Text|Label Just a joke calm down a little humor to lighten the mood Print media may be struggling to survive but couldnt they also generate money online from ads just like they would if they printed the ads Its all about money always has been so they are going to get it anyway they can free articles for the world generating ad revenue from people you never wouldve reached with print media Adapt and survive thats all|1 I know public defecation is a huge problem there its literally the diarrhea capital of Earth They are going to have major problems as well|0 I do agree with you but I also think USA has a few differences that will make things worse here1 general poor health if people Many comorbidities like hbp diabetes coronary disease are extremely common and considered normal for anyone over 402 number of hospital beds and especially icu beds per capital are much lower than sk3 access to healthcare is much more difficult here than in sk Many people will not be able to afford it or afford time off work etc making them avoid treatment until its to late or until theyve continued spreading4 we simply arent testing which increases community spread This wont effect things in a percentage way but will increase infected and death totals|0 A hospital in Shanghai claims that antiAIDS drugs are effective to the virus AntiAIDS drug doesnt cure from virus It just hibernate virus which doesnt help here does it|1 Dont be a racist|1 NYC educator here and I can say1 There was an arguement against closing because not every child has access to 3 meals a day at homeIt however was announced that if a school was closing breakfast and lunch togo bags would be available outside the building A variation of this could be implemented city wide if they wanted2 Another argument is the lack of childcare However some parents have already started pulling their children from school and many teachers are calling out as well There is now a lack of staff in schools which is presenting another problem3 Also if you shut down the schools at this point its equivalent to admitting defeat The mayor has spent most of the time reassuring us that its safe to work and go out to eat He finally just pulled the plug on some sit down restaurants but the point is he wanted nyc to function as close to normal as possible You shut down the schools you shut down a lot of the citys workforce Its a complete mess|0 You do realize that no form of entertainment is a needed service right now people are sitting home watching Netflix movies going on Reddit playing video games online All of that is provided by people that are working and not all from homeIf suddenly everyone had to stay home talking and reading books if they can even get books and getting news updates on their phones attitudes would change quickly|1 And stop eating fucking cardboard Im talking to you Mike|0 Its because youre still providing people with agency Its a lot easier to argue that being poor is your fault when youre getting a check from the government every month that allows you to pay for the vast majority if not all of your basic living and grooming needs if spent appropriately Welfare systems in contrast tend to be bureaucratic messes of complicated programs that end up being more expensive and less effective than necessary|0 I bet Washington DC will be first once we realize how fucked we are Those politicians are gonna wanna protect themselves before anyone else|0 Coronavirus is going to get its ass kicked|0 Japan Singapore and South Korea are all islands or effectively islands but youre not wrong It just feels like everyone around Taiwan is joining in on the crisis in China|1 It could yes But it is still too early to really tell But yes if the number of actual infections is being reported much lower than actual But the deaths are being accurately reported then it would mean a much lower mortality rateBut there is also some reporting that those who die from the pneumonia before being confirmed with 2019ncov are not included in the death rate|0 Site offline The site is currently not available due to technical problems Please try again later Thank you for your understandingNooooooooo|1 Yeah you should I mean shits hits the fan The last thing you want to add to your list of headache is badly prepare rice Just chop some green onions fried an egg and pour some sesame oil on it you got yourself a pretty damn decent mealRice goes well with a lot of things especially canned foodThe more decent quality rice cooker can prepare soup stew or others|1 There are good people at the CDC but the leadership has been hijacked by Trumpism Like most government agencies nowadays|1 Theres not enough research on this stuff But if you read I puts I was being sarcastic Every little bit helps But if its TRUE that it does go thru your eyes then if youre going to be cautious then go all the way and wear the goggles too Otherwise is pointless because reducing the amount of droplets of the virus that enter you dont matter if it enters you especially of youre the only one taking caution everyone else around you is already exposing you regardless Weve already seen even doctors who wore protective gear get it|1 Gotta love XKCD httpsxkcdcom705|1 You may have a hard time getting any medical professionals to take part in this and even more of a hard time getting any of them to use anything you create because the potential legal liability for any licensed professional would only start with the possible loss of their license and thats assuming everything went well|0 When did you buy in Because a banker funded cartel took over BTC and deliberately crippled it Its just a tool for exchanges and speculators to fleece the ignorant now|0 Im ready to put up the Patreonwebsitewhatever campaign for this It takes like 5 minutes to setup a free website on Squarespace or other things Just like that guys staythefuckhome campaign went viral poor choice of wording on the word viral heh maybe a campaign needs to happen for this kind of idea|1 I live my semi truck No water anywhere Ive stopped for two days Not even that high priced stuff Good luck to you|1 10 is roughly what you get from using the simplified model in the second paper and use the deaths recoveriesdeaths in the period of February after the outbreak had become geometric and before the CCP started incentivizing the lowering of official numbers|0 You know making your image of humanity a bit less volatile might benefit your mental health|1 That would be dumb to give a family 4k and a single person 1k Families wouldnt have 4x the expenses They dont have 4x the mortgage or need 4 vehicles or 4x utilitiesor even 4x the grocery budget It costs a LOT less per person to live when living with others|0 He was forced to LMAO wtf these headlines are Coronavirus|0 habits are hard to break|0 Still waiting on the lockdown Please|1 And a Great Dane|1 This is a racist policyJust in case s|0 Fuck the antivaxxhomeopathic is what only works bs|0 Lol unpaid sick leave seems as crazy as having to pay for education or healthcare What a horrible country|0 Do some research on ordering from pharmacies in Canada Please take your time and find a good one it can be done and it does not use your insurance That means it does not effect the limit your insurance will cover They require you send a prescription from your doctor to them via emailfax Also maybe speak to your endocrinologist about the way theyre writing the prescription Since its done dose per day not pens for month for a lot of people sometimes your endocrinologist can increase that dose per day and that does increase the amount of pens youre allowed to haveHope any of this helps|1 Dude yes that fucking look Tedros has is classic|1 My dads in the middle of fighting his 4th battle with cancer Im pretty scared for him|0 Now those that went on a panic buying spree will panic again and go on another buying spree A friend of mine was at her local Shopite and told me that it was already outofcontrol with panic buyers|0 How much do you take daily and what side effects does it have Can you feel a difference other than the desired effect|1 Easter Show is a big mistake Melbourne Cup is November UnisSchools being closed as needed to isolate potential spread when it happens No need to mass close schools or any of that for now what you may see is if particular regions start to get out of control there will be tighter containment and isolation measures|0 My life is actually great Nice house family great job Zero complaints Im realistic you prick|1 She is a socialist but she is right and she has my full support in everything We are a community and we need to work together|1 This stigma really needs to change in the USIt doesnt help that the government is telling people wearing a mask is not effective All because there isnt enough masks for healthcare workersI wonder how long it would take for them to backpedal|0 Well now Im terrified|0 Yep Law of small numbers|1 Room air though not pure oxygen So might be less useful right|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpwwwrainewsitdlrainewsmediaTteamdiespertimedicicinesidirettiinItaliaperemergenzaCoronavirusa1079e3e70c44ad6865f73ebb9c0f232htmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Totally agree|1 I dont know how you got to it you seem a little confused about it They are referring to this studyhttpswwwpharmaceuticaltechnologycomnewscoronavirusincubationperiod27days which is the only one to come up with 27 days for a possible incubation period All of the other studies done have concluded that the incubation period is 14 days or less 27 is the outlier|0 Your math is off Use Ohio which is where this info came from According to Dr Acton with their second case of community spread their model said they had a 1 infection rate in the state Given their population is 10 million they calculated that there are 100000 infected but not yet showing symptoms So if you take the 100000 and double it every 6 days you reach 10 million in about 6 weeks|0 Where did you see that Italy numbers might be off Ive actually been using them as my barometer of Europe and how it might spread in the US because I thought theyve been pretty aggressive with testing and transparent about the numbers infected|0 Fair enough but its absolutely rotten that theyre so beholden to that authoritarian lying Well I dont want to say or a ban will come Anyway lets hope thats what happensAlso there are some reports of longer incubation periodsAnyway somewhat tangentially I work within these circles A high percentage of the students going to Australia can barely string a sentence together And theyre far to lazy to write their own papers So Australian universities can get used to their extra money and absolutely abysmal education quality|0 Get all the world leaders together at the UN HQ for a 3 day conference and let them all cough and bark and sneeze hug and kiss each other and to finish off a group photo that would do the world a lot of good|1 I think the worrisome thing is that 42 was living in a workers dorm thats quite close quartered with many in a room and are not of the best conditions|0 When is the Canadian government going to take proactive measurements to protect us I wonder how many more community outbreaks we need to get until the government reacts There has already been a couple I hope Canada takes proactive measures instead of reactive ones and compromising many lives|1 I think sending in untrained military professionals to help nurses would be better than just letting patients fend for themselves|1 arrogance is deadly|0 Being broke gives me more anxiety tho|0 mainlander working in HK why would anyone want to be pro China after this I mean fucking really|1 This might make your anxiety worse depends on the person and stores may be out of them but you can get an inexpensive device called a pulse oximeter that will tell you if youre legit short of breath or if its all in your head Theyre sold at pharmaciesamazonagain I dont know what stock is like now and cost 2040 for a basic one You can spend a bit more for a fancier one that will transmit the readings to an app instead of just displaying themTheyre the little fingerclip things you may have had used at a doctors office They measure the amount of dissolved oxygen in your blood If it shows 95 your lungs are fine atm They can also show your heart rate which might further confirm how anxious you areAs someone who has dealt with health anxiety my whole life I can assure you it is RUTHLESS at mimicking the symptoms of whatever it is youre afraid of You also become hyperaware of your body and will notice little fluctuations you never paid attention to before One reason I like measurement devices and quantified health stuff is the cold hard numbers cut through my feelings of whats wrong with me and help break this up Be careful of checking obessively if you have OCD though otherwise it can quickly become a compulsion to check your stats constantly|1 Awe how nice of that terrorist organization to allow its cattle some extra time to deal with their extorted funds|0 Thank you I was doing the math in my head 10 times thinking huh That isnt right|1 There will be a miracle and it will go awayIts just like the fluLiberal media hoaxThe risk remains low for Americans|1 Ive seen the show Its 90 stories and dance from ancient China and theres some segments about the CCPs persecution of Falun Gong I enjoyed it|1 No I was joking The pig flu virus only infects pigs not human All it does was rising the pork prices|0 2 of 50k is 10001000 restraunts employing lets say 12 people each thats 12k 12k people lets assume they aall get min wage thats 12k72587k an hour Thats 348 million a week for however many weeks Because each of the 12 only works say 40 hours a week 87k40The ceo of Yum made 22 million in 2013 sorry most recent I could find 348m is 158 of 22m Theyre paying 15 a week of the ceos salary for that Thats not exactly chump change For perspective thats over 5 what god demands be given to the church|1 Thanks for your reply I did notice mine was worse laying down This may just be commensurate pain for the posture despite what it actually is I havent been doing self temperature checks but will be sure to do so Thanks again for sharing|1 Rudy Gobert is about to be persona non grata in Oklahoma after pulling that POS move He could have infected an entire stadium full of people Oklahoma has only confirmed 2 cases so far Thats about to get completely destroyed|0 Hahahaha so stunning so brave|1 The economists would kill me for saying this but Its time to lockdown every country No more international travel Possibly no more interstateprovincecanton travel |0 I think thats exactly right Finding the rationale for the middle ground on this is rather difficult when its been painted as such a black or white issue This post and all of the responses have helped me have a much better balance on how to handle this actually which has helped my anxiety a lot|0 By monitor I didnt mean to put him under surveillance like a criminalI mean to make sure he can be checked or get medical attention timely when neededAlso compulsory hospitalization is a legit thing if a person is evaluated to be dangerous to the society I personally have doubts about the morality in it but at the current stage of civilization its the most costeffective choice for most societies In ancient times those people were banished and left to die on their own A bit of digress that was Wish the patient in BC a swift recovery|0 Not the supply stores the businesss themselves Bobs auto painting Earls everything car repair Every garage Ive been in has at least 3 for each guy that paints They only need one but its easier to let the paint dry and scrape it off instead of washing it after every use so car colors dont get mixed|1 Thats not factual The CDC tested 77 state labs have tested thousands The state labs in Washington have tested nearly 7000 people since the pandemic began and were the first to catch the virus defying CDC orders about testing They were the first to discover the virus for being proactive thats why their numbers are high Just because the federal government is not doing their job does not mean the US as a whole is useless and many of the more progressive states are taking this quite seriously High numbers in a US state doesnt mean the state is heavily infected It means that the state cares more about their population than appearances and are taking this seriously|0 Honestly Ive given up on masks too hard to get a hold of and the washable ones I bought wont do shit Maybe reduce droplets I inhale from others Idk Im more focussed on rising out the chaos than the virus itself thats just a case of luck Im probably going to get it at some point|1 Citation on the deathsperinfections rate for the young being higher in WuhanSeems like it could be true most of the stories of healthy young people dying seemed like they came from early in the outbreak but I dont know of hard data making it clear If the data exists Id love to know about it|1 Im a natural blonde and even this shit is to much for me Tide pod eating stupid ppl are breeding bleach drinking babies I just cant even|0 West Nile virus Spanish flu ebola those racist too|0 Every state should assume it will look like NYWACA very soon because it has been spreading for a long time Lock down stay inside avoid contact 6ft with humans outside your household Dont panic but dont make it worse Wishing everyone in all states and countries the best|1 A major reason is that Iran cant get the supplies masks etc and medicines they need because of the unilateral US sanctionsUS sanctions make the banking transactions required to secure even medical supplies and humanitarian goods virtually impossiblehttpstwittercomRaniaKhalekstatus1240022463846719488httpstwittercomRaniaKhalekstatus1240022463846719488|1 I think the worry comes down to the fact that they might not be able to work while they are sick and that could cause more at risk people to die|0 Thank you for this Sub|1 CCP also have condemned every country that has closed border on them to slow the spread They really wanted it to be exported and they did it|0 Someone gave an exponential equation recently but I didnt save it It was something like 14 to Nth power where N is defined as the number of days since the outbreak started I dont remember exactly Sorry|1 I have scratchy throat and nose congestion too Doesnt feel like anything more than just a minor cold Mild cough mild fever if any Im still forced to work|0 As someone who is a broke college student who primarily lives in a lowincome household with 2 elderly people and a child who relies on takeout as their primary source of food AND doesnt have the finances to go buy two weeks of groceries and even if I did the stores are plain out of everything from meat and vegetables to cleaning supplies and milk It is almost impossible for me to stay sequestered in my house and not die of starvation and it is MOST DEFINITELY impossinle to socially isolate from my family as we all share a pretty small living space and have to make do This is fucking terrible and horrifying Someone explain to me how anyone who is living paycheck to paycheck is supposed to get a handle on this financial burden|0 Right What is this trash title A fate worse than death bankruptcy|0 Bruh he held up the evidence and fucking HEMA had to come out later and say he was lying|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 If what OP is saying is true then it should be all people right|1 Since it takes 14 days for people to be declared recovered14 days after you test negative The people recovered now are likely 2 people those who were asymptomatic meaning the virus never truly took hold of them much or those who got it extremely early likely December|0 Nice to hear some balanced rational information Unfortunately this confirms in one nice tidy package what we all suspect here on reddit from months of pouring over all the available information|1 Good newsunless you are one of the 74|1 My work is allowing WFH on a case by case basis when individuals request it but it requires manager approval No general mandate to WFH This despite the fact that a number of people in the office attended a recent tech conference where a couple attendees have now tested positive for COVID19|1 It is absolutely crazyNoone knows if this will work As it hasnt even been proven that people will get immunity from it nor get immunity without side effectsI totally agree the government is seeing this as a money opportunity yet it could back fire in their face as1 who will vote for these fuckers in 5 years time As majority of old people will die2 as I said up there Noone knows what side effects this virus will bring therefore could create more people who will rely on disability benefitsClearly not thought this through and they just dont care as long as they are fine|0 Wow absolutely brilliant I just hope busy government officials will spend the time reading all that|1 Walmart may fire you for any reason it wants in an atwill employment state but theyre still required to show good cause for the termination if they hope to deny your unemployment requestIn the event that theyve just been given your notice and then decide to fire you on the spot its a near guarantee that that alone will then qualify you for unemployment benefits because theyre basically demonstrating that theyre only firing you because theyre legally allowed to To win a denial theyd have to demonstrate that you blatantly andor repeatedly broke company policy or were doing something outright illegal Companies tend to have a hard time winning a denial if they claim they fired you for simply being bad at your job Theyd have to show that your prolonged poor performance was willful and intentional which can be pretty difficult Didnt mop Aisle 3 well enough wouldnt pass musterThis is how it is in Illinois based on the conversation I had with my caseworker at the time Other states could be different but Illinois is atwill too|0 Just read that something like 85 of cases in Wuhan got the virus from undocumented cases I think whatever the counted cases are might be 110 of the true number With counted US cases doubling every 2 days we could have far more than 25k cases by the end of the month|1 Yes we are doing better than the countries that have taken no preventative measures and because of a fluke of nature that we are an isolated geographical location we have been given a window of oppertunity Why compare yourself with the worstHave you been watching sky news|1 FREEDOM|1 Not doubting your sentiment but I think out of all the cases only 2 cant be traced to other cases Ive been thinking for a while this will spread in sporadic waves creeping and bursting in fortnightly intervals|1 It was 300 I remember getting the check from the Treasury At least thats what I got|1 yes i just googled bumble fuck jokkmokk sweden in the middle of nowhere reindeer land 10 miles from the arctic circle and the local super market has fucking food delivery services|1 For those who cant see the post I copied it in two parts in the comments below see Part 2 in another commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffa2tftestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffa2tftestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhePART 1throwaway1Dgrzqhttpswwwredditcomuserthrowaway1Dgrzq 515 points15 hours agohttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffa2tftestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhefjx5tc8edited 14 hours agolate edit I need to add a disclaimer dont go to the linked thread if you have any sort of anxiety issues that other sub is extremely grim and not supportive of mental health I apologize for the late warningEnglish translation by mcgianni on rmedicinehttpsnpredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhe NPlinked please do not participate if you are a nonmedical professionalIn one of the nonstop emails that I receive from my hospital administration on a more than daily basis there was a paragraph on how to be responsible on social media with some recommendations that we all can agree on After thinking for a long time if and what to write about whats happening here I felt that silence was not responsible I will therefore try to convey to laypeople those who are more distant from our reality what we are experiencing in Bergamo during these Covid19 pandemic days I understand the need not to panic but when the message of the danger of what is happening is not out and I still see people ignoring the recommendations and people who gather together complaining that they cannot go to the gym or play soccer tournaments I shiver I also understand the economic damage and I am also worried about that After this epidemic it will be hard to start over Still beside the fact that we are also devastating our national health system from an economic point of view I want to point out that the public health damage that is going to invest the country is more important and I find it nothing short of chilling that new quarantine areas requested by the Region has not yet been established for the municipalities of Alzano Lombardo and Nembro I would like to clarify that this is purely personal opinion I myself looked with some amazement at the reorganization of the entire hospital in the previous week when our current enemy was still in the shadows the wards slowly emptied elective activities interrupted intensive care unit freed to create as many beds as possible Containers arriving in front of the emergency room to create diversified routes and avoid infections All this rapid transformation brought in the hallways of the hospital an atmosphere of surreal silence and emptiness that we did not understand waiting for a war that had yet to begin and that many including me were not so sure would never come with such ferocity I open a parenthesis all this was done in the shadows and without publicity while several newspapers had the courage to say that private health care was not doing anything I still remember my night shift a week ago spent without any rest waiting for a call from the microbiology department I was waiting for the results of a swab taken from the first suspect case in our hospital thinking about what consequences it would have for us and the hospital If I think about it my agitation for one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified now that I have seen what is happening Well the situation is now nothing short of dramatic No other words come to mind The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night One after the other these unfortunate people come to the emergency room They have far from the complications of a flu Lets stop saying its a bad flu In my two years working in Bergamo I have learned that the people here do not come to the emergency room for no reason They did well this time too They followed all the recommendations given a week or ten days at home with a fever without going out to prevent contagion but now they cant take it anymore They dont breathe enough they need oxygen Drug therapies for this virus are few The course mainly depends on our organism We can only support it when it cant take it anymore It is mainly hoped that our body will eradicate the virus on its own lets face it Antiviral therapies are experimental on this virus and we learn its behavior day after day Staying at home until the symptoms worsen does not change the prognosis of the disease Now however that need for beds in all its drama has arrived One after another the departments that had been emptied are filling up at an impressive rate The display boards with the names of the sicks of different colors depending on the department they belong to are now all red and instead of the surgical procedure there is the diagnosis which is always the same bilateral interstitial pneumonia Now tell me which flu virus causes such a rapid tragedy Because thats the difference now I get a little technical in classical flu besides that it infects much less population over several months cases are complicated less frequently only when the virus has destroyed the protective barriers of our airways and as such it allows bacteria which normally resident in the upper airways to invade the bronchi and lungs causing a more serious disease Covid 19 causes a banal flu in many young people but in many elderly people and not only a real SARS because it invades the alveoli of the lungs directly and it infects them making them unable to perform their function The resulting respiratory failure is often serious and after a few days of hospitalization the simple oxygen that can be administered in a ward may not be enough Sorry but to me as a doctor its not reassuring that the most serious are mainly elderly people with other pathologies The elderly population is the most represented in our country and it is difficult to find someone who above 65 years of age does not take at least a pill for high blood pressure or diabetes I can also assure you that when you see young people who end up intubated in the ICU pronated or worse in ECMO a machine for the worst cases which extracts the blood reoxygenates it and returns it to the body waiting for the lungs to hopefully heal all this confidence for your young age goes away And while there are still people on social media who boast of not being afraid by ignoring the recommendations protesting that their normal lifestyle habits have temporarily halted the epidemiological disaster is taking place And there are no more surgeons urologists orthopedists we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us12See my other comment for PART 2|0 Hey Bill thanks for taking the time What do you think will happen to those losing their jobs during this crisis How will we be able to get back to normal if unemployment hits 2530|0 It was just a stupid snobby thing to say by the elites and the expertsIts not a coincidence that East Asian countries have had so much success When there is so much asymptomatic transmission its better of if we tell people to wear it not that its useless|1 This exactly they arent making masks because no one is paying them to make masks they just get them from China for much cheaper|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Target in Gilbert Arizona is like that as well Crazy|1 I woke up tonight with a very itchy throat and cough Scared I might have it Has your throat been itchy or is it different|0 Interesting they have a ticket system|1 only 1020 of infected require hospitalization|0 I have a feeling all those antivax people will very quickly forget about that meme when faced with a real situation|0 The siuation in Brazil can get pretty bad in the next few weeks I dont know how bureaucratic the process of testing is but we have hundreds of suspected cases who are not resolved My city has a suspected since Feb 26th and they still dont have the test results And I dont even know how many of the ruled out cases were actually tested since the government still believes that travelling to an infected country is a requirement to test people They keep saying we have no evidence of local transmission but if they only test people coming from abroad how are we going to find local casesAnd now this they wont consider the 4th case as an actual case just because the girl is asymptomatic We also dont have any news about the people who live with the three first people infected we dont know if they were actually tested A lot of people in Brazil rely on public healthcare and those hospital can get crowded very easily If the government only pays attention to sick people coming from Europe and Asia then the virus could be spreading in the country right now without anyone noticingOr maybe its too hot for the virus Who knows|0 How come everyone outside of china are experiencing pretty light symptoms Can it be that you develope a much worse version if its first hand contact|1 Gonna be awkward when a couple with 4 kids cant decide which one to banish|0 Its not a conspiracy theory to think Mr Pence is a religious nutjob|1 I totally agree I always keep a pallot of water bottles on hand and emergency supplies I am one less person on the road during a big storm too|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Its killed folk in their 20s already|0 Seems like a tiny number|1 CP24 News in Toronto literally just said and finally some good news the Toronto st Patricks day parade will go ahead as planneds|1 Holy shit that level of incompetence is so astounding it looks like something a character in a Leslie Nielsen movie would do|0 I want to try out for the Phoenix Suns so I can get a test|1 Im from this area my boyfriend has been showing strange symptoms for 3 days and they seem to be getting progressively worse Tender side of throat swollen lymph nodes fatigue off and on chills Hes had a horrible infection in his teeth for the past three years but weve been so focused on staying off the streets we havent been able to get the right nutrition or take care of his infection He couldnt take the pain anymore so out of fear and the need to know we went to the hospital he walked out with antibiotics no tests were done We stayed in touch the whole time him in the back myself in the waiting room The audio clip he sent of the lady next to him coughing made my heart drop They were only separated by a sheet Headlines on the TV were stating that there has been at least one case popping up a day since the seventh of this month in my county alone I heard whispers of quarantine at the front desk And right before they released my boyfriend another patient came in to register and he qualified for the mask Sat not five feet from me in the waiting room Its all happening way too fast This was in Montgomery county Pa|0 Mine told me I was just panicking After they shut down all schools in the state of West Virginia today she started to see my side|0 Youll be fine if youre not old Its not the virus you have to worry about|0 Three weeks ago people laughed when I bought a few respirators and enough food for nearly two monthsWell nobodys laughing now|1 One consolation is that this virus doesnt check your bank statement before kicking your ass rich or poor|0 I knew this was bullshit from this prior summer I was going through a breakup of my longterm relationship which was effectively a divorce My boss was wondering why I was so shorttempered at the office I calmly explained my situation to him and that at the end of the day it was my problem to deal with He told me that we offered resources that I could utilize and if I had any suicidal thoughts which I did not The next day he started putting me in situations to intentionally stress me out and then admonish me for not acting professionally All he cared about was that I wasnt going to blow my brains out in the office then it was business as usual which sucked and which is why I found a different job|0 They are calling it SARSxxx because it results in a severe acute respiratory syndrome It is a just a description of the symptoms|0 Idk about you and your government but in China at least on virus thing we trust our government Also you friend is being too dramatic lmao|1 I have a coworker who was pretty skeptical about all this at first thought everyone was overreacting Now he thinks this is where were headed It seems like many people are finally realizing how bad things might get I give it a week I dont think well make it to 2 weeks|0 Government confirmation press release 01282020 No 12 GP Download PDFhttpswwwstmgpbayerndepressedreiweiterecoronavirusfaelleinbayernzusammenhangmitdemerstenfallbayernsoutputpdfThree more coronavirus cases in Bavaria connection with the first case Bavarias Minister of Health Huml around 40 people should be tested on Wednesday as a precaution The Bavarian Ministry of Health was informed on Tuesday evening that three other people in Bavaria had been infected with the novel corona virus These patients are also employees of the company from the district of Starnberg where the first person affected is already employed This man had apparently contracted a Chinese colleague during a training session on January 21 This colleague flew back to China on January 23 On January 27 the company informed the health department of the Chinese womans illness It was decided that the three new patients should also be admitted to the Munich Clinic Schwabing where they would be medically monitored and isolated A few other contact persons are currently testing whether they are infected with the corona virus The Bavarian Ministry of Health and the State Office for Health and Food Safety LGL will report on details in a press release on Wednesday Bavarias Minister of Health Melanie Huml emphasized on Tuesday evening in Munich A total of around 40 employees of the company were identified who could be considered as close contacts Those affected should be tested on Wednesday as a precautionary measure They will also be examined by the LGLs Task Force Infectiology questioned in detail |0 My wife is a nurse in SW PA She and her coworkers have also been downplaying this She thought I was crazy when I started buying extra supplies about 6 weeks ago I think because nurses think of themselves as hardasses Please dont take that the wrong way I say that affectionatelyOver the past few weeks Ive been slowly explaining certain goingson that arent being reported by the mainstream media I was a respiratory therapist so we can have indepth discussions about medical issues She has stopped calling me crazy I can actually see worry although she will never admit itI think it is a defense mechanism She is the charge nurse and feels that she needs to keep up her bravado for her staff and at home for some reason and I feel others just think that the government is going to save them or just believe what the TV tells them to believe without digging for more information People cant see beyond hope or what they want to see That are blind to reality Im sure that is similar to your coworkers as well Unfortunately because everyone seems to be blowing this off theyre going to be blindsided when SHTF Im learning as much as I can so I can properly help not only myself but others as well Not an RT anymore but maybe extra knowledge in the local community can help|1 You would think that would be the case I mean I remember watching an episode of MASH where they were shipped primaquine instead of chloroquine on accident and I figured it was a pretty much obsolete old medication st this point Im very glad to hopefully see that I might be very wrong here and that while not a miracle cure by any means it could save a lot of lives if this holds up|1 There definitely is more of a response to the coronavirus not sure what this post is about|1 Id try it Nothing to lose at this point|1 There are many kinds of stupid and I think I qualify for a broad spectrum of them|0 Quarantine ends 1 week from today but article states We will likely see more cases in the coming days and weeks If we will see more in weeks quarantine needs to end later than the 20th Im not sure what the official incubation period is Ive read it can be up to 24 days If someone contracted the virus from this single patient in quarantine this quarantine period is not nearly long enough|0 No that is criticalTranslation for the Chinese serious is lesions across multiple lobes visible on radiograph OR respiratory rate above 30 breaths per minute OR oxygen saturation below 93 OR some other combination of symptoms that the medical team deems seriousCritical is cannot breathe without ventilator assistance OR multiple organ failure OR shock|0 Champion ultimate legendary edition|1 Youre the exact man needed to help with this stuff though Tell that to the people designing it But what I take from this is we also need a software engineer to program this thing Also upvoted due to great commentEdit Ive also noticed at my local parts store a ton of welding oxygen tanks just sitting around Could these be integrated for the oxygen flow with the correct design|1 Its a bit odd but it was also pretty weird of you to bring it up how you did|1 The issue is the expert doesnt face any real negative consequences if hes wrong but the consequences on society is that many will die The idiot is just applyingparroting known ideas from epidemiology at least from what I can tell|0 Isnt it a human right to have access to fresh water|1 Stop thinking about it as how the situation will affect you and think of you you affect the situation Thank you for saying this More people need to hear it and I hope the ones that do take it to heart|1 It was just a reply to winnie the snowflake uWinnieTheFluu who had one of my posts deleted based on his victimhood complex|0 Holy shit you people are literally hopeless|0 Why no I had no idea Maybe you could be more condescending and simplistic that might help|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose 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most worrying to me is that the number seem to be around 4200 infected with over 700 listed as seriouscritical httpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscasesI think its still far too early to have any real idea about the death rate especially if the illness follows a similar course to SARS which it seems to where one gets sick and then a bit later develops the concerning symptoms and then might battle them for a week or two more before recovering or dying|0 Can I please be approved Im Italian|1 Exactly my point Even without this disease ripping their community apart they are extremely delicate and recovering from life saving surgery Many are already not expected to fully recover and will die there or be transferred to hospice care eventually|0 No vaccine exists for SARS|0 The US President himself called it all a hoax just two days ago|0 That you happen to know aboutThe rest they have it and they are probably spreading it unknowingly bc they feel fine|1 Oh they know they dont give a dam the uppers dont at least pence is a idiot and the head of the cdc is not exactly smart and everyone below them likely can do anything without getting hellx trump trying to buy the vaccine says enough about the US governments priority|0 Hows that Everyone in the world has the same information If you decide to book a place in a pandemic then youre an idiot if you arent booking refundable rooms Im an asshole for planning No false youre an asshole for frivolously making travelPlans in a damn outbreak|0 Hes been forced to stay in rooms with scientists that are 10x smarter than him Actual knowledge got through his thick skull and he finally understands enough to be scared and realize the administrations wanton ineptitude is going to kill millions of people|0 And you said its the same as healing crystals etcThere are many factors that change how viruses spread its not just one thing You keep pretending its only your thing|1 Our pantry fed us during unexpected layoffs It is a savings account of sorts Good for you|1 Israel got one case from a Diamond Princess passenger|1 Thanks for the tip|1 honestly yes just being on top of all this all day everyday gets old|1 Add me in as well please|1 SARS 20 a flash in the panIronically the effective containment of SARS 1 was a reason for the major spread of COVID19 in the first place Instead of learning from that time it created together with fline and birdflu aswell as ebola the illusion and complacency in europe and the US that this is not goint to be a big deal and it is overhyped I think this thinking was a major factor for allowing the spread Public was super duper slow to react as well as most governments|1 Says the Drumpf supporter desperately campaigning for the cheeto president|0 This is from Milan A warning China may have lower standards for what requires ICU Be wary of trusting Chinas standards as fact|0 I read this book one time about the 70s and the Reagan era and welfare queens It said that basically Medicaid was branded to be associated with shame EBT and other benefits a more broad shamefulness and this is on purpose to discourage people for asking for it And IMO there is really a cognitive dissonance in peoples thinking about this topic and I think that is why If you ask most Americans whether they would spend more to help the poor 75 percent actually say yes but if you ask them whether they would expand welfare no way Like wha And I feel like this branding issue is part of why people arent on board with something that would be so good for us as a country|1 In what way I suppose when I say small town I speak in relation to New Orleans There are three hospitals there and they are in constant contact with New Orleans through both leisure and business There is already one case there so its not so much a fleeing to avoid the sickness situation I plan to self isolate no matter what because Im stocked on all essentials As I said down below however its more about what New Orleans may be like under quarantine|0 Id imagine so The entire point of a patent is that we came up withdesigned this idea so we have the rights to tap this market So if someone is giving them out for free why would anyone bother buying them from the people who hold the patent therefore they lose out on the market Still though if these guys get fined or jail time for this Im gonna be extremely disappointed in Italy|0 Really it demonstrates the weakness of the chinese government Effectively the government works kind of like a corporation with local offices being the local state governments while the main head office oversees all the local offices Part of the problem with their government is local government heads careers are controlled by the head office so they tried to fix the problem themselves as they didnt want blow back Many of the local bosses feared retribution which is normally what happens if they irritate the head office Add in that because the local offices had so much separation its hard for the main office in beijing to have heavy influence on those regional offices This dynamic is why things often spiraled out of control at the local level and wouldnt be fixed until it became a massive issue It is also why there is the struggle to now control the outbreak Xi Jinping has been trying to gather power and influence over all the regional offices to control things from the top down but he has been struggling to reign in all the regional powers due to the cultural that exists|0 The election results 2015 election results beg to differ The majority of Americans dont support Trump The rich certainly seem to|1 I am so done with this moron Its not about stopping it It is about slowing it down you pompous trust fund shitWhen this is over and they start tracking the outbreaks back to casually imported virus from known hotspots there will be a reckoning Last liberal government for a decade|1 Which goes to show its far more wide spread than reported due to lack of testingWashingtons cases started in an eldercare facility literally fully of the most vulnerablefatal population for this virus Im not saying we shouldnt test more or our system isnt fucked but the numbers here Washington specifically are skewed|1 Yes We have a local case of someone in their 30s in life support and all the comments in the paper are about how people didnt think it affected young people It definitely does but older people a lot more|1 I love that new Coronavirus any speedrun|1 Hopefully they dont know where you live|1 TX Houston area Fort Bend CountyHad a confirmed case here local grocery stores are still business as usual Theyre stockpiling extra bottled water Just like everywhere else every place is sold out of hand sanitizer and wipes Everything else is pretty stocked and normal Saw one person at the grocery store today wearing gloves and a maskAt work in Houston proper no one seems to be at all concerned or taking it seriously A lot of its just the flu more people die of that every year big brain takes|1 Agreed all provinces should take action|1 Sky news for sports is top tier They have that going for them|1 If you have no input ie no people or goods from outside then you would be as safe as anyone can be during your stay inside But as to the feasibility I doubt that it can be doneBest bet is to learn what you can about how it is transmitted and follow the guidelines strictly If you dont get within 6 feet or more of strangers wash your hands correctly whenever you touch anything outside and keep hands away from your eyes nose mouth etc you should be pretty safe If not then you wont even be able to stay inside as everyone will be sick that works to provide you with water electricity gas etc|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yeah I agree its nowhere near as MERS However international cases could be down to the fact that it hasnt been international for that long comparatively and the fact that ICU beds arent being overwhelmed It seems this illnesses danger isnt the fatality of it regardless of how much treatment a patient gets but how many people do become severe and critical The overwhelming of ICU beds stop patients getting the one on one care that they need|0 Heres the problem Most people only care about themselves Since the people wanting to do these things are young and healthy their risk of dying is VERY low They dont care if they are putting someone else at risk|1 they specifically meant the people brushing it off because they think it doesnt matter if the catch it and spread it aroundthe dont care I recovered mentality|0 Youre telling me I needed to see this I go from freaking out to telling myself its not as bad as it seems I hate that I have to even question in the back of my head whether this is accurate or not you know Sigh|0 You could just stay home lol|1 I think just China has really big level of air pollution so flu is hard infection there|0 Hes a party member in the way that plenty of wealthy americans are card carrying republicans or democratsYet not in the same way becausehe seems to be helping when we need it mostHonestly who gives a fuck whether it was the Chinese govt or a rogue billionaire who put people before pennies Americans are about to be jobless sick and poor all at the same time with no timeline or clear plan to end the crisis and yet theres time to criticize another country thats sourcing relief|0 prepare as it have your home ready for quarantine|1 Glad someone did this ama up|1 I take it English is not your first languageJews are from all ethnic walks hence such a variety of cuisines to found in IsraelRead this bit really carefully I never said Jewish food I said food in IsraelDid you get it that timeI live in England I dont think the food in England is good That includes English indian chinese american etc I hope you understand now it encompasses all countries cuisines within 1 countryPlease tell me you now comprehend what I said|1 Dont get me wrong but what happens if kids stay in home alone I do remember that my mom left me in the house for hours until she came home from work It where days where I would scream at the empty walls but still once my parents got home I recovered|0 Do the infrastructure and networks build themselves for free|1 We called them and got lots of guilty yeah were not coming my mum is 75 WHY DIDNT YOU CALL|0 Haha excellent idea|1 No I recalled hearing about it somewhere Maybe YouTube Someone brought it up in a discussion about the paper you were talking about with a sample size of 1Anyway I googled ace2 coronavirus race and found it Im definitely not in the field and dont know the researchers Its not published so who knows|1 We have everything we need but no idea when my son will stop school or wife would quit working I assume first cases of spread in our city So right now its kind of hoping we dont quit our daily routine too soon but also dont want to risk catching it|0 This was cute Im so sorry for all of them in that situation but Im glad everyone here could have a laugh |1 misleading title they only mean within Korea itself|0 Thought stats are as of 9 am No reason to keep people waiting|0 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 As the taiwan government noticed the unknown disease were spreading in Wuhan they took the action immediately even that period was Tsais second presidency election coming in 11 Jan The government catched the gold timeThe SARS outbreak led 73 ppl died in 2003 no countries would help Taiwan including evil WHO banned Taiwan from disease and virus info network just because of China pressureIts really tragic and sad news Taiwan learned a lot and continuously improve the health and medical policies restructuring the CCD and put CCD on top of administration offices The effective response government is the second reason why Taiwan does such awesome job around the world because they have been preparing this battle for 17 years Taiwan knows only they can help themselves and no one would help during the outbreak They are the international orphans the world health system leave them behind Quoted from Vice President JenRen Chen he mentioned in 2003 SARS outbreak only USA and Japan shared the SARS virus and assist to define the virus samples However thats all the help Taiwan got from the worldRef httpswwwsankeicomsmpworldnews200226wor2002260026s1htmlfbclidIwAR3Z7VGwqSscr2PQwM9yIGivLaNYQCnc3eEOygMeOG9f9FT2zRF0RWWicM|0 If only this attitude could continue toward the climate crisis Everyone just doing their small part is all it takes|0 I just checked my medicine cupboard today According to the french government Ibruprofen is bad for treating this virus so we should stick to Paracetamol disclaimer not a doctor so dont trust me on that I normally dont use paracetamol but thought I had a box in my medicine bag Went through it checked the date and its out of date By 10 years o|0 my husband insists this is a fake thing made up by the democrats to make trump look bad He works for Fed Ex and is taking ZERO ZERO precautions No hand santizer no extra washing on handshonestly it takes an act of God to get him to wash them at all nothing Because its NOT REALno one he knows has it Yes i honestly sort of wish his chemo mom or niece with one kidney would get it so he could actually learn something|1 RIP plane and airport The Cambodian PM was shaking hands with those disembarking ffs what a shit show|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 well that sounds shit then|0 I second this post thank you all|1 How old is your son Kids are hardly even affected by this so its a little too morbid to make that big of an assumption|0 Yes haha they have just updated the risk status to pop the kettle on|1 Ok but you literally cant buy them in London so what do you want people to do|1 What sounds like Paris|1 Any country that bites the bullet and does this will come out of it before anyone else I wouldnt be surprised that Italy will come out of this before most other European countries even hitting their peak|0 Amazon uses so many terrible third party sellers that they probably had to nix that option to avoid all the complaints I seriously go out of my way now to avoid using them for everything I definitely wouldnt trust them with hand sanitizer There is most assuredly someone selling counterfeit hand sanitizer bottles for massive profit on Amazon by now|1 Im sure it was once it needed to be sung It must be getting worse Itll be a full aria by the weekend|0 its sarcasm and I like it|1 Your taxes are already wasted to the tune of trillions that dont benefit anyone but a select few|0 They absolutely are going to invest in a cure Their own lives depend on it But weve already been well informed that is over a year away for a vaccine Maybe some other miracle shows upcrazier things have happened But going with what we do know this is bad The other half of this equation is the depression we are entering Basically a far worse depression than the last one with a pandemic to boot|0 The whole worlds population dies except the few babies born immune to the virusI can see a new movie|1 Annndddd Im in OKC Obligatory this is hitting home and it seems way more serious now|0 Does this mean that telegram and signal and various other apps designed for security will be worthless What happens if the app devs dont comply Does this effect people outside of the USA eg someone messaging a user on America from Australia etc|0 Thats very creative for these young people|1 Well Im planning to go to Miami in May Maybe Ill skip that one|0 wear masksNo this is irresponsible Masks are becoming a luxury item for the people who need it most healthcare workers Just stay home and if you have to go out maintain proper social distancing it will be just as effective as a mask Healthcare workers need these masks way more than we do and we need to make sure supply goes to them|1 They cant pretend anyone with severe symptoms are infected since the infected will be in quarantine Ward with specialized ppe vs regular patients So thats why they need to test ppl with severe symptoms who will benefit from hospital care Others with mildmoderate symptoms dont benefit from the test other than satisfying curiosity and urge to know but arent going to be hospitalized anyways Those should stay in self isolation as if they are infected but not takeup very limited resources including testing|0 Same It feels good to be ready when everyone else are losing their mind|1 Good call amigo Were going to need to beef ours up as well to handle the traffic|1 Ah well thats good|1 One battle at a time Fight for life now we will make money tomorrow|0 The optional quarantine doesnt help either|0 My response was to the deleted response above everything thing ends up being about China for that guy No doubt China has caused the world a great deal of harm through their fucked up eating practices|0 I use monitor cleaner fluid works fine apparentlyIf you want to find unrestricted 95 alcohol get those cheap perfume bottles that call themselves toilet water They are usually 95 alcohol content|1 They wouldnt have life any other way Every breath is a gift|1 The paper claims that 70 of those studied also including cases outside of China were the L variant Wuhan had an estimated 96 L variant so it seems to have lowered somewhat but is still the most prevalent|0 One study confirmation Definitely a concern but not definitive Its not yet thought to be a major driver of spread according to other sources BUT I can see why this isnt goodThe study was mysterious redacted I can only imagine that major entities dont want to immediately blow the whistle on airborne routes of transmission given the shortage of masks and other PPE for healthcare workers They dont want people running out and hoarding masks when they cant even provide for their own employeesTheories aside I never said masks are a bad idea Just that people can misuse them and then risk it becoming a waste of a mask that could have gone to a healthcare worker|0 Israel is a lot smarter than WHO|1 Hows the friend doing|1 Not to take away from this man but there are many foreign doctors working in Hubei hospitals before this epidemic started Ive seen from Chinese social media almost all of them stayed as well and many also contracted the virus as result|1 Taiwan smelled CCPs bullshit and restricted travel from China very early on sparing them this calamity despite being so close to China Goes to show not being a WHO member has its benefits|0 Furthermore how the public will react Just save yourself WGAF|1 I lowkey think I haverecovering from itI had a lowgrade fever for over 3 days with chills and sweats and sore throatdry cough that got worse day by day to the point I felt constant burning in throat and upper chest when breathing It got to the point it hurt so much to breathe I had to go to the ICU During all these Ive had no congestion or sneezingDR didnt test me just said I had virus and to take ibuprofenSlowly Im getting better but I work in the Beaverton area and live on the opposite side of town|0 That would sure help now wouldnt Thats my point We were on our way anyway The Pandemic is just speeding up the process Money cant stop a Pandemic|1 Same As dark as things seem right now Im starting to feel relieved and lucky that I live here|1 Id imagine because thats the age where they start to see an increase in complications from the virus and seems to grow exponentially for people in their 50s 60s 70s etc|1 I agree I was a young mom working two jobs I didnt know anything about it until years later|1 What are the issuesCare is all free though|1 The FDA actually has a recommended process and has made the info publicly available Policy for Temporary Compounding of Certain AlcoholBased Hand Sanitizer Products During the Public Health Emergency MARCH 2020httpswwwfdagovregulatoryinformationsearchfdaguidancedocumentspolicytemporarycompoundingcertainalcoholbasedhandsanitizerproductsduringpublichealth Direct link to the document PDF herehttpswwwfdagovmedia136118downloadThat is intended for pharmacies not distilleries but if distilleries are going to do this it seems smart for them to follow the same process As it turns out I know someone who is involved with a distillery doing this and as I understand it they are planning on using this processIf distilleries do follow the above process then in addition to what you said they will also Use denatured alcohol Which will of course make it undrinkable I dont know if distilleries can easily add denaturants themselves But I do know that the distiller I know has said the product will be undrinkable Add a small amount of hydrogen peroxide|1 I apologize for the tone My wife mom work in Kirkland|1 So he is okay and we should panic|0 I agree that there must still be ICU beds The data would show a spike above the exponential That hasnt happened Today was a very nice drop in number of deaths compared to yesterday Hopefully its not an outlier|1 Thank you you chose one of my favorite books ever I read it so many times I can recite it like a poem Maybe its time to deep dive into Lovecraft|1 Florida is in its dry season Although it reachesthe 80s some days its still cool enough to spread in the evening|1 is strain and transmission chain the same thing|0 Hey no one our age is dying from this Seriously no one under 50 has died in Italy I havent seen any young people dying anywhere except for those young doctors in China I personally believe there is some fishy stuff going on in China like maybe those doctors knew too much about something I mean a building collapsed there today No way that was on accident Or those were false reports Watch the news for young people dying Unless we start seeing cases of that Im not too worried and neither should you be Pregnant people arent even more serious with this disease from the stats theyve found so far This disease is very strange and I think were not being told the whole truth on where it came from But yeah younger people under 30 seem to be immune|0 Outside of China its very different which is quite interesting|1 Thank you|1 My boomer mom believes that crap|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 I actually wrote an article about the numbers I think its so interesting how the results look with China vs rest of worldhttpswwwgreysheepmdcom2020022019ncovconfirmedcasesinchinahtml Done|1 Is this girl on drugs All she wants is her socialist fever dreams to be realized This is why ideologues are dangerous they will exploit such a crisis over a vulnerable population to advance their goals Starting to think she is actually a psychopath|0 Wtf|0 Im in the Seattle area and the sources Im trusting the most are my local county and state health departments the University of Washington research center and scientists reports and statements from the health care facilities employers and individual people with direct experience with a confirmed case I am not believing the federal government or the CDC under current leadership This is strange for me because up until lately Ive had a very good general opinion of the CDC but they appear to have been rendered incapacitated now I have not formulated an opinion of WHO yet but this does look like its heading for pandemic to me based on the federallevel waitandseewhathappens response in the US|1 Thank you for easing my concerns greatly and allowing me to return fo being reasonable I appreciate it very much|1 There are many drugs being tested now How can we test these drugs if we arent sure if the patient is SARSCoV2 positive This alone should be a reason to test China claims that chloroquine makes a difference People should have the right to know and not hear its a viral pneumonia wait it out|1 I dont understand why they want to test the people who likely have it Shouldnt it be the other way Test people who maybe have it|1 I dont think Trump listens to anyone and I dont think that will change even if the country was burning down around him Dr Fauci is really the only person from the press conferences I care to listen to and heed the advice of|1 Same Cincinnati too and I didnt vote for Dewine but Im so happy with what hes done with this epidemic|1 We should investigate the antigens of her breastfeeding mechanism what if there is a chance that the milk contains antigens from her infected system Like all other onfections moms prevent child getting sick|0 Then God will protect him|1 Yep|1 Im not sure why I feel perfectly safe there implies its unreasonable to feel otherwise the obvious message he was trying to send People die every day because they feel perfectly safe driving without seatbelts and even though most days they are right along comes the day they arent andIts foolish to to take those risks|1 There are levels between no protection and full protection|0 They have access to references and they can get better informed When people have the choice of free material that is of highly dubious quality and very expensive scientific articles then its clear what will get read|1 I do not doubt it but I want to see more information This is a pretty quick shot on extremely complex data shooting from the hip But I do know Washington State has some of the best people gunslingers in the country ranging from their Health Officer on down and into King County|1 No I mean other countries dont have a lot of trade and investment with China This whole Iran outbreak is really odd What caused it to blow up there and not India Thailand Cambodia Vietnam Indonesia the African continent|0 Ofc course youre a racist Because this sub was acting the same way in regards to Chinese and most of us are white May God help your diseased soul bc theres no cure for it|0 Its the other dangerously comorbid condition rampant in human society Stupidity and denial|0 There are drive through testing kiosks in South Korea I think that is a good idea Medical staff at the testing centers should have the highest priority for PPE because they are at the most riskWHO has test kits available they just brought a ton to Iran If we do not have enough ask for them from the WHO China just donated a bunch to both Iran and Japan so China must have some spare capacity as well Singapore is also selling test kits thats also an optionThe newer test kits from China have a turn around time of 45 minutes The older tests have turn around time of 47 hours The Singapore kit have accuracy of 99 There are plenty of choicesIdeally everyone at high risk should be tested every weekTesting should be a higher priority than anything else even higher than treatment Testing does not require the same high level of skill as ICU so you can use medical students or even trained volunteers You just need to be able to swab the nose correctly deeply enoughIf we assume each person dedicated to testing can test 1 person every 5 minutes and works 8 hours per day That is 96 tests per day Assuming a 1 infection rate in the high risk population thats an average of 1 detection per day per tester With an R0 of 3 conservative estimate some estimates are as high as 66 this tester just prevented 3 additional people from getting infected or caught some of those infected early through contact tracing By the time any of these cases make it to the hospitalization stage the ratio of medical staff to patient will be far less favorable It takes whole team of doctors and nurses to man ICUs and the skill level required will be far higherEarly detection will economize far more medical man power than it consumes For each average detected individual you prevent 3 further infections and with an average 20 severe critical rate and 6 weeks in the hospital for the average severalcritical patient you are saving an average of 84 days in the ICU for each patient detected early and given treatment to prevent progression to severe caseSo if a tester detects an average of 1 positive case per day he is saving an average of 84 mandays of hospital stay How much ICU qualified medical man power will be required to provide ICU care for 84 mandays of hospital care compared to that 1 tester who does not need to be ICU qualified|1 I still have to buy fresh produce every week because I dont like eating canned and frozen vegetables When the masses come to raid the store Ill stay home but for now Im going out once a week to get veggies|0 Just wait till people start bring their guns to buy and aquire supplies That should be exciting|1 But people will lose their daycare ugh i hate those people|0 This is inaccurate The Norwegian Labour party which is currently in opposition suggested this It is not an official policy yet|1 Playing God is a good podcast about triage during disasters|1 I thought we were going into delay phase today|0 Honestly you should Even if you just play passively like me spinning stops a few raids a week and some daily Go Battle League its a pleasant enough way to pass some time and get that hit of oxytocin without much investment|1 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Did you forget to add the s|0 Im no idiot just a nobody really but Hungry people dont stay hungry long They either eat or they die That said I wouldnt steal anybodys food but I sure as hell wont be stolen from My guns guarantee it|0 something something freedom something something personal responsibility|1 Ilu|1 Better than 99 of leadership elsewhere butprice of test is car ownership|1 No Im asking them to know who theyre voting for and why Thats the responsibility of citizens in a democracy|0 Pediatrician herethank you this give me some sort of relief I see about 40 newborns a month I would absolutely be devasted if one of them ended up getting this disease|1 No worry Almost every person medicated for Crohn takes immuno suppressors So it makes me more vulnerable because I am basically with less defence than other people Also crohn is an immune system based illness For example I had 3 times the number of white cells that normal people have before going into treatment That makes for a chaotic body reaction I suppose|0 Trump says its nothing He said its just the flu|0 My weekend plans include writing my local govmnt officials to request increased testing locating some canned goods |1 This is how you kickstart the black market BTW for a proper P3 level safety you need to fully cover your whole face The measures required for being properly safe are pretty cumbersome Youd have to disinfect your surfaces every time before removing the protection|1 Try your local hardware stores too I was able to find some at Ace hardware here on oregon where everywhere else was bone dry Go into the stores that are off the beaten path|0 Anyone knows how cardiac safe chloroquine isI know that malarias drugs like quinine and derivate are notorious to cause ECG abnormalties via QTc prolongation Worsening as you get older and If you are a female females have naturally a longer QTc interval Im worried in elderly patient receiving chloroquine treatment from a cardiac output|0 Not shit I had a Karen get hostile with me at a grocery store the other day for wearing a mask I work in and around construction sites PPEs work If masks can protect me and my coworkers from asbestos and dangerous aerosols they can protect people from droplet transmitted viruses The whole crusade against buying masks is as irresponsible as telling the public that COVID19 is like the flu If supply is an issue increase supply Every American should have a mask by now 3M is just down the road from me here in Minneapolis These folk should be burning the midnight oil for national security sakes Hopefully after this we will have learned a thing or two about putting all our supply chain eggs in the China basket|1 If we all practiced it but we are already seeing lowlevel defiance of orders which will only get drastically worse Two days after my community suspended activities like pickleball some idiot neighbors set up a pickleball court on a public street They think they are clever and the rest of us are dumb|0 70 plus accounts for 85 plus of the deaths in the dataThis is distorted by triage In Milan no one over 60 receives treatment to reserve equipment for someone younger more likely to survive and more valuable to society|0 I assume that tickets will be refunded if it is cancelled|0 Youre still allowed to like it Its just one store one person|1 Im coming to terms with most people not realising the virus is airborne Because wash your hands has been repeated so much most people now think that is it thats all you gotta do for everything to be okay to avoid the virus is just wash your handsGet up close and talk to people as usual Congregate with people as usual no need to worry about the air you are breathing at all|0 I remember BEFORE 911 they had large signs that you dont even think of JOKING about a bomb on a planeThis should be treated the same way|0 OklahomaTulsaThe usual itemsTPPaper towels sanitizers soaps are all pretty much wiped outI went to both Walmart and sprouts yesterday afternoon and food is starting to become scarceNo chicken at either store no eggs at Walmart canned goods beginning to thin out majorly all the ramen is gone lol veggies like onions and potatoes are dwindling Baby wipes are gone diapers are thinning out still plenty of formula Meds like Tylenol Advil and ibuprofen are pretty much all gone as wellGov declared a state of emergency for all of OklahomaIm going into work tomorrow morning to discuss our plans to work from home for the next week then theyre sending us homeGas is 169gal|1 But thankfully the Italians have a universal health service When Grandma is coughing up a lung while shes sitting on a bench outside the emergency room at least shell know her family wont be getting a bill after shes gone|1 Ugh No advice but Im thinking of you and your daughter To have to make decisions like this is terrible But most likely she will end up fine I understand not wanting to travel and risking exposure|0 If an employer is intentionally getting you sick Im sure theres some legal action that can be taken|0 I get to do what I always do but replace the guilt with pride|1 Italys numbers make perfect sense We are fucked Masks work|0 I mean most content producers either explode or stagnate after 100k so well see|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Thank you so much for helping out|1 I understand the eagerness of people to find a solution But it is very unlikely that there is a unified single common solution for every country whether the solution is using masks taking more tests or carrying out lockdowns So I would not agree these simple talks and hope every governments can think of the most suitable approaches for their countries to save peoples livesBut of course happy birthday Boris and happy birthday again|1 This article is a metaanalysis Among papers used for the study two were investigating methods for the public to prevent agains SARS infection Daily wearing masks could prevent fromgetting SARS|1 Ive had friends just saying they hope they get it now because predictions say 13 or 12 of the US will get it Get it and get it over with they say I think they they its just an average cold and thats it|1 That and they are lying about the numbers|0 Keep calm and carry on|1 Hi there and thank you for your input I very much doubt Italy and Iran are the only countries outside of China where this has been flying and reproducing under the radar likely we are all in the same boat and the testing just hasnt been done on the right peopleThankfully for yourself you are young resilient and aware Stay safe little dude x|1 Lol I was on the rez for 8 years Your assumptions are not making you look intelligent They pay 25 for orange juice because thats the price and if they want it they pay for it The northern shippinggrocery company takes advantage of them They are not forced to live on the rez they can leave the community at any point and be a member of functioning society but if they do they dont get that sweet gov cheddar and will have to work and pay for things on there own So its easier to stay on the rez Again please educate yourself|1 DMATDisaster Medical Assistance TeamNo wonder why one of DMAT member nurse from Wakayama pref got infectedAnd tomorrow Japanese bureaucrats are going to release those people whose CPR was negative a few days ago Who knows they got infected after the test under this sloppy circumstances|0 What I think is important is to be rationalI think Im rational I thought it was no big deal initially and am changing my mind as the data comes in The data does make me concerned and optimistic cases will begin declining or be less severe sooner rather than laterI dont understand what you mean This thing hasnt even started in China properly Were still in the early stages of a pandemic except practice proper hygieneYou can do a lot more but it will start getting expensive quick|0 Its good but they dont include Wales Scotland or Northern Ireland case by region in an easy to read format for mobileI appreciate that Thank you|1 Healthy people still occasionally cough and sneeze Sharing of fooddrinks is a likely culprit especially in China where people use their salivacovered chopsticks to grab more food from the common plates in the middle of the table People rubbing their mouthsnoseseyes and shaking hands Hugging and breathing real close to the other persons face|1 She says she didnt do what shes accused of Probably accidentally licked her fingers and called herself out on it TSA agent overreacted As someone whos been yelled at by a very whiny TSA agent in the past I believe the woman|0 Even if its only dangerous to old people Ill have a moral duty to quit my job as a bartender if Im infected even asymptotically I love making cocktails but not if its going to kill one of our retired customers|0 Just visit the links the OP cited make sure you use VPN if you are from Turkey and you will get the big picture about lying|0 Two in France and the US as well as one in Taiwan|1 The virus is the least likely to harm your child do not worry too much about thatI am not sure where you are If the spread is already very fast in your country you should inquire early about if the obstetrics department will be influenced when medical service get overwhelmed|0 What There are many reasons that can explain halting testing at Walgreens such as limited supply of testing kits so they are giving the test kits to large labs you just have to order from the big diagnostic labs It doesnt mean CDC given up on COVID|1 Yes most here seem to be under the assumption that you go to a hospital and they would obviously find out why you were sick There could be 100 or 1000 flu deaths already in a country like the USA and nobody would have a second though about it They say its something give you some pills and send you on your way Im not saying those 18 people had the virus but it told me that when 18 people do have it they are going to be spreading it far and wide because it was near impossible to be tested unless you spent time in 1 pin point on a map|0 The problem the UK has is the government has been cutting beds and real terms funding from the NHS for the last 10 years Under normal winter pressures currently they struggle to have enough beds let alone with this its the policies of this government coming home to roost|0 It sounds brutal but somehow I gave you kudo IDK what happened |0 Really What were they like Why were they there Were they upper class people This is so interesting to me I thought they werent really allowed to move around freely|1 Yes we get it you reply to every comment with You can stop now|1 These people are bored and venting frustration This is not the sound of hell The really suffering sick dont have the energy or breath to scream and yell|0 Did they return this info to patients It reads like the samples were still deidentifiedThe samples are deidentified normally but this persons medical provider did track them down 5 min after he stepped onto his high school campus he was called awayIf she used her for research purposes only reagentslab and just reported her findings to public health officials not patients then I think she avoids the issue you pointed outCDC doesnt see it this way As far as the CDC was concerned there had been no positive test to report Of course any lab that tests samples for actual patient diagnostic purposes should be certified for that task But that is different from raw capabilityAgree But when were talking about a qPCR against nCOV genes with CDC primers it doesnt really matter who clicks start Any biology lab could do this test with as much or more rigor as CDC Not saying abolish CLIA but what happened here should be allowed to happen and isnt|1 One is in a Salt Lake hospital in isolation I heard that his wife who recovered came home to death threats in St George People can be awful|0 I visited seoul and yes thats the attitude And I was stripped of my mask Okay To be fair I wasnt wearing a mask and I was in seoul years ago|1 All they told me was please dont post about it on Facebook WTF|0 Dont feel sorry for 1940 Thats what happens when you colonise and mass rape a continent|0 With COVID 80 have mild symptoms 15 severe requiring hospitalization 5 need ICU care Of that 5 4 recover and 1 die If we run out of ICU space or resources that 4 also die And many of the 15 have far more serious longterm problems|0 No hard feelings but is my comment actually that hard to read comprehend|0 They struggle to make ONE test|0 hahaha I did warn it was a rant Okay abridged 1 The strategy will always look bad because it anticipates thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands of UK deaths People are bound to be angry2 Hiding behind science when scientific evidence is often conflicting when the situation is evolving and when you are ultimately making political judgements and decisions based on scientific evidence as politicians do with climate change for example is cowardly and dishonest3 For several reasons I think the government deserves the flak its getting at the moment 4 First delay still serves a purpose when were learning more about the virus in terms of fatality rate and treatments5 Second the argument seems to be that people will get bored of lockdown so we cant start it yet I think maybe when lots of people are dying of coronavirus people are less likely to violate quarantine not more 6 Third if the aim is to delay this thing so we can handle it better it would be nice to see us build up some capacity Its been clear to experts for many weeks that this was likely to lead to Wuhantype situations in the UK So why arent temporary hospitals being built infrastructure made PPE handed out noone had any in a major London hospital where I donated mine earlier this week etc This should be a wartime mobilisation effort and I dont see that yet|0 I dont buy this story one bit Border guards dont just look at your handwritten declaration card and waive you through They also need to match the info scanned from your passport which includes flight details Source I watch way too much Border Security|1 but think about the booming business of alternative suppliers especially in places like Taiwan Of course there will also be suppliers starting up in the US as well as a result|1 I read on the study of the virus that some lose automatic breathing and they are scared to sleep|0 You might see Dotys or Mollys or PTs being holdouts but these mega corporations have the optics to deal with Once the first one goes then you dont want to be that casino thats still open The wrath youll incur The little guys might be defiant hey cmon in The waters fine To make that extra buck or just be in denial This is a really tough situation for any business Especially the small ones Closing means our economic engine grinds to a halt and many lose their jobs And maybe a Corp will do the right thing and pay while in leave but little guys wont have that ability The real question is will these guys pay more than 2 weeks I think the 2 week thing is their way of wait and see Start with two weeks and reevaluate Considering the Nevada has practically done zero testing I think the problem will get worse if testing comes here And I mean robust testing That 2 weeks might be just a dream|0 Im tired of that word Panicking The ones saying it to name and point whichever action is taken against the spreadingBut us here are knowing whos gonna panick For real At least ive made my mother and my gf aware of the essentiel My father is convince nothing bad can happen but i dont feel awkward or ridicule with him But coworkers friends ppl at Bar Billard Regi or at grocery Fuck Most dont tell me im fucked up or panicking or ill But i read them fast and easy by the obvious look they give meWhen Costco started desinfecting when i started wearing gloves washing my hands at least 3 times longer then whoever surronding me or when i use lysol and etc Panic Fuck it|0 Thanks friend|1 Nothing to stop people isolating themselves if they wish But when the risk becomes significant your risk of getting infected for now is still very low but that will change in weeks people will be told And theyll have to maintain that isolation for weeks or months which is really tough to do|0 I meant that as of now there is no confirmation|0 This comment is pleasing to look at|1 Andrew yang is like wtf guys this was literally my thing|0 In a typical March there are 275000 people flying between Italy and the USA 760000 to Japan If this is as easily spread as they claim tons of people would have it through secondary and tertiary infectionhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200306londonheathrowbaggagehandlerstestpositiveforvirus|1 Our president feels this will all go away in April when it gets warmer so I cant say Im surprised in the least|1 As of today its stopped service until the end of April source httpswwwclippervacationscomcoronavirusupdate|0 Bold Move Colton|1 It just means that other regionscountries will be affected even worse once the virus starts spreading significantly thereUnless measures taken outside of the health care system like lockdown cancel schools uni events prevent significant spread|1 Dump his ass girl he probably goes out to cheat on you|0 Im also Australian I dont know people who dont do this It is common courtesy surely|1 Follows exponential growth almost perfectly global infection coefficient is R 115 7500x1158625|1 At first he was really inactive and downplaying but over the last week something clicked an he has been taking it seriously|0 world USA wtf please fix|0 Coronation at birth quite an achievementSeems like our youngsters will esstablish the immunity pretty easily which is a good thing|1 Me too My parents and my husbands parents are all high risk for various reasons At least I dont have to worry too much for my young children|1 Doable I couldnt afford that People over here dont call the ambulance so it isnt taken away from someone who needs it more Which is being British AF I cant believe the price I wouldnt want an ambulance or any kind of healthcare if I had to pay those prices|0 Well at least theres some progress Looks like shes no longer believes Covid is just fake news and doesnt exist|1 Do you have any idea how much trouble it is to actually evict someone Its one thing to serve a notice its another to legally be able to take all your stuff and put it on the street Think of it as the Trump modus operandi If you dont voluntarily move they have to get a court order to allow eviction That means filing notice legal proof of notice ruling eviction judgement and removal Most landlords know this can easily be a 3 month process If you as a tenant dig your heels in you can certainly string it out quite a ways|0 Yeah Ive been so confused Admittedly I do not know much about molecular biology and the practical costs of pcr stuff but I used to do it in undergrad and I dont think they wouldve let us play with expensive shit The genes are open source ORF regions are published with a few other target genes as well whats the rate limiting step Lmk if you have any idea|0 Thats not true anymore People go to other countries unlike before and its not always because of cost|0 I would love to see this over here though I wonder how the logistics would work Would definitely help allay some fears|1 Its not all about being afraidbut being prepared for the worst Im in ireland myself living with my parents My dad is working from home and today bought some extra seeds for growing various veg We dont know how long things will be bad fornor how bad they will get For this reason he made the decision to increase the amount of stuff hes growing We already grow some bits of food every year anyway so hes just increasing that And if we find that all Goes back to normal and we have a surplus of food we will do what we always do pass it around to friends and family for freeOne of the things we will be growing is tomatoes This is something very versatile and can be grown in a container You can use them for salads sauces or put them on some bread and make bruschetta for example Reminding people that growing their own food just in case things do totally to shit isnt a bad thing Many people also find it rewarding and relaxing to grow thingsBtw Im lurking here as Im part english with english family and one of my best friends lives in the south|1 Exactly this Much better than when the US bailed out the banks in 08 and they went straight away to writing big bonus checks for their management|1 Thankfully I stocked up Thursday and am good for now in the event it goes down Positive vibes all and lets get thru this safe as we can|1 What about it Youre asking why old people are dying from a flu Because old people have impaired immune systems They should always avoid flus and get their shots This ones just harder to avoid because its more contagious and theres no shot available yet Doesnt make the virus itself any deadlier than a regular flu|0 Jesus christ they look utterly miserable This is a dreadful virus even if you survive it|0 I guess Im talking over my pay grade I agree that a Virus isnt a disease as it floats in the air But doesnt it cause disease in this case|1 Its not clear if the viral RNA is live after symptoms from the abstract|0 Yes exactly Some people act very irrationally in response to seeing someone wearing a mask which I dont understand You would think they would be grateful you are trying to protect yourself and them|1 I think a fair comparison is to how this was picked up in the first case was Chinas discovery of it in Wuhan in the beginning There was a cluster of unusual pneumonia with unknown cause They realized that this meant there could be an outbreak of something unusual I imagine now that its a know thing spreading globally hospitals are on the lookout as well as with the standard surveillance in place|1 Lets see what Amazon does |1 I hate politicalizatonBegins by politicalizingOk bud Its amazing how the economy Trump inherited reverted its side and stabilized as soon as he won the Republican convention said all the things the economy wanted to hear then boomed following his election Its amazing that the Fed kept rates are near zero for all of Obamas term that saw zero upward trend even after the collapse he actually did inherit and only began raising them after Trump was elected And amazing that someone who has meddled constantly in the economy with tariffs and regulatory reforms managed to do nothing apparently in your view to an economy that in your estimation would have done the same regardless under Hillary Stein or anyone reallyOk bud|1 Yeah even Trump doesnt buy that BS He is scrambling to find a way to prop things up|1 I mean if youre in the US or any western country essentially youre more likely to be infected by your fellow westerners at this point since the initial wave of Chinese travelers have already hit long ago|0 AndJapan is a rich country A rich country that wants to run the Olympics and loves not losing face So itd be about time to tackle this properly|1 Well based my first hand experience here in Australia I can tell you people still panic whenever they see masks I feel pressured to not to wear one at work despite the recent outbreakSo how free is western world I wonder I guess it just shows human nature does not have nationalities we judgefear those who do not behave the same as we do|1 Excellent advice this post needs to be pinned|1 TrillionsThe Fed just announced theyre pumping 15 Trillion into the economy to help mitigate already Freezing everything like that would be a monumental amount|1 Hahaha I lold|1 That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach Huxley|1 This There are more intelligent people who would snatch up the discount from these greedy giants|1 The other problem is if these markets are illegal they will still happen Just illegally and probably with even worse conditions|0 He sent up his Tesla its worth a shot|1 Think for myself Im not worried about being able to stock up on certain stuff in the next few days Im worried about the fact that this shit could very likely affect my family and friends|1 People have alrdy been repatriatedpenalised for not adhering to the LOA then at least they would not be free to roam and infect othersDo you understand your own contradiction|0 No one buying those again then|0 Mind that you are also saying that international committees that hate china are lyingalso httpsenwikipediaorgwikiMisinformationrelatedtothe2019E2809320WuhancoronavirusoutbreakhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMisinformationrelatedtothe2019E2809320Wuhancoronavirusoutbreak|0 I only have one source bookmarked httpsfilessphhkuhkdownloadwuhanexportationpreprintpdf page 2The others I sadly cant find anymore I didnt keep proper record of the Chinese sources I used with translate earlier in the outbreak and impossible for me to google them or find them in my browsing historyThe official sources eg BNO uses but which are also used by the WHO etc are doing daily reports like this httpwjwhubeigovcnfbjddtyw202002t202002082021418shtmlAt least with googletranslate this still says On February 7 2020 from 0400 to 2400 2841 new cases of pneumonia caused by new coronavirus infection were added in Hubei Province including 1985 in Wuhan it would be nice if somebody who can read Chinese can confirm that the translation is correct|1 I dont understand the problem at all Is there some cultural stigma against people wearing masks in the West Like youre weak or diseased and should be shunned|1 American in Italy here There were rumblings yesterday and today that the most affected regions would put this in effect and then it became clear that all new measures are going to be enforced nationally I think the mass exodus from Milan over the weekend really drove the point home that its difficult to impose regional restrictions in a country like this because everyone will just try to avoid themWhile there will likely still be some furbetti out there tomorrow people are really scared now Its pretty crazy to think that we have to get through 3 more weeks of this still but hopefully well be able to enjoy a healthy summer at least as a result|1 China did slow it Thats why new daily cases in other countries are exceeding new daily cases in China We wont stop it but we absolutely can slow it and flatten the peak load on the healthcare system possibly reducing the number of deaths Social distancing works If there are fewer people in public there are fewer opportunities for spread and its slowed People who can work from home and pull their kids from school can have an effect and absolutely should do so for the sake of the most vulnerable Its extremely irresponsible to say we cant slow it because someone who reads that and believes you wont take the steps that can help slow it|1 Youd be hard pressed to find that answer ARBs can reduce blood pressure which isnt good news if you are already sick and your bodys overwhelming reaction results in your blood pressure dropping further People who are sick enough to get hospitalised or end up in intensive care are likely to have low blood pressure Giving them medications to attempt to control viral load but have a known effect of causing low blood pressure is likely to cause more damage than good|0 Please dont drink bleach or any type of cleaning fluid Ive drank Windex before and I do not recommend it I cant even imagine how much worse bleach is|0 Good tracking is invaluable to epidemiology and that cant exist without tests|1 This proverb clearly doesnt understand erosion|1 Yeah doctors treat patients by rolling dices It pairs nicely with the other guy who said that we should learn how to regenerate neurons with a quick Google search|1 This doesnt seem artificially high Ive heard that as many as 20 need medical attention here Italy is not just testing severe cases|1 OK broWanna get your ass off the couch and go help out at hospitals in Wuhan|1 They are prepared for outbreaks Europe is not|1 Yeah All freshmenjuniors have to live on campus and then about half of the seniors live on campus or in houses owned by the school There are some people who live in houses off campus that arent leaving but otherwise everyone else was told to pretty much take your stuff or even all of it like move out because we may not be coming back for the end of the school yearThey wont enforce us moving out because they only told us yesterday and now its spring break but since the majority of students are from out of state coming back to get belongings later would be a real pain|1 USA so far has pretty low score on this survey ranking nations based on how well they do compared to all other countries on catching and reporting Coronavirus caseshttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbt5r7deviationofexpectedcaseshttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbt5r7deviationofexpectedcases|1 Since china is a light communist dictatorship its not surprising that they are silencing people That dont make it right its just not so strange|0 Already having respiratory issues is probably a big one too I have asthma and my mom has COPD I hope I dont get it but Im terrified she will It would probably be the end|0 Well fuck|0 construction demand will go down with an outbreak anyway|0 It is going to be They always say life gets in the way of school but I figured the risk was pregnancy Not a fucking pandemic induced recessionOntop of that theres definetely no way either of my jobs are secure so fuck saving up for school right|0 I know exactly what you mean as I do the same at home They come in some actually sneeze without covering their faces too and one actually stained my paintwork with his nose gunk Its disgusting Im tempted to put a sign up and say to everyone on entry use tissue to cough or sneeze and put in here I cant even get hold of decent masks so Im at higher risk than usual of getting anything Every bugger thats come in the last 3 months has been silent then coughed into the air before leaving No respect for anyone else|0 NOPE The ones that have to begged not to drink bleach are the ones we dont want Let Darwin have em|0 Not saying I approve of the administrations handling of this but does no one remember that Obama didnt declare a national emergency for Swine Flu until 1000 americans had died|0 Perhaps its unfounded but I feel more comfortable with each province taking the lead for themselves Those provinces that dont feel comfortable taking the lead for themselves can defer to federal guidelinesAnd whatever those guidelines are each of us is responsible for slowing the spread Avoid crowds wash hands effectively dont touch your face have three weeks of food human and pet and otc meds etc in case you need to quarantine or isolate|1 My idiot parents sent my sister to school today even though Ive been begging them to home school her Shes immunocompromised and my parents are at the at risk age group if infected Its pissing me off so much My GP Im in Windsor says she has a bunch of potentially infected patients that arent being tested because the health unit says they have to have travelled to a hot spot recently I cant even|0 Right out of Game if Thrones Nice|1 We are not testing the vast majority of people who need it We most likely already have 50000 cases or more Some showing symptoms and some not In less than 10 days this is going to explode Come back to this comment at that point and give it a hard look and realize how wrong you are|0 Yup I said that in my original comment Its also possible that he was reinfected died Absolutely less likely than him just not being recovered or the virus damaging organs enough that they gave out later but still a possibility Just because its the scariest possibility doesnt mean it isnt possible I just think that people are constantly minimizing the scariest possibilities saying they arent proven I agree its unlikely people can be reinfected I disagree its impossible|0 I dont really agree with your comment There is nothing cool about people suffering If anything I would hope this would allow for some type of change in leadership that allows for more regulations on things like human rights pollution and obviously this in humane live animal market that caused this whole fiasco|0 No chance at all of a reverse zoonosis Coronaviruses seems like theyre not all that picky about which mammal theyre in|1 Idk I consider myself a math person but Im not too worried For example this guy using a simple exponential model for this complex virus spread is just naive Hes assuming were going to have a CONSTANT exponential growth rate for 3 whole weeks thats just unrealistic Look at Chinas numbers look at past flu seasons etc If exponential growth alone could model pandemics the world wouldve died like 1000 times over Theres so many other parameters at play here that his exponential model is just wrong If you cant see that then maybe youre not math reliant enough|0 I dont think op was trying to justify sinophobia or racism Just pointing out that being sceptical of the PRC because of their history is important and not the same thing as sinophobia or racismI do not buy that The original post was cautioning against Sinophobia His response sidesteps it entirely No one is saying criticism about the CCP is Sinophobia but that is besides the point He is deflecting and you are aiding that deflection Just look at the downvotes my own post has gotten Whoever did so should be ashamed of themselvesI will reiterate We will not find excuses for Sinophobia It is wrong and it should be called out not given a pass with yes buts|0 Reports of24 day incubationAirborne spreadInfection through the eyesLiving on surfaces up to 9 daysCases of reinfectionR0 of up to 67 Multiple negative tests before getting a positiveFalse negativesFaulty test kitsFake numbers based on quadratic vs exponential riseRedefined criteria for countingCensorship and social controlSupply chain disruptionFactory shutdownsCancelled tech conferencesForced quarantine of 10 of the planets populationClinical trials in human populationsStock markets pumped to the moonDraw your own conclusions Not all of it is true but Chinese arent locking down millions over an acceptbly low mortality rate Regardless containment is not working and the year is 2020 so I guess we live in interesting timesOnce hospitals are overwhelmed it gets bad Disregard the bogus numbers and prepare to rideout the panic It will take time for everyone to adjust to the new normal|0 Im not insane I understand washing your hands is important but I wear these masks in spring while cutting the grass due to allergies and it quite literally prevents my throat from swelling and me from sneezing I would assume theyre also great protection against viruses and people dont want to be extremely sick I for one dont want the covid19 virus because I had the flu last year and it was among the top 5 most ill ive ever been This one sounds like it would take the 1 spotSo honestly I learned something today about those masks Best not to assume someones insane just because they dont have the same knowledge you doEdit Just to clarify because the reddit warriors have boners right now I understand that the masks are not a definite protection I stated in my second paragraph that I just figured that out Thank you for the education and mild irritation have a good day warriorsedit2 Unsubbed from notifications Yall are something else|1 Between him and Bernie Sanders most Americans should have a fair understanding of what a Brooklyn accent sounds like|1 I converted to bonds in December It was smelling of recession already|0 do you mind sourcing either of your claims plz thanks|1 If the virus affects those with respiratory illness most definitely|1 They dont have a source citation there either though Like I said I tried to search for it|1 Im not sure eitherI know there is a respiratory coronavirus in felines After initial infection many of these cats become fecal shedders In other instances asymptomatic cats may also shed viruses and infect other cats via fecaloral route for months Lets hope this virus doesnt behave the same way|1 I started stocking up a month or more ago My coworkers thought I was a nut as did my wife and parents Whos laughing now|1 If work isnt getting done a lot of companies wont have money to keep paying people for very long The government itself needs to pay people to stay home|0 Ouch dont be so harsh on yourself |0 Negatives can be positive again And positive can be negative In conclusion positive negative|1 We choose which of the two candidates we vote for but we dont feel like we get to choose who gets to be the candidates|0 The longer they wait to give us the bad news the worst its gonna be|0 I think when its national emergency you can ignore some laws|0 Well Im thankful for people like you in this world Hope everything works out for you and your fam|1 I actively fear monger to protect my china puts let us be|1 I have been to Thailand many times Was in ChonBuri and the monkeys there were huge and fat Due to their sheer numbers they would sit along the road sides Tourists buy bunches of bananas and throw at them Some of them will snatch your unattended drinks and stuff They will climb on motor bikes and play on it jump on tourists slow driven cars and sit on the top This is during normal times|1 Your writing in that comment is almost incomprehensible but theres some impressive artistry there as well possibly just going over my head because I dont know what you are talking about|1 Just the nerves|0 Talk to the doc not reddit if you are worried|0 Unless they cancel your order because they are out of stock|0 We all need to start working from home while we can still go to the office if we need help In another week there will be a lock down If no then it will be the following week Unfortunately politicians are in charge of shutting things down but they also have supporters It was very clear at Albertas update that the Premiere and Health Minster did not want to directly state that you should avoid going to restaurants even though that is exactly the right thing to do|1 Wouldnt a quick guinea pig transmission test at different temperatures and humidity levels tell us more about the seasonality and regionality of COVD19No idea if guinea pigs can be infected by SARSCoV19 but theres a transgenic strain of mice that has the human ACE2 receptor in its lungs that may be useful for this thoughhttpswwwjaxorgnewsandinsights2020februaryintroducingmousemodelforcoronavirus|1 Im not talking about products Im talking about stuff like food steel energy and drugs If you had nationalizedbacked those industries you would pay or is paying much less|1 The first key error is assuming that pneumoniainfluenza deaths are evenly distributed throughout the year That is obviously not the case They spike hard in the winter months then fall off a cliff in springsummer before spiking again in the fall Flu season is a known thing|0 Luckily I live by Atlanta so I can go to the CDC on my horse after wading through the zombies|1 Literally every major nation does this but us Im sorry that youre so unpatriotic that you think America cant do what Canada the UK Denmark etc do|0 The vaccine will come out of FDA testing in around a year so future outbreaks should be less severe|0 Can someone not from USCanada let me know how big the antivaxx movement is worldwideThe mentality in the US is so prevalent that it will likely lead to some interesting outcomes I just dont know how it measures up globally|1 Well yes but this is hardly news to anyone|1 Edit I miss understood your comments I 100 agreeIf COVID19 was circulating in the community and being misdiagnosed as flu we would pick it up as1 A double peak in flu season2 An increase in patients with flu like symptoms who test negative for flu|0 The top trending topic the other day for a couple of days was Coronovirius Definitely filtering it|1 No you dont the shutdowns have to happen throughout the whole process to reduce the period of exponential growth otherwise itll have minimal impact You dont wait for the spike to happen you stop it from happening and spread cases out over a longer period|0 httpswwwnytimescom20200311businessmediatomhankscoronavirushtmlTom Hanks said on Wednesday that he and his wife Rita Wilson learned they had the coronavirus The 63yearold Academy Awardwinning actor is in Australia where he was set to film a movie about the life of Elvis PresleyHello folks Rita and I are down here in Australia Mr Hanks said in a statement We felt a bit tired like we had colds and some body aches Rita had some chills that came and went Slight fevers too To play things right as is needed in the world right now we were tested for the coronavirus and were found to be positiveHe added that he and Ms Wilson will be tested observed and isolated for as long as public health and safety requiresNot much more to it than a onedayatatime approach no Well keep the world posted and updated he saidHanks is playing the role of Colonel Tom Parker Presleys eccentric manager who groomed the famous singer to stardom in the 1950s Production on the film which is being directed by Baz Luhrmann is set to begin filming on MondayThe health and safety of our company members is always our top priority and we are taking precautions to protect everyone who works on our productions around the world Warner Bros the studio behind the film said in a statementAustralia has had more than 120 cases confirmed cases of coronavirus as of WednesdayThis is a developing story Check back for updates|1 Exactly NY has plenty of money and doesnt need the federal government at this point Anything Trump does to help NY will be criticized anyway|1 In SK and China the medical system is very paternalistic meaning the dr decides what to do and the patient obeys In this system there is greater efficiency at the loss of patient rights to informed consent And sometimes the greater good public health precedes human rightsTthe intersection of human rights patient vulnerabilities and medical ethics is tricky httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC1079446httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC1079446|1 Iranian problems need Iranian solutions US should go out of middle east No one here want US Fuck trump|0 Im having the same issue My mind has gone to shit I want this whole thing to be over already|0 We all have choices we can make to help or hinder the progress we make fighting this virus Unfortunately for many this choice involves their livelihood Its time for business and employers to think about 10 years from now and not 10 minutes from now This is the time to consider the world outside of yourself The quicker we all take appropriate preventative measures the quicker we can reestablish a new normal Schools need to close nonessential businesses should do the same The more we fight this the longer we will fight all of this|0 There goes whats left of my nerves Thanks|1 Thats just not true As other people have said chloroquine is an available prescription drug in the US It is specifically used for malaria prophylaxis|0 Excellent work If only our government was so diligent and transparent we wouldnt be in this mess Brace yourselves folks it looks like this will be a painful ride|1 this is a serious problem I am like that for a dentist visit but the stakes here are super high|1 Even if true doesnt mean that the hoi polloi will accept it|1 Love the petty down votingHave a nice day|1 Didnt they announce 2 like 4 days ago|0 I said purer quality and I said it was my prejudice Why because its a man thing there and with men stronger usually means more manlyOtherwise good answers|1 Add a negative Kel factor whatever that is|0 Disclaimer I can only speak for Colorado and our specific circumstances So were from a rural resort county that until today had the highest number of cases Were now tied with Denver so still pretty high and they confirmed community spread here a few days ago He had a fever body aches and a dry cough for a few days and was negative for strep and flu The urgent care doctor ordered the test based on all of those factorsWe found out after the exam they did ask a few disqualifying questions on the sly like if he had a runny nose or productive cough to confirm it wasnt likely a regular cold or anything|1 This would be life changing for me I rent an office and pay a mortgage on my home and I have no idea at all how I will pay those bills in 2 weeks|0 I still feel like these people who say 80 of people are gonna be fine are fucking oblivious to what that actually means and theyre the ones who are going to have a real hard time cause they werent ready Idk if anything has changed in the last week but I saw a few articles that said 40 out of the 80 of mild cases will have pneumonia In my 20s I had a bacterial pneumonia and I thought I was going to die I would not compare that to a mild cold|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Can we please riot outside white house with our coronovirus infected ass|0 No they can get it also|0 Im guessing not that much better I think vaping has a lot of temporary side effects as Im always coughing up phlegm these days from it|0 Very worrying indeed|0 Fuck Fox|0 Same here in Missouri Im assuming the whole nation is banning bars and restaurants Im shit out of luck for the next month and i have no money|0 Hopefully we can start throwing more money their way and they can start buying the paper to take those notes|1 Me too brother me too My Trumper friend initially said I was overreacting No longer Local Army base has no toilet paper Guess that make it real|0 I believe COVID19 is only the name of the disease not the virus At least thats how Wikipediahttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2019novelcoronavirus is interpreting itI suspect they may be trying to standardize coronavirus Disease naming conventions First we had Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome caused by SARSCoV Then we had Middle East Respiratory Syndrome caused by MERSCoV Now we have COVID19 which is caused by what I believe is still called 2019nCoV SARSCoV2 This way we dont have to flop around with geographical names symptom identifying names or anything else Its a coronavirus Which one The 2019 oneIts slightly worrying that they feel these viruses need standardized naming however that would suggest they expect more novel coronavirusesEDIT One more thought I think this makes sense for differentiating between symptomatic and asymptomatic cases Just because you have 2019nCoV SARSCoV2 does not mean you have COVID19 Just like getting HIV does not instantly mean you have AIDS It does however mean you can put others at risk of contracting HIV|0 Well Hell probably be getting CovidSooner rather than later|0 NOT GOOD ENOUGH SHUT IT DOWN|0 Looks like the guy nuked his channel I just uploaded it httpsyoutubecHSzkCfP208|1 Up until today my home country was Coronavirus free Today an idiot decided to escape from quarantine in Italy she has tested positive for the virus hence the quarantine and take a flight back home Now over 100 people have been exposed to the virus on the plane plus all the people at the two airports she came in contact with plus her own family members People are so fucking selfish|1 Your neighbor who has to go a week or more without food will kill you if thats only way he can feed himself|1 Weird though because Sweden is also refusing to follow expert advice on this of course that gets no publicity and is one of the biggest proclimate change countries|0 Any real source on this That particular channel has plenty of inflated numbers I cant find anything in the news other than the increase of cases in South Korea|1 Privatised healthcare people cant afford is how allow the spread of a pandemic|1 Well its about fucking time|1 I found 2 masks also used by my kids during Halloween maybe this ones can scare off the virus|0 you may feel a slight sting Thats pride fucking with you|1 This is such a great answer I was worried about PICU what about kids that need vents or respirators How will they be prioritized|1 People in my school have been quarantined I believe Still fully operational as the people in charge say that surfaces cannot stay contagious long enough for them to matter Same classrooms as sick people can be used|0 Genetics Like everything in life no gaurentee and very complex Pray for humanity 1 Wash hands 2 Take VIT C D and zync all day everyday 3 Light cardio daily strengthen lungs 4 Buy O2 sat tester for early detection lung problems 5 Forehead temp sensor early detection fever 6 Wear masks if sick have 9 use diff one daily swap them 7 Has he plenty of food for 1 month self isolation 8 Dont go to hospital unless trouble breathing 9 Self isolate old frail now dont wait 10 Pray and wait|0 But they are with other family members Other people live in the same housethey clearly said thatSo other family members can come and go from an infected house|0 Really seems like he did this and it doesnt surprise me given everything hes done He only care about himself and his family Just evil people|0 Same here My job finally put out notices telling people to stay home if sick but is blowing off anyone telling them they are sick like nah youll be okay its just a cough|0 If Trump would have shut down the Mexican border you know for damn sure that he would have been called Racist for doing it|0 He couldnt fit his shit eating grin under a mask|1 I wonderas Im JapaneseI might make people more nervous|0 Looks a lot like the 1Point3Acres one but with a better UI|1 I dont know I dont think they will be able to7c5o3adoa46phdg the Chinese government is taking the most powerful measuresand everything is under control Life is normal in most other parts of China by far with only a few cities like Wuhan affected I believe it will all return to normal soon The impact from a virus epidemic on Chinas economy will be limited and temporary and the countrys financial markets will return to normal in the long run Everything is okay friends no need to worry|1 Shit Just Got Real|0 Trusting government is the last thing you will ever do They are only good at taxing you up until your breaking point and then returning 1100th in the form of shitty services after government workers get paidIts a scam|0 Actually USA is ranked 1 in pandemic preparedness because of their superior health care system FYI medicare for all would make private health care illegal which is beyond stupid Better to have a public option and allow people to buy additional coverage on top of it That way you wont die waiting for months for it to be your turn to get the surgery or get told your life is not worth the cost of healthcare like what happens in Europe|1 Every neighborhood and district has different rules my moms neighborhood allows one person to leave once a day My cousin already back to work|0 And no tips because everyone is miserable|0 At this point it doesnt really matter the death rate will still spike dramatically if we dont have medical facilities for people who need them|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Better drink some too just to be sure|1 Im really disturbed that Trump put this responsibility on Pence It seems like it was going to be a resounding success then Trump would love to claim the victory for himself|1 I would be surprised if reelection was not a bigger consideration of his at present than the life changingending ramifications this virus will have on Americans in the coming weeksmonths|1 Yeah tons of people probally got infected right there|0 And flew through an airport that averages 32000 travelers per day Most of Raleigh has probably been exposed by this point|0 Yeah I would stop rent from our renters but considering everything I am afraid I might not be able to cover the mortgage on our rental property as well as our own home My husband is in the airline industry and we couldnt afford the risk|1 Wow did not have it good at all full time work aged 15years a child no less been fighting for a better more eco aware world for 50 years working as a nurse since I was 18 low pay crap conditions Couldnt buy my own place until I was 37 and then only with help to buy Had to bring up two kids on my own and work 4 zero contract hours jobs to do it and then study on top to get a better job and keep a roof over our heads News flash this stuff has been happening forever not just millennialsgen z however yes for sure the amount of jobs that have decent conditions has diminished When I say anything about work conditions I get told well thats just how it is now noone is interested in fighting it My eldest became profoundly unwell so I worked full time and a carer for her on top for years working 40 50hrs at work then a carer for free as I was working no help from the state on top Now unsurprisingly Im unwell cant manage to work until Im 66 lost my job my home my income my health my career everything I worked and struggled for and then have to listen to folk like you Icing on the cake flipping heck Im not particularly unusual either lots like us 1000s dying before they reach pension age Despite this I still do what I can to change things as I worry about my kids and their generation despite posts like above Im really so proud of my kids weve been through so many difficulties and they are both really very compassionate and fight for a better world as best they can My eldest has recovered enough to mostly live independently so you know I would give everything I have to make them well and I dont begrudge a single hour that Ive worked or supported them to get to this point I am not never have been never will be a Tory I have been watching social change and shift for many many years and unfortunately the BlairBrown combo did a lot to bring about the changes currently blighting the lack of financial support to those unable to work And this started with shifts in the attitudes and reforms to the long term sick and disabled It was softer than the language used now but nether the less they are also culpable What really worrying me about your attitude is that it blinds you to the reality of your own future and that of your generation The ones in power will steal it from you easier then they stole mine from me because you are already eating up and repeating their lies You will blame everyone but the real culprits and that is a disaster|0 Oh Shit Sending you good vibes from Iowa Hang in there|0 My friends parents are going to travel to Italy very soon Im going to let him and his parents knowOP take care Thanks for the update Edit Yes my friend had a hard time convincing his parents His dad basically said well Im going to die one way or another Why should I let it bother me|1 If I know the writers of CoronaVirus the hot new soap opera running every hour of every day that woman definitely has Covid The cruiseship quarantine is getting a little cliche but well see what plot twists awaitJokes are all I have left sadly|0 Please post a picture of your home made loaves We dont have a bread maker or I would try it but the old fashioned way will not work when you have 2 counter surfing teenage hungry ninja kittens|1 Thats not how it works not everyone that gets it will die|0 Yes At this point domestic as well Close schools and businesses enforce quarantines until we have a handle on this Sure that may be extreme but this is an extreme situation thats being heavily downplayed Millions of lives could still be saved and nothing is being done A reactive approach has been taken This situation is infuriating and feels like a living nightmare|1 Apparently per BNO News the Critical is inaccurateLumps Serious and Critical togetherhttpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscaseshttpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscases|0 Ibuprofen is not recommended here in FranceIt seems it worsens the disease|0 You know its bad when the Cathedral City cheese is in a bulletproof security box|0 rlegaladvice says possibly but its hard to prove Still Document everything My big regret in life is I always trusted my employers too much to document everything and constantly maintain a cover for my ass|0 This whole mess is going to really hurt Chinese Restaurants because people are afraid to get infected and tbh I get it Its a really bad time for Chinese restaurant owners|0 And as weve seen the flareups italy for instance happened months after Chinas WuhanIt might be 60 days once it takes hold in an area but different areas will be hit at different times right Itll be like dominoes falling it wont all appear everywhere all at once|1 Unfortunately everything is controversial right now as this is a very new and fastchanging scenario We just have to do the best with what information we have as we wait for more confirmation|1 Its a droplet infection like most other respiratory infections The dangerous part is that it has such a long incubation period in that time you can spread it to many more people than you could spread influenza|0 Murder him|0 Humanity and compassion first Thank you Korea|1 Possibly to make up for other purchases that are unavailableIf you wander down the canned veg section and its cleaned out then you think ok frozen and if thats cleaned out you move to fresh and plan to freezepickleprecook whatever you can|1 This is far more serious than even doomers were predicting|0 Yeah Taiwan was super proactive in every way with travel bans health warnings a massive drives to give everyone masks|1 Our email was only a couple sentences stating we were keeping kids out of school today due to state of emergency and NIHs recommendation to avoid large gatherings We then asked if they had a couple minutes to discuss by phone We hope to have our kids back in school ASAP as do our kids Hopefully we have a clearer picture of the situation as more testing is done|1 I hope you dont get it|1 waitso you dont care about huge news corporations using it but you want someone to attribute you in their school presentation|0 Ahhh the fresh naivety of youth Adorable|1 Im 23 live with my mum sister and young brother Ive tried to explain this to friends and my mum saying that I know a time will come when direct debits will bounce when we cant afford rent When that time comes there is no way in hell wed be the first ones to miss payments so what are they realistically going to do Ive got enough money to stop working now and survive until May or June whilst supporting the household where when possible if Im frugal enough by that point there is no way were gonna be the first missing payments and if we do we wont be alone soon|0 I just had an interview on friday for an IT sysadmin position at a company that is in the travel industry I got the job but before they could send me an offer letter they were put on hiring freezeI really want this job because currently I work IT in a Hospital Shit is proper fucked|0 Lets not pretend misinformation doesnt exist even if we disagree with censorship|0 Im saying its def happening sorry probably wasnt clear Totally agree its growing exponentially again because it doesnt seem like WA is in containment it seems like the core post says in mitigation The rate is too high|0 In light of the high similarity between SARSCoV and SARSCoV2 it is quite likely that the potential neuroinvason of SARSCoV2 plays an important role in the acute respiratory failure of COVID19 patients According to the complaints of a survivor the medical graduate student 24 years old from Wuhan University she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care She said that if she fell asleep she might die because she had lost her natural breath No reason to be worried|0 What is the point of giving the federal government so much power if they cant use it in a timely manner|1 Just wait till kids come back from spring sick as a dog bc they were taking advantage of cheap flights lmao even then some the kids might be nonsymptomatic and spread it anyway|1 Then my wifes not been in those planning meetings Shes been in the ward reconfiguration and staff training meetings cancelling everything else for them Shes only been an 8a for 10 weeks talk about trial by fireShed not mentioned triage by age to me thankfully|1 I feel you shouldnt be giving medical advice or making extrapolations you arent qualified to make online unless you are a doctor which I am assuming you are not|0 So what you are secretly saying is that the CCP is a threat to the world and should be destroyed I suppose the Taiwanese government should supplant them too right You should be more careful about saying those kinds of things where Great Father Xi can see Murdering Tibetans Uighur and millions of their own people in the name of expansionist autocracy is fake too I love the Chinese and the CCP is in no way shaping up to be fascism on steroids|0 Assuming any of that still means anything next year not in an apocalypse kind of way but in a we cant believe this government fucked with our lives so much time to throw them out kind of way|0 I think the big difference for me is countless hospitals across the country begging to test critical symptomatic patients and being turned down even today still Still are not prepared and are actively causing outbreaks through lack of testing What of the people who are sick and go about to work ride the bus whatever thinking no cases here and kill people|0 Whoa This doesnt sound good At all How impossible is it to keep MILFIL from the rest of the family And is there anyone else who can pick them up from the airport Thinking 1 cruise and 2 age will make them even more susceptible Presumably both MILwife telework|0 So a rhythm of high and low pressure then Maybe some sort of limiter valve that still lets some air through when the patient has to exhale but still enough to keep the airways open Could possibly even just choke the output tube a bit so air leaves more slowly and the airways dont collapse|0 I told people to be smart and stock up now though I blasted the alarm to many just 2 weeks ago and felt bad about doing it so late in the gameI finally settled on the reality that my parents were doing some but not enough and ordered them 100 of shelfstable staples last week The food arrived the day before the panic buying hit and they were appreciative but thought Id gone nutty Now theyre just appreciative|1 I absolutely hate the summer heat and now I find myself wishing for it|0 My SO wants us to go to AZ from CA to see her mom and her home town I think its risky and she called me ignorant about the severity and that the only time you need to be scared of getting it is when traveling by plane or mass transit She says we will be driving in our car to her childhood home We will obviously be going out to see things and I think its not a good time to go|0 Thanks Reddit for making the virus worse by breaking the site trying to find a cure|0 Dry mouth and gaseous stomach sounds like classic gastrointestinal problems I recall diarrhea being reported as a symptom on occasion which is why the whole fecaloral link subverts the sub So its not outside the realm of possibility Id say|0 And those high prices ensure that some will still be in stock when those people need to buy it|1 Really really well saidAny virus situations is the enemy of all human When we have this problem we need to put our financial religious or even political differences aside and help each other China and Italy locking themselves down isnt gonna make the virus go away if the rest of the world still denies the facts We have an Olympic Games this year which also means thousands of people had put in years of efforts for this one game to fullfil their dreams Governments may be stupid and slow but citizens can start from themselves and take the necessary precautions with common sense Remind people we love to do the same Many countries have already setup frontline medical teams dedicated to COVID19 patients so lets all do our part to make sure their hard work wont be wasted and they can all go back home to their loved ones ASAP safe and sound|1 I wonder if they will block the borders|0 I feel like not only was Denmark being naive they were on a mission to spread this Doctors were literally telling people on the national internet news page that going to the gym or taking your kids swimming is an excellent idea and great for your health The very next day they tell people to stay home and dont go close to the gymIts like we believe in our government so blindly its crazyJust because the government tells you its OK to fly out and enjoy your vacation in Italy maybe try to research first Not even 1 week after and government is telling people to stay far away from Italy as possibleIts stupid Im disappointed in us Sure we should not panic There really is no need Am sure most of us have enough dry food in our homes to survive a whole year without starving to deathBut we shouldnt just blindly trust what they tell us about spreading the diseaseLike right now people are still working Children cant go to school though Bet whos going to be taken care of by their grandparents The very people who are effected by this the most Just stupidEnd of rant|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 They are also willing to be labeled racist if it means protecting their citizens|0 Right Everyone around me is like oh my gosh these last couple days have destroyed me Im like yeah the last 6 weeks have been pretty rough for me actually|1 I understand that nationally yes but a lot of us are buying exactly what we need for two to four weeks of isolation and calmly heading home to browse reddit and wait this out The problem is a lot of us depend on society and the economy for our basic needs to be met no safety net So when those are threatened there is a lot of cognitive dissonance and distancing from reality Wish us luck|1 Protect everyone Wtf are you doing valuing some actors life above your own Reddit 100|1 I am so sick of Americans and how they arent taking this seriously|0 To be fair we used to pay the prime minister 8x what Obama was paid I think hes taken a pay cut since thenI mean I am queer so LGBTQ rights directly affect me You can have our ministers Just know youll be giving up democracy for that Oh and chewing gum No chewing gum for you p|0 That will literally never happen Youre asking for the world to stop turning because youre scared At least be realistic What about essential jobs Keeping grocery stores open Producing food Nurses and doctors Where do you draw the line at essential|0 Im waiting for it to happen here in NYC Its gonna suck|0 1 Italy has carried out more than 8600 tests in a few days 2the countries hiding cases and not testing people are Japan and Iran all the south east asian countries|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Why is this news Honestly it makes no sense If you get it your probably going to get it again Thats just what happens These governments saying lets shutdown schools etc for a month then what The virus will still be there probably more chance of catching it as well as in a months time more people will have it meaning the percentage of you getting it is increased Absolutely fucking pointless|1 So when this is all over hopefully it will be over and some of us will be left will the CDC and our administration be held responsible criminally for the lives lost due to their negligence|1 Can you share your recipe|1 That was my point they know it could definitely work so better prep up|1 On Amazon it currently says that it is on track to ship for Friday My boyfriend just ordered it this week however and customer service told him he wont get it for weeks because it is first come first served He checked Walmart and it looks like they still have free delivery for Friday|1 Pneumonia is almost never mild in the traditional sense outside of atypical walking pneumonias usually caused by Mycoplasma sp Many cases require hospitalization Relatively mild cases of pneumonia requiring hospitalization will require only IV fluids or supplemental O2 while severe cases result in ARDS and mechanical ventilation Hospitalization for pneumonia does not imply a death sentence In the US death rates for patients hospitalized for pneumonia range from 510 httpswwwhealthlinecomhealthpneumoniacanyoudiefrompneumonia|1 I dont how anybody in their right mind would praise Pornhub or any porn website All of this is a publicity stunt to attract attention Toxic pornography can do no good|1 Invalid number of cases for Slovenia There have been 6 known cases by the end of yesterday Slovenian press agencyhttpsenglishstasi2735621measuresafootassixtestpositiveforcoronavirusinslovenia Slovenian governmenthttpswwwgovsientopicscoronavirusdiseasecovid19|1 Im someone who is worried about the people they care about|1 Yup I was planning on flying to a big city for vacation this weekend I have decided not to go and to instead drive to a national parkIm sorry but theres no way a 5 hour drive out of the city to a middle of nowhere campsite increases my chance of infection Id have to really analyze the science on that one|0 Interesting to see your research on that In any case Im a normally healthy Male in their 20s so I should rather do it than some with health problems in their 40s or 50sneed to get away from This me me me culture and think of the greater good|1 Has anyone had a very runny nose My husband has one now along with a low fever and bit of a cough after attending a crowded convention late last week Ive read runny nose is a symptom but I didnt see you mention that|0 I want to get off Mr bones wild ride|1 I have 10 flu cases around me|0 Its definitely happening in the US soon|1 Well i just read about the spanish flu it is true The first strain of spanish flu was a mild one with mortality rate of just normal flu the second wave was a more deadly strain that had a mortality rate between 2 and 3 That strain had w curve which means that it had high mortality rate among young old and healthy people between 2535 At least that is how i understand it correct me if i am wrong|0 They want their people They get ALL their people I can see it|1 Yes we saw this pattern in multiple countries now Confirmed case dies government panics starts testing everyone turns out plenty of infected around|0 THe fact you people would give it up so quickly speaks volumes to why we should be thankful the constitution cant be changed quickly Youd regret giving the government those powers in a hot second|1 You mean thishttpselsjbsprodcdnliteratumonlinecomcmsattachmenta439bdcb0d2245ca8721828819d14b12gr2jpg one Thats pretty typical for ARDShttpsmediaspringernaturecomfullspringerstaticimageart3A1011862Fs1305401926468MediaObjects1305420192646Fig1HTMLpngaswebp This shows the progression in the ICU not the whole progression from the onset of COVID19 to death Someone who reached the starting point of the curve 0 day will be categorized as critical and the median duration from the onset to the starting point of the curve was 95 days in the study Hence if you assume the average infection date as Feb 10 you should be able to see the most of the passengers who would eventually ride the curve by now in the critical or death number for Diamond PrincessHowever what the number 36 exactly means is unclear How many of 36 admitted to the ICU If you assume thats the compound number for severe and critical and the ratio of severecritical is 41 then there are 9 passengers on the curve If thats the case 25 more will fall|0 They suicided reddits primary founder years ago Aaron is literally rolling in his grave at this point He was all about free speech|1 we are begging people to call their primary care doctors and get an action plan in place for what to Do if they develop symptoms a wrinkle in this which i can vouch for personally at least with respect to four people in three cities in SoCal when we call the PCPs they tell us to go to the ERits a problem|1 LMAOOOOOO I was just thinking about this yesterday everyone in the US was literally in a panic over ecigs in general after some idiot put random chemicals in a THC vape and maybe 50 kids got sick Now with an actual threat of a deadly pandemic basically shutting down our lives for a period of time just doesnt seem to bother them at all|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 everyone fails to mention the shocking level of bureaucratic corruption that abets criminal negligence of basic health and safety standards agriinsustrial practices put in place to stem zoonotic diseasethe complete lack of social compact that compels a person to stay home and not try trounce around all over the place and the globe infecting othersthe complete lack of moral ethical or legal compulsion to adhere to practices that would be beneficial to society i create quality products because i value my customersi follow quality guidelines because its the right thing to do at the very goddamn least because i wont get in trouble amoral at best down right evil at worstthis is chinathe ccp crony capitalists reaping the whirlwind for forcing its shitty products and shitty authoritarian worldview on to the rest of us exporting repression and surveillance technology around the globe because the ccp wants everyone to live the waking nightmare theyve createdreap the fucking whirlwind|0 I think hes being sarcastic|0 I find it highly unlikely it is spread by the food but rather there may be an infected food service worker or they havent cleared those handling food Either way they must realize they need to bring food on soon|0 This totally misleading those are the total numbers at the end of the emergency Wuhan is just starting so this comparison is not appropriate|0 Such stupidity to think that we have any advantage China has so much more capability to build hospitals quarantine people mass mobilization make people do what they are told compared and provide healthcare for peopleHere in the USA nobody wears masks washes their hands All hourly employees go to work sick because they have to and dont see a doctor because they cant afford it Here the person placed in charge doesnt believes the earth is 6000 years old and plagues are sent by God RIP USAEdit stupid spelling error|0 We really cant do much though Wouldnt China step in at that point Also Im just a person living slightly above poverty in Ohio I would never get approved for a work VISA in China so I could go to the border and do what Pass out USBs and hope their government doesnt discover them and jail them What would you have us do Do you think SK and US or any of its allies want a war with China|0 Ah the very important I told you so perhaps delivered from a deathbed|1 Please forgive my ignorance Where can I find this in English I tried googling the keywords but couldnt find a translation If this is true everyone needs to see this|1 And Korea There was an interesting first person account of life there atm and mask was a big part of the persons story|1 Im a registered nurse I understand the difference between masks and personal protective equipment People can do and think what they want its not worth my time to argue with anyone Just giving a bigger perspective take it or leave it doesnt affect me|0 His primary interest is keeping up the car production lines So he is downplaying the risks|1 Yeah this makes sense also shuts down those rumors of this has been spreading uncontrolled since November and is probably all over the world|1 Theres clearly no reasoning with you For others following along we have a very limited supply of tests If someone has a better method thats not just wasting the tests wed all love to hear it|1 Yup I wonder how bad it is or could get in Africa Its probably there but lack of data is due to poor healthcare system monitoring However possibly the climate differences may result in different degree of infection or mortality|0 Sorry I get the two confused Emotions running high here|0 StartyBleepbloop Im a bot This portmanteauhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPortmanteau was created from the phrase Stake party FAQshttpswwwredditcomaxl72o FeedbackhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetojamcowlsubjectPORTMANTEAUBOTfeedback OptouthttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetoPORTMANTEAUBOTsubjectOPTOUTREQUEST|1 thats some white exceptionalism shit|0 Wow Same for me I went to the UPenn ER today with a fever and all symptoms and they didnt test I tested negative for flu and all other common viruses I am a healthy 33yo make and only mildly symptomatic They said they have only 6 tests in the state reserved for the elderly big maybe that they will have tests available next week and i can come back in|1 Which is so stupid idk why Japan is behind the rest of the world in credit and debit cardsDownvoted for this Wtf|0 I think the major networks are holding back for two reasons One theres a ton of political news going on right now Two they dont want to cry wolf again like some of the last pandemics While this one looks much worse than previous ones there arent a ton of cases in the US yet|1 Having a pantry to stock up whenever anything is on special is a great idea You build up stocks and you save money on longlife staples so its a winwin whatever happens Beans dried peasrice pasta soap detergents in general toiletries jam peanut butter oil salt sugar honeyCollect empty peanut butter and other spread jars clean them well dry them well and use them to store rice beans pasta sugar Dont store in bags youll get vermin You can present that as an environmental recycling project for school He can also present to his parents as a way to budget and save on staples not a panic|1 I like how the last part of the sentence is in caps to solicit more panic|0 Not saying I agree but I imagine it is because many AIDS patients had other infectious diseases during their hospital stays that she was exposed to|0 Ive had a cold noncorona for 4 weeks which is hard to shake but which I havent given to others However my greatest fear is Ill catch Corona19 due to low immunity and pass it onto my elderly parents or someone who takes it home to a sick relative or patient My other fear is for highcare patients in nursing homes like my cousin who depends on carers for her life If she or carers were to become infected I dont even want to think of the possible ramifications|0 Step in the right direction Illnesses are a common enemy|0 This is amazing We all need to be more kind and be like this We need to come together over this pandemic|1 I dont get a choice about any comment about Venezuela Any way you might be able to state that in a way that makes a lick of sense Not having a choice is part of the problem with Venezuela you get what the dictator and guards decide to leave you Feel confident in them having mercy on you Well I am not Am actually a registered Democrat And most establishment Republicans dont consider Trump a Republican it was a major sticking point in the primary And that is one of my major beefs the establishment|1 My stupid client said today I think the media is causing all this ridiculous behavior Yesthe media caused every government in the world to close borders and collapse the economy Brilliant|0 I went a week ago today for my last foodtoiletries prep to the Apex Costco I saw about 4 other people stocking up but everyone else was just normal levels for shopping With all the deaths yesterday I had a panic moment myself and did an aldi order for another 2 weeks of food Im so glad I did|1 Switzerland is ranked place 6 in the world of you use the amount of cases per 100k peopleeven ranked number 5 if we believe Chinese reports|1 Wrong They also do it for rich people Declare bankruptcy and start a new game|1 I guess theyre used to dealing with HIVAIDS the victim is even wearing his own mask which ought to give them a hint in case they thought it was just a random heart attack or something Somebody needs to be giving the EMTs a 10minute crash course in Covid19 and how to respond appropriately Id bet money that they have masks and protective gear in the truck but they were told they dont need to wear it Looks like blue rubber gloves are the only protection for the EMT|1 Caning is a form of authoritarian control leaves permanent disfiguration and should be abhorred by anyone who believes in human rightsCorporal punishment in lieu of a jail sentence is something I approve of A lot of the time sending criminals to jail is the equivalent of sending them to Crime University on the taxpayer dime|0 Yeah hes a trustworthy guy|1 Lets hear from France again when theyre at 100000 cases and Mr Bonnell is sick himself I know were going to have a lot of cases too but a little less because of the travel ban for sure|0 I still play it pretty much whenever I can before classes and on the way home|1 please dont evade my question is there a difference in sentence between these two situations or do they receive THE EXACT same sentencealso when you are responding to this do mention your country|1 Police forces woefully understaffed and underfunded Response officers get corona from a suspect back to the nick give more people in the nick corona and bamNeeds more money and more officers|0 No worries|0 Oh wow Thank you for sharing I was involved when I was younger because of a crazy exgf Im so thankful I didnt go along with their bizarre ideals I would have been married with 20 kids and 5 jobs and no money What a creepy cult|1 Tomorrow were supposed to receive the report from Dr Bruce Aylward the Canadian who led the WHO group in China Im sure that while he got a managed tour it was probably still a better window into whats actually happening than most would get in fact its fairly surprising they actually were allowed into Wuhan at all Dr Aylward looked impressed by the Chinese response and seemed to suggest using it as a model for the global response Heres the video of the press conference httpswwwweibocomtvvIvIPBrmiXfid10344475598899445792httpswwwweibocomtvvIvIPBrmiXfid10344475598899445792 Were sure to learn more tomorrow will be interesting to see the full list of recommendations Too bad the author of the above article didnt wait another day or two it would be interesting to have their reaction to the reports findings as well edited sentences and grammar|1 There are many examples online but heres the latest I saw an interview with a crematorium employee httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKFxCqV1fPQwatch to the end where she opens up about the real numbers vs the official numbers which are 20x lower ie the official death toll that day was 8 in that area when that one crematorium alone cremated 150 bodies that same day|0 If it becomes seasonal vaccine becomes rlly important|1 dead cat bounce people vastly underestimate the impact this virus will have on the world economy|0 Thank you so much for your kindness 3 You hang in there too|1 Dont forget urichardh87httpswwwredditcomuserrichardh87 and his site he put up httpsncovr6nohttpsncovr6no|1 Your source doesnt say 66 million so what year are you talking about I agree that hospitals could get overrun if this virus gets out of control But 30 infection rate at a single point in time is just fear mongering|0 Im not even Mormon but Utah is the place to be Mormons believe in prepping they actively invest in their infrastructure and the Mormon church has a 150 billion reserve fund They also declared a state of emergency before they had any cases|0 plied that it wasnt that dangerous right as the first US death rolled in The head of the US government is not taking it seriously at wanna know when obama declared a national emergency with the swine flu after 1000 deaths|0 Average age of death is 80 Including immuno deficient Everyone who died in the USA had underlying health conditions|0 Completely agreeI was thinking this morning that there was good also in this event as the corruption of all governments from all countries come to lightCCP lying to its citizens to the world using authoritarian measures to condemn people to misery or deathItaly Japan and all the others lying about the numbers and downplaying the issue because they are afraid of economic consequences on tourism events business flight connections etcAbe in Japan hiding for a month because of economic consequences then declaring random stuff like schools being closed but not providing a solution for the parents etc Still thinking that the Olympics can happen because theres too much money to be lostFrances health minister quitting her job so that neither her nor the new minister can fully be held accountableUSA discussing the price of the vaccine that is not yet produced in order to create incentive for the labs to do research Because lives dont matter USA not being able to request masks and other PPE suppliers to supply prioritarily hospitals and medical staffAll the governments who do not in such times of crisis take the action to support people who cannot work or are going to lose their job because of this situation as well as the cost of the hospitalization or testing for those who do not have free healthcareThe whole world caring more about the stock market than the citizens who support them and enable themIran or Turkey downplaying the issue too and using religion against a virus Science people Your beliefs and lies are going to cause deathsIt only comes down to us to stop buying into this manipulation game To stop playing the obedient victims into this abusive relationship Voting isnt enough anymore There is way too much centralization of power and richness in the hands of few while they are not held accountable for anything they doHumans are weak frail prone to being corruptedWe need designs that can prevent thisComplete transparency We have all the tools to achieve thisBut we cant expect our governments to go towards thisAs it is the opposite of what they seek|0 A transcript of this whole press conference would be amazing Just a random collection of words|1 Thanks Im home with my old parents rn 65 and I have a small cough and backache because I sweat down my gfs park two days ago so Im freaking out I might have the virus which I most likely dont have and the paranoia even made my body temperature a tad warmer which increased the paranoia even more I self quarantined myself in a room of my house and my parents are making fun of me but I cant take even the slightest risk Its all psychological though since were bombarded by news When I wake up in the morning I feel wonderful but still I want to wait a few more days Better safe than sorry|1 The sand in their eyes makes it difficult to see anything|0 Most governments are like this why do you think there seems to be a media blackout in a few countries right now eg France because we feel more free doesnt make it true our governments rubberstamp everything from movies to news boardcast in the western sphere of influence|1 I will be messaging you in 15 hours on 20200318 184115 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003182018411520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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out in the community every day My partner works from home and our finger is on the trigger of pulling our kids out of school yet here I am traipsing around shopping centres and wherever else I get sent every day Frustrating|0 How Id love to move further east Everyone in SWVA pulls the wool over their eyes despite being effected drastically by everything that happensMy heart goes out to these people but many of them are too set in their ways to change anythingHope you stay in good health |1 Lets see The locker room Each fighters team of people The ring itself The referee The facility staff security team Any league personnel whove shown up Anyone who prepared food The prepared food The hotels where all of these people are staying Hotel staff The transportation that everyone is using to get to and from the venue The drivers of the transportation The airports they went through The other people at the airports The planes they flew on The other passengers on the planeYou dont need either fighter to have it It could already be around in a variety of ways|1 He would first have to believe that it is a serious problem|0 Yah Im not disputing that Just saying I hope that we also keep looking at other solutions and dont overlook anything This would be fantastic for my aunt who runs a private school and is going to have to cancel the end of the school year and reimburse families She has to choose between either her teachers going bankrupt or the school going bankrupt If everyone were given 1000 then that would greatly reduce the load on her school and they could probably reopen next year while continuing to support teachers|1 Are they asking them to selfquaratine because they were at an event where one person tested positive or are they all exhibiting symptoms This article isnt too indepth|1 Winnie the flu|0 Thats why Italy needs to build those makeshift hospotal to gather all those patient without serious symptomsTechnically you wont need to build just find satdiums and conference halls put beds there and its done|1 Huh I guess our public transit is pretty good Some of the UBahn wagons could use a little cleaningrefurbishing and I wish they had more comfortable seats but the SBahn and buses are completely fine And its possible to get almost everywhere in the country without a car Weird to think that what we consider the norm barely exists in the US outside of the largest cities|1 Same here lol|1 The maximum incubation period is 14 days Assuming you left by Jan 1st then you would have already been sick weeks ago|0 Cough fever shortness of breath Almost no one has stuffyrunny nose apparently|0 Yeah the rate will be higher But theyll just brush over that part|1 I think even more important has been the development of ICBMs They enable a country to hit a target anywhere in the world That means no leader can be millions thousands of miles away from the battlefield because the battlefield is potentially everywhere War is a lot less fun if youre on the battlefield And even if the leader has a bunker and reaches it in time his favorite restaurant will be gone after a nuclear exchange A loss in quality of life is enough to deter most powerful people from starting a nuclear war Of course ICBMs only make sense in combination with nuclear weapons because equipping it with a conventional warhead would create very limited damage and would be a waste of money like the German V2|0 I went for one last run today just to pick up an order of protein bars at target People milling around looking for cheap ass clothes|0 I have DD with cystic fibrosis my dad is 80 they write these people off like its nothing Chinese data showed that only 3 of fatalities were over 80 79 were aged 30 70 People confuse the oft bandied stat over 80 CFR148 many people tell me this mean 14 of fatalities are over 80s It means if 100 people who are over 80 get infected 14 will die on average Take care of yourself I cannot emphasise enough for everyone to quarantine now if for no other reason than to slow the spread to save our health services Dont wait for the Gov just do it Among 55924 laboratory confirmed cases reported as of 20 February 2020 the median age is 51 years range 2 days100 years old IQR 3963 years old with the majority of cases 778 aged between 3069 years Among reported cases 511 are male 770 are from Hubei and 216 are farmers or laborers by occupation|0 As a hockey fan seeing Chicago Penguins is triggering|1 Chinas foreign ministry was warning countries not to stop flights coming from China They were literally complicit in the spread of the virus|0 My school just decided to switch to online classes for several weeks Campus isnt shutting down dorms dining halls still open but classes arent done in person The administration isnt popular here but Im glad they take the lives of their students seriously enough to take some good steps|1 Japan is still a rich country and its healthcare system is generally fine these are not the factors causing issues hereI suspect it has a lot more to do with the cultural factors at play Japanese people are fantastic and following authority and policies and awful at thinking on their feet if its not in their manual their brains basically malfunction they also have a terrible time questioning authoritywhen this thing first started there was probably a lot of humming and hawing and sou desu nes and some old geezers who havent done anything of merit since the 70s were probably put in chargeevery Japanese person I know isnt worried about this because Japan is a safe country and every foreigner I know living in Japan is scared as hell|1 Worse there is never any sober self reflection when these people are wrong it was way worse than everyone thought Nope It was exactly what you chose not to see|0 That was nearly onehundred years ago you cant seriously compare that to modern societies and their modern medical infrastructures and hygienic standards Back then millions died from diseases and afflictions which today are a total joke|0 Thanks jack|1 And through control of the media they convince enough people that the 1s interest is actually in their interest tooSpoiler Its not and never was|1 This shouldnt be surprising considering the outbreak started at a nursing home Itll be high death numbers bc its disproportionately affecting the most vulnerable population|0 Not quite Many are pointing out that there was not nearly enough difference between the two mutations genetically to be able to effect deadliness or infection rate All viruses mutate so this is not unusal and Coronavirus is actually mutating relatively fast Scientists were able to sequence the genome of the first two infected Brazilian cases to see that one of them matched the same genetic makeup as in the UK while the other was infected by the coronavirus that resembled those being infected in Germany Again they have stated that these regional mutations have been relatively small and there is little evidence to suggest that it has became more or less deadly|0 This is the dumbest thing Ive ever read Yes masks may help But this is terrible use of data There are a lot of differences between all those countries than just masks|0 I vote yes on that Just tinker with soup canning|1 Didnt believe their numbers then dont believe them now Their economy is still looking like shit waiting to see when it pick up|0 I wish China would just swallow their stubborn pride at this pointRegardless of how deadly this thing will be in the long term its clear that they arent doing so hot NOW and they needed help like two weeks ago But instead of taking the L they repeatedly do this flip flop bullshit and now who knows how many people might have died that could have been saved all because China didnt want to look weak for putting its peoples safety first|1 Oooh this is a good one I didnt think about checking paint stores|1 More data is inherently better and when the death toll starts to skyrocket it will be too late for most containment to workMore testing would help everyone doctors politicians laypeople know how to take appropriate action|1 If she came from Iran she would of flown through either Vancouver BC Canada or Vancouver Washington US There is a smaller airport in Abbotsford BC but its international traffic is mostly US basedAs a person in the affected region it honestly rather worries me If the virus gains a foothold in Vancouver the local travel nexus it would be BADMight be a good time to do that Appalachian Trail hike Ive always wanted to do|1 How are they scaremongering People are dying More each day The governments experts are predicting 500000 deaths if we dont act citationhttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdfWhat we actually need is for people to take the current advice seriously and stop downplaying the issue Anybody who is ignoring the advice and going out as normal have a stupidity level orders of magnitude higher than dim twat|0 That graph looks strangely familiar|0 Again you are misinformed It is incredibly robust Yes I am quite aware of the investment arm of the CPP|1 Maybe I overheard a group of them blowing off steam about how crazy everyone is getting like theyve never had a flu before I think most people around here still just dont get it at all I havent seen a single other person in a mask and the amount of blatantly reckless behavior is shocking|0 Thanks Originally had the idea to make them virus quarantine By think they should be temp hospitals where we can take the current patients and those that can come out or retirement may be better placed if they arent at risk Ie increasing amount of experience on front line but not exposing them to the virus I can only try Ill be honest its like pushing water uphill I do temp structures in car parks etc Im going to make a few calls to some political contacts soon Though I am slowly losing faith|1 Hey there thanks for the link but that Website still says 35 confirmed do you have data on how many test kits are used per day in Thailand It seems thats the data we need US had times where the whole country conducted 17tests a day cannot confirm manyChina is said to only include Death from people that were previously confirmed I am a bit sceptic about the numbers in general probably most of us areOnce again I agree that panic would make things worse but there should be a bit more transparency on how that data is recordedEdit saw the PDF says under investigation which was translated by a Thai to investigated in their house aka do not go out|0 So if you self employed you can still get money from the government if you have the virus I am kinda confused|0 Its your house regardless of right or wrong its your decision to make Once of caution right now aint a bad thing tho|0 Cant wait to pay 200 usd for it|1 If I told you that you had a 1 in 50 odds of dying on a mountain trail that took two weeks to hike through how safe would you feel on that trail Oh and theres a 1 in 5 odds you end up in the hospital afterwards because the trail is just that rough on your body|1 How are you able to resist the urge of saying I told you so Dont you resent the pain they caused when they judged you for your concern for them and the risk they put on you and society by being carelessDont you want return them at least a bit of the emotional pain they caused youI guess Im just not as good of a person as you|0 Then I will agree If this goes global pandemic which seems likely then it will probably trigger a world recession|0 Thanks for responding I will continue with the matcha teaEGCG and hold off on trying the quercetin until more information comes out|1 The number probably be inaccurate for the early stage of outbreak because of the overwhelmed hospital and some people died without being tested and counted It CAN happen in any countries Govs should take measures asap to avoid the people packed in hospital like sardines|0 Madison airport processes over a million people and 83000 flights a year Its not tiny There is a good chance they flew through Detroit Chicago or Minneapolis and took a connecting flight|1 After I got my preps in order I felt much better but if you do get sick it will be from some random reason that you cant control If you get sick you may die If you die well youre dead Theres not much else to worry about|0 This sub is called ChinaFlu Just like the Spanish Flu normal people only refer it as the location of the outbreak without any special hidden meaning If that is xenophobic then any thing with a name of a country attached that you personally dont like is xenophobic by your logic The only person being xenophobic is you yourself in your own little world you carved out in your headFeel free to disagree with the politics but if you wish the death of 23 million people because you didnt like a comment on a random reddit post that says a lot about your character|1 I still cant figure out what the hell is wrong with my app It throws some sort of critical initialization error and wont even let me log in I have zero idea what the problem is and have reinstalled the app multiple times|0 This will make UFC what UFC truly is|1 Arizona said we could test 450 samples a day yet we have tested 36 people this week so far This is all just laughable now|1 I understand perfectly you needed to drive traffic to your site|1 My only complaint is theres so many people hereAnd its only going to get more packed Ive lost count of how many apartment complexes have gone up between Park and SR60 but clearly people are willing to spend 1300mo for a 500sqft 1BR apt|1 Canadians arent any better Sadly we live in a world where you think you know more than anyone else by reading an Auntie Acid meme or a Jeff Foxworthy meme with an unrelated quote over top it on Facebook|1 Can you not control it by taking a lot more insulin Your body cant pump out THAT much sugar THAT fast Up the long acting Carefully watch take one or two units extra with every meal Etc If sick go on a no carb diet almost lots of fluids Like you can do shit to help yourself I am type 1 for 15 years and I am a little worried but Im 30 and in good shape I should hope I wouldnt be that helpless if I were to catch it|1 So all Im getting from your comment is that we should act as pathetic as the Republicans act Ill guess thats not your point but thats how your comment reads|0 I am an expert in bullshit so I will do my part|0 Thanks|1 It is actually true and in Television it was said Im Italian|1 Thats fucking weird|0 So far all the data suggests children although not immune have strong resistance and do not seem to be particularly vulnerable nor susceptible to the virus in fact just the opposite The children that have become infected iirc aside from ONE fatality have on balance had excellent outcomes Not to say this will 100 remain a consistent and predictable feature and worse outcomes cant and wont happenUse your best judgement is what I would leave you with And always err on the side of cautionbut dont panic feel free to pm if frightened or have questions|0 I feel like the public would be a lot calmer knowing that yes its spread but it only requires profesional care in certain instances They are clearly under diagnosing and that makes people panic more because the assumption is that if they have to lie then it must be terrible|1 I have been all week They seem to be less freaked out than I am|0 How can they be the best if they have removed all competition Are seriously throwing away all Political Science which states that competitive systems achieve the best results I cant believe people are defending autocratic regimes now There are plenty of well run countries in the world and practically all of them are democratic|1 Well adjust Not possible to survive nonetheless adjust without income for food medicine housing|1 Im going out because I have a lot of therapy appointments to attend Its a catch22 because if I dont go and stay home to quarantine my mental health will decline and regress back after making months of serious progress Alternatively I can get sick and exposed by going out thus having to do a 2 week quarantine same shit I cant stay home for so long after working so hard to build structure avoid napping etc Ive been on disability for over a year and I NEED to get back to work soon I cant afford to decline and lose progress I really cant This sucks in so many ways|0 For some it already started at least for the Fachhochschulen Basically Universities adding Fach means University of applied some Field mostly Science not like some countries High Schools|0 The overall health of the American public is also dreadful compared to most other countries The mortality rate for Cardiovascular Disease is 10 and 48 of Americans have Cardiovascular Disease That doesnt factor in diabetes and obesity too The mortality rate could be much higher in America We wont know what the mortality rate overall is for some time SARS was below 3 initially and that moved up to almost 10 after all the data was analyzed|0 Meh Some people are net negatives in the world and it is no loss if they dieWith an attitude like that sounds like youre one of those people|1 Hopefully they have supplies stocked up at least Otherwise I think were fucked|0 At the end of Feb some guys were at the Texas furry convention in hazmat suits giving people hand sanitizer funniest shit ever wish coronavirus was still a joke like it was then though|1 Pretty sure it was this case found on Weibo1511202410 Translation On the 15th ShanDong RiZhao has gained one additional case The patient Lius family due to his fatherinlaws diagnosis began quarantine on January 20th During that time no symptoms were presented and they were released of quarantine on February the 4th Ten days after the quarantine was over Liu sought for medical treatment at the fever clinic due to a cough and a fever He was tested and the results came back positive he is now confirmed to be a patient of the novel coronavirus His wife daughter and son are confirmed to be asymptomatic carriersSummary He was under quarantined medical observation released and diagnosed 10 days after he was released from quarantineEDIT MY BAD I didnt read the location properly the OP said Chengdu not Shangdong That case involved a patient who has recovered and discharged and was tested positive again with no symptoms at a follow up appointment during his 14 day quarantine The good news is apparently theres a 14 day quarantine postrecovery too which I was not aware of|1 Lol|1 Well you wouldnt want to spoil a two year olds birthday party right I have fond memories of my second birthday party s|1 Dont be ridiculous they dont mean the absolute numbers havent changed but the rate at which new doctors are added The population of Israel has more or less quadrupled since the 70s|1 Checking people for temperatures is a show measure rather then an actual measure Loads of patients never get to the fever stage and are still contagiousSo if you are going for a showmeasure to set minds at ease just pretend to check temperatures and figure it out along the way whether you can set up the camera exactly right|1 Thank you|1 Be careful about causal arrowsPlaces who are testing a lot of people are places who have reason to suspect an outbreak Places who dont suspect an outbreak arent testing very much Its very important to understand the false positive problem If almost nobody has a given virus and you test for it you end up with more false positives than actual cases Quarantining and isolating and contacttracing false positives ends up diverting resources from actual cases of the disease and the more you disrupt peoples lives for what turns out for no reason the less support you get for things like voluntary selfquarantines when you actually need it|1 My parents are flying out to visit me and my sister and my newborn Im on immunosuppressants They will not be allowed to visit They are 70 years old I dont know what the hell they are doing flying|0 Its definitely likely the symptoms were very mild but asymptomatic and mild symptoms is an important distinction|1 This is why we need something like a temporary Universal Basic Income Andrew Yang wanted to make this a policy But we could really use something like this to prevent a partial collapse of the economy|1 What does it mean We dont want people to take the test if we feel they shouldnt be doing it Huh|0 Did you just say the effects are way too weak Yet it just caused the worst market crash ever and the entire world to shut down Ok boomer|0 Yep The government funds all or most of the research and then companies take all of the copyrights and profitsSocialized risks privatized gains It doesnt have to be this way This system didnt arise from nature People made these policies to be the way they are and we can change them whenever we want|1 I understand Its just sooooo frustrating so many countries just act like they got no issues in their own We all need information so that we can make wise decision wherever we are in the world|1 I think people wanted WHO to release some magic cure and well they cant|1 For me the criticism is that of all the advice they could use this space and funding to announce they choose to send this messageWash your hands should have been way higher on the list Or ten other actually useful thingsInstead they chose That face mask really isnt helping so lets leave it at home to avoid bad optics|0 Yeah but we dont give soldiers swords in the modern era First responders need proper equipment|1 I work on the boarder of CT and MA Just did work from home trial run It was announced that we will only work from home if it becomes illegal on the state or national level for us to come into the office Glad to know the big boss cares about our wellbeing|1 Better than unloading everyone into a giant pile|1 Im not trying to hoax anybody Where in the world can I find people to talk to about this stuff If it keeps getting deleted I will never find anybody|1 Yes well thats something couldnt be helped I dont have the money and she didnt want to spend her own off schedule in how she budgets for things rather than just paying me back later She finally got it today so hopefully all is fine I just wish she would have gotten it earlier for the exact reasons youve stated|1 great to hear such a terrific news|1 Infected people have already flown Whether theyve infected others is unknown but we can feel confident that anyone infected has not become seriously ill at least not enough so to trigger a diagnosis|1 I do agree I feel they could have placed a ban on flying in and out If there are Russians or Americans ect Then test and quarantine them to make sure they dont have corona virus and let them go home|1 Well im not quitting my job And no country has shut down supermarkets so Ill keep working People still need food|0 Thank you so much|1 Hes dead|0 Yes they want everyone to stick their heads in the sand|1 Its interestingId take the money and do stuff that benefitted my country FIRST|1 Yeah she essentially wants Amazon to foot the bill for these essentials then give them all away|1 I love how youve said this in every thread but it still doesnt change the fact that if I miss paychecks I am homeless and if I lose my job I loose insurance|0 Because its possible to get it through your eyes as well People want to be as protected as possible If you were in China with thousands of people infected and millions quarantined wouldnt you be worried and want to stay as protected as possible|1 Im hoping theyre actually testing people who are hospitalised and succumb to the flu but given the scarcity of the tests its easy to see why even that might not be taking place|1 Yep that was the aim all along You can give us some information on when and how here httpsoldredditcomrCOVID19supportcommentsfclaujpreliminaryinterestcheckforgroupsupport|1 This headline contradicts the Chinas richest man donates 1 million masks and half a million test kits to the US does this mean there are less than 500k other kites both available and used Independent labs can currently test 2001000 a day here in Hawaii Im sure you can scale that up at larger big pharma labs dramatically They are restricting test to people who show symptoms and do not test positive for the flu Logical flaw or not this compels my brain to think this is a misleading article|0 I think Trump is truly in over his head this time He only requested 25B in funding to fight the coronavirus pandemic in the US Just for comparison purposes Obama requested 6B in 2014 to fight Ebola and received 54B I think Trump truly believes that this will not be significant in the US Everyone knows he is not one to listen to experts He bases his decisions off of his own perception of things He might think like many Americans that this is overblown just like H1N1 wasDemocrats are screaming for Trump to request more funding Schumer is giving a figure of 85B Trump also thinks this is a political game by Pelosi and the democrats This man is putting American lives in danger right now|1 It wouldnt have worked a anyway most international cases come from Italy Professor Galli from Sacco di Milano keeps saying that the virus came in Italy from Germany even a travel ban would not have saved us maybe it would have saved other countries from Italy tho They should have strongly suggested to western countries to prepare themselves with face masks for everybody and mechanical respirators apparently COVID19 patients require a shit ton more oxygen than other intensive care patients yeah it would have caused a supply problem but it would have been better than discovering it in late february If everybody had a face mask back in JanuaryFebruary we would have really remembered this as just a stupid flu|0 This kind of shit pisses me off Theyre no different than all the billionaires who say fuck everyone else as long as I continue to make obscene amounts of moneyThere really needs to be global agreement on banning this practice and heavy fines andor jail time for doing so Make it so unprofitable for them to do it that they lose money by partaking in it|0 If thousands will attend I doubt youll be able to convince them that cancelling the crawl would be politically better than letting it go on|1 They also pointed out the irony of one of Colvins quotes If I can make a slight profit thats fine he told the newspaper But Im not looking to be in a situation where I make the front page of the news for being that guy who hoarded 20000 bottles of sanitizer that Im selling for 20 times what they cost me|1 6 fatality rate |0 Maybe this is a 5 stages of grief thing1 Denial2 Anger3 Bargaining4 Depression5 AcceptanceThink most of the country has been in denial and the panic buying is moving out of that Social media meanwhile already moved to anger Not sure if Im at bargaining or acceptance Ive followed corona long enough to not be surprised by what is happening but Im still hoping we can do a good job of handling it|1 I think they bumped the number to 19 today and had to acknowledge that a first human to human transmission occurred within the country But yeah this decision is nonsense perpetrated in the name of tourist that will lead people to believe the risk is lower than what it actually is Believe it or not thishttpswwwthaipbsworldcomthailandspmassurescoronavirussituationis100undercontrol was the PM public statement 2 days agoTIT|0 Honestly tho fk China for starting coronavirus They should pay for causing a global pandemic esp CCP for trying to cover it up in the first 2 weeks or so That whistleblowing doctor that stood against Chinas stupid govt is a legend|0 I just need to remind you that youre posting to a group full of people who are concerned and youre getting a lot of echochamber responses I have no idea what your marriage is really like and neither does anyone else Just dont make any rash decisions based on any single thing you read in this post or on the news|1 If I were you Id pick up some hand sanitizer if I were you A lot of pharmacies and stores are out downtown Vancouver My company orders it on a regular basis and now its back ordered for months|1 What is going on in the UK Their rationale for doing Herd Immunity is that for some reason they believe COVID19 will return even stronger in the winter What Is there science to back that up|1 We need to test trace and treat If the first step is missing we fall behind the infection And thats clearly happened For completely nonpolitical reasons Fuck Trump the GOP and every person who continues to support this absolutely depressingly dangerously maddeningly incompetent group of unremarkable old white dudes|0 The info on this sub is helpful to make me feel more informed and not scared I work in a highly populated area with children and am pregnant so Ive been watching it closely|1 This is interesting track of thought Imagine if developed countries realise the shortage of trained workers can cause such issues there might be a willingness to allow more immigrant medical workers from developing countries with huge populations like India China Indonesia Malaysia Philippines This will be thought about in the years to come not this year|1 Its extra good that he did Apperently most people who undergo hospitalized pneumonia the nonmild cases will die within a year|0 Definitely read that in Randy Marshs voice|1 Germany still has zero deaths Good genetics maybe|1 China bad They lied S|0 Im sensitive to smells so I bought Ecos brand cleaner The cities smell isnt too bad|1 To be honest I think the Chinese government right now is more reliable than the Chinese government during the SARS outbreak|1 My daughters elementary school called Coronavirus a scare in an email sent out Not taking it seriously at all|0 Dude I am a human being Dont talk to me like that I am removing comments reported to us to review to make sure they comply with the rules Please dont give me a hard time Thank you|1 Fully agree I work from home a coworker went to the office despite having a cough as she was too scared to lose her job The companies most of them put you under pressure a lot and its a bad thing if youre absent from work because you are unwell Where I work they have a pro presence rule and threaten you if you take sick days People are scared but they should stay home nonetheless|0 Watched it on week 2 of my lockdown here in China to calm my nerves|1 It sucks because even if I were to boycott them for the foreseeable future it would largely hurt the stores not the outlet management company|0 Poverty kills So yeah even after the virus disappears theres gonna be a lot more deaths you can credit it to it|0 It points toward a virus that has spread from an animal source bats this is the information weve received and until proven otherwise I think Im going to put more thought into preventative measures keeping my family safe and what to do if the shit hits the fan Its here aint going anywhere soon|1 Except that the American political system facilitated the US becoming the economic engine of the globe Americans love pretending that things are so tough and everyone is struggling while having a 20 share of global GDP with 4 of global population You can argue about happiness and paid vacation free healthcare etc but it doesnt change the fact that the US is materially prosperous beyond comprehension compared to the rest of the world|1 Yes thats awesome The point is less about the bread itself and more that changes in the availability of certain products dont indicate food shortages So if you were to go buy more flour the King Arthur might not be restocked but that wouldnt be a reason to worry|1 I would argue this is going to hit Trumplandia harder At least people here see it for more than a democratic hoax|0 Thankful for a clinician like this I am under the care at the Seattle VA and needed an Rx refill and I wanted it mailed but the order never was timely placed so the RN said just come to the hospital and get your Rx just make sure I wear a mask if I have symptoms I refused stating that why expose myself to a possible contagion The VA reply on Monday was to parrot some lame CDC advisory they everything is normal|0 Im looking at the 8K infected numbers for SARS with 800 deaths and the 8223 infected with 171 deaths for this CoronavirusSARS took 8 months to infect 8K people this took a bit over a month and while the death toll is relatively low its infection spread is pretty high and that means more opportunities to mutateIm just hoping not to see 64000 cases in the next week or two thats troubling to say the least If it did reach that number than the death toll would reach that of SARS in 12 the timeNot surprised about the h2h transmission here they were together so it makes perfect sense|0 Why does China still have a say in this Taiwan must be included the WHO should not be political Its time to stop playing Chinas game this is what it leads to Im glad Europe is stepping up as wellIIRC PRCMainland China and ROCTaiwan havent even signed a treaty since 1949 so theoretically Chinese Civil War is never ended and both sides are STILL at war with each other|0 Not a rant just confused Isnt there like only 1000 or so with corona confirmed cases so far How is this being a problem for a country with a population of 12 million and rich as fuck|0 None of this has anything to do with the misleading title of the articleAnd Trump trying to cut funding to the CDC is not the same thing as actually cutting funding to the CDC regardlessAnd finally no your note about the PHPR budget is incorrect See page 290 of the CDCs 2021 budget justificationhttpswwwcdcgovbudgetdocumentsfy2021FY2021CDCcongressionaljustificationpdfpage287 specifically the note for the 2018 budget decrease FY 2018 amount is comparably adjusted to reflect the transfer of the SNS to ASPRAs noted the difference in funding beginning in 2018 is comprised of budget that was transferred from the CDCs SNS budget to the ASPRs SNS budget More details here httpswwwphegovaboutasprPagesasprfy2020bibaspx specifically 620 million for the Strategic National Stockpile SNS to manage and deliver lifesaving MCMs during a public health emergencyYoull note that the PHPRs budget plus the ASPRs SNS budget add up to roughly the same amount as the PHPRs budget prior to 2018Youre just spreading more misinformation based on I can only assume glancing over information that fits your narrative with no interest in understanding if its actually correct Please stop Its not only not helpful its harmful And not only are you an irresponsible liar some other irresponsible liar gilded your comment to try to validate your irresponsible lies You people are genuinely ridiculous|0 Awwwww Never heard that one gonna steal it|0 Corporate profits Theyll be fine Its the other 50 of the economy comprised of small businesses|1 I neither find that troubling nor suprising The virus got the best starting circumstances thereI dont think it is just public awareness The were huge festivities where people ate together often from the same pots with the same spoons and people crowded together while doing so And then there was the run on the hospitals Both probably lead to a high number of infections Also sanitation in both cases was probably very bad there was probably not only spread by droplets but to a significant degree also by smear infectionThe numbers we calculate for those times are interesting but probably not very telling for other circumstances and other nations As also the cruise ship is not a good place to learn about the general spreading patterns of this virus unlike many people seem to think infections exploding on cruise ships is a well known problem|1 I just want to say thank you for all the really great work that youve been doing over at BNO Its immense and the information has been really well sourced Im one of those people that do look at them Well done|1 Nah Its just frustrating untill the brick wall falls apart and you can lean in and whispertold ya|0 But keep in mind you dont need beds in an ICU just beds with respirators nearby and a steady O2 supply What you do need is isolation rooms and hospitals generally have more of them than beds in the ICU at least the bigger ones that Ive worked atIf we dedicate a floor of isolation rooms to virus patients that will be at least 75 to 100 people Use the ICUs for the people that are severely ill and need constant monitoringDefinitely not enough by far but at lest its somethin|0 006 in or so around i am confident followed by weird reverse sniffle thing on next word|1 Fake News|0 Hope you trust your neighbours|1 Honestly that sounds pretty good You guys are currently beating the odds ie case fatality rate of 23 The ones in critical condition sounds about right too 20 of all cases will be severe Thats exactly 6 out of 30|0 Im not saying its enough They may need more Its something to be hopeful for that they have two major labs able to test|1 Hes actually been accused of covering up three epidemics in his home countryhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwnytimescom20170513healthcandidatewhodirectorgeneralethiopiacholeraoutbreaksamphtml|0 kellyanne conway hell naw lol|0 Can I join your clan Plz|1 No probably not Safer to cook your own food|0 Heres hoping|1 Do you ever regret visiting that country And will you do so again once everything becomes better I know personally given the human rights violations and them imprisoning two of our Canadian citizens that I would never willingly step foot in that country|0 Again if you get no treatment and you need it you can die even if you are young people spamming this meme isnt useful which is why overload of hospital is bad because under normal conditions young people dont die to it but if they actually need treatment in hospital and there isnt space for them ofc they die|0 Having cousins validate that live in Qom isnt sufficient Noted Ive been adamant to have them validate from Farsi to English and other persons family every suspected video and call Its not China the video isnt blurry and is in Farsi and locals have validated the video tell me whats the next step in validating such|1 What a Cock Junkie he is|0 What makes this virus scary is that it can be minor the first week and there after go crazy like hell and then youre dead|0 Maybe a stupid questionbut if only the severe cases are being reported and testing is not being done on everyone with a cough isnt it likely that the death rate of having this virus is much lower than being reported Making it comparable to flu like death ratesAlmost every member in my family and office has had some sort of cough that lasted several weeks I had an unusual one that lasted 5 weeks and went to the walk in and they said if it gets worse come back but nothing we can do This was directly after being in the casino which has a significant Asian population around the outbreak timeIf the death rate is much lower than is being reported wouldnt there be little to no cause for concern Not trying to start an argument but this seems to be the general feeling that the severity is being exaggerated|0 Yes that was me explicitly saying I didnt have a good handle on the Italian data at that time and inviting help In fact its odd you didnt quote my very next sentence which was Other than that I dunnoI didnt know then And when we dont know we admit it and ask for help And my request for better data was well answered Which is why right next to the link you clicked I specifically noted read down thread for some terrific analysis by others of the Italy dataNot sure how you could have missed all that|1 Its almost like testing everybody is a good idea because asymptomatic people would know to stay the hell away from people|0 Based on how mods act like stereotypical psuedo intellectuals a lot Honestly anything that doesnt match their own personal narrative is most likely immediately removed|1 The Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department is releasing inmates from its jails and cutting down on how many people it books into custody to protect those housed in close quarters from the growing coronavirus pandemicSheriff Alex Villanueva said deputies and police officers across the county have been directed to cite and release people whenever possible instead of arresting them and to seek medical clearance before booking anyone who shows symptoms Countywide he said arrests have dropped from a daily average of 300 to 60 while the jail population was reduced by more than 600 inmatesOur population within our jail is a vulnerable population just by virtue of who they are and where theyre located Villanueva said Monday at a news conference in downtown LA So were protecting that population from potential exposureThe move came amid mounting calls by civil rights advocates and health professionals to reduce the number of people held in local state and federal lockups They raised concerns about the mayhem a COVID19 outbreak could create within the prison and immigration detention system which has been criticized for lacking sufficient capacity to meet inmates medical needs even before the pandemicIts too easy to forget about those who are in conditions that will be a powder keg when COVID19 hits said Miriam Krinsky executive director of the reform group Fair and Just Prosecution who previously headed the Citizens Commission on Jail Violence What the sheriff identified is a good first step but it cant be the only thing that we doChris Beyrer a Johns Hopkins University epidemiology professor recalled the case of a 16yearold Guatemalan in immigration detention who was treated with overthecounter flu medications and died the next morning of acute respiratory distress the same syndrome that makes COVID19 cases so lethalNobody should be being detained for not paying a parking fee or because they are poor and cant make bail Beyrer said We need to be releasing those people yesterdayCalifornia suspended visitation in state prisons Wednesday and over the weekend broadened that to include overnight family visits Sheriffs officials in Los Angeles and Orange counties followed suitSan Quentin State Prison has put some 1800 inmates in quarantine after reports of flulike illnesses within two cell blocks One of those is the reception unit where new prisoners arrive from jailPrison officials said no inmates have tested positive for COVID19 but also confirmed that for most inmates the departments new protocol requires the results of a flu test to be obtained first and if that is negative there is a potential fourday wait for coronavirus results However the policy directs that prisoners 65 or older or those with chronic medical conditions should be considered for immediate COVID19 testingThe Alameda County public defender last week formally asked local prosecutors and law enforcement agencies to shield some 300 medically atrisk jail inmates from virus exposure with a combination of early releases and pretrial diversion programs He also asked judges to suspend the practice of issuing bench warrants for the arrest of clients who dont make their court datesWe are in unprecedented territory and in order to protect our community we are asking for the appropriate authorities to take unusual actions Public Defender Brendon Woods wrote505398lamecoronavirusfirstresponders19ALSjpgOPINIONOpEd Your hoarding could cost me my life a doctors view from the coronavirus front linesMarch 15 2020In Los Angeles County deputies began screening new inmates at its two intake centers the Inmate Reception Center and the Century Regional Detention Facility nearly two weeks agoBefore entering the building inmates were asked if theyve left the country recently or contacted anyone who has and whether they have a fever or any other symptoms Capt Tania Plunkett said last weekA yes answer to any of those questions triggered another set of questions and a medical professional would respond to the parking lot to evaluate the inmate Depending on the outcome the inmate would either be processed into the jail or sent to a medical centerAlthough there are no confirmed cases of the virus in the jails Villanueva said 21 inmates are quarantined at Mens Central Jail five are quarantined at Twin Towers Correctional Facility and nine inmates are in isolation at the Correctional Treatment Center It was unclear how many of them if any have been tested for the coronavirusAll of them are receiving the necessary level of care Villanueva saidHe said that since Feb 28 the Sheriffs Department had reduced the jail population to 16459 inmates including through the early release of inmates who had less than 30 days of jail time left to serveDeputies may now cite and release anyone whose total bail would amount to less than 50000 Weve raised it from 25000 to 50000 Villanueva said Another way were reducing the populationCivil rights advocates last week called for the Sheriffs Department to speed up the release of inmates with 30 days or less left of their sentences and to assess vulnerable inmates including those who are elderly or have an underlying health condition for immediate releasePeople in jails are highly vulnerable to outbreaks of contagious illnesses the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California said last week in a letter to Villanueva The organization said it had scheduled a meeting with the Sheriffs Department on FridayRestrictive responses such as lockdowns would worsen the conditions for those inside putting their health and safety at risk the ACLU wrote The only meaningful way to keep people inside and outside of the jails safe from COVID19 is to decrease the total number of people who are incarceratedRicardo Garcia the public defender of Los Angeles County said in an interview Monday that among his top priorities was to keep people out of custody He said he asked for a review of people who are particularly vulnerable to determine those who can be released under safe circumstancesWe dont want individuals who are particularly vulnerable who are homeless to be let out of jail onto the streets again he saidHe noted that the governor has called on those 65 and older to exercise caution and consider separating themselvesPeople over 65 in jail arent able to do that Garcia saidTimes staff writer Noah Bierman contributed to this report|0 Dont forget chilli powder nasal spray|1 As someone rightly warned here in comments be mindful that shared sauna usage could increase the risks of infection Maybe its wiser to use hot baths if you dont have your own sauna|1 Me working in a hospital like fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck|1 There are quite a few sites saying use lee normally Make sure you carry them with you The biggest comorbidities are high blood pressure and obesity As I know my brother is worried as well As far as I can research so far it doesnt seem asthma sufferers are much more at risk Though some sites say they are I have to say its not massively clear httpswwwasthmaorgukadvicetriggerscoronaviruscovid19|0 I giggled Then coughed just a little bit|1 I heard someone say earlier if borris johnson said the earth was round they wouldnt believe itx200BWe are reaching times where politics is more important than reality to some people|1 If Canada has enough resources to be completely selfsufficient then why does the country run huge trade deficits|1 Im not sure why youre replying to me Did you mean to reply to the comment above Or have I misunderstood what you mean to say to me|0 I have no training and dont know anything about relevant resources but I want to help What can I do|1 Sepsis or death what a difficult conondrum|0 Lol that you think science dictates the decisions being made by moronic bureaucrats And no i trust scientists and frontline MDs who are Gooder at this stuff|1 you are right but i think that most of the people wouldnt understand 50 cases is not much but behind every case are a lot of people that even dont know they are sick and wear the corona virus inside they should have reacted when the critical situation in china got known and every country should have closed their borders to prevent the out break all over the world|0 So true They have such short term thinking|1 I was surprised Disney didnt wait longer|1 Why stop at public shaming when you can burn him at the stake|0 So stunning So brave|1 Exactly what I want to know Theres a fallacy in the logic telling us they are not effective Yes I understand that they collect germs thats the goal Yes I can become contaminated when I take it off But all those germs that are on the mask would be inside my lungs or on my face if I wasnt wearing itNow maybe the small potential benefit is not worth taking the short supply away from those who really need them and Im OK with that but please be honest|1 I work in a hospital but Im not medical Everyone in my office is getting prepared to work from home but I cant because hospital staff need to literallyphysically see me in person in order to fix their problems If I was at home thered be nurses and doctors who cant workThe other day I had to run something over to ICU which was on lock down I visit the Emergency Department twice a day My pay is low I can only afford essentials and Im worried whenever someone from Emergency Deoartment comes inIm in no way a hero but if staff cant access patient records especially during this pandemic that scares me even more Itl be me on my own in the office soon with medical staff coming in and out using my desk|0 Yeah my moms husband is obese and diabetic My mom is obese My wifes dad had a heart attack has severe arthritis cant remember if autoimmune and both he and his wife smoked for twentysome years My sister has had mini strokes from high blood pressure I could see this wiping out most of our family|0 A thought from Italy It started with the small town of Codogno where patient 1 was living They closed Codogno but authorities announced theyd do it the day before so many citizens inside flew the night before bringing the epidemic with them mainly to touristic towns where the wealthy people of a wealthy town had their vacation homes Then authorities went on closing Lombardy but again they announced it the day before so all the people that worked far from home be it towns and cities a few hours away from Milan where they usually commute to to people that moved from the South of Italy rushed to the night trains to go back home bringing the epidemic with it This is how it spread to the whole Peninsula Mind the timing of the announcements because they will be vital on the spread of the virus Think of all the people that moved to NYC from Smallvilles around the US and see how they will rush back with their load because for some reason a small city sounds better equipped to face a deadly epidemic than one of the largest metropolis of the world|1 I SWEAR they have no problems so they run around trying to cause some for themselves It is pitiful You can tell these kids too because they think they are invincible and they know everything Ok boomer|0 Germany is creating money by granting loans through a public bank for 550 billion euros guaranteed by the state is equivalent to printing money It goes in the exact opposite direction to the desired Eurobonds and can mean the end of the Euro as we have known it|1 My country Lmfao ok bitch|1 I hope we are both wrong and I was going to two weeks just based on optimism I fear you are closer to the truth|1 Will they get paid sick leave If someone has the coronavirus they should absolutely 100 follow quarantine orders But Im just wondering if theres anything in place that will protect their jobs while theyre out And what about bills and rent Theres so many people barely keeping a roof over their head as it is and it would be hard to self quarantine while homeless or in a shelter|0 There are no under developed areas here Disney is missing Do you think the most successful entertainment company in the world hasnt figured out what youre saying |1 Him dying has to look extremely bad on the CCP if he is as well known on social media in China as it seems|0 Thank you reallyWe are not an underdeveloped countryDespite heavy sanctions and inefficency we are still alive and working Actually we have great dedicated doctors Most great brains study medicine for freei think in many countries you should pay tuitionThere is lack of some equipment but country is not going to collapse|1 This could be a good explanation|1 Yes and no While they should be trying to minimize damage to the economy as much as possible preventing the spread of the virus should be a higher priority Even from a economy is most important perspective the virus would fuck up the economy worse than any rational measures taken to contain the virusThis would lead to the issues in my last comment among others and could also lead to the virus having increased spread or lethality because of those issues sick person goes to protest and infects other protesters people dying because the hospitals cant get enough supplies because of the shitty economy etc|0 I HAVE BEEN SPAMMING THIS ARTICLE EVERYWHERE YES THANK YOU|1 You can use google righthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBenzalkoniumchloridehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBenzalkoniumchloride Your hand sanitizer has a biocide Its effective|1 Explain to me how you can write a whole post trashing the US government and then say you want them running healthcare|1 Trump the ride operator is more concerned with how many people have bought tickets to the ride than making sure everyone is safe while on it|1 Im not sure were at the stage of this coronavirus pandemic where medical debt is our primary concern|0 lower population and dispersion of that population has an effect especially if healthcare is disproportionate in cost to other services|0 Growing up in Ohio i thought these people were the fucking worst Reality sure has flipped|0 This whole situation is following the shitty story line of a generic disaster movie|0 And why could the US not have supplies and personell ready as well Seems like youre moving the goalposts a little Does country size matter or not|1 And a bunch of friends with guns|1 If the docs who tested are still using the outdated restrictive CDC criteria the number is probably higher I live in Brevard an hour south of where this guy is I work in an ER here and AFAIK during my shift today its still the rule around here They dont want to admit to community spread so testing is only for those with international travel Not sure if contact with confirmed cases counts We had one guy give a sample and then walk when he didnt want to be quarantined|0 Thanks for the good news Needed this|1 I agree we arent seeing the massive hit on health services that we would if there was uncontrolled spreading outside of China but I cant understand why cities in China outside the epicenter have been hit so bad if this thing doesnt spread like wild fire What mistakes other then hiding it initially did China make that we havent They keep locking down more and more cities it is a very extreme reaction if this thing is as low risk as it seems in the West|0 Yeah as of yesterday it was 20 in Washington because so many of the people who caught it were in a nursing home The Villages in Florida is in deep trouble|0 Ahahhahaha this after their greedy asses were going to stay open wtf did they expect|0 Fuckin hell|0 Looks like a new case It was a woman in Northern Ireland there is a case of a man in Ireland httpswwwmsncomengbnewscoronavirusirelandconfirmsfirstcoronaviruscaseasglobaloutbreakescalatesoutsidechinaarBB10zsp3|1 okay thats scary what state are you in|0 Got to keep your biggest sycophant close I dont think trump could operate without a constant ass licking to help him feel safe|1 I would cut the balls of the person that decided that testing is not required|0 Well I mean have you ever SEEN a virus some moron probably|0 Better you infect your family than the entire streetThe benefit outweighs the cost|1 I encourage you to share your concerns with your student council utsuhttpswwwutsuca on the STG campus utmsuhttpsutmsuca at Mississauga campus scsuhttpwwwscsuca at Scarborough campus as well as your programs and colleges student union groups|1 We do laugh at your politics a lot thoughjkThe striking difference is that most people here in Germany seem to distrust anything any politician says while in the states for some reason its always just the other sideIts like that Simpsons Halloween special where Kang and Kodos replace the candidates and Kodos becomes president and in the end enslaved Homer goes dont blame me I voted for Kang|1 Its funny how the media is trying to trick uninformed people into thinking that n95 respirators and surgical masks are the same thing and that n95s wont protect you when they will if it creates a proper seal to your face and know how to properly use it which is just a few taps away People keep saying face masks wont protect you and are only for the sick but they should really be saying surgical masks wont protect but they dont know the difference so they they dont|0 Im 100 sure your mother knows more about the situation that you|1 Id like two guns a container full of milk and a lifetime supply of toilet paper Were gonna have a party|1 i might be wrong but does this mean the virus stays in the air for 3 hours|0 I was in a meeting today with some senior directors and VPs of our company and the first 20 minutes was dedicated to how we as a company are preparing for the inevitable|1 Nah the game had a massive contagious base which was the dollar billsSo its like starting Plague Inc with 10000 infections instead of 1|0 Take it on the chin Please were talking about Disney here they barely turn a profit from the parks in the first place|1 Hey man it was an honest mistake Things are moving fast right now and there is a lot to keep track of I wont be making the mistake again|0 That was my bad attempt at a joke sorryBut most Americans are overweight maybe not morbidly obese|0 Its a noodle country problem Wait does Iran like noodles|0 oh right noooooow the numbers arent trustworthy not when individual crematoriums said they were each accepting more bodies PER DAY than the entirety of China reported dying the illness|0 Wtf has Bezos done in comparison|0 Go on sino There are plenty of people who still trust their govt to one degree or another|1 Yes we are so stupid|0 What about patients who have all the symptoms but test negative on the first try|0 When the dust settles make sure you thank the ccp profusely for all this|1 Just got done watching contagion|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronavirus Germany quarantines 1000 as coronavirus cases push past 50httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfb59wpgermanyquarantines1000ascoronaviruscasesnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 I feel we will need to see how it all plays out to see if he managed to get the balance right We are going to be taking it on the chin I truly do believe that Those in charge of this response will need to be held accountable for their actions as I feel this is going to pretty much be a culling of parentsgrandparents We could push the curve back lockdown now wait for research to come in He is doing a science experiment on the British public instead of trying to actually save lives|1 So disheartening Everyone in there were supposed to celebrate the Chinese New Year but instead they have to suffer like this This celebration event will never be the same for these people ever again|0 I couldnt imagine a worse place to go this weekend than a major American city What happens when the containment starts while youre there and the national guard start setting up road blocks I wouldnt go anywhere unless you wouldnt mind staying there for 20 days|1 Oh hi fellow U studentIm planning to start wearing masks when spring break is over Are Utahns actually mocking people like them cause Im Asian and Im worried of peoples reactions|0 Doesnt italy have the highest elderly population Surely that skews the figures|1 httpstwittercomwojespnstatus1238114778167599110hes even more of an ass than i thought|0 Yeah I wasnt asking about this paper it was just sort of a related question|1 Came out of the supermarket last week and across the street was the dispensary I instantly knew I had to stock up on weed too Once I feel like Im getting too bored being indoors or eating the same foods smoke a little bit and suddenly all food sounds legendary and I get lost in goofy YouTube videos|0 Nice|1 In my opinion there will never be a vaccine for this Maybe an annual shot in a few years And we will get those wrong sometimes The good news is that over time it should get less deadly|0 My local hospital has an exception to the visitation ban for end of life They dont word it that way tho|0 It has big a cowboy boots at the entrance That alone makes it worth it LOL|1 This is outrageous When do we riot|0 For as long as a droplet stays in the air yes|1 WHO is a joke we have been saying this for weeks Corrupt stooges of the Chinese government|1 Thank you|1 I saw one asking why no names of people who had died had been released and asking people to think about it like its all a conspiracy For the record I dont know this person well one of those went to school with them ones|0 Thank you Its a really unfortunate time Someone came in coughing and we basically triple cleaned everything I dont think anyone should be leaving their house if theyre coughing at all|0 Yeah AHHHHH brain doesnt do good in public Now it gets to stay inside where it belongs|0 He is just regurgitating what others are saying so not to panic people Unfortunately the result is people take this less seriously and do not follow precautions No one is making an effort to social distance and many people that have been told to self isolate have disregarded instructions|0 Good point|1 Yet another irrational response The dumb antiscience virus has firmly taken over this Reddit thread|0 Yup and remember that this is just the official number Not counting all the mild untested mild but never suspecting and large group of asymptomatic infections|1 I think you missed your thread |0 Possibly I am not sure He is a uniquely deluded person His coworkers and him believe that it maybe one big hoax He is the most sane out of his group of work friends who also believe the earth is flat reptiles secretly rule the world and Trump is fighting off the New World Order So him and his coworkers may have been mislead intentionally but they are grasping onto distorted information more so than any level headed person would It is shocking because they are medical professionals I think many of them have a hero complex which also adds to their questionable perspective|0 Thats not what was saidThese patients will be kept isolated until mild symptoms pass and then they will be tested to confirm they are negative It is a change of strategy Ruiz Escudero has argued aware that the new protocol will increase the number of people with coronavirus in the Community|0 Yep Im a state employee in Alaska and we are on the cusp of a mutiny Our jobs can be done from home with ease yet our governor is still keeping us from telecommuting even after our division director went to bat for us We work in an area with a ton of foot traffic from citizens and they interact with our front desk staff all day My city just confirmed its first two cases yesterday|1 Im wishing ye good health and fortune Celtic solidarity brother |1 Sure But there are still plenty of polar bears and arctic ice and snow and plenty of rich people buying beachfront properties|1 The paranoia is the worst man My longs feel like they burn as If I coughed for a long time Having this for a week now No fever though But I sleep very bad because of the uncertainty|0 Agree|1 Technically its never the flu China has like 15 flu death last yr or something because the cod is almost never the flu|1 Given one doctor said that he was mixing cauliflower into the Presidents mashed potatoes to improve his diet Im sure theyre trying something to get him tested even without his knowledge|1 Not sure if this is a matter of semantics or a technical fact Im not aware of but it sounds to me like it is airborne for a short period of time If someone sneezes or coughs it will be airborne for some period of time as it falls to the ground or other surface It however will not just hop person to person randomly or hang around in a doorway indefinitely waiting to jump down your lungs|1 Seeing in the same in North Dakota on the grounds that Its not here yet There have been almost no tests Half the people I know still went on St Paddys Day pub crawls the other day And Im still seeing people on Facebook saying its just the flu no big deal Shits rediculous|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Many people cough in the wrong way so we advise against coughing|0 Dont forget to stock up beer also Sit back have a few and ride this out at home Im gonna have a few cases of Corona as a matter of fact|1 I love Reddit Yes you are all freedom fighters against this tyrannous CCP moderator Truly a valiant heros work to harass someone in dms and spam that photo of Xi as Winnie the Pooh|1 UV Light is what you need to clean things It will tear apart the virus molecule by molecule 264 nmhttpswwwamazoncomskuvlight264nmrefnbsbnoss|1 35 people Well thats everyone so I guess Pence was right|1 Working around many different people is something nonrich people do as well|1 What a non answer 2 replies and fail to actually say anything Amazing|1 Maybe you could hold private lessons sanitize equipment between lessons Or even small group classes of 4 people would be much safer for you and your studentsIf you decide that the best way to defend yourselves your students and their elderly or immunocompromised families against the virus is to close down could you make freezing memberships optional Explain to your students that you are afraid that freezing all of their memberships may mean that you lose the business and they lose their beloved martial arts gym instructors Some of your students probably arent being paid either and will need to freeze their memberships But hopefully you have some students with stable incomes who value your gym Do you think they would be willing to continue paying their memberships during the quarantine to cover the fixed costs of the gym and to support you the head coach If you close maybe you the head coach could design custom workouts for your students or livestream athome workout sessions to help your students maintain their physical fitness|1 The audio I cant hear what the woman is sayingscreaming is a mom explaining to her child that they are capturing people who they are sick asking where they are taking her and the kid saying they dont want to be captured too|0 All of us should united as one to fight against the virus Then we shall victory l|1 Some people get lung fibrosis its like a scar on the inside and we know fibrosis just like scar never heals|1 So what were they supposed to do Just let people die Fuck that company I hope they go bankrupt The world will remember what they do|0 What if you dont want to live anymore Asking for a friend|1 They want to depopulate the planet Bill cough cough Gates|1 Go sell crazy somewhere else|0 I heard early on that it was 20 that was getting severe symptoms So 10 sounds a blessing|1 Like others have said the surprising part is the fact that so many are asymptotic|1 I was more talking about how it is ranging from difficult to impossible procuring accurate number of cases onto which you can estimate rates and spread Every country have that problemCDC was unable to produce a standardized nation wide virus test in a timely manner which is a bit alarming of course but to call it a deliberate coverup is jumping a few conclusions too far imo Maybe something will be leaked to prove me wrong but at this point I dont see this as anything beyond an unfortunate mishap that every American has the right to be critical about I cant found a source but I remember reading that China already had a bad track record when it comes to reporting the situation in previous outbreak|0 Im waiting on every media to start throwing the racist and xenophobiclabel at him for said decision|0 Wow sorry I am moron I didnt scroll down through all the other shit to get to the rest of the article Haha Thanks|1 going to be shocking to peopleNot to Redditors here who have been paying attention and can think for themselves Just sayin|0 It is very unlikely that the knock on effects of the virus will be worse than that of closing our borders The stuff you buy at the store does not get there without the involvement of a factory somewhere in Southeast Asia|0 It is also because after world war 2 the soldiers had lots of kids leadings to the baby boomer generation Also the average kid has more knowledge now and there is a proven correlation between intelligence and amount of kids you have Then theres that the cost of raising a kid is very expensive 233000 until 18 NOT including college Makes sense when the median wage is 33000 that not many people want kidsIts a complex issue that involves many different aspects|0 This Some employers would be absolutely screwed if their employees were not tied to them via medical insurance Theyd have to start competing with pay or other benefits AND it gives the added benefit that if youre without a job other than paying bills you dont have to worry about being buried in medical debtIt would change the power dynamic between employee and employer immensely in the employees favorIf anything comes of this COVID19 stuff Im hoping that it steers the USA toward universal healthcare|1 The FDACDC wont allow them to diagnose but they can detect the virus in a sample|0 I was not a fan of Pritzger but hes done a fantastic job helping Illinois with this|1 A family would be interesting But Im ultimately hoping to make it a narrative not a documentary I make docs and really trying to stop making them So much time and effort And even though I get paid making them its still like working a sub minimum wage job notrich|1 Please sign petition to shut down large beach parties for spring break in Texas Gatherings in texas should be limited to 250 ppl but is not being followed Hundreds maybe thousands go to south padre island to party every spring break shut down spi spring break partieshttpswwwchangeorgpeddietreviC3B1oshutdownpubliceventsforspringbreakatsouthpadreislandexpclclsharecopy20850643enUSv4849144257utmcontentclsharecopy20850643enUS3Av4recruiter849144257recruitedbyid4860fb90f77111e7a4c27f123839624futmsourcesharepetitionutmmediumcopylinkutmcampaignpsfcomboshareabiutmtermpsfcomboshareabi|1 Interesting that she started showing symptoms only one day after|1 The sheep only have two settings code white and code black Calmobliviousness and panic Stay frosty|0 Quick update and breakdown of US cases as of 130pm PT on 030220 today format is cases deaths recoveredCurrent total is now 100 cases Diamond Princess 45 0 0 WA 1861 CA 2002 IL 402 OR 300 RI 200 FL 200 AZ 101 MA 101 NH 100 NY 100 TX 100 WI 100Sorry I dont have the deltaSource John Hopkins CSSE mapEdit format|1 Im at Tesco my worry is I literally delivered to a lady with only one leg the other day theres no way she could have brought the shopping in on her own I deliver to a huge number of people who are housebound or physically cant get out of bed I dont know what the solution is for those peopleIll do another run through my emails to see if Ive missed anything regarding sick pay but as far as I know nothings changed and if we take sick leave we dont get paid Its just scary yknow|0 yea if elon wants to help a situation he is arrogant if he does nothing he is useless Lol you people just looking for an excuse to shit on someone|1 You help me by confirming my wechat account|1 Youre wearing it wrong|0 Good luck with that It wont happen unless it is enforced|1 Pasta is always in the house i will go mad without it|0 China praisers arent going to be happy with what you said|1 Or the Sun Definitely warm enough to kill the virus|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I was wondering what the fuck he was on about sombreros for Thought hed lost the plot Just stick to normal terminology FFS|0 YES CDC|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 you will never have 100000 dead cause you do not test the people so yon wont know the number even if people die the reason of their dead will be others like flu|1 Long term lung damage is also scary|0 If youre going to appeal to right wing voters you have to dumb down as much as possible|0 Hi just found this group Is there something I need to do to be able to post Thanks|1 Says right in the article that KimberlyClark moved production out of the US and Trump said its a bad idea to rely on China for medical supplies because if they stop exporting were fucked|0 Not sure how you can quantify those sort of things but say that is the case what good is it if half the country is priced out of that care|1 Countries who are worried about their citizens and trying to protect them from contracting this particular disease should simply implement a ban on all travellers from China to their respective countries|0 Ive bought an oxygen concentrator an inverter so I can run this from the car and can give oxygen on the move and a pulse oximeter My first choice would be to seek hospital treatment if any of us get sick but I worry the hospitals could be overwhelmed or there could be a long wait of many hours to be admitted transported which could be fatal without supplemental oxygenI understand that below 90 saturation is bad but too much oxygen is also bad Im not medically trained At what point would you give oxygen and at what point would you stop Im hoping that I would be just giving oxygen unit help arrived but what if it didnt|0 Thank you for this|1 The problem with most people waiting to stock up is that there will be a collective run on stores similar to what happens before a hurricane This type of panic buying brings out the worst in people and fights break out as the last insert item name here is claimed by multiple people Adding to your preps over a month plus time period allows for you to get the items you need without clearing the shelves|0 And this is why I think the BBC has it just right If everyone hates you then your likely quite neutral overall|0 This is just terrifying|0 There were definitely younger Chinese deaths The youngest was 19 I believe A few 20something doctors died too|0 well there is that|1 Mild is not the same as asymptomatic A slight fever and a cough is mild and for most people does not warrant a trip to the doctor Hell most cases of pneumonia are apparently mild with this virus called walking pneumonia meaning its often not serious and you can walk around and live your life with it One of the thresholds to be considered a serious case note serious not critical is a blood oxygen level of 93 or below Any pneumonia case with a blood oxygen level above 93 is pretty mild Well 93 is sort of straddling the line between mild and medium but its not something which would require real hospitalization|1 If you implement draconian measures and nothing horrible happens its your fault that the economy crashed If you dont then its your fault that the overall situation is horrible|1 I work in a supermarket and even though everyone is talking about it its mostly parents of youngteenage kids really oldsick people and young people who are worriedMost of the people saying to me it only gets old people are 5065 Like theres been 20 and 30 somethings dying plenty of people have undiagnosed health issues and yet I cant imagine how theyre being so arrogant|0 I am appalled at how Texas is handling this whole thing My brotherinlaw found out someone on the floor of his building has it but theyre not testing him or anyone else until they show symptoms Its like they want it to spread The fact that have you traveled out of the country is even a prerequisite anymore shows how out of touch these people are|1 Perfect Thats exactly what we want short of containment or a cure that the population gets it slowly and the health care system is not overburdened|1 Mf anyone calling this the WuTang Flu isnt going to save the world with a vaccine Chill|0 but socialism way easier to disassemble|1 UBI during the crisis isnt a bad idea|0 This is 100 what Johnson wants Look the NHS couldnt cope with a crisis that other countries could Get the private companies in instead so you can have better healthcare Its fucking transparent|1 My parents eat mostly at home but they shop basically every day My mom literally didnt know how to stock up So yes I had to make a couple of large grocery runs for them so they would stay home and stop risking infection|0 Uh are those last two sentences even true Ive heard the contrary the last few days Kids definitely can get it right and since when did we determine it was less deadly than SARS Is his new info|1 Can someone please ELI5 on this|1 Thanks You think it would live on packages|1 Such good news|1 Thanks I think that helps When you feel nauseous its horrible to sit and look at a meal for an hour but to take one bite isnt so bad|1 Uh you know the US didnt fight for independence on its own right France was a vital ally|1 Isnt that what the varicella zoster virus does Gives you chicken pox on the first infection gets beaten down by the immune system goes into hiding in your nervous system for 4050 years then suddenly reactivates and now you have shinglesIn that case however the shingles vaccine can help prevent the reactivation of the virus by reminding your immune system what it looks like|1 I think you missed his sarcasm|0 Doesnt mention much I mean despite saying they lived together It is up to the imagination to think or imagine that they made contact with each other like kissing sharing the same cups etc theres none of that Its scary to think that they made no contact what so ever and he still caught it 21 people under investigation Whose to say the virus is done evolving|1 Man I just started convincing myself I was overreacting|1 Its the trauma center for the Pacific NorthwestEdit Harborview Medical CenterhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiHarborviewMedicalCenter|0 So people are so smart it takes sports stars to tell them what to think Got it Scientists should be the leaders not reality tv stars and multiple bankruptcy manipulators that manipulate the stock market for their buddies with 330 press conferences full of lies|1 Not by cheap labor business wont thrive if there is no supplier that able to give lowest price in the market|0 How could anybody who works for a healthcare organization do something so stupid And apparently this person had contact with their medical students so I wonder if its a resident physician|0 There has never been a formal secession of Taiwan from China Both the PRC and the Taiwanese government claim to be the rightful government of both the mainland and Taiwan If Taiwan declared a secession from China this would be more clear cut but since they didnt it looks like they are recognizing two rightful governments of China Its a huge ordeal to navigate Hopefully the WHO just tries to stay non partisan and still work with Taiwan|1 You can see how nuts exponential 20 growth per day isSmall nit isnt this 20 compounded daily growth|1 I feel like this dude had to cough so bad while he was speaking and kept holding it in It was painful to listen to|0 course also not worse than seasonal flu if we do not account for failing to respond to antivirals|1 Many thanks for you response My frustration is that the advice is Stay home until it is time to not stay home Which I get will be the absolute best advice for 80 or more percent of the cases What Id like to know about is what if someone needs medical attention but the system is swamped Cough medicine and analgesics check What if it gets worse and one cant go to a hospital|0 Wow Strike that off my list of places to visit|1 They were lucky it was still a smaller sub I feel like the switch happened a week before it all blew up|1 Ill sign but I feel like they cant even report the accurate s because they dont have enough test kits yet to even give an accurate What if this thing has been around months but it went unnoticed or thought of as normal flu I feel like this virus might be here to stay and we should be focusing on trying to stop its fast spread Things like concerts and convention center meetings getting canceled is helpingBigger annual gatherings Also companies that can afford to work from home Schools getting closed down These should be looked as precaution and not to be looked as panic mode from the public|0 How do you see through that Images through plastic bottles are warped and messed up|0 Yes because people never cough when they walk down the aisle sAlso touching a flight attendants hand when they give you food or waterNah two rows sounds fine who cares|1 exactly it becomes easier we will see in months to just presume everyone has the virus we really need a vaccine and hot weather This stalling stage is to stop mass panic so people do not start rinsing shopping malls but can you imagine if whole police departments get infected this is not good|0 Doing gods work op Can hospitals use n99s do you know I could donate some of those I was saving them for family but its looking like they will more than likely stay home when shit hits the fan As a bit of a prepper I have the whole Shebang to go out in if it came to that|1 Depends how busy it is If you cant comfortably stay 6 ft2 m away then I wouldnt Or maybe go earlier in the morning when its less busy This also depends on how young your child is Are they touching handlebars and then their mouths Can you wrangle them to wash their hands frequently One teacher was stamping her students hands and if the mark was gone by the end of the school day they got a prize Maybe implement something similar to get your child excited Again depends on age and complianceThere are lots of resources online now about activities for children If your sidewalks arent busy take a walk If youre indoors maybe work on a history project read give them daily chores etc I encourage you to do some googling and get creative One thing I saw Kristen Bell repost washttpswwwinstagramcompB9x6vlJEYxigshid9rcuhltw35x8Hope that helps This is a tough time for all of us Decreasing the spread right now in the early months will decrease the need for restriction down the road Doing your part now while it may seem extreme will help so many Thank you for reading|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I will be messaging you in 7 days on 20200321 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help each other|1 We had three new cases here yesterday All three traveled One to Spain one to the UK and one to Barbados So we seem to be getting the reports honestly What I am concerned about is all the other people who were on the plane with those who flew back from those locations and then tested positive|1 Herd mentality When enough people quit giving a fuck and wear their masks itll become normal Really though when dealing with a global epidemic dont let everyones normalcy bias affect your intelligent response Theyll catch on Many will die before it happens but survival of the fittest is real Fuck it 50 of people are dumber than average Not your job to enlighten them|0 Def economic growth think about it if people starts becoming unemployed economy crashes unrest will increase drastically Potentially threat to CCP powerBut if people die from virus nah we didnt create the virus and considering how much propaganda is out there its not hard to redirect the uneasy feeling about outbreak to somewhere else other than the CCP Bescially choose the one with less likeliness with people to rise upThis is exactly why they are urging people to go back to work in China right now even thought hat increases outbreak spread|0 still better than Whole Foods Donate a sick day policy|0 YES yes and yesnasty to get sick while having these|1 This is the knowledge and information age If hospitals start preparing so do the people They couldnt have prepared any sooner than they did And it just isnt cost effective to have a pandemic supply stash just sitting around like that unfortunate In an ideal world they would be getting proper funding and companies wouldnt be allowed to jack up prices for shit to extort insurance companies But thats the way it works|0 Theyre fighting against having to do even that|0 I think it was a valid question though its not clear whether theyre talking about hundreds of people sick tested selfreporting or what else|0 It was so easy to criticize China for lack of transparency and being slow to respond to the COVID19 outbreak Now that the shoe is on the other foot how does it feel|0 Youve provided no logic at all You act like this illness is no big deal and that we should just go about business as normal If we do that millions will die If anything the media took too long to respond to how serious this isSo provide some evidence that this illness doesnt exist doesnt kill people and that this recession is going to benefit media moguls|0 No Flights are being cancelled left and right If she leaves the school shes at and goes into Beijing or Shanghai to fly out if her flight is cancelled anywhere along the way she will not be allowed back into the school She would just be out on the street with nowhere to go|0 Because theyre blindly going to work while playing with fun new toys that come out in between to keep them temporarily happy stupid and quiet until the next one comes out Love it here doesnt mean theres no room for improvement and cultural growth|1 lolIve never been as happy about the no skinship in Japan than after I started work and seen how dirty some guys are when going to toiletReally glad we dont handshake but became a germaphobe when seeing a guy giving folderspapersequipmentsnacks after seeing them leaving the toilet without washing hands |1 Probably for longer than just somewhere in January This cat was well out of the bag months ago|1 After looking at all the data and case studies then comparring that with my families past medical historyA realistic analysis of our situation should Corona Virus go epidemic in our community I stand to loose seventy percent of my family because of underlying and comorbid conditions My wife about forty five percent of her family due to age and comorbid conditionsSimple reality|0 All information pertaining to corona needs to be cleared by MIKE PENCE|1 Not baffling Governments want public displays of cleaning effortsWhich means blocking traffic to spray roads because they already have machines for watering roads and gathering efforts on hightraffic areas such as intersectionsIts all about the theater|0 Youve got to be kidding me Profits over people|1 Im doing good a bit nervous but Im 27 and not in a high risk group Im also healthy but thin so being thin concerns me Il more worried for my parents my dad with a cardiovascular issue and my mom with diabetes I hope they pull through fine I was also making myself laugh thinking about how people made such a big deal about the 2009 H1N1 because that pandemic has got to be the lamest pandemic ever We were all lucky that time and I realized that strain actually had less of a mortality than even seasonal flu It made me feel a little bit better thinking about that pandemic I also remember a vaccine was quickly produced for that pandemic as opposed to this one which may have choked off its spread Nothing in my state closed or shut down for that outbreak I remember going to school and everything|1 This is amazing Id love to comment now do this for cancer but the market forces are beyond me Keeping this on topic is this public or do you have to be a scientist to gain access|1 Idk I just looked up the weather for Sarasota this week and thats what I saw|0 Now it is It wasnt prior to the issue that happened They own it Because of the scare they aquired them recently and if this whole issue hadnt happened they wouldnt own JUUL|0 As far as they know Well see if theres a followup story|1 Good bot|1 Yeah it is we dont care about the EU we care about the UK and as such we are more lenient towards them No doubt this is a scapegoat to show our support for the UK but so what|0 My state supposedly only has two cases both about a two hour drive from meI had two people call in today with the flu People hardly ever call in with the flu especially at a normally lowerrisk time like March And their flus were fever and sore throatCould be flu or could be a new virus some fuckfaces in Washington decided not to prepare for|0 How nay one can backup when there is no democracy or media freedomThe reason i am afraid is India have 6000 people stuck there and with latest reports of Paksitan reporting more than 100 positive cases who returned from Iran obviously we can make connections|1 Our 7 yr old had influenza A 4 weeks ago and just tested positive for B last week No one batted an eye at a kid getting two different flus back to back They played it like it was the norm this time of year I know AB are going around but what are the odds of someone getting both back to back I dont understand what youre trying to convey by adding no one batted an eye and they played it like it was the norm It seems like youre trying to uncover some conspiracy theory Or you think theres something being hidden although you got diagnosesIn any case Im sorry youve been going through all this Im sure it hasnt been fun|1 Your contribution to the survival of humanity will always be remembered doc May your soul rest in peace|1 Even at 2 or 3 months i think there is a big chance that the economic disaster would cause more deaths than the unmitigated disease would|0 Washington won it back in the afternoonDo not make it like a match|1 Capitalism will never stop for a virus|1 This is why I love reddit because even though this virus has the potential to wreak havoc globally there are these amazing people who can give me a bit of a laugh in worrying times|1 Yes they do tests on potentially critic cases indeed|1 Im not sure that the benefits will outweigh the consequences|1 That would be a much better type of Corona season|1 Following I would love to know Ive tried everything and cant get people around me to take this seriously|1 And if they announce a shut down and it isnt effective immediately there will be a rush on the businesses shutting down just like grocery stores saw when the numbers increased|1 Umm somebody please explain According to recent numbers the US has twice the death rate as predicted We are seeing a reported death rate of around 6 I thought this version of coronavirus only killed 2 at most|0 Hotels never close I worked in one that had a freaking fire that burned a couple rooms and they still didnt close I also worked in one where someone drowned in the pool and it was open the next morning|0 Here in Bergamo and Brescia the hospitals are pretty full but on a national scale theres some more room Beds are being added daily tho and patients are being transferred to other provincesregionsAs for the demographics Lombardy is pretty much on par with other regions regarding age distribution although healthcare is quite a bit better|1 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpswwwcnbccom20200306doctorwhotreatedfirstuscoronaviruspatientsayscovid19hasbeencirculatinguncheckedforweekshtml reduced by 94 Im a bot Part of the problem ComptonPhillips said was the CDC039s delay in getting testing kits to local health agencies and its reluctance to test patients who hadn039t traveled to Wuhan China Some hospitals still haven039t instituted strict isolation protocols for everyone being tested and some state officials are even starting to relax hospital quarantine rules for patients who test positive State health officials said a California patient was not under quarantine as doctors appealed to the CDC to test herExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsfej7k3doctorwhotreatedfirstuscoronaviruspatient FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 473619 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords test1 patient2 state3 Health4 officials5|1 For real people encouraging this kind of thinking are idiots Im sorry but saying you can come up with a design for a respirator have random people produce the parts in their garages assemble them and have them used by RTs around the country is just as idiotic as trying to get a man on the moon from your backyard Is it theoretically possible Sure Is it likely to succeed No Its a waste of time|0 The optics here are terrible|0 I like the idea of simplifying it to people whos medically illiterate but this quiz has inherent flaws You should call your PCP at the onset of any symptoms relating to COVID19 and let them know whats going on Depending on what state testing qualifications are still strict so you might not be able to get tested but talk to doctor to get a full idea of what symptoms to look out for and when you should call for hospital admission And when you think you need to go to the hospital dont just show up at the ER Call the facility ahead of time so they can prep a good iso standard for you Dont just show up at the ER like a bunch of idiots are doing|1 And then point to their good friend or family member who just so happens to be offering a similar job for the government to step aside and give authority tooIts not just about government bad its about privatization its about giving as many government positions and responsibilities to corporations of their allies as they can Because a corporation is not held to the same standards of democracy or a responsibility to the people as the government isThey do it because privatization gives them absolute control without any accountability for the citizens thrust into a captured market|1 Godspeed to you This country thanks you|1 grab an old coolwhip container and wash your ass with water and your handsfilipinos have been doing it for decadesour asses are cleaner than people that only use tp|0 Pay To Live|0 This is still a great thing for the business owner to do and they set a great example for those franchises|1 I am 65 and have an autoimmune disorder I take medicine that reduces my immunity I want to stop taking them but then my arthritis will get really bad I figure we are pretty much on our own unless we are at deaths door And even then they might decide we are not worthy of a ventilator I have had pneumonia before Im prone to it Ive ordered this lung exerciserhttpswwwamazoncagpproductB00FE8N7Y4refppxyodtbasintitleo01s00ieUTF8psc1People with asthma and COPD use them I figure it cant hurt|0 A lot of players will likely find a spot with multiple stops and chill out in their car Youd be amazed at the amount of efficiency combined with laziness players lean towards|1 I am in the same position I am being told to check myself into a mental hospital I finally went crazy|0 Yeah I thought that was a bit dramatic We might not have seen worse our lifetimes assuming most people on here arent very old but London definitely hasI guess it did literally burn at least once but it came back from that too|1 Leung seems like a pretty smart dude I imagine if his earlier estimate ends up being way off hell publish something showing a new estimate Im not saying I think his predictions are perfect but I liked the approach I dont think Id say I dont believe any of Chinas data I just dont think their published case numbers are useful at all for the purpose of modeling the actual spread of the disease and that seems so obvious to me that its hard to see why there are so few people who seem to share that opinionOne option of course is that I have no idea what Im talking about and I dont think thats necessarily unlikely But so far I still have faith in myself on this one I think its next to impossible that there are really just a few hundred cases in Chongqing and that the daily peak there is in the past Do I think Leungs prediction will be 100 accurate No Im sure he doesnt either But I definitely dont believe the saturation point of this virus in Chongqing can be in the hundreds of patients|1 The US will fare worse than Italy because we dont have a national health system like Italy does Working poor and some middle class people in the USA simply cant afford medical care|0 Were already working to mitigate that risk httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvaNSYuY6N1Rs|0 So the virus started to speak Now i can start worrying|0 Thank you my son|1 Im surprised he hasnt realized fiscal stimulus is one of the best ways to boost the markets He got the tax cut side of it maybe he just cant stand spending money on commoners|1 This should be the top comment|1 Yeah well he is the last man on Earth so I didnt spoil much Thats kind of a given|1 Thank you very much|1 Fuck|0 Its not a money problem nowIts a supply problem now Masks factories globally are overwhelmed by orders and their production even at 120 arent going to make enough masks to fulfill orders Hearing from friends trying to acquire numerous boxes enough for entire buildings corporate purchase for their entire company the backlog is at least 3 months to half a yearThere is not enough masks around the world to meet the advocacy by so many that EVERYONE SHOULD WEAR MASKS EVERYDAY Its not doable x200B Mike Bowens been a very busy manHes executive vice president of Texasbased Prestige Ameritech one of the few manufacturers of respirators and surgical face masks still making them in the United StatesIve got requests for maybe a billion and a half masks if you add it up he says Thats right 15 billionSince the coronavirus httpswwwnprorgtags162395868coronavirusstarted spreading in January Bowen says hes gotten at least 100 calls and emails a dayNormally I dont get any he says httpswwwnprorgsectionshealthshots20200305811387424facemasksnotenougharemadeinamericatodealwithcoronavirushttpswwwnprorgsectionshealthshots20200305811387424facemasksnotenougharemadeinamericatodealwithcoronavirus|1 Pray you dont come out to a zombie world|1 Damn it we should have done that FEMA|0 Only 4 of COVID patients get infected throat and sinuses stuffy nose etc Its typically a lower respiratory tract diseaseNone of this clearly identifies your coworkers as having this or that strain but in terms of probabilities it might be seasonal flu Which still sucks who wants the flu But it happensKeep in contact with her and act accordingly Unfortunately being scared or not makes no difference only being strategic and consistent Monitor yourself and move on with your life Just remember 80 of infections with COVID are symptomfree or mild|0 Lol at first I thought you might be a relative but Ive no idea what a corona party is|1 Theres probably a significant amount of competent printers on reddit of all places but yes their efforts would be best utilized under the guidance of a formal organization|1 A person testing positive equals one case|1 so what is the correct assessment of the risk in your opinion edit that I am downvoted like that just shows how much of a panic circle jerk this sub is haha|0 Yes Im aware I just didnt think the Korean company got the approval in such a short time|1 All the EXPOCON and the like gatherings will be canceled in the next 2 months at least From games to comics to armsweapons and brooms etc|1 Omg This couldnt be going worse|1 Ok this made me chuckle|1 No he won because idiots fell for lies like idiots Trump and the propaganda backing him convinced you that in spite of decades of proven experience and qualifications for some reason Hillary wasnt a viable option She didnt campaign on gender neutral bathrooms or racial politics that was a tool from the right to try to make the left look silly and out of touch and you bought it hook line and sinker See the problem is that to you a proper candidate is one that you think people will vote for For me a bad candidate is someone who cant do the job Dont blame the Democrats because a bunch of gullible rubes arent able to make decisions according to their best interests|0 Mike Tyson wont dare bite off a ufc fighters earNot that hes scaredhe just hates cauliflower|0 Seriously At 36 I think I have finally learned people just refuse to learn If they believe something no amount of information converts them Nothing Not videos not CDC articles showing the SARS outbreak was contained due to no asymptomatic transmission not seeing China lock down millions nothing And their inability to adjust might cause worse panic and costs I cannot even get family to wear masks around me so I am just avoiding them as best I can It is just sad|0 Happy cakeday|1 Dude this is Reddit where its a game to see who can blame America the most|0 Yeah im still trying to figure this out as well Amazons supply chain and logistics bleeds money But cutting out all the bullshit items and only bringing in certain items depending on certain costs I suspect this will actually save them money To your point though it really depends on how much money it costs shipping wise for these items The numbers side of me is super curious how they do this first quarter and more specifically this month|1 I used to work at a computer factory near my town that assembled industrial computers for different customers Well majority of the systems we got were already assembled fresh out of Taiwan only thing we added was the CPU ram SSD I wonder how bad its going to hit them I am kinda worried for them because it was a nice workplace Although pretty small which could increase the risk of bankruptcy|1 How does that compare to the normal flu|0 Dont forget to store enough tablets|1 That is the truth I will watch the news and they will report stats that are 24hrs old It has to be intentional as it is NOT hard to look up the current numbers within seconds|1 Being in the uk Id sooner trust the scientific press especially learned societies over newspapers with political motives|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Right Luckily Im niche carpentry so worst case I frame houses or construction or something just outside me wheelhouse But other skilled workers My hearts out to you guys|0 Im not concerned about staying home Im concerned about economic impact supply chain problems and hysteria Particularly when people start getting hungry Definitely concerned if martial laws comes and they start taking guns|0 It would be great if comments like this were removed so this sub could stay scientific|1 No doubt we all hate Cuomo His policy sucks But there has never been any doubt hes an incredible and decisive leader|0 So its even worse than spending the into the system Instead of backstopping overleveraged scumbanks etc with bonds why not backstop the workforce that keeps everything working|0 this whole reply reads like you dont understand the basics of english|1 Oh wow that is rich Call me paranoid but Im starting to think he wants the virus to spread in the US Dont ask me why because I honestly have no fucking clue|1 I used to like playing Plague Inc but dont need to now Too real |1 You will be fine You sound healthy Im anxious too and around your age I keep telling myself I have no health conditions aside from my thyroid that I take medicine for Im a runner too we have strong lungs I remind myself that I didnt run all those miles for nothing And you have your kids and they will help you Sending you all the vibes|1 Does Italy do one or two updates a day Because this is quite a drop from yesterday|0 Yet the economic fallout of a prolonged quarantine more than a couple of months will have considerably worse consequences than 19 million deaths worldwide As sad as that sounds|0 Thats a whole other can of worms Depends on lab producing the generic Check out Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban|0 Sounds like my boss I said my housemates parents both got Coronavirus and be was sleeping there last weekend so hes self quarantiningHe said are you sure you should work from home next weekI still dont know why he wants me in the office when theres a chance of coronavirus in my house|1 Im guessing govt plan essentially is to lock down everyone and wait for die off Both infected and desease Thats how quarantine works Sadly theres nothing else to do After a couple of months those survived would go around and collect the dead from homes and appartments What possibly else you could do|0 FYI far left publications like BuzzFeed News and HuffPo have been pushing out ageist ok boomer articles for a whileI agree theyre part of the problem|1 The flu vaccine isnt a completely new vaccine every year They know how to make it they know all of the components This is nothing like the yearly flu vaccine Making a novel vaccine is not trivial If it was we would have had an HIV vaccine decades ago|0 Be sure to let us know the results|1 Singapore is considered borderline authoritarian limiting freedom of speech and press They have very strict law enforcement Competent authoritarianism is very useful in crisis but not always fun to live under They are not a dictatorship but more of a meritocratic authoritarian keeping competent people in power and corruption low with strict law enforcement Basically as long as you are able to stay on the straight and narrow its not too bad but if you make mistakes in your life you are in bad trouble|1 mexican here we got a breain dead old man as our president as well I feel your pain|0 Agree If they did a great job then why the fuck is it spreading to other provinces and across the globe|1 It isnt but I need to know what volume I should be screaming at|0 I think its irresponsible to portray it as a serious risk to young people Italys mortality rate for under 40s is less than 03 percent while over 65s its 7 I can understand wanting more people to take it seriously but overselling the risks is another way to get people not to trust you The government told people masks arent effective so they could save the stock of masks for doctors and nurses despite them working well to stop it the spread and now people just dont trust the CDC along with a myriad of other underestimation issues We need accurate information now more than every we dont need scare propaganda stupid people are not going to listen to matter what we say with the president underplaying everything like he is The only thing dramatic scare propaganda can do is make people lose trust when they learn the truth|0 I for one welcome our robotic overlords|1 Ugh I know right Im so hyper sensitive to anyone sneezing and coughing and Im so much happier at home away from it all Hope your ask is received well|1 Yes its their plan At best they think they can level the curve better by bring that too of the curve early by 1 or 2 weeks so they therefore extend the leveling period by that one or two weeksThis is a strategy that requires them to time it perfectly and declare an extreme lockdown on exactly the right day If they are 3 days late they will have twice as many infected people as they intended and the effect of that will last for weeks because the average hospital stay is 10 to 12 days They must do this using infection numbers that are a week or two after the actual time of infection and insufficient testing regimes The strategy forfeits any benefit that the current research on treatment strategies vaccines and everything else could bring The research on treatment strategies may prove very useful and results will come much earlier than a vaccine will A vaccine may be ready for use in the highestrisk population within months it will take several subsequent months to produce enough for widespread use in the general public It also forfeits any chance of increasing hospital capacity and putting people through a rush training in basic quarantine and medical assistance so they can assist medical workers It also forfeits the ability to make impromptu quarantine centers like China did but thats only really done in containment phases And most importantly they are taking the Coronavirus hitnat the same moment as the standard flu hit everyone else is trying to delay it until summer when hospitals will have the most capacity for itThey are doing all this because they assume they cant apply measures like China or Korea even if they wanted to but this also means they wont be able to clamp down when they need to So they are basically assuming the population wont go along with any plan unless everyone sees it as a dire situation People wont see that until it is already too lateIm not an expert on this but I think it is a catastrophic strategy They MIGHT get some benefit by bringing the peak a week or two early but the associated risks are giganticTLDR they are trying to MinMax on their first run with no buffs and after briefly skimming a strategy guide|1 Yes Im sick of being mocked about it to be honest Tried to warn family members and tell them to prepare I cant do anymore People are gonna have a big shock Well be one of the countrys that come worse off people are so dumb and arrogant cant see past the end of their nose|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 No everyone puts their soda bottles in the recycling but then one dickhead recycling plant decides theyre not going to recycle that material anymore because its not as costefficient so they send it all to India where someone tosses it into a big pit which then gets washed out to see during the next monsoonThats how this shit works|0 My grandma is 82 and lives in Washington Shes in good health for her ago thoughso i guess there is that|1 Thank you fellow redditor Stay safe out there|1 Uh yeahYou do realize that having the worlds supply chains severed abruptly is gonna result in at least a moderate global recession in the near term right|0 Similar here we need masks to operate Our main suppliers have stock but they are all saying nothing for the public nothing for us All incoming supplies and existing are being earmarked for Healthcare use onlyFrom an operations POV its annoying But on a personal level im proud that people have made that decision and are making sure that the right thing is being done before being made to|1 Well keep us posted Hope its just the flu and not the Corona and hope you are feeling better soon|1 We dont need more imported cases Dont even suggest it here How would you like if we send troves of virus stricken people to your country and if Singapore is your country I cant believe you even said it|0 Maybe Im just missing those but I check this sub often but Ive rarely seen a comment like this Usually 34 death rate but never consider the hospital saturation rate|0 I fear that it will be one of the sorriest episodesYes because tests kits were unavailable in February and people hesitate to go to the ER with the huge copayment if they get pneumonia|0 I wanted to follow live number virus cases changes somewhere but it is hard to follow new cases when all new numbers everywhere are updated in batches so being developer Ive decided to develop twitter bot and push updates when new data arrives maybe someone will find it useful or you can suggest format on how it should publish things online httpstwittercomCoronaSpreadhttpstwittercomCoronaSpread|1 Its amazing|1 Every democrat in my town is rooting for the economy to collapse somehow so it will finally look bad for Trump So yeah If you dont think the unellected democrats in government arent trying to sabotage the Trump presidency in ends justify the means ways youre not paying attention|0 Yup I agree Seems like the mass of Americans are actually very uninformed about the virus itself Idk how I feel about sports being cancelled though Baseball szn is so close and NHL playoffs are coming up |1 Really puts things into perspective heartbreaking to lose a family member I couldnt imagine a situation where you risk losing almost all family members|0 What never done surgery to a rocket before I mean I did and all 3 patents died but mistakes happen|0 My friend early 30s lived in Seattle and came down with a bad cold and died last week Still no cause of death but testing for Coronavirus|0 Badass|0 Yes this annoys me so much Flybe were already in trouble|0 Soccer is always the pain spot for our Chinese people Table tennis is another story tho |0 dude thats not why theyre closing schools please read literally any post on this subreddit|1 Its election year baby you cant count on him not pulling a few desperate surprises out of his hairpiece|1 I should clarify I was really referring mostly to the US Implementation of the necessary emergency laws is going to be a nightmare with all the guns in society virtually impossible|0 true but then thats just semantics right The overall gist of it remains absolutely plausible|1 Thanks this is really helpful in understanding the comment it was very confusing because I know we are concerned and taking action Much appreciate your input|1 Take me by the hand take me to the land|1 Oh yeah the frozen section was pretty much empty Apart from the free from section never been so happy to be gluten intolerant|1 Going off of the original SARS outbreaks popping up outside the original epidemic location are to be expected Only in the wildly positive like 90th percentile best case scenarios does something the size of Chinas SARSCoV2 outbreak not result in any secondary firesAlso keep in mind the scale for SARS Hong Kong ended up having 1755 cases Taiwan 346 Canada 251 and Singapore 238 and a smaller but earlier cluster of 63 cases in Vietnam Seems relatively likely Iran SK will have 1K cases at this point not really sure about ItalyWell have a better read on Iran South Korea and Italy in another week I wont be at all surprised if another 13 other countries join them and report local outbreaks in the next few weeksLooking on the positive side Singapore and Hong Kong had many early cases but now mostly seem to be in the few cases a day range which is manageabletrending towards containment like most of mainland China outside Hubei|1 I refuse to believe that all the people in charge are just dumb despite every specialist telling them thats super dangerous to respond this way and having seen how things panned out in ChinaThis is on purpose|0 very sad and disappointing indeed|0 It seems that the specific sticking point is the FDA Going up against the FDA can lead to jail time under federal charges loss of licenses etc so its easy to understand why there havent been many labs willing to defy the feds by doing their own testingThe main problem with the CDC is that they have been doing hardly anything to facilitate matters The whole point of the CDC is to act as an effective coordinating body during a medical crisis It ought to be their job to help sweep the usual FDA regulations aside if thats what the emergency calls for|0 They do not keep 90 of revenue they keep 90 of the profitThe profit margin at a fast food restaurant is only about 12 of the revenue|1 Got a car accident a heart attack pregnancy complications an overdose a stroke a septic infection from stepping on something sharpThose might be perfect comorbidities when you get into a hospital overspilling with corona cases|0 Nobody is taking it seriously My social media feeds are flooded with people posting pics of themselves at crowded bars movie theaters the mall Everyone is out having a grand old time Meanwhile Im immunocompromised and am staying home too scared to leave the house except for necessities like grocery and pharmacy runs The general public is putting so many people at risk|0 I got a conspiracy theory for you What if Russia smuggled infected pangolins into Wuhan right by their bio lab Cant imagine they havent been playing with samples of SARS The illegal wildlife trade would make a great way to do it too since it would go under the radar Fits with their whole do anything as long as you have deniability strategy tooLets not forget that Putin probably wants to retake as much of eastern Europe as he can before he dies This would helpBut again Conspiracy Theres no evidence Just my deep cynicism wanting to game out the worst timeline I dont believe it myself but I wouldnt be surprised at this point|0 Probably because youve never been quarantined This guy was probably asymptomatic and had been basically in jail for weeks Then the authorities tell him that hes good to go Of COURSE hes going to go somewhere with people|1 Its perfectly fine to go on a cruise you just wont be able to get off of it|1 Wait what Is this an American joke Im too European to understand You pay premiums for insurance cover yet you still have 5000 excess Where I live now 5000 would cover my medical bills and then some How is it Americans fight tooth and nail against our commie healthcare for all system|0 Sounds like hes winning|1 If you want that percentage low to calm down yes But it also increases the overall amount of people who are infected In Italy the majority of serious cases are old people It started as in the first cases known in a rural area Older folks with houses gardens ect They probably got it from their childs and grandchilds which were on holidays in the skiing regionsEven when the mortality falls there are much more infected around which dont feel hospitalworthysick and which can infect others who will become serious cases|0 Right now but its almost certainly going to be expanded|1 Please explane|1 Sweet Glad to see were following our S Korean buddies example at least in Seattle|1 Not true If you use the word severe it means its in the severe category Full stop|0 I meant all govts as a whole in general but ya same thoughts and agree|1 AB is universal receiver O is universal donor Disregard I miss read the comment|0 Were awful at them Weve managed to bring back Measles|0 I think there was a certain Vladimir Lenin who predicted this|1 So the American government lied and suppressed the truth and now more people are going to die Isnt that the more honest and straightforward way of reporting this Why beat around the bush|0 Same here had linked articles showing info being shared was wrong and today didnt agree Worst bit is the info was rebutting some dangerous ideas|0 The doctor I saw that cleared my of the flu strains and strep told me if my fever stays above 103 I can go to the ER for further evaluation I originally called Tarrant countys coronavirus hotline and they told me to go to the doctor to be cleared of everything first and then that doctor could call the same hotline if they felt it warranted further evaluation and apparently that doctor does not I dont feel the need for emergency treatment at this time so I have not gone to the ER but will if I get any worseI work from home so Ive imposed a self quarantine for now but I know not everyone can do so as easily and thats scary|0 Im going to die too so you are not alone and there are many more |0 And most people will forget about it quite soon so someone needs to fill their portion|0 Self quarantine for mild or moderate symptoms is the safest way to curtail the spread If people flood the hospitals the hospitals will not be able to function Check out the Wuhan footage of people storming hospitals and how that created more problems and more viral spread|1 Deleted I assume bad info I was shocked as well|0 These are the numbers given by the TOP scientists in the field of infectious diseasesYou need to wake the fuck up dude|0 Exactly I have a lot of people out using their PTO and sick time We took off the requirement to give appropriate notice to use PTO Unless we get a clear directive that we need to do more a company our size can not just let people stay home We are in specialized retail sales I would like to do more but I also have to make sure that everyone has a job to come back to when this is over We need a clear directive on either the State or Federal level that lets us know what is expected of us and what relief will be given to see us through Without that showing up to work is required if you are sick or uncomfortable hope you saved your vacation time Good luck|1 the noise when he takes a breath is making me uncomfortable|0 A lot of people wont start until it starts spreading in their country Then another lot until it starts spreading in their city I dont want to have to be around either of those groups|0 Like I said recently too bad Trump thinks its so entertaining to go out of his way to be a total prick to over half the country Hes has so little goodwill and hes done it all to himself His mob hoots and hollers at his rude dishonest BS and he thinks as long as he feels warm fuzzies from their moronic chuckles everything is fine Meanwhile the majority are looking for an anchor to latch to his collar|0 yes everybody should be taking it seriously|1 Yes my apologies that was what I meant by upper management|1 This is what is really scary about these quarantine measures They turn Hubei residents info fugitives who run around trying to not get arrested and in the process becoming an guerrilla army of super spreaders|1 They dont have to verify where you went All non uscitizens who went to china in the last 14 days will be denied in usThey can ask tho |0 Uh not true Im Singaporean and I was 11 when SARS hit There were updates on the news the occasional doctor treating patient has contracted it and a banger rap video by a beloved local actor there were no names being publishedNames that we did know about were hailed as heroes like the nurse who passed away after contracting the virus when looking after her patients|1 Unfortunately yes If they can not heal and there are 3060 years old in need I think mercy killing is more human than letting more people die and letting them suffer to be honest|0 Theres already 3 mil deaths a year between tuberucolsis malaria HIV and lower respirator infections in Africa 15mil are specific to the lungsIf they had 100k deaths from covid itd be barely noticeable|0 Downvote brigades were one of the methods used to reduce influence of the rtechnology sub after the surprise outcome that stopped SOPA and similar suppression campaigns such as when the Snowden story brokeThose with power or money impacted by those events recognized too much independent thought and influence occurred in that venue and worked to reduce influence To my point companies like Verizon went about this by trying to build their own technology platform Sugarstring based on paying people for content but requiring that only flufftech futurist stories were allowed writers could not discuss nuances of the law or political spheres impacting technologyMods using the familiar tactics of agitatetoinciteresponse then claiming victimhood and demanding other mods removed were used to take over the mod room in that sub As power was ceded the removal of stories too transparent and there was a meltdown in the well documented case of davidreiss666 and associated mods removed from that subAfterwards we saw proliferation of side subs with high production value such as futurology created Note the theme of fluff technology topics free from legal or political sphere conversation I speculated Verizon would have had a cheaper job paying a PR team to produce a high production value sub that focused on those goals rather than their Sugarstring project Futurology looks exactly how I would have designed itWith effort to steer readers over to those other subs quality submissions were routinely downvoted to 0 on submission to rtechnology while botnets flooded lowquality ad laden junk keeping mods budy This was a frustrating experience that volunteer mods brought up with reddit admin repeatedly to no avail Blind eye was turned to the behavior This is consistent with other technology platforms operating on a rules for me not for thee framework where ambiguity is used in terms of condition to justify whatever whim of censorship of the day Someone at the admin team were happy to see the erosion of influence in the technology sub Too much independent or Western thought I supposeVolunteer mods do not have the tools to combat these things and are big flaws that allow for takeover and censorship of any community on the platform|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 httpsyoutubecenIxMLSX4httpsyoutubecenIxMLSX4 x200BThe problem is when 10 or more need to be tested It wont be 4 hours wait infact it might not even be 4 days wait|0 our legislative process is so fucked here bickering and bitching and moaning terrible time for a change|0 Thats easier said than done though To quote Chris Hadfield theres no situation so bad that you cant make worseThe decision on who is essential and what constitutes an essential commercial activity is not something you can decide unilaterally and it requires a great deal of careYou could argue that they should have started this process last week but now that border closings are taking effect we need to be careful about how abruptly we isolate ourselves from our closest trading partners|0 well when you have dengue and then you have dengue again cause there are 4 types you get hit way harder with higher chances to die|0 I agree I work for the provincial government and weve gotten vague emails about proper hygieneOne employee brought up working from home and management essentially said LETS NOT PANIC EVERYTHING IS FINE BUSINESS AS USUALits infuriating because we already have the technology and procedure to work from home Were expected to do it outside of office hours anyways because we have to work such long hoursYet were still expected to jump on a subway with thousands of other people each day just so we can be at our desks from 85|1 Just a few months ago that would have seemed most bizarre and comical even|0 If we dont lock down Im sure well catch up right|1 the world is just so far ahead of the usa Im sad|0 Ive no objection to that as theres no remaining conflict of interest|0 I think its actually a really good idea to prevent unnecessary panic I find this relieving|1 To be proactive you need to be two weeks aheadId be fine with a proactive wait and see approach to something that has a long incubationWaiting for cases to suddenly pop up means its too late|1 They look like philosophers stones from FMA|1 If only bonds or any mortgage werent affected by the stock market|1 Sending every sample to Winnipeg for testing is going to get really obnoxious if we have to deal with more than a few dozen cases Especially since Winnipeg is probably the Canadian city least likely to see infections|0 The important thing is that you and OP both quit I am 20 and have been a smoker on and off for 6 years and quit a few weeks ago as the coronavirus crept closer and closer the United StatesAs OP said our bodies have an amazing ability to heal and just quitting for a few days makes the world of a difference to your health so even a few days in youve started to make your body for able to fight this thingSending love and good health to you and OP|1 The WH fired the pandemic response lead two years ago because science httpswwwgooglecomampsthehillcomhomenewsadministration387191trumpofficialoverseeingpandemicresponsesuddenlyleavesadmin3famp|0 Its worth noting that even if the headline had been written this way yesterday this would still be a dramatic increase Yesterdays clinically diagnosed number was only 4980 4890 but clinical confirmed would still have been less than half todays number|1 It does but we now have specific reason to think it might get worse again Anyway lets be cautious and wait until we have more data|0 I recognize that today is very different from 1918 since mothers often work outside the house Well that truly is a salient difference if closing schools simply means that most kids are going to be shuffled off to equally germy cramped daycare environments instead of sequestered at home|1 Impressive effort for day 1 Cant wait to see day 14|1 Posted on another thread but is relevant here as well Some numbers to share with those in your world who arent grasping the gravity of where we are at bed count info from the American Hospital Associationhttpswwwahaorgstatisticsfastfactsushospitals Total number of beds in all hospitals in the US 924107 or a bed for about 03 of citizens Total number of ICU beds in the US 97776 or about one bed for every 003 of citizens Approx 12 of cases in Italy required ICU If Italys ratios hold for the US approx 025 of the population sick around 814800 and every ICU bed is full assuming nobody is currently using any of them Thats 025 a quarter of one percent of the population sick 23 of the nation sick at once Every hospital bed in the country is full The 23 includes the 88 infected that do not need any medical assistanceAll of these numbers dont account for the fact that hospital beds and by association medical staff run about 68 occupied on any given day So youre down to 074 of the nation ill at once and the medical system will be pushed beyond its capacity just in available beds At 0074 and all ICU beds are still full If it comes to that best not need medical intervention for anything else cause those folks are going to be tied up with other things|0 My dad is 73 has a heart condition and and works at Trader Joes He has no choice he needs the money and I cant help him financially I wish TJs and other chains would at the VERY LEAST move their over60 workforce away from publicfacing positions or give them paid leave Its so scary|0 I am sooooooooo TIRED OF HIM being stupid Natural disasters tornado hurricane earthquake or etc epidemic or pandemic can happen when we least expect it All we can do is be prepare and be smart about it plus you are hoping our government will be on top of it He needs to keep his crazy elsewhere I am already annoyed how illprepared we are after knowing this virus or as he called it the corona flu may be hitting the US 2 months ago Tests are failing or unavailable Stop being a salesman be a president or human for a change|0 I honestly think the media is playing to the govs tune to an extent to keep the population calmId rather them do that than mimic this subreddit Staying calm is important in times like these|1 Could this be survivorship bias In the end we hear about this person which somehow managed to cross his way with one of those few infected but there were thousands of other people doing transfer in that airport who did not get infected so they are not in the news|0 A high death count is very possible without total lock down That is the nature of exponential growth|0 so we have a 20th century cult vs a 2nd century cult who would win|1 Damn all the officials about to be hit|0 it wont help the virus is already out in the general population Harvard studies already say 4060 of the entire national population will be infected and then the virus will mutate Watch the Resident Evil movies its clear what will happen|0 yikes that is nottt good|1 Read the WHO report I linkIts 4 days average 90 of the cases show symptoms before one week the link you posted said that 5 days on averageREAD your article next time before posting it One exception with one guy having an abnormal 20 days doesnt make a ruleIntentionally spreading misinformation and lies will get you banned|0 Honestly as a shop floor worker Id hate them to come to my store give me some agency workwrs anyday that are willing to crack on and do the job than head office staff who barely do any work but get celebrated for how much they helped Even worse is they only help out stores near the head office not the struggling stores across the country|1 Question I clean a lot with vinegar Is vinegar totally useless in deactivating this virus on surfaces|0 The cases multiply up to a rate of 1520 hospitalizations a day all for the same reason The results of the swabs now come one after the other positive positive positive Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing Emergency provisions are issued help is needed in the emergency room A quick meeting to learn how the to use to emergency room EHR and a few minutes later Im already downstairs next to the warriors on the war front The screen of the PC with the chief complaint is always the same fever and respiratory difficulty fever and cough respiratory insufficiency etc Exams radiology always with the same sentence bilateral interstitial pneumonia All needs to be hospitalized Some already needs to be intubated and goes to the ICU For others however it is late ICU is full and when ICUs are full more are created Each ventilator is like gold those in the operating rooms that have now suspended their nonurgent activity are used and the OR become a an ICU that did not exist before I found it amazing or at least I can speak for Humanitas Gavazzeni where I work how it was possible to put in place in such a short time a deployment and a reorganization of resources so finely designed to prepare for a disaster of this magnitude And every reorganization of beds wards staff work shifts and tasks is constantly reviewed day after day to try to give everything and even more Those wards that previously looked like ghosts are now saturated ready to try to give their best for the sick but exhausted The staff is exhausted I saw fatigue on faces that didnt know what it was despite the already grueling workloads they had I have seen people still stop beyond the times they used to stop already for overtime that was now habitual I saw solidarity from all of us who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask what can I do for you now or leave that admission to me i will take care of it Doctors who move beds and transfer patients who administer therapies instead of nurses Nurses with tears in their eyes because we are unable to save everyone and the vital signs of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny There are no more shifts schedulesSocial life is suspended for us I have been separated for a few months and I assure you that I have always done my best to constantly see my son even on the day after a night shift without sleeping and postponing sleep until when I am without him but for almost 2 weeks I have voluntarily not seen neither my son nor my family members for fear of infecting them and in turn infecting an elderly grandmother or relatives with other health problems Im happy with some photos of my son that I look at between tears and a few video calls So you should be patient too you cant go to the theater museums or gym Try to have mercy on that myriad of older people you could exterminate It is not your fault I know but of those who put it in your head that you are exaggerating and even this testimony may seem just an exaggeration for those who are far from the epidemic but please listen to us try to leave the house only to indispensable things Do not go en masse to make stocks in supermarkets it is the worst thing because you concentrate and the risk of contacts with infected people who do not know they are infected You can go there without a rush Maybe if you have a normal mask even those that are used to do certain manual work put it on Dont look for ffp2 or ffp3 Those should serve us and we are beginning to struggle to find them By now we have had to optimize their use only in certain circumstances as the WHO recently recommended in view of their almost ubiquitous running low Oh yes thanks to the shortage of certain protection devices many colleagues and I are certainly exposed despite all the other means of protection we have Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols Some infected colleagues also have infected relatives and some of their family members are already struggling between life and death We are where your fears could make you stay away Try to make sure you stay away Tell your family members who are elderly or with other illnesses to stay indoors Bring him the groceries please We have no alternative Its our job Indeed what I do these days is not really the job Im used to but I do it anyway and I will like it as long as it responds to the same principles try to make some sick people feel better and heal or even just alleviate the suffering and the pain to those who unfortunately cannot heal I dont spend a lot of words about the people who define us heroes these days and who until yesterday were ready to insult and report us Both will return to insult and report as soon as everything is over People forget everything quickly And were not even heroes these days Its our job We risked something bad every day before when we put our hands in a belly full of someones blood we dont even know if they have HIV or hepatitis C when we do it even though we know they have HIV or hepatitis C when we stick ourselves during an operation on a patient with HIV and take the drugs that make us vomit all day long for a month When we read with anguish the results of the blood tests after an accidental needlestick hoping not to be infected We simply earn our living with something that gives us emotions It doesnt matter if they are beautiful or ugly we just take them home In the end we only try to make ourselves useful for everyone Now try to do it too though with our actions we influence the life and death of a few dozen people You with yours many more Please share and share the message We need to spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy22|0 NOT A DOCTOR OR MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL OF ANY KIND She should probably take a leave of absence until adequate testing provides actual data from which to make actual riskbased decisions|1 Ok boomer|1 F winnie the flu|0 Bad things only happen in those other countriesI think thats a part of it why nobody is worrying the way they should Weve had it good for so long|0 New zealand is flat out refusing to test anyone unless two show severe symptoms and ALL symptoms Even though we know that many carriers can be asymptomatic My mum currently has a mild fever Doctors and hospitals refuse to test her and just send her home This is just so unbelievably stupid Their response instead is to just close the border and ban anything public|0 How confident are you that it is less dangerous than expected Because some people are like yes it definitely is less dangerous than we thought and some people believe its super dangerous|1 and bunch of village entrance with armed guard with bb guns LMAO|1 Weeeeee lol isnt this fun Ive never been so disappointed in my country and government as I am right now Where is our plan Where is our leadership Its like watching a flaming truck rolling slowly towards you and instead of moving you have time it can wait We need action|0 infectious pandemic mandatory mass meeting is a terrible idea on every level|0 Im down for a coronavirus party Are you feeling lucky I am And lets be honest Im probably going to catch it anyway My coworkers all have little gremlins who suck up every disease known to man give it to their parents and then they bring it to work and infect everyone else because they dont get enough PTO to cover the realities of having small children|1 Thats a lawsuit waiting to happen Your wife needs to call every employee and let them know their jobs are still secure once all of this blows over|1 They did nearly 5000 tests a couple of days ago This is the second highest number I think Our hero who formats these figures as a table will be able to tell us |1 No because the publisherdeveloper doesnt make any money off of preowned sales Thats a publisherdeveloper sale not a Gamestop sale|0 No that was justified|1 Except that the vast majority arent taking the proper precautions so it falls on the government to enforce stuff like this|1 Sars wasnt very contagious|1 So how many extra deaths are worth 1 point of GDP to you|1 Its essentially a very severe pneumonia that has no treatment because you cant use antibiotics Young people can get sick but they recover better The only fear is when hospitals start getting overwhelmed we could very well see a rise in critical cases simply because people of all ages arent getting treatment The fear isnt from the virus as much as from lack of treatment because hospitals are at beyond max capacity|0 Hi it appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the 2019 Novel Coronavirus outbreak centered in Wuhan China andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected This kind of post is more appropriate for the daily discussion thread on the top of the front page of this subredditWe here at rChinaflu recommend following the guidelines and advice given by trusted sources Your local health officials the World Health Organization and others have been actively monitoring the situation and providing guidance to the public about itSome resources which may be applicable to your situation are as follows The World Health Organization website which has regularly updated situation reports travel advice and advice to the public on protecting yourself from infectionshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019 The CDC USA website which provides Risk assessments Travel advice and FAQs relating to the 2019 nCoV outbreakhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml The UKs Department of Health and Social Cares guidance to the publichttpswwwgovukguidancewuhannovelcoronavirusinformationforthepublicIf you believe you may have symptoms of the Novel Coronavirus or feel you may have been exposed to the virus speak to a doctor andor contact your local health officials for further guidanceFollow the advice of users in this post at your own risk Any advice that exceeds the recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts|1 UPVOTE THIS COMMENT Lets start another petition to demand this info|0 I know its frustrating but services still have to continue Grocery stores and pharmacies have to stay open Repair people have to be sent out Gig workers delivering things Public transit Mail A lot of people have to keep working through this This is going to go on for months not a couple weeks regardless of what youre hearing now In UK theyve put a 3 month quarantine on oldsickvulnerable already 3 monthsDo what you can and know that the social distancing by others your risks in the end have been brought down a lot But that means they need people to go to their houses to fix things deliver things etc|0 I guess people need to start weighing whether the Chinese govt will survive thisI imagine the survivors will be pretty pissed about how this was handled|0 Gonna need more than 2 weeks if you get infected Whats Walmart gonna do if you end up in the hospital|0 Even so think through your worst case scenario What if Australia imposes lockdowns and restricts movement What if both of you get seriously ill in the middle of nowhere This is a global epidemic than no one has resistance to You have to work on the basis that you do get it What then|0 Not good I am concerned |0 If you try to get to higher ground by now its to late you not gonna make itBut if you got your shit together years ago get to higher ground a month ago There is a good chance you will make itMost people are to lazy work like a slave and expect the government will take care of them yeah those are fucked|1 This sitehttpwwwontario19com had Toronto at 81 yesterday and York at 15 and sums up to the 188 on Ontarios page Their respective regional public health pages are currently reporting 108 and 22 for increases of 27 and 7If that tracker is accurate then todays increase was actually 46 for the province|1 I dont think the number will surge for a little while Not because the virus is not spreading but because people will not go to the doctor out fear of medical bills or do their best not to be tested out fear of being quarantined missing work and then losing their jobs|0 I think we already realize what a fuck up it is to depend on one country to get our necessities from|0 its security theatre but thats not the point its social solidarity thats why we wear them |1 All day today at work people coming through my lines say the same the flu kills moreits an old person virus line Whats funny is these are all old people in their 50s90s Do they not care about their own healthIn Vegas yesterday I drove by a bus stop near the strip It was being blocked off by four ambulances and about four or five people wearing masks aprons gloves goggles were taking homeless people and putting them into the backs of the ambulances Really really put this thing into perspective for me|0 Correct so not terrible news just if it quacks like a duck walks like a duck then its prob a duck at this point In Wuhanhubei|1 Oh so now the sub is admitting that hospitals are ready Because yesterday it was supposedly all lies|0 It depends on the individual Most people will have a mild immune reaction and be ok Others will have a severe immune reaction and be in critical condition regardless of age But yes older people people with preexisting conditions and Americans are at great risk|1 Yes I didnt mean to infer that not everyone should isolate Just meant to remind that subset of persons about their particular susceptibility|1 This guy definitely has the Koalafications to say this since he is an Australian|1 Yup The whole world wouldnt be far off looking like Wuhan did a month ago if there had been no containment methods|1 Yep Trump says the intelligence departments are lying NOAA is lying everyone in govt lies and no one can be trusted Now when we NEED people to trust what theyre being told Because of Sir Cheeto they wont A competent politician understands the reason for societal trust in the government Ignorant selfabsorbed rabblerousers only care about themselvesWe should elect public servants that understand the meaning of the phrase|1 I had chicken pox 3 times Am I fucked|0 But But its 15 and its going down Weve done a great job|1 Theres little reason to believe she has the virus as she was not even necessarily in contact with an infected person Self quarantines are an above and beyond precautionary measure they arent following up because they trust that in most cases people will let them know if they have symptoms Even if there are small mistakes in the quarantine procedure its unlikely to be a big deal|0 Is that good or bad|0 Thanks very helpful|1 Read his comment again hes not talking about epidemy hes talking hotspot in geographical term being an epidemiologist in this hard times makes you stressed maybe you need to sleep|0 Thats the epitome of selfishness How many of them are potentially infected already and how many others will they infect tomorrow Holy shit|0 There are loads of vulnerable young people too People with diabetes hypertension autoimmune diseases cancer anyone whos ever had an organ transplant even smokers are more at risk Absolutely nothing has been done to protect them so far|0 Im in the northeast US and our news is still basically saying its no big deallow risk and everyone still seems to be going about things as normal|0 This is fucking ridiculous Humans are HORRIBLE at risk assessment|0 Skewing statistics thats what Elon is good at Like when he compared the safety of his Tesla cars with everything else on four wheels in the US instead of the correct comparison with newly produced cars in a similar class|1 Thank you Your advice is very useful and is what makes reddit a great community despite some of its problems|1 God I hope so make the IL summer a little more bearable|1 I mean its kind of fathomable If I remember right its a 15 serious complication rate So 15 of 330 million is 495 million So when the hospital system collapses|0 Technically assault if Im not mistaken Bodily fluids are dangerous enough without a pandemic|0 My church stopped meeting and I recommend your friend do the same God wants people to use the wisdom he gave us to be smart enough to stay home and be safe|1 Now lets see how many times he appears on camera over the next two weeks so we know for sure|1 Proof how harmless the virus is and how idiots are taking over the world destroying trillions of dollars pushing surveillance and turning people into work slaves only allowed to work and shop|0 Nice so a large part of the American population will avoid treatment because it will ruin them Meanwhile 15 trillion at 1 to the suits What a wonderful system that has been fought and died for|0 Please take name and health card number of everyone in the picture and insert in a Do Not Resuscitate list so we can free some ICU beds in 2 weeks from now|1 Chances Of course this happened Not really sure why people dont understand that|0 Well you guys at least banned large events None of this has been done here in the UK|0 Firstly Im very sorry for what you all are going through in China Im in Portugal and expect things to get worse over time From a Chinese perspective Im curious why the National Medical Products Administration directly under the State Council of the Peoples Republic of China is failing to make their wet markets safe If they had better safety policies we wouldnt be in this global pandemic Correct me if Im wrong Not your fault and just genuinely curious how things like this works in China Care to talk about it|1 Excellent question that I am unable to provide an answer for I am equally concerned with how normal is determined From the cdcgov web site regarding flu season and how many people get sick with flu every yearCDC uses mathematical modeling in combination with data from traditional flu surveillance systems to estimate the numbers of flu illnesses in the United States CDC estimates that flu has resulted in between 93 million and 49 million illnesses each year in the United States since 2010 More information on these estimates is available on CDCs Disease Burden of Influenza pageThat seems like a wide margin to me|0 Dont think so We know that virus can spread in incubation phase and we know that once this chinese woman got sick she sought medical attention and informed chinese authorities which in turn informed german authorities By this time two people she had infected in germany had already infected others|0 So even if I say that I am the country of Italy and I have Saturday Night Fever I wont get tested Dumb|1 Bosnian here Hard agree|1 It should be postponed Id love to come out of their mess and go to the Japan Olympics|1 Tagging onto a bigger comment for visibility For those wondering Dont work in silo means Dont go at it alone avoid clique mentality Collaborate httpsyourbusinessazcentralcomsilosmeanbusinessculture3448html|0 Its crazy that this church is in the UK too They British church of England had to send a message out warning people about the cult in 2016 Theyre called the Parachristo in the UK and registered as Charity trying to fish for vulnerable fish here|0 Well other than letting 3 million leave wuhan and doing nothing for an entire month China has been great at controlling this its only gone to almost every country in the world|1 Hopefully the numbers are inflated by the fact that cruise ships are floating petri dishes|1 If you do a chargeback the company you are dealing with most likely will ban you in the future|0 Whenever youre ready|1 Thats exactly what he is telling everyone you dingus Those are the logical conclusions an uninformed individual would draw from his commentsIts incredibly dangerous Just like you are incredibly stupid|0 I completely agree with that statement This is the world we live in So much inconsideration lack of awareness towards themselves or what they leave behind for others and just a general I dont give a shit attitude Lack of compassion and ethics towards the life of animals is why this outbreak started and lack of consideration is going to kill innocent people|0 Yes This is exactly what happened during the Spanish flu pandemic Young healthy people died because their immune systems overreacted I havent heard of this happening with young people infected with COVID19 but I did read an article about cytokine storms happening with the virus We need more data from other countries regarding age groups and morbiditymortality|0 Ive seen too much evidence in comment sections that show that majority of people are in denial and not taking this seriouslyThis is why those of us with our eyes open need to make sure we have our supplies If youve been putting it off GO OUT NOW while there isnt a giant panicked rush Weve seen that that is already starting in some areas The last thing you want to do is be out in the mess with the majority who arent taking this seriously and are trying to get what is left NM the risk of infection but just risk of some crazy asshole trying to run people down for their stuff|0 Just so you know that the virus doesnt see your race or nationality or religious belief South Koreans travel to China all the time so it mightve been someone who brought the virus back to South Korea Good for you for not blaming the super spreaders religious belief but you are just shifting that blame to people with the Chinese nationality|0 Alcohol gel is similarly drying I agree with soiled hands i just dont want people to think they should gel instead of wash I plan to wash dry then gel then lotion Gel alone to me is for when you cant wash your hands|1 It was livestreamed on Facebook lol by the shooter Idk if he is caught yet Its pretty bad 20 people died so regardless of the shitshow you think the government is show some empathy and respect for the people who died|0 These fuckheads need to be locked up fast and for long sentences This is not the time to fuck about|0 I have a question I wash my hands and phones regularly I also suffer from eczema and I am wondering if during a flare up and I have some open wounds does that make me more likely to contract this if I were to be exposed to it I do the best I can not to scratch but sometimes it bothers me so much I dont remember reading anywhere if the virus can infiltrate through an open wound Thanks|1 Worst part is these same people will be here in 23 weeks screaming about how bad the issue is and why didnt people fix it earlier or take it more seriously theyll be here telling stories about how someone they knew died because they couldnt get a ventilator but they will definitely not tell everyone about how they out partying in mid march|0 Its a good way to distract from Chicagos gross negligence and rampant corruption I suppose|0 I bet you are right I hadnt even thought of counterfeit sanitizer I wish Amazon would take more responsibility for the thirdparty sellers|1 Its Gods interpretation but you wouldnt know because your a fool|0 Genuine question should I worry about eating take out and risk getting infected from someone who doesnt know they have it|0 Damn than please try to self isolate maybe Like food delivery instead of going out if there is such a service in your area some social isolation good hygiene That goes a long way And the best of luck to you and your community|1 Thanks|1 I live in America and basically live paycheck to paycheck since I have to pay for all my travel costs upfront company reimburses me I rely on my employer for health insurance My student loan payments are 500 a month Finding another job is easier said than done Im basically trapped I have no choice Sorry folks|0 Current choices are freeware and google infocollecitonware The reason we dont have a real alternative or competitor are the anticompetitive practices MS used all the way back to the 90s They were sued by the government for antitrust issues multiple times Older folks will remember how other programs like Wordperfect or Lotus 123 were competitors in the sphere and did some things better than MS WordExcel let alone THIRTY years of potential improvement if they werent a monopoly|1 Specialist speculate that immunity is 6 months in some zero in others and max 2 years We will still get winter second wave that will damage the most people who already lost lung function due to the first wave unless this coronavirus is completely different than SARS other coronaviruses etc|0 People on reddit have weirdass ideas about Scandinavian countries My family is from Norway and I used to hang out in the Norway sub just to see what idiocy some fellow American was going to spew in that comm next Norway is amazing and the US should absolutely be studying its programs and benefiting from tested policy But the way lefists fetishize some fictional version actually makes that harder|1 Yes it is |1 Well thats wrong anyway We know that influenza can occur comorbidly with COVID19 and those cases would be vastly more likely to be hospitalized and be caught in that graph specificallyI just think youre looking for reasons why we cant know how much COVID19 there is in the population when its very likely we can from the indicators which we have|0 This mofo gets it|0 Who do they buy food from if no one is working|0 As PTs and OTs become PhD programs across the county the students they produce are increasingly coming with pretty large heads it seems|1 I probably would I cut my income in half a few years ago because I was tired of running people onto the ground every day to make a CEO an extra yacht But I realize that Im a little weird too|0 Okay|1 You certainly dont need to be there as much either way|1 Arent asian ethnicities notoriously racists towards one another though|0 Diamond Princess does this give us a better idea of clinical severity fatality rate and asymptomatic casesLess than 1 mortality in a group where 80 are 60 and 334 cases still have no symptoms this is updated to not include people who showed symptoms after testing httpstranslategoogleusercontentcomtranslatecdepth2nv1rurltranslategooglecomslautospnmt4tlenuhttpswwwmhlwgojpstfnewpage10204htmlusgALkJrhh6mjV9l4oRkG42ngDsjmM0fO4w|0 I wish I could find the debunked article nowI dont know how to search for it on Reddit|1 When I voted last I voted early He was standing in line and shaking peoples hands with his wife I refused to shake his hand because of how much damage the GOP nationally has done to our country plus I disagree with a lot of his stancesI wish I could shake his hand now or touch elbows social distancing Im so proud of the steady realistic leadership hes provided this last week Hes really been fantastic and Ohio is well positioned to deal with this|1 I saw a post suggesting buying gift certs from your mom and pop eateries in the meantime to help them float|1 Its crazy AF|0 I guess you are right But with an active anxiety disorder I have to do something to just feel in control I guess|0 Approval voting is even better|1 Yep Me neighbor was telling me about her friends parents who went on a cruise First day in Italy the rest in other places but they still had to be quarantined when they got back|1 Literally it was only two days ago Trump was still comparing it to the flu|0 What do you mean so little is known about itPeople have sequenced DNA from skeletons it was Yersinia pestis like the Black DeathIf you want to talk interesting mysterious diseases the Athens plague in 430 BC is a proper case Was it an Ebolalike disease which best fits the symptoms that Thucydides describes and if yes how the hell did it get there all the way up the Nile from the Great Lakes region Unfortunately filoviruses are RNA viruses so we will never knowSame for cocoliztli in the 16th century was it a local VHF that made the jump to humans there are a number of those in Latin America even today but they are only transmissible from their rodent hosts to humans and mostly by accident cocoliztli was probably humantohuman transmissible which would again best fit the symptoms the chronicles report or was it an imported Old World disease|1 Comments here are just like comments on Chinese website 6 weeks ago|1 Rosetta projects are CPU only so far true but other BOINC projects do let you use your GPU and those settings are configurable at the relevant project websites|1 Everyone can do something helpful by following these simple stepsIT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPSWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKCALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING|1 William is a moron too I see|0 Are you ok|1 This shook me more than any statistic Ive read so far|0 North Korea best Korea|1 Most people that are too stubborn for their own good are seniors as well insisting on family reunion etc|1 What about the people falling in the streets|0 loool yeah that might be a good idea yikes|1 Thing is in order to in force this we have to target their stocks and what better reason to pull out your investment and write terrible reviews then for a company that wants its employees and customers to contract a virus for their profit|1 Its wild how the market isnt more tempered to presidential statements by now Anyone with inside knowledge of Trumps remarks has been making an absolute boatload of cash playing these swings for the last few years Im still convinced this is the raison detre for the trade war|0 Its better to get out and enjoy life now before this gets worse next week and we cant|1 If you ride it out long enough herd immunization will prevent the virus from spreading Nobody is thinking literally 100 of the world will get it its more like 3060|1 It was an example for why normalcy has in fact most definitely not returned and coming to China now is not a good idea|1 If they are treated immediately after getting infected After being infected for a period of time a threshold is passed where a vaccine will become useless and the virus becomes 99 fatal|0 Hey Evelyn The fact that you want to contribute like this makes you FAR from a waste of life I hope your depression will not get the best of you Im sure youd turn out to be a fucking fantastic person if I ever got to know you Ive had my fair share of sadness and despair myselfThe thing about life is that it is constantly changing there are some pretty pretty good odds that youll get the wind in your back and feel good about yourself in timeDont sweat the small stuff And its mostly small stuff|1 My baby was born 2 weeks early and the doctors told us that he could have lasting effects with his immune system and lung capacity among some other things We are living in Washington and this is the only thing that hasnt made me crazy The flu has killed a few children here this year so while we dont have a vaccine and its more contagious than a typical flu so some say Im not as worried about it now|0 Every cunt on reddit who isnt an expert in said field take note|0 Youll end up alive and potentially with squatters rightsIf your rent is 1000 thats a rifle and months of food right now If the question is pay this bank and be broke without supplies or be ready and maybe have to deal with a bureaucracy in months you are fucking suicidal if you dont pick the latter|0 Thats such a great way to protect staff Dont enter the hospital stay in your car well be in touch|1 Thats not the main reason you mix alcohol with water and diluting is a bit misleading here Alcohol with 70 is in general more effective as a sanitizer also for many extractions btw more that concentrations below and above The main reason with ethanol is that above like 8085 you get into big problems with penetration for multiple reasons including that it acts then as some kind of tanning agent on many proteins and denaturates them Also swelling and so on doesnt work anymoreFor enveloped viruses the water is also involved in the mechanism of damaging the virus hull itself but that I can only reiterate and I dont really understand that part About evaporation for 70 alcohol if you take a large enough amount you can rub your hands and you should rub for 30s with it until it is drytldr you need alcohol with the correct concentration like 70 else it might not work or work only much less effective and water is not diluting it but is a necessary active ingredient of alcohol based sanitizer|1 Itll be worse|0 Imagine my shock|0 So very thankful for Amazon right now|1 Yes and think about this going the other way If say this was happening to neighboring India Same stats as it is now You are China Would you accept the consequences of having them come and then open the possibility of having them affect a pool of 15 billion people because of a hypothetical issue of now you shutting down access to all countries in the future Here is a better example Cause viruses dont know what a border or geography is Then why not open up Wuhan to the rest of China Take the lockdown off cause you know if they infect their neighboring cities you gotta lock down those cities too which to you is a short term solution So by your logic take the lockdown off Wuhan and see what happens Tell me if it spreads faster or not based on your scenario Regardless if its a country or geography No containment right You need to stop being butt hurt that the world is offending China China would do the same shit thats what they are doing to their own cities Its containment not a political or but hurt thing|0 Asian countries are definitely more socially accepting if masks Our supply in the western world is extremely lower because it isnt socially acceptable to wear one|1 Worry is only useful up to a point and that point is keeping yourself aware of your local and national public health announcements ensuring that you could selfisolate if needed and ensuring that you take good health precautions Worry isnt useful when its things that are out of your control at the end of the day your wife isnt sick and still has to go to work You can minimize any risk by her taking all hygiene precautions at work when she comes home she could immediately get changed and hop in the shower since you are living together with elderly people and keep the bathroom very clean If you have multiple bathrooms have the people staying at home use one and those who are working use anotherSo no I dont think you should worry about them if you can avoid it after all stress and anxiety lower your own immune system but you should certainly keep abreast of the current health advisories from trusted sources and take all measures to be as hygienic as possibleTheres no doubt that your dad is higher risk than a lot of people and it would be a very good idea for him to avoid public gatherings and take the risks seriously Since your dad is on regular medication and has leukemia is he getting regular appointments with his doctor It would be worth mentioning it to the doctor and seeing if they have any specific advice or concerns|0 Not having an outbreak like this in your mamas basement|1 Its not that easy If theres even 1 person in Wuhan who has it its probably another two weeks until its another 10000 infected|0 You want people to stay calm but the terms used to describe keep getting worse I think most people dont know what a pandemic is but it sounds horrific even if its just a technical term Like it sounds like something out of World War Z|0 Yep thats it|1 Youre confusing irresponsible and apathetic with fun if youre implying that it means avoiding crowded places because my wife is pregnant and vulnerable to an ongoing epidemic|0 Thanks for what you do|1 I know thats what makes this so frustrating I also would be surprised if there werent dozens of Washington Counties across the nation Its bad enough when a headline says Washington and doesnt say if they mean the state or DC but this headline is just idiotic journalism|0 That is a shit tier way to judge this Those areas are being decimated due to a breakdown in medical infrastructure Hospitals are being overwhelmed in Wuhan and the biggest issue Japan is going to have is its very large elderly population The real killer here isnt the virus perse its the hospitals being overwhelmed by the sheer number of infected|0 Im reading the virus is more easily found in the lower respiratory tract which is harder to get|1 But potatoes are vegetables right I mean they arent fruit or nuts or fungus|1 The last time I went to Gamestop was 34 years ago when they charged me 199 for game insurance and I called them out on that bullshit|0 Its more like 5 day incubation period then a week of mild symptoms before either recovering or worsening to severe So around 12 days after lockdown|0 this is an interesting experiment and we are in the middle of itno we are at the very beginning about 400 confirmed cases here in denmark about five million people 500000 cases expected schools and public offices closing now on parliaments orders|1 httpsoldredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfdgomicovid19causesirreversiblelungfibrosisearlierThe disease may cause irreversible lung damage|0 I fucking hate this Cheeto fuckass and let me be among the first to say good fucking job Seal borders and brace for impact Let the plague burn itself out|0 As the saying goes hard times create strong people strong people create good times good times create weak people weak people create hard timesThis is amazing Saved|1 In Hong Kong first thing to clear off shelves was toilet paper|1 Or you could not go to China lol|1 Sort of agree But the main reason most cant afford to buy is because there isnt enough houses so the cost of what is available goes up But the issue is still that there is a housing shortage and some people own more than they need and charge extortionate rent fyi I am from the south east so it is more expensive down here If individuals didnt hoard multiple properties there would be more to go around thus a cheaper housing market that is open to all Either that or increase wages so people can afford to buyrent as they please What it boils down to is the system is broken|1 I felt weird buying a pack of masks at Home Depot especially with them urging people not to so there are enough for healthcare employees but they were there and I knew if I didnt buy them someone else would I dont think the tiny 3 packs of masks available to the general public in stores right now would be purchased by hospitals anyway theyre more concerned about people going online and buying huge boxes and boxes of them If theyre available at your local stores I say why not I dont believe for a second that they dont help|0 Thats likely to be a huge overexaggeration on your part and on the part of a video linked from a YouTube channel that seems to create or repost conspiracy theoriesWhat would be the point of building the hospital if they werent prepared to do the best they can for the people admitted Try and have some respect for a country thats trying its best in incredibly difficult circumstances to stop the virus spreading|1 Yes and plague Inc is actually to crowd source funding and research for the perfect pandemicIlluminati|1 Ah thank you for this link my brother has been prepping and we were talking about this issue thank you again|1 Heres the original article httpswwweuractivcomsectioncoronavirusnewsdanishcoronahitfirmsgetstateaidtopay75ofsalarieshttpswwweuractivcomsectioncoronavirusnewsdanishcoronahitfirmsgetstateaidtopay75ofsalaries|1 Love this guy such good information and not overestimating it or downplaying it at all|1 I think the idea is that if you only interact with work family who dont already have it then youre not adding bar strangers or other random people who could infect your circle Keep your circle small but your circle will include the people you work with because business has to continueotherwise the supply chain collapses|0 The US has always been guilty of the 7 deadly sins This month Pride knocked Gluttony to second place|0 Right I know OC is testing Find it highly unlikely SB and Riverside have not a single case Its scary its going so unchecked|0 Thats the other piece I am not sure about what is the deal with asymptomatic patients Do they ever develop symptoms or can potentially remain carriers for a long period of time|0 And with healthcare the way it is in the US if I didnt knowcare about this virus and assumed Id caught the flu I certainly wouldnt be seeing any healthcare providers|0 At this stage in the pandemic its the socially active jetsetters that are the problem not homeless people The homeless may be bad hygiene central but they have social distancing down pat When it does reach into the homeless population with their comorbidities they will have bad outcomes But that is likely a few weeks away yet|0 Interesting People will start to like Pence if he starts saying the right thing and becomes Pres A morbid thought but idk maybe Im making shit up|0 But mask are useless rememberThats why we sent two cargo planes carrying 7 tons of ppe to china in exchange for 231 of their dual citizensHow is he profiting of fearHe is providing a product that is in incredibly high demand at a price reflective of that demand The transaction is consensual This isnt the antidote he is not charging 5000 a roll of toilet paper because there are other people in the city charging 2000 So hes gonna charge around 2000 as wellIn fact the more people you have selling the black market supplies the lower the price for the consumerIf you tear down the community bulletin board Terrence is going to charge whatever he wants for piano lessons|0 Its not terrible advice for fucks sake Its a virus not a goddamn bus NOBODY can prevent someone being infected 100 no need to be a passive aggressive ass about someone telling their mother to wash their hands|0 Greedy corporations with filthy rich executives CEOs are not ready to share wealth with the world and pushed the boundaries too far politically and with greed China was not ready to become part of a mostly free world except Hong Kong You saw this in almost everything they did They saw the need to own it like they do their people in every way in every aspect In fact it is their goal they believe it is their destiny to do it and an actual year in which it will happen Just like Central Banks own the people of the world financially and political governments own their country Except they allow their people to grow which boils down to your thought we are not ready China has a lot of growing to do they are unprepared and we are not ready|1 Wait what What does this have to do with my comment I just think it is impressive I would have pegged him at like 65 |1 How is it in so many counties now How is it even getting to countries like Ecuador Just air travel So this was already spreading before we realized|1 Yep me too Thats something I wonder and worry about a lot But somehow knowing that people who died young did have known or unknown severe conditions helps calm the panic a bit at least for me|0 They could have stopped at the first positive and used the rest elsewhere surely|1 its much simpler Its incompetence|0 I was aware of people buying them off the shelves a month ago to ship them off to their friends and family in China Also some opportunists who REALLY cleaned shelves off world wide to make money selling them in China I told those people that they are leaving us vulnerable WHEN this broke out here they didnt care|0 Well thats one in Thailand and one in Canada thats only two people|1 Im sick This morning I was now Im |0 You die from silver not coronavirus|0 Well Im glad you feel like Adler is doing enough but I respectfully disagree Today were told to act as if there is already community spread though they cant confirm it My problem isnt with the city of Austin so much as it is with Abbott His response during this has been utterly pathetic|0 Me too but I am in the US I cant see this event doing anything less than ruining my life If the virus doesnt kill me economic and societal collapse will or lead me to kill myself|1 Yes I agree But Singapore HK TW arent good comparable examples as their weather is 25C Weather plays a huge part in spreading the virus I just think we should do MORE than these areas|1 How many garbage men can afford to not come into work How many pilots Train conductors Emergency personnel This is WAY more complicated than just oh you think youre sick stay home|0 Like welding apartment exits closed|1 Stay safe it was nice talking to you I hope youre right on this one and I am totally wrong Talk soon |1 I dont want numbers going up president Alright no testing his minions|0 Theres a bad decision and then theres getting face tats of love hearts on your cheeks|1 I think you are idealizing panic and confusing it with worryBy definition panic is a sudden sensation of fear which is so strong as to dominate or prevent reason and logical thinking replacing it with overwhelming feelings of anxiety and frantic agitation consistent with an animalistic fightorflight reactionPanic is going to the supermarketdoctor en masse and at the same time spreading the infectionThe author should have defined the term|0 From twitter looks like its because of enhanced screening for arrivals from Europe Enhance|1 Yeah It happens sometimes Other times it doesnt For example Variola major the causative of smallpox never reduced its lethality|1 This is the warning that its definitely coming|1 Hahaha thanks OP |1 You have to register for a free account but the paywall is dropped|1 Bullshit This is the very foundation of capitalism|0 Hilarious|1 I took a physics class where the class average was 55 Instead of failing everyone 60 became a B Grading on the curve used to be the standard you know|0 Yea In other words itll be much worse huhHopefully the advanced science will help Hopefully|1 I did the smart thing and ordered online from a site of a small store that only has a physical store in a small town but ships across entire country Had problem with money transfer and they called me up and troubleshooted it and shipped on day 1 Go with the locals|0 Its interesting reddit took down my purely factual post about gates Dont you dare speak out against the 1 reddit dont like it|1 I was talking with my father on Friday Trump supporter and he regurgitated the same garbage Trump had just tweeted about flu deaths vs Corona Virus deaths On Monday he called me wanting to borrow one of our guns because he didnt feel safe and even asked me about some preps and where wed go if things got bad Im happy hes woken and started taking things seriously Hes 70 and has diabetes|0 its a bad system it would be negligible extra cost to cover that extra 80000 and significantly reduce the bureaucratic nightmare think of all the paperwork that melts away its pointless and benefits noone|0 Yup that is all true|1 Good game new York your to dense this is gonna spread like wild fire|1 Its not a wooden pole Its a rotan Like a switch It hurts like a MOFO and leaves visible welts But the humiliation of getting caned when youre not a child priceless Its said to be on par with whipping on the pain scale|0 Those EU rail system makes those flight restrictions a nonfactorhttpswwwraileuropecomtraintgvfranceitaly7558httpswwwraileuropecomtraintgvfranceitaly7558If Im escaping Wuhan China Italy would be the first choice to go in Europe probably the safest in Europe on the surface due to that flight ban But it does fall apart when everyone escaping has the same idea|0 Im getting let go soon and job interviews arent letting me Skype Gotta figure people are risking it all|0 Because youre posting propaganda|0 Ive begun getting in shape a few days ago Jogging more water and less soda eating less Shame it took this situation to get me to get my butt in gear but its a good idea for everyone to work towards an ideal weight and improved cardio vascular health|1 Who is saying theyre burning 5x the usual number Given the outbreak there will be more than the usual number some of then will be non nCov though due to the breakdown of the healthcare system If the hospitals are overloadedclosed many incidents that would usually lead to recovery may prove fatal heart attacks for example Clearly they are burning more than usual but we lack the data to say what is nCov related We can assume a lot of them are but how many we cant know without data|0 Sure everyones company is gonna let them have 2 weeks off work cause their wifes got a cough|1 I know Im not concerned at the moment that I wont be able to get food because of supply shortages The extra food and supplies that people have purchased give them the option of not having to go out shopping with a bunch of potentially infected people If your area becomes an infection hotspot being able to skip going out shopping for a week or two is a smart move|0 In the west yeah the couple wont dress in wedding attire before the ceremony In fact its traditional for the man not to see the women in a wedding dress before walking down the alter So in the west no we dont pose aa married until actually married Thats the tradition anyway Everyone can do what they want in suppose|1 Smart Women are less likely to die so it could be to fake the virus into wanting a different host|0 The US is handling this situation in the worst possible wayNo serious measures just useless PR crapIn 10 days you will be nr 1 in the Corona victims ranking|0 Hell get it us done|0 500 confirmed 21 dead|0 At least youre honest good on you I like that|1 I understand these are people But from a government and logistics point of view they should be treated as numbers Sounds harsh but its true If I could wave a magic wand to make the corona virus go away I would|1 What can i say except for Welcome to the fucking club membership couple hundred million|1 They will get sick and then get no health care and possibly die Fuck this|0 I wish we lived in a world where we didnt have to rely on the goodwill of a handful of people to advance our basic needs and progress our standard of living Especially because the majority of billionaires arent Gates or Warren Buffet theyre the Waltons or the Koch brothers or Jeff Bezos|1 I get that But in this case treat them as positive tests and quarantine Do the exact same thing you would do if they tested positive|1 Just blast ass at Coronavirus and say shit the up fuck and it wont only avoid you but get a restraining order against you|0 Its going to be something like 40 growth day on day So yes estimate around 1500 cases|1 This is how its gonna go down the American public will become agitated with their local governments and start demonstrating protests Things will begin to get violent and it will cause the powers that be to declare martial law|0 The main factor that led me to write this is because people need to know how it really is not only numbers and what the media shows We are in this together and we have to help each other and if my testimony helps I am glad Take care|1 This was exactly happened in China China did not even have any convenient test kits at the first place so every sample had to be shipped to central CDC in Beijing and waited for 12 days to get a result Then test kits were invented and the number went high But not even in 2 days the positive number only had been increasing at a very stable rate about 200300 per day simply because the number of the available test kits started to limit the total positive number It is so weird that not many western media is translating the previous news in China in Jan which would be a playbook for other countries Basically even I know what will be happen to US now|1 Alex jones hasnt knowingly been right or told the truth in decades|1 No sound|0 Like shooting fish in a barrel|1 Youre spot on Chinese tourists are the worst Even my Chinese friends at work agree They say that Chinese people work hard and when they pay for a room they feel they earned the right to leave it however I get that but its still crappy to deal with They leave dirty Kleenex EVERYWHERE They dont use bath mats in the bathroom Lots of them wipe their asses then put the toilet paper in the rubbish bin instead of flushing If they bother to wash their used dishes they rinse and put then away wet They cough all over the breakfast buffet Obviously this is not ALL Chinese but a vast majority|0 Can anyone with a medical background comment as to whether this looks legit TIA|1 If youre going to lockdown at least do it right No going out no excuses|0 If they were on top of it they would already be on digital learning days You dont wait for a case to be diagnosed you do it before they appear The time for telework and digital learning is not when a case appears in your area its not even today it was last week|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake|0 Best of luck and stay safe friend|1 Remember 5 days ago when socialism was a bad word and meant you were an evil lazy thief|0 Seriously My mom is in a small town in NC We had a fight because she wants to go out and do her errands go to all her church things and go to the library She is over 60 with health issues Thinks God is in control Meanwhile I am in my 30s staying home all week to protect vulnerable seniors and it seems like they dont even care|0 I spoke to the office pharmacy They had faxed my dr He returned the favour saying I have to go see him Hes an hour away and his clinic is closed and canceled all appointmentsthat doctor is scumIll bet he wants the money from the office visit cause it pays more than just faxing a script|1 lol Its so true though add France to that list Theyre only testing the critically ill and wow Disneyland Paris is still magically open|1 Citrix is commonly used in health care systems I did like my old DOS system No one still alive was hacking that Still in use at my old company 23 years now|1 Yes section 110 a2Aiii To care for the son or daughter of such employee if the school or place of care has been closed or the child care pro vider of such son or daughter is unavail able due to a public health emergencyx200BhttpsruleshousegovsitesdemocratsruleshousegovfilesBILLS116hr6201ihpdfhttpsruleshousegovsitesdemocratsruleshousegovfilesBILLS116hr6201ihpdf|1 And Kathleen Wynne And Dalton McGuinty And Ernie EvesAnd Mike HarrisDont get me wrong I hate Dougie way more than the rest but lets be honest here They all contributed in their way Neo Cons cut and Neo Libs let the cuts stand 30 years of underfunding and here we are|0 i like the stock 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 I am tired of this debate and I put up some articles couple weeks ago but they dont help because they are not in English The only thing you have to know is dont get this virus Just wear face mask and refrain from skin to skin contact and wash your hands and you will be fine If want to know how many percentage of people experience complications including your lunges turning into fiber asthma chronic cough significantly reduced lunge capacity for life and etcAccording to this article half of people infected will escape unharmed but the other half of people will lose 2030 of their lungs This is just for Covid19 For SARS the number was worse Almost everyone was infected with SARS has some degree of permanent lung damage httpwwwrfifrtwE4B8ADE59C8B20200315E696B0E586A0E882BAE7828EE6849FE69F93E5BE8CE981BAE79787E698AFE4BB80E9BABC|0 And then we get a vaccine and consign this filth to the pits of hell where it belongs|0 So does this mean remdesivir is working I hope so because not only is he a doc but hes also a dad to small baby|1 Just call it survivor immunity ffs|0 Thank you so much for all your work Mr Gates Do you believe the virus will calm down over the warmer months and return in the fall|1 For fuck sake Canada canr even make swabs It is a stick with cotton wool on one end|0 Their video has to be good because their medical system is so far behind other countries|1 I live in Downtown Toronto I walked through the PATH earlier today for about 30 seconds before realizing how much of a death trap it probably is after seeing the amount of people sneezing and coughing into the open air My conclusion is that people are dumb They will always be dumb until it hits them or someone close to them|0 Yes my bad The patient transferred from another hospital in Northern CA|0 Someone already turned the script into a moviehttpsyoutubeo6KXhOfqlEHopefully there will be someone looking at this in a museum in the future under the title The day earth failed to stand still|0 Haha thanks corona|1 Look in affluent suburbs ones that call themselves campuses or have a mixed nursing homeindependent living set up and are about 12 mi sq If it is a zombie apocalypse the employees will have already cut off most of the patientresidence areas via closing fire doors|0 Does getting early intervention for mild symptoms lead to a better outcome I have a fever and Im very afraid|1 I dont buy it Their track record has just ruined their credibility for ever no matter what they try to do Whats more the model is just obsolete and incentivizes worst practices left and right|0 It just keeps getting better and better doesnt it|1 The CDC tracks deaths by pneumoniarelated illnesses Well hear from the epidemiologists if thats the case|0 Maybe Im not seeing it but where is the total new infected cases world wide|0 Obviously you have no clue as to what the terms draconian measures and unreported cases mean And those are in your native fucking language Fuck me|0 I am very disturbed about lack of response here as well They should even close schools in places it hasnt been officially found yet Schools are like petri dishes Once cases are found there it is too late because students will have been exposed Our schools said they are following guidance from federal and local health agencies That made me feel even more sick to my stomach|0 Yeah but at some point its all going to have to get shut down at this rate I dont think anyone thought of THAT possibility|1 how could the Chinese study possibly prove that there arent people out there who had the virus but it wasnt severe enough for testingwatch the linked video its all explained in thereWhat evidence is there that its mostly due to false positives the definition of a mild case basically means one where you arent hospitalized httpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51So no The definition is anyone hospitalized who does not need supplemental O2httpsemcritorgibccCOVID19signsandsymptomsbut what about the people out there who felt strange went to the hospital and tested negative for everything else and then were sent home and recovered a few days later Look at all the evidence that I provided and all you have as a counterpoint is a fantasy hypothetical or is there any data that supports your assumption of a mostly mild disease|1 Wow as a non expert I wonder if covering the street with disinfectant is actually useful Isnt harmful for people Or is everyone staying inside|1 You will only know the real extend of this virus when half of your family will become infected|0 Right because our hospitals need more to deal with I support Darwinism on this|1 Currently the 90 year old would get the bed because Medicare would pay for it We would have to quickly create a system of reimbursement for hospitals for them to choose uninsured or lower insured younger people over guaranteed money|0 These people dont deserve anything Preying on the vulnerable and the scared like that American people get his ass|0 Right it IS like the flu when we had no herd immunity or vaccines The problem is when comparing it to the flu TODAY But its also important to compare it like the flu and to learn and review what we are doing and what we can do in the futureWhatever were screwed|0 Double down go to grad school Try and weather the worst years as a student Youll incur more debt but likely have a better chance of good employment at the end Scenario 1 graduate now and look for a job this will be tough and you may have to take something that you are overqualified for and pays little with few prospectsScenario 2 graduate grad school Economy is coming out recession go into junior role that fits your qualifications and has a good career path Scenario 2 is speculative scenario 1 less so|1 Are parcels and packages safe from that areaWish and Amazon have fulfillment centers in the region shipping out tens of thousands daily|1 The straightforward scientific evidence is that although imperfect N95 masks do help I resent that public health authorities claim otherwise they are being disingenuous However such masks only last for eight hours or so before needing replacement and there arent even enough out there for high risk medical staff who do quite frankly need them more than you If they get sick theres no one to take care of you|0 No one is forcing you to go to lectures Just go home and isolate yourself Who cares about school Its not going to matter in a few months World is about to go to shit|0 At what point to we separate out the states and treat them as separate tracks We keep comparing Italy in the US but I think its semi foolish Italy is roughly the size of California but with a shit ton more people Id love to see a breakdown of a state by state comparison against Italy rather than a country as large and diverse as the US I expect Florida alone to look like Italy due to the demographic and their careless nature down there about all of this I think at the end of these you will have to measure this thing at the state level obviously domestic travel is much more prevalent state to state than to each country in Europe but I still believe each state will have different paths to the end|0 42 doesnt kill you but it can start to damage the brain Unless your body is not copying it wont go that high You still didnt give any sources for any of thisAll I could find was MYTH Fevers above 104 F 40 C are dangerous They can cause brain damageIts only really a problem in kids and even then you will rarely need to use medicine The body just doesnt take your temperature high enough to damage itself very often at all|0 Nobody is immune to this virus People need to take this serious|1 I wonder if any of the people who participated in the LA Marathon last week will suffer a similar fate|0 Well spring break is next week and they shut down all the theme parks all school extra curricular activities The problem is that they cant close off beaches Remember residential Floridians has been to the beach during a hurricane We went through hurricanes so all this mass panic we are use to The numbers are not high because of the lack of testing due to the federal government Alot of the festival in the state of Florida has been cancelled|0 Thats fine would rather have my life I can get everything else back|1 True but first time moms often havent spent much time around kids prior to their babys birth So they wouldnt necessarily have many antibodies to OC43|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of 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with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Okay that makes sense Thanks for explaining|1 My coworker to a vacation to Switzerland from the US the day after they announced the flight restrictions At this point I feel like he needs to stay there|1 The NYP article said they referred to the reporting from a British news agency who referred to a report from Caixin Global Can anyone find the original report What did that one say|1 Someone coughAuthor CLOSE ALL AIRPORTS PORTS AND BORDERSDoes he want countries to shut down a city whenever they see a few hundred people having the flu|0 lmao Italy is going to ask The Mafia the same thing|1 Its pointless Reddit hates amazon no matter what facts you bring to the table|0 Even if 50 of the species died from this thered still be 35billionish ppl around So humans are gonna survive Coronavirus and society is on a doomed path from climate changeecological collapse so its not a new concern that civilization will collapse Couple of silver linings to me are that the worse it gets and the more tragic the loss of human lives gives us opportunity to change and nature more opportunities to recover from us|0 Im in Washington and I saw a long line at a Starbucks drive through today I cant believe people are risking their lives and the lives of others for a frappuchino Assholes each and every one of them and especially the CEO of Starbucks for not shutting down entirelyOur family will boycott them forever because of this|0 If it obliterates the death rate then yes|0 The dream of sanitizers is alive in Portland|1 No youre not But you can wear masks and gloves And if they say anything Just say I have fragile people at home that Im not willing to risk their health for If they fire you for wearing PPE Then let them You can collect unemployment Quitting wont let you collect unemployment|0 My girlfriend recently lost her subsidized health insurance because she got a new job and her employer offers health insurance in their benefits package Apparently if your employer offers their own plans your no longer eligible for plans on the marketplace The monthly premiums for her employers plan cost more than she makes in a month working 5060 hours a week|0 Those who would look to benefit like those who are running for election They also want to get their money out of the markets before they crash|1 Hospitals use them there are definitely industrial size UV lights out there|1 In the medical sector helping people should be placed first before profit|1 This is really great Excellent job Suggestion implement a rolling 24 hour new cases option if possible since many countries like Italy release new cases all at once at the same time every day so they will appear to have no new cases for a significant portion of the day otherwise This is especially impactful because your standard sorting for countries is by new cases and right now Italy doesnt appear at all|1 What a dick|0 Still hope shitty things happen to him|0 Not surprising at all Whats really disgusting though is that these companies will not try and stop this so long as it does not impact their bottom line|0 I would guess that there are far fewer obese young people in NL compared with other countries Smoking habits on the other hand who knows I know that amongst the kids teenagers in Canada there is a LOT of vaping going on|1 A chav is like a crackhead who doesnt smoke crack By all other means they are indeed a crackhead but they just smoke weed and do cheap coke on weekends from the profit off buying an oz and selling an amount to recoup what you paidie paying 200 so sell 20 1918 grams but split across 20 bags 10 a bag keeping the remainder of the weed or selling some more to pay for more cokeThey hang out in parks and for some reason outside Mcdonalds McDonalds is easily the Church of Chav Im yet to see one in the UK that isnt inundated with them|1 Yeah its easy to get caught up in the cycle of panic If youre here reading this we are much the same Hitting up the coronavirus related subreddits sorting by new and constantly getting information Probably loading up a coronavirus tracker map and checking on your country to see how the numbers changed since last nightlast hour But well get through this it might be rough and people will die but weve survived worst in the past|0 No one can help you they are all dealing with their own nightmareOr your government tried to overthrow thembombed themdamage their economy stole from them in the past|1 Its scary Its like a badge of honour to come with the best MLM scheme that cant possibly work|1 then they should all step out and protest cant make their owners money if everyone leaves|0 Not an option for countless people Whether you like it or not this is what is happening when our middle and lower class are finally at the mercy of the system We cant afford to go out and we cant afford to stay home|1 Hello Weary Donkey I just left the house for the first time in a week Im working from home mostly Next wednesday I have a party my employer organizes every year for all of their employees in the Netherlands I think around 3000 people will be there from all over the country Im hoping they will cancel so I dont have to bail on my colleagues|1 Good Move stuff out of China No arguments from me|0 Now there is reporting that there are 2 strains of SARScov2 and Italy and Iran look to be way higher than 2 Also we are still very early into the outbreak to claim more or less than 2 BUT I believe just from my own assessment of all of the information that I have seen that it could turn out to be on the higher side The big unknown is the asymptomatic or less severe cases could bring the number down substantially but this does not give me comfort due to the fact that this illness takes so long to come to a conclusion|0 Either authorities are pulling back inventory for healthcare OR authorities do not want the public to use up the scarce reserves of PPE at this point I am not sure when the optimal point in time would be for general public to use masks Maybe after a quarantaine|1 For her defense mechanism she could totally cough on all of them Super effective|1 Everything fine here from Milan We must stay strong|1 LOL|1 But i thought trump was the expert and knew that no matter what coronavirus would dissapear when summer comes s|0 Well for starters we could maybe not prop up toxic industry|1 Thanks|1 Say you have 100 people who are infected out of 10000 airport passengers You detected 37 of them they were quarantined and you managed to ensure they didnt spread the disease However youve now got 63 people who did get in They are in the country for six days before symptoms show and then they call in Within that six days perhaps 1 or 2 were infectious days They each infected 1 other person Now there are 120 cases in the country Of the 100 who were originally going to get in there are now 120 cases inside the country A 37 success rate in quarantining people is basically a failure|0 In Texas we have limitations on items and certain hours only for the elderly Hopefully Maine gets with the program soon|1 Okay can you tell me what i am missing about the dutch healthcare system|0 Thanks redditor|1 Seriously Im from Cincinnati and there has never been a truer quote about this city|0 Ok doomer|1 From a dr on the front lines in Bergamohttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhehttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhex200BIn classical flu besides that it infects much less population over several months cases are complicated less frequently only when the virus has destroyed the protective barriers of our airways and as such it allows bacteria which normally resident in the upper airways to invade the bronchi and lungs causing a more serious disease Covid 19 causes a banal flu in many young people but in many elderly people and not only a real SARS because it invades the alveoli of the lungs directly and it infects them making them unable to perform their function The resulting respiratory failure is often serious and after a few days of hospitalization the simple oxygen that can be administered in a ward may not be enough|0 He already cleared his rally schedule Quietly with no announcement Just simply removed all pending eventsI posted about it with a link to the Trump 2020 event page I was moderated Told not to bring up political topics|0 yea true but i dont feel up in arms it is just that whenever god is invoked when people are doing good OR evil it becomes a distraction to what actually is going on after all who wants to piss off god|0 let them IN HARVARD edit lol tok on ur rov na foot|1 3998HA who am I kidding 3997|1 I hate trump|0 A precaution because the child is showing symptoms A precaution because the childs symptom COULD turn into ones that would require the ICU which could be overcrowded by that timeLike Holy fuck what is it with you people and your trying to calm everyone at any cost even ignoring reality The kid could get worse is symptomatic and they put him where he could get the assistance he needs if his condition worsens as a PRECAUTION|0 You know he has that ridiculously long and firm handshake too Holy shit hes got it 100 percent|0 it is both In Asia people wear masks very regularly when in transit while sick and for air pollutionx200BEveryone has masks on right now in Thailand and that is with a severe shortagex200BMany Americans I know do not think masks are helpful at all because that is what the CDC said|0 I am a licensed provider trained and based in the United StatesThats from his about page but thats not very specific|1 Do you have a source for sweden only testing people with pneumonia or are you just making it up Contact tracing have been testing people close to found cases and those make up a large portion of the total casesThere have been 3100 tests done in the stockholm region alone thats as many tests as denmark has done in the whole countryLimiting testing is disappointing but if the resources are limited you have to prioritize|0 UV destroys the polymers|0 I am fully prepped in case a pandemic hits and hospitals are overrun and I aint telling nobody because I dont want them taking it from me|0 Dont forget to squeeze the lime in as well though|1 Thanks|1 Those reports you mention are definitely propaganda This thing is deadly Get your shit in order asap 3|0 Try matching 10 deaths But were arguing over a couple of days|0 WHO and UK advice DONT contradict each other There is just some finesse in the timing There is a lot of consensus out there for not shutting school early Im happy with the way chief medical and science officers are handling this httpswwwcgdevorgblogresponsibleresponseexaminingukgovernmentscovid19strategy|1 Please tell me its lasers thatd be cool|1 Just to give an idea of scale according to this article the average number of people crossing the border is 300000day httpswwwcbccanewscanadathecanadausborderbythenumbers1999207 Fun fact There are even anomolous places in CanadaUS like Campobello NB where you have to drive through the other country to get to the nearest hospital in your own country|1 I heard that in germany if someone has another illness aswell as coronavirus they will record the other illness as cause of death|0 I mean he goes around in hospitals and areas with infected for days Only using those surgical masks that dont do anything you need the N95 mask that seals around your faceIt is pretty insane how people are going to 45 hospitals trying to get tested So spreading the disease as much as possible Even if they didnt have it before if they had just had a cold they come into contact with infected waiting in long lines for hours and hours next to them|0 Theyre obviously not very smart if theyre going Maybe booksmart but not IQsmart|0 Also there are other forms of communism besides MarxismLeninism There was an entire theory of democratic socialism leading to communism a classless moneyless stateless society developed in the West that was suppressed by the Leninists and later Stalinists and Maoists Once Leninism Stalinism and Maoism failed this ruined the reputation of communism in most of the world and paved the way for the neoliberal system we have today Again not claiming to be a communist just giving new perspectives to consider Neoliberalism isnt the only option|0 The baristas hand will now not touch publics cup and spread microbes|1 court documents are showing 30 infected patients in CA These were unaccounted for in CDC official website and communications|0 I should be clear that I dont mean the US is competent when other nations are not I mean that theres a difference between not testing suspected cases because you cant and not testing suspected cases because you wont|1 I disagree with the poster it would be better to train the public and give them neighborhood responsibilities People with a purpose are less likely to panic|0 Thats how I feel watching TV at all these days I think to myself wow all those people in one room out in the city hanging in crowded bars theyre all going to get sickIts kind of hard to watch because prior to this I never thought about how much contact communities have it was just the normIm curious to see how our society will change after we get past this telecommuting totally normalized Small business swallowed up by chains who could withstand the shutdown More gravity given to the environmental crisis Who knows its a pivotal time in history and its crazy to be living through it and watching from my little apartment|0 That wouldnt even be a conspiracy theory Thats just Americans picking the wrong kinds of people to lead their country who then pick bad fits for the appointee jobs|0 That wasnt revealedThere was a section where they were talking about his salary and stuff when this was brought up a 10 mil offer from China and a blank Cheque from NAIf i had to guess tho i would say RNG since having Uzi and Faker on the same team would probably make them the most popular team by a mile and they were apparently trying for Korean mids after worlds as per the rumors|1 The part of this I hate is that for some reason people think its totally fine to get pneumonia no matter what age I had it when I was a kid as well as a hole in my lung I was out in the hospital for like 2 maybe 3 weeks I was 3 it beat my ass I dont give a flying titty what age I am I dont want Covid19 just cause Karen thinks Ill be fine because Im in my 20s Hard pass on pneumonia|0 Its funny for no big deal they shut down their New Year which is equivalent to Thanks Giving and Christmas put over 60 million and counting people down in lock down prolong the break till the 10th ask factories to delay opening until MarchIf that is no big deal I like to know what the fuck is a big deal|1 I agree This is a genocide going on|1 Do you remember the fuel shortage we had after Harvey People are gonna go wild after it hits them|0 This plus what the just the flu folks are going to end up doing while they dance around with their relatively mild case is they are going to put their elderly and already sick relatives in significant danger This virus is really really bad for those people|0 Italian here yesterday I was talking to a girl and she was complaining about the lack of controls at airports She said she was in Hong Kong and came back to Italy just Wednesday and there were no controls nor at the airport MXP i guess nor in the plane|0 They have done literally nothing to stop it No quarantines no shutting down public transportation My moms a doctor and even medical personnel dont have the means to keep themselves safe Theyre only telling people to wash their hands and stay away from the sick Shit Sounds just like what the incompetent German government has been saying the past couple of weeks|0 I dont understand what you wanted to say in your last comment with quoting what I think I heard In the video he was talking about the WHO and their statements about travel so I just randomly picked that one since you chose no particular point of his to refuteSorry but your ad hominem attempt is going nowhere Like I said choose some of his points to refute or just shut up Stop using ad hominem arguments to attack him instead of what he said Your flawed logic is useless here|0 My kid is in one of the schools He said that one of his teachers yesterday told the class at length that the whole thing was no big deal because Pennsylvania wouldnt be getting affected anytime soon One for ragedlikemilk|0 Thats unfortunate but was going to be my rec frozen fruitveggies or canned veggies I dont really eat fruit besides frozen put into smoothies so I dont know if they make canned fruit Edit plus its easier to lysol freezer bagscans|1 Been watching this since the beginning of January Been warning people since mid January now people are listening but it may be to late for them to get supplies|0 Theres no excuse but thats not the priority of this administrationThey just didnt feel like it|0 Shit lets go with salacious acts and sodomy|0 There are a lot of health care workers that rely on schools to watch their kids If theyre to young to stay home alone then those people cant go to work And older kids tend to meet up if the school is closed so it spreads among them anyway|1 Honestly I expect parks like that will be closed soon if theres a significant outbreak in the us|1 This is the thing I dont get the UK said something similar about not closing schools yet Its so fucking stupidIts like The kitchens on fire Should we put the fire out Nah not yet Wait until the rest of the house is on fire then well try to put it out|0 Noooooo They cut funding and massively under staffed and over worked it just for fun|1 I appreciate the response I had managed to speak with someone on the 811 hotline and what I was told was I needed to have confirmation I was infected with the virus in order to qualify for sick leave but that was 4 days ago As for sick leave I understand I have to have a doctors note to apply but unfortunately I have no doctor available I was with one office years ago but because I hadnt gone to see the doctor in a few years I was bumped off the list of patients Calling around my municipality Im out of luck to find any doctor who is accepting new patients A bit of a tight spot especially at the onset of a pandemic outbreakI do want to keep away from people because if Im not feeling well that is the responsible thing to do I just dont know how it can be applied to reality when many are living paycheque to paycheque and have no sick days or vacation time to cash in so they do in fact get to self isolate in a way that doesnt impact their lives in a dramatic way Every bit helps even if it is just EI sick leave and to have a bit of supplement come in right away would be helpful Still wont pay all the bills and mortgage like my regular pay would but hopefully my mortgage institute and utilities would understand and not charge insane interest on unpaid due dates|0 Found the manhating feminist My reply was intended to be helpful please kindly take your bad juju out of here as it isnt helpful to anyone Acting like you have some kind of inside view into the dynamics of their relationship based on this single post is whats bullshit|1 gonna be a awkward quarantine|0 How people should behave about topics they dont know well about Especially when they are famous and have huge influence|1 there is a distillery in my small town that stopped making moonshine and vodka and started making hand sanitizer and are giving it away free to elders|1 Yes thanks China if it wasnt for you wedallhave the virus|1 Best hope is for a delayed spread Its R0 should be reduced in the states due to geography lower population density and less pollution If you can slow the rate to a level that local outbreaks are manageable by local health authorities you should see a much improved recovery and mortality rate If you can reduce the speed of infection then you can potentially hit summer which is hard for Coronaviruses and will help further slow the spread Fall and Winter you will see a resurge but any news of a new vaccine should be on the horizon at that point In terms of economic productivity the world might go into a recession but overall people will soldier on|1 This is the same administration that rolled back environmental regulations and denies climate change for short term economic gain so yeah Id say calling them short sighted is accurate|1 Yep It really do be like that I know I have been following this since January and it seems like all of this is falling into place the way we thought it would worstcasescenario style Since this virus can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days we have to be proactive but our government is only reactive|1 Steely Dan is great Fck the kids who think otherwise|1 What if it takes 20 years to find a treatment for this like HIV Is this the new way of life Constant waves of lethal disease every few months|1 I just mean all the times he uses I have trouble understanding anything hes saying its like hes starting an idea and not finishing it|0 At this point one has to wonder if theyre deliberately trying to infect us all The level of incompetence here is so staggering I have no words truly no words It has turned into an art form|0 Is this a typo from the NYT If 05 of 320000 generally random samples tested positive there are not 1500 cases in Guangdong population 113 million there are 575000|1 But my friend Chris said it was just a flu Heart goes out to all the medical staff fighting this war I hope the NHS get all the help thats physically possible|0 Oof indeedhttpsiimgurcomfguWxFspng You have oofed 1 times Oof Leaderboard1 uDavidDidNotDieYet at 1073 oofs2 uConeYT at 1028 oofs3 utheReddestBoi at 472 oofs4 uPyggimeni at 291 oofs5 uODSEESDO at 241 oofs6 uToughRhubarb1 at 176 oofs7 uPopeyesChickenNotKFC at 134 oofsI am a bot Comment stop for me to stop responding to your comments|0 Thank you|1 People are mostly stupid in US not coming back home until June|0 Flee to where The whole country is on lockdown Well I guess you can flee to Lugano Switzerland or other nearby countries which also have COVID19 pandemic|1 Wait howi thought this needs to go through 12 years of safety trials Not to mention it could take years longer to even approve it Can someone explain|1 I ordered one on Amazon the other day but it got lost in the mail Having to reorder one now hopefully it arrives before I ever need to use it Hopefully I never have to use it really|1 No there have been many outbreaks like this over the last 20 years All of them got widespread media attention and all of them were eventually contained|1 Doubt she even needed to go the ER right If you are young like this you can easily overcome pneumonia right|1 THANK GOD ITS JUST THE FLU|1 The Pope really seems to be a good man relative to others who have had that job|1 Yep this is winding down anyday now S|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 That is around a billion people dead|0 Yes I live here and have been commenting on the sub for a while Update from someone on the ground1 its everywhere My rural town has multiple cases with no travel history and as of yesterday we have a legal curfew2 my fiance works at a regional hospital Yesterday was the tipping point They already had 2 patients in the hospital and as of like 4pm yesterday everyone is required to wear masks and ppe at all times People also began flooding the er with cough fever Still no tests available3 most of the state is trump country and they arent news people My parents are having a family party this weekend complete with out of state family and the grandparents When I told them that I didnt want to go visit because of the virus my stepdad told me to come anyway because he doesnt live in fear they are not unusual for the area4 no masks for weeks Now no paper products and very little produce Last few days at the grocery store theres like 3 potatoes and an onion left5 layoffs all over I personally have been out of work for two weeks and havent heard from the unemployment office as of yet I can only hopeAlso im not happy hearing that this is in Albany I have a job interview scheduled there soon I guess thats over too Uhhh ama|0 From my calculations the first person in Germany was infected 13 days ago Some others were later Its hard to tell from the articles because they say things like Last Tuesday instead of dates but thats what it looks like|1 I feel like its one of those kill it with fire situations where you just want to do anything you can to feel like youre fighting back against this thing if spraying the streets down spares 1 person of catching it then it was worth it over not doing this|0 Christ youre stretching Its pathetic|0 What does a test do for you Youre told to self isolate so you do that if you tested and were positive guess what theyd tell you to do Self isolate doesnt change the outcome|1 Bleach is like the viral holocaustThat is very memorable ha ha Thanks|1 No in last few years they upgraded their ban methods Before 2013 I guess it could be bypassed via DNS changing now certain sites are IP banned and you need to use VPNs Also Tor used to work but now you cant even download it without VPN I dont know how but they use every opportunity to cause a DNS leak too If you are not careful even with a VPN you may not access blocked sitesEverybody in Turkey knows how to change DNS and use vpns they literally increased the IT consciousness of people|1 I hold a different viewpoint to be entirely honest And some people might find it altogether entirely realistic but here goes Lets say I get the coronavirus and I immediately head to the hospital I get on the metro to go to the hospital but three people on the metro get infected by me Those three go on to infect three others each and so on and so forth I feel entirely responsible for the people I infected and any possible deaths that result afterwards down the chain of coronavirus infections I caused I bear equally as much responsibility for infecting someone who infects someone else who died from it as much as the person who directly infected the person who died|0 The market crash is literally the only way I can get most people to even acknowledge the coronavirus So many have no idea about the virus the stock market or that this is affecting their 401ks This has really opened my eyes to exactly how clueless people actually are So absorbed with the little world they live in|0 Among all of the advice to wash our hands refrain from touching our faces and keep a safe social distance there has been nothing on how to sanitize our phones and other handheld devices I suspect they are covered with germs What can we do What should we use to clean them|1 Nah hes just got diarrhea Nothing to worry about really|1 I was gonna ask why this doesnt have the good news flair lol|1 With current diagnostic methods eg RTqPCR purified RNA is used in the input This will of course enable maximum efficiency and sensitivity but requires skill and instrumentation in addition to adding extra time to the diagnostic workflow We investigated whether it is possible to perform detection using crude cell lysate in order to avoid this RNA purification step The results indicated that 480 copies were detected with all four primer sets a similar sensitivity as the detection sensitivity with synthetic RNA alone Fig 3A with no interference by the lysate to either the amplification efficiency or visual color change In conclusion colorimetric LAMP provides a simple rapid method for SARSCoV 2 RNA detection Not only purified RNA can be used as the sample input but also direct tissue or cell lysate may be used without an RNA purification step This combination of a quick sample preparation method with an easy detection process may allow the development of portable field detection in addition to a rapid screening for pointofneed testing applications|0 I stopped taking it as well because I read that the usual steroids are immun suppressents and thus make you more vulnerable to the Virus But this article seems to indicate the opposite|0 I think this is very reasonable to recommend over 70s isolate Nursing homes should have the strictest controls Recommending schools close when young people have almost zero health impacts is crazy though|0 Same as yesterday thank you|1 No money in it for big pharma I guess|0 Update please|1 Elon Musk just posted on Twitter that we are stupid for panicing about the virus So irresponsible|0 So yes when it comes to virus and the disease it causes having 2 different names you are right For example HIV is the virus And AIDS is the disease that the HIV virus causes Or Hepatitis is the virus And Cirrhosis LiverFailure is the disease the Hepatitus virus causes Or human papillomavirus is the name of the virus and cancer is the disease it causes And SARSCoV2 is the virus and COVID 19 respiratory illness is the disease that the virus causes ETC|0 India is gonna be real scary if they get it Cant imagine they have the ability to deal with it|0 Cows are dumb especially socially|0 I just ordered a bottle of quercetin to have on hand just in case|1 Its not worth knowing|0 Christ thanks for the info stay safe and dont touch your face|1 Of course it is its becoming less of the total But the numbers are still at testing capacity I just talked a friend who works in the infectious diseases ward in a hospital in Guangzhou and they told me two key points theres a backlog for tests its taking even Guangdong several days to turn around tests and theyve has a number of suspicious deaths already but wont test those who have already died because they prioritize actual living people who they could help|0 I had H1N1 it was absolutely miserable By week two I was ready to put a gun in my mouth but it hurt too much to move Hope he gets better soon and doesnt get hit hard|1 The only one who has simultaneously listened to info from the worlds leading experts AND put out the idea that the vaccine will be ready in 3 months is Trump Its insane that he is the leader of a country|0 Implying China cares more about their citizens is a bit of a stretch|1 A lot of people are criticising the UK strategy but many people the medical field support it too how are we to know what the right thing to do is|1 Well I think they were forced to do that because stupid Belgians were flocking across the border to go shop and dine in the Netherlands|0 Initially maybe but absent countless regulations such demand wouldve created a huge incentive for various companies to develop and manufacture those testkits which wouldve driven the prices downCapitalism absent regulation trends towards monopoly alwaysThe one or two big pharma companies would form a cartel and decide what price they want to sell the test kits forId prefer an ostensibly democratically elected government to be in charge At least I can try hold someone accountable then|1 Pretty similar in the US except that instead of threatening a fine the president tells you to suck it up and go to work|0 My partner is American and he said he prefer squatty toilet because I dont want to sit on someone elses butt location Bring your own napkintissue is annoying though|0 In what would be the busiest time of the year the government literally quarantined entire cities for if we believe their numbers double digit cases Their economy went to ruin in the past month due to forced vacations from the central government They also literally built a new hospital in a week in WuhanOur response so far is so much worse|0 The most densely populated and wealthiest part of the country who will travel all over the country Good luck with containing that|1 Optimistic|1 Well said|1 Im sure theyre trying This new traffic has got to be utterly overwhelming|1 yep what im more afraid of than covid19|1 I have a contact at one of the US national labs Work is being done as we speak to test a hypothesis that because of COVID19s high affinity for binding to ACE2 the people on meds that convert ACE1 to ACE2 are at higher risk for more severe infection Give it a few days and see what NIH comes out with|0 Theres now a report coming out from the Mayor of Wuhan stating 5 millions Wuhanese have left the city Have you seen such a report in Qingdhan Is this a hoax if not then this could be more severe than we had thought |0 I lost some hair from pulling it out but felt good about challenging her beliefs The only time I got to her was when I said I hope its like the flu and it could be this was last weekwas trying to work with her a little bit but the bottom line is we dont know and to assume a novel virus is like the flu is ignorant|1 Hard to predict where that will be ahead of time The spanish flu agrees|0 I hadnt read this until just now Im not new to reddit and muchmuch older than 5 Theres a lot of quality posts and comments on reddit Its hard to filter out the good ones And its getting harder|1 Same with Moon Hes kinda progressive but more of a moderate hes Catholic and nationalist incompetent is very subjective as half of the country supports him and half doesnt he was special forces and pro Communist is absurdI have a suspicion OP might be a hardline conservative|0 Based on rates of infection it will take 200 days at least until this shit is over|0 Same lol I look at it as weve built a life that we have no desire to escape from|1 Meanwhile in eu we keep struggling to decide if we should test patients with virical pneumonia without known contact with China|0 Pneumonia fucks you up for life I got it as a child and yes Significantly less lung supply|0 TBH this is the first time in my life Ive HOPED to catch a regular cold That way I have an excuse to shut myself in at home call off work and not get shit about it|1 Wow Thank you so much Why is this not being used in Seattle Or is itEdit upon readingskimming the paper it appears that hydroxychloroquine is simply useful in preventing the cytokine storm and it is not effective as an antiviral treatment Did you get that out of it as well|1 Yup okay The governor was talking about parks so|1 Shit Weve cracked it|0 Also the cat problem|0 why dont you have your police registration form or your work permiti have these documents we all should from what the immigration officers said that we should have them in addition to our passport at all times I just keep mine as scans in a note in wechat ive had to show them a few times in the past but not during this epidemic problem|0 Same here 3rd and 4th week in December fever cough chills etc for 7 plus days Urgent care gave me antibiotics steroids and bronchial dilator to prevent pneumonia This is not the first time I have had a bad illness 30 or so days before public outcry of any outbreak Any suggestions on how to distinguish I did not get flu tested|0 Well holy sht we did something logical|1 Thanks for being the most sane person on this thread Theres some real hysteria going on And as of today my birthday no less Ive woken up and am going to be way more careful|0 Can we impeach local officials If not how do we fire them now|0 Yeah its like investing in a penny stock unlikely to be a winner but cheap and big reward if it pays out I recommend checking out iHerb Amazon has a bad habit of jacking up prices the minute demand rises|1 Some western countries are trying like Austria and arguably Poland Others like us just arent trying because money lives|1 Most popular cases so far1 Tom Hanks2 Rudy Gobert3 Sophie Trudeau4 Donovan Mitchell 5 Mikel Arteta|1 Unfortunately its illegal in some US states to buy Everclear vodka|0 Good news is I just came from the liquor store and theyre well stocked|1 Spoken like a true skeptical cynic This person gets it|1 This is funny but not funny cuz I understand this|1 Perfect example of why the numbers in the US are potentially VASTLY underestimated The ostrich approach we Federal government and WHO are taking is going to get as lot of people killed|0 The problem with vaccines is that not only do you kill a person if the treatment doesnt work but you risk worsening the virus and making it more immune creating even mutations more deadly|0 Chances are theyre at higher risk then the lower end of the employees fuck me if that wouldnt be karma|0 There is a cap of 60000 income for that calculation so you pay 9000 year 750 month max But that covers all essential treatment and is the maximum price tag already|0 Good luck trying to convince my family I will literally give all of my money to the person who can convince my family to stay home|1 So this is my plan I hope others utilize it too Im going to make a shield which I hold with my hand in front of my face Itll be made out of clear plastic vinyl similar to clear shower curtains attached to a plastic handle Easy to clean and I will only hold it up when in close proximity to someoneI also have normal surgical masks but only a few|1 This is World War III Except in this war the world is unified against a common foe Think of the personal sacrifices made during WWI and WWII We will all have to make similar sacrifices We will all have to be brave in the face of a terror we cant detect but know is presentThe worlds healthcare professionals are soldiers on the front lines We must do what we can to support them|0 in the article i posted it says what they first called it which is very similar to covid19 you can easily see the similarities|1 Surprisingly no For whatever miracle the very young dont seem to get severe cases of COVID19 and are likely more dangerous as carriers to their parents than the other way around|0 Mardi gras day was on 225 over 2 weeks ago Its absolutely possible it just hasnt caught up to me yet But most cases incubate for uder 14 days per the CDC And if I have it then its likely that my wife has it and either the group of friends I was with all weekend or my family would have it Or their neighbors as of right now no one has shown symptoms|1 Whats really going on here THE STORM HAS FINALLY ARRIVEDBrace Yourself Folks We the people will be fine|1 Thank you|1 i hate colorado but good for them|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 To get infected through skin or a wound I think itd have to be a bloodborne pathogen which its not Im not an expert but Im pretty sure it cant happen|1 Even in the San Francisco Bay Area its incredible to think about how many kids dont have access You would think between the tech innovation hubs that are Seattle and SF Bay Area that it would be a nobrainer But its notI occasionally guest substitute teach so I see firsthand what the reality is|1 Any good pandemic novels|1 Why is this being downvoted Yes we need to slow the spread but how are they going to handle students who depend on those meals or parents who now have to make extremely tough decisions These questions need answers|0 Useless factoid but thanks for sharing Now I get where these names come from|1 I think everything that needs to be said has been said Thanks for everyones contribution|1 Except that theyre the ones who keep fucking voting for our ridiculous healthcare system|0 Delta Air Lines on Sunday said it is suspending flights to Milan Italy until early May Late Saturday American Airlines said it is suspending Milan flights through April 24The moves come after the US State Department on Saturday raised the travel warning for northern Italy to its highest level Level 4 a do not travel alert United is the only US carrier flying to Italy that has not cut service since the heightened alert level was announced But United Chief Executive Oscar Munoz told employees on Saturday that additional route cuts are likely in a note sent to staffers praising them for their efforts during the coronavirus epidemic|0 Im basically illiterate when it comes to this stuff how is this significant compared to other viruses like flu|1 Weird way to say all|0 Well they are still technically trying to get home today so no|0 My close family member has 4 patients at their hospital that have tested positive This is at a smaller hospital not in a major city|1 Let me guess those were for profit jails|1 They only have a finite number of test kits at this time Travellers showing symptoms pose the biggest risk of spreading the virus|0 Totally understand the concernI havent been to any of those locations this last week I definitely think its possible there are lots of asymptomatic people walking around without knowing they are passing it along but its impossible to know because of how quickly it spreads Please continue to be cautious when you go out and pay attention to any symptomsThat is so kind thank you so much I hope your family stays safe|1 So does that mean USA is going to have our own videos of people collapsing in the streets|0 And they take the weekend offNational health emergency What emergency Its Friday|0 Is this sample representative Over 70 of the cases in Lombardy and only one other region had a percentage in double digits The news reports made it sound like all of Italys hospitals are maxed out|1 Im keeping small bottles of disinfectant next to every sink asking people spray it after turning on the tap wash hands dry tap with paper towel then dry hand with cloth towel But thats at home Not sure Id get compliance at the office|1 The worst part is that even with something like COVID 19 to give us a reality check about the flaws in our system there are still people who wont vote for their own best interests|1 I mean if you are going to criticize someone here it should be the teachers that give out the homework not the tool that they use to do so while also giving other useful functionalities They could give out to much homework before google classroom and they might do after they stop using it|1 My mom is 80 and she isnt going anywhere I canceled her April appointment with her rheumatologist Im only 56 and am only leaving the house to take my teenagers to and from school Unfortunately I return to work Monday and start with what A large group orientation SMH and this is for a county job in California Some people just dont think|0 And so many people will say Oh well its just the elderly Breaks my heart how poorly our elderly are treated|1 Well in the first while there was doubt that it was spreading human to human so theres that first of allThen even later on we know some doctors were going in without adequate protection given that a Beijing researcher was reported as contracting it after a visit to Wuhan to inspect the local situation He speculated he caught it via his eyes which naturally made a big splash in the media about OH MY GOD ITS SPREADING THROUGH THE EYES NOW|1 100 agreed Not sure why people need the gov to tell them to stay the fuck home but hey STAY HOME|0 Honestly expected hed say 3k or 2k and a freeze on rent mortgage utility debt repayments and health insurance premiums and deductibles 2k is not enough for most people but better than 1k 1k just barely covers rent and mortgage for most people The issue is people in high salaried positions working from home and people with a lot in their savings dont need it at all and its a waste giving them the same amount Those who lost their job or dont have a job need it really bad|0 If this virus hides out like shingles this virus could have a massive death rate that simply takes a long time to develop Think of it like this It infects you and you fight it off It hides inside of your nervous systems and pops back out It uses its dengue fever like reinfection characteristics to be stronger this second time You somehow fight it off but then it pops back up to kill your heavily scarred body So it could be designed with a slow killing cycle of infection scarring dormancy and reinfection designed to weaken your body over time to lower panic|0 We have thousands of data points so sample size is adequate The reported numbers are statistically significant Do you disagree U want to do a Chisquare test on the dataIt is accurate to think of it as a 10x deadlier flu It is transmissible similar to flu not similar to SARS I am refuting the statement that is closer to SARS than flu That is factually false It is not flu it is its own thing But it is closer to flu fatality transmission rate than it is to SARS Give me data if you disagree not your worthless words and opinion|0 Doing better than Japan Theyd rather pretend it doesnt exist so they can still say they arent postponing the 2020 Olympics|1 My guess would be that they couldnt easily dispose of the tens of thousands of guests they had staying at their resorts Logistical things like flights and they surely wouldnt try to quarantine anyone in their hotel room so they kept the park openI dont think Disney was trying to squeeze two more days of park revenue out of it but I could be totally wrong|0 The real kick in the teeth is that if young people also require hospitalization it means the fatality rate for them is below its potential at the moment Once the elderly and sick saturate the hospitals the ICU admission rate for young people will become the new case fatality rate|0 I have thought about this But I havehad pretty close contact with three people on a regular basis If one of us caught it we definitely all do So we would all have to be asymptomatic|1 I wonder what a Chinese response would be if you pointed out proper rest breaks would have kept him alive to save mrke chinese people and would be a bigger personal contribution to the country They might stroke out or just glitch|1 Might have to find some new candidates for 2020 as well|1 Ok so just say they want to control the population then why they block off the city and cause the economy to crash If they want it to spread they should do the complete opposite Or you think CCP hate money so they want to bleed themselves dry CCP is bad for controlling this virus but your claim is outlandish|0 Flu shot in my country isnt free but its like 20|1 Gotta be honest with you Italys postal service has always ground to a halt That said in Italy mail is still running IIRC Theyre not cutting USPS at least not the way it stands now|1 That does not mean hes immune to the virus that means he will beat the shit out of it|1 Its fascinating watching the different psychological reactions to this crisisThere are plenty of doomsayers but on the other side of the coin there also plenty of people who respond with denial its not so badits just the flujust wash your hands etc etcBoth extremes should be seen for what they are ie slightly irrational responses to a fear inducing situation But the fact that people are going OTT one way or the other doesnt actually tell us anything about how serious this virusI dont think it is at all over the top to think this has the potential to be one of the most significant historical events of the 21st century its having a huge impact across the globe already|0 Makes sense a good contingency but sounds like its a very real and imminent possibility I wonder if this would be a UK wide thing or local authority decision|1 Agree reading this sub is really bad for peoples mental health it seems myself included|0 No thanks I dont need a celebrity or sports figure to make me have a sudden awakening I am listening to the professionals and doing it already The numbers of infection in other countries are pretty much all you need on their own even if you werent following the experts take on this|1 It doesnt make sense that its not blowing up in other places Did Iran really act so differently than the countless other countries where infected people have traveled|0 If this happens in china two thirds of the commentators would be having sex with ccp rn lol|1 The surprisingly low level of severe illness on the cruise ship despite the old age grouping suggest something is going on WuhanIranItaly we are seeing common severe illness in people over 40 On the cruise ship its only 75 age that are succumbing|0 Thank you|1 Nice concern trolling Comparing what Trump is doing to Obamas healthcare is ridiculous|1 Its already killed a lot of people|0 Its the same with the UK Labour party groups Im a part of People are constantly posting that the UK government is just condemning everyone to death its really starting to get on my nerves|0 And that is in less than a week of growth|1 There was a study done showing permanent lung scarring as well So even if you survive you might get a souvenir|1 His idea was 1000 per month And yes this is an idea ahead of its time|1 Southerner here everyone Ive talked to about it is of the idea that god has a plan for them and prayer will keep them safe Its real great Guess all the people dying just didnt pray enough Or maybe just maybe it was gods plan that they die|1 Thats kind of adorable actually|1 Lmao the sheer fucking hubrisWhen entities in China do it its This is the problem with culture that places so much importance on the concept of faceBut when it comes to the West In the West the numbers are true at best and exaggerated in favor of the negative at worst and when faced with evidence to the contrary None of that has anything to do with what I was talking about Reminds me of the narcissists prayer Lying The word youre looking for is lying They lied repeatedly to get away with fraud No fucking shit Thats exactly my point Oh wait doesnt that contradict your claim that In the West the numbers are true at best and exaggerated in favor of the negative at worst YES IT DOES Perhaps you can elaborate on how Enrons accounting ties into the modern mainstream media reporting on societal crises like a viral pandemicIf you think that Enrons fake info to the public didnt fuck over vast swaths of people their lives their livelihoods their retirements etc then you are a fool|0 This is how the loans were designed to be paid the only thing I could have done is paid the loans because theyre a cluster or them with the lower interest rates off first|1 Well said|1 Thats the goddamn spirit cowboy|0 Oh my god if its so wrong just delete and resubmit it correctly|0 Hi dr ColeAre people without a Spleen in the high risk group|0 What are some of the symptoms to look out for I flew round trip to Puerto Rico a week ago I feel good but I do have a little extra phlegm in my throat I had pneumonia back in October and I am immune compromised because of graves disease Should I be worried|0 Or if they announced the disease publicly but did not lock down the city People from Wuhan will be fleeing to other provinces and abroad potentially bringing the virus with them all while the entire world know about zero about it It was a delicate situation with many potential outcomes|1 In many parts of China they did Wuhan is in full lock down They should put Lombardy in full lockdown too Its not like that if you work these two weeks you will avoid an economic disaster The stop in China will have a big worldwide economic impact even if all of Lombardy goes to work|0 Same Im in my thirties and terrified I could give it to someone else|0 No but I did stay at a Holiday In Express last nightEdit There would be far more than 11 Deaths A lot more recoveries And at least one hospital dealing with a cluster of cases that they are overwhelmed by Not evidence but food for thought|1 Can you guys all migrate to rcoronavirus Or is this the racist version of that sub|0 I had read somewhere sorry I dont remember where Ive read too many things that some hospitals were directing people to not print things out and hang them on the walls because it would be outdated in a matter of days Might be the case here|0 Honestly it needs too We need to stand up for ourselves America has Stockholm syndrome|1 Ive been reporting them as offtopic and hoping the mods agree Sadly this sub does not have an offtopic rule|1 Good paper thanks for liking it thats gonna send me down a rabbit hole though since my knowledge of the Rh group is definitely lacking But yeah I think the main answer is there are a lot of other factors like that at play here to balance it and this is a much more complicated system with more than just this viral theory at play|1 Incubation is still days If you work in ER you might have been infected but not hours before the cough but days before|0 I have a cold right now My youngest just got over a flu Ya I wondered if we had the virus because no testing was really done they just based it off of the kids symptoms|0 yes|1 And now we are going to get lost once it reaches the other 20 Latin American countries|0 Australia is taking it somewhat seriously That said the funniest thing is seeing all the Trumpsters defend his actions|1 Internet is downI have a bunch of local content saved as do other household members Riots in the streetsWere good for weeks maybe a few months Sick people knocking at your doorDoor locked with auxiliary door lock as well Sign on door reads Will only open for verified medical personnel ID and previous alternate contact required It wont be Netflix n chill Itll be lockdown and prayMaybe not but the best that you can do is to be prepared|0 Shit I got two toddlers both in the 99th percentile of height They eat more than me|0 This isnt really surprising Even in China theres no real winning in a pandemic unless the whole world is cleared because any easement of restrictions will lead to viral entry from other nations Were all in this together people|1 yeah youre right Last time i went it looked pretty cool The freezers and veggie coolers had the lights on but half the overhead lights were off Made for a nice atmosphere|1 Genuinely curious what does keto which im assuming refers to the keto diet have to do with survival food|1 Thank you for the support I hoping to once Im able to afford therapy and medication again|1 Argument to moderationArgument to moderation Latin argumentum ad temperantiamalso known as false equivalence false compromise argument from middle ground fallacy of gray middle ground equidistance fallacy and the golden mean fallacyis an informal use of flawed reasoning which says that the truth is a compromise between two opposite positionsAn example of a fallacious use of the argument to moderation would be to regard two opposed argumentsone person saying that the sky is blue while another claims that the sky is in fact yellowand conclude that the truth is that the sky is green While green is the colour created by combining blue and yellow therefore being a compromise between the two positionsthe sky is obviously not green demonstrating that taking the middle ground of two positions does not always lead to the truthVladimir Bukovsky maintained that the middle ground between the Big Lie of Soviet propaganda and the truth was itself a lie and one should not be looking for a middle ground between disinformation and information According to him people from the Western pluralistic civilization are more prone to this fallacy because they are used to resolving problems by making compromises and accepting alternative interpretationsunlike Russians who are looking for the absolute truth PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 The markets been pumped since 2008 just because its also happening now doesnt mean its a conspiracy correlation causation|1 I agree what those people are doing in the photo may look idioticbut its true that surgical masks are out of stock in many places some retailers even mark up prices of the masks|1 Taiwan incidentally one of the first countries to ban flights from China is also testing aggressively anyone with pneumonia like symptoms which do not get better after three days of antibiotic treatment|0 And the problem is not all of that is just because theyre living paycheck to paycheck A lot of it is but people have also been so conditioned to believe that youre a lazy pos if you dont work yourself to death That you dont deserve to live if you dont work yourself to death The attitudes surrounding work here are wild|0 It is much worse The government is lying about the infected numbers and deaths|0 youve got to yell MURRRRDAAAAA 5x in a darkened bathroom and hell appear behind you|0 They should know Im all for it On normal days Ive lied and told grocery delivery drivers that I had to run out and please just put bags by the dooras Im hiding behind curtains waiting for them to leave|0 True they tend to think of themselves I immediately had to think of my parents which seem to be super vulnerable to this virus I hope people stay healthy and my deep respect to all the healthcare workers fighting against this Id be too scared to do that tbh|1 Totally fine with it we need it to happen sooner than later|1 When will the US have an actual number of the cases At this point it is hard to believe the lack of testing is unintentional and this is a blatant cover up|0 Oh definitely lots of gaps in the data And there are so many variables that affect the death rate we wont know until much farther along in this pandemic The death rate in the US is ridiculously high right now but we know that barely anyone is getting tested Im really not even considering Chinas numbers either there has been so much shenanigans going on over there|0 tried posting this in the advertised one but my new account had no karma|0 It is not suspicious that they have not let CDC in Its US organization Would US let a Chinese organization in if there was a crisis China sees itself similarly to how US sees itself WHO is international organization so after China realized the seriousness of the issue they were notified and let to be part of this|0 And what of the people who signed this are school kids who dont want to go to school|0 It does matter It may be inevitable that the virus will spread but its important it doesnt spread as fast as it is The last thing the world needs is for our health systems to be at capacity and not be able to treat those that need care Remember that covid19 is already on top of all the other health issues that millions of people are already facing and need treatment for|1 I thought I was being crazy for wanting to bring wipes with me on the subway but now I definitely am Thank you|1 Worst case he has a few percent chance of dying Im gonna place my money on hell be fine|0 We arent going to shut down not for another week or two but youll see targeted lockdown zones pop up around the country first NYC tomorrow then who knows from there A total lockdown will come once aimed lockdowns are proven ineffectivelets hope theyre not Theyre trying to stage us into this they also need to have plans in place for locking down an entire country without crippling the stock marketx200BAlso your critical in keeping supplies moving id assume|1 Im sure youd be much less likely to be infected in a federal prison|0 Seems like Ma is ding more for us than our government 77 tests given Aw come on|1 Do you live in an asthma care ward|1 The N95 mask now being touted as the right one to use for the virus has a body made of paper and one use onlyHalf or whole mask respirators with removable cartridges are reusable but also much much more expensive and complicated to useI have a half mask respirator but it really seems like the whole face ones are better because eye protection is so important|1 Have some tact dude some people absolutely have to get home People have jobs to get back to in the US They cant have an extended stays in europe for the fear of losing their livelihood in America Most jobs arent so forgiving Please try seeing this from different sides instead of blaming innocent passengers for doing their best|0 growth rate and growth factor are different regarding logistic models and the uCreamPuffMarshmallow was actually correct Watch httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKas0tIxDvrg starting 529 to learn about growth factor|1 I called it out a few weeks ago The USA was gonna be hit full force by it because of how little people give a shit about others over there This is serious has been serious since last month but no one is treating it as such For that youll get hit by the full force of the virus sadly|0 Yeah I see it as the same Most people that have died are the old or people that have got bad immune systems I understand that people dont want it to spread to protect those that are in danger from it but I dont think its half as bad as everyone is saying|0 Being deceptive is a great way to get people to distrust you Im not sure this is the best time to have people distrusting medical authorities|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I had to do this when my insurance pulled a fast one said I didnt have the correct information on my hospital shit or whatever then mailed me 60 days after the fact to tell me they wouldnt pay because I didnt fix it within 60 days 10000 I literally laughed at them and told the hospital fuck off talk to my insurance That I have Never heard from it again We seriously live in a dystopian nightmare|0 Is there a chance that this can be confused with the flu My daughter caught the flu twice in the last month and she had already taken flu shots back in December I was surprised but per the doctor she tested positive for the flu Can the flu test give you a false positive|1 During a pandemic it should be cleaned after every single use no excuses The store really shouldnt even be open right now|0 I would definitely take the opportunity to talk to her now If everything goes well thats great but if not letting her know now is better than telling her last minute|1 Yeah the Queensland Government has already passed a stimulus package for affected by business plus its an election year for us in QLD|1 Idk why youre being downvoted youre 100 on point|0 Here you kinda lost me If surgical masks cannot filter out viruses why would they say medical staff does benefit from them My question was about that distinction the govts make between medicspopulaceSecondly how did you conclude that face masks are responsible for the low number of cases in those city states Where do you base that certainty on This seems unrelated to the medicpopulace distinction earlierWhat I have understood about that difference is that masks may benefit people treating corona patients Being intimately involved with a room of them for example at high risk Medical facilities take up the badly affected And that usually its medics being close to them Hence giving them masks makes a huge difference for how many medics get corona as compared to wearing one as general citizen walking outside|1 More like a hunker down and store enough shit to live comfortably for 4 months without power plan|1 They probably should but its extremely rare to cancel them Im guessing they end up delaying them a couple months or something instead of straight cancel|0 The US is full of ignorant peopleYour comment isnt really helping you distance yourself from the pack|0 All HAIL GENIUS ELON ALL HAIL GENIUS ELON ALL HAIL GENIUS ELON HE BUILDS SPACE SHIPS WITH HIS OWN HANDS ALL HAIL GENIUS ELON And while he is on the shitter he puts together tesla cars for fun to help out humanity ALL HAIL GENIUS ELONNOW GET BACK TO WORK SLAVES ITS JUST THE FLU|1 Well I cant take action about that news I will wait for peer reviewed studies Part of the scientific method is the ability to verify the same outcomes of research|1 Im with you Ive been working through the madness and Im terrified I have no choice but to work and all I wanna do is run away Management has no idea how to control the crowds and ensure our safety Myself and my fellow coworkers are at an extreme risk Customer need to be mindful of our health and try and keep a respectful distance when possible If grocery staff starts getting sick yall will be hard pressed to find others willing to risk their health to work Im sure we could and will be replaced but other than the great work of our healthcare and pharmacy workers the health of food store employees need to be considered when you are all scrambling for supplies YOUR ACTIONS HAVE A DIRECT EFFECT ON OTHERS We have to protect ourselves and neighbors Lets look out for each other|1 Thanks I was concerned 6 days ago when everything started getting canceled Now Next level|1 No intention of making fun of the song Its a war song Many anthems are actually related to war like Bella Ciao |0 My only regret is that I only have one downvote to give|0 Keeping the rich rich|1 Thats right they are and kids are going to bars and clubs since its just Boomers there stupid people everywhere|0 The WHO doesnt want to pay out the pandemic bond funds that were issued a few years back to assist poorer countries in the event of a pandemic Its a simple as that|0 I flipped the other 25 times and determined heads comes up 80 of the time for the nickelUnlikely but certainly possible that that was the rate for that set of flips though it doesnt imply that rate would sustain if many more flips were addedIs that a logical conclusion to drawNo but this isnt a great analogy You chose two coins which we know both have a 50 chance of landing heads You are assuming that flu and coronavirus have equal hospitalization rates when thats what you should be trying to prove Also 25 is a tiny sample size whereas now we have 110k confirmed cases worldwide If I flipped a coin 110k times and it came up heads 80 of the time a more likely explanation than insufficient sample size to infer probability is this is an imbalanced trick coin 20 hospitalization rate may be high since due to the lack of testing confirmed cases are missing a lot of asymptomatic infections However if you think after all is said and done eg we reach 34 million infections in the US so our sample size matches the most recent flu that the coronavirus hospitalization rate will be 1 you are going to be proven wrong|0 The trees around me are starting to bud Wel have leaves soon so never fear we wont need TP here Also stocked up on beans and rice so this may be a fun experiment ifwhen it hits my area|1 China was already using this combo for a while before the Thai doctor did its just not the right solution for the disease They published a research paperhttpsbitly37065ms on 129 the same day that the Thai doctor did the experimental treatment|0 This is how were going out It was good while it lasted fam Humanity doesnt have a vaccine or cure against stupidity sadly Peace|1 Just because someone is biased and I grant he is biased against China as the evidence you pointed out seemed to suggest doesnt mean they arent tell the truth Look at all the sources he cites in the piece Look at the way WHO denied human to human transmission then denided aerosol transmission then praised China for it quarantine while criticizing Italy for its relevtivley mild quarantine Even if Chris Chappel spits on a chinese flag every night before bed it doesnt mean hes wrong|0 They would not be able to Temperate checks at each household and ban on sale for fever reducing medicine|0 Only 15 cases in US and people still think its the end of the world fucking hilarious|1 People with money and fame dont play by the same rules as commoners|1 This has been enormous coverup and it will backfire on Trumps administration I guess his goal was to make it look like the US got the disease after it spread from China to Europe so they couldnt do anything possible Its on track with what he was saying about Europe I bet pandemic happened in the US parallel with EuropeSaving his own ass will cost plenty of lives|0 Only testing if they need to be admitted to hospital Bunch of cunt bags everyone was slagging off China and trust Boris to filter through propoganda to everyone I heard a bloke saying that the real pandemics are heart disease lung disease and cancer on the radio Does he not realise that this virus will kill those poor souls|0 Major cities will now be testing anyone hospitalized for with non flu flulike symptoms and randomly sampling people from clinics who present with coldflu symptoms But before that EMS and nurses have been fitted for their PPE in mid January The Toronto lab alone has capacity to run 1000 tests per day|0 Correct translating colorful expressions like that is always so hard|1 Says the twat|0 Ya because we are all actually washing our hands and not touching our faces now Maybe this will be the shortest flu season on record Too bad about this coronavirus tho|0 Or theyd say he has the flu|0 Hey guys wondering if you guys have any cool data science Machine Learning software project for covid 19 I have some free time with university being cancelled and want to be part of the fight against it and would love to make use of some of my skills to create something to help andor get new insights Any ideas |1 Even by Trumps own super scientific and corroborated death toll covid 19 has both a higher infection rate and mortality rateI hate the argument of we dont know how bad itll be so why worry Its not as bad as the flu yet Why wait for it to be Why not take precautions now It hurts NO ONE to not get sick In fact everyone prefers to not get sick|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The worst part is they have to cover each others shifts when someone is out sick meaning effectively no PTO is taken in this system|0 But she could be doing more Shes blaming the federal government for things that are also within her power to affect|0 Yes A few suspect cases here in Pakistan tried to flee from Authorities when they came All of them tested positive People really are irresponsible|1 Because there isnt any real definitive proof this is a thing All of the examples we have of reinfection could very easily be explained by false negatives on tests|1 Alabama got a late start so it might be okay|1 Just enough for the rich|1 They should be like Volvo who DONATED the patent to the 3point seatbelt|1 Its people who worried about the economy that rolled out the red carpet for COVID19 in each country|0 I directly work with Chinese factories in multiple locationsprovinces in that I communicate with people daily and things do seem to be going back to normal Theres still local restrictions on travel in place in some areas but overall things are showing significant improvement Theres more than a little anxiety that the virus will continue to circulate once restrictive measures are loosened but thats something only time will tell Im not saying youre wrong Im just saying be careful what you say if you cant confirm its true especially in times like these when misinformation spreads like fire|1 Losing billions can drive a man to insanity I imagine|0 Cancel them|0 For 2 Loss of pneumocyte function syncytial cells means cell fusion the pathogen takes hold of one cell then neighboring cells attach to infected cell forming a bigger with all their nuclei inside This way the pathogen doesnt have to infect each cell one by one to explain what their new task is Its like building a mini factory and calling a meeting first to give out new tasks making the whole process much more efficient for the virus In this case itll result in enlarged pneumocytes between the alveoli Obviously the new enlarged form pneumocytes wont be able to do what they are supposed to for us resulting in cough loss of breath loss of oxygen in the blood immune response etcFor 5 Blood Lymphopenia a common feature This This is why they are using AIDS and cancer drugs In a nutshell its a systemic immune attack and systemic cardio vascular attack Immune response T cells CDs cytotoxicity this needs to be explored furtherFor 1 I think you can widen your horizon on what else the features and mechanisms of this virus resembles|0 Trudeau makes me want to move to Canada even more|1 Oooh ok I see that guy I think he was actually infected in the USA but who knows|0 Nope not being treated or monitored Just like in America we have no idea how many cases there are in Sweden|1 Well the national guard has already been deployed in new York let that sink in|1 You can gradually edge it back and avoid all thatIve been throttling back for a few weeks Im down to consuming half the quantity made at half the strength as before so I could probably coldturkey right now and only hate the world for 23 days tops but until I spent the last 15 minutes reading up on the internet I had no idea it was only 23 daysThanks for the additional tips though Ill keep caffeinated tea in mind if I want another halfway step|0 We also dont yet know if theres longterm health consequences to the disease Who knows for example what it might do to infected kids For all we know they end up infertile Doubtful but theres just so many unknowns right now|0 Pakistan too unfortunately however i think pakistan doesnt belong to this chain of countries|0 State officials name and address please Thanks|1 Is no one going to mention how its pretty funny when they joked that he had the coorsvirus when they thought it wasnt serious|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 That poor man Im so sorry for his family|0 Better to feed ten families with 10 dollars than a single person with a Big Mac meal with all the fixins Whats a mild inconvenience in an industralized nation with a working food welfare system means starvation in a country where many are scraping below or just above subsistence levels Without those workshops countless families starve If you want to effect great transfers of wealth from the haves to have nots you find ways to make the haves purchase goods and services from the have nots No greater vehicle of this has been nearly as successful as global trade which has elevated a billion into the middle class out of poverty this century alone|1 And this is the UK stance Whats the point in quarantine when people dont take it seriously In Italy even the bars are still going People still go around each others houses Whilst this happens it wont work Humans being humans need to see some shit before they sort it out|0 LoOK aT me Im So CoOl coMinG tO worK SIcK|0 Absolutely not true|0 I have a feeling they censor everything coronavirus related I have a hard time finding any nontrivial information with Google|0 This article is severely censored at the most important part The article says click here to continue where the Dr compares Covid19t the flu and it takes you to a link to the article in Italian The Italian Dr Says this is not the flu stop calling it that this is far worsethis effects everyone young and oldYoung people are being admitted and it is destroying their lungs for the rest of their lives even if they do survive Understand that this is the first real open country China SK Japan Iran have all been protectionist with information So dont mistake this thing as being only something old people need to worry about symptomatic under 50 year olds will suffer greatly|0 Wear a face mask and new latex gloves for each delivery this will reduce risk a fair bit Ideally call in sick|0 Hahhaha exactly O btw IIIMMM perfectly healthy Right on buddie keep on tucking have a good day|1 As for that that is not bad at all I went to Tokyo last year at a flu season everyone I should say more than half of people I met in subway wear a mask I mean there is culture difference but people are really doing something to prevent Hope US people can realize that See the number of deceased people due to flu is tough Especially that is sth could be prevented without too much effort|1 I heard from people in China that doctors are working literally 24 hours a day 6 days a week with only 1 meal some days They cannot call in sick or quit or they will lose their license They are basically required to work Some didnt have all the masks they need more scrubs so they could not protect themselves This is no joke This guy got abused by the government and could not escape but probably tried his best to do his best Just sad all around We are spoiled here when it comes to workplace protections and laws Its brutal there right now|0 Agreed|1 Thank you Bill|1 Remember the dogs and cats Toiletries are good to have and youll always use themPeanut butter is an amazing calories cost ratio and keeps a long time Ditto ramen Maybe grab some multivitamins just in case your diet gets a little monotonous If youre a drinker think about some high proof booze 120 has antiseptic properties and can be bartered if SHTF Worst case you are prebuying some later fun Along those thoughts a GOOD 1st aid kitCandles lighters maybe some wood or something else that can be a secondary heat source Also maybe a solar charging power bank for your phone|1 240 died of a flu this season in Italy btw|0 Nah Not everyone was traveling to Guangdong from Wuhan Not everyone was infected|1 Its people mostly teens and 20 somethings probably with mental health issues tuned into the 247 news cycle and refreshing this subreddit every 5 minutes They want the doom and gloom They want to drown in it They want all of us to drown in it Dont believe in it Youre a shill Its very very sad|0 In Japan heart surgeon number one|1 Hospitals become centers of infection where healthy potentially sick and definately sick patients mingle They need to establish separate ways of treating normal patients and potentially infected patients|0 Interesting I wonder if its the medication or the blood pressure at fault here Wish we could know if the majority of the people who were infected and dying with hypertension were also taking blood pressure medication Apparently the virus binds to ACE2 receptors and BP medication can increase the availability of those receptors|0 Read up a bit on the Nipah virus he mentioned Same sort of symptoms as SARS2 but there was one case where the guy recovered quickly then 14 months later he very suddenly went into respiratory failure and died Thats the kind of shit that scares me The known instances of immediate reinfection are absolutely terrifying|0 thank you |1 Thats a great question which extends a little bit beyond my expertise My educated guess is that it would not In theory existing antibodies should not inhibit the biological processes that occur to develop immune cells that naturally produce antibodies|1 I am very seriously taking this very seriously But wtf in New Orleans We still have power and water and grocery delivery Its nothing like Katrina Just stay mostly home for 2 weeks Even if you run out of toilet paper youre at home Jump directly in your hot shower using potable water firstworldproblems|0 If you dont protect everyone from infectious disease you endanger everyone|0 Yeah its funny first case was in late octoberThe numbers was first like 2000 cases and they said 89 or some shit I mean if they have the balls to eat mice and bat please our fellow ching changs just stop lying and start talkingThey could have avoided all this WE the rest of the world but nope As it is EGO is a addicting drug|0 Exactly and instead of focusing on that real people what is being focused on is spiting a worthless meme for literally NO REASON WHAT SO EVER except being spiteful because a lot of people dislikes those comments You dont see the god damn irony in this Christ|0 At first I was the first to panic and be worried but now it just seems like media induced panic almost politicized Prove me wrong|0 Trump cult Anything that disagrees with ur issues cult and bad people If you actually go back and read I mention trump no where But nice try|0 We are so fucked here in the US|0 Its just a flu bro|0 humans are the only animals that instead of adapting to enviroment adapts the enviroment to us we make clothes store resource build houses infrastructure If there is some large scale anima extinction we will be the last to die off|0 yep until my job closes and says go home at least I am lucky enough to have sick leave so if I do get it I can stay home My husband is essential personnel and while he doesnt come in contact with a lot of people unless hes hospitalized hell probably have to go in per his boss|0 Yeah youre totally right and maybe some people who know how to 3d model keep the printers running people who do medical QC and others would probably be needed too|1 Theres also a inner layer thats kind of a stiff net like material with a wide mesh But thats just to hold the shape Shes made two types one that looks like a surgical mask so its flat and has the folds that let you expand it over your chin and a more advanced design thats more done like over your mouth and nose She even added the wire in the nose bridge|1 Holy fucking shit I dont even know what to think|0 I had a really bad cold this week and I went to work It felt really bad But Im 90 sure it was a cold because I caught it from someone else at work and I had no fever But I def thought about how if I had sars2 then i would definitely be a super spreader|0 960 Gang is created on foldhome join the team 237842Still trying to find a solution my GPU is still not engaged|1 Ive seen a leaked video of dead children being piled up and being put into one bodybag in the hospital as theres not enough of those around for one bag per corpse But then again I cant make out the age of those kids so they may seem little but maybe around the age of 1113 But come on its China u seriously believe in the official numbers being announced|0 best reply You are welcome at my table any time sir|1 Most of the videos are true CCP releases one fake video and calls it out so that they can make people question the truthfulness of the rest|1 Haha haha I wish it was an E7 It was an O5|1 Elder aid Ill call them later Thank you|0 My Dad works on the rigs in the North Sea and hes recently said hes feeling full of flu|0 I didnot say those information claimed in this post Sorry if it was unclear but I get those things some people in Vietnam They said something like that so I just paraphase it|1 Thanks capitalism|1 and touch your faceI wear nitrile gloves to help me be conscious of this and bonus that its more effective at keeping my hands clean when combined with washing|1 Be realistic bro sure you might not mind going without dollar stores and paying a couple bucks extra for medical supplies but not everyone has the luxuryI agree that we should i also think we cantMaybe the world deserves this|1 Youre country has been gutted of an epidemic response team Youre running around like a blind man in a knife shop Youve gotten by on pure luck so far|1 so your saying your case study is equivalent to the 76 studies i linked hahaha P|1 It isnt I was responding to a post about free day care not about alternatives to school that would reduce infection|1 Good job terroni|1 Nice try Xi We have receipts though|1 Unemployment can be claimed for a reduction in hours worked If you normally work 35 hours but your shifts got cut to 12 for a while you can claim unemployment for those 23 hours At least in nj you can|0 Take up sustainable gardening as a hobby Whether its a few plants on your balcony or in the window a grow tent or a garden out in the yard every little bit of fresh produce helps Hell even just some houseplants could make your indoor space a lot more palatable for the duration|1 Pretty sure were talking about containment measures and such but okay|1 My local county access channel ended its emergency board meeting coverage and rolled right into an ad for the local now totally closed rec centers I chuckled Im sure a lot of stuff is on autopilot or for natl commercials there were buys and commitments a good while ago|1 car crashes dont spread to 34 other people every time 1 happensNot sure where you drive but around here everytime theres a crash 2 or 3 mfs crash because the busy looking at the first crash lol|0 How do you know youre not sick There has been reports of spread before showing symptoms httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovpreparetransmissionhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovpreparetransmissionhtml|1 Ive actually been thinking about how insane it is that theres that many people quarantined and theyre still getting their basic needs I mean besides being locked in your home but still in every prep tv show or movie or anything about stuff like this you see the government immediately collapse and the citizens go into chaos|0 You guys are getting ahead of yourselves and focusing on the wrong part of the article The novel technology that theyre talking about is basically a replacement for swabbing to collect samples Once youve collected that condensate theres a whole bunch of analysis you can do on that Some of those tests are nothing new and some are decades off Dont expect this to have some kind of integrated diagnosis chip any time soon|0 I didnt expect it to get this bad but I was expecting something Managed to stock up on most of my essentials before hand forgot a few like cheese cry and have been self quarantined since last Friday Hopefully I can ride out the first few waves of the disease at least Maybe avoid it entirely or if not at least make it to the point where hospitals arent completely overwhelmed And Im young and in good health so theres a solid chance my symptoms wont be so bad if I do Not counting on it thats just one backup plan several layers deep in case the other lines dont hold|1 the stock wasnt over 550 for 6months so he doesnt get his 152 billion ceo bonus lmao|1 Except They didnt have other countries to work with and months of head start like the USA|1 The politics is a mess for sure but I think it psychologically helps some to focus on these incompetent politicians because facing the bigger threat of covid is even more terrifying Im not focused on the politicians myself I dont care who does it someone just needs to take action and do the right thing to directly help the people|0 I think you can just use soapy water I do not think it is that hard to kill You dont need to boil it Soaphttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublic|0 Sounds good PLOS one is a good source|1 If this is successful how long until the positive PR is leveraged into a political run|1 Apparently all the chickens in Wuhan are about to starve to death So I guess everyones going to have chicken on the menu soon Lolhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200130300millionchickensareatedgeofdeathonhubeilockdown|0 Its a bit premature to say the lockdown was effective|1 The way it works is that these psychotic elite covert organizations that want to control the world look for things they can use to create patterns to amplify their destruction That is it is not that these people predicted the virus it is that someone knew about the books and used them as a guide This is done throughout history and is these psychotic cults way to brainwash people and make them think that people can predict the future and that their religious bullshit is true and all thatThis is imply for depopulation but wuhan was chosen because of its references and relationships to Chinait being the center of maximum population density You have to realize that it is a bioweapon released on the Chinese peopleeither by the US government CCP or othersx200BWhen these psychotic cults come up with these insane ideas they have to based them off previous things movies books symbols etc Sometimes because they believe it is some step in a process that will give some specific result other times it is to amplify their powerbecause most people are clueless and when they see those connections they will more likely believe certain things exist that do not sometimes it is for other reasons Sometimes its just coincidencex200BWe can be pretty sure that this is depopulation nothing can stop it now though it will take its corse and kill as many as necessary The thing is we have to prepare for what comes afterwards They are 10 steps ahead they can predict the general behavior of humanityAI which means it is very large corps involved such as google microsoft CIA NSA etc After depopulation comes the one world order because individuals are very weak and uncoordinated No different than when a military comes in to a village and takes it over There could even be more villagers but they are weak because they are not organized or trained|0 I think its disgusting that people have to pay for testing because they are doing a duty to everyone else by getting themselves tested|0 That seems crazy to me since we know the incredible steps that were required in China to stopslow its spread What do you think after reading the CDC docs|0 Prediction USA keeps a 13 growth factor so it will overcome Italy reduced factor at 113 number of cases by the end of March 2020|1 smart move|1 One thing Ive learned from playing Plague Inc You have to keep your virus as symptomless as possible for as long as possible so you get the widest worldwide spread before people notice that they should start washing their hands and seek medical attention|1 Some of that will be fear bravado as they dont know what else to do|0 Hope it helps |1 Dems just got state majorities in 2018 and are dragging their feet with legal weed and healthcare Some other small complaints but its a great state for poor and rich|1 Yeah The crazy part is dismissing even 003 as irrelevant If slightly under 1 person in 100 is dying thats still a huge number of people And think of how many more will be seriously ill miss work andor need critical care|0 And what do you say about antibody dependent enhancement associated with any novel coronavirus vaccine|1 And over 600 have died|0 Yeah they certainly are its just bad training Hear an explanation from a well trained English doctor as to why you should never do that httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvwBHyBrbU6EIhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvwBHyBrbU6EI|1 Thats fucked up|0 You are screwed My neighbouring state is kerala India Imma die first|0 Im in Johnson county ks my son goes to jccc where there was a confirmed case He came down sick last weekend I did on Tuesday Went to two doctors refused covid19 referral AND flu testing because Ive already had the flu twice this season AND I run a child care Despite ALL of this I cant get tested the best you can do unfortunately is stay home and rest Until he is in respiratory distress unfortunately they will do nothing which makes zero sense By that time it is too late My heart is breaking watching this unfold The virus may not have been avoidable but the lack of an effective national emergency response sure as hell was|0 Have any of the details for make up daysgraduationsect been talked about Are schools going to just cut weeks or the entire summer vacation out In WA schools were closed but many cant do online learning since not all students have access to it I asked this question then and didnt get an answer|0 Just drove by two popular hangouts in my town People everywhere drinking Most over 65 Infuriating|0 Thanks Im curious as to the date of the article which I couldnt find This should not be legal|1 Because deep down they are secretly afraid and insecure they think their bravado and luck will protect them seeing you wearing a mask probably provoked these fears and therefore the negative behaviour|0 Agreed I am disinfecting the shit out of those boxes|1 Theres 150 drugs on the list If theres something in short supply and its critical to your wellbeing you probably want to talk to your physician fill ya script|0 There is a small chance that this virus causes a situation where a lot of people get sick and die but there is a large chance that panicking people will strip the shelves of all food they can find and then flood hospitals|0 Useless cash will make great TP|1 Im actually not Chinese but thank you for your assumptions |0 Yea the problem with exponential spread is you can only ignore it until you cant If theyre letting it grow like wildfire whileSouth Korea is proactively nipping it in the bud like China there will be a difference between these countries in a few weeks time South Korea will be functional with a working hospital system Japanese hospitals will be inundated with dying seniors and they will be exporting cases until travel bans become inevitable|0 8 needing hospital care so when 625 people have it 3 of your town population THEN youre fucked|0 Were doing our best |1 Exactly Just like you cant definitively say its for sure going to be bad you cant definitively say its going to be fine either Their logic is fucked|0 They said on the BBC news that he previously had a heart attack|0 To be released Xrays needed to show up clean with no symptoms and testing negative|0 They are insurance people they are going to hell anyway|0 My theory is that there are lots of mild cases which is only shown if you do lots of contact tracing etc Just a theory though Here in Sweden for example We have found 100 infected coming from chinairanItaly and through contact tracing None are in critical condition It can change with time of course|0 maybe we should use this as a basis to encourage US businesses to once and for all relocate their manufacturing to outside of China|1 Yes but my Singapore work colleagues say its pretty contained over there Just bring hand sanitizer and mask as a precaution|1 I am wishing you a speedy speedy recovery|1 Oh yeatheir parents stop and get them large iced coffees before school Im an adult and my mom still tells me I dont need to be drinking coffee|0 Loweffort posts are not allowed in rChinaFluA loweffortpost is a question post or discussion that propositions without citation or context and solicits speculation This may include solicitation of prep reposted frequently or travel advice not permitted or medical advice not permitted This also includes posts soliciting statistical data or local reports that are readily searchablePlease consider using the daily discussion thread on the front pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlu If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Not to undermine this virus but when broken down by age groups mortality is more in line with the flu A bit higher sure but nothing insane httpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactorshttpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactors|0 I didnt buy any hand sanitizer at all even when the shelves were fully stocked What I did buy was a large package of Ivory Soap It is just as effective|1 Ok fine please tell my why south korea has hundres of thousands of test kits immediately and the US cant roll out any that work right for weeks there was a hold up no one says why|1 With the current fatality rate of 25 well need to see about 40 infected outside of China before we see the first fatality Statistically speakingx200BAnd since the numbers clearly shows that elderly are the ones dying we are unlikely to see any deaths outside of China for some time until it starts spreading locally People travelleling from the Wuhan region to other places in the world are most likely not elderly peoplex200BAlso hospitals outside of China need to treat 15 people not numbers in the tens of millions so they can focus MUCH better and give correct treatments|0 What is all this stuff I hear about misinformation about the coronavirus on reddit where it is coming from and what is being said|0 Yeah it was like all those governors got non public information and then immediately acted on Friday night My work is closed until April 6|1 Also the with SARS there was little evidence to suggest that the summer was what stopped it Aggressive early countermeasures were a much bigger part of it being contained People are sticking to this summer will kill it thing because it makes easy reading not because its backed by science|0 a full facepiece mask with supplied air or salted filters no cuts youre going into a space where the virus will spread out like a gas|0 Everett is 35 minutes away maybe 90 minutes during bad rush hour traffic Redmond is less than 25 minutes without traffic A lot of people make these commutes daily because its crazy expensive in Seattle proper|0 I think the CDChttpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyfluactivitysurvhtm and various State Department of Healthhttpswwwhealthnygovdiseasescommunicableinfluenzasurveillance track influenza activity like prevalence of influenza like illness ILI and have publicly available data You can find abnormal levels of activity this way I believe It might be hard to differentiate whether its COVID19 or a bad flu season It might be easier as the flu season winds down This is probably a better approach than data from stories|0 Any mortality rates right now are estimates and there are likely lots of undiagnosed mild cases that would pull that number down One of the top experts in the field isnt too dense to do a google search|1 Stupidity unites|0 God why did we let such horrible people make the rules|0 I keep hearing people say its not the end of the world but I dont think I have actually seen one person say it it Its a very serious situation and it has the potential to disrupt things indirectly via economical means Businesses are going under in the US right now due to one months of supply chain disruption Otherwise I do agree with what youre saying|0 He kinda looks like Jaystation if Jaystation got marooned on an island|1 Stagehand and technician fuck|0 Ah thanks for correcting me|1 youre better off investing in something like netflix or other subscription service that see a significant uptick in users in such events|1 Its possible to say Chinas government is 1000x worst than the US in many areas but on this one issue its still fair too considered having approached the issue better than the US I think often it comes down to expectations We just expect more from G7 countries|1 The National Peoples Congress is two weeks away I think thats one of the reasons they are super cautious right now|1 This helped a lot Cheers to ya |1 If I turn into a zombie ill have to make a new bucket list1 Kill someone by eating ass2 Get stabbed and walk it off3 Eat 30 babies in 30 minutesAm I weird Not to a fucking zombie|0 No all schools in the state closed through end of April|0 Lol with you there same sort of period I am sat in my Bunker watching shit go down and it isnt pretty|0 Hell no if everything ends ill be happy And life is hell bent on making my life miserable So thats a definite no|0 pointless most of us will get infected this way or another and it will barely slow it down they should focus on maintaining the food chain supply|0 Ok How do I pay rent|1 I think the federal government is going to cover medical expenses Idk theyve largely sucked at communication so far|0 So I talked with my dad on the phone and his brother was in China back in January and came back and was able to get a test done without problems and he didnt even have symptoms I dont know what to believe because almost everyone on here is talking about how people are having such a hard time being tested|1 Yeah exactly Especially since people are going to read this and think they should keep it in the house or their vehicle lol The advice should be more likeIf youre super worried have a garage or shed and have a preplanned bug out location thats within a little over a half tank of gas away then keep your tank topped off and maybe a full gas can or two in the garageshed in case you need to leave quickly Or if you have a generator For basically everyone else this is not practical lol|1 Yeah same here and then they argue nonstop about it|0 Namaste gesture should get more love|1 Living with 4 grandparents of 90 years of age diabetes fibrous lungs pacemaker blood pressure issues and overweight in general what are the most important things I can do to prevent them catching anything For example keeping the house entrance sterile for dumping clothes disinfecting and single use protection etc would that make sense Theyre already not going outside and Im limiting my own as well I have stocked up on their daily medicines which are an insane amount What other common day to day things can we do to avoid putting the elderly and fragile in our homes in more dangerEdit Im also an asthmatic and Ive seen conflicting information about my own illness related to COVID19 Extra precautions Im on daily beclometasone dipropionate and salbutamol when Im having an asthma attack Thank you for this thread|0 ffs|0 True that They have already dodged death a number of times Eventually their ticket is going to get punched for the hereafter This we know We dont want it to come but being born on this planet is a death sentenceMy fatherinlaw was hospitalized for the flu late last year so I feel like weve already dodged that bullet|0 Im in Spain too and had the same experience its very surreal indeed Seeing this beast from far away in late January growing and coming closer every week prepping as a precaution and now having it at our doorstep Its not on a screen anymore its physically here for real Very strange mental state weve been in all week I think today it really set in that this is our life now and will be for the foreseeable future until we defeat this monster|0 But We dont know who is contagious if they dont show symptoms Come on people|0 Yes and pretty sure that the hospitals are not buying their masks from the local markets This is just ridiculous We should all be wearing masks at this point in the game|1 While this is great idea already tested positive numbers are being hidden by the current adminSo good luckThe awfull truth michael moore httpswwwstitchercompodcastrumblewithmichaelmooree68004709autoplaytruehttpswwwstitchercompodcastrumblewithmichaelmooree68004709autoplaytrue|1 they asked him because he has never before been shy about giving his opinion on non football issues|1 Which private system has done what1 My point is that both nationalized and private systems seem to be facing shortages due to surging demand1 No need to clarify this question because I am not talking about what the private systems are doing I am talking about the shortages they are facing|0 Yes you are hysterical and by spreading misinformation you are making everyones job harder|1 True about the doors But they handle cash often almost always At least where I live not Tokyo|1 a higher number of cases as a percentage of population that we know about Theres good reason to think that the number of cases in the US is much higher than whats being reported|1 The difference in life expectancy between Greece and the US is bigger than between US and Iran Greece 821 United States 789 Iran 765|1 Hitler invades WesternEuropeWe have it under control Its going to be just fine Winston Chruchill|1 100 But please be reminded the original content did not come from me and i only translated the article Would appreciate if you credit the news outlet|1 Im sorry what|0 Crash it again thats the least of the worries Be hopeful to have food on your table and basic meds If they are locking this down right now think about if they have similar outbreak in two months or four months again back to lock down or risk collapse|0 Dont think those masks are keeping you safe because they arent|1 At least hes being level headed and following health directives Could you imagine if celebrities were telling people to ignore it some people in America listen to them more than politicians|0 Thats an awfully good boy I see|1 And the crew and cast just lost all their income for the next yearThis is an industry that many arent thinking about I work in film and everybody I know just lost their income for the next year and Netflix and companies like it arent helping anyone financiallyIts devastating Musicians artists film crews actors are all completely out of work and are selfemployed with no way to claim anything Furthermore hospitality the industry we normally turn to when were out of work is also struggling for necessary reasonsA multibilliondollar industry is collapsing and everyone is understandably talking about the people who need to get their tickets refunded while the workers lives fall to pieces The very workers that in times of trouble weve seen giving up their time to do charity gigs ectIts honestly devastating This industry isnt just celebrities its mostly workingclass parents with families and the governments of the world are doing nothing for them|0 Yes Mechanical ambu bag|1 Median age of 41 years younger than earlier studies Systematic antiviral and immunotherapy Better clinical outcomes Useful early information as one would expect from BMJ Theres a lot of work goes into a study like this at a busy time Thank you authors|1 Thanks|1 When the GOP has slashed the CDCs budget for preparing for global pandemics wellx200Bhttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20180212585119417trumpproposesdeepcutsindetectingdiseaseoutbreaksworldwidehttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20180212585119417trumpproposesdeepcutsindetectingdiseaseoutbreaksworldwide|0 The question to ask is why are they still so obviously covering up the true extent of the outbreakA potential explanation is they are busy moving assets and taking hedging positions to offset the economic impactI cant think of another|1 I live in America and Im the first person I know wearing gloves when Im out in public I get a lot of looks and comments My thought is go ahead and laugh Im protecting myself you do you But I never purchased masks because Ive read so many articles about how they dont actually help unless youre infected blah blah blah and now Im screwed Not sure where to find them|0 Im still looking for a How Its Made video on Masks and Virus Test kits I still havent even seen much on knowing how long do tests take to get results and the various types of testsThese issues have been out and about constantly Isnt anyone else interested in learning about the underlying technology and manufacturing So much talk about it what does it look like|1 Lets see how the testing kits keep up Hopefully well have more available and an increase|1 People talk about level 4 research facilities where stuff like SARS and Y pestis are housed and researched But has anyone seen the conditions of the wet markets Those make these labs look without risk in comparison Im not surprised this arose from a wet market Im only surprised this didnt happen sooner|1 Dr Campbell has also pointed out that Case Fatality Rate CFR cannot accurately be determined right now We only know of the confirmed cases survivors and dead but have no idea how many unidentified cases are out there because the person has mild symptoms or they dont want to get tested|0 Thanks for the posting and getting yourself checked out I was wondering what our testing policy is right now|1 Let them enjoy reduced lung capacity Smoking helps|1 Seeing the comments on his tweet are utterly appalling How are people so fucking dumb|0 I didnt want to be the one but does this include the Chinese and Taiwanese people and sometimes children who build the things But good on Apple for doing something Better than nothing|1 Stick to this sub Dr Fauci CDC and WHO They have the best information for people in the US|1 Im expecting a backlash to come from Huwan Yes I know all the weapons are in the hands of the government but when 11 million people get desperate no amount of guns will matter|0 Thats my nightmare scenario They mark down pneumonia and move along as if we cant look at records later on and note the massive uptick in pneumonia deaths from normal I mean I get that not testing but still reporting deaths will end up messing up the death rate massively but its not like they can 100 hide the deaths They keep records of that for a reasonIts basically like those hospitals who have nurses killing people hiding their death statistics like someone cant look into them later and be like uhh why are 500 more people dying when So and So is at work|0 You would be shocked at how far back in the stone ages wed be if no one ever disobeyed beurocracy|0 Ive had the same thoughts Plus Im sure lots of healthy people in Wuhan died from untreated pneumonia because the system was overwhelmed The first case in the US was a non smoker 35 yo man and his o2 saturation dropped to 90 before they put him on oxygen If you had asthma in that situation your a goner|1 Unless youre in the west of the US and the big earthquake happens now Unlikely but potentially disastrous|0 Yes for sure I get all the vaccines I can except for live vaccines as I am immunocompromised Thanks for the info for anyone reading|1 I just wanna know whats wrong with a good oldfashioned banner AD down the side|0 China is doing the opposite of this Theyre still very strict in affected areas|0 Willful ignorance and hubris is gonna kill a lot of people|0 It is about 22600 a month or 2712 per year I seen it somewhere based on where our GDP is and what would be needed to go to negative GDP basically 2700 or 3400 that is not much in the grand scheme of things|0 Good videos Im sorry its so bad there right now|0 Thats not a knife it is said to be a famous weapon yielded by Guanyu by some account God of war in ChinaAnd yes probably made of wood or cardboard He cant possibly lift a large piece of steel like that|1 Funny they said the same on Thursday and Friday tooMay eventually be right but broken clock right twice a day and all|0 I have a quite old bold collection All those hundreds of years have really softened the pages I am fine|1 The development of a vaccine for this could move much faster Its an urgent focus for the entire world so many of the labs working on vaccines around the world are shifting focus to this|1 Uhm so Im not sure if youre aware but driving on a road doesnt make you an expert in its fatality ratesNarrow roads are actually know to reduce fatal accidentsIm not going to bother looking up what 75 mph is in a civilised unit though because Im going to guess youre used to american deathtrap roads|0 Correction the leagues shut themselves down And thats a key difference What we are seeing is private enterprises taking responsibility on themselves to protect employees customers etc Generally speaking if a body has institutional liability its closing down But if they dont churches venues malls theyre staying open If these halfmeasures worked in bringing the R0 under 1 Italy wouldnt have gone to full lockdown Their numbers would be in decline|1 There has been a lot of good info flowing through these posts Also its been fascinating to watch the behavior both good and bad|1 What a fukkin moron|0 Dont forget all the conspiracies Democrats unleash virus to change 2020 election cleverly by conspiring with Chinese socialist buddies Mix with varying degrees of crazy and the list is endless|1 Except for the people living check to check who have children they need to feed Stop and think about what you are saying You act like the people working there are filthy rich and dont need money They dont have the LUXURY of WFH|1 Or just go full Nero and blame the Christian cult for the disasterNero the best Princeps|1 Yep everyone should take this with caution even if it works with acceptable side effects in humans those things are prohibitively expensiveEven a fasttracked implementation in China would take quite a whileA stupid saying that fits Bleach kills cancer in Petridishes but its still not a viable solution for humans|0 Looks like a scam to me zero information or specs on it Just a bunch of sketchy malware looking print Try ordering some bandanas off amazon if you cant find any N95 or surgical masks A homemade mask is better then nothing |1 Honestly I know the US is saying not to but wear a mask even if it is to keep yourself from accidentally touching your face Eat and drink before you go to the airport and try to see if you can check in on your phone Doesnt look like the virus can infect people from soft fabrics so your suitcase will probably be fine but you could pack everything in plastic bags if youre worried Id also wear gloves as you go through the airports|0 Compared to those of us sick denied testing with no access to luxury medicine yes thats correct|0 Because we are in the tail end of the flu seasonIn two weeks flu cases will have dramatically declined to their typical offseason rates meaning any remaining or new respiratory cases are significantly more likely to be covid19|0 My family of 3 had a case in the first week of Feb Son 7 never gets sick and he was running a fever though usually mild with spikes to 102 Wife was hit hardest but for a short time Had 103 fever for a very short time and it was usually 101ish I was the first to get it I think coughed on during my performance review by my boss I had the least of it with low fever 100s and generally tired but it lasted longer Developed a cough but I nearly always do since I have Cystic Fibrosis mild case and even head colds can go to my lungs This is the reason I doubt it was COVID19 since I would expect a lot worse from that virus|0 if the appointments are for something less serious than your risk of complications from Covid then dont go simple math|0 The most useful measurement is not building new hospitals In China we try to isolate every infected people from healthy people to cut the infection chain|0 Nah I been following a couple youtubers chronicling their journey back home including their time in quarantine Welcome back Ben Have a pint|1 Bill how bad do you think the COVID19 situation will be if it spreads freely in the community in countries like India Social distancing seems less likely to be effective given the sheer population density of my country I have family in India who are senior and have autoimmune conditions Even though they are isolating they need help performing daily duties from people outside our home and I am concerned for their lives|1 Id suggest they halt it for eight weeks Worst measure ever This wouldnt ease the market at all|0 Theyll wait until after Spring Break And unfortunately as a travel agent I have had absolutely nobody cancel or postpone their trip during that time|0 Oops replied to wrong thread|0 Site is already down from time to time Due to maintenance sure sounds more like DDoS to me|1 I hope it spares your family 3 I have a cold thats persisted over a week now and I keep thinking what if|1 This comment really shook me|0 wow s much faster than in Germany they couldnt decide when to leave them go because the virus was still in the body but only in so small amounts that it was difficult to verify|0 Gotta save his customers|1 This is a GREAT move I need my gorditas|1 The 1st Arkansas presumptive positives are linked to 1 guy that went to Mardi Gras|1 This is why the government must be for the public good The owners interest is in business as usual not societys|1 21 positive out of 46 is nearly the same infectedtested ratio that the Diamond Princess started out with Plague Princess 20|1 No it isnt|0 Is there anything I can do as a normal citizen to put pressure on our government to actually come up with a response plan|0 It also means that a lot of cases are very mild as in you think you just have a cold or sore throat theres even cases where you dont notice youre sick and spread the virus to many people This is a massive issue for containment efforts NYT wrote about this today refering to the Chinese CDC study|1 Only madrid and barcelona was having a lot of cases of people infected but People from madrid went to valencia and others communities and brought the coronavirus with they to another places|0 The Boom Squad is here ladies and gentleman Let their badasses get to work Screw xenophobia this is a World problem and the best minds are ready to work Extremely proud as a Human Being|1 They must not be trying to cause panic during rush hourEdit seems I might be right sad times ahead|0 Measles shouldve burned itself out by now Doesnt have a reservoir other than humans Unmatched contagion high mortality Huge immune population Measles still exists|1 rise up is very misleading|0 YSK YSK stands for You Should KnowYoure welcome|1 does that mean that there are like hundreds of people walking around with this thingConsidering it was estimated that there were 75k infected in Wuhan region 7 days agohttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsex1dbfzfg5sd9m possibly close to 200khttpsiimgurcomYtJrv3Ipng in all of China now and that 5 million people traveled out of Wuhan before the lockdown yes it is safe to say there are hundreds walking around infectedSome more info since I was accused of batshit insane speculationLancet ForecasthttpswwwthelancetcomactionshowPdfpiiS01406736282029302609 We forecasted thenational and global spread of 2019nCoV accounting for the effect of the metropolitanwide quarantine of Wuhanand surrounding cities We estimated that the basic reproductive number for 2019nCoV was 26895 CrI 247286 and that 75815 individuals 95 CrI 37 304130 330 have been infected in Wuhan as of Jan 25 2020 The epidemic doubling time was 64 daysSome quick math for you 75k for Wuhan region doubled is 150k This is on track or possibly even higher than the prediction chart from abovehttpsiimgurcomYtJrv3Ipng taking into account H2H transmission outside of Wuhan region where 40 of confirmed caseshttpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscases areIll repeat the original reason I posted this comment to begin with yes it is safe to say there are hundreds walking around infected Hundreds is relatively small compared to the number of total cases were talking aboutBonus timelapse of Confirmed Cases in China Jan 25th to Feb 1sthttpsgfycatcomfearfullivecarp|1 yes i agree and the governments arent doing anythingso as ive said there no way we can convince them when they dont wanna listen so let them learn from experienceill wish them luck hopefully the cases wont go up that much but im pessimistic|1 Holy shit Your health insurance doesnt cover you to just go to the hospital You have to spend 15k in a year on medical services before your insurance covers you Is this a typical experience for Americans This virus might spread just from people not being financially capable to go to a hospital Unbelievable|0 Thanks|1 and if he recovers hell be like See it was nothing Just a fluConfirmation bias is a bitch |0 Better than sitting on their ass with their restaurant bar closed until further notice|0 Done I hope this helps|1 Id rather you be weary of censorship than have the comments here look like your average Twitter fight You are able to discuss the response of the government all you like There are few to no comments being removed that are good faith criticisms of governments What is removed are criticisms of politics rather than policy|1 i reject your science and substitute my own|0 those who arent epidemiologistsSo pretty much almost everyone|0 Literally 95 of seperated toilet without bath or shower WC geen badkamer I have seen over many years in Amsterdam the Hauge Utrecht in homes bars cafes coffeeshops hotels hostels and the like had only cold running water to the sink by the toilet Literally hundreds of examples Oftentimes a tiny vestigial sink you cant even get your hands under Sure sometimes its sueezed for space but even in some of the big rich freestanding houses with a build year before maybe 2008 this is a thing that an apart toilet will have a sink with cold water only In your own home because you dont want to run a water line fine During a corona epidemic in nearly every bar resturant cafe and coffeeshop in Amsterdam Tragedy|1 My mistake Sadly sometimes I cant tell anymore|0 A lot of people cant get off of work without a drs approval|0 Got a few saved games of The Long Dark Skyrim Jurrasic Evolution and Fallout 4 Most worrying thing for me is a very active two year old If we arent hiking or trekking by 10am she is a grumpy kid|1 Most countries are not first world Many countries bordering China are not even really reporting the number of cases theyre having So unless were prepared to block off traffic from all of Asia then we will see significant spread in OctNov when the weather gets colderMoreover you can prepare as many beds as you like but there arent enough mechanical ventilators the real piece of equipment needed in existence in the world to handle a global outbreak There are only around 70K ventilators in all the US and most of those are pediatric|1 Interestingly they are saying they OVER reported cases in Taiwan|1 But a stupid move in terms of public perspectives No matter how many times they say the risks are super low there are enough people that wont believe it and start behaving more and more dangerously|0 Its also a reality check because many western countries think that because we have lots of money and excellent schools our doctors and hospitals are somehow better overall and better equipped than China is at fighting diseases like this My family and I are Chinese from mainland China My parents and I live in the US and the general belief is that doctors and hospitals is the west are better than in ChinaEdit both my parents are scientists and my mom used to be a doctor in China|1 I know two of those names Ignoring Ive read about Sophie on this sub Makes me feel in touch almost|0 None of us want to have to use the equipment we purchasedToo late I couldnt resist trying some of the snacks I bought now I have to go to coronamart and rebuy them |0 Agreed I hope they join forces too|1 And its only WednesdayI have Friday off but was thinking of switching it to next Friday to finish studying for a test but now test centers are closed so think Ill take the long weekend and hope theres some shelter in place news before I return to work My job is basically a vendor in and out of 20 places all day|0 I mean 0 if he isnt infected himself I do think its very alarming that he wasnt made to quarantine for 14 days after leaving a cruise ship with an infection after whats happened on the Diamond Princess|1 Thank you kind internet friend|1 The reported numbers from Wuhan are almost meaningless the underreporting there is huge You dont send 6000 docs to take care of 6000 sick theres your first clue You dont lockdown an area with 60 million people due to a disease with a few hundred deaths theres a second clue About 5 days ago scientists from HK and London were estimating 44000 and 100000 infected in Wuhan respectively theres your third clue|0 Some people are being irresponsible selfishly Youre trying to do the right thing and are unable This is a nightmare|0 It probably is but with the size of the US spreading it here it could make the situation worse Instead of mitigating and tracing it by clusters that are home grown we will have a storm of infected people clouding any potential to break clusters|0 Some nurses are required to show up As in theyll get arrested and tried in court|0 Big Cock|0 Infections are going to be worse no doubt But deaths remains to be seen|0 The scary figure is in Italy close to 10 of their cases are in ICU If thats how things are gonna play out no country in the world can cope with that amount of people needing specialist careHealth care systems will fall a part and a lot of people will die|0 Looks like your in an area were you can use Amazon Fresh grocery delivery for free with an order of 35 or more|1 Absolutely This shows the drawbacks to overly aggressive regulation There should be a way to get tests approved in an emergency scenario|0 Seeing the same issueCPU starts up but GPU is not able to receive any jobsNot that the CPU is getting any Corona work eitherCancer is a good cause as well but not the one I was hoping to assist with at the moment|1 I can second this and as the fairly logical individual I think I am and you seem to be as well OP Id say its fair to assume anything regarding reinfection being more deadly is pure speculation at this point This disease is at most 4 to 5 months old and has only been monitored vigorously for 1 or 2 months max While its worrisome the fact of the matter is that we wont know the facts behind this claim for many months|1 I know Minnesota from big time rush lol that one blonde dude is from there Ive heard its really cold over there and you guys love ice hockey|1 We are very fortunate that viruses cant spread well over social distancing but love hope laughter and courage can be spread just fine These things will help a lot in getting us through this If you will accept them I offer you internet hugs Take care 3|1 This made me feel better about Italy possibly being able to contain this I wish we could get such detailed information about the US cases|1 Good example for the Canadian people|1 Look at Florida Beaches They refuse to close them and instead suggest people stay 10 feet apart Like anyone will adhere to that People continue to flood the beaches for Spring Break Stupidity at its finest|0 We do have a larger population with a degrees Although we all know how high the quality of our educational system actually isAlso worth noting Chinese scientists published virus gene sequence developed the test kit not us|1 I think it shows great consideration for the wellbeing of the UK and Ireland by the USChina should have stopped outgoing flights as well the moment they realized their home situation was an absolute clusterfuck|1 No we spell it momAll areas have their different ways of saying it Mom mum ma mam etc|0 When you cannot make arguments with othersyou tag them with ccpChina and play double standards Then you can easily win here in Reddit|1 What is wrong with America Public health threats of highly communicable diseases should be free of charge to test and treat It is in the interest of the state and corporations to do this in order to have a healthy population and workforce Same goes for vaccinations It should be free and universal|1 I think your math is a little off here It seems that totale attualmente positivi is currently positive cases casi totali is total cases So the total currently positive cases have the healed and deceased subtracted from them Which would mean that the numbers are more like Out of 53826 swabs there have been 9172 positive cases casi totali Which gives us a slightly higher 17 infection rate And not even needing to speculate and use WHO numbers or the Dr on TV they are currently reporting a 5 mortality rate With 463 deceased out of 9172 cases So seems that Drs prognosis is pretty closely matching the Italian numbers right now already|1 This is exactly what needs to be said it seems like a lot of people have forgotten about ascertainment bias in early CFR estimates|1 Whos going to kick you outSeriously whos going to put themselves at risk to kick out a 79 year old man|0 I feel the same way but after ignoring me for almost 2 months they now feel the need to try to share misinformation with me as they panic Im on a family group text where I can share accurate information Now they are panicking and trying to tell me whats going on with the world while I sit here with my food stocks and plenty of hand sanitizer and other supplies I was so proud of my son who finally stood up to his dad and told him that a post about gargling and drinking vinegar every 10 minutes would protect you from the virus Then he warned him yesterday that he might not be able to have his wedding next month He politely told him that he shouldnt be taking medical advice from a post shared on Facebook that will filled with grammatical errors Then today he texted him super angry because the wedding reception was canceled after the governor closed all bars and restaurantsIm actually calm now because everything that I said was going to happen is happening I am just waiting for the poop to hit the fan|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Yeah I noticed that yesterday Ridiculous|0 Yes Companies should be encouraging this whenever possible It will slow things down Otherwise mandatory quarantines will be here sooner|1 I have a friend who knows someone in Wuhan and apparently they all have an app that can be used to snitch on your family or neighbours who display symptoms While its pretty effective I dont really see how people would comply and use a similar system in the US or Europe|1 Sounds like they just need some Freedom|1 Gotcha thanks for the correction|1 Please reread that paper that was only like 32 people on mechvent the 31 who died had complicating factors which is the actual point of the paper and the Pvalue was infinitesimal It is not statistically sound to draw conclusions from that part of the analysis Even worse with the ECMO data literally just three people|0 Step 1 Put your head between your knees Step 2 Kiss your|1 IndiaPakistan border skirmishes 2019India and Pakistan have engaged in a military confrontation across the de facto border in Kashmir a disputed region which is claimed by both countries and large parts of which are controlled by each countryThe heightened tensions stemmed from a suicide car bombing carried out on 14 February 2019 in which 40 Indian security personnel were killed A Pakistanbased militant group JaisheMohammad claimed responsibility for the attack India blamed Pakistan for the bombing and promised a robust response India has regularly stated Pakistan was utilising militants to destabilise Indianadministered Kashmir PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Your store should stop accepting cash|1 This is NOT news FFS We have known this for over a month|1 152 years if all things succeed which still remains to be seen|1 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please earn some karma after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Related news FDA announces first shortage Of course the transparency is lacking and they wont say what drug it ishttpswwwlatimescombusinessstory20200228fdadrugshortagevirushttpswwwlatimescombusinessstory20200228fdadrugshortagevirus|0 It is spread like that And similar to influenza can be spread by asymptomatic people in asymptomatic stages or fully asymptomatic I dont think its known which one of those it is Sourcehttpswwwnytimescom20200125worldasiachinacoronavirushtmllink678343ca|1 His parents teachers and classmates need to get tested asap regardless of symptoms Superspreaders are no joking matterjust look at patient 31 of Korea|0 There we go this is whats wrong with posts like this Blaming a whole country for the act of few But sure Go ahead enjoy your day and feel safe because you have the best government and best health care and safety net in the worldThe world is facing a global challenge it is going to affect every one of usThis is the time to show solidarity and unity across the borders to fight this danger to everyones life not with stupid blame shit like this|1 Thats the dumbest crap ever Stop eating trumps ass for a minute hes not the one who unleashed this virus|0 Thanks nature|1 The thing is its very hard to quantify the positive impact that overreacting has Humans have been overreacting about anything new and scary for all of out history Thats how weve survivedThe problem is that if we overreact and nothing happens they will think it was fine all along without considering that maybe it was the panic itself that made the situation not get worseI saw someone say something like if we put out a small fire before it becomes a wildfire people will believe it was fine all along without considering that it could have been a wildfire had we done lessThis idea is hard to convey in my experience|0 Because the rules for engaging this are different everywhere its not that simple This is an organic simulation playing in real time Some countries will really push the death rate up and for every one of those another will push it down|0 The only country in the world that had no warning of it2003 something something|0 They might take longer to die Regardless of age the proportion of morbidity and mortality amongst smokers relative to their numbers in the population appears lower than expected|0 Just rub some onions on it it will be fine|1 A sous vide scrambled egg with peppers n stuff in it My gf loves em for a quick breakfast I think theyre the spam of our generation|1 I find when I wear a Punisher logo tshirt and carry an ar15 people have the decency to make fun only when Im out of earshot s|1 Very true There is a LOT of data to consider If we look at one number in particular we may see one thing This can be good or it can be bad all I know for sure is I am not smart enough to know these things If youre a doctormedical professional and youre reading this thank you for being smarter than I am|1 If my speech makes you feel uncomfortable I apologize to you again|0 What would be more worrying would be if it infected someone who has MERS and mutated a case or two popped up in Qatar about a month ago which is part of the same viral family and a mortality rate of 38 Very unlikely but a nightmare scenario|0 Absolutely All the more reason to work on bringing our outsourced industry back home Hopefully this reveals our weaknesses and vulnerability on a world scale more clearly|1 i hate this i could have it and not know it because i have a very strong immune system but i cant get tested|1 Majority of bathrooms have showers in them just saying Lol|1 Very sorry to hear As Ive tried to tell people on here smallmid sized businesses are gonna take a huge hit because of this The margins are so narrow that its basically impossible to be agile enough to survive|1 This is a type of flu not a disease 98 of people will survive and more than 75 wont even have more than mild symptoms|0 So can this virus transmit via vertical transmission Im confused|0 So what do we do Its impossible to get tested At ground level i live here And work here Im also the employee or a hospital They wont test I had a bad cough last week so I took all my sick pay to stay home I still have the cough It wont go away For me or my fianc Do we just lose our Jobs and our house or go on living life since at this point all we have a clearly lingering illness but at least not we can get out of bed|0 but my manager is now asking me to come in tomorrow to discuss the situationSounds like if you follow the advice given here just dont go youll end up being disciplined or firedYour question is more to do with employment law less coronavirus Ask in rLegalAdviceUK but check that no one has asked a similar question already|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 He didnt have anyone do anything He fucking sharpied it on there himself The marker was visible on his desk in the photos What a pathetic lying loser|0 You can tell by the name Peak Prosperity hes just another youtube Dr exploiting the ignorant|0 Sure but I wonder at times if a bomb fell on the house of one of these were all friends type of people if they would continue to have that view or if they would change their opinion once they actually had skin in the game Peace is really obvious when youre browsing reddit in line are Costco|1 Oh trust me They aint mass testing NYC for a good reason|1 Why didnt he issue an order making it illegal for any company to fire a sick person during this pandemic State employees may be able to stay home but everyone else will still be at work sick or risk losing their jobs|0 Yes youre right As of this point we are into the millions infected Above 3 I reckon So its just to see where we go from here 56 billion of us will get this now|0 Wait for 2024 another leap year and theyre getting worse and worse|0 I have severe asthma and have had the flu multiple times pneumonia in both lungs and have been fine theoretically he should be good|0 And this is how we create thousands of unwitting patient 31s|1 I used to curl up with my dog with my face buried in his fur His steady breathing always brought me sanity and peace|1 I was about to say the exact same thing China has been screaming on top of its lungs to warn the world but no one listened Developed countries are acting more like developing countries nowadays|1 If you know youre sick youve already been asymptomatically spreading the virus for a mean of 6 days up to 14 days according to the WHO Once you realize youre sick youve already spread it to several others httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfved2ahUKEwiBo8WX8YzoAhWEu54KHXWkCp8QFjAEegQIBBABusgAOvVaw1gORTfaIWQuEkjdvqO7i|0 Its called doublethink and Im impressed at how strong it is|1 Ya never know whether to add one zero or two to the end of Chinas sMaybe three this timeIts just like 1918 except its a cold war this time China doesnt want to admit weakness|0 States could absolutely just go ahead They might get sued but theres no judge in the world that would want to touch that case|0 I thinl you read wrong about Italy Italy 528 confirmed cases 154 or 69 vs yesterday 91|0 No one knows what the mortality rate is but no one can say if it will spread throughout Chicago It most likely wont if the CDC does their job and possible patients cooperate|0 Gosh I hope its not this bug|1 Ok but wait are test kits even effective in the asymptomatic populationsI thought the level infection had to be great enough to cause symptoms before it could be detectedOr am I misinformed|1 Me too I got ready back in January because it was easy to see the trajectory of this Im surprised it took this long to be honest Ive already talked to several elderly neighbours and gave them my phone number and told them to call if they need something but they should avoid the shops if they can They are blowing it off for now well see how things look in a week or two|1 The mask knows if youre a doctor or not they dont work if youre not a doctorOne guy was pretending to be a doctor wore the mask and died a few days after cause the mask didnt work|0 I wouldnt drink the free water in restaurants its just boiled tap water of course Better stick to bottled drinks there too beer bottled water even its cheap|1 Any mainstream economic model is going to say competition will lead to more efficiency and productivity whether this is completely true is fair to question but I believe it is at least somewhat true Id say it depends on the industry company size etc The private sector being less ubiquitous makes me think its not just as bad as a whole If you work at a small startup you cant do nothing without anyone noticing If youre at a law firm they are watching your billable hours DAs are also overworked though but I think there are many more private lawyers Though youre right there are definitely a lot of bullshit jobs especially in companies with lots of middle management The biggest difference is due to unionization pay raises have been hard to come by so often job security is something easy for the government to give and is often taken Im more or less fine with unions when they dont go after too strong of job security thats why people get fired for more easily defined infractions vs performance|1 Youre kidding me right This will take longer In 3 months lay offs will still be ramping up due to the ripple effects Look at employment history after the GFC The long term drag on growth of having this as an endemic disease are currently incalculable It could shave percent off GDP for years RemindMe 3 months lets see what happens with the global economy|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Im glad testing is finally ramping up in some states Im in VA and its an utter shitshow Im about 99 sure I have the virus but I cant get tested unless my symptoms get severe|0 If you pick your nose the virus is now on your hands Unless you then disinfect your hands fingers every time you pick your nose youre gonna transfer the virus to your body via your eyes or mouth in pretty short order|1 They are not The big fuss about the lockdown of Guangzhou and other cities is actually more or less a standardization of measures across the country Few places have stricter measures either because they are in Hubei or they are disproportionately affected by infections from there|0 the funniest or scariest thing is that all those Virologist Clowns here do not realise they are a biggest risk to public health than the actual virus Decredibilization of the WHO is not something to joke with beside of that yeah this sub is goldedit a word|1 They processed more yesterday so obviously this is not quite true Also I thought they had expanded capacity to 200 000 now Im definitely not defending the CCP I think theyre murderous criminals but cases do seem to at the very least have stagnated And the suspected count relative to the confirmed has been going down for a while|0 Thats what we are doing too We dont have much money but Im certain this will be a shit show soon and no one is gonna be concerned about eviction if the whole country is sick Stay home peeps|0 Auto workers here in MI beginning to grumble over being considered essential when we have over 100 or many more depending on size of the plant working in close quarters Some discussing class action lawsuits if they become ill 5 came down with covid 19 at one plant sounds like business as usual for the rest of the coworkers Personally our plant is about out of disinfectant we use to spray everything down and no supplies coming till end of month|0 Caixin has confirmed that not only were CCP health officials aware of H2H transmission in health workers weeks before the official announcement but on Jan 1 they even ordered scientists to destroy samples of the virus Chinese scientists did superb work in identifying the danger of this virus early and dont deserve to have people excusing the failings of their feckless political leadership which prevented what would doubtless have been a much swifter and more effective response|0 Yes many heroes in this disaster are just ordinary people|1 Doesnt Bernie also support UBI He has the advantage people know his name but that also works against him for some crowds however as long as dems dont run biden there is hope|1 Ive decided to hold a banana up in front of my face because its better than nothing|1 Me and my wife we just discussing this He sounds very sick|0 I admit I didnt like how China handled things in the very beginning One thing I did not predict and Ill admit this fully is how godawful the US response would be in comparison China fucked up in the beginning but then they got their shit in gear The US not so much and I am unsure of whether they will proceed to get their shit in gear at any point Im feeling doubtful but who knows So I correctly predicted a lot about how the virus would play out by this point sure Many of us did I did not at all correctly predict how various governments would react|0 gp about SK I have heard that they are actually recovering faster than its spreading iow a net declineHow are they managing the spread without resorting to the forced quarantines that were used in Wuhanbtw Ive been using this httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirusto track progress does anyone know who maintains it Im like to have the recovery delta stated and then the net new Are we gaining more cases than are recovering or actually the reverse China is clearly recovering more than new and SK is close to that but from that data layout its hard to tell|1 Set up your Alexa to read alerts aloud for every 1000 milestoneAutomate to make your life easier|1 the R0 of good vibes is 100 no worrieseven the doomsayers will smile and go silly lol|1 Im in Estonia Almost nobody wears masks here butDay before yesterday our colleague came to work in a mask and nobody laughed We asked him of course and he told us he has bronchitis seemed to be true as he coughedI stopped greating people by shaking hands about week or two ago everybodys OK with it although its Estonia so people here not really like to touch each other anywaySaw a couple of people in masks in my local store One of them was a girl in a wellembroidered mask Would like to compliment her but because Eesti again you dont just stop an unknown person and talk with her without a good reasonI myself was going to make a DIY one too but Im lazy and our company decided to work from home from the next week and Im stockedBTW test prices were about 81 euro some days ago I dont know the current situation and I dont remember any strict rules about who can apply and who can notGovernment closed schools universities sport events gyms whatever else could be closed including borders I heard this morning that only people who live in Estonia will be able to enter the country No Italians lolMakes me hope and believe not everything is lost Great country to live|1 government sniping their people still sounds better than the infected nuking the population|0 I think part of the reason people are told by therapists to disconnect from the constant stream of news comes down to the age old question do you want to live a long life or a happy lifeunfortunately for people like myself and others on this reddit page we opt to listen to our anxiety more so than i think others do Could it keep us alive longer Maybe Will it lead to a happy and calm life Definitely not|1 Thankyou so much for this You are part of the many people that will help prevent the spread and contain the panic Thankyou so much|0 They would not announced a test if they did not know the negative result already|1 Can you Amazon order some canned food|1 This is wrong It is not airborne in the sense that we use the term for most viruses that are truly airborne measles is the best example rather coughing is not required and breathing on someone is good enough if they are close enoughTwo meters distance is far enough away you should be fine Closer Not advisableThe live virus is not found in blood urine or stool Sweat remains an open questionThe RED FLAG is not a cough Its a sore throat And once you have a sore throat You are already shedding virus You will shed virus throughout the symptomatic period and here is the kicker you will continue to shed virus for up to 12 days after symptoms stop httpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003studyhighlightseasespreadcovid19virusesfbclidIwAR1sNdX76CxlOizFKYM6vwtUs2xHNuGJVwOzFoijXTyYpCfEyUyGDlJj0|1 Yeah Im pretty not happy about that And my work wont close because our biggest customer wont be able to make new product if we send our factory floor employees homeAs of that statement theres going to be 3 employees infected at my work If were doubling every week like Ive seen stats on itll be 6 next week|1 gonna be hard to fill the roster for those orgies now|0 People watch scary movies They scare each other for fun There is a holiday where we dress up as the scariest things we can think of and make the streets looks like a horror movie People arent afraid of being afraid What people are afraid of is the unknown People taking a tour through a haunted house will be all smiles and playful screams when the zombies pop up but then if the until the power goes out and they cant see its a totally different story We can take it Tell us the scary truth or prepare for anarchy when you keep us in the dark|0 A look its a Chinese fake news spreading cock holster|0 not sure where you are in the world but I bought a small bottle 100mL at Walmart|0 It started in China so they have had earliest access to patient specimens which is where they first identified the virus from South Korea quickly got access to Chinese specimens and has their own growing contingent of patients with active infection while also having about 150 biomedical engineeringtesting companies in the country Many of whom work with other companies in Japan and China They also more quickly authorized emergency testing protocols and have a larger patient population to test from than we do since we have overall less exposureAlso the CDC had funding cut we lost several top level pandemicepidemic response scientist and administrators without getting replacement appointed and Trump redirected tens to hundreds of millions in militarygovernment funding for his Mexico wall That is why he submitted a request for 25B dollars in additional funding recently for health agencies like NIH and CDC It is also part of why we are behind the curve on thisEdit Downvote if you like but the facts are the same There are no alternatives facts for these things We are short leadership in key roles and funding where it is needed for ACTUAL WORK due to Trump and his appointees using the draining the swamp idea to target those who were not sycophantic toward Trump He then refused to appoint replacements leaving whole sections of health and bioterror response organizations without leadership a year before we end up with an infectious agent spreading across the globe He is not responsible for the virus He and his cronies are responsible for decreased preparedness for our nation and its people|0 The efficiency is insane Huoshenshan and Leishenshan were both open within two weeks I think this is the strength of an authoritarian meritocratic government with a strong hierarchy like China to respond to crisis since the government is very efficient and permits pass quickly in normal times let alone during emergenciesThe construction technology is also quite interesting these hospitals were built using repurposed shipping containers so they were assembled very quickly and they are also easy to take apart Both these hospitals are temporary so the land can be reused after the epidemic blows over They mobilised military doctors to staff these hospitals which was great not to mention the volunteers There were taxi drivers who offered to deliver goods to the doctors free of charge and also funny thing is both Pizza Hut and KFC supported Leishenshan and Huoshenshan hospitals delivering huge batches of free food to the staff there This pandemic is terrible but it brought so much unity|1 Distracting myself hasnt worked|0 Well technically youre still a doomer even if you were right|1 Fun fact of the day|1 Thank you Hope you and your family stay safe|1 Nah Im more of an ok boomer according to my husband|1 This is pretty awesome great work I have a feeling you will have a hard time keeping up with some of the information though mainly the case listYou might want to ask others to contribute if you havent already|1 Same same same Painful to swallow they thought I had strep but test was negative No cough though which I understand to be a major indicator here Whatever this was it went around my department at work fast|0 Freedumb issues Dollar worship|1 rumor says that the car dealerships sharing the same building with the hotel destroyed a load bearing wall during refurbishment which caused the collapse|0 Im not sure why people arent getting this Do they think someone just walks into the hospital and are diagnosed right away|0 I really dont envy the mods in any COVID19 related sub tbh Theyre on the side of the angels but reason has a hard fight against our hindbrain At least they work at it and Ive acquired good intel and leads to good info with this sub|1 Everyone has to make painful sacrifices now Mothers Day is not happening as normal A mask isnt a guarantee of no spread|0 But think about all that sweet money those ambulances will make|1 The distribution described in the paper has more mass left of the midpoint of its range than a bell curve Not sure thats more helpful though Maybe describing the CDF would be better option because thats what you really care about in this instance|1 This was a chartered corona flight to get stranded Swedish citizens out of the red zone and back to Sweden Everyone on board was known corona risks heading home but some of them were clearly already sick and some of them were still not sick at all and probably got sick from being on the plane|0 Use the 2k to leverage for better pay|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 This virus is totally unrelated to influenza virus and would have no impact|0 I urge anyone to not go outside as much as possibleIm sick since yesterday will contact my doctor tomorrow mondayI never leave the house a lot Im a recluse person and work from home 67 days If I have this virus that means Im either very unlucky or this shit is ultra contagious And I have not been in contact with any obviously sick person that I know of|0 Ok kid We get it youre edgy|1 Totally disagree He may not report it at first but if he does have it Id guess we hear voluntary isolation for precautionary purposes and then if he recovers hell eventually use it to fuel the lies that this wasnt serious to begin with because he survived Hell appeal to his base of deniers and try to buy the media on it Ive actually been hoping he doesnt get it or even test for it because unless he dies from it which as much as I dislike the president I dont wish death upon anyone hell absolutely use it in a negative political manner moving forwardIt cant end well no matter what if hes involved in any phase of dealing with a case of the illness|0 It took me awhile to get my mom on board with the requirements For awhile hand washing was always accompanied by a lot of yellingNow shes great though she learned pretty quickly |1 There has to be something that makes patients critical And it cant be just some blood group or something as common as obesity as that would mean way more people I wonder what thing or things combined cause the critical cases as it cant be just luck or lack of|0 More like the number of confirmed cases is going to become more so an indicator of the number of test kits we are producing rather than reflecting the number of cases of the virus|1 And hopefully the school got the hint and made sanitizer easily available|1 If by contained you mean contained on a blue or semi blue rock in the solar system then yes contained|1 Just stay at home avoid meeting people and spread this advice to everyone If people dont meet less people take the virus and hospitals wont get full|0 Dont worry if you live in Sacramento County then youre apparently immune to the coronavirus and quarantine isnt required anymore|1 Lol|1 You realize young people become conservative as they age right Im guessing no|0 if its near collapse by that time it will be too late|0 Well having all your staff be too sick to work for two or three weeks because one person came in working while contagious would also be devastating to most small businessesMost part time workers are working for large global corporations that can afford to pay sick time but dont because they are not legislated to Small businesses tend to take care of their staff very well There can be expansion of existing supports for small businesses but we shouldnt let these large global corporations hide behind the this hurts small business slogan anymore|0 I will be messaging you in 7 months on 20201103 000000 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202011032000000020UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhzwlrtilin2018thecdchadtocutitsglobaldiseasefkequ89context310 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffhzwlr2Ftilin2018thecdchadtocutitsglobaldisease2Ffkequ892F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020110320003A003A0020UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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banned this kind of market after SARS Now fastforward to 2019they are still around And a large city like Wuhan is not rural|0 In Australia All of that is free Ambulancesparamedics included in our power billsDoctors go to bulk billing make an appointment wait 20 mins and see your doctor FreeGo to chemist pay for the prescription reduced price offered for no name All drugs on Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme PBS Heavily reduced 90 medication costs School freeUniversity pay it off after you earn over a certain amount Think 50 to 60 thousand Hospital go in spend two weeks Xrays doctors specialists more doctors medicine surgery more medicine walk out take complimentary antibiotics multiple home free of charge to last 23 weeksBroken armlegfootanything freeYou just have to outsmart the crocodiles eagles kangaroos koalas spiders snakes and everything else that wants to kill you Welcome to Australia Where doctors are free|1 Counter voice here no Not anything close They were at a massive disadvantage by not knowing until damage had started to set in|0 We should be stayingthefuckhome and shuttingthefuckdown but many venues and events REFUSE to cancel until there are hundreds or thousands of confirmed cases in their city Lets flatten the curve together and rshutitdowndown|0 Its because their information producing products are getting sickTheyre doing the right thing for the wrong reasons they cant data mine corpses|0 How cool it is to blatantly promote your business using worst global event in decades while your workers are forced to go back to work despite epidemics So compassionate|0 Im amazed how some people still think smoking weed is healthier than smoking cigarettes|1 Didnt the study on the first 120 cases mention severe confusiondelirium in patients as a symptom they observed a bunch of times I was wondering where that came from they didnt seem that feverish or hypoxic or old|0 dunno Ive encountered more zoomers who were rude and gross Heck had one screaming at the server the other day at the local resturant then she was later overheard saying she was bummed that it didnt get her free food like she wanted and she was talking with food in her mouth and you could hear her smacking her lips like a fucking dog from across the room|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I love my family Its all I have I dont want to get them sick Tears as Im typing this I just wish I knew so I could spend more time|1 Im sure in some way to some people but Im sure I make just enough for them to tell me fuck off|0 To me is was just watching his own father rant online I just sent him legal docs to be the secondary of our POA with one note attached saying I have to do this because no one will stay home please review we can meet with the lawyer later this weekHow do you just act so terribly If we get sick we both die and now Im having to fix up our legal paper work to handle this|0 Yup We almost had our Florida State Thespian Festival Yknow where kids from all around Florida meet in the infected area and then go back home That wouldve been a complete disaster|0 Thats bs In New York it is likely gonna be the fastest growth in the country and people dont wanna stop schools cuz parents would get mad about having to stay home and watch their kids Cuomo has been doing good in all other departments but he HAS to deliver the hard news of no schools until at least April|0 With as many people there are in Wuhan Im sure this is more common than we think|1 Yes Dr Aylward said healthy young people can and do die from the virus and in what appears to be a higher capacity than the flu|0 NYs social services are way better than most states I understand the complaints from people who have never needed them but NY has your back in most situations Most of your complaints sound like a local government issue|0 Sure But youre gonna have to shit again if you want anything while out and about visiting some national park or something|0 No one is forgetting it However if you want people to change you have to praise them when they do something right establish goodwill and open dialogueGiving credit where credit is due to China goes a long way|1 In other words the United States is twice as good as Toronto|1 Well you could always vape|1 Im an acute care PTA We should not be in the hospital right now We are not essential staff in my opinion Cancel elective surgeries and get us out of there|1 Been checking httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVhcpclinicalcriteriahtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVhcpclinicalcriteriahtml So far no change since Feb 2728|0 No one cares|1 IDK how things are in Italy but closing down schools without closing down jobs would be a mess What do you do with those children too young to be left alone We even had to open schools during the summer holidays to help those parents who dont have anyone else Universities and higher levels of high school would be fine but primary schools Not likely while the parents are working|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Is there a line online to specify a tip I understand no minimum wage but in a time like this taking potentially infected money well Or even worse someone giving you a 10 you making change even more money moving around|0 Chinese cant post about it because the government their blocks them from doing so you dense nuthead|0 Poland has signaled they may not fulfill their medicine exports and instead keep them domestic for their own needs And it will take Brussels months to sort that out|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Interesting within the last hour update from the same researcher httpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1234588787641970689httpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1234588787641970689|1 80 Yikes talk about a huge pay cut|0 I couldnt imagine getting drunk with flu Last time I had the regular I wanted to fucking die every day|0 Im so sorry to hear this This is awful But Im honestly not surprised|0 Stigma kills tens of thousands of people every year|0 China are peaceful Nah I disagree i cant explain it its too long of a story but just look it upYou have to remember they invaded tibet in the 50s and they are building islands in the Pacific to have more influence over the area as well as that they export tons of stuff to lots of countries to make countries sort of reliant and dependent on their exports so they could have sway over us if they wanted because most of are common household goods are made in china and without them we wouldnt be able to live normally and we would have massive inflation because it costs them alot less to produce stuff than it costs are countries so we would have to raise prices They produce Huawei phones which have been sold in multiple countries which have allegedly been used for spying and keeping peoples data and the company is owned by one of the members in the Chinas communist partyhttpswwwquoracomWhyisChinabeingsomilitarilyaggressive|1 I would like to see plots showing the ratios of infections per population|1 Its a reactive bill not proactive|0 yes im addicted and have a horrible penchant to try to fix things that are wrong I think its a good idea to let other people save themselves tho im too far goneim here because as long as you know how to sort and filter usually by new and not by hot because the shit that gets upvoted is usually ScArY HeAdLiNeS and not necessarily even proven things its fine the comments are just riddled with misinformation and i love to challenge people who talk out of their ass and when i ask for sources they magically disappear or tell me to go find it myself because it doesnt exist SOMEONE has to challenge the idiots so they stop spreading information and im fine with being someone who does|1 My point was that people might might display symptoms differently if they werent infected nasally|1 Out of the people who have the virus who HAVE had an outcome liveddied so far 90 have recovered and the other 10 have died|0 God bless your contribution to this sub|1 Im not panicking at all Did you not see my last sentence there There is a difference between healthy fear to create a respectful sense of urgency and panic You seem to be very dismissive of the amount of deaths and the exact level of suffering people may go through moving forwardYoure right that we should be positive but the truth is you really dont know how many people are going to be fine Keep in mind that this is a new virus that has NO known cure and it may take a year or more to get one What else can such a virus do but continue to circulate month after month until it runs through most of the population Also the economy is collapsing People are losing jobs and are unsure of the future Even if they dont catch the virus they may be under enough anxiety and so they may not be totally fine moving forwardIf you are going to find positivity do it without being in denial or being unable to accept the fact that arguably MOST people will be negatively affected by this in some way or another|0 Theyre also arresting people who paint China in a true light Regardless of whatever else they do theyre fucking up Translation I am brainwashed by racism and red fear and cant accept a socialist country is actually doing well regardless of facts|0 Freedom of spread|1 I got rubbing alcohol hydrogen peroxide witch hazel BandAids Neosporin toilet paper lotions and creams Hydro Cortizone enough food and water nose irrigation soap eyedrops medications and vitamins baking soda vinegar bleach laundry detergent Thats all I need|0 Party like its 1348|1 This thing can spread like fire Thats very interesting|1 Dude I live in rural Pennsylvania and last year I saw some jackass obviously sick with the flue at the grocery store open the freezer COUGH IN THE MOTHER FUCKER and close the door What variety of countryfried retardation even is that If that shit gets here were more fucked than the Chinese Theyre actually taking it seriously Well have hickballs running around our groceries using frozen dinners as snot rags|0 Man re read all this you contradicted yourself in a loop First its not anyones responsibility to wanna share knowledge nor should they now youre saying they should because you have money What if I dont need your fucking money because Im smart and created what I need I dont wanna be bothered with your inferior ass who didnt wanna figure out medicine for your self Youre lazy|0 Thats one reason why series like the Walking Dead are popular Also the more paranoid subset of preppers want validation Make no mistake this does suck people are losing loved ones and lives are being disrupted economically but humanity will survive this|0 That would be really bad which type has Iran and italy been spreading all over Gods creation I wonder|0 If you are prepping on a budget just focus on the basics and learn how to can Glass jars are the best and you can buy veggies fruit and meat in bulk It can last for up to 5 years and its instant food It doesnt need to be heated or anything I would also get bags of rice and beans as well as a decent storage of bottled waterdrinks you cant live without All you really need is enough storage for 46 weeks I think the only other thing you should consider is proper PPE personal protective equipment with a N95 P95 or R95 rated face mask These masks filter 95 of all incoming particulates including bacteria and viruses through the filter Since this virus is not airborne but can be transmitted via coughingsneezing moisture particulates and door handles etc You could also stock up on basic hygiene products rubbing alcohol 91 high alcohol content hand sanitzer to keep hands clean in the event you cant wash your hands basic first aid kit any meds you might take etc IMO I dont see this turning into a government lockdown but its good to be prepared regardless|1 suffers the worst They do say about death casesBlood group O was associated with a lower risk of death compared with nonO groups with an OR of 0660 95 CI 04790911 P 0014And if we assume Wuhan and Shenzhen cases mostly refer pneumonia and having a pneumonia is top 10 in terms of severity decreased risk of blood group O for COVID19 with an OR of 0680 95 CI 05990771this could be translated into blood group O is less likely to develop top 10 serious condition ie pneumonia either because theyre less likely to catch it or just less likely to develop pneumonia for some reasons But once they develop pneumonia their blood type dont help them|0 i doubt we would have the infrastructuure in place to house that many people andor planes at our airforce bases|0 What the fuck does that sentence even mean Thats how little sense this makes Good thing I got my last preptrip out today We will be sitting pretty for months if need be|1 Need to add s for people to understand sarcasm sometimes Or dO tHiS|0 great point and accurate|1 This is not racistthe very fact this is actively being debted is baffling|1 Chinas pushing propaganda right now to make people forget that this virus started in Wuhan China and grew quickly because of the Chinese governments lack of transparency and suppression of vital informationI find it disgusting the liberal media chooses not to criticize the Chinese government and politicizes this against Trump Disgusting|0 Im almost certain they said masks dont help because they knew that we wouldnt have enough for everyoneWe dont make anything in this country anymore Were beholden to the manufacturing and supply chains of OTHER countriesWe dominant the world in terms of innovation new technologies and RD spending but then we use the slave wage labor of other countries to produce it All so the owning class can increase their margins We need to MAKE THINGS AGAINWere about to learn our lesson I just hope Americans remember it after all this is over|1 corona is just natural selection for modern society Wow you are monumentally stupid and Darwin would despise you for how you incorrectly invoke his work|1 Is it known what happened to him I have a 3 week old daughter who Im terrified for So far every baby that has contracted COVID 19 has recovered which is reassuring but there havent been any babies with the virus as young as her|0 So unfortunate were at the mercy of a bullshit system Avoiding panic worse than actually stopping this shit|0 She didnt call it the flu She compared it to two miserable past experiences with an illness that is less contagious and less deadly as a motivation to do the smart thing and isolate herself unlike many folks her age who are saying its all a hoax Dont chastise the person doing the right thing|0 Get the fuck out of there for fucks sake|0 just tactically do your poo and then jump straight in the shower|1 And surprinsigly it seems a smart proposal|1 No Cancel it|0 Several observations and conclusions Ive made while living in China that makes me concerned1 My family sells medicine and other stuff and have lots of connections to doctors Some of the things he told me are straight up false as proven when I had to call the nonemergency number in Canada several times2 Theres this memory that I had of my grandma killing 45 cockroaches with her one bare hand and I remember staring in silence and frozen with shock and fear for a good few minutes She just continued on watching TV during that time until I kept bothering her to go wash her hands and she did so after several minutes3 People typically order stuff from outside the area and given the observations above I dont think a lot of people will take care of packages and themselves carefully which might increase the chances of them getting the disease and spreading it to other people|1 Suddenly toilet paper and hand gel becomes a luxury commodity |1 Can you share where you got 5 to 20 m|1 I wonder if US is ready for the lockdown event on monday|1 Wait so a national day of prayer wont help this|0 Yikes 75 baby nurses starting without guidance Graduate nurses need one on one guidance from senior nurses after starting for a couple of months When I started as a new RN I worked with a senior nurse for 6 months before I was allowed to manage my own patients Those 6 months were vital and allowed me to grow into a competent good nurseSo while their willingness to serve is great they may actually inadvertently be putting themselves and other patients at risk|1 But I thought FEMA was a bad man|0 Thank God Trump cut back on the mountain of regulations out in place during previous administrations Cutting the red tape will get us back on course|1 Case fatality rateA case fatality rate CFR also case fatality risk or case fatality ratio is the ratio of deaths from a certain disease to the total number of people diagnosed with this disease for a certain period of time A CFR is conventionally expressed as a percentage and represents a measure of disease severity CFRs are most often used for diseases with discrete limited time courses such as outbreaks of acute infections CFR can only be considered final when all the cases have been resolved either died or recovered PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 That would have been easier with commas|1 It could be a RIGHT wing thing preventing them from shutting everything down too Airlines would lose a ton of money|0 90 air travel restriction in all affected countries may delay spread of pandemics by 34 weeks Even slowing down the spread a bit could save lives because it will mean serious cases are more spread out If everyone gets sick at once there wont be enough ICU beds|0 Sooo when we get it should we stop breastfeeding Pump dump feed with a towel wrapped around my face so I dont breathe on baby kidding kind of|0 Agreed|1 You need to play a game of Plague Inc|1 Bring it on yo I can stay at home and order Uber Eats for a few weeks Sounds kind of nice actually Got some oxygen incase I need it|1 Fair but please dont spread the coronavirusEvery small bit we do helps protect the vulnerable|1 It was unfortunately voted in by other morons|0 I am not following your logic Just because a guideline exists in an article it means that the issue doesnt exist Or this issue just doesnt exist for you because you follow the guideline Even in the article it states 44 do not have the means so that means there are 44 more riskier people out there that are not able to survive while this goes on and will have to make tough choices to return to work while sick or get money by other means You have a terribly short sighted outlook on this|0 Most Chinese men smoke but far fewer Chinese women do I couldnt help wondering if that could be why the virus seemed to hit men worse|0 oh i thought you were arguing against the budget cuts|0 Shocking I suggest this goes to the press|0 Let me explain a few things about masksSource My motherinlaw is a retired nurse and worked a few years on epidemic control Ive discussed this with her extensively She is also quite pessimistic about the handling of this particular epidemicWearing a mask wont do shit for a couple of reasons1 If you are sick you can wear a surgical mask to protect others from you This is actually the only situation where masks will help But when you are sick you should also stay home2 If you arent sick wearing a surgical mask or an N95 will somewhat protect you from others Until the mask gets wet Which it will do after about an hour or two of use Once its wet all the crap on the outside of it will get to the inside of it and all your pretty mask will do is create a petri dish for whatever crap is floating around right next to your face3 Okay so you start changing masks every hour or two Heres a fun fact there arent enough masks for every idiot in the country to throw theirs out every 2 hours There arent even enough for all the medical professionals to do that which is why health services are currently hoarding masks4 But even if there were enough masks for everyone to change every hour the simple fact of touching your face will undo all the good work your mask is doing And you know when you touch your face When you swap your mask out for a new one Odds are not a single person in this thread knows how to swap a respirator without infecting themselvesTlDr masks are stupid unless you are sick If you are sick you should not be out in public If you are not sick you should also avoid being out in public and wash your goddamn hands|0 Is relying on immunity really the best choice though There have been emerging reports in both Italy and China of individuals who have been reinfected with the virus So there are 3 possible scenarios1 The virus is mutating at an alarming rate OR2 There are multiple strains of the virus transmissible to the general public OR3 Whether or not mutations or multiple strains are possibilities surefire immunity isnt a thingEither way we do not thoroughly understand the epidemiological scope of COVID19 There have been studies that state that even weeks after recovering the virus continues to shed and is still transmissible as symptoms are alleviated and the virus is eliminated by the immune system We cant bank on anything STAY HOME|1 Anyone else concerned for small businesses My partner works at a small food joint There is no way that the owners have the ability to pay all the workers at all 5 locations for extended sick leave nevermind shutting down for quarantine I worry that if this virus gets a serious hold in North america were going to lose a lot of smallfamily businesses|0 Shallow Real initiative would be simply stating that all treatment will be free regardless of insurance status No nuts|0 Were all going to be conscripted to fight the virus in some way|0 Thats a very good point Im just gonna assume the worst and hope for the best as in doing what I can Gotta talk to my boss about working from home No reason I cant already hooked up|1 Dont mind him Hes a frequent rclimateskeptics poster and thinks the CDC might have released the virus on purpose to hurt Trumpfuckin lunatic lmao|0 Definitely They were talking about potentially setting up auxillary hospitals and thats when he said they had plenty of equipment Uggg|1 Why do I have to remind you buddy eh guy Im sure youll do more than enough telling the rest of us|1 yes i should have clarified this of course all strains ultimately trace back to wuhan china|1 OP your research skills are awesome You are the wonk I always wanted to be That was informative|1 Am student Can confirm Im terrified for older people Including parents and grandparents Most students around me think the same Lots of us considering not going home for easter to prevent spreadEdited because I cant spell four letter words|0 Very brave of you to announce your stupidity like that in public|1 Great now critically reassess all the other conspiracy theories you dismissed before now|1 Tell that to South Korea and other Asian countries where close to 100 wear them and they have been largely successful at defeating the spread of the virus|1 I have a mask related question too If symptoms are so mild people could be walking around sick isnt it more helpful to the weak if everyone wears them even if healthy ppl might use them wrong Sounds like its so contagious we should really just be trying to protect the weak|0 Would love to see this pinned|1 I thought police fine people That is disappointing I fear people in the US would do the same|0 would like to have this but sadly its offline |0 Can total cases of coronavirus be accurately estimated based on confirmed cases and number of tests I believe the proportion of total cases and confirmed cases to be like 10 to 1 in countries like Germany USA Spain based on the rising number of famous people that are infected which are the ones that tested more|1 Good meat sack|1 Eww Americans eat beaver and alligator buncha savages And they call themselves a developed countrySee I can act stupid too|0 This is discriminatory and racist s|0 Herd immunity just means that enough of the population produces antibodies such that the disease can no longer spread easily Whether they got that antibody production from a vaccine or from getting the disease is irrelevant|1 Lmao youre killing me smalls|0 Logic is needed Logically humanity will survive Yes no shit we will beat this virusThe key is in limiting its potential to cause harm something trump has managed HORRIBLY Whatever mental gymnastics you pull off to support Trump I genuinely find it impressiveYou are on the wrong side of history|0 Extremely selfish and stupid|0 Yes people can be contagious even if they have no symptoms and tests can be used to detect the virus on those people|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Schools arent closed in KirklandSeattle lol And we are the hotspotSource I am a teacher working less than a mile where 7 of the 9 deaths thus far have happened|1 At the beginning of the season I reached Champ 2 I dont know what happened always in and out of Champ for 2 seasons now |1 Ok Really simple question hereSince the virus is spreading and id love to be of any help how can i donate my computing power Id like to have a simple step by step guide of some form since my english is not the best and i dont have the time to read every comment german dood here or is it even possible to donate when i am located in germany i really have no clue|1 According to their Twitter account they were hacked Who does that|0 The wheels fell off this government right around 2016 for some bizarre reason Did you see that inauguration though Biggest ever so I hear|0 Glad to help Its not the best job in the world even without a pandemic but its not going anywhere any time soon|1 I bought my phone in china and i have vpn its illegal but nobody is checking your phone|0 No cases of Coronavirus on ship but its suspected to have it by the Thailand and Malaysia governmentshttpswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronaviruscostafortunacruiseshipdeniedbymalaysiathailandports20203|0 I am a law student I was replying to a legal question brought up by the previous poster and was speaking only in strictly legal terms US I am not advocating for any punitive actions whatsoever to be taken against these 2 men|0 Yes but we cant quarantine literally everyone Youre right in that were past the point of containment but we can still mitigate South Korea provides a good example of how this can be done effectively with widely available testing and their hospitals havent been overwhelmed like weve seen in China and Italy|1 at this time the probability appears that by the time this penetrates the population and the infection curve flattens significantly everyone on the planet will know someone who diedthe world wont end it will just be very depressed|0 youre generous|1 Is Lombardia anywhere close to Castellafiume If so can you please tell me what the situation is there Is everything closed downPlease my father works there and he doesnt want to give me any info on whats happening there|1 Look at the locations and how they directly on top of large highway networks This is clearly being strategically released by the globalist|1 Thanks for doing this These belong on your list of resourceshttpswwwcanadacaenpublichealthservicespublicationsdiseasesconditions2019novelcoronavirusinformationsheethtmlPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811Riskinformed decisionmaking for group activitieshttpswwwcanadacaenpublichealthservicesdiseases2019novelcoronavirusinfectionhealthprofessionalsmassgatheringsriskassesmenthtmlI apologize if they are there and I missed them|1 Why does this have a Im Deceased award It isnt funny at all|1 Illinois has 11 cases with 800 tested Im surprised Chicago doesnt have more But things change every day|1 Agreed the true CFR will never be known precisely but its value can be bounded more than 2 and less than5 if ventilators oxygen generators ECMOs and trained medical professionals are available|1 ExactlySevere Acute Respiratory Syndrome SARSCoV scared the shit out of people so everyone took it seriously This time instead of calling SARSCoV2 SARS 2 weve gone with Coronavirus or COVID19 so no one gives a shit|1 This is so awesome Printed out and will put one next to the washbasin|1 Elderly rich or not certainly dont take priority In fact if a lot of people get very ill and need a ventilator there wont be enough ventilators to go around In Italy they are just letting older people die and using the ventilators for younger people because they figure the younger people have a better chance of making it Likely to be the same here|0 RIP hero|1 Also dont forget to tap that notification bell so youre one of the first to get all of this top quality content|1 Why do you say that Because he authoritatively said a bunch of pseudoscience 95 of people cant think abstractly When language itself is an abstract thoughPretty ironic coming from a woke sub like this that people would lap up this disingenuous asscream|0 I remember reading when they had only one suspected case they had in response quarantined over 200 people and had another 1000 under observation so I think they are taking it very seriously|0 lol ok|1 Thats an 8 death rate|0 Being on a boat could be a good or bad thing lol|1 I hate this comment Edit I hate how scary it is|0 Thank you so much for this youre a wonderful human|1 Yes This Work for the Navy and didnt even think of it|1 Not bill but the virus can have complications and you could become an vector for infecting others So yes|1 Heres hoping|1 Shenzhen no restrictions but each district and home complex as well as any shopping mall and public office take your details and test your fever some only the latter Overall quite good they literally drop disinfectants in the street every 20 mins|1 Not all of us have enough medical issues to meet our 5k deductible by April every year and not all of us have the extra cash laying around to even pay off a 5k deductible in 4 months|0 This conspiracy theory is not based on any reliable information If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|0 I will be messaging you in 6 days on 20200312 161613 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003122016161320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfefoh5ivejusthadaruninwithaperfectexampleoffjno5jdcontext33 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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owing on the mortgage|0 There are a number of types of leukemia and that may apply to the guy in question but people are talking like anybody with cancer is at greater risk and thats not necessarily true People on chemo definitely are but thats not all people with cancer|0 Because China lockdowns have helped being so drastic which I doubt many countries in the west would even consider doing|0 Because vaccines are doing such a marvelous job controlling this outbreak Im not antivax but I dont buy the big pharma hype either|1 Read the article before you post lol|1 Does anyone have a list of groupsorgsNGOs that are about to get strained on resources that one could donate to at this time|0 Telling people to stockpile water has resulted in someone being stabbed over a bottle|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Are you asian american Hoping to debunk the stereotyping going around on this subreddit Upvote for visibility|1 the funny bit is it makes no fucking sense If a guy making 40 an hour gets sick someone making 10 an hour can donate their hours straight to them|0 We already know Trump Republicans are simple but thank you for the confirmation|1 Clearly you are under the age of 65 How hard is it to understand that it is NOT ABOUT YOU Thats the point of isolating|1 This is what people are missing misunderstanding If getting medical treatment COVID19 mortality rate is around 34 as WHO suggest But if not getting medical treatment we use the hospitalization rate does anyone know this rate|0 Itll take awhile for the true recovery numbers because nobody knows how long you are contagious after youre out of critical territory Theyre erring on the side of caution giving multiple tests over what could be weeksOne thing we know is those that are hospitalized and severecritical take weeks to overcome this And mortality rates aside thats crucial as it has potential to truly overwhelm health care systems Which is probably why theyre building all those new hospitals|1 The thing you use in summer that blows wind is called a fan|1 I really think they should have leveled with people They could say look were not underplaying this its serious but for the vast majority the illness will be mild But certain groups like the elderly are at high risk Masks are effective but we need them for frontline doctors and nurses Theyre at the highest risk and if you do get sick or your loved one gets sick youre gonna be glad to have plenty of healthy doctors and nurses On top of that most people havent learned to use them properly which means the masks could do more harm than good We are going to ramp up production but right now we need to send all our masks to our healthcare workers be a good citizen and help us protect the most vulnerable|1 Meanwhile Elon Musk The corona virus panic is dumb|0 I mean the part where he says you can talk and complain about politicsBut if you form anti govt movements you get arrested You cant even organize any protest in Singapore Youd get arrested if organized a group to wear same colored shirts in public as a protest|0 Yeah I was saying this headline from new York post is unreliable As a general rule nyp should not be anybodys source on anything life or death|0 Thanks Perhaps the middle road of 2 weeks is indeed the best optionHope your friend and her kids well|1 You want me to tell you what I dont know what I dont know Thats cruel|1 Been watching since January Im kindof at the stage of acceptance now Ive realised that no matter how prepped I was socially isolating working from home eating well keeping great hygiene stocking up on food little by little being safe Its all useless in the face of so many others who are doing little apart from panic buying toilet roll and spreading bullshit memes Ive also got the added weight of a massive economic depression on my mind Ive been planning and saving to buy a house for over two years and if I lose my job which is highly likely for a lot of us I will never get a mortgage Ill be too old by the time the economy would recover from that and I got back to work again Add to that the fact that this year was the year my fianc and I were planning to elope and start a family Id be pretty old for a new mother Im feeling fairly awful right now|0 gg France|1 Los Angeles has the 2nd largest public school system in the country only topped by New York CityDiBlasio said hes concerned aboutA poverty stuck children not receiving foodB bored children high schoolers running a muck in the city and possibly spreading the virus amongst other things C critical city workers such as healthcare employees and cops being forced to stay home and watch young children during a critical timeD Delaying education for so long that the kids are too far behind to catch up in time for the new school yearIm starting to understand why some parents go through extensive lengths and expense to make sure their children go to private schools in the city|0 More like they cant keep up with all the tests that various states are doing themselvesOne trained professional cant continually update a spreadsheet|1 By the same token all unused insurance or items such as fire extinguishers could also be thought of as wasteful Which we all agree that they are not After this pandemic the survivors should consider maintaining functional masks in enough quantities as an insurance policy and as natural expenditure needed to sustain a healthy society|1 Arizona still says its not possible to get Coronavirus Im inclined to believe thats because its being run by the republican party|1 F Fuck Jeff Bezos Right Yea fuck em|0 It is all speculation But based on some real figures a couple guestimates and some very simple mathBased on the data inputs of 1750 confirmed caseshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryus 2440 US day over day growth for the past week and rarely dipping below 20 for most western countrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryusSpeculation 1020 of cases seeking hospital care Most US testing being done on people seeking hospital care Only half the folks wanting testing being tested in the US 23 week delay between infection and confirmation of test result in hospitalThe TLDR is WAAAAAY more people have it than we know but not all of those will be subject to the 23 Case Fatality Rate for those who seek medical care We must act now|1 Sorry for being not clear I was referring to regions with drastically drop in numbers regions have larger numbers to start with|0 I guess its like defeating the flu Not sure if there are many recoveries if they get the more severe symptoms|0 We have 1 confirmed case in our county now well the county over where my daughter goes to school and I stay home constantly with the kids Oldest is still in school because they dont think 1 case warrants closing the school Hubby still going to work but hes a mechanic so he doesnt really come into contact with customers I know we will have to eventually get more food and supplies but we already decided only 1 of us will go in |1 Proactive |1 Its about timeA little bit from the article hopefully theyre on the next flight outThe two sides agreed that WHO will send international experts to visit China as soon as possible to work with Chinese counterparts on increasing understanding of the outbreak to guide global response efforts|1 Youre not alone I have a terrible immune system and some other health issues that put me at risk Im on vacation right now and will have to fly home next week so Im definitely worried|1 I did a science fair thing on this when I was a kid Pretty much everything is more dirty than a toilet seat Toilet seats arent dirty because the back of your thighs arent that dirty|0 China has done a good job of solving the virus for themselves the creators of this virus and many more but hasnt done much for anyone else|1 I mean this guy just went back to his job no problem Not sure about other situations|0 If regular hand washing works I dont see why that wouldnt|1 Nah but another top 10 size city Honestly I think most cities are still like this At least in the US|1 The coverage is a meaningless number If you get sick anywhere else other than where your hukou is you arent covered So take Shenzhen 80 of the people there are migrant workers To be covered they would have to travel back to thier hometown if you cant youre up for the full whack|0 Bless you rpicumurse This right here I remember looking at the other sub reddits in January when there were reports of people collapsing in the street like this Jesus this is terrifying Here I sit at workat a tribal health facilityin the DENTAL departmentwe are shut down and pretty much just calling people to reschedulebut this makes me want to go home to my husband and two kids Thank you for being on the front lines Oh BTW Im in Montanawe have only had 6 cases and all anyone can say is theyre only presumed positivetheyre not positive Just waiting for the CDC to verify is all The local hospital has 5 ICU bedsyou read that right Five Ventilators Who knows People here supposed to be on self quarantine are all going about their daily lives buying up all the food and toilet paper and laughing at people like me who are trying desperately to warn them this shit is very real I cantthis is insane|0 You solved for 31 days On day 30 its 54Mhttpswwwnewtraderucomwpcontentuploads201308PennyDoubledjpgRegardless the key to really understand the analogy is to realize that a week before on day 23 the value is only 42KThe numbers go from not a big deal to OMG thats a really huge deal very quickly near the end|1 So no|0 I feel for you My inlaws are higher risk from age and preexisting conditions especially my husbands grandmother There is a confirmed case about two hours from us as of earlier today near a busy workleisure center for our region Honestly Im terrified|0 Exactly But it would be nice to know|1 Id be worried too|0 Dam man Is there no union that covers your work in your state No rep on site but maybe theres some members among your workmatesIf you know of one might be worth getting in contact with them to ask them what advice theyre getting from regional officesNot a guaranteed get out of shit approach but might give you a lil more insight or other possible options However if union isnt willing to challenge it then seems like it is a done deal Only other option then is trying make noise about it to your local news platforms and representatives I guessEDIT It might have in your contract any union organisations your company recognises But if there isnt id still have a nosey as to whether there any union members on site|0 But the general mentality here is too twisted to let in the real info Thats why I and a lot of my friends that knows more than you do dont want to be any part of this|1 Looks like they would fit right in with Wuhan city officials in early Jan|1 No its racists and so is trying to lie and say it had anything to do with it Shame on u|0 So it sounds like the 3D printer company actually can invoke this if they can convince the government that it was necessaryEither the patient dies or they have a chance of living because the valve is available seems like a pretty clear cut case|1 No just checking the projectile strength Physics 101 Practicals|1 Yes exactly|1 High costs is one of the reasons I just stitched myself up the last time I needed stitches Sure I may have a small scar now but better than thousands of medical debt|1 So on my way home from Chicago last week I was on the phone with my wife waiting at the baggage claim The flight was long and I guess I had fallen asleep and must have been that guy snoringSorry fellow travelersAnyway when ever I snore the back of my throat is rawdoes not happen often Well at the baggage claim I am talking to the wife and I tell her my throat hurts a little I am going to tell you now this is the new fastest way to get access to your baggage I have ever seen It was like I was Moses parting the Red sea after that comment People are so freaking out over other people being sick that even an off handed comment heard by the crowd results in people diving for cover Knowing I am not sick kind of made me giggle a little Ok yes maybe that was a bit of a dick move but I didnt even think about it until the everyone took a step away in one choreographed motionOops|0 At the Boston airport waiting for my Porter flight Crazy shit Made the decision to cut my trip short just two days ago and come home ASAP and Im really glad I did|0 Woah freaky How did you know that by me saying How would this work with the US health insurance I was really asking Let me hear about how bad the NHS is Like did you watch me do the secret handshake as I was typing it up|0 Thanks captain motherfucking obvious|0 No I would rather be considered a lunatic than see that visited upon our population Truly|0 China started producing way more masks for their own use once the virus went crazy now that its basically contained in China they have a surplus and are exporting it to the other countries in needAnd Jack Ma is owner of AlibabaAliexpress and basically its the Chinese Amazon so yeah he has alot|1 If someone in my family dies because of this I will spend the rest of my life taking vengeance against China and also against anyone in the US administration who acted carelessly and failed to block travelers from infected regions|0 Well yabut we dont have that NOW|1 I think he did nothing because he didnt want the markets to crash and people to panic because panic is just as bad as the virus and most leaders didnt really do anything until it really started spreading so I dont blame him that much though he was really late and indirectly got people sick and dead He downplayed the virus because the media downplayed it but he was foolish to trust them because even in times of crisis a lot of the news networks will criticize him whenever they can so he switched and started emergency measures|0 If Nancy Pelosi is not of the DNC or democratic leadership You can Google and find that what you are saying is incorrect and at worst revising the past Its a failure of the governmental establishment across the board Nobody took this seriously and I would argue close to zero do now Very bipartisan in their abject failings with their only focus on power grabs and Never let a good crisis go to waste mentality that has been harbored well before Kissengers day Anyone who truly can stay fiercly political with this going on for any current power figure or establishment politician astounds me as each of these older statesmen collectively led us down this path of ruin by placing corporate interests and growth above the needs of its citizens To new beginnings where people wake up and see they are actually all friends playing us in a game of haves and have nots Like Kaiser Wilhelm II penning letters to Cousin Nicky a little over a 100 years ago They may not be blood anymore but the game is the same Unfortunately we are heading closer to a new Ceaser as the powers that be continue to ignore the people Im sorry to say for those hoping but its not going to be Trump but someone actually dangerous and competent that the majority elect to thunderous applause Thats how republics and inevitably democratic models die Those in any positions of power are careening the western world off a cliff by their sheer insolence|0 They talk about wanting to delay it but in reality theres been zero effective delay measures put into place so far It will be too late soon they dont seem to understand the concept of exponential growthIts like were on a speeding train were slowly getting closer to the end of the line but the driver isnt even attempting to brake|1 Thats not how imunoligy works healthy lungs help but that dosent mean you have an impenetrable imune system|1 Go move to the south if you want to see backwards As a Utahn I agree the lack of separation of State and church is appalling but we are far from the most being the most backwards|0 Most of the deaths from coronavirus seem to be from respiratory failure leading to organ failure no oxygen reaching end organs Multiple organs can fail at once like the liver and kidneys|0 I will thanks|1 I recommend parents to call and ask their childrens school to ask if this is an option It was not clear that in the emails we have gotten I called to address the issue and they told me I can keep my child home and it will be excused|1 Sooo what would not be profiteering Not reporting on the topic|1 Oh Okay thank you I will check that out|1 Edna said No capes|0 Are you joking|1 Unfortunately not everyone can work from home Many jobs cant support that and it becomes more complicated Im fortunate that I am able to do thisI just have to support sick pay and sick leave polices for everyone else as much as I can|0 Italy is dragging everyone down with their depressing numbers of 44 of closed cases ending in death httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryitaly|0 From my understanding noIn this articlehttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020520020107v2 they said Together this study indicates that smokers especially former smokers may be more susceptible to 2019nCov and have infection paths different with nonsmokersCould be interpreting wrong but to me it sounds like former smokers are actually at greater risk|1 A revolt would make everything worse|0 Thats rational Stop|0 See American Excellence|1 Are you an infectious disease specialist Because the CDC and John Hopkins still have not come down on stating whether or not transmission is droplet or airborne Just curious where you got your information from|1 Dont worry the government will manage that like Katrina or flint water crisis|0 this puts the death ratio to 1 This is pretty big number death ratio for common flu is 01 So we are talking about ten times more deaths associated to Coronavirus This is not good news at all|0 No advocating for anyones death much less that of a literal child|0 Its a business they have the right to promote reputable sources and combat fake news|0 100 not true Dont spread bullshit because you think you know Check your facts first|1 Me money on the top chinese officials|1 Werent the SARS and MERS vacciness results effing scary though As in they ended up priming the vaccinated persons body and when they next got infefted by a pathogen they ended up having an uncontrolled cytokine stormimmune response Im sure I read that somewhere around here|0 Im starting to get genuinely worried Seattle is about 7 weeks from start of spread 15Jan which is about equivalent to January 19th for Wuhan 4 days before lockdown Theyve started doing somethings like working from home but theyre in the dark without adequate testing|0 Its saddening to see i truly doubt any of the people getting into those vans or cubes are doing fine The screams of the women going silent give me the chills|0 I feel like the elephant in the room is the bare minimal testing in the official CDC numbers that make these numbers pretty unreliable and biased for the purpose at hand Also dont forget that half of your graph actually were exposed outside the United States since the clinical criteria up until around 228 that was the trigger for testing required travel to China andor direct exposure to a known patient We also know that there was a testing delay between when the patient presented and when the doctors could convince CDC to authorize a test and another delay before reporting it You would need to account for these things and estimate the time of exposure and correlate the temperature and even then that wouldnt account for people that traveled within the state or country when they were actually exposed andor incubated|1 I have a question My sister is an ER nurse and I have N95 masks that I bought a year and a half ago when there was horrible smoke from wildfires in my area If I mail them to her is she allowed to use them all for herself Like is it weird for one nurse to bring in their own supply|0 Oh sorry my bad |0 Username does not check out At all There were 5000 ventilators in Canada 11 years ago No idea where youve sourced your numbersAlso you are orders of magnitude off in your basic math 10 of 70 of Canada is 245 million 5000 What are you talking aboutFurther 70 is both the highest estimate and the estimate of infection over the long term eg 1236 monthsMaybe take a break from the sub for a while|0 In the UK some people are going crazy over it and its sad as it causes more panic|0 I had it about 3 years ago Breathing rate goes up but its labored breathing and the breath seems to give you no oxygen I had really high fever with it too The fever with the low o2 levels made me hallucinate some crazy shit seemed perfectly normal at the time though Like hearing a flock of birds take off behind me while im laying in bed Chest was super tight and painful and I coughed so much I think it contributed to me getting a herniaI never fully recovered I have asthma now|0 Test Cant hurt your chances|1 Thats actually not that unreasonable of an amount Eating out 3 meals a day and covering snacks stuff to drink during the day and the like can quickly add up depending on where you are travelling to and where you chose to eat|1 The New York Time says this story is untrueCLAIM The new coronavirus can cause 50 percent fibrosis of the lungsTHE FACTS False Experts say there is no evidence that the new virus causes fibrosis Dr Robert Legare Atmar an infectious disease specialist at Baylor College of Medicine said patients have not been shown to have fibrosis which occurs when lung tissue begins scarring The virus has been known in more serious cases to cause pneumonia severe respiratory syndrome or kidney failure but not fibrosis People who are suffering from coronavirus may see symptoms in as little two to 14 days according to the Centers for Disease Control Dr William Schaffner an infectiousdiseases expert at Vanderbilt University said he has not seen studies indicating that after patients recover from the new coronavirus they suffer serious lung damage The vast majority of people get better he saidhttpswwwnytimescomaponline20200228usapnotrealnewshtmlhttpswwwnytimescomaponline20200228usapnotrealnewshtml|0 There should be flair for Chinese Propaganda|0 Yeah and the two weeks of being unpaid will result in a hole so large for most folks that it will have massive trickle on effect on the economy people will lose their housing debt will turn bad large incurred interest charges slow down in consumer activity|0 The number of death in rest of China is always small|0 It would have been nice if that same dude hadnt been rubbing up on everyones stuff as a joke right before he tested positive Now its like 500k Thats it What about the kid you infected gonna pay his parents wages too|1 Yea my dad drank bleach with water when he was a kid and almost died He has a huge scar from his ear all the way down his neck|0 Just spitballing here perhaps laypeople arent wearing them properly because theyve never been told how to wear them properly The vast majority of people can drive a car perform complicated jobs manage kids finances family households etc I think they could handle learning how to wear a damn protective face mask|0 he literally turned down a blank check to stay at his current team so im pretty sure hes getting paid quite abit|1 Exactly the situation I was thinking about Of course we know the mask wont prevent the wearer from getting infected in an airtight room filled with a high concentration of the virus duh If I live in the middle of nowhere by myself on a farm I probably wouldnt wear a mask either|0 Hold up I hate to get into semantics here but I thought the flu studies already tested for other virusesIf thats the case how does that violate ethicsThe Seattle Flu Study is a research study designed for the purpose of identifying and understanding how viruses like the flu spread through communitiesApparently they never originally did just test for the flu They may have not had explicit consent but it sounds like the consent forms covered testing for other respiratory viruses I dont think its unethical and likely why she was cleared to test for emerging viruses if they meet the original scope of the study Likely why she was cleared by the IRB Edit from their privacy section analyze it for respiratory pathogens Prior to swab collection you will be required to carefully review the study consent formMaybe the consent form went further but I even found research published that showed they were testing for a massive amount of respiratory viruses httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030220029595v1fullpdfhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030220029595v1fullpdf|0 That 83 billion dollar pledge was only supposed to be a front I think theyre upset they might actually have to use some of that money on the public|0 Yea no kidding We could take tons of preventative measures before we get there or to slow the rate I just dont understand this wait and see bullshit Wtf is wrong with people|0 Ive heard that too I dont know what to believe Im glad you dont have many symptoms though how are old are you if dont mind me asking Pretty healthy|1 Interestingly I made a very small test batch myself yesterday with isopropyl alcohol and it was also more liquid than your typical purell etc I had to use after sun gel with lidocaine as its all I could find I thought maybe it was the consistency of the gel that resulted in the more liquid formula but maybe its just how formulation B is|1 And ignoring the virus would definitelly cause more than 1 of population infected The comparison is to show that the virus does more damage than the economy shut down does And thats just the people who die Those who recover will also be damaged sometimes permanentlyBut by not quarantining people you are NOT slowing down the spread quite the opposite|0 Bendt Distillery in Lewisville Texas is doing this Big shoutout I love them|1 And its not like theyre the best at containing these thingshttpswwwthescientistcomnewsanalysissarsescapedbeijinglabtwice50137|1 Im jealous of people living in Russia now|0 Why This doesnt sound capitalistic Why is the 5 helping the 75|1 See I thought this at first but then I came to my senses Rich people already dont pay taxes|1 Exactly criticism of the government and JUST the government is not racismIts always healthy to be critical of the government even if its doing what you want it to thats how you keep it in check Worrying about whether someones sensitivities when this is a potential epidemic that may directly hurt thousands of people is pretty sillyThe focus should be on how corrupt and authoritarian the Chinese government is and if theyre capable of containing this epidemic Well see if they can do it but my guesses is that theyll do what most authoritarian governments do and try to underplay it|0 Well played|1 Apparently there was a suspected case at the walk in clinic there Likely a precaution but could also be an actual case|0 Toys R Us is closing as of today as well|1 Almost three weeks ago 02122020 NJ I got really sick I had a fever shortness of breath and I was coughing in a short manner So I just stayed home 4 days later my health was restoredNo one was talking about COVID19 back then My questions assuming I had recovered from COVID19 is it possible to know now if I had it or not|0 The cruise line business was hit very hardOH WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR CRUISE LINE BUSINESS|0 dont follow this advice its a trap|0 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Universal healthcare in many of these countries is a total disaster|0 PLEASE watch this people and if not just the endIt is the largest study of its kind ever done and shows what a massive impact just hand washing has|1 I know its awful All Ive gotten is old people saying that people need to live their life its ridiculous that people are so scared its a great time to shop etc Its so frustrating|0 Yeah no shit everyone is only testing people who have been to italy No shit every countrys first case is coming from italyWho knows how many people were undetected in Brazil before first case|0 3 weeks for new cases to drop1 week after symptoms to get seriousaka 45 weeks of lockdown before deaths drop significantlysoooolooks like there wont be anymore homeless people in a couple years as in there will be plenty of empty houses with millions dead|0 2020 The year you wondered if Diamond Princess was a new country|1 Minnesota as well|1 I would guess its a combination of things As two other posters have suggested poor leadership leading to poor procedures and the sewer system may be ejecting airborne blowback on the flush If the former had been competent they probably would have said only flush with the seat down The bottom line is that this virus seems to continue to exceed expectations across the board possibly very long asymptomatic but contagious incubation period 30 or more days possibly 10 meters aerosol droplet travel long survival time on surfaces etc Basically the exposure could have happened before they even knew to do anything about it That will literally be the story of this epidemic and what will give it the highest R0 we have ever seen The only solution is for the whole planet to self quarantine immediately for 3040 days The most disgusting and suspicious part about this is that my government US refuses to take the measures needed to educate people NOW I guess the economy is more important than having people be alive to even buy shit|0 Funny and that is exactly what will come out of the cobra meeting we have moved to delay phase and we are going to do fuck all|0 My favourite is school children telling me schools should remain open even if they hate school Most of us have been following this since the beginning have been following chinaflu since it started and now the uk government are taking more notice theyve all comeflocking to tell us all we are wrong and the governemnt the only government in the world to allow this spread to continue is right|0 Im kinda glad I dont live there anymore Its amazing theres so much stigma for wearing masks designed to help protect yourself and others|1 Whatever he had a com URL I copypasted URL and gave me a broken linkThe thing is I prefer to read comments first then check linked URL mainly this days the reason well paywalls fake news fear mongering TL DR and so on So when I checked the URL was not well written I commented link to OP who then edited itNinja EDIT I think It doesnt harm anyone|0 I dont see how thats relevant to a Country whose leadership is currently hosting concentration camps leavng people to die welded inaide their tombapartmwnts and refuses to let world experts visit and learn about the virus|0 Noted Should not have said only I stand corrected on origin of all products I still maintain that their motivation may not be entirely altruistic|1 Just as you doubt they are making their alcohol from wood I doubt they are making their sanitizer from a toxic chemical|0 MOON That spells fucked|0 Trump The right way What are the odds Dude told people sick to go back to work|0 Universal Studios is making all their movies in theaters available on demand this week Another reason to StayTheFuckHome|0 Are there any graphics or charts that cross age group mortality rate and preexisting conditions mortality rate I want to know how many young people without conditions have died but I cant seem to find anyAny help would be appreciated|1 But if it does Or if a prowler is in the back yard He thinks getting a flashlight is paranoia Ive only been completely right about everything so far|0 Sounds goodAckman gonna pay for it|0 Spread it like a rumor on social media hed probably do it for the clout|1 Positive to hear but also distressing that those that recover are still infectious for up to 9 days after all symptoms have subsided Many of those are returning negative tests to only test positive a week later|0 Thank you My sister the one who said maybe you should up your Zoloft just called me and admitted she had a panic attack and was sorry for dismissing me|0 Yeah thats the real take away Someone isnt telling the truth about how it spreads|1 The CDC actually had pandemic prevention staff in China before Trump slashed the funds|0 Oh DAMN IT AUSTIN The HIV outbreak wasnt bad enough|0 Lol if you are a girl and cute|1 Dovers powder for minor aches and fever and Stickney and Poors brand Laudanum 45 drops in a glass of water for more severe pains You can get both at your local apothecary Also via mail order through a SearsRoebuck catalog The second is especially useful if you find yourself having to get the barber surgeons to lance a boil Though that particular symptom has no relation to COVID19Given the pandemic there may be shortages of these But the East India Trading Company has many ships and is quickly able to resupply the apothecaries in most countries and colonies|0 I find it funny how the reasons given to us during history lessons is so that we dont make the same mistakes of the past And here we are 2020 we just dont learn|1 The average R voter is also rural and poor yet somehow thinks that a big city billionaire actually gives a shit about them|0 Suomi fire detection triggered on the location at the time|0 The suspected cases with imaging features of pneumonia are clinically diagnosed|0 Health care is shit please visit herehttpwwwoecdorgelshealthsystemshealthdatahtm|1 I would very much like to see at least some of those posts|1 If they had to they could grab a large warehouse for a few months as long as they have supplies stashed away I suspect there is such a plan involving the Canadian forces|0 As of now it is only a nasal swab and has to go pretty far into the nasal cavity to be effective Im very skeptical the average person would be able to adequately test themselves|1 Why does everything about this administration have to suck so fucking hard|0 Yeah with Italian travelers spreading the disease like fire right now there has to be so much more undiscovered cases across the country|1 Crazy how I dont want people making comments about me dying right|0 I hope everyone get out of this better than before Mathew said it best httpstwittercomMcConaugheystatus1240026783975530501s19However I am from Australia|1 There can only be a surge of positive cases if they actually start testing people Or at least thats the only way the public will know|1 Im really glad to hear someone say thisPeople in the rnews thread seem to be forgetting about a thing called entropy We cant just stop maintaining the world for months and expect it to be there when we get back Some people have to keep working so the rest of us can eat|1 No testing no virus no problem keep buying them stonksWhen Pres Trump praised China for their efforts we should have seen this coming|0 The lack of testing and protection for front line medical staff will go down as a national disgrace Hospitals are going to be overwhelmed and understaffed because staff have been needlessly infected due to lack of screening in Jan and Feb Its March and they have already blown any chance at containment and now they are blowing any chance at mitigation leaving offices schools and public events open|0 Why not probably the last chance most of us will get to see Tool knowing how rarely they perform Who cares if he went I guarantee many many people have this virus already and dont even know it Stop the ridiculous panicking makes you all look foolish|0 i love you |1 My state was given a grand total of 300 tests by the CDC We have over 10000000 people living here This is per the state health department website|1 Well I have had recurrent C Diff a few times and every infectious disease doc told me to use antibacterial and the dinguses who keep buying it up are stressing me and my gut flora out lol|1 I agree it has been one of the better but we need to take immediate and drastic measures over the next two days or it was all for nothing The seriousness of the situation is not being grasped my many people|1 somebody rewatched CONTAGION just as i did 110 would not recommend|0 I hope youre able to find another therapist that works The ones I have seen over the past four years have all been really helpfulI saw something possibly another post on this sub about how you should take a 24 hour detox from the newssocial media after doing any research about the coronavirus since its not helpful for your mental health in the long run I think thats good advice for most anxietyinducing news anymore but especially with this since it really is one of those things were stuck dealing with for the time being It also helps me to keep in mind that people are very bad at keeping things in proportion and that our brains are programmed to focus on and remember the bad information since it wants to protect us so every single persons post youre reading is someone taking already worst case scenario information assuming that it is a given without having a full understanding of how likely that worst case scenario is and then sharing it for you to see and do the same The only way to combat that is to read the most factual information we can so stuff from the WHO or CDC that gives a full context for whats going on and then balance it all out with positive stories of things that are working in our fight against the disease I agree on the having a new appreciation for going to out in public when this is all said and done I never realized how much I took for granted the ability to just GO somewhere and not worry about it afterwardsI wish you luck in feeling safer and getting through this tough time Feel free to reach out if you want to talk further or commiserate this disease is making us all isolate in real life so might as well make internet friends lol|1 No they dont and its likely when the quaranting ends and the borders are open even if theres one case left on the planet it could all start again|0 I doubt it All the rumors said today and Trumps speech was just practical suggestions He said they were looking at a few hotspots in terms of quarantine but that some places are barely effected at all|0 They wont People got their head in the sand over here Its fucking crazy|0 Yeah Im from cali too I think california is being pretty proactive but its the shortages that scare me|0 plenty of warningYeah all them videos of people dying and bodies stacked like cordwood That where called hoaxes by the authorities people where trusting to provide accurate dataAll them voices crying out from China before the boot stomped on there necks for trying to warn the worldWe sure did have plenty of warning Our take away should be to never trust the CCP|0 this is not enough but its a good start|1 People are pissed Enough people Not right now Enough people in a few weeks after this virus is halfway through out population Yeah But then less because well be dieing or so sick we wish we were|0 Who cares celebrity worship is cancer|0 i dont see open the gates and send the sick looking migrants to europe|0 Ouch Sounds like bacterial infection Thanks for the heads up I will insist on sterilization next time|1 Hello Reddit friend no need to worry about your sellers in Aliexpress the main epidemic situation is only in Wuhan wich is under control The government is actively taking many measures to deal with it|1 I had a feeling this would happen Is this WA state or a cluster of states You said PAC NW|1 I tried to explain this to explain this to a few friend recently and they just laughed at me like I was mad I tried to explain that they just want to be ahead of the mad rush so they dont have to be out in the thick of it once our area starts getting cases and again they brushed it off So Im just prepping for myself now|1 They did the same kinda thing during the Spanish flu and look how that turned out|0 Of course they are different viruses and comparing their different properties exploring the different data they produce can be very interesting Thats like saying there is no use in comparing the economy of Argentina with the economy of Ireland because they are two different countries and nothing of any meaning can be derived by comparing two common characteristics like their GDP or population size Or its like saying there is no value in comparing the civilian casualties of The First World War with the civilian casualties of The Second World War Providing the data is properly calibrated I find comparing the statistics from two different outbreaks to be very interesting|1 youre not gonna fix the problem without dealing with its roothttpsimgurcomao2Eghff|0 Why do you think the public health network in the US is so superior to the Chinese|1 Why just because of COVID19 Not being able to afford rent groceries childcare etc is just as negative during the rest of the year If you recognize that those are bad things and bad things for the economy and national wellbeing then that stimulus should be extended all the time Theres even a name for it UBI|0 ScoMo has a lot to make up for after bushfires and he sees this as his opportunity cue the contemplative portraits splashed around the day after he moved ahead of WHO to declare a pandemic|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 I dont think the bus driver would be involved the bus went to St Petersburg 600 km from Moscow and right back theres very limited interaction with the bus driver even the bus driver would be infected he wouldnt be contagious immediately on the same day etcHowever that bus with the first Covid case flew in to Riga from Iran on that same day its a common transfer option if there are no direct flights from someplace to Tallinn does go RigaTallinnStPetersburg so its very plausible that there are many passengers who were going from Riga to StPetersburg sat for many hours next to that infected person and then went on in their daily lives in Russia as far as I understand all of them got notified but it doesnt mean that theyll necessarily selfquarantine|0 Its not 600 but 400 who are no longer considered serious which is about 5 of the total in this category|0 But a mask that does not have a oneway exhaust value does not allow passage of particulates Those that do may block some but that is the difference between poor protection and good protection|0 Hmm I dont believe theres any data that this virus is immune to alcohol or bleach According to them it works Sorry not my field unfortunately httpswwwcloroxcomhowtodisinfectingsanitizingcoldfluotherdiseaseshelppreventthespreadofthehumannovelcoronavirus2019ncov|1 Thats what I fear more than the virus right now Its the same reason people doubt vaccines They see the overwhelming success of such efforts and determine that they arent necessary|0 Say whatever you want it is much safer to be in China outside of Wuhan than in Italy at this point|1 one would hope that both the Chinese government and people would put a renewed focus on quality of life rather than economic growth at all cost Hope What a nice little word In other news I hear theyve relocated all the lost kittens of Wuhan to Urumqi to join the puppy party industry|1 I mean the only bottle of rubbing alcohol on Amazon right now is going for 100 Its ridiculous|0 lets chill its just chinese dying and when it gets to us we have a decent chance of survival|1 You hate insurance companies MY wife could have done that in Canada and her bill would have been simply paying her taxesjust like we all do|0 No idea about ventilation or kitchen hoods but large respiratory droplets can in some cases still spread farther than youd expect in standard conditions For example if theres a lot of crosswind eg hospitalsI came across this study recently which had a pretty interesting note about where and why the suspension of airborne particles can be much greater in some unexpected settings like hospitalshttpsbmcinfectdisbiomedcentralcomarticles101186s128790193707yOne should note that aerosol is essentially a relative and not an absolute term A larger droplet can remain airborne for longer if ambient airflows can sustain this suspension for longer eg in some strong crossflow or natural ventilation environments where ventilationinduced airflows can propagate suspended pathogens effectively enough to cause infection at a considerable distance away from the sourceOne of the standard rules Stokes Law applied in engineering calculations to estimate the suspension times of droplets falling under gravity with air resistance was derived assuming several conditions including that the ambient air is still So actual suspension times will be far higher where there are significant crossflows which is often the case in healthcare environments eg with doors opening bed and equipment movement and people walking back and forth constantly Conversely suspension times even for smaller droplet nuclei can be greatly reduced if they encounter a significant downdraft eg if they pass under a ceiling supply ventEDIT if youre talking about bathroom ventilation in homes I really think thats a stretch Youre talking about aerosols from a toilet being flushed then being dissipated by a fan I just cant see a significant number of droplets making it through that kind of scenario intact|1 Damn hows it going in Canada|0 I think other significant limitations are no way to factor out how diligently countries are testing Theres also no way a great way to distinguish between transmission within the country and cases imported from elsewhere particularly for the countries with fewer cases|1 Thank you School this brother|1 Share bedrooms and reserve one room in the house for the infected|0 Thank you|1 you can release your numbers but you gotta pray for an affirming sign from God first If its ok with the big guy upstairs its ok with me Mike Pence probably|1 Theres NO such thing as COVID19 or SARSCOV2 there is ONLY WuHan virus WuHan virus is the ONLY appropriate name|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Omglob youre fucking awesome thank you|1 At my high school tons of kids are coughing recently and shit so if people do have it here its pretty unrecognizable from a cold Doubt its actually covid19 but we do have a confirmed case already in the county None of the teachers are sick tho|0 Hows that supply chain working for hands sanitizer isopropyl alcohol n95 masks lysol for you Because the stores I went to have none Hospitals have been having orders for PPE canceled or not confirmed And you should be avoiding going out particularly around service workers right now easy way to do that is to have enduring you need ready at home|1 Maybe the propaganda value of these high numbers is that they reduce the mortality ratio I mean maybe showing a much higher number of cases lowers the death rate assuming death reports dont skyrocket too That lets them switch the narrative to yeah its out of control but its not as bad as you think|1 Just pretend the virus doesnt exist bruh itll go away|0 Spain is almost as bad as italy|0 Yeah right College kids just wanna have fun theyre not going to cancel their social plans because some people they dont know or care about have died I work on a college campus and I know these kids wont do anything like this|0 Thats bull crap Surgical masks dont provide 100 protection but to claim they dont offer any protection at all is disingenuous|0 The word is heavy They finally decided in part because of the alarming levels of inaction|0 342 new cases shit|0 What is the name of the restaurant Ill write to them asking what their plans are to ensure safety of guests and staff Tell your friends and family to do it as well If you have to call them out publicly on Facebook|1 Unfortunately they arent slightly slowed down but not enough to be safe|1 Im originally from the least Ohio city in the state cincy but Ive lived in Columbus for school for a few years and work teaching music at a highschool in a tiny town north of cbus I have to say that your perception isnt apt at all for a lot of these folks however this is just the western and central parts of the state that I know Driving through it sucks Ive been driving 150 miles each way this week for planning events and lets just say its exciting to see a county market|1 Im guessing thats closer to the count in washington alone|0 What about when JZ believed that showering would prevent AIDSDuring the trial Zuma admitted to having unprotected sex with his accuser whom he knew to be HIV positive but claimed that he took a shower afterwards to cut the risk ofcontracting HIV WikipediaTheres tonnes of other sources about this shower comment he made during his rape trial|0 At this point there arent enough statistics to get an overall death rate Like any disease recovery rates are affected by the infrastructure and ability to respond of the countries infected You also have an unusually high spike in the beginning before the medical community gets a grasp on whats happening Unfortunately were going to need to watch it sweep through a bunch more countries and for a longer period of time before we have any clue what the death rate really is To be honest though an overall death rate is probably one of the least useful measures of how at risk you are Its a number that lets governments prepare for the impact on the economy but it doesnt have a whole lot of actual use to an individual person You really have to assess your own risk and your own situation and take precautions if you need to If you want to figure your personal risk out youre just going to have to take a good honest look at where you are Are you in a hotspot Are you immunocompromised or do you have preexisting condition especially lung related How close is your nearest hospital And how wellequipped are they to deal with large numbers of patients Do you have friends or family you could call to help you if you need something and youre sick Stuff like that Focus on what you can do to reduce your risk and wash your hands|1 Holy shit|0 How many millions of tests would be performed on panic stricken people that are completely healthy You test the people WITH symptoms Doctors wont give you a test just because you want it Tests are conducted to confirminvestigate the symptoms Its amazing to think that people are stupid to line up for test because it is free and doctors are stupidier enough to administer the test without any symptoms|1 google translate saysMore than 10 cruise ship passengers are positive A Hong Kong man on a cruise ship has been infected with the new coronavirus and several passengers have reported positive reactions to the new coronavirus Is from more than 10 people The Japan Coast Guard has begun work to transport those who have tested positive Persons who have a positive response will be transported from the cruise ship to the Yokohama Coast Guard on a patrol boat of the Japan Coast Guard and then transported to the hospital An ambulance is already waiting at the Yokohama Coast Guard|1 Covid19 is like a box of chocolates you never know when but youre gonna get it|1 Italy got hot hard because it has an extremely old population 60 of the population is over the age of 40 and 20 is over 80|0 That idiot knows nothing He claims that a cure can be created in months and that the US is ready to tackle this virus We are so fucking not ready We have an extreme shortage of face masks and test kits It has already been reported that we have some 40M face masks as of last week Most of it is probably gone nowItaly have tested over 20k people S Korea tested over 70k people and here in the US less than 500 people have been testedCome on wake up people Demand more from this lazy administration|0 They only stopped servicing because they were wasting money Thats the only reason just like KLM Airfrace|0 Yeah bad|0 Very interesting Ive heard of homemade hand sanitizer but not homemade masks|1 We are alone |0 It would be especially useful for dealing with the MAGA types who think this is some mediainduced hoax to bring down Trump they are rampant on twitter I found out about this from fringe forums like this one and altright twitter accounts in January The MSM has been downplaying and misreporting from the start|1 Fort Lee has a large number of south Korea travelers maybe source of transmission|1 Yeah Italy has like 6 death rates far higher infection and death rates yet mid Feb reported about same initial infections than everyone elseThis means that it has likely been passing undetected in populations If you botch the initial contact tracing quarantines you have no choice but to do these crude blanket methods|0 It would protect the kids that dont have it already|1 Not in the UK but Ill take the thanks Ive been setting up Duo mobile and making sure everyones VPN connects from home 16 hours a day for the past week straight|1 You joke but thats what one of my coworkers is afraid of The virus will go dormant in the Summer and then come back and everyone will already have the virus but just then start to show symptoms|1 How stupid can you be to assume he is even an American let alone a Bernie bro|0 Its when economicaly dumb people think that if they ban higher prices somehow it will help while it actually works the opposite way and creates shortages and gives no incentive to provide products to emergency zone|0 Its about time Hope Disney World follows|1 I feel bad for them I thought about ordering from my local one too but I am going to wait on ordering or eating out for at least a month or two from anywhereMaybe at least 3 weeks By then Ill know if its actually spreading in the US or not Honestly I am cautiously optimistic now we havent had any new cases spring up in Wisconsin since the first was reported a few weeks back Two more weeks and Ill be feeling better about this at least here|0 Not as bad as the guy going bar to bar purposely trying to spread the disease|1 Best moment to release pokemon sleep|1 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Hongkongfp evil China again I know some Hongkong people hate China and Chinese so much more than some China hater eg Peter NavarroIs it so easy The virus is new nobody has any idea of it it takes weeks to identify Would US government shut down the whole economy and set people into panic by just 1 patient has got a new unknown virus Chinese government acted 2 weeks before the whistleblowers wrote the warning because they were thinking they could control it without letting the people fall into panic it failed the results we saw on 22January if people were in panic and running into hospitals and the whole health system in Wuhan collapsedThe people in Wuhan offer their freedom letting the world get more time to prepare but what you have done You could prevent 99 of virus too if you acted why you didnt there is no if the fight against this virus is not an easy game Consider countries like Italy has one of the best health system of the world why is the situation so strange now And Mr Trump forbid all the USdoctors to talk about the situation only through CDC no double standard please|1 Like the lady in San Antonio went to the biggest mall in the city right after being released from quarantine turned out she had a weakly positive result|1 yes theres two kinds the total fatality rate and the case fatality rate make sure you distinguish on the news they are generally talking about the case fatality rate|0 That sounds good but in the UK schools havent shut Ill be reporting to work tomorrow Crazy|1 Gotta continue to control the narrative As Homer Simpson once said I hope down means up|1 There was a Chinese official saying that the people counted as suspected all had flu symptoms they just didnt have enough kits to test themPrior to that I think most were assuming suspected was more like it is in the Western cases quite likely to be negative maybe only 510 of them true cases|0 A man walks us though the obituaries in the largest newspaper in Bergamo Italia First he shows us obituaries from the 9th of February and they take up about a page and half and then he shows us Fridays paper with 10 pages of obituaries At the end he says Una semplice influenza Message being This is no simple flu Please take care of yourselves|1 OP and most people in the thread are using the word panic to refer to overreaction Its quite confusing for anyone who actually read the article|0 Bowl in sink very slow drip Even if the bowl tips over theyll lick the faucetIf you cant do that heres what you can do A water toilet has two parts the bowl and the tank The tank fills with relatively clean water make sure all the blue tabs have been taken out and clean and flush the tank completely Then when you evacuate just leave the lid of the tank off Your cat can lean up and drink out and when it gets low the toilet will automatically refillThese are emergency evac options mind you The first choice is always to take your pets with you|1 His pneumonia like systems something you dont wishSpongebob Contaminated pants|1 I think departing during these times of national tragedies would comfort me knowing that there are many others going through the same motionsx200BFor whom the bell tollsIt tolls for thee|0 He said word for word I dont want to close down schools because parents cant find childcare|0 Why havent they just done it anyway What happened to AmericaMan I really wish I knew This is the actual question I have Fuck the federal government fuck the healthcare system leadership fuck all of them Im not interested in the blame game right now I will definitely be when this is over I want to know why in the fuck nobody who was in a position to lead actually stepped up|0 Well they still have crematoriums and the need to deal with the uptick in usage Wuhan had to bring in some sort of mobile crematoriums since the existing ones in the city couldnt keep up|1 My brother and his wife are due to have their first baby midApril and she works as a nurse So Im hoping by some miracle shes able to take some time off or something so that she doesnt get infected by a patient or fellow staff member|1 Its UofT not surprised I wrote an exam today and fire alarm went off in the middle of the exam Guess what No one left the room we all just kept writing Its sad but school everything especially in UofT Not too hopeful about them shutting down our school|0 Im onboard with all that but why is the R0 for the Black Death a disease with far higher mortality rate than 2019nCoV relevant at all You could quote the R0 for Pertussis or almost anything else|0 Dublin please|1 Sure nothing I did is hidden anyone can see the diagnostic rules they released|1 yeah kind of like the 15 trillion being pumped into wall street over the next couple of months|1 RL carriers national LTL carrier is business as usual as well No employees being sent home drivers or office and no safety products supplied whatsoever Just do what you can to stay safe and clean regularly|1 Does your whole family live together If you can keep her separated from him by at least 6 feet at all times and keep anything that he may eat off of sneeze on etc away from herCheck her temperature every 12 hours using the same method What I mean by that is use the same thermometer with the same route For example an oral thermometer and not switching it with a tympanic thermometerGet an app or make a flowsheet and track her temp Im not sure of her her preexisting medical issues so I dont want to give you advice that might hurt her when it comes to use of antipyretics or cough medicine If her temp hits 1004 or starts to trend up call her PCP immediately Do you have a humidifier Keep one on hand It will help relieve cough symptoms mightily Make sure she washes her hands frequently and correctly and keep on the PCPkeep calling and tell them you demand an action plan for what to do should she develop symptoms If her PCP wont does she have any specialists involved in her care If so ask them for one|1 Well you should probably get in contact with Germany Israel and Australia because they say its a pandemic And WHO admitted that if it was a different virus they already would have classified it as a pandemic Is 6000 in a population of 50 million widespread Or is it about the area it covers If you look at a map of Korea it looks pretty widespread Same for the US and we have thousands or tens of thousands of infections already we just havent tested anyone yet Im criticizing them because they said they no longer have the ability to classify it as a pandemic If thats true thats really stupid|1 Do you think that National Health Care in the US would have helped in this situation|1 Ha I wonder if anyone will dare|1 Dammit What wry humor did I miss|1 I read this everywhere but thats not true look at the second page httpwwwsalutegovitimgsC17pubblicazioni2173allegatopdfhttpwwwsalutegovitimgsC17pubblicazioni2173allegatopdf numbers are 56 years old but they are surely lower now you can see the trend in the third pageAlso Italians smoke less than Japanese South Koreans Germans Austrians httpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesbycigaretteconsumptionpercapitahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesbycigaretteconsumptionpercapita|0 This is exactly what Im doing If nothing major happens in those countries in the next month then Ill be a lot less sketched|0 Id like to hear stuff from Mexico news have been slow andor secretive and so far people have only made panic shoppibg but thats it no mask wearing and public gatherings arent decreasing a bit|0 Im guessing a lot have had it have it and they arent documented Which lower the death rate|0 Thanks Sorry I was about to fall asleep when I asked so I didnt have the motivation to click the link at the time|1 I know its almost valentines day but thats pretty forward mate|1 I mean shes 103 Usually old people start to stop giving a fuck about almost everything|0 Canadas population is probably denser actually but more isolatedI think our testing has definitely bought us time We were probably testing 20x more people per capita than the US for most of February which has allowed us to catch a much higher of cases and gotten them to selfisolate Meanwhile the US probably had hundreds of undetected cases in late February spreading the virus all over the placeThats why we had 25x more confirmed cases per capita than the US did for most of February but now that the US has started ramping up testing in the last couple days theyre realizing that the virus has been spreading unchecked in many parts of the country and their total cases are increasing much faster than ours|1 The only difference is that usually if a person is infected they gain immunity at least for a while A virus wouldnt spontaneously mutate at once in everyones body nor would it be the same mutation The mutated strain will have to start over to infect everyone again to kill|0 Unlikely theyve said the virus doesnt do well in humidity or heat so|0 everything you say make sense and are definitely factors to keep in mind thank you|1 14 to 15 days is doable I imagine most get restless if was a long time I just keep hearing people taking no notice at all |0 At this point it is likely impossible to tell if this is fact or media fiction as they keep referencing the researchers but fail to name them their institute or link to their studyAt least i couldnt find a clear link to it in the news post but I may just be stupid since its 5 am and I just woke upTake any media post with a huge block of salt unless it can LINK ITS SOURCES and NAME THE RESEARCHERS|0 Best of luckDrop by the pharmacy and get a box or two of Guaifenesin typically sold as Mucinex but a generic will be fine Dont get the DM or cough suppressant version You want to cough that crap up if you can an expectorant might help|1 Exactly From the beginning Ive never understood this or the only x amount of people have died well if one of your family members was in that equation how would you feel|0 Our healthcare clinics in utah have five tests each with no additional in sight We need this now|0 Yes but you cant lock down big cities at least if you want the economy not to fall apart It made sense in the beginning to lock down small cities or something but now its not doable anymore its already too widespread|1 Correct Hopefully a taste of UBI makes people realize a real UBI is the way to go|1 Thank you for the clarification|1 But by definition isnt scarring permanent Are scars not the result of the healing process I was under the impression that the 80 who have it mild wasnt going to need treatment|1 Also I literally just finished cleaning up and doing all my laundry and putting it up in my dressers This has been a months long project lol laundry was a serious problem in my house Ill start storing shit in my car before I let this virus change my new found cleanly lifestyle|0 When the CDC is so desperate to get folks to have three fucking days worth of stuff they literally cannot live without that they start putting out a zombie survival guide maybe make sure you have an extra weeks worth of heart pills|1 I noticed his pronunciation of that word yesterday So weird|0 No They arent a source They host source material They publish the work of othersBecause it isnt peer reviewed anybody can post whatever they wantJust for the sake of showing how low the bar for submissions are I personally registered for an ORCID number and registered as an author on bioRxiv I did it just now took 10 minutes and I didnt even need an uni email I used my gmail|0 it has Overweight and obesity is the real pandemic you should worry about|0 I live in the midwest as well and all the stores I have been to seem to be unaffected|1 Well god damn that is spooky as hell|0 Pandemic Swine Flu infected nearly 61 million people and killed up to 575kOnly time will tell the true numbers behind COVID19|0 Yes where is everyone who has tested positive Why arent they all over youtube TikTok Its very odd|1 I agree it feels distasteful but these are nonetheless mostly people who are at least taking covid19 seriously On some of the other subreddits there are stats and maths people working on the spread At the very least they are people who believe it is happening arent in denial and are therefore probably washing their hands and taking precautions They want to be prepared We wont all deal with this in the same way eg black humour will work for some but not others etc But we do all need to work together and understand that we are all affected and coping mechanisms differ|1 No offense but without actual data this is all just theorizing and leads to nowhere I cant find any age related numbers for UK or France and nobody can point me to itOf course younger persons can get it and even die but those are very very low cases 02 or depending on other preexisting health issuesEditGot data from UK around 05 of infected below 50y will require critical care that is a lot|0 They left and hedged weeks ago If you want to be a good market player you need foresight|1 Umm yes but I was attempting to settle down at 26 I was slightly ashamed that I had not yet Youre a young adult at 26 youre not a child The fact that a 26 year old would happily selfidentify as a child is a problem in and of itself Also please learn spelling and grammar|1 This could hardly be further from Bristol youll be fine|1 Loss of power water and other city services is very very unlikely Below is the best summary I have seenhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsfc1avviwroteasummaryofwhythecoronavirusshouldutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare|1 In the 16th Century there was a resurgence of the Black Plague in Pommerania what we now call Poland A man with the surname Haaseke modern day spelled Haasch who lived in a village called Lietzow took a look around one day saw that people were digging up the dead to eat them and that most of his family was now dead He picked up his young son and literally ran into the woods where they lived for something like a yearI am a direct descendant of both of them|0 Hey Ive been holed up for two weeks now resisting the urge to get groceries Stir crazy is another issue|0 Depends on the size but yeah when I went there were perhaps 20|1 Well Im sure her memory of it was pretty prolific as well as helped along by having told their stories as a family throughout their lives Not exactly like trying to recall if someone forgot to put the milk back in the fridge or not And if you actually would have listened to her recollection she was old enough to deliver food on her own to families|1 Good ol race baiting Gotta love how the altright pushes this narrative A number of prominent medical officials have noted China bought the world time with its extreme containment measures Well except America The US sat on its ass not testing most people whose doctors recommended tests and did not provideguidance to hospitals on the infrastructure improvements they need Major hospitals in China have hundreds of ventilators because of past epidemics American hospitals well youre lucky if your local hospital has 5 and I do mean lucky|1 I stopped eating takeout Chinese after finding out how easy it is to just make at home|1 This is my dilemma not sure if I should go get more|0 The hospital system is not build to cope with double the flu cases which is what would happen if this were just the flu|0 Kind of like grocery stores not closing because they got people Edit they do need closed idk why people think otherwise Must be the good liking of a Corona get together|1 I agree I suspect the reason to withhold testing is that the CDC is very well aware that this is already widespread At this point releasing test results that prove what they know will potentially just lead to public panic and the media surely wont help So limit testing to what may be severe cases only I also think the start date in China is likely at least a month back I am pretty sure this was global easily in December|1 Yep youre that guy|1 didnt tell us about it for 2 monthsYou not paying attention to news reports doesnt equate to China not disclosing the infection Two months No lol|1 To me I think its the people that are panicking about the stock market that are the problemI think the government should just halt fucking trading till this is over so we can focus on the disease instead of worrying about the fucking economy instead and letting the disease kill everybody|0 They would look into any spikes of cases That being said it would be too late This pneumonia shows up differently as well so they would know right off it is viral IIm not saying the US is on top of their game but this would be obvious to doctors|1 Agreed Really made me angry Tourist activity perhaps|0 Me too I was wrong on a few things like when I said the market would drop 800 points the next day and it dropped 1190 but overall I find my predictions were on track enough to be sufficiently depressing|0 Also from ATL So incredibly sorry youre going through this but grateful for the information about the current status of testing We are in a location that I am fearing is going to be hit very hard one of the largest international airports etc and not enough is being done to prevent the spread Glad Fulton County schools closed when there was a suspected case etc but large events arent really being cancelled here yet like they should be Just introduced myself to a new neighbor with small children and when I said hey man if stuff hits the fan like they say it might if you have an emergency and need something let me know as a Golden Rule kind of gesture when he responded that its not going to be like they say it is We deal with flu season every year my immediate thought was Ill see him at my front door in a couple of weeks My MIL is a nurse Im a social worker who has worked in hospitals This is not going to end well We have immune compromised family members in both households We are taking this as seriously as we can stocking up without going overboard only running in and out of stores for essentials canceling plans to go to the ATL United game this weekend I had been looking forward to sitting in the supporter section for a year now and got tickets forever ago Its the hardest thing to give up oddly planning fun themed nights for spring break instead of going on vacation etc I think by Monday we will be staying strictly at home except for the school aged kiddo We cant bring something home that kills grandpa or causes mom to infect her patients and my new health insurance hasnt kicked in yet We know we will eventually come down with it but we are just trying to buy enough time that if we need tests hopefully we can get them and if one of us needs a ventilator hopefully there will be enough to go around But we have resources other people dont have We can afford extra food and meds I have been in a position I couldnt have prepped so I am grateful butthis is going to be so bad very quickly Stay safe and get better soon OP|1 Lol how many parents pulled the this is are only break from them This is just the flu kids are fine Its stupid I keep reminding them its kids under 10 that are fine under 10 And have to explain mild case comes with 104 temp and pneumonia|0 Neither of you are wrong there are multiple reasons that the winter is worse for sickness in general Humidity As you said People are vitamin D deficient from staying inside people arent exercising as much from being inside and seasonal depression hurts the immune system as well This is anecdotal but I bet if somebody ran the numbers youd find that people eat like shit during these months too Daily deaths increase by like 1012 in these colder months for multiple reasons including the flu Basically what Im saying is that winter is bullshit|0 Hogans press conferences have been pretty straight Hes like yeah were getting ready for drive thorough testing but we have no idea when were going to have enough lab personnel and tests to justify using it He doesnt sugarcoat the situation|1 The idea that anyone writing for yahoo knows anything and this is just click bait bullshit is more what everyone should know Yahoo is one of THE worst reporting news agency out there|0 Not to mention those that we do have are going to get sick themselves|0 The masks dont work unlessNot true Different masks have different levels of effectivenessEven a shit mask is better than just walking around like a mouth breatherAlso wearing a mask makes it difficult to touch your face and generally makes people keep their distance from you too|0 Nice tryApparently Im not one of those who made a Reddit account just to post on subs like this and rChinaFlu Just a random guy on Reddit who occasionally browses the sub because I care about my safety and who happened to know a bit about the coronavirus|1 It doesnt matter Cant pay the military when you dont have money because the conditions of your labor force have rendered it useless and noncompliant|0 I never prepped before this either and have suffered ridicule from some of my own family as well I have seen people fistfight in Walmart on Christmas eve over toys The less time I have to spend out there when panic does set in the better my own family will be The CDC and the world at large has given us warning to expect schools and businesses to be closed and possibly moreBe ready and stay safe The crowd isnt going to take care of you|1 Four BIG dogs They range from 65over 100 pounds They eat a lot I may grab some canned food too but one of our guys has an incredibly sensitive stomach and massive dog diarrhea blowouts are not something Id want to deal with on top of a quarantine|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 A benefit of a high deductible plan is often lower monthly premiums as well as tax benefits for an HSA which often comes with an employer contribution For me my yearly total out of pocket costs are the same or possibly less by choosing the high deductible plan|1 But other parts of the country is not affected same as Wuhan|1 He tells us no shit or bullshit Pick your poison|0 Good news Must be because of Nadine Dorries Thanks Nadine|1 A Houston Rockets executive tweeted to support a free Hong Kong and China threw a hissy fit even though Twitter is banned in China They put a huge pressure campaign on the NBA and players and tried to censor the whole league Canceled preseason games in China and threatened to not show the games or sell merch in the whole country Most sensitive government in the worldWont even admit Wuhan Coronavirus started in China|1 I didnt mean that it was even close I apologize Im just American and always held 911 in my head as the single most impactful event of the 21st century Its just difficult to wrap my head around how bad this is|0 I dont think it does end quite frankly I think the news does eventually ease up on talking about it after the peak of this thing and after treatment becomes more readily available Im a year or around a year youll hear about a possible vaccine and when the cases slow down they might give up on making one like with Zika and SARS But it doesnt end This is a new germ in our world now But it wont always debilitate us because we physically adapt Diseases are always changing and our bodies are always adapting Once this thing runs its course you see it loses momentum because the body will recognize it in most people It doesnt end it simply becomes forgotten as the pandemic will end Not the virus|1 It would be a miracle if everyone would stop going to fucking Disneyland and stay home|1 they also recommend not touching their hair lol im going to start using that|1 I sanitize all my electronics and clothing items that do not get washed every week like sweaters etc as soon as I have access to sanitizer wipes in my car|1 I cant avoid catching it Avoid spreading it Im not staying home for 2 weeks straight I wash hands boost immune system Screw everything else No large crowds|1 The true answer is that the west highly values individuality and privacy We are an individualistic society We have laws that protect any personal health information from being shared Still the authorities should be able to release the location age and sex without revealing who the person is|1 If you adhere to the statistics for most people from the ages of birth upwards you have at least a 1 in 500 chance of dying In America that is much higher due to lack of response I would consider a global mortality rate of 02 relatively high especially considering the rate of infection That is more than 20x the risk of seasonal flu|0 At my campus not a whole lot would be able to stay home but households around here are often multigenerational Kids would probably stay with grandma or auntsuncles or if theyre old enough theyd stay home alone I had plenty of kids with working parents out the whole day the last time we had a delayed start for snow Its also worth mentioning that at my school many kids eat all three meals at school Closing schools in economically disadvantaged areas also cuts kids off from nutrition services But if parents feel their kids arent safe at school Im sure theyll pull them and figure something out|0 Well this is the worrying bit they noticed this happening when they tried to make a SARS1 vaccineIt seemed to trigger when someone had a low level of antibodies in their system So if people can get reinfected relatively quickly like there is some speculation about the second time could be worse|0 please do the tracking from first infection day charts|1 Outliers are not enough to ensure R0 1 People are paranoid not concerned|0 I dont get what this proves Politicians die all the time I dont why people are sayin eVeN thE biG wIgS aRE gEtTiNG siCkDyINg|0 smh clearly not all lawyers are smart Glad you secured the evidence if you ever need it hopefully not|1 A petition for this please|1 I read somewhere that HIV has an average of 1 transcription error per copyThats bonkers and presumably goes some way to explaining why its proved so hard to cure|0 I agree when people say nationalism is a disease But the exact opposite is not healthier At allwhat you described is not the opposite of nationalism its something like cultural cringe the opposite of nationalism is not hating your nationality its internationalism|1 Id also support a removeonsight policy for homeopathynaturopathy Itd be hard to catch with automod but I think you can expect quick reports at least|1 at that point a life with poor credit is infinitely better than wasting decades paying it off bankrupty here I come|0 Still this shall pass but could lead to a precedent of tyranny and far worse than even this pandemic The breaking of constitutional law would cause more problems than I could even consider Anarchy alone may kill more than the virus|0 I have done alot of research I bought a nebulizer a collodial silver making machine as well as saline and hypertonic saline 7 as precautions A few days ago I was staring to feel ill Throat ithchy slight wheezing chest tightness I took a tablespoon of collodial silver 15ppm into my nebulizer and used it for a couple min took a break and did it again All symptoms went away shortly after I have Albuterol but thats for emergencies at the moment|0 He was feeling under the weather due to low morale and fatigue we dont know if he is truly sick or not|0 Or that fucking comedian in Oregon who passed a single infrared thermometer reading in Cambodia and said on Twitter that he tested negative |0 World health boss is a cool title|1 Youd have to wipe down the buckets every time too I thought you were talking about the little dude in the middle Yes likely they are travelling together|1 Barely any fatalities outside of Hubei even Im curious what people make of the 537 cases in Zhejiang with 0 deaths though they do have 10 in critical condition That seems crazy low Is it just a very long time from onset to deathIf we assume half of the critical die that makes 5 537 or 1 which is not that far off from Hubeis 3 but still|0 I wonder if really big gatherings are actually more dangerous than smaller gatherings If you have 10 restaurants with 2050 people or one restaurant with 200500 people is the second situation actually more dangerous The sick guys spread it to the people next to them who then spread it to more people|0 Its just a matter of time The timing is the tricky part Do it too soon and people break quarantine or the quarantine itself ends before the virus peaks Do it too late and the healthcare system may overload|0 Homeless people usually only have one set of clothes If it rips their screwed and they might not be able to get to a Goodwill Khols is also cheap and they provide blankets I could see luxury brands closing and I could see khols downsizing supply chains on things like jewelry But I dont think they should close cheap retail Also you dont need clothes if youre deadMost people wont die even if they catch it But they will die if they dont have clothes in cold temps|1 1160 contacts So much for that r0 Shincheonji head has been charged with murder they infected people on purpose|0 No FEAR is the most dangerous Fear kills more than corona every yearedit my goodness the downvotes i was being sarcastic people this thing is scary AF and the stupid fucks of our country keep telling us fear is more dangerous|0 The Kwisatz HaderachAll joking aside he is a hero I cant even imagine having the level of bravery he possesses It is aweinspiring In this tragedy so many people have revealed themselves to be the best humanity has to offer I am in awe of their courage and dedication If and when this whole thing passes I hope the sacrifices of these amazing people is honored for all time I also hope that the cowardice and greed of certain governments is acknowledged and remembered for all time|1 I live in the Netherlands today I had to go shopping My wife and daughter stayed at home to reduce the risk of infection I saw that other people ignore it shopping went with the whole family and one person would be enough|0 Because you like this experience of the current administration making healthcare decisions for you|1 Thats only if you believe the CCPs reported numbers which have been legitimately questioned by subject matter experts as being 1050 lower than reality|0 Alright lets calm down lmao|1 Depends on the plane newer models have very effective circulation systems that pull air in at points all along the plane and hepa filter it before its recirculated|1 Ive read a lot on that and I am not convinced those cases were reinfections|0 I work for the NHS and all meetings and courses are to be cancelled or postponed|0 australia only has 25 million odd people square kilometres of dirt dont catch the disease|0 Would areas of the US which are more arid like Arizona have less of an infection rate|1 WHO GAVE THE LAUGHING SKELETON AWARD BROOO|1 YES my feelings exactly Their agenda is to keep us in the dark in my opinion Theres no way the death count is as low as they claim yet theyre doing all this stuff over itwhen the flu kills thousands a year It seems so secret The truth is all we want and deserve to know|0 I guess a show with an empty crowd is still technically a show|0 Isnt this what they argue isnt a problem because private healthcare The system is so bigly and perfect because the citizens are being gauged world best now they say it wont hold|1 This is technically correct but contextually a mess If someone recovers from the 2019nCoV coronavirus yes they could be infected with a DIFFERENT coronavirus however these other coronaviruses are not subject to a widespread outbreak Please take your fearmongering elsewhere|0 Humble like drax|1 The majority of bush meat and wet markets support poor populations that have little to no alternatives for reliable and affordable food|0 Unless we run out of condoms and birth control no I know people are quite distracted by the virus now but hopefully not so distracted that they forget to use birth control en massesIf anything this will probably cause birth rates to fall even lower Times of crisis dont tend to be the times of increased fertility Were definitely going to have economic depression Theres already a growing number of people who opt out of having children because they think climate change will fuck the planet up so soon and so bad that its not worth it Well now we are going to get a glimpse of small scale societal collapse or maybe even a bigger one Cant imagine many women who would want to get pregnant during a global pandemic|0 Same dude They closed us down one day for cleaning because a lady from work DIED She said she felt sick Friday died Saturday Rip its really sad but so far they said she did not have corona just lupus and pnemonia It really freaked me out tho|0 We dont believe it We have incompetence from the top down|0 Can confirm everyone at the store was coughing yesterday it was mad As of today my wife woke up sick with cold symptomsWhich makes me ask the question what do you do when you live with someone that is sick What a disaster|0 Hows that If it burns through the community the lockdown will be shorter but the death and destruction will be much greater|0 There was supposed to be an Ireland V Italy rugby game in Dublin today Imagine all the Italians that still flew thereImagine how fucked Dublin will be in 2 weeks|0 Any advice for those that are forced to spend multiple hours a day on public transportation Ive followed the virus for a while and taken several precautions but it all seems silly when Im trapped like a sardine with coughing strangers every day|0 Im in a cohort thats not likely at all to die But i want a family Excuse me for caring Sorry to have concerned you|0 Thats called serological testing and various government CDC are working on it Probably wont be done for months and thats when well know the actual rates|1 You would think and yet I still see delusional people fiercely defending Trump on Twitter and blaming Democrats|0 Now youre just trying to deflect OP feels he should have been tested for a disease and that the doctor was wrong to discharge him You come in swinging and go into ridiculous inflammatory hyperbole mode equating any question of medical practice with a home appendectomy How is that not trolling and in what world do you think thats okay|0 This would really be the first time a threeway tug of war has been in place between an infectious disease central control and a modern travelsupply chain Chinese cities have such a wide footprint foods have to be shipped through a lot of routing points toandfrom We dont know truly how deadly the disease is but we know how deadly the Chinese government can be How much panic will set in at Wuhan and what people will do with this calculus is going to tell the difference At best they are looking at a Katrina something that cuts about 1 off GDP at this point at worst all of Chinas practices will get called into question I mean would you trust the economic report that tells after slow down in 2019 and Wuha flu in 2020 the numbers miraculously shot back up|0 Yep double tap is highly overrated|1 maybe they should just block travel from people with Chinese passports Maybe add TaiwanHK passports onto that list as well since the virus most likely spread there in the last few weeks as well|1 Bloody hell that was a pretty bad error to make Those poor people must have been worried sickHope to god its not one of those positive negative positive again cases weve been hearing about|0 I keep asking the same thing At this point every day we wait means thousands of additional folks disabled or killed This is surreal and I wish I knew what to do to get our government to act Youd think the situation in Italy might have given them a heads up Argh Good luck all|1 I wonder how it would compare to the spread of the flu prevaccine|0 Thank you Chinese billionaire|1 Basically a sham wow But it works|1 Maybe when this finally blows over management will finally see our worth and throw us a pizza party A Fellow RRT Stay safe out there yall|1 Everyday hero|1 Im starting to think that The governments strategy is for own Chief Medical Officer thinks that 50 of people who to catch the virus So 2080 of everyone will get it over a 3 week period and 95 will get it over 9 week periodlet it blow through like Boris said so we dont get a 2nd peak next winter|1 I agree but at the same time if they can direct people away from instead of towards bad information Im all for that Now if we could just have that same level of commitment towards our elections a lot of us would be quite happy|1 The incompetence of the current administration is on full display Its scary AF|0 Ok but it increases exponentially when there are no measures to control it So 10k now even at a conservative estimate of doubling every 4 days means approx 10 million would have it by the end of April with at least 100000 dead but probably more because of the collapse of the NHS due to so many people needing hospital intervention at the same time|0 What have I denied AlsoGate keeping Reddit much|0 Glad I went and bought a bunch of food a month and a half ago last place id want to be is in a crowded public place|1 What a naive comment|0 It is quite sad and I believe its because our public education system in the US has been doing something fundamentally wrong for the last century They are not developing that intrinsic thirst for knowledge in children They are also not helping children develop critical thinking skills and a sense of civic duties eg votingKids grow up and fail to instill those valuesqualities into their children Its a vicious cycle which results in a massive portion of the population that is mindbogglingly ignorant and that has trouble accepting simple factsEducation really needs to be turned upside down in this country and then itll take 23 generations to recover|0 The mortality rate on that virus is insane If it spread like Covid19 with the 14 day asymptomatic period it would put the plague to shame|0 Every day people are assaulted on subway just in general so I would be weary of reports Make sure you read the details about the assailant please post the sources too lots of these activities are typical but get exaggerated to be clickbait|0 Ok great thanks What about getting it twice Does that improve my odds|1 One argument to make is that the masks prevent people from touching their mouths and nose as much Which is partially true but people tend to make adjustments to the mask which is risky Masks can be beneficial preventatives but require a lot of proper behavior sterilized hands before using sterilized hands after removing not using a single mask for too long and not reusing those masks I have a halfface silicone fitted respirator mask with P100 filter canisters which certainly will filter what is breathed in which is why theyre rated for cleanup of hazardous materials chemicals and biological entities such as the Hantavirus in dust from rodent droppingsurine which happens to be the specific usecase I had acquired mine for and yes those are very much sold out right now|1 Anyone else feeling extremely grateful for Johns Hopkins in this crisis their tracker website is amazing and now they have a 24 hour test|1 Definitely add Sweden to the list They tell us that kids should not stay home from school because they are not the ones spreading the virus|1 Well hospitals need more than manufacturers can provide What now|1 Dominic Raab DominicRaab is not looking at all well in parliament Coughing into his hands publisher dinahditch links in tweet httpsiimgurcomLSCpZ8Qjpg|1 OMG insider trading last 10 minutes of market They planned this press conference so they could play some market games|1 My fridge is usually pretty empty I only stocked up on nonperishables as cant really afford to do both People think Im overreacting when I say you need to aim for a 2 months supply I feel like they think Im being negative but what Ive realized is that people think this way about any types of hard truths that theyre not comfortable with I ultimately figure if ya dont need it you can eventually use it Who doesnt like to eat right lolAlso about the TPIt is sold out everywhere here now For those that did not grab some while they still had the chance dont forget about wet wipes as these are still in stock at least around here Hand sanitizer can be made with rubbing alcohol and aloe vera gel There are ways to make it work just gotta think outside the box|1 We used this insulin for our diabetic dog for several years before she passed Would definitely work in an emergency situation Be familiar with insulin conversions and keep honey on hand in case blood sugar gets low Keep a insulin testing kit as well you can draw blood to test sugar level periodically to make sure the dog is okay We could only ever get a blood draw from our dogs upper lip so we of course hated doing it but had to on occasion Just note this kits work differently for dogs v humans so know proper levels for your dog|1 Every time someone says that I picture the clichd scene from a movie where it keeps showing the bomb counting down and in every cut back no time has actually passed despite the car chase helicopter crash or shootout|0 I feel like there is a bit of confusion between correlation and causation here Not something you can just deduct from this one piece of information|1 RIPCant even imagine what he went through seeing his city getting decimated and falling to the virus himself|0 I would any other time agree with this Its a great exercise and skill to haveBut unless you have someone to show you what and how or its specifically a common knowntoyou vegetable food in a garden ie tomato potato corn whatever dont put it in your mouthThe last thing healthcare workers of the world need right now is someone who ate a mystery plant showing up half conscious and puking at the ER or crapping their way into electrolyte imbalances and needing fluids that may be in short supply in the coming months|1 It would be far sillier to assume that people can not make full recoveries from this illness without substantial long term studies to demonstrate such an outcome But hey if its scary its upvoted in this sub no matter how utterly stupid it is|0 RTA people The wording is not what you think it means I quote the articlex200BIt said in the note that until sufficient transport capacity becomes availableit would no longer accept mail from other countries that transits via USPS to China Hong Kong and MacauNote the highlighted phrase If you are in the US and want to ship a package to China or Hong Kong you are okay Its for countries that are NOT the US shipping packages to China via USPS|1 beep boop Im a bot that provides downloadable links for vreddit videos Download via httpsripsavecomhttpsripsavecomdownloadtdg5h8miu48m41fdg5h8miu48m41360mp4 Downloadable soundless linkhttpsvredditdg5h8miu48m41DASH360sourcefallback Audio onlyhttpsvredditdg5h8miu48m41audioFirst link is active for 6 hours Mention me again if it is down InfohttpsoldredditcomuserVredditDownloadercommentscju1dginfo3232Support32me32httpswwwpaypalmesynapsensalat3232GithubhttpsgithubcomJohannesPertlvredditdownloader|1 Neighbours need to organise to help one another If medical staff can help because their kids are looked after greatOf course would you want the medical staff to be back in the community as they transition from high to lower risk areas|1 My guess is that you need to have 5 employees to have one 247 on site They are shifts weekends sick leaves vacations so 5 fte fulltime equivalent needed to have at least one person accessible whole time|0 Its quite assholic to make someone pay over 100 more for a second bottle if they truly need it|1 Yes this was only in Wuhan Outside of Wuhan is perfectly back to normalI cant speak for Wuhan but the rest of China is alright now|1 Reuters for a scientific source Fuck sake Youre a retard|0 If you know anything about influenza I question that you do then you would know that the facts are very clear about high temphigh humidity when it comes to viruses|1 Any chance you have room for a family of five over there Because this gets scarier by the minute for us|1 Its a little worse than that people are running marathons fathers are taking their daughters to dances people are selling fake cures or calling the virus a hoax Sitting on our thumbs would actually do more good|0 Went along with a relative as they were getting lasik eye surgery in Heliopolis The place inside was beautiful but smelled like cigarettes Ppl were smoking in the waiting area It blew my mind|1 They do have their own supply chains but it sounds like there wasnt enough advance planningBuying a mask on the consumer market is not taking it away from a doctor Production has been kicked up to meet demand|1 My wife finally has woken up Still didnt like the doom and gloom but now sees its worth preparing Ive been advocating preparing since shit got serious early on in China I could see it coming|0 Part of our de facto pandemic response is expecting people who live paycheck to paycheck to willingly stay home and die if they start showing symptoms either from the virus or from starvation|0 Im pretty confident these numbers are from last week If all these tests have to still get done twice and sent into the cdc these numbers are behind by quite a bit So i think realistically if we want to find out the current numbers right now we will be waiting until the end of the weekbut how do you really explain that to the public without them freaking out Theres a lady posting in a yyc sub saying she was one of the ones tested and they lost her results She was sick and decided to go out in public while she was sick People are inconsiderate and clueless This is is just one of the many problems we are gonna see reaaaaaallllly soon Whether she is lying or not People are going to do this stuff regardless and continue to not wash their handssneeze and cough without covering their mouthnose properly and just be the dirty germ infested humans Its just the truth Hopefully there are still enough out there who take it seriously and are doing our part Its not too late to start I started a month ago Heres the post she made in yyc httpsredditcomrCalgarycommentsfgix5acovid19returnedsicktoyycfromitalylastweek|0 So I need to smoke a couple packs a day to make up for lost time Got it|0 Political biasbecause they value their lives over an economy that can recover Are you mad|0 Why no travel restrictions on Italy and Korea issued These two countries have similiar if not higher infected rate compare to Iran and China|1 In the case of Sweden it wasnt 2008 that did us in it was the refugee crisis We had essentially completely open borders until quite recently and took in a huge number of immigrants most of whom never enter the workforce and which are a larger than usual drain on public resources for various reasons I wont go into|0 If youre going to speculate on all those brave souls sitting at home then speculate about all those brave souls with a mild case sitting at home too|1 There is no point in blaming young people for they are reckless in nature The blame should be put on the travel agencies and airlines for creating a ruse|0 Greed of the few|0 Oh I am in the USA I just wont pay|1 It can be effective but only as long as they are promoting what health officials are recommending and not making up their own advice|1 Isnt it a worry that most vulnerable elderly have no clue how to utilise the Internet My 93 year old grandfather would not have the slightest clue how to access this|0 Thanks for that nice to know not just me as I have the same conclusion I feel like a tidal wave of pain is coming Im trying to tell people around me and they are looking at me like Im mental|1 Doctors and nurses should be the highest priority to test Everyone should be tested We should be capable of running 100k tests per day by now|1 Just want to note that despite CPR doesnt mean much general survival rate in cases where CPR is performed are very low|0 Ban travel from China did brought US sometime Ban travel from EU hopefully will also buy someTrump is much saver but not enoughOnly Vaccine or effective and cheap cure will really turn the tide|1 Dont antibacterial wipes do nothing in terms of killing virusI know nothing of this except my wife told me I grabbed the wrong stuff when I got antibacterial soap instead of hand sanitizer|0 The travesty is that its left to individuals to raise prics The manufacturer and retailers should be marking these up not leaving it to individuals to buy up stock then relist on CL or Amazon|0 This is why I am not thrilled about the Los Angeles Marathon being held next Sunday Over 27000 athletes from all 50 states and more than 78 countries will be coming to town|0 COMING WEEKSI swear to fucking god someone hold me back|1 Id say about a month and a half of eating how we usually do Were a family of 5 and eat A LOT But if we make some adjustments we could probably eat for 3 months Ive got a lot of beans rice pasta tuna and chicken too I couldnt afford the good stuff either |0 Hes definitely in a highrisk category|1 My kids are both gen z My daughter struggles with two autoimmune diseases but attends college full time and works in a preschool Both of them are gems and Im not the only one who believes that|0 Selfisolation is to prevent yourself from catching something Too late Selfquarantine is what you should now do to prevent yourselves from spreading it to othersYou will not be tested Many many people around the world are in the same boatYour immune system and your ability to get treatment for the symptoms will be important If any of you develops shortness of breath or trouble breathing you should put on masks and get ready to go to an emergency room at a hospital but call first so they know you are coming and can prepare to isolate you from other patients|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Lol Im a life long leftie who is not pathologically against the government Didnt vote in the Brexit referendum|1 Most of my kids were in class yesterday and even after we were told there was school next week something just felt off Later that day they cancelled school I get that surreal feeling|0 At this rate Im gonna talk to medical staff with a thick Italian accent feigning broken English and then babbling in pretend Italian|0 Hopefully they will restock and people wont be as fast to buy it up|1 I also saw a tesla like a few months ago|1 Yeah I have that as well Stapes are important which includes maple syrup in my case |1 Why the downvotes I think its perfectly reasonable to be testing pneumonia patients given how quickly weve seen this spread in other countries I agree 100|1 was thinking of changing tbh myself will get it changed thanks|1 Someone might as well step up and be president|1 Agreed this is exactly what happens in my Canadian province Famous and important first|1 In France the majority of people are under 60 Not taking a side because I dont know the ICUrate by age group but your statement is also misleading|0 No it does Im one of those stubborn types still stuck in the past thanks |0 She and her colleagues at a lab in Seattle began testing for COVID19 without permission from the CDC In fact they had asked for permission to do some testing but the CDC said they were not allowed to do that because reasons They did the tests anyway found them to be positive for COVID19 and were then able to get the word out that the disease was present in Washington|1 You might also find this helpful and reliable httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 whoops lol|1 Super|1 Lets not forget the US has the super bowl this week One of its biggest crowds food sharing events|1 A lot of people trust the government too much The ones Ive talked to see this as the flu They feel the government would be doing more if it was serious so it must not be I think if they had actual transparent numbers of those tested theyd feel differently|1 Update Quarantine officer infected with coronavirus was carrying out an inspection of the Diamond Princess cruise ship near Tokyo NHKSourcehttpstwittercomBNODeskstatus1227382098539032577|0 As someone said earlier its like comparing cancer to aids|0 I have an engineering degree so a little better at math than the general person but im no epidemiologist or medical expert When i saw shit going down in China a month ago i made a spread sheet modeling viral spread and then put in different R0 and deadliness values that were being tossed around at the time Literally took me half an hour to know beyond a shadow of a doubt we were in deep shit and i immediately made my own personal safety plans which have been in place for over 3 weeks now There was no rush and i was thankful it had started to far away and it was so easy to understand what was going to happenEvidently it was just fucking me It feels like with all of its resources our leaders in CDC and Federal government were somehow unable to get their collective heads around this until maybe this week The incompetence and negligence in this situation is truly breathtaking|1 Most of the assholes who are infected are people who had the ability to travel Cough cough rich assholes|0 get a drivers licenseDoesnt that take like an entire year of lessons there|1 I think the only one I opened was from Chuys because I wanted to see if they were going to take away free queso during happy hour|1 Im helping you|1 But should not all of these get a CT where it is easy to spot|1 I love how we can print money and then realize we cant even use it to buy what we need|1 That sounds actually really cool|1 I dont really think its true that state officials are more suited to national issues But certainly acting locally will helpI truly believe that the configuration of the federal government is at fault|1 Its to protect the economy Coronavirus death rates arent going to include deaths from mental health problems and economic factors but they are no less tragic|0 Heard exactly the same thing that its not considered a major vector and persontoperson appears the most common because as much as this is new its also just a variation of things people know a lot about hence the recommendations being consistent I am not attempting to disinfect things from outside my house I am washing my hands a lot and honestly being great about not touching my face itchy nose wash hands for 20 seconds scratch nose And Im isolated|1 At their own peril|0 Youre right At least most will have democracy and free speech to rely on with the exception of the current social media censorship allegedly happening now|1 After I noticed baristas regularly handling money without gloves and directly going to make drinks without washing their handsI have no interest in buying coffee out|1 All the De Cecco is gone I still have some faith in others good tasteBarilla will work in a pinch though|1 They didnt decide There was an armistice between Italy and the Allies and according to that armistice Italy surrender without conditions and had to join the Allies|1 The 1918 Parade That Spread Death in PhiladelphiaIn six weeks 12000 were dead of influenzahttpsdailyjstororgthe1918paradethatspreaddeathinphiladelphia|0 Thats scary how will old people get food if they cant access a younger person|0 Its a two hour cad lol|1 Its so embarrassing|0 Trying to make a global pandemic a States issue wew boy I know you voted for a moron you are one too|0 Wearing mask is only one measurement in infection control Teaching the public to reduce social activities going out only when needed plays a crucial role Plus it can help reducing the use of surgical masks Education is the key here to reduce infection while using masks rationally|1 My bad was getting heated wont happen again|0 Of course its Alberta lol|1 Is that 20 billion a real number Or just a guesstimate|1 How come heroin is illegal in the US but there are thousands of addicts Im not defending China but its not like its the only place where there are laws broken|0 Talked on the phone with my dad about this situation and no joke his response was the media is just hyping this up in order to make trump look badIm like holy wtf every video I watch of scientists talking that this is serious doesnt even mention trump|0 The same experts that have advised Boris Johnson to prepare the public for their elderly loved ones dying in the next few months so that we can get through the peak infection phase faster I hope I am wrong in all of this but if I am not these people should be stripped of all credentials and not allowed in any advisory nor research roles for the rest of their lives|1 My children and I have immunodeficiency our body wont make normal antibodies and a couple of us have reactive airway issues Unfortunately it seems like we can keep ourselves safe from this illness by staying at home Fine We can all workschool at home and do that indefinitely barring any emergency dentaldoctorveterinary issue Heres the problem 4 months from now a year from now when people like you and us do go out in the future if this new virus has become just something that we put up with were going to get infected|0 No testing no cases What a great strategy|1 Neither he nor Bernie will stop them But Biden cant draw a rallie anyway how convenient|1 why are you doing this the lethality rate is literally lower than the flus|0 Every state for themselves The CDC sure doesnt have your back|1 Yes he said that but also he didnt define what younger meant I got freaked out at first but if the average age is 81 then younger might mean 5060s|0 Well technically you can bash the right as much as you wantits not equal|1 This guy is not even using proper cough etiquette smh|0 Agreed In one of our cities bus drivers are to refuse sick kids that hasnt made its way to me yet Its bullshit all the red tape|0 Lol well said American here I see it everyday|1 Our official count is just proof on how fucking sad our testing is|0 Yea one of my Japanese friends when I was over there basically said 90 of the time she wore a mask was because she didnt feel like putting makeup on that morning|1 gas stations seems like out here no one even thought about them|1 no|0 When things start to feel a little chaotic this man brings back the logic and reason not the music production software This video in particular|0 Then they make tens of millions in speaking fees after the term is over Presidents literally have zero need to ever invest any money while in office The Clintons and Obamas became exceedingly wealthy after office|1 regardless of tests or not the doctors will treat the symptoms according to their severity|1 What if you literally only have like 40 a week to spend on food Youre living paycheck to paycheck How are you supposed to spend more than that on buying bulk|1 This must mean the virus is losing strength Great news guys|1 it is way easier sending people in quarantine that show symptoms without testing them this is more a situation of containment rather than a heatlh issue we know for a fact that people spread the disease while being asymptomatic when we only test people who have symptoms we basically let everyone in that can have the virus but first shows symptoms 728 days later|1 Good|1 Well like the virus good measures might also be contagious I hope the Netherlands will follow suit|1 Its intentional The organization is trying to delayavoid paying pandemic bonds to affected countries See belowhttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41586019024159|0 I dont know Looking at this paper now and will share here httpswwwnaturecomarticless4159801938825y|1 Trauma surgeon here What about an adult version of bubble CPAP|0 Bunch of Darwin Award winners right there|1 Im talking present tense But yes at the local level it seems like a lot of medical professionals are not seeing the severity of the situation I do not consider healthcare providers epidemiological experts but realize many would so its disconcerting|1 Commandeer this shit ASAPHowever with the condition that the disposables not be thrown away just set aside and bagged individually until we can figure out how to potentially clean them Or maybe test them later|0 Sir i Dont know how is it in yours country but in Poland and many more cout ries there is a shortage of supplies in the markets and now imagine what would happen if anyone could See the severity of the Virus it would evolve into anarchy Martial Law and Military being deployed into cities just for them not Fall into the full anarchy|0 Iran already exported upwards of 80 cases within three days to nearby countries They gave ELEVEN countries their first cases including Azerbaijan Bahrain Iraq Lebanon Kuwait Oman Pakistan Im from Bahrain and we went from 0 to 38 cases within four days all coming by airplanes from Iran Thankfully they were all caught at the airport and there has been no sustained secondary transmission in the country Iran has had Shitte religious events happening for the past week and kept hiding their coronavirus infections which led to it spreading to a lot of neighboring countries Local health officials and doctors were silenced and some jailed because they were trying to blow the whistleThe situation there must be horrendous and the cover up is unreal A global denunciation and an intervention by the WHO must occur to stop this negligence and incompetence Iran is the new epicenter for coronavirus and theyre refusing to even acknowledge it|0 Thank you One things for sure my job isnt going anywhere even with the looming threat of a recession|0 Theres another doctor on facebook going viral for essentially saying Im not scared only the old and frail die Im scared of people NOT attending events with 2 million people Go ahead and spread it No worries Only thing that ever scared me in the last 20 years was SARS aka SARSCoV Hopefully someone tells this bullshit expertsellout that another name for Covid19Coronavirus is SARS 2 aka SARSCoV 2 and the only reason they dont use that name is to prevent people from panickingThe last time the news tried spinningdownplaying a virus this much 50100million people died from the Spanish Flu History about to repeat itself|0 Why are so many people who go to Egypt come back with COVID19 but Egypt reports only 48 positive there Earlier Egypt claimed 2 cases but 5 tourists immediately were diagnosed when home And even more in todays report in the US alone from Nile cruises And Egypts first death today was a tourist in country for 7 daysAre they so dependent on tourism that they are covering up As I imagine is going on in HawaiiWhat does your spidey epidemiologist sense say about this|0 I was wanting to get a complete collection of the adventures of tintin in French from the French Amazon site but then the shipping was 100 euros plus the 100 euros of the actual books|1 Yea i dont know how it works but it actually helps asthma|1 Check out this articlehttpswwwsmithsonianmagcomhistoryjournalplagueyear180965222 from the Smithsonian magazine It includes some info about the misrepresentation of the Spanish flu in the US press due to President Wilson wanting to keep morale high during WW 1 but is also about the pandemic as a whole Fascinating articleSearch for sedition and youll find the bit youre looking for|0 I agree but thats whats being suppressed People dont want to lose their jobs and they are being threatened with exactly that Look what happens to whistle blowers lately|0 Telehealth needs a website as a filter and info taker wtf|0 Thanks My personal pandemic prep triggers and triggers that sent me back out to triple my supplies included Leaked vids showing people who looked like they were going about their day carrying a grocery bag walking down the sidewalk but ended up flat on their face or back still and motionless Reading the phrase asymptomatic transmission a while back When the US started flying plane loads of people directly from China back to quarantine stations in the US Watching numerous videos showing doors being welded shut trapping the uninfected inside with the infected and the dead The leaked investigative phone conversation with a crematorium worker highly stressed and freaking out that they couldnt possibly keep up with the demand without an additional 50 or 60 employeesAnd yeah the leaked videos are horrible to see and I wont ever forget them either I feel I was deeply traumatized by some of that stuff around late Jan early Feb and thats why Ive begun to obsess over this virus Its also why Im the only person I know in real life who is not sitting around waiting on a vaccine or waiting for the government to feed me|0 About half the US population thinks every dollar spent by the government is both a waste and a crime Thats the problem assholes who think their prosperity exists in a void|0 Its a good time to get some canned stuff mix it up so you dont get bored some dried foods powdered drink mixes and so on Toilet paper definitely People are unlikely to be forcibly contained in their homes but public traffic is going to be severely controlled if youre in an outbreak area to minimize crowds that facilitate rapid infectionsBasic utilities are unlikely to be damaged during all this Water and power are likely to be quite safe this isnt an incoming hurricane|0 I asked my dad how hed feel if he gave it to my grandma and he said well she had a good lifeSeriously we dont know how to act in an emergency Im so sick of it|0 Thats in Ukraine but its happening in China and Its coming here When people cant get food from the supermarket because 12 million are sick and cant go to workthe sick will get blamed because people in the US are mouth breathers and cults will form and the purge will begin|0 Sure but tell my older bosses to close our stores and give us off I really dont want to be at work lol|1 Be the change you want to see|1 I got called a crazy when I said that America will come for Canadas water at some point But it will happen|0 Yeah Good to hear that But he just straight out calling me a liar and mentioned that all universities are closed when in fact only some of them did|1 I just went for a nose and the comments there made me laugh Literally people saying that its just a new fluThese people will be the ones fighting for a loaf of bread as soon as the first case in Bristol gets confirmed|1 Pretty stupid|0 Absolutely me too Id just rather not rely on modern conveniences if I can help it|1 That makes sense I am just realizing things out loud is all thanks though|1 Filtration efficiency of different materialshttpswwwresearchgatenetfigureFiltrationEfficiencyandPressureDropAcrossMaterialsTestedwithAerosolsofBacillustbl1258525804|1 So will they test antibodies of ppl who had these symptoms and were told no flu just a weird virus This was going around california in Januarya 23 week long cough lung thing|0 Youre just kidding yourself You may not have touched your face consciously|1 Cant risk profits over the safety of our workers We all have to come into work just to make sure someone at the top keeps making a massive amount of money|1 Didnt China just seize the surgical mask factories near Wuhan in an attempt to control costs of the product why would they not simply seize the patent for this drug when it seems much more relevant to the current emergency|0 I hope karma comes knocking on your door Boris you moron|0 I meant travel between states not on the interstate lol Commerce and such should continue but leisure travel from state to state will make this a lot worse and harder to track|0 What a dumbass Shes what 80 Fine Increase the chances of Congressional exposure and infection Not like other parliaments have sick members right We need a winnowing of all US leadership|0 USA is going big to stop this in its tracksUK is twiddling its thumbs Come on Boris do something|0 They arent saying kids cant get it That is false Kids generally dont seem to have a hard time with it But there isnt enough information out of any country to know for sure what is true|1 benfleetIs it definitely Benfleet Was it a teacher Thats 30 mins away from me Im very close to removing my kids from school I wonder what the legal ramifications are home schooling children during a pandemic emergency|1 Imagine being this dumb|0 Native Nashvillian here Wonder what would be wrong with someone having a tailgate in a public parking area Sell beer and brats out there with your mask on|0 Fuck Fox So what|0 Its definitely true that it wont stop asymptomatic spreading however I think that the governments assumption is that a smaller fraction of the spreading is being done asymptomatically and that cutting down on symptomatic spreading would have the far larger effect|1 Thank you sir this just made my day lol|1 Thank you Ill be going out in style later this week|0 Yeah she actually says she personally wouldnt travel abroad for at least a year as things stand|1 most of the population in the west is also naive heck look at tokyo the government even went so far as to suggest people avoid crowds good luck getting a spot in the train system though Look at singapore even people arefraid of virus said they will attend group eventsThe likelyhood of it spreading if there is native transmission and no measures are taken as we have currently in the west is high|1 Not likely although its not impossible MN is home to the Mayo clinic which just developed and rolled out its own rapid PCR coronavirus test Dr Michael Osterholm is a world renowned expert and has been based at the U of M working on the subject of epidemiology and infectious disease for close to two decades The MN Dept of Public Health is relatively competent and relatively wellfunded for a government agency Their website has tracked an accelerated rate of testing and confirmed cases over the past few days httpswwwhealthstatemnusdiseasescoronavirussituationhtml 3M and Medtronic are based here Our governor seems appropriately concerned MN seems to be somewhat better prepared though not safe by any means than many other places|1 were already at the plateau of the sigmoid curve you guys are too late with the graphs and the outrage|0 Police suspect without proof already so that wont change|0 The advice from Dr John one of his older videos was to only take paracetamol when temps start to get dangerously high To bring down your temperature The fever and high temp are your bodys way of fighting the virus and are a good thing Otherwise you risk extending your sickness and allow the virus to spread more|0 Yeah I got banned from the bucks sub for begging them not to do the meetup and then callong them out for deleting comments asking them not to People are so desperate to pretend its business as usual when tbis situation is literally unprecedented|0 And I can proudly wear it at work|1 I feel sick just watching that|0 Because when people see other people wearing masks they panic Masks are a visible representation of the virus|0 Only if it mutates and then you can catch it againBut it looks like its very stable in humas and has a low chance of mutation in humansLook at this like the fluthe flu mutates every year so that is why you have to get vaxed every year for the flu because past vaccinations dont work on it anymorei personaly am more scared of the flu now because just in my small country of 4 mil There has been upwards of 30 000 casses of the flu and it has a good month untill it goes away so for now i am more scared of the flu but still how Dr mike said ALERT NOT ANXIOUS|1 Thank you The behind the scenes work to try and provide the community with the best user experience accurate information and quality content like AMAs trackers etc is a big effort but everyone on the mod team is happy to do it|1 Yep These days they are LITERALLY reporting how easy to catch a thief at large who moved from trains to trains TRAINS for gods sake because of all the surveillence cameras everywhere|1 At this time very little is known about COVID19 particularly related to its effect on pregnant women and infantsnewborns There are two sources that we look at for this and were all still making best informed guesses right now Keep in mind we have limited data sets here to make decisions off of However this question really is three separate questions that well answer separately1 Are pregnant women at higher risk for severe diseaseWe look at The JAMA report from the 72000 cases in Wuhan china As opposed to Influenza AH1N1pdm09 pregnant women do not appear to be at higher risk of severe disease In an investigation of 147 pregnant women 64 confirmed 82 suspected and 1 asymptomatic 8 had severe disease and 1 were criticalHowever ACOG American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists looked at limited data from previous viruses like SARS and MERS and COVID19 is often thought of as SARS2 Based on this they may be a higher risk Additionally there is some data that suggests that there may have been cases of preterm birth in women in China who were infected with COVID19 TLDR Right now we just dont know how bad the risk is so your friend should take or not take whatever action makes her feel more comfortable As you can see its a bit contradictory2 Should I breastfeedACOG recommends against breastfeeding as the concern is for respiratory droplet transmission during feeding There has been no evidence to date yet showing transmission of virus in breastmilk There have been a small number of cases in china where infants were found to test positive for the virus shortly after birth but it is unknown if this was from transplacental droplet or breast milk transmission TLDR Keep away from breastfeeding not because of the milk but because you would cough and sneeze on your baby3 Will this affect my babyIf we use old models like radiation fetuses tend to be most susceptible to issues in the first trimester but by the third trimester since theyre mostly fully formed its probably safe The highest infection rate in fetuses is in the first trimester for viruses and were thinking about it in those terms until better evidence proves or disproves us At this point there is just no way to knowOverall TLDR Its probably safe we think The only way to know is once we start taking care of more children with COVID19 so that we can track how they were infected Dont breastfeed if youre sick|1 Great news that they were supportive of your decision Thanks for sharing|1 You know what if you arent actually practicing in your field actively you shouldnt be able to call yourself a Dr on TV It takes away from actual experts and misrepresents the entertainment news personality for whom they actually are|1 Her fans dont understand Quarantine speak Sadly this will have a bigger impact then someone from the CDC explaining things|0 Well the first problem is youre watching CNN|0 Im due to give birth anytime 25 weeks from now Im terrified Im grateful the hospital has boundaries in place but Im only allowed my fiance the whole time Im there and have no idea what this will all look like then its probably going to be around the time its peaking Im scared of the hospital being overwhelmed and them being so low on resources if god forbid something goes wrong|0 The last time Apple blamed China was in early 2019 and their stock doubled Look it up|0 Lower on that blog it mentions the F5 building Not exactly sure what was closed though Lack of information is often to prevent panic response What you dont know wont kill you My sister is in Eastern Washington and had no idea what Coronavirus is Hrrm|0 Yes Im happy they listened to community calls about doing this announcement finally Took a long time though Im spamming them since february 10|1 Im sorry it is so close to you Hang in there friend Hope you and yours are doing okay Thanks for the additional clarification It was a little confusing at first with the two counties I hope you didnt think I was contradicting you Just the opposite I was supporting your statement with reputable news source in case someone disbelieved youAnyway best wishes and take care as best you can|1 Death rate is calculated using deathscleared cases not deathsinfected So no that wasnt true|0 Youre lucky my brothers a doctor and hes got major I have an MD energy about all this My mother is halfway listening to me|1 Good for you for updating your world view This has not been my experience in so far trying to get my parents and inlaws to update theirs in the face of the threat|0 Not that it makes any significant difference but I appreciate your openness to evidence I hope I will concede the next time|1 Jesus good luck getting people to place booking for your busses after those lot have been on them|1 Group messages of people asking for advice to navigate through the filing processA lot of us also work at multiple restaurantsbars One of our owners personally recommended that everyone file and sent information regarding it so weve been working through it as a big group|1 This is the thread where all the Tory hating should be Imagine at a time like this pledging to help landlords and not even bothering to mention the poor fucking pleb renters who wont be able to earn a living They need to immediately announce either a ban on evictions or sending money to people who cant work theres no excuse for ignoring that people have bills when youre stressing the need for social isolation and are in the process of shutting down half the jobs in the country|0 Hell yeah |0 Its pretty rude to shit on a religion you dont agree with Everyone has their right to believe in their own God and you should be respectful to that An affront to a mans religion is an affront to the man himself Im agnostic myself but I also have respect for others beliefs Its just the human thing to do|1 Check out the local gas stationsconvenient store CVS Walgreens carry food too Call momauntgrandma tell them you need something for that crusty ass Care package time |0 Seems like hes just trying to ease peoples panic before the federal gov announces a countrywide lockdown He knows exactly whats coming|1 Look all you people bashing on Germany dont forget that in the US theres no way to even test because CDC hasnt released the test kits because they havent been approved by FDA|0 As a working person and also a student Im not that happy as children but hey they are children so let them have their fun But at homePS a jsou deka v pohod A ty taky samozejm|1 I wouldnt be wasting large amounts of food stock on one great meal a day No idea how long a quarantine could be Its been weeks in most Eastern countries Rationing from day one is a must This is how you end up hungry three weeks in with nothing left and going to a store with nothing but empty shelves and corona not the tasty kind|0 They kept saying Italy is 2 weeks ahead of us Italy went through 4 Phases and is about to enter a 5th phase hopefully following ChinaUS was at Phase 1 of where Italy was and is about to hit Phase 2 At Phase 3 the most affected cities will likely shut down give or take 12 weeks Hopefully not These are just predictions by experts based on how prepared US was and testing capabilitiesSo maybe in a week and a half well start to see the most densely affected regions in US start shutting down Like places in NY and NJ Cali New Orleans etc|1 I just read the news article today and was worried it was a bad sign that largescale outbreak is coming to Canada soon I hope Im wrong|0 I have actually participated in that post and responded to their call by creating rCoronaEU but theyve been silent ever since|1 httpswwwsciencefocuscomnewscoronaviruscanhandwashingreallystopthespreadofcovid19Soap disrupts the lipid envelope of coronaviruses and does kill them|0 Yeah I wonder could it be as simple as assigning them to other patientsdepartments freeing up the regular doctors to tend to the covid patients Im also curious what the infection rate among doctors who treat covid patients is|1 Too bad coronavirus didnt start a few months sooner or Bernie wouldve won|1 Look at how the deaths bar is being squashed relative to SARS and MERShttpsncovio The deaths are definitely being covered up and afterward were gonna have apologists clamoring Look it only had blah blah percent fatalities its no worse than the flu China did a great job stopping it and didnt allow it to spiral out of control at allAnother interesting thing about that graph is how there were the same number of new cases each report period until today when there were 4x the increase as it has been all week Yeah nothing fucky there|0 These numbers are misleading Why is Bahrain there when UAE already has 75 transmissions|0 You dont get to just tell people that evidence exists then attempt to provide zero substance to your claim Thats how baseless shit slinging starts|0 There are lots of problem within the central government as well Top down system is very susceptible to Chinese whispers By the time the message reached the top the head secretary is going to get a very different message than the one thats actually sent Likewise when his own messages reach the local government its going to be very different from the ones he issuedFrom my understanding Xi actually said based on the information he was given to keep the festivities running This goes to show that somewhere in the chain of command something went wrongI personally do not believe anything will change in China You gotta remember this is not the first outbreak they have but they responded about the same and nothings really changed In fact Xi imposed even stricter censorship on 13 so the problem is more likely to continue|0 Its always been H1N1 in my country even the last time they stopped calling it The swine flu pretty fast|0 Exactly Nobody is actually listen to what they are sayingWe are saying we are in this for at least 20 weeks from now maybe moreWe cant lock down that long and people will break it at exactly the wrong timeThe only solution is a rock solid lockdown around the worst times which people then keep due to fear and because they havent already been locked down for 2 monthsThe peak of this is still 1014 weeks away in the Uk and the window extends at least 4 weeks either side of that where 50 of cases will occur We need an 8 week lockdown but one that starts in another 46 weeks time depending on infection growth rateThis shit is here until August at least and nobody will be able to survive on self isolation from now until then We will see at the end of all of this but in all likeyhood France and everyone have jumped the gun early and will likely have more total cases and deaths as a result|0 your dad and all his workmates are utter legendsi hope they get the recognition they deserve when this is all overtell him thanks|1 My boss 63yo just told me 28yo that the media is blowing this out of proportion and all is well He believes this is nothing because the numbers arent as high as the seasonal flu Weve only tested a few thousand mate We have a long way to go if there are already infected patients in remote areas like Nebraska|0 Yes thats usually the scenario for good judgement|1 hesyourpresident Vote him out of officelmao he won the election fair and square in 2016 and will again in November Be ready for 4 more years crybaby snowflake Hahaha|1 I would also like to know this|1 Eh It said they worked out an agree ent with the Chinese government|1 This whole thing has made me realize how connected we all are If its bad for fellow man its some how from a distance going to affect me in a way I have a small business thats barely making anything right now We my family and 2 employees rely on our income for everything The accounts that are supposed to pay me arent paying so I cant pay my accounts and those relying on my payments cant pay theirs Its a cycle and were all in this together|0 Stupid on many levels|0 How can the hospital say that she died of the flu if she had a negative test Arent there records showing the results Also sorry for your loss thats terrible|0 is that meaning if you are lucky you can catch it live through it and not even notice it but pass it to others or it means these people health is expect do decay in the next days even if they now show no symptoms|0 It will pass Senate just dont be surprised it becomes something completely different after that|0 My job has already started laying off people Im just trying to keep my head down and hope I dont get fired before we go into quarantine so I qualify for PTO|1 Yes of course it was Our elected representatives have every intention of siphoning every cent they can to business rather than people if at all possible|1 Are you sure youre a doctorhttpsxkcdcom938|1 You should read the whole article Stop pointing fingers and actually use your headParts come from China making it very difficult to expand operations Also they dont need to be asked This isnt a communist country They dont need a central authority to dictate what they do If they have the capability and resources they could ramp it up on their ownYou should stop with the clickbaiting It is uncalled for in this sub|0 A closeted Andrew Yang fan perhaps|1 Credit goes to murtaman on twitter|1 Then I am crazy too|0 and please stop pasting the same news 1000 times please Currently more than half of the posts are the same info again and again Just take a look at the first page before doing what you are about to do Thanks|1 I feel ya I was crying and in complete prep mode in January when I joined this sub of 30k My friends and family made so much fun of me I bought items when there was still plenty on the shelves No one believed me it would get here and spread It was a China thing I bought stuff for my parents so they would have stock yes that included TP and Gatorade when the time came My mother thought I was nuts Then I bookmarked a counter of confirmed cases and deaths It stayed at the same count from when I bookmarked it 14566 cases 305 deaths world wide Im a total mess I felt like chicken little I watched Contagion for the first time January 11th I was scared we the world wasnt doing enough Im so broken mentally I am breaking out in hives I WANTED TO BE WRONG|0 Guess what They are complying now They think its going to only be a 2 week closure Thats very optimistic of them|1 Anecdotally the young have also been admitted to ICUs or even placed on ECMO The young tend to have more physiological reserve to overcome critical illness but they have also fallen critically ill|0 Walmart also supports a 15 an hour minimum wage They had the math guys crunch the numbers and figured out all the customers making 15 an hour will spend enough so they can profit after having to pay their employees 15 an hour The problem is that it requires everyone to have at least 15 an hour for it to work Its like taking Reagans supply side laugher curve which we know doesnt work and switch the supply with the demand axis and the math works out|1 THERE IS HOPE|1 It takes far far longer to get declared recovered than die|0 There are two major things happening1 Africa has less testing capability and low state capacity No one is sure that much of subSaharan Africa will catch this before its very widespread Egypt has one of the highest capacity states in the region and theyre wildly lying about how widespread it is there2 Africa is young The median American is 38 The median Japanese person is 47 The median Chinese person is 38The median Kenyan is 18 The median Ugandan is 16 The median Egyptian is 25Source am political science PhD student focusing on subSaharan Africa|0 If they had been honest with people from the beginning it wouldnt have caused a panic all of a sudden|1 I had a panic attack last week Probably the second one Ive ever had in my whole life|0 There was one video I saw from Medcram talking about the MuLBSTA score Its one way to try to analyze how different combinations can increase risk of severity Im not sure if it is accurate for this disease and whether there is a better version but I think it illustrates how you might assess prognostic risk to a disease httpsyoutubegPwfiQgGsFo|0 wow almost like I said citizen and she isnt a citizen|1 They are striking because they want to protect lives of average citizens What the government is doing now is ineffective and it is refusing to budge or improve even though so many people are advising it toBesides collateral damage is not an excuse not to strike Following this logic nobody could strike if it is unethical to affect anyone else|0 Ive seen people unironically arguing that Iran has a better system which No they dont|0 The best way is trying to stay home no matter what age I dont think young people should just go about their lives and pretend this isnt serious|1 Thats not hate thats logic Were dealing with a virus If it were to have broken out in India we would be avoiding people from India bc we dont want the virus Its not a personal affront to anyones race Viceversa if I came from an area that had it and my looks identified me with that area I would expect people to be scared of catching it from me|0 some other studies said 2025 of cases need hospitalization which is where this number come from The study was posted here early last week if i remmeber correctly|1 Most of this stuff is not made in the US anymore There is no way to stock up when the country that makes them is using them|0 Even during the most important chinese new year their mind is still obsessed with making money as manifested by the most favorite greeting going si fa chai|1 Do not go to the emergency room right now with everything going on You dont need to be locked up cause youre feeling down you just need to monitor your feelings and concentrate on prepping for your family and making your girlfriend happy from overseasIf you need depression meds get it now while you can|0 What if you added taller lips to the edges so its like a bowl and fill it with hand sanitizer|1 The private sector is the problem I work for the private sector multi billion dollar company and my company has not asked us to WFH either despite me being able to do all my work from home They even sent us an email saying that we should use our vacation days or EI if we want to quarantine or self isolate Fuck the private sector and all the asshole employers|0 Im kinda in the same boat I know personally that there are discussions happening behind the scenes which are contrary to the public face that corporatepublic communications are putting out there From a government standpoint we can prep all we want but if this thing breaks containment then its crisis management not find a solution I dont know how many people get this The horse is out of the barn on this one and a lot of people are preoccupied with arguing about whether we should latch the door|0 How long does it have to be exposed to the light to be neutralised I couldnt find the Answer also wouldnt it kill good bacteria on our skin kind of like external chemo Not sure if that would be a problem|0 I dont get it Clinically diagnosed dead wasnt reported yesterday 242135 is ratio of todays total deaths to clinically diagnosed deaths 13596 is the ratio of todays clinical deaths to confirmed deaths which is totally different Those arent even comparable ratios What are you trying to show|0 We are getting new data from Italy so those original guidelines are changing To stay inside whenever you can is the best advice|1 Thank you Ive been checking multiple sites and cringing at how the numbers vary radically The most accurate Nationwide numbers Ive found may wind up stuck behind a pay wall and none of the sites function as clean on a mobile device as yours does Well done Its a shame that a private citizen put this together on his own and our government cannot seem to do half as well which vastly more significant resources|1 I am able to and am right now I work in the administrative side of my job so I am able to do all my work online However we have branches where people are not able to and the plan is if any of them get sick us office workers will be called to cover the branches This seems like an insane idea theyre getting sick so now its your turn as opposed to just shutting down completely but what do I know|0 It sounds like you think something will change coronawise in 2 weeks In 2 weeks its going to be worse than now|0 What si that Corticosteroids Are we supposed to have cough syrup Can I have some DayQuill Or nothing at all otherwise Ill make it worse Its incredible the lack of guidelines available to regular people Usually if I get a cough I treat it with over the counter medicine Is this still ok|0 Yeah Im not doing that Just have some volunteer|1 My sincerest apologies|1 I thought I loathed them I was wrong So much respect for them|0 She took the bus home from Landvetter to Jnkping She met a shit load of people Give it a week and the shit will hit the fan|0 GoodIve had enough to bullshiters on Social Media and Youtube I am all for Youtube and content creators but people like this are scum and deserve what they get Providing he is pretending which i expect he is unlikely to risk his life for a few views|1 Do you understand how relative values work Switzerland has a population of only 8 million and China has a population of 1386 billion So Switzerland actually has way better healthcare|1 Throw in spitting and snotting Gastroenteritis has been noted in several studies just not yet explored further A gastric infection could easily bring a negative oral swab test while already shedding with every burp and rip Until the infection makes its way to the respiratory tract Me thinks our GI tract can take a lot more abuse then our lungs|0 haha are you referring to that post yesterday with the Indian doctors with their herbal cure for dengue and chikungunya|1 Remember Iran is mountainous Its actually pretty cold in winter along with Afghanistan which regularly gets enough snow for avalanchesThe current temperature in Tehran is 13C dropping to 6C overnight Not so different from our current conditions|1 Thank you I wanted to prepare but couldnt afford to We have been out of masks in my town for a month OP is being a smug asshole|1 I mean do you think that it could spread in the entire world like the H1N1 in 2009 Of course nobody can predict that but are you optimistic Thank you again for your time|1 Amazon is turning into alibaba|1 This I have tried having this argument with friends Im in the service industry so Im out of luck starting tomorrow And Houston is not waiving rent or child support Honestly getting more worried and depressed every day Losing everything I think after about 2 weeks lockdown people will start rioting Calling it now Many more lost|0 So working for 2040 years and paying taxes is draining society Tf is wrong with you|0 Are you capable of engaging in conversation without jumping to personal insults as your starting point Get civil and Ill respond Otherwise go away|0 Ive not had a voice in 4 days coughing started yesterday not sure about fever bc no thermometer and taking Tylenol fever reducer for my aches I flew to DC last weekend and was all around the city I live in a small town and work with kids so havent gone to work I wonder how long I need to self quarantine I know they wont test me so didnt bother going to Dr Besides walking my dog in my small neighborhood I havent left the house in 5 days|0 CDC are saying masks dont help on purpose to prevent hoarding and price gauging I guess|0 You are blunt but alas correct friend|1 As a phlebotomist and fellow lab rat at the hospital thank you for thinking of us as well|1 Why would a billionaire love the idea of depopulation If were going with the theyre super greedy line of thinking why would they want less of the masses to exploitIts not like competition for scarce resources is a reality for them|1 Seriously I thought about that and I put some micropore tape in the bag with my limited supply of masks Masks can also be sprayed with 91 isopropyl alcohol if youre in a tight spot and cant get a new one|0 Helping average citizen will be called socialism in some North American country But bailing out big banks Thats a human right|1 And Americans are then blaming Trump Some even want to call it the Trump Virus Like give me a break|0 Your comment has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or postsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Can confirm I have anxiety and get those symptoms a lot when its really bad I got pleurisy somehow last year so now Im even more careful with using humidifiers and keeping my nasal passages clear So it might pay off for me with this stuff going on|0 Its good to see the world band together Stay safe|1 If not we need a reddit friend to make one please helloplz|1 Can someone give me a chart of the worst possible scenario I mean even if just a few countrys flaten the curveWhat about the rest|0 I had to feed my next door neighbors after the last hurricane here I suppose I will have to do it again They hardly keep any food in their home I doubt they are stockpiling at all for this virus Since there are only two of them I can help them out if need be|1 This Im also a Hong Konger and most of us lived through the SARS epidemic I think thats the right word in 2003 where there was moderately large local transmission As a result our hygiene awareness is higher than average please please make sure youre hygienic If you take off a mask and will put it in later put it in an envelopeplastic bag Dont touch your face avoid touching rails and other public things and if you receive change from a taxi driver thats been coughing put it away for 14 days Also China can go fuck itselfEdit fuck the CCP Fuck the government not the people|0 White privilege|1 and dont forget to smile|0 Thanks thats actually pretty useful information|1 Your user name alone tells me as much about what you have to say as what you actually said|0 I was actually surprised that private individuals are allowed to buy an Oxygen tank online|1 Double edged sword if hes totally fine watch as everyone says who cares just the flu bro even harder|1 I could not agree moreI stayed home from work yesterday and in my callout voice mail I made sure to mention to the gossipy secretary that every single one of us that stays at home today and in the coming weeks is one less vector for this thing to spread through in the hope that it might encourage her and others to take a stand and use personal time to leave now before its too latex200BShe was still in today I emailed my boss that Ill be home for the rest of the week and I will do whatever it takes for me and my coworkers to work from home That I hope that Im overreacting to this but we cant undo what weve done if going into work spreads itx200BTake care and keep supporting the cause|1 Im really starting to wonder whether these are signs of extremely long incubations or really high true asymptomatic numbers|1 granparentsLivesMatterEdit Guess the hashtag symbol turns your post bold Learn something new everyday|1 httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS1473309915701246Always a pleasure to counter ignorance with facts|1 You mean a paywall which there are ways aroundADDIS ABABA Ethiopia As the 9 am flight from Dubai arrived at the international airport in Ethiopias capital on Wednesday four government health specialists in face masks and protective glasses worked their way to the line of incoming passengers to check their passportsThe health specialists found what they were looking for two passengers who had just returned from China and pulled them aside to check their temperatures to see if they might have been infected by the coronavirusThe two passengers had normal temperatures so were allowed to continue on their way a government policy that does not account for an incubation period that is up to 14 daysAs the coronavirus wreaks havoc in China and has spread to countries around the world experts are increasingly concerned that Africa is particularly vulnerableThe continents health system is already fragile It has few facilities even to test for the virus Its doctors are already straining to contain deadly outbreaks of other diseases like malaria measles and EbolaAnd on top of that Africa has large numbers of Chinese workers many now returning to the continent after visits to China for the Lunar New Year Meanwhile some of the 81000 African students who have been studying in China are now heading home But while more and more countries tighten their controls over travel with China Ethiopia has kept the door open and the planes flyingIf the coronavirus hits Africa said Dr John Nkengasong director of Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Addis Ababa it will be massiveThere have been 32 suspected cases of coronavirus in Africa but none tested positive for the virus according to the Africa CDC But until this week only two countries on the continent South Africa and Senegal had laboratories capable of testing for the coronavirusMost hospitals on the continent other than large ones in capitals or regional seats do not have the intensive care units that patients diagnosed with the coronavirus might require experts sayIf this happens in Africa it will be a huge struggle because the health services are quite overstretched dealing with ongoing diseases like malaria and measles and the current Ebola outbreak said Michel Yao the World Health Organizations Emergency Operations Program Manager for AfricaAfrica was largely spared in 2002 and 2003 when the SARS virus which also originated in China spread around the world killing nearly 800 people and infecting more than 8000 mostly in China and Hong Kong Africa reported only one case in South AfricaBut the risk is far greater now experts say China and Africa have become intertwined in the last two decades as China has expanded its political economic and military ties to Africa funding large infrastructure projects and pledging tens of billions of dollars in investments and loansChinese citizens have flocked to Africa working in industries ranging from manufacturing and technology to health care and construction Estimates of how many Chinese are now living in Africa range from about 200000 to as many as two millionAir travel between China and Africa has increased exponentially in the last decade alone from one flight a day to an average of eight direct flightsEthiopian Airlines Africas biggest and most profitable carrier is the main gateway between China and Africa shuttling up to 1500 passengers each day between Addis Ababa and China on dozens of weekly flights The airline has a center in the Addis Ababa airport to help Chinese travelers easily process their visas to dozens of African states The Ethiopian airport itself was built in part with funding from ChinaThe Ethiopian carrier has continued operating its China routes while many other international airlines including African carriers like Kenya Airways Egypt Air and Moroccos Royal Air have suspended flights to ChinaThe Ethiopian airline and government have now come under criticism in the midst of the coronavirus outbreak over speculation that China pressured the Ethiopian government not to halt the flightsThe office of the prime minister and Ethiopian Airlines both declined to comment referring questions to the Ethiopian Public Health Institute which is dealing with Ethiopias response to the coronavirusLia Tadesse Ethiopias state minister of health said the decision to continue flights to China came not from her ministry but from a higher government level But she denied there was any pressure from ChinaYet travelers between China and Africa can also arrive through hubs in other continents providing further pathways for the virusSo African countries and global health organizations are now scrambling to ramp up the capacity to cope with the epidemicEthiopia has built isolation units at the airport in Addis Ababa and designated specific intensive care units in hospitals said Ms Tadesse Ethiopias health ministerThe WHO said this week that four more countries Ghana Madagascar Nigeria and Sierra Leone can now conduct the tests Ethiopia says it will have testing capabilities by the end of the week But many other African countries will still have to send test kits elsewhere delaying any responseUnfortunately many disease surveillance systems throughout African countries are weak and most of the continent lacks diagnostic capability said Dr Ngozi Erondu associate fellow in the Global Health Program at Chatham House an international affairs research group in London Identifying most cases and controlling the outbreak could be difficult especially in the poorest and most resourceconstrained countriesThe World Health Organization is stepping up aid to 13 African countries that have direct links or a high volume of travel to China working to improve early detection of cases and speed samples to labs that can do the tests The agency has said it will need 675 million through April primarily to assist poor countries in Africa and Asia with weak public health systems The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on Wednesday committed 100 million to fight the virus partly for atrisk populations in AfricaWith no cases yet confirmed in Africa itself many Africans have focused their concern on the students who are living in China and may have been exposedAbout 4600 African students and citizens live in the epidemics center Hubei province whose capital Wuhan is where the coronavirus first emerged according to Development Reimagined a consulting organization with headquarters in BeijingIn all more than 81000 Africans were studying in mainland China in 2018 lured by generous scholarships affordable tuition and the hope of becoming a bridge connecting their nations and an ascendant ChinaThe first African to be diagnosed with coronavirus is a 21yearold Cameroonian student studying at Yangtze University in Hubei provinceThe lockdown in Wuhan is taking a toll on students like Abdikadir Mohamed a 23yearold from Somalia who has been studying petroleum engineering at the China University of Geosciences in WuhanMr Mohamed who the Somali government said is one of 50 Somalis living in Wuhan said that for nearly 20 hours a day he doesnt leave his onebedroom apartmentThe experience is like being stuck in a bad dream he said in a telephone call on TuesdayWhile other African countries including Morocco Mauritius and Egypt have evacuated their citizens from China Mr Mohamed said that the Somali students pleas to their government to evacuate them have been futileOur families are worried Mr Mohamed said They are calling us every minute If you dont pick the phone at once they panic|0 Land rovers are trash Enjoy the quality Indian automobile|1 Trump Its always ABOUT the low numbers you can sick die in the ship I dont care|0 Was just rereading the gov plans Delay phase on pg18Action that would be considered could include population distancing strategies such as school closures encouraging greater home working reducing the number of large scale gatherings to slow the spread of the disease throughout the population whilst ensuring the countrys ability to continue to run as normally as possible The UK governments education departments planning assumptions include the possibility of having to close educational settings in order to reduce the spread of infection|1 Then shamed again when you say no|0 Otto getting a mouth full of flu vomit makes me laugh lol|1 Most likely the same way be beat the 1918 flu|0 Houston Strong|1 You realise chloroquine phosphate has been approved for human use for a long time already|1 Where i live in winter months i arrive at work before sunrise and leave after sundown Sometimes i go a month without sunlight I actually get depression in spring when sun returns People react very differently to D defficiency|0 Metallurgy in preColumbian AmericaMetallurgy in preColumbian America is the extraction purification and alloying of metals and metal crafting by Indigenous peoples of the Americas prior to European contact in the late 15th century Indigenous Americans have been using native metals from ancient times with recent finds of gold artifacts in the Andean region dated to 21551936 BCE and North American copper finds dated to approximately 5000 BCE The metal would have been found in nature without need for smelting techniques and shaped into the desired form using heat and cold hammering techniques without chemically altering it by alloying it To date no one has found evidence that points to the use of melting smelting and casting in prehistoric eastern North America In South America the case is quite different Indigenous South Americans had full metallurgy with smelting and various metals being purposely alloyed PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 I know my German shepherd has pooped inside when it rainslet me tell you how unpleasant t that is Its very unpleasant Ugh|0 Who would allow their kids to go back No cleaning will do anything its already spread and many dont even know they have it|0 Lol its just a silly comment No need to get offended|0 Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist Everything we do after will seem inadequateMichael LeavittToo bad were already in a pandemic|0 China is checking citizens daily for fever If you have one youre required to visit a flu clinic to undergo a series of tests Until the clinic makes a determination you are required to stay in quarantine No visits from familyThese measures will never work in Western democracies so well continue to infect our families|1 In order to get a clear understanding of the growth of the outbreak several unanswered questions need to be addressed before we can make better judgements on whats happeningHow many tests were conducted What percentage came back as positive How many suspected cases were not tested and why supply of test kits too low no access to the patient medical personnel cant handle the workload etc|1 Viruses dont benefit from killing all their hosts They benefit from keeping us alive and spreading it to each other If we had been prepared we could have stemmed the tide here much earlier We are not helpless flesh sacks waiting to die|1 I mean yes its a bad thing and of course its disgusting but your comment is quite hypocritical You are generalizing a whole generation as being horrible people who are generalizing a whole race It isnt much different in fact the slurs and hateful remarks that you are talking about are the same as you use in your own comment|0 if you are willing to dispose your ski mask daily of course we need something disposableAnd also ski mask only fulfill one function which is prevent you from touching it the 3 mainstream function of mask is 1 prevent you from touching your face 2 prevent you from infecting other maybe you are asymptomatic 3 and prevent droplet from hitting you directly Ski mask cannot do the 2 others|1 Im as Tory as they come but the soy boy shit is so stupid soys not good for you but it doesnt make you effeminate|0 Milky mike pence who I never liked and hardly knew|0 23rds of the usa economy is dependent on consumption the more the better they dont give two shits about what consumers actually want only what they can get us to buy so the fatter we get and the more we waste the better|1 He has a doctorate my dudeHe has a video about his life somewhere trust me the dude is very trustworthy he criticizes misinformation all the time|1 its impossible that Turkey doesnt have cases everywhere they didnt stop Iranian travel until recently|1 Indoctrination yay|1 Im fed up of people saying its bloody flu The who have a lot to answer for People dont bother looking for info unless its hand fed to them by the press or government They have no clue what actually drs say about this If this was a zombie apocalypse those people would be gone by now lol Anyway the real issue is that there is not enough evidence on the cases Where is this info Honestly right now its could be less dangerous than we think or more dangerous but we dont have that info I want every case data released age ethnicity country gender underlying health conditions smoker and what happened to them I want to see every single one with my own eyesI personally dont feel there has been enough evidence put out on it still 4 months in now seeing as the 1st patient was December So honestly Im not sure whether to be a little more relaxed or be in full panic hibernate for a few years mode lol If u have that info please link me up|1 Some of us bought masks goggles gloves sanitizer spray bottles and alcohol 2 months ago when it was clear by Chinas reaction that this wasnt the flu Yes googles are a necessary companion for the masks|1 While I agree with M4A it would only help in alleviating the economic crisis The real danger is overloading the Healthcare System We only have around 930000 hospital beds and are at around 67 occupancy right nowThat leaves us with roughly 310000 beds available approximately 11000 or 01 of the total population We need to help slow the rate of infection which requires social distancing and a massive loss of employment|0 This is the best thing that can happen right now lets do everything we can TOGETHER to fight this virus|1 Yes actually Im sure even the most wealthy and even the most celebrated people have a much much better chance of getting tested for Coronavirus just about anywhere other than the United States|1 I drive past here everydayplease be free please be free|1 He and many of his rivals are in a vulnerable age group theres no telling how this will shakeup elections|0 Yes it is Blame China but blame your gov too|0 My sister works in Event Sales and got the Well call you when we have work since they shut down the whole hotel for the next 2 months If things dont get better by then theres going to be a lot of permanent layoffs since right now everyone is trying to wait this out for the next 3060 days and see where things head|0 back then nobody had internet so it couldnt be helpedtoday people are just willfully ignorant so im ok buying their properties after they die|0 Well they can guarantee a personal Dr bed and ventilator Guarantee they all have two of them under lock and key on their properties or squirreled away ready and waiting for them in a private ward Or at least they think as much|1 Unless youre poor like most Americans and cant afford the vaccine Or you dont have insurance and you are bankrupted by your ICU stay Or you have a solid job and good insurance and your job terminates your employment because you were sick and in the hospital too long you lose your insurance and you end up bankrupt anyway even though you had all your ducks in a row Im a nurse I see this kind of stuff go down all the time Most Americans lose everything when they become seriously ill If this does turn into a pandemic the cracks in our system are about to be blown apart Well watch millions of Americans die for lack of access to healthcare and millions more left destitute but at least the billionaires will get richer At least weve got that going for us|0 Thats fine but bonuses is one of those words that can mean a lot of things and a lot of the meanings arent what you think Some people including ones who arent particularly wealthy depend on variable compensation and have met the agreed upon goals to earn their bonus Also when companies get emergency relief money what the company truly needs is to give that money to guarantee certain critical employees dont leave|1 Thank you This is exactly the information I was looking for|1 The fact she works in the medical field and has this mindset is terrifying|0 For sure Ive been WFH so lucky I can do that and no going to the storeshopping online shopping only Pretty much getting cabin fever but its better than spreading Corona|1 They will definitely get a clue soon|1 Exactly And what counts as underlying health conditions For example my Dad had a heart attack 19 years ago He changed his diet and hes been taking medication ever since and has had no further heart problems But would that history of having had a heart attack be considered underlying health conditions Would that be something that would increase his risk or be used to play down the seriousness of the virus|0 Later when Americans have lost loved ones to this greed well have actual people to blameWe should keep a running list of the profiteers dont just blame the petty hoarders no ones going to die because of that mother fucker with a garage full of sanitizer This company is willing to kill people for profitWhen this quarantines over might be time for pitchforks|0 We might find how true that is soon|1 Is it okay to insult a politician when they did something objectively insultworthy that had something directly to do with the coronavirus|0 Yes doesnt cover all strains tho|1 No rich people|1 USA has tested 477 Onlyand Canada doesnt even have those numbers because they only test those coming directly from Hubei province or who have been in direct contact with someone who was positive with COVID19 Governments are failing globally as is th WHO|1 As a south Florida residentYeay sMy daughter is trippin over possibly missing Rolling Loud in Miami in early May but considering theyve already cancelled ULTRA Id be pretty shocked if they dont continue to cancel large festivals|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Hope youre OK and keeping positive The world is thinking of you|1 There were about 2000 fewer tests reported today vs yesterday so unfortunately in this case your answer isnt correct|0 What is up in the US with the miss trust of kids at home In USSR kids were left home all the time and we grew up fine I was like 5 years old and was always left home alone until my brother was born then i took care of him|1 All of these pieces of garbage need to be found arrested and prosecutedIm all for a guy making a buck but in these circumstances it is absolutely illegal and completely evil|0 But how would I pay for my doomer prep|0 They are immersed deeply in the superman complex cuz it will never happen to me But man they will feel bad when they cant get treated for that car accident or their grandma or parents are in ICU in danger of not making it because of a disease that was transmitted through carelessness Or even worse when the hospitals have to make decisions on resource allocation and Grandma is not on that list for ICU space and a ventilator because younger patients are more likely to recover and have much more to contribute in life Maybe then it will sink in for them|0 the magic hand of the free market will somehow make sure everyone has a living wage Never claimed that however the situation will be better for everyone Besides its not just the wages we are talking about but also problematic industries like healthcare and housing would be fixed by patent reform and reform of zoning laws respectively|1 Yeah I saw that but it looks like just to keep it consistent with the own substancially unchanged definitionsI saw different definitions by China but every single one was about the illness never about just the infection What changed most is how suspected is defined but it always included pneumonia of some kind And confirmed always was suspected and some kind of lab tests always only ill people not just infected onesAnd I mean if it would be to manipulate numbers would they remove them and even such a small number That doesnt make sense|1 Nurses around here go on strike over low pay benefits and health insurance costs Read about some that were refusing to work because they werent protected from this virus Not the same nurses another location forgot where|0 Well its been over 2 weeks but yes its quite impressive|1 People trying to assuage the fears of uninfected people with that kind of numbers talk and the person gets lost in the data|0 Money I am hardly able to pay rent and cannot afford to miss any days at work I may not make rent if I cant do overtime Im also sick and live on west coast Maybe someone who is financially secure can afford to stay home but Im taking the chance its just the common cold because the alternative is well I dont know living on the streets I guess|1 Its just bad business though the entire office could easily get sick with a disease that puts them out for a week at best|0 The prepping began about a month ago Im feeling fairly well set now|1 Australia gotta look out for Australia No china no buyers for their minerals recession Stop telling governments what to do when for years global cooperation has been frown upon to benefit individualism Go aussies Do your thing|0 I one hundred percent agree with you A pat on the back and nothing else I guarantee when our reviews come in for raises this whole thing is going to be overlooked over some dumb mistake you made one time during the period|0 I personally think Western governments have a better means of addressing these issues Governments should not and cannot be run like organizations and businesses because despite being giant entities they are SUPPOSED to represent the peopleIm not sure why OP is trying to introduce this in a positive light a government where officials cannot be elected through either a direct democracy or a constitutional republic what we have in the US is highly susceptible to corruption and nepotismWe have issues with lobbyists here but at the local level people are still capable of making changes to their direct environment by participating in local neighborhood boards which I notice is often ignored since its more fun to worry about whats happening nationally|1 1 million percent soldier keep spreading the real info Also remember there are many strains when U get better stay on guard After u survive all strains you are immune We hope|1 Mcdonalds is actually really good sometimes The quality of the food is just inconsistent|1 I confused FoldIt and Foldinghome from FoldIt FAQ No Foldinghome is developed and operated by the Pande Laboratory at Stanford University and can be found here It uses idle processing resources of personal computers Foldit however uses active minds like yours to interact with puzzles We are made by the Center for Game Science at the University of WashingtonThats apparently a different approach that what I explained Foldinghome That probably seems more viable than just getting people to do itFoldinghome relies on randomness to find something FoldIt relies on collective intelligence both are quite powerful tools Are millions of machine better at finding something by brute force than millions of human minds by creativity|1 That would look a little creepy with no context|0 lts funny to blame the firewall for not getting info on the situation in China Here is one question for you to think about why do you see certain information Thats because someone is incentivized to spread it Speaking of information on China if you do not skip the intermediaries and find out by yourself you would only expect to receive selected information from two sources traditional media and selfmedia I do not know the complete incentive structure of traditional western media but I can share some preliminary thoughts Facts first traditional western media focuses on Chinas negative news One example the trailer death case httpswwwbbccomnewsukenglandessex50162617httpswwwbbccomnewsukenglandessex50162617 Without doing basic confirmation they rushed to report that those who died were Chinese who try to steal into UK for better life But ridiculously the dead turned out to be Vietnameses You may wonder why they are biased One reason is that negative news on China offers a sense of revenge for those who suffered from the economic competition by China More attention more ads or political influence Here is one study on the top journal Exposure to Chinese imports and media slant Evidence from 147 US local newspapers over 19982012 ScienceDirect httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticleabspiiS0022199618301673httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticleabspiiS0022199618301673My another preliminary guess is that resorting to ideology may help some politicians get support because they would be perceived to be representatives of justice Also these negative news would serve as leverage when comes to negotiations related to their funders interest Such as let the Wall Street have better access to Chinas financial marketAnother source selfmedia also only have incentive to selectively spread Chinas negative news and even create fake news with unrelated videos Its easy to understand most of the information sources are those previous Chinese who are disatisfied with the CCP and only negative news offer them the sense of revenge and sense of superiority I want to make it clear that those negative news about China are often true but they just could not give you the whole picture You shouldnt expect to get normal or positive information about China from them From Xinjing to this virus its a universal lessonx200BHere are some sources for you to study the virus in ChinaFirst cross check using data like traffic pollution commodity For example click traffic during Chinas rush hours on maps like httpswwwamapcomhttpswwwamapcomx200BSecond gov sponsored media like CGTN and China daily offers postive information for you to conduct critical thinking x200BThree learn some Chinese and search on Chinas social media or video platforms They offer unintentional information that you would not expect to see on media For example search vlog back to work vlog on bilibili httpssearchbilibilicomallkeywordE5A48DE5B7A5vloghttpssearchbilibilicomallkeywordE5A48DE5B7A5vlog Or search on Weibo|0 Thank you for doing as much as you can and caring about your employees This is exactly what I mean When small businesses are going through the trouble theres no reason for million dollar retailers to just carry on with business as usual If one of your employees gets sick from someone who wasnt careful youll have no employees and they will still have no pay People arent thinking about this|0 Yeah but its not directly boosting the economy with each purchase Or curing people|0 When youre told your whole damn life that your country is the bestest country in all the land its hard for some people to understand that the sentiment is nationalistic nonsense and that were going to have proof its nationalist nonsense in about a monthWe cannot expect to have the same outcome as South Korea when we have done none of the work and made none of the same sacrifices|0 Yesthat side effect of H1N1 was particularly scary I didnt know who I was I didnt know where I was I gave it to my younger brother who had horrible breathing problems already We were so lucky to have survived They shut down the schools for a week because of us We were the first people in our town to get it We still have no idea where we got it from|0 Something that wont 100 clear up on its own if you just rest for like a week maybe less|1 Depending on location Kansas has Coffeyville that puts people in jail Guy who is the judge has NO law degree|0 Have you seen UKs plan to try and gain herd immunity|1 Healthcare Arch weve had to update our specs on materials for some hospitals because they use these wipes for everything and it was running finishes super fast|1 No hes not the only thing Cuomo cares about is his optics for an eventual presidential run Theres a reasons most of the state hates him|0 Nice|1 Yay for competent government|1 Its just an observation I find it strange|0 10 genetically dont process alcohol normallysaying all of us get drunk easily is bullshit Im Asian and I almost certainly can drink more than you unless youre a 280lb Maori then I concedeTo add Koreans are the hardest drinkers in the world doubling Russians and quadrupling Americans|0 Still puts him in net negative karma in my book|0 Darwin award recipients|1 Yes but as Wikipedia mentions its very common for antibodies to trigger spike proteins and lead to ADE in vitro but its very rare in vivo This effect seems that given the incredible range of antibodies possible would be really quite common and easy to evolve so there must be something more to it IDK my intuition is just that this is too obvious for a virus to evolve there must be a countermeasure used by the immune system This seems most likely because of information that says that most viruses can exhibit ADE in vitro while very few effectively exhibit it in vivo and even when it happens H1N1 2019 is an example it seems fairly mild in effectPlus the pattern we see with Dengue is that cytokine production is reduced whereas this virus shows tremendous cytokine levels in severe cases which is the opposite of what we would expect|1 We have community spread 7 cases with unknown cause of infection so Im pretty sure were under reporting by a lotWere probably going to need to get GPs to start sampling cases at random to have an idea of how widespread it is|1 Fuck the Federal Government Fuck the CDC Fuck the FDAWell thats exactly what the president did He fucked them all and now we have a virus|0 How so Im not a big fan of the PAP lol|1 Yeah I mean if I run out I could just wash my ass with soap and water|0 Thanks for the update brave citizen|1 Yeah you need to be sedated or you try to pull your tube out Even if you are unconscious your arm will come up and try to pull it out if you arent sedated deeply enough Your body also has its own natural breathing rhythm and will fight with the rhythm of the vent if you are too awake They do their best to keep the right level of sedation although nothing is perfect|1 Exactly I had my professor cancel his class twice two weeks apart for recurring symptoms Ugh this is terrifying|0 Depends whether you have worked and saved all your life and want to protect the value of your savings Or if youre lazy and selfish and what the government or your mommy to pay for everything|1 Damnit I wrote a long comment about this to OP and by the time I finished it he had just deleted his comment and it disappeared into the void|0 What blows my mind is that were all Canadian on this subreddit Finally no more Americans Chinese Russians or Mexicans The usual I see online I see a Canadian like once in a bluemoon But this sub makes me chill af It makes me want to hug you all Happy tears|1 If everyone wears a mask any mask the actual effect is larger than that because infected people who coughsneeze dont spew droplets everywhere|0 Good Paying people for not doing work|1 To be honest how fucking dumb do you need to be to even ask|0 Its okay in Europe to ask politely people to step back from you and elbow people who dont get it the first time|1 some people find them less confusing and much more informativeWHO tracking is kind of arbitrary For example SARS has a sizeable number of dead on day 1 but is comparing with a completely different epidemiological step for day 1 of nCoV|0 Hopefully because Ill be raking it in as a Deliveroo employee with an electric bicycle Just put the food bag on their doorstep and stand well back|1 We can only hope to delay and delay may be all we need to avoid the hospital surges that caused preventable loss of life in WuhanLombardy Keep calm Slow it down and Flatten the curve|0 An excellent question First and foremost it would seem that Japan has done a better job of slowing down the disease so farSecondly the Italian population isnt just old Its old and sick Very many of these patients will have an expansive smoking historyobesitya host of other serious comorbidities I would expect that Japanese geriatrics are comparatively healthier on average|1 Uh oh you are guilty of wrongthink on Reddit prepare to be downvoted|0 I dont see it anyway I love the person who committed that regardless|1 Love my city Theres been a decent movement here to buy gift cards from restaurants to help them through this Durham Distillery has gift cards for purchase online If you live in the Triangle and appreciate what theyre doing throw a few bones their way to help them keep going You can redeem it for some good quality hooch if I do say so myself once we get through this|1 No idea All we know is that before his condition went south there were at least three days he was no fever symptom free and test negative twice|0 The where The stores around me in CT have been empty I havent looked super hard but I havent found any n95 masks|0 This sub is amazing Its full of absolute lunatics Every time I comment or post something it gets downvoted to hell I love it Im only here to keep tabs on the casesdeaths and watch every lose their fucking minds over this|0 People are having fun In the days before PC ran amok circa 2012 people joked|1 Question Is it laid off or time off Ppl have to get compensation from getting laid off right Hope things works out for him|1 Do atheists already have immunity to afterlife death Asking for an infidel|0 Then you cant bitch about the Gov trying to save the economy|1 Are you sure Yesterday had a recount of mislabelled cases Today is a new in the last 24 hours case countSeems to me today is actually higher than yesterday if you do not include all those recounted cases|1 Absolutely A friend of mine got sick in Poland in January fever coughing and shortness of breath that is not really usual with the flu So far officially Poland has got 0 cases though This is actually good news because it means that the of severe cases and of mortality are surely wildly exaggerated|1 Right but how would the NDPs healthcare expansion proposals increase the scarcity of ICU bed Universal dental and pharmacare shouldnt effect ICU bed funding|1 I meant it as more of a help one another What has caused the spread is people not being smart|1 Pretty wild situation 2 weeks from now everything goes to hell I imagine|0 Honestly This isnt like a snake bite its like a bullet|0 That sounds like a great idea however I have read some accounts of reinfection occurring It seems possible that one may not have immunity postrecovery hopefully this isnt the case but time will tell|1 Your numbers add up to 1 of the total population needing beds That 1 wont be all at once Will it strain our resources Sure But even then if 100 of your 1 of people die thats a 1 total population death rate The comment that started this chain said 24 of us That comment is too high|0 No matter what it takes at least 90 minutes to burn a body with gas at that temperature Even if you leave the gas on and pull ashes out as you push another body in So for 300 bodies per day thats 12 per oven 1290 minutes 18 hours So Shanghai is running 3 shifts The article mentions others dont because of the smoke The articles about Wuhan say the workers are NOW having to work 24 hours so they dont usually run 3 shifts Shanghai is different from Wuhan Wuhan had spare capacity and is now using it all Wuhan probably ran like the old Shanghai crematoria in your article only during the day because of the smoke Lets say Wuhan used to run 12 hours a day So now they are running at at least 200 So work out the number of cremations Wuhan usually does double it The increase is your body count from wufluDisturbingly Shanghai appears to not have spare capacity|1 Under the current administration I can sadly see your point|0 Agreed this is going to have terrible results if when it gets big in the US The big majority of Old people in China barley take any daily medication been living in China for a long time in general they are way healthier and have 20x healthier diets than old people in the USwestern countries Just like the issues you listed I would say the majority of older people in the US are on SOME kind of medication And of thoes a big of them are one multiple multiple multiple types my parents for example this may get really ugly if it hits old ppl populations|0 Why would they need to Reddit is already making people panic plenty|0 Oh come on We have articles in major journals including the Lancet referring to nCoV19 as the causative pathogen and youre drawing upon a few selected early cautious academic quotes to sow doubt Perhaps there was room for significant doubt a month ago but theres little nowAnswer the question Why do you so strongly feel that we should be seeing good detection of a virus that resides in the lower respiratory tract from upper respiratory swabs|1 There is no guarantee a vaccine will be found anytime soon or ever|0 Due to the ignoring of medical advice social distancing measures by citizens all across FranceI dont get it didnt the government just organise elections If people are asked to vote in public how can you accuse them of ignoring measures|0 if you live in the usa it most certainly did CDC has been warning for more thana month now I live in Europe My government didnt warn me about situation|1 Yeah I agree normalized is a stretch Interest in the idea sure has spiked though|1 whats the source this goes beyond impeachable to going to prison type shit|0 Cash is gross I wish contactless payment options would take off faster Were still so behind compared to some of the Asian countries|0 If that is true which I dont think it is then what is with all the panic and quarantine If 1 have it in the US the we are taking 35 million people And even if our deaths are 100 times higher than we are reporting now we are still talking about a 2 death rate|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Taiwan is its own country like TibetChinas government is an asshole that like to destroy other culturesTheyre currently trying to wipe out Uyghurs by putting them in reeducation campshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiXinjiangreeducationcampsUnfortunately the world ignores Chinas human rights violations because of money|0 That was obviously a joke if you actually watched it|1 Lol we always fail at the last hurdle Im hedging my bets on the USA for first to 1m|0 less efficient spread in summer months I have seen some people say this is there established researched for covid 19 regarding this |1 This post terrifies me the most The attitude in America is that were all just going to get it so why bother Life expectancy is very short for people who develop lung fibrosis|0 Right right I was more curious if you had a source saying the kids who were tested had respiratory distress and feverresson behind the question is so far Ive heard that most kids are asymptomatic or show such mild symptoms that you wouldnt know they had the virus In this case it concerns me that the kids were apparently in high enough respiratory distress that it warranted testing This indicates to me that it might be more serious in kids than we are being told Thats why I was curious if you had a source telling us what condition these kids are in|0 I think shes just venting She should be fine uthisisathrowawayk Sorry to hear you feel so stuck at Costco I have a friend with the company who feels the sameway You guys will get though it|1 euphoric|1 No but globally they do kill 125 million people each year I mean hes wrong to downplay the risk but he is right that the panic is dumb and counterproductive and while it certainly remains to be seen this thing is a long way from killing 125 million per yearHe should stfu but so should the people screaming millions will die and the great depression round two will follow|0 Misinformation From China|0 There were lots of people in my area who werent taking it seriously mostly a lot of old people and some teens When they started closing cafesrestaurants people started having picnics in the countryside Right now poachers are reportedly taking advantage of the chaos to do some illegal hunting|0 Good point about the shoes and coat Its too hot here for a coat but we can have indoor and outdoor clothes|1 Well the new trench is adjacent to a big cemetery I dont think theyd be putting a farm there|1 Fluid in lungs severe This is the problem with unknowledgeable people having so much info|0 I literally visited a Chinese crematorium a weekish ago It takes about 40 minutes to burn a body and they have several furnaces The small city crematorium was constantly burning bodies and this was the normal operation since the virus outbreak had just startedI didnt count the time or interval but It seemed like they finished burning a body less than every ten minutes A lot of people die in China so you can expect the crematoriums to be busy on a normal day|0 Not denying that this virus is terrible in the slightest I just have a question Can someone explain to me why half of the people are over here saying things like omg stop panicking the flu kills more people The news is blowing this out of proportion and creating fear and then you have the other half some being scientistdoctorsprofessionals saying to be concerned its going to get worse etc Generally Im a bit of a germaphobe anyways but Im not panicking or afraid of anything Dont downvote need into oblivion I am legitimately curious in this discussion|0 60 days isnt sustainable in this day and age Theres going to come a point where we have to weigh turning the world back on against risking complete social economic collapse There will be people taking to the streets in violent uprisings if too many people go too long without a paycheck|0 Fake news That was probably from something else|0 Not gone lie I think I had this shit too I was sickFrom late January until Late February Body ache fever coughing like crazy Plem Sore throat weak Then I just got better The cough syrup they gave me gave me bad cramps I just messed with peppermint oil It reallyHelped Im in Cali by the way in a tourist area|0 No it is nothing like the flu Maybe you should get an education|0 Its amazing what anxiety can do Ive had terrible stomach aches nausea and a feeling like I was going to feint recently which at the time I put done to food poisoning or some other illness only to be perfectly fine a couple of hours later and only then realise it was my anxiety I hope for you this is just the placebo effect anxiety can have The coronavirus has me very worried also I think Ive developed some OCD and paranoia in terms of washing my hands and disinfecting things I wouldnt be surprised if i started feeling a placebo effect of the illness especially if I heard a family member was diagnosed or it had reached my hometown Fingers crossed for you all the best and try to relax|1 I have a coworker who went to the ER yesterday with a last tested fever of 1057 and the ER told her she had a severe UTI and upper respiratory infection Sent her home with instructions to self quarantine until Friday 315 |0 Oh ok Im litteraly on the opposite side of the country Stay safe|1 Agree with flu for sure What pneumococcal test are you talking about Asking out of ignorance I think positive procalcitonjn may have some role in ruling covid out tho not completely since there can also be bacterial Coinfection Checking for lymphocyte count and ldh can also be usefulI think if we gather everything we know so far about the virus we can get someone sensitive and specific in finding the people infected Obviously would be so much better if we had the RT pcr kit for covid instead|1 Would this apply to cannabis smokers as well|1 Stay strong my friend And prepare for darker times now that you can|1 I work for a nonprofit in WA state and we are being asked by our members we serve to discontinue all events meetings etc to help stop the spread But honestly if our organization shuts down these things right now we wont be able to make enough revenue to keep our doors open or our staff employed as we generate most of our revenue during this time of the year Not sure what the resolve will be but a lot is on the line for everyone everywhere in my different ways|1 Okay|1 I will be messaging you in 3 months on 20200612 001619 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202006122000161920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfh40ikmy60yearoldfatherwithmultiplepreexistingfk9anwocontext31 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ffh40ik2Fmy60yearoldfatherwithmultiplepreexisting2Ffk9anwo2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020061220003A163A1920UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fh40ikInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Im in Ontario and our prep is done Thankfully our extended family is on board and my friends seem to also be prepping if less|1 Switzerland is richer than SouthKoreaSwitzerland is ranked 1 in wealth per person Heres total wealth and GDP to provide more contextAccording to Credit Suisse 2019 South Korea is ranked 11 in total wealth Switzerland is ranked 14 in total wealthTheir GDP according to Google 2017 data South Korea 1531 trillion US dollars Switzerland 06789 trillion US dollarsIm not sure why countries are not copying South Koreas COVID19 drivethru testing Theyre reportedly able to test over 20000 people daily which helps quarantine infectious people and flatten the curveCountries that dont provide cheapfree testing will probably have their hospitals get overwhelmed like Italy People who dont have COVID19 can end up dying because of shortage of ICU doctors nurses and hospital equipment And it would have been preventable|1 The goal is to keep the number infected to a small percentage In China less than 01 of the population was infected because of the measures they took Most rich countries should be able to achieve a low level of infections Some developing countries will not be able to do that|0 Thats primarily because the federal government has no other choice than asking people to be careful pretty please Pretty much all the effective measures would have to be decided on state level the federal government simply has no legal means to do anything that mattersPlus in Merkels case sitting things out until there is only one course of action left and then claiming the remaining measures are without alternative has been for modus operandi for as long as I can remember|1 Really China seems to be one of few places turning this aroundI mean theyll grab massive market shares when theyre the only country that handles this well in the end which is a problem but everyone wants the american consumer base I guess that could change too|1 inb4 the moral relativists come in and tell us there is no difference between eating dogs and cats and eating Cows|0 Problem with this type of thing is that they will get it as in understand itIts only a matter of how they will understand itI hope the government will do it the right way but i fear it will go down in the wrong one|0 Problem is there are people for who its impossible to work from home Within my own family my dad is ATC at Dallas International where you dann well cant just take work home and than my mother works as a radiology sup at the county hospital which is starting to really get swamped but its critical that the techs still show up For those kinda people the best option is to stay safe and practice good hygiene as to lessen the chances of getting sick and then spreading it to others|1 Uggghhhh Its sickening how right you are|0 Please refrain from offtopic political discussion|1 My husband and I left Rome this morning We changed our flights yesterday after everything closed until April 3 Upon arrival to the US Detroit Customs did not ask us where we had been in Italy nor did they take temperatures of anyone onboard We are beginning our selfquarantine based on the CDCs recommendation No mention of this anywhere at the airport|0 everyone being stuck in thier cabins is actually very well quarantined if the virus does not spread through ventilation|1 The general population isnt taking the virus very seriously something to do with the government I believe They think its just the flu|0 me tooeverytime I do my xanax intake increases exponentiallyjust wonderingare suicides up right nowno not me Ive got a family to take care of and would never leave them like that|1 I mean your minister of heath put herself into quarantine out of solidarity thats the level of intelligence leading your country|1 Its just 1600 or so with insurance if youre coveredDo you have a source other than the story about that one guy in Florida Im not saying its not a problem but I think throwing these numbers around with only one source is going to scare people off from getting tested It sounds like that guy had a shitty plan with a high deductible That isnt true for everyone|0 It is against the law for the US government to intervene in legal contracts between two private parties|1 Dont One data point like that is completely meaningless|0 Some are like this its like a certain percentage of the population higher in some areas than others AchoooooruralrepublicansoooooSorry had something conservative in my throat there|1 Change your whole political system You need more than two partiesThe two party system is a naturally occurring byproduct of our firstpastthepost winner take all election system This has been richly studied by political scientists To have a multiparty society the election system must be changed Unfortunately that requires fundamental changes to the US constitution Such changes can only be made by a supermajority of the Congress or of the State legislatures which are of course 100 controlled by the two ruling partiesSince changing the election system would perforce significantly weaken the two existing parties there quite simply isnt a political process that can achieve what you and I want The only way to achieve this change is unfortunately a complete revolution against the state|1 That brings up a good question Which country at this point has the best testing care and treatment at this point I heard S Korea is doing great job with testing|1 Ill be so glad when all the freaking boomers wake up and stop insisting on inperson meetings when all we do in IT can be done remote|0 Isnt it more effective to wear a mask if you suspect to having it Id rather be protecting my immediate family being in such close proximityI think anyone travelling into cities or busy towns using public transport will get more sparse if this escalates Will be interesting to see if government ends up restricting travel to ensure masks arent becoming a de facto|0 I live in Washington state and am definitely feeling this Its sooooo frustrating when people here act like its not a big deal and say dont panic because its like come on now Theyre probably just talking to themselves ultimately though and projecting Dont tell me how to feel if I want to be freaked out and worried thats my right|1 For low income families that are relatively healthy quitting their jobs and not working will have a much more severe impact than getting sick|0 We dont have wealthy neighborsif you know any plz introduce me to themjkMany young people are going trips abroad since CNY is the only long vacation for many people But some of them are stuck outside now|0 How many people actually live on Macau Always thought you went there for work and play left unless you stayed in a hotel|1 I mean they also have the infrastructure Thats really the key point Its not like they are just tossing coin at the problem They have they logistical knowledge to deliver kits rapidly Aside from maybe UPS or FedEx whose models dont seem as optimized thats not possible with any other company|0 This is glorious|1 Taiwan is a very socialist country with universal health care public college education nationalized railroad gas and electricity and semi nationalized phone and internet service Wtf are you talking about Just because Taiwan is in conflict with communist China doesnt mean the country is actually running full capitalistx200BTaiwan do have low birth rate because of high housing price and aging population It doesnt have problem with suicide rate|0 Very lucky on that Now we can move on with a sane and rational candidate who will win|1 Good thing powerful people are in the middle of rigging US elections so that strives towards real democracy can never happen|1 Why Because they were showing the truthWas following their videosWish them well and hope still alive|1 Although this post is comedy gold Im going to be that killjoy personI have a few friends that are immunocompromised They HAVE to wear gear like surgical masks to protect their physical health if they are going out to do their shopping if they go to the pharmacy or the grocery store to medical appointments etc Cut to the freakout we are having in NYC right now Weve had several incidents involving people reporting discrimination refusal of service andor threats of harm for wearing surgical masks in publicIm not criticizing your post but the reactions of some of the people in your post are so ignorant disgusting and reflect the navet of those who have never known what it is like to live through an epidemic or ever having suffered the misfortune of chemotherapy or living with an autoimmune disease like lupus I would have lost my shit on the CVS cashier and the asshole who made a comment about believing in God|0 Is this a coronavirus info sub or rpolitics in disguise|0 Dont ask me Im not from the US What Im doing is pointing out what Im seeing as the problem with the logistic issue we have created world wide by making one country the manufacturer for so many things|0 you must forgive yourself for not working miracles you are just human we read books about difficult times and authors flesh out what people might have felt and thought during the spanish flu or living in the trenches during WW1 after this all blows other you will have a great depth of empathy of what people might be feeling and thinking some day there will come a day that feels normal and on that day remember you did your best|1 Ah on the Gold Coast Where I live Where I had to call in sick to work today called the GP got put through to a RN who told me over the phone that I have the regular flu because I havent travelled and that I could return to workThat Gold Coast|0 appreciate it|1 You take that back dirt bag George Costanza wears GLASSES NOT GOGGLES|0 And dont they have to normaly bury their dead within a day|0 I lost my job around the outbreak of corona virus Being an introvert and loner was always an obstacle for many situations which only introverts know I feel blessed for the first time in my life Considering these traits the possibility of me getting sick is extremely low If I get infected then normies have no chance|0 Well they did say that alcohol rubbed on the outside of the body will not kill germs inside your body so it only makes sense to drink it right|1 Its seems those who have created this hashtag either dont understand the reality of most servicehospitality workers living paycheck to paycheck or just havent thought this through well enough be fucked if I am staying home and risking losing the roof over my head|0 This sub is fucking crazy lmfaoIf there were a million cases then we would be seeing a massive surge in pneumonia deaths and hospitalizations Instead the last week saw pneumonia deaths nationwide decline|0 To be sure he was reinfected he should have been tested negative before testing positive again Was this the case|1 Ive been in this sub since approximately 50k I joined sometime in January In Michigan after all the news thus far the world news today outbreak explosions in Iran Italy the US market taking another hit I was absolutely the only person at Meijer buying supplies in preparation Everyone else was going about their normal lives Im starting to feel like Im crying wolf but I cant be I definitely DO NOT see this going away anytime soon and I think weve yet to really see how hard this is going to hit the world economyedit for the record I thought I was in rCoronavirus when I posted this I cant even keep up anymore lol|0 Ohhhh thanks for your great info|1 Buy some latex gloves and hand sani Technically the customer should appreciate this More tips|1 85 percent survive though My mom lives in over 55 community and is 85 She is in better shape then most of them who are younger and have heart disease and diabetes and these are people who are taking care of themselves A lot of people that age are in nursing homes|1 the way i see things the advantageous US corporations will move the supply chain back to the US and then automate the factories to ensure production does not slow down in times of crisisi feel like this situation will speed up the already faster than light digital revolution|1 Its a good thing the odds are on your moms side then|1 This is just false We dont have enough healthcare workers to handle the load especially if it was free and mpre people utilized the services|1 SPECULATION The real reason Turkey opened the gates for refugees to flood Europe is that they already know its spreading throughout the refugee population of over 35 million They dont want to be responsible for all the necessary care and deathsDont test them just send them out to EuropeEdit Since Feb 27th Over 100 thousand refugees left Turkey for Europe after opening of borders Turkish Interior Minister httpsnewssolorgtrover100thousandrefugeesleftturkeyeuropeafteropeningbordersturkishinteriorminister176583|1 Knowing the strategies of for example the DWP this is VERY fortunate for the government No action no evidence no crime Corona is doing them a favourIts so sickening|0 Wow What state is that|1 In Italy you are now charged of attempted murder and pandemic spread and you risk up to 12 years of jail|0 Im glad Im a 20 minute walk from the closest supermarket 3 minute walk from the corner store and 15 minute walk from the pharmacy|1 Meanwhile In Korea citizens are getting real time dm alerts on new cases in their area as well as what places they visited|1 NEXT FRIDAY wtf il just take next week of then not risking catching it just to go to school|0 He was not ready lol That was great|1 Is he late I hope he is putting on his mask|1 Is there monitoring or checking in with discharged patients who got the all clear Or any studies being done on their post discharge health You hear things online and I wonder if anyone out there is currently collecting data from recovered patients|1 More insane you mean|0 It got my mind more panic about coronavirus|0 My guess is they know theres a very real chance especially if the above is true that there is no insurance for that kind of cancellation they just held the last SXSW|1 fingers crossed one of the reports is going to ask about it in this conference that would be funny|1 Yea a great Ted talk where he suggest depopulation|1 There is many people that show it while asymptomatic idk which tests are done its not my mom but they tend to not test you anymore if you are|0 Santa told me to tell you to go fuck yourselfs|0 We had several counties close for 3 day stretches due to flu Just to disinfect everything and slow the spread Not much but it definitely helped|1 I have a feeling if they did more the French would just start rioting like usual and make the problem worse until the rioters all got sick France is always a delicate state|0 Im not sure if workplaces are feigning ignorance or if theres a script theyre forced to follow Mine sent out two emails which essentially said Its just the flu bro while the US was declaring a National Emergency and shutting down all major sports and events and Wash your hands and dont cough on people ThanksIts surreal I can do my job from home as long as I have my company laptop But were just expected to come in business as usual And pretend the pandemic elephant in the room isnt really there|0 Ebola cannot even be compared to the coronavirus Its like comparing a psychopath with an extensive knife collection to an angry chicken Ebola is a brutal illness with a skyhigh death rate Your chance of dying from coronavirus is less than 1 assuming you are in good health and are not elderly I find it amusing that the mainstream media thinks that 3 new cases of coronavirus in a certain country is breaking news I think that the lesson to be learned from coronavirus is not to trust mainstream media|0 Oh yes Im actually celebrating the lunar new year by visiting relatives I brought a portable wifi just to constantly refresh this sub My family thinks Im slightly crazy and some of my friends Im fear mongering by sharing statistics online|1 Its the social media trash that only cares about what other people think about them that wed honestly be better without As long as they can show their friends that they are having an exciting life nothing else mattersFuck them|1 Dont worry about those numbers too much A fatality rate of 63 does not mean your chances of dying from exposure or infection is actually 63 if you have asthma It just means of the people who were tested positive and had asthma 63 died All of them might have been over 60 had other conditions or were in general poor health We dont know All we know is pretty much everyone of those people died in Hubei|0 Hi Aqua thank you for the great write up If you could give any advice to people who may go through this but havent yet what would your advice be preparation wise Thanks very much from Australia|1 The problem is the CDC failing to stockpile basic medical supplies and the subsequent shortage Citizens doing what they can to protect themselves is not selfish It is abundantly clear that we cannot trust the government to protect us|0 No but for certain country datasets Statista has quite alot Most of them I was able to access for free though|1 Thank you More people need to understand this|1 No Where did you come to that conclusion The slums of India are notoriously bad Kids huff their own piss and shit to get a high|0 Maybe so but we have to stop blaming the US for something China majorly messed up on by suppressing news and real accounts of the threats back from early December We all thought it was just the flu just like Italy did Now we learned from their mistake Better late than later|0 They had St Pats bar crawls today in Philadelphia I work in one of the bars We were literally PACKED It only takes one selfish person so imagine what a crowd of them on the move can accomplish Ugh were doomed arent we|0 Yeseven in Hubeiexcept Wuhanpeople will go back to work in a few days because there are no more new confirmed cases in other cities of Hubei province We have been staying at home for nearly two months This vacation is so long and boring that we even miss working LOL|0 Australian government has called it a pandemic because they think the WHO is too influenced by China Surprisingly ballsy or what|1 Its not a vaccine its an antiviral It would only be used to treat people who already have the disease Vaccines are at least a year away by most estimations|1 Thats a lifesaver right there if you ask me|1 Just a flu guys s|0 Im sorry do you mean the flu Trying to act like this means that other famous Chinese disease H5N1 bird flu|0 Dude lots of people can and will benefit long term by having regular supplies on hand In my area its recommended to have at least 3 days supplies in case of natural disasters and lots of people I know dont even have that No biggie to stock up a bit more to ensure 2 weeks worth Maybe this gets some people more ready|1 Yeah in fact when symptoms first start to show you have 10000 times more of the virus in your throat than if you had Sars The contagiousness during incubation is terrifying|0 This is our best scenario yes|1 and yet they say Officials say the first coronavirus death in Washington state is not something to panic about No need to cancel activities involving sporting events or large crowds just yetHow does this make any sense|0 I think building a hospital in 10 days could be done in any country if something like this happened With a large city I dont think our first agenda item would be to build a 1000 bed hospital Maybe some type of camptent city type place but not something like what they did I do think if it came down to something like there not being enough beds in Americawhich there arent youd see more teams of doctors traveling around to check and treat peopleIm not sure how common this is with this situation but I did have a friend post on her wechat There was a team of 3 doctors from her hospital in that province taking house calls instead of working in the hospital Thats only 3 doctors but Id imagine if there was a team of 500 or 1000 doctors It would still take a while to check 11 million people but I think it could be done And it would certainly be better than millions of people moving around and possibly spreading the virus It seems like the only logical thing to do would be quarantine people and do home treatments The logistics would be getting the quarantine in place quick enough to limit the spreadWeve seen the timelines over the last month Some of them making us be like WTF and others making it seem like they didnt want to cause hysteria Its unfortunate that this happened around CNY but as soon as they announced the quarantine they shouldve shut that province down and honestly most provinces around it almost immediately Instead they announced it gave people time to leave and then enforced it Its already being handled much differently hereAmerica and around the world We might not have the drugs for it but the world is quarantining the shit out of people as much as they can Im hoping this doesnt become an issue here or anywhere else seriously With all the business travelers and coast to coast travelers it wouldnt take long for an outbreak to start and multiply It terrifies the hell out of me Side note The person I question the most is the WHO guy For him to say travel restrictions shouldnt happen Is this a freaking wet dream for him or what Every plane shouldve been grounded in and out of China weeks ago|1 if this is true they might not be included because theyve only recently died|0 Please keep us updated if that should be the case the following days would like to know how that plays out hopefully well We shall see|1 This sub is predictably yawningly turning into yet another antiAmerican circlejerk but lets not forget why this virus became this much of an issue in the first place and the morons that started it China I dont give a single shit how well allegedly and I doubt it theyre doing as of today They allowed it to get so bad and now its everywhere They blocked information and fudged numbers are probably still doing it and all to save faceAnd you assholes want to sit here again AGAIN and flog your UShating cocks like petty trash over this Youre a dead show Youre not selling out seats anymore Talk to us in a month less when my country will have a lid on this thing Even then youll find some other excuse|0 Interesting|1 beach is healthybut maybe they should put some limits on how many people can be at any particular beach More spacingeven if no COVIDyou wouldnt find me at this pictured beach|0 Theres a Chinese expression heaven is high and the emperor farTheres lots of things that are illegal in China Not everyone follows all the rules This is a country that supposedly let bats from a virology lab get sold as food|0 Yikes those comments Ive been avoiding twitter its just so cringy to me to see such ignorance|0 Gotta blame somebody I guess we should blame 45 instead of China|0 Thank you for this answer but honestly that seems like an evasion of the statistical realities and a diversion to a fact that minimizes the potential risks to our medical system from uncontrolled spread Im disappointed that you arent willing to be more straightforward about the scale of likely US infection prevalence I understand that reading between the lines of your comment about 80 not realizing they have it is a nod to the fact that given only testing the very ill we are missing the majority of cases But actually stating that good statistical models predict soandso many cases seems more realistic and direct|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Or how about a trade people bring in sterile nonexpired masks and get the expired masks they can use insteadI know it sounds like nobody would do this but Im sure there are people willing to help out who might|1 None of these metrics are robust We dont know the value of cured because we dont know how many were infected in the first place|0 I understand where youre coming from but waiting for people to come forward esp after their symptoms get severe enough to seek help is different from seeking them out to isolate them through contact tracing before they can infect others unawarely Canada is not very thorough with their contact tracing and thishttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf80ifjwarningletterwassenthomewithmygirlfriends is a good example of that|1 We dont have masks in Oz so its fortunate our experts are the correct ones aye|1 Yes Ive been doing calculations to see when its in the thousands and its looking like early April its gonna be bad Double every 4 days was what I was working with|1 They have a responsibility to keep people who might die from this virus safe I dont believe the ship is the only place for this There are many airbases around Its wrong to keep people in a situation where an infection is known to kill people Japan has coped with many other emergencies like with the tsunami and the nuclear plant meltdown They have emergency facilities they can use and the experience of how to use it They went through SARS so I dont believe the Japanese have no emergency planIts already being transported to land No way moving all those infected people hasnt spread the virus|0 I totally agree with you|1 I just got banned from rworldnewsTotally CCP shill puppets who did thatGod I hate reddit so much with Chinese goverment controlling redditWhat can we do calling out reddits owner or something like that|0 Something about trump turns people momentarily stupid and lack self preservation|0 One nba player become positive thats reason enough to test them|1 Dont forget the pets Or the threat to his employment|0 Same here in Denmark just went to the largest online news magazine here and started to scroll down to find news from Italy but NOTHING at all not even a tiny note Wtf|0 Same in US I am trying to find a doctor who will prescirbe instead they prescribed Azithromycin Zpack I am not sick but if you say the word Pneumoniaall they feel comfortable giving you is the antibiotic This was 3 days ago surely they have heard by now|1 I had a post forecasting this 5 days ago deleted as alarmist Numbers are not substantial enough it seemsMaking extraordinary especially alarming or potentially harmful claims without substantiation is not allowed in rChinaFluEdited for clarification|0 Your comment was removed as incorrect bot action Comment deemed useful|1 Yep|1 Sorry to hear that|0 Thanks for the warning but no one is listening|0 22 actually one of the 3 increase had already returned to China before a test result came in initial negative test sample was retested positive later|1 How does it feel to know that not only does everyone online hate your opinions but everyone in your life as well|1 Apart from Belgium most countries are taking it very seriously certainly no countries are saying that flu is worse|0 Nice Im sure theyll listen|1 Thanks for the clarification This is what I understood it to be but I was told it was incorrect|1 I just hope that he doesnt quit out of frustrations or that more probable hes going to get fired and replaced with Paula White|0 So instead well just bail them out with federal money while the executives make and run the business so close to the margin that a couple weeks could wipe them out|1 How unfortunate for them to not be in the high priority Actors and Athletes group|0 Wow Just posted that anything i post on covid on FB doesnt seem to get distributed|1 No ones allowed there|0 Crazy how the only nation they has been containing the virus is Russia|0 Its just the flu get back to work|0 The CDC is like that one incompetent group partner from school that always says theyll contribute to solving the task but always ends up screwing you over |0 Swim goggles might work too or so I hope should the need arise Im sure I could have used better gear but a foot of snow has to be cleared somehow and better to be me than my older parents However I did buy a 15pack of buffs for my father for his birthday so if it becomes necessary he probably has more than one available We have lots of workshop glasses to prevent eye damage but digging for more giggles might be a good idea in the long runWarmth and safety to you and your community|1 Sounds likely I work in sales in the events industry and I will tell you that this affects events way beyond the next few weeks Event planners dont know when things might calm down so theyre cancelling or postponing events that were scheduled for the spring and summer Event venues hotels production companies caterers and airlines are going to be making cuts to staff and its not going to be pretty|1 I would say that the part A problem is not so much a science problem as an engineeringvalidationbusiness problem This HUDSON protocol is described asaddition of TCEPEDTA and heating samples TCEP and EDTA were added to urine samples at final concentrations of 100 mM and 1 mM respectively A 2step inactivation at 50 C for 5 minutes followed by 64 C for 5 minutes blood products or saliva or 50 C for 20 minutes followed by 95 C for 5 minutes urine was used Inactivations were performed using a thermocycler or a dry heat blockSo in the current stage some lab equipment is needed It is an engineering problem to make a cheap and portable device to perform the required heating steps automaticallyAnother issue unfortunately is that the authors of this paper from Broad Institute ie MITHarvard patented the method So Mammoth Biosciences the company with the DETECR platform would have to license the technology from Broad Institute And they may have business reasons not to do so or may be trying to develop their own method that wouldnt violate the Broad patentFinally everything would have to be validated on patient samples of throat swabs or mucus or phlegm or whatever actually works best for COVID19Many of these hurdles are not scientific in natureEdit to add It doesnt help that there is a big ongoing patent battle between the Broad Institute Feng Zhang is an author of the HUDSONSHERLOCK paper and UC Berkeley Mammoth Biosciences seems to be a spinoff from the lab of Jennifer Doudna httpswwwsciencemagorgnews201702howbattlelinesovercrisprweredrawnhttpswwwsciencemagorgnews201702howbattlelinesovercrisprweredrawn|0 Do you disagree with what he saidIf China gave you a number you will say its fake If the WHO gave you a number you will say its controlled by the CCP|0 How is a cruise ship that different from a college dorm or an office building or a casinoIts notThere are many environments where people are living in close quarters eating from buffets sharing bathrooms touching the same surfaces etc for hours on end|1 awe ur cute when ur mad 3|0 Phew For a second I almost believed that redditor could you imagine the danger I wouldve been in|0 Said something to my husband about stocking up this evening because1 China has a habit of downplaying anything negative and just flat out lying2 Look how hard the seasonal flu hits developed countures and as a society we are pretty proactive to combat it3 We have no definitive information about the incubation period and whether the infected person is contagious before symptoms spread4 It is a major holiday in China which means higher than average person to person direct or indirect contact Depending on the incubation and transmittion rate expect those numbers to explodeAfter laying out what I thought were perfectly sound reasons to be prepared he practically looked at me like I was an idiot getting hyped up because I watched pandemic on NetflixI find epidemiology morbidly fascinating and blowing it out of proportionBut my thinking is better to be prepared and it not happen then it happen and be totally fucked|0 I am not American but honestly I would never ask an airline to fire all of their pilots because a guy with a handbook could fly these things Thats essentially what youre asking Its not just a communication team which btw is the sector I work in and its incredibly difficult if you dont have experience a teenage social media manager would never be able to compete with me Its a team of doctors and epidemiologists exactly the same ones we need right now to know if this thing is going to die off become less potent or potentially kill us all|0 China has fucked the world by knowing first and doing nothing but lying and covering up until it was far too late The world needs to stop relying on China for anything|0 Im not sure how effective official quarantine actually is now In the UK theyve moved away from the containment stage altogether because too many people are catching it for that to be worthwhileOn the plus side if I actually had corona I can confirm that on the 80 mild symptoms side it is actually quite mild|0 So its just like the DMV|1 In the UK I dont have a gun but neither do most If anyone tries to brake in it will have to be a good old fashioned dust up Dont think anyone will try though|1 Well while there was a single day of faster drop in the 2008 it it keeps same velocity for at least a week it can easily be said to be a crash|0 Thankful to have Mike DeWine as our governor right now|1 Subs like this just like the media thrive off bad news Ignore it|0 Yeah Im exploring my other options currently Trying to look for work on top of it all Its been a stressful few days|0 Agreed|1 5 million citizens didnt fly out of Wuhan They traveled So mostly train and bus And mostly to other provincesAnd yes They were selfish|0 Mask like gloves often given a false sense of security that can lead to increase in other behaviors Eye face nose and mouth touching You wear a mask but touch your eyes face nose lips mouth with handsA sick person wearing a mask essentially stops all droplet spread from coughing or sneezing A Does a health person wearing a mask help them stay health YesB Does a sick person wearing a mask help health people stay health yesThe cost of A is large with a small benefit because of the described limitationsThe cost of B is small and the benefit fully realized|1 Putting faith in government is usually a losing proposition Take your knowledge of how to stay healthy and protect yourself and your family|1 About damn time imagine being stuck in a tiny cabin with this Next needs to be planes and all nonessential overseas travel At least until we take control of the situation|0 It is odd because he is a selfprofessed germaphobe His addiction to constant adoration wins every time|1 Ty po|0 Sure of course and thanks |1 I have to agree with this Yeah we have to wear masks to go anywhere but I had a nice walk today Good weather My work is still delayed but theyre communicating well and doing daily health reports The wartime labeling is a little over the top imo|1 That is most definitely not the case People travel on planes to Disney from all over the world People travel to the grocery store from nearby neighborhoods|1 Not true If you have a rapid test you could test and find results in hours You could have clinics test and if positive you could go to the hospital if its serious or quarantine yourself if you are healthy and not in the danger ages preexisting lung conditions Thats idiotic to say hospitals will be over run now and ignoring what will happen in two weeks as it spreads We could have gotten on top of this|1 Also the time they interned Americans because of racism|0 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Those people should be in prisonThe prisoners dont deserve that|0 Peoples lives and their health should not be monetized thats the bottom lineWe once had a form of socialized medicine in America prior to FDR signing an executive order enabling the creation of health insurance Back then it was believed health insurance benefits would be considered valuable to current and prospective employees of companies helping businesses struggling to retain and recruit workers Im confident had FDR known health insurance would become a multitrillion dollar industry that prioritizes profits over lives he would have reconsidered|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Temperature check upon arrival in Italy Absolutely nothing during the flight back not at Venice airport and not at Amsterdam airport Contacted the Dutch CDC this morning regarding my travel history and they will not test me until I have a fever which I dont understand as you can also have mild symptoms and no fever even asked them if I could go to work and that was no problem I am however avoiding any personal contact and am not meeting family or going to stores|0 Its not about being denied service Its about how much the service will end up costing you and bankrupting your household should you not have quality health insurance And even then you have deductibles and copays|1 Here they come to save the moCOUGHtherfuckCOUGHCOUGH hang on I need a sec|1 Screw Bloomberg|0 Its actually becoming clear that recovered is a very hard category to nail down|1 In la its nothing like that even downtownI did see a few older Chinese men wear them once or twice nobody gives a shit here|0 explains why the importance given to the strategy of trying to level the hump of the infection curve by various tactics so we dont all turn up at hospital together|1 Thank you I really hope all goes well for you all lol new temperature thingy Pretty awesome description What kind of thermometer do you use I use one of the ones you put to your forehead and have a regular under the tongue one to cross check it with Im about where you are with the low grade fever 3738 It started to fall a couple times and then came right back Also the person I live with just cracked a low fever for the first time this evening and then it went away and has not come back yet|1 Thanks Democrats|1 Training for a half marathon here Ive moved all of my runs outside thankfully the weather is better anyway but I havent given up my Tuesday crosstraining weightlifting yet I am planning on washing my hands before working out and after and wiping everything down Ill probably give this up next week though if the news keeps getting more grimIm in the NE America too|0 Theres probably already is shit 350M people and barely any testing this whole time Idk Maybe thats exaggeration but I just wouldnt be surprised if that was the case is all Im saying|0 Yeah Id feel even better about his vids if he highlighted where he really was not an expert in the things he talks about|1 On the flip side 5K is nothing compared to the medical costs or death costs you riskor even just lost wages or job while stuck in quarantine|0 I cant believe Reddit is my best source for up to date news all of a sudden|1 Its less than 10 deaths its closer to 3 and many of those that died are elderly which is pretty common if you look at that die from influenza and pneumonia at age 80 and older|0 Thats true as well|1 Thank you for sharing her story Every day I pray for the people of China|1 Good thing I already bought mine They kept making fun of me for being a prepper and keeping a closet full of food and supplied for any situation lol|1 TBQH this is the only ting right now that can hurt him and doom his reelection bid We will see how he handles it as an American I want him to be successful It would be dumb to want him to fail and potentially have thousands of American dead|0 We being people who are informed and browsing rCoronavirus etc Just think about all of the deniers of what is going on and what they will do if that happens |0 I am truly sorry youre going through this I dont know if this helps any but at least one random Internet stranger cares|1 So it would simply stop the progression of the disease|0 As a fellow O Im pleased but 25 of cases from O blood group is still a big number This is significant in the statistical sense but not significant enough to leave my house|1 It is good that China is aiming to get hospitals built so fast Here where I live in Canada it would probably take years to do|1 Its still bad news Survivability is still low and long term damage is high All I need is six more weeks without coronavirus thank you|0 Hi Just wondering when to start wearing my N95 in public Theres still only 1 confirmed case in London Canada 115 miles to the east But now 21 cases in Toronto 230 miles east And now 5 cases in Chicago 250 miles west All connect directly to Detroit by interstate highways Eventually east is going to meet west and well get our first local case Im thinking Ill start now with N95 in public Might as well get used to itWhere are you|1 Yea for example the 2009 H1N1 didnt have a vaccine and it was a worry at the time but the CFR was 20 times lower than for COVID19 I think the much higher CFR and the extremely rapid spread in the absence of controls and the resultant mass chaos it caused in Wuhan is the real cause for the drastic measures being taken|0 In my line of work after 911 everyone is assumed a terrorist and must sign15 things on 20 pages literally before this it was 2 pages and one signature Oh I havent caught a terrorist yet in my paperwork because being a terrorist sort of means you wont be my client anyhow|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 For that much of a difference though It has occurred to me one thing that is most likely to skew the data how many of the sick are healthcare workers Because early on I think it was like 13 of the sick That could skew the numbers but still not by that muchEven in China I dont think doctors are usually smokers|0 Thats stupid People want to get help BEFORE they are dying Why is that too much to ask|0 And they keep us busy going at each other because if the left and right joined sides against the corrupt elite there would be no stopping us But instead were too busy being angry at each other while they get away with everything|0 This might be true but thats exactly the same as Canada Craploads of empty space and a few big cities and occasional smaller towns|0 You might be wellmeaning but a lot of this is misinformation|0 If that stiff neck doesnt go away go to the ER to make sure it isnt meningitis|1 Tyrants dont happen in a vacuum For instance did you know Hitler wanted to be an artist when he was young Or that his father severely beat both him and his mother He became a monster by being the victim of one People say thats no excuse but its the reason for the insanity that followed When our humanity dies the humans around us suffer We are the most savage of beasts capable of unlimited cruelty The only thing that prevents that is kindness and that is a rare commodity in our world as we are clearly seeing with this virus Our other choice is to follow natural law As a species wed be stronger for it But as human beings No|0 Your post was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Read the post He said that if he doesnt get a call back it means he is negative He waited 4 days and got no response so went out Only on day 7 they said they lost his sample|0 So youll go to work and get your coworkers Ill I also cant afford to miss work neither can my husband We live paychecktopaycheck We currently have 67 in our account until Friday Unbeknownst to you my husband has a genetic lung disease See If you irresponsibly came to my office sick because you dont want to be late on your rent therefore getting me sick COVID19 is likely going to kill him Thats the reality My otherwise healthy 38 yo spouse So pls be mindful and stay home if youre sick or have been exposed You dont know what all of your coworkers face at home compromised spouses kids parents Landlords car loan companies and mortgages will have to wait The entire country is facing this This is going to get worse before it gets betterThis is not the time for us to be selfish We need to work together as a community even if our governments arent necessarily working in our best interests right now|0 My cousin tested positive shes Australian and had been in China where the outbreak was then she came to London to stay with me I was immediately contacted by my family in Australia then I had to go into quarantine|1 Im in the same boat Hopefully things change sooner over later|1 Trump is a germaphobe and the CDC said be prepared for life changes|1 It wasnt Cuomo it was DeBlasip Cuomo absolutely wanted schools to close and many schools in Westchester county and other northern counties had already announced closures this week It was DeBlasio who was stalling probably because of all the consequential steps that must follow such a decision like shutting down the subways the main artery of NYCIve actually been surprised by how much Cuomo has been doing especially with testing We were one of the first states to have independent testing for COVID19 Cuomo wasnt willing to wait for the CDC to get their act together they were stopping independent labs from using tests that hadnt gone through their channels and the FDAs for approval Cuomo was like fuck that were not waiting We had the first containment zone in the whole country up in New Rochelle and there are drivethru testing facilities in place and more to come obviously If it werent for those initial steps Cuomo took wed be in a MUCH deeper pile of shit|0 Apparently it was equally as severe to all age groups especially to pregnant women|0 if we have 300k open beds and a 10 hospitalization rate it only takes 3m infected people at the same time for us to be out of spaceand thats if the patients all happened to be uniformly distributed to match the geographic distribution of the beds across the US in reality maybe NYC has 50k open beds but they have a huge outbreak of covid19 and have 1m infected requiring 100k beds|0 yes small governments are better faster and more efficient what is the IRA Im not a troll Im an American and the federal governments job isnt to care about me Its to protect our land from foreigners State and local government handle this type of thing And yes I am a fan of shutting down the FAA FDA and CDC as well as dept of Ed Commerce Energy and many other useless agencies|1 Clearly an idiot who was denied a mortgage I would be shocked if banks dont assist people through this My bank already put out an email letting us know they have a plan in place to help people who lost their job with the mortgage payment Of course this is a local credit union and they have always done right by us|0 Is it true that they can only test a certain amount of people by day If so is that because of some rulelaw or because we simply dont have enough tests|1 Alabama with no current confirmed patients|0 H1N1 Which they claim gave them backlash over it being too mild Which still sounds like a retarded excuse as they clearly just want to cover up the Coronavirus|1 Way to fight the fight guys|0 You legit showed up to work wearing a full face respiratorAmazingAny chance of a pic|1 Published March 10 2020Updated March 11 2020 it remains unclear how many Americans have been tested for the coronavirus The CDC says approximately 8500 specimens or nose swabs have been taken since the beginning of the outbreak a figure that is almost certainly larger than the number of people tested since one person can have multiple swabshttpswwwgooglecomampswwwnytimescom20200310uscoronavirustestingdelaysamphtml|1 But then that makes the population easier to control andor kill|0 Hope they stop events here soon and close schools There was one person who had the virus and was walking around school with it for a few days and what did they do about it Nothing not even close the school for a day Just keep goin like there isnt a deadlt disease going around|1 I have a coronavirus meeting in 10 minutes its not here yet but we are planning ahead We are going to ask any employees showing symptoms to get tested and if they have corona the company will pay for them staying home even if they dont have PTO We are also setting up sanitation and disinfectant wipes and adding wash handsdont touch face signsWe are a small company 150 people We can afford it The megacorps saying its just too impossible to have their minimum wage legions take some sick leave for coronavirus are completely full of dogshit|0 I am a bigger person myself and I would wager that it is because with more weight your body has to work harder to fight off infections However it is not as high of a risk category on its own as say having asthma or being immunocompromised|0 Ive been saying to people that I really wish Obama would come out and at least speak about the virus to calm people down and tell them that actions are being taken|1 99 of the active cases are mildx200BSo it probably wont rise by much if anything|1 libertarian here so im sorta on your side but switzerland|1 Heh thanks but I think I deleted it anyways it wasnt very important of a comment just wanted to let you know that I wasnt being off topic in case you guys keep score cheers friend keep up the good work|1 you know some people incorrectly believe that italiansspannishgreeks arent True whites I bet this is one of those cases|0 10 off the next cruise in 2021 Heres 2 free Itchy and scratchy passes|1 It has been confirmed that at least some asymptomatic people are definitely contagious I dont recall seeing any credible reports of infected asymptomatic people not shedding the virus Only authorities claiming that asymptomatic individuals are not contagious or are much less contagious without backing evidence apparently to belay panic There has not yet been any largescale study into asymptomatic transmission that I know ofI have yet to see any information regarding how long the virus remains active outside the body that wasnt speculation It could be hours or it could be days As far as I know the data just isnt available yet|0 They need to go to a special port in order to get enough tests for 3000 people|1 Thats mighty fuckin big of them The bastards will still get their money just a little late They arent doing this for our benefit they dont want you to stop accruing fees|0 The BBC this morning featured a GP elderly with the virus saying shes more or less recovered and feeling better in 2 days Totally and utterly irresponsible How can our government shitshow claim there is such a thing as herd immunity with a virus only a few months old FFS We dont know if theres immunity how long it lasts and what happens if as in Spanish Flu in 1900s wave 2 turned out to be far more deadly Why wont they tell us the truth|0 You would most people would not We saw people openly admit even those fearing the virus will go to mass events|0 Hang in there You are going to get through it especially if you are under 60 Thank you for your insightsthe rest of the world can learn a lot from Italy|1 Senate Cassidy R Louisiana asked Deputy Director Schuchat about current contact tracing methods and she responded that there are too many cases of the flu CDC leadership may not know what contact tracing is Schuchat probably spent 3 hours proofreading this document and then got distracted trying to find where she last left her coronavirusrotovirus broach as seen here and on national television last week httpswwwcdcgovaboutleadershipleaderspddhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovaboutleadershipleaderspddhtml Despite this document and many thousands of additional pages of guidance we are operating ad hoc on this|0 Because of a failed government response and uninformed public People have been selfish bc they dont want to be inconvenienced and have to change behaviors so instead of tracking the virus and practicing social distancing they have decided to call everyone else crazy and refuse to look at any data that would prove to them how selfishly they are acting|0 Good point|1 Very interesting so Obama set up a homeland security sort of thing to micromanage all the disparate agencies that might be needed in a crisis and Trump dismantled it FEMA tried that centralization of bureaucracy route and it was a massive embarrassment but then again that was FEMAIt also looks like Bill Gates was really upset about that and predicted doom and gloom if a pandemic were to happen Now his foundation is stepping inhttpsnypostcom20200206gatesfoundationpledges100milliontocombatcoronaviruscrisis|0 NYC cases have me doubting that Entire families in NYC are testing positive even though kids may be asymptomatic NYC woman who got it from Iran is in the medical field and is likely more knowledgeable about preventing the spread|1 Remdesivir has already gone through human trials when being tested as an Ebola drug and it was found safe|1 Testing nonserious cases has nothing to do with treating the sick its about keeping the infected away from the noninfected so the virus stops spreading|0 Remains unclear just how high risk travelling on same flight is httpswwwcmajcacontentlackcovid19transmissioninternationalflighthttpswwwcmajcacontentlackcovid19transmissioninternationalflight|0 these are the type of people proudly proclaiming how the virus will kill millions of Americans and gleefully hoping for the worstcomplete doomers filled with bitter rage|0 Nice|1 How skewed is the age distribution of passengers The n44k study showed that the relative risk of death goes up extremely nonlinearly with age|0 lol I was going to respond with the same thing until I read your comment|1 No thats 1 person out of 50 WITH the coronavirus not 50 of all people and heavily weighted against the elderly and immuno supressed|0 I know of a teacher who just took a vacation to Italy despite all the warnings How irresponsible can you get|0 Very True Taiwan the real mvp I think|1 The doctors fall no one will be able to take care of the patientsRight now a lot of medical staff especially at smaller hospitals and hospitals out of the major cities are extremely underequippedMost medical staff have to make due with as little as a standard facemask standard chinese maskspit protection nothing in terms of proper protection|1 In fact what is more important and harder to do is not quarantine but national mobilization|1 I mean if Graham tests positive I think well all know about TrumpThis is going to be interesting|1 there is no conspiracy theory it has been proven by satellite photos that organic compounds above wuhan especially have been very high the last few months and not in line with previous averages|0 Unfortunately reddit is an echo chamber and the message on here has been The US is terrible for quite sometime waaaay before this pandemic started Nothing the nation can do will change that and every move is criticizedReddit has far more inexperienced folk preaching than actual creditable sourcesusers We will never see a post of Soandso city is prepared and doing it rightits just not going to happen|0 He probably cares not because of your opinion but because of how dumb you look when you try to spark an argument about abortion in the fucking COVID19 subreddit so how about you stop with the smart ass remarks acknowledge that your replies are unrelated to the thread and are intended as debait yes I just came up with a word for baiting a debate and grow up|0 Everyone is from us idk why you ask |0 It takes time and resources to make the tests Its not like flipping on a switch 10000 tests available next week and 20000 the next|0 He def had symptoms on March 11 hence the team announced he was sick and will not play He wasnt playing well in the game against Toronto on Mar 9 and theres a video of him sniffling during the game I didnt watch the other gamesI dont have perfect information It is definitely possible that the kid gave him the virus Further it is also possible that Christian Wood gave Gobert the virus As it stands these confirmed cases are all linked to him as early as March 6|0 Like any of us or our respective governments were prepared for this or can react in a competent manner to the onslought of the Chinese disease Dont feel bad were all in this togetherStay frosty and of coursewash your hands |1 Stay safe you amazing human 3|1 What city is out of hand sanitizer|1 Kim Jongin sends coronavirusridden condolence letter to president Moon over corona virus outbreak wishes good health for South Koreans Yonhap|1 Its hard to ban these because it would give birth to black market and even worsening the problem Thats crazy how people think that one things is valuable depending on the price tag|0 Great advice Ill let the hospital staff know you said it was ok|1 Thank you for being the voice of reason I worry also that there will be long term reduction in lung efficacy but the truth is we cant know that yet because we havent had a long term with the virus to study it|1 Better start looking for the next pope|1 Why do you want meguy to finger you|1 Someone posted here about how they were denied testing in the USA because they are only testing people bad enough to need an ICU Otherwise they are sent home and told to isolate could this actually be a good thing more people getting tested means more potentially contagious people all going to the testing locations increasing chances of transmissionA shortage of hospital beds and equipment can be avoided this way for the people who need it mostMore people tested the better I dont think those 2 claims are enough to justify denial of testing on people|0 If you think the powers that be give a crap about your loved ones dying youre dreaming|1 I agree with the first part but when we are talking respiratory illness China is in a much worse position health wise Smoking and pollution rates levels there are incredibly much higher than they are in the US|0 I live in Bologna too I fear were going to be isolated like Lombardy pretty soon No one comes in no one goes out|0 I never said both didnt need to exist Its about size and scopeThe private sector especially publicly traded companies dont take risksThats not true more calculated risk thoughTheyre not going to engage in a 10 year research project that puts a man on the moonI wouldnt put it this way The private sector doesnt invest in low return on capital ventures The man on the moon has no commercial viability or at least too low The public sector is very good at funding or subsidizing private companies think Spacex or even Tesla research that is a public good while ignoring the commercial viability currently if subsidized because private companies expect it to become profit generating as technology or process is honed or everThe US Government has laid most of the foundation for the technology in our modern way of lifethe Internet GPS weather reporting satellites modern agriculture The private sector has monetized and built on that technology100 agree and its definitely had some good outputs Like I said size and scope Funding university research is important and should be pushed I even believe we should have a way for government to bring in revenue off funded research universities have started to for themselves in some rare cases Also private sector is just as inefficientThats really not the case especially when it comes to both productivity and price|1 Thanks for the info but how did the virus cause his heart to stop I guess Im just confused seeing as most other cases its the pneumonia that kills|0 Its the most powerful in nukes But when it comes to the country itself not so much The lack of healthcare is why I decided against living in the US when I started working|1 Trust me Beijing isnt afraid to tell people what to do just because its not politically expedient like you see in Western democraciesAgree Beijing isnt afraid but What I mean is that Beijings focus is power and control Things like HK Uighur the firewall disappearing all help them control the populaceBanning eating bats doesnt meaningfully help China from a control perspective aside from a reminder that China is the boss so its in their best interest to upset its citizens unless its worth itI think this ncov may make it worth it in Chinas mind Whether its by banning this type of thing or just coming down hard on provinces to cut back on this type of thingIm not Chinese so I dunno but Xi isnt dumb and has to recognize how bad of a look this is for China Millions of people are becoming aware of how disgusting Chinas sanitation and health is and theyre seeing videos and pictures despite the ban Almost every developed nation will exert any pressure they can muster on China to change itThe practice of eating exotic animals has always been there and the Chinese government simply did not care to regulate or monitor such practicesRight Dont pick fights that arent worth it every authoritarian knows that I just think its worth it now SARS was presocial media and when China wasnt yet an economic power like they are today except Trump of course|1 Same NYC is insane right now To those asking why front line health workers are being yelled at for wearing or asking for masks there is no logical explanation But the illogical explanation is that higher ups are telling everyone to conserve resources by only wearing masks when patients have the appropriate diagnosis for that mask type ignoring the fact that BS screening that ignores do direct community spread and vast undertesting is making it impossible to identify people who may be contagious before weve already come in direct maskless contact with them|0 No you wont be able to tell by your blood work People here are actually retarded|0 But its not money If I owned 1 of Amazon but had no money or other assets and lived extremely frugally I would still be a Billionaire|0 Web BotWeb Bot is an internet bot computer program whose developers claim is able to predict future events by tracking keywords entered on the internet It was developed in 1997 originally to predict stock market trends The creator of the Web Bot Project Clif High along with his associate George Ure keep the technology and algorithms largely secret and sell the predictions via the website PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusFOSaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 I would disagree and say the WHO has been very open and transparent and realistic compared to the US gov response|0 Authorities have their own versions of Tencent appsDude they are going to be getting those numbers on documents specifically meant for them There isnt some alternative tencent version specifically for authorities lmao And again why would the CCP even trust tencent with the numbers Why would they give it to them in the first place at all|1 Mmmmm so BJ says carry on as normal keep shaking hands use your mouth to open public toilet doors etc buuuuuut WHO says 60 and immunocompromised avoid crowds and now we are in a state of emergency I mean WTF Do we panic now Haha|0 This is a black swan event and no system anywhere was prepared for this no matter what they say So there will be the inevitable element of confusion as policies and guidelines rapidly change but I also believe theyre trying to limit testing untilif a major outbreak occurs Thats when testing will matter most They probably dont believe preemptive containment is even possible its either gonna be a lucky case of no ItalianChineseIranian style outbreak in x area or thats going to happen in other places as well and thats when they will agree to spent the money on wide spread testing Thats what it comes down to the decision of when to use the money and resources|1 Thank God Made my day|1 The existing tests still give a lot of false negatives And if it takes 521 days for symptoms to even show it seems plausible you could still have the virus for some time after they go away People probably need to continue bedrest medications etc for some time after they start to feel better|1 Thank you I needed this|1 Shill because Im not buying into a conspiracy that twitter gives a crap about censoring some random dude OP probably shared something they shouldnt have Probably multiple times|1 Im a teacher in New York State and I have one student who just returned from NYC one who just returned from Boston and one who just returned from Disney World all in the past week Just yesterday I had to tell them all to stop passing around their Starbucks for everyone to try in homeroom and another one to please not get so close to my face middle schoolers man I know its just a matter of time until we close but theyre waiting for someone to actually show symptoms and test positive Could be me at this point|1 no restrictionsbut instructed to self quarantine|0 If he does have it we will know He would have to be put into quarantine the 25th amendment would not apply though sorry reddit Trump could still conduct his duties in isolation|0 CDC is staffed by exFOX news dipshits and other political hacks at this point Trump has broken the civil service just like he ruined his airline casino and university Good luck|1 I also agree I essentially will do a full month right now at my home I live in Milan even tough were not blocked till this Sunday I decide to adeguate myself to that measures and right now that is just a confirmation that everyone should do that I hope that right now everyone will understand that|1 You are absolutely correct And your finding is not anything new Dr Benjamin Rush george Washingtons doctor made several references to temperament and longevity with his patients Today some people will get stressed out when they drop a pencil on the floor|0 I think we are slowly being worked into a country wide quarantine They just didnt want to panic the country It will only be a few days now IMO|1 Impossible to stop it at the border without closing it Information pamphlets and web sources should be given to every private vehicle and to every passenger on a multipassenger vehicle Information should include all the details of personal cleanliness and pathogen avoidance as well as a number to call should COVID19 be a suspected cause of symptoms they haveMore personnel may be needed at border crossings It is possible that USAmericans have no idea how to protect themselves and the rest of society given the political stupidity being imposed on them People may need to be taught these things|0 no doubt Im talking about all the media coverage and general talking that this petition will cause|0 People like this deserve a public flogging|1 Is it possible for you to purchase a box of gloves and use them during your shifts This obviously wont protect you from people coughing in your face or sneezing at you but it will help to protect you from the virus particles they will have transmitted to the grocery itemscashsurfaces in the storeWear one pair per shift try your very best not to touch your face during your shift use the surgeon technique of removing gloves to prevent contaminating yourself with the outside surface of the gloves check out how on YouTube and then very very thoroughly wash your hands at the end of your shift before you leave the store Take a shower when you get home to remove any virus from your hair face etcIts not perfect but it will reduce your chances of getting sick If your management allows you to wear your own masks and you have some availabile thats even better Best wishes to you and everyone else on the front lines |1 Congratulations future monarch|1 God speed Contact your local government figure and express the urgency of your situation Only those in power hold the key to combatting this effectively|1 forth A senator in the delegation and Bolsonaros lawyer are also positive httpspoliticaestadaocombrnoticiasgeralnestorforstertemresultadopositivoparacoronaviruscomitivadebolsonarotemquatrocasos70003232754|1 Surely theres already copyrighted blueprints for most parts that could be decopyrighted Maybe then modified to work with a universal car part common fish tank pump or something idk|1 Not necessarily the actions being takenbut rather the fact they pushed fear of vapes all summer into the winterWarning everyone of the dangersbut now we have 10 of the worlds population under quarantine and they are telling us theres no reason to worryVery much comparable|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 sounds like they are getting some freedom from life right now|1 True But we cant force them to behave Do share information That is something you can doDont stress about the people who dont get it because we cant force them to take this seriously in American culture Theres nothing you can do other than share the information and get on with life|1 I can agree on that perhaps it has to do with that most European countries govern this on their own and in the US it is more on a federal level perhaps But I really dont know anything about that But even if they have the surplus they are out of masks as well And I have American friends telling me that if the WHO declares this a pandemic most health insurance providers there have clauses to negate paying in that case So in the end many wont benefit at all from the surplus|1 We have entire counties over here that are saying theres NO virus reporting But thats because they have no access to the kits Im in NJ and Im positive we have more than the 260 reported cases they have|0 Dyspnea difficulty breathing I always have to look that up|0 No that was Trump|0 I had someone tell me today that they had checked the numbers themselves last week and the flu had a 6 mortality rate I tried to show them the actual numbers and was told its fake news The American public is completely incapable of handling a pandemic|0 about 5 on a 010 scaleFor a more specific question Id be happy to answer|1 No they must be hiding it Waiting for the world to turn their back to them and then they will finally reveal themselves that the were communists all this time Muahahahaha Seriously how can you be so deluded Leave Russia alone and focus more on your own country|0 This thread dont trust the CCP their numbers are shitAlso this thread CCP says 24 days awwww shit|0 And if it was compared to something like HIV but with this spread wed already have had full panic mode All virus should be taken seriously how many on this sub gave any consideration to preventing flu to limit exposure to the elderly and sick|0 for an 18 year old you are extremely well spokenI think everyone in this sub shares youre feelings precisely HATE not being able to do what I want I like staying indoors gaming but if someone told me i HAVE to id want to do the opposite loltry to keep yourself busy maybe take on a role in the house be the person that cleans everything at night and makes sure your family is safe take on some responsibility that calms you down while also tiring you out and keeping you occupied I dont know if you game or read or write or whatever but hey this is a great opportunity to guilt free do your thing|1 Im stunned Walmarts heart grew onesizenot three|0 Question do we have to leave the PC on during this or will it work with it on sleep too|0 Yup from China At this point they have it more under control than anywhere outside of east Asia so Id be more concerned with things made in EU or even US Also I Clorox wipe every part of every package I receive and will certainly be doing that for the one thats going to be touching my face Also also its on a ship for 2 weeks plenty of time for the virus to die and I havent seen anything saying more than 72 hours but please point me to where it says 9 days because thats very important to know I think given all of that wearing the mask is a couple of orders of magnitude less of a risk than not wearing a mask around a population that thinks its not infected bc were basically not testing rn|1 This was a good presentation Some takeaways1 First 5 infections in Wuhan had no link to wet market2 Based on epidemiological modeling first infection c midNovember3 Due to the delays of incubation onset of serious symptoms need of care etc most EpiCurves at beginning and at this stage of epidemic are wrong need to be modelled differently4 This spreads more like an influenzavirus and less like SARSCoV 2003 due to viral shedding peak being more influenzaviruslike5 Asymptomatic transmission very likely6 Leungs teams current calculated Symptomatic cases CFR sCFR estimate based on Chinese population data bracketed into age groups Relative susceptibility to infection NB This is not the same as CFRinfected nor is it the same as CFRasymptomatichttpiimgurcomYrJjivapnghttpsiimgurcomYrJjivapng7 Leung corrected the misquote by Guarding where he supposedly said that 60 of world population could get infected He said that that might be possible wit no measures and no medicinevaccine but the more meaningful questions are how fast will the highest infected rate be reached and how many are severe need treatment8 Wu et al published Lancet model about the efficacy of mobility reduction quarantines and transmissibility reduction quarantine mask compliance handhygiene etc showed that the peak of the infected in the epidemic could be flattened if there was high compliance The actual data from mainland China actually followed this model quite well That is draconian control measures did work to control the epdemic9 Very strict movementisolationquarantine measure have a high economic costs cutting down production Things need to be restarted When people return to work its not a matter of IF a second infection wave will happen but how fastbig and how will it be handled10 If Western countries can achieve c 60 of rate of control measures of China they could considerably flatten the peak of number of infections11 Does closing schools help Yes if done early enough and it may help reduce serious cases in the elderly population at least with Chinese familypopulation dynamics12 Making a workingefficient antibody vaccine for SARSCoV2 may not be as fasteasy as for viruses that are easier to develop due to differences in how the virus interacts with antibodies|1 Because via FedEx and UPS itll get to the recipient couple of days not a month like with USPS|0 Russia china and the US are three countries no country can realistically fuck with|0 mild cases does not mean no hospital treatment needed all these 8020 estimates are based on the 45k patients sample in a china research paper in which mild is classified as no ventilators needed The worst case in the mild category is pneumonia you can search on the nyt report there is this expert talking in the daily the podcast as far as i know thats the only report ive read in english that mentioned it i shall not make assumptions about the reason could be avoid panic but dont take the mild as in commom sense mild its still severe to catch pneumonia though would not require the precious hostipal ventilator Boris plan is real worrying me im in china and follow the corona news intensively for months its not good to see GB handle it like this Hope you get through without too much damage|0 i cant claim its by designbut that apathy is certainly beneficial to those same corporations who work people to death for comparatively shit wages considering they make a lot of profit when politicians like Trump do things like slash regulations grim|0 Thank you for sharing this|1 Love all the rest and am personally in favor of the dance off but if that were a criteria I would not have married my husband Hmm|1 The ol chinese people dont age well theorem|0 Well if they dont then everyone will know they are patient zero for this area Ga isnt overwhelmed with cases so they may have an unmarked car watching their house or something Also the fact they had the thought to call their doctor first get tested gives me hope they will continue to be responsible hopefully|1 And yet a fickle cunt like Angela Merkel refused to suspend travel from Milan I havent seen a single country suspend Schengen area travel But correct me if Im wrong Three countries will be in Italys spot in 19 days France Germany and Spain The alliance will be tested hard on that when countries like Poland and Chzechia decide they want to stop exporting medical supplies and fed for themselves because Brussles is weak|0 More like 2 months|1 There is no theory Drastic reaction is needed to contain it and it is being contained and will not turn into a world health organisation emergency I believe|0 I hope this will be strictly enforced|1 same as the article 400mgday side effects are vision loss its rare so we have to have our eyes checked annually by an ophthalmologist I dont feel a huge difference physically with it but it keeps my immune system in check|1 Why wouldnt Florida just hire a private company to make the test kits I hear they are relatively cheap and easy to produce compared to capabilities of many labs Who cares if results not certified This stinks to high heaven|1 I agree that Im skeptical about this but Im even more skeptical about an unsourced anonymous rumor reported by David Sinclair a guy who is also telling people on his Twitter account that you can diagnose COVID19 by holding your breath for ten seconds|0 That is also very possible Great point|1 Its not our fault our government abandoned us Our country still rocks Merica |0 Rather fruits and vegetables with Vitamin C is your best bet|1 Of course they are Just like the bought the lie that Japan bad China good when yes Japan did evil in the war but Mao also killed a vast degree of his own citizens|0 Also new evidence has come out that people have the highest viral load most infectious right at the end of the incubation period as they become symptomatic If accurate this means theres a 1 2 day asymptomatic period where someone is the most contagious httpsfaithwashtublivejournalcomhttpsfaithwashtublivejournalcom shes an epidemiologist|0 I live in Manhattan been watching the streets from my window and am heartened to see fewer and fewer folks out every day Were still so so devastatingly behind but its looking like more people are now taking this seriously and staying in ahead of actual lockdown ordershopefully they come soon|0 Well the statistics say that it is barely dangerous to a healthy young human BUT healthy young humans have parents and grandparents that are unhealthy old humans So most people in their 20s and 30s are totally fine their parents and grandparents are the ones at risk People dont understand that they can infect their family members tho or dont want to understand|0 Thanks for sharing an incredibly poignant story Others have commented on Dr Pou and Im not going to go there I know a lot less about the facts than the witnesses and the jurors who decided not to indict But what an incredible story of dedication and professionalism in the aftermath of the hurricane from people getting thrown into an exceptional situation|1 I am an oncology patient and today I was asked if I had traveled to China in the last two weeks I was like nope I have been right here being poisoned by you people when would I have time to travel|0 Lol basement dwelling antifa supporters downvoted us|1 Nopethe idiots are trying to get around it Some guys from fujibjj just broke up their Raleigh tournament so as to have just under 100 people and to fist bump instead of shaking handsafter they just grappled for 5 minutes|0 Keep that little dick squirt off the air ffs|0 I mean a real one with my own eyes not a recording or fake representation Big Italy wants me to believe|1 Only temporarily Another assumption it hasnt been proven Youre talking about theory There are areas of China now that have lifted their quarantines with no further transmission|0 Speaking from experience here prison is no place to be sick Viruses spread too damn quick in an enclosed environment That plus extremely inadequate medical care makes me very scared for my friends still inside|0 Article Translation Part 1 of 2Coronavirus Castiglione dAdda and Codogno in isolation Dont leave the houseThe Councilor for Welfare of the Lombardy Region Giulio Gallera asked the citizens of Castiglione dAdda and Codogno to stay in the home to avoid social contacts and not to go to the emergency room in case of suspicion of have contracted the diseaseThe request came after confirmation that there are at least three cases of Coronavirus in Lombardy a 38yearold man hospitalized in Codogno his wife and a friend both hospitalized in the Sacco hospital in Milan Another man the suspect patient zero who may have infected the 38yearold is hospitalized in Sacco and checks are underway on his state of healthTwo other people residing in Castiglione DAdda tested positive for the Coronavirus test They are the wife of the 38 year old in intensive care and a close acquaintance The two patients are currently in isolation said GalleraAs a precaution all citizens of Castiglione dAdda and Codogno are invited to stay at home and avoid social contacts For those who experience flu symptoms or respiratory problems the peremptory indication is not to go to the emergency room but to contact directly the number 112 which will evaluate each situation and activate specific routes for transport to the healthcare facilities or to eventually carry out the necessary tests home Here are all the indications to understand how to protect yourself and the answers to all the questions about the Coronavirushttpswwwcorriereitsalutemalattieinfettivecardscoronavirusqualisonosintomicomesitrasmettecomecisipuoproteggerecomesitrasmettecoronavirusprincipaleshtml note translation in following comment belowGallera added that most of the contacts of people who tested positive for Coronavirus have been identified and subjected to the necessary investigations and measures|1 What rich people are paying their medical debt|1 A 2 CFR is undoubtedly huge and have global implications However that number can be biased in multiple ways I tend not to raise alarm about it since we really just do not know what what an accurate number is and wont until much later on It creates weird scenarios where people do reasonably panic at higher estimates or are relieved at lower ones ie 2 CFR is a much better number than 15 or 50 and vice versaRegardless it should be a concern given that 1 we know that it is fairly infectious given R0 estimates and how it has spread in China 2 there are reports of asymptomatic transmission 3 25 of the cases end up severe 4 there are incidents of H2H transmission outside of China 5 this is an entirely novel virus that we do not have any immunity to and know very little about These are things that are not easily disputable and should cause concern Not quite as biting of a line as 56 fatality rate but still incredibly damaging|0 I agree Its honestly appalling to me that no one are taking this seriously at least in my circle of friends and family They avoided reading the news theyre in a denial limbo where they think that this is just a normal flu This is a NOVEL virus for which we do not have vaccines available to protect us And yes some of the infected ones have milder symptoms and there are recovered cases BUT that doesnt mean that you would have mild symptoms too for when you get infected|0 Also most of those people probably do not reside in SF so they will have to be either transported to isolation back to their homes or accommodated on land in California But sure no plane this time yeah|0 They are the paid sick leave is for their retail employees|0 He looked terrible at his address on Wednesday|0 uiYzk can we remove this user from the sub They have not contributed anything meaningful and are downplaying a serious issue|0 North Americans are too used to the worlds problems being someone elses problem No one I know is talking any of this stuff seriously A guy at work just booked a vacation to Cancun for next week Hell theres still plenty of toilet paper on the shelves|0 call your guy to keep at least 2 weeks worth of drugs stockpiled|1 I wish I werent too old to move elsewhere The USA is but a skeleton of its former self There is no pride here anymore Our racist past is backing an infant terrible|0 You cant just force foreign nationals to stay in your country unfortunately but other countries could easily block flights arriving from Italy or screen passengers as they arrive|0 Its exactly what happened in the Washington DC water crisis scandalLoads of people got sick and died because of the CDCs inaction2 months afterwords the CDC gave each other awardsIts what the government does|0 I am subbed there too This sub I think fills a different niche by allowing more informal posts It is for the most part an attractive facet of the community but an entirely hands off mod approach does not work either as is seen with the skew towards more alarmist posts recently|1 Oh boy let me tell you i personally know people who are touching surfaces all over the place than going to wash their hands and literally just proceed to touch the same surfaces again When i point it out i get the responce What I just washed my hands so im good Like my grandpa used to say Stupid stays stupid there is no pill for that|0 Great postthx|1 Explain where I have said I know better What I have done is compare advice from experts around the world and examined what does seem to be working so that I can make and informed judgement on how I personally can take action to protect the vulnerable The information I have access to is the information provided by each government to the general public Of course they might all be wrong This is a new virus which we are all not just the experts slowly learning about Im not sure I understand your anti vax question or how its relevant Is it because you want to further evaluate my mindset to judge if my opinions are valid If so let me put your mind at ease when I assure you that I am certainly not anti vax and will quite happily insult those that are along side you |1 I mean if they had actually imposed draconian israelsingaporelike mass quarantine everywhere instead of what theyre doing nowI mean if the risk of death from economic catastrophe is worse than silently letting the virus spread and not telling people in attempting to reduce panic I guess I would understand their logic more|0 Please dont kink shame me|1 OrRich and powerful people Oooh Pretty test That was entertainingOthers |1 Except for YOU You are smart You are amazing Slay queen|1 Too cool to be scared|0 Huh I didnt know that about the Dallas Stars Cool that the team name still makes sense with Texas being the Lone Star State and all|1 Im pretty sure they are referring to thathttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf91myrnewanalysisof50kpatientsfinds48morality|1 The reason Italians cant even walk their streets right now without getting arrested is because they refused to believe in the seriousness of this virusIf you keep trying to live like you always have going out wiping your dirty nose with your sleeve sneezing on your shoes coughing into your handsWe will be on lockdown in AmericaStay the fuck inside and take up a goddamned hobby Even if you just got to drink yourself through the next monthjust keep that shit to yourself|0 I tried that on the hardest most realistic difficulty Got all the known symptoms early Was absolutely curbstomped Few hundred million infections outside the epicentre the game pretty much laughed at me lol|1 Yes Close the northern boarded too Santa travels all over who knows that hes got Joking aside be safe our neighbors to the north We will come visit when this is all over|1 The masks are for prevention to not get sick in case anyone is a carrier|1 Good job Walmart|1 Reminds me of the NBA player that was laughing about the virus and touching all of the mics then ended up getting the coronavirus|1 I am going to move next week from north to south UK and already bought some ffp2 masks for situations like those at least I have some less Chances to get the virusAnyway Its a scandal that there are no checks at airports Only Italy seems to do that in their airports|0 Either way there isnt enough testing to give accurate numbers they are released now 1372 and 35 deaths considering they are only testing seriously affected there is likely to be a higher deaths to cases ratio than what really exists Which I think in itself is causing panic|0 My fear is not that I wont have a doctor its that she will be preterm|0 BECAUSE IM SARED SHITLESS OK osterholm on rogan said iu get it by breathing httpsthehillcompolicyhealthcare487110testsindicatecoronaviruscansurviveintheair RoganOsterholm interview118 153 530 802 first of all the primary mechanism of transmission is just the respiratory route Its just breathing1129 and 3537 just breathing is all u need to do imho dont go indoorspermanent organ damage brains CNS testes lungs and so no young ppl in ICUs in france YOUNG HEALTHY PPL IN their 30s in china supposedly recovered who cant walk at normal pace anymore due to lung damage that happened many months ago now second wave is more harmful than the first if i wait out both waves i can wait till herd immunity happens and infected goes permanently low instead of peaking at 20 in mayjune i live in a tiny 1750 sqft house with 5 other guys 6 guys total avg american house size 2600 sqft avg american household 252 people httpswwwstatnewscom20200306werelearningalotaboutthecoronavirusitwillhelpusassessrisk80 of the transmission in China was in family clusters some health reporter said on MSNBC clip someone tweeted almost dying of adultonset firsttime allergic asthma 6 yr ago uninsured america handling the crisis poorly compared to other countries|0 The risk remains low|0 Absolutely not This guy was on room air for most of his stay on nasal cannula O2 for a couple days He received what were likely nontherapeutic antibiotics and antivirals His treatment was fever control with over the counter drugs Frankly if hed never gone to hospital he almost certainly would have been perfectly fine|1 There are many officers tried to suppress the information mainly from Wuhan City and Hubei Province Most of these officers know nothing about medical science all they care about is economy and social stability When the first cases occurred they didnt realize the severity The officers misjudged that the virus does not spread from human to human as most other swine flus and avian flus And they were afraid that if this info was spread it would be bad for economy So they ordered all doctors to be silent about this So the spread began in China and other cities found that something was wrong and reported to central govt Then the govt sent 2 or 3 groups to investigate in Wuhan I dont know why local officers were still hiding the truth even to the central govt back then but they failed Once knowing the truth central govt did all the lockdown things and replaced many local officersChina central govt has no intention to hide information they simply didnt know either before Jan 20 Chinese people hate those officers as well I dont know if its ok to blame CCP for all of it Its your judgements to make|0 If youre worried about your tp supply wash yourself in the shower Its similar to a bidet|0 High uncertainty data is all we have at the moment Its a shaky start but it allows the better quality data to be fed in and updated as and when it becomes available|1 I agree I would think spraying the infected people would be more effective but probably not ideal|0 I have a powdered rhino dick to sell you Its got antioxidants|0 NYC residents good luck but dont try to escape Running spreads the disease We dont want you upstate You vote against the rest of the state and we dont have the hospital space for you Try going to New Jersey maybe they want you|1 When the wild animals are pangolins bats civet cats etc Yes they should be banned esp those live markets Its a breeding factory for lethal viruses Just like SARS and COVID19 came about|1 Sure yet its good to know oneself Well played|1 Delivery in less than half an hour or else free|1 Medical manufacturing here iv bag production Were not being tested atm Once we do get a case expect product recalls down time from cleaning down time from training new procedures testing for employees only having healthy employees work Were so fucked|0 Kinda fucked up that the price for life saving measures is so outrageous At least a large part of Europe has universal health care so theres that|0 I believe uReginaldJohnston is asking what the actual risk is then|0 Seems reasonable but honestly when I see the Washington post I immediately assume they have an agenda|1 We love free shit|1 Also certain vitamins can help a lot mentally and physically I take LLysine for immunity support and vitamin D because there is little sunshine where I live between Oct and AprilMay and its very depressing Im not worried about myself but my step dad is in his 80s and has Parkinsons so Im hoping my mom is keeping good watch over his health |1 I just ended up on a government list multiple times Seriously I have N100 masks NO one will take them In China they asked for medical supplies I am being laughed at our elderly autoimmune compromised etc are at risk and apparently I am stupid because instead of trying to hijack supplies and sell them on eBay or Amazon I am trying to ensure people are ok|0 Seriously what a piece of shit cunt|0 Kemp says there is no community spreadLITERALLY contradicted on the CDCs website where they list multiple states with sustained community spread|0 Id think all of DC would be at risk Their entire job is meeting with other people|0 But dude this was your year to win the floor routine|1 Screw that guy What he did was reckless and stupid I wish the NBA would fine him|0 wear masks not hoard it lol and wash hands and you guys will deal this pandemic safely|1 Chuckle Im in danger|0 They are sold in pond water purifying devices in the west otherwise not so easy to findThey can burn skin and eyes so handle with care|1 this is the start of something fucking dangerous and im not talking about the virus im well up for riots if u boys are|0 It is important that you remember to wash your hands regularly it can have major impact on the spread but it is also important to wash them righthttpswwwwhointgpsccleanhandsprotectionenrcleanhandgang|1 Yes everyone on Reddit has known this for WEEKS Weve been trying to tell others for ages tooIf the others were on Reddit that was pointless|1 Definitely not a scientist here totally do not understand anything written here but curious as to whether or not we know if this virus can be spread via water either from aerosol or droplets contaminating waterIs this only a concern with fresh water What about chlorinated pool water Questions and concerns already creeping into my business sphere regarding public health and community pools fountains etc Apologies if this isnt something that makes sense frankly I dont even know how to ask about it|1 Hes 48 not 70 they would still treat him|1 The federal response has been worthless the CDC seems to be doing the best it can despite roadblocks by the admin|1 But trump said its going to disappear soon|0 Your city right now is like Wuhan one month ago Your city in one month will be like Wuhan is right now|1 Websters defines it differently conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities as in matters of sex or race should be eliminatedYou could certainly argue that they are trying to not offend the political sensabilities of the ChineseEdit Wikipedia defines it asPolitical correctnessorPCfor short means usingwordsthat will not offend any group of peopleI understand your definition but that is a very modern cherry picked version of PC It usually is just used to say not offending certain political groups I doubt the definition you provided would have existed even 10 years ago It has a broader meaning for sure Anyone can be offended not just groups that are marginalizedWHO not wanting to offend the Chinese as a ethnic group by declaring them as the starters of a pandemic and thus probably causing racial bias could certainly be viewed as a PC path Though I dont agree that is what is happening I think that they are just getting paid off personally|0 No idea haha Im just a layman with a limited grasp on nutrition I was just trying to understand the summary and thought it was a great example of how easy it is for even medical writers and especially journalists to accidentally publish articles based on misunderstood research|1 Leaving the infection growing in the lungs unattended Probably not a good idea|0 True Im just having a hard time working out the calorie requirements Turns out a 25lb bag of rice is just barely over a weeks worth at 2kday Thats just for one male|1 I had a moment like this with my family I called my siblings and explained my concerns to them but they seem apprehensive to consider it might get a little weird for a while When I called my mom to talk with her she listened calmly asked questions and agreed to buy the items on a list I was going to send herIt felt so good to be heard and made me feel much more at ease knowing theyd have some basics available While it can be scary to have others share your concerns it take a huge weight off your chest when you dont feel alone|1 I only recently just discovered his videos but he is a great educator for both medical professionals and non professionals regarding updates on the virus I love that he states where he is getting the information from that he is sharing as well Very transparent|1 The italian that the 38 year old who returned from China had dinner with was Italys first known patient and the one in severe condition The man returning from China here was thought to be patient zero but his tests have all come back negative and his blood shows that he has no antibodies to the virus as well implying that he never had it So it is not known wherefrom whom the Italian man picked up the virus Does that help explain it I was confused at first too haha Edited to fix my dumb grammarEdited to correct nationality labelThe plot thickens|0 there are cases when young people die also there are 1200 people in critical condition means they will die without medical help hospitals dont have place i guess a lot of people died and not counted you are heavily downplaying the virus|0 If you dont qualify for EI and dont have a rainy day fund I would talk to your landlord and explain the situation maybe hell give you a grace period If he doesnt then yes stop paying rent evictions are paused right now so he wont be able to kick you outWith regards to food try the local food bank Also rock up on cheaper staples like rice and beans that can last for a while and give you the needed nutrients Good luck and sorry that youre going through this|1 To be fair being the only one on the street you should be safe The disease is not air borne|1 Ok well thats comforting|1 This is terrifying|0 Dude by the time your old hell by the time your in your mid twenties any investments youve made today will have grown drastically Just look at the house crash2008 recession we had a record longest ever11 year bull market that i belive grew over 400 since then and growing economy and this crazy corona bug is literally the only reason it ended well theres obviously more to it than that but its hard to argue that its not the main driving force Shit will be crazy for a little bit people not knowing how to react and process this virus are going to keep this weird for a bit but soon enough things will be moving forward again|0 Ah yes the before times When the CLO man ruled over us all and we had to escape to the dark zone|1 Best source for demographics age out of South Korea to see who is seriously and critically ill vs not hospitalized The China reports showed a chunk of 4060 year olds getting seriously ill even though more rarely dying Just looking for more data Thanks a ton|1 The three countries are the Rupert Murdocommonwealth Our shared pains and dramas over nothing are not a random coincidence|0 Im not really listening to every live event and such more so waiting for actions to be taken As of now closing the schools and in Toronto closing restrauntsbars is a good start but not good enough Nothing is good enough at this point in time Especiaply when we are near vulnerable people Still lots of spread to be out there with such minimal actionsEdit mind you the sloth like actions dont help Its like watching a drunk driver slowly swerve all over trying to avoid things until a crash|1 And get denied by your CC after they complete their investigation and side with the cancellation policies you agreed to And if the chargeback is big enough they can terminate all of their accounts with you if they think youre too much of a risk Telling others to file chargebacks on policies they agreed to is just bad advice Come on over to rcreditcards for more information|0 Thats why Im crying I was sick for two days and now I have so many assignments to catch up on by tonight and a test to take tomorrow and a quiz after that I remember there was a hurricane and my close friend was like Im so excited classes are cancelled Yeah well my deadlines dont change The power could be out for weeks and theyd ask me why I didnt write my 10 page research paper on my phone|1 I hope surviving family members hold these leaders accountable At all levels of government From local state or province and federal As well as those idiot like bobble headed people that stand behind our leaders as they spew verbal diarrhea as well|1 Ever use public transport in a big city Its like that every day|1 People would riot in the US if the government were to impose such restrictions|0 There is this thing called solidarity towards your fellow humans I would work night shift in mask producing factory if that helped save lives of others|1 Concentration camps Not sure youve got the definition right on that one|0 Cant blame them tbh everyone is so scared|0 How quickly does ACE2 recover from nicotine absorption Would smoking pipe tobacco or a cigar every once in a great while make a significant difference as compared to a never smoker What if it was recently consumed but then not again for a couple of weeks Im curious how ACE2 responds to the very occasional nicotine user Also is inhalation of smoke into the lungs required for the effect of some resistance to becoming infected Cigar smokers dont inhale is why I ask Ive never smoked cigarettes|1 Its a virus but not a flu virus The coronavirus can attack or causes your immune system to attack the lungs which leads to swelling fluid filling up the lungs inability to get air It also attacks other organs The symptom of this attack on the lungs is called pneumoniaSevere pneumonia requires a tube to be inserted down the patients throat into their lungs that pushes oxygen into the parts of the lung that still work Fluid may need to be pumped out as well The patient is given medication that stops their own muscles from gagging and reacting to the tube essentially paralysing them or at least the chest and throatIn the cases that are closer to death a machine called an ECMO is used This is like a kidney dialysis machine which does the work of a kidney in a huge expensive machine it takes the blood out of the body oxygenates it like the lungs and pushes it back into the body There are very few of these machines to be shared amongst a large number of patientsOther diseases have the symptom effect of pneumonia breathing problems but they arent the same disease People use the word pneumonia to describe what is wrong with someone but actually its the outcome of a disease|0 Ill still blame the ones following them Id have gone to jail|0 The lack of media out of China for the past 3 weeks give us the answer They were already fudging numbers but after midFeb the new footageimages out of Wuhan especially just ceasedIll take Things that make you go hmm for 250 please|1 I cant turn back time and tell them not to have kids in unstable home environments cant tell them to turn back time and create better opportunities for themselves to ensure their future children would be secure Thats my frustration I want to yell but I dont A lot of times things are out of your controlWhats important is the children and the opportunity theyre given|1 small but successful american company Yeah the problem with small companies is it isnt economical to have multiple independent supply chains in case this happens Larger companies would be able to take the hit and move manufacturing and sourcing for some stuff|1 Well yeah But the bills and rent dont stop and I mostly live paycheck to paycheck I can swing another week or two of this but not much more I have no health insurance either so I cant get help if I get very sick|0 If the markets are fake why do you expect reality to affect it That said it is still difficult to believe they are that fake it really reminds of of bitcoin nearing 20k when every day is a new ATH|0 He hasnt been held accountable for any of his lies or corruption Why should things change now|0 Its like that post from yesterday If they told you out of these 100 skittles 3 of them will kill you you wouldnt take those odds Youd stay clear of the skittles|0 I knew it capitalism bad|0 So funny watching all these naive basic bitch default sub redditors coming in here thinking this entire thing wasnt staged and broadcast by the government This is such a beautiful spontaneous expression my ass The people who fall for this are the very definition of useful idiotsThen they accuse people like us of not knowing China The irony|1 thats one of the points which infuriates me the mostesp those of us who have seen whats been going on in china iran italy etc this is not a situation that needed to turn out this way a lot of deaths could have been avoided|0 We do have some surge capacity but not a lot There are reserves of ventilators and PPE but whether or not there is enough is anyones guess Canceling elective surgeries would be the first place to pick up beds but we would run out of isolation rooms quickly Frighteningly there is not going to be enough protective equipment to protect staff Most masks come from China This video shows some mathematical modeling thats pretty scary httpsyoutube3etuaYTDwFI|0 Yo so Im planning a 14 day trip to San Fran and Los Angeles Im from BC Canada This is all booked APR 1115 Is this going to be a colossal problem by then Am I going to have troubles Is Disneyland likely to be closedForgive me I admittedly am only starting to pay attention to this bitch of a virus today Im woefully uninformed and just want to hear some opinions understanding that they are just that opinions|0 Lets hope he inspires more leaders to be like him|1 Your comment only makes any sense if you ignore the part of my comment you left off on purpose because youre a dumbassTons of milder cases than that are convalescing at homeYoure being an asshole just because you cant read youre misrepresenting my comment because youre a spicy little bitch baby|0 An N95 wont save you The N95 mask filters out particles 03 microns and larger The coronavirus is 012 microns|0 Thank you for this My daughter and then I had something that matched coronavirus symptoms earlier this winter and everyone i know has been telling me im crazy for saying its been in the US much longer than thought Id totally believe we got it on the first wave if what you said about epidemics coming in waves is true|1 Wow|1 Everytime I have been to a supermarket it has been fine except toilet roll I went to my local sainsburys express this morning and it was fully stocked All these photos just seem to be freaking people out more|0 The message is the same too Theres a great recent TEDx Talk that touches on the subject As long as human industry keeps encroaching on foreign ecosystems new strains of viruses and diseases will continue to surface This isnt the last outbreak well see in our lifetimesNotice the logo on the crane at the end of Contagion Its the same logo of the company for which Gwyneth Paltrows character serves as an executive Shes also the first to go in the film|1 Yes there will likely be needs for this People are organizing in the slack channel Please check it out|1 Ive worked from home for 20 years This comment pretty much nails it Separation is the biggest thing One other thing Id add especially in the current environment people are going to understand when things happen So when the dog barks or the baby cries or whatever people will understand Even before this crisis a few weeks ago I was on a conference call with an executive at a very large company who was working from home About halfway through the call her dogs went nuts She was very embarrassed and kept apologizing over and over but the truth is that no one judged her for it Its not the end of the world|0 What a mess|0 Bet theyre wishing they hadnt kept stalling that hospital from being built in Lee Co nowGranted it wasnt going to be a big one but it certainly wouldve been helpful to have now|1 How many of us burned ourselves as children after being warned not to touch the stovepanoven because it was HOT Unfortunately adults arent much better at understanding the consequences of their actions when face with new and unknown experiences Your classmate is not alone people all over the country behaved like idiots this weekend and ignored the warnings of the consequencesWe should not take joy or satisfaction in what is about to happen to so many of these people They do not deserve to get infected just because they wanted to have a nice weekendYour classmate is young and foolish perhaps But no one alive has ever experienced anything like whats about to happen Its difficult to comprehendThe world is going to be difficult enough in the coming weeks we will need to be patient kind and compassionate towards those who are not able to fully comprehend what is happening if we are to save as many live as we can It will not help to shame and ostracize themYour classmate needs help Be kind|1 I wonder if postponing a lockout or school closure has to do with the possible financial burden on some families not being able to get caretakers during the day and even then there wouldnt be enough of them to handle the load and it would still put kids at risk if they ended up in a daycare situation instead A school closure would effectively be asking kids to stay home either supervised or unsupervisedIn the event that they need supervision it would be good to give a basic income for people who need to pay bills and look after their kids If their job is important to the supply chain though it could potentially cause further strain in that area which could be a problem if there is a full quarantine and lockdownI guess its kind of a complicated issue but it looks like theyre trying to time it a certain way but also gamble on things not going really bad which I think it will The lazy and likely plan is they expect everyone to come in contact and for the weak to die Thats just what it looks like to me so prep and take care of yourselves if you can help it|1 German efficiency|1 We could start by raising the minimum wage to a modern number|1 Im sorry to hear that 242 people have been reported dead This is quite the departure from yesterday These last two days throw off any predictability for those creating formulas to estimate tomorrows numbers|0 In the course of about a week Ive watched this sub devolve into memes malign misinformation and just baldfaced ignorance People have told me four times in one thread that panic buying bottled water at Costco today in SoCal was for earthquake preparedness Because now all of a sudden this weekend people have taken an interest in seismic events Riiiiiight|0 My sons school district is not closing because theres no confirmed cases in county but how are we going to have confirmed cases when no one is fucking testing Its so stupid|0 Im a leftist and a lot of my friends are as well and the general consensus among us is that China needs to pay for what theyve done Everyones always frothing at the mouth over bs Russia conspiracies when China is probably our biggest threat right now They absolutely need to be held accountable Their lies their negligence their censorship and their general inaction in regulating their people in the first place got thousands killed and hundreds of thousands sick Its decimated our economy and will bankrupt a lot of our citizensOtherwise its just a matter of time before they release the next pandemic on the rest of the world and we have to deal with this all over again|0 Yeah absolutely that would be nice|1 It seems like a genuine product Has hologram sticker on front and the 30 box of filters I purchased from a credible hardware site match the filters the respirator came with exactly I understand your cause for concern as fake mask are more dangerous than helpful but this seller was selling a lot of stock prior to the panic as I purchased in January before mask resellers came into the picture Example I purchased 2x 100 surgical masks for 5 at the same time I only paid 7 for the respirator at the time as well|0 Looks awesome ucoronavirustracker if possible I would add a column for new cases and then a column for total cases like you have now for each city with casesIt makes it easier to see the numbers changing over time per areaGreat job though Awesome programming|1 Another one that absolutely shits on the CCP numbers The chances of a 2 death rate disease taking out both her parents is 004Ive seen a few of these now Amongst 800 deathsWorlds about to get a shock|0 Imagine what would happen if the US tried to implement a law like in Italy where if confirmed cases break quarantine they can be charged with homicide|1 Youre right Take it as a warning and confirmation of how fucked we are and take it as a bit more extra time before everyone begins to really panic|0 I think the presidents excitement about the stock market record today made the answer to that clear Priorities|1 I heard they were forcing doctors to work triple shifts and threatening to take their medical licenses if they refused|0 Its because this virus has not shown an ability to serious hurt anyone who isnt East Asian Not even a single Indian has needed intensive care and they are a nation of similar population but much poorer Meanwhile first world health care systems and people with much better hygiene than India or China like Japan and Singapore are dealing with mounting severe and critical casesIf you want to make sense of senseless news this is the key This explains why this extremely infectious and harmful virus doesnt seem to do anything outside of East Asian populations Also likely why were not getting panic in the West Somebody knows about this trend but isnt talking about it|1 THANK YOU|1 They only care about themselves and not shit the 327m Americans|1 Yes that was meant for homemade cloth masks|1 If countries around the world value the virus perhaps the virus will only spread in ChinaIts all in hindsightChina has sacked any officials who negligence of duty in the outbreakMaybe western countries should do the same|1 Yes Journalists also need to demand the government provide the data they are using for their modelling and the modelling they are doing so other scientists can look at it and critique it and explain it to everyone It seems horrible that they are taking such drastically different action to all other countries and are just saying theyre guided by the science without actually presenting what that science is in detail so that the many many scientists around the world can have a look at it I mean if they have worked out some crazy different strategy that is way better than other countries the WHO the ECDC etc surely it is only right to make that available to everyone so they too can stop banning gatherings and let the virus spread in order to save lives|1 waves Hi fellow cautious soul Doing the same thing over here in California nitrile gloves and wiping down deliveries I have a 10day quarantine area for non perishable deliveries My neighbors sure are looking but it gives me a probably false sense of control and peace of mind|1 immunity is practically a guarantee regardless of whether mutation occurs hint it does constantly Everything that science knows about viruses tells us this Do you remember when people who recovered from Ebola volunteered to take care of sick people Thats because EXPOSURE TO A VIRUS CONFERS IMMUNITY If exposure to covid19 did not confer immunity this would mean we have to totally rewrite the textbook on viruses its sooo vanishingly small a chance that its certainly not worth panicking over and spreading misinformation and fear Please stop|1 ive sent a letter to my MP encourage everyone else to get into contact with them our response is literal insanity by the very definition of the word|0 I said we need to quarantine ourselves ie we should have shut things down a month ago and that we started too late Go back and reread what I wrote I simply do not want to laud a government that infected the entire world That is no reason to go around calling people fucking idiots We are all suffering in our own ways whether economically via investments or health wise It is a time of stress and naturally people will express themselves|0 Are you prepared for the lazy idiot who doesnt bother putting on the epoxy coating and then after using it gives it to his mom Or what about the idiot who substitutes one glue for another and ends up breathing large quantities of toxic fumes Or what if it stops working when theyre sleepingSeriously dont fuck around with this You know damn well that its gonna be used primarily by americans who dont wanna go to the hospital and end up in debt|0 Guess the survivors will do the bodycount after the dust settlesIncidentally it would be really interesting to somehow figure out how many people in Hubei ACTUALLY died of something else while being Sars2 positive I know Italy isnt really separating those cases in Lombardy right now if you die while positive you died of covid|0 Same here we have stocked up on everything we can that helps the immune system Bone broth is fantastic and cheap to make and easy to keep a lot of on hand|1 you really wanna risk permanent lung and other organ damage just on the low chance that you might get to oneup some people if you end up right Highly unlikely you end up right btw this thing spreads nearly as well as measles without a vaccine|0 My university here in the UK Imperial is still planning for exams to still be occuring in May and June still planning for lectures and clinical placements to be continuing as usual while making no preparations for the inevitable increase in cases Its just shocking how supposed educated people and highly valued institutions teaching medical subjects who should know better are not doing the right thing to help combat this virus|1 Its not so much the death rate or what people with it live per say Its the workload that will be put on the health care system on a short period of time And that has nothing to do with a bad flu|0 LOL thanks yes|1 No but you can clearly see how the lungs are affected by the virus|1 I can help looks like your insurance doesnt cover this Thatll be 3218httpswwwnytimescom20200229upshotcoronavirussurprisemedicalbillshtml Will that be cash or card|1 YES South Koreas President has been asking EVERYONE to wear one and upping production to make sure they have enough BECAUSE IF EVERYONE WEARS ONE IT SLOWS THE SPREAD|1 Foldit and its player community has done what algorithms couldnt before httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3705907I guess an ai could be built by feeding it player behavior but that in itself is no easy task|1 I think you are pushing harder than the actual threat of the virus With ulterior motives|0 No test fewer infections to report Its a fake sense of security that will come crashing down on people who think the US is immune It is not|0 Most poeple in this sub are not medical professionals so they will use the common use words Many people here are also not native english speakers and can easily comflate the termsEarly February is when i got my masks and yes they were easily obtainable then It is not the same thing now thoughA FFP3 dental mask is indeed more effective than a N95 as N95 would be equivalent to the FFP2 standardI agree that even regular mask will have advantage over wearing nothing the contention seems to be about what level is required for guaranteed protection This is why all the talks about masks dont help dont wear anything infuriates me That being said looking at this studyhttpsacademicoupcomannweharticle547789202744 it seems that homemade masks arent really usefulHah i have respect for people who know Latin I wish i knew how to speak that Unfortunatelly for me its only Lithuanian English and a bit of German Im not good at languagesWishing best health for you and your familySame to you|1 So many people are looking to Trump for direction Of these people many will die and it will be directly related to the language he is using Take this to heart we need to be frank and open This man is right now putting millions of lives in jeopardy through pride arrogance and criminal negligence How we dont have tests 10 weeks after the world learned of this threat is mind boggling and will cost lives and billions of not trillions of dollars|0 Correct with a viral infection that your immune system fought off it would be years before your body would have lost its ability to fight another infection from the same virus The only kink in that is if the virus is mutating it is possible that a mutated version might be just different enough that it could reinfect someone with the newly mutated virus|0 Had to have a major fight with my wife to get her to listen to me Really fucking sucked Ive been flexible on a lot of things but not when it comes to safety She ended up apologizing and coming around Seeing people get welded into their homes probably had something to do with itEdit to add archive linkhttpsarchivenothingburgertodayVideosInfectedorDeadutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf graphic warning of China videos Edit not my work found this link in another comment thread last week|0 A little late much like the governments response|1 For less than 5 dollars a month i have access to the Washington Post for a yearIt also came with a digital subscription to share with someone elseIt was so cheap i not only bought one for myself but also for a random redditor who was having a rough ChristmasQaulity journalism isnt free nor is it even remotely expensive to access|0 I read a study on a different sub that took swabs on hospital staff PPE after going in patient isolation roomsThere was a small amount of the virus on the top of a shoe but none on the soles That made me feel a little better YMMV if you use public restrooms public transportation or places where people use the street instead of the toilet|1 AlcoholBased Hand Sanitizer Hand Hygiene CDChttpsimgurcomv81oYeW|1 Only child in poor household built a love of reading and learning I love documentary history books though I will admit I tend to read more fiction than non I love politics from the history perspective Unfortunately though it does mean Im more aware of some of the awful things my country has done which in turn has made me more empathic If I was quarantine for say something insane like 6 months as long as bills were paid and I had my PC I would be reading and playing video games lol|1 Nope It definitely doesnt stop people getting the virus But hopefully were less likely do develop serious pneumonia as a result|1 Same deal here she just came back from NYC Thursday and was in the same terminal as that fucking moron that got banned from JetBlueDoctor blew her off and said no way shes sick if she didnt talk to him Kept trying to tell her its an anxiety attack even though we were playing monopoly and totally calm before she had the worst chest pains shes ever experienced They even had to put her on oxygen at the ER|0 They may expect to be paid in favors|1 Disgusting clearly not dedicated enough Fire hims obv|0 Pffft good luck trying to enforce that rule|1 I understand that this is difficult situationBut I hope you understand that our medical systems are simply not capable to deal with all moderate cases in hospitalsIts quite likely that after testing you would be simply sent home for selfquarantine anywayI dont think few months is what you need It seemed that people in China were getting released after 12 months MAXWhat is your living situation Do you have multiple rooms Do you have multiple bathroomsI do agree your situation is especially difficult so getting tested indeed would help|1 The CDC just said they expect community transmission in the United States at some point this year or next Youre just misinformed|1 Good my EE country cdc just said its less infectios then regular flu and risk of getting it is very low we are always behind 2 months on latest news|0 They are going to lose 50 percent of their audience to this Old people in bad heslth is their core audience|0 I wish I could work from home my job is mostly a physical spot filler job Gotta get parts for mechanics and issue them out|1 I just think its weird that would be a social status object at a middle school I know nothing about the company or the product|0 It does make the experience less gruesome Also what if someone gets the flu during the coronavirus outbreak and cannot find medication What if a baby dies from a very high fever|0 For some health conditions we do provide antibiotic prescriptions to be cashed in when needed but it tends to be 2 weeks or so maximum I would guess these patients would all be cashing them in now regardless for fear of stock issuesThis is conditions such as cystic fibrosis severe recurrent bronchitis etc|0 THIS DOES NOT MEAN PANIC BUY For the love of god save some for everyone else|1 I have an iPhone and theres an Emergency Contact option in your contacts go to a fave contact and look for itAnyone who you put as a Emergency Contact can be called from the lock screenI have all the close family members linked up to Emergency Contacts so my kids can call them if neededYou also label who they are to you spouse sister mother EtcPretty handy|0 I mean they literally clarified it at the end If you live yourself and you get a cough you self isolate for 7 days If you live with others and one of them shows symptoms then everyone else needs to isolate for 14 days to give time to get the virus then get over it|0 Someone else mentioned cleaning your phone so I got out the wipes and started to scrub I have a rubber case and the wipe was black Ive ordered a new one on Amazon|1 Imagine the 60 day panic buying We are being eased into it Also the 50 of ding dongs trying to go out to eat and going to the beach tells us how this is going to play out in a prolonged fashion|1 Ive found that city and local subreddits often contain some of the pettiest and most closedminded individuals|0 Wtf I know I am a loser who sits on Reddit all the time but I was shocked by the reaction of coworkers in Oregon at a staff meeting on Friday Absolutely no clue|0 Illnesses with a high mortality rate dont really have high transmission rates They seem to kill their hosts too quick and arent as effective at multiplying Think rabies you have to have direct contact with the saliva on your blood Vs norovirus which is super easily transmitted 10 of my direct family all caught it last year within 36 hours but has a super low mortality rate Seems like you can only pick one or the other|1 People shouldnt bother with a click Its blog spam The second paragraph is entitled is the CDC retarded Dont bother with this guy|0 No I understand how they workIm assuming worst case scenario where all deductions etc are suspended and we are all operating at marginal|0 Im glad to have met someone in a similar situation as me It sounds like not that many people are taking time off from our warehouse That really concerns me The only thing that worries me is whether Ill still have my job at the end of the month lol Ive been there 2 years and was an Ambassador but you never know|1 Just wait until next week We are doomed|0 Same antiantimatter you have inspired me I am going to drop them off at my local AE in about an hour 15x FFP3 masks bought some time ago and will see what they have to say|1 Threefold Supplies for if youre sick and need to selfquarantine As a large number of population needs to do this at the same time strain on supply emerges making products scarce Factories and other businesses that make the world go round will be coming to a halt affecting the entire chain of distribution across the planet Stock will be severely limitedBONUS Stock market crash as a result of previous scenarios|0 Well It still kinda is|1 The same reasons you want to know for other diseases|1 Sometimes I get the feeling that everyone that are at the cusp of a producing a vaccine or a state of the art detection method for the Corona virus are are the same people that claim some new battery technology or applyable graphene product that would revolutionize the world for the last 10 years Were still waiting|1 Im fortunate because my county has a large population of very wealthy old retired people They live comfortable lives in little beach side houses without external threats of any sort So this virus has them scared to death and they are acting quickly I cant believe that my little county is reacting more strongly than places like SeattleGood luck in Texas try to stay safe|1 Always be ready incase you ass wants to sneeze|0 people lieI get your point though I am in Australia and 125 people here are either Chinese born or Chinese descent Most are good However the students very often pay others to write the work and there was a big scandal at Sydney University where they were given a final exam under exam conditions and they failed The Chinese consulate tried to bully the university to let them pass Problems what is my degree worth if others can buy them Did they actually sit for IELTS test to come study here or was it someone else Having completed a degree here they are entitled to articulate to residency and citizenship And this is where I agree with you what is their intention since they evidently dont know the course work since they paid someone else to do it for them We have 25 million people here China can send 25 million over 20 years and then They could vote on things that might not be in Australias best interest And then there are those bothersome reeducation camps|1 Minimum wage with a workforce consisting of mostly 1822 year olds vs potential careers that pay living wage and employ responsible adults|1 Prime minister justin trudeau is in isolation from his wife being sick and awaiting test results Trump not isolation is ignorant and will be his downfall|0 I wouldnt be surprised if the real number of infected was in the millions and the dead was in the 6 figures|0 Not just the Ottawa show the entire first part of their tour so theyre not picking on OttawaGet used to it If things continue to get worse a la Italy look for more concert cancellations and pro sports to go spectator free|1 If you have a smart phone you can do an screen Video capture|1 httpstwittercomelizashapirostatus1237414092425609216s21There will be mandatory 2week school closures in New Rochelle starting this Thursday Gov Cuomo says New Rochelle has been at the center of the outbreak in NY|1 Thoughts and Prayers are with you Italy Hoping their level of reporting can shine a light for other nations to see how serious it will get|1 Wouldve given you gold if I couldve I wish more people thought like you Ill never understand why people go out of their way to try and hurt people who are just trying their best to help them|1 I wash my hands a lot but I cant help touching my face Ill do it then Ill notice Im doing it then I get pissed off with myself lol|0 Were doing better than France Germany Spain and Italy and the USASingapore have deal with SARS over the last few yearsIn the great league table of COVID19 growth rates were in the middle of the premiershipThis graphhttpsiimgurcomedoTic6png I put together illustrates what I mean Ive aligned a load of countries by the day the had around 50 confirmed cases For comparable European countries with similar cultures were doing all right If you want draconian measures like in China Iran or Italy then the results arent what you imagine If you want face masks and other measures like Japan Hong Kong and Singapore then its still a bit of a societal change|1 Do you really think China cares about AMERICA|1 Most people who had it got immune But it mutated and second wave favoured a diffrent age group which on top of that was weakened being in trenches and being at war|0 Yeah hes the one who was vacationing in Hawaii when the wildfires happened|1 Im buying seeds I can totally see a day coming soon when all food handledpicked by others will be at risk or be quarantined Spring is almost here|0 Same Just hunker down and protect your family|1 I would be beyond angry for having been made to be quarantined to a incubation chamber that is that ship and come to find out im infected due to incompetence and bad decision making|0 The Mandalorian just because Baby Yoda is so cute that watching him do cute stuff is comforting and soothing|1 Do you guys not pay attention to are president Cause hes been limiting trade from China and dependence for over a year now|1 I am so happy and relieved|1 the assumed blame and racism thats come out of this outbreak is disgusting truly a reflection of how far our new progressive society has come people suck im so sorry this is happening to you we need to bind together as a planet as a community and rally behind the doctors and scientists desperately working to find a vaccine human power all love from california just washing my hands a bit more often until i hear more |0 I believe they are likely different issues however only Singapore that I have seen has said they have full confidence in their test kits That should be a really easy piece of info to share that would reassure the publicThe Japanese health ministers recent press release also makes me think they have worries about their current screening strategyJapanese Health Minister Katsunobu Kato says the government will develop and provide criteria for people on when and how to seek medical consultation regarding the new coronavirus Kato said in an NHK TV program on Sunday that measures need to be taken on the assumption that the virus is spreadingHe said the government will hold a meeting later in the day with experts to draw up guidelines for medical examinations for the virus httpswww3nhkorjpnhkworldennews2020021618httpswww3nhkorjpnhkworldennews2020021618I admit to reading between lines as there is limited info being shared|1 this kind of mindset is whats dangerouswe need numbers of those who are infected and tested too|0 its funny when you talk about denying science but youre the kind of people that deny the science of gender and fetus growth |1 And honestly the studies that claim ingesting silver actually does anything positive are pretty muddy|1 Literally 24 hours ago all of these people had no idea about herd immunity and assumed that their government would act to try and prevent the spread of a deadly pandemic Within no time at all suddenly they are defending a decision to deliberately infect most of the population while going directly against the strategy of the entire rest of the planet We often call people in other countries subservient to their government but we need to look closer to home We shouldnt stand for this absolute copout My nan deserves the same protection that the vulnerable people here in South Korea are getting and I wont let any smarmy cunt tell me otherwise|0 Heres a question for you would you rather have a million dollars or a penny that doubles each day for 30 daysYour lack of understanding what a geometric progression is is why youre failing to understand whats going on with the pandemic I imagine the news coming out of Italy must be baffling to you|0 I need help please anyone My wife my baby and i have been experiencing coronavirus symptoms for 2 weeks now Hospitals run viral tests and they all come out negative They deny us coronavirus testing even though my baby and wife have a 2 day fever that wont go down This is in Maryland They told us to self isolate till March 27th How am i gonna pay my bills |0 My wedding is May 16th Congratulations to your friends for going through with it I talked to my pastor and he is willing to marry us with just our immediate family so roughly 10 people on the day instead Then we will probably postpone the reception and do a redo of sorts when we can This situation sucks but Im still marrying my best friend Thats what matters|1 Only a psychotic person wants to see this virus that kills people affect a specific place Seek psychiatric help|0 Could you do a third chart with deaths but the time going to just past peak numbers for SARS and Swine FluIt would show us what the end result was for those two and give perspective for those of us that have no idea what happened in the pastGreat job and thank youEdit Just saw the zoomed out one on a comment so never mind|1 I agree with your response but it doesnt say anything about Netflix increasing profitsNow if you said that more people would subscribe or that cancellations will go down that would make sense|1 That was seriously disgusting|0 Largely Try completely People I know and care about are gonna die because of this and I guarantee a few of them will be close|1 Actually if it doubles tomorrow thats good news Means china is working on it We all know it isnt 4k infected Theres no fucking wayWhats concerning is the lack of information|1 You cant You just cantIf everyone used these subreddits maybe theyd realise the extent of this problem but people are burying their heads in the sandI cant tell whether its arrogance stupidity unwavering optimism or a combination of all Im terrified for this country|0 I am hearing good thing and not so good things about schools closing and how businesses and even regulat people are trying to stop the spread and I came upon this thread and wanted to share ehat one school is going in New York you can thank them later on Well its a great thing that nyc schools are closing but alot of nursing schools for example StPauls school of nursing in Rego Park Queens New York is refusing to close and do online courses and refusing to stop sending students to NYC hospitals to do there clinicals which means these students are bringing and spreading germs maybe even the virus itself by going to all these different hospitals all week what is the Dean of this school thinking |0 rpangolinappreciation is going to have a hard time with this one|0 For any ethanol distillation to make it safe for human consumption to say nothing of taste much care has to be taken in separating out the heads and tails to avoid methanol and other volatile compounds that dont cause inebreation but lead to a hell of a hangover as well as other nasty side effects Most alcoholics dont have the patience for it but if ones back was against the wall and sanitizers were scarce you could fairly easily make your own It just blows my mind that its not more common amongst hardcore alcoholics seeing as it would save money especially if you didnt care about taste|1 You are being a ridiculous scaremonger You should stop it|0 Thats likely in part because theyre not testing people unless severe I know a few people in the Bay Area who have covid19 symptoms have been told to self isolate but that they dont qualify for testing because they doing meet criteria of being out of the country or in contact with a known case We need more tests available to truly know if it is increasing|1 Yeah you were referencing the World Health Organization but that has nothing to do with this doctor|1 Enjoy your first day|1 No there isnt always a reason Sometimes goure just unlucky and the virus is stronger than you This is the reason why the average lifespan before modern times was around 3040 years because so many people died from even simple infections You understand if only old people died of infectious disease it wouldnt have much effect on the average lifespan in a population Nor would such bacteria or virus be effective at all since most people arent old or sick|0 Why do they wait to be asked Nice try buck passer|1 WHAT IN THE JIMNENY CRICKET FUCK|0 Certain parts of the West The governor of Massachusetts just announced measures against gatherings over 25 people and is shutting down as much as possible including no school for the next few weeks The United States is a big and complicated place and its going to hit different parts of the country differently|1 Its fucked up|0 As of today actually end of day yesterday 6001 tested 568 positive|1 Wow Wow WowThis report gives understanding as to why China has been doing what theyve been doing Watch what they do not what they say Their actions line up with a high R0 The only way to lessen the virus affect is to quarantine massive quarantine|1 We are not thankfully But its disheartening to see it being handled so badly I feel like were about to see a Katrina for people with preexisting conditions|0 Damn|0 You skipped an appointment at a hospital presumably for your own health and wellbeing just because of an off chance there could be a case of this virus there and you might contract it The odds of that happening are so minuscule its ridiculous You probably have better odds saying you didnt go because you were afraid of dying in a car accident on the way to the appointment|0 I too live in the US Its not going to be a fun couple of months for sure but things will return to normal This article helped calm me quite a bit Hope it helps you httpsslatecomtechnology202003coronavirusmortalityratelowerthanwethinkhtmlutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 Common sense any smoke in your lungs is bad|0 I hope they keep it safe in a containment area Hopefully not in Winnipeg Last time a pure sample of SARSCOV2 was accidentally spilled in the Wuhan wet market the world got itself a pandemic 3 months later|1 Why do people listen to this dumbass hes known for some stupid nitpick in a movie Get someone who actually knows This shit|0 Lots of water and fresh whole foods|1 I just took out the time component and went straight for an estimated mortality range based on their estimated casesadditionally this is an estimated number on an annual basis if an effective vaccine is not provided There isnt one for SARS yet It would represent the flu cases of the entire country in every state every season38000 to 58000 deaths per state per season|1 Disinfect hands from time to time while in school Reduces risk|0 No theres not|0 Whats the difference between a viral pneumonia and a bacterial pneumonia Is the former worse than the latter Why do the pneumonias induced by this virus so often result in intubation for 3550year olds|0 Im sorry but that article is just too dense for me to read at 3 am It is my understanding that masks are really only effective in keeping infected people from transmitting the virus and wearing one if you arent already sick isnt going to help much in keeping you from getting it Does this article confirm or deny that|0 Help me understand this I think you are using sarcasm to show how the public keeps using this as a weak statement If so I agree with you This virus is new and unpredictable It can not be compared to the flu at this point|0 WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNERYou have just disclosed why the propaganda campaigns in the USA are running in full force saying you do not need masks while the rest of the world is wearing masks saying WTF are you guys doing in America without masksSomeone show this man what he has won|1 The mask he took off is meant to protect others from him He took it off to shoot a video and smoke a cigarette indoors Hes a narcissist cunt|0 Some areas of Ryerson closed during the SARS outbreak in 03 so I would imagine theyd follow suit if it spreads here as well|1 We also have many death if i seen anything that where there is lot of death there is lack of testing|0 Weird I would have thought it may make them more comfortable|1 Conflicting reports about this Ive read that there are mild cases where symptoms are of that of a cold and nothing more with potential to escalate into pneumonia in severe cases|0 This is why the UKs bullshit herd immunity strategy wont work|0 They locked down because it might lead to a pandemic They had limited information available but had to make a decision quickly to stay ahead of the spread|0 Normally we should not attribute to malice anything that can be adequately explained by either stupidity or ignorance But the recent actions of the US government during this epidemic are very difficult to explain I have a hard time believing that anyone could be either that stupid or that ignorant|0 the largest continent the poorest continent with billions of people with spike of casesNah i dont buy it|0 Eugh no and I was just kidding lube all the way|0 What the hell|0 Im not going to claim there are no problems with migrants in Europe But you need to reevaluate your information gathering Youve fallen for antiimmigrant propaganda There are very few Islamic schools and theyre highly regulated There are no towns that have been turned into pseudostans Immigrants generally and migrants specifically also commit far less crime than the local population|0 Do you smoke Are you over 50Unless you are you dont have a lot to worry about The latest study out of China breaks down 30000 cases by age and sex|0 We have very good casestudies in Italy showing what is likely to happen if delaying measures are not taken early visavis South Korea showing what can happen when strict measures are taken in a timely fashion The key is to prevent healthcare demand from being overwhelmed This is the point where mortality risesConcur 100 There arent enough facilities or vents to support large numbers but if we are proactive it may be manageable|1 Young humans generally arent any more affected by Covid19 than the common cold In fact they are by far the least affected group Id trust your doctor Covid19 simply isnt significantly affecting young people|1 I have to agree unfortunately The Trump admin loves to push appointments through during recess sessions God knows what theyll do with an empty Capitol Just let Congress work from their offices and send their delegates to vote for them|1 Thats like the Airlines fault as well theyre the ones selling discounted flying fares people are just buying what is on sale and discounted as well Shocker|1 Well put This is what Ive been trying to say to people and am labeled either a just a flu bro type or a doomer The reality is in between The impact on the medical system will determine the outcome for so many patients With functioning medical support this is not good but managable Overwhelm the system and it becomes a major problem 1918 Trying to mitigate the effects while not causing a mass panic is pragmatic|0 Hmm not necessarily free even if its fully paid for by the government consider that youd have to take time off and travel to a doctor so you lose some wages that you couldve earned in that time and theres a possibility of false negatives and false positives too False negative you go around feeling confident that you dont have the virus and end up being a spreader or a super spreader False positive go through lots of tests and get exposed to the coronavirus at the hospital when you didnt have it in the first place|1 I think China fudges the numbers to hide the scope I think they keep the ratio accurate though They will never admit to PLA numbers of any kind for example It shows weakness of their military in their minds Its just determining what factor they reduced the actual numbers by We had some clues early on when the wrong set of numbers was released Figure a city of 11 million I think it could easily be 5x as many sick and dead|0 Yep The 36 roentgen not great not terrible meme is the same exact thing as the US not testing for Coronavirus and then people pointing at the low number of confirmed cases as a reason not to worryCant have a high number of confirmed cases if you dont run a high number of testsIts straight up denial of reality|0 Wow I really wonder how the promotion of something that can directly lead to death is related to the promotion of something that can directly lead to death|0 Hes as much of an expert as 99 of people on Facebook then Brilliant|1 They should be warned then charged with manslaughter if they leaveAt this point its straight up homicide|0 rCoronavirusCA rCoronavirusWA Links for the lazy|0 I imagine its the same people who thought it was a good idea to vote for him in the first place|1 It really is amazing how many people have told me to calm down when all Im doing is buying some extra rice and flour and basic shit Not even majorly stockpiling just getting enough to last me for a while Basic preparedness is apparently the same thing as creating a panic now And the US has only tested less than 500 people|1 I genuinely hope this is true it will serve as a containment model for the rest of the world to follow However if it is proven false then we are even further behind again|1 Do you have any studies showing that stopping flights helps at all All the verified epidemiologists that I have seen disagree with you on that point and Id love to see some research backing up your point if you have any Dont worry I havent looked for research against your position I just havent seen any that backs your position it but Id be interested to see itIts not a challenge just a question|1 Thats good to hear positive things Utah is sucking hard No tests state department sucking CDC messes up our largest hospitals corona testing certification so they are still waiting for it Its a disaster|0 It helps search for drug candidates that would target how the virus bonds to our cells Since there are too many possible solutions this is a brute force attempt by giving thousands of computers across the world a few possible solutions at a time to try and solve the puzzle and if it doesnt it gets crossed off the list|1 Get the fuck outta here US borders are not closed and other places have more stringent responses Your sicophancy and idoltry will get people killed and you are too cultish to get your head out of your ass and realize you are singing praises to the person who enabled the trainwreck your pathetic attempt at a response will cause|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos BoycottWholeFoods|0 The last interview he gave was about two weeks later when he said he was scared and predicted it would be 10x worse than SARS He was attacked as a fearmonger by Chinese media and CCP shills and hasnt given an interview since|0 rwowthanksimcured Instead of obvious statements how about a realistic plan to stop smoking Scientists love telling people what to do but always conveniently shove the how under the carpet|1 KCMO declared a state of emergency a few hours ago banning gatherings of more than 1000 people for 21 days maybe STL will get the hint and follow suit|0 Hear thisLatest coronavirus research by a team of researchers from Nankai University in Tianjin lead by Professor Ruan Jishou a prominent virologists and genomicisthave discovered that the new SARSCov2 coronavirus that causes the Covid19 disease has a mutated gene that is found in HIV virus It is this unique feature that sets it aside from the rest of the known coronavirusesThe combined findings from the three studies indicates that because of the HIVlike mutations its ability to bind with human cells could be as much as 1000 times more potent that the initial SARS virus of 2003 The study indicated that the HIVlike gene found on the new SARSCoV2 coronavirus was not detected on any of the other coronaviruses including the MERS original SARS and even the BatCoVRaTG13 a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes|1 The solution to a recession is not to stop the flow of money more than it already is The solution to a recession is to drop helicopters full of money on people who will spend it My proposal The IRS which collects payroll tax from employers and knows how much payroll tax each employer has paid in for each employee has the data necessary to push money back into the hand of employers who have their existing payroll companies that pay their existing employees Take everybody whos March 15th and April 1st payroll tax payment is less than their March 1st and February 1st payroll tax payment and figure out how much they didnt pay their employees Push that back the other way into the employers existing bank account with strict limitations Then they can pay their employees on Friday through their existing direct deposit providers No new federal agency no claim forms no bureaucracy just create the money out of thin air which is what they do anyway and push it back to the people who already paid it in Doing a payroll tax cut going forward is useless for people who have already lost their jobsThen tenants can pay their rent landlords can pay their mortgages and their insurance companies and their state and local government taxes and banks can pay their bondholders and shareholders and the stocks can go up because they are stable profit making businesses If they just keep giving made up money to the stock market directly that money can disappear just as quickly South Park showed this is 2009 remember Aaand Its gone|0 Tests are pretty scarce right now Even the White House doesnt want to waste tests on lowlevel employees like POTUS|1 Yes Also one of the issues I see in your story is that Xrays were taken COVID19 damage does not appear on Xray only on CT scan So even if they had it the Xray would have looked normal|0 My uncles wedding is in about that time I was already planning to turn down the invitation due to all this Hes my godfather but its not worth putting my health and everybody elses at risk I have elderly relatives who will go no matter what if its not cancelled Im not going to add to their exposureThat being said my recommendation to him and you would be to do a private ceremony now courthouse with a handful of people and schedule a family celebration when its safer Work with your vendors to see if they will transfer the payments to a later date|0 All large events this weekend should be CANCELLED|0 My 10 month old son currently has a bad case of the chicken pox I have been somewhat relieved to read COVID19 has a milder effect on children however is it possible fighting two viruses at one time could complicate matters for him Does the chicken pox have any effect on his immune system that may make him more susceptible to catching COVID19 or having serious complications from itIm sorry to ask such a specific and individual question but I cant find anything about it online and Im very worried about him|0 Sounds like you and I work at the same hospital All our masks and gowns are locked up and theyre telling the local paper were ready for thisthis is what we do And you can bet your ass the CEOs will be holed up in their mansions while the grunts nurses doctors and all healthcare workers work some til death|0 No where is safe right now but definitely get off the plane get off the boat|1 A mask would probably have helped at the very least they stop you unconsciously touching your face|0 What are the fitting symptoms flu cough resp disorder where do you draw the line to qualify as the minimum|0 Player Doug Ford has started playing POKEMON GO with lives of Canadians in ON|1 I talked with one of the admins and he was banned after the CCP took overtotally not a cover up|0 I was being sarcastic dude|0 I dont know I think most understand that Especially with our current president Which is not a good representation of what normal Americans are like But it does push that image But its always good to hear outside perspectives of what others are thinking of us|0 Ken Casey is an angel and the entire Dropkick crew are amazing humans|1 For which That it happens all the timeIts super common for hepatitis Eghttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed28859219But its how resistant influenza is selected for So far as I know its the only thing significantly selecting for it All other resistance is blind chance Any discussion of resistant flu will mention it Eghttpsacademicoupcomjidarticle203118879253Or for the use of antiviralsHeres the one for the 4 with Tamifluhttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762452Ill have to try and track down the other two|1 Were on Reddit have you seen how bad these threads have been lately|0 Read the TheBorgIsBacks comment again and imagine himher as a young person in the aftermath of the Second World War His parents home reduced to rubble most of his friends dead wounded and orphaned The economy in tatters Dogshit degrees arent available to most let alone being taught much because of the War effort Hes lucky to have an OLevel because his school was also bombed into the ground Theres no guarantee of a good job But the country could do with more mechanics and construction workers as it starts to rebuild itselfThen TheBorgIsBack says thats what happens when the young generation are treated like shit NGL I wont complain if a few thousand elderly die This country is broke already|0 Im in a legal state and have had very good luck with gummies as the dosing is quite consistent Good luck I hear you on opioids I had to quit in order to stop getting migraines|1 red envelope with money in it new year gift|1 There is an unavoidable delay with the data due to bureaucracyhow many channels the numbers need to go through It is no easy task collecting nationwide statistics especially from busy doctors We can just hope that those in charge arent underestimating this delayWhat is especially worrying are the reports that the government plans have changed after the COBRA meeting due to the imperial report httpswwwbbccouknewshealth51915302httpswwwbbccouknewshealth51915302 There is enough evidence to suggest that leadership have underestimated corona and perhaps thought that the crazy growth in Italy is unique and something that wont happen to usAgain I ask the questionwhy are Germany and other European countries taking action earlier You can compare the statistics now we have the fourth highest deaths in Europe We also have less ICU capacity and a worrying situation in densely populated London|0 I think this is fake bullshit|0 Is there a website that tracks the drastic drop in tickets around the world Showing before and after comparisons|0 They can deny entry to permanent residents too Theyre just being nice about it|1 Are there similar reactions to anti malarials as antibiotics Or if you have severe reactions to several antibiotic families is there any reasons to be cautious with anti malarials|0 And this virus broke out weeks ago our government could have foreseen the problem and allotted those supplies to healthcare many weeks ago or had those items sent back to be purchased by healthcare Stop the Mask Shaming on non healthcare workers you righteous sentient dookie I love how the piece of hit emoticon tried to replace your user name when I spelled it out but really I know you believe you are in the right and thats sweet but really we in the medical field dont blame the guy at CVS getting a mask it goes way higher up|1 Because the route for my nonstop 2 hour flight has been cancelled probably until March 29 the shortest replacement flight is 9 hours and the cheapest replacement flight is 100 more than the airline is willing to refund me|0 Dont get me wrong Im hoping this 1400 investment turns into 10k so I can pay off some debt But it feels weird to hope for a crash |1 The irony is beyond comprehension|0 Honestly just call indont go If you dont have paid sick time youre not gonna get paid in the event they close anyway|1 im pretty sure some of the points made in that briefing were its already spreading fast we have no way to stop it or catch it but we are too pussy to tell the public we are incredibly unprepared for the event lot of people will die cause our healthcare model is terrible for this kind of situation|0 I dont think it was on purpose only because the economic impact doesnt seem to help anyone Perhaps in the coming weeksmonths an obvious gain will be made more apparent and I will reassess my position One thing is clear there will be a whole lot off finger pointing before this is over and Im becoming worried this blame game might lead to a cold or God forbid hot war with China I think we are right in our observation about the Wuhan lab however I now understand why that claim was attacked so vehemently in the early stages of the disease because ultimately the blame game wont help anyone and only risks destroying our fragile web of relative global peace|0 IIRC Washington is now capable of about 200 tests per day and climbing|1 They are now but it was a fight Teachers were threatening a sickout|0 The CDC is incompetent and entirely unprepared for a real outbreak|0 To kill the Coronavirus right|0 I did mean to respond to you but the quote is an error I totally agree with flattening the curve and I hope we can manage it|1 Even in the US some respirator are selling for 3 times as much on Amazon|1 I got down voted yesterday for commenting on gun and ammo sales but I work in a store that sells guns and ammunition On Friday we did 23 thousand dollars in guns and ammo Same day last year we did 3 thousand |0 This study also doesnt really take into account the mutated virus if sars cov 2 The numbers i am not sure are significant enough to decide from the small sample size if this applies|0 Peoples death is a just a karma They are actual lives|0 Good for her Its amazing the people who run these businesses dont seem to read the news and data Maybe they just lack reading comprehension skills She and her teammates are good people the business will be thanking them in a few months|1 Youre just a paronaid Probably thousands of patients come there with the same paranoia a day Blood is taken if the test results are positive they will be quarantined The process is like this The incubation period of the disease is between 17 days and 27 days If illness was detected in someone from Iran you were already in quarantineLook the ministry prepared a guide here httpswwwsozcucomtr2020saglikcerrahpasacoronavirusuicinklavuzhazirladi5656570httpswwwsozcucomtr2020saglikcerrahpasacoronavirusuicinklavuzhazirladi5656570|1 Not to be that guy but reading cdcgov we know for a fact that they havent announced any new information in almost 10 days theres also the detail that CDCs information does not include individuals who may have been in contact with confirmed cases because theyre still under the impression H2H does not existlook for yourself at cdcgov|1 If Im being forced to go into work I am damn well getting my drivethru coffee going to also increase my risk of getting coronavirus|0 Your comment was removed as it is a low effort post Rule 10|0 The data from China is literally number of dead divided by number of confirmed cases by she group Many of those cases would have just been diagnosed and havent had time to progress to the point where they could potentially die This means that the real death rate is much higher depending on how long it generally takes to progress from diagnosis to death for those who die|0 Both can be effective if used correctly Source httpssmartairfilterscomenblogbestmaterialsmakediyfacemaskvirusutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 You are eligible for the welfare provided that you are quarantined or admitted to a hospital pursuant to the Infectious Disease Prevention Law have received a quarantine letter from a health care facility and if you have not been provided money for sick leave Specific only to people diagnosed with Coronavirus or suspected infectionSo is everyone in Korea essentially in house arrestThis aint NK|0 You OK bro|1 Yeah but the movie virus killed people quickly and violently so it was pretty hard to ignore Covid 19 is sneaky |0 Great post People at my work are saying the same thing about it just being the flu So many people acting like they are experts on the Coronavirus LOL for what its worth the majority of the people at my work saying its not a big deal its just the flu are all Trump supporters They arent even putting in any effort to do research of their own They just go with whatever the rightwing media tells them|1 No that would require UK public health to actually do something meaningfuluseful|0 Are there safe vaccine delivery methods that you can have|1 Albino is a small town we dont have crime we dont even close our homes by key The town is very empty except for police and ambulances I think it would be easier to catch crime than usual|1 I already have lung fibrosis as well as a nodule so am I double fucked|0 I knew Hot Topic was better than Spencers Gifts Once this is all over god knows Im going to have stresseaten myself from Medium to Large so Ill go buy some new shirts there|1 There will be a pizza party|1 Okay thanks|1 From what I have read shipments from China are not a threat Or are you referring to pneumonia improving after antibiotics |1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 It is still probably the most socially advanced Islamic country Not because it is good it is because others sucks|1 China really cant win with yall huhThey do well and contain the cases theyre lyingThey fuck up and let it spread them dirty chinese just love spreading diseasesWhat the fuck do you want from them We can estimate prevalence in China from Chinese traveling abroad Their confirmed cases dropped similarly to Chinese passengers Independent researchers have confirmed the same from intraChina casesThe West is fucking up while China is on the recovery Its as simple as that Stop with the cognitive dissonance|0 A quick scan of his post history shows that hes just an angry person in general|0 It seems to be based on the belief that most people are stupid and thus incapable of foThis Dont think the argument is valid either Give simple training to people and even though not 100 effective at least you will be decreasing the amount of infections in turn keeping medical professionals safer too|0 Dont get passive aggressive with me buddy We can talk without you getting frustrated Yes I read daily He can still do more That article is great talks about a great initiative but some of his lowerincome employees may be going home unable to sleep because their partner is going to be out of work for 30 days You dont know everyones story Zuck could really plant his feet in the ground right now and commit to doing some next level shit that would shock the world with the billions hes amassed He could Think of how much money Jack Ma has spent donating millions of test kits and masks to countries across the worldZuck needs to understand the problems real not rich people are facing right now What the elderly are facing right now What we will be facing in 30 days And as a billionaire in the upper echelon of society he needs to use his resources to help those who he builds his success on the back of to the best of his ability|1 Thanks Ive added a warning to stress that the twitter source is not necessarily reliable and only serves to undermine the FAZ report|0 Fuuuuuck thats bullshit At least we know hes hearty like bull so he has to be better soon|1 I got about two weeks of staying home in me at most After that Ill take my chances|0 Especially since the insurance companies said they wouldnt play along with the administrations plans for how theyll assist with funding testing|0 Source Not doubting just want to learn more about this|1 What do you mean by cant afford to take a day off Do you people not get paid when you are at home due to illness etc|0 It kills old people So this is really bad for republicans Sure with good treatment your chances are a bit better but doctors really cant do much here So differences in access to healthcare wont even remotely offset the differences in age Basically theyre not just evil theyre incompetent too|1 North and South Korea United by a deadly infectious plague And this time its not communism|1 Yea thats not fair |0 That girlfriend thanks for clearing that up because it is sometimes surprisingly difficult to keep up with his antics|1 To be fair its usually mild with adults too In the Chinese numbers 80 have a mild case In reality its probably a lot more Im not even sure a majority of infected people notices symptoms|0 Theres nothing to dispute the transactions arent fraudulent Its just an unfortunate situation negatively impacting guests hosts and companies|1 Just thinning the herd reducing cost of Social Security and medicare These folks are mostly retired too so no big thang|0 I saw my first Facebook ad from the CDC Learn how to protect yourself The linked site was pretty weak But at least they are easing the subject into the public eye Expecting more real world information over the next week|1 So we are getting our lines crossed here You are using the when you should be using mm Hg 60 mm Hg is considered on the low end for an ABG not an oxygen satI was talking about oxygen saturation which is why I was using As in 87 oxygen saturation equals offering the patient supplemental oxygen|0 Yup this shadow cult has been a thorn in China for over a year Heres was an article from 2019httpswwwchinasourceorgresourcelibrarychinesechurchvoicescultactivityinchinaimpactschurcheshttpswwwchinasourceorgresourcelibrarychinesechurchvoicescultactivityinchinaimpactschurchesThey focus on the book of revelations and the end days with the idea their their leader is Jesus reincarnateThe spread in China aligns very well with a map of branches were the cult isIts cults that these that given CCP an excuse to crack down on non statesanctioned versions of each religion After all Chinas worst war in terms of casulties was exactly caused by one such cult Taiping RebellionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTaipingRebellionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTaipingRebellionThe idea of this cult is likely to spread the deceased to such an extent that it destroys standard society structure whereby their cell members can consolidate powerRemember that people are much more vulnerable to cults when they are in a state of stress|0 It hasnt gotten to this point yet but by the time this virus has run its course it will have affected every American in some capacity Well never forget 2020 and all the lives lost because of our stupidy Its going to be a shit year buckle up|0 Ok this is a very interesting one with possible markers on who advances to ARDS including high neutrophilia matches up with another study a possible treatment methylprednisolone for those with ARDSSample size was limited to those who presented at the hospital with pnemonia caused by covid19Could use some comments from those who understand the nomenclature on the other risks factors is it ChlorineChloride Theres HR and ClAnother note on their data they provided the type of oxygen therapy 4 types that was used|1 No That was Chad Wolf he runs DHS Of note Chad Wolf is Trumps 5th DHS director The last one resigned in October 2019|0 Im Italian and I live near Milan Same thing happening here prisoners are rioting on the roofs setting things on fire police and army is everywhere|0 As will I I hope they see this Those fucking jerks|1 Thanks for that Running on very little sleep today|1 I agree with most others in this thread and the outlook of this outbreak is really bad but to add a little more context and play devils advocateIf the numbers are pretty accurate right now for COVID19 a big if then for the average person right now you are much more likely to catch the Flu than this new virus All things being equal even with CFR of both COVID19 and Flu complications the risk to the average person of death from this infection from just going about your normal life like going to a coffee shop is still much higher for Flu than Covid19Further this is probably also true for most people in China outside of Hubei There is absolutely a point when this risk profile will flip and indications are that we are heading that way but its not today|0 Are you sick Have you been exposed I not save the masks for people who actually need them please|0 No members of the public should even be in hospitals at this stage theres a pandemic going on I hope hospitals soon put restrictions on visiting for everyones safety The 3 hospitals nearest to me all have coronavirus outbreaks now and are shutting down wards People are desperate and scared but of course thats no excuse for stealing sanitizer|0 Yes 8 or 9 confimed in any country or place means that there are more there But there are tactics that governments and medical staff can use to stop spread and trace infected people even if they dont self report Look up how Ebola was stopped in guinea sierra leone and liberia And that was with extremely minimal resources so imagine what a country with better infrastructure and high standard of education could do|0 Problem is that being right in court requires hiring a lawyer which often requires money You might get lucky and find one that will work on contingency if there is a compelling profit motive Going to court also takes a substantial amount of time to go through the process and collect any award Not to mention it taking time away from your job search since youll now be unemployed in what is sure to be a terrible economyReddit loves to claim the answer is as easy as just sue them And yes that can work but its never an easy answer|1 I remember seeing something that initially over 50 were deemed asymptomatic but they later estimated in reality only 17 or so stayed that way The potential for super long incubation periods easily over a week sometimes exceeding 2 weeks basically brings up asymptomatic results when you test and ask those patients about symptoms but in reality they will have symptoms they just havent developed yetIts a bit unclear though because other studies do seem to imply more asymptomatic cases|1 Excellent write up Im sure I speak for many when I say thank you Both for your hard work and your online postsIve limited my sources of news to just a few places including your postsPlease keep up the hard work and dont forget to get some rest every once in a while Im just a lowly wedding photographer I wish I could help more Its comforting knowing there are real professionals working on thisCheersWhen this one day comes to an end you should set up a GoFundMe so we can all collectively buy you a beer|1 Sure I read somewhere recently that those petitions were going to be stopped altogether|1 Yeah you totally convinced me that doing nothing is a sophisticated and nuanced responseNo one knows that there will be a second wave With Spanish flu first wave wasnt that bad this one isEveryone in this case and Spanish flu case who took the more extreme measures saw improved outcomes|1 Pretty sure this is to protect Chinas image and nothing else They have been singing songs of praise and protecting China as much as they can If they call it a pandemic that will damage Chinas image more They would rather throw their own credibility down the drain to protect China|1 Theres similar research regarding SARS but nobody is following it Its a pitty that we dont seem to be learning from our mistakes|0 Theres plenty of reasons to think that 34 is the accurate rate Foremost the fact that the worlds best viriologists at the WHO looked at the available data and came to that conclusion Second China tested your hypothesis headon by screening 320000 people in one province at fever clinics Contrary to expectations only 14 had COVID which strongly contradicts the theory that the death rates are based on underreported infection numbers Finally your math is really kind of ridiculous You divided the number of deaths by the number of cases but this assumes that everyone who has not yet died would not die In fact only 333 people in South Korea have recovered from the disease Using this data to argue that the death rate is 77 is just as crazy as using this data to suggest the death rate is 20 deaths people who have recovered|0 Looks like Andrew Yang vision of a UBI may come to fruition No one took him seriously about UBI until this virus came to be and now everyone starting to see the benefit of it Imagine when automation start replacing workers in the future The United States never care about real problems until its too late Just like no one is taking the virus seriously until there are multiple thousands of deaths|1 depend where you live in Canada here in Quebec city they tell you and we just banned even with more than 250 people|0 That or guess I go to work sick|0 Did anyone in your family catch it from him and also fall sick Its a very contagious virus|0 I think the numbers for community spread so farCalifornia has two in two different countiesOregon has oneWashington has had one fatal cases and four new ones with many more positive expected in the coming days from the long term care facility|1 Ignoring all other variables that could account for this the test is done by blindly yamming a swab deep down nose and hoping to catch something Do you know how many times we swab for influenza and it turns up negative only to later find out that person in fact had the flu|0 It was probably Chinese trolls pushing the theory to begin with to divert from the fact that was a bioweapon developed by the Chinese that they failed to contain in their own province|0 Hate to break it to you but this thing is not going away|0 Criteria to Guide Evaluation of Patients Under Investigation for 2019 Novel Coronavirus 2019nCoVhttpsimgurcomFu1e1x6 image|1 Thank you me too|1 Wearing an N95 mask in public is like wearing a condom to the grocery store in case you get laid|1 I have recently been diagnosed with MS And to treat my immediate symptoms I was given 100mg Methyl Prednisone for 3 days This was 15 weeks ago I have read that this medicine weakens immune system I am 28 MaleShould I be worried How long does it take for immune system to recover|1 Was not able to read the article but based on the headline and your commentWhat am I supposed to do in a city that has zero confirmed cases Act like the world is ending Theres no reason for me to not carry on like nothing is happening because nothing is happening|1 Wow had no idea|1 Going inawoods tomorrow Fuck this shit|0 Yeah need to be doing more of this It seems that travelers from Wuhan are lying with impunity according to this secondhand report httpswwwredditcomrcvnewscommentseu34x4chinesenationalsarelyingabouttheirtravelhttpswwwredditcomrcvnewscommentseu34x4chinesenationalsarelyingabouttheirtravel|0 LMAO|1 Well its still early|1 This should have been done a long time ago but Im glad its now being put into practice|1 Oh look another person lacking reading comprehension skills You passed your 11 correct IF I WERE HATING|0 I think they may they just want to keep them for the professionals|1 North western Oregon here Long time lurker first post on mobile Rumors but no publicly confirmed cases yet Small businesses and schools are shutting down A Man was beaten half to death at Walmart over soap Witnessed by a close friend things arent looking much better If we are even testing everyone is being hush hush about it Edit we are out of toilet paper soap and sanitizer canning jars even supplies to make soap Wednesday night I went to buy bulk rice and beans and found the shelves nearly empty The store seemed to be moving things around to make it look like they had stuff but there was clearly a lot missing I havent been out since If I think of anything else to add I will update|0 Jokes on you I live in the US All those low paid wage slaves are going to be coughing over everything for you because they cant afford health care or have paid leaveMeanwhile Iran is creating mass burial pitshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldirancoronavirusoutbreakgravesutmcampaignwpmainutmmediumsocialutmsourcefacebook|0 I love it|1 Doctors in China suggest that those people wont infect others It seems like tjey are still working on confirming this theory|1 Is there any data on hospitalization by age yet Ive struggled to find good datasets on this that arent chunked into massive groups 1865 is not very useful|0 You are so dumb You are really dumb Like really httpsmedia3giphycommediaPgy4Na8aRyBuEgiphygifcid790b76117f36a5ef5f8a254fad9b17f0fd7c906887e5d629ridgiphygifhttpsmedia3giphycommediaPgy4Na8aRyBuEgiphygifcid790b76117f36a5ef5f8a254fad9b17f0fd7c906887e5d629ridgiphygif|0 Same but my friend studies practical surgery so no amount of online teaching can be sufficient|1 Its also kind of a cultural thing to misreport some things ie their murder and suicide rates Very much a thing in Japan and I dont doubt something similar is happening with this virus|0 We had a guy at my last company run some models for some airdrops we were doing He built some model in excel and explained it with some jargon We followed the model for about 13 days before we gave away over 10k in a single day and realized his model was brutally flawed And he had drops scheduled for double that This was a startup and had we followed his model we would have bankrupt the company in like 2 months Moral of the story there are extremely dumb people who can still talk their way into positions of responsibility|0 I disagree In this instance number of beds is absolutely going to matter more than quality of care|1 I didnt mean you I meant pundits like fox business or people who write about the dead cat bounce as if its a recovery But rereading what I wrote I totally see how what I said was not very clear|0 Its nice you want to help others given the situation you have had to put yourself in and are faced with now Noble|1 You post this as a helpful note and then proceed to plaster the guys number on Reddit where no doubt crank callers and jerks will annoy him hopefully mods remove it|0 at the very least it stops people from touching their mouth and nose|0 Viruses generally cause virulence because of increased viral numbers Increased viral population increased transmission but also increased negative affect on the host body so increased virulence If the host dies before the virus can infect another host thats selection pressure against virulence Yet a high population density increases the likelihood of infection and decreases the duration to infect another host Therefore high population density favors increased virulenceBut eg influenza has higher viral titers than SARSCoV2 prefers upper respiratory more and doesnt sicken people so badly SARSCoV2 with these traits in an immunologically naive population would fare ven better This increases if the pathogen has delayed symptomsWhich is is an inverse correlate of high virulenceTo the extent that this thing keeps people acting somewhat healthy moving in public transit etc its growth can be exponential The current profile of disease appears to limit it to quadratic growth because it triggers containment measures that force it to only spread to a small network of close contacts Any variant that sickened a little less could enjoy exponential growth Theres no guarantee that this initial growth would be faster than the current quadratic growth rate if its eg less virulent but in the long run exponents always win over polynomials|1 Dude its not an easy job for that kind of money people work very Hard not everyone makes 200k an year its not easy Stop complaining they earn money because they generate money and they didnt fucking study gender studies bullshit and then complain about being poor Such defeatist attitude|0 Good point I follow the NBA and Mitchell in particular is one of the more popular young players his autographselfie is very sought after at arenas all over the league Imagine if games kept going even another week all the fans and other players he unknowingly couldve spread this too Its good sports closed when it did bc things couldve gotten much worse|1 Theyd get increased bonuses for laying off staff|1 Fair point|1 Heat kills the virus and I think florida in may will be hot enough|0 Are us private school kids fucked lol|0 How do you get all those people to show up without risking spreading the infectionAre they like testing through the mail or something smart|1 Well Sir the terrible behaviours of some has just caused a shit storm called coronavirus and a global epidemic The world does not deserve it but China deserves it|0 White people eating roadkill rotten fish mouldy cheese as delicacy I sleepA single video of a Chinese woman eating a bat ReAl sHiTThe double standard is ridiculous|0 Yeah everyone who works for companies like Walmart are excluded Insurance waiving copays is great If you have insurance|1 First local lockdowns were on 21 February On 7 March Italy had a growth of 1247 cases and they locked down northern Italy the next day Note that industrial activity and travel is significant maybe higher in the north than down south No matter what the day after it was the whole of Italy on lockdownSpain right now has hundreds more new cases a day than what Italy had at the point of lockdown and it looks like their lockdown will go into effect on Monday only|1 Vienna here Yeah Same Nobody except my family seems to care at all in my circles Strangely that they all hoard stuff and then eat in their Cafs and Restaurants|1 I honestly cant tell if its1 a gross miscalculation based upon utter stupidity that not testing will keep the numbers low Having a higher CFR due to more deaths than than a lower CFR doesnt make people feel safer2 some angle where he was hoping to profit from the tests being made but the pharma companies responsible for making the tests are too stupid to manage that job3 combination of both factors and complete mismanagement by decimating the CDC leadership|0 Ive been losing sleep and constantly frustrated for almost two monthsIm ready to self isolate and drink|0 In China they have been using blood plasma from people that have recovered to help people that are still sick This would not work unless getting the infection gave you some immunity to the virusThere have been reported cases of reinfection but it is unclear if these cases are due to actually catching the coronavirus again or if they are getting discharged too early due to a false negative or competition for hospital bedsThe PCR test used is notorious for false negatives People that are sick may not express enough virus where they are swabbed to register a positive Thats why they are swabbed in multiple places Unfortunately there is no easy way to swab the lungs where it really matters After a couple of false negatives you are recovered and sent homeAlso there are reports that people that are still recovering but are improved are getting kicked out of the hospital in China to make space for sicker patients Some of these recovered patients relapse and get worse again|0 Seems like semantics to me I thought the argument that the n near 1 of correlation between the two mutations was convincing that there is a separate strain|1 Ooo a stalker lol|1 We are three weeks from shortages of many prescription drugs medications millions are addicted to Imagine no opioids|0 A friend of mine is driving a doctor around in Wrzburg Bavaria and he told me he had to work from 12 am to 10 pm because suddenly EVERYONE has the virus Except they dont and they had to do 40 tests and not one person tested positive They have to waste testkits on healthy people and now they begin to run low|1 At a macro level we have to 1 prevent the healtcare system from being overloaded by implementing ways to slow down and spread out the transmission 2 Prevent the masses from fucking panicking and devolving the situation into uncivilized chaos and 3 Prevent the entire system from collapsing This is truly a black swan event|0 Fuck CCP What a bunch of spineless cunts|0 I see what youre saying Although I find it far more likely that if things get significantly worse governments around the world will take significant steps to lessen the spread Most of these worst case numbers seem to think that if millions of people start dying we will just continue the way we are which aint likely|0 This pandemic is going to have huge geopolitical consequencesI think the flyby of the Russian TU95 on 26 Feb 2020 was really interesting Just testing UK reaction time whilst attention might have been diverted elsewhere Putin is a master game player and also active in the US shalegas battle|1 FWIW I had something very similar back in early January Multiple ER visits for what seemed like asthma attacks but I dont normally have asthma Also negative for flu and RSV Corona hadnt spread to my area back then and its extremely unlikely this was COVID19 also never had any hint of a fever My pulmonologist thinks my body was overreacting to a respiratory virus of some kind Anyways I work full time and was coughing all the time in my elbow but still and also around my husband and son none of those people came down with a similar illness Before you judge me this was before COVID was on anyones mind as something to worry aboutAnecdotal I know but dont forget there are a whole lot of respiratory illnesses out there that arent COVID or the fluPS get prescribed an athome nebulizer if you can This may prevent you from needing to make a repeat ER visit if you get another exacerbation|0 Heres what i dont understand What is the endgame here They say that recovering from the virus does not mean immunity So how long do we stay in our homes The world cant function like this forever Are we going to ration leaving the house|0 I didnt say it was facts I was bringing up a point I was wildly misdiagnosed by a top hospital in Tokyo once Because I didnt want to go to a shitty mom and pop clinic like the one you clearly mentioned|1 By hoping they can keep just under capacity is the problemReduce the cases now the light blue line and then put restrictions in place again after restriction if quarantine if necessaryIts likely we will build herd immunity but we can do it over a slower period and buy ourselves time and also allows for the inherent uncertainty in capacity we can build or the numbers which will be infected|0 ManufacturingProcess Engineer Experience in Machining and Investment Casting lost wax for AerospaceI tried getting like a decent 20hr job working manufacturing lines machining plant maintenance and stuff like that just to pay the bills but companies wont even look if youre overqualified They know youre going to bolt as soon as something in your career path comes along I dont care about my career anymore I just want to work I LOVE working with my hands I would actually ENJOY like a metal fab job I did welding for years out of high school But nobody will look at me|1 This is Chinas chance so its modern might and to be the hero and their pretty much running the table while the old legacy powers run around to The Benny Hill theme|1 Ok guys jokes over where is Ashton Kutcher|1 For those curious this is only if your Student loan is held by the department of education This is likely not the case for 99 of you I still have to make my loan payments|1 I like these numbers I was very optimistic about them until I realized that the virus was taking almost a month to kill people based on the data from China For instance Dr Li Wenliang was exposed to the virus on January 10th and died February 7th From his interview with the New York Times I started coughing on Jan 10 It will take me another 15 days or so to recover I will join medical workers in fighting the epidemic Thats where my responsibilities lie So he was exposed before January 10th incubation times are still up for debate and died on Feb 7th Unless the CPP took him out it took this 33 year old physician about a month to die He is not the only case like this So while I like S Koreas numbers I am not convinced of this low death rate I hope it is true One of the problems with this virus is that the long latency periods are messing with our tech riddled short attention span psychology Oh No new cases in three days We must be all clear While places like Iran and Italy prepared to erupt as other places soon will I fear this might be Look at the low death rate in S Korea before the virus has had its time We think in too short of terms for this virus and it is not helping the situation Note on Dr Li Wenliang mentioned above His death led to an outcry by the people in China and worldwide China launched an investigation into it because of the outrage Some speculated foul Li first called out the virus on WeChat to colleges stating that he had several atypical pneumonia cases in the ICU and was worried of another SARS like outbreak The Chinese govt made him redact his statement and reprimanded him He is a hero like many healthcare workers were in Wuhan RIP|0 That is a fantastically vague nonresponse about the healthcare system from someone pretending that nothing about it could possibly make us more vulnerable to a pandemic while simultaneously trying to shift the blame onto people trying to get treatment You realize any medical treatment will require high prescription costs and copays right Whether its the ER or not is irrelevant Im not going to say that someone who has a terrible ideology must automatically be wrong about everything but this is just a happy coincidencehttpswwwredditcomrkotakuinaction2commentsdw2t2ldemocratsareinfectingredstateslikeaviruscompactBased on your post history youre a xenophobic hyperreligious conservative Why is it that people with the worst ideologies always want to say they dont have a label for themselves When people ask you should just say whatever the people in The Handmaids Tale were we will understand|0 Youre right it is I really hope for the sake of my friends in the states and all people like you that these crazy work conditions youre put under change soon Nobody deserves to feel like they realistically cant afford to take a day off work because they are sick or could be sick soon not in the supposed biggest international superpower and a first world nation|1 Interesting Ill check it out thanks|1 Well then I have some more suggestions for you These channels have tours of peoples tiny homesLiving Big in a Tiny HouseExploring AlternativesKristen Dirksen Kristen explores alternative dwellings like Earthship homes|1 Id wait it out and see what happens Plan for the worst hope for the best|1 What are the property owners going to do when no one can pay their rent because they are sick or they are quarantined or the business they worked for went under Will all of us be evicted|0 Not great|0 Welcome to the medical industry a monopoly of greed Im currently building ventilators in case we have a huge demand in Britain Id happily quarantine at work if it meant getting ventilatorsrespirators to sick people|1 The scariest part is that once youre feeling the symptoms its already too late anyway You were capable of spreading it for a few days prior to that already So even with sick leave massive spread is inevitable since its undetectable for a few days before you show symptoms|0 Propaganda|0 Just before Christmas I had an unusually bad case of something I couldnt stop coughing for a month and Im reasonably healthy|0 Nah I bet its already in the thousands|0 Bullshit|0 So the TLDR is that while they successfully did some damage control infection spread on board could have been worse it would have been better if everyone had been evacuated at the outsetIsnt this a logistical issue as to where 3700 multinational passengers and crew could be quickly and safely evacuated to I mean I guess solving that problem falls outside the scope of the paper|1 I agree with most of what you say when it applies to the bigger cities such as Shanghai or Beijing but I do not believe those costs translate to other citiesI am Australian and live in China a month each year and I think the cost in China youre speaking of would be a very high end lifestyle even for Americans living in America It would be like eating at the a restaurant in a hotel every lunch|1 I had severe pneumonia last year and the breathing was the worst part I was stubborn and tried to stay home and ride it out Finally was convinced to go to the hospital and doctor said my oxygen levels were terrible First night in the hospital my breathing got so bad that I could barely take in any air and for a brief moment I felt pure primal panic and Im someone whos faced a lot of life or death danger of the more external threat kind I kinda dont wanna do that again and so soon at that|0 20 min drive to manhattan But then 20 min to another place Then an hour to maybe somewhere else Then to somewhere else I service medical equipment so I never stop commuting But thank god I dont sit on the subway Godspeed my brother or sister|1 What measures must you take to get better Medicine rest|1 We are all going through a stressful time right now its not the time to abuse each other Please be kind Or say nothing|0 wow thats a funny and original response youve added alot to the discussion|1 HMS Unlucky has a nice ring to it|1 That was a few days ago My God why would I lie|1 eighthas in 1 eight of an ounce so something like 35gday|1 Damn|0 Make sense They get infected by caring about someone who is severely ill and probably has insane viral load in their system While most of the people by the looks of it can catch it from someone who has mild disease or is barely showing any symptoms which implies they viral load aint that high Its like Chernobyl situation be the one extinguishing the reactor fire and you are dead within 2 weeks But folks who were exposed to mild amounts dont die from it In other words while it makes perfect sense for doctors to wear the suits rest of us have no need for it Also points out the fact that hospital is the last place you want to be if you have it mild Even in case of severe hospital ward must be isolating patients completely and follow extremely strict guidelines Treating this in regular hospital means asking for trouble|0 What are you talking about WHO gave very detailed becauses Restricting travel causes more harm than good because it restricts aid and can cause more panic travel before it happens|0 Soooowhen my husbands friend or my fatherstepmom are at their next sporting eventmovie theatercrowded restaurantchurch and someone sneezescoughs in his direction cause I mean cmon look how closely ppl are seated at all those things hell be fine just washing his hands Give me a break And never once did I mention masks My statement was for the general conversation of people we care about not taking this seriously|1 Washington is leading the US in tests tho Other states have only tested like 18 people|1 Its been here the folks that have been saying they got a real bad flu the past month or so Came with the people that fleed Wuhan weeks before the travel ban Over 60 thousand people was tracked with GPS and according to the article from a University in the UK the virus was all ready around the world a few times before they even started the travel bans |0 I mean people in the USA and UK really dont give a fuck about anyone in the world Oh its just Chinese peopleOh just Chinese people and IraniansEh just Chinese Iranian and Italians Italy is more Mediterranean than European anywayRinse and repeat People wont open their eyes until shit gets really bad in either the UK or the US|0 Its mainly because Europe has the schengen agreement which allows for free travel throughout the EU without border checksThe UK whilst not perfect has checks|1 It will be way easier once a couple more people die|0 I quit ten days ago directly because of the virus Its been a long time coming Ive quit before but this scared me good enough maybe to make it stick this time|0 People have been buying ridiculously huge amounts well over a years worth in some cases Its still ridiculous|1 easter canada im back in college and 3 of my 4 classes are online prof is talking live and sharing his screen we can activate our microphone to ask questionsif they close the school we could totaly keep going like this its boring to attend but you dont have to drive there and you can wake up later P less traffic polution D im pretty sure elementary teachers could use some kind of skype app to teach the kids if needed|1 x200BAmericans are even worse for taking anything serious Its truly sad Unless they have it effect them directly|0 In South Korea kick them while they are downhttpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewsbusinesssouthkoreasjejuairbuyseastarjetatlowerpriceamidvirusoutbreak12490756 you bet they taking advantage|1 Man I have to admit Steve Bannon is a genius but its a shame that he uses it for dismantling Democracy around the world Imagine what a propagandist like that could do for Climate Change and Green Technology|0 China doesnt care The only thing thats truly banned over there is criticising the CCP|0 I am not really sure its a bad idea to not show how many are tested because what are the options they have at this moment1 There seem to be a lack of kits as of now so they wont for now be able to test extensively The media will blame them to be incompetent and not caring for their people Its bad And not the truth2 Because there are not enough testing kits around to test extensively as they do in Europe and China they only test cases that are direct contacts of know cases The outcome is that almost all cases tested are positive The public will freak out comparing 100 positive of all tested to the eg 60 positive tested in Europe where they test more than just direct contacts The media will go tip of iceberg US hit harder than the rest I dont see how they have anything to gain here and I also to be honest dont see how Americans deserve and answer when they clearly cant understand the implications of it I highly doubt the CDC is just there purposefully making things worse Even if underfunded recently their whole existence and history is to deal with exactly this So why dont you just let them do their jobs and dont put in the tinhat that your country has no issues letting you die A lot of the recent posts here are not far from facebook panic making Weeks ago this here was a neutral exchange less scientific than rcovid19 but still factual and neutral Now its all why dont people see we are all dead in 2 weeksArmchair science at its best|0 You should know many politicians in Mexico and I guess all around the wold would like to use this chaotic times to gain some political power so they use missinformation to do so Mexico is very prepared for a pandemic because we already had an outbreak of a new virus know as AH1N1 back in 2009 Because of this we had to learn to always have hand sanitizer in every corner of the country and to use it regularly the correct use of the respiratory hygiene covering your mouth and nose with your bend elbow when coughing or sneezing the use of facial mask when sick and staying home when sick and mandatory paid sick days so we as a comunity have become very familiar with the use of this containing measures Also the healt institutions in Mexico INDRE had a plan in place since the first cases were reported in China But the most important thing to take notice is that we are at different points of the pandemic event We had our first cases weeks after Italy Spain Iran USA and many other countries this is just because they have a lot of people traveling there from around the world and this is how viruses and contagious diseases work At the moment in Mexico we have 53 confirmed cases and all cases have been imported For more information please visit httpswwwgobmxsalud or httpswwwgobmxsaluddocumentosnuevocoronavirus all infotmation is in spanish|0 100 Look at Italys SHOCKINGLY high median age Florida is right on par Its incredibly sad realizing what the future looks like everywhere but Florida will be hit the worst|0 The CDC is bad because its underfunded and understaffed Read up on Starve the Beast Its been Republican strategy for decades Defund the government and then when it goes to shit use that as proof that the government doesnt work enabling them to defund it even more|0 But treatment is not free|0 Absolutely blame it on this government Youve got a President spreading outright lies about fatality rates suggesting people should go to work sick and contagious minimizing the danger Contradicting medical and pharmaceutical experts on camera and suggesting idiocy like just use a flu vaccine Youve got a VP without any medical or science experience heading the effort who refuses to even address the issue of whether testing health care response and vaccinations would be free or affordable And surrogates on Fox News arguing everyones going to get it anyway just go in for the ride In China theyve contained this thing after a massive multicity wide outbreak httpsimgurcoma6IL4xhvSo it is possible to do This bug will kill a lot more people than theyre saying It will leave many more with lung fibrosis scaring for life And there are indications that like herpes it infects neural tissue in the brain to form a reservoir for rebound infections With coordinated action globally theres still an opportunity to wipe this bug off the face of the planet These crazy elites are thinking only about short term profits Suicidal Because soon enough just like in Iran with a current 8 of parliament infected even they will face the consequences of this virus Theres no place to bug out|0 Will balaclavas help Ive been trying to shop in amazon nothing left there except masks from china that will take until april to come I was looking for something reusable because im a grad student and i cant really afford disposables Also think they should be prioritized to health workers|1 or just leave them untouched for a few days thats what Ive been doing I wouldnt want to waste resources on it|1 Too bad that amount doesnt get me high for shit|0 To some people a grand conspiracy of expertsgovts acting against their own people for no reason in particular is more plausible than open borders being a manageable risk|0 Theres a lot I dont care for about him but I have immense respect for how hes handling 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make life or death decisions based on people not following something they didnt decide s|0 thing that kills 999 of things kills you too|0 What dumb member of staff would think nobody would share it|0 conjectured that blood group antigens from the infected person were adhering to spike proteins on the virus and then getting picked up by antibodies in people that passed it to with incompatible blood typesI believe the poster youre responding to was only doubting this statement of the poster they responded to conjectured that blood group antigens from the infected person were adhering to spike proteins on the virus and then getting picked up by antibodies in people that passed it to with incompatible blood types|0 Friendship with dysentery is over Now coronavirus is best friend|1 I hope they got a supply of food and water before being nailed in like thatIts not just a stereotype all Chinese families have huge bags of rice at home at any given time its not fancy but theyll be fine food wise they can probably go for a month only eating rice especially the older generation who grew up like that when China was still a dirt poor undeveloped country as for water they usually just boil tap water which kills bacteria and then drink it hot|1 That does make more sense I really hope Americans arent actually downvoting the world wide news I need to know whats happening in the UKEuropeAnd yes it may be an American site but there does seem to be a certain attitude of were the centre of the world sometimes|1 It almost seems like UK sure wants people to die with that herd immunity bull crap suggestion|0 So with 67 dollars to your name if you get sick what is your plan to keep paying the bills survive|0 Singapore has multiple clusters 2 in churches 1 in a construction site and 1 linked to a shop targeted at chinese tourists So it is possible to spread and new cases are still popping up everyday although in low amounts for now that have no links to previous cases|0 This is ignoring the fact that there are not enough tests|0 I pray they leave the political agendas out of this and apply it only to this externality emergency I have a feeling they wont let a crisis go to waste when it comes to their policies|1 If you want your vitamins packaged with saturated fat antibiotics growth hormones fecal matter toxic mercury and general carcinogens then yesAnd these animals mostly only contain vitamins because the animals themselves are given supplementsOtherwise any fortified plant food cereal etc will do|1 I know all people are different but what helped me calm down was researching what the experts are saying The situation is scary but being informed brings calm for meI can answer your questions to the best of my ability but I honestly think you should dig into this yourself Dont get obsessed or anything but maybe a few hours of research will help you There is evidence that smokers are more susceptible to severe illness Probably depends on how long youve been a smoker IMO you shouldnt be worried but Im no doctor or epidemiologistDogs can contract the virus but because of their higher body temperature it is not likely they will get sick or be able to pass it to humansYou could possibly infect your family if you are infectious and asymptomaticI could be wrong about these things take what I say with a grain of saltStay calm be smart and you will make it through this |1 But seriously summer olympics 2020 |0 Now youre understanding the far left and that whole national socialism thing They spend their entire existence trying to convince everyone that the Nazis were right wing They werent|1 Im finding it reassuring that almost all of our cases so far have been mild and people are sent home same day and monitored I believe only the one elderly lady in BC had to be hospitalized|1 Definitely if it starts spreading in the community India is fucked|0 Yeah hes probably already in a bunker somewhere|1 On the bright side this virus may topple a presidency|1 Bombers are a central part of the nuclear deterrent They can be loaded and in the air where they become hard to kill en mass And they can come back from there You cant turn a missile aroundOf the above sounds crazy think of the time when that kind of reasoning was born|0 This is it We have a mouse model The only thing better is monkeys Progress is being made|1 You mean how many that are known to have it The actual number of people that have it and are spreading it is no doubt many more thousands than the known numberJust a tiny fraction have been tested|0 So this might be lost in the echo chamber but try to be understanding as theres some psychology at play here Even if hes carrying the plague that kind of treatment especially coming from a significant other can feel dehumanizingYouve done the safe and the right thing and thats good But be calm and gentle and explain this x200BYoure going to spend a lot of time with him in lockdown You come here to complain and take a breather but you gonna be back with him soon and you should go and deal with that|1 With this being drive up testing all being done while we were in our cars the idea that we were going into an ER wasnt quite as obvious When it comes down to it thats exactly what happened though and yes big costs come with that|1 I support all grocery stores and pharmacies doing this Restock over night and let the elderly have first dibs in a calm environment|1 I got five months worth here having had some back stock and just doing a refill It is a very common drug and as one of WHOs essential medicines I understand theres a national stockpile But given budget cuts and lack of competent people in charge who knows what our stock looks like today Glad Ive got mine covered for now|1 Yeah its mainly the few outlier cases that worry me and lack of transparency from most affected countries I feel like if your younger it will take a lot longer to succumb to your injuries than older people With this Lcov mutation as well it shows that the huge global population greatly increases chances of a more lethal strain developing but thats a fear in the back of my head and not a prevalent issue|0 When Jeff Bezos sold 18 35 billion in Amazon stockhttpswwwmarketwatchcomstoryjeffbezoshasnowsoldnearly35billioninamazonstockoverthepastweek20200206 thats when I could tell this one is different Tin foil hat or not rich fukkrz dont fuck around with their money|1 Goddamn it Id been picking this to add to my basket over paracetamol because apparently suppressing the fever is counter productive Guess plain old chicken noodle soup and suffering is the way to go Yayyy|0 Yeah we are essentially in the same situation Per ora le lezioni che devo fare le hanno organizzate online alluniversit quindi alla fine non sto perdendo tantissimo in tal senso Spero solo si risolva tutto|1 Finally I was starting to worry theyd actually try to go through with it|0 im sorry mom it wont happen again|0 Im 20 and have very limited ways of making income in your country so yeah I can understand it 81 for a plane ticket assuming you dont automatically categorise flying as a luxury is more than attainable even if you work minimum wage|1 Could be Think global depression due to empty global supply chains|0 Lmao thats the same for almost every country in the UK US do you think 30 of people have a good easy life id call this middle classupper classAll humans like regularity a regular lifestyle and job And also there is more American junk tv than Chinese junk tv|1 What government do you prefer Chinas Italys UKs Lol what an idiot|0 I see you trying to pavlov me But I did learn two things from reading that One is that reading is a trigger for me toughing my face And two is that the more someone talks about not touching my face the more my face itches But Ill keep tryingnow wheres my treat My mouth is watering|0 Good for you Protecting everyone that way Now about concerts There are so many going on and that are booked I know a huge one going on soon is BTS KPOP group Theyll be touring America and Canada Im not sure if that will be cancelled or not It should|1 If you are used to flipping things online this is what you do I cant hate on this guys hustle trying to make a living the way he knows how Once you see something trending you get your hands on as much as you can Ive done this with limited edition cereal They wouldve restocked all he bought just like they restocked what I bought I dont understand the hate this guy is getting esp after donating what he had left|1 I dont think a lot of people are fully grasping how bad the numbers are even if they may sound okayWell if it makes you feel better Im truly fucking depressed over this virus|0 Oh you have no idea But thanks|1 Thats good ice cream|1 And also the state of medicine at that time Barbers were doctors and some doctors treated the flu patients with blood letting|0 Ship number 3|1 I hope they are really rich because travel from Europe into the US has been suspended for 30 days|1 Dr Michael Ryan looked hella guilty after that question Shifty eyes trying to not make eye contact with anyone He knows something|0 Please define oxygen support Nasal cannula at 1L or intubation on mechanical ventilation|1 Download Webtoons app so you can enjoy South Korean mangwhaTop mangwha if you like action you can readNoblesseGod of High SchoolTower of GodSoul CartelHardcore Leveling WarriorEleceedThe GamerThese mangwha comes with color pages Enjoy|1 Parking garages could make great ICU areas|1 I remember Zika But thats only because I caught it It was a very miserable flu like thing Plus the green mucus coming from my eyes That was honestly the most concerning part when I woke up and that was happening|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This its just the flu thing is about as asinine as it gets anyway influenza has by far the largest chance of being the next worst in 500 years type pandemic Like if there were reports of h5n1 with sustained human to human transmission yes its influenza but no it being Influenza doesnt mean it magically doesnt have a 60 mortality rate|0 You heard it here first soon well be looking at the CDC data scratching our heads as the hospitals fill up with patients with the flu Center of Disease Coverups is going to be working overtime on this one|0 Go John Lucid and responsible Hes saving lives while governments engage in doubletalk to protect the economy|1 Wtf liver damage lung damage kills healthy and young hunts the old for sport long incubation time very infectious a good number of cases are asymptomatic but still infectiousWhat the hell is this thing|0 Some places have deliveries from the govt or local community that brings necessities if someone is quarantined Also some areas have grocery delivery from the supermarket so they dont need to go anywhere just wait for the truck to drop the goods and leave then get them The first thing I mentioned will need to become the norm is quarantine is to work|0 I was desperately wishing Id worded it better because I know I sometimes sound like I ate a textbook when Im trying to think through ideas like this so this is really nice to hear Im so glad it made some amount of sense|1 Im sorry you are going through this I hope you and the others weather this safely I will be sending prayers|1 a CD is 700mb A DVD is 47 gig If you mean compressed then 700mb full movie is pretty bad quality below any kind of standard at all|0 Glycerine in vapes is actually a fairly strong anti bacterial and anti viral agent that affects lipid coated viruses including corona viruses Its used to treat burn victimsThis is no claim to efficacy in any way just an interesting observation|1 Look Im not an apologist for the CCP but when they realized it was going to be a serious problem they did take action|0 Well knowing now I wouldnt This is such a rapidly evolving situation In my city they JUST today broke the news of maybe closing all nonessential and its at this point still at the discretion of employers|0 Not like the system in Egypt was in fact totalitarian and slavery was normal|0 Oh we already are I live in snowbird central and they are all heading back early because they dont want to be quarantined down here|0 And if they dont want to pay marked up prices then its the nurses who get to suffer Me and my nurse friends are terrified right now We have to work we dont have enough PPE Thats not our fault My job is to take care of patients someone else fell down on the job and Im the one put at risk|0 Canada should take after USAs decision to stop travel from Europe entirely as well and stop USA travelers from entering Canada Of course allowing Canadian citizens to go back home but block everyone elseWe need to prevent this proactively not reactively|0 A zero interest loan is a donation|1 Oh stop|0 The fireside in Fort Asskickin Wisconsin Must be a WI attitude my parents live there and spent a leisurely day running errands at Kohls etc I was so mad I couldnt talk for a few seconds|0 People like you are what make the curve pointy|1 Some interesting names on this list Good to see scientists from all backgrounds who arent experts in public heath or disease control pulling togetherFTFYThe fucking director of the UCL Observatory is on there and half of them are students or lab techs|1 Im not familiar with meth addicts What would they do if no drugs were available|0 Thats what I thought immediately on reading this post Even if the Aged care facility is on the ball well staffed etc not all older people will be noticable they are suffering as well Its especially hard on dementia patients|1 Nope Weve been told to use our meager allotment of PTOsick pay if we get it|0 Can I have a large coronapounder with cheese meal please and a Coke Zero|1 This is exactly why I am worried So many people in the US without insurance andor without paid sick time They cant afford to not work for a week without pay because of sniffles and a cough Not to mention how many parents are forced to send their sick kids to school because the parents cant afford to take time off with them These are the heartbreaking situations that some Americans face on a daily basis This is what scares me the most right now Its not fear mongering its a sad fact of life|0 important factor Google shows results based on your browsing history For example when i search financial news it now always shows the site i use to track markets as first result becuase it knows i visit it frequentlyDuckduckgo does not do profiled preference for sites and even unceonsored result from both sites will look different as a resultalso if you use google account there is some setting where you can disable NSFW filters in google search that will disable most filtering like that|1 In Norway all kindergartens and schools are closed and immediately following the announcement they said to not let grandparents take care of the kids However this was to shield the old not because they suspect the children of anything|1 Then she gets the first flight out to safe 3rd country Korea Japan Malaysia etc and figures it out from there|1 With trump announcing he wants to get people paid and quick I think they will announce the payments and then announce a shutdown They will want to stop people from panicking as much as possible|0 Problem is how do you do that if the treatment time takes 12 weeks|0 Why arent more people thinking like this Save the beds for people that need them|1 And the dumbasses of this country whos momsgrandmas died to this shit will still believe himI fear youre right After however many people die there will possibly be plenty who say Well I didnt die so everythings great and Im gonna vote Trump again|0 I work in a large company who just did the same I just cancelled a trip for next week because it was not deemed essential|0 Because some people dont realizes banks dont give away free money and maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but someday were all gonna have to pay for this spending spree whether thats banks spiking up interest rates and fucking everyone over or whether thats the government increases taxes Some how some way were gonna have to pay up its a much better idea to stop mortgages stop loan payments stop all payments and let this virus take its course and fund the people on the front line with necessary things they need instead were giving away free money to people who cant pay for things in the first place does that make sense to you or do you think they are giving us the money with no strings attached|0 Thank you Jack|1 Its not a bail out They purchased assets at market prices to increase liquidity Dont distort the truth|1 We dont CT all pneumonia cases We just dont Folks get a CT if the practitioner believes they may have a PE or perhaps something else such as neoplasm Its not standard for pneumonia I fact it rarely happens unless the patient is in full on respiratory distress Even then again a Covid 19 cannot be ordered|0 Yes thats very possible too as the air quality there is terrible Doesnt stop my tinfoil hat from doing summersaults on my head though|1 I will be wishing nothing but the best for your mom I hope she will be ok|1 If you dont sue people infringing on your copyright you risk losing it As in forever Simple as that|0 Youre welcome|1 If this hits Canada we are fucked Hallway medicine will seem like a joke we will have to convert schools into hospitals Almost every hospital in Ontario currently runs at 95110 capacity for 36 months a year Even if this isnt a killer virus it will put a huge strain on healthcare|1 Sorry to be that guy but can i get a paraphrased versionEdit thank you for the paraphrased account it sounded like i should read the whole thing so i did Thank you again|1 It makes sense to be able to be infected by both strains simultaneously After all if you got cowpox back in the day you wouldnt have immunity to smallpox until after you recovered from it Same deal with vaccines in general your body needs time to build up defenses Im just wondering if once youve recovered from one particular strain do you only have antibodies for that one strain or are they compatible with both strains|0 The tracker I use posted numbers for the last 5 days and so far the number of confirmed cases has approximately doubled every day starting at 31 on the 18th Hopefully that trend doesnt continue any further Daily exponential growth gets real bad real fast|1 This thing has a 721 day asymptomatic incubation period and a 23 death rate in a nation full of elderly and diabetics Idk about you but thats pretty terrifying Not world ending save for the dead but as much a cause for concern as immigration or that bs management is pulling down the hall at your job Its well worth discussion|0 Some people would some people wouldnt or at least wouldnt work as much as if they were offered a big profit For example many people have stored masks in their homes in Spain since the outbreak started Dont you think that offering some money for them instead of asking them for a donation would be much more effectiveOffering a high profit is the best way to guarantee an increment in the supply|1 Yep These are very smart people Im talking to who dont believe this is worse than the flu and they all take the flu seriously and get a flu shot Its literally just the normalcy bias because the worst is not in front of them right now Theyre in denial|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share 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Whitmer does the same in the next 24 hours|1 Incubation I think you mean Intubation for 2 weeks is terrifying|0 it gives you a sense of how many could be infectedin real world number A ball park if we do not act swiftly|0 I couldnt agree more and thank you for sharing I am just not hearing of very many people taking this seriously in my community which is concerning Prayers you and your family are kept safe and during Doctor office visits especially |1 I just got my 2nd kid and a 3 year old Its difficult now with daycare closed and no grandparents that can babysit but its doable Every day you get a bit more adapted to the situation|0 Unfortunately its really hard to predict Singapore and China have some in the testing stages and other countries are far along in the lab stages of development but it will depend on how good the results turn out to be the ease of manufacturing and how individual agencies approach this from a policy perspective It could be weeks to months|1 CNN is now reporting that the cap theyre talking about is closer to 75100K per household This is going to miss a lot of people in high COL areas Of course the airline industry will get billions|0 You do realize many many people pull that many hours or more in low paying jobs to pay for their apartments no insurance included and then have no energy to increase skillsets ignoring the fact you need resources to pay for increasing skillsets and some nominal raw talentintelligence to do so that not everyone has|0 I thought that term was inoculum and viral load was an ongoing measure of how much virus is in you I could be wrong|0 Yeah which means that people from all over the world are flying back home with a possible time bomb|0 Downvote me all you want but I think Germany is full of shit|0 They have a major immigration issue that no one will talk about|0 One of the provinces helped selling sashimi using drive thru I like how government takes initiative to help these people|1 You should be concerned as long as shes not dying isolate her and take of her I dont think her ending up in a quarantine center would be good for her Take care of her the best you can and spend every last minute with her Dont wait till she cant talk anymore from not being able to breathe anything you need to say to her say it now If she ends up being Okay then thats awesome Take care and God bless you|1 AMAZING Cant believe its that simple|1 And thats why people need to take it serious It could end up being in you for lifecausing permanent damage or it could just be a bad flu Either way we need to keep all the doors open until the experts can definitively close them as they discover more about the virus|0 It okay hes gay anyway so its not weird|1 Yep he is a shill Notice he has never mentioned actual figures|1 Unless people are walking through naked which obviously they are not then all this does is possibly maybe kill viruses on peoples clothing hair|0 Filter layer has no organic compounds whats there to degrateAll the masks i saw were packaged in plastic no way to catch dustA quick Google give me thishttpssafetytownsquare3mcanadacaarticleswhydodisposablerespiratorshaveadefinedshelflifeSo in a way it isnt just about the filter Its about the fitting mechanism If a mask doesnt fit its pointless No you buy 15th of a batch per year and use 15th of the batch per year on a rotating basisIt is entirely up to your local government who will decide how much stock they will keep You know who will not keep such a huge stockpile Retailers Thats why you are unable to purchase it off the shelves Its not that Government doesnt have the stock they have for their use on the front line and other important locations Not retailers who wont make much profit if stock stays in their warehouseWarehouse space for this will be nothing compared to healthcare expenditure not even worth considering hereAs what I mentioned There is a difference between retail stock and government stipulated stockpile|0 Ok Boomer|1 Yep bars and restaurants closed in Washington tomorrow Soon it will all be shut down|1 A much better way to calculate the fatality rate is Deaths vs Recovered Its a lot more accurate than The guy who got diagnosed a few hours ago vs The guy who died after having it for a month|0 Peak number in Wuhan was about 4000 something a day And one day it jumps to 14000 because they didnt have time to test they decided to confirm those with obvious symptoms without testing|1 And we have guns to protect ourselves We are not neutered sheep|1 Actually it is chloroquine China has done some intro research as well and found chloroquine is mildly effective|1 Yeah unfortunately its just the flu bro might end up being true for the people saying that ie 2040 year oldsCrazily enough Ive heard its just the flu coming from elders mostly Some of the older generation can be stubborn as fuck particularly older men ie my dad|0 My current private coverage doesnt do thatAlmost certainly it does How have you tested it Gotten cancer Needed a new drug that runs 1000mo|0 I just puked in my mouth a little bit Pray it away Mike Pence|0 Is Canada charging non residents though Like those on tourist visas|1 Its not only people in the UK who are ignorant to this its people in the entire western world except Northern Italy hotzoneIt annoys me all the medical experts on TV who say not to wear a mask whilst not quoting any data for their claim Look at that third link of yours basically even a piece of cloth will work better than nothing If whole of society wore a mask of some sort it would cut down the R0 of this massively But nobody gives a shitWhen people say masks dont work I ask them what about seat belts They dont guarantee your survival in a car crash either Neither does an air bag Nor does side impact protection Nor does energy absorbing steering assembly Nothing guarantees anything But each measure gives some incremental protection it is worth itI mean whats the price of a bloody mask Some small dent to a persons pride is this why westerners wont wear them and some even laugh at asians doing so I dont understand|0 It would help if he didnt fire the head epidemiologist 2 years ago|1 Nice disaster porn I give it 710 Emmerichs|0 Can you check their temperature Wouldnt hurt to start checking and recording your own twice daily too the CDC will probably just tell you to follow precautionshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpguidancepreventspreadhtmlprecautions Treat your housemate as if infected and notify authorities as soon as you get any symptoms Heres hoping they just have a cold|1 About 14 of confirmed cases in China 55000 required supplemental oxygen About 6 developed respiratory failure which I assume would mean assisted ventilation but Ill let the docs tackle that one Brenda|0 Please do your research Epidemiologists the world over have stated this virus is likely to become endemic and estimates of infections are all above 50 this year|1 I think youre missing the point entirely The stats say that 10 of people getting infected go into critical condition and need mechanical ventilation in an ICUThat will destroy the healthcare system of every single country That will impact everyone healthy or not|0 I dont know why we need a study for thisThe only way China has curbed the rate of increase was to quarantine a city of millions and put travel restrictions on 600 million othersCountries that put these types of methods in place early have had much more success than countries that havent Many places all across the globe are experiencing increasing exponential growth in cases and as a result deathsMoney is made up bullshit anyways Time for humanity to take one for the team and value lives over profit Lock this bitch down|1 Im trying to think of a country that hasnt had an infection yet Maybe you can help me find one|1 I get the sentiment but bro the president by definition is the have Hes not just sole rich guy|0 Oh but it is painful Joker laugh|1 Yeah no China has full approval to go beyond pollution levels that are safe we soon as the factories spin back upAlso global dimming is a huge issue and will warm the planet even fasterWhat a dumb poorly researched article|1 Remember that Chinese woman who went to France and hid her symptoms Remember how this thread went all what is wrong with those people and their awful cultureI love when the same thing happens to Americans the same type of comment gets downvotedBecause when a Chinese person does something selfish its a reflection of the entire Chinese people When case after case of Americans doing something selfish its a reflection of an individual Interesting observation|0 this as far as my understanding goes if you just get a few particles of a virus inon you it has a less chance of infecting Staying indoors or anywhere close with the same air gives you prolonged exposure more viral material happy to be wrong|1 The mind is powerful thing You can literally trick yourself into thinking youre sick symptoms and all|0 Its amazing how many people arent doing this I got a manicure last week and the woman after me walked in and just sat right down Neither she nor the manicurist washed their hands And today I was at a different salon and saw the same thing Its just unreal|1 Im more scared of the flu|0 The whole country is more or less in lockdown so everyone is in de facto quarantine except for getting groceries Ive been working from homeI have a friend who is borderline homeless she has a masters degree in Crisis Management but all of her work experience is from running daycares in order to pay her bills while studying No one will hire her because shes either overqualified or underqualified for everything so if you know anyone whos hiring please contact me Yes shes willing to travel for a steady job The isolation is driving her crazy with worries about finding work and preparing for upcoming holidaysI have another friend who has had traumatic experiences in her life and her home life is dramatic Getting out of the house and living a normal life keeps her groundedThat meme going around about millenials being excited for the prospects of cheap travel with a chance of dying Its real|0 They probably wont invest in the company but they probably will offer some sort of financial bailout not just to Norwegian Air but to most private businesses in Norway As they did in the financial crisis which Norway made it through nearly unscathed compared to the rest of the world|0 The bill only has unpaid leave for like 20 of workers As usual Pelosi hands out concessions like candy instead of fighting for something the people would overwhelmingly back her on|1 No healthcare anywhere is free|1 Fantastic news|1 I begrudgingly agree|1 Facebook or any multi media they use will block it|0 Publishing data like this is very disingenuous and disgusting because its clearly for a political end Its way way way too early to know these numbers|1 Theyre going to look really bad if they dont cancel the primaries|0 I think with climatebiosphere issues the nuclear threat overpopulation an increase in new viruses this probably wont be the last possible shift in world power over the coming decades the many groups that want to bring about Armageddon potential return to despotism in many places loss of faith by many in institutionsshared beliefs that held large populations together Artificial intelligence gone wrong human gene altering etc there is the potential for many more disruptive events Check out the doomsday clock website They have a great explanation of why they have it closer to midnight than ever before Then again maybe youre right and its all great from here on out Maybe next year we find a new clean fuel source and the world suddenly works together Who knows But I cant be the only one with a little unease at all the potential problems that loom|0 Thats not scary at all Its likely millions already have it and arent even awareThat puts that actual IFR a couple times higher than the seasonal flu which isnt good but its not this 5 of the worlds population is going to die rhetoric weve been seeing|0 No nonchalance just appreciative of actually data so i can quantify the damage rather than throw out blanket statements such as the world is ending or im not a doomsday prepper but i heard all of china is quarantined61million out of 13billion isnt muchNow if you come back with numbers and say 500million are quarantined from this city and this and this id greatly appreciate itIm putting forth some effort please meet me halfway I appreciate your concern but i wont just take your word for it You shouldnt either|1 Hopefully Americans will realize the importance of universal healthcare|1 Worst case scenario3700 people1 new infection every 14 days until everyone is infectedThats 51800 daysWho wouldnt want to spend 142 years on a cruise ship sWow Those poor people After spending 4 nights on a cruise ship I was ready to get off|0 If an employees feels sick they are encouraged to go home and they wont be penalized We have eliminated the need for people to gather in close proximity and we have spaced all the lunch chairs more than 6 apart We are figuring out ways to recycle any damaged products we cant distribute in our own facility to keep sanitizing and wiping everything down as frequently as we can with what janitorial staff we have|0 IMHO yellow press Libero is a right wing newspaper that titled That pain in the ass now to the Pope when Greta Thunberg visited the Vatican or most recently about COVID19 Jan 24 Chinese people eat snakes and then die Feb 23 Slaughter tests by the Govt after the outbreak and the quarantine Feb 27 Lets calm down Its an exaggeration and the PM is inadequate which would seem against the other title Mar 03 No shaking of hands only Roman Salute nazi saluteOr last year when commeting about national statistics GDP down but gay people upI mean The Italian Press Association also denounced within its system the newspaper for a couple of first pages about COVID19|0 I frequent the Los Angeles subreddit and it astounds me the amount of people who are happy the marathon still took place Someone legitimately said I didnt do all this training for nothing Like seriously|1 Utilitarianism in its purist formEdit that wasnt meant to be offensive btw but a valid observation Doesnt mean I agree with it|0 Even if a barpubrestaurant closes and pays their employees its not going to be anything like they get paid with tips|1 TBH Im a human and microbiome geneticist and dont know enough about the advantages of an ELISA also open to many sources of biases from my very limited experience or antibody test Wish I could help more sorry |1 If the UK were a US state it would be the 50th poorest out of 51 on a per capita basis slightly edging out Mississippi for the bottom spot|0 From a nurse httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf513zmnursing101caringforyourlovedonesathomeIts a great thread for home care As always consult your doctor like right freaking now if you need oxygen at homeFrom the thread aboveId say if your says are consistently dropping below around 92 you should think about oxygen The AHA says 94 but in real life some people hang out there at baseline so their sick time sats will be a bit lower If you do need oxygen and that is outside of your normal home treatment routine you need to go to the doctorhospital Thats not something to mess around with unless you have a doctors guidance Home oxygen is definitely a thing but you need education and training for thatBlood pressure becomes less than 95 systolic with several readings top number Pulse oximeter reads 90 consistently Heart rate is above the 100teens with adequate hydration and fever control Your family member is struggling to breathe using any accessory muscles for breathing watch YouTube videos Your family member gets confused These all represent signs of brewing sepsis or ARDS acute respiratory distress syndrome the developing syndrome by which corona viruses lead to the death of most patients and need immediate medical attention|0 Some early studies indicate that temperature and humidity may not have a significant affect on transmission These are preprint studies so take them with caution Temperature significant change COVID19 Transmission in 429 citieshttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022220025791v1The role of absolute humidity on transmission rates of the COVID19 outbreakhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022467v1However I have not yet seen a study on likely effects of more UV radiation from sunlight as the days begin to get longer in the northern hemisphere where most of the community transmission has occurred so far As cases and transmission starts to occur in the southern hemisphere this becomes harder to explain|0 A coronavirus like this doesnt come around that often China was correct about SARS despite claims they lied|1 I want to see them enforcing 15m in between children That guy must not have children or has no idea how they act Another interesting fact is that children are main vectors in case of outbreaks they are like small bioreactors they will rarely get really sick but they will shed virus all over the place on every surface and to everybody they encounter Social distancing and staying home is THE ONLY usable solution Especially with Virus that is potentially deadly to older people and completely harmless to children Any epidemiologist would tell you that|1 True that sounded like a serious ordeal|1 Cancelling is a good idea but I wouldnt bet on Japan doing it especially since theres tons of money involved Their economy isnt doing good and will be worse if they dont receive a much needed boostThat said I really dont think sports should be a priority in this predicament Its important that people get well and to try and contain the spread as best as possible Also I would imagine since the economy of Japan is doing badly by the time the Olympics rolls around people there and in a lot of countries will likely be unemployed or underemployed Whatever little money some people will have left must go into essentials I doubt many consumers will have enough money leftover to spend it on sports and entertainmentI could see the Olympics being used as a perfect smoke screen for the real underlying issues ahead|1 Looks like the preview of an overrun testing building in Division 2|1 200000 infected persons in China doesnt look farfetched considering the number of cases found in evacuated foreigners|0 The Atlantic could only verify that 1895 people have been tested for the coronavirus in the United States about 10 percent of whom have tested positivehttpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive202003howmanyamericanshavebeentestedcoronavirus607597|1 I was just denied a test from my healthcare provider|0 It can happen my wife just gave birth Oddly enough it seems to affect the melanin level as well because my baby is not white Very strange disease|1 Seems like its just getting a foothold in Japan now|1 Protect yourself man Careful|1 Ah thanks for clarifying Yes I completely agree although theres the exceptions of situations like Snowbirds people who go away in October and typically come back in April not just your typical vegasmexicoetc goers But anyone who left the country recently is silly|1 thats the best part theyll rub it right back into mine when they learn how to make fake obituaries its hilarious|1 Well its a really bad flu|0 ah the headphone jack that thing I seldom use but I like to know that its there in case I need itI could accept a phone without the jack but I dont want one with face ID I mean without touch I D|1 Construction You get a month off if you stay in the company 5 years I doubt I will last that long Im used to nonprofits|0 Republicans are motivated to not have the entire economy tank under their watch The fact that republicans in the senate have torpedoed a relief bill for workers pretty much daily while the economy nosedives would indicate that this is horseshit|1 What the fuck|0 pregnant women and babies have very boosted immune system maybe the virus is surpressed so much that i didnt get to the baby also digestive systems are connected and its already confirmed that its transmissible that way|1 I appreciate the very thorough responseI work at a place where LOTS of people handle objects that we have to afterwards People have been coughing and sneezing everywhere and since corona has been so early Ive been the only one really concerned and wiping stuff Its ironic because out of all my employees I wash my hands aggressively often The thing is we all share microphones too and take phonecalls We use tablets for sign in and I tend to sanitize them by habit but its impossible when we are backtoback an entire day with over 100 peopleI recently was told by Telehealth to go to the ER and as a test taken as well as am in quarantine My manager is totally fine with it and it was all worked out Our big main boss is kinda downplaying it but he doesnt work out location Im waiting for results at the moment Covid or not its pretty shitty cause my lungs and breathing have gotten bad and Im tired as heck Im hoping its not corona and just some weird flu but thats wishful thinkingIts ironic cause although I was the most concerned about it I joked with my coworkers the other week If I go down youre all going down with me Lol rip|1 Lots of posts explaining it on this sub but basically the bias that life will continue as normal|0 The debate over this in the UK is becoming dangerously politicised Im being genuine when I say this it could cost many lives The governments plan will work if everyone buys into it Thats the big question though sadly We cannot allow scientific and expert decisions to be influenced by blind panic political bias and public pressure Hopefully the guys at the top are made of stern enough stuff to make the tough decisions and risk becoming a pariah|0 Yeah I usually roll my eyes when anyone talks about panic Ive only seen one person freaking out over this and that was turned into a very funny meme Im basing my opinion on the facts known about the virus and my government is contradicting those facts Obviously Im going to call my government out on that regardless of their reasoning because it pisses me off|0 It could get fairly substantially worse huh|0 Thank you for your reasonable and common sense post|1 I must not fear Fear is the mindkiller Fear is the littledeath that brings total obliteration I will face my fear I will permit it to pass over me and through me And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path Where the fear has gone there will be nothing Only I will remain Frank Herbert Dune|1 What seriously did people just upvote this post without actually fucking factchecking Im a Swede and the country didnt increase with 2 million Running tracks arent being removed like holy shit people its this type of misinformation thats dangerous|0 The CDC is also severely underfunded and is under the Trump administration I would say the current administration is at fault here not the CDC|0 The CDC is being controlled by the White House You cant find what you are not looking for and the reason is the economy We are the only country having trouble with testing|0 Can the mods please verify or remove this post|1 Trudeaus mediaYoure a fucking crazy person|0 Oh yeah theyre rank I worked and managed a checkout department Equally staff can be rank too and the checkouts themselves are absolutely filthy from belt to scanningscales area to packing area Also the cashier has handles all sorts of stuff made contact with strangers handled their cash packed their bags etc Id personally rather my chances on self service and handle my own bags no bag licking from the cashier and try minimal contact with the screen Once done a bit of hand gel and then pick up my bags|1 In Slavic languages can has the same meaning as may so fuck off with your american arrogance|0 The only one I heard of was a pretty big drug store in Beijing that got slap with a huge fine for selling masks at a pretty steep price I am torn between against price ceiling yet also against price gauging|1 Not related but also interesting doctors also in every country|1 Yes there are so many things like that I keep thinking about People licking envelopes exchanging money|1 I hated Andrew Cuomo before this whole shit show startedbut he has absolutely earned his respect He has done more for NY than all Federal yes men combined have done for the entire countryNew Yorkers should show grattitude you guys have a real pitbull looking out for your interests He is a leader|0 At this time no child died because of the virus but it could happen bacause hospitals are full|0 If they havent yet two weeks of baked beans will ensure they have|1 It wasnt a goal it was another attempt at controlling short term panic|0 You can easily get some the CCP turns a blind eye to local manufacture of drugs as long as theyre being shipped out of the country Or is that just fentanyl|0 Its not standard and really shouldnt be under normal circumstances You dont want to give people unnecessary chest Xrays or CT scans doctors strive to limit overall radiation exposure in patients Mild cases of pneumonia generally dont need to have their cause determined unless the patient isnt improving Obviously it makes sense to test now that theres a new virus that needs investigating in the general population but its not like theyve been remiss in the past|0 IT IS A FUCKING BAD FLUIts bad because everyone is getting it simultaneously and hospitals ARE INDEED OVERWHELMEDPlaces that have successfully slowed down the Spread HAVE HAD PRETTY MINUTE DEATH RATES LESS THAN THE ACTUAL FLULike holy fuck there is some serious fear mongering on this issue It isnt the virus thats bad but how quickly its spreading If you dont have enough beds for the elderly and preexisting condition patients of course theyre going to die|0 I got it in 2017 and ended up in the ER with a heart rate of 160 I ended up having mastitis on top of the flu so its hard to separate the two but I was back at the doctor after a week asking if there was anything else they could do because I was still totally nonfunctional which was a problem since I had a 3 month old and got the reply we can admit you to the hospital but youll be just as miserable there I didnt have a particularly severe case of the flu and it takes a lot for me to feel bad enough to just lay around I have chronic bronchitis and asthma so a cough or simple body aches is not usually enough to keep me home The fact that I was in the ER after a day or so and took another 2 weeks to get off the couch no thank you And all of that was after getting my flu shot which is supposed to make the flu more mild if you do still get itCOVID might just present like a cold for a bunch of people but Id just as soon not risk it I still remember having fever dreams under a heated blanket and totally unable to stop shivering Ugh|0 That concert shouldve been cancelled |0 I so agree with this statement I have said it alot to people and they look at me funny|1 I work in catering in NC and all of our events are already cancelled|0 Auscheinde Free for covid 19 Had the same problem|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Its so ridiculous that Trump took one of the biggest national security threats his administration has had to face and just delegated it to his underling Like what the actual fuck How is that acceptable leadership|0 It is dying down in China even though they acted too late because the cities instituted military and police enforced quarantines You can either act early and be spared or act later and act hard|0 Do you have a link to that Im in the US and think this is the case here as well but Id like to see it|1 Sweden got 161 cases now and the Swedish CDC Folkhlsomyndigheten says that children cant spread the virus to other children Hope my uni closes soon|1 I work as an artist Relations coordinator for a huge festival in the summer If the festival goes under I lose my job Fuck me|1 Move all production facilities out of China Companies need to decide if this dependence on such a society is worth the costs Consumers need to stop buying products made by Chinese slaves who lack any freedoms|0 We could literally just order the materials and make them in our homes Kind of makes me wonder if Im actually surrounded by zombies The philosophical kind See philosophical zombies|1 Super entitled all these people who are going out and partying this weekend for St Pattys Day They still dont think this is gonna be bad but its about to get really really bad|0 15 infected in Norway now|0 Benevolent is my middle name|1 Better than absolutely nothing Just because you have a decent job doesnt mean your have spare money for bills I have very little savings right now unfortunately|1 Bought the farm is a euphemism for dyingSorry all the WFH is driving me a little stir crazy|0 About as much as I trust someone from rthedonald|1 Im supposed to go to a wedding next week in Arizona and I live in California Im freaking out man Oh btw Im a fucking hairstylist too But I called out because I had a low grade fever and vomiting and diarrhea but no cough or anything|0 I just watched the movie Contagion 2011 the other night and holy shit was it relevant Would definitely recommend that one|0 Both of them are considered ethnic slurs Gook would be the other one which was also used as a derogatory term during the Korean and Vietnam War|0 it every day No good deed goes unpunished Doing nothing is the norm Trying hard and making a mistake gets you punished Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 285 Star Trek|0 Song Yingjie you are a hero Thank you from America my friend rest easy|1 No question and answer period for him eh Can someone set up a Skype account for him so he can face us and tell us why hes letting the Canadian ship adrift in stormy seas|0 Ive been trying to convince my closest relatives and friends for weeks None of them took me seriously my mom 60 threatened to call a psychiatrist on me and all of them think that Im crazy I stopped trying Just knowing that most of them are going to have a very hard time once it hits here is too painful for me to even think about But hey at least I tried Cant help them out with anything once its here and if they still havent done anything to prepare for this its on them Cant help people who dont want to be helped Not because Im evil but because I simply dont have the money to prep for them as well|0 yes Im aware of Laurentian and hope universities are planning on shut downs immediately but right now its still all systems go|1 That is how you kill people There are treatments out there that needs to be started before severe symptoms So many people are going to die because if this|0 lol Reddit never fails to show its left wing colours You were agreeing but because you painted remainers in a bad light you got downvoted Reddit is a joke|1 Lol your post history Calm down sally|1 I would rather compare the seriousness of coronavirus to the flu I understand that its a new virus and that its scary but the amount of slowing down this is doing to the worldwide economy and functioning is incredible and its for A coronavirus not THE coronavirus If you are under the age of 60 years old you will certainly be sick but have a less than a 2 mortality rate I do realize that all lives matter however eventually we will be able to study the virus a bit better and come to understand how to better treat it I fee so strongly about this because it is shutting down schools closing down flights and borders slowing down the stock market and economy overall and it isnt that horrible of a disease There are likely countless unreported cases that would bring the death rate lower and there have been and are currently worse diseases out there and spreading that are just as severe I am by no means an expert so if someone who is wants to come over and tell me exactly why it is that this virus in particular is so dangerous that would be great I just feel that the scariest thing about this virus isnt the virus itself but rather the reaction to it|0 I think it means that her symptoms have gone away And the test results came back negative|0 Nice of them to help but this is just a PR move from China to try and get you to forget how badly they fucked this up|0 Thats another thing Comorbidities increase chances of death but arent exclusive We had a 32 yo pt who has no underlying health issues who nearly died Half of his lung functions wasnt working when he was admitted Without direct medical intervention he would have died|0 I spent a few months in the region with a sick toddler and can attest to the speed quality and friendliness of the public health system there That the virus is spreading so quickly and that the health system is getting overwhelmed is cause for real concern If northern Italy cant handle the outbreak Im not sure anywhere will do much better|1 Knowing Starbucks they wont give their employees shit and theyll be forced to work as long as possible|0 100 Dude alert not anxious|1 How dare you ask me to lose my job and risk losing everything I own to be cautious|0 Well so far theres no proof of that|0 In many countries we expect a considerable number of unreported cases For a rough estimate one can infer the true size of the epidemic from the number of patients that have already died In Switzerland for example there are now 9 deaths On average it takes 3 weeks until a person dies from COVID19 Given a case fatality ratio of 1 there must have been around 900 cases 3 weeks ago With a doubling time of one week this makes 1800 3600 and 7200 so far So the number of unreported cases in Switzerland might be quite high|0 Im calling it Pornhub is going to give out free test accounts or something Theyre fucking smart and this would be a goldmine for good PR for them|1 Finally Global warming is helping us out a bit|1 EVERY situation is better when you are well off|1 Well property tax can be suspended and wont be collected right away correct And maintenance theres short term and long term If its a lot of long term expenses then that can be deferred|0 Way back in high school I had a friend tell me she hates people I laughed it off and thought nothing too much of it Fast forward some years later Im thinking the same exact thing and finally understand what she meant|1 If its China just assume its a lie until they can provide actual proof Notice how there arent tons of Chinese posters saying how great it is to be back to work Dont you think theyd like to let the world know that theyre sort of okay and are currently picking things back up|1 My colleges toilets keep running out of soap and are having trouble restocking|0 I dont think a vaccine is expected to be ready to be distributed to people until mid2021 but there are several treatments for covid19 that are being investigated and look very promising I think were supposed to get clinical trials for remdesivir in April and for chloroquine sometime in the next couple of months as well There may be others Im not familiar with all the trials they have going onIf those trials prove successful at treating covid19 well likely see a gradual shift back to normal but certainly not go back all at once as we would still need to avoid overwhelming the medical systemI dont really know what the coming months will look like but Im hopeful that at least the treatment options will improve soonish so well be less helpless when someone gets severely sick|1 I have type 2 as well Im working on getting out and walking more being extra vigilant with my diet and as much as possible minimizing contact with others Just be careful be mindful and you should be fine Good luck out there|1 Oops well thats embarrassing|0 I do understand where youre coming from with this here But the one major unknown factor in all of this thus far is we dont actually know the mortality or morbidity rate and we wont for quite a while years with the mass amount of data being thrown at state public health labs For anyone looking for internships Im sure theyre going to LOVE you hahaSo while I agree it will increase there is also the projection of larger than real numbers initially because we just dont know how many are asymptomatic had a small cough and cleared it with both having low infecting All of those people arent going to enter the infection pool again throwing off projection numbers and rates like now because the test only is looking for current viral presence not infected at any timeAs I said to the other guy though ultimately take the precautions you feel is best for you and your family Stay safe out there|1 The whole area is extremely weird about this tbh This morning our medical insurance advised that my son be tested there are multiple reasons they advised this and I spoke with a medical provider who gave me the same advice But our ER turned us away They told us we were just panicking and should go home They didnt tell us to quarantine or even evaluate him Im not panicking yet but Im concerned as he has a history of nasty respiratory infections Although I understand why they dont want to test someone who is mildly ill its frustrating that the public is being told repeatedly to have mild symptoms evaluated if weve been in certain parts of the Seattle area which he has It seems like our state and in particular our city thinks this is going to just blow over|0 What a surprise|1 Tbh I welcomed the much needed laugh |1 NO absolutely not I am glad celebs havent been out there speaking about this theyre not doctors they are not knowledgeable about these things and I cant BELIEVE you think its important to listen to actors and singers about science and medicine like WTF no wonder this society is full of morons yall think celebrities should be informing you HELL NO|0 1 Some people have multiple passports2 Travel within the EU is not clear from a passport|0 Who is most at risk|0 Oh quit with the bullshit We arent talking about building highways we are talking about how to thwart the spread of a virus in the USA There is NO WAY Americans would accept the level of quarantine restricted movements etc that China has done NO WAY People can be asked to work from home people can be ASKED to do things but its the choice of every person whether they follow this advice or not CHINA MANDATED ALL OF THIS because their system of Government and control of people allow for it Are you even American Because you sound like someone that has NO IDEA how Americans feel about their individual rights and their general feelings about the health care system|1 Another factor is that the socalled mild cases are really not severe enough to require oxygen or ventilator support mild includes really nasty pneumonia So messagingwise theyre really sending the wrong signals here|0 True but Trump himself is a raging conspiracy theorist or a master strategist at manipulating people who harbor such conspiracies|0 I have had a standard spicy chicken sandwich Chicken lettuce and mayo What else could be sweet andor spicy wings on several occasions Ive been living in China 9 years and tried a few times McDonalds has the best fried chicken over here|1 I agreeand just playing devils advocate herehe also kind of sounds like a scolded child being forced to read an apology letter to his class after getting caught stealing money He clearly doesnt like having to play this role and it cant be lost on him that a week ago he said the cases were quickly going to zero|1 Unless the cases are spread out very far and very evenly which is highly improbable Even if some how we had 10000 per state and it some how only hit healthy people that bounce back easily I dont know how we wouldnt have noticed something by nowEDIT Even if that very improbable scenario was the case we would have noticed those healthy people developing ARDS and PneumoniaEDIT 2 The only advantage we have over other countries we dont greet everyone with kisses to the cheeks less densely populated and we have more of a car culture rather than public transport Even with all of that however I doubt we wouldnt have noticed hospitals being overwhelmed|1 Lol like you can save for retirement in the US If you or your spouse is diagnosed with cancer say goodbye to every single penny of savings you have accumulated in any form cuz you are going to pay your entire health insurance deductible every year for many years|1 More like they KNOW were stupid We elected trump for fuck sake|0 Are you done spamming my inbox by deleting your messages and posting a different one over and over again The narrative keeps changing back and forth depending on the subject of discussion it has nothing to do with time|0 Speaking of the election the r0 rate of 3something suggesting 60 of the population will catch it the 64 mortality rates for the 7079 year olds in China FWIW greater mortality rates for males and heart disease being the greatest risk factor in COVID 19 mortality if Bernie and Trump are the candidates odds are greater than 5050 that theyll both catch it and die especially given their likely and known heart health problems|1 I think you have to be willingly ignorant to still not be educated about the virus at this point|0 I apologise for bothering you Im also in Victoria and work in retail I would say my chances are high How long ago did this all happen My fiance is immunocompromised so Im terrifiedEdit I just read your other comment Im in the south east where abouts are you This is horrifying Im glad you made a full recovery though thats really good news|1 COVID19 is a good for a code name but definitely sucks as a nameShows how ignorance the WHO is|0 This will get buried because Im too late to the party I work for a Vacation Rental company in Florida x200BIve been living in a dystopian world these last 2 weeks I was watching this back in January and was concerned then we did nothing as a country Then news broke at the end of February and we saw an overnight 40 cancellation rate at our company for travel I had hoped sanity had won Then more people booked the time up because their cruises cancelled and we saw more nothing from any leader from local to federal x200BWere sold out for most weekends and there is nothing we can do about it We cant tell these people to go home everything is still open we cant close the bookings because we would be fired by our owners or by actual bosses But every indication is that these people are going to make this so much worse Our local city council did a live stream today and it was every bit of CYA waiting for the state to do something so they dont get voted out for closing the beach And the state is waiting for Trump to do something so they dont get voted out x200BIve advised my team to self isolate as much as possible while maintaining operations Its a terrible place to be in Our entire team is being threatened on a daily basis by our guests because we cant cancel until someone in a position in authority say dont travel here No one in our government hasnt given us any hint of leadership x200BIm not scared for my team were all younger But Im worried for the countless grandparents who are going to come in contact with one of our clueless guests theyre essentially play Russian roulette with their families lives x200BIm worried and feel helpless to stop this Sucks most days right now x200BBut hey were making money FML|0 Dont forget the toilet paper|1 They might be using up nonN95 masks Regular masks dont do anything significant for airborne diseases and waste resources better used in droplet precautions|0 Agreed but good to see that theres less political handwringing than in more places|1 God will understand my lord And if he doesnt then he is not God and we need not worry |1 I dont even know what to say so sorry for your friend Im so sorry for everyone|1 scary reply but very true|1 No that just makes it slightly easier to put on weight Very slightly like a couple hundred calories of a difference in metabolism The weight gain is still caused by overeating|1 Oh shit that must be unnervingGood luck and stay safe|1 As far as Im aware the major papers looking at patient characteristics reported on COPD and smokers but not asthmaIf you look at other respiratory viruses such as flu asthmatics are more likely to suffer severe symptoms be hospitalized and suffer more complications so its probably reasonable to make the same assumption for COVIDIn general if your asthma is wellcontrolled your risk profile is likely to be substantially reduced|0 Yeah a pandemic could originate anywhere but this specific one originated in ChinaChina reacted that way because the virus ravaged them they wouldnt care about it otherwise They were more concerned about their economy they didnt want flights to stop They are also complacent in the spread of this thing Youre right that the West hasnt been doing shit but neither was China initially Remember the Chinese New Year this yearIn the west people just dont care about something until it actually starts to affect them Thats the problem of the West and it is a bad mindset no matter what situation you find yourself in|0 I believe the test has been made free for those who can get it Testing kits are just extremely scarce|1 In Wuhan doctors noticed that no SLE patient was infected by the virus The worked for some busy days of comparing analyzing and study It turns out the reason might be that SLE patients taking chloroquine regularlyAfter some quick clinical trial chloroquine is introduced in the 6th edition of treatment published by Chinese governmentHowever it is not suggested for people to take chloroquine on their own A Wuhan woman had bought some herself for prevention and taken overdose that she was taken to ICU|0 One can hope But Im not holding my breath|1 Well you also have to consider that was still in the beginning of the CCP People were naive uneducated and blindly following the Party because it was supposed to be the government for the people If that happened today I think it would be really different|1 Ok sorry|1 I live in Washington state My county has seen the outbreak King County Wa with 10 deaths and 14 cases here in Washington I have a 9yr old and am keeping her home because I dont work my husband does Im so glad I found this post because all week Ive been so nervous to send her considering the public school system seems to be waiting until some children die I understand that not all parents have this option due to work relatedhome related issues Im going to stick with my guns and attempt to do home studies for the remainder of the year Im sad for her because she has a lot of friends Also the laws here on excused absences are a little absurd Over all here I think you have to do do your job in being proactive and what that means for you I just hope the school is reasonable in their response to the families that have made this decision|1 I used my translator on the page and from what I can tell of his symptoms it sounds more like a cold than a flu even I didnt see where it said he even had a fever But my translator result looked really weirdand I dont read Europeansowho know But guess what there is a test for the flu anyway|0 If the newer models are delayed does that mean my 6S will still have software support for a while longer Asking for a broke friend|1 How can we explain the differing growth patterns across countriesDaily numbers of new cases appear to be stabilising in China despite it being a huge country with the main epidemic centred only on one province I would expect to see cases rising steadily in other parts of the country not yet as badly affected as Hubei Similarly Singapore and Hong Kong where cases do not appear to be rising quickly eitherIn Iran Western Europe and the US meanwhile cases are now rising quickly with Italy leading the way There appears to be a tacit acceptance from governments that the outbreaks cannot be contained and will inevitably burn through entire populationsAre these differences just a matter of timing meaning we can expect to see sustained outbreaks more or less everywhere eventually Or have the mitigatory actions taken by some countries proved successful|1 They seem to already be panicking|0 i started being anxious two weeks ago its been amazing to watch the country turn on a dime this week|1 According to a random article I just foundEssential businesses are ones that the public rely on in their daytoday life This includes banks hospitals supermarkets pharmacies gas stations post offices and the like They carry supplies necessary for survival both in the long and shortterm In contrast nonessential businesses are those that people frequent for pleasure like gyms bars restaurants movie theaters museums and concert halls among others|1 Exactly Honestly the government downplaying it tight now might be the best thing Itll allow people to remain calm and not overwhelm the healthcare system so they can treat those who actually need it The downside is that no one will take neccessary precautions to prevent it|1 Just saw an article about this Basically you are either on a machine or dead Id count them out and say the toll is more like 9k put of 90k|0 It MIGHT be the right thing to do But at this point it also might have basically no effect whatsoever|0 The curse of Cassandrahttpswwwnprorg20180917648781756thecassandracursewhyweheedsomewarningsandignoreothers|0 Healthcare workers need to be tested ASAP besides people with flu symptoms|0 I agree with your overall point but most individuals arent this brave They risk losing their jobs dont want to make waves etc Its a choice everyone has to make for themselves and Im glad youre pointing it out For example the WA clinic that created their own test just DID IT Even when they were told not to But they knew it was the right thing to do|0 Is higher prevalence of infection within certain blood types a thing with viruses I had not heard of this before If not could this be a methodologysampling issue Edit Apparently so How interesting httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4475644|1 Most of those are n25 masks at best|1 Cool story bro|1 Actually this makes me thinkPeople are eating it with their fingers mostly anywaysI hope people are not so stupid to think that licking fingers is dangerous and eating with dirty hands is not|1 I prepped a month ago Take your anxiety out on someone else|0 Nice Walmart|1 I feel like you are just a believer The science didnt not say that Please read the rest of the what I post and stop using fallacy Plz go search what cherry picking is|0 Its because all of their quarantining and isolation to fight the first wave will be for naught if they let infected foreigners back in|0 Youre making shit uphttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics|0 I think the uncertainty is the worst part Needless to say these next few months are going to be utterly horrible|0 Its really smart when you think about it I have a friend whos been ill for over a week with fever and what she describes as burning lungs and was told over the weekend that in order to be tested she had to come into the doctors office first and then be sent to a separate testing center She was also told that only serious enough to be hospitalized cases would be tested which infuriated me to no end Testing would help her know whether to quarantine her whole household and have her case be reported but getting tested also meant 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RemindershttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessagelistReminders21 QuestionshttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectFeedback2120Reminder20from20ChiefLoneWolf|1 So far it seems the major concern with children is less that it poses a threat to them directly The issue with kids is their role as vectors of the disease who would catch it easily at school or at the playground and then bring it home to hurt granny|0 Yes we are|1 For real especially since this is only going out to parentsmeaning they are most likely earning income for the whole family 80day was good when I was a bachelor but I couldnt support myself and a kid on that nevermind multiple kids and a significant other as well|1 That is limited severe cases in one month and it shows a steady seasonal trend As bad as the US no but far from negligible|0 it is now a global pandemic we can now legally stop paying out if you go to the doctor and get diagnosed with the disease great message if you want people even with great insurance to go to the doctor to get treated|1 My wedding party is in July but am def cancelling|0 Oh ok When you look it up it says its a Immunosuppressive drug and antiparasite so I just assumed it was an immunosuppressant haha What is it|1 Happy to help |1 The market should dip tomorrow just to show Trump what a stupid game hes playing Sure they dont mind him lying about inconsequential stuff like politics but lying about this black swan event will cost companies real MONEY way down the road Get this clown out now unless you want your 5 year plans ruined before April|1 Yep we need high speed and were on 4g cellular 90mo but at least its reliable|1 WHO doesnt have any authority to do this|0 Well your reasoning seems sound I can imagine someone says well I dont want to stop my listing so I will increase pricing so people wont buy it and I will change it later Like I can totally see someone do that|1 I already heard of a video from a Stop and Shop in the town I work in where 2 ladies were fighting and pulling each others hair over toilet paper|0 What help would a glove do|1 Thank you|1 So basically anyone that know how to work the system can leave Italy definition of lock down is completely different from what I would consider lock down In essence if you happen to need to work outside of Italy you can Also signed declaration is such a joke I would sign any declaration in a second if I want to leave the country|1 H1N1 was more severe in Han Chinese and Japanese Plenty of diseases are more prevalent and severe in particular in particular ethnicites due to genetic polymorphisms sources available if youd likeNone of what you said precludes 2nd generation spread We dont have any evidence of forth generation infections outside of China|0 Well the morbid truth is that WHO abandoned us when SARS happened Some people said that Taiwan have been preparing for this day for 13 years|1 I wish it was that simple The virus is asymptomatic for up to 14 days And then after you finally get symptoms it can take up to 4 tests before they finally confirm the virus httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3048748notonefourtestslaterchinesemanfinallyconfirmedhttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3048748notonefourtestslaterchinesemanfinallyconfirmed|1 Im sorry to hear that for you Glad they closed gyms but Im sorry that it effects you negatively|1 Maybe one can show them the very disturbing video of that cute twentysomething girl that is suffocating from covid|0 Damn man i need to do this too|0 Nurses are people too and unless they wear protective equipment 247 they can catch it during their non nursing time just like most of the people out there are|1 No its not And dont try to do math again|0 Its project blue The super flu Captain Trips I fucking knew it|1 How has our species stayed alive XDAlso happy cake day|1 Putting drawings on helps children cope|1 The company isnt deciding the sick leave They are merely compensating those who are forced into quarantine by doctors|0 Ive been talking to a lot of students in my city None of them seem overly worried and are still planning on going on their summer trips Im a little disappointed in how little my friends and roommates seem to care about this but I guess they figure theyre young and healthy|1 Its not your job to inform random people on the internet Spreading fear could actually lead to additional spread of the disease For example I am in Chengdu where there are currently more than 100 cases I could flee to another country or return to the UK before the airlines all close down operation to the city In the process I could possibly infect everyone on my flight and then extra people once I landSo fear mongering leads to panicking which can spread the disease rather than contain it Im sure your intentions are noble but they are flawed|0 All of society is now like this I call them the suck up classpeople who continously agree to do bad deeds on behalf of a wealthy entity for money regardless of the lack of morals or consequences to society Everyone now just assumes oh he has money hes morally right and knows what hes doing Dah fuck|0 We were seeing N95 stock issues midJanuary here in Southern Ontario Interestingly the reusable 3M respirators with changeable filters are still in stock I guess ppl havent figured out that they do the same thing|1 It was gunna be my first and ive also funneled a lot of money into it quite upsetting but most likely going to get cancelled|0 Nope but you wish just so your biased argument could have a chance of being correct|0 Sad as it is history has many examples of societies coming through pandemics stronger and more just Gandhis first political platform was helping Indian cotton workers negotiate better working conditions when a Plague outbreak led to labour shortages Europes medieval system of serfdom was broken by worker shortages during the Black Death meaning that workers could demand to work on their terms There will be 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Good to see the numbers continuing to go down|1 This is outstanding news|1 11m i thunk 35m people fled the city but still impressive|1 A few weeks ago a large portion of my office in Washington state got the flu Everyone who got it besides myself the youngest in the group ended up with pneumonia Probably about 6 people in total in my small working group This was before they were testing people with no travel history for the virus so I have no proof of anything beyond a nasty flu season|0 And I love representative democracy despite all the flaws that politicians can have but having a bunch of people go out and vote tomorrow is probably a terrible idea|0 Dont take a chance Coronavirus Outbreak is a harsh reality See how barber is doing his workhttpsyoutubeHuAabcQPrYhttpsyoutubeHuAabcQPrY|0 Thank you for posting this After weeks of going through these stages i think i finally reached stage 5 yesterday Spent the day away from my phone caught up on reading watched happy movies played a boardgame with my husband and took a nice long bath Im less anxious overall|1 It cant be like SK but it can be done similarly As a Korean I have never doubted the ability of the US Somethings interfering|0 In Italy theyre unplugging people from ventilators because they dont have enough The Italian medical system is getting crushedAnd they have more hospital beds than we doOur system is absolutely not designed to handle the numbers that are being seen in Italy Theyre having to choose who gets to live and who gets to die That is likely coming to Canada in about 3 weeks|0 50 years ago no one wore a condom to bang a strangerThis isnt remotely truehttpswwwcollectorsweeklycomarticlesgettingitonthecoverthistoryoftheamericancondomhttpswwwcollectorsweeklycomarticlesgettingitonthecoverthistoryoftheamericancondom|0 Typhoid snowflake What a phrase I am inspired to write a poem now Thank you|1 Hello all I live in central Oklahoma so I feel my voice is of importance in this thread We only have a handful of superstores right now that have health supplies in stock so people in our state are still taking the crisis seriously Although our governor does not portray this The University of Oklahoma has also closed campus and moved classes to online With this precaution in place I feel people will start self quarantining if possible I have even taken the virus serious and changed my hygienic habits and increased social distancing in my day to day life Although I have lived here for over 11 years of my life so I know the stubbornness that come from the people of Oklahoma and know people will listen to Stitt and go about their daily lives as normal So its pretty much a waiting game to see who wins now the alarmists or the activists|1 God is dead and a lukewarm Corona killed himNeitzsche or something|0 This is absolutely not true Masks are only effective to stop the spread from those that are already sick and for front line health care workers that are trained Masks are ineffective for uninfected people and can give a false sense of safety x200BThe best and easiest strategy is to stop touching other people and wash hands before touching your face and eating|1 Im in the automotive industry in the UK and I get paid sick Its not uncommon over here either|0 Meanwhile in the rest of the worldhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSickleaveOthercountriesAt least 145 countries provide paid sick days for short or longterm illnesses with 127 providing a week or more annually 98 countries guarantee one month or more of paid sick days60|0 Something like thatThis is what happens when people wear masks and practise social distancing I cant stress that enoughAs soon as everyone started wearing masks the cases started dropping dramatically I see reports from EuropeUSA and life going on as normalNo quarantines here No hoarding and panic buying Just a ban on group events and a plea for everyone to practise hygiene social distancing and wearing a mask This is what happens when you live in a confucionist society were people actually care about one another and adhere to the basic rules of being a decent human being|0 The cowardly corrupt disgusting politicians are all afraid to take any responsibility and to accept any risk of being too conservative They know what has to be done but none want to be the one to actually be responsible for the decisionSame for all of the countries of W Europe eventually theyll all be in a position where they have no choice and by then it will be too late as Italy is showing us|0 We have government insurance No testing available for my mom|0 Its a simple self diagnostic test that can be used if the medical infrastructure has become overwhelmed or has collapsed as is the case in HubeiIn that scenario could a cheap Oxygen Concentrator producing 90 o2 at 1Lmin actually help|1 90 of all work in tech thats for sure 10 hours RTFM is daunting compared to throwing together a search string and picking through a few links|1 Torontos been sold out for more than a week Had to buy a whole bunch last week for panicked fobs They are back in stock thought because they just bought some themselves yesterdayOhn95s forget it|0 It takes years and thousands of rounds to learn how to shoot well Handguns are particularly difficult to shoot well If I were you Id go out and get a 12 gauge pump shotgun|0 no worries I see the sillyness of my title in hindsight|0 You mean all countries All countries dont have their shit together Italy is fucking up pretty hard Iran is fucking up pretty hard America doesnt seem to give a shit beyond stepping up racism against Asians The country doing best so far is Singapore which is 1 East Asian and 2 has its shit together pretty fucking hard and 3 is tropical so maybd thats helping a lot|1 Honestly would not be surprised if Russians are putting out bogus scientific papers in the hopes of causing confusion and panic|0 This article from the Washington Post is a great visual tool to show how this spreads httpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulator|1 I bought a bottle of lysol multisurface disinfectant for that exact reason I used it promptly when I got home Im wearing nitrile gloves in public spaces too Im disinfecting my entryway and other hard surfaces today|0 Theres a lot the school can do about this They may cancel it but also remove the requirement They waive the requirement They may take what you have and the teachers opinion on your work and so on They know people have jobs pending graduation and will aim for solutionsEmployers also understand the situation They know it would still take more effort to find someone else than to keep you onboardCan the school still decide to just say fuck it and delay graduation by a semester Sure Could the job say fuck it and cancel the offer Sure But neither are in the interest of the organization It makes the college look real shitty and the employer is going to have problems getting anyone at this point and since they offered you a job they liked you the mostBest of luck|0 Hes negative now They reported on this too quickly|0 Not after this no way he wins again|1 Hmm supposed to go there next weekwonder if I should postpone this|0 You can use the site below to find ships near China Many are just drifting in circles and have been for several days I have packages which Im trying to get from Korea but the ship its assigned to has been stopped for about a week now The tracking just shows it going in circleshttpswwwmarinetrafficcomhttpswwwmarinetrafficcomx200BClick on the ship and then select Past Track They are all either cargo ships or container ships not fishing vesselshttpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122803centery30291zoom17httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122803centery30291zoom17 httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122822centery30314zoom17httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122822centery30314zoom17 httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122759centery30299zoom18httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomecenterx122759centery30299zoom18 httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomeshipid1868417zoom17httpswwwmarinetrafficcomenaishomeshipid1868417zoom17|0 Sounds good I live in FL|1 He basically ingested his own piss claiming it put back in vital nutrients that we would otherwise wasteSpoiler it does not|0 Theyll be singing a different tune if they ever catch it God forbid People really dont take this shit seriously until it actually affects them on a personal level|0 Fuck I still remember the guy who stopped to take me to the gas station on the freeway when I ran out Didnt want anything was totally cool I need to return that to someone|0 Leave the based water purifier merchant alone|0 Maybe but I am very skeptical of the ability to make a vaccine and putting our hopes in it is folly SARS still is waiting for its vaccine so is HIV|1 Thanks for your rational logical perspective Im currently outsourcing some of my business to china and they just started at the factory again He is not too far form Wuhan and he said everyone in his factory seems to be operating fineThe full incubation period can be at worst 24 days but the average is 5 days so this has been going on for some time now With not much news about things getting worse its quite |0 I would imagine some of these 1st and 4th primarily could be rolled into an app that people would have to voluntarily download Contact data could be anonimized If it was open source and managedpromoted by a major health organizations like the WHO the potential privacy abuses might be averted and concerns surrounding such allayedWould it be feasiblepractical to have a background app that records a contact every time it is within proximity of another device with it running for a minimum time period Then someone with a confirmed case could report it in the app this is a little tricky they might need a valid case number or somesuch from a specific organization and anyone who was within contact of that person in a certain timeframe would get a notification that they might be at increased risk and what measures to take All of these data could be used for better disease tracking by the administering organization as well|1 Well it is up to you of course Id call that a sunk cost and save the remaining 27K as I remind you that Im NOT a financial adviser|1 Thats your fault for choosing either of the same two corrupted parties again and again Be the change you want to see in the world|1 not seeing any type I vs type II information but type I is an overactive immune response attacking the bodies pancreatic islet cells verses type II which is really a metabolic disorder so two different diseases with the same primary symptom not sure if the virus will respond similarly to both|0 Well i pulled my 3 kids out of school today and the ignorant principle tried to talk me out of it He was totally in the dark and i dont think he knew anything about it He told me that my kids were safe because he heard it only hit the elderly they he tried to tell me our numbers are very low I tried to explain that the numbers were only low because we are not testing and I think he felt stupid and just sounded uninterested after that He didnt even know that 200 evacuees landed here in riverside where im located|0 Take a look at the Russian airport That is how a smart government responds and smart leaders respond to a crisishttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvgjdYNO9lMGAhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvgjdYNO9lMGA|1 httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf58qm3theroleofabsolutehumidityontransmissionfhxdfg1 sorry I also suggest reading the other top level replies in this thread which appeared after|1 South Korean government actually uses information that the infected person shares with officials So without consent there would be no information to release to the public That is why theyve had trouble tracing possibly infected people as a couple of the infected people like patient 19 and 3 were reluctant to share their whereabouts and even lied to officials|0 Boy I wish this could even be an option me Have fun everyone else |1 Headline is misleading He said that hes in favour of whatever it takes he did not explicitly call for a national lockdown|1 Im a custodian and I believe the teachers are getting paid in my school district I hope thats the case nationwide|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 January 23rd is way too late when we now know the first reported case was all the way back to November Nearly 2 and a half months before they shut down everythingSo yeah they downplayed the hell out of it and panic shut down everything a month and a half too late After it had already been spread around the worldIf Im wrong and China did a superb job why is Coronavirus in nearly every continent on the planet Why is Italy shut down why is the US restricting travel why does Canadas leader fucking have it Huh|0 Yet you allow all th other off topic political discussion to continue I understand that the rpolitics crowd has infected this sub but come on man|0 projections based off official data stopped working once number of cases became basically the same per day clearly limited by testing|1 Joined the team Ryzen 3900X at your disposal I cant flex a 2080ti like someone else in the comments but i have a pretty capable 1660ti|1 Yes you are correct There are probably more infectedIn todays newspaper they said that the testing capacity was limited Probably that is why they prioritized testing the group which has highest probability of infection|1 If they permit you to wear a mask do so N95FFP2 or better|1 I am Canadian and I like both Canadas isnt worse has better lyrics|1 Not great not terrible|0 It can always be moved to later its the matter of one conference What is important that it is going to shut down and that it is going to shut down now|1 You always have to follow the money The administration always wants to give government contracts to companies that are part of the inner circle This is a HUGE moneymaking opportunity Im sure someone much smarter than me could tell you who those toprunners are for the test kit contracts just based on their relationship with the administration|1 This everyone feels its hopeless cause bills and comforting emails from banks saying we got you customers you can still bank online anywhere and make your minimum payments without visiting a branch|0 WTF They really just left those columns piled up on some loosely stacked rocks So theres like zero building codes in China then|0 We may have only been testing them on people who visited Wuhan during the initial 19 cases under investigation but now were up to 62 concurrent cases now The scope of the investigation has clearly been greatly expanded its very possible that were also testing people whove been in contact with the confirmed cases The Ontario website doesnt seem to detail what sort of people they are investigating anyways|1 Im wondering if the healthcare worker got it at the home or brought it in from somewhere else and gave it to the patients Hopefully they get that care home on lockdown and under control before anymore can be infected|1 Its very easy to make percentages sound bad After all patient zero was responsible for 100 of the worlds infections|1 You literally ignored the point of the post youre responding to They were saying that it could circulate at a low rate without being detectable Your response But its not detectable|0 Hope he has them often and his secret service detail is young|1 I honestly dont know enough about pandemics or economics to further this conversation|1 If these dirty little bastards dont keep going to school there wont be any social security waiting for them when they turn 65|0 I dont understand why youre so defensive Just because I happen to be an American Im not assuming anything about you and I know the US is a shitstain on the world and I know other countries have responded way better and we should be learning from their example The main problem with the US response is our completely inept federal leadership Everyone I know personally neighbors included is working from home and basically going on full lockdown but other communities arent taking it as seriously Ive posted in my social media circles about the importance of taking this seriously and taking precautions I think there are a lot of Americans on this sub and right now we dont need any more of the philosophy that youre espousing of we all die one way or another|0 No our military is the strongest the greatest We are prepared to fight the coronavirus|1 Peaceful disembark|1 So u not aware of PLA hack of Equifax Your social security number and every credit detail about you is now known to Chinese militaryGoogle it|1 Until this wave passes and everyone stops funding it|0 Is there another independent source verifying this news This article was written by CCP state media for consumption by the public of Rwanda It could be true or not true but Id prefer to see verification by other sources|1 A recession is gonna lead to a lot of deaths too|0 That or they blame you for buying up the food You need to stop telling people that you stockpiled ASAP|0 All sounds reasonable We just dont know enough about this virus yet for me personally to make any calls as to how serious this virus will be No one can predict which human will have a cytokine storm and which human will not A cytokine storm doesnt give two cents worth about age or health risk factors Ive been watching videos posted from China since the outbreak many weeks back now and saw the conditions in the home with contaminated family members I took note of advice from those in China who took care of those members without getting the virus themselves It gave me hope maybe I can do some good here for people if and when it hits if I can stay healthy|1 This is a good thing for those who arent aware It shows they are taking this more seriously|1 Pence dodging the would you travel with your grandchildren domestically question really pissed me off His answer There arent any domestic travel restrictions Wash your hands|0 Well if you didnt look at the feed this morning there was a post that the chinese lumped the 80 of cases mild moderate with people that got no symptoms to people that got pneumonia but were not hospitalized Having pneumonia is not good even if you are not hospitalized|0 Vietnam also handled the situation very well dont forgetThey handled it very fast|1 This is totally false Even Seattle University which shut down immediately after the University of Washington started the college shutdown train is still letting people stay in residence halls until April 4th Thats not to deny that in person classes are stopping pretty much everywhere|1 For weeks 6 8 it looks like the number tested during 2017 2018 were consistently higher than this season 2019 2020 That was a pretty bad flu season apparently Its hard to draw conclusions without taking a deeper dive into data over past decade or two|0 What is the optimal humidity for a healthier air quality Pls add a source thx|1 People dont realize that just because kids arent getting seriously sick from the virus that doesnt mean they wont transmit it to the more atrisk population|1 If the US was taking this seriously we would have 0 cases of community spread but we have 4 unconnected ones in 3 states We have done better in the past The federal government is dropping every ball right now and states have to pick up the slack We should have an organized response but every hospital and school is cobbling one together on the fly|1 Have you considered the possibility that it really is just a bad flu From what Ive been reading on here nobody seems to be dying barring the already sick and the elderly which is precisely what happens when a regular old flu comes aroundStop working yourself up into a frenzy over everything This is the real danger of echo chambers like Reddit people turn themselves into extremists|0 This is the dumbest subreddit Full of circle jerking self righteous half wits whinging for action from a keyboard He is 100 right herp derp Please downvote this an cleanse youself of this contradictory view|0 Did you make this account to Spread propaganda Tell me your not new to reddit To answer your statement every country ignored the info from Korea and Italy this also happened so fast its almost like someone just opened the hose and sent a bunch of people out at once Thanks Beijing|1 Stopping flights is useless at this point|0 It is good Im not in charge I would have definitely fucked shit up well and truly by now Too bad that our leaders arent doing any better at not doing that exact thing But dont worry its not like our leaders care about the freedoms of the individuals anyway Luckily for people that feel the rights of the individual outweigh the need for extraordinary response the 10th amendment is a thing So emergency response and PHEs typically fall under states powers and there is no reason this would be handled differently and therefore it will be up to each state to determine which actions are best Hopefully mine decides on full quarantine You can hope for whatever you think is best|1 This Blue Elite guy posts in here constantly and created a profile right when outbreaks started Starting to wonder what his angle is|1 Surgical masks are pretty easy to replicate I mean n95 masks|1 The 1918 flu was still far more deadly for seniors than young people even if it was unusually lethal for people in their 20s|0 Some I assume are good people|1 What are your thoughts on the growth of cases in cities outside Wuhan Do you think containment there is succeeding or are we too late and those cities are just delayed relative to Wuhan by a few weeks|1 Theres enough people with enough money to act selfishly and buy all the masks whether the purpose is to later resell them for more or to just use them themselves|0 Yeah youre right actually Though its likely some young people have it pretty bad they just dont die|1 Doctors send patients into inferno to kill virus|0 That number lags behind which makes sense It will eventually drop as well|0 muh of course stay home but you gonna pay my rent|0 Damn I cant wait for Pokmon Bite the Pillow then|0 Why are so many hospitals forcing staff nurses to use PTO if they need to isolate or get infected I am a new employee and dont have any PTO nor would I qualify for STD since I havent worked long enough|0 Absolutely could have killed chunyun the national migration during the chinese new year period if they acted earlier Buy time for the world yeah definitely|0 Yeah but even thats a hypothetical Were all going to get this|1 Not if your immune system is working right|0 Who are they ordering masks from and giving them a one week deadline if no masks are availableAlso 40000 doesnt seem like a lot of money considering|0 Once again just like in 2008 the US is only looking out for the rich|1 This story has also been at the forefront of this sub in some way shape or fashion for 4 or 5 days now Its suspicious|0 Im not worried honestly itll die down in spring because its seasonal and the media is making a huge fuzz and causing a lot of disruption|0 Its just as bad to continue something as tradition even though its totally unnecessary dangerous and destructive So I assume you are vegetarian since you would never contribute to the system that is responsible for over 51 of greenhouse gasses and the most pressing problem facing humanity right now well over this viral outbreak Or is not eating certain things just something you wish to enforce on others|0 After reading the translation thanks for pointing this out I cant help but wonder if its a misinterpretation of the word Your name suggests that you speak mandarin so can you please verify that the words in question mean body bag and not something like protective body suit Were assuming it means a bag that you use to put a dead body in|0 Why are you OK with the manufacturer making profit but not the reseller|1 I also randomly quit smoking after 7 years of fluctuant addiction last month Just kind of happened over night I guess its really good timing|1 Thank you|1 I live in the US and can tell you 100 that the healthcare system is completely broken After this if Americans dont get 100 free healthcarewell then its over for the US|0 This is true but it is the federal governmentCDC that is bottlenecking the amount of tests right now They keep telling state governors that more tests will be available and also available at private testing facilities Quest LabCorp in a few days|1 YupIts like trying to sweep your porch during a tornado You can try real hard but it isnt going to be enough to keep it clean In the end you might as well just accept everything is going to be a mess wait for the storm to pass and try to move on|1 No its not only their problem but everyone elses If you get sick and the health staff are all sick you bet youre not getting any help|0 when he finally diesSeriously Its not like I actively want him to die but cant help but feel that fixing all this shit is going to be a lot easier once he does Youre 89 years old Rupert Youve had your turn get out of the fucking way mate|0 About time I suspect that the lack of available testing kits and just general medical facilities in Africa contribute to the lack of reports from the continent|0 Im down Recipe please D|1 Dont be a racist|1 Yeah Very disappointing Of course they care more about stonks than people|1 You can always call your local hospitals nurse helpline This will be free Please also visit httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutstepswhensickhtml|1 You must agree with me then that our government is not taking this seriously at all if they are going to allow our entire supply chains to be disrupted by illegal protests I feel like allowing people to get supplies is the very least our government could do right now given the potential for a pandemic Am I the only person in the country right now that can see this|0 I dont yet I am waiting for the Us to have at least 1 case in 25 states then Ill feel that way|0 Fuck Jeff bezos|0 It is the acute respiratory distress syndrome that is the killer it is no joke|0 Churches are huge issue Think of all the kids that may not even have harsh symptoms etc that could bring this into contact with a ton of older folks So many parents also insist on forcing sick kids go to church They should be communicating to people that as soon as cases show up in a community that they need to start canceling church meetings|1 Truth|1 This I started coughing yesterday I vape and smoke weed which occasionally make me cough totally a normal occurrence started having a bit of a panic attack and created a shortnessofbreath situation for about an hour until I relaxed and realized it was anxiety and not corona 24 hours later and Ive never been less infected|0 Maybe for student loans but Ive never seen that for healthcare bills Its like credit cards they just keep calling you|1 I am an 8th a day smoker Got super sick last month and had to find an alternative Found a tincture 600mg bottle that worked really well and lasted about a week per bottle Far better than regular edibles I have had|1 that was my inclination however fecal mater from those who are infected contains a virus load This places sanitary workers at risk If they get too sick whose going to run the water treatment plants|0 The perspective Im taking is that most hospitals are already at capacity due to the common flu TB common flu etc are pretty well understood and so we can do capacity planning around them a virus that comes out of nowhere has zero capacity planning around it Even if it only puts up half the numbers of the common flu it going to cause major issues in the healthcare industry that will ripple out|0 They deserve way better than this|1 It might be true is a long long way from it is true|1 Accuracy is not a good measure What is the false negative rate|0 Can you come up with some games she can play from a distance or even through the glass I would just tell her that if she catches a cold right now it could be really dangerous for her grandmother and its her job to help protect her right now even if its not fun|1 His title wasnt misleading at all in my mind I hadnt seen some of the older footage I also vote that you are a troll|1 Post truth society Its fucking cancer and I hate it|0 This was the claimChinas flu data is notoriously bad If this is based off their own flu data these numbers are uselessYou have provided no evidence this is the case|0 The Fed is already preparing to reset yearly growth expectations and interest rates Not because of the virus in the US but because of its effect on China|1 I REALLY hope so Victoria Will NOT be able to handle an outbreak Too many oldat risk people too few hospitals|1 yes anything is possible COVID19 might turn me into a big blue gay rat after a few weeks well just keep that up in the air as a possibility to worry about since its not unproven yet theres a difference between questioning whatever random shit youre suspicious about fromyour own biases vs fact based questioning most of all lets leave the questioning to the scientists and people in he medical professions as weve proven here on reddit we dont know shit about anything to even make educated guesses about things we dont know about|0 It is airborne Novel coronavirus can transmit via aerosol health authoritieshttpwwwxinhuanetcomenglish20200219c138798935htmhttpwwwxinhuanetcomenglish20200219c138798935htmThe aerosol transmission refers to the mixing of the virus with droplets in the air to form aerosols which can float for long distances and cause infection after inhalation|1 This one is fascinating especially the additional link provided|1 Its unlikely an event like this would cause a power outage unless it caused apocalyptic levels of death which it does not seem to be doing A hot plate is going to use wayyyy too much juice to effectively use a battery Fuel is much better than electricity for something like this Think propane isobutane or butane stove|1 It might just be that hes an unqualified idiot appointed by Trump last yearMeet Trumps New Homophobic Public Health Quack The Centers for Disease Control will soon be run by a military doctor with a long history of pushing discriminatory AIDS policieshttpsforeignpolicycom20180323meettrumpsnewhomophobicpublichealthquack|0 Why not If Americans arent going to the doctor because it costs so much that will DIRECTLY affect the severity of the coronavirus If people have to pay money to be tested which they probably have to then thats an even bigger reason why we need it So we have accurate data on whos infected and where they are|0 Agreed politics arent relevant on this subject but Im just describing 90 of Redditors|1 I am so happy for them but at the same time jealous as an American|0 hong kong and taiwan were both ravaged by SARS They knew how serious this would be and took the proper precautions from the lessons learned|0 Unfortunately it doesnt look like covid19 works that way theres a live science article that came out saying you dont build up immunity to it once you get it You can also shed the virus for weeks after you recover|0 People need to quit parroting those words It is not panicking to take decisive and aggressive action against a pandemic We have watched several countries make the exact same mistakes and pay dearly for them China Japan Italy now Spain Next is the US then Canada will soon follow Every day cases increase exponentially There is cause for alarm and people need to wake the fuck up If they dont want us to panic they should take action now|0 If everyone wears the masks it would both prevent you from getting infected but also prevented people who dont know they are infected from spreading it If you drop the number of people each infected person infects to below one the pandemic gets halted|0 But asymptotic carriers are hidden from the latest statisticshttpwwwnhcgovcnyjbs7860202002167a0e01b2d24274b03b2ca961107929shtmlOnly confirmed cases no positive cases or asymptotic carriers That means number of confirmed cases go down without notice|1 Its to avoid the travesties that have occurred in the US the past few times the US government bailed out banks and car companies and executives still walked away with hundreds of millions of dollars from companies propped up by taxpayer money|0 He is listening too much to his generals who have some unique theories nobody else on the planet doesTheir theory also involves half a million dying they want 70 to be infected to achieve herd immunityHow about fighting the virus instead then using this vaccine instead of dooming half a million 0010766 people to a nasty deathAsia Middle East and possibly Africa will end up quarantining the entire western world at this rate just like UK has done for years on every pet for rabies|0 Not to sound like a dick but I dont want to listen to my heart Id like some solid advice on if its smarter to quit now or wait Because like I said quitting can make your lungs a bit worse But I dont know if its worse to keep doing it technically I know quitting makes you cough up some phlegm|0 Or you can follow local recommendations and quit inflicting your personal desires on businesses Perhaps even consider people trying to pay for their rent and groceries And by the way if youre such a fucking Saint rather than a virtue signalling ninny youre already not patronizing them because youve self quarantined|1 Tedros should be in prison He has blood on his hands|0 I never said the entirety of China This is a societal issue though that goes far up the social and governmental hierarchy though because this was a luxury plague made by middle class people and the market where we initially thought the bat meat came out of was next to a police station I dont care about your feelings or if you feel saying things that you dont like are racist Nor is it a magical cheat code to silence people that you dont likeAny time there is a problem associated with Chinese culture its the mainlanders This has nothing to do with Chinese in all the other surrounding countries either America has an urge and obsessed with guns even though most of us dont own guns Making illegal will not get rid of 300 million guns It would be idiotic of me to pretend I meant 330 million Americans if you made that statement though|0 Honestly I get the feeling they want the curve peaked high as possible|1 Even small amounts of pneumonia are relatively serious although mild cases of pneumonia can be treated without hospitalization in a lot of casesCurious what are the general symptoms I should look out for and how can they be treated|0 Right I was amazed to find that the respective heads of state for Germany and UK were first cousins|1 They also warned there would be Sars 30 if people on the mainland do not stop eating wild animalsGet your shit together China|0 Finally some good news|1 Youre not being rude by asking Fever is a condition diagnosed by reading the body temperature thats a sign Because it is a sign identifiable by someone other than the patient it is not and cannot be just a symptom The symptoms of fever are chills body aches malaise fatigue etc because they can only be subjectively determined by the patient With a lot of low grade fevers people dont even notice Therefore it cant be a symptom because it is not experienced by the patient or subject httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMedicalsignSignsversussymptoms|0 If that guy need to come to China for work then yes he should pay for the quarantineSame things for Singapore now If you travel there for work you need to quarantine yourself for 14 days|1 Dorries not Corries damn auto correct|1 Culture includes things that people do It doesnt have to be unique rare or meaningful Then would you consider not eating broccoli a culture How about I dont have a solid opinion but would not reject the idea of broccoli Is that a cultureIf so then almost everything in life is a culture the word lost its meaning to me Therefore it would be unnecessary to discuss around this anymore After all I said To me didnt IIf not then whats the difference here|1 Well put|1 Thanks didnt know this existed|1 Montreal Its a private college lots of our students travelled as well Ive had a low fever for a week extreme fatigue and Im so out of breath giving lectures are a challenge Maybe its just a cold maybe itll pass on its own But its worrying nonetheless|0 And the alternative for laid off retail restaurant workers is what StarvationI believe we are at the point economically where we have to do whats right TODAY and not worry about tomorrow YMMV|1 Weird why do health care workers wear them when treating patients I dont get it|1 Good bot|1 the sequel is always worse then the original|0 ikr Lets penalise the kid making the school cleaner Real Big Brain Shit right there|0 Shanghai Government recommends Vitamin C against Corona Virus httporthomolecularactivehostedcomindexphpactionsocialchasha8baa56554f96369ab93e4f3bb068c22146s0a0cd61f03eb37f54761dda5337c92bahttporthomolecularactivehostedcomindexphpactionsocialchasha8baa56554f96369ab93e4f3bb068c22146s0a0cd61f03eb37f54761dda5337c92ba|1 Will be interesting to see what happens during Mardi Gras|1 We will never know how many people died in Wuhan from the virus We will be able to do a great job at it once we get almost any kind of data related to deaths For example Zhejiang Province publish their pneumonia cases every month and we saw a clear jump in cases from November to December as well as from December 2018 to December 2019|1 They will just blame it all on one low level guy and execute him before he gets a chance to talk|0 Look into their eyes deep enough and you will see the true evil within|0 ITs NOt aS bAD As tHE FlUI hate this argument so much cause its a developing situation With the flu people die because they neglect the vaccine they dont keep good hygiene or the formula was messed up With this situation we dont have any cure and we dont know exactly how bad it is If you ever looked at the spanish flu in the past it spread really slowly and took over a third of the worlds population and killed millions in the time frame of yearrss If you were around at the time I can be certain youd be one of those dumbasses saying ITs NOt aS bAD As tHE FlU tooThe bottom line is we do not know how everything is unfolding we dont know if its better or worse than the flu yet and as such we must monitor the situation in case it does become deadly than the flu|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I would prefer if everyone just wore masks during a pandemic Stop spreading the contagion|0 You dont wanna work for someone who doesnt care if you die or not Youll find another job Fuck their wallets and their profits You just need food shelter and warmth till this blows over Fuck capitalist greed especially when death is knockingPS no one is going to risk coming over to take your car apartment etc and if they do give them an ass beating what else is left|0 Oh Wow I have allergic asthma |1 Also the increased sun means fewer people have a vitamin D deficiency which makes people more susceptible to respiratory infections httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvgmqgGwT6bw0|1 Dr Hongwen Zhang the leader of Shanghai medical team for the coronavirus unveiled their internal estimation during a recent interview At that time we knew the number of people who came from Hubei to Shanghai The worst was that if we didnt take any measures at that time 800000 people would be infected in Shanghai If Shanghai was able to control it well nearly 80000 people would also be infected When talking about the strategy of isolation at home for 2 months Dr Hongwen Zhang emphasizes You are not in isolation at home you are fightingAs of today March 5th Shanghai has 342 cases of infection 306 cases 90 have been cured and discharged The virus will disappear one day like a miracle only with all the doctors nurses and citizens tremendous effort and scarification|0 A sneeze from the backseat can definitely reach the driver so Im not to surprised|1 But that would be a ridiculous strategy Everyone catching it within a smaller window means not nearly enough ICU beds whether youre a poor country or a rich one|0 didnt notice Now its kinda racist|0 So why you say nonsense like that China is between risking much more cases of infected and deaths and stopping the production with serious consequences for themselves and the rest of the world Restarting working and monitoring carefully the situation is the only rational thing to do|0 Ill speculate WHO Pandemic classification imminent Crematorium carbon emissions by satellite crematorium fuel consumption stats versus CCP official stats Backdoor information on what China was doing about the virus as they secretly freaked out in December patient zero was likely October Maybe hacked data of zoonotic surveillance information which would indicate if China knew about the lineage of virus before officially reporting it to the WHO in December Maybe preliminary information about defensive measures and opening of the purse to release more emergency funding gotta built that wall Probably morbid information about Chinas single most imminent issue hospital overcrowding large portion of the population with viral pneumonia Preliminary measures for prophylaxis for first responders and politicians|0 These people have never read The Black Swan When there is so much novel and unknown theres a high risk that surprises will be asymmetrically negativeSure there are constraints no one is talking about culling people but travel bans may be totally reasonable as the unknowns get cleared up by timehttpswwwacademiaedu41743064SystemicRiskofPandemicviaNovelPathogensCoronavirusANote|1 Why are people not tagging shit like this with Good News Come on This is great and we could all use some good news and a few laughs|1 As a business owner with customer histories of 30 years Im not worried about myself My wife is a social worker and Id feel terrible if reddit affected her career|0 Soup to nuts|0 Yeah its funny how anecdotal experience can shape our vision Anyway it always makes me smile when people talk about their wives like that wish you both the best during this crisis|1 This sub just cant help itself attacking WHO over this According to their definition its not a pandemicIts literally that simple for fucks sake in a week WHO may well have identified enough sustained community transmission to class it as a pandemic at which point they will make the announcement But until that point its not|0 We did it too We video called all our friends and everyone was playing something with open windows|1 Oh see thats not the vision I had in my head at all|0 I hate how China is getting credit for how they arehandling the situation or their charity Its like the US dropping a few nukes in Japan and then trying to brag about the great first aid they are giving the survivors Guess what you started this whole mess now you get to sit in the corner like the bad little boy you are and take all the hate you got coming to you|1 Wtf|0 Anyone else almost feel bad to warn people how bad it is Im trying to warn family and they still dont think it will become widespread I still feel bad telling them the death and hospitalization rate Cant bring myself to do it|0 You may have problem comprehending what Ive said then|0 At this point Id share it anyways ANYTHING that gets people thinking about this message is better than the denial and lalaing Whats more shocking in the end The word FUCK or killing your immunesuppressed mom because you just didnt fucking get it|0 T Hanks for the good news|1 Same the first week of January was a borderline death experience for me Headache and coughing as hell but imok now bad flu Im from Quebec Canada thou we have 3 cases so far|0 Its virtually impossible to job hunt without either internet or a smartphone in this day and age Even low level retail jobs require online applications online background checks esigning new hire paperwork etc And often on short notice My employer requires all of this stuff done electronically and usually within a 24 hour window You can say just use the library but thats impractical if not impossible when working within an employers deadlines|0 Life expectancy is very short for people who develop lung fibrosiscontinuos ling fibriosis yes If the cause of the fibriosis is removed the COVID is no more then you will have reduced lung function that may or may not heal some research suggests 12 years for recovery|1 See there is actually a big difference between stockpiling and panic buying thoughStockpiling is me and most people here who have added a little extra of everything to shopping trips over recent weeks When Ive been getting say 4 bags of pasta each time instead of 2 8 tins of beans when Id usually get 4 2 extra soaps each week on top of what I would get slowly filling the freezer with meal options when we usually and will continue as long as possible eat predominantly fresh etc etc Adding a few cartons UHT milk to the pantry for hot drinks when reliably we have fresh milk and so onThe panic buying that people deplore is like when I see someone with a trolley loaded with JUST toilet roll getting 12 9 packs etc People whore adding ALL the soap they now find to their trolley etc etc People now going and pulling 20 bags of pasta off the shelf etcPeople who didnt stock pile then have no actual need to buy every pack of toilet roll they now see or every pack of soap etc They have no need to now be buying ALL the available pasta at once Totally understand everyone buying a little extra now and how that could impact supply but its not a little extra of everything that has seen shelves stripped of the few specific items places have run out of|0 or refuse to take the blame either when you refuse to act|0 Nice|1 For all the flak both deserved and not that theyve gotten thus far the CDC has indicated that anyone hospitalized with an otherwise undiagnosable severe pneumonia should be tested for COVID19 for more than a week at this point and almost every state is set up to test for that on their own Thats partially how the community transmission cluster in Seattle was found and another apparently smaller cluster in California I would expect to unwind clusters of any real size from testing the mysteriously ill in hospitals before ILI stats would show an overall increase in disease burden|0 Yall people are still going about their day here in Seattle its alarming how were not taking this situation serious|0 They mocked Noah when he was building the ark I believe|0 China might be lying about death numbers but I doubt South Korea is And the difference is insane I know age is a factor but it also seems to prove the flattening of epidemic curve in real life Korea did it hospitals did not get overwhelmed Italy did nit do it And let hospitals get overwhelmed|0 Bit more like a vigorous tongueblasting than a kiss coming out the spout like that |1 Yes better they spread toxicity online|1 This was very informative Thank you for this|1 thanks for doing the math a billion blows my mind but this gives it perspective|1 My stepdad is a lung cancer survivor Im 100 with you This really highlights how selfish people are Just because youll be fine doesnt mean your parentsgrandparentsimmunocompromised neighbor will be|0 So what happens if they test positive Does the entire flight get quarantined Everyone in the airport|1 Their number 80 is a lot lower than the 148 reported on the Johns Hopkins CSSE tracker httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|0 It already has man The past two days at work have made me want to rip my hair out Im not even a doctor I just work with a building full of elderly people Essentially another breeding ground People arent taking this seriously enough Instead of being proactive theyre trying to read between the lines of what the govt is telling them to figure out what they can play dumb on and what to actually followTheyre willing to put people at risk for money thats about all there is to sayWelcome to Hell|0 Yes agreed thinking of flattening the curve as a way to buy us time is probably the best bet Buy us time for what Well not vaccines as the time horizon on that is too long But for other approaches ie increasing ventilator capacity as well as possibly other medical approachesYour bananas idea is not really that bananas Theres probably a segment of the population where the probability of dying from this disease is statistically insignificant and so giving them the disease would be similar to giving them the vaccine from the perspective of giving them future immunity and adding to the herd immunity of our population But A how can we effectively quarantine these people during their bake time so they dont spread it further to the atrisk population and B of course this experiment would be pretty ethically questionable I hope youre right that were moving to a wartimelike production of necessary equipment In the most extreme case this might actually require the government to basically conscript the people and facilities needed to produce this equipment|1 Reminder that current confirmed cases are a TINY FRACTION of infections because they are only testing people who get sick and show up in hospitalsHeres some educated guesswork for the US Based on the level of testing NOT being done Canada likely isnt far off these sorts of figures proportional to populationThe Infected are 1020x Higher than the Confirmed CasesBest estimates are that 1020 of cases need hospitalization So in places without universal testing most western nations only 1020 of infected get sick enough to go to the hospital where they might be tested That 1020 translates to 510x the number of tested cases that are walking around not seeking medical careBut in the US especially a lot of folks who are showing up in hospitals are NOT BEING TESTED How much does that increase the 510x Who knowsIf we assume only half the people that should be tested actually ARE being tested that might be significantly overestimating the testing in the US then that means that for every confirmed case there are 1020 more that are walking around feeling okay but spreading itThe Number of Confirmed Cases Indicates Infection Numbers from Weeks AgoWith the incubation period and the length of time before people get sick enough to go to the hospital we know most who test positive in the nations without universal testing actually caught the virus 23 weeks beforeThey get infected theres a week incubation maybe they start to feel a scratchy nose like theyre coming down with a cold they get a fever they dont get better they go to the hospital they get tested then two days later the results show 1 additional confirmed case But they were infected 23 weeks agoItaly has implemented massive lockdowns of affected region two weeks ago and they are still not seeing a slowing of infection rates Because they got infected before the lockdownExponential Growth is Unfathomable for Most HumansThe US has about 1750 confirmed cases as of March 12If you make a conservative estimate and assume there are only 10 infections for every confirmed case that means the infected rate would be 17500 infected at the same time as the 1750 confirmed casesNow if you assume 17500 were infected only two weeks ago and you assume 20 growth PER DAY which is about what weve seen in western nations and below the 2440 growth weve seen in the US then you would expect to have about 225000 infected Americans right nowThats a low estimate 225000 infected with 1750 confirmed casesAnd on March 13 with that fairly low 20 day over day growth wed expect that to be 270000 March 14 325000 March 15 390000 March 16 465000 March 17 560000You can see how nuts exponential 20 growth per day isIf you take even just 25 per day growth which weve seen just about everywhere but still figure only a fairly fast 2week delay between infection and confirmation that 225000 number balloons to 400000 infected with 1750 casesIf you figure a 3week delay 19 million infected for 1750 confirmed casesRewind a bit and lets assume there werent just 10 infections per confirmed case but 20 due to lack of testing in the US That means that all those estimated infections would be double 550000 low estimate 800000 medium estimate and a high but not unreasonable estimate of 38 million infected for 1750 confirmed casesTLDR This is real folks We need to implement lockdown measures and universal testing to FlattenTheCurve And we need to do it yesterdayBe well out there These Figures are SpeculativeBut based on some real figures a couple guesstimates and some very simple mathBased on the data inputs of 1750 confirmed cases on March 12httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryus 2440 US day over day growth for the past week and rarely dipping below 20 for most western countrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryusSpeculation 1020 of cases seeking hospital care Most US testing being done on people seeking hospital care Only half the folks wanting testing being tested in the US 23 week delay between infection and confirmation of test result in hospital|0 Will get stolen for scrap by gypsies in no time|0 I mean unless congress wants to abuse the commerce clause and elastic clause even more does the federal government even have the actual power to enact a law like that|0 You know this virus doesnt actually kill many people right So most of those extroverts will be just fine|1 His decisions led to an out break of hiv It wasnt the people having unprotected sex Or the drug users sharing needles|1 Exactly Watching the Chinese police manhandle citizens for not wearing a mask in public looks atrocious but when you take a moment to realize the scope of this that indeed it is going to sweep through large populations across the globe and that just breathing in the vicinity of someone infected causes spread the time is now for governments to be transparent companies to call meetings with their staff vast preparations be made including militaryFEMA involvement and for the public to become very aware of the magnitude of the situation Authorities donnot want to invoke panic or fear which is understandable but a population aware and prepared for potential disaster is absolutely necessary We are only 2 months in and if you look at the number of recovered cases as opposed to confirmed cases and when compared to other coronaviruss like MERS or SARS the average time to actual death is 20 or so days and considering that actual numbers of deaths or infections is not excatly factual at this time it is impossible to know the fatality rate Better to be overly prepared than under prepared because this could eaisly turn into mass chaos in the wake of limited resources I remember a warning from a city officials secretary circulating on FB before Harvey that everyone shrugged off as bogus hype and everyone was mostly underprepared and shocked by the level of devastation afterward My community was basically the only area hit in town and during Imelda we were quickly shut in with resources at the ready to evacuate We didnt flood that time and the feeling of being trapped in was unnerving at first until you realize how effective controlled choas is as opposed to being completely bewildered and helpless The time is nowinform the public initiate plans of preparedness and set into motion phases that the public is knowledgeable of and compliant with far ahead of time because is isnt going to be our homes and cars that are lost to the stormthis time it will be our lives if this pans out at pandemic proportions|0 Good for you Have a family full of teachers they are staying home Make the decisions that you need to make protect yourself and your students|1 And it wont be a problem until mom and dad and grandpa and grandma get sick and die|0 But whos gonna buy your products when no one is receiving wagesIf you have an automated factory that can produce anything you want why would you waste your time making stuff for other people|0 Look on the bright side Your landlord will get it too So hes going to be busy for 28 days|1 My guess is Iran isnt even counting that they are so stressed economically and geopolitically this is the last bloody thing they need And god forbid it spreads into Syria All this time I thought it would take an alien invasion to bring the world together as one now it looks like its fuckin PANGOLIN FEVER|0 This would be bad even if coronavirus wasnt a thing|0 Do you honestly feel your comment added anything You need to work on your EI|1 Thats going by official reported numbers The actual rate is so much higher with China us Vietnam Thailand and Iran all heavily under reporting The us has only tested like 450 people The testing criteria here is so fucked up Youll only be tested if youve been to China in the past 2 weeks or had direct contact with someone who was confirmed tested That is totally ridiculous and incompetent The truth is we have no idea how many are already infected in the us because testing isnt being done on the community level|0 Not well|0 Hes just completely drunk|0 I am well aware I worked in the service industry most of my adult life It all starts with the boss being an asshole as far as employees go either forcing sick employees to work or not paying them enough to take a day off But people going shopping when theyre coughing up a storm and sneezing on passersby are also assholes Lots of assholes to go around|0 There are no currently FDA in America approved treatments that are considered best practice and recommended to medical providersA breathing machine in a hospital can keep people alive for extra days so that their internal immune system has extra time to catch up This increases survival less death numbers|1 Just like the simulations|1 Brave words He may not be knowledgeable in some area but whats your evidence that he is uneducated|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im assuming most SARS fatalities were old people Old people by definition tend to not be smokers the ones who do smoke are already dead from lung cancer so it makes sense that there would not be many smokers in that data set|0 Thats not true there are cases in Japan that tested positive but were asymptomatic|1 False negatives Ill see if I can find the article|0 you as well thank you|1 this novel virus has another way to enter cells unlike SARSprobably kids just have it less bad as it doesnt enter through one of the mechanisms|0 It only takes one callout for my boss to fire even our best employees Then she wonders why her turnover rate is so high|1 Yeah this thread is full of conspiracy nuts and anxious freaksThe flu is much scarier than this virus|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Im pretty sure thats an unjustified firing in the USA|1 My step brother thinks cigarettes and whiskey will be currency I just bought food for my family I am more worried about a run on toilet paper and granola bars|0 His safety word is Gesundheit|1 Even if they do get bailed out the industry is so tainted now Who the hell is gonna go on cruises now Nobody unless you make process crazy cheap at which point youre losing money on every passenger you take in Cruises are going to be much less common in 5 years thankfully|0 I mean all that aside its still pretty unlucky for someone to be infected after spending 2 hours in Wuhan Jan 15 when supposedly most of the people infected still had some link to the seafood market only a couple weeks priorThe fact that not all the earliest patients identified had links to the market and the fact that someone who was in the city for all of 2 hours got infected suggests the epidemic was both older and larger than reported whether the report be on the middle of December or the middle of January|0 Well maybe just maybe we shouldnt have outsourced all our manufacturing to a single country|1 Wow Its almost like one side likes listening to scientists and another side doesnt|1 Mostly what I want from testing is to have it being done in areas where its not endemic That lets people know that the spread is getting closer and take appropriate action if at all possible|1 Well she looks happy enough|1 Mulan 2020 is going to Bomb hard|0 Avoid political discussions applies to political comments that are not on the topic of 2019nCoV It does not apply to criticism of governments or anything that is not political in nature|1 Post removed OP did you do it yourself or was it mods And hi mods if you guys removed it could you please freaking point us to a sub that allows these types of submissions Cause Ive also had my post removed before and all I got was a please use the discussion thread instead of creating new posts I thought the rules were clear rcoronavirus for serious discussions and rchinaflu for everything casualNot to mention local reports from Italy that sympathize with China got to stay on the front pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfhvv39imitaliantoallthechineseigetitnow why cant different options coexist|1 Some boomers are blue and think we are in big trouble with this virus|0 How the hell didnt this article mention Trump calling it a democratic hoax Seems pertinent and provides a lot of context|0 Trump is very shortsighted and is trying to limit political damage now at the expense of actual harm to Americans later on|0 Yep same|1 This is different though Latest government advice has been for vulnerable people to not even go outside for the next 12 weeks and to self isolate for 14 days if you have symptoms This guys college has just gone Lmao wouldnt it be an epic gamer moment if we infect the whole school with coronavirus everyone who has family with the illness should come in anyway itd be a right laugh|1 At that point we would have to put a dome over brazil It would be no choice for humanity|0 Dude youre a selfish jackass|0 Im lucky that Im able to stay home I work retail but while our company hasnt put out a statement on COVID19 our managers have told us to not come in if we feel sick I have enough money in savings to stay home for a few months if needed and have enough food to stay in quarantine for a few weeks University has also been put online for the rest of the semester so I dont have to step outside at all|0 Wish we could say the same for the rest of rconspiracy|1 If your in NYC theres like a million dealers lol My guy told me he picked up extra because he knew people were going to be stuck inside|1 Also let people telework if possible There is already no reason office workers need to come into an office to work on a computer all day but many places still require it because the boss cant stand to not look over your shoulder while you work|0 from an epidemiological view it would be useful to knowNational authorities dont want to know because tracing many infected reflects negatively on a country|0 Can you explain how there is a correlation Maybe they ran out of testsMaybe theyre not testing much because of having the first death in the countyconcerns about the numbersIm not totally convinced that anything is getting better|0 see youre probably right because this happened before people it was scared of this and that eventually it didnt turn into anything but a man could dream|1 How can I apply If I get 3500 Ill win If I die by corona Ill win Just winwin situation right there|0 Please dont make it look like the end of the world and feed into peoples fearsEncourage people to avoid you and others like yourself by staying at home with symptoms Raging at the government wont change a thing The virus is here and always was going to be after China refused to admit it for 3 weeks|1 A lot of CEOs retired in the oil and gas industry when oil crashed some years ago If you know bad quarter reports are coming and dont want to be held responsiblethen retire before times get tough|0 Good to know I am still not certain which it was but I did have my Flu vaccine this year|0 Just a minor omitted detail lol|1 Dr Richard Hatchett This is the most frightening disease Ive ever encountered in my career and that includes Ebola Its frightening because of the combination of infectiousness a lethality that appears to be manyfold higher than fluhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsff3b0adrrichardhatchettthisisthemostfrighteninghttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsff3b0adrrichardhatchettthisisthemostfrighteningx200BIt will be tough British doctor admits after Italian experts warn one in 10of those infected need intensive carehttpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusitalydoctorsintensivecaredeathsa9384356htmlhttpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusitalydoctorsintensivecaredeathsa9384356htmlutmsourceredditcomx200BHarvard scientist coronavirus pandemic likely will infect 4070 of world this yearhttpsthehillcomchangingamericawellbeingpreventioncures482794officialssaythecdcispreparingforhttpsthehillcomchangingamericawellbeingpreventioncures482794officialssaythecdcispreparingforx200BBill Gates says the coronavirus is a pandemic and a onceinacentury pathogen Here are the solutions hes proposing to fight ithttpswwwbusinessinsidercombillgatescoronaviruspandemicsolutions20202utmsourceredditcomhttpswwwbusinessinsidercombillgatescoronaviruspandemicsolutions20202utmsourceredditcomx200BWe have to understand we are in the midst of a global epidemic Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said during a press conference the most dangerous of these epidemics in the last 100 yearshttpswwwjpostcomBreakingNewsThreenewcasesofcoronavirusannouncedinIsrael619680httpswwwjpostcomBreakingNewsThreenewcasesofcoronavirusannouncedinIsrael619680|0 How do we as the public ensure that our governments are prepared for the next pandemic The world was obviously not ready|1 They were increasing the price over time as demand grew higher and got up to 89 right before amazon closed their shop Also we may be able to assume they didnt sell all their stuff since they got shut down|1 Why the fuck do we have to pay for a minimal amount of water Why isnt there a perperson allotment thats free|0 Maybe for their employees apparently they got them during the last avian flu outbreak|0 Just found out that a new case has been discovered in the city where i am studying in fact right now im in class XD By the way im from Spain so they better start closing the universities here too|1 Please find the direct link to the rankings herehttpsiimgurcomdpD0LFPpngIn just four days we have gone from 0 to 323 new members performing RosettaHome work I actually just noticed that the leaderboard hasnt updated but by raw score team rcovid19 has the 9th highest daily average Rosetta score in the world You all should be very proud of this achievement and more importantly what youre doing to help fight SARSCoV2 As a reminder RosettaHome has already made important discoveries regarding SARSCoV2httpswwwipduwedu202002rosettasroleinfightingcoronavirus We hope to help contribute to further discoveries One major question people had before was where is a COVID19 task option for Rosetta As of now there is no option A Twitter update from the Pande lab that I now cannot seem to find says they are working on the feature Furthermore I am working on getting in touch with someone from the Pande lab who will hopefully give myself and all of you a little insight into what is going on thereA little update on what I am doing I have a call tomorrow with the president of my alma mater regarding potentially dedicating school public computers and servers to distributed computing tasks I estimate that the school has a total of 300 public computers mostly quadcore i7 Dells If I can convince my school to go through with this I will use that momentum and contacts to pursue this concept at additional local colleges If I can get a few schools on board I will reach out to businesses that may have a large number of computers that spend a significant time idling My current goal right now is to keep pursuing large institutions until at least one effective approved and widely distributed antiviral hits the market Fingers crossed for Comostat mesylate Remdesivir or Chloroquinehydroxychloroquine Then maybe I will go to Bermuda for a few days I cannot quite express how thankful and appreciative I am for everyone pitching in Most of us dont have a scientific or public health background but that doesnt mean we have to sit by doing nothing We WILL overcome this disease There is no question about it So let us work on a solution and get it over with sooner rather than laterEDIT Our current standings DhttpsiimgurcomdpD0LFPpngEDIT 2 For those who want to joinFoldingHomehttpsfoldingathomeorgstartfolding For RosettaHome first download the BOINC client from the following linkhttpsboincberkeleyedu Once that is downloaded and opened select tools in the menu bar select add task and choose Rosetta from the scrolling menu that pops up If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer themEDIT 3 Ive been talking to a reporter who has been in contact with a professor who works on Rosettathe professor has confirmed that there will be a SARSCoV2only option in short order|1 Table 1 and 2 are excellent Lab review more severe cases have high crp 200 high normal total WBC but very low lymphocyte and zero eos Of a familial group of 6 there were 2 mild 1 moderate 2 severe and 1 totally asymptomatic case Incubation periods was 19 days previously one case reported to be 24 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There are some fantastic remixeshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv3K3MMtoG8rY of it too I think the original video was called Double dream feet or something like that|1 Corporate greed during this crisis will leave down a dangerous path|0 Because if you tell average Joe jackass that there are some people who are exempt from staying the fuck home under some circumstance they will try to somehow fit themselves into that essential group so they can go to the barThe point is that if you are making a choice about whether to go somewhere or not staying home is the only sensible option|0 They are waiting for the system to start getting overwhelmed before the US starts testing people not connected to China They want it to get so bad that no one will question the mass quarantine coming this summer and then no one will fight the cancellation of elections in November since it will be for the greater good Trump jokes about staying in power longer than 2 terms This is how he achieves that goal bc it was never a joke|0 I feel you bro More answers and information would be great and I think would calm a lot of people down you and me included I wish I had them for you and me and everybody else here but I dont All I can say is stay safe my friend|1 Not good for Russia their exports to China had already shrunk substantially|0 Goddamn technology is amazing|1 Report his ass to the policebylaw enforcement He can be fined up to 5000 per day|0 The whole quarantine talk is not gonna sit well unfortunately|0 I also have some independent data that suggests this effect as well ie warm vs cold weather I wrote a blog about it today httpsgreysheepmdcom20200312surveygraphtrackingdailycovid19casesinsouthernandnortherncaliforniahttpsgreysheepmdcom20200312surveygraphtrackingdailycovid19casesinsouthernandnortherncaliforniaIf you are in the science field will you let me know what you think about my thesis Im looking for the good ol reddit teardown before promoting this idea IRL|1 Ill just list a few there are lots I like and some I dontI like that he has addressed NAFTA NAFTA was a GB Senior and Bill Clinton initiative that cost Americans jobs After cancelling that travesty which made the rich richer and allowed companies like Ford and GM to move assembly plants to Mexico instead of America we have seen lots of manufacturing jobs come back Before NAFTA we had CAFTA which is basically what we have now there are just more stringent rules against outsourcing American jobs to cheap Mexican labor Similar with China I know it was painted as a horrible trade war but the sanctions and tarrifs on Chinese trade are something we needed so companies like WalMart wouldnt be able to take advantage of cheap Chinese goods and would be incentivized to move purchases back to America Hell we are seeing now how total reliance on Chinese manufacturing puts us at their mercy x200BI like that he says what he thinks and calls people out directly He does not play politics he just does it At least you know when he screws up and he doeswill say or do some incorrect things it is out there in the open and transparent Take for example Obama claiming the police acted stupidly when they arrested that professor outside his house The guy was irate and looked for a fight but the cop had an impeccable record and a whole slew of people testifying that he is in no way racist or unfair or biased What does Obama do Invites both the professor and the cop to the WH for a beer Better than nothing but Trump doesnt make racially motivated claims like that And yea you can say that saying Mexico sends criminals over is racist but its not Mexico is not a race of people it is a nation and there are a fuckton of criminals coming from Mexico MS13 cartels plenty others come from the border It isnt racist to call it out Anyway I rambled a bit but those are just some off the top of my head Would a racist president brag about the lowest black unemployment of all time He is legit proud of that fact and I believe his economic policies helped to make it happen I am proud of that fact|0 Still probably 2 weeks to a month away unfortunately They are going to be selective on testing until supply of testing is readily availableThey are trying to ramp up test but still are only predicting around 1 million total available by the end of this week as long as there are no set backs which there have been set backs for about a month now Some places are still struggling to get certified certain areas will most certainly be prioritized|0 Yes this is true Weirdos are only weird when theyre wrong Id say right now it was a good educated guess we are going to experience a couple of months with the country in the poo|1 thanks|1 Or how we are trying to help our communities by not getting sick and spreading it and putting a strain on our medical services and resources Its one of the most humane kindest things we can do right now is to help each other in this way If we help slow it down that can save lives|1 Is there an runexpecteditcrowdAlso thats going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the day so thanks I guess|1 Up until 80s healthcare was affordable then they allowed healthcare for profit and here we are|1 Any competent leader would be beyond considering and implemented it already There isnt even a question about it it has to happen or people who cant afford a hospital visit just wont go and the virus will spread more Anyone who takes more than a second to decide this does not have the best interests of the people at heart And to anyone who wants to say its not easy raising funds for that just remember not paying for peoples medical care in a pandemic will cost a hell a lot more|0 If it makes you feel better a lot of Westerners probably still think coronavirus is just a Chinese and cruise ship thing So theyll still think youre a terrorist and not a plague carrier |0 As someone whos lived there for 6 years Id be less worried about the government monitoring me right now In this kind of situation I have no faith in the government to walk and chew gum at the same time|0 Honors being like advanced students or high achievers Core being normal which actually tends to be lower since there often is not a remedial anymore but schools rend to have honors and prehonors instead making core the lowest achieving students|1 God bless|1 The funny part is less people will die from Chinas habit of eating bushmeat than people around the world die from cardiovascular diseaseobesity caused by American style dietsfood|0 134 euros is not a fair or reasonable price for two bottles of hand sanitizer Without the coronavirus then any sane person would say 134 euros for two bottles of hand sanitizer would be unreasonable Youre arguing if applying price gouging in this case is fair or not which is a different argument entirely|0 I am not trying to say that sort of quarantine wouldnt work in America especially I know it wouldnt work in any democratic nation But my original point is that many Americans seem so patriotic but yet there is a sense of ill get whats mine and fuck everyone else which doesnt seem very patriotic|0 Yeah but this number does not represent reality We cant know for sure until earlymid february|0 I guess the poor dont matter amirite|0 Yea I understand that but if he gets fired we lose one of the best qualified individuals in our government for this situation and he looses access to all the materials at his disposal Im not defending this administration I feel they are very incompetent in this situation|0 Please send some to Canada as well|1 NoWe have dozensBroward county alone has 9 confirmed and thats without tests|0 Wondering if youve heard anything more concrete about transmission in Philly Ive heard one rumor but just trying to better understand the situation|1 Its unfortunate that it wasnt spelled out more clearly in the announcement and that the airlines gave you the impression you wouldnt be able to come back I hope you at least didnt lose out on any travel expenses|1 Ignoring the fact about community spread and killing those at risk people Imagine you caught it and life moved on for you and you got better Now your city is in the middle of a large outbreak because you and everyone you know who had it spread it around because why cant I go to do as I please its just the flu Im young and your hospital is completely full Oh well your better right What happens if you get in a car accident Paramedics are on quarantine or laying in the hospital or need some kind of emergency surgery Guess what Sucks to be you because your hospital isnt going to be able to do much for you as staff and resources are already at the break pointThe reason you should be concerned if your young and healthy besides obviously not killing older people but so we can keep the spread to the point hospitals keep up increasing the people who can be saved The other option is we turn into Italy and doctors start chosing who lives and who dies|0 It did not cost the US anywhere near 15 trillion dollars If youre actually interested in understanding what the fed did Heres a neutralpoltics post on ithttpswwwredditcomrNeutralPoliticscommentsfhovv8howcanthefedinject15trillionintotheutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 Not at the moment We are waiting for it and hope for the result over the weekend Ill let you know as soon as I have something Promise We know the reinfection due to a shortterm immunity against other viruses eg Norovirus infectionThe immunity there is 46 max24 months We suspect that there is an increased antigen drift rate in the coronavirus Therefore after recovery one may be susceptible to the virus againBut thats just speculation |1 Time taken to die Unlike the current bug there werent huge numbers of milder cases beyond what was confirmed at hospitals at least not that we now know about today|0 Following seeing as I too am 26 and do not wish to die of rchinaflu|1 And who knows if your insurance will pay for it|0 Thoughts and prayers to the family People please take it seriously so we can get over this quicker and there will be less casualties |1 Its not like the infrastructures and stadium are scrapped after the games either|0 Society deserves to fucking burn and I hope this is a wake up call to all the ignorant fucks|0 Why do you believe China did not slow the spread precisely Claiming they modified numbers is one thing but saying the mass quarantines here did nothing is nonsense|1 So many people I know at work have been sick I had a head cold in February Who knows Maybe were all infected|0 In theory slowing down the panic over the disease allows you to ease the pressure on the medical system from hypochondriacs until you can get quarantine centers up and running In practice its probably just incompetence|0 I also heard this rumor going around we shall seeI kinda hope so to be honest I rather proactive than reactive|1 Flying is very bad for the environment We shouldnt be flying at all|0 Man they suck at plague inc|0 Also those big container ships take about 4 weeks to get from China to the US and its only been about 2 weeks since the ports were closed Consumers and businesses will start feeling that soon|1 yes its mainly asthma i know im not taking it but its broadly prescribed here also for cold and bronchitis and stuff like that And yes I agree with you I dont know why they still prescribe it apart from asthma|1 Thats pretty racist|0 Now we just need to get the media outlets to drop their paywall on coronavirus articles|0 Something seems off about this It just seems super fishy too me|1 Thats too bad|0 Its so he can prop the market The big thing he has to hang his hat on going into the election is the economystock market and this is killing it Hes hoping a payroll tax cut will boost spending and increase the market|1 If you look back there are a number of comments that have been asked to do the same not all by the same moderator I was not singling you out and I am not censoring you just trying to ensure that everything that should be sourced on the sub is Sorry you feel youve been treated differently to others You havent|1 Please tell me the cravings stop Ive stopped for months at a time but they never did|0 You are clearly be talking about Portland The first item that was sold out was Kale weed FTFY|1 Great maybe he should take over the Chinese government|1 Honestly this was a small brain issue they tried using big brain and it dont work when everyone else has smaller big brains|1 Im in a similar boat We have several employees who work remote and few times a week Yesterday everyone was sitting silently at their desks we all work on laptops so everyone could do this at home The office should be closed everyone takes public transit in as well Im not sure why my bosses cant fathom adjusting and closing the office they are needlessly exposing each of us to hundreds of people I work in downtown Seattle as well not like Im in some community that has not been exposed to it yet|0 I am honestly worried that my corpse will be reanimated and I will be forced to work as a slave for eternity There are scientists making breakthroughs even recently|0 Not only that but the few that are left are under lock and key because people started stealing them|0 Except that hes had direct contact with multiple people who have tested positive and refuses to get tested himself|1 Trust me Im a fucking nervous wreck over this Ive barely been able to eat and Im constantly shaking But Im really good at trying to make others feel better and have peace of mind even if my fucked mind wont let me feel any peaceI thought maybe since our state is majority older people theyd work harder to keep everyone safe and keep it from spreading But at this point Im not banking on it to be our saving grace Im also scared about the long term consequences of COVID Ive read it may cause permanent organ damage and gets in your brain stem Of course taking everything with a grain of salt because information is so rapid fire and Im sure less reputable websites are having a field day with fearmongeringits still getting to meI hope you get better soon pal Have you been to the doctor recently I dont wanna seem like a paranoid but we do have the ability to test for it here Of course it could have also just been the smog Ive heard Chicago has pretty gross air|1 The numbers out of China are most likely being underreported by an order of magnitude or more In addition Chinese hospitals tend to be in terrible condition theres a decent chance many patients in Chinese hospitals fare even worse than if theyd stayed at home Therefore Id only trust the international mortality rates for now|0 My husband and I listened on the radio We both felt like he was sick|0 Because your perception of the cost of an education is heavily skewed by how much you paid Older generations payed far less College was almost free for boomers And fairly affordable though 1000 higher for Gen X Later generations paid tuition rates 9000 higher than people did 30 years prior And that is inflation adjusted|1 Yes there are numerous issues with using the Korean data as the worstcase scenario apart from the issue that they didnt account at all for outstanding cases|1 There are cloth masks available on Amazon You just have to be careful when you take them off and thoroughly disinfect them before reusing them Any mask helps though not as much as N95 or surgical masks|1 Thats what Ive been tryna tell all these dead people for weeks|0 Its like writing a novel but needing to burn it to stay warm Its for the best but its hard not to shed a tear|1 Did you look at why they were suing them To make sure the feds dont prematurely release any others under observation before they are 100 sure they dont have the coronavirus|1 Wrong Read the study LCoV spreads more aggressively but there is no evidence it is more seriousIt also isnt known whether LCoV evolved from SCoV in humans or if that evolution happened in an intermediary hosthttpsacademicoupcomnsradvancearticledoi101093nsrnwaa0365775463|0 Probably in like 2 years|1 Less likely to be a risk there than on the cruise ship which is infested but true it could appear anywhere|1 No but if she gets infected and gets into contact with other people that in turn get in contact with elders that may die she indirectly kills through her ego Its not about her it is about the difference if I care enough about other peoples life or not|0 Dont tease me|1 tbf if shes not in the vulnerable group and willing to risk 2 weeks of quarantine afterward|0 As someone who has been on this sub for awhile and enjoyed the less moderation while it lasted rchinaflu is a lot more toxic than this sub ever was This sub had a lot of good discussion even if it would get into conspiracy theories at times Since the switch that sub has had a lot less good discussion and a lot more random shitty American politics I came back here now since Id rather have a decent discussion with heavier moderation than have to deal with people who only know how to complain about American healthcare|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rbestof In which uKicksYouInTheCrack pens an ode to love in the time of CoVid19httpswwwredditcomrbestofcommentsfeww9hinwhichukicksyouinthecrackpensanodetolove rbestofnopolitics In which uKicksYouInTheCrack pens an ode to love in the time of CoVid19 xpost from rCoronavirushttpswwwredditcomrBestOfNoPoliticscommentsfewwg5inwhichukicksyouinthecrackpensanodetolovenbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Or they can go and maybe 6 weeks from now they can tell you a super cool story about how the vacation was a quarantine nightmare and now they have a malfunctioning lung for life|1 Or he didnt shake any hands hes just distracting you Like how he said his hobby is making model buses so people wouldnt be able to google about his fucking 350 million for the NHS bushttpsgizmodocomdidborisjohnsonrambleaboutmodelbusestomanipulat1835903361Someone might soon come out and say I met BoJo in the hospital the other day he didnt shake any hands he had a big scarf covering his face but no one will pay attention them|0 What does normally happen when the new year holidays end Do people storm the markets to stock up on foodRespectively how much food do you have left Are there any shortages in the shops|1 Nowhere in this source does it say this person had no glaringly obvious preexisting health conditions NOWHERE Be careful how you frame specific cases|0 Not a lawyer but most states are at will employment states which I think means they could actually fire you for getting COVID19 and there would be no legal repercussions|0 I dont want to go in to the hospital to give birth but I have a feeling that crossing my legs aint gonna help|0 Can we not post NYT even with ad blocker I cant see ANY of their articals due to demanding a subscription|0 1 million dead in the US certainly could end up there or higher depends on what the actual mortality rate is Martial law dont think modern day America has the guts to go there even if for a short period that would be the optimal response Would be quite something to behold if Im wrong though Hundreds of thousands of bankrupt businesses definitely wont happen even the 2008 recession had just 90k business bankruptcies in the worst year and based on the size of recommended stimulus packages from economists this recession should only be about half the size or less That is still bad though considering the 2008 recession was quite severe|0 Nice|1 I saw that but thats an extremely vague statement Its not explained what the other autopsies had in common or what led to his conclusions what their medical history was what jobs they had whether they smoked etcI am very interested in seeing how other countries autopsies compare regardless Hopefully this will help us learn more about the damage it can cause and urge people including the least likely to die to take more precautions|0 Yeah but funding from the government for the Wall has been a biteh Gone waaayyy TF over budget i heard|1 would take this with a grain of salt nothing is proven and if this were prevalent wed be seeing much more of it in the thousands of recovered cases but if title scary have my upvote this sub|0 I know that symptoms vary from one person to another but the fact that your oxygen levels stayed unaffected gives me so much hope My levels are already low due to other health issues so Ive been deathly afraid of Coronavirus thinking of it as a death threat But I guess I have a chance depends on my luck Im trying to not get it but it will be very hard not to on the long run Im glad youre good now and thanks so much for posting your experience|1 Stock market was up 1300 today Im thinking wtf|0 Useless post|0 This is criminally stupid to distribute from a position of authority|0 Thanks for the reply I just saw thishttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0924857920300820 posted elsewhere seems they are studying both Having a stash of these meds at home might offer the only reason to celebrate Lupus |1 Are you on any hiv meds I read that hiv arent getting Coronavirus due to one of the meds they take and it was being used to treat covid19 patients Try to relax stress can make the breathlessness worse and make you need the inhaler more Did you have a high temperature that came on suddenly Most people with this doParamedics once told me you can have up to 10 squirts of ventolin as thats equivalent to a nebuliser If you still have difficulty then thats the time to call 999 Have you upped your preventative inhalor|0 Not that I know of Rosetta works on other medical projects as well though Also check out World Community Grid They do a lot of medical work They just finished a ZikaDengue project and are currently working on an AIDSHIV projects several cancer projects a TB project and a microbiome foundational science project httpswwwworldcommunitygridorgresearchviewAllProjectsdohttpswwwworldcommunitygridorgresearchviewAllProjectsdo|0 So his wife tested positive but he didnt Did they specifically say he tested negativeSome people touch their wives occasionally Just sayin|1 There are different types of tests that have been developedapprovedused This is another tool in the toolbox that hopefully will speed up testing and may reduce uncertainty thereby requiring fewer sequential tests to obtain a firm result For as much as science is held in highesteem around here so few realize the time and energy it takes to make it work its not magic|1 Antibodydependent enhancementAntibodydependent enhancement ADE occurs when nonneutralizing antiviral proteins facilitate virus entry into host cells leading to increased infectivity in the cells Some cells do not have the usual receptors on their surfaces that viruses use to gain entry The antiviral proteins ie the antibodies bind to antibody Fc receptors that some of these cells have in the plasma membrane The viruses bind to the antigen binding site at the other end of the antibody PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Its just that dust masks are not that good after hours if use there is bound to slip some air in its better to have a full face gas mask|1 yep thats the opposite at what they should be doingLike South Korea they are very open with the data and even send an a alarm to your cellphone when you are near a place where a patientcluster was|0 The problem with that comparison is that the economy doing better is a bad thing eventually because it becomes so successful that is no longer sustainable and it is forced to collapse|0 And uh who the hell actually wants viral pneumonia even if it wont kill|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Also there may have been death due to covid 19 but undetected due to low suspicion or lack of test kits|0 However that logic doesnt hold up in this case The virus isnt very lethal to young people who tend to quickly spread it Its very lethal to older peoplex200BSo you could just end up in a situation where this becomes freeroaming forever human life expectancy would drop dramatically Most people would no longer die of heart attack or agerelated illness they would die from Corvid19|0 Time to get your tourism pictures in Send out your healthiest photogs with a mask and get ready for the return|1 Yes but SARS turned out to have a 17 kill rate i doubt this virus will go as high|0 If so Might help the rest if the world if they are not flying|1 These are the stories were going to hear about in the MSM 5 months after the fact Im so sorry thats happening to you|0 And gutsy as hell|0 So whats even the point of self isolations|0 It would greatly reduce our risk if the people around us were informed and taking the right precautions This needs to be a group effort|0 The Chinese have found that using CT scan can correctly help identify the lower lung issue Now Chinese hospitals have fewer resources compare to the US hospitals and Chinese people in general are poorer than their American counterparts yet in America CT is expensive as shit and you have to wait for like a week for urgent stuff So there are other ways to clinically diagnose this just whether or not the state would be willing to pay for it China is|0 Perhaps try to tell her how much you love her and affirm her and then try to reach out to her and tell her how serious this is and that people without symptoms can infect othersPerhaps if she can take it more seriously and isolate herself for a while she may come for a visit but she needs to show that she is protected first People are in denial because they cant handle the anxiety I think and so they tell themselves that they are fine And thats exactly the problem|1 Peter Dutton is Australias Home Affair Minister he has been spending a lot of time with Australias Prime Minister due to some virus thing being inside the country The Prime Minister has announced mass gatherings like sports events or concerts are no longer allowed Heres the fun part the Prime Minister has also announced he will be going to a football match at a packed stadium on Sunday I guess thats how you lead by example|1 Maybe because of the actual person running it A science denierevangelicalpolitician during an election season are all bad combinations for a person to have to oversee this disaster Imagine a Flat Earther in charge of NASA that doesnt believe in evidence you can literally see same shit|0 Yeahh I wasnt a fan of them being named in the other post that was showing them very negatively But now Im glad they were because we can just ignore what theyre saying until others confirm it Because these two definitely seem capable of telling serious lies if it could get them off the ship Its understandable in a way but theyve lost their credibility|0 Whats the point of testing and knowing the infected number if theres no effective treatment and not effective means of isolation|0 At least it serves as the lower bound of the actual number of cases |0 If you ask me those who behave like that during this time will probably suffer their intended consequences in due time What is most unfortunate are those in the vulnerable group who will indirectly suffer from the rapid spread of infections his will ultimately create|0 The translation here is a bit misleading the word community here is or in Chinese better translated as resident compounds or gated communites You see most of the residential bulidings in China are situated in gated communites So for their address Chinese people general only write their community name and building number instead of the American style numberstreetcity Though most of those compounds prohibit non residents from entering these community rules are very seldom enforced in regular times The statement here orders the communities to strictly prohibit the entrance of non residents and to keep a detailed log of those returning from other places My communities started implementing these measures almost two weeks ago long before the bureaucrats started doing anythingAlso it did not order the closing of all non essential public places It ordered individual communities to close facilities inside them like sports and recreation center where people congregate a lot Last I checked the house where senior folks plays mahjong had been bolted shut with a large notice plastered over the door The shopping mall nearby is still in operation as of today while the barbershops are still closedPersonally I dont think the situation in Beijing is out of control based on my personal observations and my conversations with my friends here a large number of them uses Telegram so Im sure that they can speak freelySource lives in Beijing|1 Holy shit Youre the first redditor I have seen actually understand what he was calling a hoax Everyone else eats it up reminding me of trump supporters in their blind parroting|0 during pandemics they start to die more due to completely unrelated causes|0 Thank you my Reddit friend|1 Heres a theory maybe the buses etc were provided for the press to take their pictures andor footage and somebody thought it would be hilarious to hire them from Horseman coaches when in reality the passengers were on an entirely different set of buses Its the bait and switch like when they need to get celebrities past crowds of fansPaps into a waiting vehicle so they send a decoy out to a black cadillac and the celebrity goes out the back exit into an entirely different car a red Bentley Everyone thinks the celebrity is in the black car do thats the car they all photograph and follow Think about it those buses are pictured everywhere and as a Brit who uses coaches to travel long distance Ive NEVER seen a Horseman coach on the motorway Itd stick out like a sore thumb People would be panicking because theyve seen them on the news and they know what theyre carrying Theyd be accidents all over Itd be easier for them to just shove them all on national express or megabus coaches send them off nobody suspects anything Theyre decoy buses IMO Just whoever is in charge of staging them for the press has a really dark sense of humour|1 No they recommend AIIRs which are specifically for airborne diseases httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVhcpinfectioncontrolhtml|1 Maybe if China has a second outbreak the world will really understand we are not equipped to be globally interconnected as a species Maybe in a few hundred years but humans are not socially capable of leading through the complex systems currently|0 They are required to stabilize you Not treat Have a heart attack they will get you though it as cheaply as possible Try and get treatment like a bypass or even an appt with a cardiologist after they stabilize you and then discharge you I could go on but you get the point|0 That seems to be the attack rate that Imperial College is looking at for SARSCoV2 3040 symptomatic and 2030 asymptomatic|0 For those wondering about the authenticity of the posts it has been confirmed by a journalist and a famous actresshttpswwwredditcomrChinacommentsf1byx9dairyofagirlinwuhanshepostedondoubanafh4m26sThe above comment also contains another douban post that makes me cryPS Too many wumaos at rChina who kept saying these posts are fake without providing any evidence|0 Unfortunately I know of idiots actively assembling viewing parties for these kinds of streams but its a fantastic idea in theory|1 Looking at EU now pretty much entire EU have to pick Chinas method Most cant do South Korea method anymore|1 Enjoy your censorship concentration camps organ harvesting and propaganda|1 Wow Im sick as shit will all the symptoms of worry First thing I did was reschedule my appointment|0 Fuck he was working on The Witcher season 2|0 I didnt realize they had been elected into office too What a messed up ignorant world So sad its ending|0 China started this Thats like blaming Eastern Europe for starting WW2|0 And if you do get off you can make success kid meme for internet points|1 FFT Seems like your contact history your own cold symptoms and your sons condition justify a coronavirus test especially since more test kits are supposed to be available tomorrow and the barrier to testing has been lowered even further according to the press conference this evening Id push If he tests positive for corona and he is not improving they might be able to use some of these drugs that the Chinese have found to work I am assuming they have tried treating him for possible bacterial pneumonia with IV antibiotics Bacterial pneumonia doesnt always show up on those blood cultures they do Ive had to push for antibiotics in cases like this with the infectious disease docs they seem highly reluctant to use antibiotics empirically Is he on Oxygen|1 I agree but I assume that if I were to volunteer there would be some training with respect to that I would certainly be willing to go through certification processes in order to lessen the initial impact from this disease Most of the training Ive had was on CPR and minor injury though|1 What the fuck is going on man Here in Austria we have around 150 cases and every larger gathering is canceled No room anywhere with more than 100 people allowed Outside gatherings with 500 people maxWhat they do to the people in the US is simply outrageous|0 They are similar in how they can spread A good read on the similarities and differences httpswwwhopkinsmedicineorghealthconditionsanddiseasescoronaviruscoronavirusdisease2019vstheflu|1 I actually think you have a higher chance of getting infected after getting into an apartment elevator after someone has just sneezed and touching the buttons than sleeping on a park bench with the atmosphere extending hundreds of miles|0 may be used is quite important here I feel|1 Yep Im American but I live and work in China Shandong Province I left on vacation to Japan right as the outbreak started and have been stuck here for more than a month now Ive been following this thing religiously since the beginning|0 Overcrowding depends on capacity which is measured differently in every place And the rate of spending being lower is more connected to having more lower paid doctors than most countries like the UK for instance which has fewer but very highly paid doctors|0 Fuck that Wear them if you want Theyll be in some big shit if they fire you for that|0 Shhh its a deadly disease for everyone that will destroy mankind s|0 If youd like I can send you a CD thatll give you a free 30day trial Of course if you accidentally forget to cancel at the end of the trial we will charge your credit card for 6 months no matter how many times you try to cancel LOL|1 cries in Colombian spanish|0 Aside from a bit of stomach upset at the start Ive had zero side effects And I have a shitty sensitive body Definitely worth a try lichen planus sounds annoying|0 Ill watch it until the day I die which funnily enough may be next Tuesday|0 Yep I still think its going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better but we can hope|1 That is definitely not playing in favour of the already constrained medical facilities in Northern Italy|0 Not real lives though Just collateral damage of the herd|0 When a spouse blatantly disregards the health of the other spouse its time to seriously reconsider your relationship They dont respect your opinions concerns or care about how their actions may impact you and your health That is not someone who cares|0 No American should have to worry about not receiving rent from their tenants amid COVID19 pandemic peasants please pay up before you die Trump|0 Just cuz their president is a moron doesnt mean all the people are as well|0 You are already hardening yourself when theres no food left right |0 My 80 was more of a demonstration of the basic principle that you cant use averages to solely inform likely outcomes variance is also important I was not in any way trying to provide accurate statistics I will edit the parent comment accordingly|1 Duh i should have figured Legal growers are probably on a tight leash and wont risk having illegal immigrants work|1 Yes someone had a good comparison the other day They said something along the lines of not many people died on the first day of WW1|1 Went to my grandmas today and the first time ever we didnt hug each other when I arrived or when I left|0 The comments and questions submitted were not moderated well 22 days ago There were a lot of badly worded questions and comments designed to create panic that were coming from the more paranoid subreddits I was frustrated with the poor moderation and commented about the other comments on this post Theyve stepped it up a lot|0 yeah natural selection is a thing|1 Hopefully Im assuming they are one of the infected people in Toronto and thats how Air Transat knows|0 Lol this is false Up until a month ago I was an ICU nurse anticipate being reassigned back in the coming weeks I routinely cared for two people who were intubated and on the vent while managing multiple types of sedative BPmaintaining and antiarrhythmic drips on each patient Sometimes with continuous dialysis insulin drips or hypothermia therapy running as well Any ICU trained nurse should be capable of caring for two vented patients at a time at least And if needed regular floor nurses will get a crash course in how to monitor these patients We may need to run a scenario where an ICU trained nurse is charge over a larger than normal group of ICU patients titrating drips trouble shooting vent problems accessing lines etc and a floor nurse is the bedside nurse who watches to make sure nobody is dying while the charge nurse is occupied|1 We are not begging for Trumps help we are asking for the PRESIDENTS help which is his JOB take care of your citizensOh and by the way MORON|1 I hope youre right but its only been 500 people|1 COVID19 is a respiratory disease Should anyone with a preexisting respiratory condition contract the disease they may find their medical condition further compromised and possibly dire Whether or not the person you are concerned about is in this category is a determination only their health care provider can make Heres a link you may find helpful httpsyoutubeW5yVGmfivAk Vitamin D and Immunity It was posted herehttpsyoutubeW5yVGmfivAk where you may find additional information in the comments beneficial to both of you|1 if thats what you want to infer by far the biggest conspiracy theory in terms of what the truth is is that its an engineered bioweapon im just debunking that shitty theory with facts and logic|0 Thank you|1 to get samples you know wear the viral protection kit and how to remove it safely and how to take samples safely|1 Where do you get these numbersUS has 16k to 49k deaths because of flu The range is because older people have several issues when they die One of them is the flu|0 Plus NBA players are a viruss wet dream Physical contact between players sweat everywhereon the basketball the court the seats A team plays in Utah on Monday and gets infected then theyre playing in Boston Thursday and spread it there another team from another state the week after Meanwhile Bostons in Detroit spreading it to those players Days later both Boston and Detroit are playing new teams Now there are 6 teams in under a weak and itll be the entire league in a month since its exponential If they didnt postpone immediately nearly every player couldve been infected by the time the first person was showing symptoms|0 more like declaring his approval rating of today as an emergency|1 Yup and this country is still full of They dont see it coming nor do they see the mistakes we are currently making like still having criteria for testing sigh its like almost painful to watch like a bad horror flick|0 Oh fuck me This is way deeper than anyone wants to fucking bother with What the fucking fuckWhats happening Huh Wu Who Huh Ha Nno|0 If everyone wants to believe in karma Is the virus karma for how shitty we are to our planet|0 Thank the maker I work in the industry and my Twitter is a constant stream of Daytona news|1 No its based on 47 chromosomes|0 I mean lets look at Tuesday Super Tuesday so many people will be voting in their primaries and being around other peoplePandemic mitigation just one more reason for a 100 paperballot votebymail system Washington Oregon and Colorado are already doing it Whats everyone else waiting for|1 Yupp Typical American heath insurance bullshit|0 I tired to find this info yesterday but couldnt will be interest to see if anyone else knows|0 If youre going to uproot just move someone isolated in the US|0 Upstate NY here Hand sanitizer supplies got smacked today Can still find it here and there though Masks are pretty much sold out|1 At least he wasnt being bigoted So its all good|1 I saw somewhere that only 510 of all infections in the community will be detected ie only those severe enough to seek medical care not sure what their basis was for thishttpswwwevergreenhealthcomcoronavirus|0 Ok This 14 americans are in USA now And they tested as positive in airport not on ship Do we need to count this group as cases in United States or in Diamond Princess or in Japan I confused about it|1 Fuck 3M|0 Minus the libertarian tendencies Roosevelt was the face of the progressive party|1 France everyone come join the smurf parade|1 Well yes those things count but it doesnt delay the spread from the ass hat that works at McDonalds and give out a McCovid burger to everyone that comes in or anyone else that has to go to work School is another issue as they are huge transmission vectors The kinds of social distancing thats needed needs to happen needs to happen even on a micro scale ie small groups like the mom and pop shops This virus has a ridiculous R0 I mean look at Italy they went from small quarantine to large scale in a hurry|1 I dont have access to UV light and also UV light probable will not penetrate the masks and destroy virus stuck inside the fabricBut I would have loved to have a UV light disinfection thing for food containers|0 Can we start a coronavirus quarantine porn sub Asking for a friend|1 Any stuff lying around you could sell FB marketplace is a good way to get a few extra dollars quickly|0 China Disinfects a streetReddit cHiNa BaD Xi JiN pInG bAd It iS uSeLesS CoMmUnIsM Only if the west put that energy into containing the virus|0 They are severely underreporting the number of cases likely due to an inability to test that many people With a hospitalization rate of about 20 there should be more like 200000 cases in China|0 Kudos to Disney|1 36 roentgens like a chest xray|1 Pretty sure they already are|1 I agree but doubt there will actually be that many confirmed maybe by next Friday|0 Have they been tracking travelers since after Dec 8 when the first symptoms were documentedThis is what I want to know This virus could already be way more spread out than we can even imagine if any asymptomatic infected persons were traveling before Christmas there could be untold thousands of cases being incubated right now I mean its maybe a stretch because I admittedly am a level 0 expert in epidemiology but from first signs of symptoms til now its been nearly 2 months of freedom to move around|1 Huh I have this as well I thought it was stress Maybe it is but yeah|1 Seeing as I work at walmart this worries me|0 Welcome to the Princess Petridish Quarantine Cruise I am the ships Captain Covid19 We will have a wonderful time and l will be with you for the next 21 days|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Why are they still onboard Weve had a week to figure out a safe quarantine location|1 Could be doing better but the health authorities are doing a fairly good job contract tracingThis sub just has a very weird Conservative Canadian slant and likes to hate on Trudeau for not banning all flights from China Its like they forgot the Conservatives censored scientists and sent them to international conferences with Government Minders to monitor who they spoke to and what information they shared|1 Im hopeful for these drugs as well What wonderful news it would be if an effective answer to this disease has already been fully developed|1 Hopefully whatever they are doing to help the average citizen losing jobs will also help those landlords so that they can indeed stop any rent from happening on top of mortgages|1 It will kill viruses as well|0 I read somewhere that hospitals have just started developing their own tests but they still need to get FDA approval to actually use them Wish I could find the article|1 Obviously not true but I thought it was funny|1 There are more daily yes but almost all the cases are people returning from ChinaWuhan and then getting diagnosed in a separate country IIRC there are only a handful of 2nd gen cases and they were basically all family members of 1st gen|1 This is the real statistic the real death rate|0 I understand your argument If we had rolled out mass testing early and initiated good social distancing like South Korea and Taiwan things would be a lot different and way more effective Canada is still middle of the road and its not too late to still initiate those things Im not sure where our government is exactly but I hope they realize soon that testing only symptomatic individuals is a logical fallacy Unfortunately though the SARSCoV2 virus does is not only fatal in the old There are enough cases of young people becoming ill that we cant rule it as just being an old person disease Young people who are seriously affected may have long term health issues later on posing a heavier load on the healthcare system It is only mild for those as I speculate who are only exposed to a small amount of the virus which is rarely the case now as spread continues Many people experience heavy fever a very difficult time breathing etc that comes in waves If a good majority get put out of work due to this our economy will tank still Our population is also not self sustaining enough to mitigate these effects which will also hurt the economyIts important in this time to practice social distancing so that those who are essential to the economic and basic survival of the country can do their jobs without risk If you can work from home which most jobs involving some sort of electronic component can then there is no economic impact 3 essential people in the office is still way better than 50 We have the capacity to protect those 3 This takes people off the bus and limits spread which also helps our medical system and also provides more medical resources for vaccines and drug treatments to be developed at a faster pace|1 capitalism officially ended slavery in the western worldHahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha|0 yeah but unless the unknown factor is invisible it leaves traces and to be a source these traces have to be found in all infected patientsi highly doubt that the scientist who discovered it is a complete fail and knows his job especially when a global pandemic is at stakeThe preliminary sequence data indicating the presence of a severe acute respiratory syndrome SARSrelated coronavirus in patients lung lavage samples were obtained on Dec 26 2019 by NGSThe Chinese authorities ruled out SARS and MERS as well as a few other noncoronaviruses on Jan 5 2020 and confirmed a novel coronavirus as a potential cause on Jan 9 2020However the genome sequencecrucial for rapid development of diagnostics needed in an outbreak responsewas not released until Jan 12 202017 days after the preliminary sequence data were obtainedHere is the sourced report and further links to what when has happened and who was responsiblehttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620303500fulltextrssyes|0 Do elaborate Id love to learn more about myself|1 Nobody ever says anything good about it though Granted Naples is sketchy as fuck too|1 The right political answers would be difficult but he has to come up with the right political answers according to Trumps unpredictable metrics Id feel sorry for the dude if he werent such an odious roadieEdit to say toadie but roadie is such a funny autocorrect Im leaving it|1 Thats nice yet we cant get more than 12 tests a day My only point is we havent seen more than 12 a day and the presidents virus task force hasnt been heard from for weeksSame with a national CDC press conference and the fact that NO one minus MSNBC is asking why we have tested so few and what that means for our actual reported case numbersSeveral edits cause this lack of testing has me heated for a virus that transmits like the flu|0 Probably because drug companies are likely already lobbying for the exclusive rights to produce those kits and also racing to produce a vaccine and get the exclusive rights to that In reality coronavirus is probably worth billions of dollars to the right company and right now its a race to see how can cash in first|1 Trudeau doesnt close borders What an IdiotTrudeau closes borders What an idiot|0 Its funny that you mention Europe Its true the service in the average European well my experience is mostly France and UK restaurant is not even close to what you can get in the average US restaurantIn the US if my drink ever runs dry 1 from your tipBut is it right In my experience European diners dont see themselves as superior to their servers in the same way that Americans do|1 Im not saying they SHOULDNT test everyone What Im saying is there are currently not enough tests available to do so and that is partially due to the fact that SK tested everyone regardless of symptoms or lack there of|0 Id just like to not be called a doomer I really dont get the mentality in the other subsWhen I see the new BNO numbers posted every day I am now numb to the actual numbers because I know they are not accurate Whether its from intentionally false reporting or not I know that not everyone who needs to be seen by a doctor is being seen just like I know that everyone who needs hospitalization is not getting it testing kits were short for a while too and until recently china had more rigid diagnosing standards Unless they still have empty beds waiting for new patients everyday you cannot accurately estimate cases People reading those numbers alone look for the tiniest of trenddeath toll down one day and just assume that that is exactly what will continue to happen The lack of common sense hurts my brainWhat we know is it is extremely transmissible contagious while asymptomatic and can live on surfaces for quite a long time I know the virus doesnt have a consciousness but it has literally mutated into something that will live forever just like the season flu unless we get a vaccine for it and require stores at 95 of the population to take itTalking about globally we are going to have a rough go of it until a vaccine is created does not make me a doomer If the US of all places struggles with just the peak of flu season every year imagine the dynamic duo of seasonal flu and coronavirus Its going to get ugly|0 All masks are effective Tests show even cheapMedical ones are 65 more effective that nothing So dont buy into that rubbish|1 To be fair the Obama Administration was generally transparent and competent during the Ebola scare in the run up to 2016 Patients who contracted the disease outside the US were flown back here for advanced treatment despite the unjust fear it stoked right before the election and especially the predictable unjust exploitation of that fear by Republicans We all saw the 247 cable news feed of healthcare workers taking extreme precaution and using proper PPE So yeah This isnt a thing with all politicians Lets not bothsides it This is a thing with our current Administration objectively lying about risks and ground conditions and generally just not preparing I dont even think this is political Its connected to a man with a severe pathology of sociopathy and malignant narcissism A man who per his biographies never listens to experts is infamous for not reading and has the attention span of a peanut|1 hi been following BNO since the outbreak because it looks like the most trustworthy websitex200BCan I ask why did the Chinese regions get combined to one group Lack of data from the government My family is in Beijing so I was using your resource to make sure they are safex200BThanks again for keeping me up to date with the news|1 If you are claiming this Exposure to large amounts of air pollution might impact how severe respiratory symptoms are Then it would be better to say There s a link between the SEVERITY OF SYMPTOMS and the pollution levlels I really dont see a meaningful difference between these two statements except that my original statement is more tentative because I say there might be a link while you there there is a link which I dont claim Bascially when i first read you title i get the idea that the virus infection HAPPENS where there s pollution and thats not what you mean as far as i understandYes I understand you read it that way but I dont think that was implied in the title and it certainly wasnt what I intendedEdit On further thought I think a better title for this post would have been Potential effect of air pollution on COVID19 respiratory symptomsThat would have hopefully prevented any misunderstanding Unfortunately Reddit wont let me edit my post titles|1 Not cutting the CDC budget and not cutting the pandemic team or their work could have prevented this Actually having tests ready and widely available would save countless lives Lets not make this politicalYoure right We shouldnt But heres the thing its not political to point out that the Trump administration has bungled this every step of the way Maybe wed still have the coronavirus if he hadnt of cut everything but at least we would be more prepared|1 Such a good news|1 Its almost like they have people that depend on them and responsibilitiesI know you want to keep your loved ones safe hell my father is immunocompromised and I worry that he wont survive this but realize that these people youre judging are living paychecktopaycheck and they arent getting paid to stay home This really is a tough spot people are being put in|0 CDC may be overwhelmed but its certainly not from testing people|1 No reason to go overboard though Its always good to have some non perishable foods Usually 2 weeks worth is the right amount|1 BNO Are you serious A twitter based news serviceDid you even look at the source links Just because something says source doesnt mean its accurateFolks we can do better than this If youre not sure something is true and can back it up with cites but just talk vaguely At least then you wont be leading people on|1 I do this too I hope it makes them feel better I say Im not mad at you Im sorry if Im yelling Im just really frustrated by your companys policies but I know its not you I really hope they understand|1 Thanks for the chuckle|1 To be clear Italy is not just testing severe cases The reason their case numbers are as high as they are is because theyre testing everyone who might have run a risk of being infected That means they probably have a decent view of the iceberg So if they say 10 needs intensive care dont ignore it Its probably not an overblown number|1 Maybe Im just a pessimist but I found it to be extremely believable|0 Someone needs to tell these people Ireland canceled all st Patricks celebrations If we arent celebrating our national holiday nobody else needs to|0 How about those exposed people in Kirkland WA who after being denied testing began spitting on the floors and walls|0 Well my first thought was wank a lot natural stress relief and clears a blocked nose|1 I literally cant hoard the stuff Cider goes to the pie hole immediately like magic|1 It is also a good idea to contact health officials to get tested and get her a mask if you can find one Or something that can cover her mouth so you are protected Seek medical help asap for her which is best for her health and for others around her|1 Have a look at the ones they give but generally its because the situation isnt out of control and no additional measures past business as usual are needed to address it Its good that theyre not getting pushed by the media scaremongering to make rash decisions|0 My family friends are on the ship in Japan About 100 people have fevers and 1415 suspected cases |1 Fuck|0 Everyone is trying to profit from this and it is creating a patchwork of tests Since we have no direct guidance from feds its a shit show|0 Not Science obviously but might resonate with some So then this is Gaias immune response pruning and resetting the hominid floraThe C02 the plastic were bad enough but the full speed ahead had to be cut short|0 Im not sure what its like during peak times but every time Ive used it recently most people have been at least a meter away from anyone else|1 Heres to hoping the US gets this sorted out quickly one way or another Because right now it feels like the only response has been economic policies and press conferences|1 Large events are defacto banned with the removal of emergency service support|0 Heres the thing anything is on the table When shit hits the fan we will hopefully be doing whatever it takesIf they can force 18 yr olds to jump out of helicopters into rice paddys in Vietnam they can stop us going to church|0 The government is so fucking incompetent it isnt even funny|0 Thats their strategy You can tell its them if they mass downvote early on but your post recovers and ends up with positive karma in the end|1 How do you decide what is a conspiracy and what discussion should be banned especially when even the official unbiased and completely honest source aka the WHO says that there are too many unknowns to affirm anything At a certain time just hinting that maybe the virus did not originate from the wet market were taboo and censored people banned Yet now after the preliminary investigation by the CCP and their CDC we know it did not originate from there The CCP going even further to say that the virus was introduced to China from abroad The topic about similarities with HIV especially when the Indian paper came in then was quickly censored to oblivion despite some countries announcing successfully using HIV therapies and medicine Any topic approaching this idea was soo taboo that even topics refuting the claim were disappeared Today even researchers and doctors from China are publishing medical papers on these similarities httpchinaxivorgabs20200200004 When the airborne and aerosols topic came in anyone relaying the information by the CCP was accused of fearmongering and reporting fake news The information was so much censored that even today while the WHO doesnt refute the information anymore the public and most countries health organizations and politics are still oblivious to the risk Were see the results of this in few weeksThe problem is contrary to even the CCP that recognized their error in suppressing information and accusing it of fake newsfearmongering and started investigations All of the censorship and abuse on Reddit all of the suppressed information and banned people have not been restored all the lost prevention time will never be restoredThe only meaculpa was Oh some mods have fucked up we changed them But the rules did not change especially not the deletion and censorship that is not based on rules but on personal feelings and beliefs And while we dont see CCP censorers going online boasting Ive spent the past weeksmonths suppressing information we have mods doing that and being completely supported by other mods as a teamWere not two enemy teams the mods vs community If youre just people were all in this together The virus and its fallouts dont care about anyones feelings and suppressing information wont change the outcome outside of making it worseRather than suppressing information that could be life saving how about you flair it Unverified Claim Rumor Conspiracy Theory Noncredible source etc At least theres a chance to correct a flair when its proven true|0 Because at least half the population dont believe its necessary The president was calling the whole thing a hoax just a week ago There hasnt been fear mongering by the media they trust|1 Great news if true I hope we shut down the whole country Its early enough that we can still contain this Woot woot Finally some hope|1 Really I live in Britain and his scholarship of Greek and Latin is fairly well known Have you seen his debate with Mary Beard about ancient Greece|1 Idea What about aerosolisation during toilet flushing You flush the toilet and a small amount of heavily infected matter is aerosolised attracted to moist surfaces such as a toothbrushIs this related to the Hong Kong governments statement that SARs was transmitted through drainage pipes and why residents are being advised to irrigate not block those pipesSquat toilets are more common in China so there is less protection from toilet lidsRelated articlehttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0195670111003392httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0195670111003392The fecal to oral route is mentioned here toohttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed32065057i4fromcoronavirushttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed32065057i4fromcoronavirusMore detail mentioning possible more likely oral transmission in early stage that then switches to fecal in the later stagehttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202002studiesshowcovid19likelyhasmultipleinfectionrouteshttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202002studiesshowcovid19likelyhasmultipleinfectionroutes|1 Ive had a moderately large order in for 2 weeks I need a specific type for my septic system which is at best only one brand stocked in stores and wasnt seeing any while shopping for the better part of this month They say its still going to be delivered but it normally would have been a 12 day order|1 Yes|1 It has The latest data indicate a 692 years At birth Which means its actually less for current old people are younger generation tend to live in better condition and outlive older ones global trend|1 Maybe for some but I like to hold people in the utmost regard and think many of us will change eating habits Just skipping that fast food lunch everyday with a soda would have a large impact|1 Its super unlikely that the power water or gas gets shut down But its not out of the question that food shipments slow down or stop So looters looking for food isnt super unlikely|1 Hope they have it on tape would be very interesting to watch an intense operation like this|1 Chill out epidemic specialist the efficiency in quarantining the epicentres are commendable noHave you seen legitimate sources citing the number of deaths Then dont spit out second rate conjecture you bucket and no Twitter aint a source LMAO|0 I love that guy having been one on many occasions|1 Thing are not that bad reallyThe kiddos will come back to school next week except that village and the surround area so the best option is quarantine until all are tested then further quarantine who are positive At least thats my view Its also much easier when all the tracking is within that area less suspect cases easier to sort out easier to take care the positive casesThat village is like a tiny portion compares to Wuhan Internet and phone is still good to access and luckily the censorship isnt too bad just avoid politics stuff and youre good plus facebook everywhere haha no am not use facebookIn fact the most hard controlled is the uni students who also work part time or full time in many places if a student being a super spreader the contact may up to hundred or thousands That can lead to an epidemicSource Im a native viet used to live in Hanoi for near 20 years before come to SG|1 Im in Olympia WA I have friends up in Tacoma and one in Seattle that each recently returned from South Korea They have the cough and other symptoms but no tests are available The Seattle friend wants to stay home to protect others but her supervisor wont let her She works at a college so um yeahSome family practice doctors up here arent even seeing patients with respiratory symptoms because they themselves have inadequate protective gear for their staff|1 Thank you The place Im working is finally beginning to shut things down My worry is I already have it but I do feel fine so Im hoping Im just being anxious as fuck|0 Spanish flu started in Kansas|0 I did another post on the national syndromic surveillance program They are NOT totally dependent upon testing to find a problem That system is always in almost real time looking for spikes and I am sure is being looked at httpswwwcdcgovnsspindexhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovnsspindexhtml|0 I work as a courier This is scary|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Its counterintuitive but actually oddly good news bc that increase means more folks are getting tested Thousands have likely been infected for weeks Id guess but its just now were seeing the numbers bc were apparently actually getting the testing going finallythough I still have no idea where or how to access one should I or someone I love need it|1 I did too and it sent my brain to a very dark place I unsubbed from all of them except for this one and the support one I need facts and support not fear and hysteria Well wishes to you and yours|1 Anyone remember Baghdad Bob from the 90s There is no American invasion Nothing to see here|0 Its a capitalist society if the market really works new Hospitals should be popping up I mean China can build one in 10 days so capitalism and a market economy being a superior system should be able to build new hospitals in 5 daysI mean in what other business are you guaranteed 15 million customers with no pricing power|1 Dont just sue him throw him straight back in prison If hes getting people thinking theyre well and theyre not thats endangering their lives and the lives of other vulnerable folks Its basically murder with extra steps|0 To clarify The 250k number is based on a 4 rate of hospitalisation of the populationWere expecting perhaps 50 per cent or as much as 80 per cent of the population would be infected during that epidemic|0 Getting out while the getting is good|1 If you mean by fix it that they will flatten the curve so their healthcare system can deal with it then yesWhat it wont do is get rid of the virus But it will help slow it down a lot Once you lift a lockdown it will come back though That will happen to Wuhan as well We have to accept that this virus will stay with us until a large portion of the population is infected and herd immunity builds or until there is a vaccine|1 They dont but Trump claimed a few times I think but maybe just once that they do Because hes an idiot|0 whos going to put themselves at risk Looking around at the state of some peoples attitudes id say theres plenty who dont care about the risk seeing as theyre not in the at risk group|0 I work as a housekeeper and while I dont believe I have carona I have lost my voice thanks to a cough No fever I went to work today with my raspy ass voice and the supervisor was not concerned I wanted to prove to all of them I wasnt fakingI worked today but I asked her if she thought coughing into my arms and then stuffing my arms into a pillow case was sanitary She thinks Im over reacting And thinks its related to the weather We arent doctors but Im pretty sure my cough and raspy voice isnt from the weatherIf you want to travel and stay I hotels thank the house keepers who have to clean up after some of you foul monsters And also hope that they take care in using proper hand hygiene when handling towels and bedding I promise I do|1 Yeah I went today and this is exactly how my store looked too All that was left was a single bag of crushed expired croissants and some glutenfree buns I was considering buying the glutenfree ones but I figure the stores might be able to restock in a week or two anyway and in the meanwhile I have some crackers and naan I can eat instead|0 Hi I did read the article and posted my comment because I was expecting it to be about current vs future riskwhat gets left out of onesentence summaries and it wasnt The article talks more about policy than communication Im not from the US and dont know as much as Id like to about policy there so dont feel I can make a good judgement of the article on that basis and wanted to think through more of the communication stuff that I felt like it missed out Maybe this wasnt the right place for it I dont think I sound particularly smart I was partly trying to say I have no idea whats going to happen beyond right now and dont have a good solution for anything This is just how I write and Im not super interested in toning it down with more slang or whatever unless its actually making me harder to understand in which case I apologiseAnyway Im really not trying to be confrontational here my first comment was mostly thinking out loud Like I said maybe not the place for it though|1 I have an Airbnb rental in Bryson City Im getting cancellations and then getting bookings from people in SC NC TN I think if youre one gas tank away and bring your own food stay out of restaurants which I hear are closed it should be OK|1 This Everyone in this thread is acting like these people are screaming in pain No these are cooped up people bored and anxious screaming just to be heard to be part of the chorus Im here too I can hear you Its stress relief its howling at the moon The situation in Wuhan is horrifying but I dont think this is if anything its proof theres still life in Wuhan|0 The province I live in has a 370 day wait for diagnostic imaging Socialist health care doesnt work|1 Now what we need is a sky moat to stop pesky particles in the air and those strange metal birds|0 I think you meant with the virus Cant cope without it makes it sound like the nhs is reliant on the virus|1 My wife is Chinese here in the US and shes frightened to leave I cant imagine what its like for people in ChinaIf they think its going to be easy to start back up China has another thing coming|1 Looks like everyone on that flight to Toronto could be infected|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Ah the boomer is strong in this one|1 We are already homeschooling and have been for a week Im considering keeping it permanent because my kids work has improved dramatically without all the distractions Also its pretty nice not having to rush out the door every morning|1 I like how people keep making comments like this while everyone is fully aware that the official numbers from China mean jack shitIts like its pouring down rain outside and folks just keep saying Boy what a beautiful sunny day it is and when you try to point out the rain they get mad and say Well thats what the weather report said Sure it might not be accurate but its the best we got Boy what a beautiful sunny day it is|1 Hood gangsters arent gonna do shit against the National Guard If they quarantine your city which they will if the virus gets bad enough then theyre not gonna have idiot gangsters running around free in the streets|1 This is just the Freedom of Speech argument The consensus opinion is more reliable than the expert opinionThis is where we disagree on these two pointsThis is not the freedom of speech argument reddit is a company and as such they can do whatever they want with your comments but lets ignore that you are free to create your own sub and never remove a comment if a user made a subreddit rcoronavirus you cant force him to moderate it as you want they own itI disagree with the second statement as well I have found that there are a lot more armchair experts among normal people than experts in the topic armchair experts will say X thing as a fact if they think is true experts usually need solid evidence to say something with certainty if they dont have it they make it clear they are speculating or theres lacking evidence|1 Theres also people who board the flight with you Even for a connection flight many prior were boarding from Wuhan so youre not safe in a metal tube|0 Thank you Thats my hope for all of the posts I made here I may not have much information or knowledge I just want more people to know were still trying|1 Yes Its very important to know quickly if people who have travelled all around the country in the last few days have the virus Not just for their health but for the health of everybody else|1 Two of the leading epidemiologists on outbreaksGabriel Leung of Hong Kong University and Harvards Marc Lipsitchpredicted that up to 60 percent of the planet could be infected by the novel coronavirus httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulationhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulation httpswwwspiegeldeinternationalworldidontthinktheviruscanbestoppedanymorea03d404e6762b42fbac48e4a8f03a2f2bhttpswwwspiegeldeinternationalworldidontthinktheviruscanbestoppedanymorea03d404e6762b42fbac48e4a8f03a2f2b World population 7700000000 60 percent of 4600000000 34 percent of 156000000 The overall casefatality ratio might improve if a larger fraction of mild cases are revealed or it might worsen if the virus spreads widely in countries with a high proportion of highrisk individuals ex Italy The takeaway If this virus reaches a lot of people it has the potential to do serious damage|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Will COVID19 go away on its own in warmer weathertldr Probably not By Dr Marc Lipsitch httpswwwredditcomrcvnewsduplicatesfagxs3|1 He has been holding rallies and shaking hands|0 Hmmm well I guess yeah better than nothing but probably doesnt have alcohol in it as that would be harsh to a babys skin Alcohol kills coronavirus|0 Based on rapid spread in warm countries and warm states this will definitely not slow down in summer|1 Depends what filter theyre using most modern masks have a 40mm fit that allows anything to attach|1 When people have enough pride they become arrogant|0 Its absolutely annoying especially since there are studies showing that people are most infectious during incubation time hence when they do not show symtomsdo not feel sickhttpseditioncnncom20200314healthcoronavirusasymptomaticspreadindexhtmlutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 Damn Thats bananas The more I learn about technology from that era the more impressed I am Remember some show way back when where a team of engineershistorians tried to build the original Wright flyer They couldnt even get the engine to fire right Literally wouldnt turn over and just run|1 All the countries that have this under control are doing widespread community testing and we have just stopped|0 I rarely see credibility and Epoch Times in the same sentence|1 You pulling your child out creates a knockon effect for teachers and other workers at the schoolTbf saying this as a teacher it certainly makes the burden easier if there were less kids in class XDI understand your other points though best thing people can do is just be extra vigilant and disciplined with hand washing and I mean extra disciplined Personally im carrying hand sanitizer everywhere I go and pretty soon use it after touching anything in public areas|1 The biggest reason is that they think people would abuse it They dont want low staff levels at the end of the year during spring breaks or hoilidays|0 I have read the damn link since day 1 You dont know what youre talking about Those are TESTED cases Only serious cases are being tested in an awful lot of countries In countries doing widespread testing only 1 mortality|0 I dont want my government to tell me to expect the loss of my loved ones I want my government to take extensive action against it like has happened in South KoreaThis is why every other government is running a fools errand trying to stop this Even in South Korea or China it isnt at all clear that they can eradicate this epidemicEveryone is getting the same scientific advice but not everyone is heeding it in the same way What has happened in South Korea is exactly what models tell us to expect if strong suppression occurs The models based on past experience also tell us to expect reoccurrence of outbreaks from small unidentified populations at the worst time winterYour post contains a massive IF IF the rest of the world eradicates this disease and the UK acts as a reservoir then we will be seen as massively irresponsible But then again we are an island nation and can be quarantinedBut look at the world and remember that the confirmed case count is way lower than the real toll This hasnt been contained wont be eradicated The Chinese reaction came too late after too much denial and suppression of the truth It wont be stopped this is with us now and will be seasonalManage it or dont those are our choices The rest of the world is just reacting as people tend to at first theyll come around|0 Wouldnt surprise me if it was more|0 feels like its going to be worse|0 I read this as your resources are scarce and youre going to have to triage the fuck out of cases so figure out how to communicate that granny is gonna die because a 50 year old father of three needs the ventilator|0 The first confirmed death in Kansas was a posthumous test|0 The lack of COVID19 testing and utterly incoherent leadership at the top of the US government has contributed both to the tanking stick market and everyday peoples sense of panic|0 Are gloves at the pump possiblereasonable Along with cleaning and hand washing of course|1 Underpaid risking life In Malaysia gov wants to cut number of healthcare staff and wont hire new staffs|0 He is literally one of the most credible possible sources over NBA I had to double check too more of a college hoops fan personally|1 Yeh most of the info still seems to say if you are young andor healthy it isnt too severe Hopefully we will see the recoveries continue increasing Still its a horrible situation|0 Not sure Netflix will purchase 100mill budget films|0 Or effective measures like temperature checks and a mask culture it looks like its working in China really hard to see what the long term plans are for the US when none of these issues would seemingly be addressed at all|1 you sure you havent come in contact with ANYBODY at all that could POSSIIBLY have had ANY contact with ANYONE from Iran Italy or China in the past 14 days Because the incubation period is really what gets people You can have symptoms have them disappear for days only to reappear soon after as the far more aggressive coronavirus Just urging caution|0 I think this is all fair There were also coverups and censorship but realistically they did not or could not keep up with the counting I wonder what their true CFR was|1 Oh right yeah exactly Cabin fever after 2 weeks would start to build and the English population have a great saying which would start to take overFuck it|1 Im young and healthy we no preexisting conditions I dont even need to worry about this coronavirus For all I care Ill go to the biggest crowds and still show no symptoms Oh wait Even if I have no symptoms I can pass the virus on to my family and they will be effected from it Shoot thats not good|0 Orchestrating people eating disgusting and diseaseridden rancid bat meat at exotic meat markets|0 This actually helps me Ive been spraying it down but Ill just let it sit for a few days Most of its garbage anyway|0 Great by whom Some more defying the quarantine BTW noone from China should take a high moral ground right now|1 Im a healthcare worker and it patients wont be tested unless there are multiple showing up at the same hospital and the doctors are smart enough to put 2 and 2 together At my hospital it probably would jot happen until it made the local news that there are other numerous cases in the area our doctors cant even diagnose flu properly half the time which will leave all of us workers exposed|1 Thank you Jennifer|1 I rolled my eyes when he said thatNo the numbers are rapidly changing The situation has always been lethal pandemic with exponential growth|1 This news is so hopeful that I will accept your UwU|1 When we think about community spread we should think about the community spread in the United States and how close of a relationship we have with Americans We are extremely close You think the virus wont be spread communally here within like 2 weeks after its already happening a few states down Asking questions and wanting clear answers instilling panic There are valid points and questions being made that dont have to equate to fear mongering Were all smarter than that and we can discern for ourselves through open discussion|1 Now youre shoehorning the argument into weapons only Political treatises can be made without a globalist organisations like UN and EU and if they were keeping their purpose to just that then Id be fine with it problem is that it isnt just that they do They create plans for governments and their peoples as if theyre architects of the world Again no one asks who they answer to or what their true aim is but one thing is for sure They dont want people to object they want more power and they seek to diminish the power of local governments Thats a problem|0 But probably not 3 less of the ones wandering around just the more vulnerable casualties of their neglect|0 With the business climate in AB already at an alltime low and the death of retail I wouldnt be surprised if the mall doesnt survive this as terrible as it sounds |0 Thats where FEMA should step in They provide food relief in natural disasters They could help with that part of the problem|1 Im sorry but I dont really understand what youre suggesting Do you think that the magic hand of the free market will somehow make sure everyone has a living wage if the government just stops regulating|1 lmao this Governor needs to resign|1 because in US you have high sanitary standards and strict regulations with regards to sale of such meat For example if you shoot a deer you are not allowed to sell the meat only eat yourself unless you get a specific permit that is both expensive and requires you to have a licensed facility for processing that meat This is why most facilities do not bother with it and even slaughterhouses that process all kinds of meat will refuse processing deer for you because they would need a different license for it|0 Are you seriousIf no stop readingElse there already was the confirmation of covid19 in KZN and then Saturday March 7th it was confirmed in GP so i have bad news for you its already here and sure you can stay in your little town and not travel but that wont stop covid19 to come to youJust to put what i said into perspective for example yesterday i came from my small town to johhanesburg to drop someone off at the international airport so i was there for a few hours and tomorrow im heading home if i had gotten it at the airport my friends im staying at will have it now their friends and family will get it and all the people i interact with on my route back home also stand a chance lf getting it and so one it goes|1 The US doesnt have a dead tourist industry and isnt an insignificant nation in world affairs like El Salvador The US taking this action isnt feasible or advisable El Salvador can do it without anyone even caring|1 What I do not understand is how so so many people completely ignore what has happened over the entire world in just 60 days This has not happened in our lifetime our parents lifetime and quite probably our grandparents lifetime Entire countries do not quarantine for just the flu And do you really think countries would overreact or risk the devastating effects that are being had on the economy for something that is not serious at allWhile I am still on my soapboxYou are watching and living history being made This virus and what is happening in the world will be in your grandchildrens history books and history books for hundreds of years to follow The only sheeple I see are the idiots who really believe this is a political agenda and not serious And lord help you if you try to educate them with factsRED OR BLUE this affects you|0 25 and that unfunny Thats kind of sad lol|0 I heard a rumour that China is quarantining all any incoming arrivels for 28 days Not sure if that is true or not|1 Also even if youre young and can tough out the virus people around you might not be able to You might not realize you are sick if your body fights off the virus well but that doesnt prevent you from potentially spreading it to others Please dont go out and do dumb stuff just because you personally can survive the virus|0 China contained it pretty well Spreads to world but I guess the term well is relative|1 Its on Spotify for free|1 A factory isnt just a building full of engineers screwing together bits of metal or workers who can build stuff Theres a specific assembly line with specific machinery A bulldozer building company cannot make face masks and if they did I wonder how many people would sue them when it turns out they werent effective|0 I would love some study on this Its a big claim to make every opinion polls Quite sure without globalization and migration you dont have the powerhouse that is EU and USA Most people dont even understand the benefits of globalization and migration brings to them but they often see the negativity instead|0 Think about the small towns he will stop at to use the gas station bathroom grab a bite to eat Hopefully he is not an asymptomatic super spreader|0 Different jobs Id wager whatever GPU you have assuming you have one could handle floating point operations better than your CPU|1 Maybe Ill get downvoted for this but IMO I think you can still do some of these things if you do them safely For example if you have to fly somewhere take the necessary precautions wear a mask wipe down and sanitize your whole seat area frequently sanitize your hands in the airport hand sanitizer stations are everywhere now so this one is easy The real issue arises when people do these things and also dont take any precautions that help prevent them from either contracting the virus or spreading it unknowingly to others|1 Good news But the highest risk for India may well be overland via Thailand Burma and then Bangladesh Thailand has the second highest number of cases outside of Singapore and Japan It is also not as developed as those countries|1 No the comment below assumed the guy on reddit is the same as the one in the article Also HK is not closing the border on China last time I heard|0 Excellent and detailed update please keep them coming|1 httpsdiscordggnpDgsnPJoin our discord Its small right now but we hope to get people from all around the word and share what its like in their hometown|1 You can probably trust those are the numbers based on testing Unfortunately they arent testing a lot of people|1 It will be tremendously beautiful|1 When Azar the head of HHS says we have more tests than orders for them why would we still limit testing Our whole approach seems odd if not incompetent|1 Worlds gone mad|0 wtf Was this all in Wuhan|0 I understand why they only test people that were in risk destinations because they cant test everyone with a cold or griepje 60 persons is less than I expected though Because its quite easy to test if someone is positive for Corona|1 Im still suspect as to whether or not this effects oriental people more than anyone else So far its looking that way|0 Everyone likes to give California shit for being so progressive but times like this are when progressivism is most beneficial Its all about creating a safety net for everyone with the belief that happiness health and productivity are all inextricably tied together The happier and healthier they are the more productive the more productive and happy they are the healthier and the healthier they are the more productive and happy theyll be If its done carefully it should create less burden on an economy|1 For everyone who is saying ohhhh this doesnt count because they just look like they have it they havent been confirmed what the hell is your response to the deaths being almost 25 times the amount it was normally having|0 Pathetic|0 Yes definitely saw this I wonder if anybody got tested for this to see if it was another flu strain|1 Casefatalityrate and infectionfatalityrate are not the same thing If the confirmed CFR is 34 the IFR is probably under 1 Think of all of the people who dont even know they have it because of lack of symptoms or mild coldlike symptomshttpsslatecomtechnology202003coronavirusmortalityratelowerthanwethinkhtmlviarecircengaged|0 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Because there was a panic and everyone went to the hospital at the same time|0 Hmmm so is that a no on frenchkissing your homies|0 I hate most things he does but I believe he is trying to save the USs economy from turmoil and panic by just outright lying The US government doesnt have too many cards to play here now that people have true fear sinking in in the past 12 hours|0 There hasnt been a single virus that has caused so much alarm since the Spanish Flu of 1918 and were filling the same blueprint Governments dont put 750M people into quarantine shut down industry and chance setting their economy back to the 1980s for the flu Oh yeaItaly has quarantined 12 million until April 3rd Its just the flu bro|0 Yes they cant actually force anyone to do anything so theyre appealing to peoples common sense until laws are passed|1 It is so sad how easily manipulated the population is|0 Certainly But thats the point isnt it to make sure that theres enough beds to cover peaks in order to mitigate overflow morbidity and mortality|1 Well that makes things a little more difficult|0 People in the US would just steal that shit |0 Id say watch it again take the riskI watched it once on 0 hours of sleep and that fingernail scene has stuck with me ever since Ugh|0 Nope you would get unemployment|0 I stop work and my family starves Ill stop work if you donate money to my kids|0 I dont know what to say I ache for Italy in an existential way Stay safe|1 You gan stable condoms packd without hitting the condom though But it breaks the seal|1 Thats not going to cut it Like using plastic kindergarten scissors on sheet metalDoes not apply to businesses or schoolsTake a look at hope other countries have copied with this and whats worked Stay the fuck at home Good luck people of the USA|1 Fuck Im doomed|0 Meanwhile Canada is sitting back and relaxing oh if anyone feels too ill theyll come and tell us|1 I know that everyone here says that they should test more people but you guys really dont know how much it costs to make the reagents and ship them out In terms of both serology and PCR they need to cultivated and purify the regents which takes a bit of time and expertise to do Lets just say that if China or any country decides to test every single one of their citizens it would quickly bankrupt the entire country I believe the best method is what China is doing now quarantine the general populace and trying to find sources of infections are crucial to treating the problemPlease dont misread my comment Im not prochina freehongkong but you guys have to realize that things arent as simple as just testing everyone Here is an example of how much a test kit could cost herehttpswwwthermofishercomordercatalogproduct44274094427409And the funny part is that this to me is considered cheap af considering custom lab regents could run higher depending on your relationship with a provider|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 It could be true With the way NFL teams demand cities to build stadiums for them NBA could demand first preference for vaccines|1 Do you have any links to communications on RBC or other companies on Bay promoting remote work I cant seem to find anything online Thanks|1 Sweet summer child supply lines are fragile things Food is already running out faster than it can be restocked in certain areas And this is just the beginning Dont stock up on food at your own peril|1 Yes I dont blame her but it is annoyingEspecially since that girl has some lungs on her Shell keep it up twice a minute for 5 rounds|1 4 reasons1 It wasnt really a pandemic yet There were some regional clusters but it could have been quarantined a la SARS However most people are in denial and think its the flu so didnt care2 To ensure people still continue containing rather than moving to mitigation phase Weve just moved from lets quarantine everyone to sorry its too late just dont get sick phase Its going to cause governments to stop quarantines and change their protocols3 Stock markets are going to tank as investor confidence is dropping4 Avoid a recession Announcing a pandemic will scare people and reduce even more buying activity reducing money flow and resulting in tons of layoffs|0 Excuse me what|1 Local resident here I anticipated it would be bad so I did our usual weekend groceries last night at Safeway It wasnt that busy at 9pm but you could tell there had been a run earlier Low on several items but really only cleaned out of water TP and cleaning supplies The cashier said it was worse than thanksgiving|0 We actually just moved ours from April 25th to September 12th yesterday Luckily we were able to keep all our vendors We just have to redo our invites|1 While I agree that death rate under 40 in Italy currently appears to be 02 Im pretty sure saying that means there is a 1 in 2000 chance is not how math works|1 People cant do this we live in a society that doesnt allow for it My work has the you should be at work unless youre so sick you physically cant get out of bed mentalityx200BOSHA should really put out emergency guidelines to make employers legally follow and you could also pass a federal mandate from the Department of Health to some how allow for increased sick time coverage to pay for at least some of the employees normal salary during outage due to the this virusx200BIm a hardcore Conservative but i understand that to win this it is going to take money or lack there of it People need to put the thought of the almighty dollar aside for this one And im not talking about the employee|0 Who pays these people if theyre out of work for a long time In a capitalist economy how is it sustainable if people dont want to spend the money or simply dont have it anymore The poor will get screwed and there would be a major recession|0 Was not aware of this thanks|1 to be fair spending a few days to talk and rationalize it makes it not a kneejerk reaction We shouldnt automatically be doing it because the US does we need to consider what is best for our country independently|1 Madagascar is one of the few places the literal Bubonic plague was found in the past few years Bad choice mate|0 Probably has English as a second language you numbskull|0 We get it you hate catholicism or religion or whatever but your hate has blinded you to the point where youre making fake biased claims and making editorialized titles If anything youre just adding to the panic and hysteriaMasses remain suspended through April 3 churches would remain closed to tourists could reopen as long as measures were taken to ensure no one risked spreading or contracting the virus|0 Yes but you get 100 freedom s|1 Were eating fresh food Youre eating canned meat|1 Yep Them and everyone else Scary innit|0 You missed the point but whatever enjoy your day|1 None of this means anything if healthcare systems collapse right now a lot depends on if china can keep caring for the 115k serious critical cases or if they run out of ability to care for them causing more of them to die than would otherwise with top line care|1 The EU doesnt stop extra measures from being taken it only gives minimum goals and the UK never participated in most of those anyway If the EU says ban chemical Y because its dangerous that doesnt mean you cant ban chemical Z too|0 Not a truck driver but I do Uber I have no choice I have to work to provide for my family I have already noticed that my pay has dropped off about 20 Luckily for me I havent picked up anybody that has been coughing|1 Ive been watching every pandemic movie I can find and the one that surprised me the most bc of its eerie accuracy is Fatal Contact Bird Flu in America The government even tries to dissuade people from buying masks bc theres a shortageIts free on YouTube|0 Great work Signed and shared|1 my dad did the exact same thing with my mom she sanitized her whole cart every product she was buying and her hands and he made fun of her can confirm hes SUPER insecure|1 I think the issue were seeing right now is that we live in a loanbased economy Its the Keynesian economic philosophy of keeping the money moving The bubble all these low interest loans and credit cards have created was already primed for disaster All it needed was something like this pandemic to pop it The 40 of Americans struggling the most are propping up the entire economy and dont even know it To make matters worse just like 2008 all these risky loans are being packaged and sold off to investors multiple times over further multiplying the problem Hundreds of Billionaire Playboys are getting orders of magnitude richer off this economy where we need their loans for survival Id raise the point that clearly our current economic system has reached the type of breaking point where loans and welfare are no longer going to solve our problems Friedman might agree shifting from welfare to a UBI based safety net probably would make sense in our current situation I want to emphasize that I agree it should replace welfare entirely but an optin model might be the only option that makes it past Democrats Also Yang proposed a valueadded tax instead of a reverse income tax and his math seems really solid on it Idk if that makes any difference to you lol I think we both can agree if our economy was actually an Austrian philosophy free market most people would have enough money in their savings accounts to make it through a simple 4 week quarantine AMIRIGHT|1 1 Yes and its because brittish slang is weird Tadger is Scottish for penis and the brittish word is a mutation of that term2 It was dead And by no reports did he actually cum|0 Mem386exe wow 12 year old me just smiled at this|1 People arent buying guns so that they wont have to quarantine Youre seriously out of touch if you think most gun owners would even bother threatening a law enforcement or military member This whole comment actually just reeks of you being out of touch and you clearly dont actually live in the USAlso Im sick of people using one of the more impactful pandemics the world has seen in modern times to talk about the healthcare system No healthcare system will handle a pandemic Thats not what its designed for Not a single healthcare system in this world will be sufficient if the virus takes a major hold in that country So stop talking about it like it has any relevanceYou act like people are ONLY dumb and selfish in America which is just ignorant as fuck stereotypical and Im not even going to bother anymore with thatAlso Americans drink less than EuropeansPlenty of other countries in the world in fact Id say a majority have incompetent governments or at least corrupt governmentsThe US also has a ton of advantages compared to other countries such as a more spread out population Less dense cities More rural areaSo as nice as I can say this fuck off with your bullshit comment because its completely wrong and youve just pissed me off|0 Sooo much misinformation being spread around I really dont know what to believe I wish I could just stay home until this all passes|1 It scares the hell out of me that western MSM quotes numbers directives and talking points from WHO Thats really messed up WHO was clearly bought and paid for a long time ago|0 Prob had to fluff him up by saying hed save the US from China virus|1 Not the brightest people But they will know when they all enter the hospital at the same time and some cant be helped|0 Precisely its 2 untill It isnt and people are dead in the streets|0 Still these two particular sectors should be reformed Not for all the system to fall down Capitalism is still much better than socialism Todays capitalism is where huge companies dominate Capitalism wasnt only like that Multinationals should be put to control in order not to have political and social influence but only to make the economy better through their activities|1 Deleting search history helps because when you search the site that you saw the news appears and reminds you about everything For reddit its a bit harder Just remember to avoid the comment section and most of the people who post on it are unreliable and are only stating things that will get lots of karma Take the comments with a grain of salt This is not a guarantee fix but it personally helps me in times of stress Sometimes even memes about the events help me Although it sounds bad humor is a great stress reliever for me When you get the temptation force yourself to not look I say 12 articles a day is healthy cause you need to stay updated but anymore is too much cause it can make you want to keep reading|1 Im doing the same thing with my grown nurse practitioner daughterDidnt allow her here for my birthdayMy husband and I are on lockdownit includes everyone|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rleopardsatemyface Who would have guessed it Obviously not an expert in infectious diseasehttpswwwredditcomrLeopardsAteMyFacecommentsfgmltgwhowouldhaveguesseditobviouslynotanexpert rprofessors Director of Infectious Disease program in Italy refused to cancel or change exams and SURPRISE hes infected with COVID19httpswwwredditcomrProfessorscommentsffzyptdirectorofinfectiousdiseaseprograminitalynbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Is it paranoia and speculation to point out that using the naive CFR without explaining what you have done and then making conclusions about the severity of the disease is misleading and bad science|0 Holy crap good luck Im pulling for you and staying home and washing my hands for you too|1 By delegating testing to the states and hospitals how the fuck is the CDC going to trace people Test trace isolate USA havent been able to do any of those yet|0 To be clear this is the CHINESE Red Cross IN CHINA not the Red Cross in other countries who for the most part have a good reputation|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 The only difference since then is climate change They rebounded because the Earth was livable and had resources for everyone We might not recover from this like our ancestors but this virus is certainly not the end yet|1 The current policy will fail to smooth the spike in cases and cause the UCUs to close and leave a clearly identifiable segment of society vulnerable to this Enforcing quarantine for hotspot arrivals closing schools and large gatherings will slow the spread allow more time for antiviral vaccine ppe and medical preparation The lessons of a hundred years ago are not hard to understand or follow httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle208354There were 115340 excess pneumonia and influenza deaths EDR 500100000 population in the 43 cities during the 24 weeks analyzed Every city adopted at least 1 of the 3 major categories of nonpharmaceutical interventions School closure and public gathering bans activated concurrently represented the most common combination implemented in 34 cities 79 this combination had a median duration of 4 weeks range 110 weeks and was significantly associated with reductions in weekly EDR The cities that implemented nonpharmaceutical interventions earlier had greater delays in reaching peak mortality Spearmanr074P001 lower peak mortality rates Spearmanr031P02 and lower total mortality Spearmanr037P008 There was a statistically significant association between increased duration of nonpharmaceutical interventions and a reduced total mortality burden Spearmanr039P005|0 This is all medias faultTheyve exaggerated SARS H5N1 Swine Flu and especially EbolaTheyve cried wolf too many times people have gotten desensitized I really dont blame them|0 Wow that was 9 years ago|1 I agree we should have been overly aggressive when this first happened I have been watching this since the beginning I have a degree in microbiology and immunology We should have taken the steps then What this really come down to is money stock markets etc We could have prevented this from the US but we did nothing There is not stopping it now We can help others with social distancing and also masks if you are sick This is not the flu this is a dry cough that targets the lungs|1 This fucking subreddit needs to be banned Everyone wants to be in a panic here This is not a healthy environment for people who want accurate realistic information about COVID19|0 Yes but we also gain others we wouldnt have known about before|1 Some will Im in Texas and I cant predict what our crazy people will decide They dont have a clue I suspect some parents will just keep their kids home at least the young ones|0 Thanks So it would basically have to be 3 Japanese the 4 Filipinos and the 3 HKers to be all 10 serious cases to maintain this it only happens to Asians facade|1 I wish diabetes could be differentiated between type 1 and type 2|1 WHO has been assessing this outbreak around the clock and we are deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity and by the alarming levels of inaction|0 Yes i think so|1 Oh right apologies I remember its leaning one side but I got it mixed up Thanks for the clarification|1 someday well learn how FLU is connected to EMFbut alasmust suffer firstYou can learn now if you go through some of what I just recommended|0 It can be punishable by death if you pull some shit like that in China|0 Ah will this snopes misinformation never die The team wasnt fired but moved to another department|1 Dont forget garbage They may become a disaster|0 My SO is cdl B w hazmat and mentioned this the other day He stays local delivers oil but regardless all federal regulations are waived I feel terrible for the long haul guys that arent able to stop for food or at rest stops because everything is closing|0 That although expensive would actually serve some good to a huge number of families A onetime 1K meh|1 The second wave started piling up before that and coincided with troop demobilizations Still many deaths through the summer monthsAmerica was also far more agrarian and people dispersed to farms during summer months Thats why America has a long summer break To help with harvests|1 Thats not good news One couple with the cash to do this just shows the absolutely hilarious wealth disparity in the united states Its mental|1 I live in Vegas I rented 1 of my rooms to a couple for some extra cash only 3 months left on lease They decided to go to Seattle for a week they wont quarantine for 14 days when they return outside of house You want to talk selfish On top of that they wanted me to prorate their rent since they will not be here for the entire month|0 Gotta love how one random doctors opinion makes world front page news now Im not saying hes wrong its just that journalism is in a sad state these days The extreme opinions on any direction is the news|1 A croatian got infected on a football match on Milan italy there were 45k ppl on that match|0 Even when US schools were wellfunded they didnt teach critical thinking They are about making kids compliant followers of authority for the work force|1 People have been saying that li keqiang and his reformist liberal faction would take over ifwhen xi goes down That would be a vast improvement already even if the cpc survives and holds on to power|1 Think about the downsizing that could happen though Rent becomes too high many people will move to cheaper areas Youll be fine|1 Old filters tend to have loose asbestos chromium and lead paint chips|0 Me too First one was a username I use most everywhere else Decided not here Second I forgot my pass and no registered email Then this one however many years ago it is now|0 People be bitching about China locking down entire province to keep this from spreading to the world Meanwhile France be like nothing to see here|1 I hope he gets coughed on |1 Youre an idiotThat claim might be trueMy skin is the colour greenThat claim might be true tooWere doing science guys|1 TBH I wish theyd enact an immediate two week quarantine the way China did Id rather that than witness the fallout of an uncontrolled outbreak|1 Die being the horrifyingly operative word Stay safe Chinese bros|0 Crackpot theory NCOVID19 is already here in America but in a mutated less virulent formhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf83qtawhatifcurrentusafluisactuallycoronavirushttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf83qtawhatifcurrentusafluisactuallycoronavirus|0 Amen And tests accessible at every corner if you just need peace of mind for the day|1 Doesnt matter Past a threshold you just assume everyone who is sick has it Testing is irrelevant|0 I know right Different people having different opinions based on different issues Its like Joseph Goebbels MySpace page up in here|1 Montgomery county Texas It hasnt sunken in yet Its a war between its the flu H1n1 didnt stop the world people and the staythefuckhome people Grocery stores all altered hours and placed limits on purchases I had to inform most people I know that there was even an address yesterday at all and one friend still didnt know hardly anything about the virus The word is not getting out A friend sent me a text this morning a friend of their family works for the fire department had been on 3 coronavirus calls this morning alone and they are all now suited up haz mat a little late of you ask me First cv case to go critical is still critical as far as we know News seems to be lacking In details and swiftness My family is sequestered at home for 2nd week Some other families I know have finally committed to staying home as a family I hope it wasnt too late for them Some just had to squeak in that final show they had tickets for Im seeing a lot of condescending talk down from those who dont believe this is a big deal|1 Was she an andrew yang supporter He would have got her back|1 No do not bring the mods into this A lot of shit us going down with that right now just a warning|0 Theyre not coming to pay 500 for an ambulance ride thoughIf you want to delude yourself into thinking that all the insurance payments superior care then so be it but the rest of the world and their Commie free healthcare systems frequently outperform the US model|1 They have to deal with disasters a lot more than Americans They know to take it seriously|0 Even if you have to put it off a year go next year its amazing|1 Im the town over Very scared|0 White House is telling them the threat is to older and sick people so|0 Meanwhile South Korea has tested over 120000 people and had drive thru testing But no The US cant use a Communist test kit or whatever fucking excuse they have|0 Yeah trump didnt sound too good at his press conference yesterday If he hasgets it I bet hell try to keep that info classified|0 Six weeks of under the radar transmission is pretty much the definition of secret spread httpsmobiletwittercomtrvrbstatus1233970271318503426 But hey its only twitter I guess this doesnt qualify for dramatically out of line either|1 This feels like it should be a post of its own unless I overlooked a comment hereBut great statement very well said I certainly dont have your credentials I at one point was delving into majoring in biology with an interest in primatology but I never cared for micro haha but I think I share a similar mindset Im not panicking and I take conspiracy theories with several large grains of salt fascinating though they are but I dont for a second believe were getting accurate information and cover ups are clearly happeningI hate sounding alarmist and Im not overly so about the virusbut what gets me fired up and the most concerned is the fucking humanitarian crisis The way China treats is people isnt new information but this is bringing it front and center on a global scale And damned if I dont genuinely care about what happens to these people who are brave enough to risk their lives to share more accurate and telling information with the worldIm gonna follow you though uviv66stix Sounds like your posts and comments on the subject could be interesting and informative|1 Sorry to say but the current data has Canada on a trajectory on par or just slightly worse than Italy No surprise considering how long the borders were left open|0 My god|1 I want to beleive this too but I dont The powersthatbe want to protect against civil unrest and economic slowdown shutdown until if and when there are major outbreaks in major population centers Until that point we will not hear much except the minimum bs reporting we are getting from MSM now I am in the greater nyc area and for the life of me cannot believe there are zero confirmed cases here as of yet I hope it stays that way But it doesnt add up given the large number of chinese people that live in flushing queens south brooklyn Chinatown etc Out of that group how many have visited china since november and out of that group how many were in Hubei before air passenger screening began To note there are many cases of people who were screened later got sick tested negative then tested positive This coupled with anecdotal reports of person to person transfer that have been confirmed Japanese cab driver cluster UK citizen infected in Singapore transfers virus via hotel room in the alps Heck at this point it has been weeks months If this virus is as contagious as some say it should def be in major western cities by now If in a few weeks we do not see infections popping up I will be very relieved buy shocked Keeping in mind I am a layman and not an expert by any means But this path of reasoning does not lead anywhere good|0 It hit home when I saw the preexisting conditions Im going to get it Theres no way I cant The sooner a vaccine comes out the better I dont want to die|1 Wrong Cruz|0 Yes thats exactly what we need to do Lock down everything until its over otherwise its going to be hell|0 Youre welcome Glad to hear youve come to a similar result|1 Whats wrong dont you trust our office of the President|0 shit on china if u like but if it originated in the us it would have been 10x worse|0 Yeah I am on vacation in Europe but am so wrapped up in this|1 False The boiling points are close enough that you cant separate methanol from ethanol by heating Thats the point of denatured alcohol theres no way to make it safe to consumeIf people try what you suggested they will be poisoned|0 Yeah I cant find other articles to support it|1 Where is Mark Wahlberg to save us|1 GTX 970 reporting in fit and ready with 16gb RAM Bring it on |1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The even greater irony is if like me you predominantly own vtsax youre holding more Microsoft than Alphabet as well lol|1 You seem pretty confident in your assessment considering that what you just described as nearly impossible is being done at this very moment in China for hundreds of millions of people|1 Oh cmon Have you seen how competitive people are in India and other Asian countries This stereotype about the US is insane this issue is everywhere|0 Iran has a death sentence on this same exact thing|0 Im a little annoyed it took multiple US deaths for people to start paying attention We had over a months warning and it feels like nothing was done to prepare for an outbreak|0 So based off of this do you think going to the CVS drivethrough pharmacy is OK I was thinking of just cracking the window to talk and then taking the prescription with disposable gloves I live with people in the highrisk bracket 60 years old one person with COPD Its been so hard to figure out how to navigate everyday activities I would rather not wait for mail order if possible but I dunno|1 Thats really good advice|1 Im saying that well see a net gain of 1500 cases tomorrow not that 6000 more will be reported if thats what youre asking|1 Im technically obese but just barely Im in the middle of a weight loss journey I was heavier at the beginning of the year I would have given up but the health benefits of sticking to a regimen have helped keep me on the path I wasnt just overweight I also kept getting respiratory infections These are the things you need to right now to protect your immune system 1 Adopt a healthier diet asap Do not do a crash diet because that will comprise your health 2 Stop ingesting anything that causes insulin spikessweets alcohol and white carbs Sugar and white carbs depress your immune system for several hours This is a hard one for so many people because having a treat or a drink relieves stress3 Start doing exercisefor you Even if you are quarantined right now there are so many programs available for free online If you have limited internet access download or print out a few routines and get with it4 Shed stress Meditate Dance to music Get into a hobby Watch comedies or things that are inspiring Lean in on your faith Do what you need to do to get rid of that cortisol 5 Make sleep a priority Sleep is repairmode for us mortals My bloodwork and blood pressure have always checked out fine but this pandemic has been a wakeup call for me I adopted healthier practices at the beginning of the year before this all became serious Normally I would have given up but its more important now than ever to look after yourself|1 Im not sure our public is so far unfortunately and that matters more than the government response Hong Kong did well because people did the things they remembered doing when they dealt with SARS|0 Yeah m8 no Im not Out rossman and Edeka has hand sanitizer tho I heard other areas like PEP and Olympia Einkaufszentrum are sold out and know for a fact that in Marienplatz they see sold out This only refers to noodles and toilet paper and flour and household cleansing items btw Everything else is in stock but there is an absolute shortage of the above mentioned Because of Hamster shopping sprees Its even on the news here |1 Oh wow it looks like they did and all their posts The posters elderly parents are going on a skiing trip to Italy and they were asking about and trying to explain how it was just a flu and they know the risks and how his parents wont quarantine themselves when they return because its not a big deal|1 China is the new America Nobody noticed but they were also first to ground the Boeing 737 MAX because their Aviation Safety Authority were best They show competence and responsibility now I hope Europe can show leadership in the place left by the USA Or at least it would be nice if China could be a democracy in the next years|1 I need to figure out how to do this lol|1 I live in Maryland too and my school is already preparing for mandatory shutdown|1 I dont know about all this But I got word form a friend who works with a WA rep that there ARE talks of a curfew being put into place in western Washington and mandatory closingremoting of businesses|1 Trudeau dare not ever ban flights from his Chinese overlords|1 SPS system said schools are gonna be fine lmao|1 More lies from the Trump crime syndicate When will people get enough of these lies|0 Turkey has theirs down to 75 minutes for a result Yes minutes Down from their old model tests which gave results back in 90 minutes US still requires 5 to 7 days for results One of these days our poor indie country will catch up to that hyper advanced and ludicrously filthy rich Turkish civilization|1 There is no point in overreacting because either it can be contained or it cant|0 I ask because Im seeing all these celebrities with covid19 But Im wondering if they are being tested just because they have money or are most showing symptoms or have they traveled with other people who tested positive Or are they just getting tested because they are paying for it I saw they wouldnt test Heidi Klum So is it a money thing are they really just getting as sick as your average person It seems the virus is affecting the affluent more then regular people|1 A few thousand cases in a country the size of the US would be completely unnoticeable Doubling time on this thing from the exChina data seems to be less than a week Even a fastspreading disease still takes timeI actually think we may make it to April before this thing gets to the holy fuck stage If it slows down at that point well probably come through short of the worstcase scenarios|0 Thats exactly what they want and why they would give the stimulus They want people to go buy useless crap or stonks|0 The hero we need but dont deserve|1 Although when you consider its likely been widespread since November and started in October in ChinaThis was out of the can before we even knewWhat is China allowing us to see Just a few snippets of them doing well in a Chernobyl style Reality|1 1568 death rate for that group unless I have my math wrong|0 God Ive given up on warning people about this Since Januray Ive been warning people but Ive been laughed at yelled at by my professors for fear mongering and been told Im blowing things out of proportion Nobody would listen to me about the economic impact the loss of life and the overall suck this thing would cause Now we have this flaming bag of shit ON OUR DOORSTEP and people CONTINUE to stomp on itIm truly disappointed in our government and our culture We had every opportunity to prepare but people completely brushed this off as The flu I dread what one month from now will look like|0 Im really tired of the politicization of this situation but I think you can guess where my Dad gets his news|0 Honestly I think a huge outbreak would be good for google and Facebook People would be in mandatory quarantine spending more time on the internet|1 that they got bad info muh credibility its in shambleswhats interesting is a third person i was messaging on reddit confirmed my sources so i genuinely do not know whats upi will say that the topic of martial law keeps getting brought up in press conferences and tweets im still pretty sure the government is just gonna slow walk us into it|1 Diversity is our greatest strength|1 They cant blame budget cuts if their budget was never cut|1 Nice|1 Avoid political discussions applies to political comments that are not on the topic of 2019nCoV It does not apply to criticism of governments or anything that is not political in nature|1 Thats great China have set the example on how to beat this Now the rest of the world need to learn from their mistakes and be more proactive to beat the virus in their part of the world|1 Recommends|1 Needed the laugh Thanks |1 Why you even asking xD even if they were on which they are not you shouldnt go for safety reasons|1 How has the game improved since 2016 Thinking of buying a smart phone and data plan just to start walking again|1 Could not happen to a better state Interesting how god works|1 Why do we not have better information about some basic questions everyone has1 does recovering from covid19 confer immunity at least until the virus mutates2 are asymptomatic patients infectious Ive read conflicting reports and having a reliable source for this is important 3 does heat kill coronavirus This seems like a simple piece of research that would be beneficial and assuage a lot of fears As we approach spring on the west coast the temperature in cars is getting over 90F As it gets even warmer it would be great to know if heat kills the virus People can park in the sun to kill coronavirus in their cars and leave the AC off during the day or all day as summer hits to kill coronavirus|0 I dunno but check out the revised mortality rate just released for COVID19 its much more deadly than the fluPeople with heart disease compromised immune system hypertension are also at greater risk its not just old people that are going to die But thanks for your ignorant smart ass comment|0 Maybe they werent in demand until right now And if its an injection molded part maybe they have had to remake the mold tooling which can take 812 weeksBut even still if a hospital needed that part to save lives they could get it from a 3d print shop as happened in this article Im guessing it was a lack of planning for such an event combined with poor communication to suppliers Or poor managementThe availability of a spare 3d printer isnt what stopped them from having the part in the first place Good on them for using the tools they had on hand but it isnt a lack of manufacturing capability that prevented them from having the part|0 theres already proof that they work like 3040 but overall wearing a mask will have people stay away from you that adds a huge number in percentage|1 I think this guy can call trump a maron and trump would have no balls to fire him Trump no matter how moronic knows he better not fuck up the spreading of the virus Stock market he can manipulate by tweeting and forcing the feds to print money This he knows is way over his head I could be wrong|0 Im not endorsing the bio weapon theory at all but intentionality does not factor into if its a weapon or not If you accidentally drop a nuke on a city you still nuked a city and it was still a weapon Even if it were accidentally released from the lab it would still be a bio weapon|0 So an R0 of 4 means that on average an infected person infects 4 more people But the R0 is different in every country it depends on how densely populated it is hygiene public transport etcThe R0 of the virus can be lowered by us by banning public gatherings or even quarantine If the R0 drops bellow 1 the virus will die on its own over time|0 Trump fired the zombie apocalypse team They were ready 2 years ago but then they all got sacked|0 Thank you This almost brought tears to my eyes Ive been in so much anxiety lately Its so hard to feel like things are so out of control|1 you cant say the virus has a 67 casualty rate from these numbers its AT MOST 67 There are many cases that go by unnoticed that dont go into the total confirmed numbers while we probably notice almost all deaths|0 No Lublin It may be the same in other cities but Im only 100 sure about Lublin|1 No you and all of the other edgy teenagers are saying how excited you all are|1 Guys be careful of what you post on your status and social mediabecause I dont really understand what people are saying concerning this virus of a thing as if is a joke|1 Honestly as far as new decades go this one has been ramped up to 11 on the interesting excitement scale since the fireworks stopped|1 If youre smart enough to request a test you obviously cant have it|1 As an Italian guy I can assure that hearing Contes words live gave me some chills I know is not relatable Ive also heard on the news when people in Wuhan were not allowed to get out of their homes anymore and that didnt really bother me but living it in first person is a lot different I hope no other country in the world will need this type of lockdown I also think that if it reaches widespread in countries with no universal healthcare it will cause big problems|0 Yeah we postponed yesterday We were supposed to get married on Friday but our venue called to reschedule us until September Hopefully itll die down by then We still have our appointment tomorrow to get a marriage license so hopefully that is still open so we can still get married on Friday|1 Holy shit|0 What does blow it meanSpend it on food Beer Who the fuck cares We live in this country where we love the idea of freedom so much But yet people cant be entrusted somehow to manage 1000 landing in their checking accounts Insane|1 Nah they are still pretty loud in Canada|1 Im feeling exhausted too Im glad we have the space to vent about this because many people I know personally arent aware of whats going on Its even more exhausting when youre being dismissed for valid concerns COVID is a very serious problem and its valid and sensible to change our lifestyles according to the advice of professionals and be well informed However stress doesnt help it compromises our immune systems and it can be harder to come up with logical pragmatic plans when were in fight or flight mode Taking breaks from reading news about the virus is necessary its also important to focus on your diet exercise and sleep patterns People with a history of generalised anxiety disorder OCD and health anxiety are particularly at risk at this time as are health professionals and those who are high riskhave high risk family members Many people will experience anxiety related to the virus and while most will be able to deal with it in their own way there is no shame in seeking professional help This link httpscheckpointorgcomglobal may help you find resources if needed and let us know if youd like some help finding resources more specific to your location rCOVID19support is worth checking out too|0 Thats sad manyou wanna see it 10 fold up read Vietnamese or Thailand comments on BBC and facebookThey are litterly wishing harm to others while They have no problems and apparently a CureReal talk flat Earthers always confused me the world is roundish and there is so much proof its insane to think its flatyet they doCV is out and about global problems deaths etc and people are just like what your comments are sayingx200BIgnorance is bliss and the masses of morons are truly shinning in this momentits sadStay safe over there in Canadawish yall the best|0 stay safe hermanos learn from us take your personal hygiene up a notch wash your hands properly and do not go to crowded places avoid trips if not for business or work change habits prepare to stay home for a bit dont crowd grocery stores because youre doing exactly what does not need to be done crowding and staying close to each otherthe point is to contain the spreading to avoid overloading the hospitals|0 People should be punished for this behavior Fines to start and jail time if needed|0 4 out of 5 Americans would be absolutely outraged about how they were being persecuted if quarantined|0 Incidentally my PCP I know more about him than an average patient because we also do work professionally is a total Trumper and hes even been downplaying this shit I am talking about an incredibly experienced DO who runs a family practicesports rehab facility In what I have encountered it is solidly along party lines The only what I would consider true Libertarian amongst the couple I know is taking this matter very seriously Even another person I know who finally had Trumpgret is still in his corner on this issue|1 Its been a trip seeing Sean Hannity go from completely dismissive of this to acting like he always thought it was serious|1 There was a same case in Sichuan The good news is that that man has antibodies and no virus in his lung Bad news is that still some virus in his shit|0 Sound On mobile no sound|0 So playing the idiot card with if its just a bit worse than the normal flu why do they do X Like everyone know now that it is way worse than the normal flu Saying this really doesnt help your point|0 How fucking hard can it be to set up a production of n95s or at least some more simple surgical masks Enforcing wear would at least prevent some spread from sick people Im sure the American Machine would be able to get this going in less than a week if they were willing to be proactive|1 Im on medicaid and honestly its fucking awesome I dont pay for meds or doctor visits or ambulance rides or hospital staysDont see why literally everyone shouldnt have that|1 I agree that it will be postponed Japan has invested a lot in developing the infrastructure I dont think Japan is lying about its infection rate Korea unfortunately had Auntie who refused testing I have enough confidence in Japan that I am allowing my daughter to go on student exchange later this year for 5 months|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Yup lucky ones were the ones that got the order before CNY All about planning|1 What if Im one of the people expected to be working during all of this Hard to practice social distancing when my job is in food service We had an enormous line today I cant quit and calling off for the next several weeks would be basically the same thing Im wondering if I can make money from home Ive sold my music before but Im assuming this isnt the best market for that|0 this Tony Stark larper and realise hes no different than most other billionairesDude put his own car in orbit around the sun with his own rocket and has the largest satellite constellation ever last I looked he owned 54 of SpaceX|0 Yeah and its long past the incubation period if they were infected|0 I went grocery shopping today and I regret wearing no mask The more I read about the virus the more I want to stay home and never go near people|0 The fact that its spreading quite happily in relatively balmy northern Italy suggests that heat does not stop the coronavirus|1 Every illness that mainly affects old people also sometimes kills young healthy people Drawing a conclusion from one persons death just means that you want to overreact|0 Concerned but in a sort of jovial way here in the greater Toledo area People are stocking up police are at most major supermarkets when they open but no one is shoving or pushing probably because everyone is strapped But aside from the lack of stuff on shelves everything seems pretty calm People realize its a big deal and are staying inside from what I can see aside from essential personnel We only have one confirmed in this county however Ill let you know in two weeks|1 Yes and it really hurts Honestly its harder for me to deal with losing work than it is the virus Im really stressed out about it|0 As a young diabetic I really dont know how to feel about this Im hoping to come out unscathed|1 Umm in context of current events I dont think a data breach is really the top of the concern list|1 Figure this out httpswwwbusinessinsidercomtrumpgagstopuscoronavirusofficialhistorycensoringscience20202This is shit China does not America wake up|0 Pandemic or not the safest place for you in Broward County is always the inside of your house Words to live by|0 I think it has more to do with how should I put this delicately oh yeah they actually give a fuck about the wellness of their citizens|1 I never considered how efficient a vector that is|0 ThisTrump ran on winning or at least winning by stopping the fear of the plot When he loses a particular circumstance where theres no clear winner he turns it into a perception of a win We may not have passed the bill we wanted but at least we stopped the corrupt Democratic hoax But of course he had to get rid of the admittance of loss so he simply saysWe brought light to the Democratic hoaxAfter allI think what most liberals are missing is that this isnt about right and wrong its about winning and losing Ive attached my entire worldview to this man and I am going down with the ship Not one of you is going to convince me otherwisehttpswwwredditcomrasktrumpsupporterscommentsdct1bef2bdtz3|0 Im learning JavaScript now using Khan Academy Not going to lie Im a little excited that I can work on it more and dive into the 40 or so hours of teaching material they have available|1 Or better yet all 3 of those solutions could be used|1 edit To the OP sorry to jack your thread this has nothing to do with coronavirus Italy or the Chinese Red Cross We sort of thought we could just get this off our chests enjoy the catharsis and watch the comments languish at the bottom of the page Glad people like hearing the tales and we hope it moves you to be more helpful in your day to day |1 Do we yet know How likely is it for someone to be infected via delivery of items to the home ie food boxes mail etc Lets say the delivery driver is sickcontagious or someone else down the line who handled the items especially food was sick is this something the average person should be worried about Do I need to sanitize boxes What about consuming food Its great that restaurants are delivering more and more but should this cause concern|0 I am interested to see what stimulus ideas he has for the economy I saw a few floated earlier this week that seemed resonable|1 this is inevitable thats just how human minds work you dont think a big danger approaching you is real untile that big danger hits you hardchina did itwe did itthe rest of europe did itits the same reason climate change cannot be stoppedeveryone will halt the virus exponential growth sooner or later the means to do it will be always the same keep people shut in their homes and make them used to wear a mask and keep themselves distant in public for the next year until a vaccine is foundkorean and japan managed things much better but the end result the same as the rest of the world economy halted then slowed down people learning very strict public hygien norms and no country was gonna shut down just as soon a little infection cluster had been found anyway|1 what is your opinion that SARSNCov2 in South America could infect a bat mutate to a deadlier strain and make it way back to humans|0 If they cant stay in business because the government isnt giving them handouts well then they deserve to go out of businessDING DING DING paging rselfawarewolvesCorporate welfare is bullshit and shouldnt exist Raise taxes Raise the minimum wage If your full time employees are on food stamps then you are receiving corporate welfare|0 Yup I couldnt agree moreOne can only hope it kills you and your entire family ASAP |0 Its dumb youre correct but youd be incorrect to assume that in a country of over 300 million people that none of them are fucking morons|0 Need to be born with a brain in order to lose it|0 These were genetically altered mice with a propensity for these issues These vaccine candidates were recommended for human testing but there was no disease to test them against|0 Nothing really changed It was already an emergency|0 Its most definitely possible but people in this sub have a strange relationship with China when the countrys actions fit with their doomer worldview they ring the bells and if not they are the first to bombard with criticism Basically cherrypicking stuff in order to excuse and fuel their prepping and worries|0 I definitely appreciate the advice but no matter what happens I am locked into my current lease until May I am planning on getting my own place then but until then Ill have to pay rent here so I feel like it would make sense to stay here That being said if SHTF I do plan on either going home or to a friends place depending on what will be possible if there are any quarentines Until then I feel that I would need some type of backup plan for them though|1 Unless their Navy is okay with the idea of having an average age of 60 among their service staff I dont see that happening|1 It means that harmonizing them is tough and that each groups testing criteria may make detection better or worse across jurisdictions and countries This is actually a huge undertaking tbh These validations take a while to get done and signed off though obviously WHO should be prioritizing now|1 hence why its called an epidemic It demonstrates a logistical growth curve|1 Well if its any consolation the person in Tempe is actually recovering at home right now not in the hospital |1 Hopefully the suffering is easy|1 Thanks for delineating olderelderly Im 63 but definitely dont consider myself elderly|1 Ill do my best Ive tried to help them make things safe for people but its hard when there are so many people not taking it seriously and spreading germs Not to gross you out but you would be surprised at how many people come in and eat without washing their hands Im a host so I see everything that happens in the front my desk is by the only path to the bathrooms Very few people go in there before they eat Honestly if they switched to delivery only I would stay but I just cant risk it as Im the first one who comes in contact with the public|1 LOL Oops|1 How the fuck is it racist It was a virus originating in China and for a majority of this subs life was only based in China|0 This is a better option than the payroll tax holiday Its more immediate and fills in gaps It also costs less Congress should do this immediately|1 Yes but it will take a different test which we dont have yet A blood drawn one looking for antibodies instead of the current nasalthroat swab Hopefully we will have that test soon as it would be great to be able to identify people who dont have to worry any longer and who can start consumer spending again|1 Puerto Rico waves sadly from a darkened room|0 Fox News anchor who agreed with president removed There I fixed it|1 Social science isnt the only reason a study can be flawed Their methods have to be correct No one qualified has verified this here And the fact that they released this without that says that its unlikely anyone qualified would sign off on their methodsI would completely discount this study as a source of scientific informationAlso Im finding it hilarious that you and another commenter seem to care more about your balls than your lungs|1 Ahhh yes On the bright sideif that is the casethen at least we have just a little more time before our demise hahahah|1 Youre a moron lolVice President Mike Pence created a firestorm after he informed agency officials that all messaging related to the coronavirus must be filtered through his office but a senior Trump administration official said on Friday that was only a temporary pause to ensure proper coordination Pences policy led to some career experts canceling television appearances though they have told lawmakers the administration is not silencing themWe want open clear rapid fast transparent communication the senior administration official said pointing to a Friday press briefing with White House officials and Health and Human Services Department Secretary Alex Azar and other media events Pence is just trying to make sure theyre not unintentionally scaring the American public by having people on at every hour of every single cable network and saying different things each hourhttpswwwgovexeccommanagement202002whitehousepledgesprotectemployeescoronavirusletexpertsspeak163419|1 You have internet you have parents with money you dont need to work or go outside you have no comorbities If your hardest thing is figuring out how to cook for yourself for two weeks I think youll be fine I get that is overwhelming and youre freaking out right now but youll pull through this|0 Exactly like that example Selfish interest over rational cooperation is exactly what will worsen efforts to eradicate this pandemic Humans are the absolute worst when they are cornered and then forced to react|0 Nah But several are reading it with their inteligence closed People hate facts when they are against them and their beliefs Plus English isnt my native language so if it is a grammar thing please reply to me in Portuguese to see how well you do Thank you|1 Yup County city Hospitals are mandatory to treat people in ERs by law Insured or not Covered by tax payers and insurance are paying for the uninsured Wonder why health insurance is so high And the poor uses ER as a clinic because they think its free Minor colds headaches why go to the store to buy otc meds ER is free|1 A Maryland state lab in Baltimore has confirmed the first three positive cases of coronavirus in the state The patients contracted the virus while overseas and they are in good condition Gov Larry Hogan said Thursday nightHogan released this statement Thursday nightThe states Public Health Laboratory in Baltimore has confirmed the first three positive cases of novel coronavirus in Maryland The patients who contracted the virus while traveling overseas are in good condition We have been actively preparing for this situation over the last several weeks across all levels of government I encourage all Marylanders not to panic but to take this seriously and to stay informed as we continue to provide updatesHogan is holding a press conference around 8 pm at the Maryland State House|1 Especially when you consider church gatherings are potential highrisk infection zones Sadly a lot of those people think church beats the virusand that is their downfall|0 This whole subreddit has devolved into crackpot conspiracy bullshit and its really boring TIL China owns WHO|0 Sure and im glad he did Im just saying that its kind of ridiculous to start talking about how well Trump did because he actually listened to someone who knew more than he did|1 Im currently working at a company that produces and sells disinfectant but I still might be misinformedSpray is not as efficient for skin as you need a big amount of liquid to reach all the spots for your hands In addition to that sprays only work if you rub them in be it surface or skin as its the friction that destroys the fatty hull around the virus and deactivateskills it Its essentially the same thing as washing your hands with soap after touching oil and breaking the oil down with the soap Thats also why regular soap works to some extent Soap also works just as well as those hand sanitizers that kill 99 of the bacteria To properly disinfect your hands you need about a big handful of disinfection until it drips down your hands pretty much and yes you do need around 30s Maybe its different in the States but as far as Im aware the only disinfectant you use for your hands is alcohol with lipid replenishers as frequent disinfection will damage your hands without it and you cannot disinfect damaged skin effectively|1 Alright but what about this points|1 In times of legitimate crisis this WWII etc a united Congress and President can do basically whatever they deem necessary|0 Serious question for OP and anyone else who might have some idea How many people seem to think this is a man made virus created by the US Or at least talk about that possibility no matter how outlandish they themselves think it is|0 I have a Senior too I think no graduation or let me clarifyeveryone graduates No ceremonys I talked to an internal med doc 2nights ago who is very involved with our local hospital disaster planning for this He said this will happen with md and nursing seniors they will be needed out in the work force Similar to WW2 In a more similar light they will let the hs seniors graduate No need for all the paperwork But plan on no promno graduation And yes you may will probably responsible to carry out online course work Sorry this is all happening your senior year Suckshappening with my kid too So sorry and good luck|0 Not even close to half the population is going to die|0 Please people donate extra masks to this hospital if you have been hoarding them|1 Before spring break is over I sure hope school is shut down Kids are vectors and a lot of them feel like its not their job to protect boomers They feel immune and dont care|1 Correction his location was compromised by hackers and he had them confiscated and was forced to donate them|0 Can someone please help me understand how they got these figures There has to be a large number of people that survived it without knowing they had it Ive read that its not easy to get tested for it due to the lack of testing sites|1 I made an ill advised joke after itvwas reported in January that there was a mystery pneumonia that china had invented a virus to kill off the Hong Kong protesters I only heard about the virus because of the Hong Kong threads In part the protests threw more light on the situation then would have been without them|0 Yes I fully support his decision a chinese communist puppet like him should just die of the virus which is made by his master|1 Everybodys like Just wash your hands Lord if it were that easy hospital workers wouldnt be wearing hazmat suits|1 Dont worry about the downvotes friend Better safe than sorry is a winning strategy whether other people want to acknowledge that or not I also got downvoted recently for saying Im stocking up a few weeks of food tp medication and masks right now just in case But like why shouldnt IWorst case scenario its not necessary and now I have extra snacks and supplies at home It also gives me some peace of mind which I like much better than anxiety puffedup defensiveness or nihilism Everyone deals with threats differently I guess but I definitely feel safest when I keep my eyes and ears open and start changing my habits out of an abundance of caution before the danger actually reaches my doorstepWe all know people in the US come to work when theyre sick and few people go to the doctor unless something is really wrong because its too damn expensive Its reasonable to be concerned about how fast it could spread here and lots of people going untested due to cost Why would you not just buy a couple more boxes of ricepasta and some extra tp and hand sanitizer at the store when you hear stories like weve been hearing Sounds like many of the people in Wuhan wish they had stocked up before grocery staples sold out Maybe we should learn from them|1 I been using this subreddit as well to inform people on twitter|1 Not sure whether youre trying to justify the handling of covid by WHO and other countries who didnt place travel restrictions but I want to point the following out My country Japan has been trying attract more foreign tourists every year Target is 40 million for 2020 The tourism industry has been increasing over the years and there are a lot of people working in related businessesChinese New Year usually brings a lot of tourists from China up to 2 million Leading up to Chinese New Year little talk was made between bureaucrats about placing travel restrictions partly because of interests of reaching said tourism targetsNow we have COVID epidemic damged international and domestic tourism and soon enough lockdown and other containment measures This happened because the bureaucrats prioritized the tourism and related industries over the health and safety of citizens The government has been giving out subsidies to tourisms businesses to reach their goals so maybe you can see that there may be a conflict of interest when government tourism and COVID measures are weighed outA lot of citizens detest government tourism goals as the sheer number of tourists have placed stresses on public transport systems public health and safety increased crime and general reduction of QOL for locals who are not involved in the tourism industry A lot think that the tourism industry has a weakness on being too relient on foreign tourists and that it should live and die with that weakness without government intervention and without compromising the livlihoods of other citizens ie shouldve restricted international travel during this epidemic|0 this is by far the BEST of anything out there THANK YOU|1 Its selfishness and rationalization for whatever despicable values they hold Expect it to multiply as things get worse Humans can get real ugly|0 Rosetta is CPUonly while Folding is GPUCPU but more effective on GPUs And they use quite different approaches AFAIK I run both leaving 1 CPU core per GPU for Folding and the rest of CPU cores for Rosetta|1 We had a chinese college student die suddenly last week It was blamed on flu type A but since its a sanctuary city they lost any credibility They cannot afford an economic downturn|0 Schools in my county are still requiring teachers to return to the school daily for distance learning Several schools are also child care sites that parents can pay 200week for during said school closure Great logic The best|1 Do you know if cold can make it last longer Eg refrigeration or outside in freezing temperatures|0 thanks for the thought|1 Overwork definitely plays a role in it You can find tons of stories of healthy young people who die from overwork like 100 hours a week If youre working insane hours AND you have the coronavirus you are going to have a much harder time recovering Theres a reason doctors always recommend getting rest when youre sick|1 Thank you for taking the time to write all this I am in the US and I read every word I also cut and pasted this into my email and Im forwarding it to everyone I knowYour time was not spent in vainThank you And stay safe and be well|1 No its not the same as the oh Bombay type which I hadnt actually heard of til today The oh group lack the H antigen Rhnull is referred to as golden blood and is even rarer they lack any antigens|0 Thank you free healthcare America rules Oh wait|1 Shopping tonight Be interesting to see whats not left on the shelves Was in Shoppers last night No hand sani but all kinds of cough and cold supplies on sale Seems some of the panicky types dont know what they are preparing for|0 Yeah this is literally a waste of time and resources not to mention the pollution its creating|1 Edited thanks|1 Oregon has paid sick leave but no other state does|0 The numbers might not be accurate but not far offI live in Shanghai My parents and some relatives still live in a small city around 150KM from Wuhan A cousin of mine lives in WuhanBased on social relationship theory by at most 6 hops you are connected to anyone and everyone At least by 3 hops in my social circle nobody was infectedTo make it clear if the Chinese people are getting infected secretly massively I expect someone in my social circle probably 2 or 3 hops away has got itNow everyone of China is super vigilant This virus outbreak will do us Chinese some big favors shutdown of wet markets much better hygiene habits and hopefully an improved infectious diseases reporting and prevention system|1 You do understand I was making a joke right|1 Why cant they just use a quantum computer I thought that this is exactly the shit they excel at complex problems with simple rule sets|1 Ya agree to what 99 percent of the world knows already|1 He is spreading bullshit Basically Germany put an export embargo on any German made medical supplies until the medical supply situation in Germany is under control Spahn health minister already said that theyll try to aid their neighbours as soon as possible but that they have to look after themselves first because if not who should then produce all those medical supplies Following the embargo there was a mix up where a single container in Hamburg got hold up by a customs official who apparentely didnt realize that this Embargo is only for German products not foreign ones The container got send its way afterwards|0 Same Im a very fit 29yo who works in a hospital and today is the first day ive felt normal in 3 weeks Dry coughing heavy fatigue and shortness of breath Usually my heart rate runs in the low 50s and my o2 Saturation last week waking up was 93 with a 107 hr on most days That means my body was compensating Im happy im feeling good but im nervous for a lot of people in this country|1 Killing whistleblowers ignoring it for about two months ignoring the people of Wuhan and then giving them gratitude reeducation ie torturous brainwashing when they complained to Xi about their treatmentGood show|0 Its okay after years of reducing the deficit well have plenty of room to take on debt and pad the economy so it can get back on its feet oh wait|0 It is no big deal until you are waiting for a ventilator and none is available|0 If we slow the spread we have a shot at not overtaxing our health care system as badly If we let it spread and people are infected more quickly then there is a nearerterm spike we run our hospitals way over capacity and have to start making hard choices about who gets ICU beds or respirators See this example for what I mean httpswwwtrendsmapcomtwittertweet1236342549167501317|0 I didnt realize the demographic in Italy Its very alarming|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on 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he is incompetent right now but I prefer him over Scott Kinda wish someone besides Gillium ran for Dems he turned out terrible|0 Right thats how US keeps the number low and our country is at low risk|0 Healthcare system is already overwhelmed right now doctors are picking who gets to live|1 sometimes I feel like a bridgeYou are like a light in the darkness to them I am sure|1 Does someone know how it got so bad so quickly in Italy|0 It lives on surfaces for several days so you must likely got it from a doorknob or something rather than contact directly Love your response to calm others Best recommendations currently are to manage it like a normal cold but do not take nsaids if you develop slight fever fever seems to aid immune response but being in a rural area if your temp gets dangerously high use your best judgement If you are the rural type with herbs available the Chinese data reported they treated with astragulus licorice and honeysuckle with some success there is more in their protocol but some of it isnt available here or has side effects Also cant go wrong with Vitamin D edit also cinnamon tea and hot beverages would be good Cinnamon oil can help prevent biofilms forming not sure breathing in cinnamon tea vapor would have the same effect but it is worth trying and will smell delicious|1 You cant compare European countries to Australia when places like Spain and France are having up to nearly 1k cases a day and Australia is having what 1020|1 That sounds like a great idea Maybe a little weird but in a global pandemic the likes of wich we have never seen before weird is the name of the game right now |1 Thanks Korea|1 Pretty sure if you challenge most institutions in the United States right now youd find them hollowed out poorly staffed poorly funded and rotten at the head|1 Because our government is doing much less to delay than other countries are|0 Yes My work will be closing down on the 20th But first we have required training to get ready for it Totally bogus The big training sessions will put me in contact with more people than if we just kept normal operations going|1 Shoot I forgot thanks Alright gotta godoorbell Must be COVID19|1 agree I hope most of them will recover with only mild symptoms|1 Yeah isnt this the kind of work hazard that workers comp should cover If theyre wearing the right PPE and following procedure then I see no difference between that and an accident at a construction site|0 Gets Not gets I have a legitimate interest in knowing why you would use an apostrophe in this case Would you care to share|1 Oh how disappointing I bet you do have some sad folks in your household tonight but it was the right thing to do to keep them safe Honestly you wouldnt want to get separated and quarantined somewhere You cant put a price on a piece of mind or someone you love It teaches you children to be civic minded and consider others Youll want that when you are old and need their help Btw Im just getting over it and its so awful and I would have written a 6000 check no problem to not have a collapsed middle lung and to never have had that experience I picked it up somewhere while traveling to vacation to Seattle Washington USA Im just saying good jobyou made a really hard choice that isnt the fun option I wish I had done the same|1 Came to here to say if anyone is worried and can afford spares they are available online Ive just ordered three from UK Meds for 2999I was also concerned as my asthma gets really bad when I have a cold so running out of pumps was something I definitely didnt want to do|0 The problem with this sort of tracking is that by the time you have enough covid cases to escape the background noise of seasonal influenza it means the situation is already Really Bad with hundreds or even thousands of people infected including healthcare workers We need to be testing people with symptoms if we want to get ahead of this|0 because all the 65 year old people live alone and none with younger peoplebut at least is something|0 Dude that wasnt her question She was worried about the containment zone closing down that stretch of highway|0 unpopular opinion they are not wrong they were smart enough to realize which items would have a strong demand an monopolized the market for their area|1 To be fair thats like a tenth of your total population|1 Got laughed at for wearing gloves and a mask at the grocery store this morning but i also didnt lose the whole day to one long anxiety attack so|0 By your logic everyones racist And no not every country is corrupt And yes China is third world|0 What a bullshit Why do you think China had to apologize after covering up SARS epidemic Because by not informing WHO they essentially allowed virus to dwell muatate and infect as many people as it could reach|0 Interesting that CPAC is going on right now Thats a lot of people gathering in one place They cant hide from the truth Too many people will be seeing the affects I dont see how they can control the message maybe the CDC but not the governors or people on the ground|1 For some reason flu cases in my country are just 13 of the numbers in 2019 and 2018 and already in decline|0 I can see the issue with the phone touching your face when calling but maybe just use headphones or speakerphone when talking I personally use only my fingertips to handle the phone when the rest of my hands have been thoroughly cleaned When Im at home and I am completely clean I use a paper towel that i wrap around my finger to touch the phone This way it keeps my hands clean|1 Not exactly that I would guess underreporting is reduced because of that though At some point suspected cases should reduce to a fairly low number relative to verified clinical or otherwise as clinical verification catches up with the backlog so to say But there would still be underreporting expected of cases too mild to need to seek help I thought I read something about Xi tracking down sick people but maybe I am misrememberingWhat Im getting at then is given the model is affected in some unknown way by underreporting and given we are almost certain to have underreporting to some unknown degree I wonder how sensitive the model is to that in terms of the peak date For example will 10k underreporting move the date out a week two weeks a month|0 Ive tried to convince my brother to quit his retail job both my parents are at a high risk due to being immunocomprimized but he wont get it It is egoistical to not help the store in a time of onstorm he said He just cares about the moneyI dont know what to do anymore we can just hope that we are lucky and wont get it to spread to out vulnerable family membersI wish you your family and your mom especially all the best stay strong and dont panic|1 Honestly it was a fair statement Nearly everything he says is either objectively false or at the very least highly questionableSpecifically he is making statements that are the exact opposite of what actual healthcare officials are making Believing him over pretty much anyone else is poor judgment|1 Its the worst day of your life so far|0 YepMy office basically told us theyre staying open but if were uncomfortable we can use our PTO and apply for unemployment so 50 of our paydoesnt pay my bills My boyfriend worked at a bar and lost his job Sunday night so Im now the only income in my household I dont have a choice because they havent frozen rent or mortgage payments|0 Alright I will give it a try in the morning Thank you|1 Because we need the efficiency of private business Most testing at the moment in the US is being done by a few private testing firms and those firms like money and know that people dont really have a choice They bill whatever they want and people either pay or get their credit ruinedEven with insurance coming down with this virus will cost the average American thousands in medical bills and if they are hourly thousands more in lost working hours since most dont have paid sick leave or certainly dont have 14 days of it|1 You can make your own hand sanitizer with just buying aloe vera gel and adding 10 rubbing alcohol Problem solved|1 You discounted few most important variables a city the size of New York lacks inventory due to burn extra 300 bodies Especially when you consider burials are illegal in Wuhan and all bodies are sent to industrial sized crematorium for processing in a city of 11 million|0 You shut yo mouth Our brilliant like a genius a very smart genius who knows things big things things like youve never seen or heard the best things better than anyone else things of a president told us the warmth of April will kill the virusSingapore is a hoax perpetrated by the do nothing Democrats Clearly it must be cold there because there is no global warming and its winter at the white house Its cold So no global warming Just regular April virus killing weather|1 Thats because of uncertainty and a complete lack of faith in the system in which we live You can be absolutely sure that when the government comes to help us they will expect some of us to lie down and die quietly This is the basis for hoarding in times of uncertainty In fact theyre already doing this Masks were gone in January Suppliers have them You just cant have any because youre not important enough This is expectation that you will lie down and die quietly To add insult to injury the surgeon general literally told the American people that masks wouldnt help them stop buying them so they could have them IMO we wont see a total market collapse especially after martial law is invoked and the forced labor camps gear up Oh they wont be called forced labor camps Theyll be called economic stimulus universities or some bullshit Im exaggerating here but not by much I heard this kind of talk this afternoon involving that neighborhood with the most infections in the US I forget the exact wording it was something like a quarantine but more benign sounding and that you needed an appointment to get in and out at the check points The wording was obviously coded to mean unless you have a permit to travel youre not fucking going anywhere It was completely Orwellian Anyone that was listening with half their brain would know that the way they described the situation was specifically chosen not to raise alarm in you that these people arent getting out until this is overPeople are laughing at people hoarding toilet paper But thats only going to last until were out I dont say that to try to be prophetic We dont know whats going to happen But one thing is certain Big business doesnt throw billions of dollar away for the benefit of their workers and unless theyre scared shitless Big business is an endless conveyor that grinds up their workers with little concern And yet here they are shutting everything down Theyre shaking in their boots This isnt about saving us This is about them saving themselves|1 My guess is that we need to come out the other side of this Manufacturing is core to our economy and sustainability whereas all you can eat pancakes is not Ideally manufacturing plants or their employees will put in place measures that limitstop the spread between employees as best they can|1 How can we blame this on brexit|0 Feb 8 is the date thats the moment of truth for me Until then we have reasonable time to prepare Thats 14 days after the start of the mass traveling for the Spring Festival and all the exchanges going on right now By then well know just how big of a shitshow this really is|1 Yep Bought a stash back on Feb 2 based on Reddit discussions we were all watching shit get very real in China and more or less flabbergasted by the tepid response by markets the US government etc I feel less crazy now Id honestly feel better if there werent COVID clusters exploding all over the US and I had a useless stack of N95s|0 Thanks that show is really good I forget his mom isnt a guy sometime Anderson plays an older lady quite well|1 What institution is he associated with I dont know who he is so sorry if wary Hes just so grossly condescending its really hard to get through|0 Its the downside of capitalism Just offer them more money to scan suspected patience|0 At no point did the OP say 700 million were in complete lockdown but nice diversion|1 WHO publicly announced their opposition You can also look up the earlier press conferences where the WHO explains why they recommended against travel restrictions but did defer to China by saying theyre doing what they think is besthttpswwwtechnologyreviewcomf615123thechinacoronavirusisofficiallyaninternationalemergency|0 I agree My friend on discord said that restaurants are closing down but only allowing drive thrus to be open at this time where he livesAs someone who worked in retail I think that there will be lots of restocking at grocery stores over the coming days weeks or months ahead but the biggest concern I have and worry about is customers hoarding supplies so that other people cant get supplies for themselves which could result in fights in the store over products like black fridayI can confirm the empty shelf thing that people are hoarding items because the only tp I could get was a 1ply toilet paper brand called angel soft which feels like coarse sandpaper Currently I am down to 1 or 2 rolls in my hall closet so I am gonna have to stop eating for a few days just to make them last|0 Stops you touching your face|0 I started buying doubles of our nonperishables 6 weeks agoAbout the same timeline here started bulking up the pantry and supply closet at the start of February Also thought about what do I eatdrink if sick and stocking up on basic medicines|0 And trump has been shaking errbodys hand recently|1 It is but keep fear mongering bro|0 UK have been running massive information campaigns about it not to go to the hospitaldoctors ect call a number wash hands ect its been all over the TV and radio here we have big radio culture here i wouldnt be surprised if the majority of Brits know about it or have at least heard about it by now not to confuse with us taking it seriously nobody will probably where masks until everyone is here|0 What the fuck does that even mean|0 Sadly US and italy have very different type of healthcare system you cant compare Here almost all is free |1 Video chat with them I recommend not seeing them in person I saw my parents a few weeks ago we were all asymptomatic and we all kept our distance and they feel fine but now I wish I hadnt taken the riskI predict we will all be able to see our higherrisk loved ones in 6 months or so|1 I do enjoy the memes on rcoronavirusmems|1 You are probably right I was thinking wed be under national lockdown by the end of the weekStay safe|1 Ironic coming from Google|0 It somehow baffles me why everyone insists to put so much importance on testingAs if thats be all and end allNo cure anyway I would also assume that the respiratory machines are limited and the majority of population will not get access|1 Right A normal person can have every symptom except one and they will not be eligible to take the test What a slap in the face|1 I tired warning people Told them to look at China asked what they would do if it happened here suggested that a stocked pantry is good to have for emergencies etc Anytime I tried saying too much people would just laugh it off and act like Im crazy|1 No but the CDC was gutted by the Trump administration in 2018 We no longer have a pandemic response team Theyre incapable of protecting us now|0 It breaks my heart that hes stuck at home I hope he goes out and about every now and then|1 Not to mention all the people here who are being denied tests despite showing symptoms|0 This is awesome wholesome good news I hope all companies follow suit Were all in this together The more we all share the burden the less we all suffer|1 Any studiespapersdata you can provide to support that Im interested|1 Will be watching this to see how McDonalds responds Im curious if this not yet officially declared pandemic is what it takes for more American companies to do the right thingI think they realize that 1 if they offer it now workers might demand paid sick leave for more common contagious illnesses like cold and flu and 2 if they dont offer it people will avoid their business and it might be a PR problem but probably just a temporary one|0 Nice reversal there|1 These fucks should be put in prison for spreading disinformation during a pandemic|0 My chain just had temporary layoffs of several hundred people When you know them personally it hits hard but agreed one has to realise there are so many more in the same boat or worse|0 Yes really shocking You know youre fucked when your government tells you that masks dont protect you|0 Yes I already lost mine you will lose yours too It will be a time where money wont mean shit for awhile Doesnt matter if you drive a 2020 mustang or a fucking 1980 Honda Civic doesnt matter if you have a nice suit and tie or a fucking shirt with holes in it We will finally all be equal trying to survive with what we know and not what we have|1 Do bandannas work as well|1 Thank you for your response We live in Florida and she flew to the Keys My issues isnt the keys Its the fact that she went to an international airport I think she is putting her patient population at risk by going to work tomorrow The hoarding is supplies is silly and frankly hurtful Especially the masks We always have a few months worth of dry goods available since we deal with hurricanes I increased the back stock by another month just to ensure we dont have to leave Im not worried about the supply chain breaking down If that happens we have more to worry about The supply chain for food and basic necessities didnt break down in China|1 Hopefully they cancel school soon otherwise people with asthma like me will die instantly|0 Eventually their houses will be full though and they will have to stop buying|0 They promised PostSARS 1|1 Intubation is a terrible thing|0 Just saw him on NBC today The man looks super exhausted I cant imagine trying to juggle facts vs politics at the moment Its so unfortunate how the US has such a misaligned set of priorities|0 Your attempt at a dismissive insult only highlights the thing you want for yourself That time has come and gone Get used to those four walls|0 What the local authorities in Wuhan did was irresponsible and there really is no excuse The Chinese people are also openly disappointed in how it was handled and as a result the provincial leader of Hubei was dismissed which is very unusual since its such a high position akin to a state governor in the US But you can understand their reasoning in the beginning there were only a handful of cases of this new disease and they didnt know how contagious it was hence why a lot of the medical team fell sick because they didnt think they needed protective clothing The authorities were thinking its not a big deal dont cause panic and that came at a high price But what they have done since then is really good building hospitals organising quarantine and lockdown etc and we can still commend them for thatWhat is more disappointing now is that a lot of other countries are still in this dont panic mindset despite they can see how bad the virus is The United States needs to get its act together The shit will probably hit the fan in the UK too at some point|0 Darwin awards|1 Everyone is forced to quarantine no matter what result anyway|0 LolThe results are about a week away Extra test kits are about a week away Lol|1 Oops LOL the CDC|1 Firstly we would lose a significant amount of doctors and nurses as they would have to stay at home to look after kids At the time that we need them mostIf you keep the schools open all these medical parents are at risk of catching the virus from their kids An entire medical department can be quarantined with just one caseThere are lot of different things to consider and different solutions have their own problems with them There might not be any right answers here but I think that its generally agreed upon that locking down is one of the most effective ways to stop the spread|1 Chinese doctors and nurses are all heroes and I hope after all of this they are rewarded and recognized|1 Theyre acting like its the same as flu so are STILL going around with their grubby unwashed hands coughing and sneezing all over the place Because lets be real they werent taking the health advice for infections and viruses before I guarantee|1 Ive seen this posted a dozen times and the source is always a friend of a friend who works at the pentagonEither that dude has a lot of friends that hes told or its bullshit|1 In other words the lack of Kpop saves lives|0 I want everyone who considers Terrance Tam Canadas top doctor to raise their hand|1 All these people buying cold and flu medicine and ibuprofen are going to have a bad time if they catch Covid19|0 Half mask resperator or n95 disposable need a bit of reassurance here intending to advise my 65 year old parents to start wearing wish Id bought some disposables now as they are less conspicuous atm|1 Preppers dont trust government thats still no reason to go outside and play in the hurricane|0 Not to mention these people are young and at the peak of health They could easily be convinced or convince themselves to risk it|1 Its not too much different from the already running elearning instances except the product managers and the content managers will upload different courses I guess an exam module That content is yet to be made probably It will be pretty tricky on our side when 40k one uni for example students will suddenly access the same service for the same 15 minutes This virus definitely brings challenges to everyone|1 victims theyre healthy enough to still be out selling food|1 The research inside proves you wrong|0 Youre not taking the time lag into account Its a slow burning disease starts as a little cold then a little worse then a little worse then to the hospital for an oxygen mask then a ventilator it takes a surprisingly long time 214 days from infection to symptoms THEN in patients who end up dying its 185 days from symptoms to death The deaths we have now are from people infected 4 weeks ago 4 weeks ago we had 60 confirmed cases none of them ended up dying the deaths came from elsewhere|0 I would not be surprised if they actually announce the results if its positive just to show how serious the situation is It would also look better if he recovers from it|1 Probably its not true because everyone tested rn would come out as positive|1 So why dont more people have it then Do we just not know the true number or does it just not attack some people Because in the air for 3 hours and on some surfaces for up to 3 days youd think a lot more people than 120000 worldwide would have it by now|1 The government is dumping billions into the market right now it will be fine And by fine I mean there will be layoffs depressed wages and multimillion dollar bonuses for CEOs But the market will recover and thats all that really matters|1 Im not talking about violence towards anyone just karma|1 What is your oxygen saturation percentage If youre already discharged it should be listed on your discharge paperwork along with your other vitals|1 In the same light parents who let their children come to school with the virus potentially need to be punished too|0 I missed this story What does that mean|0 This virus is connecting as humans like nothing ever before We are watching and living history in the making|1 Its definately NOT going really well Were constantly raising taxes and lowering spending yet we see GDP increases far lower than expected and increased unemployment which is also higher than in similar nations|0 Seems like if Im still asymptomatic at the end of the quarantine which runs through the incubation period then no further testing will be done However another person I know who had a slight fever when she received her test which also came back negative will be getting tested again regardless So I think theyre pretty thorough since healthcare isnt as profit driven here so prices are reasonable|0 He has a runny nose A clear sign its not covid19 Fever cough difficult breathing Unless of course he has the bad luck to have both the c19 and a common cold on top of it|1 as an italian the best advice i can give is stock food water and essential medicine|1 My God We seem like such scum|1 Is there a chart like this but with deaths instead of confirmed cases Not all countries are testing at the same rate Shouldnt the death rate be more reliable than confirmed cases|1 I love democracy I love the Republic|1 Thats why is important to understand severity of the illness and act accordingly If containment fails and virus will spread to every corner of the world but it will be in fact just a flu its better to have working society as we do during flu seasons than have economy collapse because people are terrified|0 What are you talking about never thought your government wont even let the doctors look at you without money No wonder the CDC give up Your whole state is built on fear and owning gunsYour Black Fridays are a clear example of how fucking mental you are and above all you never really experienced going through hardship like China|1 Here is a preprint from January 31st when This was first discovered in case people dont like the news sourcehttpvirologicalorgtncov2019spikeproteinreceptorbindingdomainshareshighaminoacididentitywithacoronavirusrecoveredfromapangolinviralmetagenomicdataset362httpvirologicalorgtncov2019spikeproteinreceptorbindingdomainshareshighaminoacididentitywithacoronavirusrecoveredfromapangolinviralmetagenomicdataset362|0 Fucking lmao Thats an awfully long way to say your another sad American thats threatened and insecure about the fact that the Chinese are rising higher and higher while youre country is obviously on the decline Anyone thats read a book can tell you that Americans are a violent and insecure culture Theres a reason Americans are stereotyped in Europe as being backwards simple minded uncouth hillbillies I mean cu I half the US still thinks that if they just pray hard enough your problems will go away That global warming and evolution and vaccines are just government conspiracies Its not like America is lacking in religious superstition Oh also the us caused swine flu like 10 years agoI think I speak for a lot of the world when I say were enjoying Americas fall from grace Its blindly obvious your entire political sceneMAGA is just a desperate attempt at clinging to a long gone past All you had to say is that youre butthurt about Chinas progress Its okay I understand that change can be hard but lashing out pathetically and doing every thing you can to convince youre self that the Chinese are actually paper tigers is only gonna hurt you in the long run Lying to yourself doesnt change reality or the future Were been hearing that the Chinese are gonna collapse and fail any day now for the past 20 years Maybe if Americans were capable of being honest about the world they wouldnt have fallen from world leader to global laughingstockIts akin the 45 year old that played football in high school and cant stop remincscinig about his old glory days Its just sad|0 I actually saw that this morning at sams a big palette roller with 4 3 packs of gallon bleach as well as water and toilet paper and paper towels the one thing I didnt see in any quantity at all was Three guesses Food|1 Exhibit B While I think China is still not being transparent there is no way people in the US would allow anything close to Chinas quarantine efforts to happen I can see it now This is why we have the 2nd amendment|0 Im on long Island and had a similar experience I have a cough and sore throat that gave a positive strep test but as I sat coughing waiting to see the doctor no one asked me if I had been traveling no one wore even gloves let alone masks Medical people here are not taking it seriously at all and they are going to be the most likely exposed and pass it on|0 Yes of course which is what I think is meant by not getting help until she gets life support I agree this testing halt can only backfire In China and many parts of Europe nursing homes and assisted living isnt a thing but in the US you have many situations where the elderly and vulnerable are all clustered together and if one person gets ill in those situations the death rate spikes|0 Well thankfully youre not a lawmaker do what we say or we take away healthcare from you There is no mandatory law enacted yet to ban this event from happening and so these people made the decision even with the risks involved You condemning them from behind your computer screen and demanding that they not be allowed to do this sounds pretty authoritarian of you Im proud that they all got together to show that there are communities out there standing in defiance of the mass orders to social distance and selfquarantine If everyone in this picture is dead in 14 days then I guess they were wrong But the fact remains that they lived on their own terms not the recommendations of a government or the condescending comments of redditors|0 With the Trump administration the USA have long stopped caring for what happens to Europe NATO UN old and new allies see KurdsHell it seems they even stopped caring about the USA|1 There are ways to purchase online but I hesitate to point anyone in that direction Chloroquine is not a benign drug|0 just think of all the bribers and lobbyists he has shaken hands with|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 The lockdown isnt even proven to be working Death count is actually going up|0 I work in a small rural hospital Every time I mention it here it is treated like a joke And it will be until the government sends out stern warnings not the wishy washy bullshit they did tonight|0 That is pretty alarming Its going to get worse|0 Reading the article it seemed to have previously released funds and reprioritized pharmaceutical companies to create vaccines and treatments during the H1N1 flu outbreak|0 Thanks We have currently 3 confirmed cases since Tuesday That number will go up eventually since the patients were detected with the disease days after they were here so they were in contact with many peopleAnyway at least the government has taken rapid preventive actions not thaat rapid but good enough I think Italy taught everyone a lesson of how serious this is|1 Because there are no tests and there is no real expectation of the tests arriving in time to help people arriving today|0 Except he is right and his logic perfectly applies We do have a clear distinction between conservatives and liberals in everyday life Our retarded president for instance was elected precisely by conservatives particularly older people who share his prejudices and idiotic views|0 Not trying to be rude but you should definitely read up on it a bit before commenting Oxygen supply is the easiest part of the equation|1 It also helps to buy things youd enjoy eating regardless so you dont wind up with a bunch of excess food you wouldnt want to eat|1 My school has closed because of the corona virus so the teachers are sending us homework via Edmodo Please join my class using this code tbps75 so that it has lots of people from everywhere You just have to create and account and entre the code Please|1 That would be a huge over reaction Do you remember what it was like when air travel in the US was shut down for just a few days after 911Business in this country and the world would come to a scratching halt Hell we would have problems just getting food and basic supplies across the country Not to mention are you willing to pay the airlines all their lost income The wages of all of those employees All the workers that depend on those industries to survive You are talking about an economic hit to this country in the billions easily|0 Are you in Indiana They recently did that here too but my dad said his church might disregard that rule I think thats irresponsible as fuck but when has religion ever been rational|0 Its a fine line though You have to balance the economic effects too They can be also disastrous to people if their livelihood or business goes and could have long term repercussionsI actually have quite a lot of trust so far in what the government and its science advisors are saying and doing|1 I still cant believe how in Genoa there isnt anyone infected and were between the two infected regions here in Italy It seems that were lucky|1 Its not to hard to make thc infused butter and your own edibles at home worth a shothttpsmyoutubecomwatchvWj0nslb1XZ8|1 They lost the most important part of the case last night Scroll down|0 Please do the original is not mine I did change a few unnecessary racial slurs though as I didnt think they added to it|1 My workplace is considering having us all work from home and its like guys cant we start doing it now before this thing spreadsIt feels stupid that we have to wait for it to become a problem before we actAlso if youre that worried wear a mask at the wedding and use hand sanitiser|0 Or you know being the virus to an otherwiseClosed off section of the world possibly causing the deaths of who knows how many people Irresponsible and I fear our all about us attitude willBe the end of us one day Maybe this will be a wake up call when its over|0 This is literally not true mortality rate statistics are always higher at the beginning of a pandemic quit spreading bs|0 Should kill nCov enveloped viruses are quite fragile Doesnt kill bacteria like staph so in general youd be better off with actual rubbing alcohol or some other disinfectant|0 Personally Im not afraid of the virus My concern is needing medical care for something else from an overran medical care system|1 People dont act in their own interest many times And they like to reject fear embrace the moment and just forget about things that are unsafe until it affects them personally Id love to read a book about the psychological mechanisms that let this happen and things like it|1 Our leader is Doug Ford And hes probably one of the people that thinks Corona Virus can be cured by stopping the import of the Corona Beer|0 Unfortunately you cant catch anything HOWEVER you can be caught by a bear or mountain lion|0 Im guessing the demographic on that boat is primarily the elderly like most cruises Has Japan decided old people are expendable They are the likeliest to die in that petri dish|0 Im in the northeast and its business as usual right now despite there being no good reason to expect it will stay that way Was in NYC for the past 5 years and cant say I envy people there especially those who think it wont touch their lives in any way|1 The generations that lived through the two world wars the depression and the 1918 flu were a lot more capable of self sacrifice and pragmatic about taking care of themselves without the default view that someone else would rescue them The current living generations of North Americans have an inflated sense of entitlement and seem to be blind to the fragility of their way of life Hope that covid changes that|0 Ask him how many ventilators or ECMO machines his rural hospital has Country strong doesnt mean much when people are dying with nothing to save them|1 Then i want you to go out and ask hospitals what you can do to help force people into the fear bubble Go ahead See you say we but you dont include yourself There is no we here You are expecting someone else to slow and stop the spreadYou want something done get like minded people and do it yourself|0 Seriously though why toilet papers|0 If it makes you feel better the north is already infected The maps were seeing of confirmed cases is drastically incorrect The CDC is refusing to test anyone who isnt in respiratory failure in order to keep the numbers low|0 One of the major problems right now is that we have no useful data at all from many of the less developed countries some of which have much different climates than the USA or EuropeWe know the USA numbers are low because of the lack of testing But what about nations like India and BrasilThey have completely different climates and very dense populations with very few resources I really doubt that Indias numbers are anywhere near the real number Brasil is probably much lower than the real number too There may potentially be many sick people in these nations not being reported If that is happening in the USA surely it is happening in India and BrasilPeople in Europe and the USA will hopefully selfquarantine They have supplies and services available That may not be possible for impoverished people living densely|0 Your example leaves out the important part Nobody is going around eating elevator buttons|1 Also likeonce someone is sick they can become delirious or have trouble knowing when theyre gonna cough Ffs have some compassion for the people you care for These people shouldnt work in human health Jeez I only work in vet medicine and when I got severely bit by a dysphoric cat waking from surgery a year ago I was adamant in correcting every doctor or nurse who said something to me joking about how mean cats are like I was pissed and defended the cat since he was dysphoric and scared Yes people should put masks on but if you go into human health you need compassion and understanding for people|1 yeah these flu kills more people twats really piss me off you dont see government health officials dressed like an astronaut or deep sea diver fogging the shit out of places with disinfectant when the Flu is in season|0 Elon is a master of numbers He has to know where this is really going And given his propensity for capricious firings this email is nothing less than a veiled threat to staff Its an act of pure narcissism Sorry Elon I can write off pedogate as a hot tempered mistake but this is the same sort of calculated evil you accuse your father of|0 Yeah lets totally weed out the mentally deficient Reddit|1 India is screwed Probably all 3rd world countries Regarding the west as it seems now its under control|0 Childrens cardiology is a scary place to have this virus emerge|0 I actually just started watching one of his videos and started getting wound up so I thought I would check back over here as it happens So Ive gathered its not as transmissable as we thought based on an asymptomatic iceberg but probably more deadly So with adequate testing and isolation can we contain this thing as it stands now in the US with newly expanded testing but also relatively few clusters and also less intense crowding as urban Asia or Europe on average|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Heres a question is there a way to post a malicious wikipedia edit to reddit that you stumble across without being accused of doing it yourself Or purely because Ive posted this means it must have been me Is there anything in my post history that suggests any other malicious postingcommentary I just found it while doing my typical hourly scan of everything this lunchtime and thought some others might appreciate a chuckle too|1 I think were getting ahead of the curve Were taking drastic steps sooner than Italy did and certainly sooner than the UK is doing Were not there yet for sure but the states need to step up and take care of this Schools closing was a great step for the states that did this New York did it this morning I think after MAJOR fallout from teachers and families|1 women are great|1 Please put Canada in quarantinelook at Europe everyone is closingnow testing wont helpjust empty streets|1 So if he lives in a condo we can expect a few more cases from the same tower and BC authorities can say omg wow surprise who could have thought that a highly infectious disease could transmit from h2h SurprisedPikachu|1 Yeah DW is a pretty great channel I watch it sometimes and am always impressed by the quality of reporting|1 Its much worse in the USA because the testing artificially deflated the numbers by design|0 You do realize many hospitality workers cant just choose to stay home without losing their jobs right Or that for many people living paychecktopaycheck choosing to just not work for two weeks or more can easily mean not being able to afford food or bills Whats more adult choosing to quarantine because it flattens the curve or providing for a household that would crumble without that necessary income There is a gun to their head its just a little more metaphorical Get off your high horse|1 HEY DOWNVOTING DISHONEST AMERICAN SHITS AT LEAST WE WONT DIE BECAUSE OF SHITTY HEALTHCARE AND MORON POLICIESCOVID 19 designed to get rid of idiots hey Americans|0 Well fuck|0 To address your editNo the point about heterogeneity is not moot Im well aware of Spanish flu it had the ability to kill healthy young adults this is something that SARSCoV2 hasnt displayed so far This is important when you consider the impact on the population something increasingly relevant if large swaths are infected As mentioned the CFR will likely drop directly due to the asymptomatic and subclinical cases that are not being captured Theres not doubt that its a disaster in Wuhan which I dont think anyone is denying|0 The world today has 68 billion people Thats heading up to about nine billion Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines health care reproductive health services we could LOWER that by perhaps 10 or 15 percentYou can find many quotes where Gates talks about population control Its easy to find more context for the quotes as well But in what healthy mind is this an OK thing to say Who does he think he is to control other peoples birth rates|1 Id wager a lot of those its just a fly are likely Trump supporters|1 I think theyre referring to the people in the highup political circles who dont practice or believe in the things they say but push it for reelection The republican on the street is as you say and a Gaetz is like you say but some of these other guys probably do know better but theres a lot more value in continuing to be a corporate stooge Cruz in particular was very antiTrump up until after his loss in the primary Then suddenly hes tooting the Trump horn despite the wretched shit Trump said about him during the run Cruz is one of the first people Id believe to have liberal ideas on the inside but to have sold those for personal gain|1 On the basis hospitals will soon be full should we plan on treating ourselves at home What can we do if we get sick|0 These are real lives youre talking about nukingEven if there is a lunatic who decided to press the button how are you sure China wont retaliate with their own nukes Wed either die from Coronavirus or nuked to death not a pretty picture and youre definitely no Michelangelo|0 This shouldve been considered by WHO when the first cases outside of china were reported vs how fast the virus spread inside China But nooo wecant call it pandemic until we leat kost of the countries get their share of the virus If WHO really wanted to PREVENT they couldve impose more severe starting with S1 scenario 1but thats what you get when or economic stability is more important than a few hundred lives and tens of thousands to be infected|0 Because at risk groups will still mob the healthcare system if left unchecked This doesnt mean you just let it run its course Even with a lower CFR people still die|0 well i would admit i have more faith in the cdc they did tell us the other day that china is beyond containment and now in mitigation stage|1 Because it presented so severely that it was easy to contain So far about 80 of people infected with covid19 have mild illness so it has been more difficult to contain because they dont seek care or are more active than those that are severely ill|0 This infuriates me Isnt the death rate so high because we arent testing enough people If we tested every person with symptoms we would have a higher total amount of cases thus causing the death rate to plummet Am I wrong Because if Im not then its highly irresponsible going around citing that number|0 Dude I am so with you Japan is up there with the US as a public health disaster in the making Singapore is the poster child of Reddit because of they didnt sit on their asses waiting for the epidemic to blow up They tested aggressively tracked cases quarantined and were transparent with public health messaging at every stage They learned their lesson from SARS What is going on here in the US a fucking joke Its clear that the people who deplaned people from the Viral Princess at Travis Air Base were not adequately trained or gearedup and they in turn infected someone in the local community in Solano County who in turn infected the woman who was the first community case detected in the US the hospital in Vacaville She then went to UC Davis Med and was refused COVID19 testing for several days And so here we are folks this is where Italy was 10 days ago The prediction has to be something like the West coast has 75 cases by the end of next week 500 by the week after and then WE ARE SOUTH KOREA|0 Please stop reading these scare mongering subs The risk to the individual is still low if youre young Humanity will get through the pandemic Not the end of the world|0 I mean yeah a lot of jobs are jobs you should probably quit anyways but taking the moral high ground doesnt exactly put food on the table and roof over my head|1 Thank you we have planned to go toJapan to visit our son and your numbers are helping us make informed decisions Bless you|1 Original is a PDF but at the end it says Readers who have difficulty accessing this PDF file may access the HTML file at httpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes69wrmm6908e1htmscidmm6908e1w|0 Oh youre racist because youre not willing to sacrifice your health and life for another country|0 that has no relevance on the current situation in china where obesity rates are at 5 which is comparatively very low compared to the UK USA and australia|0 I wish we would too Passing lane is for passing CHP is pretty on top of it when it comes to that but most other state police dont typically seem to care It is a really big issue though|1 But this world is in the embrace of Papa Nurgle for now|1 stay home and take care of yourself Hope you start feeling better soon|1 Were those therapy drugs which help to generally lessen virus I had read that was the case and some of the drugs used to help against secondary autoimmune diseases like hiv|1 If you work in NYC you shouldve gotten at least some acknowledgement from your employer I got a long ass email about it last Friday Were able to work remote for the most part Basically the email I got stated that its business as usual until either any of the three happen1Local schools are closed2Mass transit sees major lapses or is shut down3We receive our first confirmed case of an employee being ill with the virus|0 Well wasnt the wall a nation emergency too|0 Same In fact I almost never worry Didnt worry about North Korea when it was big in the news a while back or Iran or even Ebola or the swine flu But this time Im genuinely a bit worried|0 Italy also has the 5th oldest populationhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesbymedianage at an average age of 45522 of their populationhttpswwwstatistacomstatistics270473agedistributioninitaly is older than 65For comparison 16 of the US populationhttpswwwstatistacomstatistics270473agedistributioninitaly is older than 65 and 11 of Chinas populationhttpswwwstatistacomstatistics270163agedistributioninchina is older than 65Italy is seeing a lot of older people get it because they have a lot of older people 50 more than the US and twice as many as China percentage wise|1 I agree The Wuhan area iswas under lockdown how long Are they still under lockdown Even if not that was far longer than one month This isnt 1918 where people often could maintain distances easier Were closer even in the suburbs Our stores are farther away in the suburbs not to mention more rural areas necessitating driving not just walking to the corner And in the cities thats A LOT of people in small areas that would need foodstuffs and supplies This is a logistical nightmare far worse than 1918s But we also have things that can help like the internet if we can harness it for this unprecedented circumstance|1 Same Our company is refusing to close but are working on getting us to work remotely EXCEPT the bureaucratic red tape is taking its sweet time Who knows if it will even happenAnd this seems to be the general attitude of larger US companies if not worse We are fucked|0 It seems purposeful Theres a reason they want this to spread is the only conclusion I can come to currently Incompetence doesnt explain this but sociopathic motivations certainly does|1 Great now Manitoba is thinking about ordering more ventilators Im sure China can just ship them right over|1 Holy shit|0 Hopefully Trudeau will pull his head of his ass or abandon this suicidal economic game of chicken and implement widespread lockdowns and universal testing|0 Price gouging works in an economy where all the participants are rational entities that are following the rulesit will always workIt doesnt work right now because there are single assholes buying out everything manufacturers are making and reselling it Hoarding is not price gougingallowing prices to increase will reduce the number of assholes who are hoardingbut we have single individuals buying BOXES of them to INTENTIONALLY resell and fuck people over Thats immoral as fuckfuck people over how|0 The federal govt of the United States is shite|1 Staff and caregivers should wear the N95 and face shield if possible People without symptoms can still spread the virus so a surgical mask is ok for everybody because we dont know who is infected and whos not and the fact of the matter is that we do not want to infect those at major risk so the curve of the epidemic is flattened and hospitals arent overwhelmed|0 My GF and i went to the store they were totally out of hand soaps but right next to it were tons of body washes and other soaps Got a big thing of dawn and some genetic body wash In theory we figured they should work even if its a but less effective its better than rationing the 1 bottle we had left|1 I hear ya Maybe Twitter isnt the best way of conveying important info in this case Or maybe a Twitter post with a link to more detailed info wouldve been better Ah well What can ya do|1 Yeah because there corrupt so is American Chinese and probably many other countrys health organizations across this planet Its past containmentno not fear mongering or hate just sure its here in america I know a local heart and lung nurse who has confirmed a case in utah that still is uncounted be safe be smart wash your hands often avoid touching your face and remember personal space is not a bad thing|1 He basically went to Chris fuck it you br PM Even in the press conference he did fuck all and let the CMO do the talking|0 What is this little baby bitch doing with a scope inside a supermarket|0 You can although its not always the easiest way to do things If you can produce an antibody which is specific for that viral protein you can attach a tag a fluorescent molecule for example to that antibody and then see if it sticks to any viral protein in a sample Its a lot easier to test for the presence of antibodies against the virus than for the virus itself since what you do in that case is take a plate covered in virus proteins cover it with a sample of the patients blood serum and then wash it all away so that the only thing that would be left behind are antibodies that can stick to the virus proteins on the plate You can detect antibodies left behind on the plate by using a different set of tagged antibodies that stick to any human antibodies This lets you use commercial tagged antibodies instead of having to make your own Both RTPCR and antibodylinked detection methods have pros and cons and an advantage of RTPCR is that you can quickly begin testing with it once you know the viruss genetic code|1 Yes What killed the the fit and young in 1918 was their strong immune systems overreacting to the virus That would be a terrible thing to develop again|1 Thats insane My wife just got back from China and was tested 4 times before they let her goThe virus is everywhere airports can stop their racism and start testing everyone now|0 In case youre all not aware rcoronavirus has become the sounding board for proCCP propaganda Youll be downvoted and apparently posts will be removed for anything that sheds any light on the true situation in China|1 I cant listen to people telling me that flu is worse than Corona and corona is just Flu there are even doctors saying this|0 Not sure if I should be authorized to post here My issue amoung others is primarily anger at governments and health authorities and the apparent systemic failures going on that I see resulting in thousands of people suffering and dying unnecessarily with possibly millions more to come in coming months and witnessing the system set up to skew the data and facts on the matter and essentially endangering BILLIONSTheres such apparent misinformation committed by state mainstream media and health authorities skewed official data egregious negligence It looks as if this pandemic is intended to spread I simply cannot believe the public relation stooges I am simply sickened by what seems to be ubiquitous misinformation from what I thought were otherwise respectable sources I feel lied to betrayed belittled treated like an idiot and my family and myself willfully endangered by what is apparently a global systemic failureThis coronavirus and how nations are handling the situation has destroyed any esteem I ever had for the very concept of establishmentPeople need to buy time for a vaccine to be developed But how the authorities are handling the situation and how societies are designed seems to be quickening rates of infection and skewing the stats on the matter conveniently covering up the fact of I such systemic negligenceWhat is needed is timely accurate information provided to the public for the public to make their own informed decisions on how to extend their time before they might get infected so they can 1 get better treatment if they finally do get infected or 2 get vaccinated if they ultimately they dont get infected Delaying getting infected is the objective of paramount importance of everyone Having that focus is what will save lives and avert panicBut this is not happening Instead essential information is being withheld misinformation runs rampant topdown decisionmaking by PR profitdrivenstooges is resulting In nothing less than systemic criminal negligence causing mass suffering and death Even the following regarding peoples pets would help people make informed decision to buy some time Do pets infect people with SARSCoV2 Or is it only people who infect pets with it Some articles say pets can be infected with SARSCoV2 by humans but cant in turn infect humans with it how the duck not exactly Other articles say pets cant get infected Nothing on how they cant either infect nor be infected though Nevertheless it is said that you should quarantine your animal if it does get sick Oh and and wash your hands after handing your pet and especially before eating it is said Oh and dont kiss it etc What ami an idiot Why do I have people educating me that are clearly less intelligent less informed and clearly cognitively impaired andor morally bankrupt They base their claim that pets cant transmit the virus on no evidence as if no evidence is conclusive of anything WTF How is it they arent getting sued for such conclusions spouted about based on evidence of nothing Such is a blatant epistemological fallacy I guess its become the norm the media arrives at similar conclusions using similar logical fallacies all the time there is no community transmission based simply on not finding any evidence of such Such statements endanger nth public providing a false sense of security It is misinformationOur political leaders health authorities media seem to think its their role is to bombard the public with the misinformation of citing no evidence of local transmission as conclusive evidence there is non local transmission and then blame the public for panicking not taking their source of information as gospel bing otherwise misinformed by any other source stupid dirty and ultimately responsible themselves for their own outbreakHas there been any explanation as to why pets cant infect humans other than because theres no evidence that this has happened yet Other articles published previously say pets cant be infected at all by SARSCoV2 Other articles say they can be infected by SARSCoV2 by humansI would like an Explain it Like Im Five please health authorities media government etc on how it is that pets can be carriers of the SARSCoV2 but cannot transmit it not because I am an idiot but because if you cant its clear you areI am not even all that concerned about pets getting infected by humans or pets infecting humans Its just one issue of thousands of others regarding this coronavirus outbreak that has me crawling up the walls driving me nuts|0 Thats a lot of tests One hundred billion one hundred fifty thousand tests would allow everyone on Earth to have like 13 tests each and idk I think that might be overkill|1 My point is that as far as the total numbers of deaths go it wont actually make as much of a dent as many of the threats to our existence already out there You could be in the same room as someone with Coronavirus and theres a 996 998 chance if youre under 60 that you will continue with your day and even an 80 chance that you wont feel like you have more than a cold with a feverI have lived in the shadow of HIV for my whole life I dont know how many times Ive been worried that Id caught it Its been quite a few HIV and AIDS still is an epidemic Everyone I know who has it despite what they tell you is on medication that definitely interferes with their quality of life and overall health But thats a whole other discussionCrystal meth use in my area went up 900 in the last few years especially in the gay community and Ive been watching every other guy I know start smoking and gradually become less and less social Eventually you stop hearing from them directly Then you see them again and theyve lost 100 lbs and arent looking good but still wont get help or take help when its offered so theres nothing you can doNo one cares about any of that stuff though and it makes sense behaviorally you can avoid itBut heres the thing If you catch Coronavirus and you arent old or sick theres nothing to worry about The worst thing about having Coronavirus is that you could spread it to someone vulnerableGet symptoms stay home for 3 weeks go back to your normal life It wont be that different from having a flu With the exception that you have to worry about who you pass it on toI dont disagree that its a terrible thing But from everything Ive read and looking at all the other threats out there I dont think the panic over it is justified|0 Or like how our insurance was changed in the last week of the year to one of those catastrophic only plans with a 6750 deductible and also tied our prescription coverage to that same deductible which made a pair of my meds go up to over 500 each Even at my rate of pay 1250hr thats still far beyond what I can afford|0 But isnt it mainly dangerous for older people or people with a weakened immune system Why should the young people be afraid|1 If it collapses the collapse will definitely be delayed That leaves time for antivirals to be tested|0 Good I hope so|1 Democrats are doing the exact same thing Instead of actually doing anything theyre pointing fingers at Trump nearly giddy with excitement that something is distracting from their trainwreck of a primaryThey wouldnt care if 3 of the US population dies as long as they get someone else elected|0 There is its called Congress the President and Supreme Court all being okay with it|1 Jeez no toilet rolls here either |0 Im from China and I read about donations by Direct Relief before I genuinely thank them very very much for helping out at the time of emergency And their donations are surgical masks not N95 Now I just hope mask factories in China could slowly go back to normal production when the situation is getting controlled and export the resources to countries who need them|1 Its a supply and demand issue unfortunately If we had more Brazilians wed see a higher saturation of Brazilian posts|0 This graphhttpsimgurcomgalleryQQLjplT shows us outperforming most other countries Whatever were doing its worked better than what they have been doing|1 Sorry my bad 11 million of people over 65|0 Capitalism Dont spend money when theres no benefits for corporations|1 Ya we arent stopping this Buckle up baby|1 Theres 330 million people in the USdoesnt sound like a surplus to me|1 Not everyones privileged enough to just not go to work People need money to survive and cant get that money if they dont work|0 Your president is on record saying that he didnt want bad numbersYep Who wants bad numbers on this People cant get testedWrong People are being tested There was a supply problem as we all know Its being addressed No test no count no problemWrong Its a big problem particularly for healthcare workersBut back to the main idea The points that I responded to above are all just poorly constructed snipes that attempt to divert from the main idea of Chinas responsibility for the Wuhan Virus|0 Im in self quarantine as of Thursday evening Two weeks too late but I hope Im clean Some day well get tests As soon as money and politics get out of the way|1 Pelosi will likely be dead tooWellnow we may have AOC as president in DecemberFinallya socialist Americas|0 Well a large part of this thread turned into a shtshow The vast majority of priests are committed to doing good and I would trust this would be an extremely devastating thing to them to be a part of just like it would be to any of us if we were to accidentally be involved with transmission of the virus Read the news folks its happening all across the world and US in conference rooms centers doctors offices and airports planes schools nursing homes Until we start isolating quarantining this will continue If the hateful people here cannot understand this and feel sorrow and compassion humanity really is in deep trouble|0 Luckily I live in Ohio and weve pretty much been ahead of everybody|1 Common sense precautions like allowing work from home setting up test booths like in Korea being more strict on quarantine not botching the testing NJ still has presumptive positives for days because CDC is dragging its feet playing down the symptoms from the government encouraging people to work with sickness ETC I dont need to list these out in this sub because everyone here already knows|1 I bought 12 packs in early february because I saw all of this coming and TP doesnt expireIts not panic buying its having enough for a large family to not have to go to the store for 8 or so months|0 No they have only advised this They are not enforcing it So many people are carrying on completely as normal Look out the window in the UK and people are still busying about In those other countries there are far fewer people out on the streets minglingThe fact they have only advised it means that if businesses shut to let their workers stay home the business wont be able to claim on insurance so they have to keep their workers there Workers who want to isolate and stay safe wont be supported by government if they go home so they are forced to choose between maybe getting the virus or passing it on and definitely losing their livelihoodSo people are not actually closing pubs and other venues people are still working in them and people are still going to them because people do not get that this is really serious because the government is not taking this seriously because its all just voluntary and theres absolutely NO protection for businesses or workers to allow them to isolate|0 Ive made as little as 800month in previous jobs I am not well off by any means but many of the same people that are complaining about how little they make still carry around 1000 cell phones with 100month phone plans subscribe to multiple streaming services spend 12 for a fancy beer or coffee on a regular basis and then say they have no money left over at the end of their paycheck I dont feel sorry for someone with a cellphone a netflix account a car payment etc that says they cant save any money When I changed jobs to a lesser paying job with a two year progression to higher pay I went as far as shutting off my home phone and internet to make ends meet and didnt even own a cellphone Some of the things commonly considered necessities arent even close to qualifying as one Living beyond your means does not qualify as an emergency|0 The fact that China is so intent on pinning it on the US really confirms that these ccp fucks created a bioweapon and are trying to escape blame for accidentally unleashing it|0 Yes thats pretty much the point|1 Im not concerned as much about the street as the subways It is common during mornings and evenings on certain subway lines for people to be packed in so close together that there literally is no more space for any more people to fit in subway cars Sometimes people sneeze Sometimes people cough It is literally impossible to distance yourself from people who do Everyone has to hold on to a something for balance knowing that dozens of other people earlier that day had held the same thing for the same reason Its a viruss wet dream Add to that that almost no one wears masks and many dont cover their mouths Finally it is simply impossible for the vast majority of people who work in NYC to take anything but public transportation|1 Now is not the time to argue jurisdiction Simply put its the safest thing that can be done|1 Manufacturing people get no love huh Its like we dont exist just doing manual labor silently in the background Shout out to all my upper lower class homies|1 Yep unless a vaccine has been out for over 10 years its not worth the risk|1 Im in Grampian A couple of people have heard the infected person is in BuckieThat could be a wild rumour though but Ive heard it from two seperate people|0 Holy Shit|0 R0 of W H A T N O WTHATS BIG NUMBER |1 How it is related to CCP dumbass Government handling situation pretty well|1 It doesnt matter honestly Every nation that gets hit hard by this virus will be utterly destroyed economically Unemployment will skyrocket Small businesses will be devastated We are looking at an entire new era in a short while|0 Same in Costa Rica They are not doing controls at the airport smh|0 I wish somebody would make a positive sticky post to help people feel better Let people with covid know that they wont die and help anxious people like me to feel better about it|1 Retirement homes assisted living facilities would seem to have some similarities to cruise ships in terms of shared living spaces and living in close proximity with others That doesnt bode well given what happened on the Princess cruise ship or that religious community in Korea If we start seeing widespread community transmission in the USCanada Ill encourage my parents to move fulltime into their summer place theyre not rich just a winterized cabin in the woods Not ideal but better than a retirement apartment complex that is regularly full of sickcoughing people as it is|0 Spanish flu was over 100 years ago and we didnt even know what it was being caused by The flu hadnt even been properly discovered at the time |0 Uhyou must be menacing with your iron lets see how you deal with drones if you decide to fight back a normal thing as FORFEITING WEAPONS|0 Its not just him Very few states are taking this seriously enough Its likely way too late already Every day helps but we are already looking at a shit storm all across the country|0 Oh okay thank you I did not know that I may buy a couple|1 I dont think this is a good idea only because then we would be taking health care away from those who need it the most What we should be doing is closing schools and stopping all large gatherings People should limit their shopping and time spent in the public in general until the summer Hopefully the summer can slow the spread given the H2H spread in Australia Im become more doubtful of that and we can have a few more months to learn how to treat this better and prepare before the fall|1 Americans are castrated theyll do nothing to punish this or stop it from happening again|1 Remember this the next time you support their movies and music and sports|1 Singapore is shit tier at actual democratic freedoms but its a rich city state so everyone thinks its the best place ever The entire European continent has better democracy than Singapore|1 The markets are being artificially pumped to stay looking positive as that in and of itself keeps it more positive than if they just left it to crash The stocks are entirely fictional keep in mind so a lie is all they need to appear functional|1 Boomers everywhere will be devastated when GenXers and millennials team up to save their lives|0 You need other people to not get sick too you know|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Yes|1 France is doing the sameMost of ppls around me and at my job says its just like a flu Flu kills more etc When officials warn them about the danger of the virus they say that its dramatizationThey dont realize how dangerous it isPpls with symptoms dont want to self quarantine They keep doing massive meetings and they even decided to not test ppls with lights symptoms so it mean a lot of ppls will have it and stay undetected and will keep spreading it all aroundA disaster is coming here For sure|0 I totally understand that many people does not believe news came out from China especially after Wuhan and Hubei local government tried hard to hide the truth at the beginningOn the other hand I feel at this time the numbers isnt necessarily fake as the government has had a hard time dealing with the consequences of hiding the cases We will know pretty soon anyway The virus is super contagious and hospitals would be packed with patients again if its actually not contained|1 If she and her parents continue to travel for those two weeks they can catch it at any time and bring it back to you during incubationIts really hard to run an effective quarantineGood luck|1 some cities are closed but nothing we could care aboutOn the one hand I constantly marvel at just how alien the European mindset is to me On the other hand the situation that happened in Pompeii totally makes sense now|1 I think they spelled Months wrong|0 Why for COVID19 and not anything else Just another political stunt while the media is hot for COVID19 Oh youre dying from some other disease Sorry bro it doesnt have a cool name that we can put in the headlines I guess youre out of luckPoliticians truly never let a crisis go to waste|1 No we renamed Russia to Poor Merica|0 17 of cases need hospitalizationSo pretty much 1 in 6 or so people that get it will be hospitalized I dont like those odds|1 I feel you My dad also doesnt listen he is 74 Im not as worried for him as I am my 97 year old grandma who he visits Today he wants to go to IKEA I tried to get him not to but he wont listen So now Im going with to try to make the trip as quick as possible|1 The low happiness scale for Singapore is attributed to the rat race that is created due to meritocracy There are so many mechanisms that you can have a say in how things are ranadministered you can even run some things yourselfFor example every neighborhood comprises of a community club similar to a mayors office where anyone can come to help out Most of the governmentfunded events are held there you can help the ministers with their weekly meetthepeople session You can apply to the community club to work and serve the people You can work with the union and voice out the concerns for your own industrysector You can ask ministers on twitter for advice on anything even asking them why they chose these decisions You can vote them out if the decisions were not on par You can run for the opposition if you feel like Money is not the main reason for them to answer your concerns unlike most other democracies|1 From WikipediaThe Ministry of Equality SpanishhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishlanguage Ministerio de Igualdad is a departmenthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishgovernmentdepartments of the Government of SpainhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGovernmentofSpain responsible for the proposal and execution of the governments policy on equality with a focus on making the equality between men and women real and effective as well as prevention and eradication of different forms of violence against womenhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiViolenceagainstwomen The departments roles also include eradication of all kind of discrimination by sexhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSexism racialhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiRacism and ethnichttpsenwikipediaorgwikiXenophobia origin religionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiReligiousdiscrimination or ideology sexual orientationhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHomophobia gender identityhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTransphobia agehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAgeism disabilityhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAbleism or any other personal or social condition or circumstances|1 That is a measurement based on confirmed cases which is going to show a strong bias towards cases that are bad enough to end up in the hospital Its also not as simple as 15 of people simply die from this because that number is affected by how well a healthcare system can respond provide care If a healthcare system cant respond with enough treatment more people are likely to die raising the fatality rate but the strength of the virus itself doesnt change Im certainly not trying to downplay the risks of COVID19 and its potential to kill millions in this country But comparing the outcome to something postapocalyptic like that of a hurricane misses a lot of the big picture regular infrastructure doesnt get destroyed and most cases are still going to be relatively mild so most people are still going to be able to work once they recover Natural disasters like a hurricane also happen all at once while diseases move more slowly through a population not everyone gets sick at once nor does everyone get sick at all and different parts of the country will be affected at different times Quarantines and lockdowns are imposed out of necessity to prevent deaths from lack of available hospital beds But they are selfimposed and dont mean that utilities will stop working or every supply chains will be cut off|0 Well yeah thats rmemes I wouldnt expect them to be as knowledgeable as the sub thats literally about the virus|1 Well theyll be absolutely virus free by then|1 I get that there is individual risk for medical personnel however if we provide this advice to all healthcare workers addressing COVID19 patients there would be no healthcare available to people who need it|0 No its not Kids will be vectors for spreading the disease quickly amongst family clustersSomething must be done now|0 Please call ahead and tell them your symptoms first Dont just rock up and risk passing whatever you have to other vulnerable people at the hospital|0 Definitely surreal Yeah I can understand how that worries you with your husband on the front line of this Takes a lot of courage to do what hes doing and I have the utmost respect for him helping people Its definitely an honorable job|1 No some people do what they want Others scrape by month to month and then get shit on for daring to buy one nice thing for themselves every few monthsImportant difference|0 No Stop alarmingWe dont know how long was he working while having symptoms if at all even As most carriers start having symptoms on 35 days and there is still no certainty that asymptomatic carriers can infect people on such low interaction contacts such as a taxi lift we cant certainly cant assure anyone thats ridden in that taxi could be infected The taxi driver in Singapore has NO record of infecting nobody Stop alarming people|0 This is so fucking wholesome even thinking about them doing this makes me wanna tear up GJ ITALY GJ HOSPITAL WORKERS Keep up the awesome work stay safe and I hope that everyone gets well soon|1 4 hours in the ED Did they isolate you or were you with the masses for the entire time I hope it turns out negative for you|0 Double karma The Oldest trick in the book|0 My answer would be All of my grandparents are dead I told my mother to wash her hands I am extremely unlikely to die from the new coronavirus This is nothing new any elder people are at risk every year from getting the flu an older version of the coronavirus or any other sickness of the respiratory system and dying It has just never been in the media The new coronavirus is just a mutation that is a bit stronger than the usual ones 3 I estimate the mortality to be around 03 05 There must be tens of thousands of weak cases around Every year about 4 millions die of respiratory illnesses Probably this year there will be less because of all the precautions due to the coronavirus We should burn less coal or at least filter it and not smoke|0 Dunno Probably planning on being home with their kids and now none of them go at school or work for the next two weeks here at least So extra is warranted Mass hysteria is a bit much Thankfully I got the m my extra TP last week lol I wasnt waiting till it got bad|0 This mans heart is broken you can hear it even if you dont understand it So so sad|0 This world is long over due for a reset Peace at last|1 Good luck and stay safe|1 Because those types of people only get their news from Rush Limbaugh and think all this is a conspiracy to discredit Trumps presidency I have those friends and family too Its infuriating to me|0 YupAll is well pls no panic|0 Panic is worse then the virus Indeed|0 Thanks I have no intention of selling it nor use it in anything but emergencies Still its good to know in case an emergency does happen|1 I think but not sure the equality minister is a tool that lets you adjust the bass and treble frequencywise|0 Ive done that for several people not a gift basket of choice|0 Is anything hell just wipe out half our forces and well regenerate them the next day|0 very helpful links thank you|1 Its not made up you just cant control the dosage which is dangerous when it comes to adverse effects|0 You really need to stop mainlining Fruity Pebbles dude that cant be good for you longterm|0 Common advice seems to be to leave the masks for those who really need it So not healthy high school students|0 Do you think a business owner has an unlimited income Most of them have a serious chance of closing their doors right now which means a massive amount of jobs lost|0 Wut Stop saying fucking shit we all know its a conspiracy to fragilise Trumps power s|0 A criminal undertaking|0 Somebody gets 2x credit card points for dining |1 It already is in their hands The CDC functions nothing like the zombie movies made us believe Its the local governments that call the shots and take action|0 Interesting that|1 We will but we can never close the border into Canada to Canadians like we literally cant We are asking 3 million Canadians abroad to come home right now Thats a much bigger issue than the risk of Americans storming our border and there is nothing we can do about it|1 Wake up call They would love for it to go as low as possible to buy it all up at a discount They arent struggling They can wait|1 And Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine are both approved for other indications|1 Saw this exact number in an industry specific trade data note this morning feeling like its overly optimistic|1 Oh no should I stop doing this with strangers on the streets|0 Ill stay in my car and do drive thru I promise|0 HMMM VERY CONVENIENT THAT THEY CAN JUST OPEN SHIT UP NO BIG DEAL|0 There are diseases that are deadly to adults that are relatovely harmless to childrenExample chickenpox|1 Speaking as someone who previously thought this was no big deal I was wrong I think many people are just genuinely misinformed and do not understand the difference between this and the regular flu I previously thought Well this sucks for people who are high risk They will have to be really careful and I will have to be careful around them but it will blow over just like the flu does every year I was wrong and so are they but I dont think its just because people dont care|0 So glad to hear that the baby made a full recovery Still scares me though as a father to a three year old|1 I blame all that stupid keep calm and carry on tat people keep buying over the years|0 It most likely is comparable unless you are above 68 yo or have a comprimised immune system That still doesnt make it a nonthreat A more contagious deadly flu with no vaccine is scary as hell Mostly for the elderly Thats why the belgian government has advised people to stay far away from their grandparents and visitations to elderly homes have been prohibited My grandmother is only allowed to see one person who has to be careful and do her shopping|0 Laundry Folded Dick FappedShower Had|0 Thank you Theres no need for additional sources It makes sense to me that a fast test isnt 100 reliable|1 Greatest country in the world huh|1 The problem with that mentality is that many more people have coronavirus than have been confirmed to have it Hell at this point literally ANYONE could have it Thats why social distancing is so important If we avoid confirmed cases great Itll slow the spread But not enough to make any impact Assume everyone has it and avoid them all Wash your hands several times a day Dont touch your face This bit is REALLY difficult with allergy season coming but its mecessary Thats how youll stay safeEdit I wanted to clarify Dont demonize people because you should assume theyre sick but maintain a fair distance and be cautious of where their hands and face are|0 If this is happening in a city in rural America imagine what it must be like in LA SF NY and other cities where several other diseases are already running wildIf you think Cuomos New Rochelle containment zone is anything other than a quarantine camp you need to quit drinking|1 Anyone that Juuls know that the formula for whatever the fuck was in Mango pods was worth billions of dollars|0 Please show relevant studies wrt this virus when making such claims|1 IDK to me this reads as an I told you so you shouldve given me my funding when I askedI reckon the US army will have to show how good they are at pulling together emergency unit hospitals like the chinese just did I reckon you could easily trick Trump into it if you make a contest with China out of the issue|1 Paying rent isnt just doing some other fuckers busywork Its a means to having housing You said it yourselfif you dont pay they could put you on the street in the middle of a pandemic That is very much a major part of ones own survivalBelieve me I think that the way landlords take advantage of tenants is horrible But its a system that many people have to be a part of and they dont get to ignore it just cause its badAnd like I said youve got other bills you have to pay that you need income for If you miss those you could fall into debt and damage your credit score which can affect your ability to get loans for yearsThats not just stupid its borderline suicidalHeres where is saying you should focus on empathizing Of course people should selfquarantine if they have the means to But for some people their jobs arent willing to pay for sick days or even give them time offand losing a job as well not working for weeksmonths when you are in a vulnerable position can totally destroy your lifeWhy not direct your energy into advocating for paid sick leave for these folks|0 He will claim fake news unless its been endorsed by CNN|0 I am in a city with a confirmed couple of cases I am someone who drives around to 14 different houses a day I was told we are working until told otherwise Half my houses today require me to go inside so stupid and reckless While it isnt perfect glad I have a reusable face mask|0 Finally someone with sense Throwable paper is not a solution for these troubled times|0 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17708 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices41313 uMac4cheeze at 2 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Yes we do|1 There are but its a minority now Thanks god|1 Presumably yes|1 To you its the same really youd be dead in both cases its all about people that are still alive D|0 Just cancel it|0 Why are politicians dont give a damn about thisMaybe an unpopular answer but its because they have hardly any pressure on them Theres no risk of the government of say Finland being completely trashed by the international media for a lessthanperfect response to the virus Go check out some international news sites and youll find plenty of coverage about the US response but next to nothing about other third party countries|0 Dont fuck over the people who handle your food|1 Careful what you wish for the actual message from Doug Ford last Thursday was go out travel enjoy your March break|1 For fucks sake Im pissed about this|0 Why are you speculating Read the damn article Its that the lack of flights is causing a lot of difficulty so theres a backlog Theyre still accepting stuff in the US its stuff from other countries theyve stopped for now|0 There is no proof whatsoever that the Chinese numbers are fake The WHO is on record stating that they believe the numbers are real People refuse to believe Chinas numbers are real because they cannot accept that the country managed the crisis so effectively|0 Absolute rubbish i wish this fake shit would not get posted|0 They should be half way to their destination by now Our factories outside China can make the less advanced products at a higher price so some of our shipments will be delayed by about 3 weeks but our advanced products ironically can only be made in China and are delayed indefinitely Other companies in our space are doing worse because they only have factories in China|0 The customer lives up to 9 days after Amazon delivery Thats not toooo bad I suppose|1 Yea they seems really care about the maps in the gameI guess Im not surprised given the amount of territorial disputes China has|1 Damn man that is terrible What industry do you work in these reports have me freaking out|0 Its funny how desperation goes around full circle People demand cheap goods so they can increase their quality of life which means wages have to stay low somewhere else then these people have less disposable income so they demand lower prices on everything else and now were all stuck with shit wages even in the greatest expansion of profits America has ever seen|0 So if this is right there are circa 600 people with Covid 19 in Seattle right now and non of them have symptoms sufficient enough for them to even seek medical treatment either this points to the gene sequencing and conclusions being erroneous or there really isnt much to worry about from this virus|0 The 19 million figure comes from OECD but here are the other sources I foundAccording to baidu wuhan has 908 million listed under the family register systerm at the end of 2019 and another couple million of outsiders httpsbaikebaiducomitemE6ADA6E6B189106764httpsbaikebaiducomitemE6ADA6E6B189106764The wikipedia chinese version says there are 1089 million people in 2017 httpszhwikipediaorgwikiE6ADA6E6B189E5B882httpszhwikipediaorgwikiE6ADA6E6B189E5B882Heres another an article from xinhua in 2019 about how the resident population in wuhan surpassed 11 million httpwwwhbxinhuanetcom20190326c1124281764htmhttpwwwhbxinhuanetcom20190326c1124281764htmI think its safe to assume wuhan has more or less 11 million people according to most sources The OECD source is an outlier and I dont know how they got that figure I prefer to stick to chinese sources like xinhua and baidu if you can read chinese|1 I cant believe they keep shaking hands on national television lmao|1 Quick question Im assuming worst case when I get this the hospitals will be overwhelmed So it is up to me to treat myself I bought some Mucinex DM Guaifenesin Dextromethorphan and an Albuterol inhaler I had been diagnosed with asthma one time a decade ago but dont do anything about it Do you think either of these things will help me if I get infected and cant get medical attention Or perhaps more importantly is it possible either of these can make matters worse Any other OTC things youd recommend Thank you|1 I keep harping on this in this thread but again these numbers are not correct The old dont have a survival rate of 90 This is based on hospitalized people Many more do not need to be hospitalized therefore the death rate in the general population is likely to be lower|0 So what he invented was a better PCR I doubt its as advertised PCR has been around since the 80s I doubt he invented a better way to do it in like the last week|1 Theres a reason Mitt Romney has started to sound like Andrew YangIts funny how Yangs 1000 a month UBI for basic needs was seen as a wild idea a couple months ago now you have the former Republican nominee for President suggesting it Almost like its a good idea economically|1 Live in Texas can confirm that all local news sources here have reported 1 case of COVID19 which was found in San AntonioThis matches the data from Johns Hopkins but Im confused as to why Johns Hopkins is reporting it The list their sources as the WHO CDC ECDC NHC and DXY but as far as I can tell none of those sources are reporting a case in San AntonioNot sure who to believe at this point Texas news agencies definitely reported a confirmed case in San Antonio|1 Cant lose an election if youre dead fucking smrt|0 So you mean theyre improving the criteria by which people are checked|1 I believe I heard that a man in Chicago tested positive for both L and S strains|1 What a fucking moron 2 Months Too Late No Fucking Excuse What a massive douchebag|0 This was shared by two people on my facebook and they both claim this is just a flubig overrreaction|1 Ive noticed the not taking it seriously correlates strongly with level of education|1 The same woman spread to all those peopleOh man She is going to get a lot of death threats|0 She gave a big eye roll to the situation and declared that it is being blown way out of proportion At this point its obvious that the virus will go through a large part of the US population Do you have another appointment with your surgeon Id bring it up and ask again in some weeks time because the situation will not be pretty|0 wearing mask is an effective way prevent you from touching your mouth and nose|1 This is not their path to redemption wtf Im indifferent about firing a few mayors or what not but path to redemption Hell no|0 How has Italy fucked us This is Chinas doing they fucked us|0 Wipes Disposable gloves a pair of safety goggles|1 Thank you for being honest with us and your service to those in need|1 If it gets as bad as it potentially could I imagine they wont be having overnight stays for patients over 90 SpO2 Probably send you home with ibuprofen and antibiotics and tell you to come back if it worsens This plus flu season and everything else will have hospitals and ICUs maxed out|0 I cant see because of a paywall but this strikes me as unlikely Anyhow if you are paranoid enough to think the Washington Post is fake news then you are part of the problem here|0 Oh fuck I read it with that voice|0 httpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusnewslatestdeathsukinfectionflua9360271htmlhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar02scotlandsays250000couldbehospitalisedifcoronavirusspreads80 seems to be the standard worst case assuming no proper action is taken as per my original post|0 Election is coming up if they dont they will lose|1 Yeah maybe tell em to stay home And we can do likewise|1 Yep one of my roommates is still insisting that hed rather get Coronavirus than the flu I dont feel safe in my own house now|0 back in January 20th the day China start to give warning to the whole country some british and HK research also predicted there were 13001700 ish people had been infected nobody believe them back then and Wuhan start to take it seriously since Jan 24west coasters take care yourself|0 It is entirely a preemptive plan to check their ability to work from home in case theres and outbreak Thats exactly what they said theyre doing|1 Ohio Cincinnati Things are getting pretty crazy Everyone is taking this very very seriously mostly because Dewine shut us down but also because theres tension in the air and the reaction to the schoolbargym etc closures caused a mad dash for supplies Grocery stores are empty but you can find things at other smaller retailers No toilet paper anywhere I went to three stores and checked stock at 2 others all are running very low on frozen and canned vegetables if they have any No pasta to be found Red meat and chicken is gone Stores cannot keep up with demand Local store employees report there is stock of most items but not much and what they do have is on the floor in the mornings Ill be waking up at 7 am to shop for my familyMy friends especially in the service industry are panicked Most everyone is off work or expecting to stop work soon The highways are empty yet everything is moving slowerToday while attempting to make a run for supplies I saw people wearing gloves masks what appeared to be extra layers of clothes and one woman even had her own Lysol A friend came to drop off some stuff I left at his house and he wore a mask when he came in People are most definitely panicking We expect more regulations tomorrow or the next day Everyone is prepared to hunker down I know Im afraid not that I wont eat or be able to pay my bills but that we arent safe and that our neighbors will turn on each other Bleak and pessimistic maybe but as a mom my guard is ALLL THE WAY UP right now|0 According to the complaints of a survivor the medical graduate student 24 years old from Wuhan University she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care She said that if she fell asleep she might die because she had lost her natural breath x200BTerrifying|1 Looks like he will likely avoid being prosecuted on a technicality The language of the law could benefit Mr Colvin Gov Bill Lee of Tennessee declared a state of emergency on March 12 activating the pricegouging law The Colvin brothers bought all of the sanitizer and wipes in question before that date and Mr Colvin said he did not sell anything after itI hope the AG finds some other way to prosecute the scum|0 Really Perhaps hes not up to date on what the chief medical officer announced this morning lol|1 Say you want to shoot your entire neighbourhood because you are radicalized and youll probably quarantined for at least 2 weeks|0 See in a normal house your drain pipe from the sinks showers and floor traps would be separated from the toilet sewage drain pipeswhat First time i hear it The sewage pipes all join the same main pipe to go out of the house Thats why you do utraps to prevent smellspread|1 For all Trump hater hes probably gonna died or be infected by coronavirus in the coming daysweek and hes gonna the very first great president ever to die from a very bad disease during his perfect presidency|0 Exactly When youre working 6 patients to 1 nurse BEFORE this but people dont understand And they dont want to They want the Hospital Hilton experience And keyboard warriors will bitch you out as if theyve done your job and know better Look at the right wingers thanking the nurses for actually doing their jobs Let me explain how dealing with the public works Jesus Christ if you want it have it And then you put on your scrubs and go in anyway In all the years I have been in the field caring for people 10 years as a social worker 3 as a MSNRN the last 6 days I have been asked to do more and treated worse than I ever have|0 Watching all of this unfold since January has not helped me Im good at research I could have gotten up to speed in a few daysYes we stocked up early and I warned all of my family and friends but its been weeks of anxiety and fear that Im sure has had an effect on my immune system Ive spent every night checking this sub and twitter Its like watching a slowmotion trainwreck coming straight at us but I cant look away because Im scared for our future and I have my sweet 6 year old girl sleeping in the room next door I want to see her grow up and I have preexisting conditions Knowing this entire time Trump and his administration would fuck everything upAll of this on top of sounding like a crazy person to everyone around me My dad laughing at me and my mom telling me to relax when I begged them to listen My husband frustratingly telling me to just make a list and well get it Being able to tell them I told you so is not worth itNone of it will actually prevent us from dying if we catch it Sorry but I wish I had all that time back like the majority of other people|1 Did you know that semen is a natural vaccine if swallowed regularly|1 Im sure this is all very well thought out and the rules are ready to rock in an orderly fashion|1 Lol you are not willing to criticize your country in any way hey Sounds quite cultish tbhTo say the healthcare system is the best when people drown in debt over anything and people are scared to go see a doctor is laughableAnd to think all innovation comes from the US is also laughable other countries have developed so much as well|1 Unfortunately Italy made them too late however for the first time Codogno one of the first areas to be quarantined has reported 0 new infectionshttpwwwansaitsitonotizietopnews20200310zerocontagiacodognoeprimavolta74babe60e4a74e07b8ca94016f24b5b4html This is why the measures need to be taken as soon as possible this is also supported by evidence from history Philadelphia vs St Louis during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemichttpspbstwimgcommediaES25yr6U8AAtgU6jpgI dont mean direct advice from other countries were just contradicting their proven methods in how were deciding to handle this And dont get me wrong Im not trying to disparage the medical community in this country just puzzled by the decision making of people at the top as are other members of the medical community such as the lancet editor and exPHOI agree practising good hygiene is essential and self isolation is good However social distancing is also critical especially as people are most likely to spread the disease during the incubation period ie before theyre symptomatichttpswwwtheguardiancomscience2020mar12coronavirusmostinfectionsspreadbypeopleyettoshowsymptomsscientists|1 There is also the issue that drugs are not magic and often are ineffective or worse damaging to body especially without something else they can work against Maybe they work for a handful but hurt a million others giving any infection they have more chance to hurt or kill them|0 Ill check on that The news about closings different part of state broke yesterday I think they visited the district just now or very recently If you get anymore news please lmk|0 yes thats exactly why I am no longer friends with this person|1 Theyre healthy theyll be fine|1 Whoops my bad|0 It feels too close for comfort for me but aside from yall Im alone in my concerns My friends were on the previous Grand Princess cruise The county dept of health Princess cruises contacted them by phone but since it was more than 14 days ago theyre not candidates for further follow up My Ma flew into Ontario airport the same day the WuhanMarch AFB evacuees were being sent home after their 14 days the same day there was unclear news of one of them testing positive being released from a hospital in San Diego at a point where there was word from China that it was airborne It is my opinion well be hearing Spanish Flu even more over the coming weeksI dont think theres anything else this can be compared to for bad luck virulence bad decisions Its undecided whether the Spanish Flu came from America or China Its unclear how it got its name but I think it might be because Spain was one of the only countries that wasnt censoring the news instead was reporting it in gory detail The King of Spain had it so did Woodrow Wilson That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach Huxleyhttpswwwnzheraldconzworldnewsarticlecfmcid2objectid12307276httpswwwnzheraldconzworldnewsarticlecfmcid2objectid12307276httpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishfluhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishfluhttpswwwhistorycomnewswhywasitcalledthespanishfluhttpswwwhistorycomnewswhywasitcalledthespanishfluhttpswwwgoodreadscomquotes16293thatmendonotlearnverymuchfromthelessonshttpswwwgoodreadscomquotes16293thatmendonotlearnverymuchfromthelessons|0 Look I love my grandma but shes said many times that shes ready to go her dementia is getting worse and shes forgetting more and more its becoming a major financial strain on my family and her body is still just fine Should the worst happen we gotta look for the silver linings I guess|0 This pandemic is the worst time in our history Right now we are all living in glass houses and throwing stones Be a part of the solution and not a part of the problem|0 Pretty accurate|1 Its no different than antivirals are for any other virus For most people it means nothing Theyll be fine Pregnant women and the elderly are at risk but are always monitored for reboundThese are exceptions 4 of them were given Tamiflu which i dont think anywhere sees as indicated on its own now one was given remdesivir which could reflect a million things in a drug still in trial and one was just described as antivirals so we cant conclude muchThats the bulk of confirmed cases of symptomatic and asymptomatic relapse So far as I know theres only two left in Hong Kong And Id be stunned if they didnt take them tooIt happens It happens with influenza all the time Its just not news then|0 The only masks worth wearing are made in Singapore Im not sure they have the ability to scale as quickly as everyone thinks I hope you have some just in case the shit hits the fan|1 Should someone make a support discord or somethingSure it sucks but its worth talking about and keeping informed and hopeful Be prepared do your best and have no regrets Lets all make it out of this together|1 welcome to the US where everythings made up and normal folk dont matter|1 Tell that to Amazon who increased their hand sanitizer brand price from 4 to 8 before going out of stock|1 Yes She is a hero|1 Infected American In Japanese Hospital httpsmfacebookcomjerriljorgensenutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 Dutton is easy top 5 most hated pollies in the countryScary part is he almost became PM his faction started a spill to get rid of a much more popular PM but while they killed the PM Dutton the absolute cunt lost the vote to replace him|0 You are correct in that initial assumption of a competent response The difference is Democrats changed their view based on the reality of the governments response whereas Republicans have notOnly 43 of Democrats were very or somewhat confident in the US governments ability to respond down from 75 in February |1 Great and if Charter crashes because of poor policies millions in the us will be without internet and communications during a massive pandemic while they try to repair the system with a skeleton crew|1 Relaxation and peace of mind may be important|1 Yeah it is|1 Hahaha so Soviet hospitals were paradise No that mustve been the CIA somehow|1 You realize the overwhelming majority of deaths in China are cremated right That the normal flu kills hundreds of thousands a year|0 We dont know how many of those deaths were hastened by triage lack of care due to crowding or unmeasured Coronavirus Moreover we dont know how many lives were saved due to quarantine and control Furthermore a much higher percentage of Covid cases suffer permanent lung damage|0 Yes yes Im aware of breast milks antibody content and how the milk is customized to whatever virus the baby has The thought behind my comment was itd be great to see proof that it is present in this case I wonder how protective and beneficial it could be if breast milk that contains the antibodies was given to the infected Recovered moms or moms who are producing milk antibodies due to an infected infant could possibly pump their milk and give to others|1 Welcome to Costco I love you|1 You have way WAY too much trust in government officials With an incubation period of 2 weeks its unlikely these people will be kept in isolation that long|1 So true sorry Tom|1 Theres no proof of that whatsoever|0 Instacart and grocery delivery had multi day queues last week and customers had to tip well to get their orders fulfilled|1 Shaqtin a fool again This mf better pay CV bills|0 So you are denying what they are saying about testing and hospitals in the US about to get run over with patients|0 Best wishes I hope you feel better soon|1 That sounds terrible I am glad you made it out Okay|1 an Asian woman attacks a black man and then he attacks her back|0 Ok yeah of course on an individual level its great but in terms of this being a good thing for the virus I dont think it is It just means more people are getting the virus which means that the number of people who recover is going to continue going up just like the number of deaths will keep going up|1 I know right I guess you have to hope you get there quick enough to get a choice Link for ridiculousness httpswww9newscomaunationalcoronavirussupermarketsbuyinglimitswoolworthscolesigapanicbuying1b87705813904aafa4bfda5b78d0e9a1httpswww9newscomaunationalcoronavirussupermarketsbuyinglimitswoolworthscolesigapanicbuying1b87705813904aafa4bfda5b78d0e9a1|1 Canned goods and shelf stable last for years|1 Dude if the Shadow Plague vampire showed up IRL right now hed take one look at the world yell Fuck this and go back to sleep|0 Not gonna lie hunter gatherer gave me a well needed laugh this morning What a fucking moron|1 Only 30 of the lights seem to be on Unless this was filmed at 2 AM Likely a clue that most people were able to leave Wuhan before quarantine was imposed or are finding ways to sneak out at night|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rnegativewithgold I know were supposed to be compassionate in times like these but honestly fuck you As a healthcare worker these 11httpswwwredditcomrNegativeWithGoldcommentsfjlw64iknowweresupposedtobecompassionateintimesnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Wouldve been a lot cooler if they did this BEFORE a global pandemic struck|0 If the doubling rate is indeed every five days some people have noted 2 or 25 days then there are likely between 500k1m cases right now Next week itll be between 12m Thus why the governments dont want to count numbers anymore|0 Hell they could be there for Scooby snacks for all I care Im just glad they are there|1 This statement is factually incorrect The graphs do not suggest that at allItaly has seen exponential growth since almost the first caseFrance is showing a slowing rate in the number of new casesUK Germany are showing approximately linear increases over the last week or so|1 Sorry for the stupid question But say a patient takes these two drugs at onset of the more intense symptoms shortness of breath etc Would that have been enough time for the body to create antibodies to fight the virus to make you immune to future infection|0 httpsblogtimesunioncombillgatesandvaccines442httpsblogtimesunioncomchessbillgatesandvaccinesoursavior442fbclidIwAR1FDn4TBeXlJ0hwbMKMVWxWrch6kH245VxH1qIsJIWC4kEE9i3TV4B4Please read this piece of satire Its eyeopening about Bill Gates and how he and other billionaires own the companies making and profiting off the Covid19 vaccines Ever hear of Event 201 Youll want to know about it Did you know Bill Gates owns a nuclear power plant in China How about that he owns the meatlessfood companies Impossible and Beyond Plus he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein All real actual current mainstreammedia links included PLEASE SHARE WITH EVERYONE|1 Oh no doubt|0 Tories want the NHS to crumble They dont care how many poor people die Simple|0 And thats the second mistake College isnt the only form of postsecondary education Just look at nursing certifications it doesnt require a degree and has several paths Im saying that specialized education should not be left to die while an overbloated general education slowed down by bureaucratic action just grows by the idea that education is an absolute good and can cover all evilI mean take a doctor and split their job into half a dozen people with specialized training a MD shouldnt be needed to run a simple blood test|0 Would be useful to see the sample size in each groupthe 80 fatality rate is scary but if the sample is 15 people we dont need to panic|1 Some of us that very much can work from home and have sick coworkers coming to the office so they can prove they are sick are still not permitted to work from home because our companies will only do that once they are forced Yes some jobs cannot be done remotely but were not even catching that low bar of people that could easily WFH with the current approach in the US|0 Yeah I get that if I lived alone far from any police Id probably want to be well armed as well|1 Welcome to socialism|1 As we were driving home from the hospital they announced our schools are closed Im so glad But I feel for the people who work paycheck to paycheck and dont have funds to weather this economic storm|1 The coming days will be very important for south east Asia I only hope what happened in South Korea wont happen in this region httpswwwnstcommynewsnation20200357448414500msianstablighgathering40testpositivecovid19|1 Note the caveat on the siteAny increases above expected could be due to changes in healthcare seeking behavior people might be more likely to go to the ED now with less severe symptoms because they are aware of the COVID19 epidemicWhile part of the increase is likely due to true cases I suspect theres a fair number of people going to the hospital just in case who would not have otherwise|1 Well Id be careful about this conclusion We have a 38yo previously healthy who has been in ICU for 10 days I dont exclude that there might be some other young people in the ICU among those 351|1 Good news for my mom who has blood type OWhile also have diabetes at the same time|1 The remainder of the cases were American citizens on the diamond princess cruise ship and they were brought back to the US|1 lol|1 It seems like it would be possible to model different containment methodstravel bans vs screening vs|1 Schools are also balancing their responsibility to their most vulnerable students Not every child has a safe home to return to Not every child gets regular healthy meals outside of school Even in otherwise great households many families dont have highspeed internet at home This virus is laying bare the massive social disparities that are otherwise just under the surface|1 Good thing that epidemiology is not about opinion|1 There is a possibility that the disease might have mutated so much that the negativepositive test cannot detect it But that chance is almost near impossible and unless he is infected with actual coronavirus after the testing he is negative|0 Yeah its funny you couldnt ask for much more in a budget yet some people are determined to complain|1 People frequently insult me by making reference to their 401k But it just proves how much they dont understand me I dont even know how to check whats in my 401k And I dont think I contribute to it I care a lot about brokerage accounts though I think thats what theyre going for with the 401k thing Although my brokerage accounts are straight cash because I got short the world|1 Was it the same infected doctors that were sent home from Iran after it was determined that they were infected|0 Mark Cuban just gained more of my respect|1 Thats vile indeed For a country thats DIRECTLY affected by Chinas coronavirus its just plain evil to block them in such a global crisis Grow the fuck up Xi|0 this is it right here no one knows whats going to happen but if its anything wuhan they were all fine without really even prepping at all of course it depends on the country youre in though|1 Shit this reply has some strange smell|0 Yes but Im not criticizing your country or government As happened in Italy until people are directly menaced its hard to believe Also in Italy 10 days ago people was still saying that its like a normal flu|0 bravo bravo Italians please save more lifes|1 The mortality rate seems to drop if you are over 80 Why is this Is there a correlation to something else|0 jfc dude you dont have Coronavirus you have some kind of serious heart problem Go to a doctor ASAP|0 Give me a break shut the country down No Canada did nothing for over a week after community spread in Van We have done effectively nothing Yes USA is even worse but other countries are doing a far better job I just want our socalled leaders to lead and that means showing their plan and providing information in a timely matter|1 Puts them in front of most other countries Its a little reassuring for Ontario citizens I hope they dont need to use them all|1 Teachers like many people are worried about losing their jobs due to having what they think might just be a cold Its possible the teacher wanted to stay home but didnt have the ability to do so|0 Living in the state that is the birth place of the Republican party I dont think much help will be done here But the state mayor is a Democrat so maybe that will help|0 Thanks for your post thoughts and insight I personally hope the best for all those in Wuhan Every country gets stereotyped and its people categorized with unwarranted labels Thankfully many people understand that and also look past itThose spreading their nasty generalized opinions about the Chinese people that think people deserve this have too much hate for my likingI dont know how all this will continue to play out but to those right now being selfless helping each other and putting in the hard work and effort in Wuhan stay strong|1 Ill be happy when all domestic travel is banned before it needs to be We need early massive action to get ahead of whats coming Washington not far away from becoming the next Italy Read one hospital only has 4 days left of gloves We have a lot of cities not far behind Today was step 1 IF everything that was promised happens We need to keep taking steps that are ahead of the virus If you get into reactive mode the virus wins|1 MY GIRLFRIEND DIED OF CORONAVIRUS NOT JOKING NOT CLICKBAIT GONE WRONG AND SEXUAL|0 Nobody knows but we will know soon enough unfortunately|0 Would be acceptable to me as long as they cant come back until theres a vaccine|1 He can go fuck himself for disinformation and endangering peopleGood|0 Does anyone else see it as positive that the virus hasnt really spread out of Hubei Plus it seems like 1000 cases is when the hospitals start to back up and exacerbate the issue|1 someones salty lmao|1 Lol it doesnt matter the fact that you can even think to equate the two is asinine I feel that the country engaged in numerous I practices that are unethical to the point where of I think about it I get upset Sure fine whatever This is what you sound like thoughPerson 1 I have stage 4 cancer I feel awfulYou Its about the same for me I have the flu|0 So at what point do we just accept that this virus is a thing circulating like other diseases You cant stop it now|1 All clickbait and fake videos should be punishable by this law amazing Maybe it would stop the rise of jaystationesque content creators|0 Secret vaccine for the benefit of some good propaganda to balance the badcompared to war there is little to fear from thisidc how old you are thats a line of government bullshit|0 this is the chance for youth to take over and right the worldBecause weve all seen how well that worked with the Boomers|1 Like that nanofiber is usually not something you want to breathe|1 Well there goes thousands of jobs lost rent not paid people behind on bills etc A lot of people especially in those industries live paycheck to paycheck No way can these people afford to lose an entire month of work Welcome to the great depression of 2020|0 Yea I know SOME stores are trying to do their best in limiting items per person for instance my store stopped us from being able to order thing and theyre leaving it to corporate to decide what gets shipped push conspiracy theories aside its aiding in a way where distribution is fair I feel like theres a number of reasons why were not limiting which is that were not a big store as is I can see one situation where limits are put and employees are put in situations where customers get upset and with tension already being built so high that will only add to it Its also happening so quickly Im sure at least I hope companies are looking for ways to manage whats going on This isnt something that has happened before and it frustrating for all parties|1 Needed RIP lol|1 I think Russia is full of crap|0 The two strain research has been largely debunked|0 Relax have a ciggieIt can kill you in a thousand ways and you were never bothered before|0 Whatever it takes to get people ALL people to stay home celebrity doctors parents friends kids who cares as long as they do itThe ultimate goal is to keep people safe|1 playing the long con huh|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Seems like natural selection I say let them|1 On the other hand maybe we should just go back and forth about it with the President on Twitter for a little while longer|1 Ooo does that mean fewer tourists in the summer Could be a good time to travel for folks without kids|1 This is also for show Need dr note most denied Not anyone can test you hope to get in before they run out of tests close after an hour Theres no locations win 60 miles of most ppl This is for the media|1 This sub two weeks ago was blaming China for propping up the market|0 plz no need moneys|0 From what Ive read children seem to experience a mild infection Its unknown why Lots of theories but no concrete knowledge Two things wash your hands regularly especially before you go home and once you get there dont touch your face with your hands Transmission still isnt completely understood but from what Ive read its believed those infected are more likely to transmit to noninfected people after symptoms appear|0 The forgotten Golden Child scriptures with Eddie Murphy|0 He is obviously sick now and now I have a newfound appreciation for absurd comedy Im starting to understand some of the artwork surrounding the European plague|1 Please mark this with misleading title or unconfirmed etc|0 Also I get mad when people laugh over Y2K Yes some of the claims were ridiculousyour blowdryer wont work your car wont start but there were REAL SERIOUS issues out there Programmers worked their butts off for 45 years trying to update code I worked in banking credit unions and started noticing issues in 1996 CDs and loan maturities couldnt be entered in the system past the year 2000 For several years our software provider would provide us regular trial updates that we had to run simulations on after hours and report what didnt work There was always something We had to report quarterly to the government agencies responsible for oversight of the bankingcredit union systems It was years of work on our parts and we werent even programmers|1 Scary|0 Yes they still are compatible with modern filters and even older filters are acceptable in the face of an immediate and severe health risk with the tradeoff of possible complications if the filter was leaking asbestos can be easily avoided by visually checking that the top cotton part of the filter is intact|1 They do exist mate Ive had to tell people this logic a couple of times so far Even look at some of the replies to this saying its a good thing if the elderly died|0 People slaving away 80hr at takeout restaurants dont travel for the holidays|1 Fuck Trump Fuck Biden Fuck Pelosi Fuck Xi Drop the politics and wake up Many leaders are crap Why do we keep electing smooth talkers who dont give a crap about anything but maintaining power at any cost|0 Yea This sub isnt all that bad Any bad commentd have been down voted to hell by the wider more responsible community democraticDiging up that post must have taken some timeAny change in moderation now will stink of the long arm of Boris talking with tech companies to suppress informationI think if you want to create a rUKcoronavirusModerated at let us know about it so we can have access to a controlled subredditI like that there are moded origional coronavirus subreddits and also the unmoderated onesI say keep this sub as the freedom of speach and democratically controlled subredditI think this community is good at calling out bullcrap and idiots Ive seen it already I think|1 Jut found some info that Koch Industries donated massive sums to NPR httpstruthoutorgarticlesthecorporatedictatorshipofpbsandnpr Looks like they also donated to PBS httpswwwusnewscomnewsthereportarticles20150626thekochbrothersgiftstosociety|1 George Carlin was an absolute genius Pretty much everything out of his mouth was about how fucked up the world and government is all cleverly disguised as comedy If youve never watched his stuff just YouTube George Carlin stand up and get lost in the rabbit hole until nothing new is popping up|1 The number of total beds isnt much higher|1 Too bad the WHO and CDC have been downplaying and slow leaking important information and dragging their feet on important decisions since the beginningWhat a shit show|0 I came here to ask this too Well done on the app though OP|1 Hold on that guys still around I thought he went away during the 80s Smh|0 You know how many fulfillmentdistributionlogisticsfreight centers are in NKY from Walton to Hebron NKY has the Prime Air hub and DHL hub Like someone else said UPS hub in Louisville Then the truck drivers disperse all around KY and neighboring states Thats how our country works Many companies with centralized warehouses in NKY Lex and Louisville truck drivers have routes that cover multiple small towns in KY stopping at multiple stores grocery stores restaurants smaller distribution centers etc in each city|1 That would take days Haha |1 It was fine honestly I just stayed at home like any sane person and took time to lose it i remember the specific name its called bilateral pneumoniaEdit it took me about a week|1 Not over heretheres a comment somewhere wherec the OP explains this but we have state pensions and likely the pension from the company itself that arent affected So you ll have cash to live just less for now|1 Better safe than sorry|1 I tried to get FMLA for anxiety today so that my employer couldnt make me work through the outbreak and was denied because I was told that this should be no different for me than the flu or whooping cough Can you believe that shit Then an hour later the Governor of Washington State came out and said that they may put the state into full lockdownI just feel like the government is holding peoples heads underwater at this point|0 Ohio Governor is banning large gatherings Nonessential agency travel is banned Told his family not to fly Theyre going to be sending people home in state government that can remote in Dont know where you live but it might be helpful to show the actual state level response and language DeWine said today we can easily end up like Italy You shouldnt even have a birthday party|1 Presidential campaigns are a popularity contest that Hillary had to cheat to win Going against big Pharma is a legislative battle its like saying how can this bicyclist athlete be so bad at swimming He is better than average but worse than professional swimmers|0 However we do not have evidence of replicationcompetent virus in fecal swabs which is required to confirm the potential for fecaloral transmissionCritically important sentence|1 I dont disagree that to me the layman the choice is very clear Im thinking that with NAFTA and the threat of tariffs and the potential for a CanUS relationship meltdown theyre trying to walk that fine line between containing the virus and ensuring this house of cards doesnt come crashjng unexpectedly I dont agree with the governments actions but Im trying to understand them|1 Thats excellent newsCost of testing should absolutely not be a barrier in containing the spread of an outbreak|1 Because there was an outbreak in a skilled nursing facility basically a nursing home for people recovering from a hospital stay who tend to be very old and already very sick|0 death stranding is a video game that exists in a world where if you dont burn the bodies they explode with the force of a nuclear bomb|0 My relative is working in elderly daycare place They used to be required to wear masks which were provided by the employer Now there are no masks so that requirement is no longer there|0 the smartest way is to keep an eye on mainstream media and also on fringe media the other eye|1 Good idea but seniors should probably not be leaving their homes for any reason at all Communitiescompanies need to work together to get any foodsupplies that they need delivered to their doorsteps|1 You seem to be asking about the efficacy of the malaria treatment chloroquine against SARSCOV2 Please see this article in the academic journal Nature for further information httpswwwnaturecomarticless4142202002820fbclidIwAR0sG1G81fFcpaEubHBoCyNsiVs87R1KkwOuqjRhx7psfHV6iSDRD1cM0I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Very important point|1 Its a habit everyone should adopt regardless of this coronaviruseYup Been seeing the first masks in my locality in Israel Hordes of idiotic teenagers in tow gawking laughing and gesticulating at the individual Idiots|1 They sent out an email Thursday saying as of right now the conference will proceed as planned My guess is theyre trying to negotiate out of the contract and get some money back but the way things are going they might have no choice but to cancel it|0 The ones with a contract are safe the federal agencies take care of it The others with underthetable pays and such not so much|1 Right but what matters is the average person If one guy with allergies spreads it to ten people but then it stops there its not an issue|0 Its not like we didnt know already We have three years of track records to go through Short term view personal interest only|1 But the question is do you know anyone who takes affection as payment I have plenty of it but not a lot of money|1 Thanks for the comments guys Im 23 and healthy but the last thing I want to do is give it to my parents 49 and 59 I just dont want anything bad happening to them Just my nerves getting to me especially seeing different thingson the media Its getting hard to believe anything anyone says|1 See without prices rising to incentivize this conversation new supply such as someone with an abundance would never think to enter and redistribute them back into the marketSupply in a low demand area such as b fuck Nebraska no offense is not bought out to be shipped and resold where its needed The increased costs to pay overtime to ramp up production may not be economical and so onDont fuck with prices Prices fix the problem not intervention and moralizing Humans are selfish and immoral creatures and the beauty of a free market is that it harness greed which is unavoidable to serve altruistic ends the supply of every unmet want from the highest to the lowest among us|0 Friday we tested 771 and yesterday 442 Hahaha|1 This thread has been great Way too many boomers are sending around advice from a Chinese doctor in Wuhan telling people to drink warm drinks eat ginger and pray to the sun gods who will kill the virus|1 I work at a smallish transit company that does paratransit The majority of our riders and nearly half our drivers are in the most vulnerable category I feel like Im the only one who cares and is attempting to raise the alarm and prepare Im losing my mind|0 Based on Chinas numbers Numbers out of SK Italy and Iran are not as good|0 From my observation the numbers double every 2 days We are kindda still on track if you plot it on a graph Should be around or over 10000 infected by end of January 2020 And if the doubling trend do not stop in the entire of February since symptoms can be hidden but still viral it would be 190 million infected a ridiculous number doubling 14 times over Feb2020 that would be the end of China as we know it and we are essentially getting a global epidemic Lets hope we not get there|0 I work in tax and was all but told the only way we would shut down is for a a govt shutdown or b the statecity literally closing our doorsIm in the middle of downtown Boston in an office of 40 people who are almost all in the office today despite the urging not to gather 25 people in a shared space because offices are somehow exemptA lot of places are stepping up and taking this seriously Unfortunately theres still normalcy bias and its in the places that matter most Boston is not the setting to be gambling like this right now but here we are|1 Did I forget s at the end|0 But Reddit thinks hospitals should just be empty and each able to accommodate 1000 extra people per day with thousands of supplies in a giant warehouse next door|0 Yes we should treat the 50 states as separate countries too|1 Iceland not present yet has the highest incidence percapita in europe otherwise I agree with you|1 So just because they are in every city means s all citizens buy from there or work there Your not really being logical Thats like saying all women in America are strippers because there are strip clubs in every city|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im one of those people I am avoidant of panicking because I think its a waste of mental energy andor I grew up in a really chaotic household and oddly find peace when theres panic plus I have a degree in Mass Communications Advertising but I studied the mediajournalism a LOT for years and so I 100 avoid the mass media at all costs if I can because its all verbal clickbait My rule is someone will tell me if its really important and if I hear it from 5 different people in a span of about 3 days then I will pay attention Otherwise it cant be that important for me to be bombarded with terror and fear from a TV screenHowever when I went to my gymcommunity center today literally every single person was talking about covid including like 6 year olds I finally said okay this is serious I called my dadfamily tonight to see how theyre doing I want to go home and be with my family I live a state away I will be staying home tomorrow and cancelling my appointments Theres a time to deny and avoid and downplay and a time to actually take things seriously I think the next three weeks should be taken very seriously just in terms of limiting exposure But I hope people find time to laugh together call loved ones cook food share stories and just spend time Maybe even clean the house |1 1 The amount of papers in those journals that should be retracted but are not are staggering even then the retraction rate is among the highest in the industry Heck you try to write these journals pointing out conflicts of interest bad statistics or outright wrong control experiments and you know what you end up with Silence Even if its submitted to pubpeer Its sad so yeah I call them frauds2 Unfortunately the impact they have cause a huge amount of research money being spent on wrong or worse fraudulent ideas Having the elitist opinion that unless you publish in a high tier journal your research is worthless or wrong makes me furious A stance like that is exactly why the high tier journals are full of crap these days because you better publish there or you can kiss your research ideas and career goodbye You know what that produces Fraudhttpswwwnaturecomnewspublishhousesofbricknotmansionsofstraw122029Sums it up better than I can ironically thats published in nature heh|0 can someone please explain the first clip|1 Keep it going Italy Positive mental attitude Youll beat this Corona horse cock|1 No they arent already prioritizing Folk should brush up on their reading comprehension before posting shit And people wonder why you have people coming on here mocking the doom merchants You read a headline and ran with it without actually reading the actual content|0 What youre describing also sounds like whooping coughpertussis|1 Can you take an 8090 pay cut Thats what a lot of those or hours cases are We dont want to fire any of you but everybody only gets one short shift a week|0 Flattening that curve also increases the length of economic strain There has to be a balance|0 Those wacky rapist types that think they know it all|0 Well if it heads that way all those folks will get their guns and ammo seized so Im not worried|1 Incubation period is from 2 to 14 days and the average is 5 daysthere are a few huge exception like one guy out of 70000 cases who got a 27 days incubation but 90 of the cases show symptoms before a week|1 Yes I like Steve a lot Hes fun to watch Best wishes|1 I was born 3 years too late to fight the Spanish Flu Ive waited my whole life for this moment|0 Gov Cuomo of NY says 2 weeks Hah No its more like 8 This is not something that will be solved in a month|1 They could just as well be 3D printing guillotines you know Your call shareholders|1 Twotime Pneumonia sufferer here and 39yearold smoker Had Bacterial Pneumonia in 2007 and spent 10 days in hospital as they thought I had meningitis I was on a cocktail of medications and if youve never experienced Pneumonia let me paint a picture You have a strong but manageable cough which feels very different to average coughs You feel like you want to cough something up but when you try nothing comes You can feel a dead weight in your chest and with every breath you want more You dont feel as though youre getting enough oxygen Its a bit like doing Yoga in a hot room but without all the beautiful people Then there are the headaches Im not sure where this comes from but you get random headaches which feel cold But the kicker for me was the medications and how they make you feel I felt very nauseous and my stomach was upset yet due to the amount of Paracetamol or APAP I had consumed I was bunged up have you ever wanted to relieve yourself of a bad stomach but cant Its really horrid And that is WITHOUT all the ancillary symptoms that come with Covid|0 From what I understand there are slight increases of some later in life diseases and reductions in other later in life diseases some diseases increase when you only eat the whites while others decrease and same for eating yokes as with most things they are likely healthy in moderation though since they are very high in protein they will keep you full but they can cause problems for people with kidney problems|0 These fuckers are all helping ccp write the ccpfriendly accounts|0 Or to be less charitable they havent got all their communications team to move away from political spin doctoringBriefing details to one pet journalist overnight is not how to communicate the most important public health campaign ever They need to get their messaging sorted NOW Lives are literally at stake|1 China did not buy the West time China cost many lives by hiding the virus the complete opposite of buying time|0 67 is still old and immune response is not nearly as good as someone who is younger You realize that the two of you arent actually disagreeing on anything right|1 people are ultimately scared animals who use denial to protect themselvesThis is one of the arguments that other people give that always scares me the most I dont read the News its all just bad news anywaysThat may be true there is a lot of bad news but threats especially deadly ones are things we should want to be at least peripherally aware of Its saying Theres a runaway train coming but I dont need to know that|0 Yeah I dont get this You can think theres a coordinated effort to take down Trump and the United States and still think this is a huge deal thats gonna kill tons of people People are just in denial|1 There is a young nurse who collapsed and died of a heart attack supposedly without having a virus at all She died from exhaustion Of course its a social media out of China report so no link to give|0 The amount of knowledge on reddit never ceases to amaze|0 All Im going to say is Im hoping for the best in that particular situation Hopefully this starts a revolution against the corporate America we know today Hopefully people no longer respect people just because they have a job Hopefully every time a politician gets up on stage the first question will be What have you done for us not Who are you wearing Unfortunately the vast majority of the electorate is also myopic and tribal in their thinking The notion of common good doesnt compute its biases sentiments over every other thing You can visit rLeopardsAteMyFace and see how people vote for politicians who cause them harm Im not hopeful about a revolution people often times than not are their own worst enemies|1 Its ok risk is still low for the average American|0 Hes the one who insinuated I would die if I was American How the hell is that not toxic|0 Tbf This sub has gotten pretty shitty also|0 Same Im not overly concerned we will get it based on location and lifestyle but you never know this is defiantly a small relief|1 My mom has diastolic dysfunction grade 2 Thats why Im most concerned with this virus and its relation to the heart Shes also a pre diabetic Age 52|0 I dont think he shook hands in Las Vegas today at his rally he pointed to people and did thumbs up Vegas is the closest major city to me so the rally was on my TV I might have missed him shaking a few hands on stage because it was on on the background while I was waiting for real TV to come back on but I just remember the thumbs up and his big grin|1 I had a coworker admit I was right today I have been telling people its coming here since JanuaryI had another send me pictures of empty grocery stores in his town and he said You called it broFeels good|1 Sorry Were banning crowds of more than one person|0 The jury is still out on how it acts in warmer weather That being said warmer weather will bring the end of flu season which will free up hospital beds resources So at the least the timing is better than if this his in early November|1 link pls|1 At the speed this moves and with those declarations in place by your management you only have two options go to work and do your job per their instructions knowing you run the risk of getting infected or just dont go to work Yes you could lose your job over this Yes later on maybe you could sue But right here and now those are your choices I wont judge you either way because its a shitty choice that you have to make but it is what it is Regardless of what you decide I hope you make it through this alive and well|1 Wherever you work if you have a cough you have to self isolate for a week and its not counted as sick leave Just ring up tonight and tell them to note its not sick leave|1 If no one buys it they will have to reduce price or it will never get sold|0 If you are seriously trying to get the idea into someones head try this You would like the story of the man who the emperor of China wanted to reward The man first asked for a chessboard then for one grain of rice on the first square 2 on the second 4 on the next and so on doubling each time He owned all the rice in the world before all the squares were used up Then take a grain of rice and place it on a chessboard in front of them One death2 deaths 4 deaths 8 deaths name some of the places where there have been deaths So many here so many there How long will it take for you to get serious about this That might get through someones thick head The R0 factor r naught factor is still disputed I think The number of people a patient infects when 1 patient is diagnosed how many has he infected who are not yet showing symptoms 2 separate authorities claim very different numbers for the R0 Both are over 2 and one is over 3 It is more than doubling the number of infected as it spreads|0 It probably prevents a crash|0 He has been director of NIAID since 1984 Hee definitely has a deep understanding about policy when it comes to infectious disease|1 On the Diamond Princess 2 were hospitalized In South Korea 1 are hospitalized|1 damn and switzerland had plus 800 cases just yesterday i didnt fcking expect that|0 Yeah Im definitely one of the many many poor saps who will die in the first wave I have my supplies ready but I dont have friends in high places military andor survivalist background street smarts physical prowess and lightningspeed thinking that the main characters of this kind of movie have|0 Easy for you to say I have mouths to feed It sucks but until we all get paid sick leave my familys well being comes first|0 This must be so shitty for morale but theyre still hanging in there Theyre brave as hell|0 I dont remember where I read it before but Prepare for the worst but hope for the bestMy friend and I have been talking about this since late jan and early feb but our need to prepare before the mass panic died because the thought of it happening to us was unlikely to happen Yet its here and its been spreading in our area for the last two months and people have been panic buying We cant afford to get sick its not the dying that scares me its the during and aftermath Will I have a job to get back to Will I be able to pay rent and food and the massive medical bills that will come my familys way|0 You are correct that Vancouver Coastal Health refers to a region not a building The article also states the people from Wuhan were guests in her home and they are in isolation in her homeJust backing up your info because this discussion is absolutely ridiculous|0 I didnt go very far w extra emergency goods but I did pick up a crank radio solar charger and a power cell you charge up and will give you about 7 cell phone charges|0 Dont worry Pence is definitely going to give us that answer tonight|1 Good on CA however how probable do you see something like this panning out for other less workerfriendly states|1 Im imagining parks closest to big cities in this scenario The parks that cost money to enter where Im familiar with that are close to big cities are PACKED on normal pretty weekends If they waved the fees they would be even more packed Im talking like a concert festival levels of packed Especially if people had nothing else to do These arent in NY but in other heavy populated areas my first thought was how busy Stone Mountain Park in GA would be|1 Shouldnt this graph compare infection ratepopulation not the death rate It would be much more precise since death rate has other factors|1 Greek here We just had our 9th case Schools in the cities of those cases will shut down for the following 2 weeks Governments will do whatever they need to do in order to keep us safe Dont forget if we die they wont have anyone to rob|0 I need to be walking around the block instead of sitting on the sofa stressing my fat ass out readding reddit|0 Um because they just got from ITALY and are ill So wouldnt you err on the side of caution|0 Yes thats one big takeaway from the paper seeking more empirical data to resolve this mechanism natural selection before or after zoonotic transfer should be afforded high priority to avoid covid19 as being another seasonal flu albeit more deadly The second takeaway is it lays to rest bioterrorism conspiracy theories particularly doing rounds in India that it was cultivated and manipulated purposefully in the lab by China|0 Its like the CDC is deliberately taking steps to make this worse|0 What do you mean Theres no shortage of food or anything|0 Completely agree Atleast China understands that in order to not fall victim to this completely they have to attempt save their economy AND citizens Sure seems like the top officials just want to save the economy and have no sight of saving citizens Some government we have|1 Its almost like I was just making a dumb joke in the original comment Any leftie knows that universal healthcare isnt actually socialism If the means of production arent nationalized then its not socialism its pretty much as that simple But nuance is largely lost on reddit and therefore I made a joke about socialism looking pretty good rn What the other person said is absolutely correct What is and isnt actually socialism doesnt matter because we here in the US have been brainwashed with antisocialist propaganda for about a century now The right will call whatever the left does socialism They did it to Obama when he implemented a republican healthcare bill and theyll do it do universal healthcare|0 Do these people also forget that its easy for media to report the fringe cases out of 1000s where people get reinfected Do they know that most if not all vaccines also arent 100 protective Its okay if a few people out of 100s or 1000s of cases do not get immune Herd immunity will still do its job|1 This is a novel virus and is spreading like wildfire Novel means we know very little about it and humans have no resistance to itIts not that hard to understand if youd just calm down a little|1 Criminals have their right of free movement violated as a punishment for what society has agreed to be a bad thing illegal Violating human rights under certain circumstances is acceptable and desirable in a civilized society This has nothing to do with China|0 Could be in that format They could also organize their own debates without the need of a major cable network None of them like the formats of the debates anyways so they can all choose their own format|0 I have not seen todays ICU figure but they were at bursting capacity at 600 yesterday and I would expect there to have been another big influx today Tough choices then has to be made either close the hospitals like they did in Wuhan or you have to prioritise care to those who are most likely to survive The CFR is pretty grim at 80 so it is not hard to imagine what could have happened|1 They did retroactively test a few who had died of flupneumonia and found that some had COVID but that testing either stopped or isnt being discussed Not to mention many states just started texting and pneumonia and flu related deaths have been pretty high despite the amount of people testing negative for the flu Lots of mangled and messy info to be sure about any hard numbers as far as CFR here in the US I mean our infection count is extremely low compared to what the reality is Its hard to say for sure about any of it being lower than expected or not|0 Stupid deaths Stupid deaths Theyre funny cos theyre true|0 Microsofts anticompetitive practices and misinformation campaigns in the 1990s when Gates was at the helm are notorious Microsoft also pioneered stack ranking of employers in which a fixed number of employees had to be labelled as poor performers each review cycle as well as other high pressure employment practices More recently the Gates Foundation has been criticised for its excessive influence over the WHO causing funds to be diverted and spent on glamorous headlinegrabbing pet projects instead of wherever it most neededIn the end though it doesnt matter whether one or two individuals are good or bad relying upon philanthropy and charity and handing power to a tiny elite has been done already and we know the resulthttpsyoutubeZSnXI93lY0|0 You are awesome |1 Stable genius |1 Reinfection is apparently a possibility too and like dengue possibly much worse the second time around I just hope that some of the its inevitable people dont start being negligent such as by eating at work without washing hands or doing highrisk activities cruises concerts etc and then continuing to mingle with those of us who still hope to avoid the virus|1 Sofosbuvir is the FDA approved and safe viral RNA polymerase inhibitor Sofosbuvir can save the humanity facing death and panic of SARSCoV19 before vaccine is available We are not desperate of no treatment We are desperate of lack of imaginationBased on chemical structures and safety profiles sofosbuvir is expected to be superior to Remdesvir in inhibiting SARSCov19 RNA polymerase Here are reasons1Both HCV and SARSCov19 are single positive strand RNA virus The 2 virions actually look more similar than Ebola RNA polymerase of HCV and SARSCov19 are similarly inhibited by sofosbuvir based on sequence model and molecular dockinga httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS00243205203022532A Columbia University group is testing sofosbuvir and making an obligatory RNA chain terminator by blocking 3OH The news was picked up by obscure journals pharmaphoruma httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200130927574v1bhttpspharmaphorumcomnewscouldgileadssovaldibetheanswertocoronavirus3The crucial difference of performance of nucleoside analog drugs is safety It is very similar to gene therapy Both use the basic molecular biology of nucleotides or nucleic acid universal to human and virus The recent success of gene therapy compared to failures a decade ago proves the critical importance in achieving safety profiles Among all other HCV nucleoside analogs eg BMS986094 MK0608 and IDX184 sofosbuvir shows superb performance thanks to its safety It achieves its therapeutic exposure or maximum concentration in human by avoid being hampered by toxicity Structurally the major difference is the nucleoside base in the analogs Similar to structure of sofosbuvir Uprifosbuvir may also workahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiUprifosbuvirbhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSofosbuvir4COVID19 patients often experience hypoxemia causing irreversible organ damages It is crucial to avoid toxicity of major organs eg heart liver and kidney by nucleoside analog treatment The failure of BMS986094 is caused by heart and kidney toxicityahttpsnewsbmscompressreleasefinancialnewsbristolmyerssquibbdiscontinuesdevelopmentbms986094investigationab httpsacademicoupcomtoxsciarticle15323962579185 ine is the potent drug to use as prophylaxis and treatment as some in Japan have gotten better after taking it and those with Lupus didnt even get itMy initial loading dose was 200mg Immediately I could feel my temperature rising and getting chills all through that day half life is a very long 23 days Felt like a flu Then Another 100mg the next day same effect I was cursing myself for taking it but I couldnt have known it would have this effect on me It seems a very heavy potent and dangerous drug Even iid HCL has a better safety profile and is more effective than CS for Covid19 but still it is a heavy toxic drug Even as prophylaxis I couldnt handle it Am 43 with no major health issues I wanted to take it as prophylaxis and travel but then decided against it Not proven in vivo as prophylaxis and it is dangerous to travel before this thing peaks Besides the side effects of HCL as I tried it didnt sit well with me re my temperature rising and getting those aweful chills Prophylaxis makes you feel protected and you gives you confidence in these unprecedented times but the drug has to be handled well by your body Pre exposure prophylaxis is the smartest idea given we dont have a vaccine anytime soon but these quinine drugs are really heavy I cannot fathom how people take HQL 200 mg bidand for long periods Be careful if you want to try it as prophylaxis I only took 300mg per week and decided to stop just after 1 week eventhough the idea of pre exposure prohylaxis is super enticing given that you dont want to catch covid19 in the first place Pre exposure prohylaxis is used in HIV settings for those who are wondering where the idea came from This pandemic made us go over board In addition to stacking masks isopropyl alcohol bottles dettol surface sprays and hand sanitizers with rubber gloves I managed to stack 30 boxes of both chloroquine and hydrochloriquine I live in Lebanon where you dont need a prescription for anything except Xanax Remdesivir is the promising drug with a good safety profile but cannot be obtained since it is experimental but I read about Sofosbuvir an antiviral for HepC also from Gilead which might work better than Remdesivir as cure and prohylaxis and is available as oral tablets with a good safety profile This would be good to use again as pre exposure prophylaxis since you dont want to catch it in the first place Only issue that 28 pills cost 10000 I read there is generic form ofcourse much less in pricing but still comes not many can afford or will pay that insane amount for just 28 pills for pre exposure prophylaxis Also not proven in vivo like Remdesivir but looks very very promisingSee articles and excerpts belowhttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0024320520302253httpspharmaphorumcomnewscouldgileadssovaldibetheanswertocoronavirushttpsblogssciencemagorgpipelinearchives20200306covid19smallmoleculetherapiesreviewedAnd here is a comment from the last link aboveSofosbuvir is the FDA approved and safe viral RNA polymerase inhibitor Sofosbuvir can save the humanity facing death and panic of SARSCoV19 before vaccine is available We are not desperate of no treatment We are desperate of lack of imaginationBased on chemical structures and safety profiles sofosbuvir is expected to be superior to Remdesvir in inhibiting SARSCov19 RNA polymerase Here are reasons1Both HCV and SARSCov19 are single positive strand RNA virus The 2 virions actually look more similar than Ebola RNA polymerase of HCV and SARSCov19 are similarly inhibited by sofosbuvir based on sequence model and molecular dockinga httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS00243205203022532A Columbia University group is testing sofosbuvir and making an obligatory RNA chain terminator by blocking 3OH The news was picked up by obscure journals pharmaphoruma httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200130927574v1bhttpspharmaphorumcomnewscouldgileadssovaldibetheanswertocoronavirus3The crucial difference of performance of nucleoside analog drugs is safety It is very similar to gene therapy Both use the basic molecular biology of nucleotides or nucleic acid universal to human and virus The recent success of gene therapy compared to failures a decade ago proves the critical importance in achieving safety profiles Among all other HCV nucleoside analogs eg BMS986094 MK0608 and IDX184 sofosbuvir shows superb performance thanks to its safety It achieves its therapeutic exposure or maximum concentration in human by avoid being hampered by toxicity Structurally the major difference is the nucleoside base in the analogs Similar to structure of sofosbuvir Uprifosbuvir may also workahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiUprifosbuvirbhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSofosbuvir4COVID19 patients often experience hypoxemia causing irreversible organ damages It is crucial to avoid toxicity of major organs eg heart liver and kidney by nucleoside analog treatment The failure of BMS986094 is caused by heart and kidney toxicityahttpsnewsbmscompressreleasefinancialnewsbristolmyerssquibbdiscontinuesdevelopmentbms986094investigationab httpsacademicoupcomtoxsciarticle15323962579185|1 Everyone liked that|1 This Also the point of quarantine is to reduce spread of the virus Delivering food to hundreds of households a day probably doesnt achieve that goal Frankly if Im in lockdown Im not sure I want to order fast food that is dubiously prepared at the best of times|1 I love Denmark best place to be when I finish my medical studies I want to try and work there|1 Seriously hope that Trump just doesnt ignore them because you know they are not make in USA or something like that If you dont want please send over to other countries that need them|1 Well we havent started testing so when that happens then maybe|1 They started Triage a few days ago yes|1 And about half of those numbers are for nonviolent drug related offenses About half of the drug related offenses are not related to distribution|0 Ive spent a lot of time in Moscow the past few months AMAZING CITY|1 Happy to see you slowly waking up to the realities of how bad the covid19 virus is Still think NY has 1 case or you changed your mind just curiousGod bless us all|1 Its so crazy|0 My mother is also in her 50s and smokes so shes probably at huge risk I dont get the callous dismissal of only the old and the weak die bruh its fine by which they meant 50 and up because that wont soothe me when I have to bury my own mother|0 If you want to find out the likelihood of hospital admission then yes your method is one you could use but that isnt what Im doing nor the authors This study is primarily to examine risk of severity and death among different types of patients and is really all its good for The numbers arent meaningless they just serve a specific purpose In that sense looking at OPs title they are wrong The study clearly demonstrates an increased risk of mortality among the elderly and smokers as well as those with other conditions|1 I remember reading something like that around the time of late January to early February|1 there are no masks available online how else can i be preparedDo whatever youre able Practice good hygiene wash your hands frequently Dont touch your face Sneezecough into your elbow not your hands When you come home leave bagsshoesjacket by the door and immediately wash your hands Keep your home as clean as you can Stay healthy get plenty of rest exercise drink lots of water eat good food avoid junk foodCan you fill a few containers with tap water for storage Are there Poundshop or Poundland stores nearby You can get super cheap medical supplies toiletries and food there|1 Exactly this Their job is to do work and also to aggregate the work done at the state and city levels The singular defense of appointing Pence as the head of this thing was to have a central organizer who can help keep the info straight and disseminate it with minimal confusion and contradiction And theyve just abdicated the most public part of that responsibility|1 Man am I stoked I came across your posts They give me hope and quelled so many rumors and fears Ive been hearing using just science and facts Many many thanks|1 Places that have successfully slowed down the Spread HAVE HAD PRETTY MINUTE DEATH RATES LESS THAN THE ACTUAL FLUWell thats factually untrue|1 No Im suggested we dont have massive fucking gigs then complain after that were the next ItalyI dont know where youre getting the stay at home for a year thing fromIf you dont have to be at a large gathering such as that gig then dont go|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Large swaths of the US will never quarantine and air travel may slow but wont stop I could see a town or city quarantining if it got really really bad in one area the way it is in Italy now Well see|0 OK then Hopefully hydroxychloroquine will work similar to chloroquine then|1 Yeah its not the norm I see people i know posting on Facebook about how funny it is going to be when they see people wearing masks Im like people are already wearing them maybe not here but on the west coast i am sure they are Down in NYC im sure they are It is insane how people want to take this lightly because the media is blowing it out of proportion The insane part is what if they arent what if it gets as bad as it is else where in the world|0 Someone posted a video of a Chinese toilet and it became pretty clear how disease outbreaks could spread there|1 Youre welcome I wish you all the bestRemember if things get bad enough they absolutely will tell people to keep the kids at home but itll only happen after enough people die Take care|0 I am aware but theres only been 26 confirmed deaths so far and one of them being completely healthy prior to the infection isnt the best sign|0 Bold clame no source|1 Well noMost hospitals with an extra middle man if theyre publicgovernment funded have direct contracts with distributors which have direct contracts for manufacturersCompanies like 3M have emergency orders for governments and large clients who get served first then public dealersSome companies produce exclusively for their governmental clients|1 Were completely fucked in the UK Due to a decade of funding freezing the NHS has no capacity available to deal with the epidemic It almost collapsed a couple of years ago when there was a bad flu season ffs COVID19 is going to obliterate it|0 Dont forget babies Therell always be more of them anyway Well not my personal babies since no one will fuck me because I wipe fistfuls of snot on my clothes but thats how femoids are soThat guy probably|0 Dont worry about those people generalizing Proceeds to generalize the majority of users |1 Its more easy to be infected in there then anywhere else The drama queens will get sick for real |0 What we do know is that the second largest outbreak and the one with the most testing is seeing a rate of 6Yes with the addendum that all sick received great medical care You have nothing to back the claim they will be higherIn fact I do When you have someone who can not breathe without the help of a medical ventilator and you do not have an available medical ventilator it is pretty selfevident that that person will die It is of course not assured that enough people will get sick at the same time to overwhelm the healthcare system but it is probable if we do not take the extreme measures to that were taken in China and SouthKorea to slow down the spread of the virus|0 Smart|1 The invisible hand of the free market at work s|1 i have a friend who works at a small private school they had a hard time getting supplies I am wondering if this will happen with public schools and they will close due to that|1 Im in 510 at a 250bed and there was a rumored ruleout in IMC the other day Dont know how that ended Kaiser Oakland has already cleared an entire floor for this so at least someone is doing something I am not at kaiser Oakland|1 Some people just want to keep their head in the sand to avoid dealing with reality|0 So stupid questions incoming With so many of the preolympic qualifying events likely to be cancelled how do nations determine who goes How is something like football where not every team that wants to participate can participate decided I know concacaf has been delayed effecting North American teams|0 As someone with an underlying health condition this doesnt make me feel better |1 im with u there is no point in holding off quarantine doesnt matter whether its now or in a month eventually its going to have to happen if they want to slow spread the virus and eventually stop it the longer we wait the more people get it which means the longer the quarantine will have to last|0 Id like him to go and check out Wuhan too|1 Even if his net worth was lying around in suitcases he could give each person about 300 That instant 750 000 people that Amazon employs would permanently be unemployedGreat plan ya got there bud|0 Thank GOD people stocked up on TP|1 yes i know its a new experience for you|1 817 holla I work at the airport people arent stopping shit|1 Of course I just hate it at least in times like these|0 Someone came back from a hotel close to the one affected in Tenerife into school with 1000 people in it without even getting tested as a precaution If i returned from Tenerife i would want tested just in case i had it so i wouldnt be the one person who infected hundreds of school children|0 Do you mean that italy enforced harder messurements at a time where a smaller percentage was infected What did Italy at this point of the infection implement|0 Dont know about WHO but I watched a video on YouTube last night a dr in England says do not take NSAIDS no aspirin motrin diclofenac Tylenol is the recommendation I will see if I can locate and post link|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This will be the tragedy that history will write about The trumpsters who follow Fox News make up a larger share of the over 60 population the most at risk of death from the virus|0 I love you for this|1 Homie it was just a dumb shitpost I know that universal healthcare is a lot different than the workers owning the means of production|0 Was stalking weibo since jan lurking around here started prepping in jan 23 items more each grocery trip adds up|0 It is part of life While it is tough it is the reality of the situation You have to think critically and put emotions aside Same thing happens in war or large scale attacks People with little to no hope of survival are not going to receive the limit resources that are more well spent in higher survival cases|0 I had a work event 200 at a venue that does a lot of weddings Scheduled for late April They were super understanding and were trying to get folks rebooks for summer dates that were open instead We just cancelled because I work with a high risk group within a healthcare org and its too risky to find another date There was no fee and we got our deposit back Fingers crossed you have the same luck|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Hope youve been quarantining yourself since then|1 Yeah Ive tried to avoid snacks but have all the ingredients to make things like energy balls with chia seeds coconut etc So Ill make them every couple of days Chocolate doesnt last long in this house might get in some extra dark bars for nibbling onA great food product for soaking baking with etc are oats Overnight oats oats cakes oat bran muffins oaty bars porridge Many many things you can do with them|1 Unfortunately thats what Im saying The current number of confirmed cases is incredibly false due to lack of testing Once the free a d accessible testing takes of everywhere well immediately see that millions of Americans are already infected|0 Imagine that sometime in the future the song Happy Birthday has the same context as Ring a Ring o Roses Scary|1 Then she isnt infected right|1 Oh I get it I am not suggesting that its not a crime and deserving of punishmentHowever others have suggested that we punish people in the same manner to what likely drove them to commit the crime in the first place I think this lacks compassion and again this is the very reason why people want to lock them up because they lacked compassion for others and left quarantine I find this ironicI am not suggesting that these people are not wrong I am suggesting that two wrongs do not make a right I dont think this is justice and I would like to think that we have stopped intentionally making examples out of people via the justice system But since you got upvoted and I was downvoted I suppose I am alone in this sentiment|1 Whats new here Other papers already found the unique insert SPRRARS syncytia formation furinclevage weeks ago I must be missing something|0 Edit disclaimer This is whole thing seems to be a manipulative propaganda piece from CCPI know many EU countries sent help to China the last months so it is nice that it can go both waysO|1 Babies donthttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201401140122134231htmJust a fun fact about baby thinking ive always enjoyed sharing when its relevant|1 I think that this concept will twist after the coronavirus outbreak Mask can protect not only you but others Especially there are a lot of people who got coronavirus without severe symptoms Thats why most Asian governments ask people to wear masks Theres a confirmed case in Taiwan who is a caregiver infected by her patient She take public transportationssubway bus train and hight speed rail way and go to many places with mask before she confirmed by Taiwans CDC She didnt infect anyone I believed that wearing a mask is a good way to prevent droplet transmission Hope there will have more scientific evidences to prove it after this time|1 did stormarea51 had the same number of people too|1 Shes positive|1 Good news tag Yas|1 Covid19 will be the crisis needed for M4A and the ensuing the recession and lost labor income the stepping stone to a socialized system This is the shock the US needed to reform imo|0 Definitely a scary time and its hard to get a ship full of people to adhere to quarantine protocols|0 I was also thinking what would happen if someone had this virus introduced only to intestines will it spread to lungs Does this distance have any effect on it and body having more time to study and mount a better response so many unknowns|1 It could be manmade as China is becoming a super power Alibaba etc this could have been manmade to stop them|1 So you were fine with him fucking over other Americans until it started to affect youx200Bedit Damn I thought I would have negative points on this comment based on the responses I find it hard to believe you people actually think former trump supporters deserve to be shielded from criticism|0 Early on I was immediately on the Chinas tactics endanger the world I was bombarded by personal messages from Chinese redditors and so many down thumbs And people making fake graphs and news on the front page stating ha See its just fear mongering our government is on it They tried throwing local governments under bus as if they had no control Meanwhile there ruler is nowhere to be found They do not like anyone passing judgement I welcome world views on how shitty America is and can be|0 Someone here on this sub said some days ago No one will take it seriously until someone they know or a celebrity dies Hmmmm|0 You need hospital if you get a severe case of the virus where you require machines for ventilation which is still a pretty low chance for a healthy younger person Otherwise you just stay home and get rest no point of going anywhere|1 Hubei has nearly 60 million people Even with 1 million no longer susceptible thats nowhere near the numbers needed for herd immunity|0 As a former severe hypochondriac I remember the ebola hysteria It was worse than Coronavirus I remember being a in state of panic for over a week reading blog posts and news articles about how ebola was going to mutate to become airborne and bring about the extinction of mankind Im not saying that we shouldnt be reasonably concerned about Coronavirus I am saying that people will find ways to panic and make worst case scenarios out of anything|0 Nicnesss is seen as weakness Its part of one of the massive failings of Asian cultureSince when is that not a part of western culture as well Do you see any of our political leaders playing nice I sure as hell dont|0 Escape from Coronavirusirl|1 I was exaggerating when I was saying that they closed the borders but I still think that the country is overreacting largely because of the current political situation In the end I think Israel is far more at risk of a recession Especially with this happening right after a third election and a bit before our fourth I am actually at the airport now and it feels like a ghost town There is hardly anyone here and Im pretty sure most of them are nonisraelis on their way home|1 Yeah or a slightly less optimistic viewpoint the mass amounts of people heading into the doctor because its accessible and sneezing on everything is spreading the virus like wildfire|1 Trump is a travesty I just hope that these officials resist and share the information anyway What can be gained by keeping the meetings classified|1 This would be amazing in aerosolinhaler applications An antibody that can be directly administered to viral colonies in the lungs|1 If only we had a capable pandemic response team instead of having to rely on the military|1 Thats a pretty bad premise to be honest|1 Yeah something is definitely wrong with the system here Laudable effort but what the hell|0 Im sure it doesnt work for everyone but do check this article out its pretty interestinghttpswwwinccomscottmautza2yearstanfordstudyshowsastonishingproductivityboostofworkingfromhomehtml|1 thats crazy they can respond that fast|0 Welcome to America|1 Lol|1 Just because someone is in charge of the task force doesnt mean they are the one coming up with the medical opinions Just like any business there is always an executive in charge to organize delegate find the required experts and make quick decisions based on all of the opinions Look at the people on the team and their credentials Im sick of people spinning this to seem like Pence is over there pretending to be a scientist|1 Lmao my girlfriend is there right now with some friends for the week She didnt understand why I was upset with her going I guess Ill see her in 21 days at the earliest|1 Honestly never wouldve even thought it possible|1 Ive thought this for weeks but I dont think its that they actively want people to be ill its a Hobsons Choice situation We literally have no option other than to do exactly what youve said because the virus cant be stopped obviously so it has to be a managed spread to lessen the impact on services Then its damage limitation and unfortunately there will be a costIm in a higher risk group and have been isolating since last week Im not mingling again until theres more herd immunity and its not the virus equivalent of open season|0 Im old 60 and teach in an institution of international students and large class sizes I worry that one day in the next couple of weeks well find out there are more than a few cases|0 The SCDHEC website states you have to meet their own criteria in order to be tested but doesnt say exactly what the criteria is Maybe once private labs start offering the test doctors can order it directly from them As it stands now the doctor has to convince DHEC that its necessary and they administer the test to you I think most states have testing criteria thats separate from the CDCEDIT From the latest press conference they admit we have community spread and then say they are continuing our protocol for identifying travelrelated cases in the state httpwyff4comarticledhecinvestigatingpossiblecoronaviruscaseinspartanburg3othersstatewideofficialssay31274421srcapp So there you have it if your symptoms arent related to travel then your not getting tested except hospital admissions in some cases of pneumonia|1 sounds like Europe lol do they generally ignore it or only a republican govt|1 At least Ontario seems to be doing a good job of testing compared to many other jurisdictions in north America|1 I have always been in favour of light moderationI have been offered a spot on the mod team to be announced later i think so that I can maintain a sticky thread as I had suggested I think the freeform discussion we have here is a good thing occasional racist and harrassing posts aside If we have a maintained thread of confirmedverifiable information then there is no harm in people discussing there fears as they do At the moment the sub is high on fear posts and low on everything else thats all|0 Dont blame the public if retail stores are selling masks|1 How likely is it tha the virus will mutate to the point where the patients immunity is no longer associated with the current strain in the wild|0 Agree 100 America and EU need to diversify where products are manufactured|1 How much are they expected to stock though Face masks have to be changed multiple times a day and are disposable items Eventually hospitals still need to restock like everyone elseRegular people wearing them everywhere are going to ruin their own citiescountries when the healthcare workers are unable and unwilling to work due to lack of PPEAnd then cases will spike|0 What was that you said Bail the oil companies out Ok s|1 So what youre saying its in peoples best interest to deny they are sick and keep handling food MERICA|1 Facebook made an account for me Thats nice of them|1 What we will do here now and what we may do here 10 weeks from now are two very very different thingsThere are still a LOT of people who do not accept or understand this disease and what threat it poses to them their families neighbors coworkers and the country There is no broad shared consensus YetIntellectual experience has not yet meshed with emotional lived experience yet When it does what a majority of people will accept and which is plainly otherwise incompatible with our traditional freedoms and way of life may be very different We arent there yet Sadly it is highly likely that it is simply a matter of time until we do reach that particular place and moment in time It isnt something any Canadian ever thought we would see in our lifetimes We should not shirk from it but neither should we be eager to disrupt our lives and put aside our freedoms even if it is only temporary|1 Agreed plus masks are fucking great just in general They help reduce the amount of pollution you breathe in keep you from spreading diseases if youre sick in a nonpandemic environment and are great for sun protection But in America you get weird looks and people making snide comments about germaphones why do people suck so much|1 a pandemic also means most insureance companies wont pay so maybe they try to avoid that scenario|0 You are assuming 100 of individuals would get sick without a respirator They didnt have that control in place|0 prison guards will flee and prisoners will be left to themselves it has that written all over it and is not gonna happen only in china|0 Itll be very interesting to see how the government takes care of all the people who work in the hospitality industry who lose their jobsThey wont Its commonplace to blame the victims for not preparing for something their life situation doesnt give them the opportunity to prepare for|1 Living in Japan currently People are panicking a lot but it doesnt seem to be spreading that fast outside of jackassery like the one guy The US could really REALLY use this though because the medical system in the US isnt ready for something like this and having something that can be slapped onto a problem for a quick fix could potentially save a lot of lives in the coming weeks|1 Hope youre right wifes cousin flew to Singapore 10 days ago to see a girl he lands back in Atlanta Sunday They are having a family gathering to welcome him home Needless to say we wont be attending|1 A newborn was infected We cannot rule out the possibility that this can be transferred in utero A six month old a two year old people in their 20s this is open source datahttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsde2PACX1vQU0SIALScXx8VXDX7yKNKWWPKE1YjFlWc6VTEVSN45CklWWfuWmprQIyLtoPDA18tX9cFDraQ9S6pubhtml Edit select the line list to view cases by age and region|0 Just hands arms goggles Basically use hose like a sink dont want to enter house before washing|1 Im honestly okay with it I understand why a society cant be run on complete honesty its impossible You do the best you can with the situation youre given|1 I mean if you sign up to be a participant in a medical trial you can So you are allowed to if youre accepted for the clinical trial It isnt worth mass producing something and potentially hindering the trials of other vaccinations that need to be tested Even so in clinical trials we need to control our variables which would be difficult to do if we were just handing out experimental medicine Plus people already distrust medical professionals and scientists in some circumstances So even if its completely voluntary and not through a trial and is widely available a bunch of people dying from a cytokine storm unlikely but hey who knows is going to make people more adverse to getting treatment in the future and it erodes public trust of the health sector If people in a smaller trial experience hepatic failure in 40 of cases with a new pharmaceutical thats horrible But if that same amount experience that and its been administered to thousands thats a catastrophe That bureaucracy is in place to prevent repeating the atrocities of the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments No scientist or medical professional should be administering pharmaceuticals and biologics without having had a thorough review of clinical trials|0 Its an amazing indicator for terrible people|1 As was suspected|0 True with 500 million a superrich guy could buy 61 presidential delegates|1 Tbh I had this thought just a bit ago I was like okay So should we or shouldnt we|1 It doesnt therefore the US is probably in worse condition than this might show|0 Im still a minor who lives with my parents and my mother works with elderly people Im not scared of getting sick but getting my grandma and others in her retirement home sick|0 Those people deserve deserve to retire early and the CCP should pay for it|0 The federal government does have the authority to quarantine and isolate patients whom officials believe to be a public health threat These powers which date back to cholera outbreaks among ship passengers in the late 19th century are rarely used They dont say anything about who pays when the isolation happens in a nongovernmental medical facility or when theyre brought there by a private ambulance companyThere is no uniform practice said Lawrence Gostin a professor of global health law at Georgetown University They do have the powers but theyve almost never used them in modern timesWhile the number of patients held in mandatory isolation is currently small it is likely to grow if the coronavirus continues to spread across the United States Eleven cases were confirmed in San Antonio on Friday evening Earlier in the day public health authorities identified a second case in California and a first in Oregon where patients who had not traveled to an affected country became infectedA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spokesman declined to comment on whether it would pay the bills of patients kept in mandatory isolationMr Gostin worries that high charges for mandatory isolation could make patients wary of seeking needed medical treatmentThe most important rule of public health is to gain the cooperation of the population he said There are legal moral and public health reasons not to charge the patientsThese hospital stays could prove expensive The International Federation of Health Plans estimates that the average day in a US hospital costs 4293 compared with 1308 in Australia and 481 in Spain They may be especially costly for patients without health insurance or those who have large deductibles which they must pay before their health benefits kick in|0 Egon somehow this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole in your head JK Ive had the feeling of impending doom for some time now too I prep because I have a strong imagination its grim at times yes but at least I can tell my wife and kids I tried if SHTF I surely hope everything blows over and US cities arent quarantined but it doesnt look that wayBased on my own personal timeline with the events starting in Wuhan I believe next week we see mass Quarantines in the US Like actual cities I really hope my family doesnt catch it but were all trying not toKeep your head on straight mate Lets endure|1 And that is quite a leap from the current criticism To say WHO has been treating China kindly in their posturing or being too reserved in their statements is one thing to say that theyre literally hiding death counts in their official reports is another|0 Im not a Trump supporter butfor some crazy reasonI thought he would do a better job of handling this The bar was already so low I have no idea why I thought this would be handled better by him So bad|0 Panic I smell smoke inside my house Im calling the firemans Denial I wont panic until I see literal fire Which one of the house will be ok in the end|0 Until a bunch of people die from nonsterilized medical devices made by hobbyists techies that dont know what the fuck theyre doing|0 Havent seen anything on this yet and health policy Twitter would be pretty quick to identify these changes or clarifications in policy|1 I thought that fibrosis was progressive Theres no cure for it so doesnt that mean that once you have the disease it progressively gets worse until it kills you They can only slow it down but not stop itAlso eventually it develops into lung cancer etcIf you recover from COVID it doesnt mean that fibrosis goes away or stops progression because thats not how the disease works|0 level 5KrappatoaThe UK is going to be hit hard Due to regular flu complications and other medical emergencies your hospital bed count is very limited COVID19 will devastate the UK healthcare system Hospital waiting rooms will look like Wuhan in the early days of the outbreakGet the hell out of town Find a place to bunker down Your time is running out You have 96 hours to a week|0 Context please is that an estimate for the present situation or a future projection|1 Im curious what everyone thinks the endgame is with our current plan We shut everything down we flatten the curve and then what Do you think this ends the spread of the virus It doesnt It just slows it down and prevents excess death Thats great but how can we prevent infections This virus is on track to hit every susceptible individual by summer You can wish on a star for a vaccine but that isnt going to happen in time You can reintegrate lowrisk individuals into society allow them to keep critical businesses running mandate that highrisk individuals selfisolate and you will save a hell of a lot more lives This idea that we dont generate immunity to this virus is also garbage Our immune systems will respond accordingly and most who resolve infection will have immunity for 1030 years|1 But the holisticprimarycare page looks like its gonna say Ive won a brand new iphone|1 The majority of new cases in Ontario are people coming from the United States|1 Its like my current manager she was like if you get sick take some medicine shell pay for like DayQuil or night quill I work in a convenience store thats serves food aka if you are throwing up or diarrhea you cant come to work or are not supposed to she got upset cause an employee was out for like 4 days because she had bronchitis Paid sick leave needs to be a thing lol|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 From Chinese social media so cant confirm interpretate as you like The person that donated masks too the Wuhan Red Cross is also owner of one of the hospitals that got a lot of masks Wuhan Red Cross tried to stop multiple private donators from bringing stuff to Xiehe hospital Which prompted an initiative to bring stuff to Xiehe hospital per helicopter The Chinese Red Cross in 2008 during the aftermath of an earthquake had some awful decisions and behavior similar to what we see now in Wuhan There are great private initiatives from famous Chinese which results in stuff still going in Xiehe hospital Chinese on social media are furious about the Wuhan Red Cross|0 Basically doubled every dayThat is a terrifying exponential rate|0 Shouldnt confuse perceived bias with a reputation for telling lies Unless you can show some proof that Chris Chappell regularly lies then you cant say hes not credible In my view everyone news source is biased I understand wanting to verify things but sometimes certain topics just dont get picked up by multiple news sourcesSo I guess my point is its the kinda of thought this might not be credible you should kind of keep to yourself and just consider the possibilities Because when you bring it up proactively but you dont have any evidence he has a history of lying you really are just dragging their name through the mud by casting them in a false light|0 Has no one read anything but the titleFor all the people saying but work actually read the page It says explicitly that you should only go as far as you are comfortable and do not lose your job over thisPlease keep in mind there is no right or wrong amount of actions to take Only take the actions that you feel comfortable with and that do not endanger your livelihoodDo not quit your job over thisHowever keep in mind that every action helps|1 Why If this is bad for trump and russia wants trump then that doesnt even fking sense lmao|1 I was intending to go around august for my birthday with my girlfriend and a few friends Hopefully things clear up or arent as bad|1 Sometimes you get what pay for|0 laughs in bidet ownership|1 but old people die|0 Zinc is a fringe theory that gets people excited because of supplements Chloroquine alters endosomal pH and that has wideranging effects directly on virus replication ACE2 expression and immune activationThe zinc hypothesis connects this PLOS ONEhttpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0109180 a mediocre journal paper entitled Chloroquine is a Zinc Ionophore with this PLOS Pathogenshttpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1001176 paper saying that zinc and another zinc ionophore inhibit SARS RNAdependent RNA polymerase RdRp in cell culture The thing is that in both these papers the scientists added micromolar concentrations of zinc to the cell culture medium roughly 1000x higher than the singledigit nanomolar zinc concentrationshttpswwwsigmaaldrichcomlifesciencecellculturelearningcentermediaexpertzinchtml normally found in cell culture mediumOther in vitro studies of chloroquine inhibiting SARS in cell culture eg thishttpsvirologyjbiomedcentralcomarticles1011861743422X269 dont add extra zinc to the cell culture medium and the virus is still strongly inhibited So while the zinc ionophore function may have a small role it is clearly not the major mechanism of action for chloroquine|1 I have been an RN for 20 years in the US and I have never seen anything like that for O2 delivery Thats a lot of people too|0 Alberta updated numbers on their website to reflect that 1452 people have been tested with negative resultshttpswwwalbertacacoronavirusinfoforalbertansaspx|0 As a parisian weeb this is almost a blessing I have a good excuse to stay inside watch animu and have little to no social contactIf I wasnt really worried about my dad hes in his sixties and has a chronic illness and a bit anxious because Im asthmatic and been coughing quite a lot lately Id like the confinement to last longer|1 Sounds like an American problem|0 But you agree it cant be ruled out Airborne is a possibility and all hospitals are treating the virus With standard airborne precautions not droplet So please explain this|1 Finally someone else who watches Fox as well Me Just got CHEAP cruise tickets 500 voucher for ship too Taking my Grandparents theyve always wanted to go to Mexico|1 Stating UP TO 15 mortality rate is not a lie thoughWhen literally no where has had a mortality rate anywhere near that yes it is|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Theres a hell mouth here Just like Cincinnati|0 Medical waste in general is bad for the environment Pandemic waste will just be on another level|0 I dont claim to have any source about the process for announcements My friends dont know eitherso I wouldnt consider them sources at all Hence the post asking why there would be a lagOne of them directly handled the patient in questionso no doubt at least one unannounced case exists|0 Good luck I just hit a year as of December 31st The thing that helped me quit was figuring out how much money I saved per month and per year|1 This to me has always been the concern not the flu itself but the ability to keep up with itWhen china started throwing up new hospitals to keep up with demand the world should have paid better attention|1 Well the opposite is happening here Over the past few days this has become a breeding ground for hatred towards China Bash on the CCP all you want and I would probably agree This is disappointing as I relied on this subreddit for the past few weeks Now I see it no different than the coronavirus subreddit CCP shills there and borderline racists here|0 If the CDC flattens the curve he will act like be told everyone they were overreacting and is smarter than everyone elseMore likely he will get sick and get tons of others sick After a year of carnage hell say no one told us Joe serious it was|0 Low prices on consumer goods due to supply chain globalization and shoving negative externalities onto our world neighbors while we get massive asset inflation and price inflation of inelastic goods such as healthcare education and shelter|0 And is the Human to Human Transmission from an Asymptomatic Carrier to a unsuspecting person in another country outside of China weak as well|0 Diamond Princess already has 4 deaths which is the closest you will reasonably get to a population that does not have selection bias I realize cruises tend to have more older people on them Given this fact it seems reasonable to put the lower limit of mortality rate at 001 or 01 That means best case scenario CFR might differ by a factor of 3001 mortality could very easily turn into 10 million dead from thisSorry to poop in the punch bowl but sometimes the punch is already so bad that no one should drink it|0 Fuck you WHO You fight misinformation by providing the public with timely and reliable information Not by shutting down peoples voices You are failing us again|0 How can the police force detain those suspect case without getting infected during the detaining process|0 The thing is no one knows|0 India had a few but no casualties|0 Oh in that case it probably wont be great for them sorry I did have one family member who doesnt love heat enjoy it toned down with a bit of yogurt but the sambal is still strong for people who dont do well with heat|0 Thats true but on the other hand people who know they have the coronavirus can selfquarantine Its probably too late to do that now but it would have been extremely helpful|1 white knights who think theyre going to make in their parents basements something that an army of engineers cant do more likeIf theres anything Reddit has is inflated egos raised by the American culture of super heroes and providential industry captains this has nothing to do with realityNo one needs people on Reddit The problem at the moment is logistics because of a political decision not to ramp up production of those thingsTheres no need for new technology here|1 Its not a good idea But the government has obviously made the decision that maximizing prevention to the greatest extent possible is not the goal Its not what I would do but theyre balancing economic and other interests in determining how to handle this If the response was a slider bar theyre not maxing out outbreak preventionIf we actually wanted to prevent this thing from spreading above all else we would have stopped all international travel weeks ago and only let people enter the country after testing and quarantine We would also be testing mass numbers of people not just a few hundred And we would be banning public events and delivering messaging to the public instructing them to practice social distancing Etc But were not doing any of that obviously|1 As far as I can tell they still find a way to say it is not his fault no one could know no one could do any better it is an act of godnot his fault not his fault not his fault fingers in ears|1 Im no conspiracy theorist but I think were getting into by design territory here Although the motivation is still unclear|0 Same situation here director has said under no circumstances can we work from homebut theyre getting in laptops and VPN tokens for contingency planning|0 The best defense sometimes is a good offense I think China is deflecting blame away from what I think really happened and it wasnt a virus spread from these wet markets I actually think this was an accidental lab release from the Wuhan Virology lab Level 4 biosafety lab I think what happened is that someone had a lab accident and didnt report it because a they didnt want to get into trouble and b they believed incorrectly that they taken care of it I DO NOT believe the release was government sanctioned I believe human nature was the cause to avoid getting into trouble and supreme belief that the person knew more than they actually knew How the lab person who had the accident got caughtEither the lab person that had the accident got caught somehow or the lab person who had the accident or people around the lab person started getting sick in ways that would mimic viruses that the lab person worked with in the lab How China discovered the new virus so quicklyThere are really only 3 ways to identify that is new virus is circulating either you 1 get huge spike in flu like cases 2 get a huge spike in serious flu like cases or 3 you get a huge spike in deaths from flue like cases The huge spike in cases serious cases or deaths would then trigger a lot of testing As testing starts if the people who are getting sick are not testing positive for the standard flu strains thats when the doctors realize there is a different flu circulating When China discovered this new virus back in November there was NOT a huge spike in cases serious cases or deaths So how did China discover the virus so early if three wasnt a spike in flu like cases serious cases or deaths The only way that makes sense is that they already knew that something new was circulating There are only two 2 ways the Chinese government would known have known that a new virus was circulating either it was a deliberate release or it was accidental release Technically it is possible it was an official Chinese government sanctioned virus release and considering that China was able to shutdown the virus so quickly makes is more than a little suspicious However just knowing that the virus is in wild doesnt mean that it cant get out of hand and cripple a country in a million ways Frankly no SANE government leader would risk everything in their country to possibly harm an opponent with an uncontrollable weapon|0 I think youre right The CCP is absolutely ruthless about preserving public perception of authority and competence If they are accepting outside help its because they now view the virus as a bigger threat to their authority than losing face which is NOT a good sign|0 I had a client come into my office yesterday after literally just being evacuated from her workplace because her coworker tested positive WHY WOULD YOU GO ANYWHERE AFTER THAT GO HOME|1 Every country should just close their damn border How hard is this|0 A lot people are saying Italy paid for them I just wanna say its probably the best way I doubt Italy want to receive supply for free That would put a lot political pressure on themselves Paying for them is the better options here for the recievers Plus money is not the problem here EU is literally robbing each others supplies And China still has the highest infected people Its incredible it agreed to sell to Italy|1 I visited many years ago it was very interesting A guy named Joe took us around He was nice|1 Wow A 13 year old could have put this together|1 I recently watched The Day After Tomorrow and was reminded of the scene where Quaids character shows the projection map of the three superstorms He says when this storm is over the world will be in a new ice age The idea of this virus as a storm seems apt as does the outcome When this pandemic is over well be living in a different world|1 So all other countries that closed the schools are idiots Our government is bordering on criminal with this thingI want to see the reactions if they start testing widely|0 Are people finally realizing that masks dont help stop the spread is bullshit|0 Does that look done to you Because it looks like a couple holes in the ground with some foundation walls partially made to me|1 Hope you feel better very soon|1 Is the epithet doomer really appropriate for a scientific sub Reeks of bias groupthink and dehumanization even if muted in character|0 Nope youre doing the right thing Keep that chin up high because a new battle awaits|0 Not sure what you mean by WAG|0 Again he is worth 4bn Much of that tied up in his ownership of Virgin Atlantic And that value goes down significantly if he is in a position where he has to sell assets quickly to supply cash into his international airline business Im not saying you need to have sympathy with him because of this but this is not a case of Branson sitting on a pile of gold and asking the state for help because he cant bear the idea of losing his gold This is also not a case of Branson doing something dumb with his business and asking to be bailed out for his own idiocy This is Branson and the other airline execs apparently asking for support to keep their businesses and all their employees stable while the pandemic which they didnt cause kills their ability to trade|1 Im going to have to like Craft engineer a makeshift bidet|1 You read the fine print I see|1 CA is different from my state but I do follow some homeschool moms from there that have addressed it The best one was httpswwwpepperandpinecomtagcharterschoolhttpswwwpepperandpinecomtagcharterschool|1 My companys uppermost tiers are working from home Otherwise you need a positive test result to get paid Im guessing through short term disability meaning if you havent been with the company long enough you wont get paid if you get it Id like to name and shame but I fear them figuring out who I am|0 Thank you my heart goes out to you too|1 Lovely Rita Metermaid|1 Dont go to work Boss will come around If not not worth the job|1 Thought they actually decided to cancel that May have heard wrong|0 Well no shit its a virus|0 If they keep prices artificially low wont that encourage hording|0 Yes I live in an area with multiple grocery stores Food deserts tend to be in large city areas as far as I know from HUD data and public transpo still running as well as shelters and food banks right|1 Omg Im so sick of seeing every person with a degree chiming in with their opinions like theyre facts Its like all of a sudden everyone who went to college thinks theyre qualified to tell you insert prediction here That can be really scary because they throw out their credentials which makes them SEEM smart but not everyone is an expert in this particular field Like you said leave the predictions to the actual experts|1 People still need to operate the planes If you mean restrict civilian travel what exceptions do we impose If you have a sick family member you want to care for too bad If you are currently away from home with a pet waiting for you to come back too bad If you have medications that you need that are only available away from your area too bad There are so many circumstances that are impossible to predict when simply saying just people|0 My pleasure |1 Thank you for this rationale non flippant take They are getting harder to find|1 Irene Montero refusing to cancel the 8M protest even when Madrid had thousands of cases and hospitals were starting to collapse Only extremists put their political agenda over public health See also Abascal refusing to cancel a rally the same day|0 How many countries are affected all in all tho|0 I actually cant tell if this is a joke|1 Its okay friend Just breathe Theres nothing we can specifically do just have preparations ready When it hits it hits The only thing we as normal citizens can do is just try to prevent ourselves from spreading it|1 Cant afford it unfortunately|1 As fat as I can tell no one is buying IsopropylAlcohol here Ppl havent realized its basically the same thing They just bought all the brandname sanitizer they could get|0 Its time to ban flights from Japan as well not just China Japan is about to pass 100 cases its just as dangerous as other Chinese provinces|0 I deleted my comment No need to spread or speculate on it if confirmed|0 Does anyone know what countries other than China are doing with the bodies of the people who have died Are they being treated as a biological threat as they were in China and are they being cremated no matter what the wishes of the deceased or family members might be|0 And please do tell us what you did to help|1 I dont think you know how viruses work They can hardly be classed as living let alone have the capability to think or do anything you claim they do|0 I thought they had found it could incubate for up to 27 days no|0 And an additional tax cut for billionaires|0 I posted unsourced rumors because at this point thats all there is I got ripped for it and then it turned out they were true The CCP isnt releasing real information The whole point of a reddit like this is figuring out whats true Otherwise just go to bloombergcom|1 Testing also will let you know who has been exposed and recovered and who should have some immunity This could be extremely important down the road with providing caregivers etc|1 We cant even heed the warnings of China from like two months ago|1 This helps the rest of the country When thousands suddenly test positive for it in New York the rest of the country will realize how serious and wide spread it is and governments efforts to deny testing will backfire They will have to authorize more tests to avoid a shit storm|0 I kind of wish the government would set up drive thru COVID19 testing stations like the ones they set up in South Koreahttpsampcnncomcnn20200302asiacoronavirusdrivethroughsouthkoreahnkintlindexhtml and in the UKhttpswwwedinburghnewsscotsmancomhealthdrivethrucoronavirustestingintroducedwesterngeneralhosptial2005152 I have relatives that are visiting from England and they came down with a cold and my family also has a cold now and although everybody is relatively well I sure wouldnt mind popping into a drive through test station to get the allclear|1 Too bad the government is still putting absurd regulations on who can get tested The CDC tested 77 people last week Gotta keep those numbers down trump thinks it will help his reelection bid|0 Im not pretending You can be left wing and recognise the ridiculous bias in this sub You can also be left wing and accept that the Left was extremely critical of the BBC during the election rightly or wrongly I am aware of how the electoral system works its clear what I mean by British electorate I have never voted Tory I have no trust in them lol Ill make my judgement in 1 year time Ultimately though is there anything wrong with what Im saying If you truly think the Tories are endangering 1000s of lives DO SOMETHING This is what makes me think this sub doesnt genuinely believe the Tories want us all dead|0 Image if people that COULD work from home just decided NOT to WTF Would you ever leave your home if you could work from home|1 True HongKong was also suppose to be at 100 when Wuhan hit 10000 Hongkong just at 56|1 Its always money over lives The mindset is lets hold off spooking the markets and upsetting other countries until it is clear that we have a situation occurring inside the country By the time infections start getting reported it is already way too late to stop or slow down the problem|0 Said it on another sub Mind the change of tone now itsX people will get infected Z people will die economy will tank ZIts no more might if we dont do They p0liticians not only washed their hands but also found a way out of criticism after all its science and predictions theres nothing they couldve doneIts not like their p0litical and economical decisions were the reason were in this fated way|0 In many cases verbal is just as strong as written communication when it comes to legal liability and such from what I know Also NAL|1 This isnt good|0 So sorry|0 And over run hospitals a lot of people might need ventilator since we have a large at risk population|0 But Puerto Rico got paper towels distributed to people what is the problem|0 Ive read that in China about 14 have some sort of either relapse or reinfection although most likely they were simply not fully recovered and the tests that gave them a negative were simply not sensitive enough to detect small amounts of viral materialAlso some older people may not be able to create as strong antibodies as younger people can and so might be in the same situation where they recover test negative but havent actually completely recovered and eventually relapsePoint black though we simply do not know yet|0 I blame the media From the very beginning they were nagging on civil rights and how travel restrictions and wide quarantines are draconian relics they kept on insisting the the ideal hypothetical best practice was surgical scalpel precision and not machete hacking That programmed people early to be resistant to quarantine It invites civil unrest if those measures are needed Some places may skate by well controlled Others will be a shitshow of epic proportions And its going to all go off pretty much exactly where you think it will inner cities that are warzones on a good day|1 Not epic Ill call the fbi|1 We pay 200 a month The statement says the total is 1k before employer contribution|0 Why are more people in real life not talking about this Im sitting here at work reading these comments and freaking out Why are they not starting to close down schools and work|0 RIP Jesus Corona 2020Gone but not forgotten|1 Give what Joseph Kimhttpstwittercomjosungkim says on twitter that bed is full some nurses unable to go home for 10 straight days I dont think its only 34 serious and 11 critical in SK|0 What I do is Screenshot the message and use Google Translate All you have to do is import the Screenshot as a picture and then you can read it Most of the time the messages are just warnings about Air Pollution I wouldnt be too worried since your not in Daegu Shit down there is crazy|1 Holy fuck 3 hours in the air|0 If this is true it would be wildly good newsAll the numbers regarding the infected requiring medical care would instantly be a lot lower because clearly our medical infrastructure hasnt been overrun these last few monthsThats the number that concerns me the most If we all get it at relatively at the same time and 20 require hospitalization its a big problem|1 Step it up increase funding I have a bad feeling demand is going to skyrocket|0 Was your comment not supposed to be a right vs left one Because it sure sounded like itYou can backtrack all you want but its pretty obvious where you were going Fucking useless people act like that Grow up This is a problem for rational thinking people not politics|1 Not surprised unfortunately Italy is reporting real numbers china did not This is a good sign of whats to come were not special or any different We might not have an average age of 47 like they do but we have a ton of obese people Get mentally ready|1 When Coronavirus begins to spread in the US many will not seek medical help at first out of fear of crippling medical bills or out of fear they will miss work and miss getting paid Because the virus has been downplayed to be like a seasonal flu and nothing to be that worried about people will try and ride it out rather than getting tested which will exacerbate transmission ratesThis will change the national discussion about the need for socialized medicine|0 So there are actually 4 teams of doctors and medical supplies sent out from China today1 for each country ofPakistan Italy Iraq and IranWishing all of them the best and countless of thanks|1 What a crazy bunch those SO2 guys|0 So Im not traveling tofrom Seattle or New York etc personally I feel like a complete domestic travel ban grounding ALL flights would be unlikelydo you disagree Trump hinted at the bans for those major outbreak cities but wowgrounding literally all flights would be something else It may be necessary yes but also extremely unheard of imoI may be wrong though|0 Way before last week but agreed|1 As far as I am concerned a lot of healthcare in the USA is just a moneymaking scam and has nothing to do with keeping people healthyYes I call it disease care This is the biggest health need in over 100 years and the history books will tell of the epic failure Just like how Ive taken my knowledge and education of world affairs and events into my own hands I have taken my health into my own hands Science has been polluted by corporations for profit and nothing is done in the name of ethics This will be the great reset Its us who observed this with open eyes that will be in a position to advise the new world were going to have to build Yes we have obstacles as they try to carry out this insidious plan but we have lots of opportunity as well Take your high dose vitamin C vit D and chaga mushroom Help others and be kind|1 oh no|0 You stand correct Finland isnt a scandinavian country but I believe op also referred to Finland Sweden however belongs to scandinavia and has a shit ton of saunas|0 No it doesnt take hours to transmit from person to person Its also transmitted from objects fomites that have virus particles on the surface|0 We dont think they care much about us either but I rlly wouldnt wanna be in the position of the ppl in the uk|0 Yep exactlyOn the one hand its a little reassuring because it would hold true for the symptoms being mild in most people On the other hand now theres no chance for the US to contain the spread our hospitals are going to be overrun more people will die just because of bigger spread economic collapse etcI hope people at the CDC are held accountable for this monumental fuckup when this is over|1 Canada and Europe all have similar testing problems|0 Amazon should make Prime free for people in quarantined areas|1 The countrys government and society should develop a system to get food and supplies to the people in quarantine The infected can be asymptomatic for 2 weeks and still spread the virus Anyone knowingly in contact with infected people should be treated as infected because they probably are|0 Theyre going to regret going i bet Stupid move risking getting stuck somewhere else during a pandemic If Im going to get sick I want to get sick at home|0 When humans feed animals that they are not personally responsible for this is what happens Same with cats|0 Thanks|1 Exactly they need to accept the WHO test kits|1 there is no home testing yet its a PCR test that requires specialized equipment not an antibody swab|0 Ive been here since Day 1 But I try only checking every so often Its good to have hobbies and focused on other things to avoid being on here 247 Youre not helping your immune system if youre constantly feeding it stress for 2 months|0 Their lack of transparency is what caused this mess Youve seen the reports of healthcare workers in this very sub saying they had no idea the patients they were treating for severe pneumonia were not informed it was the coronavirusThis is what OP means the CCP is very selective on what it reveals and every bit of information it fails to reveal to us is detrimental to the rest of the world|0 Thats a good way to get sick people to avoid being tested|0 This is going to happen in city after city and I dont see how that wont send the world economy into a tailspin The economy here in Hawaii has already been hit hard and our economy is basically the travel industry conventions and the military|0 It always looks so inedible I like corned beef in a can but never worked up the nerve to try spamEdit typo|1 Its truly remarkable how certain people are ignorant Ignorant towards the risk it poses to them selves and even more in regards to others This epidemicpandemic is not only a test for infrastructure and governments it also shows the boundaries of society and how we live together as a whole|1 Wheres Johnson with the containment reportLOL you expect people to work hard for what were getting paid Johnson quit yesterday|0 CDC cant even protect their own people I wouldnt be counting on them to be much help to you|1 You should go to the hospital just to be sure |1 I bought a non pharmaceutical grade chloroquine and am tempted to take it Think I may have covid19 but not bad yet|1 America got your backs teachers You taught us the right stuff we can stand by your doing the right stuff|0 Those evacuated will be responsible for the cost the person addedWhat does it mean Because I dont want to believe this|1 Oh yes New cases double per week We are just seeing symptomatic people who have had the virus through the incubation period and then got sick enough to get filtered through the system to one of the rare tests We are only seeing what the tip of the iceberg looked like a week ago Its likely spreading uncontrollably almost everywhere in the US right now We only started locking down significantly in the last couple days Before that is was likely spreading silently and quickly through asymptomatic people|0 I just reread that but yes this is correct|1 no it depends on the province people from overseas in Beijing will be quarantined for 14 days Recently a guy arrived from Philippines got tested and they let him leave while waiting for the results Today the results are positive We get imported cases every day and some of these people hide their travel history As we dont ban any flights I am sure this will never end until the whole world is cured Stay cautious|1 Unless you have the proper mask you most likely dont buy congrats if you do or the virus itself that mask isnt going to help you The gloves will help but idk how different that is then washing your hands with hot water for 20 seconds when youre done shopping|0 there are a number of peer reviewed studies that support the superiority of the p100 and the better sealing masks not surprisingly one of them comes from a govt mil lab|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or 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comments|0 I was talking to someone studying political science and they called trump response of coronavirus Chinesenized response If you follow the timeline closely you can find so much similarities and Im not joking at all It all starts with this is rumorhoax then this is controllable and we are doing a great job dont panic and people need to be responsible until things get out of handAlso dont be surprised when you realize you how many people inside the Chinese CCP is trying every chance they have to rip Xi into pieces and they are waiting to capitalize on any and every mistake he makes Think about this if China is behind such an iron curtain why dissenting voices always get exposed to the public and the world Youd be amazed how different factions in the CCP fight each other just like different parties in the US and how they weaponize dissenting voices to stab each otherI dont want to make value judgement on any political system I just want to say that people and countries are more similar then we stereotypically believe them to beAnd virus dont care about ones nationality|1 And Italy has 110 of Hubei confirmed cases too only as of today My point is I think Chinas data still look quite serious infectious and deadly even with entire countrys resources put in and Hubei on lockdown when the number stood at 500 it still turned out quite bad It will likely be more serious for countries with less than abundant resources and older population Korea has great healthcare and a very young infected population but the CFR is still steadily going up faster than rate of infection It looks like it will reach 1 Some may shrug 1 off but I would hate to be the 1 Its a deadly shit thats what I keep wanting to say|0 Never sanitize my phone Aww hell no Im a chronic fidigeter my phones be wiped more times with the bloody sanitizer on my desk that I care to think about At this point its probably 50 alcohol you could probably eat it and get a decent buzz|0 From what I read and hear this is a Social Security matter Hopefully preventing employeremployee conflicts|1 I dont think you understand what youre writing I see a lot of people like you demanding that the government release all information and start warning the public of impending doom The United States is a nation where division is high people are dumb and damn near everyone lives in constant fear from 247 media sensationalism What good would it do for the nation if the White House went this is as real as it getsDo you have any idea what would happen Without that message people are already freaking out Just imagine what would happen if they began causing panic The zoo animals would go wild You included|0 Even worst according to the whistleblower they are also circulating between employees articles from antivaxxers sites How low can one go|0 They treated my broken arm with an herbal patch So please|0 I mean this pandemic is a pretty big deal and many big things did happen along the way to make it what it is|1 Thats because research and development for erectile dysfunction pills is priority|0 while canada is still letting in flights from china and encouraging people in the largest city to hang out and eat in chinatown|1 However its not as simple as just supplementing vitamin D not saying thats what you are implying The metabolism of vitamin D is regulated and the first metabolite of vitamin D3 25OH tends to have immunosuppressive properties as opposed with the 125OH active form which actually boost the innate immune systemhttpsmpkborghomepathogenesisvitamind|1 This Im a therapist working in community mental health No way we can work from home it infuriates me that we are so at risk and are not protected|0 how are you ppl going I have been pretty down and havent found a group with others feeling the same until now|1 How much do you bet on it I bet 10 times more that you are wrong|0 Thank you That is good to know|1 That pretty much sums it up They didnt respond to my email about consensus and its similarity to Bullshit in this instance|0 Just let out a hardy laugh out loud in publicIts been a day I needed that Thanks|1 They will probably add them later on and also to the confirmed casesNumbers are lacking behind but change of the mindset in reporting is welcomed|1 Mama Mia Shots for everyone|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 How do we guarantee that the sick and old wont contract the virus and die from it Surely some of them require the young and healthy to care for them so isolating them wouldnt always work Yes its a cheap solution but its still a risky one We dont know a lot about it yet to make any conclusions|0 I dont think thats clear at all|0 I dont want to say that all of this should have been done in january as it really wasnt clear at this point wether it will go pandemic or not But ever since early February it was obvious that this will be the big one and every action that is being taken now in every country especially European ones should have been done back then We might have almost been done with the outbreak by now if we didnt give the Virus a month of happy unhindered community spread everywhere|1 HIV medication is basically strong antivirals to supress the HIV virus There were claims with no confirmed results in my opinion that they have an impact on the SARSCOV2 virus|1 Blocked noseWhat was your temperature|0 We know your friends dont care about the elderly and prone they or someone theyve have contact with will infect I mean being murderous is pretty selfish so what usalamandroid said was in lineperhaps even helpful if youll pass it on to your friends that not all healthy people are taking a Ive got my health so F you die boomer die attitude and are watching Sorry to say it so bluntly but thats whats happening|0 Keep posing if you can I feel like our local reports are the only truths we are going to get realtime|1 this is spot on how I feel great analogy|1 There is no stopping it now Its just a race for the vaccine|0 people wont die of economy crash companies would collapse but new ones will emerge quickly worst case scenario people will decentralize and live low for a while|0 Very good points Thank you very much for sharing them here How can neighbours organize while maintaining social distance though|1 Everyone is preparing for supply lines to be disrupted so it makes sense that frontline medical staff want to maximise the amount of PPE they have in the country and readily accessible|1 Thank you for providing me with these comedic responses|1 A month ago I posted they wont take this seriously until a Kardashian dies|0 All the carrier pigeons have the virus as well|1 hello fellow O it really is something strange to have this type of blood lol I heard clinics are trying to get people to still attend to donate but no one is showing up thinking its unsanitary|0 ya media coverage on Mongolia is next to nothing most people still believe you guys ride horses to schoolwork and live in tents lol|1 Why 10 days Didnt China increase it to 28 days 14 days at home|0 I think youre right They can say they fixed Wuhan get it all tapped down and when it inevitably respreads all over China they can blame us for the whole messTheir people might believe it but I think the rest of the world will see right through it|0 Thanks for posting this and taking the time to translate and link|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwweltdewirtschaftarticle206555143CoronaUSAwillZugriffaufdeutscheImpfstoffFirmahtmlwtridonsiteonsitesearchI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I really appreciate the time and effort you put into that and I did read the thorough FAQ that you linked as wellI still feel like I havent expressed my question well Assume for discussions sake I know next to nothing about this I certainly dont assume its dangerous and Im coming here after reading the people pointing out that the flu kills in vastly greater numbers every yearIm left wondering why any kind of visible response at all to something thats killed so few people when were used to the flu killing so many more In other words why does the response to something so small even stand out enough to draw attention Why the new hospital when the added casesalthough as you point out an unexpected addition to the normal medical caseloadare numerically a drop in the bucket next to the flu and could easily be handled by other hospitals picking up the slack in a country the size of China Why a quarantine at all when the flu is unquarantined and constantly rampant It boils down to all the people mocking the reaction to ncov are pointing out that the flu kills vastly more people all the time with a much milder societal response to that no routine quarantines for it and in light of their bringing it up I really dont understand it either You mention that theres a flu vaccine as one difference but huge numbers of people are dying from flu in spite of the vaccines so Im not clear on how that factors into the extent of the response to either flu or ncov I feel like theres some basic aspect of this whole thing the much greater response to a disease thats killed far fewer people that I just dont get yet|0 Nah when youre symptom free for 24 hours youre totally C U R E D no questions askedsI dont get where they got the audacity to pull this statement out of their ass completely|0 Apparently NO company cleaned anything before The NY subway disinfects regularly nowbut didnt before Airliners are disinfecting planes nowbut didnt before Before COVID we have a flu going around like every year and its deadly for the elderly Would have been awesome if things were cleaned ya know regularly|1 Im actually leaving tommorow im a 15 year old its gonna be my first time traveling alone should i cancel my ticket|0 Trump made it very clear that he doesnt want the numbers to go up you dont think that has an effect|1 Yet probably more true than we want to admit|1 China lies about everything We literally cant believe anything they say about the outbreak We might as well ignore all numbers about the outbreak that come from China|0 I dont know why people are reading this as me disagreeing I started it with I agree they should be used Im not a doctor but yes they degrade over time I dont know what kind of proof you require a quick google says they have a 35 year shelf life|0 Hard to know I do know Mediums are used most often by staff|0 People complaint about China misinformation Lol|0 Im not criticising Im saying Italy didnt have that option to take things slower and MAYBE we do Maybe Can you point out exactly where Ive said other countries have made poor choices please|1 God can hear your prayers from home but he cant get your money|1 I seriously doubt the doubling rate is 3 days Check out the Icelandic COVID website Iceland tests more than anyone else and documents everything very wellhttpswwwcovidisdata|0 Trump doesnt have the balls unfortunately He only cares about his approval ratings and he thinks that will get his base angry at him|1 Theyd be a lot more profitable if not for price gouging legislation In that case someone may actually have stockpiled masks for hospitals because market prices would have justified holding onto them for years or even decades|1 What does that have to do with anything Its going to be bad but not 14 bad Where it ends up landing between 25 and 4 is going to depend on how long of a period infections can be spread across and how effective treatment protocol becomes in that timeframeEven if the entire healthcare system collapsed under the case load the death rate will still top out around 4 not 14|0 i am trying not to think of the prospect of trump being very excited that democratic voters might be spreading the disease to each otheryou know somewhere someone is and its sickening|1 Holy shit even Utah has beer in the grocery store Wtf Maryland|0 Yeah not as bad as some but still pretty bad|1 reinfection can happen in all diseases it is very rare however and usually in immune comprised individuals More likely a false negative or human error|0 No they arent they will get through this as will everyone else Stop|0 At this point it isnt really early on but Id say you should go help your mom How will you be traveling to the city Long Island is definitely better than Manhattan so I do not think its a matter of traveling to New York City rather how you are traveling there Definitely avoid crowded places and busessubways|1 Clinically diagnosed category is not against WHO guidelines since they are not diagnosed by PCR tests but by history symptoms and imaging hence the name clinically diagnosed WHOs definition of confirmed cases is as you stated confirmed by PCR only regardless of clinical signs or symptoms The reason that Hubei put those clinically diagnosed cases into the confirmed category is because the new category wasnt created yet it was created by the new guideline on February 7thI wouldnt worry too much about asymptomatic cases not being in the confirmed category because it wouldnt change the confirmed number that much 1 Confirmed asymptomatic cases are rare because asymptomatic cases dont show up at the hospital for tests When they are tested its because they were in contact with those who were likely symptomatic and tested positive2 They are still isolated and observed As the Chinese guidelines state they would be converted into confirmed cases as soon as they show any symptom Now this is pure speculation on my part but I think this separation categories is done for the following reasons1 PCR tests are not perfect there can be false negatives or false positives What if those confirmed asymptomatic carriers end up being false positives and you quarantine them along with those who tested positive and have mild symptoms at the quarantine hospitals You would just cross contaminate those actually healthy people Its better if they only get selfisolation at home for now2 Tracking and statistical purposes since we dont know with certainty if they can actually transmit the virus or not to others|1 I am not sure what the government thought lying to the people and not allowing testing provided for them|0 Well know for sure if he keeps appearing in front of cameras for the next two weeks If he mysteriously gets too busy for that everyone will know|1 Exactly I was just slowpoking with that comment And still no one at the hospital have any single idea people with the virus coming in and out The thing is already global and unknown how widely spreaded waiting for time to tell|0 proactive and have dealt with this from an early stage I commend the government here and the majority of its people on taking this incredibly seriously The EU and USA should take the same response stance as Asia and Vietnam Im much less worried here and feel safer than so called developed cI totally agree with you here I am a Vietnamese living and working in Finland Even though the situation in Finland is not as bad as in other European countries I still feel much safer if I was in Vietnam And ironically we have been seen as virus carrier|1 We joke that toobecause xi are hard to dealing with old Population|1 Ive been saying this all along The number of people I see around here with this if you go to work while sick youre a fucking monster I dont care if you need to pay bills just stay home attitude is really concerning As someone who makes only 10 an hour myself I dont blame anyone making 750 or even 13 for going to work while sick|0 These numbers are mostly from hospital studies If you go to a Chinese hospital with 1000 covid19 patients you might find 20 of patients with severe form and 5 with critical formIf you pick 1000 random covid19 infected people the numbers are lower You cant do that though so we dont know the numbers Im guessing 1 of all infected get severe form If it were 20 the disease would show a lot quicker since from 100 infections youd already get 20 patientsWith 1 severe youd need 100 infections to get 1 and that fits the story of undetected spread for weeks much betterAnd severe can have different meanings Im thinking of I feel so unwell that I might need medical help now And thus the case presents itself to health care systemsHowever some of these severes will just think that fuck this Ill be ok tomorrow and they might be They probably have had somewhat severe pneumonia and shortness of breath and oxygen levels below 90 but people can survive that without any help So youll probably need several severe forms for one to show up|0 uuncertainpepperyAs a result of our initiative in taking on this complex issue OSHA on March 13 issued additional details making it clear that COVID19 can be a recordable illness if a worker is infected as a result of performing their workrelated duties|0 Basically it means it becomes an expected infection like the coldflu It sucks it kills people we avoid it But it isnt ever contained and just becomes a part of life so to say and it ebs and flows with the seasons or other conditionsIt happened with Spanish Flu after people built immunity fortunately viruses tend to calm down when they become endemic virusus only benefit when they spread they dont want to kill the host it just happens when they overproduce in our bodies A good analogy would be like humans on earth we dont want to kill the earth but its a side effect of our growth|1 Where do you live now Curious cus Im in Denver|1 70 is a better disinfectant than 91|1 I said probably Lol I havent done the math But for 3k for a test in the US I could go to japan and get tested and have a week vacation|1 Everyone thinks they know best but in reality no one really knows what the fuck is going on Hes probably panicking underneath and externalising it onto you|0 I didnt think about any of those too ffs Thanku so much Ill be careful |0 Yeah and all the people saying we should just work from homesure works great for office jobs What the hell do they want factory workers to do|1 Lmao such a moron|1 Translate this thenWow Two ethnic groups from the same region have similar cuisine Hate to break it to you but we are a Levantine group is Israel is mostly Sephardi and mizrahi|0 Iowa here as well The lack of concern is complete crap Pulled our kids out of school today and the principal of the hichschool is giving us crap|0 This is the best answer possible MarijuanaVapingSmoking but none of it is goodI have an emergency Juul I used to use when I got super stressed and sometimes would use it for days on end It hit the trash can last week as Im terrified of a pneumonia that doesnt have a great antiviral yet I do not want prolonged pneumonia and no matter what the actual percentage chance is vaping or smoking anything will increase the chance of that by some percent|0 The immunse system has the ability to identify common patterns of infection production of interferons caused by viruses proteases released by helminths LPS from the membranes of gramnegative bacteria Because vaccines sometimes dont have the proper signals the immune system does the wrong thing and eg create a th2 response against a viral vaccine|1 I dont think Im going to go Ill call in sick My manager doesnt seem too concerned at the moment Hes posting on Facebook encouraging people to support their local still We need a ban even though I appreciate the damage that will do|0 Depends on where your honeymoon is locatedItaly Id cancel But hey you are a grown up I think|0 Its an epidemic 2 days is a huge amount of time in this phaseThe latest study from HK Prof Leung was published today with data ending on 2501 Their R0 is 213 He also said that it is a speculation NOBODY CAN know the real figure until there is a proper full scale study of sick mildly sick people in contact with sick and general population Such a study will not happen any time soon|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I would presume that destroy the NHS is seen as a benefit same as killing off large numbers of pensioners apparently is|0 Clearly you do not know how to internet points very well|1 Can I ask you since you seem to be very knowledgeable and not prone to crazy reactions if theres any data on being only overweightobese and the increased risk I for example am a 32year old male right on that line between the two but I dont have any of the preexisting conditions like diabetes or heart issues associated with obesity Im in relatively good health overall take many supplements daily exercise daily losing weight as we speak and rarely get sick aside from allergyinduced sinus infectionsAnd as an aside thank you for your levelheaded and informative posting Its much needed|1 If they dont then they mismanaged their moneyYou should always have emergency money|0 fuck it we are Great Britain because weve always done shit like thisYeh usually to other nations Now were doing it to the most vulnerable members of our own|0 Honest advice call in sick until the mandatory quarantine comes in Do not expose yourself to risk You care enough to post here value your own life first|1 Good|1 Really Whats wrong with Atlanta Ive been there plenty of times on business and it seemed nice enough Definitely not terrible as far as big cities go|1 I will be doing another chart tomorrow morning and it will be comparing this outbreak to the 2009 swine flu outbreak|0 Got to hand it to the DNC Pretty elaborate way to destroy Bernies campaign s|1 Trump could lose the election which is the only thing he cares about at the moment|1 Looks like a decrease in turbidity suspended sediment in the water from less boat traffic kicking up silt and clay at the bottom of the canals This does improve water quality but its definitely temporary Source geologist|1 Im pretty sure the 3000 dead and 100000 infected werent trying to get infectedTrue Doesnt change the fact that a few measuress can significantly reduce your risk avoid public places public transport wash your hands thoroughly avoid touching your face while out in public go to the supermarket rarely and at less busy times eg workdays before noon And if its socially acceptable in your area wear N95 mask in public strengthen your immune system get enough and good sleep lots of hydration moderate exercise but not extreme exercise increase your vitamin D levels if you do get infected try your best to prevent the infection from moving into your lower lungs Ambroxol or ACC for breaking up phlegm No strenuous activity ideally bed rest At that point you might also try your chloroquine Maybe it helpsPretty sure my life is worth more than 14It definitely is I dont think its bad you got the medication Just dont expect it to be a miracle cure|1 More than happy to have shared on other forums in the past but not on hereA not exhaustive list but things I encounteredDeveloping a binding glue with a defined lifespan with the sole of purpose of trying to kill off the second hand textbook marketFundamentally flawed retail model that results in 1000s of titles being pulped every yearJournal model that is fundamentally flawed hey we know that the Prof at X Uni wrote the research paper but students and faculty at X university cannot read that paper unless you pay for it and by the way you cant actually buy the journals you want as we do special bundles only that have a massive margin and helps us improve readership figures and impact of the obscure journalsKilled off the second hand ebook market after failing to kill off ebooksLobbying the UK and US govts in support of antiopen bills and laws SOPA PIPA and RWASelling access to OA articles they dont ownHarassing and bullying authors who dont play their game they way also exploiting many academic and clinical job requirements to get publishedSkewing the data of journal impact massively in the favour of you guessed it HellsevierLobbying Schools and Universities to ensure that Elsevier products feature on the reading lists in some schools the reading list is 100 elsevierProfits margins that most companies can only dream of 1 simple example the top selling textbook for budding physicians cost 90 we would pay the printer less than 4 a copy Shill reviews or pay for shill reviewsCreating special custom journals for Pharma companies Basically pick teh research that supports that Pharma and republishAnnual reorgs just for shit giggles and redundancies and a love for making roles redundant the week before Christmas Thats what I encountered in 3 miserable years working there basically Elsevier always and directly works against the scientific communitys best interests All wrapped up in a ruthless corporate culture that makes the Pharma and Banking sectors look like a 7 yr old selling lemonade Oh and a toxic culture where institutionalised bullying is rampant Especially if you dont stick to the corporate mantra or voice dissent Am sure there is much more that has happened since I left I know there was an internal row brewing over how they would pay authors for ebook usage and it looked very much in favour of the publisher which reminds me of how little authors would make I think the average author royalty was under 15k per yearSomeone please kick off the Academic spring again I had such hope it would gain momentum|1 Its not by design its just Context Would you disagree that 10 in Minnesota 15 in Florida 25 in California 80 in Washington these are arbitrary numbers is more insightful than just saying 130 in the US The US is massive Not everything is a conspiracy lol|1 Mid Michigan checking in about half hour from Flint Crazy town at 630am in local Meijer store Paper supplies were being grabbed as fast as they were stocked Meat case 75 empty Tons of staff third shift stockers and cleaners were finishing up Extra manager types walking around store all whispering to each other with freaked out attitudes Cleaning supplies empty Water wiped out Not much rice or beans or canned proteinssoups left Not much milk or eggs left Store was crazy busy its usually a ghost town at that time Saw people with masks on a young couple Everyones attitude was odd Lots of folks clearly stocking up on supplies Would not be surprised if store was fairly wiped out by tomorrow|0 I am about to graduate which is one of the most heartbreaking parts of this for me honestly Im sad that I might not get to wrap up my college years the way I wanted to or say goodbyes to people that I might not see again I am grateful to be with family though I will be working close to home and might move back home at least temporarily after graduation|0 Imagine someone goes into your bathroom and spends a suspiciously long time in there You go knock on the door and ask if theyre alright and they say uhh yeah can you pass me a roll of toilet paper|1 Katarina ult oopsie sorry old people|0 Well i guess we all know why nowI hope China can quickly get back to work and mass produce it for the rest of the worldAll the papers i have seen about it only talk very positively I wonder why this isnt already peer reviewed and publicly acceptedPeople need some hope|1 Back when China put most of its major cities on lockdown its was roughly 110 of the world population However I would say this is no longer the case as most cities except the epicenter are opening back up|0 For comparisonThe number one cause of death inside Italy was heart diseases with 75000 deaths in 2019 thats 205 deathsday or around 10 of all deaths in Italy As of today Coronavirus is the second highest leading cause of death in Italy beating out stroke and cerebrovascular diseases at 167 deathsday|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 My dads girlfriend went home to Germany two days ago and I expressed some concern about her travel Heres my understanding of the situation from my dad after they both made sure they knew what to expectAmerican citizens and legal residents will be allowed back in the country after screening and I believe a required twoweek quarantine period Its not a hard ban but a ban on people with no ties to the country and judicious care for people entering the country If the issue is Spain locking down try to find a similar loophole You and any other American residents even if theyre not citizens can come home|1 Unfortunately it seems to be a good chunk of the western world especially America note I say this as an American in the southwest Its atrocious to watch first off the lack of foresight ahem especially with those in power and secondly that lack of empathy There are people who seriously dont care about going out in public with this thing because well I feel better so fuck em This is the exact mentality that is halting progression of the human race Whatever your religious beliefs if there is someone watching us right now they probably think collectively we deserve this and I wouldnt argue in all honesty This is fucked up and has to change|0 I wish that the USA made a law against price gouging|1 They were infected by the Chinese coworker|0 Yeah but even if you count the suspected cases as already confirmed cases its not linear any moreAnd as far as I know there was only a shortage im the first few days|0 What about it It is way more expensive with some theoretical benefit I will say I can take 18 g of that without a flush vs 10 g of sodium ascorbate or ascorbic acid But it costs way too much|1 Absolutely same symptoms at the same timeWalkin said after a quick listen literally less than 5 minutes with doc on a Sunday it was viral bronchitis didnt hear pneumonia and sent me packing with cough medicine to help sleep Had bronchitis quite a bit growing up never had a sore throat like that precede it And was told it was not the flu since I got the flu shotWas in bed for 12 days cough from it is still present for quite a bit until I got a second inhalerMakes me wonder as I drove up the East coast about 4 days prior to getting sick Could have been bronchitis but it definitely felt different than any bronchitis I ever had|1 Not the way I kiss|0 Theres also the fact that its been virtually nothing but bad news since the media was inventedFTFY|1 Well I mean lifelong smokers probably have more than 2030 reduced lung function and its not like they cant breathe Sure they might not breathe as well as an athlete but I dont think 2030 reduction in lung function is some sort of catastrophic result My dad is a lifelong smoker who recently quit and at 72 years old can run an 8 minute mile Im not saying thats some sort of unbelievable achievement but 2030 reduction doesnt mean you cant walk up a flight of stairs or go for a run Youre just gonna be a little bit worse at thatedit Not downplaying the severity of having 2030 reduced lung function but again its not a death sentence or something that will seriously impact your life|0 If I admire your optimism|1 Nah people with direct contact are being denied test|0 He is a rambling fool who shook hands and touched the microphone Just wait 5 days and see if he has anything|0 It depends on whether you get bacterial or viral pneumonia and how fast you get it under control before inflammation can do damage in the lungs Some people may recover without any damage others dontCOPD may be eventually be caused by successive bouts of pneumonia The idea is each time you get the latter it increases progressive scarring in the lungs leading to the former Chronic viral infection might serve as an additional host aetiological factor the missing link in the development of COPD httpserrersjournalscomcontent28151180063|0 This sort of thing destroyed the quality of the Syrian civil war subreddit soon after Russia entered the conflict It was eye opening to see it in action Its hard for the mods to act since they cannot know for sure who is acting in bad faith Vs genuinely believes what they said But over time most of the quality contributers left due to the harassment and the flooding of low quality comments|0 For the vast majority of us who have no idea what SGV means its the San Gabriel Valley|0 No antibiotics dont help versus a virus I say get some because they will be hard to get and you dont wanna be going to the hospital unless you must During a worst case moment|0 No it isnt this virus has only been around for 3 months This virus is at least ten times more deadly than flu and it is far far more infectious meaning more people get it so more people die of it in absolute numbers More people also require hospitalisation with this virus than with the flu so the burden on health systems is much greater meaning the death rate goes up for all causes of death when the health system collapses under too many cases This virus will very quickly claim the lives of many more than have been killed by flu|0 It must hurt to have your misunderstanding pointed out to you|0 For me Reddit was only for tv subs before these flurelated posts Why dont you recommend some XD|1 Because theyre technically not actually telling lies and China is trying to contain both the virus and panic about the virus|0 Containment is now impossible we need to find a way to limit the impact And yes that will mean thousands will dieWe wont know how this plays out for each of the countries until the second wave passes in Winter|1 AIDS was like that I think Freddie Mercury getting it alerted everyone|1 Ok boomer lmao|1 People dont get the basic mathematics of it Because theres no vaccine Its going to continue to spread exponentially Probably They should quarantine everyone for two weeks but we dont have a leader who is strong enough to do that They would rather do serious damage than take a short term hit to the economy|0 Where the fuck is the Bovril|0 Literally nobodys Just like its nobodys fault that earthquakes happen Perhaps the initial response could have been better but that still doesnt mean its anybodys faultDisease outbreaks have and will be a problem for the entire existence of the human race|0 Leave him he sounds like a selfabsorbed asshole and an idiot|0 No We were in the process of getting that when all this started and its been really hard to get in contact with his dr understandable She said we could try it and I believe needed to fill out something for insurance She was supposed to give us a call back but it hasnt happened and I havent been able to get through Hopefully well still be able to get that started soon though|1 lol if your boy Solzy thinks you need religion to be morally respectable then you shouldnt read his work because hes retarded|1 Chinese probably angry that americans made one I 3 hours Assuming its true of course|0 Im certain at least NRW BW and Bavaria will announce this very soon probably today|1 You need to understand that most governments dont really have a sense of how mild or deadly this is most people dont either They presumably are aware all the CCP numbers are fake and downplayed severely but then do they isolate and close all flights Is it too late already for that even if they did Lets say they close all flights and manage to avoid it the world economy is global now so theyd be cutting off all their products and huge amounts of food products that people need to survive What they should be doing is giving sound advice and not spreading misinformation testing those who are sick and those who think theyre infected and doing the most obvious thing which is shutting down flights to and from China Hong Kong etc and denying entry to anyone who has been there within the last 3 weeks|0 Idk about how things are in other parts of the US but at my school clinic I went in for a checkup and everyone had on masks and resanitized everything Ithey touched They also required all students that have travelled to China to come in for mandatory screening and checks which we now know are pretty ineffective but yeah my clinics are taking this thing seriously|1 Thats exactly how you guys got into this mess FDA for the longest time would only allow CDC to develop the test and CDC fell flat on its face Thousands of people who should have been tested were turned away due to the lack of tests Finally FDA allowed labs to develop their own tests At this point it is a national emergency RTPCR is wellestablished technology the primer and probe sequences have been published plenty of labs are likely to be able to run their own tests with pretty good accuracy You dont need 100 tests with 98 accuracy 100000 tests with 7080 accuracy is better|1 If youre not comfortable in your work environment there is nothing wrong with taking a step back from it Im glad your manager isnt going to penalize you for it I hope you have some sick days or vacation days racked up or just leave without pay|1 Tfl underground is fucked|0 cant work they dont have money they cant eat That sucksDont forget pay rentmortgage payments Utility bills too|0 yeah just horrible|0 Thats assuming they dont try to blame somethingone elseThey will|1 On my Facebook everybodyincluding diehard liberals who hate Trump think this is a hoax or totally overblown I wish I had a friend in real life who was taking this seriously|0 No I really dont think it is|0 LEGENDS NEVER DIE|1 It is a kind of big news in Thailand but since it is just one person my guess is that they probably want to see it works on all admitted patients before annoucing it worldwide|1 This is Customs not TSA TSA dont give two fucks after you land|1 Ah yes our shipments from Narnia and Westeros have been delayed|1 a good idea|1 I hope so|1 Good Blarite budget Pity Labour went all Marxist on us|1 The chicken little mentality is not helping anyone I made a snide remark that eventually the vulnerable would all be gone and we could go back to normal I may be one of the dead Whatever I am tired of the negativity that this is never going to get better It is wrong and driving people lower The scare factor is not helping|0 Could it also be that the strain in Italy is the more deadly and violent one|0 Seem like therere some 50 cent army in here try to twist the information|1 Thanks You too|1 Unless youre in seriously poor health youll probably survive This virus is farrrr from a sure death I know it sucks but there just arent any masks to go around And the stores have to stay open Of course if I owned a store I would take as much as a pay cut as I could afford to in order to give bonuses out to employees|0 Tell them to watch Inside Bills Brain on Netflix that should clear any doubts|1 Many dont take it seriously and think its just like a common cold or flu etc and young think they can get it and be ok which we all know isnt guaranteed Also unless youre in the know and have done research into the virus then let your friendsfamily know the truth then youre relying on news stations and gov advice which isnt detailed Im in the UK and keep hearing wash your hands yes it will help but this is spread via respiratory droplets as well and theyve never mentioned it|1 Fortunately the US will triage by wealth rather than by age or prognosis|1 43 she had some common health issues already this was very quickVery disturbing reality We are somewhere else in Europe and the highest quarantine level is just starting here|0 How the fuck did this turn into bUt mAh gUnz Reported for political frothing say the mouth|0 My parents have been awesome Late 60s relatively good health although dad has type 2 diabetes Earlier this week they began self isolating although currently well They are very well prepared dad even has a spreadsheet of all their food My mother in law is a different kettle of fish Late 70s obese high blood pressure type 2 diabetes Struggles for breath when she walks She has told my husband that shes not worried she wont catch it Crazy how differently people react|1 So sick of them and their trolls There is one up thread trying to justify thisagain|0 This is a man that can speak at a rally for over an hour I thought he sounded winded tired and weak today|0 But he already nailed that test in the 9th grade He was the best top of the class Doctors said hed be healthy forever totally immune to any kind of virus whether it was corona or bud light|1 Sure Come on over if you have skills andor supplies|1 A real patriot would know the gun is implied |0 I hope so too as it will be omg Uber driver with coronavirus we are doomed all over local media plus I wouldnt know how to explain this to my conservative employer who are all freaking out about the virus but in a business sense otherwise they think its all mass hysteria and bullshit I stopped with the Uber driving as soon as I got the bad dry cough but kept on working in the other job as I couldnt lose the incomeFor me it feels like an annoying cold But something I dont want to risk especially with my mother being so ill and working with elderly folks I got all the major symptoms for it and I havent been sick in many years I wouldnt be surprised either way|0 And why quarantine is effective If you slow the disease your medical services are more able to keep up|1 I dont think theres really precedence No matter what happens with this outbreak its going to be studied in so many public policy public health medical schools disaster response training blah blah programs The issue is that many people dont show symptoms for several days and some dont get a fever screenings are heat tests I believe|0 Hang in there Im sure youre excited for some freedom soon |1 And he didnt die|1 Iron 5 doesnt exist anymore sadly|1 Thank you I thought somebody should put them all in one picture and here they are A lighthearted moment in a time of crisis|1 We are in the same boat Ive had the same thoughts running through my head When we eventually do go out after the storm calms then what How will our bodies handle it|1 Ooh so maybe its a good idea to infect your kids now so theyll grow up with immunity when it becomes a pandemic People will be throwing Coronavirus parties like the chickenpox parties|1 Is there any value at this point in determining the true sourceEdit lynch mob mentality detected|1 Unless you work as vehicle technician I realized the other day just how susceptible I and people in my field are to getting infected I have no idea if the car Im getting in to to do service on has come in to contact with an infected person|0 httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDxTC7uV4ZbghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDxTC7uV4Zbgx200Bnot all are angels FEW ARE RACISTS PIGS BE Ignorant and disagree with me thanks and please|0 The genetics myth has been played out on literally every continentOh white people are immune oh black people are immune oh indians are immuneGet it through your skull nobody is immune It is a novel virus meaning nobody has encountered it nobody has built immunity|1 Thanks for the in depth explanation|1 Okay thats great but how are these disseminated to our health care workers Do they just get sent to the federal government and let them send them out|1 Cincinnati like a time machine set 30 years back|1 Right exactly Not a conspiracy theory person but it seems like if they announce and then started digging mass graves things are getting bad fast Makes me really worried about us|0 the united states needs to start calling this disease by its proper name it would be more difficult to ignore if we were calling it SARSCoV2ps it has killed way more than 800 what twomonthold stat are you looking at|0 See ya everyone Im now in Mars Good luck Dr Tedros in a week|1 I too have an average risk of URTIs|0 This study has some pretty interesting info and covers a lot of aspects of COVID19 The paper isnt extremely technical so I recommend at least reading the abstract One big limitation is that only mildly symptomatic patients were part of the study Drawing contrast from SARS which was confined to the lower respiratory system SARSCoV2 transmits much more easily because its able to infect parts of the upper respiratory system Most infective during initial stages after symptom onset While there was a lot of virus RNA present in stool they werent able to isolate infective virus Blood and urine never yielded virus After symptom resolution continued to detect virus RNA from sputum and stool but didnt seem to be infective anymore|1 I cant imagine smoking multiple packs of chineseknockoff tardrywallfilled cigarettes and washing it down with some tasty gutteroilflavoredstreetmeat would contribute to this nah|0 This This is just layman drivel but I would think if we keep our sick and elderly mostly isolated and build specific covid hospitals a la China it should be feasible to return to relative normalcy with some restrictions Although I do support harsh measures right now to buy governments some time|0 The title doctor is usually meaningless outside of their own personal expertise still dont understand why people prosthelytize them|0 Lets hope|1 Conservatives are the ones being soft banned on FB My account was getting suspended so frequently I deleted my account last fall I couldnt stand the bs|0 It is said well need Shin Bet or Mossad to confirm it lol in Max Brooks work that the Israeli state came up with this Tenth Man Rule Even if 9 persons agree on the next threat scenariointelligence assessment it will be the duty of the 10th person to explore any intelligencescenario that suggests otherwise This rule was put in place after the 1973 Yom Kippur War after an over confident Israel came close to mortal peril as a result of the combined Arab offensiveShit Whos knocking at the door|0 It is quite horrifying that anybody working in health care or with at risk people isnt immediately tested if there is a suspicion of coronavirus If the government plan is to cocoon the vulnerable they better get this sorted immediatelyAnd they need to sort out hand sanitiser too ASAP|0 It has at least 100x the mortality rate of flu 2 or more compared to 002 for flu|0 When we accidentally entered the shittiest timeline|0 I dont often upvote an RT article but theres some value here imo There has been a double standard Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day|1 Itll weaken your immune system but it shouldnt be enough to massively increase your risk of death A lot of things people do weaken their immune system|0 Completely agree|1 Ok fair point|1 que Nancy Pelosi evil laugh|0 Hospitals in italy are not at capacity yet They are getting close They certainly arent collapsing|1 Why hasnt something like this happened already Are there contributing factors that have made this situation more likely eg crossing a threshold in global travel or is something of this magnitude just a random event Why doesnt an infection of this magnitude happen every ten yearsIn the opposite direction how likely is it for something of this scale to happen again in the future Are there policy changes that need to be taken to prevent something like this from happening again Or is this just bad luck inevitable and unpreventable|0 IKR My first reaction was more than WHO realised What idiot Oh of course the ones in charge|0 I wouldnt blame the NHS if they all give up and tell the politicians to sort out the mess theyve created|1 Our police needs a new APC for all the violent communism crimes we have s|0 Nobody has studied this well enough to know with any certainty so I guess its just best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best|1 Ya but if we were Italy you wouldnt be able to get on any type of social media without some sort of chaotic video popping up Thats being said I dont think we are far from Italy but I dont think we are there yet|0 Wow that looks great I guess this is the emergency its for|1 You must be new here there are a lot of folks who are just now coming to this group and who havent seen whats happened so farThe WHO has massively mishandled the response since the beginning Were not claiming to be experts but we know gross incompetence when we see it|0 Unfortunately the US tends to politicize everything and tries to capitalize on everything too I am in a vulnerable population serious medical condition but not old and worry its more widespread than they want to admit Im scared It would be great if the US would start testing sooner and faster but Im not holding my breath If someone cant make a buck off of it they arent interested And it would make Trump look good if he could make this happen and the media hates him|1 Im self employed Im a carpenter working on a empty house 2 more weeks house is done and I will be paid After I get paid I will be able to hole up at home Talking about his financial safety net|1 Whatever happened to that 38yearold in Italy the first case I think He was a runner and had played in a soccer match before he got severely ill Some people speculated that the aerobic exercise might draw the virus deeper into the lungs|0 Theres a lot of articles its connected to but not in that PDF do you have the connecting articles mentioned or more I would like to read them if you have access to them Thank you so much|1 babies are so badass|0 Yes I am morning and evening But the only thermometer I could find was in the baby section Having fun with my Donald Duck every day|1 Not really Its only been about 2 weeks since main stream media began letting people know how serious this is And yet you still see the its just the flu bro and its just old people comments in a lot of the media If it werent for this sub I would also be one of the unprepped people I am so thankful I stumbled into this sub at the beginning of January|1 No some of us actually ARE paying that shit as much as it sucks to do so In fact a huge reason why those bills are so high is to hedge against the pricks who ARENT paying that shit|0 logical thinking you are only recovered for the statistic after you test negative twice within a certain time frame which means you need to not die and then sit on your ass for 23 weeks waiting out the tests which obviously takes longer than just dying|0 So this is what Freedom of Speech is in this sub huh Repeating tired and comprehensively discarded onebit conspiracy theories to people just as dumb and ignorant as you in an endless loop|0 Anybody whos been paying attention should also know Ted Cruz and AOC cowrote a letter criticizing the NBA after the issue with China in October Theyve had a mutual respect for one another|1 as I wrote elsewhere his post thankfully made it seem relatively minor and most cases of the virus tend to be minor Its impossible to speak with certainty here of course due to his age and medical historyStill remember every single 1 to a fatality count in any country is a human being as valuable to the world as Tom Hanks is and we should all remember the humans behind the case report figures|1 I figured it would be spread around to different hospitals and that the dead would be cremated quickly This doesnt look like theyre on ice this looks like 50 peoplein one locationfrom one day|0 A lot of the deaths in Canada were front line health care workers My son is a paramedic in Toronto and they are very well prepared but even still this could be tremendously dangerous for our health care workers again|1 What is the point of your post if you dont mind me asking Yes he got new information and changed his opinion accordingly As this disease develops thats what everyone should be constantly doing Thats how science works|1 They actually said stock up on supplies to avoid leaving your house if you dont have toCrazy|0 I see no ads on there You need adblock|0 If it got to the same level as it is in China I agree with you It would be difficult for any country to do better Id even think theyd do much worse than China as it would be more difficult to do many of the things China did like quarantine so many peopleWith that being said I just dont see how it would ever get to that level to begin with in a democratic country with free press and where doctors arent routinely put in jail for pointing out a potential hazard|1 While I do want to study for other certifications and ultimately a new job wild outlier events like these make me pretty thankful I have the job I do It offers incredible stability which means I only have to worry about not getting sick myself That and Im used to recession work anyway so even if I were to lose my job I know what to do to keep afloat|1 I mean it might be better for her to go it alone Its entirely possible in this scenario that you are the one to infect her|1 Seems like this is the plan doesnt it|1 Literally in the same boat Part of me thinks my family and friends are right and every so often Ill have doubts and be like maybe this will all blow over in a couple weeks or maybe I need to stop sounding the alarm as to not look like a fucking idiot in a month but then I seeread reports from other countries and I cant shake the feeling that some real real bad shit is coming our way to the US I can def relate And I really dont know what to think anymore Am I turning into one one of those people that believes everything he reads on reddit Lol fuck|0 i live out in queens and the streets are NOT barren People are acting like its just another day|1 Or the government could do their most important job and protect its citizens by actually working hard to slow or prevent an outbreak by taking proactive measures to stifle spread But hey what do I know Im just a guy who pays taxes and doesnt want to die|1 What youre seeing is some swelling and diffuse alveolar damage leading to edema fluid in the lungs and the beginnings of fibrosis excess connective tissue formation There is also evidence of the lungs getting clogged with proteins and dead cells Theres a little more to it than that but that is the basic pathology going on here|0 Most of the people cant remember what Trump saiddid a day ago or just dont care like himself too thats his success strategy Its somehow very effective|1 Everyone should be wearing a mask The main way people get sick is by inhaling the virus|0 Thats not necessarily true The more people infected with the disease the more that will be ultimately discharged|0 time to block flights from Iran s Korea and Japan|0 Does this madness have no end|0 And see SKs numbers No sign of decreasing Seems like SK is simply doing tests to do tests Not doing tests and add other prevention measures to stop infection|0 Small rural here too Not a worry in the world other than me it seems My dogs vet in the Chicago burbs just announced their giant annual reduced price clinic to take place in a few weeks we dont go to that but I was kind of surprised we have an upcoming appointment and I was wondering if it will still be on Guess that answers that|1 I think we need accurate numbers Tell us what symptoms people are getting tested for and how many have been tested Then say what they have if its not the flu or coronavirus|1 China has been fighting this virus like a war with front line troops ready to die because theyre orderedActually most of these doctors and nurses volunteered|0 Well I didnt say that the flu vaccine categorically isnt very effective just that we have had years in recent memory where it wasnt as effective as in others and I gave last season as an example More often than not the vaccine is highly effective and even in off years it is almost always better to get the vaccine than not excepting only the portion of the population who cant be vaccinated due to allergies or other conditions|0 The Who guidelines hes referring to would be from weeks ago I believe its archived Regardless if they dont specifically mention that hcq was a critical part of the Korean model thats a failureNefarious Try negligent and behind the eight ball at minimum would be par for the course|0 I work for a Fortune 500 international company It is in my contract that if I go to the press I get fired I dont see this as a big deal|0 As soon as you allow normal travel tracing will become nigh impossible in many cases especially if you dont have Chinas facial recognition technology Remember that China isnt able to bring their case count to a complete halt despite significant travel restrictions and a huge reduction in foreign arrivals|1 Everyone should be using moisturizer a couple of times a day anyway if your hands arent drying out I would suspect your not washing your hands oftenwell enough|0 No cases til April so wait Two Weeks Two Months Medical surveillance is good enough to find unusual flu cases and establish them as COVID19 in the UK Im not discounting broad spread but there simply isnt evidence for it at the moment This model assumes continual person to person transmission at a low rate at the start We have no evidence of that as of nowAlso Medrxiv are preprints|0 But realistically it was that global recession|0 This is why the world hates you guys|0 I find if also important that is possible is often not really relevantYes and in a similar sense it is also possible that if I start training now I may win an Olympic gold medal in skiing despite so far never skiiing in my life |1 Just got allowed to go negative 10 days on comptime if corona positive Already have around 12 days of comp time available a week of vacation accrued a floating holiday and about 24 days of sick time FMLA may also cover tending to sick family And I can work from home They also said jobs would be protected if we took off more time than we have available just that wed be docked pay Think Im good|1 Im so sad reading this|0 Me nor anyone else want you or your ilk gatekeeping our information for us Bugger off you loser We dont need your help stopping anything|0 Yeah the bizarre part is people were bitching about local china officials supposedly covering up things while Western media gate keepers are now doing the same thing|0 Yeh I started having another coughing fit and realized it was past time to take it Once it kicked in cough is much lighter|1 i do i just noticed that a couple of months ago i know i was vague but you shouldnt of assumed that i dont pay attentioned|1 Pretty much me and everyone I work with We have all gotten sick within the last month Within the last month I also went on vacation which included air travel and cruise ship travel I may have tested negative for the flu then but as this has shown us covid19 is no ordinary flu During my travels I could have picked up the virus pretty much anywhere I still have a cough but no other symptoms This is why wildly available testing cant come soon enough Everyone gets tested people that need to be quarantined are contained and no one has to be super worried|0 18 of infected are dead|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The scary part is most people who get it only exhibit mild symptoms like a dry cough runny nose and nagging fever 80 of people are likely to shrug that off as a minor cold and just go about their business until one or all of those symptoms become too problematic to handle|0 If Coronavirus had a 30 death rate of those infected what we are dealing now would be a picnic in comparison|0 I dont find it plausible but I can understand the reasoning At a certain point incompetence starts to look like malice|1 Socialism FTW|1 Trees are not contagious|1 So this is still not clear quantifiable data on chloroquine just a summary of all the reasons we really need to get some right|0 I couldnt convince my dad to not fly in from Spain I live in Germany He is almost 70 now and certain he is healthy enough so it will do nothing to him and he seems to not care or believe that he could infect others He tells me that its most likely made up BS like always Not sure what to say Fuck himI hope they cancel all flight to and from Germany but Germany has done pretty much nothing so far not even closed schools so I dont think this is going to happen|1 To be fair it takes a lot to confirm a recovery Time needs to pass and they need to test negative repeatedly|0 Just think of the virus like shit Accidentally getting some shit on your hands isnt going to make you sick Not washing your hands and touching your face getting that shit into your mouth nose or eyes and you will get sick|0 the fact that it kills people|0 WHO doesnt want him to take that position|0 They could be like us in the northern states It could be 45 F out and people running around in shorts and tshirts just because its not in the single digits anymore|1 Thanks |1 Im in the wrong business|0 Yes|1 Not testing just investigationThey have located 9336 known cultists and 1261 have symptomsThere is no mention of any nucleic acid test done Hopefully theyll quarantine them all and test all of them|1 And we have 3000 We cant get more no matter how much we will pay for them|1 Didnt you hear Travel bans and closed borders are racist|0 how about people with no job or in search of a job|0 I wonder why people want to go on cruises when there isnt an outbreaklet alone when there is one Being on a cruise seems like the worst vacation possible|0 BuT tHe FrEe MaRkET|1 This a great start to a conspiracy meme|1 I just started my business two years ago I havent hired myself yet because I havent been able to afford to Im screwed arent I|0 Some percentage of those recovered from serious cases will likely have lasting damage that causes permanent symptoms and possibly shortened life expectancyDo you have a source for this Would be cautious about making such statements at this point A very small percentage of SARS patients had long term effects and that included things like anxiety and depression httpswwwlungorglunghealthanddiseaseslungdiseaselookupsevereacuterespiratorysyndromesars As for the rest this is not an American sub and I am not American In my country we have free healthcare Im sure there will be strain on our health service but it wont be personal finances I do sincerely hope your country deals with the crisis to avoid saddling people with debt Perhaps this is the wake up call your healthcare system needs I think the biggest long term effect will be economic we are likely to see a global recession Its difficult to tell how big it will be but we are already seeing the markets react and central banks taking active measures to soften the blow If this goes on for more weeks and months well see supply chain interruption less people working public funds stretched|0 The FDA is known for fast tracking approval of certain life saving drugs with some approved after just phase 1 This pandemic situation certainly justifies that But yeah Gilead has a major head start on this|1 Thank you for your polite and respectful responses I do fully appreciate them in the full sense of the word|1 They can still infect their older family members Irresponsible fckers|0 Great game to play during this outbreak thanks|1 Another grim milestone|0 I have no idea except that up till now I hadnt seen any quantifiable evidence showing that any of the antivirals were working|0 Asked why the government arnt automatically guaranteeing that man has his rent suspended at least FFS mate what planet are you on|0 Actually I have seen zero data about smoking from outside of China It is like the rest of the world is totally ignoring itI have seen that study though There are other studies that claim ACE2 is downregulated in general so who knows Ive tried to collect the info in this thread including updates on March 5th and today at the bottom httpsiredditcomrCOVID19commentsfaluhvanexhaustivelitsearchshowsthatonly585sars|0 You can take medical leave with no pay FMLA makes it illegal to fire someone for that But they will be broke without the pay And we may see lots of companies going under from the financial impact|0 Chinese bio weapon in response to the recent protests or perhaps something that accidentally escaped from the lab I dont have an opinion on the conspiracy stuffThe thing about conspiracy theory people is every time they get more information they will bend their conspiracy around that new information and say it confirms their theoriesThis theory makes no fucking sense that this was a bio weapon from China and the fact it may impact ethnically Chinese people more would make it even less sense not more|0 The thread is very clearly talking about Canada Try not to get so offended|1 I have to disagree Would you say that you had a common cold if you didnt have any symptoms Of course not You wouldnt be counted as a case In epidemiology cases mean cases that present with symptoms|0 Hoping youre right It makes me very frustrated anxious and sad to be treated so poorly|0 Hi I share your sentiment People thought I was overreacting when I cancelled my vacation to Italy I knew we were in trouble a long time ago|0 Dont know who youre referring to but most european countries are approving paid sick leaves even if you are not showing signs but you have recently returned from a trip|0 I remember that yesterday there seemed like a smaller jump so that it seemed to be slowing down again Today seems to be the opposite|1 Yep seriously fucked So many nurses and doctors unknowingly being put at risk|0 Hoping to see this in LA soon|1 The US needs a president like that|1 But your assumption is incorrect they have clearly learnt from other countries and that is exactly how out experts have come to the conclussions they have Just because the UK implementation of what are eventually going to be the same measures does make them wrong it makes it considerd the exact opposite of what you are suggesting|0 By CO2 the flights I take to my destination are likely just as bad as someone as that starts at a port and takes a cruiseBy everything else yes theyre terrible They burn the same kind of fuel that cargo ships do whilst providing little of the benefit|0 It makes sense people should not be penalized for being placed in quarantine Its not anybodys fault for getting sick|0 Well were using all the money for the installation and most of the old farts ignored the call of the aettestup so its a tossup at this point really|0 thats a pretty low bar to set your expectation upon lmao|1 except if youre playing on mobile hahaha|1 Haha dont count on it|1 Im with you I run a small HVAC company in NJ that just had a nonexistent winter This isnt looking good for us We would be responsible to pay the sick leave and then be reimbursed through tax credits at the end of the year Hope you have that kind of cash on hand cause I sure as shit dont|1 Them not being real face tattoos is worse|0 Full text not available but you might have accessHydrocortisone Vitamin C and Thiamine for the Treatment of Severe Sepsis and Septic Shock A Retrospective BeforeAfter StudyhttpsjournalchestnetorgactionshowFullTextImagespiiS00123692281629625643Our results suggest that the early use of intravenous vitamin C together with corticosteroids and thiamine are effective in preventing progressive organ dysfunction including acute kidney injury and in reducing the mortality of patients with severe sepsis and septic shock Re the small sample sizeThe Vitamin C Thiamine and Steroids in Sepsis VICTAS Protocol a prospective multicenter doubleblind adaptive sample size randomized placebocontrolled clinical trialhttpstrialsjournalbiomedcentralcomarticles101186s1306301932542Abs1 is underway at Vanderbilt as brought up by clinician uInterestedParty101Trial update As of January 9 2019 the VICTAS protocol version is 14 VICTAS began enrollment August 22 2018 It is estimated that up to 500 subjects will be enrolled by September 2019 If enrollment continues to the maximum enrollment of 2000 subjects the estimated completion date is December 2021|0 cant nominate good candidates if the establishment rigs your primaries|0 My office has a great work from home policy and people are still coming into work and coughing into the air I couldnt tell you whyIll be avoiding the office for a while|1 Military law is the only way that would happen God help us if it does|1 You just understood everything backwards You know why people here were mad at WHO Because while WHO praised chinas internal blockades and quarantines they were against other countries making external blockade on china a method that was proven to workAs today WHO still has not lifted his recommendation OF NOT banning travel from china You cannot be more late and slow than thisCurrent worsening situation doesnt prove that reddit was right but it indeed proofs that WHO was WRONG Nothing is more definitive in attesting that someone is wrong that FAILURE in archiving a goal|0 Your experience makes me wonder about how different COVID19s symptoms seem to be from the usual yearly flu Ive had the flu plenty of times but Ive never had a dry cough with difficulty breathing and a tightness in the chest or the lengthy recovery time and lingering fatigue But Ive also never had bronchitis or pneumonia even as the result of the flu so maybe those symptoms can also accompany the yearly flu and they just blended in|0 httpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinocovid19infograficaengpdfhttpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinocovid19infograficaengpdfReport straight from Italy23 of people in Italy are 65 or older Median age in Italy is 473Its going to be a bit worse there than other countries Each country is unique and we cant do 11 comparisons between countries|0 Thats literally what happened in China Over 50 days of mandatory lockdown unless you were going to get food or I presume medicine|1 Were they cooked well doneWonderful welcome to the great US of A folks|1 Hes already proposed cutting the budget for the USs annual contribution to WHO I mean in the last day or soReddit was REEEEEEEEing about that earlier today because WHO is doing such a bangup job after all and Orange Man Bad|0 Fuck off theyre already starting lockdowns here Saying it cant be controlled in a democracy is a lie|0 Totally get your point and it wasnt meant to judge people getting free stuff more around the timing I know the people who need free stuff the most are the ones who are get most hurt by this And you know what I think 711 are franchises so it absolutely sucks this new business owner is opening a store that he poured huge investment into is opening at a time like thisTerrible time all around stay safe everyone|1 Poland has Closed schools for like 2 weeks|1 But can we stop demonizing the docs that work at the CDC Messonier essentially said she cant speak freely The CDC funding was slashed Its not the fault of the staff ITS OUR FUCKING INSTITUTION that slashed their funding|0 I think those numbers are shifting a bit Italy is apparently not seeing a need for the ECMOs beyond regular ventilators and bagmasks Check out rmedicine lots of great information about strategies theyre taking with patients in Italy|1 I bought stuff 2 weeks ago but I cant stop my husband from eating all of it|1 The instant you touch your phone its just as dirty|0 Im about to try every form of contact for my rep and senator in Oregon The numbers so far dont make sense given how contagious this virus is and also given that we have 2 confirmed cases of community spread Would not be shocked to find out the US is trying to suppress its numbers|0 This is in fact happening There is no way its not Multiple family members and friends have been having older relatives passing away or on life support from a random pneumonia spell A coworker of mine just told me a few days ago his grandma was in hospice for pneumonia He didnt even mention COVID19 as a possible reason So Im assuming she was never tested|1 Everyones laughing but when the Royals were in the World Series in 2015 the kcpd asked people to slow down crime and they did Not all criminals are monsters|1 If actual billionaires cared like this guy does we would beat this disease in a heartbeat|1 How are you supposed to check someones Kidneys for this virus It would be terrible if the virus can be cleared from the lungs but still hide out in the Kidneys and come back slowly afterwards|0 I see you failed biology|0 I know myself and about 5 other people who have been bedridden for a week with the worst flu they ever had since last November If everyone is talking about an epidemic all day Im sure at least 16 would have gone to the hospital to get checked out instead of recovering on their own|0 I feel like people arent talking enough about that Italy has much higher pollution levels than the rest of Europe On top of that everyone chain smokes in Italyobviously not true but a lot of people smoke|1 I have my ltc and a few friends under lock and key i did recently purchase more ammo Taking my boyfriend to the range this week to teach him to shoot|1 Lombardy ICUs stressed httpswwwmdedgecominfectiousdiseasearticle218995coronavirusupdateslombardyicucapacitystressedbreakingpointchannel63993ecdwnlevn200313mdedge8pmuac99095FJocslh9484dc414ec842fac71a157e1c0b77a8414efcf20fec53f993bdf458f4892749utmsourceNewsMDedgeeNL031320FutmmediumemailutmcontentCOVID1920Internist20reports20from20front20lines2020Lombardy20ICU20stressed20to20breaking20pointfbclidIwAR0oeUASozTEk7SU61wtN74wCAGBasX91zg51Ri1XnJEYvPVHWSkxa94Qhttpswwwmdedgecominfectiousdiseasearticle218995coronavirusupdateslombardyicucapacitystressedbreakingpointchannel63993ecdwnlevn200313mdedge8pmuac99095FJocslh9484dc414ec842fac71a157e1c0b77a8414efcf20fec53f993bdf458f4892749utmsourceNewsMDedgeeNL031320FutmmediumemailutmcontentCOVID1920Internist20reports20from20front20lines2020Lombardy20ICU20stressed20to20breaking20pointfbclidIwAR0oeUASozTEk7SU61wtN74wCAGBasX91zg51Ri1XnJEYvPVHWSkxa94Q|0 Daniel Radcliffe is positive for the virus|1 Thanks for the thoughtful reply and insight To give you some more context Ive never had a bad experience working with China Ive ALWAYS been impressed with how entrepreneurial and innovative my partners solutions has been I runown a medium sized business and have probably ordered 10M of product from several small businesses in China in the last five years Ive never been screwed on anything The amount of trust theyve given back to me as well Literally they will ship me a hundred thousand worth of products before Ive paid and ask for payment only when they need it I dont love the human rights violations that are happening in China obviously and I have thought about moving our suppliers out of China as a result of this but I dont want to abandon my long time partners for something their government does Anyways hoping this outbreak gets under control soon Edit grammar|1 This Now is past time to stop smoking eat better get some exercise work on any dietweight related illnesses that can be reversed with lifestyle changes Dont go out if youre sick with anything at all The secondary immune challenge from coronavirus could be what takes you from feeling crummy with a mild case to admitted to the hospital|0 In america they shoot them and then eat them They dont cram them in cages for days or weeks among all other types of animals in cages in crowded markets where they are slaughtered and sold with out any kind if sanitation or regulations Thats the differenceRegardless what Americans do isnt relevant to whether or not the Chinese should follow this new law|1 I mean tbf most of the suspected cases in Germany turn out negative There are a ton of them I live in Thuringia and there have been like 10 suspected cases here alone two are still being tested while the rest was all negative And Thuringia doesnt have that many inhabitants compared to most other Bundeslnder|0 Flu shot would have no effect on this virus|0 I cried a lot today|0 Well this is not good news It is very concerning that the CFR is so high|0 Then use your emergency fund to offset the difference|0 meh must have been Marina Bay Sands mall or something I mean Uniqlos or HMs are everywhere|0 Could be Covid could be people scared they have covid going to doctor for something theyd normally ride out at home|0 Thanks|1 Yeah its completely gnarly They must literally be going stir crazy insane with nothing and no one to turn tohttpsyoutubeZAd5hARjBCI|0 Those that exhibit symptoms should obviously self quarantine The problem with the 2 weeks incubation period is that no one can tell who has it With 2 weeks of cabin fever I would imagine most ppl can tell that they have something x200BTo add to that if reinforced by paid sick day I would imagine more people be willing to stay in if exhibiting something|0 Glad to hear that mate I hope your city will be back to normal within weeks|1 There was fluid and pressure in my chest and it seemed to shorten my symptoms when I used it regularly I used mucinex expectorant the blue box not the orange decongestant one Still taking it day 4 of symptoms Still have fever and fatigue but no cough today|0 It might be a good idea to create a Discord server for your channel so we can ask more questions and so|1 None that I know of Its flu season Everyone is always sick this time of the year Admin ordered extra hand disinfectant this week however but I always carry my own We are a low risk province still There wont be protocols until the local gov announces we need to implement some|0 Awe even a bag for doggoes shit|0 At this point everybody should assume whether they feel sick or not that they have been infected by the virus We should all practice social isolation to prevent either getting sick or spreading the virus more Testing for COVID19 wont grant cure to people Testing should be prioritized to those that are high at risk|0 We bought two off Amazon last nightbecause of your post we checked the order yep delayed not surd when well get them I guess Im not feeling so foolish about having to buy a freaking case of tp off the Staples site two days ago after finding nothing at the local stores|0 Cancel mass gatheringsScreen at airports I would personally cancel most flights but I know this will never happenInstall hand sanitizer in public areasId have started to build new hospitals a month agoBegin a massive recruitment campaign for under 30s to join the NHS to carry out ordinary tasks to allow those with specialist knowledge to carry out their jobsCancel bills for those who have to self quarantine Tell everyone who can work from home to work at homeCoordinate with supermarkets to ensure suppliesBegin manufacturing medical supplies which other countries will no longer be exportingTalk about whats happening elsewhere rather than pretend like were a special case|1 Its fine if you want to get sick earlier as long as you DONT SPREAD IT TO MY GRANDMA directly or indirectly I just think there are a lot of irresponsible people only considering their own personal risk when we really should be reckoning with the fact that our actions can lead to thousands of extra infections and possibly deaths Even if you yourself are able to just go about your business regularly you may be asymptomatic and spreading it to vulnerable people Its a hard truth|0 Theres almost nobody left whos old enough to remember the war already The oldies now have never seen real hardship|0 cruise ship cabin quarantinethats the thing that gets me a week cruise can turn into an extra two weeks away from home from the quarantine why take that risk|0 Why go God is doing their work for them|1 Im heartbroken for some of my friends and family who were cracking jokes and posting memes a few days ago They are now totally freaked out about the slim pickings at the stores and overall chaos Ive offered to help where I can and they will be just fine Were over here hunkered down watching Disney while they are having to adjust to reality all at once|0 I support this too StayTheFuckHome is a hashtag loosely inspired by an emergency room nurse in Italy posting on social media Its seriously moving and compelling at the same time Heres her post from March 6thThats enough I tried to be silent good in my place There are way too many people talking But after the umpteenth bulletin of war because now it seems to be at war I can no longer stay silent Because I as an emergency room nurse am doing mine I work harnessed as a diver I adapt to the sudden changes in working methods linked to the sudden changes given by the Ministry because everyone is navigation on uncharted waters Last minute turn changes are accepted to help each other out I see the immense work that ALL from the last hired to the highest manager are doing and I just want to thank It seems to me that HEALTH CARE is really bending over backwards not to collapse And what are you asked You are not asked to stay in contact with infected patients to do double shifts to work overtime to skip rests to work hard You ONLY need to stay at your home And instead Instead I keep hearing about people walking around as if nothing had happened producing new cases of infected people further destabilizing what is already at the limit Why WHY Because you always think that it is someone elses problem and that you are sterile immune to everything that the infected are OTHERS So I ask myself when it happens to you because if we go on like this everyone will be infected what will you have to say in your defense Listen to us for once PLEASE WE ARE DOING IT FOR YOU You fucking stay home Thats all from the trenchFacebook link httpswwwfacebookcomphotophpfbid3894803317198215seta103115446367040type3theaterhttpswwwfacebookcomphotophpfbid3894803317198215seta103115446367040type3theaterImage httpsimgurcomarWUCLL3httpsimgurcomarWUCLL322 hours agoThe scars are a sign of suffering but also of healing Stay home people stay home Do it for you do it for your loved ones Do it for strangers do it for the weakest Do it for us My life and that of the professionals who work with me has catapulted into a parallel world since the beginning of the week we force each other and put a smile under those masks that leave us scars reaching the soul We want to help those who need us we must help them we can help them you just have to follow the recommendations Were just asking this from you please Sara ColomboFacebook link httpswwwfacebookcomphotophpfbid3409686562391118seta719802144712920type3eidARAwfrxF90XQDS7WkO1C2SoaYcdN9OOxLuDIBBAAFeoh3HYUijsHL7tl50DLSeO1zo4PXIs78PsLthttpswwwfacebookcomphotophpfbid3409686562391118seta719802144712920type3eidARAwfrxF90XQDS7WkO1C2SoaYcdN9OOxLuDIBBAAFeoh3HYUijsHL7tl50DLSeO1zo4PXIs78PsLtImage httpsimgurcoma2hdpWEChttpsimgurcoma2hdpWEC18 hours agoI dont need to publish welldressed and smiling photos this is my face in the end of a crazy shift during this emergency before returning to my children still with the marks of the anticontamination suit and masks Closed inside a room for hours without being able to simply drink or scratch my nose to intubate and assist an infected patient before taking him to intensive care in a surreal environment Tired nervous angry So I dont care about your bullshit and where you have to go STAY HOME fuck STAY HOME Because if you do not understand what happens and that you die of Coronavirus at least understand that the places in intensive care end the anesthesiologists are always the same and the accidents heart attacks strokes etc continue to exist and we are always the same vulnerable tired crushed but who resist and keep their heads down as long as they can then maybe go home And we are not heroes we do our job And this picture is fine for womens dayFacebook link httpswwwfacebookcomlabastarderiaphotosa4612206807021281558567160967469type3eidARB1DLJezQMZwzzzShoGJsbP4MQQaIFN7fyPdRdQeXCKvwvfOE3edhxbdfYwBvyVqQ0Aigtt1qBytnEEHHRhttpswwwfacebookcomlabastarderiaphotosa4612206807021281558567160967469type3eidARB1DLJezQMZwzzzShoGJsbP4MQQaIFN7fyPdRdQeXCKvwvfOE3edhxbdfYwBvyVqQ0Aigtt1qBytnEEHHRImage httpsimgurcomajTaC6Z1httpsimgurcomajTaC6Z1|0 It could be more viable for health care workers to protect them from infection Maybe the close contacts of the vulnerable If it worked of course and could be produced in time|1 Yes|1 I would expect a documented diagnosis be required for anyone using paid sick daysSTDEI etc The only issue is we need to ramp up drivethrough style testing|0 Well we cant really miss work or get medical here in the states So guess Ill just die|0 A translated quote from his latest message to italians Lets stay further from each other apart today to hug again tomorrow Lets stop today to run faster tomorrow|1 Literally just the flu with respiratory issues Especially regarding the fact that looking at all the cases per death raitio it has about a 3 lethality rate Thats less than the flu But much like the flu it targets vunerable citizens so the young and the elderly are highly at risk Its just a hyped up new disease and China is freaking the fuck out trying to contain it because there are more vulnerable citizens in a country where there are far more peopleI see this as more of a error on Chinas part than a sign this virus is some mega deadly plague going to wipe out all life China is the one taking percautions that are good to keep its citizens safe but overall extreme and cruel to those infectedEdit less than the bird flu I have been informed that the regular flu is much less lethal because we have found containment methods for it overtime At the same time though lets remember that it was originally 15 fatality and within a month dropped down to between 213 fatality Eventually we will have a consistent cure for it and it will probably be just as low in the percentage as the flu httpswwwforbescomsitesninashapiro20200222sexdoesmatterwhenitcomestocoronavirus|0 This Its like when I talk to people or read the news I see one narrative of its not that bad people prepping are stupid sensationalists its just a flu etc then I come on Reddit and see articles from all over the world about other countries facing it head on doing so much better at testing than we are banning groups and even outright locking everything down like Italy If you only follow the US news youd have no idea how serious it truly is around the world Whats up with that|1 Influencers are gonna have a field day with this Remember when women started posting ass shots at Chernobyl|0 Also go for a walk while the sun is shining bright with its lovely uv rays Less romantic but more sanitary|1 Agreed its not her job to do a youtube react video The focus should be and was on the experts opinion Her role was to guide and structure the topics with her questions so that the viewer gets a bookmark of sorts on what the current topic is being able to catch on again if they didnt quite keep up|1 If any other coronavirus is an indication one thats very mild if not almost entirely inconsequential The other four varieties we currently see were essentially pre2014 Zika statusknown through sequencing and rare case studies but otherwise just an obscure respiratory virusThe 1918 pandemic virus for instance became a normal seasonal flu in the span of three or sohttpsimgurcoms1nr40W years That represents a drop from 2 mortality on an enormously global scale to 001 Different beasts however but we dont have much else to compare to|0 Yeah but I think Italy is being much more honest|1 This 100 It hit me hard mid December and I was out fully for three weeks I even thought it was a crazy sickness at the time I really wonder if this can be accurate|0 Its the soap that kills the virus by breaking down its protein shell not the water when you wash your hands So make sure to use soap properly and for long enough according to guidelines at least 20 secondsI dont know if regular washing powderliquid have qualities needed to kill the virus it depends on what you use i suppose Most peopld dont wash their clothes with bleach you know|0 Sure it has a higher mortality rate in the elderly but how does it get to the elderly Via healthy individuals Not only do we not know the full effects of this virus and how it affects us as a population AS A WHOLE AND NOT SUB POPULATIONS we also have to be diligent in making sure the virus does not get through the wall of healthy people and infect our elderly and most at risk Not to mention the shear strain that is being put on our healthcare system I mean come on the numbers that are coming in the hospitals are just insurmountable theres no way we can deal with the growing number of cases that are happening hour by hour Eventually hospitals will run resources and will have to make difficult decisions on who gets treated for coronavirus So lets just put yourself in the situation where an elderly relative has been diagnosed with coronavirus They go into the hospital they get the respirator put on and then a young person in their mid20s comes in also suffering from severe effects from coronavirus I mean science is going to tell the healthcare system to try to save the young person over the old person and thats not a situation that we as a population ever want to be in|1 Theyre saying this is something they can do not something they COULD do if insert critera are met but even if so if I saw a virus putting people on respirators in china and talk of a respirator shortage and I had a respirator fucking FACTORY I might just maybe maybe ramp up production as much as possible and offer a shitload of overtime Id send messages to hospitals letting them know weve stocked up then wait for calls to roll in|0 My post is literally arguing against low effort toxicity|0 I was talking about the wipes and the previous comment was talking about the spray I assume the makes 20 gallons thing is for the concentrate I just sent my mom some of that because its all I could find on Amazon and I made sure she knew to use it full strength on a paper towel if she was doing door knobs and stuff|1 Id say no one can make any definitive claims and worry is subjective but travel and exposure to groups increases your riskPersonally I would not go to an amusement park in California at this time|1 yeah the underlying health conditions like HBP affect a shit ton of americans Im 29 exercise several times per week eat a healthy vegetarian diet perfect BMI do yoga but I have high blood pressure so I guess Im gonna die|0 ok this post is barely coherent English What does my post will not be readded meanI am not making any extraordinary claims I have no idea how you can call yourself a mod if you think wumao astroturfing forums is an extraordinary claim with no proofDo you have eyes can you not see it happening|0 No corporal punishmentThats a yikes from me|0 I live with immune affected people as well its so scary especially with the fact that the symptoms take time to develop Ive made arrangements to stay with a friend if I wind up contracting it not sure if thats a option for you I also had a sit down talk with them and made sure they plan to stay home if cases pop up closer to their work They thought I was being a little dramatic at first until I expressed that I was scared and wanted to be able to feel like they would be okay and it was uncomfortable but it really helped out so if thats an option I would talk to themIf you need to talk about it more Im going to be up for a while hopefully youre able to sleep soon|1 treat severe cases without resorting to ICU measuresThis is the big one folks Give up hope for vaccine and start hoping for this one If that happens soon it will save a lot of lives|1 Is it because all these people are sick but cant get medical care that theyre screaming Or is it because of social isolation|0 Checknl out the CDCs fluview website They have a bunch of interesting data there|1 Dont be surprised if this makes its way into Ben Carsons Plan|0 Could be worth asserting that youre going to make your own decision for your own health HR exists to protect the company their priority is not your health My office is what seems to be typical lots of itll be fine and same as the flu There are a few people who uncomfortably joke about it then use hand sanitizer under their desksHR sent around a weirdly formal email for a 100 person business including advice for keeping away any type of germs Today when I asked HR what the plan was for dealing with the virus I was told the reality is that were a young company and this is really only affecting old people incredibly condescending when there are many of us who have existing health conditionsEnough is enough I Slacked the ceo Im going to minimise the amount of times I come to the office from now on this virus is getting bad and I dont want to end up in hospitalI was expecting this to be a big deal or even a little deal no one is allowed to arbitrarily decide they are going to WFH for more than a day or two But no the ceo replied makes sense and that was it No drama|0 I think the fatality rates shouldnt really be trusted either since Im very much doubting they are releasing true numbers|0 Unfortunately I can not draw and my current health conditions are preventing me from doing much in the way of building Otherwise I would be working on video games that people are waiting on me for lol My specialty however is coming up with novel solutions to problems so if you can find someone who can draw based on my description above have at it|1 This sub has been full of this shit todayWE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TEN PERCENT DEATH RATE LIKE ITALYNo no we are not Italy is ranked 5th for median age in the world where the US is ranked 61st|0 The foundation is already laid actually You can donate CPU cycles for crypto on certain chains and oracles are a thing that exist already Chuck in a smart contract and heypresto|1 Honestly I think its good they tested the whole team 4 people tested positive only 1 showed symptoms These are also high profile people so people are actually paying attention Confirming a person sitting at home with all the symptoms is positive honestly changes nothing in how its treated because there is no treatment And while it would be really good to get a real feel for just how many cases there are in the US right now highlighting some high profile individuals who arent even showing symptoms hopefully drives home the point to the stubborn public to take these distancing measures seriously|1 Its absolutely safer to reduce the total number of people in the stores during the time the highest risk population will be there People in lower risk categories still spread the virus The people running those stores are misinformed ignorant or prioritizing profits over customers|0 I cant find the exact theory this time it was weeks ago and linked to this sub I think But I found the following info experts theorize that whether a coronavirus infection takes a turn for the worse depends on a persons immune response The virus matters but the host response matters at least as much and probably more says Stanley Perlman a virologist and pediatric infectious disease specialist at the University of IowaOnce SARSCoV2 gets inside the human respiratory tract its thought to infect and multiply in cells lining the airway causing damage that kicks the immune system into action In most people it should trigger a wave of local inflammation recruiting immune cells in the vicinity to eradicate the pathogen The immune response then recedes and patients recover For reasons that arent entirely clear some peopleespecially the elderly and sickmay have dysfunctional immune system response that fail to keep the response to particular pathogens in check This could cause an uncontrolled immune response triggering an overproduction of immune cells and their signaling molecules and leading to a cytokine storm often associated with a flood of immune cells into the lung Thats when you end up with a lot of these really severe inflammatory disease conditions like pneumonia shortness of breath inflammation of the airway and so forth says Rasmussen Local inflammation can turn into widespread inflammation of the lungs which then has ripple effects across all organs of the body This could also happen if the virus replicates faster than the immune system can respond so that it then has to play catchup to contain the pathogena situation that could also cause the immune defense to spiral out of control|1 Lol in America the rich eat you|1 Yep|1 this is important to note even a 1 efficacy rate of a makeshift mask could potentially prevent thousands of infections|1 Its because he fucked a bear On a serious note its crazy how many Stars are getting it|0 My one coworker was open I told her its be arrogant to believe we wont be dealing with the issues going on in other countries and its not irrational to just stock up a bit I told her I had about a month 12 of food slowly stocked up just in case Worst doesnt happen I just dont have to go shopping for a while She agreed and then started shopping when the Italy started locking down|0 I live in a european country with one of the highest tax burden in the world and we pay deductibles out of our asses Max 2500 a monthits a bit more complicated than that though So where was i wrong I was correcting someone and yet again i get downvoted and people replying to me that deductibles are not real outside of US They are the typical bernietards that believe bernies lies|0 The lady in Japan that tested positive again developed a sore throat and chest pain|0 I apologize|1 My boss told me today I have to stop spreading fear Im like wtf These people keep asking me how I feel about the whole thing and I give my honest answer this is going to get a lot worse we will be on Italys level no way around it just give it time|0 corona themed music I wonder what kind of racist DJ made that headline|0 Why would that cost him He doesnt have a crystal ball IRS understandable he was trying to calm the country downWhat isnt understandable is the complete clusterfuck the CDC has been Its been a disaster and I do blame some of that on the administration just because its his administration Although I dont think they would have done any better under any other administration|0 It literally was Thats why almost no one over the age of 40 died from the Spanien flu Almost all deaths was 2040 years olds without the antibodies|0 Aint no sunshine when shes gone|0 I think I remember reading that the virus is not particularly unstable so this is less likely|1 Me neither This is just my original username from when I started using Reddit Almost 11 years old Cheers to that shit eh|1 You may want to contact a midwife if possible and consider a home birth|1 Oh god no Our great hope|1 Allergic to rice My cupboards are all aboard to pasta town|0 The lack of awareness about whos infected and where makes it look like were overreactingI mean my city has 4 confirmed cases Thats basically 0 of the populationIf you assumed thats the true number of people who have it and youre told that mortality is 14 youd be forgiven for thinking this isnt a big dealIm beginning to think the actual number is probably already in the thousands which if it is well have hundreds of new cases hit the hospitals before April and by that time 1000s of infections will have grown to 10s of thousands And then we start planning funerals|1 I wouldnt call this ingenuity lol|1 Politics and health shouldnt mix Thats what Ffs our president is a moron isnt he|0 no thats more propaganda the terrible deadly decisions made in china were coming from the top|0 I completely agree I am hoping this will be a learning experience for us all to grow and create a better humanity|1 Thats ridiculous man This is gonna get bad but not Hey guys Gregg might still have some canned spam left Lets go murder him and take it bad Even in the apocalypse no one is going to be risking bodily harm venturing out trying to steal canned shit|0 Yeah check out this link and scroll to the map in the bottom now it just says either yes or no per state in regards to if the virus is there or nothttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcasesinushtml|1 Exactly like climate change|1 Only 200 more cases just wash your hands guys youre fine|1 There was a joke on the website of China one month ago showing how panic Chinese are towards this COVID19A man felt trouble in breathing and was scared that he might got the coronavirus infection Later he went to the hospital and was given a CT scan Whats the analysis resultDamn lucky its not the coronavirus just lung cancerThis seemed not very related but this virus is really harmful especially for the populations with diseases We knew so little about it and could do barely nothing for treatment and thats why Chinese and nowadays Italy people are so scared RIP for all the people died in this pandemic|0 What I dont understand about those predictions is then what Does the virus just disappear after infecting 70 Or is the idea that we are expected to develop enough antibodies as a herd to have it not be as much of a threat as before There seems to be some builtin assumption that while the situation may get extremely bad for a period of time there will be a day in which we no longer have to worry about these quarantine measures for the virus What is that day based upon|0 My takeaways from the conferenceThere are plans for largescale quarantinesTravel related companies will be hurtIts well under controlIt may get a little biggerThe Democrats are responsible for the stocks losses not COVID19In Ebola you disintegrated Make Brazil Great Again|1 I think as with Ukraine Trump is going to do a quid pro quo and extort NY State to withdraw all legal cases against him and put his logo on the state flag before giving us the needed aid|1 Ive heard theyre controlling the number of people who can enter the supermarket at the same time couldnt they do the same with parks I honestly cant imagine not even being able to take a walk outside for months My understanding is that parks being open air spaces should be safe if there are very few people around no|1 I know Nextdoor has been mentioned but how else can we help if we are surrounded by young people We prepared my parents and inlaws and I know they have already given some things to friends but they are all in the 6075 range and healthy I would give up some items to an elderly person who needs it more but how do we find them I imagine if they are on reddit they also know how to order online etc|1 About two weeks ago I bought one of those 02 finger pulse devices It said my 02 levels were around 83 I thought it was broken but the next day I tested it on other people they were all above 97 I was thinking I do have a mild headache and I got out of breath pretty fast that morning carrying some boxes into the the house And I did have a slight cough that felt more like an allergy than anything elseA couple days later I was back to normal Its been totally normal since then Which got me to thinking how many of us are sick without really knowing it Just blaming it how we feel on lack of sleep not enough caffeine or feeling depressed I really have no idea if I was sick or not|0 To expand on the bike fall scenario the top two surgeons and some nurses at your hospital are ill with Covid19 so you get operated on by a thirdrate overworked surgeon the nurses attending are exhausted your outcome from the bike fall will likely be worse than it would have been in a regular situation|0 Amen brother All the smaller cities around Canada are not ready for an outbreak here yet health officials keep saying its just a flu|0 The government isnt as bad as most media makes it seem For the vast majority of people makes really no significant difference|1 I just watched a video about some elderly folks from the Diamond Princess who were infected on the ship and were still testing positive 28 days laterSo it seems like this is much more likely just a longlasting virus rather than reinfectionhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvH2E1t3yMXgEAlso China extended their quarantine from 14 to 28 days a while back|1 Trump is so owned by him that we will never see Putin get criticized for this|0 A lot of people kinda just resigned to the idea theyll get it Worrying and watching the trainwreck about to happen wears you down Living life staying active and fighting it if it happens sounds better to many than shutting the world out for a few months after its too late to safely doomsday prep with no guarantee theyll be safe|1 The point of quarantine is triage it allows the neighboring cities and towns to prepare and slow the number of sick entering until they cant stop it any longer Slow the curve is now the game plan|0 Shes speeding up the Darwinism process during that rant lol|1 Very touching and great message from GuinesshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvGWVW5p62sO8|1 Correct Their knowledge of exponential growth remains on par with yours|1 Theres no real push to evolution towards a less deadly variant its about long term convergence More virulent less lethal strains are more likely to continue to spread meaning over time theyll be more prevalent|0 thank you for compiling this|1 This good news is itself a conspiracy against our own conspiracies A metaconspiracy if you will|0 Well the WHO experts are saying this could last well into next year or longer so Id still probably just hold out on that|1 Yay being from the south helped me for once|1 They dont have the facilities to do millions of tests They have recently I think this week given the go ahead to do the testing at state departments of health and at local hospitals They were on their heels on this one but are starting to get their shit together|0 Is UVGI a specific frequency intensity duration of UV exposureFor example I built a UV chamber using UV LED strips to cure my 3D resin prints Would this or something like it work as a UV sanitizing chamber or does it need to be very high intensity|1 Lol|1 I had kind of the same until two days ago then you like accept the situation and just hope for the best and panic goes a bit down In my experience|1 I cant be bothered arguing with addicts its always going to be in bad faith because the reward system is going to get you to defend it at all costs for that yummy dopaminebeer hamburgers motorcycles skydivingbeer hamburgers motorcycles and skydiving are all great fun Go for it Also the only one of those that is at major risk of harming another is Alcohol and is heavily restricted Cigarettes and vapers are little death sticks addictive for the point of addiction|1 Exactly the people who say well Im a healthy as a horse and think they can fight it are not taking into account that everyone they come in contact with for two weeks could also receive the virus because of them Think of all the people you come in contact with in the span of two weeks|1 If youre under 50 and have zero other health issues Unfortunately thats not everyone If you have diabetes asthma cardiac issues lung issues smoked vaped ect ect then youre at serious risk too|0 What happens if you cant pay for it for two months how will you pay for the the next one plus the two months you are behind|1 We wont worry before there is confirmed community transmission without exposure to someone from overseas and we wont test anyone without exposure to someone overseas Western Countries|1 Godspeed Please keep yourself isolated and us updated Thank you for being responsible and insisting on testing Youre awesome|1 Tasty Yes Thats the spirit|1 everyone stop everything Dont go anywhere Dont do anything Just stay home and play video games|1 CyberknifeThe CyberKnife System is a radiation therapy device manufactured by Accuray Incorporated The system is used to deliver radiosurgery for the treatment of benign tumors malignant tumors and other medical conditions PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Were 1 step from total lockdownWhat else does he want us to do|1 I just spoke to my neighbour by yelling across the street No face to face right now The only person you should be in close contact with is someone you live with|0 The VA is the best reason to avoid letting the government run the whole healthcare system|1 I think that depends heavily on where you live in China Some cities like Shenzhen has more migrant workers so they go back than cities like Chen du etc|1 Half the country despises the guy now because of politics He knew that going into it his brand would suffer This wasnt a monetary decision He would be making more money if he didnt run|0 Eh Couldnt they have just limited you to one bottle like countless other stores have doneThe system they implemented sounds like it allows the rich to hoard while driving everyone else out of the market|1 Illegal wages in CA|0 Damn Good luck Hope the state steps up their game Florida is our most atrisk state|1 Simple logic the media is failing to understand|0 I started smoking weed about a year ago and now I smoke a fat doink everyday Should I stop with my beautiful obsession |1 Its the opposite Social safety nets typically run more efficiently in small homogeneous populations such as the Nordic countries due to the high trust nature of such societies A European Union universal healthcare isnt going automatically work better than Norways Vermont has twice the population of Iceland which has a universal healthcareHowever the only reason any of those systems function is because they price control technologies and medications which forces drug companies to offset them by increased prices in the places such as the US that do not price controlIf you want to lower costs in the US you need to force European countries to start paying more for their medications|1 This is the best post on reddit right now The panic is so out of control Be smart treat it like the flu dont panic|1 North Korea quarantines for 30 days suddenly makes senseThere was a report of travel to Wuhan 45 days ago results in the onset that many days later in some report I seen I have my doubts|0 The Litany Against Fear Really awesome when you read it Really really fucking awkward when someone spouts it off wordforword in real life Irritating smirk optional|0 Insanity I flew into Houston from Japan last week thinking I would get some kind of health screening and I basically waited a minute in line and got a welcome back from the customs officer|0 I want to get off Mr Bones Wild RidehttpsimgurcomgalleryWxzbl|1 Congrats would you like a cookie for being the exception|1 Even if it is just like the flu Who the fuck wants to get the flu Especially if youre an older person theres a chance of death Yeah real dumb|0 Personal good news My university just canceled classes for two weeks Then it is going to go online This is good because I have time to fix my mental health and study for exams Also this will save me money on gas and less miles on my car My university closed not because there was a case but because they are taking preventative measures Which is good|1 This is what happened with the early numbers in China The first formal study found a mortality rate of 15 because of course early on the cases theyre most likely to find are the very ill people|0 OTHER things cant get treatment THAT is a FUCKING problem She still doesnt get it She works as a secretary in a hospital right now and wants to be an RT and she does not get it Im so done even trying|0 Not really below certain concentration test will came negative And he was basically spot on everything else in early feb|0 here in The Netherlands there are tons of commercials on TV for the HollandAmerica cruises i cant imagine anyone whod like to join a cruise right now|1 It does sound wonderful no doubt I would have fought tooth and nail to get into that class when I was in school|0 THE RISK TO AMERICANS REMAINS LOWthis can change rapidly|0 Yay virus spreader party cancelled|1 The prime minister of The Netherlands just decided not to close schools because children dont have a great risk of having the coronavirus and the impact on our society would be too big My question is wont there still be a big risk by keeping the schools open Children can still catch and spread the vrius onto other people and the fatality rate might be low on children but with many children catching the virus the fatalities can still run very high What are your views on this Am I overreacting or simply wrong by assuming that keeping the schools open will induce a great risk of the coronavirus spreading faster|0 Runs on the Grocery stores general confusion etcAnd some dipshit on Reddit would moan that its too much too fast|0 If you look at the statshttpprntscrcomri8pnm 482 of people voted Hillary while only 461 voted Trump With 57 of people voting for other candidates The issue is we are a Republic not a democracy While he did not get the popular vote he did win the electoral vote 304 to 227httpsenwikipediaorgwikiUnitedStatesElectoralCollege The members of the Electoral Collage do not need to vote alongside the wishes of the people they are representing unless a state law forces them to|1 I hate to break it to you Wtf is wrong with you people|0 I didnt even realize he was 48 Hes aging really well lol|1 I understood The number of people needing hospitalization is pretty high If it was in pointtens of it would be different but up to 20 is pretty high For this case I am very worried about UK and their herd immunity plan Even if majority of population get it if they get it at once no way they will find millions of hospital beds and will need to make field hospitals 5 require ICU care Thats even worse|1 So Trump and Pence got this Why dont they admit it|0 Because no one wants to be responsible of making that call to lose 05 since if successful wed never be able to confirm if the 5 would have happened I hope someone at the leadership level whether it be one of our leaders or at the world level grows a pair and makes an official decisionrecommendation soon|1 My partner was telling me not to post since sometimes I received hateful racism comments and I got very upset I am known for having fragile nerves I said no I have to I want peoples stories to be heardthis is what I need to do|0 Unfortunately it is those people that cough all over everything and get the rest of us sick Like the drunk driver that survives and kills everyone in the other car|0 Just small business loans Anything else important|1 As soon as they give up the notion of still having the olympics this year then they will make better decisions about testing people But for now they cant do both and still expect people to go to their olympicseven though I still would have cancelled my plans at this point if I were attending Tough spot for the athletes|1 Me too But Im a server Face to face contact all day long And Im showing symptoms Im calling in the rest of the week Fuck em Im not gonna be SW Ohios patient zero|0 If the pandemic gives us a break in the summer Oktoberfest will be fine Its still pretty warm here when that happens|1 Then realest followed by OMGsoreal and then we all die|0 Jeffrey Epstein didnt kill himself|1 They should be made to sit and watch people die or corona virus|0 Lol This couldnt be farther from the truth|1 Ok lets pretend Im talking about this without having watched or read anything Why dont you link some great documentaries and videos so people can learn from North Koreans|1 if u need it go to a store early in the morning when they are stocking it After a week or two there will be plenty because all the morons that bought it up wont need any for awhile|0 I thought Japan safe and professional|1 You should not have gone to the clinic as a walk in There should be a protocol in place where people call ahead and they are directed to a special place so as not to spread this People really should not be doing thisThat said I hope you do not have it|1 They should summon med students instead of retireesCouple other comments in thread says theyre doing that too Frontline triaging by the sounds of it Which makes sense given that 20 something are least risk|1 I hope so too Obviously the main thing which vulnerable groups such as the elderly need to do is stay indoors until this blows over|1 Its got to be a shitty job In every country Ive visited the immigration people look like theyve died inside Its a secure job but |0 While i will agree that on cases such as this it does present problems The reverse is also true China is facing health problems just from the pollution caused by all the manufacturing they doSo we could pollute ourselves or pay others to pollute themselves We are choosing the later While at the same time conserving our own natural resources|0 8 Someone bought huge amount of forsythia producer stocks|1 Id want to know how many of those under 50 have comorbities like diabetes cancer or heart issues|0 Read theory you idiot dont just echo what your thought leaders told you You fail to comprehend even the basic definition of both anarchism and communism Wikipedia is a good place to get the brainworms extractedhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAnarchocommunism|0 Sorry to burst your bubble but cardio improves your red blood cell count and you breathe much easier|1 Its become quite apparent that the official numbers in Italy of those infected was massively undercounted at the time of submission more than the authors suggest|0 Yeah even better than the lottery if you ask me Im so happy for her|1 Its almost as if the world has changed since 1918Its a bit easier to wash your hands 4 or 5 times a day than self quarantineSure loads wont do it but even less will obey a quarantine|1 In 4 weeks time theres a good chance the Uk will be quarantined like Italy is being right nowWhich again is the opposite of their target of getting herd immunity by infecting 70 of the population You would need to infect about 40M people for that to work were barely hitting 1 of that target if we take Italy which has needed a full blown lockdown|1 Two things can be true We know america is changing And we know that the amount of people infected is way more than they have announced and we know as of right now its only getting worse with no end in site America until they do something that requires people being isolated for a period of time|0 last night they were all singing out their window its great|1 This is a bad idea that could endanger dozens if not hundreds of people Animal studies are mandatory especially if you are dealing with a brandnew experimental and uncharted technology like mRNA vaccines And there is a reason for that We all appreciate the enthusiasm of these upcoming biotech companies but they are too in a rush to be the first theyre cutting too many corners What we are essentially talking about is fulllength S protein immunization just through mRNAmediated production In SARS vaccines that approach has been shown time and time again that it can lead to vaccine enhancementThe most successful SARS vaccine prototypes either used some sophisticated adjuvant to skew the immune response in a beneficial way or most frequently a subunit vaccine containing only the RBD domain of the S protein These approaches were shown to be safe and effective In fact what was probably the best candidate by Dr Peter Hotez was a subunit vaccine adjuvated by good old Alum Its a tried and true technique That is also the approach being pursued by giants like Sanofi Pasteur You can find an interview by Sanofis vaccine head and hes politely skeptical about these novel approaches being rushed through even faster than the more traditional ones being pursued by larger companies like his Like he says recombinant vaccines have been around for decades be it the HepB vaccine or the Flublok vaccine by Sanofi itself Rationally they should be the ones going a bit faster not having to validate a whole new approach Now I am not discounting that an mRNA vaccine could interact in a different way than a plain old whole virus inactivated vaccine and work fine but first you have to show it Animal testing would really take only a few weeks just the time to breed a sufficient amount of transgenic mice and challenge themThis rush can be very harmful not only to the individuals receiving a jumpinthedark vaccine in the face of a pandemic and for just 1100 to boot but to the whole vaccine creation process If people start getting horribly sick with vaccine enhancement there will be a lot more caution skepticism with future candidates from everyone the public authorities the medical community Again I really hope that this vaccine works and I suppose it might but why dont they just take the time to prove this in animals A couple months more or less isnt a big deal in every case the vaccine will be delivered long after we have managed the first wave of the pandemic through public health and hopefully also pharmacological meansI personally wouldnt volunteer for such a vaccine for all the money in the world let alone 1100 dollars And Im completely confident that a vaccine for COVID19 is in fact quite doable just they have to respect the necessary steps|1 We got a saying where Im from we call this polishing a turd Yeah its shiny now but still a turd|1 I feel the same but Im 24 on an immunosuppressant that raises my risk of respiratory infections so my risk is much higher than yours I understand your fear though Im extremely afraid and cant focus on anything else|0 Its not TSA We have CDC set up at a few key airports and passengers coming in from Europe are getting shuttled to those specific gates blocked off from anyone else including TSA then once they clear the CDC screening they go to CBP screening then they come to TSA and we screen them again CDC has basically taken over a certain section of the airports chosen and them international passengers get screened about three times Take a few hours Im working the international side of it pretty much exclusively for the past few monthsYes I do work for TSA currently so far we havent gotten hit with anything terrible Im personally aware of a few officers in LAX and San Francisco airports who were confirmed positive So far no one here at my airport in VA though its just a matter of time Management has at least been good enough to put us on administration leave if we get sick and to stay away|1 You dont come off as rude You are rude|0 Not surprising someone in my county in Florida came back from an affected area in Italy and initially landed in NYC She said she felt quite sick presenting all the ncov symptoms Nobody questioned her upon landing She called the cdc and was cleared for travel despite clearly presenting textbook symptoms She then took a connecting flight to my city Edit she later tested positive for covid19Source I apologize for the ads httpswwwnewsweekcomfloridacoronaviruspatientcdcdomesticflightflulikesymptoms1490393|0 Ive been researching this and it has not been shown to be accurate in testing But theres levels of effective The distillery is smart to go for roughly 80 Though from an esthetic standpoint it would have been better to use guar gum than xanthan gum Xanthan gum is sticky and doesnt make it any more effectiveLong versionEthanol is generally effective on enveloped viruses and many bacteria at 70 vol It does not become less effective at higher concentrations for all types of pathogens In fact it is effective even on some nonenveloped viruses only at higher concentrations than standard hand sanitizer while still being effective on bacteria About 85 will work on almost everything but polio and a couple of others Below 70 vol ethanol is less effective and it is just about useless under 50Isopropyl alcohol isnt as effective on skin as ethanol but at 70 vol it will kill enveloped viruses like SARSCoV2 91 will likely work but it will be more harsh on skin Just dont mix it with glycerin or aloe Glycerin above about 1 renders isopropyl ineffective I havent found any research that has tested using high amounts of aloe because it is an ingredient put into hand sanitizers just so that it can be put on the label Theres so little in commercial products that it doesnt matter far less than 1 It might be ok but it might not Best not to use it|1 Thank goodness I was genuinely worried I just found myself in a Mandela Effect and had to google it Youre a higher rank in sarcasm than I am Im working on leveling up|1 Yet im the one being downvoted People please try and have some personal opinions stop repeating what you hear in the media please|1 Youre not There is zero incentive for employees to stay home They need to still use personal days|1 You can look at it that way as strictly a STATE issue A state not being a person in this case A state that doesnt live or breathe or eat things Or you can see it from the honest perspective that millions of actual PEOPLE have WAY less voting power because they choose to live in one place over anotherThe election shouldnt be about states as separate entities it should be about what the fucking American people want States is an artificial limitation that is way past its prime|1 Im guessing youre a data scientist with have a major in statistics yeah|1 I can already see the image of a Florida politician with a gas mask on as the woman with no mast stands next to him being shown in documentaries magazines etc to generations of the future as this story is told As soon as I saw that photo I knew I was looking at history|0 I cancelled on a bridesmaids dress shopping date with my 5 best friends who were coming from out of town My 4 year old has a cough so im keeping him home until the foreseeable future I had plans with my mom in law for this weekend but she has multiple serious health issues like high bp diabetes among others so i dont want her to be exposed to my son We never travel and our countrys outbreak is small only 3 people in my city tested positive but im not taking any chances|1 But the world shouldnt freeze and millions shouldnt be put out of work to save your 70yearold parents If youor theydont understand that you should think more about this Dont confuse me Im not wishing ill on you or anyone But thats a piss poor selfish way of looking at thingsEdit the cross out|0 You cant just CT scan everyone The amount of resources thatll go to that alone is crazy In addition there are additional radiation risks Also Im not sure when the right time to test people is Everyone with a cough Then if youre negative and continue to have a cough when do you get tested again to see if its the same or a different pathogen|0 Drivers will be on paid leave for 10 days|0 I believe this post will be perfect in ragedlikemilk in say 3 days time |1 No In the email from Fenves he explicitly states TWO cases confirmed at UT|0 Its just the flu s|0 February here Was out sick from work for nearly 2 weeks tested negative for flu twice and still have lingering bronchitis Two of my teammates at work were out with the same thing at the same time|0 You know Ive used Hangouts so little I dont know how its different than SkypeOh great its another one of these scenarios where a nonmicrosoft company is trying to sell schools on cheaper softwareThats all good except that we basically wind up having to support a whole second IT infrastructure just because they wont increase the budgets enough to afford normal ITGoogle docs aint no Microsoft office I really dont like the level of redundancy that schools choose in their IT We dont need to teach kids to use three different platforms poorly versus using one platform well|1 Just boycott the damn thing Let them trot their floats out on empty streets hell with um|0 On that last piece isnt that more indicative of bias in the admittedly large clusters themselves If thats the case we should expect CFR to climb as it moves from clusterbased to community spread no|0 It would be more than 3 at this early point in the pandemic Average transmission rate is likely 36 maybe higher but you have to consider that those 36 people will infect 36 more each The number of cases double every other dayThe white house is predicting at least 13 of the US will be infected over the course of this thing and about 1 of them will die Over 80 of cases are mild is a number I heard thrown around a lotThe CDC says to wear a mask if you are sick at all If there wasnt a shortage of masks I think theyd suggest that the healthy to also wear a mask But to wear a mask if youre sick you have to admit youre sick If you dont youre also sick in the head and should be tried for murder How can these people sleep at night Better how will they sleep at night late next year when they finally get their head out of their ass and wake the fuck up|0 This is just a political stunt The news is lying to us Big pharma just wants to stick everyone with another evil vaccine |0 Just google a picture of Rep Matt Gaetz from today Some members of congress are still mocking this virus and our response|0 I sure hope so I know people personally that arent taking this seriously One lives in the same county as mea county of community wide outbreak The other is my mil The family had a big get together where my sil brought her two and half month old baby girl Texas to Oregon to meet the extended family this last weekend Im a mom of two I would have never have done this It seems like a great way to spread this virus Sil brought baby to meet the very old great grandparents Invited our family with my husband with chf Wtf We did not attend airports and planes seem like great way to spread this thing I felt the trip was totally unnecessary|1 kijiji started pulling down those ads today Good guy kijiji|1 I mean they have a saying exactly for that Better safe than sorry|1 This Trump has fucked us We will suffer on epic proportions now Imagine whats going on in China except with ZERO adults around You think the Chinese dictatorship is bad just watch a society collapse into anarchy during a pandemic|0 Thats because the special financing instrument initiated by the World Bank only triggers a nonpayout if there is a pandemic in the countries at risk USA isnt one of them|1 1 Brazilian senior advisor2 Trump3 Matt Gaetz4 A Florida NBA team5 A California NBA team6 Some undiagnosed Hollywood actor who loves basketball7 Tom HanksDamn The Brazilian guy infected Tom Hanks What a monster|1 Thats cool and I greatly admire what theyre doing but they shouldnt have to do itThe money should be coming from team owners almost all of whom are vastly wealthier than the players themselves Plus theyre the ones that indirectly oversee the arena workers anyways|1 How to infect friends and kill people|0 In San Francisco you cant even prosecute people if they steal 950 or less in merchandiseWho the fuck thought that law was a good idea|0 This Study has been withdrawn because misleading in its findings|0 Diagnostic machines are not equivalent in use Respirators are constantly used by one patient not shared like an xray or MRI or whatever else you can name I may be wrong but intensive care rooms are fairly standardized in what they contain|1 This is honestly a good start If people see that this works well be one step closer to broader temporary or permanent UBI measures in the near future|1 Actually I hope the government DOES eliminate that persons job and livelihood overnight It would provide them an opportunity to learn empathy I doubt she will learn it but Im all for them having opportunity after opportunity like this to learn|1 Yes but only after being the first country to let this get out of control|1 But also I may be able to see the spike not on mobile but they really actually cut their tracking season short Thats not good|0 Zero intelligence Theyre probably sitting on a mountain of toilet roll and bathing in hand sanitizer whilst they dish out this immoral advice|1 I didnt say they were special I said they can spread it way beyond just their local community|1 PPE probably works but the expected number of people who have to be treated is much higher than for Ebola given the high infectiousness So they will run outEven France has had mask stocks stolen from hospitals Imagine subsaharan Africa black market|0 It is if they want to control it completely Universal rapid home testing is the goal now until we have a widely available cure and vaccine Short of that as soon as we left up what is happening now it just comes back|1 Explain how thats a huge leap then The more left leaning higher ups in Puerto Rico spen a lot of time bitching about Trump and exagerating how little he helped and there is not much reason for them to withhold those supplies|1 Anyone who is not a full 100 American citizen So yes|1 This was lowballed But I think it was what people needed to see honestly|1 If you swing at the king best not to miss|1 I think the Chinese are handling this effectively actually its quite impressive|1 This is what the fake news looks likeWho benefits by putting out this kind of narrativeWho benefits by spreading unwarranted panic|0 Thats a terrible and misleading graphicCan an ultraviolet disinfection lamp kill the new coronavirusUV lamps should not be used to sterilize hands or other areas of skin as UV radiation can cause skin irritationThe answer doesnt answer the question at all|0 I never thought it was possible for Canadians to be so combative til that 2011 Stanley Cup riot|0 It says that businesses under 50 employees can get reimbursed from the government for the additional sick leave 2 weeks that they must provide if a public health emergency is declared and the 23 pay is paid by Social Security not the employers|0 Even if that was the case its an incredibly selfish stance to take smh|0 There is some data in regards to diabetes actually from Wuhan Diabetes is a slight risk factor for worse outcomes After adjusting for age and smoking status patients with COPD HR 2681 95CI 14245048 diabetes HR 159 95CI 103245 hypertension HR 158 95CI 107232 and malignancy HR 350 95CI 160764 were more likely to reach to the composite endpoints admission to intensive care unit ICU or invasive ventilation or death than those withouthttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022520027664v1|0 You do the same when a dem wins snowflake Or should I just go ahead and say traitor|1 Oh dont worry its already the top post over there|1 I have But definitely not enough |1 1 First to stop flights from China2 Made everyone wear masks Everyone Government hands them out weekly They also temperature check people entering shopping centres etc|0 Theyll probably turn you away unless you have severe symptoms At this point the priority is people who at higher risk so join everyone else whos just staying home|0 How is rasing the medical staffs salary deserve mocking I hate the CCP as well but if they did everything wrong China would be collapsed as this pointAlso what with that sudent personal attack Its not even an argumentThough if you are an Italian I understand why youre angry Anyway have a good day take care|0 I was at Costco yesterday before they opened get a few things Loooong line but what the hell I wanted the stuff on my list Since they had water and tp and I new my husbands sibs needed it I got some for them Plus sealed packages of ground beef eggs milk etc All the rest of the stuff we already got|0 You sound incredibly selfish What if that was your family on board Sorry America gives a fuck about its citizens and arent just going to leave them to die Get over yourselfEdit seems you arent even from America so why do you care You talk an awful amount about the USA for someone who doesnt even live here Sorry your country might leave you stranded but that is not how America operates How about ya worry about Europe Regardless I hope our friends over the pond get home safely as well No one deserves to be deserted by their country|1 Communion even Lol Body of Christ indeedWellthat REALLY changes things eh|1 Because if people dont socially isolate they can infect a ton of people The domino effect|1 It is currently much lower in western hospitals The issue is this thing is built for collapsing infrastructure So 2 is possible if it spreads beyond hospital bed count or if the staff gets infected or both|0 Wow theyre on the ball with this|1 Probably wise since they were flying the infected and Chinese flights into Honolulu and to my knowledge still no testing has been done in Hawaii|0 As a teacher Id be totally happy to go to work to look after just the children of NHS and other emergency services workersThat would be a very small fraction of the school population so it would allow for monitoring and distancing which just isnt possible at the moment In a classroom with 34 children and 1 teacher I cant monitor them all effectively for a virus and learning and behaviour and I cant distance them because there physically isnt room in the classroom Every hour those 34 leave and another 34 come in so in terms of mixing its a bad timeMeanwhile there are lots of school staff with elderly parents Hell there are lots of school staff around 60 or who have underlying health conditions Closing schools except for the children of essential service workers would allow high risk staff to go homeWe should have closed the schools and we didnt We might have no choice soon|0 Perhaps its a strain difference|0 They should be educating the massesAnd stop controlling the spread of information via censorship Stop sucking up to the pooh bear Theres a shit ton of things the WHO could be doing that dont actually need authority or permission from another country|0 as well as the vaccines lmao where are the anti vaxers thru all this|1 Because Iran is run by an oppressive regime and any sort of discontent that catches fire can bring the whole thing crashing down If the government is seen as strong then it survives if not then it will get killed|0 Drink the bar soup you bigot is a meme about how some publications vox hufpo etc tried to claim that closing travel to China was racist and how bay soup was rumored to be the source of the virus|0 They are trying to see how they can sugarcoat the whole thing More time neededAs it was only 52 new cases I presume there were holding back waiting for more positive test results to come in|1 It reminds me a lot of 911 when they had to figure out who was actually inside the buildings when they went down You are right the tabulation is tragic|0 If everyone stops eating out that would LITERALLY cause the collapse of the hospitality industry You might want to walk out because you wouldnt have a job when all is said and done|0 I doubt 3 weeks of quarantine in the hot zones will do that But lets see how it works for Italy|0 I work for Kalahari which is still family owned by the Nelsons Out Ohio location shut down yesterday at 4pm until April 2nd Todd Nelson decided to pay all the staff the average of their last 60 days Basically a 2 week paid vacation Cant complain about that one bit Takes some of the burden off of getting bills paid and keeping food in the house|0 Maybe they can just expand the existing closed beta|1 So their conclusion is get ready to put the whole world on China style lockdown or this cant be contained|1 Chinese government always errs on the side of caution when it comes to stability so they will take ample time especially now that a system of checks and controls has been established As one Western media article stated some of this may well be a permanent extension of the surveillance state Wouldnt be the first time a crisis is used in such a way even outside ChinaThe long term economic impact would be a serious increase in debt as the Chinese government must prop up the stock market businesses and pay the ongoing costs of the battle against the virus There wont be much of a war chest left after all is said and done Also more than the trade war it should convince Western companies to diversify their supply chain That does not bode well for the still exportdriven China model|0 They didnt donate supplies Its Chinese propaganda its part of an agreement launched by a large investement from an Italian bank group Intesa San Paolo|1 I feel you so much the virus just began spreading in my country My anxiety isnt helping and Im super scared for my parents and grandmother I hope this all goes well and in few months well be able to breathe deeply knowing the danger is over Im sending tight internet hugs and support know that youre not alone in this|1 So which is the one with the 7 fatality rate in the US|0 Sorry about the callousness of this reply but it only just occurred to me and its made me a little annoyedGiven that the segment of the population it will kill are largely over 60s and more likely Conservative voters the current strategy of just let it happen seems selfdefeating But given that a large proportion of the partys funds come from legacies in peoples wills maybe its just mercenary Party before countryOr is this just me being cynical|0 Awesome I was worried about what I will do with my time when I cant refresh this subreddit anymore|1 Heres my question do people seriously think this is getting better in two weeks I just had my dentist rebook me in two weeks because they think it will be better by then Are they aware they are lying or are they just naive Or am I wrong and in two weeks will we be business as usual|0 TLDR Am I the only one who thinks the system is broke For dealing with Covid 19 For spreading awareness about it Its a literal clusterfuck of problems Poor leadership poor healthcare system poor news network poor communication Ive been fallowing this subreddit since I first heard of the coronavirus I live in the USA And its a sad state of affairs here I feel like fallowing the spread and news of this virus has opened my eyes to how broken this country is Theres no head to the government anymore Trump should be leading the country but instead he just has a nonchalant attitude and just doesnt want to be involved Its sad that its up to the local government of the state or county to issue warnings or declare a state of emergency and start warning the general public about this outbreak The healthcare system is broke Enough said there At this point making Coronavirus testing fmandatory or a health benefit is just a political stunt But what for the people who have no insurance Its still not free Seems most people cant be bothered to go to the doctors bc of the cost weather they have insurance or not or am I just ignorantHas anyone gone a questioned anyone recently I spoke to a co worker who thought you could only get the coronavirus from eating bats Another co worker thought it couldnt hurt her because she was young and it only affects the elderly I spoke to my aunt who thought coronavirus was still only in China I even have a co worker who thinks its all made up fabricated Another person i know said if he gets sick hell just drink a whole lot of liquor Another who thinks its a bio weapon created by the Chinese my point is people outside this subreddit and who dont stay up to date on current events are being mislead by false news articles Click bait Ads Companies are trying to profit off of peoples hysterical grasp for information Everyone seems to have a different opinion or idea of what this even is I was dumbfounded At this point Im not scared of the coronavirus Im scared of my government How it doesnt seem to care Im scared of the person next to me who seems to lack proper common sense Im just so confused by how all this can happen so fast and for people to react just too late Sorry for the long rant but Does any of this make sense to anyone else|0 Wow Thanks for the effort you put into this post This discourse is so refreshing compared with the sensationalist conspiracy theorists over at rCoronavirus|1 Singapore and SKorea have the same amount of testing errors as anywhere else in the world but dont count on people giving them shit about it It doesnt matter how much you test if your testing is wrong You can shit on the US all you want but these other countries have incorrect results all the same|0 or fighting through airports|0 Im so sorry for laughing|1 Singaporean here too Honestly we wont mind if were banned from entering other countries or if flights are cancelled we understand Although probably airdrop us some food we cant produce enough for ourselves|0 Everyone should be required to take a basic economics lesson in school to see why this doesnt work Price controls just lead to shortages because no one will be incentived to make more masks if theres no money to be made If masks get crazy expensive factories will change up their production lines to start making masks which will lead to a surge in supply|0 Its kept low by the fact that they are quite easy to replace|1 Theres also culture vs raceGeert Hofestead explains this well in the book Cultures and DimensionsSomeone can be say ethnically Vietnamese but grew up in an Australian culture and they are culturally as Australian any 3rd or 4th generation AustraliaPart of the challenge with China is a lot of the things deemed hard to comprehend by others pushing to the front in queues eating exotic species are cultural they have nothing to do with race and tend to be more prevalent in so called Mainland ChineseSo when people say things like Rude Chinese its an often on average accurate cultural observation that sounds racist The person making that statement doesnt necessarily think it applies to say Singaporean HK Chinese ABC or others so its not the race thats at the heart of itRacism against things like skin color is abhorrent and inexcusableA valid Dislike of certain cultural behavior is unavoidable and we all do it|0 In the same boat friend These companies with no regard for the safety of others is very disheartening Stay safe out there|1 This video shows and explains it pretty well httpswwwvoxcomvideos20203621168006coronaviruscovid19chinapandemichttpswwwvoxcomvideos20203621168006coronaviruscovid19chinapandemic|1 Oh look doomers right again Coronavirus Chinese health experts warn patients can get reinfected|0 Yes Youre right And also especially in China many have died at home and were never reported either So both numbers would throw it off As time goes by we should have better numbers especially as testing becomes more widely available Japan has a machine which can give results in 15 min And Britain is doing a large randomized study to see just how many ppl have it I think they were going to test 1000 Now Ive got to go find it and read again I agree that the numbers will be off maybe by a lot but they could also be off in the other direction especially since China lied Sonot to panic but not to dismiss this Take it seriously till we know for certain its ok to relax Japan just closed all its schools National borders are closed The death rate in Iran where they dont want ppl to wear masks is like 20 These countries Im assuming have top notch scientists advising how to handle the situation and these are their measuresso we should all be extra cautious and see where we are in a month or so Its developing fast|0 I think the point is that saying its just like the flu is downplaying how serious it can get because the flu kills people as well|0 America also hasnt been flooded with weaponry like Afghanistan was I mean a bunch if americans with their semiautomatics isnt going to be a walk in the park but the average american doesnt have access to antiaircraft weapons or other heavy weaponry|0 Here you go a helpful pro reward for spreading the news|1 Nice|1 Weve created a coronavirus tracker that monitors the news and pulls the most credible article per hour If youre looking to stay alert as the situation progresses or see how our response has changed over time check it out here httpswwwthefactualcomnewsscoronavirushttpswwwthefactualcomnewsscoronavirus|1 Even if youre in good health and youre likely to be in the 80 of people with mild symptoms THIS is what you should be worried about disrupted emergency and medical services Also disrupted production and shipping|0 Thanks Please share where you think is appropriate It will help us out alot|1 Every country try has their protocols to follow China disagree with the basic human rights of ridiculous health care cost of USA They dont care though why Its none of their business|1 Cant fake numbers without testing at all|1 This data seems to be more recent with only 10 showing symptoms at all based on repeated testinghttpstwittercomandreamatrangastatus1239774862572277760This might include presymptomatic cases though so 50 very mild seems plausible The good news might be that we might be overestimating the CFR and severe cases somewhat Still it evidently overwhelms the system as nobody is immune to it yet More good news is though that herd immunity is easier to reach with as many asymptomatic cases|1 look at me as crazy when I speak about coronavirusTake that as a hint You came to a subreddit created as a safe space for all the crazy people banned from rcoronavirus because you know if you asked your question anywhere else you would be told yes you are overreactingBe scared of the common flu It kills around 640000 people worldwide every year and you dont see people freaking about it here because 1 its not covered much by the mainstream media and 2 its not originating from China there is a racist vibe among some people here including one moderator who isnt shy about using racial slursWash your hands Keep your fingers out of your eyes and mouth Take routine cleanliness precautions that any child is taught and youll go a long way toward avoiding a whole bunch of viral infections|0 Exactly Youre going to see under 40s on ventilators Youre going to see under 40s with Stage 4 Prostate cancer too What we DO know is that the numbers skew HEAVILY towards the elderly when it comes to dying from this and when it comes to needing serious hospital care But the number of factors are absolutely insane right now and scientistsdoctors worldwide are working at trying to make sense of all of it Theyre figuring this out relatively shortly before were being told about those findings New things are being discovered daily and were being updated shortly afterAre a LOT more people infected than we realize and only the worstoftheworst seeing actual testing skewing the ICUVentilatorDeath rates sky high when they shouldnt be Maybe Were just finding out this thing has probably been spreading for the better part of 2 months in the US and not the 23 weeks we initially thought|0 See this kind of thinking is the problem Its exactly why grocery stores are packed and the shelves empty Boo hiss you dont get to cookeat Michelin star 5 course meals when under fucking quarantineIf you have a refrigerator theres no reason you dont have enough edible food to last you 23 weeks|0 Yes Im curious to see what type of civil unrest this will lead to if any|1 Well this is what healthlink has said when I called for myself and when my sister called regarding her son that they are currently not doing testing in this area Were they told to just stay home or were they formally tested|1 but an order from the mayor seems to be nothing more than a recommendation in most placesthe mayor of my town just made an announcement to close places like gyms but the gyms arent closing it said to limit gatherings to no more than 10 people but thats not happening people are allowed to just choose if they want to adhere to such orders is this the same in other places or are the cops going around and enforcing such things|1 You know what Youre right I was gonna type out a life story type thing and then say and now on to the recipe as a joke but instead just imagine I did and laugh|1 Yea Im happy to be in a state that is taking this seriously even if the fed government isnt Plus the right of assembly means the federal government actually cant do much to stop the spread in public States however have no limitations on their powers Pressure your state governments to follow the example of New York and Washington|0 Agree|1 Wow|1 If the bird flu breaks out in the Philippines and China currently they are trying to contain it then were definitely screwed|0 Imagine they closed and this was a nothing burger Yeah that would be a stupid move Downvote me though|0 thank you Ill post if I have any update on St Davids|0 Italian doctors are SCREAMING at the world right now to warn them and advise how to not make the mistakes italy did and the whole world is like Me Surely he doesnt mean me Im special|1 Im a special education teacher and my husband is an anesthesiologist so I would WELCOME any necessary quarantine I honestly dont see how the two of us arent going to catch this thing|1 its pretty much universally accepted that it isIts definitely not universally accepted it is still disputed whether it is or not From their press conference on this new case they said it appears supposedly asymptomatic transmissions were actually just in the early stages of showing symptoms Apparently they reinterviewed those involved in those supposed incidents and it appears they were showing mild symptoms at the timeEdit Also they totally can have an idea how likely she was to pass it wearing a mask and being asymptomatic which while it may be contagious at this point it will be much less so than with symptoms and selfisolating when she got back despite having no symptoms That is basically the perfect scenario to prevent spread so saying she is unlikely to pass it on is totally accurate|1 Make an exception for AOC Maybe add an addendum that anyone over 18 but under 35 has to pass a test I dont know I just really want president AOC|1 All actual boomers in my life have this attitude Im starting to think this disease was designed to kill boomers like toxoplasmosis makes mice attracted cats lol|1 I dont get it A marathon is outside you dont have to touch other marathon runners and a marathon isnt exactly something one would do if they had a cough and fever which would automatically rule out anyone with active symptoms Surely its not as bad as an event held inside with people just sitting there very close to each other|1 That poster has said Canada so depending on where in I could see it Just hopefully either government isnt dumb enough to try and stop materials that can help from coming in|1 Thats what Im saying Everyone looks at me like oh shes crazy No Im realistic Wtf|0 I want that but I think I will abstain for a couple more months and work through the food I have I dont want to keep having people risk their health for me|0 They wont offer her a leave of absence Thats terrible She should threaten to call a news station see what happens then|0 My bad I probably should have specified state as its not necessarily the same in all Or even within the same state some may not have gotten the memo yet Either way expect it to change very soon and obviously s will go way up Seems to be the case from the John Hopkins map seeing increases every hour httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|0 Do you really save pictures of vile things like that and post it to random people|1 And thats the problem with society nowadays we just keep hoping things wont get worse|1 It doesnt seem like its very high to be honest If the Chinese numbers are unreliable we can look at the cases outside of China No one has died outside of China yet and there is close to 50 reported casesEdit now 65 cases outside of China Still no deaths Not saying this is not a serious disease but the mortality rate doesnt seem exceedingly high Still could kill millions tho Say two billion people were to be infected worldwide and the mortality rate is 1 its still 20 million deaths|0 A crash all but guarantees Trump losing reelection Its no surprise hes more concerned about the himself than the American people Even the diehard bootlickers might turn if the economy takes a dump|0 Good for Israel They are doing right |1 The solution is to manufacture a shit ton of masks UsA had plenty of warningLying to the public is a bad move in long term|0 lmfao apocalypse now|1 Good thing King County and Snohomish County are shutting down public transportation and restricting intercity travelOh they arentCool Cool cool cool cool cool Its cool Its fine|1 I am stunned that even they tested the 3 I am even more stunned that there are actual tests being conducted I am not stunned however to read no need to wear masks they probably dont have many or anyI wish more discussion was being had about the shortages of medical supplies and I fear medications maybe it would push for someone to step up to the plate and make some domestically Instead we will wait for China to get everyone back to work cough and ship us some|0 229 for a state of almost 30 million Great job Abbott s|1 In my area schools were the last to close It was insaneNow my governor has closed all schools just yesterday and is even telling parents not to have their kids friends over Stay at homeWell see if it makes a difference They said theyre only going to close for 3 weeks The president said this can go to August Test the kids|1 short hope|1 Which means it should have 7003600 dead people unaccounted for|0 in MI we got the 50 capacity spiel a couple days ago today 316 we woke up to everything shutting down with the exception of carryout orders places that operate as mainly dinein have closed entirely bc the demand just wont be there this is a highly dynamic situation and changing rapidly our Gov addressed the state just last night and we were still open this morning were not I think were just slightly ahead of the curve on what will soon be a nationwide mandate|1 absolutely so what I do now is compiling literally EVERYTHING into a pile of information pools I dont have one prefferred channel instead am following multiple channels at the same timeSo what do we got Chinas report httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf WHO httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019 CDC httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml rCoronavirus rCOVID19support this blogpost from an ER doc httpsblogsprucehealthcomcoronaviruswhosgoingtodie UK report httpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublic I also follow german news on the topic since I lived there and speak the language fluently will update this reddit if anything of significance appears on those channels only I prefer to follow german news on this because I lived there for many years and meticulousness and precision are baked into their mentality of doing literally every action and thought|1 I agree The decision isnt an easy one For many children school is a safe place And those children dont have a huge support network of parents and grandparents to even worry about sadly|0 Doctor who warns about Corona Virus gets infected CNNhttpswwwgooglecomampsampcnncomcnn20200203asiacoronavirusdoctorwhistleblowerintlhnkindexhtmlCorona Virus Kills Chinese Whistleblower Doctor Li Wenliang BBChttpswwwgooglecomampswwwbbccomnewsampworldasiachina51403795|0 How do you feel Whats it like I know it sounds dumb but Im honestly curious Is it bad|1 Well its not quite that bad 12 bad but only a few hundred thousand dying in a year or two Worse in 3rd world countries but still not much worse then current bugs Now if this virus suddenly mutates and starts killing 35 of people infected now were talking mass panic riots and serious death toll Thats authoritarian world with heavy government control lots of crazy not world ending but economy destroying decades to recover bad think great depression and spanish flu at the same time59 Serious stuff end of public gatherings for years no air travel frozen economy open warfare possible lack of resources could spawn mass riots that will destroy whole cities and long term damage to even 1st world countries1040 Now were talking apocalyptic open warfare food riots mass blackouts and panics lawlessness everywhere real end of days stuff for many years Hundreds of millions or a billion dead very bad But still survivable 50Thats ballgame There would likely be very few humans left in a few decades Between war and starvation isolation and xenophobia wed be lucky to survive as a species So cheer up chum right now were mostly going to be fine hopefully|0 One of my best friends here she is older in her late 60s recovering from cancer surgery She got word that they were Drive up testing in our town central Florida so she went and got tested She passed the criteria to get the test She then added it to our County Facebook page so if anyone needed to have a test All hell broke lose Almost everyone was calling her hateful names telling her that she was creating a mass panic she should not have been tested because she is just a crazy old lady It was literally insane|0 Now this is a Reddit 100 moment very cool |1 How do you make food in a factory lmao|1 Even if the CFR is much lower and I totally concur with your conclusion there net fatality numbers might be still much much higher since R0 is higher for the new virusIn Italy they are triaging ICUs It is not reasonable to think of this as a hypebubble anymoreThe leading virologist of Charite in Germany said the situation is serious now and he was a very moderate and optimistic voice so farOverall the best thing everyone can do right now is to stop their egoistic panic identify the at high risk people around them and build solidary connections in their communities to help those at risk with isolation and care|0 Yeah the one from the 50s is why i said 50100 years vs 100 years Not to discount SARS MERS and ebola but they were too deadly and not infective enough on the deadlyinfective scale to end up as widespread as covid|1 What the fuck Id honestly dump his ass Clearly you two have different priorities in lifewhatever life you have left that is|0 Wuhan health authorities reacted way too late the virus probably had 12 months to spread freely without serious containment measures Hospitals in Hubei province were flooded with only the most serious cases as any sensible person would want to avoid a crowded hospital unless its absolutely necessary to get treated The overwhelming majority of mild cases probably selfquarantined at homeSo what youre saying is that in terms of official figures yes but there where a lot of people infected in Wuhan that were unrecorded as the reaction was too little too lateThat doesnt jive with this So yes the 1020 hospitalization figures were and are mostly real I believe but lacked important context|1 Im Canadian This is the Wayne Gretzky of viruses people didnt think it was big enough or fast enough to have the impact it does I love it|1 Thanks Keep safe Elbow bumpsYou too|1 Apple could win me backCompanies should step up and give back for the MASSIVE tax breaks they have enjoyed by taking care of their employees and we should reward those that do|1 There are two branches of the immune system TH1 for intra cellular parisites and TH2 for extra cellular You need TH1 to combat viruses but it tends to decline with age people instead respond with TH2 which causes neutrophil infiltration leading to ARDScytokine storm Vit D and Zinc are common deficiencies paticularly in the elderly they weaken TH1 response The clincal findings support this High neutrophil to leukocyte count and TH2 cytokines are associated with poor outcomes So supressing TH2 response is one line of treatment|0 dont touch that ugly face of yoursIm beautiful ty|1 Look up the procedures a new vaccine has go to through to be legally allowed for distribution 12 months is the ideal scenario assuming it started from the day the virus got sequenced|1 my exact thought when they shut down a local school over here as well as a skyscraper downtown for deep cleaning for one day What a stupid show of see were doing something something that means absolutely nothing the second people get back into the building|0 Omg I literally have spoken to a few of my contacts in China and they all said things super similar to this When I mentioned quarantine they totally avoided it|1 Dont you guys know that the govt has the right to lie to us about anything for any reason it sees fit report only 1 of the cases so people dont panic and stop going to work Yes thats exactly what they will do Even if millions in America get sick they will tell everyone to keep going to work Capitalism will be the death of us all|1 Hes going to be in the hallway passed out damn Some med student will be desperately bagging him and 10 others|0 Just an FYI on disinfectant wipes I tested last night at work The surface has to stay wet for four minutes and it doesnt even come close Wipes are basically useless afaict I bought some Clorox spray on amazon that only needs 30 seconds|1 Its all good Bojo told us to wash our hands and sing happy birthday to him|1 This fundamentally not how the Corona virus works with our immune system This is anti vaxer level bullshit made to spread fear and get clicks|0 What you are seeing is a combination of things a lot of people who really dont keep up with the news People who take NOTHING seriously because YOLO Mom groups who think they are immune because they are moms Me and my kids have been sick 10 times in the last 6 months a little cough isnt going to hurt me And people in absolute denial this is the US of A that cant happen here in modern civilized society x200BI had a coworker who is capable of working from home show up sick as a dog coughing and hacking all over the place|0 Im from Austria The high infection zones are in our capital Vienna and Tyrol small villages crowded at this time of the year with 100s of tourists Most of us are very glad about what the government is doing because we dont want to become the next Italy|1 I am so pissed off that all the people whining and complaining about the Federal Government doing little to help are seemingly all the same people whose Insta stories reveal no changes to partying and socializing behavior|0 But is the spreading perfect|1 over 2000 dead and 30000 total infectedeh when they put 60 million in quarantine it was still less than 4 or 5000 confirmeddid they quarantine 500m now Havent followed|0 Honestly we have no idea what things cost We get 3 colors for meds and tests Green Cheapest yellow not cheapest red Not covered by insurance Thats it|1 I guess the govt is to be blamed Should they not report the facts as it was and react as quick as the could the people were not to suffer|0 A bad time for my IPO for my kissinggram business DingDong Heres a kiss by a total stranger Love Mom|1 Yeah its too bad the people with lots of money wouldnt donate some of their abundance to help That would really make a difference They could buy one less private jet or vacation home and help people not get evicted or go hungry But darn it they deserve that 50000 necklace|1 Forgive me if this is a dumb question but is it possible that the mysterious lung illness that was being linked to vaping several months ago was actually early cases of Covid19 Vapingsmoking increases chances of damage from the virus and the symptoms seem very similar I obviously dont have any medicalscience background but am curious about this possibility since the actual causes of the lung illness were so hard to pinpoint|0 Most of the clamor to shut them down is actually COMING from parents Conversely a lot of those parents whom are working with kids are trying to get themselves home to look after themIm in an odd pool Where I live in Aus work is not plentiful so Ive been working 2 casual positions at bars to make up the time of a part time job but with no benefits As such Id rather not my kids go to school as the virus gets closer and by the same effect me too since I work in an environment that sees many faces daily Problem with that is I have no sick or holiday leave benefits meaning Im effectively out of a job until we are cleared Despite that I do not want my kids contracting this virus The chances of them having serious issues with this virus are incredibly slim but we have poor healthcare around here I dont want to take that risk Weve seen how our town reacts to toilet paper despite living close to a factory that actually produces the stuff Hospitals will be flooded and Im afraid my kids and by another affect my grandmother who has stage 4 COPD will not get the care that they needIll take the hit if I have to this virus needs to stop now If the government wont support us I will just have to take my own measures and pray I can shoulder any debt I may accrue during isolation period|0 Note that that study has been retracted per the text of your SCMP link Not sure if that specific conclusion is affected|0 You should read the definitions of those things Here is involuntary manslaughterInvoluntary manslaughteris defined as an unintentional killing that results either from criminal negligence or the commission of a lowlevel criminal act such as a misdemeanorWhat part of acting fully only on evidence falls under criminal activity negligence or low level criminal act|0 You might qualify for the paid family leave you might want to save it for when your baby is born but you might be able to get the paid 4 weeks for medical leave|1 You claim the first confrimed case in the USA was March 5th Thats the date of the article you just linked The article you just linked says its January emphasis mineAs of January 30 2020 a total of 9976 cases had been reported in at least 21 countries including the first confirmed case of 2019nCoV infection in the United States reported on January 20 2020|1 Yes as of Jan 27 the association with the disease remained unconfirmed Although the direct association with the disease is yet to be confirmed with more experimental data our results provide several lines of evidence that the virus is most likely associated with this disease httpswwwtandfonlinecomdoifull1010802222175120201725399|1 Good write up although I think you blow some things out of proportion Im in the city too and all my packages more than 20 from various parts of China have been delivered as of this week Granted some were slow especially one that I ordered on February 3 finally arrived on Sunday|1 I dont wish death upon anyone but a drop in housing prices would benefit everyone looking to buy or upgrade right now I already own a home but am looking to upgrade within the next couple years With lower housing prices I could purchase a bigger home in a neighborhood I want to live in while renting out my old house Then when prices recover I can sell the old house|1 You made the claim the burden of proof is on you You claimed that we werent though so the burden is on you if you want to make that claim Weve had interventionism for the last 100ish years and now we have a monstrosity of a systemYou mean that businesses have been trying to stay unregulated so that they can screw consumers for the past 100ish years and the people havent fought back hard enough rightI mean I guess we could just go back to buying snake oil and cocaine to treat everything if you think that regulations are stupid You think the solution is a government takeover Thats a simpleton answerCalling something a simpleton answer is just shittalking though I think its vile to defend industries that prey on the sick but I didnt lead with that out of the gate because shit talking is how you stop a productive conversation P Drug price issue Go learn about pharmaceutical patentsI know all about them Pharmaceutical companies need those in order to recover RD costs I get itBut since were being honest you should also admit that there is zero profit it producing the cure to something The real profit is making tiny incremental changes and then charging a fortune for as long as you canThere should definitely be some healthy regulations on this industry Insurance company premium problems Go learn about the mandates and how it is only insurance in the loosest of sensesThe problem is that you need insurance to get goodsservices at a normal rate due to the haggling that has happened between insurance companies and providers Aspirin that costs 50 if you have dont have insurance or 5 with insurance or 005 dollars off the shelf that sort of thingThe freemarket insurance companies are simply middlemen that consume billions of dollars from sick patients every year without actually providing any treatment themselves Weve got 100 healthcare problems and potential nationalization is oneNot even remotelyThe US spends more percapita than any other nation on healthcare and yet were one of the lowest in terms of resultsNationalization should be done and done right|0 Sixtyone percent of Americans are very or somewhat confident in the US governments ability to respondWe are doomed guys|1 This title is wrong they just reduced the traffic inbound there is still planes and tour bus coming from the mainland and several borders areas open This is a half a measure and in this conditions its ridiculous|0 I mean to me its very understandable We have a government that ran on the platform of were going to blow up government and cut every possible service outside of military while cutting taxes for the rich Crisis after crisis has happened with no analysis or thought being put into it and anybody who does know anything being terminatedSo when this hit I knew we would be unprepared and botch the response And we have They did exactly what I expected |0 I told my brother that we should consider having our mom school worker in her 50s to not go into work soon He told me to stop panicking lol|0 It wont be just testsTrump next week We have all the beds and ventillators we need Millions Beautiful beds Best in the worldCDC next week Our hospitals are ummfull|1 HA clevercues woof woof woof woof|1 I wasnt trying to argue that although the WHO is comprised up of people and funding from the major countries you dont think its possible politics will be involved andor motivated by money I find that unlikely|1 Its a very frightening situation This past weekend a co worker went to Vegas from Los Angeles and then came to work Monday obviously sick I mean I understand he needs to pay rent and we have limited paid time off but i just wish people wouldnt go on unnecessary trips outside of the house when theres obviously a very serious disease floating around The scariest part to me is how some people can be carriers but show no symptoms my coworker 2 feet away who seems fine could be spreading it and we would have no clue until someone else gets sick|0 At the loss of airlines thus airlines are going bancrupt thus airline industry crashes the thing you fear the most|0 Bleach isnt actually all that bad Better than salting frozen roadsEdit this commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfex8radisinfectionofthestreetsinchinafjvztmg is much better than mine|1 Yay for federally guaranteed jobs|1 good god|1 Your other post was more helpful I think it was from you the one direct from via This means travel between Toronto and Vancouver is now limited to air or car Theres the bus I believe around 11k and many hours so not too many customers I dont thinkAnyone thinking of travelling between these two cities is risking getting stuck if they decide to ban air as well and although not as likely the notice is bound to be shorthttpswwwviarailcaentraveladvisoryinformationhttpswwwviarailcaentraveladvisoryinformation|0 I cant deny that an armed population is more dangerous I dont personally think that things will get bad enough totriggerthat kind of need for gun violence but I definitely cant discount it either Ill add it the list of special considerations to think about for corona in America|0 Two weeks from now with the same measures Italy had or worse we will have a similar number of deaths as they do today Technically its more like 34 week until we have a similar per capita infectiondeath rate assuming confirmed US deaths are not underestimated|1 I feel like I am the only one with sympathy for those folk lol Quitting smoking is hard on the psyche most of those Asians smoke relentlessly Its like locking down Vegas with no last call on drinks|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 In Korea all the cases are still active for the most part I think they are quarantining them as have been exposed in the last 2 weeks|1 doctors and nurses were literally murdered in China by angry patients and it wasnt a per say super rare occurrenceThe few cases that happened are not sufficient to make such a blanket statement School shootings happen in the US but we dont go around saying teachers in America are literally murdered by angry students do we|0 maybe but if you are following flu prevention guidlines you are following covid19 prevention guidlines too so|0 and those are mentally ill|0 They should test regardless Wtf thats insane My thoughts are with your son and family |0 Thats called the sunk cost fallacy I suspect a lot of people are struggling with it right now|0 If what youre saying is true then that makes all of this WHO pandemic denial the result of a bunch of miscommunication and outrage by the readers Correct|0 Q5 What is our testing capacity now What is being done to increase our testing capacity Q6 If 811 telehealth calls are supposed to be reserved for probable 3symptom Covid cases who do we call for other possible emergencies eg possible heart attacks strokes etc|0 Why does every braindead conspiracy theorist use this dumbshit emoji|0 Public health and governments have been acting like its a low level problem Theyre saving up diplomatic political and medical capital for a REAL THREAT But their myopia has blinded them to the fact that THIS IS THE REAL THREAT Theres always some dodgy threat from China and you can easily get spooked China doesnt lock itself down everyday There are better containment practices and biosafety procedures in agriculture exports than there are for people Probably because theres a constant threat of apocalyptic ag disease from China while epidemiologists havent had to do much of anything in the west for 50 years|0 Do you work with me LolHe left years ago for good reason|1 The real issue isnt even whether people have insurance or not Most people wont go because theyll likely lose their job if they have to stay at homeat a hospital Losing job means no medical coverage for most people since medical is usually tied to your workplace|0 Okay so 20 of the population dies then what big brain Theres still 265 million people alive and well in the US Anyone and any job can be replaced eventually so all things will slowly become normal again There will be no crash or meltdown or fall of society from this Just some temporary delays from lack of workers and things will swiftly return to normal|1 What other the counter medicine do you recommend we take to prevent or control the infection|1 anyone thats religious pray for the rest of us that theyre all negative|0 Well youre not accounting for all the negative tests That probably eats a big chunk of the kits up|0 Im saying those numbers are not mature yet and derived from CCP Scoff all you want I also have concernsuspicion of the 0 mortality under 10 stat in those data sets Google for video of three children in one body bag from China or lookup the Iranian video that shows a child collapsing Warning the content is NSFWSeems incredibly convenient to hear that our working class and their children are immune Get back to work plebes nothing to see here Its just the flu for you Rich old white guys should shelter and self isolate though cause mortality table|0 Please dont spread ignorant opinions like this The World Health Organization investigated the DPRK and described their healthcare system as the envy of the developing world The have very good healthcare for a country that is under constant threat and economic attack from USA|1 At least the samples at Costco are doled out in tiny separate portions in disposable cups Having a common sample bowl that everybody can reach into is a very bad idea even when there is no disease outbreak Even when a spoon is provided there are always going to be people who reach into it with their bare hands and those hands are unlikely to be clean As for Costco I just shook my head at everybody crowding together into one place in order to buy supplies for a disease outbreakthey were engaged in exactly the kind of behavior that helps it spread I think they honestly believe the coronavirus isnt here yet and thus they couldnt possibly get infected yet But I live in Seattle where weve had a bunch of known cases emerge in the past 48 hours and those didnt just come out of nowhere Its here|1 Everyone minimize their own vapor and preventing droplets is better than nothing Unfortunately people are shamed not to|1 There is a change in Australia Last week youd be laughed at for being concerned this week people are sort of nervously grimacingBest to plan for worst hope for best There is nothing positive that this is going away at the moment|1 80 will not be fine80 will experience anything between no symptoms and the worst flu of their lives including pneumonia What China defined as mild symptoms is anything that doesnt require hospital care The categories China used were mild severe and critical|0 This was a very smart move Even if it doesnt completely eliminate the possibility of cases ending up in Austin it will undoubtedly slow down any potential spread Slowing down the spread is as important as preventing it altogether It buys time and reduces the strain on the health care system Mayor of Austin made a smart move Chose short and longterm public health over immediate economic gain|1 You saw when Wuhan was being closed basically all international teams left so what ever was happening you learned through other meansThis is a Royal fuck up|0 It does rather look like that Today is encouraging I guess but it could easily be like France where we ramp up again immediately afterItaly seems to be very localised in the quarantined regions Not so sure about the UK London is perhaps becoming a cluster but it seems evenly spread otherwise|1 Form my very brief experience I would agree with you|1 Scientists at Fred Hutch think the strain of COVID virus from Kirkland is a descendant of the virus from the patient in Everett from 6 weeks ago Would mean its been spreading since then They estimate in the 100s of infected people|0 Seattle is basically locked down Its a ghost town|0 This is really beautiful Ive been watching the videos of people singing Its a wonderful attitude to have and a great example I really hope the rest of the world takes notice|1 I think 15 days is enough where people say okay I can do a couple of weeks to get them prepared on the 15th day to hear from the government okay we need another 15 days of you staying home so they repeat the cycle until they announce another 15 days for a third time|1 Texas save me plz|1 i wonder how many of those are recovered and not cured lol|0 That is surreal but good to see people being patient and giving each other space Stay safe|1 thank you ive found the numbers i was looking for already|1 Just try not to get sick dont go out just go to work and then straight home avoid all people as much as possible wash your hands constantly wipe down everything with Lysol wipes its a virus theyll have it figured out soon and as for work Im sure your employer will help you out i just wouldnt stress out too much unless youre actually have to be around the general public all the time|1 Same gossip I mean never had been public reported but doctors discussed privately smokers seems to be much more less infected by SARS and nCOV|0 I believe it was scan other symptoms and perhaps negative flu test|0 When china started quarantining stuff a friend told me about it in his usual way of posting shitty memes from 4chan But i figured ill find out of they are actually quarantining cities because who the fuck knows with china So i ended up finding a collapse thread discussing it and it linked to this sub and been a member since|0 There are other people than Americans dying Are you saying American lives are more valuable than others News from other countries is being buried because yanks are hopping to yet another excuse to circlejerk about Trump as if they havent been for the past 4 yearsThis is a worldwide issue worldwide posts are being supressed in favour of America|1 So youre typing this from your end of the world bunkerOh youre proceeding with your everyday life without any changeSeems like youre one of those people|0 Yeah sometimes life kills you about 150000 people die a day on average Thats life|0 Hes only 75 years old and overweightno risk at all|0 This is how you lose in plague inc thank God for so Salvador|1 The highest possibility is that most were infected way before the quarantine started People are just leaving the incubation period|0 I dont work but having almost no immune system has prompted me to start self isolation as of today beyond my two adult family members who work outside of the home They cant just quit unfortunately and one of them works a job where Im almost positive they will not be told to stay home I guess its possible but highly unlikely Many years ago there was the fear of Sars I think it was and I did a routine then even though it wasnt this seriousI just use rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle to spray down husbands work gear hands knobs etc and avoid kissing on the mouth for a while I think Im going to start a strip at the back door and change clothes routine again tonight though Hopefully they arent to put out but Im just trying to stay alive|1 Flu fatality rate 01COVID19 34Those people need to cease and desist|0 Many plant ingredients have been stated as effective by science by science You are just showing off your ignorance There is no way that no plant ingredients can have a beneficial impact on the body Those ingredients can be the same ingredients in medicine Argue against fake cures and remedies But you are wrong in saying plant ingredients cannot help symptoms of illness The food we eat including plant extracts can affect our body in beneficial ways Modern medicine that we buy and take exists because of this fact|0 FUCK my mask doesnt come in till next week SSHIT I NEED MORE TIME|0 The letter made it sound like the people were coming straight from the Marriott but that doesnt appear to be accurate The people referenced are the people who attended last weeks Biogen conference and are being encouraged to go to Brigham to be tested I believe most people departed the conference and went home only to find that some folks who attended last week have tested positive for the virus in the last 23 days A lot of local Boston Biogen employees were in attendance last week|1 Wtf is wrong with you|0 Are you covering your eyes as well|1 Please do not postcomment links to pages containing deliberate misinformation rCOVID19 has scientifically accurate informationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19support if you have any questions or concerns|1 And many more will out of that NH I worked in them They get any illness at all and it spreads to almost all the patients Flu does even though everyone is vaccinated This wont be pretty|0 What Unemployment is typically 80 of your paycheck|0 This makes a lab release even less likely Why are people taking this article out of context It further supports zoonosis as it was probably brought into the market by some moron that got bit by a bat or similar animal when they were capturing themIts like people want it to come from a lab and are willing to twist the data to support only their theory however unlikely it may be What happens when further genomes get sequenced and trace the initial strains away from Wuhan Will there be a super secret lab theory then This is already bad enough And its terrifying nature created this A lab bite would be a relief in a way|1 I teach Chinese kids online A lot of them are cooped up inside bored as hell watching movies or playing board games I havent really talked to them about it because I dont want to add more stress but theyre pretty anxious scared and bored I often have sick kids but its never really scared me before when they were coughing|0 Has the Belgium government always been dumb IDont worry I believe Belgium has no government for like 1 year But some journalist speculate that the COVID19 epidemic will force parties to agree to work together and create a government|1 So when is the good time exactly to go to jail I cant remember|1 Denial They want to feel safe and not worryBut also failure to understand exponential growth|1 Reluctant to call It that in case countries take their foot of the gas with containment|0 Oh I dont give a fuck Im just shorting the market A billion dead a billion alive it only matters to me when there is money involved I want this clusterfuck of a situation to continue as long as possible|1 True And Juventus is from northern Italy specifically|1 Just to be clear 34 is the fatality rate out of reported cases Since many many cases are being unreported the actually mortality rate is almost certainly significantly lower This has been noted by the WHO and other organizations|0 This is when you need real leadership This is when it matters who we elect as President Almost all politicians are full of shit But most of them realize when we hit a real crisis its time to cut the bullshit Trump cant do it Hes a psychopath that will gladly have an extra 100000 Americans die so long as he is not personally blamed Its only when it impacts him that he cares So his response will always be to minimize impact on him Hence our lack of testing No testing no problem People are just dying It happens He will just pretend there is no problem and assume it will eventually go away Its how hes skated through problems his entire life bullshit blame others move on let his lawyers pick up the piecesAnd now you will see the impact of electing a fucking psychopath President Now it really matters and you see what is happening|0 So now they will be infected and on the run most likely homeless and on the streetsNot saying I wouldnt escape if I was there too but if they are out running around they will get sick anyway|0 The terrifying thing is that the death rate lags behind the infected cases so you have to compare that death rate to the infected numbers from 3 weeks ago as the diseases takes 3 weeks to kill most|0 Maybe Im wired wrong Ive canceled my trip to Disney But Im also responsible for someone who has preexisting conditions that put them in the high risk category if they get sick|0 Once a day but do note that its with the numbers they received the prior day by 4 PM So their data is always 20 hours stale at best And abandon all hope over the weekends because they just wont bother|1 Resident evil|0 Conservative trump supporters hopefully until today believed that the virus is a hoax and we shouldnt care because were better than dirty Asian countries|1 The death rate isnt 4|0 Thank you I have updated that case|1 Most people were not shitting on them Most were saying it seems extreme but if it gets the job done then worth it|1 My thoughts exactly Its gonna get interesting Especially when the National Guard quarantines towns and the rednecks dont understand what a quarantine is|1 A nurse told you she would lie about you and put damaging lies into your medical record if you didnt stop calling I would follow up on that when you feel better that is unacceptable|0 I dont think it is true since their number of suspected cases never went down Do you have any source where I can check what you are talking aboutAs far as I am concerned they plan to get 30k tests in Hubei and already ordered 6k tests doesnt mean it is 6k tests daily They cant even produce that amount of tests daily|1 they quitwhy in the past many people have quit the WH because of incompetent leaders not letting them do their jobs|0 I also agree you should take a news break This forum is good to prepare yourself but now that the world is infected this reddit offers little to no help aside from being in the know of whats going down|0 Oh dang so elderly people That really sucks|0 Seems to have been infected by visitors from Wuhan who are staying with her|0 Huh i dont forget grandma|1 Dude it was Thursday for me less than a week ago I looked this up when there was a confirmed case in my city and went holy shit How come I dont know or hear about any of this My life was changed forever Now Im fucked because my governor promised more testing but weve ran less than 500maybe 500 by now as a state He wont close down schools he wont mandate a shutdown even though he knows shits gonna hit the fan I was unaware of this 6 days ago|0 Now is a reasonable time to turn to traditional remedies not superstitious ones but powerful and unusual herbs that have been used medically for 1000s of years|1 Thanks we appreciate it I travel a good deal internationally and havent ever had them take that type of info|1 Well the VPNs are still working really well so tell your family member thanks Stuck in Shanghai for another day without internet id be losing my mind from boredom and worry|0 That is my technical concern with the SK and China approach regardless of any concerns about trampling individual rights Their population is not building immunity because almost no one is getting exposed They are not just flattening the curve they are preventing it from peaking at allIn 2 months this will have mostly burned through western countries If a milder version has not taken over by then all it will take is one plague monkey to walk through Seoul or Beijing to set those populations alight and the pandemic spins up againI dont believe in literal Darwinism of the population at large but reducing the infection rate to less than 1 of its natural rate drags the social costs out for way too long|1 In the 2009 H1N1 pandemic CFR estimates were initially very high The final estimates were 20 attack rate with a CFR of 002 14 billion infected and 28000 dead It wast estimated that 10 of people who tested positive for H1N1 were asymptomaticTheir are a lot of moving parts and but do we really think the CFR will be close to 2 Hubei is at a raw CFR of 42 The rest of China is at a raw CFR of 084 South Korea which likely has the broadest testing at this point has a raw CFR of 065 SK is still in early days and some of the mild cases will progress raising CFR More asymptomatic and mild cases will be tested lowering CFR|0 no problem and they should be soluble in aqueous ethanol so dont worry unless youre taking them with moonshine or something|0 Thanks needed that|1 So were losing gas and electric now|0 It sounds wrong but it is true Listen to him talk to Elon Musk there is a video out there that shows only the important bits and he says things that will have you thinking wtf lol You can even see it in Musks face and in his responses He didnt even know what to say|1 fake news|0 I cant imagine staying home when Im sick Ive waited tables prepared food done office work and even worked outside in the snow when sick Life is hard and then you die of a preventable disease|0 It was actually strange there was this one day in early February where I got SO SICK Like out of the blue all of a sudden I went from feeling absolutely fine to absolutely horrible in a matter of hours My throat hurt I was coughing up a storm Fever of 101 I literally went to bed at 8 pm in tears because I hadnt felt so horrible in all my life Then I woke up the next morning and I felt 90 better again No fever No cough No sore throat A little lethargic but that was it Fast forward two weeks and both my parents got what I had Except for them it lasted a little while longer My dads still dry coughing and its been a little over a month None of us had seen a doctor because we all presented coldflulike symptoms and it wasnt anything we hadnt seen before But I cant help but be curious now about whether or not it had anything to do with whats going on|0 Carry sanitizing wipes Wipe down all the surfaces around you on plane seat backs trays arm rests buckles window area as soon as you get to your seatDont take any drinks or food from the stewardess cartsWear a mask Sitting on a plane for many hours even a surgical mask will keep you from touching your faceDont touch any surfaces you dont need to in airport Use sanitizer after touching railingsWipe down your luggage handles when you pick up baggageAs soon as you get to destination wipe down your luggage shoes with sanitizing wipes or sprayTake a shower and put travel clothes in plastic bags to wash|0 While I agree at the same time what is someone to do if they only get 2 or 3 days of sick time The boss is gonna say hope ya feel better by the way youre fired|1 Yep Its going to REALLY tank as soon as the US cases go full Wuhan|1 Ive always been bemused that hospitals dont use UV producing lamps as a light source for just this reason We need to go back to brass door handles and hand rails for this reason too|1 Question for CDCpence should be at what point should we panic|0 Thats a great comfort to those whove had loved ones die |1 Why is this so common How is it that so many older parents are so selfish but have managed to raise at least somewhat less selfish kids Even if your mom doesnt care for her own health and safety this isnt cancer diabetes or COPD its a contagious disease Maybe she could still manage to care about everyone elses livesIm not trying to call out your mother specifically I just wonder what happens as you age that makes that kind of attitude so prevalent|0 Im aware of everything you say but it is everywhere at this point We are just waiting on confirmed cases Lots of governments have acknowledged that there will be an outbreak Additionally there are several professions where it is basically a matter of time until you get it regardless of what you do Short of quitting jobs there are a lot of people who are high risk I can understand those people going on holiday because realistically going through an airport is comparable risk to continuing life as normal Its a different story if you can go full hermit mode and work from home|0 My first cruise was the prison cell you speak of Next one was a balcony Id never get a room without a balcony again |0 and not necessarily something Id expect the average person to pick up onI would have taken eat the oldest stuff first so it doesnt expire as pretty common sense|0 Yup and because school funding is tied to attendance they wont cancel Until its so bad that the funding isnt the biggest issue|0 I spoke to a surgeon at MGH today and theres no clarity except for theyre going to let Bringhams carry the brunt of it Sketchy shit at MGH|0 Boston Marathon will almost certainly be canceled so thats a massive waste of time|0 Has there been alot really Show me Like I said my comment is according to Al Jazeera who have broken down all the cases Maybe one or two have contracted since that article that I dont know about 11 million people in Wuhan and only 170 deaths out of the 2000 or so who have contracted Its clearly not on the level of SARS They dont tell you about the people who died who for the most part were old and frail or have a low immune system due to something else Thats not what bothers me though what bothers me is the media spreading fear amongst the masses As I said in another reply my fucking Uber driver here in Australia told me hes not taking Asian riders because hes scared Thats fucked and its not even his fault its the fucking media|0 I hate the doom and gloom trend of reddit|0 Stop posting the worst fucking sources This source is not trustable Its like using daily mail as your source only worse|0 I hear if you buy the special Alex Jones toothpaste youll be safe|1 he broke the law you knob|0 How can we tell if theyre really filtering or not I still get lots of fake news|0 how can you not be bitter if something you are very passionate is taken away from you and there is nothing you can do about it|1 The virus is brand new It will take more time to study it properly Theres no way around thatRight now we have a number of nations that are facing a health crisis within the next couple weeks The doctors from Wuhan are one of the best sources of information that we have at this point so if their consensus is that high blood pressure seems to be a key risk factor then the world needs to take that very seriously|0 Im not crying you are As a white dude living in a Mexican neighborhood this makes sense to me Theyre such nice people|1 I think in this case the declaration of a state of emergency by our Governor prevents price hikes I dont know the long and short of those rules but it happens every time we have a hurricane coming too|0 Wait But I want it now|1 Thankyou for the clear and helpful info Its this context that we need to remember when looking at the numbers|1 Thats not true about Canada They have strict quarantines of all potentially infected people|0 A large majority of friends and family go on as if nothing is happening Family going across the country for a spring break vacation next week|1 Smith was onto somethingYa too bad it wont just take down the far right but those of us who actually care and want to live more in harmony with the biosphere|1 All the hand waving cant disguise the fact that this is a cash pump supporting one of the largest asset bubbles in history Without treasury support the whole house of cards would collapse|1 Sure Ill just go tell the patients we received a ton of health equipments from China but China is evil so we cant use that and we will let you die instead|0 Just because someone is at an age where they could have children doesnt mean they definitely have them Lots of people never have any children|0 I live Zhejiang and my city has yet to have a confirmed case But the large cities that surround my city all have confirmed cases Its only a matter of time before we will get our first confirmed case Still nothing is open and to me that is good Grocery stores are only open from noon to five Im only worried because I have a 17 month old boy But if it was me and my wife only Id stick it out But we are going to leave China Wednesday and return when things begin to settle|1 It causes mass hysteria for like 2 weeks Then it dies down as everyone realizes its gonna be a while before it gets here and gets to work prepping Thats how it went down in Asia minus China|0 And the needed viral concentration to cause an infection If you dilute some coughs over a 150 m2 room most of that already settled he speaks about hours later and that would be still infectious it would be everywhere and we wouldnt be able to trace cases Also the secondary attack rates would be crazily high Christian Drosten eg estimated that in a room with very calm air if somebody coughs and leave a cough plume they walk out you walk in and you have the bad luck to inhale just exactely that plume which still stands there in place in the air largely that would still be infectious|0 They all snorted blow off the same shackled male slaves dick|0 Yep i limited myself to checking the sub once in the morning and once at night been a lot less anxious since then|0 Check Ill add a pencil|0 I know the flu vaccine does not help with immunity at face value with COVID19 however does anyone know if there is a noticeable difference of how hard it hits between people who got the flu vaccine this year and those that did notI wonder if getting the vaccine revs up the immune system in a positive way that helps indirectly with keeping COVID19 symptom severity down|1 Good luck with that|1 There are now more daily deaths in Italy 36 than in China 28 Im hoping the Italian government will do all they can to prevent this from getting worse |0 Like Ill cut them a lil slack because at first they didnt know how infectious it is nor did they know its transmissible in its asymptomatic phase|0 Trump says something stupid and lies to the American people Trump supporter comes in to immediately defend thisWhat a fucking shocker These people are going to be responsible for the downfall of America|0 Yes they all did Obama said as much and begged the republican controlled Congress to repeal of amend the post 911 AuMF but they wouldnt do it because they wanted their next guy to have full access to those powers|1 Yeah wtf He was absolutely asymptomatic He contracted the disease in Singapore travelled to France where he infected some people Travelled into the UK and visited multiple locations around Brighton infecting yet more people and THEN started to feel ill and reported himselfx200Bhttpswwwthearguscouknews18226200coronavirussuperspreaderrevealedstevewalshhttpswwwthearguscouknews18226200coronavirussuperspreaderrevealedstevewalsh|0 I had surgery 25 weeks ago in NYC My situation is being monitored by my surgeon but there is a chance I will have to go back in to get additional procedures in the next few weeks if the infection comes backbuilds up elsewhere I am terrified of what the hospital situation will be if I do actually end up needing it for NONcorona related reasons and cant help but wonder if I should have postponed my surgery|0 agreed stay homestay safe|1 Im not arguing one way or the other but 9month is a seriously extreme outlier Dont base everyones experience on your stroke of luck|1 There can be more than one evil person in the world unfortunately|0 Blame U S aaaaa blame U s aaaaEdit joke about blame Canada south park song|0 Meanwhile my place are just cutting our hours while still expecting us to make normal profits|1 Yeah one person in the whole country apocalypse is here|1 investigations was Sanders but that ship is leaving the harbor nowIm a big Bernie fan but even then Im somewhat skeptical even he would investigate Hed want to move on and focus on policy and not revenge or some shit like thatWe need revenge but no politician wants to run on that|1 hopefully all those claps will generate enough wind to make the virus go away|1 The problem is that as a leader of a democracy the things you should do during a fastspreading pandemic are the exact opposite of the things you should do if you want to keep the economy stable and keep people happy Nobody wanted to rock the boat at first but now world leaders are starting to see the writing on the wall|1 Monday WCSD went in to get everything in order Meetings on how to handle online teaching and meeting with students Some students came into school to borrow chrome books since they dont have a home computer Read the email telling them spring break is moved up to this week snow days will be used so they can get State aid Daycares will stay open so businesses can stay open and first responders have some where to place kids So yeah they kind of had to go in to do some work get all of there chickens in order and hand out some stuff No one is happy about it but theyre making due I only know this because my mother and two friends teach in the high school|1 How serious it is is better judged by how severe it is rather than the spead for which they have a ballpark already On the cruise ship they will have a controlled population to how many require hospital care ICU ventilation oxygen etc That gives the best information for the purposes of working out how much life saving treatment there is Spread will vary by location So the R0 will be higher if the originator is on a cruise ship school prison or high density area It will vary with hygiene practices for the area cleaning practices ability to isolate if it gets going in the area etc The R0 should be more variable than the severity though that can change based on the strain too|1 the media didnt spook them into keeping businesses closed until feb 9th the shanghai government ordered it the only people i know of who blame the chinese are chinese people from hong kong that i know who think of mainlanders as uncivilized and criticize the open wild animal market because thats where sars came from too|0 Stay safe I am so sorry to hear what you all are going through right now I hope that this virus passes and takes no more lives of people no one deserves any of this I pray for you your family and everyone in the heavily affected areas You are all in our hearts and in our prayers I live in North Carolina and were getting more cases around where I live so Im staying in and taking care of my family to avoid getting this virus It spreads so rapidly that when people find out they have it its too late and has already affected others We are all here for you all and are thinking about you |1 Its because in America we arent taught to care for one another We talk about it and acknowledge it in a superficial way but we dont actually absorb it into our culture Its the reason why when someone truly selfless and genuine comes along we are dumbfounded This virus is going to really show peoples true colors|1 Wuhan is at a complete standstill economically and is being supported by the production of the rest of China atm What happens when everywhere is Wuhan|1 They might be less infectious but they certainly can transmit the disease|1 At some point can they say what the growth rate is and reverse engineer an infection date Or is there just too much variability in individuals|1 I submitted information but was unable to view any data because the URL is too long I hope its not a scam|1 Not that he is doing out of generosity may afraid of sick tenants wilfully making him sick with contaminated money checks|0 Hmm not good|0 Great if it is going to start to spread around college campuses in a few months a lot of students may unknowingly be infected Then needing time away from the outbreak Spring break travelers|1 Yes becase Apple is a tech stock and paying out a cash dividend or investing in someone elses project is a terrible signal for a tech stock Its basically telling shareholders that equity growth is no longer in its plans and it will no longer be focused on innovation and disruption Its saying that shareholders are better off taking their cash and investing in another project It has very little to do with weathering out a stormYou guys should considering reading up on security analysis and financial statement due diligence before spreading this kind of false info|1 Would it be a shitty time to strike|0 6 days after quarantine ended so past the median incubation period of 34 days These N1 stories dont mean anything|1 I got insulted on rBoxoffice by this one user because i had argued if it got worse outside of china it would effect everyone and blah blah and I was told you dont know anything about the VIrus you dumb blah blahPeople were in denial back then|0 I believe he said hes asking Congress to cut payroll tax Dont think he can do it himself|0 Heres how to stop the virus seriouslymany experts will tell you a surgical masks bandana cloth will not do a good job from keeping a healthy person from getting the virus However it does a great job at keeping an infected persons droplets out of the airIf everyone assumes they are sick and wear a mask then no droplets in the air And the cost would be virtually free and wont even need much distribution or wait to do this Just a couple months of this after no cases would really stave off the virus Yet we are going to wait until it gets worse until we finally act just like weve been for weeks|0 I have one for painting but it only protects me It has a valve so when I exhale it comes out totally unfiltered This could still protect others if I dont already have it cause it might stop me from becoming infected but Im not sure its worth the alarm it might cause because its like a big scary gas mask you know|0 Exactly Im diabetic and could get very ill from this People saying its just the flu well I and people similar to me get a free flu jab every year so we dont get sick and die Theres no herd immunity or jabs for covid19 Noone is immune|0 Ohh alright thanks|1 We cant save everyone that is the harsh reality of this situation|0 What else to celebrate|1 Yep and they have not announced any plans for employees who get sick They still have to use their own PTO and will get attendance points which is a reprimand system for every day you call in Im pissed Its so beyond uncaring at this point There are a lot of elderly cast members in the parks|0 Thats very true though it does make me wonder aloud what kind of world we live in where we value economic impact over potential loss of lifeSomeone somewhere is having to do some pretty grim calculus on potential present versus future loss and I for one dont evny them|1 I opened a same post in Steam forums today Nobody seemed to careAlso this would benefit not only kids|1 I think apathy from the alarmist media cycle along with normalcy bias has many people unsure of how to act especially with the still limited information at this point If this is bad it will blow up very quickly and every person government body will take full notice at that point By then the damage will have been done I guess the best thing we can do now is not spread misinformation not panic and take the usual preventative health measures|0 The scary thing is these mild cases can in many times crash after a couple weeks leading to severe respiratory distress and possible deathThere are probably a lot of deaths right now going unreported because the people were never tested to begin with and very few people are being tested posthumously|0 doesnt seem to make any difference if we know theyre letting everyone down were helpless to change anything|0 I think Massachusetts will join that club|1 Exactly 3rd world asian countries infected Cambodia for example do not have the means to treat nor contain this|0 My friend works in the ICU and said that in fact a lot of people who are dieing from this virus are the ones with a lower BMI 20 Being overweight is not ideal but being underweight should not be overlooked as a risk factor either|0 Oh dear|1 Well there are many different coronaviruses and it has caused confusion hereOne poster said that they found out there was a case in St Louis because a friend saw a hospital chart saying coronavirus People started upvoting it missing that it was a different coronavirus likely the common coldOthers seem to think that it only affect Asian people ignoring that we have plenty of evidence of all races being affected by various coronavirusesAs a result it might be better to stick with Wuhan Coronavirus|1 So when socialism works it is automatically not socialism No true scotsman|0 They need to close Mar a Lago and give it one of those deep cleaningsIm sure it needs it considering how there are so many reports of bed bugs and unsanitary kitchens so good propertiesTrump would be humiliated if that is an emotion he is capable of|1 Again there is no need to signal scarcity Were not looking at longterm trend forecasting There is a critical nearterm supply crunch Manufacturers know there is scarcity because their distributorsretail partners around the world are selling out of stock and banging on their doors for more than they can produceIt all boils down to the main pointit should not be up to independent mask distributors where there is need for critical supplies based on price points If some billionaire in India is willing to buy 1000000 masks from an Italian mask factory for 100 each to keep in his basementdoes that indicate that India must need the masks more because Italian distributorsgovernment can only afford to buy them for 1 each|0 yes lets emulate Chinas authoritarianismI get that freedom has costs sometimes Still preferable to actual communism|1 Ill let natural selection do its job|0 Well then that argument should have been burried months ago once the lancet studies started coming out|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and source your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Totally agreeThat happened yesterday in Milan The lockdown wasnt still effective and it was already published on journals Result hundred of people on trains leaving the region|0 Its also possible they arent prioritizing tracking recoveries andor its difficult to determine without a test kitIn the German case the man had mild symptoms then felt better but was still tested positive and had to quarantine and be monitored In similar cases like that in China Id imagine even if the patient would test negative a week later they wouldnt bother using a test kit to confirm in favor of diagnosing patients with severer symptoms eg pneumoniaIn addition some cases of general flu influnze a b c take a long time to recover as well so Id expect a long lag|1 Im exactly the same My family surviving this is my main priority dont care if anyone thinks Im crazy My mum has diabetes so her age plus that puts her at risk They have a freezer packed cupboards stocked up with pasta rice and tins their dog has months worth of food and shes got her bread maker out lolI linked her to the coronavirus subreddit cause I was telling her stuff I was reading online and she wanted to see for herself So shes even got herself an oximeter now after reading about it lolThey arent going to be going out anymore after reading whats happening in Italy I think everyone should be convincing their older relatives to stay put at home and helping them prepare in any way they can|1 Its incredible Matzo replaces the usual pasta for a rich lasagna thats Passoverfriendly and relatively easy Heres the recipe I love httpscookingnytimescomrecipes1020158matzolasagnaSometimes the NYT gets paywally so here you goIngredients cup extravirgin olive oil plus more for serving4 garlic cloves thinly sliced4 anchovies finely chopped optional teaspoon black pepper teaspoon redpepper flakes plus more for serving2 28ounce cans whole peeled tomatoes teaspoon fine sea salt plus more as needed1 rosemary sprig2 cups24 ounces wholemilk ricotta preferably fresh1 large egg cup basil leaves chopped plus more for serving teaspoon freshly ground black pepper teaspoon freshly grated nutmeg1 10ounce box matzo preferably egg or salted matzo1 pound fresh mozzarella sliced then torn into bitesize pieces cup freshly grated ParmesanDirectionsHeat oven to 375 degrees In a large pot over medium heat oil and stir in garlic anchovies if using pepper and redpepper flakes Cook until garlic starts to brown 3 to 5 minutesUse your hands to squeeze and crush the whole tomatoes as you add them to the pot along with any liquid in the cans or use kitchen shears to cut the tomatoes in the can Stir in 12 teaspoon salt and rosemary sprig bring to a gentle simmer and simmer at mediumlow heat for 20 minutesMeanwhile in a medium bowl stir together ricotta egg basil pepper remaining 14 teaspoon salt and nutmegTo assemble the lasagna spread generous 12 cup sauce on the bottom of a 9by13 baking dish Place matzo crackers in an even layer on top breaking crackers to fit as necessarySpread half the ricotta mixture over the matzo layer spreading all the way to the edges Top with generous 34 cup tomato sauce then scatter with 13 of the mozzarellaRepeat matzo ricotta tomato sauce and mozzarella layersTop with a final layer of matzo then spread remaining tomato sauce about 2 cups on top making sure all of the matzo is covered Top with remaining mozzarella and 12 cup ParmesanCover with foil and bake for 20 minutes Remove foil and continue to bake until cheese is golden and sauce is bubbly about 20 to 25 minutes longer Remove from oven and let cool for 5 to 10 minutes then serve topped with more basil a drizzle of olive oil and more redpepper flakes if you like|1 From the standpoint of a government Yes The wellbeing of the other 97 is absolutely worth sacrificing 3 Cause if unemployment supply shortages and public security get bad enough those 97 are the ones who will revolt and overthrow the government You can see this in countries like the UK which are not taking huge steps to close public places To them its worth more people getting infected and dying if it keeps the survivors employed and engaged in the economy|1 Im in MA We have many schools closed tomorrow for cleaning we have several districts closed already for either two or three weeks Im hoping we take this more seriously We need to slow it down so people can get health care and not die Its three weeks of your life folks And the government needs to give money to those who cant work Period|1 One of the things that absolutely disgusts me about this is that these people have no idea who they are scoffing at Even if they wrongly believe that masks are unnecessary because its just the flu bro theyre assuming that you have no underlying conditions that youre not immunocompromised or dealing with cancer or whatever else Its just this profound egocentrism that I find so fucking disgusting|0 Personally I dont think we have the federal resources to lockdown nationally But we can go after hotspot areas like Seattle and NYC If I were to guess the focus will be large city hotspots or if its kind of easy a state or two WA might be relatively easy to quarantine because of the bridges on major freeways and the Canadian border checkpointsI keep having visions of World War Z where cities are quarantined and the inhabitants are left on their own Kinda of scary thoughtStill I think we can do a national SHELTERINPLACE order where people are threatened with jail if they leave home without authorization|0 Please it is not the kissing thing Maybe at first now I dont think so lol|1 Tf Water Do they think public utilities are going to collapse and that this is some nuclear fallout|0 Which would likely kill more people than the virus ever would|0 socialism sSHlizm nouna political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production distribution and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a wholeWhere exactly does giving people a monthly stipend fit into this|1 This is naive All markets are going down regardless of measures The best science appears to be an attempt to flatten the curve via social distancing which creates an unavoidable negative impact to markets|1 This virus may be slowed but it will not be stopped Its already spread everywhere The lack of available testing is just a nice way to keep the official numbers down If you havent gotten it yet its just a matter of time If you are old or sick youd better become a hermit for a few weeksyour life may depend on it|1 Time off with pay or not paySick leave could be forced no work no money situation How do they even decided what to pay them|0 The CDC cuts were a proposal for 2021 so it didnt actually happen yet|0 Correct me if im wrong but isnt the witcher immune to diseases|0 Thats fine since he did cross the line and directly harm others but we should not let the coronavirus be an excuse to take away our civil liberties including freedom of speech Always keep an eye out|1 I cant believe I have to pause my normal criminal behavior |0 Did you watch the conference He didnt say that Stop drawing conclusions when you dont know all the information and clearly dont understand the situation|1 Yes and Newt Gingrichs post from Italy that the US is screwing this up|1 Worth it|1 Sure But can we safely assume that there was a classified briefing regarding COVID19 that was given to the US Senate earlier today And if so why was it classified|1 Because theyre retarded|0 Yea VPN doesnt exist lol|0 No one ever said thatIt likely started at the Hunan Seafood Market in Wuhan China|0 You havent heard about explosions of cases in Iran Iran has a massive number of cases based on its death rate|0 Nah theres a lot of schools in rural areas too|0 And so they have a reason to exclude persons whose input is incongruous and inconvenient for their headinthesand message|0 Thanks LeBron all those fans are stuck at home just wanting to watch the damn Lakers game|0 Here is the source of the text shown in the posted imagehttpswwwevergreenhealthcomcommunitymessage3520 As of March 3 the CDC has determined COVID19 is now endemic meaning that the virus is now considered to be regularly found in our region amongst our population|1 Oh yeah I work for a hotel that hosts a major portion of the airline crews that come through town Just imagine how many people that could transmit to in a matter of days|1 The most positive beautiful let me tell you Like my Uncle MIT Trump he studied at John so i am a natural positive|1 A good chunk of the state of Maine doesnt have rubbing alcohol hand sanitizer or Lysol wipes|1 Me Moral grandstanding Never have I praised Chinas efforts in tackling the Wuhan crisis here You are the one giving yourself a pat on the back for fighting for diversity plurality democracy Whats that I said about the pro HK crowd putting itself on a pedestal You have this grand vision of HKers being some kind of saints and heroes Theyre just none of that in my book Its a matter of opinion Dont get so worked up about it Ill repeat myself Stop exploiting this platform to push for your political agenda against China just like what OP is doing Have some sympathy for those suffering and dying from the illness for gods sake|0 The government was saying not to go to northern Italy and if having symptoms when returned not to go in public and to call the emergency number 112Meanwhile this moron went to political rallies shook everybodys hand and hugged everybody cough on his fucking fist Then after testing positive he drove his mother to a hospital instead of staying home as told He has nobody to blame but himself|1 Not really though You dont just sell such an important company to another state in a state of emergency Wouldnt ever happen Germany wouldve just expropriated the owner and go on with development under state ownership|0 This is twitter Everything is racist|0 Yes I too perfectly understand what you are sayingThis is THE problem I would like to cite a famous quotation from a popular Chinese SciFi novel The Three Body ProblemIt is not weakness that costs men their lives it is arroganceUnderestimation of the situation has caused a significant loss in Wuhan I hope not again in the US China used lives of thousands of human beings to buy the world some time hopefully it is not in vain|1 Yeah I noticed this weekend quote a few people wearing them On the ferry now and have seen a few as well I read that until there is more cases though that we are better off without then because the constant action of putting your hands close to your face etc So Im gonna wait to use mine|1 Thats for sure and each person has different mindset regarding this|1 I wish we would do that proactively here in America On my citys sub they are talking about still going out partying for the canceled St Paddys Day parade People do not get it at all|1 Even grass is good If you hand gets dirty the grass does a good cleaning job|1 Hm Turns out Elon is a classist piece of shit|0 Because its silly to think that they put it back up just because if a petition and not because they planned to from the beginningYou guys really think they said lets remove it noone will notice then when they noticed people are angry about it and started writing petitions suddenly made a new site in one day|0 No the guy Wolf was specifically asked about regular flu he said 2 The senator then asked if he was sure and he doubled downHe waffled on COVID19 saying less than 2 and after being passed settling in between 15 and 2 No one was convinced he knew what he was talking aboutSpanish influenza was terrible because it was especially lethal to healthy adults aged 2040 And it happened during the first world war which was especially lethal to healthy adults aged 2040 There is no sign of that with COVID19|0 But itll have a nice bite|1 Antibiotics do not help viral infections|0 fuck those people fuck those people fuck those people fuck those peoplefuck those people fuck those peoplefuck those people fuck those people|0 It really doesnt matter at this point Anyone showing symptoms should be processed as if they have it They arent even doing contact investigations anymore because so many people have it|0 Plz dont say wildfire|1 no thats where the filter goes just use tape to insulate the bottom opening|0 Correct but anyone who is not infected can still breathe it in if the mask doesnt fit correctly It helps but if youre not infected its a false sense of security If youre not infected you need to filter all air that you take in in order to actually be protected|1 Best way to not overstress hospitals is to strictly quarantine an area to prevent spreadQuarantining an area doesnt magically make it where the people in that area no longer need medical treatment The purpose of quarantining an area is to slow spread the from that area but thatll never happen unless you test lots of people in the areaWe know its already endemic to the area a lack of quarantine and avocation of strict social isolation is because of political leaders not making tough decisions Now Evergreen Health can continue operating and testing as normal in the Seattle area hoping that their actions prompt leaders to make new choices or they can see the writing on the wall and start preparing for what will happen regardless of whether or not the Seattle area gets quarantined off from the rest of the country Youre wanting a major healthcare provider to burn through resources and not take preventative actions in order to get political leaders to make different choices You want action to be taken but apparently action only by political leadership|1 Ah my bad I quit nicotine earlier this year so its on my mind Cant imagine having to quit now Or go without for 9 hours while in ppe|0 Looking back this was probably a very good thing even though it consumed so much of the states resources The NBA suspending its season was the first big domino that fell prompting a massive chain reaction of cancellations by sports leagues cities and states They jumpstarted corona concern in the US because in a matter of hours really we went from passive perusing to pure panicking I too was initially critical about the Utah Jazz special privileged access to testing but thinking back I believe we should be thanking the league for being as bold and aggressive as they were They catapulted a movement and saved a tremendous number of lives due to the snowballing effects of social distancing they created Who knows how long it would have taken the country to get to this point if the NBA hadnt cancelled the season when they did How many lives would that have cost us in the end Remember NBA arenas can hold about 20000 ppl Multiply that by up to 15 games a day gets you to 300K attendance a day So Even if you want to argue that they had no influence on anything else shutting down which come on you cant deny that everyone saw that and was like woahhhh they singlehandedly prevented 300000 potential cases each day They really deserve credit for thatIn cases of exponential growth like with corona containing it in the earliest days are critical and leads to many lives saved down the line So yes even though they did kind of monopolize testing I strongly believe that the alternative would have been far worse in the end Thank you Adam Silver But also fuck you rudy gobert for being so irresponsible and making a fool of yourself|1 Yes 100|1 If I dont want to be a successor and better than me at the Sistine Chapel I want to be that guy|1 Are there any effective reusable types|1 Even many young doctors died in Wuhan s hospital |0 Wish I had that Im gonna stock up on frozen foods this week|1 I suppose but my entire family depends on me for health insurance Its a fucked up situation to be in yay USA s|0 Thanks for your sacrifice|1 no keep america great|1 Amen Completely agree|1 Im going to a wedding this weekend in the Republic of Ireland Yes its going ahead but myself and many health compromised family members are obviously concerned I was hoping a travel advisory was going to be issued today but alas nothing|1 You should stop signing anything Just tell them why Signatures are flimsy proof anyway What will they do take back your stuff Very doubtful|0 Bill warned us and we didnt listen I hope he makes a collective effort with other billionaires to donate a sizeable portion to fund research for not only this virus but others as well Have the government match or double their donations|1 Without a doubt|1 time to start self isolating folks at this point Ive been saying this for weeks now and everyone at work including physicians laugh and say Im now curious|1 I agree He has taken this very seriously for several weeks now|1 I think its a good place to start but I agree|1 This comment i just couldnt agree with more My girlfriends roommates tested and came back positive with the virus She cant get tested because she doesnt have symptoms but was also living in the same house as 2 people who came back positive We are isolating ourselves to my room and not leaving the house I moved her into my house but when we heard the news we both left work cause they said tell anyone youve been in contact with to get tested too bad utah only has 40 people they can test a day shits a joke Oh also she cant go back to work until she get a negative test result but cant test her and all of this is unpaid Im quarantined cause idk if I have it and dont wanna spread it Not the best time to be a poor college student |0 Agreed The group is reducing but some of the just the flu have only made it to a little worse than the flu and I will be okay anyway what about the economy I call these people idiots Im sure others have stronger words|0 China contained it pretty well while US is in denial mode and EU and Korea are in panic mode|1 Accusing is when something is about to be proven or disproven but have not been so yet CCP welded people in their home and people spread the news because it was already proven that they did|0 I assume to get financial aid related to missing work due to the coronavirus you would also have to be tested for and diagnosed with the coronavirus so sounds nice but without tests we arent able to get help from our government|1 Seriously buy a 24 pack of peebs and get smashed at home|0 Youd think so but if you look at the 2008 financial crisis the big money at first were all complaining about the lack of regulation that allowed this to happen and afterwards took their bailouts and told regulators to fuck off Tldr money comes before Good policy|0 This makes me happy |1 Im not sure its virtue signaling I think people are faced with cognitive dissonance and dont know what to doThe propaganda was effective people genuinely believe masks are useless After all it was an easy pill to swallow Americans dont want to wear masks so an expert telling them masks are useless means they take it at facevalue and dont want to think critically about itSo all is fine and dandy until they see someone wearing a mask Now this is where cognitive dissonance comes in Oh shit why are they wearing a mask Let me convince them that masks are useless so that my worldview is sound If they still arent convinced Ill tell them that masks are actually DANGEROUS for them Fuck masks|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Lol|1 Havent these damned things arrived yetEdit why downvote brigade Weve been hearing about this since last week|1 Shoppers deserve part of the blame as well If no one came into their stores they wouldnt stay open|0 Fact Disney world is temporary closed every flu seasons|0 Absolutely agree with this Look at this article from January 8 2020 from FloridaFLU SEASON IN FLORIDA COULD BE WORST IN HISTORYHealth officials had warned the 20192020 flu season could be one of the worst in history Although the season tends to peak in February in South Florida doctors report they are not only treating two strains of the flu they are also sending people to the hospital with complications such as pneumoniaAbout 80 percent of the cases we are seeing involve some type of respiratory illness said Paolo Coll a family medicine doctor with Memorial Urgent Care Clinic in Pembroke Pines While the flu symptoms tend to clear up in one to two weeks the cough tends to linger he saidhttpswwwsunsentinelcomhealthflnefluseasonflorida20200108smylr2hx5zhc7fnewajgajidfastoryhtml|0 The overall hospitalization rate in South Korea patients that are at least in serious condition is currently around 15httpsbnonewscomindexphp202002thelatestcoronaviruscases so fears of much higher hospitalization rates have fortunately not materialized|0 Im sitting here in my car cackling like a madman thanks I needed that today|1 America is the fucking worst|0 And no I do not agree with a guy who thinks Rocardo is wrong in fact I think he isnt as smart as he think he is|0 I thought the opposite People who work with him say that hes the opposite of what a CEO usually is Meaning nothing like a businessman and more of doing the actual engineering himselfknowing how all of the technical stuff works|0 Is it though The vast majority of people will have no symptoms or mild symptoms If whilst isolating the vulnerable the virus disappears in the population through herd immunity then we protect them|0 That was without any control Now all countries are very alert for this virus|1 I dont follow this 20 second ruleI wash my hands until my hand cleaning process is finished If 20s elapse before then I dont stopThen I repeatSometimes I repeat again|1 Sorry but this is so incredibly infuriating Your solution although wellmeant is so insufficient It may even be sufficient Damn man is just the darn principle of the matter My apologies|0 haha fuck 30 days ago they were warning people about the devastation it would cause to people living paycheque to paychequemight as well say human life could stop if the sun refuses to rise in parts of the world|0 We are going the way of SK not of Italy Hopefully US will follow shortly after|0 Well we also had a common enemy to unite against thats extremely important This well its hard to hate a nonthinking reactive thing Unfortunately people need a reason to act and a virus apparently isnt reason enough Another country threatening muh safety thats another story Also hard to rally people around Sit at home and do nothing to stay safe easier to make people think theyre fighting something by waving a flag and shit|0 Its not You cant trust online pharmacies and nothing should be taken without your medical doctors consent|1 Both my company and the company we support are enforcing quarantine if someone has been to one of the hot spots The company we support is working on getting most of their employees to work from home I dont know if this will extend to us eventually as we would need more tools to support the other group Personally Im more concerned about what the schools plan to do|1 I agree with all that I think the same as with any flu season Minimise contact Use good hygiene Get plenty of rest|1 I recommend binge watch tree house of horror |0 I hope so just cautioning about assumptions We dont lose much by preparing for the worstI am rooting for us not the virus|1 Administration waste Costly union jobs More waste|0 Dont worry they infested this sub too I doubt this post will last much longer Mod will label it as repeat or low effort and delete it|0 They want people to die too many people in the US|0 I am pretty sure everyone one at my office has it 400 people Tons of coughing fatigue and sniffles86 seems conservative in cities|1 Thats fine until the factories close|1 Honestly its the biggest I told you so Ive ever had in my life|1 This will age like milk for Chikwe|1 Its gonna happen they will all spring break get sick come home crash on the sofa bubye boomer parents whoopsies|0 I dunno actually I think it might be quite clever I am not a behavioural psychologist but it is something I am interested in and studied in a few different areas Firstly it reminds me of childrens playgrounds bare with me landscape designer in that perfectly designed managed and safe playgrounds result in something ridiculous like 300 more injuries than unsafe playgrounds Make something look purposefully risky and unprecedented and injuries are basically none existent or very rare because children take a lot of care as they dont feel safe Not saying we will have no cases at all I mean I think individuals and businesses are more likely to be trying to make their own precautions above and beyond government ones to safeguard themselves than if the government had stepped up more hereSecondly reminds me of something Chris Voss said on Never split the difference which is about psychology and negotiation You basically want the other person to come up with the idea not you as then its more likely to be enacted and followed throughRisky strategy though and UK are really experimenting with ourselves here so we will have to step up to the mark|1 Its to get out American citizens who want to leave Most are either diplomats or tourists there temporarily Most of the Americans living in Wuhan are stayingThe CDC is also capable of identifying the virus and will certainly be testing everybody aboard There will also be medical attendants on the plane and checks before boardingIts extremely resource intensive but disease spreads from one flight like this is unlikely|1 We are cleared out too here in Alabama No medical alcohol period No one seems to be taking it seriousaccept for hoarding things I guess|0 It depends on size of the cluster Not everyone will be reinfected and you need infected ppl to reinfect you|0 Are you fucking kidding me|1 That was one type of rare stroke hemorrhagic In the more common type ischemic meat eaters fared far worse The elevated risk is actually 000032 The meat eaters in that study were on cholesterol lowering medications so it was not well designed anyway And later studies showed no increased risk of stroke You have decreased chance of all cause mortality if you dont eat animal products and for that study they did not differentiate between vegans and vegetarians The vegetarian in the study ate 30 more cheese which is loaded with fat an cholesterol So youre really only damned if you do|0 Isnt price gouging illegal|1 My mom is 78 Kinda crazy to know she will die this year or the next Im already mentally preparing but I know it wont help much|0 And if youre like me and your ADHD brain is basically 17 angry weasels in a sack walking meditation is also pretty cool The movement makes it easier for me to quiet my mind and I still get the benefits of meditation so yay|1 Who isnt already spacing dosages by a couple hours It literally says right on the bottle take one tablet every 46 hours and no more than 8 per day If u cant check for and follow such simple instructions then maybe you deserve to overdose|0 They will read this It still isnt great but this is a big move We do still need more tests and ones that are easier to run httpsfortunecom20200313coronavirustestrochecovid19|1 TexasCriminal Penalty TexasHealth and Safety Code 81085 2003Penalties A person commits an offense if the person knowingly fails or refuses to obey a rule orderor instruction of the department or an order or instruction of a health authority issued under a department rule and published during an area quarantine under this section An offense under this subsection is a felony of the third degreex200BYikes|0 Always Sunny in Wuhan|1 All governments try to control the narrative They do That is like saying all animals try to grow and become stronger Not every government implements the Great Firewall of China Or arrests doctors for expressing their first hand experience treating patients with the virus Or kidnaps reporters and even YouTubers Or creates a social credit score to determine whether you can board trains or travel|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Sir please stop with your sense it doesnt fit the narrative|0 Speaking from no medical back ground Cleared of the symptoms and condition in the lungs may not mean the virus isnt in other parts of the body I really hope This is the case|1 If hes about to become a doctor hes hopefully intelligent enough and cares enough about public health to understand why this is required and doesnt think him having a fancy party is more important than people not dying|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 I have Our intensivists who specialized in pulmonology are obviously experts but other specialties specifically nephrology in my experience are not nearly as experienced as they should be Ive had to refuse unsafe doctor suggestions many times or explain why x thing wouldnt achieve what the doctor wants Different hospitals in the region use different vents which have different some modalities and the doctors arent aware of the more specific details of each vent ex which are peep compensated and which arent when automatic tube compensation can cause PIP issues and when it wont etc etc The vast majority of intensive care and emergency room physicians I work with dont even ask what mode the RT puts the patient on on the ventilator they just leave it to us to manage independently|0 I feel like I see or hear something which gives me more hope or which normalises the situation a bit more and then I see or hear something which scares me shitless again|1 Meanwhile Trump is accidentally pulling a thanos on America|0 With this virus heck a few hours makes a difference to an individual The rate at which things are changing right now Ive never seen in my lifetime Crazy|0 Not even asking for money here I want these big businesses to actually invest in a cure for a virus that is rampant now Not when its Valentines Day and you should show people you care Or have office parties for breast cancer research But then yell hand outs when theres a virus killing people now Huh Invest and stop charging late fees and monthly bills until its over Not a hand out The fact that people think money is more important than a life and then those same people go buy presents to show people they care and that theyre good Huh So upside down Might as well as just say get in the oven everyone|1 Yes we can We will all get through it Im just glad we are able to hunker down So many are not able to Cant imagine the fear of just going to work This should not have happened|1 To address number 3 without combating the research here because this is nothing like the flu except for the initial symptoms roughly 33 of influenza patients are actually asymptomatic which is one factor that might help the flu spread I say might because there is still no definitive answer on whether asymptomatic flu patients have a significant impact on population wide flu infection rates While flu carriers seem to shed the virus at a rate that seems in line with their symptomatic expression meaning that those with very mild or unnoticeable symptoms shed very little virus Covid19 carriers seem to be able to shed very high amounts of the virus while having unnoticeable symptoms overall PS Containment has failed Mitigation of harm and reduction of panic and therefore secondary harm should be the international goal at this point The containment window is firmly and irreversibly closed|0 Yeah thanks for this So 3060 was not a bad guess for ICU cases It came in lower than I thought My point which stands despite the downvotes is that if you took all of those patients and let them fend for themselves you still wouldnt see a 10fold increase in total fatalities You could see at most a 33x increase if they ALL died You couldnt go from 06 to 6 You could go from 06 to like 2 under the worst case scenario presented by uSecretlifeoftrees|0 The ccp is working hard to scrub the net I have no doubt about that People in china Ive been following on Twitter are now gone as are the videos of peeps being shuttered in their homes and etc|0 This sub is almost exclusively for people who are freaking out and want others to do the same|0 Yes you are wise User name checks out As you were|1 Over 100 safest age group|1 Abdominal painSince when is this on the list of typical symptomsWhat kind of abdominal pain|0 Youre absolutely right To the detriment of their country they continue to post accurate information which will almost certainly save lives The US on the other hand I can only hope that the people who chose to vote for a raving idiot see their mistake|1 Is anyone avoiding Chinese because of their genesOr is it because disgusting hygiene culture combined with what appears to be a highly contagious virus being spread and people actively subverting quarantine because of selfishnessOne is racist One has literally nothing to do with race|0 Wuhan alone has a population thats like double our entire country This is bullshit reasoning|0 I mean in the us we still dont have enough test kits So we have that going for us Honestly if I went to any country I would probably have a higher chance to know if I have the virus then I currently do in the us at the moment|1 Ah so sounds like theyll bill any insurance coverage they can Hopefully no outofpocket cost That would be counterproductive indeed Major incentive to avoid or escape quarantine if you cant pay for it|1 You do realize my original post was about the US right|1 Brilliant with your new found 1000 you can now afford a coronavirus test|1 I love you too|1 I somewhat disagree with your post If every nonessential store shuts down and all economic activity is just stopped this would have huge ramifications on our countrys economy as a whole and could put us into a depression Many of these people have bills to pay and cant afford to wait 6 months for this to be resolved without payIf one side is shut everything down and the other is dont do anything about the virus Huge depression vs widespread contagion there should be a middle ground here|0 Its like high school No wants to be uncool and scared Everyone plays it off but you know they probably have that nagging voice inside telling them they might be wrong Also we are all so used to seeing horrible things happening somewhere else no one believes it will ever happen where they live|0 Its a good wakefulness drug though Less side effects|1 Yep following the Italian curve Spain Norway Denmark and Germany are nextFrance will join with record breaking numbers in 45 days Thanks to their wonderful decision of keeping elections throughout the country|1 Arent planes higher risk because of dry air and close quarters for extended periods Or is the risk from travel more to do with the airport itself|1 I worked ther for 15 years at the store level dept mgr I had 40 hours a week 401k plenty of PTO sick days health and dental insurance They worked with my schedule throughout high school and college I took a month leave to go to Berlin no problemYeah i had some terrible managers sometimes and yes my workload was sometimes insane and customers were not always pleasant but it was an ok job and it kept me in shape I worked in a lot of departments and in many stores and store formatsIf you are valuable to your store your managers will generally work with you I generally recommend Walmart as an employer to those who i think it is a good fit for It is not for everyone|1 I work in the emergency department in a state near Washington The chaos this virus is causing is crazy But we do have clear guidelines for testing So Im not sure whats the big deal with her test We run a resp pannel and send suspected cases to the state lab to be runThe chaos is every fucking body has fever and cough this time of year|0 Sounded like everybody in the room asked that question and more than once|1 no one spends as much as the US on healthcareIn terms of raw number of of GDP|0 that means that before heshe tested positive but heshe wasnt counted in the confirmed|1 I was enjoying you IG story until you went to the kitchen Cmon man|1 my napkin math says that 25M would pay for roughly 1 out of every 2000 workers in Seattle to have 12 paid weeks off 005 down only 9995 to go|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and source your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 They actually arent really doing anything Apparently China is sending people only over for propaganda to their own people|0 Exactly I think there are a ton of people like your Mom out there|1 If you search literally anything on google and then add reddit at the end you get endless resultsIf you search anything to do with the virus and then add reddit at the end you get 23 resultsIts pretty blatant|1 If you look at their reason for quarantine it wasnt for any ToS violation Mods there remove stuff against sitewide rules They got quarantined for allowing people to post conspiracy theories The rconspiracy subreddit is still allowed it is obvious that the quarantine is part of the social media misinformation control rollout urged by the WHO and deployed by Facebook and such|0 Yeah were handling it well|1 When it comes with dealing with this virus we dont want to see NYC drop the ball|0 You should I had a planned vacation to Orlando for a 2 weeks of fun and sun from the west coast I cancelled the trip I couldnt get a refund for the flight in a metal tube I didnt want to risk the health of my familyFlorida is a winter destination from people all over the world I was shock to learn that they didnt and dont mandatory quarantine international travelers when they landed I didnt want to become statistics|1 Wow US get your shit together This is so unworthy for such a great nation|1 He deserves those years in prison|0 You can always go lower|0 Maybe they are trying to reduce Earths population poor and old are the target|0 video game joke|1 Few questions1 You state the seasonal flu death rate is 01 however is this because cases of death arent classified as flu but rather what the flu can cause eg pneumonia etc2 The flu vaccine is only about 50 effective with less than 40 of the US population being vaccinated With that said how would a cov2 vaccine really be as compared to say measles with a 97 effectiveness Would herd immunity even apply to something with such a mixed bag of effectiveness3 At its core isnt CoV2 similar to the common cold in which we dont have a cure or a vaccine for anyways 4 All confirmed cases CoV2 cases which lead to death are being classified as CoV2 deaths As stated in 1 above the cases that lead to death caused by the flu arent classified as flu deaths can there truly be a statistical comparison with the info with have Wouldnt it be a better comparison to trace every case of the flu and see which ones actually lead to death rather than going with the 01 Which is a scary number compared to the CoV2 death rate|0 Wide testing wont happen We will go the way of France and other western countries testing only severe hospitalized cases once community transmission is established So huge increase in numbers are unlikely People will rationalize the deaths very quickly They were sick and old How many time a day do you hear people say Its mostly dangerous to seniors and people wih other conditions like its no big deal |0 Hi thanks for the info I was vaccinated for this season in early October 2019 at my hospital My cough has been horrendous Its still bad all my other symptoms have gone Ive been cleared to go back to work with the requirement that I wear a mask at all times until my cough clears I am not complaining about this requirement in fact Im happy to have the excuse at this point in time lol They said they are okay with my cough because its expected for a few weeks following the strain I hadThe PA who saw me and diagnosed me told me that he actually had it too a few weeks ago and had a hacking cough for two weeks after Ive been taking tessalon perles TID which has been helping I am clearing some clear sputum when I do cough and its certainly not a completely dry cough but it is hacking and fierce when its there Im able to suppress it for the most part now and keep the coughs down until Im out of my patients rooms and in privateYou shouldve heard me in my car once I left work this morning lol I hacked violently for like 5 minutes because I had been holding in coughs all through report|1 I think this is what is happening in the minds of the top level decision makers in JapanIt is often difficult for humans to have 2 sharply different scenarios of the same timeline in their minds at the same time When you plan your life you generally imagine a timeline and not a branching tree of possibilities Having an especially strong scenario imprinted in your mind tends to exclude other scenariosJapan has been preparing for the Tokyo Summer Olympics for years now 2020 in Japan means Olympics This scenario is so strongly imprinted on the minds of decision makers that a sharply different alternate scenario is automatically rejected as not realistic Our brains process new input in terms of how much it conforms to our existing world view and if our existing world view of the future is already fixed then evidence to the contrary will tend to be rejectedThis is like when you fall in love with someone and all you can think of is this person It is hard to imagine how you can ever be with someone else Your mind starts filtering all incoming information through this particular worldview When a friend tells you that this person is not right for you for reasons X Y Z you cannot process what they are talking about and it sounds like nonsense I suspect this is what is happening to the Japanese decision makers with regard to the Olympics vs the CoronavirusI can somewhat sympathize with the Japanese decision makers If Im an upper echelon decision maker and read the newspapers I would probably shake my head at low brow entertainment that passes for news nowadays So much sensationalist reporting and clickbait headlines It feels like a juvenile prankster that is telling me that my pants are on fire just to see if Im going to take it off and embarrass myself in public I can picture the high school principal from Great Teacher Onizuka in this role|1 I have people in the family who didnt care at all and flew to Spain this weekend I have some friends who just wont stop travelling I tried telling them the seriousness in this but nobody cares so now i think i will just give up on the ignorant people|1 Reread my comment it isnt specific to COVID19 In general you shouldnt be going to conferences or work and vacation either for that matter when you are symptomatic with even just the flu You never know if one or many of the other people that you come into contact with may be immunocompromised and unable to take a flu shot may be allergic to it and unable to take it or took it and it was ineffective Same deal with antibiotics where just because you have started taking them there is no guarantee that they will actually be effective at reducing your risk of spreading what you have to other people because the strain of bacteria could be antibiotic resistant or the antibiotics could have prescribed to someone with a viral infection|0 Lol thats absolutely awesome|1 If someone is stupid enough to drink bleach we dont need them in the gene pool anyways|0 So what youre saying is that manufacturing of core supplies should be nationalised Agreed but look at the apathy or anger surrounding Bernies Healthcare for All|0 Reality hits you hard brohttpsyoutubeFCSBoOcGFFE|0 200 people isolated in Vegas too and only 7 individuals have been tested|0 Thank you anyway Social media and news are dumpster on fire in most of the cases They should at least now take a break from false news and click bite bs|0 Be strong for the people who need you to be strong A lot of people are going to die and we will all most likely lose people within our networks Try to accept that or at least understand it in a cold nonjudgmental rational way And then just do what you can for others call loved ones and just talk to them about whats going on but also talk about good memories and make loose plans for the future when this is all over Escape into entertainment like movies and booked and journaling when you can Somber is the right moodits a serious event what we are witnessing so dont try to downplay it Recognize the reality of it but let yourself enjoy small things without guilt Listen to some podcasts My friends recently got into Buddhist podcast to help deal with the anxiety of this all Not my cup of tea but you get the point Take care|1 it really is amazing when you see how we stack up to other countries it really lifts the viel|1 Yup its true but ideally the delay should be stretched out over time and managed rather than closing entire country down|1 but its not just the elderly 20 of infected require hospitalization what happens when the hospitals get overwhelmed well we are starting to see the beginning of this now|0 He is just stating what we all know Trumpers will believe Trump and take no precautions Darwin Award time Koolaid drinkers MAGA Dont you listen to FOX This is all a Democrat fake story|0 Sk dont fuk around mind that they r next to mad man who threat nuclear weapons all the times So they have to be prepared at all times|0 Maybe they should make a point of China always temporarily banning the wet markets where the trade of wild and exotic animals unleashes these pandemics on the world Did everyone forget that this is what is causing so much misery in the world right now Or does this sub just want people to forget|0 I dont know his history but I have been impressed with his openness and decisiveness We cant wait for the federal governments tests because its not gonna happen|1 I had similar news but I got the call on Thursday that is was to start on Monday I had three different people with different types of connection tell me that Usually they are calm and rational people and seeing them this worried really put me on edge I went I topped off my groceries Already had stocked up a month ago when I saw what happened in Wuhan but got some more fresh produce to cook with No panic be prepared however|0 You are using the term first world incorrectly and it is an outdated and offensive term at that Use developing instead and use it properly China is far from developing and in many measures of development they surpass the western world Which is what I think you meant to imply by first world|0 Because were better off attempting to contain it and slowing it down than simply call it an enhanced flu which has a kill rate of 13 I agree that the media should be covering recovery numbers|0 My old roommate came backfrom Vegas earlier this week after being there almost 2 weeks He went to hospital today with chills and body aches Thats all I know at this point One case has been reported in Vegas now But youre right the US government has so far done a horrible job keeping up with this|0 Fuck you|0 So Im traveling to Wuhan next week should I cancel|0 I do I went to the er 4 times in November the day before Thanksgiving they finally sent to by ambulance to another hospital 2 hrs away and Thanksgiving morning I was in surgery I have had 3 all together since then and was out of work for 3 months and 2 weeks because of my kidneys I have no benefits as I stated in my first comment I lost everything my home I came home from the hospital and had no electricity my car insurance lapsed it was all I could do to make sure I filled the medications I absolutely had to have and had no groceries The 2nd week in February was my first week back to work Ive worked at my job for 5 years I started out at minimum wage it took 2yrs to get my boss to give me a raise and that was 3 yrs ago while I was out during this process he gave me a 25cent raise So yes I have had medical issues I still have follow up appointments and medication I still have to take for a little while I have alot of pieces to put back together and here we are today dealing with this virus and my job is a front desk girl for a well known chain but privately owned I also have a daughter shes 26 so thankfully shes an adult With all that being said the point is this is where we are now and the next battle of many our country has had to fight and no one has any answers on how no one knows how many lives will be lost trying to figure it out either but we all know we are one country that never gives up we dont back down and when pushed we come together for a common cause and our cause is life itself This is our war this time this virus thats our enemy Edit One side note in response to that comment not that it matters but Im still trying to catch up on everything that fell behind and its very hard to catch up and stay above water It was generosity of people Ive met thru my job that are repeat guests that paid for my necessities during all this because of the bonds Ive made with them and this isnt ego talking but Ive made those bonds because Im damn good at my job and thats why thats how and the only way Ive been able to get thru any of this to the point Im at now and Ive got a long ways to go but at one point I had no idea what I was going to do and all I can say is how grateful I am for those that did what part they could and I will day by day figure out how to keep putting it all back together Slowly but surely I have to So now we have this to deal with and we have no choice because its spreading and so far no one has answers but we wont give up right Thats the point uasdaaaaaaa I think your point was valid Some people seem to go thru life in a similar fashion and chose similar ways of thinking then others I believe is what it comes down too |0 This is the truly scary part once the health system is overwhelmed things that would normally be survivable with a hospital visit become fatal|0 Christ that is a proper ghost town Would be nice to see a comparison from a few months ago|1 Be safe|1 What are people who live paycheck to paycheck supposed to do Washing your hands before going sanitizing in the car before going in if youre able and sanitizing when you get your cart are the only things they can do A lot of people in this county will have no choice but to shop on Friday if a quarantine is implanted They shouldnt be shat on for it|0 That tracker shows 1 confirmed in Texas The CDC site says No for TexasThis level of incompetence makes me want to say No to Taxes that go to this bosss paychecks|0 Clearly this whole in 2 weeks it all goes back to normal is all BS|1 Its absolutely terrible and I think even speaks to things that have been going on for years Its common knowledge you can steal from the store I work for which of course just lets the absolute worst people in the area flock to us to rip us off as constantly as possibleBut corporate has no interest in actually trying to stop it My state doesnt seem to have any interest in stopping it Its like the safety of people actually in the grocery stores doesnt actually matter oh but theyre essential employees Thats horrible and I hope you and your daughter are safe and all her friends|1 1 month quarantine would be a startEither we shit down for a short period of time and recovery quickly or we keep burying our head in the sand and soldier on and business will die a death by 1000 cuts by the end of the year|0 Im also a recovering alcoholic 3 years sober And where you take happiness to mean fleeting temporary pleasures and highs thats not how I interpret that term For me happiness refers not fleeting temporary pleasure but more a lasting wellbeing and flourishing I act in ways that are likely to give me the most joy spread out over the period of a lifetime This means that if temporary pleasure will cause me lasting pain or will harm anyone else I avoid it Im also willing to take on temporary struggle drudgery and even pain if doing so has long term benefits for myself and my family So no hedonism for me Im a nihilist simply because I just cant believe in the traditional view of life has an objective meaning and purpose The evidence that Ive seen from science philosophy and other fields just wont allow me to believe in it and Im just not about to take Kierkegaards leap of faith It sounds like you have taken this leap and it sounds like thats a good thing for you If your belief system helps you then its a good thing for you If at all possible just give me the same consideration People can arrive at nihilism in so many different ways For many it is a chaotic damaging outlook on life a response to pain that one eventually grows out of For others who have accepted it from years of philosophical and scientific study its a more measured worldview that is tempered with hope and a great respect for the power of reason and the joy of existence Im in that second group Anyway thanks so much for the kind words They mean a lot to me even as a nihilist I can have subjective meaning |1 How do you feel now any better Im starting to get a sore throat here in canada|1 Because Americans cant trust people in positions of authority and you really cant blame them Political parties often operate like a mother that keeps bringing home abusive boyfriends so the kid thinks wow all men are abusive and then idolize their mother despite her being the one bringing them home Authority is the way the majority of Americans handle their fears about the world Were shit at handling fear by ourselves because we live in an individualistic society where were told that one or two bad decisions is all it takes to end up fucked with no way out Thats too much responsibility and stress So if your doctor or whoever says its just the flu you cling to that because it alleviates the fear without causing the stress that an individual decision wouldBlame the authorities and a society that makes fear difficult to cope with appropriately that means not being paranoid too|0 Criticism for these idiots has nothing to do woth their sexuality it has to dinwith them being idiots meeting in a large gathering where there are people who probably went through the same airpot check screenings as infected individuals|0 Man its scary because I live in Washington before this was just something I was watching from afar|0 Nono hot water isnt enough on its own You also need Peaceful Palace Bovine Pillshttparchivelia1L4K|1 wrong httpswwwidsocietyorgglobalassetslancetjan242020today1st42patientsncovpdfhttpswwwidsocietyorgglobalassetslancetjan242020today1st42patientsncovpdf|0 More than shit living conditions Chinas air or polluted smog is a huge issue at play here too Pneumonia targets the lungs and breathing If your lungs are so bad from the polluting that you might as well consider yourself a regular smoker before even having a single cigarette Yeah its not gonna look good at all Couple that with being in the epicenter panic and stress and literally all the other shit Chinese citizens have to deal with on a daily basis Yeah its not gonna look good at all Couple that with the fact that iirc smoking is quite popular in China more so than in the Americas but thats anecdotal from hearsay and not as shunned Yeah its not gonna look good at allI think the coronavirus is something we should be VERY careful about as we should about any new highly infectious virus but I also think its hitting China extra hard because of how their country is and has been for generations|0 For more information about n95 respirator and general preparedness you can head out to our Wiki pagehttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19wikiindexpreparednessIf you are unable to find what you need in our Wiki resubmit your question in the Daily General PosthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseuqgqedailygeneralpost2jan272020questionsimagesI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 If we finally have the coronavirus outbreak here CDC should be responsible for that|1 Masks are a TERRIBLE idea if you have a nationwide shortage and the healthcare providers who need them cant get them STOP BUYING MASKS If you have masks consider donating them to your local hospital Seriously stop itDo you want all your healthcare providers getting sick and spreading it to other patients Do you want to exacerbate existing shortages by making your healthcare workers sick and unable to work STOP BUYING MASKS|0 Yet putting her on blast here helps Put down the iPhone and go watch your sisters kids ffs|0 Its actually really scary you were able to guess right|0 In a single thought you rant about how bad government is but also advocate for giving them the power to sieze private property at will and without due process The mental gymnastics are outstanding|1 They had to lock up 750 million people under threat of getting shot and completely shut down one of the largest economies in the World in order to get it down to only 4000 deaths IF you believe the numbers coming from the Chinese Communist Party4000 deaths for 100k cases is about 100x higher fatality rate than the flu If youre not getting paid to post these misleading comparisons you certainly should be|0 Here is some recent news coverage of the 2020 Cheltenham Festival proceeding in spite of COVID19 concernshttpswwwtheguardiancomsportgallery2020mar13cheltenhamfestival2020inpictures Triumphs tumbles and hand sanitiser Cheltenham Festival 2020 in pictures The finish of the days first race the Triumph Hurdle in front of the packed stands The race was won by Paul Townend on Burning Victory after the leader Goshen who was in command nearly 10 lengths up when he made a mistake and unseated his rider Jamie Moore httpsiimgurcomcrKtZqipnghttpstalksportcomsportracing682158cheltenhamfestivalcoronavirusgoldcup Cheltenham course chief explains why the Festival wont be cancelled for coronavirus and says Gold Cup WILL go ahead Racecourse manager Ian Renton and has told talkSPORT the Festival has worked closely with the UK government in its decision to remain open Festival organisers have come under fire for not cancelling this weeks event despite some of the worlds biggest sporting occasions shutting down over the COVID19 outbreak Around 60000 racegoers flocked to the Gloucestershire course on Thursday alone On Friday Gold Cup day it expected that number will reach over 70000 with more than 250000 punters estimated to have visited over the four days of the Festival And photos of the Festival have gone viral on social media which have shown just how many people and how tightly packed together they are in the enclosures stands and bars|1 Nothing like a global health emergency to the eyes of the world away from political upheaval in Hong Kong and cultural eradication in Xinjiang Just Sayn|0 Scomo is really a bit of a twat the way we have desks set up at school where quiet literally shoulder to shoulder If we where to stay 15 metres away from each other we wouldnt fit the classrooms courtyards and gymnasium its bullshit what he is saying|0 2008 was also handled very poorly by the govt Sounds like people have forgotten that They basically sat on their asses watching the economy burn before bailing out the banks at the very last moment|1 Thank you It looks like there is some potential benefit while being mindful of zinc toxicity I would think that supplemental copper could be added to offset short term high dose zinc Even if you could get a 50 inhibitory effect with a lower dose it seems like your immune system would have a better chance of fighting it off vs if the virus was allowed to replicate unimpeded It would be interesting to see this used in human trials EDIT I also wonder if zinc lozenges since they would have direct contact with the virus in the mucus membranes would potentially decrease the dose needed for effectiveness|1 Hahaha yes snipers killing journalists and children how just|1 Correct This Chinese study seems to confirm as much As of March 4 a total of 120 patients with neocoronary pneumonia were treated with chloroquine phosphate of which 9 were mild 107 were general and 4 were severe After taking the drug 110 patients with negative pharyngeal swab nucleic acid test were negative of which 9 were light accounting for 100 99 97 were normal accounting for 9065 97107 4 were severe accounting for 9 Ratio 100 44 average overcast after 44 daysCompared to patients receiving other medications chloroquine phosphatetreated patients have the shortest time to overcast Jiang Shanping said that none of the 120 patients treated with chloroquine phosphate developed critical illness and 81 patients have been discharged so far |0 Pff I am not sure there is any There are many strains of norovirus and they mutate around the domain that binds the blood group antigens What I do recall is that along with the sugar ring that determines ABO it also binds the fucose moiety that is transferred by the fucosyl transferase 2 FUT2 and that is essential for infection Around 20 of Europeans have a nonfunctional FUT2 which determines the nonsecretor status and they are resistant to most strains of norovirusIve done an internship in Heidelberg in a Norovirus lab where they did binding assays for different blood types I provided cells for my blood type A but the readout was lower than the negative control and thats how I found out I had a nonsecretor status 2 years later I got 23andme and I saw the polymorphism in my data as well I think the rest all had a readout indicating binding of the viruslike particlesAfter leaving the comment I found a paper on SARS from 2008 specifying that nonsecretors essentially behave like O blood type httpsacademicoupcomglycobarticle18121085198877381860167httpsacademicoupcomglycobarticle18121085198877381860167 Of note the expression of ABH antigens in epithelial cells where SARSCoV replicates is also controlled by polymorphisms of the FUT2 gene Thus individuals with two FUT2 null alleles the socalled nonsecretors are unable to synthesize H antigen and hence A or B antigens in these cells Marionneau et al 2001 For simplicity the model did not consider such individuals since with regard to the virus transmission they would behave as O blood group donors Including them in the analysis is therefore similar to slightly increase the pool of O individuals|0 People dont understand what the Novel in front of Sars Carona2 Covid19 virus meansIts means its the virus debutante ball and no one knows jack shit about it because it is so new|0 The odds of Bernie and Biden catching andor dying from this is actually scarily high Can you run for president and quit shaking hands|0 And Im right next door in Tokyo Basically the further away from Asia you all are the better I honestly dont know why Americans are reacting to strongly to this right now Its not like your next door neighbor is China You guys live on the other side of town |1 The trick now is to pace it correctly so that hospital beds never fill up while at the same time not tanking the economy so that people die from that instead Youre essentially making the argument that if we err too hard on one side well stop 50 million otherwise preventable deaths which is just preposterous|0 Ye thats another thing no one wants the inconvenience no one wants to believe they might have to miss the club or footy at the weekend|0 We thought Italy was secure because implemented more strict controls but finnaly all went downhill I was not bashing Italy just saying no matter what can happen anywhere|0 I can assure you that Wuhan is not a shithole and there are many lovely people there who do not deserve this outbreak Have a heart|1 But here is the thing It is not happening in other countries Trust me I live in other countries|1 Well this looks bad I hope she turns out okay|1 Ty for correcting me I shouldnt skim so much|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Wow Centenarians have super crazy immune systems especially women|1 Because March break trips from all over the north east departed on Friday evening Why scare more folks off when you have beaches and plague for everyone|0 Its the way this virus acts because of the incubation period People are still coming down with it even after the quarantine So we will see a drop probably in a few weeks when people from right now are recovering|0 Chinese particle physics makes great leap forward while coughing for breath|1 My girlfriend was smart and decided to order a bunch of bagels about 2 weeks ago so now weve got a freezer full of bagel and chicken|1 Yeah for the most part it does If youre healthy and you get it youll likely continue being healthy If you arent healthy or youre old and you get it theres a chance you could have some small issues|1 The problem with importing them from other countries is that other countries need them too|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I live somewhere that does not have farmers markets so I did not think of those You are supposed to wash your fruit and veg anyway so I am not deterred I have mostly been buying fresh produce If I am going to be stuck at home might as well cook healthy food|1 i am 100 sure he is just incompetent lol|1 Yea too bad the bill only affects 20 of workers|0 I am also really getting to a point where I think we should take it into our own hands Whilst I am generally a bit of a rebel I am also a patriot and try to understand the position of everyone However our vulnerable community are being left exposed Our old and sick are not just people who have no use to society They are our families and people that have done their time to deserve our caring As will we one day Dont wait for any approval anymore PHE need to wait for the WHO They are not their own minds They are not working in the interest of the public or their health In fact after this we should disband themThey have proved toothless and weak in the face of danger They have embarrassed us as a nation and let us down as a people Some sheets to wash your hands and cough in your sleeve Printed and sent to councils to send to their data bases I could have done that on my own in two hours Tops With cigarette breaks|0 Thank you Im glad things in China seem to have taken a turn for the better now|1 Thats a huge positive Life is so precious it doesnt hurt to be reminded of that every now thenUnderstandably people are anxious but still managing to be rude to each other online and score petty political points surely this puts things in perspectiveImagine if the death rate was 50 and didnt discriminate on age|0 a generation that never really lived through troubling timesWait what You cannot be serious Might want to look up some of the history of the mid 20th century|0 A lot of medical staff are going to have PTSD after this Be kind people|1 People can be A symptomatic Which means showing no symptoms But still spread the virus So many people could think they just have or had the cold But really it was the virus Those numbers wouldnt show Also just common cold or flu like symptom patients wouldnt show either They are only testing people in Canada pretty recently Not when the virus actually started And they only test people who openly say they think they have come in contact with it or if they are having fever or respiratory symptoms Or if you traveled to one of the countries listed Thousands of people travel directly from that part of China to Canada Since before the virus was officially announced So yeah Statistically There is no way its only 16|1 If only it wasnt a racist apartheid state |1 im singaporean and singapore are one of the countries that had the most confirmed cases but thats also due to us being aggressive with testing contact tracing and honest with our numbers we had a spike in cases early on but the numbers have somewhat plateaued in the past few days as long as italy are taking good measures to slow and contain which most other countries aint im sure the outcome will be alright|1 And also N95 filters have an electrostatically charged layer which is really how they filter block virus sized particles rather than filter diameter|0 Our country is doomed|0 Dude probably gets smegma even with a foreskinless dry mushroom dick|0 Safe and everything getting better every day My apartment building has three infected neighbour and they all recure yesterdaywhich our community has about 20 and now has 4 still in hospital thanks god no one of them die but the one who was recure need quarantine other two weeks before go home We still not allow go outand now i am working at home We feel safe now but there is new 20 to 7 infector the while city everyday which the nearest one is in a hotel near my communityWuhan has enough food but hubei province same place food was too expensive one city tonight has a very very little remonstrate for the expensive food In fact i had spend 2000 dollars for me my wife and my parents for food last one and a half monthOne month ago i fear and worry about will lost my parents if they get infect which means i may have no chance to see them last time if they too ill and has gone Its too cruel for me I am not afraid of myself if i will die but i love my parents so muchso i hate the virusits such a cruel monsterAll i want say is pls pls listen to our doctors advice they have many many experience about the virussuch as blood oxygen normal do not means the patients safe sometimes and some body position in hospital bed will help cure people etcpls listen thems experience because we spend too much pain and lifes to know itAnd best wishes to the Italian I am a inter Milan fan when i was 10i love R9 and Moratti since 1997 So sorry we all face the same virus|0 Probably better for everyone if we let this slidegotta respectfully disagree My theory is that it was made here in North America and sold to or stolen by China Neither side wants to admit that we are playing god with bugs that we dont fully grasp and obviously cant handle People would want retribution regulations and full dick stop to this kind of crap Military retaliation Perhaps some would call for it but Im not sure I think that if this doesnt kill us at this poitn I dont think its extinction level by a long shot who knows how the next one will be All just speculation at this point but someone should answer for this and we should know how this happened whoever is at fault|0 What is the best method of economic preparation How do we remain financially secure during this time of uncertainty as a lower income household|1 What Im saying is First off we cant trust China to accurately report their numbers Historically we just cant 100 accept their numbers as fact People are saying the CFR is around 2 which is bad alone If as many people got Wuhan Coronavirus as get the flu every year the United States would lose 1000000 people 565 dead 1382 recovered So of people that have left the hospital in some fashion 29 have died Theres also been stories of patients being turned away so we dont know how many are dead at home We likely wont know details until after the outbreak or if the outbreak hits the US mainland full force I agree theres likely a lot of overreacting but when theres a novel virus people naturally fear what they dont know To play this off as under control is wrong at this point|0 Aptronym win|1 I agree that its not a good solution But its clearly the CDCs plan not TrumpsTrumps goto was to just close the border and keep all the sick people away from the US Not very elegant but very different from what he is saying now|0 Thanks for the words I really needed it THB Im scared to death with this thing and Im doing all my best to protect myself I hope itll be tamed and at bay eventually|1 I think people just assume we know more than we do As a wise man once said we wont know if we over prepared but we will definitely know if we underprepared|1 Hahha they draw some lines based on their assumptions and Hopes and this supposed to be justifying it That schematic even includes measures we didnt take as at the moment we are on the do nothing line not taking any actions because that what is is read posts below Even sick medical staff is not allowed to self isolate People will not self isolate Some will but majority wont Because they wont belive it applies to them They only have sniffles its not coronavirus FML|0 I am so sorry and I understand over 4 people in my family suffer from immune disorders varying from Lupus to MS and so many people laugh and act like I am crazy for wearing mask during flu season during this or any time I go to the hospital So many people dont consider that the strangers around them have lives and families with issues you will never know|0 Oh god I had the same thing bronchitis caught from RSV I could barely breathe it was awful|0 The mods only got control of it yesterday or the day before Theyre still trying to clean that cesspool up by the looks of it but this one is going to shit while theyre there|0 Yep just got one myself Especially good if youre getting anxiety over this whole deal and get tightness in your chest as a result|1 Yes but a few hundred deaths spread out over the entire country does not look like a lot ar first You cant die or COVID19 officially unless you test positive Almost no one is being tested even when their attending physician goes to hell and back over the phone to order a test A patient dies of acute respiratory illness you dont know what it is Especially since most ICUs are at near full capacity already with patients in this demographic The most vulnerable are people who are already in and our of the hospital or susceptible to community acquired bacterial pneumonia and influenza|0 Im not happy as a plumber but F|0 Thank god I was literally shaking this morning thinking about the possibility they wouldnt allow testing to pump the stocks|1 Same here the other sources are pretty untrustworthy looking|1 The first case of Coronavirus in my city was found in a cancer doctor at the hospital only after she had already seen a handful of patients and staff that day Im not sure about a follow up if whether anybody has gotten it from her though|0 If this is the case then this really makes the potential for exponential transmission scary especially in countries where testing isnt readily accessible I wonder what the factors are for not contracting symptoms ie strain vs host characteristics|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I dont know about other workers but yes Ive been staying home as much as possible outside of shifts Lots of people arent even coming into work and because of this Amazon frequently offers overtime but not a lot of people want to take it|1 Yeah try calling out of work lol I was sick bronchitis but still almost same symptoms except the fever and they literally wouldnt let me call out I work security in a pharmacy You know how many people to come in contact with that is I literally had to LIE and tell them customers were complaining Which technically they were but it was about the companys irresponsibility of making me work not actually about ME but even the night manager said shed cover for me if they asked and she did I got my 2 days off to feel better and let the antibiotics do their job two days|1 Professional Journalist Mr Premier do you think this pandemic will get worse|0 Actually they just give up for old patients as they have to save who are more likely to be saved|1 This shit doesnt mean anything and its crazy that it controls our lives|0 Thanks|1 I mean it still is If someone questions the integrity of desktop software saying that its not bad and you should be worried about your phone while true doesnt give them relevant advice to the problem asked about True on both counts The issue with most updates to phones is as you mentioned the fragmentation of OEMs and hardware implementations Google cant put out consistent updates because thats not how computers work at a fundamental level due to the variety of hardware unless everything runs in a virtual environment on your phone a la windows lol then itll most likely stay that way This is why I have an Apple phone because I know itll get updates and I like the encryption model a little better but thats just a me thing Consistent patching is always key and is the easiest way to ensure you are safe from anything also true But goes back to what I stated above at least with mobile Enterprise is a whole other thingRouters dont really get remote malware usually do the lack of attack surface on external interfaces There was also VPNFilter nonpersistent no write to disk and the recent Cisco shenanigans but most of what you see is internal pivoting which is not super common but even then mostly banks on the username and password being default Hackers are lazyAdding on to this in a ninja edit none of what I say excuses the shitty OEM response to researchers with routing software Huge issue is that theyll only apply a patch to one device and not others that are basically identical Literally the dumbest shit|0 Have you not noticed there is zero leadership at the federal level Its just Trump saying a bunch of random shit hoping something sticks|0 Well Canada just got the first Iran travel person|1 Truth|1 Not just that but hospitals actively discourage you from going to the hospital unless its a real emergency|0 Im in Portugal atm and im super worry about all thisHope everyone stay safe and i wish you all the best|1 Im not an authority on anything but I cant help but want to think thats an oversimplification I think it contributes but for instance say we somehow rid the world of corporatecommercial even individual greed Would our work really be done w just that|0 this is bad news if they dont show symptoms it can go undetected for a long time 514 days They spread it and its likely they will have long term illnesses|0 my uneducated opinion says no unless they had a vaccine ready suspiciously immediately to make a profit |1 Well in the netherlands the included this in their worse case scenario plan The want to include the healthworkers from the army and approach healtworkers employed by private clinics to help out They also included the use of army base as well as army tents on location with possibility for oxygen machine|1 So now youre debating over the effectiveness of the travel bansThats funny would you like the list of leftist sources mocking him for being racist and the very idea of taking such unAmerican measures Its quite longTrump never called coronavirus a hoaxHe called the Democrat cudgel a hoax which it was like every single other thing theyve slammed him with on a daily and weekly basisYoure just slurping down heaps of propaganda juice|0 Half my classes were half empty all the younger ones yesterday Its a complete joke that were being asked to come in and interact with hundreds of kids a day Were all terrified and on the verge of just refusing to come in at this point|0 Which area of your dead brain did you use to think that i was serious|0 Yes so very happy that they all went out to celebrate A nice buffet dinner|1 What is the evidence for the bioweapon charge The rate at which highranking officials are getting impacted does make me think its being used as a political weapon|0 Thats crazy|0 Theyre your cousins were your siblings But seriously Canadians can give it to us and I have a feeling a whole lot more of them come here to visit than we go there|0 I think this is the real plan I dont think theres time to go any way down this road and then switch to something else I cant see how we dont end up with several million dead I keep having to remind myself that of course most of us will get through this Im terrified of dying without health care though Its grim when youre hoping they have ways planned for euthenizing people with no chance of survival|0 This is one of the biggest moves in help of the prevention of coronavirus InformationOh so powerful and cant even imagine where we could be without it rn|1 Scientists around the globe were estimating we were due for a pandemic due to the conditions in China and the use of wildlife for food and trade Typically this is how diseases make the jump between species when they are consumed or fluids are mixed Basically it was bound to happen unless something changed and a fundamental demographic of Chinese depended on this to survive so fat chance anything changing without the extremest of circumstance ie Corvid17|1 Honestly who knows Ive not heard much else about Florida besides Miami Most likely takeout will be the only thing soon enough The measures implemented are just not going to be effective is my guess There are already cases everywhere and thats only those they know of I really dont recommend traveling in general The religious idiots still intend on going to church that will be helpful to quell the spread obviously|1 Just wait for spring break just because Ultra music festival was canceled doesnt mean those people are canceling their trips Florida is likely going to have a giant influx soon|1 i saw the one where the 5g radio waves could independently shut down each organ individually like holy fuck people are insane|0 Do you believe that money is gone Has it been approved by Congress What is the breakdown of where that money was actually going Do you know the answers to any of these questions or is it just ORANGE MAN BAD|0 Youre totally missing the point I think our friend here has more to worry about than karma whoring I mean if you want to sit there and get all your news from mass media then go ahead Id rather read and listen to real people The votes are merely asking are you genuinely interested in listening to what a student from Macau has to say about the situation If yes then upvote if not then jog along|1 Noones going to die because i bought 15 painters masks FFP2 same standard as N95 at the beginning of february mate|0 Check her twitter account history shes been very very alarmed from the start|0 Yeah Im in the same boat store is closed so no one will answer the phone I also think my managers are in the same situation as me so its not really their fault Upper managementexecs are responsible in my case|1 Exactly roughly 10 of Chinas medical resources thats resources for about 100 million people were ultimately poured into Hubei the province that Wuhan is in which has 60 million people the same number that Italy has Unfortunately Italy doesnt have the spare capacity to scale up its response to this level|0 I understood what was being said completely But thank you|1 The UK will start testing 10000 a day same as South Korea and the best in the western world Hopefully more action is taken I would really like to see us being the best to handle this in the western world How cool would it be to see other countries say look how well the UK handled this|1 The virus spread due to the Chinese govt suppressing information and letting it get out If they didnt arrest doctors the first few weeks none of this shit would have happened|0 thanks Taking into account that ratio albeit a small sample would indicate that the numbers are not significant enough to make a difference in the infected cases tally Still they should have been rcounted regardless of the treatment plan they would be administered|0 Thank you for sharing I am from China I am sad that what happened in my country is still repeated in other countries If it werent for me knowing this happened in Italy I thought I was reading the doctors records in Wuhan I hope the world can survive this disaster|0 How did you think all the cities it shows on maps of Greenland were ghost towns|0 I recognize him from a documentary about the Long Island serial killer Hes a great sheriff very cooperative|0 Not sure what other class I could use My doctor told me once that ACE and ARB were my only options This came up after I got the dreaded Lisinopril cough and I was switched to Losartan I cannot remember why though maybe a contraindication with another med that Im on idkThanks Ill look into things more thoroughly tomorrow|0 When the current response to the outbreak is Lets just wait and let the disease spread get out of control before acting I dont think gender analysis is the most immediate improvementIts like if I was sitting in my couch too lazy to reach for my TV remote and asking how could gender analysis help me get the remote At best it would explain some correlation between my gender and lazinessConsidering the low risk of infection in these countries these xenophobic responses pose the most pressing public health threat Yeah better instead to hug Chinese people like in Italy I heard the reduced stigma there is definitely helping out their situation lately|1 How many are already dead and will never be tested|0 Hubeis death rate seemed to be far more impacted by the fact that they missed the majority of mild cases whereas in other provinces they managed to test everybody through contact tracing|0 I saw a post by someone I grew up with that had a bunch of bad epidemic statistics to make a case that George Soros created this as a false emergency to take over the global economy I immediately saw the H1N1 mortality rate of 17 and knew it was bullshit I added the disclaimer in case someone stumbles across my screenshot of what he postedhttpsimgurcomaYEsFWhYhttpsimgurcomaYEsFWhY|0 You dont develop much of an immunity You can get it right after you get over itThats unknown at this point so stop spreading it as a fact|0 Countries are made up of the people who live in them after allx200BAnd the Chinese are just basically living in an extension of the imperialistwarlord system they enjoyed for generations before Mao anyway Just has a modern coat of paint on it|1 You kidding They would 100 tell the world And the Church would 100 ask for the prayers of the faithful|1 The sub swappening actually went much smoother than I anticipated Pretty impressive they pulled it off within mere days|1 Theyll find other suppliers but the prices will definitely go up|1 The difference is that shopping for a guitar or going to the gym are both not absolutely necessary But if I need to fix a broken pipe or repair a roof leak I really need the hardware store to be open Thanks|0 Please bill gates save us from your Frankenstein disease Just dont make all the woman who take your mystery vaccine infertile like you did in AfricaDont worry folks bill has all sorts of medical shit to sell big government during this time of need|1 I actually have to agree with you But even with a government order the road in front of my house Houston USA still took those workers 2 months to fix on an average of maybe 2 at most effective working hours every day|1 Spanish flu|0 Pls say hand sanitizer instead of some brand name I had to google|1 Thanks|1 Actually the fall in China is good news because it means that we can stop it too|1 Just keep the kids home now Why wait We are almost at 3 confirmed cases in Ottawa which is when we are thinking to pull them out of school It sounds like we might already be there now that theres a 3rd undergoing tests whose entire workplace were sent home|1 Chris has come across well when Ive seen him That press conference was actually quite reassuring as it seems him and the chief science officer are the ones who are leading this countries fight|1 Fever caused by coronavirus tend to be low|0 I will try I actually did line up for free testing and they were literally turning people with fever down I worry for the elderly and sick Actually my gf who has insurance got tested and we are awaiting results hopefully tomorrow After that if positive hopefully options open up if negative Ill go in|0 Canadian student here I wish our universities would take this more seriously My school is still open as normal and there has been no measures taken to close lectures Had to go to a formarks class just now|0 Not berated Youre simply implying that Im not allowed to look up to those more fortunate than me and ask for help because Ive never been able to help those who are below meAnd yeah your behaviour seems to be against asking those who want the rich to chip inNot saying your rich but Im saying youve obviously got enough money to not see it from the perspective of those that still have to live pay day to pay day|1 Fuck|0 Hes not actually a doctor Hes a nurse and has a PhD in teaching nursing Basically hes a professor in nursing school So hes really good at explaining stuff to laymen|1 This makes me ashamed to be an Oregonian and American if we allow nameless overpaid low value add administrators to take a dump on the health of their 1 resources the staff that actually does value added work and helps the veterans petition to cut administrators pay 90 for this act of insane stupidity those administrators are either totally out of touch or they must have the IQ of an egg|0 90 of people dont travel for selfiesPeople fuck up in the practicalities if this First how long 6 months a yearAlso what about freight Are we to shut that down too Okay so that means no new cars for a whole year No new computers No replacement parts for farms A lot of missing fertilizers and chemicals I could go on with the practical insanity of it oh well just figure it out Why dont you figure it out rather than being an armchair captain hindsight|0 Thanks Good luck to you too|1 The TDS is strong with this one|1 Shout out to you and all those working stocking the Trader Joes by my house I thought about you guys after I left the chaos of it all the other day People pop in and out and you guys have to do 12 hours in that atmosphere|0 I can debunk the mainly affecting Asians part easily Just look at Iran and Italy how quickly those locations turned into a shit show once Covid19 took hold|0 We did it Patrick We saved the city|1 No just that Mr Slave doesnt have a degree in epidemiology|0 Yes You dont just instantly get it dude youre a fucking idiot Or else 100 of Wuhan would have it which is not the case You think every single health care worker now has it Cmon lmfao|1 Yes But the older generation have seen a lot more So they tend to take this kind of stuff more seriously|1 somehow you managed to get it exactly the wrong way around|0 This one I was told it was New Jersey httpswwwinstagramcompB9Tpc0rnZLsigshid155kbrnappjlIm ashamed to admit it makes me laugh every time|1 I have a friend from Chengdu and hes been doing loss forecast since the government announced a extension of holiday The loss is real and huge|1 It was a prepper post that I used in January to go shopping and prepare I was grateful for the list|1 Italian here but living in Germany since 10 years my parents live in northern Italy I hope Germany will learn from good and bad thing Italy did in the last 3 weeksfor example take a decision of closing schools and so on not to late and something like this I live in Niedersachsen and a decision shall be taken today|1 Did you get tested for the mask I ask because there is a rigorous testing process to find the proper size N95 mask and if you havent been fitted properly for it then its not going to help you much|0 I just wish wed ordered more PPE|1 And when no one does health care workers die first|0 If it starts spreading like crazy below the Equator then ill be worried about the longevity into the summer I predict it will go away during the summer then back again in the fallwinter|0 Exactly Lets say Biden andor Sanders kick the bucket Their pledged delegates are not obligated to vote for Tulsi who cant take a hint and should have dropped out long ago They can vote for who they want|1 What is it like then What can I compare it too|1 What to you think about the response of some countries like Brazil who stopped testing mild cases even with just a small number of cases in comparison with other countries like Italy and Spain|1 I read this the first time as the predictive ignorance of testing Still laughing|1 Then you consider the alternative open borders free for all on our hospitals and you realize this is the best we can do for now|1 This made me lol|1 In the latest poll American overwhelmingly say no shit|0 it is getting impossibly difficult for the shill debunkers to sit there and debunk the evidence Reminds of Baghdad Bob like propaganda No nooo I see no American tanks in my city there are no tanks here|0 They were sending push notifications and advertising it on the old site after it was clear the sub was a mess Ridiculous|0 There has been multiple official sources so called presumptive cases have been cases that tested positive at the local or state level but no the federal this has been said multiple times in articles and press conferences|0 i would eat ativan till there were none left on that ship and write my first blockbuster horror novel|1 Alot of people on this forum worship him Someone tried to say that the speech he gave at Ted Talks really meant that he wanted to make life better for people in 3rd world countries so they wont have as many kids While it is true that when people get out of poverty they tend to have less kids I dont believe thats what he was saying|1 Yeah thats it defining time periods definitely aint my strong suit|1 Got my shit 2 weeks ago|0 When Disneyland closed I knew it wasnt routine doomsday news Their actuaries truly bright quatitative analysts coldly did a costbenefit calculation And their calculations said close for minimum of 14 days when they KNEW there would be school closures and lots of bored kids That is a serious threat|1 Theyre essentially optional schools 100 of students going to class is different than 30 of students going This helps significantly with flattening the curve of the virus|1 I got mine fuck you|0 Denmark as well|1 Which will definitely lower the infection numbers which is what they still want But they cant lower the fatality numbers like that|1 Dont forget about medical lab technicians and scientist that are directly exposed to respiratory specimens day in and day out|1 Omg this is so true|1 Yakima hereEveryone tells me Im gullible etc They say lol its nothing I seriously think people are conditioned not to care about this until an authority says to panic and all the mixed messages coming at us right now are creating an illusion in peoples mind that this may just be a cough and bad nights sleep for a few days Its death for a millions of vulnerable people and its here|0 Thanks|1 forgive me i was out of tp for three days|1 Wow lots of my aunts and uncles are educated as doctors from Germany Im under impression that its still top notch healthcare system there Any readings that explain why it became like what you just said|1 Ill take a Understatements of this century for 1000 Alex|0 If they truly cared it would be Using the plane for US citizens as an example its like a guy in a dimly lit alleyway telling you I could help youfor a price|1 If there is no vaccine within the next few years theres a good chance everyone will get COVID19 eventually as immunity for the other coronaviruses usually only lasts a few years|1 All the best fingers crossed for you|1 She was the taxi drivers mother in law This virus is perhaps the most efficient and innocent way to deal with your motherinlaw|1 Surgical masks are not effective Respirator masks are though Learn the difference|0 Plus the upper class will continue to do so they please regardless Really this is a unenforceable control method|1 Isnt it becoming clear that there are millions of undiagnosed cases We have more and more examples of asymptomatic people testing positive|1 itd seem Boris is more concerned about not letting the markets crash again Im more concerned about the economy crashing Your aware that the UK imports half of our food right Something needs to pay for thatIf they followed the advice of the latter theyd be following the leads of Denmark Poland etcThe problem with that is that those people only see this from one perspective This isnt just a public health problem its an economic problem as well Our trade deficit is paid for by a huge financial account surplus If we dont sell services including financial services abroad we wont have the money to pay for imports Like foodThis is a highly infectious disease the estimated Rnaught is somewhere between 4 and 6 There is no way to stop it spreading through the population Its going to suck but all we the population can do is keep calm carry on and wash our hands The government can work to delay the spread so that the peak of infections doesnt exceed the NHSs maximum capacity and it can work to raise the NHSs maximum capacity But other than that we basically have to just ride it out|0 True Thank you|1 But thats just it there is no uniform lockdown It seems to mostly be a patchwork of local wannabe Commisars not doing a very good job assuming and exercising authorityhttpsmediatenorcomimages4fb421df13efa5edd0a07245f9545e3ctenorgif|0 You cant have schools open without a functioning society and healthcare systemThe first countries to lock down didnt do it out of an abundance of caution They did it as a reaction to the nightmare which manifestedSome countries were smart and understood why other countries ended up locking things down To give healthcare a chance to work And they find themselves there indefinitely until it has We will not avoid this scenario either Were just choosing to do it later and make it more of a nightmare in the meantime Do you actually believe that if we dont close the schools now that we wont have to later And do you think that when we do itll be for a couple of weeksDo you read what is going on out thereWe cant just keep calm and carry on Its literally not an option You slow the spread either as a preventative measure or a reactionary one and then you deal with it for however long that takes That is what you do You cannot pretend its not happening when it is Surgeons and doctors and nurses describe it like a war One they were totally unprepared forBut no We took it one step further For we are taking no preventive measures and actively debating if closing schools is a good idea or not as if its some sort of choiceWe have heard very real and very literal warnings for months and this evening on the tele I see three people in a small room packaging up the first batch of test kits who will be going out to the GPs and front line workers as priority Three people just boxing shit up and adding labels in some dusty office When would you like to close the schools for weeks on end Now or before people start collapsing in the street This is all without even touching on the subject that kids appear to have the best immunity and act as perfect spreaders If you asked me the best way to spread a virus Id say schools 38 years I managed to avoid chicken pox My son was 2 when I caught it from him as an adult Schools are great for that shit|1 Similar to how youre told x rays are harmless but the technicians stand behind a protective wall One blast wont harm you regular exposure is a different matter|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The point is that he lives in New York which is a very special and important place to live|1 Lol|1 I think a majority of conspiracy theorists on Reddit have no idea about the peer review process|0 His twitters out there and you can check for yourself how reliable or sensible you think it is I mean we are talking about the guy who literally showed off a hurricane track map with a sharpie mark on it to make it match his own BS statements and congratulated Kansas for Missouris win in the Superbowl just to name a couple off the top of my head They arent unreliable for the same reasons and Trump is not the US govt as a whole but its objectively the case that if Trump puts something out on twitter people are going to think its unreliable|1 Good for you What line of work are you in|1 Its also the Summer in Australia which is beneficial in fighting viruses It should help limit any kind of spread out in the open air|1 yep looks like a great way to spread those germs Good ole Merica|1 Great link thnx|1 Are you eligible for EI If not there will still be help available through Emergency Care and Emergency Support benefits I believe it will be done through an online application Take a deep breath more information will be available shortly|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yep an NBA players and Tom HanksDear lord please let the Kardashians not make it out of this onePlease do the world a favour|1 Well my wife works in patient care I am an elementary school teacher and we have kidsOur precautions are the routine ones Wash hands use hand sanitizer primarily outside the home where handwashing is not practical Wipe down certain surfaces with antiseptic wipes or a bleach solution Were not going to wear masks unless I guess we find ourselves in a close quarter group situation which seems unlikelyIf we get infected were not worried as we dont have any of the risk factors We fully expect to get a temporary high fever followed by a lingering cough|1 I agree though to be fair its not just the US lots of countries around the world are making a similar decision and as long as some countries do China will be reinfected even if the US quarantined|1 My spouse was having some issues breathing along with several other symptoms We felt that her symptoms warranted a test Mostly due to the fact she is a massage therapist and several of her clients are pilots And they wouldnt even consider itShe ended up at emerg a couple days later and it definitely seemed like there were a lot of people having symptomNo one was tested|1 I feel like America should do this everything else is drive through even liquor stores|1 Thats where Im at Four weeks of barely any sleep complete sanitizer induced insanity and constantly warning my significant other that we DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH WEED TO LAST THROUGH A QUARANTINE|0 This pretty much We have been on a trajectory for decades where an event like this or something else was eventually going to put the needs and safety of the american public at odds with corporate America|1 Lets be real the vast majority of experts worldwide think the UKs strategy is wrong The number of experts who agree with the UKs strategy is vanishingly small How many are there that actually agree with it as in independent experts who are not part of the governments advisory team I havent been able to find a single one who thinks it is a good idea or makes sense or supports it over the WHOs recommendations I think people ought to be told this about the governments plan that the majority scientific consensus is that it is wrong and dangerous It is kind of like climate change denial vs climate scientists there are a tiny number of scientists who are on the side of climate change denial and they get overexposed by vested interests like the oil industry and then 999 of climate scientists agree on the main premise that human acitvity is causing run away climate changeUnfortunately in this analogy our government is going with the teeny proportion of denialists instead of the majority scientific consensus Its irresponsible not to let people know that and its also irresponsible and irrational to not be angry about itIt seems to me that in the last few days this sub has been swamped with people who are trying to push the governments line and that is concerning given this governments heavy reliance on and penchant for spreading disinformation on social mediaTo have a decent sub by all means what the government says should be presented but the majority scientific consensus and critiques of the government should be made prominent especially given the number of lives on the line and the sheer number of experts who oppose the governments approach Getting people to just calm down and trust the government is really sinister IMO which is what a lot of these new users seem to be trying to do|1 Correction Trump and republicans messed up or intentionally gutted the CDC They dont believe in functioning govt and they will use this to make govt smaller even though they are the one who caused it|0 It wasnt a public mandate but there are no accredited universities that will host students after Sunday Theyre all closed with the last of them finally vacating Sunday night per campus policy Enterprise rental car has dropped the renting age to 18 to accommodate the college student migrations|0 Ahhhh ok ok that makes a lot more sense I didnt see that Thank you Im guessing for tracing reasons or|1 Good point about the heat However there might still be a problem with the uncooked parts like the bun and veggies on the burger The risk is probably small though Fries would probably be completely safe|1 Youre goddamn right|0 As gross as it is bag it and toss it|0 Why did you specifically say current political party then|1 If were unable to contain this virus and it begins increasing to the point where we need to take more robust measures to keep it controlled But were not there yet Its a balancing act between keeping people separate to contain the virus and letting them go on with their lives Dr Torres|1 Oh people have thought of that along with voice controlled light and curtains But its expensive and no one thought it was necessary until now|0 she wouldnt be eligible for to being fired for causeI am pretty sure this isnt true please double check this good luck|1 I have a rough idea but not 100 assurance I know we have had a couple of people by me though|0 Where tf are all these test kits though Pence put a cool million of them in the mail a week and a half ago now jack ma puts 500k in the mail theres a new more automated one that will be ready Sunday Who knows maybe next week we will finally be surprised and actually have access to tests|1 The most likely scenario is that the amount of testing will better represent the actual number|1 Donating blood is good 3 gallon donor here So are they going to screen the donated blood for Coronavirus Are they going to cram people in a room where they can transmit it to others Even if a potential donor fails the initial test to donate because of high temp or something just think how many people they can infect before they leave There are so many problems they need to address when doing this|0 It is a moronic argument Youre gonna need thicker skin if meanies on the internet can bring you down|0 Some movie producer somewhere is typing a mail furiously as we speak|0 Thank you THANK YOU|1 Yup You could be worrying about coronavirus today and hit by a bus tomorrowJust live your life in the now|0 I do like your wording|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 The reality still is that likely only a maximum of 5 of people will die from this and thatll mostly come from retired people who arent contributing to the continuing functioning of the state The vast majority of the workforce will just get a bit ill and then carry on So even in the worst case scenario youll just have some sick people manning all the power stations and water treatment utilities and after a couple of weeks everything will be normal again for themSo the only significant threat will come from quarantines that could last maybe up to two months in a worst case scenario and factor in a further month before international shipping returns to normal So really your main concern should be What might run out in the stores that Ill needSociety isnt going to break down Were just potentially going to be inconvenienced for a while|0 Was the problem lack of test kits|0 1 Complete Social Isolation unless we get wide spread testing done as there is no current protocol to rule out asymptomatic carriers in the population2 Suspend Mortgages similar to Italian Efforts we cannot have Americans be sent to the poor house as a result of a natural disaster3 For workers that cannot telecommute implement Food stamps and other grants such as wage supplement to help through tough times|0 That is why we have 50 states because a central government cant effectively manage this many people This is good and correct|1 In Seattle a pretty rich school system overall the superintendent managed to get TMobile to provide complimentary access points for families that didnt have broadband ISPs are gonna have to step it up|1 Maybe Im dumb but why would you smoke weed when itll just make you hungry at the very least Youll eat through all your reserves lol|1 Trump is really unfit to deal with this pandemic Only cares about image and not about our country Disappointed but not surprised|0 Cant have too much good advice The advice nurse I talked with mentioned the shower thing which makes good sense She also suggested sleeping on a slightly raised pillow Im sure these are all basic to you but its all new to me|1 Thats a strong argument you have there because you can caught I see its not only reading you struggle with but writing too|0 Many studies have shown handwashing to be the absolute best way to prevent transmission since it can live on surfaces for many hours and sometimes days Meaning people who are not infected can spread it|1 Chinas lying mate|0 A lot of things its not uncommon for briefing like this to happen in that sort of setting Put away the tin foil hat for now|1 Dont worry there will be plenty of SARS2 around still when it comes out|1 4 Profit|1 Great job de Blasio on doing your part to save lives and flatten the curve s|1 Do we have any idea of the incubation I wonder if half the world isnt already exposed and infected What a shit show this has turned out to be|0 Amen He does not exume confidence I hear him and all I hear is appeasement and shit is actually bad lol|0 One case they will not hesitate to confirm|1 Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday said that the government will bolster testing capabilities to about 1000 samples per day by Feb 18 by allowing testing at private facilities compared with up to 300 samples at the moment httpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200212nationalsciencehealthjapancovid19testkitshortagecruiseshipXk3uhGhKg2whttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200212nationalsciencehealthjapancovid19testkitshortagecruiseshipXk3uhGhKg2wJapanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has pledged to devote 153 billion yen S1935 million in emergency measures to fight the virus and to ensure that 600 million new masks will be available within a month He had earlier vowed to raise the testing capacity for the new coronavirus from 300 cases a day to more than 1000 by next weekhttpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasiacoronavirusafterfirstdeathjapanseesfirstpossiblecaseofdoctortopatienthttpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasiacoronavirusafterfirstdeathjapanseesfirstpossiblecaseofdoctortopatient|0 Were up to 85 total Oh dear|1 Your first paragraph prob has a lot of truth but the lower fatality rate later is just because many were still infected and death occurs after about a week Of hospitalized cases expect a CFR of 515 But thats normal for respiratory diseases|0 191 in France I heard there was a case at BoisGuillaume in Normandy in France was it confirmed Very close to me and I want to stay safe lol|1 It could most definitely complicate matters|1 Look people can do what they want and that is fine but believe it or not there are still alot of people that dont think it is right and they get to have an opinion|1 From what I understand this is specific for the Ace 2 ligand angiotensin And as a consequence possesses an affinity for the Spike protein which it is intended to outcompete the native ACE2 for Im curious what effect it will have to the concentration of angiotensin in blood and if that is enough to disrupt normal functioning I guess mouse work will make or break this method|1 Shit is gonna get back up close to predictions soon Not gonna be a pleasant headline to read when the truth comes out|0 Serious question did they shutdown the country the same as Italy has Im reading that people are still going to work and restaurants in China outside of Hubei|0 And where does that money comes from after the economy has stopped And what is this money worth if everyone stops working and nothing is made|0 This pathetic whining aint going to keep him from getting reelected just like all the other lies|0 Its going to get worse before it gets better guys Trump is downplaying the virus and risking lives|0 I would rather stay home and starve to death than know that I was responsible for killing other people by my own selfishness|0 I know itso am I But I am reminded of from my neighbors and family is that we are actually fairly tough We can and will get through this|0 I hate this stance so much And my family is like it will come eventually why even try to slow it down or contain it|0 A 14 days shutdown would be like turning back time on the spread of the virus The point is to not have everyone sick at the same time That is a doomsday scenario|1 Absolutely not Im just pointing out the fact of the matter that Canada has put in place moderately rigorous testing for a country that is not as fargone as Italy Most comparable G7 countries are not in a good position either When France had 423 cases theyd only tested 6629 people March 5th Ontario alone has tested twice of thatLets have a look at some of the Western G7 countries at similar places in their outbreakFrancehttpswwwmediterraneeinfectioncomwpcontentuploads202003COVID19pdf 423 positive 6628 tested March 5United Kingdomhttpwebarchiveorgweb20200312233806httpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublic 590 positive 29764 tested Mar 12United Stateshttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsu2de2PACX1vRwAqp96T9sYYq2i7Tj0pvTf6XVHjDSMIKBdZHXiCGGdNC0ypEU9NbngS8mxea55JuCFuua1MUeOj5pubhtml 584 positive 4397 tested Mar 9South KoreahttpncovmohwgokrtcmBoardViewdobrdIdbrdGubundataGubunncvContSeq353063contSeq353063boardidgubunALL Not G7 but a good benchmark 602 positive 26179 tested Feb 23Canadahttpsvirihealthcom 597 positive 42976 tested As of EOD March 17Canada in comparison is doing well South Korea has hit 4099 per Million tests which is considered the golden standard to hit that Canada would have to test around 150000 people They are 22 days ahead of us on their epidemic curve Our challenge ahead of us is maintaining the amount of kits and the amount of testing we have been doing and deploying this kind of testing to other provinces and lesser served communities Its going to run our system thin but it might be possible|1 Why is my ip blocked lol|1 Wow let me just find the source of that claim where the person got bit with a bat oh wait they deleted it as soon as people started calling them out literally with every other thing And now apparently it originated in the US Military httpswwwglobalresearchcachinacoronavirusshockingupdate5705196httpswwwglobalresearchcachinacoronavirusshockingupdate5705196 OkEdit Even this article relates to a previous study its not from the wet markets and they already went and checked two months ago back when it could still be traceable|1 Man the next week is going to be bad maybe 15K by next Saturday hopefully after another week the 29th were see some leveling off from the initiatives announced over the last 48 hours take effect but it probably isnt enough to stabilize|0 There is evidence that hiflow noninvasive ventilation increases aerosolization and makes it more likely that staff become infectedAt least for now our health systems are trying to avoid thisWhat we need for coronavirus as others have said are more full blown endotracheal ventilator system This must also have plateau pressure measurement ability due to these patients having ARDS and requiring low tidal volume ventilation with controlled pressuresI honestly do not know how feasible this all is without an existing manufacturer releasing some blueprints|0 By the way Im a bit of a smartass and didnt see a pandemic coming when I chose what I thought to be a funny name 6 months ago Touche on the callout|0 Governments purposely didnt tell you the truth in January because they didnt want it to hurt the economy and didnt want to cause panic What they were doing behind closed doors might be completely different to what you are being told How do you know the governments havent been secretly preparing since JanuaryYou know shit about the government supplies right now till this thing hits your countryWe will all eventually find out but I personally think the governments all saw what was happening in China in January and were all secretly stockpiling supplies Well I hope|1 Not dodging Just got the info off a slack channel from work Have asked for the location bit its the weekend so probably wont hear until tomorrow|1 They dont want us to panic but they are ok with us dying for lack of masks|0 All these totalitarian governments maintain power with an iron fist There is protests all the time trying to implement democracy Both China and Iran suffer from this regularly These sorts of events that jeopardize the survival of the government are worst case scenario for them Thats why theyll always be in a dance with preventing disaster from happening and allowing the economy to collapse and by proxy their hold on power China has an exponentially stronger grasp on power than Iran does Iran has been tripping over every obstacle in their path for the last few months Thats what worries me that this is already out of control and they are just now finding out|0 Thats what I was thinking It literally felt like I had an invisible shield all around me|1 As long as you agree doctor|1 Germany has a heavily decentralized testing system Hundreds of labs that can do lots of tests and any doctor can order a test any time at their own discretion Thats why they catch many more and milder cases That said decentralization will probably have disadvantages later in the epidemic|0 Yeah I started because of this virus Its the only thing I can control and burns alot if anxiety Thrash metalbikeNirvana|1 Well hopefully the government doesnt eliminate your job and livelihood overnight Dumbest comment Ive read in the last few days|1 Damn thats rough|0 I have two older family members with COPD and three with diabetes and ten who are current or exsmokers You have older family members If you dont Im sorry Lets not trivialize the matter Many of our families will be impacted If not yours then your neighbors or your friends Have some compassion|1 I just barely managed to convince my parents to stock some more canned food and fill water containersUp to 4 cases in Norway now one of which is maybe 15km away|1 Thanks for sharing this uthatreddittherapist Ive recently updated with some vegetarian suggestions and if you remove the parmesan cheese its mostly vegan so I hope it helps OP|1 This is why Singapore is jailing people for disobeying orders like these Draconian measures need to be put into effect for assholes like this|1 rages on American|0 There has been absolutely no attempt by the federal government to slow transmission at all The lack of testing seems to be intentional I feel as thought they have decided to sacrifice the most expensive and least productive citizens the elderlypeople with pre existing conditions|0 I am on almost 100 of this list also added OM mushroom superfoods all 4 types Elderberry liquid was 10 at Walmart Ive been sick since mid January and was going the natural route|0 Im looking forward to inevitably getting it because the UK is playing it passive and hoping it goes away on its own|1 Theres plenty countries where you can trust the government and the countries that are currently testing like crazy are among them If nothing else theyre at least showing that public health is of overriding importance and that theyre prepared and organized Granted thats a high bar for some|1 why dot you two just shoot eachother and ill take both of your suppliesbeing sneaky having guns|0 Feel free to post this over at rcoronavirusfloridahttpswwwredditcomrcoronavirusflorida too|1 Do you have any sources I could myself use Very interesting|1 It is somewhat related There has been a increase in population Thats not bad in itself and it doesnt make immigration badBut having a fairly large increase in population 16 since 2000 and not increasing the capacity of the health care system is a recipe for disaster|1 You did the right thing friend|1 Excellent petition Great to see that the CDC resumed reporting the important statebystate numbers Regrettably the CDC map does not pinpoint the exact number of cases in states with 1 to 5 cases and it does not pinpoint the city or county location of each reported case in the US For example the CDC map simply shows Reported 1 to 5 for the entire state of Florida Some users might like the interactive map Coronavirus COVID19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSEhttpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Center for Systems Science and Engineering which shows Florida has a total of 3 confirmed cases including 2 confirmed cases for Hillsborough Florida with a status of Deaths 0 Recovered 0 Existing 2 and 1 confirmed case for Sarasota Florida with a status of Deaths 0 Recovered 0 Existing 1 The John Hopkins map presents fresh updated data throughout the dayhttpssystemsjhueduresearchpublichealthncov httpssystemsjhueduresearchpublichealthncov when new cases are identified in any US state The map reports city level cases in Canada and Australia and province level cases in China The map shows the exact number of all confirmed cases and case status in all affected countries and territories around the world Tip the upperright corner of the John Hopkins map includes a Basemaps tool for selecting a users preferred basemap including the National Geographic basemap The Default Map Extent tool allows a user to select the China Australia North America Europe Eurasia or World default map extent Be healthy and be safe|1 Well the joke is on ppl who think Buzzfeed is a news source|1 If theres one thing Ive been pissing about its the paywalls on essential articles Hopefully they all follow suit like tomorrow|1 Did you watch the fucking video no obviously not He said the dems trying to pin shit on him was a hoax not that the virus was a hoax Go watch the video This is just fake BS news It makes you look like a fucking moron to repeat it|0 My doctor friends were joking about that It better not be the case Gods know we have too many fucking mosquitoes|1 Positive vibes as always You got them good|1 My gf is Italian shes not there but seeing this just brings tears to my eyes Hope Italy comes out of the stronger|1 The OPs point wasnt that the US had a super strain or that the US healthcare system is that bad its that we likely have dramatically more cases in the US than are reported Thats probably a valid conclusion for it to have hit a nursing home via community spread we know that it must have circulated through undetected cases and its pretty likely that those undetected cases infected people other than the nursing home that were not detecting because they arent an atrisk population|1 Thats thing I couldnt afford 14 days of quarantine at all It would be wise if the government would at least give out MREs to those who would struggle|1 Well any progress to ending this pandemic no matter how small even an antibody that still needs a peer review is welcomed news|1 Wait Is Fox News downplaying the danger of the virus|0 I brought up my concerns with upper management about putting our entire company in one room together and the response I received was Were all gonna get it anyway may as well just not fight it and get it over withIt sounds like they are aware of the risk and are actively trying to get everyone infected Do you have this in writing from them This sounds like a situation where they could end up answering uncomfortable questions from lawyers|1 If they try to treat serious cases the drug will most probably barely work if work at all But from mice data I think that the drug could more than halve the cases if taken prophylactically before the patient is infected|0 Not sure about that SK did incredible amounts of testing including people that had no symptoms or anything Id suggest that SK managed to capture the largest percentage of all active cases outside of the Diamond Princess|1 Maybe to get the truth out If i was sick and saw situation is way worse than it is i would do the same to let people know At least in my mindset|0 Agreed|1 Nah the title has to have more punch to it to sell in Hollywood I will go with Death Cruise|0 Well see how good very soon I think well be OK Last I read we have 54 million masks for example US has 12 million Its only one factor but quite illustrative|1 Harsh|0 due to government chastisement and disinformation i am now scared of wearing the few masks i bought in January it was hard to find them and they were actually a financial sacrifice i feel really upset because i know i will break down and wear them but i really dont think they should have created such an ugly campaign i actually worry i will be attacked i have decided to limit my exposure outside because i have had pneumonia three times in the last few years and three times in the distant past it is almost as if they are doing everything possible to train people not to be proactive dont use masks dont change behavior dont get informed|0 An entire country if 195 billion people destroying its economy over a mild fluMight want to check your population facts bruh|0 How can I protect myself stay away from the virus Bro No shit|0 Its a pretty easy to follow difference in government that works to protect people vs government that works to protect private business interests Its almost like voting for people that have your interests in mind and policies that you agree with actually matters|1 I heard this year in general has been particularly rough with regards to the flu especially with kids Something about the flu vaccine not being a good match for this years flu strain This info came from my kids pediatrician I think if there was a spike in unknown Coronavirus cases we would see an unusual spike in Pneumonia deaths|0 Whoa nice Thats actually awesome|1 Id like to provide some practices reported in Chinese thats done in China in case its not reported in English media1Nurses need psychological support2In China PPE were in shortage and some nurses wear one set for a whole day A set of ppe should be discarded if you go to the bathroom So they dont drink or drink a little and use diapers to save the PPE may not be the right choice3Since PPE and masks were so short of only nurses working directly with confirmed cases wear them Other medical staff wear masks only in some hospitals in China4Nurses and doctors from other cities go to Hubei for help and rotation Also good news is of the 40k staff from other provinces it is reported that NONE of them contracted coronavirus But more than 3000 nurses and doctors who come from Hubei did contract the virus though many got it before the quarantine when people were not paying enough attention I guess the difference is due to better preparation and sufficient gear So calmness and enough protection is really goodcrucial to avoid reduction in head count of nurses5WHO or Italian embassy in China can provide more details than me I think cooperation and knowledge exchange is neededMaybe someone in Italy can check if these can help there and if so whether it is done|1 Small incremental steps to improve the situationYoung people are less likely to die from it Strictly speaking I think the best way to survive this is to be young Lol thats a joke son laughNow notice Im not saying Everything will be fine Im not in denial Im not delusional You are not crazy to feel bad Accept that you feel bad Thats okay Now think What can you do Clean your room Get organized Learn Teach me Lets trade info|1 My business is basically shut down The longer it goes the worse off we are but it will save many many lives to drag down that peak bubble as much as possible I aint going nowhere|1 Whats the point of people trying to slow down the spread by working from home home schooling etc if people go to these massive unnecessary gigs and spread it by the thousandWhen the health service gets overwhelmed were fucked|0 Beshear said including washing ones hands more than you normally do and staying home if youre sick The states businesses should make sure you have options for individuals who are sick including working from home and offering unpaid sick leave he saidYeah definitely people will stay home for that|0 Before bed Thats how to keep you awake at night if the news is scary Mornings for me |0 Sucks for the older Americans left on the ship|0 Youre joking right I agree with his point but new money Chinese people are bloody rich Have you seen international school students Im second generation Chinese in the UK and my parents are not more prosperous than their counterparts in China Dont say this is just a n1 situation because I have seen many cases of this among friends and family friendsChina will make you a lot of money especially the land owners of developing cities Doesnt make it not a shithole though|1 Yes thats possible but this only applies to individuals In fact there are already multiple cases of people who hide their infection and were later detained and charged with endangering public security One guy was taken by the police right after he was discharged from hospital The local media heavily reports this kind of news to warn peopleAs for official numbers the central committee also vowed to punish any local officials who try to under report the numbers in their districts Several people have already been fired because of thisSo I would say the numbers should be pretty accurate|0 They should but they wont just like they never had Unless the death toll is dramatic and people feel like they have nothing to lose nothing will change The doctors are still not wearing eye protection despite numerous Chinese expert saying that people are just as likely to catch it through their eyes are through their respiratory system The official incubation period is still 14 days despite Chinese studies confirming its as much as 24 days and Chinese officials claiming it can be even 27 daysTests are being performed on people who were in China or Italy despite confirmed local spread Its incredible how much incompetence there is and I fear this will lead to radical groups from all sides of the political spectrum strengthening their belief in conspiracy theories and may result in violence|0 No its a mess I prefer a hospital sorryyy|0 I am aware of the report What Im concerned about is that when the government reports deaths of people with underlying health conditions we dont know the severity of those conditions or which conditions they were We are left to wonder and worry and feel like the government is throwing people with those kinds of conditions under the bus because they dont seem to be responding in an appropriate manner in terms of trying to slow or stop the spread of infection Theyre not advising against international travel theyre not telling people with atrisk conditions to avoid public places or large gatherings or contact with sick people theyre not even trying to test people with symptoms unless they have travelled abroad recently or had contact with a confirmed caseTheyre using this underlying health conditions phrase to try to reassure the healthy and prevent panic while dismissing the concerns of those with the atrisk conditions|0 Hmm can we get this same type of graph but with the flu instead|0 Its possible we are still getting numbers from before they changed the system though There is a delay on results around five days long I think Although I cant find a source for that right now|0 Besides talking to people on here what else have you been doing to cope during these scary and uncertain times I couldnt agree more about the news I was monitoring it all the time and my anxiety sky rocketed so Ive been trying to only check it a handful of times throughout the day and it seems to help|0 More and more young healthy people are severely sick They just take longer to die Info is being released by Italy I think China has kind of surpressed this In Germany a child is in ICU I think when politicians realize thats not only the old who are at risk they will implement harsher measures as did China|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Ugh Socialists s|0 I understand what youre saying and I appreciate your advice I think the panic buying is ridiculous especially a non necessity like loo roll but I dont think its fair to blame people like this elderly lady for not stock piling before|0 Youre fucked up|0 Ugh agreed Thank you for your response We are trying to pick up the pieces as we go along Right now mostly emotional cleanup as this intrusion has rocked me hard My husband has been great and sprayed the house down good|1 Actually that might be a symptom People act irrationally when they catch the virus it seems|0 Half of them are trolls 14 of then are scared people in denial and the last 14 will never believe its worse than the flu even if it ravages their very own neighborhood|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 EhI dont think the Mormons are prepared There was a massive run on toilet paper and water last week here in Utah I needed flour and Walmart was completely sold out People posting 6 packs on local classified for 100 And somebody has been stealing rolls of toilet paper from a police departmenthttpswwwkslcomarticle46726574firstcoronaviruscasediagnosedinutahhoursaftergovernordeclaresstateofemergency you have to scroll down in the story to get to that bit|0 If it is true about the 24 period she could have had it the whole time she was IN quarentine and infected everybody else in that group which is a very scary prospect|0 So glad I stocked up weeks ago so I dont gotta worry about this|1 Thank you All the best to you|1 Well said|1 I wish we would switch to metric Its just more logical|1 Nothing but the flu|1 I hope for the best which province|1 People in China have already killed others for supplies There was also a group of armed Chinese raiding for supplies Their haul toilet paper The new currency|0 Actually I was hoping we would implement stricter quarantine rules for Singapore here in TaiwanBut then I thought about itAnd I said to myself Self both of these places have advanced modern economies and world class health care systems If these two places get overrun by this thing then theres really no hope for the entire Asian continentAnd then I looked at the numbers and saw that while Taiwan has nearly 5x the population of Singapore it has less than 13 the number of total cases But hey whos countingBut I calmed down Cooler heads prevailed I thought about the inescapable fact that what we really urgently need is a proven treatment A vaccine would also be great but at minimum some effective way to treat the afflicted All this containment restriction of travel and contact tracing is nothing more than a delay mechanism Its buying time We can slow it down but I think were all realizing that its going to be near impossible to stop it Science needs to come to the rescue The sooner the better Im thinking this is what we should be focusing our energies on|1 What about its ability to spread via consumer shipping Having something from lets say California shipped to the east coast of america Just a thought for the cases that they cant trace back to a source|1 Enough with the exaggeration he was admitted to a hospital and given supportive treatment aka normal moderatesevere flu treatment When it progressed to mild pneumonia they initiated more aggressive treatment which effectively resolved the pneumoniaYoure putting the horse before the cart and implying that he was receiving the aggressive treatment and still developed pneumonia This is blatantly deceptive and fearmongering and dangerous because it may discourage people from seeking hospital treatment|0 I doubt its a cover up More we either again lucked out or we are missing key data to be certain Not trying to fear monger here just being pragmatic Weve seen pop ups where we though it was secure after all|1 Best healthcare system in the world|1 Oh my God this seriously makes me the happiest of anything Ive read on here I hope the penguins had the most wonderful time|1 I laughed so hard I almost spit out my bleach|1 He has a temper ire of 371 C I dont think he has a fever|0 93 of statistics on the internet are fake Abraham Lincoln|0 Fuck|0 Curse your statistics for attacking my racist garbage|0 Yes Also it is a good idea to use headphones and microphone when you talk to someone on the phoneinstead of putting the phone on your face|1 Much better solution Brings awareness to hand sanitation and would be hilarious|1 But not as bad as moist markets|1 Dude you are lucky to have an N95 mask I cant find anywhere that sells them nowAnyways Tom Hanks is positive with the virus now so next time you wear it out just tell people you dont want to be like Tom Hanks These people will react because someone famous got it|1 Depends what state you live in If its a decent one they will use the national guard to distribute supplies during the lockdown I saw some videos of them getting ready in my state already|1 Please stop You are spreading blatant misinformation all over this thread Take a minute to digest what you are actually reading Your example of the Diamond Princess is an inaccurate conclusion from the data I know you mean well but you are doing harm|0 Oh sorryI hope he gets better I hope he stops fucking this situation up I hope he recognizes for once the consequences of his actions I hope he starts to put the proper policies in place Yeah right Hoping does fuck all when reality points to the opposite Youre just setting yourself up for failure At least if the orange lard croaks Pence will be more competent|1 1 chance of infection per 10 minutes of contact with an infectedThis is the sum of the probabilities sort of like the probability of someone coughing and all other ways to generate respiratory droplets enough viruses in respiratory droplets ended up in your lungI cant say what will happen when you have viral respiratory droplets in your mouth But I would guess the chance are not high if its go thorugh your digestive system eg someone spat on your food and you ate it because the virus has to go through your respiratory system|1 This one event amongst the outbreak will make an interesting movie some day|1 Have you noticed if you search any combination of words relating to coronavirusYou get a bunch of global news videos from 1 week ago and yesterdays cbc national special with comments disabled|1 This applies to outpatient and urgent care clinics ONLY They will still do testing patients in the ED or those admitted to the hospital from what I understand|1 Im not sure this assumes that there are 350 million people in the US so 1 would be 35 million not 700000 people|0 Yeah dont really need a brain to realize that|1 Like I said you are wasting plenty of money by shopping for every mealAnd not making several batch meals at once Plenty of people living paycheck to paycheck can afford a dollar a week if they think about it properly Iv been there myself|0 forgive them they lack critical thinking skills|0 No problem Ive already accepted that if my dad gets exposed to Coronavirus at work Im planning several projects and games to work on while in quarantine since my odds of likely being subjected to one will be higher than a lot of people|0 i read in a book once that before the advent of modern hospitals women used to squat to give birth and apparently it was far less painful than lying down and pushing|0 I eat right exercise dont smoke go to bed at a reasonable hour and Im still more stressed than everDitto last night was my first night of bad sleep|0 No because theyre not testing which is understandable due to the fact it makes no difference to the treatment of mild cases but it does mean we wont have true figures|0 great news|1 why not both These are pros and as a collective group make more than the owners Both groups players and owners are in the top 1 This is the time that they should be helping to keep this economy going|1 This is probably too late and will never be seen but it appears at least based on the study below that an oral swab alone being negative doesnt mean much It isnt that SARSCov2 hides as much as it is that it appears that the coronavirus shows up in different fluidsetc in different stages of illness Based on this study link below the only way to truly be sure if a person is negative is to test for SARSCov2 by ALL of the following oral swab anal swab and blood sample No Im not a doctor or person in the medical field I just read a lot Link for studyhttpswwwtandfonlinecomdoifull1010802222175120201729071|0 My wife is a respiratory therapist and her hospital is slammed right now They dont even have the corona virus yet Usually the winter brings crazy amounts of respiratory cases but its not happened until this week for some reason It was a slow winter for them|0 Actually yes to WA governor just ordered restaurants and bars to close and crowds more than 50 are banned|0 Turning into a vegetable sounds fun|1 I should say that where im from weve had a fuck load of new houses built in the last ten years so it might be because of the population too|0 I have family in China and I suspect you are right about hygiene Public spitting is very common as is a Chinese tissue where you blow your nose Into the sink or trash can without a tissue Also soap is not used as frequently as it is in the US Finally it looks like it is possibly transmitted via fecal matter At my relatives house all drinking water is boiled this is standard as it is not sanitized like most of the USs tap water But my family still uses unboiled water to rinse vegetables even those that are not cooked No amount of explaining has been able to change this I do think the US will be better in terms of hygiene but worse in terms of compliance We are Americans Land of the free People will be less likely to follow government regulations to voluntarily self quarantine and an enforced quarantine will take much longer to occur if at all due to political backlash And dont forget our government is telling people not to even wear masks despite studies proving even a handkerchief is better than nothing So I think if you average all these things together we will probably come out the same as China|1 Imagine the virus isnt contained in the US and its spreads like crazy am I insane if I say were looking at around 10000 deaths in Florida alone|0 I made a comment about how bizarre it was to see all the frozen pizza sold outMy friend said well its quick What if your kids are home and you have to feed the whole family at onceUm Youre at home Youve been home all day Cook something|1 if youre worried about getting strange looks do what i did place an online pickup order at target do it over multiple orders this way you dont have to worry about looking weird i didnt do it because of that but it was just easier to make a list and order online just my 2 cents|1 Cool and all But enough about talking about that for weeks how about actually doing it now|1 You mean immigration Customs only cares about what your bringing back in your bags|1 Well gee Wish I could but that is literally impossible at this point|1 Any news on recovered patient Besides that one guy who got sick way back when we had it under control|0 Possibilities why young people have lower fatality rates1 There are more cases overall among young people2 Young people with high chances of living get prioritized over older people for resources such as the ICU and hospitalizationThese both terrify me In Italy they arent even admitting anyone 65 and over Theyre just left to die of course the mortality rate in older people are way higher Had they done the same to young people would it be different Please have some social responsibility and limit your traveling for everyones fucking sake|0 Uh no Look at the graphs againBlue chuck is healthyhave not been exposed In the 3rd case mild social distancing a few managed to be isolated enough that they were never exposed In the 4th case strong distancing significantly more remained diseasefree|1 Its just a post full of unverified claims with no sources|0 Thank you and please keep kicking You are awesome for what you are doing Thank you|1 So we all should be using motorbike helmets That would be hella cool actually|1 I feel like Ive been in hurricane or prepping for one for past month|1 Oh its going to be an epic shitstorm with a lot of death absolutely Everyone down to the last person probably not Its difficult to know at this point because data and testing is so bad were literally flying in the dark with such inadequate testing we also cant really accurately know the number of people who had it mild symptoms and recovered on their own through Luck or whatever Due to those 2 things and others its honestly really impossible to know anything accurately right now We can look at whats happening in other countries but they all have different cultures and infrastructures and healthresponses So their outcomes may not be indicative of ours Ours is likely to really suck though Really suck hard|0 Were about to find out because there is no way to stop what happened in Wuhan from happening in Los Angeles or New York Its spreading really fast Were fucked|0 I was in contact with them and have a fever If it goes away then Im fine Right now Im anxious yes|1 Illinois has shut down barsrestaurants except for takeout delivery for at least 2 weeks which I think might be survivable If the two weeks stretches to 4 or longer I have no idea whats going to happen I feel like this is going to make 2008 look like the good ol days|1 Not suprised It has already been here for a while I truly believe it has been in our populace since January as many of us got Corona like symptoms but had no idea what the virus even wasIt is pretty much a waste of time to test people and to close all of these places events etc Dont get me wrong i am not saying we shouldnt be cautious But we should treat it the same as the flu Maybe it is our workaholic culture that needs to change people are not given enough sick time and have to or feel like they have to go to work sick If anything is to change or be different in our society maybe we should be more cautious aware of things like staying home when we have the flu as the flu kills alot of people also|1 Got data to backup your fear mongering Or just more excuses|0 It would be really nice if they stopped eating live baby mice too Thats freaking gross it bothers me|0 Well thats just not true I dont think anyone would define Milano Torino or Venezia underdeveloped|0 From what Ive seenheard the place where its REALLY serious is Wuhan Im currently in Shanghai and have been monitoring the numbers in all cities in China and it has been relatively stable Besides Wuhan no exponential growth Life isnt normal but its not a zombie apocalypse either Malls are still open restaurants are still open some are closed people can still drive youll see a number of cars on the roads people still in malls but way less Everyone wearing masks though Temperature scans are standard now It seems to be under control just precautionary measures which I can commend|1 Wu Flu|0 Lets go I was thinking the same thing people just believe what they want lmao|1 Yes this disease is real And yes there truly do appear to be vulnerable patients among us those far more likely to develop critical illness from it And that relatively small subset if infected in high numbers could add up to a tragically high number of fatalities if we fail to adequately protect themThe good news is that we have huge advantages to leverage We already know all of this and have learned it remarkably quickly We know how this virus spreads We know how long people are contagious We know who the most vulnerable patients are likely to be and where they areHealthy people who are hoarding food masks and hand sanitizer may feel like they are doing the right thing But all good intentions aside these actions probably represent misdirected anxieties When such efforts are not directly in service of protecting the right people not only do they miss the point of everything we have learned so far they may actually unwittingly be squandering what have suddenly become precious and limited resources|1 This just made my heart sink I cant imagine the sheer fear these parents are feeling|0 US stock market is still at an all time high When the market reacts and plummets then I will start to worry|0 im sorry but twitter isnt a legitimate source anyone can make a twitter and tweet whatever the hell they want but this source doesnt even say anything but people in their 20s can get sick which everyone whos not an idiot already knows no one is immune but its also not the majority of people by any means also down further if you really want to believe twitter is a reliable source there is someone else down below who says her and MD and other and MDs IN SEATTLE believe it is false info|0 Absolutely Also permanent make infertility dno if that affects you but affects me and my wifes future plansx200BThis plan is all kinds of fucked up|0 I dont think iran is necessarily purposely hiding info maybe partly I just think its gone too far too fast and they have no idea whats going on|0 So its pretty typical pneumoniamy middle aged mother had pneumonia a few years ago and shes super healthy but it knocked her out for about two weeks and another few weeks of fatigue Had to go back for a few checks Fever got to 104 at one point but wasnt admitted to the hospital Pneumonia would be in line with worse than the flu but less bad than SARS|0 Yeah sorry folks but people down here are gonna be stupid until they lock it down Mayor already came out and threatened to take licenses but knowing my city well be in curfew and lockdown before the week is up Also there at least is a program available for unemployment now if you lose work to the virus or shutdown from the federal government mental here Its a fun time cause NOLA is uniquely ready to have it at its worst if they dont respond well and fast enough|0 That is true commitment|1 Wrong They filled them with medicinal plants to filter out strong smells and dirty particles Some of the plants used had effective filtering and anti bacterial properties|0 Thank you I thought was seriously deficient in math cause I couldnt figure it out Didnt realize there was 6 in CA yikesNot all the maps have been updated I guess|1 My theory is they are available but theres a media blackout on reporting the results in the US similar to how China misreported to prevent panic At the end of the day the CDC reports to the President who has been pretty clear that hell do whatever it takes to prevent the stock market from having red numbers instead of green ones My guess is we probably wont hear about the amount of people tested nor if they test negative but report potentially positive test results|0 Because they dont give a fuck about their students|1 I would say its unlikely First there is only really one strain of SARSCoV2 circulating Second the other coronaviruses that circulate are more often found infecting children If it were ADE children would be getting very sick It would not be disproportionately affecting the elderly as well|0 This China central government controls all the information release in an emergency Only when being authorized can the local government release the data|0 This is so true majority wont even be seen because they cant afford health care|1 I have a feeling this is going to start happening a lot Im a nurse in NE small hospital I shipped out a patient on Tuesday with covid19 symptoms and was told we have to wait until Friday for test results 3 days for results No one took proper precautions before I took over this patient because Im the only one who noticed that the patient symptomslabswith viral pneumonia could be covid19 Our infection control nurse told us not to isolate or distance myself from anyone because per CDC guidelines the patient didnt meet the travel criteria or been to any hot spots in the US I told her that I can promise her the CDC will soon be changing those guidelines because travel history will be irrelevant|1 You are insane|0 Yep If we reach that kind of scenario people here are gonna go into a not my problem it wont happen to me it cant happen to me until it does and its too late We should make testing free during this potential epidemic NO ThAtS SoCiAlIsM|1 Also if youve got all these people with a cough coming in for testing lets say 90 of them are negative for COVID but they just spent the afternoon in a room in which 1 out of 10 people are COVID So youve just increased the chance that a healthy person was infected with COVID and will start showing symptoms in the next 2 weeks|1 In an attempt to save face they will now go out of their way to hide new infections This will be a disaster for the Cambodian peopleTheres no way this dictator is going to show the world and his people that he made a huge mistake Its simply not going to happen Hell make them all disappear before he does that|0 Even that is worrying not much is being done either now or being planned in the next week assuming that even this isnt speculationWe are 13 days behind italy they have one of the best healthcare systems in the world and even their hospitals are overloaded Their deathrate is currently around 67 probably due to this and that they cant test enough people If that happens here the deaths could rise to 50000 easily in my opinion and its obvious whos fault that would beSo actually people are right to critisize the goverment for taking little to no action otherwise they will fall into the trap of waiting until its too late|0 They regularly close NYC schools for bad weather Cant be that hard|0 Yes Ive been hearing these rumors from multiple sources for a couple hours too Taking them with a grain of salt for now but wouldnt be surprised Its either a massive troll or were in for a rude awakening tomorrow|0 I was in Taiwan at one point and caught a cold I went out and bought masks because I had seen so many people using them I figured it was the courteous thing to do in that culture I am from the US and I felt weird wearing it at first but I got used to it|1 Same I cant believe she said that kids should stay in school and it is a good place to learn social distancing|1 This is why local news exists Tip them off Be interviewed behind a screen to maintain anonymity Local investigative journalists live for stories like this|1 Except that is patently false at least in NJ which you would know if you had read the article Kind of pathetic Im actually disappointed in you|0 Researchers in Seattle are pegging the estimated numbers at 350550 already Your estimate is actually quite low|0 He is a very nasty man|0 I pray that you and your people will get through it buddy as much as anyone whos been affected around the world Stay safe|1 You have my sympathies I contracted EBV in middle age too No clue how I got it but it was the worst two months of my life and I didnt start feeling normal until 4 months after symptoms appeared I was extremely lucky not to have longterm complications My doctor was pleasantly surprised that I bounced back as well as I did with only a few longerterm complications ie mouth sores that took many weeks to subsideHaving gone to college and lived in a fraternity house where several people got mono over the years I assumed I had been exposed to the virus when I was younger and had been essentially asymptomatic like many are Boy was I wrongAll I can say is that if an effective vaccine for EBV is ever developed I would advise everyone to get immunized You do not want to mess with EBV when youre older|1 In a note seen by The Associated Press the US Postal Service informed its counterparts around the world on Tuesday that it is experiencing significant difficulties in dispatching letters parcels and express mail to China including Hong Kong and Macau because most of its supplier airlines have suspended their flights to those destinations|0 We really need stuff like this Thank you and I sincerely wish nothing but the best for you your family and your friends Well get through this together |1 Not patroning a restaurant is not racism Really|1 People were doing that long before this weekend The man who just brought it to Hawaii returned to the island back on March 8 Is everyone an idiot for going about their life before then No Stfu If the government wasnt going to get serious and mandate people stay home and businesses close people were going to continue to act like its all normal Which is exactly what 99 of the country was doing up until last Thursday|0 Thank you for your thoughtful response to this and other questions here today|1 So many fires In a country of 13 billion people like 45 fires in houses is massiveReally is|1 Was Obamacare suppose to help ok this regard At least for ambulance fees|1 Im not going to a hot zoneAnd also life would go on if everyone took an reasonable and moderate responsive attitude instead and either acting like its just a cold or panicking|1 I dont think the passengers are on the bus at this point hopefully he put one on later|1 Its not a London problem its a Boris Johnson problem Theyre putting all their eggs in one basket with this strategy If theyre wrong this is going to end up worse than the first day of the Somme with the vast majority of the victims being the elderly|0 No Im disabled I like to joke Im her kept woman lol|1 I worked in an office years ago where one guy came to work and bragged about what a great work ethic he had because he had strep and still came to workEVERYONE yelled at him and the boss sent him him home There is nothing noble about it and we really need to squash that inane mindset Its selfish and harmful to othersAnd an underlying problem with my country in general US|0 Youre being optimistic|1 Wear mask wear gloves stay at a distance become a germaphobe wipe down surface with Clorox often Or just luck it out just remember kids are silent vectors|1 Good Less chance of spread Glad to you most in China are taking this seriously It should help a lot|1 OK you cant extrapolate from the outliers The median time to symptoms is one week the media time to ARDS is eight days The vast majority will get sick within two weeks However there is no guarantee that in the initial phases it will hit enough vulnerable people to impact the health system Sure there will be a few extra cases of severe pneumonia in young people but until it hits people over 70 the death rate is low enough to be masked by normal pneumonia in older people For all we know it might have been running rampant in schools for a couple of months|0 Disinfo that its just a flu|0 With the witnesses being called to Whitehouse midway from House hearing am sure the administration would be in denial mode for many more months|1 GOP motto Fuck you Ive got mine|0 It is supply and demand It makes sense but they will not say make your own I am working on how to make my own for my older parents it is not impossible jesus christ This zealot view of the state and business is outrageous Look at history and see why and how the spanish flu was stoppes|0 Lol Bloomberg isnt a dem hes a right wing authoritarian racist fascist Biden is most certainly losing his mind though Bernie has accomplished a lot of great things but whatever|1 The problem is that the quarantine centers are incredibly crowded so if people go in who dont have the disease they might catch it while theyre there Without testing many common mild illnesses could easily be mistaken for being infected|0 You mean hundreds of cases Its already over man USA Is fucked|0 Get your Dads Vitamin D level tested Lots of solid info online about antiinflammatory effects of VitD Below is a link to an NIH article VitD also plays a critical role in lung function lungs having VitD receptors Its important to know actual VitD levels and the test is very affordablex200B httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6164284httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6164284|1 Agree I hope their plan comes to pass and hundreds of thousands die Not sure what exactly they are expecting from the public a pat on the back Especially if they turn out to be wrong on even one of their many many risky assumptions|0 Things are about to go very dark Most shows are done out if new York and Hollywood two huge hotspots I expect almost everything to shut down|1 Im as Pro2A as a person could possibly be but this isnt a situation where government is really stepping on our rights Its a global pandemic theres no opting out and not participating The Ultra2A crowd youre worried about people with 50 firearms is likely the opposite more leaning toward prepper mentality that takes this very seriously|0 THIS IS A POST ABOUT ITALY NOT THE US Americans please stop spamming everywhere about how unprepared your country isIts not just your problem and btw Ive seen this text a thousand times on this sub already Just stop please Get back when you have the updated info though|0 This is the source Id like to point out that this is an actual BBC sourceHeres a tweet from the reporter SourcehttpstwittercomHadiNilistatus1233437534744608768|1 Is any chance the virus can be carried by mosquitoes|1 My uncle who is a doctor that no test is 100 even for the Flu and that sometimes multiple tests need to be done to confirm|0 2174 cases in the US 330000000 people in the US 000066 of the US is infected I think it aged just fine|0 heres a studyhttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoifull101002jmv25689afR that found median of 14 days from first symptoms to death for all ages with 115 days for people over 70 and 20 days for people under 70 deaths in italy would be heavily skewed right now if this holds true|0 I am imagining a scenario where there is no law enforcement or legal system left at least temporarily to say that to|0 She cancelled book club with the COVID excuse because she just wanted to go get shittered in the pub There was never any safety involved|0 Got to give credit to Doug Ford for closing schools|1 Shouldnt knowingly endangering public health be more of a criminal situation as well as civilBut Im kind of crazy I want to see CEOs and their boards go to prison for doing illegal dumping and creating Superfund sites too |0 Thank you so much|1 I think the public deserves an accurate picture of what is going on so that more people take this seriously I feel that we risk more infections without knowing who is infectedI am personally very sick with all the symptoms and have been since Thursday My doctor agrees that its likely given the people Ive been around and my symptoms but he cannot get me tested No I dont plan on going out I have quarantined since my symptoms began This isnt about my ability to leaveThe massive issue is that I have tried explaining this to the people I have been in contact with one runs a nursing home and they do not take me seriously Instead Im told but you havent tested positive tell me when your test comes back I would have agreed with you until I went through this|0 Please read up before you post that No one is being forceable quarantined there People are free to come and go as as they want Troops are there to provide food and water to those that self quarantined and to help clean buildings|1 It has much cleaner page httpsthreadreaderappcomthread1238837158007447558htmlhttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1238837158007447558html|1 There is a reason they are so rich|1 Buying 2 packs of spaghetti 2 boxes of rice 2 boxes of eggs 2 milk cartons etc is perfectly fine as in 23 pieces also depends on your household As a single household 2 of everything is enough for 23 weeks for me Only fresh veggies are an issue since I have a small fridge Larger families need more obviously The issue is with people who purchase 10 of everything and empty the shelves for a day or two so other people have to go out several times and expose themselves several times to get the basic necessities|1 Ive seen multiple papers and studies speculating on this point so far and saying theres a good possibility the R0 and transmission of the virus will dropoff in warmer weather Obviously its too early to confirm any of this in a real world scenario but the possibility of it is definitely there and would be good news moving into the summer|1 Its a shame that the US government is acting so nonchalant about this This is truly just how Wuhan was like just 2 months ago Shameful|0 True However cases outside of China are going to have a bias towards being healthier individuals as the chronically ill are not likely to be traveling I think this was something I read in one of the Lancet articlesAlso Jan 11 is many weeks later than the start of the spread in Wuhan IIRC there were deaths in Wuhan reported in local news as early as Jan 4thI think it will take several more weeks before we really see how bad things are internationally|0 Im so glad that our Donald Trump Idiocracy virus is as contagious as COVID19 is Boris the chump Johnson|1 I guess it might actually help keep them from touching their face Whatever works man|1 Thank you|1 Fuck man Anxiety about this is real Keeping you guys in my prayers Didnt Snohomish county declare one King county I have relatives in King County Im in Nor Cal the first infection of unknown origin in the US so its pretty intense whats coming out of the news here too Good luck to you guys and good luck to OP down south in LA|1 It does bring me a bit of comfort knowing I live WS state that being said my community is a retirement type Most of the populace is over 50|1 If the antibody was originally found in humans does this change anything It was also tested on ferrets for what that is worth|1 And trump just said hell think about closing the border yikes|0 Because my blood test results are coming back under the threshold but I still get it from my doctor because it has health benefits|1 Because all young people live with older people and none live alone See how that worksA little common sense goes a long way This sub has just turned into hot takes that will end up harming people and causing panic|0 Hold up can we take a wee moment to say how on point this fellas eyebrows are God damn The man must be a master with a pair of tweezers|0 Yes the people will not resist when the government keep on brainwashing you about what good the government does and hiding all the bad things unless there is a big problem come outI hope is this virus outbreak|0 Thanks for the reply|1 Can you ask her about the type of fabric that is recommended Im curious about how consistent the recommendations are|1 that place is beyond frightening|0 This is the closest well ever come to making work from home standard for professions that dont require a physical presence We all better take this opportunity to push for it|1 Yes|1 Im from EU but vaccine thats avaible to every country i personally think that 13 is the max and after that its going to get tested about half month and vola its ready|1 Guaifensin is mentioned a lot on prepper boards You want to make sure youre not using one that includes a suppressant If youre buying brand name youd want plain Mucinex instead of Mucinex DM Amazon has large bottles of the generic for less than 10 They also suggest stocking up on generic Imodium and pediatric electrolytes bc diarrhea is often associated with Coronavirus Dollar tree sells generic pediatric electrolytes Grab some extra thermometers there if you goVery little difference between Pedialyte and Gatorade Gatorade is cheap as dirt and tastes better|1 But you have just clarified the immediate public facing measures They are part of a number of measures that will be communicated at the relavent time In the background there is a substantial amount being done around clearing NHS beds sourcing kit creating testing groups incident groups from within the civil service creating more available testing resources etc In the list of things that have a large impact closing schools and large mass gathering army high in the list For example they said only a 5 benefit would be gained from stopping football matches etc Compare that to the potential bliss in jobs and the issues that causes in the long run It has nothing to do with me being naively optimistic but everything to do with you being shortsighted Locking down a country specifically bat the wrong time is like using a sledgehammer when what you need is screw driver|1 In theory yes In practice once you make it to wholesale level your individual actions literally dont matter Its piss in the ocean at that level|1 Much needed Thank you|1 It weird because the normal lines in the sand mean nothing The MSM was downplaying it and lefties were saying travel restrictions were racist Trump was down playing it CDC was making false assertions no community level outbreaks while not even testing for it the state dept questionably evacd patients and the photos revealed they were wearing their n95 masks incorrectly lol huge cluster Exactly why I dont want the government anywhere near me I guess I can understand the media and trump trying to downplay things to an extent |0 I dont understand how there can be more recovered than infected is south korea do advamced in technology that tje people recpver before they even get the disease|0 Nah we need our government to fucking step up and do something I dont have a college education but Ive been following rcoronavirus since under 100k and literally told my grandma everything that was going to happen since January Even bought her a full face 3M respiratory mask off of amazon She said it was a waste of money at the time and just now today said it was a good idea and thanked me for it But unfortunately followed up with that shes surprised with all of the closings of business weve literally watched this virus creep up on us this whole year and are shocked that were now apart of this situation The US government should of had testing kits out the ass they should of been hoarding test kits since January kinda like that asshat with the hand sanitizer I dont wish death or illness on anyone but I do believe in sacrifices for the greater good and if Trump got the virus I feel like he would act accordingly until he has experienced the virus first hand Edit Spelling Sorry pissed off and on mobile bad combination|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Whomever is selling that is asking for a price gouging fine of 10000 This shit is illegal|0 Aaa yes Every person getting tested had to wear a mask There were 4 people working there 2 testing 2 handling the incoming patents and paperwork Everyone had masks and gloves the ones doing the testing had full clean suits on as well as gloves masks and plastic face shields The room where they were testing was fairly small but had 3 air purifiers running all the time as well as a abundant supply of hand sanitizer and wipes for everyone to use|1 This is exactly what happened to me this week with strep and all Negative but dry coughing 1015 fever sore throat and lost my voice as well Almost certain we already had it|0 Well to be fair it was a turning point just not in the direction we may have thought|1 And when there isnt 100k dead globally BECAUSE we did social distancing point out how the curve flattened when we began taking action|1 Exactly what I thought but after the article where the company threatened to sue over a valve I figured the parts could all be modified ever so slightly to not infringe copyright while still reproducing them|0 Recovered means nothing Stop wasting your time with the recovered bullshit Many recovered people test positive or die laterRecovered doesnt mean safe|0 Wow He has an actual female wife|1 WHat the fuck 5 more When |0 Meh Ill bite troll Care to share sources for situations where peoples free speech was under attack and guns protected that right You cant because they dont exist The guns protect our rights line is a stupid excuse for holding on to a juvenile power fantasy Speech is attacked via politics and corporate consolidation the remedy to which never has been and never will be guns|1 Fuck is the west coast going to end up like this I am hearing that there might be over 20 potental cases of Corona on the West Coast now|0 Oh man you are so funny Nice googling|1 This is splitting hairs especially when the article links to the authored paper and APNews is probably one of the more TRUSTED sources available anymore|1 Everything goes I could smell weed before cant miss that smell|1 Exactly And if anything its worse than ever Its not even popular from what I can tell|0 The CDC has 15k employed They are too blame for their bullshit response True corruption|0 sorry its madeup I just thought its too fake to be misunderstood as true Sorry for the confusion|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ive always been a fan of calling things by their proper scientific designation personally or otherwise official designation by a qualified authority such as the WHO IE Cannabis not Marijuana plus theres the muddying of waters because this isnt the first Coronavirus that went epidemic SARS for example But given how the news media likes to dumb things down especially in the US I know theyre not going to start calling it COVID19Its just a pet peeve of mine Of course sometimes different countries have official designations Ex Acetaminophen US vs Paracetamol UKOn the dumbing down re media note I am reminded of a scene in an HBO movie Live From BaghdadProducer Is this good Sign that says WAR IN THE GULFTed Turner No Most Americans will probably think youre referring to the Gulf of Mexico Say Persian Gulf|0 Good luck |1 Enlighten me Where would it be stored then if its not on a database|1 Oh by the way u talk I highly doubt youHelp the homeless But oook if u say so I say this because I actually have worked at homeless shelters and spoken to them personallyAnyway they dont Throw money at the homeless problem or else it would have been solved already However what they do do is keep it at bay demonize them and make it worseHow do they make their lives miserable I dont even knw where to start Incarceration for being homeless deliberate gentrification lack of housing lack of employment dirty abusive unsafe shelters with lack of many necessary resources lack of empathysympathy lack of value and respect for human life lack of gratitude for veterans encourage and allow law enforcement to abuse and constantly displace homeless people wherever they manage to set up I can go onThere was even a guy who was building them actual mini houses for free so they can have a place to live even if it was off the beaten path n everytime law enforcement would come and destroy them a couple weeks laterI dont think you were ever truly homeless or else u would know these things I suggest maybe u watch a documentary or two Though I doubt even then you would care at all|0 The second round of deadly Spanish flu took well over a year to happen|0 In Italy a doctor said that their hospitals are so overwhelmed that they cant let all sick people in and they have to decide who they send back home to die basically And they prefer to let younger people in who are in serious condition compared to older people like a 70 year old for example because the chances of survival for the 70 year old are too slim compared to the younger citizen They dont have beds and equipment for both so they would send the 70 year old home even if he is very ill at that point Its crazy what is going on in this world right now|0 As an aside I have been watching BBC News 24 via VPN and their coverage has been meh at best and doubt they will run a report like this as it would lead to their HK and CN bereaus most likely getting evicted and headaches with the UK Gov budget cut |1 Same people who were saying its just a flu or stop fear mongering If you dont like this sub stop reading it|0 Were all a bit worried Thats normal and helpful because it prompts us to act Im proud of you for warning your family Some young people arent taking it seriously which is a problem They may contribute to the spread and put others at risk|0 You can checkout any time you like But you can never leave|1 Hey I have been doing this since the last post I even let my computers run pretty much to the max usage I looked up the projects and it appears they arent doing anything with coronavirus Its all other projects Thats fine and all but I feel like this post is sort of misleading|1 Nice joke but this is COVID19 Please feel free to repost to rChinaFlu|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 reddit hero D lol|1 I think almost half of Americans have high blood pressure and that can make coronavirus worse if you get it|0 Checkout rCoronavirusJapan The bill just passed and will be enacted Friday and the full details on if parents really will get paid will be announced then hopefully|1 More likely they werent aware they had them until really weird and severe pneumonia turned up in their emergency room They had no reason to expect such a spread and scarce resources for scanning for it This will happen in a bunch of countries that do too little screening you notice when cases go critical because that demands attention and is less ambiguous|0 How can someone with symptoms and in the local vicinity of those quarantined from the Diamond Princess not meet testing criteria This blows my mind|1 Theyre telling us theres no evidence of community spread but I and many many others are telling you for a fact that is absolute bullshit Part of the problem is the Trump administration has pretty much locked down communication from organizations like the CDC Theyve put a ton of effort into avoiding the release of potentially damaging information and it seems like its going to have some pretty seirous consequencesOn The Media actually did a really good piece on this where they play clips from the CDC teleconference calls before and after the Trump task force was created Its pretty disconcerting Its here in case anyone cares httpswwwwnycstudiosorgpodcastsotmepisodesonthemediacoveringpandemicwheninstitutionsgodark|1 It sounds like theres gunshots in the first and last videos|1 holy shit I live close to NRH|0 Unfortunately not I had a conversation with colleges it went a little like this I am not going to self isolate unless I know I have coronavirus why would I need time off for just a cold I could have a cold stay at home for a week go back to work catch coronavirus and have to self isolate again I can not afford to have that much time off SSP is not enough Out of over 20 of us only 4 will be following the guidelines These people are my friends I know their situations more needs to be done to encourage people to stay put Whether that is more incentive with higher SSP bills being deferred or strict penalties for breaking the guidelines is not for me to decide Unfortunately it is something that needs addressing by the government asap|1 The US like I said|1 Im sorry but this virus could kill millions of people if we dont slow it down and human lives are more important than the American economy|0 I hope we get some news on Europes capacity but its impossible to find any it seemsWell just keep making it up then like you have been in the rest of the thread|1 Honestly I assume it is like SIDS where they just cannot get detailed enough information either because of technological limitations or a lack of knowledge about the case in question A big part of science is coming to terms with how little we know relative to what we could|1 Wow Literally you are located in the same city as the CDC and you cant get tested We are playing with fire right now and its dry season out there OP I hope you get answers and I hope you feel better|1 You may be interested in thishttpswwwconsumerorghkwsennewsspecials2020maskdiytipshtml|1 Nope all the panic atm is caused 50 by people who dont have any clue and react to the news then there are other 50 are because they really are in dangerBut the End of the world was more verbal than actual concern like i said it will get twice as bad it is now But once every thing get closed and stays that way longer than week well be okayIf not there will be even bigger problem than now there is one good side stockmarketBut what i am saying is my personal speculation by research and informationIt depends where you live if you live in area that is highly infected or under qarantine dont hesitate to stay at home Also if not i suggest still to be very aware and not go any place where are high risk Its deadly virus not an flu|1 This is perhaps the biggest take home message that there is some portion of the population perhaps 1 perhaps 01 that retains a substantial viral count even after 6 weeksThis is precisely how many earlier viruses work examples include Hepatitis C rabies in some species Hepatitis B varicella HIV and the feline HIV and leukemia viruses|1 Yep Ive noticed this before when he suggested there was no reason to question the CCP figures Which of course theres always reason to question the CCP figures If theyve knobbled the good doctor I lose all faith in human nature|1 Exactly I dont think there is any one age group that is specifically more of a problem than another I think anyone refusing to take this seriously or living their lives without effect are the people causing problems|0 What page number|1 Flu bro in the house|0 Does anyone know what the treatment is Like if you had it didnt realize and treated like a regular cold would it just pass Do you need antibiotics I noticed alot have masks hooked up any idea|1 Probably if they thought that this situation was likely to persist they would but it would be a very expensive solution for a shortterm solution especially since once things get back to normal just sticking stuff on passenger planes will be a lot cheaper|1 This is basically how conservatives across the US are going to react to catastrophic climate change tooWhy didnt the experts stop this from happening Isnt that their jobsWell they tried but you continuously not only didnt believe them but voted in politicians that refused to take action on climate change in order to protect their fossil fuel campaign contributionsGod damn intellectual elites|1 Honestly Based on how close you were to all this you may already be infectedSomeone needs to record these public collapses on their smartphone and get that shit uploaded America is not going to fully understand what we are dealing with until those kinds of things make it onto CNN FOX etc Weve been seeing public collapses in leaked vids from China since late January 2020 edit and from Iran since Feb 2020 South Korea where are your videos Link them here Edit 2 And we saw at least one posted from a shopping mall in Hong Kong a few weeks ago also|0 Older doctors could tend to noncovid serious cases for example someone with a serious allergic reaction|0 ZhengzhouLuoyang I am curious of what kind of neighborhood you are living in It seems you live in a new developed neighborhood People has relatives suicide in some empty building just wont happenBy the way do you still live here now what is your experience during the lock down|0 So the 2019nCoV already killed more people then the swine flu|0 Why is everyone so surprisedThe CDC has known from the start that 6080 of the population will be getting Corvid19 They in fact have been hoping it speeds up so it doesnt slow the economy Its happening in the USA and its even happening in Canada How can anyone think that this is just a mistake On media they may be saying containment containment but open borders and unrestricted travel and social events gives their hand away If they actually cared about the lives of people they would have had a large scale quarantine for 30 days a month agoThey are even telling people to not wear masks because it wont stop the virus If everyone wore one things would slow down But it is true that they havent prepared or stocked up on enough masks for all the emergency people But what about the millions of people forced to quarantine at home with sick family and no masks or protection The writing is on the wall The vast majority of the population will be fine and most children will be ok too I suggest everyone goes and spends time with their older parents and grandparents before they no longer get to see them again I doubt a lot of them will be voting this NovemberEdit grammar|0 Stop fear mongering The article flat out says its way premature This shit is scary enough dont fucking say this should worry parents you idiotLiterally no proof this has occurred or will yet So dont add to the hysteria|0 This is total garbage Im italian and Ive been having fever coughing and respiratory problems for almost a week now and when I went to the hospital they said that I might have it but they wouldnt mind testing me because I hadnt been in direct contact with anyone who was diagnosed and because the tampons arent enough and cant be wasted Calling the emergency number doesnt do anything either it keeps saying that all the lines are overflowed and to try and call later Unless youre in really bad conditions and I mean like respiratory failure they wont test you theyll just prescribe you some regular medicine and give you some bullshit diagnosisSorry for the wall of textTLDR They say all this to make it seem like they care but the reality is totally different|0 True But as China becomes richer|1 Table 2 of this metastudy might helphttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6815659The formatting of tables is kind of broken but it shows that flu mortality rate goes up by more than an order of magnitude 1030x higher when you compare 65 age deaths to 65 age deaths Note the rates cited in this study are population fatality rates including everyone not infected not case fatality rates|0 Lets hope that he did not have VIP access|0 Fingers crossed that you and your family will avoid that eventuality in the coming months|0 Im guessing the issue is they are also running other tests at the same time that they are testing for COVID19 ie Flu Strept etc|0 Why isnt the US calling on Taiwan to ramp up their production to help with the supply chain armageddon|1 These people are scientists and they probably made their research based on official data Data collected by testing and confirming that patient has this particular virus I dont doubt the research What worries me is the amount of people who went undiagnosed They couldve recovered or be dead by now Either way theyre not the part of statistics So we really dont have the full picture here|0 The worst part of this is that everyone approaches without PPE Where are they now|0 I just got one for my comment above after giving in to the OP earlier I think they are like those take a penny leave a penny containers at gas stations You need one|1 A lot of other companies are canceling as well httpswwwwashingtonpostcombusiness20200228coronaviruscanceltravelIts a really hard time and decision To top it off a teacher from our kids school is getting back from India I get we cant live in a bubble its just getting to close to home|1 So money is the only thing that prevents the CDC from acting in a useful and ethical manner Wowhow easily we are fooled Btw Trump didnt fire anyone at the CDC so that fake news can stop Some top officials left and werent replaced Somehow this morphed into TRUMP FIRED EVERYONE WHO COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS by places like the HuffPost and other celeb type websites|1 are they still piling up twenty thousand sharks a day without their top fin|0 We closed the barn door after the horse bolted Its too late for this to be effective but I still think it will be necessary if any semblance of containment is reached|1 Optimistic but be careful not to get carried away|1 Vegas seems to be doing ok The whole city is shutting down and every grocery store has an hour long line to buy shit and the shelves are empty but no news about crazy outbreaks of the virusMaybe people here are taking it more serious than other places given all of the above are true|0 I have a an acquaintance who is Iranianshe is constantly travelling and has been treated not just like a terrorist but a whole network of them anytime she tries to enter or exit any country Shes so used to it that now shes pretty immune to the treatment she receives and laughs it off afterwardsAnytime I see her I always ask about her recent treatment upon arrival and departure from any countries shes been to and we always have a good laugh because thats all you can doI even suggested she carry with her a laminated FAQ and she could just point to the answers or provide the booklet instead The FAQ would answer questions shes been asked such as What do you know about Nuclear technology Who were you travelling with in Europe How did you meet the German and French girl whom you travelled with to Thailand Why are you not wearing a headscarf How can you afford to travel|1 Governments Battle Plan is unveiled|0 This was my fear all along I had hoped the Chinese numbers were real but my gut said otherwise Whats happening in Italy France Sweeden etc is nothing short of eye opening I hope it encourages those that still have time to do something to do something|1 This dude runs a solid channel Pay attention to medcram too|1 And people who care enough to wear masks are accused for making people panic or spreading virus|0 Love the analogy|1 An actual useful post Thank you|1 Countries can do good and bad things Its not circlejerking|0 And not just those with the virus Other people will suffer when hospitals get overwhelmed|0 True except for the 2nd c word Cringe worthy to a female|1 A breakout occurred in a psych ward so it would be expected a large number of patients have an underlying mental health issue|1 Boris has just destroyed they hospitality business in the UK with his adviceHow can I run a restaurant from home We have been promised SSP from day 1 but Im afraid that still leaves me miles short of my financial responsibilities Maybe his balls have been squashed from riding his bike too much|0 Be grateful you have brand new 26 billion Ford aircraft carriers F35 800 military bases around the world so that we can support Terrorists and kills tens of thousands of civilians every year sarcasm|0 training exercise for SarsCov We are dealing with Sars I do not understand the denial This is a much more contagious version of Sars Sars was at 10 death rate When all is said and done that is what we can expect with this|0 Lets look at the 2 different strategies1 Pretend everything is ok The China StrategyWe continue the bull run in the markets Life remains normal until it inevitably turns into a pandemic Looking at whats happening in China Hospitals are overrun Medical staff cant deal with the massive influx People who are unable to be hospitalized die People who are inevitably ignored by exhausted medical staff die Mass Panic is enormous Economy is in ruins2 Slow it downAirports are severely restricted The economy takes a dive People are annoyed until the pandemic spreads The pandemic is awful but its been slowed by 13 months The influx of the sick is manageable The annoyance turns to concern but everything is under control Theres no mass panicThe economy will be negatively affected no matter what The difference is the number of people who will die|0 This is missing some vital information How many people died in each city|0 Realistically it would be impossible to evict all of these people and even if they could theyd still be facing a colossal humanitarian crisis of a sudden influx of thousands of homeless people and families during a pandemic All of the doublethink and newspeak in England cant erase thatWeve got the power here boyyo|0 good thing no one gives a shit about your opinion attacking someones appearance is lazy and you only come off as insecure|0 No local transmissions yet though Just people coming into contact with it overseas then travelling home|0 IIRC the mask isnt really useful unless you have the virus in which case it helps to stop the spread of the virus to other people|0 I have my wife newborn and two other kids on lockdown right now No one leaves except me and only for supplies and work though probably not much longer Dallas TX|1 Now we are screwed because corona has slowed them down enough for bullets to hit them|0 That makes sense Just been a tight feeling in my chest and Im hyperaware of my breathing|1 Our government is recalling people overseas For example all overseas internships and exchange programmes are suspended|0 Give me a single example I am not taking peoples word for it because I personally have been accused of being a Russian bot on multiple occasions There is an epidemic of paranoia on the topic currently|0 Sure Here is an excerpt from WikipediaIn 2010 the United States Department of Agriculture USDA reported that 235 million Americans live in food deserts meaning that they live more than one mile from a supermarket in urban or suburban areas and more than 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas6Food deserts tend to be inhabited by lowincome residents with reduced mobility this makes them a less attractive market for large supermarket chains7 Food deserts lack suppliers of fresh foods such as meats fruits and vegetables Instead the available foods are often processed and high in sugar and fats which are known contributors to the United States obesity epidemic8|1 Thats what the consensus is for March madness No spectators but continue it as planned Id be okay with that honestly|1 What data have you seen that shows that there are millions infected That seems absurdly high|0 Because theyd stacked things so conservatively that upping to 25 gives a sense of the bound of that conservative estimate Ive spent time looking at exponentials related to Italy and you have to give some margins because even if you use real numbers from China and Italy and project then elsewhere your brain starts to convince yourself how could 50000 people die in a single day in 2 weeks I must be more conservative Exponentials in the real world are fucking nuts|0 Would you consider coronavirus to be an incurable STD Im wondering this for a couple of reasons First according to the Guardianhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar06coronavirusfactswhatisthemortalityrateandisthereacurecovid19 there is no known cure but the treatment they describe sounds a lot like HIV and Herpes treatment options Second There is a mechanismhttpsstdcarrierscomregistrysearchaspx in place to help warn the public about known carriers of STDs so it might make sense to apply a similar approach to Coronavirus|1 This man wants to destroy tyranny and you call him annoying and ranty What the fuck look at yourself|0 Im wearing a mask and open carrying a handgun at the same time if youre legally allowed to do this I would recommend it as it dissuades anyone from approaching you or saying anything to you|1 Almost like basing an entire governmental structure on graft doesnt work|1 I go to UC Davis where we actually have had coronavirus issues and they arent doing anything No wipes for desks or hand sanitizer or masks nothing The university doesnt seem to have any concern for its staff or student body and are just waiting for it to explode before doing anything Im pretty sure were gonna have a huge outbreak by next week or so I want to stay home but its also two weeks until finals and I graduate I dont want to stop now|1 He tested Negative|0 How hard would it be to just limit it to 23 per customer|0 Sure Major Poopy but to point out I did say every time I heard theres a vaccine readyIf it has to undergo testing and clinical trials as they all have to do its not ready for widespread deployment|0 Large Telecom here more than 300k employees Our leadership not HR made the call If youre even mildly sick work from home If you or family are medically at risk work from homeAlso recalled all employees visiting overseas back home and all travel is restricted|0 Can we please cancel all cruises as well Asking for Puerto Rico|1 Do me a favor Please report this post and let the mods decide if Im being irresponsible|1 Nobody cares Stay offended|1 Well last I checked the HKU Medicine Dean has already come out in various interviews to recommend wearing masks at all times I think he even attended the press conference He hasnt censured or arrested so its fineIts only Carrie Lam thats holding out in terms of the law Note that this may not necessarily be under her control as much as we might want to blame her about it National Peoples Congress has tried to interfere in that HK court case and without higher approval Carrie Lam likely cant do anything or say anything regarding that case|1 Whatever youre smoking you should give it up not good for the lungs|0 im in the uk my school got shut down for a few days good luck to you all|1 You cheeky bastard|0 No public health A bit worseBut its not as if our public health has been considerable effective|1 My regulars that I see daily were the shining light today for me We even had one bring us pizza to eat for lunch as we were unable to take full breaks I honestly hope the people who have been rude think before they speak|1 Styxhexenhammer666 is good for any updates|1 You have already witnessed this type of virus emerge in your lifetime Of the 7 strains of coronavirus that infect humans SARS was discovered in 2003 2 additional common cold viruses in 2004 and 2005 MERS in 2012 and now this in 2019 Add in new influenza strains and you have H1N1 swine flu pandemic in 2009 and H5N2 bird flu epidemic in the US in 2015 H1N1 is now a circulating seasonal flu its in the flu vaccine this yearI think theres some recency bias and this outbreak will eventually be looked back upon the same way the 2003 SARS epidemic 2009 swine flu epidemic and 2014 Ebola outbreak are Youll remember it from the news cycles but eventually itll just be one more thing thats part of history|0 Misleading titleAn estimated 179 of those infected with coronavirus will remain asymptomatic for the duration of the infectionThats from a population heavily skewed towards the 5070 year old demographic Why didnt you specify this was the Diamond Princess|0 The its just a flu people should shut the fuck up Its evident at this point that its not just a flu anymore|0 Its common in campuses During finals week if you scream out the window everyone else will too|0 Ncov doesnt need papers to enter USthats the problem though isnt it That we do not stop the traveling of potentially infected people|0 There needs to be retribution for this China should pay|0 I can think of tens of countries id rather be sick in outside the US|0 Cell phones are dirty but for a lot of people they arent an infection vectorThis is what you said initially but now Im seeing that you wash your hands if you havent washed them in the last 5 minutes Thats not what I would think a lot of people doI mean youre probably relatively safe but maybe you should read some research about how washing your hands too much can be counterproductive Germs can survive longer on dry skin and you need to let your skin to do its own thing in order for it to work well|1 Lol doubt itEdit I agree it SHOULD happen But theres not a chance in hell it will|1 The difference between Google News and this site is that Google News is actually an aggregator with an extremely complex codebase behind itThis website is not that Its just grabbing data from an already curated source and wrapping a UI around He didnt even make the map he just embedded BNO newss map on the websiteThere are many of these websites out right now In fact Johns Hopkins made their data publicly available on GitHub to make things like this even easier to make Just yesterday some guy made a Twitter bot that tweets live case and death updates using that repository Not to mention this website is often behind on its numbers The fact that hes 17 isnt really that special either I was doing freelance software development my senior year of high school and knew sophomores who were working on startups A lot of people who go into CS or software dev start out pretty young|1 Or theyre just after the end of the world and the downfall of governments is only a side effect that they dont really care about Theres a specific definition to terrorism that shouldnt be worn out and diluted|0 Man I really hate people on reddit Everyone is a fucking expert on viruses and pandemics|0 Should we build a list to report irresponsible people|0 It will not Dont be so sure|1 Travel is mostly nonessential People travel just because they are bored basically Yes even for work|1 This part has been hard for me I have to admit I dont like feeling suspicious and worried about everyone I see around me I especially dont like the total hostility that breaks out when someone is coughing A poor lady on the train the other day choked on some water for a moment and people were getting visibly angry|0 If this is true I love this creative thinking We need something like that here Canada|1 I want to eat my alarmist warnings I want to be wrong and tell everybody how wrong I am Could you please link me to where you found this information That would be great news and would show me how unneceaarily crazy I have been about this|0 I am exactly the same Im from the UK and strangely the people I work with are just laughing it off and taking it lightly but every spare moment I have is researching this virus and asking everyone around me about it I hope this calms down for all of us|1 Not like in the healthcare system We are talking rites of passage 36 hour shifts because back in my day we had to so now its your turn Not to mention the evidencesupported risk of death that occurs during handoffs leading hospitals to stick to as little amount of shift changes possible This means 12 hour shifts are the norm which is bearable 3x a week but will easily become 100 hour shifts very soon during this crisis|0 With respect to testing it takes 2448 hours to get a test result back from the lab If the process is in fact this long then what kind of screenings are actually done in airports Surely this procedure lacks quality filtering of patients Im guessing Secondly in countries nearby ChinaItaly where the numbers are now said to be low Do you think like how the count boomed in Italy within a week the same is going to happen to neighbouring countries as well Only because the tests are not being done efficiently and hence affecting the numbers|1 Yeah I get that part|1 Yes the 18 year old is as of today Will show up in tomorrows data |1 I didnt say that I am just saying that this is a specific super spreader event at a specific location which is much easier to clamp down on and much easier to identify the infected because you can just test anyone who was in the area or near the spreader If this was 51 random cases in a single day throughout the city with no clear cause of infection that would be different That indicates a level of community transmission where you REALLY have to worry If suddenly 51 people got sick from a mega church in the USA we would know very quickly Individual cases might be slipping through the cracks here or there but 51 people infected in one church Thats a huge deal anywhere|0 Its ironic that first country to infected by coronavirus is also the first nation where black death spread to Europe from|0 Should be 100Fuck China Fuck everything they stand for|0 Yes we are in the beginning chapters of Stephen Kings The Stand Well all meet up in Las Vegas for a showdown of good vs evil Oh those themes are much older than 20 years btw|1 Clothing and makeup trends are pretty different between Chinese Korean and Japanese people Also they generally look pretty different Its kinda hard to explain but our racist generalizations are pretty accurate|1 My senators stopped listening to their constituents a long time ago and couldnt give a single shit about the health of the country Fuck you Rand and McConnell|0 If campaign rallies stop even if thats a public health benefit prepare for four years of inquiries into whether or not it was politically motivated And who could prove if it is or isnt It might be both|1 So you get infection through your whole body Or you breath it in through your mouth and nose Please elaborate Im really interested to know I always thought and airborne virus was breathed in But now it seems we get it through our legs |1 Maybe I have discredited Jeremy Hunt too much in the past Seems like hes one of a very few who sees the data in realistic terms and the the current government are sitting like lame ducks|0 More like 161000|1 Perhaps i do not know the correct english word for the machine Google translate translates it as SeederAutomated farming is still in the development phase so its absurd to tell someone use an automated planter And even then one still has to be on site to add seed to planters fuel tractors etc You cannot farm from home its that cornsoy has become overused part of the diet that resulted in a lot of negative things like corn syrup being used everywhere and causing bad diet balanceWait how much corn and soy do you think goes to producing corn syrup or processed foods bad diet balanceThats more of people not watching how much they eat and counting calories than there being soy or corn in food Someone living an unhealthy lifestyle and eating an unhealthy diet isnt suddenly going to change everything because they cant eat corn or soy Youre trying to legislate people into being healthy Im saying we stop subsidizing them when we already got more than we needMost field corn is used for animal feed ethanol and export youre talking about a very small percentage that gets used for those things under 10 Corn should never be considered staple foodWhy Its been a staple crop for millennia has a long shelfstorage life like basically every other staple crop really the main reason why the staple crops we have are staple crops in the first place and has many uses animal feed direct consumption fuel flour etcYoure just going we shouldnt do X because you just decided we shouldnt No reason or justification|0 Ohhh I thought that timeline was just to come up with a vaccine so would creating the actual vaccine take say 10 months and the rest of the time for safety trials and mass production|1 I personally think my wife and a already had it she was tested for influenza and it came back positive for influenza type b two days later she was admitted to the hospital with all COVID like systems but no tests so well never know She had Ground Glass found in CT scan increasing levels of lactic acid unable to stay hydrated spiking heart rate severe loss of breath She was hospitalized for 5 days was very sick for about 5 days prior to hospitalization and took about 2 additional weeks to recover|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronavirus Still think this is just the fluhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf87btjstillthinkthisisjusttheflunbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 This would allow for MASSIVE voter fraud and I understand given the circumstances regarding the pandemic but I cannot endorse this|0 Was unsure about this as I do research at Newcastle University and I havent heard about it but looking the official Northumbria uni press release httpnewsroomnorthumbriaacukpressreleasesnorthumbriauniversityprofessordevelopsbreathtestingdevicethatcouldchangecoronavirusdiagnosisaroundtheworld2973899 it seems its a product one of the researchers have been developing since ebola virus and can detect biomarkers that indicate the user has an infection not specifically coronavirus So it is likely it will not be even make it to clinical trials for a while let alone getting rolled out to diagnose coronavirus|0 vilifying have you done researching how many building or facilities in china collapsed over the past 5 years|0 No silly this is the goverment we are talking about They are use to suggesting things happen and then having them happen|0 Im not sure but cavemen figured out how to survive without imports so I think theyll be okay|1 You may want to rethink putting off your schooling|1 I mean what do you expect your friend to do Clearly she doesnt have the money so you want her to just panic without being able to do anything about it|1 China had to weld people into their flats to stop the spread Nothing like that is remotely possible in the US Can you imagine if Trump tried it the screaches would be deafening|0 What you just said is my reply every time someone tells me we are safe Take care of yourself You are much needed in your role with your oncology patients I used to work as an oncology pharmacistwork in IT now I have massive respect for oncology nurses|1 Tell that to dumb guys electing dumb guys|0 This is a very encouraging development Im tempering my excitement however as I would expect the full process to get us to an acceptable approved and widely available vaccine is many months away Heres hoping testing treatment and public health actions to blunt the spread of this thing continue to ramp up vigorously|1 my two centsthe mortality rate from small sample till now is low enough not to burn itself out and high enough to do considerable damage it hits the sweet spotIncubation time is 1015 days means if on day 1 you catch the virus on day 10 you start getting symptoms and discomfort within those 10 days you wouldve contacted and transmitted it to tens of peoplethe timing couldnt be worse Chinese new year is on Saturday more than a billion people will movetransport sorry i cant get the word Might as well spray the virus from a helicopter|0 exactly this mate Im very concerned having friends with severe asthma 2 young children and vulnerable old family I do have mild panic attacks going and reading some of the science shit on rCoronavirus rCOVID19 is a much more fact and level headed sub|0 Haha yeah didnt mean it that strongly Just meant cause the state of emergency issued|1 as with most top down orders in china actual enforcement is done at the local level which is institutionally corrupt this ban will be as effective as the ban on prostitution in china aka completely and totally ineffectual|0 I agree|1 Ah never stop being you rWallStreetBets|1 You would think theyd care more about their aging supporter base being the most atrisk demographic for this shitBut no watch out for those deadly immigrant caravan invasions instead|1 Seriously I just saw this pop up on fastest growing subs and jeez its like everyone here just wants to work themselves into a fear mongering frenzy There may or may not be good information in the posts Im leaving here after I make this comment but every post headline has some doom gloom buzz word|0 My tiny European country of 1 mil population has banned all indoor gatherings of more than 75 people puts people coming from redzones in mandatory quarantine and is even taking measures for football matches and the Sunday church service to be shown on the public channel so people stay the fuck homeFootball matches are to be played behind closed doors but then people run to cafs to watch them We had our first confirmed cases the day before yesterday I dont understand how all these better bigger countries are not taking measures to protect their people If the government acts like everything is fine then all these idiots mimic them|1 Ill look for an update once your kids have missed their amount of allowed unexcused absences Society isnt going to collapse in the next month|0 They are free of cost you are the one spreading disinformationhttpswwwfactcheckorg202003covid19testsdontcostover3000|1 Hoboken is a huge city for bars and night life itll maybe deter so many people from gathering in such tight places|1 How do you not see that hes making a generalized wide statement to make op feel better about being a target for hatred Give the guy a break and dont take his opinion so seriously|0 I swear this was a possible Plague Inc headline Im sure|1 Dankmemes pumps out at least one lol stupid media fear mongering over coronavirus even though it only literally only affects elderly and infirm every day Even if that was true fuck the elderly and infirm amiriteExamples Top 10 last month 92k upvotes httpswwwredditcomrdankmemescommentsezh3qgchilloutguysutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfFrom today 3k upvotes httpswwwredditcomrdankmemescommentsfaddlssneezinginchineseutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfBoth literally say only affects elderly and infirm This sentiment is definitely prevalent Ignorant as fuck on so many levels too|0 Because that would pull frontline health workers away from hospitals in order to care for their children who are the lowest risk group|0 definitely the skiing people because the people who want to cut contact with an infected area arent dumb at all|1 Good for you You pay the bills and have water|1 Bar is already depleted Need a good gig to replenish|1 Lets also not forget the rich are also the ones who can avoid getting infected by this virus They have private cars private jets and apartments with private lifts Even if they do get infected they have access to the best private healthcare|0 After lying for 73 years what is another 8 months really|0 How can you be posting on this sub and not know about the importance of flattening the curve People tend not to die if they are in hospital being treated by well rested staff People die in huge numbers when the hospitals are overwhelmed and old people get left to die with no treatment simply because the staff are obliged to triage and cant be in two places at onceSlowing the infection rates saves lives even if the total number of infections ends up the same|1 Be careful please with asking these questions on Wechat for their safety even more than yours They have been warned spreading rumors on Wechat about the virus now carries a heavy prison sentence so their lack of replies does not surprise meI can tell people are deeply distrustful about the communicated size of the problem and the miraculous peak by next week according to government officials both from the SARS fiasco and the unprecedenced government quarantine in Wuhan belieing the number of cases People err on the side of caution instead and stay off the street so its REALLY REALLY empty like never before not even on CNY eve For the first time you hear the birds tweet you hear the wind blow but you dont hear much of human activity outdoors|0 Thats surgical masks Theyre working around a highly infectious disease you really dont think theyre wearing them to protect themselves|1 the people expects the govt to take care of them when there is a crisis not sorry you didnt pay taxes for THAT|0 The study in support of it is not full proof doesnt mean we have data that disproves it I mean use basic logicWe have tentative studies like this offering a clue what could be and we have the data so far all deaths are Asians Obviously the disease originates in China so thats also a big reason why all deaths are Asians they got sick earlier in larger quantities But still the clues we have lean in that direction and no data leans in the opposite directionId say so far this remains a hypothesis neither proven nor disproven Something to be aware of Which is how I described it|0 This is horrifying|0 Wow you are so aware dude you are literally the 1st one to doubt china You are clearly the new sherlock holmes|1 I havent seen this name in awhile I used to date this guy many years ago He is extremely bright and enthusiastic albeit a tiny bit on the neurotic side However people that are careful are who you would want to listen to when it comes to something like disease prevention I think he said it best in his opening paragraph plan for the worst hope for the best Definitely not a bad idea to follow the instructions contained in this write up ps offtopic the pic in this post is not of Jonathan at all lol Hes definitely not bald When I knew him he had long blond wavy hair and defied the stereotypical look of a college professor|1 ok he actually said if you have access via faster supply chains that are already in place by all means go that route your title is misleading as fuck|0 and thats not even a threat its an actual empirically proven fact|1 Panic doesnt fucking kill people unless youre stampeding over one another This pandemic does kill people You have a good post but you are incorrect Panic can kill people and does more than just running over people It is interesting you suggested people are underplaying the virus yet its well documented that Panic can cause a lot of harm Just a couple examples are people who are not sick using resources that are taking away from people that are sick People can and do die People stocking too much on supplies There not being as much and they die People getting overly stressedhttpswwwpsychologytodaycomusblogextremefear201004yesfearcankillyouhttpswwwpsychologytodaycomusblogextremefear201004yesfearcankillyouhttpswwwnprorgtemplatesstorystoryphpstoryId5146890httpswwwnprorgtemplatesstorystoryphpstoryId5146890Even the bird flu Pandemic they talked about it|0 httpsenwikipediaorgwikiIraqichemicalattacksagainstIranRead up buttercupEditGases in the II war included stuff that hurt lungs|0 Probably They did say about introducing emergency powers to Parliment on Tuesday at the end of last week|0 This looks really promising If anybody with the network platform money community involvment and vision could do it its west coast tech billionaires Gates could really come out a leader on this and we should keep an eye out If this rolls out like the article suggests we will owe a lot to this response if not just to ease many minds and collect data more so Thanks uthisisbillgates|1 If you have anxiety about the Wu flu take some Benadryl itll help For real|0 As long as you maintain a six foot distance from others they are encouraging people to have outside time Just be wary of benches water fountains etc since the virus can survive for so long on surfaces|1 My son at 2 weeks old needed ECMO for heart surgery Surgery was 5 or 6 hours While his specific heart defect is more rare the childrens hospital does heart surgery all the time After surgery he was on a ventilator for a little more than a weekJammed up and unavailable equipment is how the virus is lethal to kids his surgery was on a Sunday because we couldnt wait another day Thats not even considering cardiac patients are high risk for any respiratory illnesses|0 Not really all you have to do is look at the death from SARS excluding China httpsenwikipediaorgwikiSevereacuterespiratorysyndromeHistory and youll see the actual death rate In China it was 66 outside of China it was 153 so the actual death rate was probably 23 times the official count Nowhere near 28 times the official count|0 I hope he stays safe Its scary but we can do this|1 And who exactly makes and ships the goods Robots Do we conjure it out of thin air Who wipes old peoples asses in the elderly homes Who makes sure the kids of the factory workers are educated during the months that this lasts This isnt something that is going to last days its a monthlong effortIn China it took quite some time to organise these things properly and they are a communist authoritarian state with strong government and are used to collective solutions America is a different story Even response to hurricanes isnt on the level and these are localised and temporary|1 This is what really annoys me There is no discussion regarding mild and the conversations on the TV remain inane and unhelpful|0 What CDC is doing is criminal Actively hindering states from testing for this is murder|0 If any health care professional reads this have some balls and just report what you see Your mission is to save lives not to gargle the balls of politicians who are dumber than you are|1 This is why I told my husband we will be keeping our kid home he would be just like that kid picking his nose constantly Each cute kid you meet is a bomb of germs lol|1 Not at all Most of them are Chinese sellers theres no mask production being aimed at civilian selling right now not by any mask company I can find|0 A true hero|1 I dont know if someone is still watching this but Ive downloaded the program and installed on my desktop PC The damn thing is almost a server got 32 GB RAM an 8 core processor with 16 threads and 2080 GTX I have some other friends with computers that are similarly powerful I will tell them to do the same|1 You are not alone in this In our town people are out and about as if nothing is going on I am losing faith in humanity more and more each day|1 No we dont|0 Wow really I thought we had enough of this Buttery Males crap|1 formatting seems to be broken Im not sure if c belongs on china doesit What does this c after France means btw france still have the d label while it should either go to the diamond princess or Japan|0 Whats your personal hygiene like|1 Opinions of specialist all say it is a possibilityBut they also say we lack data|0 thank you|1 Also Koreax200BAt my hospital in Daegu South Korea all inpatients and all staff members have been using vitamin C orally since last week Some people this week had a mild fever headaches and coughs and those who had symptoms got 30000 mg intravenous vitamin C Some people got better after about two days and most had symptoms go away after one injection Hyoungjoo Shin MDx200Bhttporthomolecularorgresourcesomnsv16n15shtmlhttporthomolecularorgresourcesomnsv16n15shtml|1 So that video was true after all RIP|1 Thats what a lot of people try to convey on social media A lot of pubs are closed but their workers are on zero hour contracts anyway so they only get paid for what they actually work Those workers are left with nothing right now Apparently if the government says that they have to close insurance will pay the workers|0 What big gatherings are happening this weekend and next week We will get to see which of BoJos friends gets some nice cash before it all gets shut down|1 You are now approved|1 Where I live most stores open at 10 so working people can only shop in the evening Elderly and housewifes clear out everything on weekdays and will go AGAIN on the weekends to get some more Working people are affected the most I think|1 Ill stick to my stock of proteases inhibitors|0 Ok Ill try to answer as best as I can with what I read on italian articles Sorry if did comment on stuff you did not say did not do it maliciously So a consumer associationhttpswwwrepubblicaitcronaca20200223newscoronavirusamuchinamascherine249358877 filed a complaint charged to unknown to the financial police prosecution office on grounds that products linked to coronavirus prevention should be deemed basic necessities thus making speculating on them illegal It is also mentioned how many of the listings could be ground for false advertising charges The financial policehttpswwwrepubblicaiteconomia20200226newscoronaviruslaguardiadifinanzadaamazonedebayperlespeculazionisumascherineegeldetergenti249647637 investigation is trying to identify the people who put up the listings and who are allegedly profiteering and speculating on people panic and fearsRegarding distortion the linked articles report that the manufacturer of the disinfectant Amuchina one of the goods involved in the speculations is operating at full capacity and is already expanding its production but did not increase the price of the product since its previrus value The investigation is going after people who bought the product in large quantities at market value and are reselling it at insane arbitrary prices I am no economics major and here I am just trying to report what written in these articles so I hope it makes sense to you and answers your questionsEdit apparently as inferred in the second article linked health products linked to coronavirus prevention are to be considered basic necessities Not 100 sure though|0 Good to know|1 This is what happens when culture holds you down as a civilisation and youd rather waste time and resources instead of acknowledging youre wrong|0 Strong state capacity is compatible with neoliberalism Right and the resurrection of Christ is compatible with atheism|1 This isnt going to be good considering all of the old people and tourists there|1 I wouldnt expect them to be a priority for testing either As the backlog gets cleared though Id expect it to become more common If they want to keep numbers low that would explain the timing|0 No rEaSoN To bE WoRrieD|0 Your wife is right I think you should quit too This shit is going to spiral out of control so fast|0 number of deaths number of recoveries number of deaths 100|1 Im healthy but I do have asthma Im more worried I could be carrying it and not even know and be spreading it We get people from all over the world in my work|0 it has nothing to do with aging and eveything to do with choices you made Variation in obesity is about 70 down to genes in the west one of the big causes of obesity is that some people underproduce satiety hormone PYY if their insulin level is highI no longer need to count calories because I keep off the carbs It was a real eye opener|0 I have seen people on reddit saying that the 14 minute times are to meet the marketing claims of kills 9999 of all viruses and bacteria and that the coronavirus is relatively easy to kill compared to some pathogens so that 1030 second wet time is sufficient for adequate sensitizationThough I have not actually seen any hard data to back that up either so who knows Ive been wiping down common touch surfaces with a bleach solution and just leaving it wet to naturally dry I figure it might not do it all but its got to be killing at least some of the virus so better than nothing|0 My boss also allowed me to work from home due to my overwhelming anxiety It felt really good that she took it seriously|1 Just think if you could have put off your birth by just one day your body might say your 40 but youd only be 10 When your body is 72 youd be able to voteAll of the videos were pretty good but only two of them addressed cleaning fingertip cuticles and thats a place were contaminants can gather as they are the boundary between skin and fingernails|1 Hope theyve got a burns specialist on staff|1 Chinas healthcare is way better than Iran Not to mention the amount of TB in Iran|1 Soon you wont be alone so keep doing what youre doing Just like we were already prepped before everyone now whose scrambling in the grocery storeI Started wearing my mask and no one has said anything Granted Im used to not making eye contact with people whenever I go outside My mom is also wearing her mask and she saw she saw another senior citizen doing the same|1 up to 9 days at room temperature 23 months in the fridge doesnt die in the freezer|1 1st official case of an idiot with COVID 19 confirmed|0 I would honestly pay your cabinet ten times as much to run my country Dont take what you guys have achieved for granted|1 August is still doable By then many if not most people will have already gotten it and the warmhumid summer will likely slow things down very significantly Prepare to take the right precautions and maybe cancel any dinners beforeafter the day of the wedding|0 i remember some guy in thailand slipped out his self quarantine paid 30000 usd to forgive his sin |0 Or just clear cache an cookies on your browser as i do|1 Please pm if you can|1 Lol what|1 Damn not Stringer Bell|0 Geez lighten up All I was saying is that the alcohol and then water didnt dissolve it like the previous poster said might happenAre you always so aggressive and rude|0 Patient then drives to McDonalds and coughs on the person working the window that day Lol|1 His fallacy is thinking that the general populace will react like he and his colleagues did But he and his colleagues were isolated after possible exposure They were scared and they took it seriously But if you lock down the general populace now people are going to party and treat themselves to leisure and social activities as soon as that 2 weeks are up In one family someone could be incubating the virus at the start of the 14 days He then develops mild symptoms but the whole family hides it because it would extend their quarantine Or they are denied testing even if they selfreport The symptoms are mild and they arent very alarmed Then another family member gets it 6 days later and selfrecovers too At the end of the 14 days a third family member blithely rejoins society while asymptomaticmild because whooo quarantine is over And the national number of active cases is down And then it begins again|1 My honeymoon is scheduled in a few months and the bulk of the trip is Italy I hope that this gets under control before then but I dont have my hopes up|0 Well hes right Certain parts of the country do have it contained Like the Yellowstone geysers No Corona there|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Good job It seems like Colorado has done much more than other richer state like California|1 I hope they get ventilators and oxygenmasks|1 the media is weeks behind reddit on this like 6 weeks at minimum they are still playing catchup to where we are and i think they wont really get a sense of this shit until another week or so goes by and you start seeing talks about actually fucking quarantining seattle and san franciscothese are the same fucks who just yesterday said that the market bounce yesterday was because bernie sanders didnt steamroll creepy uncle touchy joe biden on tuesday they claim that the markets were up because medicare for all is no longer a problem for wall streetwhere are we at today oh another 1000pts down on the dowthe only main stream media who has done any sort of reasonable job reporting on the virus situation is the fucking financial news everyone else is throat deep on either biden or trumps dickthey are actively doing harm at this point because of their ineptitude|0 Yeah but you have to do the same with all Asia Africs and half of Latinamerica too|1 I wonder if this includes Niketown in The Forum Shops inside Caesars is going to close The stores in there are required to be open if they Forums are else they face a huge fine Same for the Apple store|1 Sure it might be But Ill be in the mountains having a toke while this all blows over Gotta avoid stupid as much as possible|0 This is Cuomo not Trump Cuomo gets shit the fuck doneThis is funny because its exactly what the media tells you Wonder what the NYPD feels|0 With a pandemics there are always delays in information and implementation So one has to make decisions today based on data that is a week old that will only affect the situation in a few days timeLeadership is critical but sadly is almost completely lacking globally With some countries more lacking than others|0 Maybe at some point when they send people to evict us for not paying rentmorgage we can threaten to sneeze on themThe idea of being in quarantine is starting to scare me more than the disease itself|0 Wouldnt those people also be most likely to show complications Or is that a reason to test on susceptible individuals since theyre least likely to survive the pandemicAlso given the fact that ive become a cynical asshole should i kill myself|0 Thank you We just got word that our lobbies will be shutting down so I can hunker down in my cubicle and just work phone interviews I work in a very small office fewer than 10 people and theyre eliminating our morning meeting Our cubicles are pretty spaced out so Im feeling good Thanks for the kind words Hope your husband stays safe out there Hes doing brave and necessary work for the general public|1 Conspiracy theory yes but they left that ship alone to see the severity of covid|0 Trump is very powerful He can change the path of a hurricane with a sharpie|1 You shouldnt wear a mask because we dont have enough to go around they should be saved for when truly needed This is basic fucking logic Youre angry other people are not nearly as stupid as you are|1 Maybe not a doctor note but that doesnt necessarily mean you hat its paid time off unfortunately|0 Probably something that would cause more panic if they announce it|0 Nah Im good|1 Im not gonna lie the idea of reduced workforce because of a bunch of deaths which should increase compensation because demand should outweigh supply of workers is definitely playing a subconscious role for me not taking this seriously|1 Not unfounded just based on nonpublic info If you want to see it join a hospital management team and look at the reports they have internally Definitely not my opinion though|1 Coronavirus isnt a bad deal like the do nothing Democrats and unpatriotic pelosi tells me Its a great deal Weve never seen health care stock do so tremendously I have the virus Its a beautiful virus Maybe the democrats are just so weak they cant handle such a beautiful virus I will be enjoying the virus in MarALago while Pelosi and friends find more ways to bankrupt our nation Have you seen her Shed never survive such a beautiful virus Disgusting |1 Or the opportunistic lawyer says everyone is liable no matter the situation Remember people have sued for being saved in some cases saved without injury Ive known lawyers that would the fact they dont have ventilators available is negligence In this damned if you do damned if you dont world Id rather be damned for doing|0 Very likelyA bit of advise dont look only at the number of people infected I find the number of ill is probably more indicative of how fast the disease is spreadingIt is still accelerating but less than the number of infected people would seem to indicate The acceleration is actually slowing down a bit|0 I did Ive got all the things I could need a month ago Next thing they know theyre buying napkins for their ass wiping because there is none Love it|0 At this point its more from the chaos though They had no real reason to lie unlike many other governments|0 You make do with the most effective sanitizing you canUnderrated comment of this threadWe go with the tools we have and do the best we can|1 Funny how downplaying this leads to more panic|0 If its been circulating for the past six weeks is it possible that there are more asymptomatic cases than previously assumed I find it hard to believe that the lack of declared coronavirus cases in Washington State is solely due to government incompetence It plays a part without a doubt but I dont think its the entire reason for why the virus went undetected for six whole weeks|0 I didnt know the Mayor from JAWS was the governor in Florida as well|1 To be precise there is nothing to do but to think about it If a government really regards the people as fundamental I believe they will do everything to protect the people|1 Yet our high schools are still open because our chance of a serious illness is low what kinda bullshit do they know what infection is|0 200 moving day average is broken so we are in to bear market territoryBruh thats not what a bear market is|0 If I had enough foresight to by my respirators over a month ago they should have as well They can suck my dick|0 A woman in my local Aldi was trying to have an argument with the cashier because they wouldnt let her buy 10 bottles of water And another guy was loudly complaining about idiots taking all the rice and pasta then telling his wife to put 5 sticks of butter in the trolley|0 I think if he were fired and he became pissed off enough about it it might attract more attention to what hes saying and cause him to point out bad things that people of the white house administration have been saying presenting more authentic a viewpoint with a wider audience I think it might be a better thing|0 So this is a straight up fearmongering subGotta push that epidemic trigger right|1 Yyayyyy Awesome|1 Your response sounds assertive but offers little explanation Can you explain how pandemic bonds actually work Who benefits Who doesnt|1 There is a way to help Seen that the Coronavirus is officially declared a pandemic I would love to crosspost this thread on this subreddit httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfd29vjpleaseconsiderdownloadingboincorfoldinghomehttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfd29vjpleaseconsiderdownloadingboincorfoldinghome I would like to reach as many people as possible All the people can give just a little help donating the GPU power to this research led by the University of California Berkeley and Washington University Here you can find additional data httpsfoldingathomeorg20200315coronaviruswhatweredoingandhowyoucanhelpinsimpletermshttpsfoldingathomeorg20200315coronaviruswhatweredoingandhowyoucanhelpinsimpleterms Sorry for my bad English|1 to be fair he probably was not in any danger of being infected by MERS How about H1N1 or even the common influenza virus|1 Cool Am packing my bags now buddy|1 Reach out to friends and if its bad enough dont let your ego get in the way neighbors and friends Im sure will be happy to help|1 Do they add that on top of your income cuz I make more than 1000 a month almost 2000 always would love an extra Grand|1 Unfortunately the answer is no But if I do get some PC time I will try to join the effort|0 So if 20 is a hospital case that is like having 12 bullets in a revolver playing Russian roulette|1 I mean what youre saying is like you agreed not to close your borders so the fact you cant close your borders is bad Upon entering the EU you agreed on the free market and even so in special cases such as this many EU countries closed their bordersYou can actually do that And you can actually leave the EU|1 Not sure how those pretty specific two examples conclude that worst than nothing is being done across the whole country|0 those are heroesAlso this line seems straight outta an animeKeep going yall |1 YVR says thank you|1 Thank you Im a nurse and we get people brought in by EMS who were found lying in the street on the reg So many different causes epilepsyseizures POTS psych MI stroke anorexia overdose Videos without context really mean nothing And one of the videos I saw from China 100 looks like a grand mal seizure|1 More please Lots more|1 My mom smokes two packs a day probably more now from stress my stepfather had Crohns and high blood pressure my sister had asthma my uncle and nephews are practically mild alcoholics and my grandma is 86 Some friends also have asthma and one is obese And Im still recovering from the flu I had a few weeks ago This isnt going to go wellIm not going anywhere until my otg goggles and respirator arrive Ive got enough supplies to last me at least two months so Im good I just hope that everyone else is good as well and that they didnt just say that they were preparing just to shut me up|1 I doubt this report until there is PROOF they are recovering and no new cases are springing up CCP is bullshit|0 smart PR|1 Here is some relaxing music to listen to while casually browsing this subreddithttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvST2H8FWDvEA|1 Yeah they think we are stupid Its obvious everyone knew about it because everyone was reporting on it Lots of humans have this mentality where they thinkoh it wont come here It will never happen to me Mindset Im sure most people in power in the US thought this way Not to mention they also have a lets wait and see mentality too Anything can happen to anyone at any time Doesnt matter how rich healthy protective or how much of a good person you are It doesnt matter Im also just as upset as you about this Please stay safe and healthy buddy|1 This is based on facts just look at the numbers the only reason why we are not reporting higher numbers is because we are not testing look at how fast this is moving in South Korean and Italy We also not giving the right protection to our front line soldiers the health care workers dont take my or Cuomos word look it up yourself|1 Yeah we her family are not too happy about it|0 I gave up when Rick was in his Ricktatorship zone and busted into the meeting with the Governor who had proven himself an existential threat and failed to shoot him Showed me the showrunners would radically manipulate everyones behaviors to fit the plot point at hand instead of having characters truly follow an arc and behave consistently|0 The NY Times and Bloomberg have wrote scathing articles about the UKs terrible actionsGot any links could do with cheering up that Im not going mad|1 So this dangerous virus was detected in December and yet the US govt doesnt check people flying inbound into the USA and we find people being charged 3000 for the virus testingnow people are avoiding getting tested The USA is a total train wreck when it comes to healthcare and also addressing this problem|0 Hopefully they are taking as many pricortons as they can|1 A few thousand Are you serious Its just broke 200Which for that matter globally theres ONLY 42k active With a global recovery rate of 94 since the very beginning of the outbreak in Wuhan The virus is also proving to be less and less deadly as time goes on As of 7am this morning with 21666 tests and 206 confirmed gives an infection rate of 095 and we have a CDR of 1 with both deaths being in the critical age groups Not to downplay the virus or say we should be preparing But please for the love of all that is mighty dont spread fear or false information|1 I would rather spend on Pornhub than Airbnb from today onwards Fuck you Airbnb|0 Or she could just be guessing with an uneducated mishmash of crap since she was an absolutely irredeemable soulless charlatan|0 US is still the beacon of freedom and liberty Can you imagine china replacing US Half the humanity will either be dead or in some reeducation camp|1 Thank you for this This comment helped me more than you probably realize|1 Selfish person worried about him or his enviroment rather than being happy because a very small kid manage to overcome tremendous difficulty Awesome|1 Thats why in Texas Im going to wear a mask and a gun|0 I would really like to use it|1 Martial law in the US nationwide will be very different and very difficult to inplemebt That would also mean that the feds would basically seize all police and law enforcement agencies|0 Everyone is saying that Iran has close ties to China Youre missing the point Many countries have close ties with China and have hosted infected individuals but it has not blown up in those countries|0 And the basis of your certainty is|1 Its times like this I wish we had simply kept the OG 40 day quarantine The Venetians were smart They knew that unknown diseases can have inconveniently long incubation periods plus unkowns have to be handled exceedingly cautiously And you know what As money grubbing as they were they still stared straight at reality and followed through By contrast most of the world seems to be operating on shortterm greed and arrogance We have enough excess food and infrastructure to put atrisk folks through a 400 day quarantine And we chose to barely do two weeks for purely greedy economic reasons|1 Im right there with you They officially canceled school here in Minnesota today do I made a batch of copy cat Cinnabons I told the kids during a pandemic no one counts calories On a serious note I have a very limited supply of masks and will use them to go to the store We have a decontamination process I learned from a fellow reddit in China Completely cover yourself before shopping and remove those clothes before entering the house Leaving them outside to air out and then wash them spay your shoes with disinfectant Also your car Have you seen that they are now spraying car tires We all need to pay attention to what they are doing in China to decontaminate Those poor people that are at the mercy of their government are finding a way to stay safe|0 We need the extra space because of what a laughing stock the WHO are|1 Try rWorkOnline lots of options with some bread and butter type jobs that will pay an okay rate|1 Yeah Thats what CDC thinks for the flu20182019 flu season CDC estimates in the US0171864652010 census240630130symptomatic31859587medical visits389507104hospitalizations94336570deaths14238748Kids and teenagers catch the flu more often also visit a clinic more often but rarely develop serious symptoms that requires hospitalizations and even rarer on deaths Chinese data is almost in line with any pneumonia that requires hospitalizations This explains underrepresented 019 age groups in Chinese COVID19 data population share 235 case count share 22|1 Probably was just a weird cold or flu But I wouldnt be all that surprised if in the future we discover that these severe cases are actually secondary infections of people who had a weird coldflu thing back in early fall|0 You have no idea what the financial situation is at Amazon Why not pay them all an extra 10000 an hour Because it would destroy Amazon and thered be no one shipping goods and services Maybe that extra 2 is all that they can afford We dont know Amazon increasing their workforce and paying their workers more is a good thing But with you socialists its never enough|0 Welcome to America|1 Didnt I explain this in my first reply I never say they contain the virus by killing people I say they solve this overloaded hospital by shut down transportations and basically lock patients home which kill people I think the logic here is pretty clear Do you still need further explanationEdit I see you edit your response after I reply so you still cannot understand the logic here|0 Drones I mean amazon basically lives here Theyve been testing drone delivery for some time in some of the suburbs|1 Let him hurry Some counties have entirely closed their airports with only 1 day warning You never know the next step He might become trapped Im not telling you this to worry you but if he doesnt need to stay there its probably best for him to come back to his own country where he can receive medical treatment if he needs it Although I think Norway will provide him with any medical needs he should have I hope he stays healthy though Most people will be OK even if getting the virus|1 Past two days wish I had the Costco membership|1 Absolutely The left leaning stuff is as bad if not worse|0 Always nice when my home state makes the news Except now|1 Yes you can Just subtract 10 or so It is directly relatable Its like studying the virus in a lab in a Petri dish|1 Yes because lock down has been so effective elsewhere in europe|1 This entire article as well as the OG comment in this thread is about the Mayo Clinic a nonprofit yet definitely still private organization doing something that the CDC hasnt Also Aliibaba is sending 500000httpswwwbusinessinsidercomjackmapledgestoshipcoronavirustestsmaskstous20203 tests to the US due to governmental shortages Two relevant examples of private industry exceeding the government in terms of efficiency and speed As much as I dislike Alibaba as it is definitely a tool for the CCP to gain access to private data its a private company nonethelessEDIT I forgot that Alibaba is also sending 1000000 protective masks as well amid shortages|1 Perfect Thanks|1 Tbf Ive never been a big fan of pasta anyway Ive just always found fresh pasta to be so much betterPlus were probably talking people grabbing bags and bags of Tescos own brand pasta not the likes of De Cecco|0 Thats pretty tight but on the other hand it will enable researchers to make a good case for the efficacy of the drug if the results support such a conclusion|1 Thank you Also who tf is downvoting my question People who dont want Disney World to close Spring Breakers Im sorry if this worldwide pandemic is inconvenient for people Not my fault I didnt cause it|1 I dont give a rats ass about how China handled the outbreak right now Id love to see democracy and a free and independent press in my own country before I worry about China|1 Impossible some genius virologist on my Facebook friends list|1 Use fucking CT scans for fucks sake You dont need PCR to clinically diagnose it|0 Thats my thought Unfortunately|0 Lmao okay|1 Well if a significant number of people die from this across the West were going to see a massive reduction in tourism and more jobs shipped back here Which would result in a large reduction in CO2 emissions|0 I think he just claims to be one He doesnt have any problem sexually assaulting people or having sex with porn stars without a condom Hes not scared of germs|1 Sadly here in California it is impossible for anyone to procure masks even if your workplace allows itIve tried Have a plug who works at a hardware store and he said they are out of masks and not expecting a shipment anytime soon because california has been cut offTwo of my exes are doctors both are specialists in different fields who would probably not come in contact with COVID19 patients seeking treatment for covid19 specifically and both of them have told me that their medical suppliers who supply doctors specifically have also cut them offAmazon is not selling masks to CaliforniansYesterday the CDC announced a release of several millions of masks to healthcare professionals specifically treating the infected Hopefully as mask production increases it will trickle down to civilians But for now even if my workplace allows me to wear masks which it wont because I have a customerfacing job the nature of which would just not work if I had to wear one I would not be able to find any|0 Cant u suspend ur Semester and final examu can go on when u back UK after pandemic|1 I did expect that there would be some form of health screening before boarding At the very least taking temperatures But they just a had the same old form that asks if you have had any flu symptoms in the last 24 hours or been around anyone with same But that ridiculous Anyone that has spent thousands of dollars on a cruise and air fare is not going to say Yeah I did Guess Ill just go home now|0 waves from the other side of PDXThe headline nearly gave me a heart attack Was like what happened that I missed Washington County I understand headlines should be brief but considering theres two cases in Washington County OR it took me a sec|0 How did you come up with 20 How do you know how much capacity Iran has for testing I also dont think they can manage to test the entire population but Im just curious how you can possibly come up with numbers|1 That was removed from the previous counts We dont know how many that means removed from ongoing additionsEdit more If Ive said something wrong feel free to disagree|0 Natural selection for critical thinking age and infirmity|1 Yes ive seen that figure too as well as the 01 figure There is possibly confusion between mortality per population and per infected populationThats the difference between the number of people who exist and how many of those die of flu and the death rate as a proportion of those who catch itSome people in some places are perhaps misplacing their decimal points People looking at the figures are possibly not realising the implications of that little dot that if not noticed makes covid19 look not much more dangerous than ordinary flu It is much more dangerous A reasonable comparison estimation might be that Covid19 is at least 34 times more lethal than fluDeaths PER 100000 POPULATION 20 0002 in the US httpswwwcdcgovnchsfastatsfluhtmContrast this withSo far this flu season about 005 of people WHO CAUGHT THE FLU my all caps have died from the virus in the US according to CDC data httpswwwscientificamericancomarticlehowdoesthenewcoronaviruscomparewiththeflu Then there is the canonical flu death rate Dr Amesh Adalja a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security called it sort of the canonical seasonal influenza mortality figure quoted in httpskhnorgnewsfactcheckcoronavirushomelandsecuritychiefflumortalityrateThe death rate of those contracting seasonal influenza is typically an estimated 01 as a proportion of those who catch fluThe Guardian httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar05trumpcoronaviruswhoglobaldeathratefalsenumberThe death rate from seasonal flu is typically around 01 in the US according to The New York Times httpswwwlivesciencecomnewcoronaviruscomparewithfluhtml01 flu death rate as a factor of 34 Covid19 deathrate is 34 Covid19 based on known figures is at least 34 times as lethal as flu|0 Buy baby whipes Trust me your butthole will thank me dont flush them though|1 What a great world we live in Global health crisis Fuck you you dont even get to know if you can feed or house yourself|0 Serious question not to be doom and gloom I just dont have the answerBy going back to business as usual wont cases just increase again All it takes is one person to reinfect someone else and start the spread Or is my math wrongI dont know the answer which is why Im asking|0 I think its too early to conclude that but I do agree with you that what you said is entirely possible If COVID19 takes 2 weeks to kill people Washington is not a good example longer outbreaks are likely better examples like Italy which dont seem to support your thesis|0 A bit OT but i am a bit uncomfortable how cognitive dissonance is used similar to an excuse Humans people dont have to act the way they do they chose to I think its problematic to use a lack of self reflection as a defacto excuse If you boil it down we can reflect about behavior but some choose not to People arent stupid a lot of us are just dicks who dont care for how their behavior affects the rest of the world Or find it too much work which boils down to the same result Yes its a common problem no that doesnt make someone who does that is less of an egoistic ass Get a grip of yourself we are all stuck here together If its news for someone that they should objectively consider the consequences of their actions on others its even more important to tell them off They cant change what they dont know But not wanting to know is a whole other ballgame Thats not an inability but malice And from what i have noticed the second is a much bigger problem|0 Due to avoidance of US laws theres only one US registered cruise ship|0 I want my days off school|1 Lots of sales going on right now that include TP paper towels bleach and other household items that wed want for a while Spend 50 get a 15 gift card If its not on purpose its very conveniently timed|1 Mao had the popular will and doubled the population of ChinaMostly by improving healthcare which reduced the huge mortality rates Life expectancy in China in 1955 43 years Life expectancy in China in 1976 at Maos death 64 yearsFor comparison in 1955 China had a slightly lower life expectancy than the Republic of the Congo At the death of Mao it had a higher life expectancy than what the Republic of the Congo has today|0 Right but there was nothing stopping it from being as contagious as it is and as deadly|0 He will probably call the coronavirus a Democrat hoax or something|0 Oh this is gonna be REAL popularThe aristocracy closes the gates to hide from the plague|0 I am glad there are two of them They can keep each other companyWe have ran out of their favorite snacks We still have enough to eat but not the snacks they want It is probably better they not eat those snacks But they just do not understand the grocery store does not have any moreThank you President Trump|1 Right unlike all those Iranian leaders who are dead and the head of the Italian coronavirus operation who just died Those guys only had witchcraft and luck to help them right|0 The US admitted they did not even test the quarantine patients unless they were symptomatic And then released them 14 days later into general population|1 We can be adults atleast for now considering the serious threat we are under|0 Yes Ive been trying to distract myself Ive started The Good Place recently and its funnylighthearted which makes a good distraction Also been drinking lots of teasoupI dont know if it makes a difference but I think it helps me feel like Im doing something to protect myself|1 Hell yeah made me proud to be a native me town got me |0 The Chinese government either intentionally teased Covid 19 or intentionally spread it world wide so yes they are fucking responsible and should fuck off|1 Sweden is att 660 infected and 1 death now so like 01|0 Silver lining these tests are what led to the suspension of the NBA season which arguably helped start the cascade of responses from events and organizations over the last day or so Before this it was still being treated as a local thing in a couple markets like Seattle|1 I talked to coworker with a husband with really bad health about this today and she said it just over hyped by media Typical Trump supporter who believes anything right wing media tells them|0 In fact I think that the president said Your testing and medical bills will be paid for and then the insurance agencies immediately said nonono hes wrong you only get the tests for freex200BLinkhttpskhnorgnewstrumpwronglysaidhealthinsurerswillpayforallcoronavirustreatment|0 Well then Id reckon theyll be needing a heap of toilet paper|1 still less then one percent of the population in total but still very scaryhoweverthat is MORE the reason we must do our partthe best way to prevent it is to stay homedont be in large groupswash your hands dont travel keep doing that and we have a greater chance of surviving it dont give up hope i just think its good to see the seriousness of the situation so that we may better plan for it by doing what we can to keep the rate of spread down that is the key to serviving and possibly hopefully bringing that worst case way downand dont over stressstress can cause health issues too which can make you more supceptiable tooi look at this as the scene in star trek where the traveler needs to bring the enterprise home after going way way off course and he is in bad shape and to do so everyone on the ship must think positive thoughts to make it Kinda like that thats the only way we are gonna fight this thing is to not give into fear and give up|1 This should be reassuring to those who are fortunate enough to be otherwise healthy that they dont need to rush to the emergency room or doctors office if they are experiencing symptoms The experts have been consistent in telling us that otherwise healthy individuals can self isolate and recover at home This way we can ensure that low risk individuals are creating an unnecessary burden on healthcare systems allowing high risk individuals timely care|1 They could fly via Ireland also exempt from the Travel ban and very much a member of the EU|0 Thank you |1 I agree drones and surveillance are effective in identifying people crossing the border But seeing someone crossing is not the same as stopping them from crossing If there were an outbreak in a major city in Mexico wed see huge groups of people caravans approaching the border They will not use tunnels They will not care if they are spotted by a drone A team of 6 border agents will not be able to detain or turn the around Border agents will also not want close contact if there is risk of infection In the Gulf War in some instances large groups of iraqi army surrendered to apache helicopters to avoid getting wasted This is not a war Certainly border agents cant shoot at them So I guess we let them walk right in just like now|0 is that the same one guy who told yall US guys that masks wont work lmao|0 Kingdom come deliverance might still be free on epic plus disco Elysium is discounted on steam now|1 yeah given we almost started at the same starting point at the beginning of the week around 7080 cases but total US test figures are lower than 2000 given that Germany is more aggressively testing it is a nobrainer|0 Theyre doing a lot but they seriously need to sort out the issues with 111 No shade on the staff there but if you make people into human flowcharts then dont be surprised if shit consequences ensue The GP in this articlehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar08coronavirusworkersfrontlineteachergpnursepharmacistcarehome sounds genuinely concerned over the lack of testing in patients that primary care providers judge may be infected Thats worrying Theyve spent years pushing this narrative that weve had enough of experts then when something like this happens and there are people ignoring the actual experts the entire cabinet sits there with a surprised bloody Pikachu face on them Doesnt matter how much they try to do that one is going to come home to roost soon enough and affect their efforts Ill give them points on the SSP change for people selfisolating though And stocking up on stuff to provide oxygen at home They are seriously trying I hate them as much as the next cripple they want dead does but theyre not complete idiots A virus that is specifically known to decimate the elderly population is like the Tories worst nightmare they have to contain this as much as possible for purely selfish reasons if nothing else So I wouldnt assume any malice beyond their usual admittedly high resting levels Although pot shots at the NHS are definitely incoming|0 Good I am glad that its likely a lockdown will come I saw the travel recommendation thats how it started in DK so hopefully it will go fast in SE like it did there Good luck |1 And thats why Im struggling to understand where youre coming fromSimply put Nobody knowsDoes herd immunity even occur from a brand new virus Nobody knows And thats whats so scary|0 God does not love unconditionally No where in the Bible does it ever say that What you are speaking of is a creation of Godless people mocking him|0 John Coltrane is thee Jazz musician Trust me A Love Supreme will just make you feel better Its powerful|1 Its better to just stay home away from crowds than to short change medical and dental personnel who are already dealing with Personal Protection Equipment shortages and mark ups Thats really the truth|1 Id say we have a pretty good clue where things are headed That doesnt mean that it isnt debatable or uncertain Knowing something 75 certainty is a pretty good clue but also clearly open to interpretation and discussionAlso in science knowing less is knowing more|1 Im not Republican didnt vote for Trump and cant stand him but a virus doesnt care about your politics or mine it doesnt care how a country handles healthcare it just wants to spread We dont have a vaccine right now so our only real weapon against it is social distancing and hygiene in the hopes of slowing the spread so that healthcare systems dont get overwhelmed If 1520 of patients end up needing critical care the odds of not overloading the system arent good without people understanding and spreading information as to what they can do to avoid catching it and what to do if they do catch it to limit spreading it to others|0 Taiwan number one Fuck China for spreading virus|0 California and South Florida FL have suspended until Fall Miami said it will pass all students|0 According to the post the tests arent inaccurate they just change depending on which part of the body the test sample came from The virus may be more present in certain parts depending on how it progresses in the individual Doesnt ease my anxiety but still really interesting Thanks for sharing it|1 Its required that you have it there is just no penalty anymore|0 His cells are too alpha to get infected by a betavirus|0 only concern i have is all the poeple who will loose their jobs declare bankruptcy and commit suicide because we overreacted|0 Im going on a cruise in two weeks I figure the norovirus and coronavirus will battle it out in my system|0 LOL I love your headline If I washed my hands like a doctor in a hospital I would wash them about a third of the timeResultsWe included 96 empirical studies the majority n 65 in intensive care units In general the study methods were not very robust and often ill reported We found an overall median compliance rate of 40 Unadjusted compliance rates were lower in intensive care units 3040 than in other settings 5060 lower among physicians 32 than among nurses 48 and before 21 rather than after 47 patient contact The majority of the time the situations that were associated with a lower compliance rate were those with a high activity level andor those in which a physician was involved The majority of the time the situations that were associated with a higher compliance rate were those having to do with dirty tasks the introduction of alcoholbased hand rub or gel performance feedback and accessibility of materials A minority of studies n 12 have investigated the behavioral determinants of hand hygiene of which only 7 report the use of a theoretical framework with inconclusive resultsConclusionsNoncompliance with hand hygiene guidelines is a universal problem which calls for standardized measures for research and monitoring Theoretical models from the behavioral sciences should be used internationally and should be adapted to better explain the complexities of hand hygienehttpswwwcambridgeorgcorejournalsinfectioncontrolandhospitalepidemiologyarticlesystematicreviewofstudiesoncompliancewithhandhygieneguidelinesinhospitalcare36AD78694A4A2BA831A598E9C935C92Ehttpswwwcambridgeorgcorejournalsinfectioncontrolandhospitalepidemiologyarticlesystematicreviewofstudiesoncompliancewithhandhygieneguidelinesinhospitalcare36AD78694A4A2BA831A598E9C935C92E|1 I know someone who is a firefighter in Indiana They told me they were getting fitted for face masks today for when they have to go on runs that dont involve fires theyre required to go for events involving health issues as well and many of these occur in areas those less fortunate live|1 hes too sexy to die|0 Gross why are you drinking my drink|0 Ha Thank you for catching that|1 True because viruses are really great at respecting bordersFucking moron|1 I will be messaging you in 4 hours on 20200301 015219 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003012001521920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfb5cz4ijustgottestedcanadafj2dumacontext391 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffb5cz42Fijustgottestedcanada2Ffj2duma2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030120013A523A1920UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fb5cz4InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 The reason isnt completely Dog shitAlexander said that paid sick leave is a good idea But if lawmakers want to require employers to provide it then the federal government should have to foot the bill he arguedEmployees are struggling our employers are struggling and its not a cure for the coronavirus to put a big new expensive federal mandate on employers who are struggling in the middle of this matter Alexander said|0 When I was in elementary school one of my teachers would lick her fingers and leave a wet spot on the papers she handed out It grossed me out especially when it was graded papers you had to take|0 Drive though already long Glad I dont drink that overpriced stuff|1 The statistic I saw indicated swine flu ainfected 65 million people which was around 1 of the worlds population back then Where did you get your info|0 I also get migraines from certain types and brands of hotdogs sausage and certain brands of bacon|1 Seattle started preparing in January Washington state looks like the hot zone because they have been testingIn all likelihood the whole country has it but they havent been tested so they just dont knowhttpswwwkuoworgstorieswhencoronavirusstruckseattlethislabwasreadytostarttesting|1 I have to say I posted 2 articles about how could Taiwan stop infections and been removed by reddit|0 In the Belgiums they test for free no other test needed Only suspicion of the doctor is needed Then the doctor needs to call the government to be allowed to take the test Which is usually declined until its too late symptoms show already|0 Weed sales put to good useStates are going to have to step in and do things themselves Cause the complete moron we have as president doesnt have a fuckin clue|0 but keep in mind in a lab all the conditions are stable In the real world Factors such as sunlight can kill off viruses faster |0 Why is Singapore racist Please explainIts common for countries to strip people living there of their permanent residency and deport them if they break the countrys laws|0 Interesting Who designed this We the mods are discussing this currently|1 Better make it an open bar free of charge|1 Exactly Why do people get married if they arent willing to stay home during a freaking huge pandemic to protect their partners life|1 Was gonna say the same but you have summarised things better Kudos|1 Cities also have younger populations and more hospitals so hopefully that will balance out|1 I guess its just to show how quickly the confirmed cases grew with time Only naive people can believe that first reported case first case in general in any country|0 Did you read the post Smacks headIt predicted the next four or five days with very good precision because the data followed a pattern|1 Wear eye protectionIt would probably just be on a timerBut thanks for the addl tips|1 Can I ask a question whats Congress and senate been doing besides blaming the leader Cause they have power to do stuff besides point fingers|0 Yes because your company is handling it An individual has to provide proof Im hoping that will change because everyone needs help|1 Yes They follow the online assessment closely httpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronaviruscovid19selfassessmentI dont know how they determine in the end but this is the bare minimum I think|1 But not higher than the plague in terms of percentage of the population killed|0 The US will be on this list soonCanada will be first theyre still have zero bans and a higher number of cases as a percentage of populationMexico is lower than US BTW|0 I completely agree On a side note if you run out of toilet paper just cut paper towels in half |1 The difference is that if a company reinvests all profits into a business and still need extra money to keep running during the crisis theyve probably done everything reasonableIf theyre still paying out dividends and bonuses theyve most definitely not done everything they can to manage on their own|1 Im in the SF Bay Area I looked at more than ten stores yesterday and all of them were out Was able to find some at my office later on thankfully|1 I think people are afraid and everyone handles fear differently The question is how are the deniers dealt with You talk about quarantining your FIL but what if he wont quarantine|0 Potential ship full of carriers upon disembarking Weeee Its a holiday in Cambodia Dead Kennedys referenceGuess this vindicates Japan not just wily nily letting them get off the ship over there|1 Wed be better off running our own country and scrapping the federal government Rebuild it from the ground up|1 The Zodiac Killer is a lizardperson|0 Might be a very stupid question but why do we need their approval when country is in a state of emergency or almost there Waiting for their approval takes time and we need them immediately|1 Have you attempted to take lessons I find its a lot less conscious thinking when operating it but just awareness of surroundings If you become familiar with it you may overcome your fear Its a lot less daunting when you know your instructor is in control of the car as well|0 I just find it amusing So many people here believe you have one free perfect system|1 I guess I dont understand Havent they western globalists failed Isnt China closed for business Arent they being reluctant to share information To me our leaders look like the Germans at Stalingrad they are only seeing what they want to see|1 ExactlySure in a technical sense ignoring all other variables masks help But that isnt the whole picture Studies have shown no I dont have a direct link right are much more likely to use the masks improperly insufficient fit try totally ineffective methods to reuse or clean disposable masks INCREASE the amount they fidget with the masktouch their eyesnosemouth and also get a false sense of security thereby INCREASING their risky behavior going outside for just one more optional errand extra few days of workchurchfriendly visit etc It also depletes the already insufficient supply of masks for HIGH LEVERAGE healthcare professionals If healthcare professionals get sick they cant treat others can unknowingly spread to a big of vulnerable or high leverage people Laypersons have an option of staying home Healthcare professionals DONT|0 If you dont have your health nothing else matters Elon MuskIn any case stay clean and dry beware the work martyr and if theres a toxic situation at work stay home or leave Dropping out is an option|1 So Well have to wait and see|1 What difference does it make They are not executing effective quarantine procedures and theres no treatment so the tests are useless Once you lose containment theres no reason to test anyone but doctors and nurses to determine their suitability to work|0 You can estimate the real number of infected from travel data and found cases in other locationshttpswwwimperialacukmrcglobalinfectiousdiseaseanalysisnewswuhancoronavirusReport 2|0 Oh certainly|1 Could this explain some of the picturesvideos of people who seem to have just dropped in the street if suddenly they just couldnt breathe Or is this a more advanced stage issue|1 You missed my point I was saying that IF FEMA was designed to just funnel money into corporate pockets Im surprised they havent done that yet because that seems to be the only priority currently|0 They look curious and a bit surprised to be out|1 Hes had a chest xray lab tests ecg presumably O2 saturation measured He wasnt dismissed he was evaluated and seemingly determined not to have any symptoms or pathology that would be more appropriately treated as an inpatient Even if they diagnosed him with 2019nCoV that would still be true The best treatment for a mildmoderate viral illness like this in a healthy adult is typically going to be rest If the symptoms get markedly worse then okay but if its the same level of shortness of breath he was experiencing at the time of evaluation Im not sure what you expect the hospital to do|1 That could still be thousands but yah I know what youre saying I doubt its more than hundreds yet|0 The problem we face is that it out It cant be containedHerd immunity is going to hurt a lot but possibly less than additional wavesNo matter the choice it was always going to be shit|0 We also had to go to the pharmacy we saw a cashier cough in her hand the grab the receipt and hand it straight to an elderly customer who shoved it into his bag It was not a good sounding cough and the woman was probably in her early 50s he had to have been 70sIts terrifying Im glad you missed the mess It could be what part of Tacoma youre in We are near Wapato park|1 There will come a point where these people will have to answer for their criminal behaviour|0 Blackface wearer in Canada just lets people in with no regards At least the guns work both ways|0 Nah its not young Its not old either but its not youngIts middle aged|0 Yep same story here Going home tonight to prep freezer meals Stay safe|1 Yep are you an 80s teen too|1 It sounds very very very bad The lack or absence of containment methods no strict government actions Honestly the US gov gave up|0 the usa should have a phone number to ring I am in Australia which has just declared a state of emergency The CDC has actually known about the virus since December WHO has a website with information dating Dec 31 They have been preparing I am in contact with a nurse who is at a major hospital in St Louis yes in Decemberthat is when the Coronavirus first came on the CDCs radar They knew back then that this virus may spread to other countries including the US They just did not realize how fast this virus would be spreading Every hospital in the St Louis areahave been preparing for this for several months already We are a Level One Trauma Center Not every hospital has that ranking in Missouri We learn more and more every dayabout how this virus is spreadingbut still there are a lot of unknowns |0 hahaha yes how dare he not give you medical leave for anxiety|1 Thanks for your response I had forgotten the Dr wife from Elizabethton who were on the Diamond Princess hope they are doing well My thoughts have been especially with the people in the beautiful yet isolated mountain areasI hope they escape the virus but do receive proper care if and when needed|1 You dont literally need a gallon of water a day per person dude lol Besides theres no indication things like the power and water have stopped even in ground zero Wuhan|1 There are direct flights still operated by Chinese airlines as of nowChinese already is restricting just typical Chinese tourist from leavingAt this moment maybe Canada should figure out how to handle self isolation measures for flight crew and getting it right with any information sharing in flight manifest from China|0 How exactly did the pandemic declaration make things better|1 Im not attacking you Im frustrated that not only did USG not roll testing but that they also sent a deadly message out into the West saying dont bother wearing PPE Not a single Asian government did that that they all have their own skeletons in the closet but they didnt sink that low|1 I guarantee this will last a lot longer than 2 weeks or a month In 2 weeks or a month from now things are going to be significantly worse than they are right now which will extend all closures Id say things wont remotely begin to head back to normal until winter later this year Late summer or fall if were lucky|1 Yes|1 Sorry if its a dumb question how will staying at home for 2 or more weeks help the infected get better Does the virus die down by itself in 14 days We dont have any treatment for it yet We are going to stop the spread but given it is going to take more than a year to get a vaccine lockdown for that amount of time sounds quite extreme|0 What a bunch of little assholes who dont worry about older people When I started realizing late January that this was likely going to blow up and I started taking precautions buying rubbing alcohol bleach goggles gloves and disposable masks all gone but I have a painters mask at least and telling my roommates to get ready they looked at me funny and told me I looked scared and I told them I wasnt too worried about myself but our landlord is 85 and it would be irresponsible to go around spreading a disease because we wouldnt likely die from it|1 Yes and the numbers continue to rise I just added 6 from 5 more countriesEdit 6 more from Iran to Bahrain|1 They would have announced it if her parents had tested positive Which either means that asymptomatic transmission actually is a thing or she didnt catch it from her parents|1 Im fine and theyre are fine The ship has provided free wifi and phone to call to all their guests and are kept updated as confirmed news come in From what they can gather the ship and port authority are doing their due diligence to make sure everyone is cleared before they let them get off the ship as many guest will likely board flights or continue their trip inside japan|1 What the fuck makes you think Im not You think I exist like you just on line Im not like you now why the fuck dont you step up and do something except complain about others|0 Correcting misinformation is not political discussion Unless you told the other person the same thing youre being biased which seemsTo be in opposition of your entire point in this comment|0 Yeah Lets see have a highlycontagious virus spread in a confined locale with people who are already in poortoverypoor physical condition Yeah that could have a high death rate|0 Sun Myung MoonSun Myung Moon Korean Mun Seonmyeong born Mun Yongmyeong 6 January 1920 3 September 2012 was a Korean religious leader also known for his business ventures and support for political causes A messiah claimant he was the founder of the Unification movement members of which considered him and his wife Hak Ja Han to be their True Parents and of its widely noted Blessing or mass wedding ceremony and the author of its unique theology the Divine Principle He was an opponent of communism and an advocate for Korean reunification for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea Businesses he promoted included News World Communications an international news media corporation known for its American subsidiary The Washington Times and Tongil Group a South Korean business group chaebol as well as various related organizationsMoon was born in what is now North Korea PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Ive been wondering about ears The eustachian tubes connect to the respiratory system yet Ive seen photos of cdc people in full face masks that leave the ears entirely exposed For instance in the cruise disembarking photos by uhandfullofkeys|0 I work in the ophthalmic field so many of my patients are very old To me its less of a matter of if more a matter of when|0 Dont worry theyll reuse it Virus dont like live best on metal surfaces No siree|0 Darn the other comment got deleted before I could replyOh well heres my comment maybe itll help against some of these numptys feel free to quote or use itIt will also prevent millions of 60 year olds from reaching their average life expectancy of 8085Thats a quarter of their entire life just chopped away by the millions If you were to look at it purely in pragmatic life years lost terms ignoring the tragedy of the actual number who die every 4 60 year olds who die equals to 1 1 year old baby who diesIf one million 60 year olds die thats the equivalent in lifeyears of 250000 little babies dying Its a way at least to see just how much life is being lost We as a society are cruel and dont value our older people but perhaps in this way we might be able to see the extent of tragedy that will befall them if we convert their lost years into the lost years of a babySome who might go oh well if 40 million 60 year olds die would hardly do the same if 10 million babies die rightBut its all moot Every life matters It doesnt matter how old if theyre taken before their time theyve had something precious stolen from themAnd hey even if youre not 50 have fun with permanent pulmonary fibrosis if youre one of the unlucky 15 who progress to severe or critical statusAnd have fun if youre a diabetic or have cancer or heart diseasegood luck getting treatment when all hospitals are overwhlemedAnd have fun with any number of other ailments or diseases even broken boneshave fun with a broken arm when no hospital can assist you with pain meds or helping to set the bone correctlyHave fun and keep memeing that its just the flu|0 Dont u just love when America blames everything on everyone else|0 No point worrying unless you are chinese or if you have large numbers of cases already in your statecity Its a mental drain to read some of the garbage posted|0 Thank you so much for the detailed response I am more inclined to believe Asian media at this point as there is more traditional mask usage and data All the best and stay healthy|1 This happened to my boyfriend and I when we returned from Morocco with a cough and fever a few weeks ago Two negative flu tests each and tamiflu|0 And starved 40 million Chinese to death in three years with no crop failure|0 Im fine with quarantines at least theoretically but your comment is too broad To give up freedoms you have to trust the government to return freedoms and I dont trust Trump not to try and pull a Reichstag Fire with this crisis either so its a trickier call than youre making it here Its a balancing act between freedom and containment I dont think Id want to give up as much as the Chinese do even if it made this better Id rather a culture that respected the collective like South Korea though sure|1 Me neither I dont understand how people can look at China stopping their economy and come to the conclusion that it is a mild flu nothing to worry about and nothing to see Like the Chinese are some neurotic fools and we know better|0 For Sars2 Influenza has done 12 on bills as well so pretty in line with that|1 The problem is that if you need a ventilator and there isnt one available then you will die irrespective of why you need a ventilator If when the NHS hits full capacity then potentially quite a lot of people who dont have the virus will die because of the virus|0 Make Bloomberg pay for those kids access to homes and foodIf that cunt can drop 500 million on an ego trip he can take care of kids|0 Typically factories work overtime in China before and after Chinese new year If the Sulphur data are predictions it may contain historical data as well as current values and trends I have not looked at any of the data linked but if the images are predictions it seems plausible|1 Lol this Walking thru Shasta countys downtown district you see signs for Syphilis testing I always stop and think who gets Syphilis in this century|1 Of those tested so far the infection rate is more like 80|1 Maybe the CDC has many many different pandemic response teams maybe each one is specialized and the ones shit down were no longer needed and redundant Couldnt be that though|0 Good god|1 Please fuck off|0 Ok I have a theory hear me outIts a closed system with known positives The SK mental hospital had 99102 infectedIt seems pretty safe to assume that if anyone in the facility develops symptoms of covid that that is what it isSave tests for other folks|1 I also read that it has a higher fatality rate for people with heart disease|0 You might try David and Sally Abel they were on the Princess cruise and he has been on youtube since the beginning all through the diagnoses They were both positive and came down with pneumoniaThey are still in the hospital in Japan and doing well It makes me feel better to see them They are in their 70s|1 To get an MOI of 1 ie to infect one cell in cell culture you need 1000 viral particles Because roughly 1 in 1000 is actually infectiousThats because 999 of them are the virus trying out a variety of mutations and with every cell infected it follows the same pattern Thousands released millions of cells orders of magnitude on a single host mutatingHis sentiment is accurate|0 it was standard practice last time the black plague hit London well maybe not welding but the result is the same|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Maybe they are just doing the 1 day lag before releasing details publiclyDo tell us tomorrow what the figure is|0 That makes for a potentially awkward acronym|0 You want something done Just do it yourself|1 Yeah I saw 3 bars filled with long lines All university students from what I could see Tuesday is a massive st Patricks day street party The scariest thing is that my nieces coworker goes to wlu so does her roommate This roommate has been tested for covid and is awaiting the results the coworker is self isolating So It could be spreading through the students who are still going out to bars and pubs If anyone is in kw you might want to start staying home bc its gunna get wild|1 I do love the dichotomy of a free market and free enterprise Is it dystopian or functioning as designedImma get mine more than I get gotAdam Smith|1 People just deal with bad news differently Some people get angry and some process it with humor I think we need to keep that in mind|0 I hate this guy and I think hes absolutely right Its the smartest thing Ive ever heard him say|1 Any doomer that says this is worse than they thought is straight up lying lol Most doomers and even half doomers believed this would happen after being spot on for quite a while httpsimgurcomaWwo0fuc|0 People are already doing that at costco My friend couldnt get medication because of this dude|1 Its win win for Trump if Pence does a good job then Trump gets to boast about if he fails Trump is going to make him the fall guy|1 YES this is exactly whats happening with climate change but on a smaller scale|1 Wish the actual government could do this|1 Yea thats the most ideal proposition But is it realistic right now Sure we cannot force an entire nation but more authority can be implemented|1 wuhan flu |0 Here in Oklahoma City Oklahoma USA gathering of 50 people are outright banned and even all event permits through April 12th have been revoked Ive been limiting my outside exposure as recently it has been confirmed that it has been spreading locally via community transmission Im also taking extra care to make sure that I dont give my immunocompromised mom COVID19 I have a quarantine room on the opposite end of the house set up as well with a bathroom right next to it Not taking any chances here I hate seeing all these idiots that I share a country with|1 First I would maybe express your concerns to your manager and see what accommodations they can offer since youre high risk A way to work from home without a tech skill set is reselling On eBay poshmark Mercari all kinds of avenues Ive had decent success in it as a side hustle You can start by selling stuff around the house and see if it works then you can source inventory You can sell pretty much anything if theres a buyer lots of information on how to start on YouTube Not all resellers are bottom feeders price gouging masks and sanitizer lots of ethical people do well Good luck|1 Yeah I feel bad for Japan because they are getting criticized for their actions when they are a victim themself People over simplify what is hapenning and just keep saying how the Japanese government is useless I would love to see how much better other countries can deal with this incident In fact I think Japan is taking the correct action by keeping those passengers on the cruise|0 But but but Trump said the CoronaVirus its a hoax on live TV|0 Just spoke with my buddy in Shenzhen who runs a distribution office he said all the companies in his area are being told to report back to work on Monday and resume normal operations as if everything is fineIf you think it was spreading fast just wait until next week after the extended holiday|1 He is an infection control specialist and has worked with Ebola Sars and Cholera He went on the Diamond Princess as a temporary helper and found no professional infection control No separation of Red zone and green zone Everyone was walking around wherever they wanted People with PPE were eating food and using smart phones Others had no PPE The onboard nurse wasnt protecting herself from patients because she assumes she is also already infected He was asked to leave the ship and is afraid that everyone on the ship is now infected He is isolating himself because he thinks he could have it|0 Theyve been lying since the beginning This is not some bipartisan issue|0 I would not use CDC data which only seems to comprise results from the CDC and Public Health Labs They dont track astonishingly stateuniversityfoundationprivate company testing For example the labs at U Washington tested about 1600 people yesterday The big diagnostic private companies are supposedly capable of thousands of tests per day The CDC numbers dont include any of this Anyway the best tracker Ive found for the US httpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsu1de2PACX1vRwAqp96T9sYYq2i7Tj0pvTf6XVHjDSMIKBdZHXiCGGdNC0ypEU9NbngS8mxea55JuCFuua1MUeOj5pubhtmlhttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsu1de2PACX1vRwAqp96T9sYYq2i7Tj0pvTf6XVHjDSMIKBdZHXiCGGdNC0ypEU9NbngS8mxea55JuCFuua1MUeOj5pubhtml Note that this tracker is volunteers manually inputting statelevel data This isnt official but I believe its far more informative and accurate than the CDC data and the best tracker for worldwide cases that Ive found httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountries|1 Many stocks are priced relatively low|0 You are doing a really good job so far|1 south korea mandated a law ONE DAY after the initial outbreak saying that you had to get tested if you had any symptoms South korea is 3rd in confirmed because millions of tests were ready for people to get tested to make sure they contained nearly all the confirmed cases South korea has had a decrease in confirmed cases since a week ago while other countries will rise esp countries that arent testing I promise south korea will be must lower in confirmed cases when this is all overEdit Im not saying korea did the best but I only know of their examples best Other quieter countries may have done a much better job|1 Check your local not corporate grocery store and Home Depot and Walgreens type places Chances are it will be okay but it doesnt hurt to be prepared a little bit Whatever happens will happen but having a few extra things to insure a little bit of protection can help with a little bit more sleep at night|1 I hope that they cant censor state health departments from releasing news of new cases|1 Alibabas Taobao is basically Amazon and Ebay squashed together but with a nicer interface and MUCH larger Keep in mind that Taobao alone sells more yearly than every single online and physical store in the United States combined and Taobao is just one platform in China Everything in China is just unbelievably huge|1 Im also an EMS worker and Im seeing the same things from people I work with and nurses at hospitals No one seems to be taking it seriously|0 Thats also a good point|1 Right but we can assume they are crazy spreaders right now|0 Hmmm Thats a good plausible explanation of how humidity works in this case ThanksEdit Which means surfaces are still dangerous in humidity|0 No we probably arent at water bottles but I dont think they are unreasonable we might be beyond them actuallyThere are no reported WA cases but I know its everywhere|0 That is so sad but very true|1 Fucking finally We need to start punishing these people who think its funny to spread the virus Honestly I think you should get a year for every person you infect|1 My wife has family all over Asia including Singapore They are systematic and high tech They follow orders They follow protocol They are disciplined They are organized It is more authoritarian there but you can walk the streets at night at 2 AM without fear In the USA you have freedom to do whatever the sh you want and we live more as individuals Thats how different it is culturally You have to be willing to take one for the team in Asia Its not that way in Western societies|1 that is good action but still a year away at the fastest x200BBy action we mean MASS TESTING quarantines and if need be lockdowns|1 A lumpy dumpy parameter of deacceleration The real underlying science not simple cookbookism or throwing magical lumpydumpy fits is to dive down with the mind in analytical understanding and in the body with observation recording and at times experiment and find the actual describable and modeling equations or algorithms that with fidelity and reality make each process understandable|0 I want to know what company it is as well|1 Thats a good point and is true for most asthmatics In my case brittle asthma Im allergic to both Paracetamol and Aspirin More mildly probably but they do make it very hard to breathe which means I cant take them |1 Thats optimistic to say the least A man with actual dementia debating Trump will not end well If the economy stays OK looking unlikely at this point tgem trump is a shoe in for re election If not were still in for a really close race|1 Thats the last place Id want to go And in fact the government told us that if you think we have the virus stay home|1 This thing is so contagious it seems to be spreading like wildfireIm really curious in what the R0 is in closed quarters|1 Will this crisis stop the Chinese habits of public expectoration and defecation|0 Die horrible deaths due to the lack of concern for our wellbeing|0 LabCorp and Quest are able to test starting today No excuses any more Cant say theres no test available now|0 Me too Im shitting myself We would literally all die x|0 Keep us updated Hope you feel better|1 Ive downloaded folding and I have two questions Can I set CPU and GPU usage separately My GPU is only at 20 if its posibble I would set that higherWhat happens when I stop folding I lose my progress Ive read in the FAQ that the program saves data periodically but its not clear when httpsfoldingathomeorgfaqsrunningfoldinghometurnoffcomputerclientsaveworkecheckpointhttpsfoldingathomeorgfaqsrunningfoldinghometurnoffcomputerclientsaveworkecheckpoint If its changeable where can I change it Is there a way to save the progress before stoppingThanks for the answers in advance|1 I just uninstalled steam thanks universe|1 My infant son has been admitted in the hospital for a week now in a highly secure full PPE isolation room Flu tests and other tests came back negative and hes on antiviral drugs but hes still getting worse I havent traveled to any of the high risk areas however my coworkers have as our headquarters is in Taiwan off the coast of mainland China and now Im wondering if I somehow caught it and passed it to him but am somehow asymptomatic A coworker just got back after being hospitalized for over a week with severe pneumonia too I had a mild cold around the time that I assumed was unrelated but now Im wondering I already know that its pointless to hope for testing since there are no tests available but that doesnt really console me The only solace I can find right now is the fact that 0 children have died from COVID19 Im really hoping it stays at 0|0 My mother used to work at pentagon has friend who currently works at the pentagon and has shared same rumor Again could just be rumor but guess well see soon enough|1 The point is simply that breeding animals for food the way they we all breed them en mass can cause illness The West is not exempt Its a matter of time the way livestock is kept|0 They will go bankrupt stock market will drop like you never seen it in the history of the market|0 Nice that you got the reference was more my own inner joke about you I dont judge and I dont care I dont know you I will call that virus the way I want and it shouldnt bother you at all m sure you have better thing to do|1 How Long Will It Take to Develop a Vaccine for Coronavirushttpswwwhealthlinecomhealthnewshowlongwillittaketodevelopvaccineforcoronavirus Three of these groups are funded by Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations CEPI a nonprofit formed in 2017 to fund vaccine development for emerging infectious diseases Inovio Pharmaceuticals Inc and Moderna Inc both say they will have a vaccine ready for testing in animals in one month Moderna which is working with the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases estimates that it could have a vaccine ready for a phase one clinical trial in people in three months Moderna which currently has the largest manufacturing capacity of the three CEPIfunded groups thinks it could produce 100 million doses in a year according to ScienceApparently Trump reads more than your average journalist trying so hard at the hot takeHow embarrassing to frame context so narrowly as to think this scores points|1 Yep My dad Who runs a small travel agency with 2 emplyees in denmark Are almost about to go bankrupt already and the danish government gives him No aid At All|0 You do realize flu vaccine doesnt work on NCoV Coronavirus|0 Having a small enough landmass that transportation of supplies is more efficient earlier exposure to the virus a culture that is already better at dealing with common colds in regards of healthier diets and things like masks being more common a Healthcare system that is actually effective closer proximity to China for information to be shared easier a more homogenous culture that generally has higher respect for the elderly and government officials that arent as bad as western ones are some reasons I could think of that could potentially be why Korea is doing so well|1 They literally chose the single worst named optionThat may be why lol A horrid name like that probably doesnt attract as many visitors A low visitor count makes it easier to close it down to use it as a quarantine area|0 Seattle alone has 67000|0 And The point isnt that China bought time and the West squandered it It should be China caused a deadly virus and squandered time Then the West also squandered time China didnt do shit Chinese medical personnel did all the work and as a reward they got shafted and suppressed|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their 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falls|1 If you close the schools kids stay home infect grandma or keep mum a nurse away from her job Do not close schools or ppl die|0 An interesting article explaining why its a good idea to close the schools now and not wait httpswwwsciencemagorgnews202003doesclosingschoolsslowspreadnovelcoronavirushttpswwwsciencemagorgnews202003doesclosingschoolsslowspreadnovelcoronavirus|1 My dad is fighting stage 4 melanoma It is scary to think what will happen if it reaches him My elderly grandparents and his gf are the ones taking care of him They are all high risk|0 Yes Do try very hard not to kill anyone todayhttpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 Im surprised shes going through with it I canceled mybachelorette party that was supposed to happen this week|1 You close workplaces and such for two weeks as soon as there is a single case there for one Then those few cases can resolve without the whole place getting sick|0 Phew good to know the rest of us are off the hook now|1 come to utah decent jobs and rent isnt crazy|1 For those curious the campus response is as followsDear campus communityAs you may have learned over the weekend public health officials have announced that there is a confirmed case of novel coronavirus COVID19 involving an Alameda County resident It is linked to the recent case in Solano County and does not represent local transmissionAt this time we have no confirmed cases of the virus on campus and we continue to take appropriate actions to prepare for any possible case here Above all we are focused on ensuring the health and safety of our campus community We understand and empathize with the anxiety many are feeling about the novel coronavirus and we are committed to providing regular updatesToday campus officials have activated our Emergency Operations Center EOC which will allow for operational leaders from across campus units to meet share information and develop contingency plans in a more efficient and coordinated manner This is in addition to the ongoing meetings of senior campus leadership the Crisis Management Team that began two months ago Campus health officials are in close contact with and will continue to take guidance from local public health officials at the city county state and federal levels The UC Office of the President provides additional operational guidanceOther developments regarding the virus include an expansion of countries that now have travel advisories from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC The CDC currently advises against nonessential travel to China Iran Italy or South Korea We encourage everyone to view the continually updated information on travel which is posted on the campus Global Engagement website We encourage students to review this preparation checklist to help with planning for possible disruptions to instruction This includes guidance such as asking instructors what their plans are for disruptions and being ready to engage more heavily via bCourses Zoom or other alternate instructional tools Campus academic leadership sent a message to instructors today advising them to make preparations in the event inperson instruction is disruptedPlease continue to visit the University Health Services web page for the latest and more detailed information regarding the virus campus actions and general tips on how to stay safe Meanwhile we continue to remind you to wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds cover and contain any coughs into a tissue or your sleeve avoid touching your face and please stay home if you feel sick SincerelyAnna Harte MDMedical Director University Health ServicesMarc FisherVice Chancellor Administration|1 Any opportunity to take a recess|1 This should be its own post v interesting would like to hear if anyone else has similar experiences with school workEdit now on cnn wow|1 What happens if he gets tested now instead of tomorrow Or the day after Or the day after thatHes not sick He can stay at homeThere is no urgency At all|1 Perfection Thank you|1 Come onEven Im not European This is terrifying practiceI dont know about you but this SarsCov2 is an Epidemic right now|0 Focus on what you can actually DO and only mine for practical info like how to disinfect surfaces wash hands properly or take care of a sick person Get your prep on for food water basic hygiene supplies and disinfectant stuff improve your health do car maintenance repairs dentist visits etc that youve been putting off Get it done now before you have to get it done in a more chaotic time if you suspect one may be coming Clean your house deep clean so that if you do get sick your lungs arent dealing with as much of the normal daily dust and mold as they otherwise would beQuit smoking quit anything hard youre addicted to if you can now before you have to quit at a shittier time|0 What i am saying is your and I opinion matters in November every 4 years What happens in DC regarding matters of national security is beyond both of us You can be mad at it but I dont see the upside I mean youre the one who chimed in with their useless opinion first To then turn around and say Oh wait it doesnt matter dont get mad seems very counterintuitive You just seem to scrabble really hard to defend a piece of garbage and seem to lack basic understanding of American governanceEverything I need to know about you I can infer from your post history and I dont want to fight you any more Its really sad I dont know why you have to be like this but you could be better I wont see your posts any more but feel free to reply for others I wish you the best of luck in life|1 Annoying sore throat nothing serious|0 I dont know I just always tell my little sister to wash with warm water regardless She likes to use cold water Usual hand washing procedure is to wash with warm water|1 Yes And as terrified as I am now I really really hope our horrible numbers can at least wake other countries the fuck upThats what China thought in February the rest of the world was hypothesizing that only Asians are affected Now that Italy is in a mess the Africans are thinking only white people are affected|0 Well see how you feel after you catch it yourself okay get back with me on that|1 They KNOW theyre gonna be asked and its not like ventilators have a shelf life so the fact that they havent done this already is fucking baffling|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Wtf|0 Completely agree you with you actually Better chance of surviving than dying Im in a hot zone and also choosing to stay rather than leave I dont think saying everyone should take basic precautions is fear mongering Its just trying to recognize that we can all do our part instead of acting like it doesnt exist|1 Stay with a friend or professor What do you do during winter break|1 In the UK 10k patients die of flu every year Probably wont calm your anxiety |0 This is interesting I see no headline about the loss of medical staffs in our social media Either government censors it or we are cold blood than what I already imagine I prefer the former since the death of Dr Li causes a lot criticism among the country This is like choosing the less evil in witcher 3|0 I feel much better now that they removed scary word for totally not reasons|0 Never did I say it was so best check yourself|1 No need to treat a stranger disrespectfully when they kindly asked someone else for a source We are here to share information|1 Generally if an American feels they personally are doing alright they dont think anything needs to be changed|1 I used to live in Torino Piazza Statuto Its a beautiful city I hope you get the all clear bud|1 How is it sensationalist She literally did lick a donut put it back on the shelf and then say she hates AmericaThat literally happenedThe lengths you people go through to defend your airhead icons that dont even know you exist is amazing lmfao|1 I actually dont understand why they want people to not wear mask in the US Its literally profit for companies like 3M How come 3M dont lobby to the government to say otherwise so people will buy more of their maskHospitals use different distributor than the one in grocery store anyway so its not like its gonna affect healthcare workers|1 My brother asked me to watch his kids tomorrow He lives a half hour away in another state so he interacts with a whole different group of people Im not sure if Im overreacting by telling him no because of the virus Thoughts|0 Still much better than anything available for cars|1 Because they either are stupid and dont want to wait even longer they feel special and think 14 days will be more than enough or theyre just badly misinformed|0 Would boiling water work Its certainly sterile although itd fucking hurt to apply directly to the skin Could you just dip the connection part of the prosthetic in boiling water Or do you need to treat the stump also|1 Which is why I used in some fairness I do agree with you My view is they need to step up like the US But Canada was pretty much a front line during SARS not so much for this one so less cases is to be expected|1 Great Fast Food Drive Thru still open but nowhere i see Drive Thru Testing for Coronavirus anywhere in GTA And what do we get fucking online assessment tool with a virus that show no symptomsWorked great in Korea they aggressively test the whole community where is a case and able to isolate the infected in time before it spread and it is safe for the staff and for the person who need to get tested and doesnt take up hospital resources We are 2 weeks behind Italy and our plan are also exactly 2 weeks behind on test catch and isolate beside this incremental lock down|0 thank you |1 Yes this is important However the onslaught of critical cases is expected to overwhelm the available beds in just days|1 We dont have a communist government I dont see the benefit on saying such stupidity about o country mostly social democrat|0 Canada is at 20 days Woohoo|1 There were a bunch of private labs that werent going to risk their liscences to test|1 The 9hr person is probably younger so they will be fine if they get infected|0 Just natural selection doing its job I guess|1 Should I divorce the husband I love because his company isnt taking this as seriously as my own is Inquiring minds want to know|1 Smart|1 Doesnt Korea have super fast test equipments Why cant other governments borrow produce the same thing|0 Awesome|1 Now his family is complaining about the backlash They were saying that there was only backlash because he is one of the early cases in NZ Well no shit|0 Reminder that Axios is the brainchild of Politicos worst editors and the epitome of access journalism|0 Eeeeeee the worst kind of fail|0 Things wont be gone outright just more expensive You will have to shift your food buying to more local items It will be fine Maybe buy a computer if you need a new one but otherwise I wouldnt be worried|1 Remember when the WHO spent their first press conference praising ChinaAnd then it blew up|1 Take care of those you love|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I usually like to listen to my favorite radio station that USUALLY covers major points in the news so when my day is over I can go online and check it out for myself Lately every other thing is back to the damn corona virus bullshit In an hour I can hear about corona virus at least 30 times now Im not exaggerating its just incessantEdit I think the corona virus scare is just a huge scam to stall off something huge that is coming Im also thinking its going to backfire hugely|0 Likely itll only kill Grandma OR Grandpa Then the other one will limp along for another year or two slowly wasting away|0 Not ideal|0 I think its this too people really dont think their everyday routines will be affected Ive lived through too many hurricanes to know it doesnt work that way|0 I work on the other side of Thanksgiving Point I wouldnt be too worriedbut feel free to check out my movements in the calendar of events attached to this AMA|1 So the CDC is really confident that they can hospitalize 40 million people|1 Expect thousands more because this age group has been consistently told dont worry you wont die from it from the media|1 Im a Dutch teacher Im with you Our schools need to be closed to stop the spread and protect not only our pupils and their families but our teachers too|1 IMO the drunk fans moroning in the background is the worst part of watching a fight and Eddies wife screaming|0 Well Im glad Ill at least be able to smell the poop I cant wipe off cos everyones hoarding the TP|1 This has been said since 1950s Exclude Sachsen and Thringen and you have no far right that is rising Just bitter truth|0 And even those recovered have they really recovered The virus can hide then come back once the host is weak againDo you have a source to back that up|0 Thats beautiful|1 Youre not alone|1 Well Actually not only grandparents but also my aunt and uncle 2 cousins live there and they have pets|1 Well yes if it gets to that of course|1 Thanks|1 fDA wont allow it Thank you FDA for keeping Coronavirus reports in America low|0 While this could spread the death rate is going to be up to 3 percent which is higher than the regular flu but we tolerate thatwe absolutely cannot tolerate a death rate of 3 percent if this becomes endemic Can you imagine 3 percent of your population dying off every year At current birthrates this is extinction level long term trendmillions die from the regular flu every yearThey dont 40 000 died from influenza last year|0 Iran is not hot now Definitely not hotter than Hong Kong|0 Well you dont want to present the situation as very dire because it hurts the stock marketDo you want panic selling in wallstreet because investors think America is doomed and the number of cases is 100x what it is|0 Governments dont have their own money only money they have are from taxes we pay|0 lol I was thinking the same thing but turns out they were filming in Australia|1 Rue 21 When they found out that campuses were closed they added more shifts onto my schedule without telling me D They care more about the certain amount of hours they have to reach every week than the health of their employees|1 They dont Full closure of the country doesnt include some things as urgent healthcare food suppliers and some other things Otherwise the country will just crumble|1 Right I demand a refund|0 Unfortunately this is the case in the US I used to work maintenance in a couple nursingsenior citizen homes and if the virus gets loose in those places there will be a lot of new vacancies Cleanliness is not a priority in most of those homes|0 Thank you You and your new baby stay healthy and well |1 Depending on the level of dangerousness some labs could be practiced at home Some A lot of my freshman bio lab was pretty basic things And a lot of my freshman chemistry could be found in basic chemistry sets But that is a good question|1 If hospitals are flooded with Coronavirus patients there will secondary fatalities from people who cant receive healthcare for other issuesEven though a low mortality is better than a high one 1 of 320 million is still 32 million potentially dead Obviously not everyone is going to get it in America but it illustrates my point I dont foresee any situation that doesnt benefit from people restricting there interactions from other people|0 Research shows that adults in the Netherlands smoke less cannabis than in countries with a complete ban So it doesnt make sense to look for a connection|0 I agree it wont cripple the workforce it will protect a lot of the workforce because kids spread this Also people keep acting like parents operate in a vacuum where school holidays weekends and regular sick days dont exist|1 Dont know if this applies here but breaking federal quarantine httpswwwcdcgovquarantineaboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolationhtml carries a prison sentence|0 Devils advocate Italy also has an older average population than the USDevils advocates advocate The US has more preexisting conditionsSo really what Im saying is I have no idea how bad this will be other than bad|0 Not true at all Theres hazmat suits and isolation|0 It meets the criteria of pandemic yes|1 Its not strange Theres an ongoing albeit old international campaign called Surviving Sepsis that focuses on the optimal means of treating severe infections One of the major tenets is early empiric antibiotic treatment for anything that might be a bacterial infection See for example Kumar et alhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed16625125 where time to treatment is found to be a critical feature of outcome As you can imagine from those sort of vague statements this biases you to overtreatment which generally has minimal harm associated with itSo yes I think that he was given antibiotics when he didnt have an infection that these were probably not therapeutic and that frankly in their circumstance I would probably do the same thing But doing something and believing it to be effective arent the same thing I do not think it likely that the antibiotics were therapeutic|1 Its basically a simulation on film And man so accurate to whats happening now well up until the apocalyptic town scenes|0 by Amazon he actually means usps|1 Goes both ways Whole lot worse if its happening but its hidden|0 Sure wish my government Canada would put Italy on the Avoid nonessential travel list Im really not seeing the logic in keeping them off of it at this pointNext day edit Italy is now on the Avoid nonessential travel list A week too late but better late than never|1 I think you might be rightbut Trump keeps disappointing so who know Remindme 1 week|0 Great to be here|1 Well thats stupid I genuinely need advice|0 Yes|1 a significant number of people in our world would like to do the same thing from the time they are 18 to when they draw their last breath and ANYTHING that suggests they should do anything differently must be attacked|1 I sat out an ice storm once that knocked out power to parts of the city I was living in for 2 weeks The stores were chaos as soon as the forecast came in and by the time I got in there there wasnt a whole lot left Ive always kept a stash of water but after that I started keeping emergency rations of everything else too When this virus started spreading like crazy my SO and I filled in some gaps and well continue to do so this month A lot of people think its weird to keep emergency supplies all the time but I remember that ice storm And I was glad for my extra water this weekconstruction crews are redoing the roads and water pipes in our neighborhood and weve had water issues Virus weather road constructionyou just never know|0 Seriously|0 That is misinformation and propaganda spread by the incompetent government of this administration since they were completely unprepared and incapable of dealing with a lethal pandemichttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf PLoS One 2008 37 e2618Published online 2008 Jul 9 doi 101371journalpone0002618 Professional and HomeMade Face Masks Reduce Exposure to Respiratory Infections among the General PopulationPrincipal FindingsAll types of masks reduced aerosol exposure relatively stable over time unaffected by duration of wear or type of activity but with a high degree of individual variation Personal respirators were more efficient than surgical masks which were more efficient than homemade masksConclusionsSignificanceAny type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmissionYou will not be fine WEAR A MASK|0 Oh my fucking god Woke up my girlfriend laughing|1 He is on so many anti viral meds|0 Yes I just kind of lost it on my cousin in a rant Using a tragedy to promote their propaganda its despicable Oh Ive never seen that comic but its my new favorite Thanks|1 Dude check back in every now and then to let us know how youre doing Get well soon|1 No I think the worst case scenario data was 70 34 CFR 20 hospitalized 61 ICU|0 Hey MollyHere is how you cope take a deep breth and then after that take another Now focus on living in the present instead of in the what ifs of the future Dont worry about things that havent happened or most likely will never happen to you Turn your phone off shut the tv off Make a sandwich Look at a bird or a squirrel Its hard to know what to believe in the world anymore and what the forces and motivations behind anything is so dont waste your energy on any of it because energy is finite Take another breath|1 How would you know good science from bad science|0 Im actually surprised Oregon isnt more on the balla little more progressive I think were stuck in the more people have died from the flu wash your hands no fever go to work swamp|0 not really lot of memes people are famous but not rich|0 Ah got itI seem to remember a certain nowPOTUS promising to take down big pharma Guess he forgot about that one|1 My mom is about to go out for street evangelism with a group from her church she is 67 and my dad is almost 70 years old they both have high blood pressure She said she has hand sanitizer with her and she told the group they dont have to come if they dont want to but of course most of them will because they have faith they will not get sick Nothing wrong with faith of course but there is documented community spread in our city and schools have shut downWe got into an argument and of course she had made up her mind I told her to at least notify her church administration that they are still going I wish our citycounty would heavily encourage or outright prohibit large gatherings like church services because this would discourage people doing things like this Of course her other defense was that her church is still having service tomorrow and that Im just living in fear I give up|1 At the moment When hasnt the US being one of the most dishonest countries in the world|0 Lets face it Stupid ppl when infected will not be careful and dont even care if they are infecting othersThey will not stop until they get heavy symptoms and seek help|0 We are only testing those admitted to hospitals higher hit rate expected i think|1 Thanks|1 It seems insane to me if the president and vice president arent getting testing daily Seems like it falls under national security|1 Governers and people should always remember we are in the same society that stupid act will cost lives|0 Lets go back a couple days again httpswwwhhsgovaboutleadershipsecretaryspeeches2020speechesremarksatcoronaviruspressbriefinghtmlDated Jan 28th straight from the EOHHS themselves They even announce that multiple agencies were directed to begin research into the Coronavirus and possible vaccination Their timeline goes back to as far as Jan 6th but to put Jan 28th into perspective there were only single digit cases confirmed in the US and the WHO hadnt even declared a global emergencyJan 30th Also travel bans arent racist If theres a serious outbreak of a virus why in the blue hell would you not impose travel restrictions Seriously though people who drink this coolaid only serve to politicize non political measures Coronavirus is a serious threat and anyone who wants to jump on a side can fuck off|0 I wish a few states like Colorado would just order a few million tests and start rolling forward Dont wait for the WH to say to do it Use your tax money and do it Im not even from Colorado|1 I wish more thought this way about climate change|1 Yes thats the way that universal healthcare works Youre arguing against yourself I hope you win|1 I like how theyre doing it I know you have to be a little bit lucky and I havent registered but the idea behind it is sound It keeps costs down for getting masks although the limit is a little low It is better than being gouged for masks Putting a price control on the masks is a good idea|1 Or will they act like of course they were aware of this all along|1 I thought that it was 5 days 9 is a shock|0 A week ago I promised a cousin Id get back on it for family communications right now I only post Im alive if a disaster happens near me but Ive been seriously procrastinating because I feel Facebook is configured for drama which I normally avoid Im dreading this weekend when I can no longer delay getting back on|0 Just watching as other countries blow past the US with innovation regarding the detection and treatment of this thing|1 Shh let the process of realization take hold Better late than never|1 Chaotic evil|0 I mean you would be the one getting rekt when you failed because you were unable to take the exam to their standards And you cant put your phone under the desk because they make sure you dont look away from the screen As clever as you might think you are you are far from the first person to think of ways to cheat|0 I wasnt joking|0 No tons isnt even from any of this Did no one read the first comment that was posted in here that I made Its a fake video thats Made as a parody to the contagion movie Jesus Christ people|0 Sadly Trump is too worried about his economy and he sees the crash as a greater danger than this virus|0 With its density New York is like a petri dish Ah The poor people|0 Okay what do you suggest we do then Im serious when asking|1 Yes My credit union and bank app all allow mobile deposits|1 ITs JuSt tHe fLu|0 Well obviously they were fake in wuhan but genuine in Italy werent they No Im not working for WHO why are you asking |1 It really is like watching the ocean recede before the tsunami hits The people who continue to come into work when they have the option to work from home are the people walking into what was the ocean admiring the view completely oblivious of the 50 ft wave in the distance|1 Agreed thats my point This is the new standard of leadership you can expect|1 human breath out tons of moisture in general having a barrier over everyones mouth is better than non|1 Yeah but thats trivially trueThe narrow possibility that someone could get through the quarantine isnt necessarily justification for extending the quarantine outside of the extreme range of possibility|1 Youre probably talking about FoldinghomeAs far as I know they are no longer on the PS3 nor on the PS4 but are still available on Windows macOS and LinuxA few days ago they announced that they are working on the novel coronavirus as well httpsfoldingathomeorg20200227foldinghometakesupthefightagainstcovid192019ncov|1 No Its what happens when you have MANY people infected Only the sick and old go to the hospital to get counted The other 80 just spread it|0 America well pay double what the UK pays|1 21 countries provided aid to China weeks agohttpsarmenpressamengnews1003716 So in a way these countries are responsible for Chinas recovery and the works Youre welcome worldEdit no hostility meant just wanted to nitpick|0 Seems that way but Im not sure how accurate it is Many foreigners are trying to get back into China Many people left for holidays before this thing kicked off and their holidays are ending now and suddenly find their flights are cancelled Their lives are here Their jobs their friends their pets Staying in another country would limit access to money and is causing professional stress for someI say this as an American who lives in Shanghai and has for 11 years My family stayed because we were worried shit would escalate and we wouldnt be able to get back Now my friends and coworkers who left are worried they cant get back|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 More like Pandoras Box has been opened|1 No Mitt Romney just ran with it It was a republican plan going back to the Nixon administrationhttpswwwsaloncom20131029nixonproposedtodaysaffordablecareactpartner|0 Cook at home Even safer|1 Wow That guy must live a very miserable life poor guy|0 Not many ppl actually living in NZ like her|1 I agree The same people blithely saying it only kills the elderly and ill will soon shut up when Nana dies of it Or a little brother having chemo|0 The UK seem to be relying on their scientific models which is the real point of contention If the other countries saw their models they might agree The government has committed to releasing their models so hopefully they do that soon and we can see what experts say|1 CDC is full of really smart people who understand that COVID19 doesnt infect people on the weekends It takes some time off goes to the spa hits up a lounge and sushi dinner for the weekends|1 Yep I live in Singapore and it went from being terrifying in late Jan when we got our first case of infection to being almost back to normal now|0 Shows how the individual human response is just so bad at dealing with pandemic Im feeling sick gee I hope nothing happens to me Better go infect 10 other people to make sure Im okay Me me me Freaking BS man And hes getting upvoted|0 Ive been flying for 40 years and dont have any problems flying today Lots of airlines went bankrupt over the years cause they flew empty planes or mostly empty planes|0 Thats not quite what I mean by lockdown In Italy its people being confined to a certain area a 7 town grouping in that case but being free to move around within that area as they wishBy lockdown I mean only one member of your family being allowed to leave your apartment only once a day and only to go to designated local supermarkets Scanning a pass at checks at the door on the way out and in again Essentially whats been happening in most of China for the last month I cant see that going down much in the west because the population would be up in arms literally in some cases|1 Im glad it wasnt to Amys Baking Company|1 Exactly Shop a bit less cough a bit differently Wash your hands and throw away your tissues after 1 use Not exactly difficult stuff hey|1 Lol 810 will get it at minimum dont pay attention to these idiots|1 Can anyone care to explain why USA homeland security is actively getting involved with this outbreak |1 Hospitals will become overwhelmed and there will not be enough medical supplies no matter what country or health care system Debating the merits of one healthcare system or another is all well and good until you have a pandemic then its basic survival|1 Not really theyre mad that the Trump admin was looking like they were ignoring the CDCs facts about the Coronavirus being serious and they were understating how dangerous it is in order to calm down Wall Street fears Then like 2 days later the first American died of it lol|0 What are you talking about Just because we dont have all the data doesnt make the data points we have irrelevent Its still good to know where the virus is confirmed to be even if we dont know all the places its spread to|1 Wuhan has a population of 11 million with a decently high pop density The radical containment efforts there were imposed relatively late compared to the modest but possibly yet to be seen more effective measures that are taking place in Canada to slow and disrupt transmission chains In total about 1 of the population got the virus We may well see higher levels but I think something in the range of 15 at the height seem more reasonable If you run some numbers with 15 our healthcare system is likely still overwhelmed But Im highly skeptical that 20 of the population would be infected at a given time Once you start getting into those kinds of values the rate of transmission is likely changing 1 in every 5 individuals that the virus moves to arent susceptible anymore|1 Most of them die of pneumonia which is an opportunistic infection that is lethal for the immune system compromised The coronavirus wrecks the bodys defense Then pneumoniaheart attack comes in for the killThis is also why it is so important to boost your immune system always maintain a healthy active lifestyleeat healthy fresh produces make sure to get plenty of sleep replenish yourself with plenty of fluids always as in good old h2o not sugary drinksThis way you will always be in the best shape to ride out any viral outbreak or epidemic|1 This is so true|1 No it does not You do not know what you are talking about|0 Yea millions of people died before the vaccine was made|0 Being poor in the United States is expensive|0 Notice how of tests corresponds to super blue states willing to defy the dumbass president|1 Bullshit S Korea and Germany are managing just fine with tons of testing|0 Keeping care of the people is what will keep the stock market afloat|1 Keep pointing at China for fault wont wish the virus away Its here Our own inaction allowed it in 3 people have died unnecessarily with COVID19 against their name How many moreChinas social restrictions in locking down people has had a major impact Western countries could do it if they were honestnoble Are they at the moment Only Italy just now If you dont give your population the information to work with they will rebel The ignorance is the sign we rely too much on the state too|0 This is going to get worse|0 Unless you plan to win what does it matter You can run 26 miles anywhere|1 What is going on in America This is crazy news Theyve really fucked up the response to this virus The lack of testing is going to bite them in the ass big time In a few weeks its going to be chaos|0 Nice flex A little bit humiliating|1 Sanitize your deliveries Or open packages remove your items destroy the box and wash your hands before doing anything else|0 People I talk to are surprised that every day there are more recoveries than new cases and its been like that for about 2 weeks now Less than half of all confirmed cases are still active httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtml85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtml85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61|1 yeahhh we are fucked|0 Nowhats school ages6 to 17 From 7th grade on kids are apx13 yrs old The younger ones from age 6 to 13 so apx half od all schoole age kids im just guessing here but maybe a third to a half have some way a grandparent or family friend who could help for these times Those last onesa small percentsge maybe a half of a halfso 14 yes they are in a pickle|1 Seriously I read a whole thread on how China was artificially manipulating their numbers Now some of the same people are quoting the US numbers as if theyre correct when we know were under testing Maddening|0 Because it didnt rape your eyeballs and look like a mud puddleA WORTHY ACHIEVEMENT|1 Bottom line though is that if this spreads the way it is looking like it is going to ALOT of people are going to die|0 I dreamed about lost face masks and fish sticks all last night I cant remember the crisis about the fish sticks I wake up in a panic over and over all night|0 Wow I checked 4 hours ago and it was about 4500It means they discovered over 1500 infected people in few hours that is scaryAt least 107 people were cured what means there is a working treatment that will get better and better But I also read that over 1000 people are in critical condition I hope they have free healthcare because in US it would cost like 50 thousand dollars to stay in the hospital for 1 month receiving treatment for coronavirus|1 Doesnt the various herpes strains and epsteinbarr hide in your nerves too|0 My grandma drank a litre of XO wine from China and was perfectly fineThen really wow Quite amazing in comparison to known Asian standard resistance against alcohol Majority or at last big part of people in ChinaKorea and Japan have problems with 2 ensymes making alcohol hard to be properly metabolised as I know And even with those ensymes could withstand less than we|1 I loved China Flu so sad I dont want to be conspirators but arent there people who tell anything to spoil conversations make diversions Or is it just ignorant kids who just learned that a virus was coming|0 Theyre actually not concerned of my occupational exposure as it is a jobdutyprofession However it just doesnt make sense to me why a social life outside of work was their focus In particular eating out was their main focus infact a ton of yelling comes from the fact that all they told me was to just not eat out when they dont seem to understand that social life cant get away from eating out If you want to hang out with friends you gotta eat out otherwise you gotta actively plan around meal times If you want to date you cant avoid eating out etcThe porn comment was just something I noticed cause the anxiety is making me less interested|1 Your inability to admit youre wrong is gonna haunt you your entire life Every relationship you will be in will end poorly and you will wonder why Well im telling you flat out that it is because you are ignorant naive and closed off from realityYou apparently cannot fathom the way the world works That or you are just trolling fornshits n giggles which is a whole other state of patheticEither way im done replying to you In the words of all your future girlfriendsboyfriends you just arent worth my time anymore|0 Why doesnt he make America great again and produce his own |1 He meant that the democrats are using it as a hoax not that he thinks its a hoax|0 Hi OP I just got off the phone with the author of the tweet and we are seeking to do precisely that I made a comment responsehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfjcz60anitalianhospitalranoutoficuvalvesalocalfkmy62mutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x to your post that I hope you can help give visibility Here is the link for the form submissionhttpsdocsgooglecomformsde1FAIpQLSdVfWaQi31l8VNUY6CVctJm5bElMmBKL7YG3mHY8ASvvcwragviewform again tooI also made a page herehttpswwwnotionsomoveCOVID193Dprintersnetwork28dc8a5fe31545ca87d3b229e59f2511 that will be centralizing linksinfo regarding this endeavor|1 Better to wear hazmat suit instead|1 As the mother to a two week old baby thank God for this|1 I think Trudeau gave a very clear impression that people should be following the advice of experts and doctors He then honestly answered a question about his own personal situation To then infer that Trudeau has blood on his hands as you posted elsewhere is fearmongering and wildly misleadingI appreciate that youd change the title if you could but as it stands it is outright false Its fair to take issue with how he phrased his answer about his own situation and how this may muddy the waters It is not fair to claim he made a recommendation to all Canadians|1 Thats actually an interesting philosophy I havent heard before|1 Seems the US administration dont want people to see this|0 Oh boy do I hope you arent being serious The virus causes respiratory symptoms that does not mean that you are less likely to contract it through your eyeballs The virus doesnt care how it enters your body it just needs to get inside|1 My pet theory is that they roughly know how many people are likely infected very high and at some point they worked backwards to figure our how many infections they should report each day such that at some point in the future the two numbers will be the same This spares them the need to go from 0 when they were covering it up to like 150000 in one day when it became apparent they couldnt lie anymore Smoothing the reported numbers like this makes it look less like a coverup especially for people in the future looking back that dont have the context that we do|1 Hey you must check your lungs and be corona tested as soon as possible Ive read an article yesterday Belgium article about cases of young people 20 40 that had corona got well and later during the recovery checkups discovered severe damaged lungs despite no health complaints were reported Stay safeEdit found the article use a translator lol httpswwwvrtbevrtnwsnl20200316spoedarts|1 Code red is as high as The Enterprise goes Can someone check and make sure we are not all on some scary hallucinogens while on the holideck No times for joke Or maybe it is Feels like the Kobyashi Maru test That sucks Kirk out|0 Really I think my limit is 6000 a day in Mobile deposits And its not like they set that limit cause Im some kind of high roller I dont keep nearly that much money in the bank|0 honestly i cant stand this anymore i just want to go back to living a normal life this really needs to blow over|1 This is the type of dystopian future Im looking forward toImagine the glory of being poor and hoarding safety equipment until someone rich enough decides to pay you for it Just think of all the money youll have|1 The CCP and Google etc leaders have their personal bunkers ready so theres no need to panic|0 Watching a train wreck in slow motion is what I said in another thread I have never wished so bad that Im wrong about this|0 Ahh yes the days when everyone was 19fca|1 But it is bad news that we are testing 110 what they are|0 I am actually stunned Holy shit More companies will follow suit if the big W did it|0 Saw Dr Gupta on CNN this evening He said the USA tested 0 people March 10th and 8 people on the 11th How sad is that|0 In my first comment I explained a bit more My comment was buried so Im sure you didnt see it no biggie I mentioned that these are people who understand the numbers and the danger Seriously we modeled the numbers using different variables in an excel spreadsheedto determine how many ICU beds would be needed And then we compared that to the 97000 ICU beds in the country Spoiler not enough I should add that these families probably earn 200k or more so it isnt an issue of moneyI completely agree that not everyone is educated on this and I have begun speaking up about it because they deserve to be and who is going to explain the math if not people who understand itI was really just trying to understand the psychological drivers Some folks gave great answers that helped personal connection accountability confirmed causality and reward systemsSorry for the long explanation I just wanted you to to know Im not trying to insinuate blackwhite heremore like a rainbow with some kind of strange infrared factor that I cant see|1 I dont know why people are still so resistant to the obvious reality it is spreading communally in North America Its not like there arent plenty of example countries where this is already happening Why do they think were so differentIn Toronto a guy was found positive and the entire week before he was taking one of the busiest public transit lines in the entire country to and from work each day By the end of March the people wont be able to fool themselves anymore|0 Oh man when I used to work on RT realtime PCR about 20 years ago I was always getting confused with papers coming out with RTPCR reverse transcriptaseAgreed RTqPCR is a better way of saying it|1 we have a plan a beautiful terrific plan and the best people When it comes to oil I know everything about it my uncle a professor in MIT a super genius told me all about it I could have been a scientist you know all the oil experts tell me Mr President you know so much about this how do you know so much about oil It comes very easily to me Ive been running businesses all my life Im probably the best at dealing with this oil issue I have an amazing relationship with Putin we talk all the time he told me Mr President dont you worry about your oil Mexico is going to pay for it Its all sorted out the economy is booming the stock market is higher than ever all this talk about an oil crash is fake news the fake news media is trying to make me look bad On fox news they called me the best president for oil can you believe it I can Im a very stable expert on this by the way I heard the ratings on that show last night were the best ever|1 Thanks someone else recommended this link as well I hope you and your brother feel better soon and Im glad its mild whatever it is|1 What about antiHIV drugs Do they work against Covid19This articlehttpselpaiscomsociedad20200228unfarmacocontraelsidatieneexitoenlacuradelprimercontagioporcoronavirushtml says a Covid19 infected patient was cured in Spain using lopinavir ritonavir and interferon beta This other onehttpswwwelperiodicocomessociedad20200303coronavirusmicrobiologaespanolaeficaciaantiviralvih7873725 quotes a microbiologist who says antiHIV drugs could be a treatment It seems however that it was debunked in Thailand one month ago Does anyone know anything|0 Right thats literally a failure of capitalism What youre describing is capitalism being unable to sustain itself during a global emergency due to inherent flaws in the system|0 He has to play the political game This is exactly what he meant|1 Did the same Monday was their last day Friends thought were were crazy Then the school sends an email the next day that says to be prepared for closures lol|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Fuck CCP Oh wait|0 For sure Lets call it what it is Im not a democrat but the Trump administration has done a horrific job|0 The most regretful thing to me was a pregnant woman from Huanggang She was in very serious condition Nearly 200000 yuan S39505 wasspent after more than a week in the ICU She was from the countryside and the money for hospitalisation was borrowed from her relatives and friends Her condition was improving after the use of Ecmo and she was likely to survive But her husband decided to give up He cried for his decision I wept too because I felt there was hope for her to be saved The woman died after we gave up And exactly the next day the government announced a new policy that offers free treatment for all coronavirusinfected patients I feel so sorry for that pregnant womanThis is so fucked up China is a hypercapitalist society masquerading as a communist one|0 My University wont tell you who your professors are in the engineering school until about a week before classes as they dont want students switching sections based on reviews|0 Its supposed to save the restaurant money not the customer|1 No its better to get the one without symptoms than to get none whatsoever Over time this can protect society from the virus|1 I think we are way past the point of common flu Whoever keeps saying this should stop|0 Let me guess they say he is negative no matter what he has so that people stop freaking out and canceling their visits to my guess is the biggest draw in Italy from around the world|0 why would goods stop coming people yes but they will still be able to ship stuff|1 Monkeypox is categorically not a pandemic Its not even an epidemicFucking idiot At least use actual facts to try and gaslight people with|0 The health officials in China have said a lot of very different and contradictory things The Western health officials appear to have decided for the time being that its either not possible to spread or the odds of spreading without symptoms is lowI am a bit on the fence here because on the whole I agree with you I think we should be more concerned about this and I feel like the health system is being either supremely overconfident or just deliberately blase or something I assume however that their belief is either that there really cant be more than the rare case without symptoms walking around potentially infecting people or that if there are lots of nonsymptomatic cases that means this is a mild enough illness that we wont control itI mean either of those situations would be reassuring if true but it feels like theyre gambling with our health as the stakes which does not feel so reassuring|1 I told my kids that this is like a bag of microwave popcorn Seems like nothing is happening at 1st but then POP POP POP POP POP POP|1 Exactly There are limited testing kits If you have mild symptoms no need to go to hospital and take test from ppl who have more severe cases Like you said stay at home and keep it from spreading|0 Ill be the first to admit that I have zero faith that the current administration would put the wellbeing of all citizens before its own political interests If a similar outbreak occurred in one of our metropolitan cities Trump and his cronies would probably let people die since the vast majority of big cities in the US vote democratic and thus dont benefit him politically|0 I feel our deaths are very high compared to other countries numbers Im not great with numbers at all but Ive seen higher confirmed cases with similar deaths to ours|0 Yep things are badI live at about 40 km from Codogno and about 8 km from CremonaSome towns are discussing about using quarantineYesterday ive searched everywhere for facemask but they were already sold outNot the end of the world of course but im worried for the aftermath of this virus and how the autorities sre going to handle the situationI guess well see in a week|1 Ffs can you put a note about this being a video of 3 dead kids being carted away|0 Yup I just got the email this morning No mention of refund in the email but they said more updates soon|0 BSL level 3 rlabrats welcome to my everyday life|1 I want to cancel I want to cancelI want to cancelI want to cancelI want to cancel|0 even in a pandemic I guess were having a better day than you are|1 Im sure a judge would throw their suit out and have strong words about that company People are desperate and need help These are trying times and greedy companies can go to hell|0 36 roentgen not great not terrible|0 The thought of 65 million people getting this doesnt scare you Plus thats around 65 million deaths according to recent studies Thats nothing to play around with If 65 million get it in China it is most definitely going to go crazy in the US|1 Nonono everything BAD is American on reddit Anything good is Scandinavian or Western European everyone else is irrelevant|0 You were closest with 456 being the released number|1 actually switzerland stopped testing people with regular symptoms a week ago and just told them to stay at home especially when young and no chronical disease|0 I dont think the UK has any controls It seems they are going to let it burn throughWed be better off burying our heads in the sand At least the transmission would grind to a halt|1 Unfortunately the decisions that allow your hospital to have you continue to work while asymptomatic despite exposure seem to come from the very top ie the CDCSee my profile for numerous posts about this such as the following quote from the New York TimeshttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfgwid6thisiswhathappenswhenonepatientwalksinafk8mx1uThe CDC just changed protections for healthcare workers putting them more at riskhttpswwwnationalnursesunitedorgpresscdcfurtherweakenscovid19guidancenursesoutragedfailedfederalstatelocalemployerOther experts are also recommending not quarantining exposed asymptomatic healthcare workershttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfgwid6thisiswhathappenswhenonepatientwalksinafk8ncfr|1 No way|0 Im not a gay hater but Im sure cutting public health would not be a good option regardless|0 you just killed him|0 Will you buy food for your children at any restaurant of any kind that does not offer sick pay to its workers in an epidemicI hope the answer is no Thats where the demand will be coming from the customers not the workers|1 Ok Im on the border of both counties|1 I disagree We know the same thing about the Shincheonji church sample in Daegu where the Korean government tested every member Youre right that its unlikely that SKs overall testing captured every caseMy point is that the closest data we have to the isolated church sample Daegu overall 80 church sample has about a 1 cfr even with a demographically lucky groupI think thats inconsistent with the DP data So either 1 the 20 of the sample not from the church contains a disproportionate amount of the deaths reflecting an undercount outside of the entirely tested sample or 2 this is due to the smallish sample size of the DP After looking into the data on the DP some more I dont think theres any reason to suppose missing deaths from charter evacuated patients theyve got the one from Australia and its only a pop of 40 patients flown out so we shouldnt necessarily expect more They did only do one PCR test for each person typically although I cant be sure of that from the description of the procedure What do we know about false positivesnegatives Does SK take multiple samplesdo multiple tests|0 Do you have pets Make sure youve prepped for them too|1 Hope and luck wont get you too far in a world wide epidemic|1 Interesting to see others thinking about this too Like many here Ive been thinking about Grenfell Tower and making comparisons between people panic buying and getting masks against adviceRees Moggs comment gives justification to people doing thisI remember at the time of his comment thinking actually thats quite refreshing to hear someone in authority make such a comment What it means is that we have reached and are reaching a tipping point which centres on a pragmatic relationship with authorityThis in turn is a good thing because it means people are in fact becoming more autonomous in their actions and not just following lock step with what they are being toldThis tipping point is typical of what we are seeing within the window of Brexit and TrumpIt is symptomatic of an underlying mistrust towards traditional structures of authority which have built up over many years and over many different issues particularly with regard to a sense of betrayal people feel on mass towards those up aboveIve been saying to friends recently that the panic buying is actually a healthy sign in the populous people are valuing their own lives more than placing their trust in governments to do so this also means the political system is fast becoming redundant in its ability to act in the interests of peopleCovid19 is going to have a massive effect on these structures for years to come Its going to effect the way we live and how we are structured as a modern societyIt will take time and pain to work through burying the dead etc but beyond it theres an interesting landscape on the other sideIll be watching the citizens of China closely from this point this may have planted a seed which will undermine the whole CCP which it will be unable to contain ironically|1 They need to go away with the racial bias crap Most doctors Ive seen in Canada are not even white or trained in Canada|0 Yes although most people who are infected 80 dont have severe symptoms if you get severe to critical symptoms but survive thats when sequelae becomes a possibility Heres an article about whats possiblehttpswwwnationalgeographiccoukscienceandtechnology202002hereswhatcoronavirusdoesbodyBeware the details can benauseating|1 Not sure if youve been through this before but a lot of women manage their GD with really strict diets that might be a good backup plan at least if you cant get a reliable insulin source|1 Twat|0 Elbow bumps are not cool they make me look stupid|0 what the fuck happened on march 1|0 School closures are coming the question is will it be proactive or reactive Proactive is more effective but reactive is politically easier for the reasons you indicated|1 Stop|0 This person wants to go from they arent 100 effective to wearing them is the same as not wearing them Completely ridiculous Nothing in medicine is 100 and yet we use various tools to slow spread With you all they way Their argument is illogical|0 Thats weirdan urgent care facility would make sense for someone with symptoms whats the name Theres too many here now|1 Afucking men Lock it the fuck down|0 Well then Bing it lmao The point is big biss actually played out an imaginary coronavirus outbreak in November 2019 and what we see online is exactly how theyve planned mass communications during the outbreak|1 Maybe that is the civil war to come Blue States and Red States respond respectively Then|0 Take care internet stranger|1 I dont understand your point about false positives what did you mean by that|1 Those numbers barely even matter when the testing criteria is so shit For all we know the authorities are likely just picking up more old cases they arent at the top of the game following every potential new case|0 I hope the ones that decided to stay on board see this See that their decision was shit bc they thought they were being cared for by people who knew what they were doing|1 You do not know how the CCP thinks Help definitely will be offered to the US because the American people are not enemies of China China is still a Communist country and working class Americans are not seen as the enemiesEven Cuba offers free medical school for Americans as well as students from around the world|1 German resident here My sister attends a school of 12k students Children with fever are sent to school and no one seems to care about this I called the local health authorities and asked them what they will do about this They said they were not going to do anything about it At school the pupils are even told that COVID19 is much less dangerous than the Flu which is obviously wrong see CFR in WHO sitreps for instance I simply cannot comprehend how they can provide such false information|0 Ebay 99 Rubbing alcohol 100 aloe vera gel Got both for about 6 yesterday for delivery by the weekendcombine at I think 2 parts alcohol to one part aloe vera but google it and spray on handsGet them Your protection means greater protection for meAnd then later on ask the UK government why the F we cant buy rubbing alcohol in pharmacies|1 I am not the sort to tell people what to doButI have seen people get scared by reading social media posts They get scared by begjng angry because there are adults who are afriad of being scared I am writing to remind people that its okay to be scared Some feelings that may be felt can be affected by certain umbrella thoughts and feelings Some feelings not all you may experience during fright is kindness and a sense of unity peace and harmony Feelings that you may feel besides anger is hate frustrated axious resentment and violent For the sake of our children can we all show them that adults can be scared too|0 I think we all agree on this sub that the Chinese info is not accurate by far Thats common sense by now Understanding that the consensus amongst experts seems to be that the virus is not as deadly as SARS and more contagiousIf somebody adds on top of that that the virus seem deadlier than that over a Twitter video thats the type of message we dont need here|1 This spread would be perfect from kids I do read they are much less likely to get it though I wonder if there are asymptomatic or just mildly cold like symptoms in the kid commnity and its being spread Just thinking outloud atm|1 Cuomo has been promising shit like this for more than a week as well|1 And Im really sorry and hope your gf feels better soon|1 But Mike Bloomberg said that 150 million Americans LOVE their insurance and wouldnt want the government to take it away|1 From space with the naked eye Gtfo Even the Great Wall isnt visible with the naked eye from space|1 Its definitely not great to have another virus on top of a shitty flu season|0 you better fucking wear a n95 mask as a tong|1 Ever heard of blood and circulatory system Every living cell in your body needs oxygen which is transported by it Its a beautiful transport system which any virus can also use to take a ride from their entry point eg eyes to the rest of the body|1 Trump may not be qualified but its okay Hes got magic Mike Pence on the case s|1 Yea its not a great plan as they decimate their own base If they can stop the election they are likely to lose though it is a win|0 Okay so all the news articles calling it a surprise and the after hours drop after it was announced are wrong My bad|0 So we think some parts of the house are going to have an uncontrollable fire at this point but you know not all of it|0 Also this People who act like this is ebola need to stop We dont need the entire country failing because people decided to go into mass hysteria|0 In the same section of his opening remarks Aylward did mention the fog of war and that since serological surveys had just started he joked that he could be sitting there in a week saying something quite different|0 May and it wasnt a serious comment|1 Could you expand on that Like what does Quercetin do with zinc|1 To answer your question there is nothing stopping anyone from ignoring self quarantine|0 They are closed no references there Print the last email post it When working for a new company give them a copy Excellent reference right there|1 Great thought provoking response|1 Im not sure i got your pointIm not doctor Im a second semester student And i spoke about telegram to show my sourceMost things i said i have just read myself in persian and just translated to english You want source dont youI posted channals later|0 They dont give a shit about you|1 Im FREAKING out I have 90 year old grandparents and immunocompromised inlaws that I refuse to visit Our school district just sent an email today about it saying they are treating it like the flu I emailed their principle 2 weeks ago freaking out But you know everything is fine and dandy here Ugh|0 I live in India and if it reaches states like Uttar Pradesh Haryana or Bihar its going to be absolutely catastrophic Extremely dense living huge populations and people will write it off as common colds till its too late|1 we should be extinct We must be to save the proud of all nonhuman living mammals|1 Whenever the word unprecedented is used one can be sure its a Trump person|1 Can someone help why theres so many coronavirus death in Italy|0 Yeah extending the length of economic depressions is generally unpopular with the economically literateThis is way way better than the New deal|1 Had the same issue at my hospital Asked our infection control person if we shouldnt be putting patients with breathing difficulties who are flu negative or whatever into some kind of isolation any kind of isolation and she said no Whatever Stupidity will be the death of us all|0 Were basically becoming Charlie from its always sunny|1 They are covering up the fact that they arent testing enough so people stop putting 2 and 2 together that you cant have confirmed cases if you dont test|0 This is a great point about normalcy bias I make a lot of jokes about it too as a coping mechanism so maybe your husband is more in tune with the crisis than you think|1 It breaks my heart that you want to make it political when people in my family in Washington State are really now at risk THIS IS NOT YOUR ORANGE MAN BAD sh This is the part where our President needs to grasp reality and be honest|0 Time to panic yet|0 The ones who arent mentally ill probably arent the sharpest tools in the shed I guess its easy to get drawn into a fantasy world that backs your beliefs no matter how far out they are|1 If they want to go the whole 9 yards they can have people in full hazmat delivering groceries as well Or that kinda robots that we see on TV disarming bombs and suchJokes aside hell probably still have docs around at least for them to collect some samples and to check on his stability at least a few times a day but maybe he could do that himself if well advised and send the results remotely|1 Yeah we really should be doing this now to minimize risk But you know risk to the economy and living pay cheque to pay cheque and it will cost me to cancel If it turns out the CFR is actually pretty low 05 and contact tracing is effective then well have gotten away with taking the risk but I dont feel optimistic that this is the caseIf it turns out that China has hid how bad this actually is then they should be rightly blamed for many deaths because we could have prepared better and taken stronger action earlier with reliable data from chinaChinas actions are hurting the world and not just themselves|0 So if I get this disease Im not supposed to take Tylenol Like Im not just gonna say my fever went down I feel better now|1 My nan went shopping yesterday Ive contacted all my grandparents to encourage them to stay indoors I have bought 100 meal containers and plan to make them meals over the next few weeks to deliver on their doorsteps no face to face contact of course|1 Youre not wrong about the possible of this unfortunately also after having lung damage from the first infection you can get it again shortly after beating it the first timeThese are things being rarely discussed because it hasnt really been long enough to see this data but lets hope for the best|1 Please just close the borders|1 This is darwin awards level shit|0 Wow that is disappointing to see|1 Thank you|1 Buy a gun Drowning Edit in blood and phlegm not the peaceful ocean drowning you dummies are replying with Christs sake and suffocating to death are some of the worst ways to die This is not one of those peaceful deaths that were inevitable and can just be accepted with Zen|0 I work at a salon that my boss refuses to shut down during all of this I feel terrible working right now its just the wrong thing to be doing|0 In the next 20 days Why are you pushing this herd immunity idea so muchBecause it makes absolute senseGo get yourself infected to help the cause if you think it is such a good ideaDont worry well all get it eventually|1 This is going to send shock waves through meth consuming circles|0 I am in the same boat tempted to cancel a flight to DC for a bachelorette party in April I bought it non refundable and before the windows mentioned in the Vox article below and Im pretty sure my bridefriend would also not take it well if I bailed Im not happy about losing the money and possibly a friendship but I personally feel itd be irresponsible to go on both individual safety and public health levels|1 I think it has begun its like an assignment thats worth 50 due in 4 weeks You convince yourself that it will be fine then eventually the due date creeps up on you So you begin except its already too late The best you can do is hand in an assignment late with a late penalty on it which fucks your entire grade over then you convince yourself that you arent to blame but the assignment itself|1 they didnt want to declare a pandemic because they didnt want the official government plans to go into effect since most of them wouldnt focus on containment and be as effective at combatting this specificPandemic Containment Class|1 Yeah I really dont get this either A pandemic is one of the most basic scenarios a government should prepare for and it seems like no country anywhere had a plan Im absolutely dumbfounded|0 Yeah I dont know To me seeing the president of my country sound like thatI dont like the guy politically or on a personal level That being said this terrifies me If he dies so does pretty much all credibility and confidence this country has I mean shit look at how much attention Tom Hanks is gettingI cant imagine the fear people would have if they found out even our president isnt safe not saying he tried to stay safe very hard but damn would that be a wakeup call and a swift kick to the groin of our stocks I assume|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im supposed to move to the US in 3 weeks I bought the tickets in February I for sure didnt know and I cant really cancel that flight because I lose my visa if I postpone further|0 Yes COVID19 is on track to kill way more But H1n1 really just became another strain of the seasonal flu which consistently affects around the same number of people each year worldwide Our healthcare systems are prepared for the seasonal flu but they were not prepared for something that spreads as rapidly as COVID19The rate of spread compounded by a much higher fatalityhospitalization rate are the reasons COVID19 is so dangerous|0 Thanks for the clarification|1 Yes they do I worked in er before|1 Anything for my people Our country is fairly unaffected as of right now and Id like to keep it that way until we have a curevaccine|1 There will be lawsuits on this Im certain|1 Yeah Im willing to believe the ministry of truth is short of hands|1 your post is so true I think it is time for other nations to begin questioning why we even continue to do business with China Is a nice but unrealistic thought Nations governments are going to do what they do to keep their people happy cheap goods Its about the people the drug supplies are about to get cut short Maybe more people will wake up and get off these narcotics finally As someone who has lost a niece and nephew and on the way to maybe another nephew after getting on the prescription drugtrain I wish it was as easy as a wake up Im with you though supplyanddemand Im all for ANYTHING short of worldwide pandemic that will decrease either Also as someone who has been on the Front Lines in the USAs warondrugs Bull Shit from the beginning perhaps Ill do an AMA one day I can say that when China shuts down someone somewhere will fill the void You and I and others will not sit back and allow this to happen Unfortunately our governments in the name of the people will|1 you would see gun fights at WalMartThat means Im safe|0 Sorry mate could you explain this in laymans terms please|1 Just wait until they close schools down and 38 of nurses have to decide who will take care of their kid|1 That sounds like hell you have my gratitude for enduring this burden for our sake I hope the days fly by and you can return home soon|0 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed14722281 Heat shock protein 70 is related to thermal inhibition of nuclear export of the influenza virus ribonucleoprotein complex Abstract The influenza virus genome replicates and forms a viral ribonucleoprotein complex vRNP with nucleoprotein NP and RNA polymerases in the nuclei of host cells vRNP is then exported into the cytoplasm for viral morphogenesis at the cell membrane Matrix protein 1 M1 and nonstructural protein 2nuclear export protein NS2NEP work in the nuclear export of vRNP by associating with it It was previously reported that influenza virus production was inhibited in MadinDarby canine kidney MDCK cells cultured at 41 degrees C because nuclear export of vRNP was blocked by the dissociation of M1 from vRNP A Sakaguchi E Hirayama A Hiraki Y Ishida and J Kim Virology 306244253 2003 Previous data also suggested that a certain proteins synthesized only at 41 degrees C inhibited the association of M1 with vRNP The potential of heat shock protein 70 HSP70 as a candidate obstructive protein was investigated Induction of HSP70 by prostaglandin A1 PGA1 at 37 degrees C caused the suppression of virus production The nuclear export of viral proteins was inhibited by PGA1 and M1 was not associated with vRNP indicating that HSP70 prevents M1 from binding to vRNP An immunoprecipitation assay showed that HSP70 was bound to vRNP suggesting that the interaction of HSP70 with vRNP is the reason for the dissociation of M1 Moreover NS2 accumulated in the nucleoli of host cells cultured at 41 degrees C showing that the export of NS2 was also disturbed at 41 degrees C However NS2 was exported normally from the nucleus irrespective of PGA1 treatment at 37 degrees C suggesting that HSP70 does not influence NS2|0 yes as per true capitalism hospital beds and medical care should go to the highest bidders the 1good luck to everyone else who cant afford 200k for a bed out of pocket|1 This guy is a sailor and diesel mechanic not a doctor or someone with any sort of expertise in this field Hes not even trained to read and understand the papers hes linking to plus the analysis is full of speculation and unproven negative scary inferences He admittedly has anxiety disorders and is priming himself to see doom All of this would be immediately clear to anyone who reads the thread and can think critically the fact that this subreddit is upvoting it at such a high rate suggests this subreddit is or is becoming a lowquality source for information about the outbreak|0 So about 330 people potentially have been affected in that Washington area alone Holy shit|0 Trumps leaving sooner or later The ccp unfortunately|0 Ha rookie numbers Post something positive about Trump and theyll outright ban you|1 The measures do do something effective they spread out the timeline when folks get sick The 1 goal is to ensure that everyone doesnt get sick all at the same time because if they do the health care system of a country will utterly collapse So theres a good reason for doing thisYoure comment about how long this can go on for before the economy teeters however are valid Hard choices will need to be made in a few weeks timeRegarding your comment force isolation of at risk groups this would impossible What are you gonna do get the military to abduct all 60 people and people with compromised immune systems out of their homes and stick then on a military base That would never work and soon enough one of the military guys nurses or doctors tending to them would walk into the military base with the virus and all those people would be toast instantly What youre saying is not feasible at allLastly there have been no studies as yet which have proven that people get longterm or even mediumterm immunity after having the virus In fact some folks in China have gotten the virus TWICE So using herd immunity as a primary strategy is a iffy strategy at this point because theres no scientific proof that it would work based on what Ive been reading|0 DeWine is a battle hardened conservative though Its both sides take note both sides Not just conservatives|0 Thank you Ive added it if you happen to know where the other cases are please feel free to send me a PM or reply in here|1 lol|1 Damn it corona You had one job kill humanity One job |0 i hate pangolier in Dota|0 What really cooks my noodles is that they are risking their own health because others dont take it seriousAnd in the end they are even risking their health to try and save the lives of some of these careless individualsSeeing and reading and hearing how people are making jokes of the virus I wouldnt be able to motivate myself to show up at work if I were a doctor during these times|1 I feel god in this Chilis|1 Just to put some perspective in I was at a home and feed store yesterday as a third party vendor I saw thousands of rounds of ammunition fly out the door This is going to get a lot worse Moms and dads would come in with their kids under 6 years old to buy 700rounds Ive never seen anything like it People keep making jokes about tp but a lot of rural America is ready for martial law They also banned gun sales because of all the panic buying Its scary|0 My daughter was an asymptomatic carrier of strep throat She would have been 5 or 6 at the time It was discovered because I was suffering repeated infections and inquired into why on earth she never caught it from me despite being in close quarters when its known to be so highly infectious|0 Thats reasonable but did you stop to consider that the doctors arent the ones holding the purse strings|0 Besides the ignorant people its also just an impossibility for many peoples lifestyles myself included unless we are actually sick Self quarantine sure but I see a lot of people on here who cant wrap their heads around not preventatively not going to work Working in a retail pharmacy theres no way to work from home and I know the rest of the service industry will have to keep workingEveryone keeps suggesting working from home but I think these comments are heavily skewed towards the Reddit demographic of tech employees that have the flexibility to do so|0 This is untrue Studies show surgical masks are just as effective as N95 respirators at preventing illness And when worn at home with infected family decrease your likelihood of being infected by 70|0 They keep saying there is no reason to cancel it because there are no cases in the Austin area but there are no cases because they arent testing people that show up to the ER with symptoms and are just giving them a zpack and an inhaler and sending them home|0 How can you guarantee that those fucky racists will not attack ordinary Chinese people with this fucky excuse Your government is evil and I will kill you for justiceThat is how you push ordinary Chinese people towards CCP|0 You are right apologies for the calculation error|0 Just to hide how little patient are actually tested|0 Its the end of the world as we know it Aaaannndddd I feel fine Back to video games for 12 days I should not have checked news today|1 Yes the potential is much higher I believe as well|1 White privilege much|1 Kill your boss and your landlord and take their shit|0 Cool can you post that id love to read more about the post and cant really get a clear image on this|1 As you dont trust the Torys have a look at what the WHO have to say insteadhttpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronaviruses Most people about 80 recover from the disease without needing special treatment Around 1 out of every 6 people who gets COVID19 becomes seriously ill and develops difficulty breathing Older people and those with underlying medical problems like high blood pressure heart problems or diabetes are more likely to develop serious illness|0 We have not had to do that at all yet People have come in early enough for us to catch the virus relatively quickly and have not had to use advanced respiratory support to that extent YetMechanical ventilation opens up a whole other world of challenges and unfortunately many patients who are on ventilators end up with a condition called ventilator associated pneumonia Which compound an already existing viral pneumonia diagnosis It is just a mess This is why respiratory viruses are so frightening they are very tricky to treat|0 Im inclined to think of the 3rd century Roman Empire fresh on the way out and call it the Crisis of the 21st centuryOnce again we have it all financial meltdown migration crises leadership crises peasant revolts and now a modern day Plague|0 Im not going to say what is right and what is wrong But if a corpse is unsafe to be handed back for a ceremony then Im kinda for the government to do what they canI know that sounds harsh and possibly insensitive but if a corpse can still spread the virus then having a death ritual wouldnt be idealAgain there is a lot I dont know and my opinion is mine alone and it can easily be changed with more information|0 I work in a factory 30 miles south of Seattle Factories all throughout the southern suburbs here Tens of thousands of employees My company has sent a single email that basically was the standard wash your hands if you feel symptoms dont come to work and more than half the employees dont even have a company email No meetings no plan of action Nobody is even discussing it at work amongst themselves A huge percentage of the population has jobs exactly like mine and theyll be kept at work far beyond too late It will take multiple employees being confirmed infected and obviously by then it will be too far gone These people go home and spread it to their families Kids are out of school Well their dad just gave them the virus he got because he was forced to work Its disgusting and people will die because of it|0 thanks|1 i disagreefirst me saying its an european thing does not automatically imply that at the same time im saying the US is doing a great job it very much leaves the option open for anyone to say its a US thing or that the US is also doing badly without feeling triggered those two things are not mutually exclusive its your freedom to interpret what you understand but its also my right to not let you put words into my mouth esp since i think the US is also doing a pisspoor jobsecond its not just a human thing since there are examples like taiwan and singapore who have dealt much better with the situation keeping their people safe while not letting their economy tank even though they are geographically close to china and have been hit with infections much earlier than europe|1 When the only beer you drink is called Corona Well the irony|1 True to an extent However you can also end up with people in low risk categories hoarding things and then those things masks hand sanitizer etc are not available to health care workers and others who are at risk This is where the fear factor can really be our undoing|1 What a fuckin god this fits entirely in a screenshot G O D|1 Its in the WHO special report from Wuhan Should be able to Google it|1 not to mention those who died undiagnosed Hell there are LOTS of people in China who are sick symptomatic and STILL cant get the test|0 Nice to hear Take care my friend from Singapore|1 Im not sure The videos of the Chinese secret police taking people away and the one where they put two people in a silver box could definitely be justified if theyre breaking quarantine rules which could potentially lead to other peoples deaths|1 Care to elaborate for those of us too lazy to Google|1 Lol far left Fascist talking points|0 History of ww2 and wars in Syria Afghanistan etc teaches us zoo animals get shot and eaten starting with the large carnivores and other large animals that eat food fit for humans ending with the animals that have a practical purpose like catching mice|1 super cute|1 If they felt the need they could table preliminary provisions in Parliament pretty much immediately I dont see the Commons or Lords standing in the way of anything reasonable at the minute If they felt something needed to be done now they could invoke the Civil Contingencies Acthttpwwwlegislationgovukukpga200436part2 and emergency regulations could be made at nothing more than a senior Ministers say soThere are also The Health Protection Coronavirus Regulations 2020httpwwwlegislationgovukuksi2020129made which enable the enforced screening and isolation of people suspected to be infected with SARSCoV2 These were made without prior approval of Parliament under the Public Health Control of Disease Act 1984 and have been in place since FebruaryIt not being lawful to do it is not an excusereason to delay they have the powers available to them if they wish to exercise them|0 Misinformation as in not confirmed by WHOMost misinformation is fake but some of it is actually not misinformation it just doesnt come from official government sources|0 I absolutely agree|1 The gov just issued millions No government in the world was prepared for this except S Korea in regards to testing because they had just conducted a mock testing trial 3 months leading up this this viral outbreak|0 Well i heard of the ACE2 receptors on friday talked about it with friends over a weekend and this is where i find out that study had one asian person in total So plenty of people are just lagging behind in information|1 Albuterol stops asthma attacks bronchospasm by relaxing muscles around the airway It has no significant effect on inflammation and swelling in the airways and alveoliGlucocorticoidsare a class ofcorticosteroids which reduce swelling and inflammationWhile they can both be used in the management of asthma they are completely different types of drugs Use your albuterol inhaler as recommended by your physician It will not have any significant impact on coronavirus affecting you positively or negatively While there is some research that albuterol may affect T cells and immune response it is NOT generally considered an immunosuppressive drug unlike the steroids this study talks about which DO have a significant immunosuppressive effect However the physicians clearly felt that the antiinflammatory gains of the steroids outweighed the immunosuppressive effects and the successful recovery seems to justify that conclusion|1 I would run the on different machines I got a couple machines sitting around I run Folding on my main machine since it has 8 cores just waiting around I dont game so might as well let the machine do something challenging for once|1 A couple weeks ago I was telling people to get things like prescriptions tylenol and any other things they will need over the next month or so now Before things get stupid They thought I was overreacting And yup their going nuts right now running around catching who knows what I even bought a couple months worth or weed and booze too|0 For days behind with Spain you should line up the slope to intercept with todays number|1 I never said it did It actually makes it more important that all of us practice social distancing and even if possible isolation to best of our situation|1 I am spending time in my 8 x 12 space organizing things and I have been joking its the safest place in the Bronx to be Like an isolation ward|1 Just imagine being this guy you find out youre suspected of having the novel coronavirus you are put into isolation fearful of what might come next Then you are cleared you call everybody and decide to throw a big relief party People come theres sushi sake the whole shabang but a few days later they come back to you and say that apparently they werent able to give a proper diagnosis and you appear to have the coronavirus still What an emotional rollercoaster and a potentially dangerous situation this is|0 Yes comradeIn all seriousness this is more or less the only reasonablypriced face mask of any style and decent quality that I could find to go and pick up in the shop in Bristol today This was the last one at Screwfix and after this both Screwfix and Toolstation are sold out for delivery Everyones focused on panic buying toilet roll and pasta and I seriously dont think we have anywhere near enough masks in this country certainly not enough that people can just rock up to a shop and buy someFilters are scarce tooMy opinion is I think weve completely run out and there aint no ships coming from China with replenishments|1 no no one got sick twice the test was a false negative|0 Someone who follows him will probably tell you that experts built the Titanic an amateur built Noahs Ark or some such stupidity like that I guess Im one of those weirdos whos secure in her faith and thanks God for scientists doctors and other such people|1 Its republishedbecause it happened in 1918Spain is holding a bigass international weeklong festival right now with an estimated 2 mil international tourists Austins SXSW ArtsMusicComedyBusiness fest is still planned to go on next week despite multiple companies and headliners pulling outapparently the logic is people arent going to cancel their travel this close to the event and at least this way theyll all stay corralled downtown It was estimated to have 400K attendees last year not including staff acts Good luck LA|1 I love it I even made a facebook post to laugh at plebs ALL OF THEM|1 Even if its not a big deal for you personally in terms of health the following depression is going to hit every single person on the planet|0 A little bit of guessing here but absentee rates right now in the facility I work in are astronomically high so theyre struggling to staff units Even without a pandemic most units in the hospital I work in are short staffed by quite a bit What really worries me is a couple years back our province cut down on the number of respiratory therapists so not only are we short of RTs on paper were even more short with absenteeism Were also using ventilators that Ive found are quite unreliable with very lengthy repair turnarounds at the best of times so take that how you will|0 You could certainly lose power or water or heat to a local area easily enough If you live in a small town or a building that gets quarantined lets say 8 people die suddenly near where you live all of a sudden the guy whos supposed to repair the gas line or the electricity or the internet connection may refuse to come in to work sensibly enough because he doesnt have a proper hazmat suit and respirators Its not so much the widespread zombie apocalypse but if youre in a quarantined area and a tree falls down on the power line theyre going to argue over who has to draw the short straw and come in and fix stuff It wouldnt hurt to have some batteries candles warm clothes a water filter and that sort of thing just in case there are disruptionsAlso its pretty likely that some basic service things will stop working For example in Northern Italy now some postal services are refusing to deliver packages to the areas with the outbreak So stores may not get restocked and the carton of milk you ordered may not get delivered etcYou also have the added problem of essential personnel being tied up on stuff Maybe they say the road is only open to ambulances and emergency vehicles Then all kind of deliveries are late and there are traffic jams in unusual places Then parts dont arrive on time and things stop working when they break|0 And maybe the threat of a lawsuit or two|0 Thanks for this |1 I think their ambition goes beyond guarding against threats and protecting trade interests Instead of describing them as a superpower I think of them as a Superpredator|0 Wasnt Puerto Rico failed response proven to have been local corruption for political gain|1 Lol Its a communist apologist in the wild Imagine the level of delusional privilege one must live under to compare the widespread famine caused by bureaucratic incompetence to not meeting the daily requirements of the food guide pyramid Do you have a trust fund Perhaps that explains why human suffering is such an abstraction to you In the Soviet Union after they murdered the kulaks they put up posters as a reminder that Eating your children is wrong But whos talking about them exclusively Maos great leap forward The khmer rouge and year zero Its alway amazing how people can play defense for an ideology that has killed more people in less time than anything else I hope that one day your comfortable position in life affords you the opportunity to travel to places and meet people who have experienced the reality not your utopian idealization and excuses of the murderous political system you are carrying water for|1 The UK Gove stopped testing unless youre dying in hospital|0 I think Justin Trudeau saying he is considering closing the border is like when my parents said Ill think about it This likely means its not going to happen|0 Pneumonia just means lung infection You didnt have covid pneumonia so not really comparable Regarding covid it can cause bilateral intersticial pneumonia which can lead to respiratory failure needing ventilatory support|0 Why are politics banned here This is a great read enraging example of how politics are enhancing the spread But in a similarly censorial vein we are forced to be vague about the cause This is Trump and cos doing|0 Thanks for the response|1 Funnily enough due to this virus outbreak the global carbon footprint will be significantly reduced due to the reduction in economic activity and slow down in technological advances|1 Why then would his oxygen saturation drop to 90 Just curious not trying to contradict what you are saying|1 This Just because reddit is full of scared people fueling each others panic WHO and pretty much all countries are still believing in contaimnet and trying to achieve itPeople need to realize that there is reason why these are the official experts in the field while we are all just keyboard warriors on reddit Even if you dont agree with their decisions and work theyre still working on saving our easy everyday lives while people here are just giving up and saying shit its all useless|0 see all those comments in the top topics here people are being refused to be tested either because they dont have tests or do not have a green light Here in the netherlands there is now a ban on general testing only if you are hospitalized|0 billions 77 less those that die before then|0 Okay This is what I read from an online article It was legit I dont bother to read bullshit It was regarding mild cases and all cases in general that it seemed that this virus had a first effect on males testicles and that its important to counter its effects in even mild cases because it causes sterility At the time I went huh and I thought maybe this is bio engineering Then I went in to read more elsewhere Not trying to argue at all just still reading and such at the moment It was the same article that talked about scar tissue in the lungs Might be You Tube Pockets in lung tissue Was interesting|1 Wait thats literately not what it says is the highlighted partIt says if the reported asymptomatic patients show clincially evidence then it need to be updated to CONFIRMED CASESThe entire paragraph saysWhen reported suspected cases or clinical evidence cases limited to Hubei Province according to lab results it need to update to confirmed cases or removed If the reported asymptomatic patients show clincially evidence then it need to be updated to CONFIRMED CASES To all cases it need to update the final status of the illness so need to update it consistently If I use twitter I would tweet at this guy Who says if the patient tested positive for the virus but has no symptoms it will no longer be confirmed This is the best kind of fake news I guess Because they provide you with the evidence you need to debunk them|0 httpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscasesIcanzsubmitGod damn man are you useless or trolling Im not sure yet|0 And the its impact will be lessened if you havent suffered with the previous ones IMO|1 Bankruptcy is a humanmade and humancontrolled concept A society could choose to give anybody named Steve 1000 dollars any time their bank account hits zero Humans can not manipulate death Large scale death is always going to be the real emergency|1 Which coming from someone who has never missed a chance to paint something in a much better light than it really is means were probably looking into 2021|1 Fuck you buddy Spreading fake shit is the worse and most disgusting thing you can do You are an awful human being China and other counties in Asia are suffering now and you try to try to push your agenda httpsthepreparedcomblognothe2019ncovgenomedoesntactuallyseemengineeredfromhiv|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Yes You have to eat other peoples boogers for this to work Try family boogers first and then reach out to more exotic sources|1 No problem whatsoeverOK there could be the odd problem here or there but we would get through it in my household|0 Poor countries with massive population in a small area Indonesia India Africa and maybe Mexico|0 Now leave or I shall taunt you a second timeuh|0 another potential diamond princess in the making|1 Did you tell the host someone was there I wonder if someone could have broken in and hidden unrelated to the hostIm a small woman and honestly I wouldnt have let that go I would have snapped a photo and run outside leaving the door wide open and called 911 while watching the door If it was an apartment and I couldnt see the door from outside Im sure a camera would catch him leaving|1 Id be incredibly surprised if a disease which requires reasonably close human contact for spread continues at a constant pace IE multiplier when the containment measures are so extreme Gatherings are rarer and even asymptomatic carriers have a limited quickly reducing pool of uninfected people to infectIts tough to imagine that infection rates wouldnt regress in Hubei at this point given the change in how people interact|0 It seems a bit vague Most of the uninformed public arent going to know wtf its all about|0 That would require leadership from the Oval Office which we well dont have|1 This is a good sign|1 I worked there for half a year the culture SUCKs I root for them to fail If you file for unemployment while this thing blows over you will be happier doing litteraly any other job|0 This may seem strange to people since we tend to think that only the highest trained people have any use at a hospital but thats not true There are many roles that can be done by volunteers with a minimum of training such as errand running basic janitorial duties perhaps even cooking for those of us who have the necessary experience with food safety Its also still snowing Even just someone out there shoveling snow will help I know it sounds risky but Im sure there are those among us who can take prevention seriously and with a modicum of training should be able to work safely alongside healthcare professionals|1 This is truly heartwrenching|1 Anxiety can also mimick this feeling Ive had my fair share of panic attacks not saying this is what is causing it but remember to also stay calm and try not to read too many scary things on this virus or your mind will race and cause the high heart rateIm only suggesting it might be anxiety that worsens your symptoms because you said that this scares you|0 Suspected cases means nothing It just means anyone who was even remotely close to the infected So far worldwide it seems like 99 of suspected cases end up not being positives and the 1 which do are often family or household members|0 Who knows I may have it in my system now but not showing signs If thats the case Im giving the virus to costumers and employees with out knowing Having a mask protects me some what but also heavily protects people around me|1 Social media Political division It disgusts me We were one after 911|0 Smells like TARP 2 is around the corner|1 Thank you for your service|1 Raccoon City Resident Evil|0 Really hope Greymoor isnt delayed|1 Um no I am not|0 Interesting Thanks|1 Apparently only 13 of voters yesterday were young people Sad|0 Hes one of the ones I respect the most|1 I think youll be able but I think you should question whether you should I know I have been because Im booked to fly there the first week of March Were supposed to be there almost two weeks and will be riding a lot of trainsI was taking some of the epidemiologist studies a week or two ago before the Italy cluster emerged and doing some back of the envelope calculations My conclusion at the time we would probably be fine to go but things would probably start popping off right before we came backIm not sure we can afford the risk of travel restrictions quarantine or catching something overseas when healthcare infrastructure is stretched by their own citizensEveryones sensitivity to those risks will differ|0 Bruce Aylward who led an international mission to China to learn about the virus and Chinas response said the specialists did not see evidence that a large number of mild cases of the novel disease called Covid19 are evading detectionSo I know everybodys been out there saying Whoa this thing is spreading everywhere and we just cant see it tip of the iceberg But the data that we do have dont support that Aylward said during a briefing for journalists at WHOs Geneva headquartersLink herehttpswwwstatnewscom20200225newdatafromchinabuttressfearsabouthighcoronavirusfatalityratewhoexpertsays|1 Hostages more or less A lot of people in retail the service industry or customerfacing positions simply cant afford not to work Not just that but think of contractbased workers like Security Guards They almost have NO payloss immunity I work in the technology industry customerfacing helping customers with daytoday troubleshooting and such My pay for a while will probably be okayI USED to work as a Security Guard and only could receive 34 sick days PER YEARSo never mind calling anyone a hero while appreciated I guess it wont change a damn thing for anyone thats trapped doing these jobs without any such payloss immunityIm not trying to offend anyone honestly Im just putting my two cents in|1 Yes Sven you get one too|1 Is the apparently high proportion of asymptomatic infections something unique to this virus or is it possibleprobable that other viruses behave this way as well and we just never noticed Like is this one weird bug or a paradigm shift in our understanding of how viruses interact with human populations|0 Anyone under the age of 50 and in relatively good health needs to drop everything and begin organizing marches on Washington This has gone on long enough|1 Its most likely the same strain Either the Iranians are genetically susceptible or more likely China is lying through their teeth and the real numbers are just as bad there|0 winter we could see twice that I was just starting to look for work when this broke out Now I feel hopelessChina had in the 100s of cases less than 2 months ago and are now picking back up hiring Even if theyre a best case scenario there wont be a yearlong shutdown|1 Maybe the CDC will say no thanks or say the test doesnt meet its strict standards |1 Death I can smell it|0 Youve described why toilet paper panics happen for no reason It has happened before for no good reasonhttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktoiletrumor But toilet paper is also flying off the shelf because people are buying a month or more supply at once because they are very rationally planning to avoid public places like stores|0 Remember it wont be 40 million all at once That is why if we can spread it out over time or delay its spread as much as possible it isnt all that crazy But I hear you|0 Im basically the same here in Aus lots of fun to bring up and talk about Has made me anxious when going to crowded places though b it worth the laugh|1 Thank God Oh wait|1 The advancement IS the problemIt took a virus 6mths to a year to spread across the world 100 years agoNow it takes 24 hours on a plane100 years ago most people were self sufficient but now most people rely on just in time supply chains which are breaking downWe are much more vulnerable now to a virus for which we do not have a cure|0 Its not like anybody gave a damn when it was just killing poor African blacks When white people got worried shit got done|0 oh cool videos investigating a sheeps collapsed lungs visceral plueral membranesedit watching his recent coronavirus videohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv5rOTz9duXwo now hes basically saying we are trying to delay the outbreak so we can prepare more for it|0 You seem to know some stuff Can you advise if surgical spirit is good against germs I bought some a while back for sterilisation reasons but Im not going to pretend Im a biologist and dont know if it protects against viruses as well as spores or bacteria|1 Youre equating potential economic opportunity not at all guaranteed with being better off You realize that even IF thats the case then those resources will go to rebuilding rather than advancing as weve been currently doing before this virusYall have such a weird desire for the loss of life to be a good thing It truly astounds me Reddit has been this way for years and I will forever disagree with the depopulation arguments|1 Weird I take that drug for an autoimmune disease I have called dermatomyositis|0 How are they testing them in 15 mins The only way they can do that is through serological testing but seroconversion takes time The only way to test for CoVID19 is thru RT PCR and it takes a day at least to do Suspicious|0 No idea finer than dead though thats for sure|0 The economy will be on life support for the next two years Insurers and reinsurers will go broke Entire swaths of the economy will be dead THe tourism and travel sector dead Hospitality dead Banks will need to be bailed out Hang on to your hats|0 Dont lose hope for yourself lose hope for the country Work with you immediate community and build something that could get you and your immediates through this virus Dont forget about your immediates Everyone needs hope not just you|0 I had this debate with a coworker today People are panicking because the Dow Jones is down 3200 pts on the week but forget the fact that 60 of Americans have less than 1000 in their checking accounthttpswwwcnbccom20190123mostamericansdonthavethesavingstocovera1000emergencyhtmlThose 60 of people dont care about stonks theyre worried about bare necessities If there was civil unrest its easy to see how desperation could devolve into violence|0 Interesting I mean I definitely have a gut so to speak So Ill just wait and see|1 She should tell them she is sick and theyll leave her alone pretty quick|0 Youre right I take the standard amount available in popular supplements 2000 IU a day is a good level I think|1 Can you and your fellow nurses approach the powers that be as a group and insist on better treatment|1 and another one joins the party|1 absolutly yes|1 Fuck every single one of those assholes|0 A smoker is less likely to be a severe confirmed case of this virus than a nonsmoker But if we have the extra info that it is already diagnosed then smokers are worse offIe it could be that smokers that still get it despite smoking have some serious problems|0 I work in a big german hospital There was a confirmed case of Covid 19 in a psychiatric ambulance all Staff got put in SelfIsloation but no one got tested They got told that there are only 5000 Tests available And those Tests are reserved for ICUStaff So where are those 14m tests exactly|0 Bank bail outs and subsidies for the rich but no health care ThiS Is CaPiTaLisM EaT ThE PoOr|0 No thats assuming based on the Italian percentages who need ventilators If everyone needed ventilators 6330 infections a day with 5000 ventilators would cripple us on day one|0 Whenever I mention something like in 2 weeks we will have the same issues Italy now has it gets downvoted in the public bulletin boards of the local news spiegeldehttpsspiegeldeI give up its not worth the time to try to convince them They will see|1 I once had a brilliant idea of trying some new gimmicky probiotics that was advertised as containing 20 more bacteria than regular probiotics The protocol included swallowing 10 pills for three weeks After the second week I suddenly developed panic attacks for the first time in my life and diarrhea at the same time Thankfully they both disappeared gradually after a couple of weeks|0 The tally will still rack up the number though Its in today tomorrow or yesterdays column The only way to avoid it is to hide the numbers entirely but thats not going to work once the hospitals are overrun|0 An undead Mao era Chinese superhero A propaganda baby Jesus to make the masses work themselves to death for the glory of the party|1 All you need to know is to go on lipstick alley and see same misinformation|0 No its not Everytime a nation became slaves they rose up and killed thier masters|0 You know the thing is we wont be able to stop it anyway just slow it downAnd testing in germany is not as bad as you might think at least compared to other countries|1 UmmmmmmThe 32yearold who lives in Burlington Ont returned from her trip Saturday Health officials say the doctors spouse is a surgeon at another Hamilton hospital St Josephs Healthcare He is not showing symptoms but is being monitoredWhat does being monitored mean Is he just assumed fine if hes asymptomatic Is he still seeing patients|1 Fire those regulators and jail them|0 Nicely put and this makes sense I was genuinely wondering specifically which state and local levels do this and cant find a decidedly clear answer It appears colleges are much more autonomous versus K12 schools for example Who has the immediate say Id imagine the governor would have the ultimate say in a state|1 Those really are the issues here honestly|1 The hope will be that those that were going to get sick will have already gotten sick and either remain at home or be quarantined by the time the extended holidays are over Everyone staying at home will have helped hugely in preventing the spreadThe bigger concern might be in the virus spreading rapidly in other countries that arent expecting it or are not prepared for it|0 Ive read peoples comments saying not to worry etc etc but forget that Im terrified My fiancee is due in April and while I appear calm and level headed about it Im internally freaking out because I have no idea what to do I mean obviously I have to prep for the baby to be here but Im seriously terrified of either of them catching it and something happening I cant imagine the thought of it People need to get their crap together and take this seriously because if those who arent dont we are all gonna be royally screwed|0 oh my gosh as much as we all want insider info I hope you all test negative Hang in there|0 Yes it was an interesting experience to say the least|1 Good luck to you sir or madam Keep trying whatever you think will help you This is an unprecedented situation for all of us with a lot to figure out Its so difficult in so many ways Youre not alone in this fight|1 httpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200212805256402cancoronavirusbecrushedbywarmerweatherI know that in general flu and colds tend to taper off in warmer weather and this article seems to think covid19 is likely to follow that trend|0 Corona could fuck up your lungs Yall been reading many case reports Lot of young people are reporting getting a high fever and chills some dont even get a cough and many dont get pneumonia This isnt a reason to treat it lightly but everyone on here is preaching pneumonia like its a fact when its definitely not for the young and healthy Go ahead and downvote me but this just isnt true The official WHO symptoms chart also backs this upEdit For those curious the comment was just saying that young people should be afraid because coronavirus will fuckup your lungs and if youre younglucky you might survive|1 Fair I guess it depends on how many defectors it takes to deplete stocks That dude who stockpiled 17k hand sanitizer bottles cancels out a lot of people following the rules|1 Im a boomer and I take this extremely seriously I dont understand how these people who were young adults during political protests and radical thinking advocates for the disenfranchised Have turned into no offense morons who voted for Trump and ignored literally every lie hes told If their young selves could meet their current selves they would be mortified Im sure|0 I know I think my cats are smarter Ive tried and tried explaining OK what if you dont get the virus and get in a bad car accident do you think they are going to throw people out of their ICU beds because you show up they cant seem to get from A to B without a roadmap|0 And in the US nothing no aid at all And we would still elect him again Unbelievable|1 A possible false negative first test requires two tests|0 Great glad we could agree that youre freaking out for no reason now get some sleep|1 Things are excerbated by uniquely stupid leadership is several major countries|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 CCP its never my fault|1 Anyone who was following the Hong Kong news would have seen that OP was telling the truth To be honest I was initially worried for the Hong Kongers because their government refused to close borders with China despite it being common sense to do so gave their police force PPE equipment while the Hospital staff were given scraps asked people to selfquarantine without making sure that they wont endanger other people by taking public transport and failed so badly at enforcing quarantine more than one person could easily walk out to do shopping or fleeThat Hong Kong has managed to have a lower case number than Singapore despite their government making those baffling decisions shows that the people there are crushing it with their masks and their steps to try to limit spread|0 Im not sure what a spray pack is but I suspect they are talking about aerosol spray cans of disinfectant theres a brand SprayPak A spray bottle should be fine if you use it to spray your cleaning cloth not directly spray the surface|0 what a nice colon|1 Which one effectively contained the virus Hmmmm|1 I told you i told you crazy old man screaming and trembling|0 Its actually anywhere from twice as much to about the same depending on the year And that was with containment efforts Would have been worse otherwise|0 Yeah they did|1 Italy does deserve some praise|1 Hes reportedly a germaphobe so Im sure hes getting tested all the time privately|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Yeah this had happened But what if the incubation period is found to be longer than 28 days in the future HmmmProtect yourself from coronavirushttpspraveenpuvacomprotectyourselffromcoronaviruscovid19|1 Because the azithromycin wasnt assigned randomly its on much shakier scientific footing It may be that the azithromycin was given to patients that already had higher likelihood of recovery unbeknownst to the doctorsresearchers|0 OP sourced from this tweet httpstwittercommkrajustatus1232032972355842048httpstwittercommkrajustatus1232032972355842048 is my guess No clue where manju man sourced it from|0 Brilliant move Now masks will just be sold out|1 I dont know what to tell you to be honest lol the brand is Natures Bounty if you want to look more into it I just read whats straight off the bottle|1 There better be|1 When I had the flu last year the doctors at Kaiser wouldnt test for it Apparently it is CDC guidelines to not test for the flu in adults just assume it is and treat They only test in children I thought that was pretty stupid then How are you going to differentiate corona virus and bog standard flu|0 I heard that he may have shaken hands with a kid who later tested positive A girl can dream|1 Problem solved|0 Everyone here must understand China is Communist Therefore controlling the people is the most important part The Chinese government uses the people of China as a resource treating them no better than an ox Until the people rise up in their own country nothing will change they will be lemmings guided down a road and off a cliff|1 Hes just a twat the sort of person who posts shitty edgelord troll posts online and claims to be a hard core Nazi or something not because he is but because he thinks its funny A waste of skin if you will|0 It is a deterrent No solution is perfect|1 It is about time The silence within the media and government has been deafening and making me worry I knew when the market fell once then twice someone would finally say something|0 Italy paused mortgage payments which is a great solution for this tbh|1 Meanwhile the man with over 100 billion does nothing significant Oh wait he recently bought a 160 million mansion|0 Ugh Ive had to teach some basic hygiene to my husband over the years Wash your hands after you pee or blow your nose No THIS is how you wash your hands Dont eat or drink after others especially if someone is acting sick Its amazing the habits some people have|0 True dat I think I might pick up a couple of bottles just to check all the boxes|1 Same with me I work in one in England I once tried to call in sick and my business manager wouldnt back down Despite me being bed bound for a few days before my shift The place is a shithole to work at this virus outbreak is going to be very bad for McDonalds Thankfully I have a few months of rent saved up so I can take time off without holidaysick pay Hope the same goes for you especially as McDonalds is terrible when it comes to sickholiday pay|0 That doesnt mean he couldnt give more The point is he doesnt donate most of his income or capital gains or other wealth increases to charity|1 I would but all the healthy people took the food|1 This is sickening|0 Yes but the Northerm Hemisphere has a population of 65 billion people Somost of the people live in the Northern Hemisphere|1 The parts are disposable and are changed for each person So just the chance of one person being infected or dead Easy decision|0 Our population are broadly retarded and smugly so|0 Yeah I was buying dayquil and had to show my ID People use it to make meth all the time and I regularly joke with the cashiers yep gotta get home and make my meth|1 I call it Doctor WikipediaI love UpToDate My most recent office didnt have a subscription but you bet your britches I got my own|1 Damn you and your level head |0 Ill say Your post history says you want to get it|0 seems like official recommendations are to keep your head down and grind your job|1 Washing up liquid is great see here httpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0008987|1 How about ok fluer since they think its just the flu|0 This is the same as HIV No one cares till it starts to effect them Until then its an African disease or a gay disease People are just awful|0 A large percentage of people could work from home with minimal to no impactI call bullshit If we do that itll reduce spread Part of me is like what for The only two possibilities are complete eradication or complete exposureLocking everything down would be a fascists wet dream and only delay the inevitable|0 Anybody reading speculation on nsaids ibuprofen like Advil keep in mind all the warning from European countries about it making covid worse|0 Quarantines or millions die not a difficult decision at least for people actually putting lives above Wall Street|0 Its also an incredibly small percentage You have to use a lot of decimal places Total infected doesnt matter What matters is likelihood of someone getting on a plane and shedding the virus Major Chinese cities are already under quarantine Right now Im more worried about the jerk from Texas that coughs into his hand or onto the seat back in front of him like its nothing and spreads around other respiratory pathogens Or the antivaxxer from Oregon who enables a measles comeback a disease far worse than what we see from the nCoV|0 Fire away man|0 Man I cant freaking find n95 masks |1 BREAKING Kim Jongun sends condolence letter to president Moon over coronavirus outbreak wishes good health for South Koreans Yonhap Tweet publisher bnodesk|1 Proud of my alma mater Go Huskies |1 In the early 2000s Taiwan which was at that time leaps and bounds ahead of China reported a 10 mortality rate from SARS off fewer than 400 cases details here are a bit murky China had well over 10x the cases and an even more backwater medical system than they have today and reported a 6 mortality rate We know very little about SARS I wont comment on the veracity of the WHO on this matter as its needlessly inflammatory|1 While I could understand the CDC asking a facility to stop releasing test results until they were certified so long as the facility was using the same technique they should have been allowed to continue testing From the little Ive read on SCOTUS cases and quarantines it seems as if the states have a much higher level of authority than the federal government does when it comes to safety measures regarding outbreaks I could be wrong on this so please correct me if this is inaccurate httpsverdictjustiacom20141008containingebolaquarantineconstitution|1 I personally do not see an issue with use it or lose itMy company gives 20 days use it or lose it So I use itYeah it would be cool to have the option to have them roll over but as it is now 20 days is less than Id like to use over the course of a year anyways so I always use them up|1 Nah my beds stay open|0 Heat gun could work|0 Im just carrying on as normal My work dont pay sick pay Im young 37 and healthy if I get the illness I just carry on to work How many people are in the same position as me Cant afford to take time off work SSP in the UK is 94 per week Not enough to survive on|1 Ill be sitting at home sipping whiskey with my supplies|0 Im in India right now Nobody gives a fuck My grandparents think Im overreacting because Im trying to get the fuck back to Canada asap since its not here They shut down schools but people staying indoors Nope As busy as ever in the streets This place is going to get slaughtered within the month Whats saving them right now is the government cares even if the people dont you cant get into India anymore as a foreigner|1 It gives people excitement in their otherwise boring mundane lives to dramatize the end of the world|1 All hail the glowcloud|1 Its definitely high clearance but not Area 51 which I dont know anything about think its just an airbase Its primarily a department of energy lab BUT energy science overlaps with defense science which is where it got the reputation you mention Have some friends that worked there and they do alot of cool stuff Mostly energy related like nuclear energy alternative energy and projects that overlap with DoD Notice that this article was funded by DARPA My guess is that the epidemiology group is there to use a supercomputer and because they can support things like algae growth for biofuel and some defense related projects that I wont speculate on There are several of these labs and the coolest might be Oakridge in small town Tennessee which was founded for the Manhattan Project And never meant to knock the lab or the group just think that a month into this thing may be too soon to try to roll out a published paper in a peer review journal|1 Can you disprove that in any way I mean things I said are easy to google|1 Modern day Canada never really had to deal with war massive terrorism pandemics or famine on its territoryYou do realize that in 2009 we had 35 million cases of swine flu and 3300 deaths Id go ahead and call that a pandemicThough I wouldnt really call that modern day I only had a flip phone back then|0 Ya when most headlines are doom and gloom its nice to see this from the front lines|0 How are you getting food Did you have enough warning to stock up Do you guys have a guess as to how long you will be in your current situation Do you have any specific advice for me here in the states on how I can be prepared for a quarantine|0 The government didnt scrutinize and its immigration control was poor leaving 50 percent of the Chinese arrivals out of contact There was also a lack of investigation into those who entered the country before the ban The day after declaring that all of these holes were left behind the 31st infection appeared Obviously its an arrogant blunder Its arrogant enough to overconfidence their policies and say the same thing as Trumps 15The government changed its health policy only after it happened At a time when things were barely calm the president declared that things were coming to an end again and a cluster of 100 people was found in Seoul The CDC and officials are doing their best but the rest of the government agencies are incompetent|0 My girlfriend is the same She still wants me to fly to see her in Spain in April since shes on her internship and I feel its putting a strain on our relationship sometimes Ive told her I have no idea what things are going to look like in that time but she calls me crazy and says Im overthinking|0 I used to think about this a lot but it just isnt true 2 people can have the same intelligence There are lots of people out there with average intelligence|1 Tremendously inappropriate Hes not some brave journalist hes a voyeur and a public nuisance|0 I worked in an H1N1 Clinic in 2009 it killed about 500000 people world wide and I guess it was because I had full PPE that I wasnt worried or scared But if I was in Italy right now working without good PPE and other precautions Id be pretty damn scared|0 Sounds like a perfect candidate for experimental drugsvaccines|1 Hey Icy thanks so much for all the updates really appreciate it and hope your parents are doing ok too Just wondering what will happen with everyones employment if the lockdown continues for several weeks or possibly even months How will you work or earn a living wage to pay for the cost of living during this time Will the government provide your food and water|1 I dont get the panic over water are the taps going to stop flowing Is it the apocalypse Thats a little silly|1 At least they stopped the requirement for students to visit the doctor to be allowed absence from classes till August 1st I certainly see a mix of mishandling the situation but then also recognizing containment measures that are clearly well thought and if not at least well meaning|1 Just to clarify does this mean people who vape nicotine like Juuls or other vape juices with 5 nicotine are more likely to become infected or have more severe symptoms if infected|0 Im already boycotting eating out bc i dont want to get infected by eating food prepared by some unfortunate sick worker who doesnt have the luxury of staying homeExecs who arent proactive on this are morons They will get butchered by media if people get sick bc the workers cant afford time off|0 I dont think hospitals will accept donations of medical supplies unless they are in the approved list|1 Got 3 questions which are unrelated to eachother1 Since this is a completely new virus to the human body how long yearsgenerations will the human body take for it to become more effective at fighting the virus As our immune system learns how to fight it will the effects of the virus be milder less ICU cases less severe pneumonia Will the first vaccine be enough to prepare the body for future COVID19 infections2 Statistically which mode of transport is more effective at spreading the virus planes or cruise liners3 Realistically is the mortality rate really lower than WHOs figures Does WHO take in consideration by AI simulationsdata models etc people who show no symptoms and therefore dont report anything to their doctor in their mortality rate|0 I agree As a nurse practitioner doing clinical rounds it has been a big point of concern for me to not only treat patients but to help people know what they might need to do at home It is true right now contact precautions of handwashing are the most important But I was disappointed with the surgeon generals dismissive and paternalistic Twitter statement of seriously people stop buying masks The institutions have ways to get what they need above and beyond what can be sold to the public I think officials dont appreciate that many people have already moved beyond what our government is telling us and realize there will be community spread Many people are realizing that they will have to take care of sick family members at home especially if our hospitals get overcrowded Many members of the public might become temporary healthcare workers this year just from the demands of taking care of sick family members You have a right to try protect yourselves and take care of your family|1 And youre a keyboard warrior I did back up my reply and it doesnt come off as arrogant to be educated Sorry if you arent as smart as you wish to be|0 Its a good document One point you could considering adding though is thatBecause its still flu season hospitals are already busy with flu patients This means its extra important for the next month or so that we do our part to avoid spreading the new virus|0 Except a recession would lead to a lot deaths too|0 Nah dude Keep all that blood for yourself|0 It was common to have 56 kids and only 1 of them to survive Good natural protection|1 Oh good I have six months worth ramipril in my drawer|1 They also passed a law this week allowing police to detain anyone they suspect has Coronavirus as opposed to testing them for it first before detainingSource Big Extreme if true|0 This the point of the Trump admin Make the government look like fools so we lose faith in government organizationsOh look here come corporations to save the dayFucking filthy oligarchs are killing people for many yet again and were here fucking arguing about it|0 I have some sympathy for the organizers Im not familiar with this particular convention but I do go to a particular one regularly GateCon for Stargate fans Its not run by a company its run by fans and the profits go to charity It costs the organizers thousands of dollars in advance to book the hotel arrange guests etc and Im assuming they would lose it all if they cancelled I wouldnt want that to happen|1 Hold the Pence Prayer Circle right before the starting gun goes off All will be fine|0 Not sure about now but 2 or so days ago there were 35 potential vaccines to be tested listed on WHO site The whole world is working on this shit theyll figure it out Not today not tomorrow and probably not as soon as we actually need it but eventually|0 Exactly its not like surgical masks are a tight fit eitherPersonally Im down to wear a shamagh to work|1 Im not christian and was not defending the church but taking offense at you painting porn hub as heroes if you must know theyre scum tooRead the article they do nothing to check consent age or identity of uploader And it was much more than one girl|1 I agree|1 Also we have absolutely no idea how many people are infected that never showed andor never will So the real death rate is probably much lower|0 Local govts are cash starved because of the no taxes rhetoric Thats a huge part of it Since the 70s per capita spending has actually fallen drastically Its why schools and bridges are falling apartYou want infrastructure and working govt Pass taxes Stop giving tax breaks to billionaires and companies Elect people who dont hate govt|0 And you didnt care to report it to a health office or get tested Did you at least try and selfquarantine|0 what did the 3 people do that stopped them not getting infected|1 Please can it be Piers Morgan or Katie Hopkins|1 Because I noticed a pattern Conservatives purposely appoint people who dont know how to run things and defund them and then point to things not running well as proof that government is never the solution Youve been doing it for 50 years|0 I hear that I work with remote virtual servers at a tier1 research university in the US For some reason I must be present in my office to keep my chair from escaping during work hours|1 Do you have any idea how disruptive a widespread 2 death rate would be Thats an order of magnitude larger than influenza deaths|0 Do you not have a stronger hypothesis then The facts are two people were infected with a virus that has the same sequence They hadnt crossed paths and are separated by time Those are the facts What is an alternative explanation better than Bedfords Im not interested in your feelings about any of this just what is a better hypothesis|0 But what if Trump dies too The man is in his 70s just like Bernie and BidenThen what would that leave Pence vs Buttigieg That would be a very bizarre pairoff for reasonsCrazy scenarios and I doubt every old politician is going to die if this spreads but its not outside the realm of possibility I suppose|0 Uhhh yeah Google Doug Ford|1 I came down with some sort of flu this summer Saw a doc twice First time got steroids which i think made things worse Then got antibiotics the second time to deal with the secondary sinus and respiratory infections They never even gave me a flu test|0 I sneeze like 10 times a day everyday Certainly not a sign someone has the coronavirus|1 The fuck you talking aboutThe young are prioritised because its the ethically right thing to do not because they earn more money|0 My daughters friend tested positive And also her roommate Havent heard how she is doing or if she infected anyone else|1 HES GLOWING HES NOT HARD TO SPOT|1 Hi hola I am just wondering if I better skip my trip to Spain I am afraid to sit hours in a plane where the air space can be contaminated I still have ten days to decide But I feel it is better to skip this or postpone it as I am over60|1 If it was that bad we need to know|0 Its a shame that the US government is acting so nonchalant about thisShh no positive cases Only stocks now|0 The US has seen the mess in China and still decides to lie|0 Expect to go out with the risk of catching the virus and never seeing a hospital|0 RIP all supermarkets lmao|1 Well I know my friend teaching at UBC in going totally online from next week Where do you teach|1 I work at a university and I have heard nothing except that the risk remains low and the custodial staff is working to sanitize everything I have seen no evidence of this Students are on spring break right now but staff is on campus|0 Im a teacher and found the same thing Was always sick the first few years Like right now we have both influenza A and B at school and Ill feel like Im coming down with something tired muscle aches and by the next morning I feel fine again Teachers in their first few years miss way more time for being sick than everyone else|0 To be honest I think this wouldve spread globally regardless All it takes is one infected I suspect thats why a lot of the western countries werent doing much they probably all knew they couldnt eradicate it unless they put in a ton of resources|0 I mean if youre experiencing close contact with the infected I certainly would Im going to a large extent off of the PPE Ive seen in place in Wuhan Theres a staggered system thats almost like triage due to the shortage of Tyvek like materials blown nonwoven impermeable and masks and EVERYTHINGFrom watching documentaries and videos you can see that theres a system in place The most highly infectious or those with the most need of critical care where patient contact is high those workers have the best protections They have sealed goggles respirators full suit with hood multiple layers of gloves Everything sealed Airtight more or less Very little exposed tissues of any sortNext is the less critical wards where you see the PPE level has dropped a defcon level Theres slightly more exposed skin Theres more emphasis on droplet than airborne Again it seemed to depend on patients needs If the patient has to be movedintubated things might go up or down But things seemed to be in short supplyLastly were the door to door quarantine checkers and delivery people The quarantine workers just had eyeglass covering goggles the clear ones with wraparound Not sealed Not fit for airborne protection The had less efficient looking masks had less overall covering still suited but more exposed skin I dont recall if gloved and seemed to rely as much on social distancing as their PPEIts been eye opening to see just how infectious this isThe west is just learning|1 Another Princess ship How shit are they at cleanliness and hygiene|0 Yep Im betting a lot of people wont go until theyre on deaths doorstep already|1 Both of these statements are accurate It hit a senior care home first That will skew numbers Theres probably 5000 cases or so in WA right now Im starting to get over my suspected case UW primary care concurs Still cant get tested I am in queue with the infectious disease team I imagine elderly come first|1 How is cancelling cruises even remotely equivalent to a militaryenforced quarantine Really thats some world class stupid level of thinking|0 I felt like a tinfoilhat wearing lunatic when I started prepping midFeb I feel like a damn genius right now LOL|1 In light of no vaccination and it might be years before a vaccination is available what should the government do Lock us all in our houses until one is produced Staggered lockdowns is what they appear to be trying What I wish they had done was instill a little bit more fear into people The Its the flu crowd have caused serious problems Nobody is taking the virus seriously Theyre taking the potential lockdown and loo roll shortage seriously but not the virus itself That speaks volumes about society|0 This is very hindsight Just like when HIV could be stoppedbut it aint happening|1 Some good news finally|1 Wow who knew that doing absolutely nothing could cause so much spread s|1 No his foreign policy is terrible from what I remember|0 I hope you mean isopropyl alcohol|1 Im a retired flight Paramedic Keep it simple No wifi or non absolutely freaking essential electronics This is disaster medicine coming our way give me something that pumps and blows|0 Dont sort by new Problem solved|0 20 severe condition of which 50 develop critical state of healthSo around 10 end up in ICU in critical condition sounds about right|0 Clinical data show that many people across all age groups end up in ICU for oxygen therapy Im getting tired of posting this same thing all over tiktok and this is my last time posting this Take care yourself yall|1 I am sure it is everywhere we are just seeing it|1 Yes we are the total lockdown ends march the 25th but I think its going to be procrastinated Then school supposed to re open the 3rd of april but it wont happenI feel that its going to be very long In a very good scenario well be free to go out at the end of May in my opinion|1 Shit Is it that easy I have no concept of what its like to live in a rational functioning society|0 Lmaoactually lol thanks|1 Is this one going to be The Flu then|0 Taiwan also imposed restrictions on masks exports early in the outbreak One of Singapores stateowned companies had a mask factory on Taiwan and this was right when cases started popping up in Singapore too The Singaporeans ended up disassembling the factory and shipping it back home Guess there werent restrictions on export of mask factories|0 what exactly is a super spreader and why are they that|1 nowhere near as bad as in iran in the us you can criticise religion and the ruing class elected officials can actually change things at a fundamental level resistance to change is purely from love of money as opposed to dogmatic religious ideology|1 According to the CDC its recommended if you dont have a tissue httpsyoutubemQINuSTP1jIIts not 100 effective not even a mask but its better than spraying it out into the open for someone to walk through|1 This went out to Ontario Dentists todayRoyal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario strongly recommends that all nonessential and elective dental services should be suspended immediately Emergency treatment should continueLink herehttpswwwrcdsoorgencarcdsomembersdispatchmagazinearticles5286|0 I dont have to Its Government policy based on CMO DHSC and NIHR guidance If you have a better model evidence or clinical trials then you show some evidence But we all know you are shooting crap from the hip presumably for political reasons or just that you are misinformed and emotional|0 This is why the EU is a joke What good is a union when they abandon you in a crisis|0 Yeah this is gonna get really ugly We arent prepared for this at all|0 Why is China Trying To Blame USA All Fingers Point At Wuhan Chinahttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoi101002jmv25751utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfhttpsjviasmorgcontent8241899utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfAll Chinese Scientist mixing Carp and Bat Genomes that introduce yes Corona Virus Aka HIV SARSIdentification of Coronavirus Sequences in Carp cDNA from Wuhan ChinaJournal of Medical Virology published March 11If confirmed with other research it suggests SARS2 might be a product of genetic engineering Bats and carp dont consort that much in nature This is being low key censored because it would make the public go ape shitEDIT to add the following excerptSARSCoV2 were identified in two separate cDNA pools The first pool was from a Carassius auratus crusian carp cell line and the second was from Ctenopharyngodon idellagrass carp head kidney tissue 6 7Turns out both these samples to the database were submitted from WuhanSo lets examine some of the coincidences so far a new bat derived coronavirus appears in a market close to the only lab in China known to be working with bat derived corona viruses the new virus has a bizarre genetic overlap with the carp genome the carp genome was submitted by researchers working out of Wuhan the new virus has slight but functionally important genetic similarities to HIV not a smoking gun but the only coronavirus with said mutation but wait no there is one in nature with this mutation published Jan 20 after the outbreak started from researchers working out of you guessed it WuhanI wont explicitly say it because people get banned and censored for doing so and more importantly these days I am happy if I can simply get my aged mother and people like her to avoid gatherings and wear a mask I dont want to distance myself further from the mainstream narration There isnt too much to be gained focusing on the origin at this point That will need to come later though We want to deal with this in a way that doesnt devolve into letting nukes flyPosting this from somewhere else Not my original comment|1 How do you explain South Korea then Even less death rate than China You dont seem to understand how China pooled the whole countrys medical stuff and resources into Hubei equivalent of EU hypothetically helping Italy But in reality Italy is aloneEdit less death not more|0 Yep wish we could at least get a national state of emergency national school closures K12 airports shutdown ban on large gatherings and mandatory quarantine on anyone flying in from the hot zones|0 Not how it works Data centres have backup gens They do not run all night on batteries and absolutely 100 cannot do so A UPS will provide about 1020 minutes of runtime before depleting its battery And thats on a good day Theyre usually intended for the switchover to a backup gen or to survive short power cuts Wireless routers switches and modems all require power the same as anything else They do not run off of the phone network In a datacentre sure maybe I can see them running a wifi router back in 2003 off of a backup gen but your local starbucks certainly wouldnt 80211g wasnt even rolled out until the summer of 2003 Much of the equipment in use back then would have been 80211ab which was slow as shit and most laptops with wifi access had PCMCIA cards sticking out the side They certainly werent energy efficient Who is providing the power for this city wide blackout wifi mesh Wouldnt that spare energy be better spent on lightingAnd millions of servers Millions of servers A large data centre has on the order of tens of thousands of machines Did your little sister work there Where was it What company was this|0 Please share your experience in rCoronaVirusTX too|1 Thats interesting Im just saying the fact that this is blowing up in Iran like it is and not other places is odd|1 I completely agree with you Ive been harping on it all last week I see no reason not to move forward Act quickly thats better than being right The contrast between h1n1 in 2009 and this pandemic is h1n1 was responded to fairly well You cant really compare the two directly But people looked at it and thought it was nothing So the WHO under reacted terribly The leadership should go to prison|0 This is seriously stupid Some people who werent wearing a mask got the virus just by talking to a person who was wearing a mask in an elevator if you dont believe me this actually happened in Korea and you can search it up And if you say America is different or those bullshit you really are stupid|0 The WHO approved tests in germany cost 250 to produce and about 10 for the full test including labor etc Taht price is just unbelievable|1 I just came up with this today If you had a million new infections tomorrow would that change the mortality rate of the disease No Therefore you have to either be Dead or Healed That is the only way to determine mortality Simple logic|0 I know I watched I stayed in Malaga for the last 25 days Im a D list tech celebrity and get to speak all over the world Lol|1 Wow replace swine flu with Coronavirus and you wouldnt be able to tell the difference An expert predicted 120 million people could die of swine flu The media are vile|0 Harris and Fort Bend County are still playing travel history gameI postulate that Montgomery County officials have morals and they wouldnt participate in the ongoing coverup I think investigative journalists should explore this dynamic If true I imagine that animosity exists toward Montgomery County for not falling in line Note I am speculating|1 Thats because there arent 5 corporations profiting off of your misery there so youre paying the actual cost|0 Already seeing some countries doing it I just posted some thoughts on it above though Im no doctor nor scientist|0 Why didnt you just say yes he came into contact with someone with the virus Wouldnt that automatically qualify him for a test|1 Wasnt there sexual harassment in the Mavs office for 2 decades I love what hes done in business but its crazy he gets away with sexual harassment in his own workplace for 7400 straight days 20 years|1 One thing to keep in mind The doctors in ItalySK and China are just using the stuff By the time the data comes through the tidal wave will pass Im at a US NE hospital and we had a conversation about handing 12 200mg Hydroxychloroquine tabs to any presumptive patient over 60 4 tabs day 1 2 tabs day 25 per Dutch guidelines Downside risk minimal compared to ICU vent on day 7|0 How is the R0 factor calculated in a case like this What would it be|1 I have definitely experienced tight chest difficulty breathing issues from anxiety for several days However I dont want to tell you what you are experiencing as you know best how you feel Please be cautiousIf it is anxiety maybe not follow the coronavirus news for a few days I have found its made my anxiety kick up a bit and I have to take breaks|1 The easiest way is using MSI Afterburner which works with any vendor despite being MSI software Once its running you just adjust the slider on the main menu and click apply|1 Omg Lol Thought it was from a soap opera|1 Great news and thanks for sharing|1 You dont show symptoms immediately They are including people in the incubation stage which can be up to 2 weeks in that number|1 For better or worse the actions of one idiot will affect us all The people who wont listen can infect a lot of people who are trying their best So I would say yes make sure you and your loved ones are taking every precaution but its not a waste of time to try to convince someone else|1 Nice analogy|1 Lots of issues Ethical issies aside Ideal experiment would deliberately infect people with SARS 2 virus Then give some patients a placebo give other patients the chloroquine Double blind and randomized etc Presumably you deliver the drug following the incubation phase If you study patients who are already infected you need to check viral load for a period of time to see it is in the increasing phase then give patients either chloroquine or a placebo Either way those results will take a few weeks as it seems COVID 19 Can last for weeks You need to prove the treatment reduces disease length symptoms and viral load The other issue is you want to rest viral load many times per patient Each test you do potentially reduces the available reagents for a diagnostic test|1 No the boat that carried the peel man dropped off all those passengers but they sailed off with a second set of passengers for another cruise those passengers have the 235 Canadians they are all currently stranded on the boat due to a quarantine since there were positives on the ship from feb 1121 and all employees might have been exposed so despite no positive currently on the boat they are all in quarantine|1 Cant just tell everyone to stay home Society would collapse within a week|0 The newest pandemic in the USA should be peoples blood boiling when they read this Thats criminal|0 What The Actual Fuck|0 Kung flu ying yang spiny thang|0 My family were sick of it too and laughed st my prepping until the news started to get a bit more serious And today the news is reporting that from next week vulnerable people accross the UK are going to be told to self isolate for their own protectionThe media is not scare mongering It is so serious that we have actually been told by the government to have 2 weeks supply of food at home even though they previously said no need to panic buy You are in the right here|0 Thats the shit Im talking about Were out here exposed while all upper management is working from home or taking long vacations while we are out here at risk Exactly what my CEO COO CHRO are doing right now Work from home has already been implemented and some workers have already been sent home but I wasnt on the list and so my boss the CHRO got mad at me for asking and now Im using my PTO to take time off until they figure it out Still grateful for the opportunity and im grateful to still have a job as I see a lot of others have it much worse Still frustrating wish we had a more equal level playing field|1 Naturally occurring Lmao More like leaked out of a level 4 lab|1 Hows that quote go Dont attribute to malice what can easily be attributed to incompetence I should Google but too lazy |0 and I get down voted in the Canada and Toronto sub reddits when I say thats a low number|0 I can throw in my 10 HP Proliant servers as well Yay for research |1 I also bought coffee 8 Costco size bags of coffee Should be good until August |1 Take care now|1 The World Cup is a low blow|0 You got a ticking demographic bomb Maybe the goverment let it go|0 Pride vanity at stake for most|1 Almost triple you meanEdit misread|0 Word it as secession hahaha Priceless|1 U sir deserve an award|1 So you think the United States is who we should be wary ofBut we should still allow direct flights from china and iran|1 Chloroquine has not been approved as a treatment for COVID19 is not really accurate as its on the Chinese and Korean treatment guidelines and some other places|0 What did testing asymmetry Idris Elba accomplish He should have just stayed home when he realized he came in contact with someone At least thats what everyone keeps telling the regular old citizens while the rich and powerful keep getting tested for no reason at all This rule either applies to everyone or no one|1 Italy cancelled everything the moment they caught the outbreak Even regions that had nothing to with the affected area closed their schools Try to inform yourself instead of saying bullshit|0 Horrible to imagine how many people will spend the last days of their lives in those conditions scared uncomfortable trapped and with none of their loved ones by their side That video really puts things in perspective|0 Its like how some companies announce bad news on Saturdays so that the market has time to digest the news before the market opens on Monday Or some people have news conferences right before the close of the market so that theres a positive kneejerk reaction which may or may not be there on Monday|1 Wont stay home whenever possible moronic|0 I fear he is right This is just the beginning|0 Niggas laughing but aint a damn thing funnyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv44KoO0yjfos You gotta have paper in this land of milk and honeyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv44KoO0yjfos Yeah its bright outside but not necessarily sunnyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv44KoO0yjfos And no matter how you make it its all dirty money babyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv44KoO0yjfosAll governments are amoral collectives that will murder millions without hesitation if it were deemed to be necessary In the last hundred years democratic countries have bombed and killed millions of civilians starved the poor and embargoed critical medicinal supplies from entering a country killing the poor just to weaken a regimeThey have dismantled foreign democratic institutions installed dictators supported genocide and have been ignoring international law since international law has existedDont get it twisted geopolitics is all fucked Democracy or communist makes no difference Theres no room for ideology|0 Pretty accurate I say|1 Thats a long time to try to hide an illness when our countries are so connected by various means of long distance travel|0 Same thing happened for my Denver conference I cancelled the day if and recieved a full 500 redund Airbnb was actually super reasonable and niceunlike United and Air Canada which are complete fucking trash companies|1 I loved listening to all the idiots on this subreddit trying to excuse and explain away why the CDC had stupidly strict requirements before they would allow someone to get tested Things like you need to have come in contact with a known infected person or come from very specific parts of the world Thank god the UK super spreader wasnt American because he wouldnt have been allowed to get tested|1 Exactly You want to see panic Just let this virus spread like crazy so you dont flatten the curve and people will get sent away from the hospital to go die at home when the healthcare system collapses under the immense sudden demand Its so infuriatingly ignorant that Im starting to wonder how much of it is deliberate How hard is it to see whats happening in Italy What happened in China We had so much time to prepare and yet here we are|0 We have one of the most corrupt and inept governments in history with control of information concerning this virus led by a Christian evangelical who doesnt even beleive in science and whose responsible for the largest HIV epidemic in Indiana due to his ignorance As much as I want not to believeI fear the US already has thousands of infected people|0 Apparently if you are a celebrity or wealthy you can get tested In Arizona we have only tested 200 people Considering how many people go back and forth to California we have a lot of cases Our state has admitted we have community spread We need more tests Where are the tests|1 Is it good or bad in the long term|0 oops I meant rudimentary basic archaic english is not my first language sorry|0 Very insensitive on our part to expect people in authority to work 247 Dont forget there are people behind these institutions too with families|0 I said he all but said that When he was asked on stage who he preferred as president Warren or Trump his answer was a hesitation and then saying whichever is more professional You can look it up yourself|0 I appreciate you posting this|1 Someone who actually speaks Korean said below that the article doesnt mention multiple organ failure at all Can you remove this|0 Sure those are all valid points It doesnt change the fact that other scientists havent taken a look at this to see if it holds water although I have a feeling that if they do a subset of posters here will dismiss them Its more exciting if the virus was manmade|1 He is a huge disappointment httpsglobalnewscanews6625646justintrudeausurpriseguestatcitizenshipceremonyamp|0 Interesting resultI would use a relative frequency change ie percentage or calculated R0 to show a relationship exists Showing total cases would be assuming transmission happened at the same time with the same number of people infected in the same population density can we know that Versus R0 which is the average number of people an infected person spreads the disease Also behavioral differences matter too How many social events are scheduled with how many in attendance would be an interesting confounding variable to explore in terms of social distancingEdit another thing you could do is correlate the number of cases seen in SoCal at 03042020 with NorCal at 02262020 That way you can see if the doubling time is the same as it does look like to me that the virus had spread more in NorCal before SoCal|1 So If nobody knew that the Corona virus had a fancy name they would assume they had a common viral respiratory infection They would be correct Calm down and live your life Dont cough on people|1 Uvc light is extremely energetic and can bounce This is also why the terminal room cleanings that use these towers rely on 30 min cycles|1 Im in Washington Bothell and our school just closed today for the rest of the week and probably for the next two weeks is what I saw but that might change Im so glad they did so many sick people showed up to school yesterday and many students arent taking the coronavirus seriously I probably wouldve skipped today if school hadnt closed|0 Well I tried honey |1 Except I am here in Salt Lake and cant manage to get a test because I had a sore throat even though I meet every other symptom and traveled from a conference on Friday|0 Absolutely Youve got to imagine that if they were generally at a higher risk for getting the virus those numbers would be even higher too It does look promising and this is what I have been trying to search for Im thankful to see this My husband and I have both had scratchy throats and postnasal drip My nose has been on and off stuffy then runny I was looking at pollen count and due to the warmer weather on Friday pollen count was high so Im hoping its just that I had to quit my job recently and have been nearly bed ridden for almost 2 months because of how sick Ive been so I havent been exposed to many people My husband works down at the Port of Tacoma though which definitely makes me more concerned He also has no option to work from home since it is manual labor He definitely is not nearly as concerned as I am and therefore isnt following precautions as stringently as I wish he was Are you delivering at a hospital or birthing center then I had posted on here a few days ago about this exact thing and another gal said that she called her hospital and asked what their current plan and protocol for their obstetrics patients were and then contacted birthing centers in her area as a back up plan in case things get crazy at the hospital Im thinking that may not be a bad idea I also wonder about my other prenatal visits Im supposed to go in for bloodwork on the 16th and then a monthly check on the 24th I definitely dont want to expose myself to this unnecessarily though Its really hard to make decisions when there are so many unknowns I do not envy any government military or medical leaders in situations like this|1 It could very well be different because we still know so little about it For example it could be like Dengue fever where the second infection can be much nastier than the firstOn first infection most people have relatively minor symptomsfever and muscle and joint pain For many people a second infection is similar to the first but for a third group a second infection can cause what has come to be known as dengue hemorrhagic fever or dengue shock syndrome DHFDSS|0 Probably not the only thing a lot of them will be catching as well|1 I think it looks great Thank you for doing this I definitely appreciate having a visual to put this all in perspective|1 Im white yes it does Older white people in general much more so shame masks than other races sorry to say White people find it to be a culture shock even when I went to Korea for the first time Im ngl I thought the masks were weird af Now I get it completely|0 He has said testing would ramp up this week for the last month He keeps saying well be able to test a million people by the end of the week He is either incompetent or lying and either option should have him replaced|0 The nationalists have grown from 4 in 2010 to about 25 today Probably because theyre the only party thats been critical of the large immigration and the only party raising concerns about its costs and effects on society In 2010 this was labelled as dark and racist by the other parties but today most other parties have adapted the nationalists concern including the social democrats This has legitimised the nationalists something tremendousThe nationalist party is also a former Nazi party back in the 90s and over the last 10 years theyve toned down a lot of the rhetoric around racial essences and such which has increased their mainstream appeal People used to stay far away from associating with the party due to their Nazi past but nowadays most people dont care Its probably been overused as a label for the last two decades on everything critical to immigration so its like open borders or be a Nazi and people are picking the latter because the former is bringing a lot of problems|1 In Belgium they have declared total lockdown of all nonessential activities and storesbarsrestaurants while we only have like 450 confirmed cases I believe this is a needed precaution and hopefully it will decrease the number of people infected|1 What do they do wrong|0 A strike isnt any more of a crowded event than going grocery shopping and standing in line Have you ever been in one Edit Its actually less of a crowded event than that more like walking on the sidewalk when other people are also walking on that same sidewalk so acutally not a crowded event There I said it|1 Theres 1 guy in there doing all the wooos keeping the magic alive|1 So what does it mean when doctors start saying its pretty fucken bad|0 How many will die from the ICU being full with covid The beds are mainly occupied during normal times operations many can be cancelled strokes heat attacks etc Its far more complicated than just flatten|0 okay thanks for the help|1 I am from Serbia can confirm But it was worse in the 90s it was like 95 of all people including school children used to smoke cigarettes back then I was given a cigarette as 7 year old actually they put it in my mouth and lighted I started to cough uncontrolably and that was the first and the last time I dealt with cigarettes or smoking in general It is the most disgusting human habit IMHO I hate people who smoke in front of me on the streets I am always giving them looks Have a lot to thank to my first forced encounter with smoking that I never picked on drugs or pot and because coffee often accompanies smoking I do not drink coffee|0 Definitely|1 Yup I think this is going to start to get bad I live in Victoria so Ive been sideeyeing the news since the first confirmed case was announced|0 Seriously This is typical reddit behavior They just care for being right Declaring a pandemic does nothing but let them say We did it Reddit It will literally change nothing and might make matters worse This sub is a fucking shit show|0 My wife wants to call her dads church They are like 80 senior citizens|1 Trying to not get sick and die racist|0 Which is why every other league has refused to sell him a team|0 im thinking 1000 fines and they are exempt from any government subsidies to help with the virus|1 There are 7 people sick in my county rn two in my town and schools are still wide open|0 A N95 that is not fitted would do you more harm than good|0 I really dont see why we cant be competitive here|0 Shows the sub is just a bunch of doomers trying to scare the shit out of unsuspecting passers by|1 Carry hand sanitizers with you then go wash thoroughly Soap and water is the best because it removes the virus hand santizers just kill viruses and and even then not necessarily all of the virusLots of videos online showing proper handwashing technique|1 I am a Gen Xer and my partner is a Boomer We are both very liberal and very much support Medicare for all Please dont lump all of us old people into the same stereotype|1 No you cant have it both ways but thats over 7 million test kits in ten days being produced Do you honestly think that with that kind of production capacity they need to produce that many kits in a short time for less then a tenth of that amount of cases being confirmed or suspected Pull your head out of the sand|1 FYI the 1 mile radius zone is not even close to downtown New Ro it is in the opposite direction in one of the nicer suburban areas I live in the zone Woooo|1 Oh noooooo Im a big assumer Im wrong sometimes but it be like that Gotta take to give and all that|1 They just got their first case someone from the Grand Princess cruise ship|1 One of these 3 targets is conserved in old SARS as well as SARSCoV2 This is useful in case 1 old SARS really pops up somewhere or 2 SARSCoV2 mutates enough to fail to be detected by the other targetsThe WHO testhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronaviruseprotocolv21pdfsfvrsna9ef618c2 is similar and all the probes primers and targets are public The E gene target will be positive for SARS and SARSCoV2 The RdRp gene has two probes one will be positive for both one is specific to SARSCoV2|1 Billie Yeah Im not surprised|1 From WHO From a risk communications perspective using the name SARS can have unintended consequences in terms of creating unnecessary fear for some populations especially in Asia which was worst affected by the SARS outbreak in 2003For that reason and others WHO has begun referring to the virus as the virus responsible for COVID19 or the COVID19 virus when communicating with the public Neither of these designations are intended as replacements for the official name of the virus as agreed by the ICTVSource httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019technicalguidancenamingthecoronavirusdiseasecovid2019andthevirusthatcausesit|0 Has he made any public appearances at all recently Are the photos being published for the past few days from recent events I am curious to find out if these live streams will have any context that could verify they were not prerecorded I am fully aware how nutty this sounds but gentleman this are nutty times and we should expect nutty things to happen|1 Ive been totally confused on why India doesnt get ravaged by stuff like this Thanks for your post It gives me a little hope for India|1 Now we can see if global temperatures rise without those polution stopping the sun warming the earth|1 Yeah it would make sense to exclude people from KS in your example But the average American who sees an Asian guy speaking Chinese is likely gonna assume theyre from China not from a certain state It would lead to not only Chinese nationals getting excluded but also ChineseAmericans who havent even been to China|0 Huh weird How old is that machine|0 Fluronavirus Corona beer can thank me later|1 As a citizen of Taiwan this absolutely does matter China cannot and does not represent us This same style of misinformation was spread during the 2003 SARs outbreak which potentially lead to extra unnecessary deaths here because we were required to get our information first from the Chinese government who gave us delayed and censored information It was so bad that eventually the United States had to send US CDC officials directly to Taiwan and personally inform our government with the latest information from the WHOhttpswwwnaturecomarticles422652aTaiwanese researchers say they have also struggled to obtain materials such as diagnostic reagents To test Taiwans 23 probable SARS cases for the coronavirus thought to be responsible researchers wanted to use antibody tests distributed by the WHO We were told to go to Beijing says ChienJen Chen an epidemiologist at National Taiwan University and chair of the islands SARS advisory committeeThe WHO says its hands are tied because Taiwan is not a member Iain Simpson a WHO spokesman in Geneva says that the organization arranged for Taiwan to receive a visitor from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta Georgia one of its collaborating centres Theres little more that we can do he adds|0 Prayers for your friend and her family I cant imagine the fear and sadness of those in Wuhan|1 But you guys couldnt even beat Ethiopia smh s|0 US is on par for over a thousand new cases daily right now Get ready for a spike|1 If its only 25 effective imagine the relief that would bring to hospitals Opening up near 3000 beds in Italy over a few days would be huge for them And thats not even counting the people who were well enough to just monitor them and discharge them after a handful of days|1 This is going to get worse|0 Fascinating video The measures China and many other countries in Asia have taken to contain this virus are beyond impressive to me|1 And good riddance|1 Well when you have to pay 5002000 dollars to get tested why the fuck would you Id only be tested after I got to the point where I need to hospitalized|0 We have dangerously low resources and test kits and actions plans at the moment Currently all our supermarkets are being cleared out of all essentials|0 Ah yes 1100 is the value of a human life|1 Ive been to Erin Express It wont lol|0 Crazy situation to find a house with a basement in Van but yea Im a renter|0 Congrats|1 Why are people still listening to anything the white house says about anything I mean dude has been caught in a lie 20k times How many times do I have to lie to you before you no longer view me as credible How many lies until you disregard me completely I bet its not 20k|0 He likes rallies packed with mouth breathers its just a matter of time|1 Finally my relentless gaming was made me an upstanding citizen|1 They gave the propaganda number|0 Thanks I am sure too But I worry a lot about other people I fortunately have a big family that could take care of me indefinitely but thats not very dignified Ill be fine with a new job provided things dont totally fall apart but I do worry a lot about the average joe|0 Juvenile snivelling murdochites adept at electioneering adept at lying Crumble when confronted with reality View the general public as disposible and easily led Cattle to their slaughter|0 But he developed a new way to make it and i assume different materials Could be argued that he simply invented a new process|0 People are getting tested in my state and our state lab is running 247 The governor announced a state of emergency and advised schools to extend spring break for two weeks Churches arent having services in person and those that can are doing services online The only thing that hasnt happened is daycares are still running Im assuming that our dept of health will put out an advisory to close soon Hoping they will anyway We have people pushing to get our gaming commission to shut down casinos Colleges are finishing their semesters online We only have 10 cases So Im hopeful we are getting ahead of this|1 I think they are implying that Microsoft is a scam or its so bad that hes basically stealing peoples money|0 This is great news makes me happy Thanks for sharing here|1 Those people would say that all of these things are being done because of media hype Ive talked to these people and said the same thing well why are all these things being shut down And many of them think there is no good reason for it and this is all being done due to unnecessary panic|0 You better collect some very potent thoughts and prayers|1 Man Even Brazil is doing better|1 oh wow the true heroes huh where would people get the beer they need to survive|1 Or just stop putting any effort inHad a few teachers when I was growing up who followed your suggestions Kept 25 kids bored out of their minds for an hour learning almost nothingIm not convinced thats a good solution|0 Thankfully Im in a pretty good spot all things considered Im not interacting with too many people at work Live by myself Have no need to go anywhere like groceries for at least a month Should be okay even if I get it But Im already situated so I dont personally give this thing to my father or grandmother but in the highrisk range|1 Uh you might not want to know the answer to that question|0 And this gets weirder and weirder This is from wikipediaShincheonji is a controversial organisation frequently accused of being a culthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCult1httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenoteAY9hW12httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenoteT2D7N23httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenotex5NpU34httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenote7LqJ645httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenote3Y6ld5 It has over 120000 members6httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenoteTik7z6Shincheonji followers are taught to believe that Lee the founder is the second cominghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSecondcoming or the returned Jesus ChristhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiJesusChrist7httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenote7 Shincheonji claims that the Bible is written in metaphors which only its founder Lee can correctly interpret8httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenote8 Before founding his own religious movement Lee was a member of the group known as Olive TreehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiOliveTreereligiousmovement9httpsenwikipediaorgwikiShincheonjiChurchofJesustheTempleoftheTabernacleoftheTestimonycitenote9x200Bx200BFor those of you who arent Christian or familiar with the teachings of the Bible this is striking for this reason Matthew 24151httpswwwbiblegatewaycompassagesearchMatthew243A151versionESV As he sat on the Mount of Olives the disciples came to him privately saying Tell us when will these things be and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age And Jesus answered them See that no one leads you astray For many will come in my name saying I am the Christ and they will lead many astray x200BJesus has already warned us about this guy 2000 years agoJesus Christ will come again but when he comes again everyone will see Him coming in the sky The Bible foretells this and there have been tons of people who have had dreams and visions of it happening Just type in Jesus is coming dream on YoutubeSo this guy isnt Jesus but maybe the Antichrist Scary|0 I got the worst dirty looks Everyone thinks your either infected or being an asshole|0 Government Incompetent Redditors Shocked|0 I personally do but walking in public is still 1 in 10000 and people are looking at you as if you were mad|0 Is it going to take advantage of all my MPX modules on my mac pro just a question p|1 US you are fucking failure right now I am sick as fuck from the US and the dude that gave it to me still cant get a testWhy not use the military for the testing Have enough of that|0 Weve seen the panic at Whole Foods for over a week now It is unbelievable|0 Its not a documented complication so Im not too worried that its going to precipitate en masse|1 No actually it isnt Many countries in Europe have VERY effective and efficient socialized health care systems a large part of the effectiveness is determined by the political environment which directly impacts on investment|1 Wu Tang Clan aint nothing to fuck with this was foretold|0 Well sort of but that doesnt really apply to a 60 year old bear retirement who is liable in the bankruptcy or an older server|1 Wuhan has a population similar to NYC at 10million They started quarantining at 300 cases The army was sent in and temporary hospitals built Sick people were initially welded in their houses then later on sent to quarantine centers so they wouldnt infect their families 6070k got infected in Wuhan Many thousands died I dont believe official numbers Its probably higher NYC currently has 700 cases People arent wearing masks Schools are still open Theres no lock down GG|0 Oh that makes sense I wish our government would do something of the sort but I suspect there is White House pressure US and Canada could effectively have a similar situation if the US cancelled all non domestic and nonCanadian flights|0 People are still saying its just a cold lolHonestly fuck those people|0 Thank you Stay safe as well Well make it through this |1 Chandler AZ I am the only person wearing a bandana in public Went to store Friday AM and there was a nervous energy but everyone was ordered Most paper supplies sanitizers cold medicine and canned goods were goneLater in the day a friend reported all the chicken goneMy mom witnessed a stampede for a new box of toilet paper at a bashas and a woman cut her leg while scrambling My mom made it sound like she was being reckless it wasnt the crowds fault|1 so who infected the virus with the other is it the NBA player or the child|0 Lol hasnt he been in selfisolation since the day he was elected PM|1 Definitely You guys think like me and its nice to see Im not the only one|1 Worth giving a call and just chatting for an hour I did that a month before my mom died and still look back on it with a smile It might even boost her immune system a little for all I know|1 Dont you think that the fact that heads of agencies like the CDC being appointed based on political merit is a bigger issue|1 Another point other commentors arent making is that when you increase the price of a product it encourages consumers to conserve it Perhaps at a low price a person would buy 100 masks just because they can afford it when they really only need 10 thats not efficient If the price is raised by scalpers it encourages buyers to actually consider how much they need something and preserves the supply for the people who really need it the most eg the most desperate people will be willing to pay the highest price and scalpers ensure theyll be able to get a maskConsider the toilet paper shortages Right now people are just buying toilet paper for no real reason because they know they can use it later not because they need it When prices are raised by scalpers it punishes that kind of behavior and forces people to start making choices about what they need and dont need The same concept applies to the maskhigh prices avoid waste|0 The problem is the dude went to KZN If this thing happened in CPT you would have much better doctors involved much more public scrutiny and outcry at stupid statements|0 He literally has sent his entire staff home for at least two weeks suspended the rogue rocket show and his podcast httpsyoutubeRZMCOJoETM Ive done work supporting entire teams of video editors and dealing with their file sides and transfers is not only time and labor intensive but miserable to do on anything thats not a local fast area storage Hes literally doing everything in his power to keep making content so he can not only provide for his family but his employees and their families|0 If this is true we could be all infected yet|0 Well for some|1 So he thinks the thousands of dead and the millions in quarantine are somehow a media hoax How would that even work Fake bodies Crisis actors Just when did the media become so allpowerful anyhowIts so frustrating|0 If you dont run any tests theres no virus|0 Yes Hong Kong is doing exactly everything that you mentioned in the second paragraph to reduce the use of masks Soley rely on masks is impractical and not enough to control the infection We hope the authorities to say the honest reason for not recommending mass masking and take this opportunity to educate people well about other options to reduce infection from spreadingTo be frank South Korea Daegu and Italy North cities were locked down way quicker than Wuhan It took more than a month for Wuhan to be locked down while the virus has been spreaded to other places already|1 I am more sanguine The US is doing better at this point than any of the larger countries and ramping up quickly|1 Limiting your news resources is not as good as having a good bullshit detector for hype news and politically driven media|0 Anyone whos not a moron will see that Why isnt it priced in Honest question|1 Leave Go home Save yourself|1 It really depends on the scope Insurance companies indeed most businesses dont have the margins the uninformed sometimes believe they do It doesnt always take much to bankrupt a company Plus add in the likely scope of testing millions of people for example and the dollars add up Id lay money well see more than one insurer put out of business by this virus|0 I am so sorry for your loss please be well and thank you for sharing and looking out for others|1 No Im not 3 words you replied with 3 words I replied back with Tell me why Im wrong Show me why Im wrong Link me up The issue here is that the split is 5050 50 are knowledgeable on the virus and 50 are here just because Youre here just because Just because this place has easily become the echo chamber youre at home in|0 Would be a lot more heartening if it said as soon as they got sick they contact local health authorities|0 Let all the rich get first dibs on a brand new vaccine theres a good chance the earliest one will have errors that cause fatalities of its own|1 My diabetic dad is in his mid60s and is getting radiation 5 days a week for the cancerous tumor he had removed from his leg a couple months ago He works in tech in the Bay Area where there are many many cases He still refuses to stay home from work My dad is actually a very intelligent and rational guy so Im having trouble understanding why he wont stay home Hes absolutely in the highrisk demographic so Im very scared for him right now|0 Source httpswwwnewsweekcommikepencesprayitplancombatindianahivoutbreakresurfacesaftertrumptapsvplead1489344httpswwwnewsweekcommikepencesprayitplancombatindianahivoutbreakresurfacesaftertrumptapsvplead1489344 Basically you love the rapture hate gays drug users and blacks I need formatting help|1 We are fine at the moment But the exponential spread means well most likely be in trouble in 6 to 12 daysHard to predict since we arent testing enough to track it|1 I agree with all of you They want us to walk and not run|1 Until your fever gets too high and you fry your brain turning into that chinese security guy seizing on his desk|1 Haha what Sounds like youve caught a serious case of cant handle some basic facts|1 If you put something in a quote it have to be a true statement|1 Chloroquine is used as an immunomodulator for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and one of the proposed modes of action is downregulation of CD4 positive T cells Its not a massive leap to link that to reducing cytokine production and possibly T cell it is known to reduce IL1 production exhaustion so I dont know if I would rule it out as a secondary mechanismThat said yes endosomal pH modulation seems to be the primary mode of action so far|1 Not the lottery you want to win|1 depends what you want from life if you want a cushy job with little stress but you will hardly retire or become rich Sweden If youre much more ambitious and want to work hard make something of yourself or retire early US|1 I guess this is their way of cutting down on social security|1 I wish BNO would provide sources for stuff|1 Lol You guys should try Kingdom a Korean zombie series Season 2 just released the other day Perfect for this time|1 Support should come from the federal level asking business to pay on top of taking a huge hit from the virus itself will just kill every business then nobody has jobs So dumb|0 Its ok|1 ill be bugging in once my work allows me to Right now i still got to use public transport to get to work On the plus side i found out today my work trip across europe on the 23rd was cancelled|0 Its a kind of circular reasoning This new thing is like the flu I had something like the flu at xmas Therefore I had the new thing Therefore it is like the flu|0 Uh I got bad news for you bro but you wont be doing any of those things in a full lock down Either youll be playing offline or reading a bookEveryone and their mother will be trying to access the internet and that sucker is going down |0 I told people to get ready when China was put on lockdown Nobody listened not even my husband So I started prepping without him and now hes incredibly gratefulAll the others I told are frustrated as hell now without supplies|0 Its too late lmao There were several cases where people imported the virus from the USA|1 Arent we supposed to call an ambulance from home Why did this person possibly expose so many ppl transit clinic building etc |0 I am an IT administrator at a regional health care system in North Carolina Tomorrow I will be working with my boss to get sign off from our board of directors to develop an app This app will be a foodsupply donation and delivery app People who wish to donate foodsupplies will sign up with their address and those who are in need will likewise sign up Our hospital will be repurposing some healthcare workers and other vettedtested community members to be delivery drivers Essentially each user account associated with an address will be able to request meals andor supplies and the app will generate deliveries based on the available supplies offered in donation The donations will come from local food banks restaurants and individuals I wanted to see if you could publicize this I would love to share this app with other communities around the world I believe this app will serve three vital functions 1 provide food and services to those in need without increasing risk of spreading the infection 2 increase camaraderie and lift the general spirit of the community 3 able to be reused in future crises and perhaps even in every day life for those in need but unable to travel Feel free to reach out to me via DM for more information or if you wish to aid in the development of the appEDIT FYI this app will be fully open source and free No ads no profits whatsoever The app will be extremely lightweight with a rapid turnaround time Only large frontload of data required is a deidentified list of all residential addresses within a specific county|1 no|0 Best Buy employee here Weve had almost daily Corporate and Director level emails Hours are being reduced and commonly used objects wiped down regularly Additional paid leave for parents forced to stay home with kids|1 I had someone tell me it was a new strain of the common cold lol|1 my bad i just looked it up so Pelosi and Leahy are 3rd and 4th in line after Pence interesting|0 I have a feeling this will be a moot point soon Things are about to change drastically in the next week I bet many many schools will be closed right after March break I feel like were like Italy was 3 weeks ago|1 Eyewear is like 95 Italy|1 TY|1 Encapsulated viruses survive exposed to the elements for ten days Tell me more|0 I wish other stores and billion dollar companies would take the example of paying their employees|1 That death rate tho|0 I heard fevers are good|1 I appreciate the honesty here and thank you for taking care of people With that said Id be more than happy to have them shut down nonessential employment and stay my ass at home healthy and very far away from yours or anyones ER Prayers for you and your entire team|1 The experience of other countries shows that if the spread continues then your July concert is quite likely to be cancelled the authorities simply wont allow such mass events to be held|0 Everything you say could be true but this virus really doesnt care either way|0 yeah but the thing is the stock market is still sliding down record drops Its not like their bumbling efforts to cover up an epidemic catastrophe are working|0 I hope so but according to the article their problem is logistics|0 Contextually going to assume that youre young and healthy eg 2030This age group has a very very low chance of dying more like 11000 and even then were mostly going to be talking about people with underlying health issues eg immunocompromised The real issue here is that young people carry and propogate the outbreak until it infects people who are more vulnerable eg their elderly parentsgrandparentsetcAnyway when he returns hell need to quarantine for a few weeks and youll need to do the same unless you can deter him from going which is the ideal outcome or avoid coming into contact with him by eg finding a new roommate or staying in a hotel for a few weeks or whatever|0 I think the low death rate may have more to do with them do mass testing picking up people who are only mildly ill|0 Well you make a valid point but there may also be a lot of deaths that arent being picked up and just classified as pneumonia or natural causes We arent testing many dead bodies either so both sides could be inaccurate|1 OK interesting to know Im not a radiology expert but thatd still seem to be not too different from silicosis etc though httpsprodimagesstaticradiopaediaorgimages16557841bbdc0f9e78b9c97baf94fbb0e141a1galleryjpeg|1 Could be wrong but I read that a big reason for the infections on the cruise ships is that cruise ships apparently recycle air in cabins So basically you sneeze in your cabin and that gets sucked up and passed around to everybody else|0 Ill go 128 Which is probably wishful thinking|0 At this rate its going to be the rural areas that will be the worst off theyre so unprepared Even though theyre not crammed into a small space with a bunch of other people|0 yeah just like Italy 2 weeks ago Be ready for omg you were damn right cluster messages|1 I expect the suicides alone to eventually dwarf the direct deaths|0 Shortess of breath is normal when having the usual viruses The question is the degree Clearly they think it is mild|1 Honestly though no one in singapore even gives a shit about political freedom lmao like most of the people dont find many problems with the gov so we dont rly care|1 It forking is alright I totally lost count and Im not able to follow it anymore Cases are mounting by the minute Unbelievable Now with 15 million people being locked down in Italy as from today evening it just became another level of unbelievable|1 San Antonio here Typical shit missing in grocery stores HEB is pretty chill Target is better Yesterday my heb was out of milk and eggs but they had that today Im supposed to be relocating with the fam wife and two kids to south Florida at the end of the month and now Im not sure wtf were gonna do|1 Not at all defending them but companies like Kohls have HQs out of state Wisconsin in this case where the impact of the virus is not as well apparent Though they must not be paying much attention to the news outside their area Still inexcusable|1 80 hours by the end of the week not 80 hours already Ive worked 50ish now Tonight Saturday and Sunday Im working 12 hour shifts my actual full time job bringing my total to 86 hours The COVID clinic is just an extra job for me because theres no one else to do it|0 He will be infected in no time if he keeps up like this|0 Great info thanks|1 Get antibiotics to fight off secondary infections Are those sold otc in Singapore Obviously get someone else to buy them for you|0 I actually think the opposite that you are youre telling people they are going to be safe if they wear masksI havent seen anyone say anything remotely like thisThey say that it reduces risk of infection because it does|1 How the fuck are you supposed to buy masks Every store in my town is sold out and theyre not on Amazon|0 Theres no definition of whip that implies killing or deathI dont see how you are interpreting it as such Unless you see disciplining as a form of death which proves my initial point |0 My understanding was about 20 of cases are serious according to papers Ive readI have no idea where the 80 thing above is coming from Need a source or Im calling bullshit|0 Its a thought that surfaces to everyone I think but as you say they are people just have disagreements with No one should die before their time|0 Yeah this is what we are doing I run a manufacturing company in the US and this is our policy now If one person contracts covid we shut down entirely for two weeks and all employees get PTO|1 Genuinely asking here as I remember it being a big deal but was too young to remember the specifics Why is this outbreak not being compared to the Swine Flu in terms of fear I see in this graph it killed almost 200k people Thats terrifying But why is this outbreak being feared more Or it seems like it anyway Thanks|0 Thats all I want in a leader during a crisis|0 The president told them they are at very low risk|0 We have deadly diseases like thatThe problem is that we are getting one more first it was Bird Flu 20 years ago then Swine Flu 10 years ago now coronavirusThose Flus now and then have an outbreak and end up killing hundreds of thousands of people and that is sad They are becoming common like HIV and those diseases that didnt existed when our grandfathers were born|0 Hand washing is not propaganda It definitely aids to help slow spread if done properly|1 Iran is under a religious regime where information censoring is known to happen So not really surprisedEgypt Currently only 2 cases including 1 recovered So maybe just not testingAnd China Well many airlines have stopped Chinese flights So might have something to do with it|0 Yes I dont think seasonality will be anywhere near as effective as a lockdown But it would be nice to get both going on at the same time|1 So to visualise what causes the physical deathDo you simply choke to death or at the point of death or cannot breathe and pass out then dieWould you already be unconscious at this timeTheres not been much discussion about what goes on at the time of death|0 Happy cake day|1 Jesus My wedding is in early June and we are already accepting that it may have to cancel depending on how things pan out|1 Our good health comrade|1 They also dont go to school like we do I think they just do 2 years after bachelors and are considered doctors|1 I had a conversation like this earlier when a doctor at a bar told me that its just a flu thats not a big of a deal He said it will only really affect older people and people with preexisting conditions like it was no big deal I literally said Thats a lot of people I love Im not worried about myself Im worried about my family WTF is wrong with people|0 I meant more desperate people trying to give Jerry rugged oxygen at home think external oxygen masks not intubation If people get desperate and have no other options I can imagine some will try at least that|0 I think its partly a symptom of the kind of people who are likely to be visiting a coronavirus subreddit those who are the most worried who will naturally want more extreme action in order to feel safer Its human nature|1 The man has literally dedicated his life and billions of dollars towards fighting and eradication diseases|1 Oh sure lets get thousands of people together in crowded spaces dehydrate their bodies and weaken their immune systems and then send them on their merry way home to spread whatever they may have Natural selection at its finest|1 But it also only show tracked numbers from Sars and swine flue which have been underreportedIt seems reporting on nCoV is way better than ever before so it might not be so bad but its impossible to tell yet anyhow this chart is terrifying |0 Can they just do a CTscan like China did when they did not have enough tests|1 Regarding your friends it could be an age thing When you are in your early 20s or younger since you are in second year you tend to feel invincible and have other concerns For example I find graduate students tend to engage in doomer conversations with respect and understand that the bigger picture Eg worldwide quarantines tell a different storyRegarding your school schools and public or quasipublic institutions in Canada appear to be following whatever public health says This may be for at least two reasons 1 liability if they do what the government says it is unlikely they can be held liable for any claims as a result of it either action or inaction 2 economic they can keep the business running as long as possibleBtw my first reddit post was about a cook who didnt clean his hands I think yours is better|1 shit now its in my head you monster|0 Will be shocked if its not shut down by then along with domestic flights|0 Were blocking the cape bridges then|0 I have a weak GPU RX480 and do not want to consume that much electricity so for me Rosetta is the way to go|0 My mom told me shes not worried because only old people get it Shes 67|1 Americans literally never care when their country does something wrong so he probably just straight up doesnt care|0 China was also rounding potential viral carriers off of the street and straight into metal boxes in the back of pickup trucks to forcefully quarantine them They kept detailed logs of every citizen that left Wuhan hunted them down quarantined their new house and informed the entire neighborhood that that individual was in the infected area and encouraged them to socially shame them into quarantine and inform the government if they tried to break out Their personal details were leaked online as a further method of social shamingx200BEven with all these draconian measures China saw 80K cases with over 3000 deaths We still have schools in major outbreak areas in the US refusing to shut down look at New York City The US may well be fucked|0 Its a smart bussiness move people are interested because the virus is making rounds|1 Fucking hell what a key man risk to the decision making process|0 Theres a difference between planning outside extraordinary measures and calling COBRA meetingsAnd theyve done neitherI dont recall reading the WHO guidelines about reversing transmission mate only slowing transmission and containing it But it seems as a world we havent been able to do thatWell clearly you havnt been watching their conferences they consistently keep pointing to CHina and South Korea as examples Some of CHinas quarantines have been lifted WUhan is recording new cases each day in the single figures ANd it hasnt spread through the entire populationAgain you are deeply deeply misinformedIts a shame you werent qualified to be in the COBRA meetings mate Could have steered things better thereAh right how predictable unwilling to even challenge every other point Been seeing that attitude for about 2 months now lad same people who were saying itd never spread hereDoesnt matter well see soon enough this is just round the corner|1 Yeah were sending each othere memes of CNY and memes of the virus like for celebrations etcExplaination These three are names of CN historicalpresent celebrities which the characters phonetically resembles get rid of diseases and lungs are willing to clear up Were also making fun of the current Wuhan administration but I think that section is less translatable|1 If I were you I would whoop the government of the Netherlands stupid ass|0 Modern plumbing uses PTraps which prevents this issue in shared plumbing However if the p traps dry out you could have an issue|1 Yes I would like to know this as well|1 No testNo casesOnly test when you had fever lol Thats how you approach the public health crisis America|0 asking people to stop being selfcentered or to be more blunt selfish is like asking sheep to stop being wolf food|0 Clearly youd go with me too A worthy sacrifice indeed it would be for us both |1 this sub has posts all over rall every day now so thats how its going to be unless the mods decide to stop it|0 So that American labor can be freed to produce higher valueadded products like aircraft and ship engines heavy machineries advanced materials and robotics I mean thats how international trade is supposed to work|1 10 of everyone over 12 needs hospitalization If the access to hospitals disappears due to the number of cases many more of all ages will die|0 Out of all the closed coronavirus cases in the United States 6 ended in deaths You can search up the reported numbers on Worldometer|1 Yeah bro I feel you Im only 23 and I freak out at stuff too when I read about younger patients that need to get ICU care but thats probably an anomaly and doesnt happen often We just hear about it because its not common Im scared for my father because he would fall in many categories and gives him slim chances toodiabetes obese high bloodpressure But im hopeful aswell because ive read a lot about chloroquine having many positive effects|1 The virus will call out all of Trumps lies regarding this crisis|0 Thats similar to most or all other nations France for the past two weeks has only tested severe casesGenerally theres little point in testing cases that present with mild symptoms Either they have coronavirus in which case they need to self isolate at home or they have the flu in which case they need to self isolate at home By testing them all you do is drag resources away from the front line and increase the risk of the medical staff getting infected by having to test themI doubt that the numbers will be slowing in the next two months this is going to get substantially worse before it gets better for bar spending twofifths of the next 2 years plus basically until a vaccine is rolled out under total lockdown there is no other choice and even in the lockdown route it may not be enough as people ignore these measures the longer that theyre in place and savings deplete|0 Sorry maybe I am blind who is the company who manufactures these Want to take note|0 Free base or salts|1 If its the 28 Day later kind youre already dead If its The Walking Dead kind you have a chance|0 Medicaid income level should be raised to like 40k|1 Im pretty sure uAstronomicalDouche fucked himself so thats no misinformation|0 I thought the main cause of death from covid was respiratory failure Can it also cause circulatory and cardiovascular problems|0 I understand but this is Vancouver If anything we have too much water If something for some bizarre reason affects the water system here it wouldnt be hard to get good water its everywhere This happened once here before The water reservoir got filled with mud from runoff and everyone lost their shit and ran on the stores all the bottled water was gone in hours All people had to do was boil the water and it was fine People are so reactionary No one here is going to die of dehydration There are a bunch of preppers and survivalists on this sub that have been living for this day and they are all so excited to think they are finally right that they are spreading hysteriaOne guy said somebody might dump a gallon of mercury in the rivers and we would all be fuckedbecause you know everyone can easily get a gallon of mercury somewhere and obviously thats the first thing someone would think to do So much fear mongeringSorry I thought u were replying to the water comment but regardless if a crazy circumstance turned off the electrical grid we would still be fine its not that cold people are resourceful This isnt armageddon China managed to keep all services running We arent a 3rd world country Im sure we can manage|0 You do the math 20 days since the virus was CONFIRMED outside China no deaths|0 No containment is required The kits have phenol like reagents that kill all pathogens instantly Isolating the RNA with kits is extremely easy An 8 year old can do it Reach affinity column costs a couple of dollars|0 What pisses me off is when people say meh everyone overreacted with sars swine flu Ebola This is nothing new it will all blow over soon|0 Its 6 years older than USA For comparison theyre 20 years older than India They also have way less obese and people with heart issues I feel like America is at the bargaining phase right now|1 Ill trust the WHO over Reddit|1 Deal with I work from home I try not to deal with them The couple of times Ive brought up the subject response hasnt been reassuring At this rate I dont think its it the virus thats going to get us Its the sheer indifference of the people and their attendant refusal to take any measures at all Its like their plan is act as if it doesnt exist and it will go away Official numbers That you can see exploding and even doubling day by day That only affects other people A fantasy Abstraction Not realMy parents in HK has been telling me to go back to HK because while its closer to China everyone is on top of their game in terms of washing their hands disinfecting wearing masks etc when they first made that argument I laughed it off I hate my own government and I hate the Chicoms I live abroad so I dont have to deal with them But as I watch things unfold on here Im beginning to think theyre right Like hear this Hong Kong might be safer at this point The broader public response in the west is appalling I know several people going in sick despite having symptoms At this rate theyre just praying its not the coronavirus No one wearing masks No visible uptick in hand washing of disinfecting My work which offers theoretically unlimited home office option hasnt even brought it up or urged people to take it|1 21 days including holidays and sick days is awful The US has about 10 holidays they celebrate so you are actually only getting about 2 weeks of combined sick time and vacation time that isnt tied to a holiday|0 I still have friends planning vacations like everything is normal|1 And a fucking coward This is the same guy who fucked off to Hawaii for a vacation while the country was on fire earlier this year|0 Hopefully they use any money they get for education instead of more churches|1 Bruh he fucked|0 Oh they are very serious What did you expect Theyre following the government plan 3 weeks ago a guest speaker felt unwell and apparently tested positive We received an email saying that since no student is sick the college will be open and they will clean the space Im asthmatic and Ive always been OCD with my hands because I dont like germs but this is not enough I go to college feeling unsettled and worried that I will end up getting sick|0 He has my respect Hero|1 From what I saw the governor may have declared the state of emergency between finding out about the first case in the state and it being announced publicly So perhaps not quite as proactively but not waiting|0 We need to prepare for a scenario where our president who falls squarely in the atrisk demographic is infected with coronavirus|0 I got blocked from a former friends Facebook page only last night because apparently trying to tell her it wasnt just a type of flu thats been around for ages kills less people than the normal flu and even the bible talks about it honey was me being a stupid knowitall|0 Everyone is suspect now to be frank|0 Yeah because you know more than John Hopkins|1 Do people actually pay to read news articles|0 One reason is that over the last two decades China has become the primary manufacturer for the worlds masks and respiratorsThink of the extra profits|1 Wow That puts whats ahead in perspective|1 awesome If you can please keep me updated on how that goes |1 If Im not wrong it was more deadly on second wave but those infected in first wave were immune during second Situation described here is something opposite|0 Ok|1 Its because it isnt accurate You are counting total cases instead of including the recoveries The number of sick people goes down every single day There are 95000 plus TOTAL documented instances of people becoming infected Of those 38000 are still sick with a at the moment 94 rate of recovery|0 Theres a NYT article about people here doing it and the guy was like Im actually performing a public service to get this out there to people to buy Mindboggling what people will tell themselves sometimes|1 Right its crazy they closed 3 weeks of school Im just happy NM is taking this seriously For once Im happy to live in NM|1 Um good job bud|1 Bats are rats with wings carriers of disease All animals carry disease of some sort Bats just happen to have more than others A lot more but its really just relative Any animal can act as a viral reservoir And call it cultural but eating a boiled bat with fur head and all is to me absolutely disgusting and gross Its cultural|0 typical Chinese is surprised the central government didnt put more effort on it for example in Xxs speech two days ago he even didnt mentioned it which is very very unusual And no high level official made any visit to the city or stood up to take action It reflect 3 possibility 1 he is not capable 2 he is aware but dont want to own it and no one want to own it and some goatscape will be punished 3 he is far away from reality In either case there is unspoken anger in social media Hopefully people will realize the problem of this structure|0 I just came back from the grocery store and paid special attention to how very many elderly people were walking around I had to stop myself from yelling like a man woman to get inside and stop going out I saw the elderly woman who lives on the street behind me Shes a heavy smoker I am still considering leaving her a note|1 Agreed we just gotta ride this week out|1 It takes courage to admit this draw strength from that|1 For furniture wise the entire town where most of my suppliers factories are located Have been issued letter by the provincial government that they are not allowed to reopen the factories or showrooms till March And there are part of my suppliers that are still trapped in their hometown unable to go back to their town of work This is for owners of the business And their workers are also trapped stuck unable to come back I have their WeChat So I can see what they posted A lot are worried and unsure of the future of their businesses A lot started to take in orders online via WeChat since last week But ETA of delivery is not in sight We are also worried for our businesses But we do have other furniture suppliers from outside China From our side our worry is that the market and buying power of consumers If no one is buying It doesnt matter if you got stock|0 Couldnt even blame autocorrect there lol|1 Yes bc corona is more likely to be deadly in the elderly If the classmate was 17 and died of corona this would cause even more concern|0 pet peeve just feeling irritated this morning not directed at the posterappreciate any infojust at the information published what happened to brevity and focus in the english language do they get paid based on the amount of time people spend reading The clinical picture suggests a pattern of disease thats not dissimilar to what we might see in influenza Not dissimilar then how about saying similar Forgive me for the rant please just tired of seeing many words and few facts that might be helpful |0 Right One scary stat was that Mass has a higher number of positive than negative test results Theyre clearly hoarding and not getting a good cross section with their testing|0 NoThey know that most people are stupid|0 The strangest part of this is children less than 9 years old seen largely unaffected Not a single death|1 Just by googling I see its 21 Celsius69 F in Teheran right now Dont spread lies|1 The director of the CDC already confirmed this CDC director says some coronavirusrelated deaths have been found posthumouslyDuring theHouse Oversight Committee discussion on the novel coronavirus response the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said some deaths from coronavirus have been discovered posthumouslyRep Harley Rouda askedCDC director Dr Robert Redfieldif its possible that some flu patients may have been misdiagnosed and actually had coronavirusThe standard practice is the first thing you do is test for influenza so if they had influenza they would be positive Redfield saidRouda then asked Redfield if they are doing posthumous testingRedfield said there has been a surveillance system of deaths from pneumonia that the CDC hasits not in every city every state every hospitalRouda followed up and asked So we could have some people in the United States dying for what appears to be influenza when in fact it could be the coronavirusThe doctor replied that some cases have actually been diagnosed that way in the United States todayStill do the paper though Id like to see what kind of numbers you come up with We all know the CDC isnt going to give us numbers|1 Ok genius|1 Yes but still these beds are not for free like here in UK and ppl can die on the streets if they cannot pay insurances so beds are not sorting out problem|0 Everyone is Thats why we should rise up and free them and ourselves|1 The news comes and goes so fast now That chinese curse may you live in interesting timesis hereand directly from china too|0 Because the chances of young people dying from this really are just not high at all Im sorry if you dont like that|0 They dont know Its random Those who kill too fast die out because they dont get to infect more people Those who kill slower or kill fewer get to infect more people Rinse and repeat|0 Im not a prepper at all but I am stocking up on canned goods box meals beans rice pasta canned milk water although I will fill the two bathtubs I have if needed cat litter and food and getting prescriptions refilled Im a teacher and we havent been advised of anything regarding this at all except that it is flu season and to wash hands We are off this week but I am buying 3 32 oz of germ gel for my students when we go back Monday My own kids are in high school and they have said some students are wearing masks already I honestly think its already in the general population here in So Cal and if my family gets it we do I am stocking up in the event of a quarantine at home in our area We also have earthquake preparedness stuff already so a lot of supplies that we need we already have I will try and get some masks but I have heard from a few people they are sold out Stock up on toilet paper also and things like saline solution if you have contacts Canned meats are good as well|1 Question Im trying to figure out is how much to stockpile Im figuring a month a minimum Best case is I now just dont have to buy food for a month worst case is its not enough Anyone have a recommendation for the US Trying to take this seriously without the media induced panic|0 Nice Thanks for the update on that|1 I think this is a fantastic explanation|1 The government has been preparing for this for years They will activate Marshall law eliminate the poor sick and weak They have empty prisons being secured by armed security forces above and underground for the chaos that is about to unfold That is why they are just allowing people to get infected and kill themselves off That is why Trump is not trying to containing it Trump knows what he is doing letting it all play out slowly|0 Chloroquine is already an approved drug so the phases dont really matter for approval They are testing its effectiveness for off label use so they are essentially in the same position as Remdesivir|1 I dont need to engage with a ridiculous attack on incompetent communists who are clearly neither incompetent based on how China has been performing for the past 30 years as a rising power or communists its a marketbased economy with strong state oversight theyre communist in name only Youve clearly never lived in China if you think that people singing from balconies is somehow staged by the government|0 This is a good point I talk about it a bit herehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh06s2whatflatteningthecurveactuallylookslikefk7xjqdutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x The idea behind flattening the curvehttpswwwflattenthecurvecom is to spread out infections so you dont overwhelm the healthcare system this graph shows that restricting public gatherings is an effective means to do soI assume that you are talking about the cumulative death rate and not cumulative dead the latter wouldnt make sense to compare since Philly and St Louis had different populations|1 They already tried to Muzzle Fauci This is completely horrifying|0 Yes I discovered this today and I am concerned I realized he was referring to the whole country but I was trying to highlight the same point that I would expect the resources to match the populationAlso the details that not all ventilators are equal There is an online effort now to create an open source ventilator which can be easily manufactured|1 wow and the virus has only just started SF is in for a world of hurt|1 Getting treated the like the guy wearing tatters in the street with a cardboad sign that says Repent This is the end People think Im overreacting because I want them to disinfect and stay out of public when at all possible Negligent jerks are gonna kill is all|0 Which still falls under whatever reason and isnt motivated Like a disgusting little boy that gains joy from tortuing animals just out of boredom|1 My biggest thing I told everyone was this could be nothing but stock up on things you could eat for a month if you needed but could use the rest of the year Then your out nothing in the end but prepared for it|1 Only 2 type of masks prevent the spreading and one is reserved for medical workers who actually need it and it highly depend on the person to know how to use it Basically the average people is stupid and will use his unwashed hands to take off the mask by the middle to eat and then scratch their eyes|0 Yeah there were an awful lot of shills saying they werent being censored|0 Anyone remember that time the little old lady in China threw COINS into the JET ENGINE of an aircraft for good luckId rather not disparage Chinese people but remember folks some older people are coming from a much much different time Make sure you bring them up to speed|1 The kits will cost 2500 each but insurance will negotiate that rate down to 300 each but they wont be covered under your insurance until you have met your deductible and if you have ever gone to your doctor previously for a cold or flu they wont be covered at all as it will be a preexisting condition|0 people staying home for 2 weeks is not going to increase strokes heart attacks or blood clots unless they literally sit all day everyday without getting up at all|0 Medicallyspeaking obesity is definitely considered a comorbidity|1 I wish I knew Someone who knows how to build an industriallevel ventilator for contagions needs to produce some CAD designs|1 I understand now how some people can develop 0 faith in their governmentI definitely used to be more optimistic about the US government who was the world police who was the country that was able to install puppets in other countries and control the world the country that is one of if not the most technologically advanced in the world Dropped so many balls in the face of a pandemic|1 httpwjwwuhangovcnfrontwebshowDetail2020012309114 3 2001162 11635 12210200036000google translates to 3 Many hospitals report that there are no results within a few days after the specimens are submitted for inspection which affects the rapid diagnosis What is the reason How to improve the detection speed nextAnswer As the country has incorporated pneumonitis of the new type of coronavirus into a Class B infectious disease and adopted Class A management the detection of samples of this type of pathogen is managed in accordance with highly pathogenic pathogenic microorganisms Class 2 and the relevant samples are tested and transported It must meet the relevant requirements of biosafety management and pathogenrelated experimental activities should be carried out in a biosafety laboratory with the corresponding protection levelIn the early stage the sample detection process for suspected cases was as follows The firstpatient hospital passed a standardized pretest and triage combined with clinical examination laboratory inspection and chest imaging examination confirmed the suspected case after sampling by the expert group and sampled the disease The control center will transfer the samples to the citys disease control center and the citys disease control center will transfer to the provincial disease control center for nucleic acid detection More than 200 samples can be detected every day Before January 16th there is no kit in our province and it needs to be sent to the national designated testing institution for virus isolation and nucleic acid detection It is estimated that it will take about 2 days from the start of sampling to the return of results January 16th Before the samples had to be sent to the testing institution designated by the state of Beijing and the results would take about 35 days to returnIn order to meet the needs of the current prevention and control situation and increase the speed of testing upon requesting the consent of the relevant higher authorities since January 22 the city has designated various designated treatment hospitals counterpart assistance hospitals for fever fixed diagnosis and treatment hospitals and the citys disease control center Waiting for biosafety laboratories with corresponding protection levels to carry out the detection of pathogenic nucleic acids of related samples the first batch of a total of 10 institutions it is estimated that nearly 2000 samples can be detected every day when all are run To this end the city plans to urgently transport 30000 kits to the designated testing institutions and has so far issued 6000 copies|0 We can see a lot of whats happening on the Bourbon street cam nearly all of us who saw it were freaked out about the lack of distance Also we saw photos in Nashville and Bourbon street clubs People dancing 6 feet apart Seriously your post sounds like satire|0 Dont get your hopes up on a vaccine anytime soon This could last 67 more months and a resurgence could happen once quarantines are lifted|0 Nice handle|1 It is literally just selfidentification in all cases Transracial identities just prove my point it is just a concept of what we believe in nothing more I think on a societal level racial categories have done far more harm than good There are some cases where I think they are appropriate such as African American a group of people who literally had their true ancestry stripped from them by slave traders and a violent culture of oppression So yeah I 100 support that category because they literally have nothing else and it distinguishes them from other groups of Africans who have not had the same historical experience But just because it is useful and productive on a societal level does not mean it is rooted in biology for that as I said before we must turn to populations and only populations I do not believe there is any particular requirement for a society to only use biologically defined categories only that if we do go with the social constructs there is a huge potential for them to be misused and to be basically tools of ostracization|1 Asian countries China SK have proved that the best way to fight with the virus is 1 social distancing2 do enough testsYou need testing to find those who already got infected and isolate them to stop the further spreads of the virus The key is to have enough testing while make sure people dont be shocked at the testing resultthe number will be huge and make sure the public wont panic|1 Yes Once that s hits the fan what will the distraction beProbably similar to a really bad flu seasonThen after Nov 2020 all the US headlines will change and youll never hear about it again Good lord have I been through this song and dance WAY too many times|0 Hell Alabama schools are shutting down A state that is mostly rural|0 I just hate when people do this in general So gross Ive never had that much trouble turning a page that i needed to lick my finger I hate when people do that and its something youre going to read as well|0 FYI the article is dated 03FEB20 Sonoviahttpsonoviatechcomaviaforcedreroute1problemsulutionss About statement reads At the beginning of 2017 Sonovia began to form material strategic partnerships and initiatives targeted to support its scaleup efforts with a broader vision in mind to replace the majority of the currently polluting textile wetprocesses with Sonovias Novel highperformance and sustainable SonoprocessesQuoting the article An Israeli company called Sonovia is creating a washable antiviral fabric that kills bacteria and viruses upon contact emphasis addedIf and when Sonovia will have a product is unknownThe other firm mentioned Argamanhttpargamantechcomnews is in the testing phase in development and it too is far from production|1 NYC and Long Island areasSchools are slowly closing as more reports of positive are coming in Many public schools are sending out surveys in regards to online accessibility for learning NYC Schools are still open but cleaning has been ramped up and nurses are being added Also each school had to determine an isolation room for students or teachers who show symptoms while in the building until they can go homex200BBeen visiting various stores many cleaning supplies bleach CloroxLysol wipes and sprays are gone Ive seen a lot of water casespacks left in supermarkets Many pharmacies Ive visited are lacking in vitamins all forms|0 Yea she fucked her husband Dude got cheated on|0 Hey did you want to get the Profound Respiratory Failure DLC with this How about scratch protectionFuck those guys|0 Right Why cant WHO declare that going to and from China be blocked for a couple of weeks Just to get things settled and figured out Im not into economics or business or anything of that sort So I dont know what impact it would have on the world economy But just 2 weeks would it be so bad|0 Umm excuse me but are you forgetting that China bad|0 Your fear and anxiety are as real as the threat The more people who follow these simple steps the sooner our lives can get back on track Share this with everyone If we ALL follow these simple steps we will slow it downWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|0 When people they know start to die|0 All those top CDC administrators still have jobs Nobody has been replaced despite multiple levels of absolute dysfunction and failure|0 Its people like you that made everyone freak tf out over toilet paper and water|0 True but their hands are a bit tied because patients must have 5x ASTALT levels to qualify under current requirements for compassionate use of this stuff most coronavirus patients never have that This requirement was set before this virus was even out it was set at that because it was being used compassionately for other virus like Ebola and MERS They are working with the FDA to change this|1 How reliable is worldometers Ive compared their US numbers to other COVID19 trackers and theyre always higher than any of the others They also update pretty regularly at weird times like between midnight and dawn is there a lot of results reporting going on at 3 am Ive found some old chatter about them that makes me think they used to just calculate estimates But I havent been able to find much about them from more recent timesDoes anyone know how they come up with their COVID19 numbers I want them to be reliable but|1 Lolol yea the lie detector determined That was a lie|1 China is now producing more than 100m masks everyday But I think the supply of medical masks will still be stressed until the dontgooutwithoutamask policy is over|0 Dont get drawn into the cycle of looking constantly at the news Take appropriate precautions for yourself and then try to accept thats the most you can do Talk to others about how youre feeling and try to help others cope with their feelings too Dont feel like you shouldnt be afraid Fear is normal and strength comes from accepting fear and carrying on anyway These are all things that help me and stop me getting so panicky I hope they help you too|1 No someone linked a paper in Vietnamese I used Google translate He spent 10 days in Ho Chi Min If that is how you spell it It is in the comments So there could be many people who had been to China and were hanging around in that city My only point was to assume he caught it in 2 hours in an airport meaning it is Ebola contagious is to make assumptions about where or how he acquired it|0 Yes but still think the CDC has done everything possible to help spread the virus|1 suspend mortgage and rent payments subsidize affected workers for basic neccesities use quantitative easing to support these expenses anything else Im missing|0 Reminiscing about you calling me alarmist while watching live on tv the team doctor for the Jazz run out into the court to stop the game right at tip off send the teams back to the locker rooms for quarantine A Jazz player at the arena who was just talking to reporters tested positive and the results had just came back But I am alarmist nope I think Im the rational one with interpreting the situation|1 To the parents gathering in a circle while their kids playing hockey yesterday you guys are extremely inconsiderate and if one of you kids got the virus You are basically holding hands with the virus and bringing it inside your house|0 He could always become a YouTuberit is a wise and nobel thing to smash the like button|1 Wait how does stating 15 confirmed cases imply there are no other not yet diagnosed or asymptomatic casesId be more concerned about them guessing how many positive or confirmed cases there might be|1 So would CBD prevent cytokine storm If so this would help COVID19 patients|1 Why do you need to wear a mask Because the coronavirus has a long incubation period average 8 days during which it can spread to others CDC and WHO told us only the patient need mask but actually the patient is asymptomatic during the incubation period you dont know if you or anyone else has been infected Thats why in Asia everyone wears mask which can protect themselves as well as othersHeres the latest Chinese research report on the incubation periodFindings The estimated distribution of forward time fits the observations in the collected data well The estimated median of incubation period is 813 days 95 confidence interval CI 737891 the mean is 862 days 95 CI 802928 the 90th percentile is 1465 days 95 CI 14001526 and the 99th percentile is 2059 days 95 CI 1947 2162 Compared with results in other studies the incubation period estimated in this study is longerInterpretation Based on the estimated incubation distribution in this study about 10 of patients with COVID19 would not develop symptoms until 14 days after infection Further study of the incubation distribution is warranted to directly estimate the proportion with long incubation periodsmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030620032417v1httpsmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030620032417v1|1 Wow|1 The bill Trump will sign in couple of days will cover you and make sure you collect your money|1 I fucking hate when other people say this because it confirms what ive been feelingthinking since i saw the videos from wuhan|0 It was an attempt at a joke Colds are in the coronavirus family and right now we are dealing with a new kind If we had been dealing with a new kind of antibiotic resistant plague things would be worse|1 Probably so hes been sick about a week He apparently was going to play tonight as hes feeling better and then this happened|1 I mean it is less deadly than SARS Whats worrying is that it spreads faster Putting people with bad immune systems in danger which is worrying|0 This is false gathering of 5000 people are allowed if it is in an open space outside like strikes in the street Gathering of 5000 people inside or in a concert room are forbidden|0 Not true sorry that propaganda has made you think this Most Americans get to enjoy their lives I post here for fun Sorry if youre getting paid 50 cents to post here|1 Vegas is being so tightlipped Vegas tends to gloss over all bad things that can impact their travel and tourism business That place is just waiting for a virus|0 No idiot its not Its because the USA PO cannot get shit to China theres no airlines flying there the cities are locked down and anyone who would deliver stuff isnt working|0 Were in this together Fingerpointing and blaming arent helpful Then what is the fun at Reddit if we cant do finger pointing|0 Yeah its always rung true and just becomes more prevalent love it|1 Hmmm Its a crap show|0 Im sure they hugged multiple people after they recovered because they were happy|1 Shouldnt they burn dead bodies How do you guys deal with dead people in your countries I think burning the body is the best way to stop the virus spreading from dead people|1 I have no and I mean absolutely zero Covfefe19 in me None|0 Keep in mind the virus stays on a surface for up to 9 days Its messed up Flu only stays on surface 24h|0 This is the real hope|1 Thank you Dr Weiner|1 Better stack up because its gonna be so hot in the super near future Just as it happened with masks and toilet paper|1 Its not conclusive yet they still decide to release all of the dogs Great plan|1 I guess its not a hoax anymore|1 Funny they arent talking about the multiple organ damage|0 Rudy Gobert touched teammates faces and belongings before testing positive for coronavirus now another teammate has it|1 It depends on how locked down your statetown is Contact the donation center andor your states COVID19 hotlineIm in NJ nonessential retail closes at 8 PM and has occupancy limits and distancing protocols no dinein no entertainment with no further limits in my town and expect the process to be something like make appointment print form drive there show cops form if pulled over|0 Yeah He was only 42|1 its cool to pretend to not be concerned and to make fun of people taking reasonable precautions just look at the stock market today they are either secretly terrified or blissfully ignorant and I must say since prepping and learning as much as I could I am really relaxed and ready for any outcome from a short blip to near collapse|1 Ill update it to CentralEastSouthEast Asia|0 Are people stealing the gloves or disruptions to supply chain|0 Agreed I wished I was wrong Sigh|0 China has recovered because of their extreme police state response to the outbreak which even the WHO admitted no other country could replicate or attempt The US and most other first world nations are doing basically the complete polar opposite response as China is Dont conflate the twoAnyway like I said Im just pointing out that the global supply chains we all rely on are much more stressed than people realize No we wont starve but dont expect normalcy for a while|0 uuncertainpepperyAs a result of our initiative in taking on this complex issue OSHA on March 13 issued additional details making it clear that COVID19 can be a recordable illness if a worker is infected as a result of performing their workrelated duties|0 Follow your gut and cancel it We in Vienna are closing nearly everything because of 30 infected ok 90 now First no gatherings with more than 100 people Now we shut down completlyIn italy it were that many 2 weeks ago|0 I think its substantially more likely that the Wuhan corpse count is roughly correct and the infection count way off than the other way around Seems hard to misplace 2x the corpses but not finding 20x the asymptomatic infections could happenThe CDC is supposed to have a capacity of 800 testsday and frankly Id love it if someone got on a plane tonight with all of them and showed up at the Costco in Kirkland Washington tomorrow morning to swab 800 random people from that community If they get a bunch of hits on those swabs the Seattle Flu Project is gonna need a bigger donation account|1 Thank you|1 The CDC told Senate hearings theyd need about 3400mn masks if this is a pandemic They told the media they have about 33mn masksMy sad thought on hearing that is I wonder how many bullets the US govt has in reserve Sigh|0 From what Ive read the CDC solely provides virus testing The tests presuppose that a decentralized local authority submits samples to the CDC|1 Sorry if my fear of death overrides market concerns|0 Healthcare workers are at higher risk because theyre exposed to the worst cases patients with high viral loads|0 They wont help you Corona virus can live for days on hard surfaces according to the briefing at my hospitalYou will get it on your hands and unless youre super careful you will be exposedMasks will help healthcare workers because they will wash their hands every time they interact with a patientAnd btw as a healthcare worker I would ask you who you think will treat you and your family when you come to a hospital for help when youre sick and were all sick tooLeave the masks for people they will help|0 Im not sure what you mean by side effects with the test you worry about false negatives or false positives and no test is perfect in this regard to control for RNA degradation during isolation you include a reaction to test for RNA that should be in all of us in the published paper this was GAPDH an enzyme used in glycolysis that is a very commonly used control you are amplifying the RNA here that is used by ribosomes to make the protein mRNA depending on how abundant the viral RNA should be a different mRNA could be used to match expected abundance basically this is helping you test against a false negative due to a problem in the RNA isolation To secure against false positives you want to make sure what your primers are annealing to is unique to the new Corona virus there are many programs that can be used to design primers that should be uniqueadditional controls would be to amplify multiple regions of the virus and also run a gel to verify the product is the expected size Again no test is perfect depending on viral load at the time of testing you might be more likely to get a false negative say if the viral load is low either very early on in infection or very late in infection False positives can also occur because of slight variations in an individuals DNA single nucleotide polymorphisms although we dont have to limit it to that kind of mutation that is going to be the most common and what is used when we try to identify an individual by their DNA presumably any positive test would be further verified by again making sure the product is the expected size from the viral genomeamplifying other regions of the viral genomeEdit For proof of concept you would test the viral primers or even multiple different sets of viral primers against human cDNA libraries basically sets of all the mRNAs that would be normally present in a human cell and you would use the cDNA libraries of the cell types expected to be in the samples you obtain this might take up to a week initially but since primers were already described in the published paper for testing it should be unncessary and even if the primers you were using for the viral genome happened by chance to amply some human mRNAcDNA cDNA is what is made in the reverse transcroption basically a DNA copy of the mRNA the chance of it being the same size product as the viral product is highlly unlikely and there are even ways around that but it is extremely unlikely they would be necessary For instance you could use an enzyme that cuts very specific DNA sequences and know that it should cut in a very specific place of the viral product this would allow you to verify you are getting the viral product|0 100 agree but I say 2 full weeks behind Italy since we cannot test at their capacity Everyone treats me like I am crazy For some reason everyone thinks the USA is immune|1 Cured Chinese Baby Glad to be cured I missed my Marlboros|1 The irony is the more prepared you are the less panicked you are Panic happens when you dont know what to do or are overwhelmed by the sheer amount there is to do Imagine the panic is a 20lb block of butter You cant eat a 20lb block of butter in a day Its overwhelming But cut it up and spread it across as many days as possible and suddenly youre slowly but surely making that butter disappear You give some away to friends and neighbors and suddenly you have a manageable amount to use up Now imagine that everyone in the country got the same 20lb package of butter weeks after you did The strategies you used to get rid of it arent available to them since now were all in the same butterladen boat Panic about this virus is the same Watching other countries and their reactions made many of us think about what we would need if there were a quarantine situation for us What would I need to do if we needed to self quarantine for 2 weeks to a month Hmm what would happen to my neighborhoodcitystate if we all self quarantined for a month And so on from thereKnowing that I can lock my door and self quarantine is kinda like spreading out the panic over the last few weeks I hadnt reassessed certain aspects of my emergency plans in a while and a few areas were thin to nonexistent Every night I ask myself what would i wish I had gotten if theres a quarantine Tonight the only answer I have is gas so I will be filling up the tank tomorrow morning Stay informed Get ready|0 My wife is a nurse for a major health system in Colorado Just a few days ago the hospital sent out an email forbidding all staff from wearing masks except for in very very specific circumstances She also got a lot of grief about wearing a mask from her manager and coworkers Then a day or two later they sent out an email saying that all staff were required to wear masks at all times She has friends from old jobs at other hospitals that still arent allowed to wear masks The people running these hospitals dont have a clue|0 We are hopefully Italy with our half ass shutdowns|0 We lost a few Pounds|0 Germany and many others are specifically trying to stagger infection over the next two years to reduce the overload of the healthcare system so immunity wouldnt stop spread in a while|0 Taking Hong Kong as an example although there is currently an outbreak of the COVID19 and still many people waiting to see the doctor right now there is a great drop in the number of influenza casesTake week 8 data as an example2019httpswwwchpgovhkenstatisticsdata106416426821html 868 positive out of 6243 samples 2020httpswwwchpgovhkenstatisticsdata106416426885html 18 positive out of 5575As we are in the Northern hemisphere we are sharing the same strains of flu viruses Although I cannot tell whether the infectivity of the viruses for this year has changed or not with an increase in awareness of hygiene in the society should have impact on reducing the amount of infectious diseases|1 I was thinking more like a Baseball bat or something Im a Canadian not psychotic like Americans|1 the guy who didnt pay the feehttpsyoutube0oBx7Jg4mo|1 Im old and have had fevers and pneumonia Fevers are no big deal You just feel shivery hot and cold But Ive never had a very high fever Mild pneumonia isnt bad Just a lot of coughing which is very annoying Ive also had pneumonia which caused my blood oxygen to go down to 85 That made me feel very tired and short of breath But I still went about my life Didnt stay in bed I even went camping Finally I couldnt take it any more and went to ER which is where I found out about my blood oxygen being 85 I got better after a course if IV antibiotics The idea of going through the type of illness described above doesnt scare me at all It would be annoying not scary What scares me is dying I guess the idea of being on a ventilator is scary I have never been on a ventilator But i still wouldnt be as scary as dying Nope Dying is what scares me But even old people have a good chance of not dying at least if the hospitals dont get overwhelmed|1 People are screened at airports based on clinical features symptoms and epidemiologic risk travel history contacts etcAt least some if not most of the 99 here would just pass through and then develop symptoms later possibly spreading the virus inside the countryAm I missing somethingI havent been too concerned about this as in Australia the reported cases seem to be under control but this latest development has got me thinking|0 She needs to QUIT ASAP Im sorry but its extremely easy for nurses to get work Not many people are ready for this expense but money comes money goes Take it easy for a couple months then she will easily be able to get back onespecially after tons get sick and quitor worse|1 Your expert is nonexistent or a liar|0 Didnt 30k people die of pneumonia last year|1 We almost crashed in a jet in rural china and let me tell you the plane was going fucking bananas guys running up and down the aisle crowding yelling and screaming fucking horrible behavior in a bad situation Soooo must be pretty fucking miserable there now|0 Please give this grandma a goldEdit thanks for the pie|1 CDCs data is crap and you cant really draw conclusions from itWHO said 34 the last time I saw them commit to a number last week Keep in mind that is the Case Fatality Rate which is a measure of how many people die who are confirmed to be infected It is not a measure of the overall fatality rate for everyone who catches it because we dont know how many people catch it The overall fatality rate is certainly lower than 34 and could be much lower|0 He had no heart beat for 3 hours when they decided to hook him upwhat a sick joke this all is People need to stop believing chinas word on everything|0 There have to be thousands in the greater NYC area and it is guaranteed to be in all major cities in NY at this point|1 So many names for those folks Eventually itll be an honorific They will have more names then the Adeptus Custodies|1 A shame chameini didnt get it|0 Sure you didnt see a CDCQuarantineVan hotspot|1 I appreciate it Ive been following all this closely My heart sinks a bit when I see posts like these Not sure why Ive worked many holidays weekends night shift snow storms Ive taken care of folks with highly infectious diseases but this has me scared My concern is system implosion We staff so lean as it is Throw in staffing shortages due to illness abandonment high patient influx plus shortages of meds and supplies and its a grim scenario|0 Yep No masks no hand gel no Clorox products no tp rice is low water is very low Im sure if you go to the smaller stores youll find stuff but Costco and target are crazy packed and low on anything worth getting|0 You are one of the few people who get this It hasnt yet dawned on people that a large portion of the population WILL get the virus The question is over what period of time and how long will we have to endure lockdowns and economic destruction|0 I never said he was smarter than me not sure how you got that Just that hes plenty smart Im not really sure what your position here is if he said something about Jeffery Epstein then its very likely he was aware of what he was doing and did it anyways I never said he was a good person just plenty smartWhats your position here That hes stupid That he was too dumb to know Jeffery Epstein was a shady character Because my position is hes too smart to not know meaning hed have met with him despite the negatives which is not a good thing|1 One of my coworkers is touting the i want to go out while I still can line He knows its bad and expects it to get worse so hes not completely dense but doesnt understand how going out while you still can is a huge part of the problem|0 Seriously Im a transplant to utah of 20 years They take care of people help people and the church is the first out to every disaster You may not agree with the religions beliefs but they are true humanitarians|1 Its sick because Im just a layman with some basic science under my belt and an interest in following the news in China As soon as this started to spread across Wuhan I could see the shit heading towards the fan Many people here could when this sub was just 1000 subscribers Everyone was saying the same thing That action needed to be taken And what did America do America laughed about bat soup|1 Theres been some irrational response here too initially People should make an effort to keep their shit together unless they want to create new problems with their panic Alas easier said than done|0 I think youre confusing neurons nerve cells in the brain and neutrons neutrally charged subatomic particle|0 Throughout the day for sure It didnt actually keep me up at night|1 whats awesome about this scenario is that we only have to wait to see or better yet not see that orange clown anymore the best part THE BEST PART if he has it the other clowns in the car have it as well I am going to sleep amazing tonight|1 As of this morning 3500 in Lombardia alone probably around 40005000 now 1752 of which had already yielded a resultStarting tomorrow 6 more hospitals in the region will be able to conduct testing|0 I think weve known for a while that the only way to get a true sense of the scope is to do serological surveys|1 He should resign from his position if he doesnt take at least some responsibility then|0 Thanks|1 Its as if the Western Powers WANT to be brought to the it knees|1 Imagine going around with only 5 of your total energy storage and if you go above that 5 youll have to go lay down for the rest of the day to recharge Theres also muscle pain headaches dizziness nausea sensitivity to light temperatures sound smell for some people In general there could also be a sense of sickness like always having the flu in a way which will come and go constantly|0 And about 30000 33000 adult ICU beds are available they will run out quickly we need to start building temporary ICU hospitals now increase number of ventilators now and train paid medical student volunteers to take over normal hospital tasks reserving existing medical staff for ICUs paid volunteers should be recruited to provide other services to all hospital staff walking dogs taking car of car and home maintenance etc|1 Uk here Im honestly panicking about the lack of leadership and the refusal by our leaders to protect us Ive done everything I can to get ready but its not going to be enough if the entire country is melting down Our health secretary has just been on tv saying that they may consider banning mass gatherings of more than 500 people Theyre bringing in emergency powers not to close schools and nurseries but to force them to stay open Its insane and frightening I honestly wish I was in almost any other country at all right now|0 This will be the biggest problem in my opinion I have already talked to family members and told them to try and get 90 day supplies NOW If you have meds that you cannot go without it could be real bad|0 Yeah Im the only one in my family who actually cares or is really informed about this whole situation|1 im all good dont worry i have hand moisturiser yesterday my hands were bad but all the open wounds are closing up now im not even really overwashing my hands just whenever i use the bathroom and whenever i eat my hands are just pretty sensitive|1 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 My parents are both over 70 My dad is recovering from cancer right now not going through chemo at least My mom basically scoffed at my suggestion that she not go to church every single day On Long Island Where theres cases Said its fine she keeps up with the news 99 Fox News aka the jackasses perpetuating that its fine My helpless dad is at her whims Im worried Im not going to have parents by the end of the year|0 Fuck man this only going to get worse over the next few weeks isnt it|0 i was like aw its ok until i saw its log scale |1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Same Were due in 3 weeks I am wondering if we should do a home birth instead I dont know if were mentally prepared for that Im so stressed out|0 Gen X at 53 worried just a little that my prediabetes puts me in a bad place with this virus Washing my hands working from home hope my little family here can ride it out|0 Yeah thats my fault sorry lolIm used to being in Illinois where backyards exist haha|1 Someone who could bring balance to the force which is overwhelmingly negative and yin right now|0 I think he was throwing an airball There arent any established or proven measures to improve outcomes Trials are starting up In 36 months well know more|1 Went to the Walmart in Thornhill at 830PM They were sold out of toilet paper tissue boxes AND paper towel Not to mention there were so many people buying out a lot of shelves of nonperishables the pasta was all gone as well and the line ups were incredibly long|1 This plan to quarantine everyone is going to put the global economy at riskPeople need to eat and most with covid will be fine Thats the realityThe ones at greatest risk need to be quarantined|1 Sorry China is not my boss|0 It needed to have an uptake before this crisis The only people on the app are the ones that signed up and downloaded it For example my specific neighbourhood has about 1000 people of the 2500 homes on it but it took 67 months to get there So sadly I dont think it would be a good tool for you at this point|0 Talk is cheap Let the ignorant talk and talk some more Lets see how things turn out by next week Some countries will slowly get back to normal Some countries will enact martial law and then learn the hard way that yeah talk is cheap|0 Same thing happened to my trip to Phoenix Got half refund Airlines and car rental companies gave full refund or year of credit to use But not fucking airbnb They not have balls to reply when you msg them|1 Go on take a guessHint We also have to pay thousands for a quick ride to the hospital|0 When I was shopping at the weekend I noticed it was the hand sanitizer and bleach shelves that were wiped out Food was ok at that point but I think it will be a different story in the next few days|1 This needs to happen countrywide Better bankrupt than dead|0 The idea was to increase user interactionpage viewspump stats|1 Social distancing LOL easy Dog Distancing MUST RESIST THE PETZrPetTheDamnDog|1 Its not some crazy crackpot theory Its based on things we already know about these kinds of drugs Personally Id go a step further and not take anything that reduces fever because fevers are an important immune response Id rather deal with feeling a bit shittier than risk making myself more vulnerable|0 To be honest I wouldnt have minded if Hillary was president But I just liked Trumps attitude his no BS approach and the left started their hissy fit and the protests etc It was annoying and pushed me even more to the Right But After whats going on now and his distancing himself from China and Russia and boasting over South Korea etc it just started going to shit|0 Aka Costco needs to shut this down by limiting the per customer quantities like other retailers are doing to stop shit like this Not all the Costcos are limiting quantities as in the article but some are Some stores have hired security as morons are actually getting into brawls over toilet paper httpsadagecomarticlecmostrategytargetcvscostcolimitsaleskeyitemsavoidcoronavirusstockpiling2243766httpswwwwiredcomstoryamazonpulledover1millionitemscoronavirusampAmazon Pulled Over 1 Million Items Capitalizing on Coronavirus|0 12 hours based off of research papers that Ive seen 4 hours by most hospital policies or whenever staff take it off it should be discarded and a new one applied The healthcare disposable blue mask with 2 rubber bands works mostly by electrostatic properties attracting airborne particles and humidity on the microchemical level negates it The mask also literally gets clogged with those particles over time like a house HVAC filter over timeYou can get partial mask and full mask with changeable cartridges at local home improvement stores Theyve got N100 filters in 3 filterable categories small particulate eg metal virusesdust oil based stuff like paint thinners and water based stuff like heavy water radioactive particles They also make combo ones airoilparticle eg These industrial OSHA cartridges are good for 30 days or until the user cannot breathe effectively|1 Egypt here Surprisingly We have like 50 cases only in 100mil but everyone is freaking out and buying tissues and Sanitizers and the thing you put around your nosemouth even the ministry of health is freaking out But we are holding on lol god help us all|1 Does it really matter if you are tested at this point Everyone is going to get this and most people are going to be fine You should be isolating anyway so I dont understand why people think they know better than their doctor on this one|1 I said Italy is only exception US is getting by because its likely running rampant here and there is simply no news It wont be visible yet to most until enough people have personal acquaintances with suspicious symptoms being hospitalized for severe pneumonia and lots of people dying They cant even ascribe deaths to COVID right now No better than Iran anyway|0 Ope youre right So sorry that I made ONE mistake in a comment Im so tired of the douchebaggery coming from people like you Fuck off with that shit|0 Id love to see ANY kind of estimations like this from the US I have no idea how prepared to be or how underprepared my country is|1 Luckily we have these past situations to teach what not to do when dealing with global pandemic|1 Only if you care about human lives obviously the pence task force is not deterred by small things like that|1 People were looking at me like I was crazy following this since January and starting to prep and watch the numbers Some people are still mocking it here and shaming people for showing any sign of fear but we start testing this week in Southern US We had a terrible flu season and our allergies are bad af and Im wondering just how many cases are going to pop up in the metro area etc most states around us have it confirmed and i know we will too its nervewracking and just as anxiety inducing as I thought it might be two weeks ago|0 Thats just wild Wales Comic Con got cancelled and most comments on the announcement post on Facebook were supportive of the decision|1 Perfect Old people love tonic water|1 OH the irony is rich|1 There was a post which compiled all of the R0 estimates from major studies Out of 11 studies 9 gave it an R0 BELOW 3 1 gave a 38 which turned out to be later revised down to 26 Another gave one of 4467 however that study used a highly controversial way to determine R0 and is a major outlier So no the low ball estimate is not 3 That seems to be the highball estimate 25 seems to be around what we are seeing with this virus Thats bad its not good But its very typical with these types of virus outbreaks for people to be giving extraordinarily high R0 rates in the media simply because it scares people while ignoring the other R0 rates given by studies that are more realistic And the flus R0 doesnt stay at 13 It rises dramatically during the flu season then drops below 1 during the rest of the year as the flu declines On average throughout the year its 13 but it ranges from 25 for a mild flu season to 5 for a bad flu season during peak flu months|0 Shop at your local grocery stores supermarkets instead of big named ones like Publix and Kroger literally drove to a small town near Rome GA and it took a while getting there but they had so much more in stock and no one was panic buying so I was able to get everything I needed Including toilet paper |0 Also all of the schools and many public places in Taiwan test peoples temperature and sanitize their hands before entering a campus or buillding I heard that 90 of Taiwanese wear a mask in public transportations like bus subway Thats maybe helpful|1 Bullshit millions of Americans spend their money with very little forethought especially if they make less than 250k There are millions of Americans who make less than that who save You can check out lean fire for proof and possibility|0 From the article Murray and DeLauro previously introduced legislation that would require businesses with at least 15 workers to grant seven days of paid sick leave annually to allow workers to stay home sick seek medical care or take care of a sick family member Their latest bill would go further in ensuring additional paid sick days in a public health emergency Theyve previously tried to pass this legislation before COVID19 came around|0 2009 survey puts us at about 42000 fully featured ventilators about half of which can take care of pediatricneonatal patients who have been shown to have less severe disease Factor in older models that can do less advanced ventilation modes and you get another almost 100k Still 140k for a whole nation sick still makes me nervous|0 No but if you guys are worried and are well financially then he could consider quitting his job and find a new one when all this has already happened hopefully soon Lets be honest many companies out there wouldnt care if one of his employees dies tomorrow|1 Probably yes Decision will be given tomorrow only|1 Day 52 A notification from the hospital informs me that I was infected with the Wuhan coronavirus I suppose I should be pleased that I cant catch it again Im immune now Uhmmmno|1 I sympathise with them But when people start refusing to go to work we are fucked Teachers first What if retail workers doctors nurses police etc start doing the same|0 I think youre more likely to get a good discussion about this over at rCOVID19 or maybe rscience|1 Theres reports of people testing positive again for the virus after being ill getting better and then testing negative Hopefully those tests were false negatives|1 Well that would be great if they think we could get it down to where we dont have spike after spike|1 I hope somebody uses a floor plan of said ship and studies whether there is any pattern to cabins with people who got the virus and who did not|1 Dont forget how China rewrote history to say SARS originated from HK The CCP is a one trick pony yet people are blissfully ignorant about it until theyre buried 8 feet underground|0 My feeling is that the German medical system is in general very sensitive as we tend see a doctor basically for everything also we have compared to Italy in general more doctors and beds etc per head available I have been pushing on the radio and through letters and LinkedIn articles the use of HCQ as a potentially life protecting drug and it is now popping up that this drug and a few antivirals are being used in ICUs in Germany Some say that Germany is lucky by just being behind the time curve but that is hard to accept being such an export and vacation nation with trillions of people moving around|1 Im so sorry Anyone with immune issues has reason to be concerned|1 There are some very good websites that report accurate information The WHO has up to date information and even has a section where they dispel myths link below Also your country stateprovince or even municipal public health website is probably reliable and helpful I think finding a news outlet that reports fairly on this subject is also important Nothing sensationalist rather factual updates WHO Link httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustershttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustersIsaac Bogoch MD|1 Yeah Id like to know what evidence the experts are citing in the OP article in recommending healthcare staff dont take aerosol precautions It would have to be watertight conclusive no|1 Yeah No The first thing people do when theyre afraid even if they claim they arent is give up their freedom Especially for the promise of safety No thanksCant happen here Where have I heard that before|1 My sister wants so badly to fly out for a tropical vacation this week I tried to tell her how foolish that would be She gets that she could spread the virus to other people For some reason she does not get the concept of incubation period I asked her how she would feel if she landed in her tropical paradise and immediately started feeling sick And not light sniffles sick but kill me now sick And not being able to fly back home right away because she is symptomatic and they wont let her board the plane She didnt have an answer besides BUT I REALLY WANT TO GOKnowing her she is probably going to go ahead and book the flight because shes 50 and you cant tell a 50yearold anything|0 Im actually shocked|0 The Irish will never stop|1 I live in FL and most of the cases are travel related with a couple being unknown transmission So maybe theres hope|1 What do we need governments for if everyone is socially responsible|1 Because kids are extremely resistant to effects of the virus but they can be super spreaders you should be very careful not to contract the virus from your kids Keep your kids at home as much as possible and away from groups of other kids Do your best to make sure they are washing their hands and not touching their faces when they are not at home If your kids contract the virus and it spreads to you the real danger is for the residents of your longterm care home Without symptoms you will not have any indication that your kids have contracted the virus|1 The best numbers Ive seen say 9598 of the cases dont even require hospitalization But yeah the already ill are very much at risk|1 Better vision than someone whos dead|0 I dont enjoy the idea of punishing regular people for simply wanting to live their lives normally its a tough situation though dealing with an invisible danger like this its easy to brush it off especially if you are a person who is seemingly not effected One could consider a negligence to obey a doctor or CDCs orders of quarantine with a potentially deadly and highly contagious virus a form of manslaughter if the spread is traced back to this woman and thats not a light sentence to bear whether she got a sentence or not There is a high volume of people at least in America who wont take this disease seriously until the window of opportunity has long passed The worst part is that our government is supporting this mindset so I doubt measures like these would be taken The disease is probably already spreading unchecked considering Americas gross lack of preparedness our hospitals can hardly handle the volume of regular influenza patients as it is So we can just as well throw the whole idea out the window anyway Hope its not a shitstorm|0 Its already in almost every European country Europe will be slow to act and will suffer for it|0 It is spontaneous civil actionYou dont have a single fact to back that up If you had ever lived there you would know that very little spontaneous civil action happens in China and when it does its usually in the form of protests or attacks against the incompetent communists in charge|0 Meanwhile here in the UK they arent even going to bother testing most people They are going for herd immunity apparently Many will die because of the measures not being taken We will be like Italy soon|0 Nelson laugh at their graveOr Scooby laugh that works too|1 Ive stopped talking to people about it their responses just add to my anxiety and I cant manage that for my own health My in laws laughed at the suggestion they prep yesterday so I just give up Focus on my immediate family at this point Sad but I cant worry about everyone anymore|1 It was 3000 infected healthcare workers infected in China as of a week ago|0 The search space is enormous A supercomputer might do it But supercomputer time is scarce theres not enough of them and there are other scientific projects that want to use it tooQuantum computers will be much better at protein folding and at other steps of drug research such as simulating chemical reactions However they still operate at too few qubits at a time the state of art can only solve small problems that can also be solved by regular computershttpsmediumcomneodotlifequantumcomputingforproteinfoldingcustombiology4ceeebb94a5bhttpblogsnaturecomnews201208dwavequantumcomputersolvesproteinfoldingproblemhtmlhttpsbioinformaticsstackexchangecomquestions558proteinfoldingproblemmodelforquantumcomputersSo thats a reason to invest in quantum computing|1 A test is something beautiful tremendous|1 I feel so bad for the husband Must be horrible to find out and then have to spend weeks with this person who hurt you so fundamentally|0 Too bad theres no way to reliably determine who has been following social isolation and who hasnt It would be nice if we could prioritize medical treatment for people who have complied with these policies and leave the rest out to dry|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ironic|0 Hey man dont disrupt the fearmongering with trivialities like historical fact|1 Im sure the CPP could hire more mods|1 Blessed post|1 The problem is the need for mechanical ventilation|0 Scrolling on FB one day I saw an image of a Nintendo DS game called My Stop Smoking Coach with Alan Carrs EasyWay Had a laugh thinking it was fake but a surprising amount of people had commented saying how effective it actually was Hrmm One person even posted a Reddit link httpswwwredditcomrlastsmokecomments7iu9aqgroupreadingallencarrseasywaytostop which was full of people saying the same thing and has a downloadable pdf copy of his book freely availableI downloaded it and forgot about it for months cause tbh I really enjoyed smoking and had been for 20 years Was going to bars a lot partying etc One random day I got tired of the financial impact dug up the link and started reading mostly expecting a bunch of bs Author encourages you to still smoke while reading his stop smoking book Ok Im down Its a short book finished it that evening literally havent had any nicotine for 8 months now No patches no vape no gum and yet no headaches no triggers very few cravings 0 these days It still amazes me a bitCarr isnt a doctor or a therapist he was just a heavy chainsmoker who got tired of not being able to quit via typical methods Doesnt pull punches and is not a fan of gradual reduction or nicotine supplements Just tries to show how thinking about things differently is really all it takes to give yourself the willpower Hes excellent at making you realize that it is just an addiction and the cigarette youre about to have isnt the reward that we like to think of it as Its a cold turkey method but the approach is so comforting and practical that I call it the warm turkey method Even if this isnt for you I really hope OP and everyone out there trying to quit can do so Be proud of yourselves for improving yourselves Coronavirus impact is a pretty great reason to cut back but even if you are unaffected you will never regret stopping Good luck and stay strong Also 1st comment Hi Reddit|1 The alcohol damages the electrostatic coatings See the NIH paper in this thread that I posted|0 cry more|0 This made my hands and feet start sweating fuck|0 Google N95 see the plastic square on many of the pictures Thats a valve It prevents humidity moisture and even moister buildup And yes Healthcare professionals wearing masks to prevent disease is absolutely proof that what you have said here is very misinformed Masks have a suggested time limit when used to prevent infectionYou know what is even more warm and more moist than a mask Your nose mouth sinuses throat or lungs which is where those viruses will enter if you arent wearing a maskWhat you have said here is as inane as someone saying Worried about a car wreck You do realize that having an airbag means that an explosion is going off and sending a pressurized bag flying right at your face dont youYou truly have played yourself sir|0 Alan Jacksons Where were you when they fought that virus corona|0 Which is so so sad|0 This is not a source This is as worthless as the original articleThe education system is a joke|1 That shit works on a complacent and moderately comfortable population when shit hits the fan people start paying attention and especially laying blame At least I fucking hope so|0 Its pretty annoying that all the work most people are doing is cancelled out by the people that arent doing anything If half the country does social distancing for a whole month but the other half doesnt it is not nearly as effective This is going to drag on a lot longer than people realize|0 Wait Is this a big deal or are people making a joke related to a video game|1 EDIT People over 60 80 reported to have like a 14 mortality rateCorrecting this post|1 People in the photos are faces of murderers|0 Hope it is just seasonal flu|1 Right behind you in Oklahoma man We had a positive case reported at OSU then radio silence Masks came out the minute the news broke for a lot of us at work But I have been off my game recently so who knows if the incubation period has already begun Ehhhhh|1 We never got monkeys ferrets or mice to actually die with SARS or MERS either or a lot of diseases for that matters Certain diseases are simply speciesspecific However its better than nothing and comparative pathology has advanced a lot in helping us extrapolate data and infer conclusions Plus for being only a couple of weeks into a pandemic a mouse model that closely parallels lung pathology in humans is an excellent result Hopefully we can get even more fidelity with monkeys This is how ALL of medical research is done not just emerging infectious disease everything ranging from cancer to antidepressants is first tested in animals that usually do not represent at all what happens in humans Trust scientists they know what theyre doing|1 Dr Salath I really enjoyed your lecture and your update on COVID on YouTube will you be providing updates on regular intervals on the scientific discoveries in the coming weeks|1 Yeah and they sell antibiotics over the counter without a prescription Breeding ground indeedEdit With to without|1 Now this is the best title ive ever seen|1 Rats applaud this move|1 This is unsourced unfounded speculation Fortunately theres a source demonstrating just how incorrect it isLt Gov Josh GreenOur DOH did a good job over there they went to the rental car company they went to the hotel that they stayed at they communicated with everybody that they could possibly find that they had spent any meaningful time with he saidThe couple took a Hawaiian Airlines flight to Honolulu on February 3rdThe company says its cooperating with public health agencies to support notification of passengersOn Oahu they stayed at the Grand Waikikian by Hilton Grand VacationsThats when the man began experiencing symptoms but did not have a fever They were on Oahu from the 3rd to the 7thSo our DOH went and spent extensive time with that hotel also with the gentleman they did spend time with and the person is in two weeks of home isolation nowThe couple took Delta flight 611 back to NagoyaIn a statement the company says we are proactively reaching out to customers who were on board that flight as well as taking the necessary steps to ensure the safety of our customers and crewhttpswwwkhon2comlocalnewshawaiitouristfromjapantestedpositiveforcoronavirusisnowincriticalconditionBefore you say Woopie Doo the Lt Governor is on it hes also a practicing medical doctor|1 Is ve a commonly used shorthand for positive Or did I miss something Stand for positive viral something|1 nice troll but FYI pool water is fill with chlorine not choloroquine proven drug for anti plasmodium malaria never skipped school bruh|1 Yeah because of theres one thing Americans are known for its putting community health outcomes over their own personal interest|1 Wow Its business as usual back in the mainland I assume because HI has a very large Asian population Hope you got your supplies|1 Thank you for helping reinforce rational thought|1 please dont travel|1 Smart|1 It is pretty black and white tbh|1 Hard disagree The CDC played a major role in fighting the Ebola epidemichttpsenwikipediaorgwikiWestAfricanEbolavirusepidemictimeline in 20132014 and they were pretty aggressive during the H1N1 epidemic in testing for the virus coordinating with states and developing a vaccine sourcehttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources2009pandemictimelinehtml This level of incompetence is unprecedented in modern CDC history|0 The increase is about 33 per day if not serious measures are undertaken You can do the math for yourself|1 plot twist 5G the worse biohazard s|0 Theyre still at the top of the list even without that USA should be much higher since it has a much higher population|1 No|0 Data shows otherwise You remove insurance and all the administrative bullshit thats not being paid for In other countries and then the cost goes way down just from that The US govt already pays more in healthcare per capital than all these other countries that use single payer systems do|0 my guess is they had more cases they only had two dead so far|0 On the hoof Id 100 agree with youBut lets look at the facts COVID19 is extremely communicable Trump has had close contact with several confirmedsuspected COVID19 carriers Trump is 73 years old appears to be in poor physical shape and is rumored to abuse amphetamines such as Adderall Trump does not sleep which is a major factor in a compromised immune systemGiven all of these conditions it is EXTREMELY likely that he has contracted this Coronavirus And because of the bullet points listed above it is EXTREMELY likely that COVID19 will hit him like a truckI dont see how hell be able to hide his symptoms|1 Amazing how many people have posted that they have their guns ready for when their neighbors try to come and steal their supplies I swear theyre in some fantasyland where they imagine being the hero and hope to actually have a chance to use their guns Never mind the fact that we would be in a state of societal collapse if it got to that point and its likely they wouldnt survive long either even with their guns|1 They saved many lives while our governments stuck their heads in the sand instead of starting to make tests for our people We had 25 months of warning|0 Yeah I had swine flu wiped me out for 2 weeks lost 10kg and took about 6 months to fully recoverOnly time in my life I had been that sick thankfully I was young and healthy but I quickly realised a virus like that could wipe out the frail|1 Yeah it doesnt hurt to spend a few extra dollars just in case People keep talking shit but I spent like 50 extra dollars on stuff Ill eat whether something happens or not Thats not exactly panic Id just rather be overly prepared than screwed|1 Dont forget to add for contagion II no test kits available|0 Thats what governments do Sometimes they get lucky and save face but the more parts a machine has the more likely it is to fail at some point We are seeing the effects of being forced to support and grow this machine We put them in charge of healthcare and now healthcare is more expensive because it has more humans in the mix We put them in charge of local responses and all security after 911 and well now local state response teams have had to scramble to build something miraculous in a way that some were able to so quickly And even local governments are failing us Stop trusting those fools who want salaries and power be a leader in your own community Set an example Help where you can Do your part even if that part is just making a call to your single relatives and making sure they have what they need now before they cant travel|1 This is pretty good But why do think shutting Canadas borders is impossible Theres also a lot that could be done between completely open borders and completely closed borders|1 What are the odds exactly zero people in that crowd are infected It has to be way under 1 right|0 Happy cake day|1 I went to one game and had no idea what was going on with all the chants My ex is planning on taking my son and I am not excited about that at all|0 They probably just burned masses of dead bodies to lessen the work Someone can correct me if Im wrong|0 In addition to what was already replied it looks like they are saying 14 days to cover 2 weeks Not 14 working days So 10 days for 8day workers at 66 of their pay rate reimbursable to the employer I was concerned that this was going to strain my companys budget after a slow winter but I think our my company can manage what theyre proposing|1 Singapore was a benevolent dictatorshipNo it was never a benevolent dictatorship people with no education in political theories need to stop saying factually untrue things like this This gets really stupid every time I read something like this|1 No Thats not going to happen|0 People think the government strategy is for everyone to get it as quickly as possible to get over it get immune and get back to normal Some other people somewhere will die so what Ill just got get it and do my bit for herd immunity Is the impression Im getting from people Its a nightmare This thing is spreading and spreading the way the government has reacted is actually speeding up the rate of infection People are running out to shops to panic buy because they dont know when they will have to stay inside and theres been no information about when that might be and how people will still manage to get their supplies Them being out in shops is spreading the virus moreThe way this is going the NHS is going to collapse in a few weeks just from the people who are being infected right now No idea why the government isnt doing anything to slow infection rate right now buy us time to get more research expansion of medical facilities a vaccine etc Its just mass confusion out there People want to work from home and self isolate but they feel they cant because their employers arent allowing it until the government okays it Its madness|0 With a global pandemic Medicare for all has NEVER looked better|0 Nah completely different med For malaia its ok|1 Most of these are nonissues when you have a wellfunded government with a culture of civic pride This isnt so much the problems with government generally as it is with current US government culture ie twoparty seesaw|0 Why are you complaing about people who say that panic is worse than the pandemic now For several weeks in the beginning stages of the spread that was the exact attitude of this sub where we who spoke up were attacked and silenced If you were one of us I sympathize If you were among the ones supporting censorship you are more liable than the people who are ignorant|0 They must be running an experiment Wonder which one is the control group haha|1 1 Do you know how Wuhan is resupplied with food and medicine I would imagine the PAP and PLA organize convoys of supplies but how do you actually supply a city of 11 million where everyone has been encouragedordered to stay indoors2 Do you think Beijing should have announced the quarantine 8 hours in advance Seems like they were asking for 300k people to leave carrying the disease with them to me3 Hows your day going Whats the weather like What have you been doing to keep yourself busy and entertained|1 I think Livonia or Auburn Hills My boyfriends cousin works doing retail fraud detection for Costco and saw it Ive also been hearing of people just snagging stuff out of other peoples carts when a person turns around for one second Madness out there|0 For a subreddit full of people worried about the impact of the covid situation myself included I cant believe the number of people in this thread that think that refilling reusable washable cups is a bad practice considering our current climate crisis|0 I agree Laws are written for and by man If something was really key in a life or death situation wed do it Whatever legal justification can be written post hoc|0 My friends in Wuhan stay at home for around 2 months|1 Now the whole world is going to suffer from a pandemic Lol Well that is a stretch You paranoid people should get some mental health help before you tear all of your hair away|1 Trump supporters are taking cues from their leader but it only takes so long until reality hits them in the face|1 Im suprised nobady was worry when you have had primary election just other day|0 I dont know if swearing and ordering people to stay home is going to have any real effect when most people go to work sick because they feel like they have no choice Perhaps you should be yelling at the government and their employers instead LetThemStayTheFuckHome|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 1 You may have normalcy biashttpswwwgooglecomsearchqnormalcybiasoqnormalcaqschrome069i59j69i57j0l21706j0j4clientmsandroidmotorolarev2sourceidchromemobileieUTF82 Has the United States taken the same precautions as South Korea and China|1 Fine but where are the temperature screens here in the US Plenty of travelers from Europe have repeatedly said they walked through customs without anyone checking anything|1 Why the hell didnt they think of this beforehand and make plans to spread the lines out|0 Thanks for posting IMA crosspost this on rCoronavirusSupport where I am trying to consolidate all the uplifting news about the virus|1 Never stopped anyone before|1 This is higher than the Spanish flu |0 Americans will probably try to shoot the disease|0 Was one of the results Reply Hazy Try Again If so I think I know what the problem is|0 Gotcha I misunderstood your previous comment|0 Yes In fact the immune response may be worse than simply a nonresponse A better understanding can be found herehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed28479213But original antigenic sin implies that when the epitope varies slightly then the immune system relies on the memory of the earlier infection rather than mount another primary or secondary response to the new epitope which would allow faster and stronger responses The result is that the immunological response may be inadequate against the new strain because the immune system does not adapt and instead relies on its memory to mount a response In the case of vaccines if we only immunize to a single strain or epitope and if that strainepitope changes over time then the immune system is unable to mount an accurate secondary response In addition depending on the first viral exposure the secondary immune response can result in antibodydependent enhancement of the disease or at the opposite it could induce anergy Both of them triggering loss of pathogen control and inducing aberrant clinical consequences|1 To add in also there are many things you cant do without the government putting things in place to facilitate those who want to and need to isolate way before the government give the ok to a standard healthy person some examples They have released no information on what anyone should do in this vulnerable category only address the public without any vulnerability even to the point they have said they others may loose the vulnerable person while the cancer patient is listening and the government has done nothing to even guide these people apart from say you will probably die but only spoken to as a third person as if vulnerable people have no brains complete abandonmentThe hypothetical mother that realises the government has done nothing for here has cancer and she wants to take her children out of school to ensure she doesnt come into contact with the virus as is the most sensible things to do then realises the government has also dont nothing to change the rules and she will be prosecuted for taking her kids out of school What is in place for people that are high risk that need carers and still need to be isolated The answer is nothing if you werent aware Or that used to shop themselves how to get medication delivered they wont do it for all people only if you fit into a certain category and this doesnt fit the tick box so they cant get vital medication So yes for the masses they have made a decision but for anyone elderly vulnerable immunocompromised children children with vulnerable people at home husbands with cancer patients as wifes etc etc etc they have done bugger all they have just omitted a massive chunk of society out of their plan and this is why they have shown they arent doing right by our society|0 Its been establisjed that only confirmed cases are counted as people who died from coronavirusTheres no way they can tell when someone whos been confirmed as having the virus is going to die ie deaths are not some number they got from an algorithm unless you believe everyone who got confirmed as having it are hoaxes in which case they can decide to say x person who doesnt really exist died today in order for the deaths to confirm to the algorithm|0 Are you fucking inbred Literally google the name of the doctor and youll find his age as the first result Hes 62 if you think thats young youre an idiot If you think China needs a tencent employee to state easily obtainable facts then youre also an idiot|0 He seems to be conflating health with healthcare The US is relatively unhealthy country compared to others in the OECD but its healthcare system is one of the best|1 Wait Im low income and I work at a bar wtf am I supposed to do if they close us down|0 Keep in mind calculating a fatality rate during a geometric growth is deceiving as deaths will trail infections by 510 days Keep in mind a week ago the reported number of infections was less than 1000 This virus is also much more transmissible than SARS or MERS|0 The problem isThe system is broken from the top|0 I dont think things would be better if society collapsed and we got to start over with a clean slate Things would just be immeasurably worse for a while then gradually and not smoothly get better until we roughly achieved parity with the modern state of things Thats assuming we ever managed to achieve that at all which I doubtThe industrial revolution and the intervening years have really plucked all of the lowhanging fruit in terms of energy production and if we squander this current level of technological advancement we will never reach it again We will be grubbing in the muck for however long our species endures before turning into something or several somethings that can better cope with shitty nutrition and an awful climate|1 Bruh its always been this way Read any history book and one of the most consistent things that you will see over and over again is the general mass of humanity being dumb as fuck|0 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed16234745There is many many laws about spreading germs Rudy was already sick and being tested That means to me legally he knowingly even if its a joke spread germs|0 If trump has it then so does pence lol|1 What a bootlickerYour company is evil garbage for not having paid sick leave in the first place|0 Seems to me the epidemiologists are pointing to models that are pretty dire void of significant containment measures and so one could argue the rosy outlooks are less likely to be true right now given current available information|1 A functional government would be proactive enough to set up childcare for all emergency workers This will happen in the coming weeks|1 I think this below was that most concerning section from the article In the Lombardy region despite extraordinary efforts to restrict the movement of people at the expense of the Italian economy we are dealing with an even greater fearthat the number of patients who present to the emergency room will become much greater than the system can cope with The number of intensive care beds necessary to give the maximum number of patients the chance to be treated will reach several thousand but the exact number is still a matter of discussion among experts Healthcare professionals have been working day and night since Feb 20 and in doing so around 20 n350 of them have become infected and some have died Lombardy is responding to the lack of beds for patients with COVID19 by sending patients who need intensive care but are not infected with COVID19 to hospitals outside of the region to contain the virusx200BI think this is the real reason why its important for people to isolate themselves right now and take precautions to prevent unnecessary exposure to infection and transmission Overwhelming our healthcare systems could make this pandemic far worse than it already is|0 Wedding is set for April 5th Calling venue tomorrow to see if there are any other datesthis is really annoying But on the bright side it will make for a fun story in 10 yearsOur wedding was canceled due to a global pandemic|1 I think that the biggest casualty of COVID19 is going to be right wing authoritarianismAuthoritarian governments like China Iran and the USA tend to see every issue EVERY ISSUE in terms of the threat to their power rather than a threat to their peopleSo their goto response is secrecy gagging of experts and happy talk while by habit stoking fears of the otherThis time its going to see people lose family members and friends Not even the most sophisticated propaganda is going to get them out of the hole they are digging for themselves|0 From a good safe distance|1 How do you know its n1h2 Just curious|1 Lets send everyone who wants to party to a remote island We will promise them Immersive music festival White sand beaches State of the art cabinstents VIP experienceThen just leave them there and pick them back up when this is all over It will be like the Fyre festival|1 Wouldnt the infected person being on a ventilator mean they were infected st least three weeks ago|1 She had severe pneumonia because the hospitals keep dismmissing her symptoms and she wasnt treated properly Only after she say her friends went to italy before she got sick they tested her as she hasnt leaved the country they didnt suspected nothing|0 Does a positive test result equal an infection|1 Its because Trump held an emergency address from the oval office last night about it|0 The Daily Mail is crap isnt it Were still testing all the same people we were plus people needing hospitalisationhttpswwwgovukgovernmentpublicationswuhannovelcoronavirusinitialinvestigationofpossiblecasesinvestigationandinitialclinicalmanagementofpossiblecasesofwuhannovelcoronaviruswncovinfection|0 Dewine and the doctors actions may save Ohio from the coming storm thats going to hit states that are doing nothing|1 Yes Absolutely right Great advise|1 Because he behaves like a boy lost in the woods at night|1 Its ok its philly im cool if they die s|0 How many years ago is this though The thing about China is you always have to remember they live in a compressed timeline everything moves in such a ridiculous rate 30 years age they were a literal backwater country so its always so difficult to gauge where they are at the momentFor example the smog issue got so bad in Beijing they forcibly moved all the factories away Today 90 of the worlds electric buses operates in ChinaI cant really comment on their health system since I never had to use it myself but every time I go there it is a bit nuts how things changePS I do lol that your gauge of progress is how westernized a place is though I mean Japanese cities are quite sophisticated and hygienic but I wouldnt say particularly western|1 She shows how easy it is to forget and fall back into habit|1 Surprise Ive been self quarantining most of life|1 wow imagine if companies did this all the time and not just because theres currently fear of a global pandemic capitalism could never|1 I was wondering if that ended up in the bill too If this is the case then most Americans can assume they wont be eligible for any of this relief under this bill|1 Viruses are known to mutate No tin foil hat required|0 like Phuketmillions of Chinese tourists only59 cases 30 recoveredLooks like the climate is a problem for the virus|1 I have enough food for a couple of months and a nice bug out location where there are plenty of deer and turkey so Im not too worried My biggest worry would be actually getting to the bug out|1 Yeah yeah the US is our ally lmao|1 Yeah what you said I only said it would be ironic never stated I wished it upon him|1 I think this is a dry cough though Not sure if there is much outliers there My cough had mucus the first morning but not after that I think I might have had the flu and bronchitis according to my nurse fiance|0 Fighting with misinformation and snake oil sellers is going to be more difficult than fight the virus|0 This is very true and the real threat comes from lack of medical care due to overwhelmed hospitalsIm not trying to down play it Im a small business owner and I moved all of my employees to working remotely for the foreseeable futureI also just dont think we should all panic and lose our minds in the mean time|0 And Im betting AL will continue to put up significantly lower numbers than other states because of this preventative approach Seriously you could subtract Alabamas infection rate from another states rate to calculate how incompetent and irresponsible their local officials are|0 Not sure how political correctness is involved in Trump firing anyone who disagrees with him How does his refusal to fill vacant position of leadership roles relate to education Trump is in charge of everything involved with the federal government Like he himself had said in the past the buck stops with the presidency If he puts undersigned people in positions of leadership or refuses to fill those roles then it his entirely his responsibility If someone mishandled it and he doesnt replace them then it is his responsibility|0 For most people the flu requires nothing but bedrest and fluids to overcome The fatality rate is next to nothing its just that the number of infections is typically in the tens of millions annually in the US alone Not saying it isnt a big deal but if the coronavirus becomes as widespread as the flu the fatalities will be in the millions Its incredibly annoying to have to explain this to people all the time Plus most of them dont seem to understand what exponential growth means in practice They say only 10k people out of 14 billion thats a tiny fraction of the population not realizing that the number of infections could be in the tens of millions in a month if it isnt contained|0 Yeah youre probably right Thought it was a nice idea|1 Venice completely goes to sleep after dark My bunk mate was sexually assaulted walking down the canals after dark and we struggled to find a bar open past midnight on the weekend|0 Our local Hollywood 16 just closed and fired all the staff So guess what theater I will no longer be going to after this blows over Smh|0 please elaborate buttjudge69|1 I hope they were wearing PPE if they were doing CPR and even then its a risky thing to do on someone with COVID|1 Not gonna lie its been really hard watching Ohio do so awesomely from over here Im happy for yall but feel super doomed|1 Why would you be surprised that someone living with a sick person could also get sick|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Shame the government wont proved proper safety gear|0 Im not trying to get inside the ukgovs heads Where do I even suggest such a thing I would hope that their marker is somewhat in advance of what I suggestAll my 150 Deaths critical marker is indicating is that overload of NHS highdependency care is imminent It is unlikely that in the event of us getting to those kind of figures the public would be told that things are about to go catastrophically wrong To those outside the system it may not seem very much but it that figure is reached it is indicative of a very serious outcome and likely into the scenarios seen in Hubei and Italy Personal choices may be influenced by that knowledge but theres no compulsion for you to take any notice And it is exactly how the math works Math doesnt have a conscience|0 Well of course|1 Seriously What a bunch of shortsighted assholes|0 Your life is valuable bud Hang in there|1 Come to think of it what if we had a second high peak in November allowing Trump to delay the elections indefinitely|0 Cant test positive if you never get tested|0 Which one is warmer this time of year|1 Oh thank god haha Someone told me they were 5 times more likely to die and that terrified me But just to be clear youre not saying 8 chance of death right Youre saying 8 higher chance Like if I have a 10 out of 1000 chance of dying its now 18 out of 1000 Just want to make sure honestly because I am almost positive Im going to get this virus|1 I wasnt even aware about this on December I only have seen these in mid January I was like oh its another sars well itll end pretty soon NOT|1 Im saying exactly what I saidmeant SCOPE and SEVERITY of this outbreak hasnt been matched in 100 years not since the spanish flu Weve just been lucky My point being is this could be just as deadly as that one was no plagueetc since the Spanish Flu has scared the shit out of me like this one is I mean if you get this you could have irreparable lung damage or the inability to breath consciouslyautonomously Not to mention possibly other things we dont even know about yet or if it mutates who knows what it will be capable of This is the big one of my lifetime at least as a 40 year old Not denigrating Aids etc but mode of transmission for previous illnesses were a lot slowerharderetc this one on average each person getting it gives it to 2429 peoplewhich causes it to double every 6 days The USA isnt doing crap to curtail this they arent even testing or allowing tests NY has the labs in place for 2k testsday but the CDC isnt allowing them to test Its as if the government wants to kill its own instead of risk having huge s of infections being reported|0 This was answered in the AMA by experts earlier todayhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjgyoknIn short Yes|1 Im worried that if smoking worsens symptoms due to lung damage but nicotine helps then quitting smoking is the worst thing you could do right now unless you go on nicotine patches|0 How convenient Get tested during the weekend announce a negative test on Sunday so the stock market can rally for a few more days Every single move made by this administration is with the short term stock market in mind 100 pct|0 Could be only 100 or 200 cases spread across very big countries Might not notice a few dozen severe cases or might notice but wont announce anything publiclyAlso possible that many severe cases are reinfection cases so there could be fewer severe cases for first time infections|0 So they actually get break All well get is remote leaning oof lucky them|1 Thank you Do you use the internet sometimes for something else than fapping on youporn Where was you the last 6 weeks34 death rate from the WHOMain fucking source httpswwwwhointdgspeechesdetailwhodirectorgeneralsopeningremarksatthemediabriefingoncovid193march2020httpswwwwhointdgspeechesdetailwhodirectorgeneralsopeningremarksatthemediabriefingoncovid193march2020Thousands of news sites reporting the ratehttpswwwsciencealertcomcovid19sdeathrateishigherthanthoughtbutitshoulddrophttpswwwsciencealertcomcovid19sdeathrateishigherthanthoughtbutitshoulddrophttpswwwsciencealertcomcovid19sdeathrateishigherthanthoughtbutitshoulddrophttpswwwsciencealertcomcovid19sdeathrateishigherthanthoughtbutitshoulddrophttpswwwbusinessinsiderfruscoronavirusdeathratebyagecountries20203httpswwwbusinessinsiderfruscoronavirusdeathratebyagecountries20203httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathratehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathrate 60 fucking percent is from fucking Angela Merkel on March 10 Between 60 and 70 of the countrys population could contract COVID19 at some pointhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulationhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulationinsert here a shit load of similar linksx200BYOUR SOURCE THE SCIENTIST IS KNOWN TO BE HIGHLY UNRELIABLE|0 This is so discouraging Where is our leadership Shameful|0 Same At least if I die its not my problem any more|0 Make tea not war|1 What If this thing isnt mostly eliminated within a year most people are just going to go back to living their lives without constantly worrying about it I know Im not going to spend 3 years without traveling because of something that has a death rate of like 1|0 Yeah but 1100 times|1 I believe I speak for a lot of Americans who are waking up to how incompetent and criminal our federal government actually is Maybe we were the bad guys after all|0 Oh shit Hes really old too|0 A baby was rescued httpsmweibocn16180516644480101699843392|1 Certainly not medical grade but certainly useful in most other applications|1 what So youre saying we shouldnt lockdown because it cant last 618 months The economy is going to be a disaster with no drastic measures Im waiting for your explanation and ideas before blasting this because currently its nonsensical and the same protect the economy bullshit thats got us in the position|0 Depends on the state If we rarely get snow here then yeah we panic If its like Montana or Wisconsin or Alaska they dont|1 Edit to add they have went down to 19 deaths unsure of reason for inconsistency|0 That is true Remember big media cares only about big money Presenting the true view of the world is definitely against the policy|1 Isnt it more incompetence rather than budget cuts which is an important distinction imo|1 Ofcourse if everyone wasnt so selfishBut seeing as thats the case it doesnt look like the CCP is open to negotiation so to answer your question No|0 Well Im glad he had the ability to get tested stay at home to recover all the while getting paid and not having to worry about his employment sIn all seriousness I hope this is the straw that breaks the camels back that brings upon Medicare for all|1 Imagine if they actually would do thisNow thats a step to Ready Player One|1 Today somebody came in to work in a mask with what could very well be COVID19 They looked like shit with a pale and somewhat sweaty face sore throat and said the doctor says it could be a respiratory infection Said that the doctor tried to get her tested but that they couldnt get one But Im trying not to touch anythingWe had literally just had a meeting about COVID19 response I said Lets make sure to stress to our group of staff not to come to work if they might be sick or were in contact with someone that was sick And they were like Yeah that should go without sayingThere was a guy at work that is probably in his 60sI cant even|0 This is the kind of thing that makes me think we really have a problem on our hands If China is quarantining entire cities with millions of people and similar stringent measures are being taken in other countries like South Korea and Iran and simultaneously our media who loves disaster porn pretends its nothingits probably something major and they are being told to keep it hush from above Contrast the coverage of this with Ebola or SARS The media made these out to be major events and were loving raking in the money from people tuning in to get news of it They have another opportunity to embellish this for readersviewers to make a lot of money and they are strangely hush Meanwhile weve not seen the draconian measures being taken by some countries in such large scales before over a scare All signs point to a sincerely worrisome pandemic|1 What about like an interlock device type thing where your phone has to take a picture of you|1 Ok Thats gross Just saying Cant get that picture out of my head|0 Ive studied canine infectious diseases for many years I am nowhere near an expert in human disease nor do I claim to be That being said I know more than the average person enough to feel comfortable saying dont lower a viral infection to subclinical levels using an antiviral medication and expect the immune system to be able to clear it I realized the word aggressive shouldnt have been usedThe mechanism for what I mean You need a full immune response to eliminate a viral infection Antivirals alone wont do it but they can definitely help the strain on the body of fighting the infections keep symptoms and viral load managableHowever If you over use them you also eliminate immune response and clinical symptoms Then when you withdraw them the viral load increases as the virions start replicating again That is how HIV treatment works you lower the viral load to subclinical levels using antivirals but correct use of an antiviral in a typical infectious disease involves lowering the viral load enough to stop severe symptoms while still keeping enough active and replicating virions to allow the immune system to mount a full immune responseThere seemed to be a lot of throwing at the wall and seeing what sticks since it was a new virus and it seems some patients may have been over aggressively treated with antivirals which caused the viral load to drop to subclinical levels and then they tested negative so were let go Then the virus started replicating again leading to the infection returning|1 Your assumption is not warranted In fact the study shows a similar amount of virus in the upper respiratory track between asymptomatic and symptomatic subjects Secondly I dont know what circles you move through but in my social circle it would be seen as obnoxious and unacceptable to be putting fingers in noses and then wiping the grossness on objects etc even when alone Jesus Christ thats just gross and unnecessary|0 He didnt even bother to wear a mask|1 this is going to be a common occurrence with lack of hospital beds available Well be sending noncritcal patients out of hospital quickly to make room for the next person|0 Symptom mitigation quarantine subversion Thank you for naming that for me|1 For total expected cases per day recommend to use the WorldOMeter data for total cases outside of China as of about Jan 27 or 28 were there were only 66 and 84 cases respectively The US is at 73 nowhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronaviruscasescasetotoutchinahttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronaviruscasescasetotoutchina|1 It was always too late to stop the spreadan airborne virus with asymptomatic carriers is next to impossible to control|0 Reminder the surgeon general has stated that masks are not effective in preventing you from catching coronavirus The government is lying to us all|0 imho the only option where coke is not useless against the virus apocalypse would probably be as a disinfectant for toilets lol |1 I will be messaging you in 7 days on 20200319 191902 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003192019190220UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffy4tgrealuscoronaviruscasesmayhavetopped9000fk1kk6hcontext3131 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Fffy4tg2Frealuscoronaviruscasesmayhavetopped90002Ffk1kk6h2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020031920193A193A0220UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120ffy4tgInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Dont be Variable rates are what caused people to lose their homes in 2008 Be safe in knowing that youre not going to see that sort of rwte increase when the market rebounds|1 I dont think anyone ever claimed life is fair I get what youre saying though|1 But they could be doing more And Im not talking about the govt or health officials because they have been kicking butt but Im talking about the people in Korea and more specifically Seoul I live in Seoul in the Gangnam area a major hub of business and shopping I only leave my apartment for two things work and supplies I have very direct routes to those things I always wear a mask never touch my face and always wash my hands throughout the day I dont know whats going on but the last few days me and my coworkers have been seeing some worrying behavior from a lot of people here in Seoul I had to completely change my route to work because on the way to my bus there is an area that business people congregate during the lunch time walking around in large groups 510 people and none of them are wearing masks I have been passing by coffee shops sometimes full of patrons with like couples holding hands And again no one is wearing a mask Just today I was waiting for the bus the only bus I take for work and an old man not wearing a mask leans over me to take a picture of the bus route He was about 5 inches from my face I immediately moved and so did the girl who was sitting next to me wearing a mask I think the guy realized his mistake because he then moved far away from the bus stop Once we got on the bus the man put on a mask I know a lot of people in Korea and Seoul are doing a great job following the rules and staying vigilant but so many are becoming complacent as this thing drags on I worry that there will be another major outbreak in Korea and this time in a city of 10 millionSorry for the long post Its been frustrating seeing all this this week when Seoul just got a new cluster of cases Hopefully we continue to have low numbers and fight through this|0 Medcram talked about this it had something to do with its ability to deliver zinc to the inner cell that stops the virus from reproducinghttpsyoutubeU7F1cnWup9M|1 I wont lie and say Im not worried about my grandparents theyre both in their 80s They are healthy though and they stuck around this long for a reason Im cautiously optimistic|1 Thrilled to live in Central Kentucky THRILLED|1 Ive noticed a relative lack of cases in the southern hemisphere like Africa and South America That could be due to a variety of reasons but also because its the summer in the southern hemisphere currently Possible that well see a flip as the seasons change|1 In BC almost all the cases are in Vancouver and the Fraser Valley There is one case in the southern Interior and one on Vancouver Island They government wont tell us which towns a case is in They will just give the name of the Health authority region Some of the regions are very big|1 Remember the spaces after the commas please youre giving me a headache|1 This is a good thing Almost everyone I have talked to about infectious diseases over time does not know that Ebola is named after the Ebola River in the region where it was first identified It creates an ever lasting stigma for the region or feature a disease is named after that now has to be overcome for the rest of time|1 Interesting I never thought about that|1 Yes it is only possible to worry about one thing at a time|0 Thanks for sharing this|1 That was fast thanks His post was the easiest report Ive made in months I can give you some Clorox wipes to clean the banhammer if it helps|1 Ingen risk lter oserist frn ngon i hennes position ven om risken bedms som lg The woman had not been in contact with other people since returning to Sweden so there is no risk of her having spread the virus Malin Bengner an infectious diseases doctor in Jnkping told a press conference on Friday afternoon|0 I downloaded it a few days ago for son hes only 3 He loves it We play together we can go out and have a good walk and he is entertained without needing to go to the park Im trying to avoid crowds|1 This i stocked up on cleaning supplies dish and laundry detergent trash bags hand soap toiletries cold medicine and food We already had paper towels and toilet paper because I buy it in bulk|1 How is your fever doing now Get better soon man Best of luck|1 That study only had a mortality rate of 14were those only hospitalized patientsI was just starting my career when h1n1 came out and there were enormous mortality rates in the news 510 But as we learned more the fear died down a bit Wuhan is really hard to read as its impossible to know any real macro numbers|0 Farmers dont hate their cattle but will still lead them to the slaughter Ceos dont hate the workers but do see them as useful idiots ripe for exploitation Its kinda hard not to call that hate imo|1 Test tits|0 Im in Bulgaria so Im walking home last Friday and I overhear this conversationThe media is dramatizing this so much gosh Im sure this virus wont even come here My nephew is in Italy and he told me dont listen to the news it makes it all look so scary its all normal here Nothing wrong at allThen next day they closed Lombardi considering closing Milan people rushing out and deaths and cases still rising exponentiallyThen at midnight we announced our first 4 cases and theyre all community spread meaning tip of the icebergSome people just dont understand whats happening until it hits them straight in the face And then some|1 Yeah Its just a flu|0 I just hope for a full lockdown for some time No one leaves their house for anything for a month or so Only because i see it lasting for less of a time Had so many plans this summer Lets be optimistic and well be sure not to take anything granted moving forward This shows how much we take basic wellness and freedom for granted|1 Mild is often pneumonia anyone with pneumonia will probably go and get turned away if they arent descending into organ failure and ARDS|0 Reading the paper it looks like Camostat is the protease inhibitor which is used in Japan under a lot of names looks easy enough to mass produce httpswwwdrugscominternationalcamostathtml|1 And run marathons visit theme parks the movies support local business|1 Independence is not the same thing as sovereignty Independence is calling for China to abide by the joint declaration and to not interfere with HK elections and standards of living Independence and self determination are synonymous Trade relations can continue with independence but China wants to push the narrative that it is impossible|1 Julian is a great little town Rent a boat at the lake nearby|1 Does anyone know where the comedian that bounced from the cruise ship went Is he in close proximity to any of these outbreaks|1 Singapore is doing very well recently best among all the infected countries No new cases last couple days If we believe government numbers that is|1 same can be said about you when you drop dead account created yesterday rofl loser|0 This pandemic and the public reaction has led me to believe that people have been so incredibly removed from biological reality of living on this planet that they may as well have shown up here a month ago Its mind boggling|1 I know I am the minority here but I prefer to watch shows from 2050 years ago so Netflix barely works for me anyways Yeah dislike the minority|0 The United States was never designed as a direct democracy but a representative republic Of course over the course of 230 years that system has completely been subverted by a political elite class that depends on donations from American Oligarchs|1 There was no delay in calling it a pandemic A pandemic has a VERY specific definition and once it hit that definition they classified it as such|0 400 confirmed cases in 4 days in Italy shows good amounts of community spread at least in colder countries|1 And then if they close schools you cant go into work because you have to watch Kids Wtf do you even do if schools are closed for a few weeks|0 Irans government lying about true numbers of infected and deaths they are much higher They make doctors to put something else as cause of deathIt makes me sad that people perish this way and government get away with it every day|0 Its reverse paychology Nothing spreads information faster than gossip and nosey people|0 That is great to hear nice to know my advice was usefull |1 Holy This is fear mongering to the extreme Damn|0 The CDC told the State Department to NOT put those infected on the cruise ship on a plane with regular travelers The State Department over ruled them and put people infected with COVID19 on an international flight anyway The CDC has been barred from making public statements that havent been approved by the WhitehouseThe CDCs pandemic response team was gutted in 2017 by Trumps budget for his buddies The CDC is massively underfunded and all of their top scientists and doctors were let go I think the quote was something like we have tons of doctors Well just hire some if we need themMike Pence actually held a press conference to inform the public of what was being done to combat COVID19 but didnt allow audio or video recording Dont even start about how people are going to us this as a platform to blame the current government Your boy is a fucking idiot and has bungled this every step of the way All he is worried about is the economy so much so that he has yall believing its a hoax and a liberal plot to destroy his credibilityIf we are hit half as bad as China we are wholly and utterly fucked|0 Oligarchs please learn what an oligarch is both of these rich geeks is not an oligarch|1 The title of the post does not provide an accurate description of the information within or does not relate to the coronavirus itself If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 smart move the markets will get fucked I would withdraw eerything too|0 Do you happen to know if the u40 number is just from these new deaths or overall|1 Im sure a lot of things were talked about on WeChat in December|1 Havent several TSA agents and health screeners tested positiveWe are fucked|0 The Labour MP Maria Eagle has asked the health secretary about the decision to allow Atletico Madrid fans to come to the UK for their teams Champions League last 16 second leg matchSchools and colleges are closed in Madrid and public gatherings of over 1000 people banned because theres a cluster of 782 coronavirus cases and there have been 35 deathsIs it really sensible for fans who couldnt watch their team at home to be able to travel to Liverpool and watch their team play with 51000 locals Is that really sensibleHancock repliedWe are aiming at the things that have the biggest impact and there are some things that feel right but dont have an impact at all and thats why its so important to follow the science and what Public Health England say No impact|1 That it cant go on increasing exponentially for ever is obvious to everyone that it is currently exponentialmeans me havent hit any limiting factor yet so that its spreading exponentially is very important and it also lets you predict how many future cases we can expect the load on hospitals and so on|1 I have no problem being confined to my apartment But then Im already immune compromised and since the rest of the world doesnt give a fuck for flu vaccine or minimal hygiene winter already is a minefield for me every year and I wish I could just stay home|1 Still down I havent seen a good ol hug of death in a while|0 Thats not very smart of the church if you step into one here in Italy its 95 old people If the virus spreads there theres not gonna be many people left to attend|0 I posted a little over a week ago about my prepper friendnurse basically calling me gullible and a fearmongerer about this whole thing She just messaged me an hour ago asking for help and for me to tell her everything I know about the spread incubation Yada Yada Im torn Its a lot of info I tried to talk to her and was basically laughed at and mansplained Shes actually one of the best mansplainers Ive ever met Lol its annoying she was a jerk and now theres finally confirmed cases in her state she wants me to do all the work I think Ill send her 2 or 3 articles and be done with it However the thing that makes me absolutely IRATE is the whole Its a hoax the Republicans are saying its a hoax by the Democrats to derail trumps reelection and the democrats are saying its a hoax by the Republicans to enforce a state of emergency so trump can skip the election and stay in office Really But those of us that have been educating ourselves about the virus are the paranoid conspiracy theorists Lmao I would deactivate my fb until this is over but I need it to stay in touch with my family Disasters bring out the worst in people The whole situation is sad I honestly wish it was a hoax or not even as bad as it really is Id love to have been wrong and just being paranoid|0 I reuse mine as I have only one too I treat it with UV light for 3040 seconds from a close proximity I saw a study that said UV light is effective in destroying viruses on surfaces And also they used similar measures in highcontainment hospitals in Wuhan so I hope it will be enough Still seems way better than not using the mask at all|1 Is closing schools preemptively a good idea My government is claiming that a the children dont actually stay home so we prefer to be able to keep an eye on whats going on and b people lose patience and begin to ignore especially draconic measures Im partial to both arguments but the Danes and Norwegians have clearly made a different calculation Im in Sweden btw|1 And then lower in the article stillAt this time little is known about how the coronavirus affects people with asthma One study of 140 cases showed no link to asthma1According to the WHO and the CDC the highest risk groups includePeople caring for someone who is ill with coronavirusPeople over age60People with chronic medical conditions such asHigh blood pressureHeart diseaseDiabetesAsthma|0 There is a distinct possibility if the test was truly negative that it was a false negative due to him not having a high enough viral count in his system yet I guess well see|0 I have flour yeast and a bread maker on the way Always wanted to try it figure since I am stuck inside till mid April and the 2 loaves I have now will be gone by the end of the week we might as well make fresh bread|1 Best wishes from Maryland USA |1 People who bought their ticket last November like me Its just a layover but will fuck me|0 In the past that has required a war and millions of deaths Its a difficult path to reverse|0 If they were really concerned they would have worn hazmat suits Wtf cant a rich ignorant athlete recklessly jeopardize the health of others for a cringey laugh anymore I dont wanna live in this planet anymore|0 I am not so sure about the actual number of case in UK UK just exported nearly a dozen of cases to Vietnam|0 Denver 8 weeks state 30 days Not sure if they will synchronize|0 New York close the damn schools LilyNo Noooooooooooooo New York|0 No|0 The problem has another side we literally havent heard a single word of encouragement from what time believe would be our natural ally among world powers the USA single word Not stuff not money wordNow if we dig among the declarations and tweets probably we can find something but nothing that was actually strong enough to cut thru and actually reach the peopleThis spectacular absence this near total silence struck me as an extremely bad sign of the US being completely uninterested geopoliticallywise in Italy apart from the soil for the military bases This is by the way not how a world power behavesIt would be nice to have been given an alternative but that alternative seem really looking the other way ensuring to not be present way worse than just playing deadI agree that with this event China has established herself as the major power I just wonder if its not also the only one The US has given upAnd theres also another aspect China has won completely but its also true that the crisis showed a fatal fragility in the supply chains I wonder if that will be fixed too and if will be fixed ironically by China itself instead of being exploited by the US|0 UV is only effective on non porus surfaces in direct line of sight It is a light wave and like any light only travels a straight line It does not take corners and even a mirrored reflection reduces effectiveness by approximately 60 it is not a cureall It simply reduces the viral load of a non porus surface Do not think you are safe due to being in a UV sterilized environment You are only safer|1 That picture makes me uncomfortable Bravo for doing the right thing but like social distancing|1 Hell I thought the issue was only for pregnant women in the first place|0 Almost Theyre doctors How much more heroic can you get|1 I looked yesterday and couldnt find anything There was an anti profiteering bill put forward in 1997 that never made it into law which would cover these situations|0 Only within the last few days For weeks Ive been one of those people not taking the virus seriously My husband is more on the the world is ending side of panicking Now Im checking the map update site multiple times a day looking for new USA cases watching the death toll climb Weve stockpiled 46wks of supplies in case we need to stay inside All thats left to do is order extra pet food and try to stay calm|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 People think Im crazy for prepping on a small scale We live in Seattle We are the first city thats going to get hit Dont you think its a good idea to be stockpiling water But no|0 Companies above 500 are not providing leave pay that I know of|1 49 mortality rate for critical cases|0 Obviously la is quite dense but its reasonably warm and very sunny albeit not very humidi live a bit north of LA but we have just had a pretty nice tropical rainstorm that came up from that way its been rainy and not really that warm lately|1 Lets all consider that the CDC gets its orders from the executive branch who is lead by the PresidentIt doesnt take Rocket Appliances to realize where the accountability should fallI believe the CDC has been hamstrung by this Administration For if no other reason than to try and preserve the wealth of the first family Hes probably stock trading every time he sees the stocks rebound before he allows the next bad news out|0 link to the newspapers pagehttpsvideocorriereittorinocoronavirusmihastravoltovitarestatecasanongioco972be37666f911eaa26c9a66211caeeeCouldnt take the videos link sorry Its in italian|0 Great for your lung health Good move|1 Im sure shes aware since she works in medical and all|1 3433 peoplehttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2009flupandemicbycountry in the US died from Swine Flu in 2009 out of 113690 confirmed cases Where are you getting that 12k number from|0 Probably testing an x amount of random people and if a certain percentage had the virus or antibodies they knew they had it|1 Didnt claim you were doing so in poor faith The people below your comment are looking to be reminded in 14 days and will think oh okay its growing 2x every two weeks when they look at your chart and see numbers that are close In reality this reality would be a sign that it will grow much FASTER than that come a few more weeks or a few more months Also its probably on pace to be even faster than you 15x graphic in the US on a daily basis|1 Americans had a pretty good heads up as to how seriously this government takes their well being and what support they could expect moving forward with Puerto Rico|1 Also dried beans and rice will bore you to death after some time I also spent more and additionally bought a lot of ready made food that doesnt require refrigeration and curry pastes so we have variety Then were also not tempted to go to the store that often if SHTF or in the worst case we could stay in for 12 months while at least food wise keeping some sanity|0 our daily number of new infected cases is still going up and we still have to go to work in packed trains Schools are still open So there can definitely be a spike in cases and more widespread infection at any timeThere it is folks pack it up theyre fucked|0 were they not already on skeleton crews for the CNY holiday|1 Id complain to management or even corporate about the worker who took a picture of you and said that That was extremely rude|0 Oh man I spent 2 months in Queens back in 2016 With how dense the population is in Honolulu the number of tourists from Asia the large homeless population and the reliance on supply lines from the mainland I hope you and your family friends are well prepared|1 Every little helps Each bit doesnt have to be the best to play a little part|1 Thanks|1 We should be super grateful that Yang gave America a crash course on universal income already So now when we desperately need it people are already exposed to the idea and might be willing to rationally consider it|1 mmmm if you dont sleep this way youre missing out|0 if it starts to be bad here in USA the army and national guard need to take over As of now I am sure this option is on the table they just dont tell us|0 It may drop among more affluent or more well educated segments of society But have you not watched the documentary movie Idiocracy |1 Im hearing rumors too but not from necessarily reliable sources Twitter accounts that are followed by some major players so I wonder if theyre actually knowledgeable insiders I do think its inevitable that a lockdown is coming similar to Italys I mean if we dont the fatality rate is going to be even bigger than whats predicted|1 Ive heard from the CDC if you are under 65 you will be fine Even if you get it you may not even know and at worst will be sickI work in a restaurant and see to many older people in because all the stores around town are sold out of food and everythingIf you are under even 55 please leave stuff for the venerable who should not go out in public to buy tooMost of us will be okay Even in Italy gas stations and grocery stores are still open|0 sounds like you were just sick|0 which is bad since the Americans are suffering economic failures|0 right I should have said respiratory illness which covers both coronaviruses and flus|0 BUTMY COFFEES RAWRin all seriousness though they shouldnt be working|0 Haha so cute|1 If by increased you mean decreased then yes Trump gutted anything that had Obamas name on it including the WHs pandemic office that was created during the Ebola outbreak|1 Id bet 100 that most people freaking out here dont get yearly flu shots If there was a covid19 flu shot would most people here get it|1 At a bare minimum stop taking cash AppleGoogle Pay only would be even better|1 What about dirty communist|0 good analogy some may joke others take it a bit too serious|1 Ill be the first to admit I was one of them thought people were only freaking out because its a new virus Now Im out of toilet paper if that makes up for it|0 this is a american website and people who run it mostly from a cult which once made chinese people kill themselves by burning|0 nice propaganda|1 This is common sense I posted this idea on nyc and got ridiculized for it I think my mistake was not using swear words 2020 clown world|0 He also said on NPR today that the airline industry across the board is in a much better financial position than it was right before 911|1 A friend who runs a large Vape store has told me that due to the onerous classification of Vapes as Aromatherapy they can still create shipments I guess its not a perfect system|1 Taking 2 as many precautions as turnout to be necessary doesnt do you any better than taking 70 as many precautions as turn out to be necessary|1 Wow thats so wholesome gj Italy also gg wp|1 The system could have all the rating they want but they did fuck up at the beginning They turned away people with coronavirus without testing Some of them had to go 3 times until they got tested and confirmed Even with the cases confirmed they were left for hours in the waiting room with unconfirmed cases before getting isolated|0 Well Id honest keep going higher up until someone takes it seriously|1 Im using it as a convenient example if governments actually wanted to learn the lesson of wuhan there are much better sources available much easierFor example China has been publishing and updating their diagnostic and treatment guide 7 versions in 9 weekshttpswwwchinalawtranslatecomene696b0e59e8be586a0e78ab6e79785e6af92e882bae7828ee8af8ae79697e696b9e6a188e8af95e8a18ce7acace4b883e78988Which is a gold mine of information on this virus and how to fight it but few people are even aware of it even though Bruce Aylward mentioned it repeatedly in his press conference stressing about it|0 So dumb question about this Should this be done as a preventative measure even if you have no symptoms|0 Yep|1 That place should be turned into a shiny glassy parking lot Maybe humanity will have a better chance then|1 Thanks We swapped it in|1 What if Herd Immunity is just a way to purge idiotsIf I thought that was how diseases worked Id be real careful arguing that idiots should be purged|0 Oh right haha yeah for some reason I assumed you meant within the next month Yeah I agree with you |1 I agree just popped my lunesta and hoping to god to fall asleepAnd next night high as hell on 3 hits of weed Light weight but efficient|1 Florida Man will catch COVID19 infect an RV park full of retirees drive drunk then disrobe in a WalMart as a protest at the lack of TP but ultimately survive|0 Switzerland is a lovely place but they also tend to lean on homeopathy a bit too much for me to want to ride out an epidemic there|1 Im a college student Many people my age are not worried about the virus Lots of people are saying America is overreacting to the virus since the symptoms are just like the flu My question is is this virus being overhyped or is this something that is actually serious|1 We can slow it down China has done that UK has a plan By slowing it we can treat better and not overcrowd the hospitals But yes I agree In a month this will be the biggest thing weve ever gone through since 911|1 While that is the common sense route stipulations are set by both the hospital and travel company If anyone is going to take that contract it is for the high pay and should know the risk The reason these contracts are even out there is critical needs of staff in those areas They cant have contractors who they need to work come out to get sick and just get paid because they will be one extra person that needs to be treated monitored etcso most hospitals or treatment centers will have heavy stipulations in the contract in regards to that|0 What do you think of an iron lung People used to create them in garages in the 50s and they were reported to save lives Where I live Australia it was actually how most iron lungs were created to do problems in shipping such large items|1 Think what you will I have no time for people that ignore basic science in favour of bashing an ethnicity because they have yet another shit government No government is different They dont give a flying fuck about you me or anyone else The only thing they worry about is whether this virus will hurt their bottom lines and their countries economies Nothing else You I and everyone else are expendable|0 ABSTRACT HCoV19 SARS2 has caused 88000 reported illnesses with a current casefatality ratio of 2 Here we investigate the stability of viable HCoV19 on surfaces and in aerosols in comparison with SARS CoV1 Overall stability is very similar between HCoV19 and SARSCoV1 We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization up to 4 hours on copper up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 23 days on plastic and stainless steel HCoV19 and SARSCoV1 exhibited similar halflives in aerosols with median estimates around 27 hours Both viruses show relatively long viability on stainless steel and polypropylene compared to copper or cardboard the median halflife estimate for HCoV19 is around 13 hours on steel and around 16 hours on polypropylene Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV19 is plausible as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on surfaces up to days|0 Playing civ it definitely feels like one|1 This is awesome I know theres been a lot of justified criticism of the Chinese Communist Partys suppression of the truth and facts and at times especially in December and early January ineffective response But the heroism of lots of chinese medical staff construction workers taxi drivers etc is shining through There are so many people risking their lives to help others|1 I have a Doctorate degree in RacismI wrote a paper about how to use neutral demonym to cause social stigma If anyone calls me racist I just finger point at the regime so no one sees my equally bad incompetency How can I be racist Excuse you I say it not meant to racist so I can never racist Jesus cHiNa TrOlLs ArE eVeRyWhErE nOw|0 Stock market tank school closing travel ban NFL and NBA season cancel amusement parks and large gathering ban Thats just the beginning|0 People are saying Im a super spreader Im not saying it but people are The best spreader theyve ever seen|1 Youve literally just copied the top Twitter reply outstanding work|1 Yeah its very alarming Johnsons response has been worse than Trump Havent heard a fucking word since his herd immunity press conference He is the worst|0 Maybe practice good hygiene wash your hands when you get home from a public place and dont touch your face with your dirty ass hands unless theyve been washedJust because everyone isnt as scared as the 5000 people that comment on this subreddit everyday doesnt mean they dont care Plenty of people care theyre just not taking things and blowing it out of proportion|0 Unfortunately this is going to hurry a lot of small businesses|0 Or they can compartmentalize and wish he handled this situation better without totally flipping to he is an absolute idiot in all things|1 Reply to my comment if anyone tells you please I wanna know|1 The picture on the article is creeping me out Either literally every member of the congregation is in the choir or their lockstep cult mentality extends to clothing|1 Fatoldugly blue haired liberal land whales in pussy hats would be demanding the right to let babies die of COVID19|0 I have It WAS very terrible Both I and my superresilient 4 year old started coughing and kept coughing for days I heard its cleared up now what with virus|0 ALABAMA Some in AL are taking the virus seriously with large gatherings and some courts being postponed I love my state but it is ridiculous that more is not being doneAs an attorney myself Im exposed to hundreds of people in the courthouse a day and in the jails where I see clients and certain counties are not doing anything to prevent the spread or stop this contact I have what my doctor thought was a sinus infection with fever and headache Not a cough but serious headache and fatigue She called me in antibiotics and said not worry about coming into her office Three days later Im still running a minor fever have tickle in my throat and headache wont abate I havent even been tested for flu but Ive already had both strains this year I cant home quarantine for a few weeks to make sure its nothing more than a cold because I have mandatory appearances that will get me in trouble with court if I miss and potentially violate client rights I wash my hands constantly and sanitize office surfaces and try to minimize contact in my office We are a small firm but all of us have elderly family who are at major risk And of course I cant just go somewhere in my area and be quickly evaluated because no centers or testing is set up ALABAMA not having cases is a joke I love my state but people are being blind I dont want our economy and schools to have to halt but I dont want my family members who have MS and weak immune systems to catch this thing So what to do We live in a first world country that should have been preparing from the moment the virus existence was mentioned And despite what the government chooses to say this is something people should take seriously because there are many who are at high risk I am hopeful all Im dealing with is one of my chronic sinus infections and Im doing all I can to practice social distancing and good hygiene but if we had tests readily available and were actually using them ALABAMA would have plenty of confirmed cases The government needs to wake up At the very least get testing available to slow the curve and prevent the hospitals from being overrun Lets face it most of us will get it but if the right healthcare and testing are available the majority will weather the storm and be alright Italy is having to choose who to save and they are known for having a good system I just hope that is not what we end up with across the US|1 IFR is WAY too high and r0 might be too The Diamond Princess is a good lesson On a boat full of a LOT of 60 80 year olds for two weeks shared space buffets all that 4000 passengers and crew 710 cases 400 asymptomatic 7 deaths all over 70 with little to no extraordinary treatment Less than 1 in this basically perfect scenario for mass death|1 I had read a paper from China like a week ago It was about the Chloroquine therapy The notes said they were administering high doses of Chloroquine in the amounts of 1g daily for 7 days Along with this they were giving them high doses of Vitamin C and Oxygen therapy I can try to dig up the source link but Ive got like 1000 bookmarks now related to the virus It was also in one of the virus subs here as well Even so they had no real hard data but I know they had people recover using it But who actually knows if those people would have recovered anyways without the therapy I believe one person was said to recovered in 7 days They were also basically saying it really needed to be looked into more thoroughlyI havent seen any updates since then thoughnot sure if any of this was previously mentioned but Im sorry if it was|1 To the people touting the essential service line for convenience stores let me ask you this how much stock do you think we have and are able to getWe get a delivery three times a week Most essentials are gone in a day We are two feet in front of customers including some truly disgusting crackheads and have to risk getting the virus for what Making sure that about 5 people can get milk and bread Selling candyWe can keep the pumps open and close the god damn store there is no reason why the convenience stores need to remain open in the face of the actual grocery stores At our chain we have made a new rule that means customers cant come in with their own cups to refill a fountain drink Guess how many of them waltz right in and do it anyway Oh sure NOW we are bleaching everything in the past few days because Circle Ks bottom dollar is finally being threatened But for those of us handling dirty money all day being told that we wont shut down unless the government makes us whats our recourse then if we get sick Theyll pay us 2 weeks pay if we get the virus only you cant get a fucking test here in Tucson believe me Ive tried So Im just supposed to eat this shit sandwich and be grateful that 520 people actually got the supplies they need instead of garbage candy and sodaNo fuck you Shut it down Let people get gas and grab the essentials at the gigantic grocery stores|0 This is true I live in LouisianaWe are currently house shopping I have wonderful seasonal allergies so I currently have a horrible cough While walking the house with the realtor I cough and say dont worry its not the virus only same allergy symptoms I have every year Her response Its ok I dont believe in the virus anywayIts just a political hoax to scare everyone because of the upcoming election I really just couldnt believe some actually believed that and would admit itScary|1 But still if youre young and you dont have any of those issues youre probably not at as high of a risk|0 We are already looking at it now it is inevitable 36 more months would be like 1929 depression|0 Its our idiotic chief executive who ask for the ccp Did you think the mass public after the last 6 months will ask CCP Have you seen the masks they sent to the pro china party Thin as fuck literally 2 ply Most of us who are preppers wont use Chinese local brand masks We make sure our surgical masks have VFENIOSH standards as much as we can|0 It seems reasonable to treat them as upper and lower bounds in my opinion|1 Stop calling it COVID19 thats a stupud name given to it by the China Knob slobbering WHO Call it by its real name Winnie the flu|0 They do not care at all People have trusted them and they will have failed them|0 Everyone putting up a reminder in here is off The quadratic rate of growth seen here is extremely unlikely in terms of how viruses spread on this scale The growth rate is far more likely to be exponentialThe fact that our REPORTED numbers are growing quadratically is a great sign that our reporting abilities are growing at a constant rate and are the limiting factor on reported growth while the reality of the data set is exponential The actual reality one can expect from there is that our reporting capacity is maximized for the current rate of growth which is likely exponential because all viruses of this scale are spread exponentially especially ones that are literally the most contagious of all time like covid19 Even if we expand our test reporting capacity we we will not do so at a rate that can keep up and thus will likely appear quadraticSo whatever this guy puts in this chart will be absolutely irrelevant to you determining the true growth rate of the virus In fact if it continues to grow quadratically its an amazing sign that our testing capabilities are maximized and that the virus is probably well beyond quadratic growth and looking more like its exponentially growing as expected You will not be able to see this completely until months in the future because of the long incubation period of the virus 1424 days the long period of time to takes to die from the virus media 14 days and how the disease is kicking off amongst different countries with different population sizes Even then the growth rate will be limited and look quadratic due to testingRealistically the disease has passed the barrier for control 35 billion people will have it by the end of summer|1 If you have a non smoker and a smoker that are both confirmed the smoker is more likely to progress to severe case and death I agree this is what the data shows However if you are a smoker probably also asthmatics etc from what Ive seen you are even more less likely to be confirmed|0 Definitely not enough advice being conveyed to the public about this Most of my neighbours are pensioners and are under the impression theyre immune because of the flu jab Its as if the UK is in its own bubble and in denial|1 But a lot of people are being refused tests also|0 People from all over the world are in Sawgrass right now Jax about to get fucked|0 Here in Brazil was found several suspects of cases Im afraid that this thing catches me|0 The government already said that will be having supplies through supermarket so that shouldnt be a problem|1 Unfortunately this is very much where we are at|0 Well the president says it is all a hoax That is sooooo helpful Why dont we start doing something sensible like closing the borders if you have had any contact with China you are at home with an ankle monitor etc etc Cheeto head is about be on TV telling us all is well etc etc etc And Reddit isnt being helpful with its pro China censorship policies|1 Much of the sewage issue is from having dry U pipes orand negative pressure|0 stop|0 Irony Dad sold insurance Mom is a retired hospital laboratory manager Perhaps I should|0 It wouldnt be called panic buying if they were prepared|1 Good one|1 Yeah people dont seem to realize that your average grocery store gas station etc has about 3 days worth of inventoryIt does not require a longterm sustained interruption of supply chains to feel the shortages 72 hours and you start feeling it and maybe another 57 days for the unprepared to work through their fridgepantry contents If water andor power go out things spiral much faster It doesnt take long for people to start getting desperate|0 Have you seen the requests going out to join the Medical Advisory Team Its a great way to get everyone to tell the government what your supply of OTC medications and vitamins is You even get points Lol Its sponsored by something called Take Out That should be a big enough hint They ask for exact names quantity bought where you bought it even how many pills you have left Now that is scary City governments in Texas are already being sent these levels of what to do when Were already to Enhanced which still doesnt want you to do much to inform the public Within weeks or at most a month well be in Emergency which I consider too late Yes Im a Mayor with her hands tied|1 Theyve always been that way I dont even bother browsing the sub anymore|1 Adopt a healthy attitude Be aware of how germs spread and prevent yourself from spreading them Think of activities you can do that are a low infectivity risk parks walks camping etc The people that do this have the best chance of staying healthy and also maintaining a positive mood|1 Yeah Im in Oklahoma and Im terrified Im a postal worker and not a lot of people are taking it too seriously No one here is sick yet from what I understand but I hear oh its just like the flu all the time At the same time though if we have to stop delivery a lot of people will be missing shipments of vital medicine Im going to stay home if I get sick but working the front counter I fear its only a matter of time I dont know what will happen|0 Theres a very real problem with conflating races and populations So yeah different groups of people does not imply races it implies populations The problem is and always has been that people assume when you talk about differences between two or more populations that you can extrapolate this to mean racial differences Race is a social construct populations are very real and they exist across traditionally defined racial lines in some cases and one race may have many different populations such as Africans for example|0 healthy and young I dont think it affects them|1 Fair enough Hadnt thought of that|1 I agree too Im in grocery stores all day for work and they just keep telling us that our health is their 1 concern Well then when can we get out of those places packed with people for a bit|1 Gonna need source on that one ladAs in a clip sorry Tough times|0 I said a week ago they should hand everybody a free World of Warcraft subscription and wed be done with this already|1 some people dont sub until theyve been lurking for 24 days|0 Woot team AMD|1 The US isnt testing because they know exactly what will happen if they do the number of cases will skyrocket and everyone will flood their local hospitals which are not preparedable to handle the influx of patients Theyre trying their best to sweep all this under the rug and postpone the inevitable at this point Instead of flattening the curve theyre trying to ignore it altogether This is insane|0 is really badNot at all its a numbers game and india has a lot of people There is no plague in the world that can thin that herd|0 Why is 1000 the magic number That is fucking chump change and they know it But lets applaud them for doing the bare minimum yet again|1 If given the choice between donating to the organization or donating an equivalent dollar amount of electricity bill in the form of computer time which is better|1 Honestly dont care about what happened before COVID19 only care about what happens now Criticizing an administration for how they acted before an important issue like this one just seems trivial IMO|0 I was denied to be seen at my doctors office I called beforehand and they say to call the county health department|0 Two years ago we stopped hiring at our ma and pa shop and just streamlined the work and stopped offering a few services I have never felt more grateful to have made that decision and not have to let people go NOW That being said my husband and I are in trouble|0 what a clever bunch you guys are O upvotes all around|1 America cant get masks because all of Asia bought them and we let them buy them Id love to get a mask you cant find them|1 That company is obsolete|0 Ontario paramedic here weve been instructed to now as of today only screen for generic travel doesnt matter now if theyre recently returned from Toronto USA Wuhan or Antarctica if they have febrile respiratory symptoms plus travel we are to treat as suspected COVIDOur local hospitals nursing staff have gone to screening for any international travel including USA|1 If I were that old I would probably be weighing cancer against coronavirus and probably deciding that the virus isnt the worst way to go By the time youre in your 80s you know you have to die of one thing or another relatively soon|0 Same Sacramento area My family just came back from a trip to Europe Italy Spain France in that order and dont think its real because they werent stopped at the airport My sisters are sick with because hospitals wont test them for coronavirus and have now spent time with my grandmother and probably numerous other people Theyre mad at me for contributing to mass hysteria and saying that Im awful for not wanting to hang out with them None of my friends are taking this seriously even the immunocompromised ones they just went out for dinner tonight I work at a bar and have to continue going to work because people keep going out The bar was packed yesterday Im very tired Were going to have an awful time over the next few months|0 its not a question of right or wrong but rather whether or not they are handling it to the best of their abilities|1 Unfortunately due to the medical system being overwhelmed and medical suppliespersonnel being spread so thin I can imagine patients are not going to get quality of care they need to fight off the disease for some time It is truly tragic that so many have died At the same time it also seems the quarantine effect is working so I am hoping this will reduce new cases to the point they can work through the backlog of cases and then begin delivering greater care to new cases as they emerge|1 All love mate I havent thought much at all about how its impacting people close to home either Glad your place was proactive and spoke up I hope its all smooth sailing from here|1 If Obama had been around the national security council would have an epidemic response team that would have isolation and testing in place Maybe even temporarily nationalize some industries to manufacture masks gloves goggles gowns ventilators ecmo machines etc while waiting for the virus to reach the homelandWhatifs|0 I worked for this company years back and could tell you so many stories Ill just say theyre an awful company and this crisis is exposing their greed|0 Its not the virus shutting your immune system down its your own immune system secreting so many cytokines that your TCells are exhausted or that there is much less of them It is indeed most pronounced in those in critical condition but this happens on some level with a ton of infections it just seems to happen to a pretty big level here|1 Comic sans Thats almost worse|0 And Im sure they wont admit how wrong they were and just claim nobody could have known how bad it would get and pretend it wasnt a problem until they decided it was Eat crow assholes|0 For sure and to be completely honest i had a wonderful experience living there and those that were teaching me Japanese even told me I was learning country japanese like american redneck they would say LOLEven with the skepticism it never felt like racism or at least outwardly they were always the most polite and nice people|1 I agree but the main concern is availability and use of personal protective equipment Id prefer not to catch the virus of course but working with patients who have infectious diseases kind of comes with the territory|1 Good for you Seriously Sometimes you have to take action to protect your self|1 Best in Doesnt cost anything to the average individual or best in good care |1 WHO China has handled this perfectly bodies burning in thw background by the thousands we will trust they have it handled|1 Yes Im an entrepreneur and so is my boyfriend Our sales completely halted but Im not letting that stop me My boyfriend and I are doing our best to work as hard as possible I dont have enough to pay rent either I live in California but thats ok In times like these you can become the rough around the diamond or the diamond in the rough Just keep your head up You cant control whats happening right now but you can control how to react React with kindness love and patience Things will get better|1 Yep|1 Its weird how all the people panicking four weeks ago predicted all this would be happening now|0 Dont blame you a bit|1 I guess the question is whether thats down to young people being genuinely less likely to die at this point possibly because of improved treatments compared to early in the outbreak or just taking longer to die like lisaeileises comment suggestsIt seems like wed be able to figure this out by looking at the Chinese data and seeing whether younger deaths were clustered earlier or later in the Wuhan outbreak but Im not sure where to find that|0 If the situation were reversed you would not hear any old people say Im not worried it only kills young people Thats a little harsh isnt it|0 Make a fantasy pandemic betting game with them where you put in money based on when you think health services will break down The one closest wins the prize pool That might make them reconsider their stance |1 In Austria for the school closures it is explicitely stated that no contact between grandparents and grandchildren should happen and in no way children should be sent to the grandparents in Germany Christian Drosten of the Charit lab suggested that grandchildren and grandparents should not get into any close contact until maybe september or octoberI fear people will not follow those advises|0 Yes the government have confirmed they wont be testing those who selfisolate with mild symptoms so we will see the percentage of positive detections continue to rise as tests are focussed on the most symptomatic Presuming that our ability to test is limited right now thats probably the only sensible way to play it and there does at least appear to have been a significant increase in the number of tests being carried out|1 Atlanta is where the CDC headquarters is located Good to have a local site to help work out any issues with how theyre doing it Undoubtedly theyll expand this further|1 Stop being fatalistic We arent doomed Chill out and stop panicking|0 I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE GLOBE PLEASE KNOW THAT And please please take care of yourself|1 you mean like the Chinese scientists and health experts that say some people that recover even from mild cases end up with permanent damage to Lungs Kidneys and testicles Yeah like them bub X|1 Im bit concerned about this Its like the medicine is worse than the disease|0 OP Did you read it This paper provides a descriptive historical account of vaccine development between 1998 and 2009 and does not have the ambition to forecast any trends Paper is specifically states its scope was 19982009 11 fucking years ago and has no ambitions to forecast anything further OP full of shit FIND A PERTINENT RESEARCH PAPER|0 I know little about him but HE is exactly what WE need right now That was heroic compared to the gibberish we are so used to I think I have a little crush on him and I am not even gay swear to god|1 The flu has an r0 of 13 meaning on average Apparently thats the ANNUAL average During flu season the flu apparently has an R0 of more like 25 As it gets warmer that drops to below 1It looks like Covid is less infectious when you look at the secondary attack rate how many people in your household you infect though contact perhaps 1015 vs 30 for the flu|0 Lets wait to see where it goes before cheering on one of the elite|1 Please expand|1 didnt nbc have an article saying professionals predict its already infected 1 of ohioans which is 117000 people|0 This made me laugh|1 Youre right Ive been made fun of for my opinions so I guess Im taking it out on them for it|1 Thanks for sharing this Looks like anything within 2 seats and rows is considered close contact I guess overall likelihood is still low vs contracting from social gatherings and family but travel is no joke either|1 You can make baked goods a little more delicious with powdered milk and you can for sure donate it It also freezes well|1 just wait until the giant warriors are defeated that scorch this earth the groundthe jungle will take back wjat its owed starting with tiny litttle spores|0 I feel your frustration Are your parents still honoring the 14day thing or what Will you stay away from them|1 Wish you the best of luck Hopefully you will be one of the people with mild symptoms Then again you and your friend could just be infected with a regular cold virus Its not like cold viruses have all stopped circulating because this one is Take care of yourself and seek medical treatment if necessary|1 Are they testing completely healthy people|1 I am in that school of thought If I need to get treated because I am super ill then yes Ill go Otherwise I am part of the problem|0 What a ridiculous thing to say China has a couple big cities with bad pollution but the vast majority of the country has no worse pollution than anywhere else|0 Because theyre in a panic|0 Terrifying and inspiring These people are wonders|0 thanks And also younger people should remember that death rates are literally 10x higher with COVID19 vs the seasonal flu even among the young The absolute risk is pretty low approx 2 deaths out of every 1000 people with COVID19 in people 2040 but its not zero stay safe out there|0 Its OK I appreciate your defense though Its tough times out there and everyone is a little on edge|1 If you can get them in close proximity with each other they work better|1 Isnt this the case with the Abels too Scary stuff if this strain is somehow staying in the system longer|0 Huh Interesting Guess its just habit and well Im new to reddit Am I not supposed to do thatBFi|1 I love this lady|1 Masks have been proven to provide benefits of up to 40 less contraction of Covid19Its all about shaming those that were sounding the alarm of common sense plus keeping the economic ponzi scheme rolling for a couple of more weeks |1 Morons|0 Dont forget the booze|1 Round 2 Fight|0 Im getting fat and taking fish oil Storing calories and decreasing inflammation so I can feed the people I care about and work as long as I can We are in the Fourth Turning i pray for nation and for our brothers and sisters in China Korea and Japan|1 Thats something that doesnt make any sense to me especially if it ends up being true What good is the stock market if a chunk of your investors die within a few weeksmonths|1 Grandfather Nurgle approves|1 What happend in china shouldve been an example to learn from yet many other countries still chose to follow what china did during the containment phase And thats just plain stupid|0 I thought that US people had a secret fantasy of having to fend for themselves with a weapon in the face of the collapse of the world Distrust of the federal government the myth of the far west I was wrong What I read there is really confusing I knew that you could be forced to mortgage your house in the event of cancer but not that you would end up in trouble for broken legs or pneumonia To be cured without being ruined should be a right in a large civilized country like the us Its more important than having the right to own a gun I hope things will change soon Edit sorry my grammar try to improve my english|0 so the infected could be way higher cus it takes time to get symptoms title should be 4 are symptomatic and infected|0 No because China has a strong military But what if it didnt And what if that got out What if all their troops were sick These are just hypothetical questions but theyre the type of questions that military leadership would ask|0 All we need is 1 sick guy to wait at the end of the race for this guy|0 FormattedSymptoms include879 Fever667 Dry Cough381 Fatigue334 Sputum production186 Shortness of breath148 Myalgia Muscle Pain or Arthralgia Joint Pain139 Sore throat136 Headache114 Chills50 Nausea or vomiting48 Nasal congestion37 Diarrhea09 Hemoptysis Coughing up blood08 Conjunctival congestion|0 lol I just know looking through your post history theres no point in engaging with you As you are blatantly a grating selfish moron 1974 46 are you I hope you havnt got any issues with your heart or lungs mate You might be one of the people nature selects|0 Hello Percentage expert If there is a 3 death rate and there are two of us does that mean that there is a 6 chance of 1 of us dying|0 I think obesity is going to be a real problem in AmericaIt is and has been a real problem in the US for awhile but capitalists dont care MuricaAlso can you provide a source to this pic|0 This is what I was thinking I wonder who will be the first to help the people of Iran|1 Thanks for posting At what stage of the illness did the rash appear How long did it last Was it on the entire body|0 The more help that goes around to countries in need the better chance we all have at saving some lives and buying more time for vaccine development There should be nothing political about these generous acts regardless of how some people may try to twist this|1 Yeah like a smudge stick|1 no one outside of the USA rlly cares about the USA bro especially in Asia|1 Dining room is a generous way of describing it|1 This is how incorrect information spreads on the internet as fact You start with your conclusion of which its painfully obvious you start with you conclusion and vainly attempted to support it with a clusterfuck of thought and ended up providing nothing to back it up Do you think science is just using bold text You provide no evidence whatsoeverThe reason why there are colder drier surfaces is because there are colder drier conditions it has nothing to do with human behavior Cooler drier surfaces might keep the virus alive longerThere is no might its 20 times longer for influenzaIn the end its painfully obvious you started with the cute idea of Deeviant says other people are pushing incorrect evidence but Im going to prove its him that is doing it instead Too bad you didnt just decide to do something like Im going to try to sort out what is truth and share it with people That would have actually be useful|1 I dont have a dedicated GPU on my laptop Can I donate just CPU resources|0 Can confirm as well I live in Gilbert and shelves have been bare for over a week now Ive gone every day in hopes I can get stuff I need All the dog food is gone ended up having to order off Chewy Yesterday all the frozen veggies were gone|1 Its not that bad if you know the address and birthday|1 The catholic church still having incredible vocal platform all over the world could have used it to at least inform the public about the presence of COVID a month ago Recommend buying maskssanitizers hell actually hand them out before servicesOlder people at the highest risk of death from the virus will take the word of their priest rabbi imam guru or pastor over that of a doctor Instead the business of religion continued as normal hell it probably significantly improved because nothing brings people back to their religion like fear especially of the unknown|0 I work at Meijer and I sadly cant stay home|0 Are hikes really that bad If you are outside you are hardly going to come into contact with lots of people|0 I do both Otherwise you might miss things|0 The virus seems to survive on surfaces for a long time not far fetched that someone coughed into their hand and used money afterwards|1 Theres no proof that it hasnt|0 Youre right But the irony is too sweet to resist Sweet sweet irony|1 Congrats USA |1 Imagine having to defend this Perfect example of what should be happening already|1 Not political just a personal statement of presumed fact I am in Auz and have no political agenda |0 Are your coworkers glancing your way with anger now as they discuss it with each other Mine were last week Im completely understanding the dont kill the messenger saying now Like I created this just by warning about it almost 2 months ago Or maybe they think Im a witch LOL Some of them were still in denial in Friday the media is causing all these closings Its no worse than the flu Today should be INTERESTING Almost looking forward to going to work lol|1 Russians are a bunch of badass homies vibing with vodka|0 I am against overbuying to sell and price gouge but a lot of this is also the lazy or uninformed who just thought of this yesterday and wonder why there is difficulty getting certain items|0 Its also worth noting that the IFR is particularly hard to work out for this disease since a huge number of people particularly young people present with with very mild symptoms or none at all So that means that an unusual number of infections are missed and discrepancy between the true number of infected and the officially recorded cases is probably larger than we might find for some other illnesses|0 Cant argue with that|1 Im so ashamed of my generation|0 But they probably wouldnt want to be at work|0 Lol didnt realise US had a strategy theyre far more fucked then we are|0 Why dont you suspend your flights to Thailand BKK is 1 most visited destination in the world Ppl come here not so much the opposite|1 Send and email and tell them you are not coming in to protect your health and saftey Thats what I did my job is not worth my life Im young but have poor lung function so am at very high risk|0 Happy cake day|1 I started working partially from home and stocking up food 2 weeks ago and fully home last Monday because based on what were seeing in China Iran and Italy were at the SHTF state already2 weeks ago people were laughing 1 week ago they were still laughing Hoax virus Its just flu Doomsayer why you so panic stop overreacting Its a conspiracy theory made by the RussiansChinaTrumpObamaIranIlluminatiExcuse me I read the actual medical journal publications and not some anti vaxxer conspiracy theory websites I work in biochem data analyst If the patterns from other countries repeat in the US this week Costco etc will be out of stock Next two weeks a good scenario is well be like Italy 2 weeks ago If theres no quarantine no tests I dont know I just hope we wont be like Iran I hope hope hope hope the patterns Im seeing wont repeat in the US I hope our healthcare is good enough it can tackle this thing I hope Im wrong and the next two weeks somehow the US is safe I hope the next month I can look back and laugh at how I was just overreacting I hope the next 2 months I will be the end of every joke in my workplace as that hypochondriac person totally would rather have this than the alternativeStay safe and wash hand like your life depends on it people|0 He must be suffering diarrhea lately|0 The China travel ban helps although I wish it came into place earlier with less advanced warning I would like to see travel ban on Japan as well given their unwillingness to ban ChinasThis along with proactive measures like this will make a big difference As the cdc pointed out containment of this highly contagious virus is impossible in the long term The goal is to limit the number of infected in the us to a few hundreds by the time a vaccine becomes commercially available When all is said and done China will likely see tens of millions infected and a death count on par with worldwide casualty from the Spanish dlu|0 That number seems wrong They are at 1100 casesSee also the progressionhttpstwittercomhenrikenderleinstatus1236748772455170049The only difference is less deaths and I suspect no source for it its because not everyone that dies tested positive is considered a death by coronavirus|0 The EU travel ban doesnt apply to citizens from EU or EEA countries Iceland is an EEA country However most EU countries have now closed their borders to everybody who doesnt have a valid reason to enter|0 Dude I had to bite my tongue so hard when my classmates brought it up today I know forsure the only reason they are talking about it is because its now confirmed in Ohio and schools have switched to online classes Before today they all knew absolutely nothing of the virus and im sure they didnt care about it eitherThe amount of stupid fucking assumptions and statements made about the virus and the situation we are in was laughable I stopped talking after inserting a couple comments and just prayed they would stop talking about it soon because they seriously dont know what they are talking about I have NEVER been one to care about ANYTHING going on in the world and man does it feel good to be more in the know for something like this|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfeqtuqevergreenhospitalceasingallcovid19testsfjrva72context3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I also remember hearing when people FIRST started discussing this in January that there was some disease lab 5 blocks away from the fish market Then once all the media outlets picked it up thats never mentioned anymore At least in the US|0 Stuck in their rooms with only an hour of deck time a day or every other day|0 I gotta ask how bad was it how long did it take to develop bad symptoms and how long until it cleared up completely|0 Im pretty sure that all of these cancer drugs 4 out of top 5 are highly toxic and would probably kill a COVID patient fasterYeah thats what I expected Stuff so strong that it would kill pretty much anything you threw it atincluding you Not much a model It doesnt look like theyve managed to come across a cluster of drugs with a common mechanism that could help guide researchThe inclusion of that Benzodiazepine is interesting though Anybody know why that could help at least theoretically|1 Lmao offered the Palestinians to come in If anyone is going to rape and murder you its gonna be us Like come on|0 Thats true but I have to say the media really is pushing this whole thing And if they are out of tests sht goes down because people that are actually infected cant get tested In my humble opinion those 40 tests are wasted PS Germany and its government doesnt really work under such special conditions it usually never does if things get lemme say heated|0 True and this is sad The Stand was a book about a true worldending pandemic not just for us but dogs horses and many other species and the government seemed more prepared than what we are seeing now Is real life truly this imperfect|1 Well spoken doctor|1 Agreed People should read this BBC article httpswwwbbccouknewsscienceenvironment51874084httpswwwbbccouknewsscienceenvironment51874084|1 good cruises are not necessary and pollute immensely anyways|1 My head is reeling from the info about his grandfather dying from the flu On Friday he was saying he did not know people died from the flu|0 I do agree but in the world of capitalism if you are mr mask warehouse youd be stupid to not take advantage of this and up your prices Supply and demand at the end of the dayBut yes it is extortion and price gorging|0 Pasta doesnt require yeast but pizza does so I also have itDidnt think about the powdered eggs but definitely something to keep in mind together with powdered milk|1 Its still likely not that high Italy numbers are perverted by lack of testing infrastructure catching mild cases Its important we try to both not overstate and understate things and be aware of how imperfect so much of the data we have is|0 So unless in the US also it was just a fluI fail to see how CNN drew the line|0 Google Stadia rolling in their graves since they cant cash in on this|0 Im saying the conspiracy theory that Trump is purposefully exposing people that are disproportionately Trump voters to harm through denying access to care wrt a disease that could infect the whole nation just to cut medical costs would be an incredibly stupid shoot yourself in the foot form of evil|0 God i live like 15 minutes from seattle|1 thank you i dont know why people arent getting that if you dont fit the profile of recently traveling from china you arent getting tested if you are lucky they might ask about your contacts|1 Its because they know damned well there are far far more than 20 cases and because it spreads logarithmically And also because history teaches us that if you practice extreme social distancing early enough you can save literally thousands of lives|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfefly4opinionmostpeoplewonttakecovid19seriouslyfjq3ppucontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 This is some major bullshit Are there any city county state officials who could help I will totally help you if you DM|1 Whats wrong with you|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Earths atmosphere only 80 infected with airborne virus remaining 20 to be rationed to those still breathing|0 Seattle University just cancelled classes too|0 The average person outside Asia is currently at least a million times more likely to have the flu than 2019nCov You know what will make this virus really deadly Panic Hospitals full of people at the first sign of any respiratory infection preventing those who genuinely need medical care from receiving it If the numbers start to go up significantly outside China then yes we should be more concerned Until then though and until we know the true mortality rate as well we should be as equally concerned with scaremongering as we are at a failure to preparePS I wish people would selfisolate whenever they were sick too A couple of weeks sick leave should be mandatory worldwide by now if we are serious about keeping future outbreaks under control|0 He hid his symptoms He might not even known If its just a cough and he doesnt have a thermometer its hard to tell if you have low grade fevers|0 Hey what about us here in Atlanta we have the busiest airport Dont we get to win too|1 1 in 10 infected|0 The division 3 is certainly something|1 ITS JUST THE FLU as if the flu doesnt already kill a lot of healthy people every year I find it to be very serious but not kills 13 of the population serious|1 What kind of sick twisted mind does it take to come up with such a genius plan|0 This is what Ive been saying for days now There are many reasons for not testing and they all benefit the government|1 And it was entertaining the whole way I already stocked up on food and ammo and theyre bitching at everyone they told its just the flu about hoarding supplies cuz they cant get none Gotta love it|0 A potential outcome At this rate with more events getting canceled who are these celebrities going to perform for empty seats|0 Herd immunity is dependent on the characteristics of the virus and what you realistically want to achieve as a matter of public health policyFor something like measles where we have an expectation of few to no new cases yeah we like to see 90 vaccination rates Lately a lot of places in the world havent been hitting those vaccination targets and we do see a few more limited outbreaks than wed like But nothing that cannot be easily contained|1 Are you 12 If no one owned more than 1 house there would not be any houses available to rentThey signed the contract to make the monthly payment Same as i did Jesus what is with these reddit children commenting on a subject they obviously know NOTHING about|0 Yup and we will pay for that attitude|0 Only 16 deceased out of that many infected Wonder how many people have died from it that were never tested|0 i work in nyc and while the city is not shut down yet as of last week the city was a ghost town id estimate there are about 15 percent of the people that you normally see that was last week and since friday ive been working from home so i can only assume more people are working from home as well So while the city hasnt declared a shut down the people who work in NYC and in the area are taking it very seriously and staying home if theyre able to the numbers will continue to increase as we are only testing now but i can assure you a lot of people in NY are taking this very seriously and i like to think that will go a long way|1 If we dont die|1 Thing Ill never understand is why someone with anxiety over things like this is even touching the subredditsunfortunate wording I know Theyre scaring themselves completely someone said they were going to stay up till 6am and eat like a pig because they think theyre going to die when the virus has barely even touched his country|0 I am with you on all points Amy Acton his medical advisor is the best Ive seenI would marry her so hard|1 Yes I am also incredibly bitter Suddenly we have the ability to house the homeless Fuck people for ever blocking measures in the past to achieve this Obviously we had the ability all along|0 Its also relative to base right People from warmer climates feel the cold more even in the summer in a colder climate So if you think that applies based on VitD too do people in warmer climates have a higher background level thus need more|1 Plague of JustinianThe Plague of Justinian 541542 AD was a pandemic that afflicted the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire and especially its capital Constantinople as well as the Sasanian Empire and port cities around the entire Mediterranean Sea as merchant ships harbored rats that carried fleas infected with plague Some historians believe the plague of Justinian was one of the deadliest pandemics in history resulting in the deaths of an estimated 2550 million people during two centuries of recurrence a death toll equivalent to 1326 of the worlds population at the time of the first outbreak Recent research however has raised questions as to the plagues actual demographic effects The plagues social and cultural impact has been compared to that of the similar Black Death that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages 600 years after the last outbreak of Justinians plagueIn 2013 researchers confirmed earlier speculation that the cause of the Plague of Justinian was Yersinia pestis the same bacterium responsible for Black Plague 13471351 PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Yay my blood pressure can go down now|1 This is actually a really decent post with good advice Wish more medical professionals were as informed as this one|1 I suspect the numbers would rise next week as many are returning home from China for CNY|0 Hahaha|1 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 I actually would like hand sanitizer or wipes for when I go out to get food or to the doctor Its hard to wash hands in the middle of grocery shopping when you have an itchy eye or something Also if I go out and touch doorknobs and shopping carts I will also touch my purse credit cards etc when I go to pay for things I would prefer to sanitize so I dont infect my stuff That may sound paranoid but at least Im not panic buying and hoarding I just want one or two bottles|1 Are people able to get tested privately Sorry if its a stupid question|0 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I hope so Watching what is happening everywhere is disturbing|0 Please let us know your story as it unfolds|1 Simply putIm an ER RN and I put on those cheap surgical masks when anyone is placed into droplet precautions due to respiratory illnesses I use it to protect myself what I have always been taught I would wear a mask if accessible if I was going out to high risk area So Im not quite sure why healthy people wearing masks is being spun off as bad and ineffectiveNOW that being said us healthcare people are going to be facing detrimental shortages of essential supplies So help us out by staying home and decreasing need for masks as much as possible|0 Someone is finally demanding answers Its a relief Sorry for the quarantined but maybe keeping them in one spot is the best course of action for all those involved|1 About a month ago I bought a 32oz bag of walnuts and a 15oz bottle of ghost pepper powder I started snacking on them as often as I can For a total outlay of 15 its been an extremely effective tool for preventing me from touching my face The only real side effect is having to wash my hands before I go to the bathroom as well as after|1 Keep in mind some of these are related to influenza but the premise is the same masks are effective for collecting droplets from coughs sneezing breathing and can help reduce transmission when in close contact with othersMost guidelines recommend masks for infections spread by droplets N95 respirators as airborne precautions provide superior protection for droplettransmitted infectionshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5705692Face masks are used more commonly for respiratory viruses that spread via droplets which travel short distances and are transmitted by cough or sneezehttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762694If such symptomatic persons cannot stay home during the acute phase of their illness consideration should be given to having them wear a mask in public places when they may have close contact with other personshttpswwwcdcgovfluprofessionalsinfectioncontrolmaskguidancehtmSurgical masks worn by patients reduce aerosols shedding of virushttpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1003205|1 Hes agreeing with you yes|1 Knowing about it is better than not so you can suggest it to your doctor but if they have it and will give it too you is ultimately their decision but you can encourage|1 I 100 agree with this Problem is with the politics the way they are today if Trump closed travel temporarily people would lose their damn minds and they would go nuts at everyone who agrees with it calling them xenophobic murdering hitlers Then some Hawaiian judge would rule it unconstitutional and it would be undone for weeks or months letting the virus in anywaysIf Obama was still president and closed travel temporarily people would applaud it as such a difficult but wise decision|0 Per another commenter try this and see if theyll do itIts the University of Washington that is testing They are unofficial tests But UW is cranking out a few thousand a day Anyone can send tests to UW too so tell your doctor if they are refusing a test because of CDC guidelines that UW will test the sample even if you are out of statehttpstestguidelabmeduwedupublicviewNCVQLT|0 All airlines are acting as disease carriers Shut em down Close the border Forget the economy|0 Its not good for your business model if your 11k product is replaced by a cheap 3D printed part|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 They probably created their policies based on statistics and costefficiency calculations1 by applying such policies they gain time They can stock test kits and medicines Getting prepared and letting it go2 seems like most of the infected people do not and will not have serious symptoms And most of them are going to recover with or without treatment3 they might also be thinking that new covid tests are not precise enough and considering testing someone is going to be a waste of money4 they governments states organisations institutions corporations scientists rich people etc must have much more information than we have and we know5 they might be not really giving a fuck BUT I am still really and really surprised that wealthy states like US apply such policies Because with such amount of wealth and expertise they can easily produce enpugh number of test kits can easily apply more preventive measures can easily fund researchersWe are living in a pretty interesting historical period We have best communication tools of all the time yet we do not really know shitI only hope that most of these politicians rich people and other high profile key actors are not sociopaths like statistics tell us Otherwise you know what is going to happen|1 I would have refused without the same level of protection Just look at the poor guys face he knows hes screwed|0 I have ADHD too I got a bike trainer for my bike a couple years ago and just started using it more recently That and running are how I keep my routine going Its important to keep that goingThe rADHD subreddit is great too Its om We can get through this|1 Why are there so many comments on that thread about him being a paedophile What is wrong with people|0 That is crazy|0 I live in Austin Went to a work meeting today and one of my coworkers had a coughing fit and had to leave the conference room We could hear her in the hall coughing for the next ten minutes Needless to say I will be working from home and not attending any meetings or going to any stores moving forward especially with SXSW starting next week its going to be a total dumpster fire|0 Infection depends on viral load and a large space means substantial dilution China and US data show that attack rates on household members were only 1015|0 Did I say that Or did I say characterizing it as worse than the Spanish flu was misleading After all that was a mere 50 million deaths right I certainly didnt say the common flu was worse and if I did way back in the timeline which Im not sure even happened it was before it started spreading like wildfire here in the states I lived the 911 attacks I was there I suffered PTSD that took years to move past It was the first time in my lifetime and many others that we realized we could get hit with a devastating attack on our own home soil But sure by all means minimize that and make stupid claims about me|0 Fuck capitalism so much|0 I wish I could but if I call into work with anything but a positive Corona virus test result Im putting my employment in jeopardy And its nearly impossible to get a testLike millions of other Americans I have to work until I get sick and even then Ill probably have to keep working|0 Thats great news glad theyre listening to the experts|1 I had that when I was 10ish fuck whooping cough I had it so I would start choking the only way to stop chocking was to calm down and wait for it to pass Maybe after this outbreak we can get our health system in check Doubt it but everyone will be focused on our healthcare system maybe its time for the left and right to stop fighting and actually talk about what kind of system we need No instead we will just keep getting onen liners and wow did you hear what x said to y|0 42 deaths as of now Remember some deaths will never be tested and are hidden anyway It can also take longer to die than how long it takes to show symptoms So youre estimate is definitely off The Journal of the American Medical Association did a study with the Chinese CDC where they traced infections backwards with interviews They came up with 36 to 6 fatality in the Hubei region 05 in the rest The key problem with this virus is it spreads so fast that you are eventually overwhelmed with critical patients Then the death rate sky rockets I think its quite likely this causes the same permanent lung damage as SARS too With reports from China showing cases of it and their same mechanism of action I dont see how notThe State of Ohio is sending absolutely every employee home to telecommute it can The Continuity of Operations pandemic plan is in effect Services will be reduced Regulations will take a backseat Some agencies are making essential employees work from home as well They arent going back in starting Monday DeWine would never in a million years do this and close schools if we werent heading fast towards a lock down They expect this to last 3 weeks to 2 months If were lucky|0 Massive respect for the hard work Please stay safe everyone|1 Pigs taste better than dogsI know from experience|1 Ah man hang in there I was in for a minor surgery two weeks ago and I have to go back tomorrow for the usual twoweekspostop makesureeverythingishealingwell ordeal tomorrow and am dreading even that|0 Quick update to this thread for everyone reading THIS is what needs to happen in Houston we need Whistleblowers like this incredible SheriffRead this httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfil7igimsorryiffeelingsarehurtbutpeopleneedWE NEED TO KNOW HOUSTON NEEDS TO KNOW ALL OF TEXAS NEEDS TO KNOW ALL OF AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW This hiding of information needs to stop Immediately Its putting all of our lives in danger Including YOU reading this and everyone in your family |0 There isnt one Im almost positive its still 87|1 The elderly and most vunrable people in society are going to suffer if people hordex200Bhttpsikymcdncomentriesiconsfacebook000018774c54650b7278f88a3eeaa7aa7d5fce4f7jpghttpsikymcdncomentriesiconsfacebook000018774c54650b7278f88a3eeaa7aa7d5fce4f7jpg|0 He didnt look old or to have an immune compromise|1 Right How do you think single parents or families with both parents working will fair when both parents are sick with convid19 and maybe even need hospitalization Three short msitedness of the decisions being made Im looking at you Governor Brown are fucking enraging|0 Redditors on rWuhanFlu which is quarantined would love to see the first hand accounts from Italy you have to type in the actual name in the search bar because they are quarantined but members like real data Also rBannedfromcoronavirus is a place that would want to see first hand accounts from Italy as well|1 Thailand has done well too Ive heard Also is India not seeing any inflitration of the virus|1 Hardly panic mode The RIVM investigated the person claiming to have traveled through the Netherlands and found that to be false as the flight he was on was direct from China to France|0 National emergency declared then as it gets worse and strikes and riots start Martial law declared and as trump sees his poll numbers tank below 30 and whoops November elections delayed until further notice|0 Are they free to use Creative commons or similar licenseEDIT Seriously why are people downvoting me for asking for clarification when the artist says it would be fine for people to steal the images|1 Meanwhile theres thousands of students outside my college right now celebrating stpattys|1 Its better to have the option of buying food at 100 than not have any food available to buy at all At one point you would beg for the option to buy it at that price You just arent desperate enough yet and someone else is|1 Salvadoran here great summary and glad to here the country is taking proactive measures|1 Send in Chinese needle snakes to eat them followed by snakeeating gorillas which will simply freeze to death when wintertime rolls around|0 I think theyre also assuming that a portion of people never present symptoms but still are contagious|0 Which has mandatory attendance|1 If the option for a patient in need is nothing or a simple bag pumping air is it better than nothing Or would it be the equivalent of a butterfly band aid on a wound needing a hundred stitchesOr do you know if maybe it would be acceptable for some patients even if not all|1 if it says Ive already been exposed then I will offer my help wherever its needed without fearSo Im guessing you havent read reports of recovered patients becoming reinfected|1 I mean even Macau is stopping schools and for god sake If they can do it why cant HK Its just stupidity at this pointErrr school has been suspended in HK for additional weeks|0 I hope she never gets a job again Shes going to probably kill countless people|0 Why would they take that risk if there is little increase in demand or prices because the government controls medicine and simply doesnt purchase more stuff Thats what the company is talking about We can increase the supply but we havent been asked there is no change in demand|0 And cancer and heart disease and etc and etc and etc and|0 What the fuck did i just watch One fuck face after another jeez If I was a customer or stock hokder this would make me feel way less secure about the situation|0 That stable genius at work again|1 We need new and better tools for testing|1 She looks lovely and this is a meritorious endeavor I do hope that if she delivers into the home that she removes her shoes before entering and washes her hands and wipes stuff down Otherwise this darling woman could turn into the Angel of Death|1 Leave it to Japan|0 Need something to clean the shit off of the fan|1 Isnt that the truth Although with how hysterical people are I probably could have coughed and got it anyways|0 They said nothing even close to that Thats your own words Nothing in life is black and white Things usually have many causes Many times the factors alone would not cause the outcome but put together they are the perfect stormA man displaying symptoms of hypochondria misinformation and doomsday thinking whatever other live factors gives us this Without the misinformation and fear mongering he would probably be here He would probably still be convinced he had coronavirus but he may have been able to hold off until getting tested|0 I stand corrected Youve just become an honorary citizen then|1 This supports the hypothesis I have had since I saw the conspicuous absence of pediatric cases in the Chinese CDC data I have been saying for weeks now We need to get a better handle on the iceberg of cases underneath What if AT LEAST 59 of all cases are unascertained This article drom Chinese Epidemiologists discusses this and notes Estimation of unascertained cases has important implications on continuing surveillance and interventions httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1I also go back to children and what is their role if any in transmission They are conspicuously absent from the China data but are they absent from the pandemic Bruce Aylward with the WHO team that went to China said Weve got to get an antibody test to test the population for antibodies to the virus to know if kids are driving the epidemic and we just cant see it The are the least impacted as a part of the population in terms of sequelae How large is the burden of cases Burden has to be modeled CDC does this with Influenza httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtmlWithout effective serology tests we are in the dark The limitations of RT PCR diagnostic testing have been illustratedI am still wondering why we do not have serology tests when Singapore does and has even used them for cluster investigations I hope they are attempting to use them to figure out burden questionsSerology essentially looking at antibodies instead of for the actual organism RT PCR can begin to tell us what percentage of the population has been exposed to the virus Serology can point to the burden An extremely large burden means that a large number of individuals likely were infected but had no need to seek medical care Some could have been asymptomatic That is why i focus in on the conspicuously absent children in all categories of disease True CFR and hospitalization rates are a function of the total number of people infected NOT just those symptomatic diagnosed and reported|0 To be honest your title doesnt make sense since if people get sick the stock market would lower even more drastically|0 Congrats you survived the virus youre now all unemployed and there is no one producing food and you get to fight each other for scraps|1 Numbers dont have to be right Can only report cases you test for Only test if theyre critical which is dumb because knowing they have it when theyre in critical does nothing meanwhile we dont test the people who are out living their day to day lives with it and spreading it because theyre not in critical condition|0 Its not just about money its about control Therell always be too many people in the city and downstate that simply drown out the voices up here City issues and Upstate issues arent the same and they require different approaches|0 I need to be able to tell my boss that I would be arrested and sent home by the police if I tried to come in maybe that will get it through their fucking heads|0 Agreed Once this is all over I hope people start questioning a lot about working conditions health service funding etc|1 The virus seems to be extremely sensitive to alchohols and especially ethanol Even 30 ethanol is enough to kill 100 of the viral particles That is very good news|0 You need both not one or the other If youre doing both youd ideally start with Pneumovax titer 2 weeks later and then Prevnar 6 months after that|1 Daily podcast from an expert in the field Ill learn German for that|0 Most people are 1 major health emergency away from serious debt in this country I say this myself with having socalled good insurance with only a 2500 deductible lol Im thousands in debt from breaking my foot last summer and at the point that I really cant afford to see a doctor or dentist for even preventative care at this point Not a good place to be in at worst if this were to be an epidemic scenario it could lead to serious social economic collapse So much debt already So many people unable to pay for their healthcare already which leads to people avoiding treatment People trample each other over crappy sale TVs on black friday I cant imagine how it would be if or when wed be in a scenario where theres shortages of care food etc|0 Ie Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others|0 Germany isnt doing anything and I dont understand why Theyre normally so cautious|0 At least in America we dont murder 80 year olds and over like Italy is planning to shameful|1 Yes not official but widely used Tier 1 is Beijing Shanghai Guangzhou and Shenzhen|1 i gotta tell u bro it seems like u just dodged a bullet|1 I cant boycott health insurance much more easily than I can boycott paying rent While its technically possible the cost to me would be felt much more keenly than the cost to the insurance company|1 Yeah Im self isolating and have been for weeks now I have no plans to go out into the world for a very long time No protesting from me lol Im avoiding all contact with anyone|0 The CPP government is good at this kind of military like control There would not be epidemic globally Btw all cities have postponed the back to work date for another week Check the news|1 I work at that UCDMC all the time testing the airflow and room pressures of critical rooms including negative isolation rooms Im scheduled to be there for a few weeks Going to be terrifying|0 I dont ever remember people collapsing on the street due to SARS|0 Thanks for the thoughtful response To your first point uScyllarious has been keeping the daytoday statistics that the government isnt showing us His latest is here httpswwwredditcomrCanadaCoronaviruscommentsfjupls172positivecases5casesresolved1537casesand it should have the info about tests per day you are looking for Additionally he posts the info once a day in the evening ESTI know it seems hard to believe and not many countries have seen declines this early in their outbreaks but it has happened 1000 tests negative since yesterday evening 8 positive Maybe the elimination of travelers from their testing criteria has knocked down the positive rate but this should be fine since everyone should be selfisolating for 14 days when they return to Canada hopefully this becomes mandatory but still It is hard to get a grasp on their exact testing criteria but I think it has in general been more sensible than what they are saying out loud notice how quickly we caught travelers from the Iran especiallyItalyUS If they are testing for symptoms only you are right that it is a shot in the dark but as long as it remains a shot in the dark I think that is good news since it means it is not widely spreading in the community even though it means community spread is nonzeroEven SKSingaporeJapan haventcant find all the cases but they can keep it to to background level infections only even as they keep the country open and operating I am cautiously optimistic that Canada can move in that direction following this initial period of closures perhaps for the next month Even if that light exists at the end of the tunnel though we must all isolate for the next month at least|1 You are blaming the CDC for a virus that spreads like the wind Do you see any other country stopping this virus at the moment If the entire world had cancelled all flights between all countries in January maybe this wouldnt have spread But countries do not move that quickly The CDC had an issue with the first batch of tests they acknowledged that But testing is going to ramp up very quickly in the coming weeks and that logically means so will the number of confirmed and reported cases You can moan about the CDC or you can spend your time figuring out how to reduce your own exposure and protect your own family|0 Asian countries have the experience of SARS authoritarian governments compliant populations limited freedom of movement This allows them to rapidly implement draconian measures and maintain them indefinitely European countries are not in the same situation as the evidence of how unprepared Italy was demonstrates and the fear is that other European countries strategy of going hard quickly could produce the blue line which is an overall worse outcome than the yellow line It could be even worse than the blue line in Europe if that approach leads to fighting endless outbreaks one region at a time until a vaccine is discovered and distributed while the UK strategy even with a temporary herd immunity could theoretically lead to ongoing relatively low levels of infection instead of major outbreaks because there would be not enough nonimmune people for a serous outbreak meaning the health system would be able to manage the serious cases|0 Great answer|1 oh no Please dont screamThe real threat is panic and deafness|0 Why do people use their completely asinine anecdotal evidence and compare it to this virus Its literally two completely different things The large majority of people that contract this virus will be fine with bed rest fever reducers and water We do not need these people panicking and running to the hospital creating large waits for the patients that are actually at risk of serious complications|0 Your comment was misleading There were plenty of masks to be had You just ordered and then waited two months before doing anything about it|0 I said we were doing more than Canada but should do more You then selectively quoted what I wrote Are you kidding meThe US has over twice as many known cases as Canada does and a couple hundred suspected cases that were taking our sweet time to test Whatever more you think were doing it hasnt been successfulA couple thousand cases if you count the New Jersey cruise ship passengers we just welcomedBoth countries are rolling out red carpets for the disease and if you cant understand that I guess you should continue to blather about wokeness elsewhere and let the adults talk here|1 wowi very appreciate what you said As a Chinese Im surprised at your knowledge of Chinayeahow right you are living on the same earth in the face of a global catastrophe we should trust each other and take our hands to tide over the difficulties right hope for a peaceful world LOVE from China a high school student |1 Its 3 to 6 weeks in ICU for 15 of the infected|0 Yes they are And its following the same path it did with Ebola Looks good in tests and once human trials begin it falls flat|1 I had this realization tonight as I was chatting with my wife about a new Lancet study about CFR by age group She looked at me like a crazy person What was I even talking aboutI have experienced this with my husband too Ive explained that it is fascinating to study all aspects of a potential pandemic from the economic impacts to local responses Hes likeuh okayHave to admit that I have quite a few books on the black death so this isnt a new interest in epidemic illness|0 There is a portion of people who do NOT know how to handle anxiety in a healthy way and their only coping strategy is denial They get annoyed with others for panicking both because they dont actually have experience with the existence of an emotional state between denial and panic so they categorize any state of action as panic and because any reminder of the possibility of an actual problem fucks with their ability to maintain their delusions As it begins requiring more and more effort to remain ignorant the denial behavior often morphs into ridicule so that they can seek validation from others in an attempt to feel more secureWhen things reach a critical tipping point though where the issue can no longer be denied they have zero healthy ways to handle their emotions and are also probably actually underprepared adding to their sense of panic|0 china Btw guys maybe you should like deal with itIran Fuck why didnt you tell us soonerUk Nah cant be that badItaly Its just the flu broUS FAKE NEWS|0 We have extra house shoes People wear socks usually but we wash the shoes And yes ALL contractors should bring their own disposable shoe covers Nobody should be walking into someones home with work boots on|1 If there isnt a shut down people will continue to compare this to the flu Shut it the fuck down|0 Plus the whole doomsday scare in 2012 The world seems to go mental every 4 years like a shitty olympics|0 For a large space the usual method is to build a UVC purifier into the HVAC system so the air passes through UVC light as its recirculated through the building There are UVC lamps that are sometimes placed over lab benches but Ive never heard of putting them in the ceiling you want the UVC source very close to the air or surface you want to disinfect|1 Most people wouldnt follow it they would likely want one for themselves regardless if it means some health workers dont have one|1 Help with what More info re the virus WHO and CDC already said that if you are healthy you will get mild symptoms like cough fever or cold But if you already have underlying health conditions then consult your doctor Read WHO CDC and other health agencies news or broadcast this is not a very deadly virus most survive You need help in understanding this pandemic|1 This is an unfortunate outcome of people confusing a diseases case fatality rate CFR and a mortality rate By people that would appear to include the World Health Organization which used this apparent finding as the cornerstone of their presentation today Im frustrated because at best they should know better at worst theyre deliberately misconstruing data to suggest less of a risk than there is|0 Less airlines less tickets same level of demand for flights higher prices I dont think this is something to celebrate from a customer perspective The current decline in business isnt facilitated by the natural way of the economy or human development its caused by an extraordinarily external force Airplanes airlines arent even close to becoming obsolete The more businesses fizz out of existence the higher your prices will get Not to mention millions of lay offs My friend has a parent in the travel industry and shes working for 25 her normal pay and only 4 days a week bc theyre in a severe decline I dont think we should bail a company out every fucking time but a loan or something should suffice in extraordinary circumstances I dont get how youre celebrating this situation cant be reduced down to rich people losing money|1 I may know where you got that link from One thing that I should mention though is that you will notice that there is a several week delay in reporting information for that chartEdited to add that I am not trying to rain on anyones parade Hoping for the best so I can get back to the things in life that I enjoy|1 Yup I agree 1000 my roommates and I have stayed in all weekend I took lead and had them shop and take precautions weeks ago Today bars and restaurants were closed in Chicago and multiple people who were out partying all weekend are worried because theyre broke and work in the those industries I want to call them out but at the same time I dont want to argue with dumb people|0 On the other hand Doesnt this indicate the death rate is much lower|0 Acute eosinophilic pneumonia caused by camostat mesilate The first case reporthttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4925915Recently druginduced lung injuries have been increasing as various drugs developed and such clinical conditions are diverse However camostat mesilate and its analogous drugs serine protease inhibitors have rarely caused lung injury The mechanism of pathogenesis is broadly divided into two categories ie toxic reaction and allergic reaction 1httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4925915bib1 2httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4925915bib2 The present case was thought to be allergic reaction|0 Get off this subreddit if you dont care or think its a big deal lady What are you even doing here You posted rude shit on one of my other posts too|0 Its the worst Even if I dont get it what is the world going to look like in two weeks or two months No one knows but well all find out together As a justripthebandageoff kind of person this is excruciating|0 This sounds like the premise for a horror movie|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Great post These are some very good and at times overlooked points Though there is an assumption here that pretty much all ability to contain the virus would fail creating a situation where all of those people would be affected at once Even with minor amounts of quarantine its unlikely IMHO that hundreds of millions get this virus all at once|1 How about we do something though besides prep and hide We all have known for weeks that this was inevitable and just commented about it on reddit and looked after ourselvesWe should be protesting against this dumpster fire of a response in the streets and possibly infect each other at this point and then the movement will dieNM like going back to my bunker AKA my couch|0 This is just so very very sad Im not sure whats really going on there though the prospect of more cases in this vulnerable elderly group is depressingSay what you will about statistical death rates and how some of these had other health conditions but the bottom line is this virus is literally killing people in the US|0 I pulled my 6yo out last week and kept my 16yo home starting today Our schools are closing starting end of this week though Im glad I kept my younger one at home before the closing Im in WA and its just too close to home already|1 ty for saying this please consider voting across party lines for all of our sakes come november and stay safe |1 Exactly this is barely three months in and those in poor health succumbed the quickest They have no idea what this looks like long term|0 Is there no possibility that most of the world already had corona virus Or its been exist and we just now found out|0 I believe they want to ensure theyre front of the queue and charge others for the use of it|1 I know some people would rather get the coronavirus than catch cabin fever while self isolating it has the added effect of increased attention towards them|1 Sure I can add you on discord|0 Yes agreed Something about that|1 Meanwhile I get 34 paid days off by just calling in sick and until healed if its more serious and I have to see a doctor Sure my salary would probably be double or triple in the US but Im not sure my life would be any better|1 Im in these pics I look awful I knew they were dropping off supplies they had a whole section taped off|0 Ah yes heart attack and drinking soda very comparable|0 I dont get how people act so blind to this and put people down for being worried Its always better to be safe then sorry Schools are huge with bacteria sharing and once a person gets it unlesss they are very sanitary themselves which good for them its almost always going to spread there School is very important but you need your health to go to school|1 Your comment was removed as it is a low effort post Rule 10|0 Maybe she could have asked me first I edited the comment but were a family of many none of the siblings were asked to help out I for example work from home some days and also can help her on the weekends|1 This is what exponentially means stay safe Reddit|1 Im in America as well and I went out for some additional stockpile supplies this morning before sunrise My local wal mart rural town 30 miles from a 1M metro area in NC was sold out of a strange assortment of stuff We do our weekly shopping there so Ive got a pretty good handle on what kind of stock they normally have Oddly No off brand Mayo with limited name brand stuff no off brand Tylenol or Advil only the higher priced name brand stuff left No Purell or hand sanitizer of any kind at all Limited hand soap Of course no surgical or dust masks of any kind we have some already but I was checking for a friend No chlorox or Lysol wipes limited Lysol spray plenty of bottled water still canned goods had been picked over but were still stocked at lower than normal levels Bread and milk were normal as were eggs as far as I could tell The store looked like it does after a strong shopping day but before restock like a Sunday afternoon after the weather has been bad and people were putting off going to the store but not like a snowpocalypse except for the OTC meds and cleaning supplies|1 the thing is i think in a lot of cases its symptoms of the flu that arent deadly however this does not meen its not deadly if someone would get it while having a worse immune system ie old people people with aidshiv it would be very severe|0 ou enact a death penalty not shooting on sight no one will fuck around Some people are too fucking weak to accept that No amount of respect should be shown to someone who holds no regard for anyone else especially not in this situation They are literal threats to society fuck em I couldnt care less theMate some people have permission to buy groceries you cant just shoot them without checking their documentation|0 Yeah no shit Already knew since January|0 Hopefully he doesnt have to test positive for that to happen|1 Why havent we seen more measles then if its so virulent|0 Yeah Come out on other countries like US|1 There are plenty of studies that show that surgical masks are effective at preventing respiratory illnessIm not saying they dont reduce spread Im saying they reduce spread by preventing those who are sick from infecting others Your link does nothing to disprove that it just repeatedly confirms that widespread use of masks and handwashing had provable effects on reducing spread of illness You should read table 2 for the actual results per that table1 study found handwashing wearing masks and using barriers were no more effective than handwashing alone 3 studies found wearing masks and gowns was effective combined with isolation 1 study found wearing a mask and gown was not more effective with isolation 1 study found wearing masks and gowns reduced infections of children in pediactric wards 1 study found masks alone had no effect 2 studies found wearing masks and frequent handwashing had no more effect than handwashing alone 1 study found wearing masks reduced spread to others when combined with handwashing 3 studies found that use of masks reduced spread 1 study found N95 masks and surgical masks were equally effective It does say though thatOverall masks were the best performing intervention across populations settings and threatsIt also interestingly saysThere is insufficient evidence to support screening at entry ports and social distancing spatial separation of at least one metre between those infected and those noninfected as a method to reduce spread during epidemicsThat part challenges a lot of how I thought about containment and control|1 Even old people are going to survive this sometimes The death rate is only 20 for people aged 80|0 Let natural selection do its job|1 Except thats the date THIS subreddit was created So nobody couldve been around here prior to that date is this sub did not exist|1 Your edit is utterly disgusting|0 I like the numbers where they are|1 Thanks for the hug and the supportive words|1 Ill keep en eye out and shoot Nvidia a support ticket Will report here if I hear anything|0 Yeah where I live the stores are out of hand sanitizer sanitizer wipes and sanitizing cleansers I happened to have a few things on hand but am not happy with the shelf clearing and hoarding Stores instituted buying limits but people still clear out every daily shipment fast|1 I have no clue perhaps read the instructionsjust cancel your order if you dont know what youre doing|0 Im not missing 2 weeks of work unless I really really have to The test is the difference between me going into work or not|1 Problem is its not hysteria Love from Italy 20 cases on February 23rd and a smarter president then yours|0 Your tax dollars at work Glad youre feeling better|1 Well Trump is in charge so can any of us really be surprised|1 there isnt any redundancy in job functions money set aside for paid time off etc Then you shouldnt be running a business And dont take that as a personal attack no business that does this should be allowed to continue If you cannot manage your employes properly and stay profitable then you should not stay|0 It is not yet fully understood how COVID19 is transmitted or whether individuals children or adults can transmit the virus if they are infected but asymptomatic According to the CDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpfaqhtml evidence so far suggests that the incubation period for SARSCoV2 can range from 214 days It is true that the mortality rate for children infected with COVID19 is estimated to be very low 02 according to the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Preventionhttpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51 but it is not known whether children or any other individuals can be asymptomatic carriers of the disease|0 There is undeniably a media blackoutEdit I too have experienced it many many times since this has been going on Ive never experienced censorship like this in the states|0 Well I am quite scared by the actual disease too|0 TLRs are part of the innate immune response Theoretically the innate immune system can be sufficient to deal with pathogens which is why we do not have an adaptive response to everything we are infected with usually evidenced by a heavy antibody responseI dont think you would find a single article that could break this down since it would be a chapter or two in the latest immunology textbooks|1 Please keep this going I really appreciate the additional info|1 My epidemiology class a while back went over this The flu has an average R0 of around 1214 however that is misleading for any seasonal epidemic Its the yearround average It jumps dramatically for 24 months then declines below 1 for the rest of the year typically as cases decline gradually The R0 isnt stable for the flu its a season virus|0 SKs presidentgovernment said the end is nearits being controlled twice so far just to have another outbreak first of which was the 31st patient related to that cult The numbers were looking alright too Better to be careful|1 Most of the West has not seen true hardship since 1945 They dont get it|0 The British guy who got like 20 people was asymptomatic Seems clinically proven and even in the German case some of the middle transmissions were asymptomatic people that didnt have contact with Chinese lady|1 Wow a fantasy I didnt know I had|1 I would think it would be lack of oxygen its a respiratory disease after all|0 lol |1 Youre a nurse and youre acting far from compassionately Youre starting a list to boycott businesses so they loose sales I understand frustrations but that is just wrong Cool down and think clearly|0 3000 people died of pneumonia in 201819 with a flu case fatality rate of say 01 Covid19 has a case fatality rate of 2 for the sake of argument which equates to an additional 60000 deaths in the comming months This is not an ordinary illness|0 Ingredients for food come from every corner of the world and those countries have almost zero resources to help the farmers and others involved with food production Then there is the problem of chemical fertilizers and pesticides replacement parts for equipment and enough workers during planting and harvest seasons Our food supply chain is going to be screwed up severely in the coming months and could possibly last years|0 Good work dude Bookmarked|1 There was a photo here a few weeks ago of workers in Thailand wiping downdisinfecting every delivery box US must have magic immune cardboard|1 Entering into wild conspiracy theory here but its actually somewhat beneficial to governments to have a reduction in elderly populations especially those with already weakened immune systems as their Medicare and social security coverages are quite expensive|1 Oh no|0 You say in your comments you dont even live in a country with one case where virtually no one from China would be travelling to and are ready to drug yourself Calm down you histrionic idiot|0 Nail on the head Other Islands nations like mine could have isolated themselves weeks ago At least youre doing it now|1 Ding ding ding we have got a winner|1 Cheers guys|1 I just disabled Facebook It really upsets me the amount of people who are acting high and mighty by judging others who are concerned about this virus For example complaining about events being canceled calling it an overreaction Making fun of people buying toilet paper Stating its not as bad as the flu|0 All the people saying just cancel it would probably also be complaining if their job chose to shut down tomorrow because it might help prevent the spread of this virus Especially if it meant there would be no job to come back to|0 That is why hubris is considered a deadly sin|0 No its not Its literally speculation even if it turns out to be correct Heres how it could turn out not to be correct China gets their shit under control within 12 months slows the infection rate and then returns to a cautious state of operationsMeanwhile the US buries their head in the sand and this overwhelms the health services We get 45x the of the population infected that China has and we spend many more months trying to get hospitals back to normal The higher death rate impacts citizens and businesses more seriously than in China with mortgage defaults medical bankruptcies and childcare complications A deeper recession takes hold China gets their manufacturing supply chain back to 50 capacity while the US still has everyone on lockdown because they waited too long By the time they DO open for business again Chinas in an even better position to meet business requirements than American companiesSubstitute China for Italy or South Korea or Germany or any country with their heads screwed on|0 To be honest it doesnt matter anymore It is almost a pandemic Once that happens and containment has failed trying to prevent it from spreading is over its onto the slowing the spreading stage and trying to limit its economic impactChina failed to contain it at the early stages they had the most important task and they failed Granted they clearly tried to contain it and Im not sure how other nations would have handle the same situation possibly no better Now we are going to have to live with it as a seasonal virus for the rest of time Comparing their response to that of any other nation is apples and oranges Eventually China will have transmission from people coming from outside of China and there response will have been completely for naught|0 Im sorry but 4k in Los Angeles isnt going to do shit for me if I get sick bills will not be paid|0 I think theyve learned the lesson that money sometimes is the least important thing in life|0 Sorry Too late and I should be in bed Put right now Please keep posting here Apologies again And this probably means I accidentally approved some other twit I should have removed |1 Actually that sounds nice|1 I mean the article states he developed a runny nose while on the plane he is suspected to have been exposed on from Denver to SF I dont know that symptoms begin within a couple hours of exposureAlso both cases in Denver currently are thought to be linked to travel I think its just as likely that this doctor was exposed in Australia before he came to the US Tracing these cases will become more and more difficult|0 Thank you|1 39 smoker with underlying health issues Dry cough lowgrade fever body aches fatigue a sore throat some days which is strange|0 When youre dead give us a call|0 I hope so|1 As of 9 AM so this probably increased|1 Says the guy obsessed with identity politics and will vote for Trump no matter what policy he flip flops on as long as hes one of ours|0 Bold|1 Said it before a sticky post would help a lot for people who are new to this and feeling overwhelmed Links to government pages useful sources of info indepth info Dr John Campbell etc|1 Also I believe I heard this thing shows exponential growth So would that mean itll take time to take off in other countries|1 Latest results from Italy Not so bad for the young Age deaths 049 yo 1 5059 yo 16069 yo 147079 yo 398089 yo 6090yo 18|1 Im from Madagascar The reason is that there are not many visitors in our country so our risk is really low I hope there will no cases as we are not equipped that much to fight such infections|0 Sure put them right by a river great idea|1 Yeah I hope the scaffolding on the Big Ben will be gone by then|1 You are welcome its and honor and a pleasure to heal|1 Happy cake day|1 If you test and contact trace you have a non zero chance of identifying and quarantining asymptomatic infected Jack and Jill are both asymptomatic Tod infected jack who infected Jill Under the British recommendations only Tod stays home jack and Jill continue with their lives and infect a lot of people If you were testing and tracing Tod tests positive says he coughed in jacks direction last Tuesday jack gets placed in preemptive quarantine and tested When he tests positive he says he kissed Jill and she gets placed in preemptive quarantine too All this reduces the amount of time both asymptomatic carry on with their normal lives and infect a lot less people This reduces the number of active transmission chains and therefore cases|1 If your local community supports it Id suggest a telecommunication visit with your doctor who can tell you where to go from there Many companies are doing them for free right now so you might not even need insuranceIf you have a smartphone look to see if your local healthcare company has an app I know Multicare and Providence have them but theyre super straightforward and will show you how to make the callEdit I have to go into work and wont be back until later tonight if you are having problems securing a telecommunication visit let me know and Ill do my best to run a search and help you secure oneIf telecommunication isnt an option please call your local primaryurgent care and let them know of your concerns so they have time to set up a room with quarantine precautions for staff They might need time to secure robesmasks and sanitize a room before you ariveIm just a student who has work history in hospitals this is not medical advice just an insight based on my experience working in a clinical setting If there are any questions I can give insight on based on my workschool history I can do my best to answer it based on my experience or point you in a direction to learn more for yourself|1 I think it sucks vs pain|0 My mom just got out of the ICU for the flu a few days ago in Ohio and said they never once tested her|0 Damn I was actually wondering that while reading comments earlier So much of it is negative towards the US and capitalism Basically everything sucks because capitalism wealthy are going to buy up all the available healthcare because thats what capitalists do and fuck all the rest of us etc Sitting there wondering if so many people in our country feel that way or if theres some dude in China posting all this crap as part of some psyop against the US|0 Watch Joe rogan Coronavirus podcast essentially our products are made in different countries even Meds So there will be a shortage In the future we should consider an infrastructure where all medical supplies is made in the US including meds|0 Trump wont pay|1 Yeah during the peak they just welded or barricade you in but now they might stick you in a hotel that collapses or at the least where you are more likely to get cross contaminated|0 Reminds me left 4 dead 2 finale|0 Any largescale event should be cancelled immediately This is common sense now|0 The decision is easier because the Chinese govenement is ironically totalitarianThey can shutdown without worrying about votes revolts Besides it was Chinese New Year when business was supposed to shut down for a week or so They have planned for shutdown just that now it has been much longer than originally planned It was bad for economy but better than extinctionbad|1 Britain hasnt been hit hard yet like the rest of Europe theyre only at 29per million cases it hasnt hit home yet for them|1 No you are calculating properly but there are problems inherent to your model 1 You are using total confirmed cases We have very good reason to believe that the total confirmed cases are vastly under reported due to the time it takes to get a confirmation In actuality the total number of cases is in the 10000100000 range2 Reporting bias People who are very ill are going to the hospitals where they get tested People who get no symptoms or only minor symptoms probably do not get tested So the tested group likely contains a disproportionate amount of seriously ill individuals compared to the infected as a whole3 Dieing is fast Surviving takes a while Deaths can be counted now But survivors must clear two virus screenings a week apart before being officially cleared So the cured report should lag the deaths considerably4 Inflated Infection rate People who are not infected but hear about the issue and happen to be running a fever go get checked Being in close proximity to the actual disease causes infections that wouldnt have happened had they not goneAll of this is a long winded way of saying that its still to early to call one way or another How the virus spreads in the USUK will be much more telling Infrastructure sanitation and hygiene in China are very much lacking compared to other modern countries and likely exacerbate the situation|0 I am not aware of mutations though honestly Im not at the cutting edge of the genomics team It is certainly a risk but an almost purely stochastic one that I cant do anything about Well react if it happens|1 The concern with this virus is that its contagiousness is likely to lead to 3090 depending on how you model it of the population being infected The fact that that is many months off does not make it less of a concernA 065 mortality rate for 3090 of the population is far from an apocalypse but its incredibly serious Without a cure or a vaccine this could kill more people than all the natural disasters of the last century thats based on thishttpswwwwhointenvironmentalhealthemergenciesnaturaleventsen WHO data which I do find strangely low And some of those natural disasters have been extremely seriousAs for taking it seriously enough its unclear what taking it seriously would even mean for the average person at this point since it is entirely out of your control Go get some exercise so that youre healthy in three months|0 You want Trump to cancel a marathon How about city and state people step up first|0 Your story doesnt make any sense If your girlfriend grew up in SyriaMarawi isnt in Syria its in Mindanao PhilippinesThe Philippines has been in a brutal civil war with jihadists for decades budjihadism isnt just in the middle eastim Filipinoborn in Mindanao Philippines as Ive explained in this comment chainYou have absolutely no idea what your talking aboutx200BThe fact that you dont even google the places you dont know about blows my mind You just make baseless assumptions|0 With all the misinformation flying around I find it amusing youve chosen a common myth to use here Not that it matters but yea not true the frog will gtfo|0 IM 67 my husband is 70 We are stocked with immune support supplements vitamins and enough of the OTC symptom relief medications for us each to use for 3 weeks We also stocked up on all the medications we take that are made in China tylenol advil etcEnough basic food and supplies to get us through a quarantine of 2 mo this or moreI do not want to get sick|1 You should also consider the possibility that what youre experiencing is psychosomatic and caused by the stress of having a relative get sick with this|0 Same here Our nurses taking regular flu precautions Its not airborne and asymptomatic spread is really unlikely head of infection control yesterday|0 IF I WERE HATING ON BORISWeird how lots of posters seem to lack the reading comprehension to understand the pretense thereOdd youd state stop playing politics then sign off the way you did subjectively speaking Yours another lefty socialist |0 Why isnt anyone pursuing DRACOhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiDRACO anymore DRACO seems ideally suited for this|1 Depends on moisture content If I have a choice between a surgical mask and nothing I think we all know what the smarter choice would be This is part of the reason they tell people to drink more water|1 Yeah the good old coded writing of every single medical doctor in existence Nobody cant read that shit heh|1 I just did the same a few hours ago bought essentially my normal pantry staple foods just in larger quantities and figured either it comes down to me being quarantined and I have a safety stock of food or if not and I cant use it all at least I can donate it afterwards Got serious side eye from the teenaged boy working the register who clearly realized what I was doing but I didnt care Stocked up on medicines cleaning supplies and wine also Helps my anxiety to feel like Ive prepared myself and have a semblance of control lolLuckily I have 100 work from home capability I do two days a week already and my management pulled us into a meeting just today to say use your judgement on this If you feel sick stay home and dont feel bad for doing it My company is global so weve been preparing for this since January internally and externally I feel very fortunate to be supported like that by my management and I realize my situation is the minority More employers should be making arrangements to allow flexibility teachers should be making arrangements to hold classes virtually Even if this dies down like you mentioned having a country wide business continuity plan for lack of a better word would be beneficial for the future economically and healthwise|1 Personally I have an all bets are off attitude towards anything for the oncoming 6 months so yes I would especially seeing as that 27K could potentially be a life saver for me and my spouse ifwhen the shit really hits the fan But hey thats me not you You are free to do as you please as Ive stated twice beforeBest of luck I hope it all works out|1 If the healthcare system is overburdened everyone is at risk for innaccessible treatment for all the normal thingscar crashes and other physical trauma appendicitis heart attacks pregnancies the list goes on Hospitals reaching max capacity affects everyone regardless of whether you contract the actual virus or not|0 Why are so many managers across so many fields such despicable and apathetic people|0 No all of China is not actively quarantined But they just added another city of 9 million to the list 2 days ago and it was nearly 1000km from Wuhan Like I said before the cities not officially under quarantine are ghost towns with no one on the streets or public transportation Even with major restrictions the virus is spreading rapidly based on unreliable govt records More and more H2H cases are being reported in counties outside China in which none of the people involved have been to China making it likely that there are homegrown outbreaks in countries like Thailand which are either not being reported or are not being tracked Also in what universe is 61million people not much Thats more than the population of most countries|0 So true I simply never liked him because he just seems like a prck But I didnt know enough to factually dismiss him and didnt care about him enough to learn exactly what hes up toThis is enough|1 Its like youre so upset you completely forgot what even started this stupid argument Person said its most effective form of protection I said its not Im right just admit it Quarantine is the most effective Washing your hands is most effective Staying 6ft away from people is effective Wearing a mask is farther down the list Lets focus on what people need to be doing Not the bs like stocking up on toilet paper and water AS YOU JUST STATED everyone buying masks is just lowering the supply The people who need them are hospitals and first responders etc Not fucking Jane getting into her car in her driveway|1 i was just talking to my girlfriend and how we had such a peaceful summer 2019 when we first met and the worst thing was maybe not wanting to go to work in the morning sometimesi wanna go back to that|0 That doesnt pay the bills|1 No He did do a travel ban eventually Was there any injunction Keep your politics out|0 Its definitely a bad thing but knowing the severity would be helpful|1 Bruh dont go full stupid It already ate his brain|1 Ah yes I remember loading Tunnels of Doom this way Such anticipation but so worth it Many fond memories of playing that game with the family|1 No economy low oil prices no one buying Tesla Simple as that|0 In the states most people I talk to still think its a joke or wont affect them personally|1 Singapore is always warm as well|1 FUCK JEFF BEZOS|0 Why should they stay open Do people desperately need a new outfit A shiny new electronic device Does office based work HAVE to be done in an office Do kids NEED that hot new toyTrust me Id be impacted hard by a general shut down but why should it stay open Businesses are already seeing huge drops in income 4050 drop overnight in my place of work Staying open forcing workers to come in to do next to no work because no one is using the service costing the company extra in running costs just on the CHANCE someone might shop with you is more damaging financially than closingBusinesses should be shutting up shop where possible people should be ordering their groceries online where possible Distanceisessential|0 Our density and landmass are wayyyy different than theirs Keep that in mind Its the UK Im worried about Theyre almost equal in case count and they are so much smaller and are so dense in population|0 The world is scared shitless of the word pandemic Its implications for the international business are too too too damn wide You call this what it is and start reporting cases you might as well bet your whole lifes savings on widespread economic collapse Contracts would be canceled interstate deliveries halted flights grounded Thats why we can only hope for the virus to burn itself down over some time and then maybe receive some sort of close to reality stats post factum If it stays as a seasonal illness were kinda done for|0 Weve been lying to you for weeks Let the panic start now|0 Not at all Actually smart if your husband has pulmonary issues means you love him Who remembers their first birthday party anyway Just have it 6 months from now when the dust settles for the photo opts|1 Its always possible but unlikely because 1 coronaviruses have a proofreading mechanism that prevents them from mutating quickly and 2 viruses that kill a lot of people dont spread as quickly as the ones that dont|0 But there are plenty of people who barely have any symptoms So the point remains if you have a healthy immune system it will stop the virus before it causes serious damage|0 User name checks out Unfortunately most 3D printers are probably made in china|0 I am pleased to be wrong but still not actually optimistic|0 Does NY Post still claim to be a nonsatire news site I swear every time I see a link its like readying The Onion or Babylon Bee Theyre worse than The Daily Mail|0 Its not logical Its just different and based on 10 instead of numbers that make sense for what youre trying to doImperial units are the way they are for practicality in different domains and theyre designed to be parceled out evenly You can divide a foot mile pound ton minute hour quart gallon etc easily and evenly Thats also why you have different sets of units of the same type distance weight volume etc A mile is 5280 feet because 5000 feet is a useful general scale and 5280 has a lot of prime factors for divisibilityUntil you switch to metric time change the base unit of mass from the kilogram to the gram drop CelsiusCentigrade for Kelvin etc youre not exactly standing on any consistency either|1 The current version of RTPCR used in China is only 782 sensitivity for detection which is incredibly low for a screening test The CDC version is likely in the same ball park This is what happens when you move fast httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022520027755v2|0 I have no idea how this is going to work Can anyone explain So is it closed indefinitely or until the end of March Because in two weeks this virus is only going to get worse not betterSo in two weeks are they going to extend the closure Theyll have to I would think And what are the thousands of cast members going to do for money|0 Not much a government can do if people here are stupid Theyve been saying for the past few weeks to stay indoors and avoid crowded places they closed every school in the country banned crowds for sporting events closed theaters cinemas etcPeople are crowding parks ski resorts restaurants and such more than they did before The next step would be to hold people inside their homes with the military but I dont see that happening|0 The epidemiologists in charge of our Swedish Agency of Public Health hail the British response and says this is the way to go for us as well They say the risk is high and we must act now but theyre not closing borders or shops or universitiesschoolsOnly thing theyve done so far is a ban on gatherings with more than 500 people and urging people to stay home and wash their hands more A patheticly weak response to this whole thing|0 Trump is gonna have a hard job blaming foreigners if hes banned them all|0 USA do yourself a favor Elect this man|1 httpsstatic01nytcomimages20200130uschinacoronaviruscontainpromo1580431440996chinacoronaviruscontainpromo1580431440996videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600v6pngEdit Read graph in reverse Spanish Flu and SARS are probably similar MERS was lower in R0 Thanks gizmo1001Ive seen estimates this could be between 36 but its actually looking much higher to me|0 Some of these classes use a lockdown camera with a webcam so its not as easy to cheat as youd think|0 Exactly Like others have pointed out when you get back from vacation you need to get some things from the store like milk and other perishable items I doubt they got home and instanly called there doctors Did they go to the ER Thats alot of contact just right there|1 Three colleges in NYCManhattan closed for the week as of tonight Im about 3 hours from therenorth of Albany waiting for the trickle down Hoping its sooner than later|1 White House and the CDC downplaying the situation and the lack of testing done causing the general public to believe this is just another flu|0 Adverse possession takes anywhere from 330 years depending on the jurisdiction 1015 years is most typicalAlso in most states these days you have to pay the property taxes for the whole time while youre also meeting each of the other fairly obscure legal requirements about your manner of possessionhttpswwwnolocomlegalencyclopediastatestaterulesadversepossessionhtmlSo you cant just go and squat somewhere and automatically become the owner through adverse possession|0 Get COVID19 tested using this one weird trick Doctors hate him|0 well then better not reelect the current president because hes excellent dictator material down to the personality disorder and level of delusion based on the obvious mental health issues alone not addressing the political part|1 Assuming theyre already sick then its not like they can double catch it Theres 2 strains sure but I think at the point youre needing hospital care for it then youre going to be around sick peoples regardless|0 I dont understand the toilet paper thing personally It makes me lol Im glad you are doing shopping elsewhere Steps like that will hopefully help keep you well I stocked up a little bit on things I normally buy Like the bigger bag of frozen chicken breasts larger rice than normal a couple extra bags of frozen veggies My thoughts are that even though I am not in a high risk group I really flippin hate being sick so why potentially expose myself when I dont need to Something to think about anywayStay safe friend|1 Poor people are screwed no matter what Thats your defense for raising prices Thats disgusting Theyre some of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged people already youll obviously be screwing them over waaayyy more by raising pricesYoure acting like this is the only solution Its not Limiting the quantity you can purchase is a thingAlso I dont know why youre assuming the doctors and nurses would have been buying the overpriced hand sanitizer from this random dollar store I suspect the store would have been selling it to regular people just for inflated prices|0 I can say they wont do anything before a lot of pople die|0 What are the chances this is a backlog of cases|1 I got in an argument with a friend who posted she was out to dinner last night and responded with I wash my hands and have the flu shot Im fineThats when I realized how really fucked were about to be|0 No Either you probably misinterpreted what they said or they misspoke SARS incubation period is half the time of nCOV Therefore nCOV symptoms are slower to show up than SARS symptoms|0 Even my husband thinks I am nuts worrying about this Virus He doesnt want to hear about it any longer I live in the US Noone here is talking about it They are living in La La Land In the meantime I have picked up some extra groceries and supplies Just never know if you will have to stay home|0 Im never going to call it covid19You know that name was chosen specifically to have no mention of China in any way despite in this case they definitely deserve the honorChinaFlu|1 Yes Goddammit Where are the fucking tests|1 If you remmeber when early in the quarantine people all went to thier balcanies to sing the nationa anthem The government told them to stop doing that and go inside because they were infecting eachother|0 Wow sounds like things escalated quicklyThe threat has many facets How many of the noninfected are convinced they have it How many of them are going to emergency rooms|1 Everything Ive read is that on the current course US is taking we will be at worst case scenario in early may|0 Thanks Im not aware of any papers relating specifically to autoimmune diseases it might be worth checking the websitesforums of support groups for specific conditions as theyre probably being asked the same question and may have managed to work out an answer|1 Well I do walk 20 mins to work every day|1 As callous as this sounds Im not really that upset about my grandma getting sick and dying Or even my mom getting sick and maybe dying Its the fact that from all accounts it sounds like shes moved past the asymptomatic stage and is now showing all the telltale signs of being infected and highly contagious The doctor even said that she may have a touch of corona and to check back in a few days if the coughfeverupper respiratory infection dont start to subside Meanwhile no advice to self isolate No sense of urgency to monitor her the next 24 hours Just keep going about your 79 year old life like nothing is going on in the World Its not like shes got one symptom shes got them all So say God Forbid she falls out Sunday without one of her comorbidity preexisting conditions and they test her positive So everywhere shes been today yesterday tomorrow and wherever she makes it to Sunday has been painted black with her germs and viruses Every Family Dollar every Kroger Every UDF Every Arbys Every Post Office Every Gas Station and anywhere else she deems necessary to keep panic buying this weekend Imagine the community spread shes going to cause So not just my grandma dies hundreds of grandmas and grandpas in my community die The sick cancer kid down the street dies Thats just her community spreadHad she been tested TODAY and diagnosed positive then Id be in quarantine right now along with my mother my aunt my best friend and about 45 other people that we were in close contact with todayyesterday But instead I go to work tomorrow as a server at a restaurant Mom went to work tonight at a cramped call center Best Friend goes to work tomorrow at a huge manufacturing plant as well as her kids going to be baby sat and then all the panic buying and interacting well so between now and this time tomorrow Thats just one single probable patient zero of this cluster of community spread happening as we speak that is spreading like the Summer wildfires of Mendocino County because her doctor didnt text her despite about 6 red flags pointing towards COVID19 If this is my little story then how many of the other 10999986 Ohioans out there right now have the same story or worse|0 Airlines could be speeding up the spread with these discounts all to keep their businesses operational Peoples lives be damned if it meant a loss in profit|0 Whats the latest scientific concensus on that Makes sense in theory at least in viruses that can cook under 42C or whatever we are ok to max out on But is it for most bacterial and viral infections|1 but given that this thing is probably not containable it would be relatively good news that the death rate would be that much lower|0 This made me literally lol thank you But now I have the song stuck in my head Nooooooo|1 I think possibly lungs can be badly scarred|0 One very bad study shows a strong link independent of age Another equally bad study shows no relationship after controlling for age|0 Hence vote Bernie Lets bern these people to the ground they have been profiteering off the backs of human death for long enough|0 Yep I managed to find 91 IPA at a little Beiters downtown Target CVS Giant and Weiss were all stocked out of all IPA and hand sanitizer when I was there as well as disinfectant pad and wipes Only 4 presumptive cases in PA right now but people are at least prepping Did get a gallon of a quat disinfectant for maintaining a clean sick bathroom and a gallon of hand soap We already had a bad cold or weak flu pass through the house three weeks ago and now the little one has some Herpangina going on Poor kid cant catch a break|0 A lot of the schools round here that have closed or partially closed due to shortages are still offering lunches packed and ready to pick up and take away Hopefully when they shut schools all over there will be similar initiatives|1 People in Japan do not shake hands generally speaking They may occasionally and awkwardly do so with westerners out of considerationSource lived in Japan for a decade|0 Stay strong|1 You dotn realise how much misinformation there is in reddit until you come ucross a highly upvoted post of soemthing you actually understand|0 Great ty|1 Mental illness is a current pandemic|0 In Korea patients are divided into four categories minor patients are allocated to general isolation facilities with fewer medical staff and patients with severe or more severe symptoms are classified into emergency rooms Even without symptoms if a virus is detected it is isolated immediately Isolating patients with the lightest symptoms is like prevention|0 Tbf I understand the logic behind itIf your only mandate as an organisation is to collect data and suggest policy decisions based on that Why would you do anything to piss off nations ie your sources of information|0 I can just imagine the guys at cdc 5pm on Friday being like well that was a hell of a week heading to the bar for a pint see ya all Monday then just chilling for the weekend|0 There are various predictions of the percentage of world or local population that will be infected ranging from 50 to 70 There are also predictions for the first waveWhat kinds of people are likely to not get infected Anything that is apart from their physical traits and can potentially be copied|0 Definitely not millions lol|1 Is mine the only one saying like 2647665 confirmed The numbers below dont match up thoughhttpsimgurcomaGdJW1FbhttpsimgurcomaGdJW1Fb|1 Truly disgusting this needs to be a criminal investigation sending thousands to get infected and hundreds to possibly die from that crowd depending on preexisting conditions and age while fully knowing this is a risk|0 Same here Neighbors and friends and family and coworkers including boss have no clue what we are headed towards I am trying to stay focused on my immediate family in order not to be so angry at everyone which includes staying off Facebook as much as possible This Virus is showing the true colors of people we know and love Because of this virus i do not and will not ever support our president for anything I will vote for Mickey Mouse come November if no other choices are given|1 Did you read it allTo make an overall assessment of the potential global health impact of this pandemic the team needed to estimate the CFR across all people who will be infected irrespective of symptom severityThis required estimates of the number of people currently infected including those with mild or no symptoms From the results of testing of all passengers irrespective of symptoms on several repatriation flights to Japan and Germany the team estimate that 13 of the population of Wuhan currently had the infection on January 31stComparing this figure with reported case numbers the team estimate only about 1 in 19 people infected with COVID19 in Wuhan are being tested for infection and therefore being reported as confirmed cases In turn this allowed them to estimate that the CFR of COVID19 in people with detectable infection including some who may never develop symptoms is approximately 1 uncertainty range 054|0 Couldnt agree more To add though the civil service and local NHS trusts seem totally unprepared as well I cant believe we only realised yesterday that we are short of ventilators PPE intensive care units We were given a massive gift of advanced warning from China South Korea and Italy The government through inaction and hesitation has squandered itDifficult to disagree with|1 At the time I didnt know what it would cost so I asked the lady at reception if she had any idea and she said Oh probably not that much Didnt even see a doc A nurse did the tetanus shot and I went back to pay The woman said they dont process payments at reception and told me Theyll send you something in the mail Two weeks later I get a bill that said to bring it to Payments at the hospital Amount owing 1200|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 What about phytochemicals that can act as an anti viral like turmeric|1 In theory it also has antiviral properties that prevent the virus from replicating I think a lot about the immunosuppressant properties But the other day the doctor on here said that it takes a good three months of use before the immunosuppressant effects kick in anyway So if this works after a couple days I suppose the implication is that the antiviral effect is real|1 death rate in young people is 02And theyll write a paragraph about how their math equates to a 50 death rate AND how its gonna spread to 1000000 cases by tomorrow|0 Everybody disliked that|0 limited testing capacity how are you going to get tested without going to a doctor anyway if we test everyone with any symptoms during flu season were very quickly going to overwhelm the labs which process the tests that is why it is important for doctors to make educated decisions about who TO test and who to NOT test Not just test everyone who walks in the door claiming they coughed and therefore have NCOV|0 Its a damned if you do damned if you dont but he still should have postponed it fuck what the opposition would have said|0 My God|1 Feel like youre moving the field goal posts a bit Doesnt matter I employee tons of Indians who move to America with nothing and see the success they create for themselves Its incredible Some of these guys grow up with nothing and the only reason we employ these guys is because theres really no alternative Go to a community college and get a 2 year degree in computer science with a security focus Youll be making 6 figures in 5 years People dont want it that bad tho|1 I was replying to the other guy who asked if they were greek youre good|1 I love this fucking news thank you for this|1 Baby GG EZ|1 Lol fair enough I guess I meant in better health then the general publicGenerally|1 The cat being out of the bag is not a valid argument in the context of global health in my opinion Eventhough you might be right it doesnt mean we shouldnt look to make the best possible outcome from where we are right now|1 Yes Ive speculated that its been in the US since at least December I work at a hotel and we have a worker that got sick and has the exact symptoms of Covid19 She even ended up hospitalized because of double pneumonia and an upper respiratory infection that strong antibiotics did absolutely nothing for |1 I have no idea Its very unsettling|0 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 A head doctor here in Macedonia refused to follow protocol and get tested since our country is corrupt beyond repair the woman abused her position and political connections to threaten people with their jobs if they insist she gets testedLo and behold lady is positive and could have potentially infected hundreds of people during the 5 days she refused to undergo tests and walked around holding lectures and being in contact with patients and colleaguesHer punishment A public warning and a slap on the wristWe also have problems with people trying to hide symptoms trying to escape through windows when medics come to conduct tests and what notOur government is doing their best given the terrible economic and political state our nation is in but their best isnt going to be good enough when they have to deal with hundreds upon hundreds of fully grown adult children unable to comprehend basic instructions or corrupt government officialsTo make things worse employers unless specifically ordered by law force people to go to work even though they might not have to My mom has to go to work even though if her job just gave her a laptop with all the software they use installed she could be doing her work from home because neither her nor I can drive Im legally blind and her eyesight isnt the greatest either she is forced to use public transport exposing herself to danger every day on the busShe is 58 and very healthy but given her age and the downright awful state Macedonias healthcare generally is in chances of survival if this gets worse are going to be drastically reduced regardless of ageWhen hits the fan here its going to be a nightmare and with the world in chaos no one is going to be able to aid us|0 Not quite The death rate is a variable with some relation to the care Several reports out of Italy has some mention of insufficient resources and focusing care on those that are more likely to surviveIf they were on top of it sure the rate would be that or even lower Some experts suggest as low as 04 completed case mortality So it should be but it isnt because it is to a degree overwhelming the systemYes the mild at home are not counted so it may not be anywhere near 10 either|1 Fake news for free folks|1 Prayers for you man best thing you can do is stay away from everyone else How many days has it been since you last saw her The average person infects 26 people and has symptoms after an incubation of 56 days so if its been a while then youre probably fine Just be sure to get the message to your coworkers to stay away from the elderly|1 Cheers for this Really didnt consider it Washing my hands loads and spraying everything that comes in the post like mad and yet forget something so obvious Any ideas on how to effectively clean makeup sponges I currently just use the Real Techniques gel but doubt its killing much off|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Oh Im with you 100 but no one is listening|0 Fuck BAU the Syracuse Ny office is still open This is bullshit still scheduling new installs repairs and appointmentsWhat is wrong with this picture Not a whole lot just spreading the disease Take one for the team maybe ill get to wear jeansgtfo The job is not worth it|0 Yes but at least in my area they are encouraging people to go get tested Then turning away almost everyone Regardless whos fault it is we are all responsible for each other as well We are all humans lets work together and just put this piece of history in the books and learn from it|1 Im also in the US As far as infectious diseaes go this is bigger than Ebola and Avian Flu Now i just want to stock up bc this is going to be orders of magnitude more impactful Sometimes I think Americans are not aware because we think we are untouchable Lack of good American news coverage makes me think we are all being dupedand this is too big to tell the peopleI was in Seoul in Dec and Lombardy and Veneto in Jan and now there are cases there so looking at the photos just made me realize it is expanding and coming to America We have two oceans and geography is in our favor but it only gives us a little longer for normalcy|1 Now more than 80000 people in China have been infected with the virus but more than 53000 people have been cured Now China Medical has cured a lot of people I think many countries can imitate some of Chinas security measures|1 Yeah I guess not all doctors are up to speed on it|1 Seeing the death rate outside China yesPotentially less depending on Location|0 no one here is taking it seriously or even really talking about it Radio show hosts are just commenting on the new of deaths but are just being soblase about like we dont already have a few thousand people in self quarantine here in the US|1 He should be putting himself firstnot those he might be helping|1 I never thought it would suck to be the live music capital of the world but yet here we are|0 This is a function of NYS doing their own state testing Washington State is fucked|0 I had a a friend come home in January from China He wanted me to visit I told him hell no I really should message to see if hes okay He went back to China a couple weeks ago|0 Are you nervous ppl will buy things up Seeing amazon is 12 months out is freaking me out for sure|0 Lots of folks got popular just by saying orange man bad|0 What this is gonna blow the Just a Flu bros minds awayDidnt realize you could this every year since its just the flu|0 Their formatting caught me up at first too but if you read carefully theyre first comparing the percentage of blood groups in the general population versus the infected population in the hospital When you do this the ratio of type A is higher than type B than what should be expected if the virus attacked each blood group equally Here is the relevant paragraph Ill separate the key sentences to highlight this distriubtionx200BThe ABO group in 3694 normal people in Wuhan showed a distribution of 3216 2490 910 and 3384 for A B AB and O respectively POPULATIONversus the distribution of 3775 2642 1003 and 2580 for A B AB and O respectively in 1775 COVID19 patients from Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital SICK PEOPLEThe proportion of blood group A and O in COVID19 patients were significantly higher and lower respectively than that in normal people both P 0001Similar ABO distribution pattern was observed in 398 patients from another two hospitals in Wuhan and Shenzhen Metaanalyses on the pooled data showed that blood group A had a significantly higher risk for COVID19 odds ratioOR 120 95 confidence intervalCI 102143 P 002 compared with nonA blood groups whereas blood group O had a significantly lower risk for the infectious disease OR 067 95 CI 060075 P 0001 compared with nonO blood groupsIn addition the influence of age and gender on the ABO blood group distribution in patients with COVID19 from two Wuhan hospitals 1888 patients were analyzed and found that age and gender do not have much effect on the distributionCONCLUSION People with blood group A have a significantly higher risk for acquiring COVID19 compared with nonA blood groups whereas blood group O has a significantly lower risk for the infection compared with nonO blood groups|0 Nancy Pelosi would take over assuming she wasnt also sick I know Republicans would be on the ground twitching Wed think there was a new virus infecting everyone|1 Well I live in Texas and most small business owners arent going to stand for that crap Everyone and their dog has a freaking gun when things get bad here they will be made infinitely worse by every moron with a gun I fully expect some shop owners to defend their goods to their last dying breath if need be In the US we want to make sure all of our fellow citizens get theirs right after we get ours|0 I think better not to touch them at all and then with gloves remove them and and get rid of them where other people cant get and reuse |1 No audio on my end|0 Pulled mine out as of today but Im buying time saying theyre sick for the week Ill beg the principal next week I also work from home and am a high risk|0 No one knows for surehttpsfuturismcomneoscopedeadlyoutbreakcovid19northkoreaProbably the closest youre going to get We wont know unless it gets really bad and they start calling for assistance like Iran|0 Its disgusting small peckered chink assholes like you that would support a communist regime that has killed millions and has now released this plague upon the world and now its arrogant enough to blame the US Fuck off chang|0 I know there are changes coming to the sick notes but prior to this the Ford government required it|0 Its going to help a lot of people|1 Hi guys asking for a help I see that hand sanitizers are no good in the earlier comments so what do I buy to prevent Mask unnecessary hand sanitizer no needed so what else|1 But that is what the whole asymptomatic thing is about and one of the reasons this is so scary people have it and spread it without showing it|0 So happy to see some good news for a change|1 If you dont know or have a source for it dont say it The biggest problem with this is the MASSIVE amount of misinformation circulating Dont be part of that problem|0 Yup We already saw this yesterday when he was at the CDC and called the governor of Washington a snake and told Pence he shouldnt be nice to him Then went on to say his coronavirus response was just as perfect as his phone call with Zelensky Thousands of people will be dying from this and hell still make it about himself|0 Hes awesome Especially love cutthroat kitchen|1 Yes amphetamines constrict arteries resulting in an increased heart rate and blood pressure|1 Yep Dont you remember last year when we shut down and quarantined an entire city because of seasonal flu Oh waitthat doesnt happen|0 We also export a lot of valuable things to the USA as well Oil natural gas wood products foodagriculture precious minerals electronics and machinery computer technology spacecraft cars etcVery little of which is needed right now when the economy grinds to a literal halt|1 Im worried about this|0 ok ty |1 Italy is doing everything they can but they still have 194 deaths with a 3 death rate|0 The head teacher is now staring me down she cant believe Ive refused her request to take off my mask and gloves Help|1 I never dreamed this would still be true at this point|1 I live in San Antonio and I couldnt even get fucking beans or eggs at my grocery store so what the fuck|0 ah shit here we go again|0 It never fails to astound me how dumb vast majority of Americans are when it comes to socialismDanish PM in US Denmark is not socialistI know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism Therefore I would like to make one thing clear Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy Denmark is a market economyhttpswwwthelocaldk20151101danishpminusdenmarkisnotsocialist|1 Mods did it They dont like anything that is off the narrative|0 No a lot do not have health insurance|0 Whats worse is last Monday I was on my break and got hit by a car while I was walking Had to be taken by ambo to the nearest hospital My boss was legitimately concerned but the bosses boss said NOTHING even after I mentioned it in my politely worded email back So Never felt like I actually mattered to them anyways so I guess getting hit by a car and most likely having Coronavirus wouldnt change that shrug|0 Thanks |1 Might there be a way to include information about testing Number of tests administered or maybe percentage of tests given that were positive|1 Im saying though its something that is actually within most peoples control however most people choose to eat unhealthy food and neglect exercise I dont say this to intend to shame anyone however I believe people should be more careful with their health than they are and maybe this can serve as a wakeup call|0 Yall are underpaid heroes Thank you|1 Wait is Sanders actively practicing I thought he was like most Jewish people I know where being Jewish is more like an ethnicityfamily history than an active beliefworship Also I have to admit that I assumed Romney was actively practicing but if Im going to be fair I should ask the same question about him Is Romney actively practicing|1 Shits fucked yo|0 Man why is China so goddamn smart lol|1 Im a train driver We are operating as normal for now with reduced passenger numbers However if someone contracts it at our depot it will have to be deep cleaned and closed for a short period If more are put in to isolation will no doubt be cancellations due to lack of train crew Still be running as we need to get vital workers such as the amazing NHS staff to and from work but can expect to see a reduced service in coming weeks Line controllers signallers Network Rail frontline engineerspwaytechnicians station staff etc are all needed to keep it going so if your train is cancelled due to staffing issues it could be any number in a large chain that keeps the trains running|0 Im curious what happened I thought Macron was supposed to be this progressive leader but all Ive heard is that he has been fucking over the middle class|1 The lead author of that piece is a gender and human rights consultant whatever that meansIm a lawyer and I certainly wouldnt trust doctors or epidemiologists to tell me about the lawFor exactly the same reason the opinion of a group of global health law experts about what are the most medically effective ways of preventing or delaying a global outbreak are totally irrelevant Its not their field A construction lawyer would be able to comment on building codes but you wouldnt trust them to build a bridge|0 My point is that now that most people think they are totally ineffective in preventing the spread of coronavirus because thats exactly what the government told them Therefore in say 6 months when we have plenty of masks for everyone no one will buy them and use them despite the fact that it would help reduce the spread of coronavirus Or the next pandemic that comes alongI understand there arent enough masks now so protect the people who save everyone else I 100 agree with that But it would help if we had enough for everyone which one day will happen but then people wont use them Its not just healthcare workers that come into contact with coughing sick people Just go outside and you will encounter them Even on reddit the vast majority of people think they do nothing to stop the spread of coronavirus Check my comments about it Or just post in a thread that they are at least somewhat effective and see what people sayBy the way Im not blaming you of course or trying to yell at you Just explaining why its a concern for me Maybe Im wrong and people will start wearing them next time or if this lasts a long time and we have plenty Apparently they dont question anything the CDC tells them so next time they can just say wear them and everyone will|1 Lots abandoned buildings anywhere available space is near CNA LPN RN MD there are dozens of nursing schools alone in Illinois an example|0 Good|1 Too bad everything is censored in Iran|0 We do ask people to look at phones social media accounts calendar appointments and bank statements in their phones Problematically though when outbreaks get big enough we struggle to do the long contact tracing interviews that these investigations require|0 Seriously actually teared up seeing this thinking as bad as things are as bad as they will get MOST of us stand a fighting chance thanks to advancements in technology and medicine that did not exist 100 or even 50 years ago|0 As someone who lived off ibuprofen for a time in my life Im offended|0 The fact there could be many useful posts pinned to the top and we have a picture of an elderly lady in a supermarket pinned sums up the usefulness of any modding|1 He is just one of many with medical knowledge giving updates and analysis about this thing People on reddit are treating him like he is the only expert out there though Its pretty stupid if you ask me Hes a nurse Sure he knows stuff but I would think there are many more qualified people to run the WHO|1 This may have been answered previously but need evidence based answer here ASAPI am a frontline health care worker in an obstetrical unit in Canada We have been told that we are to use standard masks with eye protection when caring for covid19 patients unless that patient requires a general anestheticintubation at which time we will be able to access restricted N95respirators Is this safe|1 Yeah as if I do not hate this virus enough|1 It was also in India very early and India has yet to see a significant rise in respiratory related illnesses or deaths And India is otherwise the perfect environment for disease given its wellknown issues with hygienesanitationcrowdingetc Climate is literally the only advantage India has over Italy and I find it extremely telling that one of them has had an explosion of illnesses and death while the other has not|0 Thats a bit reassuring thanks I will be talking to a GI specialist so im not sure what theyd say for my specific medication I got sick at the beginning of February with a bad cough but recovered in less than a week Thats what gives me hope for this virus although the uncertainty about it is what both worries and reassures meOn one hand it could pass through a good portion of the healthy population and we go on maybe even without hospital visits On the other hand it could be still risky to people with these meds and there just isnt enough data yet Im gonna avoid the university dining hall and try to get my work done at home for the most part Also I still plan on taking my medication in a few days but im waiting for a call from my specialist still Good luck to both of you|1 Strooong denial Americans think they are invincible and this sort of thing only happens to other parts of the world|1 Grab your masks and hand sanitizers too while theyre still available |1 Yeah millions of us are in that same boat its one of the things Ive had to learn in my life that if people dont want to be helped or dont want to learn or improve then theres no reasoning with it We all come to our own conclusions unfortunately the normalcy bias is at play like youve said and people would rather sweep trauma under the rugYour decision obviously but I do not believe that you should fly out to see her even if flights are available which I doubt they will be To be blunt if weeks down the line she still doesnt care and is trying to put you down would you really want to have a life and children with someone like that anyway|0 Because Iran is handling it so much better lol|1 Because circumstances have changed There is known risks and unknown risksNo body in the world booked the trip with the known risk of killing all of their loved onesGiven that this is about public safety and health the normal rules do not apply Unless your telling me that you want yourselfyou loved ones to die because someone couldnt get a refund|0 They are providing this for Koreans as well|1 We did I got mine pretty early though so it was the version that public health authorities were saying wasnt wellmatched to the strains that were going around so it still could have been that Just didnt really feel like a normal flu though|0 Like I said I roped Taiwan in with China Just assumed they were still controlled by China So mentally I added all the people China would have in Prison with themI see I was wrong|0 Well I dont expect that to be a problem for a narcissist|0 Not really The article says she had symptoms and even told the friend she may have Covid They still had sex anyway Then the guy told a friend in his party that he hooked up with a girl that may have Covid The friend is the one that alerted the authoritiesIts like a telenovela|1 Well no one got sick|0 I was gonna say banned for saying Trump did something right|0 Yeah lol this is nothing out of the ordinary for him This is standard Romney action|1 I know a guy who emigrated from India and a few years in the west he said he cant visit his home country without getting sick|1 Suzanne somers was hot in growing pains|0 Lock down will have a delayed effect Need to wait longer to see the effect|0 Because thankfully the youngest deaths are between 1019|1 Please share the materials online as MOOCs We need to treat our universities as public wellsprings of knowledge|1 Considering that every country has their own protocols for testing would such data give any meaningful result|1 This ship sailed last week Wasting resources on shutting down airlines aint gonna happenThats the tip of the iceberg community spread is ON We are past the containment stages The 90 of the iceberg is here now its now CanadianStay safe and stay the fuck home famThe informations is there We are tracking behind Italy in exactly the same way This is about to be a very very serious humanitarian crisis here now in CanadaDont panicBe kindBe the type of human you want to see in the world|0 Oh fuck off with this Ayn Randin bullshit People cant afford a broken arm never mind a extended hospital stay And no capitalist is going to spend money to build 200 hospitals that are going to go out of business in a few months when people cant afford to go there anyway|0 Dude Can you please stop spamming this to everyone who commentsAlso people are asking for a source Give it to them or they wont take you seriously|0 Logically inconsistent Most of the people who vote and hold office are over 60 years old Everyone is going to get the flu anyway 100 likelihood no matter what the government does The stock market is going to tank anyway 100 likelihood based on the last 100 years of empirical data But I dont think the government is thinking any of this I think theyre just a bunch of moron who really dont know anything and have no skills or expertise that is useful in this situation|0 In some ways this feels a bit worse|0 Yeah 10 days ago this virus was killing 100 people per day now its 800 people I would be very surprised if this virus doesnt overtake daily HIV deaths in 2 weeks|0 If they are actually based in Luxembourg like some articles claim then the most likely culprit is Rotarex|1 Thats a really weird interpretation of that It means anything not made explicit by federal law is reserved to more localized governments or the public by vote|0 DaMn iLleGaLS bRinGIng iT N|0 Its fascinating that supposing the testing labs are working 24 hours the difference of 2 hours in announcements would only account for a difference of 4 confirmed cases 46 new cases 24 hours x 2 hours 4 cases|1 The virus is not containable unless both the EU and US introduce martial law but it is not going to happen Congratulations to countries such as North Korea they managed to remain in safety by closing their borders Politicians tell that virus doesnt respect borders hmm|1 My church recently announced changes trying to stop the coronavirus Things like no communion wine the priest wont touch you to give a blessing the greeters wont shake your hand etcEveryone is pissed about it and the two most common responses are its not any worse than the flu and its all Gods plan who are we to interfere I know Im going to heaven so I dont careMost of these people are 60 or older btw This represents a fair amount of America|1 Have any imposed lockdowns since the breakout been lightenedlifted|0 I hate that this has basically become my life now I forget for a few hours but then Im right back here thinking about this all over again Im so worried about my mom Shes in 3 high risk categories Luckily she knows and acknowledges the danger and is doing literally everything to protect herself Stay safe everyone |0 Nobody pop any blue bubblesAnd for real good luck to all involved in the medical field right now|1 The masks arent a guarantee but they can reduce your chances by up to sixty percent if proper hand washing and disinfecting is also happening|1 I have a person in my office that sits in the cubicle right next to me he has been coughing and having a slight trouble breathing for a weekI keep voicing my concerns and I get nowherehe was out of the office the last to days and is back today he is still coughing a lot I told my boss I want to work from home this is the response i got after talking with xx there should be no need to work remotely if you have any further concerns please send me an emailthe sick person was also talking to another person and think all of these closures and cancellations are a joke|0 Im impressed with the transparency of this public health department|1 Fear Its like a bluff thing|0 Yes the cases that are being detected here were often from areas that had not yet at the time reported any cases Las Vegas Utah Colorado this thing is all over the US they just arent testing|1 Thats a relief Although still concerning the virus has been present in this gentleman for such a long time|1 Might be unpopular opinion but I think we have to bail them out or were losing essential services and massive jobs Just simultaneously set a federal limitation on future stock buybacks and reserve requirements for all businesses|0 Thank you for doing this The CDC hadnt updated their casesdeaths for 3 days when you created this There is a case 3 miles from me and if I catch this I wont surviveThank you again|1 Scores of thousands will die|0 You might find this SARSCoV2 climate studyhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020031220034728v1 interesting Its preprint but seems logical the data is fairly easy to trackTheres apparently an inverse relationship between highincreasing heathumidity and its R0 in places where they tracked the initial outbreaks in Hubei where I guess its easier to track certain conditions at the start of an outbreak than when it goes full blown epidemicpandemic Im not a scientist Just interested|1 Hong Kong was the first place where panic buying toilet paper happened We have to thank the protest networks for educating the community on proper hygiene and donating masks cleaning supplies and hand sanitizers to at risk groups In fact a lot of people already had masks due to participation in protests and networks set up to funnel donations to where they are most neededThe microbiologist being interviewed is portraying the response of the Chinese and Hong Kong governments as positive because he would likely be banned from entering mainland China if he said anything different But the vast majority of people in Hong Kong think the government has done a poor job of handling the virus such as refusing to close the borders and not giving sufficient protective equipment to medical professionals and attribute the low infection rates to community led responses|0 No look at the law passed by the house that reddit is championing It applies to small business not big business|1 PandemismBleepbloop Im a bot This portmanteauhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPortmanteau was created from the phrase pandemic tourism FAQshttpswwwredditcomaxl72o FeedbackhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetojamcowlsubjectPORTMANTEAUBOTfeedback OptouthttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetoPORTMANTEAUBOTsubjectOPTOUTREQUEST|1 Do it anyway and accept the fine Itll either be waived under the emergency circumstances or crowdfunded as a thank you|1 I would like to see a distribution by age Smokers die younger there are not many 80yo smokers this virus causes more symptoms in older persons this could just be a difference in age groups smokers vs non smokers|0 My local church gets rid of the shared chalice through all of coldflu season I wish this was standard for all Catholic Churches But also parents need to stay at home if their kids are sick and not drag them to church I cant count the number of times Ive seen kids hacking all over everything in church|1 I understand what are the chances of dying for each age group but is there solid stats on the chances of needing to be hospitalized for each age group|1 I dont give a damn if they say they can That doesnt mean a damn thing|1 And you havent done a formal mask fitA N95 mask fit requires wearing a hood that they spray smelly stuff into while you wear the mask Then they have you jog in place and repeat a sentence on a card If you smell any of the stuff you have to get a different type of mask or size This is required for all healthcare workers|1 This shit is gonna get us all killed I hope someone gets sued over this BS|0 I read that they went from producing 20 million n95 masks a day before the crisis to 100mday currentlyPls save us China |0 Not a triage expert but I dont think saying sorry youre over this arbitrary age so you dont get treatment Is triage|1 She failed to prepare but her fragile ego wont allow her to acknowledge her own failure so she lashes out at those with more foresight|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Where are the unions of these workers in planesPilots unions are subject to the railway labor act an old law that forbids strikes as the first line of action without government approval|0 WHO said lab tests show no effect of warm weather to this virusDo you have a source for that|0 SARs disappeared because it was contained by taking measuresYeah guess its just people x200BDamn man youre cold bro|0 not only are their phones some of the best ever their whole company is one of the best|1 Weve done what we could The virus here spread too fast literally after 3 days from the initial case in Codogno where we found the first patient half of the town was sick At that point testing or not was not important at all and we started the isolation of the town The problem here is not the tests we could not imagine that from that town it would spread all over the North of the country this fast Its useless to test people if 200 sick persons runs into an hospital with 50 beds At that point you start to realize that everyone is already infected Still we should have closed everything faster and isolate yes but doing tests just to show that mortality rate is lower it seems pretty useless at this point to me|0 Thank you for being logical|1 I was able to find one solitary flat pack and its not the antibac kind I suppose its better than nothing Keeping in hand for back up|0 Considering OP cant provide a source I agree|0 Thats two weeks Mean incubation 5 days mean symptoms to serious mean 9 days|0 They are literally spraying the streets They do this normally with water to get dust and air pollution out of the air But they have in some places now started to add a low concentration disinfectant|0 Has there been any cases of healthy 1830 year olds that have gotten the virus and died|0 Most of those are just vague claims and promising discoveries A bunch of them arent even American|1 no shit i was wondering if the risk would linger good looks thanks fr|0 There Or afraid of the mask theyre afraid of the sick person wearing it|0 They got a waiver from their fda and did it as legally as they could|1 You need a good mood in Spain we refill the groceries every day It seems that in Italy the same you can go run and this things but you cant go yo hung with your friends so what you need is mental strenght and go on|1 Too bad my partner and I already almost certainly got it and got over it it would be nice to know for sureKing County says IDK talk to your doctor for a test doctor says IDK talk to King County for a testGood thing there arent many confirmed cases in Washington or people might think this is serious s|0 Ive never read a more appropriate case of we refuse the right to serve anyone|0 Mitt will now ride on top of the car and let the dog sit inside|1 They are so far down the corporate socialist rabbit hole that they are popping out the other side and proposing apparently left wing policies THAT got me laughing Not commenting on its accuracy just the image|1 Thank God|1 I got the same advice as a kid to do some moderate excercise when I came down with pneumonia Went to an intense 3h long tennis training on a day where I felt okish when I came home I had a fever of 40 and fainted in the hallway had to go to the ER after Turns out moderate was the key word there|1 Youre BPD and you trust your own assessment of a situation|1 Share it with friends and family This is something that needs to be spread|1 Apologies for this being so long but maybe youll learn something Do you live in America Do you really know or have you really seen any of what you are talking about Naw didnt think so Right now since we are SUPPOSED to be talking about the Corona Virus it is the USA who is inventing the VACCINE to help squelch this terrible influenza Youre WelcomeYour statements are incorrect The USA is NOT an aggressive bully but we do have an allergy to Communist and Islamist lies and aggression Especially Russia which has never stopped being aggressive bullies since WWII and is constantly arming MiddleEastern Islamist despots It is Russia who is behind the horrors in Syria Causing the huge immigrant problem in Europe NOT the USA Sir as a German you should KNOW about East Germany You should KNOW about the contrasts between living standards in West vs East Germany so dont be a fool about the REAL world problem which is the tiresome neverending Russian and Chinese expansionism and goals of WORLD CONTROL If you dont know about life in East Germany prior to the mid70s then you better talk to some older former East Germans about it Cus bub that was just a tiny drop in the bucket of communist humanrights violationsCommunist countries know that they cannot gain population or strength by ATTRACTION They have NO attractive characteristics other than lies They have NO freedom of speech or the right to carry a weapon or the right to own a profitable private business In America we have the intangible magnificent thing called FREEDOM AND EVERY LIVING HUMAN WANTS IT We desire to be masters of our own ship not have some insane brainwashed Government staff educating us from when we are infants WE have the freedom to learn what is right to hear what is bad and good Then we have the right to choose for ourselves what to eat wear what kind of work we do how many children we want to have how much money we need to make that BTW is why we have the most RICH PEOPLE per capita than anyplace in the WORLD and especially how we worship our higher power It is NOT Russia or China or Venezuela who has immigrants breaking laws and lying and sneaking to GET INTO their countries Please use some plain common sense If A then B So many of you seem to have lost the ability to cogitate in your mad rush to regurgitate PC propagandaIt is the inherent freedom and open capitalistic society in the USA as well as the respect of basic humanity THAT is what the USA is all about While of course always Carrying a big stick to protect this special freedom and thriving economy and superior human rights record from those jealous controlling hateful tyrannical despotic countries who would love nothing more than to steal our wealth and put us ALL into concentration camps America also has a deep awe and respect for God and freedom of religion that makes the USA unique and special on the entire planet earth We know God and we love GOD not a government And were free to openly criticize our government right to their faces Furthermore we will always push back and fight back against those foreign enemys despots and ignorant propagandists who like to cast aspersions against the American people and the American Way of Life for we know they are wrong We Americans are happily living in and enjoying this great freedom and prosperity and get sick and tired of uninformed people talking trash about it The only life frustration or unhappiness my family experiences is the frustration of dealing with poorly made cheap crummy Chinese made products that break one minute after using them And there WILL be a lashback against these cheaply made productsFar far too many of you are quick to regurgitate communist andor antiAmerican propaganda and when that proves weak its identity politics It is dumb just dumb You all better lift up and look under the dirty worn rug where your misinformation comes from Beware you Reddit people There are MANY outright lies abounding on this site|1 Thats what Im seeing They just pulled a sick person off of a flight in Winnipeg Im in Minnesota and they dont even have enough masks for emergency workers as far as I can tell I think they think they can just let it rage through Its pissing me off|0 Lots of chinese go to Thailand for sex tourism worrying that it could spread in the flesh markets and be brought back all over the world that way|0 Now is the time to call your representatives and senators and demand they hold the administration accountable for this and push for testing to be donehttpswwwhousegovrepresentativesfindyourrepresentative|0 What are things like for pets such as cats and dogs|1 My understanding is if youre young and dont have other health problems theres almost 0 chance of death Ofc people should still be cautious so we can reduce the chances of spread to vulnerable folks as much as possible but I dont think its a potentially lethal concern for most people|0 Some people have maxedout cards or no credit at all|1 Lol 4 months ago for no reason i stopped because i felt like i needed to Guess sometimes life through you some clues haha|1 Trump saw the opportunity for photo ops The gist of the matter is that he did this against the CDCs advice|1 Do we have any case reports like this on whats going on with the patients who are truly asymptomatic There were several on the Diamond Princess and surely theyve been studied closely|1 If youve really had that many health issues in the past year and are also so casual about the threat it is going to break you when you get itThat said I sincerely hope Im wrong|1 And he needed to run it by God so he took all day praying|1 LOL monitoring youre clearly delusional 5 hours I posted in this thread minimized the reddit app and then I went out for dinner 5pm EST now that Im back 10pm I opened the app and the thread was still here because I didnt do a full shutdown of the app It reloaded I saw your comment I replied How fucking difficult was it to think that through Are you a flat earther too Anti vax Cause your lack of intelligence is showing|1 I didnt see ANYONE say the dog was sick The fact is the dog having it on its nose and then rubbing its nose on a second person could spread the virus You can sit in denial all day on that but its a fact There doesnt have to be a proven dog to human transmission Do you also believe that you cant catch it on doorknobs until someone somewhere was proven to catch it from a doorknob We know how viruses work and if you touch an infected surface you risk catching it|0 I had a minor dry cough this morning and it made me paranoid lol But it didnt worsen|1 This is shocking but not shocking|0 You forgot that their small kid was in the hospital Cant remember if it was something to do with Coronavirus but imagine parents leaving their kid in the hospital to then get quantiened in another country Such shitty parentsBut Denmark is closed down as of yesterday evening Every school restaurant library and so on is closed|0 If only there were a candidate pushing to reform healthcare in the US for purposes JUST LIKE THIS |1 Okay suppose it would take a whole month for my lab to be ready to do thisWeve already had two months to do it|1 I dont think China should be antagonized I just think it is interesting the WHO pretty much declares that in case of an outbreak this is what is expected If it gets worse we should expect closed cities all over the world|1 stop being selfish your want to travel is less important than my need to have affordable housing|0 Not really Switzerland is a Federation that gives a lot of autonomy to States Cantons and MunicipalityBasically this is a Federation mandate for the whole country banning all gathering of more than 1000 people for smaller gathering the Canton will decide with the event organizer and the municipality on a case by case basisMost events even smaller concerts and theaters spectacles are being cancelled|0 I have been at home in the center of the storm for two months to prevent epidemics Now most of the areas around Wuhan have not reported new cases for ten days Home isolation is so difficult but I believe it is necessary to stop proliferation In countries where cases are rapidly rising many people are still unaware of the horrific effects of corona After the crisis in Wuhan people should have stepped up prevention But now it looks like many of the same stories are happening|0 Antivirals are very specific things that bind to specific proteins on a specific virus inactivating them you just dont understand the basics about virologyimmunologyYour definition is too narrow for this context and insisting on using it lends credence to the arrogance argumenthttpswwwmerriamwebstercomdictionaryantiviralhttpswwwmerriamwebstercomdictionaryantiviralDefinition of antiviralEntry 1 of 21 medical acting effective or directed against viruseshttpswwwmerriamwebstercomdictionaryvirus |0 Scientists tracking the spread ofthe coronavirusreported on Monday that for every confirmed case there are most likely another five to 10 people in the community with undetected infections These oftenmilder cases are on average about half as infectious as confirmed ones but are responsible for nearly 80 percent of new casesaccording to the report which was based on data from ChinaThe researchers modeled the viruss natural spread in China before the government instituted a travel ban and an aggressive testing policy During that time from December of last year through late January about 6 in 7 cases went undetected That situation is analogous to the current state of affairs in the United States and other Western countries where tests are not widely available the researchers saidIf we have 3500 confirmed cases in the US you might be looking at 35000 in reality said Jeffrey Shaman an epidemiologist at Columbia University and the senior author of the new report which was posted by the journal ScienceThe report is among the first to address two of the most pressing questions about the pandemic How many people are walking around with unrecognized infections and how infectious are they As American policymakers have begun taking more aggressive measures to slow transmission such ascanceling events and closing restaurants access to tests for the virus has been difficult or nonexistent in much of the countryIn a conference call with reporters on Monday scientists representing more than a dozen institutions tracking the disease stressed the importance of increased testingIt is crucial to implement widescale testing said Dr Elizabeth Halloran a professor of biostatistics at the University of Washington and a senior researcher at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center And its important to develop inexpensive tests so people can get tested whenever they need to beThe new analysis drew on documented infections in China and mobility data as well as a model of social interaction across the population to estimate the numbers of undocumented cases as well as infection rates It found that after the Chinese governmentlocked down the center of the outbreak on Jan 23and began widespread testing the picture changed drastically In time testing identified some 60 percent of positive cases up from 14 percentThe paper included authors from five institutions including Imperial College London Tsinghua University in Beijing and the University of Hong Kong|1 Haha we in my developed country didnt even manage to secure masks for the doctors And 25000 people just came back from Italy where they were on holidays and possibly around 10000 just went there this weekend and are coming back in a week I think poorer countries could teach us lol|1 I hope youre sitting down for this but hes not even close to the worst in the bunch|0 just stop the blood flow while letting the rest of the organs keep doing their job|0 Why do you think it wont infect 20 million peopleIt is more contagious than flu|0 Well life hasnt exactly gotten better since season 8 now has it|0 My sister took in to prevent malaria when we went to South Africa She did not have a great reaction She was very anxious couldnt sleep had no appetite and when she did sleep she had the craziest dreams She stopped taking it and that all went away|0 Feelings Cant hurt any feelings The notices in both ON and BC have been so vague as to be useless|0 Where else am I supposed to get my bat kebobsx200BLook up the videos of the wuhan market it will make you want to vomit|1 Itll probably work similar to certain states EIC where your increased refund credit is taxable on your next years return|1 Yep exponential growth is a bitch I expect most hospitals with ICUs in the US will be overwhelmed in 6 weeks with hospitals in ski ties with early outbreaks being overwhelmed in the next week|1 I was there in the 90s Dont remember how often my checks were but they were like 4050 since they took taxes out for the tips as wellSo congrats Darden employees you got something roughly equal to nothing Sure as hell not enough to cover even the briefest of nonCorona illness and sure as hell not that|1 Im so sorry I truly dont know what to say but to hang in there and stay strong Were all thinking of you in Italy and how difficult these times are for you all Would it help you to keep a diary so that you have somewhere to put all your thoughts and frustrations I really hope things go back to normal for you and your loved ones and your communities soon|1 This is exactly why we must all take our own personalextreme measures No matter what the government saywe will not copeIts the speed of spread that is going to catch us outThe hit to the NHS is going to be hard and fastWe are being very complacent even still Even if say 10of us get it so say 7 millionwhich is pretty optimistic in itselfthen 20 of that figure getting serious is 14 million Then approx 5 of that figure getting critical is 70000 needing ICU and oxygenand they said the other day we could push it to maybe 5000 And thats all based on just 10 of the population getting it It will likely be higher so yeah take your own personal extreme measures to make sure you arent infected in the first place|1 Take the fucking care of the disabilities and children What the fuck is wrong with you China|0 Lord give me strength|1 Rest In Peace to all the dead|0 Its the right thing to do If you dont need medical aid going to medical centers will cause extra stress Just stay home and isolate Knowing how many people have the virus isnt necessary At this point its out We need to just do what we can to prevent others from getting sick and put the smallest strain on healthcare as possible|0 You should if you can Most cases dont feel very serious|1 Nooo dont forget the furry friend|1 The question is wrong It is based on bad assumtions You have to take into account exponential growth and time from symtoms to death|0 Having been to Taiwan I imagine it is more broad than this If it is going to spread it already has These tourist areas were probably all reached via their rail system Unless they were bussed around Who knows|1 Lol Americans|1 Problem is if youve waited so long that youre forced to go to ER youre probably about to die anyways oh and by the way youve just been walking around past month infecting everyone around you Reading this subreddit of people self quarantining themselves drives me insane like noone in the US can afford to do that Id be out of leave in a week|0 As Ive said When it comes to spread zombie hobbiests who have played to many games or watched to many movies knows more about this spread of the virus than many so called doctorsAlmost a month ago I had heavy discussion with a friend I said we should close the borders to China and any country that doesnt do the same And that the kill rate was too highAnd he was just like even if it comes here its not that bad and people gets killed by many other thingsWell ofcourse that is your opinion when you literally have been in a car crash were the person next to you didnt surviveAnd of course doctors say the same when they used to horrible stuff happening around them But for normal people eg 400 friends on FB 12 people on their friend list getting killed is not normalSo people who have had a ton of bad stuff happen to these they know should seriously just be quietReminds me of that Seth Rogan movie where he freaks out because he doesnt know a single person who have been killed by stuff before other than grandparents by the old agePeople should understand stuff arent just what stuff seems to be|0 And if you launch a shaky country into panic any number of central and south American countries Africa countries etc you could easily set off an actual military strike Spook the right unstable leader and it could be oh that city in another country near our country has infections fires rocket strike that should kill itEconomic instability can easily help foster such conditions|0 Nah no one calls it that Its red envelope red packet hongbao or laisee the Cantonese wordThose red bag results are probably from machine translation since the bao in hongbao means bag in the typical bag sense as well|0 I have that same philosophy There are only 2 of us in the house but I always buy the Scott 20 rolls pack and usually get 2 mostly so I never have to buy it again during the year haha My dad used to buy like that when I was younger 6 people and 4 of us were female so I was so used to getting toilet paper that way I never thought not to Now Im grateful because I know people who are actually out and cant find it so I can share some|1 Remember if you are young and moderately fit you probably have a less than 1 chance of developing major symptoms let alone anything worseIANAD but stay home isolate yourself just in case take flu meds stay hydrated watch some video or read a book and see it through You will be fineOn the other hand if you are in your 50s and very unfit like me consider updating your will|1 But were in the delay phase delay doing anything useful D|0 If democrats elect Biden Trump will win again Democrats always go on about how the guy is an idiot after repeatedly losing to him and the republicans for 4 years and have learnt nothing Underestimating your opponent is a fatal mistake|0 South Korea implemented wide spread testing at a very early stage They can trace all infections and thus take actionIt is way past this stage in the US There are too many infected And more importantly the infections can no longer be traced In a perfect world where there are unlimited test which we can take daily because there is no guarantee that a negative test today doesnt mean you not going to get infected tomorrow and staff maybe it would make sense But the reality is that there is not enough staff or tests So the message needs to be clear right now Feeling sick Stay home Even when in doubt Otherwise we are taking resources away from those that really need it The ones that are seriously ill Because there will be many in the coming weeks|0 Its possible that a large number of that 5 million were nonresidents visiting family given CNY was going on at the time|1 Thats certainly a possibility but we dont know enough about how contagious or how fatal it is to say for sure I was just providing perspective to the post saying that SARS rocked Canada by saying that influenza has rocked it significantly harder every year|0 Not necessarily It can take a long time for symptoms to grow serious and the virus can gestate for up to 3 weeks If its been circulating for 6 weeks only the first 3 generations of carriers may be showing symptoms and only the first two generations may have been symptomatic long enough for serious complications to develop|0 The Korean method Basically lie about it Many Asian countries with the exception of Singapore are notorious for bullshitting Look at Japans criminal justice system or Koreas everything|0 Yea you breath out unfiltered air in an respirator Whereas a surgical mask would catch some of the virus particles you might sneeze or cough outSo if you have any symptoms then a surgical mask is good to wear at home to protect family members whilst you self quarantine|1 Condolences to his wife and son May his wife recover This is heartbreaking an entire family is nearly wiped out|0 You know you can just find a contact email for one of the people that wrote the article and just ask them for it 99 of the cases they would be happy to send it to you and even discuss it if they arent busy Every time Ive asked for one Ive received itTheres also scihub and library genesis if you dont mind breaking copyright laws if they even apply wherever you live|1 My flus not really that bad but Im having this awful diahrrea OMG you cant imagine how nasty it isBoss Get well soon Click|1 Glad I am really pissing you off Must be hard to see your argument melting like the Wicked Witch of the West eh|0 That order must go into effect to save lives but at the same time I am afraid lots of jobs going to be lost|0 Back in 2003 we were hit hard by SARS and weve had 17 years to prep for the next big one|0 Lets hope not She has a nice calming way of addressing the public We could use that right now|1 perhaps but Trump being possibly sick is a silver lining in a shit tub filled with turds like you|0 Looks like shes getting the death rate from deathworld population except it would be closer to 26 using her 19B figure but not everyone was infected more like 500M 50M dead out of 500M infected is a death rate of 10 not 25 And some put it at 50100M which make the death rate even higher|0 Dont wanna scare ya but its getting close to time to avoid pubs even if you dont have cases there yet|0 If I had an elective surgery scheduled Id be postponing it right now anyway|0 Question would it be effective to wear the cloth face masks that can be washed and sanitized|1 Thats correct However only a few countries have enough recoveries to calculate significant estimates|1 It is not a safe practice the droplets from opening their mouth can travel and affect other people Chinese doctors had already recommended against this when same thing happened in Wuhan I guess people either did not pay attention or just do not learn|0 More like 1820|1 Also note that EU is a block and unless the majority of its members take an action a single member doing something specific means very little to the outcomeIe it is great that Italy canceling flights but if FranceGermanySwitzerland did not cancel them people simply change their means of transportation to reach the same destination regardless if not by connecting flights then via bullet trains etc since there are no effective border checkpoints between EU countries Switzerland as of last few yearsAt the end of the day I think EU as a whole needs to make a decision to fight with this thing but given the bureaucracy and how hard to agree on things between 27 countries that is a huge challenge|1 Ruh roh we are gonna be so fucked lol|0 Thats not what the study showed at all It showed that surgical masks and n95 masks are equally effective at preventing the fluThey werent even looking at effectiveness of masks vs without masks|1 They learned that fast from Wuhan and Diamond Princess huh|1 Galveston Omaha and Spokane are not exactly thriving busy hubs of intranational activity Id think Dallas Chicago and Seattle would better fit your tinfoilhat conspiracy theory|1 Pritty much that the last square of doubling would have been more rice than all the sand on all the beaches or something like that|1 Weird how you pay attention to some information while ignoring the overwhelmingly larger amount of evidence that would bruise your fragile know it all ego|0 So could you enlighten to into understanding why 99 of confirmed cases are reported as coronavirus positive but not COVID19 or SARSCov2 positive Coronavirus exist in the world natural already and the most common of them is the common cold So when people get tested are they tested for the common cold and test positive for coronavirus but not COVID19|1 It isnt a good thing Its just that all alternatives are worse|0 If Italy are being dishonest with their numbers they arent doing a very good job of it|0 What are the chances of people with Cornovirus getting the severe phenomonia that I have heard about|0 You should still get a flu shot because flu is widespread right now and having one or both would be terribly panic inducing and possibly fatal|0 It happens with the flu as well I know since my grandma died from the flu this year when it ravaged her assisted care home She was in really bad shape before and was on the tail end of a UTI when it hit It is more just business as usual for the really old and frail It doesnt take much to for their systems to collapse|0 Oh really A city smaller than Los Angeles having the advantage of hot and humid weather got over 100 cases and still increasing India with 200 times the population and similar weather got only 30 cases so far|1 Thats great I tested negative for the flu today and have to get tested drive thru tomorrow Results take 57 days while I drive myself crazy|0 Ah finally the full beauty of the system reveals itself|1 I apologize for my tone and if I added to your suffering If its any consolation Im quite positive Ill be experiencing the same within a couple weeks I hope to see improvement too but I think its wrong to put false hopes or false fears in natural fluctuations in the statisticsWhat has become very clear statistically is that absent certain measures this virus does spread exponentially and by overwhelming available care can have a significant fatality rate Those measures are to find cases early by a combination of aggressive contact tracing of initial cases and broad public screening and then isolate those cases from their close contactsI think false hopes based on one days fluctuation in the data work against convincing people of the importance of taking those measures|1 Ah that makes sense Thats a relief to hear No virus resistant bleach Thank you for your reply and please stay safe and healthy buddy|1 Of course its pure bullshit to say China will get a second wave Why should it come back We are still in winter so its not like they only overcame it due to the weatherTake my pick I choose the approach of Taiwan and Hong Kong Life carries on almostnormal there It is not lock down like in Northern Italy or Hubei We have evidence you dont have to let this virus go through your population but Boris and HanCOCK are ignoring it|0 Bruh Im in ireland and they closed schools when there were like 30 confirmed cases|1 No proof it will get worse Dont scare people|0 Testing is going smooth we have the best people|1 I am curious how you rationalize sponsored by US What did I miss in the paper|1 Can you really blame people though I mean how many new virus have shown up the last decade that they tried to panic people over H1N1 SARS MERS ebola H5N1 none of which were world enders or really worse then the regular flu|0 Common cold isnt caused by a specific virus its caused by many different viruses most of them being rhinoviruses The fact that you mentioned specifically coronavirus rules out all types that cause the common cold since if someone is talking about the common cold they wouldnt care what specific virus caused it Most of the time thats impossible to know anyway|0 FF7R on April 10th Plenty of good media out there to keep us busy from selfimposed NEET caves|1 Our 1k test has been proven unreliable multiple times They definitely win|1 Well theyre foreign so theyll have to be quarantined for at least 3 weeks to make sure the virus has disappeared off them s hopefully|1 Relax its a troll account|1 Theres a rising post about a grocer who made new pricing for hand sanitizer normal price for one bottle 10x the price for a second bottle Perhaps following a similar model to create an optional ration could help reduce hoarding|1 dont worry hell 100 get it with that mentality if not corona then karma|1 Uptodate specifically states The WHO and CDC recommend glucocorticoids not be used in patients with COVID19 pneumonia unless there are other indications eg exacerbation of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease Glucocorticoids have been associated with an increased risk for mortality in patients with influenza and delayed viral clearance in patients with Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus MERSCoV infection Although they were widely used in management of severe acute respiratory syndrome SARS there was no good evidence for benefit and there was persuasive evidence of adverse short and longterm harm|0 Sorry I think I did something super stupid Think he was just linking to someone elses review Because it doesnt look like himThe trip to Sanya I missed the forward Weibo part when translating|0 Yup I have to lie on a ton of forms that I live in my previous home because my current home an RV on some land doesnt have a physical address Great job USA|1 No there would be an increase in ICU patients but that has not happened This is a weird sort of wishful thinking thing that lots of people are saying Its wishful thinking because it would mean it is very mild Which I guess is possible if it had mutated but I dont think so its just not hit yet outside of a few people who are probably carrying it|0 Someone ELI5 please|1 Would you be willing to share those links We are in western MI and my wife works in a hospital that doesnt seem too concerned and I want to get her the equipment she needs Also and Im sorry if this is a stupid question but are suits like this reusable Could I sterilize it when she gets home Is that a thing Thanks for your time and wishing you your family friends colleagues and community all the best|1 Bullshit Vast majority of the preexisting conditions are direct result of individuals lifestyle Sure you have some rare diseases that cause issues in individuals but when we are talking obesityrates of 40 it has nothing to do with aging and eveything to do with choices you made Accept responsibility for your actions and fix your life|1 I tested neg for the flu|0 Not only bankruptcies but disabilities Forty percent of SARS survivors ten years later were unable to return to workNot a lot of workingage 1860 people are going to die but a hell of a lot of them I ran some numbers and came up with 8 million with a large margin of error since theres a lot we dont know are going to end up disabled and be unable to work the 40hour week with the 21stcentury plague of performance surveillance making slacking or just being sick impossible and thus making our 40h comparable to 70h in the 3martini glory days a corporate job demands|0 they dont have a rapid flu test|1 This is misinformation The 80 of cases include folks who get mild pneumonia but do not need hospitalization for oxygen support I really hope you wouldnt go to work with pneumonia Most cases were classified as mild 81 ie nonpneumonia and mild pneumonia httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762130|1 Id love to know more Do you have material you can DM me or something|1 And now they seem intent on requiring every dollar of those funds With decisions like this|1 I dealt with FEMA at length during Sandy Yeah you have a better chance calling on Ghostbusters in my experience|1 One of my family members was in prison for murder I still love him You dont just stop|0 Hate that shit Its become second nature for me to just repeatedly scream SPEAK WITH A REPRESENTATIVE at my phone until I finally get my way lol|0 It will Majority of the Senate has already praised the bill on social media They might even do a emergency meeting from recess tomorrow to pass it And Trump already plans to approve it|1 I like the idea of a few dedicated days a year for all the game devs to pull out the big guns but it doesnt necessarily have to be E3|1 considering that the virus is still accelerating i highly doubt those plans|0 I think it is hard to make broad statements over media coverage for this outbreak While there certainly has been a lot of media coverage much of this has varied in quality Certainly it is newsworthy when a neverseenbefore infection emerges in one part of the world and starts to march around the globe Perhaps because many parts of the world are not yet impacted directly from the virus it may seem overhyped Or perhaps people are consuming more sensationalist media Or perhaps in this era more than any before we have the ability to amplify misinformation Im not sure But I do think this is newsworthy even beyond the medicalpublic health front There are significant economic and sociopolitical impacts related to COVID19 that are worth exploringIsaac Bogoch MD|1 OMG my college once had the local CDC come in to give a talk about this On Halloween There was a giant corpselooking cake served I went as a joke but ended up actually learning a lot about the emergency response system|0 Not everyones body can fight an infectionSuddenly everyone has an antivax approach Youd think most people would know better|1 No he literally just called it a hoax at his rally Im sorry you people are so dumb|0 Or bat shit crazy|0 Yeah but I have to work with their irresponsible asses and then my kids and I are in danger|0 I wouldnt want to be tested because theyll drag me away to a place where Id definitely get infected|0 They are witches or magicians Only if they have magic hands could they cure Covid19 I wish they would film people there who have tested positive for the virus then next day make them take the test to see if theyre really cured|1 Trust me we have taught her about hand washing and she washes hands and hand sanitizer frequently Definitely as soon as she comes out of class But they post pictures of her day on an app we see Shes within 6 feet of a classmate in essentially every single one The idea that whether or not we wash her hands when she comes out of class will affect whether she transmits COVID to me and my wife seems vanishingly small It also seems like if its not to spread to every parent in the school that once the prevalence gets even somewhat higher in the community the school will have to be closed and this is in Northern California so we have no idea what the actual prevalence is could be hundreds or thousands of cases in our region already|1 True But this is Spring break right now many businesses close around this time of year to let the workers go to their families to celebrate Chinese New Year|1 What I was thinking was instead of holing up at home lets quarantine everyone at work and do 12hr patriotic shifts I meant it some what as a joke but after 50m got quarantined nothing is for sure fiction anymore|0 I dont think that anyone really knows the exact number but there are so many global players playing with numbers that everyones just lost Though I dont think that CCP is giving true numbers either we can know that it is spreading and it will end up in your community eventually Be prepared|1 The odds of all four dieing with 2 case fatality rate is Well extremely unlikely Will add this to the list of shit that doesnt add upAnyone care to share a realistic estimate of the actual death toll in Wuhan|0 Fk them they should give everyone freedom and let eveyone travel where they want|1 jUsT tHe fLu BrO|0 Heres a sneak peek of rCoronavirus using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirustopsorttoptyear of the year1 Vice News Producer on returning to the US through JFK Airport from Italy after reporting on Coronavirus outbreak epicenter I walked right through US customs They didnt ask me where in Italy I went or if I came into contact with sick people They didnt ask me anythinghttpstwittercomjulialindaustatus1235714275752267776 3170 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfe5ovzvicenewsproduceronreturningtotheusthrough 2 A 98yearold patient recovered from coronavirus in Chinahttpstwittercomeluniversocomstatus1234617854026227712s20 1135 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcl241a98yearoldpatientrecoveredfromcoronavirusin 3 A person who attended a gathering that included the President and Vice President has tested positive for the new coronavirus officials saidhttpsmeconomictimescomnewsinternationalworldnewsattendeeatpoliticalsummitfeaturingtrumphascoronavirusarticleshow74535274cms 84 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsff8uxzapersonwhoattendedagatheringthatincludedIm a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|1 That isnt true Trump is currently cutting the future budget of CDC by 15 Someone else in power wouldnt have made such changes and could have made different decisions day after day meaning we could be in a totally different situation right nowYoure trying to give him a getoutofincompetencefree card|0 The virus causes pneumonia and that is what kills you Pneumonia is one of the top ways old people die|0 Coronavirus is a type of virus this one isnt THE coronavirus This one is currently being called the 2019 Novelnew Coronavirus There are many different type and strains This one is a brand new variant to the human populationThink back to the Swine Flu H1N1 H1N1 is a type of the influenza virus There are others like H3N2 H7N2 H7N9 etcThe impact and immunity to different types are different When there is a brand new type introduced into the human population there is generally no immunity and the characteristics of the virus are unknown|0 Does the testing rate in anyway change the actual infected rateWhat rule or law is preventing more widespread testing in the USWhen was that rulelawregulation put in placeAgain does it change in anyway the number of people actually with Covid19 Does Covid19 actually care what the number reported is Who does Why is the number wanted to be known or not known What major statistic is changed by having an artificially low infected rate Does the death rate go up or down if the number of detected cases goes up it goes down Why who would benefit from an artificially high death rate Does an artificially high death rate make it more or less likely to Start a mass panic Who benefits from a mass panic|0 I like how youre thinking|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes Over 80s have a 23 fatality rate with 20 29s having a 02 Im not a mathematician and I dont know the average age of the population but its very possible that it could be a factor of 10 yes|1 There is NO therapeutic dose Hypothetically with extremely small viral loads any amount can make a difference|0 Nirenberg our mayor is supposedly pissed though I only heard about this via local news|0 no problem is even if the disease time was precisely two weeks you can self quarantine for two weeks youre sure you dont have the virus than what you get out of the quarantine and you can catch it in the street from anybody self quarantine is just a way to buy time at this point what people think will happen well keep self quarantining till this things dies out in china not gonna happen our current society can probably tolerate a pandemic easier than it can tolerate a six month shutdown|1 infected are getting tested immediately and treated with antivirals immediately in South Korea Its why theyre avoiding Italy type issues Why cant we get these kind of drugs in the USA|0 Sure but most folks Ive met are more concerned with rent than food|1 Aggravated epidemic thats a hell of a charge|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 flu season is always in winter and this corona virus will likely peak coming into next autumnwinter Cold weather is when viruses tend to be a bigger issue Flu is almost non existent in summer months|0 Sexy talk|1 I think deep down they know that youre right Some people need someone to blame when theyre wrong|0 The CIA is already trying to find proof that this is a biological weapon that originated from the Wuhan Virology institute which btw was demolished and moved shortly before Wuhan was quanrantined If they succeed US would have a legitimate reason for a blockade of China and removal of Chinese banks from the International monetary systems There are already 4 carrier strike groups concentrating around the Korean peninsula They are also calling for a regime change in North Korea which is the last geopolitical and military buffer for China against a land based invasion So you do the math China is has shown to the international community it is incapable of behaving and now the case is being made to completely encircle China so that a regime change may take place Already the US policy makers are calling for the independence of Chinas 56 ethnic groups They are looking to apply extreme sanctions on China They are looking to unify the Korean peninsula which will put Beijing within not only put them in range for conventional airstrikes but land invasionNorth Korea is a Chinas Archilles heel|0 Damn that line about dozing off for 25 hoursThats wild|0 honestly im surprised they finally admitted hes been testedno chance they admit hes positive if he is|1 The largest reason was the franchise ownership was so hard up for cash that they couldnt afford to get new uniforms if they changed the namelogo|0 They know they have very good Intel on this It is all coming down Most Americans will not survive this|1 Actually in most of the Western world healthcare is in fact free|1 There is plenty of blame to go around China is definitely not blameless Neither is the rest of the worldNote though that China faced a totally different harder to understand and a much quicker moving kind of emergency an unknown disease quickly spreading through the countryThe rest of the world failed at a more straightforward task an epidemic is spreading Likely to hit your country real soon now Get prepared Main parameters were known to experts by the end of JanuaryAlso it seems very possible that the worldwide spread was already unavoidable wo drastic measure as early as late January Eg one of the main theories about Washington State outbreak in US is that patient zero came to US in mid January|0 Good get the fuck out of my country you damn snowbirds|0 Yes Some feel relieved about this since less people will go out another way to reduce chances of infection The problem is how can everyone getting enough food they cant just announce something ban something an not coming up with a solution|1 Its also a good way to lower the mouths to feed in an apocalypse|1 Fox News what a piece of shit|0 well overdue Its ALWAYS time to bust out the Vegeta memes|1 This is speculation by someone maybe just a fearmongering doctor The reinfection issue seems to be like a game of broken telephone also ironically called Chinese whispers When first reported some Chinese official seemed to be saying that we cannot assume that infection will confer lostlasting protection Or that scientists cannot rule out the possibility of reinfection But then the media spun that as reinfection is possible And with SARS research some failed vaccines not natural infection caused worse disease in animal infection models So someone combined and stretched the paranoia further to speculate that reinfection with COVID19 is not only possible but more deadlyUltimate there have been no reportedverified cases of human reinfection with either SARS or SARS2 COVID19 Given that plasma from recovered patients appears to be helpful in treating infected patients having antibodies is probably protective in general Of course there could always be freak cases where this isnt the case|0 I kind of understand how she must feel though After a certain point you just get sick of dealing with the bullshit of not dying from things Shes made some kids shes done the work and its not like theres a point to living if youre not going to live If I was staring down my 70s in a body thats already had cancer 3 times Id feel the same|0 As a nurse that actually may come in contact this illness and has gone through training Im just trying to combat the misinformation out here And theres a shit ton of it|0 I see what you mean I was just hoping that the percentage is high because its not actually 15 of all infected that need care its actually 15 of the more serious cases Others will mild or manageable symptoms are not being counted as positive|1 Im an inpatient hospice nurse in Florida and weve seen an influx of patients coming in from the local ICUs with respiratory symptoms We usually get a definitive diagnosis on the patient before admission but now most of them just say some BS rando dx like unspecified respiratory failureone patient came in with a diagnosis of acute chronic respiratory infection of unspecified area Wha No protocol in place yet but we did get an email that said to stay home if we feel sickyet we cant call in because were short staffed anyway The single box of N95s we had in the Med room is totally empty still sitting on the rack But its hospice so|0 I just read that linked article and I do not automatically assume he contracted the virus over a 2 hour delay in Wuhan airport It is certainly possible but he was in that other city dont recall for 10 days before he had symptoms We have no clear idea of what the incuabtion period is only 214 days he could have come into contact from someone who was previously near the outbreak and went to that city where he spent 10 days There could be several scenarios Not enough information|1 Would you rather let the virus run its course and wreak havoc just to be proven wrong|0 What a horrible video Zoom is one and stats second How can he compare stats and appear so respectful while ignoring the simple fact that tons of corona cases are unreported today If you only added 200000 mild and unreported to the mix of numbers we have today mortality drops to 1|0 I just want to document my observations I live in the USA Watched a lot of television about the stock marketThe financial television focused heavily on South Korea on day 1 of the stock drop Shipping and supply chain management Italy and the fashion industry were barely mentionedDay 2 was a lot more about USA preparation CDC HHS and FDA leadership spoke about the pandemic|1 Thank you|1 Late phase amplification Honestly first 2 targets is probably enough for valid testing since they are specific to this virus My 2 cents on it|1 Yes you should be impressed that the biggest company in the world is offering a minimum wage of 17 Because no other company on planet earth is|1 As others have said hes likely using it as a means to help his reelection Look at me I got us a vaccine I saved us|1 The people need to revolt against the CCP but its going to be a tough battle|0 Especially after the criticism of Trumps travel bans|0 So they have given up on containment and have accepted that everyone is getting it|1 This is a great question sorry I missed it beforeIts something we are all worried about and discussing Not in the least because many of us married to other healthcare professionals and apart from personal risk we worry about spreading to other healthcare sites and to patients Aside from the usual hand hygeine I have taken to showering as soon as I get home before I say hello to wife kids or pet This is obviously pragmatic and not evidence basedMore seriously there are whisperings in our Trust about having front line doctors stay in hospital accommodation for the duration of the outbreak though I would dearly love to see where they will create these living spaces from|1 and at that point the shit really will have hit the fan Which is why officials are supposed to act as our responsible agents Whoops|1 It seems as though we are fucked|0 your restaurants isnt CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE Neither are banks|1 No one knows where the peak is until youre on the other side of it Italy is just a educated guess at this point|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswww3nhkorjpnewshtml20200315k10012332111000htmlutmintwordcontentslistitems001wordresultE696B0E59E8BE382B3E383ADE3838AE382A6E382A4E383ABE382B9I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The Netherlands take notice about this please|1 Yes But some of my friends still say that these numbers are just making people panic No shit Get yalls head out of the sand|0 Thank you I needed that boost of confidence|1 Thats a good step Can those private labs report|1 If they end up positive then we can trace their previous movements which can help leading us to others that may be infected and not know it or show symptoms|1 just because theyre owned by DM doesnt mean theyre bollocks dm for all of its shit doesnt mean everything is shit|0 100 agree this is the most scary thing about the virus Peolle that are sick can do all they can to self isolate but if supposed healthy people are still going to work when they are infected this will cause most of the spread I think|0 LolAnything that is cancellable is to be cancelled according to the NHS Any job that is workable must be worked from home If you company is not doing that right now Tell your boss that the shareholders and their investment will be gone in a few months and the will be sued for workplace Injury from covid 19|0 GIVE US PAY|0 But like they said we should prepare for 70 of us to get it anyways and 80 of us will have mild symptoms Is that really worth potentially losing 15k and postponing my marriage|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Westerner here and everyone knows that was true with older generations and hopes younger generations may break free of the dictatorship And the feed to the dogs thing comes from an escaped NK defector who spent time in prison camp in addition to forced labor forced abortions eating rats and plenty of other wonderful things|1 laughs in n95|1 Bruh thats nowhere near the worst case scenarioWorst case scenario is that we end up like the fucking Olmecs who died from back to back epidemics|1 True its all possible|1 I mean thats nice that it can happen it wont happen but its nice that it can happen|1 They didnt give consent I mean we are talking about a virus and not sex so Im not sure why consent would even play a role in this but thats all I can come up with|0 Im highly skeptical This tiny company also claims to have vaccines for H5N1 anthrax Dengue Fever Swine Flu MERS and Zika They appear to be simply inserting the genetic code for a virus in to a totally different type of virus one which isnt very virulentSounds like something youd see in the very scammy end of the VC or grant pool|0 Seems like you are preparing for doomsday Where are you from You plan to eat meat if so where are you going to get that Or other ingredients for foodAlso protip canned tuna contains mercury|0 Parts of it are COMPLETELY locked down or so Ive been told Other parts are open stillEdit this is unconfirmed it seems my friend lied Use Italy as a better example|1 Word I have quarantined my daughter and myself for 2 weeks basically because we had the sniffles I had a little chest pain and we both had a little breathing issue It basically lasted like a day and we feel fine now but were holed up Fuck it I dont want to infect anyone else if what we had was cv|0 As an American it feels like there has been a steep drop off in terms of videos and information coming out of Wuhan Did they shut down the internet or something The first couple of days there were tons of pictures and accounts showing the hospitals and sick people kn the streets|0 That is crazy and really sad Poor doctors especially with the hours and conditions theyre exposed to|0 Its most likely not the case but are these fibers dangerous to inhale in like carbon tubules|0 Worth noting that the Chinese numbers were not so different for severecritical For example the 1549 age group accounted for 41httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2002032The reason people think its just old people is that nearly all age breakdowns focus on the mortality rate with hospital care rather than the ICU rateBy the way once there is no space in the ICUs the old ICU rate is basically the new mortality rate FunEDIT Ive had the same response a few times now so to clarify this is the of seriouscritical patients who are aged 1549 Its not the of patients aged 1549 who are expected to progress to seriouscritical|1 Chinese CDC doesnt want you to worry about ithttpswwwglobaltimescncontent1180514shtml|0 You guys mask shame Why would someone feel shameful for wearing a mask|0 Wait Bob Evans is still open Fuck yeah|0 Thanks It suck Im referring to FC Cincinnatis March 21st game in my post actually Boss also came around and handed out tickets to the home opener on this Saturday the 14thI took them but told the girlfriend we cant go not worth the risk Im returning the tickets to the boss tomorrow|1 I mean in that situation I wouldnt mind at all so long as it is semi effective|1 I dont know how much of that is true For the sake of argument lets say they are all true I ask you so what There are accusations that China is responsible for spreading the virus to the world In that view one should praise China for being overly draconian because if they dont then the pandemic will be worse But if they do people scream human rights You cant have it both way Choose will you eat the cake or will you have the cake|1 This is smart|1 Im guessing theyll only announce an extension once its gets closer to the April 30 deadline My office is business as usual just no work related travel or meetings with outside people and more disenfecting There was no encouragement or even mention of WFH Half of my office isnt even really able to WFH due to their duties and were not paperless Im glad you took a hard stance to not go into your office|0 Im still struggling to believe this story is true Did these fuckers really try and buy the rights to a vaccine while the world is in the grip of pandemic There has to be some mistake right|0 Dont forget its rule under a totalitarian regime that imposes arbitrary laws to forcefully trap people in the country|0 Thanks for sharing your experience with us I think its calming a lot of us who are so afraid of the unknownYou should have your wife check out the IG busytoddler if she gets stuck on ideas Tons of easy games and learning activities you can come up with around the house Best of luck to you and your family|1 No but we sure as hell deserve better|0 Oh come on Trump have shown such altruistic instincts so much interest in caring about other people he would never ever bask in lies from his close advisor for a brief moment of autosatisfaction Such fake news|1 thank you for proactively caring for yourself as you care for others good luck to you|1 The question is what came first Did the virus cause more depletion in severe cases or did cases become severe because of existing low t cells|0 Youre missing the point of what I said The entire reason I said to trust your own judgment is to not listen to opinions from people that dont know what theyre talking about because theres so much information out there thats blatantly false So use your judgment when evaluating opinions or advice if its not from a credible source ie Trump maybe look elsewhere or to a qualified medical professional who is giving advice that makes sense The fact that you think Trumps judgment could be equal to or worse than a random person tells me all I need to know about you and yeah maybe for you dont trust your own judgment|1 Following your reference to gentrifying and shrinking Chinatown in Manhattan or even the much higher populated Chinese population in Flushing the City and Tristate area still must have a good number of relatively affluent Wuhanese or Zhejiangese natives working on Wall St in IT biotechpharma in Jersey etc It would be surprising if hardly any returned home for CNY Andor relatives who visited for CNY Nope they may not all take the 7 line tofro Queens Maybe its just lucky no ones reportedly been infected|1 Rate of community transmission has been relatively lowHow do you know They are testing a very small sample size of people with travel history from certain countries Today if you arrive in india from US and have the symptoms they will still not test you Similarly people with Flu like symptoms but no travel history will not be tested either What you report in terms of numbers is within what you test What you dont test goes undetected and infects others Only God knows at what point they will start testing all symptomatic patients with or without travel history They will never perhaps and at some point it will not be deemed necessary because manymost will have been infected This is better than Iran This is like US or UK or Germany But these 3 could have tested but still didnt So India is not alone in this Without testing community transmission will not be found out till the very last leg when they check the samples of multiple Pneumonia patientsI just hope i am wrong and my country actually has a plan|1 You do see who fucked this whole thing up the whole time right The government Private industry has been the only saving grace when they have defied orders I want everyone to have affordable health insurance too but I dont have a ton of confidence in anything they do right now|1 Its a more contagious flu There fixed it|0 Yep literally no one is taking my worrying serious and saying the media is blowing it out of proportion|0 No this statement is just a statement not anything else Its not a paper and not a printed article Its like a kind of news or messages The Lancet has its own website and the website is more like a media|1 You are absolutely rightThere are major consequences to shutting them downThese people wont be working or attending school or daycare anyway once theyre sick though or are under quarantineSituation sucks for sure|0 Theres misinformation floating around in Africa and the dispora that Black people are immune to Corona A prominent celebrity getting sick will educate a lot of people|0 There is one issue that cannot be over stated When the peak hits we will have millions inflected Its almost a givenSure 80 will be fine but the 20 is way more thousands more than available hospital beds and ventilators We just dont have it So people with covid 19 that are old and have maybe other underlying conditions will end up dying on the floor we just dont have the hospital bedsGovernor Como put it right we need the army corps of engineers to make temporary hospitals to help with this flowThis is really the main concern a very good chance that most of the 20 will die because we have no beds for them|1 The question is if China approves this drug would the US fast track its approval as well assuming that it has not identified major side effects in its own much smaller trial|1 I think human behavior has been more or less the same and predictable since modern humans started existingWe hate other nations races generations etc over our differences but if we were to switch places and experiences wed turn out the same way they didI wonder what the younger generations will hate millennials for|0 He already made 100k off reselling items He doesnt need the rest if hes not allowed to sell anymoreDonation was his only option Dude should face a fine and jail time|1 Seeing as SARS was famously spread in a hotel through the aerosolized shits of the only infected person there and that all it took was negative pressure in the hallway to spread it all over the hallway I imagine after the first few cases started becoming symptomatic that the ship got covered in their germs Everything they touch everywhere they cough wherever their aerosolized shits whaft there is a load of corona waiting to make its way onto someones hands then into their mouth or eyes|0 Press 3 for New Zealand billionaire bunker 3D telehealth conference Press 4 for Michael Pencil White House YouTube stream Press 5 to pay respects|1 a real crisis Yesthe real crisis No Dealing with corona is the more urgent thing the economic issues of which there will be many can be dealt with afterwards|0 Kids need to learn early that you get up and go to work no matter what Profits first Bankers need their bonuses|1 Yeah but what about elderly people They are the most at risk and often know the least about technology These paywalls are unconscionable and should be disabled|0 America has also discovered the virus in patients who they thought died from the flu Heartbreaking|0 Slavery is very real in the middle east|0 Actually it wont be The environmental effects of bleach are surprisingly chill it breaks down into sodium chloride literally salt I wouldnt water your crops with it but one good rainstorm and its gone|1 Bloody remoaners the virus won just accept it|1 Im glad to see Spain taking the necessary lockdown measures to mitigate coronavirus Just a few days ago it seemed the government wasnt going to do anything about it and now the problem is being taken very seriously|0 Its a myth that hot weathers gonna slow this thing downThe 1918 did some mighty fine killing in April May and June|0 Then do it with better data Id love to see it Or can you only shit on others|1 South Korea reported 107 new cases as of March 14 bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the country to 8086 According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 5 additional deaths occurred bringing the death to 72|0 In BC they wont even test you if you have a mild case or dont fit testing criteria They are prioritizing testing for people who need itThats why it is safe to assume there is community spread cases and why hand washing not touching your face staying at home if you are sick and social distancing are so important|1 Lets just keep our fingers crossed one of those monkeys doesnt start sneezingVery bad thing to have happen if were in a movie|1 Yea we hunted down almost all of them this far If they dont take the test we fine them 3000|1 Remember the indian preprint that proved that the virus was lab made because it had a similar protein as HIV of course they removed it after a few days but at that time loads of doomers har proof that it was lab made That does not means that one should stop them but one can be weary about them|0 Unfortunately that paper only references surface viability time This is the first paper Ive seen specific to SARSCoV2 airborne survival timeTheir methodology looks like it will withstand peer review to meWell see But it almost certainly remains in the air for longer than 3 hours|1 Take care of you as well and do update if you can|1 Get the audiobook It has a great cast and you can probably get it for free online through your local libraryhttpswwwoverdrivecommedia109964worldwarz|1 But I guess my argument is that this was not highly likely to harm anyone There was the low chance that he was infected and that some health professionals I read somewhere I dont remember where saying that touching the mic was a low priority risk or something Definitely someone can sue someone for anything But I dont think this would even result in a settlement|0 Rest In Peace Such a shame people are dying due to being good people|1 Why would he need to Defend the decision Whod actually attack it It seems like a great idea|1 100 not an expert here but I have heard that recent data indicates the virus can be spread through breath Take this worth a grain of salt until you readhear it from a more reliable source than me but be aware nonethelessx200BEdit I do not think that was a stupid question at all|0 Are they being reported on the states public health department website That is where I would expect to see the most accurate data for each state If its not accurately being displayed there well then|1 second Please donate via channels that have clear information on 1 how they transport the resources into Wuhan 2 how they directly send them to hospitals 3 a clear manifesto of spending money|1 If I didnt have a good job thats exactly where I would be Just wait until New York becomes zombieland A lot of those folks will bail|0 Well they didnt talk about confinement but then we had a surprise with the autocertification|1 A kid I work with is going on vacation with her family to Disney World in two weeks Or at least thats what they think right now Havent brought it up yet but am definitely privately questioning the wisdom at this pointas well as my desire to be around them when they get back Fml|1 Yep my mothers doctor shamed her for wearing one into the surgery|0 I have heard that many grocery stores are looking for help currently|1 2 months food and 1000s of rounds of ammo Water will be problematic|0 Yep There are so many factors that young people arent seeing|1 Someone asked him what the test was like and he clearly had no idea|1 Thoughts and prayers are a waste of everyones time|0 Well the general treatment procedure in NL is if you arent dead its not treatment worthy The universal drug paracetamol helps against everything I even got recommended once to eat licorice for bronchitis|1 i was thinking exacly that Pence is the scape for when the shit hits the second fan|1 Although it could work in theory There is no real evidence it works as a prophylactic In fact after you take it for a few months it could actually suppress your immune system which may be the last thing you want Countries that prescribe it give it for 5 to 10 days and no more It could have some really bad side effects if you take it for the long term You dont know if or when you will get the virus so if you take it prophylactically you could wind up taking it for much longer than you should China is giving massive doses of chloroquine that could be dangerous Luckily for you a new paper suggests that Hydroxychloroquine is a lot more effective and could be used to treat the virus at reasonable doses just a few pills a day for five days httpsacademicoupcomcidadvancearticledoi101093cidciaa2375801998fbclidIwAR1lO6DzaTuaTdDaH2EX70UaVFbMDebI3Y9ct584s1Pbzt3oAdhQ823IqA My advice would be to hold off on selfmedicating Everybody knows its coming so you can stay at home and distance yourself socially Wear a mask when you go out for groceries and wash your hands vigourously as soon as you get home Take vitamin D which is proven to boost the immune system against respiratory viruses Keep your immune system fit by getting plenty of sleep eating well getting a moderate amount of exercise by walking alone for an hour a day and reduce stress by not reading about the virus so much All you have to do is hold on until doctors have a better idea of how to treat this thing If it turns out thats the drug they will be able to tell you how to use it properly If it turns out to be something else they will give that to you instead|1 Not sure about Singapore but Japan and Soth Korea have closed schools and continued rigorous contact tracing and testing The UKs numbers will end up looking good but only because were not testing people unless they get admitted to hospital anymore Were also not contact tracing and isolating close contacts so it will just spread like wildfire|1 Thats one of the many questions that need to be answered asap and god help us if its bad news|1 I agree It takes a very long time to recover from what Ive seen and to be confirmed recovered ie consistently test negative for the virus|0 Categorically false Alberta alone has tested thousands of people in the last week and 4300 people total 4265 of which have been negative They are still conducting home tests and contact tracing all of which is very labour intensive This situation is extremely serious and dangerous but people need to stop saying that nothing is being done You are just feeding peoples panic and making it worse|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 During ABC World News tonight it seemed like half the broadcast was related to the coronavirus and in the lower thirds graphic it said BUY TWO WEEKS WORTH OF GROCERIES I would be surprised if grocery stores arent slammed this weekend|1 They only look out for themselves and their yearly bonuses|1 That sounds like MethylEthylKetone or MEK I sincerely hope youre not using that as hand sanitizer|1 I have a question There has been some concern over sulphurdioxide emissions coming from around Wuhan Theres an outside theory that its the government burning bodies to contain the disease but theres also a steel plant southeast outside of Wuhan that may just be conducting operations My question is given the level of everything being locked down how likely is it that that plant is still operational and still has staff free enough to come and go to operate it|1 There will be a lot of deaths on this presidents hands What a complete failure of government|0 Yeah Id be game for that Get that Assasins Creed vibe going and put a crimp in both covid19 and the annual influenza to boot|1 I wonder if thats what Venice looked like before motorized boats|1 No This is referring to the LAST point in the red line not referring the typical second peak seen in January when schools restart|0 Learned a new word Got to relieve frustration and turn it into potential action |0 She has gotten worse started getting a sore throat and is having more difficulty breathing Chest pain has increased But is still able to breath on her own just having trouble moving around too muchI havent noticed much difference Still short of breath but it seems to have plateaued I hope it stays that waypShes getting tested tomorrow I wasnt approved for testing but the doc said I most likely have it as my symptoms are identical to what they have been seeing in patients|0 VERY anecdotal and VERY alarmistCan we please add this to the subreddit description|1 I work at 3M and am surprised we arent actually 1 They are made in South Dakota I believe for 3M|1 There are significant network effects that come from concentration Not against your idea just suggesting it may be more expensive in some cases than youd expect|1 Should be in prison for this amount of negligence|0 Hell ya|0 I was one of those weird prepper guys Until we lost power for a week in winter during an ice storm Wasnt so weird after that I had the only house with a working Xbox and cooked food|0 So Chinese numbers cant be trusted|0 Reddit sucks lol|1 Idk man so far this thing has followed the exact path people were predicting a month ago and might have kept my family and I a bit safer since I basically convinced my high risk parents to begin isolating themselves weeks before any level of government did and whatta you know it was spreading in my city that whole time|1 To get people to stay home if cities are locked down they probably will need the National Guard and the extra troops The local police arent enoughNo think about it National Guard only needed in Urban Centers To keep everyone else home they just need to stop selling gasoline to anyone who isnt an Essential Personnel|0 Is it fair to say most believe the overall casualty rate will be sub 4 Because thats what Ive heard a lot of Thats still extremely high when most people say its a worse flucold Im with you though I actually think China has far many more infected than theyre letting on|0 It has done both Ive seen stuff here that couldnt be correct as well Sometimes its just a case of if you throw a hundred darts at a board blindlyBut then there are well informed and cautious people here who arent throwing blind Anyway be sceptic check for plausibility and sources Do not ignore or undervalue expert opinion|1 Honestly its one of the best things to happen we need to stop depending on China for everything|1 Yeah my wife just had surgery we waited a year for She was 85 lbs by the time they got her in Sometimes people waited too long to make the correct call|1 Most grandparents are gonna spend time around their grandkids anyway if they live close enough to be a daily caretaker for them In my community its even somewhat common for grandparents to live in the same home with the kids Public gatherings of thousands of people are being highly discouraged or outright canceled and banned Every high school in a major city is a public gathering of thousands of people 5 days a week and that demographic is least likely to show severe symptoms or develop them quickly therefore accelerating the spread rapidly Cancelling a few festivals or the local pro sports teams games while 30 public high schools keep meeting every day is almost pointless|0 easy decision who do you think is showing up to the casino at times like this addicts mostly probably middle aged and older not in the best health overweight etc im oyoure basically walking into a population much more likely to have the disease than the general population|0 Nah Ill just use the data that has been presented that took smoking history into account No need to hypothesize and use my imagination like you didIf you want to continue argue science I have posted relevant studies supporting my claims You are arguing what you feel is right|0 Thank you so much for the suggestions I hadnt thought of the humidifier but Ill definitely use it I appreciate the kind words take care|1 Hes sorry for being American|0 I sure hope so It hasnt came to a mandatory closure yet but it feels like it will|1 TDI is a state thing and you would just get it like unemployment insurance plus there is unemployment insurance it might take time but the company would not win not to mention the extremely bad PR it would generate|0 Ur ok boomer|1 And why do only Asians die from corona while every other race has mild symptoms and recover in a few days|0 This shouldnt be a surpriseTB of both forms is a strain on your immune systems with the active destroying your lungs If your immune system is already strained fighting TB which it does in the latent form as well then its gonna have less to combat Coronavirus with Not to mention they are both intracelluar pathogens so would have even greater overlap in immune defence mechanisms|1 I will offer only the simplest of advice from someone who is in a similar emotional state have lots going on outside of this fakakta pandemic Try to get outside if you can A simple walk around even better if theres a park or woods It really does wonders If not I understand because Im not always up for that eitherx200BBe well|1 I was bemused today at the supermarket while picking up a largeish 500 special order of tinned foods and water The store manager knew exactly what was up The random lady at the customer service desk was super flustered by my 200th tin of nutritious calorierich fish The teenager loading cars in the parking lot said they are moving an unusually large volume of water YMMVedit typo|1 We will see how long stores are kept open thanks you too|1 Not a native speaker Thank you Much better than the war shit|0 I would pick a popular commercial design and copy it as close as reasonableIP rights be damned This isnt the right time to reinvent medical devices from scratch|1 Normalcy biasNormalcy bias or normality bias is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters and on a larger scale the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations About 70 of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disasterThe normalcy bias can manifest itself in various disasters ranging from car crashes to worldhistorical events It is hypothesized that the normalcy bias may be caused by the way the brain processes new information PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Your first sentence is true and they are supposed to call doctor with updates|1 Damn I would not want to be on the other side of the table from herBravo|0 The number of daily deaths has gone down tremendously though|1 Im in Cardiff and stores like Aldi and coops seem alright they keep restocking Tesco has limits on items We stocked up about 2 weeks ago to be ready if we had to self isolate but overall we can still get things alright|1 Everyone is going to get this eventually Theres no questioning thatYour logic is wrong when you say this Success we did it not a single Canadian has it we re open everything including the borders and boom 1 case gets in multiplies and we are back to where we startedRight now a substantial amount of Canadians already have it and are actively spreading it to everyone in the community The goal right now is to slow down the spreading by social distancing Staying Home Think of the Coronavirus as a ticket to a concert Right now everyone in Canada has received their ticket or will be receiving it soon as its only a matter of time Now think of the hospital as the venue If everyone received their ticket Coronavirus at the same time and went to the hospitalvenue the first night it would be an overloaded mess where no one could get care BUT if you spread out the dates to 2 or 3 months and everyone shows up in spread out intervals it would help the health care providers|1 Your implication that The Invisible Hand cant solve everything is offensive to my personal autonomy|0 Laughs in american|1 Why are we allowing chinese propaganda on the subwaycan we change the sign to Hey China thanks for creating and spreading this horrible virus while hiding the true scope of the issue and covering up every bit of negative news that comes out|0 You nailed it on the subtlety bit In a democracy they have to lie and trick you eloquently in a totalitarian government they just do everything blatantly because they dont have to be elected If you dont believe me look at proven US and UK population test|0 I couldnt find the numbers on Denmark but im pretty sure its the same low capacity there No countries are prepared for this and western democratic countries are probably worst equipped by handling something like this the way i see it It can look like there might be well over 100000 people who might die here in Norway alone If you think about it as soon as the capacity is overloaded at the hospitals here in Norway after the 1000nd patient who needs respiratory help to stay alive then people will drop dead all over the place EU countries can not be compared with China or any of the highly diciplined Asian countries like Japan and SouthKorea In China for instance they have all the resources they need to solve the problem on the spot by sending staff and equipment from all the other parts of their country while isolating entire citys like Wuhan where the outbreak started and China is at the same time extremly well organized and disciplined same with Japan and SKorea These numbers estimated here in Norway on the infection rate are based directly on the Chinese numbers this was officially stated and this is in my opinion a huge mistake by our governmenthealth care organization i can bet this number of 22 million infected will be much higher here in Norway its probably gonna be at least 3 million if not more and by adding these numbers toghether Lets say cautiously 3 million infected by midsummer in JuneJuly our government stated the outbreak will peak in May So by then we will most likely have 3 million infected and the fatality rate will most likely be much higher than those 370 we have now worldwide which has steadily been going up since the outbreak Even if 370 out of 3 million infected here in Norway will not make it we will have a death toll of 111000 people|0 Secondary infection maybe Bacterial infections are pretty common after viral pneumonia|1 In America we shall all be dancing to Doja Cats Say So Your local annoying neighbor who blasts his stereo on Fridays will be on standby|0 They closed the universities in EmiliaRomagna I study there and they just announced it For the nonItalians here EmiliaRomagna is just south of Lombardy Here hoping for this to end quickly|1 Springbrook elementary is the elementary school in westerly where the preschooler lives You dont think there is any likelihood they have siblings or that preschooler would have any exposure to anyone at that elementary school People dont realize how quick something like this can spread since symptoms dont show for some time They also dont get how wide of a spread just one vector can have when it has a high virulence I stand by my plausible theory that it came back via the cruise spread via kids in school then made the jump to the player Wed only be positive with RNA analysis|1 I found a cute pattern herehttpswwwcraftpassioncomfacemasksewingpatternWhat I did was I went to the fabric store and got the cloth squares for quilting and oilskin waterproof tablecloth fabric I cut the pattern out of the oilskin sewed the two pieces together then used super glue to reinforce and seal the seam then sewed the middle of the outside cloth piece them same with inside cloth piece then sewed the top and bottom of the cloth pieces together with pattern facing each other Then flip that inside out and insert the waterproof piece inside the cloth Finish by sewing the sides|1 Our government doesnt care about us s|0 Should have It was in Chicago a few weeks ago Wisconsin and Indiana should have been war hing their neighbor|0 Had that one listed as Bradford area Corrected now thanks|1 Maybe thats why theres a delay its honestly been freaking me out but our health system is super fragile and everyones already angry at it Its some kind of deliberate slow roll because people will get pissed off Theres something off|0 Thanks for your insight and thankless effort in keeping individuals such as myself safe and alive It really is messed up that some of the most critical jobs in this country get treated like this No one should feel guilt or fear for prioritizing their own or families health and safety As scary as it is I do wonder what would happen if it ended up being a sucks to be you figure it out yourself situation It would at least bring reality to the forefront whether or not anything would be done is another question|0 since sometime in Decemberyou know I had the flu right around christmas which lasted one week immediately turned into double viral pneumonia in the bottom lobes of both my lungs and left me with bronchitis until early February When I presented at the local urgent care they didnt flu test me and just did a clinical diagnosis so I may never know but this has been on my mind as well Ive heard some rumblings that the genetic markers show that covid19 could have jumped to humans as early as October|1 Donald trump is a well known germaphobe so Ill be surprised if he actually got it He has a secret service agent whos one job is to carry a bottle of Purell|0 Your church or churches does not make up the religion as a whole Im sorry yours did not change their rituals when the congregation is sick|0 That wall startin to look like a measure to protect Mexico|1 Good luck to you hope they handle it better compared to the diamond princess Guess itll be boring to read all day at some point|1 I work at a Cracker Barrel in Alabama The only advice we have been given is stay home if you feel sick Doesnt have to be a fever but you do need to feel sick Thankfully the general populace is staying well away As a dishwasher I have to touch peoples plates and food so I expect to feel symptoms soon Today I was twiddling ny thumbs waiting for enough dishes to wash We already have servers feeling poorly and self quarantining though they have seen a doctor and it may be a bad cold|0 Not true Our doctors are required to inform the epidemic center if they suspects the patient have Coronavirus regardless of whether they have travel history to China or not|0 Im no genius but that does not sound good|0 I took a flight from LHR London Heathrow to Geneva airport on sunday When we landed in Geneva they wouldnt let us out the plane and told us a group of ground staff were coming into the plane but werent telling us why My mum was thinking they were gonna come check our temperatures Turns out there was a suspected case of coronavirus on the flight which apparently was ALREADY KNOWN before the suspected person in question went on the flight which just baffles me People from row 29 to 34 had to stay on the plane was they were the closest to this person and the rest could leave i was row 28 lol The rest of us were sent to some sort of waiting room where we had to give our contact details in case in turn out this person did have the virus We were finally able to go through the immigration thing 2 HOURS after landing Weve had no contact so no news good news But it still baffles me that they would let her into the plane if she was already bloody suspected of having had the virus And im not someone whos panicking about the virus or who thinks theres any reason to panic but Id still rather avoid it and taking safety precautions is good therefore checking this person before they got on the plane would seem logical if they were already suspected of it I dont know I was angry anyway hahaha|1 What the Fuck is a Dow and how does it effect me|0 Where all did this flight attendant fly to after she was infected I would like to know The article below mentions that she was the attendant on a Feb 15 flight that had an infected church group on board httpsfox5sandiegocomnewscoronavirusflightattendantdiagnosedwithcoronavirusafterflightstola|0 4 cases total in NV 2 cases in Clark County that are at the VA hospital in North Vegas The officials here have legitimate concern about the tourism industry That is one of the problems with basing your entire state economy around one damn industry Due to this they are always trying to control narratives that might make the casinos look bad They did something similar with the Oct Harvest shooting information and they regularly try to hide the homeless issue by forcing people to live in the sewers there are literally thousands of people living in the sewers here and the recent law that criminalizes sleeping in public after 6 pm Sisolak is bungling this shit Clearly we have more than 4 total cases they are deliberately hiding the real numbers either by not releasing information they have or by flat out refusing to collect that information I mean wtf would they do if they followed CDC guidelines and told people over 60 to stop hanging out in enclosed public areas Casinos would lose millions but they might actually save some lives like your grandmothers But clearly they care more about money than saving lives|1 What is Macron doing I used to think he was a good guy but hes been really disappointing with all talks and no actions|0 My 60 yo coworker just flew to Hawaii for a week No one at my workplace seems to be taking this seriously|0 Yea I would be a lot more sure of how things are going if all confirmed cases were tied to certain people and locations but theres been quite a few of unknown origin|1 I wonder how this is gonna work in the cell phone video era Should be interesting|1 Really worst case scenario what happens Seriously what are you expecting Mortality rates are about as bad as the flu until you get into older or compromised people Keep it up|0 Yeah two gigs for this week and next were just cancelled for me yesterday Are selfemployed folks eligible for unemployment|0 He has a little army and you can still write names in on the ballot even if the Democratic party chooses BidenEdit He has already stated though he will band together and back who ever they choose|1 The team got tested after a player tested positive After those tests another player got positive results For a close knit group like that those tests needed to happen quickly after one person tested positive|1 Nice thanks alot|1 Pensions dont work like that|0 he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks and thats partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak and the president had made clear the lower the numbers on coronavirus the better for the president the better for his potential reelection this falltrump doesnt care about the American people he just wants low numbers10s of thousands of unnecessary deaths will come because of that narcissistic sociopaths lies and incompetence He needs to swing from a rope|0 Agreed maybe you can book a nice vacation to China and let us know how it is Hear Wuhan is lovely this time of year|1 No just refuting your point that I would cry over grocery stores being closed because clearly that is not an issue myself or my community will have You projected that onto me from whatever moral throne you think you belong on top of There is no reason for American citizens to be coming here and no reason for Canadian citizens to be going there right now Trade remains open this applies to everyone we have closed our borders with Why would you assume anyone would want borders closed to trade|0 Its a bit of a false dichotomy too the health of the public depends on the health of health professionals If you do get sick you really want there to be someone left to treat you ie not sick or quarantined themselves It is probably rational to slightly increase your own risk of infection if it means protecting the people who will care for you in the less likely case that you become seriously ill and need care|0 Once everything is said and done Id love to see the serological tests requested by family doctors during annual physicals in countries with universal healthcare to get a better look at the actual scope of the pandemic|1 I was playing the game about a week ago as of today they found coronavirus on a cruise ship its definitely plague inc and they just upgraded infectivity|1 Its true though 90 are retired|1 Every country save a few I think arent being honest about the s they have While also not making it clear their s will never be truly accurate Due to the characteristics of this virus|0 As if wed ever be told about a positive result|1 What is going to happen with this sub when Corona is defeated Or even worse if Corona defeated us|0 Yeah I agree Part of the reason for getting ready ahead of time isnt the virus but to not have to do it when shit goes fucking crazy and when shit starts running out due to supply line breakages Im not a prepper nor a doomsday guy I thought SARS was a joke but this is different Its the perfect storm of a virus in many ways|0 I live on Vancouver Island just a ferry ride from Vancouver My husband and I have been slowly stocking up for a month now We are now starting to selfisolate My friends have thought we are crazy but here we are with everything unfolding as we thought it would Dont understand why people couldnt see this coming|1 Unfortunately were all duct taped to the ride and our eyes stapled open Good luck may the universe favor you|1 I mean Hes not wrong|1 and the number of cases jumped 4ka day im still seeing the bottleneck|1 Raw and smackdown as well along with other promotions|1 ok thanks for clarifying I agree that I dont think it should be stickied for this reason and Im happy just posting a daily update for Ontarians|1 This NEEDS to happen to help contain spread however I worry he will back off it as too socialist in an election year At least until a more significant number of or a very prominent conservative dies or nearly does|1 Nah they have it right httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019technicalguidancenamingthecoronavirusdiseasecovid2019andthevirusthatcausesit|0 I feel for you guys I think Id quit if I were in your shoes Hope you stay safe|1 When reading scientific papers and deciding how much weight should be given to them its best to pay attention for certain important words like suchIn light of the high similarity between SARSCoV and SARSCoV2 it is quite likely that the potential neuroinvason of SARSCoV2 plays an important role in the acute respiratory failure of COVID19 patientsAccording to the complaints|1 A slightly warmer world will almost certainly be better for all life on Earth|1 Funny US never said thatThey said and I quote Even if there are cases next door the answer is no you do NOT need to get or wear any face maskssurgical masks N95 masks respirator masks or anything elseto protect yourself against the coronavirus Not only do you not need them you shouldnt wear them according to infection prevention specialist Eli Perencevich MDhttpmedicineuiowaeduinternalmedicineprofileeliperencevich a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowas College of MedicineEarlier Pence did admit there were irresponsible rhetoric I forgive them for being honest I think people will appreciate it as well Time to fight as a nation|1 Im confused is it really that deadly|0 It seems to be a total incompetence of government at all levelsBoth the WHO and the German health ministry have praised the Chinese Central Governments response to the outbreakhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200124chinadoinggoodjobincombatingvirusgermanministersayshttpswwwwhointdgspeechesdetailwhodirectorgeneralsstatementonihremergencycommitteeonnovelcoronavirusIt seems that the Wuhan local government was indeed incompetent though|0 They did Its half a million if not millions more infected and over 100000 dead They had a whistleblower state the real facts not to long ago and they made him disappear before changing all the numbers back I wish I could post my screenshot here|0 Lysol doesnt kill coronavirus better get Clorox|1 We need to be like Russia and arrest anyone who is infected but still decided to go out if they are showing symptoms and were told to self isolate but decided to go outside and talk to other people to get them infected|0 My sister is a doc at Mt Sinai in NYC and she has access to only one n95 mask because there is a shortage in part because people have been panic buying and STEALING MASKS FROM THE HOSPITAL Given these conditions average ppl should not be buying masks and it only makes sense to discourage it|0 Lots of office jobs in China are now going to be WFH WFH wasnt really popular in China but I think the decision makers saw the benefits of WFH recently with the outbreak|1 The government is a large scale leadership of a community Id definitely want my citycounty to at least consider its people Your mayor and your city council and other local govt should care about you Those are people you see at the local BBQ joint or at church|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 The scary thing is that it was right around 4000 a week ago Exponential growth is a bitch|0 Ohio has more universities tier 1 research no less per capita than any state in the union|0 But that was a problem still just last Thursday 5 days ago Doug Ford was telling people to travel during March breakPatty Hajdu literally said the same thing ON THE SAME DAY Ms Hajdu said Canadians should consider a staycation There are lots and lots of places in our country that many people have never been to and this would be a great time to stay home she saidAnd now our country has 400 cases|1 Yes healthcare is rationedThis is true in every healthcare system in the world but for some reason people dont seem to realize that its the caseBeyond the really obvious cases such as organ transplants there are plenty of other forms of care that are rationed in one way or another including patient transportation hospitalization surgeries and other intensive care If you think youre going to get a helicopter evacuation and a monthlong hospital stay because you broke your arm while working in the yard youre in for some serious disappointment regardless of what country you live in and what healthcare system youre underIm not sure why a communicable disease would be any different There absolutely is going to be some form of rationing based on a system of prioritization|1 Thanks I found this charthttpsprojectssfchroniclecom2020coronavirusmap updated six hours ago so I guess its what Ill stick with until I find better in California|1 I dont thinking going medieval with ideology helps anyone Id really like for humanity to move beyond draconian efforts to control populations install rigid arrogant conformists with limited access to information and provide broad sweeping ideological platforms for dictatorial rulers Im willing to bet that the base of humanity is willing to sacrifice some of themselves to see humanity evolve beyond these things Science is great but why cant we learn from history for a change|1 Thanks for the suggestions and info everyone Going to stay home and monitor Sore throat is getting pretty bad but no fever|0 Blame companies and their greed for that not the administration Hell he was mocked for starting a trade war with China|0 Im not tryna be that guy that criticizes the statistics but considering that a lot of people arent getting tested theres probably a lot more than 1000 recoveries|0 Im worried for you too It doesnt sound like theyre doing anything at all|0 If you have friends maybe the power of friendship can help you|1 I live in an Asian country with unrestricted flights to and from China with a massive Chinese tourism sectorI am pretty concerned|1 Thats one definition But Id wager that most 67 year olds at least in Italy are not at deaths door Probably still quite sharp enough mentally capable of some level of fitness Remember this dude was still working as a medical chief|1 Lol he just cant win Dumbasses on this sub decides who has it or not You guys are antisocial neckbeards not the world authority on truth|1 Thank you So outside the main cluster in the middle you have your own developing around you now|1 This is exactly what I needed to hear lol|1 too bad everyone was too offended by the idea of free money|0 Their lies as lso tore friends and families apart They caused deaths that could have been avoided as well I spent weeks trying to convince people of objective factdue to this when I could have better helped them prepareThe sky is blueMasks will help youBoth these are true|1 Travel will prob be meh though Service might be shitty because teams of employees might not all be there Cancelled events Bars and crowds could be more dismal and not social I could see nature traveling being nice Not having people filling up the trails and shit|0 I think were learning who our new American heroes are Lets remember who fought for us when this is all over|1 I seriously dont understand this Its not like the Cleveland clinic is full of uncorporative idiots Or any of the other private labs hospitals universities etc|0 They are only testing you if you have a doctors note that says you meet certain requirements Even then I was in line for 3 hours today only to get turned away without hearing anything from anyone This was my second time trying and being early to these tests|1 This is suspicious to me China has been falsely reporting the fatality rate since day one which we can see based on the fact that the fatality rate of COVID19 in other countries is around 5 it is much higher that what China had claimed China concluded many deaths as severe pneumonia rather than COVID19 which is why their numbers were so off Also there is a tremendous amount of censorship in China People who spoke up about the false reports were forced to take down their posts and retract their claims immediately There is even a video in early December with the translation showing evidence that the Chinese government was trying to keep this a secret for as long as possible With all of that said I do not trust this and I would not find comfort in this The infection is still rapidly spreading and even dangerously mutating which could make controlling this virus all that more difficult|0 I dont know who Im more disgusted with the band the government or the fans that attend|0 Its sad thats where weve come to What a country|0 This They arent paying what were they supposed to do lmao|1 It depends on your work culture office dynamics and personal preferenceI prefer going to work because I rely heavily on vocal and facetoface communication for multiteam multiproject collaborations I see a face of a person and know exactly what to do Today was the first day of WFH for everybody I had 15 teams chat streams and already feeling unnecessarily more stressed than usually Things wi get better over time Im just not wired that way at the moment|1 Also the US is being incredibly stupid about testing They arent actually testing all that much because testing here is stupidly expensive Insurance companies are throwing a bitch fit and nobody uninsured wants to pay north of 3k to get testedI suspect the US has a much higher infection count already but its just not recorded because of low amounts of testing compared to the population|0 A bum gun is a poor substitute for a Japanese bidet|0 The scary thing is people will see this as a sign the virus isnt dangerous Many arent going to get sick but some healthy people will Its essentially a lottery you dont want to enter or win|1 A patient in Illinois has tested positive for the coronavirus Cook County and state health officials said in a news release SaturdayPublic health officials are working to identify and actively monitor individuals who were in contact with the patient in an effort to reduce the risk of additional transmission officials said The state of Illinois will request CDC deploy a team to Illinois to support these effortsAdditional details about where the patient resides werent immediately available|1 They wont think youre crazy when auntie is dead and theyre safe and fed and the world is burning|0 Buy yourself a big 10KG bag of rice just in case Its cheap and it will last a while We also bought boxes with instant noodles indomie which are really cheap and last long I personally dont think stores will run out of food but there might come a moment you dont want to go outside unnecessarily|0 Lethargy muscle weakness persistent headache sudden confusion accompanying the regular symptoms of fever and cough will warrant immediate medical attention|0 6 They call for 24 inches and people start getting a little nutty sometimes And Ill never understand why its always milk bread and eggs that they go for I dont use any of these regularly but even if I did they seem like odd things to be concerned about running out of over the maybe couple days you might want to stay home Thats specific to minor snow events btw Im absolutely not knocking being prepared in general Just the insanity over an amount of snow theyll remove in a few hours is amazing|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I dont deny its possible but first order of concern is handling the crisis|0 Hahah that is normal it gets better though DOnce you do the reprogramming pblows you a Hersheys kissIm going to train myself actually coz Ive noticed that everytime i have to go pick up supplies my face starts itching Its unbelievable|1 Count me in If we blunt the peak now with aggressive action we can save thousands of lives Do it|1 Not going to argue against that|1 I agree Diverting or spreading out a critical care surge is going to require a multipronged effort Slow the progression of CV19 into the population and also smooth it out to avoid sudden spikes Then conserve existing resources by diverting nonessential care to external resources and defer elective procedures while simultaneously working the supply chain to increase the availability of critical gear a demand surge might exhaust firstI hadnt really thought about running out of specific subskills but its a great point One thing that may work in our favor is the idea that for atrisk patients CV19 is serious but not mysterious But Im an engineer not a doctor Do you think amplifying targeted skillsets can be accomplished quickly enough to help Also I dont know if youve seen this new CV19 Critical Care Guideline but do you think its directionally correct Specifically the conclusion overall the treatment is fundamentally the same as for treating any viral pneumonia That sounds kind of reassuring to me but I obviously dont know enough to form an opinion httpsemcritorgibccCOVID19 General Principle Avoid COVID19 Exceptionalism We know how to treat severe viral pneumonia and ARDS Weve been doing this for years There is not yet any compelling evidence that the fundamentals of treating COVID19 are substantially different from treating other forms of viral pneumonia eg influenza The essential strategy of treatment for COVID19 is supportive care which should be performed as it would be done for any patient with severe viral pneumonia For example if you were to simply treat the patient as if they had influenza minus the oseltamivir you would be doing an excellent job Below are some minor adjustments on the care that we provide which might optimize things a bit for treating COVID19 However overall the treatment is fundamentally the same as for treating any viral pneumonia|1 Yes of course its innacurate because we are not accounting for connecting flights But it certainly matches the international infection numbers better and explains why Thailand Korea and Japan have higher infection count than USA which has a larger Chinese diaspora than those countries I would say its much more relevant information than say a ranking of where all Chinese immigrants are not even from Wuhan|1 They are going to Costa Rica Peru and Argentina through Norwegian cruise lines but that is still really intense Its gonna happen|1 Damn washington post really not trying to quell any panic are they|0 Painters probably having trouble getting N95s right now |0 It does Thanks for the understanding |1 Yes this the amount of people I see who go into the ER because they have a cold or flu with no fever blows my mind Not only is it a wastetaking up time and resources but youre risking the chance of infecting other sick people at the hospital who do not need to get more ill|0 I mean yeah Maybe Apple being one of the largest companies in the world probably has more clout to get things done probably not a good measure of normal business lolIve been looking at the data released by shipping companies as a better measure of objective activity and right now they are all saying they cant continue as things are currently as low as 10 of normal capacityLets see how things pan out but Im sure well keep getting soon soon as the answer in the meantime|1 Well doneThis isnt about restricting rights or invading privacy with malicious intentits about protecting its population which seems to be bottom of the agenda for many countries Hopefully they do not have to invoke this law very much and the community will work together|1 Absolutely no one is England sees the Chineses as enemies|0 Wishing people would die a whole generation even is pretty disconcerting Im not a boomer but I certainly dont want my friends and relatives who are to perish Go get mental help|0 Please be responsible and safe Dont panic dont buy tons of food you dont need and most importantly be kind and decent to one another We get through national emergencies by treating each other like brothers and sisters not suspiciously Weve been through worse before|1 Were in Denmark right now but were leaving on Sunday and going back home to Germany who does fucking nothing Well they plan to close schools on March 20th which is a week away No clue why they dont follow Denmark and other countries Shut down now before it gets even worse Cant imagine going to work on Monday I take public transit for an hour and work with 40 different people|0 First rule of preparedness club Dont talk about preparedness club Trust me it is just easier that way|1 Welcome to America Its just 1600 or so with insurance if youre coveredOf course if you test positive and spend six weeks in the hospital that bill is going to be substantially larger unless measures are taken to distribute costs|1 its obviously fake so he probably meant 4chan|0 The CDC has recommended exactly thishttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovspecificgroupshighriskcomplicationshtml for quite some time now for Older people and people with severe chronic conditionsDuring a COVID19 outbreak in your communitystay homeas much as possible to further reduce your risk of being exposedThere has been and continues to be a disconnect between what public health officials say and do and what the political leadership says and does|0 Fuck that Giant Brain Super Vilain|1 those splurgers who got the balcony suites really lucked out relatively speaking the single best time to get a better cabin in cruise ship history|1 Definitely not well be able to find out tomorrow how helpful it can be|1 I am obviously biased but I think Taiwan is a good one to watch 400000 Taiwanese live and work in mainland China largely because of past administrations attempts to sell the country to the CCP combined with past administrations attempts to hold down wages by flooding the country with SE Asian migrant workers hmmmm stop me if this sounds familiar The current government the opposition party for the previous few decades finally voted into power after people got sick of the previous governments shit have been reversing that but its slow going hmmmm stop me if this sounds familiarAnyway theyre quarantining returnees but I doubt it will hold|0 Actually only 2 is already pretty much high|1 Ive been thinking the same thing lately Both parents and my only sibling all have multiple multiple risk factors I really cant see any of them suriving this I might be a family of one within a couple of months|0 Anyone can contribute Thank you for helping out|1 The prognosis of this disease is poor The survival of patients with pulmonary fibrosis is less than 5 years It is best to become involved with an academic center in the area where research on interstitial lung diseases is studied in order to receive the latest treatments These centers often are linked with a lung transplant program Clinical trials are the best way of treating this disease at this timehttpswwwmedicinenetcompulmonaryfibrosisarticlehtmhttpswwwmedicinenetcompulmonaryfibrosisarticlehtm SARS coronavirusinduced pulmonary fibrosis even permanent pulmonary damage including fibrosis as seen in SARS and MERS infections|1 I am experiencing it via a different path I had developed a serious condition requiring several operations after leaving work It was pure bad luck one after another I have spent the last two years recovering and been going through my retirement fund to pay bills I have a couple of months to go before I loose my home of 14 years|0 But then if a physical barrier to facial contact is whats required surgical mask or N95 is not needed Ski masks or any super hero mask will do A Jason mask will do all that and probably get you that little bit extra personal space as well Get a dozen and we could have them changed and washed everyday Personally Id go for the annon mask Another cog in the wheel has arrived at the office|1 I kinda have a feeling there is some stigma to wearing one in America Like its embarrassing All of a sudden you are a leper especially if youre Asian And get the side eyes Unless so many wear it that no one stands out|0 Its not useless if you choose to wear it alone Everyone who wears a mask lowers the courage required for others to wear them as well|1 Smart I have a box of gloves but not really using them yet Im on day 3 of not touching my face myself Ive been trying to get my older children anyone to stop doing it but theyre not a hypochondriac like myself|0 Great Then the fuck did they announce that was the plan on ThursdayNothing like an indecisive government to fill you with confidence|1 were all going to get it anyway might as well have some drinks|1 Id appreciate not getting abbreviations of them as well|1 According this CBS News Freedom of speech is afforded a much lower level of protection in an airport and airports have been able to suppress speech by arguing a need to reduce congestion or combat fraudThe government can also restrict free speech in the airport as long as they show that the restriction has a rational relationship to a legitimate government objective This is the lowest level of protection that can be afforded to free speech in the USSo in this case if the airport officials and I do believe it would fall under their jurisdiction were to claim that they did not want photos taken or shared because they mighy incite panic that would probably fall under a legitimate government objective But I doubt it could be argued that protecting privacy in an otherwise public space is a legitimate government objective or one tied to the security of the nation The airport should change their excuse if they want to suppress the sharing of information Whether the government should be allowed to suppress this sort of information in an effort to pacify the general public is another question entirelyhttpswwwcbsnewscomnewsusairportsaconstitutionaltwilightzone|0 Well played|1 Not sure if its considered pre existing but another condition that many Americans seem to be ignoring in all of this is obesity Being obesed can complicate the virus because it can disrupt your ability to breath properly in the case of this being a mostly respiratory diseaseAround 40 of Americans are obesed with many in that percentile having terrible diets and habitsSo with that being said its odd that many are convinced that its only the young wont be affected when many of our young have some form of condition that could be exacerbated by this diseasePersonally I have some form of asthma AND I have many family members with other conditions so Im well aware that none of us young old black white rich poor are truly immune and Im trying to stay on top of news without getting to anxious|1 An ICU rate of 1 for a disease that spreads as easily as the flu is a very big deal yes|1 Thats how my parents kind of feel right now they are in their 70s and I live with them and am in a high mortality demographic diabetic with COPD and I asked them curtail touristy stuff until this is better understood and under more control to stop ME from getting it and dying Im disabled so I dont work and have self quarantined at my house and yet today my mother is with her friends getting a tour of some fucking loofah farm and lunch at a touristy restaurant and Im like are you kidding me Ugh Im trying SO HARD not to get infected|1 This city is already on the brink All we talk about is the homelessness drugs crime and graffiti Thanks grow in the virus and Marshall law and itll make the LA Riots looked like preschool recess|0 httpswwwmercurynewscom20200131usdeclareshealthemergencybansmosttravelersfromchinahttpswwwmercurynewscom20200131usdeclareshealthemergencybansmosttravelersfromchina US declares health emergency bans most travelers from China Jan 31thThats fair Not to mention Huaweietc|0 He has put out quite a lot of youtube videos daily on the current situation regarding corona virus citing studies explaining the medical background he is claiming to be fact based only which is true as far as I can tell hes also giving advice on how to act eg wash your hands and giving some insights on how unready healthcare systems are for a pandemic|1 Having done debate and Model UN stuff in college Tucker uses those strategies a lot Hes by no means dumb even if I dont really care for him or agree with his politics A lot of his stuff is game plan that works against unprepared people|0 to play devils advocate NBA players travel around and interact with other people a lot more than normal people This means that if one of them has the virus when they travel they can spread it to new cities other players who travel to new cities etc|0 thank you for this and all you do|1 Always a choice my dude National guard isnt going to start welding doors shut that shit wont fly in this country|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 AFAIK though the tests returned false negatives positives for other forms of virus they were accurate on coronavirus|1 Trump said he stopped Coronavirus and has it containedWas he wrong Why would Gov Cuomo care about tests if Trump says its overs|0 Fortunately childrens was in network well be about 7k out of pocket which blew our budget but well be ok|1 Yeah I added that I need to check that out Im thinking they would be coming in right now Im not show the right time to look for them you cant exactly search But I could buy a flight from Milan to JFK tonight|1 No one quarantines entire cities and builds two hospitals in a week for the flu eitherThe OP asked for a prediction mine stands I think fewer sick Americans will seek testing until they are very sick out if fear they will be hospitalized thereby hampering containment|0 His shell is very tough and surrounds his turtle body with an extra layer of protection against Corona Virus|0 They are removing posts and comments from any members who have criticized the CCP or failed to praise the efforts of the CCP|0 How long do you suggest they do this for Such a drastic decision needs a specific risk bot n just a gut feeling|0 I am aware that I am speculating hence the tempered language You seem unaware that you are doing the same Neither of us is right One of us is just a little more arrogant about it|0 He shouldnt be sorry hes literally saving lives Yes I know he is causing hardships but were talking life and death|0 1 in 8 American workers work in the healthcare industry We largely cant work from home And the millions of us in cities take public transportation If the healthcare workers self isolated for 23 months there would be no hospitals for the sick patients to go to|0 Theyd be expensive and time consuming to install Also C19 is absurdly small Youd need robust small filters fitted Can they manufacture them quickly or do they need to be developed first|1 Thats not comforting at all|0 Im a liberal Whats funny is you jump to conclusions based on a user name Have you tried using your brain|1 httpstwittercomDavefox2status1237906382193438720The nba subreddit downvoted me for saying he should face manslaughter charges He issued an apology and no one has any issues with him |0 utim3333 found the link Thanks|1 Im around more Chinese people than Chinese relatives lol Despite two cases so far close to me Im just avoiding dense Chinatown markets and being more paranoid about hygiene There is a huge increase of people wearing masks cant really leave my house without seeing it now|1 You know whats crazy is that there is a test kit that the WHO approved and is currently using to confirm cases Even China has used millions of this test and South Korea are testing 10000 a day But because it is not made from the USA the USA wont use it lol It is not time to play who has the bigger dick right now and just accept the test the rest of the world is using|0 Maybe more than that The Case Fatality Rate is around 3 when the hospitals are relatively close to keeping up Wuhan with its emergency field hospitals Once the hospitals are overwhelmed all bets are offJust GOTTA flatten that curve|0 Bread isnt a thing for prepping though as its a perishable good Unless prepping for a snow storm because you need to make french toast|1 Im not misunderstanding He is making argument for why losing tons of lives is a good thing I am not spinning out at all lol|1 You do NOT deserve it Everyone Ive spoken too and even our Australian government feel compassion and deep concern for the people of China I feel your anguish|0 As far as Ive heard they have not gotten full emergency use disclosure outside of major cities in S Korea The test itself will have a certain rate of false positives due to cross reactivity of the test antibodies with antigenic epitopes present in closely related viruses That being said it would be good for basic screening and decrease the number of people needing full PCR testingThanks for bringing it back to my attention I hadnt checked on it since January as it hasnt been part of CDC and NIH updates|1 Im in a similar situation In the last two years unforeseen medical problems fucked me over so bad and set us back financially insanely We are finally starting to get back in our feet and now Im terrified Not of getting the virus but school being closed or my work being closed or being quarantined Im so fucked We all are This is unacceptable for a first world country Vote Vote Vote Vote Stay healthy and safe friend|0 Yes youre right Though I can buy plane tickets to everywhere except Hubei The new cases outside of Hubei are so low now and I have friends in other parts I feel safe enough to travel within China now|1 Shes scared I have someone in my family that flat out said this shit scares me I dont want to hear about it|0 Tip jars double time pay They deserve something|0 Oh thats why USA doesnt have free healthcare filter out the poor|0 Stop being a dumbass|0 No Interns this time of year|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 Good point From now on well start track the ship board illness as well as the Japanese cases May be able to find a source of the two case sets|1 Agreed We are decentralized for a reason We need to be petitioning our local and state government officials|1 Until the United States put it to a hard stop|1 What a bunch od A holesget to work and help keep your country from economic ruin aswell|0 Insley as a snake is an insult to reptiles|0 Do you believe that Like honestly do you|1 No man no Thats too broad Either PCMR or Neckbeard Could be IamBadass or any other r that has a false sense of elitism|0 Ok this is a good stepbut doing takeout and delivery will still be a ton of exposure when the place i work only does take out the lobby gets slam packed full of people|1 No and it makes a lot of sense under historical circumstances Regardless of payer system govt v private Its not sustainable to operate at 3050 capacity Would either bankrupt the hospitals the government or both This virus may require us to develop a new model across the board|0 Yeah and to put that into perspective we are waiting for results since friday last week If the result does not arrive to thursday this week I have to go to work and might infect people in the office So this we are so on top of it propaganda is sadly just that |0 If you have a stocked apt stay there Stores are getting emptied here depending where you live|0 so when the number of official deaths goes above 12000 then youll take it seriouslyhow many died while welded in their home in Wuhan and werent officially recorded|0 If I have to argue with one more fucking moron on rall that this is not as bad as the flu Im literally going to go postal Their every fucking argument is so easily disproven Ive now had 2 redditors TODAY argue that every scientist and researcher is wrong about the death rate of the virus being between 15 or the hospitalization rate being between 520 Theyre so stupid it takes all of my constraint to not slap them into next week|0 I think this is the worst thing this time Instead of warning everyone about it the government tried to keep it hidden for a while and allowed it to spread before letting the world know whats going on That probably contributed to how widespread it is in China right now So sad|0 Toledo OhioThe toilet paper wars continue to rage The smaller hand sanitizer conflict also continues to burn snatching away lives and destroying families The Charmin Revolutionary Front has launched a bold assault against Quilted Northerns front line inflicting heavy casualties Quilted Northerns eastern neighbor and ally Angel Soft has retaliated with precision airstrikes reaping a heavy toll among Charmin infantry unitsElsewhere the canned goods of the world have been slaughtered en masse Accusations of war crimes have been flung between the frozen food section and dry goods but UN inspectors are unable to enter the area due to ongoing hostilities between the two factionsHigh level flyovers and satellite images of the Cold Flu Republic have revealed only devastation and desolation Nothing is left but a barren wasteland of empty shelves and shattered dreams The once proud people of Ricola have vanished The world mourns|0 What do you recommend when interacting with people who still think this is nothingKeep maximum distance as they may be infectious soon Or is this over the top|1 Same in Germany To be fair I wasnt in Wuhan or in actual China But I was in Vietnam and met many Chinese tourists in restaurants hotels busses I did get a cold and had it checked in Vietnam and Germany but they told me they cant check me explicitly for the Coronavirus I was told if I had it I would be much worse|0 I suspect that R0 calculations are only useful if made on a large sample size rather than based on how many people one particular individual infected|0 id assume production has been ramped up considerably due to its use in other countries my big worry is that it wont be used in the USA because it isnt particularly profitable or stubborn doctors ignoring treatment protocols because they werent developed in the USA|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes Starts from Jan 20|1 I smell bullshit|0 Yes there is a lot of administrative waste I agree Multiplying the number of available hospital beds by 10x will make healthcare costs skyrocket even if the system was 100 efficient Youd literally have empty hospitals 99 of the time and trained workers sitting idle If the virus truly causes a strain on hospital beds youll see all elective procedures cancelled This will open up quite a few resources|1 Geez How much lower do you think it can go|0 Yeah stats always make you forget that you are talking about someones father grandpa|1 Yet Uk has not cancel anything yet School remains open as Boris said that if schools close it will bring more harm than good And ignore the fact that Uk is just 2 weeks behind Italy Stupid Boris|0 It will be a good idea to include the regional breakdowns as wellWhere do you get the raw dataIs it from UK COVID19 Dashboardhttpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlf94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14|1 Not necessarily The rarity of such a long incubation period means that it should still be feasible to hit 60 transmission decrease and kill the outbreak More concerning would be prevalence of mild cases which might not be attended meaning that 60 has to be essentially all severe cases and some proportion of otherwise mild cases Depending on how abundant these cases are it will dramatically affect the R0 and predicted intervention rates required to bring it to a decreasing caseload|0 Stock up on food water and suppliesWhy do people seem to think that the public water supply will stop working Wuhan is heavily hit and still has electricity and waterIts a good idea to have water for other disasters like an earthquake but for a pandemic it isnt likely to be relevant|0 You would be like Bruce Willis in 12Monkeys|1 You can all make sure youve covered thishttpi4cdnorgtv1584255058161jpg entire movies list in the meantime Lets come together by staying far far apart and watching the same disease apocalypse movies|1 If you do please also take into account that not everyone will need hospitalization at the same time I realize there will be a jam but its not as simple as saying 100000 people cant fit into 10000 beds If the 100000 are for two weeks on average and are spread out over 18 months thats a relevant mitigating factor Im pulling these numbers out of the air but you get my meaning|0 I was jumping into a space fighter in Wing Commander in my 386 25mhz w 2megs of ram Im ready to serve|1 Articles with extraordinary claims that arent peer reviewed dont interest me|0 Jeff Bozo could spend 200000 a day every day for 1000 years and only spend half his fortune if he doesnt make any more money in that time What a nice guy letting his employees take off work once or twice during this crisis|0 Children have been dying in cages for how long nowWho cares theyre Mexican Right|1 If we have to go as low as 40 or even 60 in Europe for an ICU ban you would basically have a Hollywood epidemic movie Chaos Riots The virus would be the least of our worries But in Hollywood movies the contagion is much more deadly ebola rates So if we descend into chaos due to one with like this than our healthcare is sadly well crap to get overwhelmed like that And yet it seems probable And we as in countries spend tons on bullshit instead of funding healthcare|0 To be fair to the rest of the world in a situation like Wuhan unprecedented and shocking numbers reported by a govt with a questionable track record for transparency are going to be difficult to accept at face value without additional evidenceItaly is looking like that additional evidence right now Or hoping Im not right on this maybe Italy will make China look like it underreported|1 I wonder if that is just being said to legally cover asses knowing that testing isnt going to stop|1 Possibly good Q I think the difference here is the extreme lack of testing here and our population size If we had 3000 cases if we can get up to that with test kits and such than that number is relatively low for our population of 330 million compared to theirs The other thing is I think our govt has really dragged their feet to get testing going because 1 they think the flu kills more people and this is overhyped which i pray they woke up to that myth by now 2 and this I think is the major one it will cripple our economy if we go on extended lockdowns I think they would just seek at most to do strong restrictions in going out and urge to only go out once a week Many Wuhan residents were allowed the Lord ho out once a week but only walking and zero driving No clue how that would pan out here when we have freedom and rights unlike China|1 OFTEN does not require hospitalization Better|0 please tell me that everyone in the movie ends up happy and eating even happier mealsLa conch4 de mi madre|1 Theyre typical old business guys they dont understand the nuance of getting from AZ and only want the Z piece And then forget that Z is needed as a piece of some complex thing so they dont get the whole supply chain together|0 Make that two of us I freelance as well and all my events through April were basically vaporized If I dont work I dont get paid eitherFortunately I had a couple gigs before my country went full phase 4 which should help me survive about 3 months but after that No idea at all And my country isnt even thinking about something like UBI If anything at least were all in this together May your situation improve and stay safe|1 I am sorry but its too little too late for the rest of EU Italy was encouraging people not to cancel their vacation plan just 2 weeks ago|1 It shows a big decrease toward end of January If you click the expand button onpage the popout has this on the side The decline in incidence after January 8 is likely to be due to delays in diagnosis and laboratory confirmation That much in more verbose terms is also in the first paragraph of Results section|1 Is it possible he had one of the strains was tested negative for that and then was infected with the other strainJust asking because I heard there were 2 major strains of this disease going around one more serious and one less serious|0 Seconded Thank you so much for this post I felt like I was going crazy with the fear mongering and armchair epidemiologists on this sub|0 Fuck that piece of shit China shill|0 So reckless endangerment charges for everyone they came in contact with|0 The virus is in Manhattan Ive heard and Im going to broadway for a trip Broadway is in Manhattan I live in New jersey should I be worried|0 This made me feel better about instacarting The grocery store employees have been so helpful and sweet lately Were all in this together people Sending love|1 Wow A few weeks ago I accidentally got charged for 4 big cases of cat litter Almost 100 worth of litter I was like wth I ended up keeping them cuz wth why not I will always need it Wont go to waste Its like the universe knew I needed to stock up |1 CIA has entered the chat US Naval Intelligence has entered the chat|1 Thank youSeriously folks There is no hiding anything or covering anything up in this dayandage and certainly not with the hateful bitter acrimonious relationship between the news media and this current administration Trump hates the press and the press hates Trump and everybody knows it The minute anything gets covered up somebody will leak it and the press will trumpet it from the rooftops|0 TBH Its never an easy time in Iranour currency loses worth massively each day and our incomes get more and more worthless daily And the government keep screwing us over in new creative ways everyday|0 Be vigilant to protect yourself|1 No Im sorry but no If that sentiment isnt mature then for once I shall not act my age Any death any single death from this is tragic And there are going to be hundreds thousands even that will die across the western world purely because of our complacency and our hubris Lives that may not have been lost if we had taken things more seriously earlierThe fact that the mortality rate is in real terms less than it is on paper is a bitter mercy and it wont feel like a comfort to those impacted by this in the most permanent way|0 Mass gatheringsmass graves|0 Kids have been getting infected this whole time they just seem to bypass the symptoms Those children who do show symptoms are mild for the most part|0 Too much money involved to be cancelled Im thinking they will still play the games with very limited attendance Dont underestimate the power of greed|0 SARS spread to 8000 and killed 800 Its easy to say that isnt many because it was a small scale infection as in low of the world affected and not on our doorstep like this spreading like wildfire and infecting as many people in a week as the whole duration of the SARS epidemicI feel sorry for her family who are so expendable to her Hopefully none of them read this|1 some refuse to accept that they think its no big dealyou will seeACCEPT IT|0 Explain to me why surgeon masks dont protect youEvery photo from Asia in the last ten years has people wearing themWhy are they wearing them if they dont work|0 South Korea was fairly lucky in that the infections were mostly related to the cultchurch which made contact tracing much more efficient and easy to perform They also started testing 10000 a day when they likely never even had 10K infections in the country|1 It may be a no win but which has decision has less loss Both human and monetary|0 These people need to be imprisoned Whats the point in being educated if you behave like a dumbass anyway|0 Things I dont miss about Dallas|1 Damn what about the ministry of health|0 Lets assume thats true Something seriously doesnt add up then Based on Irans current numbers they are already sitting on an 88 mortality ratethe highest of any country And that number is underreported by 6 fold|1 I hope a country sends some to us when its time|1 If it wasnt so damn tragic it would be funny|1 Yeah Im surprised no ones done an AMA I would like to read one Though they might be still reeling from the shock o|1 Not working is not an option for many people Its like saying live without money How do they pay rentmortgage Pay bills Etc|1 Its not just the testingits the countermeasures employed following the testingTheyre GPS tracking the carriers using Amber alert style push notifications tracking on CCTV enforcing quarantinesUS is doing SHIT testing alone wont solve that|0 Yeah I meant more about people just emptying store shelves Of course that kind of goes back to your point because some turn and resell it at a much higher margin like the assholes they are Stores have been running out of hand sanitizer here then you find on Amazon third party sellers selling it for 60150 Luckily Amazon is planning to put a stop to it|1 In China people have been off work in earnest for 3 weeks at the very least by law from beginning of CNY to mid Feb and 56 weeks for many wasnt unusual until beginning of MarchIf Italy and Spain dont lock down very tight I foresee their numbers wont go down alot longer|1 Thanks for you update stay safe|1 Huh Seems a lot easier to just wear a scarf I have tightly woven but thin wool scarves wonder if those would work as well once the n95s run out|1 Im not sure I understand They failed to contain it so now theyre trying to say all this is not a big deal I wish Im wrong but I suspect were all fuckedPlus where did they get these numbers from 16 of confirmed cases confirmed cases representing between 510 of all infections in the community will dieSo mortality rate is 008016|0 Thats such a bummer Although Im jealous of your PTO My full time job which requires a masters degree and 2 years postdegree training doesnt have it|0 Its as much about missed work as anything The more people who get it the more people have to take off work for extended periods There are already entire factories in China not operaring A lot of white collar and tech or support jobs in America can work from home but manufacturing agriculture tourism service medical construction and logistics jobs could take a big hit if thousands of people are getting the virus all at once and missing work for a couple of weeks If you take the China approach which nearly everyone else has done and shut down one city or one state it lessens the impact on the rest of the country If you just throw your hands up and say Fuck it just get it it wont kill you you risk a much wider and faster spread which means more and more people getting sick and missing work or dying and therefore much more overall lost revenue Thus massive selling off now before it gets bad because the Trump Admin response has been Fuck it just get it it wont be that bad|0 It was 5 at the time No Im not a CCP shill but bring on the downvotes for stating facts If you were a PE firm and you owned 5 of Apple how much influence do you have over what features are on the latest iPhoneThis China Controls Reddit narrative needs to stop|0 Heard conflicting info re how long it can survive on a surface Theres been articles saying 9 days some saying its 2448 hours depending on the surface Do you have a more solid answer|0 In Trondheim most of the stores are also running out of foodtoilet paper Went to 3 stores today to get some basic stuff and old people were running around with shopping carts emptying the shelves They have no fucking shame but what can you expect from the me me and then megeneration|0 Their point is theres a selection bias in tested cases The grades of worst symptoms in reality go from Asymptomatic none report none confirmed Mild symptoms just a cold and no known exposure none report none confirmed Mild symptoms that either linger OR mild symptoms that get tested due to exposure or travel some get tested most probably dont Severe symptoms many get tested depending on location Critical symptoms most get tested nearly all Deaths assume all are tested eventuallyThis only talks about the first bullet It doesnt discuss the rest of the subclinical cases Recall the doctor in France who had a fever for a couple of days but bounced back or the German workers who had symptoms for 23 days but were only tested because of exposure We have no idea how big that group is If its 2x the size of asymptomatic then were talking about a significant proportion that are subclinical|0 I use silver a lot Its not a miracle in a bottle it wont cure corona virus but it has a lot of benefits|1 Cancelled my cruise first week of May today Carnival is clearly struggling to keep people from canceling Theyre literally giving EVERYONE who has a cruise between now and May 31st 100200 of incruise cash if they keep their booking and go on the cruise|1 Was waiting for this fuck the grocery stores there exposing the workers and dont care at all|0 Most ppl will recover Millions wont That is something worth fearing|0 Kind of unrelated but since therell probably be a lot of people affected once this is over I wonder if well have a special name for it Cool puffer you have there dude Do you have asthma or corona lung|1 Thats kinda what I figured but a bunch of people praising chinas hospital conditions is a new one to me lmao|1 Pandemic is no longer used its sort of an ancient term When they say its a pandemic that means we are shifting to mitigation not containment A containment effort is whats needed rn Some communities are still not prevalent Once its virtually useless to contain since it would be too expensive and low yielding then its a pandemic that requires mitigation But for that to happen we need to ramp up these numbers I give it end of year|0 How the fuck am I supposed to pay my bills if I dont go to work Im glad to be at work right now Government assistance isnt coming any time soon|0 Who says theyve confirmed this The Restaurant Would they say anything other than this given how they clearly are being negatively impacted What legally binding proof is there and what is their incentive to lieCome on people you cant be this naive its going to get you killed|0 No thats not true Smaller townscounties will have coroners as in one guy like a sheriff In the advanced parts of the country its the Office of the Medical Examiner They have a team of people and a head medical examiner and its a 95 job This is because tons and tons of humans die of natural causes each day Corona overdose or not They aint getting out of bed to cut open another heart attack vic or gang vic Conversely some areas of the USA allow funeral homes and embalmers to take the corpses they may show up quicker but its all subject to whether or not the cops are done with their investigation End of the day if the corpse is not on the street its easier to put a sheet over it and pick it up a few hours later or more As long as it isnt in an advanced state of decomp a dead body is safer to be around than some humans|0 And now we have recovered patients dying of respiratory failure httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfdgmo9arecoveredpatientinchinadiedofrespiratory The discharge summary on February 25 showed that after symptomatic support treatment the patients Li Liangs body temperature was normal for more than 3 days her respiratory symptoms improved significantly and two consecutive checkups were negative The terminal oxygen saturation without oxygen absorption was greater than 95 and the course of disease exceeded 14 Day after being evaluated by the expert group he was discharged On March 2 he suddenly developed symptoms and was certified dead after being sent to the hospital The medical certificate inferred of the death issued by the Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission provided by Ms Mei showed that Li Liangs direct cause of death was neocoronary pneumonia and the disease or condition that caused the death was sudden death of respiratory tract obstruction and respiratory failure|0 Logistics out of China is Super FUBARed so if they can even do regular shipping its probably the best they can do|1 Thankfully partial protection has worked well for us so far Hong Kongs coronavirus response leads to sharp drop in flu cases Financial TimeshttpsarchiveisQnHG1selection15990159965Most of us leave N95 and ASTM Level 3 masks to medical staffs and wear regular surgical masks or gas masks with particulate filters preferences 6035 P100 7093 P100 2097 P100 2091 P100 5N11CN N95 5P71 N943M Hong Kongs demo video on how to sanitize their gas masks and filtershttpswwwfacebookcomwatchv2749851841766668Eyeglasses for quick errands nonvented goggles for public transit Plain soap over antibacterial soap and hand sanitizers to avoid skin cracksAlways good to keep a copper bar to disinfect hands with by rubbing for 60 seconds in case nothing else is availableRelease of copper ions disrupt the viral coat and destroy the DNA and RNAhttpdxdoiorg101111j14622920201102677x insidePlease keep pressing the HHS on the whistleblower complaint investigation since Secretary Azar who was supposedly personally overseeing ithttpsabcnewsgocomPoliticshhsconductinginternalinvestigationwhistleblowercomplaintstoryid69343176 has been sidelinedhttpswwwpoliticocomnews20200305whitehousealexazarcoronavirus122250|0 Its the handful of intelligent specimens that lead the species to success and the rest are pure idiots that should have fallen to natural selection but didnt because of thr safety net of human society|1 Ive seen medical directors still practicing medicine Your experience may be limited to admin that are not doctors|0 So the Chinese government is butthurt that a site is talking bad about their abuse of human rights so they issue a countrywide blockSounds to me that the CDT is correct in reporting that the Chinese government is bad Why are you getting upvoted for this Chinese people are telling you up front that their government is censoring media|0 Sorry to hear about your condition Hope youre getting better One thing to consider with sinus symptoms and no fever that likely removed you from the list of CV consideration because those are hallmark symptoms accompanying fever and no sinus drainage based on the large incidence of confirmed casesCompletely agree that the lack of our nations ability to test is horrific and wont end well|0 This will get down votedWhile I agree it is a huge deal for elderly sick people with preexisting conditions etc USUALLY pre existing conditions are due to an unhealthy sedentary lifestyle Maybe those people need to take care of themselves better even when they arent sick In addition sick people are usually sick due to pre existing conditions which are 810 an unhealthy lifestyle CARE FOR YOUR BODY 365|0 Thank you for your work|1 Regardless of this situation its always a good idea to have one|1 Yes it is|1 One does not equal a bunch Just think of it as every age group has 5 fold less risk of severe disease except for the elderly who normally die of pneumonia because their immune system is to week|0 Im glad governments are run by old people Yeah i get angry when people say its just a flu Typical flu season means people may think they got flu but its covid Yeah we got tons to worry Antisocial behaviors are finally paying off|0 lol how do people get sold on the idea that the rest of the world likes the UShttpssteemitimagescom640x0httpsscontentcdninstagramcomvpe8b1cf40cb9517109159aef400e71afb5B509220t51288515s640x640sh008e35294024176231838980737735688073503627018240njpg|1 we are somewhat cleaner than ChinaItaly That whole theory that Americans have so many food allergies and environmental allergies because we are too clean So it might spread slower here due to our hygiene practices Americans love their cleaning products Areas that are more spread out and rural will probably have slow spread as well America is very spread out|1 Testing doesnt fix anything Youll be just as effective staying home without the test|1 careful with the rabbits and squirrels they have no fat in them whatsoever you can eat them but pair them with fathttpsenwikipediaorgwikiProteinpoisoninghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiProteinpoisoningand fish well a lot of water sources are polluted nowadays not to say there arent any fish but be careful where you fish|0 Kinda surprised they havent done this yet Or at the very least a cheap fire tablet You can access online classes use a text editor for papers do mathhave a calculator watch educational videosthe list goes on One of those tablets is like 40 as well|1 He may be starting to feel the stress of all of this|0 Ditto My family didnt think much of the virus until this week My mother actually suggested I likely didnt know what was going on since I dont watch the news I told her I do one better I read the Reddit feed|1 c Benefit PeriodFor purposes of this section the benefit period begins on January 19 2020 and ends on the date that is 1 year after the date of enactment of this titled Retroactive BenefitsAn application for benefits for any month beginning and ending in the benefit period may be filed at any time prior to the date that is 180 days after the end of such benefit period|1 So the 14 day quarantine is next to useless or are you no longer infectious at that point|0 OkSouth Korea 7478 Cases 53 Deaths 070 fatality rate 196618 tests doneItaly 9172 cases 463deaths 505 fatality rate 49937 tests doneWe have genetic evidence that all tests from Italy are the Lstrain over 80 of cases in S Korea are S strain We have genetic evidence that the L strain is more aggressive because ancestors have the L strain have way more mutations than the S strain due to faster spread and transmissions Like what else do you want You said Theres no evidence of a new strain that behaves any differentlyI linked you a paper that says exactly that There is a different strain that spreads more aggressively in Italy vs the one in South Korea If thats the reason why Italy is seeing 5 fatality rate while South Korea is seeing sub 1 is conjecture Maybe its related Who knows|0 Im a bartender in Wisconsin It has been way busier over the last 3 nights than is typical Like Im selling making twice as much as normal This seems like its a joke to the people that are out If I didnt have to work to not get evicted live I wouldnt go in This is going to get bad|1 They do this during the war How do they know|0 I work event set up Must be nice to not have to care about your job security Im not saying your wrong but no one is going to pay my rent because of carona virus|0 The rapture is coming and all that Some evangelicals seem to believe it is their duty to help usher in the time of the return of Jesus so that we can all get on to the salvationrapture part Naturally that involves a bit of prophecy fulfillment to speed things along Cant having the horsemen sitting in the stable all day you know|1 Actually theres a pretty good reason for thatChina uses a different GPS coordinate system than the rest of the world that intentionally falsifies latitude and longitude coordinates from the real world locations to improve national securityhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiRestrictionsongeographicdatainChinahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiRestrictionsongeographicdatainChinaHeres a video explaining it if you dont want to read the Wikipedia articlehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvL9DiUVC4|1 At least China gave some numbers to play with even if they where probably fake|0 really struggling determining between anxiety and very mild symptoms|0 Roger Daltrey will pay for what hes done to Taiwan|0 Not directed at you But that arrogance and sentiment is part of the reason whyWestern nations simply have a comfort level and lifestyle that has zero experience with things like this|1 It absolutely isYou could have just stopped right there|0 I would be extremely happy to have those people say I told you so This is the big one|1 That doesnt sound right With a HDHP shouldnt the premiums be lower|0 For anyone looking for internships Im sure theyre going to LOVE you hahaIm a senior software engineer who just always wanted to work for the CDC as an epidemiologist so its been a bit of a hobby for the last decade and a half I do want my hands on that data Im just going off the best information we have available and what Ive seen is not pretty Im completely aware that society overall will be just fine Like Stephen King said its not The Stand Like I was talking with my doctor today in for unrelated reasons thank fuck its not ebola Its the weakest of us who will be hurt by this My best friend has an autoimmune disorder my dad is an obese smoker and one of my other best friends is in her residency to be a surgeon and she would definitely be pulled into the hospital to help in a scenario like what Italy is experiencing I would love to be ultimately proven wrong I hate being alarmist The USA just has 330m people so small deathrates and hospitalizationrates get ugly fast when you only have 1 million hospital beds that are already half full and about 120k ventilators to go aroundYou stay safe yourself Im in the PNW so Im going to go hide in my fortress of toilet paper now|1 first line doctors are always at higher risk thats true for all viruses not just this|1 Fox News is a dangerous virus|0 The daily mail feeds itself with mass panic stories it had 10 of the top 15 stories yesterday morning about Coronavirus its just the weather and love island is more clicky|1 huh and i thought the worst part was that people would be confirmed sick or dead stateside TIL|0 Yes Im hoping because they are supported it will have a knock on effect for the self employed Fingers crossed Its going to be a tough year all round|1 ok well lets mass produce it lets go lets go|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17581 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 udylantherabbit2016 at 7296 nices44 uHashmannannidan at 235 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Chinese shill I hate Trump but the CCP and Xi are the first to be blamed|0 Besides hoarding There are still football games on the weekends with 10K50K people in NRW People are coming to work sick because its just the flu She is just stating what they are preparing for I probably wont be affected much but Id like my grandparents and my parents to stick around a bit longer than this yearAnd being a doctor in a hospital preparing for a massive outbreak is not helpful Confronting people with the reality and urging them to be cautious is not the same as spreading panicAnd triage is no bullshit Germany has 28000 intensive care beds 10 of all Corona patients need those exponential growths do the maths If we stay below those 28K ICpatients fine If not doctors have to decide who gets respiratory machines and who not|0 I have health issues as well If I get this Im dead or would likely want to be short or long term Fingers crossed for all of us in the bad health boat|0 Lol so what did anyone do from Jan 23rd till till this day Anyone bitching should also be sued for their own inaction You cannot say China slow their response and its all the Chinese fault when your country starting from Jan 23rd did absolutely fucking nothing So what if China did to shut down the whole country on the 13th Would anyone have done anything|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Neurotic to the bone no doubt about it|0 Just the bronzer on his faceOh god the US is completely fucked|0 This was I expecting from the unofficial news from China But even when it will drop I dont think it will drop to 2|0 This is the worrying part of this If the hit rate is going up then it suggest that more people are being infected Maybe todays low number is as a result of the lower number of tests|0 Downplaying and outright lies have also been promoted by many other world leaders the WHO CNN other media outlets and infectious disease experts who oscillate between telling us its the flu you really need to worry about dont wear masks because they dont work and reminding us 10000 times to get the flu shot among a tidal wave of other BS|0 Welcome to reddit Unfortunately it is a believable range and is based on scientific models coming out of research centers and universities Our numbers in the US are artificially low just as Chinas were and still are artificially low Ive read estimates from researchers in Hong Kong and London and other places outside of China of a good multiplier being anywhere from 10 to 35 and one as high as 40 Whatever numbers they are telling you just multiply by 10 to 40 to get a good estimate for undiagnosed including people who died of regular pneumonia and heart failure etc without being tested If its 118101 confirmed infected at the moment that calculation would put a believable estimate at 1181010 up to 4724040Professor Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College of London published a paper estimating Hubei province will see an 18 fatality rate Thats one of five people in a city of 11 million which means this professor is projecting roughly 2 million deaths in Hubei province alone The same professor says that it is not absurd to anticipate 400000 infected in the UK|0 If by boycott you mean collectively burnt like the disease they are then yes i agree We need a Fight Club movie ending but for insurance companies|1 Thats nuts Multiple districts in Houston have also shut down for another week I havent heard of a single one in our Metro area thats staying open|0 Any scare or precautions for him I have a newborn and a 4 year old we are mainly worried for the NB since he doesnt have any shots yet Take care Paint crafts and tv time to pass 2 weeks|0 Im Canadian bordering New York and it just keeps inching closer and closer Weve got a pretty good handle on it now but its going to get harder and harder as it approaches our border|1 I thought like that too except Ill be too sick then to do anything about it|0 Imagine being stuck in there for 2 weeks I hope the coast off Yokohama is calm Its not like you would be keen to take a stroll for some fresh air|1 Are dentists acting on this I have a regular cleaning scheduled this week which I was going to cancel anyways but I havent heard a peep from my dentist Im sure they are overwhelmed|1 They may be new but with the current situation demand is skyrocketing everywhere|0 The commenter specifically said that it was the Chinese Red Cross that was corrupt not the people He literally said the Chinese people donated medical supplies Criticizing the Chinese government criticizing Chinese people|0 Yeah use all those abandoned malls in the US|0 I meant in terms of collapsed health care triage etc|1 Thats where I wasnt certain The Israel obsession is a hige part of American Charismatics but this cult and the rest Korean culture Im less familear with I do think the mandatory meetings and rules against getting sick was just an unfortunate coincidence though Even the Mormon cults believe in mandatory service|0 I work in an office building with 600 Giant multinational company HR is doing everything they possibly can to prevent people from working from home Wife had direct contact with a confirmed case coworker after which her office closed and got sick They are not letting me work from home because Im not showing symptoms Im being forced to be a plague vector to my friends and coworkers|0 There will more testing around Seattle now It will be interesting to see how it pans out Its very likely that Seattle isnt the only area that has significant community spread|1 How many leave passes for foreign travel have already been approved weeks ago for the March Break I doubt they are tracking And what is their definition of an outbreak is it different than the governments travel restriction is it more inclusive counting anywhere with a confirmed case|0 I think die down is a relative term here I dont think anyone expects the heat to cause a gigantic drop off in cases This thing is still super contagious and as the paper suggests people have no immunity to it However if the heat and humidity can even lower the infection rate a couple percentage points that will ease the burden on hospitals and hopefully looking at you USA allow Countries to build up some more medical infrastructure to deal with the inevitable fallwinter ramp up|0 good for you dude thats one less person possibly getting sick and spreading it more|0 Once zey go up who cares where zey come down Zats not my department says Werner von BraunEdit Friendly reminder that CLO was modded on multiple subreddits at the same time and has actively campaigned for any Wuhan subreddit hes not mod of to be shut down This is not organic activity|1 Im glad theyve done that but you dont have to be a scientist to see that the government have fucked us again|0 It kinda is more important to work and have good economy not my view just logically because our world is based around economy and labor not around extremely healthy humans The reason being simply that we have established such high expectations that we overpopulate the world 1000 years ago the average human was dead by 40 Thats why logically economical damage would be far greater than the virus damage|0 Not really Some of supposedly better documented cases like the German case had to be retracted It doesnt seem to be the big issue I worry more that people with symptoms feel okay enough for up to a week not to seek medical attention|1 If we go by original definition China was always a second world country literally the sovietchinese block as opposed to NATO allianceIf we by by third world poor then China is still very much a third world country|0 I still find myself on some of the other subs occasionally but nowadays I mostly just visit rcovid19 A lot less fear mongering a lot more looking at the science|0 Another one hereI ghosted first on my main account and then created this one the exact day WHOthey created the name COVID19 lol I knew something big was coming our way when I saw the now infamous leaked video of the nurse from Wuhan reporting the true China infections fatalities People in my life thought I was batshit insane here in the Statesnow theyre looking at me with gobsmacked expressions All I keep telling them is that I did NOT want to be rightit makes me very sad because I know whats coming nextwe all do|0 Well we did reject the tests This person wasnt really showing their political views They were making an educated opinion based on the facts theyre aware of And they made sure to start off their comment saying that this is their thoughts not facts|1 It wouldnt be cleared for use in the USA by the FDA if it isnt safe and effective Yes there are times when safety is outweighed by the effectiveness for specialized treatments The alternative in this use case is to offer nothing and have potential for death So safety becomes much more relative This shouldnt be a mass prescribed drug but in instances when it looks bleak this is an option that is worth it|1 Thrice Ive seen homeless men grab a cup from the trashcan and fill it up at the soda fountain And I remember a woman not homeless but her entire hand in the salsa at Pollo Loco I feel doomed|0 Its more like the nation of fucking your life up while also lubing you up so they can fuck you literally as well we blame every citizen who didnt serve in the military for the deaths of those who did unless you suck on the governments dick and people who are overly patriotic to the point of turning into nationalism think you are a disgrace for thinking otherwise or you have money and you dont have to wonder what the fuck youre going to eat next week because of the miserable piece of paper we call a living wage of a paycheck I consider it ridiculous that most people that I meet and find out I live in Mexico ask me if Im not scared about living in a third world country when in reality although their minimum wage is rat shit I can afford to live comfortably with my US paycheck and at the very least they have FREE FUCKING HEALTHCARE FOR EVRYONEUGHHHHHHHHHHHJJSorry Slightly annoyed at the moment and I just ran with whatever I was feeling as I typed|0 Ive lost a lot of respect for the CDC during this shit show|0 Does it help to avoid getting COVID19 take Vitamin C every morning to boast my immunosystem|1 Just dont mention child hell hang up and block you|1 Booooo stop shaming people for having panic attacks Never had one before Dont pass judgment|0 Whateven NYC isnt like that all Still lots of food on the shelves Not a lot of toilet paper though|0 I thought the diagram in this article was helpful to explain 45 meters|1 Growing worries Its like Jacks fucking beanstalk In the last 24 hours the country has shut down my wifes job went poof and the pasty resistance lands when I find out my daughter went a day trip with our counties first of 2 coronavirus cases a week ago So much poo has hit the fan that Imma gonna need a bigger fan|1 Might as well make him director of the WHO along with Dr Campbell|1 I think Norm Macdonald had a bit on this in his very very first standup special from the early 90s or late 80s|1 thanks for the original thought|1 Weve tested Presumptive cases or possible cases How are people satisfied with this kind of responseWho should they be testing|1 We dont have data YET for this particular virus There are many factors that contribute to how long a virus will live on a surface including temperature humidity the type of surface etc Many believe that in most circumstances the virus can live for a couple of hours to a couple of days depending on the surface and the environment around it It is relatively easy to disinfect surfaces and there there is helpful information from reliable resources such as the US CDC herehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcommunityhomecleaningdisinfectionhtmlIsaac B|1 The real question is how difficult is it to make the test and how many can be made to day right now If this is a complicated process to make the test and their are limits on production of it then it is next to pointless given you have a planet with billions of people in need of it|0 I played in 2016 and recently went back to it It definitely feels like there is a lot more to do Friends gifts special quests battle leagues that are done remotely etc And then the changes they have made for CV are actually very nice for staying in I think youd probably have a good time with little investment especially right now|1 Well I hope you feel better soon|1 Israel probably was just waiting for an excuse|1 can you share the text thank you|1 Its gonna be hard to fly to italy since lot of flights are getting closed to prevent the virusand i think its stupid now to go to italy for a various reasons|0 Their have been 2620 samples tested by CDC from 1007 different people People saying we are not testing are spreading misinformation|0 Not the best time for memes|0 Im waiting for european datas and metastudies This scientist claim this doctor says is inferior to empitical data|0 yeah thats not how iq works|1 This is from a movie set there is no Corona virus on the street that needed a taxi|0 Such a mess|0 My fatherinlaw rented a house in the Florida Keys for us in June He secured it back in December I would hate to travel if this gets really bad Im sure the Keys arent a hotbed of activity but getting there wont be easy if theres an outbreak Im bummed|0 Cant stop progress|0 The western world is not like ChinaRussiaYep we have different lungs than people in China and Russia|0 Good time to get some deals on takeout The sushi place by me is so good its still busy all the time|1 Yeah but the commenter only said theyll start breathing again I dont think they meant going back to business as usual just have a more manageable situation|1 What about the rallies Yes|1 I like the ending The only thing to worry about is lack of worry|0 He was being sarcastic|0 The intersection of the demand and supply graph The price of the supply where it meets the demand is the price you should charge to make max profit If price is too high youre not gonna get enough competition and if price is too low your losing out on possible profit and raising the price to equilibrium is going to make more profit than the current level of competition you are getting is making you|1 I dont think its incompetence at all they know exactly what they are doing but the airlines asked them not to hinder flightsDo you have a source to verify that|1 Whats fucked up is that they arent actually lying They ARE reporting confirmed cases and confirmed case deaths Its just that those numbers are essentially worthless because of the way that they are handling the testing only testing patients if they have the capacity within the hospital and not having nearly enough capacity to do the actual testing|0 Google Target Walmart WTF is this|0 Google the Spanish Flu|0 Ive never understood this either Its never bothered me like that Good luck to those people if they ever travel to India|1 Its not the truth though The story that Trump fired entire pandemic response team and cut CDC funding was fake news Neither of those things actually happened The CDC budget cuts were set in place before trump took offfice and he only fired the NSC members of the pandemic response team not the entire team He also banned travel from China early on a move criticized as racist by Democrats|0 Cook it yourself Learn to cook the foods you like You can find copy cat recipes|1 I just mean in a timeframe way We had 3 months from November to January to do something and start producing tests and restricting travel|0 Haha GOTEEEM|1 More like two weeks ago vs now|1 You probably saw this already but there are some doubts about whether this result is just a sampling artifacthttpstwittercomrichardneherstatus1235217967727681536s20|0 Uvc light does not work on porous surfaces This product is a scan for people who dont understand industrial hygieneIts aimed for travelers who get on never cleaned planes and say the machine washed in detergent bedding is uncleanAlso any type of wand style uvc application guided by a hand cannot be relied on due to the inverse square law that effects germicidal uv The time a lamp spends over the area to clean is critical Just as the distance and the material being cleaned|1 Nice job WHO Theyre the ones who encouraged Cambodia to do this Completely irresponsible|1 People are just way too ignorant and selfish to do it on their ownMaybe some are but many more are just gullible fools They heard from both the President of the United Stateshttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpcoronavirusrallyremark and Fox Businesshttpswwwthedailybeastcomfoxbusinesshosttrishreganunleashesbatshitrantaboutcoronavirusimpeachmentscam that it was all a hoax Some probably still believe thisObviously Fox is always highly suspect where accuracy is concerned but normally at least the President of the United States would be a reliable source of information|0 I had to eat MREs for a couple of weeks in Nepal after the earthquakes a few years ago Bottled water and food were sort of available but very expensive You could maybe buy some if you could find a working ATM Things can go from calm to intense before you see it coming Here we can clearly see it coming I give zero fucks about how crazy I may seem to everyone else|0 If they had tested him they wouldnt be throwing anything at him as they would have known over a week ago what is really making him sick so there would be no need to stop at the store to pick up antibiotics a week later Her could have been treated for the proper illness instead of just sticking their heads in the sand to keep numbers down Im so glad you can tell people in your life what you do and be obeyed You must feel very powerful I however treat people as adults I respect that I cannot command anyone to do what I say I also respect that spending time with grandkids can be one of the greatest joys in a persons life and to take that away from someone who is facing a mortal illness already is borderline cruelty Yes Im pissed they wont test him or any other kid who isnt being hospitalized just to avoid true test numbers 1 in 15 being tested currently are sick in our area if they tested everyone who is symptomatic they would be much higher and maybe people would take the threat seriously instead of going to concerts|0 Theres nothing remarkable about Iran in those aspects China has bested Iran on lyingcovering up the seriousness of infection and deathsThey also have their own version of the Supreme Leader and fucked up upper managementThere are many more examples like this The majority of the world population lives under hostilecorruptincompetent rule or povertyI do agree Iran could do as much damage to spreading this as China but I think they also now screwed themselves And will now get a real dose of isolation that decades of sanctions could not succeed|0 No one know public health than I do|0 Twitter may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial accountshttpshelptwittercomenmanagingyouraccountabouttwitterverifiedaccountsRemember that anyone can write whatever they want to on Twitter and that Twitter content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Number of infections dont determine pandemics|1 Nice to see that this scam artist is still at it|0 Holy shit I think he actually has it He sounds terrible|0 I expect that a franchise that has spent its entire corporate life espousing Canadian ideals should live up to them when push comes to shove You think those people are washing their hands and giving one single fuck about you and your coffee Not a chance They want to go home and not get sick but by all means grab a coffee to go Why not give Tim Hortons your money eh|1 And then realize roughly half of people are more disgusting than that yes I realize that average and median are not the same thing|0 ty|1 Excellent thank you so much|1 I hope they all stay well and healthy despite being positive to covid19 Our world still need heroes like them Thank you to all the medical workers Thank you|1 I wish washington state would do this for us|1 Germany similar like the US is divided into states and the situation can be vastly different from state to state For example I live in Bavaria and I know for a fact that tests here are going on non stop Ive been tested myself last friday and know at least 5 people who have been tested as well I also know that in Baden Wrtenberg and Berlin tests are going on non stop But someone from Saxony where only a small amount of cases are known yet might have a much harder time to get tested But from what I hear in most parts of Germany its not too hard to get tested by now|1 Most people still think its like SARS or Ebola small outbreak out there that theyve already forgotten never to hear about again|1 Thanks for updating|1 We arent no PPE isnt exactly in abundance in London And thats only what Ive seen on my commute SE to N|1 What ended up happening with his bossDid he get better Is he back to work What does he think of your Husbands case|1 Ah yes its all about government control|1 You dont need to fight them you just need to stop being innocent because you dont know China|1 Im hopefully leaving on Friday because of precisely what you said It saddens me to leave my job and friends like this but people need to study more history to see how bad these situations can potentially get You cant help anyone if youre dead|0 Yes but we also have little idea about how many people were infected|0 Arent they generous|0 Bro if people are going to buy them especially as things get worse Wouldnt u want them to have good quality stuff Im seeing so much overpriced 90 garbage masks that are clearly cheap stuffbut I get it I wont do it again|1 Maybe try your local ethnic market The big grocery stores in my area are out of potatoes tomatoes other veggies but the local Iranian market had some along with milk yoghurt and good take out kebabs|1 Ill give the case another look and see what anomalies i can find in correlation with the cases were seeing now|0 Yup agreed they wont give a shit unless this directly affects them and they shit their pants|1 Ok thx for your opinion|1 Might fine looking grand parent ya got there It would be a shame if something happened to them You dont want anything to happen to them do yaExploitation and extortion its the profiteers way|1 This is why im trying to convince my parents to pull my sister out of school and home school her instead even though our city has no outbreaks yet She has severe asthma and I dont want to wait till someone at her school is infected She probably wont survive|0 On the plus side at least hes not free to wander around infecting people for a while|0 forcing people to quarantine through physical force Good Sounds like a plan|1 Agree completely Ive been arguing for a good long while that its already well past the point we completely did away with the very ruinous concept of businessescompanies as a commodity anyway Its at the heart of the ridiculous economic ideology we now hold The fantasydemand of the eternal profit increase is insanity in the most literal sense I mean we see profitable companies face ruin not because they fail to make even a big enough profit but because they fail to make a profitprofit continually Thats basically the market demand the standard And one way or another its behind almost every issue with capitalism today Outsourcing to low wages to companies selling offclosing their RD in the name of near term profit to companies selling out to china to the dumbing down of medialowest common denominator to microtransactions in games and countless more Whenever you bring this up or question the wisdom of the market in general you get called a socialist or worse lol But in reality im no fan of socialism and full on anticommunist Its actually because i am that argue these things The current ideology is not only destroying our countries and societies our businesses and people Even worse it is single handedly delivering us right into the hands of leftistssocialistscommunists and the utter ruin that they represent Yet people refuse to even think about it|0 No not the same structurally Ethanol is C2H6O IPA C3H8O in an another confirmation 70 destilled water is needed for the disruption of the osmotic balance within the bacteria and viruses that they could pop and the alcohol will denaturate the protein like cooking that the protein would aggregate together|0 What does that have to do with the handling of the coronavirus crisis|0 How Were they still sick or fully recovered Is it possible their immune system didnt remember the virus somehow|0 How are you feeling Were you hospitalized|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwpnasorgcontentpnas104187582F1largejpgI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im kinds tired of living through history|0 It astounds me how inept the government is at this|1 Jw when did they say that|1 Not easy to compare the immune profiles of age 60 people with an acute viral infection with the profiles of 20somethings infected with HIV over a period of years not days But the cytokinetcell profile certainly looks similar to AIDS They need to establish a basis of comparison of noninfected people over 6070 living in the same area What do their tcellcytokine counts look like|1 Unless people in the US are truly a superior human race there is no denying the amount of cases in the US right now is being VASTLY underestimatedTheyre not testing for it thats why our numbers are so low As of a few days ago we had only tested approximately 8500 people see edit below and the number of people being tested has actually been going down on a daily basis In the state of Ohio population 12 million as of 2pm this afternoon we had 5 positive cases 30 people who tested negative and 52 more tests pending results The president says that anyone who wants tested can get tested and thats 100 a lie We have tested 82 people out of a population of 12 million in Ohio and we already have cases of community spread here President Trump has been so concerned about trying to keep the reported numbers down to make us look good that hes actually making the situation worse Yesterday the CDC announced that between all public and private labs there was the capacity to test a total of 75000 people thats it Our response has been by far the worst of nearly any developed nation with perhaps the exception of Italy But give us another two weeks and I suspect that we will be worse off than even they wereEDIT The actual total number of people in the United States that have been tested for COVID19 from January 18 when we started testing through March 11 is 10709httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovtestinginushtml South Korea a nation of 51 million people is testing 10000 people per day|0 This really screws the people who dont have an elderly person in the household Stores are going to set their first hour being open for the elderly only and they will wipe out the stock of all the important items such as hand sanitizer sanitizing wipes toilet paper etc|1 Im a filmmaker in NYC and Im honestly trying to figure out how to film something around this Not doc but narrative I want to make post to get other redditors involved but itll just get dumped on |0 Oh OK Well the who is supposed to have higher standards than any local health body|1 I am but its because I know the chances of me surviving a pass or two of this through my household are slim I will still have to go get my donated immune cell infusions once a month just to avoid skin infections and such so those dont kill me and in doing so Im at risk in the very infusion center full of other people with extra weak immune systems that may be carrying it in to the rest of us plus my husband and daughter are out in the public every day No way for me to completely isolate even if I wanted to Just knowing I cant leave the house except for absolute necessity makes me feel sick to my stomach I HATE being lonely and LOVE my stupid little goodwill shopping trips once a week to find little treasures to decorate and organize my nest home My life has been weird for years anyways with my health being so awful and Iv been very close to death a few times but this waiting for coronavirus to sneak in to me and not being able to go out and enjoy life a little its just its awful|0 Okay so I understood it as you meant Thanks for your advice I as a total noob have check what you wrote online and Ive just ordered them right before your answer I also found out that one of the supplements I earlier bought for my family has 35mg EGCG per capsule and also 83 mg QUERCETIN Do you have any idea how much from these would be sufficient Or what would be considered overdose|1 WA grandma cousins 2 healthy children had unexplained pneumonia in early February Gave my grandmother a heart attack and she was hospitalized Lucky to be alive|1 Been to Copenhagen a few times and Id say that Denmark is heaven compared to Stockholm If I would move abroad and wouldnt wanna move too far it would be Copenhagen Wonderful people architecture and economy|1 Sorry for the downvotes it must be awful hearing about this unfold Easy for people to judge when they arent in your shoesI hope your loved one will be ok|1 Egypt My Country is doing exactly that Fuck i am quitting my job tomorrow and staying home This is fucked up|0 Yeah I mean what is there to fight against its obvious it originated in China|0 What a weird way to reply to that guy|0 Only 55 He estimates it went from 235 to 105 Thats not only I wouldnt really describe that as only At 235 youve got exponential growth At 105 it barely sustains itself And that was measured from 1 week before the restrictions were introduced to 1 week after so its more like 1 week to see results than two|1 I just did Thanks|1 How do people feel about domestic within US travel Im in NC and have a wedding in Alabama but because so few people have been tested I cant assume that its very safe anywhere I work in a BSL2 lab so Im used to constantly washing my hands with proper technique but that doesnt help if someone sneezes near youIm not worried about my health Im worried about affecting othersEDIT Cancelled our attendance to the wedding|1 As a former whole foods employee who tried to use the Team Member emergency relief fund but got laughed at by the store leader you cant take it for face value until you need it and actually get itI was very pro whole foods until I needed them to follow through on all those promises and they just turned their heads the other way|1 Yes it is|1 Thats like the guy who stops to take a selfie with the bearcant save him|1 Congrats Wife is due in April and were pretty stressed out over this Glad to see this along with promising stats for pregnantchildren Best of luck|1 Im not concerned about my own health Im 26 years old but I dont want to risk other people getting infected and overwhelm the healthcare system|0 This is great for people like me who are computational biologists Anybody got a summary article I can send to relatives who think this is a manmade virusconspiracy that sums up the research in laymans terms|1 they need to be marked as terrorist and treated that way|0 So if those ER people need comprehensive care for two weeks to cure them hows that going to work under the American system|1 Ok|1 Its because Bernie got his boots smoked yeah who didnt see that coming other than them and Twitter and politics is out of their echo chamber spreading their garbage other places on reddit coronavirus is sadly where a lot of them have gone now|0 When my mom had to go to the unemployment office for a training thing they were talking about 211 Thank you for reminding me|0 National Institute of Allergy and Infectious DiseasesThe National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases NIAID is one of the 27 institutes and centers that make up the National Institutes of Health NIH an agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services HHS NIAIDs mission is to conduct basic and applied research to better understand treat and prevent infectious immunologic and allergic diseasesNIAID has intramural inhouse laboratories in Maryland and Montana and funds research conducted by scientists at institutions in the United States and throughout the world NIAID also works closely with partners in academia industry government and nongovernmental organizations in multifaceted and multidisciplinary efforts to address emerging health challenges such as the pandemic H1N109 virus PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Tooo good|1 Weapons dont need to kill to get the desired result Killing doesnt gain power|0 Except you have to factor in the actual death rates of the various age groups The stat you used currently applies to only those over 60 The stats get really scary the older the patient but under age 40 it falls to just 02 There will be no way to know the actual mortality rate until way later when they can look at how many cases across all age groups versus how many deaths Right now its primarily older folks creating the statsTake sensible precautions to protect the elderly you encounter but the actual mortality rate is a lot more nuanced than just saying 3source httpswwwlivesciencecomnewcoronaviruscomparewithfluhtmlhttpswwwlivesciencecomnewcoronaviruscomparewithfluhtml|0 a top US health official criticized Chinese authorities for not inviting US and other international investigative agencies to join them in researching the new virus While China has been more transparent than it was during the 2003 SARS outbreak US officials are still getting their information through press briefings rather than from direct transfer of scientific dataThis is key China continues to be more concerned with its image and controlling the media narrative than actually protecting its own citizens and preventing further spread of the virus around the world Other governments especially the US ultimately bear blame for welcoming China into the world community for shortsighted economic reasons read greed when the country has been and still acts so selfishly and foolishly in many crucial societal economic and environmental ways Those Chinese consumer and investment dollars are proving to be a whole lot less worth it as time passes and the real effects are becoming apparent|0 oh no oh dear thats terrible just tragic absolute pity truly a shame thoughts and prayers SO many thoughts and prayers mmhmm|0 Is this the beginning of individual trusts breaking away from government current guidelines and them doing what they think is right I havent seen any other trusts announce this practice and like someone mentioned herethe odd care home has but they are usually private places and can set rules as they see fit|1 Young healthy people can absolutely die Thats a pretty serious symptom of it Cases of 20somethings dying have been in the news|1 Well its cheaper so if you can afford the current system you can afford universal healthcare|1 To me by far the best tracker Ive seen so far Simple and to the pointEdit if I had gold I would shower you in it|1 They werent as transparent as you thought The first doctor that warned about this was accused of inciting panic and later died of the same disease he was trying to warn them aboutOnly after things couldnt be kept under wraps anymore did they start doing thingsThat doctor was later hailed as a martyrThe main reason other countries were slow to react was because WHO kept believing China when they said they had things under control and it was nothing major|0 In addition to meditation try yoga Ive been doing athome yoga nearly every day since early January and it has helped me control my general anxiety levels so much I use an appwebsite called Down Dog which is now free to use throughout April as a result of the current ongoing events|1 just get enough shit for 2 or 3 weeks on a solo tripwhat is she gonna do return it|0 People are deliberately ignoring the information you pointed out and then trying to rile everyone up at the same time trying to get them to panic Just look atbthe comments and you can see what the intentions are They realy want to believe this is the end Dont get me wrong its a nasty virus and its to be taken serious But lets be real its likley less than 1 death rate But even with 1 with no vaccine or herd immunity its enough to fuck up a countries healthcare system|0 care to share what technology you used for the site and feeds you are using for the live data|1 Are you hiring registry especially from out of state to help with the staffing shortage I can see registry being pretty inundated as well CA will see the most affect of this seeing that they require a special licensure|1 On Thursday the New York Times reported that the CDC and other federal scientists would no longer be allowed to make public addresses about the outbreak without the approval of Vice President Mike Pence following President Donald Trump appointing him to oversee all coronavirusrelated responses|0 Its so funny seeing peoples bubbles bursting through all of this The very sight of a mask is triggering people Another good percentage of people wont wear them because theyll be uncool Were fairly fucked|1 Youre either joking or unable to understand these peoples motivations Or you share their motivations|1 CDC warned us a long time ago that this virus couldnt be stopped from spreading now youre blaming them because they spoke the truthBut they arent in the write either the shouldve prepping for this thing a long while ago|0 They have a live map of the Coronavirus cases in the US but it would hit me with a pay wall and hide the map as soon as the site finished loading So I would F5 the page and hit ESC right as the map loaded If I was quick enough I could beat the paywall|0 Who is this guy in the video Theres not enough research on this topic yet to say that with any level of confidence|1 male in my mid 20s living alone Seems excessive for 2 weeks of food just over half an ounce of weed Now I see how this works|0 Ive never heard of someone from the United States and America|1 House calls for regulars donning PPE before stricter lockdowns go into place Im a woman wishing I had gotten a haircut before all of this and thats the only way I could see myself getting one now|1 Its crazy how many people think Im wrong when I tell them the corona virus is really mild in kids I have a young kid so I researched it to verify it was true and I seen nothing to suggest its notBut everyone just repeats Oh no its dangerous for the really old and really young I guess because thats what they always hear about the flu And I mean they are half right when it comes to CoronaThe government and media should really make it clearer that its not as deadly in kids Would definitely alleviate a potential panic|0 Thats because you were infected with the dumbass long before this virus was a thing|0 Not quite like that Sources are saying that China had stolen it from a Canadian lab and a B4 in the US We would much rather deploy the weapon crippling the Chinese economy and come in as the hero with the vaccine we patented back in 2014 for this specific coronavirus And after the trade war what better time to cripple the only other nation close to marching us in power|0 Very true|1 Damn Those magnificent toothless hillbilly bastards held out as long as they could|0 Talk about trust issues|1 Hes going to say the results are negative no matter what the actual results are|0 I work in a hospital that still doesnt even have testing kits the Trump Administrations incompetency knows no bounds|0 Anyone can have the virus especially someone with no symptoms Being worried about getting infected now is pointless|0 Newsflash majority of countries in the EU have access to free healthcare and we have 150 million more people than you|1 In short we have decided to define the word pandemic such that the seasonal flu does not fit the definitionhttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresourcesbasicsabouthtml|0 Correct It only grows like that if you do nothing like the US If youve got your shit together like SK its a lot slower|1 Its not just older people in advanced nations There have been far too many infants whove already died in the US Infants and the immunocompromised who encompass ages from childhood to elderly are also at risk Its not at all false equivalency They want people to wake the fuck up to whats actually more likely to harm their country People are freaking out over this bit then completely disregard the flu The flu is the next likely KILLERas in numbers here pandemic Even without it were talking tens of thousands of deaths in America alone Its not a merciful blow of death Were not pumping them full of morphine in hospice here Theyre sick as fuck Its an awful death Sure theres worse but theres sure as fuck better Anybody who disregards the flu dangers but only cares about Corona is an asshole Care about your fellow countrymen|0 It is a immunomodulator Ive specifically asked my rheumatologist about it last week because doctors on TV were saying people who take immunosuppressive drug have high risks of complications from coronavirus He told me not to worry about it because it does not really suppresse the immune system And thinking about it my white blood cells have alway been normal since Ive start taking it|1 Send them home for self isolation We dont need to catch every case How many deaths are acceptable|0 So it looks like Covid 19 is an agent of karma now|1 Poland also tests a lot People are freaking out there and hospitals are busy with tests|0 Alternatively they could just hold the games in empty arenas and have all the fans watch from home|0 The paper you linked provides affirmative arguments that the flu virus is more infectious in colder climates but it does not provide any evidence whatsoever that human behaviour has no effect To the contrary under the section The Flu Season point 1 is that we are more likely to keep our windows closed during colder weather and thus recirculating the flu virus That seems like an effect of human behaviour noIts good to promote science and reduce groundless speculation but insisting that people are making shit up for putting forward reasonable hypotheses is inherently antiscience|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Theyre taking mer entertaaainment Still good call and I support it|1 Apologies not trying to cause annoyance Have a nice day|1 I guess Im just lucky I started reading alternative news media back in December that talked about all this I took it to heart and Im glad I did Stay safe|1 Yep COOF|1 Coronavirus would never kill geralt This will pass Cue the flutes|1 This is predominantly Chinese data In the beginning mild cases probably didnt get a chance to be tested but once they got the hang of things they would test the whole family once one person got the virus So plenty of mild cases were getting detected and isolated sometimes against their will|0 Fuckin twat|0 Technically Alaska isnt geographically isolated Theyre connected to Canada They wont have to worry about people trying to cross state lines but they can worry about people crossing borders depending on whats going on in the neighboring Canadian province Yukon or even British Colombia for the southernmost part of Alaska|1 Yea Im def going to bed earlier tonight Cant do this to my body and cant stress myself out anymore|1 Over the next three months by the time 90 of US cases need ventilation there will be no ventilators the vast majority of those people die|0 Or You know At least make the damn test paid for|0 Tell her Yes and theres even a vaccine for the flu and treatments like Tamiflu Theres NONE of that for this one|1 Oh wow our health as a business model During a pandemic Well lets just hope the survivors arent the ones who were in charge prior Fingers crossed this bites those who hurt us in the ass|1 You do realize that most Americans cannot afford 400 dollar emergency fund let alone 1000 dollars right|0 He looked like he was going to vomit then a watched the CSPAN post broadcast not aired on the networks and two minutes of him sitting frozen in front of the cameras he goes are we good Takes a deep breath and goes Whooooooooo like he was recovering from running out of air Saw it on Twitter through reddit Too lazy to link but my point is he is starting to show increased symptoms of being a douchbag|1 I read somewhere a lot of people who dealt with the hantavirus scare in the 90s were still with the department of public health Im really impressed with how they are handling this and it makes me feel more secure|1 I got on rcoronavirus for the first time in a while and my god That was bad Nobody wanted anything to do with optimism just End of the world|1 Mods will need to work on keeping the subreddit balanced with news around the world keeping only the important posts I have faith in them they are doing a great work so far|1 They gave us the propaganda number|0 Please explain how does one make pennies on karma|1 Ya know lots of people rely on Amazon for all sorts of things Business relies on them to keep things running especially small businessIts not just need ma trinketAdditionally keeping businesses running is crucial to maintaining economy Would you rather Amazon be laying people off right now like many small businesses are having to doDo you want so badly to see big business fail that youre OK with people losing their jobs Or perhaps can we see this as a positive thing that there are 100k opportunities for people to move into I have friends and family who work service jobs and their businesses are pulling back heavily one company just let 250 people go and they and will likely go under Ive forwarded this to them as this is comparable pay to what they were earning already Im glad theres an opportunity for them to not go broke but to continue making money and most likely with benefits and some security|1 Probably the best course of action my wife is an ICU RN and I work at the airport this is our plan as we feel like were more exposed than most professions|1 The coronavirus seems like an absolute delight in comparison|1 FineWhere are the masks Where is the PPE for our healthcare workers China claimed that all 40000 of the emergency forces sent to Wuhan had full equipment and their infection rate was 0 Our doctors and nurses Were going to lose some at this rate The factories shouldve been started 2 months ago Lets not waste another day This is war Get on it Continued inaction on this is criminally negligent and I expect them to be held accountable for it|0 Lets start up a bidding war for our votes Do I hear 3000|0 Yeah right I am totally convinced by a random redditor|1 Omfg thats the best idea I have ever heard Although we have so few test here that genuinely sick people cant even get tested When they say no should I just ask to see their manager Please advise|1 Did your sickness come in waves There were at least 2 days where I woke up and felt 100 recovered only to have it come back worse within 24 hours It was absolutely odd never had anything like that in my life I had this strange feeling in my head too for at least 5 days almost felt a bit high but Im not congested or anything just feel absolutely wiped out|0 Physical activity is a huge help for me I can highly recommend this Had times where when I finish my exercise session Im laughing cause I just feel so good|1 If you cant beat em join em then you can beat everyone|0 I frequent a UK message board and its a lot of people saying its nothing worse than the flu More people die of other stuff The Chinese made this It really blows my mind|0 Thanks I appreciate it Were doing our best trying not to stress ourselves out or the kids too much but remaining vigilant|1 The pandemic would not go away but a worldwide quarantine would slow its spread enough that the hospital system could handle any new cases So yes|1 Same It seemed like a novel I would read Then when they mentioned quarantined and the upcoming Olympics I could picture how the book would go in my mind Now I am very startled And not as entertained|1 I read today about the potential for a fecaloral route to infection Is that being taken seriously yet or is it still just theoreticalAlso thanks for responding Im glad to hear that Im on the pessimistic side of things at least as compared to experts especially considering that Im not all that worried concerned but still sleeping well at nightIm curious have you and your colleagues been stockpiling n95 masks for personal use|1 That would explain the frightening videos of people having those convulsions|0 for EMS its pretty much business as usual for now there are much worse illnesses which almost make me shit my pants just thinking about transporting a carrier Corona is not one of them|0 And they charge money from their people South Korea government is freaking chinese dog They sent their all masks to china and north korea Now South Korea shortages on masks Dont fucking believe what south korea media write or saying South Korea will shut down all outside SN like the youtube and facebook like freaking china Now chinese saying they are not responsible for corona virus Corona started at 2019 china is the only place had virus You will hear South Korea government will say Korea is the starting point of this Virus because they are chinese dog|0 The knowledge if the extent of this pandemic is so frightening the authorities are hiding it|0 Confirm by two positives|1 If your actual wedding date is super important to you in Texas you can file for an informal marriage and choose the date you presented each other as married Thats what we are doing what we are doing after this whole thing is done Its the same as a formal just without going through the whole formal court house thing All you do is sign a declaration that you both agreed you were presenting each other as married since that day|1 This sub is less suppressive than rcoronavirusAmericans would not take kindly to any type of forceful government intervention That would lead to RAPID escalation in The States potentially exacerbating an already awful situation This disease is so far ahead of the CDC and administrationwe will get to be the experimentoh joyEdit diction|0 Isnt people supposed to pay for those tests Not surprised if thats the case since not everyone has the funds to pay for it and they might be better spent in treating it|1 No its not|0 Thanks Stay safe yourselfPeople have actually been quite good at taking preventative measures out here in my experience I am feeling optimistic|1 Sorry Im kidding they suck balls|0 Good thing no Means most people arent dying|1 Is this our reichstag fire|0 Europeans on the internet in a nutshell lol|1 Be sure to write a song called I die inside its too good to miss itll probably go viral|0 In other news Flint Michigan notices no discernable change|0 Homeland Security has a large stockpile of masks field hospital and a34 billion attached to fema All our pres has to do is declare a national emergency|0 What is really going on Enlighten everyone please|1 VIEW FROM OUTSIDE THE USAHonestly I have been following other governments responses And the US CDC and the US NIH seem to be the MOST pessimistic and most prepared Many other governments are still talking about defeating the virus In the worst cases like Indonesia they think God is protecting them I dont know what Cambodia is saying but maybe they think their dictator will protect them somehow The US CDC is pretty clear they expect human to human transmission in the United States They think a global pandemic is likely They say that their strategy is to slow the spread of the virus they even backed away from using the word containment anymore in terms of their communications They say this is likely to become a community virus Also the US seems to be the MOST proactive in screening They are getting ready to screen people who have flulike symptoms but test negative for the flu I havent heard any country take that step although apparently in places like the UK and Australia if your doctor is really worried about you they can order a test Not sure how that would happen in the US Apparently even in China outside of Hubei they are only testing people that have a connection to a confirmed case or have travel to Hubei Also it appears that the travel ban from China was fully backed by the CDC and NIH it wasnt just a political decision Remember South Korea and Japan never imposed a full ban Oops I think the US CDC and the NIH have been right on in their response considering this is a new virus and resources are limited You have to remember in the beginning of December the world didnt even know this virus existed|0 Horrible stuff hasnt even gone down and I wish for my normal life back|0 Hot damn that virus sure is hardCORE|0 It has already started Most new cases in Beijing Shanghai etc the last few days were from other high risk countries Those include foreigners and overseas Chinese|0 Latest R0 I read today was at 311 Ill update with link of I can find source|0 They held not one not two but I believe THREE war bond parades when advised not to I think deaths attributed to spread caused by the parades was in the neighborhood of 50000 They ran out of cemetery space and had to dig long ditches to bury people The African American community had to rely on catholic nuns who went into their neighborhoods to aid the sick and dying for the most part and it was generally just a complete shit show of death and despair Then WW1 ended and most people forgot about it|0 Better off working on a cargo ship Youd make more|1 It makes perfect sense virus affects people differently|1 Its so much worse than that today than yesterday|0 Its ok These will be the same friends pounding on your door begging for food and shelter as the zombies run after them You had a great proactive idea|1 That was nice of them they are giving up some profits for it too|1 singapore has 30C already and the virus is spreading as lucky as we are if anything well discover it becomes stronger with high temperatures at this point nothing would surprise me anymore|1 I dont see much saying they were actively trying to spread the virus though Ive known of some nutty churches that also believe in bringing about the end times but that usually just means voting for a certain political party|1 Thanks for this|1 Pretty much every TV Newspaper and media outlet except the infotainment placed here in the USA are saying exactly that|1 Yo mamanWait were not avoiding yo mama|1 I wish I could upvote this more than once I have elderly neighbors and I checked on them yesterday to see how they were doing They are worried I offered to go to the store for them if they give me a list but they said they did pick up some things and are okay in that area I was kind of relieved because I have health issues myself and I am trying to avoid stores at this point but I would have gone in a heartbeat if they wanted me to I did pick up several things with them in mind when I did my own quarantine shopping last week so I am confident well all be okay My heart goes out to people especially elderly people who need to go to dialysis and have other medical needs at this time If you have elderly neighbors and are able to I would suggest buying a few extra items at the store when you go A bag of rice a few canned items a loaf of bread a few pieces of fruit and a crossword puzzle book can go a long way and show someone you care Also giving them a phone call just to check up on them would greatly help during isolation There are many elderly people who do not access the internet like younger generations do and any contact with people can be uplifting in many ways|1 This is why its so important to close indoor functions involving many people The risk is not linear at all|1 Something like 93 of SKs infected are younger in the age ranges that have a 02 rate of death which would suggest that remaining 7 have a fairly high rate of deathSKs strain just isnt widespread enough to be killing in large numbers yet because of where it started|0 Dear fucking USshit doesnt work like that with a pandemic idiots|1 I had a buddy freak out because he didnt know how to invite me to an eventDude call meHad a buddy freak out because I didnt know that he had recently had a kidDude people have been having kids for a long time Oh you had a kid Congrats was perfectly fine response when I was growing up|1 God my cousin just said the exact same thing to me and Im like do you NOT see whats going on in Italy|1 Not only killing older people mostly killing older people Also a lot of families like mine live with or near their grandparents and if the elderly in your family depend on you it becomes very unlikely that if you get it you can keep it for yourself Most of us arent really scared for themselves they dont want to get it to avoid infecting others|1 Work here Entirely precautionary mostly a drill to see if we have to do it more No confirmed cases in the office|0 Well thats reassuring|1 Id be most concerned about your 3 yo Its easyish for you and your wife to maintain good hygeine as adults but its almost impossible for a 3yo to have good hygeine They touch everything and try to put everything in their moutheyesnose etc|1 Its pretty hard for all the familys across America and Canada that save up and book trips to Disneyland to just throw that money away and cancel I can definitely understand future bookings slowly down but people probably feel too committed with current bookings|1 Look up his history Guys a lunatic|0 Very useful info Thank you And wow it sounds like Italy is much more on top of things during this time I know you guys got hot hard too with the virus so definitely makes sense I think these assholes here are so comfortable with not making a big deal because everything is so up in the air here in the USA Some people are serious and taking precautions but the majority of companies and people dont give one fuck My supervisor is walking around with a cough and sore throat no fever but damn at a time like this they wont mandate that he stays home If he does stay home its unpaid and we risk losing our job Im going to definitely round up some folks and try to talk to the OM for sure and if not Im gonna try and get people to join in a walk out I just think even the majority of employees arent taking it seriously because its being so played down Ugh I thank you all for your answers theyve really helped|1 Yes the flu only started to drop slightly before this hit its still close enough to the peak to not change the math much Plus ICU usage for influenza can last many weeks after the peak|0 Id love to read this HK study Do you have a link|1 The sad part is that is that this will make them require medical attention so taking away the medical resources needlessly|0 protests are now basically impossible for the foreseeable future time for different strategies|0 Does wechat get a cut|0 Yes no one under the age of 15 has died|0 Life Center accepted a new high risk resident the day AFTER the first confirmed COVID19 case They have been incredibly irresponsible with handling the situation in addition to the larger systemic problems happening with regard to public health in the US|0 Same Im like plz god climate change|1 uasdaaaaaaa I love that Thats exactly where my 2nd post was leaning We need more posts like yours we all have a story thats yours I told mine others had opinions and others had stories in 2 sentences but they all matter and I like you hope in some way one of these stories will give guidance to another knowledge and wisdom We live in a hard cruel world and with whats happening right now where so many people dont trust government officials or feel like their voice isnt heard here is an opportunity to be heard to come together as we should Our country has had alot of hard blows but we always come together and unite as one We all have struggles and hardships some more then others some by choice other by circumstance but this is an epidemic that can affect anyone and we will learn from this and the knowledge we gain will pass from this generation to the next I so thank you for your words of wisdom and encouragement I wish you love and light and thank you for sharing |1 someIts so many people who just wear it as an accessory Barely anyone does it because he wants to help others everyone is out for themselves And most of them do jack shit The best use case was for sand storms not airborne pathogens|1 Im using the word whistleblower a bit liberally here I will admit|1 Ugh I had a couple family members send me videos of him interviewing on the news I couldnt even watch all of it And my family eats it up I could send them a million other scientific and medical sources but they listen to this hack over anything else|0 Communist can build things up quickly but it never seems to care about safety of people Just another normal day in China I pray the people who lost there lifes those|1 Coronavirus could kill 25 million Americans who would technically also be out of jobs|0 My girlfriend and most of her family have pretty severe asthma and her brother specifically has a reduced immune system What is the danger posed to young people ie early 20s that have severe cases of asthma What is the estimated effect that these kinds of preexisting conditions have on lethality Im finding it hard to find any information on this demographic specifically and Im concerned about whether or not I should completely separate myself from her for her own safety|0 Plot twist virus is racist affects Asian people more than others because Chinese scientists tuned their bioweapon on unfortunate prisoners not realizing they found a perfect weapon to kill specifically themselves|0 I believe he said they were beautifulTheyre there They have the tests and the tests are beautiful Anybody that needs a test gets a testhttpswwwcbsnewscomliveupdatescoronavirusoutbreakdeathtollusinfectionslatestnewsupdates20200306|1 What about mortgages The mention of rent was specific the lack of mention of mortgages was also specifically left out Any thoughts|0 I live in Arkansas and all the schools were just closed today My town has it set up where kids can get free breakfast and lunch at the townhall|1 Europe is where you can pay in Euros|0 Omg I saw someone post something about this the other day like the US is treating this like a physical threat from someone ignoring it will make it go away etc Instead of the reality that a virus is something that we have no ability to reason with ignore or stop It is a microscopic particle very effective at what it does|0 Sounds great at first but now what Do they just stay closed until a vaccine becomes available however long that may be|1 tbh beginning of feb I thought they had it contained Kinda picked on my friends for the missed call as I saw it Then the CDC announcement almost 2 weeks ago about its not if but when it gets here and that was like all systems go This isnt SARS or MERS It isnt staying in the 3rd world Its here Plus claiming it was made in a lab which it fucking was or more likely modified in one is getting shut down as a conspiracy theorist narrative|0 This is in my head now I keep it fresh with different tunes|1 You know how Google works right Do your own damn research Im quoting the CDC I am not a doctor or scientist I do however listen to them And right now according to the CDC food is not the thing to be concerned about So Ill stick with their recommendations over yours|0 Yup Keeps the bus drivers employed as well as the cafeteria workers preparing the meals So far the meal plans are x amount of fresh fruit x amount of milks and juices based off of number of days supplied Pudding and fruit cups PB and j with this they havent decided if they will make the sandwiches or supply bread peanutbutter and jelly ramen fresh veggies cheese sandwiches lunch meats pasta and saucebasically cheap meals that can be either made easily at home by parents or ones already made They also have been tossing around the idea of making food boxes up to do a weeks worth of food that can also help the parents eat as well Extremely smart of the district especially since they are welcoming any suggestions anyone in the community has to make this work Also I forgot to mentionALOT of locally owned restaurants are offering free meals to students during designated times every day|1 Same honestly refreshing to see this in rchinaflu|1 The system is showing its colors again at letting us see how rich people are the ones who are give the tools and effort to keep healthy while us Yeah theyre leaving us stranded Again|1 Yes The profs are remarkably quiet considering the danger they are in|0 Dont get me wrong Im one of the people wearing masks when I go out Masks arent a condom though you can still catch it|1 I understand the worry My mom is 84 and all the aunts and uncles i have left are over 70 My husbands parents are over 70 and his 93 year old grandmother is in long term care Theyre who i worry about|0 There used to be a magnitude bot Not sure what happened to it though I remember every time there was an earthquake thread it went nuts|0 Thats cool with me Hes a fuckstick anyways But for real STAY THE FUCK HOME YOU FUCKING MORONS Im at work right now at a tutoring center with fucking CHILDREN because people still want to bring their kids during a PANDEMIC and my shiteating boss refuses to close cuz muh profits or its a socialist hoax its not that bad what was the point of closing schools again Also many private schools such as Archbishop Coleman Carrol In miamiKendall are still open and having class WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK|0 Thanks for sharing the bit about the ad|1 With Trumps gag order on the CDC Dont bet on it See what you can pull from WHO I doubt theyll share the US numbers but they do show trends|0 Great idea|1 Do we cancel driving because of an accident Do we cancel drinking because of a death Do we cancel bacon because of heart disease|0 You should give it a shot terrific show|1 I can only apologise for my ignorant countrymenThe UK has actually gone to the dogs |1 I dont think the staff is over worked or supplies are running low in Hong Kong right now Its business as usual here so far Where did you get that from|0 Agreed People think they are more important than they actually are and go|1 Whats the difference between feminized plants Im so ignorant on the subject I dont know much on this Also why doesnt what weed we see not come with seeds anymore Does that mean feminized Or goshmuttering gibberish now|0 aha yes I heard France is advising not to give nonsteroid medicines for lowering body temperature it seems like Italy was doing this|1 Hey there long distance hugs to you Im sorry youre weighed down with this anxietyAs a way to cope ask yourself in each situation does my concern change the outcome If noticing that your family doesnt wash their hands makes you start sanitizing common contact points that could make the difference on whether or not you get ill But if its outside of your control like whether or not your brother washes his hands I suggest mentioning it then letting it go and just protecting yourself with good hygiene and sequestering yourself if possibleI dont think its crazy to be concerned but the amount of mental energy and time you devote to it can outweigh the benefits Remember that stress hurts your immune system Separate yourself from the stress instead of freaking out about details that are beyond your control|1 Even if what you are saying is correct and I am happy to concede that it may be the problem in my view is that China is painting a wilfully misleading picture In its official broadcasts the Chinese health authority has been calculating and presenting to the world a mortality rate based on the confirmed cases There has been absolutely no data from China on the number of suspected cases that have resulted in death nor has there to my knowledge been any explicit acknowledgement from Chinese officials that their method for counting fatalities is a counterintuitive one Perhaps more importantly there also does not seem to have been any effort made to communicate to those outside China that the existing official data regarding mortality rates may exclude a large number of heavily suspected cases and thus may be misleading this has consequences as with the Prime Minister of Singapores recent declaration to his people that the viruss mortality rate outside Hubei is just 02 I think that if China wanted to stop people like me from believing that they are trying to present the data in a deliberately misleading way they would publish two mortality rate figures one calculated using only deaths arising from confirmed cases and another including those deaths that are suspected to have been caused by the coronavirus|0 The festival which began March 4 and drew 10000 attendees throughout the weekMeanwhile up to 27000 participated in the LA Marathon along with thousands of volunteers and spectators on March 8th I dont think well get this same update from LA out of risk of the city looking incompetent|0 From data coming out of China only 123 need ventilators Im a Singaporean living in Hong Kong Its been interesting to see the different approaches both cities have taken to control the spread of the virus and it seems to be working in both places Both cities at one time had the most cases outside of China Their global Covid19 ranking is dropping fast If it wasnt for a few cluster out breaks as opposed to community infections this number would be fewer still Singapore is doing serious contact tracing and quarantining People dont wear masks HK people wear masks all the time and I assume keep their hands clean I think that either both are ways that work|1 Tends to work better with healthy lungs but yes it works The trauma surgeon at sunrise hospital ordered this in the ER when they had the MGM shooting|1 My manager is speaking with the powers that be tomorrow He also wants to talk to unions I would recommend u talk to ur union rep cuz if enough teachers do then they will also bring it up Got to start thinking of a plan to keep education going and figure a way for parents to manage having to be home suddenly|1 FUCK china is that better|0 Normalcy bias will remain for many until it happens to someone they know Dont take it personally just do whatever you feel you should be doing If it turns out never getting bad where you are and you overreacted thats actually the best possible scenario|1 I would think that there is not many labs that would want to run the risk of intentionally aerosolizing it Also they have a lot of questions to answer about this new virus and everyone is rushing to answer deeper questions about its method of action and physical structure|0 i thought tamiflu was ineffective against covid|0 Never seen shop owners so angry about being sold out|0 Damn dude It has been a rough day Did you have to|0 Will Xi scream racism|0 Because thats what your lessons are for fun|1 Will this new wave of closuresquarantines really make any sort of difference at this pointIt might be different between tens of thousands and millions It might not Disney just had a huge crowd last night We still havent seen the swell from all the crowds at the Jazz players autograph session OHare airport had a HUGE crowd the other night April is going to fuck us up|1 Me too I was just at the store and the standard stuff was out But the canned fruits and vegetables were only about half picked through Thankfully the coffee was still good because thats the one thing I forgot to stock up on and why I was at the store|1 Lots of goodreasonable updates but frustrated to see no restrictionsshutdowns as Quebec has implemented|0 Ive been sick for 10 days I was tested yesterday and awaiting test results At first I thought it was allergies so I drovepax I tried to warn Uber but they dont give AF If they dont care about the people who pay them they dont care about you|0 I work in urgent care My clinic doesnt have enough n95s because of manufacturer shortage Should my employer have stockpiled Yes But here we are You need me working more than you need an n95 yourself Saying they should have prepared is not really forward thinking when you yourself may end up needing health care I wont be working there anymore once we run out Think all of that through|1 Those people are human and they are reading this really feeling bad for them|0 Youre very brave to put any faith in the idea that Boris Johnson and his cronies will do what is right for the majority in this country|1 I stopped at the grocery store to get stuff for my wifes birthday dinner I expected the toilet paper and hand sanitizer to be gone but the fucking pasta Like every strand of speghetti These people are going to come out of quarantine weighing like 400 pounds From the looks of the carts around me I think people are using this as an excuse to stress eat a bunch of junk food|1 Ive been rereading this for about 5 minutes and I still have no idea what youre trying to say Is the plane a metaphor for the coronavirus From what Im understanding something about not risking getting on the plane|0 Youd have to be daft to assume its localized to anything but major cities first New York LA Seoul Tokyo Jakarta Paris TorontoVancouver London etc The Chinese around the globe are affluent and wouldnt dare spend time anywhere that isnt a world class city Economies around major cities are being dealt a heavy blow because there isnt a large influx of Chinese people spending their wealth|1 Not sure why you are being downvoted for highlighting that swamp creatures recent ghoulish behavior|0 It clearly takes weeks for the virus to fully unfold its deadly potentialPrepare for bad news from Germany UK and the US next Maybe the first death in the US will wake people up Although I fully expect people to blame it on age coexisting conditions and any other straw they can grasp again just so they do not have to feel uncomfortable|0 Name 1 reasonThey went on there knowing the risk|0 HKer here want to chime in on the work situation There are people at workbus drivers cashiers etc but almost anyone that can is working from home and government departments are barely functionalWe havent had a huge surge of cases but there is already massive damage and disruption to the economy I think many businesses will be shutting down for good in the next month or two|0 In their defense the crew is already stuck on a crowded boat bunking and working in close proximity 24 hours a day All in all it aint gonna make much difference|0 Pretty sure its warm in Miami and there are DEF cases growing down there|1 Its free real estate|1 As a dutchman living in Belgium for more than a decade I think the Netherlands are being smarter about this In Belgium schools are staying open but there will be no classes Thats just one of these stupid compromises Belgium is known for|0 Eh its vitamins vit c does jack shit anyways Ill grab a bottle though|0 Wait isnt he positive right now|0 We SHOULD have really good data China has been dealing with large numbers of patients infected with this virus for months There should be massive quantities of dataBut the incredible secretiveness defensiveness and duplicity of the CCP has left the world not knowing anything with any certainty In my opinion the actions of the Chinese leadership amounts to a crime against humanity|0 What does that matter Lets hear one of your wise theories Have you seen the age and healthcare conditions of the people its killed or are you just looking at numbers|0 Maby you just like peanut butter and water |1 Sex lots of it Bad luck if one is single though|0 Thanks for the input I hope you are doing okI have family who is EMS and the knots in my stomach are a real problem Im daily trying to coax myself out of the anxiety I feel towards the next few monthsHow are you handling it|1 What kind of logic is that How dare you you went and stimulated the economy now the stock market is tumbling|1 you can bet that people will start dying of undiagnosed cancer and other serious fatal illnesses due to no longer having the infrastructure to properly diagnose the populationpeople who feel ill will start being turned away and what could be caught early will be missed since they wont be priority cases this wont just go away in a matter of weeks or months this is going to persist for a very long timeanyone who plans on having a freak accident or shot or stabbed or overdose better just not because they wont be able to do anything for you mostly sarcasm but the sad reality edit also delivering babies at the hospital is probably out of the question during peek infection|0 karma is strong in 2020 you will gind a better job later wish you and your family all the best|1 For all we know those we count as recovered could all die in 6 monthsI always play Plague inc this way just when over half the population is infected i start putting massive points into lethality to kill off any cure efforts|0 Respect for elders is important and sadly lost in American society which worships youth and the dollar Religious communities do much better|1 Well sure Me too But macro news like this model are more useful to leaders|1 I have been reading every day about COVID19 in last week mostly medical case studies and other scientific sources of information So far I have not come across anything credible suggesting the virus stays within the body or has any long term effects after the infection is over Important reminder when reading scientific studies check the date A lot of papers are now beeing circulated supposedly describing COVID19 when they are actually describing the 2002 outbreak of SARS which had a much higher case fatality rateI would recommend to everyone to take scientific papers as a source of news Regular media is often blowing things out of proportion Like the case of a dog in China that had a mild positive result A lot of outlets immediatly jumped to Dogs can get it too when the actual reason for the result is much more simple The virus can survive on surfaces for a while and well a dog happens to technicly be a surface Dogs cant get but if an infected person sneezes on one that will obviously give you a mild positive resultx200BSeek out credible sources of information try to stay positive and do what makes you feel safe Im staying at home right now also bacause I have a mild cough and dont want to risk anything And most importantly remember you are not alone |1 Isnt chloroquine considered generally safe for the time perioddosages it would be used for The adverse effects seem rare Specifically retinopathy seems to be associated with more longterm use|1 I am amazed how many upvotes snarky worthless comments like yours get You offer nothing to this discussion except to downplay others Im guessing you were one of the early people calling others doomers|1 Japanese have everything to gain from their aging population getting wiped out Makes sense theyre not testing|1 Wait theres a cure How much do you say Do you accept prayers for payment |1 Thanks This is bothering me that people keep saying this|1 Thats really only part of the problem This is a collosal failure on the part of humanity really Like the multilateral cascade of errors is so complicated its like trying to figure out the root cause of racism and why it still exists Youll go in circles trying to piece it all together into a cohesive narrative that includes all the variables|0 Ha|1 Reality is that the bills will continue to roll in and have to be paid Reality is you wont get paid if you dont show up to work Reality is eviction for missed mortgage or rent payments Reality is the gov has made no move to address our REAL fears has made no move to offer real protections be it testing or debt forgiveness And so we take a deep breath and carry on as normal until another reality a VIRAL reality negates all of the others|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Thanks for sharing |1 Trump that prickly prick wholl Bury us all|0 Seeing how many people and leaders downplay andor ignore the impending Coronavirus situation really gives me zero hope that society will address climate change|1 Now the challenge for Italy is during the mass quarantine can they find a way to supply the residents If not it wont last long I have read a couple of heart breaking stories from Italy that the following supply can support peoples basic daily needs|1 He aint got symptomns Wtf did he get testedHow do I get tested|1 stay safe truckers we need you healthy|1 China is now making that promise come trueChina Mr Trump China|1 As long as you know the difference between hoarding and preparing People who panicked and bought more than a 30day supply of anything are absolute assholes in this situation|0 Its the ignorance that is the problem|0 A local brewery sent me an email last night They have a huge beer hall that has capacity for thousands of people They have like 50 taps and a full food menu I assumed the email was to let me know they were shutting down Nope In fact the exact opposite The email was to let everyone know that theyre still open and offering anyone who comes in 15 off on all items I cant understand the stupidity|1 Ive never eaten a pangolin but I imagine they are delicious|1 and while were at it lets force someone low on the totem pole to resign that should look like a legitimate response|0 Not massively surprising|0 I like your optimism and hope youre right and at the same time it reminds me of my aunts corollary to Murphys Law he was an optimist|1 I think his intention should be appreciated by the ones he cared aboutStill I also upvoted the one you commented on Hoping hisher comment will remind other people not to do this|1 The irony|0 Ah yes the classic reverse Brady Bunch|1 Thats the best I could find Obviously getting anything credible out of China is a chore I dont think its any less credible than other things weve seen It does make sense to me that theyd still take them to a hospital and theyd have masks because of all the other chaos going on at the moment due to COVID19 Its total FUBAR over there so they arent going to be able to handle even nonvirus things like they normally would|0 I just hope that it will plateau soon and that Spain and the US dont follow ItalyWhy would US not follow this trajectory We literally have Republican congressmen recommending folks to go to restaurants and governers tweeting selfies from restaurants|1 Good for you More people need to do this|1 Announcing the next stage of the UKs strategy the chief medical officer for England said on Thursday that only hospital patients would now be formally checked for the virus It is no longer necessary for us to identify every case and we will move from having testing mainly done in homes and outpatients and walkin centres to a situation where people who are remaining at home do not need testing Professor Chris Whitty added The plan puts Britain at odds with international advice issued by WHO which repeated appeals for efforts to track and trace all coronavirus cases on FridayWTF UK You are gonna drown in this if you dont act now|0 Thank you so much for going to the trouble of sharing thisIm sure it was not easy for youI hope your friend and her family will all be fine |1 Previously on The Walking Dead|0 Well its not an hotspot of many people from different countries but realistically i doubt it matters much But who knows hardly anybody knows what is gonna happen Im not getting the feeling the western world is taking it as seriously as China is for example And that kinda scares me that China is more cautious than the west|0 Good call|1 Hopefully its Kiefer Sutherland|1 It should be said that the amount of quinine in modern tonic water is far too small When used to treat malaria in the past the quantities were much higher I wouldnt expect it to have any measurable effect|1 Canada is one of the largest producer and exporter of agricultural products in the world There is no food shortage here and the virus will not decimate crops or cattle So obviously theres no need to hoard goods|0 And your solution isI dont have one I think it is going to be a real problemTheyre likely already planning some sort of triage system in medical centershospitals|1 Hell CDC puts it at tens of millions in the USA ALONE|0 Theyve been quarantining the internet since FOREVER now where have you been The great firewall of China Mass censorship etc|1 httpswwwthevergecom201511179750048ldtloopholefdahearingtheranoslabtestsOK so LDTs are a known loophole and the FDA has announced its intention to close it but hasnt really done much about it I guess a lab could run a coronavirus LDT but it would be on somewhat shaky legal ground|0 Im gonna sound real privileged saying this but if you compare my financial status to some of my college classmates are making going into engineering CS or business theyre making salaries that are already close to the six figure mark while were six figures into the hole and will stay in the hole for the next decade If we loved money so much we wouldnt be financially shooting ourselves in the foot and would have chosen a different white collar profession to pursue instead|1 Thats what I meant Thank you for the response|1 Your leadership will be an inspiration|1 If I remember correctly adult neurogenesis only happens in very few specific areas of the brain and they exclude the brainstem|0 Schools are closed down in my country for the past 2 weeks but kids hang out in night clubs and bars all day night so literally no point|0 Who are you hoping will give this speech I havent seen anybody yet in this global drama capable of claiming enough moral high ground to make a speech like this The with us or against us speech in my experience has always been nothing but a divisive political tool used to shore up your side against their side exactly the opposite of what is needed here We are facing the most basic common enemies of humanity sickness and death It we cant find ways to get past our differences to fight this we might as well let the plague wash over us were done speech or no speech|0 Ikr Is there a park named Rest and Relax State Park Lol|1 The live germ capital of the world is more like it|1 Anyone want to explain the logic of doing this Madness and theres thousands of them in public and you dont know who|0 Uh oh thats does not bode well for my investment account|0 These folks welcomed us last year when we moved in I lived here alone until my husband moved down and the old guy next door checked in me every few days I have some mobility issues he came wobbling over on his walking stick to see if I needed help Theyve helped us with finding local services and theyre just so friendly I cant bear to think of these sweet active curious 86 year olds getting this ugly virus I believe Americans are generally goodhearted and generous people when theres a crisis They will help when they see an opportunity|1 The amount of concentration and singular focus on money it takes to become a billionaire makes it necessary that they are a complete soulless sociopathBasically all ultra wealthy people are sociopaths but not all sociopaths get wealthy And some millionaires are ok people|1 So basically kinda like Patrick Stars sister |1 They should also freeze all student loan payments not just interest until this crisis passes or at least calms down If they dont that will be another colossal bubble that will pop|0 Strike is the best call Ive seen for a while And do it before the government pass their legislation next week to force schools to stay open even when they want to close|1 Science is brainwashing|0 We are very small country 8 million on a 500600km stretch of land If this virus gets here and spread this going to get us on our knees Man I need to fly to Amsterdam on the end of March i hope they will let me back in |1 Ive been looking for one and will keep you posted Please do the same for me|1 I have too many to mention but to stay relevant to this threadScience VS is probably my top pick for objective facts on all sorts of topics The host can be a tad cheesy from time to time with an eye roll of a joke But I find that quality charming|1 I just read that too and came here to post the link Thanks for posting that I will go with the NYT as a source the rely on regarding this issue|1 Yep all true|1 Fair enough but the people Ive seen are just wearing regular dusk masks and latex gloves which isnt safe for people like me with a severe latex allergy|0 Two people displaying symptoms in local Tesco Express earlier today as they were furtively stocking up Dry unproductive coughing Next 2 or 3 weeks are gonna see many of us get it Stay away from your elderlyimmune suppressed relatives and friends people|1 Seriously I live in washington near all of the deaths and infections its really scary|0 They told you he has the flu without testing for the flu Ask for a sinus swab That will tell you if its Influenza A or B|0 Yesterday I was at the supermarket and saw a dude with a booger Am I gonna die now|0 Im terrified I live near three hospitals one with a CV patient|0 Yeah but lets not close down schools and shit|0 Six people have died from novel coronavirus nCoV infections in the United States as of March 2 with over a hundred cases registered nationwide All of the deaths occurred in Washington State having been linked to patients in a nursing home in Kirkland According to Washingtons state health officer Dr Kathy Lofy 14 cases were reported in King County and four more cases in Snohomish County while another 29 cases are still awaiting test results Washingtons public health laboratory is capable of testing about 200 suspected cases a day Source httpsthemilsourcecomsixdeadfromcoronavirusinus2020httpsthemilsourcecomsixdeadfromcoronavirusinus2020|1 America have a large reservoir of poor desperate people to do dangerous research on Totally voluntary of course|0 Hey were planning on being home for weeks Im gonna get bloody bored Im charging an old Nintendo ds right now and an Xbox and wii are getting hooked up to the tv tomorrow And were also readers So kinda gfy with the judgy shat|0 Because better safe than sorry|1 Wow Do you have proof of this Cause that would shake the world|1 I think youre giving Boris too much credit as he probably isnt in on the joke But from a behavioural science perspective and those doing the actual work you might not be wrong|1 ICU net 83 despite the deaths so assume over 200 new ICU admits Deaths usually happen in ICU|1 I thought it wasWhite false peace Red war Black famine and disease Pale death|0 CDC doesnt have funding and the pandemic response team was gutted by the adminOh and the Republicans are blocking emergency funding cuz reasons|0 Is this a risk factor|0 COVID19 is caused by a coronavirus SARSCoV2 while seasonal flu is caused by influenza which is from a different family of viruses Many people infected with SARSCoV2 experience mild respiratory symptoms which may actually seem more mild than those experienced by seasonal flu sufferers It is believed that the incidence of COVID19 infection is likely greater than what has been reported because those with mild symptoms may not seek medical attention However COVID19 symptoms can be more severe for others and the risk factors for more severe illness are not yet well understood for this new virus The WHOhttpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronaviruses and CDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsummaryhtml recommend thorough handwashing and avoiding infected individuals to prevent both types of infection|0 If this were true they would have been let into China earlier|1 Yesterday i was with family talking about the schools being closed etc They were saying how many people have it in our state anyway 1 or 2 Like try 40 Yesterday there were 20 some And they ignored me Maybe if your job is to travel and your boss told you to stay home until may that would indicate that its serious I dont ever remember schools closing up for weeks The day after 911 i went to class and work Wtf|0 France stopped testing|0 My parents company is already not doing well since they work in tourism and well tour groups out of China are not a good idea right now|0 If you stopped reading only propaganda media outlets you would see|0 Whatever the controlled media states think the opposite They want us to continue to be obedient and go to work When the media reports its really bad it will already be Thanos time|0 Seven people from one company all contracted it from one of the employees Thats about as close to passing encounters as you can get Certainly far from familial relations with hugs and kisses of family members Probably shaking hands and sitting in the same conference room or something|1 Its frustrating only 2 weeks ago this sub had a varied and balanced content of all major updates globally now the sub is being spammed with obscure American updates and resposts flushing away important news for other countries Its frustrating and annoying but I do understand Reddit is a American dominant userbase|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 This is exactly why it will be important to know when one comes out of selfisolationThis also concerns parents of children The course of the sickness will be mild for children and young adults But what of the parents what of the siblingsHave clear guidelines been issued anywhereObviously a person with symptoms should selfisolateBut after recovering how many days before one returns to work Virusparticles have been found in recovered personsObviously not after 1 day 3 days 5 daysObviously if the child has a sister or brother then they should also not go to school Is this obvious Is this being recommended or enforcedOne parent stays at home to take care of the sick child What about the other parentSevere symptoms can take 14 days to incubate in older adultsCommunal transmission can be slowed and controlled if meaningfull guidelines are determined|1 These hands are registered weapons lmfao nice|1 Also wearing an eye protection I assume Otherwise the MNP is only partly helping|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfcv0tzhowturkeymanagednottohavecovid19casesfjrpn7ncontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I cant read that bad grammar|1 This is also my experience I now inform myself through medical papers so that Im not reliant on potentially shitty advice I wasnt always like thisSome doctors actually really appreciate a good discussion with a well informed patient I had one doctor tell me I was a very good patient after countering her initial advice Shes amazing humble and really helped me a lotOther doctors refuse to even listen as Im just a patient so how could I know anything My old doctor friend from school told me I was reading papers meant for 2 of all doctors SoI avoid those doctors as theyre arrogant and therefore dangerous idiots|1 2019nCov Cases requiring hospitalization 1820That too needs a large assteric next to it Assuming 100 of infected go to seek treatment at this point is beyond ignorance its simply known to be false The german businessman that contracted the NinjaVirus from a bidniss meeting thought he had a fucking cold|0 Trump is petty and predictable Hes campaigning thats it|0 One thing the corrupted subs wont allow is cell phone footage You see a firsthand account of a person laying dead in the market or on the sidewalk or of a confrontation at a quarantine station and people delete it for being an unreliable source such as a citizen rather than a journalist who must only write what the government approves over there I can believe that 1 out of 100 videos are faked but I cant believe 100 out of 100 of them are|0 Yes|1 YAY Sombrero Whoop whoop|1 Some place in China rewards people who go to see doctor with fever symptoms By almost 150|1 All I know is that when the shelves are bare people die Well get through this|0 Im sure the bank has a Repo man whose not on board with throwing his weekly paycheck away and would love to come repo my car|1 Nope I have not been anywhere but the grocery 3 times There are no masks or gloves to be had here no toilet paper either LOL but I had a few rolls|1 Perhaps but I dont think she planned her death just to help the CCP come up with a plan to lower the impact of his deathAnd ultimately sadly this woman will be forgotten long before Li Wenliang His death is still trending and it remains to be seen how the CCP will play it off Easiest would be to defer all responsibility to local officials|0 Washington state herenot worried I am American I come from a people who lose 647000 a year to heart disease and still stand in line at KFC for a piece of fried chicken between two donuts|0 Wtf is happening with this country|0 Goofy must be stopped his Hyucks have infected anyone who heard them|0 Good My dad may finally start to take all this seriously|1 Before you go saying the economy is the main driver you need to understand where the vast majority of medical supply originates If China shuts down then the world will be at a near collapse of supply to fight a pandemic Yup No way to counter the virus Basic care will start to break down as nearly all PPD sourced in some manner from China|0 Theres usually still some soap in it soap kills the virus|0 I think we all noticed it Hes not a prompter guy though and thats probably the most important speech of his presidency thus far So theres a possibility its nerves Itll be near impossible to hide if he is sick though so well know soon enough|0 This doesnt seem right 6070 could be infected but no additional measures to minimise such a high spread|0 From social media if is clear the general response from the retired many of whom feel that the NHS and revalidation requirements have pushed them out is Fuck that Go back into the frontline to deal with a disease that is worse in older people|0 They are married That means separate beds no sex and maybe kisses but dont count on it|1 My state in Australia has tested 2023 people for 9 positives one of which was probably infected in the US Population just under 26 millionhttpsww2healthwagovaumediaFilesCorporategeneral20documentsInfectious20diseasesPDFCoronavirusCOVID19dailysnapshotpdfIf USA had tested the same per population youd be at 255668 tests|1 Lmao at posting a criticism of specific issues within a working system to having literally no gatekeeper on pseudoscience|0 From the CDChttpswwwcdcgovquarantinequarantineisolationhtmlIsolation and quarantine help protect the public by preventing exposure to people who have or may have a contagious diseaseThe Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC in collaboration with the Department of Homeland Security has implemented Federal travel restriction procedures to protect travelers and the public from communicable diseases that constitute a public health threat|1 The study is doing its best to adjust for the fact that confirmed cases are biased Still it is possible they are being too conservative with such an adjustment|1 Hes always been incompetent|0 Except the people on wall street arent stupid Theyre not going to wait until November to sell if the shit hits the fan now You cant hide a huge sell off|1 I got a job offer from Celebrity Cruise lines Im American they offered me 2000 a month no health insurance no overtime I would be an OFFICER Directly under the captain in the hierarchy in charge of the safety of navigation and all passengers onboard I work for an American company now where even after taxes I make 5x that and my contract IS NOT high paying compared to most in america Its nearly slave labor on those boats if I was offered that as an officer I cant imagine how little the average staff makes It makes me so mad how the industry basically survives from Americans but all cruise ships are foreign flagged except the Pride Of America in Hawaii I could go on and on |1 great minds think alike you beat me to it|1 Almost seems like a Scorched Earth policy at times kind of a If we go down so do youChina really needs to come clean with the true numbers it is becoming obvious from what info is leaking out via citizens that they are well completely overwhelmed and this is becoming very worrying|1 Well perhaps there are many jobs out there Im sure that doesnt require too much contact just gonna know what resources to go to|1 I LIKE YOUR ASS YOUR LYING MORGAN|0 What about helping its own citizens to doctors as well Healthcare is so unaffordable that corona can spread faster if it isnt treated and contained when needed|1 I definitely agree that timing is a strategy and one that should absolutely be deployed But for me it shoukd have been a later measure rather than the firstThe second thing that worries me is that this plan seems to deviate massively from other countries who have had real world experience from the SARS outbreak I dont buy the culture excuse|1 He knows that remaining silent would kill thousands more So he remained silent Sorry but fuck him Unless he was briefed on how sounding the alarm might crash the economy because the banks have no cash then maybe the pros outweigh the cons|0 Your beautiful message and art made me cry Im so touched and totally agree with having more empathy Every time I read we are one I start crying again You are an awesome artist and wonderful person|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Maybe not a expert but I can understand that if any of remedies worked they would be stated as effective by science literally a conspiracy if you believe big pharma is hiding this info selectively choosing studies meanwhile 90 of them disprove it is not science and is a selective bias|0 USA discussing the price of the vaccine that is not yet produced in order to create incentive for the labs to do research Because lives dont matter SO TRUE smh|0 Just because you had an education it doesnt mean you are intelligent Look at Einstein great at his profession but the dumbest idiot when it came to health and so forth Ironically I have met students who were smarter in a plethora of topics than professors You want to test it out Ask any professor of yours how do you use the latest technology whether phones apps ect Majority of them are tech illiterate|0 Other studies have shown this beforeThe question is the degree of infectiousness of asymptomatic carrier We know they can easily infect people in close sustained contact like family members the question is to what degree do will they infect random people in different situations|1 If that doesnt show how dirty people and how they are the reason for this then idk what does But nothing is going to come of it after it passes|1 Tack on another 3 months for the awful eye tattoos|0 Do they also give you guarantees that you will keep your job or that it wont reflect in your next perf evaluation heck even that you can get your pay assuming you are a freelancer What if they are living paychecktopaycheckI absolutely agree with the sentiment but it is far too easy to judge people without putting ourselves into their shoes as we do not know their circumstances|1 Yeah you have a good point|1 lol i read that same article asking the exact same question and focused on the exact same lineIf its all you got i would say fuck it and go for it if you got clorox or something else tho use that if your cleaning your phone im pretty sure alcohol will be fineIm anxious and want facts too youre not alone|1 I love it but it wouldnt work Trump might take the bait but White House staff are too used to coming in after him to correct whatever he just promised|1 Fucking hell dont be ridiculous Its literally their job|0 You can consider it wrong were allowed to have differing opinions and isnt that what this is all about fighting for the freedoms to have a different opinionIll take the accusation of snark though Not narcissism nor ignorance though just my opinion and well informed on balance I think Downvotes commence though|0 I get that Im kinda worried about my grandma too she has a preexisting condition and is therefore at risk Makes me even angrier that the government still tries to downplay everythingOf course we dont need a panic but I know so many people who think the virus is a joke because of the government and the fact that noone died yet that they arent following any of the recommendations |0 perhaps uk but afaik they have tested a lot of folks and are doing random testing as well|1 Again there are very very few actual confirmed infected cases because of a lack of testing|0 Pretty sure that when all this comes out there will be riots and major public disorder The administration are way out of hand|1 Same situation Im so mad at how they are handling it|0 An unpopular opinion can someone please explain why should not we let the prices rise as quickly as necessary to keep the stuff available to everyone As soon as panic buying subsides prices will come downOtherwise panic buying will just empty the shelves and STILL result in massive shortages for large portion of population|0 Critically low Suppliers cannot keep up with the demand and a lot of materials for PPE come from China We are not following true protocol in all areas I can tell you that I moonlight in a nursing home side note for spare cash and there theyve rationed the supplies to one mask per nurse per shift The mask is basically garbage after two hours The hospitals have slightly more supplies but we are failing fast We are begging people to stop hoarding masks I know this will get downvotes because no one wants to believe it but we need them to put on patients who come in sick We dont have any at two hospitals for the sick patients and they are coughing and spreading right now mostly influenza but this is going to change You can make masks using certain ski masks scarves etc if you are worried while out in public but we cannot wrap a patient in a scarf|0 You need the goverments to ask all communities to help those who need it its not acceptable someone with these conditions go to work these days Communities must help them|1 Weird flex but its your funeral|0 Weve not done anything crazy We went to our local Costco today and stocked up on lucozade and red bull usually keep some in the house but was running low Were going to make sure were stocked up on insulin and testing strips etc In all honesty just making sure we have in what we need in case his bloods are low|1 How do you know what mask I wore and its limitations I was in the Army for a long time I worked in full MOPP 4 for 95 of my work I am a highly skilled and trained lady when it comes to chemical and biological warfare I absolutely was protecting others my family and the air I breathe I didnt think I was rude in the slightest Not only is your comment rude in itself its ignorant as well|1 Im from Poland its official My sister is mad because of lockdown In Gniew city the police takes home every teenager who will be found outside of home|0 Yeah No one gets it anymore because the spread reaches its peak This could stop at less than 100 because as more people get it recoverthere is less probability of encountering an infected person Id look to Iran to see what this looks like|0 Its not that they dont like Asians they dont like themselves Ive always thought the Asian population is insanely gorgeous Beautiful eyes mesmerizing black hair|1 Singapore MOH just held a press conference today and are stated they have seen no evidence of Airborne spread That if that was the case they wouldve seen exponential growth of casesOr maybe their much warmer and more humid weather is stopping airborne spread|1 By trying to figure out who should get it and who should not get it checking statuses updating statuses listening to appeals and all the other administration involved in that you end up spending a huge amount of money doing absolutely nothingOne of the huge benefits of UBI is you save money by making it universal and not having to do all that administrative work Citizen heres your money end of story|1 Bruh got scared for a second and read 97 confirmed positive|1 The weird thing is they LARPd this exact situation last year httpwwwcenterforhealthsecurityorgevent201aboutI guess the US was just under the bleachers getting high instead of participating|0 Me too My partner thought my anxiety was making me too focused on this but thankfully hes realized how deeply this is going to effect society as a whole He still is the pragmatic voice of logic at least now he also acknowledges that its going to be a shit storm in the US|0 Others do handle prebagged at some point and that is the type of produce most often implicated in food poisoning Im just not havong fresh fruit or or veg|0 After this whole thing blows over in one or two years remind me to never listen to CDC If we have another outbreak hopefully ppl will start doing their own research|1 It can be most easily and affordably extracted from tree bark so not reallllly|1 Theyd rather go bankrupt then go bankrupt and kill a childYour use of then instead of than here threw me for a real loop for a second lol|0 Its per household in this statement not per person Some people live alone but some people have six kids so it skews the numbers quite a bit compared to 1000adult 500kid that is in other proposals|0 Cancel your trip to Europe You should leave wherever you are and go to the moon|0 this is happening all over the country in Dallas we just had our first death and they were not able to get tested now the guys wife is showing symptomsthis country needs to get its fucking act together|0 With todays data our death rate rises to 717|0 To reduce this threat to humanity There right there That phrasing Thats what giving people the scares Its making it sound like this virus is going to wipe out all of humanity Shit like that sentence doesnt help the situation|0 Also it doesnt seem to grow quickly in countries outside of China so farAFAIK theres little to no humantohuman spreading outside China|0 Right but that was for less than 24 hours and was for a terrorist attack Thats a pretty different scenario than shutting down travel for weeks or months at a time|0 Hospitalization is much better when you can find a bed in a hospital|1 Singapore is a democracy even if its not the fairest one Its leading party PaP has alot of similarities with the Republican party when you look at how it stays in control Though the methods are different there are definitely parallelsYall need to do some googling Singapore has three parties one of which has 8 seats In parliament They are a flawed democracy not a dictatorship|1 Dont you miss the good old times when you thought we had a chance of containing this and that Chinas numbers where accurate |1 Hospitals are going to overwhelmed if Florida doesnt test people |1 I dont think its a flu but i do think its not a bad virus People are overreacting A lot|1 Strolled through a Target on my lunch break to pick up a couple of antibacterial cleaners for home and work and overheard the workers in their mid20s stocking the shelves They laughed at the people purchasing cleaning supplies and mocking customers after they walked awayI almost felt like saying something but when I noticed them scratching their faces and working without gloves I thought they wont find any of this funny soon enough|1 He also said that the football match is no problem at all LMAO|1 Nope The ones people want to fight for are union healthcare plans where the employer pays a significant chunk of these costs The argument is if a company doesnt have to pay high fees for union healthcare then that money can go into their pay However if youve ever negotiated with a company you know they wont see it that way and there is no way in hell they will put every dollar that was going into healthcare into employee pay|0 Its not stupid its wrong False Misleading|1 Are you retarded What about measles smallpox the plague spanish fluthat literally killed MILLIONS these pandemics kill a few thousand|0 wow love everything about this Thank you so much for consolidating all data you have collected|1 Yep And Ill place bets on there being no miracles in NYC This place is a literal cauldron of viruses|0 They get it no people no money|0 Ive been screaming this since the beginning|0 Itll be like an antivaxer chickenpox party No big deal Might as well get the infections over with amiright|1 I hope people will listen This panic buying is going to severely impact on low income households Im lucky enough to be able to spend more on groceries if I have too and I did have to on my weekly shop yesterdayspent about 60 more than normal What will happen to the individuals and families who have no extra income to do this Between this and seeing many elderly people in the shop yesterday shopping made me very very sad|0 They are not even pretending to try to contain this shit anymore|0 I still have a dry cough 3 weeks later Its improved but still hanging on Body aches sore throat fever horrible cough severe fatigue No change in appetite no headache no vomiting no diarrhea I couldnt stay awake more than two hours at a time the first week I was sick fatigue and cough were my worst symptoms|0 Oh my goodness your poor SIL that breaks my heart Hugs to her|1 Looks good my recommendation being make your Y axis numbers larger Upon first glance it looks like cases and deaths are the same until you look closely and see that one starts at 1K the other 25K|1 some think everything he does is evilBecause it is If not out and out evil everything he does is definitely self serving|0 One of the things they do in Asia is tape a sheet of plastic over the buttons then clean it several times a day with dilute bleach solution 11000|1 Median age is closer to mid 50s Heres one study httpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003oldagesepsistiedpoorcovid19outcomesdeathReports coming in from NYC and SF France Sweden are all reporting that 50 of their patients in the ICU are under 50 or 60 This is no longer just an old peoples disease as it hits the west|0 When you finally come to realization that the United States is more corrupt than China time to wake the fuck up|0 Now is the time for Americans to unite and show kindness and peace It doesnt matter your age race gender political affiliation sexual orientation etc I feel like its going to be up to us ordinary everyday people to do whats asked to slow this and to reach out to others I encourage all of us to offer acts of kindness no matter or small Carry an elderly persons groceries to their car volunteer to help single mothers say a prayerdo something|1 Young people please post this article on your social media pages|1 Its probably a great janitorial job|1 The person walking slow in the beginning did he make it out alive|1 Oh I am aware of it both my parents were teachers and its one of the reason I fucking detest the claim teachers get paid too much because I cant tell you how many times my mom spent her own money to help kids at school have fucking shoes to wearIt just really never occured to me when stuff like this happen it could seriously and detrimentally affect kids lives beyond the classroom|1 You are jumping to a conclusion that is not validated in the dataVitamin C helps lymphocytes grow in vitroPeople with viral infections can have low lymphocytesInteresting a curious hypothesis worth testing on humansNonetheless the actual data on humans does not demonstrate a benefit Why Is low lymph count inconsequential to the disease severity Is it protective We dont know for sure but we know supplementation does not help in the aforementioned scenariosIf you boost lymphocyte count but more patients die have you created a beneficial therapy Youre suggesting theoretical stuff not backed by clinical outcomes Its very interesting but you cant recommend stuff because it theoretically might workthats what trials are for And all the vitamin c trials are negative so far|0 We do We also have hand sanitizing station placed outside every room and at the entrance and exit|1 Fellow Zonies Thank you for posting this It seems like everyone here is saying itll die out in the summer yet there is no conclusive evidence Guess we will have to wait out and seeI will say though another 115 degree summer WHILE having a 103104 fever sounds like absolute hell Praying that it plays a factor in mitigating the illness but I refuse to be ignorant|0 Smart little virus this is Infect the young Dupe the adults into thinking its the common cold Pass it on to everyone and everything that these kids touch in the run of 1 to 2 weeks And they run and touch a lot of thingsThis will go on for a long long time|1 Happy cake day|1 Wont hear me complaining Ill be too busy playing animal crossing if we can make this hold out another two weeks|0 Kinda like the world and global warming |1 No idea I know at least 1 is in the hospital all I know is about the standard that you need to meet in order to qualify for testing|0 Thats pretty much lesson of american mentality First ignore because thats easier then panic and in the mean time call people who rise alarm paranoid Current administration was gutting all emergency agencies from 2017 Now we have results No preparation no thinking in advance no stock pile of any emergency supplies zero So no surprise best thing they can do right now is not testing people so numbers dont look bad Shocking is not even strong enough word to express whats going on in US right now|0 s just busy or something Hes become part of my daily routine Youre throwing me off dr johnIts so nice to get honest information from someone who is level headed I wish there were more people like him in charge of running things|1 So youre trying to tell me that that I knew more about this in mid January than the CIA Bullshit There was clearly a stand down order across western governments Maybe it was economic but anybody looking knew it would kill the economy anyways The US military prepared all forces for a pandemic early on|0 Safe|1 Ah sorry Took it personally for no reason |0 The connection between Coronavirus Cryptocurrency and UBI For those with ears listenSo their goal all along has been a cashless society pure crypto so they can control the money supply 100 and see where every transaction takes placeThey needed a major virus like CV to spread probably totally fake to make people afraid of germs and viruses so they could implement the US cryptocurrency of their choosingThey need the ability to generate supply and demand for their new currency so they will implement a UBI system where they just give 1000 of their new currency to the poorest Americans just to build a foundation for it to spreadThese people are so fucking sick I wish I could find the evil minds who think these things upJust point them out to me|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I would love to know what spot youre talking about|1 How about candles Like people who have a few candles in their home does anyone know of the lung impact or the ACE2 impact of this|1 I noticed in a NYTimes article I think it was that one Chinese woman spent a whole month in hospital before she died So I suspect that after some time the death toll will rise somewhat comparative to the number or some fraction of people currently in intensive care I have ofc no idea if China treated this woman maybe differently than what they do now in Italy|0 Yeah and its not my right to say dont go as he is my authority figure or whatever Hes a really really good teacher but hes also a young hip traveler who doesnt want to be held back Not even by a virus I think a lot of people are either panicking too much or not caring This split will only increase the numbers|0 It shouldnt be our decision The government are failing in their responsibilities to lead the country Even if I take my kids out of school my husband travels to work on the train everyday I cant control that The government can|0 Yeah and as I live in Asia Im definitely not looking forward to their rising influence People are scared of Russia causing the next big war but I think itll be China ifwhen they make a grab for Taiwan and other disputed territories|0 As if were not an infected country now|1 This was always the ballpark range for a severe flu such as this anyone that said otherwise was not an expert It would potentially add an extra 1 million to the normal 25 million total annual mortality in America Very emotionally and financially disturbing but not the end of the world The main game is trying to keep your old family members alive and flattening the curve so no one gets turned away from hospitals which increases mortality a lot|0 Could we get a picture of this angel were all worrying aboutx200BDo update|0 99 of landlords wont do the same we all know this some companies should offer grace periods or let us go until this ends if they can afford to do so like S Korean companies are a lot doing but we know that shiet wont happen here Not even a fckn discount HyundaiKia owners in Korea were given 6 months free over there off their payments Ford|1 What if the stock guy at the warehouse is asymptomatic Up to 9 days on objects What if its on the food packaging Or even the food itself Even a total quarantine wont actually stop the spread of a virus this contagious Slow it by some percentage sure but not stop it You have to have contact with humans or things they touched or starve to death|0 Not arresting doctors who warn that the virus is an issue and needs to be taken seriously is probably a good start followed by not quarantining a city after most of the population has left|1 Selective testing and refusal to test potential cases could be argued as the primary source of misinformation|0 No But give people a 2 chance of being dead or a 100 chance of being homeless and not everybody is going to pick homeless|0 The horror stories you read about American health care are largely true When I was working at a larger employer with really good healthcare I still had an obscene out of pocket cost for some basic nonER scans and labs I needed done a couple years backIf Im one of those who gets Covid bad Hospital stay will almost certainly wipe me out and Im not in the huge chunk of Americans with nominimal savings|0 Thats not true Im in high school and according to my teachers the school is trying to take action to allow all students to leave school for a week so they can do a full clean of the school even though we dont have a known case The action theyre taking is requesting funding from the government for the cleaning|1 Im in Bothell Unbelievable that LWSD has not closed yet Today is day four here at Northshore|1 Shes not out anywhere She informed public health privately when they got the first hit on the second day of testing who contacted the patient and confirmed the diagnosis with one of the CDC testsRemember that they were allowed to test for the virus they simply were not allowed to coalate that info with the patient infoIf they didnt find any positives they would have been 100 fine and not told anybody anything|0 Check out the government website just google coronavirus canada it will be a top result Look at the updates page and notice the numbers they give 74 of cases are travelers 6 are close contacts of travelers It doesnt explain the other 20 at all|1 Please be civil Its rude vulgar or offensive|0 Yea because all the doctors get their masks from home depot lmao|1 i honestly dont want to believe thats a thing in china ive seen all the videos about it but it seems too dystopian or black mirroresque lolol|1 I want manners and politeness Theres no need to demand like that its really rude The man is just telling us his story|0 Even in Italy grocery stores are open You should be shamed|0 Oh but no Special person above deemed Craft stores as wants and not needs Away all of you mere mortals You need nothing but bread a shitter some TP and some water Stay home minions P|1 Does Joe Schmoe care Schmoe might be happy the platform is protecting his income without him appearing evil I cant see hosts moving to a platform with less protections|1 Youre absolutely right The clip was selectively extracted to make it seem like it was a criticism of the party itself Whoever that did it might have done so to make it seem that wayHowever instead of seeing it in that way why not just consider that this may actually bring some change or more support for the doctors I dont think thats an overreaction at all|1 thats symptomatic of a generation that never really lived through troubling timesThese generations do not exist If they are late 70s they would have known kids with polio kids who died from measles and other fun stuff They probably would have people in their family that died in war or had PTSD They might have even fought themselves in Vietnam They would have lived through the Cuban missile crisis and the near constant anxiety of global thermonuclear warMore significantly they would have lived through at least 3 influenza pandemicsAll this assuming they grew up in the US If they grew up somewhere more fun like Lebanon or Malaysia or Romania they would have seen revolutions and civil unrestThe complacency is more likely due to the fact that theyve seen all this and survived|0 You get it Thank you for your post|1 Damn so 2 in cancer immunity|0 Good luck Seriously Americans are being turned away from testing I would suggest calling the nearest big hospital to you and ask them about it You might also call your embassy for advice|1 He does a bit but then again we suspect it|0 Agreed|1 It s not silly someone leaked the documents|1 330 x 60 198 million infectedonly 15 million deaths suggest a CFR of around 07how is this worst case|0 Stopped into a few stores after work hoping for some hand sanitizer OOS everywhere Grocery store was much busier than I have seen on Saturdays TP isle had empty sections of sale brands but still some stock on regular price Costco lot looked like a weekend I did not venture into the store though|1 I would hope they can order significant quantities of alcohol for room service I would have to drink myself to a stupor or end up trying to claw my way out by hand Im getting kind of freaked out just imagining it Ugh|1 For real I thought this was stupid when they first decided to do this I dont know who made that call but it was quite moronic|0 Reading the rest of the thread I live in Florida too Florida maybe like Italy Last month everyone in my Publix was coughing when I shopped That was when I was trying to get over what I had|1 I had exact same thought today the lucky ones are those who get it early and theres actual room at the hospitals|1 Yea Compared to Vietnam it was And if war crimes wasnt a thing A nuke would solve it So yea Cake walk Glad you agree Oh wait|1 Here is from the New York Times httpswwwnytimescom20200307worldasiachinacoronaviruscosthtmlsmtypcursmidtwnytimesAnd from CNNhttpswwwcnncom20200210asiachinasecuritypolicewuhanvirusintlhnkindexhtmlThere are more online When major Western media organizations keep repeating the same phrases like authoritarian draconian etc it represents the typical western attitude towards Chinas quarantine|1 most people here still think its just a flube grateful that people are panicking because the alternative is this bullshit|0 Im close with a lot of doctors I have two in my immediate family UCLA Stanford Columbia educated respectively Young and old doctors 3565 years oldNot one of them has shown any signs of panic over this And nothing has really surprised them either I think reddit is showing us why the CDC and WHO are so conservative regarding words like pandemicthe panic would hurt us more than the virus ever could|0 I mentioned this in my building this morning and everyone looked at me like I was an idiot Its crazy to me that so many people still think this is nothing|0 Read all my follow up comments I agree|1 My fiancs brotherinlaw is a doctor and did this Were all pissed at him for not cancelling Now he isnt going to be allowed to work for 2 weeks while they test him when he gets back home So damn stupid|0 Gonna happen in any country with outbreak European preppers have last few weeks maybe days And honestly the more people prepare now the less bad will the panic assault on supermarkets be|0 Current US cases as of 130pm PT on 030220 today format is cases deaths recovered Diamond Princess 45 0 0 WA 1861 CA 2002 IL 402 OR 300 RI 200 FL 200 AZ 101 MA 101 NH 100 NY 100 TX 100 WI 100|1 Yep rice with canned soups over the top Easy way to iron chef the rice and feed 46 people off of 2 cans of soup|1 Fuck me|0 Ahh So like all those countries that had Democratic in their name and were anything but|1 Nope it doesnt It means you have to read many sources from both sides and apply critical thinking to come up with your own opinion Mostly I just avoid all the political bull because most of it just is a waste of energy on our part Again lets do what the thread rules dictate which is focus on policy rather than politicians|0 Hi we hear your critique and have noticed the increased occurrence of question posts in this sub as well Our plan is to have a sticky to refer the loweffort questions to prob in the next 24 h and only allow well thoughtout and sourced questions as selfposts|1 Hm thats interesting because Japan just brought in a plane of 200 people directly back from Wuhan the epicenter of the virus and let them off freely into the dense metropolis of Tokyo without a quarantine Oh and 3 people on that flight tested positive for coronavirus a couple of days later|1 Update still have fever but I dont feel it as high as yesterday diarrhea is gone still have chills developing tightness on chest No cough Talked to the doctor evisit shes so much easier to talk to than the one I talked to yesterday She doubts that my symptoms are COVID 19 but I need to call immediately if my fever rise again My thermometer should arrive some time today but then I just read so much 1 star review about it have another one arriving in 35 business daysEdit my thermometer finally arrive my temp was 9816|0 It says new products surely they already have it in stock in their warehouse|1 Theres no evidence that there are that much difference between the strands The mutation is tiny Only reason people dont think this mutation to be trivial is that their shifting distribution indicates the presence of selection pressure|0 I think the issue will be in under developed countries and those without an adequate healthcare infrastructure Even those countries with Hospitals and trained staff they are going to be overwhelmed and ave difficulty coping with workload and supply issues|0 Big island HI People havent really done anything yet Besides the obvious TP crisis people are just going about their days Surfinghanging out ect It bothers me We just got our fourth confirmed case in a vacation state I cant say Im happy to see where Hawaii will be in two weeks|0 Central Georgia here and stressing way too much while no one else cares Heres to hoping none of us and our families are significantly affected|1 Damn I never thought of that|0 So what So given that this disease takes more than a month to kill and the spread pattern we saw this means jack shit in terns of actual data to be hadThere is nothing that suggest it is too early to be sure that young people wont die They wontExcept you know a quarter of the discharged in china getting the virus again|0 Australia has cases Its warm there New Zealand Warm Thailand Warm|1 Its really all about the economy Look how strongly the government polices relatively minor issues while at the same time saying they couldnt police people during a deadly panic Say something offensive on twitter and the police will be round in a few hours to take you down the station but they throw their hands in the air when it comes to saving lives|0 Not the travel ban he wanted but the travel ban we needed lmao|1 I worked at a McDonalds seventeen years ago and my manager would not allow gloves I handled the patties and cooked them with my bare hands and was warned because I would spend too much time washing my handsI know this may not be the case with all of them but this was my personal experience and also they continue to water down the drinks even now to the point where it all tastes literally like water with a gross bit of syrup despite complaining to McDonalds corporate|0 Since Ive read in other thread here advice from a doctor to doctor that they should connect people to those machines before they are needed and to not waste time they actually might be the mild cases they are afraid that will turn into serious ones that would make sense why there arent more doctors there httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfinx2mswedenthereisnoppeequipmentlefttheresnofkis5dz|1 I dont think theyve done enough autopsies I mean the docs in China have been busy right But people with asthma would likely be at risk because they already have an inflammatory problem|0 Wait did they really lol|1 It is not even in our local news nor their website httpswwwhaikanglifecomindexphpenmediacenternewsevents224hklifebattlestodevelopdiagnostictestsforcovid19htmlI hope they do but beware of fake news|0 I win Im already taking 400mg of hydroxychloroquine every day for Lupus Ok so maybe I dont win but at least Ive got something going for me|1 Im not a flu boy If you did your prep right youre going to pass through this fairly easy Please stop insulting Every prep guide tells you to keep a clear mind and dont panic|1 No they are not Overall statistics are pretty imprecise not only about Italy|1 I think he meant age wise Not sure though|1 Could you link to resources on that claim Not attacking I just dont know of any unbiased sciencebased sources reporting on reinfection yet|1 the Senate wont be able to take it up until at least Monday because Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has sent senators home for the weekendGosh if there was only some sort of technology that would allow a vote to be done remotely on a moments notice|1 Of course Wait did you mean from the virus or just like normal|1 He sounds like the same chiropractors who discourage vaccines and deodorant then offer healthy alternatives like essential oils|1 Thank you all guys I reply to you as a representative of all the supportive guys over there The situation is getting very weird to live but every country is at risk exactly as much as northern Italy or more So wherever youre from whatever your government decides to do be very careful Behave like the virus is already circulating in your community because it could be and you could acknowledge that only when its too late|1 Agreed Im not panicking or freaking out but Ill admit Im scared of thisSorry btw should have read your post closer|0 5 is terrible|0 Yes For me it was yesterday Last night I had the realization that this is not just another doomer fetish scenarioThe viruss contagiousness is now beyond dispute and more importantly beyond control Paired with the often very long incubation period along with conjecture that asymptotic carriers may also be spreadersLets just say Im very concerned My wife and kids are all coughing They think Im a nutcase and I might be But that doesnt make me wrong to be concerned|1 Last Ive heard anyone who is not sick should specifically not be wearing masks unless they are in direct contact with someone who is confirmed positiveIs this not the case anymore|1 Im sure they can wander the ship|1 I live in Oregon and ill update as soon as I learn more|0 Shouldnt they consider covering all testing with government money I mean after all its a national emergency I mean they used government money to bail out the banks and fund the wars abroad Why cant they now save the citizens lives with it|0 What a hero|1 we had a guard who wore a mask served quarantine papers got a signature and leftFrom all the cases this seems the most worrying if you consider that he didnt have sustained exposure assuming he was properly protected I have not seen any explicit declaration by Certis of the type of PPE that the security guard had on though the contact tracing is all theatreHowever you also said this These are all hypothetical infection causes but cannot be proven Some will be more likely to be true eg spouse of an infectedIn other words the security guard could have also caught it outside of serving the quarantine orders Meaning there are local unknown infected and it isnt something new to usEven with local unknown infected with measures taken such as wearing masks and avoiding crowd quick quarantine isolation and treatment there is a chance that the spread rate is suppressed to a good small value|1 And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death He had come like a thief in the night And one by one dropped the revellers in the bloodbedewed halls of their revel and died each in the despairing posture of his fall And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay And the flames of the tripods expired And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all|0 We cant just keep cutting check and after check while they socialize the losses and keep the profits|1 Australia has loooots of Italians due to the White Australia policy in the wake of WW2 Theres a town called Griffith for example in rural NSW that iswas walltowall ItaliansMy parents lived there in the early 70s and my dad loved them so much he still thinks hes Italianhes not|1 Here in lies the problem with a capitalistic system|0 Okay I got you but still I guess Im spoiled because my university gives licenses out pretty freely if youre associated Im glad you are covered I was looking into if it would be possible for me to give you access to a license but it would require an incredible amount of trust and a lot of verification|1 Nothing for UK great app though |0 Dude if you think there is only 12 cases of the coronavirus in the US I think you need to start getting your news from more reliable sources There is likely thousands of cases right now the thing is if you are healthy it may just feel like the flu or bronchitis which most people dont go to the ER for|1 I hate it when people tout around the it has a low mortality rate argument Currently thats what were assuming with the data we have but also its still a very infectious diseases that not exactly pleasant to have You might not die but from what video Ive seen youre basically in bed gasping for air in many cases or even in mild ones it probably a really really bad cold You dont want to get this shit even if you do recoverI say just stock up to cut down on the need to go out to supermarkets Period even now No reason to be going weekly for a few things Get shit put it back and go out every month if not longer Cut down on the time youre at these places|0 Damn Great move Should have happened sooner but well take it|1 Look at the champions League games Fans from Madrid are coming here this week next week more Madrid fans Fingers crossed Madrid doesnt have huge clusters|1 Play some Metallica while you come through and this would be the best thing ever|1 10 points have been deducted from your social credit score|1 Rule 10 No Low Effort PostsComments|0 both can be true|1 you know that theyre a cult right and spend untold amounts on propaganda not saying china is truthful about treatment of prisoners or ethnic religious minorities but just because one party is lying doesnt mean the other is truthful|1 Stop Or fudge less|0 Yepp I was all set up with a midwife but my baby was breech I was going to get a manual version where the Dr turns the baby over manually but my water broke the morning of the appointment Emergency Csection ensued My heart goes out to all pregnant women in this time because hospitals arent where Id want to be|0 Whats the military going to do Stand around looking impressive and get sneezed at|1 Next on the bucket list itll be rather large bout the size of RI Honey whats that up there Ohh SHIT I know Ill see you see you on the other side I know Ill see you|0 That it does but I bet you wont see this picture on the front page of any MSM paper or TV spot and its not like this is isolated the first pictures out of Wuhan showed scenes like this and worse weeks agoIll never forget the picture of that woman being thrown into a little box in the street like a dog going to the pound Multiply this by 100 all horrible but I dont think sugar coating it is going to help anybody and Im afraid 99 of the people are in for a very rude awakening|0 you can always call them and try to negotiate andor ask for a payment plan tell them you can only pay XX per month they would rather get money slowly over time than nothingI have done this and it was interest free and they didnt send the debt to collections or anything|1 Only certain jobs can do this unfortunately|0 For now global markets remain in Pavlovian mode There will always be more Chinese stimulus Uncle Xi will always look after everybodyWell yeah until the foreign investment treasury dries up Still long to go but getting thereOn the other hand fuck these economy articles Oh no my cheap plastic crap will become 5 more expensive some oil Sheikh wont be able to buy that 12th Ferrari for his sonMaybe the planet can get a fivesecond breather with these workshops being closed|0 Also people wear them all wrong Nasal passages above the mask to breath better loose fitting to breath better etc They still follow the one time use policy tho |1 Fathomexe has stopped working|0 Today I saw a mail man in my city its by the Bay Area he had a face mask on wtf thats not cool|0 I think I mentioned this in an earlier commit but you all are crazy A LOT will end up with the COV19 in some shape or form Its mortality rate is pretty much insignificantI had sand in my vagina at least one point in my life but I grew a penis and now I do not give a crap about the poop stain in my pantsI will go eat a burger or steak if the restaurants will have me and then I will go about my life You all should too|1 Nah business is down right now drop fees have been lower than they were before I had one that was 75 dollars for like 9 hours away Still less than a bus ticket here and safer too|1 Just a question Why do you require a twitterlinkedin profile to help out with the project I gave those up when I retired|1 Very nice very accurate portrayal|1 Im not too worried to be honest Whats funny is I told my BF to avoid the road next to that hospital Changle road and take the parallel road Anfu road instead before we left for vacation a week ago I guess I had a point|1 My friends you can help protect yourself against coronavirus with chlorine dioxidehttpsmyoutubecomwatchvIb5FpWHzAZs|1 Came here to say this its pretty spot on|1 I hope youre right and Im wrong|0 I think it was the fear of criticism that caused the suppression of information at a local level which delayed the national level response|0 Honest probably 20000 with the 5 million people who escaped wuhan before quarantine|1 The US has about 60000 ventilators If 20 of the severe cases need it good luck Most people will just drown with fluid in their lungs at home|0 ive stashed up a month of food could stretch it to two in case of necessity got my mask gel gloves glasses told no one If i die ill die last|0 Chinese do not eat living monkeysThis was said in jest But even if they did bats are only a poor food choice because of the geneticviral issues not because eww bats gross Bats are eaten in some places as a traditional food the practise of which started long before our understanding of geneticsNothing you said here justifies anything in the slightest Its just as bad to continue something as tradition even though its totally unnecessary dangerous and destructive|0 People are selfish asshole Very limited way of thinking|0 Yeah so that people not just mesmerized by the details but the abilities That kills Damn so dark|0 I agree totally also like someone else mentioned its the subway and a lot of stupid shit happens Ive seen a few crazy things on the subway Hence why I refuse to take it when I dont have to|0 Theres no incentive to do so There are disincentives for doing so|1 Hope for the best Prepare for the worst We cannot count on government to take care of us If they have that power they can decide who lives or dies|1 Those are the same parents that habitually drop off their sick children at school As parent I fucking despise those people|0 God science is WILD I really hope we keep hearing good things about this as well as the anti viral trials The only thing I worry about are side effectsfuture implications for the donor and person receiving them|1 Its coming Well be under martial law and curfews soon just you wait|1 Its just my feeling and nothing else but I suspect the CDC has known this for awhile and has decided that keeping the true spread unknown will keep panic down until it has passed through a large part of the population Ive read that with H1N1 there was something like 100 cases per 1 tested|1 There is a story that during the Vietnam war they at one point dropped the IQtest for army personel thinking it didnt matter and We need lots of people now It was a disaster Theres a story about a guy told to stand guard and only let in people that said the correct password but he just proceeded to shoot at everybody getting near the place he was guarding Really dumb people that are armed are dangerousBut yeah think about the people they reject because they are too dumb |0 US sanctions on Iran exempt medicine medical devices humanitarian help etchttpsyoutubenmIqMdrb4x8t13|1 Japan are our allies they arent being left there to enemy hands Getting people off the ship and into proper quarantine would have been smart but this process most likely infected and could kill people as proper precautions werent taken|0 Yeah the huge spike in cases that is exactly what the NHS absolutely cannot deal withThis is literally trying to steepen the spike of cases rather than flattening the curveIf we hadnt taken preventative measures in 1918 all that would have happened is that the people that died in the second wave to achieve herd immunity would die immediately in the first waveUnless we are willing to sacrifice what would easily amount to thousands of people we have to minimise the number of infected which allows for less strain of medical resources and work towards getting to Summer and closer to a cure|0 The WHO released a report after gathering info on Chinese patients and not a single one reported a runny nose A stuffy nose is an uncommon symptom but a runny nose is not indicative of COVID19 Ill see if I can find the source that was posted here a few days agoEdit Found the source httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbt49ethewhosent25internationalexpertstochinautmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfSee the fifth bullet point|0 Where All districts near me also in the Valley have all closed Thats ridiculous Go to the news|0 My husband never understands why I act the way these above citizens do I grew up in Seoul but had to leave in childhood My philosophy acquired from there specifically You Just HelpYou open the doorYou help carryYou offer to go the extra mileBecause we are all human and we have to do that for one another Blessed are those who know what it means to be human and give as though they were the receiving partyas well as the pals who upvoted because they likely arranged comments to sort by new More should know how to make success happen Edit I am indeed aware that times change and blanket statements can be misleading I was just musing about my old home Thank you for entertaining my thoughts for a moment|1 Ill never understand why he agreed to be a part of that story Did he think people would get mad at Amazon and demand that he be allowed to gouge vulnerable seniors like the founding fathers intended Was his head that far up his ass|0 The only reason that doesnt bother me so much is that at least theyll have extra water that theyll hopefully store for some future emergency that could affect water supplies Same with the other prepping which personally I dont expect anyone to have to need at least in the USMy entire family was boy scouts or girls scouts so things like this come along and I just do an inventory and see that yup I got enough foodwatermedicineeverything to ride this out should the worst case scenario occur spend a moment mentally going over my evacuation plan for longterm survival then I go back to thinking about other things Itd be nice if these sorts of events got people people to plan better for all emergencies and be ready for them when something doesnt appear imminent It would certainly cut down on problems and panic when those emergencies inevitably appearMore important than stuff though is skills and knowledge Years ago being a boy scout naturally led me to get a lot more training in my adult life than most people do I even became an EMT for a while to learn more advanced medicine than your typical first aid class I practice primitive camping and firestarting skills regularly especially cold weather skills since I live up north I wonder how many people especially in urban environments would even know how to filter and purify water if the tap water suddenly stopped working|1 Because it is not in a bubble but in contextIm from Italy look at our numbers the entire 20182019 flu season October to April caused 300 deaths Coronavirus caused almost 1000 deaths in 2 weeks The other big difference Millions of people contracted the flu only thousand of people have contracted the coronavirus so far|0 19 cases and one death would be a mortality rate over 5 more than twice 2 like China keeps claiming|0 Very good capture Thank you This is the same shit going on rchinaflu Those two subs have been taken over by wu mao clan Fucking idiots cant even gather the courage to ask simple questions of their officials as their fellow country men die and risk spreads all over the world Chinese hate is going to surpass muslim hate globally if they dont realize what this censorship is doing to the worlds perception|0 Let me explain because I have a few jobs that are affected by this As a hotel worker we might have to shut down the hotel for month Without pay due to this 16 hours a weekMy wife is losing her long term subbing job with school district after the Governor shut down the schools 50 hours a weekMy 5 piano students are quitting for the next month 500 a monthmy 1 day of football refereeing is being sidelined till May because of this 5 hours a week I understand the economy wont just die but my income is largely based on education and other sources rather than people panic buying toilet paper and I wont be able to ask for more hours at the hotel because the hotel doesnt have anyone booking trips right now anyways|0 My dad has a host of other pre existing life threatening conditions but he thinks that hes Chuck Norris|0 You need a revolution You could have voted for Bernie Most didnt So you only have yourselves to blame|0 Man I wish it wouldve been the same commenter that wouldve been even more hilarious|1 I hope you dont have it but there are lots of false negatives while asymptomatic Im not trying to worry you Its just the way it is though One of the reasons why it spreads like wild fire|1 So basically orange man bad|0 averages are weird thoughx200Bthe average human has 1 testicle|0 This is great Good information is critical right now You potentially saved livesinfections by informing the driver of the seriousness Uber drivers are coming into contact with a ton of people Their viralspread footprint is large We should all be doing our best to inform people and debunk myths For example my brother was convinced gargling with salt water will kills the virus because it lives in your throat for 4 days I told him that was nonsense He said he heard it on CNN I told him thats not how biology works and to send me a reliable link He sent me a link from livescience where they debunked the myth Now he knows its bs Im sure theres millions of Americans who believe this stuff Its critical that we all push back against it|1 There is nothing more they can do except quarantine you The only thing having you in a hospital does if your symptoms arent serious enough to warrant assisted breathing is risk infecting more people Sure you getting tested might give you some peace of mind in knowing one way or the other but aside from that there is very little pointAnyway hope you and your family get better soon|1 You make some excellent points It also takes more discipline to work at home|1 They saw what the US was doing and did the opposite forgetting that even a broken clock is right twice a day|0 Still no Deaths outside of china I wonder what is causing this huge disparity between chinese curve and international curve|1 Germany is without a doubt in my mind a better place to be They have most intensive care beds in Europe by a wide mirgin Sweden on the other hand has the least amount of beds|1 wow thats horrible Living in Portugal right now a lot of stuff is half quarantine Sad to hear that people are still not taking it seriouslyx200BSe quiseres saber acredito que ha duas coisas que se pode fazer ha um direito constitucional aparenemente para nao ir trabalhar quando acreditamos que e uma ameaca a nossa integridade fisica E se ele denunciar a empresa a DGS dizem que tambem funciona Tenho os formularios para os dois algures mas ve no FB o grupo Isolacao Voluntaria COVID19|0 Im just not seeing this fake sensationalised doo mongering I just dont understand whats people are seeing this I got accused of it when I said the r0 was 408 in fact its nearer 6 So It was more yet I was accused of doom mongering I said Indonesia more that likely had an outbreak Again accused of doom mongering When I said this was or sad by aerosol Again doom mongering Yet it is So basically my experience is those on the case get accused of doom mongering Im really not sure what people mean by this As far as I can tell truth doommongering|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 After China bomb out all Taiwan air strips in 2 hours all the Taiwanese F16 will have to crash land or fly to Okinawa anyway The 1 million dollar question is can Tsai escape in time in her Black Hawk or she will be nailed by an airair missile|0 Time slows down but theres not much you can do to prevent the crash except to brace yourself as best you can Sounds about right|1 Something I didnt believe was real until I read it on a friends parents Facebook post there are actually people who believe that this whole pandemic is a liberal conspiracy Its very hard to control a pandemic and convince people to stay home when youre up against thatThese same people also told their other kid to continue on with her vacation because of COVID19 being the aforementioned conspiracy|0 Fuck Bob Chapek|0 I hope these guys werent making fun of people for their concern That would be pretty hypocritical Im sure they wouldnt have done that though|1 No Trump is going to harness this crisis to cancel the election|0 You are right it would not be super reliable data however its not much different than people reporting traffic jams power outages internet outages and other things that already existWhile of course its not ever going to be scientific its better than nothing and no one would say it was official anywhereI have already heard lots of people asking about posting on some sort of a google location tracker so Im not the only one thinking it I just didnt know if someone had actually done it yet|1 TIL the soldiers that fought against the systemic extermination of deplorables were just naive|0 Howdy Neighbor just about twenty miles from you guys on terra firma Hang in there hopefully we get this sorted out soon for you all|1 Its funny because you accused me of fear mongering here a few weeks back and you were so sure about it httpswwwredditcomrworldnewscommentseui9uicommentfg3dqppGlad you realised it wasnt uncalled for|0 Because its not that bad Sorry|1 That 20 infection rate of healthcare professionals is concerning wrt how it would impact capacity for treatment even if the rate of new severe cases starts to linearize|0 Im pointing out why those type of comments would be on Reddit thats all I gotta work with people myself I would love to be able to stay home and avoid human contact People can be tiring|1 Unfortunately were not allowed to shoot them yet|0 Yeah we also had a big hand in inventing erm America|1 By stupid you mean poor who cant afford not to work|0 I like it Hopefully the government does this We also need toilet paper to be restocked|1 Kind of like how Wuhan citizens left en masse after being notified their city was going on lockdown|1 Please re read your post You had a massage one night How brave of you Next youll be letting us know you actually stepped outside Have a virtual pint on me Lmao|1 No I fully understand that and it is still a deliberate attempt to lie to the public about how many people are infected|0 A man in HK refused to let his wife back home after she went to mainland China fyi|0 Ive read a bunch of news stories on coronavirus and this is the best article Ive read on the topic to date Well said Aaron in Iowa USA|1 I wonder if they require employers to pay for sick leaveEdit The bill would provide two weeks of paid sick and family leave for those affected by the virus Businesses would get a tax credit to help cover the expense|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I think many Trump supporters are beginning to become frustrated with his inaction In times of crisis we need a leader to set aside politics and do whats best for the nation Sadly thats not something this president has chosen to do Instead hes taking Chinas approach of burying information and ignoring important protocols to keep up appearances Trump country will quickly lose patience with his evasive and misleading statements when theyre forced to community quarantine because of his inaction He needs to be transparent Even if it means it might hurt him politically If he did exercise the political courage to be transparent it would show integrity Something hes going to need to demonstrate if he has any ambitions in challenging Bernie|0 its CNN You shouldnt expect clear reporting Just read the doctor quotes|0 WFH is the future in a world polluted with too many humans given how messy we humans are soiling our nest so badly|0 No longer has a process for declaring a pandemic Since when exactly has the very well defined process of pandemic declaration has disappeared Whats going on|0 Yes true|1 How many people do you think will get this virus by the end of this disease How many you predict will die How many predicted to recover Thanks for reading|0 Also you can multiply the effect of a ventilator in an emergency by sharing it with other peoplePut in T tubes and split the air you can split it to two people or four people they just need to have similar needs for pressure and something else You risk crosscontamination between patients but they are screwed without a ventilator at allPaper httpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoipdf101197jaem200605009httpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoipdf101197jaem200605009A Single Ventilator for Multiple SimulatedPatients to Meet Disaster SurgeGreg Neyman MD Charlene Babcock Irvin MDx200Band Dr Charlene Irvin Babcock MD did a youtube video on it COVID19 How to Use One Ventilator to Save Multiple LiveshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvuClq978oohYhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvuClq978oohY|0 Yeah Im struggling with human beings right now I dont understand the thought process behind not preparing I have only prepared 2 weeks of food but were working on getting a month of food together Yes I bought a bunch of extra stuffbut so what Nothing happens well just eat the food Nothing is going to be wasted and Im not harming anyone by getting some extra food together People in this city are literally going out of their way on Facebook and such just to make fun of those that are prepping Like are we in high school again Im not panicked Im informed and I have 2 young kids to think about also You prepare for school when you have a test you prepare for work when you have a presentation you prepare for things every daybut you refuse to prepare in case people start falling ill and dyingin case you have to quarantine yourselveseven though others that are older or compromised are at your mercy Ive gotta be missing somethingcause I just dont get it|1 German here so maybe not representative for the US but I guess people are the same everywhereThere have been singular freakouts here They make us retail workers feel unsafe even though they are still rare its a huge psychological problem that is hard to address when your workload and time just doubled Im just glad our shop is in a mall and we have the mall securityThe hospitals also need security for that reason even if nothing happens it shows the presence of order and brings ease of mind to concentrate on theirour work|1 Dumbest player of the year|0 Oh look at mr moneybags here with his 2500 pennies Jeeze way to make the rest of us feel bad|0 Bit the government is currently encouraging people to work from home where possible and isolate themselves as much as possible If you develop symptoms isolate yourself completelyI disagree that testing everyone is the highest priority though This puts additional strain on the healthcare system that will already be under a lot of load and increases the spread rate since you probably have to go see someone to get tested The result of the test doesnt change how its treated if you show symptoms isolate regardless of a test resultAny reason testing shouldnt only be focused on cases where there is risk to life Eg difficulty breathing the elderly and people with preexisting health conditions|0 The only things are I havent found a video of those statements and I seriously hope La Repubblica are misreporting them not because I hate La Repubblica but beacuse these would be terrible things to do on further thought ovvero is very ambiguous it typically means only clinical cases that is the ones but in very outdated Italian it could also mean only clinical case OR the ones which would mean a very different thing namely only cases with symptoms but not only the ones in ICUIf its the latter this person makes me shake my head for the way he handles Italian and communication but at least it would be less bad|0 I am skeptical Higher virulence also means people are closer together Since people congregate in the cold wouldnt this have a greater impact on the spread not the actual air temperatureEdit corona cases on the rise in hot humid countries like Vietnam and Indonesia|0 Perhaps were missing the lesson Did everyone who actually showed up fail|0 That would be my assumption Antivirals are also thought to be the cause of all the hysteria over positive retestsAggressively treating a viral infection with antivirals is absolutely not a good idea You need the immune system to be able to mount a reponse to fully clear the infection|1 Jesus Im an immunocompromised adult who develops pneumonia almost every time I get any sort of headcold I JUST got over this years first round of pneumonia which took two rounds of antibx to have an effect I am trying not to panic but this is scary|0 Whether its true or not this is FUCKING NBC a woman says Be a fucking journalist and find out Then report it|1 The problem as I see it is If the approach of 60 of country is to contain the virus but the approach of 40 USA UK NL is to basically let it loose and run its course over the coming months When the 60 are up and running and on top of it again which by the looks of things they could well be by summer the 40 are going to be banned from interacting with them as they will just respread the disease|0 265 x 1514 is roughly 80000 reported cases Thats a lot of reported cases Now think of the amount of people who didnt bother to go to the hospital|1 I live in the state of Georgia in the US and my daughters school does remote classes several times a quarter I was hesitant at first but it turned out to be very effective and much more was accomplished in less time|1 Naja im Artikel steht es ja eigentlich whrend es in sterreich von Anfang an heit dass jedes Unternehmen es beantragen kann ohne irgendwelche Verpflichtungen Ja Vertrag bleibt aufrecht aber wenn das Unternehmen nach 1 oder mehr Monaten eben Mitarbeiter kndigen muss dann wird es auch die treffen und das darf auch gemacht werden nicht wie in Dnemark laut dem Artikel|0 that sub is run by sandy gook deniers btw|0 Im sorry I maybe misread your initial comment Are you talking about the USCanada sharing traveler information such as someone travels from a high risk area to USCanada and then crosses orAre you suggesting the USCanadian border implement screening at all border checkpoints for all crossings|0 Yeah mass infection is going to be a major disruptor to the economy Far worse than proactive school closings|1 But couldnt they have still been likelook were 99 sure youre fine but these tests arent perfect so still maybe take it easy for a couple of days to be absolutely sure stick to drivethroughs avoid orgies stuff like that|1 I have som 300mg Clorox vape carts if anyone needs No cuts HMU|0 Okay|1 Thank you|1 or just call in sick everyone i know in IT is home|0 You have never been homeless or worked with homeless Homeless have a much harder time getting to convienence stores like Walmart They need to keep stores open every 1 or 2 square miles The distance between Walmarts could be 20 miles or more They dont have vehicles and many are disabled or impaired Way more people die because of exposure to elements than you think Currently we have over 1200 deaths per year in the US from cold exposure That doesnt even include rain and other kids of weather exposure Weve had 100 coronavirus deaths in 3 months So currently cold is a bigger issue Its worse in colder countries obviously But it will be much worse if these stores are closed down|0 I care because I care deeply about highlighting the real art that happens in pop culture in general For comparison there is a tendency for comic books to be termed graphic novels and genre fiction lose their designations and become straight fiction if theyre considered good by critics and the general populace But they were still comic books all along Also minus the fancams IDGI theres tons of bts fancams|1 Thats a nice jacket|1 the irony of this fucking meeting wowwww|0 Did warm weather stop MERS|0 Yeah but the stock market|1 That is so fucking heartbreaking|0 Hide it trump will try to buy the exclusive rights|0 Think how great his nose will look in jail though|1 Fact is that no private or public company spends money if there is no need Fact is that to produce 07M tests A DAY costs a metric ton of money So either there is the need right now or the decision makers thinks there will be a need soonThis is no fear this is how economy works Even communist chinaAnd fact is that you dont know how the real world works So go to r101howtheworldworks|0 Mein GottGet that shit up on imgur|0 Redditors want the government controlling every single aspect of their lives Theyre perpetual children who need a daddy figure|1 This guy is such a fucking moron Its infuriating|0 It sounded like he was already aware of the coronavirus so he didnt go to the hospital because he was on the brink of death but because he suspected he had the coronavirus|0 This is pure CCP propaganda and soft power by taking advantage of the situation They publicise their intentions to help so that countries would stop blaming them for the global outbreak of the virus Their foreign ministry official just used an unconfirmed source to say that the US brought the virus to China|0 Just another keyboard warriors lmao|1 Thats a lot of deaths in a seemingly short period of time Hasnt it only been like 2 weeks since they reported have any cases at all|1 Fuck this guy for real|0 Exactly you can try to find a loop hole but theres none good bye and remember The Lord Jesus Christ when you take your last breath|0 This is so freaking sad|0 Yes I imagine Chinese restaurants are taking quite the hit I know many people that are choosing to avoid them for a couple of months as a precaution I feel very badly for the businesses but also understand the concern|0 In 10 days time Im meant to be going on holiday for 1 month to Vietnam Should I be reconsidering this trip|1 This is me too Its like Im watching or in one of those Indonesian tsunami videos Our scene opens to a pretty beach full of cavorting tourists Hold this shot for a while Focus then shifts to a small unusual line of white on the horizon No one notices at first The line gets a little bigger and starts to take on a vertical dimension If you look closely you can see that its really quite large One or two people see it and they state intently puzzled A few minutes pass The line has taken on a roiling texture Several people are looking but still the majority are oblivious Me I see what it is and understand what is coming The horror unrolls in slow motion as the wave approaches I try to tell people to run but they just look at me funny And Ive felt this way for over a weekNot sleeping very well Emotional but not panicked Closer to coming unraveled than Ive been since my mothers death many years ago|1 Is it negligent if they are doing it on purpose to keep the number of cases low|0 I would hope that they would be able to build as quickly|1 Most of which are no longer working in India the number of doctors per member of the public is rather low for dealing with an outbreak|0 There is literally not a number that would be more alarming than that statement|0 You might be better off posting such things in the quarantined coronavirus sub just so more eye balls see it considering that it is significantly larger than both of those subs you mentioned|1 Suicide rate will go up with social isolation and businesses failing people will be exercising lessIm not arguing against staying home quite the opposite just that this will be a disaster no matter how you slice it Social distancing means the least bad scenario but its already too late in most places for a good outcome The degree to which this is going to be bad will shock people if even the moderate estimates are correct|0 yes clear and informative Another countrys government should give you a job|1 They stopped listing the number tested here in Singapore quite some time ago Just listing confirmed hospitalised and discharged But I guess the difference is we know theyre testing and contact tracing effectively in Singapore|1 This is happening worldwide In the city I live in Barber del Valls near Barcelona 400 people may lose their jobs because one of the needed parts come from China I guess this is a consequence few people expected This is the link but its in Spanish sorry httpswwwlavanguardiacomvida20200213473522903113magnetimarellipresentaeretemporalporfaltadepiezasporelcoronavirushtmlhttpswwwlavanguardiacomvida20200213473522903113magnetimarellipresentaeretemporalporfaltadepiezasporelcoronavirushtml|0 We either crash the virus and the economy or up to 2 of mankindMy moneys on the latter though Italy gives me hope These quarantines need to be seriously enforced now worldwide and for up to 3 coordinated months or else theres no point in the long run|0 gets winnie the flu|0 Who is going to go buy the food when it runs out Do you plan on buying a months worth next time and how will you bring it home with no car or public transportation allowed Are you afraid of having to go buy food when you run out|0 So whats the real number then cuntos|1 My husband no longer has to go inside peoples houses for his food delivery job Customers have been instructed to preorder so the food can be left outside their door|0 Ive been mentioning this as well when it comes up in conversations In two weeks the numbers are going to be a LOT higher all over the US Schools are supposedly going to open thenNo way the school year is done for the schools that have shut down|1 Honestly people arent listening because theyre largely selfish and oblivious I dont know that informing them more about shortages would change much The news has been filled with experts discussing the numbers reasons for the numbers etc And any counting site shows the fast increasing numbers of infected If people arent listening now its because they are the type not to care without personal reason to I do understand what you mean about the sites needing to be more transparent|0 I used to work in a well funded public school as a janitor I was told to throw out all the text books because we just got the shipment of the newer editions The books I threw away were no more than 5 years old and were in very good condition The next town over didnt even have enough books for their students and their books were much older than ours|1 Serious question Is the risk from that outdoor event any higher than lakers games or many other events Seems so random whats cancelled and whats not|0 Sorry wasnt trying to tell you how to allocate your sympathies just my roundabout way of saying this isnt just an Iran problem we will all get to experience this first handI pray we can overcome|0 Caution like a proprocaution|1 Seriously I mean who cheats on Matt fucking Damon|0 Thank you|1 I know exactly how those first few months are Hang in there keep him away from people and small kids sounds harsh but they are little virus carriers Thats really great news that he got a transplant its life changing to be honest Your dad will feel like a different person 6mths from now|1 My advice is just to wash your hands and keep your hands away from your face Try to carry on a small container of lysol or a small pack of Clorox wipes to disinfect your luggage or anything else that may come in contact with virus or bacteria Also keep a small bottle of hand sanitizer with you on your carry on If you wanna be really boujee wear an N95 face mask If you can find one that is Have a safe and wonderful trip|1 And this is why I am avoiding the US healthcare system at all fucking costs Even when youre asymptomatic youre spreading it to others|0 He had it on wrong so no|0 Lol|1 Haha You are not very far off Cheers mate Peace|1 Who the hell is this look at the profile and the comment section in this profile All shes done since the inception of her 11day old profile is go to post after about Corona virus and comment negatively or try to disprove with zero backup over And over And over and over and over Why Whats your endgame Who are you|0 This is why once upon a time the NHS in the UK would also treat foreign patients for free We didnt want people wandering around with say TB infecting other people Cheaper by far to treat the person who hasnt paid for it than the multitude of people who they might infectSource I seem to remember someone telling me this decades ago so it must be true|1 I had the flu without pneumonia once and I thought I was going to die I was living alone and I didnt wake up one day I eventually woke up and I had this horrible sense of dread I got into gear got myself better And I tried to be real but my whole self was even afraid to fall asleep for weeks after|0 I work at a toy store here in Canada We are discussing shortening hours and I think this will just make things worse With shorter hours this will condense the customers making more people at each location at any given time We need to close all non essentials NOW I dont wanna get sick because Karen needed to get 300 worth of toys for her kid to entertain themselves or to help a customer get gifts for a birthday party that for SOME REASON isnt cancelled|1 We need more standup comedy |1 As of yesterday 2620 test have been performed on 1007 people by CDCMore test have been done at other references labs I know its common knowledge that the US is not testing but that is not true|0 Well the growing dread isnt new|0 He has seen a lot worse than this|0 Can we just ban all travel to and FROM China|0 I agree Close the fucking schools They are killing people by leaving them open|0 south koreans are very high IQ and most importantly high trust society they follow directions from gov and their gov has access to much much more data because less privacy laws they literally accessed every covid positive persons phone data and traced their locations and contacted everyone who was even in the vicinity that could possibly have contracted itx200Bsay what you want about asian societies and their tendency to conform but it pays of in spades in a situation like this|1 You obviously arent from the midwestThe answer is hold my BEER Hopefully not a Corona|1 jesus christ calm down dude|1 What about the GPS ankle monitors they give to people on house arrest Thats an idea|0 OP is talking about thishttpswwwnbcnewscomhealthhealthnewstrumpcutsnationalsecuritystaffmayhurtcoronavirusresponsesayn1143656In 2018 Trump fired Tom Bossert whose job as homeland security adviser on the NSC included coordinating the response to global pandemics Bossert was not replaced Last year Rear Adm Tim Ziemer the NSCs senior director for global health security and biodefense left the council and was not replaced Dr Luciana Borio the NSCs director for medical and biodefense preparedness left in May 2018 and was also not replacedIn an October oped in The Washington Post national security adviser Robert OBrien described the Obama National Security Council as having ballooned to well over 200 staffers and he said he intended to reduce the NSC staffSaid a former senior US official For the first time since 911 you dont have someone directly and immediately reporting to the president responsible 247 for the major transnational threats we face terror cyber pandemics|1 Please report it then|1 Would have nothing to do with new cases Would only lower case fatality rates|0 We dont know there was an unintended selection bias Eg location of data collection sickest people already dead or too sick to even test or treat etc we dont know if the population in this study accurately reflects the general population|0 A hero|1 This is why the UK has fucked it with their strategy In Italy EVEN WITH taking some containment measures which a lot of people ignored they still collapsed the system Because of the way this virus works a lot of people have it and are infectious before having symptoms then when they get symptoms they dont get to the point of needing critical care for another 12 weeks This means that if you dont try to delay the spread ASAP by implementing social distancing measures so that AT LEAST a lot of people are avoiding gatherings taking precautions etc then you end up with a massive time bomb of infected people who are going to need ICU within the month Then those people are walking around before they get symptoms infecting others those infect others and out of all these infected 5 are going to end up needing ICU within 34 weeks of being infectedThe way our government has handled it has ensured that a huge number of people have not been taking this seriously the past 2 months while this virus has been growing exponentially within the public Every day that they do not enforce some sort of social distancing measures or at the very least giving people the resources to stay off from workwork from home without penalty keep kids home from school without penalty etc is another day in which potentially thousands more are being infected leading to more and more people who will need ICU in the coming weeksI find it so hard to grasp how people do not seem to understand this yes the government talking about flattening the peak and slowing the spread and easing the burden on the NHS all made sense yesterday But they are not taking the measures necessary to do that And they have waited far too long letting this infection just run through the population The second they realised there was community spread ie someone tested positive who hadnt been anywhere abroad or had contact with a known infected person they should have taken some measures to start slowing the spread of the infection to prevent NHS collapse in a couple of months time|0 Good for you I did the same thing a week ago In times like these you have to be smarter than the people around you|1 Theyre testing more people than almost every day previous Literally the second biggest number of people testedOr are you one of those people who thinks that when they publish the number of people tested its just a lieIm struggling to understand how anyone can look at the statementAs of 9am on 16 March 2020 44105 people have been tested in the UK of which 42562 were confirmed negative and 1543 were confirmed as positive And come away thinking that theyre not testingYou might be right that theyre testing the wrong people But what do you base that on|0 What the fuck|0 Great post and very interesting Thanks|1 But apparently Trump is the only one doing a bad job|0 But the website i use for sources says the amount of recovered is almost double the increase than the amount of infected daily|0 I do not know what they are using in China and its a potentially dangerous drug as it a has poor therapeutic index and b clears very slowly half life is in the 12 months range if I recall correctly and has genetic variation such that some people are a lot more sensitive or a lot less able to clear so build up is dangerous Not something youd want OTC patients popping if they feel like they might have the beer virus and Kombucha and Elderberry isnt enoughI would assume they just used the acute Malaria dose though FOR THOSE READING NOT IN MEDICAL FIELD CHLOROQUINE CAN BE ODed ON AND CAUSE BLINDNESS AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE GENETICS THAT MAKE THAT VERY LIKELY Not a DIY med|0 Yeah Its just like the flu Thats why they are wearing hazmat suits locking down citiesprovinces building quarantine hospitals in a week and using mass disinfectant machines Just the like the flu|1 Does this mean my copy of Doom Eternal wont be shipped to me|0 Hate the guy but hes doing the right thing rn|0 Im a phone pooper too Bathroom seems not so bad for it given availability of sinks and soap|1 Im not saying you definitely didnt have it but these symptoms arent unique to covid 19 Ive had as well as people around me many flus with the same symptoms that disappear for 23 days then reappear Its also consistent with having a cold or flu and then getting a bacteria lung infection while your immune system is weakened|0 Absolutely ridiculous Is she being treated at a hospital I hope she starts feeling better|1 Isnt there miscellaneous dirt|1 Which it makes it even more funny Everybody then shat on China for excessive containment measures yet the US is gonna be hit ever harder for NOT doing themFreedom vs security amiright|1 I prefer F 100 is really hot 0 is really cold So much easier to understand|1 Well well hate to bring you the bad news new case|0 I have already been in softquarantine no leaving house except for groceries for a month and in hardquarantine no leaving house period for a weekIts just my life|0 One rare instance where the host is worse than the virus|0 Probably He spent an evening sitting next to someone who tested positive just a few days later Hes never gonna admit to it though|1 If thats the case they need to say so People think we have low numbers so theyre still living life going to bars beaches They think its a media made crisis If people know our numbers could be higher but we dont know for sure because of limited testing then they might be more careful and they could take social distancing more seriously|0 Fuck the investors|0 strange that the majority of UK scientists dont are you referring to the 200 odd scientists that wrote that letter They where mostly Phd students in unrelated fields few or none where proper experts in the field and none have access to the same data and models that the CMO and their team do|0 Trump fired the group responsible for doing these things two years ago|0 Eh I get why people dont like it but it shouldnt surprise people that celebrities that are passionate about certain issues will use the platform they have to shed light on them|1 I hope Canada is going to end up reacting at the very least Air Canada did|1 Whos upvoting this nonsense|0 I dont trust Johnson I trust this plan because it wasnt created by the pigfucker|0 Well ask that guys dad httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfeb5pminfectedmandisobeysselfquarantineorderandfjngvkjutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 they are effected by the stock market and the worse this become and the longer the virus is around the longer the effects will be on the stock market|0 Great Send the recipe around the country so we can get making them per state ourselves|1 The governor of Massachusetts ordered bars and restaurants closed private and public schools closed starting Tuesday until April 7 th take out or delivery meals can be an option 25 people or less in retail stores and public gatherings Supermarkets and pharmacies are the exception I hope this is a wake up call to people to treat this seriously|1 I just subbed Im trying to remain positive in this time However considering the infrastructure in my country preparedness of the people overall I aint hoping much because thatd be akin to being delusional|1 Yeah America is about to get dog pounded but well get through it Americans have gotten through worse stuff civil war Spanish fludust bowl great depressionww2 and the Cold war Its our generations turn to sackup and deal with this crisis|0 When this thing hits Washington DC all of these guys will change their stories like rats fleeting a sinking shipJust wait|1 I had H1N1 also It was a very miserable flu and I was let me think 23 I think Also my little brother had it and he was only 6 but he is immune compromised and had to be hospitalized|0 An excellent example for the world|1 Can this explain the crazy videos out of china in the early days where people were falling out in the streets|0 You can not compare those to the current situation It is like saying Bob and Jimmy scored more points that Dave Yeah but Daves game just started recently it is just the beginningGet my point We cant conclude either way We can look at the current rate with the data from when Ebola and H1N1 started That might be a scary thing or maybe not I dont know|0 There are rich people in Missouri|1 What a sad fuckin country where guaranteeing health care for your citizens is seen as an impossible pipe dream My god|1 Oh wowyoure so ignorant on homeschooling Here do some reading on your ownyou kmow like homeschoolinghttpsreasoncom20190122homeschoolingproducesbetterstudentsAnd if you still tnink shaking hands or hugging is ok then its incomprehensible how ignorant you are Youre probably republican right |1 You live in a fantasy land where the government and the media is saying the US has 20 cases but thousands of people in Chicago will assume they have it even though there are 0 confirmed cases in the entire state of Illinois People just dont operate that way Youll get people to believe if you test enough people early on to actually show the exponential growth and the rapid expansion across the entire US No testing means we are already 8 steps behind|1 Its sad people and governments dont realize the severity of what China needed to do to combat thisWhen and not if the rate of infection and deaths become higher in Europe and US youll still see people sticking their fingers in their ears going this proves China lied while doing nothing Cognitive dissonance is an addictive drug|0 lol imagine paying for a vaccinethis is the most american thing ive ever seen|1 And no country is going to allow flights from UK who wants people from a country where the main strategy is to infect everyone|0 Makes sense Please take care of yourself|1 It has that ability because on its asymptomatic infectious period To contain will require being able to detect infected quickly and easily by anyone perhaps thermal imaging But fever is technically a symptomThis isnt happening so its going to spread|1 Then keep that up I wish you all the best comrade|1 Yep the main thing is suspected cases have gone down dramatically 24k to 18k24khttpwjwhubeigovcnfbjddtyw202002t202002092021930shtml 18khttpwjwhubeigovcnfbjddtyw202002t202002102022514shtml|1 Real life contagion|0 its worse with other travelers alone you can at least manage yourself mentally you cannot do that to another person going crazy|0 One of my Japanese friends just posted a story that theyre still on a shortage of masks even the simple standard ones that dont even really help She said theyre not really taking it seriously|0 You really shouldnt be stocking up on masks and stuff anyways when other people might be needing them The hoarding of those types of goods causes the shortages when they are needed|0 Id love to see a more complicated simulation with deaths symptomatic and asymptomatic spreaders and adults vs kids The dots that die would disappear like he says at the end But I bet symptomatic people slow down both because of awareness and the effects of the illness making it less likely to interact with others and that children would never slow down regardless given that they dont tend to get extreme symptoms And compare the effects of shutting down schools making the kids dots stationary vs not|0 Great insight there doctor|1 Rofl All you guys were loving to hate on China and now that Coronavirus is in America we are going to see how superior our civilization isTrump is worse than CCP They will lie and cheat and make money off of us and people will lie for themAnd if you have to go to the hospital for 14 days Around 3000 average cost of hospital bed per day you can do the math Even with insurance that would wipe out your financial coverage for the year|1 Interesting that you knew basically forever considering that this is the first case of asymptomatic transmission described in the literature Speculating isnt the same thing as knowing|1 Havent the Czechs made a 120 000eur fine into law Makes more and more sense as you see cases like this pop up|1 True didnt think of it that wayany info whether they have reached the limit of their testing capacity|1 Fuck this no point trying to talk sense into a potato when you get the virus youll be wishing he donated to a hospital near you|0 Well see about that when they get infected and they realize they cant heal themselves with moneyOooooooonly science|0 Have you ever had pneumonia before Or been around people with it The first thing doctors tell you is to stop smokingPneumonia is the main part of the virus that kills you If you want to smoke fine But cigars arent medicine Telling people they are will put blood on your hands|0 Headaches and feeling sick stomach etc|0 I hoped I would be proven wrong and so sad I wasnt Very glad Im prepared and can even help family members who wouldnt listen My parents are high risk but wont need to go to the grocery store at all for weeks potentially|0 Im not claiming its not a difficult time for these business owners I sincerely hope everyone affected by the virus in any way is brought peace and a sense of normalcy as soon as possible Im also not saying I dont fully understand the OPs genuine post about their thoughts being with those who own and work at this particular restauranttheres no upside to take solace inBut everyone is racist if they havent ordered takeout How many orders must one make until they arent a party to this racism I understand the sentiment but jumping to blanket racism is a bit disingenuous In my opinion|0 i just hope the crash is quick and stops asap not one of those 3 flips 100 rolls and then the car and forest around it burst into flames killing a million people which is what it is looking like right now|0 Itll financially cripple the populus of most western nations and destroy their already near capacity healthcare systems Why exactly is the US getting so much flak|0 Dont worry I bought it to remove its listing|1 that long ago its probably already solved there was an article last week that reported them using antibody testing to confirm a couple as being the missing link between two clustershttpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewssingaporecovid19coronavirusdukenusantibodytests12469184 first cluster linked to Wuhan and the second cluster with no known source prior to this for over a week the couple were symptomatic during the time they spread the virus to the second cluster|0 Dont forget the Uighur people in China|1 Im not arguing against secrecy Im saying invoking the classification system is too heavy handed in an emergency when the infrastructure and appropriate personnel clearances arent in place beforehand Almost certainly the CDC has procedures for protecting PHI which would have been more appropriate I saw another article discussing the fact that as a result of this decision key people couldnt be in the meetings because they lacked proper clearance a process that can take 6 months to a year or longer If this was the route the administration wanted these things should have been put in place before disaster struck They are now hampering their own efforts|0 After you find shelter next step in a disaster is to secure additional resources Dont go through your stockpile right away if you dont have to By the time you run out there will be nothing left out there to go and get|0 I dont think itll end what theyre doing over there but I do think a few big companies will use this as an alarm and start to spread their production across the world so theyre not entirely dependent on one country|0 You can cough sneeze or spray droplets on someone while talking even when you are perfectly healthy so Im assuming that would also be a factor|1 really good tracker thanks|1 Its just a quarantine until they make sure it wont spread too far and also to make sure that the countries it has spread to can also quarantine their infected Theyre gonna monitor it because we still dont understand its full life cycle what it looks like at peak etc Id guess the quarantine would be 1 month max All we can do is wait and see how the virus plays out The economies can wait because if this virus becomes out of control and then mutates which coronaviruses do into something more deadly were all fucked|0 I wouldnt say that they are good at planning they obviously failed with plan A and also with creating a plan B Good information otherwise|1 Yeah sure thats what I said smh more like trying to make a point its going to take more than money never once said it was a good thing|1 Exactly The intent was to infect Thats biological assault The intent was to infect and kill by definition thats murder|0 I dont really want these idiots on land with me|0 Yeah that was cool huh When posts with evidence of some super contagious disease that was ravaging central China just got deleted or downvoted to oblivion Awesome Glad everyone is on the same page now that its too fucking late |1 Actually there has been no correlation between asthma and infectioncomplication There have been a couple peer reviewed papers on this published Of course try to avoid getting sick|0 I think it is a reasonable number when you have so many people swarm into hospital And btw Wuhan itself has 40k cases and causes 60 deaths|1 Its the same in Europe no Italy China SK no test|0 Thats normal in ChinaI live in a community with 910 buildings and 2 of them are empty lol|1 When applicable we want peerreviewed preprint or government statements At least an internationally recognized agency like BBC|1 N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnelread the citation the study is done for influenza among health care personnel its not for covid 19 and its not done for general public|1 the UKs government isnt doing nearly enough to stop the spreadStopping the spread could be worse Clamping down after too many people have got it could create a bottle neck which overflows a month from now when people get bored fatigued complacent or run out of money and need to go to work all simultaneously catching it and swelling need for ICUs beyond capacity Its very important that everyone isnt ill at the same time The plan is logical once it is inevitable that many millions will catch the virus|0 Where is this It would be nice to know there is a shred of common sense left|1 Again I want to clarify that I am by no means advocating that Cotten masks are equivalent or better than disposable surgical masks Theres no data on it However I believe its the most sustainable alternative with potential benefit and minimal harm to the medical staffs serving in the front line I want to emphasize that one more time so I dont spread any misinformation|1 I realise Im sort of contributing to it but there seems to be a semantic argument where people are defining doomsday differently The this is doomsday and the this is not the end of the world crowd can be in complete agreement over the ramifications of this virus yet argue vehemently|0 Youre assuming theyre expatriates It seems far more likely that any americans there are Tourists or there for business reasons Like Chinese Americans visiting family|1 Look there are reports of this happening in small towns in Lombardy which were suddenly hit like a bomb as the intensivist in charge put it Warzone like triage but it was in a hospital that had a 6 bed ICU to start with This doesnt mean the entire medical system is a complete disaster throughout this whole crisis everywhere ICUs prioritize admissions based on expected benefit to the patient all the time this isnt new even if the scale iswas in some places|0 Politicians are automatically in attack makethemostofthis mode Im only interested in what the scientists say not the career politicians nor their parasitic buddies in the media|0 Has anybody even thought about the self employed My husband and his dad work as self employed electricians and we have six young children to keep alive|1 meanwhile trump will complain that his glorious stock numbers are down|1 Yall will panic about literally anything huh|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 This has to be a troll No one can possibly be this arrogant But I guess children still have access to the internet |0 Correct however those silent spreaders are adding to the exponential spread which will overwhelm the health system in 48 weeks with the small percentage of seriously ill as per current projections At that point deaths start to rapidly increase and not just from Covid19 suffers btw The pandemic will indirectly kill those needing other treatment car accidents cancer etc A lot o people dont understand the most important impacts|0 I mean take a look at their post history for this subreddit They are essentially ridiculing us all for actually giving a shit about what is probably the biggest event to happen in many of our lifetimes|0 Ill chip in for their defense fund|0 Just finished watching Trudeau Should have gone with the lockdown these measures in trickles are gonna kill more peopleBanning of NonCanadian citizens or permanent residents Good Not banning US based traveler Bad They are a joke down there They have 10x our cases and will most likely be the vector that grows our cases Yes we have an economic interest with them but we can restrict non commercial entry No cars just trucks with goods Both ways I like the idea of screening passengers before they hop on flights to Canada but you know it will just be questions vs actual inspection People trying to get on these flights will tell you theyre feeling fine Unless someone is visibly ill infected passengers will slip through Stay home people The govt isnt going to guide us that way so we need to Hopefully the financial aid will be easily accessible to those in precarious work situations|0 Underreacting youll need more than a months worth of supplies|1 Glad I could brighten your day Have a happy Friday|1 I keep warning a couple of my friends to take this seriously and stop going to bars and parties every night They just reply with lol if I get sick my work is gonna pay me for two weeks of vacation I wanna get sick and then telling me to chill They just dont understand that yeah they will probably survive the virus but they are going to spread it to many many people who wont|0 There are threats from the stupid and threats from the smartStupid people didnt create the 2008 financial crisis for instance The people who did that were very intelligent very welleducated very wellinformedWho made the brilliant decision to tell people that masks dont work Who decided to confine people on those cruise ships and turn them into incubators Was it a highschool dropout Some dummy No it was people who each have a degree that cost as much as a houseSkepticism toward the elite is a healthy thing|0 Itll be 85F in a month there with a lot of sun I guess well see how much the weather really affects this thing|1 u may be surprised what ppl may think like all the i am a teenager news said i am immune or that TP cures corona virus|1 Whats up mods Wed like no politics posted here I think we all agree on this Can you ban political submissions|0 If they start it nobody is going to come and help|1 Either that or intergenerational warfare just got real|0 You wont have a cytokine storm unless the virus passes unnoticed for a long time which is super rare It isnt going unnoticed and is being stopped before MOST young people even get enough symptoms to consider going to a doctor thats why|1 Ha Thatll never happen in human history UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan reporthttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2016oct06unpeacekeepersrefusedtohelpsouthsudanrebelsrapedaidworkersreportWhat a brave people The cowardice is clear Hahaha Youre very funnyWant really brave Asian countries Try Japan Korea Taiwan Hong Kong and basically everywhere elseIf you want cowardice selfishness and a complete lack of honor Its easy to know where to look|1 Yep you nailed it Unfortunately|0 Im in Kent our primary school had its normal numbers today Not sure about the secondary as I havent heard from my oldest son yet My SEN child had an assessment today that the local authorities cancelled as they are no longer attending schools due to Covid19 I dont get why the local authorities have the right to protect themselves but the staff in our school are still expected to go into work risking being infected with the virus themselves|0 Fair point Or they both were fine at the time and contracted it later or both were sick at the time WHO knows|0 Outstanding 200000000 IQ big brain response|1 People love to be blissfully ignorant at my unihttpsiimgurcomWdYk9hhjpg|1 The guys at the top get to keep their jobs|1 Glad he waited until after St Patricks Day sThe damage is done for NYC He should have ordered this a week ago|0 Real talk is the US prepared for an emergency like this Im not American but Ive heard people from both sides saying that the US isnt prepared and doesnt have a proper plan and the virus will be catastrophic And then Ive heard people say that the US is one of the most prepared countries in the world for an event like this So which one is it No hate|0 The truth is that the medical community the historical community and in general social advocates all tend to agree Quarantine in general is an outdated method that rarely works but sounds really good Obviously you can find ways to make any tactic look bad Thats not going to go away no matter what technique you use Quarantine Raise the ire of the people break their trust in the government create far greater risk for the people inside the walls than they were in before Isolation Potential blowbacks from people with guns possible damages to families so on There is no magical cure to the situation Theres no one way thats best to be had Quarantines have one result isolation has another The question becomes which one has the least consequences Quarantining cities is probably significantly easier cut off all the major exits and most wont be able to go anywhere Call a state of emergency and use the military which most governments of the world are able to doThis is where the whole thing falls apart Unless youre willing to put up literal walls around the city and station military around the city willing to shoot anyone who tries to escape then you haven no real way of being sure its going to work Use the military to do what exactly A strong physical presence isnt going to deter people who are truly terrified and rebellious Youre either going to have to kill them which absolutely breaks trust in the situation or you need to be able to truly lock it down such that they cant escape at all Lets not forget that you have to be able to put up the quarantine fast enough that no one can well just leave That pretty much doesnt happen Unless you can roll the military in quietly while everyone is asleep and suddenly have a lockdown some people are just going to leave through unprotected exits Those people might be sick and the lock down was on some level ineffective Even more importantly Now that everyone has seen what happened in Wuhan how many Chinese people do you believe are going to be willing to seek help There are legitimately people who would rather die free in their homes than risk being locked downIts important to remember that the reaction to Chinas response is incredibly mixed Some praise it as a Hail Mary that successfully cordoned off a virus Others point out that there are cases outside of the lock down and that those cases may well be spreading quietly without report precisely because no one wants to go through Wuhan As to the question of Even further why would anyone volunteer to get tested when they could end up locked away for two weeksThis is no less true of a quarantine than it is of isolation Lets say that all of Boston locked down No one in no one out The sick just keep spreading it amongst each other and we all sit here watching them get sick some die some dont but theyre all trapped jobless without comfort or resources Now imagine you live in Manchester You come down with a cold Are you going to go to the doctor and get tested knowing whats happening in Boston Id argue youre even less likely because now its not just you that might be locked down its your friends and family and everyone you know The two arent really all that different in terms of how people react to it per se but only one of them puts everyone inside an area at greater risk|0 Best way to get people to demand a test is to tell people there arent enough tests Its like the flu vaccine shortage a few years back As soon as it was reported on the news everyone came asking for it|1 They didnt withhold the death It took that long for the test result to come back positive for Coronavirus|1 That is a copout Since our system of democracy and freedom is superior to communism and authoritarianism whatever they can do we can obviously do betterGonna go ahead and point out that since sharp is a China owned company the party says to do masks they do masks Conversely if our superior freedom based govt goes to say apple and says turn your factory into a mask factory apple laughs and tells them to pound sand We dont have any direct government control of any real manufacturing Only stockpiles I expect this will probably change through something like executive orders or special policies that will be rushed through Hopefully it will be done sooner rather than later so we can avoid shortages causing worsening outbreaks|1 Well none of this would also matter if neoliberalism hadnt insisted that outsourcing all of the fundamental structures we use to buid society to a nation we dont really get along with|1 The good news is that babies get sick after exposure outside of the wombso in that regard shes only infecting random maternity wards that these women will end up in and only then does the baby have a chance Wait thats fucked up too why is your neighbor an asshole|0 Hopefully youre not 80 or over because Italy will just let you die wont even try to save youYeah Italy is special spreading this deadly virus all over the world|1 At least youre only risking not getting a raise We arent getting a raise anyway but we are risking getting written up and subsequently fired|0 Who would have thought that a cheap shared economy company isnt as accommodating as more expensive traditional companies|1 Treat it like the flu to the average person is to go about your business as usual Just power through it Go to work as normal and maybe just try to distance yourself from people This is so fucked|0 With around 100200 or more bodies piling up every day and so little known about the precise transmission vectors one can hardly blame them for not keeping rotting corpses around Its normal for this to occur they just need official intervention to provide a protocol for autopsy|0 Hes not an idiot He knew exactly what he was doing Hes motherless scum|1 I get dizzy from this problem|0 Read between the lines The CDC is saying that masks are crucial in highhigher risk situations Masks are a limited resource say nothing about potential panic from mask buying therefore the CDC is making recommendations to maximize the number of masks available in higher risk situations The lack of explanation is clear the CDC is making a decision designed to improve total average outcome which happens to run against individual optimal choices If you want to call is authoritarian noise go ahead but its also reasonable public policy The CDC not wanting to say that outright is unfortunate but I think we can understand where the hesitation from telling people that theyre getting slightly screwed for the greater good might be coming from|0 Sothe Chinese planNot trying to be sarcasticBut that is exactly what they are doingHow is the US going to do that better than China|1 Hi construction works are not suspended if they can guarantee to respect the new safety rules This is what I know at the moment|1 Then were heading into different territory then Shouldnt the bay area developer receive more then since it costs him more to live Ie the 1000 goes a lot less for him than it does for the poorer class So now were at a of incomeBut now its less fair since youre objectively giving more to the well offImo it sounds reasonable that this is aimed at the 100k lower economic class For whom this amount makes sense for a one time payment of 1000 for someone who makes 2M a year really doesnt sound like a good use of money|0 And there are plenty of Americans who talk about the importance of the US constitution and who will yet vote next election for someone who violated their oaths and the emoluments clauseYou dont make a deal with the devil government when youre born into a society the life youre born to is whats normal to you|0 You can get both at the same time If you do youre gonna run a real chance of dying Theres a very real chance the deaths in Hubei are largely due to hospital acquired influenza and bacterial pneumonia Get your flu shot|1 I mean Ill go get tested as soon as they set up a free testing station somewhere around here|1 I just hope that things dont get so bad that well need Michael Bay to direct it|0 He waited until over 1 million were infected with swine flu before he did a thing You guys should really stop trying to put this on Trump How quickly you forget how useless the dems are in power|0 thank you|1 So if Spanish flu comes back we could use this Very helpful|1 What happens when the quarantine is lifted though Just one infected tourist and its another outbreak|0 Okay So you know how they are saying its not airborne and doesnt live on surfaces for very long This is false It can live for weeks in 4C dark environments like a plan cargo hold The airborne droplet phrase is applicable up to about R7 This virus is way more transmissible than R7 the origenal statements of R6 by the CDC then retracted were lowball numbers as they didnt want to cause panic before mobilizing If they are talking about clusters in your area its already too late to wear a respirator as the virus is already all around you If you started wearing a respirator on the first case in your area you should be fineFYI Im in an island in the middle of the Pacific with my family Left yesterday after spending 1500 on prep I dont have my computer with me I can remote access it and get more information but at this point I have already made my decision Expect level4 nofly coming this weekBeen drunk since yesterday morning|0 This is very encouraging Has there been any review of the treatment approaches in South Korea The outcomes seem inconsistent with China and other countries|1 Its really weird it got next to no coverage just now I couldnt find it through google I had to search my fb messages to a friend I knew I sent it to This seems pretty big it could explain the virus being ubiquitous within the country|1 No expert hereThe flu is considered a Coronavirus one of the familyBased on how many different strains and the fact that a new one forms every year if COVID19 mutates somewhat as much as the flu it could be a major issue of a simple cure|0 I feel like Im in a movie about deadly virus outbreaks watching this|1 httpstwittercomtheanchor7status1231058924310167552s21They announced that they will not test the government officials who worked on the ferry case because if they turn out to be positive the government work would delay Isnt that the definition of sweeping under the rughttpstwittercomemi333333333332status1230846889559375872s21Also you are absolutely not allowed to get tested in Japan unless you 1 have been in contact with a known patient AND 2 you have a severe pneumonia and you are dying|0 I disagree with some things but this has nothing to do with him|0 I think its more about trust issues like they want to be able to see their employees are actually working during the paid hours A lot of people would gladly foff all day without supervision|1 man bands are gonna be hit hard so many gigs will be cancelled soon|0 This virus was manufactured I become more sure if this daily|1 I must admit coronavirus did not scare me 2 weeks ago but hell now it does|0 Die laughing hopefully this doesnt turn out to be a poor choice of words|0 It doesnt have to be an instantly 100 lethal virus to be dangerous The rapid spread of it and invisible contagion is what makes it dangerous by both pneumonia and organ failure and more importantly infecting too many people to treatAnd again less than half a dozen patients with literally the best doctors in their country makes their recovery a lot less dangerous than 10000 infected at the same time For an example of how dangerous it is with that many infected there may be an example somewhere|0 Generally its the blue states that have their shit together economically and it seems to follow that theyll be able to mount the most effective responses Their numbers will initially be higher because theyre actually testing people but in a week or two who knows Personally living in an economically strong blue state with great hospitals and a lot of confirmed cases my biggest fear now is that the feds will sabotage our responsePlease note that I dont wish death on anybody even my political enemies This is just speculation on the trajectory this thing will take|0 There are several friends of mine including one of my band mates that has been eye rolling at the whole thing I just keep responding its not a big deal until it is|1 My employer said as of tomorrow we will telework indefinitely we have 100 capability of teleworking and we are perfectly capable of working 100 from home minus the regs that mandate we show our face every once in a while However we were just told to treat this telework situation as we would inclement weatherwtf is that Oh hey boss its cloudy with a chance of COVID19 may I telework|1 Pretty much how I see it Ive seen projected penetration rates of between 20 and 80 It really is unknown and the proof will be in the pudding when all this over I predicted NHS will be in massive trouble over burdened in about 20 days from now|0 Please crosspost this to rfemalefashionadvice and rmalefashionadvice|1 Im not a Californian but arent their transit systems both local and national pretty comprehensive|1 9AM on a rainy Wednesday morning People just dont care about coronavirus httpsimgurcomG4MLgbmBased on information Ive read this morning from Anthony Fauci it might be time to stop going to theme parks|0 I make my own with a French press and I havent bought a single cup of coffee in months since then Likely already saved hundreds for the rest of the year and more to come|1 All the best to you and familyWhat kind of numbers are you hearing locally about the number of people infected Seems like the true number being reported over here in North America are very low compared to true numbers|1 Now it all makes sense I dont know how businesses and governments work exactly but he could probably set a deal with the government to up production without penalty or something Just a thought|1 It was flu season christ|0 Ewww The restaurant sent a message to customers not to be bigots thats sad|0 Does anyone think they will make it illegal to own an N95 mask i bought 120 for a family of 5 1 It was once illegal to own gold so its not that far fetched from 1933 to 1974 it was illegal for US citizens to own gold in the form of gold bullion without a special license On January 1 1975 these restrictions were lifted and gold can now be freely held in the U S without any licensing or restrictions of any kind |0 Agreed OP stay safe please |1 Toys are necessary good or otherwise|1 Im definitely part of that exception I keep trying to warn people about how dangerous it will get and keep getting met with the flu has killed more people this is nothing and now I just respond with enjoy your coronavirus|0 Was discussing this with our trauma attending Saturday She summed it up concisely access quality cost Prioritize one the others suffer US prioritizes quality While everyone has access cost per patient is among the the highestCanada prioritizes cost Quality is good but access has sufferedBritian prioritizes access at expense of qualityetc|0 Its misleading and ultimately unworkable because it only looks at the issue from a pure economic perspective Laws are about more than pure economic efficiencyhttpswwwmarketplaceorg20170901whyeconomistsdontthinkpricegougingproblemhttpswwweconliborgarchives201711pricegougingi1html|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 United States is heading that direction|1 I guess most of us will just glitch out and lose our account so we dont have to deal with itFacebooks got your account instead|0 Its almost inconceivable that an n95 mask wont help reduce the chances of you getting the virus|0 Thats the head of the world health organization It depicts him as blinded by China because China is thought to be publishing false statistics If Chinas stats are true theyre hugely overreactingThe cartoon is quite clever because by allowing himself to be blinded he isnt protected|1 I think its because some count faster or slower I know I always add a ten onto things I have to count in case Im counting too fast lol|1 This is more of my common sense thinkingWe are still at 1887 infections 41 deaths 212 death rate 1 We are more than a week behind Italy If we have mishandled it we will begin seeing the effects Bare in mind our most densely populated states in the US include Delaware Massachusetts Connecticut New York New Jersey not including cities httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryushttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryus 2 Death rates will increase as hospitals fill and medical professionals begin choosing who to save and who to let pass This is where Italy is now|0 I dont even think theres a need to cancel as that will probably happen all by itself|0 Please tell me the extra money gets donated|1 N95 masks work IF its properly made to fit AND worn correctly Medical workers receive training and made to fit masks Masks without goggles only protect 2 of 3 known routes of transmission Most people use masks incorrectly whereas health care workers are trained in infection prevention and control Acutely ill individuals may want to consider wearing a surgical mask to help prevent others from being infected But realize that masks only offer partial protection Dr Torres and Dr Fair|1 It bothers me that theres so little research into this And alcohol 90 of Americans use it but we know scientifically so little about it proportional to its use|0 Awesome Thank you so much|1 This has been one of the worst wet sick winters ever here Tons of flu and colds Easily could see how a mild covid case could go undetected Also we have clean air maybe better immune systems from being sick so often low rates of smoking etc that all help keep cases mild|0 These improvised ventilators would only be used on people whose other option is literally nothing Doctors in Italy are triaging patients who need to be in the ICU because they dont have enough beds or ventilators Theyre literally deciding who has to die in order to save somebody else|0 learn how to read research reports but you will actually need to get a phd before you can understand them properly i have consulted with phd holding immunologists and they clearly refute your claim and can point to supporting data in the vaccine studies not only is there no data to support your claim there is data that dismisses your claim in the very studies you cite you simply are not qualified to make any assessments on the topic and like the other poster said you are talking out of your ass|1 At the very least hed have one hell of an illness and a good chance of complications|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 See I do wonder if we are being all doom and gloom for no reason But then I look at the current state of Italy and I just know we are heading that way if not worse The fact that as recently as last week we are still sending kids on ski trips to northern Italy the fact that Cheltenham is still going ahead it all seems counter intuitive I think I would feel much better if the government appeared to give a shit about us|0 In China we joke that Fallout is totally unrealistic as apparently masks will become the real currencies not caps|1 Hopefully you actually have the power to enact change while were stuck getting stomped by our corrupt overlords with little recourse|1 Get them to NYC They are going to need them bad|0 With allergy season approaching it truly will be a lot to ask of some people lol|1 They banned them before after SARS1 went around Then they decided to lift the ban|0 Northwest Arkansas here We have no TP antibacterial stuff Rice and dried beans The stuff that helps relieve flu like has nary a box gone Wtf is a 50 lb bag of rice going to do for you with a fever of 104|0 As a swede DONT come to sweden Were in deep shit This government is incompetent|0 Civilization as we expect it is tenuous Whats the old adage Two missed meals and youll see it all break down|0 Current number at 9821 cases|1 Also do you have any evidence to back up your claims that 1 immigration has anything to do with the problems facing the NHS or 2 that the UK cannot afford to pay doctors what they were paid in real terms ten years ago or what many other countries pay themHere some evidence for my claim From Dr Jennifer Dixon Chief Executive of the Health FoundationMigrants are good for the NHS Existing evidence shows that immigration makes a positive contribution to the UK health service Migrants contribute through tax tend to use fewer health services compared to others and provide vital services through working in the NHS Both the NHS and social care in England are suffering severe staffing shortages The NHS currently has 100000 vacancies including a shortage of 40000 nurses The health service is struggling to train and recruit enough nurses from within the UK It will continue to have a significant reliance on international recruitment for the near future to prevent further deterioration of services A nonrestrictive migration policy will be crucial in ensuring the numbers of doctors nurses and social care workers are sufficient to provide high quality care Current declining NHS performance is a result of several factors including rising demand due to an ageing population mounting workforce pressures and inadequate investment There is no evidence that migration has negatively impacted on the quality of NHS careSource httpswwwhealthorguknewsandcommentnewsexistingevidenceshowsthatimmigrationmakesapositivecontributiontotheukhealthserviceFurther evidence immigration policy BENEFITS the NHSMigration Advisory Committee MAC report EEA migration Published 18 September 2018 Steventon A and M Bardsley 2011 Use of secondary care in England by international immigrants Journal of Health Services Research Policy 162 9094 Prederi Quantitative Assessment of Visitor and Migrant Use of the NHS in England Exploring the Data Department of Health 2013The Kings Fund 2015 What do we know about the impact of immigration on the NHSDustmann C and Frattini T 2014 The fiscal effects of immigration to the UK The economic journal124580 F593F643|1 Alright Tide Pods II Tide Pod Harder|1 The US isnt testing because they know exactly what will happen if they do the number of cases will skyrocket and everyone will flood their local hospitals which are not preparedable to handle the influx of patients Theyre trying their best to sweep all this under the rug and postpone the inevitable at this point Instead of flattening the curve theyre trying to ignore it altogether This is insane|0 The man is on tape calling it a hoax This doesnt sound serious to me|0 15 days but it could be longer They must renew this mesure every 15 days Well see|1 Hospitals treat people Those are just camps that concentrate the population of infected|0 Would give a gold if I wasnt poor But this analogy is honestly spot on|1 What if there were a map or table of how much reserve PPE there was for how many healthcare workers in each country IIRC Ive seen 30 million masks under HHS for 6 million health care workers in the US|1 Imagine being this much of a sad cunt|0 You have to start to look at the ages of those who are passing Not just a blanket mortality rate This virus has a vengeance for people who are older 12 of people 60 or younger Once you get over 60 the game changes As countries take extreme measures the hope is to slow the rush But we are such a long long way off of millions of people dying|1 listen if they were ready to complete stop the whole country on January 24th that was the biggest day of the year and keep the country closed for 2 weeks they are not going to start lying about things getting better so people dont get worried and the desease gets even worse|0 this guy has boring weekends folks|0 them owning the assets in places outside china has 0 effect The problem here is in the supply chainIf companies have only a single source for parts or materials then they have not done a good job at risk mitigation Yeah these companies will fail The same can happen if their supplier plant burned down|0 I dont know what the product name is but heres the pics of mine from my shed httpsimgurcomaKIlPAbXhttpsimgurcomaKIlPAbX These pull apart from a roll of 100s The wire extends to the cut mark left to right You REALLY want the plastic to extend beyong the cut wire to protect your eyeballs in the case of an accident The ones I pull out of a used surgical mask are like that Its a small detail but probably worth it Each wire is 4 inches or so Thier intended use is to tie plants to spikes you have to stop them blowing over in pot in flower bed or against a wallfence|1 Yeah for some reason theres no real new news Its all kinda hush hush and its kinda worse than constant bad news|0 Great rebuttal fuckwit I dont use tp|1 Irregardless of the virus America must cut ties to China They are stealing our technology military secrets They are not to be trusted Read The 100 Year Marathon Itll scare the shit out of you|0 Actually everyday the ICU patients who cant be treated in Lombardy are sent over to other regions to be assisted Tuscany by itself has made 100 ICU beds available to this purpose As for medical equipment such as protective equipment there is basically none left in Italy and other kinds of equipment are scarce due to 20 years of cuts to healthcare funding but thats a whole other matter which is unfortunately common to most healthcare systems|0 5 million tests I doubt well need anywhere near that|0 What an idiot Hope the smart citizens remember this come voting time|1 They need to cancel it|0 Honestly I feel like the majority of people ridiculing people wearing masks are actually just sad and scared because they werent able to get any before they sold out|0 turn off your electronic devicesIsnt that kind of all we have for fun in self quarantine|1 They have already started checking temperature at subway stations since todays morning God bless us I am also living in Beijing and as I assume situation is going to be worst every day|0 Cisco has better deal|1 Hes never run down that battery by exercising Such a smart guy|1 last thing you want is to die with a dirty ass|0 Its going to get far worse The local Chinese restaurant has been closed|0 Except we are expecting that Mainstream opinion amongst epidemiologists is actually even worse upwards of 50|0 I completely understand the situation and Im telling you it is still a bad idea that will hurt patients and possibly break expensive equipment Bad ventilation care is not actually better than minimal good care|0 i like this|1 Yes Its almost as if you can discuss scientific issues in laymens terms in order to avoid gatekeeping|1 I dont find it funny|0 Didnt he recently recover from cancer Or is that just a rumor|0 We talk about vaccines generating herd immunity so why is this different Because this is not a vaccine This is an actual pandemic that will make a very large number of people sick and some of them will die Even though the mortality rate is likely quite low a small fraction of a very large number is still a large number And the mortality rate will climb when the NHS is overwhelmed|0 So they will get businesses up and running again to save the economy|1 I work in a university that told us keep on having small and large gatherings there is no problem here right now FFS SHUT It Down Youre supposed to be intelligent We have one of the biggest math departments in the worldsurely you can do some basic logarithms|0 And That doesnt mean that it is bad|0 WHO is my source from the WHO official TwitterSecretary Duque said there are mixed pathogens in the 44yearold male including Streptococcus pneumoniae and Haemophilus influenza type b BUTI just rechecked and WHO have issued a correction youre right it was influenza BI tend to trust official WHO pronouncements going through their CPG atm but this time Im wrong cos they fucked up Cheers|0 More like Warsaw tbh|1 Asians almost never have type 1 so I doubt it was type 1 He may have been overweight and suffered from type 2 though which means that type 2 puts you are risk means 510 of the population if at risk for death from ncov|0 Fuck sake this thing is bioengineered|0 Dumbass|0 22 and 35 dont look so different when graphed out like thisJapans populace is likely more apt at following direction and following precise hygiene procedure The culture there is astoundingly meticulousI hate to say it but this data makes it look like this thing is never going away Those are some consistent plot linesLets hope vaccination becomes the primary focus of global public health ASAP I know we need to flatten the curve but postponing the inevitable is not even half the battle at this point Stay healthy|1 There is nothing Trump the CDC or Jesus can do to stop this thing|0 as long as the fatality rate disproportionately impacts older people young people are not going to care What are we waiting for Young people to get sick and young people to start dying Theres a lot of young people out there that arent going to care until their grandmother or parents who is in frail Health dies Then theyre going to say that we could have done more|0 Americans who were on Diamond Princess Japanese cruise ship httpswwwredditcomrAMAcommentsf5hq05part3imaquarantineddiamondprincessutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 Im reading a lot of stories that tests are denied No personal experience Yours sounds like a lot of Covid tests are done How long does it take to get a result and why are there less cases than in Italy or South Korea then Still wondering why there is no information about how many tests get back negative|0 Better late then never|1 i think they dont want to stop it they believe that letting it run its course will have less economical impact than shutdowns i doubt this will be the case but it might|0 The thing about this is youre partially right that we need to keep logistics and groceries open However by not informing the public in general to take further precautions especially in affected areas we are inevitably spreading this further and faster and ensuring an Ro of 46 whereas if we could contain closer to 12 we could keep the stores and logistics going longer while prepping not that the disruption in supply chain wont wreak havoc in the meantime The problem is a lot of Americans wont go to the doctor thinking its common flu and avoiding massive medical bills that by the time the general population realizes this is a serious issue there will be many super spreaders and also people going without medicine as scarcity takes ahold of a frightened population trying to seek an overloaded medical system I believe keeping us in the dark hampers community efforts to control outbreaks better and setup care for elderly and sick|1 Also this spreads faster than the flu|0 You just start with their online chat and go from there Or any other means of customer support they have then Im sure they can direct you what to do from there|1 When you shoot your own self in the back while running away|0 And Parasite won the Oscars and Cannes|1 Hes such a wonderful person|1 Alright thats the last straw|1 But this doesnt explain about the reduction of numbers that the original tweet mentions according to the new policy as it should increase the numbers|1 sorry ive been on the phone with the US embassy and state departments coronavirus hotline Heres the email they senthttpsimgurcomH4ghdmz|0 Did the people who got healed get life long immunity Or are they still at risk for infection|0 The guy made billions of dollars using aggressive anticompetitive business tricks destroying humanitys hope for using computer technology as a source of common good and instead creating a status quo of stifling open code establishing proprietary software disabling cross platform compatibility and doing everything they can to transform software and hardware from commonly shared tools for everybodys benefit into his sick monopolyIf it wasnt for Microsoft the entire history of our relationship with computers would likely be different and much more egalitarian and users freedom respectingNow hes returning the money that he exploited out of users and workers to the public money which he extorted through oppressing of one of the best things thats ever happened to our species And he gets to spend a bunch of it on little pet projects like these still maintaining his effectively infinite wealth so that the general public worships him So the story goes Bill extorts billions of dollars by cornering the free and open software development market into his Microsoft monopoly then he slowly returns a tiny fraction of that money to the public and you all line up at his feet and start licking the groundOh and even media companys start making documentarys worshipping him like some sort of demigod with a special genius brain Theres nothing genius about extortionIf you love computers and technology you should hate Bill Gates from the monopoly bust trial verdictJudge Thomas Penfield Jackson issued his findings of fact on November 5 1999 which stated that Microsofts dominance of the x86based personal computer operating systems market constituted a monopoly and that Microsoft had taken actions to crush threats to that monopoly including Apple Java Netscape Lotus Software RealNetworks Linux and others|1 Tomorrow no for cereal This virus crazy yall|0 More infoTotal confirmed 3858 769 Active cases 3296 590 divided in 1155 91 selfquarantine 1790 446 hospitalized 351 56 in ICU Deceased 148 41 age range is 6694 Recovered 414 138 Tested 32362 2525|1 What You mean you dont just do it for fun Isnt exposure enough So greedy sss sarcasm just in case it wasnt clear|0 Shots fired|0 Same story I caught something that felt like a bad flu but my lungs where extra hit I still havent recovered fully Still have excess mucus|0 Sorry|0 Its just sediment settling to the bottom from lack of disturbance Pollutants in nature usually have halflifeshttpslinkspringercomarticle101007s1135601552259 and these vary widely in how quickly they dissipate from the ecosystem some stay for years or even decades Its not like if all pollution was erased every riverstream would be crystal clear The Amazon river is a great example because its always been muddy Thats just how it is Firsttime visitors to the Amazon or other large tropical rivers are often shocked to see the muddy brown almost pollutedlooking water However this color results not from sewage or pollution but from the heavy sediment load of the waterhttpsrainforestsmongabaycom06rainforestriverslakesswampshtml|1 thanksmost of those banks are talking about their consumer customers2 banks did talk about business customers small businesses 30 day relief deferments on loan payments what about next month no customers no moneybroken supply chains no producti stand corrected 30 days away from bankruptcy|0 I wouldnt care Id have watched everything on there already|0 Community spread has definitely been going rampant in NYC now for a few weeks if its not severe symptoms most people wont be stopped from going to work or school I work at an outpatient hospital have not seen numbers drop or riseIm looking forward to seeing how public officials will deal with this if the spread gets to a pandemic level|1 Id feel more comfortable if my provider was wearing a mask Less risk to him and me|1 I do hope so too I really wonder if similar predictions were made for other outbreaks Millions of illnesses is disturbing SidenoteI do take your opinion very seriously just curious|0 I guess my bad we are not on the same side after all|0 Yes|1 Damn|0 Pour one out and dont forget to restock|1 Ive been fighting in the trenches of Reddit for a dozen years I can gloss over comments that are dross I find most commenting here to be positive in a cathartic emotionally informative way Its much better for people to have a bit of a panic here online and vent ask questions and process in this shared space|1 Yes in sudbury He worked at the Laurentian campus which is why Laurentian shut down today with an hours notice They are actively testing students and closed the building he worked in|1 Most Americans are not in fuck you Im hoarding as much as I can right now A select few took it as an opportunity to make bank and they were very publicly named and shamed by the rest of us|1 In a normal situation I completely agree however pleae only look into birthing centres if they are attached to or have incredibly easy access to a special care baby unit if you think there is ANY chance you are carrying covidNeonatal physicians are practicing covid scenarios over and over right now in order to get newborns the best care should they contract it Respiratory distress is easily missed in newborns and can be quickly fatal|1 Most people in audit were probably working at client site a lot of consultants travel fairly regularly Tbh not even sure how many work in office daily|0 Better late than ever surely but then again what about workplaces The government is closing down schools and unis but children will get infected anyway from their parents who got infected from their coworkers|0 Europe should do the same to the US This is far from an effective approach but given the US is doing everything to avoid testing its own citizens and as long as that is the case the virus will spread massively and we cant trust their data there is little else that can be done In cases like this the most dangerous countries are those in denial and the US is the poster child of that here|0 Yea that makes sense Apparently they were told working with this disease required special training hence all the fresh nurses and doctors|1 Still seems like conservative recommendations to me Will this gathering have an immediate positive impact on the world and theres no other way to achieve it No Fucking cancel|1 No Spirit makes you socialize with more people|0 Yep exactly While glad its also scary and kind of well i dont even have wordsMy gf who has lupus flew up early last week from the states for a supposed 3 week trip thats now turned into 34 months x Due to her condition she doesnt want to be stuck in an airport for 9893 hours on either side well or in airport for 1 second bc who has a death wish that said the minute they announced theyre preparing for it though everyone knew it was coming on both sides kind of made me stop for a second with a weird feeling i guess sigh of relief why and a sigh of crash helmet buckled upstay safe everyone edit i can hear her sighing and sobbing almost in the next room texting her mom whos stuck at home in vegas and cant go back to their farm in argentina |0 Bring out your dead The Dark Man cometh Bring out your dead The Dark Man cometh|0 I starve so I can afford cigarette how do I quit|0 My Dad is 84 or will be in 2 weeks and working full time as a barber My mom is in her 70s and has asthma Im not keen on losing either of them to this crap|0 Cause the provinces are responsible for healthcare delivery|1 Good business yeah|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Peak number was 14000 confirm on the day they decide to put all patients with symptoms into hosipital to save test time Besides this day the peak was 4000 confirmed and 150 death if I remember right|0 Guys were losing the battle|0 And each day this is in addition to a normal day Worse in fact as health care systems are overrun people will die from other unrelated conditions that could otherwise have been treated|0 I work in urgent care I frequently get patients who come in and want to be tested for shit because someone near them is sick For exampleI had a patient come in and want to be tested for strep because a coworker as strep Are they having any symptoms No they just want to nip it in the bud sick Like come on man Ive got 15 patients in the lobby all hacking up a lung and you here wasting time And no Im not going to give you an antibiotic just in case|0 Thanks The following is my auto suggest from the arm flex is the day I can go to the gym and tomorrow night I can go to the gym and then go to the gym and then I can come over and then go to the park and then Ill be home and then I can come over and then go to the park and then Ill be home and then I can come over and then go to the park and then Ill be home and then I can come over and then go to the park and then Looks like my phone thinks I live in the park|0 Dude are you serious right now Theres been dozens of stories of people coming back from vacations from infected countries and using public transit going to work going to the gym etc for days then being tested for coronavirus and coming back positive That is evidence of not self isolating So in your opinion why are countries closing borders Just for shits and giggles You think Trump or other world leaders just wake up and say meh I feel like closing the borders today Of course hethem are getting told by health officials that closing the borders will help limit the spread in the short term You think COVID19 just floated across continents and began infecting people all around the world Like cmon man you are berating people for apparently not using logic but it seems like you may lack some logic yourself|1 Its because authoritarian regimes can do one thing really well Pandemic control They can lockdown areas Like truly lock it down Do you realize how nearly impossible it is to lock down a place like the US We wont do well to military grade vehicles blocking highways|1 Oh okay I guess the source I was looking at was outdated thanks|1 Even if the pandemic gets under control in less than a month the economic fallout is going to be enormous and not just at an individual levelMainland Chinas financial system is currently leveraged to the hilt and there is more bad debt hanging over the system than at any other time in history Either the system will eventually buckle or the value of the RMB will have to drop dramatically to dilute the losses What a shitshow|0 send the specs to china they will spit out millions of units in no time|0 An independent contractor is not an employee Hence heshe does not have the benefits an employee requires heshe is her own employee and therefore needs to be self insured for severanceunemployment It is a shady line between employee and exclusive contractor but usually the companies with the big lawyers win from the single employeesubcontractor|1 While its great this particular hospital is prepared as are a lot of others across the country Unfortunately dont let this one prepared hospital make you think that every US hospital is equally as prepared or prepared at all|1 are you suggesting people from San Diego should be saying lets go to LA so we can go to Disneyland because thats what your comment is saying does anybody say that besides tourists lmao I know youre prob proud of your comment since this became a pileon but your comment is actually one of the stupider ones congrats|1 Yeah I dont understand this cant happen here mentality How are we so different than chinca SK italy that the virus cannot spread here Friends are still telling me dw its just the flu trust our government experts to deal with it LOL|1 Yeah were fucked best mate and his mrs are off to tenerife tomoz for 2 weeks RIP|1 Because I like Italian Not all Italians have COVID19 you know Let me add this was in Melbourne Australia|1 For those that dont believe read studies done in POW camps where they studied effects of speculators on economyTLDR When they cracked down on speculators people who really needed extra rations could not get supplies they needed It resulted in starvation Peddlersspeculators are an important part of efficient allocation of resources|1 And yet we already have evidence to the contrary The first German infected who has so far infected another 3 in Germany caught it from an asymptomatic person|0 Generally I agree I also think amazonwholefoods are fools if they dont step up to this in their subtle marketing and rolloutessential food still have supply problems I expect selections to stay pretty much the same for now The biggest limiting factor being refrigerated food|0 Did they actually test you for cvirus Are you tracking your symptoms and how they progress daily Have a fever|1 The OPs dad and all of the other medical people in the USA invested too much money in their mansions swimming pools cocaine and crack whores and didnt invest enough in masks Now theyre fucked and have a surprised Pikachu face|0 Hopefully it is just the flu or something but the more people that are precatoius the slower the spread and the less stress will be put on our hospitals its now time for us to all do our part|0 Singapore is a single city with a population of 5 millions Italy is a nation with countless cities and a population of 60 millions Its easier to manage all virus related stuff when you have a smaller area and population to deal with Most nations dont have the capacity to do countless tests|1 thats pretty amazing|1 At this point I have no respect for Disney at all They are incredibly greedy even though they own almost all major movies They even forced people to remove something spiderman of of their sons grave|0 Also lol at your comment about the email addresses Opening Outlook tomorrow will be fun httpsiimgurcomywXyn19jpg|1 Being safe does not have to be a panic situation|0 Yes the rest of the story is probably plans to have right to choose where to export the vaccine and where to notA good instrument to gain even more political weight for US Blackmail anybody with threat to not to sell the vaccine and earn lots of money by selling it|1 Wow we went to phase two already|1 The best plan at this point is slowing it down until a vaccine is developed It cannot be stopped unless you plan to isolate and imprison the world population for about a month|1 Winning|1 This is Ireland Dont be a dick Dont be like Irelandhttpsmobiletwittercomtiananmensstatus1238893141341724673|1 It would be a crappy time to be pregnant Even just getting prenatal care could be really hardrisky Might be time to start asking around about a good midwife as a backup option|1 PCopyretweet text email enlighten|1 No 60 is the recommended|0 That is one stupid idiot |0 Please post this widely it is of great value The differences between their response and the US is shockingwhy do you imagine increased testing serves as a prophylacticNo tests needed to wash your hands and isolate when you are sick|1 It will not be taken seriously by any judge once the dead start coming in thicker and faster think Italy do you think anyone in Italy will chase up mums who kept children away from school in the south before the schools were shut|0 I was homeschooled for grades 16 We always got weird looks during the school year when my mom went out shopping and took us with her|0 The major issue here is that we dont have goodenough data and we cant trust the data coming from ChinaBut we do have something httppyrosoftcoukcovid19graphscoronavirus14mar2020jpg|0 I think Corbyn wouldve fared better simply due to the fact that his thing is actually caring about peoplethe vulnerablethe NHS etc He would have at least been driven to make an effort and cooperate with other countries listen to the WHO etc even if he made a few wrong choices or didnt handle it perfectly or whatever Whereas Johnson literally is incapable of caring the masses of the UK arent real people to him hell let it burn through the population if he thinks its politically expedient All he cares about is being able to restructure the economy into some neofeudal tax haven this virus running rampant might even help him do that Chaos is a ladder and all that|0 Has anyone seen an explanation why the US didnt just use the WHO tests like every other country|1 My family is turning against me because I dont think I can vote for Trump again I mean Obama had thousands die and 22 million infected with H1N1 so its not like I entirely blame the president but the fact that a shut down is still not yet on the table really makes me question who I voted for If we had no countries to compare ourselves to fine We are ignorant But we have South Korea China Italy Germany all of Europe Its as though we see this Mack truck driving toward us and stand in the middle of the street Im not afraid just confused|0 That describes exactly my wife being sick about 10 days ago Its been a long winter|0 Id just like to say thank you for not considering Oklahoma as part of the Midwest|1 1 or 2 K is not a bad idea More is a bad idea|1 You do realize that the shareholders include most of the working Americans with 401k accounts who hope to retire someday right This doesnt just affect bigwigs its much more potentially devastating for the middle class|0 Really need a justice boner for people like encouraging this behavior|1 glad you got training|1 I think something like this is hard to wrap your head around while life is still carrying around as normal around you Ive been following it closely since January but I live in rural Queensland and the most Ive seen in the real world is people buying out all the toilet paper starting last week I dont think itll feel real until its here|1 Yup we do I basically just ranted the same thing on another corona related thread If you look at our history Italy has been an ideal more than a united nation for centuries Yes we had the romans but then we had 15 hundred years of conflicts invasions small fractioned states The more passionate about unifying the nation were some 20 years old patriots who dreamed about a unique country free from foreign oppression accomunated by the language they were all already speaking Ugo Bassi Guglielmo Oberdan Luigi Zamboni Aurelio Saffi and many others have streets entitled to them in basically most italian cities Now go out and ask an italian if he knows jackshit about them|1 Theyre really not doing so well As others pointed out in this very statement I posted above they say we are in containment still and also that the virus will spread in a very major way in the same sentence lmao Theyre not doing enough and so many people are just blindly following them|1 a third of men there admit to committing rape and teenage boys say gang raping is fun|0 Even Bitcoin has had some mistakes that cost people a lot of money look up Mt Gox That being said if online voting was proposed I would support it|1 Truth is the first casualty|0 In this case NYS would be paying private labs with the automated capacity to do so Cuomo was pretty upfront about it all He said the only thing holding them back is the CDCs approval He also mentioned money of course but it didnt seem like he was concerned about it in regards to the testing specifically Cuomo is trying to find the people with the virus and stop the spread The CDC doesnt seem to want that|0 more like they are an extreme outlier considering that they are a virtual island due to north korea blocking their connection to the rest of asiaplus nearly all their cases arewere young females the least likely to die from covid19 after kids under 10 members of one secretive international christian cult due to this cults lack of cooperation I believe government officials were forced to test everybody around the cultcults are socially isolating but this cult has 200k members that aggressively recruits new members from all over the world so you have a physically isolated country and a socially isolating cult as the primary source for infection this is not the situation for any other countriesthis is going to end very very very badly treating it like an ideal case is beyond insanity people are clearly using south koreas misleading stats to push a very dark agenda|0 So have you asked your doctor to test you The President and Vice President are all over the news saying If anyone thinks they have it and a doctor agrees and orders a test they can get one Have you asked your PCP to order you the test What was the response Im guessing it was a NObut I wanted to hear that from you|1 Tedros says this is not a pandemic though so I guess its ok |1 What safety net are you talking about|1 I wrote more in my other post but in case people see this one and not the other one heres an articlehttpswwwvoxcompolicyandpolitics202031321178289confirmedcoronaviruscasesuscountriesitalyiransingaporehongkongShowing that the US is on track to be like Italy And we will be too without more stringent actions|1 Last night I drove by the big strip of bars in my city It was absolutely packed as much as any other Saturday night Theres no hope to contain this thing|1 A Google search gives you the 595k death count but the CDC gives you an estimate of 151700575400 so both of you could be right CDC linkhttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources2009h1n1pandemichtmlTop result when searched swine flu deathshttpswwwverywellhealthcomwhatish1n1swineflu770496|0 Yes but if you read my comment again youll surely see it that I never questioned whether they have a expiry date or not|1 You wont start over The ones with money left will buy up everything and the rest of us will struggle to get a job|0 All of the 1 in 6 are in serious risk of dying though if the hospitals are already full|0 I follow some sex workers on Twitter and its been devastating Many of them are losing their income and its not like they can file for unemployment|0 China also has a health care system that is pretty vulnerable to this kind of thing They dont have general practitioners If youre ill you need to go to the hospitalThat makes it a fertile ground for an epidemic|1 It is I dont know if theyve simply been misinformed or if theres a shortage and theyre trying to stop people buying them|0 Thanks Im not that worried though strict measures are being taken everywhere even if we are going back to work temperature checks sterilisation spray down upon entering the building tissue to use the lift etc|1 Also you need to put English on them I am dying to post that video where the grandma refused to let his grandson in|0 Ok in a month Im sure everything you said will happen|1 Good job|1 This is true my school got shut down |1 curious whats the endgame for a country like South Korea when it comes to corona wait til a vaccine is produced what if that takes months how would they maintain low infection rates|1 Lol keep watching its not going to happen lol|1 Nice find|1 In this exact same position Mandatory WFH until further notice and wife is an RN I feel like even if I never leave the house the virus will still make it to my 2 year old and myself and it scares the hell out of me|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Coronavirus is spreading a lot more due to people travelling If everyone just stayed home for a fortnight it would seriously slow it down|0 No truehttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpfirepandemicteam|0 Dumbest shit Ive read today|0 Hey I wouldnt put that in the conpiracy bin Lets face it nobody want to piss off China China wanna save face US does not really care for this case if theres a fall guy in place|0 Buybacks use to be illegal until 1982For good reasonWasnt it to prevent companies from defrauding investors by manipulating their own stock values by using strategic buybacks to pump their own stock price That would explain why the Dow Jones was so ridiculously overvalued|0 Yup Well in the sense of leaving my property Ive checked the mail and walked around my house and property daily I have a 7 cubic foot and 4 cubic foot chest freezer in addition to my main fridge in the kitchen and a drink fridge by my couch in the living room Ive also got a ton of dried and canned food Its probably literally a ton I have 250 pounds of rice aloneMy two trips were a doctors appointment followed by loading up the car at Sams and then a trip to Publix a few days later I will probably do another trip to Publix tomorrow to refresh my fresh stuff IE Im almost out of fresh milk and Id rather risk the trip versus dip into my powdered milkI normally leave the house about once a week but when youve got a 2600 square foot 4 bedroom house with 3 car garage to yourself theres plenty of room for activities I have a dedicated office where I work a dedicated pc gaming room with VR setup a dedicated home gym where I store clothing etc|1 Whilst I agree with you in a perfect world if my entire housing estate descended on the three newsagentsshops that serve it they would be empty in half a day|1 I agree There are still many practical things we can do Hope should be the absolute last thing we cling to|1 Trust government|1 If you boilrecondense it yes it would Anything thats not water would be left behind|1 Just do this because you know therell be wannabe Trumps and Sugars buying up all the supplies and flogging it on eBay Jesus hand sanitizer has a 500 markup shocking behaviour from some people I must say|1 And thats why the United States has the highest corona virus death rate after China |0 Your statement directly negates your own sentiment If COVID19 is less fatal to patients than Ebola then that is all the more reason for healthcare workers to take the extra time to don PPE Even if it is less fatal SICK healthcare workers have diminished ability to perform their jobs|0 Tomorrow there are 8 nonstops from Seoul into San Francisco and about 20 flights with stops In so many good ways California is tied to our neighbors to the East Sorry you are going through this now we are about to|1 This is also true for the Lakers which used to be in Minneapolis which is much more known for its lakes well MN as a whole than LA|1 When I was in management in fast food I got paid sick leave but I was disincentivized to ever use it Our QUARTERLY bonus was tied to all sorts of metrics One of the most important was labor costs if I took a sick day I had to pay someone to cover my shift from the available labor dollars my hours didnt count But the goals for bonus were so slim that even taking 4 hours off in a quarter meant I wouldnt be able to hit my numbers for bonus If you miss one category you lose entire bonusSo you are damn right I worked sick|0 Its like 911 after the second plane hit but before the first tower fellWe know But we dont know know|1 All the best it pays to take precautions early on If nothing happens youll just have extra toilet paper and dried foods If something does happen then youre all set to remain safe and healthy The risks of not taking action outweigh those of being a prepper|1 Florida has a large tourism AND senior retirement business complex Corona virus threatens both of those so all their politicians are trying to cover it up Money lives|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rbadunitedkingdom Im so angry that I actually mentioned politics at work during my homeworking announcement Youll be losing loved ones That FUCKING bastardhttpswwwredditcomrbadunitedkingdomcommentsfhq8ekimsoangrythatiactuallymentionedpoliticsatnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Theres a good chance my brother whom lives in NYC has it we checked with our family friend thats an ENT doctor And he said that he tried to get tested but couldntHes fine physically just a bit fatiguedTheres no way that the confirmed cases count for NYC is even remotely accurate|1 i hope they dont steal ur masks man thats what happens when the chaos hits man In China people were selling fake masks and recycled mask and they got jailed In Taiwan they were selling subpar masks in other places they were holding masks that were supposed to being shipped And the of course in the US theyre price gauging everything now|0 Yeah haha pretty much exactly this to be honest Im from California urban area so if people from outside the country have this image of just people in the Midwest are uneducated or just people in the South Ill tell you thats completely not true I went to a large public uni and nearly all my friends are liberals Theyre all smart in their respective fields Not one could tell you who St Patrick is or why we have this holiday in the first place When we were little it was about green food fun Now its about binge drinking fun Hell I dont know who St Patrick is and I study comparative religionI think the majority of millennial though about Ireland is Leprechauns Green Part of the UK NRA whats that I saw a quarter of the Wind that Shakes the Barley once watching travel vlogs of Ireland they say crisps thats weird legalized abortion is cool Love Island and potato famine But Im just one millennial and thats completely anecdotal|1 Do you have it running yet I have a rig of 5 1070s collecting dust|0 Fuck me we need a Malcolm Tucker in there to kick their arses This is long past containment |0 Can you post the numbers as tables please Nice charts|1 then the news every day should be much worse than the day before But thats not happeningI think the problem with this statement is that it is based on the underlying assumption that countries are accurately and timely reporting information for example UK has now announced that they are only reporting weekly and that the very small group of people in charge of curating the mainstream media stories are actually interpreting stories the same way and that the plight of individuals who are actually living the experience all have access to a platform to tell their stories As a hurricane survivor I can assure you that there are lots of stories of suffering and insanity that never made the mainstream media because there are only so many front page spots and so many reporters Also you may want to try looking at more nonenglish news sources|0 Not sure what you read but a lot of articles are correctly saying drinking alcohol wont help you avoid catching it because alcohol suppresses your immune system Usually doctors dont want you drinking it during illness for a variety of reasons its poison damages systems that are trying to recover can adversely affect medicines even make them inert not work and if it further depresses the immune system it can delay recovery or allow secondary infections What theyre talking about is like an emergency ripcord effort to slow down an overreacting immuno response that causes your body to also attack itself while it tries to fight the disease so you dont get as much permanent damage Not sure we have any data on that being ridiculous or semifunctional as a last resort Once we have treatments like maybe more or varieties of suspected usefull malaria fighting drugs I can pretty much assure you confidently no doctor will recommend you go on a bender to avoid dying or having lungs 60 years your senior|0 What a great way to stay uptodate on whats going on though|1 moving goal posts maybe you should read the comments again No idea why you are trying to find an argument|0 Are you honestly gonna sit there and spin what I said like that Are you gonna pretend I meant the whole fucking pandemic is a hoax when that is clearly not what I said People like you are the exact type of people that shouldnt be posting shit about this Youll just lie and spin shit for drama and fear mongering|1 I truly hope they fine her and then if there is a government stipend given out she is exempt from it|1 I actually have found myself needing to navigate that Since I have been a relatively early alarm bell sounder I have this weird toldyouso egotistical bullshit feeling as the situation worsens I dont want to get off on the pandemic getting worse and I am certainly having to acknowledge and resolve those feelings as they arise I can be glad I helped to warn people but I dont want to get off on how right I was|0 Yes it is the same in Ontario However what other people are saying here is correct its not just because there are legitimate concerns and other countries are closing down schools to reduce spread So at least you have info to cite if someone gave you a hard time thanks Reddit A for the info|1 This sub is an amazing resource and I 2nd the OPs request Would love a stickied Facts hit list with links|1 Dont be scared It will all be good in the end Take good care about your immune system Sleep enough eat healthy dont worry you will be fine|1 This old tradition is fairly new its not like many Chinese were buying rhino horns or elephant tusks or pangolin scales 50 years ago|0 You will still catch corona sorry not sorry Maybe then you can understand the meaning of less than 100 effectiveness|0 Yes many drugs are based on natures and herbs But only after intense investigation and stringent clinical trials do we feel confident using those plants and herbs as medication Chinese and other Traditional medicines have none of that|1 My mate from England was adamant about going to Italy for a skiing holiday LAST SATURDAY AND HE FUCKING WENT ANYWAY He was skiing one moment and the next the resort was being quarantined and he was evacuated WHEN THEY LOCKED THE COUNTRY DOWN Thankfully he got out but hes under selfquarantine for 14 days Ask her if she fancies getting grounded in NYC during a pandemic lol|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsferms0cdccandeclareendemicinahardhitareaandfjs872qcontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Not to mention that spring break is coming up I havent heard of a single person even thinking about canceling their plans to travel I never had plans to travel so Im a statistical oddity lol|1 Thats actually a pretty common complaint in writing circles We want to portray reality but consumers arent objective enough to understand what that looks like and consider it crazy or stupid|0 No fuck those nwahs The only thing Argonian swits were made for is harvesting kwama eggs|0 A bad shave Hes got a GREAT shave|1 I was going to have a school trip here but then they banned all school trips in the UK|0 Exactly my thoughts But nah|0 I want off|1 This isnt crashing stocks because the Chinese government restricted short selling and selling stock|0 I think it was Jan 23 or something that I followed this sub Crazy how I remember that|0 Whoever published the median must have the data and for some reason didnt publish other calculations like the mean average Maybe they felt the median data was more reassuring who knows But you cant have data to calculate median and at the same time not be able to calculate mean You need the same raw data|1 I wouldnt know Its all about the money here Cant shut down the stores when theres money to be spent by panic buyers USA USA USA|0 Thank you kind friend|1 And Im not denying thatWhat is not helpful to the conversation is making up things that arent remotely true about the US economy in a discussion on the economic fallout of the virus which the parent comment did|0 N95 and N99 masks are effective As long as the mask has a tight seal around your nose and mouth it will work well Regular surgeon masks are not effective due to the air gap on the sides Please due not spread misinformation|1 The unpleasant thing is that most of the footage from China that leaked out in the beginning which was suspected of being fake turned out to be real|0 This video was posted more than 3 days ago on twitter the Belgian police responded saying he was arrested Turns out he was just drunk and didnt have any viruses|0 Youre testing for a basic seal that determines the fit of the mask to your face If you tighten it youre just forcing it onto your face Arguably works but to see if it the mask truly fits is too see if it forms a vacuum seal when you breathe in without the straps tightened If the straps are on you wont know if theres a proper seal or not|1 If you look at the other video it actually seems theyre locking everyone in All the houses in that street are lockef shut by the local committee Makes sense in a way If you lock people in for a few months the virus will die out eventually So will some of the people of course On the up side theyll probably be supplying them as well|0 This is a shit article A classic maybe maybe not filled with speculation If you dont have any good data then just shut the fuck up please thanks|0 If you get sick and your employer does not give you paid leave go to work and be sure to hug them|1 Its because we say its flu if its just a bad common cold People experiencing real flu know it better|0 MI hasnt had any cases yet We didnt restructure until we got our first couple of cases Hospitals dont need much to rearrange Beds are all on wheels waiting room chairs are easily moved|1 Im pretty sure theyre already doing it with China Thailand was one of the first countries for the virus to hit if I remember correctly|1 Yes Thankfully both my wife and I are in IT She works for a commercial software company and Im a contractor currently working for one of the big5 banks Both of our workplaces instituted work from home policies last Friday|1 Where fear reigns a scapegoat is demandedsomeone to heap all the blame of the world on A lynch mob is still a lynch mob if the victim did wrong|0 Dude over 50 of Canadas population lives south of Seattle The majority of Canadas landmass is definitely north of Seattle|1 I literally gave you a CNBC link that stated that the rally was due to expectations that the fed would cut rates If it was due to QE it would have been stated therehttpswwwnytimescom20200302businessstockmarkettodayhtmlhttpswwwcbsnewscomnewsstockmarkettodaydowrisesonexpectationofratecutstooffsetcoronavirusAgain no QE has taken place The rally was not due to QE Not sure how else to say it If you have a source that states that the rally was due to QE that was actually done please link it|0 Yep|1 NOW DO YOU SEE WHY PEOPLE ARE SO EXCITEDEDIT just an fyi from my research these products arent ready for prime time yet and dont clean as well as is necessary|0 Most likely theyll cancel her flight|0 Make sure you are fit and not deficient in any vitamins and also lead a stressfree lifestyle Breathe OP D|1 Oh ok Thank you for that|1 I sold guns for years at a dealer during college More havenots own guns I cant get a statistic but if you knew anything about gun culture youd know thats the case Havenots will be the ones dealing with their neighbors looting Look at most major riotslooting they usually occur in the place where those people are from|0 Yes it also flows through Burundi|1 I think security is the biggest thingWhich is funny to me My remote jobs were with security companies and my hospital job dealt with analytics patient data When I hear we cant do it because of security I immediately think its an excuse There are far too many companies that do it correctly that everyone knows how to do it and what the best practices are The problem is those same managers I mention feel that they need to put all these other policies in place to insure productivity that the implementation gets bogged downSecurity is not a technical barrier Its an organizational one|1 Many suppliers I talk to are optimistic and mention that they are already open or will open later this month Everything else I hear on reddit though mentions that they will open in March I dont know what to believe|1 No doubt a quarantined jail cell Right|0 its back up 500 on the historical dip of 2300 yesterday so much winningalso its the virus fault not TrumpEdit s|0 Right on Israel They know what the fuck is going on|0 This is just one example of so many of how much the FDA stifles medical innovation|1 The United States of America has entered the chat|1 I know I will The second things look up and restaurants and bars and attractions open again Ill be on the first plane somewhere warm and sunny and will do all the things I wouldnt doubt others doing this as well I hate to say it but the ones that will be immediately affected by this are the ones that likely wouldnt have had the money to throw around regardless For most people who pump money into things like that this is just a tiny blip and things are not going to collapse once they get out desperately need a release and start spending|1 Well I literally just saw a Model S involved in a car crash|0 Thats basically what Ive been doing To avoid looking crazy at the till with a cart full of non perishables Not a fan of plastic water bottles so I just bought a water filter thatd catch everything I needed from out of the river in my backyard That sucks about youre meds though This virus wont get that bad unless it seriously mutates Right now its on track to just define this decade not century Probably hopefully Prepare for the worst hope for the best has always been my motto Take care man|0 The response here in the UK is seriously starting to resemble that of Chernobyl|0 Boycotts on non essential business still running|0 Holy shit Not good|0 And every time he says believe me the next sentence is a boldface lie|1 These are insane times we live in a developed country voluntarily shutting down is not something Ive ever experienced in my lifetime before|0 Or people still crowding resturants and bars Yeah we absolutely should|1 Nancy Pelosi killed him and said it was the coronavirus to make me look bad|0 Im sorry |0 The CPAP usually prescribed now is a bipap that shuts off during exhale and they work much better than the earlier models that kept up a steady stream of air I agree the CPAP is not a decent ventilator but if this gets worse it might be a good thing to look at for modifications|1 Just tried to research that and I cant find any relevant information on the testing requirements although you make a good point Seems like many symptoms are mild though and a lot of people will have no symptoms 0014 of the pop being tested and 36 that being positive is a bit worrying tho|1 Lol or just assholes trying to be contrarian which you can find anywhere Not everything is boogeyman Trumps fault|0 I am currently quarantined at home My primary care doctor calls me daily to ask for my fever log I take my temperature several times during the day and keep track of it and to let me know Im still waiting on a test and to make sure Im still alive My boss also calls me every day because hes like a dad to me and if I dont answer he knows to come take me to the ER because its gotten worse I feel like Ive been hit by a bus and dragged but Im not dead so I consider it not too bad|1 Finally in Colorado this is happening Ski resorts shutdown rec centers shutdown etc Hope its not too late|1 It is improbable that SARSCoV2 emerged through laboratory manipulation So youre saying theres a chanceSeriously there is little chance this came from a lab The natural explanations make more sense They just arent as fun|0 Fuck I wish America had her as its leader Im a Canadian and am happy with our response thus far but Trumps handling of this situation is giving me anxiety up here|1 Speak for the company you work for I work for a small business and all of us are currently working from home Not supporting small businesses because of a personal vendetta is incredibly selfish and short sighted Dont be ridiculousEDIT That being said I do understand where youre coming from That owner is a dick and I wish you and your family well|0 1 Close schools 2 Temperature screenings at the entrance of buildings3 lower the test threshold more tests4 push the development and test of vaccine5 set up isolation observation spotsNot in that order just things comes to my mind|0 Interesting calculations So what happens if I get a minuscule droplet of saliva containing the virus into my mouth Will it not contain enough viruses to cause the sickness Will my immune system kill the viruses quickly enough Or is it unavoidable once the viruses enter my system and your numbers show the probability of this happening|0 This is a political move China wants to create distractions by sending a message to the world that the US are underprepared and not responding well to the epidemic when our dead counts are only an fraction of theirs While US scientists are working relentlessly on a vaccine They are pointing fingers if you look you loseStill thanks Jack Ma|0 Great ideabut they would all still be packed on the planes together later No way to easily fix this one|1 Maybe not but Im really just pointing out that this article is stupid I also see no mention of the WHO condmening us just questioning the approach Why would he disagree if its his idea I dont see us doing fuck all either arent we trying to flatten the curve nobody has said old people need to get infected the idea is that if enough healthy people get infected its more manageable than everyone isolating themselves now and then there being a sudden outbreak when everyone gets sick of it in a few weeks time meaning theres not enough resources to look after everyone Thats the impression I got anyway|0 Nice analogy|1 Its not about forgetting it is about not caring Short term profits are all that matters to so many people Our government in Netherlands cares more about imaginary numbers in Amsterdam than the lives of their citizens as is of course tradition|1 Meanwhile your govt probably is advising you to just wash your hands and dont wear masks and turning people away who ask for tests because they have not been to China or Italy recently and been in contact with an infected person Schools arent closed and people arent staying home from work when they are stick|0 No Check thesehttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfedbnfachinesebabywhowasinfectedwiththefjodvf3And experts theorize that whether a coronavirus infection takes a turn for the worse depends on a persons immune response The virus matters but the host response matters at least as much and probably more says Stanley Perlman a virologist and pediatric infectious disease specialist at the University of IowaOnce SARSCoV2 gets inside the human respiratory tract its thought to infect and multiply in cells lining the airway causing damage that kicks the immune system into action In most people it should trigger a wave of local inflammation recruiting immune cells in the vicinity to eradicate the pathogen The immune response then recedes and patients recoverFor reasons that arent entirely clear some peopleespecially the elderly and sickmay have dysfunctional immune system response that fail to keep the response to particular pathogens in check This could cause an uncontrolled immune response triggering an overproduction of immune cells and their signaling molecules and leading to a cytokine storm often associated with a flood of immune cells into the lung Thats when you end up with a lot of these really severe inflammatory disease conditions like pneumonia shortness of breath inflammation of the airway and so forth says RasmussenLocal inflammation can turn into widespread inflammation of the lungs which then has ripple effects across all organs of the body This could also happen if the virus replicates faster than the immune system can respond so that it then has to play catchup to contain the pathogena situation that could also cause the immune defense to spiral out of control|1 Its all about the immune systems ability to keep up with the virus Ill take an extreme example for illustration blackpoxBlack pox is basically a really bad case of small pox in humans It happens when the immune system is compromised and doesnt fight it well It can happen in other species as well monkey pox in monkeys etcScientists literally replicated natural black pox by injecting A LOT of pox virus into lab animals The viral load is so high that its too much for the immune system to keep up with IF exposureviral load didnt matter youd expect those injected with a lot to be the same as those exposed normally but it was more akin to those without much of an immune responseTLDR yea its a bad idea to expose yourself to a lot or over and over|0 i was amazed that he is allowed to talk like that in tv is he dead now or just infected|0 Hospital spaces require many bathrooms electrical outlets and Oxygen pumped into every room They might be able to use that space to do outpatient testing but it wouldnt work at all for the level of care these patients require|1 Thats the thing though When someone eats something they dont eat often their intestinal microflora have issues handling it and it causes diarrhea If you have eaten it for years it will not shock your insides Most people only go to TB occasionally and so the meme survives|1 So now calculate given the average length of hospital stay for COVID19 2 3 weeks and average number of beds free at any given time how many weeks the cases would need to be spread over so that we dont run out of beds|1 When the food runs out you wont need to worry about needing toilet paper s|1 It has helped me to stop pointlessly worrying about their wellbeing when they refuse to see the situation for what it is and continue to be condescending toward me not for telling them what to do but for just taking care of myself|1 You are retardedThe least damaging way is the China close boarder and Quarantine for a month let the virus die off resume yolo on Wall Street bets for free moneyEnd of storyBut your way just causes mass death real prolonged economic damage Prepare the hospitals Theres not enough icu beds in the USA for this to blow up|0 sadly doesnt surprise me were do for a tragedy and this just might be it|0 Thats assuming people develop long term immunity not something that often happens with coronaviruses This one terrifies me Hoping that isnt how it goes Sewing question of people becoming reinfected isnt reassuring|0 Oh thanks|1 Y but usualy doctors dont die when they deal with sick People|0 Not just super spreaders but central to an industry which is a hotbed of super spread If they used this info to halt games it was a wise moveAll that said it sucks that testing has been so limited|0 I have a break coming up from university I was supposed to take a trip to Oslo and Copenhagen which I cancelled a couple weeks ago I have coursemates that are still flying all over the place not voting or taking precautions Its dangerous and selfish|0 I was able to get bulk rice and beans at Sprouts Also you might want to try HMart|1 I read soaking in a saltwater solution would kill a virus on the masks also|0 At Amazon theyre letting up go home or stay home whenever we feel sick Its unpaid but its still better than getting fired for not having any time off available to use|0 I rather take my 01 chance of catching the coronavirus and 1 chance after that Of dying in America than live in any shitty Asian country where they take away your rights |0 Really This sub is going to shit|0 I think those are wine daquiris noOther states have drivethrough liquor stores but theyre pretty rare Ive been to one in Saginaw MI and Sandusky OH|1 Right now everyone should be practicing social distancing sick or healthy If you have any symptoms you should isolate The test doesnt change anything|0 Im in Argentina at least you guys have mild wintersHere when we hit 0 and lower things are gonna get ugly our healthcare system was already falling apart before this|0 Dont forget kissing Thats why couples are so often both infected Direct viral load transfer through phlegm|0 Like this numbers game is going to affect Dear Leader|1 Brilliant Thanks guys |1 Hi I am foreigner residing near Milan my flight is soon As much as I like to see how everyone is reacting my roommates and landlady dont take it seriously When I told them about the numbers and cases they just laugh it off and say its fine|1 Patient zero wasnt at the market27 66 patients had direct exposure to Huanan seafood market figure 1B Market exposure was similar between the patients with ICU care nine 69 and those with nonICU care 18 64 The symptom onset date of the first patient identified was Dec 1 2019 None of his family members developed fever or any respiratory symptoms No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later casesLancet January 24httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620301835fulltextArticle goes on to mention that the first fatal case was tied to the market|1 No The article specifically says that was not included but that negotiations over that will be involved in a bill to bail out businesses next week|0 I can start working from home starting next week but my husband does not have that option Also someone needs to watch the kids while I am workingI want everyone to stay safe I want my husband and I to keep our jobs and I really wish I knew exactly what I needed to doI wish we were actually testing people|1 No it will not How is this trumps fault I get that people hate trump but stop with the hate They made a good choice go let the states be the deciding factor on whether to close the schools or not|0 Dont forget your flu shot and pneumococcal|1 Time to get a new husband jk Im really frustrated about people compare this to flu Same as South Korea and Italy and Iran who would ever imagine it could be that bad Well it is that bad|0 Dont listen to the Whitehouse bullshit machine Theyll say anything to get the heat off|0 I dont know about that The bottom class as you call it cant afford normal medical procedures as it is so this wont really affect them directly and those who could will likely face hospitals so full they cant be seen anyway The likely scenario if it gets bad is the govt telling everyone with symptoms to stay home and self isolate treat it like a normal flu unless you have severe symptoms with difficulty breathing Everyone else will just ride it out and the unlucky 13 or whatever percentage it ends up being will become a mortality statistic If youre looking for profit invest in crematoriums and funeral homes Im guessing they are about to get busy and funerals arent cheap|0 Chris Whity statement to a board of mps said all the modelling they have done points to a peak in 9 weeksIts my opinion that the government policy is to make a lot of statements about containment whilst what they actually want to do is let the virus run its natural path and then go on damage control in 3 months when its all overExpect lots of statements about it being a worldwide issue lessons have been learned etc etc|0 Its like people played plague inc a few times and think its just like real life|1 the worst flu I have ever gotten was getting drunk after already showing signs of being sick Going to festival getting your self physically exhausted then get drunk Corona virus thats not a good combo to have|0 Note that while the hypothesis that there are two strains of the coronavirus has yet to be proven conclusively in general the milder strains of viruses spread faster because they leave their hosts walking and transmitting the disease longerIts also the milder strains that have a higher chance to escape detection and create new centers of outbreakVarious strains of influenza are believed to have started out as much deadlier diseases as well until they settled on the ideal fatality rate of 0102 that maximizes the tradeoff between being virulent and bringing down the host too fast|0 also after a few decades our bodies begin to forget the things we were inoculated against long ago Thats why the vaccination guideline for adults is to renew the childhood vaccinations measles chickenpox tetanus etc every 10 years to preserve immunity|0 Yeah we ought to be more like countries with other economic systems and arrest people who spread rumors online and weld people into their apartments|1 Nobody is perfect|1 Maybe they swab his dirty diaper|0 The panic buying sending hordes of people to their nearest grocery stores and waiting in lines of hundreds of people in the past few days has probably accelerated the spread of the virus as well Its going to get worse in the next few days|0 Do they have emergency laws in place already|0 Thats what theyre doing Well not welding but hes not allowed to leave his home|1 I think so too i dont want it to be wishy washed by an emergency of someone whose in their flat for 4 weeks I really sympathise I truly do But its not ww2 its not Syria and its not yet Spanish flu I dont like comparing apples to orange its cruel when you have internet and food and home and compare to the Syrian refugees and a rich very rich country like China can never be compared to the suffering of the miserable children of Syria or old Yugoslavia or everyone in Europe in ww1 and 2 My grandfather was 16 in ww1 my family were farriers or blacksmiths My grandfather at 16 because he knew horses his job with a pistol was to run in between the trenches to get the iron off the hooves of the horses and to shoot the men that were wounded dieing and rotting in blood Insanly he survived first world war and fought in the second He was an insane mf and I hated him I still do thats the price of war|0 I did some search It seems the usage rate is too low downtown due to hilly terrains and narrow roads so bike companies only deploy them in flatter areas like Chengyang There are safety concerns regarding steep slopes as well In Dongbei they will also retrieve bikes in winter In places like Harbin where winter is so long its not economic to deploy a lot|1 Only the elderly and immunocompromised will die Just the fLu|0 where do you think swine flu which killed 240k came from|0 No the people need emergency unemployment The business can get funding and still lay them off|0 Oh no Im quite aware of this and its shit It seems like it would benefit me if I just didnt work at all and collected state funding|0 I work at a hospital have been quietly giving people the heads up to start stocking up on stuff weeks ago yet was met with a whole lot of mehh Ill think about it but I doubt anything will really come from all this The hospital also didnt help prepare anyone because the only thing they did for weeks was send out the occasional CDC press release to our emails which clearly no one bothers checking I had to be the one to print them out hang them around the unit Im not even the damn manager or Educator|0 Be worried about what else gets hidden in the appropriations bill|0 IMPORTANT The new cases 977 is only PARTIAL DATA still missing the Lombardy chunk Given the death toll and exponential curve it should be much higer|0 Yeah this is different than whats been found in both China and Korea Im not sure what to think|1 Truer words have never been spoken|1 Hey guys even though youre supposed to selfquarantine dont forget to go out and put your cat in day care s|1 Twitter may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial accountshttpshelptwittercomenmanagingyouraccountabouttwitterverifiedaccountsRemember that anyone can write whatever they want to on Twitter and that Twitter content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Same here 2 days ago I was in tears For some reason Ive felt more optimistic today but idk just trying to enjoy myself for now|1 Maybe they will be the ones having the last laugh being stuck in a country with socialized health care|1 Thanks for posting This seems to be providing rational and basic facts about the virus which most of us want to hear Im glad youre doing well OP please post updates on this thread I hope you all recover soon without any issues|1 Not to mention if youre not making sales youre literally just paying employment costs for no revenue|0 You have never seen death in a home for the elderly have you This picture you have in your mind its pretty I used to have it too Let me tell you in almost 4 years of working as a nurse and caring for sick and dying old people i have yet to see someone die like this Death is kind in ending the suffering that comes first|1 Understandably youre making a good point for children and parents who are employed by someone not parents who are business owners whos business would be shut down if they had time off to look after their child The reason why the government hasnt shut down everything here is because a lot of people would lose their lives in an economic sense within a week of closures and no hault on bill payments etc etc|0 Cause there aint no way Im getting coronaGod bless OHIO|1 Any protection is good now time for all gov to check and secure enough protective equipment for doctors and nurses|1 As of yesterday there are over 1000 people on home quarantine mandated or otherwise We havent had a death yet but they postponed the Boston Marathon which hasnt happened in its 127year history So it will be interesting to see how this plays out TLDR I have no idea I dont think thats publicly known at this point|1 I wouldnt say people are panicking but they are staying home Its not underplayed at all here Its the main news its on every TV channel Updates 247 They are taking it very seriously I have some friends here that message me everyday to stay inside and always wear a mask if I have to go out not panicked just cautious|1 Ive seen emergency cash posts on Twitter and IG where those with lost income can post pictures of bills and others can reach out and donateThis system is such a joke We need UBI or something|0 Girlfriend is 34 weeks in and also living in Amsterdam we were at the AMC yesterday and they seem to be handling things well so far Kids even little babies seem to be able to handle this virus pretty well But scary times nonetheless|1 Honestly I would wear gloves and a mask to work Not that the mask will help filter out the virus but it will remind you to not touch your face Either that or if you have some vacation time now is a good time to take it|1 i hate having mods tho they always end up overmoderating and just gets on my nerves i never see any racism and if there is any im sure theyre shamed just experience from other subs where mods are over the top busy bodies makes me not want one here|0 Yeah fuck Drump and his braindead supporters if he ends up killing me or my wife because of this just Im trying to straddle the fine line of looking crazy to my work and looking after my health There are no confirmed cases yet in my area Northern AZ but its really only a matter of time before they are found and spread Trying to decide when I should request to WFH until this blows over|0 It is free and cost very very less if you visit Government hospitalFree ambulance service for govt hospitals|1 The WHO is getting it all wrong Declaring it as a pandemic early will raise awareness Yes the initial shock will be painful but the panic will ease when the spread slows down and the news improveAllowing it to spread undetected is stupid|0 And I bet you know exactly whose heads should go on those spokes right If only we gave away or right to consentual exchange and traded it to our local tyrant to distribute death on a whim to whomever he doesnt likeSurely that will solve lack of supply|0 cCFRs are consistently falling as we get better at characterizing and treating CV19Got hard evidence that the fall in CFR is due to improved treatment and not just better diagnosis of mild casesThis is a serious question not a challenge this is something Ive been trying to figure out for a while|1 Right thats why I said it might mean he didnt get treatment I dont know the condition of the hospital he was at and I dont know what condition he was in But I can guarantee that IF he was in a situation where they had someone who needed treatment and was much more likely to survive they have to pick that person|1 My friend has taken all of the available data and made a trend line off of everything available today The total growth rate is 196 per day from that database It could be slightly inflated due to countries not widely testing until cases started showing up everywhere but its hard to think that it is half of that numbers growth rate Currently the cases double every six days There should be 200000 people infected by 313|1 I think in terms of cases we are still as stage 1 but government response is more consistent with stage 4 ie close schools and universities I wish there would be something more in terms of strict border control measures as well But then the author of rust post says Italy went through all stages within two weeks so we may be jumping to other stages pretty soon|1 Those execs at a public company dont get bonuses for 0 increases in profit YearoverYearIt will be interesting to see whether this changes now that the incomes of so many companies are in free fall One positive long term outcome of this crisis is that demand for equities that simply pay a sustainable profit might rise If that lasts beyond the present crisis perhaps we will see less shortsightedness from Wall StreetA guy can hope |1 Even though it started on the other side of the world This country is so fucking stupid|0 If attention was paid to what would benefit a nation and its people in the long run things would be betterWith trump it would seem too many people are simply focusing on orangemanbad and must defeat orangeman at all costs while neglecting to think critically on how to shape the country Theres a reason we were a super power back then and theres a reason weve been declining for many years again before TrumpPeople are too hung up on short term gratification and heavily neglect long term sustainability This is why you see people pushing to give the government more and more power Freedom being stripped bits by bits The more the gov controls the less freedom you have its really that simple Gov or otherwise power will attract those you would not want in charge of your life|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC293432Great find The relationship for shortterm exposure is clearer than for longterm exposure with fine particulate matter This might indicate that people in Wuhan can recover better with the currently low PM25 values|1 Online teachings purportedly working relatively well in HK SK and mainland China One consideration one parent andor grandparents are regularly home in many East Asian countries compared with some European countries Canada the States etc Proactive at home and by school administrations |1 Thats not a joke Thats all the submitted RNA sequences discovered from around the globe so far Nothing funny about your ignorance in the matter though|0 The Daily Shows cut was great httpstwittercomTheDailyShowstatus1238574916175302656s20|1 I cant think about this anymore My heart hurts seriously What are we going to do I always read a soldier fights for the person to the right or the left of them What happens if we run out of toilet paper and antibiotics I am worried|0 I understand that I just read the article and saw it was a newer than the one I read in the morning Seems like they closed up a bunch of locations in our country Guess I will make homeoffice now|1 you sound miserable work virtue|0 Some of you may die but that is a sacrifice that I am willing to make|0 I did not post any study at all related to Vitamin C intake only links about Zinc and Quercetin but thanks Only stated its a vitamin also in my regimen We give it to cancer patients I stated many oncology clinics do as well We are all doing the best we can to build up our Immune systemsEdit there is not at this time FDA approval for Vitamins C IV infusions to treat cancer patients at this time A grant was given by the National Cancer Institute for 97 million dollars to study the effects of Vitamin C in cancer cells This study will not be done for 3 more years I am not intending to give anyone medical advice just stating that there are clinics that are giving patients Vitamin C IV therapy Always take the advice of your Oncologist and not off a Reddit post but I am pretty sure that goes without saying I hope and this is a means to another topic that you may want to discuss with your clinician|1 At about 850 did he really say the government has isolated itself Or did he mean some local politicians|0 Well this is a take|1 Do you see troops and medical personnel on the streetNoDo you know anyone who was personally infectedNoAre any restaurants or eateries still open or is it just supermarketsSome of the restaurants planned to open during the CNY In this new situation they shifted their focus to provide food supply to hospital fighters Even if theyre open theyre contributing all their resources towards medical professionals|0 I used to have respect for the CDC Its ridiculous that the Trump Administration is allowed to prevent testing just to make numbers look good in the USA Literally criminal inaction|0 I see a lot of Darwin Award contestants murderers in that crowdFTFY Theyll be fine but high risk people wont|0 If officers were responding it sounds like this person was not in a medical setting No reason to think they were wearing PPE|1 All these companies have places in countries that arent hit Not to mention places like McDonalds can stand to be shut down a month This isnt just about workers but the population as a whole Is it really worth gambling your health over a burger|1 You can try to order masks from online platforms if available If not you can attempt to wear a cloth mask It may not be as effective as a surgical mask but it still will confer some protectionProtect yourself from coronavirus with a face maskhttpspraveenpuvacomusingafacemaskcouldsaveyourlifeHope this helps Take care|1 WHO calling it a pandemic has me convinced me this is the real deal|1 What kind of vote Like Japan|1 Well if we are talking impossible scenarios the best case scenario is it mutates to be a positive virus that makes us smarter and stronger like in that Futurama episode|1 Yeah the lack of imagination of the herd is pretty mind blowing to witness You have to see it repeatedly to believe it So many people just arent wont or cant use their imagination for anything let alone a potential life and death society altering event|0 Im sorry you are in pain I get crippled as soon as I stop mine At 37 its very depressing when Im not able to hold a cup of tea Or wash my face So I know I need them to be able to be basic things Things I need to be alive like eat I live on my own so its crucial I can move|0 Fighting Corona one fap at a time|0 Even if they declare martial law or a required quarantine us who work in grocery stores will be declared essential to society and well still be going to work I hate this whole situation my store is a desolate wasteland and there are still hundreds of people picking through the little we have every day I cant afford to get exposed to this virus and bring it home my wife is immunocompromised and if she catches it theres a very real nonzero chance she wont make it Im stressed out at work I stress to shower as soon as I get home This is absolute insanity I want to just call in every day but I cant|0 I think the schools and universitys should already be shut This is going to cost a lot of lives and for what A few extra days of shitty education|0 My estimate is that weve got another 68 weeks of the same old message until they reverse course say that everyone needs to cover their face in some fashion and that theyve been saying that the entire time conveniently backtracking I think it depends on how dire the situation gets and how high the federal stockpile can get with 3M ramming lines of mask production into turbo gear|0 Theyll get bailed out if it comes to that Too politically damaging to let that particular Western business fail|0 Yes This is my big hope Personally I have always been obsessed with buying things and consuming things and this is making me think again massively Stopping this cycle of work consume work consume and the national obsession with gdp growth and house price appreciation would be the only upside from this miserable disease Might help us do a better job of halting climate change too|1 While I dont want to downplay their response Im not sure a movie is the best source for this kind of judgement|1 Its totally understandable to be overwhelmed in this situation youre far from your family and coping with someone physically close to you being infected On the plus side it seems that younger people are getting this virus less often than older folks and thats the less dangerous for you than for older people Its okay that youre worried and there are some things you could do that might help you feel more in control and get some additional supportYou didnt say if youre abroad for an exchange year or just attending uni abroad but if youre doing an exchange program I encourage you to get in touch with your home university ASAP Either your faculty advisor at home or the department that organizes international exchange etc They may have additional support advice and resources for students abroad who are being impacted by COVID19 Even if youre not doing a student exchange read the website for the CDC or similar government agency of your home country there may be resources or advice available for citizens abroad who have been impacted by this virusNext I encourage you to learn more about how the local medical system works You might be able to do this by contacting your campus health center your advisortutor if you have one or the student resource center You might also ask a friend or a professor you get along well with Knowing that information that might be useful to you or a friend someday regardless of COVID19 For me having info so I know ok if thing X happens then I go to place Y and do thing Z is comforting I dont want thing X to happen but having a plan helps keep me calmI know this is scary and your situation is more complex than a lot of other peoples right now Keep following the instructions from the university wash your hands frequently and reach out for help either online or in person and youll get through this|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Making this out to be the fault of young people when the federal government cant even get off its ass is a symptom of boomeritis|0 Stay strong friend Were all in this same exact shit together|1 Phoebe Buffet voice oh no|0 nothing it will happen but the point is to give the healthcare system a fighting chance to take care of those who do fall sick we only have limited capacity and once we go over more people die its about keeping down simultaneous cases not just total cases|0 Right Sorry I was thinking home as in not the hospital|0 I agree party members doctor or not should be the 1st ones to help on the front line the biggest sacrifice requires the strongest will|1 I will forever thank my husband for talking me into buying a crate of N95s 7 months ago I thought it was a dumb purchase then lol|1 No its mostly the stupidity|0 Why would the shipping company care if you get masks|1 Of course not why would the 1 polluter do something responsible for the rest of the world|0 I work at a casino with 4500 employees and thousands of daily guests that are among the most vulnerable to COVID They definitely have more than enough tens of millions to close up shop for two weeks The only thing theyve said on the matter not officially either just in response to a concerned comment on Facebook was that were mopping better and using better cleaners on the machines|1 People need money to keep their living quarters and to buy food to eat Although at least they could cover their damn mouths|0 Mandatory paid sick leave is not an option if youre a company of 1 Its also not practical if you are an underfunded company I think that a negative income tax would be a much better solution than mandatory paid sick leavePet peeve stop thinking everybody has a traditional job Many of the things we call benefits should be provided as a social benefit of our civilization and applied to all of us equally|0 Once the healthcare system gets overloaded people start dying rapidly People that would survive under normal treatment no longer can get it|0 Gotta protect dem valuable plyers|1 Yeah verification would help give this letter more weight as wellI know the mods have privately verified other personal accounts out of Italy so hopefully they get to this one too|1 Nah I remember the swine flu outbreak of the late 00s was always associated with Mexicans despite the fact that like a fifth of the entire world caught it|0 In context to many questions about super spreaders there are various indications that the possible informational response from government agencies and international healthcare bodies regarding CoVid19 is lacking actionable advise to the general public and also healthcare professionals In order to avoid further spread of CoVid19 without escalating drastic containment measures the general public should be better informed in order to increase awareness of issues that help to spread the pathogen as well as to educate the public about simple actions to prevent infectionThe objective of such actionable advise would be the inhibition of super spreaders and active prevention of potential infection by adapting behavioral and social actions in everyones daily life If we are to prevent further spread of CoVid19 the public in various nations should be educated respectively throughout the next weeks or as soon as possiblex200BBased on multiple variations of super spreader definitions the following assumptions are to be madeSuperspreaders could be defined by the following characteristics not exclusively weak immune system or body metabolism which supports fast growth or facilitates larger than normal distributionexpression of the pathogen large number of exhaled oral saliva droplets through conversation very talkative or loud individuals or other tendency to exhale such droplets in larger numbers certain individuals have above normal exhalation of droplets STUDY LINKhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2843952 frequent coughing or sneezing ie facilitated by respective health medconditions allergies air humidity etc bad handnosemouth hygiene frequently using hand to touchscratchrub nose and mouth sneezing directly into air or into handsnot washing hands frequently consecutively touching other people or objects that other people interact with tendency to frequently touch surfaces or objects that are exposed to the physical interaction of many other individuals strong socially facilitated behaviors such as shaking hands often hugging cheek kissing or other forms of physical contact intercourse as well as talking in very close proximity to other faces large number of visits to various densely populated or highly frequented locations incl those that partially requireforce visitors to take off their masks such as in restaurants or certain religious places professionrelated exposure to many individuals such as courier waitress salesreps or cashiers which frequently engage in close contact with customers and their money cultural traditions or behaviors such as sharing food from the same plate eating food with hands or putting foods on insufficiently cleaned surfaces also food presented on open counters in marketsstores people that cannot afford good healthcare or preventive medical goods such as masks or disinfectants individuals who refrain of wearing masks or often take their masks off in public spaces mentally disabled or physically disabled individuals that lack the ability to improve their hygiene or that are unable to adapt socialbehavioral actions which facilitate spread of the pathogen to be continuedConsidering the above characteristics that potentially facilitate a larger than normal spread of the pathogen it would be quite straight forward to create scenario location and professionbased protocols that enable the general public to take better personal preventive measures|1 Does it seem likely that Russia and India have no more cases Or under reportingnot reporting|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Goldman do know and do have solid intelThey just have a very long history making money for Goldman and NOT their clients by holding onto that kind of information and keeping it internalWhat they dont want is people to flee their management fees and drop their total asset management valuesMeanwhile Goldman will have shorted everything 6 weeks ago when more than a few of us on here were calling an economic crash in the basis of supply chain collapse|0 Looking forward to seeing funny memes I figure theyll show up here sooner or later|1 Lol you guys said that a month ago Based on 90 of you we should have like 100 million infected by this point We dont|1 in south france there is no mask in shops too but professionals like emergencies and ambulances have some simple masks in stock they give to the people they transport and that could be infected|0 My whole point initially was just lets stick to coronavirus and leave politics out of it per the board rules You just keep proving my point there is no end when it comes to arguing politics and I want no part of that insanity|0 I am hearing that the Coronavirus might be spreading throughout a nursing home in Washington State nothing confirmed just praying that it is just some ordinary cold virus or something|0 Im enough of an asshole to tell him Ive got a fever and cough and I just came back from China Want what I have|1 Well said Good point|1 Never happier that I work from home Telecommuting is going to take off|0 WAKE ME UP from this nightmare Ugh|0 Yes Very much Thank you so so much |1 The more we learn the further behind the media is It took a week for the UK media to report the new social distancing advice of 2 metersWere playing catch up every day Thankfully Reddit is at the curve of new info as we share globally Tell your friends and family what you learn check other sources to back it up|1 Yep this is why the stock market keeps getting fucked harder and harder every day as we get closer to next week|0 Canadas response has been one of the best out of NAEU but I still think we could learn something from the East Asian countries that have been handling it better than we are The good thing is that we have more time to figure that out though that time is measured in merely days so still got to be speedy|1 I hope hes freed and will be okay|1 Everyone assumes they will be in the 80 I wanted to keep my kids home from school when it first broke My daughter has friends at school who travelled to China during school holidays and were on home quarantine My daughter discussed it with her science teacher who said it was Chinas problem not Australias I have cancelled my planned trip to Italy in April Not because I think I will die if I catch it I just dont want to spend all that money to lie in a hospital bed I can do that at home|0 I keep telling my friend this and he keeps telling me if we had everyone would have panicked and things take time Instead we have people dying now|1 People with the virus will still get into the country despite the tests then because of some percentage of false negative outcomes for example|0 Depends If the virus is transmitted via aerosol no general mask will help you Theres case studies that show someone got infected being 5 metres away after they did contract tracing and looked at the bus cameras of the people on the same busAlso depends on if people cough into handstissuesSo masks might some impact but depends how you use them|0 My work doesnt offer sick days At all If I miss work for any reason short of hospitalization Ill loose my job and Ive been living paycheck to paycheck so my savings is virtually zero So many Americans are in similar situations if they think they might be infected they wont be able to do much without risking their livelihood Dont blame them blame heartless employers with no respect workers rights and a government which does too little to enforce those rights|0 Now imagine that they pull them of life support because those younger needing the equipment to survive and were getting close to reality|1 Poland did the same after 30 infected were confirmed not bad timing but Ukraine is even beating that love to see theyre learning from other countries mistakes|0 Im 24 and never knew finna meant fixing to always thought it was just a slang way of saying about to or finally gonna lol|1 aint it hard to push with a toothpick like there is a slight chance that the toothpick skids away and u touch say 2 or more buttons then what |1 Oh my job only gives 12 days paid sick leave then you need a Dr cert 2 months is a lot mustve been down with something bad But if someone did have a sickness or broken leg or something wed cover them if theyre a full time employee|0 Never fear America has the Orange incompetent at the wheel|0 Or that random westerners living in bumfuck nowhere have taken the bait and are scared out of their minds about a virus they wont contract and blaming everyone else Smoke some bud and calm the fuck down Once deaths reach over 50K 100K we have a serious problem and its time to be scared|0 Thanks for telling me my efforts are appreciated|1 Id just bail off the ship and get quarantined on shore lmao|1 Great opposing reports Lets see am I to believe report in a Bloomberg article or one in STATnewsAm thinking STATnews is the one to believeAm going to post the article you linked but you deserve the credit Please post it as well and go through with posting youll receive an already posted message Ill then delete my post|1 Me and my family lived in Germany during the swine flu My dad tested positive in France and my 3 yo sister started to feel sick too My mom took her to the hospital explained the situation but no took her serious They made her wait for at least 3 hours in a packed waiting room and only tested my sister because my mom wouldnt leave until they did Came back positive 1 12 WEEKS later and they were like whooopsie you were right we gotta put your daughter in isolation I also got sick around the same time went to the doctor and he told me Im just overreacting that its probably nothing and refused to test me So I went back to boarding school which had to close two weeks later because everyone had the swine flu HAHASo I am not surprised to say the leastAlso they made you stay a whole night and couldnt just test for it|0 Yep Both subs have the same 20 or so mods|1 Never questioned the n95 mask|1 And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death He had come like a thief in the night And one by one dropped the revellers in the bloodbedewed halls of their revel and died each in the despairing posture of his fall And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay And the flames of the tripods expired And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over allEdgar Allen PoeMask of the Red Death|0 Good point computer science its easier because we made it like this|1 The Mods should not be listing CNBCcom as a Credible News SourceIn the future people will want to live their lives and will return to fill the streets A good example of this is what happened in Caracas Venezuela over the last 6 months the world has to get through the worst of the storm but it wont be the endhttpswww365newscom202002venezuelassocialistsembracebusinessmakingpartnerofaparasite|0 Im not high yet and you are correct well stated|1 The main reason would be that one party is actually in charge of the executive branch and national level response inclusive of the gag order OP posted aboutCalifornia and Washington had to kick in at the state level when they realized the CDC Washington would not do anything Not sure if those states have the authority to reduce flights and cruise shipsEdit even in this subreddit you can read examples of how this national level response is being manipulated for political reasonshttpstwittercomgeoffrbennettstatus1237784583694884864s2Edit2 even more proof the Republicans dont care httpswwwindependentcouknewsworldamericasuspoliticscoronaviruspaidsickleaveusrepublicansblocksenatebillnewyorkwashingtona9395821html|0 Absolutely agree But this paper was specifically based on a dataset of severe cases from China so I was just responding to the OP that this wasnt anything surprising Im not saying its representative of the population|0 That actually makes me feel sick Im just hoping thats a bottle of whisky in her trolley|0 This happens all the time with plenty of things Friend of mine got in a motorcycle accident was discharged from hospital after a few months but his nose was basically sideways He developed sleeping issues due go difficulty breathing Doctors wanted to perform surgery on his nose to fix it and insurance considered it cosmetic and refused to cover it|0 So glad he pulled through Sound like excellent treatment by the medical teams|1 6 days Thats itThats all it takes to get rid of the virus in a mild stage and with proper medical treatment If anyone could tell me how much time it takes to get cured in a mild stage please let me know|1 I feel safe being in NZ right now|1 This was all over the world before China told anyone about Stopping flights can slow the spread globally though so it is never too late The question is if it is economically worth it to slow it some|1 Coronavirus Im coming to fuck the spring breakers Lalala|0 Gross|0 Theres been one in Tetbury someone who works at a primary school Returned from Italy over a week ago sought medical advice was told if displaying no symptoms then fine to go to work Advice changed on the Tuesday so they began self isolation and then began showing symptoms and tested positive|1 No they dont have day by day tablebut they report hubei and mainland china directly and afterwards they put a chart of confirmed cases etc as listed in my commentedit or maybe they do let me check their website|0 Ive seen this reported in several places At this point I think we still need more science to determine the true long term effects That is why we should take this seriously|1 They called me a doomer 4 weeks ago but even then I did not envision it to be this bad|0 Is it possible that its just hard to properly diagnose initiallyThe odds of each infected person directly infecting over 300 people each in just nine days is probably less likely than initial diagnoses extending to simple fluWould I be mistaken in this analysis|0 I doubt very few people have seen their world change more than that man|0 Nobodys willing to protest it for some reason We need to call in the French to teach us|0 My wife is feeling pretty terrible She still is having moderate chest pains and shortness of breath Thats whats frustrating meIm doing alright but coughing very consistently|0 I love thisUnfortunately humans are plagued by greed|1 A great way to get infected too So much for social distancing if you are all going to stand in a queue for a long time|1 I have read the same things you have about cases of reinfection However it is most likely that those represent test failures These tests arent 100 perfect and human error can contribute to false negatives or positivesMost doctors and scientists seem to believe thats what is going on with those cases and its a small number but they are keeping an eye out|0 Coughing yourself to death has to be up there with worst ways to go|0 Its not propelled by the hatred of Trump Trump is just the figurehead of the GOP policies we have been fighting against for 20 years Its the entire perspective that healthcare isnt a human right and should remain in the private sector and the constant denialism of scienceTrump just happens to be the sitting GOP president at a time when SHTF like weve been warning for years would happen|0 Its almost like the Great Wall of China completely useless stopping foreign invaders|1 Its all about trump Not your health and well being Just what effects him Elect a narsicist and this is what you get|1 From what I gather people see the older sars vaccine result as relevant because there are early reports that reinfection is possible with covid19 One theory is that antibodies cause ADE like in dengue fever|1 Youre dead because you didnt look yet found|0 In Ontario you wont get enough to cover your rent But youll be eating like a king at the homeless shelter|1 Yes So to survive You have to be more darwin than darwin himself |1 Lets make Bernie President Things will get a lot more ethical and rational Reason and ethics want to make a comeback so the most people can survive this plague and the climate catastrophes ahead oh us|1 Nooo You are a good spouse looking our for her Please dont go|1 Either the racist definition changed overtime and I am not updated or hes just triggered AF as alwaysAmerican liberals HAVE redefined racism Literally only white people have the agency to be racist in their warped new world Its honestly kinda sad how racist theyve become all while twisting themselves into knots attempting not to be racist|0 Step 1 call work Step 2 say I have a fever step 3 enjoy your home|1 uBean9661 unfortunately smoking does seem to be a risk factor for developing severe disease Please be safe and watch your symptoms carefully If you are having shortness of breath please see a doctor|1 Why do you believe the 2 number reported by the Chinese These are the same people who decided to construct an emergency hospital with 1000 beds at the same time reporting 6 deaths which makes no sense Also their numbers are following a quadratic increase almost perfectly every day which almost guarantees they are fudged because diseases spread exponentially not quadratically|1 Who said theres a problem As it says its a bot it just shows crossposts |0 Yesterday dozens of Fortune 500 companies told their employees to start working from home until April at the very least My daughters school is talking about closing for a while Your manager must not be paying attention like at all|1 Yeah it looks like even people from here are believing it as well Its like all the shops are closing concerts being cancelled and elderly being advised to selfisolate but no the UK arent trying to contain it They think herd immunity will solve it|1 Considering how many people still watch and believe him Id dispute the disgraced handle Hes still a con man and there are a lot of folks that believe him|0 At this point I would rather he be golfing When hes around professionals are wasting time trying to educate a toddler Let the grown ups handle this|0 edibles ive made in the past make me feel real weird and shitty like i can never predict how im gonna react to edibles sometimes im chill and good sometimes im like a zombiemight get some gummys from my onion farmer and see how it goes|1 Wear a mask and wash your hands frequently and learn proper techniques for doing both things eg how to properly remove the mask after the fact and get insurance youll be ok|1 Whilst this is true it should be noted how Iran is geographically set up it is a massive plateau with a few city hotspots where the vast majority of the population live with villages and towns dotting the singular highways that connect the major population centers This can be seen with this population density map from 2004httpsuploadwikimediaorgwikipediacommons331Iranpopulationdensity2004jpg As such that is why seeing cases in Qom and suspected cases in most major cities is concerning once the virus gets into the population hotspots it will remain entrenched there for a long period of time|1 Not to mention all tobacco contains polonium210 radioactive and harmful if inhaled or swallowedFrom cdcgovhttpscdcgov httpswwwcdcgovncehradiationpolonium210htmhttpswwwcdcgovncehradiationpolonium210htmPo210 is naturally present in soil at very low concentrations which are not harmful to humans or animals It can be emitted into the atmosphere since it is a product of the decay of radon gas or during the production of phosphorus but is generally also in very small quantities Although uptake by plants is usually small Po210 can be deposited on broadleaved plants and can be concentrated if those plants are consumed or particularly smoked such as tobacco If the exposure is significant but not extremely high and if it occurs over a period of time there is a longterm risk of cancer Exposure through inhaling Po210 such as in cigarette smoking can increase risk of lung cancer|0 MetroATL my local Kroger was out of hand sanitizer and lysol wipes but everything else seemed fully stocked have seen only 1 person with a mask on in the last 5 days most people seem to be going on as usual with the exception of Fulton county schools closing not much general panic or concern|1 me too likely because I have a lot of free time right now also I feel like the 214 day incubation period means this is going to eventually be everywhere and I know the US would be unprepared for a serious outbreak Almost certainly Im overreacting but I like being prepared and informed As another example of how Im overthinking this Im flying domestically soon and am leaning towards wearing a mask that day and also wiping down the airline seat Not really sure if either of those is necessary probably not|1 Ah I see what youre saying That is interesting but not necessarily statistically surprising Almost all tests with have a certain range of false positives and false negatives Although if it was two negatives and then a positive that is a bit more concerning It leaves some questions And then I know if that happens outside of China it is doubtful there would be a secondthird test|1 sure seems like rich folks are getting preferential treatment for their tests|1 Clearly not been reading this sub or indeed Reddit at all since January|1 How can your comment be at all correct if the numbers we are getting are all over the placeAre these numbers saying the growth factor is slowing down based off of Chinese government numbers Speculative numbersIm basically asking prove youre not a Chinese propaganda bot|1 Both my kids schools basically shut down over spring break No food in the cafeteria etc So those kids all hit the road My 19 year old is traveling to 3 cities hitting both coasts I think its insanity She thinks since they already have it at her college her odds are actually better getting away and shes afraid to come home lest she gives it to us or at least thats her story but really she just thinks shes young and invincible|1 Companies that step up and save AmericanEuro lives rn Will be rewarded by our public for along to come|1 We already are making efforts and they will ramp up Even without going total lockdown wont banning large gatherings and encouraging people to distance likely flatten the curve a lot|1 Whens the last time this large of a travel warning was implemented on this wide of a scale|0 Sure At that rate it takes almost two years to burn all the bodies Like I said theyd be rotting in the streets It would take a lot of manpower to get them all picked up Definitely noticeable by satellite and footage would get outWould be straight up captain trips type stuff|1 Have you seen how obese Japanese are Compare them to starving AmericansJapanese people work 14 hours at the office yeah but they dont eat McDonalds 57 times a week monster energy American cheese|1 Were talking about something very real and deadly here theres no need to bring up stupid religious logic to it|0 This is friggin terrible That shit must be all over Iraq|0 Not bad The cult has almost finished being tested Small clusters show up every now and then and we get alerts about them on our phones I think these alerts are quite effective because every time we learn that someone was confirmed positive nearby we get reminded to take precautionsSome things that also helped are that there are hand sanitizer dispensers everywhere like buses elevators restaurants Almost everyone wears masks The government recommended wearing masks even cotton ones if you dont have medical ones Also people use credit cards even if taxis so no cash goes from hand to hand One thing I find interesting in other countries is hoarding toilet paper and food That sure is not happening here|1 Dont borrow to stay afloat You should prepare your self to not be working likely because no one is coming I to the store anywaysSpeak to your family and see if they can help you Talk to your landlord once it happens they will understand hopefully|1 Theres absolutely zero chance we could transform our countries warehouses and factories in to gun bomb and plane building machines quicklyYou say that as if the US military industry wasnt already a gigantic redundant blob|0 Signed and shared Please share|1 Fake post|0 If this spreads as many fear then in a few weeks there will be so many really ill people and deaths that practically everyone will know of someone that has go it and when shit gets close to home people will pay attention to advice the problem being it could be too late to slow down infection rates by then Ps even if Coronavirus didnt exist it is still really gross to sit in a public cafe sniffing coughing and spluttering all over the place|0 They banned Pivet Not bats Bat was not illegal in the market Google what countries eat bats Bats are consumed in various amounts in some regions within some African Asian and Pacific Rim countries and cultures including Vietnam Seychelles Indonesia Palau Thailand China and Guam Guam is a territory of the US the people are US citizens Eating bat is not illegal there People spit in the UK Its probably because smoking is so common and smoking tastes like shit So people spit when they do it Its been seen as a necessity really an unpleasant one Just as it is in China The social credit system was not about spitting It was about control Thats a reflection on the government not the people The Chinese culture has some bad habits It has some unhygienic ones Those things are improving with time Other countries have or have had bad habits too Trying to say that Chinese people are unhygienic because of this incident is just being shitty Racism has real effects it is not just something to use or pick apart on things like Reddit posts It ruins lives|0 The virus has R0 of 4766 And that seems to be an underestimate since it suggests a doubling time of 56 days which is double what were seeing Double digit R0 seems likely|0 I thought so too but today he seemed pretty normal to be honest|1 Its ok maybe next time I can come|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Hard for republicans to win an election with potentially millions of boomers dying|1 Absolutely agree with you|1 Oh ok I see Well in the US where I live its 11 confirmed cases but we are told that its contained and wont spread so I havent seen or heard of a run on any supplies fortunately Im not sure how big Hong Kong is though 20 cases in one city I would be worried especially since the virus has a relatively long incubation period Best of luck to you|1 Werent they cutting internet access like last week Good thing they got their heads out of their asses|1 The panicky types seemed to think that COVID19 causes the water supply to stop working They mostly buy water bottles from Costco|0 This thread is about celebrities getting tested using the only tests available not why the fuck are there only a handful of tests available|1 Im not making you respondI do virus research for a living I understand very well whats at stake here Disinformation and irrationality can be much more dangerous than the outbreak 3 people even 100 people in a country of 1 billion is not a cause for panicFor instance in the US a country of almost 400 million there are currently 14 people who are infected Because of this businesses in Chinatowns across the country are getting less foot traffic Chinese restaurants are selling less food and people who so much as look Asian are being harassedSimilar things happened here during the first Ebola outbreak People who needed treatment were prevented from coming to the US where the survival rate was 100 and instead they died in AfricaThe decision the Dalai Lama made was not rational and the BS your making up right now is dangerous and could hurt people|0 Just ran across this maybe a glimmer of good news Studyhttpswwwmountsinaiorgaboutnewsroom2020mountsinaiphysiciansthefirstinusanalyzinglungdiseaseincoronaviruspatientsfromchinapressreleaseGood news in terms of being able to identify CoV|1 Ive never been the same since getting it at 15 Always very tired even 7 years later|0 I would be shocked if they dont announce a closing today Too many other places have done itAlsowhats up with the governor In most states the governor has canceled school for the whole state|0 There are plenty of people presenting with coughs along the spectrum It is definitely not a dry cough over one with mucous or vice versa|1 This definitely sounds like worst case scenarios Even Lueng casts some doubt on his own numbersEpidemiologists and modellers were trying to figure out what was likely to happen said Leung Is 6080 of the worlds population going to get infected Maybe not Maybe this will come in waves Maybe the virus is going to attenuate its lethality because it certainly doesnt help it if it kills everybody in its path because it will get killed as well he saidUnchecked is definitely a big word here and its unfortunate that the articleits interviewees dont specify what that means Theres a huge difference in unchecked referring to the world isnt doing enough to contain and mitigate and the world carries on like normal no public information campaigns are carried out public transit and flights operate as normal 60 definitely seems on the higher side of things right now though and assumes a lot That being said I really appreciate you providing the sources|0 Im worried about the exact same thing Except they arent taking it seriously seriouslyOne is convinced its the Democrats trying to attack Trump while the other thinks its just the flu|0 Thank you for posting something useful vs the Reddit conspiracy machine|1 Just got the email today that they are cutting hours drastically at my restaurant and most likely closing down Back of the house cooks are down to 1 shift per week Craziness|0 Im in my early 20s and would without hesitation rather have my mother or father treated instead of meThe heartbreaking part of the problem is that its not an even swapWhat if you were expected to recover fine with treatment but your parent was expected to be permanently disabledWhat if its your mother or your father versus yourself and two siblingsIm glad Im not the one making these decisions either|1 Work on checkouts Had several people argue with me about restrictions and our shelves being empty One person tried threatening me with my job He was going to write a strongly worded letter to the store manager Shame about the waste of ink because all i was doing was informing him of the product limits per person and that he couldnt have that 3rd andrex 18 pack |0 I dont know why people lump everyone together like thisChristian groups in the US|1 I truly feel sad for anyone who only has 4 yachts Talk about poverty They are in a truly difficult and oppressed situation s|0 and also i dont really trust the media so i prefer to get the info from WHO with i guess have more knowledge on this topic than internet article writers|0 Very true Legends Never Die|1 No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teacher leave those infected kids alone|0 Also when you have kids you have to take you own sick days to take care of them In the past 4 months my 2 kids have had strep throat stomach flu regular flu and 2 really bad colds 1 of which resulted in a 5 day hospital stay Ive been sick with all of the same things I could easily use 10 sick days a year just taking care of my own kids so when Im sick I tough it out Luckily I have the option to work from home whenever I want to but not everybody has that|0 Its defines carrots into categories so that stores buying carrots can be assured they will get quality carrots people dont like buying ugly misshaped groceries|1 Trudeau in Canada is still allowing flights from all the hot spots so he can virtue signal that diversity is our strength|1 A symptomatic coworker with a fever and multiple precursor symtoms went to Evergreen today and was tested for flu and strep Both came back negative She was then informed that she probably has the coronavirus and its not that serious They also said that the infection is endemic in the community and was too expensive of a test run to confirm the coronavirus infectionIn my opinion the coronavirus infection statistic reported for the state of Washington cannot be trusted|0 I think the government has completely botched the response to the virus They should have implemented travel restrictions from hot spots at the very least But Im not a concerned Canadian citizen who will be affected by their horrible policies Im a Russian troll trying to destroy Canada with disinformation|0 I dont think most Americans care what any celebrity is doing that is just the fake news shoving that down our throats Like the Oscars that nobody watches but is talked about endlessly before during and after|1 Ok but this was specifically part of a government funded pandemic mitigation plan I also doubt they would be announcing it now if the stuff didnt work|0 Inability to diagnose absolutely The tests are difficult and of dubious accuracy No ability to provide treatment hardly We have no idea what the CFR would be absent medical intervention Likely much higher China is in an extreme triage situation There are likely people not presenting for care but the majority with severe disease likely are because medical intervention even if just supportive is helpfulI certainly doubt their mortality numbers are accurate but theres no way to estimate that inaccuracy Any other conclusion would be pure supposition at this point|0 Someone who really enjoys making money I would assume|1 Yes Seems to be the only inhaleable compound thus far|1 There is also a very well known name in soccer who was tested positive a few hours ago|1 I can speak for over 50 of Americans we are surprised at the crap our country is doing too Please dont associate this crap with majority of us We didnt design the system we dont agree with it and we voted to change it but because the rule makers are also the cheaters we are standing here as well going Wtf|0 Thank you mate That was my thought as well|1 thats a fuck ton|0 What credit should be attributed to our perpetually virtue signalling blackfacewearing freespeech limiting Little Potato of a PM|1 Martial law is the suspension of ordinary law Arent quarantines such as this written into ordinary law as a legal option in cases where governments are trying to curtail the spread of communicable disease It doesnt seem like martial law to me|0 Ive been on it 8 years nothing else helped I hope we can still get it for our current diseases if it becomes protocol Are you afraid that it will become scarce or too expensive|0 I hope someone is not preventing access to tests or limiting tests to appear as though infection rates and loss of life were mitigated by some team using thoughts and prayers|1 Hell Id stay home for half that Even a grand would get me by until the situation changes Maybe take some money from our obscene defense budget|0 No|0 yes thats exactly half this sub|1 If they want to hospitals may release info like spike in pneumonia patients number of deaths lack of beds resources or staff Ambulances running at full capacity will be hard to hide Also hospitals have set up triage and everything if its full well see We can prevent testing but we cant prevent these manifestations from showing up if a lot of people are really infected|0 I gave lots of sanitizer to my pharmacists I figure I dont need it bc Im locked inside for a month and they didnt have any at all So horrible thay the people who need it cant get it|0 Wow he cant breathe|1 I fully expect to see some kind of outbreak within the next two weeks Our entire system isnt meant to handle this people go to work sick wont go to the doctor because they cant afford health care incubation period is up to two weeks and then an extra week to develop symptoms bad enough to seek medical help March might be a crazy ride Unfortunately we have to wait and see|0 The USA deceiving people will have drastic effects sociallyTry enforcing quarantines on armed people who already know theyve been duped and their best interests at heart concerning thisGood luck to security forces Fallujsh deja vu American Boogaloo|1 Looks like goodwill has NO GOOD ethics and morals|1 In NYC seems like nobody goes to dollar store or 99c store I got masks as well as HS right now All the other big stores CVS Duane Reade Rite Aid are out of stock For a moment felt smart|1 Yes we sure forking do |1 exactly my gf thinks Im becoming obsessed and fixated on something so sad and negative while obviously it is sad and negative I think its good to be informed while also not becoming paranoid and outside of that my main argument was that I do find it incredibly fascinating Im glad Im not crazy or at least not the only one for feeling that way|0 It is important that you remember to wash your hands regularly it can have major impact on the spread but it is also important to wash them righthttpswwwwhointgpsccleanhandsprotectionenrcleanhandgang|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Vietnam was also the very first country that successfully contained and stopped the SARS outbreak within local borders in 2003 Though not widely known for their medical advancement history could tell they knew what they were doing and were good at it Lets hope their amazing work continues and bears fruitSourcehttpswwwwhointmediacentrenewsreleases2003prsarsen|1 Or you could be like the US and not test anyone 0 infected 0 deaths related to coronavirus 17273638 deaths for some other cause|1 The answer is actually pretty simple though Its laziness Not all AIs are created out of some desire to create AI They are created to help us process data so that we dont need a human doing it Instead of hiring 1000 people in a Chinese sweatshop to tag pictures we can have an AI do it and save money We went to space to beat the Russians also for ICBM technologyWhy dont we collectively wash our hands or cover our mouths Because were lazy Those actions are literally an inconvenience to oneself so if someone didnt have it drilled into them enough for it to be habit then I can totally see people not doing it because they are lazyThats what ultimately kills humans all IMO collective laziness and inactionNot to be political but look at how Bernies turnout was Dude is literally promising subsidized healthcare in one of the worst pandemics the modern world has seen and still cant turn out the vote|1 Seriously for all these people yelling about nationalizing everything have you ever been to the fucking DMV Oh sorry your flight has been cancelled Let me look around at these pens for 30 minutes then see if I can help you out|0 Yeah I suppose they just roll a dice at every case to decide whether they report that one or not s|1 The one in north bay ontario I asked them because they stuck me in the isolation room about it and they are testing regularly when you appear to have flu like Symptoms So far no positives|0 FUCK YOU IM GETTING MINEwhat will more likely happen|0 People are dying but wont someone think of the poor fans who have to cancel plans s|0 Every film in the country has gone down I was working on another Netflix show and this morning we were told we no longer had jobs The film my partner was on has gone down a huge franchise film Were supposed to be getting married this year and now we have to cancel because were looking at 6 months of unemployment and no help We only graduated in 2016 and this is going to wipe out our entire savings and well be lucky if weve not lost our home by the end of it as I doubt our landlord will suspend our rent off his own back|0 they cud but are people in eu that desperate to come to america that they will resort to such measures to come in to america also at the very least it shud stem the tide coming in to maybe a small wave|0 The proportion of asymptomatic individuals appears to be 161 35218 before 13 February 256 73285 on 15 February 312 111355 on 16 February 399 181454 on 17 February 454 246542 on 18 February 506 314621 on 19 February and 505 320634 on 20 FebruaryThese are not the results they are the reported percentage of asymptomatic cases from which the papers estimate of true asymptomatic cases is derivedThe reported asymptomatic cases consists of both true asymptomatic infections and cases who had not yet developed symptoms at the time of data collection but became symptomatic laterplus the estimated asymptomatic proportion among all infected cases at 179 95CrI 155202I dont really understand how this could be more clear The paper is about predicting cases that became asymptomatic later and then using that to predict an overall asymptomatic proportion for the infected People need to read jfcAre you actually serious Theres absolutely zero chance you read the paper you just skimmed through and looked at the first numbers you saw Now youre being smug and insulting others spreading misinformation by making this totally incorrect comment several times|0 Ive legit said this on Coronavirus before I was banned Hospitals will be like a minefield were the minefields move and outside of being severe critical or dying you should avoid hospitals altogether This keeps you from increasing the chances of you getting the virus and keeps the number of people doctors and nurses have to deal with thus preventing hospitals from being overwhelmedEdit because so many of you keep asking I was banned from Coronavirus because I was too political on one of the their political posts I challenged the mods by saying it was BS and if they didnt want me to be political they shouldnt let political posts on their page thingy Either let all speech or none of it They permanently banned me for doubling down lol I prefer this page because its less political less anticapitalist and less Trump bashing compared to the other one which is all it is now and hard not to confront the idiocy on that page|0 Canada is mostly chillingI like to think we made progress since our PMs wife tested positiveIf a few more politiicians and their families gets it Im sure well all be locked down Wuhan style in no time|1 Yes Everything except grocery stores and pharmacies May or may not exclude gas stations in the exemption|1 Glad to see at least some Italians know how to queue Where Im from everyone waits outside bunched up together utterly pointless|1 We should be closing borders schools public places When you say that people look at you like you have 9 heads though|1 I pity you yanks you are in for one hell of a ride|0 You mean if were able to develop BETTER quantum computers|1 I have so many home projects I would think about maybe getting started on if I was unable to leave my house for 2 weeks|0 Anyone heard of how much hooking up goes on in senior centers Perfect breeding ground by people that can no longer breed lmao|1 So who fucking cares if they abuse it Theyll stay home from work and help slow the spread Thats still a large benefit|1 I totally understand how youre feeling Yesterday morning my exwife accused me of being paranoid and asked if Ive been taking my bipolar meds when I told her she really needs to stock up on supplies It really pissed me off and made me feel like I trust her less I started preparing 3 weeks ago and have been VERY quiet about it because I knew people werent ready to face the situation yet and would be unsupportive I felt really foolish he first time I filled a shopping cart to the brimuntil an older black lady in the produce aisle took a double take at me cart and said Mmmm Im gonna go home with YOU I havent felt foolish about it since I take a lot of comfort in how well Ive prepared that helps when I feel isolated Yesterday after work I went straight to the bank and took out 3000 in twenties AgainI felt a little foolish I was genuinely concerned that it would be a problem to get that many 20s but the guy in line behind me at an appropriate distance thankfully remarked that it was a really good idea to ask for all 20s People are waking up now that schools are closing Hang in here if you need someone to talk to feel free to pm me|1 So why not work to change thatId also argue there is quite an abundance of waste in corporate structures having worked for 5 different corporations based out of 4 different countries|0 Exactly like climate change God I hope a pandemic wakes ppl up about the reality of nature I am worried about the future of humanity|1 If everyone suddenly prepares for weeks without going to the store then the shelves will empty for things that everyone needs The number of people actually hoarding vast amounts of toilet paper is not whats emptying shelves across the country Sorry you had to find another way to clean your butthole this weekend but a momentary lapse in toilet paper availability is going to be the least consequential impact of this virus|1 Greedy cunts|0 Thats why I havent been talking with anyone but close family about it My family is aware and more concerned than I am now lmao I was debating on buying masks at first thinking that even tho a pandemic is possible that the US would not get affected THAT badly But with the recent increase in deaths and cases outside of China Im very concerned now bought a 20 pack of N95 a few days ago Luckily I work at a hardware store and was able to snatch a package in freight before it went on shelfs The packages were stocking on the shelfs literally sell out the day after they are stocked I think a lot more people are preparing than most of us think Just think about it Just a week ago maybe even less was the first death outside of China now there are a total of 11 With that exponential growth its pretty worrying Even if its technically only 10 more we will see what it gets to next week Im betting double or more|1 I guess they decided that their urbanites still need be crushed Pol Pot is smiling in his grave|0 Can someone explain to me why it is so complicated to proof the aerosolroute There is a study that doesnt find sars cov 2 in the air Now they are testing just for the stability Wouldnt it be absolutly important to know if it spreads via the airroute I mean they are doing homequarantines|1 I wonder if I could get vegas odds on you making itId like to bet you do D|1 Definitely was just thinking this|1 Why is Trump shaking hands Why is Trump and Pence exposing themselves to the same risks Why arent Pence and Pelosi in isolation in case the worse happens they 2 and 3 in line of succession All 3 are in high risk categoriesIs everyone in government in denial that they can get sick|0 Be on the look out for pneumonia I was diagnosed with pneumonia 12 days ago after having exactly that fever and a cough Sadly they wouldnt test me then for COVID because I had no travel connection Just got tested by drive through today because I still have symptoms except for fever Anyway your symptoms sound familiar and my pneumonia came on really fast even though my fever rarely went above 1004 Hope you feel better soon|1 Pretty easy litmus test for believability how often he tweets in the next couple days|1 There are over a hundred documented mutations and counting Each one could be considered to belong to its own strain Its technically true but the fundamental issue is that they didnt demonstrate why these particular mutations had some major clinical significance They just gave us the 70 vs 30 bullshit and called it a day|0 Thanks for sharing I been in Homes of Mexican families and they will literally take the food off their plates for a stranger|1 That is almost assuredly the west and US pushing The never quarantine crowd and other interests working together|1 True I think one of the reasons people dont pay attention is that they cant imagine that a 23 degree change can be significant Failure of imagination may be our final undoing|1 I agree with experts|1 Thats a hope That its so virulent that almost everyone has it at nearly undetectable levels but only a few people are dying or even noticing symptoms That scenario is highly optimistic and unlikely|1 Thats not how epidemiology works The Ministry of Health laid out various case definitions here httpwwwhealthgovoncaenproprogramspublichealthcoronavirusdocs2019casedefinitionpdfhttpwwwhealthgovoncaenproprogramspublichealthcoronavirusdocs2019casedefinitionpdfWhat makes you suspect that he has it Fever chills myalgias cough could be one of a number of different viruses I work in healthcare and have tested a few dozen patients myself The majority of viruses I have gotten back include rhinovirus and influenza no COVID19 for me yet|0 Thank you for your kind words it really means so much Its hard right now because the fear is ruling my life I dont want to leave my house I dont want my kids to leave I dont want my husband to go to work I know the stress is not good for the baby or me for that matter but its just so hard It has absolutely taken away the excitement of my life this is my last pregnancy and I cant even enjoy it because Im so constantly overwhelmed Then the guilt takes over and Im just a mess|0 Even in china there have been many videos showing family members sitting with their infected relative in the hospital|0 Have you been following Italy Hospitals are overwhelmed without resources and triaging people If you get triaged youre not receiving modern medicine|1 And remember its summer in where Tom Hanks is in Australia and the virus is still spreading exponentiallyPeople are going to start taking it as seriously as they should when somebody they know and love contracts itUnfortunately lots more of these announcements are comingBe well out there |1 Yep|1 Even the pangolin connection is pretty dodgy at this point from my understanding Theres still a admittedly statistically almost irrelevant chance it had NOTHING to do with the wet market Until patient zero is identified Im not sure well ever know|1 BTW the only reason they went with their own more expensive kit is because of the profits Lots and lots of money here Id be interested in reading more about this Do you have any links you can share that discuss the profiteering aspect Id just assumed the CDC rejected the WHO test kits because they wanted to keep the numbers down so the stock market wouldnt crash too much and Trump wouldnt look so bad But it would not surprise me one bit if there were also grift involved because there always is|0 I mean not really this is part of live Diseases have come and gone throughout human history and this isnt even close to the worst|0 Italy is absolutely doing their best|1 Omg I had the same thoughts the other day Interesting to learn there are other people who feel the same|1 Yeah ration those masks trust me they run out quick|1 Im 99 sure i had coronavirus in January I was in Denver and my coworker had just come back from China It was the worst thing Ive ever had My boyfriends 5 yo brother was in the hospital with pneumonia because of it|0 Come on you cant be that gullible Its only an illusion to those of us in China that the entire apparatus of the state has been mobilised to fight this crisis What the CCP are really focusing on right now is an attempt to pull the wool over the collective eyes of Reddits virus subs|0 A good time to stop Might not do much now but still|1 The masks part is irrelevant tho but I agree on the other points We should all be washing our hands and not touching our face too x200BEdit fuck I just realized I scratched my nose|0 Online like France|1 I agree The only doc in my house has the worst diet|0 Yeah I prefer less moderation If there ever was a time to get a clearer idea of reality without tailoring to someone elses worldview this is the time|1 But how much is that delta We dont know thus his entire thesis on 75000 infected or whatever is just random guessActually the 75000 number comes from this paper from The LancenthttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620302609fulltext|0 thats why hes a narcissitic control freak|0 How do you know theyve been in Japan for a month Most Chinese tour groups to japan run for around a week 57 days fyi Coupled with the fact cny started on the 25th and most companies would end a few days earlier its more likely than not theyve only been in japan for a week so or|1 Sounds good enough to me|1 Theyre testing a whole hospital who has been freshly exposedits very unlikely anyone will show positive bc of something called incubation period|1 Yeah I know Not saying its not weird It just bugs me that everyone seems to be jumping to the conclusion that China is fudging the numbers with such certainty Which absolutely could be the case but there are other possibilitiesId like to see more detailed data though How many tests are being performed per day How many of them are positive on the first second third attempt How many times do they retest negative results|1 Can you tell me do you think stopping flights from china was not a precaution|0 Agreed|1 Make 2 versions of the game a spoofing version with no achievements but people can travel all over from their living room or enjoy the game if they are confined to a bedand the regular version of get out and hunt with achievements|1 you really think kfc workers are that passionate about kfc|1 lol chill my dude|1 Been following it since December having people who share similar views helps so much I think I would have lost my mind if I didnt have people I could count on|1 From the CBC article httpswwwcbccanewscanadaedmontonalbertacasesofcovid19doubleto14medicalofficerreports15492562httpswwwcbccanewscanadaedmontonalbertacasesofcovid19doubleto14medicalofficerreports15492562 The travellers had returned from France the Netherlands Egypt Iran Taiwan Germany Malaysia Trinidad and Tobago the Philippines and the United States Several of the travellers visited more than one country on their trip One was also on the same MS Braemar cruise ship in the Caribbean as a case announced on March 8The more I read about imported cases the more I wonder whether the virus really does give you a sudden urge to explore the world|1 In assuming in the US that the 80 with mild symptoms will just go to work as normal as they need the paycheck and cant afford to lose a job and healthcare Thus infecting a higher percentage of people|1 Saying it is not effective is just irresponsible just admit that we have a shortage on it and save them for our nurse and doctorsCause If everyone wear Mask ASTM LV1 it will slow down the spread but nowadays it is impossible to get any from shopper or anywhere since End of January except N95 which is a overkill for used on daily basis|0 Did you not read the article or bother googling Only way to possibly be given permission to enter Micronesia is that you must be quarantine for a minimum of 14 days in a non infected nation and then undergo a medical exam List 1 other country going to that extreme Micronesia has a smart government that saw the danger early on and took action|0 Call it something way less fun sounding|1 This what the US government needs to realize Closing schools for 2 weeks isnt gonna do shit once people are back|1 If the mortality rate is 30 instead of 3 people might start looting At some point it assume it will level out Once the government is forced to address it accordingly But I just wonder what the first numbers will look like and what kind of effect that will have|0 Thank you Your right Ive embarrassingly messed up what I read I went back and double le checked Original post deleted I appreciate the info|1 That sucks Stay safe|1 If PLA medics are in Wuhan and doctors from all over the country have moved there with one new hospital opened just to treat patients of the nCoV and a second major hospital opening soon I really dont see there being a bottleneck in terms of medical staff New test kits have also been developed which are faster and can diagnose a patient in 15 minutesDoctors from other countries are also moving to Wuhan but probably not in very large numbers I do recall Russia offering aid to China to combat the coronavirus though|0 The 06 CFR is so far closely tracking the 07 lateChinese fatality rate disclosed by the WHO so Im not sure why it wouldnt make sense|0 And this is why we need to bring back unions Because who the hell else is going to give a rats ass about the working people|0 No permanent residene in antarctica You still need supplies and go back to mainland|0 Chinese brigade in full force i see Who would have though that the country this shitstorm happens in reacts fastest Really This is your argument Rest of the world kinda hoped china got this but no they failed containment completely And not only that for the first critical few weeks their only response was locking up any whistleblowers calling out whats happeningAlso i agree with you that americans are setup to go through even worse nightmare than china They are about to learn the hard way that elections matters Lots of other european countries also undeniably underestimating the situation Still dont see any journalists being locked up or people threatened for facebook posts Western countries may be negligent but not actively counter productive|0 Same here He is so passionate and wants to tell only the truth Everyday Im checking my YouTube for his new video Today he said that he expects to get it crazy|1 Twitter is generally an unreliable source If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text Thank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 TNChattanooga here Theres one guy in my city that has the virus and hes a priest They retraced all his steps back to a convention in Kentucky The thing is a few days after he started showing symptoms he still went to a mass and did communion Theres 5 32 people so far in my state to have the virus so not too bad but my city and the state declared states of emergency before the entire country so I hope our actions are enough to flatten the curve|1 Today it is recommended that every single person on Plaquenil get a visual field 102 test plus one of the three other highly sensitive screening tests the FAF fundus autofluorescence imaging the SDOCT spectral domain optical coherence or the multifocal electroretinogram mfERG Sourcehttpswwwlupusorgresourcesprotectingyoureyesightwhentakingplaquenil|1 as long as you dont touch your face after touching your clothes it will not infect you breathing it in is the biggest threatsomething many people forget however is their anus its also a hole that can get infected|0 The things you listed are reasonable though The extreme preppers Ive seen tend to prepare for one usually absurd apocalyptic event Like a polar magnetic shift or the Yellowstone volcano or a rapture or a world ending earthquake in Florida The thing about prepping though is that it is not fundamentally irrational Natural disasters and plagues will happen and it is advisable that everyone prepare to some degree Thats what makes it so hard where is the line drawn that separates obsessive paranoid delusions from rational disaster preparation No matter what you feel about this specific pandemic one thing we can all agree on is that people in the modern world are very susceptible to sensationalized media Novel pandemics feed right into these fears One day the big one is going to tear through humanity its inevitable Sifting through all the conflicting reports to discern the truth is captivating|0 There is nothing wrong with this Only the sick really need to wear masks to prevent others from getting sick Wearing one if youre healthy doesnt do much However washing your hands and not touching your face helps|1 Nerves lmfaoSame Ive been coughing hysterically ever since I realized that our government is among the worst in the world|0 People with kuru usually died with massive and horrid symptoms But they ate the diseased It was figured out because the groups that got the brain were much more affectedIn Ebola too a huge number of infections occurred due to African funeral rites that involved very close contact with the deadAnd yes often it is adapted to the original host Bats deal fine with lots of stuff that humans dont Bats also deal fine with body temperatures that would kill a human A virus that first spreads in public undetected due to mild symptoms spread via air and fomites then requires home care infecting family and neighbors via sneezing coughing direct contact contaminated doors and buttons and diarrhoea aerosol in the ventilation system then requires hospital care infecting weak patients and health care workers would actually spread extremely well Keep in mind how many of the initial cases in Wuhan actually caught it in hospital and those corpses lying around in hospital corridors next to the healthy relatives of patients It kills few and very slowly with initial symptoms just like common diseases and quite long and varied infectious incubation timeThis virus strategy is the result of an accident and trial and error mutations but highly effective|1 Also an option Lol A bit of a drastic move it was for the virus If it was simply cuz you want it then that makes sense|1 Its sort of like telling someone to cover up when they sneeze and then they respond with I am not sick I just sneezed|1 We use that word here too Remember when Adrian Peterson got in trouble for using a switch on his son|0 Also these are people the government flew back to the uk specifically on the agreement that they would enter quarantine when they arrived|1 If his base is old and listens to him than his base will DIE OFF I think its hubris and stupidity because this thing kills old people who downplay the risk which is demographically a lot of Trumps base|0 I know something that might make this not a conspiracyIn the US they do tests for coronavirus at local labs and if they come back positive a sample is then sent to the CDC to verify and only if the CDC verifies it is the patient considered to have coronavirusAs you can imagine there is significant lag before the CDC verifiesSomething similar could be happening in the UK|1 I wouldnt assume that the OP didnt exactly say so but its possible the baby could have a preexisting condition that would make them more vulnerable|0 Not sure why you were downvoted|0 Virtue signaling is gonna be the end of western world look at what happened in Europe in 2015 and look whats going on now Im all for being tolerant towards other people as long as theyre peaceful but at some point like Jihadists and radicals and people likely infected with a new virus there has to be a line drawn|1 Youre spoiling the end of the world circle jerk in this sub|0 Of course we look toward our leadership for guidance in times of crisis They have let us down|0 There was one guy around my primary care center today He was asked to self isolate but he was here in the first day of the vaccination campaign because his mother needed to be vaccinatedThere were at least 300 people in line with himAsshole|1 If they close and its a nothing burger seems like mission accomplished to me especially looking over at other examples out there|1 Whether you have it or not you must act like you already have it regardless Act now|1 I agree but this isnt a 1000 dollar emergency This is a 6 month to 2 year emergency 1000 is nothing|1 Plus Wall Street hedge funds crashing will inevitably get bailed out by our corrupt politicians and 2008 will repeat theyll buy the houses with bailout money en masse and rent them back to us at inflated prices perhaps selling a few to elite Chinese who want to hide their wealth|1 Ehhh we do and we do It takes several weeks sometimes two months or more to fully process an unemployment claim This is in a lot of cases not fast enough to prevent serious harm to the claimant For example in Oaklahoma you must be able to return to work to claim unemployment If youre still suffering from whatever caused the unemployment and cant return to work you do not yet qualify for unemployment Unemployment is for those who can work but can not find work its not for those who literally can not work Its a quirk but one that creates challenges Further complicating things is that each state defines what allows you to qualify and what disqualifies you for unemployment benefits Misconduct is widely considered to disqualify you from unemployment benefits Many states dont count being sick as misconduct obviously but they do consider absenteeism as misconduct Which means you not only need to file but prove that you were sick This creates a hurdle The average American who needs these benefits likely needs them right now not 48 weeks from now and they cant afford to go to the doctor and prove theyre sick Even worse if there are no tests available It can be tricky to get proof of illness when you cant test for the illness though to be fair many doctors will verify youre ill even if they dont know with what So do we have unemployment benefits Sure of course Do they qualify for people who are sick with temporary illnesses Not always given specifics laws and situations Is it in a reasonable time frame that prevents you from being evicted Well quite possibly not This isnt a flip you can switch over night its a whole process Without any savings as almost half of America this isnt enough to prevent overwhelming financial problems and your debts wont be cleared so the money you start getting is already in the red TLDRUnemployment is useful but it takes weeks to actually process and not all states make it easy to get for a short term illness Sometimes theres no protection for being sick unless youre either longterm sick disability or have recovered from whatever you were sick from It sounds good on paper but people end up homeless or in transition for a reason It happens a lot more than most people realize and its largely because theres little leeway in debt and far too much delay in assistance|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 No Ill delete it sorry|0 I have a few at home They also use the water cans to test their packaging lines and then save the cans for emergencies afterwards Not sure what you mean about it tasting like beermaybe a placebo as I have never found that hahaSource worked in packaging as an intern for AB inbev|1 Just did a cursory look online and whole genome genotyping takes a few days in the lab and then is processed computationally A more limited test of loci related to superspreaders would be much faster Cost for whole genome genotyping is like 100 and it looks like sequencing is down to 200It is also not as simple as I have described of course my reddit post is not a formal research proposal It would be part of a broader strategy with genotyping as just one of the tools available First stage would be to identify factors endemic to people who become superspreadersIf this were under normal circumstances then this idea being dismissed is expected But half of China is shut down the cost of doing nothing is potentially astronomical Did you look at the Nature article I linked|1 This thread makes me sad|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 Welcome to American healthcare profit patient|1 Why is this crap even upvoted and awarded Literally just one paragraph with an edit and no fucking source provided|0 Meh it might be the best thing that happens out of all of this|1 I pulled my daughter out of school They assured us it wont affect her attendance record as it was for health and safety reasons So you might want to do the same|1 China is indeed trying this as we speakAt least at the moment my country has far more SARS survivors than fully recovered coronavirus patientsThat said SARS was a long time ago I feel like that idea got thrown in there just as speculation How many of them would still have a lot of antibodies against SARS almost 20 years later|1 I dont think theyd predict that Basically if you get a virus with incompatible antigens on it maybe it gets caught by antibodies and youre protectedOr instead it manages to not get caught due to luck or because you simply dont have enough many antibodies circulating against those antigens then after it infects a cell the new viruses will be compatible with youSo I would only expect the incompatibility to matter before the infection starts and only interact with severity to the extent that the infection severity is generally dose dependent|1 You have put your faith in a con man|1 Ill ask My GP is normally receptive to suggestions Ive had 12 infections in 8 months including a couple of really bad ones The culprit is always E Coli Ill see what she thinks Ive got some of the urine dip sticks and she taught me how to read them so I know when its an infection Thanks for the response|0 Better yet eat the Clorox wipe itll purge your body of the virus|1 Dont They are doing the same in Minnesota where I live If other states can cancel school why cant ours|0 Ive been debating with my housemates do you think this Shelter in Place is inclusive of going from shelter to shelter as in a housemate leaving to see a gf who lives alone or another one going to watch a TV show with his friends They claim that shelter to shelter is fine other than that we all are at home|1 I read that book last summer so its been interesting watching it basically play out as a giant terrible reenactment|1 So you didnt read the post It was about the efficacy of prayer on your mental healthYou can wash your hands and also pray These are not mutually exclusive ideas|1 I agree|1 What I wrote about the Spanish flu is an actual fact nothing to doubt or not doubt I have also read that about becoming potentially seasonal too is not related to what happened with the Spanish flu|0 Id make sure most of your communications are written ie emails rather than communicated over a phone|1 So the south isnt then You Sweden defenders are doing a poor job The guy above said hey Istanbul is probably worse thats an Islamic country lead by a tyrant My point exactly|0 I wish they would test more Because the lack of information is what scares me the most|0 Are you sure they werent suspected Presumptive means the test has come back positive at the provincial testing facility just awaiting confirmation from national|1 What VPN are you using Ive been using Astrill for the past three years And Ive never had any problems even during the import Expo Weve been at home streaming Netflix and YouTube for the past month Sorry to hear that you went one week without I feel for you Hope things are better now with your VPNFor all the other things I agree with you Ive had the same experiences Except the baoan at our xiaoqu does not care about me Only makes us take a ticket when Im with my chinese girlfriend|1 you are probably right but imo it is best to plan for the worst and hope for the best|1 Im an epi and a nurse friend literally made me cry for suggesting we dont hold social events for a bit so that was cool|1 They have a double big mac now and it is utterly amazing I had two this past saturday|1 I know this anthem mostly from being a Ferrari F1 fan Its just so joyous|1 Well I guess that depends just how effective western style lockdowns will beFrankly I dont think they will be a patch on the draconian chinese response or the hyper organised compliant maskwearing South Koreans or TaiwaneseCountries with a clear memory of bird flu or SARs have mostly responded wellThe west its been panic and denial and last minute changes with a bunch of half measures The peak deaths for Italy are still two weeks away France and Spain are not far behind The poorer middle eastern countries are going to be a shambles and India and Africa loom as huge disasters in waitingSo I am not optimistic in case you wonderedBut I have been wrong once or twice in my life so ya never know |0 I am so scared I wont finish my degree Having anxiety in a pandemic is a gift and a curse I think of everything|0 Idk Maybe start with 411300|0 unions become just as corrupt as the corporations not a good solution|0 Please we need this Paging rsino and rchina|1 I cant speak for all states but Ive been really disappointed with the lack of transparency in Wisconsin We had one confirmed case back on January 30 Person flew into the state capitol from Beijing with symptoms Exposed a fair number of people on the plane The persons reported as recovered but no one can say if anyone else on the plane was testedhttpsmadisoncomwsjnewslocalgovtandpoliticswisconsininvestigatingmorepossiblecasesofcovidcoronavirusstatearticle3285343cc62c5db989efd71c9812516ehtml We have 2 more possible caseshttpsmadisoncomwsjnewslocalgovtandpoliticswisconsininvestigatingmorepossiblecasesofcovidcoronavirusstatearticle3285343cc62c5db989efd71c9812516ehtml but it hasnt been released where in the state they are if its travelrelated etc|0 Good point|1 This is absolutely brilliant Are you watching US World|1 Yeah were pretty productive when the Leafs are playing|1 Could be worse Chickenpox sits dormant for decades and comes back as shingles Id much rather just get regular old chickenpox again than shingles|0 I think you have a severe reading comprehension issue|0 So get better job with better benefits I dont see the problem|1 Here in PA all schools statewide are closed If an entire state can close schools surely nyc can They need to get wirh the program|1 Taiwan is taking this seriously so is Japan S Korea Singapore HK etc|0 Very likely The CDC gave an alert last week about beginning to stock up your house in case you have to quarantine|1 The main issue is people in the states including the employers who wont give workers paid time off arent taking this pandemic seriously and are risks to others|0 Ask yourself why there isnt an emergency mass manufacturing of these masks in the United States|1 A shoddy reference for blood type distributions by country Although probably inaccurate the reporting of one country to have 85 of one blood type and another to have as little as 26 o is interestingEdit forgot to send the linkhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiBloodtypedistributionbycountrySee references Its under dispute|0 For now theyre enjoying the profits but thats to help with the losses in the past few weeks and the losses to come|0 If you google my community college in southern California there are 62k students enrolled as of 3152020 there is no plan to cancel classes or go online This week weve gotten emails that they will shut down the school only if 5 studentstaff are infected while someone in the city has passed of the virus|0 The biggest limitation to numbers is how china reports deaths and limits of testing due to lack of kits or pcr machine time|0 Why Its a big country The arent cases everywhere not to mention closing schools probably doesnt help anyway|0 This crisis can help drive innovations like thisIm not sure the costs but what if planes or buses had these lights left on during idle hours to replace use of disinfectantsHow could it not reduce even flu outbreaksMedical facilities could have separate entrances for contagious vs noncontagious patients Ive never seen that except at some pediatricians offices but it makes sense for all the patients coming in with injuries or illnesses that are not contagious|0 One followed up their post with a video talking about their decision to stay open They had a young child in the video with them which I felt was added to make it seem safe to be there It is so upsetting|0 CCP did a great job brainwashing especially the young people there They seed the hate for the western countries and teach them the false ideologies I am from China and I was one of the brainwashed one until I see the truth Now it is impossible for me to have a healthy conversation with most of my friends even the close one or relatives because it is simply they are still in the blind thanks to the CCP|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and 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idiocy I give it two weeks before we exceed the Italian crisis by magnitudes|0 Why does this sub even allow rumors and unconfirmed sources No need to cause hysteria I come here for only confirmed facts and updates about Coronavirus|0 Snow can be a cold but effective alternative to toilet paper|1 That damn late stage capitalism saving us again|0 YaThat is a problem|0 4 days later and nothing Wow After all that they should be jumping to test not youre husband having to be persistent about it|0 essentially committing crimes against humanityAn overburdened health system and trying to protect the noninfected population is not a crime against humanity|1 Holy shit This is fucked up|0 Donate it to poorer countries please US has enough resources to buy their own masks|0 Thanks for the laugh|1 We will see how wonderfully that will work out in the next months I really feel for american people but thats the bed theyve made and now theyre going to die in it|0 Loads of countries in Europe have chosen not to prioritise testing You all just focus on the UK because you have a weird hate boner for it|0 How can they afford it Geez when I was in college spring break meant an opportunity to pick up more shifts at work|1 It doesnt matter if they ban eating wildlife You dont need to eat wildlife to get infected Bats are continually contaminating human enviornments with their virusladen feces and urine They raid farmers orchards for fruit They fly into houses and sometimes decide to roost there Some woman got Marburg virus jsut by walking into a caveAnywhere you have bats youre going to have an eventual epidemic if not pandemichttpsnewsyahoocomebolaboyindexpatientzerobattree182151708htmlhttpsnewsyahoocomebolaboyindexpatientzerobattree182151708htmlAccording to an investigation published by the scientific journal EMBO Molecular Medicine on Tuesdayhttpembomolmedembopressorgcontentearly20141229emmm201404792abstract1 the current epidemic in West Africa stems from a single zoonotic transmission event in Meliandou Guinea where the boy Emile Ouamouno may have been infected by playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of insectivorous freetailed bats|0 Im not politicizing anything His response has been completely inept because he and everyone he has appointed are woefully incapable when it comes to responding to a major crisis Practically no one is being tested coronavirus has been allowed to spread for weeks and he is refusing to cooperate with Congress to do anything that might prevent things from getting worse He cannot he trusted to respond adequately to this crisis That is objective fact If you want to drink more KoolAid why dont you stop arguing with people here and just go back to TD|0 This is another reply that Im not sure is for me Did you mean to reply to the OP Because I agree with you and thats what I was saying with my comment which was in reply to another comment|1 Welcome to America where people worship celebrities and are surprised when celebrities are prioritized|1 No it didnt Something like this has been inevitable since it started spreading outside of China At least since community spread began Its popping up in celebrities now because its already everywhere like everyone who was paying attention knew|0 I no longer trust the CDC|1 Lots of other countries taking precautions so they thought they should probably join|1 The crisis is intended to drag on for as long as possible People are supposed to get coronavirus just not at a rate that will overwhelm the health system If your household is young and healthy you dont need to worry Just isolate yourselves for as long as possible Most Canadians will end up getting coronavirus unless a vaccine is deployed within a few months|0 Even worse than a monkey isnt itx200B they could just do random detections|0 I agree Also why do people keep minimizing it by comparing it to the flu Even though there are confirmed cases of COVID19 in the US most people are more likely to catch and spread influenza the flu So far this season there have been nearly 30 million cases of flu and 17000 deaths|0 Ah well then no need to worry Our betters have it in hand Carry on|1 Well just trying to have a conversation If it concerns you that much than educate me I would love to learn from you|1 Yeah I would have expected no growth or slight negative if anything|0 According to the WHOhttpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronaviruses it is not certain how long the new coronavirus SARSCoV2 that causes COVID19 survives on surfaces but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses SARSCoV2 seems to be infectious on surfaces outside a cell or a patient for an estimated 48 hours Shipments from China take longer than thatFrequentlytouched surfaces like doorknobs however should be cleaned often according to the WHO|1 I live in Vaughan ON should I consider quitting my part time job at a grocery store Ive already seen people with face masks and interacting with so many people might put me at higher risk Its not that important to me and isnt worth the risk rn|0 I know there are both pros and cons to this type of thing but I think its amazing that people are willing to potentially expose themselves by acting in capacity as guards for their communities in an effort to keep people safe I believe the weapons are good deterrents and likely will not need to be used and this is an effective way to provide at the very least a psychological sense of safety to people in the communities behind these barricades Im from a hurricane prone area and every year after a bad hurricane looters and violence were always a real threat particularly in areas like mine which werent in the city centre So we also had makeshift barricades in some neighbourhoodsstreets very similar to this often with older men with weapons on standby in case anything kicked off as violence was expected and in some places often encountered with desperate or aggressive looters Hurricane Andrew 1992 is a good example of when society essentially broke down in the more rural places in the affected disaster area like mine that were completely destroyed and resource guardingcommunity protection like this was set up in more than a few streets So for anyone trying to hate on the Chinese for this realise that this is also done in plenty of places in the USA where natural disasters can get severe Good on anyone willing to step up and take the risk to provide even just emotional relief to some degree for their neighbours|0 Thanks for the laugh We need them these days|1 Uh maybe people in Asian countries like Japan wear masks out of societal consideration so theyre not spreading their germs around if they themselves are sickWtf|1 So many companies including CNN are forbidding employees from flying domestically|0 my family is well see what happens and I didnt give a shit and bought a bunch of canned foodsrice amazon pantry earlier in the week canned food is nearly sold out on amazon pantry now and some of the Costcos near me are starting to sell out of crap too|1 Yes the government needs to get the message out that this is serious and the general public need to change their behaviour We ALL need to be staying in not meeting in large groups only going out when necessary|1 Taking care of my mum and my sister making sure they have everything they need to get through this Hoping to god I can keep the virus out of the house|1 just curious here but what would they honestly do if half the district just didnt come in|1 Take this with a grain of salt but I suspect we are testing we are just keeping the results more quiet then China That is what we should be embarrassed about|0 GUATEMALA CITY Guatemala on Tuesday became the first Central American nation to block deportation flights from the United States in an effort to prevent the spread of the coronavirus a dramatic turnabout on Trump administration policies barring entry to asylum seekers from the regionGuatemalas ministry of foreign affairs announced that all deportation flights would be paused as a precautionary measure to establish additional health checks Ahead of the announcement President Alejandro Giammattei said in a Monday news conference that Guatemala also would close its borders completely for 15 daysThis virus can affect all of us and my duty is to preserve the lives of Guatemalans at any cost he saidGuatemala a major source of migration to the United States as well as a primary transit country for people from other nations headed to the USMexico border in recent days has blocked travelers from the US as well as arrivals from Canada and a few European and Asian countriesThe Guatemalan government under Giammatteis new administration had confirmed six coronavirus cases as of Monday morning But it has taken a hard tack in its response to the pandemic to try to prevent the rapid spread seen in North America and elsewhere becoming among the first in the region to bar entry of AmericansOther nations in the Western Hemisphere including El Salvador Honduras Panama Colombia Ecuador Argentina Chile and Peru also have taken steps to bar foreigners and in some cases to shut their borders including to their own returning citizensGuatemalas move to refuse deportations will have a significant impact on the Trump administrations efforts to ramp up a controversial agreement under which the United States sends migrants who are seeking asylum in the United States to Guatemala instead even those who arent Guatemalan citizensThe deal between the US and Guatemala called the Asylum Cooperative Agreement denies the asylum seekers the opportunity to apply in the United States for refuge and instead allows them only to seek asylum in GuatemalaGuatemalas highest court initially blocked the agreement Since November the US has sent Guatemala more than 900 men women and children who had arrived at the border from El Salvador and HondurasBefore the decision to block deportation flights the Guatemalan government had posted a schedule for 10 flights this week from the United States One arrived Monday afternoon from Brownsville Texas carrying 56 Guatemalans and 17 Salvadorans but another set for Tuesday was canceled according to Alejandra Mena a spokeswoman with Guatemalas immigration instituteGuatemalan authorities said they had been assured by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement that they would not send people to Guatemala who were sick or displayed symptoms of the virusReturning immigrants receive health screenings before boarding deportation flights and after arriving in Guatemala City said Joaquin Samayoa spokesman for the Minister of Foreign Relations in Guatemala Those found to be sick would be quarantined he addedOfficials at theUS Department of Homeland Security and the Customs and Border Protection agency which implement the asylum agreement directed a request for comment on Guatemalas decision to the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency which administers the flights The agency did not immediately respond to requests for commentUS homeland security officials have held meetings in recent weeks to prepare to add Mexican migrants to the groups being sent back to Guatemala despite opposition from Mexico and to roll out similar agreements with El Salvador and Honduras sources told The Times on condition of anonymity to protect against retaliationThose plans appear to have been derailed by the pandemicThe Honduran government announced last week that three of its citizens who were deported from the United States had exhibited symptoms of coronavirus and were put into isolation The country suspended repatriation flights from MexicoAs of Monday the USMexico border remained open to both vehicle and pedestrian traffic and flights but the governments of Mexico and El Salvador wrangled with each other over stranded travelersOfficials in the region and even inside the Trump administration as well as health professionals and immigration advocates have expressed fears that Trumps focus on immigration enforcement could worsen the pandemicCasa del Migrante a shelter in Guatemala City that since November has housed hundreds of Salvadorans and Hondurans returned under the USGuatemala agreement announced over the weekend that it would stop receiving immigrants who had been deported from the US or MexicoMauro Verzeletti director of the shelter called for the US to stop deportation flights to Guatemala to slow the spread of the virus He said the immigrants are already vulnerable to illnesses because they arrive from the US physically exhausted and simply in a really bad conditionThe Trump administration previously favored a policy known as Remain in Mexico which combined with other initiatives has forced some 80000 asylum seekers back to Mexico and often stranded them in dangerous border cities as they await processing of their cases in the USBut that policy is bogged down in litigation though the Supreme Court last week allowed it to continue until an ultimate ruling on its legality Amid a significant drop in apprehensions at the US southern border Trump administration officials have increasingly turned to the asylum agreement with GuatemalaOn Monday the ACLU and other groups filed suit against ICE seeking the release of immigrants in detention who are particularly vulnerable to COVID19 Immigration judges prosecutors and lawyers also called on the Justice Department to close immigration courtsJudge A Ashley Tabaddor president of the National Assn of Immigration Judges said judges have been told to continue holding hearings with immigrants during the health crisisCall DOJ and ask why they are not shutting down the courts she saidStaff writers Molly OToole in Guatemala City Cindy Carcamo in Los Angeles and Maura Dolan in San Francisco contributed to this report|0 Before worry about winter we should worry about dengue fever season First I should say that Brazil has been luck with the timingThe covid19 only arrived after the carnival When you read carnival your probably think about the paradehttpsimgrezdycomPRODUCTIMAGE64765e689976e07314f2c93b37c3e081cd40d06Sambdromolgjpg For the natives carnival is a week long street partyhttpcartunistasoldacombrwpcontentuploads201301curitibanC3A3otemcarnavaljpg that happens in literary every single city in the countryThe virus arrived from people that traveled to Europe and America during the carnival holidays Those are working middle class that travels abroad can afford the best care Not surprisingly during the first week all the cases were diagnosed in the most prestigious hospital in the country The first cross contamination happened at a wedding from people sharing a blotter of molly allegedly Then they spreaded to their employees and two weeks after that we lost track of the contamination pathBe aware that most working class in Brazil uses public transportation they run at full capacity at peak hours Also note that it is common to live with family parents siblingsOver the last weeks the president Bolsonaro called a rally against the congress and supreme court yeah the politic environment in Brazil is that bad right now Every sane person said this was a terrible idea But he called covid19 a hysteria a Chinese plot to destroy the world economyBolsoary is likely infect the shared a private plane with 12 confirmed cases of covid19 in a visit to Maralago even shared a table with Trump Despite his condition he not only went to the rally wearing no mask but also shacked at least 272 supporters hands Gave interviews etc He called people to join the rallies on twitter and his son tweeted a picture of and old lady at the rallyhttpstwittercomBolsonaroSPstatus1239304103760744450 The same son that gave this interview to Fox Newshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvj1mhwwN2Yd0People are still packing the beacheshttpspbstwimgcommediaES5rAHvXgAAp3Oaformatjpgnamemedium and soccer games still happening People dont realize how serious this isNow lets talk about tropical diseasesDengue fever is one the most common mosquito disease in Brazil On an average year it infects about 1 million of person and kills 750 usually due haemorrhage After a bad dengue season the government invest heavily in prevention campaign make sure your house dont have spots with still water where the mosquito can lay eggs and those numbers can halve But I havent seem a single on this yearMay and April are the dengue peakBut dengue isnt the only tropical disease The same mosquito Aedes aegypti also carreis Zika and Chikungunya Also in the states close to the equator there is malariaRight now Im not so worried about the winter If we manage to dengue season we probably can manage the winter All of this assuming covid dengue is worse than only one of them Maybe they interact in a weird way that makes both not so deadly idk|0 I went and worked out at a gym yesterday went to get food etc Was more diligent than usual but nothing crazy Im good pal|0 I am running fh but get very low GPU usage at 1 Is it a normal behaviour|0 Not Idris Tom AND Idris This virus has great taste but needs to keep its dirty hands off of Idris and Tom Bad virus|0 Yep Bystanders whove seen some shit know that intervening to help out can result in an attack on you One person is usually weary about helping It requires a group to come together and step in|0 A couple of weeks for a strong immune system to recover is bloody scary|0 Popular winter vacation country for skiing and drinking for Norwegians and many other countries|1 Once all of this passes by hopefully sooner than later there needs to be a restructuring of these dumb asses who are supposedly in charge Theyve handled this situation incredibly poorlyYoull get your chance to fix this mess in November Just hope enough fellow Americans agree|1 I see what youre sayingI think this would require airtight Informed Consent in which the pt understands the risk benefit clearly For HQ maybe not so much of a big deal Bigger deal for remdesivirIf were offering this to relatively healthy patients even if they are alert and physically comfortable the ethical question would be Are patients more vulnerable emotionally during a pandemic due to contagious panic Is it OK to offer Remdesivir to a pt when there is a 80 likelihood that they will recover without it For those who are extremely worried about that 20 chance of severe illness how likely would they agree to the untested medication if these percentages were presented to them for another disease during a nonpandemic period How much is pandemic anxiety distorting their decision makingis this whats best for the patient herself or are we exploiting her vulnerability for the greater goodThere is a long history in medical ethics discussing the innate vulnerability of patientshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6458617httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6458617|1 Its malignant Its because trump thinks lower numbers makes him look better|1 10 times Thats only 30kAs you can see 75 million die each year to natural causes 30k What a joke number My bet is about 4050 times Now whats funny is guess how much better job the US can do Go on give me more of your blind estimations born out of hatred of China|0 We did think it could have been a seasonal flu to begin with but the symptoms were a perfect match for coronavirus cruically the completely dry cough shortness of breath rather than obstructed breathing and localised pain in the bottom of her lungs helped to seperate it from seasonal flu|0 I genuinely did not believe this would happen All the complaints about this will probably be the first time any of my acquaintances talk about the virus on social media|0 Lockdown and infected people isolating have the same result your point is incredibly short sighted|0 Imagine believing that all information about a global pandemic should be approved by one politician before reaching the public Then to blame it on our free press Its the the most unamerican thing Ive ever heard|1 Whose guidelines Some are intended to prevent panic in a population of people without masks or the knowledge to use them effectivelyOthers are intended to prevent covid spread in a population with access to masks and the experience using them from prior history China Japan Korea Taiwan the medical advice is to use masksDont get me wrong our advice is good advice But it is advice intended to limit panic and waste rather than community spread|0 Are they really gonna charge 200000 members with murder|0 A small handful yeahBut youd need to get their consent to draw blood|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uRepliesNice at 1779 nices2 ulerobinbot at 1581 nices3 uporousasshole at 529 nices132061 ubigboyeats23 at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Uighurts are already on their way to the crematorium dont worry|1 Or they made last minute changesnegotiations of some kind At this point I kind of dont want negotiations unless its stuff to protect Canadians from losing everything from lack of work during this time|1 I dont remember when the first crew member tested positive but back then in the early days of this thing they were being told it was just the cold or flu Non medical professionals were told by medical professionals that they were fine so I cant really blame them for accepting that at face value Sure if we could go back in time and change things we would have the crew do things very differently but its not really fair to expect then to make decisions based on information that they had no way of knowing at the time|1 Hell yeahI love good news|1 Same boat hereFor a week I wore masks and made my family wear mask as wellThen false sense of security with people around me since no cases seems to be popping up in New York I still kept my distances with others though because there are report of possible spread from asymptomatic person When cases start popping up in other countries I started to wonder again if we are safe from all this And it wasnt until I learned of how little testing we have done have I fully realizedWe are fucked|0 The epidemiologists are doing some estimating but yeah To be honest Id suspect that if their calculations about here are correct the UK Is similarIn numbers Ohio is a fly over state for the most part Nowhere near the international travel that takes place in the UK|1 We also have an army of absolutely useless paper pushers who enjoy all the benefits of being a federal employee and union member without doing much of any actual work|1 Its speculation my opinion but is not based in no evidence see this map httpswwwpinterestcompin295971006736171274 The areas with more Denisovan influence in the DNA seems to be more affected by the virus more mortality at least Is still early and this wasnt based in any racist thing as you probabily thought Part of my closest family is from Hong Kong and no one more than me is wishing for the end of this epidemic virus|0 Cant he be prosecuted for fraud|0 Theres question of how effective the vaccine is thats why its not used in the US|1 i really hope so im having tax issues and cant seem to find anyone who can help|1 Its alarming that the US numbers are as high as they are despite this extreme lack of testing|1 After telling people they WONT get tested unless they are a hospital case HOW are the numbers gonna be accurate I cant help but think the government are doing this to keep the numbers down|0 In same boat Mine is expiring and we just put a deposit on new place we move to in 3 weeks But since I just lost my job I think instead Im going to have to move back to my familys home in my home state and bunker there for nearly a year to get back on financial track|0 Every artist strives to be so appreciated |1 httpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyS5httpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyS5The peak of flu season was then Even if 20000 people in the US have Coronavirus its far more likely bathroombreak had the flu just like he said The symptoms of Coronavirus do not make it easy to identify if they did then you wouldnt need a PCR test Testing returns results in 45 days because it is a PCR test So in many cases the actions have to just be presume positive and isolate Labcorp and Quest have both started commercial testing You should expect care to be rationed in a fast moving epidemic if you get sick very badly you might not get a bed in the hospital either if you arent sick enough|0 1 this is something the government should anticipate and prepare for2 sure doesnt seem to be a problem for a lot of other countries Were woefully behind other countries in per capita testing South Korea has done 700x more tests than the US in per capita testing|0 oh man fuck those billionaires though|0 Yeah of course And thank you Be safe|1 hey so I cant find anything about chloroquine being approved it seems like it is just been trialed also I cant find anything about the virus been always around Can you elaborate a little Interested Thanks|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 My neighborhood Facebook page is nothing short of astonishing Any inquiry about steps to prepare is met with a torrent of abuseLOL Its just the fluFlu kills millions this is nothingSo tired of all the scare mongering Everything is fineThe main theme is that any thought to prepare or react whatsoever is just panic and panic is bad so dont do anythingMany people are going to be in for a surprise|0 Maybe so but the world isnt on pause We start dumping money into wasteful programs with a high debt already not sustainable outside of the pandemic our creditors are going to notice and start calling in the paymentsI really appreciate the situation but frankly if you put this all on the govt to resolve read pay for in addition to our current obligations we are gonna end up in a Weimar Republic type scenario economically I dont think people want to be cashing out their 401k for a couple loaves of bread|1 You know it would be more effective to have these two cases in separate articles I dont understand why people and the media are erring on the side of caution with this Causing a complete panic is not effective in any means but essentially downplaying what is actually happening does not help us get ahead of this thing in the slightest|0 Until the flare up in Italy there were only reasons to treat people coming from China|1 He sounded upset there was a moment where you thought he was about to cry Maybe it was difficult to deliver that news|0 A lot of these young kids are looking at the nearly zero mortality under 50 and feeling pretty good about the virus What they and no one knows is if the lung damage is irreversible or not Wheezing the rest of your life is better than being dead but it is not ideal And surviving corona virus from the bar crawl in your 20s isnt going to mean much if you die from your 5th pneumonia in your 30s|0 Yes the Democrats created corona virus and unleashed it in China because Trump was about to reach a trade deal and they couldnt let him be successfulHowever despite the Democrats capacity to covertly engage in rogue international biowarfare they were too shortsighted or incompetent to keep the virus from spreading outside China |1 At the one I work for half of corporate will work from home to limit the number of people in one space Anyone who can work off laptops can work from home|1 So is Jakarta Kuala Lumpur and most capitals tbh In Singapore many dont even use AC at home much Its only offices and malls like every other countrySource am singaporean who lives in Jakarta|1 Yes thats all true It seems like magical thinking just hoping it goes away with no more pain on wall street We see what its doing around the world and still we delay and stonewall any nationwide attempts to stop the spread of COVID19|1 Europe but I made a mistake I pay 39 EUR and a few cents for a carton of 12x1 Liter so its a bit more than 3 USDCant imagine USA prices being that much different though except for coronacraze pushing price up some stores here did double their price for iso lately but I paid that 39 for a dozen bottles todayFor an IBC of 1000L Id pay 1136 EURA box of 72100ml 50 EURSingle 1L spray bottle 449|0 Unfortunately face masks wont even protect people now |0 The percent is decreasing because the number is increasing|1 Is it present and contagious before symptoms form|0 I very much doubt that therell be a recession I think the worst thatll happen is a weak two or three months The classic recession precursors just arent there|0 We are sick fat lazy comorbid humans as Americans We would rather buy than do the work When there are people in power that would rather help those in other countries over Americans first that problem has to be corrected first Meanwhile the stock market continues its march to 14500 No one is listening to us|0 Nothing any POTUS or any individual could have done NOTHING I repeat NOTHING could have ever possibly in any scenario or dimension or version of reality prevented the virus from spreading to the united states You are right of course it is already here I guess that means we should take no measures aimed at reducing spread Go ahead and and travel come in from other countries with much higher rates go to your crowded events cause its too late so why try to limit anything eh Good luck with that|1 People in KC think it somehow cant cross State Line Its embarrassing The KS schools are preparing for students to not return after spring break Meanwhile the school three blocks away isnt doing anything cause Missouri|0 Thank you|1 This is exactly what pisses me off People are like ahaha covid19 only has a 3 percent mortality rate so if you get it you almost certainly wont die because 10397 chance of survival haha oh 60 and older is worse well fuck the boomers HahaIts no jokeIf one in three Americans get it thats not at all implausible then at a 3 percent death rate 372 million Americans will dieThat 372e6 figure is greater than the whole populations of San Diego CA Austin TX and Dallas TX combined|1 More cable cutting at PHE like last weekTheir internet is shocking clearly|1 Take a drink every time Tedros says China is the best or China is great or suggests you fly to Wuhan right now because nothing is wrong|1 Hum dee dum just laying here on the North Shore waiting for the first confirmed case in my parishcity I tried getting a job very recently but lost the hold because of a health issue now resolved and am going to reapply However I no longer expect to be anywhere near as lucky because I have a nasty feeling theres going to be job cuts all over very soon|0 The greatest issue in my opinion is global supply chains We cant afford to wreck the economy in its current state Even still there would be millions of essential personnel needed to continue the basic functions of society from Emergency Services to Shipyard Workers|1 I completely agree Kind of unfortunate our society is attracted more to negative headlines|0 And Ive been applying for jobs in Japan and Malaysia now Im weighing the risks of the virus vs throwing out my life plan|0 I may be wrong on this cause Ive been distracted with a family crisis but isnt this the mayor that declared last week they werent going to shut down the schools cause there wasnt enough people with the virus in the city|0 Only 8 in NYC though Lets see how this week goes Hopefully we perform a lot of tests and theyre all negative Wishful thinking I know|0 Trump implemented travel bans to a small handful of countries after the virus had likely spread beyond those countriesAirports in the US are not testing for Coronavirus symptoms even for those returning from Coronavirus hotspots Testing is few and far between with only dozens of test kits available for many states Even a few days ago Trump called the virus their Democrats hoax He fired the people at the CDC whose job it was to respond to a potential pandemic You want a list of how badly the Trump admin fucked up the response just by being untruthful Heres a partial listhttpswwwcnncom20200311politicsfactchecktrumpadministrationcoronavirus28dishonestindexhtmlYour cries against criticising the President of the United States whose job it is to lead in these situations and their administration which is supposed to act on that leadership are hilarious I didnt know someone could bend over backwards to lick a boot but thanks for the demo|0 Thanks very much for the complete answer|1 Thats terrible I hope it gets better for you|1 Lies are fine because think of the opticsHe cant tell it like it isHes a politician beholden to big money and controlled by entrenched party linesHes not about to govern Thats insane he needs to be voted in again to further doing the above|0 I totally understand My nan passed away in December and I dont think I could cope with losing anyone else Fucking terrified Just stay in contact and make sure shes keeping herself safe If u can drop off foodmedicine safely it might be an idea|0 Its a whole lot easier to control a territory smaller than New Jersey|1 Nice combo You can always adjust the CPUGPU load in Rosetta and Folding If you need help doing so let me know |1 This subreddit is intended for the discussion of scientific work related to COVID19 and the SARSCoV2 as stated in the sidebar This post is based on a news report which will be better suited for example in rcoronavirus If you believe we made a mistake please message us Thank you for keeping COVID19 on topic|1 I dont understand how we are the same country that won World War 2 youre welcome France and UK by ramping up our production to produce more tanks bullets and planes than everyone else yet we cantwont ramp this shit up We still have the army come into countries weve bombed and rebuild huge bridges and airfields in the matter of days Mobilize our shit spin up factories to mass produce whatever we need for this|0 Well at this rate it was apparently projected to have roughly 17m in April|1 Later they will charge 20 interest on the payments just watch|1 A lot of airlines may just stop flying at a loss Better a parked aircraft than one losing you money|0 They should make the masks prints Fxxk off im doing you a favor on it|1 I second this talk to your student body president and hold a student walkout so they take you guys seriously or they just wont listen|0 Ahhh makes sense Thanks Italy has seen some shit|0 I totally laughed out loud|1 Feel like we work for the same company lol|1 Just a heads up but one of the main side effects of chloroquine is retinopathy which is probably why governments are reluctant to recommend widespread prophylactic usehttpseyewikiaaoorgHydroxychloroquinetoxicity|1 Thats what was missing from my model It all makes sense now lol for real though I added more to the model and will continue as time goes on|1 Get the hell out of there Now Wear a mask do everything you can to protect others But get the hell out You probably have a few days left before no transiting country will let you in It sounds from everything you say like that place is about to be a disaster zone I wouldnt want to be in China when the government gets desperate And theres every chance civil unrest or even revolutioncoup could follow|0 The thing thats really bothering me is the lack of real clear information Some say its airborn some say its infectious before symptoms some say the R naught is 27 other 35 and upwards And we still have this idiots going yeah well the flu kills more Can we just get a clear answer to what this exactly is|0 It is popular but just not with gov|1 Well perhaps theres one thing warbut Im too scared to comprehend any of that rn|0 Youre being lied to about masks to keep them in stock for doctors|0 Realistically it cant be anymore Once you get close to 100 people infected in a country the number of people and objects they could have contaminated becomes too hard to track In countries still seeing single digits or less they could possibly lock down their borders or take other extreme measures to keep it out for a time but it would be delaying the inevitable Too many countries in too many regions are past the point of no return This is worldwide now The only thing to do is throw down some speed bumps to slow the infection to a manageable speed We are past containment we are at the point where we simply need to manage the disease|0 All my stores are completely sold out of those How about the other hand soaps that dont contain alcohol|1 Hey now my superiority complex is the biggest and bestest|1 Outside of medical I dont really care We have bigger issues than new shoes or phones or whatever crap we buy|0 Which was probably according to current theories anyway related to an outbreak of a different strain of influenza before the one that cause the Spanish Flu So these young people got the other strain when they were young so their bodies were primed to respond to the virus But the virus was different so the immune system kept pumping out the antibodies but it wasnt doing anything The other theory is the second wave was a mutated form that was more deadly overall killing off a large number of soldiers in trenches and the like|0 Im just glad shes rational and not out licking doorknobs|1 All these random celebrities athletes heads of state and other politicians getting infected should be a clue to the real infection rate They can actually get tested|0 xbox one controller work perfectly on PC too you should get him one if you havent already he will feel right at home|1 Not sure if youd meant companies taking care of employees just helping people in general or being generally responsibleATT removed data caps and Uhaul offered free units for 30 days to college students being displaced by the university shut downs no purchase necessary ChickfilA announced yesterday meaning someone worked on Sunday theyd be closing their dining roomsNo idea how any are treating their employees|1 You can use the money or lose the moneyI like this approach|0 Good Samaritian laws exist in theory but does not seem to be enforced by courts|1 There is a short story by that name in a small anthology called Radicalized I highly recommend it|1 Thanks for advice|1 I strongly disagree with those who say you deserve it I am sorry In my opinion you as a country are doing amazing and responsible job in preventing coronavirus from further spreading and bilding hospitals for sick I am sure Poland wouldnt menage it Yes problem started in China but you are facing it in right way You can be proud I am again sorry for what you heard|1 Whats interesting is if you watch the hearing where the CDC director was grilled and eventually caved and said testing was free The overall cost the woman was pitching to him that convinced him to make it free included flu test and ER visit So watching the hearing everything OP experienced should be included Obviously though looks like theres some confusion there The CDC director did say they were working on Operationalizing making it free which could be the process of waving fees OP mentions|1 do it start blaming let others knows that those in charge should be to blame so that we can vote them outand the same time we need to figure out wtf what we can do as a normal communityI have already stocked piled food I have about 2 weeks of food going to expand to a whole entire month I cant get sanitizers because they dont existalso remember to buy a month or more of extra ordinary supplies bandages adviltylenol vit c vit e etc|0 So true|1 Its a hunch because its untested We have no idea how long sufficient antibodies will stay with someone|0 No the government needs to freeze the bills and debts No payments no collections That way people can go home and sit tight without immediately having men with guns put them on the street when this is done That way their cars dont get repossessed that way their savings dont get raided That way their services dont get disrupted But sacrificing the profit of the rich to save the masses is verboten This is an opportunity to exploit Once everyone has collapsed financially due to never ending bills during a period of no income the banks will en masse steal all the homes and vehicles they can to recoup losses at the cost of mass suffering and deprivation|0 Bergamo is a city in the North of Italy in Lombardy where the death rate is at 10|0 NOOOOOOO NOT THE CUTE BOISSSSSSSSSS|0 Jesushow is that even possible If this were airborne I suppose I could see it but this isnt airborne Are some people just normally blasting out droplets Holy shit|0 Im all for taking things with a grain of salt Can you provide sources and evidence for your claims Do you work in a government agency privy to requisitions of this kind|1 It is terrible|0 No idea But i keep seeing the same post over and over again Is there an ACTUAL campaign about this Is he a candidate for that function I doubt that very much Btw i dont know the guy at all just saw some videos on internet talking about infecive diseases thats allWeird|0 Yeah but actually we in Italy took the more restrictive measures to counter the infection from China also we arent the EUs economic center I thought it would expand in GermanyUKFrance first I felt quite protected here since 10 days ago|1 I am moving away from traditional stocks concerned the market is not behaving appropriately and in my opinion is not serious on the virus yet I went with everyone else to gold Volatility ETFs appear attractive but I am not in a position to judge and thats outside my comfort zone Im actually going to my planner for guidance in that Hes been busy though for obvious reasons I also am conflicted If China rebounds not only will production there increase but so will consumption that may offset some other countries I fully expected another 5001000 pts drop on the DOW but its looking like its stabilized for today which is odd considering the media is blasting the CDC pandemic planning news Frankly with the dip we saw Monday and Tuesday and today running slightly positive I have no clue what to expect|1 Definitely My daughter turns 16 soon we had a big party planned at a restaurant whole nine yards and its on hold until further notice While no one in our area has been confirmed with the virus we have too many folks in the family that are elderly or otherwise immune compromised and she is currently returning from an event out of town by plane|1 Right If youve got more against cruises than the fear of a virus I get you If that was the only reason thatd be a little sad so many things in life can kill us No need to live in fear |0 I wonder what idiot is possibly spreading this around like the dumbass that they are|0 Thank you for this|1 With no where near the medical facilities supplies and personnel|0 Ive heard of people in China not getting food due to being aggressively quarantined but is the country as a whole facing shortages|0 It can affect them but the death rate is non existent|0 At this point theres no way to know|0 very true i am glad i get to keep my job and keep making money|1 China has never been so clean|1 Copied and pasted verbatimPffft no wonder Go and live in Venezuela if you want to be a commies|0 American here well this should cut down on the number of needed tests eh|1 Thanks Is there any updated data from the Diamond Princess that would line up with their predictions|1 I think thats a while off I hope Im wrong though I think the cobra meeting will happen and Borris will say something like we are basing everything on the science and we are now looking at possibly limiting people of more than 1000 meeting together we are planning other steps but not at this time|1 EXACTLY MY THOUGHT Also THANK YOU Im trying|1 Holy shit is that for real Or all the sick people are in hazmat suits|0 The paper ends by sayingAlthough the evidence shows that SARSCoV2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here However since we observed all notable SARSCoV2 features including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site in related coronaviruses in nature we do not believe that any type of laboratorybased scenario is plausible More scientific data could swing the balance of evidence to favor one hypothesis over anotherEdit Form|1 I dont think anyones relationship with china gets better after this|1 My god They arguing about whether or not theyre going to argueThis seems incredibly British somehow|0 To be fair though literally nobody could have known|1 that is nonsense bullshit that we dont need to be spreading right now|0 People just dont want to listen here |0 void out the below Average AmericansLearning opportunity Hey bud you only need to bother with the comma prior to quotes if youre writing dialogue|1 The 1918 flu only killed 2 and that sucked ass|0 Yeah I live in Hawaii said testing will start this week|1 The thing that keeps this from being the big one is the lead time The big one will kick our ass before we realize it exists|0 Absolutely Anyone else want to help We could link up people who need help by region with those who can help|1 No The government takes a third of my pay check already and I owed nearly 700 when I filed my taxes this year And for what The roads I drive on are shit the public education system is a joke teachers are underpaid public libraries are closing left and right theres a huge shortage of police and firemen in my part of my state and yet the government still shuts down every year because the budget doesnt work Where the hell are my taxes going So a small increase in my already unreasonable tax rate is unacceptable until someone proves that they can manage the money properly When people say M4A will save average Americans money on healthcare its because people like me will be footing the bill I dont have children or a mortgage or any other writeoffs to claim so they will gouge me for every penny they can Its not my job to pay for everyone elses healthcare Its not going to save me a penny|0 Soon China will have to start the factories again otherwise their economy would get decimatedLast night China reported only 79 cases outside Hubei province so at least the numbers are pointing to that directionI really hope that China has this under control outside Hubei but I have some doubts|0 I wouldnt be surprised if Gen Con decided to sit out this year too Which would be lame since thats my main vacation but understandable|0 I survive on about 10K a year So of course people who dwell in opulence on 100K a year with guaranteed jobs for life yell at me that they work hard instead of admitting that theyre a privileged upper class in terms of income and lifestyle|1 lol dude Ive spent the past month buying supplies Food ammo water gear So well done on assuming something and making a fool of you and me both|1 I meant yesterday and the day before GMT is messing with me Regardless this isnt so much a drop as a a simple variation Until there is an actual sustained drop over multiple days this data means nothing at all Maybe they didnt do as much testing because healthcare workers are sick for example|0 Holy crap this is great news My biggest personal worry was antibodydependent enhancement ADE which means a vaccine would be impossible SARS was shown to trigger ADENo reinfection No ADE Vaccine|0 I dont disagree Now the the new capacity has been brought online if the masks can get effectively distributed to locations that need them then the public health advice can change to encourage their use Its just that up until that point there could be more risk of panictheftunrest if people were led to believe that they needed something they couldnt get to preserve their safetyThat is pretty amazing how quickly they brought such massive production capacity online|1 They will almost certainly end up being delayed The question is for how long The best decision will be made later when we have lots more information about the situation|1 The more people that understand this the less our society will suffer Pass it on|0 I feel like the thing is if you dont test people then a lot of people cant get tested positive If you cant get people tested positive you cant have people having contact with people that tested positive|0 A guy in one aisle took one look at me and said oh sheeeeit hell naw nigga and did a complete 180 didnt see him in the store againHoly shit dude Im totally going out in fullgear from now on|0 so what happened to china bad|0 Bbbbuuut I need to go to that concert the movie night that sauna Having everyone addicted to consuming comes in as a severe disadvantage now|0 but theyre not finding obvious clusters of deaths in Thailand and Vietnam where they can test albeit probably not thousands of tests1 They ALL want some of that factories leaving China action and are tourist dependent These countries are highly motivated to NOT reveal the truth2 Even Hawaii and several US States have no testing kits No way these countries have them3 Add Laos Cambodia Philippines Myanmar Malaysia and Indonesia to the list4 They are all very high density population centerslow sanitation standardssubstandard medical facility countries5 They all have large active sex worker populations that service businessmen and tourists6 It utterly defies logic they are not riddled with hot spots actively growing exponentially7 Fuck|1 Basically yes You can give up your social life or er give up your actual life Do people not get this|1 Your advice to treat fever will be very useful Of course this being a totally different virus the progression of symptoms is very different|1 Just make sure to cook things well above 140F kills viruses and bacteria If your fridge has UV light sterilizer better put in there stuffs that are possibly contaminated And always wash your handsMeanwhile freezing doesnt kill the virus or bacteria they just hibernateinactivate I think thats how they preserve samples in the lab for future use Virus are essentially nonliving outside the host I dont think theres expiration date for that if its well preserved|1 Apart from the rigged voting hacked electronic voting machines gerrymandering voter suppression and corrupt supreme court where the election will inevitably be decided yes|1 Finally some good news|1 Fair enough until everyone gets sick including those who deliver|0 God be with you and your loved ones amen|1 Good Local governments work better Big government screws shit up|1 Dont they deliver groceries where you live I can order anything I need online and have it delivered at my door In quarantine situations it would make sense to leave these services intact|1 Lets all remember that the Founding Fathers were all rich old white guys|1 LOL Our government wont even shut down Petri Cruise ships|1 The fuck is wrong with you Advocating communism You need a history lesson|0 Ebola also required direct contact with bodily fluids so transmission limited spread The Spanish Flu only killed 1020 of those it infected but still managed to kill a few percent of the worlds population The number of people that die after catching it isnt the only factor to consider|0 The nature of a plague is it does develop and spread this quickly It is worsening in exactly the way it would have done if our government was perfect The guys in charge have made it worse but nothing they could have done or not done could have made the situation better There is no cure|1 Oh look a fan following me around Thanks How is this related to anything Dont be emotional|1 The way they are rolling out testing yes it may be only thousands known to be infected This will go down in history as the biggest clusterfuck of Trumps presidency And there have been so so so many|0 At some pointThis could happen within a year or it could happen within two years Which makes a world of difference We just dont know how effective the countermeasures will be|0 Its been noticed that this message is not posted on any of the speculative claims trashing the US or its leaders|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 61000 Americans died from the flu in 20172018 Were you as scared and panicstricken as you are now in 201718|0 hydroxychloroquine sounds like the wonder drug from I Am LegendJust saying|1 Its easily explained by the fact that not everyone is American but everyone that reads this is a redditor I personally doubt that the majority is American in this sub|0 Theoretically yes however we still have a hodgepodge of numbers The average is weighted heavily with data from China which many believe is not accurate Time will tell In the meantime dont worry about your odds take the necessary precautions recommended|1 Good news on that front|1 And thats just Hubei I wonder how the rest of China will look like|1 If you get a sore throat would you want to get tested or just stay home and recover|0 Netherlands has no reported cases yet does it|0 Manufacturing in the US died in 1991 If thats the case its pretty weird how the US manufacturing sector produces more than twice as much now as it did in 1991 sourcehttpsfredstlouisfedorgseriesMPU9900611|0 The death rate worldwide is 4 currently Italy are about 7 Were out of 1 territory only countries like Korea and China who took drastic action early got those figures although Chinas figures are suspect I reckon |0 Hopefully you give him the fork too He must be getting hungry by now|1 Amen to this Think I had it along with my fiance Teladoc said to isolate for 10 days Tomorrow I have to decide whether to return to work after 7 with office colleagues I know are immunosuppressed or have more days without pay or be fired if Im not already Ppl|0 What kind of masks do people recommend here Im chronically ill and dont want to risk getting any worse|0 Even though we ultimately defeated the 19181920 Spanish flu pandemic it was after 50 million had died worldwide 675k in the US The sooner we can take public health actions to help slow the spread of disease the less overwhelmed our healthcare systems will be and the more deaths we can prevent|0 Still coronavirus is easiest to pronounce and thats how most people refer to it anyway|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Ahh yes The good ol deep tissue toilet brush anal swabs|1 In Germany blood donations are unpaid but people get a compensation of around 50 Some poorer folks do it regularly nonetheless to make a bit of money on the side|0 Yall will be light years ahead of us in testing thats for sure The US is dragging their feet like my kids when I ask them to do their choresStay safe brother|1 What the fuck are you talking about|0 Im Italian and I generally agree with your view People here thought it would not get to us but it did Most countries are in complete denial mode right now because they have still no clue how serious this is|0 Yep it literally chews up lung tissue|1 Wait that movie is considered a science fiction comedy not a documentary Still sends the message but its storydriven and not based in reality like an actual documentary would be|1 I cant help but think of the residents and their families and the employees and the employees families friends The pain that is coming from this is far more tremendous than the numbers Its real And its effect really knows no boundsConcerning how rapidly contagious this is among supposedly otherwise healthy employees The uninfected residents must be terrified|0 Laypeople showing all the symptoms are being denied tests|0 yet a few posts down theyre using antibodies from recovered patients to treat the infected with great success Doesnt make sense|1 Yep and people can stare at you and ask you questions Freedom to do as we please in public Stay well|1 Right I wonder if the UK has sufficiently set up protection for most vulnerable before launch this herd immunity experiment|0 Masks are extremely important if you go to a more densed area Pretty much all doctors recommend wearing masks You can still get infected yes for example rubbing your eyes etc But it still offers good protection if someone sneeze or coughAnd staying away from sick people is just difficult They can show only a light symptoms and even without symptoms they re transmitting the virus|1 Thank you I like the worry gauge analogy Very good indeed Yes my mate fortunately is clued in on my waves of panic and when we are home off work at least he can dial me down somewhat|1 35 will die 1015 will be in critical condition needing resourceswith our population count that will overwhelm the resources of the hospitals|0 Woah woah that makes a lot of sense there easy pal Also wouldnt want to lose out economically on all these passengers and stuff like that Think GDP Big picture stuff that ultimately amounts to the wellbeing of everyone s|1 Honestly I find this to be slightly encouraging With only a little luck the less dangerous version could act a bit like an early live vaccine|1 Just look at your degree cert then start a youtube base on that relevant field flip a coin pray your video become popular then you got people asking to to take a job at some important organization|1 The fatality numbers appear to be just for a sample of 155 pateints who died on a particular dayAnyone have the aggregate numbers|0 I dont think its that they expire per sebut they are meant to be disposable I think lots of people are reusing what should be one time masks considering that theres a major shortage You just shouldnt keep a mask or rewear a mask thats possibly been exposed to the virus If its done its job filtering isnt there a chance the virus is somehow on the surface of the outside of the mask|0 why the fuck do all these festivals happen during a pandemic|0 Well he actually said 3 in his testimony but yeah I agree it could be in the 1 range Either number in that ball park will be an epic disaster|1 At a certain point you reach a point of no return where you have to shut down schools borders and public transportation like Italy has or it will spread to nearly everyone I worry that well reach that point within a week or two here in the USOn top of that Im just thinking about how most universities here are on spring break Imagine if just one person in South Padre or Panama City or a ski resort in Colorado has it Theyre spending a week partying likely sharing cups joints etc with people from all over the country and then all headed back to their respective home cities|1 it is not yet clear whyWelcome to the wonderful world of government regulations Especially this from the FDA RNA Preanalytical Systems RNA Collection Stabilization and Purification Systems for RTPCR used in Molecular Diagnostic Testing Class II Special Controls Guidance for Industry and FDA Staffhttpswwwfdagovmedicaldevicesguidancedocumentsmedicaldevicesandradiationemittingproductsrnapreanalyticalsystemsrnacollectionstabilizationandpurificationsystemsrtpcrused1 IntroductionThis guidance document was developed as a special controls guidance to support the classification of RNA preanalytical systems RNA collection stabilization and purification systems into class II special controls RNA preanalytical systems are devices intended to collect store and transport patient specimens and stabilize intracellular RNA from the specimens for subsequent isolation and purification of the intracellular RNA for RTPCR realtime polymerase chain reaction used in in vitro molecular diagnostic testing The device may consist of sample collection devices nucleic acid isolation and purification reagents and processing reagentsequipment tubes columns etc It also may contain instruments for automation of the nucleic acid isolation and purification stepsThis guidance is issued in conjunction with a Federal Register notice announcing the classification of RNA preanalytical systems Any firm submitting a premarket notification 510k for a RNA preanalytical system will need to address the issues covered in this special controls guidance document However the firm need only show that its device meets the recommendations of the guidance or in some other way provides equivalent assurances of safety and effectivenessThe firm must show that its device addresses the issues of safety and effectiveness identified in this guidance either by meeting the recommendations of this guidance or by some other means that provides equivalent assurances of safety and effectivenessThe Least Burdensome ApproachThe issues identified in this guidance document represent those that we believe need to be addressed before your device can be marketed In developing the guidance we carefully considered the relevant statutory criteria for Agency decisionmaking We also considered the burden that may be incurred in your attempt to follow the statutory and regulatory criteria in the manner suggested by the guidance and in your attempt to address the issues we have identified We believe that we have considered the least burdensome approach to resolving the issues presented in the guidance document If however you believe that there is a less burdensome way to address the issues you should follow the procedures outlined in the document A Suggested Approach to Resolving Least Burdensome IssuesSince the HHS Secretary announced this to be a Public Health Emergency all unapproved diagnostic andor detection test kits requires an EUA Emergency Use Authorization approval from the FDA httpswwwfdagovemergencypreparednessandresponsemcmlegalregulatoryandpolicyframeworkemergencyuseauthorization|1 Only takeaway and delivery services will stay open besides supermarkets and pharmacies Also bakeries Stay safe and contact them if you can to prevent them from going to the church since they will remain open aswell|1 That would make me crazy|0 And the epicentrr If it starts at a care facility itll get ugly pretty fast with mild symptoms maybe not even reported yet Id say thats whats happening in my country Who ever has it has mild symptoms so only one who recently traveled went to get tested The rest just wouldnt know they have it|1 The WHO has estimates at 34 currently Your own community numbers will vary by age Italy is seeing higher but has a higher median ageEven if I were to agree that 6x is more where it will lie dont be misconstrue that its just another flu Its on top of the flu 6x more deadly than influenza is still pretty seriousIndeed experts say that in reality the mortality rate is likely to be nearer to 1 or less In other words which is where I get my 10x estimatehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar13howmanywilldieofcoronavirusintheukacloserlookatthenumbers|1 httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhrc0irepkatieportergettingitdonehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhqrj9repkatieportergetscdcchieftoagreetopayhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhpr4xcdcdirectordodgesandevadesquestionshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhnu4prepkatieporterpushesandgetscommitmentforhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhle3bkatieporterholdsthecdcdirectorsfeettothehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhjsm1katieporterdcaciteslawthatletscdcpayforhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhklz5representativekatieporterhighlightsrulethathttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhj2mkliverepresentativeporterfromcajustgotcdcReddit has a search function FYI|1 deaths was 368Thats crazy high already|0 Cat bonds are like insurance The idea of issuing a cat bond isnt to make a return on investment its to transfer away risk The issue is that its really hard for a traditional insurance company to stay solvent if a huge natural disaster occurs usually something like a hurricane or an earthquake They could purchase reinsurance insurance for insurance but the reinsurance market is in general too small to deal with the largest disasters Cat bonds were created as a way to tap into the broader investment market which is larger and better able to handle big disasters in theoryThe idea behind a cat bond is simple just as with regular insurance I transfer my risk to someone else for a fee because risk is a bad thing and costly to deal with Instead of paying a premium for someone else to handle my risk I pay them by offering much higher interest than a usual security If everything goes well no disaster occurs I expect to lose money just as in normal insurance I pay a premium and get no claimthat is the price of transferring away my risk If the fund had a greater expected return than the coupon payments the cost of transferring my risk away would be negative akin to paying a negative premium on insuranceOn your last point it is correct that theyd prefer to just invest money in some fund somewhere which is not a losing proposition But where does that money come from in the first place They could set aside a lot of their own money to keep in the fund but there is an implicit cost to setting aside money for a fund if that money is better spent nowand thats assuming they have enough money to set aside in the first place In this case the money in the fund is mostly borrowed presumably the proceeds of the cat bond sale plus extra to cover the higher coupons Just like with a corporation theyd love to spend their own money retained earnings on investments whenever they can but sometimes they need more money than they have so they have to borrow|0 As someone from Europe I am somewhat confused Do churches in South Korea generally have lists of who attended mass In Germany that is not the case nor did I hear anything similar from other EU countries|0 thanks|1 I got here mid January Ive been called crazy paranoid laughed at by multiple family members and friends who are now callingtexting me with useless info that I already know They didnt want to hear anything but now that it is in front of them they all of the sudden care x200BIve kept my daughter home from school for last three weeks despite my wife saying Im too paranoid and other kids parents asking when is she coming back Ive left the school multiple messages saying she will return once the global pandemic is resolved After a few of those messages there was a rumor going around that we had it Humans are exhausting|1 Im not too sure but that was disgusting I dont see how any of the hosts didnt say something like arent you worried about your daughter|0 Some of the comments on that post on Instagram were so disgusting I had to stop reading because it was making me so angry people were trying to justify going because It is my personal choice the government havent said to not go or they wouldve banned it and The shops are still open so whats the differenceThese idiots are going to be the reason it gets out of control Terrifying|0 Well said|1 Goodx200BHowever what is the legal authority for the governor to take this action|1 Were not at capacity regarding ICUs no matter what you read on international pressPoint 5 of this comment is why our numbers are so high httpsredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfj4o0yfkkxoiacontext1|0 Right but the eastern empires population was reduced 3555 whereas its rival neighbors were fine That was an unprecedented set back economically and manpower wise This is why they lost their richest territories during this time period including their bread basket of Egypt Add constant Gothic Turkish and Roman Catholic meddling over 900 years of trying to recover from that and they never did The Empire kept itself alive by bribe and thats about it|1 Supermarkets and other retailers are preparing for a surge in demand and shoppers are stocking up on staple foods and cleaning supplies as more cases of the new coronavirus appear in the USFor weeks as the outbreak advanced mainly in China retailers focused on maintaining supplies of products they procure from Asia such as tuna mandarin oranges garlic and face masksTheir attention shifted in recent days as cases multiplied from South Korea to Iran and as the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned of a potential pandemic Health officials in Washington state on Saturday reported the first death of someone who had tested positive for the coronavirus in the US Health officials on Sunday reported two additional cases in Washington and a first case in Rhode Island adding to dozens of cases across the countryNow grocers are working to prevent shortages and preparing for a rise in demand for disinfectants hand sanitizer and longlasting items such as pasta and canned food Some are ramping up orders from suppliersThis is like a natural disaster but its an illness said Doug Baker vice president of industry relations at FMI a trade group for food retailersWalgreens Boots Alliance Inc said it has seen greater demand for products including face masks and hand sanitizers at many stores and online Home Depot Inc said it had halted online orders for face masks and was limiting purchases at its stores to 10 per customerOur merchandising and supplychain teams are working hard to replenish these items as quickly as possible whenever inventory runs out in any of our stores a Home Depot spokeswoman saidThe masks known as N95 respirators that block 95 of very small particles were out of stock at many stores in the Chicago area over the weekend as were other basic medical supplies and hand sanitizerSome sellers on the ecommerce sites of Amazoncom Inc and eBay Inc had set prices for masks and sanitizer well above levels that are typical for those products at US stores and websitesOne Amazon vendor advertised a 12pack of 8ounce bottles of Purell hand sanitizer for 12990 or more than 12 per bottle Another was selling a twopack of 8ounce Purell bottles for 4195 Average unit price for US hand sanitizers at the end of November was 206 according to data provider NielsenOne supplier on Amazon listed a 20count box of Equate brand earloop medical masks for 4499 Two 20count boxes of Equate earloop masks were priced at 594 on Walmart Incs website where they were listed as out of stockAnother seller on Amazon had priced four 20count boxes of N95 masks made by 3M Co for 58024 plus 1975 in shipping An outofstock 20count box of N95 masks at a Home Depot store in Evanston Ill was priced at 2147Amazon didnt immediately respond to a request for comment on the pricing of masks and hand sanitizer on its siteAmazon has said it would remove and block items offered for sale on its site where pricegouging is suspected to be taking place Last week the company said it had removed more than one million items from its platform including socalled cures for the illness caused by the new coronavirusKayla DeShon a nanny and a mother of a 3yearold in Highlands Ranch Colo said she stocked up on water rice and beans at a Costco Wholesale Corp store last week She couldnt find hand sanitizer this weekend at her local Walgreens and King Soopers storesMs DeShon 31 eventually bought the last six organic hand sanitizers from the baby section at a Target storeI have super bad anxiety around health and Im a germaphobe Ms DeShon said This is basically the worst thing that can happen mentallyRaleys Supermarkets which operates about 120 stores in Northern California said it is working to increase the availability of hand sanitizer tissue disinfectants and other cleaning and hygiene products The chain said it is in discussions with suppliers to ensure the availability of these products A spokeswoman said Raleys hasnt experienced shortages of any foods it sellsAnother California chain Smart Final Stores Inc said it is taking directions on how to respond to the epidemic from the CDC and trade groups Meijer Inc a Midwestern chain of more than 200 stores said it is focused on maintaining stock in sanitizers and antibacterial wipes Discount grocer Save A Lot said it is working with suppliers to prevent potential disruptions to its supply chainChris Glushko a 45yearold marketing professional in Denver went to his local Target store with his wife on Thursday to stock up on food The couple spent about 250 on canned soup pasta granola bars and other dry foods to last them roughly two weeks They also purchased overthecounter cold medicine and a bag of dried dog food Mr Glushko said he saw other shoppers buying up similar goods and didnt notice a shortage of anything except hand sanitizer on shelvesWere not panicked in the least Mr Glushko said We just want to be ahead of the curve|1 Check out quarantined r wuhan underscore flu|0 This single bit of info is STILL being repeated by the CDC and its the thing that has most panicked me about this I cant believe how much they have lied|0 Ahhhh religion and sky masters It does not look like anything to me snark mode and a bit of West World but these are the times in which we live|0 SO is walmart pharmacist They said no masks They really dont give a shit about their employees They MIGHT finally let them fully staff the effing pharmacy Im really worried about her Not just COVID but the stress is going to be a clusterfuck with how unprepared they are|0 I have no doubt Even incompetence wouldnt last this long Obscure the numbers by not testing and claim containment works That does appear to be the policy of this administrationIf someone gets the coronavirus and no one is around to test it did they really get the coronavirus|0 China had done her best to contain the virus from spreading to the world nation wide quarantine national mobilization free treatment etc What has US done Calling it a big flu Telling people not to wear mask Setting thresholds for tests Its a freaking war going on in China against the monster All people were mobilized and work together to fight it It would have been worse worldwide if China had not slowed down the spread of the virus by such sacrifice You can not thank them for their efforts but dont slander them|0 Droplets that carry the virus fly into ya mouth you cant see then what Too late to be feeling sorry and praying|1 So I did a fun little thing and decided to look up the woman that OP shits all over in this post with lines likeAnd to those who say shaming this person is going to far Fuck you This is exactly what you do when someone comes into your life and fucks your shit up You expose them so they cant do it to anyone else Maybe next time the bitch will think twice before giving it up to a man with a goddamn wedding ring on his fingerhttpswwwwyff4comarticlewomansaysstalkerfalselyaccusedheronhomewreckerwebsite7006398httpswwwwyff4comarticlewomansaysstalkerfalselyaccusedheronhomewreckerwebsite7006398According to a police incident report the woman assisted an Upstate man as part of her job She said the business transaction took a couple of days to complete The woman said a short time later the mans wife began calling emailing and parking across from her place of business She said the mans wife kept insisting she had an affair with her husband She said at one point the mans wife called her place of employment and described what she was wearing at workx200BIm afraid of her and have every reason to be she said She said the pictures of her on Shesahomewreckercom were stolen from Facebook without her permissionx200BThis doesnt give women on there a chance to explain she said It gives people a chance to slander youx200BJust felt like adding this bit because I doubt youll all of a sudden have a change of heart I just want you to know that you specifically actually might be totally deserving of some coronavirus as your karmic reward for a life of being a human virusYou both use and harm other humans to meet your own parasitic and selfish endsYou and Covid19 are sympatico Not only is this the case but it is exactly people like you who got us into this mess to begin with No care for facts or the truth only what you feel despite the harm that comes to others as a result Fuck over anyone and everyone for your own shortterm self benefit at the expense of everyone including yourself over the long termThe only difference is disinfecting wipes unfortunately wont make you go awayx200BFor people who say Im going too far Op said it bestYou expose them so they cant do it to anyone else|0 That is a point of concern A common problem on these ships are passengers bringing aboard their own toilet paper which is not rated for aeptic systems This cause the plumbing to fail and in some cases they back up into the washroom It doesnt happen too often but often enough|0 All the problems you mentioned have nothing to do with my point Outsourcing exists because USD is stronger and US is wealthier Countries that we employ for cheap labor are available because 2 an hour might be enough for someone in south Asia to feed a family This will remain even if we fix all the problems you mentionedI am all for preserving climate and finding better ways of doing things But as long as there is a wage and currency difference between countries it will always make sense to outsource to a cheaper Avenue and made our products more competitive|1 I had a miserable time living there I was a southern boy in a big city |0 Well the majority of them anyway But yea most Americans are incredibly selfish Its not a secret|0 Im not sure where youre getting your information The 2020 budget called for the addition of 29 new staff to a workforce that was already 11195 people strong The CDC doesnt have a pandemic response team They have numerous epidemicpandemic surveillance planning and response teams its the organizations core mission This webpage breaks down statelevel funding specifically for preparedness httpswwwcdcgovcprindexhtmTimothy Ziemer NSC not CDC quit There was no team He was one advisor serving in a national security capacityTom Frieden former CDC Director quit He was replaced by Robert R Redfield hired in 2018Robert Kadlec hired in 2018 holds the role of Assistant Undersecretary of Preparedness Anne Schuchat who has been with CDC for decades is still onboardStephen Redd who has been with CDC since at least 2006 is still in charge of emergency response and runs the EOC and preparedness programsCDCs epidemic and pandemic budgets have been adjusted This includes drastic increases to specific epidemic and pandemic prevention and response programs that far exceed allocations under the previous administrationIf youre interested in actually reviewing the CDC budget proposed and organizational tree you may do so here httpswwwcdcgovbudgetdocumentsfy2020fy2020cdccongressionaljustificationpdfBe sure to pay close attention to the extensive list of permanentindefinite funding authorized by statuteThese are highlights of the proposed not Congressionally adopted budget Presidents dont approve or cut budgets Congress doesIncreases 10 million influenza planning and response directly applicable to coronavirus 200 million HIV intervention increase 50 million opioid epidemic increase 40 million global disease detection and intervention increase directly applicable to coronavirus 500 million in new state and local block grant funding some overlap with coronavirusStable funding 150 million preparedness and response applicable to coronavirusCuts 43 million Food supplyrelated emerging and zoonitic diseases Funding shifted to FDA authority over food supply safety 174 million Occupational health Responsibility shifted to OSHA authority over occupational health PPHF vaccination programs due to increased individual coverage through private and public insurance pools 160 million previous block grant program 38 million overlap with EPA authority 140 million chronic disease|1 They didnt include a link to the source anywhere How are we supposed to fact check a news outlet if they dont reference sources Like alot of this article is quote but they dont say where from|0 Thanks mate Im just really bloody concerned right now|0 Thank you for this Good news are rare these days and acurate information is extremly important A lot of countries are no longer testing people who dont have severe symptoms to prevent a panic over the high case number But I think those countries are simply underestimating the intellect of their citizens Most people who are informed about the topic are aware of what a case fatality rate is and how to calculate it by now Omitting hundreds or maybe thousands of of cases with mild symptoms is simply artificially upping that CFR drasticly Governments should have a little more trust in the people and not shy away from giving us all the informationI personally was very relieved when two days ago news broke that COVID19 has probably been going around in the US and Italy for several weeks now That obviously means that most people are not dying from the infectionGovernments finally have to get it into their heads that most people are way more scared by partial information or misinformation than they would be by having the full picture Especially because governments ommiting crucial information is in itself is somewhat scary|1 It started out with a kiss how did it end up like this|1 Then they would have to admit it was wrong to do this much earlier|0 And he told 30 friends and they told 30 friends dont know if you all are old enough to remember that commercial|1 And even if they somehow got onto a USbound flight its not like entry customs and immigration in the US cant deny them entry and send them on a flight back Its funny to me that people dont understand this|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 To say 16 deaths is an absolute tragedy You realize 150k people die literally everyday With 13rd of that being unrelated to natural causes|0 Every substance is toxic at the right dosage If you dont want kids to use it the response should be to prohibit kids from using it just like kids are prohibited from using alcohol guns cars etc But the fact that some kids use it despite the prohibition isnt a justification for banning all people everywhere from also using itYour last line is obnoxious nannystate bullshit Who annointed you the arbiter of peoples choices and dictator over their behaviour People do all kinds of things that are less than purely healthy including you Im sure Should beer hamburgers motorcycles skydiving etc be banned because you dont approve of them|0 Is the advise thing due to the way anything legally mandated has to go through paraliment and the house of lords|1 Can you do a chubby bunny challenge|1 This is really nice Thank you for putting the time to make itI might be missing something here but when I hover over USA or Canada and click the it just zooms in and everything is blank Am I missing another sign that Im just not seeing I only see a Purple dot giving total casesThanks EDIT nvm im small brain got it|1 Yeah but is the US the type of country that can mandate a lock down or any of these other policies Everyday I feel Im envying the action of other countries while being embarrassed by our own But Im self aware to know that I always get sucked into the big big news stories like 2016 election conspiracies and now corona virus doom and gloom Im a sucker|0 No it didnt Whats our source that this got leaked|0 We fucked Im monitoring from Atlanta Waiting on everyone else to realize what is happening|0 Well better than 20 I guess|1 screeches in libertarian|1 I just dont understand why China would push propaganda on reddit Does anyone here give two shits about the Chinese government aside from permanently hating it|0 Age is one factor in our serious youre affected by this virus You can also have commodities that will make the virus hit you much harder For example underlying conditions smoking obesity etc|0 Im glad to see all our governments are united in not battling this thing and fucking its citizensIm really surprised Europe is taking this stance though I expected more|1 Thats the best case scenario which is now not going to happen because no one is selfisolating|1 Should just be set up to autodelete them and ban whoever posted it|0 I keep hearing be careful to follow the right media alternative facts over here|1 Sounds like more of the latter stress release|0 Please run for DA|1 Nah Covid Jack|0 Can you share this technical with USA Our CDC is a bunch of idiots|1 This should probably be considered biological terrorism considering how ridiculously contagious this virus is tbh|0 Theres no kind of atmosphere|0 Eh but in the other handThe father looked pretty soyish|1 The US has the 37th best healthcare system in the world lol|1 The US is being incredible stupid indeed trying to treat this whole crisis with a flu paradigm approach So far the average moron is like wash ur hands duur I want to smack people|0 Cant speak for others but for me its good news Maybe now the many people I encounter daily who have been flippantly blowing this off and joking about it will finally begin to see this is nothing to joke about We can only hope Rough days ahead|1 Uhhhh yes I live in a apartment area which is relatively new with constant construction Its a old derelict area just on the border of a major city center so is RIFE with drugs and homelessness My building is broken into constantly garage smashed through building entrance smashed through and needles drug remains littered in fire escape stairwells with a fair bit of crime on the doorstep with thievesrobberys Cant remember the last time police101 actually came out to our calls hereBut guns are never the answer Theres no defending it in anyway with the amount of school shootings and innocent lives lost america has due to letting every Jo sod moron have a gun|0 LOL a lot of people in OntarioCanada seem to use WhatsApp|1 LMAO yeah nahhhhhh Thats probably not going to happen Your secretary of state is a rabid sinophobe and much of the population is too you can see them in the commentsOffering help to anyone who views you as an enemy to be destroyed while actively funding separatism in your country for decades is probably the most stupid thing any nation could do|1 I read somewhere that Singapore if i am not mistaken were able to create a test kit that gives results in about 30 min Could that also be a factor in the number changes |1 Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us youre a star I hope things start easing up soon and everyone involved can take a breather|1 No significant disparities in ACE2 gene expression were found between racial groups Asian vs Caucasian age groups 60 vs 60 or gender groups male vs female However we observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smoker samples compared to nonsmoker samples This indicates the smokers may be more susceptible to 2019nCov and thus smoking history should be considered in identifying susceptible population and standardizing treatment regimenTobaccoUse Disparity in Gene Expression of ACE2 the Receptor of 2019nCovhttpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051v1You are correct there is no difference in racial groups in ACE2 expressionAlthough on your second point ACE inhibitors and ACE blockers work on ACE1 and have been shown to increase ACE2 density in the livers kidneys of patients who take them Whether thats true of the lungs or not is unknown at this pointPerinatally administered losartan augments renal ACE2 expression but not cardiac or renal Mas receptor in spontaneously hypertensive rats 2015httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed25766467|1 50 bottles of alcohol gel Keep hold of the bottles when theyre empty The gel can be manufactured fairly easily on an industrial scale but the pump dispensers cant See if you can get a larger container to refill the little pumps|1 The status is whatever Xi says That is why Trump speaks falsely about the crisis in the USA It is trying to emulate its Chinese counterpart but of course it cant|0 This is the definition of stupid Americans|0 It wont humble us unfortunately|1 The flu doesnt make countries lock down a quarter of their population|0 Im actually back in school for nursing This job pays better and pays my entire tuition|1 My aunt is going to paris next week GG|1 C Your place of work is stupid as fuck|0 False He actually defunded planned parenthood which subsequently meant to no free and low cost testing and access to protection methods like condoms|1 Well Im as good as dead then Cant drop 11 BMI in short order|1 Because WHO didnt do shit besides licking Chinas boots|1 Could you please inform me how without posting here specifically I would love to know the vague origins of the lady who sat behind me coughing our whole flight home|1 They stopped testingreporting asymptomaticmildly symptomatic cases earlier in the week|0 Same Im a BIG Mike DeWine Democrat right now He may have literally just saved thousands of lives|1 As of now there are less than 100 confirmed cases in the Southern Hemisphere where it is currently Summer Australia has had the virus since January and they only have 60 cases many of which came from people who had been to China Iran and Italy where it is Winter It is simply not spreading anywhere near the rate that it is in the Northern Hemisphere As long as their are no significant outbreaks in Australia then Im going to feel hopeful that this can be contained in the Summer|1 Thank you GILEAD maker of new antiviral called REMDESIVIR has shipped their drug to Wuhan It was also given to the first US Patient in Washington State and he showed improvement httpswwwspokesmancomstories2020jan31washingtonstatecoronaviruspatienttreatedwith|1 Shout out to federalism Good job on states taking things into their own hands|1 I would laugh in my boss face with that raise|1 Where did you get that number of 5 daysIt takes several hours to get the test result even if you count gathering and transportation of samples to a main lab it shouldt take more than a dayNot to mention china invented a 15minute test which italy should have after getting 30tons of supply from china|1 In China a movie that was scheduled for release on early February was purchased by TikTok and released for free Many other streaming services also ramped up their catalogs I think it would be a good idea for streaming services and movies companies to work for a solution like that|1 I wonder about the age ranges this seems to be affecting maybe more of an incentive for everyone to take it seriously|1 It would be nice to leave politics out of his thread|1 Along with the headlines were getting about the Olympics in Japan being cancelled I used to think that Plague Inc was just a fun game but this gets scarier by the day|1 It does not offer any information on risk of spread from asymptomatic carriers|0 Ive been hearing rumors that if anyone tests positive during the 14 days the quarantine will reset Are you or your relatives aware of whether this is true or false|1 Youd probably be surprised at how many doors are purposefully propped open to allow ease instead of digging out a key broken locks and zero accountability or inventory tracking exist Obviously not everywhere is the same but Ive worked in a major hospital doing basic inventorysupply stocking and I could have filled a backpack full of toilet paper gloves flu masks etc every day for a year and no one would have even noticed|0 I heard it as well supposedly from someone in Ottawa I do think its likely that the LCBO will close Quebec has closed bars and theatres its only a matter of time here|1 I didnt say the Americans took it very seriously China keeping the virus hidden is one thing America not reacting fast enough is another thing|0 Not reallyLook at the bigger picture Economy and TradeGovernment will not close schools Headteachers are making these decisions often with huge backlash Its not that simpleMany parents will not be payed if they take time off to look after their kids and even when sick will often only get 95 SSP People are living hand to mouth this is going to be one of the biggest issuesx200BIm not saying they should or should not close the school I am saying its much more complicated than you are making out Hard decisions are going to be have to madehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb26coronavirusukwillpaidtakesickleavehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb26coronavirusukwillpaidtakesickleave Personally I feel we should stop nonessential travel already its going to happen anyway why not get ahead of this|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Technically speaking mild pneumonia is on the mild spectrum they claim Severe pneumonia requiring hospitalization is on the spectrum for people heavily affected|0 No thats sort of true A child does have immunity In part a baby has whats known as passive or acquired immunity The antibodies they possess are from what they received from their mother in utero It isnt until they are around 2 years of age that they develop a more fully functioning immune system|1 Based on what Ive heard there is 23 hours of human labor for each test Its not just a pregnancy test I think people think that 300000 hours per day of work 150000 tests per day is probably around 60000 trained people plus equipment doing tests While that would be great I dont think it is realistic|1 Yes Im joking about nature but thats mostly what this is about Experts have been indeed warning for years Also people are filthy as f|0 I have about 3 months I think Its not very exciting food though I got a bunch of rice beans pasta a couple packs of crunchy muesli canned soups oatmeal dried and canned fruits some pancake mix dry crackers peanutbutter some water although Im honestly not too worried about that tea bags and vitamins Some other stuff as well to make full meals out of the things I gotI have a small stomach so I just went with the amount I saw was fit for me I dont think you absolutely need 3 months worth What matters as well is how much you can stretch that supply I know I could get at least another month out of mine if absolutely needed by eating smaller mealsMainly stock up on foods that wont expire quickly and that you know youll eat even if it turns out to not get as bad as we all thought I wouldnt dig into your savings If you already have been prepling here and there Id make an assessment on how long you think you could stretch that supply and adjust any further purchases based on that|1 What a disaster now the government is going to see the real panic|0 Im a clinical nursing professor trying to teach my nursing students about COVID19 with updated and scholarly content My apologies upfront if these seem like repeated or obvious questions where can I find a comprehensive list of comorbities that are commonly found with this virus Is there a database from China or So Korea if you test positive for flu does it mean you are negative for COVID19 is the RT PCR for flu the same for COVID19 the Wuhan physician who first reported COVID19 in patients with conjunctivitis and as we are finding out in tear ducts also are we worried that opthomalogist should be donning PPE also how many cases present with COVID19 present with conjunctivitis is there any clinical presentation in the gums Or teeth|0 A troll for every reported death Fuck the CCP|0 I received an email from plumbing code publisher saying risk in the US should be low because of plumbing codes in some parts of China they let you modify plumbing with no permits or inspection So the problem probably came from inadequate plumbing where the trap was removed I am worried because we own a plumbing business so I know how often plumbing is not done properly in the US Try and keep traps wet thats how they do their job and make sure to use licensed plumbers to be on the safe side Dont modify plumbing without knowing code|0 no 110 of the passengers were taken samples from The 31 was just the first batch of test results They are testing almost 300 people Still given the finding i think they are going to test everyone before quarantine end|0 Thanks for the information Appreciate it|1 Kudos for speaking up and putting himself in danger to find out whats happening and to help Both surprising and unsurprising to hear from him Surprising because Japan has always been more advanced in technology and general healthcare and hygiene But unsurprising because Japan has a really bureaucratic culture with high power distance demanding compliance and submission Hope the video sparks off a change in their approach that is clearly not working|1 Its like a judgment on when to call it and go full safety net I really dont want my kids in school at this point because I know its not if its when and thats a hard pill to swallow I have hobby group meet ups too that Id really like to go to this month It really seems like it could be high risk even though there arent any documented cases outside Cincinnati where I live I live 3 miles from Cvg which has round trip flights to Seattle constantly I know its already here Just not documented yet|1 Those people can cut a microfiber towel up or a rag fasten elastic or even just tie a bandanna over their face|0 The word imagery is wonderful Poor mans gold|1 We need leadership A lot of good medicare for all will do if we just keep putting stupid people and sellouts in charge|0 As a prior smoker I quit cold turkey after getting a very bad cold when I was in my early 30s I am in my late 60s now and I never picked up a cigarette again However I am well aware that if I do I could restart all over again so I NEVER will even try one again Addict for life I took it one day at a time I didnt tell anyone in my family I was quitting in case I couldnt stay with it But I did I was a mentholated cigarette junkie I smoke up to a pack a day Because I missed the mentholated part of the cig inhale I decided to suck on mentholated cough drops when I felt like having a cig It helped me a lot It required some preparation just like lighting a cigarette and if I sucked in the air with it it was like smoking somewhat To say it was easy it wasnt The cravings were there for at least a year or so Especially after eating a good dinner or when I wanted to talk on the phone Those were times I used to smoke But I quit and it worked And I know I will NEVER go back to it Good thing is you will save money and put it towards something you really want instead of spending it on cigarettes Reward your not smoking Just do it|1 This is so true same with any fast food if you hardly ever eat there|1 The hope is that school closures and other measures flatten out the curve so that our healthcare system can keep operating But if we look at Italy it doesnt look like we will be able to dampen it enough We should be as aggressive as South Korea if we have any hope of slowing the spread It may be too late|1 No I know On pins already|0 If I would ever bang an old man it would be drjohn campbell hes hot now imagine what he would have been like in his prime ahaha|1 I figure its a top skill of most redditors|1 Im at work right now lmao i work for a utility company so no time off for me|1 In Norway some infected people in quarantine are going to gyms to work out|0 My managerFor those of you who dont know him check him out hes exactly the kind of person you would want coaching your team|1 Thank you for update Does anybody know how many cases the Chinese can test a day in Wuhan How fast are they testing the suspected and observation|1 I came here to say this is why you prep if you can In many cities things changed rapidly with no time to get supplies once the news broke The stores might be open but do you really want to go|0 Thank you so much Her flight leaves at 645 in the morning tomorrow so I think she should be able to make it out|1 Not that easy my friend Food safety is a huge challenge for every country As I live in the US for 5 years I do believe for most people the meat products are bought from huge grocery stores Wholefood Walmart Harris Teeter you name it As a developing country that is the fact and challenge that we are still having so many small markets to trade meat products which raises concerns about food safety and it makes extremely hard to control Most of the time nothing bad will happen but anything bad could end up with a catastrophic ending Same thing like E coli Infections commonly seen in the US|1 This guy is an idiot I cant even watch this type of talk show anymore Too much orange man bad and wokeness Same with the daily show|0 Look at the demography of the majority of mortalities People dying from this are mostly the already sick and elderly those who probably rely on disability and social security benefits Do you think elite politicians making decisions on our behalf have incentive to shut down economic activity in order to save this demography Regardless of how this is dealt with the economy is going to suffer But will it suffer more if we let it run its course take its casualties while minimizing panic or if we go on total lockdown like China to halt the exponential spread I imagine this is the type of costbenefit analysis thats being discussed among governmental officials|0 Thing is that cancelling congresses and the like is gonna be a huge economy hit I will be out of a jobBUT they also dont take it seriously and they never did If they put up signs in the halls stating about hygiene how we wash how we sneeze MOSTLY about the virus and its spreadability the pandemic if we finally use the damn word now things can get better How many of those ppl sneeze in their elbowsLets not mention the understaffed cleaning team where i work themselves are not safe|1 Sounds dangerous As someone whos thinking of getting pregnant jn the next few years no way|0 Doesnt hurt to have a way to defendthreaten if this does happen keep a baseball bat or kitchen knife nearby if you start to feel threatened in general Just raising these things should scare most people off And tell them you know Krav Maga or a martial art lol But I dont think it will get to that point Most stores are still getting restocked just not as quick as we would like Best of luck I used to live and have lots of friends in Cinci|1 I mean no matter what youre getting a bill in the mail if you get sick with this in the US Even if youve got insurance|0 Just from the virus and complications What about all the other people that end up dead because of the hospitals being full A car wreck and the docs cant get to them in time and such|0 My boss said you cant work from home until youve been diagnosed He claims hes read everything blah blah blah He was making jokes about Italy Nevermind the whole idea of limiting the number infected at a time to prevent a shortage of hospital beds and respirators Of course the charity event with wealthy donors was postponed We cant have the rich getting sick|0 Im surprised you havent taken down your predictions postWhy would I Were at the very beginning of this pandemic States like New York didnt even start testing until yesterday The numbers are about to explode You better buckle upIll post an update in a month or so and go through the list of predictions and well see how many of them came true by thenx200Bbecause it has no basis other than citing the CDCs pandemic guidelinesI guess you missed the dozens of links in the text|1 If youre at risk of complications Id consider it|0 We really need their help|1 Imagine your entire public legacy being remembered for how terrible you handled this virus Hello TrumpPence waves|0 Supporting the Democratic Party gave us Clinton as a nominee who is the worst fucking choice you can have Both parties are elitist slop buckets Americans continue to support their favorite trash team out of fear that other slop bucket might win Voting out of fear and often spite has gotten us where we are We deserve this Both sides of the political spectrum caused this Not just one side|1 US administration clearly betting this thing goes away with warmer weather They are probably right but if it doesnt it will go down as the biggest miscalculation in the nations history|1 Well solar does not damage ecosystem The ecosystem does just fine under the panels too actually as have been observed in some plants often to the detriment to the plant itselfWe learned that in California with our massive solar farms that were killing birdsThe number of birds killed are so miniscule its not even worth using it as an argument cats kept as pets kill a thousand times moredisrupting migration routes for animals like tortoises and suchHave not heard about this do you have a link|0 Agreed But in the event the choices are daisy chain or no ventilator for someone who is unlikely to survive without it is that a reasonable risk to take And is the risk only to the members of the daisy chain or is there also nontrivial risk to other staffpatients who could be impacted I honestly dont know about the second one if you do Id appreciate learning more|1 Thats what the CCP is pushing Heres a great video on it httpsyoutubelk5XkhUKMDM|1 The 80 year old is out of the ICU Thats good news|1 Well she said white babies are more beautiful and she said the N word to her son in law very racist She also said I am a waste of breath|0 In some places they didnt restock the shelves so the shelves were still empty|0 The loading doses and prophylactic doses proposed for chloroquine are basically the same as the ones that have been used for malaria for 80 years If it makes you feel better you only need to take it once a week prophylactically because the half life is so long Literally well over 1 billion people have used itBut from here on you should really start linking the evidence for your assertions that the proposed doses are highly toxic to short term users Spreading misinformation without evidence is not responsible even if you think you are doing it in the name of caution|1 The Young Pope Interesting show and Im not catholic|1 Im sorry the sarcasm was implied there lol There are confirmed cases Schools are shut down across the state Yet people were all hanging out today because it was nice out and lets be neighborly|1 He probably wouldve died but for that treatment|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 this is exactly what scares me|0 Get some aloe vera gel and mix them together Using pure alcohol on your hands will severely dry your skin and lead to cracks that provide viruses and bacteria an open door to get in to your system|0 You ppl are literally insane|0 The article Really I would like to read that thread|1 More like being suspicious isnt very unreasonable when you know someones a pathological liar|0 Thanks for replying with facts|1 You think the official count of cases is bad wait til the truth comes out Basically the simplest explanation for their unusually high fatality rate is that they have far more cases than theyre reporting A policy of only counting people sick enough to require hospitalization would be consistent with their death count and the known fatality rate of the disease elsewhere|0 Yes late But it can become more late everyday|1 Do you happen to have a link I looked on their site but wasnt able to find it Ive been reading too much coronavirus stuff online this is the last one I swear and I have a little cold so that hypochondriac voice in the back of my head is yelling nonstop Itd be nice to irrationally go over the symptoms list find the mismatches and declare myself fine None of this is at all productive or scientific of course but hey thats how humans work right|1 Herd immunity is equivalent to letting the virus kill the people Not only does it not help anyone it also increases the risk of infection I think that any government that says such things should be overthrown Why do people set up a government that encourages people to commit suicide|0 For crying out loud WHO exactly is pulling your strings its a pandemic Get over itIts like AA just admit it and then we can get better|1 You mean kind of like this httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiFiveDaysatMemorial|1 We are in Georgia US I know its not like but I feel like my wife had it already back in late January They thought she had the the flu and treated her so 5 days later here fever went from 101 to 103 and she was having hard time breathing She spent two days in the hospital with pneumonia Her cough lingered for about 23 weeks Every symptom Ive read my wife had Besides diarrhea but that doesnt seem common The doctors had no clue what she had but both upper and lower parts of her lungs were covered|0 just saw a pic of a friend who just landed with her husb and 2 kids in a location outside the us i thought i was seeing things some ppls risk tolerance is apparently very very different than mine thats the nicest i can put my feelings|1 Where do i sigh up iv got 2 weeks holiday left|1 On February 12th China had 15000 new cases in one day And now its going to be zero new case one day can you believe itAs you well should know that day is an outlier among all other days Have you researched the reasons why there was such a high number on that one day|1 We are doing online classes in Italy Its not as stressful as going to school but its not as holiday either I think you will eventually do the same Good luck and stay healthy |1 Really depends on the policy but probably not Business interruption insurancecombined commercial insurance has generally excluded pandemics since SARSSome policies will kind of cover it you can buy it specially but its very expensive and I cant imagine any nightclub or pub really would have bothered Some will note that loss of attraction isnt covered so if people just stop going out the insurance company wont pay up Others might state that if a notifiable disease causes shutdown of your premises theyll cover it but thats more The Coach and Horses has been given an enforcement order to close because of a case of coronavirus rather than all pubs are closed because of coronavirusInsurance policies are generally written so its better for the insurer than the insured the house always wins theyre betting on you not needing insurance which is how they make their money If theres lots of businesses endangered by the pandemic the insurers would have made a contingency plan to avoid themselves going under from having to pay too many claims|1 Can this guy talk about the Virus response without sucking his own dick about travel bans|0 Personal opinion here but I think an end tally closer to the swine flu is a reasonable expectation This is not 1918|0 A switch is like a small thin branch Hurts like hell when you get whacked across the backside with one|0 China has been known to build extremely quickly and proficiently especially when using prefab materials like they are using nowAnd China has hundreds of cases of structural failures in construction projects annuallyHell the Banqiao dam failure killed two 230000 something people from cutting corners with the soviets during the construction 5070 years later and they are still screwing stuff up by cutting corners like in the much more modern examples I linked many of which the Chinese government reported themselves|0 So all thats required is mass testing and socially responsible behavior Yea the USA is fuuuuuuuuucked|1 I personally would like their generation to die sooner rather than later|0 Yea it did that in the fall of 1918 When it came back after the summer But it started in winter 19171918 The peak of deaths was October 1918 Look no one is reading this so I dont care if you agree or not The information is easy to find|1 I do not get where the downvotes come from but he is right Religion is made by people believes that we are not superior and that something is controlling us and oh its such a good guy who controls it The story of mosef or something still makes me think The water moved away opening a lane This is possible if someone who was smart back then used magnetic polarity to move the water from a to b The rest is just uttered bshit Look i respect that you guys believe but come on is there a single god who would abandon you like a child who threw away her teddy bear because it was dirty and mommy couldnt fix it See reality And no this is not a path made by god but by our governments by allowing us to die Just search wuhan news on this subreddit and you will know enough|0 Mostly fair point and I dont disagree but Thanksgiving dinners get all cray because extended family members who dont have much in common are forced in cramped quarters this will typically just be close family members you already live with|0 The total dead is globally Only 3000 people died in China not 7916|0 The problem is that most countries only have hospital beds for 12 of their population at any given time and historically 20 of those infected with COVID19 need hospitalization 20 of 70 is 14 so thats 1213 of the population that would need to be hospitalized but cant be because of lack of beds A majority of those people that dont get hospital beds when they need them will probably die100 the scariest part about this whole affair|0 Youre absolutely right but I would say right about his hardcore supporters They have shown time and again that they will believe anything he alone says even if there is absolute evidence that something is a lie Those people are lost They were lost before Trump ever came along He just gave them a voice However he didnt win by his hardcore followers alone Even among them Ive seen this virus fracture some of their beliefs about him Ive interacted with some here on Reddit and others in rl who have started to see things in a new light with his handling of this epidemic Anything short of this calamity they may never have been able to break their idolatry of him but for some it has We may have seen through him this whole time but for them its the sudden awakening when they hear his words contrasted with puctures of the infected His political price wont be because of his followers seeing the light though Too many will go right to the bottom with him joyfully Its the people who supported him tenuously at best willing to put up with his violations either because of a lesser of two evils mentality or because he got them orher things they wanted This is about to get very real People are dying and the administration is fumbling every chance they get because their only strategy ever is to doubledown on Trumps beliefs You can give people every policy they want and it wont matter if they their kids parents or friends are dead and it couldve been somewhat mitigated had the president not been such an utter and complete buffoon why surrounded himself with fools who only endlessly praise him No one way or another there will be political consequences to all of this Trump was manageable as long as the country was on autopilot but now that were going to potentially go off a cliff people are waking up to just how dangerous someone like him at the helm truly is|0 Ha cheeky canuck Take my upvote|1 yeah obviouslybut I was responding to someone claiming walking a dog is a huge risk which implied they live in an urban city so I suggested ways to mitigate risk while still walking the dog|1 The containment window is already over and US could be as bad if not worse than the top infected countries|0 Thats pretty dumb The only reason its plateaued in China around 80000 is because of their draconian quarantine If America doesnt follow suit its going to get fucked up really fast|0 His response is pissing me off|0 Trump did not tell people to go to work sick He simply said most of the people will have such a mild sickness that they wont notice or think twice about their symptoms and will go to work Hell most of those people wont even consider themselves sick|0 Again making a lot of incorrect assumptions Im not going to waste my time trying to convince you though because it seems like a waste You clearly have your head way too far up your own ass Please crawl back to whatever car subs you use to validate your shitty opinions|1 Did they forget to tell the virus its been contained|0 Yes now that you point this out I realize I was stupid for not immediately recognizing that the CDC is not in CanadaEDIT I see some downvotes so maybe this is being interpreted as me being rude to the person who corrected me Im not Im genuinely owning my foolishness P|0 Emailed my daughters doctor the other day because she was due for shots update of flu booster and dtap final shot and doctor said stay home This was Providence She said they are trying to screen people for coughs and fever but they are getting through the cracks|0 The virus kill two percent of those infected We actually dont know the death rate at all 2 is probably way too high as China is massively under reporting cases 2 would be disastrous and its not what we are seeing in other countries|0 20 of people that get this need hospitalization Its really not that fucking low at all Young people are still at risk Pneumonia is one of the mild symptoms you could potentially get which can and does cause permanent damage to peoples lungs My 26 year old little sister who already has lung damage from pneumonia and suffers from other issues She would die from this Fuck off|0 What a dumb comment|0 Entry ban certainly would have increased complexity and put off many travellers Theres no perfect blanket protection against an epidemic|1 Asset seizures will skyrocket asmost think thry are infallible and dont think things like this would happen in their life timesThe entire no masks enjoy your flights cruises approach has felt sadly like a plan to let the elderly perish en masseUnfortunately incompetencs fueled by ignorance of science and math cant be ruled outIm sure as health experts explained the mortality demographics and economist chipped in how much thryll save on benefits long term and these idiots thought it was a grand idea and killed off their voting demographic|1 Thats why if you slip up and forget to wash your hands and touch your face or get too close to someone coughing dont just go oh well Im infected fuck all that precaution now Keep washing keep practicing social distancing and dont just give up|0 Some people arent going to believe it until they see riots at hospitals and bodies stacked up in their communityIts a lot like how scientists struggle to get people to take climate change seriously Except happening in weeks instead of years|0 The guy has been dead for probably days by the looks of it man I didnt read lose it was this bad in wuhan|0 The gastroenterologist died|0 That was known over a month ago happy mainstream news picked it up|1 Star Wars imperial march played in my head watching this|0 If you read enough history youll find that people have always been like this Especially those that have never been through hardship In the past the stories generally go something like Bob was laughed at and mocked by Jim for packing up and moving when the volcano started rumbling A month later when Bob came back he found Jims charcoalized remains|1 The first batch was bunk They tried to get far more test kits out there but that effort failed The next batch should be rolling out this week and extensive testing should begin shortly|0 It is worth being clear that the two are unrelated as this guy was a former ambassador|1 This subreddit has been recommended multiple times but rcovid19 is full of research and is not full of sensationalist articles Although it is very hard to understand some ok most of the terms lol you should easily just be able to ask for a summary of the research done Be prepared not panickedEdit should mention that sometimes false info is posted there but commenters seem to quickly debunk the info|1 I havent checked but Id imagine its sold out there too Hand sanitizer and masks seem to be the only thing people have been stocking up on at least in my area|1 Ugh This My literal bro is trying to convince me to go to Vegas with him No way in hell am I even thinking about going into an airport|0 You reap what you sow as a nation China censures and misleads information to its people so they dont trust the government which can be catastrophic in situations such as thisThe US health care system needs to be set fire with a match and rebuilt from scratch Obama tried to put bandaids that Trump and the GOP has no interest in fixing just ripping off You keep keep doing that long enough you have the mess OP described above where a pandemic could flourish because people have no recourse for being sick|0 Have you or a loved one been diagnosed with mesothelioma|1 I definitely think some people are overreacting and selfquarantining unnecessarily In the coming days I think some people will loosen up but I think others will double down and it will affect their mental health So we need to prepare for that too|1 And you can down like my comment all you want Fact is unless youre growing your own food and own a goat or cow youre gonna be up shit creek when industry collapses Good luck finding food when there are no workers in the processing plants Hope everyone owns a chicken or two cause there wont be any eggs either Nobody to truck them to the stores And the pharmacist who dispenses your medications Shes not at work cause shes at home caring for her child who cant go to daycare|1 Thats what Chinese people were dead sure of a month agoStill kinda surprised to see the rest of the world governments driving towards the same dead end|0 Dont you guys also have facilities run by FEMA for events like this Or was that just a conspiracy theory|0 Oh ok Thats fair|1 We have idiots who run the country plus a few idiot governors of States They are all connected via airports and conferences that broke people never attend Hell we do not even have adequate housing|0 They are drinking cow piss apparently|0 Yes exactly People dont seem to realize that the 1 in 5 severe cases is the most terrifying part absent proper medical care Imagine if the hospitals become quickly overwhelmed A lot of people are going to succumb to pneumonia and other complications due to lack of adequate treatment We dont yet know the death rate for severe cases without medical treatment because most of them have been taken care of so far|0 Someone was in here a couple of days ago from Philadelphia saying that she was sick and they refused to test her because she wasnt sick enough We have only 4 million tests being shipped out and we have 300 million people in this country We dont have enough oxygen to get everyone who has the potential of being sick at the same time because of the incredibly shitty way were handling it We have no government Our government has been dismissed and not replaced|0 Yeah until the government decides to end this period and add capitalized interest on top of any existing interest Nice try|1 Nontech people such as myself who work in offices are still going to work and hoping we dont run out of hand sanitizer Were also hoping other people are washing their hands but I literally just heard someone in the restroom exit the stall then walk out without hearing any water running Disgusting|0 My grandsons blended school just announced they are closing for the year and going totally online They are in the northern part of Fulton countyIt was easier for them since a lot of their learning was online anyway They planned this last week but they didnt expect it to have to happen this quick As they said better safe than sorry|1 Good question I think some banks let you take a picture of the check to deposit it Ive seen ads like that Does it work No idea|1 Keep calm and contract corona|1 Not offended in the least Lolly yes i am British and what will be will be A bit of humour never killed anyone x|1 So original|1 But I gave you people 2 sources lmaoAnd I never said vitamin c is not safe I said its not safe in a long run and only take them WHEN YOU ARE SICK Did you just log in with 6 accounts just to downvote me xD Impressive|0 Good to see comments in this sub differ significantly from the proCCP antiUS sentiments in other subs|1 Lets be okay with Winnie the Flu though alright|1 Yes Money isnt everything|1 FYI the sequel to Train to Busan called Peninsula is coming out in June if it isnt delayed because of the virus|1 Is there tabulated day by day information of case reports for italy usa perhaps the states themselvesIve found many charts and images but id like to have the actual numbers to put into a spreadsheet|1 One of my school friends just came back from Vacation he was on a Norwegian Cruise Lines ship He now has fever coughs like never before and a sore throat Its a good thing that he didnt come back to school|1 Yep same boat heremy dad is 73 going through chemo and refuses now to believe this thing is real After talking to him yesterday I couldnt sleep all night I live a few states away and Im starting to realize theres a chance I might not see him again|1 Well thats a bit rude I did in fact read itProblem is you read it but didnt absorb the informationYes makes them more susceptible to the infection severity hence the treatment regimen It does not have a link to infection unless people are passing cigarettes aroundUse your noggin|0 Washington state has 2 physician DNAR Which means if 2 docs agreethat resuscitation of a patient would be either futile OR a risk to hospital staff patient directives can be ignored|0 Theres still a delay at the border in BC There are Canadians crossing to the US and a trickle coming back I highly doubt that those people plan on to self quarantine|0 Ok so two hours I mustve been recalling a stat on the flu or something idk|0 Congress grants the ability to the Director of the Dept Of Health and Human ServicesHHS via the commerce clause to shut down interstate travel of infected or suspected infected people at the Depts discretion With this virus youd be an idiot to not consider everyone a suspected infected personThey dont need martial law to completely lock down interstate travel not at all They dont even need to ask or get approval Its already universally granted|0 There needs to be a lawsuit|0 Its hard to classify it as fearmongering when we dont know what the total number of infected in the city isAll we know is that weve hardly tested anyone and the official number of infected statistically speaking is highly unlikely to be accurate|0 More like next week or later today after the stock market closes Once we get test kits its going to blow up Possible that people are going to start dying next week I hope not but its very possible its almost been 2 weeks|1 When Tom and Rita Hanks were confirmed it was like a switch went off in the boomers I know From planned European trip to self isolation in a day Tom Hanks casually saving my familys lives|1 I mean it makes sense to be honest but they need to give a general idea of the area imo just for awareness i completely understand the anonamity thing though theres a reason a lot of big lotto winners remain anon pick up their check and move within a few months x|1 Dogs is another issue Thats more about culturalconflict than public health mumbling Dog as food is more popular among South Koreans than among Chinese though |1 First things first CoronavirusLets focus on the issueCDCs fups merit an entire devoted episode that Im sure they are working on|1 research and technical cooperation functions including disease eradication and emergencies So yeah just because I didnt write a paragraph doeant mean I dont know or if it is a rant mods can decide to remove the post All I know they kept praising china and did nothing from my 2 month observation|1 Would you like to live alone or die with people you loveIm not a Italian but I sort of understand it But Im certain that ill be downvoted|0 If you asked the worlds most brilliant virologist this question theyd be wise enough to tell you they dont know the answer yetIf you ask a Reddit thread youre going to get bullshit answersVery well spoken|1 Ostriches with their heads in the sand dont like to be disturbed My husband is the same way He would rather not acknowledge it I on the other hand want all the information I can consumer so that I am prepared for the best or worst case scenarios It is what it is|1 Point 6 on this stickied post with 4K uovoteshttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsexe552coronavirusfaqmisconceptionsinformationfromautmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf explains the entire issue why China doesnt report every death as due to the coronavirus Its not some elaborate coverup its only due to the failings of how the Chinese medical system reports deathsI hate the CCP and their actions but lets not forget about information thats less than a week old|0 Like the video of Chinese woman spitting on lift buttons|1 Yeah sarcasm doesnt come across well online sometimes Oh well|0 Thats not as big of a concern if you take China Italy as a precedent Supply of ag product never seemed to be an issue The point is it cuts down the of trips you have to take for grocery shopping and risk exposing yourself at the height of the epidemic|0 Im right there with you Im 27 and started smoking at 16 now essentially an ex Smoker besides the very occasional drinkparty with friends I started at a pack a day for years and gradually tapered down The last few months I was at a cigarette maybe every other day then only once or twice a week and just one To not smoking when Im alone not in my car on the way to work nada I found always having a pack of cigs in my bag weirdly comforting and helped me to smoke less for whatever reason It was very very gradual but now I dont have a pack and dont smoke but once in a blue moon and only sociallyYou totally got this Be gentle patient with yourself |1 No|0 They should have shut for the day My school once closed for the afternoon due to no running water|0 Some stuff here httpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41587020000022more a history of available tests I tried wiking a bit feel free to add httpsenwikipediaorgwikiCOVID19testing|1 Too many people have been snarky when comparing it to the flu so most redditors are now conditioned into downvoting even when its a reasonable comment The flu kills just not at nearly the same levels and it also is worse for the elderly and those with compromised immune systems or lungs Fuck Ive worked in a care facility during a flu outbreak and its brutal Its basically a yearly winter culling of old folks|0 Looks like this crashed BNO|1 Yep this is my concern they cannot eradicate it and they cannot keep the lockdown going until a vaccine is found what will they do I suppose slowly reduce lockdown measures and perhaps reintroduce them as needed Although it seems that we could have done a full lockdown then afterwards moved towards herd immunity in more controlled manner|1 I am seriously fucking tired of doctors refusing to test people|0 I hope youre joking|1 The GPU main skill is running things in parallel but this leads to problems when trying to do a sequential math equationBut you can work on to unrelated problems using it|0 Another strange detail of the first 400odd cases in Wuhan not one was a child 15httpsmobiletwittercomLaurieGarrettstatus1222671104612950016|0 Its too late for Greenland but Madagascar is safe|1 Nice|1 Definitely having that thought Add to that no sick pay and no housing benefit meaning theyll keep going into work till they drop so itll keep spreading Their society is brutal pure darwin survival of the fittest|0 And now those ventilators are obsolete technology by 17 years Better than nothing tho|1 Also smoking insane amount of smoking combined with shitty hygiene pollution easily dead by even the normal flu let alone the coronavirus|0 Nah We wish our government wasnt run by idiots and think they should have made better decisions 4 weeks ago Im proud of China for doing this and we all need to be better people and be more kind|1 Show the symptoms fever coughing shortness of breath test negative for any other viruses like the flu and have been to an area of known infection None met the locality exposure requirement But I had a sporting event in Pottsville PA on Saturday and Newark DE on Sunday Specifically was at University of Delaware where there are now 4 confirmed cases as of today|0 CA governed just stated that parents should PLAN for schools being out for the rest of the year He didnt say it is for sure just that it could happen People are freaking out and saying we just need to take it a week at a time Damned if you do damned if you dont I guess|0 Because the actual number of infected in China is likely in the millions They under reported a whole lot of cases due to outright number fudging and also restrictive case definition|0 Its the worst part of disasters like this We often lose some of the most courageous and conscientious people because of their courage The same thing that makes them special|1 I agree but China is a 3000 year old civilization how does a race a like that survive for over 3000 with still retaining its territory and if not have even more territory than before and what happened to those people that use to live there before Just saying not trying to be a jerk or know it all|1 And bring coronavirus back with them Not a good idea|0 This helps prevent the spread of the virus by ensuring that we can find out who has it no matter their financial situation|1 I agree It seems to have first originated in the US from the west coast But with places like airports and hotels the virus is free to roam CA NYC NJ CHI LV and more will be hit hard|1 Summer is coming warmer temperatures might help reduce transmissionThe data we have in China and Singapore doesnt seem to support that We might get some relief due to less dry upper airway mucosa after the end of winter|1 US testing is actually picking up nowMN just closed down their driveup testing stations because of lack of tests and put extra restrictions on who gets tested|0 Yes here we meal plan toilet paper This meal should only use 15 squares|1 What a sad state of affairs|0 Yeah my friends dad just waits for down turns to buy up big office buildings that go vacant for super cheap He sits on them until the economy gets better and flips them for huge profits Hes been doing this since the 80s and is a multimulti millionaire|1 Im going to start it up soon Ive had a busy day and only caught the 15 min clip Im intrigued to see what he has to say Ive been following this closely since we saw what happened in Wuhan Dr Campbell has been doing such an Amazing job and I hope people can open their eyes to Rogan too Weve all know this was a global issue for so long|1 Here is the thing at this point the test wont matter for him because there isnt medication to cure for this virus Lets assume he has it your hospital would most likely send him home anyways as he isnt having breathing problems They need those beds for the people coming in that are going to he worse He is a normally healthy young man under 60 If he starts having breathing issues then the story changesI live in Seattle Washington We are have been dealing with this for weeks now so in a way I can kinda see your future I have seem some people buy a pulseox monitor from amazon for like 20 brcause of this If that oxygen level drops too low that is trouble Otherwise as frustrating as it is yeah it is super frustrating as this point you need to manage symptoms and self quarantine yourself as well and anyone else he has had contact with We have had weeks of lies about being able to get tests and still we cant get them|0 Nothing like a little gallows humor to remind us that were living in the best country in the world|1 You can watch on their facebook page but the sound quality is pretty atrocious httpswwwfacebookcomsccpublichealthhttpswwwfacebookcomsccpublichealth|1 Its not like low income workers who are out of work due to covid19 are going to get back pay when they go back to work|0 It is a problem of our culture is it not We must learn from it and grow Why else would we eat bats Because it is ingrained in our minds culturally The only reason this is a part of our culture is because of our government enabling it so Im not being racist You dont understand what racism is|1 I read the article and the CDC said they would increase screening at airports with the most flights to China but the CDC did not say they would screen all passengers from China|1 Best one I have heard yet|1 Well for one they do not have them available for purchase anymore anywhere But they typically dont stock reusable masks in bulk in hospitals because they require significant decontamination between uses Keep in mind healthcare workers are exposed to high viral loads and direct splashes of droplets If not 100 properly decontaminated they have a very high risk of infecting themselves via the maskConsider during normal healthcare use workers would use a mask on one or just a few patients then throw it away So disposable masks make sense for 9999 of the time In the rare case of a pandemic they leave it on all dayand they need way more of them The half and full masks can be disinfected but workers need proper training on itand it also takes time Additionally they are only really allowed to use respirators theyve been fit tested for If a healthcare worker uses a new type of mask that doesnt fit properly its very dangerous|1 I think you are ascribing intent that isnt actually thereMost people have never had practical experience with SARS so using it as a benchmark is meaningless and abstract for the lay man People who are tasked with informing large audiences do their best to make the information as accessible to the common manIts pretty cynical to assume that career health professionals have such devious intentions|1 SPOILER ALERT It was carried to Italy by either a Chinese person who was in Italy for unimportant reasons or by an Italian who went to China for unimportant reasons|0 It really is vile but perfectly in line with the thinking of the UK Conservative Party|1 Italy had the correct response Stay safe folks we got this|1 This is actually pretty cool technology It could be used by airlines as well|1 Sounds like a good plan|1 This guy should be locked up in a room with with someone that has tested positive and only given food water and his own cure|1 Developer here What would you like to see next I think it should be something like new cases in the past day|1 about timechina can develop 4H type networks to sell smaller scale raised cattle pretty sure they have large scale commercial stuff already but only to proper butchers and be surprised how safe it staysespecially with turtles if they want to eat turtles raise them in china|1 My whole body aches and I have a migraine because its time for my routine medical massage and Im still staying home Sacrifices people make them|0 My point is you are trying to blame Trump by naming him whereas in Canada they did even less under Trudeau The only way to stop it would have been to ban all flights from everywhere and all international shipments of everything the moment China announced the coronavirus So go blame your orange leader in one of your lefty circle jerk subreddits its not needed in here|0 My friend got the email from them about a week ago now They gave them a full refund 10 off the next cruise in 2021 and 300 to cover cancellation of flights for each of them Said they werent doing any the rest of the entire year|1 blood draw can easily be 500 out of pocketWhat How|1 Nah I blame our lack of medical care and social safety net for the spread|1 Im a stay at home dad my wife is a nurse and I do the laundry as soon as she gets home she takes off her scrubs and they go directly in the wash I usually use tideBleach detergent never really had any problems before so thats what Im stick to|0 Not yetIs it any good|1 Then you have children home alone A bus driver going alone into those homes Yeah nothing unsafe could happen there|0 Blame it on democrats or Biden or some other bullshit He shouldnt be able to he will have even more blood on his hands but his base wont care|0 My husband cant work from home And hes saying Im paranoid about this|0 Could you please let us know why the CDC stopped reporting testing numbers|1 Im a student teacher My original end date for student teaching was 521 Going 4 months without pay is tough but now its been extended an extra month and a half at least|1 Impossible to say Some private hospital ICUs are almost closed by Sunday evening when the last elective postsurgery case is out Generally they are full in big referral hospitals but its a matter of triaging who gets in and who needs to be discharged to stepdown or maybe the CCU or something elseWeve previously scrambled to build a new ICU outpost in emergencies we once converted a small cardiac unit to a small ICU with ventilators and ECMOs after a mass poisoning|0 Maybe if people stop being doomers we can stop calling them doomers|0 NoI have a really hard time believing that|0 Companies also need enough internet and server bandwidth for remote working Most are not capable of this|0 Im the same as you I think its just in my head but working retail at the same time has be paranoid with it also|0 Unfortunately its largely just too early to tell in any direction Children have been exposed far more often and for far longer so we just have more data for themI would imagine its predominantly a combination of the heat poor reportingtesting and long incubation times flu is 04 days this is 014 days All that together means there likely hasnt even been enough time yet for the first cases to properly develop symptoms and even then its usually a couple days before someone is hospitalized and could be considered for confirmation Considering this is spreading like wildfire through Washington hospitals Im terrified of what thisll do to subsaharan Africas meager healthcare infrastructureHaving said that for the sake of the human race by all means please be immune to it for herd immunity for the rest of us|0 Good find thanks|1 But the caps are missing and put at least 3 micron filters all sealed up to actually breath|0 Exactly the same here I said give it 2 weeks None of them took any notice now Im concerned they may have soon get sick What can you do It upsets me but on some level I can see I tried my best Cant help worrying I should do more to convince them to be more cautious though|1 Well I doubt that will happen but it sure is possible that some will have some long lasting bad side effects|0 Its really not the time for this political bullshit And the tone of your post makes it quite clear this is politics dressed up as concernBy all means critique the response but dont cherrypick half the response to scream Tories baaaad money1 and culling the sick it doesnt help anyone We get it you hate Boris Johnson Brexit and the horse he rode in on but playing to your peanut gallery of political buddies really isnt adding to the debate Take a step back and consider whether youd be willing to accept any plan put forward by the current government If theyd closed schools and put the country in lockdown last week it still wouldnt have been good enough but then the criticism would have been too draconian no support for small business|0 Thats fair This relieves my concerns a bit except it doesnt seem that my countrys government is taking this very seriously and the incubation period is pretty long Wouldnt take much effort for one person to travel to a high density area|1 Your posts are actually pretty misleading|1 People dont seem realise the politics that go on behind the scenes in an global organisation like the WHOI can barely tolerate the office politics at work so I cant imagine what the head of the WHO would have to contend with|1 Wait if we assume that there are five generations doesnt that mean that the r0 is somewhere around 8 Nah that cant be true|0 Gotta be realistic the virus doesnt care about your feelings|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh9pacchinaisnowsendingdoctorsmasksandhazmatfka6tebcontext3 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Abdolutely notA crusie ship creates totally different circumstances Its basicsally a closed box with people living in very close proximity It s an ideal place for such a contagious vorus to spraead and this was alrready expected as we have discussed about it here httpsoldredditcomrnewscommentsezo8xncoronavirusmegathread2fgs6lkgcontext3Look at the timestamops and you can see this was predicted to happenIn a city the conditions are totally different and this is not going to happen in a cityYou are fearmongering You should stop this kind of misinfo and fearmongering nonsense|0 Good Colorado was my favorite state during my Serivce|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rkerala High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID19httpswwwredditcomrKeralacommentsfi5fwvhightemperatureandhighhumidityreducethenbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Sure Ill agree with them once I can see for myself the math that calculates 23 mortality rate Until then with a lot more people dead than recovered Ill use my current prediction of an unknown mortality rate Its ok to have different opinions neither of us are likely to budge|0 Thanks for letting us know Good luck and keep us updated on how the situation is and how youre feeling|1 We dont even have enough PAPR those are restricted as well|0 Really That is insane|0 Heard a friend of mine was just pulled home from deployment Said a bunch of his buddies were too Things are happening Id also expect the US to take advantage of infected countries to conduct military operations while everyone is staring at coronavirus|1 I sure hope you are right I dont know how many people would take dangerous work over a free hand out though|1 Maliciously decide to not test then make it appear to simply be incompetence Classic move taking advantage of Hanlons razor and peoples gullibility|0 Sadly its not even prophetic at this point Am already seeing it happen here in Sweden now as more people are becoming aware of the gravity of the situation|0 I have a feeling Patient 31 was inevitable|1 do you have a source would like to read about this|1 I consider the CDC or your countrys version of it page on COVID19httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml and their frequently updated situation summaryhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsummaryhtml to be a reasonable information source right now I might not get the cutting edge updates every second but the updates available there are likely to be based on verifiable data and not guesswork from internet rumors Im avoiding twitter and a bunch of the social media sites because the info overload was just too stressfulThe reason Im relatively calm is that so far it looks like this disease isnt particularly unusual It spreads in the same manner coldsflu do its more serious for older people its more serious for people with some medical issues washing my hands can help slow the spread of the virus its not particularly weird Its new and that is a concern but its a new strain of a familiar type of virus coronavirus which means were not starting from scratch and thats a big plus Im 38 Ive lived through tw for general mentions of scary stuff the WTC bombing in 93 the Olymic Park Bombing Ruby Ridge Waco the Oklahoma City Bombing 911 the 2001 Anthrax Attacks SARS MERS the Beltway sniper Columbine Virginia Tech Sandy Hook the Pulse Shooting the Boston Marathon Bombing economic downturns earthquakes floods hurricanes blizzards and a lot of other scary moments Many of those situations were serious and caused social andor economic disruption in the short term but none of them were the end of the world People go to work kids go to school grocery stores and pizza places exist I still cant afford to buy groceries at Whole Foods life has continued This is a scary time but well get through|0 People like hospital workers and people stocking shelves have to get to work Theyve been running subways and buses on full time schedules no cut backs in service even though with schools out and lots of workplaces closed ridership is down something like 70 This means that it is very easy to keep social distancing as subway cars and the like are nearly empty right now And everything sanitizable is being sanitized transportation workers have gloves and masks as do many of the riders|1 Side note supposed to travel to Taipei in early April for a week for holiday Are touristy things still open Think its ok to take a 7year old there|1 Then what in the world would cause shaking like that|1 Whats going to happen to the economy if 1 in 5 people get a 30000 hospital bill for a 2 week stayWhats gonna happen when people are dead|0 Unfortunately we didnt use a travel agency so I guess we would have to call hotels and the airline individually as the date gets closer|0 Not yet I wish they wouldNorthshore school district Bothell suberbs and some private schools in Kirkland Bellevue have closed Bellevue school district and Lake Washington school district are still open|0 Why do people love to regiment children like cattle|1 Stay safe|1 The Dow literally hasnt been this low since February 2017 This is only 95 points higher than when Trump took office and its only getting started I feel bad for how many peoples retirements and jobs are going to hell in a handbasket in all this|0 13 death rate if everyone is infected would results in millions of deaths Even ww2 was less deadly for them|0 Lol were all fucked At what point do we start seeing the repercussions of this travesty|0 Holland went from 3 to 500 in like a week|1 Exactly and huge difference|1 Porra Bozo no fode a gente pfv|0 Man House would hate this Getting pulled away from his medical mysteries to treat the same bilateral pneumonia again and again and again|0 When I say if were gonna die we might as well go out laughing at the thing killing us this wasnt exactly what I meant|0 Agreed chinaflu ruined my mental health In these times I feel clinging on to hope doesnt make you panic|1 Would this be triage and rationing and what happens when containment fails|0 I think thesehttpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3871594 are their mistakenly reported real numbers So theyre not reporting the real numbers which also are unable to be accurate due to insufficient testing kits httpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3871594|0 Trump isnt taking these measures its other people telling him to take measures Since He did it im sure it benefits him somehow other then how its benifiting everyone else|1 BNO is a relatively small Team They do a fantastic job in reporting Since they are only humans they need sometime a break|1 How does that make sense You think he should stop being his friend if he gets coronavirus SFP|1 First of all sorry if Im mistaken as I dont know much about modern politics and economy So feel free to correct my Ill be most grateful1 We see Trump trying to make German company to move to US to make the coronavirus vaccine only for the US Im curious what will happen if he succeeds and I hope to see what will happen if he doesnt Am I right to suppose that if vaccine is sold to US exclusively then a Chinese never see it b every country who wants a chance to get it will have to support Trump in every way possible including participation in his trade wars2 On a side note as far as I understand any trade with Iran is severely hindered by sanctions Let the Human Rights Watch speakhttpswwwhrworgreport20191029maximumpressureuseconomicsanctionsharmiraniansrighthealth intead of me the overbroad and burdensome nature of the US sanctions on Iran has led banks and companies around the world to pull back from humanitarian trade with Iran leaving Iranians who have rare or complicated diseases unable to get the medicine and treatment they require Its especially ironic considering the fact that it was US who supported the Iranian Revolution and now we have what we haveWanted to make it a separate topic but it was removed|1 Yeah its a UK professor that got doxxed|1 Obviously now that the titanic has hit the iceberg everybody and their mother is yelling The fact is that the iceberg was there for at least three months some folks Bill Gates would argue five years The truth of the matter is that the administration did not acknowledge the 90 portion of the iceberg that was submerged as our ship was inevitably going to hit it That being said why cant we constructively critique the captain of this shipAn ounce of prevention beats a pound of cureI think history will not be delusional in ignoring the fact that the current administration lacked proactive and strategic leadership Its mismanagement helped fuel the coronavirus crisis as we know it in our beloved country It failed to respond to Chinas epidemic as an imminent threat to America and the world Hence we are just now shuffling for shelter In 2018 the Admissions fired key officials connected to US pandemic response and never replaced them This program literally was supposed to anticipate this type of epidemicpandemic A 2021 budget cut proposal by the administration is still with Congress Thank God they didnt approve it yet Its continuous habit of ignoring scientists and embracing an isolationist mentality for the past four years stripped the world from a possible coalition that should have worked together since rumors of patient zero Although this is the worlds first coronavirus pandemic it is not the worlds first pandemic or epidemic All other administrations from Obama to Bush to Clinton were equipped with humble leaders to listen to scientist long before disasters are in sight|0 Its an antigovernment messianic cult is the big problem|0 Over a day or so Look at the numbers of weeks and months because thats what this isThis is a 6 month problem at a minimum Daily changes mean fuck all|0 Words of wisdom Damn|1 Wait until you get better or die|0 We are running low on some of these key supplies at the hospital where I work It happens|0 I trust a doc rather than a reddit comment and having multiple sources saying that there is also a virus for a stronger flu going around with people having mild symptoms up to 8 weeks is more trustworthy Could have become a lunginfection but if it would have been critical they would have called me in and I described them my symptoms very clearly There is also no complications stage since its over now anyway and all I did was their recommended drinking much and laying downEdit I see I worded my comment wrong I didnt had strong coughing for 4 weeks it stopped after 1 week getting slowly better It felt the best again after 2 weeks Now its all gucci again but it was a total of 4 weeks for the whole process to be over|1 SHUT THAT SHIT DOWN NOW|0 Hi Thanks for this Im reading a lot of alarmist stuff about US cities exploding with cases over the next few days any thoughts on if this is realistic or likely Some of it is really terrifying|0 httpswwwgovukschoolattendanceabsencelegalactiontoenforceschoolattendanceGood way to get a fine or at worst jail sentence|0 I still dont know what that means lol|1 it is significant this just confirmed that air travel will make it more likely for people to get infected elderly or otherwise|0 Well fuck its starting We need bunny suits and non disposable facemasks Stop disposing gloves use a bunny suit everyone has the same fucking virus No point am I wrong|0 Oh I didnt mean it like her life is worth less Rather its not as alarming as a French national with no travel history to China dying|0 the lie was gross understatement of real numbers|0 You do realize that the rich play this game at a level higher than the average AmericanIf wealth taxes get too high the wealthy will happily start moving their wealth out of the US or start ventures in other tax regions|1 Yeah dont worry thats only 329 million dead if everyone was infected thats fine right guys only like losing the entire state of Utah or IowaDo they not understand that 1 is massive amount of people still this also doesnt include severe cases of hospitalised people and even the massive amounts of homebound people because mild symptoms|0 I dont know if Im too high for this but I dont understand the title They recalled a flight like to turn back around that was going to Wuhan and directed it to Italy|1 What the fuck has happened to this country that this is even possible|0 Exactly the cost would be insane they are not going to cover payroll rent etc Maybe postponing mortgage and other fixed debt payments will help but I cant imagine the government covering these|0 Or maybe youre getting whipped up into a frenzy by JoeReddit|0 The death rate is at least 34People need to stop spreading numbers like under 1or 94 when its been proven to be at least 34|0 I will do that now I reposted it and made it very clear it was fake and why its wrong But damn People somehow still surprise meEdit I just went to their page and they either hid or deleted it|0 This is why this shit keeps happening in China because they never learn to be accountable to their actions DONT FUCKING EAT WILD ANIMALS AND BLAMIN OTHERS|0 Theres no evidence that is is open to manipulation and many large states already allow some form of votebymail|0 I count like six old people in this picture|1 China quarantines 100 million people and US still has learned nothing with virtually no outbreak containment preparationsFreedom of information only matters if you have a functioning governmentWhereas China imposed strong measures US has done virtually nothing|1 Thats what I thought Horrifying|0 I would honestly think its 2 things combined Year end economic reports getting finalized along with people predicting a recession so people wanting to cash out stock options|1 Ive been looking at the screen for 3 days now almost nonstop since i have an 8 mo and i want to know if shes at any risk |0 Welcome to allergy season|1 The British Chief Medical Officer has been quoted as saying that people with mild asthma are not considered to be higher risk at all He didnt mention more severe asthma|1 This might be an opportunity for him to go from one of the worst PMs of all time to possibly one of the best I hope his wife will recover but this is a defining moment for him that will possibly cost or save millions of lives|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ah yes the two places in the world Europes and America|1 I think theyre saying that the infected number must be very high given the number of exports and high ranking officials that have it If only 210 are dead than the fatality rate is not as high as it could be although still sad|0 Quarantine should help reduce the need to chose if we can just delay the impact and spread them out|1 Im wondering if it wont be something done in tandem along with nonessential services being shut down andor borders being closed as in This is what we are going to do to stop the spread of the virus and this is what we are going to enact for those who are affected A large stimulus package was created so I assume that will go towards aiding those who might be out of a job for a while|0 Theyre going to have low coronavirus cases but an oddly high surplus of pneumonia deaths|0 Hi Russia Detroit Michigan USA here How are your people doing For the last couple of weeks only 2 confirmed cases in Russia Then yesterday 3 Today 4 Possible underreporting Or super strict isolation Well I hope its only 4 I hope your people stay safe|1 the point is that a photoscreenshot of a website is easy to fake using inspect element|0 Lagging numbers due to shortage of testing equipment and lack of hospital beds Once more testing kits are produced in multiple countries and sent to China and the new hospitals open its gonna skyrocket Remember that most of them have no eye protection and inadequate surgical masks Everybody with cold of flu symptoms is rushing to the hospitals for testing so a ton of people who are actually not infected are gonna expose themselves to the virus You gotta imagine that the doctors have no time to properly sterilize high trafficked areas in the hospital Depending on airflow Id imagine its a Corona fest in rooms and hallways|0 Im not saying that all And honestly Im more brainstorming it than saying I think it is the best or only option What if Low risk people volunteered to get it and then quarantined for 1 month Simultaneously isolating high risk people at the same time|1 Excellent point When this was first breaking the fact that the virus was hitting at such a culturally critical time I think many of us have forgotten that element or have joined the watch party later along the developmentsIt is not lost on me that this is a year of the rat the smallest of the Chinese zodiac its the littlest of things that are making big impacts|1 Yes I get you Had this discussion with my father in south Florida today how he is key demographic to be concerned and what steps to take to prepareavoid Being far away sucks|1 I really dont think they are stupid they just dont want to|0 I was just thinking of this yesterday I joined a few weeks ago when it was just under 100k now its over 1milIts oddly reassuring knowing that more and more people are at least paying attention to this|1 Risking the exposure of thousands to a deadly virus Now thats violence|0 Survival of the fittest richest unfortunately|1 Hard news man Rotten|0 I dont blame them|1 Ive never considered this before BUT it is more deadly for the elderly which they just so happen not to have enough youth to care for them|1 Theyre not asking cause they have nothing to test you with Scary shit US Citizens should be screaming bloody murder South Korea testing 100000 per day Yesterday the CDC tested something like 8|0 I dont see anywhere where it says to go out and stock up It says to expect it to spread but to remain calm go about lives and practice meticulous hygiene|1 Also in Edmonton and concerned by the silence amidst cuts to healthcare at that|0 Thanks for the explanation I get the flu shot every year so luckily I havent had the flu since the 90s Ive had a few colds though but it looks like Tamiflu isnt effective for that anyway|1 Most people have to work to eat Not gonna happen until a certain point is reached|1 I am sure the Chinese have this as the start of December so I guess some time in November or October in reality|1 Oh I assure you that If theres a full on pandemic in India youll know There are many opponents of the current govt waiting for it to happen so that they can attack|0 To be sure its possible that Wucinski will not have to pay all the charges The hospital has told reporters that the bill was sent in errorWe just cannot draw a conclusion yet and we need people to get tested not to panic Also the vast majority of his charges were for ambulance rides which shouldnt be necessary in most cases|1 I was there during hurricane Charlie The day of the hurricane they closed the parks early at around 430 PM The next morning the resorts were a disaster but Magic Kingdom and Epcot were open at their normal time and completely spotless MGM and Animal Kingdom were open the next day|0 Its a bullshit answer The man knows how the virus could affect his team and if theyre taking precautions or whatever If hes worried thats the question Thats all And he gave a bullshit nonanswer|0 I have to keep reminding myself I dont have this there have been no cases in my state I havent traveled My whole family got something with the exact symptoms My kids were over it fairly quickly My mother and I she is on immunosuppressants I am normal health got the worst of it Still wheezing and coughing 2 weeks later I get these spells where it literally feels like Im drowning like I inhaled water in a pool My mom has trouble sleeping because she cant breathe Husband thinks I have pneumonia Hes been trying to get me to go to the doc for a week one Im too scared to go to the doctor in the midst of this and two Id look like an idiot or a nut with no reason to be tested Ive been sick since before the 1st case was announced in the US or roughly the same time|0 I hate that schools in the US arent federally funded|0 That makes this worse imoThey upped it in January to prepare for potential pandemic And yet continued to lie saying its just the flu until basically todayEither way its not good news|0 Well i would say it is very much dependant on region and people you are talking to 3 Weeks ago you were called crazy by most people anyway Then the cases in italy started getting more serious the ignorance slowed down a little Then there were a few cases localy in germany and a few concerning press statments of the head of the health ministery Thats when the first cities started noticing bulk purchasing most notably disenfectant and toilet paper was goneThen it kinda levelled out people started to talk shit again With the nationwide quarantine in italy im thinking tomorrow is gonna be insane I mean the bulk purchasing was kinda strangely happening only in certain cities Cities with either confirmed cases or cities where just by public pressure bulk purchasing became a thing Like you see a lot of people at the grocery store you better do the same Now i imagine shit will the fan in about every major city|0 Isnt that the USThe CCP is a bunch of power hungry thugs that never finished high school has no knowledge or abilities on politics whatsoever only got their job through bribing and family relations falters at the first sight of a disaster|0 Seattle is supposed to be the epicenter of the United States Coronavirus outbreak but this is the scene outside most Seattle brewerieshttpsiimgurcomjoSVaxOjpg|1 Today I saw an interview with an infectiologist working on creating a Covid19 vaccine and she mentioned that after the Ebola epidemic the WHO somehow managed to build a kit for creating vaccines for all kinds of diseases quite quickly meaning not 5 years but around 1 year from first outbreak to distribution So shes pretty hopeful that were getting better and faster at this|1 Nah look at rstocks they hate him|0 Body positivity is gonna go out the window when people realize that the virus is wiping out fat people Gonna be hard after 2020 to say that being fat is aokay|1 I know I want it tooBut good news phase 1 of human testing has been started for COVID19 vaccinesAlso Italy has the lowest number of new confirmed cases ever todayTheres good news Stay safe indoors But really makes you reevaluate whats important We will get through this faster by slowing transmission |1 My brother was supposed to get married April 4 its postponed until September|0 Thanks China for letting us have a taste of that animall aswell|1 Yeah but doesnt exponential growth typically refer to eRt where the rate R is 22 and the t is time instead of Rt|0 Sounds like the US 30 years ago|1 Yeah I managed to complete 4 overall coronavirus WUs so far two CPU two GPU but after that point my pc has either sat there not getting any new WUs or getting ones completely unrelated to coronavirus|1 yes or get it early and get reinfected|1 Just say no|0 cries in online student at a college|0 I believe its both type 12 Diabetes My daughter is type 1 Im scared To answer your question They are at higher risk because they have compromised immune systems|0 Thanks in A22 does he choose between large sums of money and the welfare of his familyAlso I remember when there was a shortage of oil and gasoline prices went up But then when there was a surplus the oil company said prices had to go up to justify the lower demand and they still had trucks and infrastructure to pay for|0 Oh yeah absolutely I totally agree with OP that this is the biggest thing in the news since 911 Buckle up|1 Only 3 of the 1000 deaths were people under 75 without preexisting conditions Still not good enough|0 The sad this is that he didnt know he had Leukemia until he got tested for the coronavirus and shortly after died|0 Yup Im the immortal words of Mitchell and web stay indoors|1 and thats why theyre passing legislation to give people the equivalent of unemployment during the crisisits like you ask a million questions which have already been or are being answered but you think youre some sort of philosopher or some shit|0 wow|1 Im never gonna stop quoting this quote from a March 3rd article The CDC a US federal agency opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization it is not yet clear why httpsfortunecom20200303coronavirusustest|1 Isnt englands goal to get healthy people infected|0 Yeah its misleading to just look at only 1 statistic half of people needing hospitalising in italy are under 65 but most of them recover But thats putting a massive strain on the health service which is the main issue|0 Well fuck|0 Most cloud companies dont allow this type of work on their servers Mostly because pegging the CPU for any length of time is not allowed|0 Makes sense 5 day incubation and a couple days to confirm or so then another week on top of it So 2 weeks makes sense maybe 3 weeks for recovery|1 My dad 59 is still going into the office because he says he is more productive when he does At least theres literally no one else in his microsoft building|0 You have even more exposure with your husbands line of work so same question should they be given a stipend to stay in a hotel or other off site place so they dont infect the family Im at least going to have my husband change in the garage and thoroughly wash and he just works for an energy company not with the sick like your husband But quarantining us doesnt do much when one member goes out and back every day|1 I thought it was mostly gen z making those memes Thats their grandparents who they may not be as close with as a generation and theyre at the age edgy humor is cool Most millennials have boomer parents so we dread the day they pass I know I do I dread it so hard|0 My daughters first solid food was salmon she grabbed off of my wifes plate at 6mos|1 Dogs dont get quarantined in China They get dead|0 My understanding is Vzla is a military dictatorship Do the residents of Vzla all have shares in the local oil companies And get a of those profits every month|1 Lol Trump literally said people over 60 should stay inside their homes he said it Wednesday|1 wow fuck everything about governments who shut off water to populations who cannot afford it Water should be a right|1 Are you kidding The Bay Area for the most part is RICH You want a city thats done Look at New Orleans Already poor survives on tourism Perspective dude Get some about your area|1 In laymans terms This is a broad generalization and very much an oversimplification but in general diseases tend to attenuate and change to a less virulent form over time A highly efficient killer like Ebola does NOT spread easily because it takes out its hosts quickly AND makes the highly visible to other potential hosts so they are avoided A disease that transmits easily in asymptomatic or subclinical cases and does not kill its hosts survives better AND the host population will always have individuals less susceptible because of natural processes often genetically based and so organisms and hosts adapt to survive This all involves what is known as Selection Pressure This article httpswwwsciencedailycomreleases200503050325234239htmhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases200503050325234239htm discusses the role of the CCR5 gene in providing a form of immunity for plague and coincidentally HIV due to the way it works within the body Essentially those who dont die pass on their genes and usually the one that allowed them to live when others died The organism is under similar pressures|0 Yep Its just different mindsets at the end of it The ability to be optimistic and see the good side of things and forgiving people is a trait that is not found in all of us The end result was good even if the person was scum they may learn their lesson from this and never do it again|1 Definitely While Im reading and watching everything I can about the coronavirus Im preparing for a two month quarantine at home I dont see any other way this will turn out Nobody here NL thinks that this is more serious than the flu The msm isnt telling the truth here either and it will cause a lot of problems in the coming weeksmonths Its infuriatingMeanwhile I get weird looks when I use sanitizer everywhere I go|0 If every CEO on the planet were to be fed into a wood chipper nothing of value would be lost and a great deal of useful fertilizer would be gained|1 I agree the communication has been bad and I think a lot of the panic and the 400000 dead is based on thatIn my view whatever they do we are the guinea pigs|0 Natural selection at its finest moment|1 One last shebang before were all locked in for good durhurhur|1 The problem isnt the kids catching it The problem is them catching it and bringing it home to grandma and grandpa and infecting their teachers|0 Rich get tested everyone else toils in uncertainty|1 I dont think he handled it great either by the way but lets not sit here and pretend Hillary would have done much betterDoesnt matter for even slightly defending trump even though Im not really im going to get attacked and downvoted to hell anyway So enjoy your echo chamber cause im not gonna go back and forth with you|0 Plague doctors be like N O Boards up doorswindows and gets the leeches|1 Ya My docs from away eh That this will overwhelm our systems is a given How bad it gets depends on what type of mitigation measures Canadians actually practice Wash wash wash SanitizeNo hugs kisses and handshakes Keep a 6 foot clearance around you as much as possible Sanitize your surfaces every day Twice if you canStay home if youre sickSneeze and cough into a tissue Discard the tissue Sanitize|1 Those responsible enough to selfreport and get tested are responsible enough to isolate themselves Others are probably infected and just trying to ride it out without telling anyone|0 Im no raging liberal by any means but I can tell ya its because the other side has most of the science deniers antivaxxers flatearthers those types The types that worsen these kind of situations This is no time for the tinfoil hat boomer crew|0 Thanks|1 Cant change the title but its a good point Carefully worded titles also have a harder time to get traction and the group working on this is dedicated and serious Its all about organizing the talent right now and being realistic It might not end up being a ventilator at all if that route is deemed inaccessible there are alternatives being discussed if thats the case|1 I was able to get some masks today yay HEB not N95 though and I was just telling him he may have to wear a bandana over his mouth with a mask under it I already have a small hand sanitizer to go into his jeans pocket|1 Fair|1 Some of the most severe covid19 cases need blood oxygenation using a machine ECMO devices There are 250 of them in the entire US|0 It is not I cant say because Im on a very specialized team and complaining publicly could get me fired|0 Again youre not wrong about the fact that it would likely force actionBut realistically unless the protesters were prepared to full on storm the whitehouse he could just wait 3 weeks and most of them would be incapacitated or deadAgain I understand your train of thought but this is not the right time for something like this Mass suicide doesnt improve society|0 Oh man Boomers are NOT gonna like this|0 I want to request my brothers and sister from all over the world to unite and fight against these disease by having faith on humanity Please avoid public gathering places because if you are infected then anyone can get the infection And not every indivisual have the ability to produce enough immunity to fight these virus They can die too and its not just the loss for the family but for the whole world We are son and daughters of these mother earth and its our responsibility to protect our family ordinary person from india|1 Government still lying now And more people will die|0 Here you gohttpsnewsyahoocomsaysnolongerusespandemic080213656htmlAlso herehttpswwwmsncomenzanewsothercoronavirusnolongerusespandemiccategorybutstillemergencywhoarBB10kNBK There is no official category for a pandemic WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said For the sake of clarification WHO does not use the old system of 6 phases that ranged from phase 1 no reports of animal influenza causing human infections to phase 6 a pandemic that some people may be familiar with from H1N1 in 2009 he said|0 To be fair to the mortality rate and Im not trying to downplay at all the assisted living home was basically the worst case scenario for this to spread in as the mortality is known to be far higher in elderly patients with underlying medical conditions Seattle also has a pretty wide spread homeless population that cant be helping this but this is moving way faster than weve been told continually to worry about Im looking directly at Inslee to step up and cancel crowdsevents because were likely already 2 weeks behind on this|0 Nobody will trade a can of corn for any amount of gold in certain circumstances|1 Are there any further broken down age statistics Specifically for the elderly Looking for 8089 and then 90 Theres a huge difference between an 80 year old and a 95 year old|0 I got friends booking flights to Rome in May because its dirt cheap|1 Gotta flatten that curve somehow Remember according to Trudeau his decisions are all science based And you all know how hard science is so dont question it|0 Thats what CFR means Case Fatality Rate Only diagnosed cases are considered|0 theres someone in my area selling a half used bottle of hand sanitizer for 30|1 Exactly For all the people complaining about the media hyping it up the awareness is not getting through to lowinformation people|0 Did you stay and write the exam or just leave Im hoping Id have just left personally I guess hindsight is 2020 though easy to say before you know the town is being ravaged|1 TranslationConfirmed case of Covid19 in Rio is 27yearold woman who returned from ItalyBrazil March 5 2020 1743The first case of Covid19 in the state of Rio is a 27yearold woman who was recently in ItalyThe patient who lives in the city of Barra Mansa RJ was in Italy between February 9th and 23rd After presenting the symptoms back in Brazil she went to a health unit on March 1stThe positive result for the new coronavirus was confirmed by FiocruzThe patient is in isolation at home Her husband and other relatives are being monitored as well as passengers who were close to her on the plane on the flight back to BrazilIt is an imported case It goes well It is a mild form of the disease stated the State Secretary of Health of Rio Edmar Santos|1 And apparently any actor that has a sore throat|0 true in this instance median age is probably a less useful measure than the of people above 65 People in their 50s and younger appear to affected much less by Covid19|1 Talking about our fears to supportive folks can been quite helpful Not dwelling on it but recognizing it and sitting with it a bit is good in my experience I use quided meditations from utube to calm me when my anxiety builds We can control our breathing with a bit of training and our negative thoughts so as to keep them from ruling us Just takes practice For me staying in this right now and noticing one thing which I can see hear taste and feel in any given moment brings me into right now Once I am in right now not yesterday or the future I can summon my wits and build my courage most of the timeThese are the days of courage building for us all Reaching out to friends and family that may even be more frightened and vulnerable than ourselves can help as well Being useful in a physical way can also help Ask others how you can help them This builds a sense of purpose and eases anxieties Gets us out of our headHopefully we all have someone to share these feelings of dread and anxiety with This is a time of drawing close emotionally for support To admit we need others As the old saying goes no one is an island People respond to danger differently Many are in denial and will use anger to avoid feeling discomfort You might research cognitive distance and or normalcy bias for help in understanding how some folks are handling thisCheck into self soothing techniques as well I often read draw or listen to music to escape anxiety or other emotions that can overwhelm Part of maturity emotionally is learning healthy tools to calm ourselves with It can be a lifelong challenge for some to do so It certianly has been for meMainly know that you are not alone All of us no matter our age or status are walking this path together though many dont fully recognize the danger yet Our ancestors felt as powerless as we when they faced other such dangers yet nevertheless they persisted as must we allSending healing prayers and thoughts of hope to each of you no matter in what countries borders you live today Grateful for this place to share as so many where I live are in full denial with little testing done yet However my instincts and education tell me its already here We are self quarantining now due to my health and husbands advanced age Feeling powerless to stop the unseen enemy but powerful in that I have us as prepared as I possibly can Forgive the wall of text Feeling a bit alone and overwhelmed at this moment myselfHang in there Taking it one moment at a time That is key for me|1 Something is not right here Is this VP finally taking the job seriously|0 They tried to quiet doctors reporting on the virusthere are reasons why people are angry Im saving it for after this is done|0 Thats when the security deposit comes in handy|1 Definitely going to be quarantined CDC is already rerouting people from that part of China to LAX if I recall correctly|1 I agree however you have to consider the importance of unity at times like this Dont get me wrong I think the approach the government is taking is risky and downright stupid But the fact is its an approach This guy has repeatedly said that we need to work together to fight this common enemyIm sure he strongly disagrees with this approach aswell But challenging the government is virtually useless at this stage potentially harmful There will be time for lawsuits and such after Our only real option is to back the approach theyre taking and pray that it doesnt end nearly as badly as we expectIf you really disagree with the approach take matters into your own hands and leave schoolwork and such The only current options are back the government or ignore what theyre saying and focus on yourself Challenging the government gets nobody anywhere currently|0 North Korea is doing great|1 I give him two days before Trump fires him for disloyalty then uses him as a scapegoat|0 Encourage Boris to meet infected patients and shake their handsHell take it seriously then|0 If you are dead you may have had coronavirus and should stay in place|0 You can be on my team when society collapses|0 Definitely freaking out a bit I work primarily with cruise ship passengers during Northern Hemisphere summer so the season is coming up Will there be enough work to pay the bills I sure hope so|1 Looking ugly you corona|0 I agree with you on the first part but because the early part of the epidemic was strongly biased towards severe cases that 10 will fall Many people would have been infected and selfrecovered at home without being diagnosed As the virus spread outside of Hubei to other parts of China and several other countries more mild and asymptomatic cases are being confirmed due to contact tracing|0 Cancel Quick little private ceremony Go out and help people|1 httpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive201805whitehouselosesglobalhealthsecurityleadasanewebolaoutbreakhits560195httpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive201805whitehouselosesglobalhealthsecurityleadasanewebolaoutbreakhits560195 From the Atlantic discussing how the responsibilities fell to Andrea Hall after Ziemer resignedRon Klain the former Ebola czar agrees Andrea Hall has a good reputation but I think this is a mistake that puts us all more at risk he says Combining epidemic prevention and control with WMD issues means that the epidemic work will always take a back seat It means that no senior level person will be specifically focused on the work that needs to be done to protect us from this serious threat And it means that the team will tilt their focus more toward intentional attacks using infectious diseases and less on the more frequent and just as serious risk of naturally spread diseasesIn regards to how many people were let go Im not seeing numbers anywhere just that the team that Ziemer led was reassigned|0 As far as the WHO is concerned outright travel bans accomplish nothing|1 Thats a great policy not only for the workers but the community And the company since having your entire workforce potentially infected could be quite bad|0 Nice of them|1 Maybe now I can play it without driving twenty minutes first|1 I think our leaders know something when Trump a man who laughs as the prospect of getting impeached literally threw a shitfit because someone allowed 14 infected people into the country something is up|1 Op Can u advise We talking get the guns ready shits about to be out of the yalls hands to maintain order If not currently happening can you please update with progress of when this grasp on social order seems to be slipping That would be great Washington state checkin in here Not lookin good Over and out|1 Its not the end of the worldhttpsyoutubeOtP80Z08lfgA documentary was made 10 years ago about a flu pandemic that starts in East Asia and causes the total destruction of modern civilizationThe only things that they have gotten wrong so far is that the documentary said there was 25000 dead and a suspension of all flights before any US cases And that the virus has the fatality rate of Avian flu 60 mixed with the transmissiblility of Swine flu which is happening with this virus Everything else is going on as shown|0 Here in Spain we had one coronavirus death in early February when we didnt even know the virus was here The guy had a pneumonia that just wouldnt quit doctors were stumped they took samples the guy died they shelved the samples They only tested them weeks later when other cases started to emerge they did a back of the envelope calculation number of detected cases spread of the virus incubation period and they thought back and realized this man could have been infected tooIn the US Im sure many oh wow random pneumonia patients are covid19 patients undiagnosed because of a literal lack of testing kits|0 Agreed Canadian news is going to be drowned out by American politics |0 The fact that dogs and cats are very much more domesticated in the sense that they have evolved into pets over time and lived in such close proximity to humans is of consideration here Viral loads due to proximity would be somewhat similar in each and effect each other to varying degrees This makes sense from a biological evolutionary perspective over time It wouldnt surprise me one bit if that dog you heard about with the virus is representative of what I suggest Somehow this virus exists there If some direct relationship between people consuming dog or cats even pets does exist it would reasonably increase the loadperhaps to a critical point I think most anyone can see why the idea and thought of eating petlike creaturesis not that palatable and maybe even a little unwise if not just for this reason alone The domestication of animals as livestock and feed for humans such as what you see offered at your every day local grocery store or butcher is there because it is tried and tested through time Peoples dont eat there pets they love them Dangers exist in the unknown That is its nature|0 I never said they were the same thing but both of the viral illnesses are similar The common cold is caused by a variety of viruses including both influenza and corona virus Its less about the virus and more about the presentation of the illness A disease isnt just a disease were not talking about rhinovirus vs rabies were discussing two similar respiratory infections|0 I mean not everyone lives in first or even second world conditions So if someones fighting starvation I dont really blame them for what theyll eat|0 Is the cough dry Fever too Fatigued Aches Call your local health unit if youre unable to contact your provinces 811 number|0 This is my first dick|0 today alone|0 By now weve all heard the message about hand washing not touching our face and disinfecting surfaces What about when we come home from places where we encountered other people such as work or the store Should we immediately change shower or would that have little effect|1 Another area satisfying the rules of calling this a pandemicHopefully they will admit it and raise awareness because the world in general doesnt have a clue how risky it is to continue life as normal right now|1 Right there with you My mom is near 70 and has a respiratory problem I tried to warn her I sent her the facts I told her its better to be safe than sorry She just doesnt listen Now she wont stop sending me facebook coronavirus hoax memes Same damn the flu kills blah blah blah every year blanket statement without doing any research I fear for her life I really dont want her to eat her own words Love you brother Stay safe|0 nice|1 It is hard to say I Have heard of stories of people going to the hospital for it and getting treated but never tested because they did not meet the criteria|0 I believe the smartest firstline approach in Ontario at least is to call Telehealth for guidance They may prescreen and as said in other responses at the moment I think theyre requiring travel history or related contact but that may change very soon as some experts seem to keep reporting will happenI definitely wouldnt show up at an ER without talking to someone firstAlso theres a new clinic you may want to consider East York that just got set up in Toronto which will hopefully be a sign of things to comehttpswwwctvnewscahealthonthospitaltosetupspecialcovid19clinictoeasebusyemergencyrooms14839575httpswwwctvnewscahealthonthospitaltosetupspecialcovid19clinictoeasebusyemergencyrooms14839575|1 I always do keep on eye on her breathing she is one tough cookie at 92 and she was a nurse herself But Im just afraid our government and our society isnt taking enough proactive steps I also want to take a moment to thank you for what you do People like you daily do stuff that most of us couldnt and now with the COVID19 outbreak you healthcare workers are truly brave fighting everyday to work to stop this Thank you so very much But please promise me you will rest when needed cannot have our medical staff literally work themselves into a grave like in China|1 IMO All schools will be closed after March break Childcare centers will be provided for emergency workers This is going to get real for Canadians over the next 10 14 days|0 in two weeks this sub will be difficult to sort through with all the postsSeems we are already there Also thanks for that other reddit details|1 Year Episode please anyone|1 But theres plenty of scientific evidence that NSAIDS excluding aspirin are horrid for your heart and you never know how the body may react causing a spike in blood pressure Tylenol is still the safest as long as dosages are taken properly|0 The surge of panic buying should hopefully calm down over the next week but its hard to forecast that since its driven entirely by fear Once case numbers start ticking up it could spark another wave of panic|0 Nah they might still be worth something when this blows over |1 Yikes they really using a photo of Chinatown in Chicago for this Their businesses are already suffering seems a bit harsh to use their photo without confirming where|0 Local restaurantThe owner is in working dry cough Red nose and eyesBreakfast bar I witnessed an individual dry cough coughing all over the buffet line no attempt to hide itOne manager is in the hospital with butt flu they joke on am IV lineThis is in PA|0 American here A majority of the people I know simply dont give a fuck are saying its just another flu and openly admit they dont want to talk about|1 Absolutely not But if a sample of the virus is present inside a lab in Wuhan in 2013 it does raise questions about what is the most likely source of the outbreak A bat population living 900 km away or faulty containment at Chinas only level 4 biolab situated in Wuhan It will be virtually impossible to prove either Virus is notoriously hard to contain and SARS Coronavirus has outsmarted Chinese security at least two times in the last 20 years Alarmbells were raised in prestigous scientific journals when the Wuhan institute went online with their level 4 lab I think this was in 2017 There are around 50 BSL4 labs worldwide of which only a fraction work with Coronavirus|0 httpswwwlewrockwellcom202003billsarditrumphaltscdcfearmongeringbutwhyareantibioticsnotantiviralsquellingthecovid19coronavirusisitreallyavirus Good article but dumb title as it has little to do with substance So dont flame for this libertarians research on this and keep an open mind noting that we do not really have a good enough understanding of short term and long term effects of this event But the possibilities of misdiagnosis on this is there given if this article is correct it could explain the reinfections no impact on young age range lung fibrosis mucus transmission and why people received antibiotics for a virus Would like specific tests done to rule it out or to confirm it as it impacts treatment|0 Im far from the medical field but I do not believe the official version either I noticed that all the articles supposedly debunking escape from the lab theory basically say that it is unlikely that the virus was manmade So what How does that prove it didnt escape from there Even if was a natural virus they could be working with it there and made a mistake that let it out|1 People often overlook the fact that Mulroney and Chrtien were actually horrible for health budgets across the country The federal govs offloaded a chunk of their funding responsibilities to the provincial governments|0 No and some top London health official declared today that we they will be testing LESS laughcriesCall me crazy but this is starting to border on conspiratorial cover up|0 If it was related wed have a far greater rate of infected and dead Nobody surrounding those people fell ill like people with covid19|0 Wish Trump would step up but we know he wont Luckily we have a good bit saved but I wait tables so Im worried to even go in at all|1 This isnt a problem because most people cant afford to see a healthcare professional in the US|1 Yep same here I have three kids and we only go out for absolute necessities and only on off peak hours|1 This is what Ive been waiting for too People in Australia my country have been going oh yeah its only 4 people tho like It hasnt been here for 2 weeks we literally cannot determine wether or not its spread to people living here yet And theyre so chill about it meanwhile Im just sitting here waiting for early feb to see how many people actually have it Its a fun little waiting game isnt it |1 Wow thats seriously steep Still it has to plateau eventually Hopefully significantly before it hits 77bhttpswwwworldometersinfoworldpopulation|1 Thanks for the changes May I suggest add Mexico to South America and call them Latin America Most of this sub is already about the US so it would be hard to look for Mexican cases under that flair|1 Love the Irish People|1 Serious Imagine on the peeps in opioids too and how cray they will get without their drugs|0 Here is my rather unpopular opinionThe virus is not as contagious as everybody thinks it is If it has been around for 6 weeks with the current R0 of 2 to 3 there should have been a lot more cases by now especially also as everybody now heard about the symptoms and would go get it checked outIt seems that most cases come from close prolonged contacts eg homes cruises sects or unprotected hospital settings and not random encounters everywhere By now NYC Miami and Chicago should have had 100s of cases assuming it has been circulating for weeks there as well China could get the infection rates down by limiting hospital visitors and keeping people at home No idea but it might be that the US style of living is less crowded and therefore there might be less spreading The cases you see now popping up might still be the true representation of total cases less than expected and not changes in the disease severity Most the current infectivity and mortality values are based on the Chinese numbers it might just not reflect what is going on the US as the lifestyles and living conditions are not the sameIts just very odd that there are so few cases in the Western world and the increase in cases is not logarithmic Just my half cent|1 Well there must be some data that suggests that just not enough to be considered sound I mean that this isnt just some bullshit like snorting chilli powder will cure Coronavirus|1 I reject your framing Youre begging the question and claiming negative discussion is mass hysteria youre also rejecting all possibility of spread suspicions about lies government coverups or whatever else without actually knowing anything not that doomers know anything either See how reckless you are You just killed me stop talking Take responsibility because I am broken|0 Sometimes giving a timeline is better for peoples minds than using the phrase indefinitely It also keeps peoplefrom constantly emailing and asking their leaders a billion questions re any update yet etc Less questions coming in during a critical all hands on deck time like this for managers leaders etc means more time they can focus on how to handle the situation without going bankrupt Oh And complying to their newly updated pandemic plan and also OSHA For retailers speaking about another one aside from Nordstrom it was less about holding off in closing and more about how to not screw their people aka avoid lay offs Shutting their doors meant no sales No sales meant no way to pay employees salaries OR rentoperating expenses Yep Held off as long as they could But had to close their stores probably later than public would agree and therefore had to lay off multiple employees because of it Due to extending the closure those employees at least got a few more days of pay Anyways Sorry for your situation and I do hope they stay closed longer than 2 weeks as you wish even though it might cause unemployment for those at the agency you mentioned This is not a good situation for anyone is my ultimate point Best of luck and stay healthy And positive|1 Do you agree with the Imperial College Report conclusions How long do you anticipate this lasting and how does the new way if the world look in your different scenariosWhats most concerning to you and what do you recommend we at home do beyond hygiene and social sustainingThank you for your work and taking the time here I hope governments are utilizing your knowledge and assistance as well|1 Why dont they keep it in control here and let them do what they want|1 So awesome Thanks for creating these communities yall|1 Medical personel are often within transmission range of infected people around 6ft and masks are a barrier that helps prevent infected people from spreading the disease Also n95 masks require special training to use and are almost entirely ineffective if you dont use them correctly|0 Glad I could too much doom and gloom about at the moment Have to try and see the humour in some of it|0 You cant pay rent with a credit card|1 Im hoping we do but I dont think this will happen until 3 weeks away|1 glad WHO is finally doing something s|1 pure gold thanks for this advice Peace to you and your friends and family|1 Hah this whole thing shows how pathetic the worlds richest nation actually is|0 I got a bad feeling about this|0 Dont forget to sing the national anthem|1 Hes worried about that and hes not very close with his parents And we havent been dating long enough that he would feel comfortable staying at my parents house|1 Lol the US and UK cant do anything if the outbreak happend there Just look at what happened with H1N1 US did nothing to contain it in 2009|1 This doctor Drew dude said the death toll was around 30 last week Since then its tripled We are in a world of shit if we hit multi hundreds in a week|0 No It has killed 23|0 Bend over and get ready|1 Do I want to click this link|1 Sure everyone has recoveredMove along nothing to see|1 Death isnt the only important outcome|0 In not sure cases you could take 500mgday which is unlikely to have side effects and I think the french expert said should work The Chinese dose of 1gday is quite hard core and Id be wary of that|0 So 4 loo rolls to last me the week before I shop again Better stick to sensible dinners|1 Does the drug maker offer patient assistance programs I am on a very expensive drug my insurance will not cover and I am able to get it for free via the patient assistance program offered by the drug maker|1 Doubt it as mentioned she self quarantined herself in her home since the 24th|0 Well this has certainly crushed any remaining optimism I had left Our options really are either let it blow through the population or deal with home quarantine until a vaccine ready|1 Yeah sure buddy the collapsing emergency system locked down courts and overextended police are totally gonna serve eviction orders on thousands or millions of armed desperate people Theres not a snowballs chance in hell Its time for a mass rentmortgage strike if the government isnt going to order it themselves and if they try to attack people for doing whats necessary to survive they will face direct militant resistance|0 I live in Austin TX which is about to host the SXSW festival in a couple weeksHAhahaha Oh shit HAhahahahaha Oh man not a joke OK Well it was a good run Texas but you should have quarantined Austin when they turned blue|1 Waiting Room The first track on both Fauzi and Fugazis Great Hits Albums|1 No city has ever been welded inside their homes and left to their own deviceslast time the plague hit London yes And for every death a bell was rung until the dead outpaced the bells|0 Im a landlord in OH I texted my restaurant biz tenants today and told them not to worry about April rent and that we would reassess for MayEdit For the people not in the restaurant and bar business I am addressing it on a case by case as their work either shuts down or remains open Some tenants will still be able to pay if they are in an essential job tat doesnt end up shutting down My only hope for my one solvency is that banks dont ask for mortgage payments next month|1 Theyll speed this up if it seems to work My mother was part of a polio vaccine trial when she was a kid and midway through it was so obvious that it was working that they stopped the trials and started giving it out to everyone|1 Yeah Im in a dorm and getting kicked out I dont think were coming back which sucks cuz Im a senior Lot of goodbyes this week|0 Its really worrying when the test numbers are increasing but that percentage is also increasingthe same|0 BULLSHIT|0 Their funding has been cut repeatedly and further cuts are in most recent Trump budget proposal Without funds it is impossible to be adequately prepared Dont blame the little guys trying to do their jobs|0 yeah something about the officials that transported the diamond princess passengers back the US without wearing and protection i assume the officials didnt go into quarantinei dont think that was the cdcs fault but it still goes under the heading of governmental incompetence|0 No it should be removed It is extremely misleading The lab was a research lab doing a flu study They did not get consent from the participants to check for SARSCoV2 which is why the CDC and FDA and later the state health agency ordered them to stop the tests They were violating ethics standards|0 By most models there will be tens of millions sick and at least 500000 dead by mid summer Cant sweep that under the rug|0 Its bullshit because I know so many people who NEED to wear masks even without this corona crap because they have compromised immune systems A friends daughter just had a kidney transplant and shes terrified for herPeople suck Im pretty confrontational so I would have said something and it wouldnt have been nice|0 Outbreak was better|1 Carelessly James wants an audience He wants those thousands of people to get infected and then go around town and put thousands more at risk In that case Id rather 1 person James die than thousands of innocent people die All James care about is his paycheck and his stupid game|0 Woman maintains that she didnt joke about coronavirus I believe her over an idiot TSA agent|0 Thats why they shouldnt inform people Removes that dilemma Before the quarantine come and go as you please and as is your right After the quarantine not so much as you would no longer have the legal right to do so I dont care what we call it and I dont care about individual freedoms There is a time and a place to scream about ones personal liberties and there is a time and a place to accept that an individuals liberties should not eclipse the global good We have crossed into a new era|1 We will see very soon I find it hard to trust Chinas govtpropaganda but the fact that it was shown effective against SARS 15 years ago is very encouraging even though this virus is different|1 Is this why that one region in China was told to destroy all that paperwork they had Thought I remembered them mentioning that it was autopsy information|0 Why is this an AMA to be kindly honest I can make a post saying I got the sniffles self quarantine time AMA and tell people how I live inside a home for two weeks Unless you actually get the virus Id be interested but lets hope you dont|1 censored Wuhan footageimmediately removed from wuhan subs and often quickly deleted from twitter tooi needed a way to get this information out apologies if these are reposts i believe this is an entirely new list of more Wuhan footage1 vid 1 doctors collapsing whilst treating patients2 vid 2 dissent into general disorder and police brutality 3 vid 3 food sent to Wuhan cannot penetrate the barricades produce becomes wasted4 vid 4 In Xiaogan Hubei the villagers were reluctant to be sealed up at home and they fought back The police fired shotshttpstwittercomischinarstatus1229550041335058432s21httpstwittercomfangshiminstatus1228939269609181186s21httpstwittercomischinarstatus1229658381331390464s21httpstwittercomischinarstatus1229440164998656003s2the vloggers connected to the links are incredible journalists inside Wuhan check them out on twitter if youre looking for similar content|0 Same Ive been having trouble eating and sleeping Ive started drinking most nights to cope and then proceed to freak out even more once Im sober again since drinking lowers your immune system Posts like this help me stay calmer at least temporarily|1 IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPSWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICK|0 So there was multiple strains not just different levels of immune system response and age causing some to become more sick than others|0 I dont have a fancy theater I live in a studio But my decentsize TV looks huge because of how close everything is together and I can lay on my couch without pants|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The cruise ship is an isolated pocket of people where a high proportion will get infected It will tell is much more about mortality in a normal population If nobody dies out of the 200 already infected then maybe the theory that what were seeing in Wuhan is just bad cases is correct If we start seeing 2 mortality in the cases from the cruise ship then were in trouble|0 Commenting against a fascist organization Chinese Communist Party which has made fodder out of its own people and thrives on spreading misinformation is not wrong Apparently their stooges are present here too|0 The book The Great Influenza discusses how a pandemic can turn civilized societies into every man for himselfI highly recommend it Youll have to download it as its sold out everywhere in hardcover and paperback|1 He did dismantle the pandemic response team because he deemed it unnecessary and refused Covid19 test kits from WHO which has led to massive under testing and reporting of cases|0 I had a mild fever dry cough very runny nose and huge fatigue for about 5 days a couple weeks ago After I felt better I coughed up a bunch of snot But then I was fine Wonder if that was actually it or just something else|1 Take sick peoples to a special medical facility just for corona virus let others free to roam after quarantine period|1 Nope I like to do all my shopping for 3 months at a time No need to look at me weird|0 Hmmm This has kina been running around in my head tonight I know what my Dr will say Ive had the same one for 25 years He will say stay hydrated if your fever goes over 102 call us or if you in distress call or go to ER|0 All signs point to this mutating much slower than the seasonal flu due to genechecking or something A vaccine in theory should be easier to nail down for COVID19 than even the seasonal flu The problem is that we are almost starting from scratch with this one Thus the long lead timeIf were lucky a mutation could even make this thing fizzle itself out|0 Even if China fucked it up and was the source everyone else had plenty of time to prepare better than they did and fucked up royally Down with trump and all the morons who support him who all have shitty logic and are too dumb to realize how stupid they are If it wasnt China some kind of pandemic would be inevitable eventually and we would likely have less time to prepare than we did for this one|0 According to them yes Although these arent patients in critical condition so a duplicate test covering a broader spectrum of patients would give us more answers This study also only covers 5 days of treatment and a 14 day observation would provide a better analysis on how effective the treatments are as they emphasize that 7 days might not be enough|1 I hate to say this but I hope it causes an outbreak so that an example is made of what not to do|1 This gave me the idea people should setup spy cameras to monitor the actual amount of bodies being sent for cremation and wed know the truth|1 Im going to avoid negative karma and not speculate on this one Haha|0 Ill also likely be evicted by thenyes thats the world we live in landlord will literally physically remove you from the property because youre late on rent because you have the virus that literally everyone is getting your fault by the way money life|0 Its just so weird In East Asia you dont need a reason to wear a mask I used to wear one in winter because the wind was brutal Some wear it when they have pimples on their facethey have no time to do makeup Some feel too good about themselves and think they will be recognized by fans on the street Some just see a cool looking mask that fits their lookEdit These are usually not surgical masksN95 but more decorational masks with printed patterns etcnevertheless its easy for people to switch to more useful masks when needed|1 Yeah apparently there has never been a pandemic flu ever with this definition|1 one guy running around a empty city going wooooo woooooo spring break wooooo|0 Ive been referring to the voluntary isolation policy as quarantine theater because thats exactly what it is|0 Just look at whats happening in Italy Korea Japan and of course Chinois Supermarkets are flat out of food Essentials are in high demand Stock up on water rice and beans canned fruits and vegetables Flour salt and sugar Coffee and liquor Gas up the cars at all times I expect gas prices to go up big time|0 She is probably going to be the last president of Taiwan though Her reelection has pretty much discredited the peaceful reunification faction on the mainland War is coming to Taiwan and Tsai InWen is cutting military pay and benefits She also ended military conscription in 2019 Military morale is going to be in the toilet when war comes|0 Good bot|1 Norwegian here Sadly the first death was confirmed this evening|0 First 3000 Puerto Ricans got the Trump flu now maybe 15 million mainlanders will too |0 And garlic lol this is all homeopathic supportive bullshit with no grounding in real science Youre passing this off as nursing 101 Youre fucked|0 Hey Kinner do you mind if I ask if your work is related to coronavirus or something All you do is post coronavirus articles Im curious if you are just in it for the karma trying to spread awareness and do your part do it for work or whatHope you dont mind me asking Im just curious|1 Im sure there is some hope out there its just very difficult to find it right now Be safe wherever you are my friend|1 That is great Thanks for the link|1 There is selfish people everywhere for sure lol and theres good people in America but the majority absolutely selfish And its hard not to be when you know everyone else is selfish I catch myself even Its just so normal here People always have to be first here in everything They have a hard time in taking turns especially A lot of entitlement But Im sure thats everywhere lol maybe Im just cynical idk|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thanks for the info really difficult to find that without speaking the language So it is more likely another artefact as I said I could be totally wrong It just would fit well Btw those platesdishes and how artistically they were arranged looked just beautiful in general an amazing event Just not at this point in time|1 100 with you I had to send 1 home on Friday because of symptoms news went around like wildfire and we had to do temperature checks on others to restore orderAs for OFSTED wankers|1 Seriously my 80 year old grandma went to McDonalds on friday for 25 fish for her sick friend who HAS A COUGH BUT IS OK|1 yes because theres a Biosafety Level4 Lab in wuhan that something like this could be stored researched in|1 People who listen to celebrities in the first place are part of the problem with society to being with|0 I am genuinely sorry Hoping all the best for you guys|1 This tells me that authorities have no confidence in themselves about containing or mitigating the spreadIf the administration was competent this would be a sign to seek outside help|1 Yes but using case fatality at the early stage of an outbreak is an almost meaningless metric and tend to yield much much higher result than actual mortality rate of the disease The very fact that recovered requires a 2 weeks observation period before finally testing negative for the virus makes the recovered data a trailing number further skew the resultBasically copy pasting around that simple formula and tell people the virus has a 33 mortality rate is nonsensical|0 The biggest risk of death seem to be a man and to come from or live in Wuhan and I dont mean their overfilled hospitals|0 Here is what I hope I hope people that dont NEED to eat there right now will save it for those that do This is going to get hard for all of us but some have it harder|1 There is still a lot that is unknown about the newly emerged 2019 novel coronavirus 2019nCoV and how it spreads Two other coronaviruses have emerged previously to cause severe illness in people MERS and SARS 2019nCoV is more genetically related to SARS than MERS but both are betacoronaviruses with their origins in bats While we dont know for sure that this virus will behave the same way as SARS and MERS we can use the information from both of these earlier coronaviruses to guide us In general because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures Coronaviruses are generally thought to be spread most often by respiratory droplets Currently there is no evidence to support transmission of 2019nCoV associated with imported goods and there have not been any cases of 2019nCoV in the United States associated with imported goods Information will be provided on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus websitehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVindexhtml as it becomes availableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|0 Wishing you your mom and your family the best OPFuck cancer|1 The virus might do real damage but in either case panic will cause more problemsIf you tell people this is serious what are they going to do Fight over food in the supermarket Theres nothing really anyone can do except wash their hands more and avoid public places|0 There may come a point when for your own safety you need to not be there when he comes home|1 That narrative appeared days after the video Is there a trustworthy source evidencing this claim Edit If it was CO poisoning wouldnt they have died and been bagged at their home Why were they being bagged on the floor in a hospital Wouldnt they have been taken directly to the mortuary|1 Sorry if this is a stupid question but is there anything we can do to combat this once we are infected I mean as far as giving our antibodies a boost|0 364 still active NHS destruction awaitsThat just means theyre positive Not in hospital But yeah NHS is screwed anyway8200000 pupils equals a death rate for kids 0002 x 8200000 16400 dead kidsDepends on if that number is accurate Low sample Also you assume every kid gets infected|0 Dont burn yourself out like that mate You are right but you are angry at the wind You only harm yourself with it This tone doesnt workIm working in a hospital too And the way people deal with this is surreal people are surprised their holiday travel plans got canceled people share memes and the straight after mention how colleges from other hospitals have their wards shit down as the hospital has to enforce an intake stop people read words of caution by the heads of national specialist ushering words of caution and still dont believe it is going to impact their livesThe thing is in a large city like where I am therell be no avoiding it Uneducated people will always slip through the cracks and the opposite of what they should do It is in their nature they really dont understand the situation You might have prepared but that knowledge is going to het your house raided by people that didnt prepare if they find out when things start to get bad To avoid that governments cant slam down measures too quickly that would just cause panicDont tire yourself out it is still the calm before the storm|0 Making a huge difference|1 yea having to pay 3500 for a faulty test might also be making people reluctant to test its amazing how every step of the way of this the worlds governments of the world show just how incompetent corrupt and pandering they really are|0 I probably am repeating others so please just vote this to hellBut to answer your question I would postulate that they are literally working themselves to death Most cultures treat age and experience as something special So many times younger doctors pick up 1 or 2 or more Now these are just the normal times Add a crisis these younger doctors are picking up more shifts than usual After a bit of time lack of sleep whacks the immune system It will also cause one to make small mistakes Normally these are probably dropping stuff or forgetting parts of conversations Now however these mistakes not only raise the risk for the patient but also the staff Protocols end up not being followed creating a perfect stormThis has been a huge known and accepted secret Hospiral Doctors are from their residency all the way up as indentured servants They do there time no matter what and if the stars align they become someone special|1 Im pretty sure this virus is here to stay similar to influenza It may weaken or we will build up immunity to it but I dont think its actually going away for good I just hope it doesnt mutate stronger|1 Ah I see thank you|1 So lets say someone stops taking an ACE inhibitor does that graph go down or are we talking longlasting changes to the cells the body produces|0 You seem similarly prepared as I am How long a time period do you think you could last on your food supply without restocking in a worst case scenario Just comparing notes you dont have to answer if you dont want to|1 PSA Kaiser will cover corona testing 100 with no copay and deductible at both their clinics and other clinics that are certified to administer the test|0 Wow sorry youre going through this hopefully it all turns out to be good news but thank you for complying and accepting the quarantine just in case so none of you spread this further to othersHow old are youWhat about other family members in the householdDo you have food stocked up|1 Isnt it weird there hasnt been any cases in subshara Africa|1 What you are giving me is your intuition What I am giving you is a series of scientific studies on the topic in the video At the end of the day a mask is a physical barrier that helps stop virus particles from entering your mouth I look to the studies for how effective that is|1 why the fuck is health secretary using media to ask companies if anyones willing to make ventilators come forward is that what this tweet is about arent people who watch this news think shouldnt health secretary use the government resources he has to figure a way to get ventilators and then use media to update people on progress on that whats going on for real|0 Where when and how did they do that Im a Bernie supporter and Ive found their coverage to be considerably less biased than other sources The Washington Post has destroyed its credibility in my eyes|0 Perhaps she had enough of the virus in her saliva transferred to her hands and touched the public appliance like a water dispenser or a coffee mug in the break room Too many possibilities there are|1 Not a lawyer here But I found some info about the use of unapproved medical devices during emergencies There is also something called Crisis Standards of Carehttpswwwfdagovregulatoryinformationsearchfdaguidancedocumentsemergencyuseauthorizationmedicalproductsandrelatedauthorities|0 As a portuguese I can tell you its pretty goodIf we get those numbers its game over|1 Plus the specialized test they do to check if the virus you have is covid instead of just the flu is 3500 from according to somewhere else on reddit that I read Like who the fuck is going to voluntarily do that aside from the 1 of the population|0 Probably because you have to pay for it Usa healthcare smh|0 murdered|0 Weirdly the hoarders dont seem to care about coffee at all That aisle has been stocked at all stores Ive been to Thankfullyit was the first thing I prioritized having at home during this thing|0 Stop eating our fucking animals all South Africans|0 Ok John Oliver may be the last person you should be getting information from even if he is right in this instance Dude is a hack|1 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpswwwnbcchicagocomnewslocalchicagopublicschoolsemployee6thcoronaviruspatientinillinois2232615 reduced by 87 Im a bot A Chicago Public Schools aide has been diagnosed with the coronavirus state and local officials said at a news conference Friday evening CPS also addressed questions about whether the Chicago school district would consider closing schools as coronavirus concerns persist The Illinois Department of Public Health launched a statewide hotline for the coronavirus also known as COVID19 quotTo answer any questions from the public or to report a suspected casequot Pritzker saidExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsfexww1chicagopublicschoolsemployee6thcoronavirus FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 473866 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords coronavirus1 Chicago2 School3 state4 tests5|1 So youre saying its worse than the NYT Thats pretty bad|0 This is why Im hoping theyre saying it just to get the government to put into place more drastic measures to contain it Theres no reason to even consider doing this right now|1 He is definitely in the running for 2020 Darwins award|1 Literally one day ago every single journalist out there was hating on Trump for basically doing the same thing Lol|0 But once your sick but not having trouble breathing you will be told to remain home for a extended period no as well as who ever lives with you because they will likely be infected already|0 0005 of the population 1900 people in Canada in yearCOVID19 is 16 mortality rate 680 000 Canadian could die I just realized the whole point of your post is facade Especially since their are only 56 000 hospital beds in Canada excluding QuebecEdit just used my google fu all numbers are prob old but still give you an idea|0 and being the most powerful country in the world dont forget that part|1 Yes you need goggles And a hood Also I couldnt find indirect vented Goggles for a reasonable price so some silicon to fill in the vents will work fine|1 While I dont want any Americans to die I feel that if this company is the one that ultimately creates the vaccine they should provide it to every citizen of every third world country before a single dose gets sent to the United States We deserve it for giving the presidency to a bankrupt D list reality TV star|0 Rest of Europe is still seething their favorite sportsball was cancelled over what they believe to be the flu|0 corona isnt an option in the drop down list of of jobs i think it gets assignedpushed to you server sideheres the list of possible corona codes you can be working onalso if youre using the web interface to see progress be sure to click on the gpu tab to see relevant progresshttpsfoldingathomeorg20200310covid19updatemy work unit right now is 11746 0 9523 1|1 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole Anyone who had been bitten would look at the bronze snake and be healedAnd as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of man be lifted up Perfect love casts out fear Set your eyes on the Messiah and youll be Healed from any spiritual disease|1 Steps are good but repeat step 7 with each finger as wellNo less than 30 seconds and use enough soap to lather and hot water soap doesnt lather properly in cold water well it light if you wait long enough|1 Thank you|1 I guess Tiger Woods isnt safe then either|0 I do at times Pee and laugh concurrently too|1 People who have complications often develop permanent lung damage The aftermath is going to be ugly too|0 Yes|1 Thank you for this ray of hope Please post again when you know more|1 No need to god will save them s|1 what the fuck do they think the Center for Disease Control is supposed to be for|0 Im sure she tendered a resignation and was rejected|0 Playing devil advocate but technically those werent failures since you stole their wealth and kept it yourselves thus benefiting your own kind Moral failure absolutely|1 Yeah the article was way crazy Here it ishttpswwwcnncom20200130asiachinesehealthcarevirusintlhnkindexhtml Its the first article from the the US MSM that is showing what its really like There have been a few the the last couple days in NYT and WaPo that kinda beat around the bush saying its worse than were really saying But this iswow Its really long but worth the read|1 no actually china builds hospitals crazy fucking fast like the above comment said they did the same thing with SARS and its still standing|0 Im also in Beijing no need to panic yet but I recommend getting foodwater supplies and any masksmedical stuff you can and just bunker down in your apartment Plan on being there for as long as possible and dont give yourself reason to go out If you do masks gloves and even swimming goggles Maybe not all of those quite yet depending on where your going and the level of crowds around but i think by Feb 8 or so well know just how bad things are Thats when the 114 day incubation period is up after all the spring festival traveling and intermixing Still time to prepare though and i doubt youve caught it unless you traveled or were around areas with people who traveled|1 Quick someone make a curb your enthusiasm meme out of this|1 Im glad to hear this because issuing a state of emergency and public health crisis whatever this weekend is still causing a panic and throwing off supply at the local stores They cant keep the shelves stocked fast enough to keep up HEB put a limit of 4 per transaction on many essential items to help but its still pretty barren in the stores|1 On YouTube watch Joe Rogan Experience 1439 Michael OsterholmA very informative podcast with someone that has experience with this Covid19 as well as previous outbreaks including the SARS virus The reality of this situation is concerning Having the professional perspective of this makes a whole lot more sense than the fluff the news outlets have been feeding us The fact that left me a little more concerned is how someone can be incredibly contagious over a week before they will have the noticeable symptoms of the virus Wonder where you can find a bubble boy suit|0 Variations of No outsiders allowed|0 ok but enterovirus can spread via reapiratory tract too|1 How is that such a big fucking problemYou have to have them fit to you for them to even work Thats why those of us in healthcare who use these frequently get fit tested every year You should research how these masks work and what fit testing entails rather than assuming all you need to do is push a metal thingy|1 You are too relaxed and are trying to down play the 2019nCoV the strain that we havent fully understood while we know how flu works and can react more swiftly and promptly with vaccines Treating the nCoV just like flu as you said is underestimating the virus The China gov had the same mindset in 20022003 with SARS They didnt believe SARS could be that devastating untill too late Their people and world suffered from it China must learn a thing or two from that|0 Not sure if my comment seems to imply something otherwise but I completely agree with everything youve said here Id say the coverup seemed to end maybe around 117 or so and numbers after that point have been to the best of their ability with a bias toward not reporting suspicions which is more reasonable than straight up notmisreporting Although I have seen a couple bits of news media reporting in the last two days of untested fatalities being cremated without being tested or having tissue reserved for testing so who knowsThe upper limit on testsday is likely why were seeing the number of officially suspected cases going up at an increasing rate and its also why tonights increase in confirmations is a bad sign Theyre likely confirming a large number of the patients theyre testing and testing nearly as many patients as possible implying that there are more cases of likely infections than they were able to test|1 A lot of findings in this study are quite different from previous studies including the sensitivity of radiological findings prevalence of fever and lymphocyte counts I felt like I knew some of the highly sensitive but non specific features of covid before reading this study Now I am at a loss Feels like driving blind|0 I need the source for this meme please |1 Idk why you are getting downvoted that made me burst out laughing|1 Awesome thanks for the answer|1 Thank you|1 They wont but its not because they cant lol Its because they wont|0 My mans pass me the rig|0 I told someone high up at a major coffee company that serves terrible coffee and gross donuts that should close their stores and they basically told me that they are in it for the money and dont give a shit about the people Coffee chains treat their employees like slaves and now wont close to prevent the deaths of their employees and customers unless they are ordered to do so|1 Posted this like 10 hours ago and got rammed for it Hahahaha How times change|1 Dang thank you so much Ill check it out|0 Because then how would American big pharma companies rake in billions in profits off the suffering and death of their fellow citizens|0 bluechipsupplycom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Best to stay home Even better stay home and also vote in policies so that the staff that rely on these places for income get some government support and healthcare so that when we deal with pandemics they dont have to be more worried about making rent than the virus itselfA good person does both|1 Does anyone know what are the characteristics demographics of the people who have died or are worsening Is it similar to what you expect from the flu Any data on this Young elderly immunocompromised Received care too late|0 Its about the economy and the stock market Shutting down the economy will make him look bad in an election year|0 With how dense our city is and how much aircon we have the virus would have no issue transmitting in those places instead|0 Ok wait There is hummus delivery|1 They havent closed their schools yet We closed ours over like 5 cases and we dont live nearly a quarter as dense as NYC|1 Well physical contact We could still easily talk to each other through wireless communications They would likely have their own bacteria or viruses or even something similar but totally different that we dont have too|1 your own links claims that Congress did not allow trump to do any cuts Try again|0 Neither infected enough people showed enough infectiousness to truly be a wake up call for the world The 2009 Flu pandemic was a wake up call that we can have serious nontrivial not that the large amount of people that die yearly from the flu are trivial just that its normalized to a degree pandemics in the modern era The questions that should have been asked then include what if the next one is worse|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Iran has a horrible health care system They ignored the problem too long Religeous customs like kissing common objects likely spread this like wild fire I dont think you can infere anything from that country other than they are experimenting by letting SARSCoV2 burn itself outIran is growing new cases at an average daily rate of 75 since Feb 20 and the speed of spread is accelerating Mortality is 31 but officials have said they believe they have thousands of undiagnosed cases|1 My question is with travels being banned and borders being closed what happens to those left inside the US who is from one of the areas that travel is banned or borders are closed|0 Have you ever heard of six degrees of separation httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSixdegreesofseparationThe virus has been confirmed to be spreading for weeks in the US No one is denying that at this pointYou dont need to be any contact with anyone that was in another country to get itAnd if everyone self quartines if they have symptoms then they are potentially saving lives Its the right thing to do until we have drive through testing|0 Thanks for the great reference The Road to Reality wrote by him is an ever pending book on my list to be read|1 Id think the greater obstacle is the thousands who came here directly from Wuhan prior to the quarantine who arent even being tracked while the CDC is too busy obsessing over contact Tracing for the handful of known cases|0 Oh that makes sense then Ive read that the infected are most contagious before they show symptoms If you didnt see anyone during that time it would make sense you didnt spread it|0 Im legit trying to find this answer Im in Alabama Whats about to happen Everyone says this everyone die Run out of toilet paper No food Overwhelming health care|0 Did you feel you had to accent my uninformed with unbelievably No but no sane person should be listening to you with regard to safety and disease control And yet here on reddit your opinion carries as much weight as a virologist|0 Right Why is she running and dodging between peopleIf he wants to avoid infection then he should avoid touching her He should not dive in for excessive contact|0 can you clarify this study I am not understanding what seems like conflicting data nbspfrom results sectionReduction in virus on hands and fomites with use of the ABHS was statistically significant there was a drop in the total number of sites that were contaminated from the control to intervention The percents of sites that were contaminated in the control baseline for Phase 1 and 2 was 9798 and 9712 respectively and after intervention contaminated sites dropped to 6492 in Phase 1 and to 5180 in Phase 2Which seems like a 3040 reduction in contamination Butfrom discussion sectionThe use of the ABHS both once and three times a day was found to reduce the concentration of viruses on both the hands and commonly touched fomites by 99 in the studied householdsSo does sanitizer use reduce contamination by 40 or a whopping 99|1 I saw 2 virologists arguing about it on a BBC show and you could just tell the one who was against it was struggling not to call the other one a moron|0 A friend of mine had his Asian coworker come back from a 2 week trip to Thailand with a face mask on and coughing At the same time he was giving out Chinese coins to make people think he was sick My friend got HR involved and that shit immediately stopped Some people are just completely mentally imbalanced they dont give two shits about the person next to them|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Sounds like a good ole fashioned jiggity lick|1 Im just gonna let idiots be idiotsOh the irony|0 I think the manner in which it came out also made it more impactful Gobert acting a fool because its no big deal touching all the mics only to be diagnosed with it was probably very relatable for all Americans who didnt take it seriously|0 Kung fluIf this wouldve happened in murica would that be pizza flu|0 Perhaps you should strongly request that they be cleaned more often given the current state of affairs A lot of places are increasing the cleaning routine and this seems like a very good idea|1 In Zhengzhou I believe he have to register when entering the city by planetraincar now Supermarketsconvenience storessome fast food is open Everything else is closed Mcdonalds said it was stopping deliveries till the 10th|0 There are a half dozen recent articles from respected news sources New York Times Washington Post etc that go into depth on the lack of test kits and people needing to try different hospitals trying to get testedEdit heres the latest from just a few minutes ago link to new york timeshttpswwwnytimescom20200202worldasiachinacoronaviruswuhanhtmlutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfclickhttpstcok9w3BxFT0u|1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200320 035035 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003202003503520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCanadaCoronaviruscommentsfe6pxkcanwenotturnthisintoajustintrudeauhatefjmc3szcontext31 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCanadaCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffe6pxk2Fcanwenotturnthisintoajustintrudeauhate2Ffjmc3sz2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032020033A503A3520UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fe6pxkInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Hey Ill take 6 nurses in a bed anytime|0 How would buying masks at Walmart Lowes or Walgreens in any way effect healthcare workers from getting masks when their companies and hospitals are ordering from distribution centers or directly from manufacturers Last time I checked I dont think they are sending hospital staff to pick up N95s from the local Walmart The people are not responsible for the government and the hospitals failure to plan If individuals would like to buy masks they are more than in rights to do so If someone wants to buy a pallet of TP because they are worried and have extra cash to spend they can|0 It might not have reached Iran if China worked well and didnt hide shit|1 my main takeaway is that this is all that guy tonys fault|0 Im a testicular cancer survivor who went through BEP chemo treatments that ended in Oct 2019 I know bleomyocin is hard on the lungs does that mean Im in the higher fatality risk category|0 Imagine trusting CNN after they were forced to correct wrong information about 20 times in the past years|0 You dont have to be rich to afford an 81 plane ticket|1 There were early papers about how this virus appears to mutare quickly as one family has shown significant genetics difference in JanuaryThen there is a selection bias as a virus spread For example the most virulent cases will quickly be isolated and less likely to spread their severe strain of the virus People with milder cases tend to be more asymptomatic so they will spread their milder strain to more people The reverse happened in 1918 as soldiers with severe case were put on criwded trains and milder ones stayed in operations this was a big factor back thenCare availability is also a big factor A good proportion of the cases reported in France and Singapore needed advanced care but the low case number make these care available If there is more spread and their respective health system gets overwhelmed like in Wuhan you are likely to see increased mortality as each case you cant treat with proper care is more likely to dieAlso there are reports that it takes over two weeks until situation takes a turn for the worse and then another week to fatality This will skew statistics a lot and we need 12 more weeks of outofChina statistics to estimate a CTR from known resolved cases|1 Yes shes Chinese This paperhttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200126919985v1 says Asian has the highest risk since the ACE2 in them are higher than other races while SARS and ncov specially attack human body through this point|0 Right my point is I think a large percentage of people who find out they have it even without severe symptoms will go to a hospital anyway Which would be the fear if we just mail every American a test|0 I celebrate Dr Chu and her team I am horrified beyond measure that we are doing so|1 So youre saying to me if I want to go to the strip club and get a lap dance I should just choose a black girl and then I wont get the coronavirus|1 There must be a list somewhere of every dropped ball Fire pandemic response team Delegitimize CDC Refuse WHO test Ignore warnings Trump met w Gates re this in 2018 Faulty tests Delay in releasing tests|0 No vote in Nov|0 Perfect tests The most perfect tests|1 Well then let the public sew masks for the already infected Infected need masks to stem the spread The infected will also need medical supplies Point is the communities should organize and make use of the Human Resources it has right now Something can always be done versus nothing|0 Yeah itll be the first thing to do Hope Im not receiving late night unpleasant calls for them Or maybe visits|1 Youre 100 right People dont realize how generic respiratory symptoms are Any given flu season theres always a handful of flu like illnesses that bounce aroundI guarantee you that no one here quietly got Corona 8 weeks ago What a silly thing to extrapolate I uh had a cough and tight chest and shortness of breathing back in Dec and so did my coworkers so it might of been Corona If this was spreading as early and as widespread as some people here suspect then the hospitals would have already been overwhelmed and at the brink of imploding Why would a bunch of the most vulnerable people in society suddenly start keeling over months after widespread transmission had begun No its when you see those spikes in ER visits that you can say something is up|0 And DORNA a motorsport interest group from spain just cancellled opening race of MotoGP at Qatar just a week before the event|1 I think a more realistic hope is that China slowly picks up speed again and produces the required items|1 I feel like this is staged|1 You must be so fun at parties|1 A part of his job is to keep his team healthy Most professional sports teams have a team doctor for just this reason He can cancel press publicity events He can cancel training He can suggest require quarantine of players staff that travelled to impacted locations He can reiterate the safety protocols wash hands stay a social distance from people to his players staff|1 I think the disaster has happened Just like Chernobyl There was the event then people got sick|0 Yeah I get the news stations have to get views and such but fear mongering is totally uncalled for|0 I decided I should get some N95 masks today so I went to my local painting supply store and picked up a couple boxes There were plenty more on the shelves and I dont live in some podunk town Im in a major metropolitan areaIf you cant order masks through any of the big online retailers or big box stores where everyone shops you might have better luck at specialty places where masks are usually sold painting gardening etc|1 The West squandered it because 80 of the people claimed it was fake Even still the USA is full of deniers Look its right on front of you now|0 Fear is normal healthy and productive in these circumstances httpwwwpsandmancomcolfearhtmhttpwwwpsandmancomcolfearhtmx200BIts like these idiot politicians have absolutely no understanding of humans and how they work Which is literally the only thing theyre expected to be knowledgeable of|0 i mean for your fellow humans well be doomed|0 Hmm reading this is like drinking orange juice in the morning What a lovely way to start the day|1 Idk the headline is literally that the man donated 17700 hand sanitizers The response dont care to me misses the point I agree fuck that guy but now people in need have access to his suppliesThis is to me like when people complain when billionaires donate millions of dollars because they only do it for reasons I couldnt care less about the reasons I care about the end result|0 I really hope that We have a lot of military bases here so at least they should believe and listen what their military is saying|1 No its not Israel is fearmongering as always|0 It just baffles me because even with that tight of monitoring wont at least ONE infected person slip through the cracks What happens then|0 IdiotsGetting drunk isnt this important|0 Ugh my roommates sister is supposed to be staying over in a week or so I dont think its a good idea but what can I say Shes coming in from Illinois north suburban IL to be exact were in Houston|0 Oh yeah Definitely Just never one bad enough to put me out of comission for a week Usually like a 2 day virus Plus I smoked cigarettes weed for about 20 years|1 This is a person who was repatriated on a flight out of Wuhan Not a diagnosed case separate Definitely not surprising|1 Only listened to a podcasts with a German virologist and Im most certainly no expert on this But the virologist said that short but reliable antigen tests that will probably look similar to pregnancy tests arent out yet and he predicts that theyll only be available in good numbers in 23 months The short tests being produced right now are only antibody tests that will not become positive until the patient has been ill for at least a week They dont test for the virus but only for the reaction of the immune system and that reaction takes a while I guess the test still has its merits in hospitals to quickly identify infections in patients that have been sick for a while and start to show severe symptoms But its no full replacement for the PCR tests done right now or not done in this case|0 If we were going to be sensible and pragmatic about keeping mortality down wed have acted weeks ago Boris Johnsons plan here is to attempt to balance mortality with affect on the economy and he will fail at both|0 Last week I went to the ER bc I thought I had the flu Tested negative for that and bronchitis but Im still feeling a little icky my cough has gotten better Im a type 1 diabetic and my blood sugars have been insane I thought about being tested but figured it wont happen|0 If the US is one of the last to get hit is there a way to forecast the impact of health care effectiveness due to medical supply shortages from trade and work being halted around the worldI keep thinking this disease has the potential to kill people who were never infected just by disrupting our way of life|0 There is at least one phenomenal movie hereSaving National IconSickVirus in SeattleForrest TrumpTheyre awful I know I accept your downvotes|0 Be me has been working from home for 3 years pretty much never leaves the house cuz im a shut in and have Amazon Prime Have a husband who is mission essential personelle in the Navy and must go to work no matter what Also they flew in people for quarantine at his base Sad |0 That subreddit has been banned for a while now same with similar subreddits|0 I understand though you should probably also keep him away from everyone even if he just has the seasonal flu|0 When you look at all the PPE China medical workers have hazmat suit N95 mask goggles boots gloves its quite laughable that we cant even provide masks for our hospital staff The outbreak will be way worse here just in terms of medical staff infections And last count I saw is that 5000 medical workers were infected in China In the USA plan on it being 50000 minimumAnd even with all of Chinas knowledge and personal protective equipment a lot of doctors and nurses have died there|0 Science has become politicized and when something becomes politicized it becomes corruptThis isnt completely crazy but if thats your measure what hasnt become political and is therefore not corrupt|1 Im glad that some CEOs or other ultra wealthy individuals are stepping up but THEY SHOULD BE The argument against high taxes that would fund more public resources such as health initiatives and social safety nets is that in the US we would prefer to allow private individuals to fund charity and philanthropy This is part of the social contract We should expect this|1 I support this|1 thats why am I fkn disgusted of my neighbors they rushed back from austria now I see their kids and both of the parents playing outside without giving a damn about the quarantine Fuck them|0 Yup shit city My college isnt planning on moving online until we have a confirmed case despite the fact that no one is getting tested|0 My mum is in an at risk category and is having to collect my niece and nephew from school because my sister is at work It would be far safer for her if the kids were off school a not socialising The risk to grandparents looking after children off school do not stack up Much like the rest of the governments strategies|1 It definitely does help My groups focus is on rational vaccine design based on genetics Its great that there are many vaccine development groups using different approaches We are able to stratify vaccine response more precisely based on genetics so the probability of finding multiple viable vaccines for different genetic backgrounds is higher|1 The defining aspect of capitalism is the return on capital Youre right that it is possible to use your own accumulated wealth as capital but youre wrong in that its the only way or the oldfashioned way that it was done Financing on debt has been around for millenia to the point where I couldnt tell you which is older between debt and capitalism Im guessing loans and debt Regardless putting capital at risk is part and parcel of capitalism and that includes financing from investors or creditorsI also dont see much evidence that selffinanced capital drives more prudent investment exhibit A Bloomberg|0 Try and get some lozenges with a low level of zinc in There was a study a while ago that showed that zinc protects your throat from viruses so that will take away 1 way for it to get into your body You want it to be a low dosage as you dont want to over dose on zinc Ive found some zinc and vit c fizzy tabs that you could drop into a water bottle once youre through bag check and then sip on Ive also been wearing headphones when I go out as I know my ears are a weak point Also I get to listen to audiobooks I wonder if a nasal rinse would be helpful or not Sterimar is pretty awesome if you do decide to nasal rinseI hope your trip goes well|1 Into stock buybacks to artificially inflate shareholder value|1 While im immeditely inclined to agree this is also a good way to keep beds open in your hospital for the severe cases|1 this shit is really not serious for the USA and never will beSo its only serious if its serious for the USA What is wrong with you Believe it or not some of us are actually interested and concerned about events that happen in other places|0 In two hundred years roaches will be relieved to learn that it was just a sheer coincidence|1 Well yeah it was 830 in the morning when you looked everyone probably isnt up yet still|1 Im ready to stand up and protest my government|1 youre kidding right killing thousands just to be able to call a full lockdown is a problem deaths within families is more of a problem to people than anything|0 Head of CDC said today there was no way theyd be able to get to that level of testing and that it was a failure on their part|0 That is stupid in a way that it sounds like something an antivaxxer would say and it is the worst time for them to appear for this virus but not so stupid in a way that we dont know what could happen in 10 years But this kinda has absplutely no relevance I mean the article is just about a breakthrough not a vaccine|0 They could also reduce risk to their employees by doing online ordering and curbside pickup|0 During the third phase lung damage continues to buildwhich can result in respiratory failure Even if death doesnt occur some patients survive with permanent lung damage According to the WHO SARS punched holes in the lungs giving them a honeycomblike appearanceand these lesions are present in those afflicted by novel coronavirus toohttpswwwnationalgeographiccomscience202002hereiswhatcoronavirusdoestothebody|0 I feel that as well I get season tickets to LA Galaxy every year and this years opener just felt unsafe to be at Not worth the risk|1 In what way are you getting fucked|0 Im upset by this Perhaps its because Im a medical worker but my wife has been on board with us stockpiling nonperishables and essential items for the house We got the space we got the available money It doesnt hurt to prepare Everything that we purchase will be used within the next two years Hell is buying pasta and beans means we save money on eating out for the year which is a huge plus Im sorry that this is happening to you|1 Too bad its just for flavor because caffeine in the coffee isnt going to last that long|0 I think its more likely he died from coronavirus but at the same time I see your point It would be pretty easy to kill people unnoticed with so many thousands of people dying We still havent heard anything about those two journalists who disappeared sooo|0 Its more valuable to criticise both than to suddenly give China a pass because the CDC also just so happens to like to take dick in the ass|0 Another tip Each dressed and ready for each day like u would when ur going out to work or the shops It helps get ur mind going and start up ur day Breaks the mold|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I posted this yesterday but I will againI have a few n95 masks that I really want to get to you guys I had them for handling powdered lime gardening Im sure others have n95 masks for their hobbies that would love to donate Hell Im sure some hoarders are feeling shit about it now and would love to donate Please someone reading who has knowledge of this healthcare system if it is helpful to do so and if these masks can be sterilized and used organize a donation drive or something so that the rest of us can be heroes for our healthcare workers for once and send them a fuckton of masks|1 also in ruralWNY I was doing my usual shopping today and I buy for several people the cashier at Wegmans was very slow nbd but spent about 5 minutes with the mid 50swoman he was cashing out talking about how people that were concerned about Covid19 are crazy and this isnt a big deal the entire time the women kept looking back and glaring at me like lady I could give a shit lol Im a vegetarian I need lots of beans pasta oats etc to get through the week mind your businessI had no soap sanitizer toilet paper or anything else that people have been hoarding in my cart everything that I bought there was plenty of no need to be so nasty also this very much is a big deal to a lot of people I have plenty of friends and family that are immunosuppressed and are at a higher risk for complications with Covid19 the I know better than everyone else including the CDC and WHO mindset endangers those people and makes you look like a dick|0 Literally not the same thing That is an armored vehicle that can take multiple RPG strikes the Hongqi L5 is a steaming pile of shit just watch the last season of Grand Tour where they went ot China and drove it with no armor at all built for the wealthy in China|0 Because I havent traveled out of the country and have no known contact with anyone who has tested positive Apparently they dont realize community spread is the main culprit of spreading|1 Im just kinda yelling at the imaginary people who say those things sorry lol|1 Its pretty insane Ive known several doctors all of whom are opposed to marketing medicine directly to consumers even|1 Awesome Loving the leadership from the private sector A government mandate to close dine in restaurants state by state would have taken a while|1 Yeah I just noticed that I hope theyre alright I wont be able to update in as much detail as they have been but Ill update the case and death totals daily along with the graphs and hopefully the creator of that other one gets better fast|1 Another good way of thinking about this If you give me no paid sick time I will give you no paid novel viruses|0 Good luck and stay safe|1 Dont get it twisted though it will not be like Rudds Cormann said himself Apparently there are already existing mechanisms helping householdsMy bet is another tax break for businesses They want to avoid making any decisions that might even remotely be similar to Rudd even if the cost is the economy and our lives|0 The president continues to downplay the threat from the virus He was contradicted by his own scientific advisers during his news conference His response team is run by his VP with no experience and is staffed by a number of his cronies The fact that hes attacking Democrats using the virus to try and score political points shows his lack of seriousness I mean hes holding mass rallies during an outbreak for christsake|0 Many doctors and nurses in Wuhan had keep work without PPE until early Feb Most infected number of medical workers is from Jan 10 early Feb|0 Man I love that story Im sure as soon as his big family started coming over for holidays they probably folded you and your mom in seemlessly right I bet you immediately felt like you belonged with them Besides what I said about my holidays the first friends I ever made at my job when I started were the hispanic people that worked there I came in the first morning and I think they could tell I was shy and scared so one guy just said hey hows it going or something simple along those lines while I was basically hiding in a shadow in the corner and I immediately felt much more comfortable Their culture has a lot of qualities I really hope to have myself someday I aspire to be that loving warm and fun|1 Of course they show up They are the reason we have the virus The Chinese now have to save face|1 To my knowledge SKs infection is made up of a larger percentage of young people than normal thanks to the cult being predominantly age 2040 year olds|1 Fear mongering This sub is becoming unhealthy for people Likely a lot of this is caused from people coming into the country|0 Waiting for report from Italy Korean or Japan What else you really need More people dying Stop focus on numbers The truth is that this is fking contagious virus|0 Fever slows down virus replication and also helps immune cells work better including speeding up the process of generating antibodies against the pathogen So fever precedes or overlaps with antibodies|1 not a hospital a containmen facility the images look like a plague hospice|1 Me either till I moved to Japan Its a cultural thing there and some scientists decided to test it The random tests show a roughly 18 decrease in colds when people do that So the effect isnt enormous but slightly helpful I added an edit you might have missed but basically gargling has a chance to catch viruses before they attach to your cells while theyre trapped in your mucus|0 Who is advocating panic|0 There are some but hard to say as how many people pass out on the street on The daily and arent uploaded to the interwebs|0 Its planned They call it powermoves Trump is obsessed with these nonexistent dick measuring contests Like with his my handshake is stronger bullshit|0 I dont think it is the case in all Italy but for my university Bologna were taking online courses so we actually just lost last week|0 Dr Anthony Fauci a leading expert on the spread of infectious diseases working with President Donald Trumps administration to contain the COVID19 outbreak told Fox News on Tuesday that the virus would be ten times more lethal than the seasonal flu with a mortality rate of 1 percent|0 Just saw this thread on Twitter Bad experiences are like pain loud and memorable When things go smoothly often no one talks about it This woman had a great experience at our hospital so that seems worth something|0 You dont need to show me you need to show those thousands of people without masks Or hoarders could have just baught a box or two and saved some for other people who may just look for masks at the cvs and thought oh well too bad No masks And go on with their life Funny it is the people who have 1000 masks who likely know they can wear a scarf and be protected Oh the irony so hoarders actually contribute directly to more infections|1 This is what I did as well I would suddenly have the urge to smoke and I made myself wait until the next separate time I had the urge So if I normally had a cigarette every hour I would end up waiting until I was having a cigarette every two hours Two turned to four etc Worked surprisingly well|1 I can hear the frustration in the doctors voice as he is on the front line dealing with the problemI saw that the test kits were not accurate in china and SK Sounds like the CDC had a tough time getting an accurate test kitmight also explain why China was not testing that many people as well CDC sent out test kits then recalled them Sunday shows said test kits are being sent out What is worse unreliable test kits early or a reliable test a few weeks into this thing Also heard that within a few weeks the US will be able to test 20K a day and at a more local level|0 can only speak for germany but yes if its decided they need air evac to save your hide in case of medical emergency not if you are a dumbass stuck on a rock you wont pay anything|0 My one share of Microsoft stock has something to say lolConsidering there are 7753 billion shares Ill take my fraction of that thank you|1 Utah isnt testing everybody whos had contact with confirmed cases 21 assumed positive and 1 person j know is Ill are being turned away from testing even tho she has contact with a security employee of Vivint smart home the jazz NBA arena who is not sick yet but continues to secure the arena 5 days a week|1 FREE ACCESS The New York Times is providing free access to our most important updates and most useful guidancehttpswwwnytimescomnewseventcoronavirusactionclickmoduleRelatedLinkspgtypeArticle on the global coronavirus crisis|1 Singapore seems to be doing 100x better than USA|1 Because if people get tested there can be more confirmed cases then the numbers go up and Trump already said he doesnt need the numbers going up It would be bad for him|0 got to create a virus to create a vaccine for it USRussiaEU militarys do it all the time|1 Present But Im about mentally exhausted from trying to inform my family and friends because no one listens to me|0 There used to be a cultural practice in China which deliberately binds womens feet and admires the beauty of deformed feet And it was rightfully abandoned after the last emperor abdicated Cultural practice like this should be flushed into the toilet ASAP|1 Weve taken the highway to the danger zone|0 What facts are you talking about The first article I found with coronavirus cruise ship air ducts says that the way the HVAC system was designed makes it extremely unlikely it spread that way httpswwwswzmaritimenlnews20200220hvacnotlikelytoplayroleincoronavirusspreadoncruiseshipgdpracceptMore articles I read say the same thing no evidence to suggest it spread through the air ducts more likely it spread through contact and respiratory droplets|0 Reporter Ministry says delay is due to the multiple lab testing sites such as hospitals now adding testinghttpstwittercommeyerlucasstatus1240307523317612545Also Doug Ford is doing a Presser at 1pm maybe he will break the news on TV like BC government yesterday when they announced 83 new cases|1 Until the coronavirus attacked|0 Theres a report stating that if we do nothing this could kill 90 millionpeople globally due to lack of respirators Im getting ready for work so Ill find it for you later|1 thank God we currently live in a free society and can find the information in lots of other places|1 It has a roughly 12 week incubation period And we know its possible to remain asymptomatic after that 2 week period and still be contagious but we have no idea how many people fall into this category because we arent testing asymptomatic people Theres just no way the reported numbers are anywhere close to the reality|0 This is a pretty small scale petition but someone has gotten one going for the marathon and I do think its worth the minimal effort of a few clicks to sign ithttpswwwchangeorgplosangelescountydepartmentofpublichealthpetitiontopostpone2020losangelesmarathonmarch8duetocoronavirusconcernssignedtruehttpswwwchangeorgplosangelescountydepartmentofpublichealthpetitiontopostpone2020losangelesmarathonmarch8duetocoronavirusconcernssignedtrue|1 Im just waiting for it to come out that the virus originated at the secure biowarfare lab 7km from the Wuhan market and the market was an easy scapegoat|1 Sounds a lot like reckless endangerment to me|0 Lol ok So lets all just pretend that the majority of Reddit users an American company btw arent American and that accounts are distributed across countries according to population Sounds reasonable|1 This subreddit was perpetuating the obvious lie and attacking people who said otherwise|0 The CDC says you should Two weeks worth at a gallon per person|1 Dont beat yourself up Im not certain why that sentence is so easy to misread its actually quite clear but I also misread it when glancing over it the first time|0 This is probably a stupid question but I cant help but wonder Who is allowed to go to work in an event of a quarantine I work at a pet supply store that also sells live animals In the event of something like a quarantine will someone be allowed to come in and take care of them Obviously we are not getting any new animals right now because of all of this but we still have the ones that are currently there|1 Indeed Were under some pretty severe restrictions right now|1 There was also a rash of pneumonia deaths in Georgia around December|0 Look at the statistics in South KoreaIm not an expert on viruses by any means however Ive been working with a friend in biology and Im into statistics and the picture being painted there is much better at least relative to what were used to seeingThey are handling the situation well too though so many factors you cant account for|1 Remember when everyone on here was all up in arms when Japan said they couldnt test all 3700 people on the diamond princess The US can only test 50 to 100 people a day|1 I hope it will be better indeed They dont rely on honesty for identity check public health is also important|1 Sobering|0 Some vaccine trials done for SARS produced significantly worse symptoms upon reinfection in mice Im sorry Im too lazy to find you links but they cant be too hard to find Furthermore the concept of antibodydependent enhancement is a very real thing and I think other people in this thread have mentioned Dengue fever as an example|0 We might as well just make up our own numbers at this point tbh|1 What other cases that might prove this spreads asymptomaticI think this is one of those times where individuals have a higher tolerance towards a coughfeverPeople that smoke or have hayfever for example may coughsneeze time to time So if they get infected and coughsneeze They might think its just another coughsneeze they usually haveMost people that are unknowingly spreading the virus are probably showing very mild symptoms that they can easily suppress or have a high tolerance towards Most people dont visit the doctor for a minor cough right They only visit when they cannot tolerate whatever is happening to them So when they visit maybe their cough got so bad they couldnt take it anymore and they tell their doctor oh ive had this cough for 12 days But actually theyve been coughing all over the place for maybe a week without noticing they have been infected and spreading|0 If you double every 3 days just ONE infected person from January 1st week it would almost 100000 people right now from 1 person Doubling doesnt mess around|0 I just heard that in German TV they said ah Italy again with the Diseases we are better prepared in Germany we got few Cases Yeah right|1 I would assume he has gotten tested and will continue to get tested or that the secret service or some other agency will ensure he gets tested and the question is of whether or not to tell the media about testing but given how bad he is at basic subtlety and keeping important information to himself maybe thats not the case|0 I dont think they even bother putting correction notices|0 My son is running a bit of fever and I went to 5 stores to try to buy a thermometer the other day All sold out The worry really set in after the third store By the fourth or fifth I probably would have grabbed it out of someones cart and started uncontrollably coughing until they went away|0 This has to be a joke|1 You really believe what you are saying Or you just saw your time to make some propaganda|0 Anything to keep the stock numbers pumped over the weekend I guess lolEdit man it really didnt work very well|0 I mean its not that Im not worried about people dyingBut personally I know my household are all young and healthy so we are lower risk of serious coronavirus complicationsHowever we are living paycheck to paycheck and losing income would be a really big problem for us I dont expect we would actually lose our house or anything but we have a 1year old child and I definitely want to make sure we are able to provide for him|1 I agree How can we fix this|1 Nice dude what flavors are popular for kfc in China Stay safe|1 Whatnobody retires and go north here in Italy Wtf you talking about Like most people retireand stay where they always lived for their entire life|0 I respect both sides of thinking Each person has their threshold Thing is we have to do what we feel is comfortable until there are mandatory guidelines For some the threat doesnt seam high where they are or where they might be going We have to use personal judgement For those that do for human sake shouldnt be criticized Its not as if they are breaking some sort of law We have to live rationally at the same time without panic|1 Being this dumb should be a crime|0 Im an unemployed depressed introvert AMA|0 I feel this I have only earned 23 hours of sick time at the company which I have worked at for 6 months I do not earn vacation time until 18 months Even then my vacation time is earned as like 20 mins of vacation pay for every 40 hours of work I cant afford not to work since I live paycheck to paycheck Waiting for management or someone in corporate to get sick sadly just so that they will do something about this because it is ultimately putting everyones health at risk|0 The system works well in a disaster Except most of life doesnt revolve around disasters The Chinese population embraced the measures because they were used to an oppressed atmosphereTheres a significant con to Chinas success|1 Not a worry this is a huge unknown and several reliable sources have changed their stance on it daily|1 Are you suggesting OP should only use data sets from sources with good mobile sites|1 Im surprised the mods havent arrived and started shoveling it yet|1 The WHO tweeted that CFR like two days ago believe it or not|1 I bought short term and long term food storage based on this Its not much but its something to get started Im not panicking yet but I keep thinking that if trucking goes down the grocery stores wont last long I dont want any part of Black Friday type shopping by an order of magnitude crazy|0 no u |0 As distressing as that must have been you now know you have it in you to keep going when people pass away It will happen to all of us at one point or another enjoy the time you have and know that even elderly people in high risk groups have recovered from the virus Stay safe and healthy Im worried too I have also experienced loss but it will be okay We are much more equipped for dealing with pain than we think at the time 3|0 More than 3000 healthcare workers are said to be infected And with Chinas retirement being 60 for men younger for women none of these healthcare workers workers are going to be elderly If you look at the raw fatality ratehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics deaths divided by infected cases its 02 for young adults under 40 04 for 4049 years old 02 of 3000 is 6 I dont know whats the breakdown by doctors vs other healthcare workers but 4 young doctors dead doesnt seem egregiously high And every dead doctor is being publicized as it is important to the narrative that they be celebrated as heroesmartyrs Even if doctors are indeed dying at a higher rate I would rank overwork and repeated exposures as more important factors than high viral load But certainly higher viral load of exposure could be a factor|0 Fucking for real Jeeeeeeesus Christ Jesus fucking Christ I try not to be a control freak but this being completely off the rails is scaring me|0 I have absolutely no faith in US healthcare response at this point I was there and I was sick I dont understand why they didnt just do the testing I told them Id show them proof if they didnt believe me Nothing|0 Were an IT company in Edinburgh Ive just mandated half of our workforce should work from home starting Monday morning We do not have any suspected cases as yet but fuck waiting until the symptoms start to show|0 Whats the mortality rate of obese people who got this virus I ask because the US has a notoriously obese population so things can get pretty serious over thereAre there other health factors that could increase the risk of death due due to this virus|0 Over in Australia were bitchin about how people off the street showing symptoms cant get a test but Tom Hanks can I mean we love him but were testing even less than you guys because of a severe shortage of tests|1 Disinfect youre phone and put in two or three plastic sandwich bags Discard the bags as needed throughout the day Never let your phone outside the bag when away from home|0 No just two mdash I dont believe MERSCoV has ever been officially referred to as a SARSCoV variant They and the current SARSCoV2 are all deadly varieties of coronavirus though httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirustypeshtmlLess deadly coronaviruses cause about 15 of common cold cases most of the rest are caused by rhinoviruses so there are a lot more than three coronaviruses|0 I think you give the government too much faith Where we live it would be stupid NOT to expect potentially long power outages and with a well 90 of my town that means loss of water as well|1 The Netherlands is beyond capacity and not going to admit anyone over 70Ehh source They had a special news segment just a few hours ago where they said they have extra currently closed down hospitals they can and will use once they hit capacity but theyre nowhere near that point yetI get that everyone is worried about this but make sure to back up your claims with sources to prevent fear mongering|0 People wanted a businessman as President this is what that looks like Trump has spent his entire career finding corners to cut to save money What good business keeps a pandemic response team on salary when there isnt a pandemic to respond toThis is why business people make lousy Presidents The country has to do things for the common good that arent necessarily profitable or immediately cost effective No company would willingly pay for volcano monitoring but it needs to get done so the government does it Think before you vote people This is the shit weve been warning about for years|1 Thanks for reply but I think just Asia will work India comes under South Asia|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Masks dont help prevent healthy people from being infected so healthy people should stop buying masks This distinction is clearly stated in both the cdcs website and official response Please educate yourself before spreading misinformation|0 I wonder if this pandemic will be a turning point in our society what do you think I hope that it is a turning point Id like to say there is no where to go but up but that isnt true People need to wake up now Alertness is not panic Be aware Think of others and not just yourself Treat your neighbor as you would your brother|0 Every modern western country just smiles out of pity for you|1 Amazing is the BS they try to sell to the public|1 They still click a TOS that states they will let Google sell their data to partners and Google still harvest uses and sells the data for profit|1 That doesnt make any sense If they are quarantined and separated 14 day will not need to be restarted even if someone shows symptomHow incompetent do you think Japanese government is|0 I actually spent a few hours today trying to figure out how to make reusable masks I know how to sew and saw a ton of tutorials online I have large stockpile of fabric and once I figure it out Im going to start churning them out and giving them away|1 Gtx 650 is here to join the call bursts into flames|1 Yes it is every 1015 minutes|1 Dont give up A cruise ship is possibly the worst place to be during this|0 If things were even close to back to normal they would encourage citizens to create as many videos and share it everywhere|1 Just need a Gun Virus Free Zone sign and the problem magically disappears|0 Wasnt he also in really bad shape from beginning If I didnt mistake cases then when he was mentioned for the first time I thought he would be first death in Europe He fought longer than I thought|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rhumansbeingbros Crosspost A helping hand in the time of needhttpswwwredditcomrHumansBeingBroscommentsfizj6ycrosspostahelpinghandinthetimeofneednbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 In Wuhan daily 2000 new cases became a routine scenario for about 3 weeks including the day 14000 was confirmed Not being pessimistic on purpose just wanna to remind everyone mentally prepare for the coming numbers in the next month|1 I also had a temporary asthma after recovering frombronchitis it lasted around a yearWeirdly the symptoms I experienced then sound exactly like a mild case of coronavirus but this was 10 years ago |1 Yeah and also the fibrosis of the lungs renal damage liver damage and the possibility to infect the nervous system Also the possibility to be reinfected with worse symptoms every time We should expect that even some mild cases suffer longterm health impacts just as they have from SARS|0 They refused to use the cheap and reliable WHO test kits in favor of 3000 dollar unreliable test kits and straight up refused to test people for it for a while as well Its not a question of logistics its just absolute incompetency|1 Yeah everyones quickly putting the pieces together A few people on here mentioned in a different thread a younger cousinworker mysteriously died from unknown pneumonia and has had it for weeks Lovely|1 Wouldnt it be good news if less sanitizer had to be produced|0 I am still the office crazy in Austin Texas|0 No way in the world theyll be able to maintain a six foot distance Runners are packed together like sardines sweating throwing back paper cups of water from a table they pass then tossing it on the ground contaminated with their saliva|1 The virus will expose the USA laissez faire capitalist model for all to see If that doesnt change the politics of the country then nothing will|0 Ive been saying this the whole time Americans are ridiculously unhealthy|0 No doubt he often makes himself look bad More so his comments taken out of context like what you quoted above by liberals in the media make him look bad One curse of party politics is it causes people to allow behavior in their camp they would never allow from the other I thought that my ultra conservative friends had set a new low in the way they talked about Obama that was before TDS|0 Some of my suppliers in Shenzen are saying they are open and they are eager for orders Im really scared to send any money because I dont think we are close to the end of this at all What also makes me really suspicious is that none of them have raised their prices|0 Idk who you know but my uncle who was a bum living on the streetdruggie went into the hospital feeling sick Turns out he had MRSA and lung cancer among other things They took care of him for free No bill Now it wasnt free because someone paid for it But you get the idea This was in Florida|1 We have enough problems in the middle of a pandemic without trying to make political pointsThank you This is what we need more of|0 I agree and we can bitch all we want but trust me Canada is doing a really good job so far We should have way more cases exponentially speaking So we are slowing it down However the Toronto Conference in Toronto is a problem Of course there are more but look at our approach and our case load and look at the USA or Iran or hell even the UK We are following the South Korean approach and they are already plateauing Uh I have not seen people having problems testing That is not true A close friend of mine works at a main hospital in a city near me and that is not the case This sub also has a bunch of fake claims and stories too Maybe you are conflating Canada with the USA|0 Agreed And that is in a population that skews elderly and in an environment that probably had a high viral load Versus flu which is more like 0103 IFR depending on the demographics of the country Italy is 03 the US is more like 01|1 I dont want to be that guy but an idea to get sick early doesnt seem to be that bad At least youll get your spot in a hospital and not die cause of HC not being able to contain the situation|0 Holy shit way to lead the charge Lowes Im impressed as hell|0 And that call cherrypicking my friend Google it |1 DFW has pretty much shut down all schools for the next 2 weeks we just had a week of spring break and now 2 more of it|1 I think this is the only responsible action Our supply chains are totally interconnected the flow of goods has to remain open People were mad about the border staying open but Id bet that this was already being negotiated at the time|0 Wow is this actually true Really interesting thing Ive learnt|1 Credit goes to Dick Will Pound|0 Holy fuck I thought once you recovered you were immune|0 this may be a dumb question but are you seeing a therapist if you are but your anxiety prevents you from going to see them try a phone or skype session with them if possible yes like another person commented write a gratitude list everyday I think I might start doing this again too also CBT worksheets as well as DBT can work great as wellhttpswwwgetselfhelpcoukfreedownloads4htmhttpswwwpsychologytoolscomdownloadscbtworksheetsandtherapyresourceshttpspositivepsychologycomcbtcognitivebehavioraltherapytechniquesworksheets|1 Scary Im giddy Fuck this man|0 Omg you are right there must have been an error Thanks for pointing it out I will fix it asap|1 These people need to be charged with voluntary manslaughter|0 I live right near that Asda and that toilet paper aisle has been empty for like a week|1 True While the virus is no joke people on this sub act like it is the black death Taking notice is one thing overreacting causes unnecessary drama that leads to panic|0 S Korea took seriously and they are now in 3rd in confirmed caseThe country took seriously from the start should be Vietnam we had 1616 recovered cases for nearly a month People coming from Europe and America to VN and made it 31 now|0 I thought the idea currently was to reduce the spread so the NHS can handle the cases and herd immunity can be built up I dont think entirely stopping the spread is practical or realistically possible|1 You hit the nail on the head What are we going to do Id rather a risk of life than a certainty of death|0 Im really screwed here in Florida|0 Is this what its like when your government actually gives a damn about you|0 Right there with you all of it Today was particularly bad and I took Benedryl and it cleared up very quickly|0 The thing is that people dont know if they are sick and they dont want to transmit the disease to their families or friends If everyone wore a mask just like in sk or Taiwan the infectivity would be greatly reduced|1 As far as I know its not unusual for healthy young adults to get pneumonia from 2019nCoV though I havent seen statistics for thatWhat is unusual is for that pneumonia to manage to kill that healthy young adult off|0 I wish there was something to be done about the duplicate posts Stuff gets posted and reposted numerous times in one day and then for days after|1 Crisis opportunity|0 Some of this is true Milk is sold out Milk isnt something that will last but something you need when everyone is at home eating|1 How about Spanish flu in Iran BBC Persian had an amazing article about it just two days ago|1 Jack is not a well drink tho|0 Not who you are replying to but there are certain students that we do weekly drop ins on during summer and Christmas holidays already doorstep visits where the child must be seen etc Summer is also a stressful situation for these people Im not saying schools shouldnt close as a teacher I think they should be closed now however the fact that there are summer holidays doesnt invalidate what the previous commenter said|1 Did you stockpile food and supplies before getting sick|0 If it had resolved quietly it would have possibly kept them in a better stance on the world stage However that isnt how it has gone and the world will be quick to condemn it Economically I suspect the amount of people around the world willing to buy direct from China will fall|0 Never underestimate the stupidity of the deeply religious|1 Why are men statistically more affected by this virus|0 Why the overreaction I stated it was a rumor Something I heard more than 15 years ago|0 Not only Italy its the same in Germany now Just impossible to do as many tests as would be necessary labs dont have infinite capacity So they have to prioritize the worst ones We fucking need a quick test|0 Most countries especially those not experienced with China listened to the WHO which is heavily influenced by China and recommended AGAINST establishing travel bans to Wuhan If the CCP hadnt covered the outbreak up and published accurate information other countries would have established sensible measures and SarsCoV2 would have been contained|1 check my previous posts I said it and ill say it again The virus bomb is about to go off|0 Per httpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051v3 theres evidence for a link between smoking history and susceptibility notable due to the prevalence of smoking in both China and South Korea yet to see anything regarding obesity but if theres any link I cant imagine its a positive one lol Guess well see|1 No I know this could happen to anyoneHe very well would be in there regardless I just noticed a potential factor that could make it worse and thought I should share Ive been following this since January I know Im not safe nor are my loved ones|0 If you need to use your knuckles to touch touchscreens That way youre not putting anything on your finger tips easy to wipe on surfaces and face also tries to teach you new habits Stuff going a tiny bit slower|1 Want a shitty cocaine rush Boof itIm not even memeing here Bupropion is a substituted cathinone same chemical class as many illicit stimulant drugs Eating it doesnt confer the effects due to extensive metabolism in the liver but something that skips the liver apparently works Of course shoving antidepressants up your butt isquestionable|0 I hope she knows the kind things you say about her Take care|1 Im so sorry for this young woman and her family|0 If you think its worked up until this point then oh boy youve got a shock coming|0 Well i mean they are failing the questionnaire1 Do you play a professional sport2 Are you rich3 Do you know where the exit is|1 Its not There is around 30004000 pneumonia cases per week in US just from the flu It would be easy to loose a hundred or two of corona cases in there|0 Thats not true at all Maybe volatile posts that get us no where but Ive seen plenty of neutral to leaning towards anger posts towards China and plenty of comments of the same originNot slamming China constantly CCP Shills trying to censor everythingHonestly I started on this sub but rCoronavirus is infinitely more enjoyable to browse at this point because most of the people posting on here just end up coming off as snooty and arrogant or like they came right outta the same user pool of rconspiracy|0 Do name the facility and tell truthful observations This has no legal liability Saying a nurse with COVID19 treated me would be false saying I believe a nurse who potentially had a communicable illness including the rapidly spreading novel coronavirus providing the basis of that belief the set of underlying facts or observations relied on is protected opinion The statements that a coughingsweating nurse described as having a cold virus by another nurse treated the patient without a mask and that the nurse coughed into his hand and did not washhowever damaging would have to be proved false by the facility andor persons involved for them to succeed in a legal actionIf the nurse was sick and symptomatic with virus of any kind he shouldnt be treating a cancer patient and particularly not without a mask and clean hands|1 Viruses go away after a certain percentage of people get infected Its based on how infectious the virus is called R0 Flu has an R0 around 125 which means for every person infected it will infect 125 more people For flu not to become wide spread 20 of the population needs to be immuned vaccine or previously infected COVID19 has an R0 or around 25 so the population needs to be 60 immuned to eventually get the virus to die out Disclaimer Im an average joe that reads things online|0 Yeah but where am I supposed to get an n95 mask|1 Yeah my plan to combat cabin fever was frequent family walks in a park Weve got to get out of this house at some point and if we cant even do that then I dont know how well were going to handle this isolation|0 thats just how some evil fucking people are man especially on the internet terriblei didnt like obamas policies or him as president but i would NEVER wish ill will or death on the guy wtf is wrong with people|0 Hopefully their old jobs will open back up|1 You are heard Your story is common I have many friends in identicalsituations This is what successful capitalism looks like We can do better Be healthy Be safe|1 From what I understand its a lot more affordable in Japan I heard you can get volumes for like 4 and even less if they are older and super popular series like FMA I saw a post about how they found a bunch of volumes for just 1 each Manga is only expensive because of the shipping translation the purchasing of rights to distribute and profit etc etc that keeps adding to the price|1 Agreed I started slowly stocking up in late January I have enough freezer food and rice beans oats shelf stable chocolate milk PB etc to make it through some shit My sister told me randomly her husband was buying food and thought it might be weird told her I was doing it too Ive always been the voice of reason and to buy ricebeanscalorie dense anything granola is a good one and a bottle of vitamins dayquil etcTold my parents that I can ship them anything via amazon any trips out to buy a widget at Target can be avoidedPeople just need to reduce their potential to catch or spread this any trip outside the house avoided helps Human interaction could drop A LOT if people just stick to a basic routine reduce vanity trips for a while gyms starbucks etc and not 100 but like 50 helps A TON|1 The flu is not remotely as infectious And it doesnt make 1520 of patients require a 10 day hospitalization This will have a 15 CFR when not if hospitals are overrun|0 Okay buddy fascist|0 Venezuela nationalized their oil companies and they performed so badly that they are now in talks to sell them to private companies in a revenue sharing split to up profitability x200BNationalized and privatized in the span of 20 years lmao|1 People dont want to think about incoming doom Look at our response to global warming|0 Man this is a perfect description Its captivating The situation is constantly evolving and it feels like one of the most significant historical events of my life I know the way Im following this sub is unhealthy but I want to be informed and uptodate as it unfoldsI go to work but its hard to focus The really surreal piece to me is how everyone else around me is either not thinking about it or when they do they are making jokes or posting memes about it Its almost like Im witnessing the attack on the WTC and others around me are just having a normal day at the office|1 3 mounts in a cage for this is insane Absolutely draconian and inhumane That is why freedom of speech is important|1 Maybe their pissed because youre going out in public WHILE YOU ARE GETTING SICK Respectfully what are you doing|0 I know danger pay isnt being handed out to anyone I just feel like I would be more willing to work if I could get a bonus for risking my familys health over their financial wellbeing I visit enough sites to have a valid safety concern and my bank is now flexible so I dont have much keeping me at work other than my work ethic and routine|1 Because he wanted the funds to be taken from war efforts instead of raising the debt ceiling Not that hard to understand but even the tiniest nuance goes out the window when youre a zealot and cant see the world through any other lens|0 That 20 figure for severe illness has always been combined Serioussevere critical and cases either tested dead or known to result in death WHO et al are interested in that total figure because it is a proxy for how dangerous the disease is Especially with long hospitalizations and fast growing spread just breaking out CFR deaths is not informative Anyone with severe viral illness can die and needs major medical intervention|0 Do we have any information yet on what was the primary transmission route on the Diamond Princess Was it fomites coughing contaminated buffet diarrhoea something else|1 Regarding private landlords If thats their only income then I dont have much sympathy|0 Really you should look at the rest of China that is a better comparison to make The virus is almost eliminated from there and life is returning to normal Stores are opening again Lots of temperature checks still the ones that CSO idiot thinks are uselessIt doesnt take much modification of daily life to suppress this virus to very low levels Unfortunately UK government dont want that They want to kill one million grandparents|0 It shouldnt be the school districts responsibility to provide food and care for children of working parents That should be something that employers of parents take into consideration|1 Are you all in the states Although the folks on the tube are playing it down the number of people becoming affected is growing Originally the people might have had were contained to the Air force bases Now there are 2 people in the major city that is 45 minutes away and another 2 people that are to the west of me The US did not quarantine those who had already returned from a vacation They just got the ones who were on the cruise ship and the people who begged to come home Seriously if they had relocated to China they should have just stayed there|1 Yeah for any of you at all interested or working in Emergency Medicine I 100 recommend JournalFeed|1 Its almost be hilarious if it werent so sad|1 As of 13hrs ago there was no published research or consensus in the medical community on this yet according to an excellent Canadian paediatrician that I know and follow She thinks the idea is stemming from people with kidneyrenal failure who should not be given ibuprofen for fever She said that the vast majority of people contracting COVID19 are healthy so at this time people could still use either drug including children if needed but watch the dose Tylenol is every 46hrs whereas ibuprofen is 68hrs She recognizes that this could change as more info comes out She urges people to stay home Dr Dina Kulik is the founder of Kid Crew in Toronto Shes no nonsense and promptly posts the latest and greatest in the changing landscape I recommend everyone follow her for up to date clear info Her stories are amazing whether you have kids or not|1 Brian Kemp is slap full of shit It kinda aint his fault Everything about the US response to this led by the US CDC has been happy gas bullshit that did not match what the facts were on the ground early on in Wuhan There is asymptomatic transmission several days worth matter of fact Which is very rarex200BAnother thing the US cdc has not pointed out that again is very very strange and was the factor that freaked the CHinese enough to say FUCK THAT and lock down a city of 22 million people for weeks was when the first few recovered in Wuhan started dropping dead of either what appeared to be a siezure midstep or falling ill and dying over a few hours from heart failure They found the virus in these people BUT IN A MUCH DIFFERENT StructureThat is yet another very rare feature of this virus No matter how mild initial infection is after recovery YOU STILL HAVE THE VIrus FOR several weeks and are not immune to reinfection which will be worse than the first roundChina just extended post recovery quarantine from 1428 daysI knew this before the virus left China If I was the one running the US CDC and Im just a carpenter I wouldve looked at the fact that this brand new virus had went from the first few cases into a city of 22 million people being locked down in a little over a month with two very rare factors not found in natural virus and I wouldve locked down all non essential international air travel for at least a few weeks until I got more information so it stayed contained in ChinaThe US CDCs response was to set up screening at airports with a FEVER GUN Talk about how they didnt trust CHinas numbers but dont worry we got this Sorry Italy Sorry AmericaSorry world|0 Today new cases increased dramatically|1 I saw Jeremy Hunt on TV last week explaining in depth that this was the planWe need to delay until as near the end of flu season as possible then contain in a way so we try to dripfeed infections into the NHS|0 Think of the United States as 50 Italys|1 Im guessing its unfortunately not number 3If I worked for the CDC and was on my way out anyway Id find a way to slip a press release in there saying that the virus hasnt spread here because it is destroyed by freedomPretty sure that wouldnt get me sent to gitmo like leaking the truth would and it would be hilarious|1 I am concerned that the healthcare system in the US whether you think its awesome or it sucks will simply be overrun It wont matter if we have great healthcare if we dont have access to it|1 7 I think the travel bans were handled well in the USYep but likely only because certain people already had hardons for travel bans for years already for very different reasons|1 This doesnt make your errors look better it actually makes them look worse|1 What narrative do you think OP is trying to push Its ridiculous to think a few bits of decent to good news regarding recovery vs the onslaught of foreboding articles is propaganda I apologize for my reply if you forgot the s|0 Yeah Id say when this is out the way we are looking at decent sized numbers 5 was my rough estimate Maybe slightly higher Ive seen as high as 8 But hard thing is how many people carry this we dont know Chinas Numbers were supposedly 3million infected 250 k dead|0 Yeah I was trying to be helpful and commented when someone asked the question that Id heard you can get reinfected but had no sources and said to take it with a grain of salt got downvoted to hell honestly this has always been the better sub lol|1 Its called ECMO and its as expensive as fuck to useNot sure the bill or the virus will kill people afterwards|0 It was downplayed for the war effortThats not a good thingbut its also not anything like covid19|0 This is whats worn with society the put more stock in actors and sports figures than Physicians|0 I hate this kind of logic that justifies torture People go and say how we need to thanks nazis or how they developed medicine It is all bullshit We could easily learn such basic stuff without becoming monsters|0 This is the most complete source of cases Ive been able to find Though as people leave the ship are flown back to their home countries getting all the data will be a challengehttpsbnonewscomindexphp202002thelatestcoronaviruscases|0 I work from home and I agree with what youre saying I love working from home I dont feel I miss any social aspect in person because Im on the phone talking to different people all day Everything I do is monitored My department was cut by 80 last year Working from home is def not for slackers|1 Yeah Ive heard people who live over their saying everyone just goes straight to hospital for most things That would explain why|1 san francisco 49ers is OK|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Tzeentch is loosing the war and Nurgle is winning|0 Holy shit|0 Ive started to imagine from stories like this one that we probably wont ever realize the full extent of this virus Its not hard to think that several months from now small towns all over the world might experience events that seem like particularly nasty bouts of the flu that are only confirmed as 2019nCoV after the fact Eventually it wont be easy to trace a symptomatic patient to any reasonable connection to the current hot spots and in the absence of such a connection I can imagine that tests arent performed to confirm the cause of the disease until its already way too late|0 Yep Came here to beg someone to put the clip to the Imperial MarchJust playing it in the background they even walk on beat Its too perfect|1 And apparently it can be spread simply by breathinghttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003studyhighlightseasespreadcovid19viruses This is terrifying|0 So firstly happy cake day Secondly food shouldnt be an issue because we grow lots of that and farms and slaughterhouses wont stop anytime soon But importsexports will certainly be impacted There may be shortages of some individual food items that we import Maybe avocados or french wine or who honestly knows That said you should stock up on these things just so you can avoid going to the grocery store|1 Completely false H1n1 had a vaccine in a year Companies have stopped using eggs and now plants as a his and sped up the process exponentially|0 Getting tested wont make you betterThey know what they are doing Dont jam the system unnecessarily STAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKThere is no known cure so youll need to just suffer through it You will get better Just stay away from other people so you dont contribute to the spread|0 What is the false positive rate of these tests I mean if the false positive is like 2 or something there is no use testing people unless you suspect they are infectedWe know the false negative rate is high|1 MMWR says Laboratory testing As part of laboratory surge capacity for the response CDC laboratories are testing for SARSCoV2 to assist with diagnosis of COVID19 During January 18February 23 CDC laboratories used realtime reverse transcriptionpolymerase chain reaction RTPCR to test 2620 specimens from 1007 persons for SARSCoV2 Some additional testing is performed at selected state and other public health laboratories with confirmatory testing at CDC CDC is developing a serologic test to assist with surveillance for SARSCoV2 circulation in the US population The test detects antibodies immunoglobulin IgG IgA and IgM indicating SARSCOV2 virus exposure or past infection In addition CDC laboratories are developing assays to detect SARSCoV2 viral RNA and antigens in tissue specimens Finally following CDCs establishment of SARSCoV2 in cell culture CDC shared virus isolates with the Biodefense and Emerging Infections Research Resources Repository to securely distribute isolates to US public health and academic institutions for additional research including vaccine developmenthttpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes69wrmm6908e1htmscidmm6908e1edeliveryNameUSCDC921DM20815|1 Lol be careful saying things like that as a non Brit Lots of people will see it as overstepping and talking about something you dont understand|1 People dont understand the problem with our healthcare has never been access or quality its cost and people without insurance having huge debt loads after suffering unexpected illness Besides no system can operate with a pandemic like this|0 Where does AB fit into this scenarioThanks|1 Really Interesting and good to know Thanks|1 As someone who helps run a small business I feel really bad for these people Their business may possibly go under for something they had zero part in Honestly I get why people are avoiding chineese restaurants but it still sucks for them|0 That moment when you think youre turning full out conspiracy theorist thinking testing isnt happening and there are actually hundreds or thousands of people possibly out there with this unknowingly and then a doctor on the front lines here in the US basically confirms it 100|0 put in prison without any toilet paper|0 US gives more foreign aid than the rest of the world combined There is a lot of good thing US does That does not mean we should ignore the bad things|0 It doesnt ignore them theyre part of the average|1 Shows how much youve actually been paying attention to this that you still think herd immunity is the plan Something the media completely picked up wrong and has sent Reddit into a frenzy And you have the cheek to call me a good little sheep|0 So true To be fair Singapore central govt stable and competent relatively more authoritarian smaller geography But at the end of the day a coordinated European response could have been engineered and am quite surprised at the UKs decision to distance itself from visible cooperation with its geographic neighbours|1 Every country is not limiting testing The CDC in the US fucked up by saying that they are the only ones allowed to do testing while in reality any lab could do it and the information to do so is freely available online Testing would be more abundant if they hadnt tied everyones hands so much early on|0 Same for my little rescue dog My vet told me dogs that never had access to fresh water learn to live in a dehydrated state I add water to her food to keep her hydratedMy big dog drinks a lot though|1 So this does kill young people Does it kill healthy young people or only people with health conditions like diabetes obesity and like me smokers|0 Eyes are exposed these masks arent big safety factor|0 whered you see that im in tulsa and the news is talking about suspected cases but nothing about a positive case interesting|0 oh okay cool so you just want people who dont have paid leave to stop working are you unsatisfied with the number of people who have been laid off businesses should stay open with a 6 feet apart rule strictly enforced and frequently sanitized surface and paid leave for those who do test positive for the virus|1 It would be funny if because of net neutrality being struck down there all the cable companies raise their prices because people stream a lot these next few monthsAnd by funny I mean hopefully encourages people to start a real revolution|1 If you had half a brain youd understand that selective pressures are not active or prescriptive but passive and descriptive The pressure doesnt come from some intelligent oversight It is the result of one set of characteristics being more or less favourable for reproduction|1 In Halle Traveled from here to Brussels and back via train the last 2 weeks Feel like Im just waiting for it to hit here Weve quarantined the ski team back from S Tirol|1 Toledo Ohio here and our schools shut down for three weeks Im thinking it will be longer Keep your kids home Better to be safe|1 You realize the title of this post yes It starts off with Im so angry You also understand the content of said post yesDo you really think given all these indicators that step away from the internet is a helpful piece of advice You suggest reading a book I mentioned picking up Shake Hands With The Devil and rereading it in this very thread Do you think I am void of hobbies I have many actually I have far too manyThis chain of commentary is one where I am taking out my anger on what I see as stupid and naive statements Dangerous statements Tbf statements antithetical to what I expressed in the original postYour step back and read a book line of kind and helpful advice is basically exactly what I stated I had a problem with in the original post I have expressed my experiences emotions and thoughts and many people have then began to share their own I think that is extremely beneficial for us all and very good to lower collective stress When we can see were not aloneWhere as you have done What Give me some fortune cookie level psychological advice that comes across as dismissive while feigning some sort of concernOne thing we can both agree on is that yes you should keep your thoughts to your self They help no one|0 Well Belgium is doing that from the very beginning France also report only hospitalized cases so we will have to do the maths ourselves|1 He will announce that it is negative|0 What a relief Guess this means I can get back to the skatepark|1 Dude fuck em I went to WalMart a couple days ago at about 4PM after HS kids were out People were taking pictures laughing Actually sucked bc they kept kind of crowding acting like they werent looking Id have been happy to pose but whatever|1 Thats only true if youre not looking at a much higher death rate For example if 10x the amount of people die it doesnt matter how many recover you aint getting those dead ones back|0 If china cant get it down with total lockdown its not going be good for a free moving society|1 oh he will get the best treatments Cuban medicine chinese medicine european medicine It wont be for you or me|1 you would rather everyone get along and hold handsId rather everyone take the necessary precautions and not be stupid enough to draw the lines along race as it is certain that this disease pretty much doesnt care what nationality you are If everyone in Kansas was getting sick would you be upset if people in Missouri stopped letting Kansans into MOAnd yet what the image is doing has nothing to do with stopping people who have been to China and everything to do with stopping people who are Chinese If this virus is truly as contagious as reported then it is pretty obvious that this is not a valid method of risk reductionYou look like youre from Kansas dont enter versus If youve been to Kansas dont enter are two very different approaches with wildly different outcomes in effectiveness|1 Missus surgery has closed their front desk and is turning away walk ins accepting calls only|1 Antiviral therapy should be carried out as early as possible to block its entry into the CNS Airway inhalation of antiviral agents will be the first choice at the early stage of infection which inhibit the replication SARSCoV2 in the respiratory tracts and lungs and prevent from its subsequent neuro invasion It is also urgent to find effective antiviral drugs that can cross the bloodbrain barrier Moreover corticosterioids which are used frequently for severe patients may have no treatment effect but rather accelerate the replication of the virus within the neurons|0 Good call Were in Chicago|1 How did you hear Aberdeen This is stressing me out|0 My aunt got tested in Alabama about a week ago It was negative|0 If youve been licking butts already I think you had plenty to be wary about already Im not saying dont do it if thats what youre into but youve gotta be careful with stuff like that Anal bacteria in the mouth is bad news not least for coronavirus risk I would just be prudent and take the normal precautions for now but maybe lay off that kind of stuff for a while until all the methods of transmission have been determined According to the CDC its primarily nasal and lung mucous droplets that are currently known to spread it most frequently The key word being currently People swallow their own mucus all the time and we cant really be sure whether it can survive gut and intestinal transit By we I mean people I dont work for the CDC or anything so take their advice over mine and stay safe outdown there Bear in mind that transmission is not guaranteed even from an infected symptomatic person but theres a good chance so dont even take the risk for now If you want to be intimate with each other just be sensible Keep kissing to a minimum lay off the butt stuff for a bit and sanitize sanitize sanitize httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovabouttransmissionhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovabouttransmissionhtml|1 There is no effective treatment|1 I think in that regard we are doing better than China I think 65 of men there smoke But something like 2 of women No idea on Italy I know in Korea it seemed like all the men smoked when I lived there|1 Im sure the vast majority of old people dont Some will rather die than risk their kids and grandchildren suffering a recession or depression|0 What age group are most at risk Is what Macron is doing in France a good ideashutting down public events such as concerts and marathon or does it do more harm|0 Coming after him Like how Fuck those assholes This could have been handled by the fucking commies but they did what commies do best lie cover up and point fingers|1 This is a pretty good primer on various vaccine typeshttpswwwvaccinesgovbasicstypes|1 Can you please let us know the source of your data Without it the post should be removed but I am loathe to do so when there is a significant number of comments Please add a link to a reliable source of data|1 Wow this thread got seriously brigaded by the red hat soyboys eager to defend their orange dick daddy for literally anything|1 Just look at the numbers for other things that China put out Flu mortality rates are a good example China claims only 150 and something flu related deaths in all of China for 2018 The States for that same year with both much lower population better healthcare and education was at 60k flu related deaths Take any CCP numbers with a giant grain of salt and assume at least 510x higher I get that sounds terrifying but in developed countries it would not be that bad Doctors in China need to risk getting murdered by their government are under staffed and lacking basic supplies All that plus the high levels of pollution and large population of smokers is a recipe for a bad time We dont have actual numbers until this gets more widespread internationally|0 I havent seen it yet so Ill do the obligatory postWhat he donated is only like 000000001 of his total wealth Thats like 50 bucks if I made 100000 a year Never mind that making 100000 a year isnt the same has having 100000 in the checking account by any stretch just like having 100 billion dollars doesnt mean he has that in his checking account|1 Theres a difference between stockpiling and being greedy and stockpiling to be safe|1 1346 1346 billion would still be left so this is a lot more serious then is being let on plus it doesnt help that the rulers are ALL in the zone for dying at their age weight and health they need young blood in power|0 Amazing breakdown Thank you for the great work|1 From the USAThe only turning point is seeing the USACDC absolutely failing their citizens testing cases and giving us more transparency into WTF is going on MERICA 1 s |0 Not sure if unuclearselly works in the aviation industry but I was interested on their comments regarding parked aircraft so went searching I found this doc from boeing on returning aircraft to service after extended downtimehttpswwwboeingcomcommercialaeromagazineaero04textonlys02txthtmlhttpswwwboeingcomcommercialaeromagazineaero04textonlys02txthtmlHeres is one section of the docx200BAirplane Returning From Parking An airplane may be parked for more than a day because of business or operational factors such as overcapacity company restructuring market conditions or regulatory action Deterioration of airplane structure surface finish airplane systems and components can occur if preservation procedures to protect the airplane are not followed If exposed to the outside environment figure 3 an airplane can be damaged by heat humidity cold ice snow rain lightning hail wind sandstorms and insects The airplane must also be protected from damage or debris contamination of pitot probes static ports total air temperature probes and angleofattack sensors External openings on the airplane such as the outflow valve relief valves vents ports and openings must be closed and sealed against environmental effects Because of airplane system inactivity and the lack of regular maintenance checks during parking the following may also occur component mechanisms may lose lubrication batteries may discharge contamination of potable water systems or fuel tanks may occur and some systems or components such as oxygen cylinders tires hydraulic systems and landing gear shock struts may lose pressure Although the airplane is inactive during parking it is important to maintain the engine auxiliary power unit and cargo fire extinguishing systems and all portable fire extinguishers in fully serviceable condition in case of a fire The airplane must be electrostatically grounded while it is parked Operator experience shows that dispatch reliability is higher and maintenance problems are fewer for airplanes in regular service as compared to airplanes used sporadically eg infrequent charter flights or parked airplanes When the airplane is in service flight crews are monitoring airplane system performance from the flight deck maintenance personnel are performing preventative maintenance regular inspection and repair procedures and the onboard computing systems and electronics units are performing internal diagnostics to monitor system health The regular use of an airplane maintains its systems and components in a condition conducive to airworthiness Parking creates the risk that an airplane may not be properly protected or that system functionality may not be properly restored The increased integration and complexity of both hardware and software in airplane systems means greater care and attention must be paid to protecting and restoring the airplane after parking The procedures established to preserve an airplane during parking and later restore it to inservice condition are extensive and lengthy but necessary to ensure airworthiness Specific procedures exist for servicing and protecting an airplane parked for different periods of time The airplane manufacturers recommended maintenance practices for parking can be found in chapter 10 of the Aircraft Maintenance Manual AMM Recommended Resources includes further information about preparing airplanes for return to service The sidebarMaintenanceRelated Accidents Involving Air Data Instrumentation offers a detailed examination of two accidents that occurred when airplanes were returned to service after maintenance downtime and prolonged parking respectively In both cases maintenance of the air data instrumentation on the airplanes played central roles in the accidentshttpswwwboeingcomcommercialaeromagazineaero04textonlys02txthtmlhttpswwwboeingcomcommercialaeromagazineaero04textonlys02txthtmlx200BEDIT Also this article relating to the 737 Max jets being in long term parked state httpswwwforbescomsitesjeremybogaisky20190812boeing737maxdesertstoragehttpswwwforbescomsitesjeremybogaisky20190812boeing737maxdesertstorage36898f9b1e61|1 In this administration its impossible for us We cant get enough tests for people who need it Government hid it and downplayed it for months saying flu kills more people We had a 2 month head start and knew what other countries were dealing with and instead we chose to bury our heads in the sand going Lala no corona if I close my eyes Meanwhile South Korea was on it got enough tests quarantined people and did contact tracing to the extreme They chose to be transparent and took the right steps South Korea is an outlier in thisIts not impossible because yes they did it but its too late for us|0 Definitely dude just wanted to point out we should stay unified |1 Yeah any interaction with the passengers is a risk on infection At least the protocol was for the passengers to wear a mask before opening the door I hope they also had the reflex to clean whatever theyve got and wash their hands after touching paperwork etc|1 Just out from under quarantine Apparently the way we are doing things here in Michigan is that if you are flu and strep negative and not having severe symptoms that require critical care they send you home to chill for a couple days before they rerun flu and strep tests and then decide whether or not to do further testing So long story short we had the 2 day quarantine in between rounds of testing on my 6 year old We were instructed to by the state epidemiologist urgent care staff and county health department We simply did no one in and him not out I masked and gloved while home with him unless I was in my bedroom which is a strictly kid free zone and I didnt enter or exit without wiping doorknob and scrubbing hands and exposed skin He tested positive for Flu at his 24 hour retest and is recovering well Not a big deal really except that you should have seen the faces of the school staff when I told them he wouldnt be in because he was under quarantine|1 do you know why the world is unprepared coz China paid WHO to make sure the world is unprepared|1 This narrative that the Chinese bought the world two months is very effective propaganda They downplayed the severity of the disease intentionally and its been circulating since January or February in countries outside of China Its now believed China also criticized travel restrictions placed on them Im not sure they bought us two months I think they convinced the world through fake data that they had it more under control than they did and that it wasnt worth worrying about|0 Yes Im due end of Maybeginning of June with my second They say it might get worse in 2 or so months time Im so scared about it Im going to ask my midwife on my next appointment on the 25th what the contingency plan is but Im not sure they even know yet Im hoping we get our act together slow the spread or get very prepared by then|1 My husband was told to work from home after todayAlso in 3 weeks he was due to travel by plane along with about 30 others to go to a series of large training sessions for new software implementation at a different office They just cancelled the flights and told everyone to attend by Skype Im so relieved I cant imagine the corporate liability from ordering 100 employees into large group settings in closed conference roomsTheres going to be a whole string of class action lawsuits when this is over if companies keep putting the bottom line before employees health and safety|1 But somehow the flu doesnt overload any countrys healthcare system Try to tell Italians what they are fighting with is not at the level of seasonal flu I wonder how theyll feel about it|0 It good to let people know about it but it just pretty crazy to see how many racist now suddently feels justified to come out of shadow to spread hateful wordsA good portion of the commentors did not even read As our expert Peter Li points out in the video The majority of the people in China do not eat wildlife animals Those people who consume these wildlife animals are the rich and the powerful a small minority in the commentNot to mention the selfannointed honorary white HKer and Taiwanese Wet markets exist there and unsurprisingly blind eyes were turned Jesus|1 100 I feel ashamed for how long I had to look at that image for my eyes to tell my brain that he wasnt some type of satyr|0 Excellent|1 Are you serious|0 I remember reading that a temperature of 56c over a period of 30 minutes kills the virus 56c isnt that hot why cant the masks just be heated and then reused Id imagine that during shipping they could easily reach 50c or above in the back of a truck or at the top shelf of a warehouse during the summer so it seems like the masks would hold up just fine This could even be done at home inside of a pressure cooker oven or crock pot|1 I dont even know if Im serious|0 Oh there are many many more questions than thatIm never been more disgusted with my government and opposition officials at all levels|1 So Im an American in Amsterdam and my flight home leaves 1230pm on Friday uhhh am I ok to go home or what|1 Three cheers for socialism|1 I guess this is in conjunction with the manufacture of more ventilators so that those requisitioned facilities can deal with those critical under coronavirus|0 The PPE factories have been running actually Theyre running well beyond their initial capacity Its just that China has been using all of it|1 Yes I believe thats when I will truly panic is when my weed supply is down Eek|1 Could be the first time in 3536 years that Wrestlemania isnt held WWE themselves will hold the event regardless though Something crazy would have to happen for them not to|0 Avoiding crowds or groups of people is crucial I think its difficult to spread walking around and not being close to people Im in a suburb and I have a dog Im walking her but not going anywhere people congregate or seeing anyone No mask imo save them for front line or sick who need them|0 Id be really interested to know how many people actually get tested Do some countries have low counts because they are not testing as diligently as others|1 What is that suspicion based on My first thought was a facelift Most bad plastic surgery pics you see are just people who went out in public too soon Takes about a month for the swelling to go down|0 We are trying to blunt the impact to give us time one we need time to treat the sickest of patients so our health care system doesnt get overburdened High probability this thing far outpaces our ability to keep up Look at Italy they are at the brink of total ruin where they are having to let hundreds die and focus on the more healthy sick people The second thing we are trying to buy time for is to establish a treatment and a vaccine This stuff takes time but vaccines are being researched and created for this thing like nothing else before not even close but we are still looking at another year and half until theres something on the market We dont have a treatment for this disease either although there is a drug remdesivir showing slight promise but its not well tested and has very limited application Schools malls restaurants any mass gathering place should be shut down not for 3 weeks but at the bare minimum until June We need to be drastically ramping up testing tens of thousands of tests a day to see if what we are doing is working We are flying blind at the moment|0 I wasnt a trump fan before but I dont think any one person can handle this situation Theres nothing that one individual can do right now that can take care of a pandemicI think the things he has done was good though And if we lose democracy we risk losing our freedom to tyranny by handing each of our freedoms over|1 Pathogens sure but in a more general sense our entire global economy is built on the assumption that things will happen at certain times in certain ways at certain rates This is likely to be a mini demonstration of what happens when the health system gets overloaded Climate change is difficult because it will basically turn up the pressure on everything at the same time and so far weve done little to react|1 As a foreigner I have to ask how such thing can happen in a first world country like USIn Vietnam we already pull the army into the fight against virus and theyre practicing to deal with several scenario even including when there are infected ones in the army Today 83 the government even plans to make ALL the citizens fill the medical declaration and most if not all are happy to do it for better controls of this situation And we only have 21 confirmed case not include hundreds of people who have been quarantined for safety reasonsI just genuinely dont understand|0 Then in this case the whole world already knew about the virus and quarantine this guy only wanted to expose a dead body for attention likes etc|0 Hey Bill I know you wont read this question much less answer it but if you really cared about the state of the world why are you not starting Super Pacs like the Republicans are doing and fund progressive democrats across the board nationalstatelocal in the US The republicans flipped the table in 2010 by spending about 35 million on local elections That led to the state were in right now Doing that would have a far greater impact on inequality poverty climate change corruption in politics etc If you truly cared youd be putting your billions into reforming the broken political system in the most powerfulinfluential country on Earth|1 Okay Ive literally been asking about this I only have 3 masks but they are packaged and Id like to donate How did you donate them|1 If that wasnt a form of coronavirus it would be a crazy coincidence|0 How many cases Yes|1 What do you think is going to happen when this hits developing countries Its going to be bad|0 This has to be a joke right They waffled for weeks before finally deciding to use the word pandemic I understand the motivation is to not cause a panic ahead of time unnecessarily but who are they to complain not enough is being done if they werent willing to call it what it is back when countries couldve taken preventative action Governments are not going to take economywrecking actions until theyre advised by these people that this is clearly a pandemic level emergency Instead the WHO went with lets wait and see Well so did everyone else Weve all known this was coming Lets not throw stones here|1 Canada is doing everything they can to not look racist and keep this virus spreading|1 Im so glad my mother is taking this seriously She has COPD her lung capacity is 23 This virus would most likely kill her Were in KY shes pulled my siblings out of public school and started home schooling Shes also stocked up on supplies by doing grocery pickup Nobody else around me is taking this seriously My sister just told me that the past two nights at work shes a RN in PCU that they had to use the same mask all night They had the staff put their names on their mask Shes also starting to realize how serious this is Im so concerned for them|0 Are you seeing the simulations with the balls The graphs are created by those simulations they are smaller and above the balls The graphs represent the data created by th balls|1 Exactly this but in Europe after asking today at the office why arent we working from home when each member of the team has that possibility I was told that we are working as a team and our job requires communication between team members Like really|1 WHOs counting No theyre not lol|0 Stop this Adults are talking about reality and exchanging actionable information Nobody said it wasnt to be taken seriously because it differentially affects elderly nobody said their lives mattered less If you cant stay on topic due to your emotional reactivity you need to stop interfering in conversations with this absolutely idiotic moralizing|0 Go back to posting this shit in mens rights and keep it off of a sub about a virus|0 Well yes thats exactly how all governments or any organization work once you reach a certain size The morality of it the righteousness the principles and all the rest have very little influence on getting approval for Form 32Btvii that you need to move 300000 widgets RWIMU19773e to the Department of Half Asleep Morons so theyll finally get moving on the deployment of Initiative Political Credit instead of pointing fingers at you even though you already explained five times that its not actually your fault its Bob from Appropriations that was out sick and Bobs replacement doesnt have the clearance to sign off because he forgot to complete the mandatory compliance training because his boss told him he didnt need to but that was before he was transferred to replace Bob Maybe those 300000 widgets labelled RWIMU19773e are packed lunches for starving children Maybe theyre laserguided bombs for those same starving children You have no idea and frankly you dont care nobody cares because they have things like families and careers to worry about instead of digging through obscure and outdated crossreference catalogs to find out whether youre saving children or slaughtering them This these people these people that are just like you or are you at this very moment as you waste time on Reddit instead of approving Form 32Btviiare what drives any and every corporation or institution or government in the world|0 So what Youre blatantly lying and you dont bother reading your own sources I dont need to be nice to a deceptive pile of shit like you|0 A more digestible twitter thread on this httpsmobiletwittercomjeremycyoungstatus1239975682643357696BoJo needs to stop pussy footing around and enforce a lock down now|0 Dont act like this is something out of the ordinary theyve been challenging that definition for some timehttpwwwvirologyws20090523whowillredefinepandemic|0 I feel you man I had a lady tell me to kill myself because my warehouse didnt send any strawberries I dont have a choice but to show up but since I am already there I do my best to make sure people get what they wantneed Stay strong and keep fighting the good fight We make a difference no matter the reason for being there man so might as well be positive as much as possible Love you and and thank you for what you do especially in a thankless environment|1 It seems more like part of a plan to spread that crap all over the world just like the military did for the 1918 Spanish Flu that really came out of inoculated troops in Kansas|1 America could be a better friend to Taiwan One of the silver linings of the Trump presidency really|1 Koreans werent lucky they proactively did something about it|0 Our government is very left leaning describes itself as the first feminist government in the world and is neoliberal and globalistic Open borders without checking who comes in or how many migrants come in and all that jazz You dont know what you are talking about The conservatives here have time and time again saying to close borders and schools and all that jazz that SENSIBLE countries are doing You seem to have no clue what you are talking about|0 Just like the Dutch Its bizarre how these countries are treating this outbreak|1 Sorry we let you down every time|0 I think the March 8 womens day rallies and protests spread it around a lot You had millions of workers striking and being close together So you may have less older people infected as of yet that could be coming|0 Ty|1 My family and 20 of our closest friends are all planning on traveling to a remote island in Belize together next week With coronavirus is it a bad idea|0 They literally threw three people in jail in December for discussing it on Weibo They can see and censor anything and everything behind their firewall Just because they allowed some people to mention the virus weeks later does not mean this wasnt extreme censorship|0 Hope Italy getting better soon|1 No extra info provided because of privacy issuesWell I hope that if he got it theyll at least tell you lol|1 Ok my point of personal responsibility still stands How have I made it to age 32 without getting AIDS Not doing injection drugs and being monogamous Its not complicated|1 I mean I agree But whats worse being six weeks late or 12 The last 6 weeks in a 12 week period will be 90 of cases just an estimate orMore based on exponential growthWeek 1 2 peopleWeek 2 4W 38W4 16W5 32W664W7128W8256W9512W101024W112028W124056Even in this example the last week is equal to the first 10 weeks combined|0 Since the start of this Ive had little doubt that Quebec would handle the situation best Theyre not afraid to make controversial decisions Every decision related to COVID19 in the Western context will be controversial|1 The have to classify information about a virus Either its really bad news or something is up|0 My partner has expressed similar concerns mostly because its upsetting me and upsetting them which is fair Taking precautionary measures is a reasonable reaction but like at a certain point what is your personal costbenefit from reading 30 minutes of news a day vs 3 hoursIf your fiance is getting upset or is sensing that youre getting obsessive maybe listen to them a bit Dont stick your head in the sand but dont let this dominate every aspect of your life and relationships This isnt likely to be over in a few days or weeks respect your mental health and dont overload|1 But making things harder to do scares away most peopleAnyone can steal a bicycle doesnt matter if its locked or not but you chances of getting your bike stolen are higher when you dont have a lockThere will always be some way or another to do something but making it harder is a huge step in the right direction|0 Bullshit Then there would be a linear association per population but the US is nowhere close|0 So many Chinese people live in the UK I can confirm most Ive met are totally niceI just know these racists are sad inside but cant face it so project it onto othersUnfair judgement always says more about whats inside the individual doing the judging than the group being judged|0 And yet the majority of people Ive seen are still in denial about this being anything else than the damn fluI was attacked a few weeks ago for suggesting that the US should restrict incoming international flights and people shouldnt be traveling Theres still idiots going on cruises Its too easy for people to be spoonfed whatever the govt is offering and just considering it someone elses problemAnd Australia is getting ready to head into their main cold and flu season They managed to keep it somewhat under control this summer but this is really bad Poor guy Sounds like he has mild symptoms which is good for him but so many were exposed|0 For people asking what we were expecting well something would have been nice after they refused WHO tests in favor of the private sector and claimed its severity was all a hoaxNow we get an infomercial for the private industries tests they stalled WHO tests in favor of a lot of the same shit they already said and should have been saying two weeks ago and a flowchart that brilliantly separates whether we should test people with symptoms or notSpecific pertinent questions from the press and every response is filled with colorful adjectives sweeping claims and 0 actual details I dont take responsibility at all Trump in this address on the corona outbreak So what were we expecting More|1 2019 felt like kindergarten compared to 2020|1 Interestingly South Korea and Taiwan two functioning democracies somehow still managed to stop the spread This is not a question of government form this is very definitely a question of government competence|1 help|1 Good case of crime against humanity The Hague needs to look into charges|0 Well at least she avoided Montezumas revenge|0 Its been about 5 years since my last one The first 3 days are the hardest The temptation the first year is the worst You know that head rushhigh from the first pull youre still chasing Your tolerance will return before you buy the second pack That stress relief The stress is from withdrawls Food tasting better breathing being easier blood pressure staying down and not smelling like shit 247 arent worth giving up for 3 head rushes an expensive liability and another period of withdrawals to quit You can do it|0 Why a doctor should publish it with his name if he may be fired from the hospital for talking too much Do you think it is not risky|0 Thank you|1 Time to buy puts for when they start killing people|0 Yeah have HBO do it again with the same director|1 I dont think just a random tourist who didnt know he was infected before his journey to France|0 It looks most like a domestic lab accident to me too Im just really wondering what kind of rumors are floating around in China and how much stock people put into them Ive seen people on Chinese social media accuse the US of creating this epidemic etc and have heard people I know personally say they would rather die than accept help from Americans Sometimes what people think is the truth can be more significant than the actual truth|1 Wheres that guy from yesterday that said cases would die off after 11k|0 Wow What a cultural shock A friend briefed me on the run back to Cedars that all I needed to do was to get to the Beverly Hills City limit as the police did a great job Are you and your husband still in LA |1 Perfect example Ticketmaster is horrible but its also what happens when the sell price doesnt accurately reflect demand Artists should probably do something like a dutch auction directly to their fans if they dont want a middleman to come in and create insane markups and pocket the difference|1 Its hard to disagree with what youre saying but I am curious as to where people would draw the line Surely the mere presence of disease is not enough as this risk is always present Surely the mere benefit for the majority of the population is not enough or individual rights dont exist at allSome people would agree to live in a police state if things got bad enough Some people want us to live in a police state right now|1 No subtitles needed|0 When 20 of the population is critically ill cost will not be a factor|0 The live event industry in Austin is decimated for at least six months possibly the yearThe marketing of this party is poorly done I hope those who attend have enough forward thought to realize were witnessing history and will think twice before being wasteful|1 Jesus help|1 Lol i literally wrote the average chinese doesnt eat exotic meat Reading comprehension|1 If needed a couple of 5 gallon buckets or horse tubs you can rinse in the shower Ivory soap or woolite will be easier on your hands The smallest amount of bleach recommended on the label You can soak then hand agitate It actually works just fine Takes lots of time but we are going to have that If you have a window that opens figure out a way to hang clothes to dry on a line if possible direct sun is highly disinfectant Or perhaps you have roof access and everyone can hang laundry there You can dry inside if no other choice but it will be slow and messy It is going to be alright just difficult for a while youll figure it out but make it easy by thinking it through now Google hand washing laundry for some instructions and hints|1 The lockdown in Wuhan was also much more strict with more preventative measures like masks The decline will be more gradual in Italy|1 Ive been sat in my apartment for 6 weeks now Any and all funds are kindly welcomed|1 Asinine to say this when its obvious the numbers are still premature we are weeks away from Italy if we dont take shit seriously|1 In the early stages of the SARS epidemic health officials estimated the mortality rate at less than 4 More recently officials have cited rates in the 6 to 7 range Todays SARS figures from the WHO6903 cumulative cases and 495 deathspoint to a casefatality ratio of 72 But WHO officials note that this calculation underestimates the rate since some currently ill patients will die of the disease|0 Always good to shut down fake facts|0 Absolutely right We should be concerned and take precautions but the number of people screaming that the sky is falling is insane Have compassion for others that arent as fortunate to have a well established medical complex and hope as few people as possible are infected but dont upend your life with preppermadness because you are still far more likely to die in a car accident than to even contract COVID19|0 What a dumb statement With all the great imo work being done to curb this virus idiocy like this keeps popping up|1 Toothpaste qtips tissues batteries shower supplies nice if you have room in the freezer to stock up on protein I also have a bunch of protein powder I can mix with water or even almond milk shelf stable so a few boxes of that here Just think of things it would suck to be without for a few months|1 Stressful time to be a contact tracer|0 There were some gas stations that did this in Florida during the hurricane a few years ago They charged massive fines against the owners|0 Boris Response Yes but we are following the science which says theres no reason to test weve got to TIME it right now if you look at this curve|0 Thank God now if only our government had the same ability|1 With last gasping breath I didnt know people died from the flu|1 Ah okay thanks|1 CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THIS|0 After thinking about it for a while I agree That will also prevent more fanatics from assuming they will zero consequences for trying to make people sick die I am only surprised they didnt try to peddle a scam cure afterwards to fund their religion|0 And the people that tested these cases actually broke protocal and actually tested those people Thats how fucked we are|0 Ah Well that sucks|0 Prep Prep Prep PrepIts better to be safe than sorry|1 Or pull a formula 1 and cancel an hour before two hours after it starts|0 Mine is set for mid July and Im very glad we were planning to put deposits down on major needs mid march to late April because now I have no idea if this will be over by mid July|1 incredibly unaware of themselves people|0 Packs a warehouse full of dying boomers to cough in your packages that are delayed because supply chainEdit spelling|0 This is the reason why we need to know the details of people who are infected without identifying them of course The BC government only told us that someone somewhere in the Pacific Northwest caught the virus But dont panic and dont be racist|1 Instead of approving each person individually why not make an Automod rule to filter out all posts and have mods approve them on a case by case basis With how many people I see asking why they cant post I guarantee there are tons more who ask and arent approved by you guys Ive seen a few who actually thought that just by subscribing theyd EVENTUALLY be given access to postThis fixes 2 issues1 People coming here for support seeing they are unable to post and slipping deeper into depression When they are ABLE to post immediately even if automod says then tells them that the post is pending approval it gives them the satisfaction that its off their chest and will soon be seen When they join and see Unable to post these people dont know WHY they are unable to post especially if someone is really worked up and emotional2 Trolls will be able to submit all they want and have no idea theyre not being approved With the current system if I want to troll all I need to do is ask to be an approved submitter and when I am I can post whatever You guys can remove my posting privilege then I do it with a new account With automod flagging all posts you can just leave them unapproved and the troll will be unaware that theyre not getting to anyoneAn alternative and equally easy method is having all posts show and only have automod remove it if the post hits a certain threshold of downvotes or reports so that less mod intervention is needed Both of these ideas are very easy rules to setup if you need help I can point you in the right direction|1 You are talking about something that has never happened before even assuming no hiccups there is no way a vaccine is made possible in that time Let alone china are the only ones using covid patients for testing we havent even started phase 1 clinical trials for any vaccine in the US or EU and even if a vaccine did miraculously work in the next year there would be no economic strategy for getting the vaccine to the people who need it|0 Every state in the us was waiting on someone to move first Once Washington state saw where Italy was headed it started lockdowns And suddenly other states with lower levels of infections started Inslee needs to start implementing a mass lockdown next week or wa state will become Italy|0 Fantastic points You brought up a couple of factors that I hadnt even considered|1 Yeah but we need to cancel large gatherings and schools too Lets be proactive instead of reactive If we dont take proactive steps now doctors and nurses may be too overwhelmed to help in other medical emergencies in the future I cannot stress this enough Extra hospital beds may save lives|1 teach me man seriously what the fuck is a log scale|0 maybe a more virulent strain as well|0 Theyve spoken to the press and shared their last names with the public|1 The government messed up we obviously should have waited until 1000 at leasts|0 Im getting some Detroit Become Human vibes from this guy for sure|1 Im fortunate enough to work at a job where I can get up to 105 hours a day and work 7 days a week if I want itIm exhausted but plowing away at it Im terrified for my friends who are locked into 40 hours a week dealing with customer servicefood service jobs Barring some form of government intervention a lot of people are going to end up on the street|0 Didnt they try and justify the use of the word as only being relevant if everyone caught it Or was I mistaken|0 The thing that pisses me off is that now it may give the illusion that the delay phase or the do absolutely fuck all phase is actually working|0 Can someone explain how a baddeclining economy due to the coronavirus could affect individuals Like with savings and investments|1 It stays their fault no matter what|0 Much of the people in this sub are insane irrational and afraid to even reason with logic|0 Like London in the UKDensely populated highly diverse metropolis|1 Shocking stuff really|0 I have guinea pigs who need veggies daily D Im thinking about growing my own tbh|1 I just bought my luxury items Amazon delivered Berkey water filter bundle and a medair air purifier I couldnt believe they were still in stock No idea what the next step is I tried to inform neighbors and family and they all are looking at me like Im nutty I have like 6 months of toilet paper So I do t give a shit No but waiting 2 weeks or so for people near me to catch on is going to be brutal|0 And whose fault is that|0 these science advisors need to resign or be sackedWell see how it goes but Im thinking charged with manslaughter might end up more appropriate|0 Hope he die soon Kinda like HIV Good riddance|1 Twitter is generally an unreliable source If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text Thank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Some viruses just be like that Ive heard hepatitis a is the same way kids catch and carry it but their parents and teachers are the ones who get sickOn the one hand this is reassuring to all of us with young children On the other its scary in its own right that kids can infect a lot of other people without anyone realizing they have it since only people with symptoms are really getting tested I stopped taking my toddler to the store with me two weeks ago even though he loves it Little bugger kept licking the cart handles|1 I think youre confusing selfish with common sense pal If you can do your job from home and get yourself isolated better then thats not just good for yourself its good for everyone Yes theres people that cant theres also people that dont have access to running water should I just not use any of the taps in my house cos Id be such a selfish cunt if I did so cos not everyone is able to Make the best arrangement with what you got you never know maybe if you dont attack the people who are lucky to be in a better position they might offer to help out where they can|1 I just dont get it Ten days ago I was thinking what a terrible early response there was but now I dont even know what to think They still havent dropped the Travel History requirement event if community spread in the US has reached the point that other countries will test you if youre coming from the US|0 Well get the workers infected get no service Thats how it is They dont need this covidSeeing how the grocery shelves are yes|0 Well done America youre totally handling this better than ChinaReddit is so smart|1 Not sure how local media would have those numbers|0 These are very difficult times my friend Be smart and safe and we will get through this|1 Free health care dream come true|1 Im okay with being a cyborg|1 Though their war is not over yet South Koreans showed us how to fight against the novel coronavirusTest and trace are the key|0 I saw that too He has to be lieing there is no way hehasnt heard of Chen|0 Yep they say the same in France|1 No kidding Theres no shortage in the warehouses they just cant ship it fast enough to handle horders Just get enough for a week theyll be more|0 I am also amazed there are still people who think smoking cigarettes is healthier than smoking weed|1 When youre talking about faulty test kits are you talking about the inherent issue of a threshold necessary to get a reading which poor QA in collection or testing may produce as well as just having a subclinical viral load of SARSCoV2 or the issue with one of the control components providing an indeterminate result in some not all CDCdistributed test kitsThe first instance is predictable in an overburdened health systemAs for the direct claim about cardiac injury and reinfection cardiac injury has only been mentioned once with COVID19Organ dysfunction eg shock acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDS acute cardiac injury and acute kidney injury and death can occur in severe casesClinical Characteristics of 138 Hospitalized Patients With 2019 Novel CoronavirusInfected Pneumonia in Wuhan Chinahttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2761044One of the hallmarks of false information and conspiracies is to make a claim thats tangentially connected to something with a basis in reality where an uninformed person may not be able to understand how the relation between the false information and true information is flawed|0 im so confused about the plan to let the virus spreadNothing to add|0 I understand what you are sayingHowever this cannot really be trueHospitals are only now filling upThis flu would have been noticed before Also we do know it started in December January in ChinaI do think it is possible the first cases may have been around a few weeks ago however but not in huge numbers Maybe since late January at the earliest Also I believe it is possible there are currently many more mild cases than the government seems to thinkBut these are also opinions and not facts|0 true|1 The cost of lies|0 Thanks didnt know that I figured they would be pressured at some point|1 Also Jim Cramer Lenny Dykstra is one of the all time great money managers|1 So it is seems that climate change was never about climate it was about human population controlNow we can have an a rational and honest conversation about the future of our species|1 Closing schools wont make that much difference its only being done to make people feel better Children arent going to selfisolate indefinitely for weeks If we really want to stop the spread we would need to undergo full lockdown|1 They knew it but if they got on TV and said they believe its already in every state where a flight landed that had origins from China mass panic instantly Look at the panic rolling now with slow news coming|0 I just got the dreaded call from my boss to stay home till further notice wo pay Anyone having this same issue Any info on the stimulus package that is supposed to help us pay our bills Any info is much appreciated|1 Right but telling people to stay home when theyre sick still seems valid to delay infections and flatten the peak|0 Mutation doesnt necessarily mean the virus will get worse It means it will change|0 Americans are all about being unique even at the expense ofwellanythingThere is no shortage of incredibly dull people in the west that are basically copy and pasted versions of each other with slightly different hairThe idea that most Japanese people are similar to each other is really stupid and it just sounds like its coming from people that have not spend any time getting to know any and rather instead look at them like subjects in a zooYoull find plenty of women in Japan who seem to like little more than Disney going to cafes and taking photos of food but youll also find plenty that are actually interesting and have varied interests Like anywhere else|1 Thats great to know Is there an estimate on when we might see them being utilized|1 A youthful immune system is like a fresh highperforming vice president nimble and able to react quickly to evolving situations Meanwhile an older immune system is like the tired boomer retiring at the end of the year he does his job well enough but hes not the same gogetter that he used to be and if things start going haywire hes more likely to drop the ball and let things slip through the cracks|1 Thank you Colbert has never done an expert panel on anything Hes fun to watch and can be insightful at times He doesnt do a deep dive Thats John Olivers gigIts literally called a talk show Because they talk about the things that people are talking about|1 My sisters studying in London atm and shes of the same mindset that its no different than the flu|0 Why are we still using the WHO report from China The Diamond Princess reportedly only had 40 patients out of 700 in severecritical territory I understand its a smaller sample but its such a stark difference it shouldnt be discounted South Korea and Germany reporting similar|1 My wife works at a marketing firm and they are getting hit hard with event cancellations across all APAC Mobile World Congress isnt happening for example and Cisco has canceled most of their events for the next few months|0 To be fair weve all pretty much been told not to wear masks|1 Me either Im in a different state and my dad insists on going out My mom is staying put but Im worried hell bring it home with him Ugh|0 Right there with you man I just dont get why bars are still open Its a ticking time bomb right now I see people come in to my work sniffling and we cant do anything about it while the owners are counting bills in their homes away from it Glad I moved to Florida for my fresh restart in life|1 Water is good for ya bro|1 Ah good thanks for the confirmation|1 that curvature could be partly determined by limits on detection within Wuhan I doubt it will flatten that quickly but we will surely know in a week|1 I remember watching the news from China seven weeks ago this is going to be a repeat The next issue within 3 weeks is lack of ICU beds The US should be adding ICU beds as fast as possible starting four weeks ago People with serious pneumonia that are not on ventilators will die quickly exactly what happened in Wuhan|0 Im gonna say something racist and then when someone calls me out on it Im going to downvote them and play it off like its ok to be a racist knuckledraggerNah no sports for me thanks|0 I have been watching since day one Its been very concerning and I have been worried that I was not seeing the true extent of the problem Ive been building a website with a friend to help track the extent of the situation across the world to understand better how severe this thing isI am a citizen of the UK and I have a number of key concerns1 Current metrics on the impact of COVID19 are focused on case fatality rates Ignoring the true community impacts Whilst the official statistics produced by world governments are extremely valuable they rely on government data from tests performed cases confirmed deaths and recoveries They do not tell the community story How many people were refused tests How many have severe symptoms but have not been to a doctor What is the household size of those infected sick How many of those have travelled abroad recently How is this outbreak impacting the mental health of sick and healthy individuals2 Testing will stop soon As the virus spreads at an exponential rate it will become increasingly hard to test everyone Many Governments have already stopped testing Many sick people are being refused tests How then will we track and measure the extent of the virus How will we know when we have reached the point of herd immunity3 Complacency in unaffected communities It is very difficult for communities unaffected by the virus to comprehend the impact it will have People by their nature will hope for the best We need to support their hopes whilst helping them plan for less favourable scenarios Optimism biases will lead individuals to make errors in decision making as they go about their daily lives Do they really need to self isolate Do they need to increase daily handwashing frequency if there are no cases in their immediate area Should they visit that sick friend with a cough Data has the potential to communicate the true extent of the problem and help rational decision makingI believe the best solution to the above is to ask people sick and healthy to self report their situation Rather than have governments collect the data and report to their citizens the citizens can create their own records and make them visible to one anotherAnyway this is the site We are still making updates to it dailyhttpcovid19trackcomhttpcovid19trackcomPlease share any feedback you have Thanks|1 Thats actually pretty goodI didnt think to apply technical analysis tricks Still were dealing with daily data of which only a few days is any good but going forward I might use that Cheers|1 So its basically again the educated people vs the ignorant Those are the lines being drawn in society and the powerful are weaponising the ignorant in order to consolidate wealth and power|1 Critical thinking is in short supply in America my friend|1 I say that because every study I can find now including over a thousand people in two different epidemics 20 years apart about 1 of the total known cases shows smokers are much less likely to be diagnosed That quote is just an assumptionspeculation they had no data to back it up In fact if they had looked at the SARS data I doubt they would have written itIf you have some evidence that smokers are more susceptible Id love to see it|1 I cant believe what a positive reception this absolutely ridiculous policy is gettingCoronavirus is not going to check anyones passport before infecting themWhat if the Chinese citizen comes from the United States What sense does it make to stop them from enteringWhat if a Russian citizen comes from Wuhan What sense does it make to let them inThis is not the policy you want|0 wow|1 Fuck My family immigrated from South Korea to the US 25 years ago Ugh Lol jk I love this country except the healthcare system I love Taco Bell too much to leave|1 Yes the overall numbers are fed because they are dominated by Hubei But outside of Hubei the hospitals are not overloaded and they dont need to send suspicious cases home without testing The criteria for testing outside of Hubei is probably not so different from whats going on in Hong Kong Singapore Taiwan|1 yes i listened to the whole thing again but i only heard the word airborne and clinical spectrum in the last portions of the video and he used it mixed with Chinese I havent finished listening to the video because ive been trying to explain the medical usage of the word airborne|1 Yes thank you We want data not peoples worthless opinions|1 I think things are getting to the point where you should stay home and not pay rent or utilities There are multiple states who have turned back on the water for people who havent paid their bills just so they can wash their hands I assume similar things will happen more frequently as this gets worse|0 Because they do not want to find out how many infections there really areI just read an article about an hour ago that quoted the top Washington state health official it went something like this paraphrasing there is no need to seek out testing if you are infected We have no treatment and therefore it does not matter if you test positive as we will be treating this the same way we do with other virusesUS is doomed There is little to no preparation and officials seem to be taking the cover it up route|0 Same Id HAPPILY stay home for months on end Only time it might get sketchy is if we would lose internet Otherwise Reddit World of Warcraft and TiVoNetflix would keep the boredom away|1 You need to add a s to your post LOL|1 There is a concern that Asians might do better than Caucasians There is a genetic difference in the receptor expression|1 A chance for gtx 970 captain of reasonably priced and powerful cards to show its quality|1 I wrote one outHand sanitizer at foyerSpray down bags keys and wallet with Lysol or use a wipe on the bag Wipe phone with a lysol wipeShower immediately and change clothes spray clothes if possible and do not rewear clothes you have been outside withWear a mask outside an isolated zone in your place if there is someone who is at high risk from the infection you may have it and be shedding but be asymptomaticIts a bit excessive but it covers lots of basesAlso goes without saying if you can stay home do it Its about to get bad out here|0 The first to be exposed would be healthy adults going about their day Their cases are mild and they dont seek help The ill and elderly are going to be home more We are just seeing the start of those most at risk being exposed from milder cases For example care worker at the Kirkland facility Its just the start|0 I get what youre saying and Id imagine theres a lot of people with flulike symptoms in NY right now or no symptoms at all Italy has an older population so thats probably a huge factor in it being so noticable as the cases are more severe and prompting people to get tested in the first place The UK is no longer disclosing as far as Im aware if theyre travel related or not but a lot of the initial cases were travel or related to people who had travelled Id imagine there is community spread there too but unless peoples symptoms are severe enough to get treatment its probably being passed off as a cold or flu|0 If the virus was affecting Chinas military I can guarantee it would never be publically reported|1 We are late January Spring break is in March They are implementing it now late February Using your logic its nothing to hold up as a model because they were going on a break anywayAnd LMAO you are the one all pressed going all why are yall praising Vietnam Its not a model Omg but keep projecting bb Im just using your own logic lol|1 i wish people would fucking listen my mom wont let it go that its just being blown out of proportion because thats what DOCTOR OZ fucking said|1 You need to test them all then which would reveal the extent of the infection which Japanese Government is adamantly against because of PR reasonsAfter all finding out that everyone on the ship is infected in 2 weeks when the world has way more than 100K cases is less dramatic than finding 1000 cases today and saving 3000|0 I meant that location data could be made more precise Eg inputting Leeds is of limited use when it could mean so many places in the Leeds general area iykwim So using what3words if possible would mean that a more precise location was used but obviously people wont want to enter their full address in case some nutter comes knocking on their door with a pitchfork P|0 Its usually in the fine print that you must have a working PC with a webcam to attend most US universities|1 It would allow those on twitter to tell their followers they have the corona|1 Over here in my city in Mexico we got to the warm weather one month early having basically 30 Celcius every day and a lot of sun this is the only time Im glad of global warming|1 Brave ladies I wish them luck|1 The problem with people I learnt with global warming is that they wont move their asses until the fire is right under their own butts|0 Although the future is a little bit frightening|0 Which translates to exposed to all kinds|0 Sorry about the late reply but that was what it was like I actually saw a dead relative in the corner of the room He told me I was dying and the next few moments were what would decide if I did or not Good times|0 So much for Reggie saving them from being giant assholes|0 Nobody ever claimed caucasians are immune|1 Well good thing Americans are immune to the ForeignChinese Coronavirus|1 You should quit out of respect for yourself and not wanting to be a slave to a substance Not some current news story hyping up fear With the coronavirus your motivator youll start smoking as soon as the news stories start to die down Source ex smoker for a couple years now|0 Please dont come to China unless its for essential purposes I just booked a cheap flight there to buy some toilet paper Does that count s|1 httpswwwnytimescom20200301nyregionnewyorkcoronvirusconfirmedhtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200301nyregionnewyorkcoronvirusconfirmedhtml Gov Andrew M Cuomo on Sunday confirmed New York States first case of the coronavirus saying that a woman contracted the virus while traveling in Iran and is now in New York City isolated in her homeThe patient has respiratory symptoms but is not in serious condition and has been in a controlled situation since arriving to New York Governor Cuomo said in a statementThe woman who is in her late 30s is in Manhattan according to state officials It was not immediately clear when she returned from IranHer test was confirmed Sunday in the Wadsworth Lab in Albany NY It will now be confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and PreventionMore than 70 people in the United States have been confirmed through laboratory testing to have the new coronavirus Many had been passengershttpswwwnytimescom20200301worldcoronavirusnewshtmlactionclickmoduleTop20StoriespgtypeHomepage on a cruise ship ravaged by the virus or had been infected in China and then returned to the United StatesBut there have also been several confirmed cases of persontopersonhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcasesinushtml spread in the United States And researchers say that in Washington State the virus may have been spreading for weekshttpswwwnytimescom20200301healthcoronaviruswashingtonspreadhtml largely undetected and that hundreds of people may have possibly been infected One person in Washington has diedhttpswwwnytimescom20200229uscoronaviruswashingtondeathhtml after falling ill with the new coronavirus|0 true|1 Significant community spread appears to be present in Georgia currently underappreciated|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rdeuxrama Marcon to take his cougar bughunting and encourages his fellow EU citizens to do the samehttpswwwredditcomrDeuxRAMAcommentsffkcgfmarcontotakehiscougarbughuntingandnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 First thing I do when I get to Salt Lake City is take in the amazing jazz scene Then I pop over to Memphis to look at all the grizzly bears After that maybe even pop over to LA to camp among all their amazing lakes|1 Im a she But its funny how reddit always assumes people are male I do it too |1 Ive seen this idea floated on here before It would be great but the thing isyoung babies at least ones that dont go to daycare or have siblings in school havent usually been very exposed to cold germs Yet afaik there are no reports of death or serious illness in that age group I would think they would be the most vulnerable if this theory was true I have a 5 month old who I take care of at home and he hasnt been exposed to much yet since I dont like to take him out during such a bad flu season so I think about this a lot|0 Affected|0 Definitely bias Do they think just because they have stats on their side that it beats your opinion|1 Uhh America is the best country in the world theres no way a disease could spread here dont you know about our freedom and right to bear arms s|1 So it is a pandemic and not an epidemic 700 cases outside china with 60 in Japan after how many weeks please enlighten me|1 Thank you I am feeling a tad bit better maybe its the ibuprofen but I feel better|1 Think of the average persons intelligence Half of the people are dumber than him People would freak out and mess everything up|0 Its highly unlikely that the gaspowerwater will go out The experts current worse case scenario for the UK is that a fifth of our working population might be sick with coronavirus at the same time Utilities can actually run with a very small number of staff if need be so even if a fifth of the utility workers are off sick we likely wont lose power or waterWith regards to planning food preps maybe try to split it down into what youd like to have for breakfasts lunches dinners and snacks then figure out how many days you want to prep for and buy ingredients accordingly For example say you want porridge for breakfasts A bag of oats might make 10 bowls of porridge and a 1L UHT carton of milk might make 5 bowls So if you get 2 bags of oats and 4 cartons of milk youll have 20 portions of nutritious shelfstable breakfasts prepped Lunches might be beans and rice A 1kg large bag of dried chickpeas and a 1kg bag of ricemight be 10 portions of lunches Add in a tub of curry powder and a couple tins of coconut cream and you can have 10 nutritious portions of curried chickpeas and rice for very little money Ive got more ideas if you want them but Im just trying to illustrate that if you break it down like this it can be less overwhelming vitamin tablets can also help cover any nutritional gaps you might get on a restricted diet too so you dont need to worry too much about it being perfect|1 I recognize your username and I only look at the handle if the comment is batshit or unusually hostile You are at least one of the two if not both my friend|0 Im just wondering if theyre in the process of updating it But then when they give us some ridiculously large number of tested Ill still be skeptical because I have zero faith in them at this point|0 I agree with that The schools will close But as a nurse Im not sure what we are going to do We have family but they are old and should not expose themselves I dont even know if they would say yes if we asked Who knows what germs I will be bringing home|1 China sure lied about a lot in the beginning But when the shit hit the fan and the extent of the problem became obvious they threw everything they had into controlling the situation trying to contain it geographically and keeping people alive This is the better strategy even if you assume that CCP is vicious and evil|1 Thats the longest incubation is 2 weeks on average its 27 days outside of China its fully contained there is concern but there are excellent public health prevention|1 excellenthope for all that fast swift action and lockdown can slow it down|1 Done Brilliant thanks|1 My friend just said every single hospital in China has stopped accepting new patients GG|1 You should not go to work Are you in Ontario BC says the only people who get tested from now on are health care workers or people severely ill So supposedly as health care workers you would get some sort of priority in BC Maybe everything has gone to hell and it will be like Wuhan or Iran The health care system seemed on the verge of collapse before this started|0 They stated those exact words With calculated confidence As if they believed it as fact|1 Its not exactly answering the same question Also I would caution making interpretations based on a rat study where lung mechanics are different We already know high tidal volumes are bad but you cant apply that to what we are doing in real life since we arent using high tidal volumes for ventilation This is in response to the higher rates of mortality in ventilated patients in general|0 Of course I am in no way saying that young people can just ride this out living life as usual|0 that rate in Italy is only from confirmed cases its likely their are 4 times as many infected but not confirmed and not dying|0 I actually heard about Chens disappearance first from Fang Bins videoIts ironic that Chen Qiushi was checking up on Fang Bin just 2 days ago to see if he was safe|1 Im pretty sure theyre being ordered to do this|1 You sure you responded to the right comment|1 If we trust the official statistics it seems like it is a solved issue in ChinaI dont think it is possible to implement quarantine measures in the West Most people wont tolerate restriction of movement let alone youre forbidden to leave home radical measures seen in Hubei|1 Unsubstantiated rumours are why I come to reddit Without rumours I might as well just read only BBC and The Guardian Rumours usually turn out to be true eventually The wisdom of the crowd finds the truth eventually Without rumours my mental health suffers because I feel like Im in the dark WITHOUT people freely sharing rumours|1 Less new cases than yesterday but still514 new seriouscritical also a smaller increase than yesterdays|1 Correct neither cooking nor freezing will destroy prions Just soak your meat in formalin overnight and it will deactivate them But dont eat it because then it will be disgusting and poisonous|0 The response is we didnt do anything then why would we do anything now with tons of likes and hearts Pretty disheartening|1 Yeah people had that complacent mentality because we didnt have any new cases for four consecutive days|1 There goes Colorado being reasonable again I mean birth control marijuana and now this type of response to a crisis You go Colorado|0 As they remove data about of tested patients from CDC websiteIm sure anyone OUR government sends out to edit information on the internet is perfectly well intentioned|1 It sounds like youre starting a cult|1 New reporthttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvycrqXJYf1SU from Four Corners an investigative program on the ABC Australias BBC CBC MSM finally starting to report on and confirm what weve been posting about for weeks There was always a point where they werent gonna be able to hide it anymore I suspect as it has become obvious they have been unable to contain the spread these reports are communications to prepare westerners for the inevitable|0 Whats race have to do with the government being incompetent|0 Excluding Italy Iran South Korea like just look at the statisticsyou cant deny its already spreading fast|1 Thats the honeycomblike lesions in the lungs which is permanent damage I bethttpswwwnationalgeographiccomscience202002hereiswhatcoronavirusdoestothebodyE didnt notice this was about SARS1 still a good article and might apply|0 Indeed China is the sick and mentally ill man of Asia We will soon discover what it has been hiding since December as the full effects of the Wuhan Coronavirus unfold outside of China|0 Some people are not respecting the government and health officials guidelines|0 Ive been reminded of that scene so much recently thats really what it feels like|1 America is only looking for profit|1 Thank you Yes I have a great group who believe in the flu shot We just cancelled a party due to bringing too many people into our home|1 Pretty much this The competition is fierce in China and if parents see other people using every advantage they can to help their child even if it isnt completely legal they will do the same otherwise risk letting their child fall behind and not be as successful in getting into a top school or something|1 While that may be true his airport ride isnt going to kill anyone that wasnt involved in the accident|1 I chuckled a little when I read this Living in the USA they take care of peoplefor a priceThats unfortunately the state of things here That and the orange man baby president worrying more about the optics of Coronavirus and how it affects HIM instead of doing his job and protecting the country he runs|1 Confirmed cases That was when they just figured out how to test for this virus and have to run the tests in a lab one suspected case at a timeThe official count was never meant to indicate the total number of infections People who immediately jump to the government is obviously lying simply have no clue how any of this works|0 Local governments arent part of the bigger picture Its the overall communist party that is orchestrating this|1 One could argue that millionaires may have higher payments but also posses significant reserves while those with limited payments are working paycheck to paycheck If you are well off you can get buy without excessive spending for a few months and have that money to go to those who truly need it where it would make a bigger impact on|1 IIRC its just highly infectious because the average human doesnt have antibodies COVID vulnerability is like if modern humans time traveled 300 years ago right|1 It seems like theres like a 70 chance of death of youre 80 Every time someone does they are 80|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Do we know that Id love to learn more|1 Most parents will have no choice but to put their children in daycare but isnt a group of children in daycare exactly the same thing as schoolMy Canadian province just made the same announcement and I dont have kids but all my friends with kids are panicking The government hasnt made any corresponding announcement about increasing sick time or unpaid leave or protecting jobs Its feeling a little like this is something the politicians are doing because its a cheap and easy thing to do that will make great publicity about how proactive theyre being|1 who come here for some validation because the people in real life hurt their fee feesWellyoure not really wrong Every day theres some post about someone not believing them andor Whos laughing now Reddit users need for validation is almost pathetic and its across every subreddit|0 Theres no shortages except for the obvious surgical masks and hand sanitiser Supermarkets are still open so food and water are fineThe main concern for me is that the hospital closest to me is on lockdown which means that Id have to look for one thats open if Im sick or injured|0 No Im rather ugly and simple|0 Unrelated I had a friend that went by Lexx Kitten I appreciate your username|1 The State Department certainly is|1 u will soon hit such a high amount of infected U can not in any way shape or form test them all|0 II The preventative measures were poorSouth Korea were one of the few countries in the world to not ban travelers from China not even quarantining and testing themAccording to Reuters httpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthsouthkoreachurchmembersofchurchatcenterofsouthkoreascoronavirusoutbreakvisitedwuhankcdcidUSKBN20O1D5SEOUL Reuters Some members of a church at the center of South Koreas coronavirus outbreak visited the Chinese city of Wuhan in January where the disease is believed to have originated the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on SundayMost of the South Korean patients were traced to a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in the southeastern city of Daegu The church had a presence in WuhanKwon Junwook a KCDC official confirmed for the first time that some members of the church visited Wuhan during a briefing He said it was unclear how many went there and whether the trip played a role in the outbreakEmphasis minePatient 29 30 and 31 were all community cases who got infected from someone else around the end of Jan and beginning of Feb Assuming that they were only the second link in a chain and not somewhere further down we can see that the people who infected them were infected by end of Jan at the latest estimation when there was 17 000 infected cases in Hubei the Chinese authorities hadnt enacted lockdown on Hubei and prevented Chinese nationals from going to other countries on tours and the South Korean government didnt even enact quarantine on all travelers from China Even if a member of Shincheonji travelling from Wuhan was the only patient 0 the only reason why they would managed to get in and spread the disease undetected in South Korea was because the South Korean government refused to enact proper preventative measures and waited for China to do it for them And judging from the 4 different alarm bells within 2 weeks either there wasnt only 1 patient 0 or there was a super spreader patient 0 undetected Further genetic testing of the viral strains within the infected population can determine exactly which scenario it was but as of now I havent come across such reportTo sum up part 2 The preventative measures to prevent the epidemic from entering the country were either lacking or done poorly in line with the subsequent poor containment measures and failure to put out the epidemic quickly due to inherent structural problemsIII The inherent structural problemsA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease and not wear masks is allowed to exist and spread their ideology for years httpseditioncnncom20200226asiashincheonjisouthkoreahnkintlindexhtmlA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease was allowed to infiltrate the political and healthcare system so deeply that a senior health official in charge of infection prevention in Daegu was discovered to be a member after he was tested positive httpswwwlatimescomworldnationstory20200227southkoreacoronaviruscasessurveillance A healthcare and political system inexperienced with and reactive instead of proactive in dealing with epidemic having overfocused on preparing for when the epidemic had already got out of control having failed to prepare and enact the measures in the 2 most crucial time periods of epidemic development the preventative windows and the containment windowsA healthcare political and social structure that allows people to skip quarantine and testing even in a middle of a pandemic of all things when the lives of thousands of people both inside the country and in the world are on the lineA healthcare political and social structure that condemns other countries for having actually preventing the spread by quarantining testing and treating their people Because human rights Even when thousands are going to be deprived their own basic human rights to be healthy to have medical attention and to be not dead because of such human rightsA government that did not stand up to protect its people against the slightest pressure from the neighborhood superpower that same human rights violator neighborhood superpower even though that neighborhood superpower later retracted the pressure and enacted the travel restriction themselves But that government would readily kick up a storm when other countries actually do what they failed to doThe sensationalist media and government authorities keep on shifting all the blames on various other targets other than themselves instead of recognizing the inherent structural problems in the South Korean political and healthcare system and actually fixing themWhile many many South Korean individuals especially the healthcare professionals have been doing their best to fight back the epidemic it is also undeniable that the political and healthcare structure of South Korea as a whole did very poorly in preventing and containing covid19 resulting in the silent spread of the epidemic among the population around end of January and early February which was the reason why the number of reported infected cases spiked around the end of February|0 Welcome to the boat my friend The entire nation of China and Italy went into lockdown just so they can play one grand fake news prank on us all Just take care of yourself and keep those people in the back of your mind as being completely untrustworthy Theyll be the first after you for supplies when shit really hits the fan|1 Yeah they are cut from the same cloth Im giving hand washing reminders all day long|1 Well done Thank you for your efforts|1 Have the happiest of cake days|1 Which idiot actually goes to RE Come on In my day we swerved that lesson and hid in an empty classroom Usually the German language teachers room where wed record over the German tapes Who remembers the Hilfe book Just random words in the middle somewhere and call each other by names of kids who werent there Just kidding you should go to class but your teacher is definitely a muppet|1 What Im most concerned about is that between my parents place and the city is a small town full of small town folk They dont like flatlanders from the city on a good day If they thought that a bunch of potentially diseased flatlanders were headed up the hill to flee a quarantine of the city theyll absolutely shut the highway down Thanks for the reminder about gas Theres not many gas stations between here and there and I dont have anywhere safe in the city that I could store a jug of extra gas just in case|1 Ive read a lot on that and I am not convinced those cases were reinfections|0 True And if not telling me the truth helps them fight the virus well then ok But I think being forthcoming is the best way|1 There were many false calls from the ALTA reports and there were quite a few that turned out to be spot on This guy Clif is on to something with the concept in general Considering all the info floating around out there I found it interesting|1 Trump nuked the organization that was in charge of stuff like this to free up money for his wall and gifts to billionaires So if you are really looking for people to blame|1 TbhIm not ready for our little quarantine thingDenmark is a very happy country and to see very few people out of the house and no excited tourists is very sad to see|0 What are long term affects of a virus that does this The flu doesnt do this correct|0 It took years to find the link between genetics and H1N1pdm09 SARSCoV vulnerability Weve eventually know if this was or wasnt a thing well after the fact That said its entirely plausible that a betacoronavirus has specific IFITM related properties which make given ethnic populations more vulnerable it happens all the time Something ACE2 related Could be too but Im not aware of that specifically before other than in hypertension|0 if u wanna change that i saw someone on twitter saying that because some kpop singer had a shot in their music video outside it was a direct call to that photo of the malnutrished starving african kid herehttpsimgurcomasARJID2|0 the mortality rate is closer to 1012 overall for those who are infectedI dont think the CFR for all infected is known yetThese CFR estimates are for diagnosed cases who have sought medical help and gotten into hospitalsWe really have no idea how many people in Wuhan or anywhere else for that matter are infected It is impossible to know at this point It is likely that in Wuhan the undiagnosed infected are much more numerous than elsewhereA bit later you could test for example 1000 random people for disease specific antibodies and determine how many of them have been infected in the past|0 Flu is a family of virusYou dont get the same virus with flu You get another one each time This is the same|0 I cant stand to talk to such selfish and ignorant people like that right now|0 Ive been warning people since January They all called me nuts at that time even friends that I have that are nurses Now theyre coming back and saying Oh my god you were rightIts really really hard not to say I TOLD YOU SO|0 I was called a holocaust denier because I said which is a historical fact btw that the Tiananmen massacre didnt happen on Tiananmen square but elsewhere in Beijing|0 you dont need to be a prepper things arent going to fully disappear especially if youre in a city but i think its reasonable to have a little extra and be prepared for delays therefore if you have things you need on a specific time schedule a medication food basic hygiene supplies it makes sense to fill yourself up to what would be a regularly stocked level for you maybe plus a little in case you want to share or one item turns out to be damaged later even where i am 5 miles north of kirkland WA stores are still well stocked and open some cold and flu purchases are limited to purchase but not depleted and you can still get to the drug store so unhurriedly make your purchases and social distance and wash your hands|0 Okay Im sorry Ive had a bad month and my mental health has taken a complete nosedive After looking at the leaked footage from Wuhan and the terrible state those poor people are in I needed to be medicated for panic attacks They gave me buspirone and lorazepam because my symptoms were so severe I just wanted reassurance from the experts who are intheknow that serious resources are going into counteracting this The internet is amazing Nobody in 1918 had a resource like this or access to so much knowledge Im literally conversing with people across the globe about this people with degrees who know and understand far more about pathogens and molecular biology than I do I am humbled I have also grown very interested in biotech and the study of molecular biology over these past few weeks Are there any textbooks you can recommend for me to study that would be a good intro to biology I want to take my mind off the pandemic and actually learn something for real|0 I think thats exactly what he means Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing Emergency provisions are issued help is needed in the emergency room A quick meeting to learn how the to use to emergency room EHR and a few minutes later Im already downstairs next to the warriors on the war front|0 There is no lack of toilet paper in AustraliaThere may be a lack of toilet paper in certain store shelves The two biggest online shops had to limit per order but still have stock To support as many customers as possible there is a limit of 2 packs of toilet paper per order We apologise for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience Due to the current high demand for Toilet Paper we have introduced a temporary limit of 1 pack per transaction This will help to maintain availability for all our customers|1 Money helps when we know what were treating but when doctors dont know what theyre going against yet its not going to be much help|1 What a shit stain of comment Full of generalisations assumptions and just utter crap You saw my small comment and went all social justice soapbox Can you kinda just fuck off and appreciate my comment for what I actually meant|0 Two days ago the Minister responsible for EI was on CBC Radio and asked to clarify the changes She clearly stated that the one week waiting period for EI sickness claims would only be waived for those with a confirmed COVID19 diagnosis Anyone who because of COVID19 has reduced hours asked to voluntarily stay home or laid off would need to apply for regular EI benefits and be subject to the same rules and regulations|1 op came off as a self righteous neckbeard intellectualby the way he told the story the other person was only pointing that outthey never said they dont care|0 Its terrifying that you could get lung scarring and then get it again Now youre for sure a goner bc you have a comorbid condition|0 Dont do that to the school You need to remove its name Their office secretary just lost a colleague and a friend That person doesnt need 10000 phone calls from angry redditors tearing into herEdit Thanks for removing it You did the right thing The schools are run by regular people just as flawed and uninformed as the rest of us|1 dead doctors with masks disagree|0 In actual fact we got a nice payrise through this busy period and plenty of overtime available|1 I was on one of those tower drop rides when I was a teenager and had that exact thing happen We got to the top and when it dropped us the entire harness part became unsecure and popped up Like not doing anything completely loose doing nothing to hold me in placeI bear hugged the fuck out of the harness thing and held on for dear life It scared the shit out of me I dont go near rides anymore|1 Not really You are the type of person who would go outside and spread it yourself by doing as you damn pleaseAmerica doesnt need people that want to get others sick for their own selfish inability to stay at home|0 Haha Or Iran How deeply endemic does a disease have to be for your States ruling class to start dying|1 well all the labor gets a false sense of security while they collect dirty money|1 Mine is diligently hanging posters in the bathrooms Its an absolute joke|1 You can keep downvoting me if you want I was legitimately interested Ive never heard anyone with a bad word to say about him apart from Chinese anti Tibet brigadeWhat is the truth people are scared of|0 Theyre covered under no unsourced speculation and no medical advice Please report comments you think are breaking these rules|0 This is Plague Inc Mega Brutal mode|0 Sorry were Veniced|0 Yah we should be encouraging homemade masks You can make really effective ones with just tissues and a paper towel tape and some rubber bands plus a metal flex bar if you can find them|1 You just described something that I can imagine happening to me with Doctors I do think we have more access to credible medical information than they care to reveal If I were you I would isolate self treat and tell someone intelligent who cares about your wellbeing Ask your friend to keep an eye on you call or skype regularly and to call paramedics for help if something looks or sounds really wrong From what I read there is no real treatment for the virus because it is a virus They can only give supportive care fever meds IV fluids for dehydration and maybe some Tamiflu that allegedly does nothing to help Buy some Gatorade some liquid meals for simplicity and binge watch Netflix Just take care of yourself for now and find someone trustworthy to watch out for you if you need an ambulance|1 If us Brits had a national religion it would be the NHSWhen it is has been since 1948 and likely always will be the Governments problem to look after the health of British people they will always be proactive Letting it get worse creates a greater problem for them laterThe government go to a lot of effort to protect public health investing in education campaigns everyone remembers Catch it Bin it Kill ithttpsyoutubeMqjPyaViM4 regulating the food industry taxing sugarhttpswwwgovukgovernmentnewssoftdrinksindustrylevycomesintoeffect because the better the general health of the British people the less the government has to spend on actual health care And its bloody expensivehttpsfullfactorghealthhowmuchmoneydoesnhsneedSo I expect a very strong response from the British government because it is the governments health crisis if it spirals out of control There are plans in place to shut down schools public transporthttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb25coronavirusfearsgrowasmorecasesfoundacrosseurope and I expect the UK to make this decision very early minimising the impact We are testing thousands as we speakhttpswwwbbccouknewsampuk51641243 and I expect our response depending on those results will likely be immediateA lot of British people take this for granted and complain but I am very grateful for and very proud of our NHS|1 Lost my dad last May and I cant help but feel its made what could come seem so much more terrifying I couldnt agree more with you|0 In SWFL we have severe restrictions in place for visitors You so much as cough GoneLook sick GoneFever GoneStaff thinks something is off Gone|0 First confirmed case less than a week old Hes putting it down I respect him and he knows how hard this is Hes doing the right thing|1 It was martial law in China Everything was shut down There are few imports into the USApollution disappeared as all the factories closed|0 Those leave behind residue last I checked|0 This really is playing out like a plaugeninc game|1 First of all testing is not prevention Vaccine is prevention Good hand hygiene is prevention Quarantine is prevention Testing will only verify that its the corona virus it does not prevent the spread of the virus Thats why we have the 14day quarantine Also the symptom of the Corona virus is very similar to the flu And since we are in the peak of flu season it is important to not misdiagnose and miscount Thats why we need to test even after symptoms show Also it has been shown that the Corona virus is more contagious than the regular flu which would require more careful protection As for the papers I did read them and it seems to me you have missed on some important information Study 1 Stricter regimes only delayed the inevitable Our analysis of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic shows that the observed decline in air travel tofrom Mexico was of too small a magnitude to impact the international spread Stricter regimes of travel reduction would have led to delays on the order of two weeks even in the optimistic case of early intervention It is unlikely that given the everincreasing mobility of people travel restrictions could be used effectively in a future pandemic event Second paper the study came out in 2006 where the H5N1 vaccine was approved by the FDA in 2007 So no there was no vaccine for H5N1 at the time of the study Our simulations indicate that the rapid imposition of a 90 reduction in domestic travel would slow the virus spread by only a few days to weeks depending on R 0 without reducing the eventual size of the outbreak unless other behavioral or medical responses are introducedYes the vaccine and travel restriction must be used in combination to stop the pandemic But at this time no vaccine is available for Corona virus So travel ban is mostly seen as not very effective Its more of a political move As for the Chinese response in Wuhan I would say a only the Chinese government can implement such a measure lock down of a city with a population of 11 million and b the epidemic was already pretty wide spread at that time when the lock down occured and we have yet to see the effectiveness of it|0 Meanwhile in Norway All schools are closed Denmark closing borders all schools and some restaurants are closed Sweden even got criticism from China that if we doesnt do anything drastic we are in deep trouble httpswwwaftonbladetsenyheteralA5mAolarmetinifranvardenfinnsingenskyddsutrustning|0 FAKE NEWS|0 If you are getting worse Phone them again|0 2 gallons Do you want to set your home on fire Maximum allowed amount even in lab for hand use is 1 litre all above that up to 5 l are stored in a fire and explosion proof cabinetI worked as a chemistry technician|0 I posted the nurses triage guide in another comment here This is why people turned away No one in charge has a clue Its time to fend for yourself vs relying on poorly informed govt|0 Yep same for hand sanitizer They buy all that shit up and then try to sell it for 5 times the price Glad eBay and Amazon are cracking down on it finally and hope it works to stop the people doing that|1 What he means is that you might not die at allYou see Coronavirus is like a box of chocolates|1 We can and we actually do with lots and lots of them Herpes simplex virus for exampleIn 2012 an estimated 37 billion people under the age of 50 or 67 of the population had HSV1 infection Estimated prevalence of the infection was highest in Africa 87 and lowest in the Americas 4050httpswwwwhointnewsroomfactsheetsdetailherpessimplexvirus|0 Our findings are critically dependent on the assumptions underpinning our model and the timing and reporting of confirmed cases and there is considerable uncertainty associated with the outbreak at this early stageThey are basically basing this off of bad numbers and too little info and they know itAdd salt to taste|0 Sweden has no emergency stockpiles and all the hospitals are working on a justintime basis This fall there were some troubles with a supplier and lots of hospitals had to cancel everything but emergency operations because lack of equipment because they had no stockpiles One would think they learned something from that but i guess not|0 you a vegan or is it just other countries that eat the wrong meats and you eat the right ones|0 Actually covid is most likely around 120nm not 20nm It is big enough that it isnt airborne but is spread through droplets note the difference between airborne viruses which float through the air and those that spread via droplets which fall back to the ground after some time hence the 1m distancex200BThis means that the behavior of covid is probably quite different from your nanoparticlesx200BSurgical masks are not very useful at filtering out droplets per se but studies published in scientific papers show that people tend to touch their faces lessx200BAs for filters like HEPA or n95 the efficiency is actually lowest at 03 microns or 300nm The efficiency actually goes up for particles that are smaller than 300nmx200BLets be honest the only reason the US government is doing an ad blitz like this is because they are wholly unprepared and did almost nothing in the past two months to prepare for this virus This is why they are patronising their citizens and claiming that they are so dumb that they cant even put on a mask properly|1 We are richer and more educated than SK on an objective basis|1 I just read the US is adding 6 other countries to the ban|0 Thats not the usual bailout either Most bailouts are simply loans that get paid back with very very small interest rates|1 If no new cases confirmed in the next 14 days then I think we are still in the clear but cant help to think this spells trouble as I look back in 2003 SARS took many lives anyhow Im from Toronto and will post update if any|0 Western Montana I stocked up on nonperishable food a few days ago They were out of hand sanitizer at the Dollar Tree but fairly wellstocked on cleaning supplies including disinfectant wipes The pharmacy section had been raided but I was able to buy aspirin The mood here is somber but alert I ventured out for a haircut today and the people in the next booth were talking about the virusPeople think it cant come here because were geographically isolated however we have an airport that connects directly to large cities including SeattleI stopped my religious attendance last week Im sad but I dont want to catch it and if I were to get it I wouldnt want to spread it to any of the beloved old people in my congregation|0 I wondered about that when I was using my cup to refill a tea at this gas station convenience store Even just using the machine required touching let alone reusing a cup or getting a lidstraw|0 Thanks for this Good advice|1 The CCP presents themselves as the sole legitimate representative of ethnic Chinese people which extends beyond citizenship Look at their presence in chinatowns around the world The very notion that the word sinophobia is used is conforming to their propaganda Sure overt racist comments should be policed but not sinophobia The CCP as a modern technocratic fascist state should be isolated from the international community and ridiculed by any decent human being|0 dio can abbi un po di rispetto|0 If the people handling your food are sick you are already in a bad spot Ideally with how Starbucks is positioning itself any employees who know they had contact with an infected person or have had contact with a potentially infected person would self quarantineStarbucks has mentioned they are offering 14 days of paid leave for infectedquarantined team members so ideally nobody should feel the need to risk spreading infection for a paycheckLimiting exposure and educating on proper sanitation procedures is the best they can do outside of completely shuttering the business for an undisclosed amount of daysUnless every businesslandlord unite to float outofwork individuals until the all clear is given business unfortunately need to stay open for as long as safely possible That is the nature of the capitalistic society of the US|0 People are fucking cluelessUnfortunatelyIf only the virus selected the stupid among us onlyKeep on passing the information Smart Lurkers are also reading|0 We have been past the point of containment probably since the beginning of February Even without this new factor with a virus that spreads this easily and has such a long incubation period once it got out of Wuhan it wasnt going to stop The fact that now we are discovering that it may have a much lower mortality rate is fantastic news It means that society wont grind to a halt only to start up again and infect a whole new bunch of people bringing society to a halt again It means this whole ordeal might kill less people than it was projected to and that more people will have the peace of mind to know that the chances of them and their loved ones dying are less than they though it would be The ideal scenario is just that ideal But the real scenario is that its here and its not going to kill as many people as we thought it would|1 Just Awesome|1 Lol I didnt vote for him but Im glad he won Hes an idiot and an asshole but you cant argue with the economy If he doesnt start world war 3 he has my vote this time around|1 Remember that movie Contagion where doctors and scientists lead the way Well here you have an orange goop pretending he knows everything about anything I fear that the US will get ROCKED by this stupid virus|0 Oh wow Thats an interesting dream Have you thought about writing them a letter about your frustrations Even if you dont give it to them it could help to get it out all out on paper|1 If your symptoms become unmanageableIf youre under 50 theres a 1 chance it will even get that bad Stop bringing it to where all the most vulnerable people are They are not going to cure you They are going to tell you to stay the fuck at home and deal with it for a week or 2|0 Sub is now mostly rubbish thanks to massive influx of new posters Very different vibe to a month ago not that that version of coronavirus didnt have a few problems of its own|1 This was a business decision They know they pay their workers so little that people would be forced to come to work sick Walmart has no choice but to pay them if it actually wants them to leave|0 I think hes not getting tested for the same reason Trump isnt getting tested politics and opticsCant have citizens questioning the fitness of their leaders during a worldwide crisisNothing to do with medical criteria at all they will convey strength until the last moment possible|1 Yes but this could help in preventing a more widespread infection So lets say if you suddenly feel bad and sick maybe its the flu or the virus you can take the paid sick leave without having to give a doctors note|0 And of course less flu is always good|1 In 3 weeks wow lmao cant believe my grandma died just because of some flu Weak|0 Is your daughter near any of the known infected areas|0 Hopefully youre not too far where travel by car is out of the question|1 This is why theyve been pushing us to prep food in North America People will say that the government didnt tell them to but if you look on the cdc webpage itS there Ottawa citizen paper its there The press conference that just ended They told us to If you walk into nay store all the displays are prep items canned food crackers soups toilet paper bleach etcIf we prep now hten the stores can get more food in and we might have enough food to ride out the next few months moderately comfortable If we dontwell we might be hungry|1 Unfortunately this|0 Wrap your kids in plastic wrap and make them pretend they are hazmat tell em go clean the neighborhoodAlso lock the door behind them this should be the norm|1 There are only a few true global powers in the world US China EU Canada Japan Korea EU is putting out its own fire I bet Merkel is facing domestic pressure to put Germany first as well as the usual clan like Viktor Orban and Andrzej Duda Korea and Japan are busy with their own situations Canadawise the first lady just tested positive for the virus The US is suffering from its inept response plus the orangutan is wreaking havoc here and there Here in BC Canada our province performed more test on Saturday alone than the entire US combined since February So there is that|0 Awesome pictures man must be very spookyBased on that information alone if you know me irl then youve found my Reddit account lolIf your first name starts with a J Im going to lmao|1 While the US obviously fucked up this kind of incompetence isnt impossible in other countries either and rather than claiming China was conspiring to fuck the world over cant we just recognize that in times of crisis its hard to have all the different agencies personnel and entities working in the most efficient manner Ideally we get this to be a well oiled machine but its always challenging whether its China or the US|0 If you used a credit card it may have travel insurance|1 Wuhanflu is the best right now|1 Winnie didnt like itSo hes trying to hide it|0 Thats neat in theory but we have a perfect case study already in 1918 Philly vs St Louis Flattening the curve is able essential|1 Thank you I have an apartment so wasnt actually forced to leave I just dont want to be around when shit goes down If things are so bad I cant get back to get my things by the time my lease ends in four months I have a feeling I wont be concerned about material possessions then|0 Just a thought is this propaganda to keep people from making a run on the banks to withdraw cash Everyone knows former banker here that there is not anywhere near enough cash in circulation to give everyone their share in tangible spendable assets I have no doubt it spreads on money but I think we are already mostly a cashless society|0 That was mighty nice of you to do that for them Think of how much joy your brought into their lives at the very end When I went to visit my grandma who was 98 it made me so sad to see how lonely and ignored most of these people wereOne day when I was there I noticed most of the elderly were sitting in wheelchairs looking very glum and depressed Then in walks a lady with a beautiful black lab that was a therapy dog Every one of their faces brightened up and the cloak of despair immediately began to lift I saw smiles on every one of their faces as they were petting this lovely noble animal People like you make the world a much better place and in my book are heroes|1 To be fair the expert specifically said it may last for hours in labs but typically only minutes in real world scenarios and theyre still learningThe OP paper results are definitely from a lab setting with aerosols generated and tested in a rotating Goldberg drum I havent seen any real world results yet on SarsCov2 survival times|1 Good|1 lmao if you think most americans have family doctors anymore|1 When our governments plan to solve this the same way as CCP forcing anybody who is suspected of having the infection together with eachother some people choose to fight back by spreading the infection to as many as possibly in order to not be targeted individuallyOur ability to contain the virus locally depends on understanding that simple fact|0 Theyre killing us|0 If it makes you feel any better Ive been regularly wiping down my store with Clorox wipes and keeping as much distance between me and my customers as possible Not all of us are burying our heads in the sand And I know several police officers who are very much taking this seriously I may also be pestering the hell out of Maddox with emails about plans and precautions the city will be taking|0 The only thing common about this is the misinformation|0 Praise for those folks Also tendies|1 You clever bastard|0 The Russians are threatening to lock people up for this if it results in cross infection Was walking around Tescos and people were coughing Sneezing farting burping all over the place without tissues then fondling items on shelvesIm not OCD but now sanitising everything I can|0 Yeah and there would be a lot more of these stories undiscovered and that scares me|0 Apparently what I said was more common knowledge than I thought and there are some good explanations in the thread Much better than I could make|1 Its an amateur operation in the White House The top talent wont work there|1 Can only obviously speak for myself but Ive historically been an optimist After reading the research talking to people who are taking this seriously and talking to people who arent taking this seriously reading the perspectives of people who are leaps and bounds more qualified than I am to understand what could happen or whats likely to happen I am concerned I am cautious because I would rather everyone overreact and be done with this sooner than many underreact and lead to devastating outcomes like the nursing home in Washington the young people in the ICU in Texas the worried healthcare workers in NY Weeks ago people were saying this wouldnt spread in the US the death count wouldnt surpass those of the other more deadly coronaviruses we would never get to the point of shutting things down and yet here we are I am not for fear mongering but to ignore the case studies around the world and think the reaction is unwarranted is willful ignorance|0 34 mortality rate you guys are just trying to spread as much panic and chaos as you possibly can Why do you find it fun to try and freak people out|0 Food service employee here Am fucked|0 Murderer|0 My statement has nothing to do with this irrelevant report youve linked Not sure if youre following but our President has lost the popular vote and has recently been impeached and then acquitted by senators that represent less than half our population My point stands|1 What the fuck|0 I dont think its helpful to include outliers apart from to list them as outliers|0 To help pay for their billionaire and corporation windfall of a tax cut|1 Some of them will Ive got one cat whos very fussy hed rather starve than eat human food The other cat will eat anything including carpet mud and shoes|0 That second wind is actually nice In some ways maybe even better than normal But Im still not my normal self everything takes just a tiny bit longer to process The only person that can really tell consistently is my wife though|1 Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young is so concerned about Covid 19 that she allowed Queensland Health to go ahead with their annual womens leadership forum today 4 March 2020 date of this articleHere is a nice photo of the eventhttpstwittercomqldhealthnewsstatus1235085061952851968httpstwittercomqldhealthnewsstatus1235085061952851968It looks like around 900 people all jammed together breathing in each others exhaust for an entire day Presumably a lot of key people from the hospitals are at that event Hopefully no one was coughingI think we need to get real Our authorities are either concerned about the virus or they are not Events like these where you are potentially jeopardising the health system are not ok|1 I work for the post office We get a decent amount of sick leave and vacation leave And have a union where its difficult to be fired I wont be going to work if I think my family or my life could be at risk|0 the god in the old testament is not exactly a level headed guysanyway who knows i dont know there is some overloard who manipulates all of this the world is crazy|0 Their lives are not any more important than the lives of the people I care about so no I will not stop buying them|1 Absolutely Not illegal to homeschool at all All you have to do is write to the head and de register The only risk is that they may decline any registering to the same school in the future|1 This is stupid It just means people wont seek help|0 Good Action speaks louder Not too late to do the right thing|1 I dont want to downplay this thing its a big deal But that video is all theoretical lines into infinity explaining that it could technically spread until everyone is dead or immune some other way until the last like 30 seconds when they explain why reality is not that Its an interesting watch good to have in the back of your head but offers no true conclusions on coronavirus and the title is misleading|0 Or if your supply chain is disrupted due to factories in other countries shutting down If your cost to produce increases because you are moving operations makes sense that the product costs increase as well|1 The only thing my employer has done is say they are going to clean our desks every day|1 Correct The lung damage was noted in corpses Death is the highest severity level lol However lets not lose sight of the doctors recommendation to take measures early in the illness Not wait until the patient develops advanced illness then take measures|0 Ill leave it here but thats why I stated dioxide emissions it wasnt an accident Both molecules have a similar structure of two oxygen atoms with the singular variation being a single Carbon and a Sulfur atom each OCO3s website posits their mission statement is to monitor the environment inclusive of fossil fuels and manmade emissions which sulfur dioxide is conducive to for example released from coal and industry Therefore it would be fairly poor reporting not to include it Especially since the majority of evidence as a proponent to this theory is contingent on the SO2 concentrations being so high from industry that it accounts for the rumours|0 Yes this is true Im in Madrid and its a ghost town for the most part Amazingly some bars are still open and people are mingling but compared to a normal week its dead Also I arrived back here a week ago and did not go thru any screenings or scans at all Didnt even see any medics or sign whatsoever For those that dont know Madrid is one of the hardest hit cities in Europe outside of Italy right now|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Why would I discuss politics without discussing the most important political situation the UK has faced for decades That would be very silly|1 Dude there is no more danger to the water supply than normal Theres no need to be buying more than a case of it Everyone should have a case of water at home in case the water main breaks and it takes a day or two to repair No need to have more than that right now unless youre prepping for black swan scenarios where society collapses Even then youd be better off with filters and purifying tablets|0 I keep seeing people on facebook post memes like this will be road warrior type thing but history actually shows the reverse happens that people band together to help Humanity wouldnt have survived otherwise|1 How is it Gods fault for what we do Free will You cry to God for all the injustices that we elect to commit|1 In the US a lot of people are sheltered when it comes to procuring meat but if you go to rural Appalachia you have Amish markets where theyre selling chicken and rabbit meat out of wagons butchered that dayAnd theres even a squirrel hunting season in many states and people looking forward to shooting and filling their freezer with squirrel meat to eat My school used to close the first day of deer hunting season because it was a way of life everyone shot a deer to fill the freezer You were weird if you didnt|0 Yeah because everyone is wearing them now|1 i mean if there might be jobs that you could do and still be safe|1 hurr durr loud women bad dont you love when casual sexism is upvoted |0 The US is really botching this entire thing Not just botching it but failing at almost every aspect of dealing with it I dont understand why things like this are still happening given what we know about the infection and how it works Our glorious leader is trying to make this all about him and using it as a propaganda tool while our hospitals and care centers dont have enough resources and supplies to get everyone tested We are crashing into a barrier created completely by our politicians indifference and greed|1 Well Im curious what are other folks doing about rent OP Friends or family that you know I mean|1 At least in the B movie the virus will have an achilles heel This virus is the perfect virus for a pandemic|1 Best of luck to you Icy|1 Because that shit was total BSAnybody with half a fucking brain knows the attorney general didnt empty out someones personal property and donate it to anywhere I mean FFS Reddit is so fucking stupid sometimesThe scary thing to me is that so many of the idiots on Reddit just think that if that did happen thats all be great I mean fuck presonal property Fuck capitalism Fuck it all just take some dudes shit because you think hes an asshole and do whatever you want with it great I cringe thinking these idiots vote|0 Not OP But based one my friends in Wuhan1 not sure Wont speculate Just knownyou are not allowed to driver in certain areas of the city unless you have a special permit2 my friends there say there arent many vegetables But lots of alcohol And other packaged foods but food wont be great but still cant eat3 the number provided are way below actual reality Many people dont go to the hospital Or are misdiagnosed The lines in hospitals in the quarantined cities are quite long and because they are overwhelmed the number wont be accurateIve been living in Wuhan and know people in almost every major city in Hubei province|0 Yes She has 177 million followers from across the globe Way more effective and respect her for doing this|1 Yes I can and am staying home With luck my whole company will be able to stay home I sure hope so We need to assure that the other huge proportion of industries that rely on serving the public directly do not fail or if they close that thier employees and owner have a safety net Teleworkers have an advantage today but we need to keep everyones head above water|1 Perhaps you should pray|1 Yeah I know One more round or 5 to help spread the love around I bet theyre packed|1 It is sad luckily the older generation are quite tough and resourceful They were brought up without toilet paper for the most part and know how to use wash a rag wipes or kitchen roll It kind of shows how privileged todays generations are when they cant imagine using anything beyond toilet paper|1 Let me just take a sip from my drink and read that article while Im enjoying my free healthcare and paid sick leave|1 Im sure youre wrong|0 Yes some people were Or they thought it was a government conspiracy|0 Hoboken no jokin|0 No one said the infection is growing in the lungs Kids not only are asymptomatic but also recover from the infectionhttpswwwsciencealertcomifyoureworriedaboutchildrencatchingcoronavirushereswhatyouneedtoknow Theres no evidence of long term damage|0 Im going to cancel my trips this year too one in Europe and another on a cruise yikes It does suck and we may lose money over itbut in the end public health wins out The situation in Europe is getting increasingly bad and I feel the same will gradually happen here too I think many Americans dont want to believe it|0 Main issue right now is just preventing our hospitals from getting overwhelmedEven if you only tested the very sick you would know the rate is falling when the numbers of very sick people are falling|0 My state declared state of emergency I then have real estate people leaving their crap at my door ringing every doorbell in the neighborhood leaving sales materials on doorknobs My gosh people|0 it is meaningless but soap in general can wash better below nails so its still useful|1 Sorry about that Thats the interview to the researchers at MRC imperial regarding these reportshttpswwwimperialacukmrcglobalinfectiousdiseaseanalysisnewswuhancoronavirus|0 The people in charge are now lifting the testing restrictions in a bid to save face The USA was gifted a large window to prepare for this yet they have stumbled constantly This unrestricted test should have been here a month ago to better catch these things|1 It was Stiglitz I think who pointed out the absurdity that Wall St investors are treated as owners while in fact being speculators He feels German capitalism with real owners usually families provides a better longterm outcomeAs speculators have owner rights they ensure management follows purely shortterm objectives in exchange for their exorbitant salaries His solution is very interesting he would give more power to customers who he feels are the real investors and stakeholders in the long term That would be a new capitalist paradigm with a more real market economy where customers who invest by buying products are recognized as the true generators of wealth instead of the speculators who skim off the top|1 Wow Thats huge|1 Well if you have all the symptoms of a cold but none that coincide with the flu its very likely its only a cold However youre right youre not certain until proven as such via a test|0 I can imagine this as a scene in a made for TV disaster movie The credits roll Marathon of Death Can You Out Run the VirusThe camera focuses on the sweaty feverish volunteer slow motion take of runners grabbing the water and drinking the infected concoction Sounds of the crowd cheering on the runners in the background Cut to the beautiful Dr Diana Parker and her estranged but handsome ex husband whom she secretly longs for Within an hour the two lovers will have reconciled and saved the world until Marathon of Death 2 The ReMatch comes out|1 Later The school administration did everything they could How could we have known that having an infected person in a school can lead to others being infected|0 They are a retiree state with a huge seasonal population of old people who only live there in winter at risk now at risk to spread to the nations retirees in a few months|0 I hear you Im tired of saying it too but there are some of us ignoring it or not hearing it How can we be sure everyone knows what needs to be done|0 Or shake the jar because the BAK pools at the bottom of the container Keep it upside down even|0 Thats just silly of course its not a French conspiracyIts a hoax by the democrats to damage trump|0 Greatest of all time Is it your first day on the internet If so welcome|1 I deleted the Twitter app off of my phone because I was so overwhelmed by all the information I am taking all precautions been selfisolating since Monday Im immunocompromised re lupus and know thats basically the best I can do right now Trying to stop looking at the news for awhile but its been hard|1 Nobody keeps reserves everyone just ships on demand|0 as if there is any chance that this is the only person with coronavirus to arrive in NYC in the last month lololololol|1 In all fairness how much is the testIm not paying 3000 out of pocket unless its critical to my care Bad flu could be COVID19 cool Ill go into quarantine Im not paying for that test|0 stay safe stay indoors best way to avoid the first hospital overload be well|1 Please post that at rCoronavirusMemes |1 I so wish your math was right but it isnt Those kids go to art music pe the cafeteria bathrooms water fountains They have siblings in other grades So one teacher has potential to infect the entire campus No matter how many times you teach and remind kids still pick their nose put fingers in their mouth sneeze on others cough in faces dont wash their hands after using the restroom etc And that is just from the 6th graders I teach Once this hits the schools it is going to be so much worse|0 Look up your filter type herehttpswwwrespiratormaskprotectioncomRespiratorCartridgeFilterReferenceChartphp What youre looking for is P100 P95 or N95 built in filter or snap on top of the filter a prefilter cloth which is one of thoseP100 is the best then P95 then N95In certain places particulate filtering maybe P1P2P3 P3 P100 P2 is P95N95 Im not sure which myself and P1 is less than N95 rating|1 Btw what the failed attempts showed is that you cant force people into socialism and subsequently communism It has to come in an organic way|0 Good luck brotha|1 I am sorry you have to go through this I hope it dies down soon|1 Oh ok I thought that meant like mandatory quarantine for all|1 Should be 1100 per life saved|1 Italy and China warned you|0 Looks like somebody in China has registered an experiment using it httpwwwchictrorgcnshowprojenaspxproj49524 No results yet but then again there arent any real hard results for any of this stuff yet|1 To be fair there are quite a few small countries in Europe Luxembourg hits that after only 60 cases|1 It shows up fine for me on Google Maps I didnt even have to type the entire name and it autocompleted for meIn your screenshots it seems to be limiting the search to your own local area and not searching globallyAnyway if you ever cant find it here are coords305389688 1143511946|1 Im a foreigner and I feel embarrassed and appalled for you guys You were the envy of the world once but now a lot of people all over the world are thanking their lucky stars that theyre not American I have no idea whats going to happen next but it sure as hell wont be boring|0 Dont excuse them They are an immensely rich corporation with leadership responsibilities Its your job as leader to think beyond the shortterm and protect your employees from their own worst instincts If we could poll the employees in a future dystopia where 30 of them get sick and hundreds die yea Im pretty sure theyd hate Disney for putting them through this Plus this wholly ignores that Disney could easily give their employees some PTO|0 One could easily argue the reason the provincial government messed up so badly is because of fear of repercussions from the central government for allowing something like that to happen A climate of fear where everyone is expected to be perfect can lead to these coverups I do agree though that once the virus info really became public Beijing made their mission clear and has done a good job|1 They ordered all bars and night clubs to close for 30 days effective 5pm today One place literally with bar in the name posted the following on Facebook after the announcement FYI bar will remain OPEN We are classed and zoned as a restaurant as we have a full kitchen Come on down and support our staff this week and weekend Words fail me right now|1 Feeling lonely and having this anxiety is the worst part Not having anyone to talk to about concerns without being looked at like we are insane its difficult I asked my husband if he would wear a mask to work since Im chronically ill and he said no because hed look like a crazy person He literally cares more about how he looks than if there is even the slightest chance of me dying The moment everyone becomes aware I will be much more calm|0 I think its about more than tests at this point There seems to be a bunch of stuff going on that I dont fully understand around equipment and authorisation and availability of reagents that means that only a limited number of tests can be processed each day|0 Not that I give a shit about George or his death But is this really the same thingThat show is pretty popular I guess Maybe I just loved Braveheart|1 I agree with you Some of the states are moving fast to do things like close restaurants and bars But a number of states are still not moving yetThis is personal to me My wife volunteered at a school and they announced that one of the staff tested positive City health dept is no help Their 247 hotline was not answered over the weekend They we able to notify the school staff and student families But they forgot about volunteers Just a shit show of being totally unprepared to deal with something like this Isnt it their job to be prepared|1 Dont TestDont TellCases in Canada nahhh just a few here and there tHe RiSk rEmaINs LoW|0 Then ask yourself why is that Well its pretty simple Some countries only have a few imported cases and managed to track down and quarantine everyone that couldve come in contact In other countries the virus have gotten inside undetected and has been spreading locally making it impossible to track down and contain anymore US is in the second bin Prepare for Italylike outbreak within very short time|1 It always blew me away that he only served 5 years of a 45 year sentence So unjust|0 Thats why what the UK is doing is so bonkers Essentially welcoming the virus on to develop herd immunity when we know so little about how to treat it How about we stop ramp up measures now to give us time to prepare better and learn about it|1 Well its not failing its failed|1 We are both right There is a shortage of tests limiting availability and govt restrictions on testings Basically look we are all screwed This is just all playacting while Trump and company finish stocking their bunkers In a few days or weeks it will be Screw you Hope the whole coronavirus thing works out Theyll all be eating steak and banging hookers in a luxury underground lair while we fight over the last cans of tunafish|0 I do lawn and landscape Minimum interaction with people especially if I stay out of the gas station What worries me is my coworkers Im being really conscious about this or trying to but others will not be and it only takes one and the whole company will have it Riding in trucks together working on something mechanical etc Everyone is close to everyone at some point Im assuming it would be transferred fairly easily within close proximity like that|1 That is very strange because we have a total lockdown Everything is closed except for supermarket and local food stores chemistris and other essential goods suppliersDo you have fresh news|1 We shouldnt look at increase The more cases there are the larger the increase has to be to maintain the same increase|0 My 82 year old grandmother panicked because I was travelling through an airport last week The same grandmother refuses to consider stockpiling food or essential medication for herself Shes frail and dependent on family members for groceries errands and transport Apparently pandemics only effect people in foreign places|0 I edited below adding here as well What are the odds the genome was already mapped Ages ago If so that would suggest it may have come from a lab|1 Fussing with and touching the mask with your hands can lead to close contact between your finger tips highly exposed to places where the virus can be unintentionally left ie doorknob and your eyes ears and nose this is why you should not wear a mask If you have symptoms cover your mouthnose when sneezingcoughing and everyone should thoroughly wash their hands|0 Yes I think thats the main thing poor relations made it easy to politicize thisAnother thing to look at is population tourist numbers and sizeI couldnt find the 2019 numbers and I know for both Hong Kong and Taiwan the visitors have decreased substantially however since they both dropped quite a bit it doesnt affect my point too muchTourists from mainland China in 2018Taiwan 27MSingapore 34MHong Kong 508MTaiwan population 2378M size 36K km2Singapore population 56M size 07K km2Hong Kong population 74M size 11K km2Not saying that Taiwan didnt do well but I would really think that Singapore and Hong Kong did a much better job at containing the virus than Taiwan and theyre not getting much attentionYou can see that Taiwan has 34 times as many people living there than the other 2 places but has less visitors from mainland China than the other 2 especially when compared to Hong Kong Taiwan is also a lot larger in size so the population density isnt as highHong Kong is right next to mainland China and has multiple ways to travel to and from mainland China not to mention its part of the same country so travel restrictions are easier So it having many more visitors isnt surprising as well as the many people that live in Hong Kong and work in mainland China and vice versaHowever I think Singapore and Hong Kong contained it with very different approaches Firstly as other people have mentioned Singapore has been extremely transparent since the beginning and had aggressive contact tracing and many other containment plans In short the Singaporean government excelled here and I would say it definitely outperformed the Hong Kong government by milesI live in Hong Kong and I think we also got lucky in the sense that similar to Taiwan there has been a huge part of the population that does not like mainland China so anything negative that came out from there spooked people Also with the past experience from SARS everyone started buying up and wearing masks starting from early January and by the time I came back from Europe in midlate January a significant portion of the population were already wearing them So even though the government was slow to close borders and make decisions the general population in Hong Kong already knew what to do in this situation not to mention some early spreads like the hotpot family who infected each other helped create an even stronger case of social distancing|1 But didnt the WHO say its just the flu I have to laugh now at how STUPID this all is becoming How can you sit on camera knowing what you said weeks ago contradicts to the very core what you are saying now|0 Well it depends what state you are in but 10 days is really not out of question even 14 Some examplesCalifornia 10 days12httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote11444District of Columbia 10 days13httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote12444Florida 3 days or the time it takes to complete required background checks whichever occurs later14httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote13444Hawaii 14 days15httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote14444Illinois 24 hours for long guns 72 hours for handguns Will become 72 hours for all firearms effective Jun 1 201916httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote15444Rhode Island 7 days17httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote16444Here is another example NY has minimum 3 max 30 days httpsnewyorkcbslocalcom20190729newyorkgunpurchasebackgroundcheckhttpsnewyorkcbslocalcom20190729newyorkgunpurchasebackgroundcheck|1 Wouldnt doubt it This situation has been contaminated from the beginning|1 Reading it as you go even if familiar with it gets you past the recommended time I posted a copy in my work bathroom and had the female coworker who had shared it when I first saw it post a copy in that one too|1 What if were just sent home because the whole city is quarantined Seems a little shortsighted People are going to be trying to get the fucking virus to qualify for benefits|1 The BBC are really good at supporting working from home at least from a developers point of view My team and many other teams already have WFH as part of our team culture before all of this happened and we havent yet been told to do it because of the virus We are constantly being updated and if they feel the need then it will happen I can see it happening when more cases are confirmed in the UK Some people in my team have decided to permanently WFH anyway and no one opposed the decision|1 I always have Think of all the stuff they put on them Stuff thats designed to stay put through the rain Rinsing does very little on perticides and crap like that Soap it up and rinse it off Fresh as a daisyAlso remember that the virus is knocked out by simple soap and water|1 What The new testing criteria requires hospital admission Wtf Got a source|0 Whenever satire is mentioned I have to remind people of Poes LawDont refuse to believe these people exist Thats what gave history leaders like Hitler Mussolini Stalin ect You must acknowledge they exist but we also need to focus on the fact that they can change and be redeemed|1 Society is 9 meals from anarchyThis has been true for years all it takes is something to push our economy over the ledge ant it will triggerTheres been a lot of research put into this notion look it up if you want the bejeezus scared out of ya|1 If obesity and vaping but not smoking as much as in the EU turn out to be significant comorbid factors in the mortality rate for those under 50 holy shit America|0 I am saying quarantine in lieu of killing them|0 In Italy they pressed charges against anyone who was jacking up the prices of masks or hand sanitizer on Amazon or eBay|1 This is scary Like Ebola scary Wtf|0 No|0 Over all it is spreading faster than the flu but I think it seems to be mainly spreading within families etc So basically you have to spend a lot of time with the individual to get infected rather than say sitting next to a sick person on a planeThey said that medium cases of COVID19 last 2 weeks and more sever cases 36 weeks From memory this seems about the same as the fluAsymptomatic cases appear with basically all illnessesAirborne I dont think has been confirmed Theyre also saying fecal transmission is possible etc Maybe or maybe not|0 Brilliant actually |1 I have tried multiple computers and I did it the same way I did it every other time before thisEdit thanks for the coordinates going to save them in my evidence folder|1 Are you joking Its not questionsble at all The US foreign affairs committee and other countries have written major reports on it Do you think political prisoners just go to a Disney Land type camp We know for a fact that falun gong practiconers have had organs removed You honestly think a country that has concentration campsgulags wouldnt kill people who speak out That is delusional thinkinghttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiOrganharvestingfromFalunGongpractitionersinChinawprovsfla1You are in some serious denial|1 Ahhh yes If you cant contain yourself we will contain you with other people who dont have it|1 Ive been coping with this realization having had a mixed response encouraging people to prepare most dismissed or shamed me very few listened and took action Its really dark to consider youre one of the cells that survives the others are not|0 Sorry to hear that Youre right you should get tested just in case though you shouldnt think of being infected Im very mad at the US for people not having the opportunity to test for free or as I understand most of people dont get tested at all How on earth wealthiest country on the planet cant provide that to its citizens They had months to prepareHowever this is still a very early phase of epidemic and the chances are very low so dont get desperate|0 I am lucky and have a very flexible work schedule and have been told to work from home But for a month I mean I feel like starting Monday I should just stay home I have young kids do I keep my kids home too The incubation period is just so long This weekend I am going out to buy a chest freezer so we can store vegetables and other essentials in bulk Hopefully we can weather it well enough|1 Please post a new thread with this information in as many places as possible|1 Thank you Im sorry to hear that and hope you both stay safe and that your mums chemotherapy goes well Gosh I couldnt imagine having to go into work at this time I will try to get as many supplies as I can so I dont have to go out again for some time I wish we were more prepared Thank you I will try|1 Nothing to do with WHO today CCP replaced four top officials in Hubei this is how they clean up their predecessors backlog|1 I hear they dont take down revenge porn|1 People should panic be angry It cant be helped that our political leaders are fucking idiots with little to no education outside of law or businessChina is treating it like a zombie apocalypse while the rest of the world sits on their hands as to not scare people or hurt sensitive Chinas feelings|0 Ill gladly accept a personalized message from him telling me to fuck off|0 In an adjusted analysis of compliant subjects masks as a group had protective efficacy in excess of 80 against clinical influenzalike illnessEdit Ive had some sleepless nights and my brain processed that headline this morning as doesnt Or maybe it was changedEither way the message should be masks are helpful but health workers need them more Dont hoard but obtain some use them where appropriate esp confined spaces like transit and its important for authorities to learn and teach the public how to safely reuse them For some time there wont be enough in the country for masks to be treated as oneuse disposables|1 The qom football player didnt die btw it was a mixup of somebody with the same name and the 38 year old is out of icu now|1 I just have a quick question the CDC is finally allowing testing that theyve been halting Does that mean were going to see an increase in the US reported cases in the coming days|1 Something that I would like to put out there in ensuring the new mod term is we have a team of people who are open to lots of different things We cant have this sub become one narrative like I have seen when many other subs large and localised become heavily moderated It must remain open and transparent like it has been since the beginning Having extra mods to clean the sub up a bit would be great by providing people with a more in depth rub down each day and useful links but there needs to be a balance|1 Canada might start thinking about a wall when Americans start crossing the border illegally and begging for the free healthcare theyve been conditioned to hate|0 In Holland the first batch of Dutch people who were trapped in Wuhan and were picked up also send home to do selfquarantin Even worse 60 Dutch people where released from the Westerdam the cruiseschip because no one was tested positive A few days later they found out an American woman who was on the ship did had covid and 2 of this group Dutchppl had contact with this woman Now they disappeared went home on their own no special flight or anything and the GGD sort of Dutch CDC is looking for them and they dont report their selves Dont know for other European countrys but here they are just as reckless as in the USA|0 Well thats because were more important|1 Both the exponential and the logistic regressions are based on the data currently selected for the aggregation The mechanism for logistic regression specifically is LevenbergMarquardt curve fitting where we simply browserified a Node library to support itWhen using the model offset mechanism the input data is trimmed from the beginning as it can throw off the regression However less data is not typically the answer to a better fit and admittedly the logistic regression in particular is rather unstable at the moment|1 The problem with this rests in small businesses These people need to be paid by the government How can 24 person businesses who have half their people out afford this especially confronted with possibility they too may be quarantined etc|0 I agree totally but theyve definitely included those symptoms in places Its ludicrous|1 Its ridiculous The US is in Trumps hands and in my opinion he is way to childish to handle a whole country and this coronasituation I dont think China will offer the US anything but the sad thing really is that Trump would do something like that|0 Yeah in this case I think its a fairly low level firmware update so they probably need access to hardware as well Also people who left the office weeks ago for New Year may not have brought company laptops with them Were now introducing laptops for any staff that dont already have one and instructing everyone to bring them home each night The hope is that if things get hairy here we can be cautious and tell people to stay home without massively disrupting business Otherwise you end up in a situation where you cant afford to send people home until your customers have done the same|1 Thank you Im in LA send masks lol|1 Common sense says that as well|1 Or play it|1 its a miracle|1 Thanks for speaking for many of us here I come here to get news about Coronavirus and want to find out more about it but it turns out most of the posts in the past week are all about shitting on TrumpTheres an Obama clone to the north of US right now and I dont see any outstanding example of leadership in a time of crisisAnd to be fair the most heavy hit states and cities right now are all liberal Washington California Oregon which is ironic Most of the morons here shitting on Trump prob were for open border and no immigration control not too long ago but now shitting on Trump for not acting fast enoughFunny thing is these morons were shitting on China until the past few weeks but will be voting in a communist BernieTheDog this coming November to turn our country into another China|0 I want to ping them all on the cheek with a short plastic ruler|1 Ooooof another good reporter|1 In the United States and I share the same feelings I got into quite a heated argument with a lot of my family the other day about the whole situation and they were saying that there was nothing we couldcouldve done because that just doesnt work here I have a lot of friends still planning on going on spring break vacations to Florida and worst of all I have a good amount of friends planning extra vacations after our University cancelled classes for the week after spring breakThe politicization of the situation is incredibly aggravating Ive been seeing a lot of people talking about this being a total media hoax and other crazy thingsJust have to keep a level head and react to everything with a logical response Shit might get crazy here soon|0 Not like this|0 OMEGA REAL THIS TIME GUYS IM BEING EXTRA SERIOUS|0 People replying to me and trying to play China off as a victim even if they didnt botch the numbers the fact is they tried to cover it up by arresting docs|1 This theory makes no fucking sense that this was a bio weapon from China and the fact it may impact ethnically Chinese people more would make it even less sense not moreThe theory goes that it was a stolen bioweapon that they were researching on how to counteract|0 nounclejesse your reminder arrives in 2 weeks on 20200327 053918Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20200327 053918Zreminderid68b85fbc4fdb4d18a30c0db296032175subredditCoronavirus Next time remember to use my default callsign kminder rCoronavirus 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ReminderhttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectRemindermessageyourmessage0A0Akminder20timeortimefromnow Your RemindershttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessagelistReminders21 QuestionshttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectFeedback2120Reminder20from20nounclejesse|1 Really Thats great I just naturally assumed that having a prior rather severe respiratory illness i might be even more susceptible to the worst case scenario if i were to catch Corona This is good news I will check it out Thanks a ton|1 Ignore your GPCall 111 again or the hospital directly and ask for instructions and helpThere are many gps these days not for for the job frankly Had one too many fuck up in the last decade to have much faith in them anymore and byfuck up I mean proper fuck up and serious risk to health fuck up|0 They are now But they only kicked into gear at around the time of first death Which mean there was plenty of infected for 2 weeks without Italys knowledge Italy is certainly more transparent than any other EU nation but places like Singapore kicked into gear long before first death in fact no one died there yet|0 My mom has a stroke three weeks ago and my dad had a fall last week Im actually grateful now because theyre already home on the mend and forced to self quarantine Im just hoping their general health care needs are met like physical therapy and specialist exams|1 Your argument is very weak Your vision is short sighted and narrow Im disappointed in the way you think|0 The infections in Italy are still a tiny percentage of the population Minuscule I wish people understood stats instead of just viewing raw numbers out of context|1 In theory yes its always possible to be infected by more than one virus or bacteria at once|0 when its a state of emeregency the govt has massive powers to cut red tapeif shit hits the fan you can except things like board certifications regulations and medical lawsuits to be slashed left and right|0 Thats a really dark place to go when you hear the news that a bunch of people will probably die so you definitely deserve those downvotes but technically correct If this gets really bad the real estate bubble will probably pop in the hardest hit areas 10 or higher mortality in the 70 age group would make a big impact on the availability of largermore expensive homes which will probably be bought up and redeveloped as townhouses|0 Yeah but mom that starts with you actually being ya know aliveMy words to my mother And of course shes still just like Meh what can you do|1 Too bad were gonna need a million of them|0 Thanks for posting this sub|1 Youre defending them by saying they didnt do anything early out of misplaced optimismFuck thatI dont care if pointing out how fucked they are is a common take Im not trying to earn internet novelty points for hot takes on China|0 Sorry I dont know much about how this all works and dont understand all the terminology Im not a native speaker which also doesnt help but trying to learn something usefulIn subgroup analysis protective effects were seen in those receiving daily or weekly vitamin D without additional bolus doses adjusted odds ratio 081 072 to 091 but not in those receiving one or more bolus doses adjusted odds ratio 097 086 to 110 P for interaction005What is a bolus dosis A pill supplementWhat is an additional bolus dosis Additional to what If they were not given pills what does it mean that they received daily or weekly vitamin D Were they given some specific vitamin D rich food or requested to sit in the sun once a week for a few hoursI know its a meta analysis but Im trying to understand the conclusions here Its the conclusion that the pills are totally useless Or that taking more of them than the daily need 5 micrograms afaik is useless Or that the usefulness of the pills ends on the daily need level but vitamin D from other sources can help also if its above that level|1 Well they believe theyre Christians in fact they believe theyre the only true Christians So obviously theres different ways to interpret things which was the point of my comment|1 Hospitals and doctors dont order masks and respirators from Home Depot etc Why are consumers being blamed for the shortage of PPE when the government and healthcare system is the one that is caught unprepared They should have asked the factories back in January to ramp up production|0 You say those numbers like theyre shockingly high Influenza kills tens of thousands of Americans every year|0 this happened in Thailand as well and made the news|1 Money helps a lot but theres also no vaccine for this virus and all the money in the world doesnt change that Hed have the best chance out of all the 70 year old obese men in the world but at the end of the day hes still a 70 year old obese man That puts him firmly in the higher risk categories|1 You want 330 million tested|1 It does sound crazy but heres the thing China was literally locking people inside their buildings and then intercepting anyone on the streets and checking their temps If they had an elevated temp they got sent into mandatory quarantine immediately You cant say no They did not fuck around That kind of heavy handed enforcement would not fly here in the states It doesnt matter if you believe me or noteven we are able to flatten the curve we are about to be overwhelmed with an unmitigated disaster If it all passes fine Ill accept that youre right and Im an idiot for crying wolf That would be great actually But the reality likely points to a very dire situation Even if you think were all a bunch of alarmist idiots surely you have loved onesfamily that you want to keep safe|1 well when it was just a flu they seemed to be going overboard and we thought it funny now seeing that our own government to this day has done absolutely fuck all nothing to prevent an outbreak here chinas response doesnt seem so bad south korea is a better model for how they are handling it and they are still getting hammer hand over fist only people left laughing are the mainstream media watching its still just a flu bro crowd booking their flights to some god forsaken major city tourist trap|0 If anyone thinks the WH would admit to a positive test they are smoking some kind of something lolJust like the WH doctors health review|1 The gov has already banned all wildlife trade for now I hope they legislate this temporary ban as a longterm law after this outbreak Now people really want stop wildlife trade here in China bc of this virus disaster They heavily criticize the traders and also the buyers on weibo right nowsourcehttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworldasiapacificchinabanswildanimaltradeuntilcoronavirusepidemiceliminated202001260e05a964401711ea971f4ce4f94494b4storyhtml|0 Im in South Korea at the moment Definitely will do |1 A flu that kills 23 who catch it|0 Jokes now get downvoted huh|1 I hear you my friend Best of luck to you and family and everyone affected Im sure the will be hundreds of millions of folks across the world in the same situation|1 The same mistakes we are doing today were done back then Its crazy The San Jose Health authorities recommended the Sharks not play but the declines and still are having games|0 The young Iranians with white hair wrinkled skin and grey beards|1 Six week forecast Would like to see the reasoning behind that forecast That seems wildly optimistic|1 The number in China are not so important here but the numbers in other countries because if say 500 people are quarantined for 14 days and 25 are still in the region of 1428 days this means on average 125 are getting out and may still be getting the disease This feels a lot more comforting The bit that worries me more is how many people dont go into quarantine and remain undiscovered they are likely the far greater number here like the exchanged prisoner from Thailand who comes from a prison where no case of the virus has been reported|0 How does it not make sense lol China does business all over the world and theres a thing called airplanes|0 If these numbers are correct in the US We have 7 death rate 125 with illness and 9 died and 8 recovered|0 Yes youre right It doesnt make much of a difference in virus spread but it does make people feel a lot better I think we should be doing the same personally|1 Central MarylandSo Maryland went from no confirmed cases to 20 in about a week My local Safeway started putting toilet paper and paper towels in the center parts of aisles and front of store Surprisingly things arent too bare YET Definitely getting there though Many people are brushing this off so I now know others dont care if the elderly or already sick die Selfish|0 If your county or state has declared a state of emergency give your mortgage company a call to request relief I dont have the list of banks that have already announced they will be giving relief off the top of my head Also if you live in Texas see Texas Workforce Commission httpstwctexasgovnewsunemploymentnews for unemployment benefits|1 Patience we have a histort of being unprepared and then mobilizing like crazy to fight The time will come|0 Yes if you make sure you have a proper seal|1 They sit in a warehouseThe US is short of test kits because they want to be Its keeping their number of confirmed cases nice and low for the headlines|1 Youre an idiot You can send bitcoin via a text message or a ham radio Also Starlink is already in the sky Theres no chance of internet going out And even if the internet did go out Bitcoin would work better than your bank who would be completely fucked The Bitcoin community is a plucky bunch of tech nerds If the world goes to shit Bitcoin will be the last thing to fail|0 This is what Bernie was just arguing about with Biden on the Sunday debate I guess Bernie was against the auto bailout and Biden supported it|0 Huh Fair enough But the CEO leaving with no explanation and being replaced by a founder of the company is true httpswwwfiercebiotechcombiotechwasitsomethinghesaidbiotechceowhometpresidenttrumpmonthexitswithoutawordhttpswwwfiercebiotechcombiotechwasitsomethinghesaidbiotechceowhometpresidenttrumpmonthexitswithoutaword Suspicious for sure and its possible CureVac was pressured to deny the allegation by the US or else they wouldnt buy the vaccine But maybe I should just take off my tin foil hat|0 Awesome I am so glad she is ok and feels better soon She had a note from her dr to the emergency dr that said possible case and was rushed|1 Alright well last week you all were saying watch out this week is when it will really spread And now its watch out next week is when it will really spreadSo when is it going to spread Dont get me wrong i hate the Chinese government as much as the next freedom loving guy but when it comes to handling international infectious diseases dont you think the experts are much better educated then you or me or anyone on this subreddit Its just another form of dont trust doctors they lie about vaccines|1 NC but I live one mile from VA an hour from TN and WV Im just posting that my family has started isolation from everyone There isnt any cases at least in my county havent looked in VA yet but my mom has said no traveling and stuff I cant tell if its smart or just her being hysterical My family barely ever goes out and I can see her telling us not to attend events like my brothers plans to go to a concert But I cant even see my friend for his 21st birthday which he was just going to have a bonfire and drink with a few work friends It honestly feels like a waiting game and a joke almost One of my brothers was telling me someone said someone in Elkin Yadkin county has the virus But when I looked into it there was no news Then you have dont wear masks its not that big of an issue and its an issue and weak masks|1 Yea that breathing problem really making it difficult for them to speak |0 Yes and my comment had nothing to do with that the poster I replied to said there were no cases in hot countries|1 If course Its always the baby and the old drunk|0 Youre definitely a fake news subscriber|0 Both of my parents are medical professionals in Sarasotathis makes me feel horrible|0 I am so fucking sick of this|0 Some talk but most are still waiting for it to get worse or better|0 Dont spread misinformation Its as detrimental as the virus|1 Ill pass|0 Its called private Hes paying out of pocket not qualifying as an australian citizen fir healthcare of because hes a celebrity Has nothing to do with their universal healthcare system Holy fuck these brains in this post This is as stupid as saying a restaurant diner is getting preferential treatment for food over someone with food stamps Jesus fuck|0 laughs in Singaporean|1 To some freedom is only measured in how easy it is to buy weapons|1 Yea our test game is weak af|0 This shit better not turn into another common cold with a bajillion different mutations|0 Or the flu epidemic isnt really the flu because people dont get tested for it or they are just fucking lying about all of it|0 An article from 2016 said that 39 of Tory MPs were landlords It might be a higher percentage now Think a rent freeze is pretty unlikely unfortunately|1 How do you determine panic from a simple patient report I bet its projection|0 You could almost say Butt hurt|0 American here My father is a grocery store manager in Western North Carolina There are only a few cases single digits in our part of the country and his store is taking this issue very seriously Theyve cancelled all schedules meetings and have switched to conference calls over the phone He has been instructed to brief all of his employees over how to protect themselves from the virus Hand sanitizing wipes must be used on the clockin computer each time it is used Employees may wear gloves if they wish and theyre provided hand sanitizer at their registers|1 American Here I feel like people were blowing me off 12 months ago then 23 weeks ago they started arguing with me saying I was wrong its no worse than the flu The last 3 days they were almost like angry with me Like somehow I caused this because I was talking about it Whatever I was preparing the whole time |0 Older person here and completely agree This is on all of us But its the young that are going suffer the most At least the teenage protestors are trying to sound the alarm|0 Irrelevant to my point that China lies and it is lying to everyone|0 the shape of the peak matters sharper worse higher total ratemore stress on medical services etc|0 If you are gonna buy something use a credit card if there is a reader That way you dont have to hand us anything and we dont have to hand you anything Obviously this wont work in all situationsAlso skip the receipt if you can Minimize contact with people in this time|0 Imagine the US government announcing that you can only buy certain predefined food packages|1 Yes I was so frustrated for so long I kept calling news media outlets and my government officials and trying to get them to wake up about the risks and to tell people none of them would They waited until the danger was literally knocking at the door and they couldnt keep it quiet one day longer I despise them for that People should have had the whole month I did to mentally and physically prepare Now people have to risk infection as they prepare and since its on their doorstep its going to be harder for them to accept mentally than it was for me I had a whole month of freaking out before I feel normalish now I cant even begin to fathom how anyone else who just learned about this would feel now and I think thats why well see so much denial People just cant fathom how bad it is so they assume the media is fear mongering When in reality the media is very much NOT fear mongering|0 Maybe Developing nations are in general more polluted sub par sanitation service healthcare services are not as good lower number of acute care beds and so on And they generally have higher rates of smokers|0 Wales has a population of 3 million to put this in perspective I hope this aint true|1 Check out the FAQ at rwallstreetbetsJk just buy index funds with low fees|0 Ok sorry I wasnt quite clear what I meant Yes antivirals play a very important role but the way I understand it some places were giving antivirals to the point of the virus being lowered to subclinical levels The immune system made a minimum immune response if any So the person tests negative not due to a successful immune response but due to the viral replication stoppingThen when they were declared negative because we dont do deep lung tests where the virus was only UR and sputum tests and let go the virus began to replicate again causing a positive test within 2 weeksThink like HIV treatment You cant get rid of HIV but taking the right antivirs at the right time you can keep the virus near undetectable But if the person with HIV stops taking them the virus starts up againEDIT typo|1 I wish people would stop claiming this has anything to do with ability to pay You cant order the test they wont do it no matter what you pay|1 Some people at my work place have been making fun of anyone who talks about it One guy bloated that he just came back from Disney World and that its just the flu I think our government is to blame for passing on this attitude|0 I would look into it now if u can maybe talk to a lawyer since a lot of food pantries are closing and already overwhelmed shelters wont have their usual pool of volunteers as well|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 You tell me Im immunocompromised I think flubacterial infection gives me myocarditis 20 of infections 4x of these so far no diagnosis yetBut yeah urabus why do you panic IT AFFECTS ONLY ELDERLY|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 give me the bullet doc it fulfills the quarantine|1 Condition in Guangzhou isnt that bad Your analogy would be more like if she leaves Wuhan then board the Diamond Princess|1 Yeah The hoarding only began this past week when our countrys leader went from saying The flu kills 37000 Americans annually and the economy doesnt collapse to declaring a national state of emergency So acknowledging reality sort of threw people into a panic|0 I think they did everything they can to safe him but he did die I think that shows what a disaster this is atm for italy and how dangerous for every body|0 Really This hasnt been my experience if I ever have an issue Im immediately refunded no questions asked|0 Im concerned about the shortages of PPE that is requiring staff to wear their PPE all day In an ideal world PPE is put on before entering an isolation room and removed upon leaving Now theyre wearing the same PPE gear for their entire shift carrying the virus from patient to patient and spreading it around the hospital And they clearly dont have enough isolation rooms So Im not surprised staff are catching it in high numbers Youd have to assume that every surface and object in the hospital is contaminated at this point Same problem exists for any government or medical staff interacting with multiple possible cases a day It doesnt look like theyre changing gloves mask gowns between patients I dont begrudge them their efforts to protect themselves but its inevitably contributing to spread|0 Til has a 100 death rate|0 You feel like this because it is exactly what is happening we all feel like this in our respective countries Spain is a joke aswell|1 Why hide the county Arent we already doing that enough as a nation|0 I got me a traditional chinese spearaxe and a Japanese samurai sword lol Both decorativeNot sure Im capable of going full Kill Bill|1 Ultimative we will suffer because our host dies But our host aka earth is the ultimate loose Earth will end up like Mars a dusty no life supporting rock We are living way over what earth can substain on any and all corners specially naturallyAnd the worst thing is we actively cut the support from earth to sustain usWe are Literarily like terminal cancer but worseCancer kills the host with a small amount of tissueWe are roughly like 80 covering skin and internal cancer to our hostLike the years 01500 were chance 12 and up 1600 to date was late end stage cancer and we slowly reach terminal area|0 if it turns out the treatment a is harming peopleOn the plus side they arent getting COVID19On the downside its because their heads are exploding|0 The few doctor who do it in the USA arent disclosing their prices and theres very limited information concerning how much insurers pay so Im wondering where you get your information that its more expensive in the US Are you just spouting off your opinion And its not like you can compare apples to apples because like I said the German doctors particular treatment isnt fully disclosed Any other doctors who arent specifically associated with the German doctor may not even be doing the same treatment So it may not matter to you that its not FDA approved but it does matter in the way that things can be compared Like every liberal you let emotions rule your judgement instead of facts What proof do you have that its cheaper in other places than the US|0 You fundamentally misunderstand modern neoliberal capitalist logic having extras of these things sit around is a waste of money Illinois has tens of thousands more hospital beds than it needs For the past few years every business and trade publication has been shouting from the rooftops that Illinois needs to cut this excess capacity as fast as possible in order to boost revenue In a capitalist society corporatized hospital chains are run as lean as possible to maximize profits this is the healthcare system you are dealing with|0 The normalcy bias is so strong We are at the doorstep of a global recession and I still hear just the flu daily I think we have ten days max to start seriously preparing the cats out the bag and will be facing an Italian level outbreak in next two weeks|0 TranslationSix new coronavirus infections in BelgiumSix new coronavirus infections have been reported in our country with a total of eight known covid 19 patients in Belgium Maggie De Block Open VLD Minister of Health announced this All new patients returned from northern Italy involving five people from Flanders and one from BrusselsThe FPS Public Health reports every day at 10 am how many new covid19 patients there are From that communication it appears that there are six new infections in our country so far the counter is at eight infections with the first patient already cured The new infections in our country coincide with the end of the crocus holiday says FPS Health As a result of the return from abroad there was an increase in the number of tests for people with suspicious symptoms Last night and this morning a total of 140 tests were conducted in the KU Leuven reference laboratory six of which were positiveNorthItalyThe patients have all returned from a holiday or business trip from northern Italy a region where the virus is widespread says virologist Marc Van Ranst to De Standaard Three of them come from the same family says De Block Most of them are not very ill either but I still ask to respect the privacy of those people and not to hunt them Some are at home others are in the hospital There is followup anyway Most of them have spontaneously reported to the hospital because they come from the risk area and have proactively requested a test says De Block Hundreds of tests have been done it makes sense somewhere that there are six positive casesSuccessionThe Flemish patients are monitored by doctors from the Care and Health Agency in Brussels the Joint Community Committee follows the patient Both administrations also track the contacts that patients have had since their return to Belgium so that other people can also be tested if necessaryA first infection in Belgium came from a man who was escorted back from Wuhan in China A second infection was reported on Saturday Monday came a message that a third patient had been noticed It seems that a Brussels person tested positive for the new corona virus Walloon Health Minister Christie Morreale told Bel RTL on Monday morning The patient has been in Milan in recent days and is at home in quarantinePeople who think they may be infected are asked to contact their family doctor by phone before going to a waiting room or hospital This is to prevent other people from becoming infectedAnyone who has questions can go to the call center with the number 0800 14 68 9 or the government website|1 America makes Australia look like South Korea|1 Yeah its fudged here in WA I live here|1 Do you have a source for that Most papers say 314 except for the one case in china where it went up to 20 days or something and the media ran with that number|1 my family friend works for a representative for a car company in chinahe hasnt had any work for about a week now|1 This is a night for big terrible numbers|0 Hes like the mayor from Jaws|1 The problem with this as someone pointed out to me the other day is that its possible to have the flu and coronavirus at the same time So even if you do have the flu it doesnt rule out also having coronavirus Maybe unlikely but possible|0 I was starting to get overwhelmed Last night i started hyperventilating but was able to calm down|1 Its winning|1 Thats what I thought but I havent heard anything about it recently so I wasnt sure if something had changed |0 Im pretty sure antimask law was for the protesters before the covid19 outbreakI get it you hate your government you hate ccp But do stick to factsIn the end your government worked however you hate it|0 Loved the ending of this|1 Are you sure that you linked correctly Says page not found while it normally says This user has deleted their account Or did some reddit admin delete his account|1 Then again most people you know are young fit and healthy Same with everyone I know We just plan to avoid the sick and elderly|0 weve gotta convince pence the virus makes people gayMother I think Ive got the fake cough fake cough covid19|0 Ill play devils advocate for a moment People have been forced into situations where theyre suddenly homeschooling and telecommuting That means more meals eaten at home and more grocery purchasesAlso some people are shopping for elderly parents who dont want to get sick There are definitely hoarders but I think the sudden change in life situations is partly responsible for empty shelves|0 People who are praising KoreaTaiwan model are severely misinformed Their methods are successful only partially due to testing Theres also the other half that they literally took from Chinas handbook1 tracking literally everyone using technology including using drones their GPS location data on phone apps and CCTVs to achieve a high degree of monitoring and backtracking movements 2 forcing people to quarantine through physical force The problem with our system is that we simply do not have the capacity to accomplish such a high degree of monitoring especially with a far far larger landmass to cover and much much fewer enforcers The lack of testing kits is absolutely an issue but the bottleneck remains at our authoritys ability to crackdown effectively So even if we were to get that many test kits its still unlikely that well be able to contain the virusSorry to be a downer but im just trying to point out a pragmatic issue that were about to faceHeres why our government is doing the best it can One it is looking out for society as a whole rather than individualist interest balancing economic sacrifices and human costs Two it is establishing a lockdown one step at a time instead of everything together increasing effectiveness of enforcers Three it is telling people to remain rational and addressing one problem at a time IMO it is keeping a cool head at the moment and I have some faith that there are contingencies in place should all hell break loose|1 alright|1 Assolutamente si spero di non averne bisogno e che tutto si risolva bene Altrimenti sarei il Patient 1 di questo Subreddit Wonderful|1 I just moved to California and was worried too My mom saidI am glad you are in California because the state health system is much better than the national health system The rest of the country has 1 facility to test for the virus and California just opened 8 The governor is honest and competent completely opposite of Trump and California on its own is the 5th largest economy in the world so it has excellent resourcesBecause fires and earthquakes happen often here I would imagine this state is more prepared for disastertype situations too|1 Our species is doomedThe US is While other countries have responded with varying degrees of effectiveness the general climate seems to be that of a disposition to help contain and overcome this The US seems to be exclusively concerned in catering to the interests of a few|1 inside the covid medic tent might be the best place to not infect uninfected people|1 Heres the link from Bloomberg Early China stats were something like half of the first 170 deaths in Wuhan had hypertension The tricky part is they likely had other underlying health conditions so it would be a mistake to assume hypertension itself in a vacuum is a major factor Ill try and find the ACE inhibitor article as well That was a scientific paper and not a news article Going off memory there was a hypothesis that ACE inhibitors can enhance the cytokine storm or however you spell itIm a healthy 50 year old with no bad habits and good diet but I cant lie and say Im not worried for my own safety given my medical history with hypertensionhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200309topvirusdoctorsayshighbloodpressureismajordeathriskhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200309topvirusdoctorsayshighbloodpressureismajordeathrisk|1 368 DEAD In 1 DAY|0 I have a nurse friend who has posted 3 different postings for healthcare workers in WA in the last 2 days|1 Disney theme parks just closed amid scares |0 Yeah Honestly I think anything we do is just a platitude that will make people feel better about things Unless we are willing to literally shut down everything for a month I dont think we can stop transmission Slow Sure Stop Not a chanceMy kids daycare just sent out a notice that any child found with a fever will be asked to stay home for 48 hours instead of only 24 Like thats gonna do anything|1 Depends what hes using but most antibacterial chemicals are effective against viruses|1 Oh I think most people who have taken note of the severity of this outbreak see that but I think the masses especially in America right now are completely naive to the situation On another note the Shanghai stock exchange is down almost 3 today and the US market had a terrible day on Friday Im no wall street broker but I can gurentee you next week the market is going to begin feeling the impact of this virus and that will be what tunes more people in|0 Do you sort by new Ive seen some pretty crazy stuff on here when sorting by new which quickly gets deleted by the mods And some obviously trolling stuff Like IMPORTANT WARNING STAY INSIDE YOUR HOUSES DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSES IT IS CONFIRMED THE VIRUS SPREADS BY FARTS no joke|1 This is good information I live in a cold state so Ive been pretty concerned but have stocked up on nonperishables foods also already gotten flu shot awhile back|0 I agree as Said in This picture sheep minded people they all go with the flow Just stupid|0 Cancelled a job interview because they wanted to meet in a busy public meeting area I feel a little guiltybut also my health|0 This is some Florida man kinda shit|0 Dont know why yall are stuck on N95 when theres N99 and N100 too lol|1 The critical cases are those that require immediate medical intervention to survive as I understand the classification Even with intervention the large case study out of Wuhan reported a 49 fatality rate of critical cases Its unknown the quality of care being provided at the epicenter but its probably way less than normal due to the healthcare system being overwhelmed This preprinthttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021720024018v1 case study from Shenzhen released today shows similar percentages related to severity but with zero deaths recorded Since theres a much smaller number of cases in Shenzhen it would seem to support the notion that most in Wuhan are dieing due to lack of proper care ie the hospitals are completely overwhelmed and unable to give proper care to all critical patients|1 If a single nuclear reactor out of the 450 on the planet is neglected and not continually fed with cold water keep in mind Pakistan has 5 then the Earth could become inhospitable for humans Not a likely scenario at this point but the chance is not literally 0 if a large enough economic collapse happens in certain countries|0 And thats only confirmed cases Im sure thats going to double pretty quickly once theres more testing|1 Thanks this is awesome|1 So if we assume they are already releasing the relevant articles based on what they deem relevant then why do they need to instead release all articles base on what someone is arbitrarily deeming relevantIf I follow the logic of the petition then any lifesaving intellectual property should be public knowledge If that were the case then I would be worried that only altruistic people would make lifesaving discoveries in the future However I think sometimes greedy assholes can do a better job of making lifesaving discoveriesCan you explain why you want to target one company instead of working toward a law that would cover all lifesaving discoveries|0 An honorable person would just resign and say its best left in better hands Instead we have a guy who is going to continue doing nothing and probably go golfing again this weekend|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Celebrities come into contact with LOTS of people Knowing if theyre infected is very useful info for the thousands of people they come into contact with so they can take extra precautionsCritically ill patients are already obviously sick Dont need a test to know that you should be careful if in contact with them regardless of which disease it is And since theres no covid19 cure testing for it does nothing for their treatment|0 How many more deaths I didnt say this is the flu I said a big portion of the casualties would have died of the flu as well|0 I have been closely following the corona virus since the first outbreak in China I have heard a lot of people say its not as bad as the flu false it is far more deadly and inject politics from both sides into it Let me tell you what I am 99 confident is happening in the USA We are doing very limited testing and letting the virus spread here This sounds terrible but may be the best possible thing we can do Other countries that have far more control over their people are implementing mass testing and quarantine to try to control the virus and losing the battle These countries are taking massive economic hits for their failing efforts I believe we are allowing our infection levels to get to a high enough level before real mass testing to begins to make mass quarantine impractical Yes many people will die Medical and supply chains will be overwhelmed But these same things are happening in countries that are trying to stop the virus as well so what is the point of dragging it out over a long period of time that could lead to starvation and societal breakdowns causing even more deaths What we are doing is probably the best possible thing we could do I recommend that if you have elderly or people with compromised immune systems that you care for you should quarantine them now to prevent them from being infected until there is a vaccine or the epidemic runs its course Provide them with all the food and supplies they need to survive the next 3 months and if able designate someone to stay with and help care for them I know this all sounds extreme but do your research see what hasis happening in china South Korea Italy and Iran right now Also we have an election coming up in our country that is a deeply divided powder keg ready to blow A president putting a country under martial law that would be required to make quarantine work and interrupting an election would likely be the spark that lights the fuse to civil war Combine that with the fact that we have done fewer than 500 official tests less than any other country effected by the virus and that the CDC that has been reporting the number of tests done since the beginning of this is no longer reporting the number of tests done as of yesterday There have been multiple cases reported that had all the markers of COVID 19 including travel to highly infected regions of the world that the cdc has refused to test We have multiple cases on the west coast with no known origin and the government is not even recommending people not travel to or from those areas even though it is known that the virus is spreading there I suspect within the next 5 to 10 days there will be mass testing that shows the virus is literally everywhere in the country with infection rates high enough that everyone will be in agreement that there is no point in trying to stop the spread This may seem like a very inhumane thing to do and many may be very angry that their government is lying to the This is in fact the most humane thing that can be done in this situation If the government was to just tell us what they are doing many people would raid all the grocery storespharmacies and selfquarantine resulting in food and medicine shortages and riots that again would cause far more deaths Feel free to call me a conspiracy theorist whack job all you want but please have evidence to dispute my theory|0 Hey now red herring doesnt work on me We were talking about whether Zycam actually had a MOA based on zinc not whether it was the most economically efficient way to purchase zinc And it does as you see A simple TIL will suffice I feel smug just typing this but really thing Redditors need to learn when to just say TIL|1 Now that dish doesnt seem appetizing to me but fwiw urine is sterile and turns to ammonia when let to sit for a while So this dish could be seen as a legit if somewhat desperate from a westerners POV way to keep eggs edible|0 Thats even better|1 Sure thing take your vitamins and be safe|1 You are correct The vast number of people posting in these threads have no idea how healthcare works in america|0 Just FYI I read elsewhere that one reason the SKorea numbers are so low is that their population overall is quite young|0 Dude has hundreds billion of dollars and he cant pay his employees sick leave|0 What is wrong with that one|0 Just name and shame If I find out a business in my area isnt playing fair with this then I will for sure never darken their door again|0 Iran announced its first 2 cases a few hours before it announced its first 2 deathsI feel like Iran has been hiding its numbers It got out of control and they have been trying to catch up to the truth With what its sharing Reports a few days ago were actually over 200 deadEgypt will possibly go through something similar They are exporting a lot of cases and reports are coming that they have lost control|1 These threads are like that old Kanbul Spy game and we all just keep ending up in the tunnel getting stabbed and robbed by the mystery thiefx200BWe are life and life will find a way Just remember that some financial bailouts you will start to see and disagree with are designed to protect crux jobs to avoid collapse We are bout to gut the military defense industry kids and health care reform is just called reality now The sky is actually already bluer and the air already fresher Everything is about to change and honestly much of it will bring better more promising reemergence and sooner than you think A lot of our morally corrupt dogma and sacred cows are about to go down the mine shaft|1 I disagree that its the wrong way to frame Young people dont believe the risk of traumatic injury but do have loved ones who are vulnerable|0 Retail stores dont care about their employees They dont even care about their customers As long as theres a quick buck to be made from all the panic buying the store will remain open Even if it means putting the health of their employees their employees familys and their customers at risk|0 Im guessing theyre reporting no cases in Dallas simply because they dont have the tests Do you think its here already I have the ability to work from home as soon as I want not sure when I should take my employer up on the offer|0 You are right that it is coming from animals but not all animals are the same Most viruses are specific to the kind of animal they are from So many human diseases wont affect a pet Not so with bacterial infections though You can totally get the shits from your dogs we see this every week But with the corona virus there are so far no known faces with pets getting sick and actively spreading the disease|0 There has been a significant amount of valuable information|1 The NPCs get regular reprogramming they dont even know what theyre outraged about anymore at this point|0 Be careful deep woods with bear spray and black bears Bear spray has inconsistent results with black bear compared to grizzly Id always make sure to have a strong stick Actually my favorite thing to do is bring a collapsible umbrella in black bear country Twice Ive had an encounter and I just extended that umbrella above my head and the bears went like WTF and dipped immediately It makes you look massive and the collapsible ones arent to much weight I have a Shockwave I carry in deep woods anyways but never even had to pull it out much less shoot it|1 I was a general manager for a well known taco chain for a couple years Even I the most managery manager on site wasnt allowed to miss work No sick pay call in and get fired I worked with a broken hand without being able to wear the brace at work I worked with pneumonia because if I didnt corporate would swoop in and I wouldnt have a job I would have probably never gotten pneumonia if Id been able to take a couple days off when I first got sick The industry makes it impossible to take a day off if your sick I will say I always sent sick nonsalaried employees home and my district coach encouraged the same but it wasnt strictly followed No matter what someone was screwed|0 Now if only we would install term limits wed be better off|1 Dont freak out Just cancelWhatever it is youre traveling for is it worth thisThe US needs to start acting like its in a pandemic situation regardless of the messaging of the government|1 No shit in America we are still debating if this is the flu or not with testing and truth real decisions can be made whether or not to get up for work|0 Even when what Im saying is not in anyway political Its a prepping post ffs And they should at least provide a platform for people to verify Rather than just removing whatever post that dont meet their arbitrary standards Like their rules are so vague|0 Antibody testing seems to be the golden ticket that noone is talking about Implemented enmass these test would allow us to establish who can get back to work be productive and help protect the vulnerableQuite clearly testing in general is what is needed|1 My school had over 2000 students and over 100 teachers and 100 staff in Melbournes west it wasnt a large school and we were way over capacity 1 sick kid or staff member could infect all of those people Keeping schools open does the exact opposite of what he said and it just looks like a huge economic cash grab from the government Not cool Scomo not cool|0 i got ur weirdly long guandao right here |0 Either you and your friends are very lucky in your neighborhood or my opinion is biased because I live in the poorest city of Limburg and Limburg is the poorest province of Flanders while everyone here is driving a BMW Audi or Mercedes is also an important factorNot saying Im working without the correct contract because I am But I can guarantee you that a lot of people working in bars and restaurants here work a lot of time without contract Hell even in bike repair shops or car repair shops cleaning personnel|1 Hopefully everyone who is being quarantined are doing that And if they live with other family members hopefully they also quarantine themselves and order food and supplies to be delivered to them|1 Nah we just test 100 for real numbers|0 It should help newscasters better relate to their audiences and vice versa This can help calm panic for the people that watch the TV to feel like theyre in the same boat Its a leveling of the playing field|1 Thank you very much for this Im a 20 years old boy who works out often and doesnt have any condition so im not in danger but im still VERY anxious about this virus it breaks my hearth that those people have to suffer Do you think that it will be contained in the USEurope based on this prospective im really worried that it would happen it literally terrifies me Thank you again and sorry for my english its not my native language|0 Quinine probably works but youd have to drink a ridiculous amount of tonic|0 More like the bend over and unclench while moaning loudly so it will be over quicker plan|1 Jesus Christ Americans and British are absolutely clueless|0 Were you able to actually get tested for it or are you just assuming thats what it is There are lots of sick people around me right now but nobody is testing|0 UVC light is effective but its expensive and not very available due to restrictions because it is too dangerous for the average consumer to use|0 1000 agree I truly appreciate their transparency At the moment its all we really have to see what is potentially headed our way in the US|1 Shouldnt we see increased infection and mortality in new borns|0 Your lack of knowledge in data fitting and predictive modelling is So explain to me why Ebola growth curve also followed closely the projectin Just to give you a couple of hundreds of peer reviewed data fitting journal papers for Ebola LinkhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6590876po125000another paperhttpswwwnaturecomarticlessrep15818figures2All typical epidemic have that characteristic|1 Yeah all the experts are here on Reddit if only they worked for the government|1 Id like to know your plan since everyone else is so dumb|0 Well he just started this business few weeks ago He doesnt have to pay taxes right away|1 AS SOMEONE whose immune compromised due to being paralyzed from a spinal cord injury I am not having a good time|0 Yeah those are extremely nutrient and calorically dense|1 Every state will more than likely have cases but there are things we can do to protect ourselves Practice good physical hygiene wear a mask in public if possible and do your best to practice social distancing Stock up on essentials and food if you need to|1 You spelled Clinton wrong|0 Im not sure why they have guns out like that or anything but I do know they have some very unsafe tactics Muzzle flashing each other and everything|1 Hope the people who spend money on your side hobby are still going to have jobs and money themselves Also there are probably other people in a situation similar to yours so youll have more competition than normal And if your hobby provides anything less than a need suddenly the market value will plummetif you can find patrons at allEasy to see this spiral out of control Relying on capitalism when the government needs to shutter businesses can be a problem|1 Sorry to hear that shittydiks So many lives are being upended Congrats though|1 Yes there is a source And yes I am far too lazy to go back through days of news to find it|1 I hope youre a chemist and know the actual solution the end amounts too And vinegar itself does kill viruses bacteria mold and fungus The acidity is what damages the cellular membrane allowing the alcohol to do the rest So in the end you have in the solution is more than enough The point here is to use less at Max benefits But what the heck do I know Spouse is a chemist and Im just a microbiologist We know nothing|1 Its going to be ugly for a while How ugly and for how long is anyones guess but you cant have an interconnected interdependent global economy and expect problems to stay over there especially when they reach this scaleWill society collapse I would be surprised if it did Will we have to adjust the way we live to accommodate shortages and financial hardship Almost certainly at least for a while|0 Ugh thats tough My family definitely is taking it less seriously than I am but theyre at least stocking up on food and because my mom is immune compromised theyre trying to stay home more often etc I wish there was a more coherent message coming from the White House and matching up with doctors messages We were given plenty of time to prepare for this months ago its sad we are still seeming to be playing catch up|1 And yet its happening right now Working on an elective surgery right now The hospital is shutting down elective surgeries starting tomorrow and the surgeon Im working with right now just asked what are they calling elective vs emergency Trying to figure out how to get around the stoppage|0 What do you mean Can you share any proof symbols|1 It looks like 20 will have to die httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS147330992030195Xfulltext|0 Wow Just wow|1 This is TO ChinaHK not FROM China HK Unless Im misunderstanding the title|0 Just remember your managers dont care about you Youre just a cog in the capitalistic machine easily replaceable Your wallet can recover but you cant if you get sick and the healthcare system gets overwhelmed and they have to turn people away|0 As I said the lockdown started 18 days ago why shoudnt it start declining by nowObviously most people got infected during the first days where no measures were taken that why we saw so many new cases last weekThen the lockdown started people stayed started to take precautions etcI mean they probably infected their family members but thats itMost experts said that we should remember february 9th because thats the day where we would see where this goesIt totally makes sense that there are less new cases now|0 These vids are pretty humorous parodies on jim bakkers career of bs httpswwwyoutubecomplaylistlistPLwV95EIdLbLxodT1aKeD9LSyBKgtTHs|1 I couldnt tell if this post was satire or not at first Its not as bad as they say Its way worse than they say Especially if they are the US mainstream media|0 So according to that your theory super spreaders would be type O|1 can you just grab a usb fan and put it in your face to ventilate yourself|1 Not really far left tho just a left wing coalition of which the centreleft party is the dominate one I dont think we should base things on weird US views|1 The Chinese Government would like to know your location|1 Fahrenheit can roughly be read as a percentage from frozen solid to healthy person|1 Write to your governors website The only thing these assholes respond to is the possibility of losing votes|0 Currently have a super mild runny nose and scratchy throat I mean REALLY minor But I guess I cant take any chances|1 Does justice suck I guess it sucks for them but thats literally the point|0 I suppose well see by the end of the day if our government actually give a shit about us|0 Lies Its the coolest theme park experience there has been to date|0 nothign like vrchat MREs and everclear koolaid|1 The early usage of the word was for naturally occurring immunity From Wikipedia The term herd immunity was first used in 1923 It was recognized as a naturally occurring phenomenon in the 1930s when it was observed that after a significant number of children had become immune to Measles the number of new infections temporarily decreased including among children|1 Good point although there are documented cases of elderly patients showing cytokine storm based on delayed immune and dampened inflammatory response Delayed immune response can trigger extreme Cytokine Storm httpeuropepmcorgarticlePMC4899096httpeuropepmcorgarticlePMC4899096|1 that sums it up pretty much yeah|1 Thank you That is my biggest fear because I have a 2 month old Ive been waiting to hear how infants do with this|0 So Canada can close its border and Reddit will suck their cocks but Trump bans flights from Europe and yall freak out This page turned into a cesspool so quick|0 Floridas gonna get hit hard if they dont lock their shit downSo many old people there|1 They arent honouring policies that were booked from about 12 weeks ago OP should be ok since they booked well in advance of the outbreak Our insurance company said they would honour our agreement and we booked a trip back in early January before anyone knew this was a thing|1 Well sure but its not hard to teach people how to use a mask correctly I mean yes a lot of homosapians are indeed pretty stupid but proper mask uses is not that hard to teach Its kinda like the whole handwashing thing we are having to teach them too|1 people were shitting on the WHO for praising china lol|1 Did you just realize how the world works right now Yeah rich people get more stuff But you know who is rich Hospitals and they really need those masks more than anyone else With price fixing they wont get them I have 1000 masks Am I a criminal in your eyes|1 Bring the industry and the jobs home When we actually have an economy again universal health care will come Because it is cheaper for industry and business to do so But is you are going to be using Chinese Communist Party talking points and communist slogans the only thing you are going to see is gulags and mass murder Bring the jobs home Bring the industries home|1 So 999 is ok but 1001 is not Ok whatever Go to school off China for god sakes|1 Warnings for three years What a dipshit The scientific community has been warning for DECADES I clearly remember an ecologist at UCSB warning hundreds of students about this repeatedly in 2000 as an undergraduate In lecture We should have been planning this response since the Spanish Flux200BAnd it is the states that must take action now And they are sitting on their hands considering weak action as deaths mountx200Bstupid fucking journalists dont listen until its politically expedient obviously|0 why completely butcher an already idiotic quote now youre the idiot and anything that comes out of your mouth is fake news to the right which theyd be correct to insist|0 What size do you need City and state too Ill look as much as I can Let me know|0 The patent is for the sequence of a different corona virus When a virus is sequenced the people who did it get a patent to protect their work Thats normal|1 Now I really feel bad for the people who planned on profiting off the suffering of others Those poor poor people|0 Sorry to hear of your situation I am in the same boat about people judgingmocking me for trying to press the seriousness of the situation on them Its falling on deaf and ignorant ears and unfortunately its innocent people like yourselves and family out at riskIts infuriation Hopefully todays national address is a bit clearer than yesterdays|1 Reading your source it suggests that the change would not be to drop the term pandemic but to reserve it for global viruses capable of causing many deaths which COVID19 certainly is|1 But at that stage Northern Italy was only reporting a single 40 year old in critical care So I wasnt sure Good to use precise language|0 Dont have to do that in her nose test that really fucking hurts|0 httpscmmidgithubiotopicscovid19severitydiamondcruisecfrestimateshtmlhttpscmmidgithubiotopicscovid19severitydiamondcruisecfrestimateshtmlPlease read thiswhilst your armchair analysis is helpful it is off by an order of magnitude|1 Amazing what a noticeable difference we can make on the world around us by just slowing down for a month Hopefully this inspires people to realize that solutions to our polluting problem will actually make difference in the environment in which we live|1 That lopinavirritonavir Kaletra is 1600 for a one month supply WITH health insurance in US at Walgreens last year Better get the manufacturers coupon Gives horrible diarrhea bubble guts Also treats HPV|0 They dont seem to go REEEEEE COMMUNISM when the government steps into the market and does bail outs for multimillion dollar companies I would be less angry if at least the people defending pure capitalism would stand by those guidelines instead of basically doing rules for the but not for me People already see that policies should change as time goes on and we learn from mistakes so why is it any different for policies that would help normal people not just giant companies|0 I hope people stand by this man|1 SCI httpsfinanceyahoocomquoteSCI Service Corporation International is an American provider of funeral goods and services as well as cemetery property and services|0 If I were her Id ask them to add me to their list of diagnosed cases that they report Governments intentional ineptitude shouldnt make it easier for them to sweep the issue under the rug|0 I will commonly use the foaming hand sanitizer on my iPhone Not sure if it does anything but seems like if shouldhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBenzalkoniumchloridewprovsfti1|1 No contact with any confirmed cases Nonsense to even state that as though it is a pertinent piece of information Clearly there was contact regardless of confirmed or not Viruses dont spontaneously generateMore importantly this demonstrates the lack of competence by the current administration who was caught flatfooted How about some testing|0 Im beginning to realize these people are lost Save yourselves|1 Cruise ship company probably handed out some lump sums to allow dockage|1 You overestimate the people in power Its pure incompetence no conspiracy They didnt get those jobs because of their qualification Now we will all pay the price for that including them Hopefully the people will learn and will choose better leaders in the future|0 Seriouslystay home Dont be a troll or you will get thrown into quarantine center with potentially sick people|0 Freezing mortgages is absolutely insane|0 I found guilt tripping to be very effective Point out that if they got sick youd be at a higher risk looking after them and so would your daughterIm sorry for your situation I hate the fact that Im on reddit recommending someone emotionally manipulate their own family but Im also glad I did it myself weeks ago|1 The black stone is at the corner of the box its just an empty room inside where you can pray in any direction|1 none of the times anything in this sub was called sinophobia was actually sinophobia so no in lie on no evidence i do not believe it to be real Also note that being racist is not a phobia Studies on racists show the predominant emotion is disgust not fear|0 Im just going to state that here in New York something seemed up This branches from what youre talking about but still in the same mindset This is focusing on education when declaring a state of emergency and the idea of getting the correct amount of days of school per year inIn NY State schools need to have 180 school days or days will need to be made up either through days of breaks being taken away or other measures Many schools have plans with snow days built into calendars and then in the spring those students have off those extra days if the snow days are unused NYC schools have them built in but dont get the extra days off if used Pretty standard in NYBut one thing I noticed when looking into this in regards to the talk of schools possibly closing was from the NYSUT NY State United Teachers website This was postedx200BDeclaration of State of EmergencyNew legislation has been enacted into law that modifies the rules relating to the 180 day instructional requirements Chapter 605 of the law of 2019 was signed by the Governor on December 6 2019 Chapter 605 provides if schools are closed on a days when a state or local declaration of a state of emergency has executed the district will not have to make up that days in order to comply with the 180 day requirement This legislation has a retroactive effective date of July 1 2019 and therefore applies to any states of emergency declared during the 201920 school yearsource httpswwwnysutorgresourcesalllistingresearchfactsheetsfactsheet180daysofinstructionregulationshttpswwwnysutorgresourcesalllistingresearchfactsheetsfactsheet180daysofinstructionregulationsIt was signed by the governor on December 6 2019 retroactively back to July 2019 Did they already have a clue in regards to the possibility of this happening|1 Im in El Dorado county but I was commuting to Lathrop daily for the last two yearsWell Im glad to see Im not the only one that needs to stock up on toilet paper for possible TPing of houses This whole thing has had me concerned the moment China went on Quarantine I knew it was already here then just common sense|1 I agree They went to the store and they didnt find what they need It is easy to switch blame from themselves to the crazy people in gloves and mask buying food|1 Thanks for helping a layman understand some of this complex science stuff|1 LOL|1 The information is known Its just being reported in aggregate for simplicityI could be wrong just speculating under Hanlons Razor here|0 If you think so perhaps you could go there and help the Mods out by countering the bad info Keeping on top of so much traffic is difficult and time consuming The smaller the sub the easier it is to keep it clean bigger subs need more help to keep on top of it The bad info is getting voted down|1 Yes|1 If we went at the first wave rate it would still take well over a month But we are all privy to it now so no way Hubei actually has reported new cases from people flying back from overseas|0 Imagine thinking fertilizer explosives are anywhere as potent as the millions of artillery shells that went missing from the Iraqi armories after the invasionIts hilarious how many people get shot by the police here and people still go hurr Ill totally defend myself against the state|0 We may yet see him change his tune Hes got to stop worrying about being a people pleaser and take charge I agree with you He needs to get pissed off|0 Well if they say its bad then it must be pretty bad|0 Infections didnt necessarily double but confirmations did while it might seem like splitting hairs it is an important distinctionEdit its an important distinction because testing is the bottleneck to knowing If the confirmations are doubling in 24 hours the virus is already highly pervasive in the community and the number of yettobeconfirmed infections is probably quite high|1 You do realize the threat that this virus poses If this gets as bad as it can without any mitigation actions we will be wishing we only had 150kEdit for you to peruse httpsthreadreaderappcomthread1239975682643357696html|0 This was really helpful for me Thank you|1 Oh yes in the scorching 60 F heat today s|1 Im hoping to see what rises from the ashes|1 Is there any medical explanation so far as to why children seem to be so good at handling it Is it down to perhaps better care and prioritisation due to their age is it to do with weight size Sheer luck|1 Western Chicago suburbs here Ive seen plenty of N95s at Menards Home Depot Lowes and Meijer along with other stuff like Clorox latex gloves etc even as recently as this week while other parts of the country seem to have been sold out for quite some time Starting to look a bit sparse only starting this week I assumed that other people wouldve been stocking up on some supplies but Ive gotten the are you a crazy person look from multiple cashiers the past few weeks|0 Lol what All software should be open source Youre mad Youve no idea how much effort it can take to build software If you really believe those people should just give away their bread youre delusional|0 Brazil president said he tested negative|0 There is lots of anecdotal evidence that it works Just last week some Japanese doctors tried hydroxychloroquine on two elderly patients that were getting worse Nothing else that works for them Within a few days their lungs had cleared up What we need now is a doubleblind clinical trial on hundreds of patients at different levels of disease severity who have not used any other drugs I agree that results from such trials are taking longer to manifest themselves than they really should|0 If someone tells you who they are believe them Trump has been very clear that he thinks this is not dangerous All other countries including Iran have been able to test Even if there were test available the CDC criteria up until yesterday basically prohibited most clinicians to order the test through very strict testing criteriaThis was not a case of a broken response The plan wasis to let it burn through I assume the logic behind that plan requires two assumptions1 The fatality of Coronavirus is similar to the flu2 Coronavirus are typically seasonal by April infectiousness will subsideIf both of the above is true Trump gets away with murder yet again at least until the next flu season when this emerges endemicThe first one is clearly not true The 2nd is fuzzy at bestIf Trumps luck run out please remember all those who repeated his lies instead of using the precautionary principle|1 And potentially about peoples immune systems failing to build immunity in rare case Correct me please if that is wrong|0 I thought it was scary before and this just brings it to the next level|0 Sure I agree But the authorities should tell the truth not lie Saying masks dont work isnt the truth|1 Thank you for sharing your story Itll help people analyze their symptoms I think|1 100 agree At least we have a cabinet committee to coordinate our response to the virus now Hopefully they are looking at that right away There are some smart people on it|1 Wow I had to idea that viruses had that ability Kind of concerning Thanks for sharing|1 Fucking ban the Americans already I love America but seriously your shortcomings should not be ours as well We are two different countries with two very different beliefs and citizens|1 Dont be like him and wish death upon a human Be better in these bad bad times|0 My brother in law went to Jesuit school When we would have discussions would find myself always thinking good point Even when we didnt agree|1 Youre right but because people associate the flu not going to the doctor and coronavirus they will not go to the doctor Therefore exacerbate the spread|0 Well that leaves questions|1 Not bad not terrible|1 Poor cooks who made the food probably got nothing lmao|0 I think we will see businesses opening back up sooner rather than later public health be damned because the world just cant sustain this kind of economic set back Not sure if thats good or bad|0 Theres this other good show on Netflix Its called Kingdom and it is Korean but it does a good job at explaining how beaurcracies interfere and only exacerbates outbreaks|1 Exactly and with a fatality rate of 35 because were definitely not under counting number of total cases which I think is actually like 10 I believe only bats will exist by July|0 That is an interesting idea|1 If that were the population today 3 billion people would have died to the Plague of Justinian Holy|0 in normal situations if you miss your payments they start working on getting you evicted thats what takes months If youre able to start paying again after several months you will likely still be evicted Your landlord at that point will probably not want to deal with youUnder these situations though I have no idea how any of it will work No one really knows though I suspect landlords will still want their money At which point tell them to go fuck themselves dont pay them any backowed rent and try to find a new place|0 Right So when people criticize China now just listen Think of it as practicing listening to criticism|0 Also good thing Trump is not quarantining himself so that his entire staff can end up with it|1 We need to take some comfort that there are 66m people in the UK 10k is a lot but even 100k is a tiny proportion of the populationDont get me wrong Im self isolating but the population is huge|0 Errm He said quite opposite today quote from CSPAN transcriptIM NOT REFERRING TO IT YOURE TALKING ABOUT THE VIRUS NO THAT IS NOT UNDER CONTROL FOR ANYPLACE IN THE WORLD I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS UNDER CONTROL BUT IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE VIRUSx200BIm quite he is lying for sure as usually They arent controlling what theyre doing like bunch of drugged idiots|0 China is only interested in China That is their strength now|1 Denial is a normal human reaction dont be surprised and dont show your frustration I think theyll realize it soon enough if things start to worsenAre these friendsfamily by any chance playing the lottery Tell them that the odds of winning the powerball is 1 in 292201338 and yet people see that as good enough that they still hope to win The odds of dying of coronavirus is 2 thats not low Stocking foods and supplies isnt a waste of money either youll use them anyway Well as long as youre not in full survival mode yet|1 Thank you I just added it If you know where the other Santa Clara case is please let me know|1 How awful and humiliating Ill have all the orange chicken|0 Have you seen any interviews with Donovan Mitchell He was the second NBA player to test positive for the Coronavirus He said recently that he feels like he could play a 7 game series He wouldnt know he was sick if he didnt test positive|1 Thats why Im worried Northern Italy went form like 7 to 200 in no time Now look at it|0 Election year and recession |0 No one will ever know the true death total in China Anyone who speaks out in China winds up dead|0 So how many days after hard core social distancing do we experience expect peak 14 days|0 Good to know thanks for pointing this out|1 World health organisation or this guy idk Its obvious that China has human rights issues but it has nothing to do with the novel coronavirusThe Chinese government is to be congratulated for the extraordinary measures it has taken to contain the outbreak despite the severe social and economic impact those measures are having on the Chinese people said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus the director general of the World Health Organization WHOWe would have seen many more cases outside China by now if it were not for the governments efforts and the progress they have made to protect their own people and people of the world he said|1 My girlfriend has symptoms today and has been on the hotline for almost 45 minutes to see about getting tested Weve had no confirmed cases in the county but shes also a social worker and has been in 47 different households in the last 2 weeks|0 Waitwhere are you how can you not just find all the information about cases outside of China in minutes by googling Of course this data is independent of Chinaits not from China Now if your talking about the cases in China I completely agree How did you get Silver for a comment that makes no sense|1 May the masks be ever in your favor|1 The government of Switzerland is making the same argument and considering the virus to be especially dangerous to the elderly it seems to make sense to me|0 I agree most will get it or a vaccine if one is found to work Day 3 in self isolation and I am already wanting to go out I did have to get some fresh food I get anxious if I run low on anything|0 I dont think its going to get bad enough soon enough Texas has the most people without health insurance in the countryWe also have a lot of little towns that dont have trauma centers or real hospitalswhich means a lot of older people who cant get to a ventilator fast enoughIf attendance is down that helpsbut there will still be an outbreakit just isnt clear how bad that will be|0 Well done|1 Pardon but how many actually dead and infected|0 True but you only see the tourist areas|1 There hasnt been any interest in continued work on developing a SARS vaccine on a disease that didnt seem to reoccur There has been some progress with more general antiviral techniques including those that could target coronaviruses since however|1 As a freelance writer I commiserate LOL Everyones so mad about having time at home and its just business as usual for me I feel a bit put out tbh P But Im lucky to be able to work from home and have my income secure Im grateful for that|1 Yeah So imagine you get to ride the same train to hell with insurance agents|0 Im guessing complete fucking dumbass|0 Yes I would isolate at least until your friends get tested and show negative results|1 This is so stupid Did you see the lines at the border today CLOSE THEM EXEMPT MEDICAL WORKERS ITS SO SIMPLE Instead of having 60000 people queuing in Chiasso etc have 4000 medical workers queuing instead Fuck everyone else I cant go to work here in Ticino and I LIVE HERE If I cant they shouldnt be either EXCEPT FOR MEDICAL WORKERSSorry very upset at how stupid and irrational all of this is If we do X then most certainly Y will happen and those are clearly the only two options possible s|0 Hes all about being first as long as he can tweet while on the ventilator hell be happy|0 Bwahaha Not in the us It varies from state to state And my income from work being 0 doesnt mean they dont count unemployment insurance incomewhich is high enough I dont qualify for free insurance Im not sure where you get the 60 nonsense Its certainly not me Id get just enough to pay my mortgage and food but not enough to cover my electric gas garbage etc This isnt complex math here Id make more then the poverty level Now I might get a subsidy that covers some of it but it would be very little Meanwhile my bills havent dropped Soshould I choose losing my home because I cant afford my mortgage Because Im paying insurances|0 No no no Its been towed beyond the environment its not in the environment|0 I think a lot of people are willing to donate 25 a month towards helping find a cure right now Especially the subpopulation of people that have high end GPUs|1 Yep as I said all this is moot We did dick all with our 2 months If you havent stocked up do so now before we get the tidal wave|0 thanks I will update the figures daily as they become available|1 The funeral industry is small If we dont stay then bodies will pile up We are lucky to be told causes of death|0 First thing that came in my mind when I saw the topic on front page lmao|1 neither are hand grenades apparently|0 The evidence regarding the efficacy of 4Aminoquinoline type antimalarials is mounting and positive Their effect against SARS2CoV is mainly twofold By acting as an immunomodulator And By acting as an autophagy inhibitor the way that the molecules of these types of drugs are distributed into cell compartments and then become trapped due to generation of an acidic environment Protonation of the molecule is how they remain in the vacuole of malaria Plasmodium where they prevent a critical step in Heme metabolism its buildup causing cell death and antimalarial effect the parasite dies due to the toxic effect of Heme and products of its metabolism Similarly Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine concentrate in the endosomes that form to facilitate viral entry They absorb protons from the environment becoming protonatedcharged and become unable to efficiently diffuse out again the concentration inside the forming endosome builds up the continued removal of protons from the environment prevents the pH from decreasing to a sufficiently optimal level for proteases to act on the viral spike protein a critical irreversible step facilitating membrane fusion and viral entry so the 4Aminoquinolines act as fusionentry inhibitors against nCoV this underlies their effectiveness The only issue with them is their toxicity especially in certain patient populations and drug interactions theyre cheap and widely available The evidence for the effectiveness of Kaletra LopinavirRitonavir is weaker overall across all published literature it failed in the cases presented in the japanese papers Many countries have banned the export of Kaletra Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine And for good reason 4Aminoquinolines have significant preventative and disease modifying effects when used for a max of 7 days 500mg BD for Chloroquine 400mg single dose for Hydroxychloroquine in most literature they were given IV to the sickest but theres no reason that they couldnt be used orally at home should health systems become so overwhelmed that even a substantial number of critical cases remain at home or without IV therapy provision The rules for compassionate use need to be relaxed for drugs like Remdesivir which has only been approved for use on a case by case basis to the very sickest on a trial footing evidence shows prompt antiviral treatment in patients expected to become severe cases the elderly smokers and other special populations is associated with better outcomes We cant continue waiting until theyre all close to death Treatment with these drugs needs to be started when cases are expected to worsen due to comorbidites it will prevent many cases of ventilator use initiation and ECMO requirement at a time when both therapies are in short supply Interesting to see CHDF in continuous use for one case hear indicating the need for renal replacement therapy due to viral sepsis mainly an immune over reaction or direct viral toxicity to the kidneys which express ACE2 highly as do the lungs GI tract and lots of vasculature The 4Aminoquinolines should remain effective for a good length of time the mutation required for resistance would involve changing the structure of part of the S protein in order to facilitate hydrolysis by cellular protease at a higher pH induced by Chloroquine such that cell entry probability remains high even with high 4AQ conc I am in a comorbidity risk group for immunological reasons With the current state of the evidence I would hope to be treated with should I get a severe presentation of COVID19 Fluid resus and ventilator support under Anaesthesia PropofolRocuroniumNG or PTN nutrition Hydroxychloroquine Remdesivir if any is available I probably wont qualify as I have chronic conditions but under 35 or ill get ill too late and there will be no experimental supply remaining as a very actively try to avoid infection If viral sepsis is apparent trial corticosteroid high dose therapy evidence not strong for efficacy here andor antiIL6 treatment with ToclizumabIf conscious and coughing and short of breath supplementary oxygen and morphine Possible use of various CV drugs if hemodynamically unstable which I have experienced due to septic shock from bacterial pneumonia in the past Will most likely be correction of hypotension I will be active trying not to become infected for as long as possible I dont expect ECMO to be available when I become ill hence I will press for early initiation of antiviral therapy and will be happy to be part of any clinical trials And if things get so dire that I cant access any treatment at all through a hospitalICU Ill put the above into effect myself as I have all the necessary resources and will partner with 2 other physician friends should anaesthesia and prolonged unconsciousness be required In the context of overburdened healthcare systems GPSPCPs should routinely prescribe 4AQ drugs with proven safety and high availability for use at home if necessary in those patients who can safely take them This is one of the very easiest countermeasures to implement should desperate people require something to try as a last ditch effort to prevent death should hospitalisation become impossible due to saturation Peace and best of luck to all|1 Hes going with the fuck it approach carry on as normal so business doesnt collapse and worry about the rest later|1 And theyre not far from rightIm of the opinion that were still just seeing the ugly tip of an otherwise notsoterrible icebergWith the rate that cases are exploding in places like KoreaGermany because testing is identifying them while hospitalizations remain stable Im of the belief that theres far more infected in the US than we knowI think this is just an extremely transmittable marginally more dangerous seasonal flu Its very dangerous to at risk people and older people which is a very large number of Americans Theres people who should take precautions but if seems to be spreading as easily as it is the only solution is self isolation if youre a risk group The government should focus on preparing to care for serious cases above all else And that includes knowing when to send people home in moderate cases as to not overwhelm the medical system|0 Youre wrong stop confusing peoplethis is a respiratory virus If youre wearing a mask you wont breath those contaminated droplets in when someone around you coughs period|0 Youll get treated you just might be bankrupt after the treatment and have to sell your house or be out in the streets|0 Mosques here are encouraging people to pray at home My mum was like this is the time to pray more and I was like yes but from home |1 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 HOW IS QUARANTINING FLIGHTS FROM CHINA RACIST THAT IS WHERE THE FUCKING PANDEMIC IS COMING FROM MY GOD YOU SNOWFLAKE SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS NEED TO GO FUCK YOURSELVES|0 My wechat seller for goods merely said Im safe for now thank you for your concerns I cancelled all parties and outings|1 lmao|1 Who ridiculed and berated you I go out with mask and gloves nobody gives a shit|0 Imam of Peace isnt an actual imam Hes a shady guy that uses a cover of being a Muslim to speak on behalf of Muslims Please do your research this guy is NOT legitEdit His name is Mohammad Tawhidi Just to clarify he says things like terrorism is denounced in the Quran and opposes things like domestic violence etc which most Muslims AGREE with already to seem like a good guy just to further his own political agenda He regularly aligns himself with people like Katie Hopkins Pauline Hanson of One Nation and Stefan Molyneux|1 i promise 1k month yangs ubi policy isnt enough to be lazy on|0 In my city the first case of Coronavirus was a young women returning from Italy to a very affluent neighborhood here She got tested and while waiting for the results her younger sister and father violated quarantinehttpsnewsstlpublicradioorgpostfamilystlouiscountywomancoronavirusviolatedquarantinegoingschooldancestream0 and went to a Father Daughter Dance at the Ritz Carlton and probably spread it all around |0 Everybody I know is making fun of me and this includes medical professionals Alls I am doing is telling people I am close to to have on hand food and supplies to last them a month Thats it They think I am ridiculous and my Facebook feed is filled up with people saying covid 19 is silly Ugh|1 good to hear|1 This is actually what happened Survivors had a greatly increased quality of life as the value of labor became much greater|1 Firstly their Second This is not a sponsored post I wish I had been paid I think we need to take more precautions to stop the spread Any company not doing whats best for the population as a whole should have their selfishness known|0 Saudi Arabia is the meta play Then focus your early points on water transmission and cold resistance|1 if u are immunocompromised getting sick might be life or death situtation so when its starts spreading in colorado u should socialdistance yourself for sure|0 The WHO is one big contradiction My guess is that they consider thishttpswwwcnncom20200214asiacoronaviruswhochinaintlhnkindexhtml and thishttpswwwgooglecomampswwwnationalreviewcom201706worldhealthorganizationcorruptwastefulamp and thishttpswwwnytimescom20170513healthcandidatewhodirectorgeneralethiopiacholeraoutbreakshtml and thishttpswwwtandfonlinecomdoifull1010800143659720151112232 to be misinformation Time for them to take advantage of this situation to hide all their dirt|0 Yep Im sure theyll try to spin this like it wasnt entirely their fault every single step of the way The world really needs to move all production of goods elsewhere so we can properly give Xi the finger|1 Yes but they probably just mean the heart should be monitored|1 He does it all I wouldnt be surprised|0 Trump directed them to He took their power and told no reporting unless it goes through Pence honestly think this is a huge problem|1 I live about 600km from here but man keep calm just trust in Italy and its Sanity Sistem|1 Thats anecdotal evidence though For the 10 that died it was the worst virus they ever encountered|0 Since Batface doesnt want us to visit I genuinely thought it was an insult like brat or sth until I saw your username|0 Our president is a moron what do you expect|0 how come other politicians hate him if they work for him|0 The ICU doctor interviewed yesterday literally said they are triaging He didnt like the blunt ways of putting it but its literally what he saidCall it whatever nice terms you want if it makes you feel better but the reality is that theyre being forced to let weak and elderly patients diehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVEhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVE|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Very little treatment for viruses Tell that to Magic Johnson Tell that to my pediatrician who would provide Tamiflu in a heartbeat if my disabled child had a positive influenza testI know its like we learned and created nothing from HIV all those decades|1 There are many factors for why the virus hasnt exploded elsewhere Primarily because it hasnt yet exploded in China and very early detection and reporting of the novel agent allowing international surveillance to take place in that critical early periodWith a novel agent such as this which appears to be capable of some type of airborne transmission hygiene will probably not be a big limiting factor on spread|1 Look at Japan scrabbling for Diamond Princess Then imagine that but like 100x in Wuhan Japan is a econonic power but the entire state has trouble dealing with one cruise shipSure plenty of shit China has done wrong but saying other country can do more under the same scenario isnt logical or reasonable A democracy cannot just shutdown cities and states You try to quarantine 50 million people in a democracy|0 Im a conservative I agree with Rush much of the time an unpopular stance on reddit But hes wrong here and pretty foolhardy considering he himself smokes cigars has advanced lung cancer and probably a weakened immune system while he receives treatment for that Similar to the Pope if he dies from covid19 get ready for people to suddenly realize this is not the common coldand for panic to really set in|0 I did I think everyone understood from my post that they should tell that in the tone they talk with their friends as if the fact of elderly mortality rate would not affect them directly|1 Seriously what is wrong with you|0 Why do you need to wear a mask Because the coronavirus has a long incubation period average 8 days during which it can spread to others CDC and WHO told us only the patient need mask but actually the patient is asymptomatic during the incubation period you dont know if you or anyone else has been infected Thats why in Asia everyone wears mask which can protect themselves as well as othersHeres the latest research report on the incubation periodFindings The estimated distribution of forward time fits the observations in the collected data well The estimated median of incubation period is 813 days 95 confidence interval CI 737891 the mean is 862 days 95 CI 802928 the 90th percentile is 1465 days 95 CI 14001526 and the 99th percentile is 2059 days 95 CI 1947 2162 Compared with results in other studies the incubation period estimated in this study is longerInterpretation Based on the estimated incubation distribution in this study about 10 of patients with COVID19 would not develop symptoms until 14 days after infection Further study of the incubation distribution is warranted to directly estimate the proportion with long incubation periodsmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030620032417v1httpsmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030620032417v1|1 All of my orders have arrived as promised next or same day every day this week including today|1 Yeah I cant take Tylenol and if all NSAIDs are off the table then Im out of fever reducers I can take|1 How good are those open borders in Europe|1 This may turn out to be shortsighted but I am still hoping for not the worst case scenario I bought half the supplies I need for 2 3 weeks and will buy the other half when shit hits the fan I dont want to be stuck with a bunch of useless stuff|0 It would also be a good idea to wipe down the packaging with alcohol wipes when you get the items|1 Wuhan has been stable for a few weeks now Around 4500 severe patients still in the hospital and 10000 mild cases under quarantine China outside of Wuhan have 450 remaining active casesThere will be a long tail of people who are really ill but take a while to either die or recover Daily recoveries in Wuhan for severe patients is around 200 per day so it will be another month because Wuhan is okRight now China as a whole still have around 14000 active cases with roughly 20 deaths per day and 10001500 recoveries per day There are between 2050 new cases per day for all of China mostly coming from overseas httpswwwzhihucomspecial19681091trendsmaphttpswwwzhihucomspecial19681091trendsmap This has detailed Chinese stats by province|0 If theres an actual outbreak in US the insurance companies all go bancrupt and nationalized care will be the only one thats possible to run|1 Oh that sucks so bad I think its totally reasonable that they should ban drivers from entering the houses and just leaving the shopping outside Even in cases though where you have to enter the house because someone whos disabled or too old to carry their shopping shouldnt the company provide you with masks and gloves Its mind boggling that theyre not doing everything to protect their employees If a large number of you have to self isolate at the same time its going to decrease the companys business What are they going to do then|0 I dont want to live on the same planet as all these stupid people|0 Theyre famous and idolized People look up to them For some people those actorsactresses safety can be placed higher than their ownYes pop culture is stupid but thats how things are now If you and me get the virus and die were just 2 deaths We can only deal with it|0 This is just like that woman from the Communist party meeting shouting We can overcome this|1 Although I know this is a joke it was an 80 year old Chinese tourist|1 The one who denied teslas research saying it had no use And then had his lifes work confiscated when he died|0 They dont have an unlimited number of tests They have to triage the at risk to efficiently treat them and manage outbreaksIts very mild for youth they should just stay inside and not spread it Play videos games and jerk off lots do whatever just dont get your parents other old people or other atrisk people sick|0 The core problem is masks are unavailable Its not a phobia it is the lack of masks in general and how masks need to be available to medical personnel in mass quantities first They are simply not available It begins and ends there Quit judging because there is just a lack of available resourcesThere is a reason why people are not wearing masks they dont have access to them|0 THIS If nothing else this scale of crisis has made me DEEPLY aware of how fragile our modern society and economy really are and how many things I take for granted in my daily life|0 WTF were those dumbasses thinking darwin awards incoming |0 HA I wish we are all fucked|1 Exactly exactly The impending storm I feel like no one around me cares as much as me|1 Reframe that as 1 in 50 odds and it seems less attractive|1 Great comment|1 Shes not Shes a dem Flipped a district in Orange County CA in 2018 I meant Representative not Republican sorry for the confusion ha|1 Seeing stuff like this give me hope that for all its issues and problems humanity will get through the stupid things we do|0 Hello from Oklahoma I am an immunocompromised SAHM to a 4 year old Its been hard making decisions like this but you wont be alone in distancing yourself socially Doesnt matter what anyone thinks I dont think weve tested enough people to get an idea of how far this virus has spread Just my opinionnow would be the time to start isolating you and your family a little more|1 Its the first pandemic of our history that has caught this many peoples attention all at once with new technology I think with this comes in new information as soon as it is being released to be available to everybody on the internet So everybody can panic all at once which is as scary as the virus itself|0 The other difference in a hurricane is in one place The rest of the country can still manufacture and support logistics that might not be the case here|1 This was my worry too A lot of the youtube comments seem to think hes kissing Chinas ass This makes me wonder if China is actually doing a very good job and the rest of us are kinda screwed If the 18 mortality rate coming out of hubei is the best case scenariowelll then If Im being honest this mortality rate would mesh with how aggressive countries are being with lockdowns and quarantines|1 Something along the lines of this is serious and you should take aggressive measures to keep you and your family safe the Govt is working on it but in the event of a worst case scenario start preparing now|0 This petri dish agrees my University is obviously only going to close down if and only if a student or someone dangerously close has been TESTED positive Which in my state it is ridiculously slim considering theyve only tested 20 people total I imagine it is because they have something to lose if students seek partial refunds of some sort from a semester cut short They would rather be reactionary and be open a week after it would realistically be unsafe to do so|0 OR LETS HAVE FIRST FULLY ISOLATED VR OLYMPICS|0 I hope all YOUR mistakes get overly criticized|0 Good on the school for taking the initiative and closing the school against government guidelines|1 Lol essential oils health care provider|1 Oh yes My mid70s mum on blood pressure meds after a heart op told me if she needs essentials she can go and get them from the local shop She was planning to go to her oldies exercise class today and then was surprised when it was cancelled So I quoted the gov guidance about deliveries and getting assistance and was told to stop worrying and that old people seem tougher than their kids What can you do Theyre grown adults with functioning brains Until a lockdown is enforced its up to them I can only assume it is taking them a bit longer to adjust and realise that the world has changed overnight|0 We can only hope|1 There is a 1 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200304 064348 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003042006434820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsey1qw8773000ncovtestkitsarenowbeingproducedperfgew2mncontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Fey1qw82F773000ncovtestkitsarenowbeingproducedper2Ffgew2mn2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030420063A433A4820UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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February that this is where things were going Id be gobsmacked I am gobsmacked|0 Lets be honest this poor guy most likely had a cardiac arrest Statistics say that 425 people a day in AU die from heart diseases How many from nCov Much much less|0 parabolic takeoff geeshgreat work ty for the charts|1 KCKKCMO has several of the wealthiest zip codes in the nation|1 When all of this began I kept telling everyone how much I felt like this was straight from the Happening Mother Nature stepping in to wipe us out|1 Menards is a good place to stock up if youre near one They werent cleared out and people dont typically think of them as a place to buy shelf stable food|1 FUCK CHINA|0 No hospitals in the US cannot refuse to treat patients Its just that many will avoid hospitals until their situation is dire because they cant afford the bill|0 Thank you for this I have added a link to your testimony to rJustStayHome Thank you for helping drive the message that THOSE WHO CAN SHOULD STAY HOME|1 Heh thats probably his biggest fault and strength always trying to help Hes nervous but optimistic|1 Im not agreeing with her by the way just pointing out that stupidity is not limited to the general public|0 and I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you pesky kids|1 Comparing to the crash of 1929 is a little ridiculous at this pointThe DOW was 381 points before losing 36 over the course of 7 days|0 Its fucking painful and frankly dangerous The government need to people to adhere to the plan for it to work Meanwhile we could have arseholes causing the NHS to collapse because they read the completely unqualified opinion of an armchair expert and decide to disregard the guidance of our extensive scientific experts|0 Its heartbreaking Chinese nurses and doctors break down frequently due to the amount of stress and the work that they do I saw a video of a Chinese nurse having a fullblown breakdown in the nurses room screaming and crying that she didnt want to die And for patients to just spit at them when theyre trying to help them is just disgusting I would love to link it but those videos get taken down in a flash because of their governments current censorship But Im sure its still floating around some people did livestream of this Coronavirus thing playing these videos|1 Remember those days when we thought it would be very difficult for white people to catch it due to their low ACEII receptor count|0 This is a good question for the health departmentIm not a doctor but I do know that the virus has been found not only in lung cells but also in the feces and to a much lesser extent blood So potentially there could be potential for infection from a body|1 Trump lost his ability to sway the market awhile back He is now a liability It was a joke anyhow But would be poetic for him to get taken down by something he called a hoax This market was propped up so blatantly that all we are seeing is the excuse for profit taking and it to deflate the bubble created by tax cut fueled buy backs and repo|1 The worst take part 2 Keep your terrible takes coming thoughEdit Here is an article talking about the effectiveness of maskshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf I wont even bother getting into your other terribly misguided points|0 Rationing with a price cap or even free handouts sounds good to me The problem is price caps without rationing which actively makes things worse when there is an actual shortage for reasons I outlined aboveI agree the free market doesnt work in certain situations We also have to remember that market interventions do not always work They have to be the right market interventions|1 Dow may fall to 16000 due to panic then worst case scenario 14500 start investing bellow 22500 now 20000 18000 16000 if world exists you will retire rich Dont buy stocks invest in businesses big businesses If you dont understand markets invest in Index FundsNever invest money in stock market which you may need in next 3 years Invest for long term 3 5 10 yearsSave my comment and read it again after 6 months 1 year 2 years 5 years|0 The problem is that a lot of people DO need to be told to do whats right I have personallyobserved that the majority of people I know believe this is overblown hype and they have said they wouldnt allow the government to tell them whether they can leave their house or not Unfortunately we live among a bunch of stupid assholes|0 Honestly didnt need this virus to know governmentsworldwide dont give a fuck about the people And thats just a hard pill to swallow for someMaybe one day people realize governments are on opposite side of the public common folkEdit but that is true for others that may have never saw it with their own eyes and just needed something to show them basically|1 We have a few rentals as well I have been thinking a lot about what we might do if some cannot cover the rent We have money set aside for maintenance that we could tap into to pay mortgages but we would have to recoup that money later which would add a burden on the tenants by increasing their payments later on We could temporarily lower the rent and forego taking any income though this would stress our finances in turn as we would probably also see our income from the 95 job decline with everyone elsesWe will just have to take it as it comes and do the best we can|0 How do I help someone who still says it is nothing to worry about because it is just like the flu|1 Payroll taxes fund things like medicare and social security Seems like the wrong move Besides if you are hourly and cant work how does a decrease in your payroll taxes help if you arent getting paid I just dont get how this helps Anybody Id love to understand better|1 An employee collecting the grocery buggies in the parking lot at my walmart was wearing gloves and a mask yesterday I dont blame him a bit The store should provide them if they expect people to just work as usual during a freaking pandemic Plus surely it would be better for the store if less employees get sick Less time off they have to pay less callouts whose shifts have to be covered etc|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 OMG how awfulI hope you and your family stay safe|1 Was just this second saying this to my husband I think some people think that they get the flu every year sometimes several times My dad died in the flu epidemic of 89 so its a really personal bugbear of mine when people describe a cold as the flu|0 I thought that size drink was illegal in NYC|0 BackgroundCruise ships carry a large number of people in confined spaces with relative homogeneous mixing On 3 February 2020 an outbreak of COVID19 on cruise ship Diamond Princess was reported with 10 initial cases following an index case on board around 2125 January By 4 February public health measures such as removal and isolation of ill passengers and quarantine of nonill passengers were implemented By 20 February 619 of 3700 passengers and crew 17 were tested positiveMethodsWe estimated the basic reproduction number from the initial period of the outbreak using SEIR models We calibrated the models with transient functions of countermeasures to incidence data We additionally estimated a counterfactual scenario in absence of countermeasures and established a model stratified by crew and guests to study the impact of differential contact rates among the groups We also compared scenarios of an earlier versus later evacuation of the shipResultsThe basic reproduction rate was initially 4 times higher onboard compared to the R0 in the epicentre in Wuhan but the countermeasures lowered it substantially Based on the modeled initial R0 of 148 we estimated that without any interventions within the time period of 21 January to 19 February 2920 out of the 3700 79 would have been infected Isolation and quarantine therefore prevented 2307 cases and lowered the R0 to 178 We showed that an early evacuation of all passengers on 3 February would have been associated with 76 infected persons in their incubation timeConclusionsThe cruise ship conditions clearly amplified an already highly transmissible disease The public health measures prevented more than 2000 additional cases compared to no interventions However evacuating all passengers and crew early on in the outbreak would have prevented many more passengers and crew from infection|0 Its definitely worrying I honestly believe the mortality rate is much higher than is being reported I calculated it to be aprox 20 based on Official Chinese figures released in early February Im willing to say that Im no expert but that was simply basic mathematics I work at a hospital in the UK and I cant begin to explain how utterly unprepared the NHS is for something like thisWe already run above maximum capacity daily we are already overwhelmed over budget underfunded and understaffed Throw in supply problems from Brexit and were potential in a disastrous situation|0 New Guinea iceland greenland madgascar and philippines have been always pain in the ass in plague inc|0 Netflix not reallyTheir once a month subscription model doesnt really benefit from an increase in viewing demand|0 Honestly it is important to not create an immediate panic How important its impossible to say It fucking sucks though|0 reminds me of dead frontier diariesbrowser game|0 The CDC is absolutely deserving of criticism for their botched handling of the outbreakInstead of gearing up to begin testing as soon as possible to contain the spread they wasted precious time developing their own tests that were faulty inaccurate and further delayed coordinated response by requiring that all testing be sent to their Atlanta facility Theres absolutely no reason that we should have less than a thousand completed tests right now when China and South Korea have ramped up their testing abilities within the same timeframe Its gross incompetence that will get innocent people killedChina is deserving of their own blame for sure but dont deflect from our own incompetent officials to put it all on Chinas feet|0 Everything is fine until it isnt|1 The numbers will speak for themselves when hospitals start to collapse|0 optimistic that the West can learn a few things and start moving factories back home from ChinaIn 12 months there will be a vaccine and for fall 2021 it will be added to the annual strain list for influenza vaccinations In 24 months we the collectivecorporate we will forget this even existed and go back to chasing the bottom dollar We will have learned nothing|1 my 30 year old BIL was denied testing IN the pneumonia stage after none of the other testing flu strep etc came back positive Confirmed pneumonia through Xray All the symptoms including pneumonia and they sent him home after an antibiotic IV and some steroids They are willfully turning a blind eye|0 Anyone suspecious that maybe the CCP made this story up to make it seem like things are going great|1 During a crisis of this scale assuming thousands and thousands of extra people are evicted there will be plenty of landlords desperate to have people move in The rules will change|0 Picks teeth with toothpick puts back and then coughs on them Are you sure this isnt North Koreas|1 In Wuhan no LSE patient was infected due to regular use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine This is one of the major reason why Chinese doctors and scientists got their focus on it|0 Tomorrow COVID19 pandemic threat upgraded from Very Real to Super Real may be Ultra Real by Wednesday|1 I want to thank everyone that contributed with out this thread and all the users I definitely would not be as prepared as I am I also feel that because of this thread we as users know the closest to what the truth is Thanks again and hope everyone got enough to last until vaccine come out |1 I actually listen to that interview The person claims he heard this from one of his friend who is a crematorium worker and he keeps claim how serious and how bad the situation is until 9min mark into the interview he said although no one in my WeChat groups is infected yet I learn all those from our WeChat group from other people that is where I stopped|0 I was following up to your point wasnt disagreeing with it|1 stay healthy|1 Yep Exactly my trail of though And Im wondering why Im anxious At least I know Im not alone|1 American Airlines pilots union is already suing to block flying to China right now|0 Yep Not if but when No one can be hyper vigilant forever and the virus is patient Well just avoid it as long as possible in order to flattenthecurve|0 This is criminal levels of negligence and when this is done those in charge need to be held to account|0 He was hospitalized before he had pneumonia He had pretty mild symptoms in general at admission seems like they primarily wanted to monitor him to understand the progression of the illness|1 I will say that even when i was living paycheck to paycheck I managed to find money for beer smokes and junk food Even 20 a week since the virus broke out could have built a decent stash of emergency suppliesNot judging anyone BTW|0 Waking up and checking this subreddit is a daily ritual inCAN I PANIC NOWCAN I PANIC NOWCAN I PANIC NOWCAN I PANIC NOW|0 No one has shown signs of the virusYet|0 httpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201911191115190327htm Ketogenic diet helps tame flu virus November 15 2019 Yale University Summary A highfat lowcarbohydrate diet like the Keto regimen has its fans but influenza apparently isnt one of them Mice fed a ketogenic diet were better able to combat the flu virus than mice fed food high in carbohydrates according to a new study |0 That is a political subIts all Trump bad America bad China great|0 Exactly this Theres no way in hell I would do this Not even for 50000 Butmy cousin who I occasionally venmo a little cash to so he can buy groceries for his kids because hes poor and struggling I bet he and his wife would both jump all over this That would be a huge amount of money for them Its not that they want to infect themselves with a virus any more than the rest of us dothey value their lives and their kids and everything Its just that an amount of money like that would be a huge deal for them And thats why the word choice is subjective|0 incinerators are not the point its that the pandemic crisis maybe is not over there as the govt is making it seem|0 But how many of those people wouldve soon died anyway To determine the lethality of the virus the question isnt how many are infected and die but what the increase in deaths is|0 I had 2 flights this year first time going out of asia too Sucks|0 Best of luck when you start trying again |1 This tweet has an image of his full statementhttpstwittercomfrankthorpstatus1236791712628060161s20 In it he says doctors told him testing wasnt useful if youre asymptomatic so he hasnt been tested That isnt correct from my understanding Is he saying this because there arent tests available or because he doesnt meet the CDC guidelines and is trying to cover this up|0 Yup but theyll still shit all over western institutions and capitalism|0 I hope this disease crawling across their door step scares them into action Were in a lot of trouble here and our Govt is afraid to actually do anything|0 Your comment was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 I appreciate your input Today I will have a group talk and hopefully reach an accord without emotions getting out of handMy anxiety level is escalating|1 Im ambivalent on the temperature screening Its easy to dismiss it as psychological theatre but psychological theatre is quite important during a public health crisis Also having temperature screening stations everywhere probably does deter people who are seriously sick from going around in public Obviously those people shouldnt be out and about in the first place but people are stupidRegarding sending medical aid to China its probably a necessary symbolic PR move aimed at distracting China from the fact that Singapore was one of the first countries to close its borders to Chinese travelers The amount of material involved is not significant|0 OGRES are like ONIONS|1 I suppose they figured some way to stop people from cleaning masks off the shelves and mailing them out for 10 eachAs predictable as that part was it doesnt fail to disappoint and anger me Although there are enough to go around if distributed properly there are plenty of people in China without masks vulnerable people who are forced to wash and reuse them Stores are selling the bullshit cotton ones that do nothing for 5 Then I think off all the other people who apply paint cut lung damaging stone and to other daily work requiring masks in all the countries of the world who also have to to go without now|0 Gun violence is not the same thing as mass shooting Mass shooting is defined by the FBI as a shooting in which a person used a gun to muderwound 3 or more other people These are actually rare altrough most common in US still The vast majority of gun violence does not fit into that category Half of gun violence is suicides|0 I havent heard or seen anything about death in the 1019 age group Where was this Source|0 Or people are overreacting Most cases are mild or with no symptomsThe death rate is not 20x that of the regular flu like we are seeing when people claim its a 2 death rate|0 Everyone is buying hand sanitizer Most people rarely ever buy sanitizer The difference between everyone taking 1 vs 2 is a massive difference despite seeming low|1 TBH Im probably being paranoid that watergerms are circulating without flushing because we live in an old building and the plumbing is gravitybased I use toilet paper to open the seat and wash my hands immediately after anyway|0 Thanks If youre interested you can look through my post history last week for some more I havent had the time to compile a bigger post like this until now|1 Do we know yet how long the virus is able to live on hard surfaces|0 Not surprised at all considering how few fucks the government gives Im just surprised it took this long|0 Yeah imagine if this had a long period where you spread the virus without having symptoms then you suddenly died like with Ebola Wed be fucked|0 Yes I agree with you all I have really bad anxiety and panic attacks that cause shortness of breath and chest pains I am having them now but I am used to this Currently no fever whatsoever Anxiety is a craaaazy thing to deal with totally all in your head Thanks for your input|0 If indeed they recently found this indiviudal and he is on deaths door that is not necessarily a bad sign i mean it is bad if heshe dies but it is not indicative of the virus behavior per se because there is a window to get treatment once it is in your lungs and if you miss that window you are in very bad shape Just chiming in to say that DJT did just say one of the casees was in pretty bad shape so maybe it was the new case we dont know However tht he has no connection to the other cases which I actually saw for myself on the JHopkins mapHumboldt Co not a spouse not connected likely IS how the blow up begins If you cannot trace to source you cannot get everyone and boom explosion Hope this is not the case but California is setting up to look like our epicenter at this point in time It might not be the case but they sure have the dots on the map|1 Its literally short term loans for 15T its not a gift to the banks Providing liquidity so the market doesnt crash and make things worse is very different than a gift|0 Im literally talking about the medias handling of a virus dolt Youre just another Bernie Bro that loves his pork filling his obese belly Sorry Zoomer video games and tends arent going to save you|1 With so many unknowns about this virus long term effect how can anyone be summed its just a smaller positive Schools should be shut until more is understood|1 Murderous incompetence many will get infected many will die|0 Please do not postcomment links to other unrealiable subreddits You can check out our trusted sister subreddit repidemic and rcoronavirusI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I think voluntarily closing schools could be the best of both worlds Parents who can keep kids at home should If they can join class remotely even better Parents who cant afford to bring kids home feed kids three times a day or provide internet access keep bringing their kids to school The school size would be drastically reduced many teachers could teach from home and the risk of spread would be greatly reduced but not eliminated|1 I have been thinking about this some in the USA My concern would be Trump manipulating this scenario He would not be the beneficiary otherwise|0 Sweet Jesus you think they bolted everybodys door shut You saw a video and assumed thats happening to 14 billion bitches here|0 Also since COVID 19 is a virus no antibiotics would work|0 Yeah like after that hotel collapsed with 70 people still trapped inside I caught myself thinking that China can actually say something like What Wuhuan You mean The Great Crater of Zin Era It was always here you fool with a straight face|1 WTF Some guy does shitty thing then tried to make himself look better by giving away a lot of stuff Reddit gets mad Some basketball player does a shitty thing then tried to make himself look better by giving away 2 weeks worth of wages and its all good|0 A fellow have no fear Tony F will get this shit under control Porca Madonna|0 This is the same tactic What youre saying is selfevident Obviously the word affected is accurate That said it would be hard to make a case there is a square inch of Chinese soil that doesnt qualify as affected and none of this changes the fact that its been a major CCP talking point to impress on people that the virus hasnt ravaged the whole country when indeed it obviously has|1 Why is the death rate death recovered I said a better rate to look at not death rate It is a better rate as in a different metric because it at least means something when compared dayoverday consistently while the death rate calculated right now means nothing without knowing future spread patternsIe if today the disease magically stopped from spreading the death rate we rely on would do nothing but increase since the denominator will never rise but chances of numerator rising quite high On the other hand if all of a sudden the virus evolved into a strain that is much more infectious but less potent and spread accross the whole world the death rate can actually go down to flu levelsUnderlining again death rate is only meaningful by the end of the epidemic but says very little today If you are interested check out H1N1 or SARS death rate at their early days vs the real rate at the end of the disease You might get shocked at how vastly different larger or smaller they get|0 What people in positions of power say is meaningless now|0 Yeah I bought in late Feb There was still plenty of toilet paper and other supplies available everywhere I like to buy large packs anyway so I dont have to worry about getting TP for a while but I dont have enough space to store tons and tons of itI encountered people who werent buying into the whole hype thing and didnt prepare until the last minute Thats not my fault We all heard the same news reports at the same time|1 Well I guess maybe negligent homicide but in US I am guessing any type of murder would not be successful Maybe the lack of Turning in correct list but would have to show intent to injure at very least by not turning jn correct list Maybe that is there|0 Thanks you toorCoronavirusFOScommentsfcdv6stheoryifyoureintheusandhavebeen|1 Oh dang thats awful Elbow bump for solidarity man|0 No That would make the economic fallout really bad Just take precautionary measures if you arent in China|0 It might be worth contactinghttpswwwsupplychainnhsuk|1 Sounds very badI started feeling like South Korea itself is a big Diamond Princess And we are all in even bigger Diamond Princess called the earth I hope Im wrong|1 That question is above my pay grade but certainly a good question|1 I thought this guy was smart I no longer want to work for Tesla|1 nah if it isnt already suspended it will be soon|1 Or you can do like Korea does and have nationalized healthcare Everybody pays in and everyone benefits If you want more specialized treatment you can get a private plan|1 Those are frontline heros|1 Theyre refusing to admit people that dont show serious symptoms while being at high risk Hospitals dont admit people for shits and giggles and filling a hospital full of the most vulnerable people with contagious ones that can survive on their own is idiotic|0 While this could spread the death rate is going to be up to 3 percent which is higher than the regular flu but we tolerate thatThis will likely be something well have to deal with because we cant keep people quarantined and well accept the death rate just like we do when millions die from the regular flu every year without a single remark|0 When youre debating abortion youre not debating death Youre debating the meaning of life|1 100 agree|1 Most of it is unconfirmed it could have been taken months earlier So no not posting them That being said the source is mainly I forgot her name but she works for Steve Bannon who btw really hates China Ill post it once I get home|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead 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officials arent testing unless you have serious symptoms For mild symptoms they just ask you to self isolate for 12 weeks happened to a friend was denied a test|0 Is this finally a real number or is the virus starting to spread exponentially|1 Theres probably not a single person following him that thinks he did anything wrong Their faith in him makes me lose faith in humanity|0 Im with you man I dont want to go in tomorrow I feel like Im just spreading shit all around and its shitty That said reading this re contextualized what we do I couldnt imagine what the panic would be like with totally empty shelves That said I realize we arent the people knowingly walking into Fukushima to help but its nice to get praise during this shitty time|1 God were gonna beat this OK CmereWell apparently in the medicine community negative means good Which makes absolutely no sense In the real world community that would be chaosNah but really this is great news|1 See this is the stuff thats making me worried The media can fearmonger all they want but when huge companies start willingly taking financial hits because of this things its actually alarming|1 no if he decides to put himself in danger for no good reason|0 North Carolina here Nothing in my county reported yet but I work at a hotel doing front desk in a tourist area Should I be worried at all Im 30 and in good health but worry about bringing it home to the family|0 No they didnt I should be more clear thats my issue I live in Northern Ireland and instead of following the example set by ROI we have done the opposite in line with the UK Forgetting about NI political issues for a moment this virus doesnt stop spreading just because of a land boarder we are such a small country I live very close to the border and could go up and down as I please within minutes My company also has the option of working from home but we havent been given the green light yet specifically due to the governments response and advice Its like they are afraid to be proactive due to the official information released yesterday I dont understand it Where working from home is possible why not enforce it now in an effort to help lessen the spread|1 Their hospitals are overloaded because the hospitalization rate is like 20 which is crazy high The mortality rate is bad but not apocalypticImagine if every bed in every hospital in the city was occupied Where would accident victims go That is what Wuhan is dealing with Its like a Vegas scale mass shooting every day for weeks on end They are burned out and getting sick themselves This virus isnt going to kill everyone on the planet But it sure does a great job of clogging hospitals|1 This is gonna get laughed out of court so fast because it was an unobtainable part|1 I got choked up in the grocery store yesterday Seeing the shelves thinned down made it finally hit that its getting real here and no longer an ocean awayAll those Wuhan videos we saw are going to be relived in our own communities|0 Or Sync Im sure they are both 1000x better than reddit mobile or the reddit app though|1 You should tell her shes being incredibly selfish Shame her into selfisolation for 14 days Its disgusting that shes putting everyone around her at risk just because she cant handle the thought that she might be infected because of her poor decisionmaking|0 An on top of that even if a person wont have severe symptoms they can spread the virus further and infect those who are at higher risk Thats selfish too I personally dont fear the virus Im much more concerned that I could pass it to my family members who suffer from heart diseases People are just being extremely shortsighted|0 They stringently test a lot of people so more results come back positive also most of the infected are from those cesspool cruiseships in Japan Singapore has a lot of people who came back from China after Chinese New Year a lot of business from China is done in Singapore Singapore is basically like Chinas purchasing department a lot of brokers there Thats also why there was an article citing medical experts on how they doubt the current virus free status of Indonesia low infected count of the Philippines despite all the Chinese workers there and also Thailand which suddenly stopped having new cases without even putting up travel restrictions from China|0 Why there is an Orange president even if he always say crazy and stupid stuffYou see crazy shit happens|0 I was wondering about this How exactly did they isolate them on the plane Can you elaborate|0 What Im shocked by is how the world watched how bad the virus got in China yet was still so ill prepared when they spread outwards even though we all knew it would happen Im in the UK and Im honestly shocked at how little the government is doing They havent cancelled massive gatherings and schools are not closed when clearly the rational and response is to prevent the spread Just learn from China Japan South Korea Italy Learn from the world|0 If she keeps the virus out she wins the next electionIf the virus comes in then she is out it really is that simple|1 I am a very strong critic about our government I dislike all the parties blue red and the orange one but there is no cover up in Canada regarding this RelaxThere is a cover up in terms of the influence telecom companies have over our government though|0 The dutyfree billionaire who gave until he is left with just his home comes to mind Tremendous respect is due to him|1 It doesnt count if youre ancestrally Italian This has to do with the country itself not the ethnicity What a bizarre post|0 So I assume you are vegetarian Yesand the most pressing problem facing humanity right nowNo|0 Japan is just delaying this and making it worse They will end up taking everyone off one by one instead of in mass I cant imagine what the locals are thinking about these infected people in their hospitalsThere has to be better solutions|0 The reply is probably referring to one person infecting the entire population It rarely works like that|0 We are doing quite well in containing this I think given the fact that something like 20k tests have been conducted That being said by next weekend I suspect well be around the 800 mark ie where Germany is today|1 Agree Why the LOLSimply saying lots of Chinese population in Australia because government openedfully removed the gates Many people came back from China 3 weeks agoSimple|1 Ask every customer if theyd like their table to be moved|1 Only problem I see is that people can get reinfected IRL where this assumes they develop 100 immunity|0 Welcome to my hometown You will always be my honoured guest and best friendNo thank you At least not for the next few months|1 Not all heros wear capes|0 Jesus Christ I hopw you did some stretching before you pulled off those mental gymnastics Youd think im advocating for your death the way you put it|0 And those masks dont even protect the person wearing it most of the time they only offer some measure of protection from spreading rhe virus to others|0 Any lives saved would make this project a success|1 From the articleIt is not known whether the child contracted the disease in the womb or was infected during birth So they cant tell at this time if the baby was infected during delivery or prior|0 Got it thanks|1 If you want more info on Coronavirus the CDC website has a plethora of information symptoms background current status in the US httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtmlFAQs about transmission httpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirushowitspreadshtml|1 Id say that reddit is usually not as personal as twitter I havent seen brigades that go as hard as the usual Twitter mob|0 That is really bad 3 negatives and then a positive wtf is this|0 Unless you drink or wish to keep a functional liver in general Every company in the world is trying to capitalize on this and the spread of misinformation continues as usual|1 Does this apply to Foxconn and Chinese subsidiaries or is this mostly virtue signalling from Cupertino to push up shares Asking for a friend w a suicide net|1 If someone was traveling in another part of the country like my relatives who insisted on going to Florida for spring break during a pandemic do you think they would be allowed to come home or would they be stuck in their condo|1 Wired has another article about how your a bigot if you dont want the virus to just run its course|0 Hahahaha half of the country cant even agree to require people to have insurance we do not have universal health insurance and you think our government will set up quarantine welfare payment|0 Cruises were definitely not on my bingo card in January|1 You are the cats meow the breath of fresh air the morning sunlight Love you kazki Why do something productive that you enjoy when you could be moping around worrying about shit you cant control overeating and annoying your friends and loved ones with incessant whining Double plus plus up votes for you|1 Im self employed and renting as well as a single parent the good thing is I can work from home the bad thing is my work will probably decrease significantly due to cancelled events client impact and i have to balance it all with childcare|0 You have any sources for these numbers you quote I have not seen CDC say only 10 of cases have been reported or 6080 of the world will be infected|0 Ignorant person You need to go outside more and open your eyes to the world Saying everyone is going to help each other is stupid Weve already seen people taking stuff from each others hands during the panic shopping at Costco Everyone is own their own if this gets out of control|0 If you make 2300 a night and dont get your own healthcare there isnt a medical plan that can fix that kind of stupid so no big loss|0 It is Wuhan In like 8 days|1 In this hypothetical run out in the midst of winter youll probably catch your death on the way there Winnie the flu isnt the only virus out there|0 Its not just young people My workplace today gave us the option of working from home and its the old guys who are saying they dont care at all and are coming to work two 60 and one early 50s|0 I work for a hospital system and we go through Hippa training every year It would not be a Hippa violation to name the city in Florida the hospital is located|1 I feel sorry for the people that do this for a living It isnt Costco staff but rather another company and I doubt they will be supporting their staff that now doesnt have any work|1 in Jan I bet an engineer who had run some numbers I took 1m confirmed did not see testing issues at the time and an MR of 4 he went higher hope to be wrong|0 We seem to be leading the way in the stupidity stakes Dont forget they travelled to Italy to play too Sports going to be responsible for a lot of deaths at this rate|1 They already are offering no interest shortterm loans to the banks Thats what the Fed did when they cut rates to 0|0 Not gonna doxx my aunt sorry|0 In Texas as well Im concerned that it will continue to spread and then spring break will hit South Padre Island as a sort of breading ground for this thing People from everywhere gather in a small island and then they travel back|1 A lot of the people joking care quite a bit It is a coping mechanism|1 It sure does to me Iran surely has a few hundred cases and South Korea is showing it can spread in dense areas with good hygiene standards|1 The mainland government also just suspended approving travel pass for mainlander to go to HK|0 China knew what virus they had it leaked from one of their labs|0 Thanks bud I hope you do too|1 I find it comforting to know that we are all going thru the same thing|1 I had started realising this sort of anxiety after SARs where people are discriminated for sneezing coughing etc so people were afraid to do those usual stuff in the public People around me are having the same anxiety now discrimination kicks in everyone suspecting everyone everyone is on edgeI really feel for you and we should all stay calm but vigilant And good on you for isolating yourself|1 With the economy going down reelection is unlikely But if the country is in total crisis the election will be postponed|0 His stupid wife took a completely unnecessary trip and has now exposed our PM Now Trudeau is possibly infected and MIA during the biggest crisis this country has faced since WW2|0 Every Irish City including Dublin has canceled As have Boston and Chicago The fact that there is a debate about this just underscores how fucked New York is|0 I sure hope so|1 As a Seattle resident its so surreal seeing this happen seems everyone at work just brushes it off and thinks the government is overreacting Its sad 50 dead is truly gonna have to be what it takes for people to wake up|0 No wonder they were late releasing it|0 The Government in Beijing deserves as much blame as the Local Government in Wuhan The first case was reported on 1282019 and samples were sent to be analyzed a week later in Shanghai Beijing knew full well that by 12152019 they had a SARS like virus on their hands and still they did nothingDo you have a source Beijing knew about this on the 15th The rest is your opinion and you are welcome to your own opinions|1 Well heres something Ive done some looking into treatment protocols today and it looks like France is the only major European country that isnt recommending the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine so that might give us some good data Of course France is using other antivirals that might throw off the results but its better than nothing|1 The funny part that you guys dont know about this guyHe dont really care about his own people Koreans Not taking the virus issue seriously in Korea and pretty much letting the virus clusterfuck to happen soonThere is already more than 10000 people arrived from China and many of them from Wuhan and we cannot track them at all|1 Yea lets see what happens in the states because theres a commercial interest to green light Remdesivir for ncov|1 Everyones treating this like he was asked as a celebrity what to do about the coronavirus He a professional football team manager was asked if his team was taking any precautions against a dangerous virus currently spreading around the world He then responds like a dickhead while completely missing the point I cant be the only one here that fucking watched the video right|0 I was young enough that I was worried there wasnt sufficient hospital beds because it was killing young adults so efficiently|0 Hes shaking hands with everyone and still reportedly tested negative If thats true hes probably got an aide squirting him with hand sanitizer every 5 minutes|1 Yes exactly and france kind of have a good health system affordable and of proximity So my guess that the gouvernement is kind ofWe will pull through itBecause the issue is that the best way to stop the spread of the coronavirus is Everyone gets it deal with the serious cases everyone develops anticorps against it immunized population Back to business as usualAs long as you health care system can push through it is the best solution before a vaccine can be create from scratch Which might be end of year at the quickest|1 Italian here The problem here is not the healthcare system the problem are the idiots like this first guy who despite coming from an affected country and having a temperature for 1 week kept on going around spreading the virus Then we had the other idiots who despite being quarantined decided to leave the red zone and go to their home region Our healthcare system is one of the best The people Not so much|1 uRaccoonWithKnife I appreciated your validation I know I might be overreacting but knowing that theres a possibility that Im not makes me feel better about my decisions|1 No human no coronavirus tho|0 All the more reason to propagate the message Nobody couldve seen it coming Anybody who claims otherwise is a conspiracy theorist|0 WhatIts almost identical to SARS Its so close that SARS antibodies provide resistanceDont spread misinformed panic|0 Yay|1 What happens when nuclear plant control rod operators and other critical people are struck down Air traffic controllers supermarket food distribution managers Doctors The military Non of this has ever been featured in books or movies They just feature young good looking people GAP clothing walking around shooting zombies or in our case virus carriers|0 Basically I told them theyre both in high risk groups and a vacation where youre constantly worried about catching the virus wouldnt be fun anyways|0 Pride will keep the virus away s|1 Id like to hear more about your platform|1 Absolutely I received a message directly from the manufacturer in China 2 months later canceling my order stating that the government wouldnt allow export of medical supplies at all due to the COVID outbreak Care to edit your comment now Literally the government of China wouldnt allow export This is not a racist rant This is a factual statement Most plastic medical supplies are manufactured and exported in China|1 My friend had respiratory distress fever coughing fits and works at an airport where she came in close proximity with a passenger who had coronavirusEvery urgent care and doctors office refused to see her|1 Theres an argument for not wasting time and resources testing something you cant contain especially if those resources are better used elsewhere|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 This is a bad analogy on its face but im driving so ill have to get back to you|0 They contracted the viruses as in were symptomatic It can take 2 weeks to worsen after symptoms are shown|0 At every level Or just federal Because I dont think he has any authority over our local health departments|1 Ok|1 The markets are already down because of the virus I cant be blamed for any drop in stock price today by announcing|1 I believe mortality would be skyhigh if there was any real threat of reinfection especially amongst the densely packed hospitals of Wuhan Any source of there being reports of reinfection Reinfection seems unlikely at the moment it has never been seen in coronaviruses before|0 I was talking about sick leave That has nothing to do with your annual vacation days Hell you can even use last years leftovers till June of current year|0 Ooh snazzy Thanks for the tip My surgical spirit is 95 I might just mix it with boiled water like you said and spray Ive been making it up as I go along so have plenty left Look at all you guys helping me out I will live to fight another day and everyone that read my incorrect post|1 Yes this helps too|1 Agree see reply to previous comment above Thanks|1 I would like the other sub thanks|1 I dont have tons of masks Maybe a dozen It Im hoping Ive put aside enough foodsupplies for me and Husband Not all fancy but food I figure wed hole up at our place Enough supplies to last 46 weeks and just not go out Let others lastminute panic and not deal with it Its like school assignmentssome do them lastminute some start when assigned|0 I give it a week tops pending how quickly National Guard gears up After this weekend it seems like everything in cities is shut down or shutting down going into next week|1 Heres the official proclamation published on the White House website httpswwwwhitehousegovpresidentialactionsproclamationsuspensionentryimmigrantsnonimmigrantscertainadditionalpersonsposerisktransmitting2019novelcoronavirusNOW THEREFORE I DONALD J TRUMP President of the United States by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America including sections 212f and 215a of the Immigration and Nationality Act 8 USC 1182f and 1185a and section 301 of title 3 United States Code hereby find that the unrestricted entry into the United States of persons described in section 1 of this proclamation would except as provided for in section 2 of this proclamation be detrimental to the interests of the United States and that their entry should be subject to certain restrictions limitations and exceptions I therefore hereby proclaim the followingSection 1 Suspension and Limitation on Entry The entry into the United States as immigrants or nonimmigrants of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamationSec 2 Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entrya Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply toi any lawful permanent resident of the United Statesii any alien who is the spouse of a US citizen or lawful permanent residentiii any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a US citizen or lawful permanent resident provided that the US citizen or lawful permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21iv any alien who is the sibling of a US citizen or lawful permanent resident provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21v any alien who is the child foster child or ward of a US citizen or lawful permanent resident or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR4 or IH4 visa classificationsvi any alien traveling at the invitation of the United States Government for a purpose related to containment or mitigation of the virusvii any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C1 D or C1D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crewviii any alienA seeking entry into or transiting the United States pursuant to one of the following visas A1 A2 C2 C3 as a foreign government official or immediate family member of an official E1 as an employee of TECRO or TECO or the employees immediate family members G1 G2 G3 G4 NATO1 through NATO4 or NATO6 or seeking to enter as a nonimmigrant in one of those NATO categories orB whose travel falls within the scope of section 11 of the United Nations Headquarters Agreementix any alien whose entry would not pose a significant risk of introducing transmitting or spreading the virus as determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services through the CDC Director or his designeex any alien whose entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives as determined by the Secretary of State the Secretary of Homeland Security or their respective designees based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designeexi any alien whose entry would be in the national interest as determined by the Secretary of State the Secretary of Homeland Security or their designees orxii members of the US Armed Forces and spouses and children of members of the US Armed Forcesb Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to affect any individuals eligibility for asylum withholding of removal or protection under the regulations issued pursuant to the legislation implementing the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment consistent with the laws and regulations of the United StatesSec 3 Implementation and Enforcement a The Secretary of State shall implement this proclamation as it applies to visas pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of State in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security may establish The Secretary of Homeland Security shall implement this proclamation as it applies to the entry of aliens pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of Homeland Security in consultation with the Secretary of State may establishb Consistent with applicable law the Secretary of State the Secretary of Transportation and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that any alien subject to this proclamation does not board an aircraft traveling to the United Statesc The Secretary of Homeland Security may establish standards and procedures to ensure the application of this proclamation at and between all United States ports of entryd An alien who circumvents the application of this proclamation through fraud willful misrepresentation of a material fact or illegal entry shall be a priority for removal by the Department of Homeland SecuritySec 4 Termination This proclamation shall remain in effect until terminated by the President The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall recommend that the President continue modify or terminate this proclamation as described in section 5 of Proclamation 9984 as amendedSec 5 Effective Date This proclamation is effective at 1159 pm eastern daylight time on March 13 2020 This proclamation does not apply to persons aboard a flight scheduled to arrive in the United States that departed prior to 1159 pm eastern daylight time on March 13 2020Sec 6 Severability It is the policy of the United States to enforce this proclamation to the maximum extent possible to advance the national security public safety and foreign policy interests of the United States Accordinglya if any provision of this proclamation or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance is held to be invalid the remainder of this proclamation and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby andb if any provision of this proclamation or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance is held to be invalid because of the lack of certain procedural requirements the relevant executive branch officials shall implement those procedural requirements to conform with existing law and with any applicable court ordersSec 7 General Provisions a Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to impair or otherwise affecti the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency or the head thereof orii the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary administrative or legislative proposalsb This proclamation shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriationsc This proclamation is not intended to and does not create any right or benefit substantive or procedural enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States its departments agencies or entities its officers employees or agents or any other personIN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my hand this eleventh day of March in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and fortyfourthDONALD J TRUMP|1 Damn thatd be a bonus of of 70 from when I worked for the devils last year as a contractor|0 When you add all the other people who will die because they cant get cancer treatment cant get dialysis cant get surgeons to operate it will be much higher We have to be more like South Korea who managed to have currently less than 1 mortality rateby keeping everyone home drivethrough testing etc This is the way forward we must emulate|1 Yes I agree I said confirmed cases There are much more cases which are not tested China government saw the big crisis in the future so they locked down Wuhan as earlier as possibleSame thing happens in the global today Many countries have hundreds or thousands of confirmed cases of course there are more in society without being tested but no countries saw the big crisis and locked down cities except Italy today|0 Do you know something about permanent damage or longtime health effects of covid19|0 Good point about its mutation I hadnt considered that So hopefully the findings were consistent with the other results as that would be cause for us to breathe a collective sigh of relief|1 Hey as long as people get help in their time of need|1 fuck that means I cant leave my home anymore good thing I went shopping today for non perishables|0 Well thats disheartening Good to see it but worrying how broad an area it is|0 Do you have a source for that number Would very much appreciate one Thanks |1 Do you know the word context These media scum are all to keen to smear people right of Stalin by taking videos out of context to vilify them Im afraid you are the lost cause bud if you believe everything the media says|0 Super bummed|1 I loldStraight to hell for me|0 Most proctored exams dont allow you to use a builtin webcam Has to be external and set up in such a way that they can see your screen hands and face simultaneously on top of sharing your screen with them|1 Agreed Im gardening a LOT Once I ran out of gardening I made custom painted labels for all my seedlings Now theyre pretty and make me happy to look at|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im reminded of the joke about the bank who wont loan you the money unless you can prove you dont need it|1 And thats not even the worst case scenario|1 Especially when our current president is a republican that just wants to improve on where Obamacare failed while also keeping some of its better aspectsThis is such utter complete orangebuttmunching fanfiction that anything this dude says can be discarded Trump knows fuck all about health care or how to improve it Trump likes golf his daughters fake boobs junk food period|1 nah ill probably buy 100 and sell them for 60 each|0 Thank you|1 Copied here for you mobile folks courtesy of Reddit Staff March 2 2020Redditors have long turned to their communities to find discuss and share the 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Controlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsummaryhtml|1 We should do something like that but it wont all be over You cant completely isolate everyone People will need to provide healthcare food garbage collection utilities law enforcement etc The virus will have enough hosts among these people to continue transmitting|1 Its more of info sharing and light discussion off topic we direct to the second room|1 It doesnt matter whether we as readers agree Jeopardy should be providing the information that is available so that everyone is getting all the stats available from the official sources|0 uHymenCholo that is hilarious|1 RemindME 6 months reply to this thread if Im still alive snark hopefully|1 Everyone has a number above their head right now and its your chance of contracting the virus Reduce your exposure and it drops down Act normally and regularly see your parents their number stays high When 100000 have this in a month that number above your parents head will be a high number|1 Yep Doesnt surprise me AT ALL I dont use Airbnb or Vrbo any more after we went to London recently back in January and our rental flat was flooded had to call the fire marshal to basically turn off the electricity because the owner didnt respond and the water was pouring through the electrical lighting fixtures from above Despite Vrbo making you pay the entire amount up front which they hang onto for months prior to your trip their official response is that they dont do refunds and it was OUR job to get a refund from the owner who didnt respond at all Luckily our VISA card people refunded us or else wed be out thousands of dollars I know people thought Airbnb and Vrbo was a good thing and they advertise their payment guarantees and all that but that the guarantee part only applies to taking your money not going it back Your money is at big time risk if you use those services If something goes wrong you are screwed not them You have to then work to get your money back which should NOT be the case If you go to a hotel at least you dont always have to pay in advance and they have a standardized process for refunds|0 My parents arent worried about it and they are in their midlate 60s I am begging them to just wash their hands and not touch their faces even if only for my peace of mind|1 Thanks this is what weve all been saying for months now|1 Can the virus be fought off without medical intervention If I am a 28 year old male in relatively good health what is my probability of successfully surviving|1 In the gaming industry we like to call it anouncement of the anouncement|1 Caught someone yesterday going through the PPE cupboard in my workshop they where after the dust masks I told them I had ran out and how they wont work anyway I havent ran out Im just saving them for the people who need to use them for their actual jobs Im just waiting for people to steal the soap dispensers and toilet roll now|0 If youre asymptomatic and everyone is then even an accidental cough here and 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easier to quarantine It also only spreads when you have symptoms Ill copy pasta something I wrote beforeEbola required transmission through physical contact CDC The virus spreads through direct contacthttpswwwcdcgovvhfebolatransmissionindexhtml Its fairly easy to stop human contact harder to stop breathing SARS was another but it was only transmissible while you had symptoms CDC persons with SARS are most likely to be contagious only when they have symptoms most contagious in week 2 of sicknesshttpswwwcdcgovsarsaboutfaqhtml Ebola was also not spread during the incubation period only after you have symptoms|0 So a debt holiday its the best idea Ive heard on how to get folks to stay home who live paycheck to paycheckhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchtimecontinue912vOXOD1sCqsKgfeatureembtitlehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchtimecontinue912vOXOD1sCqsKgfeatureembtitle|1 Yea 10 days wtf is that gonna do|0 When I just heard from someone at the State HD Coronavirus is consuming everyone right now So happy to hear that this is not true and the president was able to shut down the dems once again|1 The virus can live up to 72 hours on stainless steel in lab conditions So in the real world that number is much less If you suspect the mailman has infected your mail with Covid19 simply leave it in your box all weekend and take it out before he delivers on Monday Of course a liberal use of hand soap when you get back in and disinfectants on all surfaces will help|1 Well Sun kills viruses Beach should be fine to go to|0 Not necessarily the dude has a history of ignoring advisors and doing what he wants so he could refuse treatment or not take it seriously while claiming hes getting the best treatment|1 The COVID19 virus means the virus responsible for COVID19 as used by the WHOhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019technicalguidancenamingthecoronavirusdiseasecovid2019andthevirusthatcausesit|1 BTS Stans are pathetic|0 One thing I have been thinking about is how do we disinfect our cars If I am exposed test positive then how do I disinfect my car that I drive to allow others to safely travel with meLeads me to conclude we are all going to be exposed in time|1 ANXIETY is a beeeyotch|0 I know however in Telugu they stretch the line above letter into a somewhat triangular fashion In Kannada however the line remains straight as can be seen in the bottom text here Very subtle difference however noticeable when two texts are presented side by side|1 Apart from it was handled effectively and had a positive ending|1 We should be cancelling all cruises worldwide|0 Maybe it was this studyhttpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0035421As for MERs there has been less than 2500 cases There are illnesses with more cases that dont have a vaccine Your racism is frankly disgustingLooking forward to your sources|0 Yea I mean he and his administration will likely be directly responsible for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths its such a fuckedup mix of narcissism selfishness and incompetence that this president has This was bound to happen with him running to show during a real emergency|0 Is super dope sounding|1 If the celebrity getting doesnt do it it will most likely be when someone they know gets it Keep those hands clean|1 Its affecting more and more under 65 in Italy Serious cases of people 40 and 50 years old Doctor say this is happening because they gave priority to old people and sent he others home and now these younger patients are arriving at the UR in a really serious state of illness|0 ELI5 so what is the difference Is it simply amountviral load Could this person become infectious andor symptomatic again Because with Covid apparently there is a time before showing symptoms when someone is already contagious|0 There is nothing vague about it The health care industry problems are immensely complicated and frankly I see no point going into details of all the issues that it contain None of the issues are going to effect what we are going to face which is all ICU beds being filled by early May at which point FEMA will have field hospitals setup for spilloverAll this testing people are obsessing about isnt going to stop the progress of the virus its going to identify pockets of the highest amount of cases that need quarantined The cases will well out pace the ability to test for it At some point CDC will be setting up fever clinics to get people to avoid hospitals and clinicsIf we can prevent panic rushing to the hospital thats a good thingYou and that author dont really grasp whats happening and what the US plans to do to counter it I am not conservative I certainly have a label for myself but whats the use You assume my position and you want a label so you can easily dismiss whatever I say|1 Colorado started their drive thru swabs yesterday and tested just over 160 people The CDPH website showed just over 300 people tested over all The population is about 57 million people in the state Less than 0003 of the states population has been tested Colorado is one of the more progressive states on the pandemic and that is where testing sits The governors statement yesterday mentioned the state is hoping to receive another 1500 test kits from the CDC in the near future Any swabs over the states testing capacity are sent to commercial labs which can take up to 4 days for results The capacity doesnt seem to be scaling up to meet the demand in a timely manner|1 Would be amazing to have this done here in the states Im a retail worker and Im terrified going to work everyday|0 Oh I see is there no rule of thumb|0 Oh its going to be bad We arent prepared at all Im personally shocked that anybody thinks it wont be|0 Thanks Exactly my plan and Ive already put all those you mentioned below except the tea for my family I did joke about the amount of tonic water required in order to get the required amount of chloroquine Be prepared|1 The article explains its not due to reduced pollution its because the lack of traffic that usually moves the bottom of the canal raising sanddust|0 Landlord here and I agree If my current tenants mention anything I will respond with No Problem at all I got this for youI see the end game here and the current game isnt to make things worse for those that could barely afford the prior game if they were in the situation I really dont know their financial situationsAlso ALL LANDLORDS should have loss rent insurance if it gets out of hand I dont think Ive even seen that mentioned yet anywhere|0 Hey yall just letting you know theres a 50 chance some of us are gonna want to quarantine in 8 weeks Make it easy for everyone and buy beans and ammo nowOr hey sorry to be a buzz kill but that virus weve all know about for 7 weeksits here Go rob your 711 before your neighbors do Shove anyone who gets in your way If someone shoves you shoot them goodluck out there|0 My mom keeps referring to the numbers saying this and that about how this state isnt even that bad yada yada yada She thinks im crazy when i sat we arent testing claiming the president said millions of tests are available|1 How dangerous is COVID19 Compared to flu and other more common viruses|0 Oh yeah the mail guy I remember that Wild|1 Risk of shortage Thats a great opportunity to buy the whole stock and resell them at 4000 markup|1 I should add that I can only speak for Shanghai from what I have seen myself and what my friends here can tell me I dont know about other citiesprovinces|1 Italy reports the worst number in Europe but they are in best shape I believe Biggest shock will come from those ones are still numb to this pandemic like Germany France etc|1 Whatever you believe they are of course Everyone else who says differently is wrong|0 Northern China buy masks during winter because of the smog|0 Laypersons have an option of staying home Healthcare professionals DONT Most jobs say otherwise Most people are being told you miss work for illness find another job same as any other day Even the few who do have sick pay as a benefit the norm is 5 days per year or less Considering 1 out of 3 Americans are 1 paycheck away from homelessness this is a huge reason you wont see people staying home|0 Linear increase would actually be a good sign if we can assume its representative of true cases I dont think thats the case yet|1 I kind of agree but also think were unsure especially when we look at Italy And though death rate is rather low the amount of people that need hospitalization is a very important number that were figuring outI will say we live in quite a luxurious time that we can shut down the world over this Almost no other time in human history had the ability to do so or theyd starve to death|0 A lot of things on this subin the comments surprised me And not in a good way|0 Ah natural selection in full effect|1 Were already failing to use our collective knowledge of history to contain this thing Chances are it has already spread widely in the US and we dont have enough medical supplies and staff to deal with a large number of cases coming in at once Hospitals could become overwhelmed In Italy they are already having to prioritize critical younger people with more like to live over older patients for ventilation support We have not applied the lessons of the past to today despite all our technological advances|1 Those with Diabetes Hypertension Respiratory Pulmonary problems are more at riskAlso smokers are at a higher risk can be as much as 2x the risk|0 yesbut if you really want there have many ways to visit now I use vpnI also have a virtual server on google cloud |1 so Im done trying to help people who are in denial|1 STOP SAYING THESE ASSHOLES ARE DISGRACEDThey were a disgrace long before they were caughtWhy are only rich white guys disgracedI have never seen a poor black criminal called disgraced|0 I spoke to my father who has this exact thought pattern and wished the government would continue to tell white lies and stop testing people and stop reporting deaths because this was a conspiracy to get trump out of office and all this was political driven|0 Lol you think we will as well|1 There really isnt much you can do other than just be careful about hygiene and avoid busy public places as much as possible|0 So shes a woman you say Thats a shocker On a larger scale thats called Sweden|0 Yeah man Im with you If everybody told them to get fucked then they would have very little recourse|0 We did just that but we were prepared so its all going pretty smooth and easy I hope more can choose to do the same and delay their infection by a few weeks until we have a clearer view of the problem and maybe more solutions|1 Hes not just copying it Hes putting it in a simpler quicker to read better format|1 Yeah most likely going to diy route Get my mom to sew them up for the family|1 There are no private emergency or ITU departments nor private ventilators nor private ECMO beds|0 I suspect its because if they banned events or shutdown travel they would have to provide funding for the affected industries|0 So they brought 100000 people with the viruscompromised immune system to their hospitals so they could infect each other while waiting for a test Thats some populistic shit for a nice headline thats only making things worseWhats the point If you have even mild symptoms selfisolate at home for the next month If it gets bad call the hotline Now if they could develop express athome test that would be a gamechanger|0 Doubt it|0 Yep I overheard a conference call and they said to let employees stay home if they feel they are at risk for the virus and my dm laughed and she said fuck that|0 but even if your figures are accurate your statement is misleading I doubt that all 700000 people would require hospitalization at the exact same time|0 People who think nuclear exchange would end the world are living in the world of propaganda Nuclear weapons are not anywhere near as deadly or powerful as movies make them out to be and most of them are aimed at military targets not civilian centersAnd no the nuclear winter is not a real thing It was a theoretical concept that we believed before we knew enough about radiation|0 The people who arent dumbasses are getting the fuck out of the city right now And going where If London goes on lockdown then most cities in Ontario probably will as wellYou wont be able to out drive this and youre probably not going to be able to get onto a flight anywhere|0 Negligent is the word I would use for whatever orders might have lead to this This is horrible|0 Its relativeWatch Western Europe for a total cluster fuckThey let in millions of street shitting invaders theyre not going to suddeny develop competence Western Europe that is Eastern Europe will protect their people and be vilified for it|0 Only wear a mask if youre sick|0 Seizure by private entities irresponsible distribution reselling In times of panic people do panicky things these all need to go to specific and strategic locations|0 This means allot Thank you for sharing We need to know all that is a happening Im very sorry for the current suffering and I pray it is resolved soon|1 He found warnings given by the free primer design software that everybody has access toThe CDC has lost any ounce of respect I had left for it I wouldnt have gotten away with this in an undergrad project Even I used primer3 during two internships Anyone can do it Its hosted online|1 If you did would you use a knife and fork Cuz eating McDonalds fries with a fork is weird unless its poutine McDonalds fries are designed to be eaten directly from the cardboard sleeve|0 Good thing the TTC has recently stepped up their cleaning protocol They upgraded to hospital grade disinfectant and are wiping down the inside surfaces of their fleet each day|1 ExactlyMy neighbor is an 85 year old man with a number of health issues As of two days ago he literally told me this was a democratic hoax and so was not wearing a mask at work where he interacts with customers all day If he or his wife gets this shit and dies their blood will be on Trumps hands as far as Im concerned|0 Well they did say they were paying the cast members so thats already answered Obviously at the end of the month theyll have to reevaluate the situation and move from there|1 A country filter would be really helpful|1 Its not like everything they do is perfect|1 Looks like bats back on the menu boys|1 Price gouging doesnt actually prevent shortages though In fact price gouging only works if there is already a shortage or if it creates a shortagePrice gouging also doesnt create an incentive for increasing supply like you claim It creates an incentive for keeping supply low even artificially if you have toFor proof look into the people in Vancouver reselling lysol wipes In order to keep their business going they needed to keep buying out costcos stock every morning Or look at the diamond industry which keeps supply low in order to keep prices high|0 Yeah 9400 being monitored in California Id say a significant chunk of that number are ignoring orders to selfquarantine|1 Not surprising since Australias economic output anywhere from property education services to mining is tied to the Chinese economy Australia is at the end of the world just after East and SE Asia and China Japan are the largest economies in the region|0 i dont drink because both of my parents were severe alcoholics so that runs in my genesbut that hand sanitizer looks tasty after reading this|1 Lets hope so If its insidious like Herpes or HIV were in deep ship without a flatout cure|1 I saw that about 90 of SKs cases are not resolved yet We will know better in 12 weeks At which point I expect there is also going to be more than one overwhelmed hospital in America|1 In some other place on reddit Ive read that the virus shedding for SARSnCoV2 is about 1000x as intense as for the original SARS virus|1 All it took was one psychotic mentally ill maniac claiming to be Jesus Christ Of all things|0 It was only after the first imported case was identified on Jan 21 that four major airlines suspended flights between Taiwan and Wuhan A ban on all but flights from Beijing Shanghai Xiamen and Chengdu was implemented three weeks laternot a total ban taiwan didnt ban travel from all china at allwhere these artards like you get their information is astounding|0 The only reason we arent on these graphs is because we are refusing to test anyone that hasnt been in contact with 5 countries The Government is suppressing any idea that community transmission is happening and thus the official infected numbers are horribly inaccurate|0 Wait what Was there a funeral in WoW|1 Not with that attitude I mean viruses are small and very hard to target but bullets are comparatively huge A direct hit on a virus by bullets would definitely smoosh the virus Based on my high school biology knowledge this kills the virus Boom|0 Obama would use it to model appropriate action Teachable momentOf course Obama also would not be in this position because he wouldnt fire the Pandemic Team and ignore the warnings|0 They mostly blame Chinawhich I dont disagree but never fault Trump and his cronies for anything|1 No he didnt they gave them as a precaution Did you read the article|0 That is an excellent example|1 Agreed x 100 People say I have nothing to worry about because Im in my thirties and healthy My mom and dad are in their late sixties My sister is pregnant Im a nurse in an oncology department A lot of people I care about are compromised or elderly Do these people not matter|1 Its not doctors doctors are awesome Its health insurance and pharmaceutical companies that deserve the hate for putting doctors in the position where saving a life becomes a monetary decision|1 I guess its just like When did the economics behind supply and demand become offensive Ever since people started getting off on virtue signalling They would rather feel good while causing more people to die from this disease as long as they dont know thats what they caused|0 It could be a side benefit of them giving a free service to encourage them to be generous in time of need Its not about corporate profit its about a corporation stepping in to help everyone If they happen to get exposure and profit then cool call it good karma|1 Wrong Fake news is a fabricated article under a fabricated banner intended to look like a real news organization This would just be an incorrect detail in a report by a real news organization|0 JEsus that is so fucking sad Poor guy really deserved better RIP|0 Your math makes no sense without context|0 Yeah not that I care because Corona virus is killed by alcohol and I have the booze package|0 Oh here we go Lets blame it on Obama He makes me wanna shit my pants|0 Thats a lot of words to try to justify causing a shortage instead of allowing prices to direct goods to where theyre needed most But hey dont worry about getting people killed|0 It took FOUR days to get a test It took that long for them to agree Imagine how pissed the healthcare providers are that cared for him because screw their health right Were so well prepared well just ignore it But hey USA|1 Name and shame This is insane|0 They only care about themselves and Power over other people|1 Your English is amazing I didnt take it AS serious until I read a story from Italy a week or two back Unfortunately in the United States I feel like a lot of people still think its a hoax or just the flu but maybe with more and more stories like this itll begin to resonate Thanks for sharing this|1 9 days ago as far as numbers of dead|0 SARS eh Do you bother to look up anything SARS killed 774 people worldwide from 2002 to 2004 The FLU in its easiest year in the US killed 12000 I am afraid the nativity is on your side|0 Did they miss the part where Chicken Little was right|0 Yep if you decide you are an essential business you should bear the cost for it not your employees who face it are probably being paid minimum wage|1 How are you getting anything done Ive been struggling with my toddler who was fascinated by my surface pro all day Its been exhausting|0 Swap around the low IQ group and the middling IQ group Ransacking a shop for 30 rolls of toilet paper is undeniably stupid but stocking up on a reasonable amount of food shows at least some awareness To be like the LowIQ group you need some self awareness The its just a flu brigade are utterly branded and devoid of any critical thinking skillsAlso the genetic code doesnt point to it being a chimera virus its just zoologic|0 This is absolutely meaningless Employees have to either be required by the government to be quarantined they arent doing that or actually have coronavirus and they arent testing most people for it They didnt even shut down the store where the sick employee worked and this policy wont apply to everyone that person worked with unless they get sick AND get tested And it says up to 2 weeks meaning they can and probably will pay them much less if at all Regarding unpaid leave Im not going to praise a company for allowing people to not work for free Thats ridiculous Theyre trying to cover their asses from a lawsuit and keep stock prices up thats it Its just a bunch of meaningless words disguised as corporate virtue|0 Exactly what we were accusing China of doing|0 I listened tooooo Thank you House has been prepared since Jan 30th Not over stocked but just enough for 60 days for two of us and if we dont use them all its going to food banks Its not the end of the world but its going to be a rough two months I donno why the US thinks two weeks are enough time to stop spread when they waited sooo long to react I have a feeling its gonna get much worse|0 Ahhh do you have it saved I personally really want to read it|1 I wanna jump on this train just to see if this is true If so Id like to dig in and learn a little more Anyone have links to any evidence|1 What surprises me are the high levels of smoking in minors|1 At my college I started doing classes online and my friends called me paranoid The next day we got an email saying all classes are moved online|1 This is the first first person experience I have read and its very helpful|1 I dont think that will help matters|1 But over the course of 3 years its not so bad How many people die of regular flue yearly|0 Stubborn swiss|0 Didnt the USA simply merge the two at first to gain the commy hatred and then dropped the communism leaving just the socialist|0 You really are all sorts of mixed up XD|1 UK seem to be alert and have a lot of contingency plans in place There are real economic consequences to closing down parts of the country which means isolationquarantine can only be temporary which also means that starting too early is not a good idea either Its hard to find the right timingIm just going to trust the professionals know more than my reddit ass does|0 Im not really keeping up on the Corona stuff but think you folks would know do antibiotics work If I get it can I just pop a zpack and feel better in a few days|1 My mixtape is fire|0 States are still only allowed to test if the patient has traveled to the CDCs definition of a high risk area if they were exposed to someone with coronavirus or if theyre hospitalized for an unknown and severe acute respiratory illnessThey still arent testing enough They should let doctors test whoever they feel they need to test|0 Fabulous |1 For sure Every other story involving our leaders or government organizations None of them have a clear message Its so scattered its embarrassing on multiple levelsWhether it blows up or fizzles this entire government entity needs to get it together with a clear message I think not being unified is half of whats fueling the media to over reportthey run everything into the ground but in this case theyre almost like the rest of us Picking up the pieces and churning out stories where they canTheres a guy I work with thats one of the another flu guys He wants to get it get over it and be done with it Hes in his 50s Its sometimes tough trying to inform people too So much information slamming us in the face Its hard to dissect and regurgitate it back|0 So you mean the Bible isnt always right See what I mean You yourself dont follow the Bible so then by their definition you arent a real Christian You are just trying to make an excuse because you think those people make you look bad or stupid and you want to disassociate with them but like I said they are no less Christian than you and actually this exact thing they are doing IS something taught in the Bible Funny thing right I went to school and learned and read the Bible and we took it how it was not twisting it to fit our personal agendas which made us not very good people Thats the problem with how you are seeing things you are twisting your religion for yourself and pretending like if anyone disagrees with how you see it they are fake which is wrong There are plenty of people I know who are of faith and are VERY good people iterations of Christianity mean people can still have a relationship with god but dont have to sacrifice so much because of what some book written by random men saysAlso its proven the Bible as we see it today is completely different than the original Bible because through history people changed it to fit their personal agendas btw this was proven by a group of Christian people and mistranslated beyond beliefAnd also they arent out of context so you want me to site exactly the verses I am talking about because I can lmao I have plenty|1 Lmaoooo nap dream|1 They are probably the lowestrisk nurses in the system though by virtue of being so young|1 Morticians would like to have a word with you|1 It was just a fuck|0 I remember the epic THE WANDERING EARTH was set during Chinese New Year And here comes real life trumping the movies Ok not quite Earth is still around|1 Dont blame the govt onlyAmericans are the real culprits and idiots Most of them still call it a hoax blame liberals its just the flu and will relect the current president|0 Im thinking ahead to the longterm situation assuming it eventually spreadsThe US has a huge population of seniors living in apartments and planned communities across the warmer states For example Arizonas Sun City and Sun City West are both 55 communities and they have over 60000 residents in total street after street of seniors living in individual houses Or think of Florida where 19 of the population is over 65 many living in condosThese seniors dont have nearby families to nurse them so what will happen if the virus sweeps through Is the CDC hoping to have families fly in to help but wouldnt that just spread the virus more Or will Medicare pay for nurses to visit daily but do we have enough nurses for this You see the problem To keep the hospitals in these states from being overwhelmed theyll need to take care of the highestrisk populations somehow Those of us with outofstate parents and grandparents would like to know if Medicare or the state health depts have a plan|1 Tie up a bulls balls and ride its back its safer|1 Is it possible he was purposely killed How does a healthy young man die from this virus Did he have preexisting conditions|0 Giving medical professionals misinformation about contact with Wuhan travellers when they are trying to accurately track the spread of the disease is selfish and foolish Id think that would be pretty obvious|0 I mean to be serious I dont think we need 200 some xray machines when 2 will do just fine normally But I think that its important to have the ability to greatly expand capacity in times of pandemics terror attacksacts of war or multiple casualty incidents|0 I can assure you none of the cars I am referring to from my office are leased They are all paid for with cash For sure there are a lot of people getting loans andor leases on cars they cant truly afford This doesnt make our country a shit hole though Europe isnt exempt from people making stupid decisions either A shit hole is where you cant browse the internet I have first hand knowledge of how restrictive the GFW is and are told what you can and cant say|0 Imagine you want to move your doctors into a nation The nation wont allow them to operate there if you talk smack about them|0 Hey thanks for your message Im glad it was encouraging I was actually in your boat a while ago I was a pretty staunch nihilist and floated around doing whatever I wanted that made me happy Turns out it fueled a pretty heavy alcohol addiction haha I went alcoholdrugfree when I was 27 turning 30 next month if Im alive lol Im glad youre already doing those things I hope you continue to just be free of those thoughts as much as possible one day at a time as they say If it makes you feel any better I do creative design work for a lot of early stage start ups prelaunch One in particular is bringing live athome wellness classes for people with specific diseases via app so those who cannot leave the house are still able to have community and thrive The way things are heading with the work Im doing since Im helping to start the NEW organizations of the world theres going to be a lot of accessibility and tailored technology to certain diseasesdisabilities though I hope you dont get one But maybe that info will lessen your anxiety Sending you good vibes and I hope the Life unfolds an amazing path in front of you and that you choose awesome things that continue to fill your life with joy adventure |1 Such a smart move Buying time now will be critical Best wishes to you and your crew|1 yes its the cousin of fuck you jack im alright called who the fuck do they think they are they aint no better than me so these sorts think if douchebag dave has a trolley of toilet paper and cleared the shelf of hand gels and dettol wipes its only there right to do the samebecause they arent anything special they aint no better than me|0 Lots of boomers really hate Trump|0 I can confirm this is exactly how its happening I had potential exposure and have had a serious cough and spent all yesterday being bounced around with no one ever committing to anything They wont even tell me to selfisolate because they said the CDC has prohibited them from telling people to do that without all the symptomsThis is all so fucked|0 Thanks I love prime numbers|1 I bit my nails for 34 years and now Im 2 months clear Clipping them is still something Im getting used to I sort of feel ya bro|1 Was that your first firearm purchase Because if not obviously you walked out in 45 minutesMy experience 10 days happened in California but CA is not the only state where it takes longCalifornia 10 days12httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote11444 District of Columbia 10 days13httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote12444 Florida 3 days or the time it takes to complete required background checks whichever occurs later14httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote13444 Hawaii 14 days15httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote14444 Illinois 24 hours for long guns 72 hours for handguns Will become 72 hours for all firearms effective Jun 1 201916httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote15444 Rhode Island 7 days17httpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawspolicyareasgunsaleswaitingperiodsfootnote16444Given that we do not know the info about the OP it is reasonable to assume she might be from one of the states where it would take 10 days|1 Please go back to your doctor with your EKG and other results and if your doctor does not give you satisfying answers about that go and get second opinion As I am only a medical student I am NOT qualified to offer you any advice on this but any time you are not satisfied with your medical care you should definitely get answers and seek explanation coronavirus or not I am sorry they dismissed your concerns|1 Why do you say the screening system isnt working We have not had many cases in Canada and we havent caught any random WTF cases with no international travel yet and they are ramping up our pathogen testing of viral pneumonia in hospitals before you start denying thisMany people arriving home from China in the past few weeks have been selfisolating at home for a couple weeks and to suggest otherwise simply is not true Health officials know that we havent caught everyone through screening because this is impossible We are lucky to live in Canada and its going to be the other countries that suddenly blow up before anyone knows like Iran and Italy that will end up having a domino effect on the rest of the world|0 Thanks Thats what I get for commenting at 3am lmao Sorry got it mixed up|1 This article doesnt really go into postrecovery issues I would like to see more recovered people of all age groups undergo xray or CT scans at 7 and 14 days after being cleared to see if there are lasting effects at verious age groups including similar testing for kids who tested positive without major symptoms|1 This isvery debatable to say the least Humans are fundamentally social animals We figured out a long time ago that the group is stronger than the individual Even if we devolved into pure tribal warfare this is still fundamentally social behavior in group out group|1 K12com is accepting students according to their webpage|1 Ah yes of course Its the kids making jokes about the whole thing to cope that are responsible Definitely not the countless Boomers who think its all a hoax and constantly belittle the younger generations Most MillennialsZoomers Ive seen are taking all the measures they can to prevent the spread of this disease often at the cost of their jobs and livelihoods meanwhile most older people I see are either thinking its all a hoax or have the its just a flu or the I absolutely have to go to work How am I going to pay for my vacation to Hawaii next year if I dont kind of mentalityStop trying to make it a generational thing Christ Eventually were going to get sick of the older generation giving us constant shit and actively voting against our best interest and just start coughing on yall accidentally on purpose Stop making your grandkids want to kill you off Talking shit and belittling a generation that literally has your lives in their hands and still expecting them to work for your best interest is peak Boomer mentality The level of entitlement and absolute arrogance on display here is nauseating|0 If you do go to a hospital CALL them first dont just show up If they and you are both not prepared you could infect the entire hospital and force all staff into quarantine Stay safe and hope you get better soon|1 I guarantee at least 1 baby born in the next couple of months will be named Corona or Covid because people are stupid|0 Lost god and trying to fill the voidnever had the pleasure of having god in my life maybe he can fix my problems and all other shit going on in the world Please we live in a universe with billions of star systems with billions of solar systems in each star system with probably lots of planets that contain intellectual lifethere is no god just people that make up storys to help them cope with what they cant handle I handle life alone just fine No god needed for that Wake up its 2020 not 500 BC anymore where we didnt understand where lightning came from and needed an explanation for itSorry for the rantreligion does that to me religion is why the world is such a bad place right now|1 People kept asking why they suspended not ended their campaigns and this is why they do that Those who have suspended could drop back in|0 I honestly dont know who or what to trust anymore|1 I feel like I saw a video of firefighter removing patients from the nursing home I dont recall any of them being in protective gear My memory could be wrong but|0 The best thing you can do with this administration is be prepared for the worse The truth is out there|1 everyones confident till a chinese man sneezes beside them|1 Keep your chin up and your head downDo you mean like hang upside down|1 Yeah China actually gave us a chance but damn did we screw it up pretty badly |0 He said he will try bring it up hes scared as people have gotten in trouble before for invading others privacy |0 Same here Im a die hard progressive but I will give credit where credit is due This is what leadership looks like When things are hard and you know you might face criticism you do the right thing no matter what and dont falter Hes listening to facts and science and putting the lives of the people here at priority 1 Good job DeWine|1 lmao she workin for trump now too smh|1 Consider this Many commonlyavailable masks dont filter outgoing exhaled air they just filter incoming inhaled air They have an airexhaust port that freely allows exhaled air to exit quickly and with no filtration So other people arent protected from an infected person|0 just doont wear your shoes inside your house like a normal human|1 Oh no is this sub going to turn into rTD|0 maybe it is because criticizing the Canadian government gets your account banned from just about every sub besides metacanada|0 Really goes to show how much of an impact the Chinese health system breaking down is having When you have just so many patients and limited manpower and resources to handle them theres gonna be a higher mortality|0 This is true but thats still less often than entering the pin every time|1 Im going to try whatI can but he doesnt have any breathing or obvious lung issues I know that Chinese covid cases had lower lung involvement that was different from typical pneumonia on CT scans|0 The US has done nothing close to early preparation In fact it has been extremely slow and the US will be hit very hard|0 Oh yeah sorry Thought it was a dig at TFL|1 First of all you can still be a carrier even if dont show grave symptoms and infect others near you who are worse than you and at riskCan people fucking stop with this moral posturing its practically becoming a meme at this point x200BWE KNOOOOOOOOOOW|0 Not so happy he jumped on the S and L strain bandwagon so quickly as there is plenty of criticism from other researchers Population genetics and phylogenetic analysis are not easily accessible subjects even for someone with a PhD in nursing Those of you with little or no education in molecular biology and genetics I urge to be skeptical when he starts explaining something he deems to be a bit sciencey There is a vast amount of crucial detail that gets filtered out to make easily digestible headlines for the nonspecialist public and it is what separates good research from bad None of us can know everything there is to know of course Other than that Dr C is a great source of more general and medical information|0 My love of fallout inspired me to make my own diy mask Managed to find a lot of other weird things Ive had for a while to get a nice set up that works better than nothing and should keep everyone the hell away from me the next time I need to be out for food|1 This He cannot be positive because in his mind thats a weakness he can never show weaknessI also dont believe this is his first test|0 Its already in the US Trump has no credibility Trust that he will lie until it blows up entirely US cities arent even testing for the most part Its probably already here in the hundreds or thousands|1 its worse thats underground in a subway so its uncirculated air in a smaller uncirculated container|0 The CDC recommends specimens be stored at 2C to 8C for up to 72 hours after collection meaning the virus can last that minimum time at that temp Further they advise that if the extraction from a specimen is delayed past 72 hours the specimen should be stored at 70 C so this is not a good assumption|0 doubt they kept count From earlier reports patients who died of viral pneumonia were immediately incinerated before a coronavirus test could be performed|0 Because people like to bitch and those who know the least bark the most at others especially when wanting to take the discussion away from the main topicCoViD means literally Corona Virus DiseaseEnough said|0 My 80yearold mum lives in central Italy in a place where there are no cases at all and my hubby and I were supposed to fly there this Saturday However I have cases in my area here in UK so the most ridiculously absurd part was that we had to cancel the whole thing because we were risking to bring it thereI wonder when countries will ban flights from UK because we are a mass of morons with the motto keep calm and die at home from coronavirus the management of this disease has been an eye opener in order to evaluate the sad state of our medical services in Italy they have tents with tests outside all the hospitalsHas anyone seen the news on the Guardian related to only 15 beds available in England for severe pulmonary illnesses|0 these canned responses are for foreigners its stupid to expect family to reply with the same thingalright genius is my family being threatened by the government or not|0 1 I think we need a straight answer here|1 Watched the news conference and couldnt BELIEVE they said that They claimed theyre being guided by the CDC but the CDC website makes it clear that while being infected by someone who is asymptomatic isnt the main method of transmission it is possible|0 or that itll mutate to something that kills people when they become older setting the mortality of humans to just 30 healthy years|0 Well Camacho IS in office at the moment|1 Please source your information These are not the stats I foundThere is a 12000 chance of developing cancer later in life from an abdominal CTscan Chest CTs present even far less risk Also its important to understand that you have a much greater chance of dying from cancer not related to radiation exposure or dying in a car accident Sourcehttpswwwhealthharvardedustayinghealthydoctscanscausecancer|0 No it does not work like that Even in Wuhan you cannot stop the contact between people totally And if there are contacts there are infections There are estimates that in Wuhan currently R0032httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1 It means the outbreak quickly slows but itll take many many generation to go to zero If you start with 10000 0328 x100001 With the serial interval of 5 days it takes 40 days to reduce the infection to 1 from 10000 And thats on top of isolating the infected|0 Well whats your government done for you This is a guy that could very easily ignore your country and help his own|1 Asking him about policy choices is a nasty question|0 America is number 1 Apparently we dont need to care about some silly virus|0 Yeah I dont understand it Im not a very altruistic person either but doesnt everyone know people in the atrisk group Parents Friends Grand parents|1 Yup Theres literally not going to be enough medical personnel to manage this Like not just ICU space ventECMO hospital personnel there literally wont be enough emergency responders This is gonna turn into a giant hospice zone Its gonna be a fucking nightmare|1 So a street market happening after they said no bars no restaurants no unnecessary contact doesnt have you worriedI was not at this street market This is not my photo But this photo gathered over a hundred and fifty love like and laugh reactions on the Facebook seasonaire page The point is there was a fucking STREET MARKET happening 24 hours after a mandated lockdown and no one gave a shit Thats why the president had to do what he did and lock the country down Everyone thinks its a joke|1 A few days ago I was like they wont change their minds until they have a loved one on a ventilatorBut now I realize nothing will change their minds|1 Flattening the curve at all costs is easy to explain and to sell to the crowd One just needs to invoke emotional arguments and to completely ignore the socioeconomic reality outside the curve as if one is dealing with the number of cases in a vacuum and the only thing one has to give up in return is several weeks at home watching Netflix This of course is as far from reality of the lockdown approach and its costs as it could be|0 Why is everyone want a test It is not a cure If you feel sick just stay at home and ride it out|0 Doctors in Macedonia take the same oath here my grandparents were both doctors grandpa died December 2018 at 93 Grandma March 2019 at 89 I believeThey were both exceptionally knowledgeable people spoke several foreign languages fluently kept up to date on medical advancements and info right until the very end grandpa despite almost completely having lost his eyesight from old age never stopped reading on his tabletWhen they were dying in the hospital they were both appalled at what had happened to Macedonias healthcare they almost killed a patient right in front of my grandpa and auntsalso was a great doctor but retired eyes by almost administering insulin when the patient didnt need insulin he couldve died if they did it fortunately my aunt stepped in and the patient woke up and said he shouldnt be getting insulin in his IVIt gets worse the nurse or doctor simply laughed it off and said she keeps mixing him and the other guy upDid the doctor or nurse get sued No because that stuff doesnt fly here unless you have strong political connections in our country connections are the only way to get ahead in life or get sufficient medical care most of the time|0 At those rates the whole world will be officially confirmed as infected within a monthYoure writing the trailer script for a future Roland Emmerich disaster film|0 Its the sympathetic and compassionate people that are ran over|1 I wish I could upvote this a million times|1 lol hospitals should make teams to reverse engineer equipment constantly why is something like a respirator not open source|1 And thats what I said too do you see a s No|0 Theres been periods of my life where I have effectively quarantined myself|1 no one in the western world thought that was needed at that timeIf only we had an organization that tracked and predicted pandemics we could have been readyOh right Trump fired them source including videohttpswwwindependentcouknewsworldamericasuspoliticscoronavirusvideotrumppandemicteamcut2018a9405191html Im a business person I dont like having thousands of people around when you dont need themIt turns out you dont know that you need to respond to something if you fire the people whose job it is to tell you that you need to respond to it|0 Fuck the CCP good sir good day|1 Wait deductible Do you mean health insurance deductible or do you mean your money is in a fund of some sort that youd need to basically destroy your savings to access the remaining 391|0 There are many ifs in your statement I wouldnt gamble that the virus is as benign as the common flu this early into the pandemic A local outbreak is already causing authorities to quarantine cities in South Korea and Italy preventing the free movement of people thus stifling economic growth This will likely last for months because the transmissibility of the virus is insane and its propensity to mutate into something better or worse is unknown|1 Hopefully they wont all need icu at the same time Still drastically short supply I know|1 I cant answer your questions but I just want to say this is an unprecedented time and whilst there is a lot of uncertainty right now we can only keep calm and keep going and I thank you for everything you do The NHS is what keeps this country together and even if the government dont show it we really do think it Were backing you and were all in this together|1 same here It is like NO ONE watches the news any more|0 I am going to have to find it but there is somewhere where the mayor said that bars would need to shutdown and a group of them responded with a letter saying that targeting a group of businesses is unconstitutional so unless they close ALL bars and restaurants they refuse to close Im going to see if I can find itEdit Found ithttpspopculturecomcountrymusic20200316kidrocknashvillebarrefusescloseamidcoronavirusconcernsmayormandateunconstitutional Its Nashville TN and they refused unless it was a state wide mandate|0 I think well lap Italy pretty quicklyyay|1 Sounds like you put yourself on the shit list by whiningJust post on FOS or Uncensored and theyll forget about you quickly|1 Hopefully it is not up to Trump or Pence to be in any way overseeing these being dispensed as Trump is intent on delaying and worsening this pandemic with every choice he has made I really hope its a totally out of their reach area that is in charge of this like the Red Cross and doctorshospitals|1 Edit Sorry it was from the original author Anyway I would guess most places are like my explanation belowThe standard residential apartment buildings in China have just one exit from the building anyway In China most residential buildings are in compounds sometimes as big as a whole block with tens of buildings These communities usually have a few gates with security control is probably done there not on buildings itselfIt also very common to have volunteer community watchers Not sure exactly how it works but you can always see an auntie with a Mao style red patch on the shoulder watching out what is going on even on normal times So they probably help out control and keep a watch|1 I have the exact same symptoms as whats being described here but my fever only came on Thursday night I went home and stayed home since then My fever keeps oscillating between 996 and 1006 I also have cough headache sore throat fatigue and no appetite Pretty damn scared right now Can you please tell me what the pneumonia felt like when it came on for you Did you feel sharp pains in your chest when breathing deeply Did it feel like doing normal household chores made you breathless|0 Crisis capitalism Maximize profits even if it means people die|0 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 Thats exactly right and why I get a flu shot every year Less for me though I am in a higher risk category mortality rates at my age are still next to nothing and more for herd immunity for those who would have a much higher risk of serious illness|0 I have also not been sick for years maybe 4 or 5 or so Im just 21 years old though 15 is quite a lot for me I live with my brother and my gf away from home however my little brother has also started coughing and he still lives at home with my not necessarily very healthy parents Lets hope our parents make it through this Have a speedy recovery|1 epoch time is a troll factory for fake antichina news|0 Funny Corona beer is the only beer I can actually stomach|1 The point is that the fish doesnt understand what youre doing The fish doesnt like the invisible wall|0 Im pretty sure a government will know the full extent of this and know its not just a flu its pure stupidity from the government Its like theres a conspiracy with lack of governments giving a shit to try spread it into a global outbreak|0 Here there confiscate goods from China with destination Swittzerlandhttpswwwderbundchschweizstandarddeutschlandblockiertsogarschweizerimporteausdrittstaatenstory21141347Here is the Austrian storyhttpswwwoe24atoesterreichpolitikLkwhaengtimZollDeutschebeschlagnahmenunsereSpitalsmasken421716011Regarding the Italy thing I give up google is a dumpster fire It was in the news sometime in the last few days|0 With these features you can have a great time playing just around your neighborhood and dont feel the need to travel to a popularcrowded area with lots of pokestops|1 As far as emails from the boss goes this is fineStay home for any reason whatsoever even if I personally disagree|0 Even thirdworlders dont casually stick metaltipped poles up their own ass Get an oral thermometer|0 The rich and beautiful always move to the front of the line|1 Also lead effects kids more than adults so you should be ok|1 As of yesterday hes gone missing according to his mother |0 Same with my own dad nonetheless He of all people being the most vulnerable out of anyone in my family and all I suggested was double his food stockpile from 2 weeks to one month and some ammunition because he can count on hunting to bring in more food should we be faced with extended lockdowns as well as the bonus that it would guarantee we can eliminate all social contact this way if need be I even told him I will gladly pay for as much of it as possible Somehow he thinks this reasonable precautionary measure which would only cost a few hundred equals panic buying 6 months of toilet paper and robbing every store and person in sight Unbelievably frustrating Im so sick of this just the flu attitude|0 Theres still no confirmation about immunity after recovery Typical cold coronavirus infections leave some limited immunity for a few weeks but nothing similar was found with SARS|0 Kind of a misleading title The virus doesnt feel like getting hit by a bomb He meant the influx of patients to the ICU was like a bomb|0 Ummmmmmmmmmm excuse me |1 So they will do 10000 tests on people who are already sick and have comorbidities and get a 1020 fatality rate while first world countries will do 100000 tests on all sorts of people who have been exposed and get a 13 fatality rate Yeah Well look real good|0 Luckily Norway is a social democracy No one is at risk of dying due to lack of healthcare coverage|0 Incorrect about the lack of press This one made the news The press just isnt asking why an ambulance was directed to drop a sick person off at a motel instead of a hospitalAs to why nobody is posting it on social media I cant explain that one httpswwwking5commobilearticlenewshealthcoronavirusfirstrespondersnotwarnedoftransportingseattlepatientwithpossiblecovid192817a43f14804a2442dba1106339ad1186cfbclidIwAR3KocLVGUyp2MSZk1tP4g49jKTdjMGRDQ7Gl3xzO3bsKqtazLEohplW5kIn another unusual move AMR dispatchers told the EMTs to take the patient to a specific motel in King County about an hour away from SeattleThat prompted the following written exchange obtained by the KING 5 InvestigatorsEMT Is this patient suspected of having a contagious infectionDispatcher YesEMT CoronavirusDispatcher Unknown|0 Hopefully they dont start askingexpecting you to supply them Most of our friendsfamily didnt listen to us when we warned them weeks ago and are now acting shocked about the bare shelves Im just waiting for that first text asking us if we could give them x product|0 You know because they use the exact phrasing of the president and they say it is a democrat hoax Good enough|1 Well in the US it seems to be extremely difficult to even find out if you are infected|0 Should I be worried is an impossible question to answer in a meaningful way Are you alive If so then you should prepare for the 100 probability that you are going to die at some pointI imagine what you really wanted to know is what fatality rate you would fall into should you become infected and get sick from this corona virus based on this papers findings And thats impossible to answer in any meaningful way eitherWhat this paper does is it starts to direct us toward a better and more nuanced understanding of how this disease might affect individuals based on other health and treatment factors But thats it In no way can it offer any meaningful information as to your personal individual likelihood of developing severe ARDS or of dying from COVID19 might be at some point in the future well have data that can begin to provide those answers but this isnt it|0 But a flu that has been around forever has infected more people s|0 Because the older you are the more likely you are to die from the virus which is a highrisk The age of Americans isnt distributed evenly Nor is the likelihood of infection across each demographic I think the 316 million is as find a estimate as most that Ive seen Im just some idiot crunching some basic numbers to get an idea of the bestcase situation and the best case would be 632000 deaths at the least Its not something to sneeze at|0 I work in UK public services so I guess I take it for granted But maaan USA workforce really needs to start unionising|1 Yes Ive been upset but were all human We need to work together to stop the spread and make more good news I agree though the news recently has made me more concerned But we will get through this trust me Before you know it itll be 2021 and youll be getting your vaccine|1 My mother in law is one of these Her husband has no spleen She watches a lot of the kids in the family Short of threatening her there isnt much choice with the muh Lent typeseta learning a lot about certain religious people during this React accordingly to the idiots and their sky daddy since mingling in groups is their priority|0 Its kind of sad when Apple you know the guys that produce at Foxconn is the new US standard for health care precautions Greetings from the Europe gang|1 ur right in that this doesnt seem to have a great effect on kids in general not sure why but this is in fact america The land where most people large populations have prediabetes the land where those with diabetes both 1 and 2 is extremly high and like any country we have heart disease and cardiovasiculaor problems across the countryIf high blood pressure is a true risk which i read it is were in big bigly troubleChildren may be carries of the virus to those that can suffer from it greatlyI didnt even mention how many elderely we have which is abolsutely HUGE This whole experience should be a wake up call to everyone death awaits around every corner and is watching you at all timesThis virus is brand new this grants no immunity to anybody Rich or poor the virus doesnt give a shit and its about to explode right here in the United States|1 Can confirm that Ive seen loose chickens running on Manhattan streets|0 Im totally rich baby Totally rich Send me your therapy bill dude I want to get you well lol|1 Ive come to the conclusion that capitalism is pretty good at managing most things but it turns lousy with anything that touches the public good and necessities So research priorities medicine medical care etc|1 Live free and make my elderly neighbors die Freedom pneumonia|1 Its just sad isnt it how money comes before peoples well being Sometimes I feel like some companies like ours dont want to speak to us about it incase some of us take advantage and not bother coming to work|1 Its fear mongering people like to panic and looking for conspiracies and some rumours when no one knows what is happening Its like religion in some ways|0 Okbut stillwithout basic testing giving any sort of reliable number of what were looking at how can they assign any such number If they arent going to test they need to keep the number determined from actual data surveys I read the first few pages of the WHO report They looked at three cases Provenceslooked at the connected cases maybe 3 or 4000 and the infection rate for two was really low 0 Something But the fourth it was 48 4 Something Pretty high So thats my point Without testing we shouldnt placate the populace Its like a lie If you dont know then at worst stay quiet not lie|1 Well thats a friendly response Good for you for using your big boy words|1 Devin Nunes yesterday Ugh|0 Yes thats exactly my point All trump does is ramble incoherently and tell lies Its already been posted to rpolitics and rnews where it mostly belongs so why also post it here It contains no information about the virus the spread of the virus the number of people tested the governments plans etc THOSE topics are relevant Trumps stupid opinions and dangerous misstatements are not|0 If other countries restricted travel like the US this virus would have been contained or the spread at least significantly reduced Im sorry this fact is inconvenient for you to admitThe comment I responded to was about borders The reason why the US has been slow at their internal response is not because they underestimated the virus but because their system is a regulatory and bureaucratic nightmare full of nonsensical red tape put in place by previous administrations|0 Good points|1 Thanks for that|1 If being late to the party is what you call doing something right then yeah|1 I think Im gonna reschedule it for next month I personally dont care but the rest of the fam is freaking out I was gonna spend all that credit on booze |0 they need to do international flight every time they want to buy insulin|1 Does Korea have an incompetent fucking man child thats in charge it Oh thats right no|0 Lmao|1 for some people it is a bunker situation thats their individualized plan like an 85 year old retired couple why not stock up and never come outside for 6 monthsyou need a lot of TP for that in terms of volume But 1 dish soap bottle will last a long time|1 Reddit are doing an excellent job with rCoronavirus|1 In the US here as well specifically the Western region My biggest fear went from catching the bug to losing paymy job I feel like america is handling this poorly|0 But Italy has the most developed health care system on the world|1 Big brains low key watch them grow into a big economy later on because they were the only ones who did this at the right time|0 Lol|1 Well this isnt ominous at all|1 Oh geez so ur saying Thanksgiving is not happening Good call|0 Hmmm NW Ohio farming with great school districtOak Harbor|1 I say we hand make them a few tinfoil hats|1 It wont happen for a Quiet Place 2 That movie has the potential to make 400 million I can only see these straight to ondemand things happening for mid budget films that dont have nearly as much potential|1 ok doomer|1 Thank you|1 Why does this stuff have to be so grainy What am I watching the Zapruder film or something I cant read a damned thing|1 Fuck Charter worst ISP I dont have them thankfully but they wont stop stuffing my mailbox with spam|0 My grandma is 85 shes in great shape no health issues Teaches 3 exercise classes lives with my parents My mom told her she should teach class for awhile And she got pissed at her said she can beat any virus shes healthy and not going to die to it So not only is that stupid my dad is high risk and she lives with them and my mom had to explain how bad that could beNot sure if shes still teaching but even the older people who are at risk are ignoring itMeanwhile my dad is having full on panic attacks reading everything about it He has alerts on his phone about local hospitals I feel so bad for him he works in the car business which is super shitty and would never shut down I think hes basically just sitting in his office at this point but he wants to stop working|0 elon is gonna be a super spreader|1 Gov just yells STATE OF EMERGENCY then goes inside for a bj scotch and purell rub down|0 On AmazondehttpsAmazonde the price for hand sanitizing fluid Sterillium has risen from 4 normal to 10 yesterday to 67 today for a bottle of 500ml 17ozMeanwhile on ebay they are paying 2025 per bottleEdit price just went up to 89 crazy|1 Tedros has a sketchy history covering up epidemics in his home country In addition the Ethiopian government he worked for has several accusations of committing human rights violations Ethiopia also has significant ties to China so theres a possibility of conflict of interest His history httpswwwnytimescom20170513healthcandidatewhodirectorgeneralethiopiacholeraoutbreakshtmlEthiopias ties to China httpswwwafricanewscom20190425chinaforgivesethiopiasinterestfreeloanspminbeijingforforum|0 As someone who just cancelled my Hawaii trip in a couple of weeks this post makes me feel better|1 I live 60 miles or so east of San Francisco and its basically empty in the streets I havent gone to the gym in awhile go grocery shopping at night when its very few people Sure pickings are slim but no crowds Whole milk is gone but found fat free milk But we have enough food to last awhile Dont need to buy water as we have a water filter installed in the sink My dad works at SFO but in maintenance for one of the majors His work station is off to the corner and hes a supervisor with minimal contact with other people Hes been on a medical going back on the 22nd but I think they get sent home soon after he reports to work The school district I work for is closed for a month but idk when they actually open back up Soon after the shelter in place was announced and we were told to not rush grocery stores People rushed them like the walking dead was imminent I guess the Joker in the Dark Knight was right people are only as good as the world allows them to be Its insanity fighting for toilet paper and whatever junk food they want to shove down their throats I dont want to be cynical and jaded but damn society is disappointing me No need to act like a pack of wild dogs|0 The stress of being inside for weeks on end as well as malnutrition and physicalmental atrophy is likely weakening their immune systems just enough that this virus better be 100 gone before anyone comes out Its probably the difference between a mild case and a severe one for anyone who is not taking care of themselves through this ordeal|0 I wish more people understood thisTheres a decent period of at least a few days when people are removed insanely contagious but have not yet developed symptoms Stay home when sick is not prevention it is afterthefact damage controlEdit here are some sources since this is a point of contention httpsredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgi2pifk5bqq4context1The bottom line is a clearly simply avoiding symptomatic people is not working and b almost all viruses have a period of shedding prior to being symptomatic during which time the infected person is contagious and it would be dumb to assume that this virus doesnt work like nearly all the rest of themEdit 2 this is also a relevant source from an epidemiologist on Joe Rogan httpsyoutubeE3URhJx0NSwt483|0 Thank you my friend across the pond I live in Kentucky and there are people still downplaying this on Facebook Its so sad|1 And yet people in Spain UK France and Germany are still not taking it seriously when Italy is right fucking next door|1 This is just great CDC kicks the can down to the states health departments meanwhile states dont have enough tests to test everyone because THE FIRST TESTS THE CDC GAVE THEM WERE BUNK So states have to triage in their own way and its staggering how few of these tests are available that take days to come backFauci on TV this morning saying it will be a week until a million or so new tests are available that only take hours for results You cant screw something up this bad on accident This is gross fucking negligenceEdit I think the CDC should be administering tests not just the states They should be leading the way Maybe they could set up federal testing facilities and idk maybe find a way to acquire cots and respirators before millions are in dire need Who voted and appointed these assholes|0 After the medical team reached the house of the womans parents her father a railway engineer refused to cooperate with us and lied that his daughter had left for Bengaluru But after the district magistrates intervention we were able to gain access to their house and took all the nine family members to the district hospital for screening This is insane Should be name and shamed|0 Yup I was looking forward to an amazing concert at the end of the month but already decided we wont be going Hopefully itll get cancelled and Ill get a refund but Id rather be out a 100|0 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiAdvancePassengerInformationSystemLift your own fingers not a hard ask right Heres the spoon feed Here ya go|1 Fuck this piece of shit asshole too little too late he could have been defending the world from this at the outset and instead was too busy sucking Chinas dick to speak up|0 In this case it means to not bother to treat properly elderly or patients who are already weak Or in other words to let them die if any problems arise|0 Wasnt sure It was a decent joke but bad timing and setting|0 Id keep them for home if you have dependents or people you live with Theyre more effective for keeping the virus from leaving your immediate area Especially if you cant contain yourself in one room|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on 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control these billionaires right|1 Your explainer skill stats are maxed out thanks so much for sharing It doesnt sound odd to me I fully understand just how complex this whole field of study is and in the long arc of history sense it seems that were somewhere between the bronze age and silver age of virology but the iron age wasnt all that long ago Virology certainly seems like it will be one of the fields that will see remarkable advancement over the course of our lifetimes kind of selffulfilling since its going to lead to somewhat longer lifetimesAs Ive pointed out to others before when SARS broke out we hadnt even completed the human genome project The pace were working on now is absolutely breakneck compared to SARS Moores Law distributed computing some time and a lot of dedicated scientists are a potent combinationThank you again for the background I get excited when folks like you get excited|1 Its extremely important|1 In Australia they tell everyone when someone with measles goes anywhere Because thats newsworthy enough to get people talking hey did you see someone with measles went to Chermside yesterday werent you there Oh Em Gee I was oh my god what if Ive got it but they know it wont cause a panic like telling the truth about this will|1 Im not asking a leading question or setting up a trap hereWhy are countries shutting borders if comparison to a nasty flu is apt Im legitimately trying to figure out how concerned I should be more about the global economy not myself personally|0 I tried to get people in the scientific community to care about a potential situation like this 20 years ago Nobody gave a flying fuck They still dont Even after a billion people die from this virus no one will change their behaviorThe gain of function biological weapons research will continue This wont be the last bioweapon to get loose I just hope we have synthetic bodies like in Ghost in the Shell or Battle Angel Alita by then|0 Im worried about my country going into lockdown before the game comes out|0 Youre a selfish asshole|0 Thats a good idea thanks|1 Sure but its still way more traditional than the US or especially EuropeReligion plays a bigger factor as well while more and more people in the west are atheists|1 Let me help with that More than yesterday isnt nearly good enough|1 So bizarre What do you stand to gain from that Pridefulness in ignorance Clout among your fellow disinformation cultists I think so differently from those people that I have trouble empathizing with them I cant even imagine that scenario|0 Ah right My bad|0 Everyone suffers from Normalcy Bias and it takes something to break them out of that I think as soon as its seriosi enough to do that it will be the whole country at once and well stay in and take this thing down with a collective spirt I can kinda see that happening from my family in Italy|0 We hope Our understanding of the exact mechanisms is not really certain|1 Its the USA we dont need to make up justifications they are rich so they get better care Nothing else to it|1 i mean lets be honest here this type of stuff is a given when you are building at such a a quick pace and its still better than not having the hospital at all its pretty much the exact type of thing people are discussing above how they have no oversight and can just build as fast as they can|1 You are wrong httpswwwbbccomnewshealth51386894|0 Describe mild symptoms are we talking a regular cold maybe a flu Or does mild mean realy bad but you dont need oxygen or a ventilator yet|0 No that would be socialism s|0 Were very very close to that moment when the world realizes that all the social media leaks and rumors out of Wuhan were true all along and that China has successfully fooled the world into complacency|1 Happy to help|1 My company is only allowing people to work from home if theyre sick caring for someone whos sick or their kids school closes I mentioned to my manager that my husbands been sick for 2 days but doesnt meet the current criteria to get tested Hes been coughing pretty bad since midday yesterday He also doesnt want to take a test away from someone who is even sicker Her response was well yeah colds have been running around I had one a few weeks ago too I told her no thats not even the issue Hes already sick we dont know if its Covid19 and even if its not that doesnt make it better Already having a stressed immune and respiratory system and then also being exposed to Covid19 could be really serious for him A family tested positive this week just a few miles from where we liveAll they keep saying is that nobodys tested positive at our company No mention of how many people at the company have been tested|0 This is more likely but isnt as close to being as exclusive as yourre making it out to be I run into tons of Japanese and Canadian folks that give their hometown Theres actually much more to this than one reasonThe default answer people give often depends on identity For example if someone says theyre from the Bronx instead of NYC its because thats how people around them identify themselves an establish their sense of unity If youre from Vancouver or Victoria BC you give your city when youre in Seattle because thats relevant information Young people from Toronto are also pretty adamant about giving their city name as of recently and thats usually more about prideI actually think its selfentitled and culturally intolerant to just expect everyone to automatically answer the way you prefer Normal adults just ask more specific questions when they face answers that arent in the scope that they initially wanted Its easy to follow up with what country or what city I find that hearing city first is a learning experience if I dont know it|1 I needed to read this Thank you|1 Better safe than sorry I guess|1 I really feel that every time our President USA comes on to talk about Covid19 and MENTIONS THE ECONOMY OR THE STOCK MARKET at the same time hes not really focused on the fact that real people some of whom undoubtedly voted for him are going to LIVE OR DIE because of the decisions that he has made and the pronouncements hes put forth|0 Hey part of what I dislike about politicians is their failure to judge and act based on the facts and whats right in the current situation vs whats right politically So by that same measure I wont hold back in agreeing with someone because of their political viewsI dont want people to think I judge Trump arbitrarily I judge each and every one of his actions very carefully and just more often than not come to the same conclusion that hes not worthy of his position I have no qualms scrutinizing him and finding out hes acting reasonably Its just that it happens so rarely|0 EXACTLY I live in Taiwan and there was panic about masks running out and guess what They ran out and must now be rationed Someone spread a rumor that masks use the same materials as toilet paper and that increased mask production would cause a TP shortage Its not true but people believed it an bought out all the toilet paper in the following days Mass panic and stockpiling is not a good thing|0 Its excellent that you were afforded the opportunity to survive without work for 15 years while you retrained your skills Most people cant afford 15 hours docked from their check each week without the electric or water going off losing their healthcare house or carYou are right about one thing complaining doesnt help Voting does Vote for corporate welfare and improved shareholder value or vote for human welfare and give people the opportunity to retrain themselves and not lose everything in the process|1 Yes But different name same company|1 Your post has been removed because of a persistent pattern of behaviorThis may include but is not limited to Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing way|1 Thanks for posting that While it is lengthy it lacks specifics in the extreme No real protocols to follow but rather the answer to everything seems to be develop a plan|1 Offices are a vipers pit for infections even without dubious personal hygiene When I worked in offices I had colds 23 times a year Ive worked at home for 7 years now and had maybe 1 very minor cold in all that time If you have modern efficient airconditioning in your office that is far more likely to spread the virus like wildfire|1 america plays dirty right vietnam still beat them though|0 Player two has enteredFYI Quarantine camps have been rebranded Holiday CampsClose contact was informally defined link and quote below as those sitting in the same row the two rows in front and the two rows behind the symptomatic person For the sake of easy numbering will go with each rows containing five seats According to the above definition 24 people would be sent to a camp The 25th being the symptomatic patient would go to a treatment centerChina coronavirus death toll almost doubles in one day as Hong Kong reports its first two caseshttpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3047193chinacoronavirusfirstcaseconfirmedhongkong The Director of Health Dr Constance Chan Honyee said people in close contact with the patient would be sent to quarantine camps Generally speaking those sitting in the same row and the two rows in front and behind will be regarded as in close contact she said|1 These goddamn zoomers|0 I read this as Thank god Im the King of Prussia which was humorous |1 its good to hear that people are coming together during situations like this hopefully this is enough to end this before it ramps up anymore|1 I just started crying today Im so sorry you feel this way Its really not a good way to spend the days especially consistently for weeks on end Wishing you well|0 I always vote for the best chance Problem is we dont have more than a handful of people in power with an FDR mindset right now and it takes a lot of civicminded officials all at once to make real change actually happen and stay thereAnd yes Im invoking the Great Depression Presidency on purpose|1 Being overworked and stressed can fuck up your immune system I had also read somewhere on here that being repeatedly exposed to the virus like a doctor would be can make it more severe but I cant find a whole lot confirming that so it could be false|0 From our garden here in Nyon I can see there are more young people out and about than usual since schools are closed My friends keep reaching out wanting to make dinner plans go out to bars As long as they are open I dont think people are understanding how serious things are getting|1 Evacuated my NYC college earlier this week and packed like id be gone for the semester but still wondering when theyre going to let us move out the rest of out stuff I left a few important personal items mostly artwork but at the end of the day if i lose them its alright|1 We have to make sure it works and doesnt have any side effects First you start with a small trial Then a bigger trial Then an even bigger trial And each time you monitor them for their progress and if any side effects happen which can take 6 months or longer If people start dying then they would definitely reconsider the vaccine and try something elseImagine if we were to just develop the vaccine and give it to everyone and it eradicates the virus But then it turns out the vaccine gives everyone a heart attack 6 months later Not very ethical|1 Thank you for sharing this story So glad he is getting better now It is very unfortunate that you had to go through this|1 locked for politics this is why we cannot have nice discussions|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfgtb3mchinesepresidentxijinpengsitsaloneinanfk6t3ivcontext3 was automatically removed because it linked to a website that is especially unreliable and that may promote disinformationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 fucking sweet traffic though home before dinner|1 My favourite retort to being labeled a conspiracy theorist is to call the other person a coincidence theorist We both analyzed the best available information we had access to and built a theory on it|1 I agree but I doubt the response will be enough|0 Aunt and uncle in Wuhan when the city was Locke d down bruh look this is like a movie and we are witnessing History|1 Hmm I live in Australia and I got a random free 50gb of mobile data the other day HmmmmmmIt is mobile data though|1 Well thats March madness|0 Flying coronavirus class Photos of American Diamond Princess passengers flight from hellhttpsnypostcom20200222flyingcoronavirusclassphotosofamericansflightfromhellhttpsnypostcom20200222flyingcoronavirusclassphotosofamericansflightfromhellx200BCoronavirusstricken cruise ship passengers returned to US against CDC advicehttpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtmlhttpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtmlCDC officials however warned against evacuating the infected due to concerns over reexposing healthy passengers to the virus When State Department and administration officials decided to go through with the evacuation the CDCs principal deputy director Anne Schuchat requested not to be included in the news release announcing the decisionhttpswwwstategovjointstatementbyusdepartmentofstateandusdepartmentofhealthandhumanservicesonrepatriationofamericanpassengersfromthediamondprincesscruiseshipx200BTrump Has Sabotaged Americas Coronavirus Responsehttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponsehttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponseAs it improvises its way through a public health crisis the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemicFor the United States the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable In 2018 the Trump administration fired the governments entire pandemic response chain of command including the White House management infrastructure In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the US government the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response the White House urgently needs to clarify what it isnot just for the public but for the government itself which largely finds itself in the dark|0 Its good news However they said the test needs to be checked 23 times as it does not always show the right results|1 May be sarcasm Cant express my feelings in words Scared for all the kids in the world|0 Its a denslypopulated space and there might be plumbing ventilation or other defects that would allow the disease to spread from cabin to cabinThe humane thing to do is to get them off the ship into landbased quarantine|0 Im sure investment bankers will get a few too|1 Thanks for the suggestion I can start putting a line chart like that together but its a bit too early to show much until we have detected community transmission but might as well start|1 Retirement Homes maybe but in terms of concentration of people nursing homes are most definitely not for the wealthy and are usually where the most at risk elderly live|0 Change death rate to case fatality rate The actual infected fatality rate will be lower since 50 of people show no symptoms|0 Considering the number of people and the fact they were from all over the world Id guess it was statistically impossible not to have a carrier there|1 Chinese are PATHOLOGICAL liars NEVER trust anything coming out of China|0 I feel that washing hands and not touching your face is likely the reason for that In a lecture yesterday we did point out that if a mask keeps you from touching your face fine but fully understand how to use them and properly dispose of them|1 We are living in the weirdest simulation right now Seems like he is so hell bent on proving how strong capitalism can be and how powerful it can be leveraged that he fails to actually realize we are being out paced by socialized medicine by leaps and bounds|0 I totally agree with you The government really needs to step up on the awareness campaign though The amount of people I see that think its just another flucold is shocking Add that to the fact that people are not that hygienic makes for easy spreading I accepted the fact that I will probably catch it and I will probably loose family members to it Its pretty damned depressing to be honest with you|1 I had a chat with my landlady today Luckily she is really fair and I stopped shitting my pants Basically if she gets affected and she needs to claim the mortgage freeze then I will automatically get a reduction in rent and if I get sick or my work will close for X weeks then I dont have to worry and I can have a month or two for free until I get back on my feet In short she would rather keep me as a long term tenant than kick me out for the sake of onemonth rent money I feel super lucky having landlady with that attitude|1 That sounds pretty surprising honestly|1 Cool photos Which camera|1 Everyone think I am crazy and over reacting but all it takes is for one person who has been in contact with the virus to come into the shop and sneeze or touch the front counter They can simply breathe it takes about 15 seconds of speaking according to the Chinese CDCCould you request your colleague to wear a surgical mask|0 Thank you so much for your thanks and for reacting like a true person of science That is precisely how I would react if confronted with a fistful of journal articles Its comforting to see that kind of reaction|1 Serious question did they consider it to be mild Not the rash but all the symptoms|1 Nobodys healthcare system expects a regular need for that many ICU beds Its unfeasable to maintain and bites you in the ass when you need it but invariably dont have it|0 Profit vs expenses Same as another business|1 I wouldnt be surprised if stores start barring returns for a lot of items for a while People are going far too overboard with stocking up Having things on hand for 12 months is reasonable IMO the people wheeling out 34 carts packed full of shit are ridiculous Some lady bought like 20 jars of peanut butter and probably 1012 of those huge packs of ramen noodles the other day at work No one needs that much unless youre planning for the fucking apocalypse and this aint that|0 Its not too late to buy a cheap bidet Your ass will thank you|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy 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people who have not been proven to be sick That IS being an a hole to others|0 Yeah Ive got bad news for you her eat Catania we had 3 profs test positive after they came back from bergamo|1 Well Tom Hanks just caught it so|1 The supply chain will cause some serious economic problems but I dont see any reason why you would run out of food If your insurance gives you a 90 supply of meds Id consider that But any drug can be produced here worst case India Pharma factories shut down the government could nationalize the US pharmaceutical companies and force them to make meds and charge generic prices for Brand name products Aside from that the economy is a concern but I think its more like the Apple store has no new iPhones Terrible for the market but not an existential problem|0 Not who you replied to but I just posted this elsewhereSevere cases were slightly more abundant among this younger demographic Of the 163 severe cases reported in the study 41 percent were young adults 31 percent were aged 50 to 64 and 27 percent were above 65 The only age group spared by severe COVID19 appeared to be kids under 14httpswwwnationalgeographiccoukscienceandtechnology202003theseunderlyingconditionsmakecoronavirusmoresevereandtheyre|0 How is it government mandated when he is just refusing to go|0 Before beginning a phase I vaccine trial study organizers must identify an appropriate test site or sites recruit and obtain consent from participants who are a good fit for the study ensure trained staff are available safety measures are in place and prepare the appropriate paperwork to receive permission to perform the studies Organizing all of these supports individuals and paperwork can be timeconsuming but it is also important to ensure that studies are conducted in an organized ethical manner that preserves the safety of participants For a quick overview of clinical trials we recommend this article from the Wellcome Genome CampushttpswwwlabxchangeorglibraryitemslbLabXchangec3ea1299html1 For more information on the vaccine testing and approval process we recommend this article from the CDChttpswwwcdcgovvaccinesbasicstestapprovehtml|1 would love to if I could get an invite|1 Morons in charge of both districts are still requiring teachers to come into work during closures so its not like itll change much One teacher has it there goes a whole school worth of faculty and administrators With many veteran teachers in vulnerable age ranges and several of my family members teachers this has me worried sick The chances of it not spreading amongst teachers is slim to none|0 Do I even need to read it I bet its bad Dont worry Australia is actually not doing much better than you guys Our prime minister is a fucking moron who wasnt taking it seriously either|0 To be far the Coronavirus is one of those things that develop over time with no real significant updates not ti say there could be any People have just lost interest|1 I started social distancing and stopped going out to eat over a month ago Any day now Im not going in to work anymore I wish Canadians would start to take this as serious as it is|1 This a serious situation but Ill be dammed if that font isnt eyecatching|0 And thats the way they like it Lower numbers baby Because once the number is out there theres no taking it back|0 My country Sweden went from 1 isolated case to 5 today and our neighboring countries has started to report infected people aswell|0 Damn Hope shes okay|1 68 are critical condition that means respirator severe pneumonia often multiple organ failure Many severe cases also require a respirator|0 You can leave butter out for like 2 weeks you just want to keep it covered|1 Even so why lie All youre doing is putting the rest of the international community at risk They arent even sharing what they know about the disease with others I think youre being naive about this Chinese government they dont give a fuck about their people and giving accurate numbers is the least of it|0 Democrats work so damn hard to make the whole world infected s|0 Yeah same here so its gonna be rough just eating pantry food and carbs for a couple months if this doesnt turn out as bad|0 The way coronavirus tests are being done is called a test of cure a patient gets tested repeatedly until they consistently show negative results This is also the way TB patients get tested before they can be released from isolation Wroblewski said This kind of testing is more difficult than say a more clearcut flu test especially when its being done for an emerging infectious disease whose behavior is still a bit of a mystery Normally when you test someone for flu its diagnostic if its negative its negative she said Youre not going to get these serial tests to get cleared When youre in containment phase and youre trying to isolate people who might be transmitting the virus youre using diagnostic tests very differently than you do under normal circumstances Its challenging I think the title of the article is misleading and sensational since the amount of tests available isnt very large If this is the way medical personnel need to test for the virus lead with this information|0 What should the Korean government have done Why should anyone blame them|0 Guam made this an order as well today All gatherings of over 100 are banned until further notice We dont even have any cases yet|0 A while I was telling people that the real death rate for the virus is about 15 according to the spiked numbers from Chinese tencent website but people were saying its way too high Hopefully now people will realise how much BS theyre being fed by the CCP For clarification about this incident heres a little recapOn Feburary the 1th the confirmed casesnumber of deaths shown on the Chinese website Tencent would spike for a few minutes before they were replaced with the normal statistic released by the CCP It is widely suspected that the spiked statistics were showing the real statistic that CCP was trying to hideThe statistic was as followThe total number of confirmed cases nation wide 154023Suspected cases 79808Cured patients 269Number of death 24589The statistic next dayNation wide cases 14446Suspected cases 19544Cured patients 351Number of death 304httpsnewscnyescomnewsid4439119httpsnewscnyescomnewsid4439119 This is the relevant report of it Do note that this type of news is usually considered Biased as they are reported by Taiwan based news So right now its just a rumourJust like the virus was a rumour back in January|0 RIP Dr Giura the world needs more people like you|1 Short answer yes|1 I had the same thought It will be interesting to see how long people can tell themselves this is a liberal hoax when people they trust and love are in the hospital Or when theyre getting sick themselves and people are telling them its all fake news meant to make Trump look bad|0 So he is profiting of something that helps people To the pit with him11 s|1 I still have trust issues from when the EPA lied about the post 911 air quality|1 Now I could totally be wrong on this In fact I would appreciate if anyone could point out flaws in my logicBut if 2503 are dead and the actual death rate is measured to be around 085 Those are the numbers from South Korea who tests more people and are more accurate Of course Italy has a higher old populationSo super rough estimate Korea has 14 over 65 and Italy has 22 over 65 Adjusting for age based on over 65 being 93 double some of the highest recent estimates This favors the estimate to lower amount infected yet youll see my number is still insanely high gives me a 146 death rate for Italy This is all done roughly but its within the realm of reason so Ill continueSo at that death rate and 2503 deceased so far that means 171400 should have COVID19 But it takes about 2 8 weeks to die from COVID19 so that means these numbers are behind several weeks Which means the infected could actually be in the millions Just for Italy Please point out a flaw in my math there must be one|0 F in chat for conspiracy theorist man|0 No and not until they are completely cleared Even then they might go to the quarantine they have in Texas|0 lmfao so Italy for example which is in lockdown that will inevitably hurt their economy is doing this just to help the democrats plot against Trump yep makes perfect sense every country just got together and decided they hate Trump that much theyre willing to cripple their economy and kill their own citizens|0 Honestly we should see in the data next 2 weeks if containment has failed or succeeded in China exHubei|1 It would mean the sharks suddenly could roam free on land and it will be really deadlyTotally looking forward to that in the next Sharknado|1 I think what OP is drawing attention to is that the first option isHuman Coronavirus and the link for it discusses pandemic preparation Many believe a pandemic should have been declared already but it has not so its interesting that the CDCs website has this information on the link|0 My husband got called a panicking idiot by my step daughters bio mom when we told her she couldnt take our step daughter to another county with many confirmed cases for an 18 year olds birthday party In her words no one she knows would have thatOh well we are so sorry we want to be sensible about a serious topic|0 Agreed Its like getting through 911 quickly Were still living in the shadow of that day and this could be even worse The past isnt dead It isnt even past|1 Thank you |1 No they didnt The mistranslation was caused when people thought it would be a legit murder charge and then an Italian speaker went in the thread and clarified that its closer to negligent manslaughter|0 I hope all goes well Sounds like a difficult situation How are you keeping yourself from boredom Id go crazy|1 Literally the right thing right after the Super Tuesday results|1 Yeah I just left that sub to come here 100 fuck that shitty ass sub|0 Well this is good we never know when an disease outbreak war natural disaster or crisis will happen so its good to have a stock of useful items Since 6 months ago I started filling some SSDs computer storage with terabytes of useful information and some entertainment survivalism farming home delivery electrical stuff sites and the whole content of specific YouTube channels there are software that allow us download websites and access them offline I also have some solar cells that always help me recharging my notebook and smartphone during black outs My water supply wouldnt last 1 month but there is a river behind my backyard and I have some land available to farm I live in an area with a lot of forested mountains with some wild animals boars capybaras edible frogs and have already eaten them because my uncles and cousins are into huntingI dont think coronavirus will reach my region hopefully it will be controlled soon But I like to be ready for any unexpected events as well|1 Ok who shit my pants|0 China essentially used a social nuclear weapon to contain it Trumps telling sick people to keep going into work Thats why its not being contained|0 Wheres the surprised pikachu face meme when you need it|1 oh god i need to look up your governor this will be entertaining|1 Great news I hope every store starts doing it Senior citizens are the most vulnerable and the most scared right now|1 Same at Oldham hospital video from a taxis dash cam but date unconfirmed though it was circulating yesterday|0 Pitchforks ready|1 How many things were rumors before that have been confirmedThe army wouldnt take over a major Chinese City Except they did and it doesnt exactly look like they prevented any deaths arguably it looks like they caused severalThose trucks that officially werent there until they did and we STILL dont have a 100 answer on what they sprayPeople being welded into their appartments dragged to quarantine camps and shoved into boxesThe capital of China is under curfew FFS And of course curfew is somehow different than quarantineThere are videos of people just dropping dead in the streets too many videos to think they would somehow all be faked|0 I am fairly comfortable as long as Dr Fauci is in the room What I fear is that he will be fired after he defies orders of silenceThe Sunday show cancellationshttpsthehillcomhomenewsmedia485147repgaramendinihdirectorfaucicancelledonfivesundaytalkshowsafter are worrisome but if it can wait until Sunday morning it cant be anything groundbreakingthats Dr Faucis judgement Im trusting here What would be truly awful is if Dr Fauci wants to release an immediate statement and the administration delays or blocks it entirely I just hope to God that somebody who has the presidents ear can explain to him that the most politically beneficial thing he can do is clear the way for experts Whatever it takes to get through to him|1 Yep Pretty sure this epidemic is going to kill his campaign|1 My office just sent an email that there are no plans for the office to close Our courts are open for business|0 Also people dont get better on their own The virus stays with then until they die or are cured Thats why coronavirus comes with the reinfection trait This way it simulates those two effects in a real world setting|0 Seriously fuck China and fuck anyone who gets fooled by their propagandaIf there is a good side to all of this its that countries might consider moving their production to other out of there but who am I kidding most of them will stay in China because it will still be the cheapest option|0 Some kids in NYC get their freereduced breakfast and lunch everyday Some kids are safer at the schools then at home While we need to close schools remember the circumstancesEdit Source httpswwwnyskwicorggetdataindicatornarrativedetailscfmnumIndicatorID31|1 Yep |1 Spain is only testing hospitalized sick people Theres no way for almost anyone to get tested if you have mild symptoms|0 I would only add that theres a window of time that people will take social distancing seriously If begun too early apathy sets in alternative groupings of children will erupt invariably and when parents return to work since long absences from work are unsustainable for most people those children will go with Grandparents compounding the problem since theyre most at risk Its too early now from what what we can tell were a couple weeks ahead of pandemic Washington state by all means theyre there But Ohio isnt and it isnt reasonable to expect long term compliance with social distancing and children Lastly why isnt this coordinated with NIH and CDC|0 There is this tendency here to blame China for the virus It feels like blaming San Francisco for earthquakesOne can criticize the way China handles the outbreak until you get compare how everyone else is handling it|0 This over 70s thing is fucking me up my Nan is in her 80s she is extremely high risk and cant get about much do we not go over and help her Do we pass her shopping through the window How is she going to clean her flat alone I am honestly so worried about what will happen to her if she is left alone my mum goes to hers everyday to help but she cant live with her for the whole isolation phase because she has other people high risk that she has to take care of and everyone else has young children This is more of a vent than a question but if anyone has any ideas then I would gladly listen|1 They are balancing the negative effect on the economy versus overwhelming the NHS with too many people being admitted to hospital at once If everything but the essential services closed the economy would be destroyed immediately and its not necessary|0 Exactly That was a bit sensational to add when there is no possible way to have studied it longterm|0 Good news Hope my uni do the same|1 I am not really scared for me or my husband or my kids I am scared for my 69 year old mother or my Stepfather that is over 70 with COPD They wont survive this|1 God please let Michigan be next Every friend or relative I have who doesnt work in healthcare is in the service industry Theyre all miserable want to self isolate but have to work its just a mess|0 Didnt know they were in Asia Im bad at geography|0 Precisely So hopefully young people wont be willynilly about this But we shouldnt induce panic attacks either|1 More are dying than are recovering as of the latest dataYeah Im going to need to see that source please|1 Yikes Thanks for the info|1 horrible accurate analogy|0 Been trying to work this angle as will Will be reaching out to our FOP president tomorrow|1 This this be known as one of the biggest super spreader events in the US|1 Hes one of the good one Damn|1 I mean if everything stay crazy it will be the new normal|0 We only just this past week had our first confirmed case in my county in Florida travel related and has been quarantined since arriving home and school has been closed spring break started early and is as of right now had an extra week added on With just ONE travel related case in our county No idea what NY is doing|0 Am a historian can confirm the narrative in a few months to years will be we couldnt do anything we werent prepared no one knew it would sweep this fast USA government was hamstrung or fed wrong information for some reason and for 20 years what a tragedy and then when revisionist historians come they are gonna rip apart governments and organizations for how FUBAR they let the situation getLook at any Vietnam or Cold War revisionist history It wasnt about the soldiers but as you said its about maintaining that bigger picture fighting communism for not much gain|0 This is the problem I have with this report Its from Feb 24th Wheres the followup the peer review the reams of additional evidence This study is based on a single case Thats not nearly good enough to draw a conclusion of such importance from|0 Right Interesting came across this x200B httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed25356537httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed25356537|1 Its just a melt blown material sounds just like all the other n95 masks also no need to wash these masks when 80C will kill the virus Washing wont kill some bacterial spores so what we really need is an autoclavable mask totally doable|0 Thanks Sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share thisAlso dammit I thought I was in for something totally ignorant and cringeworthy but I was pleasantly surprised Maybe Im the ignorant and cringeworthy idiot here|1 Why would you frequent a subreddit for your city One reason would be to follow up on local news but for some local patriotism is all they have These people are often lonely and need an inflated identity from fairly meaningless trivia such as where they live and what sports team plays there These people can quickly drown out any neutral news aggregate and the subreddit turns toxic|0 My wife said the same thing tonight She was pregnant with our first back in the Zika days Now shes six months pregnant with our second Its overwhelming for us from an anxiety perspective Im the only one leaving the house Im going like 30 minutes before stores close late night to buy groceries and stuff Good luck|1 I did not know this cash it is Sorry about your asshole boss|0 WHO has 5 tests that have worked fine around the world the United States refused to use themThe US test cost 3000 dollars without insurance|1 This would be lifechanging for my family during this time I hope Trump listens |1 Its not homelessness its a lack of food Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck so they dont have what it takes to hunker down with a couple months worth of food|1 Seriously so disrespectful|0 The German newspaper Die Welt confirmed by the German Health Ministry reports that Trump tried to bribe German scientists to give him exclusive rights to a vaccine that is under development He wanted it for the US only|0 Well the dead cant be reinfected by it|0 Hospitals cost too much lol|1 Fever wharsh dry cough and NO sinus issues is what youre supposed to look out for Maybe one of your should at least get tested|0 Its just mind blowing how many people dont seem to grasp this We cant see things we refuse to look for|0 Holy shit his entire team didnt even know the gender of the first American victim They couldnt even verify that and get that right And this team is the one Trump picked to fight the pandemicWe are fucked Truly and totally fucked|0 China is ground zero If people from China travel to other countries theres a risk the virus is transmitted If stating a fact is xenophobic then youre mentally ill Anyway have fun in Singapore|0 If youre laying in bed dying of the flu it sure would help with recovery|1 This is what we really need right now Being able to quickly and inexpensively test everyone with the mildest symptom or hunch can help our leaders see some scary infection rate numbers and maybe then maybe then they will take their heads out of the sand and act|0 The Catholic Church has never taught the type of faith healing you see in American evangelicals In fact the Catholic Church is the largest provider of free healthcare in the world and was instrumental in creating many of the health practices we have today|1 Thats still at least 15 of infected needing hospitalization which is nuts People need to spend less fucking time focusing just on the current mortality rate Once hospitals get fucked the mortality rate is gonna climb|0 I am starting to think the ones who have had flu in the past or had flu vaccines people like me could be in more dangerFor some reason it seems that the immune system attacks the organs and that is why they have to use HIV drugsOFC I am not an expert and the chances of me being wrong is more than being right|0 It will definitely be a logical domino effect There is no way around it when as for a crop the seeds are not planted even worse when there are no seeds I have been telling some Friends that if today they needed anything Made in China to buy it now Could be anything Parts a needed gizmo whatever as the supplies are going to dry out The repercussions can be intense starting with retail stores such as Walmart Best Buy you name it I am 74 single own my little house car and I really dont foresee needing anything but it will happen sooner or later and I will be stuck as many will be Eventually however as I feel that the 1 as I call them will not allow Life to take away their fortunes amassed they will be a rapid recovery with overtime throughout the many workers which supply us goods as this virus will move on to the back burner as many other viruses have That is just the path of todays World All this might be very naive on my end just my humble thoughts|0 Having insurance doesnt mean you can afford to use it much less that youll choose to use it to see a doctor for common cold symptoms The US insurance system with its deductibles and copays is intentionally designed to discourage people from overutilization of healthcare resources under the misguided belief that avoidingdelaying care saves money|1 seems i missed the party from it begining i really wonder what was going on |1 God i hate people who lick finger to touch any thing Its gross and disgusting|0 Last one was just for the seasonal flu test Anecdotally I heard the CDC wasnt charging now|0 Yes their numbers are probably more reflective of whats actually been going in the rest of the world|1 To add to his response a mucus plug could cause a drop in O2 and atelectaisE Oops I skimmed through quickly he did mention that|0 The question is how long is a person like that infectious Because not all of those diseases are infectious when detectible|1 Thats the idea But you can only control youself What I did was buy 100 masks put them on my desk at work And anyone who ask or complains about me wearing them I explain its not about fear of catching but of concern of spreading it Then I let them know yes I did bring enough for everyone and if they like grab one from my desk|1 They seem pretty documented to me|1 When pronhub saw this they gave them pornhub premium for free|1 As a European currently in China this does not ring true to me China has a lot going for it but its still a place where spitting on the floor is common many people lack a basic grasp of food hygiene and in public places soap is often nowhere to be found|0 I am sure you have the cases from Germersheim on your list since they are not new|1 Thanks utfgAlways good advice|1 Thank you so much|1 Hoosier here and I totally accept that FU It is very well deserved|0 Hi Im a peer Ive reviewed this article and I can confirm Dont like this at all|0 Never attribute to incompetence that which is statistically highly unlikely to be|1 I wonder how long the coronavirus has been in the US Also if the first case ever patient zero was found in early Dec could that mean that he was probably first infected back mid NovemberEditThey should start to close schools daycares resturants public transportation etc NOW Also they should quarantine all nursing homes and keep staff there of course give them extra pay|0 Yikes Yikes to everything you just said Um yeah thats what we call racism I see what kind of person Im dealing with here and I think Ill just call it quits before I waste anymore time on someone who says Asians are racist too in response to Asians experiencing racism|0 Douche deserves it|0 Star Wars|0 You are right I also think this lack of preparedness is a disgrace You are also right that there needs to be done more Ie Taiwan ramped up the mask production in January This situation requires coordinated leadershipIm sorry that my comment made you angry Please be careful and stay safe|0 Cant say youve been in contact with a positive person if we dont test anyone Huge brain|1 Statistically once you go over 50 cases and you have both communal transmission yesterday in BC And you declare the first local death is when it really ramps up From my observations it takes about 9 days to get to the first 1000 cases It happened in Italy and Iran|0 Masks are ineffectiveThey just tell us that because first responders need them more and there isnt enough to go aroundDoesnt help speculative buyers reselling them online for 300400 markupGlad I got my supply|1 Super surprising that America isnt immune to H2H transmission Does this mean the CDC can start to take it semi serious now|1 This scares me so much I live near a beach in Florida They need to go home|0 Eventually they are going to make it mandatory for you to stay home or they will send you back home if you show up We just havent gotten to that yet|1 When it started using money and the ability to borrow it as a proxy for individual competence|1 Well it makes their job much easier if the problem is your fault Complete shift of responsibility|0 Yep pretty scary|1 Please make sure she wears a mask on the way at the bare minimum|1 As a person with literal zero immune system getting a bone marrow transplant currently inpatient at UC Davis this is terrifying|0 Down vote the bot make it clear we dont like the censorship on thos one|1 Heh Heh Heh Funny joke Heh Heh Heh Seriously too many fucking people have been in the dumbest form over the past two weeks|0 Exactly And there are cases where we ordered medical equipment from Country A that had to be transproted through Country B but then Country B instituted laws banning the exportations of these equipment and now were fucked Mind you these are fellow European Union countries that are doing this and theyre breaking the European law hereWe cant set up a system where were all supposed to specialize work together have open borders and markets and then when things go bad all of these things just shut down|0 Thank you|1 I wont argue with you it is possible it is all for nothing when it comes to this virus but Im going to take a defensive posture by using it anyway because its just good for general antiaging and the studies are still out on whether it will be of benefit to Covid19|1 He absolutely is Only teacher who is actually teaching with a sense of humor and not surprisingly most people I know went up 12 grades out of 15 with 15 being the best after we got this teacher |1 Let me guess The window of opportunity is closing|1 no true scottsman what dicks|1 I sure hope they cant catch covid from people Then youll have a super scary swarm of monkeys|1 Contagious II Just a Flu|0 Theyre probably worried about Americans streaming across the border for cheap tests Theyre gonna have enough problems|0 Not real It is not fake news It is just right wing|1 Pretty much everyone in USA with a job|1 at least three daysOne year we had a really bad storm and we were snowed in for 11 days Literally couldnt get out of the house And even if we managed to there were 8 feet of snow on the roads So youre not getting anywhere If we only kept 3 days worth of food in the house we would not have been happy campers by day 11|0 We should have NEVER given them rcoronavirusI knew when i saw that happen we were in trouble for misinformation campaigns|0 I follow you all on twitter and love your work What is your best guess CFR And we are hearing some reports of younger patients in serious situations Is the narrative that it only kills the elderly wrong or are those cases an exception to the data Have we just not seen enough young people to see the final clinical endpoint|1 Ah I see this sounds reasonable Thanks|1 Do many people really think a surgical mask will protect themDoctors dont wear a mask to protect themselves they do it to protect the patients|1 Im pretty goddamn left leaning when it comes to my political views ButInteresting but the extreme of left leans toward authoritarianism bigger government with more power whereas the extreme right leans toward Anarchy less government free market no regulation|1 A lot of drivers I know right now are begging people to order so they can make some moneyThere are obviously a lot of issues in our society being put on display by this virus One of which is the inability for some people to work from home Obviously some professions will never be able to But Amazon or local food delivery places could start using drones The technology is there But then drivers would be out of a job altogether which is also not ideal dont you think|0 Oh I gotcha haha sorry It would be very interesting to see what would happen thoughI mean what if they couldnt hold the election due to the virus|1 He sounds like a fucking fucktard cuz he is|0 My exgirlfriend was an AGM at a hotel in WV that had consistent Chinese visitors through mid February She got pretty ill back in January We dont have any confirmed cases yet I dont know what to believe honestly|1 The idea of suppressing your immune system based on a completely unsupported idea thrown around on reddit seems like a terrible idea and the exact opposite of your bodys intended functioningThe current research indicates that Zn2 in vitro and in cell culture inhibits coronavirus replication 2010 and a clinical trial is looking at Vitamin C as a therapeutic due to a known mechanism in which Vitamin C blocks one of the primary mechanisms in which Covid19 causes respiratory stress This suggests that the typical immune boosters could have a protective effect when taken under very specific circumstances Getting enough sleep is also a known factor that significantly affects Tcell levels However for most people they just need to use common sense about how they interact with people and where they goThere doesnt appear to be any evidence this is an autoimmune disorder Its basically a cold virus focusing on new receptors that allow it to replicate and inhibit breathing|0 And your wifes boyfriend is black yep we know all these things|1 Im in trucking Every customer I deal with is asking for our game plan Drivers are not allowed in the office area but are probably the safest as theyre alone 1012 hours a day Shits about to hit the fan in my opinion Ships arent coming into ports which will slow domestic shipping downless products on shelves Problem is Target Walmart PG etc are all making hay right now|0 Im in the same boat except Im the wife and my husband thinks Im more worried than I should be Im glad I started buying stuff early I was able to get a bunch of n95s and pediatric surgical masks for our younger kids too young for n95before resellers got ahold of them When you have kids you owe it to them to be prepared Id be way more worried now if I hadnt gotten them plus our other supplies As this unfolds your wife will probably appreciate that you took steps to protect your family|1 Im thinking 100 million people are going to die but who knows how bad it actually will be|0 Wow now I feel bad for being bitchy Note to self dont drink and reddit I get far too sassy Im so sorry for my behavior Anyways yeah no I feel what youre getting at My dad has the luxury of working at home It has worried me that people cant work from home then people who could cant because of ignorance Its one of those things that people dont worry about it because it isnt happening today when we should worry about it for future instances like this|1 Also its very important to use hand sanitizer with dry hands So dont wash your hands and use hand sanitizer immediately or even mix it Also read what the manufacturer says how long the hand sanitizer has to be on the skin For most this is 1030 seconds Most people use not enough sanitizer It is also important to use these 68 steps while using hand sanitizer takes 2030 seconds httpswwwwhointgpsc5mayHowToHandRubPosterpdfIf that should not be possible so put extra effort in coveringcleaning your fingertips and thumbs Same goes for surface desinfection Depending on the product and the bacteriavirus the surface has to stay covered up to 2 minutes If it get dry just cover it again and continue counting|1 Thats not true he knew he could have had it and had been tested prior to this incident happening|0 Uh most people dont need any kind of treatment Looked to me like he was at home|1 I couldnt agree more but would say this is an important piece that at least we got some clarity on today|1 Whats even the point of this They cant possibly eat all of that even if we end up in quarantine for like 3 months|1 Good|1 Cant be sick if you dont show symptoms taps forehead RollSafe|1 From a realistic standpoint I hate conspiracy theories From an entertainment standpoint I love them But yes That one doesnt seem that crazy to me as time goes on and info comes out And I mean I never intentionally cut myself while Im cooking But it happens|1 Fortunately if this is true it wont be able to be covered up since China is starting to set a lot of major cities back to normal|1 Thats what I was telling someone at work The virus itself might not kill you but if our hospitals are overwhelmed and resources stretched too thing that could cascade and lead to a whole host of issues or actions taken|1 How would you have known how long the incubation period was 14 day ago and whether incubators are infectiousHow do you know that now Where are you getting your knowledge about the incubation period from Can you tell us how long an asymptomatic carrier is infectious forHistorically ships carrying infections were quarantined for 40 days regardless of what the virus or disease was To protect the indigenous populations what quarantine period would you recommendHow would you know whether the SEIR model or the SEIS model is appropriate for the covid virus|1 Dude Ive been poor of course Ive been in a plasma collection center Id like to see your source about 10 of the time because that was not my experience but its been a few years But again lab work is skilled medical work Testing for COVID19 is skilled medical work The issue is not noone will sell plasma or collection centers dont exist because they will and they do Its that ramping up production in any sector of the medical field requires staff and supplies and both of those are in short supply Im not saying it wouldnt help save people Im saying I cant see how its logistically possible in the current situation|0 Treatment protocols Ive seen for hydroxychloroquine day 1loading 400 mg PO BID day 25 200 mg PO BID I believe China changed from Chloroquine 500 MG PO Bid x 10 days 6th edition to 7 days 7th edition Negative tests 44 days post initiation of therapy could explain the change in duration|0 Pence is going to tell us to pray it away|1 A lot of these nurses truly care for their patients If the nurses know they will live and know their patients need help then yes many would rather help then just let them die They take care of these people everyday|1 I would get your money back now If shit is still hitting the fan over there in a month theyre just going to increase the length of the ban Im sorry about your vacation|0 And theres a percentage of people that will stop ordering out entirely to prevent potential exposure via cooksdelivery peopleetc|0 Dont forget the guy she fucked|0 schools will be closed down at some pointKnowing my district theyll probably close down once they find someone infected at which point its too late and theyve already infected others|0 Like being sort of pregnant|1 Look at his comment history at the time of posting this he literally has three posts on all of reddit Most subreddits require you to be a user for a certain amount of time until you get to post mods please implement this|1 I thought I was on the Dallas sub reddit lol|1 Thats going to be the only way my shitty boss is going to let me work from home Relatedly Im looking for a new job ASAP|0 Wtf|0 I believe it Dont agree with it but I believe itSucks you have to worry about that|0 I bet the crew members are so relieved they got to get off The Japan ship sounds like hell for the crew This is bad for literally everyone else though And somehow not even surprising|0 Results are available in 6 hours to health professionals in Ontario but it sounds like the lab is not open overnight at this point httpswwwthestarcomnewsgta20200224500coronavirustestsin5weekshowontariospublichealthlabfiguresoutwhoisinfectedhtml|1 One thing to add for Shanghai Everyone has to register with their neighborhood council or whatever and tell them where theyve been Ive already done this and had no issues Many of my Chinese coworkers coming back into Shanghai from their hometowns have to selfquarantine for 14 days if they are coming from certain heavily infected provinces Kinda sucks considering most of them were on already on lockdown for 2 weeks in their hometowns|0 Thanks my friend|1 Yep that one user in Shanghai that keeps making daily posts about how its getting sunnier people are starting to laugh and joke on the streets again etc and everybody on this sub is eating it up like Legit makes it sound like hes living in a fairy tale|1 Do people in other states need to pay or show insurance card|0 Theres hope my coworker was screaming media hoax the flu is worse two days ago now hes freaking out|0 These have been in stock the entire time Get it use it for yourself and anyone else who might need it Youre not being selfish for trying to save your own damn life Think about the people who would be devastated if you die|0 China slam dunk|0 ive been taking 1000mg orally per day 30000mg is my whole supply insane|0 Joe Rogan gets a expert on infectious disease while the mainstream media gets a cosmologist Smh|0 I found this quite helpful last week httpwwwpsandmancomcolteachablehtmhttpwwwpsandmancomcolteachablehtm|1 Id argue its never outdated Panicking and spreading panic will do nothing beneficial life must and will go on Certainly were reaching a point past chill though|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 It works great when the internet power is out P|1 Itll be the opposite Older people in China are more sickly because the air quality is so terrible|0 Its spreading by a waiter serving food or a cleaner going from room to room|1 Dont forget tomorrow is st Patricks Going to be a lot from that popping up the week of the 30th|1 Exactly That will give some people more of a chance at survival Glad Ive already had the flu and the cold that have been going around this year|1 During the Spanish Flu schools that closed proactively before infections saved more lives than schools that closed when infections were detected so its not that it would accomplish nothing It would actually prevent a lot of spread of the virus to vulnerable people|1 Heres my perspective Im a Westerner lived here for more than ten year deep connections in Shanghai and wuhan Currently in shanghai but my family is in wuhan Im going to educated guess about half of the doomer videos are real And 100 of those everything is fine we just staying inside are also real China is diverse This is totat fucked for some and a boring inconvenience for the rest You will meet idiots who will believe anything good and badYou will meet antigovermnet people You will meet the CCP lifted china out of povety and can do nothing wrong people But mostly you will meet regular people they totally understand the weaknesses of china and they totally get the advantages They are just normal people trying to get by They can accurately see right through the government and it doesnt phase them Why Because they are just doing their thing Lets be real When chinaparty decided they needed to get real about this they did They did in unprecedented and very uncomfortable ways Was it quick enough Fuck no But they did it and we are all paying for it They have brought the rest of china and the rest of the world time to rally All this is clear obvious and undeniable to everyone Theyll CCP never come right out and say it because A 5000 years of culture and B the panic it will cause in china will absolutely and undeniably not be good for anyone We are all surviving here by hearing good news from them Without it I know I would crash We are used to it And tomorrow depends on it This is a global threat You need to convince your leadership to take it seriously not reddit but its a good place to start The Chinese government has made the scale of the problem obvious by what they have done in the last 30 days If freedoms are what makes things happen in the west then use them to get what needed done|0 youre overlooking the dozens of news articles where locals are saying they cant get into a hospital due to no room and who cant get tested due to a lack of test kits|0 Dump his ass|0 Better start practicing clenching your buttcheeks to reduce toilet paper usage|1 They mention the deficit if its a Democratic president to stall or gunk up any progressive legislative action As they did 2008 2016|0 WordBut like literally|1 Journeying in China one day I pondered why an empty 75milelong 10 lane concrete highway existed It started to make sense pretty quick And another time in Chongqing for gods sakes city of 35 million with scores of dozens of empty buildings never occupied yet Then it started to make more sense Most people do not know that party members sit on the company boards Thats what we figured out The red envelope The military The thugs The absolute endemic deep and visceral corruption likely mostly because of what you point out|0 Is the statement in this TED videohttpswwwfacebookcomTEDvideos205612000551522 about health care workers getting a more severe infection due to receiving a higher dose accurateI was under the impression that health care workers might be more likely to get infected especially if they didnt have proper PPE but I wasnt aware that they would have more severe infections The CDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpfaqhtml for example doesnt list being a health care worker as a risk factor for getting a more severe caseIm wondering whether this video is legit as he seems to be downplaying the risks to the general population and Im worried that this will lead people towards complacency|0 Like we are seeing now with Climate Science and Vaccination|1 Well in Italy it ran through the kids who spread it to their parents and grand parents who are now dying|1 I dont feel bad for her Its a disgusting habit and everyone doing this should be shamed|0 Some of us cant help it|0 I mean thats great but your figure of June is no more valid than his figure of 14 weeks Theyre both just figures pulled out of your ass And theyre really not that far apart TBH Were all in uncharted waters here and the best thing we can do is just buckle up and remember no matter how bad it gets or how long it lasts well eventually get past it|0 It might be worth considering for patients who are over 60 or immunocompromised are symptomatic and test positive Maybe even for patients over 60 who are probableexposed but awaiting test results For example trying to get ahead of a crisis scenario such as the elder care facility near SeattleIts hard to see it being at all justified for under 60 healthy untested and asymptomatic httpswwwmotherjonescomwpcontentuploads202003blogcoronavirusdeathrateriougif|1 Im here visiting I dont have any source of income or accommodation in this townI am sure you have a travel insurance though right If you dont its your fault|1 I love this Im one of the lucky few who picked up n95 masks before they sold out I have 30 10 for each member of my household Now that both my husband and I are working from home I dont see us using these masks Especially since we have at least a months worth of food and supplies When the mask shortage begins at my local hospital smaller town I plan to donate them Health care workers will get much more use out of them than II live in a townhouse complex and also plan to leave a note on our community board and offer to pick up supplies for seniorsIn a lighter note my 1 thing would be getting a frosty from Wendys I havent had one in years and recently got a craving but I dont want to take the risk of getting fast food right now|1 Lol ya|1 Ironic|0 Potential treatment But its certainly not a vaccine|1 This is a very helpful story Im afraid people will run out of patience after a week but Im not at all afraid of hte lockdown if it helps|1 Thats assuming that the cases are spread all over the country evenly hospitals in Lombardy are full up and theyre needing to make new ICU bedsThis is the problem with the herd immunity strategy the speed the virus would have to propagate would have to be insanely low for us not to be overran|0 httpswwwcspanorgvideoc4860698usercliptrumpcoronavirusOh he fucking has it Hes holding back coughs his breaths are shallow and look painful dudes eyes arent even open|0 Im happy ontario closed schools for 3 weeks and many colleges universities are going online Today is the last day of school but i kept my son home|1 Maybe WHO doesnt want to trigger the World Banks pandemic catastrophe bonds Thats the only reason I can think of|0 Guys seriously Nothing is going to blow up as long as your government keeps it quiet So calm the fuck down With loveAn italian|0 ahhaaha i hope you stocked up on toilet paper to wipe all that shit coming out of your mouth lol|1 I agree that it could get really bad everywhere but I could see the government saying ah whatever its here and we cant stop it before they shut down and quarantine everything Lets remember who were dealing with here they care about the economy far more than peoples lives|1 Remember to wash you hands dear |1 Then yeah I give this guy no excuses wtf dude|0 Call a doctor or public health department If you have it there are some drugs that can help Dont wait a day|1 Extremely interesting report I notice an overlap in authors with the researchers who made hybrid coronavirus 5 years back and showed that it was highly virulent You know the ones that collaborated with the Wuhan class 4 lab Check for yourselves httpswwwnaturecomarticlesnm3985|0 No the sooner a shutdown happens the less of a peak later At least my understanding of it and why its important to act as soon as possible|0 Well Trump recently tweeted to boast that we only have like 120 cases or so not counting ones repatriated That tweet is not going to age well onceif we actually start largescale testing I fear|1 100 of people who dont contract COVID19 will dieNo one makes it out alive|1 My friends parents who live in a Florida retirement community part of the year says their neighbours have been stockpiling on ammo You think Americans will stay locked down Hah|1 That does not seem anywhere near enough Not only because it would require intentionally getting infected which may turn out to be suicidal but also because we have no idea of the longterm consequences of this vaccine The effects might last a lifetime and 3500 pounds wont go that far|0 Didnt it come from bats They are natural carriers of coronaviruses after all|1 The reason why soap and water is the best for hands is that it actually flushes the virus off the skin Alcohol kill the virus but the dead virus remains I just learnt that illuminating fact the other day|0 I had tele therapy yesterday and that is something my therapist really stressed I now have about an hour in the morning to catch up on what happened in the world while I was sleeping and a half hour in the evening Other than that I am all over raww and tiktok|0 God damnit|0 So somebody at Goldman Sachs reads our forum too Good to know You helped make this happen you worthless fucks Reap what you sow|0 Indeed When anime is affected shit gets real|0 Checking in from Kirkland All of my neighbors are are essentially laughing at me for keeping my kids home from school|1 People are stuck at the 405 therefore the virus cant invade peoples cars|0 Thank you so much for the chart On this chart which ON were the ones from the midtown ESL centre And the CDI College Link httpswwwcp24comnewsprivatecollegeinnorthyorkshutsdownafterspouseofstudentcomesdownwithcovid1914838139|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 This is nothing I got the same thing with reddit cats Four reddit results and then a bunch of random results I did the same with cars and trucks First page for both was all reddit but second page for both was all random non reddit sites Im sure censorship is happening but I dont think this is good evidence|1 Yup sad but true We are also a culture now obsessed with literal fatalism and negativism The idea that lifepeoplethe worldreality sucks so if something looks good pretty happy competent etc Its probably fake We demand grit and bleak darkness in our fiction and fantasy under the guise of realism So OC that line of reasoning should apply to even things like this too|1 They will help the homeless and people that are not Mormon Even Ex Mormons but it comes with a price besides this article is about schools in Utah Utah is on top of it They prepared for this Yes the Mormons do have a lot to say politically here but Mormons are becoming a minority|1 I think the idea of giving money might work we need to do it monthly though Unfortunately there are people who will spend 6 months of relief in a few days|1 Im primarily concerned with medical staff and truck drivers Society collapses without you I just wish youd stop driving in the passing lane|0 thankfully for us the Contagion virus was 200x the lethality of the flu|0 Im simultaneously reading this subreddit while looking at my fb feed full of posts still blowing this off as nothing Its unbelievable Hell I know nurses and medical assistants who are totally unaware or ignorant to what is going to happen The country is not prepared for this at all|0 Did you access reddit via VPN or it isnt blocked by CPP|1 A set is always greater than a subset|1 Call and see if they can defer it|0 I disagree Any job that doesnt take their employees life into concern is 100 expendable regardless of the perks Id rather take a job at a mom and pop making 25000 a year than work for the devil 100000|0 Awesome|1 wrg cepu think say can think say any nmw and any s ok just u r not vs|1 Undoubtedly a rash of deaths by other causes China did the same bullshit All these idiots are doing is making the world more dangerous for themselves and everyone else by trying to cover up the data|0 Its funny how pragmatic Swiss were preparing for the nuclear war since the end of WW2 building bunkers and all yet they seem to be totally unprepared for global Coronavirus pandemic|0 I guess youve never been in a hospital postop on a sufentanyl epidural then I have and I assure you these drugs have a legitimate role in medicine|1 Great great great idea|1 More like USA fears from being as transparent as China because of the same thing economy But USA is doing everything worse than even China How hypocritic can this be Poor USA |0 Taiwan is actually quite safe Havent imploded like Korea Japan Italy yet|1 So if you get sick before the end of April you lose your pay raise|0 thats simply not the truth there have been lots of tetst in austria and 29 confirmed cases maybe you should read the news before postingi wonder if they will close the schools and universities here in austria|0 999 swiss people hanging out 999 swiss people one coughs it passes around998 swiss people hanging outHumor helps me cope |1 Its fucking reddit These people in general on these China threads are just pathetic When they get called out for being the over reactive fear mongering retards that they are theyll be desperate to look for any reason to discredit the people calling them out Even if theres no actual reason for it|0 I had a little scratch in my throat for about a week went away but now its me back Now my throat is start to hurt with a mild headache on and off No cough though so I dont know what to think Glad your having a speedy recovery though |0 Thank you for posting this Ive been meaning to do the same They need to be held responsible for future deaths and they need to step it up right now This would have gone very differently with appropriate testingIts not the time to have incompetent people running this|1 I had this as well throughout january right after new years I was feeling really off and weird for a week started to feel better then got knocked my ass for 2 weeks My chest was on fire and it hurt to breathe As soon as that happened i slapped on a face mask went to doc and he said i have no idea what kind it is but you have a virus of some sort He gave me steroids and told me to rest Well the steroids made it worse and by day 7 couldnt get up out of bed I missed 2 weeks of work and actually quit my job because i was so sick of picking up colds and flus from coworkers who always showed up sick as dogs salons are horrible to go to if you wanna avoid the flu The illness i had was that bad I got better after half the month passed and still coughed until feb Maybe it was influenza i dont know It didnt feel like the flu It was more mild in terms of body aches not as delirious 101 ish fever but the chest pain and dizzyness were extreme If covid19 is worse than whatever virus that was we are in for a really ROUGH month or 2|0 EXACTLY THIS Thank you|1 Gigantic idiot who will ultimately be an accidental hero the NBA shutting down started a massive chain reaction that will save thousands of lives Americans are stubborn fucksAs for basketball probably better than Astros players hated for a while but hes really fucking good so people will move on|1 So it is free for people So youre saying those who have no jobs and get the Coronavirus will be turned away from testing because they cant pay|1 The travel part is my FAVOURITE part of traveling in Asian Were definitely different|1 Eat the rich|1 Bars casinos gyms etc are closed my friend Restaurants at limited capacity Guess what I saw today tourists still walking around in groups on the streets others biking Some were even looking thru the gates of the cemeteries that are locked sans tour guides in NOLA some cemeteries cant be accessed wo a guide to curb vandalismSo yeah still wrong|1 It must be Bulgaria no doubt|0 I live in KS and rn the case numbers are low and most are conservative so even tho Trump flipped most think it is a hoax to a scareppl over reacting I have snaps of ppl of all ages going to bars and hookah spots from all over last night But the market is crashing and most of the loans Are subprime so I dont see many getting approved rn And the ppl with good credit are buying some but a lot of them are waiting for the market to recover So mostly no All my Fridaysat appointments canceled or no showed|0 Yep And I see people so shocked that its moving so fast What do you think is going to happen when airplane and other types of travel are still up and running with open borders And here in America many dont get sick days and many dont take them even if they have them Its a viruss dream come true access to the whole world instantly and hosts that willingly carry you to your next victim|1 It sure does Its just not needed yet s|1 You guys have a shot at winning this fightIn western countries people are not taking this seriously yetI am in Canada I expect to be left with my bare ass flapping in the wind|0 damn you famous people|0 Yeah I dont know what went wrong All the other SARSMERS countries are handling this so much better Were not doing as badly as the US but thats such a low bar|0 So fucking brave I really couldnt do the same Especially knowing that a month ago the same group would have encountered a healthy dose of racism upon arrival|1 Science behind it where Can you give me a link to that paperThat doesnt sound very scientific or even rationalLeft to spread on its own course will mean millions of dead in the UK aloneThere would be 100s of people dying in the street in about 4 weeks timeAlso there are reports of reinfectionSorry unless you can cite some solid research for that Im calling BS|0 Imagine dying of a viral infection regardless of your age where you live or whatever job you have and not having anyone call you a hero for it|1 Fidelity Investments has been amazing through this though I dont work there my SO does They have been in constant communication with their associates and as of Friday everyone has been allowed to work from homeMy own brokerage firm who I will not name but is being bought out anyways didnt say anything for a month finally created a slack channel filled with emojis memes and jokes about corona had us do a tornado drill in a basement was made fun of by my manager and told it was just a germ and then all of a sudden took it really seriously when my team was exposed and told to work from home and now the company is working from home But they were reactive not proactive|1 Hey there While the threat of Covid19 shouldnt be taken lightly its very important to stay informed on what we know to be true Its easy for misinformation to spread quickly So you arent to be blamed for believing things that arent true that being said however its crucial to understand a few things 1 The vast majority of coronavirus related deaths are from older people with preexisting health conditions These are the age distributions of the covid19 related deaths in italy from the past couple days httpsimgurcomVYWdjEIhttpsimgurcomfIkA1EHhttpsimgurcom3Wag1GG2 Your chances of dying from Covid19 as a young healthy adult are very slim Attached here is the mortality rate by age Essentially the younger you are the less likely you are to die from it httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicsOf course a handful of younger people have died but the chances of this happening are incredibly small In fact look up Coronavirus teenager death in quotations and you can see for yourself that no results pop up Feel free to rearrange the wording in it as well Quite often people tend to point out examples of young doctors dying from coronavirus While out of context this may seem incongruous with the aforementioned statistics its important to understand why a larger handful of doctors died from covid19 Because they were exposed to it more frequently You can read more about that here Research published earlier this month found that of 138 patients studied at one Wuhan hospital 29 were healthcare workers One coronavirus patient was initially sent to the wrong ward because they displayed atypical symptoms so went on to infect at least 10 medical workersSecond healthcare workers in China have dealt with a shortage of supplies like masks suits and protective gear That makes staff even more susceptible to the virus while treating patientshttpswwwgooglecomampswwwbusinessinsidercomwhycoronaviruskilledyoungchinesedoctors202023fampThat being said its imperative that young people understand that no they should not expect to die from covid19 However they should expect that hypothetically if they caught it they could spread it to those who can die from it Only 81 of cases were 20somethings 12 were teens and 09 were 9 or younger httpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactors I hope this helped you out Be safe And wash your hands|0 Light at the end of the tunnel Of course all the deaths are horrible but at least itll begin slowing down|0 If I wrote a book about the coronavirus and focused the first chapter on people planning to create a crowd during a pandemic the publisher would tell me to fuck off Humans are fucked|0 Once theyve had the chance to try them they are|1 I meanYou can also argue that in a country with more old people its likely to start among old people tooEither way Italy will have more die because its older Period Its been clear age is the main factor above all else|0 Thanks for sharing Ill likely add this link in a future update|1 It needs to happen if they dont want all the laid off workers out in the streets looking for alternative means of survival|0 They also started the myth about Tutenkhammuns tomb being cursed Its been a terrible newspaper for 100 years|0 Suit by customers What You dont get to sue a company because they allowed you to knowingly expose yourself by choosing to go there Is there something Disney knows about the virus risk that all of those patrons dontInstead of trying to profit by suing disney maybe those customers should just not go|0 Quick question what happens if you sell your other home out do you still need to pay mortgages and utilities related to that house|0 But the Tories want herd immunity and to kill 1m people ResignBoris s|0 In the countries that have done it ur allowed to go to the store and stuff like that|1 Corona19 has already had one major mutationFlu vaccines are so hit and miss because the virus evolves so quickly This wont be any different|0 My life has been cut short in the last month not by the virus but by the mental strain of arguing and fighting with my most loved ones constantly in attempt to keep them safe from their own proud and persistent stupidity|1 Good decision to stop smoking In addition to other health concerns it might actually help you fight against this COVID19 tooTheres evidence that Coronaviruses attach to the ACE2receptors and some study earlier suggested that asian men particularly have high number of these receptorsHowever recent study has observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smokers vs nonsmokershttpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051v1 If you consider the fact that 68 of Chinese men smoke compared to just 32 of womenhttpsqzcom52166268ofchinesemenaresmokersandmillionswilldiebecauseofit there might be the connectionThis virus is could be more dangerous to smokers than nonsmokers|0 Im super down with being quarantinedso long as my bills are suspended my job is secure and ample provisions are provided to live on If being quarantined means losing your job from nonattendance and starving while bills that cant be paid through no fault of your own pile up then fuck that|0 Just bought one today on Amazon Still available|1 Wowthat hurts I hate people so much|0 What Are these two governors nuts Im glad my governor ironically Republican isnt like this Theyre basically endangering the people they are supposed to govern and encouraging them to endanger each other This is just horrible At least Ohio and Illinois and a few other midwest governors are cracking down on this and taking things seriously|0 Maybe how the virus will spread in Prisons and Colleges places where lots of people are living in close quarters At least in those cases there is a benefit of fresh air|1 sadly right now the hospital sin Wuhan are overflooded with about 90000 people packed there waiting for a doctor They are ALL sick So even if they do not have the flu they will all soon have it anyway I am not sure for SARS how many at this equivalent time were packed into the hospital or quarantined into one city Wuhan currently has about 83 million in quarantine|0 I mean sure but Im going still going to put my money on rushed studies that can at least describe the virus accurately|1 I find it morally inexcusable The value of a human or sentient animal life is infinite no matter what the economists say Preserving human andor animal life must always precede money or you become a murderer a moral monster|0 While I dont know based on his antifragile book if I was guessing it would be something like if it can kill you if you get it and you are going where it is or it is coming where you are take the vaccine but dont trust absence of proof as proof of absence on side effects Especially when you cant Sue the vaccine makerHe is generally pretty good at not ignoring the alternative|1 FakeWeather in mainland PortugalMarchSuggest packing a sweater warm jacket and light rain coatAverage temperatures Low 15 C 58 FLow temperature 10 C 52 FHigh temperature 19 C 65 FSunshine hours 6Rainfall days 1335 chance of sunny days and 15 chance of butty days with 40 chance of rainOcean temperature 16 C 59 FChance of windy days 25|1 Yeah sorry What I meant was It could get bad very bad very sick Gov should be shutting everything down I recon there is about 20x more infected then what numbers say All the best brother |0 credibility he had got thrown out the window with all of those lies he said during his campaign|0 I think they wish the american government would of taken action like they did today a month ago|1 Coronavirus could kill more than 10 million people in the US|0 Nice ass pulled numbers here Nostradamus|0 ConsideringI guess maybe well take this serious next week|1 While Im sure motivates arent pure for a be fucking careful message celebs coming out as positive does more than 250 randoms tested positive|1 no one is travelling now so very few travel casesall the infected are community cases which they dont want to test cause they dont want to know|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I understand this thinking but you cant expect especially younger people to sit inside forever Hell you cant expect adults to do this either But younger people arent going to obey this for long and a lot of other people arent going to ruin their livelihood especially financially for too long either At some point we are going to have to accept this virus get on with life so the entire country doesnt crash economically The most at risk can isolate and be protected|1 Clever tacticCCP Yes people are dying at a faster rate right now but we dont know if they have the virus or not|1 The Cold Buster is actually a kick ass remedy|0 Already stopped|0 Please be careful in how you present this info Many countries around the world use saunas A LOT and i feel they need to do more studies before this can be declared Its also dependent on sauna maintenance Im guessing Not everybody does things the way theyre supposed to unfortunately A sauna can also be a perfect setting for transmission if very specific conditions are not metIts an interesting idea thoughETA after having read the article its most definitely not saying its been proven|1 And to think the number of new cases was dropping|1 5 million people left Wuhan for the rest of the Chinahttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200209asiapacificsciencehealthasiapacifictop10list5millionleftwuhanquarantinego You have no idea how many of them were actually infected or how many of them left China so your conclusion is premature at best|0 Three weeks later Wuhan had thousands of infections and was put on largescale lockdownhttpswwwnytimescom20200122worldasiachinacoronavirustravelhtml However these largescale nonpharmaceutical interventions to create social distancing had a huge impact on the resulting epidemic China averted many millions of infections through these intervention measures and cases there have declined substantiallyhttpscovid2019azurewebsitesnetx200Bwashingtonoregon have closed a few schools a big building is being closed for cleanedSalesforce has banned most flights for its people same with Twitter stuff is being cancelled x200Bi dont think it will be as bad infections wise but I do expect a lot of self imposedencouraged quarantine or limited outsidenessx200Bwhat will be interesting is if the authorities cancel mega events like NCAA March Madness or MLB Opening Days not cancel but no crowdsx200BSummer 2020 is going to be the year the whole country went on Staycation|0 Id recommend trying to rebook and not going through China even if its just the airport If you do still end up doing it wear a mask as much as you can|1 And you laughed when i asked how was air quality in china few weeks ago|1 Google flu surge 20 To see some of the basic modeling done by CDC on this topicMost country health departments will have a basic outline of a plan adapted for local area How well thought out it is highly variable|0 Coronavirus is a disease worse than the flu But it wont be the end of society That being said it will probably become endemic to the world how influenza and other coronaviruses are|0 Nobody usually buys it stores dont order much of it then everyone buys it at once and stores havent prepared to order a ton of it so its out for a while Stores are mostly just behind in the demand and didnt prepare for hordes of panicked people|0 The point is if you close schools tons of families are unable to cope You may think itll stop the virus but you arent considering how families rely on school to manage their children|0 I keep seeing morons on fb screaming about how the media is making everyone overreact One of them wrote can we not on a post from the CDC about limiting gatherings of 50 ppl I think they will only listen to Trump I sincerely hope they will take it seriously from here on out|0 I walked behind some girls briefly on a hike today who were talking about their flight It came up because of my scarf face coverOne of them quiped for her friends to not worry because shes a scientistIm sure she is but I have doubts shes a virologist or epidemiologist by her downplaying of itI get actively point at as if Im the elephant man because I look like Im a blind guy looking like Im about to do a drive by captionhttpsimgurcomUzsTGEijpgI actually feel the tide aslowly turning Itll have to flair in an American an city with leaked ICU videos before many can grasp the threat can hit them here unfortunately|0 We get it youre scared and you dont like Trudeau Now please everyone stop thinking you have a clue what all the implications of shutting the border or locking down the country are and the considerations that go into a decision like that|0 Identical symptoms but Chicago area End of Janbeginning of Feb Worst ive ever felt Only now feeling close to 100 again|0 Lastest news is that he was revived by defibrillator and currently hooked up to an ECMO machine They are still working to save himhttpsmweibocnstatus4469124778709323httpsmweibocnstatus4469124778709323|1 Ok but how deadly is the regular flu|0 I see I think theyll do it next week at the latest Shits gonna get too bad anyway nobody would turn up|0 Why they fired so many|0 They did have both telegrams and telephones so they were well into the beginning of longdistance modern communication Of course its not on par with the internet but they were massively advantages compared to any prior pandemic in communication terms|1 Oh man you miss them when you dont have them|0 Hmm the governemnt wants to infect 60 of uk thats 40 millions 8 millions are to be in critical condition if 1 millions dies like wtf China had only 80k vs 40 millions What is wrong with UK|0 is sourced by the GEOS satellite and it did at some point in time did detect a spike in SO2 emissions Whether it is normal is not enough based on one sourceThere is no satellite merely called GEOSThe way this simulation probably works is that there are 2 or more sibling satellites orbiting the earth at different locationsWhat are these satellites you speak of What satellites are feeding in live SO2 emission data to the GEOS5 model|0 You can buy SPY on Robinhood I prefer M1 just for the fractional shares though|1 Its not 100K its more like 20K cases|1 Well said Very similar to my response I just posted above Im also concerned about it being too late in the US and feat that were going to end up in a situation similar to Italy|1 For him and his rich friends|1 My counterpoint is the 7001000 rounds of ammo I was seeing most customers is probably not helping the situation Also what happens to that store when they sell out|0 For what its worth the experts Im seeing are saying May is not going to be enough Im reading health experts saying we might need to stay like this for up to a year Once midApril comes around when all these places are planning to reopen and suddenly everyone realizes everything is going to collapse|1 i called the company that hold the mortgages for my rentalsthey will only defer is the Fed mandates it|0 Problem is we dont know where the established cases will end up as in China as in SK|0 I never asked for this my vision is augmented intensifies|1 They tested everyone on the Diamond Princess symptoms or no symptoms thats keyA total of 634 people tested positive among 3063 tests as at 20 February 2020also Our study is not free from limitations First laboratory tests by PCR were conducted focusing on symptomatic cases especially at the early phase of the quarantine If asymptomatic cases were missed as a result of this it would mean we have underestimated the asymptomatic proportion The proportion of asymptomatic might be higherhttpswwweurosurveillanceorgcontent10280715607917ES202025102000180httpswwweurosurveillanceorgcontent10280715607917ES202025102000180|0 Well shit Thats way better Thanks for the info Will try gxg next time if anyfuckingone is still delivering to China by thenI wonder if they push international courier packages through ahead of the line Cant imagine same day customs clearance happening in these times otherwise|1 This is saddening but so true I work with people who dont even bother to watch the news or keep up to date on anything let along covid19Ive had to explain to them almost everything about this One of the excuses I got from one of them was I dont like reading and You will just keep me updated if anything happens I am not here to keep you updated You need to start informing yourself|1 At least 5000 Thais in service sex and other industriesThey decided to return to Thailand Some decided to intentionally refuse quarantine or decided to intentionally spread the disease because fuck those righteous bastards Im working for money not your stupid principles|0 Are you talking to me or my kool aid friend here|1 I see surgical mask is still 12 for a 20 pack its not that bad|1 I always roll my eyes when i see comments like this Humans are going extinct because climate pandemics environmental disasters or whatever You dont have ANY idea how resilient humans are Only thing that is possible to wipe out every human is big enough asteroid to break entire planet or aliens from cxxzczxczcxxczxc96 decide they dont like us|1 Lmao no it isnt trivial I dont speak Persian and dont follow any Persian social media My wife is busy and I am not about to ask her to end her phone call to show me a video so i can link it to youIs your wife on the phone all day Apparently substantiating a wild claim is now impossible for youEven Masih Alinejad an antiregime activist who constantly posts videos from Iranian social media has zero videos or even claims about mass graves these are two 2 videos of graves related to coronavirus that she has postedhttpstwittercomAlinejadMasihstatus1237057753711030278httpstwittercomAlinejadMasihstatus1237405480139591686Again normal graves as I claimed no mass gravesAll I can say is that the existence of mass graves is widely talked about in Iran She was telling me about them like 2 weeks agoSo you are now going from saying there were videos all over social media showing people being dumped in mass graves to people are talking about itI couldnt care less what idiots on social media say people are also saying its just a cough and to not worry some even think Israel or the US is behind it not exactly a good source of informationKeep downvoting me and not substantiating your wild claims|0 Thank you very much for this information|1 criminal negligence Lawyer up|0 There are tons of people with underlying medical problems they dont even know about stay safe|1 Our prime minister Lfven here in Sweden is doing the same I am really fearful though it almost feels like a way of wiping out elderly instead of gingers so they dont have to pay out pensions anymore The ruling party have for a long time talked about elderly Swedes as a problem that they cost too much and that they are too many I guess they found the solution|1 Yea and his answer a week back on this issue was along the lines of kneejerk reactions wont help matters what a jerk|0 China allows 34 foreign movies a year Not just Hollywood With US studios able to take 25 revenue It is big only for a few costly movies|0 Fuck yeah Walmart|0 Can Chinese protect themselves Can those UirgursDidnt think so|1 Well I hope my dorm lets me stay longer for free otherwise Ill be stuck in Canada with no money or anything But honestly I doubt they will This should be interesting Im curious though to what nonessential travels means Is it just goods or what|1 People are so focused on the virus that they arent even realizing that hundreds of thousands of people will be out of work if this continues any longerI think people realize that but eve though the economy is important its not more important than potentially millions of people dying from the spread of CoVid19|1 Lol possibly One says it is all media hype and I suggested she read first hand accounts on here|1 Gosh you guys are so easily triggered when the orange buffoon is rightfully made fun of for the imbecilic and deranged things he says and does|1 As a doomer Ive developed a crazy tinfoil hat process I propose for handling newly discovered contagious diseases of unknown characteristics1 Shut down flights from infected area2 Learn about disease by studying non madeup data 3 If risk is tolerable resume flights4 If too dangerous thank yourself for stopping flights at the very start extremely important data is not made upEDIT sorry if it is not clear I am responding to the comment related to stopping flights I have been a strong advocate of that for weeks now and still think it is better late than never until we understand this virus better|0 far more deaths than china tho Horrific for a far smaller country China benefited from having immense extra capacity that they moved onto the quarantine zone|0 No you havent you were probably identifying protozoa or at best some bacteria not virusesx200BAssay preparation and nucleic acid extraction is the tricky part Reading the results isnt where the hold up is|1 Universities may have sent the kids home but requires all support staff to go in to work Very few are actually able to work from home|1 How many borders closed for either of those above casesHow many kids were out of school compared with the currently 300 millionkids What was the economic impact compared with this one All chinese production is currently stopped Medical ingredients for pharma made in China shipped to india to make the Meds then to America arent being manufactured So a medicine shortage is likely Lots of shortages are likely Ive never seen ANYTHING like this in my 40 years Have you H1N1 was hyped and on the news a lot but it wasnt as communicableEdit Events likely canceled include SXSW 30 years first time cancelled Olympics when were these cancelled by an outbreak etc|0 To be fair the test needs to be widely available in the hospitals in the first place which doesnt seem to be the case Also health officials need to be able to compel people to take the test and then the gov pays for it No opt outsIts a public health emergency the western democracies need to realize that some aspects of personal freedom need to be curtailed to support the public health services Like enduring a 23 week quarantine without testing positive for the virus submitting to tests etc|1 If not the POTUS himself I really wonder who in his staff is the one spreading itArent they tested like every other day anyway|1 I know for sure they were at Sussex uni I dont know the exposure From what I understand it was someone who came from China Felt unwell and isolated at campus I have no idea how much of at all she mixed with anyone But yes she was taken from campus A friend of a friend works there|1 Whats wrong with the leaders of these English speaking countries and were people drunk during election Jesus ok only 3 of them UK US and Australia rest are hmmm give them more time|0 I definitely have been reading about this more than I probably should|1 Reddit has a 1 hour delay to fetch 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elementary children schools all closed for cleaningSome of the people in Houston definitely knew the Maryland people Are you in Texas Im in a neighboring state to Maryland myself And this just in one of my internet friends just wrote that their parents just got back from a Nile cruise but no problem the ships representatives said the ship was clean and safe I believe she lives in Michigan If you dont mind let me know if you discover any new tidbit This Nile cruise events are different|1 How do you propose instituting something like that in America There arent even close to enough LEOs to enforce a full citystate mandatory quarantine or lockdown Do you activate the military for domestic purposes Do you enforce an in home mandatory quarantine Do you close roads Do you impose rationing|1 Learn this please Every fuckin organisation is lying Politics is all about lying And admit this please And human beings do LIE constantlyHere is a brief summaryChina kept information related to the situation hidden until they realised that they were not capable of solving this problem on their own This is why they cooperate not because they are openChina took extreme preventive measures because they can because they had to because they were forced to to provide time for other nationsWHO only creates a scientific network and an organisation scheme And it also informs calms down regular people since it is so called unbiasedneutralStatesgovernments do actually evacuate their people for the sake of public diplomacy They show their power to other nations and show their responsible behaviour to their own nation So they try to protect their image and their votesConclusion Real information is not outside for sure It is either kept classified or there is nothing more to know Pray for scientists and doctors who are willing to find a solution And pray for good people who managed to climb up to higher ranks among those sociopaths and are willing to save regular peopleI wish best for everyone|1 There is no war in Ba Sing Se|0 Im in the same place with my husband All us alarmists need to partner swap kidding Although right after our argument I got to text him the announcement of the 1st case in our town and now hes at the 24hr Walmart finishing our prepping so Ill keep you updated as to my availability|0 Now if thats not denialdelusion then I dont know what is lol|1 Remindful of sequelae like httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2778472|1 Just want to say massive respect to this guy and putting himself in harms way|1 In the aftermath of this the nonconsensual hug receiver could probably drop an assault charge on them at the least|0 Pls tell me how many people wearing masks in the street |1 Im in Sacramento and a family member passed away Funeral is this week in central California and a lot of people are insisting on going I get its a difficult decision but we need to be safe and Im sure if they were still with us they would understand and want us to stay home and be safe|1 But no school closures yet|0 Once you start testing like a maniac the new cases will decrease temporarily because you arent uncovering old infections and are just discovering new infections In the US you are going to have a ridiculous number of new cases once we start really testing because you are going to get all the old undiscover positives|1 Take them to the fucking hospital and keep them there until theyre deemed freeSorry but this is an epidemic And if youre sick youd want to be in the hands of doctors anyway|0 This may be a good plan Desperate times call for desperate measures|0 I too have been watching since the end of January I supposeI got my house in order last monthIve tried to express my concerns to my boss and coworkers too especially since we work in finance and deal with people face to face I have 4 kids one has asthma Im not trying to put my kids in danger for a dumb paycheckI think the point when I show up to work with a mask on my boss with probably send me homeguess Ill find out soon enoughgood luck stay safe and let me just say you are a sweet soul helping out your older family membersim in America that kinda thing isnt really common here|1 Very good of you to take the time Thanks|1 Yeah that makes a little more sense I kinda figured the older people without a full scope of the situation would be the ones already out buying stuff Do you think its likely that it actually gets to a concerning point though Like the disease spread itself though not the snap reactions Even if that can potentially be more dangerous lol|1 This is a global issue you fucking arsehole I am in the United States and wouldnt want this to happen because I like all humans Fuck out of here you trog|1 You know wheres good to look Places like BM and other discount stores People dont usually do their food shopping in places like that they go to Tesco or whatever Its great for getting long life stuffI got a bunch of frozen veggies from Homesavers dunno if thats just a store in Northern Ireland or if you have it in the rest of the UKChopped frozen onions and mushrooms as well as your usual peas etc|1 Thank God I live in a rural area|1 Ill give it to Trump He knows how to make a mountain out of bodies from a rampaging disease|0 How did you find out which hospitals they went to Would love to know for BC|1 Same here Im in Northeast NY I saw this coming a month ago and now the shelves are emptying Stopped in today with my mother in law and it was insane Flourgone Sugargone Shelf stable foods decimated TP is like gold And hand sanitizer and Lysol is non existent My friend who works there said they were breaking up fights yesterday So glad I did my shopping ahead of time and Im not scrambling now|1 It adopts Chinas rates without implementing Chinas policies It also doesnt take in to account the fact that we have many areas with significant outbreaks not just one epicenter with a periphery and fringes Its also assuming the fastest growth is behind us while we already knew that we arent testing nearly enough to catch all cases|1 Yeah thats bullshit Lifes got to go on kids have got to go to school|0 It is correct But in my opinion many people will die before we do that For sure we will see changes in the world after this epidemic|0 Ive seen that but Id like a source for an oddly increased amount of Pneumonia cases in Germany as OP claimed|1 Dont live in fear|1 We would have plenty of masks if we were prepared|1 I just sent out the following email to my CEO For reference Im tach lead for analytics at the company Hi CEO We are in changing times Us developers and marketing have to work from home since Wednesday night Since then we have seen Utah close schools for 2 weeks and today we see that the CDC has announced recommendations to keep schools closed for at least 8 weeks People are freakingout buying tons of toilet paper etcYesterday there was a front page story about a guy who bought12000 bottles of hand sanitizer today his garage was raided by the feds and the story reads that he donated themI could go on but thats not what we should do There are a lot of questions out there what do we do with our kids How do I pay rent Etc But there have been few if any answers from the federal government Utah has been doing an incredible job though and my thought was can we do something to help them We are in a very special place with our recent fund raise and Im sure nobody wants to hear this but what if we halted development and put at least 50 of our resources into answering some of those questions Can we build a website to help organized child care responsibly Food and supply distributionWe can help we can come up with answers and solutions in these trying times Im requesting that you offer at least 50 of your current capacity to address this issue The work and ideas that we have done for the data lake and quick rails apps could have a huge impact maybe not by itself but by others who we inspire to do the same thingPlease unleash Companyto help flatten the curve Im sorry I have tosend this email I never in my life thought I would have to write something like thisbut I was working during September 11th and I remember the impact This is 10x times worse we need to come together but in groups of 5 or less or virtually|1 This could be a VERY strong move to rally the support of the people Or it could be considered criticism|1 Good move I saw reports that downing street were really unhappy with the criticism they were getting over their herd immunity strategyAny transparency we can get particularly from the official medical advisers is welcomed|0 Meh My face sweats in them and its very easy to knock the filtercartridges on something and break the seal At least when climbing in an attic or under a house it is|1 Even on food you see this play out People demand things be loc etc But when it comes to opening up their wallet They scoff at the prices theyll have to pay for local organic food grown by their neighbours and hoard up the cheap GMO stuff shipped in from a third world country Cant have it both ways|1 In the US Trump is literally trying to get Kushner to solve it and he is asking people on his Facebook feed for answers So the US policy is now directed by people stupid enough to follow Kushner Let that sink in|0 They made an even bigger stupid move to pull attention from the fact that they still wont release the number of tested patients|0 I took it more seriously because I remember Chinese response for SARS bird flu swine flu etc They werent cracking down anywhere as hard as this|0 Ummm no Look some of us are going to die thats just the way it is|0 try to do the same and then empty all lungs|0 Ask them to go climb a tree I really doubt trees hold onto the virus for long|0 I wouldnt mind a virus that comes along and literally only kills the sciencedeniers because they refused to prepareNormally I would not condone such a thing however the sciencedeniers are currently in a position to potentially make the entire planet uninhabitable and if its a choice between them or everyone I choose them|0 Chinese people are not fool they are just as smart as you People get back to work will be forced to wear mask all day and test temp twice a day if someones temp is high they will be sent to hospital And the time heshe is confirmed we will track all people that got touched lock down the factory or working room area heshe livenot the room may be the building etc I think we has the most experience about the virus in the world so do take care of youself we will take ours too best wishes for us all|1 Its britain People go out in the rain just to fucking complain that its raining|0 By Jan 20 noone knew better|1 Hey Im also in OK unfortunately The last week or so at work has been an infuriating amount of its just the flu and these millennial snowflakes need to stop freaking out about this its just like swine flu and ebola all day today has been anger from my coworkers about how theyre pissed off their kids couldnt go to school today over nothing its not over nothing|0 Morons|0 What so only you get to enjoy craft cocktails now Weaklings die big deal|0 Theyre dumb and ignorant|0 I understand how you feel Somehow we have to remember this months down the road postshock sadness numbness The blame is with our governments above allThey have had the resources and advanced notice of this we are talking from day 1 of China disclosing the outbreak Many people sadly rely on government go ahead before they implement action themselves If Ive learned one thing as soon as a situation occurs like this again Im following from day one|0 I just mentioned that in another sub Haha|1 She says she didnt do what shes accused of Probably accidentally licked her fingers and called herself out on it TSA agent overreacted As someone whos been yelled at by a very whiny TSA agent in the past I believe the woman|0 The suspicion that the novel coronavirus is an exception to that rule has gained currency in recent days Several new research efforts suggest that asymptomatic or presymptomatic people have been instrumental in seeding local outbreaksIn a study posted Sunday to the website medRxiv epidemiologists who examined a cluster of 91 infections in Singapore found that 48 of them were probably due to transmission by people who either were not very sick or who had not yet developed symptoms of infection And in an outbreak of 135 cases in Chinas Tianjin province they concluded 62 were probably acquired from infected people without evident symptomsThe authors said their findings were preliminary because they have not been widely reviewed by other scientists Still they said they suggest that unseen transmission of the new coronavirus will make it much harder to stomp out than two earlier epidemics involving coronaviruses In the cases of both severe acute respiratory syndrome SARS and Middle East respiratory syndrome MERS presymptomatic transmission did not play an important role the researchers wrote|0 Thank you for your insight|1 They also have a population of people who respect the disease wear masks and wash their hands This has been proven to reduce infection spread and ratesWestern countries are in denial and also dont practice any reasonable precautions|1 It is always a good ideas to give veggies and fruits a washing but realistically the virus is most likely to spread from person to person through close contact and respiratory droplets from coughs and sneezes that can land on a nearby persons mouth or nose according to the CDChttpswwwlivesciencecomhowlongcoronaviruslastsurfaceshtml|1 Why cant we take measures like this Id feel much more safer if they at least put the effort into disinfecting areas more Especially making sure taking test on people as well|1 Did SK do random population sampling I can imagine the 1k tests required would be wasteful in places like Italy where tests are limited but SK has done over 100k tests they could spare 1000 to get solid statistics on true infection rate|1 Nope I agree Just dont have time right now|0 Why do people consider this an issue If you are not dying but you suspect you might have corona then simply stay at home I get that people are curious and want to know whether they have it or not but right now we should focus on those that actually need the help|1 That means we would need two different vaccines to stop COVID19|0 far few month but if getting worst no hajj for sure 6 to 7 month either can be more risky do hope they create cure vaksin |0 I assure you that if people were paying 1000 for a mask people would find new ways to make masks|1 Idk theres numerous charts its anyone of of the exponential charts|0 What about funerals We have a funeral we are supposed to drive 5 hours to on Friday I really dont want to go but it is for my husbands grandma|0 I work at a nonprofit charity thrift store that literally has the word good in its name No possibility of closing even though our business model is literally taking objects from strangers and selling them to a customer base of elderly peopleI really hope the aftermath of the deaths from corona is a society ready to burn their bosses houses down|1 People call me crazy when I say kneecap him one 40 cal bullet discharged about 5 inches away from his former knee point blank Look at how often this is happeningone example to show all the other idiots|0 CDC hasnt confirmed or denied that humidity isnt a factor Theyre planning on it not being one for conservative reasons|1 Because the demand is skyrocketing|0 Over 997 have mild symptoms if any at all yeah thats a load of horse shit lol WHO says 20 require hospitalization|1 Yeah but that massive run on quarantine supplies is a superspreading event|1 Poor people dont care about stocks only millionairesStocks are doing great in the USA but people cant even afford an ambulance let alone HealthcareLets focus on the important things|0 You do know 10 grams of paracetamol can kill you right You have way more of that than you can take|0 This is the Bible Belt so many people will go to church tomorrow March 15 for the newly declared Day of Prayer They will shake hands with each other They will hold hands in prayer circles|0 The Japanese government is not corrupt like the Chinese red cross Theyre just totally incompetent because they dont do anything with any authority like Chinese government can|0 Do you really imagine that the CDC hasnt come up with a test because they lack the resources That seems highly unlikelyNY is trying to remedy a lack of performance by the CDC not in place of the CDC The CDC has every opportunity to do their job If they fail to do so that isnt because people voted for local and state government based on getting the federal government out of their livesThe FDA and the CDC are institutionally lethargic and have failed to embrace new technologies in the medical field much less promote them That isnt because they dont have sufficient resources as embracing these new technologies would lower costs as has occurred in every field of technological development except medicine|0 Its absurd I think its mainly because many people myself included havent actually had flu Theyve had colds Its a novel virus Why on earth wouldnt we all try and avoid getting it|1 Most of the rest of the developed World has this kind of system for everyone all of the time People mostly go to work unless they are actually sick Amazing to think that if you treat your staff like responsible adults they behave like responsible adults|1 They are dealing with that issue in here todayCompanies that need an employee to stay at home because of sickness or just in case of suspicious symptoms that could be coronavirus will be covered by the national health system from day 1 If you are sick here you need a doctor note and are covered from the 3rd day usuallyThey have not yet talked about people stuck at home when kids are sick or schools are closed though We already have 2000 kids staying at home just in case because they spend their holidays in china or north of italy most of the time|0 thats not the bad part though when shit hits the fan theyll be knocking at your door for help since you knew it was happening than what risk infection or help either way your screwed either your a horrible person for not helping and worrying about your own safety or you chance getting it and passing it to everyone you are close with|1 Ding ding ding we have a winnerWatch those provinces get hit HARD next weeks|0 Yes in any outbreak the numbers will always be underreported We may very well be at pandemic levels right now but we wont know until the cases are confirmed|1 Gurl has to look beautiful when going live JT just fluffing his hair and rubbing beard oil in|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Yeah you cant trust ANYTHING the CCP says For fuck sakes they muzzled the Dr who first discovered Covid19 and now hes dead|0 i see thanks|1 Covid19 has stopped me from getting laid twice now Somehow all the women I know have been DTF all of a sudden and Ive had to turn two down to keep my fiance from getting sick Covid19more like Cockblock19 and before anyone assumes anything negative we have an open relationship|0 That was coronavirus first mistake Started killing too early before it could spread everywhere Now Madagascar has closed its borders so itll never get 100|0 I have children I felt it was my responsibility to not own one for that reason Geez i never expected the government to protect me Thanks for the dispassionate reply to my response|1 Wow|1 Why would the infection rate be so much higher in the US than a country like China where so far the infection rate is 1 in 20000 Thats a rate of at least 1 in 5|1 OP has been infected|0 China had ample opportunity to clean up its disgusting hygiene Where were the Chinese when wolf pups were slaughtered in markets Dont put their situation on MY country They are not unwilling victims|1 Yeah its karma for everyone from nature|1 Hope so|1 Except when traditional racial categories fail to actually capture or describe real population differences in humans For example the racial category of latinos fails to describe the very real fact that those described as Latinos share ancestry from many different populations So no race is not a proxy for genotype it is a proxy for the social view of a particular group nothing more|0 Dire by sustainable resources standards We are utilizing resources that took millions of years to form in order to feed cloth and entertain current population numbers Look up into phosphorus importance in fertilization If nothing changes in current trends we will run out in 3050 years and it will lead to massive think billions famine Now i do hope we will move to better farming techniques by then but the dangers are certainly thereA great example is the ozone layer We knew it was going to get fucked up we saw it started to get fucked up then we banned a multitude of products worldwide in the best example of united effort of humanity that i know and we saved the ozone layer Of course there were plenty of people claiming that all the bad predictions didnt came true Yes they didnt because we took active action to prevent them|0 Its hard to imagine Trump wearing a mask as he tours infected cities Should he|0 By telling us that theres something but refusing to do much else he has contributed very little|0 According to Singapore warmer weather doesnt work|1 The exact same scenario is happening in Germany Nobody at the Border or at the Airport is even asking a single thing about where im coming from or if i have been anywhere near a epicenter of an outbreak I have been to Shenzhen about 25 weeks ago and nobody gave a fuck when reentering Germany I went to Pakistan of all places 5 days ago and they literally questioned every arriving passenger for 10 Minutes and took temperatures and even did some testing by taking a little drop of blood from your finger from everybody It took almost 2 hours to get through security after they were done checking everything and everyone Something i wouldnt expect in a third world country but instead in a Place like Germany But for some reason nobody is even remotely trying to keep the virus out of Germany Just like nobody is in the US I honestly dont feel safe on the streets anymore after hearing of so many cases here|1 Other hospitals in outbreak areas have reported this and responded by locking up masks There should be a special kind of jail for the evil people who did this Front line staff put their lives on the line to help others what a shame|0 We dont even do that in the middle east They have to go door to door No chance theyre going to carpet bomb entire US cities|0 the comparison is weak They are slowing it of course Also they didnt know the magnitude of the problem for some time therefore taking the full brunt of the initial spread We have the advantage of knowledge about the severity But useless without action|0 Please keep safe keep us updated and I sincerely hope that you can get tested as they roll out expanded criterion or better that you feel better and it doesnt matter so much And write to your MP if possible theres a chance they could bring it up in Parliament its on everyones minds and lips at the moment|1 The majority of folks in my orbit have been making me feel like a crazy person and blaming everything on the media causing panic I sat one of them down last night and explained whats really happening and all the scary shit that isnt plastered all over the media precisely because it would cause mass panic and they completely backed down on their antimedia views To be specific I talked about the number of available hospital beds the rates of hospitalization the number of ventilators exponential growth etc A lot of people are taking solace in that 1 death rate not understanding that once we run out of ventilators or beds or healthcare workers that rate for every infection above the curve becomes more like 20 Also small percentages can still create big numbers when were talking about potentially billions of people being infected|0 I mean thats almost definitely not coronavirus then from what little I understand Its also cold and flu season who knows You could call one of the nursing help lines or something Im not a doctor and you certainly shouldnt take medical advice over the internet Hell maybe youve developed some allergies Even if you dont normally you may be having a reaction with enough allergens in the air|0 To put this into perspective Imagine you had coronavirus Now you probably live alone with a special other maybe some kids But imagine the government shows up and welds your door shut and puts steel bars around your windows with police officers on your street just an extra measure Even if you wanted to spread the coronavirus how the hell would you do that Go outside you get caught and repeated offenders will likely be punished Stay inside you can spread at most to your wife maybe the kidsNow on the other hand imagine you have the coronavirus in the NYC You cant even get tested so you dont know You hear TOOLs in New Zealand and youve been riding the subway bumping butts with passengers in your daily commute with this weird cough You decide to take a taxi to the airport after that and then fly to New Zealand for a packed concert with 10000 people Guess what With all the possibilities for transmission literally no one will stop you Youre not flying from an area thats currently facing an epidemic according to the CDC anyways so youll be greeted with hugs and open arms as you spread the virus across the world|0 I like how this has no visible correlation to covid19|1 If I saw you I would call you smart Fuck anyone Your health is your concern|0 I go to college in NYC full of Chinese exchange students Ill see this shit happen right before my eyes|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Hope you get more upvoteshttpscnsnewscomarticleinternationalmichaelwchapmancdcestimate45millionflucases61000fluassociated|1 so in your opinion we are just supposed to wait and die until there is a vaccnation right|0 And the huge implication of person to person transmission still being very possible even if all of the surfaces are wiped downThis reactive mindset is going to make our peak a fuck of a lot worse than Italy and Italy hasnt even hit theirs yet|0 If Im here I will help with that|1 Are you going to be going to work in the midst of the outbreakyou mean like tomorrow and the day after yes actually i am going to work if i feel sick i call out sick thats how it worksif i tell my boss i am scared to get sick thats not an excuse not to go|0 There is the possibility of lung damage and immune compromisation long term after recovery for some too So little is still known|0 Giving yourself an IV seems like a bad idea especially if seriously ill But like I said no one knows what levels would help if any In the study I linked below they showed the ARDS patients were deficient so infused 50 mgkg every 6 hours for 96 hours At 168 hrs most were deficient again httpsiibbcojbSzN89ards2png|0 Unfortunately there are probably many more like her |1 China is doing well|1 The size most definitely matters when comparing numbers Yeah it does|1 Whos a very good boy|1 I use a few masks every week for cleaning with asthma Im in the midwest US no cases in my state and I havent been able to buy them for over a month|0 Believe it or not and get back to me in about a month on this I genuinely think the hospital bills will somehow be comped or paid for by the govt We will easily see over 500000 to 1 million hospitalized by the end of the month guaranteed The number of bankruptcies and economic toll otherwise would send us into a major depression|0 Agreed|1 As soon as low wage service workers in the California bay area get sick the bay area is fuckedRent is astronomical workers are exploited to shit and missing work means being homeless|0 Havent studied enough to know but generally thats what happens with these things Swine flu infected like 60 million in the US alone and was over within about a year|0 No ragrets|0 Just saw Very good synopsis thank you|1 100 agree But I would additionally test a lot more of the population than that|1 those have been withdrawn weeks ago when fears started pandemic bonds are a joke and are just a way for rich people to store money and withdraw it right before pandemics occur|1 The most profitable part of Disney is actually the Disney parks now Iger has gutted disney to turn a quick buck and now we see the results of that|1 I knew we were on the same page lol|1 N matter how early is the patient 0 China will declaim its the USs fault Trust me|1 Boris might throw some money at them to get them through the flu season |0 Fuck China and fuck the Who who care more about optics than the problem ravaging their country and economy|0 And we still have people who deny it as much of an issue|0 I am glad that I am a student right now And I get to walk away I am honestly waiting for the program to say OK classes are on hold|1 She was in the right FDA took its sweet time cutting thru red tape in a time when everyone knew it was becoming an emergency Those laws are there for a reason Even Dr Chu said that Thishttpswwwnytimescom20200310uscoronavirustestingdelayshtml is a good read of the whole issue|1 Im honestly surprised we have access to see their content|1 Im technically an essential employee at the animal shelter i work at Were constantly understaffed and we have to go in the animals need to be taken care of|1 Oh crap|0 If theyd aggressively gone after this thing and kept people alert rather than sacrificing a huge chunk of their labor capacity for a month more of profits theyd have a much more solid market|1 They may very well be right about that It will still give us some delay If not enough for a vaccine that may be too optimistic then enough for a few more mechanical ventilators and medical supplies to be manufacturedAnd yes British of course My apologies fixed it above Time to go to sleep |1 Just a bunch of shirtless guys hugging each other Its not like this virus is transmitted via close contact oh wait|1 Oh wow didnt know that Just went off and had a listen|1 I got a youre wearing a tinfoil hat comment when I posted in my companies sub and a bunch of downvotes lolConsidering I work for a major US retail pharmacy I thought it might be a good idea to give people real info Ah well|1 you stated unequivocally my posts are misleading|0 I didnt I was just sharing|0 I dont think you understand how this works and how contagious itnis if you compare it to the flu Its way easier to protect yourself from the flu than from this|0 Hope you get well You are a great writer|1 Being overweight is definitely a risk factor for the flu and a great deal of other respiratory problems It is nothing to do with the fat in your body helping the virus but all to do with every day your organs have to work harder to keep your body working Your organs are already under a great deal of strain so when you add to that pile they will fail quicker than someone who has organs working at normal capacity In particular your heart and your lungsThere are no studies and not enough data for COVID19 to make any statements directly linking obesity to death rates but I live in the UK and the NHS now gives people with a high BMI a free flu vaccination along with people with compromised immune systems and the elderly because of the additional risk factor for them which has been proven with dataYou should assume you are higher risk because of being obese but you are also very low risk because you are 26 You should take all precautions necessary just to be sure as should everyone anyway as even if you are healthy yourself you undoubtedly will come into contact with people in risk groups and wouldnt want to pass it on to them either|0 I have to login to some crap is there another link|0 Only conceivable bigger event would be ww3 nuclear war or outright collapse|0 To that let me borrow the words of Ron Swanson Government is inefficient and should be dissolved Good day|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 You sleep in history class cause u dont know that south was richer than the North So maybe its not entirely south fault just saying|1 Its not just the coronavirus that threatens how high our death toll will truly be Consider heart attacks strokes seizures car accidents if hospitals are incapacitated by the virus how will they seek treatment Those are only a few of the health problems we can treat Now image what will happen to the death toll when people cant seek treatment in a timely manner for normal health emergencies|0 I think that if there were still a team they are probably better prepared now and learned from that and could help Now theres no at the very least tribal knowledge around to get to this thing|1 I dont mean to pick on specifics but if youre using a diluted bleach solution it needs to be remixed and used in a non see through bottle frequently it doesnt keep long for sanitation purposes Check your bleach labelGoogle I learned this in my vet med classes tried telling an employer years ago and got laughed at|1 Its not if its when We have a month tops|1 The fact that the France emergency room missed this is a bit of a failure|0 Damn I wish I was wrong Swiss authorities are keeping schools open because theyd rather not have older relatives or grandparents taking care of infectious children while parents are at work Those kids would be fine but older adults would be put at risk|0 During hurricane Katrina it took the gov 5 days to get water to people in NO I have zero faith that our government will take care of us during this They have proved me right so far|1 So it means they dont know where this person contracted the virus Then this is community transmission right Or it means this person got from someone from the list a few days ago close contact or close contact close contact like my colleague had dinner with a couple who were having a face to face meeting with a guy coming back from traveling |1 you dont happen to have a link to any of those studies do you id be interested in reading those i actually just did a quick google search on the subject and came up with nothing mostly just all the recent COVID19 stories regarding the CDC and masks weve all seen by now|1 Awesome thank you|1 The government was never prepared and is now basically covering it up by not reporting all the cases anymore Im pretty sure I know at least 5 people who have it out of like less than a thousand Who knows I might already have it myself|1 They want you to sell them a bridge|1 Cruise ships are the worst places to quarantine people in since theyre so small and crampedQuarantine was invented for ships And this is a luxury ship They had larger rooms than most hotels Only the crew members had the short straw Honestly speaking why the fuck did Japan make people stay on the cruise shipCome on thinkJust imagine a solution draw it on paper and try to execute it Even mentally Find a way to keep quarantine of noninfectedyet or potentially infected people keep them from crossinfection as wellImplementing a quarantine on potentially infected people means also at all time not putting them together without a separation Not even on a busairplaneCan you find a single quarantine space that has 3700 isolated rooms Without risking an epidemic in the most crowded city on earthCan you find a way to transport 3700 ppl to that place without mixing them together Even put together in crowded buses thats 80 busesThis is NOT an airplane with 200 ppl on board this is 18 airplanes|0 No But resources will still be allocated where they are more effectively used Even under a socialized medical system a hospital will be built where the population density is high vs the middle of nowhere And even if built there would be trouble getting people to want to move out to the middle of nowhere and work in this medical center|0 This idea was posted on rcrazyideas yesterday Now the questionIs this a realistic idea for other countries or are Italians just crazy|0 This feels like a game of plague incEdit I always started in China too|1 Im not a doctor but wouldnt that be a late development of an infection Like something that happens after a few days of high temperatures Tats how it played out for me each time I got a bad infection first few daysweeks of light symptoms then days of temps and then bad infection of the lungsAnways OP should try to calm down until a qualified doctor diagnoses them|0 If this was done with perfect data itd mean getting diagnosed increases your chances about 2x of dying at a given age|1 Pneumonia comes in a whole variety of shapes and flavors It can range from being short of breath to intractable acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDS that requires intubation and mechanical ventilation 13 of people getting some form of pneumonia is by no means a death sentence for the vast majority of those folks Most of them probably wont even require intubation|0 Because if there are 5070 of positive cases out there that dont know if because they havent been tested new news coming out of Italy then you are really looking at 1012 hospitalized rate instead of 20|1 GREAT questionIll take a stab at it There are a few points1 In general masks will not really reduce the chances of uninfected people from acquiring COVID192 If someone has a COVID19 infection or another respiratory viral infection masks will reduce their risk of transmitting it to others Many people wearing masks N95 or surgical do not wear them properly continue to touch their face to adjust their mask which can put them at greater risk of getting the infection and often reuse masks rendering them to be rather useless Hand hygiene is key Also being mindful of not touching your face is helpful albeit easy to say and hard to do Isaac Bogoch MD|1 Yes actually I still have an exam scheduled for the 19th but I guess will be canceled|1 This was 100 a cull on the vulnerable and they were just going to let this happen rather than taking action Typical Tory scum|0 Nice narration|1 Ridiculous comments China is not safer than the USA First SARS then THIS whats next|0 Ive read that they count a dead by coronavirus only if the person had not other health issue Otherwise it doesnt count My source is a tweet that was citing the news from the main public Italian TV channel but I havent fact checked it But if true low my ass|0 When I imagine that viruses will adopt the MLM system|0 Why is there so much fear over a virus thousands of miles awayThe thing that is likely to kill an under 30 year old is the humble carIf we had posts of the number of Americans killed in automobile accidents then we would have charts showing 100 a day killed and many thousands receiving life changing injuries|0 The CDC doesnt even have the authority to gag anyone She broke privacy laws to test samples at a research lab and OP made up the rest|0 Thanks for finding this I have added it to httpscvmasksgithubio It is difficult to summarize it and be positive about its conclusions It would be nice if the weave of the materials were discussed eg httpsenwikipediaorgwikiUnitsoftextilemeasurementThreadcount or something more scientificThoughts|1 Dont make this left vs right Many on the right are disappointed at Trumps lack of response as well|0 Is there any reason travel from the UK hasnt been banned We have it here too|1 In Greece they perform about 100 per day Private clinics charge 300euros where the base salary is about 500600euros Private positive tests are not published|1 Thank you so much for the info|1 You sound like one of those dumbasses who think the Spanish Flu was Spanish Last I checked that name was created from a giant misconception but we still call it that to this day 102 years later because thats what everyone knew it by since it started widely spreading across the globe|1 Then perhaps you should try formatting your copypaste better|1 Even China which had the worst of it all did not have that number for those hospitalizedThese numbers are just fear mongering and should be squashed Most people cannot analyse and will feed into their fears|0 Good Why would you do that anyways The treatment for the flu is stay home rest drink lots of fluids and take nyquil|1 I would plan for 4 weeks to be honest There are a few people who incubate longer than 14 days|1 I think were close to the govt banningrecommending not to have large gatherings But of course by the time they call it it will be too late for a lot of people I have no evidence for this just a feeling from my observations of how theyve been handling this|0 They areThey also carry the virus load without symptomsDont post your stupid opinions as fact|0 You are welcome to believe that But if you called yourself a Christian while believing that about God I could safely point out that you might not ACTUALLY be a Christian And thats all Im saying here is that these people are not necessarily any more Christian than you|1 More like weakling|1 Coviid Coviiid Coviiiiid nineteeeen Im begging of you please dont take my man Dolly Parton|1 Wow would be scary to be living over there hearing your own Gov blatantly say these things|1 Damn we need to stay away from bats|0 There are buildings in Capitol Hill around Madison and James street by the University and Hospitals and Beacon Hill near VA hospitalto the south being quarantined and claimed some motelsin anticipation for potential sick in those areas Thats all I know Some of my friends were saying they saw police blocking traffic and taping off residential buildings near the hospitals|0 If UBI were in place stopping COVID19 would be possible|0 I smoke weed everyday so this isnt a problem though lung health might be lolon a serious note Im going to have to check my multivitamin vs daily requirements I eat very well so I dont think Im going to be missing out on too much|1 Immunity long overdue contagion I exhale you|0 Jesus Reading all these comments from people in my age groupMy brother got it and he described it in exactly the same way No basement but everything else exactly|0 Do you mean that most restaurant owners should be able to pay all fixed costs rent insurance mortgage loans salaries utilities etc take a loss on perishable supplies already purchased while bringing in ZERO revenue for weeks with personal savings AND still be able to cover the fixed costs in their personal lives rent insurance mortgage food utilities car payments cable phones kids credit cards again for weeks with absolutely no income The restaurant business gets hit hard based on just a disastrous economy alone usually one of the first industries to suffer Throw in the coronavirus fear of going anywhere business will drop exponentially Then just close the doors for a few weeks and cover all of these expenses with savings Then survive reopening and have business still down probably 40 because a lot of people lost a lot of money recently and it will take a long time for the country to come back from this one Are you thinking a savings account in a bank at what I think may be down to 1 I am not in the restaurant business but I cant imagine there are many people that could make it work on savings I hope so I really do Restaurant owners and chefs seem to always have such passion love and pride in what they do I hate when I see a restaurant go under|1 Ooohhhhhhh so thats what the CDC has been doing Finding a calculator strong enough to add it all up|1 Nice I just unsubscribe them last month|1 httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfaxr6dgotenoughdmrequeststodecidetomakeapostiutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare very useful|1 Much appreciated I will also join then|1 Bless you|1 Not to mention he was probably receiving a new source of infection every single day That cant help|0 Obviously not You ingest the Anti biotics And the soap kills the bacteria before it enters your lungs you hope|0 Has a nice ring to it|1 Spoiled and entitled How many average Joes get to go on a trip to Italy in school Thats more for the wealthy|1 I dont think US properly understand the situation Let me me tell you about the situation here in Slovaika Over 1000 tested 21 infected Since today all schools universities dorms churches aquaparks ski resorts cinemas galleries museums sport events etc closed All bigger events canceled All international airports closed international bus transport trains denied Border controls All foreigners denied entrance to the country If you are slovak national or slovak resident coming from abroad you can enter but 14 days quarantine is mandatory National public transport is working in restricted regime People are advised to not leave their homes if not necessarily Now its important to say that slovakia is probably at much higher risk due to many people being exposed to italians germans etc but it is not a joke I feel like us government is behind the point when they are just scared to test people to find out the true numbersAnd honestly in us that may cause a big public unrest unlike in europe when europeans are more trusty in their governments and also more wilig to obey some rules in case to keep order Some more like swiss some less like italians or even here slovaks But some riots violence power struggle etc in europe us very unlikelyI fear that the US government now understand the situation and they are behind the point when telling the truth now could make a lot of damage so they try to play it safe|0 If you cant read and comprehend I cant help you|0 Feels like all that we are trying to do is worthless at this pointNot worthless exactly It will mean that those coworkers get sick before us and many will have the benefit of a still functioning healthcare system while we ultimately die at home because theyve already overwhelmed the system|0 My dad stepmom live in Santa Clara county were in close repeated contact with students traveling back and forth from China both they and 13 of the class became ill They have all the symptoms and tested negative for the flu Yet they couldnt get tested The cdc majorly screwed up after insisting on making its own test kits Now were weeks behind a very fast moving virus|0 Just take a small pack of Lysol wipes with you and use them when ever you use a door knob or something Virus or not thats a good idea|0 Youre watching too much propaganda and FB memes|0 I would really like to see an independent journalist and doctor interview some of the recovered More information is more information|1 Home deliveries until those stop Then masked and goggled up trips out Ideally stock up to avoid going out|0 London riots will not be a patch on what we could see in a few weeks These kids will soon stop caring about postcode wars when their parentsgrandparents are dying in front of them|0 I think I agree it would still have been a logistical nightmare just not necessarily impossible|1 Because of low ticket prices and low accomodation costs as airlines and hotels reduce price to attract customers I have seen people being attracted to that because they can save a lot of money especially students in their twenties|1 I think elederly individuals with chronic conditions need to start social distancing now Sick relatives should not come to visit Dr Carlos del Rio|0 Tough question not in EnglishThis is German idealism Hegel to be specificCurrent English analytical philosophy is focussing on Fichte a metaphorical teacher of Hegel so you probably can find a lot of good stuff thereRobert Brandom is a current USAmerican HegelianHe actually held lectures in the last years not far from me but I couldnt make it to visit him|1 Good to see that Italy is taking quick decisive actions to contain the spread|1 It was over 300K a few days ago Seems like it should be higher by now|1 Youre right I just care for this person a lot hes my lifelong best friend and Im going to be the best man I would absolutely hate to disappoint him but I hope he will understand|1 Friend of a friend of an exposure is not a case Deep River is the same Someone was in contact with someone and is a local sports teacher It doenst mean they have it Relax|1 KEEP THE ECON STRONG MAGA|1 Yup Its about to get catastrophic Were going to have to cremate bodies in the thousands and get them to families at some unspecified point in the future Cant be having funerals right now|0 Charge this old lady with the same laws they throw at people for screaming fire in a crowded movie theater|0 My grandmother born 1899 was 19 years old during the Spanish Flu Pandemic in Philadelphia Her family survived because her parents made them all stay inside for over a month 1 person would cover up and go to the corner store to get food once a week She told us she would watch through the windows of her neighbors laying out their dead in the streets|0 There could be enough ventilators for everyone regardless of population density if the state could decide what and how many commodities need to be produced and distribute them as needed Instead not only is profit prioritized over people but workers are using their labour on things that are absolutely useless to dealing with this crisis and human lives and wellbeing are treated like just another commodity to be exploited|0 Dental Hygienist here Im 36 weeks pregnant and have gone off on maternity leave early over this very thing We simply are not being properly advised on what to do here Anyone who enters a dental clinic will be exposed to aerosols produced when a hygienist uses an ultrasonic or piezoelectric scaler These aerosols can last in the air for up to three hours This is the reason we wear masks goggles facesheilds and disposable gowns and practice owners are encouraged to have proper ventilation So what does that mean for the clinicians and clients potential exposure as we have no way of knowing who is an asymptomatic carrier Heck people dont even want to expose themselves as a recent traveler currently Ive had people lie in my chair numerous times over their medical health history only to be found out when the dentist comes in the room that they just had surgeryMy advice postpone routine dental caredental work unless its an emergency Oral health is very important but it can waitKeep flossing though ya filthy animals And keep safe everyone|1 Dont need to copy SouthKorea on this Copy what Bill Gates is doing for Seattle He said that he will provide Virus testing kits for any Seattle residents who suspects virus infectionThats what needs to be done right now and can be done in no time if America asks to Bill gates|0 Please stop spreading misinformation Do a literature search Surgical masks are less effective than N95s but better than nothing A ripped up tshirt worn over mouth and nose is better than nothinghttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799 All types of masks reduced aerosol exposure relatively stable over time unaffected by duration of wear or type of activity but with a high degree of individual variation Personal respirators were more efficient than surgical masks which were more efficient than homemade masks Regardless of mask type children were less well protected Outward protection mask wearing by a mechanical head was less effective than inward protection mask wearing by healthy volunteers ConclusionsSignificance Any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmission|1 What exactly more do they expect from the gov Controlling a billion people and making society work is not easy Just look at Africa India etc China is doing well Fuck this bitch She should be executed Resist what Do they want to start a revolution right in the middle of a virus outbreak LOL|0 Took me forever to find something It was on the front page of Bing which is how I first knew about it Pneumonia of unknown cause was the title of it I tried looking for it again but couldnt find it Seems like everyone is on board that it happened late December It started gaining attention late December httpswwwbbccomfuturearticle20200221coronavirustheharmfulhuntforcovid19spatientzerorefererhttps3A2F2Fwwwbingcom2F|1 I really hope that weve climbed too much|1 httpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealth20200225cdccoronavirustestThis article says 426 but I would hope the CDC has more accurate numbers on its own website Then again who the f knows anymore Theres no reliable information on the gravity of the situation in the US at present|1 Health and pandemic responses are political issues Surely|1 something like 384 deaths in the last 24 hourtime to celebrate|1 Bastards were hoping wed be willing to pay double for them to supply the valves I hope judges smack this one down and call them degenerate greedy bastards trying to profit from suffering to their faces|0 The problem is that he always looks a bit sick|0 And not to mention the lack of trained nurses for ICU who cant be produced overnight or the lack of incubators and other necessary machines|0 So If they are now counting ones with confirmed pneumonia how many have died in the last two months as cause of death pneumonia The death toll published is much less I hope they count every recorded pneumonia death and add it to the tally|0 How about we actually try quarantines before preemptively declaring them impossibleA concert should be easy to shut down given its many points of failure If for instance the audio equipment supplier complies everyone else will comply because there will be no concert to attend|0 The foreigner ban All of ChinaThe 14 day Quarentine for US Citizens Hubei Province Only|0 I have friends in China They said food delivery has been booming|1 Spam eggs and seasoned potatoes is one of my favorite breakfasts|1 Good luck with that The longer this goes on and the worse it is the better it is for the billionaires and megacorps After all the momandpop stores go bankrupt everyone will be left shopping from Amazon Wallmart and Target Were set up to become even more of a company town if the government doesnt start taking from the very rich to provide a meaningful safety net for everyone else and quickly|1 Ok some states have a waiting time of a week from the time you lose your job before you can apply If youre accepted waiting time for the first check is usually another 23 weeks Thats up to a month without pay I dont know your situation but most Americans cant afford to wait that long|1 The viruses pierce into your cells inject the viral code and then your cells become little factories to create more virusesThis possible medication may stop the viruses from being able to inject your cells rending the viruses useless|0 Lovely post well done The title is perfect too |1 This china is in a bad place at the moment Trump holds all the cards If he sends help He can get real numbers and even blackmails ccp for better trade deals My suspicion is he is playing nice because he knows if CCP let Americans help he will get even more leverage as he will hold secrets The real numbers of fatalities etc|1 Theyre still wearing masks in this photo But the virus can enter through your eyes as well so its best to keep it off your face entirely|1 No ones buying it just look at the stock market|0 What drives me crazy is that these woke reporters when we need real questions ask multiple times if he is causing racism by calling it china flu so sick of this bs worrying about if we are going to offend the country by naming it I think most people in China could care less and are not offended just the government|0 I can tell you how it works in Beijing If you want to order fruitsvegs you can order basically a box from the grocery There are a few different varieties of boxes but no customization If you want anything specific like kitty litter you can go on Eleme and order it from a shop there Or you can go out and buy it in person theres basically 0 shortages in BeijingYou do have to get temp checked if you come back from a shop but my building doesnt bother if youre just running to pick up a package or throw out the trash|1 Not possible If its a billion then its the collapse of all civilisation and more like 5 billion deaths|0 WHAT NO|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfe4k7muniversityofwashingtondevelopstheirownfjnpavucontext3 was automatically removed because it linked to a website that is especially unreliable and that may promote disinformationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Frankly I agree with them If people are couped up inside for 14 weeks folks will give less of a shit by week 10 through fatigue and stress Us British people are a stubborn lot even washing their hands after taking a shit seems like a chore to some|0 Not to sound like a crazy person but avoid that trip Dont go near LAX Depending on the California situation it could already be spreading all over even though people arent displaying yet|0 Chances are your landlord is older too|1 Not really 15 is pretty acceptable losses that would really free up resources for the young Think of all those houses and savings that will get passed down once the old are all wiped out|1 We are well past that with the cases of community spread that have been reported|1 Good on you Ive only got about a month of supplies and thats not counting helping neighborsfamilyfriends|1 It is a major dick move regardless of ethnicity or nationality|0 the school i work at is closing for 3 weeks beginning today but us lowly custodians still have to work in the meeting about it today a joke was made calling us canaries in a coal mine fuck this shit|0 Nice pm sent|1 Of course I am and there likely were some complications from missing medical history or secondary infections etcThe possibility though and the unknown is something that can drive a person insane I agree|0 Gonna need a new categoryarent weNot like this will be the last execution hey Moderators lets bring this forward to the new reality of China cant hurt unless you in China|1 Right wing fox news viewers media is over hyping thisAlso right wing fox news viewers millennials are so selfish|0 It does make me feel better Wait I work with psych patients in a facility setting Shit|0 Im sorry for my ignorance Get mad at me if you want but why exactly are the measures in response to Coronavirus so incredibly drastic compared to usual flu I know they are caused by different viruses and coronavirus is new so there arent vaccines and treatment plans yet But the numbers are so sigificantly different There are over a billion cases of flu each year and only known 150000 coronavirus cases so far worldwide Several hundred thousand people die every year from flu related complications and around 2000 known deaths so far from Coronavirus I guess numbers would go up with better testing and accurate testing of all flulike cases but would deaths go up too Are there really 10000x the currently know cases floating around or expected to develop I mean it made it through a country of over a billion people with only 80000 cases and 3000 deaths Obviously any deaths are too many but like is the response really called for Is it really necessary to shut the entire country down for 3 months Schools colleges sports all public events And for us all to shut ourselves inside and lock ourselves into separate rooms from our own family members What precedent is there for this What other viruses or diseases have had a similar response For H1N1 we all just washed our hands a bit more frequently and stopped highfiving or shaking hands Whats different about Coronavirus to warrant shutting down so many events and institutions and seeing the stock market tumble the way it has|0 This is an unsubstantiated claim With that in mind based on information from WHO and Italy COVID has a seriouscritical case therefore an oxygen treatment rate of around 20 perhaps closer to 50 in Italy since they have over 11 just in critical care|1 If that happens prepare for a major depression|0 for real i dont remember much about this outbreak except the fact i was scared shitless when professor from the university my mom did work in back then died cause of pneumonia caused by it and there was panic all around|0 dont risk going out for the next few weeksmore like next few months|1 While is reasonable to be concerned and there may be temporary shortages due to hoarding food supplies are unlikely to be significantly affected in my opinion Crops will get planted harvested and exported Those of us in Europe the UK and the US are the lucky ones Im not so confident other parts of the world will be so lucky Best of luck We will get through this|1 And when their sputum and blood smears on your face you will die too|0 I know but thats why its so important to remind people of this distinction|1 If China is quarantining millions of people I would guess that China isnt being completely honest with reporting cases and deaths That and the whole hospital thing makes it seem a little more serious than theyre making it out to be Just my opinion though|0 Confirmed or suspected|0 exactly manipulate the market lie to me do whatever Just dont let society break down because whatever comes after is much much worse|0 Im flying back to visit family in NC tomorrow I havent heard of any plans to close my sons school yet tho Thanks for the update|1 They have a giant ass mansion with a private gym and huge private backyard Tons of money to stock up on all kinds of food and staplesI wouldnt leave the property for the rest of the year even if there wasnt a pandemic|0 1020 need hospitalisation 60 population infected is 6 of world population in the ICU Which does not existNobody is garanteeing you a fixed mortality rate at any infection rate|0 If they would have spoke the truth from the start this would be common knowledge|1 Surgical masks do help Its not just N95 masks|1 Completely agree|1 Lol Worse then nuclear war Thats hilarious In a all out nuclear war 95 of the population would be dead within 6 months Try again|0 That chat room thing sounds amazing Actually it sounds like something you could start a business with I imagine a lot of people particularly the elderly would enjoy being able to be remotely together like that|1 I think Canada is managing this rather wellQuarantine will NOT stop the spread of this virus Lets be clear on that Quarantine will merely parse out the cases in a more manageable manner Besides there is no way to convince every single Canadian to follow orders and self isolate So quarantine needs to be very closely managed to ensure productivity remains high in societyClosing the borders with the US could help drastically and relieve the diagnostic burden of testing incoming individuals likely Canadians returning home I imagine the Canadian government will make this decision in about 6 days granted the US publishes the results of mass testing They are our biggest trade partner and closing the door on them has far reaching implications for the future of relations We need a good reason to do itDo we need to shut down the economy Not yet We need to keep the lights on and the preparations rolling until the very last second because this outbreak is going to be inevitable We need to prepare and we need boots on the ground to do it Lets hope Canadians can band together and use their collective intelligence to create a solid foundation on which to fight this thingEducate your loved ones on hygiene enforce honest and caring attitudes towards your neighbors Let your coworkers and employees take the time to be healthy Find no shame in prioritizing anticovid behavioursThis virus doesnt spread itself and we all have a social responsibility to minimize the spread Minimize travel minimize unnecessary exposure to others watch for potential holes in our community defenses Work together and stop making this political Its never been less important to be isolationist in your thinking Share your TP This is a problem that far outreaches the lines we draw on domestic maps Let Canada be an example so we can win the fight here and then help others win the fight in their respective countries|1 Yea the sinus infections are the worst Im glad to hear that Ill be able to breath through my nose|0 Hmm maybe just maybe the government should be paying for the tools students need to learn instead of kids having limited resources or even lunch debt Maybe just MAYBE internet should be considered a public utility like water or electricity|0 Good they were always shit|0 A CPU is a bread knife while a GPU is an industrial bread slicer with a conveyor belt that can slice 120 breads a minuteIf you want a peanut butter jelly sandwich youre better off using the bread knife If you want to set up a factory of peanut butter jelly sandwiches youre better off getting the industrial bread slicing machineIf we take your equation analogy If you want to do the same equation on a LOT of data it would make sense to split the equation into individual steps and run those on a GPU Just like a bread slicer in a factory Usually there isnt enough data to operate on at once to justify thatNow if you can express your entire equation and other equations you need in the same fundamental components matrix multiplication addition and other linear algebra magic then it does make sense to do it on the GPU again But this kind of programming is orders of magnitude harder and computational biologists and computational chemists cant handle itWhy bother when you have supercomputers with thousands of CPU cores They dont have enough data or good enough parallel algorithms to scale to that properly A single GPU might have 5000 CUDA cores The complexity of programming an algorithm that scales that well in parallel is insane Its a lot easier to write code for entire supercomputers than even a single GPU and entire supercomputers are more powerful|1 agreed I went to the ATM on the 28th so I can touch my cash without gloves by saturday how about youof course this only works for people who can afford it|1 ok heres some research geniushttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemaskshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasksbut I suppose you know better than the WHO right|1 Nah theyre about 5050 according to some surveys Ive seen Ive definitely met some conservative antivaxxers|1 It was a joke guess people lost the sense of humor already|1 Dominic Cummings and his band of misfits and weirdos are guiding the government with some half imagined pseudoscience they saw in a YouTube video|0 Death rates and rates of new infection have massively fallen over a consistent period People have started going back to work in China with no huge upswell in new infections|0 Were all feeling that way For now just plan and control what you can Pretty soon the naysayers wont be able to deny it anymore Hang in thereAlso you can check out rCOVID19Support Lots of stories there that will resonate|1 At least he elbowed everyone he greeted|1 The government is holding back face masks to give the impression that the hospitals are running out in order for them to brain wash us into not using them|1 Hey read my subsequent post If you dont make the solution exactly right it might be too dilute Im scratching the aloe vera for now and Im gonna use 75 alcohol in a small spray bottle|0 people will fuck over their own species just for a quick buckThis is new information I am shocked|0 Agreed it sure does not invalidate what you said|1 Heat and also the suns UV rays they use UV to sterilize a number of things and people and clothing and items left in the sun is similar but on a less effective but still noticeable measure|1 Wow|1 Wtf does abundance of caution even mean anymore|0 This entire thing really couldnt have come at a worse time With all the campaign rallies I cant imagine its going to be long before a politician is infected Then add the primary elections being a potential playground for this virus to infect many people at one time Just horrible timing|0 I feel like we should point out the context that Boston Public Schools almost NEVER close even in pretty substantial snow storms|1 Very recently and many factories are operating but no one is working|0 Not to mention It was her spouse The first thing she probably did when she got home was kiss her spouse they probably slept in the same bed were affectionate ect Seems like no duh her spouse would catch the virus|1 If you are able and willing to watch her kids but are allowing your mother to do it because of some silly social impropriety you have perceived Its her job to ask ME you are just as responsible for putting your mother at risk|1 I actually think parks and beaches can stay open as long as they limit the number of people going in You dont really have to be packed like sardines on a beach and if youre a good distance away from other people its not likely to cause significant spread Just need to actually limit people so they can be like 10 ft apart at all timesThis is going to last a very long time folks I dont think avoiding the outdoors entirely is a solution either|1 Except for the deniers saying anyone whos concerned is stupid because its just a flu|0 Check Bath and Body Works if you dont mind smelling like vanilla and papaya for the whole day Bought small hand sanitizers there in Ottawa on Tuesday they had plenty|1 Yay|1 Join my new community ramazonlabor its lonely|0 Lmfao buddy its plainly obvious|1 On my states page about the virus with links to CDC it saysRemember that interaction with someone who had contact with someone who has confirmed COVID19 does not pose a risk if that contact is not sickFrom the CDCs own website a research letter indicating presymptomatic exposure leading to transmissionhttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle265200198articleThey cannot keep their stories straight|1 As long as our internet service doesnt go out My kids would be killing each other after 14 days with no Fortnite|0 As of today tromp still has support of 90 of Republicans|1 Fucks sake please dont postpone doom thats what will keep me entertained during a quarantine|1 I heard a bunch of school kids were gathering in a busy area in Japan to shop and hang around which unfortunately doesnt help much to prevent the spread of disease|0 My family motto ironic that the expression was coined to mean exactly the opposite ikr because just try it its impossible Calvinists Yankees smh|0 We forgot to pay a single bill once and aqua shut it off a couple days before the next was coming due|0 Can we just leave the politics out of iteven though this is reddit lol All politicians suck regardless of party and all politicians would be using this tragedy to their benefit regardless of party|1 No matter what you think your job is you are not recessionproof in the slightestYou may be right but as a medical transcriptionist who works from home Im not likely to run out of work anytime soon |0 herd immunity the resistance to the spread of a contagious disease within a population that results if a sufficiently high proportion of individuals are immune to the diseaseOnce 60 to 80 have been infected the idea is that they then once recovered have immunity and spread of the disease becomes harder for the rest Of course we dont know if the recovered have immunity at the minute|0 Switzerland has a billion time the land mass and natural resources that Singapore has Im being hyperbolic of courseSingapore literally shouldnt be a thing They cannot self sustain whatsoever If a neighbor stops giving them water and blockades them the entire city can quickly dieSingapore also has a billion times the racial and religious diversity the Swiss has Again Im being hyperbolic They had race riots that could have brought the city to its knees Their neighbors had ethnic mass murdersSwitzerland is surrounded by developed economies democracies and rule of law Singapore is notThe two situations are very different I do not imagine that Singapores leadership would have randomly placed restrictions on freedoms without good reason If you look at the history of why they restrict certain freedoms like criticizing religion its to literally prevent their diverse population from going to civil warLook at what happens in Europe when someone dares draw the prophet mohammed Assassinationmurder Imagine what that would be like if muslims made up the same proportion of Switzerland population as does Singapores You really think the Swiss would continue being able to freely criticize other religions|1 Hypothetically if you dont have assets what can they do if you cant pay for treatment|0 I dont understand how theyre tracking cases anymore Today I was told by my doctor to isolate until I was symptom free but that I couldnt get an official test because there are none available So presumed cases like mine would likely not be reported Im guessing|1 Fucking disgusting I hope he catches it and is only allowed to take his cure|0 I did Smells like dotcom in a big way|1 The biggest problem is that our hospitals are not ready for an influx of patients Maybe the death rate isnt high but the rate of criticalsevere people is not good and will overload all medical establishments The only good thing is that the regular flu should start to lessen in March and April And we dont know what COV will do|0 Weeks ago I remember reading on the subject and the conclusion was that exsmokers were much more at risk than smokers but I dont know how true that is given that our understanding of the disease has since then increased|0 No Extreme hot take We arent going to be locked down for 18 months lol|1 According to the people who classify 45 year Olds as old weak people no|0 Still limited|0 ive lost 45k in a week|0 I agree|1 That is very wellwritten and hopefully science fiction Unfortunately it quickly became apparent that the Agent also had other effects About one week after the retardation set in our subjects developed major anxiety and panic attacks Eventually they developed symptoms akin to those of paranoid schizophrenics At that point their bodies rapidly deteriorated They developed massive internal bleeding the walls of their arteries dissolved they bled out of their eyes and orifices and their tissue disintegratedFortunately I havent heard of anyone meltingThe symptoms of this virus are quite bad enough thank you|0 Oh man I was in starbucks today for over an hour they served around 100 customers inside two came in with a dry cough The manager said that wasnt uncommon in the last 2 days We also had our first confirmed corona infection yesterday followed by another confirmed infection todayI did some googling to try to get a backoftheenvelop guess for the chances that two out of 100 people would have a cough for any reason other than corona and happily the chances that it could be something else flu or a chronic condition are much higher than coronaOn the other hand two confirmed cases implies theres at least 8 others that were mild enough to not warrant testing or hospitalization Realistically its probably much much higher than thatIf the epidemiologists Ive been reading arent exaggerating Im a little freaked out right now Seeing two people in the wild with symptoms makes me think the actual infection rate is already through the roofI dont think our healthcare system is going to be ready for the tidal wave thats about to hit Or maybe it was just allergies Well know in 14 days how many of us are already infected right now|1 Cali might not have but I did last week and its been paying quite well|1 The issue is there literally no border no border guards infrstcufrure was all taken downMilitary gotta come there|0 Honestly Because thats where it has to startThe steps that many here are urging Trudeau to take are not the steps that most people at least last week were prepared to acceptPeople react to events When you are talking about profoundly disruptive steps to an economy and peoples way of life you need to have the support of most of the population with you Maybe more than merely mostAnd that takes some time The mood of the nation will take some time to come around Its fluid and a moving targetI personally think March 11 was a bit of a watershed The WHO finally called it what it was a pandemic Italy had 2300 new cases in one day and 200 deaths Trump did his Oval Office speech The NBA shut it down and the NHL will probably follow suit And yes Tom Hanks became a patient with a faceAnd perhaps more importantly Bay Street started to empty on its own The Royal Bank of Canada moved many of its employees at its head office at Front and Bay to work remotely They werent the only ones but they are the biggest financial institution in the country All of this shifts the mood of the country If your plan is to act boldly and skate to where the puck is going you have to take that step at the right time politically to make it workI am not sure if the country is ready for that just yet Many are but when you are spending time on a subreddit like this you have to appreciate many people arent there yetWere close though And the more the urging in the press builds the more people talk about it on talk radio online and on TV the people will be emotionally and intellectually prepared for itAnd that is when you act Not as soon as practically possible rather as soon as politically possible|1 Stop enabling their communist government by taking all our business elsewhere would be a start|0 Is the entire planet in a race to see whos the stupidest What is this shit|0 Ill throw a random one in US forces in the DMZ in Korea were and are falling ill in something that could have been flagged weeks ago However that cant be relayed to the public The Pentagon may already be dealing with the virus in the field causing force readiness issues|0 Nah gotta be bigger than 5L its 10L at least|0 Meanwhile there is me who gets the are you on drugs questioning after a 10hr overnight flight with no rest|0 You make EVERYTHING about trump Its obsessive Hes shitty we get itSay something new|0 Hereshttpswwwnaturecomnewsinsidethechineselabpoisedtostudyworldsmostdangerouspathogens121487 an article in Nature about it from 2017 complete with concerns over having this type of facility in a culture which values hierarchy over openness and has allowed SARS to escape containment multiple times|1 Please stay home|1 I was keeping it nonpartisan and international Thanks though|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Trust me Its realCough cough So sick of tv|0 Im Franklin the fantastical fuck falcon|0 no right state though western|0 The best facilities Maybe the best facilities for the ultrarich For the other 99 the US is definitely not the best facilities|1 here you go mate you made my day lmao|1 She currently volunteers at a local place as a nurse that provides food clothing and outpatient medical care to those in need She really is a great lady I would worry about her and my father in laws health if she decided to continue volunteering Maybe that sounds selfish but I really love them both|1 Seasonality isnt a well understood processThe virus may survive for less time or people my be less susceptable to infection or people get infected but dont development disease and are less infections as a consequence|0 Those genes youre referring to ate the HLA genes They code for our immune system or more specifically what antigens our b and t cells can noticeIf we dont have the proper genes to recognize a pathogen correctly we wont make a strong enough responseThis is my theory as to why you see whole families dropping dead even though its supposed to be mild|0 Also remember Brittan was the only one in Europe to outsmart Blitzkrieg The rest of us with our relaxed attitudes might pay it dearly and in tears|1 But why do we love hospitals so much|1 Well I dont have the sock puppets to explain it further to you|1 Understood and fair enough Flushing Queens is a main target so to speak Lets hope the virus misses God speed|1 I have my conspiracy theories because he was young BUT he was probably over worked under a lot of stress overworked from his job threats from government officials pregnant wife So his immune system could be compromised|0 Also dont go beyond 34g a day and be very careful to account for all paracetamol theres preparations for sleeping which contains some|1 Plasma transfusion is said to be working well in general But it failed in this guy possibly because he was already dying from his immune system attacking his organs|0 Yeah its Ok to criticize Xi the CCP or Moon or the WHO but dont dare say anything about Trump when he is actively making deliberate misinformed statements about the virus and failing to direct a measured responseThis sub is not for political debate EXCEPT when political action directly relates to the spread of the virusIf you cant deal with justifiable criticism of people you admire then you need to find a safe space|0 Here in Romania they wish death and curse the Romanians who come from Italy most dont even live there but they could also be just truck drivers coming with supplies but now they closed the borders with Italy When France got terrorists attack all romanians updated their FB profile pic with the french flag and romanians were together with most nations and mourned with them together but now that its their own people they make fun of them and curse them and threaten them with death There are also all kinds of dumbos uninformed some people believe that its just a trick to make medicine more expensive and the virus doesnt exist and the confirmed cases you see on live trackers are just for panicking etc There are other people who still compare this to the flu even a classmate of mine said its just influenza and didnt even bother to explain it to him And not just the Romanians ignorance but the whole worlds we will have to suffer Already 3 people denied self isolation and went to malls etc A cop denied the isolation and got his wife and kids infected I may be evil for wishing this but i hope Romania gets hard very soon because it will be hit hard someday so these ignorant people and normal people who think they are doctors who believe the virus is a myth and other morons saying is the influenza will get the virus then cry for help and regret everything they said Hope every single person to do these things gets lung scars and they wont have a place in the hospital so they can call the virus fakeinfluenza etcPeople mocking preppers saying that 1 died of coronavirus because his supplies fell on him and in 20 years i will tell my kids how i got nothing to wipe my ass because of a virus named after a beerSome people of my country have the brain capacity of an insect|0 he is basically in the post modern equivalent of the stocks right now while we pelt him with rotten apples from the comfort of our own homes|0 Thanks for this|1 Every heard of astymptomatic carriers They are only testing people who have symptoms in Canada but in South Korea they have tested many people people in their 20s and many have the virus and had no symptoms Broad testing has been a crucial part of them stemming the spread which sadly in Canada wont happenNearly every person on earth is ridiculous but until proven otherwise this virus will spread to any unprotected person who has been in immediate contact with a carrier This Border Agent is now a known carrier of the disease and it should be assumed that every person he came into contact with now has the virus|0 Think about it Its mostly killing elderly poor people Those people cost resources to take care of Would killing most of your welfare population be worth the loss to the economy during outbreak Im not smart enough to even guess but things like that have been done all throughout history Not too long ago in China actually|0 Theres one small problem with their approach people have no common sense|0 I suspect things will change but it never had to be this bad|0 Keep in mind Someone who shall remain nameless fired the US Pandemic Response team in 2018|0 Thanks thats what I guessed but its hard to parse with all the vitriol in hereEven a broken clock is right twice a day|0 Like that could be a good hobby but you dont need to do that|1 You cant fight a virus with troops That will only put them at riskIf you believe China you totally can|1 Voluntary or not these Doctors Nurses working the front lines are seriously heroes I cant even imagine the stress and exhaustion theyre going through right now|0 The CDC cant be stupid Are we just over exaggerating on this sub|1 Not sure if they need to be Countries have different protocols on what they see as needing hospitalization and what they see as possible to self isolate at home So it might be a difference in policies|0 Good way to quarantine yourself while ensuring food supplies lol|1 Hello my name is Trumperrr I mean Mr StumpCan I self quarantine myself and collect on the paid leave or do I have to take a test and tell the worldi mean my family my test results in order to get the paid leaveI need an answer soon I have some golfing to do this weekend|0 While we have seen death in younger people those who died outside China were confirmed to have underlying illnesses Furthmore statements from WHO and the CHC confirmed that virus fatalities are typically vunerable populations elderly immunosuppressed children children although are proving to be interesting pointed out in the What we do know article in the NY times children under 18 seems to be showing very little symptoms the groups targeted by most respiratory illnesses Im sure if you had data of the 4000 recovered you would find their median ages to be between 20s and mid 30s|0 And smallpox that shit had a mortality rate of 30|0 Spain is going to fall so sad Quarantine is coming|0 bold of you to assume there is a single home depot that has not sold out of any and all types of masks|1 This is the problem with 50 is the new 30 and other tropisms uhhh no 50 is quite different than 30 and 70 is entirely different than 50|0 Wish you be OK|1 If you get coronavirus in Italy and it only manifests as a fever and cough youre not even counted among the sickYou wont get tested because theres no time or resources so obviously you wont make the count|0 Weve been saying well see in 2 weeks for 2 months now so|1 For some reason a lot of people in this subreddit want the pope to die of coronavirus|0 Rice and dried beans and honey dont go bad These can be kept almost forever httpswwwnationalgeographiccomauhistoryhoneyinthepyramidsaspx|1 There are few things as strong as the exponent|1 Right after the virus reached Greenland too|1 The BR sector has good fundamentals|1 About 50 million Chinese people cant leave their houses plus local stores are running out of condoms from what I hear So yeah expect a lot of babys within 9 months|1 I deal with panleukopenia which is a nasty virus and hard to kill Clorov and Lysol suck at killing Hardy viruses I always use bleach or accelerated hydrogen peroxide solution Or steam A good steam cleaner that heats to 220 degrees kills a lot|0 Finally a Good News that isnt blatant Chinese propa|1 Rest in peace What a display of willpower|1 Eradication seems unlikely so Ive read lately as even very old diseases are apparently in the population but we are vaccinated so they arent an issue A vaccine for Covid could be 2 years away In the meantime my understanding is most people will get it eventually and then herd immunity may help others not get it like the flu and measles|0 Lol nice try Im not going anywhere near that shithole|1 Its worth mentioning that symptoms are usually mild for the first week at the least and severe cases tend to last for 36 weeks as opposed to 2 weeks for mild cases Which means that in South Korea and Italy the amount of severe cases could still rise|0 Im in quarantine I still have a cough still have fluid in my lungs still have shortness of breath My fever ranges from 1015F to 1023F Im still waiting to be tested I have not felt my symptoms get any better|1 The irony in flying all over the world during a pandemic and then bitching about long lines for screening|0 Its gen y by the way It got erased and overwritten when tech use increased but its still gen y to me|1 I remember reading that as well the narrow sample set from this study contradicts that which is interesting but not indicative of anything|1 Yeah honestly the reason Corona virus making big headlines about deaths etc is because its new People die from the regular flu on a daily basis but we dont talk about that shit because its a common thing now Imagine when the flu was first discovered Exact same shit as this|0 Thats very cool thank you for sharing|1 Thank you againThats good that the first effort is to get core industries going food hygiene etc for the people I think thats a smart decision because you get people fed you get them healthy and provide the means for them to stay healthy then people can return to work|1 If it was 100 lethal everyone would have died 97 lethal 3 immune|0 Some are being sent straight to Daegu after graduating the military nursing school So they get to experience possibly the toughest mission as their first mission|1 If anything youd be better off getting it now while the health system can still handle it If you have a partner isolate from them so they can look after the kids then tag them in when youre feeling better So off you go licking every door handle in town|1 May very well be But its super sad nonetheless|1 Unattended birth or birth attended by unskilled both workers is primarily where the risk lies with home birth A low risk woman home birthing with a skilled midwife is actually safer than a woman birthing in hospitalHowever in many countries their healthcare system is not set up to support home birthing Some areas of mine are getting better because there evidence is there to support skilled midwiferyattended home birthing but we still have a long way to go Added to that nowadays many women have comorbidities that take them out of the low risk category which means that home birth would not be as safe for them as birthing in a hospital will But a hospital isnt the beall and endall for birth safety and good outcomes Unnecessary intervention and the poorer outcomes that occur as a result of that are much higher in hospital In a lot of respects its less about location of birth and more about skilled birth attendants Because skilled attendants can not only recognise and respond to emergencies they put plans in place so they can do so efficiently before birthThere are three main contributing elements to maternal and neonatal morbidity and mortality The three delays Delays seeking care delays reaching care and delays receiving care This is one of the reasons home birthing can be dangerous particularly when not attended by skilled midwives and are a significant issue in countries with a high MMR such as developing nations However many women experience these delays even when birthing in hospital in developed countries particularly delays receiving careIt is a complex issue that really doesnt benefit from simplifying down to homebirth bad hospital good which many of my colleagues unfortunately want to do I think they genuinely see it as a threat to our profession But we need to be working in partnership with women and midwives to ensure the best outcomes for mother and baby both physically and psychosocially For some that means birthing in hospital some in a MGP birth centre and for others that means at home with a midwifeBecause the hospital system is responsible in many ways for those women who want to birth without a skilled midwife or any skilled birth attendant We have caused trauma we intervene too much when not required we bully and coerce and women become disillusioned and sometimes downright afraid of us We cause them to turn away from skilled maternity care because they simply feel they will not receive proper care and for some they are simply afraid And for many those feelings and fears are valid we have harmed themIdeally all hospital maternity systems should embrace a midwiferyled continuity of care model as the basis for all lowrisk pregnancies and should support and promote birthing at home should the woman request it Then as the antenatal risks increase the type of care the woman receives increases to where OBs become more involved even in midwiferyled models we are still involved but we dont need to be as much if the pregnancy is low risk and a determination can be made as to the safest location for birthIf most hospitals and maternity care providers supported skilled attended home birthing for low risk pregnancies then women would not so readily choose to birth unattended or with unskilled birth workers and many low risk women would not birth in a hospital system in which they are more likely to receive unnecessary and risky interventions which in would see morbidity and mortality outcomes improveAnyway this all got a little off the main point of this thread being the coronavirus But it still is relevant because without adequate systems in place to support home birthing because of this pandemic it does become risky because it can occur without plans and skilled workers in place to ensure better outcomes|1 Well i literally have to move to another country for college so |1 Capitalism only works when large inefficient companies are allowed to fail Bailouts just put everyone else at a competitive disadvantage|0 The virus still could have spread but at least local governments could have got some directionAnyone with half a brain already know what should be doneNobody is doing itTheyre all useless government employees there to push a narrative If youre really worried stay home and dont leave until this all blows over If everyone did this all over the world it would be gone in two months At the current rate it could be yearsThen again the majority of people have less than a week of food and many would likely starve to deathHow about just settle for a middle ground dont leave the house unnecessarily and limit time in public to a minimum while keeping a safe distance from othersWe dont need thousands of government analystsbureaucrats to find a good solution Just follow the scientific communitys recommendations|1 based on the definitionI find it truly irritating when an organization like the WHO does not manage to use the existing definition Its actually not open for debate Its not up to opinions or views It is what it is Period|1 So youre saying in 2 months from now the US will be effectively out of hospital beds |1 Thats fine and all but us broke folks got to keep working to keep you rich fucks happy so good luck with that|1 Thank|1 Yup I bought one since they claim to work so well If you dont hit the exact spot you can get a reading off by 2 degrees and even more if youre sweaty Its easy to retake your temperature but its annoying since you cant trust it until youve done a few tests|0 Dont forget our sister sub rCOVID19support which we set up for a qualified therapist who posted on rcoronavirus offering to help Its a great place for people to feel free to air their anxieties and get support from the community Youre welcome to post there|1 I listen to him everyday I like his common sense honesty and dry humor|1 Not true I was at target within the last week or so and the cashier checking me out was wearing gloves and a mask It was appreciatedEdit Im in Santa Clara county where we have confirmed COVID19 cases|0 Bring it to the local news outlet please|1 Someone should teach the geniuses at NPR about rightcensoring of data 15 death rate for Jan cases vs 1 for February cases since all of the cases in Feb were active|0 Easter Show Melbourne GPUniversities SchoolsAll still happeningEDIT Wrote Cup instead of GP Wrong big gathering|0 Dude believe me I dont really trust the decision making of the highest levels of my federal government when it comes to their motives for foreign policy recent history obviously should lead any rational American to this conclusion but that has nothing to do with domestic policy and disaster preparedness and messagingThe US is not Hong Kong Its a different situation They arent lying We absolutely dont have enough masks to give 95 of our population masks to suppress transmission like HK so the baseline situation is different thus messaging absolutely must be differentedit This whole conversation is case in point for why this sub needs some kind of location breakdown so that these mixed messages from different governments arent all mingling in the same massive space In a very definitive way what worked for HK by definition cannot work in the US and some of their messaging is in fact detrimental to the public good in the US right now Reddit needs to get this shit in check and quick|0 I had one when I was a student that tasted like shit so I looked at the ingredients to see what was in it noticed it was 2 yrs out of dateEdit Still smelled like pie|1 So what this does is to a degree provide a minimum percentage of individuals that will be asymptomatic or have very mild disease When you start to look at things like young adults and children being conspiuously absent from the 70K Chinese descriptive data and studies like these linked below one preprint the percentage of asymptomaticvery mild disease transmission is likely much higher with a substantial part of the overall percentage of asymptomaticvery mild disease being in younger ages with a concentration in those 20 and below Now this could be ameliorated IF these types of cases did not transmit as efficiently as symptomatic cases but If there is a large undetected disease burden that is able to transmit while not being physically impacted themselves it is supportive of the seemingly extreme community mitigation actions being taken in many areas of the worldhttpsacademicoupcomcidadvancearticledoi101093cidciaa2015766416httpsacademicoupcomcidadvancearticledoi101093cidciaa2015766416httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1|1 uuncertainpepperyAs a result of our initiative in taking on this complex issue OSHA on March 13 issued additional details making it clear that COVID19 can be a recordable illness if a worker is infected as a result of performing their workrelated duties|0 1 We are the most populated country in the developed world Alot of those countries are roling back on social policies due to cost2sorta kinda medical care in general is highly expensive from testing and developement to implementation and care An example is blood blood is donated freely but you have to pay for the specialised extraction storage administration of treatment and monitoring that process isnt cheap and the money has to come from somewhere limiting the price can drive jospitals out of business or limit the level of care they will provide since the budget has to be adjusted for the limit out of curiosity what level of care would you expect from a social healthcare system anyways full coverage for everything or just common diseases and emergency treatment|1 The 2 number is from WHO Im going to lean towards it not being nonsensical since thats what the experts are actually sayingCBS Newshttpswwwcbsnewscomliveupdatescoronavirusoutbreakchinausevacuationwuhandeathtollcasesrisingtoday20200129|1 How do you know its a linear thing when you are only looking at a very limited segmentLike any graph if you zoom in some of them would appear linear Basic Newtonian math|0 Hahaha this needs a meme|1 I used to have a lot of respect for the CDC|1 People This is not just about you and how strong and healthy you are STAY HOME This is about public safety at this point we ALL need to keep the healthcare system from being completely overwhelmed Doctors dont want to choose between treating you and your dad but they might have to at some point if people dont stay the fuck away from other people and stop spreading this Read this article YOUNG AND UNAFRAID OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC GOOD FOR YOU NOW STOP KILLING PEOPLEhttpswwwnewsweekcomyoungunafraidcoronaviruspandemicgoodyounowstopkillingpeopleopinion1491797 Heres an excerpt Im a doctor in a major hospital in Western Europe Watching you Americans and you Brits in these stillearly days of the coronavirus pandemic is like watching a familiar horror movie where the protagonists yet again split into pairs or decide to take a tour of a dark basement The reallife versions of this behavior are pretending this is just a flu keeping schools open following through with your holiday travel plans and going into the office daily This is what we did in Italy We were so complacent that even when people with coronavirus symptoms started turning up we wrote each off as a nasty case of the flu We kept the economy going pointed fingers at China and urged tourists to keep traveling And the majority of us told ourselves and each other this isnt so bad Were young were fit well be fine even if we catch it Fastforward two months and we are drowning Statistically speakingjudging by the curve in Chinawe are not even at the peak yet but our fatality rate is at over 6 percent double the known global average In Milan in Bergamo in Padua they are having to choose between intubating a 40yearold with two kids a 40year old who is fit and healthy and a 60yearold with high blood pressure because they dont have enough beds In the hallway meanwhile there are another 15 people waiting who are already hardly breathing and need oxygenRead this Cancel Everything Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus We must start immediatelyhttpswwwtheatlanticcomideasarchive202003coronaviruscanceleverything607675 The coronavirus could spread with frightening rapidity overburdening our healthcare system and claiming lives until we adopt serious forms of social distancing This suggests that anyone in a position of power or authority instead of downplaying the dangers of the coronavirus should ask people to stay away from public places cancel big gatherings and restrict most forms of nonessential traveland there are lots more articles out there all BEGGING us to stop being stubborn stop being ignorant and thinking we can beat this thing and just STAY HOME AND AVOID IT|0 I cant believe they didntt have an answer prepared for that question They all just came into contact with a confirmed case at CPAC HOW ARE THEY NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT|0 You can buy antibiotics in the United States in any feed store without a prescription At least you could 20 years ago Sure not indicated for human use but we used to buy oxytetracycline for livestock on a regular basis|1 Calm down for fuck sake Mass hysteria from the media Any coronavirus is a common cold|0 Testing doesnt affect the true death rate it affects our estimation of the actual death rate Many people are considering that if you dont test a huge number of people either randomly or with very mild symptoms then there will be a lot of covid19 cases that are not counted because they werent severe enough to end up in the hospitalTherefore if CFR Dead Cases Covid19 then without testing of mildno symptom people with coved19 the denominator is smaller than the true number of cases making the CFR appear highly than the actual mortality rate of Covid19All this said I am taking this virus very seriously and even the conservative estimates of death rates and hospitalization rates are quite concerning Everyone should be strongly considering how to slow the spread of the virus globally IMO|0 Im not scared he got the virusnothing surprising about thisNowhttpsthisNow the real matter startif he doesnt develop any symptoms or very mild fineif he get seriouscritical or pass awaywell we are in a big shitThis apply to any sportsmenwill be interesting to follow up how they overcome it|1 This corona virus stinks|0 My dads 22 YO otherwise healthy employee just died of pneumonia Unsure of what caused pneumonia no history of flu My 47 YO otherwise healthy aunt has been intubated in the ICU for 13 days for pneumonia negative for flu|0 I agree|1 I dont know about your body but when my body gets a fever the first sign of it will be body aches IANAD though|0 Thats definitely happening and will continue to happen here in America People dont want to give up hanging out with others or vacationing until theyre forced Im fortunate that I can work from home and Im home until further notice The only reason Im stepping outside is to start my car every 4 or 5 days and let it run|1 Both Stupid andor denial When Trump or Pence dies they will notice|0 Maybe this will teach you to calm the fuck down instead of jumping down the throat of an internet stranger for something pretty irrelevant |1 Bloody well putThats interesting what you said about comments on YouTube I might have a little look|1 Hopefully is the key word here Western countries are yet to learn from TaIwan ROK Singapore etcEdit replaced China with Taiwan|1 No one here is claiming to be experts but we do know when theres an iceberg ahead ringing the bell when theres new obstacles in front of us Maybe stepping back and not allowing this to engulf your life is the best decision Id like to believe everyone here is trying to do their part in helping as a community|1 This is especially hard now that the white house cant be trusted|0 Im aware of that However if the reserves in other countries are not profitable to extract that means that the rare earth prices and therefore anything made with them would have to increase to even consider mining it elsewhere Unless the government is going to create thier own reserves at increased prices for strategic reasons which im not against by the wayPerhaps a better term to use in this case would be resources|1 Id be a little surprised if China gave them any disinfectant when they need it so bad I wonder what that is|0 Technically we already have a pandemic because an epidemic is just when a large population in a given geographical location is infected A pandemic occurs when you have global reported cases across multiple countries|0 What they do accomplish is reducing the rate of spread so that systems have time to prepare and to respondAnd for mild cases to recover Having a large enough healthy work force will be crucial in getting through the pandemic|1 watching some video on web helps|1 Gate funded Seattle Flu Study Theyre planning to distribute home test kits to everyone in Seattle area|0 Yeah I saw the quote Im looking for evidence about the quote|1 All you can do is treat people as you want to be treated The rest is on them Forgive them for stupidity and ignorance and learn what thats like to be on the receiving end so youre never that way to others Im sure youre not Thats what Im taking from this amongst many things One good thing that Im praying comes out of this is we educate continue to pioneer a movement of uniting as a people and start withdrawing from crowds parties schools employers whatever We can unite powerfully as people and forget politics and bullying views on different political perspectives and help wake up America when and where we can We withdrew our son from school private school The public schools are not an option for us here in CA We are definitely paving a new way and we expect the majority to not understand but give them a couple weeks Theyll realize we were acting for both our family keeping our immune system up from a virus that preys on low immune systems trying time help our community and ultimately the country to slow this crazy ugly virus down This can only help everyone if we slow it down Otherwise it will overwhelm the healthcare system and the people who really need medical intervention like for pneumonia and try to keep some of the workers in our goods and food supply chain from getting hit with this all at once People dont realize it takes people on average 26 wks to recover Now imagine wave upon waves of millions of Americans getting it around the same time If we dont get it were either isolating or helping the sick|1 This was the one that helped me convince my parents to not go to church today|1 Maybe a little late to get this feeling sadly Ive always been shocked by the American Healthcare tbh|0 He didnt say people will have to dieHe said I must level with you the British public more families many more families are going to lose loved ones before their timeStop talking bullshit|0 Agree There is no way the number is 15|1 Fascinating Thanks|1 SomeoneJust collapsed in NYC from it|0 How do you confirm when its she heard thru rumours recovered from coronavirus with no test kits No offense Like sincerely asking|1 There is one reason If you have a shit computer the electric cost and co2 emissions could be high Might be better off donating that money directly to researchers|0 This is an opportunity for them to change that ingrained perception No healthy employees no earnings angry shareholders Companies will go under if they are not proactive|0 The devil is in the details it sounds like Trump administration is considering compensating hospitals for lost revenue from elective procedures not covering the treatment of all Americans Also it appears that this would only extend to the uninsured not to those with insurance who could still face deductibles or copays which reduce utilization Ie discourage people from seeking care thats literally the point this is not a conspiracy its to reduce moral hazardThis is promising I hate Trump but I hope he does the right thing No one should count on it though his administration is owned by the healthcare industry Azar is a pharma lobbyist|1 I think America was doomed to get it from the start We share a border with Canada who didnt stop flights and Mexico which people like Pelosi fought tooth and nail to oppose defending even if we did stop all flights inAustralia had a fighting chance but politics Cant close the border and quarantine everyone coming back without being racistOne way to make sure everyone loses is to get politics involved|0 Its cute that you guys post like you know what youre talking about but neither of you know the difference between a respirator and a maskEven worse you arent even smart enough to carry dental masks instead of surgical masks One protects the wearer the other protects patients Ill let you figure it out lol|1 TranslationTwo new cases of coronavirus in Algeria five in totalCompany March 02 2020 at 2037Two new cases of Coronavirus were registered on Monday March 2 bringing the total number of cases diagnosed in Algeria since the start of the epidemic to five the ministry of health said in a statement released tonightThe two new cases registered this evening belong to the family of the two patients diagnosed yesterday in BlidaThe epidemiological investigation is continuing to identify all the people who were in contact with the 83yearold Algerian national living in France and his daughter who recently stayed in Algeria the ministry added|1 For me the irony is that I can see I will be more socially active during a pandemic than otherwise|1 Im living in Thailand Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists here All countries should refuse noncitizen from flying in from Thailand an quarantine citizens that do|0 You can preorder with game theyll be back in stock soon if that helps neon scheduled for 13032020|1 Why water Utilities arent going to shut down Im astounded at people|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 If it wasnt resellers I would be ok with helping China out to limit the further spread as things go on In reality I know its just Chinese people exploiting other Chinese people|1 Sorry but Im in healthcacare and it is httpwwwhivandhepatitiscom2009icricaacdocs092209ehtml just fyi It works faster that way Take care|1 Nice to get a good laugh in the midst of this Thanks|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Theres an English phrase too trial by fire|0 Weve been fed a line of bullshit for months on this Were on our own httpsstaythefuckhomecom|0 Its true though Nature is our god Its the higher power we are all at the mercy of|1 The question is what is your opinion what is your gut feeling bout thatThe big measures that are made to protect peopleIve never heard of quarantine measures when we have the flu season So what is it about the Coronavirus when the flu is worse|0 Of course they have Airbnb is a horrible company and a horrible idea We should not be turning residential neighborhoods into business districts and hotels|0 Well maybe he should leak it instead of giving endless sound bites smh |0 Source I read 240 flu deaths in January when I was trying to research thatI think its obvious this is now killing more than the flu but I dont think theyre recording flu deaths anymore with their health system overwhelmed|0 nowhere Thats the whole point of quarantine they stay put until they are confirmed not infected|1 Just like World War Z|0 Just a joke|1 One of the few times I totally agree with Trump Look consider how easy for this virus to spread its better to just limit the patients movement as much as you can|1 26 years in the grocery business Its like a week before christmas with a monster snow storm coming Nothing but pure panic buying|1 Facebook censored me when I tried to dhare it with a Messenger group chat|0 I feel for you Im scared for when it gets out of control in Canada If its not already|0 8 of the 9 patients in the UK were discharged Relax Deaths only happened in China because their system was overwhelmed and it was among the elderly and immunosuppressed Everyone is very careful in all hospitals around the world now so it wont spread and overwhelm like Wuhan|1 Though I definitely agree with you Im hoping that he is toeing the line with the intent to prevent from being removed and replaced by someone much worse He is quite articulate and clearly knows what he is talking about|1 I cant believe people would be so stupid I mean I can but If schools are closed to reduce the spread of a virus obviously people should stay home as much as possibleThe whole world is watching the US right now Its going to be a disaster there|0 China is likely entirely lying about having it under control|0 Humans are bad at faking numbers Auditors fraud detectives nosy parkers etc will always have an eye of mathematical models such as Benfords Law It doesnt prove fraud in a case but may suggest itSee httpsenwikipediaorgwikiBenford27slawhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBenford27slaw|0 There is also one in Nepal which is concerning in that Nepal does not have the best health care infrastructure to deal with an outbreak Im more worried about the 1 case in Nepal than in Tibet|0 Ah yes I believe this person is infected I should avoid physically assault them thus putting me in direct contact with them|0 Married to a florist here Literally nobody wants flowers at this time Proms are canceled Weddings are canceled Even funerals arent having flowers I cant see the business realistically surviving this 20 years providing flowers to the community gone|0 Its actually a pretty drawn out and painful way to go Look up ARDS|1 Theres a way around that Have a friend buy you a Costco Gift Card in exchange for your cash and you can use that in the store without a membership That used to be the workaround|1 FL DOH has not issued any new numbers for the last 31 hours DO you really think this thing just stopped spreading|0 They should move WHO conferences to Netflix and show it as comedy|1 What kind of nazi bullshit is Olympia pulling I though that they were liberal lefty types|0 Not understanding Just saying if you want to work and help society these people are hiring and are guaranteed a pay check|1 This shows the stupidity of Trump ignoring WHO recommendations and restricting travel so aggressively Why doesnt he close down travel every winter for the Flu|0 I dont have a problem with that except as someone else pointed out what about notifying other people or places youve been around No one wants to panic their local grocery store or gas station or library or school or church or heaven forbid senior living facility by calling and saying Hey Im sick but Im not sure if its coronavirus or not Its a problem with no good answers|0 Symptoms pretty much as I have seen reported elsewhere Initially I felt non specific symptoms general malaise fatigue muscles cramps predominantly in calves and shoulders and was having trouble staying awake After a few days it progressed to include to low level fevers mild nausea loss of appetite moderate but not severe headache non continuous and a very specific strange feeling in my chest that I would describe as a tight itchy pressure I also found that I was getting out of breath with almost no activityThen moved on to higher fever chest pain with a sharper more severe cold feeling pain on the end of inhalation intermittent dry cough dizziness worsening shortness of breath difficulty standing up at all and generally feeling awfulOxygen sats fluctuates from around 90 to 98 My temp fluctuates 36 to 39 degrees Pulse is elevated Blood pressure normal Sleeping a lot I live in central London No direct contact with known cases but I am 3 to 4 degrees separation from close contact to two different confirmed cases I may be getting tested in the next few days so will update if so|0 Yes Im involved on the vendor side of things two major events to give you all a flavor of how much money vendors spendA 30foot by 20foot exhibit space six times the standard 10x10 runs about 35K Booth design is about 100K includes av and setup which is termed drayage as well as shipping That doesnt include flying 10 employees and housing them for 3 nights 30 nights at 300night 9K feeding said employees at 100d x 30 days 3K and conference fees to attend for 5 of them another 5K or so Freebies and printing add another 5KJust like that thats 150K weve spent or not spent Its big business for everyone|1 This is where the US is dropping the ball with this virus Self quarantine is a joke if they dont want to just dont listen You need to prepare sooner rather than later for this to come near you I made short video on somethings you should grab from the store Check it out it may help httpsyoutubeHrH69Z3uUg|1 I just seen my coworker blow his nose and put the tissue on the table Then he finished his shift and left it there for me to dispose of People are dirtier than you think|0 how about retail workers Is it better there|1 Generally yall werent hoarding just buying a healthy amount of surplus before there were shortages|1 Robert Redfields world viewsIn the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W Shepherd Smith Jr and his Christian organization Americans for a Sound AIDSHIV Policy or ASAP The group maintained that AIDS was Gods judgment against homosexuals spread in an America weakened by singleparent households and loss of family valuesAnd Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book Christians in the Age of AIDS cowritten by Smith in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults and described antidiscrimination programs as the efforts of false prophetshttpswwwcnncom20180513opinionstrumpsterriblechoiceforcdcredfieldgarrettindexhtmlThis is the moron in charge of the health and well being of 32945 million people|0 Its a bit unfair the way youre wording this There was a report that China is forcing people to work as slaves in factories that Nike and many other companies are using The government is lying to these companies You make it sound like Nike knew this was happening and continued with business as usual That would surprise me It will be interesting to see what these companies do in response now They made a deal with the Devil and it turns out the devil is an asshole|0 EDIT Per a request later in this thread here is a TLDR to this if you dont want to read the entire thing hahaViruses fundamentally need to infect new people to survive and if you make it harder and harder for it to find those people that havent been infected and prioritize not infecting the sick and elderly the virus dies off because it becomes too difficult for it to efficiently find new hostsAs for the original postI touched on this in a series of posts I provided to someone on here that was claiming that the infection rate would reach 100 nationwide by March 10th which is ludicrous You can look through my recent post history to see those but Ill give you a thought exercise that might prove more enlightening and fun instead haBasically a dumb and simple analogy to help envision this is to imagine that we are looking at a single batch of money that was printed for a single metro area and we want to see what proportion of that money is spent at common fast food places in the city and how quickly it is spent there Lets further say that people can only pay using bills from this single batch of money at these restaurants and that each bill can only be used once at each establishment The restaurants represent the virus and we are represented by the printed billsAs much as we hate to admit it a large proportion of the population eats fast food at least once a week ha As people start to withdraw this money from the bank over the course of the week you will see that there is a slow escalation in purchases beginning Monday with the first withdrawal of this batch of money and the rates of purchase will increase exponentially weekoverweek in subsequent weeks as people withdraw this money supply from the bank and use it to buy fast food at some point during their weeksAt a certain point however the purchases will start to slow down as the total number of printed bills in this batch that can be used at these fast food restaurants begins to dwindleremember you have to pay with bills from this certain batch and they can only be used at these fast food places one time each For one reason or another some bills just never find their way to the fast food restaurants some are hoarded by those who prefer to keep their savings on hand in cash other bills might find their way into the underworld others sit in reserve or cycle throughout the financial system without seeing everyday use etc Perhaps even some people are just flat out angry about fast food restaurants taking away from local businesses and so they withhold money solely so that it cannot be used for fast foodEventually basically no one is visiting these fast food restaurants anymoreit isnt that they dont want to but rather that there is no readilyavailable cash money that qualifies for use there Provided the fast food establishments dont change their policy on accepting previouslyused currencywhich would be analogous to a viral mutationthese fast food restaurants begin to go out of business one by one as the cash inflow no longer pays their bills and they permanently close They never saw 100 of the bills printed in that single batch of currency pass through their doors for a number of reasons despite the ubiquity of McDonalds etc in the frequent diets of many Americans and before they could see all the bills they went out of businessNow this is a very simplistic thought exercise and it ignores the possibility of cash inflows that would represent population migration and deathsbirths etc but it demonstrates the concept of yield in a population given transient opportunity Lets switch now from the fast food analogy to the virus itselfthe virus is quite transmissible and will spread very fast when given ample opportunity and optimal conditions densely packed urban areas people not knowing how to protect against it people not knowing it is there frequent large public gatherings etc When these conditions exist you get situations like Wuhan However the virus needs new hosts and so if it infects all the easy ones only harder targets remain If it gets fewer and fewer opportunities to find new hosts capable of transmitting it before it is either wiped out or the host is killed the virus will eventually fade awayLets do another simplified thought exercise and say everyone in the United States except for one guy locked away in a Doomsday bunker becomes infected at the same time and that the virus is not capable of reinfection on a meaningful level due to acquired immunity we wont consider births in this example Lets further say that the virus is present in everyone for 14 days before symptoms is a threeweek course of illness for those that survive and requires a twoweek quarantine after symptoms subside to ensure it is gone The virus would NEED to infect that guy in the bunker within seven weeks or it will have died off without infecting 100 of the population If he doesnt leave his house for seven weeks however the virus fizzles out hahaSo yes I hope these examples demonstrated the concept for you If the younger healthier demographic along with those with acquired immunity steps up to handle the necessary work of society while as many people as possible practice good hygiene the infirm and elderly temporarily remove themselves from high density everyday affairs and the infected practice disciplined selfquarantine the unaffected population will come to be like the bills tucked away in shoe boxes that were never spent at McDonalds or the guy in the Doomsday bunker in our examples haha The virus needs opportunity to spread and it has a limited amount of time to do so and if we deny it opportunity wherever possible while running down the clock eventually the realistic number of potentially infectable individuals dwindles to a point where the virus cannot sustain itself and fizzles outThis is a simplified explanation and doesnt get into concepts of in and outmigration the possibilities of the virus becoming endemic through smallscale mutations which would make reinfection possible but the virus would likely keep getting weaker births and deaths etc but the underlying concept is the same I hope this helped and let me know if you have questions|1 Might be sooner I read that a year ago an Israeli group decided to study Corona virus of which there are many flavors in chickens Obv we arent fowl but their work should really give them insight into how the corona family targets cells and latches on etc Lets hope for a positive update We need to get this into clinical trials|1 Yes they are quarantined in an island but supposedly 9 got sick but theyre saying it has nothing to do with nCoVIts not that the government is incompetent but from what I see is that theyre trying to boost their tourism and so I dont think hiding cases are off the table Like out of all the suspected cases none of them are confirmed cases Either were really lucky or theyre just lying|0 Thats easy Balance sheets U really think our gov cares about the ppl|1 PCR isnt an excessively difficult test to run I know several who used them during there University courses I know this test is probably more elaborate and excessive than what would be done in a University lab but the idea that theres only a few dozen in the whole country thats capable is nonsense|1 Also dont forget to listen to the Popes album Yes He has one|1 The more alarming thing is this doctors have no clue where to get tested themselvesMeaning once they are exposed infected and symptomatic they will still have no idea where to turn to verify they have it and get treated EARLY This is a MAJOR problem as we need our healthcare professionals to recover and continue to lend aid once they have|0 Because my English is bad and in my own language their are interchangableish|0 What is dangerous is when someone gets their hands on one of these lights without knowing what it actually does Somebody on rwhatisthisthing found one and turned it on Everyone near it felt sick vomited and needed hospitalization They likely had their corneas disintegrate from the burns shortly after This shit is no joke and can easily be fatal if someone untrained gets their hands on it|0 DamnI mean this sincerely Im sorry to hear that and hope yourher situation turns out well in the end|1 Im a bit of a medical nerd who plays a bit too much Pleague Inc The sites feel similar to the game so its almost triggering a relaxedfascinated feeling seeing it played out|1 I get it but shouldnt that affect the preowned cost as well|1 dont bother these ppl just find all excuses to blame what they are doing Its always under react or overreact you cant satisfy them|0 The 20 figure generally seems to be the diagnosed case figure That is 20 of the diagnosed cases required hospital treatment Though that doesnt always mean that theyre going to seek it if they know that it will bankrupt them And it might only be 10 or so of overall cases depending on how many of them are actually never diagnosedRight now we have the problem that only a relative handful of people have been tested Well know more in a few days|0 I recently donated to a random person on go fund me that died from complications from flu after he was on a business trip About a month and a half ago|0 Well looks like theyve started moving in that direction by criticizing world leaders for not doing enough now that its apparent this virus isnt just a nobigdeal flu like weve been toldSo good|1 To leave the country with illness and free healthcare Sounds pretty stupid rumor|1 Our wait time is longer in the USWe have to wait for the president to figure out how to profit off the test kits before we get them|1 I got one and its great There is a bit of a learning curve especially for women|1 If we didnt forget wed be traumatized beings afraid of living our lives Like those savantsthose poor souls who remember absolutely everything They lead painful existences|0 Fucking Cheltenham Its beyond stupid|0 My girlfriend is doing an internship with Disney at the parks and I booked flights and hotels to go visit next week Im still going but were not going to the parks anymore Im in my early 20s and not really as concerned since Im pretty healthy but my dad is in his 70s and bringing it home would be a death sentence to him|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rkorea rChinaFlu Korea to supply 2 million masks and 100000 protective eyewear and clothing to China in aid when they evacuate Korean citizens from Wuhan on the 30thhttpswwwredditcomrkoreacommentsevi489rchinaflukoreatosupply2millionmasksandnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Then Medicare for all and education arent socialism right Can we stop acting like they are|1 Right because lets say we took all of Bezos and Bloombergs wealth and distributed it to the citizens That would cover the US populations equivalent pay for checks notes about 2 daysDo you guys not even bother to do really simple math before making statements like this|1 Weve seemed to reach a new level of crazy every month in 2020 November is a long ways away|0 Iran needs thus right now like a hole in the head|1 no ones surprised from a govt who refuses to give updates in english and days ago said theres no threat to quebecx200Blol|0 Well is low risk because 1 They are not going to test you unless you comes from China2 You are not going to die from the Corona Virus but rather from Pneumonia3 They are clueless in what they are doing4 They does not give two shits they are clueless5 They only care about the economy|1 GRID only spread if you fucked the infected or shared needles Much easier to avoid than someone coughing on you in a bus|0 I dont speak squiggle Which one is itEDIT Oh I see China Yeah those numbers are even less believable with the nice squiggles|1 A looot of my friends renewed their FFXIV subs|1 My job requires doctors paperwork on the 3rd day of an illness So Ill be on the hook for lots of money that I cant avoid just to do the right thing and self quarantine and recover at home|0 Isnt Italy over 1000 deaths now or am I misunderstanding This really doesnt bode well at all|0 Just bite the bullet and lockdown NY Seattle and San FranciscoChina shutdown Beijing Shanghai and Shenzhen for two weeksIts either one month of pain or a huge disaster where literally a few million Americans could die|0 Not sure even surgical masks have been proven to be better than nothing even better if everyone wears them But also I think most people dont have access to them as they sold out in early February|1 No you are clueless about the Bay Area And you are clueless about its place within the rest of the country|0 Seems like yesterday was a backlog of cases Looks like were not going to get 10k cases everyday|1 My wife is in the medical field here in Aus They are getting emails about what theyll be doing in a month and where also what areas of medicine will be temporarily suspended nostly elective stuffIt could be less than a month just keeping them all in the loop daily|0 I like these people Way to go|1 So i cant even die without some asshole talking into my ear|1 I live in a small town Larger urban sprawl is 20 minutes awayIf there are suddenly 5 cases nearby heck 1 case Ill be glad I have already stocked up so I dont have to go to a grocery target etc Were informed and know how contagious this virus isIm telling my friends to get prepped for hurricane season a little earlier|1 American hereNewly employed No sick or Vac time accrued Im stuck in the situation where If I get sick I either work and risk getting the office sick or go unpaid which would be a significant financial burden You better believe Im working through any sickness|0 I see it as poetic justice for the most divisive and spoiled generation in history One comment This virus could kill my parents not only do I love them but they provide free childcare for me to workWe are about to see poetic justice indeed|1 jokes on you i dont talk to people who use whatsapp|1 What There is no military in Wuhan enforcing a martial law like state on the streets People can go outside but most stay at home to prevent infections The citys border is on lockdown not peoples home there is a difference Private vehicles can still leave Wuhan using roads they just have to pass through checkpointsYou really need some accurate sources About the other topic yes those arrested people are right but they had no evidence at the time and those were pure speculations Even a broken clock is right twice a day Why wouldnt it at the time be a flu strain instead The virus was only sequenced and confirmed to be a coronavirus on the 9th of January Even now we dont exactly know how the virus transmits from human to human|0 Well Im white and plan to never visit China but if you think Im a Chinese commie you can go right on ahead|1 Yeah the late Satoru Iwata took a 50 pay reduction to prevent layoffs because the the failure of the Wii U|0 Definitely not what XR is about mate they kinda just want the world to stop burningExtinction Rebellion advocate for systemic change in economics deinvest in fossil fuels invest in renewables and in the way many people eat a western diet primarily consisting of meat eat less meat or go veganvegetarian to reduce carbon emissions caused by the livestock agriculture marketBit different from all humans should die eh|0 And I am glad I dont live in a place that tax rapes citizens to pay for people sitting on their asses doing nothing|0 Oh yesthis is very true Some people who have mild symptoms may have just thought they had a cold|1 The spread seems to be slow in the South East Asian countries Singapore Malaysia Thailand Indonesia Philippines Vietnam Cambodia Myanmar but really we can only trust the numbers coming out of Singapore its been increasing 178 as of yesterday but not at alarming levels like Italy Iran or Denmark where they spiked overnight so yeh maybe the humid air slows down the virus like everything else humidity does to you|1 This I love my husband and I love my daughter I love spending time with them That said we can all drive each other crazy if were trapped together too long My daughter is a chatterbox and I often joke that she has a quota of words that she must use every day or else shell explode Its one thing to joke about it when she rambles about her day at school its another when shes stuck at home and narrating absolutely every single thing shes doing has done and is planning on doing while Im attempting to read a book or watch a TV show because there is no one else to talk to Then add in my husband who also has a minimum number of words per day and it quickly becomes maddening in a small house to someone like me who likes periods of quiet alone time|1 well then I guess some people at my university are just assholes|0 Because they are a alt right media propaganda machine|0 I hope the first turns out to be true|1 Man its getting real hard to keep up with the new cases|0 In the study Isopropyl Alcohol is referred to as 2propanol Isopropyl alcohol often called IPA or isopropanol is similar in function and structure to ethanol It evaporates at a similar rate and destroys bacterial and viral cells by the same mechanism However it is not as effective at dehydrating living tissue and so is a better solution for disinfecting skin than ethanol Isopropyl alcohol is often used as an antiseptic for this reasonhttpswwwhunkercom12000188ethanolvsisopropylalcoholtodisinfecthttpswwwdifferencebetweencomdifferencebetweenethanolandvsisopropanol|0 Judging by what has happened in HK and Singapore and Japan even a partial lockdown can slow down the cases to a trickle During that time we can ramp up the testing and the hospital infrastructure to create a more SKlike situationAt this point all countries yes even UK despite rumors are trying to avoid infecting a significant amount of their population|1 Sent you a dm but posting here for visibility sorry if this has already been suggested I think it would be great for people to be able to submit when they are denied testing and are showing symptoms A check box selection of symptoms or risk such as travel and the users city Maybe a formula that only captures known symptoms for a suspected infection and a total submitted to allow users to understand true risk by city Just an idea but ty for your efforts|1 The hysteria is over the top|0 It feels like a simulation to me Just throw it into the game and watch the humans do dumb stuff|0 What Please clarify what you are saying|1 Itll get cancelled|0 Murder charges What is this 1984 Oh wait|0 My folks are at their winter condo in Arizona My mom just had knee surgery and is recovering Im in Minnesota I feel so helpless|0 Good on them Knowing my university it will take deaths before they close down Last time we have an extreme cold citywide shut down they were one of the last 2 unis standing not sure if they were the absolute last to close but still|1 starbucks want to censor that small detail s|0 The risk minimisation is already as good as it can beThis is overly sensationalized even for this sub|1 SARS infected 8000 people globally and killed 800 Flu infects 34mm and kills 50k each year in USA alone Will COVID19 produce outcomes more like flu or more like SARSIm accounting for overall outcomes on people Symptoms fatality R0 all go into what outcome it will have But it is unarguable that COVID19 is closer to flu than SARS in global outcomes People refusing to admit that have an agenda to scare people The facts and data are clear Trust science trust data|0 Im sure hes ordering the doctors to follow certain guidelines Gotta keep those artificial numbers low|1 I think it is important to 1 take this seriously and stay aware of the global and local situation 2 be prepared and 3 of course not panic For many there are excellent local eg at the city state province level online resources that will let you know about what is happening with regards to the COVID19 epidemic and response Local public health websites tend to have good information on this For a more global perspective the WHO has a terrific website and even has a myth busting section where some of the more alarmist or conspiracy theory type issues are addressed link belowhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustershttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbusters Knowledge and preparation guided by quality data will alleviate fear anxiety and panic Isaac Bogoch MD|1 Austin TXLast night out of the blue my throat got sore and I was coughing I went to sleep shortly after and then woke up maybe 2 hrs later vomiting and with a fever The fever is gone now throat is still sore but not as bad as last nightI called the CDC but theyre closed on the weekend and their hotline just keeps directing to their normal phone I called my doctors office but they told me that for my city testing isnt available until MondayWhat do I do I honestly cant hole up all weekend over something unconfirmed If I was able to confirm that I have it then Id have documentation to use my HSA funds but otherwise I dont have spare money to spend on food delivery Is there anyone testing like right now|1 It disgusts me how people are joking around about how its going to take out all the boomers My parents are both in their 60s Im not ready to become an orphan at 28 and I doubt most millennials are|0 They werent arguing against that I dont think you are as bright as you think you are|1 That sounds brave I am scared of being forced to work without sufficient PPE but we will see What are your predictions in terms of designing proper ventilation equipment for homes|0 with clever searching you can often find the exact premium videos uploaded elsewhere for free|1 Im in the 1 out of 5 at least against full quarantineIts already too late We probably have thousands of untested individuals everywhere and quarantine measures wont prevent it from spreading Full quarantine means people cant pay bills buy things or starve to deathAs for partial quarantine where people are discouraged from going outside and congregating in mass I fullysupport that|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Hahaha only the old and sick good one|1 Read the NYT article How to Battle the Flu The virus may be around for another 18 months but putting yourself and your family at greater risk of receiving it isnt smart Especially if you have younger children There might not be identified cases in Philly but this country also hasnt been actively testing people|0 Thank god she most likely doesnt have it Congrats|1 Think of how many officers will be in quarantine shit I knew I shoulda got some personal protection gun this is a big wakeup call might be too late guh|0 Thanks for posting these links|1 I figured out that you were being sarcastic at the end but the fact that I even had to consider if it was a legit question is saddening|0 Meanwhile here in France Macron has been saying that we are on a threshold of a mass epidemic and we are doing exactly fuck all about it|0 Your post contains a news article or another secondary or tertiary source Rule 2 In order to keep the focus in this subreddit on the science of this disease please use primary sources whenever possible News reports and other secondary or tertiary sources are a better fit for rCoronavirusThank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 You need to seek help if youre that stressed|1 Just got an Amber alert on how to social distance and clean hands Thanks people isnt this something you should have shot out a week ago|1 Im going to a match in another city kicking off at 745 If this means its cancelled and I have to turn round and come home again Ill be ragin|0 No leveling off trend only variability|0 The most important Bouillon in a portfolio|1 Plenty of places to hide in the woods where i live A solo or couple could easily camp deep in woods off path not a formal campgroundThats easier than it would be around here were surrounded by desert There are hiding spots but not with waterIts an option if you know what youre doingAgreed|0 Majority of those fighters are not rich or even well off Guys at the top yes but others not even close You should see places where some of them live You would not believe it|1 Im a O so I guess this is some good news for me|1 It will take 510 weeks for the numbers to spin up to where they cant be ignored Its just early days in these countries with strict testing criteria and a decent collar on the press Looking at you Canada|1 I think a lot of people get the point of this There are always those few that want to hate on anything that goes on But I am happy to see someone taking the steps to try to make something right even if they are still hoarding money its a lot more then we can do right now I think the point is we should all try to do what we can to help the ones around us while we can Hope everyone is taking this seriously and staying safe|1 Ok So hear me out What is we just quarantined those 60|1 Or we might die in WW3 This kind of destabilization is the absolute worse case scenario for global peace|0 An antibody test in the future might help estimate the actual number of infections|1 Yeah i know But today my coll3gues husband is in military he got a voice message stating that they are to prepare for monday roll out with all the gear and MRI food packs and tents Theyll be doing a 2 or 3 day shift rotations or aomething I personally am gonna be ok as long as i can walk my doggie do his toilet out n about As far as food im fine for more than 2 months no i did not this shopping in the last few days|1 This study is about tobacco smoke not cannabis smoke The two are known to have very different qualities If you can switch to edibles that would be better but more information is needed|1 Makes me jealous but only because its so difficult to get this stuff in Europe|0 Sounds exactly Like a circus|1 The new hospital The new Carolin is the biggest culprit when it comes to cutbacks in Stockholm Its fucking insane Its the worlds most expensive hospital and 13th most expensive building in the world the problem is just that its so bad Cost so far is about 6 billion dollars with costs just keep on risingbut its too small And wrongly constructed in all ways thinkable Bathrooms have wrongly angled floors so the water dont run the right way so personnel have to wear rubber boots Quite common doors that cost 100000 dollars to change bad quality all overReally its one of the biggest conomic scandals in the history of the worldAnd most of us Swedes say that we have no corruption whatsoeverLook up Boston consulting Group|0 Also the kind that is not splash resistant or whatever they call it|1 Genius lol|1 Thanks|1 People now you cant close schools how will I WORKin 2 months why didnt you DO something to stop this spreading|0 Think so Surely theyre not this incompetent|1 If you actually knew anything about how government worked youd know that its literally impossible to get fired from any position for anything whatsoever|0 In the US we have reportable diseases which are diseases of public concern providers must notify their state health board and CDC of any patients diagnosed with these diseases its a big and important exception to patient privacy lawsHowever a patient refusing to be tested for a reportable disease cant be forced to do so without a court order there are very few exceptions to this like if someone is unconsciousconfused and cant give consent to testing andor treatmenthttpsmedlineplusgovencyarticle001929htmLong story short a patients consent is always an important factor in medicine and is very rarely disregarded To do so requires very specific circumstances and often a court order as wellThe researchers requested approval from federal health authorities to waive rules regarding consent and privacy the request was denied I think the denial was an idiotic decision|1 Dont believe a god damn thing Forbes publishes|1 Roger that I shouldve said also works hard which makes people with heart conditions have their tickers crap out first|0 There would be no way for an employer to prove you went out during a pandemic everyone would just lie|0 Well yeah just needed the official stamp I guess|1 UV light kills viruses so logically it must be to some extent dont know how much difference it makes though|0 Small suggestion change title to Make CDC report all CORONAVIRUS cases A little helpful clarity around an important issue|1 If you feel well enough that if it werent for coronavirus you wouldnt see a doctor dont see a doctor Lauren Sauer an assistant professor of emergency medicine at Johns Hopkins Medicine|0 Well Wolf has gotten the ball rolling with Montgomery county Lets see where it goes from here|1 There will be other times WDW is truly magical but your trip wont be if someone gets sickIm scheduled to go in Oct for my honeymoon Chances are itll be reopened by then but Im still mildly worried at this point|1 Is there a psychological component to this virus that just makes people want to travel when they get it or are people just that stupid|0 There is a feeling here in America which I keep hearing people express that we cant contain the spread of this and a lot of people are just going to get it and that healthy people will be fine yada yada yada And then I see that young doctors are dying Besides being inundated with coronavirus patients what risk factors did this 57 year old doctor and doctor Li who was 34 have|1 Yet colleges like Liberty University are openDont see how some people think this will be over in 23 weeks Probably more like 2 or 3 months|1 Call the Times Union they havent had any local cases yet they might love to get all over this|1 LMAO right the amount of people spewing drivel and just fearmongering in here is unreal You should see the CDC thread where all of the joe blows in the comments think they know better than the CDC experts because they read this subreddit|1 Where was the insult|0 Sure but the airports were pretty quiet yesterday Less people travelling So people might be staying in more|1 Im not sure it is the appropriate time for close contact due to the sheer contagiousness of the virus but Im sure a baby boom would be a side effect the Chinese government welcomes |1 Could just drop the last four words|0 My job has me on contact with mass amounts of people pretty much 4 out of 7 days of the weekMy wife works in healthcareSo for us 0 isolation lol|1 Reinfection has been confirmed so it seems worse than after a flu infection Immunity seems to be low so far hence more and empiric Research absolutely required3 What I was implying if the flu which exists for hundreds of years cant be contained with 200 death toll in Germany this sounds like a joke to the potential threat Corona offers you know4 Thats what I did not put into my hypothesis since the potential reinfection is confirmed plus the R0 is higher than flu the potential for mutation is abnormaliy higher than a flu We already require yearly flu shots so we expect to cure Corona with higher pathogenic power to wipe out with a simple all in one solution Hardly to believe|0 My conspiracy mind is saying this is a way for the Chinese government to get rid of a large portion of their aging population so they dont have to care for them|0 Not my field of expertise but airlines are allowed to pile on massive amounts of debt year after year they are almost too big to fail but they can fail anyway So when a big airline goes bankrupt it can leave thousands of millions in debt This is not exclusive to the airline industry and governments want to delay as much as possible to save their reputationAnother factor in companies that trade publicly is speculative trading such as short selling if you dont know what short selling is you should at least know that its so risky that some countries ban it when crisis like these happen|0 There are limited test kits and fever is the most common symptom so its understandable why you werent tested|0 I am Korean but I have never heard about them sharing wine in Korean news They just sit close to each others without wearing masks|1 pain in the lungs diarrhea nausea and chillsThis guy right there was cleared to workFuck|0 I was in Busan for a week two weeks ago and 60 of people were wearing masks Especially in the subwayWho mocked you for wearing a mask A Korean|0 its unclear to me why the FDA needs to individually review every test of every target DNA sequence Seems like you ought to be able to get a generic look for these N sequences test reviewed and let the customer plug in the actual target sequences depending on what theyre looking forIf the FDA needs to certify the relationship between particular DNA sequences and diseases do it once independent of the test technology used to search for that sequence in a test sample|1 Apparently weed decreases your immune system slightly Could be a way to prevent organ damage lol|1 It makes sense the system was overburdened even before this Youre likely better off staying at home anyway unless of course youre very ill because hospitals and doctors offices are risky places|0 So disheartening I mean this has barely even started|0 Noticed this trend as well on news it sounds like this screw old people and people with chronic illness they are loose weight anyway Young people will be ok and it will feel like flu even on uk news there was some leaked docs telling to who save and who not |1 Yeah I was thinking that as well Theyre raising the white flag but have nothing to lose trying|1 Lack of immunity due to it being a new strain of flu cut CDC funding no pandemic response team and just all around incompetence for the most part|0 Dude Im wishing the absolute best for you Ive absolutely terrified for folks with autoimmune diseases|1 sure me and my friends can easily get time off from our 3 different jobs to stand in line for hours in the freezing cold during the short time frame they allow for voting its not young ppl 2 blame|1 Oh absolutely not greedy asses|1 Was a bit baffled for a sec could this be real could governments start looking out for their citizens and be preemptive rather than reactiveThen I read this it works start a surveillance program that would see 600 people tested weeklyAh okay yawn Like Japan theyll make dries these people cover a certain set of requirements to keep numbers down|1 Dont worry when the deaths keep piling up they will get over it|1 I think so although I think some of it will be irrelevant because of this plagueOn another note why oh why is Corbyn being allowed to use up valuable oxygen What a load of fucking drivel at a time when the past is becoming irrelevant the present and the future are unknown Why is he even still thereIf hed called Boris out on shutting the country down Id be giving him credit for the first time ever He didntI wonder if he has a plan maybe if all the govt dies and he doesnt hell get the power he so desperately craves|1 At this point I just hope its fought by someone|1 They have the masks and N95 masks in a secure area for this reason How do we tell the public no I cant give you a mask because I and my fellow doctors and nurses need them First rule of firefightingsave yourself Save your fellow firefighters Save as much as you can of everything else The world is beginning to burn|1 Sorry what is the population density of Manhattan Chicago and LA|0 Why ever go to a public event again Between infectious diseases and active shooters we should all stay home because safety The average American will give up liberty for a facade of safety This will change things just like 911|1 Yea man Everyone knows the mentally unstable are the best at determining what is or is not true information Its practically in the name|1 Here in California you cant get tested Im married to a primary care physician who has tried to get patients tested but they have no say in getting someone tested Doctors orders make no difference It has to be allowed by the cdc before you can get a test Its not lack of insurance sadly its lack of any access for anyone|0 More like exposure contacts everywhere no real green zone to drink eat go to the bathroom catching it initially But severity compounded by opportunistic infections also everywhere stress lack of sleep crumbling health care resources|0 My best friend in Dallas is 31 had walking pneumonia for 2 months at the start of the year has covid symptoms now and no insurance and cant get a hold of her doctor Im across the country and really worried My boss laughed at me yesterday for voicing my concerns I cant lose her its not funny|1 Pls dont forget the homey Warren Buffett|1 Stay safe make your kids wash their hands correctly and you do it yourself you will be alright|1 Another infuriating celebrity factThere is an entirely different department for celebrities and diplomats at all the credit bureaus and large banksThey literally live within a totally different set of rules and support|1 This too A lot of SARS survivors were left with longterm lung damage and systemic issues related to the infection|0 Scientists even the ones taking this very seriously and who have brutally honest about the disease since the beginning dont seem to think it was accidentally or intentionally released from a manmade lab That should count for something|0 This thing isnt being contained its gonna make its rounds like any other seasonal flu Only making it worse by isolating the under 40 crowd|0 You wouldnt like the answer friend I knew people that sneeze into open air and cough into their hand like a bunch of god Damned savages Its disgusting and rude|0 Dont worry once Biden is elected nothing will fundamentally change If only we had someone fighting for programs that would be amazing for crisis like this|1 that makes sense i wonder what their next thoughts are about faith and jesus and church|1 WTF was he talking about the test hurting so much Is it really that bad|0 playing contrarian doesnt grant you the correct position automatically|0 One will be quarantined for a while though unless one doesnt care about spreading it|0 what countries have closed non essential stores best buy bath and body works kohls so far|1 Having these graphs dated for when the latest data was received would make them easier to track|1 Yes Considering the huge significance of the governments response I expected more Without really thinking about it I thought I wouldnt bother listening to him again Now you mention it|1 Our School just closed down for 2 weeks Kinda sucks since we have exams soon So maybe we have to be homeschooled for the moment but I dont know yet|0 Arent there 6 confirmed in PA as well|1 Flu is is 2 lol|1 AS posted before Cancelling what is for most people a onceayear or less vacation loosing all your vacation money as refunds were not offered and cruises are often booked years in advance is not an easy decision to make I would rather see the blame on government agencies including consumer protection who dropped to ball by not mandating cruise lines to offer refunds|0 Counting all the villans you forgot the main threat in this horror movie A virus that spreads from one person to another very quickly if unchecked No one is fighting that virus You know how everyone knows this its cause theyre not doing any tests No tests means even they dont know who has the virus If they dont know who has it they cant humanly stop this thing So forget social media news orgs Its laziness apathy and incompetence against an actual threat to the people|0 Awesome|1 Not to be too pedantic but absolutely does not rhyme with scorn|1 Wow Its not only user friendly its more accurate than trackers I was using today Great jobWhat API did you use Or did you made your own|1 Have no idea|0 And then denied he said it was a hoax|0 I fear I got covid at a hospital from a patient who didnt know they had it it was there at the same time my husband was hospitalized But of course I cant get tested because my symptoms arent the standard ones However I was told this would change next week|0 She tried to take a picture then it just looks like normal skin tissue|1 I hope soI cant help but notice though that the groundwork has already been laid by Trump to call this a foreign issue linking any deaths to the fact we have relatively open borders If it does get as bad as models say they might the administration is going to turn as hard as they can into that talking point to deflect from their incompetence and will begin pushing ultranationalist antiimmigration measures in order to save their own assesIt needs to be hammered into the publics heads right now that whatever comes next is exactly the result of Trumps catastrophic policy decisions to eliminate the office in the CDC overseeing the study of pandemics and from his continual insistence that the virus was nothing to worry about Give the followers enough video footage and Tweets that even their own willfully gaslit memories wont be able to let the truth slide this time|0 I cannot be the only one who is expecting the US to literally burn here am I Florida is going to be a hellscape in 4 days Pretty sure that by Sunday is going to be the beginning of the systemic failure of that states medical system on top of that people will start to flee just causing this thing to spread Then there is going to be the food riots when the shit show starts in Texas that shit should be on payperview And all we can do is watch|0 Agreed the quarantines were to limit the number of cases at a time so that the health system can handle it better|1 Damn Im sorry to hear that this virus is effecting businesses in AZthats crazy its reached so far Thank you for warning us something like that is possible thats a big help|1 if its basic knowledge you should just provide a source instead of talking like a bitch to everyone|0 Yet somehow other things happen for millions of people every day Its almost as though they could spend money on it and it would happen but no one wants to spend the money|0 He surely does say that Since everything is under control and the problem is only in Wuhan|1 Yeah Im still seeing 67 on the BNO site as well Would be interesting to see where that number came from if valid|1 Wouldnt this go against the narrative of being a faint memory as the weather gets warmer in April|1 Just imagine how much masks the government can buy if they use the 8 billion dollars and ask the defense contractors to stop making bullets and missiles and convert some of their production to mask then again one of my hillbilly friends thinks stockpiling on guns bullets beer cigarettes and a bible will save him from COVID |1 decent job by what standard Are we bending the curve so we dont hurt his feelingsTrump ran into a brick wall called reality and was basically forced to admit the sky is blue What did he actually accomplish|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19|1 No they have 16 ECMOs|0 Yeah it would suck for current homeowners the prices probably wouldnt recover for 20 years Same time there would be an influx of people with their grandparents savings so maybe the market wouldnt be too bad We havent really seen anything like it so its hard to predict|1 Thanks How do you know for certain Is there any way you can share how you know this|1 Ive been following this YouTube channel It documents the daily events of an emergency room nurse in Wuhan who is infected with the virushttpswwwyoutubecomchannelUC3083ib3xCod6Vz6I34WZUQ|0 You mean the US and the EU When there were red flags and warnings all over And now theyre discussing herd immunity etc Yeah no shit|0 You are the grandson of my dreams Your Grammy is lucky she has you|1 Lol at all the remindmes as if when OP posts later if he has Coronavirus it wont be the biggest thing on this sub|1 Get ready were about to see how bad this really is|0 Hi No one at borders is testing because the kits are underproduced and we cannot obtain them on a high level|0 Yea Ohio did this today at like 5 Everything stated 4 hours later at 9|1 You kinda are no need to live your life in fear Just follow basic hygiene like washing your hands after you shit and not touching your face with dirty hands Youll most likely be okay if you do get yeah its probably gonna fucking suck but you most likely are not going to die|1 if people stop eating out the restaurant owners are fucked and their employees so they cant pay their billsrent Then the people they owe money to are now fucked If the economy tanks we all get fucked But other the other hand going to restaurants is just adding fuel to the flame Honestly I think were fucked no matter what we do which is probably why the govt seems to be doing basically nothing|0 Youd probably get yourself sick wearing a mask anyway assuming you arent trained on one|0 All of the people in China who risked everything andor gave their lives to get the word out are my heroes I hope they are remembered as such for a long time to come|1 Tested positive for pedophilia|1 And all the conspiracy theory documentaries about population control|0 China Cant As for the WHO theyve been doing a good job by reducing panic When you work at the scale of several countriesyou have to abstract things by making certain people expendable like how our bodies do with cells During the start I was one of the several to sign the petition at changeorg knew it wasnt gonna make a difference but did out of frustration but now Ive changed boatsWuhans government did a bad job but the central government kicked in and did the right things 1 for Xi Reminds me of how immune systems workOther countries cough cough USA Canada Italy et al had lots and lots of time to prepare but fucked it anyways|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Shit Im sorry dude If its anyone you know and even if not I hope they are pulling through|0 Well you should also look at the recovered number which is hella low as wellso it is not as good as it seems I guess there are way more cases that are not tested yet or people even do not know that they are infected|0 Look up Normalcy Bias This is what they are suffering This is dangerous because it leads to underpreparedness and finally panic Im in Latin America and Social Unrest will be inevitable Im actually a bit more afraid of this than catching the virus|0 Thank you for all your help and work This very nice and easy I appreciate it and am forwarding on to my elderly parents one in Washington and one in Illinois Thank you |1 Thank god im not the only one|1 Agreed My Grandpa actually went to high school with the Don Says hes an asshole Keep in mind they both were stubborn and opinionated so they would naturally be in competition with each other especially in hockey|0 GagBut ya know with love|1 Yet I dont Especially when it endangers other people not only the person in questionSay would you respect my right to drive drunk and kill myself by ramming my car into a young family and their two childrenNo So why would you respect my desie to go out and get infected and then spread it to another half a dozen people who will spread it to another three dozen which will spread it to another twenty dozen who will spread it toYou know This is why we had those videos of stubborn old people refusing to wear a mask and follow quarantine being slapped around and dragged into vans by police Because if you respect their right to do whatever then the situation in Wuhan would be EVEN worse than it is|0 Statements made by public employees pursuant to their official duties are not protected by the First Amendment from employer disciplineSource Garcetti v Ceballos 547 US 410 2006|0 If nothing else the fact COVID19 is more than halfway through Ebolas deathcount in such a short time is scary as fuck and should be enough to shut up naysayers|0 This is Wuhan ChinaNot LombardyNot BeijingNot SeattleThis is Wuhan We had clusters forming Westchester Nassau Tea Neck All from one little prick who didnt feel too sick used public transit and probably recoveredPurim was when we saw the quarantine zone go in to effect for New Rochelle Purim was the beginning of the endSome cocky little twerps thought lets congregate people into these tiny halls and read stomp our feet bring the kids bring the old you must listen to it live The most cocky still held their partiesThere are now HUNDREDS of cases in Boro Park We will see 30000 people needing a hospital bed by next Friday There are only 5000 hospitals and not enough ventillatorsOur morgues cant handle 25000 dead bodies It will come to that|1 Its bad enough that there isnt enough supplies to go around for front line medical personnel in different countries but my govt Canada is rumored to have place holdreserve orders for masks really need to look this up I see it in the field and Amazon probably due to increased demand but no official sourcesI got enough respirator cartridges and filters to last a season or two Managed to snag some rubbing alcohol last weekend As many others stated once youre set up I feel so much more relievedRight now Im practicing home reentry disinfection protocols mostly with zoning the house with boundaries so outside clothes dont pass a certain point And also figuring out the best way to sanitize outdoor clothes when I return from scheduled supply trips Mostly a bleach soln mist spray would suffice for the time being|1 Calls up doctor who immediately uses her time to praise dear leader|1 1000 this Getting minimum wage doesnt mean unskilled Everyone in broad healthcare is skilled and needs skills to do the job right from cleaners their importance is utmost to nursing staff not only nurses are nursing staff|1 Thank you|1 Mayor of NYC said experts are telling him that the cases will probably peak in 45 days and then start to decline New York is going to be torn to shreds by this Looking at a minimum of two months of things closed down if their predictions are rights New York is going to be in an extremely rough spot in a few weeks|0 Yes Doctors fax orders and prescriptions all the time|1 I actually disagree in this case The only thing front line medical professionals should get is actionable material Provisional treatment and management guidelines are a good example|1 What Ive learned from this is that some governments care about saving lives while others care about saving the economy|1 It does not give you confidence in the flow of accurate information|0 No Im good actually|1 More or less The data on infected coming out of China is unreliable Its still useful but with high uncertainty We will need to wait several weeks for international cases to grow both in number and to resolve The data will be analyzed every which way age medical conditions severity means distributions generations mutations symptomsyou name it Great for amateurs to practice their logic and creativity as well as learn from the professionals and established modelsOf course hopefully the cases wont grow in number due to better awareness hygiene standards and containment measures|1 Shit went from 9 to 3k real quick|0 Four new cases in WalesA further four people in Wales have tested positive for coronavirus bringing the total of Welsh cases to 19 its chief medical officer has saidDr Frank Atherton said three of the new cases two from the Powys area and one from the Swansea area had returned to Wales from northern ItalyhttpswwwtheguardiancomworlditalyA fourth person from the Caerphilly area has no history of travel to another country where the virus is present and is not known to have had contact with anyone else with itEarlier today it was confirmed a worker at the Office for National Statistics in Newport had tested positive for the virushttpswwwtheguardiancomworldlive2020mar11coronavirusupdatelivenewsukhealthministeritalylockdownaustraliauschinastockmarketsoutbreaklatestupdatespagewithblock5e68e1068f08c2df6d2776d2block5e68e1068f08c2df6d2776d2|1 This one is ReedPop which runs several other massive cons in the US I like to believe theyd probably still be okay if they cancelled the con|1 Yes he does and will hopefully be allowed to speak the truth and keep his job httpswwwwashingtonpostcomoutlooknscpandemicofficetrumpclosed20200313a70de09c649111eaacca80c22bbee96fstoryhtml|1 Think about it though If more people are tested we will find more cases and that will make it look like Trump has no idea what he is doing and hurt his reelection chances It makes perfect sense not to test more people This is just a Democratic hoax and its well contained so buy stockss|1 My in laws are in their 70s and theyre under complete lockdown I wish more people their age would act the way they are bought their supplies and went under lockdownEdit spelling correction lmao|1 Both of these claims are false I will trust my government and the statistics off the WHO over some dodgy linksEdit by the way I like how you ignored both other points|1 please continue|1 This is the most frightening disease Ive ever encountered in my career he said sitting without a mask gloves and protective googles and taking to a journalist who had a direct contact with a lot more people than an average person|0 I guess Im just a glass half empty kind of person retard420|0 They think were a bunch of idiots All they have to say is Do not buy them Doctors and nurses need them If they run out there will be no one to take care of you|1 Its funny how people keep parroting these two events like there arent 100s of other events similar in size and scope occuring all over the place Professional sports for example Until the federal or local governments tell them to shut down they probably arent going to|1 Perhaps you had a bad experience 20 years ago The world has progressed quite a lot since then and your jaded ideas of free health care are not what you say America could learn how to do it properly by following countries like Australia Japan UK and many others that have the social conscience to support their people I would never want to live in USA again|1 Please let me know if you manage to convince your alma mater being able to show that another school has done it would go a long way to convincing my own University|1 Please dont could Europe take acts together|1 You dont need baby food its a marketing gimmick Formula yes if you dont breastfeeding but regular food is fine once you start solids|1 Nah theyre either tankies or wumao|0 or businesses what the fuck|0 My coworker has the virus she called the hospital beforehand told them she just came from a high risk area and they asked if she had symptoms and she said no and they told her to come in she developed symptoms 6 days later she worked for 6 DAYS Well now were all exposed|0 Putting everyone on lockdown will put a lot of control into the communities and stop it from getting too bad People start looting during a lockdown Theyll get shot by policeNational Guard Ill be glad when the finally call for it|0 Two weeks ago Northern Italy supposedly had nothing to worry about Before that Iran was unfazed by the virus Things can move very quickly and reactive measures are often too lateIts a lot better to overreact and take extreme measures than to wish you had done more earlier I currently wish we did more earlier|1 No he isnt running tommorow|0 And now the Busch Beer guy Busch Beer guy thank you|1 This sub brings out the weirdest politics|0 Ohio emerges as leaderWords I thought Id never seeStill good news is good news|0 This outbreak is showing that view precisely isnt the case The Netherlandss RIVM is being criminally negligent and Italys northern hotspot broke because hospital protocols werent being followed|0 sad|0 Im gonna ask a really thick question how do you clean your phone|1 SARS was not more contagious as is evidenced by the fact the planet surpassed total SARS infection numbers a month ago|1 LOL Jeez bro I get that you have a true believer script to run but come on You sound like a schoolgirl in love with a guy that beats her be we all just dont know how truly great he is This shit is a country ender i get that you are doing your job but this is just weird|1 If he coughs then were in BIG people trouble Like the adult kind|1 Me too In December I got in my Dads care at the train station and he had the flu I was symptomatic within the hour it took to get home|1 Maybe fuck off back to rflatearth eh|0 No|0 Yeah this is unprecedented|1 Kiss me Im Irish|1 yep you convinced me this sub is definitely not filled with chinese propaganda |1 Herehttpnewsrthkhkrthkencomponentk2151103620200226htmspTabChangeable0 is an article on it Another couple have been charged with lying to authorities|0 I have 48 rolls That makes me pretty rich|1 Sigh How oftne has someone actually die from flu Like no complication no nothing just flu Its pretty hard right Again this is something all medical community knows China I think even explained it recently saying thats just how we count death the final cause So yes It undercounted flu related death but thats just how they do accounting It isnt bullshit Think about your food Did you eat a hamburger or did you have bread some steak a few pieces of bacon and some cheese Just different way of tallying You can say thats bullshit but really not|1 Thank you for posting this Really eye opening article and a really strong hypothesis about why the Federal government is dragging its feet If Im reading this correctly according to the paper a suppression strategycomplete lockdown will occur sometime mid to late April and last until September The bigger the geographic area and the higher the population of older people means that the lockdown would occur later so Canada may lock down after the United States However yesterday Trudeau did say that it will be a province by province basis which makes a lot of sense as Ontario has a significantly higher population density compared to other provinces Ontario will probably be locked down way earlier before the rest of Canada|1 Most governments will lie about the numbers or delay testing USA look at the Italians for a clue Death rate nearing 7 critical 10 So that is 20 needing either ICU in a hospital or dead and majority suffering I would say this is as bad as it gets for something being as highly infectious as this is|0 At a Korean hospital and just got tested Im not sick but my school advised me to go That shit hurt The results come in 24 hours|0 Sepsis by the definition is bodys overreaction against an agent and that overreaction includes cytokin storm etc Someone correct me if I am wrong|0 Its not to become immune its to try slow the spread so they can manage the load on the hospitals I dont get it but thats the plan|0 State of emergency was declared after the first death The mixup in signals is between what Trump actually says and does vs what the liberal media says he says and does|0 Potentially 34 million dead|0 Friends without benefits|1 Nice to see Bloomberg getting flagged by the bot as unreliable source LMAO|1 Hope so and hope its contained like whoever they had contact with etc|1 If it wasnt clear I was talking about making sense of something that denies being made sense of because it doesnt follow the laws of reality Its quite clear Christianity doesnt follow the observable laws of reality The simplification I made isnt meant to be taken exactly literally but its my fault for not communicating that clearly Christianity however is in fact a pyramid scheme and you outlied exactly why victims might not want to fool others but theyre complicit in the scheme even if its not intentional And a lot of them do learn of the scheme and become aware of it but then they become intentionally complicit Religion in any case survives on the imperfection of humanity relying on logical fallacies and careful indoctrination A Christian is a Christian only because of that Christianity has far too many errors to be considered true by anyone who was not indoctrinated or taken advantage of while vulnerable You will not find a single Christian who became one by using proper logic and study|0 Ill do all that plus throw in a few rolls of toilet paper|0 Sadly common sense does not always work for politician bureaucrat or capitalist|0 You are a sociopath trying to fool scared people into buying gold so you can make money|0 They told the world thats just how we do things like some people use imperial and others use metric thats just how we do thingsYou mean they lie Everybody knows thats how they do thingsDont you not see how this type of lying would affect the kill ratio of coronaBy your logic there hasnt been a single corona death Corona doesnt kill you Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome kills you|0 Man still using this formula after almost a month come on be smarter evolve|1 Actually several flu trackers have shown an increase in visits to the ER and doctors offices for flu symptoms that then tested negative for the flu This has occurred at the same time that we are seeing a drop in positive flu tests This was highest in the Pacific Northwest and California The data was for the end of February and ended at March 7th and specifically called out that the data is noisy without more information It was posted here just yesterday Additionally there are absolutely some deaths that have test positive posthumously for COVID19 but the very limited testing makes it really hard to know how many people are dying and they assume its the flu or unrelated to COVID but might be For the reasons you call out above I think its probably pretty low but its also pretty early to tell 17 days IIRCUltimately its really tough to say how bad it is and thats part of the problem Pretty much the lowest rate shown in any country and situation is something like 5x more deadly than the seasonal flu while also being more contagious that alone is more than enough for caution IMO as the seasonal flu kills a lot of people every year|0 Glad more people are wearing them I read thats how Singapore Taiwan and Hong Kong minimized their infection rates Thank you for being considerate around pregnant women|1 I agree its needed and Ill take the money but I wont forget their failures either|1 I did a lot read on The Korea Times and found things is not like you assumed There are many still wait on bed and Korea are busy to expand their beds And from this httpswwwkoreatimescokrwwwnation202003119285469htmlhttpswwwkoreatimescokrwwwnation202003119285469html The KCDC said more than 80 percent of coronavirus cases are not severe and can be fully cured So what define of severe in KCDC is unclear|1 ill concede at this point I think I helped provide more frame of reference to your worst case I meant to at least If no one thinks it helpful Thats fine too|0 Ive been expecting Reddit to develop server problems|0 I am 65 and I am on day 14 of a voluntary selfquarantine I am not going to engage in unsafe behavior If this thing wants me it will have to hunt me down|0 i thought i was the only one in denial hoping the numbers were wrong S|0 I am pretty the fact that we dont have enough supply for ourselves is the bigger reason|1 Sounds like what happened to me about two weeks ago All thats left of it right now is a small cough First few days were rough though|1 Yes this is exactly what Im looking for There have been some reasonable estimates so far if I can find them to crosspost or if you can find them thatd be awesome Unfortunately estimates could go either wayBut constructive proposals are keySorry for the late reply been crazy busy|1 About the numbers of infected no about the severity of the virus yes|0 Ok now Indiscriminately call everyone a cunt and tell us what you are going to cook on the barbie|0 Yeah I mean it just seems like they hope people will just forget 40 cases today that people will just forget about when the next update rolls around |1 Kind of surprised they simply observed the kindergarten that his kid went to instead of shutting it down for just a couple of daysAlso no reports of what hotel the Shanghai lady stayed at while in Germany Hotels are kind of opportunistic for exchange|0 Theres a trade off to be found between locking everything down immediately you would damage the economy a lot people would be furious because they lost money jobs etc for a flu and locking everything down too late people die hospitals collapse I believe our government was slightly too late but I dont think that other countries are doing betterGuarda un po come cambiata la posizione di Salvini che interpreta proprio la pancia del popolo In bocca al lupo|0 Oh yeah i read about the plague once Thanks for your feedback|1 Yeah just got one today Waaaay higher price than before|1 Society is too fucking indoctrinated to realize this Its scary|0 By then well have an effective antiviral cocktail and or an effective delivery method of antibodies which theyve already started looking into from blood plasma Same thing was done with antibodies and ebola Well probably have a vaccine by the fall as well Im pretty sure were good over here in the west Antiviral in 3 or 4 months antibodies by 6 months vaccine 914 months at the very max|1 Couldnt they just make them 12 floors big Nothing too complicated Like setting a tent|0 France and Denmark both reported in the last 24 hours that 50 of their Coronavirus cases severe enough for ICU treatment were neither old nor immunocompromised Just be informed|0 So you might not know the difference hereChina built two hospital and in ten days both can treat like 700 patient With all equipment to threat serious casesThey also turn the stadiums and convention centers into it is called hospital but only qurantine mild cases who do not need too much treatment and can overcome the virus within weeks themselvesIn this video it shows the convention centerBTW since all people in these open space are already infected it is unlikely that the disease would spread out All doctors and nurses wear protections so theyre fine I would say this video is kind ofmisleading|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Please DM|1 1 fuck It doenst go away does it2 smaller fuck encephitis hasnt been noted as a common synptom afaik so this was a coincidental discovery 3 medium fuck add this to the list of things well need to test for in 3 months reinfectivity male fertility lung recovery presence in cerebrospinal fluid|0 Its really not rocket science to understand that wearing a mask SIGNIFICANTLY reduces chances of you inhaling this viral particle as it flies through the airYes assuming its the right kind of mask and that youre wearing it correctly But most people dont catch diseases because they inhaled droplets flying through the air They catch it because they touched a contaminated surface and then their face without washingsantizing their hands first If youre wearing a mask but not following the handwashing guidelines then the mask isnt going to do you any good And if you are following handwashing guidelines the mask isnt going to give you much extra protectionIve even seen headlines such as WEARING MASKS INCREASE YOUR CHANCE OF GETTING VIRUSIts not that the mask itself increases your risk Its that nonmedical professionals often dont wear the right type of mask or know how to fit it to their face correctly and if youre constantly adjusting a poorlyfitting facemask then youre touching your face much more often than you otherwise would That is what increases your riskEdit here is a commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfi14dbwearefourswissscientistsstudyingfkemxpg by some Swiss epidemiologists who are doing an AMA It explains about the masks and how wearing them correctly is actually really difficult if you havent been trainedEdit 2 as this personhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUScommentsfhyccepleasetellmewhyusmediatellpeoplethatfkfpv8z pointed out N95 masks also have to be replaced every few hours in order to be effective So if youre just wearing one mask per day and then wearing and handling it incorrectly on top of that its not going to protect you and will probably do more harm than good|1 Medical care availability is an important factor here If there arent enough hospital beds then even regular cases can get critical China had the option to pull in medical resources from across the country Italy and other countries may not have that option|1 No|0 Thats great meanwhile in my state someones insurance denied covering the cost of the test leaving them with a 2000 bill|1 Idiots Hand sanitizer and masks are ridiculously easy to make Also the people buying grey market sanitizer and masks are idiots|1 Stupid here does this also include type 1|0 Yeah not allowing events of 250 people meanwhile my high school of 3200 is still open I know fatality rate for us younglings are low but we can still carry and spread it to our parents|0 Since when were they giving us the full and honest truth as far as Im concerned the PM made stupid claims in the beginning and is finally contradicting himself showing our nation is run incompetently by the most incompetent libtard leader weve ever seen|0 Punishment should be commisurate and murder is more than enough If in your country you give life without parole for selling drugs maybe you should strive to get a better system yourselves|0 Doubt that but wouldnt complain|1 Bold move Cotton|1 If there one positive thing this outbreak is bringing it is at least unveiling extreme incompetence and lethargic attitudes among disaster response bureaucrats and leaders around the world if that even was any news to begin with|0 Omg That is recent This is what he said weird httpstwittercomfyangepstatus1237063616748228614s21|0 He also reveals that eight of the nine Hong Kong residents who tested positive after disembarking the Diamond Princess cruise ship did not have symptoms of the diseaseAt all or just at the time they were tested Did they develop symptoms|1 You find it hard to understand that being prepared is good Im not blaming anyone just saying its better to be prepared You dont have to dwell on the death and destruction Imagine if every meal you ate you had to go shopping for beforehand What most people do is a step up from that And a step up from that is having a a few weeks worth of tins and essentials in case of this type of shit happening Simple stuff|0 Thats the numbers in Wuhan going down thats still by far the majority of open cases Thats the measures there from January 23rd finally showing to have been effective to some degree|1 thats because youre weak|0 You seem to be implying that wasnt the plan from the start They want to ease the public in to it before putting their foot down Plus this way they have longer to plan how to actually enforce it|1 Me I dont have a car but happy to help out downtown|1 Yeah Something really quick such as martial law with enforced quarantines millions tested etc would need to happen within the next week or two Right now its just closing schools telling people to try to work at home Grocery stores need to be delivery only etc for this to ever work properly|1 Imagine how much Americans would be called racist if Trump said this|0 Deaths are a function of new cases from on average 17 days ago The lockdown of Lombardy is what 7 or 8 days old So its probably too soon to see a positive impact of that on deaths|1 Hi friend I agree I am really hoping South closes until the corona virus dies out Because if I get it I know its going to be bad I am in the last semester of my PhD and I dont want to die before I get it|1 I got an award thank you|1 Dont get me wrong I believe you Its just surprising to me|1 If this method fails the administration recommends consuming those with the lowest GPAs Athletes excluded of course|0 Well damn This will impact our language choices no doubt Back to disseminate|0 There was 1 city that was able to defend itself from the Spanish Flu in 1918 That city was San Francisco They acted in a proactive manner as the health officials had recommended instead of reactively Perhaps it is something for people to look at I get that people want it to be nothing I get that people have to work etc but I think the fact that there are schools still out there demanding doctors notes etc is wrong There should be modifications to the normal way of life occuring now I am lucky my only minor child attends public school online My husband has health issues that some say have about a 13 mortality rate with this virus If my state made me send her to brick and mortar school sure she would be fine My husband on the other hand could very likely become infected and possibly die I dont think the government should be making our risk assessment for us Nor should it mandate that we have to take that risk There has to be a middle ground somewhere|0 more specifically anyone who voted against public health emergency up to the last minute should be fired immediatelyinstitutions need to clean out their dead weight they cannot coast by on incompetence there has to be accountability|0 I understand that but to be honest and hopefully not morbid how do we know that half or more of the Wuhan population isnt dead Thing is we dont|1 No problem I figured someone would P But seriously cant say people are dying left and right where I live and then post some twitter click bait unrelated to the virus|0 CCP Virus how ironic|0 So terrible but so true I hope they give tests for free decentivizing tests through financial burden would be extremely detrimental to how this plays out|1 I would think it depends on if there is a sustained outbreak in a North American city and screening measures will be targeted to travel history to that city to heavily discourage travelThere are good measures to take and I am not advocating for any blanket travel ban Travel patterns are not so neat anyways and any measure on such restriction needs to be covering more just the long border The measures bear more resemblance to internal population containment measures than international ones to interrupted transmission within North America Either country getting a foothold for the disease is bad for both you cannot quarantine and travel ban your way away from that due to intra North America travel patterns|0 Yes the NBA testing helped a lot of ppl take this seriously and helped shit down clustermaking games with audiencesBut Idris Elba getting tested while asymptomatic|0 Great but science doesnt arrive at the truth with one study Or one person studied It requires setting a very high bar for evidence And that means healthy skepticism to try and punch holes in theories and it requires the findings of studies be replicated or a demonstration that they cant be So for examples did others on the bus get infected some other way did the bus ac have something to do with it were they all standing in line before boarding how does it behave with no ac what happens on a plane in a car in a house on a boat on a train sounds like green eggs and ham lol can we replicate this spread on other buses etc You can argue why this the study is correct but that isnt what science does It isnt how we get ever close to the truth Instead scientific research has to eliminate all the possible alternative explanations and askand answerquestions that allow us to refine our understanding Thats how sciencerather than common sense or old wives tales or superstition or beliefs or hunchesget us towards the truth and how we have progressed as a species to holding small computers in our hands instead of sticks and rocks |1 I mean you can say a lot of bad things about putin and many of his measures are rather unusual but this wouldnt even cross his mind This is some james bond villain scenario|0 Oh My God|1 aiyana thinks the entire social order of our civilization at least in america will be destroyed in a few weeks s dont matter when talking to these people|0 Wow Thats a twisted sub|1 Go to configure select the slots tab select the GPU option click OK select O CPU and click remove You should be left with 1 CPU Click save Let me know how that works|1 Sorry Just deleted her info|0 Tell jobs this they are sending the at risk people t work from home but anyone else considered fit not so much|1 They also stockpiled mechanical ventilators the kind used in an ICU Those do not expire and will be quite fucking helpful|1 Every country is the samePeople who where told its just a flu the flu is worse theres no risk if youre not in Wuhan etcTheyll never realize they might have a life threatening disease and might kill people around them So theyll just take what they have for a simple cold and wait it out until its too lateIf not treated with the total lack of any immunity against it it will definitely destroy lungs and heart tissues cause secondary infections and lead to deathPeople in Wuhan and all confirmed cases around the world have smaller mortality rate because of the early medical treatment not because the virus is tame|0 No they clearly wont Get a grip|1 Most likely yes It would also stir even more crazy conspiracies up|1 I take anti inflamitories anyway And I wont be stoppingIm in the vulnerable group either way At least Ill be a little more comfortable from my normal pain levels if I continue to take themEdit I need to elaborate I quite literally cannot function without these meds I have a prescription as long as my arm just to move my head Im wheelchair bound and isolating myself and my family for the long term I understand the risk in taking these medicines but I cant move never mind parent without them|0 I think he just got very unlucky Does he have any other underlying conditions hes not telling us Skeptical wed all end up like that if we get it|1 They are very different kinds out outbreaks but I definitely agree with you about Singapore One of my best friends lives there and was telling me yesterday about how well the country has managed it He went as far as saying while the virus is a concern they have complete confidence that the government will be able to manage it and do what needs to be done to keep it under control After the first few PRs had their status cancelled for breaking quarantine everyone else seems to have fallen in line quickly after|1 Yep We are fucked Tories dont care this is a cull for them|0 You got one thing right I am serious I dont even really know what you mean by your comment and I stand by my original point|1 except two thingsOne we have no fucking idea of it turns out to be true Remmeber when we laughed at all the fart disease spreading jokes Until we found out that this virus can indeed spread through fart aerosolsTwo Conspiracy theory does not automatically mean wrong It just means that theres a theory of someone conspiriing Chinese reporting low numbers is a conspiracy theory chinese government conspiring against telling the true numbers yet everyone knows its a fact|1 wow|1 Plus what does peerreview mean when reviewer and reviewee share same interestlol ok if you start questioning the very basic ethics of science im done|1 maybe also if people of high positions start to die|0 Where you read that please Im interested in more information about that|1 2 weeks from now it will be worse not better based on what is happening in other places|0 Already have like a smart person|1 Oh I meant to say that we already have enough research on that so its not much of a threat to us|1 Thank you so much for the details but his tests have all come back negative and his blood shows that he has no antibodies to the virus as well implying that he never had itWow that is weird|0 Idk free market society If old person gives you their stuff and money which they wont need when they are dead then what do they really lose if they have no family|0 PSA to Germany and the rest of the world That is the govt doing that and not the peoplePlease know that we the people dont support that action|0 yeah well sadly trump isnt the problem America was and always will be a warmonger that bullies other countries and then even pretends to help them Most of the terrorist organisations are the direct reaction from american freedom|0 The source works in a high level position in the federal government It is a family friend and they gave us a call they told us so we would be prepared before its announced and the chaos ensues Hope this helps|1 Yes this is also why the nCoV spreading to the US isnt really a concern|1 I would recommend seeing a doctor for anxiety That is what I ultimately had to do I hate taking the medication but it is literally the only thing that calms me down Please know that you can only do so much You can stock up on food buy the gloves and masks but only time will tell what will happen See a therapist a doctor anyone Express your fears to them and they can and will help you My DMs are open if you needwant to talk|1 Stop being ridiculous|0 Its spread by breathing Bob were all fucked Bob|0 I just checked the snap map theres like 3 snaps Weird for somewhere with such a huge population|1 Wait wait wait we regret fascism now|0 I dont know She doesnt know and feels trapped in her job The issue is she doesnt have time to look for a new job or to retrain Cant afford to quit|0 Ah yes I am on deaths doorstep and in a triage I think now is the time to be 100 honest to the doctor and say I smoke 3 packs a day sCould it be people were lying It is not uncommon to lie according to health professionals I talk to|1 They are using the word Serious in place of RecoveredNo theyre using serious for serious and Total Recovered for recovered There are more serious cases in just China than there are Total Recovered|0 Better late than never I guess|1 1 17 yr old means were all going to die in 1 week reddit|0 Awesome workCould you also post to rDataIsBeautiful and invite people to join this subThen more people can subscribe to this sub for the uptodate and high quality info|1 Haha its funny because people are dying We have double digit new cases and they dont tell us how many or where until midnight that day Meaning most people dont find out until the next morning|1 I guess Ill just have to take your word for it|0 Good call|1 In Finland they The Social Insurance Institution or locally known as KELA Government agency for social security benefits pay your full salary from the time youre in quarantine Normal sick leave compensation from the govt is 60 from your salary if youre sick min 10 daysBoth are counted as taxable income and the same tax percentage is used what you pay normally However if your percentage is lower than 25 then you pay 25 automatically|0 Its also this You cant get a real CFR until we have resolution of casesAnd Im assuming those numbers are under the assumption that everyone can get life support etc|1 I mean realistically even if its just the flu you should probably stay home if you can afford to Its just being considerate of your coworkers at that point|1 Its probably the easiest way to tell the average Joe that they probably wont die thereby lowering panic from people who buy out all the masks and food from those who desperately require it|1 Yeah all these two week plans are wishful thinking at best likely|1 Imitially read orgasm failure not sure what would be worse|0 Yes its awful that he died and if he was given proper treatment he probably wouldnt have died|0 Im just reminded of when Hostess went bankrupt and there was a run on Twinkies Things were going for hundreds of dollars per box on eBay Few months later it was back to normal Something so dumb can cause people to panic what do lifethreatening scenarios cause|0 You shouldnt use scientific terms like case fatality ratio with the numbers that you just conjured up out of thin air this just spreads misinformation|0 That is really good|1 Can someone tell me why BNO news stopped providing province specific data It used to be a way even my family abroad could see number of cases where I am in my city but they shut that feature down two days ago Anyone know where I can still get the weibo sources they pulled from|0 Even a college dorm isnt the same On cruise ships everyone eats the same food from the same handful of places for every single meal including the staff Theyre also constantly traversing the same narrow heavilytrafficked hallways many times a dayThink of it this way a norovirus outbreak on a ship will rip through hundreds of people within a week How often does that happen on landJust last year 475 people got norovirus on a Royal Caribbean ship that holds 6600 passengers Compare that to a nearworstcase scenario on land a Chipotle worker just offcampus at a college with 14000 students came to work with norovirus and he spread the wealth So we have food source college dorms here The toll A bit north of 140 Boston Collegehttpswwwcnncom20151208healthbostonchipotlenorovirusindexhtml if youre wondering Bad But 1 of the population vs 7 Not apples to apples but close enough to conclude that the cruise ship was significantly more conductive than an onland scenarioYes Im including grad students in that mix because its in Cleveland Circle most grad students live within 2 blocks of that area and probably 14 of the clientele was grad students and staff The BC case also gets a boost from the fact that Chipotle catered the basketball teams lunch and the whole team got sick Source I knew an assistant coach but if you dont want to take my word for it they had to reschedule or forfeit a game|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The gap is very large between China and rest of the world I would take the number in Korea for more accurate estimate for now I think it is better to look at the number again when there are more tests done outside of China yes I am learning from Taiwan now to not trusting the numbers from China so easily|1 Please consider posting this is rHumansBeingBros With the original versionhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsewm7sppicturecirculatinginchinaarequest too 3Not sure if people will like it but more definitely needs to see this at a time like this The support is precious when many tend to dehumanise the ordinary people of Chinese Hope people will like it too|1 And then he gets beat the fuck up by actual coronavirusers for joking about their suffering oh and he gets corona but nobody helps him because they think hes joking about it again|1 Lol I betfree something|1 My DH has the same wo heart disease at 62 but his NLR is fine|1 Most jobs dont even have paid maternity leave|0 Mutations are random Its better for their ability to spread and survive if they mutate to be less deadly but its completely random|1 Thats hilarious Im about as antiCCP antiCommunist as one can get Check my post history if you dont believe it Im just pointing out how things work in the logistics world When there is a supply chain disruption the effects dont fully work their way through for weeks or months|1 Yes and Italy is testing more people every day than have been tested so far in the USA If you want to know why there are only 400 confirmed cases in the USA theres your reason The USA is eyes closed and pants down|1 Im not sayjng thats a better way to livebut in controlling an outbreak it sure does allow for powerful counter measures that we shouldnt neglect to factor into our comparisons|1 There are not 4704 ICU beds These numbers are pulled out of someones ass|0 ALL major countries You sure about that|1 I mean if everyone in America tweets at McDonalds that they need to shutdown their drive through Im sure they would listen to a couple hundred thousand Americans ShutItDown|1 Some good Coronavirus humor |1 Yeah but a hazmat suit stops the intercourse spread|0 How did they know that the bystanders were afraid that the man was infected Maybe the bystanders had no training in first aid and didnt know what to do Jesus no need to sensationalise everything|0 Mortgages and credit cards are only a portion of the expenses to keep a business going They can suspend them temporarily I have a feeling our s in borrowed money is much higher than Italy It helps the average consumer but credit card companies and mortgage lenders lose money that hurts them too though no where near as fast They employ CEOs and minimum wage workers its not just rich fat cats losing The money has to come back from somewhere Suspending interest rates on student loans sounds great and yes it definitely helps but the irony there is all of these millions of kids are not getting what they borrowed the money for Forced to leave campus and go to online course work it is heartbreaking Theyre losing the whole experience that goes along with college and also the time with the College Professors that i personally felt were able to be more engaging and interesting and really get you thinking A fun change from high school That is where we are at now The enormity of all that has happened and I do not just mean the literal spread of the virus will be so far reaching its almost incomprehensible Already almost all of the kids in America have paid a huge price|1 The fuck are you talking about Someone in their mid 40s was a teenager and college aged through the 90s Secondly how the hell would you prevent a novel virus back in the 90s Seriously wtf are you talking about|0 China has quarantined entire cities millions of people built hospitals in 10 days forcibly tested every citizen within those citiesweve done NOTHINGno travel restrictions no tests NOTHING And now were about to get Creamed not my words that comes from trumps former cabinet member|0 Disney is the scum of the earth I hope one day they burn in hell|0 Ill add it to my to watch on Netflix|0 Canada can not afford to wait to stop the spread In my opinion Canada should shutdown for 2 weeks now If we dont it will be too late|0 Thank you Dollar General I salute you We must look out for our elderly Its sickening the mindset of the majority of people Oh it wont affect me so I dont care Youre essentially saying old people deserve to die My aunt has cancer I work at an airport with her son Im terrified for her|0 yeah its not the severity of the virus its a stress test for public health systems and government preparedness|0 Thank you for sharing Im hoping this will all end someday|1 Son of a bitch Im sick of these dolphins|0 It will work the vent settings must be adjusted as each patient will only get 14th of what the vent is set to deliver The issue is that each patient would need to have the same vent setting requirements ie the same oxygen amount and PEEP setting So this would not be effective for weaning a patient However if trying to vent a large amount of people it will help to assist with poor respiratory status and is bette than the current alternative which will be running out of ventilators|0 Just like the simulations|1 People out here thinking you arent going to get this virus are naive Best thing you can do now is stay healthy and stop stressing and be smart to not overload the hospitals Everyone gets the flu Everyone gets the cold Everyone will get this People die its sad I know but we cant protect everyone from everything People really need to look at the governments response to this and decide if that is okay going forward|0 That sounds like a personal problem Mayor ButtigiegEdit Friendly reminder that CLO was modded on multiple subreddits at the same time and has actively campaigned for any Wuhan subreddit hes not mod of to be shut down This is not organic activity|1 What effect does ace inhibitors have|0 Its not an assumption He is clearly looking to blame Trudeau and him alone Closing borders and starting mass quarantine is a step the federal government has to take His post a half hour before this is saying Trudeau is doing nothing except hiding while Norway shuts down the country Its a pattern of political bias which I find unnecessary I personally agree with you and think there have been failings on both the provincial and federal level and would really like to see a ramp up of more extreme preventative measures taken immediately Ontario closing schools after March break is a great start and I applaud it I dont know what the next step for the fed should be but I certainly would like them to get more vocal and start pushing for work from home initiatives on a national level Push social distancing Push closing of events and gatherings The province might have to enforce these things but guidance from the fed will help push them in that direction|1 I thought it was 77 but 58 where positive|1 Exactly but this also means that all the time earned by slowing the spread of the disease its extremely valuable because it is being put into finding a vaccine and a cure|1 So stay inside and play it safeEdit For some reason people took this as me saying that you shouldnt go to work Im from Australia so I dont know what rules the US are putting in place but I simply meant stay home and on the weekend and practise social distancing Obviously people need to go to work or the entire country shuts down We dont have to be either extreme There is a middle ground|1 Its not incompetence Its arrogance I had to work with them in the past as well as with the LRN laboratory response network There was a lot of tension between the LRN and CDC Specifically CDC wanted all reportable disease samples sent to CDC instead allowing LRN to test It all comes down to publishing papers They want first shot at the data for publishing I suspect same for delay in the covid test kits Cant publish if you use WHO test kits But if you develop your own Its all about those sweet sweet JAMA papers|1 You are not going to develop cytokine storm if you never developed any serious symptom like pneumonia in the first place Your immune system only goes into a frenzy after the virus gets into your lung|1 unfortunately I cant read |0 Also in Texas Bunch of folks around here coughing severely not a one wearing a mask We are not prepared for this Not a school had been closed but the county assures us that theyre on top of it when everyone should know that proper tests are not availableAnd the populous follows smiling blindly No worries|1 Quote me what you literally just wrote that you thought was important that WHO said Jesus you made the claim and you already forgot Its one message ago Troll someone else with your 1 minute memory|1 I was so worried about all my friends in China back in late JanuaryThey are now worried about me instead|0 Also in the US we are exporters of food and energy Even if china shuts down completely we can still grow way more food than we can eat we can build as many trucks to drive it around as we need and we can drill and refine as much gasoline as we need to get the food to usWe can do all of that without needing anything from china We also have incredible natural resources and can jump start domestic production of essentialsEven with a higher than suspected deathrate with the incredible increases in automation we should be okKeep calm and carry on Wash yo damn hands|1 They all have been treated with aggressive medication that is known to cause organ damages It could be this or the virus or both|0 Nah Hes trash af|0 The most ironic thing is he didnt really do a huge thing he saw something he warned people thats it He did something every normal person would have done Fuck This is so sad|0 Sorry maybe inconclusive testing would be a better termThis story below was reported on the 9th by Taiwan NewsSome reports have quoted Chinese physicians as saying that some confirmed cases in China had not tested positive for the new virus until their fourth or fifth examination Chen said the authorities took notice of such reports but hold that the failure to detect the virus in previous tests is more likely due to a lack of accuracyOn the 13th the CDC admitted to faulty test kits due to manufacturing errors this is the only organization to have done soOn the 15th the CDC said WITH THE INCUBATION PERIOD BEING UP TO 14 DAYS ONE TEST AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME ONLY TELLS YOU IF SOMEONE IS INFECTED AT THAT ONE MOMENTI am more referencing the ongoing inconclusive testing by the Japanese aboard the Diamond Princess which seems similar to reports from China earlier in the week|0 As someone who have lived in Switzerland they are able to do all those things without restricting freedoms|1 low risk less than 150 employees and customers infected s|0 I felt this way too until i talked with my cousin and found out hes more concerned to the point of buying an UV lamp for disinfection His girlfriend works at national health institute We fucked|0 A free market is not crony capitalism|1 Well Ive got job security like you wouldnt believe I work in the public sectorPublic transportationFuck my life|1 North Korea keeps saving the world by firing nukes into the Kaiju nestand you ridicule themTypical|0 IncorrectThis is exactly what I addressed in my prior commenthttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpcutcdcbudget Also in 2018 news reports circulated about an 80 reduction in the CDCs program that worked in various countries to fight epidemics That was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted fundingAgain this was emergency onetime funding allocated as an emergency response to the 2014 West African Ebola outbreak It was not a part of the normal CDC budget There was a chunk of extra money allocated over 5 years and it ran out|0 They dont deserve us Were too good|1 not defending him i may be wrong here but from what ive seen uk is doing RELATIVELY better than rest of europe Almost 25000 tests conducted only 300 positive compare this to Spain Germany Francex200BAlso a EU person cant travel via UK as the policy applies to anyone in schengen area in the last 14 days|1 Nice share Washoe County is a great place to try this out in the US Nearly 100 vehicle traffic and rugged terrain everyone can get to you quickly|1 60s with underlying health issues Im going to lose my mam and dad to this i fucking know it|0 For real same I cant afford to be out of work for a few weeks Im trying to save what I can just in case|1 Awesome post this is a great insight and debunks any BS passed around on social media and traditional media|1 The RNA will certainly survive freezing but the viral envelope might be disrupted I wouldnt rely on it to sterilize anything Presumably youre cooking the meat before eating it That would definitely kill any viruses|0 Ive read about this the logic makes sense but from my perspective the thing is this virus is so new that no one really knows if this method necessarily works What if it doesnt Then what How much damage would we have done by then|0 I dont know but at least it isnt getting removed like anything that Trump says|0 A someone with Asthma and GERD Id like to to tell you fibrosis of the lungs is irreversible they dont magically heal Ive got slight scaring on my Left lung from acid reflux that was 16 years ago and its still there Inhaled steroids help a lot but dont heal it|1 Here you can get a semiautomatic shotgun like httpswwwsportsmanguncentrecoukberetta1301comp12g has a 10 round capacity|1 I imagine the local cops will be pretty pissed for their hospital colleagues Time to dust off that no knock warrant|0 Listen you are not alone and maybe my situation also sucks I live with my aunt in her house I have been presenting symptoms of a cold sore throat sneezing runny nose Luckily no fever or coughing but Im still quarantined in my room Anyways she has guests over at the house tomorrow and she is yelling at me for wanting to tell those guests that I am quarantined in the house with a cold As if I am overreacting and being selfish for ruining their plans with something minor Maybe it really is no big deal but I really do not feel right hiding the fact that I am sick when we are all concerned about illnesses right now I honestly do not know what is the right thing to do I may disinfect things Ive touched and chill in my car for the majority of tomorrow|0 Easy to grow as well Everyone can do it|1 The fact that someone is giving you that disinformation should make you feel worse Dont expect anything for at least another year to 18 months by which time the majority of the world will have already been infectedHeres video of the presidents toady trying to spread that disinformation and then immediately being corrected by the expert on staffhttpstwittercomAcynstatus1234950243512242176 who is probably not going to last very long because truth tellers dont in this admin|1 He definitely is in the early stages of dementia and has been for awhile as is Biden|1 Socialism for ya Good job King CountyUp your vitamin C intake powder form Colloidal Silver Selenium potassium iodide|1 Picture this Nurse comes in to tell one of the volunteers a patients mother you are about to see is wearing a mask Nurse says she looked at her strangely and wants to know if she has covid her exact words Nurse becomes upset because the mother was taken aback Nurse complains laughs and then leaves the scene Patient not wearing mask and mom come in everything is handled by the volunteer and that was that Nurse was not wearing a mask but was judging an individual for taking precautions and wearing a simple mask The volunteer was me that day|0 I am seriously asking due to ignorance what kind of healthcare system did HK have 17 years ago|0 a song and dance are u alright i washed my hands with some fucking hand sanitiser you wanker im not surprised if this is my teacher undercover yano|1 Why is Youtube not letting me save the video even to my own watch laterIt says the action to save is unavailable for content made for kids I mean if anything this is more news than kidfriendly content right|0 Things will start getting serious when you ran out of toilet paper|0 Does anyone know Ms Rivers or Mr Reich Im thinking about reaching out to them on Twitter and asking them to do an AMA on this sub If anyone on here in particular a researchervirologistpublic health workeretc can use their credentials to ask it would be hugely appreciated|1 I think people are now waking up to oh shit why are these incompetent buffoons the ones were hedging our economic bets onThis is the big one|0 its a start Unfortunately there will be a million people in the world who has this thing they will acquire it within the next 2 week|0 Now this is how you incentivize people with cold hard cash|0 I swear to God this must be the most commonly repeated bs that I regularly read on this subreddit Who convinced all of you folks of this Was it the doomer crowd in the other subreddits Because sure af thats absolutely falseNo vaccine for SARS was ever licensed for the extremely simple reason that SARS disappeared thanks to public health measures And with it almost all funding and interest for a vaccine However academic researchers kept developing prototypes It is true that inactivated wholevirus vaccines fullSprotein traditional adjuvant vaccines caused vaccineenhanced disease in animal subjects However those are by no means the only approaches you can take in developing a vaccine Researchers completely overcame the issue either toying around with more sophisticated adjuvants or with subunit vaccines If you want my opinion the best candidate was the RBD subunit Alum vaccine by Dr Peter Hotez Its sitting in a freezer fully finished in a lab somewhere in TexashttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4130269httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4130269|1 Contact your congressman or woman and ask them to support HRes 897 to provide an Emergency UBI for every American 1000mo nontaxable for everyone over age 18 during the state of emergency httpsmobiletwittercomTulsiGabbardstatus1238516118391791617|0 To be honest I hadnt even realised that it was the bags on the bus people thought were bodies They look more like soiled laundry bags to me|1 No north America rather just see a couple million people die than spend the money to save them Thats what happens when you run your country like a fucking corporation|0 I work in the service industry and as private music teacher If we stop everything except work all my customers and students would stay home and Id make no money This is a worry of mine|0 Not that I disagree with you but arent most govt contracts to single companies|1 Well done France|1 Hold up People would be charged for being held in quarantine|0 At a certain point you have to expect this to spread No one is going to cancel all events for the next 3 months in hopes that it stops the spread If youre a government agency and you dont spend the money youre allocated that year you wont receive it next year so theres a bit of a need to spend it Im not saying thats the case here but its a valid reason Theres also the economic impact of planning for a large festival booking hotels restaurants etc and then canceling and having your area lose all of that incomeA vaccine is a long ways off and living in fear is a shit way to be Be smart about what you do and where you go and let nature take its course|0 Issue is you need the beds for the eventuality of those roughly 20 that will be serious critical It is a catch 22 Mitigate and let people die or treat and let people die|0 Give Noah some love it took a long time to build that ark and although nothing is said about it its hard to imagine he didnt encounter being mocked to some degree when asked what he was doing |1 Please keep us updated Im praying for you|1 H1N1pdm09 spread very fast and targeted those under 65 years of age It infected about 61 million people in the US and resulted in 12500 deaths in the US alone estimated range of deaths between 151700 to 575400 worldwide A disproportionate number of deaths occurred in Southeast Asia and Africa H1N1pdm09 virus still continues to circulate as a seasonal flu virus and cause illness hospitalization and deaths worldwide every year|0 What the fuck are they for then|0 And now we have the Grand Princess|1 I cant do it because I dont have a computer but I hope for those that do they can get closer to solving this|1 Better yet the VIEWERS need to write snailmail letters and call out the ADVERTISERS for financially supporting this social and health IRRESPONSIBILITY of Fox hosts Post this across the internet but it needs to be letters they carry more clout as a gauge of how angryhappysadwhatever the consumers are 1 written letter equals the value of 500 shoppers in importance text and ecommunications are too easy can be done by bots and just represent a lower level of engagement so are given less weight WRITE A LETTER WITH PEN AND PAPER Snail mailIt doesnt have to be a long letter just say something along the lines of Company X you paid for ads on Fox at a time when it was dangerous to the American consumer use this as that is how business sees the people they advertise to as potential customers of their products you me and everyone is a consumer use it to your advantage you have what they want the money in your wallet and this is how you let them know for Fox editorializing to be making political assertions that downplayed the danger we are now in and your support of the network helped get us to where we are now Your advertising sponsorship of the many Fox commentators implicates your responsibility for the lax government response In the beginning of this crisis it helped play to the Trump Administrations tonedeafness on the seriousness of the corona virus epidemic and valuable time was lost to their dismissive indecision I will never again purchase your products as long as you advertise and support such outright lies diversions and irresponsible editorializing as was displayed by multiple rightwing Trump Administration mouthpieces on Fox I will also make a point to let friends and family so affected by this pandemic understand the actions your corporation made in financially supporting Foxs lies and the ramifications to the spread of this disease and push them to join me in boycotting your products as wellSigned XDo you think that if the public that is angry takes it out on the Fox News advertisers and stops buying their products its wont make heads roll at the network Ohhhh yeah Absolutely it will once the sponsors drop the networkNOW IS THE CRISIS TIME TO PUNCH IT THROUGH when people are scared and angry Groundswell this baby You want the miserable shitstains like that cunt at FoxBusiness gone Go after the advertisers now that sales are down and theyre starting to shit bricksSauce 18 years in the Nielsens Its ALL about the ratings babyWho are the advertisers Am not being glib we honestly dont know as I cut the cord in 2002|0 Uhhif its the choice between suffocating to death or a 3d printed valve that may have some issues Ill take the 3d valve|0 prep is part fantasyat best prep is for having something tasty while some people are eating government issued granola bars and powdered milk every single day for two monthsIf there are no government issued granola bars then tribes will be knocking down every single door in a town|1 Yes thats why they call it triage like in a war zone They are having to allow people to die to save others Its not pleasant and honestly I cant see how it wont happen in the UK which saddens me|0 So is S or L the original Did it get more dangerous or less dangerous|0 I am interested in at least looking into this|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 It means they discovered over 1500 infected people in few hoursThe numbers always increase the most between 7 and 9 AM in China They didnt discover them all in the past few hours|0 Well Its Florida|1 Good point SoftServedPoop|1 I have been honestly awed at the way people are reaching out to one another Most of my friends are low income many of them working in the arts or in the gig economy or in service jobs where work from home isnt an option This is a disaster for all of them It is awful Rent is due in 19 days and for many of them the next paycheck may not come before then Even if none of them get sick things are going to get really bad for some of themBut my facebook feed is full of people saying I bought extra rice and beans if you need help let me know or organizing food programs for kids who are reliant on school lunches or connecting service worker friends who have been laid off with nurses who need childcare because schools are out Its stunning and its beautiful this web of support thats being woven I am terrified but I have never felt more hopeful for the future we are building|0 Hopefully thats it|1 LOL Not quite American and many Canadians bought several MONTHS worthThe problem is after the first batch of crazies did a hoarding shop those of us who are not hoarding realized Hey I am running out and wont be able to get ANY So if we could find some we bought a little extra in case the insanity continuedWe are no longer experiencing hoarding on the West Coast of Canada high asian and international population but friends are now experiencing it in more remote cities in Ontario and elsewhere|1 No USA|0 Apparently a study was done saying since Coronavirus has become a thing on the news 37 Americans are NOW LESS LIKELY to buy or drink a Corona Beer when they apparently were more inclined to still buydrink one prior to the outbreaks Thats pretty much all you need to understand the IQ of the American population|1 Most of Italy has a very old population as well|1 Dont worry the recession after this is over will take care of the demand for workers|1 Its almost 400 EST I cannot find a transcript on the CDC site Only the recording Does anyone have a link to the transcript Thank you|1 Im sure hed enjoy one anytime|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 our Republican brosHave you seen who is the top democratic candidate He isnt winning because republicans are alone in their stupidity|0 If they billed my insurance Id still have a deductable and 20 percent coinsurance Although I guess if quarantined were considered hospitalization they would cover 100 percent after the deductible I thinkA lot of people have 5k deductibles though And those people who have no insurance but too much income for Medicaid Do they lose it all I mean they would if they went to the hospital for any normal reason|0 Some bad hombres|0 My exhusband and father to my three older kids would absolutely not let me take them out unless the school district closed Hes a teacher in the same district and is not remotely concerned about the virus Its maddening|0 Ive read 100000 pjs around 12000 in stockpile Id like to know how fast a vent can be built and deployed Tried to find but couldnt|1 Jailed for what Typhoid Mary put this to the test back in the 1900s Being immune to Typhoid she harbored the virus and spread it to everyone around her She worked as a cook moving from one kitchen to another as people around her starting dying of Typhoid She was put in quarantine for years but that was later found unconstitutional Now if this was an act if war maybe you can get them for treason But then you already have the commander in cheif okaying the behavior at the highest level|0 Flu had a second wave because those with mild flu were kept on the front lines of WWI while those with severe cases were transported for treatment Thus it was the severe case that was spread|0 I come here to learn about Coronavirus not Trump Derangement Syndrome will you fuckheads knock this bullshit off in every god damned thread The rest of the world doesnt give a shit about your internal domestic dispute take it back to your politics subreddit|0 Me and my husband havent left our home since Monday He is over 60 with poor lung function Thankfully we can work from home although some friends and family have questioned our decision to self isolate Neither of us are ill or showing any symptoms we are just being overly cautious We feel it would be better to look back in a months time and say ok we maybe overreacted a bit than be lying in a hospital bed in a months time with pneumonia|0 It is really getting old seeing this comment Everyone has context and is judging the accuracy of the numbers based on there own understanding of the situationWithout new info I dont think these comments improve the discussion|1 Unfortunately it will be within weeks|0 Finally hopefully universities follow|1 Its like people want to think that their leaders are incompetentWe know they are That unfortunately colours peoples view of everything they say even when theyre right|1 Most civilians do not benefit from masks You are not educated or disciplined enough to do what it would take to make it effective Stop spreading false panic Wash your hands often and dont touch your face Thats all you can do The rest is up to serious people If shit hits the fan you die Dont worry theres nothing the average person can do about it Specially a civilian|0 Its unlikely to be even true its fucking newscomau No one else is reporting it its murdoch printed garbagetake everything newscomau says with 15000 grains of salt|1 Im subscribed to much worse Chinaflu wuhanflu all those Its time to cut them off|0 Im a rival tribe Id like my scalp back|1 Is this a source you trust If so thanks for sharing|1 Youll be surprised to know that its lobbies that dictate laws not citizens shocking|1 Also always include sourcesDont be ridiculous This is a discussion forum not an academic paper There is no requirement to produce sources The idea that every forum post would cite sources is ridiculous especially where peer reviewed information is a Google search away for anyone who cares to look Edit did you read what I linkedI did I have several comments but not time right now|0 People whove never been to China saying this is an insult get fg lost716 bucks is a lot of money in China More than the average salary in Hubei and many lown income families would do anything to get that moneyMost chinese people DONT share the same idea about money that we do Forget all that idealistic nonsense youre insulting my honor kind of thing People are more than happy to take this money which helps them immensely to cover the healthcare and funeral costs No one is ever even remotely going to complain about these 716 bucks in China|0 Thanks for this|1 Please note this AMA is taking place on rCoronavirus The guests will not be answering questions here Thank you|1 The majority of Americans have never left the US This is well known Other people do come here though thats true|1 How dare he insult our NHS its the envy of the world|0 Good luck out there seriously It isnt right how society has continuously stepped on people they are now depending on And I know this is a song as old as rhyme but it just isnt right|1 This is just so sad if this virus causes brain damage|0 Only if you overdose on it or you have a preexisting liver conditionParacetamol overdose usually unintentional is fairly common but it IS one of the safest medicines when taken according to instructions Same cant be said of NSAIDs|1 Nope Made sure the wife all the kids got it but foolishly never got around to it for myself After the first flu I even more foolishly thought why bother now Ive already had it famous fuckin last words but yeah never again will I be last in line for that shot|0 For some reason the thumbnail is a very early draft of the paper before Id checked my figures The link goes through to the proper paper though with the better figures I literally whacked out the first draft as quickly as possible using figures off the top of my head with notes to check them all so that I could run it past the other mods to see if it seemed like the sort of thing we wanted then filled in the proper figures while they were doing so It is indeed the world population estimate for 2050 It was obviously in my head from somewhereAnd before anyone says the world population estimate for 2050 before 50 of the world population died in 2020 dont doommonger Its against our rules |1 and CDC told them to just stay at home nothing to worry about|1 Do you understand that you could then be passing it along to others in different health Missing graduation is such a small concern go look at the rest of the country try Seattle or globe right now|0 Excellent points here and its pretty disturbing too|1 To put this in perspective for highschool students with no preexisting health issues SARCov2 will kill 12 students per high school in the US|0 Man I am a Chinese and I live in US for 5 years due to study I have same idea just like you I have no experience living in Europe so I am not commenting Europe These is no perfect living environment Compare US vs China I feel way safer in China due to better police service People will say CCP watching people but I dont care as a normal people I feel safer and no gun abuse Our colleges are not best but also ranked pretty high The tuition per year is just like 101500 bucks 6k10k rmb Way cheaper medical service Bad thing comparing to US High house price which leads to relatively small living space per housecondoapt Lower income comparing to US Hard to tell which place is better and I dont want people to judge because we all know that is a questions with no definitive answer|0 Yeah mine has basically done that too If anyone travels to a RED or YELLOW region they are required to stay home for 14 days after returning|1 Its not that simple you dont knbow what you are talkig about and for the last time this is NOT a scientific fact People who are not professionals using masks may touch their faces even more so then they would normally do Keep your tehories to yourself I am not going to keep responding to this nonsense I am posting these comments here for people who are reading this and hope that they do not follow your flawed arguments and adviceEnd of converstaion|0 If youre not old you really dont have to worry much For many people its not more than a cold Its when it hits older people that its a problem They have a very high chance relative to younger people of developing respiratory problems|0 Im sorry dude thats a hard one Are they able to spend more time home at least Away from possible infection I hope so|1 Aside from being quarantined and not working a lot of them are still doing fine I have partners working there Locals And they update me frequently So far the earliest date to reopen is updated to end of April|1 Was your illness like bronchitis but with a more persistent and dry cough I had something like that that lasted a month I caught it from my roommate who had come back from a twoweek trip in Japan on Oct 1 as they had an even longer version of the same illness 152 months|0 Someone needs to show this to rhe idiots that are out partying for spring break|1 Yes but UK numbers arent accurate because they arent even testing those with symptoms|1 I understand what he means but hes worded it badly|0 No they didnt HAVE to They were forced to|0 The past few days has been interesting in that there is a definitive new cluster and continued slow growth of the identified epidemicThe logistic fit cannot be trusted with the most recent waveHowever we still continue to undershoot any reasonable exponential or quadratic fitPerhaps most interesting the quadratic fit is pretty much linear Its 0003 x2 2959 x 94|1 Yup I live in Milan near one of the spread cluster recently discoveredThey closed every university and school with a delay of less 1 day Also yes the favourite sport of Italians is to criticize Italians|0 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 I agree with delivery people having job security Theyre the ones keeping us supplied And with less people shopping in person more need for delivered goods If anything I would expect more hours|1 And leave all the penguin poop for the janitor to clean up|1 I definitely think he would have caught it by now|1 The confirmed infection rate is claiming much faster and higher than SARS did so though it may level off its certainly looking like its not going to do it any time soon|1 Youre welcome btw youre definitely not wrong about the tylenol thing in general I was simply speaking to the direct interactions with covid19ibuprofen|1 I highly disagree with this mans logic It is incredibly shortsighted These old people keep our daily world going They are part of the glue that holds us together They are grandparents parents brothers sisters They are scientists doctors pastors CEOs professors officers politicians attorneys accountants architects managers etc I cant imagine losing them their wisdom companionship and guidance As a millennial my life and work would massively suffer without these old people|0 Your husband is probably one of these greedy Americans who achieve a lot because of his individualism so he can give a job to 10 altruists like you with a good salary|1 Chances are by summer so many people will be infected that the mosquito scenario wouldnt even matter|0 the irony is that the prophet ordered that ppl should take precautions in times of plagues|0 Chlorhexidine is specifically one of less ineffective ones with less than 10fold reduction after 10 min exposure Other biocidal agents such as 00502 benzalkonium chloride or 002 chlorhexidine digluconate are less effective httpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463fulltexthttpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463fulltext|1 As someone living in Chicago please tell your husband thank you for me|1 Drivethrough testing stations are a really great idea even better than drive through liquor storesI saw parts of the UK was starting that as wellOverall this can really help reduce strain overloading of healthcare systems and also reduce chance of infecting other vulnerable sick people and healthcare workers|1 The number of deaths you cite seems low to you as of now but if we accept a conservative estimate that theres a 1 mortality rate its probably higher then the virus will end up killing 70 million people out of 7 billion if the disease spreads unchecked Thats a lot of people The governments of China and Italy are trying to check the spread through drastic measures but even this might not be enough to keep it from every corner of the globe Consider the fact that two weeks ago Italy had a total of 3 cases of the virus and today the entire country has been virtually shut down not with the hope of stopping the spread which is probably impossible now but merely of slowing it down enough to buy the world more time to prepare Viruses spread fast and people who have devoted their lives to studying them dont think that Italys action today was unreasonable at all I defer to their opinion because they clearly know the subject inside and out while I dontPredictions of economic fallout are assuming that the epidemiological prognosis is accurate which we have every reason to believe it is considering the expert consensus To at least partly understand why the economy will suffer consider a couple of factors 1 supply chains especially those with justintime systems like so many US businesses operate with are very vulnerable when any link in that chain falters as it might if say a country you import a vital part from puts all its citizens into quarantine You simply wont be getting that part for a while and not every company could survive this kind of disruption Also consider how much of the North American economy involves service and retail industries that simply wont be getting many customers if a lot of people in the neighbourhood are sick or in isolation Money isnt being spent and so the economy slows down Im sure there are other possible sources of economic trouble but these are the two I thought of off the top of my head Im not an economist but the causeeffect reasoning seems pretty valid to meId also argue that in the case of the US the Trump administration has been inviting a recession for three years now through its manifest incompetence in all areas of government which has been nudging the economy incrementally towards a fragility that it wouldnt take much to damage especially after the stock markets been in bubble mode for a while now Any market that has valued Uber a company whose chief assets are a few middleman apps that add nothing of value to the economy at 100 billion is ripe for a large correction|0 Yeah Thats fair too but its extremely challenging to scale even the treatments we have so far to many patients plasma transfusions are very complicated Maybe antivirals but the trial would end in a month at leastI think the main thing is to have basic things such as oxygen for everyone We just do not have a supply chain that works a few orders of magnitude that high|1 Of course youll have no case when you arent testing anyone|0 So its basically the flu but with 16th the number of yearly deaths|0 Yeah I understand that part ive just been trying to figure out how risky ordering food is right now and was curious what other people thought about it|1 Please just tell me why theres a mattress firm on every corner |1 Look am I surprised a 20something year old millionaire was too detached from the reality of the situation to realize its seriousness No Can I even blame him for not knowing the seriousness Also no What IS infuriating is the seemingly endless supply of people in this world who dont know jack shit about what they are talking about who not only cant admit to themselves what they dont know but also manifest their shameanger of not knowing into trolling the situation Read Educate yourself Check the biases of your sources Orange Man in the WH included|0 Im not being hysterical but go off Really not sure why youre on a coronavirus subreddit if you dont care Are you just here to tell people who are trying to reasonably exchange information that theyre hysterical|0 A global emergency is declared by the WHO as well as many countries locally|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Finally more truth starting to come out|1 Thats a tough one I think it can be ordered and forced into court Either way the delay would allow quarantining to happen|0 I thought I had lost all hope in the feds before but when Trump said that I realized that I still had a teeny amount of hope left and Trump flushed that down the toilet|1 Like McDonalds says You gotta love it|1 The Mad King Burn them burn them all|0 If US cases continue to increase at a steady rate even if its only 2 a day this is going to get very concerning very quickly|1 You know its bad when your current employer offers a worse vacation plan than Walmart I get 2 weeks vacation 1 week sick and none of it carries over or gets cashed out Its a pure use it or lose it system|0 Disgusting though youre getting to see true colors Theyll hurt big time after this blows over Fuck that guyId like to see lists of companies who said this or had similar response We can hold them accountable as people and just not invest pull out stocks from their company and write bad reviews If you think your money is more important than life and you expect people to go and sacrifice possibly their life and their kids you deserve to lose it all and see what its like being in our position|0 Im just going to throw it out there that 100000 is almost the number of confirmed infected in the world By that point wouldnt you would be seeing a lot more people dying kind of like how the first confirmed cases showed up in Iran I mean they arent testing many people in America but that number seems insanely high given what we know elsewhere in the world|0 Save the money for the dark times ahead and get married next year or the year after no hurry In April you will be forced to cancel the event anyways but hey Imma redditor|0 Well I dont think u should trust trump that guy is old rich white guy and people like him have zero care for others2nd learn from the pastin 2017 during Puerto Rico natural disaster trump went to survey the disaster and claim only 1617 people died while in reality more than 3000 died so again do not trust trumpthere are good YouTube channels that are providing much better info|0 Had to reprimand her like a childOh how the turntables LOL|1 Agreed Although there is a distinction between wild and wild endangered heavily trafficked|1 Yeah and I know someone still planning to leave on a cruise ship in a couple days Blows my mind|1 Glad I own assault rifles The cops will be overwhelmed day 2 of quarantine|0 Well Im glad to know being a smoker doesnt put me at higher risk at leastIm actually surprised not only because of the obvious reason of lung damage but also because the habit of smoking requires you to touch something with your hand to your mouth and would increase the chances of oral transmission Id think|1 Source was CDC who admitted this afternoon it never happened because they still havent been able to make a reliable test and that only 3 of 100 US labs are online so far so that sucks politico had an article this afternoon|0 Its not about downplaying the virus this essay is not outlining the possible longterm consequences Also the way you word it makes it sound like every case will get destroyed lungs liver damage What about the possibility of brain damage|0 I definitely think there will be movies and documentaries about this Definitely something about one of the plague ships Yeah it might be interesting showing how different people take precautions and stuff Theres already several books on Amazon about it Kindle only I think its too early for books Were still too early in this|1 Youre welcome captain underpants|1 Too bad the mask has zero protection lol|0 This is false and fearmongeringWhy no counter argumentation then Would be glad to hear really|1 Exactly what does that entail Genuinely curious as I think its a real possibility I live in Ohio and the governor just shut down dine in restaurants and gatherings over 100 ppl Cant imagine this getting better before it gets worse|1 I doubt it People are lazy And have horrible memories We cant even avoid repeating our past This will literally change nothing|0 Wow there are still people coming up with this retarded reply If only There were a cure for stupidity|0 Oh trust me Im well aware the side effects as Im on them for asthma |1 Nope Right now the leading theory is that the virus saturation dipped low enough to fail to register but wasnt fully gone yet and kicked back up But truth is no one has proven reinfection And its not happening regularly or there would be substantial support for it|1 MERS was more severe SARS is comparable in what we have seen so far We cant say for certain how severe but the death rate is currently outpacing the cured rate at least in mainland China But not enough time has passed to say for sure|0 Hes taking advice from Kim Jong Un The fuck|0 Im down to test this these people make me mad enough already maybe if you say you have it and cough maybe theyll start taking it seriously|0 Agreed Jersey here We get plenty of people who commute Ive accepted its probably floating in jersey somewhere I just gotta do what I gotta doAlso looking at swine flu from long ago It really was similar wasnt it Like looking at itit was like holy shit This was in my country reaping people and I was that unaware Felt good to be a teen|0 No because they are trying estimate the total number of real cases by using the IFR modelling from the DP data|0 Doesnt help that I live in Sacramento County and reports are that the person comes from one county over|0 As far as I know WA just decided they needed to ignore the CDCs bullshit|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 No matter where if too many are infected the ICUs will crash In Germany we have about 28000 ICU beds with a total of 500k beds overallJust imagine what could happen if just 1 of our 80M are infected of which 10 are serious Thats what breaks down italy right now those people are fighting hard but its a battle they can not winThats why it was so important to act from day 1 on which sadly no country in the world did maybe except for Taiwan|0 Obviously Thailand has a lot of experience with HIV treatment out of necessity An unexpected but very welcome twist|1 Wait so youre just fine with the US supporting Saudi Arabia in bombing civilian homes hospitals school busesI have seen no proof they are INTENTIONALLY doing this as attempting to genocide Yemen If and when that happens I will fully support the invasion of Saudi Arabia as I do chinax200BI didnt say you had to start a war to stop Saudi Arabia Just not participating would be beneficial enoughSo when Hitler started genociding everyone who isnt white you think a proper solution is to just not participate in it You think our maximum moral responsibility is to just not increase itx200BThe thing I HATE about anti war people is they are perfectly fine with allowing 10s to hundreds of millions of people to die to genocidethey just dont want to directly be responsible for deathOh 150 million people killed by the cultural revolution Well war is wrong so we wont stop them|0 His approach would be fine if we had enough ICU beds to help everyone who needed artificial breathing equipment But we have among the lowest number in Europe Its basically a crime against humanity especially because its highly unlikely to impact the PM or his family|0 Helpful map I found looking at the numbers and locations in my state httpsdatasctimescomcoronavirushttpsdatasctimescomcoronavirus|1 I thought it was nice to see that theyre taking it seriously and not only closing but also continuing to provide for their employees|1 Im having chest pains|0 There are already multiple vaccine prototypes but thats the easy part As someone who works in drug development the hardestlongest part of the drug development process is the testing of it It has to be deemed safe and efficacious in multiple clinical trials A 12 year estimate is an already very aggressive timeline To give you perspective remember the Zika and Ebola outbreaks In both cases drug development started right away after the outbreak The Ebola outbreak that started in 2014 the first vaccine was just approved in December 2019 The Zika outbreak in 2015 We still dont have an approved vaccine|1 They dont explain why Im wrong They dont show me evidence What they do is mock and insult me The same changes that make more southerly lands less inhabitable will make more northernly lands more inhabitable so whats the big dealhow do you want not to be mocked and insulted when saying things like that mate|0 I scored an amazing fur coat from 1917 2 years ago for 40 Disney glasses too Jan and Dean end of day clearance sale|1 The only flaw in your long comment is that he would be charged with treason He is committing treason but I doubt that charge ever gets dusted off again He would be hit many other charges|0 Most people in the United States|1 I never disputed that|1 Yea that sex junk song on his show was a crime against humanity Lost all respect for him after watching that atrocity|0 Like that would happen|1 I think we might actually see quarantine tomorrow It makes sense to implement quarantine immediately without prior warning so that people cannot leave the area prior to lockdown like what happened in Italy|1 Didnt we literally set a new test number record yesterday|1 People race is unable to learn of mistakes made by others|0 We have been in quarantine for 1 day how can you already be bored|0 It looks like a few people in similar field to yours showed up in the comment section to give a bit of input on that sort of stuff And while this is a noble idea theres a fuck ton more that goes into a vent and managing a critically ill patient than your average person with a 3d printer is going to have a clue about The article linked comes from a site full of independent hardware and software developers who happen to use 3D printers Some of them design 3D printers completely from scratch You can also find things like custom insulin pumps if you have a look around One of the first few winners of the competition they host won with custom eye tracking equipment for paralyzed people Very serious stuff if you pay close attention The software and hardware hacking stuff is even more serious|1 Can I ask besides the fever what else I too believe I have it without being tested bc of my symptoms Have had a fever since Friday ranges from 99102 but barely any body aches Fatigue is there some cough tight chest breath has gotten funky barely any body aches|0 That is with treatment though But 15 people need oxygen and 5 need a ventilator so the best guess without treatment which will be the case in the west since we dont have any spare hospitals is 15 15 thats a half of smallpox the disease that lead people to invent vaccines And vaccine for covid it seems is not possible|1 Thanks My work told everyone to stay home till the end of March per King county recommendations which is probably for the best|1 I wish to add one more quite vital fact When there is a sense that the enforcement of law is receding and when there is an increasing desperation by those who realize they then could be infected or starve for lack of work or access to food what will pop up at the beginning of the pandemic is MARAUDING Shockingly Marauders a term out of hundreds of years ago They will break in and steal They are probably not out to kill They are probably out to get stuff so they can sell it and survive or eat it They are single or married with or without kids This is not a joke The marauders will die out relatively rapidly as they will become infected because they are out and about Its something that the safety people wont discuss Its as if the safety community will all become Japanese bureaucrats|0 Im gonna go with yes Through rain and sleet etc|1 No its good newsIts best to keep the sheep calm to avoid mass panic|1 Just the flu bro Nothing to see here|0 theres already strains in California give it two weeks|0 ohhh yeah I should have added IOT I was reading about a French dishwasher that compromised a network Why do we need a networked dishwasher Besides the manufacturer goes cheap and adds super old buggy tech that has a million flaws|1 I read the full story of Li Wenliang I dont get emotional often mainly due to already being subjected to much trauma however his story nearly brought me to tears Im sure I speak on behalf of many people when I say thank you Li for all that you did and attempted to doYeah some people are heroes forever Good on him|1 Youre deludedThe CDC is enacting policy thats precisely in line with everything Trump and Mitch McConnells band has ever stood for appearance optics ratings business policy finger pointing retribution cover ups and winning Listen to all of his public comments it will only take a few minutes on Corona the last few days He never talks about people he only talks about business and the number of cases Hes a charlatan|1 I see your point but I think that is genuinely scapegoating the issue Even as we speak with no reference to past events and how this started we are doing FAR less screening and taking almost no precautionary measures compared to all other major nations with outbreaks How we are continuing to let this go by the wayside shows that we were never set up fundamentally to be prepared for this Regardless of distracting events this administration was and is continuing to fuck us over Also it shouldnt be up to the citizens to decide how federal government agencies handle a international health and humanitarian crisis|0 The faster all prepaid services such as cruises travel and events are sold back to some other idiot the more money people will recover Your body is permanently damaged if youre infected perm lung damage and its been said to stay in your brain stem and cause ongoing behavioral health issues No clue exactly what that means or what else it might doLook at how the two cruise ship were handled There is no plan of action yetI bet itd be safer to jump overboard instead of being trapped with the infected What if they quarantine that tool concert and nobody is allowed to leave Be safe my friends|0 Thank you people need to understand this|1 And no doubt every reply on Twitter was asking him to close schoolsSeriously dude Close the schools|0 Oh great No insurance Feel free to back to the street and freely spread the virus How could it not be free for everyone in times like this Do you think China South Korea and Italy charge people for testing|1 Well the parentheses are there because we cant say out loud the media are 100 and the banks are 100 under control of one percent without being shut down by the same media and banks via internet janitors who are on the payroll in some cases But usually deluded goyim themselvesJust because EVERYONE can be criticized except the holy tribe that is exactly why I do it Im proving a point exactly who out true overlords are and who is ruining our democracyYou can call your sub the most free of the freeIt aint even close|1 Lets not fail to mention that CCP has welded people into their homes I saw a video of an old Chinese woman describing how they were putting stillliving barely old people into the crematories Shit over there got dark fast|0 Thats interesting Do you have a link for thatNever mind a quick google turned thishttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar14antiinflammatorydrugsmayaggravatecoronavirusinfection Good to know Thank you|1 A couple of the celebs NBA players actors ect have posted videos where they have little to no symptoms|0 I dont think they had the resources to test 3700 people China however has the resources test millions and there are only 75k infected Sure that tracks|0 The economy cant withstand a neartotal shutdown for 2 months let alone the remainder of the year Youll almost certainly end up killing more people in the long run given that approach We have to let this thing go and hit its peak eventually We wont have a rocket launcher for another 18 months but right now the focus is on facing it with a loaded pistol instead of a dull knife and hoping we do enough that once we let it go weve lessened the severity a bit by delaying itMy guess now is theyre 1 simply trying to buy themselves some time for dealing with it somewhat more effectively before the case count really starts to spike 2 hoping well simultaneously educate enough people and freak some other people out enough that current extreme precautions have some residual effect on hygiene social behavior and daytoday life that last for a few months and help keep cases down and 3 hope to see some more conclusive evidence that warmermore humid weather will lessen spreadability to give them a few month break to ready themselves for round 2 next fallYoure making bets one way or another here If Im the fed Im making a bet that 1 Thisll behave like similar viruses and slow its roll as avg temps start to climb above 60 around the country 2 Enough is being thrown at this around the world that well start to get better leads on treatment within a month 3 Enough of the population will be scared stupid from all this that theyll maintain some cautious behaviors for a while and 4 The economy can bounce back pretty quickly from a 23 week halt but not much more|1 Or any hotels As an industry we are all being severely impacted especially in big cities Hotels could use the revenue and have the space|0 Really My wifes family in derby NY actually started prepping weeks ago and she thought they were being paranoid I thought you guys in upper state NY are ahead of the game|0 This is basic epidemiology and its a hypothesis about what happens in the future which our government is betting on Doesnt need to be peer reviewed Something like a graph showing what actually did happen say by this time next year would need to be peer reviewed btw Im a scientist with multiple peer reviewed studies myself Im not badmouthing peer review Just saying that just because this particular chart hasnt been been subject to peer review does not make it nonsense|1 Thats only 60 miles from me Ugh|0 They cannot come back into port They must wait it outDid you follow the Diamond Princess event at all Leaving people on the ship means that more and more people will get infected Everyone needs to get off the ship and into proper quarantine facilities ASAP|0 Agreed Buzzfeed News is at least as credible as any other main stream media outlet these days|1 Fuck Disney|0 Do you usually go to the ER on day one of your illness The virus doesnt peak immediately and healthcare isnt free Be rational Im not afraid just giving information I can provide credentials to the moderators of me and my wife since we both work in an er We have had reactionary talks about this infection Sit down|0 With the removal of half the game No survival or subway DZ is also a fuck fest because 1 team of 4 plus 2 with run through the poor 2 souls trying to farm|0 Coughing can continue after an illness because of temporary damage you might have done to throatlungs with strong excessive coughing|0 I cant stop touching my eyes Coronavirus is going to be in me at some point and I have to accept that Ive been taking a load of vitamin C and zinc to try and boost my immune system but who knows|1 For those pointing out that if a few thousand cases were evenly distributed across the US we probably wouldnt know thats true but thats not how respiratory outbreaks work This is transmitted by close physical contact The majority of cases are getting clustered in a limited number of focal pointsA few dozen cases in an area would provide a noticeable number of hospitalization and a couple of hundred cases would double what youd expect to see from flu|0 The villain of the series is Ebola the Hutt|0 Agreed|1 Why is he a fake account Looks like a real account to me from a spot check Watch out us fake accounts are teaming up|0 They decreased the amount of tests from 15739 the day before to 13603The positive the day before was 228 per test The positive today was 247 per testIf they ran the same number of tests as the day before the total of new cases would have been 3892 with todays positiveSo unfortunately this isnt good news just static in the data due to less tests being performed on a day to day basis|1 It took weeks of arguing and begging my dad to stop doing substitue teaching hes retired and doesnt need the money he does it because he loves it and he has no other hobbys he finally agreed this last weekend|0 My brother has really pushed me to do my own research on things and look at sources instead of just news stories Because of this weve been finding news from other countries and actually looking at things I personally feel as prepared as I can be for someone who works in a call center because of what preparation hes instilled in me Im honestly terrified but theres not much else I can do besides keep physical contact to an even lower minimum|0 That knife cuts both ways|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Thank you for considering this And thank you again for all your efforts Stay safe|1 Obviously many of us agree I just hope its something that we remember|1 You dont need an insurance for these cases They have to pay it back|0 This is an actual solution Fuck anyone that is encouraging any child teacher or staff to come to school in a Corona virus ridden area|1 There is a difference between removing that barrier and actually getting tests to people|0 Hide your stash|0 Nice to hear|1 Honestly I am hanging onto any little bit of good news I can right now Just because its not the BIG win its still a win and lets try to enjoy it to offset the crazy|1 A lot of people with entitlement and suchThat social safety net It is so choice if you have the means I highly recommend picking one up|1 NO MORE BAGGAGE FEES AND CANCELLATIONS FEES GET RID OF ALL FEES|0 I know some morgage bills are ridiculous in US so i wont comment on that but everything else combined should not put you at half that amount|0 Could it be that while it doesnt trigger it at infection stage when the virus has multiplied enough it does so the host does not get sick to the point of hospitalisation Or would it change based on the host cells it used to replicate immediately|1 The distribution of survival time from disease onset to death showed two peaks with the first one at approximately 14 days 22 cases and the second one at approximately 22 days 17 cases Fig 1c|0 If you go out 5 times a month for supplies thats 50mo for masks Is there anything youve given up in response to this that was costing 50mo Gas restaurants coffee moviesYou can also reuse the disposable ones if you let them sit for 710 days between uses Id just worry with a reusable gas mask that youd be using the same mask every time and if your cleaning process isnt perfect you might be doing more harm than good|0 EhPeople only think its a good name because hes the goat Like so many other players names if they werent good people would be memeing the shit out of them and Id imagine its pretty easy to meme faker if he was badGet him out he truly lives up to his name being a faker faking his way on to a team and taking away other players pay checks Like imagine if sword and faker swapped names from the beginning Sword would get flamed even harder than he does now because of his name|1 Might be a dumb question but can samples be combined to use for a single test Effectively ORing them Ie does any member of this household have it or to use for extrapolating general pop infection rates|1 If you have mild symptoms you might as well have flu Except if you do have flu you dont want to be locked in with coronavirus patients CoVID is way more dangerous|0 Canadian here Just an FYI I hear that the bears are coming out of hibernation so its best not to risk coming up here|1 Hi it appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the 2019 Novel Coronavirus outbreak centered in Wuhan China andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected This kind of post is more appropriate for the daily discussion thread on the top of the front page of this subredditWe here at rCOVID19 recommend following the guidelines and advice given by trusted sources Your local health officials the World Health Organization and others have been actively monitoring the situation and providing guidance to the public about itSome resources which may be applicable to your situation are as follows The World Health Organization website which has regularly updated situation reports travel advice and advice to the public on protecting yourself from infectionshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019 The CDC USA website which provides Risk assessments Travel advice and FAQs relating to the 2019 nCoV outbreakhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml The UKs Department of Health and Social Cares guidance to the publichttpswwwgovukguidancewuhannovelcoronavirusinformationforthepublicIf you believe you may have symptoms of the Novel Coronavirus or feel you may have been exposed to the virus speak to a doctor andor contact your local health officials for further guidanceFollow the advice of users in this post at your own risk Any advice that exceeds the recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts|1 I am interested in calling anyone who needs a chat I am in Saskatchewan and have free long distance I can call anyone|1 Oh no problem Happy to help Sorry about that I should have realized that you were probably dealing with a lot of stuff already and pointed out that fact in my first post And thanks again As a germsickaphobe and an all around worrier I found that the best thing to do is face down and crush said fears with facts and reality Rarely do I find it better to just try to ignore or something|1 We still see pneumonia patients every day Even mid summer Most pneumonia is not caused by the flu|0 The Spanish Flu of 1918 had three separate waves|0 iirc like SARS it has the molecular apparatus to correct mutations probably not as effectively as human cells for example but likely enough to mean it will mutate a lot slower than the flu|0 Its to appease patients into feeling helped when their doctor is prescribing them somethingGuidelines usually advise against antibiotics during a viral bronchitis When a bacterial superinfection does appear the antibiotics can be prescribed then and theyll be just as effectivePrescribing antibiotics for a viral bronchitis is a good way to reach AB resistance faster|1 Same here From Gulf Shores AL and everyone at work doesnt really care Some of my coworkers even seem to believe its a conspiracy to try and blame trump for a virus that isnt killing that many peopleSometimes I feel like I work with children|0 Yes it could be but even hospital personal has no clue whats about to hit them|0 Squatting is more comfortable|1 Except some young people are dying from it yes they have other conditions 21 year old died from it He had leukemia which he didnt know about until after hed tested positive for coronavirus httpswwwindependentcouksportfootballeuropeanfranciscogarciadeathcoronavirusmalagaspainfootballcoachleukaemiaa9404566htmlWe should be doing everything we can to slow the spread of this virus even if we think it might not hurt us|1 Why the hell arent they already|0 So a nurse who doesnt even work in the department heard from a friend who heard it from someone else I take it|1 Maybe Mickey will come visit when theyre fighting for a bed in the ICU|0 The answer will not stop anyone from getting the virus|1 No worries Never be sorry for a lack of knowledge if youre willing to expand it |0 They should have to wait until they are symptomatic like the rest of us|1 Good hopefully other universities businesses and organizations will follow suit|1 It will just disappear one day|0 Yeah the inside of a quarantine building is absolutely lovely this time of year|1 Thank you I ended up reading the whole account Very sad and powerful Thank you for posting|1 Im not sure what you mean by okay Its not much of an option at this point The Italian citizens are PLEADING to us to NOT make the same mistakes httpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUScommentsfhfxzyimaginelivinginadevelopedcountryandhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUScommentsfhfxzyimaginelivinginadevelopedcountryandWe need to stop debating whether or not social distancing is a good idea or not Its NECESSARY for humanitys wellbeing Especially in the US right now we are either about to see a massive spike in cases and see our healthcare system cripple or we can mitigate the effects to a degree where much fewer people will die I repeat maintain SOCIAL DISTANCING THIS IS NOT A DRILL|0 Man is USA beyond fucked|0 Its not just Reddit Were pretty much getting told in the UK by govt and media that the risk for young people is passing it on to someone old|1 1 Hes said way more time times that climate change is a hoax in his eyes And his actions clearly show that he does not believe it is real or even care about itEven if he did believe it was real he does not believe a key part of climate change That humans are causing it and that the effects are starting to be seen and that it is an urgent existential threat that must be dealt with He does not believe that part which is arguably the most proven and critical part of climate change How can you believe in climate change but not believe that humans are causing it and that its extremely consequential to our planets ecosystem and economy2 I mean True but cutting funding for the CDC will only put the public in more danger of Coronavirus infection considering the CDC outright stated how dangerous it is And defunding the WHO by 53 in my opinion is morally disgusting America is supposed to be the leader of the free world We are the richest country on Earth and we are a key contributor of UN organizations Us defunding the WHO is a horrible thing to do Now not only will we be underprepared but the entire world will be underprepared because the WHO will have a huge part of their budget cut and they will be unable to help accurately deal with the Coronavirus and prevent countries from being infected by it|0 Why should people be your google bitch You have the net look it up yourself There is a level of entitlement in asking for links when youre fully capable of looking yourself Furthermore people have a high tendency to attack the links you post as being not good enough Its a zerosum game one many of us cant be bothered to play anymore|0 It should have been obvious but some people heard that there were cases where people just had coldlike symptoms and acted like that was what the enter mild category consisted of|1 My 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at the beginning when they cancelled big events but the restaurants and everything were full until this weekend and italy is literally next door|1 For context most leading public health experts from the United States numerous other countries and the WHO do not believe largescale eg citywide quarantines or travel bans will be effective for preventing the spread of this or most other pathogens In fact they have stated these policies are likely to backfire like they often have in the past You can read some about their positions here and there are more more resources if you search for quarantine on Google Scholar httpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealthunprecedentedchinesequarantinecouldbackfireexpertssay20200124db073f3c3ea411ea88725df698785a4estoryhtmlhttpsblogscdcgovglobal20141013cdcdirectorwhyidontsupportatravelbantocombatebolaoutbreakhttpsmckinneylawiueduihlrpdfvol12p227pdf|1 Yes I meant their population is the second most elderly|1 The fewer times you have to go to the grocery store the better|1 I have formed some negative opinions on Chinese culture over the last several yearsI have regularly watched a YouTube channel called Laowhy Its an American guy who has been living in China for years I have witnessed via this channel and other various sources examples of terrible personal hygiene which I understand is the norm with a large portion of the population production of counterfeit alcohol products that kills people disgusting wet markets horrific animal cruelty exotic and endangered animals killed for fake traditional Chinese medicine bad traffic accidents where no one helps they usually point take pictures or just walk on by and carry on with their day Mob violence against foreigners xenophobia I understand that white people are called white monkeys a belief in racial superiority and of course the Uighers put into concentration camps among other things I previously had a mostly neutral opinion on China Of course I know that many people there do not fit into this picture but it seems these awful things are socially acceptable China really needs to make some changes to become more civilized This virus would not be affecting people if not for the fact that people think its acceptable to eat any random wild animal With that perspective I do blame Chinese culture for this pandemic Thousands of not millions of people may die because of itNo one deserves this coronavirus and I feel sorry for everyone in all places now affected The situation in Wuhan looks truly apocalyptic I really feel for you I do hope this event will encourage the negative aspects of Chinese culture to change|0 Yes Ive been sick for a while Cough fever shortness of breath nausea vomiting diarrheaI dont think I have covid but I am worried about what will happen if I do get it because my immune system is already down I have no plans to see my doctor Not unless I get to the point where I cant breathe on my own I wouldnt just walk into a hospital without a plan either If youre sick and need medical help please wear a mask when going in Or if you dont have mask use a tshirt and tie around your head|0 Gods plan included creating this virus to spread around so that you could believe he had a plan that somehow comforts you|1 breathe breathe and try your best to relax Go to youtube check out michael sealey self hypnosis on anxiety I listened to it last night and woke up feeling great|1 They charge that amount because of how long it lastsAnd theyre a relatively low volume producer and seller especially compared to say the north face|0 The Coronavirus will hit the US hard I dont wish death upon anyone but when this is all over the world maybe just maybe might be in a possition to punish Trump for this|0 Every day I love Taiwan a little more|1 Hes basically setting the tone that there will be MORE changes coming soon and fast Re Ontario declaring state of emergency Ontario is taking right steps to protect its peopleDo wash hands often Sneeze in elbow Dont gather in groups more than 50 people Social Distancing a drag but we all gotta do it Stay at home go out only if absolutely necessaryTrying flatten curve National Parks closed anything with a door will be closed starting on Wednesday We closed border to non Canadians with some exceptions The cabinet will discuss today what further actions to take Examining emergency measures |0 Im in canada and a lit of peoples attitudes are the same A lot of it is just a cold or just overblown I work in a store I normally get coughed and sneezed on daily I know I will get it most likely as it is in my city already They say stay in of you can yet the mall I work in seems to be like no one heard the message People wont listen|1 Heres another version of same thing pretty much httpwwwecnscnnewsscitech20200305detailifzuhesu4119901shtmlhttpwwwecnscnnewsscitech20200305detailifzuhesu4119901shtml|1 The loved one would have a better fighting chance not hooked up to a homemade device because you would almost certainly cause more damage from the beginning If you want to build something less risky try a high flow nasal cannula Then at least you wont cause a tension pneumothorax or what you guys like to call cytokine storms|1 Its only 1400 if he can prove he hasnt had a pre existing condition in that last 3 years that made this flu worse Heres an article on ithttpswwwaxioscomcoronavirussurprisemedicalbillsmiami1b80877824504746864cd5fc9459eefbhtml|0 They corrected this less than a day later and said that there is no actual evidence it is airborne|0 God tier title |1 I just decided to stop last night after friends in my chat group sent me this after learning I was able to stock up on protective gearshttpsi2wpcomtherandyreportcomwpcontentuploads202003coronavirusmemejpgw640httpsi2wpcomtherandyreportcomwpcontentuploads202003coronavirusmemejpgw640They can go believe the CDC but Im going to try my best for reduced exposure to protect my family and the older folks around me|1 Thank you for the linkI saw the option search bar flairUSACanadaSeems like you have to repeat this step everytime you go into this sub though but its better to have this option than nothing at all|1 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Big tall high rise compound with multiple towers Morrowind was one of the best of the series in my opinion It was the first elder scrolls game I played|1 I tried deleting it but FahCorea7 keeps runningIt killed on of my Macs|0 People arent reading this at all and making his case out to be a death sentence lol He literally says it feels like a cold He seems to be responding to the virus mildly Chill out people celebrities are human beings just like the rest of us|1 My state had its first cases yesterday tests got there Sunday and it feels like Im being crazy to plan and prepare But stick to your guns as far as taking care of your family Prepare dont panic Limit all contact if possible Even plan how you will take care of each other in your home|1 Care to expand Do you even understand whats being discussed and misinterpreted|1 Sarasota county near Travis AFB according to a comment elsewhere on this subreddit Completely unconfirmed so take it with a grain of saltProbably more official details pretty soon at least in a local paper somewhere|1 TBH it sounds better than the experiment they ran in DFW and ORD a few days ago where people had to be packed like a can of sardines waiting for hours to be cleared by customs|1 No their aim is to reduce the peak and as a consequence the many people with a mild illness gain immunity reducing transmission The aim is to reduce the peak and save lives We cant suppress a virus like this indefinitely studies show time and time again the virus will come back and worse when measures are lifted But I understand your confusion i can see where you and others get the idea fromEdit Sorry I really havent been clear The aim of the government is to save lives The lives of those worse affected by the virus and those that rely on the NHS They hope to achieve this by maintaining a rate of infectionhospitalization from major cases at a level below NHS capacity A consequence of this approach is that a lot of people will experience a mild form of the disease and will confer some lever of immunity to the population We still do not have the true numbers on the number of people infected and have antibodies The Chinese serological studies will shed light on this Again the aims of the government are to save lives keep the peak infection below capacity protect the most vulnerable in our society I hope that clears up what they mean when they say herd immunity is a consequence If not let me know and Ill try and find the appropriate published literature that might do a better job of explaining|0 20 years Dont be ridiculous it hasnt been wait wtf 911 was 19 years ago Jesus Christ|1 Nearly brought me to tearsOnly thing I found super weird thanks to you and your government Im sure that would make sense for China but reading that from a western perspective I guess it just shows to go ya|1 Holy shit Link|0 I got 7 day Suspension for telling the truth about my work at the defense dept linking to the article from the Canadian National Newspost from July 2019 about 5 Xhinese Nationals that removed a bunch of viruses from the L4 in Winnipeg included Ebola and others Its a classified so the RCMP handcuff them and removed them from Canada last July for shipping samples to Xhina without authorization|1 Yes But when China did it they didnt see anything wrong with it As soon as other countries do the same they think we are overreacting Ironic isnt it|1 Thanks for the question OP There doesnt seem to be enough information to accurately answer your question at this timeFor commenters please remember to follow Rule 6 in future discussions Avoid Unsourced Speculation Thanks|1 InterestingIran has largely deflectedignored the virus problem to a high degree and is experiencing 34 mortality|0 The most interesting thing is that the video shows that the Prime Minister has security they push people away and then he shakes hands with passengers FacePalm|1 httpsyoutubeE5NevDrhCKchttpsyoutube7LDlhxz2x8Dont tell me its better than that lol|1 How does getting tested help Isnt managing symptoms and getting rest while avoiding other people just about the only thing you can do|1 Theyre trading lives for the economy Straight up Doing nothing isnt a science based approach and if it is its pretty cruel|1 Do you guys in the states have contactless payment yet Last time my friend visited from the states he said cards over there still dont have tapngo Contactless payment seems like an absolute must right now|1 What is the best way to stay educated on the matter and help spread awareness Ways to help prevent panic buying etc|1 My college friend 38 lives in New Jersey and on Feb 26th came down with a 1036 fever and pneumonialike symptoms Her doctor admitted her into the hospital saying she had the beginnings of flu Her coughing and breathing worsened She tested negative for influenza and died on Feb 28th The hospital still claims she died of the flu Her family demands that her son be tested for covid19 but they refuse because hes asymptomatic|0 You have shitty reading comprehension skills|0 Yep Yep lets go ahead and toss it back into the BSL4 lab guys|1 Elect leaders that put the people first not corporations Get rid of citizens unitedStop allowing the obscenely wealthy to hide their money and not pay taxes There is more than enough wealth in this country to fund all of the relief systems that are necessary|1 We only have 350k open beds in average unless we can spread the 40mil infections event over the next 25 years most people who need care wont be able to get it|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 You might want to know human behavior during a pandemic There is a historical novel written by a famous novelist Daniel Defoe in 1712 roughly about a plague in England in the 1660s It accurately describes people who found themselves involved The most common were the totally selfish The most dangerous were the marauders desperate people with no food and no money and no protection They randomly assaulted a meaningful minority Being far away from people is the best situation in a closed setting behind a gate on a smaller cruise ship to keep the others away from you I live on a pretty large rural gated estate I fear my neighbors and the poor crazies nearby Glance through the book to decide if you want to read it I promise you it will change your view on what is happening instantly httpswwwgutenbergorgfiles376376h376hhtmhttpswwwgutenbergorgfiles376376h376hhtm A Journal of a Plague Year Daniel Defoe|0 I assume you are joking|1 I will every time I saw something interesting I collected it This is my third funny post|1 Theyre perfectly capable of instituting mass quarantines|1 Liberal conspiracy They wont let you say his name|0 I am from today selfisolating with my family due to my brother being a high risk individual I am so disgusted and angry and upset at one of my friends because she knows that my brother is high risk and she has a fever of 39 a dry cough and sore throat and she came to school and to my after school event and tried getting really close to me and she would tap me on my clothes one things for sure shes not my friend anymore because she laughed when she did it she KNEW what she was doing I feel like crying because If I pass it onto my brother now thats it hes gone|0 Fuck Reddit and fuck uspezCensoring and quarantining wrongthink has been happening on Reddit since before the 2016 US election|0 7 days I really wasnt even well enough to care for my self was delirious with fever when id get up in the morning would spend hours trying to get focused enough to get out of bed and get some fever reducer in me would spend a few hours coherent with low grade fever after taking my meds then would get tired and go to sleep and it would all repeat againI was finally admitted to the hospital with pneumonia but fever was already gone so they gave me some crazy antibiotics and sent me on my way and had me follow up in a week with a GP which is where I got the bronchitis diagnosis|0 This seems like it is the absolute definition of nightmare for the IT staff|1 I think he will not be able to say this at the same day he announces 254 dead daily like Italy is doing todayLets wait we get to 5k daily deaths so we reach maximal throughput Then we lock down|0 I dont know where they get the info that the kids died and were treated like trashHow does it benefit the CCP Can the people who are spreading these sensational rumors give a source of these claim Dont tell me none of the news organizations nor the social media have no interestActually there was was one kid died while the parent was quarantined It happened in late January in a rural village Hongan 2 hours drive from Wuhan The kid a mentally illed teenager died at home while his single dad a migrant worker was quarantined somewhere else Local official overlooked the plea from this guy to take care of the kid and the tragedy happened This soon triggered outrage on social media and the official was promptly punished Other than that there were no other similar stories exposed either on the news or on the social media|0 You cant time the market and theres no rock bottom That means that shit can get significantly worse in the following months Or it could be better Its a gamble and solid investing shouldnt be|0 Oh I see yes we have the same confusion|1 Also sick people dont think clearly People with a fever dont think clearly|0 This is what it is all about they do not want testing because high numbers will hurt Trumps economy and crash the stock market even more Its all that dude cares about he does not really care about people but just keeping the economy afloat until after the next election cycle is done|0 Im having trouble figuring out whether the touch of s refers to the last sentence or the entire post If its the latter im slightly worried for you|0 Hey man I am from MA too and in a similar boat We still have to get more supplies but otherwise I feel prepared I also feel nervous as well But weve got this We have no choice but to proceed forward Take care of yourself|1 I hope those videos are not real|1 Clearly deserves the Medal of Freedom s|1 this forum is full of perfectly sincere anecdotal stories of folks with odd flu in californiawest coastetc late decemberearly jan whole offices with it etcIt is exactly what you would expect to hear based on what we do know present in wuhan at least from late novearly dec and some studies postulate much earlier|1 I have a sinking suspicion that even after the economy implodes and hundreds of thousands are dead he will still be at 40 approval Once upon a time I thought the complete exposure of the Trump is good for stocks lie could be enough to finally get through to people but that day has past|0 If someone gets quarantined for tuberculosis it is at home If they violate that they will lock your ass up|0 Would be interesting to know when she visited Iran and which area of Canada she returned to and when she started experiencing symptoms|1 and no student loan payments for now|0 And anti vaxxers|0 I really dont know whats worse these places doing this or the majority of comments being people supporting it tagging others and making plans on which day to go|1 You know how theres memorials and all that shit to disastersNo one ever has a picture by their name You might see the occasional flower but never any picturesIn the modern day that should change No longer should we have anonymous walls of granite with nothing but a name but the faces of every single person|0 I wonder you can sue her if she gets you sick She is going to a risk zone for a stupid reason|0 More like dont push your brain so much that it lights on fire|1 Been packing bags and getting my s together since I made my last comment Stay safe|1 You can hate on me if you want but theres really no need to be so jadedJust thought people might actually benefit from listening to an unbiased medical professional If you took 2 seconds to actually check him out youd realize how silly your question is|0 No It means theyre immune systems were compromised leading to serious complications not commonly seen innotherwise healthy individuals|1 Yes coronavirus has been successfully contained within the US In other words the entire US is now a containment area|1 Sounds like a lot of speculationAny of this coming from your sister|1 AC Milan sold by Chinese owners Inter losing to JuventusJust in time|0 Im in a kinda conservative part of liberal northern California and I was called a fucking idiot bc my cart was full Not of one item but noodles and frozen foods and soups and shit No TP No soap already got those Wasnt wearing a maskTwo days ago I went on my weekly shopping with a mask and safety glasses got a lot of looks and some kids stared at me I was not called an asshole but they were out of noodlesYesterday I noticed the grocery store and bank parking lot was overflowing Shopping carts werr packed to the top and the tension was real No mac and cheese now or pasta sauce Shelves emptying Gas station lines ATM lines This is a town of 4000 people|0 Asians seem to have more Ace2receptors which are the receptors that covid19 uses However all people have ace2receptors so it is foolish to believe you are immunesourcehttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200126919985v1fullbetter sourcehttpswwwnaturecomarticless4142102001471figures1|0 I am a doc and I take HQ chronically What is your dosage like|1 Africa has a billion people and fragile health care systems I live in SA and I think the rest of Africa may be in for a hard time|1 Any source for the fact that it only protects outward not inward|1 I wish we had Ronald Reagan in the oval office at this moment|1 How about Trump trying to buy a whole German vaccine company and no doubt call it after himself Isnt that worse profiteering than hamd sanitizer guy|0 It seems like a normal Flu I hope nonetheless Its been a good ride though Appreciate your support|1 I seen it like 3 weeks ago She said this like a week after chen went into quarantine You can do the rest I cant be arsed lolChen was a 30somet year old journalist who got took into quarantine and not seen again|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Say youre wrong and take precautions Worst case in a few weeks you got some weird looks a few weeks agoSay youre right and take precautions You may have prevented infection of yourself and others and even if you do get infected it may be at a later point where more is known about it and how to combat it|0 I think the health care system has been securing quite a bit of the masks here in Norway too at least the good ones graded ffp3 Ive heard it has been sold out everywhere for a while now but I bought mine in January|1 Because down playing it is the moral response Keeping flights going to affected areas and straight up concealing facts|1 Need to implement martial law and use military now Europe is probably lost but US can still minimize this and potentially avoid a lot of deaths|0 its pretty damn cold here atmplease dont fall for the 70Fhot meme|1 Still 11000th of his wealth I have 2000 in my bank account Say I go around doing TED talks about how bad X thing is to the point that everyone knows X thing is my purpose and my hill to die on and then when X thing happens I spend 2 dollars to prevent it In this situation Im an asshole so why isnt Bill just because his number is 50m times bigger|0 I started doing it and didnt question this myself Ill let it run but would love to wake up to an answer aswell please|1 Just get a cheap shotgun or revolver and go to the gun range in the valley Its outdoor and Sunny so the virus will be diminished 200 bucks can buy a lot of piece of mind|1 I noticed that too I told my husband that they probably pumped him up with steroids and you could tell he was struggling|0 Savage lmao|1 Amen And free the falon gong the Uighurs and the stolen pets being tortured so their meat tastes better after slaughter|0 Awesome Opossum|1 Can confirm from a 3rd word country with much better testing and more intensive quarantine lol The American way is clearly not doing its job right|1 Agree my roommate is oblivious to whats going on|1 I am struggling with so much of this because of the simple lack of common sense and common decency neither is so common If you add that the American way of life is that people go to work sick because they have no option and so many who believe rules only apply to other people and then add the ineptitude of the government at every level to handle this in the US we are well and truly fucked|0 Sounds like your HR policy was written by a slippery lawyer from NY|1 So everyone is saying now people as wells as news agencies but if its an official recommendation why cant I find a single written statement by the WHO themselves neither on their official website nor a post from their Twitter account nor a post on their Facebook account I could only find news articles or posts by people and news agencies claiming that the WHO said this|1 Yeah its a 98 survival rate so far If you have mild flucold type symptoms treat it like any other flucold If you start having more serious issues like you said trouble breathing thats when its time to go clog up the hospitalI had pneumonia twice in my twenties so Im staying home as much as possible to keep it extra safe|1 So the much higher death rate of men in china isnt explained by smoking then|0 In fairness your link says about nine times as much chloroquine was required to inhibit viral reproduction in SARS The main point seems to be that you can get chloroquine working against the coronavirus at levels that are tolerable within a human being And the new in vitro study suggests that Hydrochloroquine could be effective at even lower and even safer doses Also chloroquine did work in vivo on Mice against OC43 which is also a coronavirus So that gives a little bit of proof of concept In vitro data using cell lines shows that chloroquine can inhibit COVID19 with an 50 inhibitory concentration of 1 uM implying that therapeutic levels could be achieved in humans Wang 2020 The 50 inhibitory concentration of chloroquine for SARS is closer to 9 uM suggesting that chloroquine could be more effective against COVID19 than SARS AlBari 2017|0 Response to dad can you at least make sure your will and affairs are in order when i talk to the family lawyer|1 Malzahar too good|1 Precisely This sub is just as bad as the mass media in terms of the panic that its trying to cause|0 Seems easier to use the spray wait 4 min and wipe it up|1 httpswwwelsoorgRegistrySupportDocumentsCenterIDListaspxhttpswwwelsoorgRegistrySupportDocumentsCenterIDListaspxthere are at least 289 machines in the us but some states have so many more than others this would be a good reason why so many countries are dragging their feet on testing there arent enough machines|1 I saw in walmart a whole checkout shelf full of emergency type low quality waterproof flashlightsI dont bother because I just EDC a really good one plus a good keychain light In my backpack I have a headlamp and several spare batteries At any moment I have months of backup light I do use them every day though so I guess I am always prepared|1 Because Germany just now starts testing post mortem Prior death probably attributed to the flu|0 Whos going to pay if everyones too sick to work or shop This will quickly fail and the value of the dollar will still dwindle to nothing|0 tldr These people believe nonsense that isnt in the Bible Im skeptical of their claims to be Christian|0 Its literally been less than two months since the first case in the United States and four months since the first case inside of China so no months were not lost|1 Yeah thats one of the reasons the hospitals are overwhelmed It can be several weeks or more between hospitalization and death So if someone is taking up a bed they could be there for a month or more|0 Donated lmao They came and got it out of his garage Stupid fucker didnt want to get arrested for resisting|0 Would it be reasonable that the UK will be implementing a travel ban from the EU very soon Thats the next logical step no|0 Finally something thats not terrible|1 A stunt could cost dear to a couple from Codogno in Lombardy the first outbreak of coronavirus infection the two are escaped from the red zone a few days ago to go on holiday in Trentino where they have a home Then the two felt sick and went to the emergency room in Trento where as soon as they said where they came from moreover with symptoms of cough and cold they were immediately tested then tested positive for Covid19 Now husband and wife both elderly risk reporting to Nas for moving away from a red zone We are in constant contact with the Nas so the rules must be respected If there are penalties to be imposed we will do it because this its irresponsible behavior said the governor of Trento Maurizio Fugatti The Trentino health authorities have contacted the Lombard ones to start the transfer of the couple home|1 I think the strategy has been from day one to ride this out If they found out it was bad but only for less than ten percent of the population and they knew there was 0 chance of containing it At that point is it better to let it run its course and see what happens or is it better to start testing everyone and quarantine entire states Certainly for the economy and general well being of those of us who wont get more than a mild case it makes more sense to go day by day business as usual If an area gets a bad outbreak then we can worry about treating that specific hotspot Suppress the local news so no one freaks out and try to keep your recovered numbers ahead of the body count|0 We have had 3D printers that make medical grade items for awhile now But I agree some dude at home with a printer shouldnt be doing it httpswwwfdagovmedicaldevices3dprintingmedicaldevicesmedicalapplications3dprinting|1 LMFAO|1 Wow|1 Italian docs are mostly great Some of them are complete crap due to the corruption though I have seen several in the south where I am from You ask yourself how the fuck they got the job and then you know it I suppose thats everywhere not just in Italy But with the more limited regional resources that really hurts the southETA I lived all over Europe Corruption is everywhere|0 China brought in ECMO machines which are in even shorter supply than ventilators and seem to require lots of training But you dont get the lung damage from them|0 And I suppose youre going to be the one then to support this immunosuppressed woman and her two children when she leaves her husband Shame on you for encouraging this|1 What of this is supposed to scare me|0 Im finding it humorous at this point No point in me freaking out over how dumb people are being because obviously there is no bounds to human stupidity|0 You either need to completely close the borders or not Restricting a handful might mean that people take indirect flights and dont disclose where they are coming from It would be fair to point out not everyone would reroute and come to Canada in that case but a non 0 amount would still show up The infection is already here Containment and knowledge are important too|1 Its not about profits short term Its about the long game What they done gives Altria a defacto monopoly in the vape industry when the FDA got involved|0 Vietnamese farmers brought the entire US army to a standstill with peashooters The truth is they want you to think its an unwinnable fight partly because it isnt No government wants to rain down hell on its own citizens and infrastructure Ive seen estimates that just 10 of Americans in actual rebellion would be unwinnable for the government partly because atrocities would encourage more people to fight back and quit helping the government war effort Do you really think the government would bomb Houston or plant land mines in Detroit No Theyll tell you they are too big to fight because they know theyll have too many problems to win if you try Deserters veterans and cops joining the fight after seeing or being ordered to commit atrocities international pressure sanctions loss of factories and farms pockets of militias springing up around the country attacks on power grids etc Im not saying guns are going to be necessary at this moments Im saying I refuse to give mine up because they may be necessary someday|0 You are very ill informed The entire world was made aware of the virus well before Wuhan was shutdown Many people who spread the infection knew they had the virus and decided to flee Wuhan to avoid the quarantine It led many communities in China to reject anyone from Wuhan Again the whole world knew of the virus before Wuhan was closed down|0 Very well could happen|1 Why is everyone surprised the president said that they can only test the critical ones or the highly suspicious ones meaning there are people with symptoms shopping and going along their day with the virus|0 Ive checked this through so many times and tried to use language that just sticks with percentages and explains them rather than throwing in 55 in a thousand and similar ways of expressing proportions It was suprisingly hard|0 Im so glad that everyone seems to have a reasoned view between the two We cant stick our heads in the sand but we cant go into extreme hyped up panic and say all hope is lost either|0 The One Where Joey and Rachel Are Quarantined edit holy shit if Matt lost some weight dyed his hair and met up with Jennifer this could still totally happen because they havent aged a day omg|0 Heh I bet Trump is preparing the greatest deal of all times where he intends to buy them and use them only on americans he likes|1 I agree with the vast majority of your statement yesBut alot of people are hearing the death number at 200 and saying its the end of the worldBut if the exact same people had gotten the flu instead of this virus the death number may not change much due to the health condition of the ones actually dieingWe need to see deaths outside of China to actually up the seriousness alot of China is literally cespool conditions of course you may die in that environmentIs there cause for concern certainlyIve seen people post from Canada asking if they should quit their jobs right nowI dont think those people understand that this is smaller than they think currently and if they learned 2001780 people die daily from the flu it might help put it into perspective for nowThe base of my statement is we dont know the actual kill percentage yet and its dropping everydayThis could end up closer to a 11000 kill rate than people think8k people roughly sample size right now these could have been a majority of street bums who eat out if trashcans We dont know yetBut yes if the kill rate stays high it will be a legit global emergency but it is dropping daily and we cannot test all of the sick the true number of sick could already be in the 100000s and if thats the case the kill rate isnt severeWe simply cant test enough people fast enough showing it spreads fairly rapidly So its a high unknown infection number and a fairly accurate death number lower kill than people think|0 We should all be There isnt anything good about manufacturing in China They were poor before the US did a deal with them and they can be poor after everyone finds somewhere else to make productsTheyve accepted the CCP Doesnt mean we have to|0 Whats interesting is that South Korea is testing like crazy I think they have tested over 100k people and thats why they have so many cases However the majority of them have minor symptoms and their fatality rate is around 6|0 So last week I was freaking out about this hard But the gigantic study out of China has made me feel a little bit better about it The fatality rate for people under 40 is 02 apparently if youre young and healthy you actually will probably be fineHow old are your parents and grandparents aunts and uncles etc Are they totally healthy If thats the case then by far the bigger fear is social unrest If the virus is a oneinfive death sentence then thats extremely bad If the virus is a onein500 death sentence then suddenly the breakdown of civil society economy logistics etc is much scarier Well apparently I will be dead by then So you young whippersnappers have fun with that|0 Except mail voting allows for its own voter suppression because the idea that only you can know who you voted for doesnt hold true eg a spouse can force you to vote a certain way threaten you It is much more open to attacks in general|0 This is precisely the mindset that gets these people to the top But youre right of course|1 WaitTWO WEEKS How on Earth is it going to take two more weeks I COULD FLY TO SOUTH KOREA AND LEARN TO DRIVE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND HIT UP THEIR DRIVE THROUGH before getting tested in my own damn country|0 I wouldnt touch anything in DB even on a good day gross|0 Yeah that escalated quickly Pence killed someone with a Tridents cuz duh|0 This has been posted twice in a different subreddit and this account is only one day old It is a very touching story but I doubt this is an actual firsthand account This is a tactic used by healthcare administrators to guilt trip nurses Of course no nurse would want to abandon their patients but we are people too Nursing homes are especially Ill equipped to deal with emergent situations Putting one on lockdown with the staff would only ensure an outbreak and many deaths|0 Yeah someone posted this picturehttpimgurcomgallery6w1DFVa of a sweet old lady trying to find supplies after the panicked mobs cleared everything out and I instantly felt extemely guilty and also like a huge piece of shit And I didnt even participate in the panic hoarding I just felt so sad for these people and feel bad for being part of the society that does this to them My neighbors and I have been posting on NextDoor offering to help the elderly in any way we can but nobody has come forward so far I just hope these folks know there are people willing to help them even if we dont know them|1 Over here in The Netherlands testing is limited to certain groups and areas because of shortage of testing kits Its not just you its us as well|1 Why is there blood behind the girls head Im skeptical of the legitimacy of this photo|0 Good news I guessThough our numbers are sounding less realistic than the CCP numbers|1 Youre assuming an alert and aware squad of highly trained people Im assuming a surprise visit likely at 6 AM on a house with 1 trained and unaffected person Not sure how youre going to have 247 sentries and 4 healthy shooters despite having symptomatic carriers in the facility|1 If we continue to trace similarly and people continue to infect others similarly One would hope that the tracing methodology would improve all sorts of barriers will have been overcome cultural resistance language information from carriers as in airlinesBut That all changes with the increase in sampling that has been approved and the bringing in of NHS personnel who will no doubt do things slightly differently|1 Ah sounds like the virus kinda burned itself out so it was easier to catch people if they got it|1 Cats are obligate carnivores I havent eaten meat for years but hed starve without it|0 Updoot for pie Pepperoni please|1 What if youve lost your job or got a new job|0 all companies are all about profits|1 what a read just wow|1 Nice|1 Solid reference|1 Random fevers are actually not super uncommon for me I get them at least a few times a school year Im just praying its another random fever and that it will blow over Praying for you too im sure well both make it out of this just fine |1 The problem is not food standards Actually there were just rich people could afford the expensive wild animals For example the price of snake is three times over the beef These people are rich and old 50years old with low education For the young people in china with average 12 year education they dont like that They think eating wild animals is dirty and useless But the ban of wild animals trades has been put into practice you dont need to worry about it anymore|0 I dont disagree its still possible In fact I really really really hope thats the case I dont think they tested everyone on the ship and that was a lost opportunity maybe we will get some more data from South Korea soon|1 I already have welding oxygen and a regulator and recently ordered a mask and cannula just in case It was cheap why not You can get a regulator like thishttpswwwwilliamsbrewingcomOxygenRegulatorForWeldingTankP3476aspxAdd a mask or cannula and set the right flow rate Guidance here and there are many other resources if you look aroundhttpswwwrtmagazinecomproductstreatmentmonitoringtreatmenttherapydevicesoxygenadministrationbestchoiceAdd an oximeter to monitor spO2 too They are inexpensive A small welding cylinder might only give you 20 minutes of supplemental O2 Depends on the rate Needless to say if youre desperate enough to use welding oxygen you need fast help anyway I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice This is apocalypse talk for entertainment purposes only|1 Youre not the only one but its the realistic path The genie is out of the bottle the virus is everywhere and its not going away You can lockdown a country keep everyone indoors until the virus is gone But then if someone from another country reintroduces the virus in the country you can start all over againKeeping people locked up in their homes for maybe over a year is just not going to work in Western countries A controlled outbreak with additional efforts to protect the most vulnerable groups in society is most likely just the best we can achieve|1 Stop cruising|0 Luxembourg is in a tough spot If we would close our borders 70 of hospital staff wont enter the country anymore since we are highly dependable on foreigners in a lot of sectors|0 Here in Spain all they are doing is say we are ready and otherwise not giving a flying f People here still think this is no worse than a bad flu|0 Exactly California was on high alert this whole time due to the number of travelers from Wuhan|1 He cant even spell the word flu right|0 Its hard to say when it will be ready but we still dont have a 100 effective vacene for even the flu and I wouldnt be surprised if it mutated before we could catch up It might just be a new disease that the world would learn how to cope with like the flu or other things Not the best answer but its very likely|0 Another piece of fake news that got so many upvotes just because its about China First of all passport control is carried out everywhere and especially at a time point like this the officers at the border will look over your passport twice if you look Asian On top the article itself read just as fake as it gets No real names no source The discrimination against Chinese is real|0 P5R please|1 I truly hope so otherwise we are completely screwed|1 Do you have a source for this info by chanceIm trying to get my loved ones to take this seriously and this is great info|1 Agree This is probably the thing that will persuade the government to change tack They havent thought through that we will become an international pariah social economic outcasts|1 Curious what are you asking your friends and family to do that they havent been|1 Bro bodies donated to my university were often left to decompose inside body sized coolboxes Some of these leaked every now and then and the entire medicine faculty would stink like roadkill for days|0 httpswwwgoogleorgourworkcrisisresponseThey ARE monitoring other pandemics ebola and zika and natural disasters through so maybe we will hear more from them as this progresses|0 Thanks for pointing that out I messaged everyone reminded them theres literally nothing open in Seattle right now and they all cancelled Now Im blocked off until June|0 This is the problem Nobody is steering the ship because they think their god will do it|0 Bankruptcy has been reformed to screw over regular people|0 If you have an n95 and arent infected you should donate it to a hospital The infected need them so they dont spread it to the nurses Youll save many more lives that way|1 My question is how China stopped the spread of Corona outside of WuhanHubei to other areas of China Or at least stopped it from becoming a pandemic in other areas|0 Hugely Total respect for what they have created|1 The prisoners got access to the medical supplies methodone apparently|0 I just cant put any faith in what the Philippines is reporting My Filipino mother in law lives there subic bay area over half the year Shes there now and getting very nervous She told me its to expensive to change her return flight at the end of March I told her in a month she might not be able to fly home Sent her an extra 150 usd to stock up for the long haul|0 Safety should be the priority |1 lol|1 Youre too right Ive heard the same point about China made before also on The Daily in older episodes since Dr Li died Riveting episode I often forget that not so small detail Everything is heavily controlled down to hashtags allowed to trend on their social media|0 Some nurses are reporting that the CDC is refusing to release testing kits to patients without travel history Tramp says anyone who needs a test can get one but its a flat out lie|0 Youre getting downvoted because youre missing the pointA voluntary system of isolation is not quarantined by authorities The latter is what is happening in China right now to entire cities|0 Wtf is up with schools not closing Mexico is handling the crisis in countless stupid ways and even we closed schools when known cases were around 60|0 This is concerning could it be that the virus mutated to become deadlier Or is it the lack of understanding by the Italian community|0 Dealing with the deceased aside youll have to be in contact with the closest family contacts of the deceased That is what is most worrisome|0 Im an older student in college Ive heard instructors and students repeat this the flu is worse crap People are dangerously misinformed and proudly so and now even regular Joes are displaying antivaxxerlike symptoms|0 That sucks best to you lots of liquids|1 Not at all Just stating the complexity of it PRC would throw a fit about them separating too|1 this has nothing to do with the story and its not like china is the only country where some of its citizens treat each other like shit|0 I will feel a lot better once weve passed the twoweek mark Ill feel even better when we pass the 21 day mark|1 Not only its true its from almost a week ago so its even worse now|0 Youre not wrong Im just suggesting a possible reason|1 Lol actually they just decided to shut down until the end of AprilEdit closed to the public until April 13th Was originally April 30th but the memo was recently edited|1 Soon it will be NO boomer|0 Korea tested 240k people already with an average of 1517k per day And it has a different administration now not one led by a crazy corrupt woman like last time Good try though|1 The dog died But the dog never had antibodies against coronavirus WTF did they do to ithttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200318hongkongdogtestedforcoronavirusdiesafterquarantine|0 You dont have to work for homeland security to see this coming If youve paid any attention to news and stats about the US healthcare system and the health of our population over the last 20 years you know that weve been on the brink of or possibly the early stages of a healthcare crisis for a while now Heres my own prognosticationThe 10 day estimate and the sweeping generalization is a bit suspect 10 days for Washington perhaps but a few weeks for the heartland as it sweeps in from the coasts|0 I noticed a lot of people in a decluttering group on FB make the same comments along with the fantastic well it will only be serious for elderly and immunecompromised people like whaa|1 In a world filled with healthy people |1 Well Italy just suspended all mortgage payments and other countries have made internet and other utilities free hopefully this is what will happen everywhere|1 She works at at a title I school and the attitude of staff seems to be 2030 years behind when it comes to technology Oddly we live 1 county away which is pretty up to date and much better schools I try to get her to switch districts but she is so afraid of losing her job she wont do it|0 Can never trust the Chinese government for factual information|0 my order for replacement cartridges was just cancelled due to lack of stock or maybe the seller just wants to up the price managed to get a couple in the local screwfix glad i bought resperatrs for my entire family now they are running out fast|0 People who lick fingers to turn pages always grossed me out I know page turning is bothersome at times Its not a healthy habits Especially if you partake in digging for gold in your nostrils|0 TranslationCoronavirus Five new confirmed cases 17 in total in AlgeriaBy AE Drafting 04 March 202020 23Five 05 new cases of Coronavirus Covid19 were confirmed Wednesday evening in Algeria bringing to 17 the number of people infected with the virus in the country announced the Ministry of Health Population and Hospital reformThese new cases were registered in the same family to reach a total of seventeen 17 confirmed cases said the ministry in a statement adding that the epidemiological investigation is continuing to find and identify all the people who were in contact with the Algerian national and his daughter both living in France As a reminder the first two people a 53yearold woman and her 24yearold daughter healthy carriers were confirmed positive for coronavirus last Sunday by the National Reference Laboratory of the Institut Pasteur in AlgeriaThe surveillance and alert system set up and reinforced regularly to respond to the evolution of the epidemiological situation of the coronavirus has made it possible to trace the journey of an 83yearold Algerian and his daughter residing in France having stayed in Algeria from February 14 to 21 2020 in their family in Blida and who were confirmed positive for the coronavirus after their return to France on February 21 2020The Ministry of Health says that the monitoring and alert system in place remains in force and the mobilization of health teams remains at its highest level concludes the press release|1 Do flats not have a front doorIf I lived in flats Id feel guilty about dragging the poor guy up all those stairs with my shoppingProbably no parking for his van either Poor sod|0 Though out the chaos there is still those that can make anyone smile Thanks XD|1 Well see I suppose|1 The way the mayor of St Louis in 1918 handled it was pretty on point he really put his foot down on mandatory quarantine when he heard about how bad the infection rate was in other cities and areas Dude got shunned because everyone thought he was overreacting for his own townspeople lol|1 Okay so we voted Cool my fucking mortgage is still due and look at that Policy didnt change instantly and my toddlers are still going to wind up homeless|1 I heard that in Italy some millennials were hoping to intentionally spread it Pretty sure you just took a joke too seriously|1 You actually made me laugh thank you |1 The bill passed by the House today includes free testing|1 What does declaring a national emergency trigger Loosening medical restrictions|0 Earlier on February 9 in a paper completed by a number of experts such as Zhong Nanshan an expert of the Health Committee of the Communist Party of China oxygen inhalation was used as the current main therapy However Liu Liang told Lu Media after completing the dissection that clinically it is necessary to dilute or dissolve the mucus to keep the airway open If the mucus components are not resolved simply using oxygen may not achieve the purpose and sometimes Counterproductive Because oxygen may push the mucus deeper and wider and it will worsen the patients hypoxia|0 Yeah im okay with that Ill bring some toilet paper and hand sanitizer whilst we wait for the inevitable|1 Idk Party City is pretty adamant about staying open|1 Confirmation bias at its finest|0 Care to reference your statements|1 Search is also an option though not as reliable I agree the reposts are getting out of hand Multiple within the hour even|1 Earlier is showed 165000 infected That was what I was referring to|0 I live in the FFC What you say may be true of metro stations the Bund and places like Xintiandi but it is not remotely true of the average street Even on a relatively busy thoroughfare near me Zhaojiabang theres no police presence aside from perhaps during rush hours|1 What is laughable about correcting a vitamin deficiency to you|1 Id say when it kills a politician or celebrity then theyll sit up and take notice|0 thanks regular people on the street dont need those if they knew how to properly wear normal masks i learned to wear the annoying ones that you have to tie around your ears and neck theyd be all set|1 Too late to try and say its serious now youve been downplaying it for weeks the public thinks the virus is a meme at this point|0 This is fear mongering Dont fear monger|0 Hello good initiativeWith all the numbers and data collected about all the new cases is it possible to predict a probable date for the end of Covid19 If so when do you predict the end of Covid 19Sorry for my bad EnglishThank you and I hope your research will lead to something positive for the cure end of this nasty thingy|1 The value of life under Communism folks Train the majority of your life to help others Put yourself in extreme danger to clean up your governments supreme malfeasance Get paid out 13 of a months mortgage for losing the primary breadwinner of your family I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if treatment and disposal fees are deducted andor disbursements will be suspended due to the state of emergency|1 Ooh my bad misunderstood I tend to jump the gun when it comes to talking about private schools still harbor a grudge from my personal experience lol|0 I wish I lived in Utah|1 Basketball players are worth more money But they wont be worth jack when all the games are cancelled|1 Was Trump supposed to tell us to run for the hills He cant do shit against a fast moving virus except buy people enough time before the real panic sets Appointing the worlds greatest doctor would not have stopped this virus moving throughout the US which it already has been for weeks Im not shaken or confused its what I expected|1 Latinos are ahead of y all just tilt your head backward respect and coolness in good enough distance|1 his right eye is bloodshot as shit|0 And why do they continue to discourage masks when they help prevent the spread of droplets from asymptomatic infected people Even home made ones help|0 Im active in conservative spheres on FB and Twitter also a former Trump supporter no one actually believe this this is basically based off of an MSMliberal lie about something Trump said at a rally|1 CDC is a joke|1 Thank you for an onpoint post where the description actually matches whats in the articleSolid information like this is just what we need not fearmongeringI regret that I have but one upvote to giveKeep up the good work OP|1 Absolutely Everyone should be helping out any way that they can|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Dont waste your time trying to convince these people and wasting your energy Keep your mouth shut now go out and prepare your supplies and watch You can exhaust yourselves trying to tell those around you that this is happening prepare for you and your family and say no more|0 If they close employees can be laid off and EI kicks in Sick leave doesnt come into the picture in closures|0 This is doomsday not just for ChinaIf the factories of almost everything everyone uses stop working its basically doomsday for almost everyone|0 Lt Dan was from a long great military tradition someone in his family had fought and died in every single American Chinese War|0 But your death rate is way off or do you think that 30k deaths are happening in the next week or two|0 lol Thanks I need that laugh|1 I had the same conversation at my work yesterday Although someone basically said if you get sick its your fault and everyone else around agreed I feel like Im going crazy|0 Thats good to hear In nyc schools will be open until the hospitals are overrun|1 Well to be fair its unknown how he got infected And looking at the timeline its quite possible she infected him making her the unknown transmission Either way there are people in Japan getting infected via community transmission|0 Keep in mind that many of those active cases will end up in deathIn my opinion a better point of view would be calculating the percentage of outcomes as in recovered vs dead Then we will have a better picture of the mortality per detected case To be fair I dont think we have all the numbers to make a really accurate estimate|1 Just Charles Darwin coming for the business owners who exploit the workers by forcing them to work sick|0 Good news is localOn globalnational scale theres not really any good news|1 They were videos posted from journalists I trust what I saw|1 Not true 2 days ago it was up to 24 Likely higher but not high enough now httpswwwtodaycomfoodwhichstateshaveclosedrestaurantsbarsduecoronavirust176039 Also many counties or municipalities have as well|1 There still a lot of people that go up to Maine from Massachusetts so I doubt they will be missing out on all the fun for long|0 Herd immunity is not optional its inevitable Lol|1 Chill out bro its JuST LikE ThE FLu11But yeah seriously this thing is not a joke and should not be taken lightly or minimized I DARE anyone to tell this woman or anyone in similar situations that this shit is just like the flu Its not|0 Yeah but its America And hes a preacher|1 During the 1918 flu philly had huge casualties because they had a parade like dumbasses and they stopped helping each other People died that didnt have to because no one was checking on them Id like to think wed learn from that but were having a fucking parade next weekend so maybe not|0 Huh that seems confusing but their supply chain was always pretty strange I helped launch Prime Now and they were designated distribution centers for example the city I was in had both a regular Amazon warehouse and a specific Prime Now warehouse that had food and also random stuff like TVs and lawnmowers So some of the stuff was regular products that would be stocked in a normal warehouse but the distribution center was set up to be able to pull the orders in 15 minutes or less and hand them off to one of the couriers The people doing the deliveries were more like Uber except they would wait outside the warehouse to pick up orders We also had deliveries from Whole Foods as well as a handful of local stores but they worked a little differently The people who shopped for the products were Amazon employees we would just hang out at the store and wait for orders to come in I loved those shifts because sometimes you would only get like 2 orders in a shift The drivers were the same people as the ones that delivered from the distribution center|1 US Robotics was the shit I remember I had the 56k version and almost always connected at full speed compared to the other brands|1 Why does it need to go further than this He seems like some dumb kid who thought hed make a quick buck not some malicious criminal mastermind He has to donate his stock piles and is being made a mockery all over the internet Id say the example has been made relax|1 maybe not though people have had it detected in their system well after 18 days|1 Any good donor service will not take donations from anyone appearing to have covid 19 or been around someone who has So its important that those who dont fit into those 2 categories do donate to make up for it|1 Hey thanks for the information I apologize for my vague prior statement I was referring to without excuse absentee ballot voting|1 You might get stabbed at least 6 times|0 How about trying to work together I didnt mean to offend you I didThe right is seriously brain damaged Complete lack of self awareness|0 Lol where do you live Sure as shit isnt the US|1 Figure 1 shows a plot of cases by symptom onset date which shows a peak in late January just days after movement restrictions were put in place in Wuhan and other cities in Hubei Theres an unexplained spike on February 1st which Im going to assume is a recordkeeping issue from incomplete dates or some such there may be a similar spike on January 1st as well but its harder to see because the numbers are much smaller|1 2nd death A woman on northern Italy Lodi httpswwwrepubblicaitcronaca20200222newscoronavirusinitaliai19sbarcatidalladiamondprincessingiappone249225700|0 Kung flu is the correct term|0 We still have a chance we just need to gather data and upload it and spread the word|1 More like unlike yall he isnt so blinded by his privilege that he understands the role the school has in the lives of hundreds of thousands of poor kids only meal distance from home etc Its prolly easy to close whatever private school you went to Harder for the kids in the south Bronx who really rely on their schools|1 Who knowsgot to work and feed our family But at least we wear mask and have free test and treatment|1 Its a new virus no one has a natural immunity to it This 34 is the kill rate currently with modern science modern healthcare This is a low calculation in my opinion but its official and still scary If we lost 34 of people that would kill 272 million people if everyone caught it|0 Yes it seemed as if theyre trying to hide all of the possible community transfer cases I mean what happened to the guy that attended the mining conference Details on how he got infected is still pending |0 The more serious party members we met there were the most snivelly snivelling people Ive ever met They are normal people enforcing evil pure and simple Heres an exampleThis chubby fatboy lorded over our round table until his boss showed The guy had such airs of I dont even know what to call it Then his boss showed up took that chair and the other guy was number two As number two he was completely obsequious Like two different people Such visble snivelling|1 Thank god it wasnt Taco Bell I dont know about you guys but that gives me all the Coronavirus symptoms|1 I laughed way to hard at that|1 Easy to make anything free if it is nonexistent right|1 The death rate is for sure smaller young individuals dont have a lot to worry But I am very concerned for my old relatives with chronic conditions I have asked them to lock themselves up|0 Ah gotcha with atleast my pill it supresses my immune system which you know Obviously makes me better at fighting with an already compromised system|1 Good luck Im also on a mild cough and some other light symptoms after being in Venice Padua and a couple of small villages in the area too No fever yet luckily Dutch CDC has decided not to test me yet as I have got no fever|1 I use a UVC light to clean my phone keys glasses etc And hand sanitizer when Im out|1 I have been isolated at home for 55daysanybody in Wuhan be the same Its becauseif anybody Contagious with no symptom go outside when lockdown is offhe will get tremendous person infected againthen lockdown will be reloadso we should end up lockdown 14daysafter when theres no new confirmed one|0 Nowhere did he say anything about Bernie He did say that human lives are more important than some stock points|1 If its going for anybody its going for Trump hes at like four encounters with people who have it and somehow dodged it|1 My friend in London told me last week that he was afraid to wear mask after the news where Asian men attacked by bullies|1 And pay for his food and lodging hell nawThey execute people if you are jailed for life might as well kill you anyway They are very reserve about their resources|0 Im guessing you live in a deep red state Sorry|0 I wonder how the other plagues compare at their respective beginnings And I want to see an update in a year|1 As a cashier in a state neighboring a state with 2 confirmed cases Not much increase of panic buying More sick people buying sanitizer stuff Were all out of hand sanitizer and got an alert for a nation wide shortage of it I expect that to change when we get a confirmed case|0 We could get caught in this loop all day I do agree with you that it would be great if they could be shut How will the average person pay their bills We will lose doctors and nurses that we need on the frontline now because they have nobody to have their children The government needs to provide a safety net so people have bills taken care of deferred even would be great Childcare needs to be provided for the children of all doctors and nurses|1 Can you link the study on the SARS 2003 outbreak Thank you eyeopening info|1 Im from the UK No we are not The only people being tested as of Friday are people already hospitalised The current advice is to self isolate at home for 7 days if you have symptoms but they wont test We are so completely fucked|0 Germany has 240 cases and 0 deaths The USA has 128 cases and 9 deathsThe difference Germany is not afraid of testing which leads to early identification and treatment which leads to the best possible outcomeTrump Pence and Azar will kill a lot more people with their testing cowardice|0 scientists are amazing|1 Is it much harder to travel to North Korea Could it be one of the 90 countries that do not have it There is no way to tell but just curious|1 Im really happy China is doing this I hope they can keep advancing the cure and get Italy out of this hellish situation I heard they have also massively cracked down on trading of wildlife market since corona virus I hope they can finally ban this whole dumb market Its tailored mostly to superstitious rich chinese people anyways|1 Eh governors are only declaring states of emergency so they can free up some extra dollars The willful ignorance remains strong|1 He was initially healthy with no preexisting medical conditions In an interview with his family they discuss this|1 Summer holidays 6 weeks What usually happens|1 And the current American president isnt a communist sympathizer My God hes been laundering the regimes money for years|1 I own a small business literally one employee and he just had to take an ambulance to the ER for something nonCOVID related We dont have the money to pay him for more than 4 days without cash flow coming in We were basically making enough money to keep the shop running and pay him If his stay is longer than a few days we might legitimately go under costing him his job and my business At this point I really just feel horrible that I cant give him more during this time Im worried for his health not only for what sent him to the ER but also for fear of him potentially being exposed to COVID in the hospital If this costs him his job Ill be heartbroken Couldnt care less about the business at this point this just really fucking blows|0 His main point is that financial outlooks should take into account the results of the quarantine Hes saying that if the outcome of the disease is worse than Beijing predicts then the markets are not prepared for it|0 Im in the same situation My daughter brings everything home she had gotten pneumonia and I suspect I got it too but it was caught early We were sick for most of December and now she is sick again Ive had more strep throat in the past 3 years then Ive had in all my life Kids are grubby little germ balls|0 Great explanation thanks so muchSomething which piqued my interest was the media reporting faulty test kits had been sent out by the CDC example media reporthttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthusaidUSKBN2062HT Do you know what components were at fault|1 One employee had a fever this afternoon and I have a sore throat tonight|0 I have struggled with severe anxiety my whole life and any time its over some physical malady I will start to manifest psychosomatic symptoms that mirror the actual symptoms This has cost me thousands in unnecessary doctor visits until I decided to just recognize theyre probably not real unless things get more serious productive coughs fever etc in this case just isolate yourself and try and stay calm|0 Masks work for people already ill to limit spread but are not generally effective for prevention purposes This was always the message|0 damn Im in LA|0 Beaches are not shut here either though Dollymount was jammers yesterday I was there myself I didnt think that simply being outside was any risk Its not like youre touching anyone at the beach|0 Every single one of Italys 50 deaths has been someone over 63 years old for what its worth|1 Nature is whats killing us too|0 I think people are beginning to come around My husband denied a business loan today because of it and thats basically a klaxon shouting about danger in his world|0 You can live on Beans and rice for a Loong timeIf you can fond beans and rice I get groceries every two weeks and yesterday was my shopping day Knowing that there may be a total shutdown of all nonessential jobs I figured Id stock up on that Completely empty|1 Yes and genetic analysis says its been circulating for 6 weeks|1 Fuck that cancel the marathon you idiots|0 Ive seen it happen too On the flip side I teach 11 year olds and one of them the kind of kid whos always messing with paper and scissors and building something started making masks out of paper for all of his friends a few days before all schools were closed|1 Yep plane engine failed Now we each just hope our personal chute does its job|1 This is something a lot of people arent realizing I personally believe this outbreak started in late November or early December and all of the models on reddit start in late January when the cases were already in the thousands or tens of thousands but only official numbers were being shown The official numbers are just now starting to catch up to the real numbers Hopefully this goes away with heat in the spring time|1 Well they had better take diarrhea off the menu then|1 Tell that to the people upvoting the our governments are doing a good job thread|1 Grocery employees are heroes in my book Thank you so much many of us think the world of you and appreciate you deeply|1 50 people is the lowest restriction Ive seen so far others are mostly around 250Why dont they just limit gatherings to more than 1 Surely that will solve the problem|0 2 weeks was the longest incubation period from what Ive read the average is like 58 days|1 To be fair a financial breakdown could lead to a pretty nightmarish scenario of suffering as well If people cant transact or reliably trade its hard to get food on the shelves Agree with your sentiment though The response from the top of the US government is full retard thus far|1 Quite surprised by the low UAE numbers Are they underreporting undertesting or were they able to block Iranian citizens entering UAE early on|0 I think it was because of a cytokine storm that is basically the immune nuclear button which activates a large portion of the immune system in a nonspecific nonefficient and damaging way Those with stronger immune systems tend to be hit harder|1 It looks like this projection is off from the actual number of confirmed cases over the week but that might be due to delays in getting test kits distributed|1 And stay home or 6 feet away from everyone Best to stay home|1 Are you suggesting that its not infecting young people in Italy or that its not infecting old people in South KoreaThe only way to get THAT amount of variance on the mortality rate is for one to include a lot more mild cases Either its because more people are getting the mild version or because theyre testing more people We know that South Korea is testing a lot more people than Italy is and has been more proactive about it for a longer periodIts far more reasonable to associate the difference in derived mortality rate with the known testing behavior rather than the speculative virus behavior|1 today I learned woman are allowed to play soccer in Iran|1 I watched the Senate briefing with US Homeland Security from Thursday and Ken Cuccinille said that it was up to local and state laws to regulate order and containment upon their own people So basically the decision of the States themselvesYet the states health organzations are allowed presumptive positive cases which arent considered confirmed until they are confirmed by the CDC I am not sure why this occurs or if its based in any logistical practicality at all besides dont panic|1 Because they cannot do anything if theyre chained to a post by a President who cares a bit too much about the markets|1 And If you dont do anything then dont pretend its an emergency|0 Tell that to the 30 year old in MN thats in critical conditionhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwfox9comnewsminnesotaconfirms3rdcoronaviruscasepersonintheir30sincriticalconditionamp|0 Good luck spending that 300 Trump is never going to let you off that ship He is still pissed that they let passengers off the last ship|1 Alabama Mobile Bay area here N95 masks have been out of stock for a few weeks on the Eastern Shore I bought mine when the CDC was still RECOMMENDING N95 masks over surgical masks It has been difficult to near impossible to find hand sanitizer for about a week now Zinc cough drops are difficult to find too but I havent checked in the past couple of days to see if the Walmarts have restocked Clorox and disinfectant wipesspray are kind of getting low but are still available Besides that there seems to be plenty of TP nitrile gloves vitamins EmergenC Rice beans oats etc For the most part people arent really taking this virus seriously even though a dude died not an hour down the road in the Pensacola area Additionally between Mardi Gras and Spring Break there has been a lot of travel through this area the past 3 weeks Regardless Id bet money youd be mocked by the majority of folks around here if they knew you were preparing for some type of quarantine which means the Mobile area will probably be under some sort of quarantine before long|0 I was wondering if theres aclass action against Life Care Center in Wash state|1 And have skillsexperience that an employer in the EU cannot find in their own 480 million citizens with a lot of EU countries having free university|1 Why not just prosecute him|1 I dont understand where this belief is coming from Im not right wing none of my family or friends are None of my coworkers are as far as I know We ALL hate how our government is handling this Could you tell me what our government is doing exactly Because I dont see them taking any kind of measures at all In what way are they handling this Please enlighten me|1 Better than starving to death and being homeless|0 Ffs they are repeating the same mistakes from the 1918 Influenza Epidemic At what point will cities or states start to take their own measures to prevent a pandemic|0 You mean at the zoo or San DiegoZoo has a brewery restaurant not bad But San Diego has old Town Gas Lamp district with awesome food Not sure how old or young you are but Gas Lamp is where its at but its also the touristy part of town prepare to pay 40 to park and a small fortune for meals|1 The numbers should not cause us to panic It is expected to get higher the more people are tested I rather people knew they have it so they can isolate themselves than leave them guessing while infecting everyone around them And shutting down NYC although I am in favor of that too it is not an easy decision to make But I believe they are running out of time if they want to flatten that curve they have to decide very soon Well its kinda late but better late than do nothing and go straight to absolute chaos|0 As a community like thishttpswwwhongkongfpcom20200312coronaviruswearfacemasks I have no proof on hand but I believe the more people wearing masks together the more effective it is to stop airborne diseases|1 How many cases does Isreal have They seem like the one country handling this appropriately|1 That hasnt happened anywhere with the virus yet however your message still rings true|1 And tomorrow there will be 997 official dead|0 That sucks Go to work stay safe go home and dont get back out until work tomorrow|1 Check your opening death rate statement Could be misleading|0 Personally I think plans should be put in place to use schools as hospitalsWe know that there arent enough beds However schools are everywhere and if they arent perfect for flu victims how about using them for all the other illnessesbroken boneshigh blood pressure etc things that people suffer from Thus leaving hospitals for only the infected or those suspected of being sickAnd how about putting Corona on same level as the damn Wall The Wall however one feels about it is not going to kill us or the economy Ugh too early to be pissed in the morning Everyone have a good and safe day|0 whats the difference if you see more numbers on your screen how does it help in both cases the plan of action is the same isolation there is no cure if one gets seriously sick hospitals take care of them best they can regardless of the reasons if its mild case you are sent home to self quarantine wash your hands and stay put|1 Yes This is the genius of our government|1 Once again just dropping by to remind people that our inept government was still auctioning off pallets of N95 respirators on February 29th I hope someday someone is held responsible for all these colossal screw ups httpsgsaauctionsgovgsaauctionsaucdsclnksl71QSCI20292041httpsgsaauctionsgovgsaauctionsaucdsclnksl71QSCI20292041|1 TalaPark is correct Unfortunately there will always be people who believe in conspiracy theory and viewing everything about China in ideological lens There is no reason to doubt the stats from China WHO has been there and there are already a number of WHO and Chinese partnered studies being published Wuhan has 11M people You just cant make tens of thousands of people disappeared without being found out because they have friends and relatives from other places They have traces online they are workers in other cities etc Misguided people need to put down the bias and see factsItaly got it really bad because the lock down happened very late and also very disorganized Lodi is now almost cleared with very few new cases but Bergamo is still reeling They are only 1 hour apart Why Lodi which has only 50k population initiated the lock down when the first patient showed up with no traceable link If one looks at the Italian stats 748 cases age 51 and above 372 cases age above 70 Hospitals were over run resulting in avoidable deaths Testings should have been more extensive and lockdown should have come earlier Actually if enough testings and contact tracing were performed there wont even be a need for national lockdown ie South Korea Taiwan HK SingaporehttpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinoInfografica17marzo20ITApdfhttpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinoInfografica17marzo20ITApdf|0 I am buddy Doesnt make you any less of an insensitive person This sub was never meant to entertain Many of us used it along with other subs it to be informed and to be able to discuss the virus Your asking for creative conspiracies if you dont see how that is wrong then there is no point to discussing with you further|0 How does modeling proteins help with a vaccine|1 TranslationThe first case of Covid19 is confirmed in LatviaPhilip LastovskisOn Monday March 2 the first case of the new coronavirus disease Covid19 was confirmed in Latvia according to the Ministry of Health and the Center for Disease Prevention and Control SPKCA Covid19 patient suffering from a new coronavirus returned from Munich to Riga on board flight BT226 of the Latvian national airline airBaltic arriving in the capital at 1755 The Center for Disease Prevention and Control SPCC has a complete passenger list so all people considered to be close contacts are already in contactPassengers on a particular flight can contact the SPKC by calling 67081508 67501590 or 27802228 the Delfi portal has learned from the Ministry of HealthThe portal Delfi will offer a live video broadcast of the press event where responsible persons were informed of the way forwardBy March 2 a total of 114 patients had been examined Previous investigations into suspected new coronavirus have already reported negative resultsThe World Health Organization WHO has named the disease that causes the new coronavirus It is called Covid19 The new name is made up of the words corona virus and disease The number 19 on the other hand refers to the year in which the outbreak began The first news of the virus outbreak came on December 31 last yearAs a reminder the coronavirus itself is nothing new it is a known group of viruses found in both animals and humans However a new type of coronavirus SARSCoV2 was identified last fall Covid19 is a disease caused by this virus Previously serious cases have been caused by SARS coronavirus or SARSCoV which is naturally reservoir for civet cats and possibly bats and MERS coronavirus which is naturally reservoir of monocotyledonous camels The source reservoir of Covid19 infection is not yet known|0 You cant trace an asymptomatic pt who never gets sick and spits your direction as you pass on the street|1 Do you have a reference for those fatality rates|0 Were getting married on Saturday but our venue wont cancel Our government has said no social gatherings but the venue is claiming a wedding is a private event with 100 guests Insurance wont pay out unless venue cancels We are being held hostage by the venue|0 Works fine for me|1 Its funny how so many Canadians love Timmies and the whole idea of it being this Canadian tradition to go there but Ive never met anyone that thinks their food or coffee is more than just average|1 you need to speak to a mental health professional That is totally irrational and ridiculous So is the virus activating after dormancy the specific virus may be new but the family of viruses that it is from is not in any way new and we know and have a lot of information on them Its just a natural ocurrence weak people will die from a cold so they will from a respiratory illness as well Get well|0 Family member works in the events industry conferences festivals etc Job literally revolves around large groups of people gathering together All planned jobs have been cancelled for the foreseeable future Desperately looking for a plan B|0 Lots of conspiracy theories on this thread but most likely this is because the US health care system is fragmented Thousands of different organizations companies States and agencies Its really hard to coordinate and theres a vacuum of leadership at the top to fix it|1 Jesus Fuck WowThere goes our family Sundays Weve been doing this for yearsThis is uncharted waters economically and socially Were all intertwined so much Its going to take years to fix this shitScrew government and these wealthy selfish pricks Fuck em allEdit Sundays are nice to have family over Eat and talkEdit Dr Mario Party at my place after this mess is over|0 1 Nobody is forcing billionaires to do business in the United States They do it because the economy is enormous Not because they love this country I would argue billionaires lobbying for public subsidies that they could easily pay for themselves is stealing2 The government is ill prepared because the government slashed taxes and specifically cut fundingended programs to deal with this kind of thing Some politicians are absolutely corrupt However they just cash the checks The people signing them are just as much of a problem|0 At least Im not stuck in a country where people can go bankrupt just to go to the hospital Good luck to you Haha Truth hurts That what you assume Haha Fat American talking shit online Sorry to say I dont take words from a Low iq people seriously As people like you are just subhuman in my eye Especially from a poor ugly fat ass from AmericaObviously you are triggered that why you are replying me haha|0 What a steal|0 I am ok with this This is an investigation after a complaint was filed by a consumer association It is still ongoing Basic necessities speculation is an offence in Italy but it is not yet clear if face masks are basic necessities as defined by law during a pandemic virus outbreak Dont really see the problem here Also nobody raided anybody The police acquired the data with full support of the mentioned companies at least this is what italian newspapers reported|0 I hope this finally helps get rid of the unethical Chinese wild animal markets that this disease came from|1 If it got to the point that I absolutely felt I needed to I could I just recently and temporarily moved to a different state and my health insurance only works in my home state If it feels life or death then a 10000 USD medical bill is inconsequential but it doesnt feel anywhere near that Thank you for your thoughts I think Im fine probably should just stay home and stay off the internet If there wasnt currently a pandemic I dont think Id have any of these concerns it would just be a standard crappy week of feeling sick|0 No This is FUD fear uncertainty and doubt It may be present in feces just as are a number of other nasty things people get This is where hand washing comes in its less likely in civilised society where people do wash their hands after using a toilet some dont this is the concern particularly before preparing food or eating but that could be a vector Youve the whole Internet at your fingertips go and watch some videos of actual doctors talking about this virus|0 If this is true which I dont believe it is then this is no worse than H1N1 Pretty irresponsible thing for him to say IMO|0 Thank you you are helping to save lives telling us this Stay safe|1 To anyone that is going to be laid off cause of this I will tell you if you need a job you should apply to some form of grocery chain Im a Head Grocery for Kroger and I can tell you that with this happening we are going to need all the help in the world to keep the shelves stocked There is opportunity if you want to take it|1 Aw thank you 3 I was in vacation actually Now trying to find a way to go back home from Sweden to arrive to Italy All flights were cancelled Ill be back to work on Monday|0 Well I find it strange that they are denying the effect of facemasks though it could be critical to prevent infections from asymptotic ones|0 This is what I was looking for I had feared the opposite|0 Shocked|0 Or sang happy birthday just once|1 I think they meant to say protect them from you|1 ChinaFranceand Americatake your guess freely|1 Great idea But hopefully none of the people handling that food end up being asymptomatic spreaders|1 The world needs to ramp up production of masks This is the number one way to fight the virus Of course if you can stay home then do it But if you have to meet another person for any reason both people should wear masks Its amazing how this is not being said in the west whereas in Asia its mandatory to wear a mask outside your home Please everyone push this we need the governments in America and Europe to state this start emergency production of masks and require they be worn|1 Its important whose fault it is because were now trusting the party that pushed public services to breaking point to somehow keep those public services running in the midst of a health crisis on a scale perhaps never before seen|0 After a grueling quarter in school in addition to working fulltime as a tech in the ICU I was soooo looking forward to a vacation in the sunshine Finally saved up some money and had plans to take my kids to California and Disneyland My sister was going too And today we learned that it will be closed I understand and support the reason behind it but man are we bummed|1 4 cruise ships have been hit so far the number will only grow|1 Gotchur 6 Bubba BTW and so you know these chart posts are replaced at least daily When posted they are made announcements and the replace the one previously seen at the top if Hot sorted but they are not deleted and remain in the list of all posts made|1 The way I like to convey the speed of exponential growth is to imagine trying to drive a car safely that starts at 1 mph that doubles its speed every hour In an hour youre going 2 mph In 10 hours youre going over 1000 mphCommonly people expect and plan for merely linear growth where the rate of growth stays constant With linear growth after 10 hours youre going only 11 mph The disparity between linear expectations and exponential risk is why actions to counteract exponential growth must happen quickly and decisively at the beginning|1 If we go by modeling and genetic tracing of cases that are here we are in week 8 of a doubling rate of a little over 2 days We are entering territory of country wide 100s of thousands of infections The next 30 days we should expect to see explosions of cases and when we enter the 60 day time frame things will be about as bad as they can be This is assuming current doubling rates If the Administration get off their ass and start putting real measures in place it can be slowed Its really important that people prepare and get used to the fact that it is here and it IS coming to your community|0 Ive been a Dem all my life but Dewine is doing a great job He gives daily updates and tells us how it is I look forward to getting his daily reports|1 This is extremely wishful thinking Not a damn thing is going to change outside the government using crisis to take away more freedom Theyre already trying to pass something to require backdoors in all messaging This is 911 all over again where they play on the fears of the public to make things even worse|0 Thank you I have been looking for something like this Is there any info on the sensitivity and specificity of the RTPCR and the gold standard used to decide this what primers are being used etc|1 A positive test wont change the treatment plan for a viral infection Coronavirus is a viral infection Its appropriate to quarantine for viral infections like the flu or others as well Call Dr for symptom management advice or when it would be appropriate to get further evaluation|1 Sounds like the modern equivalent of serum treatments to me I hope they get somewhere with this will be very useful indeed|1 Its disgusting that people like this can even air these commercials This reminds me of the miracle spring water|1 You would need more Health Care Workers|1 I asked my friend who is a family physician this and she said yes Protecting yourself from the flu can help flatten the curve|1 Boomers that voted for him should be happy now|1 The woman in Canada is currently in self isolation at home and considered stable obviously they are looking at 19 other cases atm|0 But there is no contradiction Every study shows the same thing This is quite exceptional in medical research|0 httpswwwredditcomrcanadacommentsfkogekcanadas6majorbankstoallowdeferraloffku2lf9Banks are still going to make even more money off the backs of those who need this by accumulating interest|1 Isnt that how we normally name pandemics if politics were not involvedNames always invoked the origin point like the Spanish FluThe swine flu was named Mexican Flu before that name was hidden Even as late as the MERS Middle East|0 Yeah and then they gave him Remdesivir and he recovered|1 Problem is all the scammers would love that too|1 Doctors arent testing everyone All related deaths arent being recorded accurately For example if someone with underlying respiratory issues ends up with pneumonia resulting from the virus the death gets recorded as pneumonia This is being done on a huge scale and the true virality of the virus wont be trueoy apparent until it full takes hold in a country which accurately reports such thingsThis isnt a new practise either The Chinese will record flu related deaths in the same way|0 Someone said whats the point of living if youre a scaredycat when I asked about this Meh|0 Good pointit isnt an eitheror choiceit could be both Of course if we did it as part of regular societyif we had free and anonymous 24 hour call lines for mental health issues that had not sunk to the state of suicideif it was proactive in naturethen we probably wouldnt have many individual cases like him|1 Seriously I have gotten so many replies and messages calling me a shill or telling me to fuck off especially after my last post defending the diplomatic efforts of WHO and they all just are so reactionary and absurd its hard to comprehendMy new personal favoriteOk boomer Go sit at home and watch Netflix while we prepareI am probably one of the few people on this board that speaks Chinese I work in East Asia engineering medical devices chemical sanitizers and PPE specifically for these kinds of cases My company isnt on the front line since we work in Japan and were just a producer and not an emergency response team but I still feel fairly qualified to at least tell when were at ground zero or not and I know enough experts that I feel comfortable relaying their opinionsNow there is no way for this person to know this And I dont think my job means I or anyone else I work with is free from criticismBut this really highlights the kind of environment the internet places us in I think If this person met me in person they would probably not say something like this because they would be able to understand who I am and what I do But the internet erases all of that and therefore puts the opinions of everyone from veteran experts to basement dwelling schizophrenics in the same bucket and claims theyre all equally validPopular opinion rules allAnd popular opinion is usually pretty fucking stupid apparently|1 Its too late Just lock and load and yall will be fine|1 I mean sure but it wasnt my goal to explain how this was going to cure CORID19 but rather to explain why this is being considered as a treatment|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttppyrosoftcoukcovid19graphscoronavirus14mar2020jpgI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I get young people need ICU as well my concern is that if the UK lets it burn quickly then they can not even prioritise the young so who gets the ICU The rich or political class|1 Im a software engineer in living in the US Luckily for me my position consists of almost entirely of remote work which has been very nice I live in on the east coast in Virginia right near our nations capital and though the situation isnt nearly as dire as some other parts of the country I have a feeling its coming I have already severely limited my normal social outings Ive pretty much limited it to my normal Wednesday night outing at a specific bar but what else can I do to reduce my chances of contracting the virus|1 The idea I got from various doctor friends is that the warm weather will AT LEAST help mitigate it for those with weaker immune systems and at the very least also free up some beds and staff of the usual non corona respiratory illnesses that are more prevalent when its much colder|1 The UK is following WHO guidance If you listened to the Chief Medical and Chief Scientific officers then they clearly explained the importance of timing|1 There will still be regular negative people passing through hospitals for other care and nonpandemic related illness If you are positive and asymptomatic stay tf home Its not just coming to Canada its already here Alberta just reported its first two cases of community spread which means that there are certainly more than the 56 reported cases Im not as sure about other provinces Regardless continue listening to your provincial health recommendations Do not try to help on your own Isolating this early on can still have a huge impact on how much strain is placed on hospitals and staff|1 This could be the next 1929 in the worst case scenario But I optimistic that the West can learn a few things and start moving factories back home from China starting with critical medical equipmentTrumps tariffs may be done for The CCP will use their Rx and face mask exports as huge leverage against America We might be stuck to the CCPs terms now|0 And we do Even better to drive that point home|1 The incubation time of the virus is 2 weeks so we cant know whos infected before 2 weeks|1 Im not being racist here but come on this is why so many people around the world are angry and discriminating Chinese and unfortunately other Asians people They pull this fucked up shit and we get surprised that people are accosting AsiansIm not justifying ignorant behavior at all all Im saying is that Im not surprised thats happening|0 This is why I think whether the cdc had more funding or not they would still be completely ineffective These tards just dont have the brain cells|0 Imagine if we didnt have the flu yet and it was spreading right now would people be saying is just a cold|1 Also in Stark County Texas Roadhouse and Applebees had full parking lots when I drove by around 9 last night People are not serious about this yet|1 It is dont use masks unless you KNOW you are in an infected zone like a hospital Doctors are on the front line Save the masks for them|1 Been made fun of too Until we were a bunch of people packed in a bus and a lady started loudly coughing without covering her mouth The looks of judgments stoppedSome people are just mean howeverAnother time someone loudly tried to mock me stating its not worst than the fluyoure paranoidit offers no protection I tried to ignored him but he tried to pull my mask off my face I lied and told him I had a compromised immune system and had to wear one during flu season so hed leave me alone Some passerby helped me because he was very agressive That mad me skip wearing a mask for a few days But then I got sick flu so I started wearing one again because I dont want to contaminate others|0 Suspicion about the possibility of stealth transmission has been growing since midFebruary when Dr Sandra Ciesek director of the University of Frankfurts Institute for Medical Virology reported in the New England Journal of Medicine that in a lab she had been able to infect human cells with coronavirus samples taken from two airline passengers returning to Germany from Wuhan China While both tested positive for the virus one of the travelers had no symptoms and the other reported a mild sore throat and rashIn an email Ciesek said she believes asymptomatic people may spread the virus So long as that is so she added containment is nearly not possibleFurther evidence of the coronavirus unseen spread was seen last month in Massachusetts At a companywide meeting of Biogen Inc three employees who showed no signs of illness were found to have seeded a COVID19 outbreak that by late last week amounted to 72 peopleIn the Science study Shamans team built a simulated transmission landscape representing 375 cities in China They used available Chinese social media data to play out the effects of at least 173 billion travel events that occurred among these cities between Jan 10 and Jan 23 That is the period during which recognition of an unknown viral microbial threat was growing but just before Chinese authorities shut down travel from Hubei province the birthplace of the thenspiraling epidemicDrawing from data already gathered on the virus behavior the modeling team adopted certain assumptions about how readily it was known to spread from infected people who were sick Then in a series of computer trials they set their travelers in motion checking their simulated infection rates against official tallies|0 Also true |1 Yeah I do agree that a nil deaths goal isnt in the conversation But in my opinion very little is being done to protect people in highrisk groups thats what I was getting at with my first comment really I think a lot of people who arent in particularly highrisk categories find it easy to talk over the plans without really acknowledging that whether or not the virus is handled effectively will have a huge impact on real people who are often already unwell but dont feel ready to die Idk if that makes sense though Ive had a lot of morphine so my apologies if its garbled 3|0 Thats racist|0 every listed company has to shutter most of its operationsNo man Thats like end of the world shit This is not the end of the world|0 Ive done that for years now The problem is they dont have enough employees for all the people that are doing it now bc of the virus At least that is my experience in TX Orders placed now are days away from a delivery slot|1 So a few cases in Seattle is the whole country lmao|1 I would wear whatever mask you have and if anyone says anything tell them you have a cough and you dont want to accidentally cough on them when your hands are busy helping someone Its to stop you from spreading your germs not you getting it from them|1 We dont have enough masks and those that need them the most are those who are treating the ill Dont go spreading this sort of thing Yes we can protect ourselves from the disease better of we all have masks but there are simply not enough for us to do that so we need to be precise in how and for whom they are used first responders and caregivers first|1 Is that because your doctor refuses to give you a recommendation Call your county DOH or COVID hotline and ask them to help advise you If you are roadblocked call a neighboring county department of health At this point in NYS you should be able to get a test if your doctor recommends it|1 I feel like Ive had it for 3 weeks My fingers and toes started to get numb and pain would radiate from the bone with a sharp cutting feeling on my lungs If your symptoms worsen do not panic unless they become severe as Ive heard its a common trait for symptoms to subside and return|0 But thats racist Xenophobic s|0 Thank you A lot of his posts are that bad if not worse He probably needs a sitewide IP ban judging by post history|0 Thanks for saying this For first language English speakers in a general population Grade 8 readability of materials is considered the standard When there is a lot of material it is better to aim for Grade 56 For English as an additional language it is best to aim for Grade 4 This means words of one syllable as much as possible Sentences that are active and with one piece of information Lots of headings and point form You have done the most difficult part which is creating the document Now the editing is essential for it to be useful at a community level|1 If you are using a mask you should use a fresh one every day When you remove the mask you should treat the outside of it as if is contaminated handle the outside of it as liittle as possible and dispose of the mask safely Once you remove the mask you should follow the desccribed procedure above to clean your handsI love the moronic downvote I am actually restating the position of those who study these issues and nope gotta DV What I described is good mask technique but some neckbeard prepper knows better Okay|1 The fuck is a Pangolin|0 ok well thats not your fault they should hire more people If they are struggling then higher ups deal with the problem not the team or you This is why i got out of those warehouse jobs Slimey fucking business but stable money|1 Thank you Ryan Be safe|1 Excel China has excel Probably pirated but if you are suggesting a great power is going to do a coverup have the decency to at least give them the credit of using excel to keep track of that shitChina cannot both be so competent that they are covering up millions of people dying and yet at the same time so incompetent that they dont know how to use an excel to keep track of their shit Its not that hard 4 columns Thats HS level excel If China can copy a carrier they know how to use excel And if the government is covering shit up they know how to use excel|1 Yes socialist healthcare response would be so much better than whats going on currently|1 I find it odd that so many CT scans are being done Thats a hell of a lot of radiation just to screen a patient without respiratory distress as you saidIve never had one by the way how long is the turnaround between patients for CT|0 Not saying they are intentionally censoring Just saying that realtime on the ground information flows to forums like the post I referenced and doesnt flow from the likes of CNN|1 Youre continuing to bring up infection rate as if its even valid right now The US is not testing people at even close to the rates of other countries and we are at the top of the iceberg People are being denied tests with all of the symptoms purely because they cant prove theyve been in contact with anyone who has it but theres no way to know who has it because no ones being tested Its called a catch 22 if youve ever heard of that And while Im aware obesity isnt the highest risk factor which I didnt say it was if you knew how to read the pressure that obesity places on the lungs make it a significant factor on the death rates of the disease Your rate per millions mean nothing until the country actually starts testing people but we all know that wont happen because trump wants to hide the numbers and protect his reelection|0 The ban excludes the UK and Ireland though wonder what the thinking behind that is|0 Id be interested in hearing which animals are most easily infected by the circulating human strain I dont even remember reading anything about whether bats are susceptible to the current virus|1 WHO is not exactly trustworthy lol theyre shady af|0 Stay safe buddy|1 Im just a dank kid so I guess i will be safe|1 Theres always some dumb people out there My sisterinlaw was just talking about how she was going to buy a house last week I told her that would be incredibly stupid given what is going on right now and to wait at least for a month or 2 to see how the market reacts to all this and that theres a good chance she may be laid off she sells pet insurance and that real estate prices would most like drop considerable in the next few months She so far has ignored my advise and is still in the process of buying a house|0 2 days a year I think I have taken 5 days off this year Im 20 in Australia I get paid 26hour to fill shelves with bonus rates on Saturdays Sundays and over night I have 40 hours accrued sick leaveThe way the American work force is treated is disgusting|0 Well people on the cruise should still be counted into Japans numbers The cruise is just an excuse for them not to count the numbers which doesnt make any sense By that logic all other countries that identified cases at the airports for quarantine should not count the numbers Theyre literally abandoning ship to save face at the expense of thousands of their own citizens|1 Its not incompetence Its negligent and purposeful at this point|1 This is horrifying I hope you manage to turn this around|0 Dont worry google still knows where you were they just wont show you|1 Lol you mean the thots are getting more viewers Twitch is shite for game streaming|1 That one very young Chinese doctor did Theres a theory that high viral load exposure is a factor Not sure if anybody knows for sure|0 Holy shit buddy type it on google were not measuring cocks here|0 Love to you and yours as well Good luck|1 Cruise ships are shitshows and should NEVER be allowed anywhere near Venice coronavirus or not Good time to rethink many things|0 Well the government could step in and distribute masks to those atrisk people and then let the remainder go to the market|1 If its the kind of thing that can be picked up at the pharmacy could you conceivably treat yourself at home without having to burden hospitalsIf youve reached the point of requiring hospitalization you probably also need professional hospital supervision and hospital equipment like ventilators or oxygenEven if you dont reach that point you definitely want a positive COVID19 test result before you experiment with these drugs The ocular degeneration side effects are not worth the risk if you dont have a confirmed case Yes I know some people take this for autoimmune disorders but not at the doses speculated to be used in ChinaIn other words You have to see a doctor anyway Just wait for them to direct your care|1 If you cant have an entire company get sick at the same time they wont function and if you want to have something to eat you need my company and others like it to continue functioning We are a staffing provider for Blue collar workers we work heavily in the food industry if our staff dont get paid they dont work and a lot of food manufacturing and logistics is going to be short of staff at a time when they are vital to keeping the country goingWe dispersed payroll to work from home our most vital not naturally dispersed by the way our business functions and the rest of us have split into two teams who will take turns in manning the office working from home in 2 week stintsThe Government is giving no guidence on these kinds of measures they probably should be at this point|1 Right on Im with you I prepped for two weeks I spent until all the money I had was gone My she shed looks like a bunker for an atomic war Its full of food medical supplies and cleaning materials Im trying to figure out how to can soups as fast as I can Yesterday I was sick as hell with a sinus infection but I kept cooking soup Ive been dehydrating fruit and everything else I can think of I know its exhausting Ive never prepped before either But you know what its good we can at least have a small peace of mind and rest a little easier knowing we wont be eating the cats food for months More power to everyone Peace and try to be friends with your neighbors You never know who could help you in a pinch|1 Pokemon Ring Fit Adventure|1 Recovered means two negative tests Not convinced|0 We are mild preppers and have been preparing for this virus for two months although we only have enough stock food for maybe 45 months at this point No extra gas storage or anything too crazy For the record preppers never want to be right|0 Doesnt lungrespiratory recovery take months Much longer than the couple of weeks that these children have likely had to do so It surely isnt going to damage every single persons lungs on this planet who gets infected Or else I guess 70 of the population is going to have a harder time breathing real soon|1 Yeah good thing Americans are taking this seriously social distancing and obeying competent leadersOh Wait|1 Offtopic but does anyone think this whole situation is getting so serious that there will be a lockdown on domestic flights within 5 days|0 So many people are saying oh yeah but Italy has a high population of elderly they are still people and they are still dead and it is still horrifying to see so many deaths Do these people not have parentsgrandparentsneighboursfriends over the age of 60|0 Ah Really good was about to search for this on youtube|1 Yeah and I wasnt talking about Korea|1 Selfishness has no ethnicity|0 Great post So we can estimate the true fatality rate is about 13 if 30 of cases are diagnosed Are there good estimates of what the the case diagnosis rate is 30 sounds low to me especially for places like SK|1 The weird part is that one would think that the CCP would want it known that the death rate is in fact so low when compared to the infection numbers This leads me to think that we have no real numbers about the death rate and that the number of deaths is likely much much higher then reported Nothing adds up|0 Maybe insurance will pay for 400 dollars but youll end up with a 100 dollar coinsurance or copay Insurance policies are really sly about not covering these sorts of things Its probably going to help Bernie out in a big with his Medicare for all that has the taxpayers all paying for 5 dollar test kits and then just paying the salaries of the doctors nurses and labs handling the tests|1 Im just sayin technically I think we should assume theres community spread but it shouldnt be hung on this one case I think there are stronger arguments using other evidence but thats just my opinion I agree with you on all preemptive measures you mentioned|1 Where have the comments about the 2040 year olds going into comas in the USA gone Theyre not even showing as deleted comments They were on this thread like a couple of hours ago|1 Yeah especially if you live in large metros where social gatherings are a daily occurrence of life|1 One day it will just go away like a miracle|1 the strengths of centralized planning over the free market boy it might be inefficient economically but if you have the economic capacity you get things done|1 Im sitting in lockdown in Spain now What youre feeling now is what I felt like two weeks ago A steady growing of alarm and a feeling of helplessness as those around you fail to understand the gravity of the situation In our case our most socialist politicians were pushing large scale events The 8M marches might go down as one of the most deadly political decisions in a long time Right now we are facing a secondary explosion from when the government shut down Madrid without stopping people from leaving People behave just like a virus They metastasized the virus around the country now small villages and communities will experience an outbreak Its terriblex200BThe whole situation put a strain on all of my relationships I run a small business that works with children My wife and I would end every night arguing about my desire to shut it down Finally I won out and we closed but the situation is desperate My Communidad Autonomo only has 55 known cases but we are experiencing community transmission and that number is set to explode We have an extremely high infection growth rate We are next The government has nationalized the private healthcare system and all individuals and companies must turn in facemasks and gloves Shit is going to get real here real quick Its going to be worse then Italy|0 Can someone correlate the Hubei gov release There were 11295 suspected cases and 6756 were excluded on the day 4890 new clinically diagnosed cases and 10567 existing clinically diagnosed cases were added on the same day 15514 suspected and clinically diagnosed cases were concentratedly isolated A total of 152251 close contacts have been tracked and 77195 people are still undergoing medical observation and the newly release figures They dont add up for me|0 Yes the goverments should make the producers sell the masks for 001 a piece That would be the best incentive to create new production lines and expand existing ones|1 That is a peer reviewed paper as well |1 It would be interesting to see if Israel came out early with a vaccine It would present quite an intriguing moral dilemma for those that feel strongly about boycotting Israel|1 Its not A couple was recently taken to court because they lied about their whereabouts Interviews are conducted for those with the virus and theyre asked about their movements for the past 2 weeks If they cant remember their close contacts are interviewed Anyone who has been in their presence long enough to be at risk is either served a stay home notice or quarantined at a facility Thats why Singapore has been able to control the spread so well|0 Thank you for sharing uthelovelyboners|1 Did smokers make it Tell me I have a chance I just quit|1 New Jersey is up and running with tests approved by CDC Not sure why NY isnt|1 As an Aussie nurse i just want to say that we are about to be overwhelmed Our government are in no ways ready for this We are still waiting for offical test kits we have opened a decommissioned ward maintenance are refurbing it the best they can specifically for virus patients 20 rooms thats all we have and we still need 12 more bedsAnd to top it off we are starting to see outbreaks in nursing homes ala Influenza A B a few years ago|1 China is the worlds king in logistics so if anyone can do it I think they can do it With that being said it would seriously suck for the hundreds of thousands of people there if they didnt handle the logistics well and some poor people starved by accident|0 BLENDED STRATEGY Im wondering about the effects of a blended strategy against the COVID19On one hand applying strict clean quarantineslockdown and social distancing for the general public and on the other simultaneously exposing selected healthy lowrisk groups people to the virus in dirty quarantinesincubators in order to expedite the process of making society immuneThe idea is it could potentially speed up the process of having immune people in society that would help create barriers for the spread while being able to participate in society and the economy and sooner be able to rebuildCould this work Points Enforce strict quarantineslockdown for the general public and enforce social distancing with a focus on protecting the week the elderly Apply dirty quarantines for volunteer healthy lowrisk groups that are exposed to the virus get healthy and return to society The environment is controlled with health workers to monitor and boost immune systems as possible to expedite the process I would love to see this approach added here if anyone here has the skills to apply similar modelinghttpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulatorhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulator|1 This is not a US only issue can we please keep US politics out of this please|1 Most of civilization in the southern hemisphere lives in tropical and warmer climates that dont experience a cold winter 97 of the earths population lives above the Tropic of Capricorn and 70 of earth lives in the northern hemisphere|1 s Ha We already have free health care up here in CANADA Seriously though Im actually glad its become more widely available|1 But but but Norway is the perfect example of true socialism We want socialism in the US s|1 So were just going to obsess over who gets rona what the numbers are all while buying up all the supplies and toilet paper people actually need Im already disappointed im how Trump and the American people are responding Its time to step up people Were protecting the sick and elderly this isnt the correct response here|0 Fuck them They will be some of the first to get sick and maybe die|0 I wish we did this Unfortunately our government is comprised of spineless zombies Italy is already in lockdown Why cant we do the same I hope Canadians remember this spineless liberal government next time federal elections come around We dont need spineless leaders that call measures taken by other countries as kneejerk reactions They are not knee jerk reactions It is called decisive responsible proactive effective choices|1 httpstwittercomBelfryofbrugesstatus1227947594984251392s20Says here shes the mother in law of the taxi driver Will update this once I see how the taxi driver was infected|0 Yeah true but it seems like everyone in every corner was smoking lol|1 Just like the simulations|1 Is it possible to even fully trace back where or how these things originated Or are we just bake to theorize Genuinely asking and curious|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 honestly it is hard to take much from the presented datawhere is the negative control ideally rt AND uninfected cells in case the primers pick up some endogenous RNA unspecificallyEDIT they say The Ct value was not produced from negative control indicating the reaction was done aseptically but what exactly is the negative control|0 Eightyseven percent of patients were aged 30 to 79 years 38680 cases This agegroup was the most affected by a wide margin followed by ages 20 to 29 3619 cases or 8 those 80 and older 1408 cases or 3 and 1 each in ages less than 10 and 10 to 19 yearshttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202002study72000covid19patientsfinds23deathrateIll trust this more than just one doctors offhand experience|1 Yeah And His job is to protect Americans So he tried to poach a company that could potentially help protect Americans He failed Buthe tried and that counts for something|1 you are okay with celebrities lying to prevent us from knowing what is really going on|0 It works in the city as well My wife and I are both over 60 end our typical weekend run includes a trip to the dollar store we buy real food at the grocery store but snacks and nibbles generally come from the dollar store|1 Please can all firstaid trained Scouts and Cubs attend the government epidemic facilities to receive their treatment kits|1 Romney was praised because he was a white establishment Republican And it was a state initiative not a federal one Im unclear how the Trumpers would have felt about it coming from a black establishment Republican if there were any I think they care more about bootlicking than race though obviously race is a big factor as well But if Biden either Clinton Al Gore Tim Kaine or even John McCain has proposed an Obamacarelike system the rightwingers still wouldve lost their shit|1 OMG I just remembered another fun fact about Portland area Arent we like the antivax capital of the us Ha Haha ho fuck|1 That is how the United States of America is designed The bigger the government the slower it acts You can disagree with how this country was built but its not an opinion The United States is a Federal Constitutional Republic comprised of state governments and local municipalities Small governments are more nimble and efficient The reason China is so screwed up from this is because a few guys in Beijing have to decide and approve every single detail Our states are completely selfsufficient|1 Due to the fact that youre in Charleston Im now picturing Bill Murray doing the exact same thing Pretty onbrand|1 At this stage Im in favour of changing airport protocols to restrict free entry to Canada Yes there has been a case where the source is unknown and they are trying to track it down This does NOT indicate domestic sources are going to result in rampant spread The reaction does show that our medical system is aware that any source stopped now will result in countless fewer infections in the future|1 Classic victim blaming being lined up here in this Tory propaganda All the old people died because they did not stay indoors Never mind the fact that the ICU will be full and only the sick young are going to be treated and the old are going to be euthanized Swearword|0 In case this is lost elsewhere in the thread For anyone claiming that most people approve of the catastrophe that is the Coronavirus response Here are 6 polls that say otherwiseShare of respondents who said they approve of the way Trump is handling coronavirusPOLLSTER OVERALL DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANSQuinnipac 43 10 87NYTSurvey Monkey 47 16 86CNNSSRS 41 10 79Public Policy Polling 42 12 79ReutersIpsos 37 15 75EconomistYouGov 37 11 85httpsfivethirtyeightcomfeatureshowconcernedareamericansaboutcoronavirussofar|0 Great post |1 So you dont wear a seat belt because you could still die anyway|0 Immune no not what I said broYou said But I thought caucasians were immune because less ACE receptors than asians|1 Give him the Walmart articlehttpsabcstlouiscomnewsnationworldwalmartsetsemergencyleavepolicyfor14mhourlyworkersThey are allowing workers 2 weeks paid sick leave if you get the virus because greeters are mostly senior citizens The article states that they are worried about thisthey dont want some at the entrance keeling over dead like the videos from china|0 There are no Parties that brand them selves as Orthodox Political parties in Israel there are Ultra Orthdox parties Shas UTJ Noam Ortdhox is Halakha rabnit meaning literally any Jewish party who use Halakha rabnit that include even Lieberman and Likud|1 my mom had meningitis for a couple months last fall her fever rose to 105F and would decrease as she took antiviral meds but at the time she was misdiagnosed and basically ignored for 34 months finally the did a test ive never seen her so weak|0 When it hits 191919 there better be an event|1 This was me in late January in Kentucky However my best friend had been to Seattle for a week He had just come down with a dry cough and I stayed the weekend with him That next Wednesday night I started to feel a little off just really tired Same thing for Thursday and I was coughing as well That next morning my couch was bad my chest was rattling and I went to urgent care Tested for flu negative Doctor said listen I dont need to do an Xray your lungs rattling You have pneumonia Explained to the doctor this all happened in a couple of days Blood oxygen levels were 92 She was debating on giving a breathing treatment and I told her my inhaler would be fine She loaded me up on steroids and antibiotics I had to cancel work meetings for that day some coworkers were giving me a hard time jokingly saying how do you have pneumonia you were fine two days ago It was that I felt a little better the next day and slowly was getting better throughout the week minus that horrible cough and being tired Body aches were becoming less frequent It hurt I was coughing so much My throat was so raw it has never been that raw ever My body was aching so bad my fever was always catching at night I couldnt sleep enough Finally after 8 days most of the symptoms went away and the cough was better But for the next two weeks even without symptoms I would wake up feel fine two or three hours later I felt like I had just worked out I was taking a nap every afternoon for an hour and then would wake up and go to bed 5 or 6 hours later Finally recovered Im not claiming I had it What I am saying is it was scary and as a 30 year old M Ive never had something hit so hard and linger for so long If it would have been spreading around then I would have been sure I had it I was never at the point where I thought Im not going to make it but I did think I cant kick this As for my buddy same thing Went to the doctor negative for flu Doctor seemed perplexed same shit He had a similar trouble kicking it like I did|0 People with hypertension are 60 more likely to die not 50 times more likely httpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51The risk for people in their 30s is very very low so an increase of 60 still leaves you at a very very low risk|0 I appreciate your inputNow go make me a latte|1 I will never forgive them for getting rid of the Big Xtra|0 That is the biggest issue that we dont have enough supplies When you have 20 million people in a place like NY alone thats the real issue 2 isnt really shit and regardless if its 10000 people or 1000000 people youre not likely to be infected but the more people there are then obviously the greater the number of serious cases even if theyre still a minority of the overall population They definitely need more ventilators No question that 700k is a significant number but out of 330 million americans across the US thats literally a few points less than 025 of the population that is estimated to need ventilators to put into perspective|1 yeah no shit|0 at most state levelsIf you could provide some evidence of that I would appreciate it|1 As an Austrian I am glad this is happening My sister in law just told me that theres lots of old people out on the street on walks many people just dont seem to care So if the government needs to reinforce rules to keep us from harm so be it|0 Panasonic wont close and its a factory But we cant afford rent if they close But we may get sick if we go to work This is fucking America i guess|0 Ill throw another shrimp on the barbie for ya|0 I work in Kirkland WAI have no idea how or where to get testedTheres absolutely zero way to know the cost until after any medical treatment hereThe Healthcare system is a jokeIve called a few placesand they dont offer any tests and didnt know where to refer me|0 Thanks a lot there tips|1 Someone sick will accidentally spit into the people below|0 tell your loved ones you love them and make out a willWhat the fuck haha are we talking about the coronavirus here or ebolaThis sub is starting to look like its filled with rcollapse users jesus christ|1 It figures that people who are in the income bracket to afford Leafs tickets have been Pavlovconditioned by their lawyers to be childish about money|0 But do they die without hospitalisation|0 Given how awful the air quality is in China Id consider looking for variance outside of China When your air is 10x worse than LAs your lungs are going to be shot whether you smoke or not|0 Thats not the main reason I love the fact that this has to be repeated about 8000 timesday|1 Rest of the world learned from China getting fucked so who knows|0 All of the cases in my state are from people who went to Italy I swear theres a migration pattern here I never knew existed before|0 About 2 days Mind that it might have been Corona and we are definitely not sure|1 Any virologists on here Are the genes of this virus that are similar to HIV any that could make this a retrovirus There have been lots of reports of recovered people getting sick again or testing positive againMy big question is whether this is people who are not actually fully recovered or if the covid 19 test is inaccurate giving false negative viral loads or if all these people are getting reinfectedThere seems to be something strange regarding the recovery from this virus the scientific community is missing|0 Thats such fucking bullshit lmao Say what you want about it Chinas complete lack of regard for human rights and freedom is why China went from one of the worst affected to slowest growing in terms of cases in like a week They are sanitizing the ducking streets|1 Now what is racismRacism means the hating of a species by another species As far as i know we might look different and have other stuff but we are all humans If they were dogs ok thats racismThis is straight outta a dictionary from 1920 where black people were straight up hated up till 1980|0 Because its just fluAnd nobody said even flu can cause potential health complications later on|0 Dont worry theyre all in like new condition since no ones ever been able to successfully use them|1 Cant agree more here|0 The impact of a lockdown is the whole flatten the curve thing as in not necessarily reducing the amount of people who get it but spreading it out so that it doesnt completely overwhelm the healthcare system We cant contain the virus It will still be circulating in the US six months from now and possibly for the rest of our lives|1 If you ever need to shut them downI live in Italy I have a lot of time on my hands since my entire country is on lockdown 60 million people If you need me to write these people something to make them understand the situation Ill do it gladly|0 Good Fuck drumpf and fuck us of a|0 I as well as the toilet brush my toddler thinks is a giant hairbrush and toothbrush agrees|1 I feel like that effect in America is intentional Top dog didnt even want to let people onshore because of his numbersThey have handled stuff like this in the same way before If you cant see it or count it its not a real problem Even if you do see it it still will be deniedDifferent disease and different administrations but the same thing was done with HIV|1 TBF this is likely the situation everywhere The only difference is that AU is being upfront and proactive about it|1 Great video from BBC showing that WHO assessment that no country is ready is correct httpstwittercomthesunilgargstatus1233723465359708160s21|1 Maybe because the US president just used the word Chinese virus and the CHinese in the west will have to expect not only further spread of the virus but also frequent racist assault so they try to flee back to China ironically one of the safest place at this point at least they know if they get infected the govt will do something|0 Gender equality is an important topic but this is really a stretch Who is caring for the ill both in formal healthcare settings and at homeIt is probably mostly womenProbably huh Nice science Julia is clearly desperate to publish but this is just trash|1 Theres more than one group that deserves sympathyI care for people who are vulnerable and in fear and whose best defense is that other people stay put I hope they get help and reassurance and that they dont get sickI also care for people who did nothing wrong and are now told theyre not free to go effectively placing them in detention without even the legal avenues they would have if they were actually arrested Doubly so for healthy people who get locked in with the infected in incubator scenarios as happened repeatedly on the cruise shipsI dont think its selfishness to want relief for those who find themselves in either group|1 If youre not rich or famous youre screwed|0 Yeah thats the vibe Im getting Brunch In Manayunk was still busy yesterday We sat at a table outside by ourselves lol|1 The fact that EVERY SINGLE STATE is doing different things is not not helping anything|1 Ironically China is a safe bet right now|1 I mean no but some free masks would go a long way|1 Meanwhile in Maine stores keep letting 4 people buy out the entire days stock even after a week now of not having enough for people The fact that it isnt mandated to limit of items per customer yet is going to cause a hunger crisis before long|0 I think the primary factor for anxiety right now for me is the fact that in my area we are not doing much to mitigate the risks of this at the moment and by all appearances our leaders are failing to respond appropriately Thats slowly starting to change but its hard feeling powerless or seeing people act as if its all a big joke Once everyone buckles their seatbelts it will be a lot easier to keep a level head|0 The stronger the healthcare system and the better people adhere to often quite basic behaviours sneezing into a tissue washing their hands all of which should be part of standard practice anyway the lower the case fatality rate will beAre you confusing measures to reduce transmission with CFR in already infected persons|0 What interesting culturallybased reactions to COVID19 have you seen|1 I think more people are getting on the same page yet tons of people are still out partying this weekend Its half and half|1 Im curious what makes Italy so different from everywhere else|1 Sensitivity and specificity are awful 79 is much better than 48 but if you rely on this protocol to decide who to PCR youre still going to miss a whole lot of cases|0 Economist here Thats absolutely not true Higher prices here are not a result of collusion theyre a result of increased demand for a limited supplyThis is microeconomics 101 When demand bumps out the price increasesIn this case due to high demand and finite supply 400 is the market equilibrium price no collusion necessaryIf this continues manufacturers will want to step up production and that will lower the price To meet the present demand that could take a while thoughStepping into the market with regulation could be a good idea but regulation in the form of a price ceiling is notIf we artificially lower the price back to where it was prior to the outbreak the masks will all be snapped up super super fast They will absolutely be gone as soon as they can be made They will be more unavailable than they are now Thats because there arent anywhere near enough masks for the quantity demanded at a normal price A better form of regulation might be to limit sales of masks to health care facilities That would reduce the quantity demanded lowering the price and it would make sure that the people who really need them get themAs resources become scarcer the price of those resources increases In some cases where an externality is present regulation is desirable However imposing regulation without an understanding of market forces often does more harm than good|1 But DONT TAKE NSAIDs Ibuprofen Advil Motrin etc if you think you have CovID19 A study out of France says there is a connection between taking NSAIDs and the condition worsening Tylenol and acetamenaphine seem to be OK on the other hand But in general you dont want to be suppressing your fever if you have one Better to take cough medicine and sinus medicine so you dont spread it around too much and can get some sleep at night|1 Dont forget the adult diapers and not using public restrooms|1 Good for him|1 Weeks Ha|1 I cant even find a handcranked flashlight Where the hell am I gonna find one of those There goes my prepping right out the window|0 People that had severe case of SARS still have issues|0 I would study the fuck out of those 3 people|0 The quarantine started but there was still a lot of transmission within households Look at the number of new cases confirmed in Hubei it was still more than 1000 per day through most of Feb|1 Ive read that research in china found out that high blood pressure is a major factor to rise mortality risk Are you choosing yet which people come into intensive care and which are left to die because their chance of surviving would be small anyways And what else do you think might be factors for preferation of patients Also does money make a big diferrence in your chances on intensive care|1 You are an anti Vacay crazy person|0 Addicts need help Recreational drug users dont They need punishment And I am uncaring of your dislike|1 Its not world ending but your views are swinging too far to the other extreme The main difference with this virus is its high transmission rate It is very contagious Putting mortality rate aside what is not getting enough focus is the rate of serious illness requiring hospitalisation In Wuhan approx 20 of diagnosed covid19 cases resulted in serious illness requiring hospitalisation Even if only 20 of Americans get it it will likely be more this could mean that around 12m people need critical care in a hospital USA has less than 1m hospital beds and many uninsured people will not be able to afford the treatment anyway The impact to society and the economy of that fact alone is considerable|0 Echoes of the Masque of the Red Death|0 This is horrible|0 Sounds like someone whose livelihood depends too much on the bullshit|0 As opposed to not getting infected|1 Cops will still be working if quarantined All Nonessential jobs would be forced to close|0 Like I said conflicting evidence The WHO is taking one route based on one body of evidence the CDC is taking another Lets save the masks for healthcare workers|1 Im specifically talking about the panic I see all over this sub Theres countless comments about how this is like the beginning of a pandemic movie or redditors who act like they know better than WHO just because the data has been changing For sure pay attention to the reports and be aware and cautious|1 Proactive reactive|1 I wouldnt go in war with China after this They shown to be very competent and organised during crisis Unless you think moar nukes will do the job USA managed to force Japan to capitulate because only USA had nukes at that point Right now countries having nukes cancel each other on that front and NATO cannot defeat China in conventional war given their army size resources and number of factories Will take months for USA to start new factories from scratch So no war against China is not an option Dont think diplomatic pressure would work after this because China will come out much stronger with more allies than before|1 You have a point and its a fine line to walk but suppression and control of information as well as urgency of the situation can cause it to spread more by the population being unaware and not altering their living habitsIts a hard decision to make More likely economic collapse would be a more immediate danger for full on chaos for now at least And i understand if we let that fail its an early checkmate on us with no chance at finding a cure or handling thisHard to say what should be done|0 Its easy to come to that conclusion when only 30 of their country holds a passport|1 China is a worse place to live than the US undoubtedly But this place is far from perfect and gets worse every dayIts good that you understand that It is interesting that youre pretty much restating what I said Even quoting back to me exactly what I said to youAre we now both hypocrites together|1 I see this misconception all over places most mainstream media still use say 80 dont even notice they have This is very bad I even see people say death rate is 3420 as 80 are not countedI hope at least all mainstream media could stop saying that|0 Your last paragraph in particular describes exactly how I feel now and how I felt a few years ago when I had a major cancer scare I had no control over the situation and it was terrifying But somehow reading about the odds and such calmed me I think its definitely that it gives a sense of control and also that you feel like youre actually doing something other than sitting and waiting I think its kind of a basic human instinct that when theres perceived danger you feel an urge to do something and its incredibly unnerving to just carry on knowing that something could be about to befall you your loved ones etc|0 thanks|1 YOU are Fake News|0 Dont worry the patients selfquarantined seems to be the party line on this side of the ocean In the meantime they passed through airports with hundredsthousands of people not to mention in contact with others on the plane Normally when you return home after a trip you need to go to stores to pick up a few essentials I find it hard to believe that the majority of people with 2019nCoV arrived in the US and Canada and immediately went straight home and stayed there|1 Should we be worried|0 Yeah the common use of the word viral to mean something spreads rapidly does complicate matters But contagiousinfectious are more accurate|1 One can hope that this will produce some social change in America|1 Thats what I said when I posted the link I rewatched the part where it talked about their backgrounds because I was busy doing stuff when it played the first time and didnt catch the specifics|1 45 new presumptive cases today I hope they are the nontravel related cases they were refusing to test last week|1 Im not doubting the verocity of of this image I just doubted the weapon from the second image would keep people away|0 yes |1 I guess Im completely safe at the casino I work at with 4500 employees and a target demographic thats the most vulnerable to COVID|1 I like how they pretended this is the only kid in school with it Likely someone in that press conference had it Yes close and sterilize the school Then what|1 And WASH YA HANDS FFS|0 This dude is posting this utter nonsense on the Christian boards also Ive never read anything more absurd Talking about reaching|0 My heart goes out to you I hope everything works out|1 I am at my friends house studying right now and she must have touched her face about 100 times within the past 10 minutes and its driving me crazy I dont even want to be near her right now|1 Huh No one in the senate has anything in common with some working mom with two kids living on one salary This virus impacts both of these groups very differently and paid sick leave policies for him doesnt change anything in his life or death decision|0 You cant shut down UPS It would literally stop almost all American businesses|0 You should write on the mask Im not sick but you might be|1 I think we are well pass the point of this might not be a problemHow many times did people try to deny the reports of human to human transmissionEven though the good doctors of Hong Kong University tried to warn of exactly that They also went out of their way to end their Lancet report with the warning of asymptomatic transmission and when people tried to link that here and discuss it they were told that they wanted death and doomAnd that the Lancet reports were alarmistHave some humility but no the beat continuesAgain trust people it is that simple Allow them to make their own choices Denying people facts so that they cannot make informed decisions is one of the most unethical denials of freedom|1 There are two strains of the virus The L strain is more aggressive If I dont have that mixed up I believe Wu Han had both strains at once Thats why they had to quarantine so hard|0 Uhm I think people got the article a bit wrong or if it has been updated afterwardsThis swedish textHon mste ha trffat ett antal personer i alla fall Patienten hade fyra symtomfria dagar innan det kom och det r drfr bedmt bde hrifrn och av folkhlsomyndigheten att det inte fanns ngon risk att hon smittade under transportenTranslates toShe must have meet up with some people at least The patient had 4 symptom free days before it came and that is why we have assessed both here and by folkhlsomyndigheten directly translates to people health government that there was no risk that she infected others during the transportProblem is and this is kind of worrisome that it is a known fact that the virus can spread from person to person even if no symptoms are showing So instead of playing it safe they make this assumption Although good thing that the woman contacted the hospital directly A for that|0 Is this Earth just saying Ok Boomer|1 Cant believe that these people are just worried about bank profits when people are dying from the virus and hospitals are getting overwhelmed|1 While Korea has done a lot of things right in response to the coronavirus you sound like you havent been to Korea in decades meaning you dont know Korea now No its not as you describe it there are assholes there too the difference is how fast the government responds and the culture of public health|0 Hes right about the 2 calculation being wrong while the infection is spreading doing it that way is more correct towards the endHis way of doing it is better but there are several caveats like you said this only includes inhospital cases and we know those have 1116 mortality of course this is diluted down by people with no or mild symptoms out of hospital but also by unreported adhome deathsLastly infections deaths and recoveries dont happen at the same time According to the latest Lancet study the one with 99people 11 first come test confirmation making the infected list about 514 days after infection then comes death as the most severe cases died quite fast then comes recovery with up to 22 days of hospitalization and another week of birocracySo if he knew to accommodate for reported birocracy delays and fill rates delays and waited for the recovery to keep pace with deaths at steady rate he would get 11 instead of 33 still not near correct but hey why rely on real models from scientists from HK and UK predicting 4 and 65 when you can make your own PS I have my own methods and numbers but lost interest once numbers began being limited by capacity|0 But what aboutIn light of the fact this has been obviously more contagious and more deadly you would expect a pretty strong responseSo leaving your response to banning a single destination after it was clear it had spread to others failing to follow basic health protocols for Americans returning from abroad downplaying the severity seems like something you would want to hold the admin accountable for|1 Twitter is obviously your friend because anyone can post any claim on it and it must be true because it was on twitter You probably didnt think Brexit would reduce your personal income by 1200 a year either because Facebook and twitter said it would be great but it will|1 Toilet paper sucks anyway Just take a shower|0 CDC is saying that most likely because there isnt enough mask for everyone It is best to reserve them for patients and medical personnel|1 Dude you quarantine people to their rooms Not super high level logic There is a reason epidemiologists and virologists and public health officials made this decision and you didntThe reason They know a fuck alot more about this than you Full Stop|0 well its a damn good thing they were holding off letting that ship dockJust think of the numbers then|1 if you hold your breath waiting for them it also reduces your risk of covid19|0 That was fireworks for Chinese New Year Misinformation is a disease|0 What millennial children are experiencing with their parents is nothing new This coronavirus yes thats new But this struggle that occurs between older generations and their children isnt new at all Something happens to the human psyche as we age On one level people just get tired Theyve had 60 70 or 80 years of one thing after another and you get to the point of Im really tired of this Im going to live my life my way and go out doing what I love In theory I know that younger people can understand that to a degree but there are things that you really cant understand in life until youre there until youve arrived at that point for yourself in life And aging is one of those things Looking at the world through 70 or 80 year old eyes is a totally different experience than say 40 or 50 Once again I know that younger people understand that logically but they cant understand all of the subtle and not so subtle ramifications of that until theyve arrived at that point in life themselvesGive your parents the love and support that you can But you cant control everything in this world and you shouldnt try to Just love them and let them live their lives the way they want to Best of luck everyone|1 The person suspected they had it right Otherwise they werent denied the test They just werent tested if you wanna get pedantic|1 The healthcare system wants and needs nurses and doctors to be coming into contact with potential patients without being fully protected in protective equipment|0 Probably a lot Quite astonishing she didnt even ask a Chinese person about the tshirts or the weather or didnt even consider how big China is and how the weather is different due to its longitude and latitude in total Does that make a good debunker I dont think so Probably not the worst but it would seem in this case where were mainly looking into China a lot crucial mistakes such as these might end up costing lives due to misinformation or a lack thereof|0 19250000 is manageable though Not nearly as deadly as aids spanish flu etc A famine that would occur if you shut down the global economy will be far more deadly|0 These are one of those comment chains where I say this is fucking insane people are trying to scare me and a mix of this is fucking insane who could even make this up|0 Oh very Thats why its a no win Close borders stop pandemic anger over economic impact and it amounted to nothingDont close borders delay economic impact but pandemic hits anger over millions of deaths and economic impactObviously we know what the right action should have been but the right action would still inevitably be seen as the wrong one because of its very success|0 Could be the case think theyll be investigating that to find out how Hopefully it was just a simple mistake with the biochemist misinterpreting it or somethingLooks like its happened beforehttpswwwgooglecomampstimecom5789745westerdamcoronavirusfalsepositive3famptrue Says about possible other respiratory illness resulting in a false positive|1 I seriously doubt that Maybe in some cases but not all|0 Remember the goal of militaries is to injure combatants takes more resources to heal not kill them This virus seems to fit the goal|1 Heroes wear stethoscopes Rip kind doctor|1 And China and Iran and EU and the USAWe had literally no screening|0 Did you miss the part where I support the citizens of China|1 I guess Ill just hit that pause button for 2 weeks|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 What they should do is sue win the case and get awarded a dollar or euro Then they win and but dont get money Done haha|1 Theres definitely an antivegan bias in a broad section of the mediaHad a discussion with my mom about a story about a malnourished baby The headline went with vegan parents starve babyThe problem was presented as 100 due to veganism Not say idiots who dont understand nutrition failing to provide the right foodI couldnt get her to accept that enough of the ageappropriate nutrients would be fine regardless of the source Shes convinced veganism is something only for adults like smoking or alcoholNever mind anything about macromicro nutrients or developmental physiology Milk is magic apparently And you cant grow without it|1 LolOn a serious note most banks now have apps that allow you to take a photo of a check to deposit itStill You funny|1 More rich people need to be like Jack|1 Going by that redditor yesterday who said a Chinese Man on his flight back home who was coughing on the plane who when confronted by dudes in hazmat suits told them to fuck off and they just let him goI wouldnt be surprised|0 So the question is how much better are we handling this epidemic than China when the outbreak first started We have had a 23 months head start to prepare|1 What the fuck is wrong with people Fucking ridiculous that something as small as this virus is enough to revert humans back to savages|0 The hospital system in heavily impacted regions is unable to provide care for the sick because there are too many The WHO announced a rate of 3 critical complications and 15 severe Those critical cases would need ICU levels of care and Im interpreting severe to mean secondary pneumonia in most cases The blog post mentioned CT scans they would be looking for lesions on the lungs which are prone to secondary infection That would require antibiotics and sometimes IV fluids and oxygen Thats very manageable until patients are stacked in hallways and nurses are sickHospitals in developed nations have plans for a deadly novel influenza virus those plans are very applicable here But it is like planning for an earthquake it is a catastrophe no matter how well you handle it|0 I have been staying up so late watching Aus went from 0 to 4 yesterday and one is right next to my house If it keeps growing at this rate you wont have to refreshing for much longer|1 Too late on closing borders He has let many infected people in to spread it around|0 How exactly could we have stopped it|0 I doubt theyre getting a break just doing other work instead|0 And im not even worried its just so damn fascinating|1 I think were up to 5 or 6 alreadyx200BThere was the most famous one in JapanThen another one that was rejected by 5 citiesThen there was one thats going to Alaska because it couldnt dock in AsiaAnd one that docked in Mexico after being rejected elsewhereThe one near San FranciscoAnd now this one near Los Angelesx200BI feel like Im missing some Anyone remember any other ones|0 They eat Live octopus and the octopus fights back holds on on the way down I guess a certain percentage of people die Same with eating live squid the tentacles grip the throat preventing swallowing or breathing|0 A culling of the elderly and weak isnt a bad thing if you look at it logically they are a pretty big drain on resources|1 True Had China taken decisive action this probably would have been a much more local problem|1 Maybe you shouldve stayed in SK Atleast they have better testing and theyre taking this more seriously|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Unsurprisingly missed the entire pointEdit I see the Chinese state propaganda offices have reopened and everyone is back to work|0 Stare at his neck eventually his head will start to look like a really bad fake edit|0 So then itll totally fuck us worse Always thinking about the short term we are|0 Doesnt mean they cant be asymptomatic and help spread it|1 North Carolina here I live in Waynesville North Carolina and work in Sylva North Carolina We are very close to WCU which has made all classes online until further notice Students graduating this semester are concerned that they wont be able to have a graduation ceremony I work part time at a fast food restaurant while Im finishing up my degree NOBODY has been coming inside to eat recently everyone goes through the drive thru to limit exposure My boyfriend works at Harrahs Cherokee Casino as a dealer they have put their cleaning staff into overdrive They sanitize slot machines when people get done and they have a new procedures for many things Many of our friends believe Harrahs should close to protect the employees and the public but I doubt very much that they will make that decision Over half of the casino staff would need to contract the virus for that to happen They have put a new attendance policy into effect for corona virus anyone who has contracted it wont be punished for missing work and must be cleared by a physician in order to return to work My employer has done the same I was in able to find toilet paper anywhere in sylva or waynesville I was able to find flushable wipes We are on our last roll of toilet paper I laughed when I read about people in Japan hoarding toilet paper because of one news article claiming that the toilet paper manufacturers in China were closing down because of the virus Japans TP is made in Japan Over night people started to panic I have a friend who works for the local Walmart and she told me that they cant even get the TP on the shelves The people line up and they just open the boxes and let people grab what they want with no limit on how many people can buy Today I saw a woman loading her cart with almond milk She emptied out the entire cooler My friend told me there is no canned food no pasta no TP no rubbing alcohol no hand sanitizer and no baby wipes Honestly Im surprised women arent hoarding tamponsyet If anyone knows where to find TP near waynesville please let me know|1 No problem Im no expert but have been following the situation Stock up on nonperishables if you can|0 Idk my mom is known to lick the samples|0 Nay theres still a way to bankrupt you Surprise bills|0 Yeah I am not into guns I am European dont need to expand on that you get my gist Comparing a slow moving virus that should have infected half the earth by now based on the predictions from this sub from a month ago to an immediate natural disaster does not seem fair|0 Yeah reverse that my girlfriend is a nurse so Ill be the stay at home mum|0 Wow that is terrible Im sorry to hear that Are yall having food delivered or anything I wondered about the logistics of this|1 They get given money in a place where a BOTTLE OF ORANGE JUICE is 25 because of how isolated they are Nobody chooses to live in a place with no facilities and thats simply a fact It is understandable that they are given money due to the issues that they deal with living in their communities Indigenous communities have the highest suicide rates in the world they have overrepresentation in prisons they take children from their families at higher rates than any other demographic in the world Even if they do have running water it usually isnt drinkable Money doesnt solve the social issues that they inherited|0 Please take care about your own health and mood as well Im sure there are friends willing to buy you food Maybe there is a service where you can order online|1 Stay in school kids or youll end up on Reddit making comments like this edit but stay out of school until your local government deems it safe to go back|1 There will be some effect for sure but unlikely anything dire unless entire China is shut down for monthsHow long do you think the shutdown would have to continue in order for it to really start hitting other countries economically|0 Privatize the gains socialize the losses Billionaires should not exist in this world|0 Idk why Im not allowed to create a post here but I feel youSo theres a news everywhere at anytime YouTube Reddit Instagram and I cant get over it Of course I read and watch some videos about it but not from the news channels I watch it from our Ukrainian famous doctor and USA docs And when i see a clickbait video or see any news report from TV my body starts to shake automatically and I start panicking I dont even interest in things I was Its scary to live in this world right now i really scared that it might get so bad that our planet couldnt handle it but I wish it will be alright from the bottom of my heart Im only 20 and Im just sitting like Im old and lazy and absolutely apathetic I started to care about health more and even saw the articles or videos which calm down but Im so paranoid I need help to calm me down|0 Well if they paid their taxes|1 Fellow UK student pharmacy so across from Chandler hospital Im sure school will be shut down before spring break beings but yet after this announcement Im surprised it hasnt happened yet No one cares in my building professors just make jokes Students make jokes Everyone is treating it like the flu but its not As a healthcare provider both in rotations and as a intern at a local pharmacy Im scared about unknowingly being sick and transmitting it to patient due to the long incubation period Im also just extremely disappointed in UK|0 No pun intended|0 Be the change you want to see in the world|1 Yep and its definitely by design Friend of mine came in contact with a confirmed case who is in the hospital on critical condition He quite literally threw up on her at her job We are 10 miles from a massive hot spot in the country and she could not get tested anywhere Called every hospital CDC Health Department General Practitioner she could think of Shes self quarantining because she doesnt know what else to do but guaranteed she doesnt qualify for this because its unfounded Were fucked|0 No I didnt watch the video The article translation timeline was pretty confusing and made it sound like they swabbed her post mortem and didnt suspect coronavirus until after she had died hence the paramedics having to leave and come back with a swab kit But auto translations are usually really flawed so I wouldnt take any of that as fact|0 United Kingdom is kind of like the United States Theyre a group of kingdoms England is a part of the UK Its like saying California is the USA Doesnt make sense Granted England is like 90 of the population of the UK|1 Or maybe there was just a serverIT problem|0 Wow Idk if I have ever seen Chinese sky|1 are actually 80 mild to moderate casesPersonally I think its fair to panic at least a little over the thought of being out of work for 24 weeks with viral pneumoniaEverybody is all oh its only a 12 chance of killing you but any degree of hospitalization would ruin me financially even if theres a 98 chance Ill recover|0 In all honesty though you function in society a different and valuable way|1 It absolutely has shit to do with trump The second he compared it to the flu hard core supporters dug their heels in and wont decide its dangerous until its too late|0 Calm down|1 near unlimited funds guaranteed improvement I would hypothesize that by cutting their budget it will force them to become less wasteful and allocate resources more efficiently thus leading to greater improvement in the organization in the long run|1 I dont think so I think its lower dosage than for acute malaria Ive seen 400mgday for a week cited but I might be misremembering Someone better informed can correct me Looks like the standard maintenance dose for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis is 200400mg Honestly I wouldnt worry about side effects from chronic use if I have pneumonia and this might offer benefit|1 Seems like were 12 days behind Italy on the 24th February they reported over 150 cases|1 I know this might not make sense at firstbut what if what if we use more than one facility to quarantine 3700 peopleNow hear me outI think it could be easier to choose 6 hotels and divy them up Yeah youre right That would be crazyLets just leave them on the ship so we can collect hard useful data|1 The symptoms are mot showing in people up to 15 days and they are contagious well before thatFalse The average time is 5 days There was data posted here last night out of 129 cases the majority had contracted symptoms within 5 days also a family case study was presented and 4 out 5 family members had symptoms the first 5 dayshttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseudlukfamilycasestudyfromthelancethttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseudlukfamilycasestudyfromthelancethttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseudfr5someusefulstatisticsof129publishedncovffocyxhcontext3httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseudfr5someusefulstatisticsof129publishedncovffocyxhcontext3x200Bup to 14 days is a exception|0 Ive been wearing disposable rubber gloves for a week and Ive been getting the same responses Just ignore the haters and do what youve gotta do|0 Oh look at Mr or Mrs Lucky with its 3 packages of pasta|1 Exactly its crazy how many people I see condescendingly saying masks wont do anything if theyre N95s|0 Actually should be considered Good News this is an important time for there to be no paywall|1 You must check the following box Out of country or wealthy|1 I stopped by walmartVa earlier today for some wipes lysol and hand sanitizer I just ran out and wasnt thinking about people stock piling and the entire shelf of wipes and lysol spray was almost bare Luckily I was able to find what I needed and while checking out this woman had 2 carts full of the 4 packs of wipes and as many cans of spray as she could fit in her buggy Like I understand the need for cleanliness but that it just ridiculous|1 Where did they say she got it from her parents And as someone that works for that worthless piece of shit of a government in health care thanks for the voicing your opinion|0 And I remember when people were laughing at the preppers just a week ago Fun times|1 Today I woke up with the news that its here in my country Per a 25 year old guy that travelled to France Spain and Czech Republic entered the country the 26th and just yesterday got tested positive No masks available where I live a lot of resellers online with high prices the government said they are prepared but still no severe control in the airports Oh no|0 Same So lame|0 Thank you all the very best to you and your family|1 Was it this video Exponential growth and epidemicshttpsyoutubeKas0tIxDvrgt287|1 They also lie about their flu deaths every year too The only data I could find is from 20162018 but in that 3 year period the official count was less than 250 deaths total Anyone with more than 2 brain cells can tell that that is a lie|0 You can be overweight and healthy now according to the minister of health in Belgium|1 I bought a full face respirator off amazon for like 100 bucks 2 months ago Why cant they use these|1 Please keep sharing Messages like yours reach people in a way that news headlines cant|1 I want to be in South Korea right now |1 I dont follow this logic at this point I could understand that a few days ago but now things are going tits up Everything is closing We NEED to do mass testing so we know exactly how many people have this Otherwise we have no idea if all these drastic closures are really warranted or not|0 Its true for the most part I live in nyc and many people think things will be normal in a week|1 Oh yeah I saw a video of 2 black SUVs just plowing through a blockade of cop cars demolition derby in reverse as 10 cops with mask dive out of wayThey got through|1 Im sorry that sucks|0 Nice presentation but like another article explained all of our data is completely flawed We arent testing enough to get a clear picture not nearly enough Some projections estimate up to 1500 infections in the Seattle area|1 Additionally medical staff usually wears masks to protect people with a weak immune system from other infections possibly brought in by the staff Not to be protected from themThe valveless disposable 3 or 4 layer masks are protective for a maximum of 20 minutes for trained staff After that time period the inner layers are soaked wet with humidity from wearers breath and useless against further incoming dropletsAs the name says theyre disposable|0 Thats better than nothing but inconsequential compared to the vast untapped power of the cloud|1 Curious why a wikipedias page is being linked on this sub|1 Good Keep going on|1 Indeed I understand the incompetence of the federal level Trump and his administration but my god so many state and local governments are failing even more From Newsom or Eric Garcetti and even the LAUSD council are dog shit and have no idea what to fucking do This is what happens when you elect people who have been politicians there whole life and never had to manage or work in real hard conditions They expected this situation to fix itself but that is just being fucking lazy|0 Looking at the death rate gives you an indication of the infected amounts of two weeks agoTodays total is 69 according to John Hopkins University and based on 34 rate that means about 2029 people were infected two weeks ago|0 so no big loss for the people Of course big loss for his family and friends though|0 In from Italy 20 days ago i was planning to go to Eurodisney i prepared my child party for gi birthday i spent 2 nights out with my Friends 10 days ago i went to rrstourant with my friends but something starter to fell strange Next day we cancelled the party 7 days ago we Ask for arefounf for Eurodisney Today we are living in a fucking Nightmare we cant go outside we cant shop and a lot of people i know are sick for God sake no One Is in icu A lot of watsapp messages with bad things that are happening No Mask for sale Its unbelivebale|0 The most hit region currently has a delay of five days with their testsFurthermore they only test direct contacts of confirmed cases that have symptoms No aggressive testing here|0 Yeah he is pretty fucking bad tbh|1 Is there a problem with what I said If it was performed through the national healthcare system the bloke wouldve spent all of 50 euro per consult at most Not a lot of cash flow there|0 Yes but potential side effects should be weighted by likelihood and dosage Even water has a lethal side effect if you drink enough of it|1 wow do you have a news article for that would be interesting to read|1 There was 2500 cases 7 days ago and now its off the charts And we still only have a couple hundred confirmed recovery Maybe all these people are getting sicker and then getting pneumonia Wish the recovery rate was higher The death rate is still higher than recovery|0 My daughter works at Chase They told her that they require a doctors note if she calls out sick Otherwise shes fired|0 the manufacturing jobs is such a small percentage of all jobs nowadays where that would be a win win scenario for everyone|1 Exactly Theres people who think this is a hoaxTo take down Trump theres people who think its fake news|0 To addRamp up testing need to get rid of backlog People walking around for 5 days before diagnosis is not going to help Nor is contact tracing going to be helped|0 Hey I got a question Is it true that most japanese people do not have faith in Abes administration|1 ucla fight fight fight|0 Coachella Music Festival Likely Delayed Until OctoberDecluttered version of this Slate Magazines article archived on March 10 2020 can be viewed on httpsoutlinecomjrwaJ6|1 If I deposit mail at my apartment I guarantee it will not be deliveredI get that people should know how to send mail but what if we declared that from now on voting would move to a mobile app The outcry of people who should be able to use a mobile app but cantwontdont would amount to voter suppressionIts about ease of access as much as ability of access Mail is not something many people my age would consider accessible|1 Probably because they know it is likely everywhere and as been spreading undetected for weeks If they begin testing young healthy people who will most likely recover at home the spike in reported cases will trigger panic and they are trying to delay that and preserve space and resources in the hospitals for severe cases Its the cat is already out of the bag panic mitigation strategy Let people recover at home thinking its just the common cold or flu and retain resources for severe cases as they roll in Thats my theory anyway|0 Id recommend stocking up on food that doesnt require refrigeration Its a good habit to get into for preparedness Im not implying the power is going out any time soon and outside is a fridge this time of year anyways but for a general prepping mindset it is a good idea to think and plan that way Cheers|1 Well being stuck in the foreign country you are flying to vacationI assume isnt so badWait everything is quarantined It wont be a vacation itll be a boring hell|0 The difference is Nixon lost support of a large majority of the nation|1 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Do you think the rate of infection could be different across culturesNo Just curiousbut why no Behavior plays a large part in spread and culture plays a large part in behavior Why wouldnt there be a difference|1 Plague Inc is an interesting game that attempts to simulate some of the ways in which a real infection might spread across the world but at the end of the day its meant to be an entertaining experience and not a modeling exerciseTo pick on just one of the silly things about the game people never actually recover from their illness without a cure no matter how mild the illness This is obviously not the case with COVID19 as we now know that tens of thousands of people over half the people confirmed to have ever contracted it are already fully recovered even though we currently have no cureI work in a public healthadjacent field admittedly not in the US and from my experience the game doesnt really get close to the true capabilities the world can bring to bear today in response to a Plague Incstyle crisis Its early days yet and in the west we have been a bit slow to get our act together but make no mistake this is a purely temporary situation There are already thousands upon thousands of people working on this and those numbers growing every dayWhats more the people who are a part of this effort whether they are in government or in a research lab have full access today to a global knowledgesharing infrastructure that would have been considered a ridiculous fantasy only a couple decades ago and which gives them instant access to the results of decades of painstaking experience in dealing with epidemics be it swine flu Ebola polio HIV SARS MERS and dozens moreThe world is a big ship and there is a lot of inertia Are there going to be short term issues Possibly yes Will we ultimately get the better of this I think theres little doubt that we will Stay informed take care of yourself but dont panicEdit Edited for clarity|1 Damn I do not think I want to know what happens to people that are found guilty and transferred to public security organsSounds like they have a massive stomach that they throw criminals in to be dissolved into mulch|0 No shit but weve tested hardly anyone in this country so its probably everywhere by now|0 Me too I loved the bald guy with the glasses on his head he didnt deny that more cases are coming but he was so confident in their ability to test them that I felt a weight lifted off my shoulders for this community People just want to see that theres a path forward and that someone is going to get them there even if it comes with bad news I appreciated they just laid it all out Are more cases are coming Yes We have heard of cases were you can infect others while not showing symptoms and we will be tracking known associates of the patient Should you prepare yourselves for a future time where we restrict large gatherings close schools and ask you to stay at home as much as possible Yes Those conversations most likely are coming Prepare yourself and your family to be able to handle being home with your kids and have proper supplies on hand Dont hoard but be prepared|1 Im sorry that this has affected you on this way and I totally sympathise So happy that your manager dealt with it well and listened to your concerns thats really amazing and you guys must have a special bond after today I physically cant think about this hitting my dad hes a 60 year old smoker of 40 years and is also the person in closest to on this planet Ive lost my mum and I have no idea what Id do if I lost him too Thats why this is so terrifying to me Hes also very French and wont stop kissing peoples cheeks |0 What are you Winnie the flu|0 Like this one httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle208354|1 No This virus causes a pneumonia A pneumonia is an infection Infection causes inflammation The lungs react by over producing fluid and sputum This hampers your ability to ventilate and oxygenate two very different but vital things Ventilation affects the CO2 in your blood Oxygenation affects just that the oxygen levels in your blood When you struggle to breathe you eventually tire out dont breathe enough your CO2 rises because you cant exhale it fast enough and this lowers your pH to an acidotic level as opposed to our normal 740 neutral Too acidic for too long organ failure and death You can cough out sputum if youre strong enough after recovering from a pneumonia and the initial infection has passed but often at first its the little air sacs in your lungs called alveoli that fill with fluid This is where gas exchange occurs If youre not exchanging gas or those alveoli collapse which is another related condition called atelectasis youre going to have a bad timeYou usually recover from a bad pneumonia in these ways antiobiotics steroids intubate and place on invasive mechanical ventilation which allows for paralyzing sedating for the body to heal and provides a route to suction out secretions and for bronchoscopy availability of bedside dialysis usually additional inhaled gases or medications and at worst ECMO proning the patient lies face down to get air to the back of the lungs and support when they become septic Edit My job is awesome but its looking like its going to be pretty rough pretty soon|0 Yep and they called out the China travel ban back in January as racist Ridiculous|0 And wear the best mask you are able to find andor make if you must leave your home|1 Two states are missing however they are some of the lowest impacted states so it should not make a big difference|0 I wasnt aware that Trump had publicly told sick people to keep going to work Wow|1 Would be interested to see how that works out after accounting for agelife expectancy and habits like drinking and smoking|1 Awkward|0 This is not good Cruise ships are a diseases favourite place to spread and theyre usually filled with old people|0 Yeah they said it was negative They said they had more tests pending for other people but would not comment on any negative test results only positive results going forward|0 I hope it doesnt hit the country to bad though The last time the US crashed their economy with their own stupidity it caused a world war|0 Im not 100 sure but they look like a high flow oxygen device Once you get above the need for more than 6 liters a minutes you need specialized equipment to deliver the oxygen Otherwise it will just go to waste as itll leakI havent seen this kind before but I have seen a few that look like the mask the character Bane wears in the Batman series|1 I totally agree|1 Its crazy that all of our leaders left and right are failing in some wayCuomo refuses to close schools in NY|0 A 10000 fine will change his mind real quick|1 Event 201 which he helped fund should have hopefully helped prepare for this then|1 Dont need one but you are awesome|1 The second one is clearly not true either considering its spreading in Australia and NZ right now|1 Whatever China do redditors will find a way to mock them Yesterday there was a thread about China rasing its medical staffs salary and guess what the top comments were mocking China like usual|0 These are textbook medical ethics dilemmas for which there are no answers|0 Something is going terribly wrong in Italy something went terribly wrong in Italy over 2 weeks ago|0 Forgive me if I am naive but isnt the CDC a federal agency that gets funding through taxpayer money If it isnt classified national security type information shouldnt all this information be readily available for the public by law|0 Im genuinely wondering what about it would be so much better than the free stuff Is it interactive 3D Customized Because otherwise Im not sure I get the point lol My own imagination is all that and free|1 3 months wow Our family is so big I can only reasonably stock up for a month or maybe two Its just so expensive But hey the trunk of my car now has eight 12 packs of toilet paper lol I guess thats 3 months worth for us|1 Ashdhdhdjdjdu I love you awesome stranger|1 China and Korea had to do the same I hope the USA is getting the FEMA camps lots of hospital beds and ventilators|1 UK is not going to contain this in a million yearsI came back from central London and 1 week later I started showing symptoms I tried to speak to someone at my GP and they told me its flu do not worry I havent got the flu in like 20 years or even a fever But my lungs are weak and get all sorts of pulmonary ailmentsI will not be tested clearly I might not have it but if I had imagine how many people I have infected already even through my husband at this point|0 Yes this is like Chernobyl all over again SHIT Im crying again|0 Because voters elect morons to office|0 I almost died when he said the handshake comment Just ridiculous|0 Ive got a holiday booked to NYC in mid April Do you think itll go ahead|1 I mean members of Trumps official task force need WH approval Not just some dude working at Berkeley|1 Agreed But did the airline know these returning Wuhan passengers had been in Japan for say over a month In which case itd have been highly unlikely theyd have been infected in Wuhan Pretty sure we dont have the full story here|1 This post is a straight up lie meant to push a political agenda You do not pay for quarantine care as it is by nature detainmentPutting the massive price on an epidemic will encourage people to not report a case until they are sure it is not just the flu|1 Any idea regarding how much smoking affects the death rate|0 As fucked up as it is a lot of people are going to rather see that outcome than maintain a lock down for that longThe economic strain is no joke Givem long enough millions of jobs would dry up nobody can pay debts banks and governments become insolvent emergency services stop functioning people will loot and riot and murder to survive Nobody wants thatI dont think it will ever get that far but at some point a longterm quarantine is just too much to bearWere lucky its not deadlier this is a sobering reminder of how fast we should be acting on new diseases Something this infectious with a 20 mortality rate could very well collapse modern society It would take years to clean up the ashes and return to normal|0 But the title is still true|1 This sounds like something the villainbitter hero badgoodguy loner would say with his teeth fully grind to his dog before doing something equally dangerous yet mundanetohim like jumping off a moving train and bashing into the window to defeat his sworn enemy|0 Based on my experience we toss plastic always Many hospitals dont take the chance As far as how things are sterilized thats beyond me scope An entirely different department handles cleaning and packing the reusable items but from my experience its only metal instruments|0 This is going to be so unpopular but theres so much truth in this opinion piece A lot of people working at home everyone should try to read it with an open mind if they have the time|1 A true hero|1 ExactlyUnfortunately its too late now like you stated Were already at community spread levels at this point|1 Well so far we dont know which is the right call IF it turns out the meme its just another flu is correct then China Italy South Korea have really shot themselves in the foot versus Anglophones Frenchies going no test no problem|0 Welcome to American Dream The Dream Land for modern slavery|1 Wonder what he has to say now He is a dick|0 Me too Are you feeling worse in the morning but get ok through the day almost better at night relative to morning like 50 better|1 First sentence cool fact Second sentence you literally made that up There is no reason that a quarantine should be 40 days in the modern era Dont spread false information|1 Yes Ive read also that in the original article I speak French You can find some more details herehttpswwwvitispherecomactualite91169Lequadragenaireatteintducoronavirusestsortidelhopitalhtmhttpswwwvitispherecomactualite91169LequadragenaireatteintducoronavirusestsortidelhopitalhtmHe seems to have taken the whole situation in a good way Unfortunately I hear that in certain cities in China people are now not allowed to leave their homes not even for grocery shopping See eghttpstwittercomBNODeskstatus1227944692328869888httpstwittercomBNODeskstatus1227944692328869888|1 If youre raised by idiots you are likely to be an idiot although not always the case|0 I mean you cant spell COMPENTENCE without PENCE either but sure|1 This makes sense as high blood pressure is a risk factor for pneumonia especially if were talking about pulmonary hypertension Higher pressure in the veins the more fluid expresses out into the lungs|0 Good pointIm former infantry so my version of camping usually doesnt look like tourist camping I still believe in carrying everything you need and packing out everything you take|1 Todo meco el vato si o no razaBut forreals even the Mexican President said in his maaneras that we shoul hug each other That the threat is not that bad|1 Sadly not available to European readers Whats he gone and said|0 Just to give you an example of how serious this is being taken in Canada This is the general consensus of people here 101THESE ARE NOT MY COMMENTS THESE ARE PASTED FROM ONE FB ARGUMENT IM HAVING WITH AN OLD HIGH SCHOOL BUDDYMan I just went to Superstore for some Ziploc bags in the same aisle as the toilet paper of course and it was like fucking Black Friday in there People pushing and shoving in the aisle And it was no mercy at the til aisles So 2 women freak out on each other trying to cut into the front of the lines Stupid stupid sheep DumbassesI would say the stupidity of humanity surprises me But it doesnt lolIts all a fear campaign to pursuade the elections We go through this crap every single year Surprising no one got worried when Trump and Putin almost started WW3Another year another panic amongst the herdfollowed by meme of false alarms in past years Sounds like vaccine ads for the common flu or shingles Nothing newDid you guys know that HIVAIDS kills people and there is no cure for it Why is nobody freaking out over thatwhy are we not freaking out over the common fluKeep contributing to the Fear Campaign guys|0 Thanks for the updateActually Czech Republic has had three cases not one|1 Yeah but the issue is that we need to keep working Imagine all workers in nuclear plants just not coming to work anymore That would just end usIts the same in every job stay as safe as you can and if it needs to be done hell then do it We need to stop the rest of the population from going out because its them that are infecting everyone at insane paceAnd we need decent protection any and all factories that are able to gotta be producing safety gear and ventilators from now on exclusivelyImho the entire planet is at war were all together in this and theres no going back|0 Or are just trying to save face which is fairly important to the CCP|1 httpnavermexDA5kzyRThe article is in korean It says that the kid was healthy and had a normal school life I read other articles saying that he was the vice president of the school last year so it is highly likely that the kid had a cancer|0 CDC estimates that the flu kills 56000 people a year Theres a consensus that Chinas numbers are way off Let pretend theyre honest Their medical system is so overwhelmed that they cant even test all of the deceased They can only burn them Many people have also died in set quarantineNow lets be realistic Chinas public numbers do not match any statistical infection model Its too low They are constantly changing the rules on who counts as infected and whos died from it or from complications of pneumonia Moreover they have a 2nd set of secret numbers that estimate that 25000 people have already died as of 23 Thats already half the flu death count in just one month Did you ever wonder why they put millions of people under total lockdown Did you wonder why theyve even blown up bridges Schools there are closed indefinitely I could go on but my point is look at what theyre doing and not what theyre saying Everything is not OkChina doesnt care about a few hundred people The CCP will wake up when its a few thousand people though You have to remember there are 3 billion in China who are tightly packed togetherEdit grammar|0 Why would you cry Have you not prepared|0 Dude I have the same thing But Ive had it for four plus weeks Massive work load and a super stressful birth of our first born all during this Corona bullshit has triggered my asthma like Ive not felt in years I even had to change up the meds But no fever no coughing no headache sniffles or diarrhea indicates just asthma|0 This 100x mainstream media is not a fully reliable source I hate that the mods pretend tht it is|0 You shouldnt ve kissing your grandma even if its just the flu People should be self isolating for other transmissable diseases too|0 Although I am a liberal I do recognize that both sides are incredibly bias at times I checked out BBC world report last night and it was a breath of fresh air|1 I have a feeling that even if this comes to light despite it being in plain view people will refuse to believe it My FIL has bought into the lies so deeply that he thinks Italys quarantine is an unnecessary overreaction As a hardcore Trump supporter he refuses to believe hes been lied to by the government He also just went to the LA marathon and is now confused as to why I dont want to see him for a couple weeks|0 Check my post history lol This news article is doing a lot more advertising then my one measly comment|1 please respect that most people here dont speak Chinese|1 Mate theyre considered by the WHO the harshest measures to be applied in a Western Country for a reason lets hope other countries will follow shortly its not blaming Italy and China and avoiding testing their citizens to keep numbers down that will solve this problem Its up to everyone to STAY AT HOME|0 honeslty probably had hundreds of thousands of deaths at a minimum alreadyLiterally out of your ass I live in China been here through this whole ordeal didnt even hear of 1 confirmed case around me We were all locked down at home the whole country and thanks to that we defeated the virus If there were hundreds of thousands of the deaths so minimum of 200000 deaths at a 2 mortality rate that would mean at least 100000000 people infected many people would have heard of a case near them numbers like this are impossible to hide|0 We are being asked to do Nasal pharyngeal an oropharyngeal swabs People cough aand sneeze when these are being done Also they cant wear a mask when the procedure is being done because you have to have access to the mouth and nose But Im sure they change gloves between patients|1 economic impacts afect people too people that cant afford to eat people with heavily worsened mental state due to having to stay at home for long the calculations are the worst|0 I take antivirals everyday for HIV Other than 3TC have any hiv drugs been tested against Covid and is it possible that they may act to prevent me from getting Corvid Does the low levels of reported Coronavirus cases in areas with high hiv rates Haiti Africa be used to determine this with stats|0 Hey get Bernie elected he will definitely wave these BS charges|1 It could have been a virus that they were currently working on unfinished that got released by mistake like it happened in the past with SARS for example Viruses escaping from labs isnt far fetched at all It happened may times in the pastWhen designing a virus lethality is an important factor but what is even more crucial is spreadability The ease at which the new coronavirus spreads and infects asymptomatic shedding is quite remarkable COVID19 might also cause long term health problems It isnt well known yet Some SARS survivors experienced significant chronic physical illness Mutations could also be another aspect altogether|1 All the more reason to support single payer now Im sorry man I feel for your situation|1 This is nonsense because only the very sickest people are getting tested|0 I love how people are opening up about the government and being less afraid to say what they feel|1 Unless of course you are going to be in a situation where you would be exposed to the virus Then you would want to protect yourself|1 Id believe it usually its the other side effects that compound the death that really push people over the edge|0 I like to research weird things comes in handy when you actually need to know something|1 Your english is pretty damn good stay safe|1 My parents already canceled their holiday to Oregon Also I can foresee entire workforces simultaneously out of commission and mass bankruptcy Most of us are hand to mouth these days and if the swine flu left me fucked over for a month in a public healthcare country imagine not having sick days and then being fucked over for a month|0 We all hate CCPs bullshit but this needs to be upvoted|0 No He got me But wait it is still faster|0 Anyone at or close to retirement age who doesnt have most of their money in bonds kinda deserves what they get You want stability in retirement If theyre still trying to play the growth game atin retirement are dumb|1 There is nothing more important than saving lives|0 Why do you get downvoted lol the reddit mentality|1 we are the strongest one oh wait|1 Even if they dont protect you 100 masks can protect I think authorities are pushing the idea that only infected people should wear them because there simply arent enough masks for everybody especially when there is a run on the stocks|0 Mortality so far deaths solved cases where solved cases deaths cured Italy 40 Japan 9 Korea 17 worldwide 6You might argue it should go down and maybe it will but its still quite high 56 deaths is big You might argue that even if the mortality rate was 25 that 75 is a vast majority But if someone gave you a 14 chance to die you wouldnt be took happy about it|0 No Im trying to see the truth you cant see the truth if you have your mind decided already Im still taking it very seriously|1 This feels like a virus that will stick around|1 Remember when the current administration fired the US Pandemic Response team at the CDC to cut costs|0 He has broken 50 multiple times|0 do you get shut down by the mods here too Im telling you man something shady is going on We gotta take care of one another|1 Great Hopefully things like this will persuade the few idiots in America committing hate crimes against all asians Its ironic were getting help from Korea and a lot of Koreans are being attacked because of the coronavirus|1 HahahahaI live in WA state and emailed my kids great grandpa telling him what the state of things was and to be careful He lives in The Villages in FL and he is SUPER not worried He even replied to my email by copy and pasting it into his reply and making his replies to my points in red He is about to get slapped in the face really hard by reality|1 What if we are already at 20K due to limited testing|0 It happened because this countrys federal leadership let everyone down on a multitude of levels For starters they just watched a bunch of protestors shut down the supply chains while the government stood by and watched Now theyre concerned what a pandemic will do to themThe next was the federal governments communication and preparation Everyone heard Patty Hadju and Dr Theresea Tam stand up there and tell Canadians that the risk was low that the flu was more serious along with a multitude of more social justice issues they were concerned withThen all of a sudden Patty tells Canadians to stock up out of the blue And within a week theyre closing schools parliments shut down and the leader is isolating Now everyone is scared wondering why they were downplaying this and why they themselves downplayed this while they look around and see countries like Italys hospitals collapsingAnother reason why your sister cant get toilet paper is that she didnt want to see the truth and was downplaying the virus as nothing serious Anyone who has been following this virus looking at the truth of the matter saw this all coming a month ago|0 Thanks for commenting I have used eBay for a long time too and almost all my experiences have been good Naturally I turned to eBay thinking I could just pick some up at a fair price plus shipping when there was no TP to be found at stores in my city and I was shocked to see the behavior of these sellers This problem exists in a lot of open market places right now with TP and other items people need that have shortages It was happening on Amazon until they shut these sellers down Hopefully eBay will do something about it soon The goal is to shutdown the price gougers online so that there will not be a financial incentive for the people buying these products in bulk from local stores If we can stop it then the items people need should be available for them locally at a reasonable price|1 Lol Hes a close family friend And hes still quite hard to reach|1 During the SARS outbreak at Amoy Gardens it was found that those living in block E highest density of cases and more viral exposure had a higher fatality rate than those in other parts of the buildingsIt does seem like SARS fatality is influenced by the level of exposure and nCoV could be similarSourcehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3367618|0 Shitok Ill stress eat my way through this|0 I kept my kiddo home from school last week due to us both being sick I still have the flu finally getting better after two weeks and fell into pressure to let kiddo go back to school because hubby works from home and I wasnt able to look after him On Tuesday after I started getting better I told my husband hes staying home from now on My friends and husband ALL told me I was being ridiculous and I couldnt pull my son out of daycare for the unforeseeable future Well that night our Prime Minister came on and basically closed down the whole of DenmarkAll schools closed restaurants cinemas gyms pools libraries etc etc If anything I wish I had LISTENED to my gut instinct sooner This experience has taught me to listen to my intuition I had a talk with my husband and he apologised for not listening to me and has agreed to remember this for the future Its better to be safe than sorryIn the meantime when him and kiddo were getting home for the rest of the day I had them strip and immediately go shower I personally gave my husband and ultimatum on that last week and said if he didnt want to do that minor thing he could live with his dad during this whole ordeal DNow as soon as he get home hes even more conservative than I need pshh|1 Yes it can and in this study they managed to keep it alive for weeks I just want to point out though that my comment isnt about idealized lab studies and that keeping a small amount of virus alive on a sheet of sterilized stainless steel at a constant temperature with no sunlight is not the same as how long it will survive on your coat or in a box shipping overseas A virus like this will not survive an international travel on a box|1 Source I missed that one|0 i have taken this very seriously and stocked up on 2 week food supply live in manhattan its extremely hard living in a small NYC studio all day and never leaving ever Is it relatively ok to stay in all day but take a 10 minute walk each day Just for sanity and morale Im sure in the suburbs you may walk for an hour around your neighborhood and encounter nobody but in manhattan you will literally pass Thousands of people in just 10 minutes And the city is swarming Im sure some people take it seriously but so many dont care|0 So unfortunately I no longer trust this sub because I keep seeing promotional stuff about corporations being compassionate which is really misleading This sub is also being used for straight up propaganda but should be used for critical information because Reddit and other places redirect here as the official information source Also as i said before twitter is not a source Please stop spreading this shit It gives false hope|0 The pharmacist should call your insurance because some are letting people get 3 months worth of medication to prepare for this virus I know that on my insurance website it states they have new rules due to this virus outbreak|1 Im in a mid sized Texas City with a church on every corner Thankfully most have cancelled services and events until further notice Theres one megachurch that actually has traffic shut down every Sunday when the service lets out and they havent cancelled anything so far|0 This vaccine doesnt have the virus It creates an immune response to a protein on the virus This type of vaccine is very new which is why they were able to create it so fast they made it last month record time to develop a vaccine|1 We did it skipper humans are no more|0 Yeah Its not going to be pretty|1 I am finding more and more anecdotal information regarding mask usage and spread reduction I think the mask culture might be more helpful than we think|1 Did he offered help in queling corona virus|1 I want life to return to normal not this everyday panic|1 Yes the coronavirus is serious and underreported But the lunatics on here are totally not able to stay rational Exhibit 10836 above|0 It is really annoying I have a mild cass and i rank it as 3rd most painfull event Especially because it last so long|0 Next week Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirusI think bumbling fool was claiming that he was sanitizing his hands and had nothing to fear Also why the fuck did he need to go to a hospital visit during an outbreak of coronavirus I get publicity make it look like u give a shit about the nhs but cmon|0 The headline itself is politicalDeclaring someone a martyr like a slain solder is a political move done by the governmentIf anything report the post itself|1 Even though as an adult youre at far greater risk of a bad outcome than a child under 9 Just in terms of not leaving the kid without a parent|0 Thank you you keep America moving|1 Care to elaborate|1 They they blew their chance to seal the border Every bridge and tunnel is wired to blow too late now|1 nice to see that they are starting to be more transparent|1 Yeah Im almost positive my whole family had it around New Years and Im just now finally feeling the last of it My youngest came down with a dry cough and spiked a fever then my oldest then me and my husband last My kids recovered pretty quickly while I had a sudden sore throat and fever spike for about 24 hours then a dry hacking cough to the point of throwing up for about 3 weeks then I just felt winded with a lesser dry cough I couldnt catch my breath At night I had to sleep with the window open to let the cold air in so I could breathe but still I felt like a fish out of water Antibiotics didnt do anything and for financial reasons and because I was okay other than always feeling winded my cough finally went away I just carried on until about 2 weeks ago I could finally breathe better but Im just tired now I never travelled but I had family come out to visit from the Seattle area about a week before I dont know but it was like nothing Ive ever experienced|1 I was honestly just considering this before seeing your post Another thing I would like to add is that people have been told there is a possibility they may be having to quarantine for several weeks if they are ill Weve also been told by the MSM to gather enough supplies for several weeks I have even seen it mentioned to stock up for up to 4 weeks When you consider the fact that most families will shop for a weeks worth of groceries And also take into the consideration there is a decent amount of people who never shop for groceries for more than a few days And there are others who dont shop at all Lastly Ive seen list after list after list of what to stock up on to prepare for the Coronavirus httpshealthusnewscomconditionsarticlescoronaviruswhattostockuponWhen you take all of that into consideration its quite easy to see how so many grocery stores even the ones youd never expect to be essentially wiped out of goods Like where I live in CM County and the neighboring Camden and Atlantic Counties that havent had a single case as of today People are also fleeing in mass exodus from large cities putting more strain on stores that would otherwise not have to deal with it I wont even get into the fact of these people possibly being asymptomatic and fleeing to places that have remained case free till nowEDIT we now have our first case and it was a lady who was symptomatic and wouldnt you know she had arrived two days prior from NYso much for being case free Please reconsider your travels and listen when they say to stay put There is no escaping this But we can slow it down to the point where we manage to overcome it The less spread the better The more it spreads the more places will shut down and the further and further and further this is all going to back up and lead to some troubling times When this all blows over its going to take even longer to get everything back up and running|1 So little story I was supposed to be going to the Bahamas in 2 weeks Free trip I earn from work I work in sales These two friends were telling me as of Monday Im crazy if I dont go Stop listening to the media hype I have always kept politics separate with them But I had to tell them this is very real Today they have dove in full with fear of whats going to happen One of them has repeatedly said why isnt president doing thing orthis He is going to kill people In an emergency like this Im not going to ask them if they plan to vote for Trump It I got the impression no|0 The virus has a better chance of survival if he is alive|1 If Israel banned travel to the US EL Al would be out of business|0 Im sure the family dog is in So that means the wife and one kid has got to go|1 Thats right nCOV is short for novel Corona|1 There are lots of people around with mild symptoms If the 80 mild case number is legit then this could be itNumbers given daily are cases with more severe symptoms which require hospital treatment government allowing it to quietly sweep through with the understanding that1 Most people will be fine maybe not even notice2 To contact trace and test everyone is impossible3 Treatment will be available for the most in need if the sevices are not clogged up with unnecessary testing and people who have tested positive sitting in hospitals with psychosomatic issuesImma take my tin foil hat off now feels weird|1 Ok gotcha I work in data analytics in health care I consider an emergency visit and an admission two very different things Thanks|1 Pretty sure GMM did an episode on YouTube with one of those Looks like ass but what do you expect out of a bucket of dehydrated food|1 He survived two plane crashes One plane landed on a deserted island and he landed the other in the Hudson I wonder if Wilson has the coronavirus too|1 Ugh Print them out the new cdc guidelines That is so frustrating|0 Its quick fix dopamine loops thats the issue not serotonin Without serotonin wed not get anything done and lay about until we died Similarly without dopamine our executive function would be shot and thered be little motivation to do anythingThe real problem is how weve shortcut natural paths to dopamine production leading us to need constant stimulation|0 BC is no longer testing young people or those without serious illness That is the opposite of what led South Korea to a successful containment strategy I wouldnt get your hopes up too high|1 I hope for a good recovery for them They do not look their ages at all|1 Klick and weve also published some of the policies to help other companieshttpscovid19klickcom|1 25 to 225 IS meaningful255 means that one person can infect about 100 people in 5 generations 510 weeks 2255 halves that number to about 50|1 I hope youre right|1 Im not a bio guy but Im fascinated by your line of work and wondering if you could humor me on a questionI understand how you go from sequence data through to protein sequences and then use the ML pipelines to predict the proteins geometricspatial structure I get it up until that point So I understand the left two columns in the table you linked to But how in the actual hell did you figure out the stuff in the rightmost column Protein name and function based on UniProt curation of SARSCoV proteomehttpswwwuniprotorgproteomesUP000000354 How did anyone infer this kind of stuff This virus was just discovered recently how have we assembled such detailed info on what individual proteins do|0 And in the US you get 12 weeks per year of leave if you qualify for FMLA to either recover from an illness or to care for a family member who is sick Which is unpaid and thus virtually no one uses it Short term disability insurance will cover your wage your family members wage while they care for you and a bunch of other stuffNo it will not depending on the plan you pay forIt should not depend on what you pay for it should be a basic human right|0 SK did A LOT of widespread tests from the beginning helping younger peoplealmost asymptomatic ones to stay alerted and aware and selfquarantined That plus the younger on average population is the differentiating factor here|1 Ive had it too Was sure I broke my ribs I was in so much pain but it was just a pulled muscle|0 It has a finite amount of energy and can only infect so many people|1 What the hell is going on with the CDC Do they think theyre a bank Good thing theres not a pandemic going on or anything SMFH I wish this administration would get its shit together before more people get sick andor die|0 I doubt this is more serious than common cold at this point|0 Were fine until we get uncontrolled community spread So far its just been spouses of the infected Its just a matter of time though I suppose|0 Whos more likely to be right WHO CDC the NHS 12 medical journals and your countrys chief medical officer who all agree with one another or uweamtotesdeadI love this and its a dose of reason that some corners of Reddit sorely need Thanks for doing the AMA|1 Yeah its a low bar but what should we do instead Criticize them saying that this should be a given Damned if you do damned if you dont|0 Im starting to hear more and more in the last week that sugar of all things is low in multiple Walmarts or Sams in the US and I find that intriguing and wondered the same thing Sugar is produced in large quantities all around the world but without doing any research Im going to take a guess that China produces the most and its also the cheapest making it a brilliant sucrose induced flame for the shit moth that is Walmart to swarm around If it can be made of carcinogenic material for lessWalmart will Buy ItIf it cuts costs of production at the risk of lives Walmart will Do ItKeep the prices Rollin back though yall|1 The richest will survive since theyve flown off to their private doomsday retreats in New Zealand|0 U can make 1 youself its much better than nothing It is preventive measure people need change their mind|1 I wear a P100 mask surgical gloves and have hand sanitizer on my person whenever I go out to public places grocery store mostly Can never be too careful|1 Only issue now is Im out of pokeballs and no option but to go out and get more|0 I think grave in Chinese translates to Recovered|0 This is a really good post ThanksIve been taking the equivalent of 40000 vitamin D a week for the past few years and have noticed that since then I havent really gotten any colds or such like I used to Living in the North East I used to get bad colds 23 times a year due to what was later diagnosed as a vitamin d deficiency Overloading vitamin D plus drinking many multi vitamin drinks a day with B and C and taking zinc supplements seems to have helped|1 Im about to just pull my son from school quit my job and stay home Fuck it|0 Its to avoid headlines of coronavirus breaking out in a WalMart so people dont boycott them nationwide out of fear|0 I cant even use two paid sick days at work without getting in trouble Theres no way my work will shutdown for 14 days|0 Well they both do tend to be very sensationalizing|1 The CDC was never great and has always been fairly incompetent|0 Given how infectious Coronavirus is and how long it can live on the air and on surfaces I dont think rural areas will be sparedTwo of Iowas positive cases are in a county with a population of 14000 people|1 Oh God what if Mother has it NOT MOTHER|1 1 Its cold as hell in Russia right now so people probably arent going out much and coming into contact with others limits spread2 Putins Russia is well known to misreport anything that makes it look weak on the world stage|0 Absolutely I dont even want to think of how gross the world would get without them|0 This isnt true but ok Custodial has an extra position now while on the job to wipe down surfaces|0 Im a truck driver used to be OTR but now deliver food to schoolsgrocery storesrestaurants theres no quarantine for me I also used to work with red Cross and delivered generators to North Carolina for that hurricane but my husband said I should stop because it was too dangerous shortly after I found a job working around my city|0 Downvotes mean nothing when therere so many trolls around You usually get more downvotes if you dont praise them their bosses|0 Exactly What do the people calling for lockdown think is going to happen after a few weeks If the lockdown succeeded and there are no new cases then very few people will be immune and when the lockdown ends it will all start again ad infinitumIt seems to me that people are in a state of denial and think that somehow we can avoid a large number of people getting it We cant All we can do is flatten the curveOK there might be some hope that we could avoid infection for long enough for a vaccine to be developed but that is likely more than a year away Any country that tries to lockdown for a year is going to have worse issues that a virus that kills 3 of the population|0 With China they had an excuse they didnt want to cause a mass panic Same with Iran and other lesser prepared states Politics muddles peoples perceptions but really what China did has some merit But ours arent just keeping us all out of the loop they refuse to even address it|1 Why America and Mexico didnt provide free masks for all world people when the h1n1 broken out There were more than 60 million people infected|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 One n95 to be used in am emergency situation|0 Imagine 20 of the work force calling out over a 30day period unable to come in Without even factoring in those who call out just to avoid getting sick or from a quarantine shelves wont get stocked deliveries wont get made payroll wont get submitted thats what you need to be worried about if youre healthy Such superfiscial thinking the secondary and tertiary problems to the outbreak should not be takeb lightly Its also very fucking selfish to say Im not worried you dont have elderly or immunocompromised people in your life you dont have family that wont be able to afford healthcare|0 so tax starts from 30 and above in proportion to income and then 1015 on GST so 45 taxed and we still have limited resources can someone explain to me please|1 The best is to stay in one place with same people and wait Stay in small communities and will be good I think traveling to home by all students would be stupid|1 Im sorry but its not going to just get better anytime soon the US hasnt even started their bad spot yet They keep shutting things down for a few weeks and its got people believing that the spring its just going to go away you need to still be safe and take precautions Im not a doomsdayer Im just seeing a lot of false blanket statements that could be misinformation|1 Seconded YOU WILL DIE is such an incredibly harmful message to send to an already panicking public Im all for being proactive but misrepresenting facts see 19 year olds being lumped into the same age bracket as 59 year olds only sews panic and discord Uncritical panicking people you will die messaging looting hoarding crime riots|0 Everyone liked that|1 Im in the position of most likely have it showing every symptom Fever for fours days so far cough heavy chest headache stiff neckbut I dont qualify for a test This shit is unreal|0 I called my mom to ask if my grandpa was staying inside after CDC said anyone over 60 shouldnt go out in public She called him Her message your grandson is worried about you in a laughing tone He went to a fucking casino that dayFuck me for giving shit Ha ha|1 These guys dont know what an actual third world country looks like I dont want to dismiss their financial concerns they are valid but the reality of the third world is very alien to the way of life in the US|1 If we stop having eyes and a mouth and nose we can stop this|0 Thanks Im full of good ideas Just gotta sort them out from all the bad ones lol|1 httpswwwnunlcoronavirus6036462steekproefpersoneelbrabantseziekenhuizen4procentheeftcoronavirushtmlhttpswwwnunlcoronavirus6036462steekproefpersoneelbrabantseziekenhuizen4procentheeftcoronavirushtml reports 4 infection rate for a wider selection of hospitals in the area This is actually a very well timed survey by the RIVM dutch CDC if they had done it much earlier they might not have detected any caseslater would also not have been very usefulRIVM has taken some criticism but this was well executed|1 Agreed Some people will chafe without their frenetic lifestyle going hither and yon all day It literally gives me agita to watch them or spend time with them|1 Given the freak out over Messonniers statement accusing her of being part of a conspiracy against the President I dont see how normalcy bias enters into it These arent normal times The world is lumbered with fragile needy autocrats called strongmen for no damned good reason who are addicted to happy talk and obsessed with image management above all else What we saw with Ebola was a bunch of trained professionals working their ass off to protect the world They succeeded And their urgency told us the threat was real But now we have the perfect storm of real threats and real idiotshttpswwwvoxcom20203521166093coronaviruscovidtrumpresponsefoxnews By itself the virus is another toothpick We could take it But we are compromised|0 Hopefully they put a stop to this thing before it come there|1 Hahahaha you have no idea|0 Were only now beginning to feel the effects of the 2month shutdown There was a lag in the supply chain that is just catching up with us|0 Children spread viruses extremely quickly and they pass to everyone in the family We know we could reduce bacterial pneumonia among the elderly if we instead vaccinated children for it We dont do this because the benefit does not accrue to the person vaccinated|1 Heres the history I have compiled so farJan 24 Case 1 50s Chinese F Case 2 50 yo Taiwanese M Total 2Jan 26 50yo F location Northern Taiwan Total 4 cases TW imposes restrictions on entry of Chinese citizenshttpswwwcdcgovtwEnBulletinDetailAbXx37glDFCRtGihlDGOmAtypeid158httpswwwcdcgovtwEnBulletinDetailAbXx37glDFCRtGihlDGOmAtypeid158Jan 27 Imported case 50yo F location middle part of Taiwan Total 5Jan 28 Two 70 yo Females Wuhan residents tourists Male 50s location middle part of Taiwan Family member of case 5 household transmission Total 8 confirmed casesJan 30 household transmission wife of case Total 9Jan 31 One new case husband of case 9 Location unknown Total 10Diamond Princess port of call in Keelung Unknown number of passengers disembark for sightseeting inaround Keelung and Taipei areaFeb 05 Male 50s evacuee from Wuhan No fever pneumonia or complications Location unknown Total 11Feb 06 Two new cases male 40s female 20s Location northern Taiwan Total 13Feb 07 New case 1 and new Case 2 are married in Northern Taiwan in 50s Case 3 female 40s location southern Taiwan Total 16Feb 08 Male 20s son of case 1 and case 2 traveled with them to Italy and transited through Hong Kong Location unknown Total 17Feb 09 Male 20s another son of new case 1 and new case 2 Total 18Feb 10 Total confirmed 18 all in stable condition All hospitalized except case 1Feb 16 M in 60s case 19 no recent intl travel no known contact with confirmed COVID019 cases M in 50s case 20 member of case 1s family Asymptomatic Total 20TW CDC announced that severe complicated influenza cases reported by healthcare facilities onafter January 31 that tested negative for influenza to be tested for COVID19 starting February 12Feb 17 F in 80s case 21 and M in 30s case 22 both family members of case 19 and 20 part of a family cluster Total 22Feb 19 Case 23 60yo F younger sister of case 19 Total 23Feb 19 Case 24 60s yo F northern Taiwan with no international travel in the past 2 years Total 24Feb 20 Confirmed case19 linked to Taiwanese businessman returning from Zhejiang China through viral antibody testing Total 24Feb 21 Daughter case 26 F in 40s and granddaughter case 25 20 yo F of case 24 Case 26 and 24 lived together and case 25 visited case 24 in the hospital Case 26 did not have fever or respiratory symptoms but sought medical attention February 9 and February 13 for having acid reflux symptoms Total 26Edit added Feb 1621 updates|0 Man my Chinaborn mum has been saying that Chinese news now say that the virus might have originated from the US Shes super proChina and shit and believes that only information that comes from the Chinese government is real and that anything I read from online news or reddit are Americans trying to frame Chinamake China look bad|0 FYI httpswwwdicardiologycomcontentesccouncilhypertensionsaysaceiandarbsdonotincreasecovid19mortality|1 Whats sad and I can already see happening is if through all the governmental efforts and efforts of people that are doing their bit that we manage to hold Covid19 at bay until it whittles off all those people who think its just the flu will turn around at the end and say see told ya nothing bad happened it was just a flu|0 Its towards the bottom of the page but it breaks down each of the different demographics When it analyzes age it compares the different generations The older the generation the more republican support Keep in mind that older people vote more often than younger people too Sourcehttpswwwpeoplepressorg201803201trendsinpartyaffiliationamongdemographicgroups|1 Before test kits the max capacity was 500 tests a dayAfter test kits it might have increased a lot but I hear they are running low on test kits rn|0 Super fair|1 Respiratory therapy student here Im on my lunch break now and was just talking to a fellow RT student who continues to say we dont even have any antibiotics for it or nothing despite me already having corrected her that antibiotics dont work for viruses She also said its just like the flu I dont know why people are so worried I tried explaining that if the predictions are correct 4060 of the country or world gets it over the next year with 30 of them needing hospitalization that that is a major problem MAJOR Even if its all the VERY elderly who are affected they take up hospital beds that are already filled to capacity during flu season and then OTHER people who need treatment for|0 Yeah these companies need to be forced to expand capacity and PUMP these out Im surprised|1 dunno why ur getting downvoted but its possible im just saying less likely than france Personally i wud prefer a total travel ban internationally and knock down all local clusters like singapore|0 Netherlands I assume from your post historyThe situation is the same in Sweden Preschools schools and universities are being kept open I understand the reasoning for keeping schools open for kids so that parents with essential jobs like doctors and nurses dont have to take time off work to stay at home with their kids but there really is no excuse to not shut down the universities at this point And if youre over say 12 years old you can stay home by yourself perfectly fine|1 It depends very much on medical care receivedIf the system gets overwhelmed 20 die|0 Mullein is the best The leaves are huge soft and hairy so they are super aborbent Mulberry and sycamore are okay in a pinch|1 Im not sure about South Korea but I watched a few live videos of people being wielded shut in apartments dying on hospital floors and other things in Wuhan when the rest of the world didnt care Im sure some of that evidence is still out there But here in America No try that in Texas or Chicago and you would need much more than the National Guard China went extreme to contain the virus Too much democracy around these parts lol|0 Enjoy the declineThe West is fucked and there aint no saving herLet her get fucked its what she wants|0 they dont want to further damage the economy|0 Cremation is forbidden in Islam|0 my parents have a scheduled Mediterranean cruise in a month with multiple stops in Italy They dont know how its going to play out or if they will even be able to dock in most places Unless the cruise gets cancelled it might be a boring trip They booked it well before the outbreak|0 Its good advice but youre describing the benefit a bit too generallyIt doesnt reduce the risk by 19 for everyone and for some the reduction in risk is even greater as much as 70 for those with severe Vitamin D deficiency according to the study I imagine youre referring to|1 dailymailcouk news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 All the coronavirus science was behind a paywall and cost money now its free For everyoneYou can read every detail of the petition and all updates herehttpswwwchangeorgCOVID2019httpswwwchangeorgCOVID2019You can access many of the latest articles herehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovresearchcoronavirushttpswwwncbinlmnihgovresearchcoronavirus|1 South Korea the EU and the United States are also sizable contributorsOr maybe they just really felt like being honest all of a sudden|1 This is exactly correct Testing rate hasnt gone up so you expect a flattening of new cases You may see some wobble but the absolute number will sit around a top point It doesnt meant the rate of infection is slowing unless your test rate is growing with your infection count Which it has NOT in Italy|1 Sorry I dont know what happened What does the gag order mean and why did she violate it|0 My husband kept fb for this reason It is literally the only way he can talk with his aunt who doesnt own a phone and travels extensively she is often in central America or Africa doing missionary type workHis solution from the madness was to delete everyone else so there is no bullshit just a way to keep in touch with her|0 that is correct summary but the article failed to mention it is Wuhan City government only and it is an addition to everything else also they mention dr Li Wen Liang in the article but didnt mention Dr Lis compensation is 821k RMB from Wuhan City government and 1 million RMB from China Red Cross special funding for outbreak medical workers and his family will receive more from special outbreak insurance china issued to all medical workers etc|1 Dude take a leave It is not worth it|0 Yeah I work at a Taco Bell thats not happening|1 in fact flu is also infectious before symptoms but only for a day or something incubation period is much lowerand regarding tamiflu i didt much follow that pandemic back then yes when it reached us tamiflu was already applied as a treatment but when exactly does it happen i mean maybe the same thing gonna happen with remdesevir which is under clinical trials now|1 A major flaw in the study is from their source data A total 318 51 of all confirmed cases were asymptomatic when the respiratory specimen was collectedhttpswwwniidgojpniiden2019ncove9417coviddpfe02html There seems to have been no follow up on whether they had symptoms later Furthermore they tested the oldest people first Due to the number of persons on board these efforts began with passengers over 80 then over 75 then over 70 etc So maybe the elderly had a tendency to get tested during their incubation period but the younger ones had time for symptoms to develop|0 Corona virus Parry this you fucking Casual|1 People keep saying shit like this but what the hell are we supposed to do when we have jobs to go to and bills to pay Not all of us have office jobs that we can do from home|0 Ugh One of my friends was bragging about going out last night in Colorado where the cases are exploding He said it was awesome and I was like nah more like idiotic|1 after we murder all the birds|0 Good man|1 You might have get through to people if you share this with people that you know Its a peerreviewed study that shows the kids are vulnerable to severe infection less than adults obviouslyhttpspediatricsaappublicationsorgcontentpediatricsearly20200316peds20200702fullpdf|0 No they wont lol|0 Impressive quarantine length|1 Yeah the whole field of epidemic modelling doesnt existWhere is the science to support the governments policy I want specific papers not yeah the whole field of epidemic modelling Of course the field of epidemic modelling exists I want you to provide scientific evidence to support the governments position|1 if there were many positive results their daily work would be affected A bunch of workers dying slowly in an office environment does seem to have an impact on those workers yes|1 This is why it is absolutely necessary to maintain some type of savings if you live in the US Even if you can only have a savings account with 100 in it that alone can keep a person from going hungry if shit hits the fan|0 Call to reschedule this resets the 24 hour purchase window they have to get a full cash refund Then call the next morning and cancel|0 Perhaps it will be confirmed with the 2pm announcement I was doubtful at first but it is on the schools official Facebook and in the local press httpswwwbuxtonadvertisercouknewspeoplederbyshireschoolcloseddeepcleanafterconfirmedcasecoronavirus1999274|0 I will be messaging you in 6 months on 20200730 045213 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202007302004521320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsevz3fothesearepeoplenotjustnumbersffz0c0pcontext36 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17708 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices190610 uLibertyordeath1214 at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 He comes as close to saying that as they will allow They will listen soon I hope|1 Yes this Hospitals do not usual keep enough staff to cover the amount of beds they have Wherever I have worked when all the beds were full we were understaffed On a normal day in a hospital everything there are already minor drug shortages staff shortages laundry shortages equipment shortages and other shortages The point being hospitals do not have much reserves for emergencies|0 OH SHIT GUYS ITS TRASH CAN MAN FROM THE STAND were fucked|0 Yes its the same bs being circulated They are talking about the set fund that was setup for the Division of Global Health Protection which ran out and was not renewed by Congress You can tell it is bs because the funding was slated to run out in October of 2019 and the only thing that happened in 2018 was a slew of articles about how the funding was going to run outOne of the articles in questionhttpseditioncnncom20180203healthcdcslashesglobalepidemicprogramsoutrageindexhtmlThe goal of the CDCs Center for Global Health is to stop outbreaks at their source long before they reach the United States The organization monitors 30 to 40 outbreaks in other countries every day and it has trained more than 10000 disease detectives in more than 70 countries according to its websiteThe initiative was begun during Friedens tenure and funded for five years ending in October 2019|1 Crazy thing is that my boyfriend and his family know someone who presented with symptoms and was admitted to the hospital but they STILL wont test her because she has no history of travel and hasnt come into contact with anyone who has tested positive for coronavirus when we know that so many people are going untested and several people are asymptomatic The way that so many places are going about this is so bizarre|0 Thanks for that I never found it hard to ride around downtown at all|1 If you go to college you arent going to be the one working at a slave workshop but if that job exists for someone who didnt go to college maybe didnt even finish high school then that person will earn an income They will spend that income on things and the economy will move better and faster The current alternative is that person doesnt have a job because that job is being done in China so the unemployed person earns and spends your money|1 Well if the other choice is death|0 What countrycompany Im in the UK and due to go in May 2020 with my family All paid been told that if I movecancel Ill have to pay eyewatering amounts insurance is no help either as no pandemic cover didnt even know that was a thing The only way I will get a refund is if the UK government ban outbound flights |0 Wow the world is about to change big time|1 Question from europe do US citiziens have to pay for tests|0 Especially when there have been reports that the true death toll in Iran is at least 34 times greater than what the official number states|1 Assuming that usa has not totally failed to start testing on time|1 Wow I might actually be able to play it since I could never travel since I wasnt a rich kid with a data plan|1 I think this is rather dishonest analysis placing undo blame on the current administration The CDC has a very long history of prioritizing antipanicmessaging over honesty and information dissemination That anyone in the upper echelons would break this trend now is de facto evidence of bias against the administration Apparently what it takes to get someone at the CDC to be honest is seething hatred for the president Maybe next the CIA will install a democracy in South America just to spite Trump|0 lmao Ive lived in third world war torn countries tell me more about how bad you have it in your white middle class communityx200BIm so sorry your white middle class life is so difficult while the global poor are dying of starvation and working 18 hour shifts to make your leisure goods that you take for granted Are you typing your response on your slave made Phone Are you browsing the internet on your slave made computer x200BIll make sure to tell those dying of starvation about how hard you have it|0 Remember that one person that literally infected hundreds A living proof|0 He blocked oversight into his interactions with Russia if Im not mistaken Smells like fish|0 These idiots are why we need rules like this|1 Happy cake day|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Yeah This is a demonstration of how the GOPs government usually operates in an emergency badly slowly stupidly|0 Only in the countryside Most people live in apartment buildings so they would use ac units electric or gas central heating or electric induction heatersEdit a lot of folks dont use much heating actually My family and many like mine wear thick pyjamas at home which is oftentimes enough|1 I almost wonder how it would be if every country in the world mandated that everyone stay home for 14 days minimum with medical teams travelling around to sick people and what that would do for the virus|0 Please make a bridge now to countries who are infected the most AS OPEN BORDERS ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH JUSTICE TO CANADIANS|0 Do you have a source for this Im not doubting you I simply want to see the details medical bills are civil debts therefore people can not be sent to jail for failing to pay them Now if you write a bad check to pay a bill you can end up in jail that way So I am curious how this whole situation played out as it isnt legalEdit To say that it is actually ILLEGAL to even threaten jail time over debt|0 thank you |1 Criminals policing themselves is a joke|0 The proverbial silver lining Or has the Earth started fighting back|0 There are alot of people in this world who unfortunately are not in their right mind as you put it|0 Theyre not so bad |1 Agreed We still use the same cotton wipes from our first kid If theres one thing Im glad we didnt buy it was them We tried reusablewashable nappies worked for a while until we started getting explodypoos Then they just went in the bin amongst gagging|1 When looking at these percentages its important to remember the US has an older and less healthy eg overweight population We know critical cases are heavily weighted towards those over 65 As an indication Population over 65yrs in Hubei China 10 USA 16 UK 18 Italy 23 |0 Neither of us has the authority to allow or disallow anything so it doesnt really matter what either of us think My point was that the flu didnt wipe out economies in the way you stated|0 Its like someone harassing a Costco employee I know you keep more in the back as she looks at a 50 high rack stacked with pallets|0 Pritzker said they can now but there was some kind of injunction preventing it that the administration is no longer enforcing He was really frustrated said now they can develop their own tests but its too late because so many people are already infected and spreading it around OH governor said something similar today I think I honestly think Trump just wanted to keep the numbers down|0 Her children her responsibility to ask Ive made it clear and demonstrated Id help her out in a jam Mom was just the easiest and default solution I do admire shes a nurse and she will be needed more in our area very soon but the selfish tag was not just for this incident aloneEdit jeez if Im not made aware the kid is sick how could I have offered Her kids her responsibility to inform us Also dont you think Ive offered since finding out she was watching the kidsEdit Reminder that even healthy looking kids are carriers The exact point made in the parent commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgcxvacanceleverythingfk3ts37utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf So sick or not|0 Try not to worry so much this has been done to help you If it helps Ive done the same so youre not alone|1 Thank you Yes I spoke to the office pharmacy They had faxed my dr He returned the favour saying I have to go see him Hes an hour away and his clinic is closed and canceled all appointments My only option is to wait in a crowded walkin clinic and hope I dont catch this btch Cry|1 Literally just filled a script for a patient that was denied a test although his PCP ordered it and sent home with Tamiflu this makes me sick|0 the reactors werent very dangerous though Chernobyl created a lot of scaremongering and unfortunatelly set the discussion back two decades but its important to note that the reason the reactor exploded was that they intentionally disabled safety procedures to experiment with it Furthermore to this day it is the only nuclear reactor disaster that has resulted in radiation leak despite them selling these reactors to many countries|0 Just thinking out loud but in addition to this potential nicotine effect would the PG propylene glycol also help kill viruses on the surfaces of the lungs Or would that effect be negligible because most of the viruses are too deep inside cellstissuesIm considering switching from 5050 PGVG to pure PG nic for this reason|0 Cause our healthcare isnt any better than many other countries|0 price gouging is actually just a proper response to increased demandthe alternative is the price is fixed artificially low and people buy more than they need they sell out faster and people who show up later cant buy any So you end up with some people having more masks or water sanitizer etc than they need and others not having any at allpricegouging is just natural rationing It ensures that its not just first come first serve or that people dont hoard supplies|1 To me poor knowledge and poor understanding of disease and contamination among the masses is the biggest threat I also expect significant problems arising from selfish scared ignorant and undisciplined people ignoring advice or rules enforced for containmentI dont follow the details closely but my perception is that this virus could have been a much larger issue already if it wasnt for the limiting measures taken I see the whole thing as a partial success so far Global civilization is a mess but quite a few things work surprisingly smoothly|0 Sure blame people for not living their life like something terrible is going to happen the next day I find this mentality hard to understand|0 That was when we were unaware World governments are now working 100 to stop the spread and putting all their resources into stopping this unlike China when it first began Its sooooo different for the rest of the world now than it was for China You ARE irrationally fear mongering Saying were so fucked based on this information is nonsense Its the type of statements people were saying during Ebola and Swine Flu that now gets looked back on as irrational panic|0 Well that requires a lot of plasma More than donors can afford|1 I agree my 3 yr old had strep over the weekend confirmed strep and her fever was 105 the first day and lingered near 103104 for a day or two after|1 Vinegar will not kill the virus|1 They got very close to a SARS vaccine before the demand for it vanished|0 They might need to make up kits like some US grocery stores do at thanksgiving 2 rolls of toilet paper soap dried beans rice peanut butter cheese 1 gallon of milk a loaf of bread oatmeal a dozen eggs a selection of canned frozen or fresh fruits and vegetables etc A separate line limit 1 Anything else take your chances in the store|1 I am have been for 2 weeks now because im severe immune compromised Not city very rural area in the country|0 I dont know and thats why Im upset I want the school admin to either have quarantine them or told us why they didnt need to maybe went to different region Its like the trip didnt happen I see the foreign language dept posting pics from other places they went but no one is mentioning the Italy trip and Friday they were showing pics from the trip on the school site and I asked where and someone said northern and today its like not a whisper of Italy in the buildingI asked a few people and everyone oh I dont know Oh ok who does then Im assuming the parents of the students who went would be causing a stink since they know where they were but this is also a city of lots of dual income high earners who would rather send to school than try to deal with alternative care granted high school doesnt need sitter but I bet if they shut the high school down or quarantined those kids other people would be concerned about the rest of the schools since those who went likely have younger siblings at the elementary schools whove been in close quarters with those who went know what I mean|1 As an asthmatic Ontarian I can confirm this is reassuring news|1 I just dont realized you wrote Few examples include and thought the text is your believe Until I saw that link and thought huh why would someone use that as reason to not panic haha|1 Mechanical ambu bag Cheap easily accessible and effective If it comes down to makeshift treatment wards with 100 beds could easily be hooked up and distributed per patient Hmmanother sleepless night figuring the componentsany ideasFeds should definitely be having DME companies calling all of their clients to recover excess or unused oxygen supplies though for sure Hopefully there is some sort of protocol or plan in place that has not been activated yetfingers crossed on that one Seems WashingtonCDC were just going to let it spread into the thousands and then blame it on just a really bad flu season HA Severely underestimated this unfortunately for thousands if not millions by the end of this year Troubled times unlike anything weve ever endured yet|0 Its just a flu|0 China after waking up was literally throwing medical equipment out of its factories by the second the west Italy in this case doesnt have the same capacity They are most likely cutting corners in mask and other protective materials usage|0 Thank you|1 That may explain why some estimates for R0 are low and others are high and why some clusters are more explosive than others|0 As I work at one I know its not true so|0 If you were carrying the flu virus for example but suffered no symptoms would you say that you have the fluI mean yes|0 I think its a ridiculous thought that people assume food will run out They wont starve people to death instead of the virus kiling them Other countries are seemingly willing to help as well|0 If you are knowingly sick and go outside you should be finedimprisoned They do this in Singapore and its effective to no ones surprise|0 Incubation seems to be mostly 57days Thats not too bad Besides we know how that asymptomatic spreading isnt a big issueBut yeah the problem is that many people ignore the symptoms for a while because they arent too incapacitating or even fairly mild in some cases|0 Only Pence is in charge nationwide instead of just Indiana Great idea that Why put scientists in charge of the pandemic response when a sciencedenier is available |1 Itchy Tasty|0 Convinced that this will all lead to trump trying to Postons or cancel the November elections|1 Agreed Can anyone explain what are the practical consequences of this|1 Taiwan banned flights from China almost immediately and they are enforcing quarantines on anybody coming from a country that has an outbreak The last 4 cases in Taiwan have all been those returning from Europe One was a KLM pilot|0 Except Wuhan had this exact same issue not enough test kits and many were not being tested and sent home Yet their death rate remained low Still doesnt add up no matter how you shake it|0 Your friends are NOT accurate sources|1 Yeah totally first case|1 Retail position with low wagesunlimited paid sick days with no doctors note requiredYeah sorry but this shits gonna get abusedI wont lie if this was 10 years ago in my younger university party days working retailId abuse the shit out of it more than urogersimon10 gets abused by his dads jumper cables|0 You know I may be a Trump supporter but damn was he lying and damn did he look like he knew it|0 Some people are saying its the best authority anyones ever seen possibly in all of history|1 The virus is most persistent in lower temperatures ie under room temperatures|0 All countries have University and nonuniversity hospitals including the US This is a common theme within the US as well where you will see that kind of variation as well so no still doesnt quite help your argument As you are asserting a systematic difference in overall vent management between the US and nonUS institutions Its also clear from the very article you cited that nonUS institutions are indeed using lung protective ventilationI also wont tout a nonuniversity hospital as the gold standard of care of any given country|1 Doubtful the sickness is different than the flu it last much longer and this disease didnt really get going even in China until DecemberBut if youre right that means its way more widespread than we think which is actually kind of good news because things arent that bad I however dont think youre right and there will be no denying it when this thing does spread more into areas|0 Its still just the flue More than half the people out there still dont care Especially the college kids because this only effects the old Oh were also Overreacting Theyll all learn soon enough I think more states need to call a state of emergency and close down these gatherings|0 Who ever said unless your a billionaire you cannot be electedNo one here ever said that Look at the politics sub almost no one at all likes bloomberg and hes outspent everyone else by atleast a factor of 4|1 Lol why not|1 Doesnt make sense to decouple from China if anything its going to make ties closer as theyve demonstrated how fast they can control disease and get back up and running while rest of world is running around like headless chickenLuckily Chinese are ramping back up and should be closer to capacity in next few weeks and be able to export badly needed supplies to rest of worldImagine if manufacturing was mostly in states or Europe Well be fucked|0 oh i was gonna ask for the link Thanks a lot|1 I totally agree with you I decided to make this mask for my family free pattern here httpswwwcraftpassioncomwpjsonmvcreatev1creations19printInstead of an insert I am going to sew this activated carbon cloth inside which is used in respirators and chemical warfare It is PRICEY but I figure it is worth it The entire mask will be washable It is recommended that one use washing soda and wash it by hand httpswwwbuyactivatedcharcoalcomactivatedcharcoalodoreliminatorproductsactivatedcarbonclothaccwovenactivatedcarbonclothdoubleweavehtmlI was also wondering if this airconditioner filter material might work for a temporary insert httpswwwamazoncomFiltreteConditioner15Inch24Inch980812dpB000BO96IW|1 Lol or assuming this jurisdiction is similar to my own wait until HR has the epiphany about the risk of all the potential toxic exposure comp claims coming their way Even if every claim was frivolousnot meritorious its an asinine amount of to defend and makes securing future comp insurance a nightmare|1 Meanwhile here in Germany ppl are still arguing whether it is necessary to ban largescale gatherings of over 1000 ppl As a Chinese working in Germany who came back from China on 1 Feb I am feeling really scared|0 Me too please|1 If I had liquid funds Id buy a bit at every drop Theyll be back to todays standing in a year Im tied up in Teslas swings right now|0 So you are gonna pay their bills right|0 Soylent is still shipping at least You can get a seven day supply of the powder for 52 if you subscribe and theyre doing free shipping at the moment|1 if everyone is quarantined to their homes like China why does it matter how much you not talk about prepsIts not like theyre going to come over to you and kick in your door Theyre quarantined Doing weird stuff like going to other homes would be noticed and get them arrested|1 Slick like oil|1 I say if you can manage having children at home now then take them out now Please dont wait for the government|1 This is why the let it burn strategy is fool hardy There is absolutely no reason they couldnt quarantine like China is doing in an attempt to slow down the pace If they let it burn we will be overwhelmed by the end of the summer Whats even more frustrating is that we have Korea as a model to watch All we need to do is delay for a few weeks or months Not only will that give our medical establishment time to prepare we can learn lessons from Korea If we just let it burn though we will lose any chance of slowing the pace|0 So you dont think it is an appropriate measure to quarantine an area where a giant increase in infections has occurred Lmao would you rather them run around spreading out to other areas Your mentality is similar to WHO and its because of that mentality it has now spread to the level that it has People are going to be escaping a military quarantine I dont think you fully understand how a military quarantine works Using airports to scan for people who could be asymptomatic is again the dumbest fucking move in all of history People at airports are constantly in a rush and they will not be truthful out of fear if they have the virus or if they miss their flight and airport security can not pick up asymptomatic persons Airports are one of the worst places for transmission on a international scale This is why you quarantine an area and set up zones for those that are infected possibly infected and that are clean You set up another quarantine around the original quarantine to prevent people for escaping to further keep a barrier from the infection and incase infected got in with the clean population This isnt inhumane its common sense You dont just leave people to die like the CCP is doing by welding people in their homes you bring supplies in that have been verified to be clean and have medical personnel start testing and treating the sick while simultaneously keep those that are positively infected away from presumed and possible cases Every single damn country is going to start banning flights to hotspots because its common sense|0 Same question here As someone who is living alone I am not sure if I can handle this without any assistance from other people|0 But that would be a slippery slope towards universal healthcare and mandated sick leave|0 Since you have the flu you should probably NOT visit your parents tomorrow honestly|1 Most of the people who are rich are old They are going to wish that the government was more on the ball Stocks dont do you much good when you arent breathing|1 So they are making you work remotely but still come into the office Thats like the worst of both worlds|0 Italy banned travel from China early on Is that the sort of preventative action youre looking for|0 thanks your words really helps at this time hope itll get better for everyone in the world|1 Yep same Got a bunch of canned goods too I figure even if nothing ends up happening its not like theyll go bad If anything I can donate them if we dont end up using anything|0 Damn it dropped around 4 in the last half hour while Trump was giving a press conference on the Coronavirus That was BAD|0 you get what you deserve Joker|1 He may be nervous due to being on cameras All people get so except experienced actors and showmen|0 Trumps normal MO would be to make NY suffer as much as possible for trying to hold him accountable for his crimes Anyone want to bet thats what happens here|0 Depending on what happens it might be your best bet Good luck to you and your family Enjoy South Africa|1 Definitely not gonna cut it There will be many more cases here in USA than South Korea Containing it like they did is not a possibility anymore Especially when people are acting like its a basic flu Hopefully we dont break Chinas s but I wouldnt bet on it|1 It was his attempts to price gouge his fellow citizens in times of emergency that got him in trouble not the purchasing of the products|0 I bet youre one of those people that complains when you get silver|0 Press X to doubt|0 yeah there has been no good response to this at all by any group or party back in january when it was containable shutting down travel was politically impossible because it would be perceived as xenophobic and would have caused a market crash now all of that happened anyway people are still in denial and blaming each other its been a great team effort to muff this up|1 Youre completely right however with the numbers being so much higher than flu and this thing causing so much pneumonia and ARDS its really frightening If we had any kind of herd resistance itd be a different story but so many who get exposed get infected|0 somebody else provided a translation I havent verified but they claim its talking about public transportationEven if that is correct I do think the USAs lack of a public health system will screw Americans|0 The herd immunity story is misinterpreted Herd Immunity is a consequence of vast community spread not a goal of the UK government Like other governments they are all trying to flatten the curve|1 I hope youre right|1 I dont know it doesnt say I suspect the cheaper gels are stronger in alcohol With the fancier brands you buy often having perfume or other agents I wonder if TCP or Dettol will kill it I guess bleach does|0 Yes but that has nothing to do with the mask working or not It always works Its just some people need it more than othersBut rather than tell the truth and ask people to make a very small sacrifice for someone elses big benefit they tried this absurd lie that it doesnt work for some but does for others Which is insulting|1 Obama really fucked this one up eh s|0 This was a case of him plain not wanting to do his job If someone else had willingly done this much harm to America wed call them a terrorist|0 If he truly hasnt gotten tested I hope he does soon|1 My daughter has so many Chinese friends at her school in the UK They are lovely kids and so desperately worried about their families back home I cant imagine how they must feel hearing stories like this Just heartbreaking|1 I know but Im sure the US institutions are stronger than Trump I wish him enough wisdom to realise how serious the situation is|1 This is not boding well for my plan to escape on foot to the wild north But speaking from personal experience my immune system seemed to protect me well when I would run 8 miles a day I can imagine going to 25 a day and the immune system would still be able to handle it|1 I work with a lot of startups and many are in dire straits Most are not profitable yet and are cutting staff and costs like paid marketing just to stay afloat Very difficult to raise money right now Many startups will be shutting down in the coming months and POOF there go employee stock and options So yeah fuck these huge corporations that could have been fiscally responsible but spent all their cash on exec bonuses and stock buybacks|1 Youre an awful person|0 They reckon surfaces hold the infection for between hours and days FYI|1 Ebola had high lethality but low transmission Covid has three times higher mortality rate than flu with 100 times higher rate of transmission|0 I fail to see how spraying a jet of water on your feces to create an aerosolized mist of viral particles that will then settle onto all of the surfaces in the bathroom is more hygienic than simply enclosing the viral particles in toilet paper and flushing them down the toilet|0 My close family member and friend has her bachelorette in two weeks the plan is to rent an Air bnb in a party part of our city to spend a full weekend in with all of her friends most of whom are nurses They also intend to go out to clubs and bar hop I have several severe health problems that put me at increased risk for illness including an undiagnosed lung issue my doctors thought was young adult onset cystic fibrosis I got a message from the maid of honor yesterday saying I needed to RSVP immediately I have NO idea how to tell my family member I wont be there I feel like my family will hate me foreverHer wedding is in mid April and many people are supposed to be traveling to our area for it Im terrified in addition to my health issues I have a mother with Lupus and a brother with a seizure disorder and brain and kidney tumors Our grandparents are in poor health as well Part of the reason I pray testing kits are truly coming is because I want my extended family to start taking it seriously and cancel It breaks my heart but it needs to happen|0 It is antibiotics that dont work on people anymore because strains become resistant as you said Its medically inappropriate and theres a huge push to stop it I have 160 doctors at my clinic who we are retraining with the help of AHRQ and the feds|1 Get out of here with your rationale and logic Im entitled to waving my pitchfork about|1 How come the richest country in the world can mess up this so badly|0 Fuck|0 It makes sense PCR would potentially be more sensitive but given how prone to false negatives most protocols have demonstrated to be wed need some solid data on this ASAP|1 These are times that we need STRONG leaders I think everyone is especially scared because there is no leader in the White House Everyone who has stepped up as a leader at this time Dr Anthony Fauci state governors Gov Cuomo of NY medical professionals should be applauded History will look back on them favorably|1 Theres not a massive difference to be honest its more that the speed of this outbreak has been faster so the subs have grown much more quickly which has been tough on everyone and also that its more closer to the Englishspeaking internet using world so more people are genuinely worriedinterested and wanting to come here rebola had about 14000 subs at its height rcoronavirus hit 100000 a couple of days ago The nature of the conversation is the same though conspiracy theories seem to follow the same patterns such as 1 What dont you like The Chinese Eating Animals Bill Gates Blame it for coronavirus 2 Its a bioweapon nb its not 3 Its all a plot by Donald TrumpBatmanPutinThe CPP to do whatever you dont want them to The same general questions come up can I catch it from my dog On a bus In a swimming pool and the same general discussion what should I stockpile Should I travel So the kind of conversations are the same but keeping on top of them is harder because of the volume Like SARSCov2 itself really I dont think reddit or anything else prevents officials from delivering proper information I still dont think official agencies use social media enough I also think that most people are sensible enough to be able to sort the truth from the misinformation and mistakes people who want to find a conspiracy will find one people who dont wont just blindly accept that China has released a genetically engineered bioweapon on the world because why actually Ive missed that part of the conspiracy theory A study Id really like to do at some point is actually see not what conspiracy theories are circulated but a how many people believe them and b why We sort of looked at this in our paper on incorrect information online here httpswwwjmirorg20161e4 but not in the detail Id like Most people arent stupid but I think the mainstream media and politicians like to think theyre fooled by fake news because otherwise theyd have to accept that people voted for Donald Trump and Brexit because they wanted to and if they want them to vote a different way they might have to actually engage with them listen to their concerns and address them Much easier to just call them stupid and attack a technology that provides access to all the knowledge in the world to them You know not to believe everything you read on reddit dont you As for assessing official reports just ask who the experts are Whos more likely to be right WHO CDC the NHS 12 medical journals and your countrys chief medical officer who all agree with one another or uweamtotesdead who has a two week posting history and thinks were paid by the CPP The official organisations all have their emergency plansresponse procedures on line so take a look at them Its in any countrys interests even evil dictatorships and gulp communists to keep their population as healthy as possible and not stand by while society breaks down One thing you could do is look at histories of past outbreaks such as the 191819 Influenza epidemic which is the one thats probably going to end up being most similar in terms of number and severity of cases How did society cope What happened The fact that all that happened was that a few more people than usual died of flu means that there werent riots in the streets mass starvations because food systems had broken down etc Older colleagues and relatives of mine talked about remembering their school closing during the 50s and 60s outbreaks but not about that nice family of 6 in Acacia Avenue who all died within a week of one another or Swanage descending into cannibalism when there were no workers for the harvest Thats probably a good place to start for keeping things in proportion|0 Looks like I suddenly have free time|1 IIRC he potentially lied about being expelled from Iran lied about his identification papers being stolen and refused help from potential countries for ID papers Kind of asked to stay there IMO|0 Its against my policy to trust|1 At least in GermanyEurope those terms are fully synonymous I am a bit cautious to say that in general because at times trivial names mean different things in different places in particular in the USSee also httpsenwikipediaorgwikiGlycerolthere Glycerol lsrl5 also called glycerine or glycerin is a simple polyol compound It is a colorless odorless viscous liquid that is sweettasting and nontoxic|0 It doesnt though Yes anyone arriving from the EU has to show a passport at the border but any European can come here visa free without notice A German for example can enter the UK as easily as he can enter France as long as he shows a passport so in terms of the spread of the virus the UK is no different from the Schengen zone Flights are still arriving from the EU constantly without any extra checks at the border Also many EU countries have less cases of Coronavirus at the moment than the UK|1 Lol wowthat right there just shows how brainwashed those people are|1 Same in Canada must say though now that Im an adult who has to commute not having to drive through 6 inches of snow is pretty nice|1 Ill do 365 days of Soylent tinned fish and olive medley if you ask nicely or my doors and windows are duct taped shut Then you be rude AF and Ill still do it|0 Shits expensive whats a doctor going to do|0 I couldnt agree with this more They work bloody hard and are around so many people putting themselves at risk|0 I met her a few months ago giving a tour at my job They did the same thing to us|1 A teleprompter and a prepared speech would have been a good start What he said was not as important as showing a sign organization control and preparation What we got was a rambling mess from someone who looked less like a leader and more like loser|1 Their punishment would be more overtime s|0 I think Wired is missing the point People need to be alert not alarmed in most areas of the world right now Chances ARE much higher that youll get the flu right now if unvaccinated Panicked populations are only going to overload the medical systems and take resources away from people who actually have nCoV|0 I cant believe people want this Its hard enough being romantically involved with one person let alone wanting an open relationship like in a damn business Come on INtake a number Todays special coronavirus|1 How exactly would rich people pay for testing in Norway Youre being ridiculous he was tested due to spending time with a confirmed coronapositive person which can be explained by celebs travelling a lot and having a large social circle|1 That shit will buff out|0 A good precaution would be to bring the package inside and put it in the corner Wash hands Days later open the package wash hands again Does anyone really need their hair puffer or economy sized bag of almonds today or could it wait a couple of days|1 First thing I did Sitting on this QP feels better than all the TP in the world|1 Why Dont yall love bullshit names|0 Ok thank you so much Im definitely going to try this|1 Do we know any more specifics on what constitutes a comorbidity Are things like being a smoker andor obesity counted as a comorbidity|1 Awesome Thank you so much Are you running Rosetta too If so please join the rcovid19 Rosetta group The group is called rcovid19 It can also be found herehttpsboincbakerlaborgrosettateamdisplayphpteamid18781|1 Yep this is all a fucking PR stunt We are hiding this shit to save face That didnt work out for China We will see some crazy shit and sadly Americans will pay in blood|0 Thank you and I get it The ways things are set up now it makes it impossible for people to do what they know is right without jeopardizing other things I get it I sincerely hope that this whole situation starts to help things shift for a lot of people|1 As is the NHL well some players are doing and some team owners are as well|1 Calm down its just like the flu|1 Once Redditors stop seeing the world through the lense of their completely idiotic bubble of tabloids whose main purpose is to carry advertisements maybe they will realize the outside world is actually full of very reasonable people with real opinions and rich complex histories and not comic book villains mind controlling entire populations like a fucking Tom Clancy novel|1 I know the lack of info and straightup lies from our government is what drives me crazier than anything else|0 Yeah you may never see the body Its crazy|0 I dont get it either but since I am pretty good at finances I dont need to rely on the government right now I know I am the exception Good thing its not all about me I am glad the govt is doing something there are many out there that are lacking in this area|1 Yeah its definitely a scary possibility I dont think theres enough evidence to worry about it too much just yet Ive seen some other comments saying that its probably just peoples immune system not getting immunity properly as a quirk that some people have rather than a characteristic of the virus I know its possible for vaccines to not take in that people can get a vaccine and their body wont be make the antibodies they need for immunity So hopefully thats all this isI think even if reinfections are possible and people keep getting sick over and over again then people will alter their behaviour quite a lot to prevent this from happening People would be pretty good about wearing masks etc if that were the case because people would have first hand experience of how bad it is We have seen in Hong Kong that if the public are very strict with preventive measures then you can prevent cases|1 HongKonger here mums workplace had their 500ml disinfectant stolen|0 Amazing and well put together comment Thank you for the information|1 Its easy to live in a fantasy world but they arent in charge Trump is and hes fucking it up in every possible way imaginableJust the other day I read about how Trump dismantled some CDC infectious disease unit just because Obama was the one who created it|1 lets be honestyou need to lack common sense to go there|0 Hell be whacked for sure Xi isnt going anywhere soon|0 What countrydont say USA dont say USA dont say USAEdit Listen I get it CDC on top of the pagethats the joke you muppets|1 Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units More than half of those patients are under fifty years old There are also young people says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care NVIC Diederik Gommers in an interview with this sitehttpswwwadnldossiercoronavirus40a50nederlandsecoronapatientenopintensivecaresmeerdandehelftisonderdevijftiga058aad2|1 I actually agree with you Normies are waking up now that their precious distractions are being stopped It sucks that everyday folks are not being tested but if this wakes people up to this causes them to stop being stupid and helps prevent more spread Im all for it And it does have the possibility of helping show transmission rates too Sucks over all but yeah|0 Thats a good point Its been an uphill battle with her We dont do much anyway since we have a 2 year old and 4 month old The wife is home still on leave doesnt go back to work until April So the only real social interaction we have is taking the 2 year old to dance class and story time at the library Thats what started the argument My wife only does those two things and she wants to continue until we start seeing reports of people sick That will be too late which I know the media reports will be lagged by 2 weeks of spread before we hear about it My wifes point to me was that if I am still going to work a corporate building with 1500 employees than theres no reason to stop dance class because Id be more likely to catch it at workShe might have a point with that Even though I practice really good hygiene No touching my face washing my hands every 45 minutes or so and keeping my distance from anyone who is sick|0 Its fine now Wait two weeks But I trust NYC more than the CDC There are seriously great medical professionals here They are more on top of this than Feds If anything wash your hands more often and longer with soap and water Maybe take cabs rather than the subway if you can afford to Get flu shot too before coming|1 I am personally a huge Hackathon fan and was laying in bed last night and started thinking about this subject This morning I saw this blog post in my news feed Apparently Im not the only one who is wanting to brainstorm for ideas on how this could work|1 I think the main mindset is the idea that they have is I have something scheduled and that can not be changed like Ice fisherman who have been going out on the ice on the 3rd weekend in January for the last 5 years so the 6th year when you shouldnt out on the ice they do it anyways Kayaker who has been going a trip every year in May ignoring the flood conditions Or how big factory farms ignore the weather and spray or do some other stupid shit because and my Dad an investigator with the Iowa DoA EPA It was on the calender to spray so we sprayed ignoring the fact that the wind gusts were above 40 mph that day and it is illegal to spray from a crop duster at that time|0 Whoops thanks|1 We havent seen any country get to the worst case scenario yet|0 The fact that youre probably bang on scares me|0 And the worst is still yet to come|0 No lie found 2 N95 masks in a drawer in my garage I guess maybe some painters left it awhile back but it was definitely a nice find|1 Bernie is worse|0 I saw some people that understands this and they said its incredible So im going to say Maybe yes|1 Second tweet down my phone does not like TwitterRepDeanPhillipshttpsmobiletwittercomRepDeanPhillipsHow do you reconcile your comments about being ready for a pandemic with the budget you just submitted that cuts State Department funding for WHO by more than 50 cuts CDC funding as wellPOMPEO Well have plenty of moneyNice dismissive response Pomp|0 Im trying to use vacuum cleaner HEPA bags with e11 certificate 94|1 What i love about this sub is that the focus is on honest factual reporting above anything else Before the subreddits switch and even while the other subreddit was considered the better moderated one half of the comments in the other sub were just using any excuse to diss china and any view or reporting putting china in a good light in any miniscule aspect whatsoever was considered either propaganda or you were accused of being a CCP puppet As if being appaled by the CCP human rights record lies and deceit and recognizing they did some effective containment measure were mutually exclusive it was just awful if you were looking for the truth and not just there to diss ChinaIm not saying that this doctor is right im just relieved that that the reportingdiscussions here arent mainly ruled by ideology|1 Regardless of their effectiveness against viruses they WILL help against bacteria and generally clean the area which is better than sitting in a pool of other peoples unhygienic castoffsEdit And theres a lot to be said about the reduced stress this will encourage Less stressed more power to fight off illness|1 The Andromeda Strain is a classic 12 Monkeys is a great movieTechnically I guess Resident Evil is about a virus as is 28 Days Later|0 Thats crazy I get 20gb with my plan in the US which costs under 100 monthly|0 cant be positive if you dont get tested weSmart|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Careful trying to make sense on here rather than blindly joining in on the anti Trump bandwagon Ever since the sub blew up its leaning more and more towards rsanders4president type of discussion with nearly every post bashing the Republican party or finding some way to skew the post marked good news into anti Trump propaganda I think our government has handled most of this shit really poorly but I swear this sub is moving farther away from actual discussion and news over the virus and straight into an analog rthedonald|0 Well said x200BHappy cake day take care|1 Sounds like some really sick and twisted game show|0 Always blows my mind how my inlaws who hated Pence still voted for Trump despite knowing from having Pence as a governor how incompetent he was Then again my wife and I warned them like crazy that for however they viewed Pence as Trump was 100 times worse and they were like nah no one could be that badThey really dont like to talk about politics now 3 years later|0 Awesome thank you |1 Good mod|1 I work at Moody AFB in Georgia We are currently on a shutdown with all nonessential personnel sent home Only mission essential government employees working And contractors unless their management coordinates with the contracting officer and sends them home The message is that they are under contract to the government and that must be fulfilled even when government workers are not there|1 Its like hes trying to recreate when princess Diana shook hands with AIDS patients to dispel the myth it is transferable through touch Except hes just wrong|0 This guy sounds like he means business So was Trump just ignoring the guy for 2 months or what|0 Totally ignores the fact that this isnt a peer reviewed medical study that 55 of the men in China are smokers and heavy ones at that and that China has some of the worse air pollution in the world|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Great idea Especially when youre an asymptomatic superspreader|1 Yep unless youre the press then they just pepper spray ya in the face from like 2 ft away Head over to rhongkong to see some vids|1 Agreed when the general public is going to be this dumb no one needs to help them|0 Lots of hypochondriacs and people using it as an opportunity to express their dislike of Boris|1 But did it Not even the WHO believe the crap youre spouting In fact they have never ever mentioned in any shape that their action was for the best interest of the economy But keep telling me that what WHO decision which has had negative impacts on the world economy is considered what was best for the economy and simply attacking the EU out of spiteIts spite backed with a legitimate reason so does it matter The UK will always be more important to America then the EU|1 I purchased a pack of 4 only pay me|0 This is the lie that we all see but they pretend were too dumb to know Its ridiculous at this point being spoken to like were Americans|0 Exactly and hopefully not|1 No way|0 We dont know the circumstances It could be that the WA State Dept of Public Health is now scrutinizing recent deaths choosing to test suspect cases if it would be prudent to do so It could be that a physician recommended testing on that particular patient It could be that testing was delayed due to a technicality dealing with the CDC I am a WA resident and I have found the Dept of Public Health to be more communicative with the public than anything Ive heard from the CDC and the white house Unfortunately the reality still stands that anything they say must be cleared through the white houseCDC first so I personally feel their hands are tied when it comes to how they might prefer to share their message Thus far theyve been as proactive as they can be it seems They cant do anything the CDC doesnt approve of|1 Just dropping my two cents here hoping they may help1 Actually she said san ju shiti which means three corpses2 What she said was lingchen si de died before dawn|0 Maybe But flu season is dying down and I doubt it will be near as bad as Wuhan But people will still freak|0 So they STILL havent decided if they should help the infected patients or not|0 Same I still remember they made us watch Threads in school Nuclear apocalypse flick Read about biological warfare the poor mans nuke The bastards finally did it|0 And not a single fuck was given that evening|1 Why wait for professional advice when you can panic immediately on the basis of one article|0 Many poor working people in the UK cant afford next months rent If they isolate they stand to lose everything|0 Fuck price gougers|0 All policy must at all times reflect the values of American exceptionalism s|1 By murdering people How would they explain that at the pearly gates|0 I have a test scheduled for tomorrow at my primary care providers office My wife and I just got back from a 3 week vacation to an area thats being hit pretty bad right now As soon as we got back we started to show symptoms Cough shortness of breath headache No fever but they are still taking a bunch of precautions We have to call the office when we get there they will bring masks and gloves to our car take us right into the room and test us|1 I dare you to say in front of your parents or grandparents that it doesnt matter it only kills old people like other viruses anyway this disease is not particularly concerning for most otherwise healthy adults Its concerning to me Even if chances are Ill be totally fine if I get it maybe my parents or my 93 yo grandfather wont be fine Old people are still human beings and they have a family|1 I dont see the contradictionBtw Reddits cofounder Aaron Schwartz fought for publicly funded research to be made available to the public for freehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAaronSwartz|0 The thing is thay asymptomatic people are most of the times the ones who coughsneeze from time to time but with no particularly dangerous symptom like fever or respiratory problemsThat means that their bodies are capable of fighting the thing back but also that they might spread the thing to othersThere are also the ones who legit carry it without any single symptoms but i fail to understand how they spread it since they do not coughsneeze or anything tho|0 Same here getting a little dark not sure if this is how i want to go out|0 lmao|1 The only data I have seen is that observations of cfr in Iran and italy are far higher than should be and some professionals are pointing to the fact it may be to do with steroid use iran and or inflammatory medications italy That was several days agoI take things at face value now it may or may not be true Things information are happeningchanging fast But common sense would presume if it were true Iran and italy would change there treatment strategies Who honestly knows at this point I will bare it in mind|1 I read a report that said 32 million people in the USA will prob need ICU over timefor the 100000 Icu beds thats rather a lot Hence delay the spread Isolate before its too late|0 So they offer doubleprotection then Sounds like the perfect PPE in America|1 Time to talk about good thing was probably 4 weeks ago Its now necessary thing time|1 If you think UK science is better than the rest of the world combined youre out of your mind|1 Im pretty sure theyve seen positive results from using hydroxychloroquine in China South Korea and maybe Italy so youre not correct that there is nothing that can be done|1 The virus has been around long enough that we can do a pretty good job about estimating Plus before it even gets around 10 of 1 million the country will most likely institute drastic measures to quarantine everyone 100k would be a MASSIVE hit let alone anything close to 1 million Please ground yourself and stop spreading mass panic|1 Thanks for your concerns Just wanted to share some tips is all|1 Is ass used to refer to the animal or are they also arses|0 If only When the city inevitably shuts down and then still expects us to show up thats when it gets interesting|1 1These figures are all measured based on hospitalized people Given that you find yourself in the hospital the odds are 1 on average that youll die This further depends on your age preexisting conditions etc but it doesnt mean its a number we can apply to the general population Its likely that this is actually much lower as a whole so no youre not likely to know someone who will die from thisFor example on average 510 of those treated in the hospital for pneumonia die However only 713 of people with pneumonia actually end up in the hospital Pneumonia affects about 400500 million people a year so its very common I have literally never known anyone who died of pneumonia although I hear about it all the time That 510 sounds scary but its not really representative of the severity of pneumonia|0 Honestly they were all out|1 My MAGA boomer dad finally threw his hands up this morning and yelled BERNIE SANDERS supporters should be happy The VIRUS is going to force our country into socialism We have no choiceIf thats his acceptance of the need to expand healthcare Ill take it Because of his age and heavy involvement with the stock market this is something that directly affects himIts going to affect all of us one way or another|1 Latin America is a fuckton of countries if Mexico posts were getting hidden by US and Canada mostly US I presume posts but Latin America posts end up all invisible between each other as it spreads further specially considering its reached the large two already consider dividing it into USOther North AmericaCentral AmericaSouth America in the future as per the reason given mexican posts will end up hidden by the rest of latin america instead of the rest of north america|1 Thats the plan Seriously The governments plan is to let 60 of the population get infected so we have herd immunity|0 You will find most government agencies are useless they go to collect a paycheck OVERPAID paycheck at that and go home laughing at us NEVER trust anything the government says about anyone they are always liars and have been since the dawn of governmental society They dont care about you they never have and never will This applies to the whole planet and not just USA I dont trust anything they say and that is why I am healthy and still living good|0 Chiune SugiharaChiune Sugihara Sugihara Chiune 1 January 1900 31 July 1986 was a Japanese Diplomat who served as viceconsul for the Japanese Empire in Kaunas Lithuania During the Second World War Sugihara helped about 6000 Jews flee Europe by issuing transit visas to them so that they could travel through Japanese territory risking his job and the lives of his family The fleeing Jews were refugees from Germanoccupied Western Poland and Sovietoccupied Eastern Poland as well as residents of Lithuania In 1985 the State of Israel honored Sugihara as one of the Righteous Among the Nations Hebrew for his actions PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 The fed and banks can prop up the economy for extended periods of time even if youre sure a collapse is imminent puts and shorts are risky business|0 OP can you explain what this means Im dumb|0 Wuhan Coronavirus is not a flu It is not Influenza it is a coronavirus Two different things|1 Good its slowing down Almost over|1 I got welcomed home to Virginia by one of the parking shuttle drivers after my trip to Disney World I was like how did he know I was home I was still wearing my Minnie ears Edit Im dumbit was a parking shuttle driverof course I was home He was taking me to my car I am not a smart lady|1 Thats how African avoid getting sick Its called Voodoo|0 Leave right now Dont even think about just grab your passports and head to the airport|0 Its been moving quickly for weeks The amount of unconfirmed cases is easily 1000 by now|1 You have to pay fees|0 Hello I read a LOT of stuff about the number of people who become ill and about the percentage of deaths and all that jazz But I dont read much about the recoveries and I dont see much information in the sense of alleviating the health care institutions when people become healthy againHow is the data of people currently sick skewed compared to all the people sick for the whole period since the outbreak And if people are recovering how desperate really is the situation in hospitals and in public health concernsIn your opinion is this situation more akin to mass hysteria general panic based on concrete data or something in between|0 Fun Fact Early on the the map looked like the DDR was back up due to noone being infected in those statesSo there you know it East Germany got better hygiene s|1 I agree And that causes more panic|0 Continental Europe is playing dumb Lets see how it will go Btw 13 of French investments in China are in Wuhan |0 You think theyre entitled to own land|1 Pandemic Pence wants to pray the virus away|1 Awesome as heck to hear that you are prepped Publix is just near us To be honest Ive been afraid to go in for the past week because of the incubation period of this virus The last run I did was to a farm store Friday And I was like well this is it God bless and take good care|1 When Im struggling I usually go back to food clothing shelter and I give me self a break on the rest til Im ready Its a good stable ground to begin with do I have clean clothes enough groceries and supplies laundry detergent etc as long as all that is running smoothly then I branch out into social contacts physical exercise entertainment etc the other things are personal if possible make a diagram with yourself in the middle with spokes branching out to bubbles of things to do in each area thats important to you|1 I imagine youd get so incredibly sick of twinkies that youd start to under eat pretty quickly just so that you can consume fewer twinkies|0 Everything that was done was only to slow the pace of the spread It is inevitable that COVID19 will be everywhere The question is can the spread be retarded enough to limit the impact enoughI prepped initially for a 3month lockdown and have been adding an extra week each week since the end of January I also have been flipping my investments from agressive stocks to cash and bonds At this point the best case scenario is the extra food and supplies are not going to be wasted and regardless of the extent of the spread of COVID19 at the very least the market is going to take a hit from supply disruptions|0 25k tests is pathetic South Korea is doing around 17k a day|0 When I went to bed at 9 pm lastnight the numbers were 4295 infected and 106 dead Its growing exponentially|0 Just giving natural selection a little nudge in the right direction|1 The problem is if yo dont contain it millions of people get it and its not possible to treat hundreds of thousands of people and the whole sanitary system collapses|0 Again repeated reply people before you said all these I responded The message US Media give to people is not HEY MASKS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IF YOU COULDNT FIND AT YOUR STORE NEXT WEEK NEW MASKS BEING DISTRIBUTED instead theyre literally boldly saying MASKS DO NOT WORK DO NOT WEAR THEM Which is not just a bold lie with consequences but generally a very very stupid strategy Because for how long are you gonna keep telling this to people and encourage them to go in front of a deadly virus unprotected|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I blame all that butter modern French cooking puts shedloads of it in everything|0 If its not controlled in the US it will be of short duration months and a death toll of a million or more the US has 30000 available ICU beds CFR in serious cases thats are untreated is near 15 see early days of the Wuhan outbreak insufficient medical care means death for a large number of people|0 What indeedI never once mentioned the greater good or public health or Monopolies or price gouging Maybe you got confused replying to someone elseIn any case in real capitalism bad ideas have nothing to with human perception as the Market is the judge If the only way your business can exist is by the government propping it up that is the market telling you you have a bad idea andor executed it badly and should not exist under capitalismGovernment bailouts and market intervention is socialism full stop|0 Wow what selfish fucks are running around in our worldIts the like the guy who shared his story on this sub the guy who took a flight to taiwan in order to get into the us he didnt want to go into isolation|0 Thats interesting If SK was carrying out 5000 tests per day when they were at a similar point in their outbreak they would have been getting positive rates between 29 and 46 Once they hit 1000 total confirmed cases it seemed to spin out of control and 5000 tests per day would have yielded 10 positive test results|1 In Wuhan if you breath like a duck walk like a duck and quack like a duck they arent going to DNA you to see if you are a duck|1 I have remote flexibility when needed but I want the office to just come out and announce that everyone should work remote until this blows over|1 Its just the flu bro httpsiimgurcom2n0nbsMjpg|0 Havent thought that far ahead yet Im still too worried about tomorrow|0 Hello twin I feel the same and Im glad someone else wrote this because I was starting to believe it was becoming an unhealthy obsession|0 I got the flu twice even though I got flu shots Wished I was dead for 5 days each time Vomiting my guts out constantly Constant diarrhea Yeah these people must have never gotten it|0 Thank you I will plan to write I think something like this I am a member of the rover60 sub and I asked them if they could somehow cooperate with the rCOVID19support sub to create an rover60COVIDsupport special support for just this endangered group And maybe I would add that I am in the EU so I think it is unpractical for me to be the mod to make it clear that I do not start it I just suggest it And to you here now I add that the rover60 was also started by me asking it somewhere I forgot where and a BTW younger redditor then kindly started it and is the mod ever since So I hope someone will start this too but not me|1 Covid is a virus But lysol will still kill it on any hard nonporous surface|0 Dude stop with your shit posting every half hour First its saying trudeau is hiding while you suck off Norway and now you are onto Czech Republics schlong These posts are neither informative nor helpful to anyone We get it you hate Trudeau and think Canada sucks in its response Maybe now is the time for unity instead of bashing your own country If you hate the response why dont you spend this time writing to elected officials who can affect change instead of these politically biased posts afternoon|0 It hurts me to say this but I think Tucker Carlson got through to him Carlson was one of the only people at Fox News to take this seriously from the get go and he had a recent meeting with Trump shortly before Trumps attitude changed on the virus Not that Id ever watch that channel but thats apparently what happened Whatever it takes I guess|0 Do you live inaround New Orleans How are the stores like where youre at Curious how bad it is in other suburbs and the city itself|1 Then it seems like you dont understand|1 Theres no way Iran has less numbers than Italy when theyre doing all this digging|0 People were running around with wigs on thinking that would help them|1 There wont be a next president in January They already canceled postponed elections in certain states just wait till November and see|1 He already tried It failed spectacularly|0 Research done after the H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic in 2009 shows Africa was one of the hardest hit places with the most fatalitiesThe only reason why African nations show up as having zero reported cases of Swine Flu is because they have almost zero functioning healthcare systems Blood tests carried out after showed many people with antibodies to H1N1H1N1 was affected by hot weather and has since become a seasonal flu unfortunately this is not a flu virus it is a SARS virus The MERS outbreak of the SARS virus stands for Middle East not exactly know for its cold weather so its unlikely that warm weather will protect against this virus|0 Me winning the lottery is also an option Doesnt do me a lot of good|1 I was quoting directly from a news article but go off Does this sub take some sort of pro coronavirus stanceThe fact is people are panicking about something they cannot control There is no need to worry about a bursting water line thats outside your house that you cant control You cant control the spread of corona so the best thing is to correctly inform people This is not a worse case scenario with a certain death rate|0 Government shouldve already stopped online resale of these goods on day oneAnd offer buybacks to the hoarders And maybe a kick to the ass for needing so much TP|0 All three are H2H from the one guy who already had it This is bad|0 Why do so many people fail to understand its not about the single individual You could be unknowingly spreading this virus all over to the elderly immunocompromised whoever The lack of testing being done anywhere is ridiculous especially with South Korea testing 20000 a day now|0 Eh I dont think I buy this argument It suggests that in China they successfully extended firstworld ICU care to every critical case that needed it which cant possibly be true The measured case fatality rates in Hubei are what you would expect to observe with uncontrolled spread in a major metro area with healthcare functioning under extremely adverse conditions The lower CFRs elsewhere in China suggest that functioning medical care might make the CFRs in the west early in the outbreak somewhat lower We shall see what happens in Italy and South Korea soon enough|0 Nah I dont like computers|0 Fake news|0 The CDC isnt charging but because its the US individual hospitals can still charge for administering them A lot of people are going to the local hospital or clinic to get tested and they often do get charged for itYou can request a test be delivered to you from the CDC though I have no idea how fast those ship out Same tests completely free|1 Good gesture sure but pizza seems like the last food Id want a bunch of people to share during a viral outbreak|1 Three things my dude1 A single observation study does not a definitive make It does make the case that longdistance airborne transmission is possible but doesnt affirm whether it is a major route of transmission for the current strains of SARSCoV2 A single study finding makes for preliminary conclusions and unless these observations are replicated in multiples Im not about to shout from the rooftops that its absolutely airborne in all cases One study in a Journal of the Pathological Society of Great Britain and Ireland by Yanqing Ding found that the gastrointestinal tract may be a route for transmission like polio But you dont hear about that because its only one study and they need to do followup research before making such a claim as fact2 I did some reading and funnily enough your source contradicts the idea that the virus is aerosolized It states that the unique conditions of the bus air conditioning were likely what caused the increased transmission distance The article ends with the note that airborne transmission outside of a similarly enclosed environment is probably very limited Its why entities such as the CDC and UChicago Medicine are slow to adopt the view that SARSCoV2 is truly airborne Those are my resources My takeaway as that wearing a mask while using public transit is a good move which I will keep doing3 I never said masks dont help I said they can be misused easily And Im not removing the possibility that it is transmitted by aerosols Im saying theres not a whole lot of accurate and conclusive data to confirm this hypothesis|1 New York is absolutely fucking fucked I need to get back home to California with my family I hate living in Brooklyn I miss you San Diego|0 Israel never gives a fuck about feelings when it comes to stuff like this|1 There was a 4th NorCal case reported earlier this evening as well bringing the total to 24|1 Guaranteed theyve been pending for three days I think they just leave it pending because the next day the previous cases disappear its very very sus|0 In Canada they sent military planes and straight to a military base for quarantine Why are the Nordics so careless Czech Republic has now banned all flights from the Nordic countries amongst other hot spots I feel Scandinavia is really messing things up Takes balls to at times like this|0 Living in America I feel weirdly shamed into not wearing a mask even though I already own a box of N95 respirators from a time when my city experienced hazardous air quality due to wildfires It seems that the strange looks are mainly directed at nonAsian people who wear masks If you are Asian no one thinks twice about it since it is already considered culturally acceptable It makes no sense to me|0 I either trust my doctor or I find a new one So now I turn to the CDC as Tedros isnt doing it for me We remain calm and accepting or we find a third doctor|1 happy to throw their expected revenue away because you want to quarantineIf theaters are shutdown or it is finally taken seriously their expected income will evaporate Its already happening in China and Italy|1 So you wont struggle if youre cuddled|1 Theres so many videogames movies and art projects I can put more time into I dont think Im going to run out of anything that easily Porn sites arent the only thing weve got out of the Computer era|1 A cruise Unbelievable|1 This is literally the best that can be produced with the information that we have Unless you have something to contribute stop trying to discredit those trying to inform|1 httpswwwscmpcomnewsworldunitedstatescanadaarticle3049933howonemanspreadcoronavirussingaporeukalpshttpswwwscmpcomnewsworldunitedstatescanadaarticle3049933howonemanspreadcoronavirussingaporeukalpshes doing fine still he had an interview yesterday|1 My Dad is in the same boat I fear for him too And me and my brother live with him My brother who is working from home this week will travel to office again next week and I am freaking out People who have returned from Germany and Dubai are among his colleagues I have tried explaining my family that this is dangerous but they think I am overreactingToday when I went to stock up on supplies initially the shop was empty And then within minutes it started filling And being a very tiny cramped space I freaked out about coming in contact with others I am now convinced I may have picked up the virus and fear for Dad I am really scared |0 There is a much higher rate of travel in the US and that travel has not stopped completely The spread might start more slowly at first but the exponential spread will remain exponential until people stop traveling and bringing the virus to other microcommunities Once a virus has reached a community the spread will be exponential with respect to that community regardless of the population density largely due to the long incubation period and the likelihood that the virus can be spread through presymptomatic and possibly asymptomatic individuals Some smaller rural communities in the US may be spared once the moderate quarantines and travel restrictions take place provided there is no community exposure to the virus But barring some miracle the virus will not be containable across vast swaths of the population until heavier mandatory quarantines and 0 travel restrictions are put into place|1 No you dont get it dummy Youre worse than an antivaxxerMasks and respirators work only if you have a medical degree Every time you put on a respirator or mask it checks to see if youre a doctor or other certified health professional and if youre not certified to use the mask the mask knows to let the coronavirus through That way youre forced to give the mask to a medical professionalSource I read Reddit comments left by people who say they are medical professionals|0 Rebel media Nuff said|0 Here in Singapore people went into panic mode and bought up stores like crazy Toilet paper rice eggs it was insane The stuff they bought bleach and bread Wtf Anyway after the weekend on Konday shit was all restocked Govt has to tell people to stop panic buying Only thing hard to get right now is Dettol wipes People still hoarding that shit|0 Something like 42 million people in the us dont have healthcare and most people with healthcare will still have to pay a fuckton for a test that could be wrong Most people wont go get tested|0 I feel like spraying rubbing alcohol on your comment|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 And still they dont wear masks or gloves Wake up for real this isnt gonna resolve itself in these conditions|0 Welcome to healthcare proactive is a term no one seems to understand|1 Dont forget the infected needles|1 Taiwan was formed by the government of China when it was overrun by guerrilla forces in a civil war Theres no element of succession there|0 well someone said earlier thats its knee jerk reaction what happened now x200B httpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799httpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799|0 Saving face is of paramount importance to China and its extremely heavily ingrained in their worldview That has been the underlying theme driving their entire response up through at least late last week This isnt speculationassumption its fact Its also why they were refusing any outside experts aid or assistance to the frustration of the WHO and the CDCAs I said this is a huge step forward But China simply would not make this step if things were fine and under control|0 It is racist Call it what it is|0 Irish here Im spending a lot of time learning languages and started Chinese from scratch Im also journaling bookbinding writing reading watching TV and meditating to relieve anxiety Im doing religious study Im a pagan and I take my little puppy for a walk every day in a meadow near my house where there is no people|0 especially owners of hotel chains Im sure|1 Pretty clear this virus is not going to spread into an global pandemicthere would be more global cases by now|1 You dont even want to see my map |0 Trump is taking advice from experts His job is the toughest in the world nobody can be good at everything He delegated|1 1 To me the pictures I have seen all look like a screenshot from a website2 So3 Exactly Some genius calculated what he thinks the number should be based on statistical trends that everyone is throwing around modify that into a website that is conveniently tracking numbers and boom profit|1 We really dont want a society filled with young people who deliberately put others at risk|0 Im Italian and this seems really 100 true He says they tested his sister before she died Now he is awaiting the results The doctors refused to come and refused to test him until they know the results of his sister He did cpr on her when she couldnt breath so he has whatever she has He also says that she had epilepsy My country saddens me|0 What The Fuck Why do you weird american psychos get guns for everything You cant shoot a virusWhat would you do if you couldnt depend on stores or government for food Are you gonna eat leaves and grass if a situation like that were ever to arise Also its a fricken 22 lr While 22lr can be deadly to humans its not a very viable option for self protection or defense Its suited for small game andor target practice Its not exactly something youd fight a revolution with Maybe make an attempt to know what youre talking about before attempting to discuss something youre not knowledgeable aboutTo educate you a little here is a picturehttpswwwthetruthaboutgunscom22lrvs223remingtonabeginnersguide that shows 22lr next to a 223556 round which is the most commonly used western military ammo Theres a huge difference in size and power|0 Yes a limited period of IP rights taking a back seat to humanitarian needs is absolutely warranted Companies will sue because they have to to maintain their patents bit if they actually seek monatary damages from individuals whos actions were taken during this crisis I would advocate severe punishment for corporate leadership on the other side of this This crisis is going to expose a lot of scum and we need to use the opportunity to take out the trash At the same time we need to understand the position this puts people in leadership roles in and our political leaders need to take the nessecary steps to alleviate such problems|0 Come on guys you cant be seriously thinking that a man with such STEM background is unaware of the severity the pandemic that he doesnt know this virus spreads as fast as flu while kills 10 times moreI bet he simply does not care ProductionSales mean more to him than your lives|0 Ill take tb to get a needed vent|0 Can you get a few more moms to show up earlier or the next day so there hit with several It might make a stronger point Especially with so many colleges going virtual now Harvard Ohio a few more I cant remember Good work keep safe|1 Based on that China has one hefty bill to pay|0 A strange silver lining is that the MAX hasnt gotten back off the ground yet So all of a sudden the lost capacity due to the issues with the MAX isnt a bad thing anymore|0 Norton sucks Youve got Corona now Sorry friend |1 There was a quote I read yesterday but lost now unfortunately It was a senior medical official in either the US or UK during the 2009 Swine Flu outbreakHe said at first everyone was panic as it seemed to kill lots of people etc new and scary Then when they started testing more widely they realised a lot of people already had it and hadnt noticed and then it basically went around the world It did kill a lot of people but not relative to amount it infected It maybe something similar here particularly given how widespread we are finding infected|0 To have a little time to handle it with care and avoid outragedpanicked crowds doing irrational things|0 Devastating for the 77 and all the people theyve encountered|0 Just imagine how many they unfortunately missed Should have been testing since January|0 Thanks and yes though its been a while I used to be a pretty good shot|1 Seems we do have a bit more in common than I thought Lets hope some good comes out of it Peace|1 Its not that Im afraid Im aware of the situation Im aware this is gonna get bad for many ppl and right now best to distance ourselves That we as Asthmatic ppl should take some precautions|1 Wouldnt be surprised if the reality is 5x official reports|0 Goosebumps Stay strong friends Well be there soon|1 And whose fault is that|0 Right they cared about equality so much they put Jews in equal camps Fuck off with that shit|0 Yet the death rate of resolved cases admitted to the hospital has bottomed and is now increasing from 65|0 I dont know why youre getting down voted Youve summed it up so well but I guess people dont want to listen to reason|1 It is hard to know if it is true issues with the virus panic from people with a cough or both Likely both This is the panic people were talking about While I dont agree with the response of any of the federal officials it is a tough spot to be in regardless of party affiliation Do you make sweeping announcements that are probably needed to help slow the spread but chaos panic that likely overwhelms the system with most cases likely not Covid19 but panicky people Or do you try to wait as long as you can to avoid that dont know the right answer honestly|0 Officially smarter than Chris whitty|1 She most certainly CAN get her hours dialed back All she has to do is fill out a new true availability form she can get from any stores personnel office Theres a space on there to put how many daily hours you want and how many weekly hours you want minimum and maximum amounts Then turn it in to management and away you go If she is too tired on 40 hours she can definitely self limit to 30 or whatever she wants|1 They will start it at 14 days Then when the numbers keep increasing because of the amount of JACK SHIT we did to contain it they will increase it If we get locked down just expect to be inside for a month or longer|0 Be better if that jennifercolerhuk wasnt a mod there Permabanned me from rCOVID19support for missing the point of the sub when I called an idiot out for fearmongering and another person for questioning her|0 what an entrepreneur cute|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Time will tell For now just a little pissed at our national CDC They give advices the scientific research up till now is not backing up|0 my wife is just at 8 months and the virus is spreading all over Nashville right now we are very scared of what we will have to deal with luckily our hospital has a birth area that is totally isolated from all other areas if we can just weather the coming storm for one month|0 Had to provide a sick note for a brain infection apparently being hospitalized was not good enough proof I was sick|0 Had a conference call yesterday They want people to keep going to tenant properties traveling and the rest They said they didnt have any other guidanceThese soulless corporations arnt going to stop unless government makes them|0 Homemade masks improve the situation if lots of people are wearing them|1 So now they need to check Which taxibus she took to BLR Who all were in BLR at the time All the passengers and flight attendants of the flight she took Who all were in DEL at the time The taxi or metro she took from DEL to NDLS Who all were in NDLS at the time and what trains were coming and going on those platforms Who travelled on the same train to AGC Who was in AGC when the train arrived and she caught an autotaxi back home All her family members and everyone she went and said hello to because aunty wants to see you after 5 years All those whom her family members interacted with Yeah thats not happening is it|1 yeah hes absolutely pathetic as a leader but most americans have no real concept of leadership which is why we are having the problems we are having now as far as i can tell we havent had an actual leader since JFK|0 gay people make me uncomfortable|0 Yes I confirm all this Im from Italy Milan|1 I simply cannot afford not to go to workUntil I get sick then I get paid leaveWhat the hell do you want me to fuckn do|0 The mods there are very biased and if your opinion doesnt match theirs youll get banned Its stupid|0 Chinese government were quick to declare that they will cover the costs I assumed all capable government would do the same in the face of national crisis|0 I think this will be over in two weeks Ive had multiple people tell me this over the past few days Less than 3 weeks ago we were hearing the first cases from Italy and now over 200 people are dying every day Why do we have such an invincibility complex Are we really that stupid to think that a global pandemic cant affect the United StatesI just dont understand the denial Americans have at this point|0 Exactly why we celebrate Labor Day|1 Unfortunately the censorship is strong|1 Its fucking crazy to me that a fellow Oregonian had to get tested and get medical advice from UW doctorsIm at the point now where I want to see consequences for the leaders in our state and their incredible mishandling of thishttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvdDxlMwRk14s|0 You would think so That article says that people might be responsible for some or all of the cost depending on insurance Thats my recollection from the FAQ as wellAnd I really wish I could find that FAQ|1 Adams continued Sunday saying And when we look at the flu tracker some parts of the country are having much more severe flu seasons Some are having very mild flu seasons The same thing for coronavirusWTF|0 Its surprising how people think any tests are 100 Every single test has a certain confidence interval|1 Im 19 so I know the percentage is super low but I developed a cough yesterday and when I tried to call the number to get tested they didnt even pick up |1 rcoronavirus is infested with 50 cents I swear Its like rpolitics and rsino had a really ugly baby now|0 Im assuming that it got here months before someone tested positive for it Its March weve know about it since 2019|1 We had note HAD dont really have anymore more time than Italy to take measures before it got out of control precisely because we saw what was happening in Italy China and Italy were at somewhat of a disadvantage as they were the earlier countries who ended up with very quick community spread Italy also couldve acted earlier and prevented much of the burden on their health systemThe point is acting EARLY is what helps EARLY Trying something different from Italy that involves not swamping the health system means making sure fewer people get infected at once right So you think that just allowing the infection to spread exponentially through the UK and doing nothing to minimise the rate of infection is somehow trying something different that will somehow magically work and mean FEWER people need hospital How does that even make logical sense|0 why the fuck was this deleted its good copy pasteIm an American living in China in Yunnan provinceI appreciate this sub and the information and I am gravely concerned that the researchers are basing all their projections on data that are completely at odds with the situation on the groundLocal government officials and party leaders are not medical experts but they are certainly being told by their guanxi relationships working in police stations and hospitals what is going on and they are collectively acting as if they have a catastrophe on their handsImagine youre a passenger on a ship and you see the cabin crew suddenly making huge announcements and orders for your safety with terrified looks on their faces and grimfaced soldiers standing at the door What are you going to go with The sales brochure you were reading a few days ago that assured you that everything was going to be fine Or has that assurance been replaced by new urgent information if only anecdotal for nowThe virus is clearly accelerating even using official data The governments around the world are canceling flights The government here canceled the Spring Festival holiday closed the Great Wall and all the national parks and most of the smaller ones and all the fast food restaurants and banned vehicle traffic between cities and provinces Evacuation flights of expat citizens are landing and showing infection rates of the passengers of 12 and mandatory quarantines on military basesNone of what officials are doing comports with a low infection rate and low mortality rates The people who know The doctors and hospital administrators and local public officials who decided to lock 150000000 people in their homes with more to come in a few days Theyre acting like its doomsday Maybe we should too|1 Youre being naive Ive seen people fighting over food at smart and final and the virus hasnt even exploded here Also when they got broken into 4 years ago they asked me to stay with them and to bring my guns cause to robbers escaped the police My parents are afraid to accept what is happening|0 Why does everyone keep repeating that the incubation period is 14 days when weve seen cases with incubation periods of 30 days and even one of 40 days I think its dangerous to keep spreading the lie that a 14day quarantine is sufficient because the incubation period is only 14 days It isnt We know it isnt Its common knowledge that it isnt But everyone is so desperate to keep parroting the 14 dayincubation period Im not angry at you OP Youre just representative of a much larger problem that I find incomprehensible irresponsible and frustrating Cheers|0 Certainly they have gone further in their efforts to quarentine and it makes sense numbers should decline But dont underestimate the pressure they are under to get back to normal business as usual and the willingness of the CCP to sacrifice the health and lives of its own people to do so My prediction is they will soon lift most quarentine measures the CCP will claim victory over the virus then once workers are back to full capacity we will see another surge in infections that the they will blame on foreigners|1 Ironic|0 Its not a mask phobia We literally dont have enough masks for the medical professionals and have been asked NOT to use masks personally so that the doctors on the front lines can still have some|1 Yea that seems pretty clear But they were saying we are x amount of days behind Italy I was wondering how accurate that could be when we dont even know how many people are actually infected lol|1 Im in the same boat screw those people some people were making fun of me in class today for being happy that it was the last inperson class at my university and I was wearing my scarf around my face|1 Just that vaccination has a far far far far far lower chance of serious illness lifelong complications and deathThe herd immunity approach would be fine if wed have a ton of medical resources and everyone could get sufficient treatment Instead the hospitals get to a breaking point far too fast people that would have survived with proper care will suddenly die insteadRight now its all about keeping the healthcare system running If that gets overcrowded were fucked|0 It might do much but Im sure itd better then nothing At the very least if I get it I wont spread it around as much|1 More like his kids may put other people in danger Kids are carriers and get very mild illness|0 Some states are larger than countries Best way to look at it is infected per million|1 Just look at the US economy It is only positioned for uptrend growth Fed reserve just cut rates from 175 to 1125 market STILL dropped Infection testing hasnt even been done and supply chain effects are still underway What happens when rates hit 0 and hyperinflation begins|1 Its not necessarily about number of machines but also about doctors nursing and expertise We are lucky that one of the UK high consequence infectious disease centres is Guys and St Thomas which is also a world leading respiratory failure and ECMO centre|0 Thanks he says he is feeling better|1 Yeah I only meant to point out that at best they were misunderstanding the numbers they posted completely and at worst theyre spreading misinformationWe need to be doing way more tests and take the virus much more seriously In Ontario there are plenty who are treating it as if its a normal flu and others who arent taking self isolation seriously note Im not talking about people who still have to show up to work Im talking about people going to bars malls etc Its frustrating that its so difficult because every day I wake up and feel like shit I have to wonder if its the virus or just lack of sleepbad sleep in my dry room If I end up thinking Im sick I have to quarantine which regardless of what Ford says will likely get me in hot water at the small company I work for and then I honestly dont know Am I able to go to work after I recover If I have mild symptoms how can I tell if its a cold or the virus If it is the Covid19 how do I know when Ive recovered Theres so little information from our government which on every level is trying to pretend that everything is fine that I honestly dont understand what their plan isThey do have the phone number to call which can provide information but they should be moving on to what to do if you are sick with the coronavirus instead of wash your hands and avoid people and well wait and see if things get worse|0 I have a Chinese friend Im in Europe and she texted me last night to ask after us and remind me to wear a mask Chinese businesses are the only ones Ive seen with workers wearing masks|1 Yeah|1 Im guessing 116 curfew at first Im also guessing the big grocery chains were told ahead of time and thats why they suddenly stopped 24 hour service But Im guessing|0 Thank you so much for helping us stay safe|1 Lol what Do you not understand that crime stats are given on a PER CAPITA basis meaning it doesnt matter that one country has less people than the other because its adjusted PER CAPITA Smh Its okay to like your country but dont lie Its pathetic|1 The HIV is being spread by rape Last I heard rapists dont care about their victims much Im sure a lack of sex education also adds to the dumpster fire|0 Right Lol|1 No Im definitely an idiot too It was only after seeing the videos out of China in early February that scared the shit out of meFrom here I warned my family only to get ridiculed by some family members with laughing emojis I know they say dont time the market but I changed out my 401k along with my wifes to the super safe stuff Sure glad she gave me the green light weve only seen a bout 5 losses|1 Society wants content for free and producers want to maximize the money in their pockets regardless of whether or not their content is clickbait or the paid ads are clickbaitI argue that its not right to demand free content but its also not right to inundate your audience with bullshit ads For now I will continue to use my adblocker until someone smart figures out a real solution or these producers figure out that they need a real job|1 Lombardy is seeing a decrease in new cases 1327 984 818 new cases for the past 3 days Hoping it wont be more than 700 tomorrow|1 Maybe there is a combination of Carneval ie alcohol and NSAIDs Careval means a lot of alcohol which increases closer contact to other people and on the other hand gives you a hangover At least in germany the go to thing for hangovers is aspirin a NSAID if I understand correctly|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Perhaps South Korea has more professionals trained up and ready to carry out tests whilst the UK only had a dozen or so and theyre overloaded with working 247 and trying to train up more people to use the same equipment through video links to remote sitesIts easy for Boris to announce something but hard for the poor buggers who have to do it|0 Im highly introverted and a homebody this is like a cake walk for me|1 I feel like the UK is fucking up even worse than usEdit Im from the United states|1 As someone who works at a grocery store we would have been able to limit quantity per person if everyone in the state wasnt all out shopping in the same 2 days We couldnt efficiently limit without drastically increasing checkout time leaving hundreds of people in close contact for an extended period of time|0 You found that kind of photos a lot in China a month agoThis thing is universal no one can wish to be left alone So better do your part so their efforts will not be in vain|1 15 trillion wasnt pumped into the stock marketIt was given in overnight repo where banks can transfer us tresuries for USD loans with interest The banks only took 200b of repo anyways|1 Yes Bravery and compassion personified in situations like this And cant be outsourced or automated The effectiveness of our inperson care for our ill and D2D dependent is the best true measure of the health of our society Not the stock market or our 401ks not anything that happens in elections Our care for each other Were about to be audited by a virus Hopefully we are not found wanting|1 This all feels like the start of a global pandemic movie where our only hope is for Danny Devito to find the cure and save mankind|1 For what its worth my friends father who is a worldrenown biochemist told him that he is confident that they will have a viable vaccine ready for trials within 30 days|1 You are correct on both counts Downregulation as well as PG having antiviralbacterial effects Werner Henle 1941httpsjournalssagepubcomdoiabs103181003797274813383journalCodeebma|1 LMAO|1 This was written by the Gulen movement now accepted as a terrorist organization due to their attempted coup in Turkey The website in the last link httpsstockholmcforghttpsstockholmcforg is known to have been founded by the Gulen movement You can check it out you will see that almost every report they publish includes defamation|0 I think they didnt want to panic people and the market with a large numbers of cases But since everyone assumes that there are a large number of infected people who were never tested the market dropped AND people are starting to panic And now nobody trusts the government numbers|1 I heard jizz kills the virus|0 Only America believes it has the best healthcare service because they equal cost with quality|1 Not right the top two highest are Vatican and San Marino Switzerland is the fourth|0 Ill hit rank 10 next week Nothing will stop me|0 Good adviceUnfortunately I still dont need to worry about biting my tongue because people still dont care Weve a confirmed case in our town but nobody is bothering to even wash their hands on entry to the building despite being asked toJokes and mocking of people taking it vaguely seriously but nothing else|0 Im a late 20s female who also lives alone I know its scary thinking of all the things that could happen Try not to focus on all the worst case scenarios as they will most likely not happen Focus on the things you are able to control and things you can do to prepare yourself Just take things a day at a time|0 The ships ventilation system might not be pumping fresh air into the cabins It might instead be pumping some fresh air into the cabins but that some air from the cabin may recirculated depending on how they designed the heating and air conditioning systems on board I wouldnt be surprised if there is some recirculation going on as it would reduce the energy use for climate control|0 While many people cant do thatMany of us can A LOT of office workers already have work from home capability I expect at some point my employer to tell us to stop coming inI worked the same position at a previous employer 99 remote for 6 yearsYes a lot of jobs cant do that but a LOT of jobs absolutely can be done remotely with the right infrastructure in place|0 The US will end up much like this as well|1 Lol just looking through your comment history for and weve got 1 spreading racist debunked lies about bat soup 2 explaining how youre looking forward to the culling 3 and of course TD its just so perfect|1 Its a great message from leadership something as an American I would like to have|1 Given that the vast majority of people apparently wont even know they had it or have fairly minor effects I hope they worry doesnt set in past being a bit more vigilantx200BI really dont want to deal with people panic buying and there being no food left in the shops|0 The anti diarrheals is an overlooked choice even by myself First off for healthsanitation obviously and also for water conservation|0 Sadly banned in China|0 Are there people who spend on pornhub I havent found an incentive yet|0 More elderly people may be dying but that doesnt mean young people arent dying Young people have developed complications and died Plus they said they dont want to go through it again so they arent necessarily concerned with dying but even just contracting it|0 Hence the gun Universal language|0 check out rCOVID19httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19 No fearmongering allowed just scientific studies and analysis I wasnt as worried until I started reading the science and discussions there|0 Morbidity Award 1|1 The flu has killed more people this year than my house fire I dont know why everyone is evacuating|0 Sounds more like Laurier|1 Thats not going to happen I mean technically they can say it but its not like we cant develop tests outside of the federal government NY is already doing this and the rate of infection and lethality is so much higher than the flu that its not going to take much to put two and two together Theyre also not going to be able to black bag the doctors and nurses on the front lines like China is trying to do Not to mention independent observers like the WHO Remember this is a virus that shuts down cities no one is going to believe thats because of a flu with the corona virus spreading|0 Forgot how dangerous SARS was to be honest|1 What were your symptoms Did you have sore throat|0 You dont amend the constitution because you think its old Wtf|0 It really is amazing how quickly the scientists are developing these things I mean sure some things might not work but seeing how much progress theyre making is amazing We are extremely lucky to have as much technology as we do Weve come so far with this virus in such a short time If this were 50 years ago hell even 20 wed be in a much more dire situation The scientists are the true heroes here Or some of the heroes I should say This is not meant to minimize all the other heroes doctors nurses first responders etc|1 Call it whatever you want just like how they used to call American AIDS to refer to AIDS The world needs to be reminded of where it started and the cultural practices that started it to ensure that nothing like this happens again|1 Is it bad that I want him to catch itMaybe then he will take this seriously before he drowns in his own fluids|0 Lets hope so|1 20 of people of a generic population require hospitalizationFor these people mechanical oxygenation is important They also have a severe pneumonia other types of pneumonia are in the 80 who areas not hospitalizedSo yeah with the lack of good hospitalization and the exponentiality off the infection rates up to 20 is possible in a good country there are enough hospital beds for less than 3 of a population so if infection grows into the millions its game overNow if you apply this number to a non generic population an older one like Japan and Italy or one with more obesitydiabetes like the US The 8020 rule and fatality rates get screwedNow Korea has less than 1 for many reasons Early detection ppl still asymptomatic we dont know what will happen after symptoms recovery rates are also the smallest of the world The numbers are skewed because of the cult members being generally young 20s which helps The fear from SARS means that the population is much more fearsome with better hygiene Im talking about masks not the wash your hands bullcrapSo yeah if countries were doing like Korea and Singapore wed have much smaller numbers and can contain the infection The CFR will still vary depending on demographics age illness etc and culture wearing masks skinship etc but at least small numbers|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 I agree with him so I know its the apocalypse Save my soul|1 Its very much a crash just that weve had 3 of them over the last 7 days that its kind of hard to process|0 Yeahyou seem to be acting responsibly and the CDC and the WHO seems to be largely hamstrung for political reasons now when their most neededI wish you all the bestI absolutely empathize with your frustrationI feel it too you are not alone|1 Yea like what prevented that kid from coming to America for experimental treatment that was going to be paid for by the family The UK gov said nah youre going to die|0 That is hogwash you are being fed because masks are in short supply and authorities are trying to curb panic buying1 Why do you think China has forbidden people to leave their homes without a mask2 Why do healthcare workers wear themMasks can keep things in if your sick but they can also keep things out if your healthyGet yourself some masks|0 Not the coronavirus its two common strains of coronavirus volunteers are being infected with not COVID19 httpswwwmylondonnewsnewshealthlondoncoronaviruseastlondonlab17884980|0 Not complaining but couldnt they just stream it Its a bunch of videos|1 Containment is out of the window I am sure Its spreading like fire in Europe now We just dont count everything|1 Yeah I figured as much but I was being conservative I think even if it takes 25 minutes the fact that its a once a year thing means its really not a burden Oil changes happen more often|1 My wife thinks we just got the head or piece of the early virus from the reports Ive read the 2nd time around is much worse I rarely have contact with other people I went handicap in 2009 diagnosed with degenerative nerve damage L4L5S1 I only go out for groceries and to walk my dogs I have to see my doctor every 3 months for script refills It hit me hard since I do minimum physical activity Never felt sick like what hit me I was worried I was going to overtake coldflu medicine I bought over the counter at Walgreens I plan to update my doctor when I see him in April He was surprised the Hospital sent me home without a diagnosis andor medication I live on Maui our hospital is still called Maui Memorial you dont go there to get healthierEdit spelling errors|0 I believe its 2 of the base pay At least thats what it was at Sams Club before I quit in December Did you know that 2 of 1100 is a whopping 022 I didnt know what to do with all of my extra capital gains Ive done the math on this multiple times and I get even more agitated every time I do it For a full time associate that translates to an extra 880 per 40 hour work week|0 My hubby is a massage therapist He shut down completely because hes self employed People keep calling him and asking when he can get them in He flat out said when I dont have to worry about getting my immune compromised wife sick Maybe next month maybe next year Until its completely safe hes not providing any massages|1 I like to gather all my friends together in my rented house to talk about how well never be able to afford a mortgage|1 So many fuck ups My test and release if your just going to have an emergency if it comes back positive|0 The amount of people who claim its no worse than the flulike yes but influenza was a huge pandemic at one point Now we have flu shots etc You should be thanking modern medicine and realizing this is serious|0 Of course theyre undocumented The funny thing is how did the USA let so many undocumented immigrants go past the border Homeland security must be corrupted or lazy I would say both|1 Thats crazy considering even CVS has signs up about it|0 The same people that cry about huge corporations unwittingly beg for legislation that helps large corporations monopolize by driving small business out of profitability|1 So the company gets money but must still pay the worker in full With leave benefits|1 He did bankrupt a casino|0 I would be interested to know whether Chinese data show anything regarding the effects of Corona virus on smokers vs nonsmokersI has asthma as a child but it disappeared when I started smoking When I stopped smoking it returned Not advocating smoking just interested|1 Still got people telling me the flu is worse lmao|0 Put a thick layer of Vicks vapor rub on the bottom of your feet and cover with warm socks It sounds nuts but when I had bronchitis it is the only thing that helped the cough that was keeping me up all night Also helps with chills and aches bc it makes your whole body feel warm Hope you feel better soon|1 And a lot of people are going to go too I saw tons of Facebook comments of people saying the cancellation of the parade was absolutely ridiculous the city listening to media propaganda its just the flu and that theyre going to be at the bars partying it up Im hoping less people will go if the parade is cancelled but after seeing hundreds of comments like this Im not holding my breath on itMy own wifes company is hosting a big party and thats making me super nervous shes not going to be there but shes nervous about going to work next Monday Youd think theyd know better because theyre an events company and theyve had over 100 events cancelled on them this year but nope theyre not even talking about taking precautionary measures there it sounds likeSo yeah in two weeks we might have it thanks to her boss And regardless Chicago is about to get a lot worse|1 Pretty useless result then 1029 of the 1099 are still in the process of recovery or passing away|1 Everything I see here is about the US being fucked more than China idk on one hand I want the virus to stop on the other I want the corruption to go away one way or another|0 East Asian countries are way better equipped to handle this than USA or EU After SAR they all come up with plans to better deal with another pandemic Same reason southern states doesnt know how to deal with a few inches of snow|1 the penny hasnt dropped for you please understand you risk other humans for taking your dog for a walk right now|1 At a 2 morbidity rate if 60m people in the US caught this 12m would die and actually it would be far higher than that due to the severe strain it would put on the hospital system so we would have countless numbers of other people dying to completely unrelated things due to there being no ICU beds availableThe time to panic was 2 weeks ago a week ago now This virus is not containable It is coming to a community near you The oldest will take the initial brunt of it but it will also take a toll on previously perfectly healthy people as wellThe PTB have already thrown in the towel and the measures being taken by them serve only to buy time and put off panic|0 im actually wondering if the tinned princess ham tastes any good D|1 i heard the same from a government person military prep is happening now also heard it from a friend who knows an md in dc that its happening within a few days|1 It says 1 out of 200 people exposed to the virus will get it seems like bullshit|0 Sure some diseases are specific to childhood others are specific to pregnancy others specific to certain geographic areas But overwhelmingly as a group older people have weaker immune systems and are more susceptible to infection|1 Your comment has been removed due to low effortofftopic In the future please refrain from this kind of language This is a warning Thank you|1 1 Close the bars restaurants etc2 Compensate the business for the lost income within reason3 Less overall economic impact|0 Can you recover from mild pneumonia without medical care|0 Hopefully that kid is old enough to remember their grandparents Cause thanks to people like this they are less likely to survive the next year |1 Never heard of this magazine is it like the onion|1 75 women heroes|1 This is such a Plague Inc headline Holy shit|0 Svalbard isnt clear trust me Greenland isnt clear either|0 Chinese hereWish you guys good luck Wish ours hero doctors good luck too|1 With this virus its better to be pro active than reactive Better to call it an emergency earlier than you have to than sit on your hands until its too little to late Cuomo is being prudent hes trying to protect you and your father by gaining access to additional resources to stop the spread|1 and they dont have universal free healthcare Should be fun|1 The only thing Chinese government lacks is political will If the Chinese government devotes half as much effort to squashing the wildlife trade as they do to scrubbing all mention of the Tiananmen incident I am pretty sure it will disappear|1 A week or longer quarantine for every inbound flight is not a sustainable policy all year round The benefit of herd immunity is that it makes you much more resistant to future outbreaksThe point being that while strict quarantine measures can look good in the short term they can cause constant outbreaks in the longer term At this point it is also not known whether there will be a human viable vaccine and it would regardless take a year or longer for it to be tested and mass producedFor example the UK may end up in more pain in the shorter term but much more resilient in the longer term while countries with low herd immunity because of strong quarantine will be suffering constant outbreaks over the longer termThe economic damage in this cannot be ignored either because economic damage also kills people|0 you should help him to save some money suggest toothpicks instead|1 Im sorry dude Youre going to see what its like to be the adult in the family the head of the household and a child caring for their ailing parents all at once Go out and stock up on groceries for them Get canned and prepared foods you and they like to eat at home Buy a crock pot Water and toilet paper too The time to prep in bulk is long past but you can still get at least a couple weeks worth|1 httpswwwctvnewscamobileworldcanadianhealthofficialslooktochinaforlessonsinhowtoprepareforcovid1914827042Some Canadian hospitals are already preparing for a potential outbreak including Ontarios Scarborough Health Network which has 18 beds dedicated for any patients infected with COVID1918 beds for corona virus For a city with population of 621 thousands |0 Giving everything away means he no longer makes money on his money Which means a lot less money given away in the long term What he does now is perfect massively impacting the world while financially staying in position to massively impact the world for the rest of his life Think more than a single layer deep|1 Yep they have it to the world rather than take a hit by themselves It may well have spread still but far slowerWhatever the origin of this virus They surpressed need of it and actively assisted its spread and this should not be forgotten|1 Huh I always assumed the common cold would have a higher R0 value than 123|1 I think its the right decision Im a bit more worried about the economic impact off the whole coronavirus outbreak hereIf hard measures will be taken for businesses that could impact our economy quite hard especially the many SMBs around here would be impacted hardHope those measures dont have to be taken in the near feature else we might be fucked really soonThe SMI has already dropped by 11 only this week so we will see in about a week or so|0 No point closing the border with china anymore the epicenters are in iran and italy now|0 True but that is where the phrase is coming from|1 Its hard to enforce when you have mass disobedience here in New Orleans the mayor banned large gatherings and the next day there were huge gatherings for St Patricks day People are proud of doing whatever they want Now New Orleans is especially suited for failure of social distancing but still|0 But they are bogus They fail to account for the fact that at some point the growth will become logistic The input numbers are also bogus only a few people have even been tested so those numbers are in no way an accurate reflection of how many people have actually been infected alreadyAdditionally doubling ever day is not consistent with other data from other locations which suggests infections doubling closer to 36 daysThe numbers right now are also based on clustered outbreaks at places like a nursing home With such a small number of people infected that does not represent trends in the general populationAccordingly numbers towards the end of the month are probably too high Numbers for the next week could be too high but they could be too low The numbers do not take into account any changes in behavior or preventative measures that may be implementedWhat the numbers do show is how quickly we will find out how bad this is going to be If NY confirmed cases double every day then we will see over 11000 cases by next Saturday But if they only double every 3 days as seems to be the case in other countries then there would be only 356712 people infected by Saturday If it doubles every other day then only 1424By this time next week we will have a much clearer picture|0 we just need to trust the Chinese Government x200Bs|1 At this point weve hit this strange mixture of confirmation bias and the BaaderMeinhof phenomenon A bunch of people all across the US suddenly started hearing all over Twitter Facebook Reddit and mainstream media that there was a massive run on toilet paper no pun intended in Australia and only very loosely knew that it had anything to do with the Coronavirus that was also in the news Then they started hearing about coming quarantines in the US and unfortunately 2 2 clicked in their heads and they ran to the store for TP only to find that it was in short supply because everyone else was doing the sameWe dont even get most of our TP supply from other countries I mean Im sure we get a significant amount from China but nearly every large lumber milling company in the US has a paper products division Do you really think were going to run dry on TP when Weyerhauser BoiseCascade and GeorgiaPacific are all cranking it outOf course not but now were into the confirmation biasselffulfilling prophecy stage In the absence of good advice from federal or local officials all anyone is being told is to NOT buy toilet paper Well these same officials not a month ago said that there werent going to be any quarantines so why should they be trusted about what not to buy So now were going to be stubborn about buying toilet paper eyeroll|1 Release all prisoners convicted of none violent Weed offences and replace them with those assholes|0 I can definitely see that happening My wife I already dont like each other on an average day Lol|1 Keep in mind they are usually only testing people who have the most severe symptoms So these 440 people right now are in a real battle They are nowhere close to flattening the curve yet The curve up has just barely started|0 My officemate today sounded like a plague victim with a death rattle cough Hes from Fulton County where they have a few cases and ended up going home at lunchtime feeling sickI told my boss that coworker better not have coronavirus and the boss said no it was strep throat Greeeeeat He was cleared by a doctor to come back to work as he was past the contagious stage but he still sounded awful|0 50 is old At 50 you should be worried about corona 23 is a outlier not a common age that dies from corona|0 Exactly 100 this This is what Im thinking as well more and more every day|1 Well many of us are worried that rate is going to get worse which it did WHO upped the fatality rate to 34Im not saying youre wrong exactly But this is a weird situation to be in|0 I live here in Oregon so cabin in the woods isnt pretty far to begin with Just deciding to take the 3 hour drive to get far out But its not a leap thats a weekend vacation here|0 I mean youre correct in that there are drugs in prisons but no need to be condescending|0 Just 1 box of hydroxychloroquine 150 tablets would probably have enough pills to treat 15 people if you followed the recommendations made in the paper that was posted here yesterday|1 My wifes grandmother is in her 80s and bought all the hoax talk Trump was spouting a couple weeks back She is eating out and going to movies since this pandemic stuff is all supposedly coming from the media and Democrats|0 It is likely a protocol all governments follow handling epidemic or potential epidemic The last thing anyone wants is a panic public We all need to do our own part to educate and prepare for it|0 Im in Geelong VIC So far no confirmed cases in my area but from what I understand of the virus that means mild cases can still be spreading unchecked in the local area I expect thats a certainty based on the official govt advice in possible low risk cases is dont worry about it actual advice from the hotline personnel|0 That Trump has been exposed to the virus Karmas a btch|0 Oh I know this song How does it go Da da da da daa daa da Fuck Jeff Bezos yeah thats the one|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read 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Literally|1 No it isnt Is this the place for an argument |0 Bill gates has been going on about this type of thing forever Pandemic is literally the second biggest threat to mankind right behind mankind itself Its actually sad to try and milk the economy for every last penny before taking action I dont know why our country always has to look at problems retrospectively instead of proactively|0 Take it easy his brain just controlled by it|1 Youre expecting millennials and Gen Zers to think about people other than themselves even if it might inconvenience themLol Good luck with that Us millennials are the most entitled and selfcentered people in history|1 But the president said it is just a flu What could possibly go wrong |0 Sunday would be a disaster Do it before the weekend so schools can get the appropriate advice to parents and pupils|0 Oh my God I spent an hour trying to explain this concept to my 70 something landlord whom I happen to likeHe refused to grasp the idea that the number of reported cases are low because there arent enough tests to find moreOne of the most frustrating experiences of my life|0 meanwhile our government barely implemented any measures yet everyones crying and screaming that theyll damage the economy and wont anyone think of the economy|0 Folding does yes|1 And all well hear is case confirmed in East TN|1 I mean screw people who scream about bailouts its better than total collapse The problem is that the tax cut last year ballooned the deficit and we have less ability to finance emergency measures without printing cash which has other tradeoffs like inflation Ive heard some ideas like suspending payroll taxes which could be tied to sick leave but theres only so much we can do What Im concerned about is that financial measures wont heal sick people stop infections or open ports that are or will close Regardless of whatever funding comes from the government there will be price gauging on consumer goods due to shortages and supply chains are already being disrupted If that hits food prices and basic services runaway inflation might be on the table|0 Dont forget to add a cup of ammonia for that fresh scent|1 This is nice of the stores but I think it gives people a false sense of safety The only way to not get it is to stay home What if the employees have it What if another senior already has it What if they dont sanitize the check stand properly The virus can live on surfaces for days Are they going to sanitize every product in the store every night I just dont see how its any safer Stay home Reach out to others for supplies and do porch drop off Call your Dollar Store and see if they will deliver Stay home|1 Haha like the working class will see a cent of it bitter|1 Good on you for making it through|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Lol I cant wait to buy cheap homes there after everyone dies|1 Cause then they know how to treat I figure with the semi quarantine measures they assume you will stay home with symptoms|1 Evidence the virus is already widespread AND case fatalities are low Maybe We need widespread testing to get proper statistics|0 Thank you sorry for unloading but its kind ofstressful rn |1 Well indeed italy is at the point that if this would work it would be great news At the moment some people dont get treatment|1 Same place those supplies sent to PR ended upIn the hands of the needy s|0 No nobody in the US could have tested other the cdc supposedly before it went mainstream|0 I dont think youre point answer his point either All he was saying is that its not cultural thing Yours is that France could have done better at the time They can be both trueThat say I think that while valid in terms of looking at the means your point isnt entirely correct when you add a political factor in it First off France and Britain took a long time to start the war I know in France it was due to the fact that a war with Germany was extremely unpopular obviously Second Germany had a secret non agression pact with the USSR which also incidently gave them provisions and materials which did not help consolidating France and Britains position since the German could unknowingly evade their blocus Furthermore on the ground it was 2600 German tanks again 2300 french tank so pretty equal standingsOne time where France and Britain could have tried to strike is when Germany was invading Poland In insight they should definitely have Tanks also where badly used during the fight by the frenchBut mainly I believe the loss came from the rigidity of the military command and its inability to adapt the modern standard no radios on the field not wanting to invest into planes and stuff people getting old and not being so competent They werent reactif enough because of it and the means were underutilized and it was a mess But its true of every democracy who wasnt preparing for war and only the Germans had created an offensive army at the time and thjd she won against all her enemies until 1942 hence two years after they took FranceAnd also Petain was an asshole The guy before him wanted to keepofighting from North Africa but he quit|0 DemocracyDemocracy Greek dmokrata rule by the people is a form of government in which the people exercise the authority of government Who people are and how authority is shared among them are core issues for democratic development and constitution Some cornerstones of these issues are freedom of assembly and speech inclusiveness and equality membership consent voting right to life and minority rightsGenerally there are two types of democracy direct and representative PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 It doesnt help that Trump turned this so partisan from the very beginning There are a bunch who still firmly believe that this is a democrat hoax or an attempt to cost trump the presidency|0 Terrifying Even trained people apparently have no ability to operate properly in these environments|0 Is that what they announced I heard that Medicare Medicaid and the major insurance companies have agreed to cover the cost of testing and to make teledoc available My impression was that those who dont have any insurance or are insured from smaller insurance companies arent necessarily covered for the tests|1 Even with 100 test coverage its still a lagging indicator|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Yeah I really think shes clueless I think she thinks she knows how it is with a newborn but she really doesnt She has a stepson 6 years old who shes known for a few years but he was mostly potty trained by the time she came around She has two siblings who were born a few years ago one is 5 the other is 4 So she saw them as babies And then shes in school to be an early childhood education teacher But none of those come close to preparing you In all honesty nothing really does until you do have one yourself Hopefully once she has her son shell realize how serious this whole situation is Though she probably wont be able to even breathe for the first month so may not even pay attention to the world thats how I was at least with my first|1 Is everything in life about prioritizing the economy over other peoples livesI mean buildings transportation and infrastructure can be made so much safer in countless ways but they arent due to the economic impact|1 Perhaps the quality will go down but I suspect hospitals and doctors will still want to be competitive for heath care dollars When people avoid treatment because they have no insurance they often end up with more serious conditions They either go bankrupt or the hospital eats the cost|0 Of course they were praised for the response They already have the cure always did They know the rest of the world doesnt|1 Im from Spain and the situation is similar to Italy and it seems to be the same in the future a great postGuys this is not a joke be careful|1 thank you very much i appreciate the help youre giving us esp compared to the help given to us by the international community were in|1 Honestly a solid idea with everything shutting down|1 Theyd almost certainly give notice It would make the most sense to set up quarantines for people returning instead of outright stranding them|1 Watch the ending of this VICE clip on Indias right wing nationalism and the response given by an Indian government officialYou have not seen India correctly Your eyes are misleading Please correct your eyeshttpsyoutubeBMqkG6VMn4o|0 Italys probably not prioritising finding all the asymptomatic cases because their resources are already stretched Chances are the actual number of people infected is much higher than their official figure not due to intentional fudging of numbers but just because they havent been prioritising finding all the mild casesThis means the actual hospitalisation rate would be lower if we had correct numbers|0 Dont get me wrong I get that aspect And yeah Im probably underestimating just how hard the CDC was hit by those cuts made by the current administration I just think even with those financial cuts some of the more basic tasks like shipping testing kits could still be easily performed But I cant speak as an authority on the capacity of staffing needed to do that So Im probably speaking from ignorance admittedly|1 This really is not a cause for concern They are going to be testing a fuck ton of people for symptoms and the vast majority are going to come back negative Theyve been doing this for a while now All it takes to get your symptoms tested are to have wheezingcoughfever without influenza or common cold The hospital even said this is likely not coronavirus they are just making sure and they dont want people to worry that being said there is almost no doubt that someone in NYC hashad this virus NYC has the largest chinese population of any city outside of Asia But if this was spreading rapidly we would know I believe part of the reason why NYC might be a bit isolated from the virus is that most of the cities Chinese population comes from one region whereas Californias Chinese population tends to be much more spread out|0 Why are we trying to diagnose this online The post giving the state number to call is the best advice|1 From the fact that they keep changing it First it was no H2H then it was well H2H but through respiratory droplets and then H2H but probably fecaloral route This makes me feel that they have no idea what it is so it cant be as simple as same as SARS But I could be extrapolating incorrectly|0 Oops yes thanks|1 He made a Facebook post about it His speaking engagement which was at an Arkansas hospital has been cancelled and he has been replaced He is in canned response mode httpswwwfacebookcom894725513949143posts2725295187558824|1 What about the other candidate Hes old as fuck too|0 Some journalist should ask the WHO what they think about this If they want to stop fearmongering they need to get real with the people Who can we trust|1 Why would Democratic candidates talk about a viral outbreak in China when our own president is praising an authoritarian dictator for his handling of itAmerican industry shut down in the US because countries like China and Mexico started offering production prices we couldnt refuse AND as Americans most of us think too highly of ourselves to do any sort of manual labor Were also too cheap to pay more for things when there was a choice to buy Made in America versus something made more cheaply overseasAs far as your other comment The only violent reckoning will come when Orangina refuses to leave the White House after inauguration resulting in charging him with criminal trespassing and the Secret Service has to call in his Saudi Arabian friends to buzzsaw his hands out of the shackles he used to tie himself to a West Wing staircase bannister|1 Thats the point We all need to behave like we already have the virus Waiting for a test to confirm it is way past the point of infecting others At this point we need to assume that everyone around us has the virus Its the only way to stop the spread|1 That cruise ship lady in Cambodia was a false positive Not sure what type of test she had|1 Having just moved back stateside from Naples I can firmly attest that Italians are about the most warm and vibrant of any nationality ever This affirming gesture of theirs doesnt surprise me That said they must be suffering terribly for lack of the social contact Its the heartbeat of their culturePrayers for Italy We love you|1 The death rate will go up as our healthcare is overwhelmed make no mistake|0 Now why would the local government cover it up instead of going to the National govenrnment Could it be because of fear of the national government|0 Interestingly enough even outside of those four we havent seen a huge spike in cases in the rest of Southeast Asia despite these other countries not having such a developed health care system or stringent contract tracing Plus population density is huge in that region so youd think in theory it would be a great place for the virus to spread Yet official cases there are far lower than in Europe and the US Im sure there are more cases than reported because some of these countries dont test as much but at the same time I feel like if there was a huge outbreak similar to Korea or Iran we wouldve heard reports about it by now Even without masks it appears areas with this combination of climate and weather may help limit the spread of the virus|1 Youre a good person|1 Hey the fence around us sheep is to keep predators out Trust the shepherds|1 Well said|1 I work with 5 people who meet that criteria We work in medical imaging so there is no stock up and stay home Along with the other 5000 people that work in our healthcare system My hands are destroyed from all the washing just like they are every winterflu season|0 Buy stuff that has long shefl life but that you eat normally so its not a shock to your digestion and if the outbreka doesnt happen you just eat it normally as part of your dieRice Pasta dried foods canned goods are all good choices|1 This is funny however I see some people actually doing this the shooting due to a sneeze Thats the scary thing|0 Um I would say the government doesnt care about their citizenrys right to information Its funny for a place that touts freedom the message being sent is convincing me that it is all an illusion|1 Im an ODP working in the operating theatres of a district general hospitalThe anaesthetic assistants and recovery nurses are being trained to support ITU staff and anaesthetic ventilators will be used to support patients struggling to breathe|1 Its literally a sequel lol|1 Using a few single digit length amino acid sequences to draw a comparison to HIV out of 10000 amino acids isnt really worth mentioning When I worked on a bacterial protein a single different amino acid can completely negate the function of an enzyme One cysteine missing can cause a useless protein to arise|0 This is very true They interact with way more people than the average person who sees the same handful of people everyday|1 About damn time|0 15 of patients require hospital care including 5 who require critical care to survive When hospital beds starts to run out and theres not enough healthcare workers to take care of the sick the mortality rate is going to skyrocket|1 Hard Labor Creek State Park further evidence this timeline is a B movie|0 Out of 2714 cases in Hubei province only 47 have been cured so far Thats the fucking terrifying bit|0 Yes Exactly have a nice dayIm not going to fight you I want you to be a better youAgain have a nice day|1 First stage denialPeople are tired of stress so they are trying to forget themselves|0 He would be insane to do this but I wouldnt be a bit surprised if he did His supporters could be on their death beds with no insurance and theyd still love him |0 My kids are all grown and in their 30s I STILL remember the pain Yep|0 You too Im just very concerned about peoples blanket approach to the shut down as Im worried about my friends family for exampleThey are currently living without a kitchen it is due to be fitted at the end of the month theyre terrified of being locked down for 3 months without being able to cook or prepare meals properly for their children|0 Can anybody comment on yesterdays update form the Japans Defence MinisterStates 410 asymptomatic cases and 230 recoverieshttpstwittercomkonotarogomamestatus1235688175726514177s19|1 Korea should be a good case study in a few weeks time They have a very high test rate which should show the milder cases something we cannot yet see in other countries However we have to wait for the Illness to make people sick and die or recover before we can get a truer rate A better study maybe the diamond princess They tested everyone on board the ship Given it is a cruise ship you would assume that it had a higher number of aged people so the death rate on that study should give us a good view of the worst case rate|0 This may be a good thing If they all get sick maybe they will start making better decisions about this kind of thing going forward|1 Lol Guess I should have worded that better |1 Welcome to the big leagues there are over 25 million of us|1 What happens in phase 6 do they shut schools and things like that|1 Option 3 has some serious hurdles SARS was hard to create a vaccine for since it causes issues when infected with the virus afterwards Its looking like nCoV might do the same but Im hoping they can avoid that pitfall|1 Have you possibly considered that some of the anonymous people on reddit have other conditions I have respiratory issues which puts me at risk Ive had pneumonia several times and its not like a fun lil cold you can get over in a week or even a month Even though it looks like Im a normal healthy 23 year old|0 Thank you And I appreciate it Since Sunday Ive been locked in my room trying to avoid anyone thankfully I live alone I was planning on doing that just in case it was Coronavirus for some reason Im in San Diego but they want to be shipped l assholes at work then I guess Im taking them all out with me|0 Maybe hes finally growing a pair and is intentionally trolling Dear Leader to a degree|1 Nope Israel wins that one look at the last hour posts its somewhere in thereSomething to do with kids should be desinfecting the streets because it doesnt seem to affect them|0 Except thats only talking about this particular variant We dont know how many variants there are but it could have been any one of them so the pvalue should be inflated Essentially a standard multiplecomparisons correction The fact that this person made this basic statistical mistake makes me wonder about their other conclusions too|0 Its not even hard to google this literally took me seconds to search the oregongovhttpsoregongov and portlandoregongovhttpsportlandgov sites to discover that the State of Oregon levies an income tax and that individual cities can also levy a sales tax|1 Im just a lowly registered nurse Not very high on the ranking of medical personnel but enough knowledge to benefit some people and maybe to encourage people to ask and learn things Thanks for the compliment |1 Best idea ever|1 Lol over what 5 day panic attack K|0 is illegal in Iran|0 Comedy is writing itself at this point|1 At the very least we can have a laugh for a moment to lighten the mood |1 I am not going to dig through persian social media to prove a point All I can say is that the existence of mass graves is widespread knowledge Its mostly in Qom right now Its the religious center of Iran and is the center of the epidemic Where do you think they are burying all these people Iran is worse than Italy right now|0 yeah but itll do wonders for gdp per capita|1 They know what they are doing Dont jam the system unnecessarily STAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKThere is no known cure so youll need to just suffer through it You will get better Just stay away from other people so you dont contribute to the spread|0 Nice video|1 First recorded death By all accounts Covid19 has been circulating since Novemberearly December and the latest Li Wenliang raised the alarm on 1230 so it was being discussed in the community before the first death even between nonpath specialists Either way Im shocked too In lieu of live patient data post death pathological data is the most important information that could be provided early in an outbreak situation|0 Interesting You said youve taken it for 10 years is it something that counteracts the immune suppression Also I have just been worrying due to the mystery A lot of articles are very reassuring and positive to me yet always have a footnote that says people with weak immune systems arent included in that good news Then again with one suppression drug for me personally I have no idea about my defense so im calling my RN Good luck to you as well Hope research gets us some answers soon|1 I am a public sector employee with a noncritical job and I want this so badly but Im not sure if I will get paid My agency was super cagey when they talked about paying people to stay home during the public safety power shut offs after the California fires they refused to officially say that they were sending us home because then it meant they had to pay us for the emergency So they just said they strongly advised us not to come in because none of the computers will be working Assholes|0 I agree time is of the essence Ill be removing my daughter from school over the next couple weeksI can feel it|0 Hey neighbor got any we can borrow Fuck no were all out ourselves|0 No it should not be yet Yesterday was 600more because of delayed info Also 10 less tests done today compared to yesterday China quarantined at like 800 infected and look at what happened|0 I keep telling all the people in my life who think its just the flu that things dont shut down like this for the annual flu They still dont get it Idk when the fuck they will|0 Im into it Was super pumped for St Patricks day weekend in LA but guess Ill wait until next year|0 Ok but where do the children of healthcare and other essential workers go What do the poor kids eat|0 Minus Trump Good idea|1 Fuck off N45 is not even a real designation and N95 means it filters with 95 efficiency Additionally the virus itself is smaller than what an N95 mask filters but it will catch most of the droplets that carry the virus It is not a guarantee|0 President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted most not well the first line was about all I need to read of an opinion article|0 I think it could be completely true It could also be a communications strategy I think this government and political leadership at the federal level have been extremely strategic Theyve been warning the public in a sort of stern manner for weeks now while also trying to quell panic Canadians have been ramping up their preparedness in preparation to selfisolate The PM tweeting calmly that they await tests and he is working from home is example setting and 100 in line with the Trudeau brand Im for it There was a dramatic shift in the zeitgeist today and everyone seems to be getting on boardEdit It is True Sophie Gregoire Trudeau confirmed to have Covid19|1 Can confirm 4 being my favorite number|1 This isnt true Very easy to find sources 3120 A man in his 40s admitted to EvergreenHealth has died It is unknown at this time if he had underlying health issues 3220 A male in his 50s hospitalized at Highline Hospital No known exposures He is in stable but critical condition He had no underlying health conditions|0 Im sorry to hear that thats awful Keep an eye on your symptoms and try to stay away from people Hope you feel better soon|1 Brain cells dont know the medical lingo but you can look this up The virus uses ace2 receptors to bind infiltrate and reproduce Therefore spreading the infection in a body Ace2 receptors are found in different parts of the body Lungs testes kidneys maybe I am not sure about the infection spreading to the brain A quick google search tells me that a person needs a fever over 108 F in order to have brain damage From what I have read fever caused by coronavirus is mild The infection festers and replicates until the host either fights it off or it takes hold in lungs and gastrointestinal system I am not a virologist BUT I doubt hope this virus does mutate to somehow affect the brain Now that would be the stuff of a zombie apocalypse Brain eating coronavirus Fml|1 BuT daMn OuR aIrcRaFt caRrieRs aRe baDaSss|0 How long till panic buying|0 Plausible deniability keep them tourists coming Notice that they didnt mention the part of that legislation that specifically allows for exemption when a medical case pertains to a public health threat |0 Everyone likes to tout about how they would reaction in a situation and how the government would be overthrown etc etcLook at that Millions Tens of millions More Just sit there and take it Im not saying Id be any different but there are a few powerful people out there right now with a giant boner just thinking about how much people will take before they snap or just give up instead|1 It probably did come from bats via an intermediate snake species in the wet market as suspected There are loads of opportunities in that environment for a virus to mutate into a form that can spread in humans The black plague has been around for literally thousands if not tens of thousands of years repeatedly jumping to human hosts and spreading around the world We know this from DNA evidence extracted from mass burial sites left from the various outbreaks So we definitely know from experience that a virus can both travel long distances and mutate freely and reemerge dozens hundreds or thousands of years later in a human population after being largely isolated to animalsx200BIf your suggestion is that some part of this is implausible for a virus because a few decades passed or because there was some distance between two locations frequented by a mammal species that can fly long distances and has migratory patterns I have to say its a pretty weak argumentx200BIf you want to point to lab release just point to the numerous papers talking about the multiple accidental lab releases of virus that China has had over the decades since the first SARS outbreak or the same for other countries like Russia US or the UK that have happened since WW2 You dont need to get into tinfoil hat territory to make an argument in favor of accidental release of thats what you are trying to get at and if you think this was on purpose I dont know what to tell you aside from Dont attribute to malice what can be easily be attributed to stupidity|1 Amazon reselling on steroids|1 this is what Im seeing as well less airborne and more fomite transmission also limited asymptomatic spread|1 Help them how exactly Were all out of masks breathers nurses and doctors The sanitary system is also not the same across the country and the best one is in the red regions meaning once we start to peak even down here well be in even deeper shit And we will cause a bunch of idiots fled south in the very early days spreading the virus everywhere If they had stayed the fuck at home maybe we would have been able to help them without having hundreds of sick people to tend to And yes Im pissed Our family doctor just had to enter quarantine after visiting one of those dickheads coming into his country home from Milan who then tested positive|1 Its a zinc ionophore that allows zinc to pass through the cell membrane Zinc disrupts and prevents the virus replication in the affected cell|0 Ffp3 is essentially the European equivalent of an N99 respirator N99 is more effective than n95 so your ffp3 respirator is more than acceptable|1 Last I read the largest manufacturer of masks in the US publicly stated they arent ramping production up or hiring more employees to do so as they were concerned that the virus would just go away and they would be left with a bunch of stock they couldnt sell This was weeks ago so the issue we have is incompetence and greed|0 The US has a weird fetish for federalism no matter what|0 The user being rude to you is completely wrong You are correct these tests can be optimized to run quite a few at a time They are not sequential|0 Nonsense CEOs get fired and retire all the time Dog bites man|0 bruh are we gonna die or not|0 As my wife would say stop dwelling on the past loser|0 The main reason Im not too worried about a month is this is her second job She picks up maybe a shift every 2 months Her main job unfortunately is across the street at a different restaurant So I know it wouldnt hurt her financially having all of us ask the other girls picking up shifts to take em instead of calling her So to be safe it doesnt even harm her but still protects us The others wanted to go over to that place and tell them and I said to leave it be I obviously cant control them either but I thought it through pretty well to be least harmless for everyone surrounding the situation|1 Omg are you kidding me The only people being tested are ones that were in China or Italy A few on their death beds The original outbreak at the in patient facility where 13 patients diedthey didnt even test those people Its fine to have pride in your country its not ok to completely ignore the shitty things being done to our people though That isnt patriotism its fanaticism|0 Please expound upon this The state governmentEdit Looks like the city of Austin made them cancel Good on Austin|1 True story Now is the time to take care of each other Even if its just a virtual domino game|1 Isnt that likely to be because theyre the ministers most likely to be interacting with public health officials who are more likely to have been dealing with healthcare professionals who are actually closer to infected patients Im not really sure what the conspiracy could be here|0 Ok No worries Ive got an idea how to do that already I have made some taco mix so can use that and make a sauce to cook it in|0 What freaks me out is money Im a cashier How many people have touched the money Im touching How many people with the virus have touched the money Im touching I have no fucking clue|0 Geeze you sound like a miserable cunt|0 Thank you |1 f course they get tested to determine the cause of death what are you talking about200 pneumonia deaths since January in GermanyNot a single one got tested for SARSCoV2|0 National security issue surrounding the viruss origin maybe or just trying to prevent the press jumping on opportunities to drive panic could be two logical reasons Or the military is going to be involved in the pandemic response and that needs to be kept classified for security reasons|1 I am the last person to advocate for hysteria or panic That helps no one But we should all be mindful of this disease and how wide it can possibly spread It is highly virulent and more deadly than the regular fluAny research we gain from this disease can also be applied to other coronaviruses A good thing no matter how you feel about COVID19|0 This is becoming worse than Wuhan|0 You know she is tough if she lived to 103|0 Here in Germany you can get 2 weeks off work with a telephone call Do this if you can Most people are not as important to the daily functioning of the planet as they think they are Are you really If its worse in 2 weeks it will probably be extended If its better in 2 weeks you helped save the world|1 This is the kind if action we lower class citizens need from the companies we depend upon for our daily needs This post warmed my heart |1 I do this as well and didnt realize it wasnt a thing until my husband made fun of me for it |1 Isnt that gross negligence and possible manslaughter if anyone dies|1 Oh god I live in Texas How does a grown adult go about getting adopted by someone in a European country with better healthcare and no guns Asking for me|1 This fills me with dread Im 2 years deep in remission but still|0 httpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpcoronavirusrallyremarkWhats TrueDuring a Feb 28 2020 campaign rally in South Carolina President Donald Trump likened the Democrats criticism of his administrations response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him saying this is their new hoax During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak comparing it to the common fluWhats FalseDespite creating some confusion with his remarks Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax|0 But you wont ever forget it|1 Sorry but it must be a nightmare to govern a country like France|1 Im in the biofield and Im pretty sure you guys pioneered RTPCR technology Politicians are just being politicians and my understanding is that their claim doesnt represent the US scientific body|1 Two will die unfortunately|0 Not all the sick only the one showing symptoms We know this virus can spread asymptomatically and they did not test everyone Likely there are others infected Knowing that it can also spread fecaly it is a bit concerning if the ships sewage system can handle it and not be another case of how one man with SARS infected 800 in his building through the plumbing system|0 I just checked I cant book a flight to China Italy no problem|0 Wait seriously In Seattle|0 Theres no question it has to be all over the country by now especially with how quick its been spreading|0 Zombieland was right Good cardio is how you survive the apocalypse|1 Didnt that osterholm guy bring up that it possibly is an airborne illness|0 Interesting they mention coughing up blood Steve Wozniak Apple and his wife returned from Hong Kong in January They both became very sick and his wife coughed up blood Theyve since asked to be tested for coronavirus but have been told theres no test presently that can detect if youve ever had the virus|0 The way this virus is estimated to spread causes its infected numbers to explode on the back end Please look at the analysis below which shows the number of cases that would occur if the first one began on Jan 8th and then doubled every 24 days based on estimates by the Los Alamos National Laboratory see httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1fullpdf The surge on the medical system may be coming in a several weeksWeek 1 Jan 8Jan14On Day 1 2 people will be infected24 Days later 4 people48 Days later 8 people72 Days later 16 peopleWeek 2 Jan 15Jan2196 Days later 32 people12 Days later 64 people144 Days later 128 peopleWeek 3 Jan 22Jan28168 Days later 256 people192 Days later 512216 Days later 1024Week 4 Jan 29Feb424 Days later 2048264 Days later 4096288 Days later 8192Week 5 Feb 5Feb11312 Days later 16384336 Days later 3276836 Days later 65636Week 6 Feb 12Feb18384 Days later 131072408 Days later 262144432 Days later 524288Week 7 Feb 19Feb 25456 Days later 104857648 Days later 2097152502 Days later 4194304 Week 8 Feb 26Mar2 Where we are now526 Days later 838860855 Days later 16777216574 Days later 33554432 Week 9 Mar 3Mar9598 Days later 67108864622 Days later 134217728 646 Days later 268435456 Week 10 Mar 10100 of the US population 328 has been infectedNote 295mm 32833 people will be infected between March 3 to March 10 under these assumptions They will begin to show symptoms between March 17 23 assuming 14 day incubation 80 estimated to be mild 20 or 55 million estimated to be acutesevere cases that may need hospitalizationThe illness lasts approximately two to three weeks Under this scenario most illness would resolve by April 14 to April 21This is all rough justice Many questions remain Such as Are people contagious after they recover Can they be reinfected Are they immune Will the virus mutate further Does it remain dormant in your body and flair up later|0 I mean if all the schools are closed the job obviously has to care Thats why we all do it at the same time One month|1 Thank you my man|1 Sure quarantine while pumping out fake infection and death numbers trying to downplay the severity so as to not lose face along with the WHO refusing to declare a pandemic and also downplaying all while declaring we should keep travel to China open And you wonder why some countries didnt take this seriously when both the CCP and WHO were covering things up acting like its not a big deal China suppressing information coming out of Wuhan showing the true scope jailing bloggers Only people that were really digging into things such as those on this Reddit were the ones that knew the truthThe current numbers right now of 80k infected and 3k dead in China are an absolute joke as well We all know those numbers are many many times higher|0 Thanks I wish thatd be reported in the title|1 Ridiculous|0 China caused the virus with its medievil eating and sanitation practices and likely tens of thousands if not millions will die because of that and the world economy will go into a recession Theyve lied about their data and about the virus since the start so theres NO reason to think their datas credible now Also scroll all the way down and watch as all comments calling out Chinas bullshit have been downvoted to oblivion by the Chinese Communist Partys professional internet troll army 50 cent army httpsenwikipediaorgwiki50CentParty|0 Hyperbole exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally|0 You dont have parents grandparents uncles elders What about your schoolteachers Your bosses How about your friends families Ever meet your friends mom|1 stage a large public gatheringYes lets all go make matters worse This is absolutely not the time to do this type of shitI understand your line of thinking it is definitely an opportunity for radical impact that does not come often but the cost to public health cannot be ignored Things are already going to shake up massively of course it wont affect the 1 as much as everyone else but purposefully exposing yourselves to a virus that can kill or bankrupt you wont make anything better for anyone|0 My boss has been there since Monday and I dont think hes planning on coming back for another week Great|1 Ok Jesus Christ dude Do you not understand that people say things and the medias job is to tell you what they saidFrom your first articleThe World Health Organizations top official on Tuesday repeated concern that moves that interfere with transportation and trade could harm efforts to address the crisis though he didnt directly name the United StatesThey actually did say that so the report that they said that is accurateIf you have a problem with that statement its with the WHO and Politico is letting you know about itYou need to understand that the media are not experts from the WHO thats not their job they are just the messengers|0 Were not a unified society to deal with something like this People despite authorityenforcement they will happily ignore any news until its too late|1 Man that so true It feels like I have been reading nothing but bad news for weeks already My anxiety is already causing physical problems I dont know how much longer I can cope with this The worse part is that we really dont have an end date it almost feels like its going to be this way forever|1 No I made an online application in January and had a facetoface within a few days although the part about waiting 5 weeks is true|1 Were only noticing the 21st what about the 14thDirectly answering your question bothHow did the infection get introduced to the ship in the first place How long ago has it been circulating on boardIf its in the crew theyre going to be exposing multiple sets of passengers as they rotate through Those passengers enjoy shore excursions and close quarters aboard ship Then everybody heads to other points or returns home Even the crew was rotated maybe some people have ended their contract and either go home or maybe get assigned to other ships|1 The people deserve sympathy not the government|1 thank you enlighted city bugman|1 Welcome to 21 century where politicians fail and engineers fix their mistakes|0 It appears to have a base in the BBC 4 pandemiccontagion show and pandemic simulator app from 2018 httpswwwbbccoukprogrammesp059y0p1The modeling done is interesting perhaps even compelling however end figures at the 4 month range could be suggestive to a government to allow a burn through and apply any money that would have been spent after the crisis The model however does not include any knock on effects whatsoever that would or are complicating things right now Like wanting to live|1 I for one am shocked|0 Im not particularly fond of flu or pneumonia either|0 1 Current CDC testing protocols are way too strict For example if you have been to China and have fever cough CDC wont test unless you require hospitalization This last requires hospitalization requirement needs to be dropped yesterday2 The areas of concern to trigger testing need to be expanded Singapore Hong Kong Malaysia etc If the UK are already issuing such guidance why are we so slow to react3 FDA needs to approve private testing CDC seems unable to cope with all the testing required so why not approve some private labs to conduct testing as well4 Panic wont help at all Thats why people need to be educated at this time while the crisis hasnt hit us yet What to do if you have mild symptoms Wash your hands wear a mask dont go to crowded public spaces dont go to Hospital but instead talk to your doctor phone and self quarantine at home For example Singapore prime minister gave an excellent presentation yesterday5 Setup a hotline for ANYONE who thinks they may have symptoms and give them instructions on what to do depending on severity If symptoms are severe and need to go to hospital make sure to call ahead first so that hospitals are prepared to receive you|1 Thanks for this uCamron|1 Yeah I think the fact they get it faster then anyone else is obviously a indication of how being the richest makes you have access to health services faster then most people which isnt a good sign but if a bunch of people who many of the populations idolize actually get it then I hope it would turn all the naysayers about this virus into more informed citizens|1 AstroturfingAstroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization eg political advertising religious or public relations to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the sources financial connection The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass as a play on the word grassroots The implication behind the use of the term is that instead of a true or natural grassroots effort behind the activity in question there is a fake or artificial appearance of support50 Cent PartyThe 50 Cent Party or 50 Cent Army Chinese is a colloquial term for Internet commentators Chinese who are hired by Chinese authorities in an attempt to manipulate public opinion to the benefit of the Communist Party of China It was created during the early phases of the Internets rollout to the wider public in China The name derives from the allegation that commentators are said to be paid 050 for every post though some speculate that they are probably not paid anything for the posts instead being required to do so as a part of their official Party duties They create favourable comments or articles on popular Chinese social media networks that are intended to derail discussions that are unhelpful to the Communist Party and that promote narratives that serve the governments interests together with disparaging comments and misinformation about political opponents and critics of the Chinese government both domestic and abroad PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 dont care|0 Wouldnt they be presumed to have it and be asked to self isolate I dont see the point in prioritizing testing for them when they should be quarantined regardless|0 Most definitely|1 Most conspiracy theorists are chronically full of shit|0 Dumbass hipster quote Not surprised SXSW is acting this way When Google is cancelling IO its time for these conferences to reconsider|0 In Colorado we are an at will state which i believe means the employer can fire you for any reason unrelated to being a member of a protected classEDIT downvote why Am I wrong If so please tell me instead of just down vote and move on thats lazy|0 Why do so many people get excited by this zinc ionophore thing There are at least 3 mechanisms of action that are more direct and convincing Is it because people want to believe that they can help themselves by eating more zinc The better known mechanisms are1 Directly inhibits virus replication by altering the pH of endosomes and causing the virus to fail to reach the cells cytoplasm2 Suppresses cytokine storm its used to treat autoimmune diseases3 Inhibits proper glycosylation of ACE2 so the virus has fewer receptors it can use to enter the cellLets just say that PLOS ONE the journal the zinc ionophore paper is in is not highly regarded in the world of science Its like almost the last resort when you cant get your paper into a better journal but still considered a legit journal|1 Bioweapons are meant to be containable Coronavirus would be a really shit bioweapon in that regard|0 if you read the comments above noone even checked up on her she could have just thrown the paper out to trash and it would have done the same amount of good|1 The downsides exist if you boil down human existence to needing to labor for sustenance if meaning can be derived from more than mere survival which I see no reason why it couldnt then the downsides dissipate quickly Unless youre speaking of something entirely different You can build and create things without having it be a requirement for your survival Scientific discoveries in a broader way is very much a process of discovery and creativity materialized ivory towers have gotten us where precisely society is thwart with depression and anxiety people are more isolated than ever and it will continue to spiralYes Theyre isolated because the entire premise of a market economy is competitive which pits you incessantly against the interests of others and as you alluded to drains you of whatever energy you might need to extend into the social realm The problem of social isolation goes beyond mere work ethic and has much more to do with the core tenets of societal affairs which all boil down to labor being required for income for survival If time is money and money is survival I cant have time for you If even bonobos organize in a territorial and exclusionary manner under resource stress I dont see how humans dont do the same thing with even worse psychosocial stress involved Our politics arent anywhere near the level of development that our technologies are As a software engineer Im sure youre already aware of the sheer power of tracking production distribution technologies at play in companies like Amazon Walmart which if applied on a larger societal scale without the need to maximize financial efficiency could open up an entire new economic model predicated on optimal resource use and distribution over cyclical turnover and the maximizing of transactions|0 Oh thank god sanity|1 China has 14 billion people Even if we lose half the country can still function China has survived worse in its 6000 year history Still an unimaginable tragedy|0 So why do you guys like this Ive been saying how amazingly retarded and unbelievable this rule is in my comments below and Ive been downvoted like theres no tomorroweven been accused of being a wumao lolPlease explain|0 Please trust the Chinese government The situation is tensre but the best Chinese scientists are working on a vaccine The quarantine measures are having great effect on containing this devil virus|1 Ill have you know many of them did shower for the occasion Three years ago Because it rained and they didnt bring an umbrella or jacket|0 I found this paper interesting as well The Rate of Underascertainment of Novel Coronavirus 2019nCoV Infection Estimation Using Japanese Passengers Data on Evacuation Flightshttpswwwmdpicom2077038392419|1 Honestly its good to be prepared but try and see some perspective What makes this potentially worse than any other flu is just the fact that weve not seen it before and do not yet have solid treatments vaccines That said there are encouraging studies coming in thick and fast on possible treatmentsItaly has been hit badly certainly but Italy has the one of the highest rates of death from normal flu too 24981 people died in Italy of influenza between 2016 and 2017 httpswwwijidonlinecomarticleS1201971219303285fulltexthttpswwwijidonlinecomarticleS1201971219303285fulltext If you are 22 youve lived through any number of epidemics that all had the potential to kill millions of people yet none of them did and youre still here Governments are rightly taking this extremely seriously but if world leaders genuinely thought we were all going to die soon then theyd be sat in a bunker somewhere rather than holding press conferences|0 And he is over 70 Not good|0 So suddenly the BBC is to be trusted again after lefties spent the last year vilifying itI am left wing I am just astounded by the ridiculous anti Tory bias that permeates this sub Its like you guys hate Tories so much you WANT the country to collapse as soon as possible so you can say I told you soNo other countries responses arent working Theyre all fucked why do you want to copy them Do you know how many people on this sub Ive seen completely misunderstand what Boris said about loved ones dying Ive seen people arguing many loved ones will be lost is the exact same as them saying your elderly relatives have to die as part of the plan The irony of this sub talking about how dumb the British electorate is|0 Maybe if people like you stop with your assumptions first Im sure wed all appreciate that as well |1 I really like the nonparty takes on the outbreakChinese official media giving us the run around|1 Shes practically begging us to hate her|0 Yeah better than bailing out Wallstreet with our money|1 Twitter may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial accountshttpshelptwittercomenmanagingyouraccountabouttwitterverifiedaccountsRemember that anyone can write whatever they want to on Twitter and that Twitter content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats not right Typical flu season in Italy kills 1500020000httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS1201971219303285|0 If we act now and sacrifice some elements of normalcy we will have earned our right to return to it in the weeks to months ahead If we give up and do nothing then there wont be a normal to return to The closures are a sign things are coming under control not that they are completely out of control I trust you a lot of events you wanted to see will be back on in fall or be bigger and better next year Look ahead to the sigh of relief when cases have been declining for two straight days The extended flexibility to working rights given by governments may become permanent and shitty governments will have to answer for their lack of reaction and face the music at the polls There can be untold advances in science as a result|1 Although genomic evidence does not support the idea that SARSCoV2 is a laboratory construct it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here and it is unclear whether future data will help resolve this issue From the link provided Seems like theyre leaning towards no|1 Ah yes comrade|1 Look at the numbers under the confirmed total Countries ranked by cases Theres no country in 6 digits let alone 7|0 Hopefully we get more drastic measures announced after tomorrows meeting|1 This is just a language expression dont take it too serious my friend You can think of it as a joke|1 But if your area has nothing confirmed or suspected theres no reason to stay home Thats just unnecessary panic|0 An emergency injection of Botox will fix that|0 exactly besides Ive been told its a hoax anyway|0 Yep perfect example These are the people we are supposed to count on when this hits Say what you want about China but at least the average citizen and ESPECIALLY medical staff is at least familiar with this virus I went to the store yesterday and the only other person wearing a mask was an Asian woman She knows whats up|1 You httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4135953 Mean httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6178114 Vaccineshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed25520500 Like httpsstmsciencemagorgcontent7301301ra132tabpdfThese httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200217951939v1fullpdfhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2612543|1 Right this virus is all just a big conspiricy aimed at stopping peaceful French people from happily donning a yellow vest and throwing rocks of freindship at shop windows|1 Just keep your eyes open There will be community efforts to reach elderly who are too afraid to leave their homes Maybe contact your local news station and ask what theyre doing as a community effort to help the elderly this is the kind of human interest story that they jump on|1 35 or so voted for this monster and the nation and world have to suffer for it|0 IMO I think they are trying to protect their nurses so they dont just stop showing up to workTheir nurses are being pulled out of quarantine The law should be stepping in and forcing their quarantines|1 Ha I gotta say Ive recognized your comments a lot and can see that there is a solid group of people mostly on this sub who actually seem to have their heads screwed on straightWe have to be vigilant sure But we have to be levelheaded and accepting of the plainly inevitable risks too There seems to be this focus on testing that is almost becoming toxic in its simplicity Test to do what exactly To stop it Set up draconian lockdown zones Have the military surround Seattle and weld doors shut Then what The virus flares up again the second you let your foot off its throatUndoubtedly the US fell behind with a crappy test due to a designmanufacturing error And we could certainly use testing strategically to identify and contain local hot spots But again I think people have their heads in the entirely wrong state of mind about this thing They still treat it like fighting a war we will beat back the enemy until every last man surrenders and we vanquish the foe We will test we will find all the virus particles and we will exterminate them allNo its more like standing in front of a wave at the beach and letting it crash into you without knocking you to your feet We have to let this wash over us relatively harmlessly That will require shorttomedium term behavior modification testing or not Thats essentially Japan right now They know exactly what the problem is and the true nature of the solution so they dont fret about looking at it|0 Another candidates is Li Wenliang The doctor from Wuhan who blew the whistle is China and ultimately died from the virus fighting it on the frontlines httpswwwcnncom20200206asialiwenliangcoronaviruswhistleblowerdoctordiesintlindexhtml|0 yo FR if u get confirmed can you confirm me LOL|1 Great ideai like it|1 httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030520030502v1These are cases with mostly cold like symptoms which clearly had COVID19 Most sophisticated lab work done on them so far|1 80 was from the hip granted But Im in the nighborhood Makes one gasp I know Even if it was 30 it would be a big deal Perhaps CDC was the wrong proper noun The Federal pandemic response network has seen a gutting of 7080 via budget manipulation and unfulfilled roles after termination or self termination|0 Man youre so cool I bet you never eat any fast food because youre just so cool|1 Still no update almost an hour later|0 Its important to note that this will be almost infinitely more impactful so its also understandable that public statements might need to more oversight Also consider that narrative control has always existed in government bureaucracies If you think the Obama admin didnt also filter messaging youre fooling yourself|0 People dying in China are diagnosed with lung inflammation and then crematedTechnically correct But makes the statistics worthless|0 I still give Dr Fauci the benefit of doubt just not as much as I used to Unfortunately his statement In my opinion on immunity was a little cut off at the knees and misleadinghe knows that there are studies i have read them that indicate that you may develop immunity you may not and if you do it may lasts 6 to 8 months or very briefly or be so weak that it is ineffective In fact I learned that it is the way of most virus we catch and the reason we have vaccines to take on a seasonal basis|0 West Well Im fucked lets find somebody to blame instead of fixing the problem|0 Printers exist This doesnt look like it took that long to make The dates completely wrong too|0 You sound so stupid man please stop|0 The argument against the decentralized Olympics is that its essentially not an Olympics anymore but just individual World Championships|1 Were here to save your lives BLAM BLAM BLAM|0 Theres no guarantee that he will have it New Ro isnt small and its stratified so if hes in the less nice part he wont be directly affected by the exclusionary zone like my barber and exs parents are That being said shes still an idiot|1 Earlier today Sunday I was shopping at a large supermarket The shelves were partially empty but there was plenty of merchandise It was just older people who were working most in the mid seventies there were no young people on site or shopping One elderly man said that had been stocking shelves since 300 am so that there would be merchandise on the shelves to purchase I found the whole scene to be surreal|0 Ive said the same things people just respond with its an overreaction the toll to economy will be worse its a way for governments to keep population in fearthey are testing the waters as to how far they can control people|0 Exactly its an immuno suppressant prevents cytokine storms and eases lung infection Was downvoted for pointing these numbers out in the other subreddit lol|1 Why would you fly back to Wuhan with early symptoms knowing the healthcare system there is completely overwhelmed Wouldnt you get better care in Japan|1 How dare you suggest something that makes sense rather than parroting the official reddit approved narrative of China bad and everything is sinister|0 imagine if Obama was in charge it would be down 62 thank god Trump saved us and the constitution i expect his super terrific healthcare plan is about to be rolled out it was gonna be greater than ever i think that is why he has been keeping it a secret all these years|1 bUt ThErE wAs No WaY fOr AnYoNe To KnOw It WoUlD gEt ThIs BaD|0 Yes Agreed My parents are in their late 70s and a friend who is going through chemo right now If I accidentally introduced it to them their death is on my hands|1 Shit this should be the entire United states|0 Uhh thats not what that says Like at all ctrlf for reprodu and it did not come up with anything like that|1 Careful what you wish for Im from Texas living in South Carolina We took a trip to Arizona over Christmas to visit family and drive the whole way West Texas New Mexico and parts of Arizona are full of NOTHING Were talking hours between signs of civilization|1 wow super post this should be in the side bar as read first post or as a sticky|1 Honestly the America has usually been condemning China for their Communist policies hiding of virus numbers etc but are now pulling this shit off I dont see much difference in terms of coverups by both governments China has already given the world a 3month headsup notice that the virus is so contagious and everyone seems so unprepared for it well except for some Asian countries|0 I dont get the US system EVERYONE eventually gets sick and dies from SOMETHING so why not build a system that helps instead of hindersI am very happy we have the system we do People sometime berate the wait times or bureaucracy but its there when we need it and so far 100 of the people I have met in healthcare go way beyond the call to help Let me tell you it infuriates a lot of Canadians when we hear US citizens are getting the short end of the stick healthcarewise I hope the government figures something out to test and treat all those in need|1 I would like my parents to live|1 Im lucky that my boomer mother is possibly more paranoid about this than I a millennial am|1 Chinas numbers compared to this make no sense not even half the cases with half the deaths 75 CFR by the way Just the flu bro The CFR has stayed consistent for the last week around 57 Its good enough for me to say thats probably our actual CFR|0 Sure but theres a difference between remaining calm but serious and remaining calm bc I think its a nothingburgerThis guy is literally the professor of infectious diseases and was like nah its cool no worries everyone come well have a big party|1 Asymptomaticunreported infectors are about 55 or so as contagious as the symptomaticsDoes anybody know how long an asymptomatic person remains contagious for forever for a year for a month |0 Please stop responding to me youre so anti Tory there is literally no point us trying to talk reasonably about this anymore|0 So ive read that the virus can stay on surfaces for a few daysthese things coming from china i guess it would be good to test them and see if they are not contaminated|1 What does your best case scenario look like|1 Please remove the s it hurts my soul|0 If Bernie Sanders is elected due to coronavirus it would be one of the handful of good things to come out of this Hell scenario|0 Confirmation Corona Virus was weaponized and where it came from The smoking gun httpsyoutubeFTPjbu4FAE|0 You should not as the title is false This is just a minority party proposing something not something the government is likely to implement|1 Jesus titty fucking Christ this guy might be right as tragic as that would beIt legit made me go look at her website since Ive been ignoring her this whole time What even is this timeline|0 She should sit at home and have absolutely no contact with any human being if she does show hard symptoms of the corona virus then she should go but if she doesnt have the virus and goes to the hospital she will be infected with it there|0 In fact in the eyes of the Chinese people government and CCP are one We have more than 7 million civil servants Are they the Chinese people Certainly We have more than 90 million CCP members Are they the Chinese people Certainly When the government makes the wrong decision we will supervise it and criticize it but the government is not the opposite of us|0 You dont count it like that|0 Not that kind of eating out my friend|1 Why have no under 10 year olds died then|0 Not in this subreddit Nice try though Youre still wrong|0 CDC Cant Do Crap|1 That may be but you look like a total prick when you say all Chinese eat dogs and bats Every country eats weird shit Balut pickled pigs feet snake crocodile kangaroo I could go on and on|0 No it needs investigation by experts|0 and genocide dont forget the genocide|1 Dead grandparents is what its going to take unfortunately I think thats part of the reason I got so concerned so fast because I drive my grandmother to her chemo appointments every week If you dont know chemo itself absolutely ravages your immune system so people like her are at an even higher risk than normal seniors I couldnt live with myself if I carried the virus and then somehow gave it to her People wont grasp it until something tangible to them happens Until then people will just scoff at it and say stupid shit like whatever dude Im under 80 Im fine|0 Im an RN and shes spot on about the healthcare implications I work in an ED that is already holding patients because of lack of beds in the hospital before this pandemic began We are not prepared for a surge like this|0 Yeah its basically consuming my waking hours too Stay the course friend|1 This would help a lot|1 Wtf|0 More to avoid storage fees prosecution is still likely|0 I hate to be that person but that reference is com not edu or gov Thats why I feel a lot of false information is going about because no one is fact checking anything Or seeing who wrote these articles with a simple click A lot of people are just digesting false information and spreading mass hysteria|0 Be healthy buddy|1 These things will get fast tracked if they show promise especially if this spins hard At some point theyre going to be throwing things against the wall to see what sticks Im pretty sure China is already doing that Hopefully we dont get a thalidomide situation as a result Will ultimately depend on how the threat evolves as to whether those kinds of risks are taken|1 It is And kudos to them for having such caring hearts But I think it balances out the goodbad when you think of why it was necessary|1 The finest liquor around its free and it keeps you from getting sick Bout to be chugging this shit|0 Great article|1 Their subs bread and desserts are really kick ass too|0 They have to cancel this|0 itS jUsT ThE FLu|0 That means you are weak and Taco Bell is the perfect way to weed out the week in our society|1 Oh pshaw i think the techs are pretty brave they go into strange spaces|1 A gun|0 Why was it unusually lethal for younger people Surely they have stronger immune systems so would fight it off more easily|1 Are these the mild symptoms theyve been talking about or more serious That sounds like exactly what I dont want to go through I grew up in Maryville by the way|1 Ah thanks |1 My respect to China They dont have to help especially after all the blame criticism and condemnation but they did Such unselfish act is an example that will put many countries to shame Way to go|0 Youre right sorry theyre running out because china isnt exporting them|0 Fair point but Im pretty past giving Newt Gingrich the benefit of the doubt|1 Negative GDP As in your GDP would be less than 0|0 Not really The decision was made on account that China annouced there is widespread human to human transmission beyond Hubei Province Therefore the Singaporean Government in a proportional respond extended the restriction|0 Im not a prepper always think about having something ready and just dont spend the money to do it It just upsets me to see idiots making fun of people that do that sort of thingits smartwhen I was a kid in Boy Scouts theyd say be prepared but that was a time before a bunch of morons who live in cities that think milk comes from a supermarket and not cows started running things|0 I actually think some of you guys are getting off on this Disaster porn|0 A doctor tried to give me prednisone once for a cold I backed away slowly Is there any information on the use of inhalers or bronchodilators available with COVID19 Just wondering since it tends to help when I get bronchitis but I dont know if thats just because the bronchitis sets off illness related asthma I developed after I got whooping cough a few years ago|0 March is the very end of flu season|0 Fuck My Walgreens has a few left I bought a couple more cans but I might go back Just got word of mouth confirmation its in my town|0 This is appalling This decision will be a death sentence for the elderly Every human life has value|0 Well since I used to work in the food service industry as a cook in the Navy You cooks will be told to come in regardless if diners eat at your establishment or not I understand your plight and Im sure folks here do too But our food service industry shows zero mercy|1 fortunately we dont have near the population density italy has New york New york is screwed|0 Way too late this should have been said the moment they were reporting a handful of cases and also trying to build emergency hospitals or when it came out they targeted people warning about the virus in DecemberSaying it now okay and|0 If you can make it on Monday great but if you cannot make it do not worry too much Healthcare in Spain is universal and free The system is going to be under a lot of pressure during some months but if you guys have any problem in the hospital they wont hesitate to help you even you are not registered You will sort it out later on Just follow the new rules and stay safe at home Lets hope everything will return to normal in a few weeks|1 If you are offered the flu jab youre in that group|0 Its sorta sad people cant look at data and determine for themselves|0 PORTLAND OR KPTV A Portland distillery is now making hand sanitizer and giving it out to customersShine Distillery and Grill already has the equipment and the alcohol for it They say it just makes sense for them to help keep people healthy right nowBasically when they distill the alcohol the first part that comes out isnt meant to drink so they make a cleaner out of it I had a lady sitting at the bar the other night and she asked if she could have some and I wasnt sure so over the weekend we did our research and checked with the controlling authorities and come to find as long as were not making a medical claim or selling it were allowed to give it away owner Jon Poteet saidNow with 80 percent alcohol above the Centers for Disease Control and Preventions recommendation of at least 60 percent xanthan gum to thicken the mix and a little bit of water theyre making hand sanitizer for customersIts pretty cool I think its great customer Ann OConnor saidAnd hand sanitizer is hard to find right nowSeveral grocery stores in the north Portland area are still sold out There are empty shelves and ration signs no Purell and in some cases no rubbing alcohol left eitherTheres a range of prices online for these products but Poteet has no problem giving his for freeUltimately Im part of the community I want my friends and neighbors to be happy and healthy he said All my neighbors getting sick and going down doesnt do me any good I want to be in a healthy community and it feels good to be able to give backThey also know hand sanitizer is only second best to hand washing so they have a sign in the bathroom with 20second chorus lyrics as a reminder thats how long you should washA reminder from OHA they say 97 percent of consumers dont wash their hands correctlyWeve heard from officials over and over again that good hand hygiene is one of the best ways to prevent the spread of COVID19|1 They definitely wont test you unless youve been in direct contact with someone whos tested positive for the virus Just do your best to practice social distancing and selfisolation until you know more Know that theres not a ton you can do though and that 4070 of the population will end up getting it eventuallybut thank you for being sensible Stay healthy and good luck|1 Omg thats heartbreaking how absolutely awful|0 Honestly even if some of the information here is being pushed by Russian operatives Id have to agree about disliking the autocratic Chinese government for all the bullshit democracy narratives they like to pushFuck the plutocratic Russian government too though|1 Its like he hasnt done his homework and hes up in front of the class Hes put the entire country in jeopardy about time your treason laws get updated|0 exactly the petrodollar is going to have big problems going forwardRemember how every other recession cause the US to lose reserve currency statusYea me neither|0 That is super cute and surprisingly upbeat Thank you very much 3PS is there a way I can download it to listen to the song offline Thanks|1 Dollar General was never meant to be a grocery store Its honestly dumb that they have a canned goods section at all|0 This is the entire problemthe person who should be taking this more serious than any other person in history and is his responsibility is talking about this as fake news and pointing out flu bro stats It seems I can only protect myself and my family so I have taken measures to do that and that will also help the community as a whole|0 I absolutely agree with this I keep commenting that I dont understand these comments about teenagers running all over if there is no school by telling people to parent When I tell my kids to stay home they stay home and people are telling me this has nothing to do with parenting What What does it have to do with if not minding your own children for awhile|1 Disagree If youre overreacting than youre doing the right thing as Fauci says Rather be scared into keeping my kids inside and have nothing happen than risk anything else|0 You couldnt have explained this any better for people with anxiety Ive been doing the same exact thing for a week now|1 NE Colorado people have started panicking I tried to get some teething meds for my baby and another mom and I had to grab some of the last few bottles The Walmart was busier than Superbowl Sunday or Christmas Eve A few people wearing masks Low or out of tp paper products cleaning supplies frozen food produce meat flour diapers etc|0 Some people might turn to violence to get supplies for their families or to settle disputes If law enforcement is quarantined or stops responding will calm heads prevail Road rage and Black Friday are problems already I can not see things getting better when travel restrictions and shortages begin When medication is limited family members separated cabin fever sets in people are going to be touchy If the pharmacies run out people might have to suddenly withdraw from their antidepressants When things are settled with bullets that wont help hospital conditions I hope I am mistaken It just seems like a lot can go wrong|0 I can tell youre a teenyoung adult because you just called an alternate protocol hate because it didnt benefit you|0 So youre saying we can send a city home and we dont have to worry about food distribution infrastructure and utilities medical services etc I was coming from a wider perspective that the medical providers should be getting more support to do more testing It isnt just a matter of support When you have an endemic infection you dont want to keep testing anyone and everyone that comes to a clinic or hospital asking for a test Encouraging continued testing at a facility that will already be dealing with sick patients risks exposing people who arent sick but who came in to be tested anyway When you know its already there plan and act accordingly Why is panic buying after cases in your area identified Its not just because it can outstrip supply chains but you have people who arent sick going to a central public location and risking exposure The same applies for hospitals and clinics when it comes to testing but to a greater degree as they will likely have cases on hand Why arent we utilizing those weve allegedly trained for CERT Now is the time before the beds are full to be training those people to do simpler things that dont have to be handled by medical professionalsAsk the government CERT or the availability of CERT volunteers plays no role in terms of how hospitals can or should respond here nor does activation of CERT volunteers mean that they should be used just to continue testing Evergreen shouldnt just keep testing with the hopes that some workload will be taken off because they have a few more volunteers theres more at play than just that before the beds are full to be training those peopleAlso right now that a disease is endemic in the area lets get a bunch of people together to train them I hope Ive emphasized enough that my focus isnt on the medical community hereSo far it seems to be because youve complained that Evergreen not continuing testing is bad just because it wont raise awareness logistics practicality and risk doesnt matter If gov isnt quarantining or expanding testing resourcesMedical personnel arent a resource that can just be increased overnight quarantining or expanding testing resources to help stem inward and outward bound cases from exposing the community and into hospitals inpatient or outpatientIm still waiting for you to explain how testing isnt a reaction to an endemic disease since it doesnt help at all with a negative test Also where do you expect this testing to take place Hospitals and medical centers Great you just increased the number of sick people showing up exposing medical staff to even more cases and increasing the chances of them getting sick And are you telling me it also wont increase the chance of new infection for people not sick but who go in for testing There are some very basic things you have yet to address here the best thing to do is just focus on the walking woundedSo youre saying their approach is wrong because thats not what theyre doing People showing up for testing or with minor symptoms or your walking wounded are the ones not being prioritized for testing theyre focusing on inpatientspeople with severe enough medical conditions that they are being admitted Ill reemphasize that I get that you are absolutely convinced that because its endemic to the area there is little benefit to knowing who is contagious outside of people who are inpatient I disagreeDisagree all you want but you have done nothing to address the substance of what I have said and the numbers provided by Evergreen as justification for their actions Youre wanting to focus on testing when estimates are that 15 of sick people end up needing to seek medical care and 5 of sick people are critical care patients I dont need to have my position painted as wanting them only to run around testing everything and make a lot of noiseYou literally said Right now unless government and the public see numbers going upward they are going to claim it is under control even as the death count rises and hospitals fillhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsferms0cdccandeclareendemicinahardhitareaandfjsge4zYou say you dont want them to run around testing everything and make a lot of noise right after you say you do want them testing to make the numbers go up in order to get attention The government doctors and the general public want to handle this the same way theyve handled other things Were declaring emergencies but doing nothing extraordinarySo prioritizing testing isnt doing anything So preparing for an influx of patients and conserving resources isnt doing anything You want them to take action but the moment its not an action you like its suddenly handling this the same way theyve handled other things You want the numbers used to generate flashy headlines but you dont want to deal with the rationing of healthcare resources and triaging of patients in ways that prioritize severe cases over mild ones in terms of care and testing We know there are contagious people running around but doing nothing to separate themRight and its the hospitals responsibility to fix that We arent preparing additional personnel to do anything usefulMedical personnel take years to train youre not going to create a bunch overnight and your idea of corralling a bunch of CERT volunteers together in an area with an endemic infection shows how much awareness you have about the harsh reality of this outbreak Like I said you want the headlines the high numbers the visuals for a pandemic but youre not wanting to see any of serious and hard decisions that will result from it you say you do but when they actually happen as in this case you throw a fit You also contradict yourself in terms of wanting isolation and quarantine but also want everyone to be free to run off to healthcare providers to be tested Some of this falls on the medical community to guide the government but I trust that they are going to run the same line youre running aboveSince when Again youre wanting them to abandon planning for high case numbers and taking measures to limit the exhaustion of resources and personnel now so that they have the ability to respond as things get worse all so that they can raise awareness and guide the government Is that what hospitals and medical staff are for To guide the government If you go to the hospital do you want a doctor making plans and decisions that are best for you their patient or do you want them making their plans and decisions based on what best guides the government|0 Good time to tell mom it wasnt just a phase laddies|1 I am curious then why no doctors spoke out Places like Germany etc are only diagnosing people who basically die in 24 hours That means theyve been infected for 2 weeks yet not a peep from any doctors No factors came out to sayLook the guy Im treating doesnt just have the flu he needs to be testedEither Chinese doctors are much more vocal or EU is much better at censorship|0 So it is a social responsibility for healthy people to always wear a mask and not further spraying itYes everyone pretty much agrees with this to prevent asymtomatic spread but allocation of resources wise its much better to give it to sick people and healthcare workersMost people dont know how to use and fit N95 masks correctly drastically decreasing the effectiveness at preventing healthy people from getting sick|1 Its rough but other states and countries have done it LA is opening family resource centers There are ways to do thisThese centers will provide childcare educational activities and other services Theyll also provide packaged meals To keep these centers safer against the virus all visitors will have their temperature taken upon arrival and all students will be directed to wash their hands said LA schools Supt Austin Beutner httpswwwlatimescomcaliforniastory20200313coronavirusschoolsareclosingwhatcankidsandparentsdo|1 Awesome thanks very much|1 Kinda a dumb take Panic doesnt keep resources flowing Theres a balance to be had I think|0 I agree Heatherwood Jr High School is right next door|1 Games have rules that everyone plays by|1 The way I see it is this thing is not gonna be preventable and everyone knows it The sooner we get a vaccine going the minimal the damages We need vaccines ASAP|0 But we will never really know the prevalence of the potential concurrence it seems Unless other countries who seem to have a broader testing criteria figure it out for us Maybe this is very rare idk It just seems like its something we should know though|1 and a culture of not giving a fuck in general Same thing here in North America When a case was detected in the NY transit system they had old grannys cleaning it with barely any PPE Even in Iran they take more precautions|1 I tried to stick to over the counter home remedies that everyone should have access to Oxygen therapy has its own risks and should be used under the direction of a physician My hope is that by tracking your vitals you will be able to recognize a change in status For example you run 99 and its been 3 days and now you are at 92 and unable to raise your oxygen saturation with interventions You call your doctor and report your findings and they will give you further instructions The goal is not to replace hospital care at home but to stay home with mild symptoms and be able to recognize if they become more severe|0 Ignorant as hell I cant stand it|0 Masks are still going to decrease the chance of you being infected in general as long as you do not lax up on more important measures like cleaning your hand false sense of security do not touch your face more frequently or at all because of wearing it They will be especially more effective for closer to absolute prevention if you fit them properly thoroughly denature them in between uses or dispose of themGiven the information the CDC provides above if true wearing a mask is not a necessity for ample precautionYoure more likely to be in the group of the average person where wearing a mask means youre more likely to infect yourself than not regardless of how diligent you think you are|1 Upvotes all round If you want a crylol read the fifth risk by the guy that wrote the big short book|0 I work in an IL SNF in the far suburbs It sounds like a lot of patients are going to be diverted from hospitals to SNFswith the lack of testing this is terrifying Arent we going to just spread this is the vulnerable populations that are already in these facilities|0 South Korea just announced they have tested 90000 people I am so frustrated that we have not had more testing|0 It was in London not Australia but yes they were recently together at an eventCanadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeaus wife Sophie Gregoire Trudeau has also tested positive for coronavirus Elba had recent contact with Gregoire Trudeau on March 4 at WE Day 2020 at The SSE Arena Wembley in London where the pair posed for pictures togetherhttpswwwhollywoodreportercomnewsidriselbatestspositivecoronavirus1284878|1 Well where you live and who you live with is a choice you made You are probably not an exception to your community although you think you are Kick him out or if its his house then kick yourself out We r all going to die one day stop thinking this is worse than cancer or a stroke or Alzheimers|0 Im glad people in America dont have these underlying illnesses s|0 People sht on Italy for being the European country with more cases but the truth is that we are testing the heck out of everything More testsmore casesAs soon as the other EU countries get on the testing boat I dont think the number situation will be very different|1 I was just reading that steroid use is counterindicated in treatment of COVID19 as well as SARs and MERS Arent inhalers generally steroids|1 thank you yeah my comments got a couple likes which was heartening appreciate it |1 I want to be quarantined right now|1 Brilliant|1 So 6 weeks 2 days whatever time he was infected before being diagnosed|0 We know for sure this can be transmitted from an asymptomatic carrierhttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468|1 Youre right this is the second highest testing day with 3826 tests The highest so far was on the 14th March with 4975 My table is further down in this thread if youd like to see the numbers|1 Thank fucking god|1 Ive seen a number of other accounts of deaths simply being attributed to viral pneumonia just because they are so overwhelmed and cannot spare the time to send in samples for sequencing to confirm and I sort of agree in a state of chaos whats the point or prioritizing sequencing of samples if the patient already diedWe have to assume all the counts are wrong at this point|0 Well thats a problem|0 He said it would go away in April because winter would be leaving and things would warm up Except it is spreading in the southern hemisphere currently as well|1 You are taking percentages when it should be numbers Of course 3000 is gonna be a lower percentage out of 24000 than it would be out of 20000|0 Why were these workers not protected Ig unions arent a thing in China under authoritarianism oof|0 If this paper is flawed then no one can trust the numbers released by the CPP anymore This team is like the Avengers team of Chinese epidemiologists and physicians|1 Marathonnot great and I would like to know where tf Garcetti is in the middle of all this but LA is far from the bottom of citiescounties dealing with this virus People are underestimating how much of this undertesting is related to lack of available tests nationwide and labs prepared to handle their processing Washington has a head start because they were the first to see an outbreak and even they were initially hampered in their response Ive lived in LA for a while now but grew up in the South There are far worse places to be when this shit hits the fan LA has a medical community and public health network that will step up to deal with this in a far more competent way than most other places|0 There is no normal pneumonia It can be bacterial viral fungal in nature Influenza and rsv pneumonia are fairly common viral pneumonias Even with antibiotics bacterial pneumonias pose a greater cardiac risk for patients over viral so one isnt necessarily better to have over the other|0 I think the nuance is lost on most people Hell its lost on most governments Many organizations and probably countries have contingency plans that get activated if WHO declares a pandemic A key part of human nature is that we dont want to look stupid Many people wont trigger plans until its too late unless they have something concrete to point to WHO declared a pandemic and thats written in the plan as a triggering criteria as a reason they made a big decision|0 H1N1 is swine flu correct I had it when I was like 6ish I have no symptoms that last despite nearly being hospitalized because of it|0 Yepall shipments will be stopped|0 This is humanity while some Americans are being racist towards chinese people in America see now what this guy did|0 There are in just as much relative riskIf you look at the CFR of covid19 vs standard influenza at various age ranges and compare the relative risk is just about constant over then entire age range In short in all age ranges you are about 20 times more likely to die if you are infected with corvid19 than if you were infected with standard flu The only difference between young and old is the starting baselineSourcehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfeid8jfluvscovid19deathratebyagepercdc|0 Okso its some dude who says he was in china quarantined and tested all turns out negative But he keeps coughing into his hand then takes a sip of water from a bottle and gives it back to his daughterI smell a crisis actorperhaps too quell fears and pump up the stock market|0 South Koreas first case was on January the 20th and there are thousands of infected patients there hospitals overrun neumerous deaths There is no way this was spreading since Jan 16th in Seattle|0 Granted VERIFIED Twitter accounts include people who take pictures of their butts for money and do not include almost any research at any university in the world|1 Crisis management is one part of it its multifaceted|0 Assume if youve been leaving your house regularly during the past month you probably have been exposed regardless of that one coworker Its a cesspool here in Chicago|0 This is the reason its spread so badly|0 Which will work as well as the maginot line without continual adaptation to the actual threat Any kind of canned antiSARS plan or whatever they have on hand can at best be a basis for making a new plan|1 Prediction that I hope Im wrong about This will be kept under wraps in the US at least through Super Bowl Sunday Partially due to that but mostly due to long incubation and denial of testing if no direct link to Wuhan After Sunday and into the next couple of weeks we will see a jump in cases and the CDC trying to play catch up There is nothing that makes the US or any other country different then China unless it truly is a bioweapon which it likely isnt That being said reports show us a long incubation period coldflu like systems that are hard to distinguish from normal coldflu that then progress into more serious Pneumonia asymptotic transmission and a high R0 For reference there were barely 100 cases in Hubei last week All of that mixed with apathy from the CDC is a recipe for a bad situation And the only people who seem to not see that is the CDC and a few people on here who like to go around and downvote anyone who says this has a chance of spreading in the US|1 Wow|1 That has never stopped trump before|1 Great advice but skip the milk jugs for water storage They arent suitable for that|1 I live in New Orleans and can confirm that shit will get really bad this weekend Its been kind of snowballing since Wednesday honestly Today they just announced all schools are closed for a month Lots of peopl are working from home me and my wife included and Ive noticed more people taking it seriously Walmart and other stores are getting pretty crowded now too but like she said itll be worse this weekend My wife and I made one final haul and spent over 300 bucks Thats not including the 23 months worth of provisions Ive been buying to stock up for almost a month nowAnd like many have said its been here for a long while even before Mardi Gras Experts are speculating people who came here from out of town for Mardi Gras actually caught the virus while they were here There were a lot of people walking around with the flu a couple of months ago Even my wife and I got hit hard with some mystery virus a few weeks ago Took both of us out for over a week but when my kids 4 and 6 got it they only had a mild cough and runny nose My wife and I joked about how their childrens vitamins must be more effective than our adult onesLots of waiters and waitresses have also anonymously admitted to being sick recently and many have said they plan on working and serving people regardless of how well they feelIts going to be really bad here in a week or two I bet|0 Yep this is what I did|1 OMG hes insane|0 I get that but what can you do Stay home and hide when theres no transmission going on around you|0 Please dm sub and video|1 Just like climate change it is not more expensive overall just upfrontNot taking action early is in no way rational it is simply short sighted|1 If youre about to tell me to look on the bright side Im about to hit you in the head with a peanut butter sandwich|1 Hopefully this bug takes out the bad people that brought us here|0 Its not necessarily spreading there or any other hot middle eastern climates because so far early on its just cases that have been imported from Iran I do believe it could easily spread in their air conditioned airports though|1 Having the ability to do something and doing it are two very different things Lets hope their charity continues|1 Nobody wants to hear that on this thread Obviously professionals from all around the world are investigating this situation and have looked at the data Id imagine its very similar to the flu in regards to the people it kills and this is why they dont want to call it a pandemic What people dont want to see are the numbers that recover or or have mild symptoms People only look at infected and deaths and assume its going to kill the entire population|0 I completely agree Hes a predatory fraud who hides behind phony religion Hes been kicked out of churches I was just pointing it out in case other people werent aware|0 Bikings banned right now under quarantine so it wouldnt have mattered either way|0 What theyre talking about is antibody dependent enhancementhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAntibodydependentenhancementIf like Dengue fever COVID19 has multiple serotypes its possible that getting infected a second time could be worse In simple terms lets say your body gets into a fight with some kid After a while your body realizes that this kid always leads by kicking with his left foot You win the battle Oh the kid is back for another round except its not him its his lookalike twin brother You put everything into bracing for the kick from the left foot and he outright punches you in the faceBear in mind that there is no evidence that there are multiple serotypes of COVID19 But then again theres no evidence that there isnt either All Im saying is that this is possibleThis would be the ultimate in bad news if its true But it also helps to explain the difference in mortality in Hubei vs the rest of China theyve had the time to reinfect whereas the rest of China is still on round 1 and possibly why this darn virus is so hard to detectShoutout to uLuckyStress for pointing this out to me Shes a badass|0 Its the right kind of taking it seriously rather than the Chinese style welding people in their apartments and stuff|0 At least now I know that I wont get fired if were quarantined Thanks for letting us know OP|1 I guess because Reddit is westernand mainland people need vpn to access plus we really tend to stay in our Chinese social media platform you know speak our own language understanding meme and punch lines so you dont see too much Chinese people posting here We really are not that different CCP praisers are very similar to Trump supporters|1 So I live in Japan Every day someone new gets discovered to be infected whos work forces them to interact with the public The first cases that came in were 2 long distance bus drivers and a tour guide Then a guy working for Japan Rail Three govt employees told not to tell anyone they were sick and who took the train to work every day until they couldnt A woman who prepared food for elementary school lunches Now a long distance truck driver Medical professionals working at hospitals and clinicsSo yeah its not possible to contain this anymore|0 Yeah we have a whole package deal with meal plan and seasonal rates everything all together This was all booked the first week or two or January Ill talk to my travel agent tomorrow and see whats up Throwing away two years of savings is not something that I wanted to have to deal with|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 A good one is Journey It matches you with one or multiple other anonymous people throughout the game|1 And the good thing here is it targets part of the human cell so virus mutation cannot overcome it|1 The data is difficult to extrapolate because we know our data are underreportedI know its all we have I just wish we had done better|1 Nothing to mock This year those acts were forbidden It was not allowed|0 Yeah probably didnt need to be so dramatic but he does have a rocky relationship with the media because of the leading questions they ask sometimes|1 Until we figure out how to get more masks manufactured the US is going to have a very hard time recoveringIs there a government effort to increase capacity We should put resources into this company and allow them to expand|1 please please please do not re use your masks they are designed as single use|1 Yeah Ive been sick all week with an unrelated infection I was told not 100 confirmed yet that if I wanted to stay home I would have to use vacationPTO Ive already used up all but a day and a half of that since my year turned over they give you your yearly allowances based on your start date its been over 8 months for me So my options are theoretically to be responsible and stay home and not get paid or go in while sick so I dont lose my home while exposing coworkers to my illness|0 Yes there should at least be the option of those who are able to have childcare etc to not be at school That would at least reduce class sizes and consequently spreading|1 Yeah what about everyone else|1 My brotherinlaw yeah We never even got to meet him He and my SIL my husbands sister got engaged when they declared him cancer free in November and then he relapsed and passed away a few weeks ago|1 Ah yeah I havent gone looking much further I figured everyone I know is ignoring it or Facebook decided I wouldnt want to see what theyre saying ha|1 They will be the ones who really suffer the worst consequences|0 It was very imaginable Competence has not even been considered a factor in hiring decisions throughout the federal government Unquestioning loyalty is the only qualification|1 Holy shit|0 Well here in China it is mandatory or a fine might be imposed|1 I can hear Stefon now If you are some sick folks just looking for sicker beats Quarantine Fest 2020 has everything|0 Gloves arent even hard to find yet|1 Could you link it Ive found a few threads but I feel like Im missing certain obvious things and would like more prep input Thanks|1 Hopefully the pressure of the western media will ensure there release|1 Thats what I keep thinking my company has a plant in Tianjian so I noticed that on Saturday or Sunday in the news that it was locked down as of SaturdaySunday theyd only had one death so These things are the lines I keep trying to read through Yesterday of course with the big jump in cases things became a little clearer|0 A related question I live in an apt in Europe where the standing shower doesnt have a water trap just a sort of rubber sleeve that permits oneway flow of water When I take it out to clean it I can smell sewer gas so I assume its all connected to the same wastewater drain Its not a perfect seal so I was thinking the best thing to do if apartment aerosol spread is found would be to seal it in plastic wrap and then puncture it only for showers and reseal it after Not ideal but the air return vent pulls air from any leaky seal in the apartment so its difficult to prevent aerosolized infiltration |0 Honestly no disrespect but I really think this line of thinking is more dangerous than coronavirus in the long term How harsh should the measures be How harsh would you suggest|0 Page 3 Journal of Forensic Medicine Vol 36 No 1 February 2020 The inflammatory lesions greywhite lesions are weighted to the left lung and the macroscopic view of the lungs is patchy Graywhite lesions and dark red bleeding are visible Inherent sponge feel A large number of sticky secretions overflowed from the alveolar section and fibrous strands were seen on the section Review the CT scan on the 20th day after admission and see multiple patchy ground glass shadows on both lungs Air bronchograms can be seen The left side is the most important Fibrous cord shadows can be seen on both lower lungs Necropsy The visual findings are consistent with the distribution of imaging changes and the lesions progress further Considering that the groundglass opacities seen in imaging correspond to the graywhite alveolar lesions seen with the naked eye it suggests that COVID19 mainly causes inflammatory reactions characterized by deep airway and alveolar damage Previously local pathological changes in tissues obtained from COVID19 dead body sampling showed that the pathological characteristics of COVID19 were very similar to those caused by SARS and Middle East respiratory syndrome MERS coronavirus 4 However from the general observation of the systemic anatomy in this case pulmonary fibrosis and consolidation were not as severe as those caused by SARS and the exudative response was more obvious than SARS It may be related to the short duration of the patient from diagnosis to death only 15 days More systematic autopsy data and histopathological verification are needed The pleural effusion of the deceased was not much light yellow clear liquid and no large amount of pleural effusion was seen suggesting that pleural lesions were not mainly serous inflammation Severe adhesion of the right lung to the pleura suggests that this case may be complicated by infectious pleurisy Anatomy showed a moderate amount of light yellow clear liquid in the pericardial cavity mild epicardial edema and myocardial section was grayred fishshaped The clinical data of the patient showed a history of coronary heart disease angina pectoris and whether the myocardium and epicardium were associated with viral infection The damage performance needs further study In this case the digestive system damage is not obvious to the naked eye It is worth mentioning that the small intestine is dilated and narrowed similar to a bead It is a case or a general manifestation that requires more autopsy There were no obvious abnormalities in the spleen to the naked eye Histopathological studies were needed to determine the presence of lesions The kidney has a granular condensed kidney appearance which is considered to be related to the underlying disease With regard to the nervous system gross edema and mild atrophy of the cerebral cortex were observed with the naked eye Based on clinical data the patient was older had multiple cerebral infarctions and sequelae of cerebrovascular disease and had no infectionspecific manifestations with the naked eye Did the virus invade the central nerve The system is to be verified by histopathology Finally I summarize some recent experiences of COVID19 autopsy work for the reference of forensic workers 1 It is better to have a negative pressure environment at the anatomical site It must have separate killing conditions and the anatomical personnel must achieve three levels of biological safety protection 2 Prepare materials before entering the site and prepare more gauze or towels The equipment is dedicated and Must be strictly killed after use 3 Dry dissection is used to ensure that no blood or tissue residues pollute the efflux or left on the site and adequate antiseptics must be prepared on the site 4 Covers can be used to strengthen the protection during craniotomy Avoid splashing 5 Minimize onsite organ separation and incision The extracted organs are placed in a biological sample bag sealed with a sufficient amount of fixative and placed in another biological sample bag after elimination Killing retransmitting after repeated multilayer killing 6 extending the fixed time killing pathogens with fixed solution and then conducting organ inspection and material collection References 1 The Office of Health Emergency Response The latest situation of the new coronavirus pneumonia epidemic as of 2400 on February 24 R OL 20200225 20200225 Http www nhcgovcn xcs yqtb 202002 67e6c59a84bd4f07b6c a4a4c5ffabb79shtml Health Emergency Office Novel coronavirus pneumonia epidemic situation up to 2400 on February 24 R OL 20200225 2020 0225 Http wwwnhcwwwnhc Govcnxcsyqtb20200267e6c59a84bd4f07b6ca4a4c5ffahttpsGovcnxcsyqtb20200267e6c59a84bd4f07b6ca4a4c5ffa bb79shtml 2 HUANG C WANG Y LI X et al Clinical features of patients infected with 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan China J Lancet 2020 395 10223 497506 Doi 101016 S01406736 20 301835 3 CHEN N ZHOU M DONG X et al Epidemiological and clinical characteristics of 99 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan China A descriptive study J Lancet 2020 395 10223 507513 doi 101016 S01406736 20 302117 4 XU Z SHI L WANG Y et al Pathological findings of COVID 19 associated with acute r espiratory distress syndrome J Lancet Respir Med 2020 doi 101016 S22132600 20 30076X Received 20200224 Editor Zou Donghua Hope this helped|0 Since it is detected in feces my guess is it could hide in the appendix which harbors gut bacteria to replenish when needed|0 I do Usually I am wrong If you got few moments please educate me My assumptions were If we test more people our hit rate will come down It hasnt it has gone up to 68 percent|0 This is criminal that Boris and his chums are being allowed to do this Its a global pandemic and hes just throwing us all to the wolvesWith the approach of If you survive you survive|0 Disposables seem to be out of stock everywhere but I see all sorts of halfface respirators and P100 filters available at CT HD and Amazon A bit pricier per unit than disposables but not absurd|1 The cases will over take korea soon Already 5x the deaths terrible|0 Some early cases were quarantined immediately when they landed in airport so its kinda difficult to define the location The location of some cases were announced on the Taiwanese CDC website as a map but has now been taken down However vague locations of some cases are still available in the official announcements Theres a project using Johns Hopkins CSSEs map as a template with more detailed local report in Taiwanhttpsviatormapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbbd3dfeeec9c494daf178457c7b74c3eFrom a quick glance this map is matching the locations in the official announcement Theres a hackmd note of all the details httpshackmdiobilly33212019nCoVhttps3A2F2Fhackmdio2F40billy33212F2019nCoVIts mostly in mandarin but I am sure people would be happy to help you if you reach outEdit wrong url and grammar|1 If you get sick you are going to end up killing a bunch of those old people|0 Maybe thats why some people are just collapsing out in the street If those videos are to be believed of course|0 Not even talking about Corona just saying zhat American civilians couldnt do shit if their Administration decided to establish a dictatorship|1 Does 13k sound like so few to him What a fucking joke|1 The us has over a million doctors If it comes down to it well force them to mobilize like china and korea have|1 Stop posting this disgusting bigoted bullshit China has experience with SARS epidemics and built up lots of expertise Contrary to your racist beliefs they actually know what theyre doing Watch this httpstwittercomMaddowBlogstatus1238279302468288512|0 They were supposed to start doing that 2 week ago and have not started yet whatsoever and said as much in their last press conference Probably due to their bad kits|0 I swear I read the article|0 Wow I know Colorada does have capacity for state testing A negative result sure would put you more at ease I hope it is a mild case and that they feel better soon|1 I read some speculation that this was the logic behind delaying testing in the US for a hard to slow disease If a nation offers testing while its statistically quite unlikely you have it a lot more people will become needlessly infected seeking care And testing the slow community spread before the curve goes vertical will scare more people than it will help stop itThis thing has an pretty scary high R0 remember Kind of unstoppable seeming|0 calculating x200Bby that rate we will all be dead by saturdaywe had a good run|0 Sure they should appreciate it With that said the messaging out there is only if you are exhibiting symptoms This messaging existed well before covid19 and as such I can respect that you were questioned|1 Not all of the severe would die You can survive with O2 levels between 94 and 90 its going to be no fucking fun and you have a far larger chance of deteriorating than if you get medical help but its not a death sentence|1 Im not a student or faculty member of any university but it seems like theyll just move classes online What are you concerned about Are you worried that they arent going to do enough to prevent community spread on campus Tbh they probably wont take any drastic measures until there is a positive case in Guelph or the University Id just urge you to think about this rationally though Universities are at risk to getting the virus first due to international students before community spread starts However keep in mind that there are a lot of people that are going to be mindful of the spread of this disease Ex the 3rd case in Ontario was an international student who returned from China and attends WesternU She suspected she might have it when returning to Canada and selfisolated herself This was about 5 weeks ago she has since recovered and there have been no cases reported in London ON since Also universities in major cities are more likely to be hit harder than smaller towns Vancouver Toronto and Montreal are probably going to be the most affected by Covid19 I live in Toronto and just based on the millions of people that take public transit community spread is inevitable Once Toronto gets really bad all of the cities and towns in southern Ontario will start taking drastic measures giving them a head start|0 No Splash Formula Clorox is a different formula and states in small print not for sanitization or disinfectionI had no idea Glad I found the information because there are billions at risk and securing a small amount for your family is importantToday I bought the regular Clorox for sanitizationHopefully this will be over in a couple of months|0 woo this post is a doozy|1 and id gladly stand up by myself at a safe distance from you|1 Thats true|1 Yes because bars are more scrubby Bars for the win|1 I hope this destroys the charlatan|0 Videos in this threadWatch Playlist 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distancing measures The news is that there seems to have been community spread of the virus happening since participants have been testing positive afterwards|1 Damn Ill keep you all in my thoughts Thats brutal|0 umps been much faster at closing travel to places like China and will do it again if any other coTrumps been closing the flights thats good but he has a mountain of government red tape he has to navigate unfortunately the virus does not care about what humans do in the mean time in terms of middleman bullshit|0 Yeah maybe Better remove this comment before someone believes me and give them fear for no reason|0 I feel like sadly places like my job and your waxing place are thinking more about the money than their employees and even their customers health at this point Its really sad I know my boss wants to stay open as long as possible even if it means putting us at risk |0 The reality is there is going to be a calcination on the outcomes age of you look at it solely as preventing infections at all costs then sure you have a clear path of actionWhat does this mean|1 Yep same in NZ I wonder what happens when China recovers but has taken a severe hit and weve sold strategic assets to them and they look after number 1 as anyone else wouldLocally the word is SilverFern Farms 50 Chinese owned used to be farmer owner coop but the fools voted for this sale in 2016 is building more storage for meat but prices paid to farmers have nosedived And theyll start selling again when prices pick up Where will the profits go I wonderThe joys of foreign ownership|1 Are all schools in whole of Italy closed like its being reported in UK or just the northern ones |1 I dont know if its more common for rash and nausea to occur together that they didnt say Its probably a case by case scenario since everyones body can react slightly differently when fighting off the same virus My guess since I have no medical expertise would be you may have someone who has a rash with a runny nose and another who has no rash but nausea and cough etc Combination of symptoms as I understand it can slightly vary but being aware of all the possible symptoms to look out for can help Some do seem to be more common than others|0 Gotta keep adding those social score bro You cant even buy a plane ticket if you are below certain treshhold|1 FYI spillover events will happen even if people dont eat batswildlife|1 Any chance they moved from Florida Seems like some real Florida Man vibes You cant have a insert natural disaster without a party first|0 Hmmmnot very useful|1 You think this is stupid The people in my country started having Coronaparties|0 I work at a small local news station as a master control operator We are already understaffed to Begin with and if anybody at my station were to come down with the virus it is very likely that our station would have to go off the air because we lack the resources to do anything remotely|0 I have an autistic kid and another kid She already goes mental when one thing doesnt goes as planned I cant imagine the horror for my neighbours on the ship at that point|1 And you thought the panicbuying for toilet paper was bad|0 Its hard to find people that need help that age because theyre not connected like we are I offered to help the school district in my town but they said the government wont allow outside volunteers right now I found that odd but also understood because they dont know if Im sick or not Or if Im going to try and get others sick|0 I came here a few days ago When news from China first started attention here in January I wrote it off as being similar to SARS or Avian Flu or something Sad for eastern nations but unlikely to matter to those of us in the USNow that its undeniable that the entire world is being affected by this I decided to learn more so Ive been hanging out around hereIm not panicked about it just trying to follow guidelines and stay at home as much as possible Lucky for me I dislike grocery stores so I buy in bulk anyway I already had toilet paper plus a bidet and good old fashioned water and soap is always available I agree that some people are taking their fears to the extreme but it doesnt really bother me the way I see it people being overly fearful doesnt negatively affect the rest of us Sure the toilet paper thing is obnoxious but lack of toilet paper and Clorox is more of an inconvenience than an actual danger Plus it seems like the supply chain hasnt been affected yet so the stores will restock regularlyOn the other hand there is a significant group of people who are almost hostile in their denial that this is anything more than a regular flu and I think that line of thinking is way more dangerousthose are the type of people who are doing things like attending my towns St Patrick parade yesterday and potentially spreading the virus in large groups|0 They sell amazing outdoor gear Love their jackets|1 So true yet so ironic considering coronavirus is the scientifically accurate description compared to China flu|0 Ive been doing my best to avoid it It doesnt help that reddit and twitter are all blasting us with it 247 now Id also say try to give yourself a break These are hard times and nobody is immune from mass anxiety and the irrational behaviors that go along with it Its something burned into our brains over millions of years of evolution worry and panic is contagious Just yesterday I went out and bought toilet paper late at night completely out of anxiety after immersing myself in COVID news for the entire day I only bought two packs and there were loads left but I still left the store feeling conflicted and embarrassed I had been laughing off that same behavior earlier that day yet still succumbed to the mass anxiety When it happens just try to recognize it for what it is People are feeling backed into a corner with this and thats what drives these behaviors And a large source of that feeling is the nonstop exposure to media|0 Hes not wrong People are skittish animals and most are not mentally equipped to behave rationally when bombarded 247 by information they cannot fully understand|1 Noshe made a claim which is shes from Wuhan so burden of proof is on herIm not accusing anything other than asking for proof Please dont confuse asking for proof with accusing her of lying|0 Raw materials always cost less than finished goods Also tangible goods are not the only source of income Continued GDP growth despite deficits usually implies a service based economy|1 As a Dallas resident I appreciate this immensely|1 GOP happier than pigs in shit knowing they can push to privatize the CDC once if all the dust settles|0 That sounds like some dope weed|1 Yeah but theyve barely given us any guidelines whatsoever Neither the university boards nor the examiners have given us any clarity on the situation other than passing down vague statements made by our government Many of us in the 6th term and higher do clinical experience as a part of our programs We still dont know whats to come but Im sure many are willing to aid if needed myself included|1 Please explain exponential growth do you understand what youre saying or just spouting something to sound clever If you have nothing of value to add to the conversation then please dont add political nonsense Were supposed to be coming together as a country not finding tenuous reasons to fall apart on|1 Yep Sure AF did|1 May we all remain healthy|1 I actually have to contact my doctor and care team directly when I am ill with a cold or flu even and theyre the ones sending me in to have the same routine done once again Listen to my lungs check my vitals and send me off with an armload of medications Part of that though to be fair is because I am an autoimmune patient with prior organ involvement including lung so I typically get scolded for not wanting to come in If this starts rolling around through the US though you can bet that I will put up a fight on just waltzing in|0 Costco has tons of nitrile gloves I can pick up as many you want if you PM me|1 I guess its just because black supremacy doesnt fit the narrativeMake people uncomfortable with their own world view and they will instinctively hit the downvote button even if it is factually correctIt most definitely is a thing thoughhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiBlacksupremacy|0 Third World is nonaligned So China was never Third World by the original definition but it has been Third World by its own definition because it eventually broke it off with USSR|0 I cant stand the democrats but shes not wrong|1 As of 2009 between 22 and 48 of the toilet paper used in the United States comes from tree farms in the US and South America with the rest mostly coming from old second growth forests and some from virgin forests11|1 The bacterial pneumonia is often an opportunistic infection after having had a viral pneumonia It is entirely possible that he has bacterial pneumonia and covid 19Edit this is why the treatment for viral pneumonia is often includes antibiotics Antibiotics dont prevent a viral pneumonia however it is used prophylactically to help avoid the bacterial infection that often follows viral pneumonia|1 Id argue that youre looking at this in a far too simplistic manner There is a lot of incentive for China to report their data accurately here but there is a bias against believing that from the mainstream narrativeA murderer and a dictator can still do good things It doesnt make them a better person in the end but our moral standard should allow us to commend truthful actions and denounce bad ones|0 ASAP can have meaning of o shit help us rn but also can have one of we both notice this is urgent and about to act rn China fucked up so much things but lets wait for WHO says what|0 Theres no way to see through the political barrier raised around them We dont know if people were urging steps be taken in December We also will never know what might have been if the infrastructure developed after SARS had not been defunded and dismantled Italy is at least trying We are not|0 Sore throat happens something like 80 of the time so maybe youll get lucky if you get it From what Ive seen if youre healthy it can be painful but youll get over it Dont worry too much and work to protect the elderly and already ill Were gonna get through this my man|1 Yet its ratings continue to increase|1 Youll be left with a society though unlike if you focused on saving the old|1 Some people will only learn after its too late I dont wish ill on these people but I wish there was a non harmful way for them to realize the damage caused by their obtuseness|0 Well these guys are producing it anyways as their heads and using it to sell more of the product they are licensed to sell BUY A BOTTLE OF OUR GET A BOTTLE OF HAND SANITIZER FREEedit changed foreshots to heads apparently the foreshots contain very little ethanol and make up 5 or less of the total volume foreshots heads hearts tails if anyone was interested You drink the hearts you can run the heads and tails through again or use them to clean stuff|1 Send help please they clearly need help |1 And mall Sushi I totally knew better|1 you sound like a rlly fun person|1 The TP shortage hasnt gotten you yet Lol|1 Olga Kurylenko world treasure|1 I had a serious argument with one friend of mine about effectiveness of masks He was bulletproof about them being absolutely worthless It was about in the January we havent spoke since His disregard just fucking tilted me|0 I have a friend in Switzerland that literally laughed at me when I said things will probably get relatively serious That was when they were 20 cases I think the danger is beginning to become self evident|1 Thats me One more point fits beyond that even Actually were undershooting the quadratic fit at this point Ive got some hope well get a few more days of good news out of Singapore and can start to feel better|1 In the video he still doesnt say the virus is a hoax|0 This logic might also kill them|0 This administration has collectively dropped the ballOnce the administration said go to work even if you have a mild case it became more like thishttpsmedia0giphycommediavzv3vr4AQQn4cgiphygif|1 Looks like it is stopping the IL6 immune response which I think is causing the cytokine stormhttpswwwbmjcomcontent368bmjm606rr3 I dont think it cures the virus but it stopped the deadly immunological crash response|0 Fuck until today I always thought that statist is used for conservative ideology as in ideology that wants to keep things static as they were Instead it has something to do with state and not being static Not a common term I regularly see but I have seen it thrown around a few times on reddit Can always learn something new|0 The unity I am seeing is giving me hope Weve got this|1 Ok that makes more senseI have never heard the term Chav before and in this context it just seemed to refer to any guy who can kind of act like a douchebag Thanks for the explanation|1 No That stuff is standard for many diseases The test kit consists of vials of reagents that have to be mixed together with RNA extracted from the swabvial There are short DNA stretches matching the genome of SARSCoV2 in the kit as well as enzymes that will amplify the matching sequences if they are found in the sample After everything is mixed together the tube goes into an RTPCR instrument for 12 hours which cycles the temperature rapidly to allow the enzymes to work The machine also detects a fluorescent readout that tells you that the matching sequence was found and amplified|1 Yeah what is the use bag gets dirtyIve been germaphobe since child common sense to wash hands not touch public places been doing this as long as I remember I have already disinfected my phone My phone is waterproof so I just wipe it with an alcohol based disinfectant Same goes for store bought food chocolate bars bottles etc Unfortunately packaging often wants to melt print comes off so it is not good to do it Most important is to just be aware of your own behaviour what you touch and do not touch Pour food out at home wash your hands after handling the package|0 Ive got to be honest we should be scared even if it didnt affect people in their 20s Its mega selfish not be cognisant of oldervulnerable people|0 She probably caught it in China I hope she is the honest kind and remains in self isolation If she decided to go out it would be a public health disasterPublic health better bring her anything she needs|1 No genius just a ruthless capitalist born with a silver spoon in his mouth|0 This page is still saying 0 fatalities for the 09 age group httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics|0 BILD isnt trustworthy but it wouldnt quote the chancellor false|0 No people no virus |0 Definitely get the ball rolling on unemployment asap The sooner the better|1 US 74 recovered102 dead|0 I also agree with what James said Ive changed it to original for now but if youd be willing to edit and send me via pm i can update |1 I would like to make the point that he lost the popular vote where every single person votes for a candidate and he only won because the electoral college voted the majority for himWhy we have a popular vote I dont know|1 I have a feeling thats going to happen in the US my hospital is affiliated with a medical college when push comes to shove those students will jump at the chance to work in an ICU to get real world experienceHopefully it will take some of the load off the tenured and older physicians|1 I looked for news about what Jack Ma is doing for the people who are at the real epicenter of the disease and I didnt find it Can anyone tell me if he also offered help to countries in Europe that certainly need a lot more than the United States|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Prepping to rawdog us Warming the oil Rimming our ass|0 I think the key term here is sensible preparation Be prepared for limited supply of certain things and all the frayed nervesworrystress that comes with it Not total cessation of civilizationCome to think of it were it not for my father in law being a borderline hoarder id be pretty screwed But the guy has a six month supply of bottled water paper plates plastic cutlery and condiments Ketchup is a balanced meal right|1 A teachers blessing and a cursethe gift to spot a spelling or grammatical mistake when not looking for it Ahh well|1 When you stayed in Boston the weekend the meeting took place and took the train back to Plymouth via South Station The GERMS there if any of those Biogen employees took the train home Smh|0 The CDC doesnt have treatment centers One of the biggest problems with healthcare costs is that people conflate privately owned hospitals and emergency rooms with federal state and city run clinics|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Doesnt CDC already authorize tests at states level The only thing could suppress the number of tests is available test kits now|1 The 65 age self quarentine was a recommendation The barpubwinery closure was mandated AFAIK I hope you are wrong no offense|0 Per the CDC theres been 15K40K estimated flu deaths so far this season Hard to know which ones are attributable to Covid19 until we ramp up testingEdit In the US|0 There is not enough supply of engineers for US to be 1 in every single field that existsYour arguments are all over the place First it was about working as a slave now its about apportioning engineers We dont need to be 1 at everything We simply need the capacity to survive catastrophe without relying on the good will and ability of potentially hostile nations And yes we absolutely can do it We have millions without jobs even in the best of times and weve done it before China is basically doing it now It will only get easier with automationSupply and allocation of scarce resources is the basis of economics 101Lol you dont understand how the world actually works You are taking a few academic talking points conceived using idealized cases and then taking them way past their logical relevance Countries which operate with such principles go extinct as soon as shit hits the fanAnd by the way the consequences of monopolies are also covered in economics 101 Dont allow your enemies a monopoly on critical items you cant live without is pretty standard stuff|1 Yeah were super ok with that haha I was planning on doing that anyway as even though we feel totally fine I dont want be near my elderly father for these two weeks Lots of people might be getting screwed too People with fiances cant take them back after February 2nd|1 Well based on the several US army ads that I had to sit through it seems it is|1 Wasnt there a video of someone making a solid brick from vacuuming the shitty poluted smogair for like a month 100 days dude just walked around with a big vacuum turned on and pointed at the sky probably once a day every dayIf youve lived even 10 years of your life breathing in that shit Id imagine itd have a dramatic impact on your physical wellbeing especially that of your lungs which pneumonia hones in on hardAlso TFW you finally realize where all those bottled air suppliers get their funding from|0 I have one Its kinda nice But man the weekend I got really bad food poisoning and had to practically live on the toilet that thing saved my butt Literally|0 Savings and free extended holiday from work Whats not to like Use promo code CORONA|1 Problem is 64 of Americans delay or dont seek medical care because of the cost So health outcomes in America are significantly worse With universal healthcare you can still have private healthcare That way we dont get Americans dying from not being able to afford healthcare and Americans who do have the money can opt for private healthcare if they so please|0 The implication is the small government party has broken the government to the best of their ability in order to point at it and say see the government is broken|1 Good illustration Still such a speculative outcome By the time of the feared second wave things could be very different new info on the virus which shows there wont be herd immunity new treatment which nullifies it new mutation which ignores our herd immunity etcI can see how this could be one theory presented to ministers But I worry its only appealing to them probably subconsciously because it mitigates the drastic action they need to takeI think this is supported by Hancocks recent assertion that herd immunity is not their plan Theyre not owning this idea theyre just using one incidental scientific model to justify doing very little|0 South Korea has done extensive testing and still missed cases I assume the doctors in question took that into account|0 I think the point is it was in Australia very very early As a dual CanadianAustralian citizen I have watched both countries closely Canada has worked much harder to contain and is losing control Australia has done very little and still seems to be not totally losing it|0 Any more info regarding quinine Id like to know before I go raid the store for tonic |1 USA should be much higher since it has a much higher populationIts not about population There are more Chinese travel to Japan than to US Thailand Japan and Singapore are the top three travel destination for Chinese tourist|1 Things like internet water and such arent likely to be down that would be for a virus way WAY worse to a point of switching cases of recovered and death people in that case it would be more likely|0 Yes but a relatively low percentage the younger you are Its important to spread correct information so we can act accordingly rather than flood Emergency Rooms Right now a lot of uninformed younger people in Belgium are flooding the ER with mild symptoms really straining the system The official guidelines are there for a reason and they do make sense Sick it out at home unless your health deteriorates or you get a high fever but most of all stay away from people above 6570 yoIm worried because all those people who think they are dieing when they are just fine will make it more difficult for those who are actually dieing to get help|0 Trump was too concerned with downplaying the whole thing to prevent the stock market from tanking in an election year I mean just look at the whole cruise ship thing not wanting to double our numbers over night for something that isnt our fault and now were gonna pay the price So stupidly shortsighted Really why can this country not be providing a massive supply of masks and drive through testing so people can be protected informed and properly quarantine themselves|1 South Korea was able to send people text alerts of the locations and details of new confirmed cases almost as they happened and we cant even get a once per day report out on time Fantastic|1 httpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishflumediaFileWcurvepnghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishflumediaFileWcurvepng This is a graph showing the death rates by age group for the years before the Spanish flu with the 1918 pandemic superimposed on top The huge change in deaths for younger and middleaged people was specifically due to the cytokine storm response that would disproportionately affect those with stronger healthier immune systems|1 Pathetic|0 Hello good sir Welcome to Reddit|1 I have work with great RTs I appreciate everything they do and have taught me over the years Your statement about critical care nurses is wrong As an ER Nurse we take care of critical patients on ventilators while taking care of other patients as well|1 Thank you Im particularly curious if we should expect infections through kitchen hoods bathroom ventilation As those use typically shared ventilation pathways up to the roof of the buildingYou say its not the primary means but this seems to leave some doubt about it happening sometimes|0 That was my first thought I can understand the cashier but a manager should have intervened and expelled them from the storeAlso you put that much meat in a freezer and it is probably going to take 3 days to get down to freezer temperatures|0 this is happens if the governments wrote it is a normal fluNorway a rich country they talk to dem selfs how stupid are they look to italy in a view days 90 death people|0 Im glad to see taiwan taking these precautions Theyre a major supplier for many of the computers we use every day|1 This is my best case scenario|1 OK but Im ordering some Uber Eats|1 Thats where I am and my whole family is high risk I pulled my two kids out of school two Fridays ago and have self quarantined since then Im just appalled at what is going on outside though If they end up needing anything please reach out Im wishing them the best 3|1 If everyone paid attention now together we could slow this thing down drastically But it seems like most people see it like a movie or conspiracy theory or hysteria or somethinghappeningfaraway that simply wont reach here Cant reach here EverBecause something will stop itthe government or the Summer heat probablyandor a miracle treatment even better a preventative or preemptive cure And insurance will cover itexcept during a pandemic but they probably dont know thisI think they just arent willing to entertain the possibility that scenes like what this story reports might occur soon in their own communities in their own families in their own homes Ignore it and it will go away or at least you can enjoy whatever time you have before it hitsMaybe the most difficult part will be that these people wont have prepared either physically or psychologically They havent braced themselves and anticipated likely outcomes based on evidence freely available all along by the way before making a plan and executing it It takes some time to wrap your head around this thing and then to recover and regroup before taking actionDenial aint just a river cruise location in Egypt I frankly dont understand it especially with stakes like these|1 If they put emergency orders in a month ago and shorted the pharmacy supply and had all supply directed to them they would at least be a lot better off than they are now|1 I wish you all the best of luck thanks for having me in your thoughts and I hope you the safest journey possible my dear|1 Tests in general usually have a window periodhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiWindowperiod between infection and when they will show a positive This is normalSeveral cases of Covid19 symptomatic patients have repeatedly tested negative but eventually tested positive|1 Thats elderly thoughMost developed world countries have accepted the chronological age of 65 years as a definition of elderlyhttpswwwwhointhealthinfosurveyageingdefnolderen|1 Concise reply thank you I think were pretty much on the same level I just assumed your criteria of leisure and entertainment was more lax Thanks for the reply stay safe |1 Whos taking care of the dogs|1 He came out the gate with our unprecedented responseunprecedented in what way How insanely poor it wasis|0 The best thing you can do to help others unless you are a doctor is to stay home|1 thank you updated|1 I used the word threshold in this sentence as a synonym of the phrase infection rate|1 Why the hell are people still traveling|0 Is that Tamil family still there I dont know a lot about them Guardian keeps switching to Aus version for some reason hence the even having heard about them but feels a bit harsh if theyre left there on top of everything|0 Thats because they dont have a border with China Oh wait my bad|0 They dont need to physically send medical staffs there Ten thousands infected Chinese need them much moreThey dont need to donate 31 tons high quality PPEs either Billions Chinese also need them|0 Ah totally my bad Ill edit|0 Ive seen just a tiny handful wearing masks in the mountains of western North Carolina No one has said a thing Having said that the older people that came up here to escape the pandemic people who have 2nd houses here do not care or understand social distancing If you are in a queue they stock up like 6 inches from you like someone is going to steal their spot in line Im going off on the next person that crowds me|0 China not only actively persecuted people who raised the alarm they also obfuscated the investigation into the origin and development by not allowing international teams in not doing sufficient sampling of the wet market to allow international teams to test samples and not releasing any results from what they did find whether it be what animal species or what viruses foundTheres no comparison China actively covered up the early days of the epidemic and the investigation into its origins|0 And yet the remaining uncertainty in your case could be solved by the simple addition of testing most likely The only reason it is not is because of a lack of testing capacity because of resource constraints a glaring indictment of our healthcare system in the US The spread of the virus could also be heavily mitigated by the widespread use of masks but again it is not because of resource constraints I thought we were the richest country in the world|1 i am not a ccp shill or troll i am just saying a factatleast ccp is testing thier millions of citizens without charging them thousands of dollars unlike cdc which is artificially slowing down the testing and shamelessly trying to make profit out of this pandemic|1 The CDC was politicized by the Trump administration who also cut its funding The CDC was also muzzled and a member of Congress had to shame Dr Redfield to get him to use existing law that allows the CDC to get testing done for Americans without costWho do you think directed Redfield NOT to act on the law but Trump|0 Interesting but could be due to healthy user bias But it also seems reasonable that being physcialy fit would provide some protection|1 Theyre providing funding to the affected industries And also pressuring insurers saying they have to pay if businesses could write close So those reasons are gone now I can only presume that legally they cant do it right now and are waiting for a law to pass|0 Everything about this is a bad situation So much for the social distancing You cant do that when you are elbows to elbows with someone This is how it spreads|0 This is good but its NYC its a wrap for the city as far as this virus is concerned and most of my State of NJThere are literally a million people pumping in and out of NYC from NJ and southeastern Connecticut every day like blood through a heart 10 million people ride the subways and busses every day thats a total daily ridership lots of people are using it multiple times a day but just think about how much exposure everyone in the City and North Jersey have And we are still barely testing people|1 We dont need 16 weeks we only need 6 Thats the maximum time a virus can survive without finding a new host either a person recovers and their body destroys the virus or they die and the virus in their body dies too because they need a living host to survive either way the outcome for the virus is the same Lock everything down for 6 weeks and the virus will be gone Yes it can reemerge afterwards and probably will but all we need is to stop mass community spread so that the medical system is not overburdened and can deal with it A lockdown would basically give us a clean slate to start over again but this time preparedAlso it doesnt need to be a complete lockdown Anything that keeps more people at home by themselves and not in buildings with each other helps Obviously essentials services still need to run but people who can work remotely dont need to go to work Schools and unis dont need to stay open or deliver live lectures Entertainment events dont need to happen Lots of other services dont need to be operating|1 And those markets while already a small subculture that most people here thought was weirdTrust me even very traditional old people seldom eat these damn wild animals but there are too many Chinese and even a small proportion the total number will be largeI hate those guys|0 We cant even get our government to stop flights or test people from infected areas in Canada It is a complete joke It is upsetting to see elected officials being so careless with our health in order to protect the economy I hope some common sense prevails but it wont A month ago we were being told to relax and they wanted to talk about being racist and how travel bans are just that Now theyre telling us to have an emergency supply They really seem to have underestimated this I hope it blows over but experts beg to differ Were a separate continent This could have been done much differently|0 Good analysis|1 Its easy to rag on the Mormons but as a group theyre probably better preparedhttpswwwintellectualtakeoutorgarticlewhydomormonsstockpilefood than the rest of us|1 With it being spread in feces and urine the water plume released after a flush is going to aerosolize the virus for a good hour And the hand blowers are going to spray it all over your hands|1 Oh yeah Well youre totally full of shit s|0 Its because the US is mad that China has them down on both knees|0 Sounds a bit woo i know but hemp seed oil made dramatic improvement in my arthritis no downside plus got off nsaids|1 Theyre between not causing a diplomatic problem and not infecting all of Tokyo sealing the fate of japan foreverTheyve just chosen the former now|1 Give week or 2 and Finland will be joining the 1k club thanks to our inept leaders first claiming that there is no risk of pandemic and then that a widescale pandemic is unstoppable|0 Hi This is the email I sent to my Doctor last Tuesday I do have asthma This sequence lasted till Friday evening Does it match closely what you had I couldnt get tested for the reasons you statedSince Tuesday Ive been experiencing 1 Fever in the morning of 1027 or there about low grade I take flu medicine and by 123 pm it is back to normal by 68 pm it comes back So 3 days in a row 1a Pulse during this time is between 90100 bpm SpO2 is good around 9497 1b My chest feels tight but I am using my inhaler 2 Chills during this time and then sweating when fever breaks 3 Tuesday was 12 days from a workshop I did in my office We had a person from overseas I do not know if they had corona virus or not 4 I am doing the Singapore test of a deep inhale hold for 10 seconds and if no coughing great Luckily Im not coughingDoctor ResponseHey xxxx just tried calling Based on your symptoms and your ho asthma you would be considered high risk if exposed to Coronavirus So if your fever persists you have ANY shortness of breath difficulty breathing or O2 saturation less than 90 you need to go to ER Please stay super hydrated with water andor electrolyte replacements like liquid IV or pedialyte Let me know how you are doing tomorrow|1 Must be some damn good kebab thenOh jeez i can imagine it all now people dealing with sanitiser and toilet paper might bring the drug market down|1 Im not optimistic about it changing in these parts of Europe I still havent even figured out how I can elegantly avoid having to kiss people on the cheek as a greeting|1 Yes Presumptive Positive in MA means the STATE LAB has tested positive Testing is being done in MA probably about 5001000 tests per day Per current CDC guidelines as to who gets the test which is being rationed|1 Warning Its in Italian If you dont speak Italian you could just fastforward to the last quarter to see the images Nothing that interesting for nonItalian speakers though to be honest|0 Instead of saying stop can we get a more specific definition of what it means to fearmonger I think to truly get people to stop doing things is when we educate them more and explain more|0 Nice illustration|1 Basically they encouraged people to stay home from Thursday but they dont have enough time to make the law forcing everyone to do it so they said Monday since they expect to have the law ready Friday and then weekend and first schoolwork day after that|1 Those people are called dumb money Wait until they whine about being down 40 percent and selling at a loss because they cant afford to lose it all then buy back in|0 We wear gloves during regular operations and weve been using lysol wipes to clean our workstations but we havent been allotted extra time in the morning to do this thoroughly and some people are nervous that others dont properly wipe their equipment down Amazon has also told us that masks are not required PPE for us and that according to the safety specialists masks do not stop the virus from spreading Most people want masks in the FC but theyre telling us that it wont prevent the spread of the virus if someone in the building had it which weve been saying is BS As far as the drivers Im not too sure I only see them every once and a while and havent seen them since the outbreak started|1 Immune system goes overload|0 Damn Gotta go grab some TP Haha|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 So this has already happened once in recent history and thats with the H1N1 spanish flu Every year humans got better at fighting it off and it got better at not killing its host Its going to absolutely suck but it probably wont kill as many people the second year|1 Thats simply is bs Yeah our system might not be perfect but If you have serious problems or are an emergency you will always get your treatment immediately I had to wait too for an MRT for like 4 weeks but It was not a serious case so that was fine And that doctors dont hand out the hard stuff that easily just like in the USA is a good thing|1 how long are you planning on quarantine weve been self isolated since third week of Feb|0 Dont spread the fake news with fear mongeringThere is no spike in swine flu Its just reported due to this virus In fact swine flu numbers are less compated to last year Approximately there were 1200 swine flue cases in 2019 Jan Feb compared 800 now|0 Im notAnd if I am the chances are still very low23 weeks from now they wont be10 weeks from now its about 1 in 2 chance of having itFor now though even if the numbers are of by 30x its still pretty safe especially where I am|1 Hopefully government stimulus and sound epidemiological work limits the fall out and protects these folks For the somewhat less vulnerable there are risks to peoples retirement savings401Ks Some people move to commodities like gold or now bitcoin to avoid the economic harm Is anyone getting out of stocks and into goldHere is a interesting article by an actual gold refiner about the economic impact of the coronavirus and other issues as they pertain to the price of gold httpblogpeaseandcurrencom20200227longwillgoldstay1600perouncegoldrefinerperspective|1 Hi could you have posted this account without mentioning that the nasty guy was Asian Its not good to be out coughing and sniffing like theres no tomorrow at any time but at the moment Chinese people and people of Chinese descent are getting subjected to racism and prejudice because some people associate them with harbouring SARSCov2 Its not fair on them By all means say nasty guy but does it really need to mention his ethnicity Thanks|0 Training is not wasted time|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Cheers grammar police My bad|0 Agreed The s worry me Have an MD and MPH but have been out of public health for a long time Survivability is not great Not great I find it ofd that the fatality rate is 49 for cases multi organ system failure and no fatalities for severe cases which look like pneumonia bad enough to need to be hospitalized and on oxygen Unless Im missing something 47 are crustal and 49 of those patients died But multi organ system failure without ICU care is pretty much fatal 138 of patients have pneumonia badly enough that they need to be hospitalized What I dont see here is what is happening to these patients Are they still sick Who progressed how long did it take Overall thats 20 who are not going to do well without high level medical care Also Theres a comment about how 39 percent of health care workers had severe or critical cases but that number is down to 12 Should health care workers are getting hit harder and this is theoretically a healthier population is it a dose dependent effect or are they just exposed to the sickest patients And if China is optimistic that things are improving why start sterilizing cash It still feels like theres a lot of unknown information The older cases have a higher fatality rate and that worries me In my experience CDC at least 10 year ago is pretty straight and gives good factual information but is conservative about making sure theres not premature supposition I think US data will give us a better picture f how well see it evolve when not confined to a single source Im definitely getting enough worried|0 Sorry for being a cunt but that just sounds like a whole crop of mentally ill people whove segregated themselves to a single state Theres nothing wrong with having extra supplies on hand but having prepper services is insane 0000005 of the country has died all of which were people who were on their last legs already Buying 6 months of toilet paper and lentils is absurd|0 We did The electoral college fucked us|0 Cruise ships are perfect quarantine facilities Rent them to the US Gov when shit eventually hits the fan|1 Indeed bur what happened to prevention instead of reaction My school is fully capable of hosting lessons online already|1 They had 100k test kits At the very beginningNo way theyre out after only finding 7k infected Edit Thanks for all the thumbs down I had assumed people on this sub would know more than the average ignoramus but apparently not As AmodernAlchemist explains below the test kit uses a very generic test which is used for a great deal many other things All they needed was the sequencing which the first sample provided a chance on ec 26th the coronavirus showing up in the sample 10 days later They used that to genetically sequence the virus Sorry apparently there were at least 125k test kits delivered early on in January So sorry for being wrong and saying it was only 100khttpsmpweixinqqcomsJazc0sbrp8ozVScWm3ksfQ I linked the whole paragraph in the hopes more people will actually sit down and try to read more info from the source instead of just blindly accusing people of being wrong when they themselves have zero idea on how genetic sequencing or virus testing is actually done Kthxbye|0 Bad component bad luck Bad design|0 Nope we are The one guy that died today had reported other issues and was a Pflegefall Needed permanent or at least moderate care|0 Yeah definitely take a break from this sub I spent 6 hours on it and was shaking so hard i had to do breathing exercises just to calm down |1 Ahh the classic UofT mentality of whats the point in living if I dont get into grad school anyway Unfortunately Im only half joking|0 Im from PA Glad my home state is doing the right thing Nevada is being so stubborn about the casinos|0 Im currently at a clinic thats 5 minutes drive away from where Tom was filming There are signs in every entrance saying that if you have a fever or any of the other symptoms to call a particular number and not enter the building Theres hand sanitizer everywhere The doctor is my buddy and he just came out of an hour long meeting Will ask him what his opinion is and will report backEdit OK my doc said that they are going to be setting up drivethru style of testing units very soon in our city The clinics will be testing for symptoms in the parking lot and whenever they suspect someone may have it will be sent to a specific testing centre that has the tests for now He also said that it transmits mostly through touching surfaces as the virus can stay alive for 5 days He also suggested that as soon as children come home from school we should make them shower right away because they will likely be the central hubs of transmission Edit 2 While I was there someone called wanting to get tested My doctor had all sorts of protective equipment to go test people at the parking lot They wouldnt even let people into the elevators|1 No word on deployment date but they are cheap 10000|0 Okay thats good to know and moderately concerning|1 yea they care more about money than our lives|1 The only thing that will shut those smoothbrains up at this point is millions of deaths But the US is making sure that we stay in the dark about how many of the people dying in the US right now are dying of corona|1 Make sure she calls 911 if it doesnt start to get better Praying for your momChances are its not COVID19 But Pneumonia in older people is still nothing to sneeze at|1 seems pretty damning|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Naw but it wont happen to us Were special|1 Yep The idiot put the guy who doesnt believe in science in charge of it and then announced that the whole thing is a hoax by democrats That should tell you a lot about how republicans are going to be responding to this one|0 Back in my day fucking Ricky filled a entire kiddie pool with liqueur No better way to wade out this shiticane then neck deep in 80 proof|1 Even if you arent sick or in tough times religion can help with a lot of the stressors of everyday life Just the belief that theres something bigger can be a relieving thought|1 Meanwhile a 36 year old died after recovering|0 There is a study out of China showing the virus is aerosolized infecting someone on the bus at 4m distance and another person half an hour after initial source left the bus What we know from general polution aerosols from car trafic and industry process is that it drops with distance cubed so 5 meters away its low levels and barely measurable at half a block distance it also clears about half an hour after rush hour As for the virus on surfaces in 511C it can last a median of 9 days with up to 28days 3 bleach or 60 alcohol is good for disinfectant For higher temperatures like summer it drips down to 5 minutes And we dont know but we presume uv light also kills it|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 You are right in general think hazmat suits but not in this case The US and many countries has many many many tests they just arent allowed to be used by the US FDA For example Roche a swiss firm with US operations has had a rapid PCR test ready to go 400000day capacity at full tilt The FDA twaddled and only approved the test today|1 Air evac can run 50K for a five minute ride in a chopper Its not unheard of for insurance to have an allowed amount of a tenth that for the ride So the insurance will only cover 5K or something like that Then if the patient has a 8000 deductible they can end up owing the entire cost because of course the air ambulance company balance bills |1 Kroger is cutting hours too|0 Youd rather possibly infected nurses continue to work and then infect other wards like prenatal pregnant moms to be babies other people in hospital for nothing to do with Coronavirus Because that was the reason for one of the huge clusters in South Korea at the start of this outbreak|1 And if anyone is still confused you have to use your third hand for the third shell|1 Well he gets punched in the head for a livingStrange dialect to be expected|1 Yeah amnesty international Vice and Washington post has had a hardon for China for decades now Its fashionable to hate China cause they are kermunists and because the US government have painted any country that is ideologically different as evil since the world war Why dont you read a balanced diet of papers from various sources especially eastern ones There are independent ones from Singapore and HK like Channel News Asia Its pretty clear your party politics when you post something like that as a response and Im not here for politics|1 Nobody at my work seems concerned either Ive been prepping for months now and when I asked my director last week what the plans were in the event of an outbreak he pretty much said there are no plans and that it wouldnt happen to us so no need to even think about a plan|0 Wow Id be a ball of anxiety Hugs from Texas Its a matter of time before its hits us hard Im thankful for grocery delivery|1 It was edited and my company is small so theres probably no way youve heard of us A lot of companies that make things will quote out the component parts and assemble in house Managing a machine shop as well as the rest of your business is hard and if you want things quickly its much faster to have five outside machine shops working on your components than relying on a one or two shift machine shop with limited machining|0 Leaving the EU does not help travel is still free across the channel for another year I believe but thats not the point 200 cases across the nation and it isnt going to stop Locking the borders wont do anything productive because the problem is now internal|0 I got some Drostes dark chocolates on Amazon that looks like came from China Used to be able to get this in the last place I lived but the stores around here quit carrying them a decade agoIm just going to let that case sit a good couple of weeks until we jam down on those pastilles I can wait Yes I washed the heck out of my hands and sterilized the counter where I opened it|1 Gonna be awkward when a ton of the Boomers die from the Covid plague and weak ass millennials use their bootstraps to die less Shouldve tried harder i guess Boomers|0 In the US we give people a bill and tell them to fuck off|0 lmao the number of death from China is looking like absolute fucking joke right now Hope all goes well with Italy and thank you for being transparent so we understand how bad it actually is and how much bullshit were being fed to by the CCP|1 Yeah Most people dont know the names of African nations like Chad Ethiopia Somalia Lesotho ecc|1 Not at all The kids and her will be fine its the poor older Gens and peoples with pre existing that will suffer because of them Quite the opposite of natural selection|0 Im in the same boat and not allowed to WFH despite being able to Was told I cant have special treatment just because Im pregnant|0 Stop being mad at the people who are making this problem worse|0 I own three properties Unless the mortgage taxing authorities and insurance companies forgive payments I will continue to collect rent|1 Trump banned flights early and Dems called it rascist then many on here got called racists for claiming it didnt go far enoughbut the cdc is playing politics covering for TrumpFucking what|0 I read this announcement and I dont see anything about stopping the export It just said that they made amendments to their policies Do you have another source that says they are actually stopping exports|0 Actually it was Clinton strategist James Carville who said The economy stupid It was addressed to the Bush White House as a critique It was brutally effective helping Clinton beat Bush|0 I have masks for my wife and I in the event they run out of PPEThe hospital wont care Everyone is too busy|0 its not that rare but it sucks because its the default blood type used for blood transfusions when the persons bloodtype is unknown and we Os can only take O and rhNull but thats fucking rare af|0 According to this report from korea biomed they are using hydroxychloroquine plaquenil because regular chloroquine phosphate is unavailable not entirely surprising because s korea clocks like 500 cases of malaria every year and probably mostly utilizes plaquenil as an immunomodulatory drug like in most western countrieshttpwwwkoreabiomedcomnewsarticleViewhtmlidxno7428|1 Convincing them to consistently wash their hands and to avoid touching their faces is the most crucial thing for reducing the chance of infection from what I know so farI would argue to them that the downsides of doing so are virtually nonexistent in the case this virus isnt a big deal like they think and significant if they are so you might as well Depending on the type of person they are and the dynamics of your relationship I might consider something like for eg making a playful 5 bet that youre right and theyre wrong youre most likely wrong but its a good investment or mention that it also helps prevent catching the flu and some other infections as a bonus Unless youre in a highrisk region you will most likely be fine in any case I like the following graphic for conveying the potential severity of things to people uninformed httpsncovioBest hygeine practices from what Ive read so far Try to avoid sharing a small or enclosed area with people who appear to have flulike symptoms when possibleYou should try to wash your hands on exit and entry of your home before and after cooking before and after eating after using the bathroom immediately before touching your face if you need to otherwise dont after shaking peoples hands just whenever youre afforded the chance to if you havent recently and may have come into contact with contaminated entities sinceIf anyone has any advice to add let me know|1 I dont doubt it|1 in a grimmer way if we didnt raise billions of animals only to slaughter eat them our collective carbon footprint would decrease by a ridiculous amount|0 You arent wrong But I think the pros outweigh the cons in this situation|1 The population of Italy is 60480000 1128 people are reported to have the virus Which means 000001865 of the population has it Sounds like a crisis to me|0 Theres a difference between preparing for something to be inconvenient to your daily life and to act like this is going to kill you if youre not in a highrisk group If youre not in a high risk group and acting like the world is going to end and youre going to die yes You are being irrational|0 you can say im panicking but id rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it Mine got here today full face respirator p100 filters P100 masks full body condom duct tape Im as cool as a fan gat in hand I dont wanna blast my man but I can and I will though|1 Its probably for the best Darwin would be proud|1 They are true about the number from test but they are trying to control the test number by limiting the available test|1 hopefully this will help us get airbnb out of this cityi hope you dont catch it as well|1 Anyone could see this wasnt just the flu with the drastic measures China took Since when have we seen 56 million people quarantined Do they really think China would fuck their economy so much for something that wasnt a drastic issueThe only thing I worry is how these people who are in serious denial will react when reality sets in|0 Yes it was jan 1 The doc was sending texts about it a day or two before|1 Ive pulled my son from nursery already even though none of us have any underlying health issues but I dont want to be responsible for increasing the spread of the virus Right now everyone should be doing the same in order to not be responsible for the avoidable deaths of our community but its like talking at a wall to most people |1 Your post has been removed because this may not be a reliable source Please resubmit your post with a link to an internationally recognized news organization or an recognized institutionIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 havent heard anything official out of philadelphia yet its definitely in montgomery county not sure about community transmission so far|1 Gonna be tricky to separate the coronavirus from politics in America|0 Wow Super motivating Im similar Pack a day for about 20 years Im going to use the patch but I know after a few days that it will make me feel sick So Im probably going to go the same route Thanks for sharing and the encouragement|1 YOLO with KOLO|1 I feel like this is a little misleading I mean there arent millions of people out there guzzling bleach in a panic This is very clickbait which is happening a lot with stuff associated to the virus right nowAre there crazy people out there drinking bleach Probably Is this a significant number of people or people who didnt probably already do this before this all started NoSome websites and organizations are really really taking advantage of this and its getting kind of lame There was no begging here Poison Control noted they had received some reports and basically reminded everyone that it is a stupid thing to do They didnt put out an urgent public broadcast that broke through all other news because massive numbers of people were drowning themselves in bleach|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Care to explain|1 About a month ago in Seattle I wasnt worried at all Now everything is shut down restaurants bars recreational facilities my kids preschool and all her activities etc|1 Well know when its too late for sure Those studies are on SARS and MERS though so may not be the same for the Wuhan virus who knows|1 Economically hes not left wing on immigration hes vague his healthcare plan was kind of nonexistent He always talked about a public option but his plan never actually included oneThey arent a left right issue theyre a lib issue The left doesnt believe in the disarmament of the working class in general See The socialist rifle association|0 II The preventative measures were poorSouth Korea were one of the few countries in the world to not ban travelers from China not even quarantining and testing themAccording to ReutershttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthsouthkoreachurchmembersofchurchatcenterofsouthkoreascoronavirusoutbreakvisitedwuhankcdcidUSKBN20O1D5SEOUL Reuters Some members of a church at the center of South Koreas coronavirus outbreak visited the Chinese city of Wuhan in January where the disease is believed to have originated the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on SundayMost of the South Korean patients were traced to a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in the southeastern city of Daegu The church had a presence in WuhanKwon Junwook a KCDC official confirmed for the first time that some members of the church visited Wuhan during a briefing He said it was unclear how many went there and whether the trip played a role in the outbreakEmphasis minePatient 29 30 and 31 were all community cases who got infected from someone else around the end of Jan and beginning of Feb Assuming that they were only the second link in a chain and not somewhere further down we can see that the people who infected them were infected by end of Jan at the latest estimation when there was 17 000 infected cases in Hubei the Chinese authorities hadnt enacted lockdown on Hubei and prevented Chinese nationals from going to other countries on tours and the South Korean government didnt even enact quarantine on all travelers from China Even if a member of Shincheonji travelling from Wuhan was the only patient 0 the only reason why they would managed to get in and spread the disease undetected in South Korea was because the South Korean government refused to enact proper preventative measures and waited for China to do it for them And judging from the 4 different alarm bells within 2 weeks either there wasnt only 1 patient 0 or there was a super spreader patient 0 undetected Further genetic testing of the viral strains within the infected population can determine exactly which scenario it was but as of now I havent come across such reportTo sum up part 2 The preventative measures to prevent the epidemic from entering the country were either lacking or done poorly in line with the subsequent poor containment measures and failure to put out the epidemic quickly due to inherent structural problemsIII The inherent structural problemsA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease and not wear masks is allowed to exist and spread their ideology for yearshttpseditioncnncom20200226asiashincheonjisouthkoreahnkintlindexhtmlA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease was allowed to infiltrate the political and healthcare system so deeply that a senior health official in charge of infection prevention in Daegu was discovered to be a member after he was tested positivehttpswwwlatimescomworldnationstory20200227southkoreacoronaviruscasessurveillanceA healthcare and political system inexperienced with and reactive instead of proactive in dealing with epidemic having overfocused on preparing for when the epidemic had already got out of control having failed to prepare and enact the measures in the 2 most crucial time periods of epidemic development the preventative windows and the containment windowsA healthcare political and social structure that allows people to skip quarantine and testing even in a middle of a pandemic of all things when the lives of thousands of people both inside the country and in the world are on the lineA healthcare political and social structure that condemns other countries for having actually preventing the spread by quarantining testing and treating their people Because human rights Even when thousands are going to be deprived their own basic human rights to be healthy to have medical attention and to be not dead because of such human rightsA government that did not stand up to protect its people against the slightest pressure from the neighborhood superpower that same human rights violator neighborhood superpower even though that neighborhood superpower later retracted the pressure and enacted the travel restriction themselves But that government would readily kick up a storm when other countries actually do what they failed to doThe sensationalist media and government authorities keep on shifting all the blames on various other targets other than themselves instead of recognizing the inherent structural problems in the South Korean political and healthcare system and actually fixing themWhile many many South Korean individuals especially the healthcare professionals have been doing their best to fight back the epidemic it is also undeniable that the political and healthcare structure of South Korea as a whole did very poorly in preventing and containing covid19 resulting in the silent spread of the epidemic among the population around end of January and early February which was the reason why the number of reported infected cases spiked around the end of February|0 Damn thats 150 francs worth of concert tickets gone Tbh Im happy were not just stuffing our heads completely in the sand|1 unfortunately the majority of Chinese people dont make that distinction fortunately most young Chinese people do|0 Oh I totally agree that if youre unsure just to dump and replace I just wouldnt want anyone to panic about having used a bleach solution that is three days old or to worry unnecessarily about refreshing an unused bleach container every day|0 The sad part is with specialists supposedly getting close to the cure for it all of us that have played Plague Inc know that this is where the tide shifts and shit hits the fan |0 Im curious do you really see food shortages happening Even in Wuhan Ive heard no reports of that being the case It seems to me like food is not going to be a problem unless we all become crazy hoarders|0 Of course New York City had about 13 of these new cases and since its a super crowded city I think the virus will spread faster than in most other places Seeing how exponentially the virus grows I only mildly be surprised to see the city streets get pretty empty in like 2 weeks|1 I literally have all supplies I need once again who doesnt have medical supplies at their homeYou guys are strange and very mean Ive been through illnesses that caused a higher percentage of deaths than this coronavirus so yeah Im not worried Once again Im making thousands per day thanks to the virus|1 You are such a moron Please educate yourself so you dont look like an idiot spewing all this imagined doom httpsblogsprucehealthcomcoronaviruswhosgoingtodie|0 Yes but will there be any good games|1 Doctors are absolutely not contributing to the egregious cost of healthcare in america To the average american their salaries may seem high However the average american quite frankly has no real notion of what it means to be a practicing primary care physician or what it actually takes to become one Even more removed are the daytodays of surgeons or emergency physicians If youve never seen first hand the stresses involved or the schedules kept or the knowledgeskill required then its not something most people realize I actually think most people wouldnt believe it If anything primary care salaries are criminally low for what they deal with Theres definitely an argument to be made about salary disparities between specialties but thats another issue Overall the glut of bullshit administration executive pay insurance gouging and the inefficiency of defensive vs preventative care are astronomically larger contributing factors The absurdity of healthcare costs in this country is not caused by the clinicians|0 I always liked Taco Bell then they added breakfast and I loved it Now theyre doing this and Im ready to firebomb some taco johns|1 Peed out my butt lol thats a new phraseWas it like taking magnesium citrate before a colonoscopy Lol|1 In the event of a shortage of medical staff within our communities It may be advised to review this published document to better understand symptoms risk factors of pneumonia and how to scale severity The more you understand the secondary illness the better your actions and response will be to help loved ones a stranger or yourselfThis document outlines everything you may need to know in the event you have a pneumonia case in front of you needing attention|1 Never let facts get in the way of a good witch hunt|1 Thats awful news|0 Are you serious He doesnt take a salary as a gesture that fools the gullible Its nothing compared to what hes making by using the office in his business connectionshttpswwwhuffpostcomentrytrumpgolfmaralagotaxpayersn5e4712b9c5b64d860fcab86c|0 The concept of speeding up PCR by flowing the reaction between a hot region and a warm region rather than by heating and cooling a tube is not new I found a 2004 review httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15570378httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15570378 Its not that useful in a diagnostics lab because the regular RTPCR instrument is versatile each reaction is cheap and 2 hours vs 40 min is usually not critical But for an epidemic situation like this an expensive but fast labonachip validated for one specific disease can be useful The validation for one virus can be done in a few weeks|1 Lmao hows that ccp paycheck|1 Thee last thing Australia needs right now is to be responsible for killing Tom Hanks|0 Adults Or people Because I expect many kids havent had the chance but that gives a slightly different impression|1 From my friend on We Chat yesterday I am so scared now about this virus I hurt my back badly last week and it isnt getting any better but I cannot go to the hospital No one will be able to care for me with so many sick with this virus and I may get sick too The virus is not getting any better around here Kunming This is a friend who laughed at my concerns at the beginning saying she was more worried about me and the flu we have here in Canada Shes not talking that way now I have friends in Wuhan tootheir messages are getting fewer and fewer and I notice more censorship on our conversations on We Chat too|0 I think by the end of next week well see it in some cities around the country But I actually kind of doubt there will be a national lockdown That is unless something truly earthshaking happens like the President coming down sick That would likely shake things so much that panic would set in After that anything could happen|0 Costco is amazing I ordered my stuff before lunch today by 3pm the same day they wer at my front door with my 25 lb of rice and canned goods I was so glad ididnt have to go out|1 Because freedoms and liberty Neither of which come cheap If you want a full on martial law consider yourself fascist|1 i partially agree but then informing and protecting the public without playing the severity down seems to have worked out well for example in taiwan and singapore|1 It is far more likely an issue in testing Thus why out of the well over 70k who recovered worldwide we are hearing about this type of scenario few and far between|1 His age isnt the only factor here Was he healthy Was he a chronic smoker Did he have lung issues Immunity issues Any other high risk factors|1 Oh nooo im asian and have A fuck me |0 I will be messaging you in 52 minutes on 20200302 184433 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003022018443320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcef5matruestdescriptionofthesituationinusivefjad5rdcontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffcef5m2Fatruestdescriptionofthesituationinusive2Ffjad5rd2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030220183A443A3320UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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higher rates Only 3 of tests were coming back positive in MN As other commenters mention please treat the tests as a limited resources still|1 This is the only amount of information that people should need to hear If China barely did it arguably maybe not how the hell is the rest of the world supposed to contain it collectively and not crash the global economyIf this gets as bad as I believe it will anyone who brushed it off is getting permanently labelled as stupid from me Those complacent and ignorant people are the reason why the world is how it is|0 httpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirushttpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirusWe have tested over 11000 people to find 180 cases That is better than South Korea For every 61 tests 1 has COVID19 and 60 have the flu or the cold|1 My dad is in his mid sixties and hes convinced that hes invincible despite all the facts I dont know what Im going to do with him|1 You may want to Source the data in the graphs|1 Oh look someone else in China that says things arent that bad while multiple cities with 10s of millions of citizens are under what we would call martial law Totally normal totally cool perfectly safe|1 fat headed weirdo|0 You called the wrong person in your county government There is zero chance a public health department in the US doesnt know about covid19 If you need assistance tell me the county and state and Ill get you a number|0 How are you all stockpiling n95 masks Buying online or at some place Also what model is recomended I have seen some reusables one at amazon whete you change the filter every time you use it I think but I dont know if that would be to risky for virus since you reused it every time you use it|0 Right I remember China flu being considered the more serious one then something I didnt understand happened now I dont even know which one is supposed to be the more casualserious one|0 Thanks for sharing|1 Yeah everyone panicking is only making me panic Those folks should just post in rcovid19support But that sub doesnt allow posts that strokes fear|0 Not only China and WHO Of course CCP started it concealed the whole thing so CCP should be held responsible mostly WHO is also obviously at fault for their slow responses But I dont believe its only themI was shocked when I heard many Americans and Europeans do not wear masks out of fear that they might be viewed as a sick person I was also shocked when some European nations stopped tracking that early onYes it was China who dumped shit on the globe but the responsibility to clean up their backyard from a diplomatic perspective always has fallen on each nation On MERS outbreaks SARS outbreaks so on And once some nation cant clean it up sufficiently they are at fault too though their shares might differ from ChinaIt is to be seen If there is any nation that makes a significant contribution to this hellish situation going on Im gonna blame them hard as well I am this close to blaming those European folks because I fail to believe they did their absolute best But for now China and WHO gets most of the share|0 I imagine it would be Slow and arduous with the Transportation on lockdown and workers quarantined In terms of safety too how sure are you the shipment will be safe The virus can reportedly live 49 days on a surface This is a big lesson not to rely on one economy for production and manufacturing|1 Its the pneumonia in this virus that is dangerousRegular flu doesnt give you pneumonia at the se rate and this virus spreads much more sneakily than the flu|0 That vaccine might be better than nothing Imagine if you got a secondary bacterial lung infection or something I had a secondary bacterial infection similar wasnt based in the lungs though On its own it wasnt very serious But on top of the other symptoms I had I was admitted to the hospital and needed an IV and multiple painkillers to bring the severe inflammation down You do not want other things stacked on top of this new virus|1 really makes you think about how shallow and callous most of us have grown to hearing about people dying that we can scoff at even a thousand having their lives cut prematurely leaving at least double that number grieving|0 Thank God|1 The curve is meaningless when the curve is limited by tests|0 With their plans to gerrymander the electoral map and remove judicial review they aint gonna care about losing numbers|0 Wise|1 Dead citizen stop touching your face or we will kill you again|0 Who would judge you for that No one worth a damn thats for sure|0 Ouch lol|1 Fucking insanity humanity running full steam to oblivion|0 R7 2700x RTX 2070 Super Lets do this|1 Same here Experienced major trauma in 2019 and have finally recently been on the mend and feeling somewhat happy and normal again and now this this is ruining the little sanity I had left I also suffer from extremely bad OCD which includes a healthy anxiety so this is just really bad for me Not to mention my husband works for transit in a major city that is being hit really hard so the chances of us getting it is very high Im a wreck right now|0 But we didnt handle it any better or worse than other countries not that I think we handled it wellWhat country do you think did handle it well|1 Ok thanks|1 Coronachan will keep your skin in the game whether you like it or not|1 Id have to go searching but I had the opposite impression so Id pose the same question in return did you have any source saying they did not sample from the market|1 All my older grandparents are hunkering down and well prepared They are taking this seriously and have ever since they built a hospital in China for the outbreak They know this is serious I dont think its necessarily an age thing I think it just depends on how you grew up and your families mentality more than anything We are much younger than them and we are taking it serious as well No we are not buying tons of tp and going crazy but we are being very cautious and not going anywhere thats not a necessity right now|0 Could not help but to get emotional reading this Those doctors went through hell and back And now theyre diving right into it in another country What a bunch of champions|0 How is the story of this surprising Thats so called government doesnt give a s about its people|1 They werent going to delay it see other reply Now they have the worst of both worlds theyre instituting the economy wrecking measures anyway but its already out of control because theyre so lateThe best response would have been the same as SK Singapore etc social distancing test like crazy contain anyone positive|1 Sadly since most states are atwill most people will likely get fired for thisEven people with sick leave usually have to come in A lot of employers give you sick leave but punish you by withholding raises and promotions if you use itAmerica |0 Lol as if Canada is any better until yesterday passengers from Europe could still freely enter the country without any screening Even after Trudeau announced the travel ban today oversea Canadian citizens could still come back without enforced quarantineTesting is limited and people with symptoms could not be testedThere is no mandated closure of any nonessential businesses|1 Why are we so incapable of learning from others experiences We watched this happen in other countries for the past two to three months now and were over here like Duuuuh looks like they were right all along|1 My government is still saying asymptomatic infections cant spread the virus and you cant test people that are asymptomatic so Not a lot of Hope|0 Corona just evolved minor organ failure|0 The important takeaway here is that everything from your post you just made up and pulled out of your ass PROBABLY|0 I have 14 hour flight coming up at the end of the month I really hope its not like this|1 30 million uninsured another 120 million 100M underinsured I have expensive health insurance and I cant tell if Im covered I wont know until I file a claim This virus is going to destroy the bankruptcy courts in a few months Their caseload is going to be untenable|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 But you did get to see Tool so while I hope you get better I am jealous of that concert|1 So nothing confirmed chronically this is for patients that just recovered Alarming but not surprising given how serious viral pneumonia can be because of lack of treatment The lung epithelial cells do have regenerative potential as they usually do from pneumonia|0 Thanks|1 I mean yes its mostly flexing but when Italy asked the EU every other member country refused and said they need their supplies for themselves China sending anything at all still puts them in first place Also PAYING for something is irrelevant in a pandemic like this Dude masks are like 1each who really cares The US fed just injected 15 trillion dollars into the US economy out of thin air even paying 10x the price for masks do you think that would get them 150 billion masks|1 Glad youre feeling a bit better As a runner the prospect of getting this and getting long term damage terrifies me|1 I just baked some cookies for this here talent show Wanna try one young buck|1 It is that we have a free market healthcare system|1 In a few years someone will make a Chernobyl HBOstyle documentary on Covid19 it will kill a lot of people a lot It is going to push every country to the breaking point|0 Because he was hospitalized since the 19th and doctors forced the CDC hand eventually|1 She looks like Hilary Running to puke|0 Came to this exactlyHere is the HBP stats for China httphtmlrhhznetzhlxbx20180208htmhttphtmlrhhznetzhlxbx20180208htmAccording to this study for Chinese 65 there is 6070 they have high blood pressureNoteworthy the ratio of relative young population comes with pretty high as well like for 35ish men 25 have high blood pressure But the CFR for this age group is still lowI have HBP myself and am taking ARB regularly I do some study on this topic attentively in recent daysThe best source I found so far is below in Chinesehttpswxnqqcomcmsid20200304A05VM900httpswxnqqcomcmsid20200304A05VM900Key findings is that1 HBP Alone doesnt necessarily make you more susceptible to COVID19 the ratio of admitted patient with HBP is inline with general population2 Currently there is no direct evidence in between high ACEII expression and severeness of how COVID19 progressThus my current thoughts1 Age is probably the dominant factor in COVID19 and HBP is more pervasive in aged group2 No direct correlation between taking HBP medication and susceptibility to COVID193 COVID19 will however cause it is harder to control your blood pressure especially in ACEI medication so alternative medication might be necessary For ARB medication there is no conclusion right now4 All that said how does HBP works with COVID19 is still largely unknown But it is better to more cautious if you already have it If you are on meds keep taking it and follow what the doctor says|1 University of Washington is pumping out tests at 200 each The Washington department of health just got 100 million from the state rainy day fund to cover Coronavirus testing and care Washington state looks like a hot zone because Washington is actually testing peopleHow many other states are having a bad flu season but simply arent testing to see if the flu their residents are getting is Covid19|0 Anecdotal here as well MidJanuary my 17yo daughter came down with flu like symptoms 103104 fever dry cough etc Took her to the clinic and tested negative for the flu She had those symptoms for 14 days before finally getting better Tamiflu was not helpful We sequestered her and my 12yo daughter was the only other in the family that caught it too Her symptoms only lasted 34 days Probably wasnt COVID19 but we keep wondering Maybe|0 This is the issue with medical research So many variables contradicting results and imperfect methodologies We just dont know currently|0 Thats an important point to mention|1 Farts Great|1 Could hardly follow this idiot Has to brag about something every other sentence|0 Because political campaigns arent publicly funded and not enough people have voted for Bernie Sanders so far to be able to do anything about it Every major problem in the US that isnt fixed yet is because of money in politicsEdit Grammar|0 These numbers are based on people being treated in hospital resting in beds with 247 care ventilators etconce all that shit runs out mortality rate will skyrocket|0 HOLY FUCKIN SHIT Now the contagion is spreading amongst the young and healthy the ones who have resisted longer at home treating themselves with known medicationsShit just got real|0 I was asking about the source for the SARS data for your graph not the nCoV data though In one of the other threads there was some discussion on basically when the SARS data starts Doesnt make sense for example to compare the spread in the second month of SARS to the first month of nCoVTo put it more clearly what Im after Is the first day of SARS epidemic comparable to the first day of nCoV epidemic in your graphs eg patient zero or similar criterion|1 Its a Russian disinformation campaign They dont want it getting back to them so they are having China blame the US Russia has been repeatedly creating disinformation campaigns around the world This is just their next step to complete and total chaos|0 Ahhh the Kung Fu death touch|0 Everywhere Sub China flu epidemic google corona lungs respiratory and see lungs before and after Look up immunity and reinfection There is SO much we dont know about the virus|0 Good advice Im mobile tho so if it goes down Im going full ghost|1 Well said Im debating staying home tomorrow with my kids Going to sleep on it and get up early to make that decision|1 Theres one in texas right now i know because my texan friend wont shut up about it|1 Yes|1 Sadly its way too late Dudes|0 I live in Washington state My school is closed all large gatherings are shutdown and in general we are waiting All tech companies are work from home which is a huge portion of city employment Sure a lot of schools are open and 30 miles in any direction from me people are acting pretty normal but I would say that travel was cut by 50 The virus spreads at a doubling rate of 6 days If you can slow it down to even 9 days thats months of time bought|1 Appreciate your comments for keeping this discussion away from politics mamaofseven For masks Im guessing to say the least in about 4 weeks they are gonna be necessary if you have to go to crowded places Id say keep looking My friend told me they got some in the store where Ive been looking but found nothing This was two days ago so at least they are still stocking them up in stores I agree with some other people in this thread that at least masks keep your hands away from your faces even not n95 At this point I dont think China is underreporting any more In fact they did underreporting only in the very early stage Starting right before CHINESE new year ALL Chinese media could not overplay it enough bc they tried to get everyone to cancel their celebration activities which trust me is harder than it looks Im still amazed they can convince old people stubborn people conservative people to cancel Chinese New Year This is phenomenal CNY 2020 will be remembered by generations of Chinese people as that year when it was canceled|1 Welder in a fabrication shop here we already have 1 confirmed case and at least 2 more going for testing that everyone also believes has it There are 500 employees here The owner is still walking through greeting everyone and is waiting to see what happensFuck|1 Walmart in my town has zero food left Shelves are completely empty|0 This is both brilliant and very simple to use My deepest thanks for putting this together|1 You can still use your familys private jet even if it doesnt have an isolated room Just be sure to wear a mask for the sake of the butlers and pilot and cover their medical care if needed People on this subreddit really need a dose of realitythings are not so bad|1 My mom keeps telling me how Italy is only bad because they are dirty and it is a third world country|0 To be fair the owners are losing significantly more money than the players|0 Spanish fluThe 1918 influenza pandemic January 1918 December 1920 colloquially known as the Spanish flu was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus with the second being the swine flu in 2009 It infected 500 million people around the world or about 27 of the then world population of between 18 and 19 billion including people on isolated Pacific islands and in the Arctic The death toll is estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million to 50 million and possibly as high as 100 million making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemics geographic originInfectious diseases already limited life expectancy in the early 20th century but life expectancy in the United States dropped by about 12 years in the first year of the pandemic PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 So you wont have containment of individual cases you will have to freeze whole big clusters|1 No it doesnt Vaccination rates dont change R0|0 Exponential growth is studied at GCSE level biology exams taken aged 15 to 16 depending on your birthday|1 You gotta admit Those people down there go through some shit Those are some tough tough people|0 Id like to know this as well I had the swine flu in 2009 and wasnt even told to self quarantine and I certainly dont remember huge companies and universities shutting down let alone cities Dont panic is what they keep telling us they have to be hiding something right Makes zero sense|1 Wtf Why How is it fair that they get paid and not have to do anything s|0 In those cases was an overreaction of the immune system more of a health risk then the reintroduction of the virus itself|0 Yes but not nearly enough if we dont lockdown soon|1 Thank you Also TIL that LiveJournal still exists and is operated out of Russia now|1 To who Trump doesnt value us beyond our revenue in taxes and big corporations dont value us beyond what we can shill our for treatment|0 There is rumors this escaped from a lab in China Why would Chinese invent a biological weapon that targets they own They wouldnt Its quite possible based off Italy and Iran experiences that this virus was designed to be very lethal against Caucasians It still strikes some Asians but kills whites a lot more Black people altogether seem unaffected for the most part|0 Singapore Malaysia Thailand etc all dont have sustained community spread and new cases are imported from infected areas|0 The anti trump crowd should just stay neutral on other subs but they cant help themselves When you notice them you know the inevitable drop in quality is incoming|0 Natural selection|1 Dont go hoarding toilet rollsPlease stick to the 6 packs 1 or 2 like youre used to|1 Same here My life was starting to get good and I was making good strides and its frustrating that this virus will probably take it all away and some of my loved ones too|1 I assume that in a lot of states open containers of alcohol use to be allowed provided the driver was not drinking That was until people figured it out then they outlawed it completely That was the case with NC I just moved from TX and there was a drive through liquor store right up the street|1 Oh Educate me How would that work exactly Why do we have borders at all then Seems like if closing the borders isnt a big deal we should just always close the borders|1 And thats why its even more important for others of us to prepare That way the government wont have as many that need assistance|1 If Lysol suddenly changed the mrsp of wipes to 20 a pack then yeah they have a problemWhy would Lysol do that though The s in MSRP stands for suggested Its not the price Lysol sells them at its the price Lysol recommends they be sold at And recommending they be sold higher especially during a crisis just hurts Lysol|0 I dont know anything about Publishers Clearing House Ive seen the name but whats bad about it|0 Welcome to 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subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Tory faggots deleted it lmao|0 Just a misunderstanding I was looking at the worldwide numbers each day|0 Lets have a science debateAnyway living or dead it definitely kills|0 Im from Eastern Europe no need to tell me that and also never said that it wasnt so What youre saying a different thing and of course youre right Its both off topic and moving the goalposts|0 Please isolate yourself for 2 weeks|1 Thanks for the reply Good info to have|1 Do you have a source for the 9 days max I have seen sources placing similar coronavirus strains at 30 days at 20c temps|0 aye smh I simply dont understand what fakers have to gain from doing this type of crap|0 The person in the post has been assessed by their GP you are not one and found to be having LRTI Not worried Not panicking Not having a cold Start being respectful of professionalism of doctors rather than your own imagination and denial|1 I cant go there anymore They stopped making my favorite item the Meximelt Sad|0 Definitely a gamble Although I do keep thinking what might happen in Italy in 2 months time the population and still be in quarantine and cases will still most likely exist There will be no natural immunity in the populace at all|1 If the IOC wants to postpone Japan has no choice but to agree|1 The doc wouldve been able to see if you had pneumonia with the chest Xray so theres some good news with that What was your temperature at the hospital Are you noticing excessive dry coughingHow much anxiety have you had over the virus|1 I wish I couldbut have to clue how I am not the only one though There are more healthcare workers experience the same thing|1 Like I said almost everyone Itll be a long freaking time before we get to that level In the meantime at least 1 of those 60 will die And Im being very conservative with that 1 figure|0 I hope that your grandma stays safe And you too|1 Because shes smart I dont know a good upbringing high IQ experience|1 I honestly hope that shelters group homes and other care giving facilities have been able to get what they need|1 Yea my work place said we wont work from home until either a coworker is confirmed to have it or the government mandates itWith a company call telling us this is a prime market and we have an opportunity We dont know what that even means|1 Are we going to ignore how the Chinese are treating their own For example what people are doing when they find people in their area who they know are from Hubei|0 The nobel prize for stupidity is thankless but like an old friend told me Its a tough job but somebodys gotta do it|1 This would be considered cool weather here in Indias capital|1 I just had bloodwork come back that indicated I might have an immunodeficiency plus Ive been to the cardiologist a few times because something isnt quite right there Plus I have exercise induced asthma and have been battling depression for the last several months so my physical fitness is at rock bottom Im in my 30s and everyone keeps saying its just the old and the underlying conditions that will die and Im like BUT THAT IS ME|0 Sad but true|1 Thats better than us Americans we cant even speak English|1 what if at that time he wasnt severe enough to test so the hospital won some time to function and as time went on his symptoms progressed|1 Viruses are already not technically alive|0 UK fortunately didnt become a hyperepidemic Its been drip feedNo tests no cases right|0 Little pieces of shit What|0 They wont enforce it until they have to because if its not enforced than business arent responsible for paying employees Every decision made up to this point has been with an economic focus not a health focus|0 Tell your bank Im getting a better rate at another bank and they will be happy to have a conversation with you to renegotiate You dont even have to go to the branch just call them|1 Does he have difficulty breathing now like asthma but never experienced that beforeI cant walk up a flight of stairs without stopping for breath and am easily fatigued Im 36 and formerly an avid hiker Now I just got for walks because I cant breathe right 4 months later|1 Yup And 300 in PayperView credit|1 wornwarn is the verb to give a warning|0 Best I can do is Joe B|1 not overweight no diabetes or high blood pressureOhhhhh my So this just happens in healthy pregnancies Thanks for returning with details Ill read up on this one|1 A lot of people should lose their medical licenses for this|0 MAJOR BREAKING NEWS NPR Source Says Trump Blocked Coronavirus Testing in January to Aid His Reelection Chances By Keeping US Infection Figures LowhttpstwittercomSethAbramsonstatus1238216578161926145|0 Thats very kind of him I pray that everything turns out well for humanity|1 Well lets be real If he sat there in that Cambodian hotel he would have caught it for sure|1 people broke into a lidl to steal bread as they still had some while it was closed due to the snowUntrue Scumbags did this because theyre scumbags People involved in this are linked with the drogheda drugs fued|0 Seems really dumb to ignore initial vectorsCarriers with mild symptoms are infective even asymptomatic His home isolation doesnt guarantee anything he might go on walk THERE IS NO STRICT WATCH ON ITHe is currently in isolation at home He has had a small number of family contacts early vectors|0 Let me help you and use a more simple concept 30 day lock down but you buy a year worth of toilet paper Yes very smart thats the first thing you should worry about Oh and we have a bidet Dirty asses are those who wipe with just toilet paper Put some peanut butter on your finger and see how well paper gets it fully off Go back to your hoarding of toilet paper now|1 My daughters best friends parents are going on a cruise this weekI dont want to think about what they might bring home and share with their kids who will then share with mine and the rest of the school|1 With insurance this is still the protocol unless you experience severe respiratory symptoms there is nothing they can do for you|0 You would be fine shaking hands with someone with the virus as long as you wash your hands which Im sure he did much like how doctors wash their hands after every patient|1 No problem wish I could have been more helpful|1 Key factor missing in your breakdown is the total number of cases As these would have been among active healthy adults who may have brushed off as a mild flu or other slight malady and ignoredI sometimes wonder why I bother writing comments longer than three lines The above is exactly what I wrote in my comment just a bit below|0 Education is a provincially run department and they have close communication with public health in their areas Schools will be closed the moment it threatens our kids with exposure|0 Do people not develop immunity if theyre exposed then recover Or is the virus mutating rapidly|0 see that is kinda silly but not outside the realm of possibility like sasquatch|1 Thats what u think until he realizes hes the last hope for humanity against an army of aliens who implanted the virus to take over|1 We might be worse than Iran if they keep going to hide this outbreakBonus Its one of the quarantine zone in Turkey at this momenthttpstwittercomkrtkulturtvstatus1234228753716449282httpstwittercomkrtkulturtvstatus1234228753716449282|0 Actually its thirdCCPs authoritarian buddies Russia and N Korea closed their border firstDictators know dictators the best they didnt believe in CCPs lie in the first place|1 I got some extra food rice etc in case everything went to hell in a handbasket and shelves began to empty But if things go pretty much normally anyone who gets quarantined will be able to do things like use that WalMart delivery option Amazon takeaway restaurants and Im sure theres more I never use that stuff currently but I know it exists That gave me a lot of assurance that I would have the necessities and even luxuries through this even if my household catches this Im just hoping theres a way the delivery person does not have to interact with you in any way and can leave it outsideI think if you need to get hospital treatment youd call 911 and explain the situation and theyd probably use protective gear to help transport you But they also may have special plans in place for anyone who gets tested positive for this Im sure they talk to you and give you a lot of special instructions|1 Close the schools dipshit De Blasio|0 A Great Depression The best depression A depression like youve never seen before|0 Earlier Maralagovirus was trending on Twitter lol|1 The SP is down 27 Dow Jones is down 28 the Oslo exchange is down more than 30 who will they sell to when nobody is buying How could they even sell without the stock market tanking even further The fact that its diverse is irrelevant when even the strongest markets at the moment are down almost 30 and the worst ones almost 50 they have lost a shitload of their wealth and cant liquify a whole lot when nobody is buying|0 I honestly didnt even think about them Hopefully I wont need them though|1 No I watched the video you linked Im just asking for the source|0 Yes Then you wouldnt have looked so stupidBut judging be your use of this quote as some kind of attempted zingerpro tip its not just goes to show that you might not be that smart eitherBut heyIm just assuming|1 Wow|1 Yeah they need to cut that out But thats different than the enjoyment of the cruise itself|1 Good on you Controlling your a1c certainly is not an easy thing to do|1 i mean how do you flatten the curve if you dont lock SOMETHING down if you mean lockdown as a TOTAL lockdown sure but theres things you can do between total lockdown and total whogivesadamn social distancing quarantining smart working and education ensure safe working conditions when working from home is impossible teach people to wear masks and be a lot more hygienic ramp up the production of said masks and those sort of apparatusfurthermore these measures probably wont buy enough time for a vaccine youre right itll take a year at least but for treatments i think its a different story so in conclusion i was pretty worried about uk as boris words seemed to me on the surface borderline nazi however these few post have been helpful in explaining what they intend to do and that puts me a little more at ease|1 People in this sub knew a month ago or more something was likely to happen Lots of people have been prepping for this for more than five weeks Issue is few in the government was willing to believe it or care|1 bizarre situation Wolves being forced to play the same teamitsjustliketheflu|0 There are likely thousands of cases present before they see and confirm a case Lots has been written today on that especially since were not testing here With a potential two week incubation we know plenty of people all over are carrying this Im glad youre home now Tell everyone you saw in person that you know|1 Lmao youre literally all over this thread acting holier than thou when in reality you dont know shit Go back to posting on rkpics|1 There you go It may be true Certainly finding confirmation free of ccp influence is key As far as theory that is standard practice in ccpland Think of all those public projectsall those worldleading environmental stuff those ghost cities the 100 mile highways of 8 lanes of concrete The strongest government and military people are the contractors Let that sink in For many reasons corrupt education collectivism is wonderful being the biggest the Western recent generations know absolutely NOTHING about the operational fundamentals of ccp or authoritarians in general|1 I stocked up on everything but masks Wish I had bought more before they were all gone I didnt really see the use for them isolation was and still is going to be my strategy but now wishing I had more in case anyone in my household needs to go anywhere high risk|0 No not at all I pay 300 a month for health insurance and wouldnt go to the hospital unless I was about to die Last time I went I still got a bill for my deductable of 10000 This was for a few hours in the emergency room So people who are worse off will probably go to their service jobs sick and infect everyone and everything|0 Yet took me a minute to follow someone on my post What theyre putting is basically saying Corona virus prep is like pandemic prep|1 I disagree The poster isnt stoking fear or giving unsourced speculation they are giving their perspective I do think the message they are giving has a place here It is up the community to upvote or downvote it but I dont think its fair to remove it|1 While this has good intentions it is also scary to me There is a lot of responsibility and ethical issues tied to doing something like this Id definitely be wearycautious to contribute myself|1 Oh USA how you keep surprising us for all the wrong reasons|0 Its not a bailout See more here httpstheweekcomarticles901853feds15trillioninterventionexplained|1 Youre spreading misinformation The other 98 have not all recovered so they cant be calculated You dont know whats going to happen to them This is not how this works|0 Its a beautiful tone Some people say the best tone|1 No they dont test people That is why their numbers are low like USA|0 Soon it will beHows your day Mr PresidentThats classified Who leaked it Bag him|0 I am so confused I live in Washington State aka WA Are you referring to something about malls here I just looked and cannot find anything on the news Since we are the place in the US with the most cases and deaths as well as been dealing with this the longest it absolutely makes sense we would at this point shut down malls but I dont see anything Source please|1 Hey man its crossed my mind here too and I havent because I dont want to deal with stuff like that but its getting to the point where I just dont give a shit anymoreKarma is slowly coming their way They can see why youre wearing it if they stopped looking at you and started to look at reality|1 Dont place your bets on vaccine I doubt it will happen Never happened for SARS or MERS|0 And universities need to shut down BEFORE a student or faculty test positive By that time they have been spreading for 2 weeks|1 Spanish flu killed more people than world war one|0 I havent seen any total numbers on test kits available A few states have mentioned how many they haveThere are some numbers are tests performed although apparently some states are only reporting positive test results not total conductedYahoo News Article httpsnewsyahoocomcdctestedonly77peoplethisweekcoronavirustestingslowaroundthenation153646616html March 12 2020 1036 AM CDTAs of Tuesday 7617 people have been tested in state laboratories according to the COVID Tracking Projecthttpscovidtrackingcom and 1784 were tested by the CDC|1 Look at all those brilliant people without masks rubbing up against each other Yeah best to avoid the rush even better to go in a few days|1 Misinformation In this subreddit Shocking|0 Well no shit Tell us something we dont already know|0 Add that to the pile of proof god doesnt exist|1 Loss of freedom is a greater threat than the latest media driven overblown threat West Nile bird flu swine flu Sars Mars Ebola Sika etc|0 Millenials are the worst and I am one Generation entitlement|0 I am in no position to evaluate the science of the paper But it should be noted that Los Alamos lab funded the paper Los Alamos is where they invented the nuclear bomb Their credentials as competent scientists are legit|0 05 is the rate with enough medical care When medical system crashed like Wuhan in Jan the rate can be above 7 80 can recover themselves but the rest 20 would have severe symptoms and irreversible lung damage without enough medical aid More than 13 of these poor people would dieWith 60 infection Germans medical system would absolutely collapse and according to my induction more than 3 million people would dieTAKE EVERY POSSIBLE ACTION IMMEDIATELY TO STOP THE SPREADING|0 I created one for Las Vegas httpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusLasVegashttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusLasVegas|1 Both of my parents are in limbo as they run their own independent businesses My brother and I are out of work too Cant imagine many families will do too well after even a weeks worth of this let alone months|1 Well go find out and get back to us|1 Maybe this will be the one time a tropical climate is an advantage supposedly this virus prefers cold and dry For the sake of millions of people in the global South I hope this is true|1 Asian nations tend to be more topdown centralized governments with more authority Theyre substantially faster and more efficient but are an incredibly dangerous vector for maliciousness and incompetence Singapore for example has an incredibly competent and for the most part benevolent central government and can therefore do things much faster than anything could ever be done in the west China has a pretty competent although debatably malicious central government Can still do things faster than anything could ever be done in the west but the trade we make in the west is precisely to hedge powers against our central authorities so as to limit their capability for malice In other words Chinas government is much more dangerous than the governments in the west but it is also much more powerfulcompetent|1 I get a feeling this will change after this outbreak Our President has been trying to get us to lay off being dependent on China for vital aspects of our economy and to bring things back home I really hope lessons were learned from this and its accelerated some companies plans to move things out of China|1 this means choose wisely during elections |1 Thanks friendo|1 Personally Im more worried about passing it on undiagnosed than coming down with it myself I work with the elderly my parents are 70s Everyone has cause for worry coz everyone loves someone whos vulnerable|0 For sure|1 They might soon go bankrupt if things keep up as they are now|0 After scrolling past this same copypasted comment for what has now been the THIRD time this post Ive decided to support your cause The following suggestions listed below are what YOU NEED to consider when revisiting your PSA use more bullet points use more CAPITAL LETTERS use more bold font dont use unbolded font avoid the use of UNBOLDED LOWERCASE CHARACTERS AND LASTLY USE MORE BULLET POINTS|1 Interesting okay|1 Not if those 250000 are a drain on resources and dont pay tax The Uk Government probably|1 Ha thats why no one is getting tested|1 Dude I hate to laugh at your agony but I cant stop wheezinglaughing at tour instastory particularly when you went to check the mail for your results THAT is a HUGE fail on the US medical system as a whole Here we have this deadly virus worth shutting the nation down and killing the market over and theyre going to MAIL test results WTH Anywho Ill be sending good vibes you feel better soon and dont go insane while in isolation|0 Heres the problem thoughFuck you|0 Round 6 Southern Hemispheresince they are going to fallwinter very good season in terms of virusRound 7 virus back to Northern hemisphere again from the south because of the coming fall Kinda birds migration Nightmare|1 Some people dont really have a choice unfortunately Being unemployed and a bit of a hermit to begin with I do have a choice most of the time however tomorrow I MUST go to see my doctor at the local VA hospital It takes too damn long to get an appointment to begin with I cant afford to skip it|0 People in this picture are a live cluster bomb|0 Bro where do you get this info Can you point me to a source Thank you|1 What are you thoughts on how the United Kingdom is doing It seems like there not having any issues at current and cases seem low at current Do you expect this to rise to Italys level|1 Good to know time to get ready|1 Yeah She was Seventeen Ish We never found out why there was a rumor she was bisexual and afraid to come out Sounds so bizarre now but things were different then almost thirty years ago Who knows what she was thinking It was a shotgun and my friend found her first How old is an eighth grader thirteen Thats how old he wasSuicide not even once Its never just you its Everyone around you that it hurts and everyone around them|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 Gotcha I was mostly goofin around but these stories about mask shaming are strange Its a head scratcher that anyone gives a shit what anyone else is doing I think the psychology of the mask in the shamers brain is about other things perceived aloofness from the wearer Who knows So much ignorance is just fear at the root of itAnyway stay safe stay relaxed and stay indifferent|0 I think people feel helpless about their ability to do anything concrete about the situation I am not including things like isolation washing hands etc If they can get in their can and go and out stock up on TP it makes them feel they have some physical control over the predicament This is even though TP does not appear to be critical in the maintenance of the virus In other words I dont have a fucking clue|0 Your symptoms sound like the regular fluThis coronavirus affects the lower respiratory system stuffy nose and sore throat due to drainage should be seen as a good signE No snot or loogie worry|0 Dont forget to pray|0 top karen move lmao|1 Fair enough I misread it and didnt know enough info Ill cop that Hope it all works out Peace man|1 The epidemicstricken Hubei is not included in the international expert teams destinations which according to experts is because the province is at a vital time combating the epidemic and cannot spare time and people to receive the expertsUh huh yeah sure Thats it|1 earlier study from March 4 x200B Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as available weapons to fight COVID19httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0924857920300820httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0924857920300820|0 Agreed|1 Lmao please Italians got that bidet life going|1 Man i wish i found this sub earlier|1 Yep Sad that the government didnt do more earlier|0 The head of WHO is a communist like the Chinese Government They are dictatorial|1 Well see|1 My colleague just told me this this morning This woman is a friend of a friends of hers small world|1 Yes it was Rudy GoberthttpsmobiletwittercomNBC10Samstatus1238566184997576704|1 Sorry man Dubious data makes for dubious analysis|0 Gaga Chat is best Russian newsThis where I learn Putin banned coronavirus Check Mate|1 Didnt he start getting sick very early on before the hospitals got overwhelmed with patients From what Ive heard he like most critical patients was actually doing better and recovering even talking about helping his fellow doctors once he got better and then WHAM the virus hit him very hard|1 Those fuckers Ive seen a few of those I dont know if youve seen the specific ones but as far as the ones spitting in elevators the famous ones w the lady in pink and the one w the old bold man both have been arrested I dont event want to think what happened to them Many buildings here including my own have since started laying down a protective film over the buttons and changing it a few times a day|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Well according to my friend at the plant one cup of vodka every 4 hours if your exposed|1 Nice picture of young people|1 Im highly skeptical of those numbers|0 Mama mia|0 No This virus novel No one has even partial immunity We will all get this If not this year then the next Our best bet is to use best practices and distancing If we can spread out our infections as much as possible we will not overburden our local hospitals|1 Im not sure why everyone is freaking out This is SARS II correct I had SARS and it was very unimpressive for being the global disaster it was made out to be at that time It wasnt fun and definitely hung around longer than the flu but aside from the rhinovirustype cough and unpleasant joint pain that comes with most viruses it seemed very mild compared to other bugs Ive hadI did worry about the increased risk of it fucking with my DNA or giving me an increasedrisk of getting a specific cancer like Im sure most novel viruses may wind up doing but illness itself was pretty tame|0 there are too many chineses on reddit who click thumb downs on every posts and comments that are against china because they are so proud of their country whenever I see posts or comments like that they always have negative score there are just too many Chinese everywhere go back to your Baidu or whatever and stop dominating reddit Lol|1 Its not impossible It is just really difficult|0 Cook that bad boi up|0 Yeah there are lot of people that spam with the same information all the time in response to every question and comment I dont think it helps because people start to be fed up with it and dont believe those informations anymore Biggest topics are those 14 days of incubation and that they are building new hospitals and that it means its super bad People suddenly forgot about all other sick people that still need to be in hospital and their place cannot be taken for infected with this virus Also not whole hospitals are dedicated to virological issues Thats why having new completely dedicated for it hospitals is good ideaIts still quite bad situation and Im also little scared but all this flood of news reposts and spam is not helping Some people seem to thrive during this situation|0 The only reason this somewhat makes sense is that these players travelled a lot more than the average person and came into contact with many many people from all over the country Theres a kid in Rhode Island who tested positive after getting an autograph from Gobert Gobert also went to the only casino in the Boston area and a major club and he tested positive in OK after transmitting it to people in Boston Given how many people they came into contact with it makes sense to prioritize them However they were obviously prioritized because if their fame and wealth not because of the high umber of people they exposed and thats what makes this absurd|1 Im certain your state Office of Emergency Services has a supply of them Your hospital should call them and make a request That is literally what they are for Good luck and stay safe|1 Kitchen roll will have to do The squares are a bit big but they work fine once chopped into quarters Fun sunday afternoon activity for all the family that|1 Many countries probably realize theyre next and are holding off unfortunately|0 Why are people so obsessed with getting the test thoughIf you think you might have it then self isolateIf you think you could have it self isolateIf you think you could catch it self isolateIf you test negative today and go out you then need to have the test againWhats the point|0 Glad to hear it Fingers crossed for you all in Shanghai|1 Definitely more than 1K that we have today|1 Right I forget the rest of the country didnt get that WFH experiment I see people worrying about VPN capacity and Im just like wellwe already did this last year nbdThanks for the fire drill climate change|0 Great Now we have to read the books|1 Thank you for your hard work putting this together for everyone I was wondering if putting in comprehensive breakdowns of symptoms is possible Such as very early signs mild case symptoms and severe We know fever cough sob are the full blown stage but what of warning signs etc One other aspect I was thinking of is showing what countries are testing vigilantly and those who arent like us If there is a way to compare a high testing country like Koreas stats vs low testing stats like us so far|0 It varies httpssmithalan92githubiocoronaviruscfrchartsand httpsnucleuswealthcomarticlesupdatedcoronavirusstatisticscasesdeathsmortalityrate I am guessing 3 for any outbreak in the thousands you choose your own number The Chinese seem to be doing a pretty good job at least as good as anyone else|1 Im not at all convinced in a re infection rate But at the same time it should be acknowledged we dont know if it would mutate enough only that it is unlikely|0 Randomly stopped in Austintown Ohio None available shelves of wipes cleared out|0 And a person going to an event doesnt Fighters also interact with more people after events Why even have it when you can spare any infections You are all fucking dumb|0 This is interesting I noticed a tremendous amount of traffic on the highway today in Athens County Ohiomostly people in pick ups trucks from up north|1 The fuckedup part is that Republicans are not really even antigovernment They are antiworking class They are more than willing to borrow money for wealthy tax give away programs corporate welfare trillion dollar military budgets and the police state They love the shit out of big fascist government programs and international corporate hegemony funded with tax dollars and debtBut spending a goddamn dime on the population much less poor people is just a socialist deep state plot to kill baby Jesus|0 Some lawyer will get infected on a train and sue them by proving that every train ride is an event|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Its just a month late lol|1 My husband and I spent 4 hours in the international terminal at the Philadelphia airport Among some very sick coughing delirious people This was the first week in January 3 days later he was deathly Ill racking coughing wheezing HorribleJust like the people in the terminal We had heard of the Wuhan virus when we were in Ireland It was scary for usThen we found out that Philadelphia was a Wuhan flight hub and this was right before the flight bans and people were getting out of China My husband was extremely Ill for 3 weeks they wouldnt test him as we had not been to China MAGAIgnorance is bliss Until huge numbers die This is something that our liar in chief cannot overcome with his lies Deaths|0 In China the 80 mild simply meant you arent on the verge of dying Serious was you needed a ventilator to breath and critical was something like multiple organ failure Its worth noting that that in that data over 90 had pneumonia already|0 Congratulations your expertly skilled comment just squarely utilized every letter of the alphabet Wow|1 I seriously collect bottle capsIts the currency of the future|0 Dying the American dream huh|1 Can someone explain what a super spreader is Is it someone that by random chance spreads his disease to more people or is it something special about these spreaders which make them predisposed to spread it to more people|1 I had a 4 day flu with a 4 week cough that initially wasnt productive and turned productive later Negative flu and strep tests done just before Thanksgiving diagnosed with walking pneumonia by my pcp Was giving cordicos and antibiotics but they didnt seem to help My chest still hurts to this day and my endurance while playing basketball took a severe hit after I recovered Im not saying that I am 100 committed to the fact that it could have been here in those months shit maybe even originated in the states but its surely not a coincidence Having gone through that is what initially drew me to the outbreak in China and got me paying very close attention to it due to the high concentration of Chinese here in the SF bay area|0 This is like one of those commercials skits at the beginning of SNL Its so ludicrous it cant be real My God even if it isnt Covid19 stop sharing a water bottle with your child when you could be sick|0 Thats Perfect 10010|1 Yea I dont want to put on my tin foil hat but I read a comment somewhere on reddit that said that one of the cities that had recently gone into quarantine maybe Italy that just a few days prior their citizens were under the belief that that couldnt happen to them Kind of like us in America So so many citizens just are not prepared It makes me honestly consider going out and preparing to have some sort of foodwatermedicine supplies I honestly dont know if this should be scaring me or what|1 No human rights violations|0 I dont really understand how things can possibly be apolitical during a pandemic Things like how to deal with pandemicsepidemics and natural disasters is one of the reasons we even have politics as a species|1 Still died by not taking health science carefully|0 Fuck sounds a RussianChinese leader we all know|0 This is a decision by the provider treating the patient Not the CDCUSThe CDC has a flowchart for ordering tests for COVID19 based on exposure and symptom criteria This has to be approved by the state health department who would then arrange for collecting the specimens to send to CDC If your friend wasnt tested its because their doctor decided not to Blame the doctor not the CDCEdit ALSO Were still in the middle of flu season So maybe your friend had the flu Have you considered that Lots of things cause fever and pneumonia Edit again So the provider passed the buck on who would be ordering testing She could have easily ordered testing without sending your friend to the ER Thats not an excuse This still isnt a conspiracy|1 I remember when Wuhan residents did something similar over wechat Then a bunch of HK rioter bots on twitter pushed it out of context and said stupid shit like Chinas trying to get sympathies or chinas trying to steal HKs slogan jiayou or add oilFuck everyone that shat on Wuhans show of solidarity and are now giving Italy encouragement The american propaganda is so strong|1 Dont say that god damnit|0 Good work Please as other people have pointed out Im not an expert and I may have silly ideas take extra caution when examining solutions Work together with your people and stay safe|1 Ill ask next time I see him H1N1 was happening when I was in college but I barely remember hearing about it oddly enough I DID go on a trip to Japan for a summer session at the time and remember them scanning people at Narita airport when we got off the plane|0 Thank you for posting this Best wishes for you your family and the people of Iran|1 Besides the obvious cost cost cost the whole draw blood from 3700 people on a ship problem more people moving and meeting essentially voiding any quarantine in placeyou might also struggle with false positives|0 Sounds good but my work wont let us work from home|1 You dont have to touch her to watch her piss on a bed|0 The link is in my post or here httpswwwmorgenpostdepolitikinlandarticle228578473VirologeCoronaviruswird70ProzentderDeutschentreffenhtmlhttpswwwmorgenpostdepolitikinlandarticle228578473VirologeCoronaviruswird70ProzentderDeutschentreffenhtml but unfortunately there seems to be a paywall now which wasnt there yesterday|0 I dont just mean the quarantine it self but we should collectively feel the costs Western nations need to setup legalfinancial protections and Im sure some do|1 Yeah shoot the virus|0 The entire Republican membership of Congress celebrated their success at possibly mortally wounding the ACA Smiling and congratulating each other The entire Republican membership of Congress busted their asses to give more money to the 01 rather than say improve American healthcare water air And theyre STILL doing itYes but reported for the rest dude youre not helping|1 Its weird because as Americans we always feel that wont happen here|0 Whats with the down votes That is pretty funny|1 Thank you and also for answering No in Romania But people are already panicky and there are mistakes being made at the borders and more I expect it will only be a matter of time before we are also required to stay home indefinitely|0 I posted on a few reddit communities a UK petition for more action and a lockdown strategy and it got downvoted I got insulted and eventually realised that some people here in the UK are simply living in a different planet and in their own ignorance|0 Old people can also be entitled forgot all the boomer memes|1 Yes I went to hospital with a mask on and it was like I came with the plague in their minds although I got the fastest NHS service ever I was just trying to protect myself lol|1 I dont understand why people are praising him He was asked his thoughts on how the situation with the corona virus would affect his teamHe is a manager and is in charge of running this team successfully to make money He purposely twisted and dodged the question Obviously answer games may be cancelled therefore they wont play sport and make money Hes not going to say that on tv The reporter wasnt stupid enough to ask him what was the corona virus|1 Like Trudeau|1 Right cause people living in their cars are in such a great position to stock up on a moments notice|1 This is Chinas only chance to say We have it under control while the rest of the World is still struggling to even grasp the severity and the reality that this Virus is in their community already|0 The design and engineering of these facilities must be really interesting I wonder who does it|1 Help Is also a lighthearted say of saying SHIT It wasnt God help us all It was Help|0 Masks have been gone for weeks I think Hand sanitizer was the first to go here in northern Ohio Then wipes and disinfectants And now the paper towels and toilet paper are being wiped out from the looks of it|1 Any urinary changes pain tenderness color of urine different change in output etc Sadly sometimes only a blood test will tell for sure But its something to keep an eye on and to ask your doctor to check if you have any suspicions|0 Shit was it last week or the week before where he was telling people it was safe to continue going to work even if youre sick lmao Deaths will be on his leadership or lack of and everyone around who enabled him|0 Managing panic|0 Good on them for helping people stay healthy in the process of taking over thoughApplause|1 Ok coomer|1 Not everything is racism The reality is for two months all we heard was China and Coronavirus That kind of association is hard to shake even for well intentioned people|1 Thats fine and if only the comment had said someone would cry racism even though they were all Chinese but instead it said even though theyre all Asian Which is bad enough implying its nonsensical to think Asians can be racist against other Asians and thats still the charitable explanation rather than taking it as meaning AsianChinese|0 And only if youve been approved by your insurer Doesnt matter what your doctor saysYour doctor has to call them and argue with them if you want it overturnedFucking hate healthcare in this country|0 Good luck I hope that everyone taking precautions makes it through|1 I challage you to come over and share the truth with us|1 Its a horrible thing to say I know but it is probably a good thing there being less elderly politicians very few of them seem to care about people outside their age class group|1 I think you are missing the time between testing positive and having first symptoms and developing pneumonia in China time was sometimes 60 DAYS between the two I doubt most cases in Germany had this time yet but maybe also there is a different population getting infected eg younger people Numbers in Italy seem to be more consistent with China numbers in Iran seem to be worse so we should think about differences between all of these countries but it might be just variance as well|0 Theyre reciting a counterpoint to hanlons razor If its statistically highly likely that its malice assume its maliceThen again Im not sure how youd do the statistics in this case|0 I dont like this household idea Individuals need cash I live in a house with 8 other people Are we going to have to split that 8 fucking ways|0 I wonder what they do in Cuba Im always amazed at how ingenious they are at engineering modern tech with 20th century engineering|1 Sounds just like script out of plaque inc|1 This guy will have blood on his handsInstead of taking real actions to slow this down he tries to downplay it for as long as possible Its a worse response than Italys and history will not be kind|0 There can be no outbreak if there is no people think emoji|0 Take the stairs damnit|0 It was but only some days until some huge critisism|1 Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome Corona virus 2 which cause the disease Covid19A novel virus that humans currently have no immunity to Can be treated with antiviral medication to help the patient recover but if left uncheck can lead to a painful death in a matter of days Heres the best part when a medical system is overrun you cant get necessary medical attention to treat pneumonia or ARDS or organ failure When your lungs your blood are filling up with bacteria and your blood oxygen level is low your organs will fail but luckily not everyone will become a severe case maybe only 20 and out of that figure 214 of them will perish Now if a medical system is overrun these numbers can be much higher so yeah it is a different strain of the flu but this one is the one that can fucking ruin your life as you could end up going to 5 or more funerals in 2021|0 Its not a laughing emoji Its a grimace representing receiving negative news Im ethnically chinese btw|0 I have been buying stuff slowly over the last month so never had that look at that weird person buying so many nonperishables until this morning I decided to do one last shop to stretch out supplies I have 8 people who depend on me my nuclear family elderly mom sister who will show up when shit hits fan and so my 30 day stockpile needs to be pretty big Definitely got weird looks this morning|1 I live in the dormitory with probably 300 others yes I am very horribly concerned I tried to get masks basically everywhere I can search of but seriously theres nothing left I got Purell sanitzer and like 2 months of food already all I need is mask Seriously living in the dormitory like you can have the virus so easily|1 The Only Difference Between Martyrdom and Suicide Is Press Coverage|0 Do you intend to live like this for the next 18 months while waiting for a vaccination Genuinely curious|1 I imagine kissing 45s ass that hard makes you want to stop breathing|0 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 masks dont help now give us all your masks you filthy fucking peasants|0 Chloroquine and hydrochloroquine keep popping up in every country except the US as the most promising treatment aid I saw an HIV medication coupled with it in some but not always necessary and it costs 510 a bottle Why isnt the US using this|1 What you mean like melting and hanging over tree branches|1 source on that it doesnt sound crazy but theres lots of misinformation floating around|0 Ahh okay thanks for the clarification|1 Were at full economic capacity now and literally doing dick so Im sure things will improve once no one is showing up to work and supply lines are fucked by highway pirates|0 FFS I havent seen anyone write any of that You constructed a nice little strawman and now you want to flex after knocking it downThe thing most people on here are worried about is ironically enough the same thing the CDC is probably worried about what will people do when confronted with a virus that is for the time being unstoppableSomeone asked on another post what the absolute worst case scenario is To which I gave a lengthy reply the sum of which was ADE effects are real 10 dead 10 too unhealthy to work and fear causes trade to sieze up dropping GDP to 50 current levels I also said that in 50 years it will just look like a blip in the history books That was the absolute worst case everything goes wrong and nothing goes right scenario that almost certainly wont happen which I also clearly statedIn other words its not about EnD Of THe WoRLD but about being able to deal with short term disruptions If that is just too CrAZY for you Im sorry to hear that Its about making sure that we strike the right balance now to getting this under control and preventing panic Pushing things forward will only increase the likelihood of a panic later|0 I know the feeling I had the same thought a couple of days ago but after mulling it over with my husband we ultimately decided against it at this timeWe bought 16 individually sealed NIOSH approved N95 respirators in January We bought respirators goggles and gloves so to feel safe while making supply runs if and when things get more terrible in Germany We saw Wuhan unfold and we had a funny feeling it was coming to the west so we jumped on the PPE bandwagon We only bought 16 even though they were only 30 at the time because we didnt want to be too greedy We knew there was going to be a large demand and we didnt want to add to that but we had no idea the lack of supply was going to be as bad as it has turned outI believe we made the right choice buying when we did and the amount that we did In other words we do not feel guilty about our purchase They fit properly and we know how to don and doff correctly At this point we resent the heads of state that try to make us feel guilty about having respirators as no one should be made to feel horrible about their forethought and decision to remain healthy and protect their loved onesHowever we decided if we do become ill and need to go to the hospital we would donate our sealed respirators to the healthcare staff at that time or if we contract the virus and recover at home we would donate them to help others in need Either way the hospital is going to get our N95s if we have them to give but at this point we need them for our own personal safety security and health Ultimately we decided if we can remain healthy via public distancing hygiene and using PPE when we need it the less pressure we personally put on the system Most importantly we believe taking personal responsibility of ones health is just as considerate thoughtful and selfless as donating ones resources outrightI hope this helps with your decision Good luck|1 In my home town of about a thousand folks they have a dollar general the next closest store of any kind is 20 minutes away Thats why they are a huge competitor|1 As part of prevention can taking suggested amounts of Vitamin C Resveratrol and garlic extract supplements possibly stymie infection|1 Theres no small room tho its an army camp I mean not the best place to keep but we dont have resources in abundance The place I saw looked nice and clean Could be a propaganda but Have always seen government treating non residents better than residents This is my take but I could be wrong|1 Highly HIGHLY unlikely First if anybody has actually been reinfected it would be because lack of a functional remaining immune system in which case they have much MUCH bigger things to worry about There is no way this far into it anybody has lost immunity gained from fighting it off the first time Secondly These people are almost certainly talking about secondary bacterial infections As the virus isnt going to magically start attacking a completely different part of the body on a second run through|0 Its not about the CDCs funding Its the impact this is going to have on older people and families Look at Wuhan so many videos of outraged individuals against the CCP even though China tried its best to censor Twitter and other videos If this goes arse over tits people are going to be pointing the finger at someone Trump is the guy that keeps saying everything is under control You can lie about many things but when this hits peoples families this all under control shite is not going to sit well|1 I will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200328 032417 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003282003241720UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfan4lgremember1monthagowhenwewereallhatingfizdqrjcontext3CLICK THIS 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correct the problem efficiently If half your department is in quarantine and the other half are following antiinfection protocols things arent going to get done as quicklyAlso there are a lot of people who look for opportunities to sow chaos This is an unprecedented situation look for areas you can shore up if possible There might be no one coming to help at times In the best of times were a nation of school shootings and hate crimes throw those mentally unstable into a situation of actual challenge and life death danger we dont know how theyll respond|0 Yep Im saying that you can in fact get it twice|1 CCP has a real chance to use this to weed out some problems|0 Yes thank you The doctor did say lots of fluids and rest I have always personally been bad myself when I am sick but I am making sure with him he has water and gatorade|1 Mom pick me up im scared|0 Hope it turn out better than the one was at Cambodia|1 Fear mongering is the same bullshit that kept people with HIV and AIDS from actually getting the help they needed as they died WITHIN hospitals Doctors and nurses let patients waste away as they put red hazard bags over their doors Ignorance is fear mongering and there is no need for it|0 RESPECTSeriously if you have 1T in marketing value does it really cost you to show a little kindness|1 People dont get one year for violent crimes let alone selling at inflated price There wouldnt be enough land to build all the jails|0 Thanks for taking it seriously|1 Most travel insurance have a clause that they do not pay if you cancel because of epidemics|0 I am not an expert and have done no actual research but my interpretation from the news is that they have been testing any travellers the people they came into contact with Like at the prison where the guy who claimed to have been in contact with Edmontonians causes 158 prisoners to be quarantined|0 so happy for her and her family|1 Rooting for China This flu goes beyond politics I just want every country to succeed|1 Opium was a natural remedy|1 Im not fussy i will have both please|1 Cant my professors would fail me|0 I mean a lot of the unloading loading I do I haul food is pull into the facility hand the guard the paperwork dock bring paperwork inside sit in my truck for a few hours get a call go back in and grab paperwork and I want to add that inside for paperwork almost always has a safety glass window with a speaker and a slit for the paper get in truck leave|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages 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cache may be useful to some but I could do without the misinformation|1 A large majority of them do yes|1 Caveat is some of the drugs are already being used so the death rate already reflects that though treatment protocols will improve|0 Not being judgemental Just trying to put this into context If you smoked tobacco every day for 23 years youd be addicted to nicotine in a way that is not easy to cease It took me 3 years vaping to avoid the debilitating effects of nicotine withdrawal after 20 years of tobacco usage If you drank every day for 23 years youd likely be considered an alcoholic and you definitely would have alcohol addiction Its probably a good idea not to smoke pot everyday the damage to your lungs aside|0 ThatIf theres a link in the news report you want to post please link direct to the paper It means we dont have to make the judgement call on where the line is between reliable and unreliable media|1 Sorry if Wuhan you are screwed|0 This is so true I remember in recent years a local high school football player fell down and died during practice Turned out he had a heart condition that nobody knew about Shit happens |0 I was thinking about this article today At the time I thought that it was continues to be super reckless to publish History books will cite the misinformation the press published at the beginning like this article because it contributed to the rise of cases around the world when people think its just the flu bro|0 In Morgantown as well Just wait until these students come back from spring break|1 After the first plane hit the second tower wasnt evacuated People trying to leave were actually told to stay inside and when the evacuation order came there was problems with the communications inside the building and a lot of people didnt hear it Some of us were watching the news as the plane crashed into the second tower and I feel like Im watching that second plane again except Ive been watching it for two months People are being told not to panic no one has any idea whats going on due to lack of communication and the people who have been trying to raise the alarm have been told to just calm down and stop scaring others BUT WE CAN SEE THE PLANE COMING Its right fucking there Weve had so much time to prepare that theres no excuse for us to be this underprepared And yet here we are |1 Speaking as an American who happens to be white and is reading these comments I feel for you Shit must suck Hope you dont get treated too badly|0 Wow that map is awesome thanks for sharing Fact checking the crowdsourced contributions is definitely important|1 Not sure how to change my flair on mobile I click on change flair but it says none are available|0 How would that help since the virus cant yet be killedPeople rush to get disinfectants and stuff like that but thats gonna help so much until around 70 of a country is infected thats when your sanitation materials will be worthless theyll sell for a lot but will be uselessThats my point of view|0 His organization is truly impressive Theyve responded immediately to every major disaster weve experienced across the globe in the past few years Cooking quality meals for people in their greatest time of need is a very noble pursuit|1 I just realized how stupid and selfish some people really are They JUST BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE and throw their sympathy away without any hesitation|0 You are right but most of them are spoiled thots who just roll their eyes and dont think anything could happen to them More so by the fact that the one still wants to go to Italy for her spring break She doesnt understand what quarantine means Im just using it as an example My manager is a glorified trump supporter and has been following his lead on how to handle this Meaning not well at all I brought a jug of hand sanitizer and sat it down on server side a week ago Like 4 people out of the 30 over there have used it Its sad|1 Lol duh|1 These are based on when they were first tracked Ive made charts with the 120 day gap and it just doesnt get the information across as easily Thank you for your opinion I really appreciate it|1 Thats awful Good on you for reporting them Its scary how low people will stoop to make money feeding off of the fear of others Its almost as bad as those ironing used masks for resale My area has been quiet so far but there are reports of bullying and violence against Asians and maskwearers in nearby cities This greed and ignorance and hatred is a side of humanity I wasnt prepared to see |0 This virus has the chance to completely decimate North Korea With their lack of medical supplies testing equipment and healthcare system this virus could cause unbelievable amounts of death The only way the North will every get aid is to be friendly and diplomaticBecause threatening to nuke South Korea right now is a surefire way to not get aid|0 The person who got the most vote died I think people care|0 But Chin level stay plussed sounds wrong|0 And also more time to train workers and keep them as safe as possible More time understand what were dealing with More time to develop systems to get people basic necessities More time to minimize panic More time to get dumb people to wake the fuck upBasically were trying to buy time here I love it Faith in humanity feels like its being restored Sort of|1 None of the linked articles suggest that measurement of serum vitamin C correlates|1 Hes done a couple good things now that shouldve been done weeks ago Thats the problem here|1 damn was that in spain how come I havent heard that at all was that after testing positive or before|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public 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wants him to go back to VA because she wants to move her boyfriend that her parents dont like into her parents house Its a whole mess|0 If you average the daily growth factor for outside of China that worldometerinfo has you get a constant of about 14 but that includes 2 large 1 day spikes 1 day around 70 and 1 day around 45 I only started tracking on Friday but so far the WHO actual numbers have been close to the 116 constant|1 This explains the budget cuts Know what youre doing before you take my money|0 That data is accurate up until Feb 10 when the total number of confirmed cases in China was 44672 and there were 1023 deaths At the time the case mortality rate was 23 now it is 35 2788 78824 So the percentages overall went up we just dont know the details just yet|1 Testing is not an issue anymore in Italy and many other countriesThis is what Im starting to think The media loves the testing angle because rising numbers sell and its a simple idea to wrap ones head around The reality is a lot more complicated You could hand everyone in the country a test right now but it still wouldnt necessarily help because it only provides a snapshot in time and not necessarily an accurate oneBehavior changes transmission rates Bottom lineYou test if you can containIf its too late like here you only test hospitalized people to see if its a normal pneumonia or a COVID19 pneumonia and you put the person in a separate wardI was just saying this yesterday as well Testing is reserved for places you can reasonably hope to keep the numbers lowthe places where the outbreak is small enough that you can still trace individual cases back to the source or contact then potentially isolate close relations who may have been exposed We should test high risk groups in close living quarters and other locally strategic places alsoHeres where Ill add my speculation the first cases in most countries and states likely got there weeks before the official tally counted them By the time China even discovered it officially late Decmeber the horse was already out of the barn And by the time they locked it down Well who knows|1 Stay safe and dont get close to people The world survived 1918 and will survive this too|1 Nice|1 i wouldve thought you were baiting hard but i just realized you have your head so far up your own ass you probably cant see anything have a good day homie|0 Cuz ppl from fcking us and eu have been watching and reading lots of fake news Radioactive patients where did you get it|0 So are people in the area still going to go to work and stuff Even if the government didnt impose a mandatory lockdown Id shut myself in|1 Thank you The diamond princess and South Koreas numbers are both likely to finish above 1 The fact the numbers are so close is a bit odd because the cruise passengers skewed older and Korea younger x200BDiamond Princess 7 712 dead 098 Another 15 in seriouscritical condition 64 of cases resolved These are Japan figures only and are not including the Australian who died in his home country South Korea 75 8236 dead 091 with 138 of cases resolved The worldometer tracker says 59 in critical condition but I was unable to find the source for that numberHere are the direct sourcesKorea httpswwwcdcgokrboardboardesmida30402000000bid0030httpswwwcdcgokrboardboardesmida30402000000bid0030Japan httpswwwmhlwgojpstfnewpage10226htmlhttpswwwmhlwgojpstfnewpage10226html|0 Imagine when the Chinese Communist Party does more for Americans than your own government|1 Same here Easy to say if youre flush|1 Case in point what has Elon and his big brainbigger wallet done for the situation Jack shit|0 Never shopping at GameStop again Havent gone there in years Refuse to support this crap business Once years ago I had an interview with them and the guy offered me 5 hours a week LOLL Ridiculous|0 One man is going to decide what the country hears Ummm fuck that|0 Check your privilege pleaseExactly what i expect If you are posting on reddit about this you are not even dealing with such a situation Election power cutoff etc take time More time than keeping your kid at home for 2 weeks|1 Whats most frustrating here is that even if the immunocompromised are sick they still wont test Thats absolutely ridiculous to me|0 i dont hate it i feel disgusted or depressed depends on the weather|0 like that we apparently have tests for No new cases if we dont test right|1 For real though Im surprised people already dont snap when they cant afford medication as it sits Pissing the whole bottom 99 of the pyramid off buys the rich a guillotine|1 China is finally telling the truth Hope they go back and show the true number since the start|1 Not related to a case but have you guys thought about giving the BNO News website a darkmode option|1 Vaccine could take less if this virus is stable If it mutates quickly then theres no vaccine But so far at least symptoms wise it doesnt seem to be a major issue Sure it spreads fast but as long as we quarantine and proper care people will liveWhen you start hearing health young people dying thats when its a major issue because it ment the virus is start to cheat your own immune system which even proper care wont recover And if it is that serious you WILL hear it especially when there are body bags in the streets and hospitals being overwhelmed People will post this even on their own dying breath having nothing left to lose|1 There are likley several hundred thousands of cases in China and tens of thousands of cases in Iran Nothing in this new data contradicts the estimates of a IFR of arround 1 |0 To put how toxic US labor customs are I was pressured to return to work TWO WEEKS after having my son Which in the end I did because I needed the money to pay for the new babys skyrocketing medical care severe asthmatic As a second example same job after an extensive neck surgery fusion on three levels the same employeran employer I worked for 10 years thought four weeks was enough recovery time from that surgery I Started getting very pushy emails about when I was returning to work That work was pilling up and not getting done I was barely able to take a shower or walk the length of my living room at the time I was expected to be back at work It is so sad how America has become Workers are mistreated underpaid and held hostage by their bullshit health plans tied to oppressive employers Fuck this system we have now|0 Well thats not good|0 People need to start practicing good hygiene hand washing avoiding touching eyes and face with dirty hands stop crapping on sidewalks looking at you Cali If they start feeling ill they need to self quarantine AND CALL doctor hospital health department etc to describe symptoms NOT go sit in a waiting room infecting others Because of lag testing is an ineffective means of containment People need to avoid crowded environments Sick people need to stay home those that actually develop virus can then be evacuate to hospitals by prepared teams and their contacts effectively traced and advised to selfquarantine for 2 weeks That is the only hope for containment It probably wont fully contain but will vastly slow the spread while effective therapies and vaccines are developed|1 Can we set up some proper subreddit guidelines Getting The Sun articles and Daily Mail in my feed posing as factual information is enough reason for me to unsubscribe Happy to go through any mod application if you have one|1 Over 5 at the moment Most governments lying to avoid panicunrestriots Sick of this mentality that everythings gona be ok because its only old people dying|0 I applaud the ambition and good intent of this project But I must ask how can accurate information possibly be modeled or aggregated when such a large percentage of symptomatic people are being told to stay home because they cannot even be tested much less treated How can information be learned about asymptomatic virus behavior when symptomatic carriers cannot even get their cases confirmed Thank you for your time|1 Im sorry I dont want you to feel worse If you have it under control with medication that will help I think its more people who are untreated that are at greater risk|0 Wed never be in this situation if Obama were still in the chair Your president gutted the CDC and disbanded the pandemic response team All I believe just to spite Obama People we know will get sick and some will die because of his poor leadership|0 LOL|1 The first known case in Singapore was an imported one a man from Wuhan And so were the others that soon followed so it wasnt that worrying in the initial stages It was when there were signs of local transmission and community spread that people began to freak out Shelves were wiped out so quickly that there were memes about it because people were hoarding things like toilet paper and instant ramen Needless to say masks and sanitiser were nowhere to be found Thankfully the government assured us that the hospitals had enough and priority would go to them as it should So far knock on wood no COVID19 case has died in Singapore and weve had many people get discharged The number of cases have slowly gone down as people panic less and less I realise that the less people panic and the more we help each other the more the virus is able to be contained because those who are truly sick finally have access to quick medical treatment no long queues at the hospitals meant nobody was turned away and everyone was tested As much as I dislike our overly strict government I felt that they took the right actions and contained everything ASAP They banned travellers from China they distributed masks to every household they quickly identified local clusters and quarantined everybody and their neighbour and their hamster It may seem paranoid to others but I believe that was why it was able to be containedIts a lot like driving you are only as safe as long as other drivers are being careful If you have some moron who has signs of infection but refuses to get tested and goes to several public places then its like being on the road with a drunk driver on the loose|0 30 drop means a depression|0 IIRC most of the rhinoviruses that cause the common cold are not zoonotic So they only live by jumping from human to human As opposed to the flu and coronaviruses which can spread between humans and animals So if everyone was quarantined for a long time we could kill off most of the common cold|0 I get that Thats why I shared it and put above it why its false Hoping thatll help people understand its not true|1 I asked a question no need for the harsh words Why do you think our healthcare system will collapse|0 If he infects anyone and they die then the officials should be arrested for murder|0 USA is doing even worse I think we need to wait for the facts to come out to make that determination at the end of the day From the numbers so far on a per capita basis the USA seems to be doing better than most other countries You can guess thats just because of poor testing but you dont actually knowThe facts wont stop the partisans from screaming though Ironically the people that complain the most about the incompetence of their government right now are the same people that want to give that government more money and power The same people that support the kind of FDA regulations that are responsible for the delay in testing are now the ones writing articles about how bad the response is Its pretty rich|0 Thats ascribing to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence|0 Its part of the Stafford Act Its just 5 million in emergency funding from the feds and a few other resources A presidential disaster declaration is the big money|0 Yes I am Theres more than one study that has been posted|1 Please upload to httpsnullvideocom|1 This are some grim numbers The ratio is really scary|0 Fuck the CDC most worthless ignorant group ever|0 The military and national guard certainly have contingency plans for field hospitals It wouldnt be pretty|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 a 100 success score because yes thats whats required to keep this under control im not buying that|1 Same for me 2 years ago I had pneumonia for 2 months when I was 30 After I recovered I want back to normal for another 6 months|1 Thats Dietmar Hopps Company founder of SAP software hes 4 times richer than trump I guess he can perfectly do without any extra bail money|1 Ooo gotcha Thanks for explaining this|1 I knew a lot of american people are dumb as hell but this is a totally new level Im being introduced to My condolences|0 Ahhh thanks for that tidbit of info Im a bit concerned about my sister as well her company has her flying all over the country on a regular basis I shouldnt be worried though considering her age and almost superhuman immune system plus she hates when people get too close to her so she has an advantage there|1 I go to a very populated public university in the US that is really close to where one of the first cases were confirmed Were approaching final exams which is when my immune system weakens due to high stress I worry about going to class every day and it really sucks |0 The book kind of addressed this by saying most of the qualified officers left the military due to fall out from a recent war Also public perception from that war greatly reduced the flow of recruits|0 Its been pretty consistently warmer than usual in my neck of the NE already We really had no winter to speak of|1 Imagine them on the scene performingLights focused on them we dont really see what is the on the other side its all darkComes the usual spot where the dude offers the mic to the audience so they singyell that partnothing happensDude goes back continues then again offers the mic for the audience and stops the rest of his band from making a soundnothing happens again with queue crickets awkward silencehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDNGzaeLJrNUhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDNGzaeLJrNUx200BHere comes running to their podiumstage a fan yelling wait wait im here do the moveThe singer does it again but this time all we hear is policemensecurity beating the shit of that single fan like some maybe saying undervoice MF stay at homex200BEnd of performance|1 Theres a big difference between knowing CPR and knowing ACLS the measures used in an adult code in the US Theres a whole protocol for what to do when and what meds to give during resuscitation efforts Theres also a big difference between working in a hospital and knowing how to handle critically ill patients because ICUs are their own little world|0 Why are people stocking up with supplies This not the apocalypse Its the flu I have an auto immune disease and I am 65 years The flu is a fast spreading type and affects the lower respiratory system But its just the flu Didnt these hoarders expose themselves to the virus just to get the supplies|0 nothing remarkable here A regular reddit reader knows all of this and more|0 I want to say its okay because they were interacting with a lot of people and fans whose only common denominator must have been the team so it proves community spreadEdit i know community spread is obvious to all of us on this thread but keep in mind that as of Saturday night 14 March the gov of Florida is still denying it happening|0 Its not only expensive but relatively difficult to produce at scale|0 Not only Disney SeaWorld too They were hosting a beer festival on Sunday A friend attended and posted a photo with the caption this is how Floridians prepare for quarantine The photo was of her holding a beer cup at the festival against the background All I could do is tell her it is both disappointing and concerning she is not taking this seriously|1 stop fear mongering no one cares|0 If the quarantine slowed the spread the overwhelming of the hospitals might have been lessened might mean better mortality rateI mean we heard China locked people in their homes Italy isnt doing that|1 We estimated that detection of exported cases from Wuhan worldwide is 38 95 HPDI 2264 as sensitive as it has been in Singapore Put another way this implies that the true number of cases in travelers is at least 28x 95 HPDI 15x 44x the number that has been detected Equivalently for each detected case there are at least 18 95 CI 0534 undetected cases the scenario where the virus has been imported from Wuhan and remained undetected in various worldwide locations is a plausible one at least until the city lockdown 23rd January 2020 and one might speculate that detection capacity remained limited beyond this period as travelers infected elsewhere in China continued to leave China Based on our model the risk of undetected circulation correlates both with air travel connectivity and inversely to outbreak detection capacity but could have happened in virtually any location worldwide leading to the potential risk of selfsustained transmission which may be an early stage of a global pandemic|0 This is what some fringe sources are speculating And call me a conspiracy theorist but about one hundred deaths and pictures of literal piles of corpses in hospitals and strewn throughout the streets dont quite add up|0 My whole house got sick around December 28th It was like the flu but without the nausea or body ache My brother spent the entire day asleep coughing in his room I had fever coughing and it was really hard to shake for about 2 weeksIm wondering whether we had the Coronavirus I remember it was weird because it was worse than a cold but not the flu Im really wondering how long it has been spreading or if we got hit with a weaker version of it|0 It makes sense What is the point of testing for coronavirus once everyone has it and it can no longer be contained Thats where we are|0 Sounds nice but the majority of jobs in the US are not like this Id say probably 20 might do this The rest youre shit out of luck|0 Yup probably right Need to have some time under that light to be effective I would imagineI bought a UV toothbrush sterilizer because why not Sits and hangs in there for a few mins 14 from the light so I imagine that hopefully works|1 That is actually bullshit Not cool Im sorry you have to go through this|0 And jeff bigpieceofbaldshit is asking his employees to share their sick time|0 Just ignore it honestly pedantic fucks|0 So worthless|0 This government is utterly incompetent|0 Alaska Friday morning a meeting had to be rescheduled online so I decided to whip by our Fred MeyerKroger 845 in the morning it was packed Usual stuff low but most food and med shelves had plenty left Plenty of fresh fruitveggies etc Id driven past Costco and the lot was empty since they open at 10 Got back to Costco at 935 and there were 150 idling vehicles in the lot still about 20 F I wandered over to the doors at 10 No line then bc they opened early Pretty busy but people being polite No TP or facial tissue but they FINALLY had Bounty PT which Ive needed for months Looked like theyd put all their stock of some staples like eggs and milk out on the floor Other than paper products nothing was totally gone yet When I left at 1045 there were easily twice as many vehicles out there I had monitored the situation in Italy and when it started to get bad and health care system overwhelmed thats when I had started to stock up a bit Id not been to Costco for 2 months so it was a big haul prepanic Found some gloves at a home med supply and ordered one box of regular medical face masks on Ebay We have enough food to last 6 months and eat well More worried about income Im self employed and depend on paid clients and everyone is in isolation mode Which is fine but if it goes longer than a few weeks Im fed Too small a biz to probably get any real help It would be a 6week wait to try for unemployment Planning to pay mins on credit cards that I usually pay off monthly pay less on those that have balances at low interest stop auto payments for everything including mortgage|1 Yes the advice is that those with underlying medical conditions should self isolate so your family member should aim to do thatI was just pointing out that the poster stated that if you have a weakened immune system you are more likely to catch the virus and there is simply not enough evidence to state this as an outright fact given that young children seem to be mostly unaffected Heres some infohttpsnewsskycomstorycoronaviruswhataretheunderlyinghealthconditionsatgreaterriskfromillness11958276|1 Couldnt agree more With teachers selfisolating we also dont have the numbers to function With a lack of supply staff Ive had to teach 23 classes at a time and its been hellish Let alone all the bloody germs and the lack of cleaning and antibacterial wipes I wouldnt be surprised if we all got it soon Dirty wee shites|0 Just go visit the public health department in person and cough everywhere Maybe theyll take it more seriously then|0 I dont understand anything any government has done during all of this No one has handled this properly|0 Yoga is helpful and something you can do at home|1 Gallows humour but it still made me laugh I just feel baffled Im American married to a Brit and were in Wales We have family on both sides of the pond and I feel like Im a tin foil hatter saying please dont listen to the government Thankfully a month ago everyone started in on Vit D3 even my Dad who probably rolled his eyes every time he took it Im hoping that makes some difference|1 They have intellectual property and are obligated to defend it if they wish to keep their rights to the IP You should be demanding IP reform to make use like this permissible without threatening the rights of the IP holder|1 Yeah ill find it and post a link later|0 Just a fine pastehttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina42465516Link is SFW to a BBC retrospective But further personal googling can reveal exceptionally NSFW horrors that were a part of 1989 for some|0 Theres probably even more cases out there in the US since Trump doesnt want to test people for coronavirus|0 Damn our snow just melted how are we supposed to build a wall nowJokes aside honestly I think weve passed the point of putting pressure on the government Theyve already addressed that they arent closing the borders so to have that reversed unless its a decision made by their staff would take forever to implement The spread is already so close and widespread that the damage will be done before anything happensIts already starting here The borders would need to be closed within the next few daysweeks in order to make a difference and no civilian issue is ever dealt with that fast if|0 While alarming keep in mind this is unconfirmed there are no facts here other than what you see Kids will still continue to die of other causes like usual and if the hospitals are a shit show you can see stuf like this|0 What a moron Its clearly to stop Bernie from taking the nomination Wouldnt waste a virus like that on a walking Cheeto|0 Dont forget to include obesity|1 Huh weird the virus that causes lyme disease causes filamentous borrelial dermatitis I never considered the possibility that it may somehow still get into the nervous system through the physical barrier somehow still|0 Sure in those wealthy countries In less wealthy countries a nonfree ride And you pay upfront None of this insurance bullshit or bill me and Ill pay laterOhh and if the person cant pay Sux for them|0 Pretty sure thats essential since many people use it for medical issues and mental health I use medical for my pelvic pain|1 I was wondering the same thing as OP so your posts have helped me too as I have hypertension and on an ACE inhibitor thats controlling things Please correct me if Im wrong as Im concluding from your posts If theres no relationship between corona and hypertension then it doesnt matter at all If ACE inhibitoras opposed to ACE2 inhibitoris irrelevant here it also doesnt matter Its unclear to me whether hypertension if there were a relationship applies to both controlled and uncontrolled hypertension On the one hand I might think that the hypertension being controlled means that aspect is okay On the other hand the causeseffects of hypertension could be what matters not the controlleduncontrolled part|1 Stick up for them if they receive any hateful or prejudiced comments Only the dumbest people could view this situation as their fault|0 Agree This is just the beginning Ive already moved 50k into low risk funds back in February just for that purpose Im in canada and we call them RRSP|0 Also were waiting on an effective serological test ie antibody test to determine people who have had the virus and recovered That will really revolutionise our approach to testing|1 Yep Alzheimers patients forget how to swallow They often aspirate into their lungs causing pneumonia and die of that|0 Its not that we have the army patrolling the streets like in China This quarantine is just a necessary precautionary measure to reduce the soaring number of people who need intensive care since the hospitals in North Italy are severely overcrowded Internal movements are still allowed if supported by a self certification|1 There are going to be SO MANY LE LAWSUITS as a result of this|0 i wish hope mine is a reddit user|1 I agree with you It seems to me that they are saying the right things ie flatten the peak and reduce the load on the NHS bu their actions indicate they arent doing anything to actually make sure that happens As you say there is no expansion to deal with this in the NHS as far as I know from friends who work in the NHS and the lack of implementing social distancing measures now means that people are out there infecting others at an exponential rate They are not slowing the rate of infection downThey are also not being transparent with the science they are being guided by What are the models they are using what are the assumptions of those models what data are they using They need to make this clear so the scientific community can scrutinise Its not beyond possibility that they have made completely inaccurate assumptions that someone else may pick up on Especially when it seems a lot of the assumptions they are using are based on behavioural science theories and not on actual empirical evidence As you say what is the basis for deciding people will just get bored of quarantine and give up And even if some people do give up what proportion will that be and wouldnt infection rate still be slowed due to the people who are abiding by the quarantine Right now they are allowing pretty much unimpeded spread how is that better than having most people complying with a lockdown Perhaps they are thinking that people will only abide by a quarantine once enough people have died in which case they are taking a moral decision to allow many to die just to teach the rest that its serious and they need to comply That is not a decision they need to make and there are surely other ways of ensuring people comply or even just accept some wont but acknowledge the slowing of the infection rate by those who do comply will ease the burden on the NHSAs far as I can tell the NHS is going to be at breaking point within a month or two given they have thus far implemented no measures to control this disease|1 Why would it be a joke|1 LolI think some of you confuse the simple minded people even more How hard is it to understand that the healthcare system cant handle tons of cases simultaneously|0 I remember doing a thing like this in kindergarten or 1st grade Where we would double something and see how quickly we ran out of materials I remember pennies toothpicks and marshmallows|1 I used to take the subway to dundas I live in North York but Ive been driving everyday for two weeks now Sheppard west dundas station way too many stop for me to be feel safe at this time You|1 To be fair the event was March 410 The West was just starting to wake up to this and Trump still down playing it and praising the temporary market recoveryMany many people wouldnt and couldnt go nowThe West as a whole are idiots for ignoring what happened in Wuhan letting months go by and doing jack shit to prepare and mitigate|1 To be honest there are so many things countries around the world can learn from China from their mistakes and success Everything people are discussing here has been discussed on Chinese social media People were just ignoring those valuable lessons that Chinese learnt from blood|1 What cleaning supply are you using The 60 recommended minimum is for hand sanitizers The CDC states using bleach diluted with water check it out at their website to get dilution suggested Lots of products are listed there that they recommend Using hand sanitizer is better used as a last resort for hands if you cannot get to a sink and wash hands for the minimal twenty seconds Thank you for all you do|1 uncontrollable coughing sounds filled with whizzing and pain|0 This is what I dont get with people insisting they rush vaccines and skip testing People who want it in like 3 monthsIf it turns out the vaccine kills people you probably want to know that before you roll it out to hundreds of millions of people|0 Everyone in the know agrees that we are hosed and the only argument is exactly when we are hosed In think we will step up our social distancing efforts and not be hosed until lateMay I have seen strong arguments for the 1st week in May and I am sure you have some sound arguments for April Everyone needs to wake up and start taking action to slow this thing down|0 Thanks for sharing on how we can support this|1 My 86 year old grandmother whose husband is just out of the hospital flat out refuses help from my parents Its maddening|0 The total mortality will depend greatly on the rate of infections The fatality rate is 23 but approximately 20 of cases are severe enough to require hospitalization If the medical system becomes swamped with cases then most or all of the people requiring hospitalization would end up dying Theres only so many hospital beds so many trained medical staff available This is why governments in severely affected countries have started imposing broad seemingly extreme quarantines This infection is virulent enough that you cant really contain its spread However you can slow it Keep enough people at home and the spread rate will slow Hopefully this keeps the new infection numbers below what the hospital system can handle In short the death rate is highly dependent on the spread speed If quarantines can keep the rate low enough the hospital system can handle the critical cases If the spread rate is high the hospital system becomes swamped and the fatality rate skyrockets from 23 to 1520|0 80 are mild or completely asymptomaticMild for the purpose of that study meant didnt require hospitalization That meant 20 needed to be in the hospital Let me do some math for you Another study suggests that 66 of the cases out there are ones we dont know about presumably because they are the truly mild cases as didnt even go to the doctoras opposed to the didnt get admitted to the hospital mild So given that that means of all the cases 666 had to be hospitalized When unchecked as it is presently in the US this thing grows exponentially Without drastic changes most of the country will be infected in months Lets say 200 million get infected Thats 13 million people who need a hospital bed oxygenmaybe even a ventilator enough medical staff to care for them and proper PPE for that staff Not for one day but for a couple of weeks eachWe have 30 million masks Even with doctors wearing one mask all day long and never removing it to drink a sip of water which is what theyd have to do or stopping to go to the bathroom we run out of masks in a couple of days The United States has 100000 ICU beds before they hit capacity Not 13 million We have 600k beds total if we just make hospitals about Coronaonly and start converting maternity wards and such guess my wife will be delivering at home We need a fucking dramatic mobilization effort pronto This is Pearl harbor medically speaking We need to get factories running at capacity We need temporary hospitals and PPE right away We need to do everything in our power to slow down this outbreak Because it if it happens too fast we are well and proper fucked We could have millions of dead people before this is over|0 Ah yes my killer|0 My pleasure|1 i know rightamazing that some people STILL think its no big deal|0 And we the people are clearly not interested in doing anything about it either so Guess we die|0 Bad Gateway has been plaguing FAH for a while nowI dont think their servers can handle the increase in traffic|0 Thats right way But most companies saw cheap labor and get too excited I wish thisd be the wake up call for them to not put all their egg in one basket|1 Its probable that the strain in Iran has mutated and become more lethal than the others|0 America has a large amount of people who are either too selfish racist dumb or all of the above and they would prefer to over pay billionaires for health care than for poor minorities or people who dont wanna go bankrupt to get heath care Theyre soon gonna learn that Corona does not care about how much money you have|0 Im thinking baths Calgon moments music and just walks At work I just sit at my desk like a robot I used to go work out at lunch time but now Im so fried and behind on my work its impossible to catch up Errgh Im thinking a little pink note card right by my computer to remind myself to get up and walk or lift a weight or anything has got to be better than being root bound|1 Swabbed me for flu and strep both negative decided I have a URI and have antibiotics I have to work on sunday and my work is already pissed i called off tuesday|0 I was going to order from them because of this and there are no locations near me |0 Thanks|1 this is a great way to show people how effective this can be in fact it would be theoretically better than these simulations if a portion of people are fully self quarantined because they likely wont contract it at all unlike the immobile people in this simulation|1 Im a doctor and Im not even sure what theyre getting at here|0 Its not idiotic Its exactly what every state and local government should be doing and the federal government should help with those costs as well We can only get a handle on this thing if we know where it is and who has it That information will help us figure out how dangerous it really is and how to treat it We can only do this if people get tested People wont get tested if they fear being stuck with some huge bill We need to assure people that they will not be stuck with the cost of testing|1 Finally some good news|1 Death Princess would make a cool band name|0 Wow If thats your issue with the word salad that just left that mans mouthWow|1 We gotta be careful not to damage our countrys economy too much Stiff upper lip people|1 About time Making money off a pandemic is not in a good spirit|0 And what they did was end up infecting people that probably wouldnt have caught it in the first place due to poor quarantine measures on that ship|0 How is the vaccine process Why does it take a year Im geniunely confused like its 2020 Why does it take so long Whats with mask isnt effecive narrative I think its complete bs|1 I can guarantee we wont see any political or celebrity deaths from this Only those of us that dont matter|1 Great question I use standard hand soap znd wash for 20 secs with warm water Someone else can probably give a good recommendation on brands|1 They truly deserve each other|1 Most of these companies have a long way to go before they score any points in my book Urban Outfitters is worth over 2 billion dollarsThese are some of the wealthiest companies in the world Their response should be the bare minimum for large companiesApples public announcement mentioned they are donating 15 million dollars to the coronavirus That is a drop in the bucket for a company worth over 1 trillion dollarsThat being said large companies that do not follow suit should absolutely face public backlash ATT and Verizon I am looking at you even though Verizon has closed some locations that is still not enough|1 I know It was super alarming until I checked it out The demographics just make it look worse than it is there|1 Ballerino meanse trembling unstable something which danceWe can say it about a signal or a thing or a situation it can be literal or figurative|0 Your submission has been removed Celebrating advocating threatening suggesting or inciting violence death or physical harm is not allowed in rChinaFlu and it is also against reddits sitewide content policyhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentIf you believe we have made a mistake help be the change you want to see Mod applications now open here httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1themoderationteamofrchinafluislookingtoIf you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Tim Hortons also pretty much forced workers to work when sick because they understaff and make you fond your own way to get sick days covered|0 Im sure that they will all extend to us their thoughts and prayersThese will be nice things to rememberAs we watch this passand see not a single one of them punished chastened nor even so much as shamedIf they feared us then maybeFear has a way of making power accountable But they do not fear usnot even slightly|1 Wow you must have studied PPE or Classics at Oxford too|1 Wicked arguement anyone I dont like is a trollNot once have I downplayed the importance of ANY deathYou have implied it by supporting the heavy recent bias towards US news and hence implying that Americans seeking information now that its directly effecting them is more important that citizens of other countries who are going through the exact same issue Get fucked mate|0 Im low on the totem pole but Im on the CDCHHS response team Every single person is dedicated and working their asses off I stopped working a 1am woke up at 6am to get back to it Havent heard one person suggest resigning|0 This is more or less why I hate reading comments of Reddit|0 I wouldnt visit if you dont need to As we know the elderly are the ones at most risk If they have food and supplies i would just stay home or your puting them at risk|0 I dont necessarily feel this is a bad thing Im quite chuffed that Ive kept myself so informedIt helped me get out and stock up on basic cleaning supplies TP and nonperishable foods a few weeks ago before the recent run on suppliesMy obsession with Coronavirus news also helped me realize people would panicbuy over the next several days so I bought everything Id need for a months worth of homemade meals a few days ago Now lines at stores are around the block and I avoided thatThis is a serious time that commands serious attention and rewards proactive behavior|0 In the initial phasesBut they have been doing little to effectively screen people entering the country from China The initial phase should have been a month ago if not earlierWhy do people think the initial phase is going to exactly coincide with when people start getting tested en masse|1 You could literally see the direction things were going by poking out of your bubble and looking at other countries There was no reason to ever think the US was magically immune People chanting jUsT a FleW then were refusing to do that or acknowledge high school level math in the pretty consistent x125 daily infection growth rate|1 Having to lay in the bed you made is completely missing the point about why this is important We have to be mitigating the costs of this That should include enough cash to keep people able to purchase their necessities including the unemployed like stay at home parentsWe need an unconditional universal basic income as a response to the economic damage that poverty and disease causesThat is if were actually serious about progressing as a civilization|0 Italy still hasnt made any statements regarding nonItalians Flights are still leaving the airports in Northern Italy so it sounds like the lockdown is still a please dont leave but no enforcement|1 Masks help to a certain degree Definitely not 100 or close but better than 0 And do you even work in healthcare It is a fact that flu is not as contagious as coronavirus It is tempting to compare Covid19 to a more familiar disease the seasonal flu After all the flu also has mild symptoms for most people and can be dangerous and lethal among vulnerable populations like the elderly President Trump even made this comparison recently But as the case fatality data shows theres no real comparison About 6 percent of people 60 or older infected with Covid19 die according to the data from China we have so far thats over six times the fatality rate in the US for older people infected with the flu The overall Covid19 fatality rate may be 12 to 24 times the flu death ratehttpswwwvoxcomfutureperfect202031221172040coronaviruscovid19viruscharts And as you can see in many other countries that acted PROACTIVELY their case numbers are starting to go down or havent been high up at all If youve worked or been around little kids before youll know how much they spit sneeze cough Many times they try to catch it but they are just not fast enough Im not saying that school closings dont come with their own set of problems but that shouldnt be a reason to not close them Many other states have acted and proposed plans like in Seattle they are providing backpacks of food and drop off sites for food In LA there are now 40 family centers open for families that still need daycare and food providing them in a less concentrated setting There are solutions so stop saying schools should stay open when you have no idea what its like in there|0 Great advertising from Xiaomi|1 At least here theres a list of diseases dangerous to society COVID19 is on that list now The law makes your consent is basically meaningless if you have one of those diseasesYou can consent to being quarantined or dont consent and be forced to quarantine|0 There is a contradiction that I see in the USA that is to only wear masks when one has related symptoms of covid19 and not to wear one if youre fineWhat about the 1424 day incubation period and the fact that covid 19 is contagious even when someone is asymptomatic The difference between SARS and Covid 19 is that people were only contagious when they displayed symptoms and not during the incubation phase A person appears healthy and therefore is told not to wear a mask by the Gov yet could be infecting people dailyThere was an interesting story the other day on how MTA workers in NYC were told not to wear masks while sanitizing the subway to not incite fear in riders Pretty outrageous when you compare sanitation workers wearing ppe suits masks and googles in AsiaThe US seems to be going about things its own way following an outdated playbook regarding masks By downplaying the severity of the virus I hope it acts as a placebo for us and we can overcome covid 19 The Perspective the gov Wants us to have is that covid 19 is just a strong flu that is only most dangerous to the 60 age group and those who have diabetes hypertension respiratory issues kidney liver problems People under 39 have the best chances and kids between 19 are nearly asymptomatic thank goodness but it still means they can be contagious and spread to their grandparents Well some additional clarification on masks Surgical masks are used to prevent transmission to others if you are sickN95 masks are used to protect yourself from others who have it Now scientists have labeled two strains of COvid 19 S Covid and L Covid S COVID is the one with mild symptoms so I think of the word SmileL COVID is the one that causes respiratory issues So I think of Lung|1 Like I said china crushed it before that was ever was a concern|0 While sleeping helps with distracting me I too wake up think oh god what has happened or is today the day shit hits the fan|1 The point is the federal government will make all their money back some businesses that need an injection of cash get it jobs are saved and the economy doesnt collapse|1 get ready for great weather|1 And then takes up to ten days to be clear of transmitting it Thats 24ish days Could be sooner Likely to be longer Id say a month is reasonable|1 The earth wont get sick right |1 This is how they vape in the Empire Second hand vape to another level|1 Yes youre right this is the 4th reported case from Santa Clara County California It was reported a couple of hours ago httpswwwnbcbayareacomnewslocalsouthbayfourthcaseofcoronavirusconfirmedinsantaclaracounty2245057httpswwwnbcbayareacomnewslocalsouthbayfourthcaseofcoronavirusconfirmedinsantaclaracounty2245057 And wikipedia is only showing 3 cases from the same place That would make it 24 cases in totalGood catch|1 AFTER all the shit theyve inevitably dealt with Unbelievable display of empathy|1 And Britain is doing a large randomized study to see just how many ppl have it Yes Im really interested in these results|1 Honestly good he deserves this|1 I remember seeing Dr Campbell stating that the use of NSAIDs to counter the fever may have played a role in spiking deaths in Italy|1 If you show symptoms stay at home and dont leave for 2 weeks If you start to actually get bad call 911 and tell them you have it 99 chance|0 I dont think this is entirely true LA county can barely test ANYONE for Coronavirus Money isnt going to move you to the front of the line Heidi Klum is saying she is sick and cant get tested Tom Hanks is in another country and the Utah Jazz situation was likely unique|0 So you think everyone who got their shit together and worked harder should pay 11 to 15 percent more in taxes to pay for the health benefits of those who didnt Yeah no Imagine thinking youre entitled to other people supporting your assAnd like I said The ER does not deny you based on if you have insurance In fact laws dictate That they have to treat you if you have severe illness Youll just have a bill to pay So dont play the they cant get treatment bullshit card Chances are they can get that bill written off anyway|1 I mean they started working again and opening up factories China wouldnt do that unless they thought they had it under control China took drastic measures to get a grip on it something neither South Korea or Taiwan did and they were able to get a handle of it Its not this unstoppable plague if you do the right things Even if you dont trust China surely you trust South Korea Taiwan Germany etc|0 Slavery and caste system |0 Jesus thats awful|0 Send her our prayers and best wishes|1 Tests havent been the issue Im tired of seeing all these labs coming out with the ability to make x amount of tests a day When the feds get their act together everyone will have a test Theyre the problem here not lack of tests or testing capability Theyre just been so shockingly incompetent that this wouldnt even be a believable movie|0 Pathetic Good on you|0 I know it well My SO went to Mt Markham|1 Couldnt have put it any better than this He definitely died a hero and he should not be forgotten|1 Yes I dont like that either There was one confirmed case weeks ago that was from China related travel and was quarrentined That case has since tested negative and been released to normal activities but I dont believe for a second that there arent other cases here|0 You should always have emergency food water medicines cash etc Its called being a responsible adult|0 She would of also infected people on the plane who should of shown symptoms by now|0 Bless up |1 Thats way too harsh to call this person spreading lies and panic Yeah I get it some trolls do that But this situation is different The whole world is trying their best to understand wtf is happening inside China and Wuhan|0 I believe it This is what the TP shelves looked like at my local publix earlier today|1 You do not need to worry about end of the world shit like thisWell thats what they say in zombie movies and look what happensOn a bit of a serious note Just look back at Hurricane Katrina Not a virus but that city was basically end of the world type scenario for those people Shit hit the fan pretty damn fast and supplies didnt make it there for DAYS Not talking 12 days either much longer 48 days That was ONE city and no virusWe arent even close to that scenario though Im optimistic that it will slow down after flu season|0 Thank you|1 The tricky thing about this virus is that people dont start to get seriously ill until like 3 weeks after theyve been infected The people getting hospitalized right now probably caught it in early february thats a lot of time for spreading without seeing seriously sick people|0 is this for them to get tested or for them to be in contact with teams in their constituencies because that clarification is important|1 just wear ur mask practice good hand hygine and ccw|1 We have a chance to vote him out of office|1 Right Nazis are no better than Left SJWS Freedom is better than communism your example is China How many people disappeared then suddenly China has plenty of organ transplants|1 FWIW I doubt indoor malls will be a thing in America anymore after this Theyve been dying a slow death over the past two decades but I expect the months of no business and then the general crowd scare to put them out Probably best to just quit that shit now instead of getting fired in a few weeks|0 Oh I always pay with an Echeck to avoid the fee It truly doesnt help at all and something really needs to be done about these greedy ass companies not being helpful Like it is a pandemic|0 Since she does not mind left overs she can cook a big meal and eat for days We cook most nights That is the next days lunch Sometimes Sundays I make way to much for a lazy night that week It does amaze me how people have so much money to eat out With a mortgage and car payment I have to cook|1 I would write and formal email to your school stating why youre not going to class Email all your profs as well student body etc Tell your friends to do the same Dont go its not worth it They will close the schools down within a week or two anyway Being ahead of the curve is a wise decision If you want to be proactive for your education Lock youre self up in your apartment and study write papers on topics you like Do whatever you think is necessary to gain the knowledge and wisdom you wish to have but do that from home |1 Air pollution increases the frequency of chronic respiratory conditions These conditions are a risk factor for complications and sensitivity to respiratory diseasesSo youre right that this should make people living in polluted regions such as most of China more susceptable to Covid19But I wouldnt necessarily call that overlooked because its as much under the umbrella of preexisting conditions as for example heart disseases putting people living in the US under increased risk due to widespread obesity which increases the frequency of heartdisseasesThen again I do agree that not enough attention is put on itActually in China its a bit of a difficult topic because a few years back there was that videofilm about pollution in China released on national TV causing a big fuss resulting in both a removal and a ban of that video In that film among other things they brought up the frequency of chronic respiratory diseases caused by the smog which people commonly called fog|0 just had my housemates a single women and her two teenage boys deliberately travel to California DisneyUniversal Studios etc believing that this is a nothing boys were actually scared and voiced it a few timesonly to be shushed by their mother They left this morning I tried a number of times to dissuade it to no avail|0 The games were not that good and over hypedhides|0 Is there any its just a flu bros left|0 Im concerned for the crew as well I hope the roommates of the crew members who tested positive have been taken out of that ship|1 False positive|1 Viruses scatter and scurry in fear when they see DJT acomin|0 People also have a hard time realizing that 0 2 is the current CFR for that age group and the IFR is realistically more like 002 and at best 001 That 1 in 500 ends up more like 1 in 5000 or 1 in 10000 and thats only counting those actually infectedIm not saying we shouldnt take this seriously but lets not get it in our heads that 1 in 500 young people are going to die from this or anywhere near that|0 My brother owns a business Hes staying open so that he DOeSNT have to kay employees off He said the unemployment maximum wont cover most their monthly cost mortgages groceries utilities etc|0 I think patient rooms need negative airflow for the coronavirus since its airborn it might actually end up similar to the ebola protocol but Im not a healthcare worker myself so Im not 100 sure I worded my previous post a little weird what I meant was that when the ebola outbreak was happening they were more prepared for that then they are currently for the coronavirus|0 Currently got a really sore throat Paracetamol never seems to help me much so dont know what to do now haha |0 Its a huge gamble for sure technically this virus started with 1 person in Wuhan|1 International mining conference at TorontoYep travel ban are totally unnecessary and overreactingsedit format|0 And hopefully this delay isnt related to the insane requirement that all comms go through the White House for approval|1 Think came in following every day since 27k members Thankful allowed us to mentally prepare whats coming and at the same time stock up on certain items My friends said I was crazzy and followed MSM is affecting them harder suckers|1 I agree quicker easier and more coordinated testing would be very useful But since we know its primarily spread by respiratory droplets per CDC website and we know people with little to no symptoms are contagious and we know people will go outside when they are contagious people need to work etc then requiring masks will greatly reduce the amount of virus a person spreads its will be caught in his mask and then your own mask gives you a second layer of protection Is it perfect no but reducing 90 percent of the virus that is expelled is critical to flattening the curve and shows in Asian countries as effective|1 I didnt say that But I do think that when the US realizes the seriousness of it the population willingly or not the precautions will be taken I believe there will come a point after the initial chaos what needs to be done At least I hope so and I have to|0 You really got it wrong I love sharks well animals in general and I blame Jaws movie for bad rep I am not saying sharks are some horrible animals That wasnt my point But I believe most people here understood that|0 God wont save us science will|0 Seattle is the one that most concerns me because I live in Victoria Im two hours and one ferry ride away from a possible hot zone and I wouldnt be surprised if its in my city already|0 Given the Japanese ganbare spirit he may have worked up until the 5th If it took him seven days to test positive while in hospital I can only imagine how far it has spread The local clinics people go to for the flucolds arent going to be testing for this|1 Thanks god I was starting to feel afraid|1 I honestly dont know This friend is offended pretty easily about most topics|1 I was reading on other site what in accoridng this information Genotypes and allele frequencies of angiotensin converting enzyme ACE insertiondeletion polymorphism among OmanishttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3174717 Situation with contagiosis and severity in Iran will be three times more worse then in China This apply to D Allele FrequencyAnyone can confirmrefute this|0 ok boomer|1 Also if you have symptoms then please wear facial masks for other peoples sakeIf you live in an area with known 2019nCoV patients then wear facial masksn wash your hands sanitize a lot and stay indoors Preferably N95 masks antiviral masks|1 Im a school bus contractor and I drive the bus everyday Luckily I have a couple back up options as my kids were sick last week Took them in for screening was not tested Told to go home and stay home No driving bus However my employer fully expects the school bus to be on the road next week whether Im sick or not My whole contract is being threatened if theres no bus So my backup was able to drive today Now my husband will take over for the rest of the week But we already know that people can spread this asymptomatically Our gov is fucking useless|0 I did and I know statistics as well It predicted four days and then it went off the rails You cant say that the model fits perfectly when it clearly didnt Rsquared cant be used on nonlinear models as you saw he used it on a quadratic model Furthermore quadratic equations can be used to estimate exponential data httpsstatisticsbyjimcomregressionrsquaredinvalidnonlinearregressionhttpsblogminitabcomblogadventuresinstatistics2fivereasonswhyyourrsquaredcanbetoohighNot questioning that the data from China is inaccurate Just questioning little high school statisticians and their kindergarten followers that dont know shitId be happy to be proven wrong would show me how little I knowabout regression analysis|1 Dang I hope someone in your family is writing a book Id readlisten to it|1 My wife is fully on board now Ive convinced a few friends to prep now Its easier now that the CDC came out and told Americans to prepare|1 Its not that they dont give a shit its that if everything around you looks more or less normal which means anything except an utter apocalypse and your authorities make it send like its being handled and we can all avert it together if we keep doing what they keep telling usPeople have no reason for acting differentlyA lot of these folks lived in times of more reliable public leaders and even for people that doubt it truly is incomprehensible that the world is doing so littleIts not that they dont care its that they cant even fathom and if the message isnt transmitted why should they its worse than the messageThrow in some American exceptionalism and there ya go|0 Being in Australia helps|1 Well its not like giving the western world the extra 2 weeks time would make any difference in terms of their prep efforts they are still doing nothing|0 Is it possible to see if someones already had Coronavirus but doesnt anymore In a few months I can see there being a shitload of people who are confused about whether that illness they had was actually COVID19|0 By slow down they dont mean make it stop Just spread out over time If there was zero actions taken to prevent spread it would go through the population within a week and then wed be able to get over it within 2 or 3 weeks Of course a lot more people would be dead with that method|0 Sadly it will be really bad everywhere not just in Australia Of course deaths are not the only impactful metric by far there would be far more seriously ill people than those who die In addition to the many millions who would die many more would become severely ill and need hospital care How many Right now the WHO estimates 20 httpswwwgooglecomampswwwnytimescomarticlewhatiscoronavirusamphtml Some of them will be critically ill with Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and multiple organ failure common complications of this virus requiring ICU level care with full ventilation There are only a hundred thousand or so ICU beds in the entire United States a highly developed first world country Even if only a small percentage of the 72 million severely ill people in America need ICU treatment to survive assuming the lower 11 infection figure youre easily exceeding the entire countrys ICU capacity many times over And of course ICU beds dont just sit around empty all the time when there is no pandemic around and people dont stop needing the ICU for other nonpandemic things just because a pandemic is happening The same applies to regularly staffed hospital beds of which America only has roughly a million of To treat 72 million severely ill people On the low end Now imagine you live in West Africa or a poorer district of India how do you think the hospital situation there would fare with such influx So you can see why a pandemic coronavirus is likely not on the same level as the common flu or heart disease or whatever random common thing people online are comparing it to If it happens it will be a highly memorable world event killing perhaps a fourth to a half as many people who died in World War 2 assuming no more than 20 of people in the world catch it and assuming health care can keep up so that otherwise manageable cases arent triaged or just neglected into a fatality which might be asking a lot In a really bad scenario 100 million plus deaths across the globe is probably not out of the question At some point it gets bad enough that you have to start taking into account the effect of collapsed supply chains production shortages and breakdowns in civil order Which is way beyond back of the envelopehttpswwwredditcomrworldnewscommentseui9uilivethreadwuhancoronavirusfg06uss|0 Thing is that these people will be checked and denied entry because of their own travel history|0 Youre welcome and its a pleasure I can only speak on behalf of myself but I can assure you hygiene and safe practice is at the forefront of my mind at all times but especially at this time x|1 Agreed 1000000 New Yorker herethe stock market is a complete over valued fabrication right now Wall Streeters know it and the richest of the 1 laugh about it They are glib and have this not my problem Im better than you attitude about the rest of society they are stabbing in the back with their dirty deeds Theyve now legalized lying to stratospheric levels And they smile unflinchingly in peoples faces as they screw them over I see it every day as I am around all these jerks on an intimate level business wise A street hooker spreading AIDS has more credibility than these people do|1 The US government has done an absolutely bad bad bad job at this From denying media included to downplaying it as a hoaxNow they have blood on their hands from misdiagnosed deaths|0 I see loose stools c diff and blood in stool so likely that bought him a GI consult and other complications|0 Agreed youd see healthcare workers talking just as China did|1 They should use the empty schools and other places that businesses have been shutting down Grab a cot put a person there with a ventilator or what not and toss a few nurses there or maybe a few volunteers who were trained quickly how to watch those things If they trained me I would go there and sit with the person Tons of people are willing to help I am sure After it is all said and done they could send in some people to disinfect|1 Actually uncertainty over the weekend can be at least as bad|0 I agree I am just trying to inform comment readers that there was no known or obvious symptoms that would prompt the testing|1 I wouldnt work a job that gave me anxiety I rather be broke|0 From what were reading from doctors yes They are triaging and deciding who gets the medical equipment and who doesnt because theres not enough for everyone Were being told the elderly are being shunted to the side because theyre not expected to make it One thing is even younger people arent getting to the hospital until theyre in a really bad state Maybe if they got there sooner they could be saved But then again if theres nothing to save them with|0 rCOVID19 for actual scientific discussion with no bullshit|0 Well if you look at total deaths per total population not just infected Italy is around 24 deaths per million and South Korea is at 14 deaths per million So I dont think it explains the whole discrepancy That doesnt show death rate per infected but clearly shows a massive difference in the impactEDIT About five of you now have pointed out that the reason Italy is so much higher is because of the large elderly population I really have no idea why the numbers are higher I was just pointing out that the referenced numbers werent using affected quantity in the denominator|1 we love eating crayfish If there are some disposable gloves for eating crayfish at your home find out and wear themGross crayfish live in disgusting environments and Ive seen many with parasites I used to catch them with a net as a kid and let them go|1 Because neither of those were nearly as widespreadWhen shit shows up on your doorstep it gets personal|0 It turns out your parents are going to be protected its been revealed that the governments plan basically involves quarantine all the elderly and at risk for several monthsEveryone else is to be thrown to the wolves Im not completely sure how I feel about that yet but at least it now looks like there is more to the governments plan than herd immunity|1 British Government and people showing their superior management skills as compared to the third world|1 Finally being old is in my favor Zoomers I salute you for your involuntary service|1 fuck this shit were about to go through the worst year in recent history be brave yall|0 Doesnt it make more sense for you to stay home instead Just saying We cant infect you when you are home And there are more healthy people than people like you Why should we sit home so that you can keep on living like you did before I dont get it|1 Lets also not forget the media lapdogs who ignored the problem until it was too late They did love telling us not to be racist Social justice will end up in social collapse|1 Went to the hospital last week and said my chest has been hurting for a month since February and I feel like I have some viral infection Doctor said its probably nothing and then shook my hand|1 Hey u know what people here do crazy stuff but not so extreme like like with snakes People here sometimes claim themselves as God Pastors make people dance like shit to prove they are possessed by the devil Those are damn funny|0 Even the spirits are getting nervous|0 Same I have anxiety anyway and was thinking will It be distracting or scare the crap out of me Unsure which Hopefully someone can enlighten us |0 Good luck mate|1 Welcome to the discussion This has been the prevailing theme on this sub for weeks Youre preaching to the choir|1 Yeah and if he mentioned the Lancet article why is he still using Chinese numbers Which source do you trust more at this point Why does he just shrug these numbers off and say he hopes it isnt true Why is that an acceptable response|1 What kind of weird practices do they have for that kind of spread This isnt from Korean bbq|0 Yeah big kudos to the biomed folks Them and EVs keep the lights on|1 Dropkick Murphys Im shipping up to BostonCDC no|0 mei ban fa|0 Inspiring innovation Persistent perfection If you playing the Minecraft on an ASUS mobo |1 We did the same Our cleaners are a family business and have an adorable little girl born just last week|1 Just saying China looks out for its citizenshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPovertyinChinaAccording to the World Bank more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty Chinas poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 07 percent in 2015|0 Thats one intense grandma|1 Singapore have banned Chinese visitors since Jan 31|0 Neither bodes well for the city A tiny tiny fraction of that city goes to the airport or flies|0 One of the girls in my office lives with her grandmother and is having panic attacks in her office Meanwhile two of my coworkers asked me if I wanted to come with them to Dunkin like noI dont|0 It sucks getting carded for alcohol but you know what sucks worse Not getting carded anymore to buy alcohol|0 I AGREE Irresponsible at this point These are the same fuckers that bought up all the home depot masks except this time it is fucking medications I feel like these people should be publicly shamed|0 yeah its really depressing me we have a major benefit of not too many infections yet and a lot has already been learned but we are throwing it away because oh the economy oh the gran prix etc etc At what pointinfection rate do we admit that this is going to transmit in the Australian community too without seriouus intervention my bet is only once it is too late At which point we realise oh yeah we should have actually taken those intitaives Oh yeah we shouldnt have let the chief medical officer make the politcal decisions about what actions are feasible Oh yeah we should have restricted entries from countries of unknown risk ie USA etc etcComing into winter here Everything we do NOW helps limit the new infections rate number of unrecovered infections through traditional flu season Every ten prevented infections at the start wil show massive benefits in a few months|1 Maybe they can put them in the cruise with the other 7k people lol|1 It depends Experts and governments in Asia recommend people to wear masks when you stay indoor Surgical masks can prevent airborne disease N95 masks are for the medical crews usually|1 should be a lot more considering their practical value|1 Maybe we need it Humans have been fighting and killing each for so long that we seem to forget that our real enemy is the world around us and if we dont adapt we dont survive Maybe a worldwide perspective change will happen when this is all over|0 People at my work are pissed about this and music weekAND they heard one of the EDM cruises was still happening and I was blown away how blissfully excited they were about itLike you wanna go be on a fucking cruise right now Have you even bothered to pay attention|0 I like to guess the infection and death numbers for the next updates|0 Same for Long Island Waiting for Cuomo to tell them to stop being stupid fuckface morons Parents in my district wont even allow the use of bleach to clean surfaces in schools for years because chemicals bad and seasonal sickness and exposure for those at home in contact with staff and children has skyrocketed Theyre going to get us all sick and then say oh woops|0 Hey carry on with your life while being vigilant|1 Source Common senseThe regular flu has been around for ages in the course of human history We have plenty of research on that so its not much of a threat to us The coronavirus just happened like months ago and its pretty severe We dont have a cure for that yetEDIT Some stuff|1 Stop lying about shit idiot You have not one bit of proof that its being covered up in Western countries and there is plenty of evidence to the contrary so fuck off with this dumb false equivalence|0 I hear you Ive tried to warn people too since January and got called crazy I got angry as things got worse but now feeling straight depressed This sucks|0 fuck I just necked an ibuprofen|0 they were corrected from areedit that being said it is also likely that the reagents to test for the novel coronavirus are going to be rationed soon likely already are and since this lady is not in the demographic most vulnerable she was probably denied testing by the nhs based on that Ill ask my coworkers about it but im not sure how many of our labs private clients are willingly testing possible cases of it and instead directing them to the nhs who are presumably better prepared seeing as everywhere is saying do not come here if u think u have covid19edit 2 my lab is no longer receiving private samples due to how many were received at this point it is NHS only due to the escalating situation If u have any concerns please contact the NHS and if u r unable to be tested or are advised to continue as normal please try ur best not to potentially infect others strap in guys and gals we are in for a ride|1 Nobody could have prevented it comingbut that doesnt mean you ignore a problem until its too obvious to do so Preparation and quarantine measures could have been developed and implemented in that time Hell theres still no strong federal response to this just relying on local communities to respond And then misleading the population to the risk hinders their opportunity to respond or prepare Weve seen much more proactive responses in many other countries|0 An average Chinese hospital wouldve served food to patients but in this case I think the hospital stopped doing so concerning sanitation issues and that they probably had no resources anymore to supply food running in full capacity|0 Youll be proven right in the long run Dont be bullied by morons with no foresight|0 I think it depends on how much money they make from this vs the usual theatrical release There are a lot of people with no access to a cinema but with access to the internet And plenty of people who dont like the cinema experience|0 China liesThis is in every thread like who cares are this point We understand the real effects and I couldnt less whats happening in China|1 Some people dont even show symptoms everOthers like a few people i have seen at work think they just have a cold and might actually have it|1 Why dont we have tests No one is explaining the shortage Cant South Korea just tell us how they made the damn things|0 Yep scientist are asking themselves the same questions and others why child are mostly unaffected and discovering more and more by the day The whole science world is in full march|1 Yes China should be absolutely held accountable Is it gonna hapoen Never Why Do you bite the hand that feeds you The top 1 has been hoarding economic growth of the past decades They want status quo and they been making Too much money off of trades with China|1 Saying the White Houses efforts fell short is like saying my attempt to make the Olympics in the 100m by sitting on my couch drinking beer and watching Seinfeld reruns fell short|1 Really bad containment measures and an unprepared health care system I would guess|0 Unfortunately the governments main concern is money not mortality rate|0 Even 3rd country like VietNam has been doing better than us|1 Thats where I totally disagree We all get how serious this is and the circle jerk of panic that we create through our conversations perpetuates the panic Gotta have someone bring a light side or we all get wound up so hard its difficult to unravelYoull downvote me but before you do think about how stressed everyone is and what a huge effect simple laugh or change of perspective can have on someones outlook|0 My trust is in Tom If Tom says its time to panic I will panic|0 I sincerely hope you are joking becauseAWeather stripping and door sweeps will not make an interior door air tightB its totally unnecessary its not an airborne illness|1 Castro would be proud|1 No they just believe in what they believe and grab all bs they can to believe in it People tend to try to force their current believes or they will shatter Thus conspiracy etc|0 YES|1 Its going to take months since its a risky move Things must be in tight control before opening schools again|0 Omg this is similar to what Im going through right now My SO is in recovery from a successful cancer surgery I turned my work from home life upside down to caretake him for nearly 6 months We have a tiny house and his mother has been coming here nearly everyday during it Theres been no breathing or work room for me Now hes in recovery and shes still coming here multiple days a week She wont listen to me when Ive told her to not go out for lunches and she brings fast food here Im furious and have been talking about leaving Its put me in a terrible position she has a house of her own and if she gets him sick it could kill him hell it could kill me too Weve been fighting for days I need to make a decision soon on what to do Im just so mad that hes being codependent and wont fucking tell her to stay home for a fucking month|0 If one were stuck at home in a quarantine what measures could you take Any way to MacGuyver a respirator Any cocktail of OTC drugs that would put a dent in it|0 No shit How is this simple chain of reasoning that was easy to arrive at 3 weeks ago so inaccessible to so many|0 Obligatory Thanks for the gold kind stranger|1 That isnt happening and you arent under my skin This is diverting and I have your measure You are a hysterical fool Go fuck yourself|0 Smile and wave boys Smile and wave|1 Two weeks ago in a small town in North Louisiana we had two people die of viral pneumonia a 43 year old and 50 year old man and woman We are definitely undiagnosed I cant imagine the numbers if we were actually testing everyone with respiratory symptoms|0 Get your fucking identity politics out of actual problems in need of actual solutions|0 Welcome and you too|1 Poland was also the only European country vigilant for WW2 in the years after WW1 ignoring those planning it|0 Unfortunately yes|1 no lets just throw it into the stock marketand its gone|0 The rules are different for 50 person small businesses but they are not automatically exempt for everything FMLA covers If that is your situation call one of the phone numbers on the websites I linked to chat with someone about what you areare not able to do and keep that in mind when you put together a contingency plan Subcontractingnon traditional employee work is SOL too me but Im still bringing it up in casual conversation with friends and family when they talk about how screwed they might be if they got sickhad a work shut down due to quarantine|1 UK tactics are bonkers Its full of infected people not tested the common thread is we cannot do anything about it so we keep everything open I mean there are school pupils from UK in Italy now and they will go back to school on reentryUK is a timebomb|0 Have seen that is a possibility like with SARS But for SARS wasnt major pathway Have you read anything saying this has been shown significant pathwayThe Sars example was pretty limited IIRC to a single apartment building bc of how its bathrooms were set up|1 Im prepared for the downvotes on this the healthcare system in China is ABYSMAL First of all its pay to play So people likely arent going to the hospital until they are extremely ill because they cannot afford it My American husband spent time in what was deemed the nicest hospital in a major city in China and he walked away with PTSD from what he saw It was not up to any kind of Western standards Every time the doctors wanted to administer a procedure medicine etc he had to pay China is not known for its standards of cleanliness If youve ever spent time there you know people are spitting loogies all over the place kids are urinating in the street and this is all what I saw in Beijing Never mind the less Westernized cities Also the smog will add deadliness to a respiratory infection I came down with a brutal sinus infection when I spent a week there this is YEARS ago before anyone thinks Im a coronavirus patient just from inhaling all the crap in the air This is also probably why its less deadly outside of ChinaAnyway off my soapbox Ive been reading here because coronavirus makes me nervous but then i remember all of the above know I am healthy with access to good healthcare and I feel better|1 Nobody will take it serious until its at their doorstep|0 Unfortunately the situation creates a perverse shortterm incentive for younghealthy people to go out more with fewer crowds lower travel prices no disruption to normal life etc The silver lining is some businesses temporarily stay open a little longer They just fail to heed the longterm indirect effects The virus is first infecting the reckless but its not really harming them because the people out and about are too younghealthy to really get too sick It has consequences for the olderimmunocompromised people these reckless then subsequently infect as well as the healthcare system at large running over capacity and sending the country into a recessionProbably going to have to come to martial law overrun hospitals business closures mild recession Virus really a gut punch to the attitudes the USA espouses personal liberty individualism and capitalism funded via lower social safety nets and healthcare benefits|0 No kidding|0 Your last reason is the only good reason for quarantine|1 Were a country with high obesity this is gonna be bad here Age isnt the only factor in the virus determining if youre going to be a critical patient|0 No worries if anything that operation wouldve costed money since I imagine it was made through the national healthcare system|0 There is no debt trap its been greatly misrepresentedHeres an indepth look at whats going on in Africa httpswwwtandfonlinecomdoiabs1010802379294920191689828tabpermissionsscrolltopjournalCoderard20Another source for whats happening on the ground httpswwwmckinseycomfeaturedinsightsmiddleeastandafricatheclosestlookyetatchineseeconomicengagementinafricaChina has been an overall positive force in Africa there are issues however but theres nothing scary about their influence in relation to the countries that have previously been in the region|1 the coronavirus is not a disease people can contract simply by being in a large open space Thats past the zone of willful ignorance thats just downright malicious for a mayor to say|0 NYC STUDENTS AND TEACHERSJust dont go Its a national emergency Lawyer up Or realistically they will probably close the schools in the next day or so|0 I wish I could give you more than one upvote Bless you|1 Still waiting for the proof that homemade masks are as good as lab tested masks|1 Youre gonna put Kobe dying on the same level as the rest of this shit|0 If one area decides to close bars people just go across state linesIts almost like living in a continent with free movement and when one country shuts down just crossing the border httpswwwcnnmoneychshowsbigpicturevideoscoronavirusshutsdownitalyswissborderopenhttpswwwcnnmoneychshowsbigpicturevideoscoronavirusshutsdownitalyswissborderopen|1 The main argument is the NHS cannot cope due to a decade of underfunding by the Tories who are still on charge While herd immunity is usually a good idea this is used against known viruses where there is a vaccine There have been reported cases where COVID19 has returned to a patient after they have been given the all clear|1 Im so sorry that youre going through this Its not ok|0 I hope so A lot of media have also engaged in hysterics and fearful speculation which I think is ultimately quite detrimental|0 Eggs well dont you guys got a virus hitting your chicken farms at the same time That would explain thatThats truthalready eggs are good mediumnourishment for some microbiology like production for example vaccines or less good thingsNot proper storage of eggs could lead for example to salmonella outbreak too what in such situation would have dire consequences more weakened people in hospitals full of virusinfected people|1 Thank you so much for posting this I know facts dont matter to the sort of people who keep spouting conspiracy theories but theyre good to have anyway|1 I want to get corona now|1 FYI Live feed terminated abruptly at 14032|1 It was confirmed by the HHS Secretary Azar There is no good reason to believe this wont be the case|1 Stop bursting the red DNA bubbles|0 Government didnt do shit Government cantwont help us Cmon man wake up|1 Im going to Disney next week Were both healthy adults plan to wash our hands constantly and are preparing to self isolate upon our return if need be Well see how the crowds are|1 No offense but my family cant survive self isolation for three months as people are describing here|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats why fearmongering is bad|0 Hes pretty ruthless If the West doesnt deal with this well it will be a massive PR win for authoritarian regimes like Russia and China However Putin himself is not immune to COVID19 Its hard for leaders to hide away from the public or appear to show fear Look at how the Iranian regime is falling sick Maybe it will take out a few tin pot dictators|1 Honestly I think Americans are more ready to accept quarantines than our government is to impose thrm Ditto most other countries in the developed world|1 Yes it would lol I actually went and got four big things of coffee and I see people rushing to get water and carts full of toilet paper at the local Walmart And Im thinking to myself yall are stupid I got the important stuff right here lol|1 I feel you Hoping you feel better soon What region are you in|1 Good bot|1 Ive always found people that lick their fingers and then touch paper to be revolting I dont even understand why youd need to do it or how you could pick up that habit Its just disgusting|0 Previous vaccines for SARScov1 had issues Experimental vaccines on rare occasions in the past increased your susceptibility to the viruses Several promising HIV vaccines failed due to this issue and there is some very weak evidence that suggests that sars1 may also have had this issue It is yet to be seen if that is in fact the case and if SARScov2 also has that issue but that is a potential if unlikely outcome to these experimental vaccines|0 Theyre only manufacturing what their clients want to buy Their clients are largely from capitalist countries The global language is money and its what individuals and corporations care about most Everyone in the supply chain makes the conscious decision to be involved in the process If consumers cared more about ethically sourced goods they would purchase those instead and thankfully more and more are Retailers and manufacturers would quickly adjust their offering accordingly China isnt forcing their goods on the rest of the world Its a transaction that truly showcases human greed The rest of the world is buying their products because theyre cheap and directly enabling Chinas pollution while hypocritically blaming them for it|1 and an unelected supporter eugenics Dont forget Dominic Cummings in all this|1 The Chinese government should have sanctions placed on them by every country on Earth Its due to the unenforced shit health and hygiene standards in this country that we in civilized countries have been subjected to this Even in the most backwoods ignorant places in the US you wouldnt see things like the wet markets there|0 When this shit blows over all these companies especially in tech where wfh is just easy will discover that it will cost them staff loyaltyDont care for us Well enjoy the cost of replacing us|1 The Starbucks near my work is open I normally get something at least once a week and was thinking about it today I decided not to bc I figured the fewer sales the get the more likely they are to close and let people stay home and hopefully not get sick|1 If the US and other warm countries can get their shit together during the warm season it would be a great time to take precautions to prevent mass spread once it gets cold again|1 Great idea I have been thinking the same|1 What is this we shit They let the virus fester in either wet markets or the BSL 4 lab down the street during the crucial phase of global response they were lying about their numbers and their solution included welding people into their homes The Chinese states behavior got us into this mess if you like their government so much Ill pack your bags|0 Speculation on medical treatmentLook I understand this rule But for those of us living in US who basically wont get tested until were near death I would like to know what the best OTC treatment looks like Can anyone comment to that without it getting deleted|1 Finally some good news|1 It has been 5 hours since I wrote that and the existential dread has fully set in I work for a publicly traded company in the title industry I could be out of a job by the time this pandemic blows over I could lose my house I could lose everything Its not even funny anymore|0 Not to mention those in Private Care which are currently only accessible for a hefty fee|1 Thats good news|1 100 Exploitation of the proletariat for the greed of the 1 is responsible for the vast majority of the worlds problems|0 The OP just needs some of the Cup of Calm tea|1 15 days ago this was the total number of reported mainland China cases to 25 January Now we have that many new cases being reported daily and an unknown number unreported |1 The problem is the CDC is used to outsourcing all medical product production to China so when China cant do it they hit a brick wall|0 Im in one of the UC schools and apparently some students have no idea why everything is being conducted remotely now Some literally went out to bars right after they knew from email that they did not have to go to schools anymore|0 to be fair medicine ball is a name completely made up by customers Its actually called a honeycitrus mint tea and baristas are trained not to call it anything medicinal|1 The Chinese government would have collapsed by now if rest of the country were dealing with the same kind of severe and mortality figure as Wuhan|0 all nonessential workers should just walk out what are they going to do fire everyone|0 Dont you know Cambodians Iranians Indians and Koreans all share the same culture Educate yourself|1 The news radio station host today said he has a trip to NJ next week to see his mother who is in chemo for cancer treatment He said he can no longer go because on the off chance that he spreads it to his parents he may end up killing them He said he wasnt sure if he would be able to see his mother again because of her condition Really sad stuff|0 Thanks Sorry about late replythis is second account for privacy reason|1 I think it would be good if people thought of workarounds as much as possible The Korean idea of the drive through testing clinics are an example and China delivering food to people instead of them going to a restaurant or grocery store Not just a total halt on everything but a rethinking and reorganizing People are very innovated when they need to be|1 i dont disagree at all just saying thats when reddit stopped being the place that you could post breaking news 30 seconds after an active shooter started shooting in your vicinity|1 TBH I think thats a lost cause but in we go|0 Hope the fuck so Aieeee|0 Hes loved by everyone he cares about|1 No it isnt Youre wrong Italy spends about 14 of its expenditure on healthcare The UK about 20 Italy actually just has more privatisation which kills bureaucracy and less people They absolutely do not have 50 ECMO machines For one that would be ridiculous to have in one facility theyre needed rarely and two theyre a few million each Theyre almost as expensive as an MRI machine|0 Youre not wrong Look at the nursing subreddits they report the same thing Ask any medical professional you know Masks have been drying up for months this six month supply is likely not taking into account a potential pandemic Just in time inventory practices combined with no safety stock have left us all hurting right now|1 H3 Its containableIts good news because it means you know patient zero at a point when you have only a couple of hundred likely infectedIf that nursing home with 2 confirmed and 50 suspected is also linked then you already know where 50 of them areWouldve been better to find it a couple of generations ago but its still in the traceable stage|1 This scares me As a nurse with a new but mild cough in a country that isnt testing anyone I am terrified of the people I may kill|0 Nothing suggests this virus will reach upper single digit mortality rate let alone double digit Why are you pulling doomer figures out of nowhere|0 Yet this is important to understand because it shows those who are now acting irresponsibly are part of entirely the problemFTFYSeriously responsible action would have prevented widespread disaster in every single country|0 Yeah so everyones going to get this but wash your hands and be prepared for some changes in lifeWE DONT HAVE ENOUGH TESTS OMG WE CANT TEST PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE GETTING SIC AND WE CANT TEST THEM TO FIGURE IT OUTWhat a fool|0 Women are still typically disproportionately burdened with cleaning If you want to erase the stereotypes maybe start with that|0 Id give you 10 upvotes for that cracked me up Thanks for the laugh|1 Nobody trusts the Iranian government though At least nobody in Iran|1 that time it will be China blocking the world|0 Yeah in my opinion there is nothing edgy in this If your perspective says its edgy maybe it is your problem then I dont really care either way|0 Seeing those numbers makes me look in the mirror and say damn do I have this|0 I remember being told in like 2nd grade a childrens story of a man in China who made the best shoes in China shoes so amazing the emperor wanted a pair In return the man asked for a delivery of rice each day for 100 days starting on day 1 with 1 grain of rice and doubled each day Day 1 1 grainDay 2 2 grainsDay 3 4 grainsDay 4 8 grainsThis seemed like a ludicrously amazing price to the emperorBlah blah blah after a month or so he owned all of China By day 50 that would be 562949953421312 grains of rice|1 Youre wrong|0 True the point of testing has more to do with public health reasons like quarantine and knowing how its spreads It does little for the individual other than protect people around them|1 South Florida No Clorox wipes or hand soaps at the local Publix Plenty of toilet paper though|1 China more on ewalletwechat pay ali pay thing so kinda odd if banknotes Unless if was conform than its okay|0 Something is up for no one to mention the horrific LOGANS RUN future implications of this|0 Rural Southern va so get fukt me lol|1 Sick leave and vacation time are now in one PTO package where I work|0 I feel the exact same I struggle with coworkers saying the media is overhyping the situation while Im wondering why an entire country would shut down their economy over a nothingburger It seems surreal like Im the only one that gets it along with the people on this sub Dept of Defense says an imminent crisis is going to be happening within 30 days Charts and graphs show that at one time China and SK were in the single digits and now are in the thousands It seems to take about 1 month maybe 2 before the real exponential growth shows up and after that And since we are only in our first weeks it feels like business as usual to those around me A consequence of too many news channels crying wolf in the past perhapsMaybe they dont understand exponential growth Maybe people will use hand sanitizer and mitigate the virus with good practices and it will stop spreading before it gets bad And well all laugh at our 60 rolls of TP Or notDoes anyone have any data that helps show why come middle of April the world will be in a different scarier place or conversely something that shows me Im a lunatic and need to calm down From the articlehttpswwwnewsweekcomcoronavirusdepartmentdefensepandemic30days1489876The warning came as part of Thursdays Joint Chief of Staff daily intelligence brief and according to a document obtained byNewsweek officials expect COVID19 will likely become a global pandemic within the next 30 daysOfficials have expected global cases would spread On Tuesday the National Center for Medical Intelligence NCMI raised the Risk of Pandemic warning It went from WATCHCON 2 a probable crisis to WATCHCON 1 an imminent crisis due to sustained humantohuman transmission outside of China according to a report summary obtained byNewsweek|0 Even with the quarantined the virus still is spreading Theyre about delay And in china thats critically important Theyve added a lot of hospital beds and doctors since sars but they are still not enough|0 Try bite fingers and cry|0 This person obviously never dealt with Medicare They dont cover hearing aids dental dentures walkers mobility aids glasses home health and pretty much anything that old people typically need|1 Can I copypasta this lmao|1 You are absolutely allowed to go for a run in the park dude The world isnt suddenly poison|1 In December in the US 13 million people were infected with the seasonal flu and 6600 died 1 in 1969 died The seasonal flu CFR is thus 005 which is 220 times less likely to kill you if you compare it to the 2019nCov CFR 11 from the Lancet study posted today which is cited in another post here|0 Jokes are jokes They arent gonna age poorly There are funny jokes about all kinds of fucked up stuff|1 Yes of course its better but it doesnt mean we should downplay it as nothing It still concerns us personally These deaths should have been avoidable|1 Oh man that is awful I am so sorry We went ahead and bought extra just in case something broke out in my state I really hate this for you|0 The part that gives me pause about the study is that it also reports that smokers were not a higher risk for complications patients and current smokers 14 were rareOther studies have shown that smokers are at a considerably higher risk which makes me question if the sample is representative enough to draw a conclusion on the risks of asthma as comorbidity I dont have the research background to answer that|1 Free coronavirus testing Democratic leaders propose making coronavirus testing free to increase access by requiring private health insurers plus government programs like Medicare and Medicaid to cover the cost of testing including emergency room visits and doctor fees This will also cover Americans without insuranceEmergency paid sick days The bill would give workers 14 days of paid sick leave to be available immediately during the coronavirus many employers are asking employees to work from home for that amount of time It ensures sick leave to those impacted by quarantine orders or those who must stay home to care for their children The bill reimburses small businesses those with 50 or fewer employees for the cost of the 14 additional days of leaveEmergency paid leave The bill would create a new federal emergency paid leave program for those unable to work because they have Covid19 are quarantined are caring for someone with the disease or are caring for a child due to coronavirusrelated school closings Eligible workers would receive benefits for a month the program goes up to three months and the benefit amount would be twothirds of the individuals average monthly earnings Those receiving pay or unemployment compensation directly through their employers arent eligible There is some precedent for this Congress expanded unemployment benefits for up to 99 weeks for Americans left unemployed by the 2008 financial crisisExpanded unemployment insurance The bill would direct 2 billion to state unemployment insurance programs and waive measures like work search requirements or waiting weeks to those either diagnosed with Covid19 or those who have lost their jobs due to the spread of the virusExpanding food security The bill would direct 1 billion to expanding access to programs like SNAP WIC and the emergency food assistance program throughout the coronavirus pandemic Progressive economists have long believed that expanding existing safety net programs is a highly effective way of stimulating the economy because the lowincome people who benefit from them are highly likely to immediately spend any extra money they get helping stabilize economywide demand The 2009 stimulus bill featured many provisions along these lines|1 Psych is also a great show for a rewatch You know thats right|1 Liar scam artists often say mutuallyinconsistent things|0 supermarkets yes In Italy there cant be no more than a certain number of people in some supermarkets I am not sure the constraints are so tough yet in France fastfood I dont think so if you can eat inside but maybe yes if you can take away in my company restaurant you can buy a take away lunch in a bag I still have to go to workpetrol stations yes some people need to go to work and they need to do it by car|1 Now fellas This is not the time or the place to perform some kind of a half ass autopsy on a fish And Im not going to stand here and see that thing cut open and see that little Kitner boy spill out all over the dock|0 I used to hustle cigarettes 20p for a rollie 50p for a straight I made bank|1 Its not because of them being undemocratic look at how the free worlds are responding to this outbreak now they are not better than china in responding to the outbreak Many are not getting tested yet italy spain overwhelmed They silenced the whistle blower but the words already got out before they disappeared yet the free worlds did not do anything Whats the use of a whistle blower if no government is taking them seriously There was a whistle blowing doctor on youtube from a few months back the world heard him before he died yet no one in the free world developed any vaccine whose fault is that for not taking this doctor seriously|0 The reason they dont is if the schools close then many people cant work and if many people arent working the economy tanks even more We are in a damned if we do damned if we dont situation|0 Thats pretty somber being a country thats at 450|1 Yet everyone acts surprised|1 Then why are you here Why are so many Mexicans Guatemalans El Salvadorens here If American doesnt provide opportunity for those who dwell within its borders why are people determined to come here and send remittances back home wherever that may be Trump is a shit bird But America is pretty fucking awesome and you and the rest of Latinamerica know it which is why yall want to comeAll we have to do is drain the swamp of Trump and his cock sucking yes men and put some decent ethical folks in office And America will be Great Again|1 Why are they bothering The Chinese government and their mouthpiece WHO were telling us its all under control now|0 I doubt it will hurt them long term There have been several horror stories several back to back in recent years That norovirus one was gnarley People especially old people wont give up all you can eat for cheap Its a cheap vacation In times of recession many wont be able to afford a vacation but might be able to scrounge up enough change to take a 3 day cruise|0 Thats scary as fuck You know she was in great shape especially cardio|0 Fair point|1 Dont go there Giving public money to private companies that went on to just pay themselves the usual huge bonuses Are you nuts|1 Worst case scenario will be 35 Horrible but not exactly having an impact on global warming and overpopulation|0 Its crazy almost every country is in denial until its too late All we can do is watch a learn but it seems we are not learning The lust for money is greater than the empathy for lives|1 Small government does not necessarily mean budget cuts in fact budget cuts should be the last step in downsizing government when done properlyIn this process deregulation should actually be the first step A pertinent example would be the removal of governmentimposed import barriers for internationallyproduced pharmaceuticals which would make Pharmas current domestic pricegouging completely unprofitable and would thus make medications roundly more accessible to citizenshospitalsThe effect this has on federal budgeting is that when a disaster strikes pharmaceuticals are far cheaper and so more can be purchased for the same amount of money or surplus funding can be allocated to ventilators and other supplies instead If there is far too much surplus funding in one area at the end of the year still then cuts should be consideredThere are other examples of beneficial deregulation of course but Im trying to stay on topic here I just want to make clear that government downsizing can be a beneficial process if done properly which it hardly ever is since its usually attempted by conservatives|1 Remember a new onset cough should isolate for 7 daysjust saying Keep safe though|1 I would like to see this same discussion narrowly focused on the health care system which is starting to show cracks like the CDC in its preparation of both logistical chains and preparation I am not seeing in the US what has been seen in other countries when it comes to segmentation of hospitals PPE training and scaling the expansion of drive thru clinics to keep infection risk away from staff or at home testing we come to you If we have to build more ICU and ventilation capacity like the Chinese did who is going to do that and are those plans ready to go are they shovel ready is the military on notice to build hospitals if we need themI want to read that our healthcare system is on war footing and is ready to beat this thing Thats what I want to see in the US and I do not see that|1 No it was not my money I do not have that amount extra Thank you for your feedback|1 You need a log y scale and align to the first death Then countries look very similar|0 Agreed 100That person you cough near in the toilet paper aisle might even be an exhausted nurse or doctor who had managed to avoid infection thus far Or it might be that person who is taking immune suppression therapy who has no choice but to go and get their groceries Then you have friends and family in that group there may be individuals who are higher risk than you realise because you dont know their full medical history Its not all about you and your personal low risk As a society we need to protect vulnerable citizens Dont be a douchebag|1 Im not the guy you were responding to but collapse is maybe not the right word After the pandemic is over our health care system will be the same as it was before However during the pandemic our system is very likely to reach its capacity this is already starting to happen which renders it largely useless since people wont be able to get the treatment they need This is what happened in Italy and its part of the reason that the case fatality rate in Italy is currently around 3 times higher than the worldwide average|0 Yeah thats what Im worried about We are driving there from Texas on the 28th and am worried about not being able to get things we need on the way and once we arrive We have some provisions as of now but who knows what two weeks from now will look like|1 I have a friend that was making 120k in Ohio He was laid off and was eligible for 432 a week Its abysmal really We are capped at the 432 if you make over a certain amount He had to pay Cobra which is a joke at 1200 Somehow keep up paying his mortgage and all other bills One heath issue and we homeless here Its really easy to become homeless in the US College educated people that have paid into the system and did what they are supposed to do their whole lives This is why I am voting for universal healthcare|1 I am working as An ER doc on the front lines during this pandemicx200BI tried warning on Sunday before the first case in Louisiana On monday we had the first case Now we have 67x200BThere has been many updates on our ability to test since my first post and i do attribute that to my help on reddit and connecting me to the appropriate resourcesx200Bx200BMany people thanked me and i am VERY grateful as i am now in self quarantineHowever I was also met with a lot of anger and actual threats from a few peopleincluding threats I violated hipaa despite the fact did not use any true pt identifiersx200BIm wondering why this type of harsh response when we are only trying to helpThese people can just avoid reading my responses or choose another group to join what benefit is gained by threatening it actually impedes the spread of infox200BIf you have any questions about the current state of Medical affairs in the ERs and hospitals feel free to Personal message me any time If u are a hater please do not message me as I would rather spend my time helping people instead of having an argument with someone|0 Yeah thats the thing there are measures to make sure it happens There will always be some who ignore the rules but then you give them more rules|1 Instead of a million people catching it in the first week collapsing the healthcare system if the spread can be spread out to 100k over 10 weeks the hospitals can cope and the recovered patients can take care of the newly sickSimilar to lunch time in large schools You can have a large group eat all at once with everyone waiting for a seat to eat hopefully before the bell rings and you need to report back to class or you can stagger the lunch times so that as new people arrive the first ones are leaving and heading back to class|1 Trust the practitioner of a cult that preaches no one will ever need to go to hospitals when they get sick if they follow the tenets of Falun DafaOn a sub about an infectious diseaseAre you serious|0 Regular surgical masks are not designed to keep things out theyre designed to protect others from your coughing sneezing etc They catch particulates from your own breathing coughing sneezing and prevent them from spreading in the air to other people If you are currently sick you should wear a mask If you are not sick they dont necessarily protect you as they dont filter the air coming in around the sidesFurthermore if youre unaccustomed to wearing a mask and most people are you actually touch your face more often adjusting it which can increase your risk of catching something Im a volunteer manager at a hospital and we require Volunteers to get a flu vaccine If a Volunteer has an HR approved medical exemption we allow them to continue to volunteer if they wear a mask But the masks dont really do anything so I always feel like were putting those folks at risk |1 Thats how I am hoping it will go|1 well the virus was detected in GreenlandI think it wants to declare checkmate|1 That is what they are told by the only news channel they trust|1 Thank you for your maturity|1 The CDC already has this powerThe President can also declare an emergency and enforce thisNo one wants to fuck around with a virus that can infect up to 14 people while its still dormant in someone|0 But they were quoting the part that said If an individual has to stay home to provide care due to school closings too You dont need a doctors note that your kids school got closed My entire state closed schools for 3 weeks imagine how many of those kids have 2 working parents and need to be watched by somebody|1 I quit yesterday Not trying to be all doom and gloom right now but the situation is rapidly deteriorating I received the news that my mother is being tested NOT in good health and my coworkeronly other person around at the time gets news at the exact same time that his relative was sent in as wellhmmm|0 Keep fighting the good fight This inexplicable hate for traditional healing methods is I dont know It just seems like armchair scientist reddit brigading because its easier to mock something than it is to open yourself to a different possibilityIt always tickles me when they scream about no scientific studies have been done on natural methods and then when you give them scientific studies they either double down and use ridiculous examples that have little to do with the topic at hand or just downvote you into oblivion|0 Can you share this list pleaseEdit I found the list It was not made by the WHO it was made by a thinktank funded by billionaires called the Johns Hopkins Center for Health SecurityThey put USA at number 1 and DPRK at 193 out of 195 Im curious about how they handle their research given the USA was either grossly incompetent or completely unwilling to manage the hurricane katrina crisis or the flint water crisis and have allowed the corona virus to spread mostly unchecked Meanwhile the WHO has constantly been saying how impressed they are with Chinas response number 55 in the GHS index produced by John Hopkins Center for Health Security and also described DPRKs healthcare as the envy of the developing worldEdit2 They also put ROK as number 9 despite the administration sitting around and doing nothing while watching an entire ferry full of school children sinking and all of them drowning|0 I definitely needed this right now Im supposed to be tested tomorrow if they dont run out of kits since Ive been crazy sick for the past few days Still freaked out about this shortness of breath and chest pain|0 gas stations at least some will be an essential industry I expect I assume you have seen the DHS fuel purchase permission form being given to certain industries in NY|1 This is a tough season for NBA stars amid the tragedy of Kobe and a cancelled season I wouldnt expect less that they realize how great they have itGood to see this|0 i think it was more about losing a place to sleep eat live while this is going on|0 So thats whats so cool about being royal|1 I really wonder when she picked this up It sounds like her LA routes were from 119120 Huge possibility she wasnt infected at that time grasping at straws here|1 PCCP82 0 points 1 day ago what they really SHOULD dois signal a 2 week period where everyone STAYS HOME would require the honor system but i think it could workgive everyonei dunno500 dollars to get what you needwould cost 125 billion in direct costsbut that money will just go right back into the economy|1 Who is being tested If theyre only testing people with severe symptoms then the high positive rate makes sense If theyre testing random people then holy fuck|0 Ill find tedros hold on|0 Humanity is at an all time low when you see prices for hand sanizter on amazon go to 1000 USD Luckily I got hand sanitizer before it got too crazy I still had to splurge|1 False dilemma The only two options are deceit or rampant hysteria Please|0 15k to 20k tests a day is fucking nothing for a giant country like america are you fucking with me|1 Well they only just now diagnosed someone who died six days ago Seems likely|0 like nani the fuck Hahaha|1 Hahaha thanks I kept thinking of John 5s birthday he always plays the star spangled banner at his performanceshttpsyoutube2b4aAHSQ2c|1 To get tested in NYC you need to have full blown pneumonia and a note from a person who tested positive saying you kissed them|1 Pretty sure the majority of it is already behind us internationalyGood luck china tho|1 That is reassuring|1 Well I cant say I would blame you for saying that I found this somewhere while searching for coronavirus httpsyoutubegnlym7fuHrYhttpsyoutubegnlym7fuHrY I think its a sad situation but would it be the same government we are talking about here who would be responsible for what is happening there now He did mention something about the government a few mins in as well|1 Arent the refugees still thereThis could be bad if cross spreading happens|0 I did it under prohibited items illegal activity Since price gouging during emergencies is illegal|0 So his career is more important than world safety|1 Yeah it would probably be more believable if they hadnt spent the last century covering their shit up|0 In Australia another case popped up of an infected Dr that has just been diagnosed after returning from the US I believe he was in Denver from the reports|0 Also after reading my response it came off pretty insensitive and for that I apologize I was trying to make a point but it was the wrong way in which do so I truly do wish you and your family the best|1 I believe theyre currently offering whats known as compassionate use This means a request has to be made to Gilead on a case by case basis and if they choose to they will supply remdesivir for the patientEdit I should note I believe theyre also currently running clinical trials but Im not sure about the specifics Gileads website might have more infoEdit2 Compassionate use requests must be submitted by a patients treating physician Gilead is currently assessing requests on an individual basis and require at a minimum that the patient be hospitalized with confirmed COVID19 infection with significant clinical manifestations sourcehttpswwwgileadcompurposeadvancingglobalhealthcovid19|1 Thank you for postingtranslating This sounds like potentially good news|1 The virus intact The researchers take virus The sciencehumans try to grow virus Virus only grows in right conditions and in cells The researchers cry because the virus not grow But they happy when it grows Having multiple viruses grow and multiplying themselves helps in getting a vaccinetreatmentsDo you understand this language Or should I explain like youre 1|1 Thank you That is good news that materials are still being extracted without too much effect Im not sure what your uncle is pulling but do you know if theyve had any issues post extraction Are the logistics engines turning full steam to get those materials to refinement and fabrication Or have they been going all 737 max and its sitting in the parking lot|1 This dude laid it out for you like a three year old and youre still not grasping|1 Oxygen is treatment Antivirals and other meds are showing some promise Of course nothing is FDA approved yet Thats not the same as doctors literally throwing their hands up and tossing you out on the streetVery little treatment for viruses Tell that to Magic Johnson Tell that to my pediatrician who would provide Tamiflu in a heartbeat if my disabled child had a positive influenza test|1 Are you saying if you have cold like symptoms you should stay inside Isolating for common cold symptoms may be a little OTT but Id expect any decent person with a cold to not cough and sneeze all over other people coronavirus or no coronavirus|0 How about all the people too broke to have a regular GP I empoyee 50 part time employees many of which probably dont have insurance or a regular General Practitioner they see Is there a government related testing standard How should I direct them Im worried about my people|0 At least now my friends have a valid reason|1 Nice|1 I have a question about the corona virus How long can it love on surfaces of products andor their packaging Is it possible for covid19 is spreading through the consumer shipping industrySorry if this is the wrong place for this|1 So I suppose to many this is a silver lining in all the horror But I truly wish we couldve made necessary reforms before potentially suffering tens of thousands of deaths or personally dying too|0 I live in Lombardy going out everyday and Im as healthy as ever Im starting to believe I must have a great immune system High five to my immune system |1 Hi Mr GatesIm here in ShenZhen China and it seemed like social distancing and community efforts to wear masks help slow the spread of the virus Do you think that some of the steps made here in China could be implemented in the West Follow up questionHere in China we had to scan into businesses to keep track of our whereabouts in case we were in the same area of someone that tested positively Could that type of system be implemented in the States without violating civil liberties|1 This is a notifiable disease so they would be legally required to report it to CDC As you say though the reporting interval to the CDC and from CDC conforming and reporting to the public is unknown The CDC backlog is known to be considerable|1 Wow I literally couldnt care less|1 Working on the goddam engines|0 Like mens nipples|1 Dont forget wash your phone Hope its waterproof or you have disinfectant at least No point washing your hand if you dont wash your phone|1 I always have 10 bags of whole beans at home I buy when on sale Also why no one talking about booze I mean really|0 I live in Provo I needed to get food last night at Walmart all toilet paper is gone water etc Not too many people in the store either Im glad to see my fellow neighbors taking this seriously and taking the necessary precautions |1 Agreed|1 I thought our administration couldnt continue to sink any lower but this has to be a new rock bottom I regularly am embarrassed that Im the same species and worse live in the same nation as some of these people|0 My family had something like that back in January We were miserable and I still remember the coughing Nothing I did helped my throat My mother in law thought it was the flu but it didnt seem like the flu to me Felt like a mix of the flu and a cold|0 Hopefully the power doesnt go out|1 Dried beans and rice are easy to justify Prepping is just buying a few more of the things you would need already Luckily most goods are also reasonably priced|1 Yeah most places are significantly limiting visitors due to risk of spread Might be the one break nurses get cut But all the other work will more than make up for the lack of families at bedside|0 Courage|1 After how the NHS has been shafted over the last 10 years Im sure they will|1 Likely the extra 14 from the Diamond Princess getting included in the counts|1 I think my mom realized it was really bad when Tom Hanks announced he was sick with it|0 Youre amazing |1 This is not a subreddit about China Its a subreddit about Coronavirus which is a WORLD problem China is where it originates and clearly the most affected but that doesnt make this a sub about ChinaFrom the sub description This subreddit seeks to monitor the spread of this potential global public health threatIts rChinaFlu not rChina|0 We have Patty Hajdu talking and she has extensive experience as a graphic designer and art therapist at a shelter And if her expertise fails we have that guy who grew a beard Were covered politicallyYou can thank your fellow Canadians for voting in a PM that doesnt bring people in based off of merit but rather what boxes are checkedIm assuming you probably voted for someone different|1 I think that could be more a realization that they have no plan for an outbreak or pandemic situation rather than coronavirus specific I know this situation has inspired many to get their affairs in order when it comes to a pandemic situation I dont personally think this virus is the big one but it has reminded us of the implications a big one like the Spanish Flu a century ago could result in|1 Lots of rumours circulating that Ontario or at least Toronto will be effectively shut down as of Wednesday morning|1 Ill be more generous and call it trying to walk the line between the economic damage of a widespread action Because quarantine procedures do hurt the economy and thats got knock on impacts Austerity has killed people too But Im also a bit cynical that our lords and masters are thinking exactly what you say they just dont want to say it out loud|0 It was the same behaviour that led to the greatest famine in human history during Maos time too You think theyd have learned better |1 To be clear this doesnt suggest that suppression will stop all deaths It will just substantially reduce them I dont say that to be morbid I just want to point out that all scenarios modeled in this report result in some deaths But yes suppression until vaccination is the scenario likely to cause the least amount of deaths I think there are very practical mitigation techniques outlined in this report that show promising potential and are sustainable On onoff schedule of home quarantine sickquarantining and social distancing can reduce fatalities by at least a factor of 5|1 Those people get the keep it Employees keep thrir bonuses management and up doesntWe also have a decent base salary A bonus is just thata bonus|1 Well this is a membrane coated virus that makes it vulnerable to surfactants drying out oxidation ect So hard surfaces would tend to extend the survivability especially if associated with mucus while things like paper which absorb moisture would tend to speed up destruction Some metals also have biocidal activity particularly things with copper or silver in them|0 Its no way you can get actual figures from this web because there are so small number of people had taken the virus test plus the figures provided by Chinas authority are absolutely fake much much undercounting the actual infected ppl|0 that would be crazy considering we havent blocked the borders of american citizens coming from italy or other affected areas that probably wont happen with canada|0 ot but lol youre tagged reasonable contributor how does that come about is it something some moderator does or an award from another user or something you do yourself|1 I am moderatehigh risk and I cant afford to not work I dont have health insurance and I dont know what Im going to do if work shuts down or I get sick I could probably swing 2 weeks if I had to but there will definitely be long term financial consequences I cant voluntarily stay home for 2 weeks only to be mandated to stay home for another 2 weeks The worst part is there are far far more people in a worse situation than I am|0 Chicago has one too but you are still required to see your primary doctor first in order to get cleared for getting the test which is kinda contradictory in concept|0 Right agreed but I mean Wuhan at their peak level of infected|0 There are a lot of perfect storm type variables happening with this thing|1 Im lambasting that idiotic claim from the mod|0 what a joke its like they know you have it but cant tell you now because they dont want to load their hospitals|1 I can tell you in at least one countryin Europe where they are in lockdown walks are still permitted as long as people are either alone or with the people they live with Group walks are not allowed I wish I could remember which country this was but I can tell you it was discussed on Dr John Campbells YouTube in recent daysI myself have been walking daily with some precautions based on a lot of reading of public health websites and the like I use a paper towel to open the main door of my apartment building then I throw it away immediately in a nearby trashcan I could also use hand sanitizer but I want to preserve that for when I really need itI avoid coming close to other people and take care not to touch anything I use my elbow to hit the crosswalk buttons I live in a residential area with a retail area nearby in a mediumsized city so there are people around but its understandably quiet out There are other people walking thoughUpon returning Im careful to open the front main door with my key and my elbow I dont wear my shoes back into my apartment The first thing I do after I take off my shoes and coat is wash my handsModerate exercise boosts our immune systems and the psychological stress of staying indoors all the time takes a toll that could have health impacts It also helps me sleep better which is important to immune system health as well I will keep up with my walks as long as I can|1 Show up like Jude Law in Contagion|0 Its almost like its an infectious disease or something|1 And funny that Apple knew about the whole scenario and did Jack shit because the company is run by a bunch of heartless jerks|0 First I like your username a lot Second I trust no one in this situation My statement above was meant to illustrate my own belief that neither the scientists nor the politicians are covering themselves in glory so farEdit I also had no intention of demonizing or glorifying Sanders Trump individuals associated with the CDC or any other individual I refer to Sanders statement but I wouldve had the same response no matter who was quoted|1 Yeah man but uscrubslover1 is right Viral pneumonia or hell intubationventilation even without lung injury can put you at risk of bacterial pneumonia Just look up VAP or ventilator associated pneumonia|0 Tell the truth Test In the ER and everywhere for free Drivethrough testing stations Drafting retired nurse and respiratory care specialists and give a path for them to renew their licenses Building out temporary hospitals in public spaces inadvance Using contract tracing and actual testing to stop the outbreak rather than denials and calling it a hoax Stop all large public gatherings Remote school classes for every area with 1 case with lots of testing in ERs Create a quarantine fund to pay out everyone who is quarantined for 4 weeks make it easy painless and automatic when you get a failed test Interestfree 24 month loans for all quarantined businesses These businesses are healthy lets not let them die due to a temporary circumstance Create a department dedicated to sourcing as many ventilators as possible by reconditioning broken ones uplicensing old ones offlabel ones researching ways to repurpose ones veterinary ones Pay out all coronavirus related medical expenses In highly infected areas temporary quarantine Create a volunteer corps charged with registering and collecting convalescent plasma for treatment Create another volunteer corps with a testing regime to allow the uninfected or totally recovered to source food for the elderly Publicize the best known standard treatment regimens Create a telemedicine web page where doctors can address home treatment Clear all legislation in every state that prevents home food drug and alcohol delivery Conference with the major credit card companies and create legal means for signatureless payments in all cases Source surgical masks for everyone They arent that hard to make They do help stop the spread Studies have shown this Create the vaccine factory capacity inadvance for the 3 leading candidates Yes the factory might sit idle but once something is ready be ready to go from 0 to 90 miles an hour Same for therapeutics that look promising It looks like chloroquine can shave 45 days off the average ER stay Also Camistat may be promising Hire chemists and manufacturing and build out our capacity here so we dont have to depend on sourcing a foreign supply Create several billiondollar industry prizes for drug companies that produce therapeutics and vaccines All applicable jobs that can be done remotely must be done remotely Set up a system to enforce violations Massive education campaign on social distancing and hygiene Wash hands frequently Cover your mouth with a tissue or elbow when you coughIf we slow this down we can flatten the curve of people showing up at the ER and save a lot of lives This is what Id do if I was presidentedit added suggestions in comments|1 They have to walk a pretty fine line Im sure good stuff that shouldnt gets deleted But overall if you allow the kind of political conversations that people wanna have nobody gets to talk about anything else and it evolves into a Monkeys throwing shit show|1 I would love a source on the trumps having shares in the company making the test|1 People have a very wrong idea about Chinesestyle lockdown Chinese style lockdown is not welding doors shut for all its not how it works and not the better solution either Videos of crude methods were viral on Chinese social media because those were considered over the line and mismanagements not a common occurance Just like not every Italian were left with the dead bodies of their family for days Those were the crazy incidents that shouldnt have happenedBasically in China every city every neighborhood has different policy of lockdown and some only includes checking temperate at gate and not allowing visitorswhich my parents experienced The strictest method was in Wuhan after MidFebruary and before that Wuhanians could travel within the district buy food and medicine some still go to work or help but there were no public transportationsThe lockdown wasnt announced beforehand and people didnt stock on food at all If you lock millions of people in their apartment for a week more people will starve to death before catching virus Its not even logical I dont know how people would believe that Wuhan did it after mid Feb only with the food donation from other provinces and volunteers to deliver food to people Thats simply impossible on a larger scaleTheres no line between communist brutal useful lockdown and democratic loose lessuseful lockdown|0 I had this feeling a long time agolots of us had a very long time to understand the grand scale of this situation and to mentally prepare ourself The world wasntSTILL isnt ready for the mental toll that will be taken We who saw it early have prepared and are ready to start whenever the rest of society wakes up Let us know|1 Will they provide free gaming as part of looking out for the people during the pandemic Ummm maybe not|1 Fantastic design The color scheme is great too|1 Please do not postcomment links to your discord server You can check out our official discord server in the menu tabI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The majority of cases of the current strain are mild Doesnt mean individual experiences like this nurses cant happen The guy works in a hospital which is exactly where youre not going to see mild cases only severe ones|0 Obviously if the virus got out of control across multiple regionsthe entire nation it would be bad but surely that goes without saying|1 Its just for boosting immune system I guess|1 Lets see it compared to the flu|0 Its not going to kill people how you think it is Seriously Stop overreacting the mortality rate is incredibly low more so if youre young and healthyStop panicking|0 Oh man i feel ya That is one of those jobs where this virus can mess it up The one thing i can tell you is the purpose of the quarantine isnt permanent A lot of people are thinking in terms of Hollywood where we will be quarantined for years This isnt the case China who has been on lockdown has seen dramatic improvements and they were the origin Obviously save as much a as you can but we live in amazing age South Korea who got hit hard had a 7 death rate and is doing fine Dont expect this to be a year long thing|1 Sorry but west is going to assume the death of seniors and continue producing no matter what|0 Trump may be about to redeem himself There are worse things than having a germophobe in charge at a time like this|0 Yeah this is crazy noticed that from day one The world is burning to the ground in front of us and we just continue on |0 Bruh Germany has the same amount of cases but everybody is still saying its just a flu and its no reason to stay at home Thats what german workschool ethics get you A pandemic|0 I wonder if this is a threshold exposure situationMaybe in Hubei you had very slow spread much longer than initially thought and once you have enough infected people spreading the disease the average person can hit the threshold viral level to get sickIts also possible that they just havent looked into these patients long enough and theyre on the long end of incubating|0 My dad worked with a lot of celebrities I the 80s but Tom Hanks was definitely the kindest all around He wasnt really famous yet and the movie they were shooting promos for completely bombed but he was just so kind to everybody in the room|1 Give em a proper English welcome|1 If they ignore this plea its fucking intentional Thats cause for criminal|0 Walmart announced they will be using space on their parking lots for drivethru testing Theyre everywhere and most Americans have one within a half hour of their home Hopefully theyll get the tests in order to pull this off Target and Walgreens CEOs Quest Diagnostics Roche Diagnostics LabCorp CVS are all in and speaking on this in order to get testing provided and processed Also have home care service CEOs discussing elder care protocol I aint mad at the corporate responseIm actually kind of impressed so far IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEYRE SAYING|1 So in essence coronavirus is relatively much more lethal than flu to young population than it is to old population|0 thats yesterdays total Daily totals were around 39 41 36 133 for the last few days Should get new daily total for last 24h from Italy soon I expect 100 sadly So many people losing parents and grandparents and its only going to get worse|0 I took an online chem class I had to order a kit that contained all the chemicals and tools I needed to take the class I had to follow the instructions given It was super terrible and I was realllllllllly bad at chemistry This class taught me nothing except that I suck at chemistry|0 You mean one subverting the expectation of competent writing|1 dont worry about the fire until its grown big enough that we cant stop it dont get a flu vaccine until January why get it early|1 Nah Im totally gonna badmouth the guy who slashed funding to the CDC and dismantled the pandemic response team a couple years ago|0 If you think there arent countries worse off then America you have another thing coming Western centrism is just as bad as American centrism The whole world does not operate the same |0 Thank you|1 Rather selfish of him|0 This happens in many countries not only China the difference between China and some African failed state is that the Chinese have travelling capacities some lost village in the middle of Africa gets something like this half of them die rest become immune and you never even hear about itNot saying its something thats sanitary or anything but its more common than we think sadlyTheres a reason why all these plagues are originating from China and also Africa|0 Dick Cheney was president for 8 years|0 Shes cut from a different cloth than you or I|0 Whod have thought Best not to worry about ongoing events Id keep an eye on these past events Its true Every bad event is a past event makes you think|1 Quarantine is essential Id support prison if thats really what it took to convince the general population that we were fucking seriousNote im normally an extreme libertarian politically but onceacentury pandemics kind of make me put that world view on hold Too much risk for the overall population if a few selfish people go rogue early in the outbreak|0 I was one of those people that totally thought blacks being thugs was a racist stereotypebut then one day a black man knocked me over and stole my bagI was one of those people that totally thought jews being greedy was a racist stereotypebut then one day a jewish man tried to scalp me tickets at an insane priceBut its okay to say something like this because theyre Chinese Reddits mental gymnastics to justify racism against Chinese people is astounding Also Reddits worship of science goes out the window too because apparently anecdotal evidence becomes fact when were trying to prove that Chinese people are badIts also stunning because a lot of the stereotypes attributed to Chinese culture apply perfectly to AmericansIf i cant have it no one can or if something bad happened to me it should happen to everyoneDescribes a vast swathe of the American population on topics like universal healthcare or free tuition|1 If LA has its dreaded BIG one while this is going on its going to be hell|0 But we arent using it Therein lies the problem|0 Right comparing Ebola to Corona is a bit of a stretch Ebola whole crazy deadly canbe easily avoided problem with a lot of areas where there are outbreaks are the extreme poverty education gaps and lack of hygiene|0 Yeah I work at a zoo Which thankfully is closed to the public now and I still have to go in every day to take care of the animals|1 Finally some good news|1 Why would a judge consider masks a necessity if none of the health authorities on western countries that I know of have recommended their usage|1 Barring some miracle that makes this thing mutate and go away I think were in for a bumpy few weeks in Asia at least maybe monthsHighest official Chinese are saying it is indeed mutating but in a worse way Chinas health minister Ma Xiaowei has warned it already seems to be mutating jumping from human to human much quicker than at first He said his country which has taken draconian steps to control its spread was entering a crucial stage httpswwwnzheraldconzworldnewsarticlecfmcid2objectid12305211|0 Uh hand washing is absolutely the best way to protect yourself duuralso dont touch your eyes mouth or stick fingers in your ears nose or anus Dont pick scabsWhat else should people do in the absense of proper testing and lack of information Write your congress representative|1 Why doesnt Winnie the Poo just tell people the real numbers Also wouldnt it be smarter to put more energy into preventing and treating victimsinfected than to put so much energy into hiding and crematoriums|0 The other risks arent gonna take a break because there is a pandemic that whataboutism is pretty useless cancer and all that crap wont suddendly stop existing and needing treatment with already overfilled hospitals this should not be taken lightly|0 Its not dismissive at all Young people dying is a tragedy Cancer is a tragedy COVID19 is a tragedy Its important we dont catastrophize every single bit of data that comes our way The subreddit is full of people flying off the handle with crushing anxiety at every single piece of news theyre exposed to and a lot of it is poorly sourced anecdotal exaggerated or misinterpreted Worried is good Cautious is good Predicting the imminent collapse of society with each new headline is probably counterproductive|0 yet they manage to control it while us people even though they know shit will hit the fan but they cant do anything except waiting for the shit to hit them and just hope they dint die from the virus|0 Chinese people still need visas to travel and vice versa Unless ending globalization means shutting down your borders nothing is changing Especially since all the cheap tech everyone likes cant be made in any of our countries lest the prices go up by 100 at least|1 Heh i feel this same way have an upvote Seems no one can think logically and independently on their own|0 Cruise ships should be banned|0 Not around here Governor directed state shut down but with few exceptions he is choosing not to enforce it Big mistake Tons on nonessential businesses still open including the one I work for Deeply religious area either thinks they are immune their faith will protect them or it is a government conspiracy Big antivax community Youve got to enforce here People will not self police It is going to be a disaster around these parts when it hits|0 Sounds like a really good approach to diet|1 And the machinery that processes and packages the food And parts for the vehicles that transport it Oooh dont forget the refrigeration units at the producer distributor and store levels|1 Yet another PSA remember that alcohol is inflammable Just saw someone setting their coat on fire after sanitizing their hands and then lighting a cigarette This really shouldnt have to be said people|0 Id do it just to help the rest of humanity|1 thank you I take it back had to use a vpn to access any source all links censored here in the EU|1 About time honestly|1 Needs Taiwan there with a big bowl of stinky tofu|0 HiI am trying to find data regarding mortality and amount of those getting critical crossed with age and location Can anyone help me|1 Not really Coronavirus related as they were in trouble last year Maybe the lack of sales and cancellations have tipped the balance|0 Ahh got ya Was confused before so thank you|1 Dont forget lack of resources We dont have enough resources to handle even the most optimistic scenario of the predicted outbreak at the rate were going|1 LMAO at all the antimask knowitalls on this sub Its as if some of you wrote your doctorate thesis on the costs and benefits on wearing a mask during a viral pandemic|1 I hope they recover quickly A couple from Knoxville was also just reported infected on that ship well the wife was so far the husband is still negative It was reported that it was highly likely that they contracted it from a porter delivering their meals who tested positive httpswwwwatecomnewselizabethtoncouplenotamongamericansleavingcruiseshipafterwifetestspositiveforcoronavirusutmmediumsocialutmsourcefacebookWATE6OnYourSide|1 The old system wasnt designed for this An event this large needs the private sector to come in and monetize it in order to maximize profits|1 Ya I misread I guess the 44 number came from my cases and not deaths My bad|1 My mom watches them too and she is 85 She doesnt have any medical conditions I told her to stock up on canned food She at least listened to me about it Unlike most other people who dont take it seriously She lives in 55 community and most of the people have a lot of medical conditions Hopefully it misses them|1 I appreciate your sharing and understand how frustrated it is for you right now I dont think you are panic You were sick and wanted to be taken care of Nothings wrong with thatIf possible please consider requesting some days off and stay at home If things are not improving please go to hospital again in a few days If you can wear a mask when you go outside or come into contact with your family members itd help prevent potential spreading if there is any Not untill Germany took more serious measure it is your best interest to do by yourself I hope its just a cold and you will recover from your current symptoms soon|1 Gov Cuomo says wife son daughter neighbor of COVID19 patient in Westchester have all tested positive for the disease bringing NY cases to 6 Tweet publisher megtirrell|1 Im no expert but from what Ive read so far the coronavirus doesnt mutate as easily as the influenza virus They talked about this in the last TWiV podcast and all the experts mentioned how unlikely this is|0 rthedivision looks like the first dark zone is going up|1 SMART|1 Thanks buddy yeah I think its for the best its cancelled Oh well I will go and see Norway next year|1 He says use your arm Fucking fantastic|1 Most people anywhere are going to assume its the common cold or common flu Until their grandpas dead|0 Always seem to get more no matter what Ive got Last run tomorrow I swear |0 I have been prepping in secret masks and etc and told my parents not to tell anyone as there is no benefit whatsoever1 they either laugh at you2 or they know you have supplies and if shit goes down I dont want them to start begging or worse yet robbing me|0 My friend and her husband did the same yesterday for her dads 70th Its like come the fuck on people|1 Yea you know the guy Trump picked to run his state department Well given he had to go through like 3 others who gave up trying to work for him|1 I would count you as a healthcare professional Many thanks for your service and helping identify diagnose|1 Are many people in that industry are under contract In America service industry workers are basically treated as part time employees even if they work full time and get little to no benefits|1 I dont think that guys advice is very good I spray cars and a bunch of my friends do too None of us have multiple p3p100 masks and none of us scrape the paint off We would certainly never give our masks away They cost hundreds of dollars and the filters are expensive too We all have one half face for sanding and one full face for painting If any of us have multiples they are going to our family None of these are washable The prices for these have gone astronomical so nobody is letting their respirator out of their sight I bought a new full face two years ago and it was 160 3M ff403 Now they are impossible to get and at least three times that price We are having trouble getting filters too for our sanding masks p3p100 though luckily most of the voc filters come with a thin prefilter that does n95p2 Were having to use those that are built up in the bottom of the drawer nowIf you came anywhere near my property asking for masks you would not be received well Most of the industry is straight up pissed that they cant get their PPE to do their jobs Luckily I changed jobs a few years back and just do it on the side now So I wont be doing it for a while because I dont want to take filters away from guys who need them to work|1 My husband and I got really involved with the show but I stopped after they killed Glenn Steven Yeun just didnt have the heart for it after that|0 clarify how thats good news|1 bro theres literally hundreds of asymptomatic people in the japan cruise alone|0 Poison Control needs to stay out of the way and let Darwinism protect our future gene pool from these idiots|0 This is why Im going to workout home Im kinda sad cause I havent been to the gym in a year I finally bwas going to go back as I want to lose all this fat on me but its not worth it due to virus risk|0 So I just discovered thiswhile on a flight to the UK I seemed to be one of a few that purchased inflight WiFi To say the least the news has spread amongst our metal tube quite fast people are freaking out nervous scared|0 He did a pretty shitty job with all of those He practically abandoned Puerto Rico did nothing to slow NKs nuclear program and actually sped up Irans nuclear program|0 Agencies in government are only as effective and efficient as their leadershipWhen you fail to staff an agency of government at all appoint people to leadership positions whose interest is in hamstringing the agency they are supposed to lead appoint sycophants friends pals and yes men to leadership positions drive lifers away drive an antiscience agenda and try to defund the agency surprise its not going to function efficientlyWe also havent had a pandemic here in years They must be doing something rightEdit compare the FEMA responses to Katrina vs Sandy One had competent management the other not so much|1 This is one small comfort|1 Trump Feb 10Now the virus that were talking about having to do you know a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat as the heat comes in Typically that will go away in April Were in great shape though We have 12 cases 11 cases and many of them are in good shape nowYeah hes being fed a lie too|1 At least two labs one in New York and one in Albany have had CDC approval to test since February 29th|1 Has he stopped posting on Twitter or something|0 Sorry this is not as big a deal as its made out to be Monkey attacks are ridiculously common in South and SE Asia Monkeys will attack any and every untended area especially if theres food Having fewer people helps but you dont need apocalyptic desertion to have some place occupied by monkeys|1 Why do you think something else should happen Were not quarantine all travelers and its been shown that the screening doesnt work perfectly so what did you expectx200Bx200BWhy would the airport staff be wearing masks masks are for sick people to stop spreading not to protect people from sick peoplex200Bx200BYoure lucky you have enough privilege to to spend 2 weeks in a hotel|0 I knew you are Cantonese when I heard that funny accent|1 Yes it would But Trump is the God Emperor If the virus attacks him itll be the virus that ends up being converted Coronavirus will be wearing MAGA hats|1 Chinas data is a result of Chinas strict measures and it is very effectiveI dont think nowhere can do the lockdown as good as China as long as you take it very seriously|1 if youre being sarcastic please add s to end that people know it is sarcasm|0 Is that murder or manslaughter|0 Its not an overreaction When your gut ruptures you get sepsisIts just a side effect of a huge infection|1 abuse pas|0 Lol|1 taly has been sending most mild cases home to selfquarantine without testingI had been wondering about that Do you have any source you could share Im wondering why the selfquarantine hasnt worked in Italy They didnt start early enough|1 Thats what they want you to believe comrade|1 Well hopefully it was Covid and that you hopefully had it and are then probably immune Eventually youll be able to do serology to check whether it wasSome under 30 have died but there are 160000 cases Modern communication makes it very hard to grasp the significance of these anecdotes|1 lol dont think he meant that it is just these people are going to see you as selfish prick for not sharing even you had warned them to prep they laugh at you|0 Meh|0 I love the watchmen quote Awesome movie and it perfectly fit this scenario lolFor those who are not awarehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDTtETj3MtzA|1 Phew thank god the 300 markup was already there prior to the outbreak |1 its actually true they put out the message to their state owned enterprises overseas in January to buy up all the PPE and ship it back to China Now theyre attempting to dangle it in front of countries who are in crisis of their making as a propaganda opportunity the evil is off the charts |0 Tbh I think its best that they keep the schools open and people limit their direct contact with elderly people We have so many ways to keep in touch with elderly relatives now to ensure they do not feel alone However childcare is disgustingly high and to place that burden on parents who still have to work is really not a great idea it will cause more long term issues than perhaps this virus does|0 Hiv positive then|1 Yeah I feel like China or rather the article writer was specifically directing this at us considering most countries have healthcare covered and the US does not in most cases|1 You are right it is possible to get through but they arent doing it to flatout stop cases they are doing it to limit the amount of cases at any given time by extending the amount of time the virus is aroundHere in the United Kingdom the scientists who advise the government say that it wouldnt be desirable to stop all the population getting the virus theyd rather limit it so people get the virus get better and become immune to it thus meaning at its peak it has less of an impact on the health systemIts less about flat out stopping the spread as much as being able to track and manage it in this scenario|1 Even though Jesus is a made up character I really want him to show up and call these people out the leaders for the blatant abuse of their followers and the followers for their ignorance of the obvious and then smite them like they have never been smitten before what ever that is|0 My favorite part of that was the clear contradiction of the medical professionals who spoke just before he made that statement The blind will forget if they are still alive at the end of this Democrat Hoax|1 Think Japanese MAGA But in reality just based on some sore losers after WWII existing as a splinter cell Theyve been doing the black toyota van and megaphone thing for decades|0 httpswwwbusinessinsidercompresentationushospitalspreparingformillionsofhospitalizations20203amptwitterimpressiontrueYoure acting like most the people here havent based their entire opinion on this around expert testimony and actual data Thats why were freaking out Reality is freaking us out|0 I remember he got laughed at in 2012 by Obama and the media for saying that Russia was a threat to us|0 wow we need to counter this disinformation Thanks for sharing I posted this to counter narrative sub too|1 Somebody needs to just absolutely go off on this situation on TV somewhere where it can all be heard Have few of these tweeets that are out there and just scream it out the Government need their feet held to the fire|0 It says theyre also paying the contractors too So this is a good move by facebook|1 The longer you delay extreme measures the longer the economical fallout|0 I used to support AirBnbThen I come to the realization of their horrible refund policy and lockin once you have bookedWebsites like BookingcomhttpsBookingcom may by 1020 more expensive per day By you will be able to do full refunded cancellations within a period of time Furthermore hotels provide consistent service and it would be good to support those official businesses Of course I did have many interesting and wonderful stays eg free drive around tours of wineyards by an AirBnb owner But the sad thing is that this is provided by the owner and AirBnb is mostly leeching off their work|1 I know its hilarious especially how cocky health officials were on the news when it was just starting to hit the mainstream media They were so overconfident I hope a lot of people end up getting fired but they wont|1 My company had a discussion like a month and a half ago If you want to work from home work from home we already work from home a lot If your sick please dont come in If youre working remote for whatever reason lets just work out alternatives for meetings and client interactions No BSI dont know why this is something we need to think about My boss is like 60 and is one of the smartest and chillest dudes I know No idea why other companies didnt talk about this and are not allowing remote work Smh|1 The Democratic party nominee will either be a 77yearold man who often loses his place in the middle of a sentence or a 78 year old man who suffered a heart attack this year x200BWheeeee|0 Well the House relief bill included a provision almost exactly like this though only 23rds salary so its not terribly hard to imagineThe primary difference being that the companies paying their employees would have to pay out that 23rd up front and then get it back next yearAnd since the senate said theyre going to pass it unchanged and Trump said he would sign itwell yeah I guess I can imagine something like that in the US|1 The hospitalisation rate is 20 percent When the hospitals fill the death rate will sky rocket from lack of treatment|0 Shared toilets As some studies have shown the virus could also be in gutsfeces A toilet flush would make the droplets airborn|1 I didnt mean to absolutelyThere are some big differences between nations the population is one of them that what I was implyingTheyre in a great position to make such changes with minor consequences but not every nation can unluckily|1 You cant do what you did and conclude anything from a sample that is biased ie from only severely sick people coming to hospitals to get tested and those same severely sick people dying You simply dont know if its over or under estimated Those other studies tried to adjust for the bias using other data We do have a sample that is not prone to sampling bias That sample is on board the Diamond Princess where everyone gets tested no matter the severity of symptoms As of today there are 6 out of 711 people with disease died ie around 1 for now That is the number to keep track of not the cases in China|0 I put a bit of mineral oil in there before pouring water to create a film that prevents water evaporation|1 This isnt just an old people disease If I remember right the first guy in Italy was a 38 year old healthy marathon runner IMHO thats not old|1 who will deal with the riots|0 No worries Confidence intervals are confusing I was literally just explaining the different between 95 CIs for observed data versus for mean to some STEM PhD students last week|0 This is so awesome to read i was getting so sick of all the end of the world comments on reddit from nihilistic people It fuels alot of anxiety Deep down i feel the same we are human fucking kind We survived alot of worse shit And we will more in the future Sure these times are scary but together we will fuck up anything that stands in our way Especially it means we cannot enjoy our kapitalistic way of life Corona your days are numbered|0 We have been shaky for a long period of time Something has finally shown up to tip that first domino Things are going to be ugly at the hospitals here soon|0 Thanks to all the volunteers|1 Youd still not be rich |0 God Damn It Piggy|0 Its not a blame game Publicly announcing CHINA DID THIS TO US doesnt magically remove coronavirus from your country Right now the question is about how your authorities handled the outbreak which is atrocious The CDC and emergency organizations exists for this very reasonregardless of China or not and they cant even handle it properly and efficiently Handled it the best they could is certainly not true America have only recently started testing at a very small scale nonetheless when literally China themselves have told the world the situation is chaos on January 23rd Instead of comparing your country to China try Italy Singapore or South Korea See how youve handled it the best they couldChina being patient zero isnt a valid excuse for being incompetent|1 Oh wow Thank you so much for sharing that information|1 I dont mean to sound stupid and unaware but does this mean their are 2 coronaviruses going around or is it just the same one under a new name|0 Thank you to the businesses feeding kids and thinking about more than themselves In times like this its a bleeding to see others give open heartedly|1 So much freedom of speech yeah first they came for your stupid jokes|1 So theres a chance is what youre saying|1 Yay we cured 500 people overnight s|1 more than complaining on reddit|0 They havent declared it yet cause it requires then to do their damned job|0 lol nahimagines a virus riding on an Oxygen molecule|1 The only help I want to give is dissolution of their government and liberation of the people I will never support a government that shoots people in the back trying to leave|1 Most hospital workers got sick because its very very hard to follow protocol continuously keep from touching your face keep from touching your gloves to a part of your clothing and then touching that same spot 6 hours later when you are offduty and then rubbing your eyes when tired Much less make sure your mask is fitted properlyYou only have to screw up once|0 Most likely not So sad|1 My wife and I are going to stay inside and avoid all extra human contact at all costs Apparently weve been prepping for this for the past 10 years|0 We must remember that though most of us are young we dont have invincible immune system|0 they cant control what people call itthey can try but they will fail|0 Actually no offense but you could die its not likely but happens especially if you find no place in the hospital|0 Sound like you just described the US but speak of CCP Hmm strange coincidence|0 No off topic political comments|0 You can be infected with no symptoms for two weeks|0 How safe is to be breathing in 3D printing materials|1 I figured the supply line for essentials and postal services would have had the highest priority in being secured I imagine people would be able to have necessities delivered to doorstep by Amazon|1 The NextDoor app even has a prewritten message you could share or edit however you wish Its a heart emoji with the text help a neighbor in need underneath it If you click on it this is the message it gives to share Hi neighbors I know this is an uncertain time so wanted to offer a helping hand Id be happy to run an errand for anyone who needs extra help Dont hesitate to comment below or message me And if you can offer help to neighbors in need comment below with how |1 Fuck yourself|0 Principle of Schrdingers virus states that we are both simultaneously infected and not infected thus no need to panicBut yea we are screwed here in the UShttpsimgurcomabEUBn7HrR2JdWwhttpsimgurcomabEUBn7HrR2JdWw|0 The regret is real|0 I have chronic low o2 sat due to scoliosishttpsimgurcomaIX4j49X one lung is smaller and sleep apnea Always freaks em out when they take my o2 sat levels|0 Nah man it will probably be some billionaire who donated whats peanuts to them when it was already way too late|0 Do people realise South Korea is basically an island 34ths of the land is attached to the ocean and their single boarder is with North Korea which doesnt allow any immigration to South Korea South Korea has banned all flights from foreign countries so no immigrants a coming by plane This story means very little compared to nations like the USA which has humongous boarders where both legal and illegal immigrants cross everyday|0 FUCK HRThey dont care about employees only the company that hired em|0 Im sorry if this is morbid but I think we passed that line a week or so ago I wonder how many of these people will just start offing themselves over the edge for a quick death vs the other possible option Just so sad|0 Not a mask in sight generally seems westerners are more afraid of negative social stigmas over personal protection|0 Only the true messiah denies his divinity|1 One thing to note about Korean eating is that they share dishes Every Korean meal in a group shares germs with each other So that night explain the spread in that region|1 Hes saying that these numbers indicate that a total of 1600 cases have reached their conclusion 1000 of them are now recovered and 600 of them are dead That means that thus far numbers indicate that 375 of the cases which have run their full course ended in death|0 There is almost certainly a cluster in Washington depending on how you define that Of the several known confirmed cases 2 cases have unknown transmission origin and 50 potential cases pending test results from an assisted living facility|1 Looking at the authors on twitter they seem to think centralized quarantine ie removing even people from their homes even if theyre asymptomatic and placing them in designated quarantine facilities is really key as it prevents spread to others in the household and makes it possible to confirm quarantine is maintained|1 Do you not understand that ALL OTHER AFFECTED COUNTRIES face same basic issues you said such as humans being slefish but nno other country encourage people to not wear masks In China they arrest you if you do not wear mask I refuse to ever accept that IRAN amid all sanctions can produce masks Italy has masks Skorea has masks China has Masks ONLY US tells people DO NOT WEAR MASKS AND WERE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU ANY |1 So why arent smokers contracting it They are pretty significantly underrepresented Theres also some reason to think it is expressed differently in smokershttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020620020974v1|1 Traditional Chinese medicineTraditional Chinese medicine TCM is a branch of traditional medicine that is said to be based on more than 3500 years of Chinese medical practice that includes various forms of herbal medicine acupuncture cupping therapy gua sha massage tui na bonesetter dieda exercise qigong and dietary therapy but recently also influenced by modern Western medicine TCM is widely used in the Sinosphere where it has a long history and in later years it is also increasingly practiced across the globe One of the basic tenets of TCM is that the bodys vital energy chi or qi is circulating through channels called meridians that have branches connected to bodily organs and functions The existence of vital energy is not scientifically verified Concepts of the body and of disease used in TCM reflect its ancient origins and its emphasis on dynamic processes over material structure similar to European humoral theoryScientific investigation has not found evidence for traditional Chinese concepts such as qi meridians and acupuncture points PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 The CDC is an incompetent politically motivated organization like many of our other 3 letter agencies I know people like what they are susposed to be doing but they just do a bad job Even if you account for limits and restrictions placed on them there is no reason for them to be doing this bad if a job|0 Looks like Amazon pulled all those insane listings off their site Masks are now simply not available That means masks will be sold on the craigslist locally|1 No not really It happened in China because they dont enforce sanitary standards and let people run exotic animal markets where thousands of people are in close proximity to animals Thats when viruses get the opportunity to mutate and jump to humans Thats why avian flu have also started in China in the past You wouldnt find a single market like such in Canada You add ludicrous population density with plenty of virus carriers in close proximity and you get new threats Thats exactly what happened with covid19 and its not the first virus or the last virus to do exactly the same thing|0 The numbers stay low forever if they eventually just say it is endemic and there is no need to test anymore It also saves money on testing|0 personally i thoughtthink stricter measures will happen on Friday definitely see the schools being closed|1 I work at a Publix in Alabama We had a few fights Friday night over toilet paper|0 Ive been following closely and havent see people saying Wuhan deserves this people are mad at the government and saying they deserve the criticism|0 Hahahahahahahahahahahaha you call those WELDS God damn you doomers are pathetic The situation is nowhere near as bad as you think it is Yall are on the internet too much |0 Yes a lot of people dont want to hear about it and just spout off the flu being more worrisome and deadly how Trump isnt worried etc I have two elderly relatives that are 70 and have had several health concerns over the last year that Im especially worried about along with a young cousin with bone cancer Unfortunately theyre the types who want to keep their heads buried in the sand and get irritated with my progressive liberal crap They also enjoy going out to large social gatherings like church and the occasional play despite my protests I cant get them to listen so the best I can do is worry only for my immediate family and do the best to minimize our potential to spread anything to those at higher risk I just hope that it doesnt become that bad|1 You are a strong and beautiful light of hope to the world Thank you I hope in America people can get past their differences and come together as you have Sending courage and love your way|1 Yes trust is a big part of this and many do not trust China to report accurately though I could totally understand early in the epidemic having a high rate of misreportsnonreports due to chaos of the emerging situation I honestly dont think it would be too much different in the US either if something broke out here first and yes I trust the CDC Im no expert but it seems underreporting is common as is lag times as is all of this though eventually honest actors catch up as best as they can then youll see an adjustment in the stats From a scientific perspective its par for the course from a nonscientific perspective it seeds mistrust and speculation and panic and even conspiracy theories And even if they were able to collect all the data is the government even going to report it accuratelyThats why we watch the nonMainland data which isnt exponential right now Since Chinas is exponential I dont see what theyre hiding Maybe earlier on but now I mean how much more exponential can you go Look at the graph Its straight up|1 I really hope this awakens Americans to why we need universal healthcareSadly it wont|1 wont be testing that aggressively nowWhere did you read that My understanding is they are increasing testing|0 Lol have you seen the movie contagion Thats precisely what happens a bat bites a pig that infects everyone|0 Just a thought and I am not sure if anyone has asked this yet but anywayThere is a lot of talk among my peers uni students uk suggesting that covid19 could be the same bad cold a lot of us got around Christmas but was undiagnosed because we all thought it was just a coldIs that at all possible did it definitely originate in wuhan in December or was that just the first identificationWe might just be chatting sht Ps Thanks for doing this QA appreciated by lots of us as info from the media government is fairly useless eg some saying panic and lock yourself away forever while others are saying its nothing to worry about|1 Im very impressed that you know the exact testing method theyre using for this virus and its sensitivity Im also very impressed that youre aware of the viral load required by 2019nCov to illicit symptoms Please enlighten me where you have got this information that youre so sure of|1 Do some research on the tides foundation funding the protests and its pretty easy to see whos behind it allI also recommend using DuckDuckGo Google hides most stuff that isnt msm|1 Yea I Will do that Im usually more Logical with realizing That the news makes things sound worse but then I remember that Anxiety tells logic to go fuck itself and This Podcast will probably aid me because I want to keep up to date with info on the virus but almost everywhere I go its usually them hyping this virus up as if it were the next Bubonic Plague|0 film fucked me up ReplyGive AwardshareReportEspecially if the virus leads to male infertility|0 Yes hello team of doctors can you tell me what the side effects might be in 10 years Oh you cantPass|1 Oh mate I hear you And those 900 jackass students from Groningen who decided to go to northern Italy for their fucking ski trip last week despite warnings about the virus are traveling back and arriving in the Netherlands tomorrow I live in a town close by Groningen where Im sure quite a few of those students also live and Im very concerned|1 Hahhahahahhaa God I wish|1 If you read correctly theyre suing not to get money but to hold a temporary restraining order Read the article not the headline|0 2020 sucks man The 90s were betterSomehow I wish I could invent a time machine and go back to 1998 and just live there till the pandemic is done then come back I completely understand how you feel but I also feel as though we are only going through this temporarily Once we get a vaccine everything should go back to normalWhat doctors should have done was kept the old SARS vaccine If they did we would have already had one and solved this outbreak before it even started That was made back in 2004 or so By now we would have already given it to people|1 Toilet paper my friend Toilet paper|1 Or something totally crazy like everyone gets randomly assigned one day each week or two where theyre allowed to go out and spend make money Lower densities when people are out mandatory masks etc to limit the risk but still sustain some level of economic activity|0 Thanks Will try watching tonight with him|1 Yeah I swear never to set foot in the USA Land of the free my ass More like land of the charge you through the pisshole with twenty tungstenbarbed walnuts|1 I wouldnt worry about people in the West panicking or blaming all Chinese people for this disease Its not very common so far as I can seeWhat I would worry about is that this is likely to irrevocably change the relationship between China and the West The honeymoon period ended a few years ago and now every company that relies on China for production must be thinking holy crap what happens if our factory is quarantinedMany of them are going to be looking for more stable countries to manufacture in future and places that are reliant on Chinese tourism for income are going to be reconsidering whether thats a good ideaAnd thats assuming wuflu doesnt become widespread in the West and kill a lot of people|0 Yes a lot of people have been told to work from home Just talked to my sister in law and she is unsure how much work she will be able to do she is a high school teacher with 3 kids home from kindergarden age 26 But they have made an agreement that she will prepare work for all her students but she cannot be available all day for questions That is not doable with 3 young kids at home|1 They are down 100million metric tons per day so down to 300 million metric tons per day still vs the United States 5 billion per day So fresh clean air isnt quite what they have|1 Its getting really silly I do however think the brexit shit has not helped The mistrust of anyone with a different opinion to themselves will ultimately cause deaths|0 This was a presumed positive meaning they are taking precautions NOT that she is 100 infected based on symptoms but they havent actually tested her What they did test was whether she had influenza or other common viruses which could cause those symptoms in which she tested negative So now they have to treat her as a suspect until they get full confirmation They are sending her tests to the NML for final confirmation Note that the vast majority of these suspected positive cases have come back negative so far|0 They had to wait for markets to close before announcing Profits over lives|1 And I dont think theres enough trade jobs available to all of a sudden see a 23x increase easily in the labor supply from every retail worker getting a real jobUnless ya know all those current electricians and plumbers are good with having their pay reduced to that of a retail worker because theres so much labor to compete with|1 Thank you for your writing it provides a real picture of the state of affairs in your city|1 That is with early detection and full medical care Age distribution probably skews it a bit there was a post on here with a paper showing the demographics and outcomes for this population Young people did get sick too if I recall correctlyThe 2 is ballpark on a macro level I think Imperial College gave 054 Singapore has not had many people die I would imagine early detection and top notch early treatmentI have been advising people I care about to assume they are very sick if they have any cold or flu like symptoms and rest Take zinc vitamin C echinacea garlic fluids and so on Because it looks like it is pretty mild then takes a turn you need a head start on itWithout medical treatment is the problem We are probably getting indications of this happening in Iran Unfortunately|0 I feel you being an AV tech whos freelance Ive had all work completely drop off its going to be a tough few months Stay strong and best of luck to you|1 Thats crazy So unprecedented for our time|0 Exactly imagine the extreme panic if theyd taken these measures 2 weeks ago People wouldnt have been ready for this hell theyre not even ready now|0 What about mail My mailman was coughing 2 days ago so I havent been getting it Just leaving it in my mailbox like a millennial|1 It was nothing like this at all I dont remember anything closing I took zero precautions myself and dont remember anyone taking any particular precautionsI had two friends who probably had the swine flu It was definitely not fun After they told me what they went through I started getting the flu shot every year I will be first in line once there is a corona vaccination|0 Either youre a troll or a conspiracy theorist|0 Im trying to keep this in perspective but Im really terrifiedI had to take my infant to the childrens hospital during the height of H1N1 in Texas It was PACKED not this level of packed but they were very very overwhelmed and it showed Everyone was in masks regardless of symptoms nurses running and talking about codes seeing the quarantined areas etc They didnt have enough rooms for the really sick I was huddled in a hallway corner trying to protect my baby because they didnt know much about the virus at that point I wouldnt be surprised if most people there was due to paranoia but I didnt leave the house for such a long time after that incident |0 So much for the 2 week quarantine that half of the infected are ignoring anyway|0 Yeah why do homework Its not like our kids are going to be competing globally for jobs Or that other countries are working harder Screw stress and hard work s|0 I predict a riot|0 To be fair I believe these were tests in Oklahoma the kids were in SLC so its not like they traded off with each other Plus the Jazz were early cases in the state where they knew for a fact Jazz players had direct contact with Gobert and the coronavirusNo doubt their influence helped get those tests though And tests should have been readily available prepared for ahead of time and much more available than now|0 Wow What a contribution|1 Congrats man its nerve racking for sure but as long as we take the proper precautions I believe we will have some healthy mini mes running around|1 I get what youre saying but hell this isnt even limited to US As a Scandinavian its insane to see European nations reacting instead of being more proactive I really thought we would be better than this Its been all about keeping the economy going for as long as possible|0 Which makes it ok to get their parts manufactured there because of the reason cheapest pricing|1 Theyll call you crazy next time too Sorry|0 Im not even worried about the disease itself yes chances are Ill live Im more worried about the quarantine thatll happen China has a huge area shut down and so does Italy Theres a reasonable chance itll happen here as well Netherlands Buying some extra food thatll keep a few months just seams reasonable shrug|1 Assumedly OP is American Thats what made it back to the US meansAre you seriously suggesting we abandon all our civilians who arent in country yet|0 Also hijacking but maybe better approach First of all good luck Check maybe the medics they use remidsivir or whats it s called and look in the paper normally online aviable i normally use a painkiller with metazimol which would mean i couldn t get some treatments which are used for this Please Don t stop using needed medicine but if you can take another which in my case is Ibuprofen it would maybe be a benefit Thumps up for your calmnes Sorry for my bad englisch|1 For those interested here is some information in regards to plasmatransfusion medicine for Covid19Convalescent plasma as a potential therapy for COVID19httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920301419fulltextCoronavirus Disease 2019 Coronaviruses and Blood SafetyhttpsreaderelseviercomreadersdpiiS0887796320300146token0A50C96E12191AFF006ABFC750B163BED2D993AFB59FD7A95F9852D78B452325A51FD7AE82662BC98F39220F43D9C842|1 Theyre also arresting people who paint China in a true light Regardless of whatever else they do theyre fucking up|1 Good job Korea|1 I wonder if a 1st world country leader would even be open about itIran tried to hide it but it was eventually overwhelming with half the government missing|0 Not to me It actually fits with what I am seeing We are seeing the Italian data start to mirror the Chinese descriptive epi data in terms of young adults and children There is no indication they are immune to the disease it simply does not have the physical impact on them that it does on older ages They could be acting as a reservoir and IF that were true it would be significant in terms of designing community level interventions Even the Italian data from the linked story would tend to be low as RT PCR testing can only detect cases within a window and will miss recovered cases past a certain time frame and will miss cases where the virus is not yet at levels detectable by the test THE WORLD NEEDS SEROLOGIC TESTS FOR THIS FRIGGING ORGANISM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN BEGIN TO GET A REAL IDEA OF THE DISEASE BURDEN WITHIN THE POPULATION AS A WHOLE|0 Caretakers are vaccinated against the normal flu so they arent under risk catching the flu when dealing with people having the flu Theres no vaccine against corona so in order to keep the maximum amount of caretakers healthy they use special precautions|0 Nah the millennials are fine Their fatality rate is super low and is about 100 those with health conditions|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thats in the stores to regulate So called third world countries have used of rationalization for years thats too hard for American businesses to understand with their usually mentality of buying 2 for 1 and selling in bulk|0 My son is autistic he literally spends all day jumping and bouncing Despite a really limited diet consisting mainly of breaded chicken hes in far better shape than me|1 The same study was misquoted and misinterpreted by Bloomberg news and posted on the other Coronavirus subreddit and labeled as misleading The study literally spells out that shedding infections And 37 days was the MAX recorded instance of shedding 20 days was average Stop fear mongering by misinterpreting actual scientists Thats worse then spreading fakenews httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhyfc5patientswiththenewcoronaviruskeeptheutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 But not dead Which is the point|1 This is being reported as being from Solano County Maybe well be hearing about another in the near future httpswebarchiveorgweb20200227014039httpswwwmercurynewscom20200226coronavirushereswhatthelatestsciencetellsus|1 So He didnt disappear I thought I read that he had disappeared after criticizing Xi|0 Am I reading it wrong or do the UK cases stop on 27th Feb|0 Ha This guy thinks were going to get older|1 You know what Ive never seen them Guess Ill give em a watch this weekendFun fact And acquaintance was an extra in the newest one|0 Damn thats about the same percentage as the return on my puts|0 Meanwhile American hospitals know better than to make decisions that dont turn a profit within the quarter public health be damned|0 I love when people pretend that somewhere in the new testament it demands that christians become minorities in their own countries and keep open borders The bible is a book about personal morality not a good governance handbook|1 Thanks for sharing|1 Very simple It nearly impossible to enforce everyone staying home If you have a narrowed down list of people who tested positive your job becomes much easier|1 That is probably for the best until we actually know if you do become properly immune afterwards|1 Fewer than Yes I hate myself too|0 Northeast megalopolisThe Northeast megalopolis also BostonWashington corridor or BosWash corridor is the second most populous megalopolis in the United States with over 50 million residents the most heavily urbanized agglomeration of the United States and the one with the worlds largest economic output Located primarily on the Atlantic Ocean in the Northeastern United States with its lower terminus in the upper Southeast it runs primarily northeast to southwest from the northern suburbs of Boston Massachusetts to the southern suburbs of Washington DC in Northern Virginia It includes the major cities of Boston Providence New York City Philadelphia Baltimore and Washington DC along with their metropolitan areas and suburbs It is sometimes defined to include smaller urban centers beyond this such as Richmond and Norfolk Virginia to the south and Portland Maine to the northThe megalopolis extends in a roughly straight line along a section of US Route 1 PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Yes but we have the best tests in the world|1 Meanwhile USA stocks go on a bull run The world is so fucked up we deserve what we get|0 Finally if only Wa State would get prepared|1 Yeah thats the word I am looking for Not quite front line in the current sense but they are exposed to such risks|0 They are only testing people with severe symptoms They are not testing everyone|0 He did post on Twitter no YouTube|0 Uh yeah Fox news save it You sold out your your last shred of credibility about 100 miles back You are no longer to be trusted nor should you be PERIOD|1 Ive been a caregiver for my Dad for a little over 2 years now He couldnt physically leave the house if he wanted to stroke Hes hoping he gets it though He hates his life even more now that hes helpless|0 Agreed that is why you have to determine where you draw the line If you wait until someone in your office is infected then you have waited too long|0 Right I guess the guy who discovered medicine shouldve said the same thing Tell me does it feel good sitting in your shelter that you built all by your self eating the food that you grew all on your own typing this amazing speech that makes so much sense on a computer you discovered on your own Its not their problem that you cant Get out of that prebuilt home and go build yourself one Youre an ass hole and incredibly self centered and you need some self reflection help and a hug|1 Peru has a lot of issues with waste management Many of which expose people unnecessarily to human waste Love the country but the hygiene standards would keep me from visiting for pleasure Never visited a hospital in Peru so I cant comment on that|1 Damn right|0 Except Americansyou knowthe biggest and most likely group to come here and the people who live in that country a Norwegian school recently chided as being undeveloped Seems like a bit of an oversight|1 where the fuck am i supposed to find a tarantula and a copy of my brothers girlfriend during this crisis|0 Yes This All nonessential travel at least needs to be banned|0 We must stop flights from China and later any new countries the disease might be spreading in until the disease is better understood There is a specific action that has not yet been fully taken which needs to be taken|1 It seems to me like the only parts that arent similar to a bad flu have to do with our reaction to it Weve never cancelled this many events for the flu but why not Weve never seen the stock market drop like this from the flu but why not Weve never brought civilization to its knees with panic because of the flu but why not We dont have a vaccine for it ok but that doesnt make the virus different The only difference is that its somewhat more deadly than an average flu right Or similarly deadly to a really bad flu I thought WHO said that the mortality rate was expected to drop significantly as we start getting more and more data|0 Coronavirus go fck yourself too lets see who has the last laugh|1 You are not 13 billions Chinese are supporting your concern It is serious I personally just cant believe how arrogant and blind western governments and media are|1 Ah yes the ultimate solution for a pandemic Do not shake hands Fuck I hate our government right now|1 Cant it just be false negative testing|0 Only God can protect this woman Her dog is only the smallest servant of his will and her stewardship but a small step above in service to God|1 Get her out now If she is young and healthy then she can withstand a flight|1 Lol you want to mark me because you dont agree with my question I followed this sub a week ago or more What qualifies as new|1 Not interested in the C suite guys Look at the markets todayExplain why they are burning down the houseThese guys are working from hardcore financial analysis and data This should tell us something|0 Keep it up x200BAs soon as the numbers reached 6k the jokes stopped in Spain Now everybody sane is wrapping scarfs around the mouthx200BSome have cognitive disconnection and make remarksx200BIts the function of the brain to cope with extreme fear My joking relatives went into silent depression One still jokes because its not in the affected area so farx200BBuying food during the fear of infecting your older parents is as stressful as any horror film Everybody has at least one older person relative friend famous actor etc that we all love and want to stay alivex200BConstant fear wears people out The jokes might be the only thing that keeps us sane|0 My friend and I were talking about how bad ass Singapore is when they took the Permanent Resident Status of a man who went out of his designated place when in stayhome notice As we say here you cannot playplay with Singapore linkhttpswwwstraitstimescomsingaporecoronavirussingaporepermanentresidentwhobreachedstayhomenoticestrippedofpr|1 Im hearing the same rumors from sources I trust|1 Yesterday I heard about a nurse who got it while caring for a verified patient despite having all the symptoms she has not received approval from the federal government to run the test almost like they are choosing the bury their heads into the sand|1 Apples Chinese factory conditions are far better than the vast majority of other manufacturers out there|1 This is basically SARS round two electric boogaloo but now with 100 more internet and global awareness The main difference in the lethality of it my opinion is that the air quality in China was significantly better in the early 2000s than it is now|1 httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvTf4zQADLS8httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvTf4zQADLS8 There is this but I have no idea how legit it is Ive been checking it since yesterday and Wuhan is a ghost town|0 Not only that but once you contract it even if you dont die youll likely infect someone elseThe goal here isnt to just get it over with Its to slow the actual reproduction across the boardIm not letting it use my body as a factory if I can help it|1 Wow|1 Arent they like 1k a pop tooThats a minimum of 529600000000 That does not include ANY additional expenses which will be inevitably tacked on I dont know enough about hospital expenses to really guesstimate but that number probably could exceed a trillion very easily since 20 i believe need to be hospitalized if I remember correctly Hospital stays are a lengthy as wellEdit and reinfection could be a thing but well know laterAdditionally permanent damage to some people requiring more could also be a factor|1 Even mild pneumonia cases are left with permanent lung damage How dare you compare this to your regular bacterial pneumonia you didnt even feel|0 YES Everyone is equating me worrying and being scared for whats to come with being PANICKED There is nothing irrational in my actions I am not panicked and I do not need to relax I am simply concerned for those around me who have immune deficiencies I have a mild one the elderly and the unknown especially for any long term effects I am very scared as to what will happen to society when panic meets desperation and have said this multiple times Being concerned and worried is healthy in this circumstance If youre not your head is in the sand The market is crazy some of it justifiable Do I think this is the end of the world Not in the slightest However I do think this the end of our normal lives for a little while I think we have to adjust I think we have to slow the spread the USA is hardly helping with that and neither are some selfish individuals Ive read reports on I think we need to come up with some sort of vaccine to either curb the side effects or prevent its occurrence but that will take time I dont think any of those things Im thinking are panicking I think Im being realistic and proactive instead of simply reactive Early intervention is best with almost everything I cant possibly see this as being any different I am trying my best to make my voice heard with both my actions and words Even my husband thinks I need to calm down and that its not like we are there yet I didnt feel like having the argument as we have already discussed it multiple times His head is clearly in the sand and he doesnt think it is which is exactly what I worry about in people We are not there yet because we are hardly testing we are in CT and havent had a death yet or have had the hospitals overflow with intakes I know it will come unless a miracle vaccine happens that ALSO gets approved However the only way for it not to come at such a crazy and ferocious speed is to limit our interactions as much as we can with others The only way to do that is to keep your families at home as much as you possibly can or go outside to places where you can keep your distance We need to help those around us that are less fortunate by doing what we can And for the love of god share the toilet paper now that shit is crazy Buy a bidet if you think you need that much TPEdit typos|1 Many Australian supermarkets just decided to do extended hours for the elderly or disabled Opening an hour earlier for those customers only just so they can have a chance to get stuff after nightfill have restocked the shelvesYou may not be in a position to put that in place at your store but you can suggest it And maybe some store managers will read my comment and think its a good idea|1 Yeah I think its concerning to everyonethats why not seeing a new case of it was a relief I was kind of expecting a whole bunch to be found|1 I think its amazing what the sporting world is doing about this Its great Along with the companies during the WH press conferenceBut I look at Facebook and other subs and just see people continuing on with their daily lives as if nothing is happening and they make no changes and some people flat out denying the impact of this virusI feel like Im going insane for thinking rationally Im not one to say you have to be stuck in your home I believe you shouldnt leave if you dont have to If you have to get groceries or supplies do so within reason of course and if you have to go to work go to work But dang some people just dont get that to stop this thing dont go out and have fun stay home and be lazy How hard is it|1 This victim handles packages and bulk mail Here is the full article httpswwwkiro7comnewslocallocaluspsemployeetestspositivecoronavirusXLKCBEXO5FFJ3DRQSBHNACPW2Mhttpswwwkiro7comnewslocallocaluspsemployeetestspositivecoronavirusXLKCBEXO5FFJ3DRQSBHNACPW2M|0 The CDC is apparently struggling to get a reliable test out they addressed this in their press call yesterdayapparently some tests went out that were defective originally Very frustrating|0 Yeah suffocation isnt cool so Id really love to contribute if I can Idk how Im not a doctor but I have a Masters of Science in NutritionMinor in Chem a bit of side money a good laptop and a respectable understanding of human physiologybiochemistryIf any of that sounds helpful just reach out and let me know what I can do|1 They are so far behind in getting cases confirmed due to testing limitations that these numbers are reflecting them trying to catch up on testing past cases as well as new oneSo the daily growth in these numbers dont necessarily reflect new cases as they are developingIf the numbers out of China are to be believed at all|1 We are thinking of you and our hearts go out to you Hope you enjoy those walks|1 So basically news that has nothing to do with Coronavirus Interesting I dont know why you would be downvoted|1 I know it was a joke|1 When I was a teenager my family still lived in Singapore NOOO drugs for me as that country has extremely harsh punishments long jail terms caning and even the deathpenalty if you are caught with any decent amount of certain drugs I feel like I missed a rite of passage getting stoned off my ass as a minor|0 Theyre not getting rid of it out of fear|0 This is shit all things are about corona in US|0 Im dutch can probably interpret the article better than google translate canNote for context we have a yearly celebration called carnaval Its celebrated throughout the country but the biggest gathering is in Brabant Tons of people dancing and celebrating out together Many young corona patients in ICU likely due to carnavalThe proposition that the corona virus only puts vulnerable seniors at risk is incorrect Out of the 96 corona patients who were taken into the ICU on monday evening roughly half are less than 50 years old says Diederik Gommers chairman of the Dutch Intensive Care AssociationWe think the cause behind that is that the outbreak primarily happened in Brabant and has to do with carnaval People celebrating carnaval tend to be youngerIn general seniors and those at increased risk have more to fear about the corona virus Seniors get sick more easily If you have other illnesses you have the highest risk of ending up in the ICU For example a weak heart diabetes or high blood pressureOperation room staff rescheduled to ICUDespite the aforementioned patients who are younger and otherwise healthy are ending up in the ICU What is the cause Some peoples bodies are having a form of overreaction to the virus causing severe pneumonia We dont know what causes that reaction though we do also occasionally see it during the regular flu season influenzaIs the Netherlands prepared for the number of ICU patients rising in the upcoming weeks The amount of beds can be increased to 1500 estimates Gommers That should be adequateIn recent years weve mainly struggled with a lack of staff thus not having all facilities in use It gives some space now but well need staff Currently all planned surgeries are being cancelled and were asking operation room staff to help out in the ICUNo chance without assisted breathingAnother risk is a potential shortage of assisted breathing machines We are working with a lot of people to see if we can find any additional machines in private companies and the military might give us 80 machines When calling the manufacturers in the US Germany and Italy we do notice that all countries want to buy such machinesTheyre exhausted cant breathe on their own ICUdoctor Diederik Gommers concerning corona patients in the ICUHow are the people doing after theyre admitted to the ICU Gommers Theyre brought into first aid with breathing problems Usually they can still breathe on their own on the first day After that they quickly go downhill They have to work very hard to draw any breath at all Essentially theyre exhausting themselves at which point we hook them up We apply a tube and put a machine in charge of the breathing process Its called mechanically assisted breathingWithout that machine they stand no chance Theyre exhausted cant breathe on their own anymore Patients dont notice the assisted breathing theyre put to sleep like with surgeryKilos worth of muscles lostThe biggest problem for patients in the ICU is that assisted breathing may be necessary for a very long time Its seriously severe pneumonia in both lungs That normally takes 14 days of assisted breathing on average However from cases in China and Italy we know it takes longer with the corona virus up to 4 weeksWe have a few patients who have entered the fourth week At that point youll want to start toning down how strongly the machine supports breathing And then its still going to take a long time to recover Youve been kept asleep for so long with assisted breathing for so long that itll take half a year up to a full year to recover Some patients wont even fully recover at all The illness and extended assisted breathing causes you to lose kilos worth of muscle tissue End of articleVideoReporter How many patients suffering from the corona virus are currently in the ICU in the NetherlandsGommers According to the numbers that were published this morning there are 70 corona patients in the ICU in the NetherlandsReporter What age groups are those peopleGommers We think its about 5050 between younger and older people We think thats mainly because the outbreak was in Brabant and that it has to do with carnaval People celebrating carnaval tend to be a bit youngerReporter We assume its mainly seniors and people with preexisting medical issues who get severely sick from the corona virus Is that assumption wrongGommers Older people do get sick more easily However every year we do also see younger people get severely sick and end up in the ICU due to normal influenza So its not unheard of End of videoSo the key points to take from this Some people are having a severe reaction to the virus causing severe pneumonia in both lungs There are cases of this with influenza too even in younger patients The severe reaction can hit anyone roughly half of the 96 ICU corona patients in the Netherlands are less than 50 years of age If the pneumonia gets bad enough it becomes close enough to impossible to draw breath at all without machineassisted breathing Recorded cases of COVID19 required up to 4 weeks of assisted breathing in order to survive the pneumonia Patients remain in a medically induced coma throughout the entire assisted breathing period It takes half a year or longer to recover the muscle tissue lost from artificial breathing Some will never fully recoverAlso very important note the age data for ICU patients in the Netherlands may be skewed because the initial outbreak took place in Brabant during carnaval where mainly younger people under 50 were celebrating Of course if a virus outbreak is localized in the 2050 age group youre going to see a lot of people aged 2050 in the ICU relative to other age groupsEdited to revise some wording for a more accurate translation|0 Its about 2435 seconds if you say the original entire litany as seen in the book at a steady pace Even if you say it a faster pace like if your hands skin is being imaginably burned off its still about 22seconds|1 Im a wedding videographer and Ive been wondering how my 2020 season will be affected Check the contract that you signed with your vendors mine says that the deposit can be put toward any future date up to a year out so long as the date is available|0 When I was a little kid I went on a few and had a lot of fun we had 2 rooms 1 for me and my dads girlfriends son and 1 for our parents 247 all you can eat buffet wed go 3 AM and stack up plates of food go outside watch the ocean go back in the room and watched spiderman or something while laying back on our beds get up listen to live music performances go to some shops etc Then wed have a couple days to walk around Mexico back when it wasnt as murderous which was pretty funAnyways it might not be so fun today but I had so much fun on it when I was a kid|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 We need to cut them some slack They after all are in Georgia and that is not a state that exhibits the best tools in the shed|1 Theres so many who want to get themselves tested that the queues are longer than what the health service can manage Weve actually been pretty good at testing up until now compared to other countries Thats why were so high up on the statistics|1 The same people that clean it up from their enclosures|1 What a nightmare Im glad you made it through alive No intent to pursue this path in the middle of a pandemic for sure|1 They should ban releasing man made viruses|0 Sneeze into your elbow Oh and elbow bump your neighbor cuz you know stupidity|0 Well Im glad to see so many scientists are taking this seriously thank you all for the enormous amount of effort youre putting in This is quite a list|1 So much shit going on nows its hard to keep up with it Honestly getting beyond me at this point|0 Damn the bodacity of your superior I assume heshe also got pressure from above about daily quota or something similar|0 Believer Most significant event since WW2 World shattering Some of you guys sound legitimately delusional man|1 Thank you again appreciated|1 Past few weeks Lots of American in reddit blame China for hiding the number Now their own government is doing the same thing Hypocrite|0 Im in a similar situation to you I have Sarcoidosis an auto immune disease which has scarred my lungs Im also a teacher Tonight Ive got a temperature but tomorrow Im expected to be in school with a class of little kids in an area with confirmed cases and a death Scary times|0 The upside of exponential growth is boy does the news come fast Every few minutes its a new story that would be legitimately big news for a month on its own Over and over and over again While at the same time were all worried for our future worried for those we know and love|1 And David Cameron put his Todger in a dead pigs mouth|0 I hope they both make a fast recovery They are lucky the ship stopped in Japan they could have ended up almost anywhere and that is probably the best country in that region to get good healthcare|1 You are expecting to convince someone by just throwing in Doctor X said Y How many do you think knows who Dr Fauci is|1 The handling of the Diamond Princess will be written about in the epidemiology texts for years to come It will result in many expensive lawsuits for the cruise company and Japan|1 Agreed|1 Fellow colleagues mocked me last week This week its actually scary how different their attitude is|0 Thats why theres a guy lied about he was from Wuhan he got free food and stayed in a hotel for 14 days then they found out the truth he was arrestedComments under the news are well more free food for you|1 I for one can confirm that I got hit with both A and B strains B in December A in January Was not a fun times|0 Not really because its mostly about overloading the healthcare system and having people just dying on the streets Why well because a small percentage of a very very large number like the population of an entire country is still a gigantic number Its that simple Even 04 fatality rate with high infection rates will be catastrophic Remember regular flu is like maybe maximum 015 however its transmission rate is much much lower like its at least 12 as contagious So ok we can say its like the flu but a flu 24x as contagious and a fatality rate 320x higher and obviously even many with mild symptoms more severe than people are typically experienced Ask a doctor what mild means vs a regular person trust me they have different definitions of the word|0 This is quite interesting Would that mean these substances could help prevent infection or make the infection less severeTheres just one thing that doesnt sit well with me COVID19 a new strain of coronavirus CoV was identified in Wuhan China in 2019 Isnt COVID19 the name of the disease while SARSCoV2 is the virus|1 Everyone in my life was laughing at me including my husband who was hell bent against early grocery shopping Im kicking myself for not going to Sams Club last week though I did get some things that will last a while but most protein is sold out and Ive been like this is why Im listening to my gut now Slowly but surely everyone is starting to come around and realize the situation|1 Well I should elaborateI worked for Cummins 7 years and I was a senior engineer Got laid off 2 months ago along with a lot of other good people better than me That was before coronavirus was a thing They build 500k engines a year in China and their main plant for Class 8 truck engines in the US is in NY I am scared for my friends Hang in there my dude hope you fare well through this|1 Actually all the blame lays before one man Joe Lieberman|0 This PSA from Vietnam should helpIts better than any Ive seen released from the USAhttpsyoutubeV9YirNgAzXI|1 No that was Jenny and shes a whore|0 Well i hope its true because the anxiety of public transportation and being pregnant and my department not letting me WFH |1 From what I can tell from this graph it appears that they are either handling this very well and are just getting better at testing hence the increase in infection rate on date 16 23 and 35 or they are handling it well but something keeps happening where it escapes their control and they have to handle a buch of small minioutbreaks which is why dydx of this graph seems to be going up and down|1 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Honestly they didnt get help or get off the ship soon enough in my opinion|1 Humans dont live long enough to appreciate these infectious disease cycles so they dont prepare for them until it is too late If we lived for 250 years we would have been better prepared|1 Im not sure I followed the last part there what is the this that the WHO is driving|0 This Right My alarm bells were going off the first couple weeks of January Any time I brought it up outside of my sister and best friend I was treated like a lunatic|1 Its already like that here Costcos are out of rice and water I think were at the tipping point|1 Or western media is far more biased against China|0 I just used tea towel I cannot find the special unwoven material that the Asian countries are using I am going to a seamstress tomorrow morning with the materials and the template|0 Mostly while 395 bills are sitting on Mitch McConnells desk bc he wont bring them to the Senate floor to even be discussedRemember this when people rant about donothing Democrats They already did their duty to their country|0 The cpap is great Do you have a way to measure your pulse ox Cheap ones on amazon under 12 and Samsung phones do it for free If your o2 sats are under 94 its a situation that requires medical support Get masks if you can or bandanas or anything makeshift if you cant find masks With community spread confirmed a high number of cases in king county considered an outbreak epicenter your lacking immune system and now presenting with symptoms I personally nonprofessionally would assume considering your current circumstances would assume your chances of not having it would be lower than your chances of having it|1 Why is it great news Isnt this bad news|1 Presuming there is an immunity granted by exposure to OC43 theres no telling how long it lasts for Childbearing age is roughly until midlate 30s Yea I know it can go later Its possible the protection acquired by exposure to OC43 lasts that long and that its being passed to children in the placenta An acquired immunity like this could explain the propensity for asymptomatic and barely symptomatic cases|1 China imprisoned 17 million UighursThe fact that people still believe this garbage shows how stupid the average person is We live in the age of information everyone is connected to each other by the internet yet zero claims besides medically impossible testimonies from Falun Gong and CIAaligned organizations exist to back this claim Leaked documents about the event even looked like they were translated by Google Translate and lacked any seals or signatures|0 Im sure there are also certified professionals who do this the whole day long and I dont know if you are one of them but all that said this is very informative and interesting Thanks a lot|1 I hope he enjoys burning in hell|1 Lol gtfo|1 Pls every American president would do this They straight up lie to your face so many times already|1 no shit Dont travel at all right now lol|0 Does anyone know why men are more susceptible I heard something about an additional X chromosome and estrogen but Im not sure|0 True theres prolly many in the US that have a mild form of it that dont get tested thats prolly how it spreads|1 Even if all electricity came from coal electric cars would still pollute less than gasoline|0 When this is all over some heads will figuratively roll at the CDC but really its the administration thats to blame for this mess|0 Maybe not a billionaire but you clearly dont know how the real world works if youre condemning people for not having 3 to 6 months worth of savings|1 Tagging along here to add that you can run down to your local hardware storehome depot and pick up some extremely cheap LED lights that will produce perfectly acceptable lettuce on a countertop They wont grow tomatoes or peppers worth a darn but theyll do just fine for greens|1 The disease does permanent damage to your body We should hope most of us do not get it|0 Thanks for this|1 Ha I wish That would mean I could drive|1 I remember during the wenchuan earthquake in 2008 the Italian medical team was the first in Europe to support China|1 Good news Google machine learning and suoerbugs Those algorithms have discovered novel concoctions of antibiotics to counteract two or of three types of suoerbugs This was published last month I believe It didnt invent new drugs just a new combination of old ones some left field|1 Im all for preventing getting sick You wouldnt believe how far hand washing goes Im just saying n95 masks arent a one size fits all deal Soooooo many people think they are N95 means that if fitted properly and worn correctly it will filter out 95 of micron test particles But thats if they fit correctly If they dont fit correctly theres no seal and then you might as well just wear a regular face mask Also have any of you guys work a n95 mask for long They are incredibly uncomfortable its hard to breathe in them because the material is so thick and it gets really hot I personally dont have any n95s at my house for my family I have prepped and stocked up on other supplies Ive been drilling into my kids to wash their hands reallllllllly well and not touch their face and Ive bought lots of soap hand sanitizer and cleaning suppliesIn my opinion a n95 mask alone wont be enough to protect you out in public It looks like you can catch covid through your eyes so you would need goggles too And id wear gloves Youd need to disinfect whenever you used in public car keys cell phones wallets credit cards etc because the virus can live on surfaces for several days But I think we can all agree stealing masks from a hospital is a horrible thing to do|1 Cancel or not Im still not coming|0 Yes cities are all running fine just buying masks is not easy but it really depends on the area too|1 Yeah I think this isnt gonna be the pandemic thatll end humanity as we know But itll be the thought one because this virus can spread so rapidly and stealthy All I can say is prepare but not panic|1 Actions speak louder than words All these big businesses are cancelling everything That means something scares them more than a huge financial loss And for a culture that practically worships money thats a truly terrifying thought|0 Why arent my local doctors and nurses treating this seriously The infection rate of an unknown virus that kills people has gone parabolic The onset of symptoms is often slow or nonexistent Countries and businesses are shutting down because of the severity They dont do that for the fluYet when you bring it up with a doctor or nurse they just tell me that the flu is worse The flu is harder to hide easier to know when you need to stay home because of the sudden onset of symptoms Saying the flu is worse is like telling me Im statistically more likely to die in an auto accident so I dont need smoke detectors in my house|0 You can have any number you like when you decide who gets tested and when|1 I second this assertion Reddit and this sub in particular easily has been the best out there in terms of updates and information A great community keeping it mostly civil and well informedgreat work Awesome work Keep going|1 Less than they should and most likely their figures are way higher than reported Theres no joking with this shitStay at home|0 By now we have had a lot of warning of our governments ineptness US civilians should be in IneptGov Defcon 5 by now|0 Hate Wait and See mode Makes me nervous Like Better make a bug out bag nervousIm not But Im compelled to|0 Its like the writers strike in 2008|1 Isnt that the reason that the super rich are fleeing the country in their own private jets as reported by Bloomberg The Coronavirus will have definitely MAGA|1 Thats fascinating|1 How can we common people express our discontent to governments neglect|0 Ha|1 Some people I just dont understand I bet if they said children were most at risk instead of the elderly it would be a different story|0 Actually yeah your right Good point Its possible that the requirements wouldnt be as strict if they had alot of tests though|1 Theyve been hard to get since last fall before all this even started Our order from November just came in last week|0 As someone who bought significantly more groceries than normal Im truly sorry Were scared and about to have another baby and really dont want to be in a situation where we get split up from our child in the first weeks because we got sick We genuinely arent trying to hoard just trying to reduce the amount we leave our house I like to think few people are actually hoarding and theres just a lot of people who are buying more than normal Again sorry Also we have a Normal amount of TP as we have regular bowel movements and we havent hoarded hand sanitizer because we have soapps thanks to those that work at the grocery store|0 Now we have a finacial plan in place Are qe ready for anlock down then Or will they ever annoce a lockdown Cuz most places arent going to stop working unless they impose a lockdown|1 They arent contradicting the paper While being so quick to criticize others for dismissing the contributions of others you dont seem to care that youre doing the same|0 It is somewhat unlikely that multiple people were infected by food Viruses generally need some mutation to take root in the human population A new virus entering the human population is a rare event It is more likely that a person who worked in the seafood market caught it first it mutated within their body then that person spread it around the market The specific details probably are never going to be known The health authorities covered it up at first and at this point no one wants to talk about their role in importing pangolins or bats and eating them It is possible that the very first person to catch the virus knows exactly who he is and what he ate but he probably feels a wee bit bad about what has happened and might be reluctant to talk about it|0 Isopropyl 4060 is more effective|1 WFH here for a company that provides equipment for municipal and industrial water treatment No real sign of this affecting our business for nowMy pregnant wife is a teacher in a city elementary school I really wish theyd shut down already even if for a few weeks|1 Do you think that the original tweeter meant if enough beds for everyone open up they still wont be let in No Normal triage is one line for everyone by severity The second unmoving line doesnt exist in normal triage In normal triage if you worsen you get put at the front of the line or improving patients are taken off In current triage for these regions it is the opposite If you are a complicated case your position is last No exceptions if your saturation falls below viable In normal triage if your sat starts falling precipitously and you have medical conditions the doctors would stick a rocket up your arse and light if it got you to the vent earlier Wartime triage the priority is inverted If you are at risk you are at the back of the line They want to churn through healthy patients and get em to recovery at the expense of absurdly high fatality rates for complex cases|0 I have a big baggy hooded sweatshirt with long sleeves I shake the sleeves out and open doors and touch stuff using the sleeves as gloves You can find ways to reduce risk Best wishes|1 Ya thats only the reported cases too The true recovery rate is probably a lot higher than it appears Most Younger people with better immune systems arent reporting it cus they recover without needing medical care There hasnt been a single reported case in my entire district but a bunch of people definitley have or had itIm near sf I might even have it but if I do it only feels like a longerlasting cold and not worth getting tested for Being extra careful around more vulnerable people|1 It wouldnt shock me if it hits a thousand Much higher would|1 Its the way things will inevitably go Automation will replace most human jobs that exist right now Watch CGP Greys Humans Need Not Apply We need some serious solutions and FAST UBI to start but that is only the beginning of whats necessary|1 In Washington the UW has stepped up and has testing capacity now of 1000 per day We are lucky because the CDC is way behind|1 I find it funny how the media played the whole thing down for WEEKS and now the media changed directions and everyone is freaking out This is also the reason why a lot of people not taking it serious The media caused the panic This pandemic is gonna hurt a lot of people because of how unprepared the us people are I doubt most the panic buyers have more than a couple weeks of food stocked up let alone enough money to float by on savings for the next couple months|0 So kinda like Greenland in Plague inc Maybe not as extreme but Greenland is always the place that stops you from winning|1 Feels like a total George Costanza move|1 Thank you for supporting|1 No you are imparting your own negative connotations Asians are on average more cooperative than others We shouldnt even need to debate this If we do its probably because you have not spent much time in communities of other races|0 Also the vast majority of cases 80 are mildThis thing seems as contagious as the flu if not more so If it spreads as broadly as the flu the minority of cases is still a massive number of people that the healthcare system probably cant even handleBut nothing to worry about odds are you wont need to be hospitalized or die|0 How can you have a title like that and provide no details about how the samples were collected and stored and which RNA extraction kits were used These upstream steps hugely impact the sensitivity of the downstream RTPCR assayIm especially mad because there was that other preprint saying that China SOP was to heatinactivate samples for 30 min at 56 degrees C which would absolutely destroy most of the RNA if the sample is in the wrong buffer|0 No problem Were all super anxious and it totally makes sense that youd get upset about someone downplaying the whole thing It is super dangerous|0 I better try to get some sleep before the big announcement I might have to run out in my jammies for some milk eggs lol Night yall thanks for putting my mind at ease Stay safe feel free to keep the convo going |1 Wow|1 begins new adventure of knowledge|1 children and especially infants dont really have much in the way of an immune system FalseThey dont have much in the way of immune system memoryThey have far greater adaptation than any other age group The key to them obliterating corona is that the human thymus gland is most active in fetal and neonatal life Their bodies dont need to know what coronavirus is theyre just hilariously effective at annihilating new pathogens|1 He aint going to Guantanamo He is going to an isolation ward in a quarantine center for 14 or more days If virus ran rampant in and kills 2 of China it can do the same to our country Prevention significantly reduces spread of infection|0 This is going to look like 911 in every city in the US Medical personnel will dieAnd honestly many of us will tooIfwhen I get over my selfquarantine for chest congestion Im too low on the priority to be given a test Im going to see if I can volunteer somewhere I can help out This shit show is going to require all of usBut please take note of the injustices We can always hold a trial afterwards The statute of limitations is usually at least 2 years Up to 10 years in some medical situations This thing could be mostly over in 6 weeks|1 Cant we join this letter somehow or make a petition ask WHO for help I dont know anything other than just waiting|1 Maybe this is already known here but QuercetinEGCG like Choloquine are Zinc ionophores means they allow zinc to get into the cells and that way inhibit virus replication RNA polymerase feels like Zinc Ionophores needs more attentionZinc Ionophore Activity of Quercetin and Epigallocatechingallatehttpspubsacsorgdoi101021jf5014633Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophorehttpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0109180Zn2 Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell CulturehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2973827|0 Can it reset back to 2015 please|1 What a coincidenceThe CBO estimated that of the 24 trillion longterm price tag for the war about 19 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq or 6300 per US citizen|0 If there was a UV dye that could be lighted sprayed from all doorways like those fans on doors meant to keep bugs out then people who where transmissible might be easily seen|1 This is a surefire way to make America great again|1 Or even more clearly the proportion of people over 70|1 Copays would still be covered though like insured commercial health insurance ACA plans he said nothing about deductibles or costsharing|1 Iranian mothers live to make their children feel guilty its like lifeblood to them|0 This is a wonderful idea in theory In practice theres seemingly nothing stopping you or I from submitting false reports Plus even if all the data on the site was genuine it still wouldnt reflect accurate numbers unless everyone in the world knew about the site and was actively using itI say all this not to shit all over the person who made it I commend you for doing something positive nor to freak anyone out but more to highlight the fact that you unfortunately cant trust the data on this tool any more than you can trust official dataAnd it works both ways unreliable data doesnt just falsely reassure when the numbers are low but can cause undue worry and panic when the numbers are high even if neither figure really represents the reality|0 Panic buying is buying when shit hits the fan buying early is Preemptive Shopping|0 The only things they cant ignore here will be a pile of dead bodiesor a number of doctors admitted to ICU|0 Our hearts are with you I dont think most people are blaming you for it hopefully it is contained and ends quickly|0 Would zinc help in this situation at all|1 Pretty mild but Id still rather not take those odds|1 Its a disease The guy is litterally sick|0 Fine what citystate or even country|1 Yeah hope his chest pain and diarrhea he reports diarrhea is a symptom is just from stress and not him actually catching the virus as well Keeping this guy in my prayers We need more brave heros like him To think the actual reporter from NYTimes wanted to interview him because they are too afraid to go to the hospitals|1 Are you concerned that the long term effects of the virus are unknown Are you concerned that as an asymptomatic carrier you could pass the virus on to someone who is of a higher risk group|0 COVID19 is really just a chance to see how stupid some governments areSo far it seems that the Netherlands and USA are competing for most stupid|0 Whats happening in the USA is the result of Russian trolling Its not the same as the flu and the flu is not worse and it doesnt matter whether it escaped a Wuhan viral lab these are all talking points promoted by Russian trolls to confuse people and sow disinfo on the English speaking internetUnfortunately we are just really bad at not recognizing when the talking points we repeat from other people make no sense I had a friend yelling at me his DOCTOR GUM BUDDY says everything is fine and Im like uh no dude and hes like how do you know you are not a doctor and Im like I can fucking read articles I dont just skim headlinesWhy people so dumb|0 Hopefully they wont announce it 2 days in advance like Wuhan so 500000 people dont have time to evacuate spreading it|1 Mine too Cant stop going to work or school though without instruction to do so Feels inevitable that were all going to have to just let it run its course Just seems ridiculous when we had a good heads up Im sure more could have been done to protect our country and others around the world Disastrous|1 Please We are outta toilet paper here and my vodka bladder cannot take this right now |1 Also discuss that theres a new law in Italy right now where if you are found outside your home and have tested positive for that virus youll be charged with homocide and can be jailed for up to 12 years|0 It wont help now but it is believed that once you have this you have immunity for a matter of months or a year or so So not even lifetime Yeah And the reinfected has been determined that their viral loads were not brought down enough and it took hold again I would assume stronger but Idk|1 Its a shitty situation but he has preexisting conditions he needs to consider His life is the most important thing to consider now|1 well in the case of the united states its because god has blessed us and contagion doesnt happen here unless you deserve itand unfortunately im not even being flippant that really seems to be our policy|1 You borrowed a computer program and sold it as your own youre not an epidemiology expert Thanks but no thanks|1 Guys seriously why would you keep a restaurant open we and USA arent taking this seriouslyOver a million Americans and tens of thousands or UK citizens will die of this and the quicker you all self isolate the quicker we can all get back to workI get people need to earn but its your older parents and relatives that will bear the brunt of these choicesJust for clarity I live in the UK and I own 2 business and have took the hard choice to close bothThis is bigger then money and business much biggerStay safe |1 Get out of here with your misinformation Liberals in this country were pushing for this while Trump was still downplaying the virus and shouting fake news Republicans are 100 responsible for the dismal response in this country and are late to take this necessary action|0 Well done Applause The right move Now lets repeat this in all college and university campuses K12 will be really challenging Working parents cant just take time off And only a fraction of the workforce can telework But I applaud this from Washington state Begin the social distancing|1 Im glad theres people like you Ive always been described as a pessimist even though I consider myself a realist The reason why I know youre in the minority is because most people sick right now are telling themselves its not coronavirus so they arent bothering to get tested if there were even tests available|1 Yes this will be an issue for parents who have to go to workThis is one of the reasons why British Columbia schools havent announced closures or extensions to Spring Break If the CMO decrees it they will but as mentioned it may make it worse for some if they do|0 And yet their president claims is hysteria and party away on his birthday|0 Id bet the farm that Trump claims he is the healthiest person maybe ever Tremendous health Really the best Some really smart people are even saying that they think hell never die They are doing a great job|1 so it looks like propaganda from both sides just like in the UK same|1 A virus like this no symptoms for up to 28 days and being able to infect people during that timeframe theres not much you can do to prevent it It just takes one person who has the virus but no symptoms to escape the lockdown to cause a whole new infection somewhere else IMO best thing to do is boost your own immune system no fast food eat healthy and ride through it Virus doesnt seem to be deadly just contagious If perfectly young and healthy people were dropping like flies we would know if this was happening then sound off the alarms But its simply not the case atm|1 Yes said Chinese singapore more so than china and both are way better than usa in todays situation To have a system that works is the only thing matters not some ideology propaganda|1 lol would be nice hehe|1 This sub is being obliterated by questions Could we have a questions sticky every day to dejunk the sub Or even perhaps just ban questions and send people over to rCOVID19Support Over the last 48 hrs what was a helpful front page of the sub has been completely trashedEdit thanks mods for sorting so quickly|0 It really needs more attention The requirements are beyond stupid Also need attention that the airports are doing nothing Its insane You would think they want it to spread but I cant see any incentive for it|0 They ignored it for over a month once it already started clearly spreading sent mild cases home that they knew were likely infected and didnt lift a finger to even try to slow down the virus Ohhh and lets not forget the 50k mass family not person dinner just days before the lock down We likely wont see anything like what happened in that city anywhere else Not concurrently at least|0 Shes an idiot No one says masks wont help the spread from an infected person In fact look at S Korea They have the best handle on this best example of decreasing spread of infection and ALL their citizens are wearing masks regardless if they know they are infected It helps both ways confirmed infected or those without symptoms which by the way can still be infected duh despite what experts or random layman sheep say|0 The media cant get enough of this shit|0 worry about yourself i am speaking truth and facts virus is at the door and the flights are still coming OTTAWA admitted thousands of community spread cases Live in DENIAL|0 It takes more than just having a few extra supplies on hand to be a prepper Prepper is a lifestyle a psychological mindset a cultural image a cliqueI have extra supplies on hand but that doesnt make me a prepper Im just a guy with a few extra supplies|1 Lots of readjusting and if they touch the areas around the mask the virus can survive on the surface of their skin Improper use gives a false sense of safety Social distancing and proper hygiene is key If youre going to wear a mask use it correctly and dont disregard other infection protection and control measures|1 I havent heard any of those terms in a long time cept wholesome occasionally On here you can filter out a lot of the BS aside from the occasional boomerconservative BS to the boomers who understand thank you but if I attempted to do the same thing to my FB I would have to nuke my entire friends list|1 Here is an article on 19 additional hospitals on top of the 2 already in Wuhanhttpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasiacoronaviruswuhantoactivateonemoretemporaryhospitalwith3690bedsThere were several other postsarticles on new facilities cant find them now sorry but someone counted them up for a total of 91 iirc Some could well be temporary Interesting fact found while looking this up for you China has over 33000 hospitals and since Feb of 2018 and today have constructed n1866 new hospitals Looks like n91 is a drop in the buckethttpswwwglobenewswirecomnewsrelease2019053018574650enChinaHospitalIndustryReport20192025In2018ChineseHospitalsRegisteredaRevenueofRoughlyRMB35543BillionSurgingby142YoYhtml|1 People think Coronavirus is scary wait until theres a much much deadlier bacterial infection on the loose that we cant treat|0 Ive ordered a couple of the reusable ones with the changeable filters Assuming they ever arrive the listing has been removed and the tracking number doesnt work Id be happy to give them up if there are shortages Do you think theyd use them|1 Around 100 years later history is repeating itself in a terrifying way|0 School bars nightclubs can be shut downSchools are special insofar as if you shutdown schools many parents suddenly cannot go to work The effect on economy is disproportionateIn many cases grandparents are happy to keep the children but here the grandparents are at risk so this is clearly not something families will doNote Im personally very happy that France has finally closed its schools But then Im a special case as it wont impact me overmuch|1 Thats messed up WE are the people Dont listen to corporate America|0 Numbers most definitely lie Especially when the numbers are self reported|1 Those are direct quotes from the EvergreenHealth page in the main post here Dont like then take them up with EvergreenHealth What I am saying is that if those are the numbers theyre expecting then you can see why theyre making the choices they are regarding testing outpatients|0 You need to start with the top Remove Trump and all his team They are a huge reason for why the CDC and America are so poorly prepared|1 Ive been using my phone to press elevator buttons for like a month |1 Im not sure about the US but here people are given the opportunity to skip mortgage payments without repercussions|1 The US needs widespread testing very soon or it will be ugly|0 A very soberminded serious interview that doesnt resort to histrionics but doesnt pull any punches And for this reason one of the most chilling Ive seen Thanks for the headsup|1 Cant entirely blame Firefox if it were easy to find that addon companies could just block Firefox entirely by looking at the useragent identifierA lot of sites already do that with wget a download program|1 I used that code for my team but how do I know I did it right and am properly contributing to the covid fight|0 I mean the TSA has like a 97 fail rate and we still have that|0 Great job on putting together 6 weeks of supplies in such a short amount of time Youve done your part you are ready to selfquarantine should you be askedrequired to do so Now go live your life|1 I would like memes to be tagged or clearly labelled in the title like MEME whatever title I know Im probably alone in this but I feel like jokes are not appropriate for these type of subs|1 Anyone know if these kits will become available elsewhere Like Pakistan And if its not being arranged already is there something I can do to bring them here|1 I wouldnt be too sure A patented part is a patented part even if its used in a repairHaving said that I would certainly hope a friendly judge would find damages of 1 |1 Thats a great point|1 The US will be like this but worse|0 Ok boomer|1 What does a forced selfquarantine look like Have they stationed people to watch him Or was he given an ankle bracelet|0 Anglo Saxon plan Its all about being in the right geopolitical position to take over and establish the new world order once the comet swarm strikes again in 2030|0 Not a doctor but all the people that I know who have lived in Arizona tell me that its so oppressively hot there that most people spend all their time indoors If youre cooped up inside with other people using air recycled through an air conditioner then it doesnt matter what the weather outside is like|1 On the television side Ive figured for the past year or two that the television production from 20102022ish is going to account for about half the total production for the first half of the decade since its mostly companies building libraries rather than worrying about current demand This will only accelerate that|0 Youre acting as though they wont collapse if you close schools|1 This is some Chernobyl type shit|0 Love it|1 Some indication of each regions response maybe a color coding ranging from nothing through social distancing and on to complete lockdown Im not sure where that data might be found though|0 This is very concerning I live in Houston Just 3 hours away from San Antonio We finna die |0 Yeah nothing like staying on topic than making a tired taco bell diarrhea joke|0 This is awesome Is there a github repository for the visualization I was thinking of forking it and perhaps adding a daily increase graph below your graph|1 Hmmm you might be right on that one Im having anxiety currently because of how many here in USA arent taking this seriously We have to have our eyes open in that not all infected people most even dont show severe symptoms So they go then about their day not thinking twice about that fever and cough they had a few days ago that got better quickly Or they were very down for a few days with a cold and sore throat and are now great Many not even knowing they could have had the virus and now transmit it to the public Testing is necessary Most ppl wont even know they had it|1 I thought I was crazy for originally thinking hmm suddenly theres a viral event and I dont hear about any of those HK protestors anymore I thought Corona was a conspiracy for silencing the sick but I understand people really are sick and that was foolish Here though in America Are the powers that govern really so ignorant Because this feels like a malicious population control event that is being seized as the opportunity presented itself through a pandemic|0 Sure this is just like the flu Its not the flu and dont call me Shirley|0 I bought the real thing from South Australia My son uses 14 cup every time he feels hes about to get a cold Just drinks it straight He says it makes his cold go away I started to make it at home after watching a show on TV In a probiotic experiment people were given different sources of probiotics and milk kefir came out on top httpswwwbbccoukprogrammesarticles2K91Yns068jFYVGxxbTnyvhwhatarefermentedfoodsandwhicharebestforimprovingourguthealthhttpswwwbbccoukprogrammesarticles2K91Yns068jFYVGxxbTnyvhwhatarefermentedfoodsandwhicharebestforimprovingourguthealthThe dizziness was what made it so I couldnt drive I was a courier driver I remember I had to hold on to things to stop myself falling over It was a lingering symptom that drove me nuts I believe it was something to do with my ear infection and Id never had an ear infection before Because it was viral the entire lot of it viral bronchitis etc the hospital doctors told me I had to ride it out Now if I start to feel myself getting sick I actually get a little anxiety I pull out all the stops though I think its just a bit of PTSD from being so ill for so long|0 Theres also a regular cold going around at the moment thankfully it seems minor Half my work had it myself included and recovered in a day or twoJust bad timing fueling anxiety haha|1 Masks have been 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out and stock piling to blow about 3K at Costco|0 Time slots Youre welcome|1 As soon as she landed in Vietnam she was sent to be hospitalized so why did she have to cross half of the world for thatBecause Vietnam is much more serious about Corona than the UK In Vietnam if you contact any confirmed patient the government will hunt you down and put you into quarantine they dont care if you have symptoms or notThis girl has symptoms AND met a confirmed patient yet she is still denied hospitalized in the UK can you blame her want to go to Vietnam Where every suspected case are put under the governments watchlist|0 Need more stories like this|1 This is under the assumption that about fifty percent of the population will be infected What actually happens who knows|0 And with cancer as a side effect there really is no way of knowing Some of these things take decades to show and at that point it may be hard to pinpoint back to a vaccine as a possible cause|0 Absolutely International travel in this time of public health crisis is irresponsible if not reckless|0 Kind of a unique situation for me Im an applicant in a union and Im on a job but I dont really have priority over union members they just keep me because Im good at my job But if Im gone for too long they have every right to find someone else because they have no obligation to employ me in the first place|1 These are things that you would see in a third world country Its almost a privilege to not live in the US when you get sick|0 I feel like obamas handling of NSA whistleblowing was a bigger disappointment than drone warfare|0 My question is why is the case fatality here so low compared to other countries Is America actually testing people better than other countries had Or are the hospitals not yet overloaded|0 We suffer greatly from normalcy bias here I see it everywhere My issue is that people havent done the research on this They see mild cases and move on Mild could be the sickest youve ever been Ive been following this thing from the start And theres a terrible waiting game if you get this Waiting to see if it spreads to your lower respiratory tract with no way to predict who will be affected There is some indication that people who have more receptors for the virus lower down in the respiratory tract are more susceptible but we really have no idea Of course we want things to be the same and normal and boring but this is something thats happening How we react is important I have two young kids my 7 month old baby was intubated for a week after being born For people who are brushing this off I will gladly share my horror story of watching my newborn having to be put on a ventilator So as a family we are taking as many precautions as we can within reason I always insist on hand washing during cold and flu season anyway so its not much different A little less going to crowded places and a little more hand washing and disinfecting at home Unfortunately my spouse works in education and almost nothing has been done at the school level we got one email about Europe trips for March break being canceled so theres only so much we can do right now So I definitely feel your frustration in this|0 Shit do you have a source on this I love Advil good to know|1 Damn I wish we had president Tsai or someone like her in China|1 I never realized how hard it would be to Gett the older generation to understand that young people CAN get this and CAN be healthy carriersMy Gma runs an in home day care My Gpa is retired and helps out also he is 75 hypertension high chokestrolNot only will they not shut down they are accepting MORE kids as they believe they are doing their part to help the madness and dont want to let the parents down in this crazy time Ive been pleading with them that parental feelings and a months salary isnt worth their lives but they carry on It feels like Im already mourning|1 427 dead 632 recoveredThats 2 out of every 5 people right now if you look at the current numbers|0 Most hvac has filters that should block most infections from spreading If you sneezed right into the return I highly doubt itd make it to the supply|0 You need a log y scale and align to the first death Then countries look very similar|0 I dont believe that has been confirmed As of this morning the youngest of the 17 confirmed deaths was 49 Theres been one additional confirmed death today so unless that is the doctor then I dont think so|0 No way We havent even stopped domestic travel|0 Every infectious disease expert and epidemiologist thinks that without dramatic measures this will be catastrophic Italy is already totally overwhelmed Do you have anything to backup your claims that this will all be just fine|0 Are you sure you bought enough bidets Shouldnt you stock up more heavily before the run on bidets starts|1 I get that its well known Must be nice to afford it at that age|1 For everyone thinking that only the USA would consider economic concerns when dealing with treatments know thisThe UK banned export of chloroquine the most effective known treatment for covid nearly 3 weeks ago South Korea has noneCitizens demand that governments act in their interest Nationalism isnt going anywhere|1 I live in a third world country and there was a woman from Taiwan that was suspected to be infected They got her on a stretcher and put a blanket on and when she got to the hospital there were like 15 reporters putting microphones on her faceThe woman turned out to be negative in the test but still we are so dead lmaoCant find the pictures right now maybe Ill edit later|0 Already proven not very effective unfortunately Quick Google will tell you|0 Yeah guessing this guy hasnt been to Hong Kong|1 Mortality rate for flu begins a significant increase after age 50 Not surprising|0 I always thought that plague inc was a crowd sourcing way of finding the best way to engeneering a virus to kill every body|0 30 seconds til they manage to give themselves more money for healthcare even after the payroll tax cuts|0 10x easily|1 I was gonna have a heart attack until I read subreddit|0 As a Philadelphian I can say no one wants this go on This is mainly for people from the suburbs and jersey We are concerned|0 Is everyone an idiot for going about their life before then NoYesWe have known this was coming for literally months Particularly for the past two weeks there is no excuse for not changing behavior Ignorance is no defense in an age of immediate and global news|0 Keep calm carry on and sing happy birthday while you wash your hands Sorted What more do we need|1 The support they show for each other in a crisis like this is truly inspiring|1 Oooooh who lives in a pineapple filled up with dread SpongeBob Contaminated pants|0 Seattle is not Ground Zero Everett and Redmond are not part of Seattle Everett is like 2 hours away Redmond is a distant suburb Certainly not the same as Seattle proper|1 Better to overreact than under react|1 Im glad to be in Washington State where our government is competent and is basically handling testing on its own|1 The planet cant support everyone Finite resources Maybe these pandemics and one off events help to rebalance everything|1 Cool maybe this will get them to try and put out this dumpster fire they caused We had weeks we could be sitting like SK but naw we seem to be trying to one up Italy|1 Many children die for sure they require some sort of intensive care before they sadly do Im certain some of them require ICU And regardless thats not even the point The claim to which I responded was that youngs are hospitalized which supposedly proves covid19 is special Its not The statistics are definite|1 The sudden rise of the official number in the last few days in Japan ie except for the cruise ship also concerns with the guideline change of who should be tested On Feb 1213 onward Japan loosened a guideline a bit to enable the doctor and the public health center to conduct PCR test also against those who had not evidently contact with the person from Hubei Wuhan anymore but have some pneumonia symptom if they acknowledge the possibility Until then these new positives would have been treated just as the same as other patients of more usual pneumonia without test In short the new positive became just visible by this policy change and it can reflect rather the change of the number in official statistics than the real surge of the new patients|1 Its more infectious in similar circumstances but in the reality we live in countries are taking extreme measures to stop the spread of COVID so when factoring in the response the r0 of COVID is lower|0 Smoking definitely has all sorts of long term effects people dont realize Look up quit zits|1 Wow that really saying something Thanks Ok that means I better give it a try for sure|1 Thank you so much|1 This 10 ICU number seems quite high Wasnt previous data suggesting 5 or less ICU|1 Yup the tests are said to take 2448 hours but I am guessing they are almost always done in FIFO order except severe cases important cases so even though there is a 12 day delay the ones done overnight were likely sampled overnight just 12 nights earlier This is all my keyboard warrior theorycrafting though a mans gotta kill time while stuck inside at home haha|0 Im pissed that the school did not stock up weeks ago I dont fault the teachers I do however fault the people making decisions at my kids particular schools for wanting to keep it hushhush that they dont have cleaning supplies They need to close if they do not have supplies|0 it sounds insane but if you were to lie on a downward slope head down would the fluid be able to be expelled|0 Ive been trying to find videos going around these empty cities do you know of any videos or channels|0 Yes true much more comfortable and you breathe better doesnt get as hot|1 Why on Earth do you care what anyone else thinks about it Youre talking about the health of your childrenThe absolute state of this country People need to grow a backboneMake whatever decision you feel is appropriate but your childrens welfare should be the only consideration not any social anxietyIf it were my kids they would have been taken out of school last week|1 The attitude I see from people I work with etc it would take alot for them to actually care let alone panic I feel like we might need to over emphasize the severity of the situation because people are not getting that they might need to revaluate their normal routines Theres people out there they may not have alot of money that are buying stupid stuff because they are not aware that money could be more well spent on necessities I just think more info is always better than less to help people prepare better|1 This is 100 fake news The 31st case had no international travel Odds are she was infected around the same time as most of the others in the church by some other person She just happened to be the first of them to be identified by a staffer in a hospital|0 Benign dictatorship but Im sure there will be some Singaporeans who disagree|1 If theres practical reasons for marriage as well as romantic you could do the courthouse thing now and the big wedding later|1 One of my relatives in Poland came back from ski vacation in northern Italy just when that massive outbreak started there He got a fever the next day The doctors just told him to stay at a hotel for two weeks to avoid infecting his father who has cancer No test no quarantine nothing No wonder Poland has only 24 confirmed cases when they just refuse to test people who are obviously infected|0 Its funny because people who love the Colosseum like really love the Colosseum would be like dont put Eiffel Tower in the same sentence unless its Eiffel Tower does not hold a candle to the great and glorious Colosseum And people who loves modern architecture probably would be like this is a fucking modern marvel mate MODERN MARVEL|1 Just wishing my extended family listened better|1 Lol Bernie cant even handle Hillary Thats rich Not saying he is a decent person|1 Purple have criticized our ministry of health for being hysterical and trying to distract citizens from the political turmoil by pointing to an exaggerated external threatPerhaps they were wrong after all My opinion on my government is on pause today election day and all|0 I doubt it will happen after Trump keeps nagging Chinese virus|0 but will contain the spread as much as possibleYeah that point passed a week ago There is no containment at this point Its all about treatment of the seriously ill at this point If you can walk talk and breath OK you wont get admitted to the hospital and you likely wont get tested|0 It worked in Seattle People still committing think the traffic is great now|1 Return their manufacturing to a country that isnt swept clean by countrydemolishing viruses on a regular basis|0 Awesome thank you so much|1 Unemployment is hopeless in the US This guys problem is very real I understand the health first attitude but the entire food service industry is gone and there are suddenly a few million people without a job and there are almost no safety nets for wage workers like serversMy heart really goes out to him The next few months are going to be brutal because the US is total trash for anyone in the working class|0 Manitowoc WIIt seems half of the people are panicking and the other half are laughing at the people panicking making no changes at all to their daily routines and calling the corona virus an elaborate hoax|0 i hope its the hot weather i hope that when summer comes to the north of the equator it eats this bug up good|1 Depends where it Italy Only people visiting the north have been recommended to selfquarantine at the moment|1 never forget how spez removed 6 million subs from a certain sub|1 Not every cough and sniffle should be tested but more physician discretion should be allowed Some cases just dont seem right Maybe they didnt travel but someone in their family did and is sick Maybe theyre flu negative and still getting much worse with bad lung exam etc etcNeeds to be some room to let professionals make professional decisions on the front lines|0 Is the flu not a global pandemic|0 Agreed I am in the US and stopped eating out No Subway Chiptole anything|0 Hopefully a shake up or outright downfall of the CCP comes out of this Whats happening in China is a global tragedy|0 Thats the exact opposite of what I just did Women deserve to be 100 recognized for what they do and unfortunately there arent that many in this position to begin with So sorry if I hurt your feelings by fighting for women in powerful roles|0 Appreciate the response Regarding your first paragraph that was my thinking that the aim is to achieve a significantly lower mortality rate although I would think this would require a much lower rate of infection so as not to overwhelm an NHS which even without this virus is struggling to manage within its financial envelope And more cash at this short notice would only provide some benefit As a thought 8 is still 321000 deaths If thats considered acceptable by the government then it would be interesting to see if public perspective aligns with that view|1 Thank god Can we get the other retailers to close too Macys is over here with limited hours but still open|1 In Canada Got tested for sleep Apnea with no wait free of charge Americas system is terrible|0 Damn mate well said |0 Beware angry soccer moms The quickest way to make something change is to get Karen triggered about it|0 He just said that a year would be lucky with regard to a vaccine|1 Good idea We have one in our town I still go too the only thing theyve been sold out of for days is lemongrass|1 Ugh My bestie wants me to go out to big crowded places with her a lot Its frustrating Shes Chinese Malaysian and like its no big deal lahAnd she wants me to sleepover on the weekend and go to another crowded place Considering saying no|0 Its about the greater good Republicans do more damage|1 I have a feeling that shit will hit the fan and the masses will panic and well thinkwell yeah weve been talking about this for months|0 If the shit really hits the fan Im going to hole up in the mountains and just grow weed|0 Isnt conte kind of an accidental PM too|0 Because they havent realized that a little tiny virus is more of a threat|0 Sometimes its hard to see any good when things get so far gone and I myself have had tunnel vision sometimes But preventing just one person from going out can prevent a ripple effect Some of my other comments and posts I get downvoted on but as someone who is immunocompromised I think about others like me and high risks persons like my parents and inlawsI think were screwed here in the US but we can still fight as hard as we can Like someone said on the news paraphrasing The fight will be won in our communities I agree|1 Or you can reset the number to 0 after every 10 cases numbers will be in single digits 90 of the time|1 In addition to what OP replied to you its also important to note that both the flu and HIV are unique in how quickly they can mutate and for HIV this mutation rate is less relevant from an epidemic perspective and is more limited to drug resistanceMost viruses are composed of a single strand of either DNA or RNA that composes the viral genome and encodes everything a virus needs to infect a cell This is true of coronaviruses For these viruses only errors in copying the single genome can produce a mutationHIV carries two copies of its genome and has VERY errorprone genomereplication machinery so it accumulates mutations fast and two genomes can be packaged in the same virus particle if a person is infected with two different strains This allows it to mutate rapidlyInfluenza carries its eight genes on eight SEPARATE pieces of RNA that each have to get packaged into a single viral particle This means that if a person or animal is coinfected with multiple strains of influenza they can mixandmatch genes to produce an ENTIRELY NEW strain This process is called antigenic shift and can lead to pandemic influenza like the 1918 flu or swine flu It is unique to influenza and a few other less pathogenic virusesMutations are therefore super relevant to HIV and especially influenza as they can rapidly produce massive structural shifts in the viruses that can alter dynamics quickly This does not happen for coronaviruses Evolution is often slower to act on these viruses types and while mutations could happen that change the game never say never with nature it is overwhelmingly unlikely that there will be some key mutation that leads to this coronavirus going out of control when it otherwise would have been stopped|0 Called it 16 days ago and got downvoted for saying flights from China will be stopped And it would become a 5 crisis10 for China httpsnpredditcomrasksciencecommentsetkdx1coronavirusmegathreadfflhdjx httpsnpredditcomrasksciencecommentsetkdx1coronavirusmegathreadffh2lu9|0 I like your style Zoom|1 Idiot|0 Thank you|1 I agree it would be great if we could have both versions Personally I findthe superimposition from WHO tracking is meaningless|1 daily fail P|0 Are you suggesting we kill the supply chain by striking I dont think Americans will be too happy if their grocery stores that are already having a tough time keeping up close downx200BThings are going to get a lot scarier here real fast now is not the time to divide anyone|0 I put a 30 day hold on my mail Not really interested in a number of random people touching stuff then giving it to meImagine if 1000000 Americans did the same The work stoppage|1 Im glad this subreddit has finally dropped the 14 day incubation period thing|1 Back then though majority of the population were either dirt poor or were living modest lives So when they were asked to volunteer they didnt really have any incentive to declineToday with the advancements of technology and the invention of the internet people now have an incentive to decline because accepting would mean leaving their gadgets behind|1 Man shit just got realGood for them I feel for the people that have to do that one the best of days I hope the people can find something else to do not like they can afford to just take a couple of months off Going to be ugly for a lot of people myself included so I sympathize|0 you will also be smart when you faces real life threatsI hope no one need to be smart in that way|1 You cant even remotely compare their streaming service to the money they make from parks Justno Its 7 a month FFS and over 110 just to get into the park Come on man|0 I live in the south my heart is breaking for my whole community and I dont think they understand how hard hit the rural areas will be when it comes|0 This sub is better than rcoronavirus which actively supports propaganda from the CCP and rsino|1 Based on this it would mean that 1 in 168 people with die taking into consideration the entire population and rounding up from 1675 The average UK household size in 2017 was 24 meaning 1 in 70 households will be effected by a death If we just look the 60 infected population it would mean that 1 in 101 people would die rounding up from 1005 Meaning 1 in 42 infected households will be effected by a death basing off same average household size and rounding up from 41875|0 Yes have faith in those who continue to classify important information prevent the CDC and like health organizations from doing their jobs and continually make false statements regarding the spread of the outbreak and continue to hinder local state health authorities in their ability to test and control the outbreak I really hope that was satire because otherwise youre as dumb as a door nail|1 And they are only taking note now because of the markets that are falling If we where still getting little plastic toys from china it would still be a non event so farLiterally sitting in front of the tv now and corona virus has the main story with a 10 minute chat about market drops|0 I would do the same thing ngl why does that bitch think she can say your not allowed your own property in quarantine this is a quarantine not a prison something aint right|0 Could I No Why Because Im not a history major|0 Im sure its region dependent They were readily available where I live this weekendTheyre also things that people may already have on hand rubbing alcohol for general purpose use and aloe gel to treat sunburn|1 Surprised he isnt hiding in another fridge tbh|1 Youll be fine Son|1 Thank you|1 I think it will have to become more accepted if we want to curb this thing fast and if its not accepted now it should be soon Unfortunately Im just a student so I cannot provide professional opinions on WFH or closures but until then Im just trying to give answers to people to help them make the best decisions for their own cases It can be scary but weve absolutely faced outbreaks before so we have a better foothold than it seems staying calm with caution is everyones best bet right now|1 Keep us posted with either your successes or failures Do not give up We can do this together|1 I wish I could give multiple upvotes|1 hahaha|1 Ah Great 1 extra position More than enough|1 Sure Forced quarantine That poor kid|0 He is saying to prioritize health and safety over financial issues Moneyjobscredit doesnt matter if you are dead or starving or critically ill If someone has no free cash flow to buy food or medicine or disinfectant it is absolutely okay to use credit If someone is at risk of infection by going to work it is absolutely okay to quit in order to selfisolate If someone has to choose between paying rent or buying food then dont pay rent This is all very reasonable|0 Why do you want them hurt|0 What items do you wish you had picked up sooner|1 Not a job offer my friend just an advisory for anyone who is looking to help|1 What part of my comment is wishing death upon others Theyre wishing death upon themselves with this grand accumulation of infectious potential|0 I just signed up without a problem Could you give it another try and see if it works|1 Why hasnt there been any confirmed cases of community transmission in Hawaii despite its large tourist base from Asia and the MainlandA Japanese couple with coronavirus stayed on the islands and a cruise ship with crew and passengers with confirmed cases of coronavirus docked at all the major islandsCould there be something about the climate lack of AC and tradewinds that makes transmission more difficult thereIs it just a lack of testingOr is there some other reason for this|0 I was just telling my youngest sister to remember to be smart and do social distancing She just said she has no plans to coop herself up at home for months due to fear mongering That if anything I was putting her at risk since I work in healthcare Like talking to a brick wallHad to go do some breathing exercises to calm down after that|0 China locks down an entire city with a population greater than London builds hospitals from scratch in a few days Britain wash your handswere doomed|0 May be useful to youhttpswwwinstructablescomidThePandemicVentilator|1 Tell her people still die from the fucking flu Thats why vaccines exist This doesnt have a vaccine and if you are too stupid to realize that then I have nothing else to say to you|0 You know im correct You voted for this Congrats|1 Children dont seem to be getting it as much so you may be ok But you should keep washing your hands|1 The police were arresting people in general for talking about it and the central government censored all mention of it on chinese social media before it went worldwide httpswwwpulsengbipoliticschinaspentthecrucialfirstdaysofthewuhancoronavirusoutbreakarrestingpeopleb0cy5ktLets not backpeddle You said the doctors were arrested I challenge you on the doctors been arrested Lets not go to this arresting people in general although if you want you can show that source httpsyoutubeQ5azkBWBZMt395Also this page sourced someone else herehttpswwwpoynterorgfactchecking2020the2019coronavirusviruslandsintheusafterkilling17andtakingeighttoprisonBut what they actually said was On Jan 3 Agence France Press reported that police forces from Wuhan the capital of the Chinese province of Hubei had punished eight people for publishing or forwarding false information on the internet without verification By that time police forces had posted a note on their social media channels informing people about the detention and requesting citizens in Wuhan to obey the law and refrain from spreading misinformation Which is consistent with what I been saying except for the sensational title And my source is actually superior as it came from Taiwan it has the ACTUAL paper issued by the police and it has the comment posted by the doctor The chinese supreme court basically blamed everything on the wuhan local government The local wuhan government couldnt choose to go against their usual ways and release the info without higher approval So it is still centrals fault in most peoples eyesYou have to stop talking out of your ass Who is most people Central says that it shouldnt be illegal to spread basically true rumors but that saying that the central government isnt handling the pandemic well is still a criminal offenceActually You know I hate to use that fucking word so stop making me use that word When I use it its because your comment and the facts do not match upWhat the judge said is this The last phrase indeed was if there are it should be punished but the highlighted word is IF NECESSARY You can google translate it yourself its time to learn to do a bit of background research yourself Just fyi the comments I obtained are from the sources of your article So if you cant believe these words then you surely cannot believe your own article It seems that doctors were forced to sign confessions with fingerprints that they wouldnt spread rumors about the virus And that journalists and citizens were arrested I think that is probably because doctors were needed to be at work One of the ones who had to sign the paper saying he wouldnt spread rumors about the virus was later infectedHey I am going to let you in on one thing Chinese courts have lots of power They can fuck you up Do you know what they dont do Make you do a fingerprint confession Do you know what he signed My argument is not related to the severity of the crime The fact that there was any punishment at all for trying to help or spread the fact that there is a new virus outbreak is absolutely ridiculous Seriously the chinese government is so totalitarian that they think its a normal thing to censor doctors and journalists and social media from talking about a fucking infection And only slightly backtrack when it blows up in their faceWell you challenged my comment by saying 8 doctors were arrested and I say that is bullshit I am not really interested in backpedaling If the local police had to pull over and tow everyone that went down that road until the higher ups told them its okay for people to go through then who would be at blame Both the higher government for having such a shitty policy and the local government for enforcing itLets recall the original comment You said he fact they were punished by the government at all and I said you have to distinguish the levels of punishment This is a dressing down If you want to say the central government makes local police to dress down local doctors well I dont think you know how a government functions|0 Im imagining you sick right now|0 Good lord I go to sleep for a while and now we got confirmed cases in Russia England and more in other countriesBreakneck speeds of virus spreading in China so far implicates this virus is super contagiousAlso it means that there already are such breakneck speeds of spreading going almost everywhere outside of China just the confirmation is and will be much much lagging We are just about month or two behind China in this regard what is happening there at the moment will be happening elsewhere after a month or so Quarantines and shutdowns of a scale never seen in modern history before are coming Those are absolutely uncharted waters|1 I heard of someone showing systems after 20 days of suspected infection Is this an outlier|0 A proper dikhead yeah But in that particular info he is damn right Mind you he just put down the official numbers i could have said a different source too the numbers staying number though apart from the case if chinese numbers lol s |1 Feeling proud to be a Texan these days|1 Ayyyyeeee I grew up in the 90s and honestly I can die peacefully just from my experiences during that time lived a good life Seeing where the world is going now I dont see anything ever topping those times|1 Right but if you look at that Flattening the Curve graph going around youll notice that the social distancing peak isnt just lower it happens later than the donothing and kill people curve And that reassuring denouement as it crashes toward zero If we come out too soon it will turn skyward again|0 be more proud homie Im leaving utah now after a springbreak trip and your parks BANG canyonlands and zion were two of my top nat parks ever|1 The point is the facilities take the samples in the safety of an isolated car test them on site then text you the results within hours For our president to belittle that is whats upsetting Other countries have come up with tests too but the point is just doing it wide and fast The virus waits for nobody and him shitting on the drive thru testing method is shocking|0 Oh shit Yeah youre right Im sorry for not getting it right Truly|1 Unless you or a family member has been to a badly hit region recently or unless you have been in known close contact with someone who has the virus then the chances of you having it are extremely slim Its much more likely just a run of the mill flu or bug Try not to worry yourself too much|0 Lets just kill Airbnb|0 We should save our pets from corona too buy a pet face mask on darinedcom|1 As a Chinese some Americans let me laugh|1 This is a terrific resource is there a place where we can see different days version of this|1 I just googled it and read off many websites what it is Please correct me rather than saying Im wrong Saying Im wrong without correction does not contribute to this discussion|0 Well my husband was just let go and we are supposed to move to eastern WA state in the next couple of weeks So I cant stock up the way Id like because we might have to move it all Also my husband is immune compromised lung issues so Im worried about being even 4 hours from Seattle or any epicenter and would prefer to live somewhere warmer anyway If I was settled in a house I would feel much more secure|1 The misinformation from our own news and governments PhylaktDW reports asymptomatic transmission is crap Health official in New Zealand claims Kiwis being infected is nearly impossible Infrared scanners detect the virusIt spooks people when authorities start making claims like racism is the real threat or this is like the flu There is more than one echo chamber|0 Theyre not easy answers but any delay in having the virus spread is a good thing Each week that passes will allow for more research preparation etc|1 Because nobody including most of our parents and their parents has ever experienced something of this nature We simply cant fathom whats coming so we soothe ourselves by writing it off|1 In the Bay Area its a significant amount of food and supplies that are typically consumed at work|1 you seem to be willing to wait until it is too late I mean once we know it should be doneit is normally too late The WHO waited too long to declare an intl emergency|0 Im in a similar situation and its absolutely unacceptable at this point especially considering significant actions taken by organizations like the NBA and Apple Please consider gatheringprinting up a few quality articles bringing them into work and suggesting that everyone who is reasonably able to do so be mandated to work from home I am going to ask my boss if I can work remotely for the next few weeks at the very least and attempt to push the issue higher up Wish me luck tomorrow lol|1 Millennial version of but the economy is so good|1 The Genevabased WHO declared the 2009 H1N1 swine flu outbreak a pandemic which turned out to be mild leading to some criticism after pharmaceutical companies rushed development of vaccines and drugs|0 ITs JuSt ThE fLu BrAh|0 Doomsdayers want it both ways If this is the tip of the iceberg and there are many more undiagnosed cases there should be more people critically ill or dying If its not the tip of the iceberg and the virus is somehow less transmissible than thought then thats also good news Doomsdayers want both to be true|1 I suspect one of the factor might be ECMO and German is the largest manufacturer of it Its basically an external lung when the patients own lung is in organ failure IT KEEPS YOU FROM DYING But its really expensive to buy and use so usually theres less than a few hundreds for an entire country Since German only have 1k cases so their equipment is probably still enough to guarantee patients with severe symptoms can use it But I dont know how the situation would go once their number go up|0 Yeah definitely a thing I remember at the very begining of the internet chats when not every houdehold had acces to internet or a computer when the people you got to chat with were all educated adults And then the first joint computerinternet offers came out and swarms of teens started trolling every single corner of the net It never was the same again we lost in quality|1 The death rate itself is irrelevant its always lower due to the lag New cases come out today but people cant die FROM those cases until two weeks later Towards the end of an epidemic new cases will get less and less but deaths will still keep going on as people finally die from weeks back when they contracted the virusIts like taking an examand getting your results No matter what score you get youll never get your results on the same day you took the exam|1 I work at ups and we move most of Amazons shit so doesnt matter lol|0 Any idea when we will be allowed to take these free tests My GF truly thinks she may have it but is not able to get a test she has no insurance at the time and works in general public Any info would really help maybe the NBA has some to spare|1 yeah i agree but i also feel like the mortality rate is a lot higher than official numbers say this is what i could find from a quick search hope it helpshttpsglibsquickcommhealthcoronavirusisairbornemorecontagiousrevealswhodirector|1 The raptors played him 2 days ago and a bunch of the team were out at charity events tonight |1 Huh didnt know that existed Definitely go this route Way easier|1 It is weird how perfect it is Almost as if it was planned the spiceee|1 Truly excellent work You should keep the rights to this textbooks are going to start wanting it|1 That email is from today friend They recently allowed more countries than just China but there wont be enough tests till the end of the week|1 Thank you for sharing Good luck|1 Lack of pcr kits|0 As someone who listed to her mother a former Marine Corps officer talk about her fiance and her brothers who fought actual fascists yes I do have a real clue|0 Not surprised we know china has been hiding information|0 Well I imagine if this gets widespread enough there will be lots more research into fibrosis to the point where it can be cured|1 If I wasnt terrified of losing my job I would But lets just say I wouldnt eat out at fast food if you want to refrain from getting ill|1 You are so nice Thanks so so much for such a thorough list Yes Ive heard of NAC Any brand recs of the isoquercetin NAC or selenium herb product Ive got the spurilina and Vitamin D as well as zinc Thanks so much Youre amazing Blessings to you for continued health|1 You know lights and food are also bills Dont freak out The kids will be fine You will be fine I would avoid visits to the grandparents though if you get sick|0 Ffs|0 Man you are cruel But yes China has collected many cured patients blood who are younger and using these blood to cure other patients It works quite wellhttpswwwvoanewscomsciencehealthcoronavirusoutbreakchinaurgesrecoveredcoronaviruspatientsdonatebloodhelphttpswwwvoanewscomsciencehealthcoronavirusoutbreakchinaurgesrecoveredcoronaviruspatientsdonatebloodhelp|0 The US has less quarantine power than china and worse safety net than the EUWere a third world nation posing as first worldI take it back Some third world Nations have universal healthcare|0 By the way I just saw the latest update its now 6 infected including four deputies21h50 Six personnes infectes lAssemble Quatre dputs et deux agents de lAssemble nationale ont t tests positifs au Covid19 affirme lARS Les enqutes sanitaires sont en cours et des mesures de gestion ont t prises par les services de lAssemble pour limiter une ventuelle diffusion du virus Tous les cas confirms sont en situation disolement et ont t contacts pour prciser les chanes de contamination et identifier les diffrents cas contacts prcise lagenceLe Parisienhttpswwwgooglecomampwwwleparisienframpsocietecoronavirus949personnescontamineesenfranceunconseildedefenselitaliesousclochesuivezlevolutiondelepidemieendirect080320208275014php|0 Lol China is such a fucked up place People there have it rough|0 Butthead is likely facing a future IRS audit as well Hope douche face has to hire an expensive accountant andor attorney as well|1 You would still be vulnerable to inhaling aerosolized droplets but it would cut down the amount of droplets inhaled dramatically and perhaps your immune system could do the rest Importantly if you add goggles to the mix it would help you not touch your face|1 Seriously there is no way we have an accurate assessment of the situation here Where are the numbers|0 Why is this man not in prison yetDarling of the American right|1 Its not stupid if its a practical method of getting tested it might not be ethical like that woman lying about no symptoms to fly to the US but its effective|1 Or he was killed by the CCP|0 This is why social distancing will protect you A cough or sneeze can typically travel only 6 feet|1 Same Lets stay healthy|1 Not really No money you see|1 Can we all acknowledge that at this moment in time in America there is a much greater risk of contracting and dying from the flu than from coronavirusBeing immunocompromised on a airplane in winter is scary what we need to worry about as nonmedical researchers is all the other bugs that we get from nasty dirty humans|0 I feel like some really smart doctors from our great Ohio hospitals have been guiding him through this Even though this will hurt me financially I am so glad he did it|1 My hypothesis is that people just arent getting sick enough to seek treatment Wuhan City was the epicenter and included a major panic and run on hospitals where people got infected waiting around to be checked The virus is not airborne its in droplets so perhaps the masks are more efficacious than thought But even in Wuhan city we should be seeing much more widespread transmission in the quarantined apartment blocks 15 million people in that city 2800 deaths Less than 110 of 1 of the population of ground zero has died Panic is the wrong reaction to this virus|0 Yeah I read SK has quite a young population in general as opposed to Italy who are seeing a high death rate I imagine due to their aging population|0 Youre a blast at parties im sure|1 But they only tested 42 when they couldve easily tested the entire ship Im guess they want to keep the numbers down Same reason they stopped testing in Seattle|1 Americans are stupid Really really stupid The only way youre going to learn is if a disaster pushes you to into it That is what happens when youre stupid|0 Worth noting that he said theyre modelling their data using Korea as an accurate depiction with a CFR between 02 04 which he described as a really bad flu season From reading this sub it seemed about 100x worse|0 I lived in Beijing for a while and Asia on and off for about 3 years Have friends that are still there both westerners and Chinese they started sharing stuff telling me about this in November and that when we started light prepping I know how serious shit can get there real quick Im lightweight annoyed with the angry people that wereare in denial Theyre probably going to be the hardest hit and that kills me a little insideEdit one of these friends posted on Facebook like a week ago that hed been in quarantine for 35 days Hes living in Beijing still|0 I think its much more than 10 but Korea is very affordable especially outside Seoul Think of the lowest cost US states|0 I think part of it was due to the fact this was a new virus and they were preparing in case it was more deadly I think if they knew it was mostly deadly to the elderly they wouldnt have gone so overkill with their response Or who knows the virus targets the lungs and is higher rick for smokers Most adult males in China smoke and of course they have to do whatever they can to protect them theyre so precious then again its probably good for their gender balancing|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Contact tracing has been done on every US patient to get the R0 value down below 1 So far it has worked Money has been spent putting people brought in from overseas into quarantine|1 Theres been speculation that a lot of the deaths among younger cohorts in China happened because the patients were health care workers who were suffering from overwork and exposed to unusually high viral loads This seems anecdotal though is there any available data suggesting that younger fatalities were especially likely to be health care workers I know theres been studies suggesting that health care workers in general are at somewhat elevated risk so this information must be tracked somewhere I just dont know if theres a breakdown including age|1 Locusts have been part of Africa Middle East and Asia for a long time What amazes me is the fact that this insect is full of protein can be dried and stored too but people die of hunger|0 What are you talking about What do you propose they do While theyve been trying to keep things cool people have still been freaking the fuck out getting into brawls at Costco for toilet paper Imagine they told the public its really serious folks The population would go insane|0 Glad its not CORVID19 or people would murder crows|0 1 Apart from a little anxiety were fine I had a minor cardiovascular problem planning to be checked after CNY but now its temporarily delayed not a big one tho2 Mandatory But Ill say its kind of a soft lockdown you can go out on foot and even drive out if the gov hadnt specially inform you 12hrs ahead3 Id say the information is much clearer than the SARS days Id say about 60 transparency if its up to date id even say 804 65 But Ill give an 8 to the national gov|0 Maybe theres a poet to make a modern version of The masque of the Res Death|0 Scientifically its impossible that the flu season was people with COVID19 At most there are 10000 cases in the US right now mostly on the west coast|0 I agree the tax rate for the extremely wealthy should be much higher I cant come up with the tax rate myself but you have to understand that governments need to be careful with how high they tax the rich because if the rich believe its too high theyll just go live somewhere else with lower tax rates and the governmentcountry will lose out on that potential tax money which means lower budgets for governments Again I agree that most extremely wealthy people are selfish with their money and do not do a very good job at distributing their wealth however I think people like Bill Gates do a fairly good job at making sure they are giving back to society What I meant by sacrificing years of his life I meant that in the time he workedthe time away from his family or friends He worked very hard building Microsoft in to what it is today and thats exactly why he is so wealthy The man practically revolutionized the world because of his sacrifices commitment hard working intelligence etc and built a life where he does not have to worry about if he can pay rent next month and I believe he deserves to enjoy his money for that reason|1 The worst win OSs CE ME NT Cement Coincidence|0 There will be a lot of animosity towards people who are naturally resistant or immune to the virus|0 Giving away a tiny fraction of his money Hes pledged to give away at least half of his net worth awayHalf of the net worth of a billionaire means fucking jack shit They should give away 99 of their wealth and still be able to afford pretty much anything a human being could ever want to consumeBill is doing a billion times more for society than the average humanHes created 100k high paying jobs had created wealth for a lot of ordinary peopleWhat the fuck does that even mean What are th see magical words people start summoning up out of nowhere whenever billionaires come up At most he made some good management and development decisions which proved beneficial for some people Big fucking deal he did some hours of planning something and it turned out well He didnt create wealth whatever the fuck thats even supposed to mean The people you know working the jobs at his company did that The people actually researching and developing and planning and manufacturing are the ones who are creating those billions of dollars worth of valuePlease tell me what the actual fuck does it mean to create billions of dollars I can see how you can argue that the workers collectively are creating things that are collectively worth billions of dollars for our world not Bill Gates It never ceases to amaze me how people feel entitled to someone elses moneyYeah thats exactly the point It never ceases to amaze me how billionaires feel entitled to exploit the public and the workers out of our money and then act as if it was their money all along Money gained through manipulation abuse monopolistic behavior lying thats not justified Thats not Bills money Thats our moneydevoting his life and billions of dollars towards eradicating diseases and public healthWow great Hes returning some of the money he extorted from us Im so thankful|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments 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comma It makes it so hard to read the numbers|0 I personally feel the fury on this topic I am a medical assistant in the Puget Sound Primary Care area of WA and felt like our whole screening process has been flawed since day 1 of 1st positive case in US The protocol initially was to screen those whove been to China w fevercough Then expanded to a few high risk countries And now if youve been in contact with COVID19 OR fever and negative flu testlike with any knowledgelogic in regards to how viral illness spreads most people will get this unknown ick Grantedmost people will hopefully be fine But my office did not even get majority of its PPE equipment together yet The urgent care employees were triaged as immediate need for N95 masks and the rest of us in primary care are left with procedure loop masks Mind you management at my office was fitted prior to MAs who have way more direct contact with acute type of scheduled appts I feel like there was no effort to reach out to public resourcesfunding for supplies because that would carve into the companies budget first Really backwards place to be working in healthcare right now Already got a fever cough negative flu test and feeling better after day 18 But of course no test queried by any doc I am surrounded by hopefully I have antibodies by now to continue to care for my ppl |1 In FL they cancelled school statewide yesterday But there havent been any massive events here to cancelEdit to clarify no major events near me there ARE big cancellations elsewhere in FL|0 Hell just blame the Hillary Obama the VP WHO CDC or someone else and get off scott freeEdited added the whole gang|0 Do we need to yet Didnt South Korea do that after discovering sustained community outbreaks though Im sure well ramp it up when more people ask to be tested Good for South Korea they are the example to follow for sure|1 Many of those kids are by choice I agree we should do everything we can for the homeless kids or the kids whose parents dont want them to be home But many of the kids are going to choose to hang out with their friends or stay outside|1 Hope you all have your medical insurance|1 Its true the probability of catching it right now is low but you ignoring the power of exponential growth Just give it a week or two|1 In that case everything turns to shit|0 An important reason is that if other provinces can start working then they can produce more resources and equipment to support Wuhan|1 I mean its the only thing that remotely prepared me for any of this even mentally while I rooted for my virus to wipe out humanitymacroposterioridus|1 Im happy to help |1 You are assuming these people understand mathx200BLet alone exponential growth People think in linear terms they can not understand how something can turn the corner|1 This studyhttparchiveis5Vm12 specifically shows that even homemade cloth masks block 50 of tiny 002 m to 1 m particlesSo basically wrapping a fucking scarf around your face is better than nothingThats the kind of information that the CDC should be giving to peopleEDIT Your statement is wrong because you can make a homemade mask or simply wear a scarf|0 Nope the reddit comment system tricked me user hurt itself in confusion But thanks for sticking up for me|0 I wonder how many people will get sick from being overworked|0 Red states lose because their health care is so much worse and their population isnt heeding warnings|0 5 rate already in Italy and flu is less than 01 considering it is impossible to count the cases we are getting there but damn 2 months to ackowledge that China was not overreacting by quarantining 60M people Time to shutdown|0 I think this thread is being brigaded by antiFAP peopleSex trafficking and abuse is terrible but I think legal and consensual pornography is just fine It isnt blackandwhite|0 You had me at helluAlso thank you|1 So then what do you do Keep people who have the virus for months At what point do you release them or allow them to go back to their regular lives|1 Do we know anything about how weather effects the virus Will a hard downpour remove it off of outside surfaces|0 I wasnt disagreeing with you I was just adding to your comment|1 lol your blood pressure is completely fine|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwrepubblicaiteconomia20200312newsfabbrichesciopericoronavirus251055353I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Professors are some of the dumbest egotistical assholes on the planet|0 Travel bans arent meant to contain the virus as these governments already failed to do so but rather to mitigate further spread If theres community spread in these countries do you really need another source of infection coming from outside countriesYou are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good travel bans are a mitigation procedure used in its toolbox to slow down the spread of the virusThey also promote xenophobia I dont think thats a worry anymore since its coming from EVERYWHERE now Bad reason to not do travel bans|1 You can be charged in the United States for knowingly spreading deadly diseasesinfections I dont recall the sentencing but if I recall a man was charged and sentenced for knowingly infecting people with HIV and another for knowingly spreading Hep C I say fuck people like that It is a form of murder if they succeed|0 Ok ma il fatto che stanno a morire persone anche giovani in anche una sola settimana da quello che ho lettoOk but even younger people are dying in less than a week at least thats what I read|1 If you need some form of milk but youre not too picky they have boxed oat milk with a long shelf life granola bars and cereal are also good if you like them Im a big fan of their Indian curry packets and they go great over rice if youve been stocking up on that They have a lot of dried nuts and fruits I got a couple of bottles of their elderberry and zinc chewables they wont prevent you from getting sick but there is some decent evidence that they may lessen the duration and severity of an illness from tests done with the flu both elderberry and zinc separately reduced the average duration by 13 daysId also get some honey as its good for soothing a cough and is antimicrobial|1 Devils advocate Even if it was We still knew about it in December The moment I saw the steps that China was taking to contain this I instinctively knew this was something the USA should be taking seriously immediately There is no valid excuse for being in the situation were in right now|0 I hate them She let her dog poop on her deck and then would wash it off onto the people below Then finally as a coup de grace she went to flush the dogs pee pad and it flooded her toilet and rained down inside the building And she hasnt paid for any of this to the point where were going to have to sue her So yeah let me corpse rain poop down on her|0 Thats probably true and kinda sad Ideally the reason is to get them to the doctors but just seeing this thread Ill need both hands to count the conspiracy theories and be unable to type|0 We wouldnt have this problem if people stayed wellinformed instead of being smart asses who think they know everything|0 businessinsidercom is a news outlet If possible please resubmit with a link to a primary source such as a peerreviewed paper or official press release Rule 2If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Theres a retail shortage the supply chain wasnt ready for the sudden surge It will be replenished is the whole point|0 I agree I can only imagine how much excessive air pollution contributes to poor lung health in China Im sure it creates a predisposition to developing a serious case of the virus|1 People arent taking it seriously even now|1 Neither do I Was just being clear on my original point of what it means for money to be obsolete|1 While the togo only meals cost 7 for guests who can afford it volunteers running the community kitchens will be flexible with patrons who may be out of work or financially constrained due to a near shutdown of daily lifeFrom OP Looks like theyre doing what they can to keep people from staying together as they eat at least Hopefully they dont stay in the pickup area too long to become casual or close contacts|1 ah fuck|0 Thanks were taking what precautions we can Im lucky in that Im able to work from home most of my friends arent so lucky My partner is at higher risk so were definitely taking this seriously it makes me angry how many think its a joke|1 I cannot stress the feminine hygiene product thing enough it probably gets overlooked during emergencies bc youre only really thinking about it once a month but you do NOT want to be stranded in the middle of this and having to makeshift a pad to get through the day|1 Because may be we havent heard the sage gospel of Trump his golden words are ones that matter he is your commander in Cheif your King your God your masterTrump pandemic control httpswwwnytimescom20200315opiniontrumpcoronavirusamphtml Opinion A Complete List of Trumps Attempts to Play Down |1 got one from amazon still to be delivered bought it a week ago 650|1 Watch the Star Wars Prequels|0 Almost like people are using a global crisis as a political weapon to attack Boris Johnson|0 Biotech is offering our office testing but then gave us the wrong testing supplies They also say the test will take up to 79 days This doesnt seem very effective to me|0 God its so tough because the people of China have been brutalized by this regime for so long You have to feel so bad for them But this is a turning point in world history they could come out on top of this if we dont play our cards right and a new world order will be established without the say of a democracy|0 Governments are a neccessary evil and will always succumb to corruption They need to be toppled once they last too long|0 There is no reason to test them The point is mute Its like taking the temperature of an ice cube to see if it really is cold|1 This virus is serious forget about 2 3 mortality rate If large amount of people get infected the virus is presented everywhere and you will get severe infections with no medical care Age and your immune system is irrelevant A lot of people will die|0 On the other hand late february the chairman of the serum institute has been quoted for this little nuggetIt is my gut feeling that this will not develop drastically in DenmarkCome again Gut feelingSundhedsstyrelsen have been lagging behind throughout this whole ordeal as well and youre basically better off sifting through this sub if you want fresh information Which is sort of strange I mean Youd think that the powers that be would have access to The Lancet as well wouldnt youThis whole nightmare makes me think that the governments of the world are almost unanimously bordering on having committed crimes against humanity|1 An old saying is something like short and angry will live long|0 Hopefully this now leads to more widespread testing Assuming of course that theyve figured out how to do that|1 Youre not wrong Canada has been testing more than the US its true but have done little else to prevent infection|1 Rude|0 Of course Censorship is adding to the spread I felt really let down when I spoke to a worker today about getting tested They refuse to test community spread infections which propagates community spread infections Yet we are told that we can be tested and when we arent we talk about it and it gets shut down laughed at censored|1 Youre a precious creation of God and never doubt yourself like that Please stay calm and strong this next times and tell your girlfriend to stay home a such as possible Sending virtual encouragementGod be with you and your loved onesamen|1 The closest hospital to us is more than 30 minutes away and my elderly parents live close by have visited recently In addition to that we have another son who has TERRIBLE asthma that has been hospitalized in the past for it Knowing would prepare us better and allow us to seek care for early symptoms for my parents or son instead of waiting until they cant breathe|1 I posted something a while ago about it being in the air and was instantly downvoted and everyone was like you dont need masks this was in a coronavirus sub People dont understand that aerosols means in the air|1 Thanks Iknow it will be ok|1 3 The Koreans had a superspreader with a religious cult type setting that was mostly attended by 2029 year old group So they got a lot of early infections in that groupI think we should expect that infections are not particularly age sensitive so they will follow the prevailing countrys demographics to a first approximation Superspreader events can cause weird things to happen but this is early stuff and weirdness like this fades once regular modes of transmission take over|1 Sold by amazon orders still going through I ordered a tablet for my kids and a monitor to work from home Hoping it gets here by end of week If not no worries as I can wait What they are doing is way more important|1 This logic is not really applicable because massquarantine on the city scale is not how South Korea is mitigating spread right nowChina is the only country that has done citywide containment like this|1 You release them gradually so that the new cases are within the capacity of the regions health systemQuarantineuntilvaccine has been nobodys policy ever Its unrealistic since a vaccine is very likely more than a year away It is an idea that came from Facebook or something Its sillyQuarantines are all about slowing the rate of new cases so the health system number of doctors beds ICUs oxygen can keep upA million cases spread evenly over a year and you will have a good survival rate A million cases all in the same week not so much|1 The only negative is your credit score|0 dailymailcouk news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 ALL PART OF THE PLAN IT SPREADS THROUGH TEARS|0 300 they give you 300 cruise bucks They should pay you a lot more A lot a lot more|0 Now that I like|1 Canadian here and I agree with China I propose a ChinaCanada bilateral alliance to engage the United States|1 Everyone is infecting everyone unknowingly Most people have no symptons at all and dont even know that they have contracted it and just how infectious they actually are to everyone around them Thats why its so hard to contain|0 I think they may eventually start allowing people to go out one by one to the stores like Wuhan did So hopefully we wont run out of supplies|1 No a test costs 300|0 So what happens if this virus strain decides to mutate Im genuinely curious because if you can become reinfected again and again due to poor screening Will the vaccines still be effective a year from now|1 If thats what the value of a highly trained medical professionals life is Id hate to think what they believe a less skilled persons life is worth|0 And then a loved one will catch it and die and theyll just say it was something else because this is just a flu and the Democrats are overreacting|0 Exactly who did they commit a homicide against|1 done Good luck and God Bless See you in the summer|1 Wonderful the 3 months|1 Thanks Im just trying to get us all to do the personal hygiene and behaviours that will help slow the spread of this virus Please pass this critical information on Regardless of what the government does or doesnt do our behaviour is the most important thing|1 A place where millions of people are forced together to die of disease Not all camps have ovensEdit Friendly reminder that CLO was modded on multiple subreddits at the same time and has actively campaigned for any Wuhan subreddit hes not mod of to be shut down This is not organic activity|0 We are talking about a virus that has the same symptoms as the flu We are not talking about a zombie apocalypse|0 No point in wasting tests rightAt some point yes thats right There is a limit to the number of tests a lab can run in one day Theyre limited by the number of people working the amount of equipment the time each test takes etc If you are already at capacity for testing it might be a good idea to just assume the rest of the family does have it when her test comes back positive and never test them at allWe should not be at that point yet with so few tests having been administered but it seems that we are Either something is wrong with the design of the tests take too long too inaccurate too resourceintensive etc or there arent enough workers in the labs doing the testing Its probably both but the latter has an easy solution get more labs to do testing The problem is that in the US there is always the question of who pays for stuff like that Normally you are on the hook for the cost of testing whether you have a disease and testing is not ordered if you might not be able to pay The US cant actually force labs to work for free but it also cant guarantee that patients will be able to afford the costs of the tests or that the government will reimburse the labs enough to completely offset the costs of doing the testing|1 There were plenty of pictures and video of empty store shelves in China actually Then shortly thereafter the lock down of cities outside of Wuhan started The chinese gov controls the flow of information and I know they limited the quantities of supplies people were allowed to buy from stores fairly quickly in the infection zones from talking to people I know there|0 The problem is that we are getting loaded with data piece by piece The scientific history of researching ANYTHING involves divergent findings including those at one extreme or the other and then leveling it out over many yearsSo we cant expect to suddenly know everything about Covid19 This unknown factor is scary but every day that passes is another day wiser and we are seeing unprecedented collaboration We should let projections and research inform us of the risks but we also cant dwell on that which isnt confirmed or which hasnt already happened|0 Work for a global mnc in pharma Our offices and factories in China are running at limited capacity because there are multiple access restrictions many people are working from home or cant get to their workplace And the standing instruction is if you absolutely arent critical to keeping the production line running go home Do NOT risk contaminating the production line I am pretty sure it must be similar to other companiesChina absolutely does not have spare capacity for the world right now for goods critical to the virus fight|1 Happens to me too Healthy 30 year old man I have all the symptoms But cant get tested Its weird and frustrating not knowing Its like had to make my own case to get tested This is all on an emotional levelOn a more analytic level I get it Im not in need of any real treatment The staff of the hospital is better used on the elderly and sick|0 keep things in perspectivePoeple dont like that They prefer the entertainement of stoked fear and spectrum of death|0 I have been disinfecting packages and doors for a couple weeks At first my housemates were starting weirdly Now they all do the same I still pinch myself every time I do it like omg Ill actually doing this This is like doomsday scenario in the movies|0 Mass protests in DC of infected people might do it|0 Doesnt help the people who will end up owing thousands and thousands after this is all done with no way of ever paying it They wont end up homeless now but will be fucked in the long runHopefully the economic measures taken today expanding EI to people who wouldnt otherwise qualify will help the situation|0 Sorry this isnt good news from myself but can anyone debunk the stuff going around about how China burning bodies could be seen from space or how theres now supposedly mass graves in Iran and how the high temps arent combating the virus Or at least give some reason someone posted that on here and it really ruined my vibe Edit thanks everyone who replied and cleared this stuff up|0 Dope Just found this sub too Used to hang around China Flu and CoronaVirus but Im going to stop I think its all just news about more infected we already know and intense fear mongering Ive prepped a bit I draw more peace with gathering knowledge than I do with reposting fear|0 Surely this will make things worse well be kept in the dark for a week not knowing where the outbreaks are Then when they do release the data instead of a slow trickle of 30 new cases today 25 new cases tomorrow its going to be 800 new cases this week which will trigger a blind panic in a lot of people as it will seem much more severeEdit I need reading comprehension didnt realise it was only locations being reported weekly Which is still concerning|0 I just saw that BNO posted on Twitter that there are 246 cases and 26 death Thats what reported And surely if Italy has above 350 cases in a few days I guess there are many more in Iran I dont know what to believe It became a real mess|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Where have I heard this before hmmmm SARS avian flu Ebola swine flu zika etc etc|0 a few coal fired plants running dark wont take capacity offline Things like automated hydro plants will continue and the demand will be decreased in such scenario so they may be sufficient for it I would love to have said we dont even use coal fired plants here but recently Germans and Polish built new coal plants and we buy electricity from them too|0 The point is that it wont look reassuring to people|0 Of course he knows how serious the virus is This is more TDS speak|0 Its not a conspiracy theory if it was an actual conspiracy Russia objectively interfered in our election Russia objectively promoted trump Trump objectively asked for Russian help Russians were objectively involved in the campaign Russians objectively helped trump by releasing damaging info about his political rivals after being asked to do so by trump Im not saying trump and Putin worked hand in hand every step of the way but there was an objective effort by Russia to help Donald trump win the election That happened You are the idiot if you dont see itAnd yet trump supporters parrot conspiracy theories with zero evidence about Q anon and but her emails Trump supporters are among the stupidest people on the fucking planetEdit please anyone point out any factual inconsistencies with what I said Where am I wrong Spoiler alert Im 100 right|1 Its because we have nothing else to care about our systems are built on us constantly havingmaking money Once a large portion of us dont were all fucked and our government likes it that way|1 Operation Dont test to protect the stock market doesnt seem to working as planned|0 Spain has already the best beaches in Europe Be fair |1 Idk about the rest of the US but Oregon has been releasing inmates close to their release dates and inmates that are low risk to the community if they are released to prevent this Less people better oddshttpswwwgooglecomampswwwkptvcomnewswashingtoncountyjailreleasessomeinmatestopreventspreadofarticle34cdc2c268d311eabfc03725e49b0c0camphtml|0 Yeah I hope the borders get shut down soon for non essential travel|1 I am sure you have the mathematical equations to back up that claim|1 Really I have been terrified of corona not for myself but for my parents one who has high blood pressure is overweight I have lots of people in my life that I love that are 60 Im scared for them|0 What a stale ass joke|0 Yes I liked him too|1 As I understand it diseases tend to evolve to become weaker The ones that become stronger kill their hosts and burn out faster whereas the weaker ones can propagate under the radar with living hosts that continue about their normal days|0 To all you dumbasses denying that Trudeau said exactly thishttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvJVMZC952AwEAccording to health officials the fact that I have expressed absolutely no symptoms means that anyone I have engaged with this week has not been put at riskHe answered the question at 1245 PM ET based on the clock in the top right if you are looking to find it in the video I think I cant put a timestamp directly to when it was said because this was a livestream|0 Yeah my sister and friends are going to Hawaii for a week now that their jobs moved online stating tickets are cheap you should go too now that schools been cancelled and your finals are onlineLmao nope Gonna stay at home and catch up on all those books games and shows i need to catch up on|1 Many kids will be cared for by their grandparents which is the last thing you want Or they may travel or go to places they wouldnt normally in order to get childcare Plus the disease is not too serious for kids All in all its far better to stay put and carry on as normal unless there is a direct outbreak in the school|1 Please tell me thats not real|1 Ok Ill start|0 This situation wouldnt have happened if china reversed the already banned wet market Point finger Economy is free fall people are dying because of this virus that was originated in china and a lot of people are rightfully angry at this We can do both treating everyone while condemning china for this This is not the first time SARS with 9 fatality rate was also originated in china which killed more than 700 people|0 Yeah when I went to buy bleach I saw that No Splash stuff Thought to myself Ive never seen that before and I dont know what the hell it is so I picked up the regular bottlesLooks like I lucked out|0 Yeah thats the sense in the UK truth is the people in power have got their hands tied Every countrys handling it differently when the reality isDo what China did shut shit down for a month and deep cleanThey didnt do that for the fun of it|1 There are 7000 South Korean pilgrims alone in Israel right now there are even more tourists|0 Yes and line up on every side to say I told you so|1 The moral of the story is if you get infected be sure youre one of the first infected or last infected youll get treatment dont be in the middle of the pack youll die|0 Why do we keep posting this screenshot with the cancelled NCAA tourney still in it|0 Ive had three older adults in my home all of whom were not feeling well and they were incredulous that I asked them to wash their hands They all know they dont have it according to them And these are not fuck the government or this is conspiracy type people They fully think its serious and real They just refuse to believe it could get them|0 Fuck I havent even considered that|0 Invite him round to collect the rent in person then cough on him|1 humour is such a prevalent mechanism for dealing with tragedy we even have a name for it gallows humour|1 This is happening all over Europe No political leadershipPeople are doing panic runs on supermarkets because the politicians are deflecting to the health professionals even they will often not give a bold answer which is normal for them instead of declaring war on this virusBoris needs to record a message to the nation from inside no10 like you would on the eve of a war and just tell it to us straightHe needs to give the nation more creditEven worse is happening where I live Netherlands and we are looking like being the next HubeiQomLombardy London will be next|0 Actually US is inherently less susceptable than China since the population density is lower commuting with public transportation is less common and the lifestyle is more individualized Should severe measures be taken instantly it is very possible to contain the disease before it evolves to a pandemic However if nothing is done US will be doomedI really hope some one could do something there as often cited in Chinese internet communities copying the homework We have learnt the hard lessons and we have accumulated a lot of both negative and positive experiences so please do not just overlook them I really do not want to cancel my next travel plan to the US|1 How did you personally support the patriot act Meaning I dont remember voting on itI am deeply suspicious that this is an engineered moment of chaos and you reference the last one Note how they always have some wishlist type fascist legislation ready to push through in these moments Theyre just getting startedwith martial law and people on their knees begging for money and health they can do anything However this would be their biggest and riskiest move ever and I happen to think they will fail at whatever the plan is Or its just a virus from nature and all governments are horribly incompetent|0 Socalist media publishers in the United States are far more censorious than even the Chinese Communist Party Okay Dude Tommy Robinson Gavin McGinness Laura LoomerSocialist media publishers run by communists staffed by cult members funded by Oil Kingdoms for the benefit of the Chinese Communist Party Corrupting the marketing data with grievance study fiction and debunked Marxist theory Costing American companies billionsCosting the United States economy TrillionsThe Chinese Communist Party is an amateur at information manipulation and behaviour belief modification compared to the masters at socialist media publishers|1 Yeah it gets worse Ive been estimating infection rates for the past 5 weeks and todays big jump puts King County at 100 nonsymptomatic infection by April 19th That doesnt include slowdown as saturation occurs its just straight exponential growth using the global nonChina daily compounding rate of 173 but its still alarming Given our dense population I fear the rate could be closer to South Koreas 267 which is likely high given how much testing theyve done recently but probably not by much Using their rate were at total nonsymptomatic infection by March 29th We should have a better idea what the rate is by Saturday should they start doing testing The rates above predict 162 confirmed infections then for the lesser rate and 277 for the higherIts gonna be a hell of a month|0 I wouldnt lament if this happened|1 Source I dont doubt what you are saying is true I just want to read more about it|1 Yes the figures are un Yuan That would make it 720 million USD not trillions|1 Im in the same county as the WA state guy and just developed a fever Im displeased I check this sub A LOT|0 the denial stage consisted of dismissing heckling and panic shaming those of us who spent the last several weeks getting informed and prepared Its the age old fable of the grasshopper and the ant We told you winter was coming grasshoppers|0 Ever forgotten youd just slathered hand sanitizer all over your hands before taking a bite and inadvertently touching tongue to freshly sanitized fingertipThere is no such thing as handsanitizin good|1 The 6 foot distance is good and all but if any of you have the virus just by breathing and talking you will be leaving it all over the areas where you were Im not a doctor or anything but if you want to keep the elderly residents safer maybe spraying those areas with a bleach water solution or Lysol before you leave would be safer|1 The economy may get rough for a few months But I doubt that people will be starving in most countries The virus lethality is 2 Just for comparison Ebola kills 65 of people it infects Bottom line it will be a society changing event But it wont be a society destroying event|0 Its going to spread like wildfire|1 This should be manslaughter honestly He knew the risk and did it anyway No different than driving drunk except a lot more people could die because of this|0 Gives me a bit more hope but as you said it cannot be answered yet|1 South Korea has handled this very well|1 Yeah I already have scarred lung tissue from a nasty flu I had when I was a child and almost died Now I have asthma on the regular and its only gotten worse with time|0 It might be in everyones best interest to look into those writing these articles While she is quick to highlight her Homeland Security experience she fails to mention her role as a CNN political analyst who over the past several years has written several antiTrump articles and consistently tweets about TrumpIts clear she has some political motivation|1 Good point |1 I feel bad for this man hes quarantining himself in his apartment to help everyone else because he doesnt know if he has the virus Its a Nobel thing to do but at the same time he must be so scared I hope hes able to get tested soon for his own peace of mind|1 They should be curbing the exponential growth by all being locked inside No|1 I work at a gym and I am scared They will definitely open as soon as they legally can I sell gym memberships I told my boss I am not comfortable selling anything at this time I guess if we reopen too soon I will quit|0 If they give you the its just the flu then youve gotta respond with the ok fluumer |0 Yes|1 I like how you call me kid Lol Yeah i am defending private because i was able to pay for what we needed independently Which may not be the case if the gov controlled the healthcare Lol see the VA 5 years ago Jesus Man|1 You seem like the one whose more triggered tbh because we spoiled your feel good story with reality|1 Avoid them|0 IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPSWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|1 Same boat here as my other half has asthma I guess it will be a fine line to thread depending on the immune system On one hand you need inflammatory response to fight the virus and antiinflammatory drugs will hinder that On the other hand if your immune system is too strong cytokines storm will get you|1 Holy fuck Ive been on subs where it was basically nothing but those canned responses It wont be bad for anyone that isnt old or with President existing conditions|1 Good|1 Cuomo proposed the SUNY dorms which sounds a bit nicer ICUs need ventilators and even with help from the Army Corps of Engineers I dont think theyll be able to get them|1 Dark Winter Third finding from Wikipedia There is no surge capability in the US healthcare and public health systems5 or in the pharmaceutical and vaccine industries4Due to the institutionally limited surge capacity of the American healthcare system hospitals quickly became overwhelmed and rendered effectively inoperable by the sudden and continued influx of new cases exacerbated by patients with common illnesses who feared they might have smallpox5 and people who were otherwise healthy but concerned about their possible exposure5Has that changed How can it have in a privatized healthcare system No provider will build for emergency capacity unless forced to it cuts into profit|0 One month ago Italy had no cases|0 I had two days of bodyaches and shortness of breath but no fever or cough It was also right after I started staying in my house all day so I chalked it up to a sudden onset of sedentary lifestyle The next day I started taking daily hourlong walks and everything felt betterNow Im hoping my prognosis was correct and it wasnt a form of COVID19 |1 Thank you for this post|1 Agreed Medical family here knows the reality|1 The public health director at my husbands office local council is still telling everyone that flu kills more people Were screwed|0 Gurantee the US will still be doing a couple tests per week Either way thank you Jack Ma|1 Murray Yeah I feel a bit like Joyce and the magnets lately|1 The cases multiply up to a rate of 1520 hospitalizations a day all for the same reason The results of the swabs now come one after the other positive positive positive Suddenly the emergency room is collapsing Emergency provisions are issued help is needed in the emergency room A quick meeting to learn how the to use to emergency room EHR and a few minutes later Im already downstairs next to the warriors on the war front The screen of the PC with the chief complaint is always the same fever and respiratory difficulty fever and cough respiratory insufficiency etc Exams radiology always with the same sentence bilateral interstitial pneumonia All needs to be hospitalized Some already needs to be intubated and goes to the ICU For others however it is late ICU is full and when ICUs are full more are created Each ventilator is like gold those in the operating rooms that have now suspended their nonurgent activity are used and the OR become a an ICU that did not exist before I found it amazing or at least I can speak for Humanitas Gavazzeni where I work how it was possible to put in place in such a short time a deployment and a reorganization of resources so finely designed to prepare for a disaster of this magnitude And every reorganization of beds wards staff work shifts and tasks is constantly reviewed day after day to try to give everything and even more Those wards that previously looked like ghosts are now saturated ready to try to give their best for the sick but exhausted The staff is exhausted I saw fatigue on faces that didnt know what it was despite the already grueling workloads they had I have seen people still stop beyond the times they used to stop already for overtime that was now habitual I saw solidarity from all of us who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask what can I do for you now or leave that admission to me i will take care of it Doctors who move beds and transfer patients who administer therapies instead of nurses Nurses with tears in their eyes because we are unable to save everyone and the vital signs of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny There are no more shifts schedulesSocial life is suspended for us I have been separated for a few months and I assure you that I have always done my best to constantly see my son even on the day after a night shift without sleeping and postponing sleep until when I am without him but for almost 2 weeks I have voluntarily not seen neither my son nor my family members for fear of infecting them and in turn infecting an elderly grandmother or relatives with other health problems Im happy with some photos of my son that I look at between tears and a few video calls So you should be patient too you cant go to the theater museums or gym Try to have mercy on that myriad of older people you could exterminate It is not your fault I know but of those who put it in your head that you are exaggerating and even this testimony may seem just an exaggeration for those who are far from the epidemic but please listen to us try to leave the house only to indispensable things Do not go en masse to make stocks in supermarkets it is the worst thing because you concentrate and the risk of contacts with infected people who do not know they are infected You can go there without a rush Maybe if you have a normal mask even those that are used to do certain manual work put it on Dont look for ffp2 or ffp3 Those should serve us and we are beginning to struggle to find them By now we have had to optimize their use only in certain circumstances as the WHO recently recommended in view of their almost ubiquitous running low Oh yes thanks to the shortage of certain protection devices many colleagues and I are certainly exposed despite all the other means of protection we have Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols Some infected colleagues also have infected relatives and some of their family members are already struggling between life and death We are where your fears could make you stay away Try to make sure you stay awayTell your family members who are elderly or with other illnesses to stay indoors Bring him the groceries please We have no alternative Its our job Indeed what I do these days is not really the job Im used to but I do it anyway and I will like it as long as it responds to the same principles try to make some sick people feel better and heal or even just alleviate the suffering and the pain to those who unfortunately cannot heal I dont spend a lot of words about the people who define us heroes these days and who until yesterday were ready to insult and report us Both will return to insult and report as soon as everything is over People forget everything quickly And were not even heroes these days Its our job We risked something bad every day before when we put our hands in a belly full of someones blood we dont even know if they have HIV or hepatitis C when we do it even though we know they have HIV or hepatitis C when we stick ourselves during an operation on a patient with HIV and take the drugs that make us vomit all day long for a month When we read with anguish the results of the blood tests after an accidental needlestick hoping not to be infected We simply earn our living with something that gives us emotions It doesnt matter if they are beautiful or ugly we just take them home In the end we only try to make ourselves useful for everyone Now try to do it too though with our actions we influence the life and death of a few dozen people You with yours many more Please share and share the message We need to spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy22|0 I worked at a cineworld and those retail staff are on zero hour contracts wonder what help theyll get|1 Two countries acted as they should have Taiwan and S Korea As a result they do not have any kind of a pandemic in Taiwan and they are winning the fight in S Korea Those countries had responsible leadership|1 Refusing to get tested Bro you cant even get tested if you wanted to|0 And you know what It depends on the areaBut the reasoning given by the people crying Why arent they closing schools here was Look they are closing them in XYZI need to stress that this is panic logic not rational behavior What is going on in XYZ is of little concern to a place 1000 miles away with different demographics geography climate infection rate etc|0 How many people can reasonably avoid work for upto a month I have some savings meant for this kind of situation but even then no guarantee of a job when I get back Luckily I work overnights with only 2 other people but we use equipment used by the day staff that we have been sanitizing frequently|1 America is going to end up with a higher death toll than China on this virus|0 Thats great because the Ask a Doctor thread that was on earlier today they just said we treat and intubate but unless it comes in the guidelines we dont plan on administering test drugs Im hoping to get proactive doctors if I need to go in|1 Reddit 4 months ago China bad Free HK Also Reddit now China good Savior of humankindYou cant not love Reddit circlejerking|1 Flu infects 34mm and kills almost 100k each year This is another type of flu new one that we have to develop immunity toward Even if we 100x it there would be 100k people infected in USA now So that would be bad but it would be less than regular flu So we are using numbers to be rational here|0 Hopes and positive thoughts|1 The only real challenge is dragging out infections long enough so a major IC hospital bed shortage doesnt become a problem If that becomes a problem things will get real nasty real quickIts going to be a long 2020|0 Assuming an R0 of 25 which is what most studies seem to be coming to now mitigation methods can absolutely lead to the R0 declining to around 1 or even further But even if its above 1 that does not inherently mean its suddenly going to exponentially grow An R0 of 12 for instance is very very slow growth typically It might jump to 19 then decline to 11 then rise again to 15 then decline to 08 etc When it comes to containment measures the R0 often fluctuates wildly Measles in the early 20th century had no vaccine It had an R0 above ten and still only managed to infect a few hundred thousands americans at a time when it went through its epidemics|1 Just eyeballing it but wouldnt that difference be explained more by the younger age skew of those tested than by any advance in treatment I only felt compelled to add to your note because I feel people are getting a bit over optimistic with these numbers see the chat further down in the thread for examples Thanks for the links by the way|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Care to find out about the cum wall |1 I am not following any advice from China They should be ashamed and should offer aid to the countries they infected quite franklyI agree that we should follow South Koreas lead And I would caution people from expressing antiAmerican sentiments If we do not want SARS 30 we need to remember who started this world crisis|0 I now see why youve been single for over 4 years my friend|1 Im really struggling with this too I live with my 72 year old mum who has various health conditions and is literally my only family Her death is my biggest fear and this is making it feel inevitable and around the corner Lots of love to you lets hope for the best|1 I wish it was as simple as you seem to believe|1 If its true or not I dont knowcertainly not one of those who underestimate the situation|1 he happens to the best of us brain farts have them often too but i was questioning myself right then thats why i wanted to know lol and i realized your thinking just a minute before you answered just nowtake care vote bernie |1 Those videos are very good very comprehensive I wish CDC make a similar one httpswwwyoutubecomwatchviZAH63ScfYhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvS4ILSs8uq2ofeatureyoutube|1 Helperdroid and its creator love you heres some people that can help httpsgitlabcom0xnakathehelperdroidrawmasterhelplisttxt sourcehttpsgitlabcom0xnakathehelperdroid contacthttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetocancerous176|1 This is great Thank you|1 Agree 35quai Millions get a cold every day and no city gets locked down for itnot even for regular annual influenza Its an unknown highlyinfectious virus against which nobody on Earth has immunity It seems to have an overall not Wuhan alone but worldwide mortality of about 23 Among cases outside of China mortality is so far even lower 1177 or about 05 as of 12 days ago The problem is its high transmissibility seems to be its easily spread so even if only 2 or even 05 of the world population dies it means hundreds of millions of peoplehence the urgency to contain this virus This is a dire situation from the human health economic and social point of views Mortality in early days of the epidemic may have been higher because of the surprise factor We may see it come lower as time goes by and local doctors learn how the disease behavesassuming all other factors being favorable availability of supplies and personnel We cant help with the nature of the virus but the world can help with supplies and personnel if China gov allows itIt may be worse in China because of high population density and an overwhelmed health systemcompounded by Chinas refusal to give real numbers what they say officially is not what people report and accept help Even if there is an international law it probably exists but I dont know this that makes countries report health data accurately if may be unenforceableIts not doomsday but quite serious if it goes fullblown pandemic If I were you I would try to get out of China to a place where the health system is not overwhelmed and Im not surrounded by infected people|0 you arent good at reading are you That 68000 deaths was over the course of 4 years in Italy per your source|0 Yeah I completely agree Teachers are a huge part in shaping our children and the idea to skimp on funding for them is crazyRaising children in a stress free environment should be baseline but in England you have to pay for private education if you want your children to grow up PTS free|1 Dosent matter how healthy you are the older you get the harder it is for your immune system to fight off disease especially something as aggressive as CV|1 Nice|1 but these guys also have the best medical care that most wont get|1 Try an Asian market Theyre usually fully stocked because of racism|0 My issue is they are not looking at the evidence The evidence from experts in the field is we should shut schools now and it will be a lot more effective if we do it earlier The issue is not that they are looking at the evidence its that its bollocks that they are looking They are just listing to what they want to hear|1 But can we believe its negative With all his exposure his age the state of his general health hes got to be positive Only positive thing about him|1 Well China most likely Almost positively are lying about the numbers The government is well known to lie about everything along with the corruption with the WHO there is no reason to trust a single thing coming out of there and thats ignoring the fact the statistics just do not add up or make senseStill Trump lies about everything also but in this case I dont think not 100 sure as I dont live there they were even testing people in a lot of places Theres reports also which I dont know how true that it can cost 3k for a test The absolute worst thing about this virus is not knowing whats really going on I am however more inclined to believe the numbers coming from South Korea and Italy When we look at thishttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus its rather worrying to be honest Im so sick tired and bored of the its just the flu idiots that are still around and those on reddit and media saying its a 12 mortality rate I havent checked this week but even the corrupt WHO were saying 3 on their website and thats with chinas numbers but as we can see if you use the real figures of those who have recovered vs those who have died not those who have itdied you can see the figure is 6 again with chinas numbers where we know they keep changing their testing methods some seriously dodgy reports coming out of there of some real nasty stuff and the fact the government is desperate to save face but looking at italy at time of writing they have 149 recovered and 52 deaths Thats what 33 death rate Quick edit wait I suck at math25 if you look at it as 200 South Korea have 34 recovered and 28 deaths Thats scarily to close to 50 and these counties have a damn sight better healthcare than china and healthier people overall The other pathetic thing is It only kills the old or those with preconditions Yeah like we dont all have familyparentspeople we know with that Oh and lets not forget the news stating well 4 in 5 dont have bad symptoms Oh So 20 chance of being critical condition is a good thingI dont trust the US and I dont trust the WHO and I certainly dont trust china not even a tiny bit The worlds response to this is terrible and dont fall for the china good crap because it wouldnt be here if it wasnt for them their delayed reaction of arresting people for weeks before cover was blown their unhygienic and cruel practices of eating exotic wildlife This only an authoritarian government could have done as good as them crapwhen its because of that it spread so quickly because of their face saving and oppression of facts Trumps response to pretending it doesnt exist is terrible and I think Europe reacted slowly to it but at least we now have some more reliable numbers coming from real countries|0 Thanks for the clarification|1 I had a dry throat one evening the next day I had a fever slight headaches and a cough Thought I got a cold because I was hiking in the Black Forest the last two days before After two days it was down to mild coughing so I went on my day trip to Basel and since then symptoms came and went I had stitches around my chest moments of breath shortages sweating and basically anything I number of Covid cases discribe their symptoms as But I think I got it rather early and its already declining or its just an influenza Ill know tomorrow|0 It makes the death rate very high|0 I got a promotion last October that included unlimited PTO Since its now unlimited they got rid of my uneccesarry PTO bank that had 160 of PTO in it because were too busy to take 5 weeks off every year If I end up dying from coronavirus at least Ill be able to stick it back to the man before I go out If 80 dont need medical treatment and they had military in the streets if China enforcing the quarantine where did their 80000 cases come from Is that 80k estimated or the 20 that had to be hospitalized meaning 400000 likely were infected|0 I had to fly for work Sunday and Monday The planes on Sunday had 70 to 80 people max on them and Monday Id say it was closer to 50 people Theres no way thats profitable for them The fares have gone way down as well For perspective I was supposed to have been in DC for training for 3 weeks and I was going to fly my sister out one weekend to visit me A few weeks ago I paid 350 round trip for her flights Right now the same trip is 215|1 Youre incredibly wrong about why they didnt do anything earlierThey were arresting people who said anything about it for about a month and a halfYou dont lie and arrest people including fucking doctors over a new disease for a fucking month and a half and do noting to stop festivities that will obviously increase the spread enormously out of optimismThis was detected in very early DecemberIts obvious everyone was trying to cover their ass to avoid being cracked down on and didnt want to do anything proactively out of fear of higher ups The Wuhan mayor said as much now that hes been turned into a sacrificial lamb Thats how authoritarian systems work everyones worried theyre going to be the fall guy so no one does anything without approvalThe CCP censors fucking everything and has concentration camps of millions of people that harvest organs They pretend theyre just educational facilities and lie incessantly about them Is that some form of misplaced optimism about their willingness to accept Chinese cultureTheir image as strong and competent is the only reason people accept their rule They cannot acknowledge the fact that they let this spin out of control initially without seriously undermining their powerThats why they have refused to let the CDC in to helpFucking why do that if your main goal controlling this They need everyone they can get The only reason they dont accept help is control They need to stay in control and look like the only ones capable of fixing this to prevent people from getting pissed at them and disillusioned with the image the CCP has painted of itselfThey have clearly lied about figures from the beginning and continue to lie making it extremely hard for epidemiologists to figure out how dangerous this thing isThey have been putting out propaganda claiming the US did not offer to help despite thisThey are still arresting people who criticize the CCPs handling of the situationThe CCP is fucked and this is just the tip of the iceberg Dont pretend like pointing that out is sone sort of conspiracy Its patently obvious to anyone with half a brain paying attention to China|0 This congresswomans letter reads like she just found out about this crisis There hasnt been any stock to buy for a long time now|0 Check your blood pressure puts on SPY all the way down|0 Its a tough question Increasing sources from recent years suggest the Flu is airborne though without unethical trials we cant know for sure If thats true then it is probably true for the common common cold viruses rhinovirus adenovirus and of course coronavirusEven if airborne it is still probable that most infections are transmitted through the handtoface route httpswwwjwatchorgna4598120180207airborneinfluenzatransmissionhttpswwwjwatchorgna4598120180207airborneinfluenzatransmission|1 Eeeeew Netflix and Warzone is probably more fun anyways|1 It wouldnt workBecause1 Some infected cases have been manifested even after 14 days of incubation2 After two weeks of isolation for everyone you would have a society withpeople without the viruspeople with the virus who may or not have symptomsSo if you treat only the ones with the symptoms you are ignoring the others who have the virus but not the symptoms but they can transmit the virus you will probably have new cases in the next weeks Therefore it would be completely uselessThe only way to kill the virus once and for all would be Mondial 21days quarantine and after that do tests to everyone so youll be able also to caught the ones that have the virus but not the symptoms After youve cured or treated all the infected the virus will not exist anymoreBut as you might know its an impossible scenario to realize|0 No one said thats how he got it lmao|1 I am not glad he is probably going to die soonishIm notReally Im not|0 Ill buy your online store for 100 Deal|0 My son is due in early April and this virus has had me worried for him Kids seem to be more resilient but still newborns are extremely vulnerable Stories like this give me some hope|1 Thats the only logical assumption I can make Not only did they not attempt to contain or slow the virus all of the decisions actively encouraged it to spread as quickly as possible|1 Dont worry chairman Xi has long factored it in China will grow larger|1 The mask is for your safety is the only thing you need to say|1 Sums up the CCP pretty well|1 As the UN noted a good chunk of Americans live without basic sanitation services due to poverty These people are fucked for this epidemic|0 I wouldnt put it that way Id say that vaccines towards SARS caused bad side effects in animal tests|0 Yep so Ive given in People wont believe the half of it Just read a comment in the paper Its only the flu for Gods sake More people die of flu every year blah blah blahDont waste your breath|0 If CNN ever stops playing long strings of commercials then Ill be scared Thats the sign that its gotten serious|0 CHINA GOOD USA BAD|0 But the Spanish flu H1N1 still affected mainly the young from the outsetThis is not true The first wave primarily affected the very old and very young It subsided over the summer then came back in the fall and started attacking the young and healthy The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics those most at risk were the sick and elderly while younger healthier people recovered easily By August when the second wave began in France Sierra Leone and the United States95 the virus had mutated to a much deadlier formhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSpanishfluDeadlysecondwaveIt was only after the second wave it exhibited the pattern you describe Im aware of how mutations work and aware that this virus is not quite as prone to mutation as are influenza viruses However its still classed as a moderately mutating virus and thus still cold in theory mutate in a similar way to the 1918 flu FWIWAll influenza A pandemics since that time and indeed almost all cases of influenza A worldwide excepting human infections from avian viruses such as H5N1 and H7N7 have been caused by descendants of the 1918 virushttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle121050979articleSo its true that a virus WANTS to become less deadly as the 1918 strain eventually did But that doesnt mean it always WILL do that This is why we monitor flu so closely to see if its gone all 1918 on our asses again And this is why were monitoring the mutations SARSCOV2 is going through very closely httpsnextstrainorgncov We are on the alert for possible gain of chnage of function Which simple cannot be ruled out even if the chance is smaller than flu mutating it is still present This isnt a stable virus its moderately mutating one|0 This may sound dumb but does your body develop antibodies after you have recovered or are you prone to the virus multiple times|0 They are US citizens it is our duty to protect them|1 it can buy happiness too as fancy fun things and trips and parties get you friends and that leads to happiness|1 If they were honest it would create widespread panic and cause disaster|0 Well there are a lot of us around more so than the other blood types if Im remembering my 20 yearold biology classes correctly so in terms of spread that sounds about right Is Red Cross taking donations right now|1 Christ manI dont know what the hell Rush Limbaugh or whoever is telling you butthe only way to handle a pandemic like this is FEDERALLY IE an interconnected network of legislators experts HC providers compiling resources that no single state could possibly muster on their own If you learn or take nothing else away from this just remember this one thing There are no libertarians in a pandemic|0 Maybe its just paranoia but the whole corona virus thing just doesnt sit well with me I dont think we are being told the truth|1 Totalitarian capitalist countries not only exist they abound Lets retire this asinine cold war rhetoric|0 This is what many mainstream Democrats do Theyre talk a good game but are very reluctant to actually do anything Look at how long it took most Dems in Congress to get on board with impeachment At some point they will need to realize that talk is cheap|0 Rich and famous so they think they know more|1 I have a brother who unfortunately travels extensively in his jobHe thinks the plane loads are looking lighter than before|0 If in a few months people associate small business employees with Virus spread How much better will it be|1 God I hope Netherlands follows soonbut probably wont|1 thanks your comments are most welcome|1 Hospital beds per 1000 peopleSouth Korea and Japan two countries that are dealing with the outbreak relatively well have 12 hospital beds per 1000 peopleChina has 43Italy has 31Austria has 7Germany has 8The UK has 25|1 Not for anything but he did call it a hoax just two weeks ago Unfortunately he has many followers that believe and hang on to his every word|0 So if she said she would not vee joke about the coronavirus then she was serious about having it|0 Agreed|1 I wouldnt say they tried to hide it Not that I blindly trust any government but the guys there were dealing with something unknown|0 Aw Im so happy about this I waas so worried about the children being suseptble|1 Ive been following you for accurate up to date info Im so sorry that happened censorship will be the death of democracy We have a right to transparency with this disease and very few twitter pages focused on transparency are being censored and it makes me sick|0 Ill let you decide for yourselfhttpsyoutubef3lUEnMaiAUGrab some popcorn and prepare for laughs Elon handles the ludicrousity well and tries to keep it entertainingPeople may try to defend Ma as not being a native speaker but his English is clearly excellent and that doesnt defend someone from talking out of their ass|1 The RISK of INFECTION is LOW 09MARCHThe VIRUS is RAMPANT and WE have LOST control 10MARCH|0 USA has 554httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountries cases and 22 deaths This source is one of the only one consistently reporting numbers I checked the CDC website earlier and theyre still reporting last weeks numbers Its ridiculous|0 Careful with that match Eugene|1 Thanks|1 when they closed the city news came out that 5 million people out of the 11 million had escaped i knew at that point it had all been uselessor of limited value Their logic was applying almost a nuclear option to the problemthinking the virus would burn out meaning run out of people to infect within Wuhan but it didnt work In time we will know how many died of being welded within their homes They acted late|0 If youre living paycheck to paycheck this can be a huge problem|0 Either way hes doing an international study without consent|0 I think your best bet is to avoid infection That means meticulous hand washing and general cleanliness It also means preparing to stay at home for a time and avoid contact with others You neednt be extravagant TP dried beans and rice some dried meat and other basic supplies Boil water Buying bottled water is wasteful Youll also want bleach and extra laundry detergent If you go outside when you come home wash your hands get in the shower and immediately wash the clothes you wore outside Use diluted bleach on surfaces especially the bathroom and toilet Close the toilet before flushing especially if you live in an apartment complex with shared sewage pipes as the virus is known to be shed in feces Avoid buying masks until the state makes them available because health care workers and first responders need them firstIf it hits your community stay home with family Dont have visitors Wait this shit out|1 this made me laugh people are so fuckin weird bro|1 So just lock them up a week ago before they get a chance to superspread Duh|1 Im not scared if anything its a change from the mundane and ordinary Ill just try not to die|1 The truth is its like this everywhere Only when we face a large public health issue like COVID19 do most people become aware Did you notice before and take individual steps to prevent normal germ and disease transmissionMy son is in JR High now since he entered the public school system there are two things I always donate to his teachers for their classrooms hand sanitizer and Kleenex|1 Expose him to the virus and let his snake oil be the only treatment he gets|0 No worries I would advice everyone to read the Govuk advice on Coronavirus and follow that to the tee That is what we did|0 Man this is sad and fucked up investigated for spreading a rumor Dude was trying to save lives and doing the morally right thing Only 34 years old Not much older than me and doing so much with his lifex200BThat 560 death count is a fucking disgrace and a lie to save face I wouldnt be surprised if the actual total was 3x the amount|0 CA governor is already taking about eviction stay Hell yeah it matters whos in charge|0 Dude did you really repost this like 30 fucking times I understand that this is an important message but seriously fuck off karma whore|0 It lives in poo too being sanitary is important|1 Yes you are right I myself have had to go to the doctor or urgent care center just to get a doctors excuse for work When I only had a slight fever from sinuses I didnt really need a doctor A little over the counter meds some tea and rest was all I needed But yes I had to miss a day of pay waste money and time at the doctor for a piece of paper Same thing with my kids for school All they needed was a little tender loving care but no had to go get that piece of paper|1 Some viruses can remain inactive on surfaces for long periods of timesHSV 1 can sit on plastic surfaces for days the eye infections that causes traditional viral conjunctivitis can live on surfaces for a long time There are plenty of examples of viruses that can live in a wide range of environments granted it doesnt become too extreme for it to denature|1 I think it has to do with thishttpsblogssciencemagorgpipelinearchives20200317angiotensinandthecoronavirusThey are talking about how the virus hijacks ACE2 to infect cells and how some medications increase production of ACE2 receptors in the body|1 There will doubtlessly be an uptick in people experiencing homelessness with an economic downturn Statements like unseen proportions seems an alarmist statement more targeted at getting clicks than data driven analysis If its happening to you though it doesnt matter if its 1 person or a millions so theres no economy of tragedy I think overall this speaks to the importance of safety net systems and the role of government in stabilizing things at times like this|1 This is 1000 not true Canada has done a great job with containing the virus so far Unlike the US who has quite literally done nothing and actively refused people testing They are actually going to single handedly turn this from a pandemic into a plague Canada has been extremely responsible and transparent in their effort to fight this|1 I wish I lived in a country where they encourage testing Fucking CDC is a JOKE|1 Your comment has really helped me feel better Im in my early 30s and aside from being overweight surprisingly physically healthy Mentally though not as much I have generalized anxiety and a crippling lack of trustworthy authority figures so Ive been having a difficult time not diving into every Reddit thread and Twitter thread I feel like most of the people in the main subreddit are actively hoping this whole thing goes full Mad Max and definitely exacerbating the panic and anxiety of the general public Makes it really hard to not freak out sometimes|1 Coronavirus as a family has low mutability due to proofreading mechanism google the keywords yourself to find research paper on thisx200BOne possible way to counter it would be to expose large amount of healthy individual in the low death rate group ideally identifying those with higher risk of death and exclude them to the virus and therefore creating herd immunity works with virus that doesnt mutate too fast too often coronavirus likely fits the casex200Bie dont delay but speed up the virus spread among healthy population in the low death rate groupx200BThis is likely to minimize total deaths across the globe Basically contracting the live virus itself for the low risk group is equivalent to a relatively speaking higher risk vaccinex200BQuarantine at this stage is futile You end up with tail cases from other country to start another round of outbreakx200BThe only hope with quarantine is the virus somehow subsides with change in weather but its not a given The possible scenario by quarantine would be lengthening the time needed to reach herd immunity perhaps with also increased risk of mutation|0 Horse to water my friend|1 So its good for world news except for everything that makes China the bad guy|0 1k would be sweet for many of us Also they did say that the IRS will be deferring many tax payments you should check if property tax is one of them|1 This is like Shincheonjilevel bad Wtf|0 You cant argue with stupid|1 People have been bitching about them for the past 2 weeks and now youre all on their side lmfao The WHO has a job to do and more than enough money to do that job even with the proposed cut to funding If they want to cater to another country then thats on them Its their job to be the WORLD Health Organization regardless of who gives the most funding We shouldnt have to pay them off to get treated fairly|1 Alcoholics better stock up now|1 like commit something s|1 Seriously My wife noticed that too Might be time to get the geezer into a home|0 Thanks for the info At first glance it does seem like a cluster spread I read somewhere that the church members are somewhat reluctant against the govt Is that true|1 It can be hot and humid in the Far East and people still wear them A people thats incapable of adapting to changed circumstances is doomed not just because of the virus|0 Oh thank God phew|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Wow Im happy I dont live there lol|1 Doesnt need to be according to Pandemic BondsRequirements 12 weeks since start Presumed start of event Dec 31 2019 Apparently they can have up to 2 weeks to calculate growth rate etc so earliest is March 24 and latest is April 6th Min 2 countries affected with at least 20 deathsIBRSIDA country involved basically developing country with confirmed 250 deathsGrowth rate above zero and confirmation ratio of above 20 confirmed and suspected cases for the rolling 2 week period when all other criteria met must be at least 20 of total cases to verify that pandemic is growing|1 Australians are incredibly ignorant Even with the msm now running the stories of hospital closures in Sydney people still dont take it seriously|0 What Where did you find this information Because i have already booked a flight yesterday after the prsidents speech for saturday but this morning it seems like nothing is cominggoing from France to morocco Do you have a link of something |1 Yep death statistics are the only reliable metric really as each country has wildly different test rates|0 The language you are using is inappropriate for rCOVI19support This is a support sub not a place for stoking fear and drama Whatever you feel about the situation this is not the place to vent|0 the world will be a better place if 100M grandparents die sooner and cheaperPeople dont think it be like it is but it do Well all be better off the sooner the boomers and older are gone|1 In addition to contaminated surfaces another threat is a guy in the cardio area getting onto the stairmaster behind you and coughing during his workout|0 I would avoid the clustering for this one|0 I think people forgot that China was on the brink of revolution before the outbreak of this new virus Please dont forget that China China China is behind this|1 Yeah and Ive said this before what if nobody ever mentioned this is a new coronavirus What if the world just operated under the assumption that its just a bad flu season|0 Been here since January Since before that video of people dead in that hospital hallway went viral|0 Depending on where you liveEdit and other necessities basic necessities are food water shelter Shelter alone can cost over 1000 depending on where you live|0 I was joking but anyway this is a valid theory It is very possible that most people dont have any conscious thoughts just like probably animals dont They just go full time automata Prove me wrong|0 Hence why the Canadian government will know all those Europeans will be stuck in CanadaThose are extra disease vectors theyll have to deal with|0 Wow This is literally the best news Ive seen all dayStates are truly left to defend the virus on their own Govt truly have no idea what is going on and their focus is elsewhere Good job NY I hope all 59 stares jump in on this|1 Welcome to reddit dude|1 The banking party is heavily comprised of people 60 years old and up Not sure if they realize theyre also prime targets for this virus|1 Its pretty much the belief of all Republicans that Ive seen Fucking idiots all of them Willfully|1 Again China has started strict ban end of January basically like they started to closely measure the movement of people and cases the moment they start to enter other provinces same as you said what Taiwan or some other countries did while there are other countries didnt do anything drastic until now In Europe even there are already many cases popped up still no strict actions have been taken untill last week it has gone so far And people were still going on big gatherings when many cases are already around They kept saying its like flu for so long and its also why as Chinese people seeing what happened in China it made us so worried seeing other countries media saying its mild Sadly saying there will be more and more cases as outcome of last a few weeks slow reaction It depends on each counties system and political situations understandable not every where can take harsh shut down overnight have to admit China has to pay huge consequences for this dramatic quick shut down tooIts not like we made fake image to let them chill if its so why are Chinese ourselves so freaked out and trying to tell people around its not mild plz be careful its not logic As opposed we are so freaked out at the same time but not dare to wear masks to protect ourselves because people in Europe will think we are sick and even people got beat up by wearing a mask And nobody literally next to us believed we should be alarmed because the media said its just like a flu It happens to everybody living outside of China just ask a Chinese friend you know maybe they didnt talk with you much about it because they were already rejected by many who thought they were nuts People cant not listen to the warninngs and at the same time blame that we dont say it T T|0 Not sure about the answer but it really depends on the lifestyle of the person That businesswoman in Germany infected more than 10 I believe Not saying that is the rate btw Just saying that some people can infect a lot more than others So if were lucky the people who are infected are not visiting a lot of places|0 Quarantine would affect new cases Wouldnt heal you if you were already infected|0 while this may be a different strainAre they aware that this is a whole family of viruses not one species and that some of them have already caused some of the deadliest epidemics in recent historythe same thing happens with the fluYup like in 1918smh|1 Trump is going to kill his base This will be an apocalypse for morons|0 Yeah that isnt anything like SXSW I would like to see it canceled too but attendance at SXSW last year was 400k people|0 They really shouldnt be But at least my loved ones listened In another comment I said nobody fucking listened but thats not true To be more accurate nobody except my loved ones listenedIm grateful for that because Im afraid I know myself and I would resent them if they hadnt I think they listened to me because they trust me to never freak out so when I seemed freaked out they took it seriously Sort of like how people who yell all the time are ignored when they yell but people who never yell scare people when after years of being calm something is serious enough that it causes them to yellAnd I cant even imagine the rift it would have caused in my marriage if my husband hadnt naturally taken it just as seriously as I diddo I feel bad for all the people here whose spouses ignored or made fun of them|1 USA needs to follow European countries except uk who are waiting for herd immunity On shutdown since last Thursday isolation works|0 I understand your point but they havent done any checks at the airports Just some form to fill and then back into the crowd They should have told them they need to go in quarantine for two weeks no matter if they have symptoms or not|0 Im not the best at math but how many people attend these briefings in person|0 Your immune system functions poorly the higher lower your blood sugar is If your blood sugars frequently below 60 rarely happens unless your a brittle diabetic your immune system cant function On the flip side if your sugars are frequently above 180 than your immune system and quite frankly your body in general cant function optimallyThis is only exacerbated by the fact that even mild infections can make your sugar even more difficult to control So it basically is just a loop that keeps making you worse and worse off|0 Someone impersonated my site you can read my comment here httpswwwredditcomriamatotalpieceofshitcommentsfjah5dhackersusingredditorsmaptocreateafakefkml587httpswwwredditcomriamatotalpieceofshitcommentsfjah5dhackersusingredditorsmaptocreateafakefkml587x200BIm surprised Forbes covered this lol|1 Haha I have no idea apparently|1 LOL so wut What does that have to do with this whole thread though This is about comparing SK and US CDC reactions Be respectful to OPIf you want to talk about how Korean tourists have acted in Vietnam and Ive read your posts in rKorea already then make your own thread Dont be so impolite as those Korean tourists and derail someone elses thread|1 Cool I live in BC This is real comforting|1 Cool should see it sometime|1 Oh great another rpolitics user You guys are nuts You still feeling sad Bernie isnt going to win the nomination pal|0 MY blood is boiling seeing all the people bragging about going to bars or sharing horrible Facebook posts saying Were you really sick in November Guess what you already had coronavirus and it wasnt that bad|0 Phase 5 is trying to stop or delay that Phase 6 is when we recognize that wont work and we focus on mitigating the impact Do you really want phase 6 so quicklyPhase 5 is also already the pandemicalert period And I think it is correct that we are still there and not in phase 6 Phase 6 is sustained community infections in multiple WHOregions We might now be there I dont hope so well see that in the next few daysEven if so I would argument for this disease it is good to stay as long as possible in phase 5 because of the many unknowns and the possible severity and we should focus on delay and containment as long as possible Phase 5 already includes also most of the preparedness and mitigation efforts but it also is the narrowing window of opportunity for containment or delay|0 What about extremely hot weather Like the Middle East in summer|1 Yeah sure all public events cancelled no private events with more than 50 people starting effective today reduced public transport and cancelled flights to everywhere This country is totally absolutely doing nothing|1 Are you talking about the loons like you signing petitions If so I dont need to say more|1 Article explains that there is no supply shortage TLDR No need to stock up suppliers have more|0 OK Everyone who got the virus will dieNow what|1 They even steal stories off Reddit Lol|0 Damn I knew the were doing triage and ruling out treatment for 80 Did the just lower it to 70|0 alright not breaking my ankle this week|1 Then gloves at least without cotton gloves below are pretty bad also If you can work with cotton gloves below and your tactile functions are good enough for the job you do still thats a good compromise|1 people are still under estimating things Imagine the hospitals are full of sick people full to capacity Now your trying to cut yourself up some brisket at home knife slips damn bad cut need stitches Probably terrible idea to go to the hospital though maybe you end up with an infection Your neighbor is driving home from one last emergency TP trip shes in an accident Your dad tries to cut up that limb knocked down by the early spring storms and starts having chest pain Uncle Bob starts having issues with his sugar because hes rationing his diabetes meds and doesnt have 500 to buy more of the meds other people in other countries pay 2000 for People who otherwise would get to see an ER dr and get fixed up their care is delayed because the people working are busy trying to triage sick people who have filled the waiting room all of them coughing or struggling to breathe All the people without insurance who will wait to longIm extremely immunocompromised so yeah Im really scared But this wont just affect me Its going to affect everyone who in normal circumstances would be fine but under these circumstances they could die over something that they didnt have to|0 Both then Austalian Center for Infectious Disease and the CDC have both come out today and said they have no evidence that indicated the disease can be spread during incubation That isnt a verifiable fact at this pointSerious people at the epicentre of the problem think otherwiseXinhua News Agency Hangzhou January 26th reporters learned from Sheng Jifang director of the Department of Infectious Diseases of Zhejiang University First Hospital deputy director of the State Key Laboratory of Infectious Diseases Diagnosis and Treatment and member of the pneumonia expert group for the diagnosis and treatment of new coronavirus infection in Zhejiang Province Case studies of pneumonia associated with a new coronavirus infection have been contagious when there were no typical symptoms during the incubation periodWe encountered a patient who came to Hangzhou from Wuhan to attend a conference When he arrived in Hangzhou he did not have any symptoms He did not have the typical symptoms of cough and fever But it didnt take long before several colleagues he had contacted were infected Symptoms appeared one after another But at this time he still did not have the disease himself After returning to Wuhan at the end of the meeting he did not get the disease after another two days Sheng Jifang introducedSheng Jifang said that after different people are infected with the new coronavirus the course of disease development and clinical symptoms may be very different It is possible that this person developed symptoms immediately after infection while another person had no obvious symptoms during the incubation period after infection Therefore it is difficult for ordinary citizens to identifyhttpswwwsciencemediacentreorgexpertreactiontonewsreportsthatthechinacoronavirusmayspreadbeforesymptomsshow|0 10roll on Kijiji here in Ottawa Definitely some asshole amongst the paranoid|1 Are we still surprised this buffoon is spreading lies Or is it more mentionable when he actually more like accidentally speaks the truth|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The less people we test the less positive results there are so we are totally fines|1 Thats because of the lack of toilet paper|0 And lots of people arent being tested A friend of a friend went to hospital in an ambulance and was told it probably was coronavirus and to selfisolate So if theyre not tested they dont exist as a statistic It disgusts me|0 Your experience differs considerably from that of other people who reported symptoms in Vegas around the same time Im not saying youre lying maybe the other people were lying but experience may differ greatly depending on the hospital|1 No thats bad whether its virus or smokepollution sbut kinda also notespecially when deep breaths can trigger a really bad asthma attack or you inhale a bunch of viral particles|0 I think its hilarious|1 There are supply chains already in place on micro and macro levels the ADF is geared for warfighting aid to the civil power is a minute role and should be a last resort and compliment existing systems not take over|1 Whats Idaho looking like right now I have family out there|1 may need to ER if your conditions worsen Im pretty sure I had COVID19 a few weeks back in King County WA and you just have to treat it with OTC meds and rest and isolate Getting a positive test result really only helps to encourage you to isolate yourself which we should all be doing anyway frankly especially if youre atrisk But youre not going to get any special treatment if youre positive unless it really hits you hard and you need respiratory assistance which as were reading is going to be difficult to get soon|1 They literally change their tune immediately and dont even acknowledge it Literally from Not worried at all this is just another flu to Get me out of here I dont feel safe where theres peopleSo incredibly shortsighted|0 LOL boy was I off by an order of magnitude Thanks for the update|1 Nothing about China is a free market you troglodyte|1 Germany is the one EU nation thats doing a whole lot of testing just like S Korea is doing a lot of testingI suspect its already spread far and wide in the EU considering the lack of borders|0 Would be ok with this|1 Bankrupt him please|0 Thank you this explanation is so helpful|1 Yeah living in Sydney this was so so true with the fires just passed People finally got really angry about the lack of global warming action but only when the city was full of smoke and surrounded by fire for 2 weeks|0 If we have less than 10000 undetected cases in the wild Ill eat a virus|0 Gives Mac Attack a whole new meaning|0 All of the amazing archeological sites UNESCO world heritage sites I would love to visit one day I hope the Iranian people can get a government that represents the hospitality and warmness I have seen in every Iranian I have personally met Iran hasnt suffered the iconoclasm that has destroyed so many amazing ancient artifacts in many other countries in the region|1 Thanks I figured I was just looking in the wrong spot Hopefully it is changed in the morning then|1 At this point I think this reddit group is slightly overreacting and most of the public is majorly underreacting People are slowly coming around and hopefully the correct balance can be achieved Eastern PA here Family says Im crazy when I day schools will be closed for the school year Two weeks lol|1 Theres alot of people who run the risk of homelessness joblessness if they miss work|0 Nobody is cured of this virus It stays with you for life It gets into your neurons where it is out of reach of your immune system Very few other viruses do this herpes would be the most well known This disease has a 100 reinfection rate This info is from a respected peer reviewed journal not some tinfoil hatterEach time you get a flareup it scars your lungs and further reduces your lung capacity|1 Its because often medical devices are far more complicated than what can be 3D printed There was an entire reddit post on it But I guess in emergencies having a bad option is better than no option Not sure if the hospitals insurance team would agree tho|0 I think theyre going for a few weeks of isolation Possibly combined with an opportunistic infection or norovirus that might require additional carbon based waste removal tissues|0 I love this sub A beautiful mix of I told you so inference and boredom Insanely fun to watch|1 I chose to believe people can change Otherwise what hope do we have|1 Comparing this to a Mosquito borne illness is asinine|0 Just because it was untrue at one point does not mean it will stay untrue moving forward There is not nearly enough testingsequencing done in the US to have any idea one way or another If there is a quieter milder strain circulating through US communities it has never been sequenced because you basically have to prove that a COVID19 patient spit in your open mouth to get a test at all Testing is so behind here that we certainly have at least 10x the number of cases than official reports my critical pulmonary care colleagues think it is closer to 1000x|1 Did they also run lab tests to verify if that woman was dead|0 You idiot it has spread to other Asian countriesYes and because most Asian countries with the exception of India have it contained I suggest other countries ban all travel from the US until the current administration pulls its collectives heads out of their asses and start mass testing Very good suggestion and I agree The testing we have been doing is not sufficient to induce confidence The only continent that seems to have dodged is Africa and it may be that its just under reported there as wellLets hope their numbers are correct If thats the case the antimalaria treatments being tested now along with a suppression of the virus during the summer months might have some merit Still if anyone in Europe that has the cash they can skate around the ban by traveling through countries without a ban When they arrive in the US they have to show a passport Well know if they have been in Europe in the past 14 days and can either send them back or quarantine them Its going to dramatically reduce the spread into the USIts already here in the US and we are not testing Who cares who or where the test was developed and manufactured Stupid imbecile americans thats who The non idiots among us just want a test that works not one that was made in the land of the feeuh huh Dont stress man we got this Humanity got a get out of decimation free card Lets just hope our governments play it faster then planned April 1st testing should be done but fuck a lot of people are going to suffer by then I agree testing in the United States has been an abysmal failureJapan left people on a cruise ship until nearly all of them became infected Not their smartest momentWe agree here Does china have it under control Who knows if the numbers they report reflect any kind objective reality They lie when the truth would serve them betterYes I agree we cant trust their numbers they are wildly off That being said given the measures they have taken and the videos I am seeing coming out of China I believe they have it under control Do you really think you know the deal any better than the rest of usYes I do We should not wait for efficacy testing on Remdesivir and we should just start using it to treat everyone with COVID19 Based on my understanding this would get the world back on track in a matter of weeks The big risk here is if we become complacent as we have in the past with SARS and MERS Its likely wed have a vaccine developed in months not years if we had any vaccine for any coronavirus vaccine already If we slow down efforts on developing a vaccine there is a chance a mutation could develop that is resistant to the new antiviral drugs and maybe the potential antiretroviral drug treatments that we currently haveIts great to see that an imbecile and an Idiot can find common ground here It has been a pleasure to have had this conversation with you This is an awesome podcast you might want to check out herehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvkj9xR6H8T0Also if you know how to start a viral campaign to pressure the governments to just start using Remdesivir please do so I have no idea how to do that shit|1 Canada might want to start instituting screening measures at all border crossings including land borders at some point or at least the high risk ones along with any domestic travelespecially air travelUnited States should consider it as well since the border clearance only happens at the entry country in the United StatesCanada borderAt least planning it but United StatesCanada data monitoring is generally shared at a high enough level that 14 days anywhere within the two should be enough absent more recent exposure to at risk persons|1 Jesus fucking Christ pretty sure I had a friend share that Instant unfriend for that dumb shit Did it start off saying from a nurse|1 That study didnt interview the patients The histories were taken by workers with huge language barriers on the ship Our local authorities are skeptical that the symptoms were accurately recorded Other studies do not agree that a large asymptomatic cohort like this exists|1 you are a fool if a single virus gets through your open door policy you have corona|0 It sucks Both artists are people whose music I genuinely enjoy But I hate that they arent taking this seriously enough to try and protect their fans even if it means a financial hit|0 How many could get infected though|0 Im in a similar boat I have underlying medical conditions and I know my immunity is bad and it feels like being diagnosed with mild cancer like I might die Some things Im doing to try and be safeeating fermented food every day to boost my immunity like raw sauerkraut using chaga and zincgetting as much sleep as I cankeeping artemisinin around which could help if I get infectedtaking my temperature regularly so I will know early if Im infectedhaving some plans if I show signs of infection to try and treat it as best I can from the start most people who got severe had a few weeks of growing malaise before they had the fullblown illness|1 Maybe instead of the wash the soap ads why not show footage of the hospitals in Italy as adverts so people will start taking this seriouslyPeople still think its just the flu its just crazy|0 Its a bad move going anywhere at this point|0 It must be horrible to have such bad habits that you live paycheck to paycheck|0 Are a couple of million people supposed to file for unemployment tomorrow That wont workFor many Americans finances and health are linked How are you meant to get better if you have no money for insurance let alone rent and food I dont really see this working out too well|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Would they be alive today if they hadnt been forced to stay on the cruise ship|1 I agree but it is also difficult for China to confirm the true number of cases regardless due to time needed for testing limited testing supplies finite number of workers for testing people not going to get tested incubation period etc|1 WTF people in Italy breaking quarantine are now facing murder charges You can definitely sue the hell out of Microphone Boy here|0 If we peak at 2000 cases I will dance naked on hot coals and perform oral sex with a male gorilla Im afraid its definitly higher than 2000 infected right now 100 How much higher I have no idea Im not sure what we will peak at But 5 million would be a fair estimate then infections continue to happen after than|0 Per million citizens we have Coronavirus worse than them|0 Yikes Well fingers crossed Going off the n44k study CFR then you would naively expect for such an old group of people to see a CFR of 5 maybe higher since that study didnt have complete follow up on the later diagnosed patients If its more like 12 thatd be really good news and suggest theres a lot of undiagnosed mild disease out there and worldwide CFRs will be 1 Its already 03 though so this might just be another false hope dashed|1 In some of the other recent clinical studies Ive been seeing lymphopenia is one of the more common presenting symptoms next to feverHas any one seen any articles addressing whether this returns to normal levels upon recoveryIf this is ruled offtopic Ill remove it and look for another place|0 Were at 22 deaths and it still feels like not much is being doneEdit sorry actually 23|1 Holy crap really Thats awesome|1 Will every single 1 in 5 person be the same level of complications related to being sick Or does is it vary What happened to the people who dont get any symptoms how many hospital beds do they need|0 Wet market is just a place where fresh meat and fish are sold America has them too The problem is when live disease carrying animals are sold andor theres poor sanitation and hygiene|0 In portuguese the term propaganda has both connotations you need to know the context For example advertising prizes are usually called premio de propaganda whatever Undergrad schools of advertising are called Escola de Propaganda e Marketing and so on but on more recente terms theres some changing from propaganda to publicidade but more because publicidade sounds more sophisticated around here But we also use Propaganda in other more ominous meanings like nazi propaganda and soviet propaganda A really like it that way keeps things more honestas|1 So all math is mental math On top of having to probably write out most of it in words since they cant expect students to use LaTeX on a final That sounds almost as bad for the TAs as for the students|0 Saying you might recover but youll be miserable for weeks is just as incorrect as saying whatever it only hits old people|0 Now that clinical cases are counted can we safely say the real numbers are probably 2x the previous reportsProbably a lot more than just 2x the reports given that asymptomatic people dont count and people with mild symptoms arent included since they mostly treat the heavier cases Looking at the international stats there are usually a lot more people that barely show any symptoms And then there are people with symptoms quarantined at home since they apparently dont want people to go out anymore|1 This is precisely why I am so concerned Based on the official reported statistics one is more likely to die by the virus than to recover from it But I am hoping that many recoveries just havent been reported|0 His words not mine but yeah My first thought was that it would be an actual quarantine zone especially with the national guard coming in to deliver food whatever that means Im sure well get some more reporting on the details soon|1 thats the popularly reported period of incubation The more people stay home the less likely they are to be transmitting it to other people because you could be walking around feeling just fine but if you already have the virus in you breathing talking to other people theyd end up being exposed and infectedDepriving the virus of more human hosts will get the r0 reproduction number down because the infection rate is exponential A conservative example 1 infected spreads to 2 people they each go out and spread to 2 people each 4 repeat 8 16 32 64 128etchttpswwwwashingtonpostcomopinions20200310coronaviruswhatmattersisntwhatyoucanseewhatyoucanthttpswwwwashingtonpostcomopinions20200310coronaviruswhatmattersisntwhatyoucanseewhatyoucantx200BYou have a pond of a certain size and upon that pond a single lilypad This particular species of lily pad reproduces once a day so that on day two you have two lily pads On day three you have four and so on Now the teaser If it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway The answer is 47 days Moreover at day 40 youll barely know the lily pads are thereNo such thing as dumb questions The only thing thats dumb are people not asking questions assuming they dont need to ask If only every American could be more interested or curious about this pandemic and how it spreads wed be in better shape|0 Why Im not wrong|1 Fair point|1 I remember years ago when I had a bout of bronchitis and just sort of let it go unchecked for about a week Suddenly I woke up in the middle of the night about 9 days in with a raging fever and shortness of breath It was difficult for me to say more than a couple words in a row Went to the Urgent Care as soon as it opened and they were shocked that my O2 level was below 90 and wondered how I had even managed to walk into the clinic I felt like I was breathing through a straw Immediately was given a steroid inhaler and antibiotics Double pneumonia that took about 4 weeks to completely recover from And I was 28 years old and totally healthy If I had had an underlying condition or a weakened immune system I would have absolutely died|0 What can we do to spread the hypothesis that IL6 and TNFa inhibitors decrease mortality in COVID19Here are some papers recent and old that paint a compelling story ARDS is the common immunopathological event for SARSCoV2 SARSCoV and MERSCoV infections One of the main mechanisms for ARDS is the cytokine storm the deadly uncontrolled systemic inflammatory response resulting from the release of large amounts of proinflammatory cytokines TNF is one of the most prominent cytokines upregulated during H5N1 infection Expression of IL6 and TNF are potential indicators of severe respiratory viral infection such as SARSBy inhibiting IL6 andor TNFa we can probably protect the lungs of COVID19 patients with severe symptomsIve been reaching out to rheumatologists to let them know they can potentially assist in this crisis Some pharma companies are already investigating IL6 but those drugs are not available in all countries yet nor costeffective nor does regulatory approval and cohort studies in one jurisdiction mean its available in another In my mind rheumatologists everywhere could do their own cohort studies on both TNFa and IL6 biologicsThe sooner they do the more lives will be saved Assuming the hypothesis is correct of course|0 Hi You just mentioned The War Of The Worlds by HG WellsIve found an audiobook of that novel on YouTube You can listen to it hereYouTube The War Of The Worlds H G Wells 1898 AudiobookhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvySM1RqkI46UIm a bot that searches YouTube for science fiction and fantasy audiobooks|0 He was wearing it incorrectly and wearing it to mock people that were concerned about this virus Until one of his constituents died of it then he was exposed to it at CPAC and now hes in selfquarantineGaetz has never been right his entire life|0 Its been an honor and a privilege posting with you all|1 Yep and as well as the death rate I also think its important to say that this disease is also more likely to find you 50 in a year rather than 10|1 No other country ever reported this amount of deaths per day|0 There are two things that can spread the virus and panic If you cant control the former the least you can do is control the latter|0 Wow Mind blown That might actually be the thinkingThats probably giving the government too much credit though|1 No they got tested because the owners are wealthy The players are rich Theres a difference|1 I wonder if all the snowbirds in Florida will be coming back earlier than anticipated Anecdotally in speaking with my relatives it looks like not|1 Will it burn out with warmer weather|1 Just dont wanna deal with peoples shit at work Stay at home|0 No Fauci said that was where the trajectory of the outbreak would take us The peak will be in April or May for the United States|1 Notice how you not any scientist or doctor but YOU turned this lung scarringinto this fucked up for lifeSpoiler you likely already have lung scarring if you ever had bronchitis as a child You likely have permanent damage to your throat from every time you had strep You likely have permanent damage to your ears from every ear infection youve hadIve had bronchitis several times strep throat a dozen times and it seems I get an ear infection every year All that is true but whats not true is that my lungs throat or ears are fucked up for lifeThis doesnt prove youre wrong But it does show that you cant make the logical leap you just made|0 100 agree I was staying here on reddit back in January February I thought it could be circulated and got downvoted So I just dismissed the thought really|1 Yes education is a big part of why the US citizenry are behaving like such jackasses in regards to this thing and really public health in generalYeah I think Im some states they dont teach evolution and in other states the science books approved for use in schools must contain alternative theories such as intelligent design and Im sure in some of those states the teachers might even be forced to acknowledge and cover those alternative theories as part of the curriculum required by the state Absolutely ridiculous|1 It seems like young people are getting cured but would it be the case when the virus mutates |1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 They know you cant be trusted to act like adults because they know that you voted for them on the basis of a load of made up bullshit propaganda they paid for in the Daily Express which as we speak has barely mentioned the virus|0 Reports like this continue to trickle out Either the tests are not completely accurate yet problem or this is not always detectable even while infected bigger problem|0 1 is nuts If it hits 30 the entire heal care system will be totally overwhelmed multiple times over|1 Lol my friend actually complained to me the other day that he cant go snowboarding Shit blew my mind when I explained it to him he said he doesnt fucking care I want to go snowboarding He isnt normally such a selfish person too so I was kind of taken aback This whole situation has been hard on a lot of people|1 This both sides bullshit is amazing The democrats did something a long time ago They funded the CDC and believe in science and experts Trump is out there saying stuff like that the virus is a democratic hoax httpsmobiletwittercomatruparstatus1233570800223084544s20Trump massively politicized this thing and were all going to suffer for it He is the one in the position to actually do things as the executive and has been a massive failure at leadership here|0 Hopefully you can catch it and let us know how its no big deal|1 Im a child care worker in one of the few provinces to announce zero plans to close down child care centres Manitoba We are trying to put pressure on the government to close while were still ahead if we are especially since they have announced school closures Unfortunately our Premier looks like an ostrich and buries his head in the ground like one too|1 Oh shit|0 Hopefully this will change as we start testing a couple months late but|1 Oh but its just the old and the sick who are dying We say As long as youre healthy and young youll be fine Theres no need to worryI feel like Im just repeating myself endlessly over the last two days butPeople like me are saying this because were trying to get the point across that this is behaving like a normal respiratory virus Its not a repeat of the Spanish flue pandemic Its not some super virus thats going to make people keel over in the streets and bring about the collapse of civilisation Any given random person isnt fucked if they catch it You dont need to start panicking because theres been a single confirmed case in your countryThe atrisk demographics for the virus are already in danger every year from ordinary flu get vaccinated people and this doesnt destabilize society Also it needs to be pointed out that the demographic of reddit skews relatively young thus theres an assumption that when someone is freaking out because they think the virus is going to kill them theyre probably not in the age range where thats likely|0 I tried and failed many times and then one day it just stuck After many years of 20 a day and a few years of 40 a day ewwww I just never had another oneAt the time the idea of never smoking again was terrifying surely therell be one or two down the road right Theres something about the word forever that sent fear through my addicted veins Well on the day I successfully stopped forever I had that fear like every other time Im here 5 years later letting you know that you do eventually get to a place where you need a smoke about as much as you need a kick in the teeth Its now like I never even picked up the habit and I feel absolutely wonderfulMy advice Find something to occupy your smoking time be it a hobby or just something to distract your handsmouth for five minutes Write down your goals and set rewards for meeting them its harder to give up on something when you write it down as it sort of sets it in stone Spend time reminding yourself of all the other things in life that you can continue to do you can continue to listen to music go out for dinners dance laugh youre only giving up cigarettes youre only quitting that little 5 minute action you have SO much more that is wonderful and forever so focus on those rather than the thing youre getting rid of in your life If you cave and have a smoke get right back on it again You can quit as many times as you need each time try and get a little further than the last and always remember that each time is helping you learn how to do it and positively affecting your health a little bit more Best of luck |1 Depends on the employer though With most you can take 3 sick days in a row before you need a doctors note|0 Was talking with a Walmart employee and she confessed she was hiding a bottle of hand sanitizer till she got off shift to purchase it Her dad has MS and she cant get a hold of basic sanitation supplies|1 I live in Rome I work for a big known organization state fundedWe got calls yesterday on sunday to cancel all of our meetings This never happened in 14 years working hereIve been prepping and reading from January and now my coworkers and friends are asking about what to do what to buyI believe that is only a matter of time here Rome is a big messy city|0 It tells us that businessasusual is wrong must stop and be replaced with something better|0 Let me preface this by saying that the asshat that stole masks from a hospital should be found and tossed in jail However officials telling the public that masks Dont Work is completely different from sensibly Implementing rationing and telling the public that health care workers take priority How can you expect anyone to trust out government and healthcare institutions if they flat out lie to the public like that Especially when they not offering other viable ways for people to protect themselves|1 Nobody knows yet because this virus is very new Other countries are dealing with this uncertainty by trying to protect lives slow the rate of infection to ease the burden on health systems buy time for more research expansion of health facilities etc Our government is banking on things about this virus that nobody knows for sure They are risking that many many people die by not locking stuff down a week ago and for what They dont need to risk that|0 My advice would be let your work colleagues etc know asap how this could affect you if they arent aware of your condition I appreciate this may be a private issue but equally you cant expect them to act as if youre in a high risk group if they have no reason to think you areIts not that people dont take it seriously its more that they assess the risk according to their own situation so if yours is different let them know and you may just find they alter their behaviour accordingly|0 Do you know how you might have got it Did you have contact with anyone who recently travelled or have you been going about your day as normalI work in a comprehensive school and weve had students and teachers come back from trips to Italy 3 weeks ago Our local government and hence our school has no plan whatsoeverThe UK said theres no need to close schools as children dont get infected But surely children will then spead the disease to other children who will then infect their parents The UKs plan is basically yeah we dont careWe have teachers who have immune problems and I also have a medical condition yet we are supposed to just keep on prolein|1 BuT BuZZFed nEws AkShulLy pUTs OuT GooD qUaLIty ArTicLEs|1 The public sector inventFalse Private does 80 of this at the low end estimatehttpswwwpolicymedcom201102nejmtheprivatesectordiscoveriesaccountfor7990ofpharmaceuticalproductshtml Private sector takes the ideas and makes the profitableTrue In addition to inventing most things If we had a system in place for the government to roll out these products they would be far cheaper and just as goodThere is no evidence for this its just a talking point And no examples of nations with that kind of structure accomplishing anything like that vs competitor nations If it was true wed see nations where government controls that process contributing comparably or better than other nations We do not|1 Finlands education system is the best in the world and they dont send kids to school til theyre 7|1 Just letting you know that I hate comments written like this So condescending|0 I also believe that countries like Singapore and Hong Kong are able to curb their spreading numbers because they are not afraid to wear masks in publicThis Look at Taiwan Hong Kong South Korea Singapore All have outbreaks running for weeks now Then look at Italy where you also get mask shamed See any difference|0 I know Im a bit late to the game but just had a creepy thoughtwhat if the announcements stopped coming|0 Hate the game not the player|0 Meh for the most part you hear and see how people and even countries come together in this timeThere will always be the loud asshats who do dumb shit|0 I guess if UV light and warmth do help slow virus transmission she probably is safer there than in our cold drizzly hometownTransmission rates in UVrich hot summer Australia are just like the colder northern hemisphere|1 Or itll just kill those who live extremely unhealthy lives By the time the next generation or two come around people will have already forgotten about this Just look at the antivaxxers now while we still have people alive that lived through many outbreaks for the diseases we have vaccines for now|0 But the point is the virus normally spreads when people are not taking precautionsDoctors usually are in good health clean often and dont touch face etcIts anecdotal of course but it could be a sign that the virus can spread easily|1 Eat the rich|1 Thank you|1 No need to think about rates here Just look at wuhan Italy and Iran They are struggling|0 Not saying I disagree with the Trump administrations handling of this pandemic But really shouldnt you expect local state and hospitals to have their own standard operating procedures when dealing with a pandemicI work at a chemical processing plant and even we have pandemic procedures that very clearly state what to do and not to do around contagious people Handling them without proper PPE is insane Better to let them die than to create two victims|0 Im interested to know more about this Can you provide a link to more info|1 Thank you for not only providing such a thorough explanation but so clear and concise and actually easily understandable|1 Port Authority runs the airports it doesnt run immigration and customs|1 massive amounts of gratitude for health care workers around the globe putting it all on the line |1 Honestly that was my first thought|1 He can try but it wouldnt go over well|0 It hasnt spread there yet or it is not been found yet theyre kinda freaking out apparently but nothing to worry about it seems|1 I think you might be mistaken COVID19httpsenwikipediaorgwikiCoronavirusdisease2019 is the disease that is caused by the viral strain named SARSCoV19httpsenwikipediaorgwikiSevereacuterespiratorysyndromecoronavirus2This is a similar distinction as the one between HIV viruseshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHIV and the illness they cause which is known as AIDShttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHIVAIDS|0 Uncle Sam no lie You traitor|0 They only just announced that theyve screened 9 people and got one negative test back in Fort Myers an hour and a half north of Miami and an hour south of Sarasota But tonight is the first Ive heard of it According to NBC2 and Lee Health Cant seem to get a link out of the app rn|0 The results of this study are promising but take it with a big grain of salt as it has not been peerreviewed yetCOVID19 uses a protein called the spike protein S to enter human cells It seems that two separate parts of the S protein called HR1 domain and HR2 domain need to interact in order for the S protein to allow COVID to enter human cells So the researchers are trying to somehow block the HR1portion of the Sprotein so that COVID cannot enter human cells and they hope this can be used as a preventative measure and treatment Furthermore there seems to already be an inhibitor called EK1 available that has been seen to block HR1 domain of other coronavirus SARS MERS They took EK1 and changed it a little by adding fatty acids lipo fat peptide protein and found out that this new version of EK1 EK1C4 is really good at inhibit the Sprotein found specifically on COVID 19They then applied EK1C4 in mice and saw that EK1C4 was able to protect mice from getting infected with common cold virus very similar to COVID19Overall very promising but there needs to be a lot more research trial in animals and supporting evidence to make anything out of thisEdit Infected mice with common cold virus not COVID19 itself|1 Survival of the smartest|1 Not cool|0 Eh I tolerate Target cause I hate Walmart Aldi is my jam Nothing helpful to say about the birthdayprom Shit sucks Dying with fluid filled lungs probably sucks too I hope to skip that Hopefully you and your dream girl can find creative ways to connect Good luck|1 You are more likely to survive than die Sorry to burst your bubble|0 I FUCKING KNOW RIGHT I told my coworkers Show me one article from a MSM outlet that before 5 days ago said anything besides Its just the flu dont worryTHEY COULDNT FIND A SINGLE ONE They still dont believe its bad though Fucking unreal But yes the silence spoke volumes Anyone who spent 10 seconds thinking critically about it should have been able to realize that|1 Luckily I the older ppl in my life are smart and have stocked up and are staying home|1 Would you be willing to share a bit about your background in terms of credentials and experience|1 People still joking about this and this sickness should read the article httpstranslategooglecomtranslateum1ieUTF8hlnlclienttwobslnltlenuhttps3A2F2Fnosnl2Fartikel2F2327328veeljongecoronapatientenopintensivecarewaarschijnlijkdoorcarnavalhtmlhttpstranslategooglecomtranslateum1ieUTF8hlnlclienttwobslnltlenuhttps3A2F2Fnosnl2Fartikel2F2327328veeljongecoronapatientenopintensivecarewaarschijnlijkdoorcarnavalhtml|1 Ironically you seem to assert that we should be spreading our concern through the masses as quickly as we can about the dangers of panic|0 We are all 100 fucked based on what Ive read time to make peace with yourself|0 Show me where I praised china Go ahead Ill wait|1 Yes everyone is shocked a lot of older people recovered but he passed away|1 My problem is that there is not a mechanism where these trials can get us out of a looming pandemic Fine do the 80 trials and the Chinese traditional medicine or whatever certainly enough patients to go around but the WHO and CDC should quickly align on which are the most likely to work small molecule antibody and vaccine candidate Those programs should be extra specially accelerated to try to make a dent in the outbreak A vaccine program that can go into man in 6 months With remdesivir make a call from testing in the war zone of whether prophylactic administration protects medical personnel Also get done quickly whether it works therapeutically and if it does make 100 million doses and send to pharmacies all over the US Finally prioritize antibodies that can be administered prophylactically and build up that capacity so millions could be given immunopropholaxis in regions w outbreaks to try to ramp down local spread Maybe that would buy enough time and reduce mortality enough to get to a vaccine|0 More of an idiot than an arsehole It sounds like he was trying to do the right thing but his low IQ sabotaged his plans|0 Its possible I think its more likely that the virus either breaks through any interim defense it is well equipped to do so as we know that asymptomatic carriers can spread it or outlasts our willingness to keep defenses up effective screening and tracking will be costly in every possible sense Id be glad to be wrong though|1 I trusted Corbyn|1 Thats terrible These governments have really got to stop screwing around with this|0 Remind me about how free broadband isnt a right when oldpoor people starve to death because all the shops have closed down due to pandemic and they cant order food and essentials online|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Nice|1 Thanks I get it I wish I still had a non smokers brain I know addiction doesnt make alot of sense but yes the urgency It only clicks in these kind of moments or for example when someone really close to you dies from lung cancer It wakes you up I think thats how it works|0 It killed my father in just 2 years|0 This right here I find it absolutely infuriating to hear anyone say anything that sounds remotely like its only really dangerous to the elderly and immune compromised We need to be focusing on community health how entire communities are affected and we need to work together in such a way that we can slow the spread as much as possible|0 Trump dropping the ball and blaming all of us for noticing sucks|0 Approximately 5000 customers a day The owner tells us to clean our hands use anti bacterial wipes and cough into our elbows We are one of the last stores in my country that still accept cash which is a major source of infection|1 The machines do alert if the pt is biting down on the tube due to under sedation if they are coughing and need to be suctioned or if they somehow extubated themselves What I do is assess my patient every time check their drips and adjust accordingly on if I need to increase their sedation and whatnot also keep in mind that many patients that are on ventilators require multiple drips to be infusing to keep them sedated and comfortable on the ventilator likewise these drips tend to run out pretty quickly and since a good majority of them are controlled substances you have to pull them out only when theres a little bit left at a time or else the system will dock you if you hadnt scanned within 30 mins and you will get drug tested You have to monitor their heart rate and blood pressure because these meds tend to affect those tremendously Ive had patients be on sedation at minimal dosages to keep them comfortable with the ventilator and also on vasoactive drips meds that will increase their BPMAP to perfuse their organs While they are on vasoactive drips like Norepinephrine Dopamine Vasopressin its vital to constantly watch the monitor as some of them are very sensitive to the dosing and youre constantly in the room adjusting to keep the MAP 6570 typically on higher end when theyre septic to make sure their organs are getting that blood rich with oxygen and perfusing Not to mention on top of being on 3 sedating drips typically youll see Propofol Precedex and Fentanyl they also are on antibiotics as they tend to have pneumonia and other infections in their body You have to constantly assess your patient and make sure that they arent getting any worse You have the monitor as a way to constantly pay close attention to their vitals but also assess them yourselves as maybe one of the leads to the EKG could be misplaced and be misinforming you On another note youre also watching to see if they are over breathing the ventilator which is an indicator to you that you should up your sedation to where they are more comfortable and the ventilator can do its job of aerating their lungs Also watching their oxygen saturation levels is important because if you notice them downtrending it could mean that they may need to be suctioned ventilator settings may need to be adjusted to give them more oxygen or PEEP positive end expiratory pressure increase the rate and etc you would also have to do an ABG arterial blood gas to see what their pH CO2 HCO3 and O2 levels are and a chest Xray to make sure that they arent drowning in fluid in which then you would notify the doctor and adjust vent settings or diurese them with IV Lasix On top of these things there are a few other reasons for their oxygen levels dipping could be a Pulmonary Embolism or it could be a progression to Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome Youre also constantly checking labs on your patients assessing critical intake and output to see if their kidneys are functioning appropriately and whatnot Sorry for the lecture but theres a handful to what I do for a living to ensure that my patients are safe and receive the best care possible Peoples lives are in our hands and we constantly have eyes on them in the icu 247|1 The cruise line Captain and crew were unequal to the task Not surprising as those vessels are no more than floating hotels Whether obtuse to the nature of infectious disease on vessels or to the primary mission of conveying passengers safely The cruise line has made themselves legal target to the 3700 passengers endangered by the action|0 We definitely need that all over the world|1 At least well get some nice BGM|1 How furious do you think theyll be this way|0 They dont call it a pandemic because they dont want to cause pandemonium|0 WHO Sneezing coughing fever bug thing bad|0 Youre right I should have looked first and said trimodal Hard to know if thats noise though so Im just expecting an undeniable second peak in some areas before summer|0 Iran does not have the infrastructure or govt credibility to contain this I feel really bad for their citizens This is going to get ugly|0 Recession my old friend|1 I really hope you live as healthy as you can Couldnt even fathom putting myself in your shoes Good luck |1 Oh my gosh yes My husband looks at me like a mutant for loving that|1 How is a stranger things shut down the most relevant news information about Corona virus and Canada Wake up people ignore the celebrities|0 From what I have seen that is how most other governments are reporting numbers Numerous countries have said that no reports from the field are allowed but must be vetted first by the government|0 Depends on how many were infected though Some say 5 of Wuhan at the peak|0 Good to know|1 I can tell your opinion is not worth much as you come out with such a thing as you have your little tidbit most people wont even wear masks properly so it makes no difference But if you were thinking and properly informed youd know that this is the least of the reasons that wearing a mask makes no differenceYou are now posing as a professional Now while I find this perfectly believable as most people who have received the training you have doesnt change that theyre largely morons the attitude you are taking now points to more likely youre just posing and think it is going to mean anything as youre talking as if youve found some common talking pointThe thing with masks is that they simply will not protect you from coronavirus Truly what will protect you from the coronavirus is absolute selfisolation in a home with all the doors locked and this is the only way you will survive without having the virus my sweet innocent little medical professional of certain intelligence Im afraid that you being a professional doesnt mean anythingThe masks which possibly reduce droplets you are expelling and so may protect certain people at a certain distance from you and protect yourself from bits of spit in your face is in practice just as good as people trained to use the the golden standard of air filtration nosefitted mask which the n95 claims it sticks all around your mouth so technically the viruses and bacteria dont pass through this mask but only molecules of air so no biological material thats alive will pass through the filter But in practice you find yourself with huge problems of that when you get infected such as a cloud of contaminated particles generated from whatever event happen to bei n the pocket of air you are going to inhale from and often if you inhale 100 you will be infected and if you inhale 1 you will be infected let alone wearing these masks all day and the effect your breath over that time will have on their supposed perfect standard filtration unit construction over time and that if youre going in public with these n95 masks your hands have the coronavirus all over them your shirt has the coronavirus and youre going to have to remove this mask at some point youre fingers have it you touch yourself you dont clean yourself or if you do clean yourself you dont clean yourself enoughThe n95 mask is only working in an ideal scenario Youre not in an ideal scenario if youre not a doctor with staff around you who remove your mask such as Im holding my hands in the air while my assistant is attaching my sterile gloves and attaching my robe in my back If youre not in that situation the n95 doesnt mean much And so youre going to end up at home and even if you were to filter out the virus which if it does youd be okay anyway and if it doesnt youd simply be similarly infected anyway youre going to give it to your family So masks are just not a good strategy hereIve seen the strategy used by some people in Wuhan of being in a complete transparent garbage bag and having a small place in the bottom to breathe from I would say this may be more efficient than the n95 in certain scenarios but not really Better yet you can look cool like you dont care and better you can wear sun glasses which really are more effective than any mask or garbage suit and look very cool wearing sun glassesMeanwhile trained medical personel wearing legitimate n95 professionally kept being handled by assistant with sterilised hands and you have your arms out and they put the mask on for your and then remove it for you these people are getting infected So you know Im afraid to inform you that youre going to have to get fucking real my friend but thanks for reminding me of the quality of intelligence we have working throughoutThe doctors who died from coronavirus they had the n95 and they had a brand new legitimate one with filtration unit built maybe even to standards claimed which is bs and even if true in practice is not going to prevent all the smaller particles coming through and not breathed on for hours and everything and they knew how to wash their hands and they had the glasses but its not enouguh and where are many of them now my sweet little darling Theyre deadBecause this virus is coming for your little butt hole and there is not shit you can do about it unless you quarantine yourself in your bank vault and do not allow anyone in And if you were properly informed and had the intelligence to process that information youd know that theres no point in telling people to wear masks its a complete joke But all you know is how important theyve told you it is to wipe down phones and to look at numbers and say one is bigger than the other without understanding contextYou just look like a mug in your mask There isnt some cabal of lizards lying to you the experts are simply telling you the truth of that masks dont really make any difference to average joe and theres not any point in wearing one to try and protect yourself from the virus|1 Call me confused but|0 nice|1 Breaking quarantine to leave Smart Ok|1 All the virologists and actual scientists are loonie lefties seeking to undermine Boris obviously Literally all of them|0 Please expand on this further andor publish a post about this Im incredibly interested|1 Jerk|0 All I know is he called the person a bad hombre|0 How can you just say its not true What are you basing this on Just the fact that Trump can do no wrong|0 No doubt I agree with you But it already happened Plus in any metro area with a lot of public transport and high density I think masks are probably the best idea|1 First and foremost they should rely on their own reasoning capacity before endangering other people At a practical level they should be contacting their local health agencies When I feel ill I dont call the federal government and expect them to do my thinking for me I contact my health provider and explain the symptomsAnd if you think Im off the reservation on this this is exactly the lesson learned during the ebola crisis local health and government agencies were the best responders while the federal government was less than helpfulI still believe people have a responsibility to educate themselves|0 They are not real are used for training Are they sharp Not as a real weapon Can them be dangerous Yes|1 Everyone who criticizes china on this sub gets downvoted|0 Or the link is to cnn Kind of a shit news org|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Great job w the synopsis Who could have known Everybody but you idiot|0 My main takeaway was that I should probably buy a gun so I dont get murdered like the protagonists neighbors|1 Now that Im fully prepared if my adult children and their families move home for the duration were good for 3 months Im starting to second guess the whole thing Everyone says its no big deal almost no serious illnesses here even though its surely spreading undetected blablablaIm glad I did all the preps before I got to this stage or I might have slacked off As it is the combination of not feeling panic but also being fully prepped feels as good as Ive felt in a month|1 Calm down its just like the flu|1 I went for a walk and literally needed to do a slalom from one side of the road to another to avoid old peoplePeople will expel virions with their breath and that wont linger like a sphere around them but be left in the air behind them as they move And then theres air currents to mix everything up Youd have to avoid them at a very large distance in order to optimize nonspread|0 im literally sitting in my office with a faceplate respirator on right nowx200BWe left normal back there at albuquerque my boyx200BThis is like practical dressup Im actually slightly enjoying scaring the shit out of my coworkers and hopefully getting some of them to think about the odds|1 Its gonna require a smarter better educated population Too many people literally cannot distinguish between countries like France and Sweden and countries like Venezuela and North Korea|1 There is a certain section of humanity whos lives are so dull and devoid of stimulation that they want to see a disaster just to feel alive|0 I think the fear comes from the fact that its the CDC itself making estimates of far more people getting infected and dying which to be fair are worst case scenarios Theres no way of knowing right now how many cases there actually are as so few tests have been made so unfortunately we will only ever know once everything is said and done And from what I understand we are on course to be worse than H1N1 someone else on the sub compared cases and deaths over time and found COVID higher in both casesAgain I get your point its unfair to only ever mention worst case scenarios but its misleading mentioning something like 2009 H1N1 without doing a fair apples to apples comparison|0 the link leads to the profile of the deputy minister of health the Polish team of scientists after analyzing the previous studies accepted the inclusion of the drug into the treatment it is recommended to provide the drug to every patient who has no medical contraindications the Ministry of Health in cooperation with the Polish company Adamed Pharma has secured drugs for patients and stockpiles|1 It wasnt a matter of the government chosing to limit testing After dismantling the office responsible for pandemic planning and defunding the CDC The government lacked capacity to test anyone other than the highest risk category And then of course those tests were faulty The CDC is only now beginning to let private labs participate in testingEdit The CDC did not get defunded However the rest of this remains the same The CDC was not prepared for a pandemic and it appears that they hampered the ability of the individual states to conduct testing|0 Wow Thats impressive|1 But that doesnt mean tests magically appear If there arent enough tests then I think the decisions of most countries makes sense The WHO can say you need to test everyone but its not like countries arent doing it because they feel like it The fact is there are not enough tests to test everyone This will not change in the near future so triage needs to be applied|0 Goddammit they didnt throw money in the stock market they offered shortterm debt to banks that will be paid back in a matter of weeks with a bit of interestReddit sounds smart until it starts talking about something you actually understand As a person who works in finance I try to avoid reading anything Reddit says related to it|0 So the state had a quick response to protect its population|1 Yes Ive heard that alcohol based hand sanitizers are effective against this disease from multiple reputable sources Though hand washing is still preferable where possible|1 How can you be so sure They arent testing enough people|1 thanks to our economy we have a high standard of living and we want to maintain that as much as we can not just come back to it another time thats not how economics worksNo Well we had better figure out how to make economics do just that because weve got a freight train bearing down on us Either we manage the economy or the situation is going to manage the economy for us|1 MN Scott County here Stay healthy friend|1 Dont generalize Im in my 30s and Im fairly confident than the younger generations are more liberal than mine I think its good|1 Mmmmmm but the virus WAS the most pressing fire for humanity almost two months agobut yeah i get it most people live in a very selfish way if is not happening to them they just dont fucking care|0 I am going to live in an active volcano or Florida|1 Yet HIV has resulted in about 800 000 deaths in 2018 The point is there is still no vaccine And it had to kill millions of people before we figured out how to live with it It still costs the world Billions each year to allow people to stay alive with it There is money but no cureIf covid19 is the same we will have massive loss of life before we figure out how to cure it prevent it or stop it from spreading|0 Are the big painter masks effective They give a full seal and can be n95 rated|1 It very well could become a ghost town but it seems to be business as usual from what I can tell No cases in town have been reported so far But I am sure that will change soon|1 Weve had decades of anti nationalist propaganda hurled as us and forced multiculturalism Its not surprising theres no faith in us pulling together as one nation to work for the greater good Were all fragmented and disenfranchised|1 I thought this was gonna say considering how many people are denied testing Id be surprised if the government ever released such a number|0 Im so sorry dude I really hope things get better for you|1 Bell curves are racist You cant mention such bigoted false ideas on Reddit|0 How can you not know the gentleman who were photographed with but know exactly how long that tookYou cantMans an embarrassment I feel sorry for all Americans right now|0 Given everything hes done so far with his party religiously backing him I wouldnt put it passed him He said it himself that laws dont apply to him|1 Im halfway through a jar of Critical orange punch everything is rosy here|0 Considering Trump could do something insane like shut off the supply of HIV anti viral or other coronavirus drug therapies made by US pharma xompanies because he felt slighted by a by a Canadian ban on US citizens I can see how this could be the lesser of two evils|0 Isnt his wife like 30 years older than him She was his high school teacher|0 From many reports you almost get the sense that some regions are left to fend for themselvesThere has to be at least some reserve capacity in other less affected regions of Italy or is the whole healthcare system strained to the limitIn China a lot of medical reserve personell were sent in to relieve the swamped regions Do you know to what extent this is happening in ItalyBest of luck to you all Many of us will soon be where you are Im afraid because most people dont see the seriousness of the situation even now|1 So i guess the people without a smartphone will just starve then|0 I am O I dont know or iono why that was never told to me and I was checked when I was super young back when I was in China but that was itAnyways I guess Ill be here holding down the fort then Am pharmacist probably useless compared to all you doctors and nurses|0 Thank you This right here gives me hope for the dark times ahead|1 Dont forget all the people who cant post on here because of censorship so theyre all posting on Weibo instead|1 Let me start off by apologizing for this long winded response there is a lot to unpack I believe youre missing the point and value of these commentsPanic mode is not terrible because it has the propensity to make people vigilant We all come to reach a panic point when faced with adversity its a psychological and physiological condition innate in all of us in order to avoid danger Just as panic is a byproduct of fear so is denial Panic at least has a goal to protect ourselves our loved ones and our society Denial on the other hand is dangerous because it provides no means of resolve its a stagnant condition perpetuated by itself and only serves the sufferer by providing a coping mechanism which inevitably leads to a lack of situational comprehension and awareness Ironically panic is a means to denials end as people usually need a sudden jolt to snap out of itThe facts remain perfectly healthy young people can have serious complications requiring weeks of hospitalization and patients may develop sequelae after suffering from serious illness caused by SARSCoV2 because this is a common feature of pneumonia and ARDS Sourcehttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamaarticleabstract475634 Sourcehttpswwwmedscapecomanswers300455107855whatarethecomplicationsofviralpneumonia SourcehttpswwwpatientcareonlinecomjournalrespiratorydiseasesunderstandingandimprovinglongtermsequelaeardsRight now Italian doctors are having to make tough calls choosing to give younger people lifesaving oxygen over older people because there is a limited amount of machines and younger people have a greater chance of surviving after they receive the treatment although this is not guaranteed There are plenty of otherwise healthy young people on supplemental oxygen and ventilation in Italy right now fighting for their lives If this was not true this choice would not need to be made Sourcehttpswwwtheatlanticcomideasarchive202003whogetshospitalbed607807 Sourcehttpswwwnytimescom20200312worldeurope12italycoronavirushealthcarehtml Sourcehttpsnymagcomintelligencer202003coronavirusanditshighmortalityrateamongolderpatientshtmlThe point of Dr Faucis comment and many others on here is that younger people need to be just as vigilant as older people when it comes to their health Not only could they potentially be saving their own lives but they are giving older people a fighting chance whether it be by not infecting them or by not directly competing with them in hospitalAs a 36 year old healthy person if I end up in the hospital and require oxygen there is no doubt in my mind I am going to feel guilty as hell probably for the rest of my life Guilt for not protecting myself better so to not potentially take oxygen away from someone else I only became aware of the totality of this situation because I didnt shut myself off to the alarming and seemingly panic driven news coming out of Italy In turn it provided me with yet another reason to be more prudent and not act selfishlyDr Fauci decidedly made these sobering yet diplomatic comments because he believes some young people are not aware of the risks The people on here go a step further to articulate their understanding as to the reason why this needs to be said some younger people havent undergone the critical selfpreservation panic stage because they do not feel like they are directly affected because they are unaware of certain facts selfish or in denial I think this is a legitimate assessment They then go on to inform us on why young people should be concernedAwareness no matter how people receive it come to accept it or decidedly share it is never a bad thing especially if it can help alter selfish behaviors that would have otherwise continued Unlike people experiencing denial vigilant people or people that were once panicked are by virtue of the condition more aware of their surroundings Yes some act selfishly ie toilet paper hoarders but a good majority of us critical thinkers do not Typically the hoarding sort reach the panic stage a little too late and all at the same time and they hoard because everyone else is hoarding ie they became situationally aware and panic drive panic Good news panic wains for most and they still have time to be vigilant prepared and think about others before this virus hits with full force It just so happens that this sub is filled with panic posts because we all reach the postpanic acceptance stage at different points Panic post are no less valuable than any other as long as they are filled with facts and the one you responded to was not incorrectMost importantly fear driven panic is better than selfish denial especially when other peoples behaviors can directly affect anothers health Its best if some are scared into accepting this situation opposed to galavanting in complete disregard Keeping in mind that those toilet paper people obviously plan to stay home so that is good and better than the alternativeHowever gaslighting others with blatant criticisms and varying levels of denial via a barrage of rhetorical questions is detrimental as it gives credence to the deniers You said you need facts but said nothing of value If you need facts well then go get em plenty are there and feel free to share your findings If they contradict someone then perfect you have proven your point while also contributing to everyones overall awareness of the situationWe all should panic at one point at least to some degree because it means were not numb idiot assholes Hopefully more panic now to get it over with rather than later as prudence vigilance and care can most certainly result and all are desperately needed now so we can all beat this thing Im happy to see that the flu comparisons have wained so this is a good sign we are moving in the right direction|0 My husband works in Atlanta industry and they were called off today I think his show was one of the last ones to shut down We are so fucked Italy is freezing mortgage and utility payments but I highly doubt the GOP will give us a dime|0 Public transportation is consistently unreliable in the states Cars are a valuable necessity to most Americans Theres a reason why its the preferred form of transportation across the country|1 Im a title agent in the US Ive started to Ebola shake elbow bump and straight up told them were not shaking handsEveryone seems okay with it so far|1 You almost certainly did not have it More and more people are saying this stop it|0 Are you talking about Raid Shadow Legends Raid Shadow Legends one of the biggest mobile roleplaying games of 2019 and its totally free Currently almost 10 million users have joined Raid over the last six months and its one of the most impressive games in its class with detailed models environments and smooth 60 frames per second animations All the champions in the game can be customized with unique gear that changes your strategic buffs and abilities The dungeon bosses have some ridiculous skills of their own and figuring out the perfect party and strategy to overtake thems a lot of fun Currently with over 300000 reviews Raid has almost a perfect score on the Play Store|1 If your a nurse theres no avoiding it|0 The numbers dont mean much regardless of them being true or not since they reflect testing capability not the real situationIn the other hand no country can contain a pandemic its exponential growth The public need to cooperate with the officials so lying about numbers always make things worse as its the downfall of society when people let their guards downTill this point where its clear that theres an outbreak in China I dont think their gov is that stupid to cover up the numbers|0 Useless infothey could get reinfected again|0 Great question lol Wed like try to answer the questions that are within our expertise but cant promise that we can answer all of them|1 Italy should provide an excellent cohort to study Germany and the UK were really too small to draw conclusions|1 Hahaha I just checked over there and this meme could not be any more trueEveryone is just purporting straight up conspiracy theories and fueling each other 100k infected 500k infected Government hiding all of it and a bum down the street leaked this information He is chinese He would knowI heard him cough once though Should I call the CDC or the CIAThis isnt even an exaggeration these are posts I saw in the last 24 hoursThank you rchinaflu for staying level headed and reasonable Level heads will keep us the most safe|0 Wearing a fucking face mask can prevent you from spreading to others a lot more efficiently|1 Wear a maskscarf and bring hand sanitizer with you Waits were really long in Los Angeles 2 hours Voting is on a digital touchscreen Heard some people coughing If possible wash your hands after you vote|1 Ive been here too Also cant believe it I really cant This sucks|1 He wont take it seriously until he gets it If he does Narcissists never do until it affects them personally|1 Fuck|0 Nobody said kids dont get it its just they have a very low percentage to die or go into serious condition|0 Oof thats truth man Thinking further down that train of thought though we have to atleast consider asking are we dumb as a collective inherently or have we been selectively trained to think this way by a school system that coincidentally modelled its classrooms after the factory workshops that taught women how to join the workforce Is it really out of the scope of the immagination that they designed a edu system to train us like pets in a kettleBecause that was way back then imagine with all of the progress weve made in the general sciences I have no doubt that social sciences were not left behind Maybe as a mass most of us who went to public schools and average colleges have all been dumbed down in a way Everyone knows how selective ivy league colleges can be perhaps theres a specific reason for that same as why the most intelligent generation to date as far as innovation is concerned also coincidentally has to pay 20 more for subpar colleges I guarantee you if we spent as much on our education as we do in our military you would have a drastically different opinion Our full potential wasted slaving for the greedy and selfish what a life|0 Congrats on quitting I quit a few years agoI do vape but I have the lung capacity of a sherpa now|1 Thank you for the information I worried about those people had contact with her Are they in quarantine now|1 Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine requires prescription where I am Turkey so that may be the case for other places Anyhow its a pretty cheap drug to manufacture Ive heard from a medical acquaintance there that theyve started to use it in Iran as well and getting good results Whats great is that the acquaintance told me theyve got a good supply of it and dont anticipate a shortage|1 I agree|1 Seems the US is having a tough time making the tests I read that the current tests SK and china that are being used are not very accurateCDC tried to get an accurate test which delayed it going out I guess which is worse Sending out tests that are inaccurate or trying to manufacture accurate testing protocolsSunday shows said that 50K test kits were going out Monday and the US should be able to test 20K a day within a few weeks|0 CDC We need to convince the Statistics not to buy masks any ideasCrony 1 Just tell them they only protect others Those selfish subhumans cant conceive of the greater goodCrony 2 Wont they realize that if everyone protects each othAll laughing and adjusting face shields Cough in sleeves Greater good Gooble gobble|1 I am in Paris and people tell me there is nothing we can do so My friends didnt even know that there were a lot of cases in Italy Maybe they are right they live their lives and if they get sick they think they will heal if not too bad but they dont want to live in fear After all the history of Europe its not about people who store food and shut themselves up at home for fear of danger |0 Well we dont necessarily have to completely close and quarantine entire cities do we In my state schools can and have closed temporarily as recently as this year for bad flu outbreaks I dont think its infeasible to put pressure on cancellation of large public events closing schools temporarily and encouraging working from home when possible If we can significantly lower the spread thats still better than not|0 Debt traps is such nonsense Go ahead and bring up Sri Lanka I dare you|0 Thank you Fixing it now|1 Google Sheets Its free and there are millions of good tutorials so you can learn as you go|1 but 90 of people suddenly give you a wide berth Its amazingGreat advice Thanks|1 It doesnt need toThe first case was only diagnosed on 4th of February People showing symptoms now were infected before the quarantine startedGive it 2 weeks from the start of the quarantine THEN see ifhow its spreading Though obviously you wont be able to count cases that share a room with someone diagnosed And theyre letting people take air in groups so thats not great isolation|0 Lol these senators will accept and deny whatever trump tells them to Luckily youre right hes supporting the bill so the senators should as well|1 I wish I had like 200k to invest in biotech companies Id be rich by the end of the year|1 i recommend hydrogen peroxide as it is cheap stainless and disinfects throughly very safe and wont damage the screen|1 Reading these comments is disgusting The same people hate sex abuse but dont recognize or wont admit that porn is sex trafficking|0 Sometimes when you catch a virus you develop a secondary infection Its common enough to take note of but I wouldnt lose sleep over it Look out for pneumonia symptoms especially a bad cough out of nowhere|0 New Rochelle is only a thing because they did some testing New Rochelle is a thing because the first guy infected in Westchester lived there and went to Temple for a few days and had his neighbor drive him to the hospital The people in contact with him were told to selfquarantine but its hard to force 600 people to selfquarantine The National Guard was sent in to enforce thisI live one town over and my sister came down with symptoms last friday She tested negative thank god|0 Totally agree Have a great local coffee shop but my 12 year old nieces prefer Starbucks Reasons include a pretty photos of chocolate drizzled blended drinks b everything is loaded with sweetener and syrup c a lot bigger variety even though its just a handful of flavor combinationsAnd d is probably most important because they go to an American public school Its a popular brand name Equivalent to other trending brands like Hydro flask wtf lol and iPhones Its like a social status thing I guess Probably also popular paid sponsors for streamers and YouTubers that they watch a lotHonestly I dont want to be in that group so extra reason not to go to Starbucks|1 So your saying Twilight has some literary value |1 Funding has drastically changed hands in this administration and its not a myth I have family that works in academic research and theres been a significant drop in available funding In fact to the point one had to drop research tied to paving the way to treat genetic diseases to private sector and finding quick drugs that will make companies moneyA quick example is Trump has put under qualified or lipservice people in charge of important regulatory boards Ex Trump administration appointed Nancy Beck to help oversee toxic chemical regulation She was a coal industry lobbyist as we as lobbies for the chemical industry and has specifically pulled back regulations that are based in solid science to promote Trumps probusiness antiregulation agenda Source httpse360yaleedufeatureshowtrumpadministrationhaspulledbackonregulatingtoxicchemicalsIts in removing the more qualified individuals and putting in people who will solely promote his desires without regard to even public safety|1 So youre saying that the precautions are appropriate to the current threat level|0 They had a place for items like that so even if theyre not responsible for it they still normally do something about it if they can Its having it then fucking around for months before telling me Yeah its gone now and cutting communication thats a dick move Especially after I spent about 20 for a prepaid shipping label like they said so it could be sent back Well some of them said Others said it wasnt necessary and they werent sure why I was told to do thatTell me its out of their hands right off Id accept that I called almost every single day to get it sorted being told and reassured it happens theyll get the phone back to me Then its gone and oh well|1 Nose job Unbelievable|1 Oh my god Someone above said we are the pathogens and the viruses are earths immune system |1 Lol is there supposed to be a s here that you missed This has been common knowledge for weeks if not months|1 Its too late people are fucking retarded and have bought everything people are selfish at their core and really dont give a shit if familys who actually need certain things go without I witnessed a young man buying 10 2 pint bottles of milk yesterday so I said is that needed mate He laughed and said he was going to freeze it just in case as he needed it for coffee With three young children myself who actually need milk I wanted to kill that idiot where he stood in all honesty|0 Exactly any single hospital will not be flooded with pneumonia cases until it has infected a ton of peopleHospitals undoubtedly have several pneumonia cases at any given time Add 12 more and it isnt unusualTo get 56 more than usual that would be noticed youd have a massive number of people infected for the generation coming behind itThen youre in the situation Wuhan was in on Jan 22nd where huge numbers of elderly and existing conditions had already been exposed|0 So its VERY likely you will get sick Would you rather get sick while at home with healthcare and insurance you know you have or in a foreign country already experiencing high outbreak s What if you have to be hospitalized 1020 will have to be even young people are Why risk it|0 What an intelligent response|1 its fake news|0 Good point Big names get recognition Even though its nothing too big for Faker its something and Im hoping people will see this and be more positive than critical I was also hoping it would help more people realize the positive contributions that ESport athletes can have Faker is one among many Wadid Cuvee etc to have donated Because hes the biggest names he gets the attention If you posted that you donated 5 I would hope that people give you nothing but praise and positive feedback|1 The Korean treatment guidelines for hydroxychloroquine are 400mgday if you have the illness source httpwwwkoreabiomedcomnewsarticleViewhtmlidxno7428Elsewhere Ive seen 800mg day one then 400dayThe 500mg twice a day thing is the Chinese dose for chloroquine for treatmentWhat you say 400mgday if you get a fever is probably sensible though proper medical treatment better The docs have a bunch of other stuff they can dothe prophylactic stuff is pretty untested who knows|1 Or is it smart because of the loads of misinformation out thereAs soon as the WHO says pandemic the world is going to collapse People are attacking each other over toilet paper already if it is called a pandemic everyone will start murdering and stealing shit because all the headlines will be THE PANDEMIC IS REAL HUMANITY IS CANCELLEDIn a time where misinformation and social media decide how people act you have to wait until the last possible moment to stick a word on it that has these implications Especially since pandemic is not a strictly defined word it can be interpreted many ways and media will most definitely use the one most scary|0 Production bottlenecksOh thats easy we can just produce it in Chi |1 I didnt realise my phone autocorrected but oh well|1 Chicken pox is a great example also of a virus which is very mild on children and very very dangetous to adults|1 Ive seen them do that for norovirus before but some people still went in and out Thank you for your appreciation it means a lot|1 Its astounding really when you look at it The amount of money he started with when adjusted to inflation is more than what hes worth today Even if he just took all his money and stuck it in mutual funds and did nothing hed have way more than today Thats how easy it is to make money when you start with that much Really shows how stupid he is|1 Wow I had forgotten what a responsible proactive leader looks like Way to go dude|1 See this is how you do you die hard fucking capitalist morons|0 Thats a fine imagination youve got there good sir|1 Nope You will see quite a few studies that are looking for people who have reduced kidney or liver function because it is important for us to know how the drug may affect people who have those conditions Drugs are metabolized and leave your body either through your liver or your kidneys There is also a significant number of studies looking for people who have active street drug use because sometimes we have to determine a drugs potential abuse liability|0 I dont have kitty yet But am in email exchange and the shelter seems as excited as I am about the idea so should happen in the next day or two |1 They did nothing and then they did everything all at onceWhich is what our government plans on doing They want to wait to SUMMER Viruses well they dont wait|1 Talking about a cultures TENDENCIES doesnt not make you a racist If we say Chinese people tend to go to the hospital immediately if they get sick instead of the GP that is NOT a racist statementKnock this off man Ive been on this sub for a good 5 days and Ive seen barely any of that a majority of it is criticism of the Chinese government|1 Its the slippery slope argument gun rights people use First you close the schools then you gotta shut down the MTA Hes trying to avoid shutting the MTA down at all costs and the schools being open gives the MTA a good reason to keep going|0 Thats a dumb joke|0 US National leaders are responsible for the current clusterfuck thats hitting America Your local leaders and more importantly healthcare workers are going to be the people that help everybodys loved ones work through the recovery and the dyingAnd theyve been doing it for the people AlwaysSource Am healthcare provider with 150000 student loans no home because student loans early 40s making 60000 per year with immunocompromised wife I still work in my field because everybody matters even the moronic mouthbreathers who spent the last 3 weeks telling me theyre not worried because they already had the flu shot last year|1 That is not how this virus is believed to work A population death rate as low as 1 is only achievable with full medical care but a not insignificant minority require hospitalisation to survive If 2 million were sick itll require roughly 100000 ICU beds not including hospitalisation for less critical patients requiring oxygenIf it was in small isolated villages that might explain slow initial spread It could have been mistaken as an outbreak of influenza|0 I wonder if its done to stop mass panic|0 I would but she also objects to us giving her flu shots and HPV vaccine Because we are exposing her to diseases Oh the irony|0 Also look at how much they cleared up in one day Left is from 316 right two are from 315|1 Id like to point out that there are plenty of people who knew what to do on day 1 It needs to be knows that its not the citizens tho squandered to opportunity but the govts|1 Yes and getting pneumonia doesnt mean you automatically get permanent lung damage|0 positive the CDC is just letting them self isolate yeah no thats not good thats freaking scary the CDC is acting to casual about Covid19 in the US but has the audacity to tell everyone to prepare like no shit if youre just gonna let people self isolate at home with no inforced restrictions then yeah maybe we should because of your negligence|0 Well its either complain and get walked all over or dont and get walked all over Doesnt make a difference|0 No one said anything about sucking cock man and you need to stop jumping to that as a solution|0 Brilliant|1 Medicaid is the only safe insurance plan in the US that or being a millionaire|1 Unfortunately China and liberals here thought it was racist to close borders so here we are|0 Thanks Taiwan|1 Interesting It seems insane to me that our government just wont give the go ahead Good luck and thanks for your work|1 The death rate of this virus for 80 year olds is only 14 and the death rate for all 80 year olds is 1314 IIRC anyways so keep that in mind For every one death theres 6 recovered for older folk|0 thank you lots of mayo|1 WTF|0 An excel spreadsheet can do this guys job Fire his ass|0 Could there be benefit from adults consuming it assuming the mother tests negative for the antigen but positive for the antibody|1 Its not your fault but God this country is fucked up This is the exact reason we need paid sick leave for everyone in the country If only there was a political party in this country that actually cared enough to stand up and do the right thing|0 Yes lmfao I wish those people had been right though|1 that or the fact that its been in the US for weeks and just nobody tested anything even though many people asked for tests but were denied unless they had contact with people who had it|0 Shits not uncommon My stepdad has a hiatal hernia and has been coughing for years now And yeah hes considered surgery but the doctor said only 30 of cases have positive long term outcomes|1 Tell me more could it have been faster maybe but the first inkling something might be up was reported December 30th They actively researched the virus and did targeted quarantines On January 22nd they quarantined a city of 11mm people I couldnt imagine the US government acting that fast to be honest would the American social climate accept a quarantine of even a city of 1MM people IdkAllinall these are difficult decisions Chinese government sucks and all that but I wonder at some of the criticism still|1 I am placing my bets on Tiger defenceSidenote That Guan Dao looks kinda fake but those 2 spears Im willing to bet they are real|0 Theyre busy preventing panic Remember even with the case in Washington 35 he was listed as stable and well by the news until he recovered Then they released a study on the course of his disease He developed severe pneumonia and was treated with experimental drugs|0 Every new US report is depressingly matching exactly my expected timetable and its all bad coming still imoSpoke to my mother in AZ end of last weekTends to watch liberal MSM and distrust anything from WH or independent media or sources So I who have been hunting and reading every single sourced data I can find for over a month now tend to avoid bringing up anything not stated as fact on that mediaLives a bit out of town in small development with wide spaces between but entirely dependent on going in for food and meds and doctors regularly Also near where the massive gem and mineral show is wrapping up after weeks of intl and US and Southwest residents touch sales goods directly and interact constantlyMid 80s has controlled diabetes and in a very slow recovery from surgery last year to remove cancerous breast tissue and lymph nodes and still more spots on lungs being monitoredHome health techs come 3xweek for 4 hours and no control over which of a list of ones she likedI coughed once while updating her on entirely unrelated life things And she made the universal oooo thats not good sound first then said Are you sick Have you maybe been exposed there to the virus I was shocked tbh but it was a surprise opening so I took itEven she is leery sees it is sweeping across the world and only a matter of time highly contagious very deadly to some and far worse than the flu for many and asked if I was still going out to stores orSo I could reassure her I had been stocking up for weeks avoiding busy stores or times limiting dramatically my public contacts and private socializing and even buying meds and supplements normally unneeded but that could prevent badness while at home through this messAnd so ask her about how she is doing that way seems has plenty of food basics and otc meds would be good to get more fresh to prep and into freezer and Rx are a worry doctors have not addressedNo ability to drive self to buy excess cleaning supplies and funds depleted anyways waiting for LTC insurance to pay out vs try and refuse for covered care But planned to stop for fresh on way to doctors this week when driven by home health tech there and backWe left unsaid that THEY are her most likely vector for infection but it was in her voice And she cannot possibly function without them stillBetween my mothers multiple risks and BOTH my daughters and half my grandkids having first or secondhand high risk areas health field exposures daily in early infections andor quarantine areas in the US and one set of cograndparent helping care for my oldest grandchild who SURPRISE literally came back from visiting So China on the 31th of JanYou could say Im losing sleep and stressed badly And this cough is at least productive in removing lung gunk while otc meds are loosening it up Probably RSV as my youngests entire family had it a week or so before my last visit Jan 18th but hey who knows right |0 Hopefully we keep getting more good news|1 Thank you a quanto pare un sacco di gente sta segnalando e non ci crede ma vabb non c peggior sordo di chi non vuol sentire Buona fortuna|1 If he was forced to pay a fine equal to his annual salary then he wouldnt have done so|0 Thank you|1 Is there an actual article somewhere for more context Not just a tweet Im a bit OTL but this right here just seems like hey everyone dont panic but like panic|1 Probably no more than any other laborer Most work fairly independently loading their own trucks driving their own routes and dropping off their own packages Persontoperson contact is what results in infection in most cases right I dont think delivery drivers risk a lot of that on a daytoday basis|0 Thats warmer than most areas hit by the virus The theory was that the virus spreads more quickly in areas seeing highs in the 40s and 50s and that warmer wether areas mid 60s and above wouldnt see outbreaksSince its only one case hard to tell at this point|1 That sucks Imagine being on that ship Must feel like jail by now and a feeling of tick tick tick as you feel anticipation of falling seriously ill|0 Good ol druptodate|1 Isnt lungrespiratory more of a concern for this virusIn the last few days weve learned that the way the virus works may aggravate existing underlying conditions in many patients and it also affects patients differently depending on factors like the viral count before shedding their immune system maturity and blood typeThe virus may increase in lethality for people from certain blood groups with a heart condition diabetes lowered kidney function encephalitis gut flora issues lung damage from smoking weak valves etc|0 Im just curious but do you honestly trust in Trumps leadership to lead us through a pandemic and economic collapse This is a guy who can barely read whose briefings need pictures and his name written everywhere just to keep his attention Im not saying this is a partisan issue I think theres plenty of Republicans who can handle this much better than most democrats Im just saying this from an individual standpoint Trump may be one of the worst leaders you can have for this emergency He thinks this will go away in April|0 the government request that all elementary jr high and high school and special need schools nation wide be closed|1 but not migrant crisis management|1 Also its not like people are going to poop more for the next 3 months so in a few weeks theres going to be mountains of unbought toilet paper everywhereI really hope we never find intelligent aliens because Ill be embarrassed to be a member of this species|0 Its going to be high Government need a solid plan of action before they announce the numbersNot sure if youve seen yet but its 52|1 Sorry|0 The delay phasewhat on earth does this even mean I live in China and right now im more worried about my family and friends back in the UK than I am for people here|0 Theres not at this point Last week would have been bonds tbills gold Best thing you can do now is weather If youre a long term investor youll be fine If you were due to retire next year Ive got bad news for you |1 Yes and masks help you remember not to do that at least with your mouth and nose If you greet people by putting your fingers in their mouths and then aggressively poking yourself in the eye the mask probably wont do any good at all|1 I guess what you are saying matches what a lot of people were saying about the conspiracy theory guys conclusions at early stages of growth quadratic models fit well also|1 No Ever heard of allergies Having food or water going down the wrong way Or being exposed to dust or other irritants that cause you to cough I havent been sick in over seven years|0 saw a local fb post of an estate agent reassuring people that viewing are still going ahead ffsPeople still need to be able to buysell houses|1 Stay safe and thank you|1 WTF|0 Oh I see I did not know there are widely available in vitro replication methods for B cells thanks|1 I been missing Obama|0 You suck|0 Oh oh no you rich money grubbing fucks already did that with the immense amount it costs for health care The only reason they are doing it know is because if it spreads it might adversely effect the rich and powerful|1 Thank you very much for translating this I cant stop thinking to all the peoole in China suffering like this It is heartbreaking And there is nothing we can do I feel like most of world is showing no empathyis like its an unbelievable thing|1 I get a lot of groceries delivered by Instacart and I know theres a note on the home page saying Publix prices are higher on Instacart plus Ive compared them to instore prices in addition to delivery fee and tip for the driver Its definitely more expensive than going out and buying it|1 Trump went on TV and lied straight faced to all of us He said 1 million by the end of the week Trump is a criminal he defrauded us He wasnt given bad info He is a narcissist He always lives in a make believe world he invents to make him not admit failure Its an emotional illness and its incurable He will never stop inventing BS You and I just got screwed because we believed him|0 You are the proof that there is no cure for STUPID and there never be one either|0 Oh fuck|0 Excellent perspective Its not just the event or the aftereffects of it its when you have a normal everyday coincidental unrelated crisis while under the aftereffects of the event and it spirals Just s bad cut when the hospitals are fucked|0 A translation for a scripted article from a sensationalist fake news source|0 The thing is they screw this up bad enough and the mob could call for them to lose their head|0 Why do your numbers end with January while the flu season in Western Europe usually starts in January Nvm We all know the answer |0 Eh the leadership never said make faulty test kits|1 We cant even get meaningful data out of quinine while people are dying and these people are pressing a button on their laptop republishing 30 year old research under the guise of COVID None of these are immediately deployable at scale and the trials theyve run are obfuscated by adding other Chinese medicines|0 Makes you wonder about the Darwin theory and Natural Selection a bit doesnt it|1 Life has to go onLife would 100 go on if we stopped international travel to hot zones Off season tourism is literally one of the least essential aspects of civilization I can think of FFS Civilizations either adapt or die Seems like far too many people want to continue the status quo even if it kills them|0 Good on you for stockpiling I say the one silver lining to this outbreak is that it happened during new years when Chinese people stock up on food I was staying with my aunty during the outbreak and she had three months worth of food in her country home so we didnt need to leave at all|1 Im 40 I work with many people a bit over and a bit under We arent old but arent spring chickens The young adults also with strong immune systems are at risk of any flu that is airborne You dont want a strong immune system attacking your lungs|1 Hah could you sound more pretentiousI actually meant to send an MIT article but yeah sorry youre so above wired Enjoy sucking yourself off|1 Yeah but really NYT writes a lot of articles on how shit America is so its not really surprising for them to say country X is doing something better|0 With a 1 death rate were gonna see 75 million if everyone gets infected|0 ol billy started this I just hope I survive|1 Being in the high risk category I plan my grocery trips like a seal team 6 mission lol|1 Its not so much the closed quarters Its that any situation where a select few workers have to provide services to a large amount of people viruses spread like wildfire in that population Cruise ships prisons nursing homes etc When the virus spreads to the workers it will then rapidly spread to the people inside of them Why Because in all of those places you have people going from room to room doing peoples laundry and delivering food to each person meaning its very easy to pick up the virus and very easy to give it to every person there|1 Well I agree with you But at least nowadays there is endless digital transcripts proving history of people I am sure many will take the time to purge their comments or maybe not I dont think our 1 priority should be to assign blame We need to keep convincing people now That is our priority I have become more and more adamant about proving my points and not letting people get away with saying bull shit Its a little easier with the horrible news coming out of Italy|1 no fucking shit lol|0 No it is unlimited in certain all markets you can just pay Comcast extra 50 and get rid of 1Tb data cap I use this service at 1GBps connection and Im routinely over 5Tb a month See httpswwwxfinitycomsupportarticlesexpunlimiteddatahttpswwwxfinitycomsupportarticlesexpunlimiteddata|0 The surgeon general just advised people like you to stay homehttpsnypostcom20200308surgeongeneralexpectmorecoronavirusdeathsbutdontpanic|1 I would LOVE to see an HBO mini series that was more true to the book|1 This greedy behaviour is intolerable|0 Man wait till you get prescribed some shit that gives terrible withdrawals but they call it discontinuation syndrome and argue its not withdrawal because you dont crave the drug youre just physically going through hell from not having it abruptly Pissed me off they can say its not addictive and prescribe it off label in place of an addictive drug that works better Either way youre dependent|0 Thank you Sincerely|1 Each small town has a number of people quarantined when they come back from China my district has about 15 School was delayed by 2 weeks mostly because of them This drastic measure was overkill according to some but i think its good foresight|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 No they werent|0 I did a rough estimate from South Korean data thats outdated by now Im sure that showed 08 CFR overall but was broken up by age ranges eg 2029 My estimate of Italys demographics in South Koreas CFR situation was 13 the US 09 All of this was inspired by an article comparing Italy and South Korea and making the case that the demographics of the initial infected population matter My takeaway from that was that the demographics do matter but not a whole lot once you get to a wide spread infection and that the healthcare system is what makes the biggest difference in CFR Kind of obvious in hindsight but it was interesting to go through the estimation|1 II The preventative measures were poorSouth Korea were one of the few countries in the world to not ban travelers from China not even quarantining and testing themAccording to ReutershttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthsouthkoreachurchmembersofchurchatcenterofsouthkoreascoronavirusoutbreakvisitedwuhankcdcidUSKBN20O1D5SEOUL Reuters Some members of a church at the center of South Koreas coronavirus outbreak visited the Chinese city of Wuhan in January where the disease is believed to have originated the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on SundayMost of the South Korean patients were traced to a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in the southeastern city of Daegu The church had a presence in WuhanKwon Junwook a KCDC official confirmed for the first time that some members of the church visited Wuhan during a briefing He said it was unclear how many went there and whether the trip played a role in the outbreakEmphasis minePatient 29 30 and 31 were all community cases who got infected from someone else around the end of Jan and beginning of Feb Assuming that they were only the second link in a chain and not somewhere further down we can see that the people who infected them were infected by end of Jan at the latest estimation when there was 17 000 infected cases in Hubei the Chinese authorities hadnt enacted lockdown on Hubei and prevented Chinese nationals from going to other countries on tours and the South Korean government didnt even enact quarantine on all travelers from China Even if a member of Shincheonji travelling from Wuhan was the only patient 0 the only reason why they would managed to get in and spread the disease undetected in South Korea was because the South Korean government refused to enact proper preventative measures and waited for China to do it for them And judging from the 4 different alarm bells within 2 weeks either there wasnt only 1 patient 0 or there was a super spreader patient 0 undetected Further genetic testing of the viral strains within the infected population can determine exactly which scenario it was but as of now I havent come across such reportTo sum up part 2 The preventative measures to prevent the epidemic from entering the country were either lacking or done poorly in line with the subsequent poor containment measures and failure to put out the epidemic quickly due to inherent structural problemsIII The inherent structural problemsA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease and not wear masks is allowed to exist and spread their ideology for yearshttpseditioncnncom20200226asiashincheonjisouthkoreahnkintlindexhtmlA cult that encourages its followers to hide their potentiallyepidemiccausing disease was allowed to infiltrate the political and healthcare system so deeply that a senior health official in charge of infection prevention in Daegu was discovered to be a member after he was tested positivehttpswwwlatimescomworldnationstory20200227southkoreacoronaviruscasessurveillanceA healthcare and political system inexperienced with and reactive instead of proactive in dealing with epidemic having overfocused on preparing for when the epidemic had already got out of control having failed to prepare and enact the measures in the 2 most crucial time periods of epidemic development the preventative windows and the containment windowsA healthcare political and social structure that allows people to skip quarantine and testing even in a middle of a pandemic of all things when the lives of thousands of people both inside the country and in the world are on the lineA healthcare political and social structure that condemns other countries for having actually preventing the spread by quarantining testing and treating their people Because human rights Even when thousands are going to be deprived their own basic human rights to be healthy to have medical attention and to be not dead because of such human rightsA government that did not stand up to protect its people against the slightest pressure from the neighborhood superpower that same human rights violator neighborhood superpower even though that neighborhood superpower later retracted the pressure and enacted the travel restriction themselves But that government would readily kick up a storm when other countries actually do what they failed to doThe sensationalist media and government authorities keep on shifting all the blames on various other targets other than themselves instead of recognizing the inherent structural problems in the South Korean political and healthcare system and actually fixing themWhile many many South Korean individuals especially the healthcare professionals have been doing their best to fight back the epidemic it is also undeniable that the political and healthcare structure of South Korea as a whole did very poorly in preventing and containing covid19 resulting in the silent spread of the epidemic among the population around end of January and early February which was the reason why the number of reported infected cases spiked around the end of February|0 You use plural Do you get the flu that often or do you just mean the common cold|0 To be fair there is pretty strong evidence that Echinacea can improve immune function and help with respiratory infectionsStill irresponsible and disgusting they removed that for 20 million Smh|1 singapore as well is doing things very right|1 The POTUS leads the precise departments under the executive branch of our federal government in charge of coordinating and responding to emergencies PRECISELY like this one He should have led the charge OVER A MONTH AGO Wanna know what he spent that time doing and sayingJanuary 22 We have it totally under control Its one person coming in from China Its going to be just fineFebruary 2 We pretty much shut it down coming in from ChinaFebruary 24 The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA Stock Market starting to look very good to meFebruary 25 CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling CoronavirusFebruary 25 I think thats a problem thats going to go away They have studied it They know very much In fact were very close to a vaccineFebruary 26 The 15 cases in the US within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zeroFebruary 26 Were going very substantially down not upFebruary 27 One day its like a miracle it will disappearFebruary 28 Were ordering a lot of supplies Were ordering a lot of uh elements that frankly we wouldnt be ordering unless it was something like this But were ordering a lot of different elements of medicalFebruary 28 Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus you know that right Coronavirus theyre politicizing it We did one of the great jobs You say Hows President Trump doing They go Oh not good not good They have no clue They dont have any clue They cant even count their votes in Iowa They tried the impeachment hoax That was on a perfect conversation They tried anything They tried it over and over Theyd been doing it since you got in Its all turning They lost Its all turning Think of it Think of it And this is their new hoaxMarch 2 You take a solid flu vaccine you dont think that could have an impact or much of an impact on coronaMarch 2 A lot of things are happening a lot of very exciting things are happening and theyre happening very rapidlyMarch 4 If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by you know sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work but they get betterMarch 5 I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to workMarch 5 The United States has as of now only 129 cases and 11 deaths We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possibleMarch 6 I think were doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down a tremendous job at keeping it downMarch 6 Anybody right now and yesterday anybody that needs a test gets a test Theyre there And the tests are beautiful the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect The transcription was perfect Right This was not as perfect as that but pretty goodMarch 6 I like this stuff I really get it People are surprised that I understand it Every one of these doctors said How do you know so much about this Maybe I have a natural ability Maybe I should have done that instead of running for presidentMarch 6 I dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasnt our faultMarch 8 We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirusMarch 9 This blindsided the world|1 I really dont think she is lyingIf you are in the center then youre probably not going see a dog or a cat being eatenBut there probably just are certain places that certain people go to that most people dont know about|1 Just because the other hasnt announced doesnt make them bad guys|1 Please help us by reporting it too Most reposts on the mod queue are usually swiftly removed|1 Again the new protein in sars2 makes all the difference No one knows what side effects will be experienced by the 80 who recover without needing any support It is possible that virtually survivors will have no long term issues It is also possible that man of them will No one knows because this virus has new elements in it These new elements make it more infectious but they can also make it has fewer side effects Stop fear mongering until the data for this virus in is|0 No one deserves to be affected by this virus|0 Here ya goI cant my original comments in the thread only through my inbox weirdhttpsapppowerbicomviewreyJrIjoiNDI4YzdjNDYtYzQxYi00OGViLWIwOTEtZDVlZTUwMTJmMGUyIiwidCI6IjQ3NDNhZDk4LWJhZjctNDRiNS1hMTQxLTVkZjA2MTIzOTQyNCIsImMiOjZ9|0 Hey same here Its just that folks in charge always seem to be short term profit focussed guys who will fuck over everything to get their way|0 honestly people need to stop thinking of regions as being the issue Its not like theres a toxic myst around Seattle or Westchester Theres just some dozens of people who have it and the biggest risk is those they spend the most time with and while the lack of testing is frustrating theyre isolating those theyre in contact with if you are good with handwashing and nottouching your face and a bit of social distancing mainly dont shake hands youre in good shape|0 The civil protection said it right after the number|1 why are there so many people with symptoms that test negative 120 people have symptoms but only 20 tested positive what is wrong with the other 100 people they all happen to have the regular flu or something thats not the coronavirus|0 Grocery store workers are some of the unsung heroes of the pandemic If you work at one thank you for your serviceThey plan to keep grocery stores open with reduced hours to allow for more cleaning If its like other parts of the world they may only allow a certain number of shoppers into the store at one time|1 How are you and your family doing Everyone healthy Good luck thereIt is nice you have internet for access to communication news and entertainment I think in America we will be fine as long as people have their internet Id be fine without it for awhile lots of books but it would feel isolating very quickly with no idea what is going on in the world outside your door|1 Better late than never|1 Canada doesnt even have a ban on any infected countries|0 Also rural NY Im sorry for your experience and thank you for doing your part|1 Criminal negligence Nothing less|0 Hope for the best prepare for the worst|1 My job could be done at home and online but my employer only began planning for that contingency on Wednesday 311 The entire IT team is trying to make it happen but they started just a teensy weensy bit late IMONo way Ill be working from home tomorrow so Ill be back at my desk in the morning|0 I am sure that is going to happen Not|1 Seems like govt officials whove been downplaying this virus should be given the same charges|1 Its my understanding that we test deaths pretty consistently Its the live ones that we cant do|1 Car factory I work at wont close until there is noone to work here So how important are those cars for our survival|1 I can see where youre coming from but Im actually shocked with how UK is handling the situation They are only weeks away from an Italylike situation 800 cases as of today and refuse to close schools and businesses I agree S Korea did a fantastic job and think that should be the gold standard response But I wonder how much of that was their ability to get masks and medicine gave everyone HC or antivirals as soon as they showed symptoms both things we likely wont have access to since we dont make them in Canada|1 Thats true But as I said on my last post China issued a Military Order to all 78 labs to max out their testing capacity and digest all the stock in 2 days 1 of the 78 labs doubled their testing capability from 500 to 1000 and said they will be able to test 5000 samples daily within 3 days So if the rest of the labs increase it as well I think they will analyze all pending samples about 200k people waiting for testes within 1 week and catch the real infection rate after that If its true the next confirmed cases will be much higher like never before|1 I hope the exact opposite occurs based on how irresponsibly young people are behaving right now Unfortunately you will almost certainly get your wish and the people who recklessly put others lives at risk and contributed to their deaths will be unfairly prioritized And we will be left with a society filled with amoral proxykillers|1 I live in Shanghai at the moment and I am slightly worried I just hope in a couple months when I can still find means to get back to USA|1 The more I think about it I like the 2k per household Generally everyones highest monthly expense is housing mortgagerent and 1k doesnt cover much in most areas of the country so any household with one adult is screwed especially the ones with single parents Also it just seems a waste to give six adults living together 1k each|0 Shit lol I just ordered some cpu coolers off aliexpress|0 Try a go fund me campaign You may not be able to get your house back but you may be surprised|1 Yes some Starbucks are closing For example Starbucks in malls makes you wonder why those employees are allowed to stay home yet hundreds of others are not Personally I know I have not only been ridiculed for expressing my concerns to management but downright talked to ie basically punished for expressing my concerns My coworkers all agree but will not risk speaking up|1 You think these outlets inform the public NYTimes WaPo EtcThese places are part of the same systems both corporate and governmental that have suppressed relevant info from the beginning Fuck them Let them die and let us speak freely|0 Sure but if the entire world is basically stopping in their tracks and hospitals are having to do wartime triaging Im okay with taking some risks to get to effective treatment sooner A lot of people are going to die anyway In the worst case scenario they still die despite the treatment if its ineffective in the best case scenario it works and we can save a fuckton of people|0 What I understood from his explanation he folds three papers and wipes with that 3ply fold Like why not just use the pieces individually 9 pieces for single shit is a bit overkill|0 My dad hasnt left the house in 2 weeks not even to go to the mailbox Hes like if I can survive Vietnam I can survive this Im so relieved I didnt have to convince him We just got the first few cases in our area and I feel like he will be safe as long as I can keep him contained|1 This is a fact not a could Ive been telling my wife this all week Between the naysayers and the people who simply cant afford the time off its going to take off slow and rocket unchecked to the moon Ive been sick for a week and woke up today feeling particularly shitty I called a tenant at a house I was supposed to work on today and simply canceled the job telling them that Im sick dripping from fever sweat and didnt feel like it was the best idea to come by today Im in Sacramento and figured theyd be appreciative of my staying away NOPE They immediately called the landlord who hired me and complained that I wasnt coming The icing on the cake was the call from the property manager They were pissed that I canceled laughed at me for canceling and called me a hypochondriac just for mentioning CDC and WHO recommendations That was followed up by her telling me that regardless if she gets it or not shed still be at her desk doing her job So I got yelled at laughed at called names and then shamed for not going to a strangers house with a fever and cough Thats likely going to be the rule and not the exception unfortunately|0 I listened to his speech about fear it was great He would be a great political leader|1 Im around the same age as you Im 30 If you are otherwise healthy this virus seems to be very mild in our age range The ones who are getting the sickest are the ones who are much older than us or have other underlying health problemsEat good food take a good multivitamin drink plenty of water try to get lots of sleep and of course try to exercise Take care of your body and your immune system will return the favor in most cases Try not to worry even though its hard I found that meditation helps with my anxiety I also found that talking with my family and friends makes me feel better and of course this subreddit has helped I was also able to find a really good counselor who helped to put my fears to rest for the most part If all of that fails you can certainly talk to me as I said earlier Im more than happy to help in any way that I can Like I said this is a good bunch of people are we all try to be as supportive as possible|1 Not just tested but suspected of having itGoogle translated pagehttpstranslategooglecomtranslatehlenslptuhttpswww1folhauolcombrcolunasmonicabergamo202003wajngartenvoltadeviagemaoseuacombolsonarocomsuspeitadecoronavirusshtml|0 Successfully recovering Can we talk to one of these people|1 Someone says they avoid sick people So his advice would be most likely avoid as he would|0 But Trudeau will send warm thoughts your way|1 Patent system is enforced monopoly for the rich the person who invents earns way less than the corporations|1 Schools could be closing after the break from what I hear I agree thou ppl shouldnt be traveling|1 How was I supposed to know the youngest had the flu last week Am I psychic Its been offered especially after I found out Mom has been watching them|0 So If they put you in jail that means you will infect the entire jail population What a stupid Idea|0 I dont think they are Trump said they are but there is no evidence anything has started here At least for actual new respirator factories Whatever production capacity we had 2 months ago is the same we have now|0 3 weeks into this and still really not clear ifhow this will affect daily life for people around the world httpstwittercomviruswhispererstatus1229793838413250561s21|0 Great theyll remove that word next|1 Jesus I wish you luck I Dont suppose an ineffective mask and gloves will go over well|1 Its very hopeful |1 lets not stop there every gov that delay response too|0 if its HDD then everythings ok|1 Someone on my newsfeed blamed the media for hyping coronavirus and causing the needless cancellation of SXSW Did we not see what happened on the cruise ship or nursing home Spreads like wildfire when people are in close quarters Canceling the show is literally saving lives These are facts not media downplay or hype|0 httpswwwtwitlongercomshown1sr63umnewposttruehttpswwwtwitlongercomshown1sr63umnewposttrueI posted but people downvoted me so here is the twit longer for those that want to know whats going on in the Facility|1 For almost the same exact reasons average lifespan differs between countries Different healthcare systems and levels of quality quality of air pollution and access to healthy food water quality of smokersobesity were not all equal|1 Are you an epidemiologist Infectious disease specialist Or do you just go with your gut instinct about matters you dont understand in the slightestWhat is your area of expertise How do you feel when people assume they know more about your field than you do Are they ever correctEdit I see you are an expert on the Syrian Civil War as well And occasionally check in at TheDonald A grand total of three subs on which you are active and no other interests Do you get paid for this|1 Between now and the day I die in 120 years I rate the likelihood of living through a period of no water no heat and looters to be reasonably probable But I dont get to know in advance which minor hiccup turns into a bigger one So in order to be prepared if and when it DOES happen I need to be properly pared for the big one even if in the moment it seems smallI dont own a fire extinguisher because I expect to light the kitchen on fire later tonight And the same is true for owning a solar panel having candles dozens of gallons of water and a firearm|0 North Florida so yes Thank you|1 Thank god our grandparents and unions fought for our rights Sucks the new gov is slowly undoing it all Soon well be like America and be on our own during a crisisCant wait for the younger generation to outnumber the idiotic boomers who still think todays Liberals are the same as the pasts They vote for what used to work not knowing the damage its actually causing us|1 Yeah Costco was full of them yesterday Theyre the only people who should self quarantine|1 Thats why the voice sounded so familiar Thank you|1 Italy should be compared not with whole China but with probably Hubei province Because other provinces in China have started tracking and isolation of the people from Hubei quite early thus contained better the virus spreading also the medical resources being in tight condition also made the death rate much higher If you look into numbers in Wuhan or Hubei province its much higher than nonhubei provinces or whole China|0 Keep reminding us buddy Im sure it will stay that way indefinitely if you just keep reminding us|1 Curious Do you know how long itd take for your immune system to regain function if you stopped taking the meds Wondering if thats something doctors mention to you I have a relative that is on arthritis drugs and wondering if itll be worth him not taking them for awhile if this thing gets big Hes pretty rough when not on drugs so its not a great situation|1 Thanks a lot It helps us to determine when we need to go in quarantine Please be safe and wishing you and you loved ones the besthealth|1 The healthcare provider has now turned to volunteers and donations according to The AJC That includes bleach supplied by chicken factories and cardboard boxes provided by restaurants Staff have also been identified who are able to sew masks if supplies run outWere only a few weeks into this and we already need chicken factories and quilting bees to help out We are so fucked|0 Thats where they want you to believe it came from After doing more research Im starting to believe the coincidences are unreal and this likely leaked out of the laboratory just a few miles away Im usually no conspiracy theorist however the coincidences are uncanny httpsarchiveisQIBmEhttpsarchiveisz1nbDhttpsarchiveisAhdATI encourage people to be openminded If you think that its totally impossible remember To err is human No one can be perfect 100 of the time and sometimes there are grave consequences to seemingly inconsequential actions As a worker in the medical field this rings true on so many levels Im not saying that anyone did this on purpose Its completely possible that someone made a mistake in handling especially considering how transmissible this is Edit to add some sources|0 Youre definitely thinking of Zuckerberg|1 Thanks You too|1 I got a bad feel then when it dawns on them many are going to freak out I know its scary at this point you have to be away with the faeries to not be at least mildly freaked For me I had to find out about it and face my fears I guess many are scared and would rather stay in denial that face up what is happening Take care|0 Correct there is a chance you could have been a vector for the disease Its really hard to tease out those who are asymptomatic always because theres no actual testing to measure this atm tests must be reserved for those who absolutely need it and they believe they are far less of the vectors than those are about to become or are currently symptomatic but yesEven in globally kids for example under 9 are not getting it But theres a lot of concern that they are still virus vectors These are the reasons you should not be flying I am very nervous about a mass travel of college students forced to travel home from their colleges who never get sick but could be viral vectors|0 yeah very true u said evil eyes didnt work I wanted to show my take I think blank face and eyes is eerie and makes you remember|0 Agreed|1 But the reexposure flareup only occurs when antibodies drop from postinfection levels Theres a window that doesnt open for several years as I understand it where the levels are too low to obliterate the virus immediately but also high enough to trigger an overreaction to a modest infection|0 Medical bulletin number 5 February 4th 2020The two Chinese citizens from Wuhan city that tested positive for the new coronavirus currently hospitalized at the National Institute for Infectious Diseases in the last hours have had an aggravation of clinical conditions due to respiratory failure as in other similar cases reported so farTherefore respiratory support in the intensive therapy unit was neededThe patients are monitored continuously and undergo all treatments including experimental antiviral drugsThe current clinical conditions are compromised but stationary the prognosis is being reservedTo date 26 patients have been discharged after negative test resultsAt the moment 11 symptomatic patients coming from areas of China affected by the epidemic are hospitalized All were tested for the new coronavirus but are not yet confirmedAs for the 20 asymptomatic people who have had contact with the positive Chinese couple they continue to be under observation at the InstituteThey are all in good general condition and their health is of no concern right nowAll people of Chinese nationality currently hosted at the Institute are receiving great attention from the Institute communityAll of them are served meals typical of their Chinese culture and are assisted by voluntary mediators who are involved in facilitating communicationsTheir permanence in the health facility follows the protocol that the hospital is used to ensure for all its patientsIn the event of changes in the clinical picture immediate updates will be given|1 Its all in Hindsight No possibility at all|0 People with chronic illness and health issues warned us about this People cant get their surgeries or tests without fear of infection Some people dont have the immune or respiratory system for this|0 not far enough when everyone starts leaving the city and surrounding Burroughs parents in deer park have it in their mind to take a boat out yeah them and everyone else good luck|1 Basic reproduction numberIn epidemiology the basic reproduction number sometimes called basic reproductive ratio or incorrectly basic reproductive rate and denoted R0 pronounced R nought or R zero of an infection can be thought of as the expected number of cases directly generated by one case in a population where all individuals are susceptible to infection The definition describes the state where no other individuals are infected or immunized naturally or through vaccination Some definitions such as that of the Australian Department of Health add absence of any deliberate intervention in disease transmission The basic reproduction number is not to be confused with the effective reproduction number R which is the number of cases generated in the current state of a population which does not have to be the uninfected state PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 a lot of research that goes into these pay walled journals is funded by public grantsit should all be open access really|0 They are gonna purposely create faulty tests|0 From a comment in another threadYoung people arent immune to this virus theyre just much less likely to die from itAge groups and mortality CFR from the China CDC n44672 study 09 0 1019 02 1 person 2029 02 7 people 3039 02 18 people 4049 04 38 people 5059 13 130 people 6069 36 309 people 7079 80 312 people 80 148 208 people Overall CFR 23|0 Possibly the most subtle flex Ive ever seen You can just say youre pretty healthy|1 We authorise all members first because unfortunately there were some trolls when we first started but Ill approve you now|0 To be fair Im asking myself should I leave my house for groceries right now so idk|1 Why would you just post the question without answering it Its clearly rhetorical|1 This isnt a good idea The smaller towns surrounding these types of areas upstate may not be able to handle a virus outbreak At least this is true for my home state of Utah|1 The area under the curve is equal in both scenarios which implies that we can gain a lot by simply slowing down the rate of infection Given that the peak of the curve is just 2x above capacity this feels like a doable high impact interventionThe reality is with uncontrolled spread the peak is going to be 20 50x above capacity and spreading it out more is merely going to bring it down to 5 10x above capacity for a whole year or more The highest impact intervention we have now is to reduce the peak not delay it If we delay without reducing everyone is gonna have a lot worse of a time than this pretty graph implies|1 And thats the thing While the infected in China may soon drop due to harsh quarantines outbreaks in the US are just beginning|0 So I read the study they are citing and not once is the US mentioned I might be missing something I did read that every country listed has dropped the rate since 1990 which is great news but again America wasnt even mentioned They took into account cancer and accidents in their burden accounts which is hardly manufactured by where you live Again I could be missing something but this hardly proves more than an opinion when you read the study cited|0 No way those stats are that accurate Better looking at South Korea|1 I was told of a confirmed case at a local hospital in CA by someone from the hospital who saw the confirming paperwork Patient was confirmed and transferred If the patient was counted among the CA sick no mention was made of himher coming from my area Im inclined to think theres more than that person|0 In Phoenix AZ Walmart nearly emptied of groceries and supplies Everyone is scared and starting to avoid crowds Especially everyone at my job we are doing work from home in about a week but everyone is a bit scared for the future and if we are going to experience lockdown soonx200BPeople are literally waiting HOURS for the toilet paper to be restocked All the aisles are empty nearly Very eerie|0 Really That sounds very odd Got anything for me to read about it|0 Sims is on sale That will suck hours out of your day|0 I think thats peoples misunderstanding of that message That was only ever meant to refer to actual particulate masks and was meant more as a guideline for maximizing effectiveness in a shortageIf you have 200 people of which 50 are sick and you have 50 masks the best way is to mask the sick Mask one sick guy and you potentially stop multiple people from getting infected Mask one healthy guy and youve potentially stopped one guy from getting sickTheres a lot of people saying a lot of shit about masks but the only legit things Im aware of as far as restricting wearing them has to do with trying to use them in the best way with limited supply If youre at a hospital with a broken arm and they ask you not to use a mask so the next guy with a cough can use a mask this is what they mean It may suck because you are more important to you than everyone else is but from a healthcare and public standpoint the one they are supposed to prioritize more people stand to be protected by masking the sick Likewise if you are buying masks dont buy as many as you can and mask everyone Buy a reasonable amount save them Wear them when you or yours are exposed to known infection areascarriers or wear them anytime around people when you are yours are symptomatic This prioritizes and means people will hoard lessThe disconnect is that people are taking these guidelines that are meant to address the big picture and are trying to make sense of them from the individual level Using the masks to protect yourself is normal natural and understandable Using the masks for the sick leaves us feeling less secure and maybe even gets us sick but may help stop the spread on the larger scale protecting more of the herd I dont think theres a right answer just laws of nature clashing as we each and society as a whole struggle to balance individual needs and needs of the pack so to speak|0 Not the same video and no one is chanting in this video I would say this is a balance of both views Some people with cabin fever wanting to let out frustration and also some people legit going insane because there are more than likely dead friends and loved ones trapped Why is everyone so damn extreme with their views|0 I would think this leaves no choice for Trudeau but to act now We will see|0 Im lucky enough that my parents dont have this mentality but I would be deeply hurt and angry if they did something so selfishLike dont risk your life for nothing You arent the only people affected if something happens to you|0 I am unfortunately the Grand Poobah of AnxietyRight now as in NOW I am having a panic attackThis is a live demonstration of what is working and what isntThis works for me now1 Remembering you create your own reality by your thoughts 2 exercising lifting weights to fend off panic3 Texting friends for support Each personality of friend reacts a different way You can change the channel so to speak by texting another if that particular one isnt helping4 a picture of a greek orthodox christ on my other monitor5 looking out at the sunny day whilst working6 Being mindful or wise when discussing with individuals Who is my audience Will they think Im just batshit crazy or do they need advice on prepping7 Trying to concentrate whats in my control and what isnt if it isnt worrying about it will consume my human btus must keep energy up for immune system Not worryanxiety movie that is playing in my head8 Exercise bands resistance can stand on them pull them up for a fake weight lift at my desk9 Sitting on a giant stupid looking exercise ball while I work When anxious bounce10 7cupscomhttps7cupscom there are volunteers there that will listen to you for free they are trained psychologically but not professionals If you need the next level you can talk all you want to a psych for 1 month for 15011 Going to the water cooler keep hydrated12 Gyuoto monks meditating and throat chanting if you believe in reincarnation it feels familiar to me A sense of peace security httpsyoutubeL42AnSAdzXwhttpsyoutubeL42AnSAdzXw if it scares you dont listen to it It makes me feel good13 Russian orthodox singers singing on youtube Very etheral httpsyoutube8FTu03voSGohttpsyoutube8FTu03voSGo14 Any songs by the young english lads of Libera on youtube httpsyoutube7pcLG0ZdZ2Ihttpsyoutube7pcLG0ZdZ2I|1 Yeah I always gave this some credit spent maybe 2 h a day on reddit and news in the last month searching for data|1 Well this was a good talk then |1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ok the last source literally has holistic in the name of the website almost synonymous with alternative medicine And it I wouldnt say thats a reliable source|1 My god you people are delusional|1 The problem with those laws is it discourages people from getting tested If they arent tested they cant knowingly have the virus Wait this sounds familiar|0 So 25 of all cases last longer than 177 days 14 days is nowhere near enough Your data is good your interpretation of it is terrible|0 There is so little known about this virus I dont understand the confidence in this herd immunity approach We need much more data and understanding of the virus aka time before jumping in the deep end|0 Yeah I would say thats probably pretty unlucky Unfortunately people dying is the tragic reality of an outbreak like this There is no weird conspiracy here it is no secret that the health infrastructure there is under enormous strain It is also no secret that Chinese citizens do not have the same freedoms as western nations|0 Cool My friend from Minnesota was at that concert I have not seen my friend since and dont plan to for at least 14 days after he comes back|1 Anything that can be done to slow down its spread is valuable The longer countries have to prepare and stockpile supplies and the more we know about the virus before we have to deal with it the better|1 I dont think he had registered buissness and was planning to pay taxes on the profit he made Wouldnt it make the seizure of goods absolutely legal|1 E3 is cancelled because it no longer stands for what it used to This has nothign to do with coronavirus its a big mess and failture and it only show gaming to public for what exactly isnt Egirls stupid streamers and toys|0 Half effective actually|1 hope everybody go through this hard situation to protect yourself and your family Except for the life need please dont go outside and use hand soap to wash your hand in frequent I am living in Wuhan of China I know it is very scared especially for the old man beyond 50 years ol I am living in China now for medical mask and any products for the COVID19 If you need the mask please try SXflashcard com we are an old website|1 Id like to point out that in many places around the country hospitals are already full or close to it They have been for quite some time due to a very active coldflu season And healthcare professionals are already stressed as a result So the coronavirus isnt going to stress a healthcare system in optimal condition Its about to stress a healthcare system already in a little disarray Im not going to go as far and say were the next Iran but I wouldnt be surprised if were the next Italy but on a much larger scale|1 Its a conspiracy|0 PSA about any long illness any long recuperation from surgery or injury where you are bedridden for more than a few days Deep vein thrombosis can for in one of the large leg veins have no symptoms or only a vague feeling of tightness or swelling in a leg and you dont notice it because you have 1000 other problems that caused you to be bedridden in the first place and youre not really using your leg muscles When one of the blood clots breaks off though it travels through to the lungs where it lodges and blocks blood flow to get oxygenThis sound exactly like my greatuncle a few years ago had surgery had a rough recovery but was getting better was walking down the hallway in the hospital the day he was supposed to be discharged and dropped dead|0 What did I miss about whole foods|0 Caught on after the second reported case in Wuhan sometime around early December Its been a roller coaster for sure |1 Yeah no shit They think snorting rhino horns makes your PP bigger|0 Ok partially correct lol All private and public K12 closed My son is in preschool but theyre attached to a private K8 and closing too|1 Hey count your blessings just like youre doing You are alive and so is your wife and child The worst has now passed|1 Lets all cheer the scientific community for stepping up to the task Science is awesome|1 Faker is a genuinely good dude like all the time|1 Sounds like youre at UH|1 Actually this could be just as bad Spanish flu if countries dont take action to slow down the spread Look at Italy for instance A plague scenario is unlikely though|0 As long as youre actively scrubbing your hands for 30 seconds I know for a fact the ABCs including the ending line should take you about 30 to 31 seconds to sing at normal pace ring around the rosie only took me about 11 seconds to sing at normal pace So youd likely have to sing it 3x to get to 30 seconds|1 The biggest problem is how do you convince your employer to let you work from home before a ton of cases show up If you have to wait until a bunch of people start dying in your community to convince your employer to let you work from home it may very well be too lateStocking up wont do much if you still have to go to an office everyday and share recirculated air with a couple hundred other peopleThen there are people who work at places like fast food restaurants who have to come in contact with tons of people every day and there is no possible option of working from home There is simply no way a fast food restaurant is going to let their employees wear mask and goggles at work and scare the customers|0 Pneumonia causes inflammation of the lung tissue which can lead to scarring This hardens the tissue and reduces lung function and can make you more susceptible to other lung disorders ARDs or respiratory failure for example The pus and other fluids that builds up in your lungs can form abscesses which may cause sepsis Im not a doctor though so you should go look it up yourself|0 Arent birds part of the cyclic nature of flu No why on earth would they be|0 Yes very very important that we slow the spread of the infection I wasnt familiar with those numbers but they sound scaryIf we slow the spread it might be the case that while an individual community could become overloaded other communities could still have availability So transfers to communities that havent been hit yet or have already started recovering could be possibleIf it continues to spread this is definitely the kind of thing that is going to require all of us to work together to solve problems|1 The official holiday only starts on the eve of the festival 123 this year Of course some companies do allow people to leave a few days earlier Most of my family and friends leave early However most of the people I know are white collar workers so Im not sure about how it works for the majority of blue collar workers|1 Yeah hes also gone|1 I agree|1 They need eye protection and some actual respirators not surgeons masks hope they realize that soon|0 Heres a sneak peek of rpopping using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrpoppingtopsorttoptyear of the year1 If this isnt everyone in this subreddithttpsiredditaa9o02ebkyn21jpg 67 commentshttpsnpredditcomrpoppingcommentsb4q0snifthisisnteveryoneinthissubreddit 2 My girlfriend couldnt be more excitedhttpsvreddita7s4yr37v5f41 265 commentshttpsnpredditcomrpoppingcommentsezfdshmygirlfriendcouldntbemoreexcited 3 Fat pop inside earhttpsvredditmrqm4bhbvu341 281 commentshttpsnpredditcomrpoppingcommentse8v5y7fatpopinsideearIm a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|1 theyre now doing all the same things ppl in Wuhan were doing online rave parties coming real soon|1 Exactly It was either pure arrogance or negligence and unfortunately its our first responders who are having to pay the price which is so wrong|0 In a Morgan Freeman voice|1 I think smartass comments like these made over the phone arent helpful in any way to the people doing their job They dont set out the rules but you damn bet they have to follow them no matter how ridiculous they areBackhanded comments arent even smart dude you could easily answer with planet earth and it would be as relevant as just saying the UK If youve been in Stornoway since the virus hit the UK i would doubt and the NHS would doubt your infected|0 In the USA Where a simple medical treatment can bankrupt a family if not covered by decent insurance There are enough people scared to seek medical help Do you really they will go see their GP with only mild symptoms like coughing and fever It merely needs a few people hell CV is even asymptomatic to get the spread going Id say we all need to thank China if they can contain it For now at least it seems we can track the infections and quarantine them Although Japan and Singapore already have cases where they cannot identify how the infection happenedFree press will not help containing this on the contrary I would suspect it would cause a panic reaction As shown in Hong Kong where apparently it is now profitable to perform heists for fucking toilet paperhttpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonglawandcrimearticle3050907armedgangstealshk1000toiletpapercoronavirus|0 M8 u better bet it will happen Europe south America Yall are next|1 This whole subreddit currently looks akin to an antivaxxer movementFew believe us and they think our claims are unfoundedWhen logic suddenly collapses under their feet I wonder how theyll react|0 It used to be when everyone smoked ate totally shitty diets and worked grueling physical jobs all day Three generations ago people would retire at 60 and be dead in 10 years especially working class males Its now late middle age People live to their 80s commonly 70 is the new 60|0 But being a long distance runner will improve your immune function|1 Im 20 west I feel ya friend good luck|1 yep its a real pity we live in this woke age whereby even basic facts are seen as racism I imagine thats why Ive been downvoted Facts are facts and whether this came from the wet markets or the biochemical lab it did originate in ChinaI actually hold a lot of sympathy for Chinese expats right now theyre likely to receive a torrent of abuse and you cant tar everyone with the same brush|0 Hope soJust about to finish my winter seasonal work and moving to Vancouver for the summer no guarantee the job offers Ive got on the table will still be around by the time the start dates come around |1 Is Cheltenham more significant than the thousands of football matches and concerts that are played out every day|1 It should be noted most of the German patients have been detected through contact tracing and thus are early in the course of their illness It is not impossible that some will worsen|0 damn cold resistance 1 and 2 AND ENVIRONMENTAL HARDENING truly i can hear the music now|1 Youd be really bad at a yo mamma or a break dancing battle|0 The main reason is because they know if normal people buy them the health workers will have none left If the health workers fall sickwellgood luck sick peopleYes but if normal people dont use masks way more sick people will flood the hospitals|0 As Ive just been reading massive inflammation is caused by this thing Inflammation is no joke It can cause myriad health disorders even when its just chronic inflammation without a known cause Throw a novel virus into the mix some air pollution that inflames the tissues all on its own some latent systemic disorder that would have emerged in 510 years and a very exhausted patient could have a nasty sudden downturn I say all this as a chronic inflammation sufferer myself its nothing to take lightly|0 It takes 12 days for distancing measures to take effect cant speak for coastal states but I think much of the US will be spared the worst of this|0 Theyre not At least where I am in the US Havent activated DMAT or Medical Reserve Corps The National Guard has been activated but I havent seen any reports of them actually doing anything Ive worked in medicine for 10 years left for an office job 6 months ago All of my certifications are still valid Im just waiting to see how bad it get locally before I make a decision if I should go back to patient care A lot of Hospital administratorsleadership have left us under prepared The Ebola scare should have been a wake up call The hospital I was working in at the time more or less laughed at suggestions that would have helped prepare for and mitigate the shitshow weve found ourselves in|1 ONE OTHER NOTE A lot of people are mentioning house this is just a drop in the bucket or how his large wealth lessens the value of the amount that he has donated One thing to keep in mind is that as you might see if you read to about the middle of the article Fakers team SKT T1 is donating ALL streaming profits to combat the spread OF the coronavirus This is could literally amount to hundreds of hundreds of dollars especially when you keep in mind the ESports org had more than just a Leage of Legends teamI think we should really be appreciative of thisAlso I dont know how to edited my post so if anyone knows please teach me the way so more people can see this|1 That is only because we dont have enough tests countries that have gotten through this without large loss of life tested constantly you cant fight a virus blind to where it is and how many have it WHO has said anyone with even mild symptoms should be tested and those who have been in contact with someone positive on top of it Only two weeks ago that was the only criteria that would get you tested period Now they are ignoring it BECAUSE WE STILL DONT HAVE ENOUGH TESTS|1 I have a friend in Seattle that checks all the boxes for COVID19 symptoms but the hospital wont test him They say regardless of if he has it or not he should stay home and rest so no need to test So the numbers are never going to be accurate|0 What a sad and insightful look into our societyno one should listen to a celebrity Maybe people should listen to experts instead|0 People just want to whine about having to pay what the market demandsIt happens everywhere and they only learn their lesson shortly thereafter they enact dumb economic restrictions This sub is full of the free healthcare types heads up to those people youre paying just as much as we are in the states just through your taxes and countries debt not yours If you want cheap and really good healthcare ditch any form of involvement by government and dont buy bottom dollar Itll be both clean and effective after the market recovers from government involvement After all its expensive in the states due to insurance laws not the actual cost|1 Nothing to argue either there are sources to back your hypothesis or there are not|1 Even with lockdown the number of cases per day wont peak for at least another two weeks and deaths wont peak for another week laterWhen Wuhan locked down they were at 800 cases and 25 deaths They didnt reach Italys current level for another 6 or 7 days Since coronavirus doubles approximately every 6 days we can probably expect Italys total case and death count to be roughly double that of Wuhan|0 I apologizeI just checked the Johns Hopkins datahttpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 and I get 6706 deaths from 174995 cases or 38 as a current global average While I was there I noted that the CFR in Italy is 73 Then I recalled this quote Globally about 34 percent of reported COVID19 cases have died By comparison seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1 percent of those infected WHO DirectorGeneral Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a press briefing|0 The Grasshopper Lies Heavy is a fictional book|0 WHO and CCP see no pandemic so must not be real|0 Your entire post history is along the lines of a solid 57 inches pornstars better watch out when this bad boy gets flying around dont think ive ever seen a girl begging me for it better up my game just call them sheep and everything they say respond BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHso productive you have in your pockets as much change as possible so that homeless people know I have it and they still aint getting it dying your hair a bright color is just for attention bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh insert dem sheep noisesyou get where this is going Just go back to your lathe and let the rest of us be brainwashed sheep in peace|1 Dont joke with that Im supposed to fly with those assholes tomorrow|0 My son still remembers the time when there was no time|0 They also recommended large community events to be cancelled Im glad theyre doing this|1 One person infected 21 people This chart shows which of those people were in contact with the others near them stick figures and where they returned to arrows to country There are different groups because not everyone lived in close quarters but anyone infected can spread it to their group The first guy went home and was diagnosed the earliest dates next to people Even though he wasnt diagnosed until he left others were still contaminated and this is a chart to show how people can return to their country with a disease If this is still confusing you how would you illustrate this situation to help others understand|0 Genuine question Had he chosen to selfquarantine who wouldve carried the cost of that or the lost income because of thatAs I understand your system this wouldve been his personal problem Am I missing something or was there really an economic maybe even existential depending on his finances and job situation incentive for him to NOT quarantine himself|0 So is May 29th a bad time to go to Vancouver from Ireland Ive been absolutely miserable and depressed and this trip was the one thing keeping me going|0 That is one nasty bastard Its worse than this woman who told me she only washes her hands when she takes a shower That the germs build her immune system I stayed so far away from her|0 Daughter of a close friend of mine was studying in Montpellier France this semester Last week family decided to bring her home Soonest flight they could get her on leaves tomorrow However today the flight from Montpellier to Paris was cancelled Daughter now needs to attempt to take a couple trains across France to get to the airport No one can tell her if she can even travel tomorrow The family is staying as positive as they can but I can tell this is wearing on them|1 You actually made me lol take my poor |0 Damn pollution levels are way down atm|0 Thats horrible Stay safe and I hope the same for every other person whos possibly come into contact with this virus|1 OPs title is misleading Theyre not looking to 3D print ventilators theyre looking to open source design an inexpensive and get it manufactured and bypass the medical devices industry|0 First off user name checks out Second its the same partythrough mentality folks have for storms Its the 504 way and sometimes it is really really foolish But aint nobody gonna listen|0 Ive not seen anyone attacking the USA|1 Haha I find it funny that I get down voted by right wingers here and down voted by left winger at rCanada I cant win|1 Why do I feel like this is going to be an episode of Greys Anatomy next season|1 Whoa hey at least we forecasters are good for a day or two|1 I hate how the news is lying to people by saying that mask wont help you and to not wear them Like we are to dumb to realize that all the people taking care of the patients have mask|0 I havent watched SpiderMan but I know he used a well Im something of a linguist myself in boondock saints is that his catch phrase|1 but that would empower us peasants to be proactive in our personal lives Its far more profitable to force us into the position of sitting ducks|1 I completely agree with your comment about there power over Pharmaceuticals I really hope not only America but many of these other countries take it to heart that no one should be depending on to someone else for their citizens protection and health Every country needs to at least be independent enough to take care of his peopleI also agree with your sentiment that denial of necessary medical needs would most certainly be an act of War I believe that when people make a mistake they should own up to it and for China to try and put off blame and then try to deny necessary medical equipment would most certainly not go over well|0 Yes all clusters are unique in relation to Patient 1 and the next levels of infections Up until Feb 17 as seen on the chart linked it could be said that cases in South Korea was not on the rise Italy wasnt even in the running till Feb 20 Bar Chart Racehttpspublicflourishstudiovisualisation1438123News is news just saying to not get too complacent too soon|1 Check the Andrew Marr show about an hour in He denies that they are using herd immunity then later on says that the governments approach is subject to some scientific debateAFAIK the only credible scientific debate taking place is will the herd immunity apporach work or notThey are flying this one by the seat of their pants|0 Yes all celebs are more removed from reality and less educated than the general populace Every single one s|1 Not saying I know anything but I would be talking to your landlord right now You may have some protections as well and for Gods sake who would be evil enough to evict someone in a time like this|0 If you dont believe the government has your best interests in mind in terms of keeping you alive because of a basic sense of humanity then believe it because very rich people will lose a huge amount of money if the economy falters Watch out you dont go sailing and fall off the edge of the Earth lol|1 are you over the age of 50 Or do you have other preexisting medical conditions If neither of those are true you should be fine|1 They arent forcing people to work from home Clearly if you cant work from home you wont be This is to convince companies who have employees that CAN work from home to have them do so This will reduce face to face interactions but not eliminate them The goal here is to slow the spread not stop it|1 You should not trust Chinas numbers its all made up|0 Hahahahaha No but serhahahahahahahahaa Oh ok I just cant|1 Thats pretty grim Early on I was caught up on the mortality rate of the virus but now what scares me more is the rate of hospitalization and how many people need critical care I think a lot of people forget that when hospitals and ICUs are overrun by COVID19 patients then a wide range of other treatable conditions can and will become fatal as well Then the virus is just one of MANY things causing widespread loss of life|0 Jealous I wish I was living in Singapore right now|0 Corporations ARE people US Supreme Court|1 No problem at all mate Inform yourself and dont panic cheers|0 Vote every single one out Start writing letters and making phone calls that you are paying attention and not liking what you are seeing|0 She hates America Wow I didnt know Ariana was actually based Lol Im just kidding but thats the reply your sensationalist comment deserves anyway|1 If you want to feel better about the situation in the US do some research on how the UK plans to deal with Covid Now THATS some scary shit|0 My best friend works for EBSCO at their Ipswich headquarters As a healthcare worker I appreciate this thorough reference|1 I dont think its so much about your risk category so much as it is the severity of your symptoms For example regardless of whether youre a healthy young person or a senior if you have significant trouble breathing its absolutely reasonable to contact a medical professional albeit ideally over the phone first and not straight to the ER if possible|1 Didnt SARS vaccine caused cytokine storm when the tested animal got infected with other strains|0 Im 35 hours away from Toronto Im trying to be optimistic|1 The fact that there arent enough test out there alone is going to doom us|0 Yep older people should be more likely to be former smokers though right|1 The free market will take care of us s|1 China has very poor standard of living compared to the US overall they show the fancy city and then terrible conditions for the rest of the population|0 Banks are an important vector for passing illness It makes sense to bundle them up right along with the doctors and nurses|0 And states dependent on revenue from tobacco taxes and tobacco settlement money and the pharma industry profiting from tobacco cessation products and treatments for smoking illnesses and the insurance industry looking to ban smoking outright and virtuesignalling politicians looking to cash in on the sympathetic media craze of the dayOne thing seems clear none of it was apparently motivated by an actual proven danger to users of nicotineonly JUULs|0 So we are getting close to eating the rich now right|1 So your answer is this will be difficult Lets do fuck all and pray for the best instead|1 As the general public would you guys feel comfortable being looked after or a relative being looked after as long as youre not critically ill by a vet or vet nurse Id be comfortable being looked after by traffic wardens if it meant being looked after at all This is a great idea|1 I think its a bit early to claim something like this|1 No shit sherlock Cant believe our governments are failing us all We need extreme action before the virus is established Not this bullshit of doing fuck all until its too late its all about money until its too late|0 I think they are hiding the fact that it is unstoppable And I believe it is still accelerating at an exponential rate of infection|0 It doesnt help that flu season is in full effect here I was bed ridden for a the first week of 2020 If I had coronavirus and survived it I might not even have known to go to the hospital and just went back to my life once it finally passed|1 Plenty of local cases in the 14 cluster were asymptomatic but tested positive|1 Happy to see I wasnt the only one lol|1 The sweet breath of fresh infected air|1 Every Italian legally must have a balcony to sing or shout from|1 Outside of panicked shopping almost everyone is laughing it off Even the shoppers that are flooding my store are laughing at how silly they must look buying us out Denial mode will end sometime this week I reckon KentuckyTennessee border by Clarksville|1 Places where people live but where pretty much nothing else seems to happen This isnt the case in a lot of places Where I grew up this was not at all the case And my town isnt exactly unique either Ive seen it plenty inside and outside the state in the Northeast Rich people dont like their suburbs to be lackluster|1 Ill take positive look Lol|1 Nice to know the sex trafficking industry profits are going to a good cause|1 Janitors and dishwashers are getting this as well|1 Their incompetence is classified|0 My son was ill persistent 103 fever flulike symptoms in mid January and tested negative for the flu His doctor was baffled Said it may be a coronavirus Took him a couple of weeks to recover Makes me wonder|0 Yep my parents are technically Gen X but have 100 bought into Boomer mentality Growing up with them was painful|0 In the 1950s 60s doctors used alcohol vapor for patients with asthma thinning mucus even pulmonary edema Is COVID19 consistent with respiratory symptoms of those sortshttpswwwahajournalsorgdoipdf10116101CIR53363 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2081157Yet on the same idea longterm use of drinking alcohol causes heart liver and lung disease So as a temporary solution would it be feasible and has there been any testing on this idea in regards to the COVID19|1 uFeniksGaming you were so keen to be a mod but the new queue looks like shite cmon lad|1 This is sad you honestly do not deserve to live in America there are hundreds upon hundreds of millions that would give their right eye to live as a low income poor ass American You just dont know how good you have it Try traveling around the world see what is really out there in form of a government caring for you The fuck you want the government to wipe your ass Maybe the government could coddle your ball sack while you shit If your lucky you can suckle one her teets You are whats wrong with in the American dream you cannot pull your own you do not belong here I absolutely encourage you to get the fuck out Smh|0 Sorry for your loss Honestly cant imagine what youre going through and hope me or anybody close to me doesnt have to find out anytime soon Stay strong man|1 Sorry looks like I hit a nerve|1 NO TOUCHING|0 a couple of early stories out of Wuhan said they started having a lot of deaths in September For sure a government doesnt wreck its economy and quarantine 50 million people for something that had only killed 32 people in the last 2 weeks|0 Finally and surprisingly a good speech supporting our healthcare system|1 Yeah thats why I was thinking Twitter or someone whos used to big connection numbers|1 And thats before lockdown measures encounter1 The 2nd Ammendment2 Fanatical followers of a certain president3 Evangelical end of times cults4 The MasonDixon line|1 Thank you Ill be calling them in the morning to see about this|0 That would be very grim and sounds like the plot of a horror film sudden heart failure as symptom|0 Dont think C19 cares about neutrality theyre not storing any in Swiss banks Hope things get better soon enough|1 Is this really news worthy He wipes his ass with more than every week|0 You are awesome Yes I shall do these things I just wrote every infectious disease expert I could find that Im connected to on Linked in some with NIH others in China CDC about sharing CT scans of already diagnosed patients so facilities with no working Corona diagnosis kits can work quickly without having to wait for results Hopefully my small voice will have some positive affect|1 8M is probably on the low endIts estimated up to 60 will contract corona at least one and some will become infected multiple times By June there will be millions dead and tens of millions infected in the US aloneThe recent epidemiology assessment predicts 15M dead worldwide as the best case scenario and give the US and some other countries ignoring this were likely headed to a worst case scenario of 100M dead worldwide Dont forget its just the first wave of the virus you have to survive You have to survive reinfection food shortages long term electrical and heating disruptions riots and looting as famine and homelessness increase etc etc Were just at the tip of a massive iceberg It will be years maybe before things get better|0 Copypaste for anyone stuck behind a paywall Seems like good news for asthma sufferers though just a small sample sizeAn approximately 11 ratio of male 507 and female COVID19 patients was found with an overall median age of 570years All patients were communityacquired cases Fever 917 cough 750 fatigue 750 and gastrointestinal symptoms 396 were the most common clinical manifestations whereas hypertension 300 and diabetes mellitus 121 were the most common comorbidities Drug hypersensitivity 114 and urticaria 14 were selfreported by several patients Asthma or other allergic diseases were not reported by any of the patients Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease COPD 14 patients and current smokers 14 were rare Bilateral groundglass or patchy opacity 896 was the most common sign of radiological finding Lymphopenia 754 and eosinopenia 529 were observed in most patients Blood eosinophil counts correlate positively with lymphocyte counts in severe r486 P001 and nonsevere r469 P001 patients after hospital admission Significantly higher levels of Ddimer Creactive protein and procalcitonin were associated with severe patients compared to nonsevere patients all P001 |0 This is not true Taiwan Hong Kong Singapore off the top of my head took measure to screen and test vigorously from the beginning Consequently they also have shit under control TBF these countries went through SARS so politically its a much easier lift|0 20 of people who have the virus require hospitalization I repeat 20 of people who have the virus require hospitalizationdo you have any idea of the pressure that is going to put on our health care system and doctors and nurses when this epidemic peaks I suggest you go do a bit of research|1 Wait Where is the actual article where the Mayor says this It seems like the website says 4 more days so it is still going Cant the racers race without any participantsEdit not participants Racers but lacking audiences|1 I often wonder if you could push that 102 level like maybe 104 Kinda like chemo hope to burn it out before you burn out|1 Well said Thank you|1 Do the goverment have the capacity testing everyone people with flu in every airportChina have bottleneck in confirming this virus before right|0 What the current administration whos known since at least December this was coming and 4 months later dont have close to enough tests In South Korea theyre testing 10000 people a day here in the United States you cant get tested if you went into the doctor and tried|1 Since I cant fight this with common sense Ill fight it with facts 1 Italy doesnt have an official minimum wage but thats mostly determined by unions Its usually 850 a month for agriculture httpscheckinpricecomaverageminimumsalaryinromeitaly httpwwwsalaryexplorercomsalarysurveyphploc105loctype1job33jobtype12 Young people are still at risk Just because the risk of dying from COVID19 isnt above 10 does not mean people shouldnt be worried about going to work No matter what age you can still get sick Just because its not fatal for you does not mean its not an issue Heres an example for China Almost 10 of cases are people in their 20s httpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactors3 Italy already has one of the highest retirement ages in Europe so Im not sure what reputation youre talking about httpswwwetkfienthepensionsysteminternationalcomparisonretirementagesIm not suggesting closing Italys economy but something must be done to assure these workers their safety will not be disregardedItalian people are still very at risk Just because theyre young and have decent immune systems doesnt change the fact theyre at risk|0 Idk but luckily China uses Alipay and wechat pay a lot more than other countries most people have an account so they pay with taht anyways|1 Nice Thats been my figure as well 45 mortality in China absolutely no clue everywhere else|1 I just wish I knew now that me and my family and my friends will stay alive and make it through I can handle sitting in my apartment for 3 months I just dont want to lose the people I love|1 that sucks man I hope she makes it back soon|1 Interesting how millions of people were quarantined and the stock market lost trillions in value because of something less severe than the flu|0 Where in the fucking forest in the phillapenes Lmao Rent a car and go to your family|1 Im so sick of the phrase making it political What Trump is doing is just as bad as China silencing the whistleblowers This is supposed to be our leader and our advocate and hes lying and downplaying the issue to save his dwindling chance for reelection He is controlling the flow of information and inhibiting our ability to test to help his political campaign but me not liking that is making it about politics You isolated weeks ago When Trump said it was a cold and it would disappear like a miracle one day We isolated last week when instructed to do so but as you can see many are not They cite the presidents comments democratic hoax and the urging of his mouthpieces like Nunes who are going on tv urging people to go out to bars His behavior continues to be reckless and people WILL DIE preventable deaths because they and their neighbors follow the recommendations made by GOP politicians over Anthony Fauci If youre upset this is being made political then why doesnt it bother you that Fox News has interviews encouraging people to ignore FauciCDC recommendations This is movie villain level diabolical and we should be outraged These are the moments when the president has a duty to the nation to get over himself and do whats right But instead WE have to keep quiet about his incompetence because the man cant be held accountable for ANYTHING for some reason He literally said he could shoot someone and not be held responsible and your comments are proof that that is absolutely true Presidents are measured on how they handle crisis and I dont see why Trump is exempt from that|0 This is the main reason by far but also governments dont want headlines like X famous person dies of Coronavirus because there werent enough tests|0 Or you could just say Thanks for all your hard work As an idea you might want to check out worldometers for some ideas to make this a little appealing|1 In 6 months there wont be any work to return to once the whole nation collapses Problem will be solved|0 Yes you are correct Singapore currently has 130 but they did a great job or containment But there is a chance the warmer weather suppressed it there For some reason they didnt follow the IranSouth KoreaItaly trajectory and I personally dont think it was just the reactive measures There was very limited community spread|1 Cool story bro|1 Well I am glad they are putting out some information Ive an idea that most North Koreans will not see the video and still others will wonder about where they can score her outfit It is not dictator gray|1 wow most ridiculous take Ive seen in this whole messPerhaps they should spend more time communicating that the coronavirus may be just another virus broadly comparable in risk to a bad seasonal influenza or at worst the 1918 influenza pandemic that will circulate in human populations for a number of yearsCool cool NBD folks just might be another pandemic like the one that killed 10s of millions in the 20th century|0 This is why they need to track all people who do the self assessment register them as a probable case if it is likely they have and count them under a separate list from the confirmed positive by testing This wont give us a completely accurate idea of all the cases out there but having a best guess estimate of how widespread it is will certainly be useful in encouraging people to take extra precautions and realize how big of a threat this actually isIf there are an addition 10000 probably cases seeing that data will really help wake people up I rather assume 10000 probably threw self assessment the condirmed positive than have people walking around thinking we only have 200 cases and its no big deal|1 The description is identical to cytokine storm It sounds like this is referring to dangers during the course of the infection not postinfectionAlso cytokine storm is almost prototypically a side effect of a pandemic flu so|0 Yep putting food on the table and keeping a roof over your head while being eminently aware of the risks to yourself and others is selfish Do you really think anyone would keep working in these conditions if they could afford not to Or is this an Imfinesokillthepoor kind of selfish on your part|0 Im aware of this The expert claiming a peak in 10 days in China is Zhong Nanshan the hero of the SARS epidemic The conflicting narratives are troubling The cynical me thinks numbers will go down in 10 days only because they are making them go down These are masters of controlling impressions and narrativesand they have all the tools for ithttpswwwthestarcommynewsregional20200129wuhanvirusoutbreakmayreachpeakinaweekorabout10dayssaysexpert|0 I had to sit with my 80 year old mother and read each word of the article Carefully reviewed each graph and slide and urged her to stay home and self quarantine now She pretty much managed to get it across to my 80 year old dad Now both have been sharing the article and the importance of practicing safe social distancing and quarantine now to their friends and family It wasnt an easy task as I heard every objection and rebuttal and everything else that theyve seen and heard on TV one particular news channel that said nothing to worry about I had to produce CDC mortality rate by age etc They are now going to make the effort to stay home for at least the next two weeks|1 Thank you for the post|1 Itll be a mixture of things One would be testosteorne is higher in menTestosterone provides an immune dampening effect which is why women have higher rates of autoimmune diseasesSo womens immune systems will be much more robust and able to be prepared for the severity of the virus|1 you got a control key stuck it sounds like ctrls is the save hotkey unplug your keyboard air dust and press all the keys a few times and you should be good to go|1 sure but theres definitely more good things about america than a country like indiai also dont see americans act like they are immortal|1 About 50 of South Koreas population is clustered around Seoul I assume this was a major factor in easing the logistical challenge of mass testing Italys population is far more distributed|1 So maybe but who says that a bartender isnt a good job I know bartenders that dont drink and make bank|0 Anyone who would vote for or support him again after this is just fucking mental|1 Agreed on the incompetence But they plan for their own incompetence so there are campsI mean field hospitals|0 The richest countries in the world with the best experts didnt prepare for thisYet you an armchair scientist who learned the word asymptomatic last week wouldve had a better strategySimply there have been new diseases and outbreaks every year or two since I can remember|1 1 His statement is not mentioned anywhere in that paper2 If we go by his numbers just letting an unmitigated epidemic go off and treating everything else instead would save 10x as many lives3 Hes saying that 10x as many people will die not from the virus rather from other things that would normally be treated as will die from itIt makes no sense and isnt supported at all by what he said|0 I suppose this is reliable because its cdph but why is everything else saying around 2030 like the cdc if this is true|1 The suspense is killing me|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 02 case fatality rate in the 1040 age group compared with 14 on in the over 80Thats well known to be a very biased underestimate of the case fatality rate See figure 3 simple estimate 1httpsacademicoupcomajearticle162547982647httpsacademicoupcomajearticle162547982647Indeed you seem to have linked an unscientific explanation on the worldometer pagenumber of deaths number of cases probability of dying if infected by the virus Which is not true when the vast majority of the cases at the time of the study are still activePage 115 contains the original information You can verify for yourself that most cases were still active at the time and the analysis made no allowances or adjustments for thathttpweeklychinacdccnfileCCDCWjournalarticleccdcw20208PDFCOVID19pdfhttpweeklychinacdccnfileCCDCWjournalarticleccdcw20208PDFCOVID19pdf|0 If it bleeds it leads is the old journalism rule 1 but I feel now needs a caveat If it bleeds it leads Except if it causes possible pain to the fragile economy You have to understand that here like China the ruling class stay the elite because our economy and first world status keeps most Americans distracted and numb to the fuckery of both parties|0 Nah There probably wont be an election imo|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Faith restored|1 This level of incompetency when evidence suggests any actions to limit social interaction to stop the spread China Italy WHO is necessaryTheres clear economic protectionism going on BoJo was happy to be the bad guy once Hes clearly avoiding responsibility right now to save face|1 Yeah I talked to a doctor friend of mine and his advice was stay home take paracetamol IF I get a high fever or shortness of breath call 061 but otherwise netflix and chill But does that mean they dont want to know about mild cases|1 Why are so many people refusing to admit they have symptoms|0 americans have plenty of christianity cults as well he may have felt at home|1 No it isnt The table does depend on an understanding of epidemiology and of disease ecology and evolution but its comparing recent outbreaks of novelish emerging diseases and showing the ratios of numbers of infections to the number of deaths There is a lot of media scaremongering around the outbreak at the moment particularly in the regard of likening it to MERS and SARS just because they are Coronaviruses The common cold is a coronoavirus as WHO are sensibly mentioning in most of their press releases Not all coronaviruses have massive case fatality rates nCoVs case fatality rate is much lower than SARS MERS Ebola or nipah which noone got worried about because it happened in a much more developed region and was closed down very quicklyIt puts nCoV into perspective against other things people have been scared of and shows that the scaremongering is overblown If you looked at the evolution of the other diseases the case fatality rates would drop as the outbreak continues because a people get better at realising what it is and seek treatment earlier b healthcare systems figure out what the best caretreatment is c a vaccine will get developed pretty quickly if its serious enough and there are enough cases in highincome countriesThe table shows that nCoV is much less likely to kill you than SARS MERS Ebola or Nipah Thats a useful visualization|0 Theyve been around for like 20 years and have had people ask that so dont hold your breath lol|1 uuncertainpepperyAs a result of our initiative in taking on this complex issue OSHA on March 13 issued additional details making it clear that COVID19 can be a recordable illness if a worker is infected as a result of performing their workrelated duties|0 I think hes gonna prevent just that and ignore the situation The guy believes his thoughts and feelings are better evidence than any fact or advisor I suppose we will all find out what his take is at 6 tonight|1 people that make over 100k a year that live paycheck to paycheckraises hand single income 3 kids paid once a month Yep it absolutely happens|1 Right I still remember being speechless Such dedication to the cause Unfortunately this is a way of life for most working class Americans Work through the sickness they do not care as long as you show up Dont get me started on the restaurantretail job sector Others have stated many of their experiences here but its absolutely 10x worse|0 that last sentence hit way too close to home thanks for making me feel less alone in this insanity I love you dad but youre a little crazy|0 They must not being praying hard enough|0 thats based on government figures its getting to the point now where even the most anticonspiracy theory people are starting to ask questions im not going to throw random numbers around but i dont trust the government figures|0 Its almost all imported cases but yes we went from 0 to 50 in like a week and yesterday a state of emergency was declared|1 Yes this is what I wrote basically Least effective because of cost However our doctors and medical facilities are excellent The quality of healthcare is top notch arguably the best in the world probably much better quality than NHS but its not accessible to those who cannot afford it It sucks|1 thank you|1 Just know that its only 3 weeks of intense pain and smart countries are looking at Italy and reacting so your experience will save lives everywhere x200BHere in India they just closed their borders They know that the chance of actual containment here is close to 0 if they get even a single cluster so theyre going all out Before Italy and Iran they would have said its just a flu and Indians are immune etc etc now they realize it could seriously fuck things up and they are moving fast|0 The bright young lads of the late 90s were all jubilant about globalization just in time manufacturing and partnering with China Older wiser heads foresaw possible trouble but were laughed out of the discussion|1 Bag your own groceries and then no one else is touching your purchases or your bagsPeople will either understand how to be sanitary or they wont Im not worried about reusable bags|0 Wow first thanks for being open minded that is a rarity hereI think it was a perfect storm Today we are much more connected hence a great mass hysteria can be created much quicker The media reports news to favor their own party So reporting is sensationalized which causes greater panic Greater panic was created based on mortality rates which were completely over stated They do not know how many people actually have been infected with the virus Italy was the first nation to report this heavily outside China Italy is the perfect storm for the worst case scenario Did you know 5 of their reported swine flu cases resulted in deaths as well They have a very old population 100000 chinese workers going back and forth multi generations living together and poor healthcare What happened in Italy created further panic This panic creates a need for a reaction no matter what Could you imagine what would occur right now if Trump wasnt doing something Again no bias Just a statement Obama played golf the day he declared this a national emergency in 2009 btw A new paradox has been created No one can say those expecting the worse were ever wrong now Those who believe it would terrorize nations will just say the quarantining worked So where does this leave our world next time something like this naturally occurs or is manufactured And then finally and this is just the conspiracy theory in me but this is creating a world of more government dependence and you know how that endsI believe this is a serious thing Its real It will kill peopleI think our reaction to this is the biggest over reaction in the modern civilization|0 Without hot water Id manage by using the stove But our apartments heaters are waterbased so if we dont have hot water we also dont have heat I suppose I can add layers if the temperature doesnt drop to 20 below or something In the summer without air conditioning cold water can do wonders unless the humidity is extremetldr Id manage without you buddy If you need to stay home in order to take care of yourself Im personally not going to tell you that you must work|1 Im sorry should I have included economy collapsing medical infrastructure overwhelming and population decimating as descriptors Obviously I am far less worried about a pandemic of sniffles than a pandemic of higher fatality Good grief|0 They are just applying a bandaid to a large open wound It wont matter much in the end What they are doing is giving the rest of the world a chance to hopefully prepare for this deadly virus|1 Youre echoing my thoughts In another thread people were freaking out that the virus can be spread by HVAC systems like every other airborne virus Smh|0 Just telling you guys what Ive been told its better to be over prepared than underprepared|1 Very wise look at the numbers Also slightly optimistic The second class of country have more stringent delay tactics in place Thats its 510 not 20 rises|1 I did not say that one culture exclusively uses thisSome cultures use appeals to authority as their society is authoritatively based in both language and history with strong social hierarchies and such arguments therefore make sense to that culture more than othersArguments can therefore be thought of as projection of a particular cultures adherence to the types of argument provided as you wouldnt be likely to use an argument that you dont personally consider effective unless you were a used car salesman lol Just like mate means youre probably Aussie and me saying Aussie probably means Im either from that region or have been exposed to them or a pom another hintAppeals to authority are unlikely to work on you if you are British or Australian as the concept of fairness and logic are far more likely to resonate due to culture norms from the region youre fromObviously this is generalising at a societal level not an individual one|0 So the test is unreliable in that the virus is difficult to spot If someone tests negative once it does not mean a person has no virus Thats why Taiwan is testing people 3 times even 4 times and by doing that they were able to catch a few stragglers who tested negative the first 2 timesYou are absolutely right the unreliability of the tests both the test kits and the virus being weird means that the number we have is unreliable Not only that politic also play a huge spot as we know US is not testing nearly enough people and ChinaIran fake their data no concrete proof apart from analyses base on cremation numbers and individual studies thoughhowever the world wide number of infected confirmed or unconfirmed would only be more not less|0 Makes sense 15 of the dead in Iran are under 40|0 Dont you worry you corrupt politicians there will be outrage and uproar Its long overdue|0 Read the twitter thread last night about exponential growth of need for beds Before long the US medical system will be filled and shit will hit the fan|1 dailymailcouk news source may not unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Dont talk logic The children in here going on like Boris is Thanos and that he isnt actually taking advice from his science advisorsEDIT Typically downvoted by you fucking morons I suggest you listen to the Chief Scientific Advisor and Chief Medical Officers Theres method behind the madnesshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvA0chs7bVQ8Yfeatureyoutubet525 Now quit prattling on like daft kids and wash your fucking hands Twats|1 Not surprising they control a lot of supply chain in Asia|0 Why would this teacher go to school while sick We have a serious problem in our society|0 Same Sensationalism is never good for a wandering mind Especially for a wandering mind prone to fear and anxiety And in the end youll be less informed from the bullshit articles and more susceptible to infection because of all the stress Yes there are cases popping up in America Yes it does spread a bit more easily than the flu And yes I can protect myself and my elderly family members|0 Youre right We do live in a world of finite resources But before we can say weve done everything there are so many more places to draw money from Not only the tag is supposed to be higher but also all the global businesses that have been making trillions for their shareholders in the last decade should pitch in instead of crying about decreasing consumer spending They should also do their part IMO governments should do a better job at communicating this and getting everyone on the same page But unfortunately in countries where almost all political campaign funding come from those corporations this is impossible|0 Grain of salt but I asked this exact question to a specialized doctor that I know and he mentioned that if you have enough virus in you to test positive then symptoms should be displayed the majority of the time if not very soon He said he wouldnt expect them to develop severe symptoms as long as they were asymptomatic at the time of testing positive and even went so far as to say he expected them to stay asymptomatic But yes we need to see if Japan can clarify on this report I wish a journalist would track down the NIH in Japan and ask them for a report of the 400 asymptomatics and the other mild cases and what those cases entailed|1 I can imagine MIL generally assumes new things are poisonous|0 So I would assume doctors would advise nursing mothers to continue to feed their babies because of the nutritional benefits and antibodies provided in breast milk This is anecdotal but I remember when I was nursing my very young son and my husband and I both got sick with a bad cold We were terrified he was going to get it but he didnt This happened a couple more times as it was cold and flu season but he didnt get his first cold until he was around 8 months|0 Thats so interesting Thanks for the reply|1 Ive said this to so many people and now theyre taking me more seriously I had one person try and talk me out of believing the knowledge I had|0 Im really hoping they do ive got a uni job that requires me to interact with a ton of people and its freaking me out|1 Stonks only go up in trumps market Im not selling my shares|0 I think well see George Martins new book before we see sarscov2 testing|1 Yikes a friend from New York tested positive today and was a regular user of the NYC metro NYC is going to explode and its probably well on its way up and down the BosWash corridor|1 If anything those with minor symptoms are more important I imagine someone who is coughing horribly will already be self isolating You want to catch spreaders early who might still be going out grocery stores and restaurants|0 Easily thousands Maybe 20000|1 Yup I have been closely involved in these clinics The criteria changed on Wednesday this week its now 1 Symptomatic AND2 Been overseas anywhere in the last 2 weeks OR3 Close contact with a confirmed caseUnofficially healthcare workers need only meet the first criteria to be tested as we are around a lot of sick people and also look after the frail elderly and immunocompromised|0 Jesus this is just a fucking conspiracy theory sub nowDo you idiots really think China paid 20 million to have a bullet point removedGod damn you people are fucking stupid|0 Cant believe Dr Anthony Fauci is 79 years old Im more worried about him than anybody else That man needs some rest he already sounds like he has a sore throat|0 Its not fear mongering its looking at the facts and realizing this isnt like anything we had before|1 Thank you for you insight|1 Pretty much its the potential for infecting a massive amount of people that is the key issue Outcomes are dependent on quality of care which is fine when cases are low but if you have 80k cases like in China and 5 of them are serious it puts a huge strain on hospitals Death rates go up because healthcare workers start to fall ill and there isnt enough capacity to treat the poorly|1 The man in charge thinks this couldnt be handled any better at the moment so lets wait and see BIG SAD|0 People are proud to be patient 31 bc freedom|1 Sample size of 1 patient appears well|1 The refrigeration engineer there is usually crew member with this specialism on board gets a message on the walkie talkie from the captain or whoevers in charge Hey Reffy could you please start freezer number 5 and hes like Aha one of them crusties must have kicked the bucket lmao|1 Literally sounds like Hell Many tortured souls wailing into the darkness Those poor people May god have mercy on their souls|0 HmmI might be getting mixed up with average age and median ageI watched a video with British reporters interviewing the Pandemic Response Coordinator or Director in Italy He gave a different number I will ask my wife if she still has the video and I will link it in the morning|1 Im really sad that theyre cancelling it especially with Sony and other companies not participating anymore It doesnt seem optimistic there will be an E3 2021Edit Nintendo to Sony|0 If this means the virus has mutated that is bad news|0 Same here DMs are open if you ever want someone to talk with|1 And here I was hoping for some good news|1 All good pointsIs there early data on the test kit accuracy in the US|1 It was my RN millennial kid that made fun of me|1 Coachella hasnt even been cancelled Wtf|0 And they have no toilet paper|0 25billion dollars of good travel every day You shut that off you have no oranges strawberries etc who is going to deliver it for you|1 China has been hiding information about this since day 1|0 everything is getting hit Were all going under quarantine everyone will need a bailout This picking choosing is ridiculous and smacks of insider collusion|0 Wish I could upvote this 50 times|1 One percent representative of much more than the first patient but yes|1 Omg same thing My coworker and I were just talking about shit like this Our whole warehouse has been passing the flu around for the past 3 weeks because people dont want to look weird wearing a mask and ultimately infecting all their coworkers Myself included I wasnt even aware anyone was sick yet Weve been talking about this Wuhan flu for the past week and have both said the people that will spread this are the one dont take or seriously or dont want to look like a weirdo People cant be bothered to wash their hands on a regular basis If it starts to spread in the USA we are fucked because people are lazy inconsiderate and would rather get sick than look silly in a maskIve bought a reusable N95 and P100 mask to use at work because I just dont trust anyone to give a shit|0 Dear god thank you At least one person who gets it This sub is insane the last few days|1 Funny to me everytime Different lol I think i just have the type of humour that even if I was ill in hospital with it these jokes would make me laugh|1 Well we will shut down all retail due to the coronavirus but most should come back up in a few months Kohls will still be here JCPenny and Macys may not make it Lots of corporate fatalities More than in 2008 I remember when circuit city and another computer store died|0 Ahahah I was just about to share this you beat me to it|1 Sure NextDoor is a nifty app that allows you to connect with people in your neighborhood Theres really just a feed and normally people post stuff looking for a handyman where potholes are good coffee shops etc Lately people have been posting that they are available to help others who are high risk and are afraid to leave their house I replied to one of those threads offering help and a community organizer reached out to see if I would be a point person for my neighborhood so I signed up I also had an older woman who has health issues ask me to pick up her prescription at Costco today All I posted was my general location that I have a car am low risk and willing to help I think its important to have a good picture on your profile since this is all going to be based on trust I think that is why the woman asked me for help because I have a full profile I think the app is a good place to start but I know that a lot of older folks probably dont use apps like this so our next challenge will be figuring out how we can connect with people who dont use the internet very much I am hoping the community group will get together to talk about this very soon It will probably end up being door to door flyers|1 Lady Coronas travels can be followed on this dashboard from John Hopkins University Medicine Usually these are password protected but this one has been made available to the public Right now 124913 cases worldwide 93 of these in China Korea Iran and Italyhttpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 You clearly have a very firm grasp on the meaning of words|1 The insurance companies have said they will pay for virus related issues This isnt normal operations|0 Tests are not hard to make cdc just refused to give out approvalsOnce approval is down or when the states have enough and go on anyway they can ramp up tests quickly|1 Yes sorry it took so long|1 The peoples stupidity baffles me They might get infected go back to their own states and make this epidemic faster Only because people think oh im young only 02 death rate for us its fine i have no underlying health conditions But they disregard the safety of everyone around them|0 Hmm maybe they did it so it looked like the s type was the original one and it was from the market|1 Yes the evolving guidelines are right Supportive care is all we have And we can try early indicator drugs with low toxicity From a triage perspective its reasonable to withhold invasive ventilation from anyone with no prospect of recovery if resources are limited It is never not a very tough decisionVentilating an atypical pneumonia with likely added direct myocardial toxicity too is not straightforward at all They are nursed prone on their stomachs which makes the intubation and positioning process onerous and the equipment needed for monitoring more complex too This is not a trivial skill to train Critical nurses can do it Anesthiologists and intensivists have the skills now I am an ER doc and probably need some oversight for a couple of days Pulmonologists can similarly upskill quickly But we are fishing in a small pool This is the chief problem in my view In addition non invasive ventilation we sometimes use CPAP and BiPAP simply wont work for these patients in respiratory failureETA The prevalence of cardiovascular comorbidity means that many of these patients may require inotropic support This is another highly intensive treatment approach requiring skill and practice For example I may use inotropics on a couple of patient a week but do it in a resuscitation environment Ongoing care is intensive care|1 Few companies would do that Its the lack of paid time off that will bring people to work while Ill|0 Coworker just came back from abroad to Ontario is under quarantine and still thinks the whole outbreak is nothing Thank you and I wish you luck in the coming days|1 God saved the queen is another option Thats if you know the words|1 Is it possible to explain how this works to a layman Does it block a human ACE2 receptor site or mimic a ACE2 receptor|0 Everyone involved in delaying the shut down really should have their investmentincome closely looked at Going ahead with Cheltenham is ridiculous|0 But drinking bleach will kill you|0 If I follow the logic of the petition then any lifesaving intellectual property should be public knowledgeYour first assumption is that publicly and nonprofitfunded scientific articles are intellectual property Who is the intellectual copyright holder How did that holder go about earning the rights to the articles What is their creative role in the creation of the articleIntellectual property is antithetical to scientific research almost any publishing research scientist would agree because the purpose of IP is profit motivation Citations are sciences form of intellectual property because citations drive attribution and attribution drives scientists personal profit Intellectual property has no place in scientific research resulting in scientific articles any publishing scientist would agree with that because there is no intellect to protectTheyre sharing their intellect for free its their primary responsibility as a scientist The intellect you refer to in fact consists of wait for it PDF formattingI think sometimes greedy assholes can do a better job of making lifesaving discoveriesInteresting observation but it isnt true in scientific research because scientists publish their work unpaid for freeCan you explain why you want to target one company instead of working toward a law that would cover all lifesaving discoveriesChanging law isnt something we can do in the duration of a viral outbreak Unlocking a few thousand articles for scientists to learn from is|1 They are used to track its evolution and potential development of different strains of this virus which helps in case tracking research of its adaptation to humans and other molecular mechanisms It also might help to identify regions that stay conserved which suggests that they have an important function and might make them a good target for a antibodies A similar analysishttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6041311 for recurrent influenza strains for example showed that one domain of its HA protein mutates slower and thus could be a better target for vaccines|1 And related For the average healthy person family say two parents in their 40s reasonably healthy w 2 teenage kids and no major risk factors non smokers healthy lungs etc what should we do if someone in the household gets sick Notify school work Doctor Just get comfortable at home Isolate the sickie in a room and try to stay hydrated comfortable Self quarantine the rest of the house|1 Hes not selling treatments Hes selling stuff to help you immune system This is fake news|1 Wow theyve wiped it out|1 Im glad your better Its just weird cause Im sure the young people that got put on a ventilator were sure that they didnt need it and had people telling them the chance is low then bam it happens|1 No it doesnt Not outside in the elements under regular UV exposure For regular indoor surfaces highest estimates are 7 to 9 days far from weeks Stop spreading misinformation|0 there are specific species with a higher propensity for being natural reservoirsAdd endangered species to this list just because China doesnt need to push species extinct to satisfy bogus TCMluxury food demand|1 Scary times I understand not getting people into a giant panic like when I first started looking at it I thought it was going to have a death rate of like 20 or more and I was freaking out lol Then I read its about double the common flu and as much as that still bothers me I didnt feel I needed to stockpile 2 years of TPBut under reporting how contagious it is wont help anyone Im really scared for my parents as theyre 71 Im just glad they arent glued to Fox news like many their ageBtw Im not trying to condone the death rate It still sucks but I really thought it was a Plague Inc when I first started seeing it on Reddit I thought if I got it I had a 50 chance to live Like early Ebola|0 The post is littered with speculation and has no supporting evidence|1 uhhhhh my company makes graduation gowns Is there any way we can celebrate the ingenuity while dissuading this from continuing Our markup on virtual gowns is not very profitable|1 AOC is 30 Good for not dying from COVID19 But it is bad when you want to become president because it is literally unconstitutional for her to run|0 I think thats a great idea In the meantime you might try sorting by new When I do that there seem to be several international posts for every US one|1 Good advice Tastes like Id imagine a horses ass would taste but good advice|1 I like your thought process on this We have some differences yet some similarities I replied to the same dude if youre interested in what I said|1 I reckon if they allow testing for free with no medical bill to pay it would be more cost effective in the long run If there is a massive outbreak it would harm the economy much more|1 No they are NOT herd immunity Downvoted|0 Have no fear there was a miracle in China on March 1st 2020 It is funny you mentioned how everything is all good because that is exactly what happened effective March 1st The Chinese people no longer needs to waste time on pesky stuff that might give a negative vibe and can instead focus on positivity Think of it like political correctness but all that information you are looking for is not politically correct therefore unnecessary httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar02chinanewinternetcensorshiprulesraisefearsofrenewedcrackdownhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar02chinanewinternetcensorshiprulesraisefearsofrenewedcrackdown Just use google translate on the below link to get a better understanding of what the true law is httpwwwcacgovcn20191220c1578375159509309htmhttpwwwcacgovcn20191220c1578375159509309htm|1 I was controlled by strict diet and exercise for postprandial numbers But it had no effect on my fasting numbers I am told this is common Ive been on insulin for much of the pregnancy now We had to add more insulin this week to cover the daytime because even eating minuscule amounts of carbs was enough to spike my blood sugar I wish insulin were avoidable but sadly sometimes that doesnt work out|0 Id more think that manufacturing would move to someplace like Japan|1 Walmart being humane It truly is the end of the world|1 Id like to let them explain why they want to wait till number go up before harsher measuresSurely you put harsher measures in now to nip it in the budThey refer to science and that people will be restless if they take hard action earlier but surely on the way down we will at the recovery stage reach the numbers we have nowSo why wait for cases to rocket as some person on the radio said today To then battle the cases down to current levelsThe same experiment has been happening in Asia I think it was ignored as it was way over thereIts been getting closer and closer to the UK it is now getting bad in Italy|0 Yep|1 I live very close to a safeway so its pretty easy to get low effort food like frozen pizza I will probably save a lot of money during this time by not getting lunch downtown not driving to work not going out to the bar not feeling good enough to impulsively buy things on amazon lol|1 I agree 100|1 if there were any available health care providers can buy them and pay a ridiculous markup just like they charge their customers|1 A friend of mine has it Says hes coughing so hard his face turns blue Just the sniffles some people are saying Yikes|1 Covids bad but I think the worst infection of this decade is the stupidity of the people|0 Nope they are saying Its only like 1 its just the flu This shit is worse than the spanish flu|0 Some 18 of adults reported that they had been laid off or that their work hours had been cut a new poll foundThe proportion affected grew for lowerincome households with 25 of those making less than 50000 a year reporting that they had been let go or had their hours reduced according toa surveyreleased Tuesday by NPRA one payment of 1000household will not save 25 of the population those making less than 50kyear While Trump and Mnuchin work on another tax break for the top 20 the bottom 25 needs more help than tax breaks they need covid19 testing and comprehensive help including free healthcare free food free internet access free online educations subsidised rents and free public transportation|1 What should be done is a simple executive order stating the govt will pay for the costs of quarantine for any individual whos job is affected Pay for any health costs for individuals affected Then we Bill China later for their damn virus|0 no testing no new cases bravo|0 Funny that society has no problem with going into work or school when someone has the flu which kills 50000 per year but with corona which has killed 3400 everyone is losing their minds and buying out the pasta aisle in their grocery stores|0 One can wish for it even though we know better|1 Well in the most recent death I read significant underlying health conditions which would indicate to me that it was something quite seriousBut theres no reason why they cant just tell us the conditions the deceased had|0 Why not deploy mobile hospital ie military style Less critical go there Also utilize school and private gym if necessary Yeah I know lack of ventilator is a big obstacle but perhaps if some patients can receive some sort of treatment before they need it they might have a better chance for survival|1 Ive been hearing that half the people in the ICU for it are under 50 theyre just more likely to survive with treatment Young people are certainly at risk especially if hospitals get overwhelmed and they cant get treated|1 Hes referring to the Asian doctor United beat the shit out of last year because he wouldnt give up his seat to a United employee|1 The dude is too vain to wear glasses Its a common thing for him sStill is a weird squinting to read pattern One eye is half as open as the other Stroke You know from his unplanned physical a month or two ago|0 This isnt even the half of it just wait until oil companies start going bankrupt|0 If a man did that to a woman people would be outraged and the dude would get firedHer name wasnt Karen by any chance|0 Could be anxiety but like others have said I am not a doctor Fever and cough are major symptoms of the virus|1 Kirkland WA Im 30 and live a few miles from the Kirkland Lifecare Center or what the news has dubbed the epicenter Life is still going on but there is an cautious slightly omnimous energy here You still see people out in downtown KirklandBellevue but they tend be younger and its considerably less populated than usual My friends in Seattle are still going to restaurants the Sounders game etc and another friend that works up at the local ski area says numbers are down but people are still skiing That said my colleaguesfriendsfamily in Kirkland are mostly voluntarily isolating It feels a lot closer when its literally in your backyard I have the ability to WFH so stocked up on food a week ago and havent left my house unless absolutely necessary more so to avoid potentially infecting my older family and unintentionally spreading than out of fear Its really sad watching the local news here and my heart goes out to every one affected stay safe yall|1 Yes they have thats why its called herd IMMUNITY It doesnt mean its 100 disease proof but its very close to it It wont become a pandemic but rather society would get hit randomly time to time individual levelIf herd immunity was a myth you me and everyone here would be sick all the time|0 Couldnt we ask the Chinese government for their total about of pneumonia related deaths and 2019nCOV Do medical professionals keep stats on this stuff This is assuming they are being honest and transparent|1 The Administration youre trying to reach is not currently available Please leave a message after the tone|0 Thats not what the CDC doesI dont blame the US for not supporting paying for europeans healthcare I dont particularly want to spend thousands of my own personal dollars every year to save the lives of other people I have never and will never meet thousands of miles away|1 Guys this is funny but misleading Notice the collectiveinfrastructure part Its based on a rushed translation of the Norwegian term kollektiv short for kollektiv transport Ie public transportThe US is a very much car based society contrasted to countries like Norway You cant get a drivers license before you turn 18 cars were never cheap but when they became affordable they got a hefty tax slapped on it In short young people and students are so much more dependent on buses and subways to get aroundIve a few friends who studied in the US One lived in Montana and owned a car the other lived in Charleston and had to take the bus The latter was teased for it by his American girlfriend not maliciously it just highlights the difference in culture|1 Its like weeaboos|1 Like it it not the terms Brexiteer and remainerremoaner became part of our vocabulary for the past few years The term remoaner is simply used to describe those who hadnt accepted the result and were campaigning to overturn a referendumTrying to link the virus to Brexit as some have done is quite possibly a bit pathetic It is not prejudice to describe them as a remoaner That term has been used over and over for three years nowOf course not all those who voted remain wanted to overturn the referendum The OP never suggested they did They used the term remoaner which is used differently to remainer Remoaner is used to describe a remainer that still hasnt accepted the resultOver on UnitedKingdom sub I have reported two comments this week that said they cant wait till Brexiteers and the old folk die And that they deserve a horrible death Prior to me reporting them they had several upvotesWould I call them remoaners Yep Pathetic Yep Utterly sick Definitely Am I prejudiced for calling them out Well you sure seem to think so|0 I guess reading up on antivirals right nowI am not a medical professional they would be using a broadspectrum antiviral to try and negate issues with the most serious cases I havent read anything regarding preexisting antivirals or the effects or results of their use although I did a quick search and found this articlehttpswwwscientificamericancomarticleapromisingantiviralisbeingtestedforthecoronavirusbutresultsarenotyetout from six days ago Says trials wont be available until April on their effectiveness Two trials of remdesivir are currently underway in China one for severe cases of COVID19 and the other for mild or moderate cases Results for both trials are expected in April Another clinical trial is planned in the US and it will be run by the University of Nebraska Medical Center and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases That trial will be conducted at up to 50 sites around the world and will test remdesivir against a placebo|0 Honestly not reporting at all is going to cause a bigger panic The smartest thing to do if you want to hide the truth is to under report This is what I personally believe western nations and China are currently doing|1 I work for TSA at VA If she is flying out Dulles the wait times are not bad Maybe 20 minutes at most This is a dead season for us anyways not a ton of flights right after the holidays and it only begins to pick up in March Dulles is seeing low numbers below 10k people traveling domestically The international terminal are separate from the domestic you have to take a train here at Dulles Cant speak for DCA But she should be fine traveling from here to California without issue Nothing has changed for TSA screening procedures as of yet beyond international passengers getting screened by CDC first then CBP then usIf she wants try the smaller airport Charlottesville which connect to Dulles Maybe a drive to get there but lot less people flying out of the smaller airports into the bigger ones so you avoid the crowds somewhat more But Dulles is slow on our checkpoints and if she has precheck itll be even faster|0 Extremely incapable of testing|0 Since CHINA was covering up the virus before reporting to WHO can we actually sue CHINA for this as a crime at the international court|0 Good science can be replicated by other scientists using the same guidelines with predictable outcomesBad science falls apart when other scientists using the same guidelines get different results|1 Myself and other Redditors due in the next couple of months are kinda losing our heads over this Gotta keep these hands washed and stay home until then|0 No you are seeing things clearly Some people either are just that ignorant or they cannot handle itI am in the same boat|0 My wifes 80 year old parents would not cancel their yearly Disney trip this year and are currently there Her sister is boarding a plane with her two kids and going today as well When we spoke last night her mom said no one down there is concerned and she isnt either I got in a fight with my wife about that Stupid|0 In Australia youre entitled to sick leave which is usually around 17 days pay I was told to use my holiday pay until I can prove i have Corona Virus which is actually against the law|0 Ok doomer|1 Im 188 miles This map is seriously so cool and helpful|1 LI New York Shit has hit the fan here Grocery stores are packed and lines are incredibly long Meat section is picked apart and people are filling their carts completely to the top Im a preschool teacher and the woman at my job are panicking which is making an anxiety echo chamber like Ive never seen before We are begging parents for soap and paper towels because we are washing the kids hands more often than usual which is already oftenWe havent had hand sanitizer on shelves in a while Clorox wipes sold out sometime earlier this week cleaning supplies in general are either completely sold out or lowMy husband and I are lucky that we have been preparing since early February but it makes going to the store to pick up fillers much harder with everyone panicking Overall the panic is real and people dont know how to handle it|0 I going to be honest Ive been in complete despair all day Ive had a cold for a week now and just randomly went today Why even bother going to the doctor now They wont test me Its over|0 Not just slow response He cut cdc funding dissolved the cdc pandemic team and left a huge amount of important government positions empty Then the government proceeded to go full China and deny anything was even happening|0 Granted that does not mean youre at risk yourself but diabetes isnt just something thats no big deal It has the potential to cause problems with other areas of the body as well|0 Thank you I wish you the same Stay safe|1 That is weird lol Just eat it inside not right now obviously or take it home Or better yet just make your own food at home I wouldnt dream of eating in my car|1 This timeline definitely has a fanfic writer thats for sure|1 More and more these reports are london based Stay safe go spray alcohol on all surfaces|1 I guess test people who exhibit hallmark symptoms andor people who are known or suspected to come into contact with a covid19 individual If there are still not enough tests how do you determine who gets tested|0 How many people will die because our president is more concerned making money and looking good than he is with actually keeping people safe|1 Ah the ninja approach You make the virus asymptomatic but virulent as fuck wait until all the countries are infected then mutate it to make it lethal Heck even Pneumonia is one of those symptons that mutate automatically and you need to invest some points to remove it|0 overcautious yes overwhelmed by fear that the very air is saturated with the virus in public No which is who this post is for|0 Oh damn thats crazy enough already without the disinfectant|0 Thank you|1 Bulk mail is wrapped in huge bundles and shipped on palettes for delivery to zip codes It is unlikely this employee even directly touched the outside of a bundle|1 Thats why its a bad idea to break the law|0 cut your elderly lossesdamn|0 Thanks Ive also been watching the ILI data for about the same length of time thinking the same thing Has anybody been able to think of any other current statistic that might show community spread in the US|1 Well if it survives on surfaces I think about every time I use my bank card while shopping I have to press buttons enter my pin number etc I wonder how many people are using these machines a day Ill definitely have to remember to not touch my face after I go shopping whether Im using cash or my debit card|1 If it can save money then they dont care|1 Id try to change that ASAP if I were youit might cost you but you need to decide if its worth it|1 Its been sad watching him lose hope slowly and slowly he seems like such a nice guy|1 Yes please|1 If the earth wanted to fight back all that would be necessary is to make Ebola aids airborne|0 I believe you completely there are a lot of reasons probably and mostly because nobody knows how to change their own position within a discourse without the discourse environment shifting or breaking but I believe you and Im saying this withyounotat you the First they Came For The thing I dont like being a pretend genius and looking stuff up that I dont already know First they came for the trade unionists and then they came for the Jesuits and then they came for the Theres a verion of this with the fuk lifeslow laning of so many people when we culturally had thisloser goes untergang narrative normalized reified so hard in our media thatdiscretely shitty clothes bad car getting handcuffed in the rain wearing an ugly beard is likehow do I say it like both a destination people feel drawn to and the direct result of trying to save face in a culture where narrative consistency so often takes precedence over ones own safety and survival all of the reasonable options to buyin and save face are also the heuristics of crime and stigma what im saying is somewhatif its sorted one way its not the other thing so when the deaths are tallied for opiates for instance theres one numberbut when and this was a recent medical journal study it should be easy to findwhen someone actually looks at the deaths that werewell not a murder not mysterious not explained 22 years old or 35 and not a suicide but not an accident and not a mysterythese recorded by a bunch of coroners without a degree of any kind well its a different and much higher number idk thats not at you in a reddit thread thats toyou as if were in a crowded room udntevenknow you might think so that its an issue of scale when it comes to death and that this is a heuristic you can understand I gauruntee you its not source have left friend at morgue unburied and without a funeral and I dont know what they did with his body something thats made the gang of four into me and two ladies who probably cant talk about this yet and i will not ease up on myself for anytime soon Academic source httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvnjf8jwEGRohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvnjf8jwEGRo|1 The article says nothing about Russia or other countries which share the border with China is that data collected somehow somewhere|1 Maybe babies stored enough nutrients that they have more resources to counter small illness like flu|0 Densely populated area hospitals are the most prepared for this lol ICU and ER overrun is not a given I can tell you that from firsthand experience|1 Wholesome Can amazon also deliver trump administration out of the country|1 Yep since we didnt get anything reliable out of China we havent been able to answer key questions before it hit in other countries Once in triage mode it will take a while before we can sort through the new data and get those answers|1 Its okay everyone working in retail has health insurance and paid time off so they can go seek treatment and recover if necessary This would be a much more awful pandemic if the people working in those industries were underpaid didnt have savings and werent eligible to get basic benefits Can you even imagine Itd be a full blown crisis for that country|0 I mean if you post something you better read it It literally said that homemade mask doesnt protect against viral and bacterial organism It only protect against large droplets which WHO have explained multiple times not enough for this sub it seems isnt a driver of transmission of the new coronavirushttpsmedlineplusgovcoronavirusinfectionshtmlhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasksWHO reporthttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf|0 Okay I could be wrong butBecause thats 2 of critical casesbut all 5 of the critical cases are getting a lot of medical care and 2 are dying anyway Now overwhelm the hospitals and those hospitals are full Those critical cases arent going to be getting that care so more of them will die The severe cases arent going to be getting care so more of them will die Its going to be 1 get mild version and be okay 2 get bad version and recover 3 get bad version and recover but have lasting health issues 4 get bad version and die|0 Great idea though a bit drastic The country doesnt want to go down like a sinking ship|1 Nice try CCP|1 No reply Why should people lose their house if they are quarantined They still get money|0 Trumps mind Corona Virus is a cult just like global warming|1 Excellent rant thank you and I hope this gets the attention it deserves I share your outrage as a former nurse this situation absolutely unforgivable Please do all you can to keep yourself as safe as you can Im so sorry you are on the front lines of this without basic PPE and no leadership Its totally outrageous that you dontI wish I could finds words to comfort you as I write this with tears in my eyes anything I say would be completely inadequate but I will say to you my heart reaches out for yours and I share your despair for your patients your community and for your situation|1 Not to be that guy but its actually roughly 100 deaths a day by auto in the US about 36k a year Had a coworker misquoting this stat as a data point to show how irrational the public isSourcehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMotorvehiclefatalityrateinUSbyyear|0 And this is with stopping all travel into the USA from affected countries It still blows my mind that canada allowed people into the country while they didnt but BC is a few weeks behind the USA I know Im going to get a bunch of but were not testing tho responses Which just inst true Were not testing enough but were testing how else did we find Iranians and Italians cases before we knew how wide spread it was or American cases Im pretty sure its a distinctive disease once it progresses to a certain point and the USA just decided to give up on it from the get go I bet it has a lot to do with health care fees Why bother testing a few people when you already know the majority are going to avoid the hospital and keep working because they cant afford to pay for treatment|1 Because no one really wants to get it and its a new virus with no vaccine |0 Its transmissible through infected fluids and it seems that clinic did not have proper access to hygienic equipment While thats a tragedy again HIV is objectively less transmissible than COVID19 making the comparison very forced|0 This is what I was worried about China is hiding something Italys death rate is about 67 currently and its only been going up|0 So what you do is listen to everyone and stop going to social gatherings for a little whileSaying I dont know if Im sick isnt really an excuse Just stay away from people as best as you canThe problem isnt those people here though Its the people who just dont give a shit and still think this is some global conspiracy by the US democrats You know stupid people|0 likely to be close to 8k infected httpsdrivegooglecomfiled1bS6S4oNRuMHD4ezh177QSf3UU6a8lQHvviewfbclidIwAR3wNgx2ChfbXMAHjeUo2O0HS7CocXujO0cB0hgtaTirGE7q4fJaMN0rAhttpsdrivegooglecomfiled1bS6S4oNRuMHD4ezh177QSf3UU6a8lQHvviewfbclidIwAR3wNgx2ChfbXMAHjeUo2O0HS7CocXujO0cB0hgtaTirGE7q4fJaMN0rA|0 Actually only Chinese officials are being held accountable All Wuhan and Hubei bosses have been fired a month ago|0 You can add Singapore to that list They were one of the earliest countries infected and still dont have any deaths|0 We banned flights form China in January we got the virus anywayIts how you organize the arrivals blocking them Is not sufficient|0 So IT or Security can pull up the access control log of any badge access areas Not so much with coded doors This is more than likely an inside job You should speak with infection control about getting to the bottom of this NOW or cosing ED and diverting all ER cases for triage elsewhereYou should also speak to the other nurses about walking off Your health is more important than this work and as a nurse you can find a job anywhereWhere the fuck is your unionIf our first responders and nurses are sick then in 2 weeks when theres thousands that need oxygen or ventilated everyone will be fuckedThis disease has 30 year olds fighting for their liveshttpswwwredditcomrchinaflucommentsfbgssl Its a roll of the dice This is not the flu|0 Doesnt help that literally every college student is about to travel for spring break|0 We dont need real numbers we just need numbers we can compare to other disease Google Spanish Flu the US has put similar even more harsh lockdowns in place before Heck they even locked down Boston recently|0 Just use hand sanitizer on your asshole youll be ok|1 They think iTs nOt ThE GoVeRnMEntS JoB BeTTeR HaVe PrIvATE INduSTrY dO It|1 Ive also heard some teachers are offering to watch kids for parents who have to stay at work during this time Either way its not like teachers caused the virus so its dumb to be mean to them about the whole situation|0 Italians would be dead if they could not go to their cafe|0 This has been getting me for a long time So many people I have talked to in Canada have had a horrific flu this year people that have dont usually get sick were out for a week or more with fever My pregnant wife had a fever so I took her to emergency she had muscle aches fatigue as well She tested negative for all flus I understand sometimes it can be a rare strain or not one they can test for but given the circumstances its odd My two year old was the one to give it to her he had a fever of 405 and ended up in the hospital had it for 67 days seemed to linger for a month I only got a slight sore throat for a day and then beat it I know we got it from a class he was in those parents were sick for weeks it seemed This was around Christmas in Vancouver|0 As an avid newjunk i can concur the medias response to this crisis gives a lot of weight to the gravity of the situation Big players dont cancel their million dollar events worldwide for no reason You dont quarantaine this many People for no reason The chinese social media clips show dont show madness like this for a flu like virus Shit is real|0 I just cancelled my sons plans with my ex due to the fact he was sick I also have autoimmune diseases Its not worth my life Even if its not Coronavirus i still cant risk getting sick|0 At least it will stop the school shootings for a while if they are closed|0 you are missing the point idiot Tons of people will be out of work A lot of families will be affected since no one is flying|0 No idea All I know is a 150000000 investment probably gives Tencent a little more than a say in what goes on|0 Keep Calm and Die|0 Just sent this to HR and my line manager by emailHiFurther to my previous email below The WHO Director Tedros Adhanom has recommended this afternoon that If you are 60 or have an underlying condition like cardiovascular disease a respiratory condition or diabetes you have a higher risk of developing severe COVID19 Try to avoid crowded areas such as public transport or places where you might interact with people who are sick The UK Government have confirmed they will be following all WHO advice to stop the spread of the virus and to protect vulnerable people in at risk groups I suspect the general public will receive more information after their Cobra meeting tomorrow Ive attached details in the link belowhttpswwwgooglecomampsnewsskycomstoryampcoronaviruswhowarnselderlyandsicktoavoidcrowdsaslouvreshutsdoors11947053I have informed my manager of the updated situation this evening and already have full laptop access to work from homeI rely on 2 busy trains into London and back which is very high risk in our current situation I am also a severe asthmatic and rely on steroid inhalers to control my condition On top of this I also had two recent operations in November and am currently undergoing investigations for cardiomyopathyIn light of recent UK community transmissions and in line with todays updated Government and WHO advice I feel that it would be a good idea for the safety of all staff over 60 and those with underlying conditions like cardiovascular disease a respiratory condition or diabetes especially those in this category that are solely reliant on public transport networks to be able to work from home until there are further updatesSo yeah Im basically refusing to go in They dont care about their employees if they try to make me go in Honestly I think so many millions of people are so unprepared for the shit storm coming this week Im stocked up and prepared With a respiratory disease I have a 1 in 20 chance of dying from this according to the official stats so Im shit scared to be honest Here we go|1 MoCo always seems to have their act together for stuff like this but Im pretty new to MD|1 Excellent point |1 Just some rough estimate at the moment they appear to only be testing those with severe symptoms Except SK which are 120 so 200000 severe symptoms 4000000 with some symptoms and they say 80 of people are asymptomatic 20000000 total infected With 8000 deaths and 1 of those had no pre existing risk factor 80 deaths in 20 million if you are healthy regardless of age And i would bet the total infected is far greater than 20 million|0 Hmmm a right wing politician who denied the virus all together or multiple media outlets and science Hard choices|0 Very weird to be announcing this given we dont even know if this is some kind of terror attack Hey everyone You know that virus thats currently ravaging the world that would make a great bioweapon We have it right here in this particular lab at this particular university|0 You dont smoke Tarlytons Fuck you|1 WHO recommend masks if you are caring for a symptomatic person which implies they protect you|1 As inappropriate as it was I belly laughed at this|1 Well that sucks Tough times are ahead of you but listen considering what you have built and raised Im sure youll be able to get through it|1 These statistics are extremely important Thank you for sharing in a concise clear manner It gives insight and a plausible reason why Italy with a generally older population is getting such a high mortality rate|1 Lol like other countries doesn t already have it|1 In normal times med shortages are constantly occurring I am all for being prepared but I think this is quite misleading I would say the of shortages is on par with the average of shortages nothing exceptional right now|0 Italian here these audios are fakes lol ask on rItaly if you dont trust me|0 Subjectively I feel the message might not be for tourist maybe this time he was actually referring to awe whoever care to understand why nobody is truly safe out in the crowd Tourist or NYkers alike COVID19 DOESNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE|1 The only wacky math is the bullshit numbers coming out of China|0 You can choose to believe me or not I have no control over you If it was my job at risk Id be all in but its not If you listen to nothing I say at least listen to this states are struggling to test and the lesser states are having an even harder time|0 What a strange replyYou obviously have no grasp of reality if you think cops should not be allowed to defend themselves|0 Thanks for letting me know|1 It just means we havent had anyone with it severe enough to go to hospital or be able to trace to known contacts|0 Generally more fun risking AIDS tho|1 This is good Premiums are going to skyrocket though|1 Im kind of sad I finished school before this became a thing It would be so insanely easy to fake it|0 Its not that we are uneducated its because its fucked upIf the population does not want him to be the president why is he the president That goes against basic democracyAlso Jesus Christ I forgot that in the last presidential there was not even one appropriate candidate|0 im asking for some help hereanyone can provide me with a reliable source that gives not the total numbers but the numbers day by day in china and other countries i wanna do some math and i need to see the progression of this|1 They know weve been weakened by the fire Now is the time to strike|0 Occams and Hanlons Razor man it could be that individual governments are run by people who just want to keep their economies from grinding to a halt and are trying to downplay it to keep its populations working Self preservation is a basic human instinct The reason why all these governments are acting the same is because thats how a standard government will act Pretend like nothings wrong until theyre FORCED to act|0 They arent flattening the curve though that is the point They have done nothing to flatten the curve other than give people advice to wash their hands They have also now just announced this herd immunity strategy so people are now thinking either they should try get the virus to get over it quickly and get immunity or making people think the NHS is going to be overwhelmed pretty soon so they should get the virus asap to guarantee theyre more likely to get a hospital bed if they need one So if anything the government is exacerbating the peak To flatten the curve you need to take the measures other countries are taking you know do things that slow the rate of infection so fewer people get it all at once so fewer people need critical care all at once Other countries can also do the herd immunity thing to control it long term they are just making sure they save more lives along the way by taking action now to slow the rate of infection so their health systems can cope|1 This is amazing We need more people to step up like this instead of these large companies worrying about theyre wealth The lives of people around the world are really are whats at stake here If the wealthyupper class help the people that cant afford to survive with the rise of self isolation this will reduce the spread tremendously Too many people have to work through this to provide for their family risking lives|1 Yes it is Behring for whom Behring Diagnostics was named and then became SiemensI spent time training at Siemens in Delawareloved themoff topicAnyway yes Behring saved a lot of lives using this to fight diphtheria|1 I think it has a 512 day normal incubation though it can be longer and takes like 2 weeks to get bad after symptoms start So we are seeing first generation infections outside of china Its likely in the next two weeks we will see a bunch of 2and and 3rd generation infections|0 Yeah but Reddit UK politics sees anything conservative as Satans equal|1 Wow Interesting I live in Queens and I was tested for the flu strep and mono during the first week of February and all were negative It made me wonder if Coronavirus showed up much earlier than we thought|1 CPAPs need water that is free of minerals more than they need water that is sterile Mine builds up mineral flakes in the humidifier tank if I run tap water for a couple of weeks and it takes multiple soaks in vinegar to dissolve them and clean it outIMO its no big deal but many people prefer to run something thats as expensive and medically necessary as a CPAP by the letter of the manual just in case And there may be models out there that are more difficult to clean and maintain than mine so maybe vinegar soaks are not an option for everyone|1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200216 131310 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202002162013131020UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsexe552coronavirusfaqmisconceptionsinformationfromafgabhqzcontext32 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Fexe5522Fcoronavirusfaqmisconceptionsinformationfroma2Ffgabhqz2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020021620133A133A1020UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120exe552InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Wait Contagion or Outbreak I thought Outbreak was the movie where sheother female CDC character not Kate stuck her finger|0 Reselling products without paying sales tax comes to mind Hoarding is illegal in emergencies as well 100000k profit that probably needs to be taxed or claim as a company or something|1 I have never been to China I live hundreds of miles away from the closest case but I have a stuffy nose better die|0 Taiwannews is not reliable at all Its like Daily Mail levels of unreliable|1 Every day that goes by makes me slightly more convinced that I live in a simulation|1 No government wants people to be watching other people drop dead in the street theyll quarantine everywhere eventually for this reason alone|0 Even in the 7080 age group the casualty rate of the virus is only 15 though So its not going to wipe out most of the demographicEdit my number was wrong its only 8 for the 7079 age group the 15 is for the 80 group|0 Exactly FarmProcessingPackingTransportGrocery Store Any one of the dominos dont fall you dont get your goods Which means not only the people who work those operations need to work but their support structure needs to work For instance you cant have all these trucks on the road with out mechanics to fix them|1 This immediately made me crave the salmon tacos at a local restaurant here Its salmon and pico in a hard shell taco with lime chipolte sauce drizzled over it YumI am ready miss it|1 I misplaced my real account and this is my stupid one but Im a public defender Im going to probably lose my job soon because Im not going in In the Internet age I dont need to Ive been telling every officer I encounter that jails need to be secured they dont even need to bother with minor in and out of jail offenses and they all need PPE They should refuse to work if they dont get it Its not like a bunch of people all severely sick at the same time will do anyone any good anywayIve got the supplies I aim not to be a burden to the healthcare system PeriodEdit If shit REALLY FUCKING HITS THE FAN and Im needed to maintain power or something Ill try to help in the scary outside|0 I entertained what would happen if someone got infected at my workplace I work in a residential setting for people with physical mental disabilities I think if a resident was showing signs of sickness and went to the doctor they wouldnt push for a CV test And if by some chance they did get a test I think they would tell the staff it was the flu because they dont want people to be afraid to work and if a staff caught it they wouldnt want to pay the Workmans comp|0 He is overweight not obese Go tell that to US|0 In fact as WHO recommends unless you are in a Wuhan coronavirus hotspot there is NO NEED to wear any protective gear If more people had ignored that piece of advice perhaps we wouldnt have a global spread now|0 F without respect|0 You guys are so fucked government wont protect you need to protect yourselves at this point|0 Love this guy|1 One hopes none I mean Americans can be a bit backwards sometimes but Im not sure I truly believe that wed reach a point where were shooting our neighborsThing is that if we were willing to shoot them wed also be willing to just stay away from them I dont see this being the kind of situation where our neighbors are going to be trying to force their way onto our property COVID19 is overall very mild it might be very frightening but the vast majority of people who are ill are just going to be a little ill Theyre not going to be on deaths door clawing for help at the first person to see them|0 Throughout the middle ages and into the 20th century most of the European world agreed that Jews constituted a distinct nation This concept of nation does not require that a nation have either a territory nor a government but rather it identifies as a nation any distinct group of people with a common language and culture Only in the 19th century did it become common to assume that each nation should have its own distinct government this is the political philosophy of nationalism In fact Jews had a remarkable degree of selfgovernment until the 19th century So long as Jews lived in their ghettos they were allowed to collect their own taxes run their own courts and otherwise behave as citizens of a landless and distinctly secondclass Jewish nationOf course Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism is a religion and it is this religion that forms the central element of the Jewish culture that binds Jews together as a nation It is the religion that defines foods as being kosherhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjewishdietarylawskashrut and nonkosher and this underlies Jewish cuisine It is the religion that sets the calendarhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgthejewishcalendar of Jewish feast and fast days and it is the religion that has preserved the Hebrewhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgthehebrewalphabetalephbet languageIs Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism an ethnicity In short not any more Although Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism arose out of a single ethnicity in the Middle East there have always been conversionshttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgconversionjewishvirtuallibrary into and out of the religion Thus there are those who may have been ethnically part of the original group who are no longer part of Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism and those of other ethnic groups who have converted into JudaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaismIf you are referring to a nation in the sense of race Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism is not a nation People are free to convert into Judaismhttpswwwjewishvirtuallibraryorgjudaism once converted they are considered the same as if they were born Jewish This is not true for a raceNot all Jews are Israeli but they would be eligible for Israeli nationalityMaybe youd prefer TribeBut crack on anyway|1 just do what you think youve got to do unfortunately you need to focus on yourself at this point|0 Yeah no worries Ive been worried about all of you guys Not many of us though are back I think I got sent back to the office because I was late waking up to work from home last Friday hah It is nice to be out and seeing people even if its always at a distance and with masks but Im still worried about the consequences|0 Im trying Ive been prepared for months since it broke out in China|0 Yes luckily hes in a relatively lowrisk group I say relatively because its a pretty nasty disease at most ages except for young kids for whatever reason|1 Aww poor thinggood thing its healthy now|0 Indeed the unspecific effects whatever they are maybe general immune activation DCTB cell priming might support it I was just responding here to the person above me who postulated that these viruses might look similar enough so that an adaptive immune response against one could also crossreact with the other|1 Yeah but the more recent new ones are from the US|1 Planning to take an early vacation as soon as next week destination a desert somewhere enjoy sunbathing sand and no flu|0 This is a really great point to make the virus in the way the media talks about it isnt a single entity that mutates in concert I feel like a lot of laypeople outside science and medicine have that misconception about how this works|1 Vatican officials refused to comment on whether Pope Francis has been tested for coronavirusWell if they arent willing to come clean about millions of cases of systemically enabling priests to rape boys over the course of several centuries all over the world how can we expect them to let us know if the Pope has Coronavirus|0 Vietnam too They got ahead of the curve with that PSA and people being careful Small measures are so important|1 Flu champion of the century|1 He has proposed suspending the payroll tax for every American for the rest of the year Why no mention Presumably his detractors are free to reject the tax cut if they deem it idiotic|0 No I dont believe so If youa re referring to the Lancet paper the median duration from admission to death was 7 days|0 So I have inlaws in Shanghai and they arent telling that story They say there is no panic we did see them outside over skype but the streets are empty masks are being rationed because no one can keep them in stock and markets wont let you in without a mask anymore People are not being kept inside forcefully but most restaurants and all tourist areas and group gatherings are closed food delivery is serving hospitals only afaik They did not seem to be panicked its just this low level stress of what next combined with extreme boredom|0 Stay safe If thats possible in that line of work |1 Thank you English is not my first language Ill change it immediately|0 He is not complaining He literally posted the official notice telling people not to spread the new Probably wasted my time typing thoI know you are a chinese bot|0 Me too but its better to wait and see how the virus reacts to the heat in Greece|1 Funny because all the chinese people i knew in school constantly lied by cheating Every Single Won|1 All FFs take note on her MEGG|0 Big government You mean lack of governing Watch other countries how they handle this Lack of trying if there is no monetary gain is the capitalistic way|0 I also feel if he tested positive panic would skyrocket ten fold|1 Giving your life in the face of disease and trying to help people I dont know anything about this guy but sounds like one of the many heros there to me|1 I laughed and upvoted but a whistleblower is more likely|1 Sorry youre blaming this on journalistsTrump is the person who cut funding for pandemic response Blame Trump and his enablers his votersedit Snopes article that confirms Trump fired the pandemic response teamhttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpfirepandemicteam|0 Yeah they arrested tons of people for sharing information Theyre going to keep doing that during and after the virusThe guy who got arrested said they all need to rise up I agree Im wondering how you could possibly rise up purely online|1 i love this comment|1 Dont lump doctors and nurses together Thats like a Tball player and professional baseball player|1 Gather solid evidence hard facts then post a new top level posting when you can|1 True I feel like I scared my coworkers enough last week that they at least started thinking about stocking up over the weekend|1 You could make a million sound arguements about why AIDSHIV isnt anything like the Corona VirusInstead youre chosing to say its because we cant medicate against it like we can with AIDSHIV which is fucking hilarious to meAdditionally someone spreading any Illness is fucking evil period Corona Virus kills the elderly and the weak dont try to say its not as bad as people spreading AIDS when its literally the same fucking thing at the end of the day|0 I reckon this will all change early this week It has to right Please tell me Im right|1 Please do You might not want to tell us the names but general qualification|1 If it was intentionally collapsed they would have waited til more than 70 were in it|0 because the economic backlash from seeing the numbers spike so much in so little time was incredible and it happened in just a few days its from wednesday that newspapers have been saying it was an error to do so much testing because after all it is just a flu some right wing ones were asking for our pm to resign because he created too much panic by going on tv too often during the very first daysnow it seems that some sort of equilibrium was found it was right to test and tell the true numbers from the start but lets get back to work it might not be just like a flu but more like a harsher flu Thats the current narrative you can find on tv and newspapersthis is the level of our old schizofrenic traditional news sources|0 Oh so now were trusting the Chinese govt again|1 They just dont want to say its a pandemic because then they wont get more people to invest in their weird insurance scheme|0 Most country would be fuck especially places like America with a huge conspiracy base or a huge economic displacement|0 Im surprised there havent been any cases yet in DC or Atlanta Those are huge hubs for foreign travel|1 i am basketball nba fans hope they are not seriousthe nba works again|1 Yeah You can go to Utah and buy a literal 15 room mansion for 500k Its insane|0 Just to play devils advocate how else would one explain a patient getting sick then getting better then getting sick again with only a single infection point|0 So what the virus came from China It wasnt created by the CCP and theyre fighting this shit off as everyone else in the world Stop trying to blame a entire country for something that noone can control Being aggressive at this moment wont help anyone We need to stick together to walk out of this situation as fast as possible|0 This is meaningless for 2019nCoV at this time Most of those who havent died of 2019nCoV are still infected so they might still die while all those who didnt die of SARS are alive|0 Well swine flu was about as severe as a regular seasonal flu and is actually notable for not being notably more dangerous to elderly unlike other influenza virus strains or coronoviri Which may be part of the the reason why the initial response to the COVID19 was pretty tepid by many they remembered the panic over swine flu that didnt amount to any great catastrophe and assumed whats currently happening is just more of the same|0 i guess that at least 1billion will care|1 Yep but the implication that it is definitely tending towards the women as the pregnant woman in the movie wouldnt have been so sought after otherwise I cant recall if there was any seeking out the father as being special At least thats the implication that ends up occurring because of the way they altered it but youre rightits just global human infertility|1 Yeah The most common symptom is a sky high fever that doesnt respond well to nsaids|1 Now Im just waiting for them to cancel the LA Marathon|0 Do your own disaster umm doorknob|0 He clearly says its too late|1 Its also people with other health conditions one of the doctors from italy said that heart attacks have gone from being assessed in a few minutes to an hour A lot more people are going to die from noncoronavirus emergencies too and it sucks|0 Yes I read it I shared it in another comment Here is the linkhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffa2tfTestimonyofasurgeonworkinginBergamo2CintheheartofItaly27scoronavirusoutbreak5Btranslationincomments5Dfjx5tc8utmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare for those interested|1 You described it so well |1 The death by percentage of patients is already at least 10x higher than the flu|0 He literally begged the federal government to tell him what to do and Trump said no|0 You only work 3 out of 4 days a week Do you use a different calendar than everyone else lmao|1 Thank you|1 Wait youre saying SOMETHING is BETTER than NOTHING|1 Testing is key to gauge spread rate because you can be asymptomatic or mild symptoms like a dry cough and still spread Things people would go walk around with Finding how fast cases with symptoms are popping up and from what regions can also help see if theres hot spots and find carriers|1 Thank you for these updates following from the UK Interesting to see how little the media is actually reporting numbers wise Theyre hiding quite a bit all over|1 But if people have time to storage food then the problem will be partially relief and also the companies that provide food will have time to increase suply|1 This is a great resource to consolidate the data across provinces but just keep in mind all of these numbers come from official government press releases so if Ontario is late on the release this site has no special secret information|1 The median time from illness onset to hospital release was 22 days and the average time from onset to death was 185 dayshttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003oldagesepsistiedpoorcovid19outcomesdeathPlus people spread it before symptomatic meaning they spread it the day they got it or the day after or following days until symptoms appear Were actually not super sure about this We act like its true because its safer that way Ive seen everything from very little chance of transmitting when asymptomatic to transmitting during the 2448 hours before symptom onset to just as contagious the whole time|0 You know the point of washing your hands is to physically wash away germs right Not using friction to kill viruseshttpswwwcdcgovhandwashingshowmethesciencehandwashinghtml|0 It seems that and I cant confirm just going based on numbers Ive seen Which we all know probably arent that accurate just go with me here another large chunk of Suspected Cases got moved over to Confirmed today under the new guidelinesSuspected dropped by about 3100 If we assume most of those are now clinically confirmed that would put brand new cases at 2k or a little under|0 Shouldnt be too hard for people who already perform well Its the showhorses smiley gladhands and office BSers who would have a problem|1 So funny how frivolous things were and many now Good for you I am not a hippy but love does conquer all|0 Wrong The Left trying to politicize it like they do with everything just look at this board as proof is the hoax The infection rate is still minuscule compared to the US population Meanwhile the Left is hoping for it to turn into a catastrophe|0 Considering that about half of Chinas new cases are imported from places like Italy and Iran travel bans definitely help even after community transmission starts|1 Dude do you understand Chinese Its about the research confirming bats as the natural host of corona virus type not a new breed of virus This information is readily available in China too calm with the conspiracy|1 Sweden has only 2 deaths thoThey are focusing heavily in taking care of those who need itNot saying its perfect bit its not like were letting people die without a damn aboutDunno about UK tho|1 The US is a joke No testing no support of any kind|1 Thats why drive through testing is so important|1 Philadelphia here We are very dense so the minute that something comes here its just going to get bad very quickly I would imagine the city would institute a basic lockdown of all nonessential personnel Pretty much what Italy is doing|0 Didnt you know The only known cure for the virus is to ream it with legal docs|1 I agree|1 if you mean the famous oneits Wuhanstay strongalong with singing may not be recordedPeople were bored and lonely After experts suggesting its not safe to do sothey stopped doing that|0 Yeah the no iceberg thing is very scary as are his statements that many more people will die proportionally to China as China has become very good at keeping people alive Not everywhere has ventilators and advanced medical equipment|0 Based on my readings and being on these subs and following this from some of the first communications about it I think we have another 60 days before we know how bad its going to get The China infection probably started in November or even earlier They began identifying the pneumonia cases in hospital and the Drs started discussing it in early December when they were silenced by CCP The market got shut down Jan 1 So it was passing along for a while before it got to unmanageable statusIF you think about the numbers and percentages there may have to be 100 or more infections before one of them gets serious to need hospital care Say that one person doesnt get diagnosed properly More time goes by Which has happened hereAll throughout each day more and more people are becoming infected Now a case hits the hospital and gets diagnosed At a minimum there are 5 or 6 others out there with it More likely its a few hundred because even though we know 20 percent require medical care its not guaranteed that those 20 percent are going to show up out of the first or every 100 Its just overall Now the r0 becomes important Since each person is on AVERAGE spreading it to 2 or 3 people Add in the super spreading events Like the nursing home and potentially the fire station and hospital in caliSo now we have people walking around for quite a while spreading it before they got quarantined 100s or 1000s The bug can take anywhere from a few days to 20 days before symptoms start In 10 days the doubling of a single spreading event can hit 100k I think probably much slower here in the states The population that is out and about may also be healthier so infected people may go through the whole cycle never knowing they were infected Im no scientist but I think that based on the new report from the gene sequence from WA and the timing we are entering the tip of the iceberg stage The same as China in early December when the doctors started to see hospital cases That means that things are going to gradually pick up steam from now for 3 to 4 more weeks before shit gets really bad China broke ground on the hospitals Jan 24th Thats when things were going crazy and still getting worse So it took 2 to 3 months for everything to hit critical mass over there It could be 6 months for a similar intensity to appear hereOur 1st world infrastructure and advance notice along with targeted quarantines will probably slow things down We wont really know what we are dealing with for another 2 months Then we will have enough data and infection cycles to understand how it acts hereIt is way too early to be making any predictions about being out of the woods|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Youd think the country that headquarters the WHO would have been better prepared|1 Im taking it very seriously but I still dont think that governments should be shutting down entire countries|0 Yea I recognize this and completely agree its just a large portion of people want straight facts so I tried to keep it as numbers and facts as possible|1 Who are you addressing this to I have yet to see an instance of people in panic over this|0 Normalcy bias is very real I started rpandemicpreps so people can come together anonymously on reddit and discuss prepping Or as anonymously as you can be these days I dont understand people who dont prepare Its like they live in a fantasy world where nothing bad can go on|1 Damn thats bad it could spread far and wide all thanks to this cult |0 Please excuse the grammatical and spelling mistakes I was using voice to text as I viewed your question essential to answer as quickly as possible Stay healthy stranger big internet hugs|1 Immunity helps out too Im pretty sure if you get it once and recover you are good so if we slow down infections then hopefully everyone with it will recover Right now everyone is fresh meat but once time passes people either develop immunity recover or the vaccine gets developed All we can do right now is contain the virus and make sure we can handle the amount of people infected We are unable to treat everyone at once so trying to space out the Infections can help the healthcare system catch up|1 They really dont give a shit Most of the local governors and mayors do actually seem to be doing the right thing But truth be told the Federal Government simply was lead absolutely horribly and the President wasis not convinced its particularly serious Im sure that the good folks over at CDC were screaming their heads off months ago but we ALL know that President Trump is not exactly the most attentive person when it comes to things he doesnt like to hearNow having long since fucked it up their reaction is to go off to a corner and golf solo And from the 12th fairway its so very calm and tranquil you can almost forget and isnt that really the pointSo when youre forced to go back to work on Tuesday and people start yelling at you that someone should do something all you really want to do is go back to the greens and try out that new 3iron|0 Ill attest to that too A friend has a grandfather with no end to his work ethic Cant sit down in the day for more than half an hour always finding work to do with farming mechanical woodworking whatever he can find The guy is 83 and still climbs wagons like a kid in a playhouse I know hes at risk still but hes gotta have some kind of resistance to it lol maybe hed just will the virus away|1 Well Its what my dad sounds like when wasted which he has been for 30 years Just angrier and more boganSeems to me alcoholic brain damage in a 50 year old may be akin to dementia in a 70 year old I guess brain scan comparisons would be the better judgment though|0 Who cares about the people|1 I remember 2 or 3 weeks ago someone mentioning how the CDC was the best in the world and that the US was well prepared because of this I guess Hollywood did do a great job at portraying them in a good light|1 Exactly I SHOULD be fine but I have a little brother whos around 3 and had a bunch of health complications around his birth he gets sent to the hospital for the normal flu and Im fucking scared for him because I dont want anything to happen to him|0 Ive realized in the past couple days this sub has no interest in being realistic its just about fear mongering|0 China has been testing all kinds of antivirals I dont know what the news is but there are for sure drugstreatments that are better than nothing|1 Not OP but my Aunt is a nurse at Sunnybrook and theyve been on high alert since end of December WHO gives dailyweekly reports of any elevated reports of pathogensincreased hospitalizations They were already on full alert for influenza and have special protocols for those traveling from Africa Ebola like symptoms and China SARS like symptoms They have been on top of this and watching disease models all month Since we are in flu season precautions were already being undertakenShe told me not to worry even if this is more serious than SARS the global response this time around has been infinitely more proactive|1 Fuck this guy|0 Your other option is to go to the supermarket though touch a dirty button on a credit card machine etc|0 Im in an infected zone |0 Ill give you 4000 Vote for me|0 Yeah my dad But he dead |0 Emotionally healthy person heard froms|1 Same In general virus or not we have to have more general cleanliness and be mindful of others around us and how our presence affects our surroundings For example if you are sure that there is a feeling of getting sick cold flu WHATEVER wear a mask and avoid going in public when you can Its small things practiced in daily life that prepare us for events like this more effectively and give us preexisting knowledge on sanitization and hygiene|1 I was just making a post about this lol I posted a very unpopular opinion on the subreddit for cincy People have their head in the sand It wont affect them until it affects them|1 lol|1 Most people will get it sooner or later Leaving factories open will still allow some spread but the other closures should hopefully dampen it|1 Where I live its not that they dont give a shit they just believe everything they hear and see from the administration and Fox News A couple at a local shop didnt care at all until they heard the death rate was ten times higher than the flu and that the NCAA banned fans for March MadnessWell hell if the NCAA is turning down money it must be bad|0 Thank you for helping remind us of the people who are just trying to get by in this mess|1 The Chinese Communist Party is fighting very hard to remove the association between China and Coronavirus especially in the gaming communityBoth CCP games and Blizzard are removing and renaming guilds and alliances as well as well as player named structures for reminding people of the association|1 Never said it did Im saying its the same attitude And Europe and the EU have been used interchangeably I know the difference but thanks for the lesson you turnip smelling angry pedant|0 Dont fear monger please its already bad enough in the news|0 That is good|1 Unlike a hurricane you dont have to worry about the power going out Therefore stocking up on a variety of food should be simple depending on how much refrigerated space you have For me worst case scenario i would want to avoid human contact for as long as possible I would make sure I have at least two weeks of prescription medicine at all times A good supply of over the counter medicines including any first aid kits they may be needed As far as food goes I would stock up on a wide variety Foods so you can mix up the meals youre having everyday Since you have power you can freeze a lot of perishables so really its just a matter of what your tastes are|1 Reddit We cured cancer COVID19Ok reddit Tell me how we didnt cure cancer this timeWhat exotic machinery not found in any other part of the world does this test rely on|0 and 1 fatality at this pointIn their late seventies and eightiesSo far in the below 70 group about 300 there werent any deaths About 35 ish in serious condition from all ages|0 I love the Italian spirit |1 Chongqing Chengdu and Kunming are my favorite cities in China for sure|1 Changed the music Hope you arent disappointed now|1 Fuck off man You got mental issues Go sort it out Maybe you needed more hugs as a kid Dunno but its sick|0 Yeah I think I had it one other time as an adult and maybe once as a kid I couldnt freakin believe it after the second swab in January came back that way Flu B was worse IMO but they both sucked a lot and felt like early stage death It was January and in Charleston SC so I shouldnt have made the joke to the poor nurse but I looked at her dead pan as she took the swab and casually said so I just got back from my travels around the Wuhan province Poor ladys eyes got so big before I laughed and clarified I was kidding I deeply regret my dark humor in hindsight|0 12 rental properties and not super rich Pick one you cant be both|0 Look Ive been isolating myself in my apartment for weeks now Havent gone to any public places or had anyone over But I still go on a walk in the middle of the night like always I walk straight out my door and come into contact with no one I touch nothing I dont even see another living soul Yet I still wash my hands when I get back in just for good measure If anything I think what Im doing is almost certainly overkill Whats your argument that I should stop doing that If youve got a compelling reason Id love to hear it|1 I expect that some of the first diagnosed would be severe cases so I dont find it so odd|0 I think the idea of minimizing risk is key I start thinking theres no way I can clean everything and never come into contact with people any of those times could get me sick But the key is that the risk is REDUCED Everytime I wash my hands every time I dont touch my face all helps Its incremental|0 Consider that many elderly cant drive anymore and depend on either public transportation or getting a ride from a friend or family member who usually comes only once a week or every two weeks They live on very limited incomes and arent able to just prepare the way we can Knock on doors offer rides for free or offer to go for them or even just take them some food and supplies Also dont forget to check on them Either call once a day or talk to them through the door to make sure they are ok|1 definitely all things that describe virus patients yes|1 From my understanding they filter viruses which are smaller than 3 microns by using essentially static electricity which will lose a charge over time As well as the rubber straps degrade over time and are at risk of breaking while you are wearing them|0 What No it wont You doomers are fucking ridiculousEdit If the CFR in the US iswas 10 either when this is over or January 1 2021 whichever comes first I will send uwhiskeysausage 50 USDEdit 2 good keep downvotinghttpsikymcdncomphotosimagesnewsfeed000954323394jpg|1 I love how you left out South KoreaThese 3 nations combine for 80 million people Please tell me what measures these nations have taken are impossible to scale to America We dont need to perfectly replicate their success to make a huge dent in the growth of this virus|1 While rChinaFlu is less strict about unsourced speculation than other some coronavirusrelated subreddits making extraordinary especially alarming or potentially harmful claims without substantiation may result in the removal of your post or commentRepeated infractions of this rule will result in a permanent ban|0 You need to prove the treatment reduces disease length symptoms and viral loadShouldnt be hard to prove since most patients have been reported to test negative after like 4 days|0 Your right I shouldnt underestimate NK|1 Nasty question question that he doesnt know how to answer|0 You make a lot of good points Thank you |1 Il Giornale is very different from Libero Feltri is from Bergamo and has been considered somehow a controversial journalists in the past but trustworthy I agree but most days hes now just bashing people on TwitterI tend to agree with uJackBeauregard that a liberalismoriented trustworthy newspaper would be Il FoglioLets not forget that Libero being mostly openly antiIslam published the famous article Islam evolves from burqa to muzzle that later revealed to be fake news That article was also bought by The Daily Mail to be published in the UK|1 or a shill in either case thanks for the heads up|1 I really hope we keep with the local and state control setup|1 Yes its outrageous I work and am a career for someone with chronic heart failure am at risk of losing my job as feel its more important to isolate now than to risk someone else Am sick of all this talk of its only the elderly as if they dont matter|0 Seems that theyve reached some consensus about it httpswwwvgnonyheterinnenriksi50445Eregjeringenaapnerforakuttsosialhjelptilfrilansereognaeringsdrivende|1 Im curious with 0 understanding in remote operation of machinery and selfoperating machines whats realistically the cost difference Like if an AI built your car vs a guy using 5g to build your car is there any reason to go to the remote tech tree excuse my lazy usage of the word|1 How could something the entire nation is desperate for worsen the markets|0 Reading between the lines international airlines across the globe appear to be making their next concerted move People are refusing to board planes with Chinese tourists and some are being grounded at terminals because of incidents on board That cant be good for their industry|0 Thank you prayers and good vibes are always appreciated I will say a prayer for your son and family as well |1 Take care buddy you are right Im probably leaving university tomorrow gonna prep at the local Carrefour with my parents and leave for Paris to bring my sister homeAfter that its hibernation time|1 Please help me to understand What is the logic behind this USSR was hiding the truth about Chernobyl mostly because they sold a lot nuclear reactors to other countries and they didnt want to tell everyone the reactors are very dangerous plus internal propaganda about the best soviet technologies In my understanding But why China hides real numbers and real situation in Wuhan What will happen if they officially says the real numbers are 2510 times higher I assume intelligent services in other countries have already knowledge about the real numbers and the truth will not shock west governments|1 What about using a drivethru Are those still running I feel like those are pretty safe The driver doesnt touch anything outside of their car besides the food|1 masks do nothing ffs|1 Ill believe it when I see it|0 Birmingham is house to one of the most advanced medical research hospitals in the country|1 if this is true and it seems too detailed not to bebut hey this is reddit so you never knowbut i hope that someone that makes decisions is reading this and starts to make some changes quick|1 How can people not dying be the worst news yet in any logical scenario|0 No I dont But you do sound truly uninformed If you dont know the FACT And that foreign factions are planted on social media forum sites particularly in times of global unrest do some research Also You should know that this user from Wuhan copied and pasted the exact same story in Chinaflu subreddit under a different username Do your homework|1 I think I had coronavirus on at the beginning of February I had a fever of 392 for a couple of days followed by a very strange burning sensation in chest dry cough for another 3 days and then passedI called NHS 111 but policy was to only flag people whod been to Hubei province or interacted with someone that hadEdit Im a hypocondriac so I didnt take it further after I started feeling better|1 Going to the ER to be tested when ordered by your PCP Will the ER visit be free|1 I am a legal expert myself Yes The state of emergency gives the government special powers The art 116 of the constitution grants great powers to the government under catastrophic events waretcThe are 3 levels The level 1 the light one state of alarm was the one implementedIt can last only 15 days but can be extended by the congressAmong the things that this state allowsTaking over by the fed government of every administration can limit freedom of movement if needed rationing of fist need goodstake any measure to assure the production of first need goodstemporally take over private companies and property and take control of its staff not homesAs a result all private and public hospitals have been put under a government single command hotels can be taken to reconversion into hospitalssome medical items to be delivered within 48h to the governmentprivate companies with medical production capabilities has to report within 48h to the government its capabilityOnce the special state ends companies can ask for money|1 You are entitled to your gut reaction but we should be grateful you or people who think like you arent in charge of hospitals|1 Thanks you too We just got a notice from the schools They are watching the news for info on the virus 8 weeks too late|1 Yeah Im sure when this hits the biggest homeless population in the country the people without jobs will be grateful for their paid sick leave California aint all sunshine and rainbows|1 Red dead 2 that will keep you occupied for like 5 months|0 Cant see the actual designIf someone finds it please list it here httpsforumawesystemsinfotprojectlist1230httpsforumawesystemsinfotprojectlist1230|1 I wish Japan had balls like China|1 No worries I think this particular post adds to your point that he was just a normal guy with a great sense of humour|1 Wouldnt it be something if this ushered in an era of the mask being a fashion accessory in the West haha|1 CFR is a shit number too much factors affects it like demography distribution level of health care numerous underlying conditions and most of all testing capabilities and progression of cases We cant draw any conclusions from it|1 If say between like 50 people and 5 million have it there roughly I know because of all the testing data that doesnt exist|1 Corbyn is resigning and is waiting for the next leader to take over hes basically disappeared from the limelight so I wouldnt even count him as an opposition leader|0 That mostly applies to people within a country Asia is really too big for that to work Sometimes Koreans or Japanese can be recognized because they dress or act in an unusual way or sometimes someone just looks so Thai because they have super Siamese looking eyes or something but in general its not like that for Asia imo|0 Oh the preppers will never let us forget about the covid of 19 My dad is strutting around like a preppin peacock|1 Wouldnt that be something if everyone that talked shit about this being bullshit got sick|0 I know this guy he plays fighting games M Bison can only wish he was as much of a dictator as Kim Jong Un|1 And now someone has died in my county|0 Is going to be responsible for a lot of deaths in his own country|1 Rock the duck on immigrants I hate trump even more now|0 We lol At this point we can blame our governments even though it does seem many Americans dont give a shit anyways|1 They could have started doing something a couple months ago that wouldnt have been that hard|0 Where the hell did you get 7 million deaths from|0 American here Might have had COVID Will never know Symptoms too similar to common cold Not a demographic it hits hard Not willing to pay for testing Not enough to take time from work to self quarentine For something I dont have an easy way to confirm I do or do not have I was not the first sick But it has a long incubation period and you are contagious still So who knows I was in contact with someone recently in China This is the result of the system they have created We will not know until it is too widespread to stop Because we are not paid enough Cannot take time off work And cannot afford to go to doctor just to check when it is not severe I would like to stay home to protect others But I cant afford that|1 No This is on par with war profiteering in my book|0 Thanks|1 I have a flight to NY from France the 1st of May and the hotel wont allow us to have a reimbursement because the lockdown measure set by Trump is until the 30th of April one day differenceDo you know if this new measure in NY will apply for longer|0 yep the username checks out for common sense too|1 Your mom is so fat she is illegal in Austria|0 Maybe Im reading into this too much but the thing that hit me the hardest as an american is when the leader of the country answers a reporter by saying he takes no responsibility for the lag in testing that has brought us to this point|0 This isnt a replacement for social distancing though There is not really a safe way to be around an infected person|0 No cases because they are not testing|0 Add Greta Thunberg into that after all its the earth who benefits the most|1 Thank you Johns Hopkins|1 Oh Im fully aware just thought Id point out the lip service the tweet was giving us the companies dont care|0 Cite a source for that The only inpatient locations in most hospitals with ventilators are operating rooms and ICUs note that an ER is an outpatient ward If the serious patient is on a vent theyd be an ICU patient in any western hospital I guess if you have shortness of breath they will put you on a ventilatorDont guess Uninformed speculation doesnt advance the conversation|0 Yeah but if we are quarantined with our families we need booze too|1 They want an incubator to see how well their population control virus is working|1 This is the worst example of healthcare workers failing to protect themselves They should have been in PPE As a virologist this is crazy The only PPE was on the patient Thats not how PPE works Several questions How did the PPE get on that patient Was the outside of the PPE contaminated That entire facility needs to be considered contaminated including surfaces and people in there should be assumed to be infectious Did the EMTs and paramedics go in there like that I hope not This is crazy to me We are going to have so many healthcare worker infections|0 You may want to use something other than circles because it appears that at least for the Chicago area it may be a bit misleading The first two cases took place at a hospital in Hoffman Estates and two other cases were treated in a hospital in Arlington Heights which are both nowhere even near the circle It doesnt cover even the north side of Chicago which has had a case as well|0 The article clear says Confirmed in UK|1 Disgusting government|0 People have done more research into Christopher Nolan movies after coming back from the theater than a virus capable of infecting a million people on this planet|1 You are right Czech Republic also banned direct flights to Chinahttpswwwpraguemorningczczechgovernmentbansdirectflightstochina|0 LA is crawling with this If you go out like somewhere to the grocery store everyone is coughing They are not quarantining or testing enough|1 But one side is saying we need to do more to prevent it while the other side is saying were doing a great job Worst case scenario if we listen to that first side fewer people die but the economy gets worseWorst case if we listen to the other side millions die economy absolutely collapsesWhy is there even a debate|0 You too friendMake sure to prevent Wish all of you and your family|1 This number seems to NOT report any private sector testing done by LabCorp and Quest each with a reported capacity of 70k samples daily 5 days ago and reports sample count not person count Guidelines suggest taking 34 samples from each patient|1 its possible that the virus has mutated in different strands look at iran and Italy vs korea definitely a difference|1 Weve concluded that there isnt a reasonable way to prevent infection between family members within the homeOur goal is to do our best not to bring it home and be prepared to treat ourselves at home if we become sick|1 Ive heard so much coughing recently at first I assumed it was because I was being hyper aware but Im not so sure anymore The amount of people coughing is extreme|0 I read A Journal of the Plague Year Daniel Dafoe 1665 back in February Its 400 years old but it could have been written yesterday Nothing about humanity has changed but our technology and understanding of the sciences We still gloss over application of pragmatism and hover somewhere between denial and quackery God help us this year|1 All of us have a superiority complex Not a severe one but still|1 So great Thank you|1 previous experience in the region with weatherrelated social distancing and in other countries suggests to us that current efforts will likely land between baseline and 25 reduction scenariosI would like to see more information about the prediction of less than 25 reduction in social distancing since that appears to play such a significant role in the destined mortality numbers Nationally social distancing is getting a lot of attention so it would be helpful to know what has and hasnt worked and why not in King and Snohomish counties|1 Thats very true I cant imagine the stress this is going to put on life for people|1 Its all about flattening the peak which we are not even attempting to do We are taking the two most effective methods for flattening the peak Washing hands correctly Self Isolating if you show symptoms Social distancing will only be effective if everyone does it and its sustained throughout the whole epidemic Given its likely to last months starting now means fatigue will cause people to ignore social distancing right when the peak of the epidemic hits that isnt what we want is it|1 Spoke to my boss he is really against it Says will require 2 week quarantine upon return before commencing work again Looks like im cancelling for sure but its for the best Thanks all for the replies|1 experts in my country called Italians stupid because they are destroying their country the Netherlands I try to be above emotional responses in this crisis because its counter productive and stupid but damn i felt very angry for a short while|0 Im in at at risk group with lung problems so I am taking this more seriously than anything everI do think a lot of people arent though and thats what bothers me The people who dont care The people who think wash hands isnt for them because they did them 8 hours ago You stay safe tooI have always had a tendancy to make inappropriate comments|0 Shit|0 Yes they doNope no problems at all about that|0 You dont need to join a team I never do Just close that window and let the BOINC client run itll automatically pick up tasks and workunits as they are assigned to your machine|0 Exactly right There are experts in the field who are telling us what to do Our political leaders need to listen to them and take it seriously All of us doWhen public health officials keep harping on unsexy things like basic hand hygiene and flu shots we as citizens need to heed that|1 Have you gone to get tested They test people with symptoms Who do you want them to test If they test everyone then the positive test rate will be so slow and defeat the purpose|1 I wasnt disagreeing with you I was just adding to your point and ranting|1 Its going to cost them moneyWhich means yeah this is a huge step for them And not unwelcome|1 Wondering what the loan payment is on just one of those huge cruise ships Must be tens of millions per month|1 Wasnt it Penthouse or Playboy that first broke the Watergate story Something like that I cant remember But Id imagine that something like Playboy could actually be a source for some excellent investigative journalism They dont need clickbait headlines or to pander to the audience thats what the rest of the magazinewebsitewhatever is for They could really have reporters spend months digging into a topic in a way that few entities with high readership could afford And the only requirement is that if they publish it it better be excellent reporting to be worth the space in the magazine|1 This is probably going to sound ridiculous but can we macgyver masks out of other materials ifwhen supplies run out Like tissue paper and clothing elastic|1 With a doubling rate somewhere between 510 days that means that out of 250000 Americans weve only had about 20 or so deaths That would be great news wouldnt it|1 Ok but what about 619|1 I dont personally expect you to do much of anything at all I hardly expect people like you to roll out of bed in the morning|1 Two weeks ago it was 15 going to zero according to Donald lol Now were in the thousands The virus grows exponentially From the latest statistics confirmed cases are doubling every 3 days in the US So in the next week it should have doubled twicehttpsourworldindataorgcoronavirushttpsourworldindataorgcoronavirus|1 I believe this as well|1 You got it Just as Trump tries to cover up the effects of climate change so that businessasusual may proceed as long as possible or just like he tries to cover up evidence in his bribery scandals in this case a coverup is initiated too|0 I hate this title|0 Its totally possible kids are really good at compensating We dont know the implications of this virus in children as they can older Its certainly possible they could develop reduce lung compliance asthma or fibrosis|1 Reply if you dont agree idk why you downvote this post|0 Yes in the age of the snowflake|1 The virus may already be here but theres no point in making the problem worse by adding fuel to the fire|0 At 57 most of the people I know are in jeopardy|0 I have older relatives in Italy and Im so worried about them Its also scary for older adults in America who mostly dont live as healthy of lifestyles who will die as a result this and a result of the government sitting around and twiddling their thumbs telling everyone this is all a hoax|0 No TP or bidet Try using a bucket of water a small cupbowl like in many depeloping countries|1 Hi is it true 14 of the 15 usa deaths are at the same nursing home|1 Next time Im forced to sit through a company lecture on LEAN and JIT is gonna be fucking interesting 20 of the room will likely have lost family as a result of such short sighted business practises Who the fuck applies such principles to PPE for critical care workers Sweden discovered now that they have run out of PPE or will shortly and unsurprisingly orders from abroad are unlikely to be filled They had 1 months to start solving this but no|0 There is no power when you have less ICU beds than patients that need them Respiratory machines are expensive and cant get a lot of themsame for doctors in a short period of timeHere we are going on without hope God I really need to read good news|0 No shit|0 HE SHOOK THAT GUYS FUCKING HANDS|0 Not true Theyve closed for hurricanes They closed on Irma they closed for Dorian I cant remember the others but those were the most recent ones|0 Great work|1 Nothing to see here just seasonal flu guys S|0 I like the way you think Costco also has a very and empty freezer section We can use them to feed people|1 What a great time to rob a bank|1 Im currently taking it day by day no cases in my sleepy market town yet The government need to balance keeping everything going as the economy imploding will also kill people in the long run Theyve a delicate balancing act to do I wish theyd close secondary schools at least though that should have minimal impact as those students mostly wouldnt need to be supervised Ive emailed my MP|0 God I bet that felt amaaazingly good|1 Yeah that is a good thing that they are able to identify the cases as soon as possible Denial of having the disease in the country will only make it worse|1 Case fatality rate ratio|0 I promise you were gonna hand you a really big check the biggest check ever|1 Finally some real words for real action Good man|1 I really appreciate this post Its really hard to have the right perspective Especially with so many things that are uncertain right now Corona virus seems worse but it very well could be something we look back on in a few years and see how it was serious but not as bad as it seemed when we were in the thick of it|1 So then who in the Federal Dept of Health and Human Services do you think should be tracking the situation nationally Surely somebody should be checking how many tests each state is doing the results and helping the Federal government to make informed decisions on its national policyIt seems like maybe some sort of Center that Controls Diseases would probably be the place|1 He died in an ECMO machine and was getting retroviral treatment too if I remember correctly they did not want him to die It is a public relations nightmare|0 It was good knowing you|1 Need to remember to put coronavirus as the champ when I fill out my bracket|1 Funny how that government run healthcare isnt working out too well for China right nowLike most rightwing Americans you have an extremely overinflated sense of selfworth when it comes to you or America Americas privatelyrun healthcare clusterfuck is the most expensive least efficient in the world Literally every other civilized country has better and cheaper healthcare with lower pregnancy mortality rates higher life expectancy etc etcThe next few weeks will showcase just how extremely bad the patchwork of the privateforprofit US healthcare system really is when people will start to die like flies because they cant afford care supply and demand will make prices skyrocket the ERs are overrun and people in rural areas cant travel two hours to the nearest hospitalWere going to wish we had the kind of healthcare every other decent country hasYour right about one thing though by the time this is all over the survivors will demand universal healthcare|0 Its like the old saying you have to be pretty smart to be this dumbSmart people are extremely good at coming up with plausiblesounding excuses to avoid believing things they find psychologically uncomfortable|1 But there are and still can be cash rewards for coming up with this stuff hell this could be an even greater system reward the scientists directly not the pharma companies|1 No zombie babies|0 I was asking what about it as an honest question not as a gotcha I genuinely dont remember H1N1 aside from being sent home from school|1 So many people are pretending to be science majors around here If you deal with cases over and over its going to mean more virus in your body and a worse case of corona|0 Thats karma for hiding all those sexual assault cases|0 I keep hearing about people being asked to come in without a mask or risk losing their jobs Dont ever quit let them fire you You qualify for unemployment then|0 masks are tough to get now no doubt but if youre coughing you should at least leave the house with some thick napkinspaper towels anything to keep from coughing into the air or your hand im just so annoyed at all the people just chilling and coughing in public places like this isnt happeningbut as to going out sick i totally disagree with you right now id absolutely stay home if i was feverishcoughing id even risk eviction for it the public risks are too great this isnt the flu|0 Doesnt explain why young kids predaycare age arent getting seriously ill|1 Jobs that require hand shaking are disgusting and yes Im that person that if you insist on initiating a handshake I immediately pull out hand sanitizer Anyway fingers crossed they get the virus|1 Fear mongering implies youre using fear to sell something As long as people arent suggesting drastic actions or taking advantage of the situation it isnt fear mongering its just fear|0 So if i need to leave NYC then its probably a good idea to leave before this Saturday then Just to avoid any potential domestic travel ban|0 You are such a kind soul Thank you I have done everything I can do at this point I am prepared even if I desperately wish I could protect my loved ones and also force them into quarantine Im doing mindless tasks for work so I put on some music to try to remind me of the life we had before all of this happened and am trying to just zone into the monotony It is helping|1 I ordered one earlier today for delivery on Wednesday I developed pneumonia after the flu 2 years ago and my O2 was 93 at admission I have a greater appreciation for an oximeter now Thank you for your thoughts Incredibly valuable|1 Indeed Based on what I have read if only 50 of a city of 1 million get infected the city will need 100000 ventilators|0 Second comment because fuck me My wife who isnt following this much hit the nail on the head when I mentioned this Why would you have a classified briefing on the virus if it is under control and theres no dangerous information|0 my guess is its already breaking Over the past 4 days incl today its CFR has been growing constantly its about 2 days from equalling or surpassing Wuhans CFR at this rate255 316 346 384|1 And now of the news of the gentleman and his daughter that got the bill for being in quarantine what was it 2500 people are not going to willingly go into quarantine and be out of work too Who can afford that And Ive also heard of people having to pay for their own test in the US Obviously thats in an area of the country where there actually Are these tests in existence and you can actually go through enough hoops to get yourself approved to get one for yourself or a loved one So many broken things hereHow can we make them right|1 Dont worry the stockpiled from the decade long record breaking bull market will support the less fortunate through the tough times|1 Seattle started preparing in January and they look like the epicenter of the outbreak because theyve actually been testinghttpswwwkuoworgstorieswhencoronavirusstruckseattlethislabwasreadytostarttesting|1 Thanks Im happy to help This thing is serious but its not a death sentence were trying hard to keep ahead of the hysteria|1 Yeah Im not doing so hot either|1 An entire apartment in Hong Kong was infected during the first SARS outbreak because of a single leaky pipe A month ago the HK gov evacuated another entire building after a leaky pipe was found and a case was confirmed The FecalOral route seems to be one of the main drivers of infection|0 I was just about to walk away from this when a crazy Aussie pointed out to me that the S02 data on windycom has a time stamp Its live data That data is not from a simulation based off conditions from the 90s Again you are are discrediting data that you do not understand|0 This sub was a little over 100k when I joined Saturday Each day Im surprised by the amount of growth|1 Give it about 811 days Im pretty sure you wont be alone I know theyre mainly for people who DO have it but symptoms dont show up immediately and I work at a grocery store in an area heavily populated by seniors It kinda feels like a no brainer to me Where the mask if you want Maybe dont hoard piles but yeah|1 Good for Korea|1 Im imagining an event planner thinking Ha They think they can stop me Ill only invite 999 people|0 That sign and strip mall location makes it look like a sleezy place from Bar Rescue|1 The hallucinations start out mild little movement out of the corner of your eye or still images moving a bit like theyre short animated gifs It eventually progresses to large things rushing at you from your peripheral and after that small dream sequences overlaying your visionreal things would transform into other things or move on their own and then snap back Worst I got was dreaming for extended periods while awake and it wasnt just vision my sense of self time place etc were all impacted I can lucid dream decently well and have other sleep issues so I have a pretty good handle on knowing whats real and whats not and it helps until the end stages The worst thing is maintaining awareness that youre dreaming and not being able to trivially reset wake up or maintain control like you normally do but youre also sitting up and awake It feels like a huge effort just to stop it and youre already exhausted I havent made it past that and I dont ever want to I assume its psychotic break territory|1 how bad is the spread of the Corona virus|0 Typical crabs in a bucket Fuck them she absolutely did the right thing|0 This is why everyone should wear a mask A lot of people will unknowingly have it and by the time they realize it they will already have probably spread it to random people not to mention people that they are in close contact with usuallyIn Hong Kong and other asian countries most of the population is wearing a mask when theyre in public started in earlymid Jan Although a good portion of the population in Hong Kong thinks itll protect them from being infected which it does to some extent the main purpose is to prevent it from spreading unknowingly which the general population in Hong Kong has done unintentionallyYou can see the infection rate of the virus in Hong Kong for the past few months and its been relatively stable I wouldnt say the government has been doing great There are still mask shortages for the general population and most people are reusing masks or hand made masks etc but at least most of the population are wearing it If we didnt then considering how the population is so dense in Hong Kong you would expect us to have many more cases by now|1 Agreed|1 Travel right now is irresponsible and should be stopped Meanwhile regardless of anything else we need to follow these simple steps to ensure this viral spread is slowed down enough our hospitals arent overwhelmedWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Yes Theyre planning to close for another 2 weeks|1 Lmao bfs friend posted a picture of two sanitizers and masks on his IG story and wrote Im rich Cracked me up On another note oof I checked ebay and people were bidding over 100 for a box of 1020 masks|1 I dont think our government has done anything wrong with the virus yet So far we are in double digits of infections Its going to hit us regardless No one could stop it and theres nothing we could have done that we havent already The test will be how public health handles this when it hits|0 Hes referring to Democrats trying to blame him for his handling of it Hes not literally saying the virus is a hoax|0 Hes 48 Hes not that young Italy is starting to see more and more cases under 65 needing hospitalization and there have been doctors in their 30s who have died|0 To be clear the symptoms are exactly the same as the flu and you are still much more likely to catch the fluIts abysmal how behind the US is in testing but you should know that is much more likely you just have a regular flu|0 There was an AIDS epidemic in Indiana when Pence was governor because he was more worried about closing Planned Parenthood clinics than the health and safety of his constituents Look it up|1 I mean I guess they see Italy and think wow they were having a really time and they only had to stay home for 14 days|1 Yes they count everyone who tests positive but dies as a death|0 Thats really some good news hopefully it will contribute to rid the world of the currently uncontrollable spreading of CoV2|1 The CPAP usually prescribed now is a bipap that shuts off during exhale and they work much better than the earlier models that kept up a steady stream of air I agree the CPAP is not a decent ventilator but if this gets worse it might be a good thing to look at for modifications|1 That looks like the faceshield would pull the virus into the eyesface from the massive opening at the top|1 Dont know about US situation but my wifes friend is a nurse in a notinsignificant hospital in OsakaStaff have been given one mask a week plus wads of gauze Told to change gauze rather than maskRANT INCOMING Only a matter of time and when nurses are paid the pittance they get theyll just say fuck it Teachers too The very fundamentals of our society education and caring have been short changed for decades Time society got a good fucking kick in the arse as far as Im concerned|1 Thank you Love your daily updates|1 It isnt an exercise in keeping score its an exercise in keeping the vectors for spreading it low and manageable|0 Low key Ive been with my girl whos a Korean native and living in Korea in the future has been a small idea in my head but this event along with this upcoming election cycle might make it a priority instead|0 Already a bit of a mess I went this morning and it was so quiet you could hear a pin drop|0 Less safe for the noninfected because if you fiddle with it and touch your face and the masks you are introducing the primary vector of infection which is touching your face If you are not infected wearing a mask is not an effective treatment The Masks doctors wear are as much to protect their patients as it is themselves|1 It reads ok to me Are you lysdexic|1 Wow someone who actually understands the government strategy a rare sight round here good post|1 They are all sold out on amazon I guess everyone had the same idea|1 I dont understand how this is a bad question Hes the manager of the club and the reporter asked about the impact on his team Events are being cancelled around the world People are avoiding situations that put them at risk Industries are losing money badly The players travel schedule puts them at an elevated riskIts a fair question because it was specifically about the team Also hes just being disingenuous with that answer Hes been vocal about political issues Suddenly now hes got a whole new view|0 thats an excellent question to ask your physician I cant give medical advice per se as Im not an MDhowever i will also run your question by my medical advisory board and let you know their comments if any|1 LOL|1 Fewer than 15 of Americans travel by air as frequently as one trip per year but people who travel more frequently probably guess that number is much higher|1 They just shut down our schools Theyve cancelled church services and everything Im panicked me and my children will run out of food The stores are running out of supplies here Were completely out of certain items Im worried how Im going to earn income I work for the school system I am not a teacher so I am not getting paid leave Im worried about my elderly neighbors I have been pretty calm until it hit me today how serious this is|0 Well an outbreak helps out pharma hospitals and literally all aspects of the American economy So why would we|1 I will definitely not risk my life until US is proven to be safe again|1 Oh he would tell everyone No one has ever recovered from an illness like he has People say he has the best immune system in fact theyve never seen a system as immune|1 Thank you for sharing you are very brave Ive seen reports like this so often lately The presidents claim that there are tests for everyone who wants one is of course total BS I am thankful that my area seems to have access to tests and is reporting details on positive and suspected cases I am honestly not so much scared that we are reporting positive cases in my area but more comforted that my local government is transparent and has access to tests They even reported one that was tested positive with no travel and no known contact yet so it seems theyre not scared to go against the CDC guidelines Im glad your husband is feeling better and Im so sorry you had to experience this If there is any silver lining you are getting your story out there so people know how much our government is lying to us|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 No I dont think Trump knows what Trump is considering for Trump to do|0 I want to see the charts of specific regions like Korea Italy|1 who just recommends the world to get ready for the coming epidemic|1 Do you mean the United States is showing a 937 rate for mild to severe or a European country|1 Not sure if the clinically diagnosed means those people who tested positive but dont show symptomsClinically diagnosed means people who have pneumonia in their radiologic examination but havent received thier positive confirmation|1 Kk Cause i already tweeted the link|1 and normalized for populationThis When the spanisch flu killed 40 Million people we had 2 Billion humans on the globe thats nearly a quarter of what we have todayEven more so the Black death far from a billion people on the Earth it still killed 3060 of just Europe It would need billions today to reach similiar relative death numbers|0 Im new to this and have a question since we just moved to a rural location and are getting satellite tomorrow Canada but neighbor says he gets anywhere from 625kbps if hes lucky geez But do you subscribe to your regular cell provider for an internet access then with this setup you mention And what do you generally use monthly in data would you say Do you get an unlimited plan for a decent price or is a fixed amount enough for your daily usage|1 And bad news there are no ventilators left update your will heres some morphine to make it quick|0 Because porn is a psychological weapon used to keep people docilePerfect for a quarantine|0 This lock down will likely curtail the transmission of more than just Covid19 which is a good thing|1 I can see a point sadly most likely after many deaths that theres a group litigation against the UK Government for advising people that masks dont work I honestly dont see how they could defend it legally or morally Science shows that FFP23 etc definitely do work So if a group of people make the claim that my relative could still be alive if we had known to buy maskscould be in a world of troubleWhy not just be shock honest from the start and tell people that yes certain masks are very effective but frontline medical professionals desperately need them and were attempting to sourceproduce more imminently|1 It would be great to have a line for daily increase its interesting how most western countries increase at around 30 daily wile other countries like Japan and Thailand are much slower|1 What is it then Happy to be directed but Boris royally fucked up a few times now once on GMB saying to allow it to sweep through the population and again during the press conference Its either A Literally the plan or B Fucking god awful communication skills which is a really bad thing to have as a leader of state during a crisis|0 Haha|1 Italy is so overwhelmed now by the deaths of people at home that it can be days before anyone can come to pick up the bodies Americas Center for Disease Control says the US infection rate is expected to be at least 60 per cent|1 This that Cristina yang shit right there|0 Last week I was talking to a couple of coworkers and neither of them had really listened to anything on the news about it The next day they both came in saying they had grabbed a few extra things at the grocery just in case Also surprised by how many customers were making jokes about it|1 My theory isnt tin foil hat though Its quite possible that this was an accidental lab leak China has accidentally released sars twice in the past so theres a precedent for it I made a very detailed post on this theory with about 10 papers cited showing their past lab leaks how global experts didnt want China to have a b4 lab how the WHO independently signed off on it how wuhan lab has been conducting this hiv furine cleavage site now theyve studied 500 viruses and not one has that furine insertion and instead have very similar spike proteins I dont think its improbable that a virus could mutate but I dont think its very likely that a virus thats found in one cave 8800 miles away could make its way to the one city with a virology lab that tests it and thats been shown to do research identical to its mutation Its also very odd that the binding site is different in the one virus Since all the sars like viruses of the clade have the same s protein binding sites it seems that its well conserved within the b clade of Sars like viruses This one is different which means that its somehow made a very interesting jump or more likely its from the lab since it seems to have the same insert as was done by the wuhan researchers The Black Plague is a very bad example for several reasons Its a bacteria that is spread by rats and fleas It jumps to humans because fleas bite humans and regurgitate the bacteria into the blood stream so of course its going to jump hosts A virus is much different than a bacteria in that they have very high host specificity which bacteria dont have Viruses can really only bind and infect one or two hosts so when they jump its a big thing Its very hard for viruses to jump hosts which is why you see avian flu mers etc showing limited h2h transmission Typically when a virus jumps hosts it has a very high mortality rate in humans which is seen in small pox It had an animal host and then jumped giving it around 60 mortality rate in humans|0 Oh 100 Im from America but my parents are from southern italy and my mom boasts on how horrible things are down there The healthcare in southern italy is absolutely garbage she visited last year and had to go to the doctors and said that the directional signs in the hospital were written in crayon She also said the doctors lacked basic tools needed to properly do check ups on patients I dont even want to imagine what it would look like if coronavirus outbroke in southern italy|0 Interesting Perhaps you should consider that the Chinese government downplayed this disease until February In all of January they were arresting doctors who were trying to let people know about the severity of this diseaseThen you have the Chinese government manipulating their numbers not allowing medical experts from other countries to review their data for MONTHS and China also didnt restrict international travel which allowed the infection to spreadDont expect people to be too grateful to China right now Their government fucked up badly|0 So you think some of the lowest paid hourly workers with terrible health insurance should risk their lives and their families lives so people who can stay home and push buttons and make a living can go food shopping When the shtf which it will soon dont expect that to be the case|0 Im from Pacific Grove CA Over there at the Costco there has been some shoving and punching of the face over toilet paper which is now an empty aisle Over here where Im at now in FresnoCA its the same thing but people are less civilized out here Even more punching of the face I pack weapons so I have to avoid crowds like that Would be too easy to go to prison so I avoid it all A lot of people out here carry guns Legal and illegal High crime in this valley Its just a matter of time before you see someone on the news getting shot over toilet paper The hand sanitizer is missing from all the stores that I have called including the stores Im checking out on the internet I have checked both online stores like Walmart and Amazon and also local inventories online All out So I figured I would just use a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol All out of that too Found a small bottle on the internet for thirty bucks Nah I got soap and disposable gloves if it comes down to itAll of that leads me to believe that people are getting very concerned whether they say it or not I started to get concerned but then realized what a rugged individual I am and Im really not concerned If I croak then so be it I have more important things to worry about like walking through my neighborhood safely|0 Yeah similar question I cant tell if I just smoke too much and havent done cardio in a while and have a head cold resulting in diminished lung capacity OR am infected and otherwise asymptomatic no fever or coughing just a little stuffy and experiencing pneumonia Im mid 20s and generally healthy US based in a major metropolitan area with some reported cases no pneumonia crackling or bubbling sounds have to fly to LA early next week for work fml will be masked up possible contact vector with little brother who goes to college with large international population and regularly flies to nyc to see his gf Like this barely even rises to what I would call sick I cant get an appointment within a month with my GP what do internet It would be very very difficult for me to cancel my trip Currently Im thinking Ill stick with the plan and only get tested if I get a cough or really short of breath or a fever as Id be fucked anyway since my roommates are all going on a similar trip as well in the very near future and theyre totally unconcernedunwilling to take any precautions|0 Are police stopping cars|0 Is swearing really necessary|0 Followed Thx|1 No its a coverup|0 I dont feel like we should cheer him on if he actually risks his lifefreedom just to show us bystanders whats going on Are you all so eager to get information which barely gets you anywhere|1 I got sideeyed for sanitizing my hands before taking my phone and wallet out to pay yesterday at Shoppers I dont have a mask or gloves so it was the best I could do|1 Also I know its his side band butthe nurse who loved mewhen I had theVirus haha|1 I hope youre finding yourself a new girlfriend after you get betterCall around to hospitals in your area and ask what to do if you think you might be infected then go from there The longer you wait the more likely hospitals are to be at capacity and given you have several risk factors you will probably be lower priority in triage if hospitals are full up|0 Its worth asking they may prescribe a prophylactic or they may prefer to give you a couple of postdated scripts to use when neededThey were probably trying to avoid giving you antibiotics all the way through to September but given the current situation that might be the best option|1 Thank you to the two posters who have pointed out your mistake regarding the Iranian soccer player In addition to this the risk to higher age groups is considerably higher than for younger ones 02 case fatality rate in the 1040 age group compared with 14 on in the over 80s so the comment is correct and makes a valid point See httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicsBy knowing that some groups are considerably more at risk than others more can be done to protect them For instance help older people to selfisolate if necessary by helping them with shopping and other tasks that means they will not need to go outside and risk coming into contact with the diseaseThe OP is not saying that young people are not at any risk just that the risk for older groups is higher|0 If a million Americans die of unexplained pneumonia this year and only a few thousand die of Covid19 it will be proof that our health care system works better than all the nations that lose 1 out of every 200 people to Covid19|0 Good At least someone in the US is doing something rightMy comment was 100 sarcasm Just disappointed at how bad the US is handling this|0 Afraid of a panic afraid the economy will tank Both bad for becoming new CDU chairmanchancellorIm really sad because I actually liked Spahn |0 What a brilliant escape tactic|1 Ibuprofen is a NSAID and NSAIDs reduce swelling and help alleviate symptoms for many illnessesThey work because swelling and other symptoms of illnesses are almost entirely caused by the immune response in our body What theyre actually doing is reducing the immune response|1 So that should give the world faith just sacrifice some money and lockdown if China can contain that shitstorm every country can do it|1 Yeah these big gatherings are going to make things a ton worse if they let them go on as planned|0 A decade ago I was briefly a part owner of a small business restaurant that failed I lost a lot of money on that venture I get a little mad when I hear it suggested that sick leave should be guaranteed I didnt have deep pockets and took a huge financial hit Many small business owners are in the same boat They cannot afford to pay people to NOT work any more than 99 of the posters on this sub could Especially in a downturn where business is slow Small business owners are regular people just like you|0 Its more like the Red Cross asking for donations for a specific disaster and then giving it all away to other places Sure they also need it but thats not why I donated Ive uninstalled the client Maybe Ill install it again if they add it as a category|0 I think you missed the in a natural disaster|0 Indeed and I hope it is a good indication I just want to see more than 2 days of low positives from low test numbers before I start thinking weve got a hold on this|1 Growth rate of confirmed cases Growth rate of cases|1 Doesnt bode well for those of us in the USA Good luck everyone I had such high hopes for 2020 I never thought a world wide pandemic would bring it all to a screeching halt|1 I agree Im not making the governments point Im just telling peope what the point is A lot of people dont understand the strategy We are giving people a few weeks before we lock everything down for a lot longer than people realise It will be surprising if we have any mass gatherings in August September hopefully Its such a fine balance We all want action Will we still want the same action when we cant see relatives are locked in our houses for months on end|1 It was an obvious typo I didnt want to have to make an editexplain an edit on something that seemed fairly transparent|0 I personally know like 20 people who are planning on flying in to Chi for saint patricks day This is our biggest weekend of the year pretty much They should still have a parade just like for TV tho knowing Chicago theyll probably encourage people to go into danger just like the CTA does|1 Yay|1 Seriously 0 hygiene Do you know that allergies are unheard of South Asia Here in North America my kids are limited in what they can take to school because allergies are rampant And btw if you look outside your colonial racist view youll realize we are hygienic Being brown doesnt mean we are dirty that is just a skin color|0 A lot of doctors especially those that are younger and working in hospitals are basically surrounded by people that are dying from terrible problems all the time Compared to the problems they see on a regular basis covid19 is relatively tame I have a couple friends that are finishing up fellowships and they basically think if you arent most likely dying from something youre fine If their friend gets the virus they will most likely be okay If you ask them about it on a macro society level then the perspective changes|1 You took that too literally Im saying that shutdowns and quarantines will be almost impossible in the US As in short of all out nuclear war I couldnt even imagine it|0 Notice you almost died instead of dying|0 Now they are reaping the rewards|1 It doesnt matter how it collapsed in 2008 Every recessioncollapse is different Because laws and behavior change in response to the last one|0 At this point I start to doubt whether it is incompetency or intentional More tests will confirm more cases which will give the mayor no other option but to declare emergency which will drive stock lower like what CA didI will for sure tune in tomorrow morning to hear what Mr Blasio will say about it He blamed everything on CDC last week|0 That answer is pretty darn intelligent the mind of a genius even We should ask him about Coronavirus|1 Just thank you I know when people sign up for health careers this is probably the nightmare you hope never happens but yall keep on showing up anyway Theres people who really run into the literal and figurative burning buildings and thats really brave and selfless Thank you|1 I live in SA and all I can say is HELL YES|0 I hope they give you guys a medal Absolute heroes|1 Humans win Well the 25 million living in madagascar win|1 My corner Halal food cart man was there for us after hurricane Sandy I hope hes gonna be ok|1 How many of us secret WSBers are on this sub lmao|1 I bet they traveled inout MSP unless theyre closer to Chicago It really depends on where they live It doesnt ssy they live in Madison just that they were seen and treated there The sick person could live anywhere in the state|0 Im praying for you|1 I mean cruise ships always seem to get people sick real fast|0 A big snow storm is hitting this week Tough to queue when theres a foot of snow on the ground|0 How much dos Xi pay you guys No one knows the numbers out of China so your statements may not be proven|0 Most germicidal uvc lamps do not create ozone They are doped to stop that spectrum of light The ozone concentration needed for disinfection is very high and usually requires a dwell time longer than a hour depending on the item|0 Good idea Thanks|1 happy cake day|1 Okay lets say your whackadoodle father is onto something Whats his reasoning for why SKs mortality rate is so low|0 This post The government is lyingcorruptineptincompetentetcYou Lets vote for the guy who wants to make it even more powerful and give it an even bigger chunk of our earningsKellyTurnbull Uh noYou But y thox200BGet it now|1 Well I just updated my post with a link to the news story people still think Im lying|0 Rebuilt my Xeon and C2Q machines this weekend to better contribute Well done team|1 Same as everyone I dont knowNumbers show that on 100 cases starting more than a week ago there has been 4 cases of h2hSeems really low especially for a virus with a said r0 of 2535|0 NZ PM announces border restrictions Oh shes great and wonderfulTrump announces border restrictions How dare he Hes so racist|0 35x higher actually 1 die from flu COVID19 is roughly 35|0 B Bored At home Stares in introvert|0 Revenge of the Younglings|0 The Romans had access to clean running water over 2k years ago|1 As I already wrote common flu has a case mortality rate of between 05 to 1 Thats one in five thousand to one in a thousand depending on typical strain Compared to 25 for Covid19 Your argument strains credulity|0 Very true Forestbush fire smoke is no joke|1 Im telling you point blank theyre lying They said weeks ago they had performed over 100000 tests Lol No they hadnt|0 Yeah I thought Canada was supposed to be better than us US|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Just like to throw it out there you dont need to spend tons of money on hand sanitizer Just use some rubbing alcohol I mean that is all the cheaper sanitizers are At least in my area that hasnt been cleaned out nearly as much Mix it with regular hand soap or something if you want|1 I dont understand how anyone can think hes doing a good jobWatch more Fox and OANN|1 Yeah even back in high school our printed schedules used R for Thursday|1 My wife also said the same about me you are paranoid That was way back on December Months kept passing and now Im her 1 source of information|0 This is a reminder to everyone thats busy yelling about Winnie the Pooh and fearmongering and whatnot that we are dealing with real human lives 25k people may be direct victims of the virus so far but many millions more are being impacted and are going to have to deal with the stresses of not being able to put food on the table pay for rents mortgages etc|0 Its funny you mention the sea change from Wed to Thurs because it wasnt until Thursday night here in SoCal when I hit the grocery store on my way home from work that I found myself questioning why the parking lot was so busy Went inside and saw lines 30 people deep at selfcheckout no less My wife and an out of town visiting friend of hers had been highanxiety for at least 7 days prior to that and I was shrugging it off Not so much that I didnt believe it could would happen Buy my thought was look maybe it is bad maybe its not but I dont need to freak out about it now I need to be measured and levelheaded Thursday at the grocery store put me in the oh shit will i be able to feed my kids if the stores are empty mindset Not proud of that but it shifted my gears for sure Im a notch or two higher on the anxiety scale now but i did stop down to play with my kids in the rain today Will see what tomorrow brings|0 Yeah I bet he does fuck make it 10k who cares at this point|1 30 take it or leave it|0 Washing hands and avoidance of others can only go so far The WHO does believe there are asymptomatic people who are unknowingly spreading the virus There is no harm is stocking up on food meds taking vitamins etc There is harm in trying to force your methods or beliefs on your SO They are their own person Whether theyre in denial or are simply not wanting to do what you are doing I dont know But its not worth fighting over imo The goal for all of us is to be as healthy as possible when we contract the virus that way we each have a better chance of only having a mild to moderate case Those with major underlying health concerns diabetes on chemo respiratory diseases will have severe symptoms As for suddenly having a gun in the house please be educated keep it locked up and make sure if there are kids they do not have access No one wants an accident|0 Theres local testing and theres CDC testing If you get a positive with local testing it is called a presumptive positive|1 You dont get the flu every year and its mild or asymptomatic for most people A healthy lifestyle including healthy eating habits is good for your immune system in general its also circular logic that you get to do that through food you enjoy is even great but there arent any miracle foods to help you cureId like to see how well youre protected against the flu after becoming morbidly obese on burgers while youre eating your elderberries Keep eating your garlic and ginger and tell me how well you deal with the flu when you and your family members are retired and are nearing 90 How well do you compare to other people your age that dont smoke and have an equally lean and balanced lifestyleIts not these foods but the entirety of everything you eat do and dont do but also what age you are what other genetic health issues you have and most importantly whether you actually get in contact with the virus You and your family might be young and healthy now but that can and will change and a flu shot might make a difference then|1 God damnit Ive been putting off a check upphysical for way to long and now Im gonna have to wait even longer hopefully|1 Stocking up to prepare for a crisis isnt panic buyingStocking up to prepare for a crisis isnt panic buying Its actually a pretty rational choice the Conversation February 26 2020 httptheconversationcomstockinguptoprepareforacrisisisntpanicbuyingitsactuallyaprettyrationalchoice132437httpswwwsciencealertcomreasonablepreparationsbeforeacrisisisntpanicbuyingheresthedifferencehttpsphysorgnews202002stockingcrisisisntpanichtmlA couple of odd news articlesPanic buying strips store shelves as people stockpile amid coronavirus outbreak with one woman turning her basement into a supermarket and a man buying a YEARS supply of food which includes 192 tins of SPAM Daily Mail United Kingdom February 28 2020 httpswwwdailymailcouknewsarticle8056301AmericansupermarketshelvesstrippedbarecoronaviruspanichtmlFairPrice CEO says many suggested that Fairprice shouldnt refund those who stockpiled excess items Donate excess items to charity instead he said Mothership Singapore February 26 2020 httpsmothershipsg202002seahkianpengnorefundsforstockpile|0 Its reasonable to be scaredNo taking precautions is reasonableAlso I find it hilarious that a fearmonger is being supported by someone that regularly comments on TD I thought your pathetic GodEmperor told you that this is all a fake news and hoax|0 Yeah fookitt|1 Given it being China I think PTSD would be shamed as being weak|0 In the US you wait for months AND get bankruptcy as a bonus|1 I can bet the strategy changed a maxmimum of 3 days ago i am talking from experience with the transfer calls to test people not being takenHopefully they do keep testing more people the reason i said they were following the herd immunity was mainly because after the announcement our supervisors told us to stop transferring calls to test people although this could be just in our officeEditYou can actually see they have said that they will not be testing people with mild symptoms which is a bit worrying|0 In a weeks time you may not have a choice Theyll advise you to stay and youll accept it|1 To add onto this the time until clinical resolution ie death or recovery is on the order of 1 month|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing 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the news more than a week ago about China saying how they dont have enough tests and that Tianjin is sending 100000 tests to Wuhan I get the sense that we in the West get a very filtered and incomplete version of the news because of the language barrier We assume that China isnt sharing certain information when its maybe just our news agencies who arent translating and reporting on them|0 Keep in mind athletes who put a lot of stress on their bodies have a weaker immune system Its sad but say that lady got infected after a soccer game theres a good possibility her body was significantly weaker and therefore unable to fight this|0 These are the steps in the approval process Note that I think some of these steps are managed by the FDA not the CDChttpswwwcdcgovvaccinesbasicstestapprovehtml|1 The stats published today by the Florida Department of Health are exactly the same as they were on Friday 23 total testedhttpwwwfloridahealthgovdiseasesandconditionsCOVID19indexhtmlhttpwwwfloridahealthgovdiseasesandconditionsCOVID19indexhtmlEdit Looks like they actually just updated this now it looks like 43 have been tested|1 Well thats one way to spread a disease|1 Its a bit late for this but this article seems to be behind a paywall Please report this in the futureHere is a link to a similar article on the subjecthttpsnypostcom20200229chinaofficialsknewofcoronavirusindecemberorderedcoverupreportsaysThis also means basically none of you read the article before commenting |1 Does anyone think these 2 weeks arent enough Like if we release everyone back in 2 weeks its going to make things worse|0 whipitsToday I learned what whipits are Today Today I also learned that whipits inhaling is a thingx200BToday today today I ALSO learned that maybe we are just too stupid as a species and this virus is the universe correcting itself See Today and Today Today for clarification|0 Washington state is up to testing 2k a day and expanding Its happening just slowly and mostly on certain states|1 huh never occurred to me that there would be a NH sub knowing what NH middle aged middle class soccer moms are like on fb im not sure i want to do that lol send me a link|1 Wtf Againhow is SK sitting at like 50 Nothing is making sense|0 an alarm bell that most of the sheep need to wake upseriously there are people that CANT act before their leaders say so|0 China and some European governments sat on their hands too Just because other governments have acted with incompetence thanks to greed or refusal to listen to experts doesnt mean its fine when our garbage administration acts as weve come to expect over the last three years We had some time to see those countries go through Corona first and actually learn to respond better But its the same as alwaysyes men who bungle everything|0 Why do you keep telling people that most of the UK dont know how to wash their hands Its a bizarre statement to keep making all over Reddit Where did you get the statistics|0 Thankfully they announced they would be rolling it out yesterday so it wasnt as scary Best way to handle it too let the news spread naturally for those who want to get prepared and then drop the hammer for everyone else|1 My workplace is doing shit I am a hospice nurse I go into homes nursing facilities and hospitals They arent letting us wear masks Well not precisely but the email today implied that they better not catch us wearing masks My supervisor is oblivious and says it will go away when the weather is warm Well its March in the Midwest Then we get told to just wash our hands Thats it So I guess only certain nurses are getting protected We have hospice rooms inside a hospital I give direct care But somehow they view us as lower risk I got coughed on today in the face as we were repositioning a patient Nursing homes and retirement homes are going to suffer bad outbreaks and we are being told to just make sure we wash our hands Fuck this shit|0 No te olvides de las fallas|0 I just see Governor Cuomo on tv basically begging Trump for federal help But why wouldnt Cuomo at least do what heCuomo can doie shutdownie why not a week ago Or 6 days ago Or 5 Or 4 Or 3 etc|1 Im sure many corporations will have their debts forgiven because of this People not so much|1 When u have large amount of popele sick your environment is contaminated|0 Well Im pretty sure them dickheads are tormented in the welded homes too|1 I apologise for the feeling that you are getting from some of the nonchinese They are the minority and I am deeply saddened that this is happening to you and your family and every person stuck in this situation I know a bit about China from third party associations My significant other studied there for 6 months I know that apartments are built differently there than here in the states Something about how the air conditioning is a fan inside a hole of the wall with some grates covering it My significant other said they chased a giant cockroach out of the apartment on something like the 14th floor The cockroach flew around the next building and flew in I hope you and your family are in a building where there arent many openings to the outside air I hope the buildings have good ventilation and that everyone can stay safe warm and healthy Happy Lunar New Year Btw fasting sucks Ration coffee tea and fizzy water These will help you combat hunger pangs I hope you guys can continue to eat fasting for extended periods isnt good for people who are not fat I will keep you all in my thoughts and send you good wishesI also wanted to thank you and your family for doing all that you can to help the situation You are very brave|1 This is extremely stupid Shame on them Just limit the amount of purchases to 1|0 I know that but its better than nothing|1 Hahaha no Coronavirus isnt actually that dangerous Only 35 of cases need intensive care and the death rate is even lower Were also working on a vaccine This probably wont kill more than seasonal flu which takes out about 400000 every year Economically China will suffer because of this because people panic for no reason but it wont be a pandemic that threatens humanity whatsoever|0 Lots of doomers that hoped this would spell the end of civilization|1 Thailand was one of the dirtiest places I went It has the appearance of being cleaner than other SEA countries but they seem to hate the idea of having soap in the toiletsEveryone either washes their hands with water or not at all Its disgustingThailand is the country I have been sick the most by far while travelling|0 Uh oh you know shits real when NYT stops money whoring|0 Oh fuck theyre going to release them just like they did Iran This is how violence will break out|0 Good I was watching this terrible person the other night with my inlaws and was APPALLED at the misinformation she was spreading I was in the CDC website and every reliable source I could think of instantly showing what an idiot she was being and not to believe a word coming out of her mouth Thankfully they listened|0 You are also a hero for being there for a hero|1 We can basically distill all the problems down to the legislative graveyard that is the senate If thats what you mean by the federal government being poorly designed I agree Nothing is getting passed or amended and this needs to change somehow Cuts to healthcare the CDC removal of experts etc etc this is completely different and will not fix your actual grievances with the government|0 I am not saying theres no reason to worry at all that would be a misunderstanding I am mostly just trying not to freak out TOO much by looking at numbers without context According to the numbers it is worse than the flu so far but flu affects more people as of yet at least Even if it were just like the flu then Corona flu is certainly worse than just the flu alone I think people forget that as well So that definitely worries me However thousands of deaths is relatively low for a country of hundreds of millions Our 31 cases for a country of 10 million is also low The total death toll world wide is about three thousand which is also still low compared not only to the seasonal flu but also to the last novel viruses we had so far So thats relatively calming What I am saying is we should not panic but we shout absolutely take precautions and be careful in the next weeks then well see I guess|0 Get well soon|1 Imagine explaining how multiple dimensions of value means time isnt the only metric of merit and getting downvoted because people dont want to admit how fucking low iq they are|1 Fyi its hypOnatremia hypERnatremia is dehydration|1 Im already pissed about people that start worrying now about corona VirusThis shit was same as relevant 2 months ago But you laughed at me for worrying and now you pieces of human garbage suddenly care |0 Yeah many of these changes are nonsynonymous meaning it has basically no effect on the virusSynonymous changes are rarer and indicate a change that has an effect though many of these are small changes Often many synonymous mutations are needed for a new strain theyre usually a combination of changes rather than one|0 Plenty of boondoggles in china but when 20 million and the big guy is watching you you do it right This and I imagine the workers have a totally different kind of motivation on this particular project|1 Great my babys cant get coronavirus as long as they are in my womb |1 Wait then are you saying the 2000 number are from those with symptomsThat means these are only 6080 cases asymptomatic contributes to shit 2040 of infected iircIf thats true that means the number of infected is close to 20k now|0 Well I guess 101 year old Grampa is safe|1 Some cities have combined Amazon Fresh and Prime Now and are now Ultra Fast Fresh centers though to the customer it is still called Prime Now I work at the warehouse in Cincinnati The main difference is that we offer a much much wider selection of produce than what we previously did as well as a lot more bakery items and deli meatcheeses I know other cities have transitioned but Im not 100 sure which ones Its pretty neat as we have a lot more to offer to the customer for 12 hour delivery|1 Well I think we are taking drastic action|1 Good call|1 Fuck rich corporate assholes hoarding the resources the people need|0 What date did you leave Was it part of the US evacuation|0 Havent you heard the Vice Presidents new initiative to pray the virus away|1 No the point of foldit is to use humans innate problem solving ability which by far exceeds any ai that we currently have|0 I think that is causing more problems than anything the misinformation out there But arguing online about it until youre blue in the face wont help either Try to point people toward some sources and know there are some journalists reporting on what information theyre getting as theyre getting the information|0 Theyll change their minds when death hits their streets Just like Italy did|0 It is very heartbreaking to know that these doctors nurses are trying their best to keep people alive and yet there are people who still dont care about this at all and still choose to gather increasing the chances of spread|1 I was just tested at my urgent care They kept me in my car and brought the doctor out to me but they sent me home and told me to isolate until the results come in 35 days Bay area|1 Interestingly enough Im fine only occasional dry cough And thanks I think we should be ok|1 Probably a bit But then again killing businesses But then again a pandemic is going on right now I guess it depends on how serious you are taking the Corona virus|0 Mods Can you please let us know the moment you are approached by a politician on the content of this subreddit People are coming here in part because of a lack of satisfaction with mainstream reporting and politicians less than open approach It would be nice to know when what seems to be an open and transparent reporting mechanism is compromised Just let us know Thanks|1 You seemingly have a lot more room than most of the people in the world Multiple fridges and freezers are a luxury afforded to fewI have food but certainly dont have space for 1 freezer chest let alone two|1 Yes and no They already closed down all their makeshift hospitals Im guessing they have a massive capacity to fight this that isnt being used which is fortunate because the rest of the world is about to explode|1 This is why FOX News is downplaying the entire situation We are woefully unprepared to face this pandemic|0 So someone got it from an unknown source in kansas of all places had it long enough to be infectious fall ill seek treatment at the hospital die and THEN get tested So there has been unchecked community spread in kansas for a really long time and they must have a big population of contagious that will translate into illness and death soon We need to get everyone changing behaviors but america will never do it so we just have to watch This sucks|0 We do NOW We had more than a month to prepare and we are acting as if we were wuhan in the beginning HUGE Negligence at least Wtf|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 He believes Hong Kongs health authorities were brave to declare an emergency as early as Jan 4 with the only flaw in their response being deferring the decision to close borders with the mainlandHe still blamed them for the slow response to the border|0 Im in the states and I wont lieIm pretty terrified|1 What about the economy broAs if imaginary numbers in bank computers and fantasies of infinite growth are more important than lives|1 Of all the positions to stake out with the pandemic she chose this one Not that FOX will have any trouble replacing her with someone just like her|0 The hospital my wife works at is refusing to report two suspected cases because they are almost dead This is going to be a shitshow|0 No maybe they need to talk to their dads office manager and fire them Dads office didnt prepare and now its your fault|0 Slimy bastards|0 Lol if you think he hasnt been tested yet and if he did test positive that hed even admit it at all|1 I have so many supermarkets in my town in the borders Sainsbury Morrisons aldi lidl an Iceland a farmfoods they are all ok for the moment Theres a massive ASDA and tesco half an hour up the road just done a 100 shop arriving tomorrow Some of their tins of beans n stuff were out of stockthankfully I was prepping over a month ago|1 The Guardian are reporting an official in Wuhan saying 5m residents have left the city From your social circle would you agree that approx 50 have left|1 I get what youre saying but private industry shouldnt be replacing the government This is one of the cases where private industry does very well The test the WHO uses and the test used in South Korea uses are developed by private companies that just decided to do it They werent asked and they werent expecting their tests to be accepted right away like they were Those companies are making a lot of money making a relatively cheap product|1 Only reason I said console is because anyone who cares enough for gaming PC already has their own ya bunch of snooty bitches Haha jk I know gaming PC is the way to go most people are fine arguing over the latest next gen console though|1 Lol I still have one from when California was on fire 15 years ago Not sure how many days it lasts though and I still havent used it|0 My moms at assisted living I told her to hike up in her apartment They will bring foodI know a risk I got her meds refilled for 3 monthsthey also file that out so shes going to be seeing people no matter what I got her some nonperishables just in case And extra tp and depends And we talked She said to take care of me and my husband That shes been alone since Dad died 12 years ago and that if its her time shell get to see him again She has CHF but is surprisingly not too affected by it|1 You guys realize they arent running tests not because we cant but because the longer we wait to do so the more time the government has to prepare resources before the panic As soon as cases start popping up like crazy everywhere people will panic There are like 400 people in Michigan under quarantine and weve run 5 tests It doesnt take a genius to know why It amazes me you all think our systems are that dumb but havent seen the military supply trucks on the road near bases for the past month or two|0 Staying home is helping them Younger people are asymptomatic for the most part carriers Staying home also lessens transmission which means our hospitals arent overloaded and making the decision to save a 40 year old vs a 60 year old which is life in Italy right now|1 They are waiting to be tested but they havent shown any symptoms yet so they are currently in self isolation One or several could be asymptomatic but until they are tested or show symptoms its best not to make assumptions|1 This might be the event that reshapes US healthcare Sorry but Im so grateful I dont live there|1 I mean thats lifeforms in general Check out The Selfish Gene if you havent already Great explanation of why we are this way|0 PDF of the preprint httpsdrivegooglecomfiled1LSWWSygl6e934mAlZAaBEKm19QHpUJviewuspdrivesdkIm stunned I would hope there is massive under identification of it in these populations|1 Shocked|0 yessee for yourselves Usually at the end they will say sadly xxx have died as death count under number of cases but its completely removed httpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublicnumberofcases|0 Death is proven to cure the illness 100 of the time|0 Were a Silicon Valley company with a large campus in Ohio All of the other buildings will be working from home except for this one critical building Most of our office staff will be at home as well|0 True|1 This is literally not known at this time so Dr Google cant help you|0 And the blonde presenter smiles|1 They declared a state of emergency right|0 I have been harping on my mother to isolate socially for 2 weeks now She was like we arent hermits we wont restrain our life we are healthy etcToday she finally agreed not to go to church And to avoid large gatherings I was so worried about my step father he is almost 80 has high cholesterol and lung issues if he gets it I think he will be hospitalized if not die I am so relieved|1 That wed have overflowing hospitals in America Havent seen that to be true|1 We cant even keep criminal scum in prison as todays events revealed|0 Indeed Just buying time but they are wrong every day they dont go ahead and put in drastic measures the more will die and the closer we get to collapse Obv they think differently more die but get them all sick at once and then millions die but it is what it is Get back and produceconsume but we should slow disease not let it spread without molestation|0 Stable genius who knows his uncle is a scientist with da nuclear sic and he know viruses more than anyone else Even many many people say this Trump why dont you show everyone how much you know viruses I would but I am president and I can solve all things Trump He talks like he failed English lit 3rd person to 1st person description by the very man who brags about himself|1 Fun fact their faces always look like that I usually am too uncomfortable to watch their monthly update videos This company sucks and they make it hard to do my job I love my job and the customers I serve but this company doesnt give a single fuck about employee wellbeing outside of what will make them more money raise interest in stocks make their customers happierEdit update we are now getting paid leave as much as I dont always agree with this company in every way as well as many others Im glad to see this opportunity to come to our coworkers nation wide|1 How the hell come my countryPhilippines has no infection Its kinda impossible coz we are in a 3rd world country I dont know if we are just so poor to detect if there is infected or we are just lucky|0 A million is technically a thousand thousands No problems Just thousands of thousands of cases |0 How did in this example supply improve by his speculation|1 Hes a pigCould so easily afford to pay them just by looking in his own pockets|1 My first two jobs in high school in UT were paid at 825 and 9hour respectively|1 As a serious question how to you contain a virus if we wont lockdown and stop contact with each otherYou cant and people will die and those people who refuse to abide by the advice will blame the government instead of themselves|0 You dont think the government of Japan owns land or could lease farmland that could be used for temporary buildings I feel like Im in the twilight zone with this conversation where a cruise ship is the best option for quarantining thousands of people|1 Living in Amsterdam I can assure you its pretty dead here at the moment sure maybe not 100 but Id say close to 75 of what is normally going onJust check some pictures from httpswwwredditcomrAmsterdamhttpswwwredditcomrAmsterdam and you will see what I mean|1 Exactly So Im thinking once this blows population wide we will be seeing numbers closer to the Korean ones on the amount of people needing medical assistance but death toll might end up higher because of the simple factor that a we will not be able to help everyone medically and might have to make decisions who to let die In China there was a difference between 4 death toll in Wuhan and 1 death toll outside of it which is probably at least in part because of the medical care available That is of the tested cases and it does look like that Chinese took a lot of care to test as many people as possible and I wonder if Western countries will be even able to match at that to be honest because nobody does colossal projects that boggle minds as well as the Chinese and this was one of those colossal endeavours Still taking the Korean numbers the Chinese may have missed testing a lot of infected people after allIf they did that is good news You can readily assume nearly everyone who needs ICU will die if medical care is overwhelmed So the lower the true of infections not tested cases needs ICU the better|0 Its not even that they are famous and rich its that they are famous and rich and make a lot of money for other much richer people who are not as famous|1 It depends how much shit hits the fan This could change whole societies on a global level If it blows over then ya back to business as usual keep polluting keep our peasant wages low|0 Yes its got to be a cohesive plan with county regional state and federal supply chains and communication programs I agree that SOME hospitals have been rehearsing and adjusting readiness so that they are not overwhelmed by a tsunami but I do not see enough evidence that the entire infrastructure is in 2nd or 3rd gear for readiness 1st gear yes|1 I would hope some big pharma manufacturers may already be tooling up lines for potentially promising vaccines or medications like what Gilead is making and are already in Phase 3 trials It reportedly has worked well so far and theyre expecting results in April They began the trials back in January in Japan and in China|1 This why you dont want it once You get it again Its over They say in xrays of recovered patients the lungs look like they have frosted glass Its like dengue fever that way|1 Korea is going to continue to spike for a while The person who originally tested positive was part of a questionable church with 230000 who spent over 2 weeks roaming the country spreading their beliefs before they were all forced to be tested In fact 12 church leaders are going to trial because of it|0 But then hell have another chance because you only live twice|0 Bezos should be having amazon drones dropping test kits from the air lol|1 Yes exactly Cause I mean the cruise ship would be a great place to study the true asymptomatic cases If they were minimal like the Chinese suggest we would know that the severity of the disease is really what we are seeing|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read 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Welcome to Bernies campaign|1 Gotta step up your nice game uesuohtnep|1 I live in a small town near Milan No police fining anybody Just plenty of stupid people who still dont get it They cant tell the night from the day|0 Thats why I said he might not he will Im not trying to be a doctor but having a very high temperature can still be a reason to call 111 They pretty much always ask me my temperature when I call them which to date as never been for COVID19|1 This might be the catalyst that causes US companies to actually implement sick pay and annual leave wide scale for employeesWell as an Aussie who has access to this I hope that more people in the US get access to it too|0 I think that in Italy were not simply being supercareful but actually overzealous There were actually cases of false positives in Piemonte which have been counted even by some autorithies and I think theyve made their way to international counters like Johns Hopkins etc Its like people have a doom mentality where everyone is supposed to be infected without even waiting for the final results The outbreak is indeed strange but confined to certain areas almost 90 is in Lombardy Central and southern Italy are completely fine except for one case in Lazio which I think came from up the bootTheyve already closed everything in northern Italy pretty much people are not confined but theyre not supposed to leave their county and most stores and organization are closed and those who can avoid going there wont go there because the paranoia is big Most of the people tested simply had a flu who was not having big effects on them those hospitalized are people with preexisting conditions or seniors unlike what happened in China I think were testing far more people than other western countries do but its just my impressionThe numbers will probably be rising a bit but for what I understand the possibility of a state of emergency are very low of course we will wait for updates My advice for people from abroad is if you have a trip or anything else in northern Italy its probably a good idea to delay But dont worry most of us are doing fine and living a completely normal life|1 Thanks for replying Best of luck and good health to you|1 Why doesnt he be a model and show us how easy it is to live and go to work with the virus|1 I think they underestimate potential apathy When our lives are at risk theres no telling how determined well be|0 Just to be clear there are many medical research projects on BOINCThese include IBM WorldCommunityGrid which has and is already doing research projects in Cancer Childhood Cancer Aids TB Ebola Zika etc as well as GPUGrid TNGrid and many others see project list URL at end of posthttpswwwworldcommunitygridorghttpswwwworldcommunitygridorghttpswwwgpugridnethttpswwwgpugridnethttpgenedisiunitnittesthttpgenedisiunitnittestIts very good that so many people are getting involved with volunteer distributed computing now because of Covid19 but hopefully many will stay afterwards as clearly they are are still areas of important research that can be contributed towardsA quick look at the project list in BOINC manager which is not all the current projects shows available research projects inAstrophysics Mathematics Biochemistry Physics Molecular Biology Climate Science Astronomy Medical Physiology Computer Engineering Molecular simulations of Proteins Cognitive Science Cryptography Combinatorics Nano Science Seismology Environmental Research Biology Astrobiology Evolution etchttpsboincberkeleyeduprojectsphphttpsboincberkeleyeduprojectsphp|1 yup thats a bit large and in charge butif you are working on losing then congrats if your in decent health then you should be ok its just the main thing is that overweight people are more likely to have health issues but just stay safe wash your hands often and keep in the loop with news and such Fight the power|1 you should change your username to SmartAccountant i am so sorry for your loss may you and your loved ones not suffer anymore from this|1 Positive reports are accepted with absolute faith despite a lack of critical analysis Negative reports are rejected and all forms of evidence are considered invalid|1 Not all those puts have panned out some because of those trade stops And with the constant seesaw market even that isnt easy to guess at this point|0 Young people need to know that if they dont stay home and get really sick somebody older will get unplugged and die just to make spot in hospital for them|0 Wondering if the cdc will blame all the deaths on pneumonia from vaping smh this whole government is a damn joke|0 ok great so what this virus is very contagious it would be wise for these pundits to suggest that people wear masks as a precaution prevention is more important people dont want to be infected|1 Weve known for a long time that Wuhans numbers were only the top of the iceberg Now the iceberg is melting and were starting to see more of it|1 i rather be proactive and stay at home The stats are much more on my side with self isolation We all need to do our partstay safe out there gentlemen See you on the other side|1 Looking smart for buying some masks around new year|1 Gonna be a big lawsuit|0 If only it was as simple as your dead or your not Plenty of people may well end up with diminished lung function|0 I was about to comment SICK PANTS|0 If they are jammed together in the supermarket breathing all over each other its all of our problems|0 Ah okay sorry i didnt catch that Better type s really hard to detect sarcasm here|0 Data from stories is an interesting concept|1 Yeah its the moral and ethical thing to do right If we value all human life to be the same then when you have the choice to save a 20yearold or a 70yearold who do you pick Dont be too harsh on the government for making a very hard ethical choice This epidemic is going to show people that we are blood or show us that some are worth more than others Cool to note that an old crusty VA vet told me and my wife that he will refuse treatment if someone younger needs it more So thats nice|1 Its a result of being overworking This plague requires significant rest and all|1 now were supposed to kill you|0 That number has been bouncing around a bit Hopefully they are increasing their throughput|1 At this point just blacklist any listing that mention toilet paper lysol hand sanitizer etc Its clear all of these are being gouged I dont know how this wasnt done yet|1 Thanks|1 it is almost impossible to be tested unless youre unable to breatheUnless youre in the NBA wealthy or politically connected|1 Dafuq This is even worse than under reporting the cases Since now we do not know the extent of the situation in Thailand we should outright ban flights to Thailand till this shit dies down|0 This is fear mongering|0 Just some creative calculations If you take South Koreas death percentage and overlay it to Italy Italy should have been at almost 250k infected now Same calculation worldwide with SKs numbers would mean wed be at roughly 716k infectedYou can do the same calculation for your own country and make a rough estimate how many infected there are Knowing that a lot of countries arent testing people with mild conditions or people who have been in contact with infected|0 Sensationalism at its finest Lets scare everyone with speculation cause that will help|0 nursing homes will become graveyards |0 yay|1 Has anyone seen the movie A Day without a Mexican Real Good time to watch it Im just sayin |0 Are there still people in Italy with the opinion that this is just a flu I cant imagine certain people taking this seriously even if we reach levels in Italy if it doesnt personally effect them Just curious what the sentiment is like over there|0 Everyone voting conservative until they need a bit of socialism to help em out|1 I read on a message board that there will be a station set up in Delta not sure if thats true though|1 Thank you|1 Thank you for this information Please keep us updated|1 Yeah exactly when you do contact tracing if you have all these different cases from different areas and you find that the only thing they have in common is ALL of them met with this ONE GUY then you go test that guy|1 Is it just me or does Trump sound sick|0 Dont trash or wash your N95 masks Just let them sit then reuseNever wash a mask It will disentangle the fibers rendering the mask uselessThe novel coronavirus has been demonstrated to live for only a day on cardboard surfaces 3 days on plastic or steel So have four masks and use them in rotation Never touch the inside Each sits for three 3 full days before being used again and is almost certain to be free of coronavirus when you use it againThis advice applies to N95 and other protectyourself masks For protecting others surgical masks it is best to dispose of and not reuse themEDIT Clarity of 1st sentence|1 OK but you also have to use context hereThat was my point see where I said it leaves out important info For all intents and purposes a spokesperson for the CDC isnt going to go to a press panel and accuse China of lying Its not their MOYou are making things up that is not context|0 Well not sure if negligence Where did rumor first start that there was virus on board Was it credible Why did WHO and Holland America say no sign Do we really think Holland America would lie and take risk and liability of infecting a whole city or country by letting people off ship Should every cruise liner based on rumor or concern be quarantined Seems to me easy to be Monday morning QBs In retrospect seems a bit stupid yes but at time other than usual folk on here seemed very little outcry since all signs seemed to point to virus free ship and Cambodia trying to garner goodwill of world Honestly they all must have thought virus free if they shook their hands and US ambassador and family went aboard I can see a case for this either way|1 Being stressed and lonely correlated with almost all disease|0 He was probally one of those deconstructionists as well|1 I had heard that WA was encouraging postponement of elective procedures too I figured it was to keep healthy people out of the hospital but preserving PPE makes much more sense|1 Half of these comments are shit posts Keep the hammer hammering|0 People are seriously saying he should die from it because hes a Democrat its a sad day in America when people are too busy with right vs left politics than treat each other with decency SMH|0 Honestly this would explain why the US CDC is in the same breached containment focus on mitigation mindset it adopted with H1N1 A lot of the same markers are there Stopped tracking numbers and let states focus on testingreporting Didnt waste resources testing mild symptomatic only focused on identifying severe cases for treatment course Preached wash hands avoid crowded places be smart doctrineI think there is a method of we dont want to incite panic as well at play|1 I have no idea|0 I do wonder If we would be in a socialist state Would se fear for a thing likely recession And workers not having their rights metI truly do wonder its not sarcasm Its not about saying capitalism is bad is just I wonder you know|0 this might be one of the top 10 best replies ive seen today|1 yes it will be a slow thing and can be combated we will make it|1 Because people wearing face masks are a high visibility symbol of fear and uncertainty they want to hide|0 Remind me in 1 year hopefully it resolves it self then whether CureVac offers this vaccine for free|1 yep everyone knew that itd happenthats why you see Hong Kong people has been fighting so hard to ask the govt to close the border with china the govt responded by saying theyre giving self isolation orders to those coming in through the borderturns out every day there are people running onto the streets not picking up the isolation check phone calls a few of them even went missing for over 24 hoursrelying on selfdiscipline doesnt work i dont know why its so difficult for the govt to believe so|0 Ive seen this too It really saddens me but Ive partially resigned myself to prepping for myself only and quiet desperation in terms of my view in society|0 I think his point is more along the lines that for all the faults that China has Europe is even less prepared on a logistical basis Transparency wont matter if youre lacking material equipment|0 Absolutely Honestly dont get me wrong I know things are bad and will get worse but I could write an essay on all the positives that could potentially come out if this Number one being that I really think it will pull the country back together again after some really horrible fractious years|0 for 3 days and may have more to do with the fact you know the attack was right near the actual exchanges|0 I am not pessimistic about this either but we cant expect this to be kept out if the borders are still open I dont think that is the plan The plan I think is to let this happen because it is inevitable but delay its arrival then spread There is going to be a point where it is coming in too often and mini outbreaks are too frequent for us to contain it|0 Isnt logistical growth just exponential growth bounded by a limit There arent infinite amounts of people to be infected so of course it has to be logistical growth|0 Im really glad Im not from US This health insurance stuff is like medeival times for most of us from EU I dont understand why insurance is not universal and mandatory Anyone care to explain|1 But there IS a playbook for pandemic AND theyre following it closely Suppress panic and actionable information maintain normal economic activity maintain trade Keep producers producing keep consumers consuming Try to be the last ECONOMY standing Public Health isnt really on the list aside from what is required to meet the earlier objectives|0 KimJong Un disagrees|0 Why Philadelphias death rate double that of St Louis during the 1918 Spanish flu outbreak 2007 NIHHarvard study found cities acting earlyquarantines school closings bans on public gatheringshad peak death rates 3050 lower than those that did not httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfapuuiwhywasphiladelphiasdeathratedoublethatof|0 Too late for that The Trump administration slept during the last two months instead of ramping up PPE production So the solution now is to pretend that 200 years of the medical practice of wearing masks is fake to save faceIf that is not enough to save face then the next logical medical step is to just stop reporting alltogether If properly ignored this problem will go away like climate changes|1 Even if people werent spitting on the toothpicks how would someone pull out one toothpick from the styrofoam without touching and thus potentially contaminating the surrounding toothpicksInstead of getting sick from touching the buttons youre going to get sick from touching the toothpicks instead|0 We are working from home for almost 1 week now in Silicon Valley Many tech jobs can be done from home though efficiency goes down|1 Nice|1 I think it also explains why they are now covering all the ducts and doors with paper They are trying to see if that helps now I hesitate to use the term guinea pigs but its almost what is is They can now only use these people as data and try to figure out how all its spreading Can you imagine still being on that ship Those poor people|0 I dont think thats confirmed to be the case yet Hypothetically people could have the same payments going through just applied fully to principal instead It wouldnt make much sense but such a scenario doesnt contradict a waiving of interestEdited to include from Politico Under that approach a borrowers monthly payment amount would not automatically change though any payments the borrower did make would likely pay down a greater share of the principal balanceSo if true it doesnt make much of any economic difference to anyone in the short term If heading towards something like PSLF it means littletonothing long term either httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200313trumpadministrationstudentloanpaymentssuspension128181|1 LMAO Holy shit|1 As a singer I think thats the most disturbing thing Ive ever seen Im already afraid of the virus this makes me more frightened|0 Read the next two And my company would easily accept an associates years of field experience|1 I mean Singapore is rather warm and its spreading there|1 Thanks for this post I was supposed to land in Paris this morning on a business trip I declined to go as my youngest kid has fairly severe asthma and I couldnt risk bringing it homeThe trip was for a conference of about 1500 people the majority would have just flown in from overseas mostly Asia Yikes|1 The question is How much room does the world healthcare system have for this to keep growing until it collapses If you dont test it you dont have it Until is too late|0 Contact the principal or school district and find out what the plan is in the event it continues getting worse I work at an early learning center in Illinois and all 7 current cases are about an hour away but the administration has a plan as of this week The CDC has some great guides on how schools can prepare for a pandemic flu such as the coronavirus The administration at my center passed out one covering early childhood education settings and required everyone to read it After reading it I confirmed that they plan to follow the recommendations covered in the guide|1 If the conclusions in these papers were true how would that change whatever action youre currently taking vis a vis the virusAnd I disagree that we should simply accept what we have Bad information is worse than no information|0 It doesnt say he went to cardiac arrest tho |0 I am currently pregnant and not in my 3rd trimester yet which is when most data from China is from ie pregnant women in their 3rd trimester who were infected the studys primary purpose was from my understanding the rate of infection to the unborn childdo you have any information on the severity of illness in pregnant women in less than their 3rd trimester or any tips on preventative measures beyond what we hear repeatedly|0 It is right now at least on the UK versionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPatrickVallance Im sure itll vanish imminently though|1 Everyone says were seeing the tip of the iceberg with tons of mild cases out there and true cfr is much lower than reported I highly doubt this is the case There are likely fewer cases than people think You dont want this virus in you trust me Read any of the papers about SARSnCov2 Even if youre healthy and young you dont want to risk it if you dont have to Dont be complacent Protect yourself and your older loved ones|1 Concur with your reasoning but I think you underestimate and it looks like numbers double roughly every 4 days or so in early stages of an outbreakMy best guess is 600 in WA probably 3000 in each coastThere are some things we can do but arent doing quarantine aged care facilities to keep CoV out and protect them all frontline medical staff should wear full PPE N95 eyewear face shields test a lot more especially at hospitals aged care facilities schools transit hubs driveby test centers avoids people sitting in a clinic coughing on each other wear masks in public to prevent face touching and contain coughed droplets wear elective non prescription eyewear elbow bump not handshake wash hands avoid crowds restaurants concerts elective travel work from home if possible take holiday leave if possible definitely self quarantine if experiencing any flu temp or dry cough symptoms all forms of social distancing eg visit granny but talk thru the glass door defer elective surgeryThe list goes on but basically its a numbers game the goal is to help slow down the spread so medics can handle the loadContact tracing will help for a while then at some point only full lockdown will likely slow it Maybe we have 2 weeks before that will happen given human behavior only take action based on fear after we see a local event|1 No checks in Amsterdam today|0 according to this interesting article httpsblogsprucehealthcomcoronaviruswhosgoingtodieChronic respiratory issues have about a 6 CFR however this is greatly dependent on age and other comorbidities|1 If you can lose 60 pounds do it NOW|0 Exactly My kid was in PICU for a week with RSV last year Im super concerned about how this is being handled|1 True but I bet 60 cases would fill a hospital ICU up generally especially with this situation since they have to go into moonsuit mode and everything slows down testing is slow more coming in Thats a scare scene for any large or medium sized city|0 I think a lot of people need to understand that no mask will offer 100 protectionBut we also need to inform that even the most basic protection is better than nothing|1 From what I understood it was 2 Chinese coworkers Or did I get that part wrong|0 total of confirmed Pneumonia is a pretty severe condition to begin with and only the mildest cases dont need hospitalization|1 There is no such plan actually called Obama care If your state expanded medicade all of this would be covered Anything proven medically nessacary is You might need prior auth for some things And just like with all insurance plans you can appeal decisionsMaybe your state didnt expand and you have some gimped non ACA plan|1 Its a long complicated story but basically no I had to take a bunch of time off last yearabout 5 months for personal reasons and didnt have healthcare during that time|0 I wouldnt The bill passed overwhelmingly well in the house By both parites 40 Republicans voted no but there was still more that voted yes|1 Yup But with the correct dosage respecting the known limits itll be helpful Im afraid that people will start to take this drug without medical prescription and are going to get very sick If it helps to reduce the impact on the icu itll be a game changer|1 Ive got teenagers There is no way I can afford to buy 6 months worth of food to feed them|0 The study suggesting this two strains is reaaally not scientific They only had like 100 reference patients Time will Tell|1 Everyone saying it wasnt a big deal as if viral infections dont spread like wildfire Should have been taken seriously properly prepared for once a lockdown was announced in Wuhan that was an unprecedented move|0 Not that I know of I was told by health dept that only state labs have them I dont know what that means Im hoping once I go in tomorrow they are able to work something out to order a test|1 I suspect if your phone is waterproof 90 alcohol in a spray bottle would do the trick and evaporate quickly|0 The pyramids will always be there but you will not Take care of you|0 Well shitHopefully not literally|1 And yet I read somewhere else that the morbidity rate for young people is still much higher than the regular flu|0 This one is much better thank you|1 I got tested today The doctor at the hospital first said that they would call and try to get a test Two hours later after calling around she came in and told me that a one in a million thing has happened I got you a test Im the first person in that hospital whos not critical or serious condition to get tested|1 YES IT IS WORTH A SHOT|1 Or just simply forgotten about|0 There is no dumb moves only what we saw|0 To be fair our doctors are decent really the system is just a piece of shit Full disclosure am doctor|0 They still arent reacting Only one other person I work with is batting an eye after these announcements Everyone else is making fun of us for wanting to be prepared One person says they dont even want to know about the announcements Its privilege They havent had to care about issues before and wont until it is directly affecting them|1 I live in Florida Do you know the crazy shit people do during hurricanes|0 Were any of them flu shots|0 Ive had some nasty anxiety today Honestly I think most of it was related to the facts that my university is on spring break my closest friends are away and Ive got pretty much nobody to talk to inperson it was a rainy and rather dreary day outside so I didnt really leave my roomhouse and I spent a massive chunk of the day heading about the disastrous day on the stock markets and reading the various coronavirus subredditsDistracting myself with my favorite TV show and later my favorite video game helped a good bit as did texting my girlfriend once she wasnt busy this evening The news and coronavirus subs certainly feedback looped my anxiety so Ill be staying away from those for a while|1 Its the same with Italy Everywhere in Europe we saw new cases popping up from travelers when they just had a few hundred cases That just doesnt seem very likelyBut then the question is What are we missing South Korea does large scale testing and the CFR isnt that much off Are the tests just not positive for these cases|0 they wouldnt accept that they lost the initiative by not enforcing lockdown a week back they will NEVER accept they were wrong we need luck loads of luck|0 Do you think that by delaying actions compared to other countries when they were at a similar phase France is going to experience the same situation as Italy Here we still attend crowded College despite having hundreds of confirmed cases in the region people are still free to travel back and forth to cluster cities I just dont get it|1 Thats the thing Disney will never make enough money Corporations are legally structured in a way that precludes them from every making enough money or prioritizing anything besides making more|1 I am actually in disbelief that markets are still completely ignoring this thing|0 Theyre going to kill these people this is wuhan all over again|0 Yes This needs to be higher up Have you considered posting this in a parent comment|1 Also how long the virus can suvive in direct sunlight Like If I buy something and cant rub alcohol or bleach on it how long should I put it out for the UV to take care of the bad guys|1 I love the Dont buy masks They wont keep you from getting this and also we need them to keep medical staff from getting this|1 And about 400 recovered You are making people panic and death rate is also decreased from past 3 days I think virus is done nowIt cant spread in AMERICAS and Europe because there are only dozen cases and they have been closely monitored some of them have even recovered|0 Its insane that tests are so limited My country Austria 8 million inhabitants has tested 7000 people already with 100 confirmed cases Everbody who has fitting symtoms can call the corona help line and get tested at home Everybody with flu like symptoms who doesnt have the flu ist routinely tested What the fuck America|0 My mom casually strolled through BWIs TSA from Toronto and declared fever and symptoms and was waved on shes out there with symptoms just walking around since February 25 |1 To be honest Im finding the corrupt government pandemic to be scarier than any virus|1 Hospitalacquired infectionA hospitalacquired infection HAI also known as a nosocomial infection is an infection that is acquired in a hospital or other health care facility To emphasize both hospital and nonhospital settings it is sometimes instead called a health careassociated infection HAI or HCAI Such an infection can be acquired in hospital nursing home rehabilitation facility outpatient clinic diagnostic laboratory or other clinical settings Infection is spread to the susceptible patient in the clinical setting by various means PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Well at least Trump hasnt made any indications that messaging about this virus go through the administration firstWait|1 I know its tough but Im practicing keeping all the info to myself because I realize she doesnt want to hear it Ill let her learn at her own pace She scrolls fb alot so it may be delayed|0 How did that shit even start Who said WE NEED TO BUY ALL THE TOILET PAPER Im on my last roll of toilet paper and cant find any any fucking where|0 It is really sad how many smart young minds will be affected by this They are throwing away their health by risking COVID19|0 im in Beijing been working for a month Traffic jam every morning since gov encourage driving instead of public transporting But Ill take subway tomorrow because of the traffic jam Cities outside Hubei province or adjacent provinces were never locked down as many redditors presumed but people still didnt want to travel because theres simply no where to go restaurantmovie theaterski resortetc all shut and if you still decide to travel youll be testedregistered and get extremely annoyedThats a major misunderstanding of lock down in China exhubei Its making you nowhere to go instead of ban transportations|0 Curious about this too I keep hearing symptoms are mild but Im wondering if that means annoying but you can still take care of your kids and get bye staying home of course or if it means you have a fever and are knocked out and unable to function but wont die|1 Im thinking this may change work culture forever Home working will become a massive thing if its shown productivity is just as good or betterCompanies will realise that for some professions they can save money on office space reduce risk of illness and reduce their carbon footprint and will go for it in a big way after this|1 Friend of mine says the FB Marketplace of Montreal is filled with over priced supplies Ill vote assholes|0 Showers and bidets exist Better than paper manufactured by an infected guy stocked by an infected teenager and handled by some infected old cashier lady|0 Yeah they contained it with extremely draconian measures such as the military enforcing a mandatory lockdown in most citiesWhat Im saying is we should be encouraged by south Koreas progress theyve delayed the massive spike in fatalities when their medical system is overran But their outbreak is still in early stages We dont know how bad it will be yetThe danger is being overrun as you say Once they point hits well we know what happens Italy happens South Korea has done a fantastic job at delaying that|1 Id say that the sole fact that the COMMUNIST party encourages the pusuit of wealth indicates that something went very wrong somewhere|1 What theyve been doing these days is to knock on peoples doors and claim that theyve got a fever If they refuse entry the team will enter by force and drag them out and chuck them into an ambulance|0 Totally I have 2 in my cart as well I was interpreting the information as this will work in preventing you from contracting it in the first place but not necessarily effective in fighting it once the virus has taken hold However it does make sense that it would put a tamper on severity as well Im not really in a financial situation where I can spend that money if Im not at least pretty sure it will be effective or have other negative side effects I already have GI issues which were one of the side effects listed but I wish you and your loved ones the best if youre in a situation where you do take them|1 There was no million test kits They were saying that in press conferences and in reality there were less than 100000 being prepared They never produced a million test kits that Im aware of|0 Because its literally in the process of collapsing right now in some places|0 Max Bernier would have shut that shit down but the majority of Canadians refuse to vote for anyone whos competent|0 This is the best comment Ive read in a long while |1 Dr John Camplell says Italy has 453 confirmed 12 dead Thats 26 dead of the confirmed me Maybe there could be many unconfirmed And that its clear that Italy has had it spreading for at least 23 weeks Im assuming its already in the US|0 TobaccoUse Disparity in Gene Expression of ACE2 the Receptor of 2019nCov preprinthttpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051v1In the comment section this question is asked but the author stated that causality was unclearNicotine and the reninangiotensin systemhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6295500From which I took that it was nicotine itself that was problematicVaping cannabis flower at temperatures below the benzene threshold 200 C 392 F is probably the safest of all options But it is probably even better if you avoid inhaling very hot gases altogether If it makes you cough it is irritating the lungsMy personal riskbenefit analysis is that micro dose or low dose THCCBD flower is okay for me because of a number of mental health benefits|1 Its only been 3 or 4 weeks since the first case in the USA It is way too early to be saying Pneumonia not on the rise The virus is currently spreading and things will only look worse especially for cities with milder climates Portland Seattle NYC etc will be at high risk|0 Oh sorry I was in live discussion mode and i cold only answer that way|0 DoD has already banned all travel of personnel until like May 15th so yes fiances sister isnt coming|1 Hell yea I dont think people really comprehend how bad this is The numbers arent foing down they are going up exponentially and will continue to go up as we keep shutting stuff down The service industry is done like holy fuck This is the greatest case for automation that weve ever seen and the capitalism killer at the same time There is absolutely no faith in our leaders made clear by the stocks tanking|0 Well thats infuriating|0 Any country that reacted prudently and shut borders down in late January aggressively tested and isolated their few cases would have had an opportunity for a manufacturing boom exporting supplies to the rest of the world experiencing corona supply shortages|0 what we know is right is preparing for this when people warned about it ie a long time ago|0 They also need to strongly regulate traditional medicine practitioners and have oversight into the manufacture of these potions|1 Thanks Im in Tampa and it seems like everyone is super focused on spring break next week instead|1 Im a millennial who has sacrificed a lot to progress and lead teams but ok Ill take that as a compliment because my attitude and mindset has ensured a high quality of life for myself and family going forward Im sorry you have been left in the dust but I cant help those who do not want to help themselves|0 Dont ruin their fun|1 I have started to actively assume my hands will be contaminated when I get on the bus So I force myself not not touch my face phone pockets or basically anything until I can clean my hands Id recommend it to everyone|1 This estimate is based on a 1 death rate which seems very optimistic to me|0 Its scary see you over in rcollapse that subs stock is up right now|0 Nations that are being honest with their people Germany Canada are predicting 3070 infection rates the low end of that for the 350 million in the US is about 100 million And yes the other end of that range is 23 sick instead of 13 which I think our bumbling response has ensured|1 A company from Tianjin announced 2 weeks ago that they built a microfluidic chip that can detect 16 different airborne pathogens including COVID19 Im not sure what the accuracy is though Im skeptical of the accuracy of microfluidic chip based tests The signalnoise ratio cant be comparable to a PCR test|0 H1N1 killed half a million people worldwide Coronavirus is at 6500 and while its bound to get worse saying that h1n1 isnt even close to covid19 is wrong|0 Well see if you quit|1 i like it|1 Be strong Make it normal|1 But the bus transmission case was more than four meters distance in China all captured and analyzed on cctvAuthorities advise people to stay 12 metres apart but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 45 metres awayThe scientists behind the research said their investigation also highlighted the importance of wearing face masks because of the length of time it can lingerhttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasciencearticle3074351coronaviruscantraveltwicefarofficialsafedistanceandstay|0 Two things to consider for people who might smoke1 Former smokers are underrepresented too2 The smokers who did get sick seemed to be in the severely ill group more oftenSo if it is protective we have no idea how much smoking is required how long you keep the protection after quittingetcIt could be the best thing is to be a former smoker|0 Im a nurse in an ICU in Chicago The last few days patient family members were grabbing handfuls of our masks as they walked through the unit and weve had a shortage We have officially banned visitors from the hospital which is hard on family members but at least we have enough supplies now|0 Top tech companies dont have the supply chain to mass produce in US Its not that simple complex phones need a huge supply chain unavailable on US|1 For older copies of some information the Internet Time Machinehttpswebarchiveorgweb has proven beneficial There are 4 captures of the page availableDate Time06MAR2015515407MAR2000330007MAR20003305 07MAR20003311 httpswebarchiveorgweb20200307003300httpswwwesicmorgcovid19updatefromourcolleaguesinnorthernitaly|1 VERY anecdotal and VERY alarmist Keep calm folks be smart and do the right thing|1 It wont go ahead as planned its obvious from the progression They probably didnt cancel it because they are taking care of bigger things|1 Fun fact The bubonic plague is still around Its treatable with antibiotics as long as its caught relatively early|1 Why is that comforting As others have said give it a couple of days and well be right up there too|1 Oh how nice they get the supply chain moving the way its supposed to|1 to be fair id accept 12 hours of no food if it meant i get evacuated|1 Same here Everyone keeps talking about not panicking but IMO at some point in time panic is a pretty reasonable response The other thing that keeps pissing me off is everyone is equating fear with panic No my buying enough stock of food and essentials to stay at home for a month is not motivated by panic Cant say there isnt fear motivating it and there SHOULD be fear motivating it This is a scary thing Its natural to fear for your life and the lives of your friendsfamilyBut Im not melting down or mobbing anyone for the last bottle of hand sanitizer THAT would be panic Im being cautious Though I admit anytime I think about being in a hospital with a tube down my throat I definitely get some panicked feelings As most people probably should|0 There are a lot of young people in the icu but they survive if theyre healthy just cold or flu No this virus invades the central nervous system and makes you forget about breathing age doesnt matter Theres mild pneumonia too It doesnt happen to everyone but it can|0 I know this is 100 necessary but Im very scared My husband works in the restaurant industry and this will create a huge burden on us However I am grateful that DeWine is taking proactive measures to protect our communities We will all get through this together|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uRepliesNice at 1776 nices2 ulerobinbot at 1573 nices3 uporousasshole at 528 nices131550 uinuit95 at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Nothing you wrote pertains to the original claim When you want to have a conversation about the claim let me know|1 I only know my friend says they cant leave their houseperiod She hasnt mentioned the repercussions though But they must be somewhat severe since she has a pretty big reason to leave I wont say what but she cant She does think the drastic measures are necessary though|1 Lousy testing obviously|0 How many have joined this one Cuz the post qualities are getting weaker NO No one can tell you its safe to take a trip|0 yes|1 Only the dankest Chinese meme is going to stop the coronavirus|0 In Mongolia all the schools universities education centers closed from 1II to 14 People are overreacting too much It seems like the Mongolian government and the people dont care about education Additionally places like a movie theatre park churches closed At the same time some places like bars and karaoke still working public transportbus is still crowded Ofc the face masks are sold out even some people are buying foods for an inventory that might cause artificial scarcity The lunar year celebration is banned All borders with china closed yeap we dont even have confirmed case|1 This would be devastating more than the virus|0 Hell on a regular afternoon in season in Sarasota where I live the beaches are packed During spring break its just ridiculous|0 In My countryGuatemala the first case was discovered like 2 days ago the president has already Made ALL school shut down for 21 days Made ALL religious activities festivals or eventslike concerts shut down all National soccer matches Will be played without public You can only see them through tv internet or radio|1 I forget how long are we suppose to wash our hands|0 As someone who ran his first marathon last week humblebrag another issue is that a marathon is an enormous stress on the body After the run I felt nauseous I had headrush muscle cranps and violent shivers I was dehydrated This is not a good state to encounter any virus|0 Good point Wish they would have said that I was confused|1 1 In HVAC there are unfiltered exhausts on roofs and sides of buildings Should workers wear PPE2 Should air exchange rates be increased for example are they traditionally higher in hospitals than in other crowded places3 Some viruses survive through the wastewater treatment main purpose in wastewater is reduction of biological oxygen demand BOD and nutrients through nitrification of ammonia treatment bacteria uptake and denitrification Cellular pathogens bacteria protists helmiths have to compete with 5000 or so mgL of treatment bacteria in oxidation step Viruses and residual cellular pathogens typically get quenched through chlorination and maturation ponds or groundwater injection residence times WWTPs have equalization ponds to buffer high flows or reduced operating capacity due to broken equipment Consideration should be made to increase hydraulic residence times through the plantsWhile Recycled water RW rules are strict with respect to pathogen presence and mention audits strict compliance standards etc RW streams are largely dependent on the end user because the WWTP provides minimum treatment typically meant for cemeteries and areas not in contact with people The end user of municipalities such as parks fountains golf courses is responsible for last leg treatment such as ozonation ultra filtration and chlorination Sadly this responsibility falls into the hands of people who mainly deal with other aspects of buildings and facilities and the auditing stipulated in the laws never get complete It is up to the RW producer the WWTP to increase their level of treatment|1 I mean I very much agree that wide testing is a good thing so appropriate course of action can be taken especially at the beginning when governments might be underreacting because of false low numbersBut this title is a fallacy Yes SK took action quickly and even people were more prepared and understood what its a stake SARS is still in their memory and there is many cultural differences Italians hug and kiss A LOT more But what is also true that Italian death percentage is a lot higher ALSO because of the way they test Asymptomatic or mild cases dont get tested this means that there is probably 10 times more infected than the numbers show so of course the critical cases and death percentage is higher Also Italian hospitals were overrun In the end there is a lot of factors but I would dare say that the main factor was that SK and its people took serious steps around a week soonerPoint being US should have ramped up testing 2 weeks ago now the phase where you can change the course of the epidemic with more tests is gone|1 Id be happy if it were true|1 Disgusting individual|0 Born Malaysian always a Malaysian Apa khabar and how is the Coronavirus situation in Malaysia now Yeah I cant imagine how China has been doing it for few weeks|1 How is South Korea doing BETTER than we in the US and ADid God somehow bless THEM instead of US How is that possible|1 At least the vaccine will be ready soon for the 2015 Ebola epidimic|1 if this is real this is probably the scariest thing ive ever seen fucking straight out of a horror movie in fact i had never seen a scene like this in a horror movie ever|0 Anybody wondering what the antivaxxers are saying about this Any of them change their minds about vaccines Sorry NY Anyone know how it spread to there|0 Doubles every 23 days when shit gets rolling|0 Well when you are wealthy enough to pay 15K for a luxury suit for few days of vacation and repatriation insurance you start to see other people as maggots and as long as youre safe nothing else mattersThey just want to let out of the ship no matter what Not understanding that its quarantine Imagine if they let them go to the US and asked them to self isolate Do you think theyd respect that or jeopardize everyone else|1 Fine I should just use we instead|1 K cool dont go to a hospital if you cant breathe or consume goods like electricity or water or food |1 I ordered my food today the hell with the market|0 I am so relieved to not have to drop my kids off to school after tomorrow Cant believe Im saying this but Dewine has my respect|1 Its ironic because the losses could be so big here in Q1 that we actually go up in Q2 and technically avoid a recession|0 I think its more because basketball players have had contact with arena staff media and fans Not to mention other NBA players coaches and assistant personnelIf an NBA player has the coronavirus as Rudy Gobert does they can theoretically spread it to many more people than the average individual Tack on their relentless travel schedule the fact that they stay in hotel rooms and their propensity to experience a citys nightlife and its fully justifiable that theyre getting tested immediately|1 My missus works for the NHS and shes running large meetings and training courses all next weekThere is no plan apart from work until you drop|0 Weve functioned in war times with strict limitations on commodities The virus is likely going to hit different places at different times People will be sick or die but the majority will return to work after a couple weeks and the spikes in cases will vary over time geographically Yes places may shut down for a few months but other parts of the world will not yet be effected or will be starting to recover Im not sure how much disruption will happen with basic necessities like food production But we can likely survive a couple months Id be more concerned with medically necessary manufacturing and other healthcare related disruption Long term I think this may result in lots of changes economically but not necessarily long term recession As depressing as this sounds crises often open up new markets and opportunities for growth I think there might be major disruption and shake ups of wealth distribution but overall that can actually contribute to economic growth Or maybe Im just trying to naively look on the bright side of something I have no control over|0 biomed VCwant people to think an epidemic is worse than it isHmm wonder why|0 I can respect that hustleGotta get those Internet points Gotta get on that grind|1 Yea if I have to Ill just say I went to a Utah Jazz game with Tom hanks and Justin trudeaus wife|0 By all measure outside of china its fully contained Zero evidence its a grave concern outside of China|0 This sub has some fairly strict modding no newssciencefacts get posted here from unverified sources This is not strangers on reddit|0 Yeah all three were enormously wealth and only Crassus was lacking military sense Rip the Parthian campaign|1 Show them data I was one of those guys and Im Italian I changed my mind when I undestood that the problem is not the viruss lethality but the fact that hospitals can not withstand that many people getting sick at the same time Yes in most cases its like the flu I currently have the flu I dont think its the CoViD 19 but for precaution Im staying at home but in a 10 of the cases it is not We have to avoid hospitals getting overloaded or else the death rate will increase drastically|0 I havent been out for over a week Spring break but we are supposed to report to school tomorrow to see if we can convert our classes online My sister works at a nearby Dollar General in rural Missouri the town population is under 1500 Friday they had an influx of people from out of town buying up everything The horde drove over an hour away from Kansas City to buy and were very happy to say so I do not know if they were just hoarding or planning to resell This wasnt a single group either But all surrounding little towns stores were also hit|1 Yes but it also has an extra 6 billion people it can infect and 40 million people with HIV not to mention disruption of drug supplies cancer treatment ect In 1918 people were used to pandemics war famine ect They had more psychological resilience|0 They will realize it when they start seeing people drop on the streets and die in their own households Until then we fight the fight and encourage isolation When the initial wave is over we can then have controlled exposure to allow the rest get infected to build up on herd immunity until better treatment options or a vaccine|0 I think that what youre seeing is secondary to the USs culture of individualism Theres definitely a stronger push to have people look after themselves rather than become wards of the state but people also realize that bad things can happen to good people and so they will come together in times of crisis to help Essentially theres less reliance on the government in both good and bad times|0 Oh and you want open borders |1 Its not Its a frog used in memes Its like saying Mickey Mouse is a Nazi because he is used in memes|1 Wuhan held a record breaking banquet of 40000 families not people but entire families right before they announced the lockdown this is a huge reason for the spread|1 Wow Definitely sounds like something we could only do for a few patients at a time|1 There is no point in staying inside You can and should go outside Virus particles love the indoors but dont spread as effectively outdoors This obviously means that you still need to practise distancing 2 meters|0 Pls share the masks Actually cannot find any in NYC|1 There is no evidence of immunity but there are no proven cases of reinfection either The tests are only 88 accurate so the cases that are being cited as reinfection may have been false negatives We just dont know either way Thats not to say that if there is a mutation we could be fucked again anyway|0 Edited typo here 23 increase in total confirmed infection from from Feb 2nd to Feb 3rd Hubei onlya drop from 26 increase from Feb 1st to Feb 2ndextra reference confirmed infected increased by 21 from Jan 31st to Feb 1st confirmed infected increased by 20 from Jan 30th to Jan 31st confirmed infected increased 28 from Jan 29th to Jan 30thSource httpsbnonewscomindexphp202002thelatestcoronaviruscaseshttpsbnonewscomindexphp202002thelatestcoronaviruscases28 20 21 26 23Trend heading towards stability|0 Its interesting but the fact that the results werent reproduced see the study I linked is concerning Given that lopinavir can have rough side effects diarrhea being a big concern given the importance of staying hydrated and the fact that their population sample wasnt using just lopinavir Im not sure that its safe to draw any conclusions Beyond that the clinical study section refers to an open and nonrandomized study with a fairly small sample sizeIts entirely possible that ribavirin lopinavir could produce favorable outcomes but success rates for drug testing is usually really low It would be a really really cool miracle of antiretroviral cocktails generalize to coronaviruses but given the mixed evidence and tendency for these things to fail its fair to be skeptical|1 If we dont self isolate and shit down our communities for the next 60 days then this will drag out for 67 months or longerTheres no cutting corners on this We dont stop the transmission we die our families die our markets wont recoverStay The Fuck Home|0 I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if i did this Might even commit suicide|0 City says it will provide childcare for health workers curious to see how that rolls out|1 Thank you I needed to hear this|1 This is heartbreaking I am so sorry about what you are going through and I truly hope this all turns around soon Thanks for sharing your story and a fresh perspective that hopefully comes more to light|1 Im not sure this is a good idea Donate lots And lots Money is not moving Its worthless soon Food shelter clothing thats our new reality|1 This is great thanks OP Great to see this visualised Interesting that even with low CFR in the young it actually has a significant impact compared to normal mortality in that age group Least impact for your 35 year olds that start having natural uptick in mortality but still very low covid case fatality|0 Your husband is about to go work extra to help the country survive this dire issue and you took the time to denigrate him on an anonymous website|0 Well I mean except for those Italians who broke quarantine to go skiing or travelling|0 I used worldometers as a source in my reddit post Did you see the links lol|1 Shake the container The BAK benzyl ammonium chloride pools at the bottom Shake it and keep it upside down for a bitAlways works for me|0 Whats the point of even hiding it anymore They are just delaying the inevitable|0 BTWI still think about this band name from time to time Nice|1 Not everywhere 13th amendment is an outlier and other western countries do not have forced prison labour|1 elderberry and beta glucans a good base|1 Keeping the economy going is pretty fucking important If everything crashes then supply lines disappear and the shops and services will close This in turn would lead to lawlessness looting and rioting across the country and ultimately even more people will die Dont assume that keeping the markets alive is just for the good of the rich It keeps some semblance of order in the population|1 It would actually not be evolutionary advantageous for the virus to mutate into a deadlier strain given that the longer the host is alive the longer the virus can remain aliveThis was not the case for example with the Bubonic Plague or Ebola The plague made lesions and Ebola makes one bleed out so that contamination resulted from the touching of fluids excreted from infected people In those cases making a more lethal form with lesions and bleeding out would actually HELP spread the virus|1 How are you roasting the green stuff Im using the popcorn popper method but would like to graduate to something where I can roast in larger batches|1 From the reportwhile experience in China and now South Korea show that suppression is possible in the short term it remains to be seen whether it is possible longterm and whether the social and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be reducedSuppression while successful to date in China and SouthKorea carries with it enormous social and economic costs which may themselves have significant impact on health and wellbeing in the short and longerterm Mitigation will never be able to completely protect those at risk from severe disease or death and the resulting mortality maytherefore still be high interventions can limit transmission to the extent that little herd immunity is acquired leading to the possibility that a second wave of infection is seen once interventions are liftedFigure 2 models that the most effective strategy for reducing pressure on health care is social distancingcase isolationhome quarantine for the over 70s the main group likely to have serious complications They also show that closing schools and universities has the least positive impact of all strategiesHowever this optimal mitigation scenario would still result in an 8fold higher peak demand on critical care beds over and above the available surge capacity in both GB and the USThe diagrams showing us easily getting below health system spare capacity by maybe doubling the duration by a few months extra are wishful thinking The more successful a strategy is at temporary suppression the larger the later epidemic is predicted to be in the absence of vaccinationdue to lesser buildup of herd immunityThe longer we put off infection the more likely people are to be in a weakened state due to prolonged lock downs|1 He refused Seriously people should start to be responsible for this kind of selfish acts Like fuk others Im not infected ofc cause Im superior fuk that People should go to jail This should be a crime cause theres always a change someone dies because of that kind of crappy atitude|0 Youre braver than most of us for wearing a freaking full face respirator my dude But in a way its the right thing to do|1 Are there any studies regarding permanent damage due to virus after recovering or is it too early to tell|0 Dont worry ThE RiSk rEmaIns LoW|1 Nice try BezosI will not get into the wage cage|1 I think you mean reasonable worst case scenario symptoms|0 Cruises are cool and all but definitely not worth dying over|1 Disney almost never closes Disneyland announced their closure first ofc right after Newsom said theme parks were exempt from the gathering guidance Disneyland has only ever had two unscheduled closures for the JFK assassination and for 911 Other than that all closures have been closed rather related WDW has only for extreme weather and 911 The second Disney announced theyd be closing everything in LA started following suit|0 I live in King County WA A bit off topic but I had a respiratory ailment about 34 weeks ago It came on pretty quick had a dry hacking cough with some production and for the first time in my 50 years I was wheezing while breathing normally I had body aches headache but never registered a fever though I only checked once or twice No sinus issues really My wife had something similar about week earlier but had a fever that spiked a few times Never went to the doctor just stayed home well I work from home 95 of the time and Im mostly recovered now but still have a somewhat pesky cough especially late in the day Now that theyre saying that the virus has been around in WA maybe as far back as January my gut tells me I may have had COVID19 but its too late to do anything helpful nor would knowing that have really affected my treatment or outcome unless perhaps I went critical Guess well never know but its a bit unnerving to wonder if I did have it and what impact its had on others|1 Boris said about the elderly social distancing themselves Getting family and friends to drop shopping off at the door|1 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 I never share stuff like this on Facebook or even post anymore but I just did I felt some sort of strange responsibility to share this doctors message and hope we start taking things more serious than we are now People are still joking about this in Ontario my wife has called me crazy some friends laugh at me when I bring it up Ive overheard colleagues say haha do you think youre actually going to actually get Corona|1 BMI over 40 is morbidly obese stage 3BMI 2530 is overweight|0 Holy shit thats wild|0 Knowingly exposing people to a deadly pathogen should be a crime At very least its assault This isnt California|0 41 deaths More people died in car accidents yesterdayYou all are trippingIf youre not really old or really sick or both its not that scaryEven those odds are sub 4 percent|0 Thats some next level psychopathy Someone has stolen them to sell on Ebay or WeChat I hope theyre caught and go to jail|0 Its a meme some grinning and winking dude taking a selfie with his parents in the back caption the corona only kills the elderly The winking is important|0 How are you feeling now I thought I was better but after a day at work it feels like its started to go to my chest Wish Id never gone in|1 I love how all of these people are doing really simple math and are using it to disprove the CDC like they are stupid|1 My moms been sharing text messages about NYC too I find it hard to believe a random text but its about as reliable as the news nowadays What do I believe|1 God I have been watching this for months and prepared for it here with my family in America but somehow I had never thought of it this way and damn thats depressing as fuck|0 Thank you for taking actionit looks I can still put it into my cart S|1 I know this is a full on conspiracy thought and Im not claiming I think what Im implying is true butits awfully convenient for the people who suppressed his truths that hes now no longer going to make trouble for them when all this is over Suspiciously convenient|0 Whats the point of deep cleaning if the virus cant survive for more than a few hours on hard surfacessigh security theatre|1 If these numbers are accurate they are optimistic compared to my expectations|1 Being worried and panicking are two different things though One done right and in moderation can help during an epidemic The other wont help in any situation makes you act irrational and can overwhelm resources faster than an actual epidemic So he is write in saying that panicking is bad He never said he was not worried|0 We planned a trip to Rome next week Not a problem cancelling via Airbnb Already have the money back on my creditcard|1 No one is being forced to house troops I was clowning the now removed alarmist comment above mine|0 Apparently we have a different definition of the word affectedThey are affected being less likely to show symptoms has nothing to do with if they were Also they do get as sick its just more rare|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Pretty sure thats where BNO pulls their info from|1 Or as china says resolved|1 I think with many of our government officials being appointed it is likely more fear of reprisalespecially since the cleansing our leader did after impeachment hearings This pandemic probably hit us at the worst possible time in our history|0 So should everyone stop eating Youre aware that your local grocery store has an entire supply chain behind it right|0 Theyre outdated No one likes manuals|1 People have jobs lol|1 are we going to die from supply chain collapse my dad is worried sick about it and i worry he could have a heart attack from it hes already had some panic attacks is there anything i can do to calm him down we have some food stocked up already and he is planning to buy sprouting seeds|0 Probably because Netflix made the call Pretty sad when companies care more about public health than our governments|1 if we want to continue lives as we know it probably we need to open almost everything back and learn to live with it theres news if some treatments theres no other option but thats all can be done flatten the curve and the move on|0 I know 2 people about to take vacations out of province 1 in country and 1 out of country and they are stubborn about going Thankfully I know more people cancelling their vacations particularly to the US|0 Alcohol lowers your immunity|0 Yeah they are closing our borders|1 Yup 100 correct How are so many having such a hard time understanding this basic FACTTRUTH|0 Weve come full circle Criticising him for his actions Now this exact this is happening even worse on our own soil|0 Good point|1 They could have been on Bipap or high flow oxygen systems such as vaporthermoptiflow The latter are great at treating isolated hypoxic respiratory failure|0 Its looking to me like itll have to be multiple hospital collapsing to Q People dieing in the streets bodies stacking up When not doing something threatens social order I just pray we dont get there but I cant see it going any other way besides dumb luck or weather We have got to have some of the most liberal control measures in place We basically havent done anything or tested anyone You therefore have to assume it will get this bad|0 Which still isnt just a flu I assumed it was gonna drop to 5 but thats still 108 times deadlier than the flu|1 Holy shit thats a massive weapon|0 the only option is to get infected react early stay at home keep the fever at 38 C and get immunity for some time|0 All Europe in two weeks Darkness ahead of us Winter is coming|0 I stopped at aolcom|0 No but its fair to count deaths from traffic accidents who couldnt be helped in time because the ambulances and EDs were overloaded|0 That Imperial College paper is interesting because it states CFR in Hubei as 18 whereas outside Hubei its 1 Thats the worst case scenario number for countries whose health care systems could be overwhelmed by patients needing oxygen and ventilators I assume ECMO machines would be hard to come by in Iran Iraq and Pakistan so expect massive fatalities there|0 Thats 17 of those already sick enough to get a test at all The Italian city sample of all 3000 residents showed that 5075 are asymptomatic thus wouldnt even get tested in the USSo no Mr Cuomo its 17 of 25 or 425 which is about what WHO and CDC have been saying all along Moron|0 Yeah that was fucked eh|0 Gg boys|1 A sister in law thought now was a good time to invest in the stock market but if the predictions are true it would have been better to wait|1 This is fake news hun Youre just a sheep brainwashed by Big Pharma Ask me how you can detox your body with steamed essential oil cleanses of certified therapeutic grade products and powders that will clear your acne cure your cancer and eliminate your gout psoriasis autism diabetes high blood pressure and urinary tract infections Work from home Lots of great things on the horizon Take the challenge Become a bossbabe s in case anyone actually takes this seriously|0 Im over here trying to pray it away Im doing my part|1 The Onion was supposed to be satire not a goddamn prophecy|1 Even during WWII not a single bomb dropped on your home continent Thats why you just voted in a fascist Never experienced the consequences of one We had tens of thousands of bombs raining down on London in 194041You will know what a fascist is capable of soon enough though especially when Trump wins again in November|1 Right Sorry didnt mean to imply that he wasnt The title had the editorial Might I just point out a perfectly healthy 35 year old was hospitalised with Pneumonia Thats the biggest news piece of the day imo and thats what I was addressingThat is age is an input into the effects of 2019nCoV as regards death but Ive no reason to believe that its surprising for someone of any age to get pneumonia from it|1 we called your pcp and checked local ERs they have no record of you is preponderance of evidence|0 Kinda dangerous to say that Korea has reported that it reduces severity as well|0 I dont trust any government organizations or mainstream corporations for data and fact especially that of the US government Am in california|0 You dont want to breathe in the bedroom air when Im in there More than once Ive loaded up on chili at the Boston Logan airport and the arrival airport pays the price Youd be wishing you had coronavirus|1 Just popping in to say that currently this virus is known to take it easy on even babies The younger you are the more you need not worry unless you have underlying health issues like respiratory issues heart issues diabetes or hypertension Check out worldometersinfo s Coronavirus page|1 He wants to be the Churchill who saved his country and guided it through a turbulent period and war into prosperityWhat he is is Gallipoli Churchill who helped cause a disaster and tens of thousands of deaths|0 Good luck I hope youll get through this ok|1 For the sake of discussion can i still get it on top of my seasonal coldflu if Im exposed to it|1 The CDC has instructions for optimizing Basically do not get them wet be careful and do the best you can httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcprespiratorsupplystrategieshtml|1 Maybe this is a dumb question but how is it getting into prisons Are they still allowing visitors in|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I live in a south Florida and it really seems like business as usual plus tons of people on spring break Im staying inside unless its absolutely necessary to leave|1 I imagine businesses get fined for staying open or having too many people around Individual patrons wont be the targets since there are too many to keep track of but the national guard could probably patrol businesses effectively enough|1 Once you show symptoms for rabies youre already dead though|0 I can relate to this as well I have all the symptoms shortness of breaths coughing tiredness body aches except the fever On top of that I have a shit immune system and has a history of contacting a lot of flu when I travel In my country you can be turned away during the initial screening just like your sister My biggest fear now is that Ill be tested positive since I know its very likely anyway but that Im actually positive but was never actually testedAlso my retarded school refused to close even though many schools throughout the entire nation had been closed left and right Its likely because my school is very academicfocused and with the IGCSE exam coming they cant risk losing precious study time So I cant just stay home either|0 Heck the CDC and World Heath Organisation are telling people to prepare and I still get funny looks|1 To be fair shits gonna start getting really really fucking bad In a few months those memories might be really preciouswere gonna have two lives now before and after coronaI know every action is gonna save lives but kids deserve at least one last taste of normal before we go to hell|0 Yeah well if you dont trust it and are asking the op for more then do your own goddamn research and figure it out|0 Everybody talking about how China was lyingBut ignore the big differenceHad Italy sent 40k around doctornurse to QZDid Italy had a medical team like ShangHai bring 80 ECMO to HuBeiDid Italy had CT scan 200 times a dayDid Italy coverd all cost for those who have heathcare there was a new days ago a patient pull off ECMO back to mild cases spent 700k RMB including ECMO fee and all had coverdDid Italy had geographic depth like ChinaDoes Italy build mobile hospital with ten of thousands bed for mild cases and two other hospital to heavy casesAnd their are so many so many differences Im not telling hereYes HuBei officers are almost all twats at the beginning and they still are Whole country have that thought to So they punished by reality and the central goverment The central goverment acting fast and try everything they can to save more peopleAnd they shared everything to the world as soon as they can In personal I shared some experiences on Reddit too for helping people Whats everyhone elses excuse Thinking about H1N1 Spanish FluYes amont this still shits happened its not the reason you just look at some numbers and speaking lie this easyTalking about lies We ignore that how many cases diagnos as FLU but actually are COVID19 in United States Month and month passed how many cases did you test And what did they say about thisI know propaganda affects everyoneincluding you and me But please do not judge so quicklyx200BBe safe and if you could help someone reach your hands or be kind at least|1 Heres something Blow your fairy cloud father out your ass No need to respond Drift back into your fairytale and piss off|0 98 on average probably much higher if you are younger than 60 dont smoke and are otherwise healthy|1 Freedom was not a mistake Freedumb was a mistake This selfish idiocy wasnt the purpose behind 1776 or the storming of the Bastile Democracies are not just mob rule We are supposed to be an enlightened citizenry capable of electing representatives who help write laws that prevent our worst instincts We live in a dystopia Social distancing is only necessary when private society has to pick up the slack left by an inactive inattentive kakistocracy|1 It sounds like you are just hating on Boris for hatings sake tbh|0 Its the heat UV but its still going to flare up The main issue though is whether the dampening coefficient of warmer weather is than the viral coefficient between hostsIf its a 05 dampening due to heat but viral coefficient is 3 were still at 15x effective viral coefficient which is still exponential Its just a shallower curve Can still have a MASSIVE negative impact especially if weve already at a large number of infections in the US|1 My full time job is caring for my elderly mother with Multiple Sclerosis Im imagining converting the attached garage into sally port for spraying bleach on anything coming into the house|1 I wouldnt call it prescient Gates has been working to combat diseases for awhile now Its unique to his I think pretty accurate worldview|1 Worried that theyll shut down the airport|0 My main concern is the fact advice is often poorly communicated A person might associate shortness of breath with the infection pain or have a higher pain threshold delaying the need to seek further treatment I was also diagnosed with viral infection in the lungs but was offered no treatment and told to return in weeks if it worsened No Xray done just a stethoscope reading I understand it can be an effective method to detect pneumonia but I was sure it was onset and might not be prevalent and though a Xray wouldve been more definitiveThe main point being I dont think correct treatment is being given to the vast majority of cases|0 Im going to wear a mask Or they could be SENSIBLE and extend write ins|1 In Downtown Toronto many offices are telling workers to work from home WFH for at least the next 4 weeks It started earlier this week with startups asking their emplyees to WFH then many banks today like RBC not just the Mississauga location and now government offices will follow it seems Retail and services will likely be last but hopefully it doesnt get as bad as ItalyThere are many companies here that are being proactive without any government recommendation|1 I am not so worried about the virus yet more the panic its causing I am in syracuse|0 What good measures His response has been completely inadequate He was calling it a Democrat hoax like a week ago His administration was responsible for bringing some of the first cases into the US He has been entirely worried about the stock market with zero concern for the average AmericanHis response will cost more lives with every day of this incompetence Where the fuck are the tests|0 COVID is the new HIV Pharmaceutical companies sell vaccines better than they sell cures and they need people to buy it in the first place So despite the lines and lines of bullshit and fearmongering that the western press prints against China when it comes to their own country theyd rather just be quiet and let it happenThe hypocrisy|0 Holy shit|0 It would be easier just to learn it than to search for ways to defeat the system If the class is too hard to do honestly you should reevaluate your goals|1 I get shes great and I respect her a lot But if you are talking about person of the year shouldnt it be a whistle blower doctor in China or someone at the front line of China Dr Helen is only responsible for the lives in the US but China is where this all started and the people who warned the world in the beginning deserved more attention|1 It feels like Trump generates a new one at least twice a week|1 Welcome to the American health system we may have the best medical technology in the worldbut fuck its expensive|1 Im terrified|0 Suspectedpossible cases that end up being negative disappear from the CDC list|0 10x m8|1 We arent the most prepared nation Most Americans cant afford two weeks in self imposed quarantine Or the health care costs to get treated if we are sick|0 There is no way this wont destroy communities Wuhan cant be repeated Iran is on a knifes edge|1 He is consistently a dumb fuck nearly 100 of the time He just has a cultIf he wasnt a dotcom darling that had a load of capital fall into his lap he would just be another silicon valley diet chud trying to sell you on bitcoin|0 The first MMR dose isnt typically given until age 12 months in the US and according to google age 8 months in China so you would think there would be a significant bump in cases under that age if this theory holds true I wish we had more data on the ages of patients vs background demographics of each area to determine what ages are disproportionally affected|1 The opportunity for containment was months ago in China IMO we are well past that point This is loose in the population and were going to see more cases The nature of how this virus behaves virtually guarantees that|1 I think there is significant community transmission in many communities in the West Coast When we do more testing we will find more cases Carlos del Rio MD|1 Arizona is getting test kits See if it is in the desert areas here in the next few weeks Yes we also have cold mountain areas|1 so they cant manage to save the life of the director of a hospital in his own fuckin hospital but this is just a flu|0 Congress should fund the development of new tests at State labs University labs and Private labs If CDC cant deliver cut their fund and allocate to other who CAN|1 There is noneyouve got it right Thats the problemthose are the same goddamned numbers Im using and its making me shit my pants Even at the lower revised estimate by the original doctor quoted in the article who projected up to 70 of US infected he later revised it to 2060 the numbers are bonechillingly terrifyingI thought I was crazy last week ordering 3M 62007500series reusable masks and P100 cartridges on Amazon I went to Target in Los Angeles County this evening Thursday 12 March about 1100PMNO bread pasta spaghetti sauce dish soap canned goods paper towels toilet paper any kind of sanitizer or cold medicines I mean NONEI think today the day after the presidents address the shit hit the fan for the Oh its just the flu crowd That and the cancellation of games by major sports leagues Its starting |0 The average age was 81 with the majority having underlying health problemsThat needs to be higher up in the article for all the people suffering from mass hysteria|0 I didnt think about it until you said it Honestly I doubt three fourth of the people Id invite wouldnt show But thats fine I dont want anything huge at all Seriously Nothing big Honestly eloping is appealing|1 Ive also seen cases of the CDC refusing testing and doctors being unable to do it Theres a credible story like that on this subreddit today I was referring to the condition of the hospitals that corroborate the uncited text you posted above|0 citation 8Kumpel BM On the immunologic basis of Rh immune globulin antiD prophylaxis Transfusion 20064691652And citation 9Kumpel BM On the mechanism of tolerance to the Rh D antigen mediated by passive antiD Rh D prophylaxis Immunol Lett 2002821267|1 I mean yes A lot of the time news agencies will have people on the ground verifying things This is basically a blog post based off a Weibo rumor I saw on here yesterday|1 Yes so go to the hospital Dont go to the hospital because you have a fever and a runny nose and only want to be tested for the coronavirus Even if you do have it you would just succeed in spreading it to a bunch of high risk sick patients In the ER|1 Fantastic to hear|1 Im trying to get my folks to join me for online board games theyre getting really bored being cooped up Please Steam run a sale|1 2 seconds of Google outside of Chinese Communist censorship Thefirstknowncase of HIVin a human occurs in a man who died in the Congo|0 Also Trump gutted the CDC and hasnt let them rehire for the losses|0 Correction They want further spread before they close|1 Yes this could explain the whole discrepancy Strange that people are using the number of positive tests as those numbers are completely useless due to diffences in test practices Number of deaths or ICU patients would be better estimates of number of infectedSince so many people coming home from Italy 25 have the virus it seems likely that the real number of infected people are far higher than the number of positive tests Perhaps in the millionsI hope someone with the correct statistics could crush the numbers A better estimate of infected would give better estimates of death rates and estimates of how long this will last 6070 infected|1 Same punishment here in America from what I could find A fine and jail time isnt enough of a punishment for this kind of situation The punishment should scale with the crime especially since 1 infected person can lead to millions|0 Its causing a shortage of masks globallyCan be countered by Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part Ive bought a small contingent of surgical masks for my family I intend to reuse soaking in 70 isopropanol overnight should do the trickWhy the emergency planners world wide with a few exceptions sat on their hands since midJanuary while being unprepared to start with is a very good question which I hope will receive a followup|1 It shouldnt even be up to these companies to close Government should be forcing them to It currently sucks being an American because the government is not treating this seriously enough Just stopping travel from Europe this week Should have banned travel from everywhere before now and only letting citizens to come back and then immediately put under quarantine I have a feeling its going to be really bad here in a months time Not even going to talk about the shit show of lack of testing|0 I have an itchy throat cough and a runny nose but i think its just allergies|0 English All fucked up|0 Whats the plan here I honestly believe they do have one but I just cant figure it out They can only pretend everything is fine by limiting testing for so long and the longer they do it the worse things will ultimately be when it all falls apart Do they want an out of control infection Are they banking on it just going away as the weather warms up like Trump predicted|1 I agree|1 This is such a messy situation One on hand I totally get why people want the schools open at long as possible Their kids are being looked after while theyre at work and so on But then theres this and damn this is crazyIts like theres no right answer The right thing to do is to protect everyone but then its so complicated to do that |1 Trump said we are totally prepared why would we need an epidemic response team when we have the greatest president|1 HBO is going to make a great tv show about this one day|1 Its captain TripsEveryone should focus on their relationship with Christ and preparing for what is to come No amount of meandering through our days ridiculing one another will change what the administration is doing Your votes matter as does the actions you take within your communityEducate others prepare supplies Above all pray|0 Nice save|1 But I havent read many stories about clschools being a main transmission point so i dont think that would slow things down Then what do you do in 3 weeks when situation is a bit worse Keep them closed|0 Regarding the German cases it is no mystery at all if you consider the age distribution of the cases Almost all deaths occur in people 60 years and older and so far very few none of the cases in Germany have been old peoplex200BI have no overview data I can link to with regards to age distribution among German cases but we know that there have been two clusters people working for a company and their children workers are in general very likely 60 years and people who celebrate carnival which should also skew younger x200BEdit Thanks to uNomdeGuerre23 for pointing out that visitors to carnival events like that one do tend to be older I looked for some google images of Karnevalssitzung and people look indeed a bit old Still it has only been two weeks since the event and the illness has not run its course for these people yet but the fact that only the initial spreader is hospitalized does seem to be promising|1 I know right was watching the news last night from the BBC and next thing they are going on about the stock market and hows its affected etc blah blah i get it you need money to fight things like this but they are more worried about their bottom line than us|0 The doublesupersecret text message SUPPOSEDLY from the CDC official to a friend said 32 states 1000 cases suspected|1 My entire family is quarantined Myself my husband and two kids The kids were sick first starting Weds last week My husband is asymptomatic|0 And almost no peep from survivors I dont understand this|0 34 here Never had the flu never had a flu shot Hoping my luck isnt about to run out|1 That honestly seems far more relevant|1 Remember that Iran has a worse medical infrastructure than China and Chinas numbers at that point in the epidemic do seem fairly consistent with Italys numbers|0 Nah its like everyone old white dudes on business college kids the TSA staff|1 Its not the end relax|0 What an odd take All theyve done is blow it up|0 I think so too My package shipped from Los Angeles and LA has no confirmed cases in their amazon warehouses I hope Im safe|1 If you contract it and recover from it whats the chance of contracting it a second time|1 Im Israeli and Orthodox I think we are screwed Generally there is even new Halakha regarding corona virus how to religiously act that had been made several weeks ago generally avoid close quarters cancel gatherings etc Most of Israelis are Orthodox maybe you think about Ultra Orthodox |0 Im scared to go to Costco for grocery shopping its more crowded than ever before|0 Yes but your point is mute There are a lot of unknowns about this virus and a virus by definition is unpredictable especially RNA viruses but it seems that in general people did not learn Washing hands will do you little good if it is airborne and you are sharing the same air as an infected person We should learn from history and treat every virus as dangerous until proven otherwise Now we treat them as harmless until proven otherwise and that attitude is just plain egocentric|1 Type O has already been associated with a lower risk of infection from SARS so this seems quite plausible actually httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed18818423|0 Food stamps are a thing in the US the benefit of feeding kids at school is that their parents cant sell the food they eat like they sell food stamps Its the only way to make sure the kids actually eat when parents are addicted to drugsalcohol|1 Thanks for the reference|1 Please put a source or link here|1 Consider how many of those cases are still active and consider the current mortality worldwide rate 4 it may not end up looking to good in a few weeks|1 My job already shut down Im a baristabartender The longer they put off shutting everything down the longer it will before I can go back to work and have an income again Ive been staying home and practicing social distancing Ive been preaching staying home to everyone I know for the last couple weeks Yet Im here completely fucked by the virus that I dont even have and people are in Miami or whatever living it up like nothing is going on Its insanity|0 what weakness to heat we dont know that yet|0 damn i shouldnt be laughing|0 I am just opening to the possibility that she was not cheating She might have beenAlso not a fan of open relationships but I guess thats me |1 httpswwwnewsmedicalnetnews20200305BestpracticesshowntoprotecthealthcareworkersfromCOVID19aspxVery helpful and datarich article from very mainstream medical journal|1 Bills will likely be suspended for the next 2 months as it already happens after earthquakes or any other catastrophe The government didnt say anything about that tho I sincerely hope they will And soon|0 Americans took their eyes off the massive initial 11m quarantine now a small pansy number because Kobe Bryant died as it happened|0 yeah but they where also welded shut into their apartments|1 My hero I am and have been a PROPER handwashing proselytizer for years and it is exhausting work People are ignorant dismissive and lazy Its appalling|0 fed printing just enough moneyThis just inflates and devalues the dollar if they just pour trillions into households Never going to happen Might have happened in ancient history but Americans are so heavily in debt they cant cover it on their current income on averageI cant see the fed or any other central bank of any country wiping debt Itll just reignite a new debt cycle probably worse because people will have more capital and be granted higher amounts of debt assuming inflation hasnt destroyed the price|0 In parts of India what would be a 3 fatality rate in a modern country is more like 47 because of the lack of medical care or desire to seek it|1 anyone know of a daily tally of no of people tested somewhere|0 thank you i really hope this virus gets confined everywhere in the world nobody deserves this Hope everything turns out well We can only hope and stay safe right now|1 Sorry if Im missing something here but how does this workDo you have to be selfquarantined or does this apply to all Canadians Do you need to have a certain annual income and below Do you apply yourself or is it automatic Again sorry if I completely missed something in the article Im kinda busy currently so i couldnt take a lot of time to read it|0 Agreed A lot of people latch on to how other people react in these situations and mimick behaviour regardless of actual danger|0 Nope I gave up In Canada where there really arent that manyso people arent really concernedexcept all the Asianssince the SARS and now whats happening in SK China HK and Japan at least some ethnicities are taking it more seriously|0 Fuck I am so sorry to hear this|0 Probably not I had a train ticket booked to visit my family in Washington but things just seemed to escalate so quickly and I decided not to go the night before I wouldve been traveling by train and stopped in Seattle and it just didnt seem like the smartest decision|1 Shamed by people who were themselves unprepared They were blindsided while average Joe reddit users knew to prepare and warned everyone that would listen|0 This is what people around seattle have been since since around that time In dec there was always someone talking about how someone in their family or they knew had come down with a weird bad flu|0 How likely is it that the virus will die in the summer heat|0 You can do things like maintaining proper hygiene You can do things to reduce chances of getting the virus Wearing a mask just doesnt reduce those chances Not wearing a mask does not mean you are throwing your hands up and hopingForcing citizens to wear masks is not the main reasons are declining It is because they deployed standard public health measures isolation and tracinghttpswwwvoxcom20203221161067coronaviruscovid19chinaCorrelation causationHealthy person wearing a mask does not prevent him or her from getting sick A sick person wearing a mask helps prevent him or her from spreading the disease China is operating under everyone is sick As experts note that isnt the most effective route Their speed in the ability to isolate people was They lockdowned an entire city ffsThere are myriads of countries containing the spread and they arent enforcing masks How do you explain that|0 Why would I want to increase my immune system response time|1 the tests are not acurate You have to do 3 tests in 3 days same as mrsa Then you a good rate of saying no more infection|1 Thanks|1 Na thats the Dunkin donuts crowd Unless you mean those people who buy caramel lattes and crap|0 she is a die hard trump supporter and because he is not taking this seriously she doesnt think its a big deal either and got mad at me basically for trying to warn her about it and to tell her to cancel the sercices yesterday ill wait a few days and try to share some more infomation including the CDC recommendation butyeah HOPEFULLY our state might enforce a ban soon anyways like many others are doing so maybe if she wont listen at least that would stop her lol|0 Lol|1 You know what nobody thinks that about people like you You are just internalizing criticism that is is being leveled at the folks who are on every single travel forum crowing how now is the time to travel how they are young and healthy and see nothing wrong with taking advantage of all the deals etc and who have been minimizing and mocking cv for weeks Or for example are still coming to my home state of Hawaii because it is safe and bringing coronavirus with them|1 Country flair yes|1 Sorry to hear about your mom youre absolutely taking the right attitude It does suck to cancel dinner reservations is it possible to show her an article like this Keeping your distance from others helps keep others healthyhttpswwwaarporghealthconditionstreatmentsinfo2020socialdistancinghtml Maybe if she reframes her attitude toward helping vulnerable people as opposed to just worrying about her own health she wont mind putting her life on hold Shed no doubt agree that the life of an elderly or immunosuppressed person is far more important than any movie ITA about the books films courses music etc Why do people think its so boring at homeedit fixed link|0 The hope is that people will see what is happening in NYCCaliforniaSeattle and maybe learn something|1 Thats still eight goddamn years|0 WTF my CPA told me that I couldnt pay into SS or Medicare and that Id need to get a 401kHe and I have a lot to discuss And thanks for tour input I hope things go well for you too|1 Well they copy paste the same exact sentence Its not just parroting|1 As a freelancer Ive never been 100 out of work I have savings But not 4 fucking months with Always figured that if I have zero income for four months there are probably bigger things to worry about Turns out I was right|0 Good thing Im 30|1 Tuesday night I reminded myself to check and see if deaths had hit around 20 by Friday in Seattle Not sure what to go by in the US because we probably have thousands of cases already so what good does an official number do Deaths I would think would be something not as easily fudged but maybe we arent quite at the level where we would see something like that lag being what it is with bad outcomes|0 Can you pm me as well|1 There were 5 cases in nyc yesterday and coronavirus has an estimated incubation time of 214 days 5 on average and it spreads through contact which there is plenty of in nyc I would highly recommend not going and stopping your friend if possible|1 Thanks for sharing hopefully this is helpful to people Also with the US finally taking steps in the past week hopefully we can really slow the spread|1 I will say a prayer for you Stay safe|1 Agreed People dont want to admit it for some reason but China has done a great job of containing it After botching the start of it bigtimeI live here and it seems much safer to be here than my home America right now|1 A friend of mine works with chinese factories too He also said they went from radio silence to back to normal|1 No they included pneumonia as mild|0 Even if they were a good company and did the right thing they probably arent hiring since they didnt get rid of their people and the people didnt quit|1 What people arent getting is that the death rate is low for those under 50 because of modern medicine not because this disease isnt making them ill Old people are simply making modern medical miracles play this game on insanity difficulty which is why they are dying at a higher rate|0 Does he have a drive thru Im putting up a sign tomorrow at my pharmacy that will say to use drive through if you are infected or think you may be In fact Im thinking about just closing the front door period and only offer carhop style service|0 Youre welcome|1 You just said what a lot of us feel Were screwed and our governments local state and federal have all failed us and this virus is just getting started Were on our own at this point Good luck|0 Great link this should be sticked|1 They are good at this Wish my state would be like them|1 That would be a YES and the fastest it has ever been done in history|1 Re affecting the young Chinese doctorsThis is because they had massive exposure to the virus The demography of the cases thus far is quite clear the diseases poses the clearest risk to those with underlying health conditions and the elderly As far as my own immediate safety goes I wont be concerned until otherwise healthy people under the age of 40 start dropping like fliesNB This isnt to say Im not concerned about the virus Im just far more worried about the societal impacts its likely going to have as opposed to my own wellbeing|1 cabinet takes his advice from a crisis management team where only experts are presentWhat admirable bunch of expertsThey saw it coming for weeks and months and did not prepare They are so behind capacity that they stopped with cancer screening to do Covid tests They also do not test more than one family member no matter what symptoms they have They also test only the severe cases They had only 6 icu beds per 100k population and now will double themThese experts refused to close nachos for days although all the Real experts in Asia advised to do so And they are the real experts because they were on the front line with sarsRutte and his people failed|0 Its effectively the same thing in that it provides liquidity to an otherwise illiquid market They had to change the name as even the Fed couldnt bear the shame of admitting the first four rounds of QE were ineffective long term The real problem is that the 300500 basis point cash rate reduction needed to ebb the tide of a recession as stated by the IMF no longer exists unless the fed is willing to go deeply negative This recession would arrive at a time when the backs of the respective central banks of the world are already against the wall|0 3Blue1BrownThis guy always provides a great explanation to any mathematical concept|1 I hope theyre right when they predicted it to go down from 18 March|1 I know Lol at our 4 additional cases in the US today being fucking Diamond Princess people|1 This will be Chinas Chernobyl Except they already failed|0 Such a strange twist that the first election in which all of the candidates are elderly is preceded by a pandemic super deadly to the elderly We really need to rethink electing 80 year olds|1 even when youre rich you still have to stay in linetheres always a bigger fish|1 at least ur not in the us lol|1 People wont care in June|0 Lol|1 Top notch|1 This type of disease could end quickly in first world countries and even places like China if people took precaution to the extreme1 Cancel school work for people that are sickfeel sick or just want to self isolate2 Every individual make a concreate effort not to spread the disease3 Every individual make a concreate effort not to allow the disease into their bodyKinda crazy but I knew Nurse Practioners RN that still claim colds are gotten from cold weatherHumans tend to be selfish and ignorant so|0 Early on I assumed that this country would handle the pandemic fairly wellI was also suckered into that After watching movies like Contagion and Hotzone I figured the upper echelon of government had its shit together I realize now its exactly the same bullshit that made me not reenlist in the Navy The bullshit can only be stacked so high before it covers everyone in shit|0 Yep I agree 100|1 To be honest I feel like the government is too smart to fuck up I feel like theyre doing it deliberately Its all part of the plan Were just pawns in a chess game but we gotta wake up|1 I went to a McDonalds earlier to get a coffeeThere were about 4 coffees sitting on the counter while the lady was trying to call the numbers out Some dude walked up and started picking them all up to find his The lady immediately stopped him threw out all the coffees washed her hands and made fresh cups for all those customers I am not saying this is the norm for every location but I did feel much safer seeing that I kinda felt bad for the dude because he wasnt trying to go all Rudy Gobert on the cups Everyone kinda looked at him awkwardly so I am sure hes learnt his lessonThat being said I dont see myself going back into the public like that for a bit I live in Downtown Toronto and will most likely be leaving here to move into my parents home in the suburbs I have enough food and water and just feel a lot safer being outside of the core I also live in a condo and feel like one case could quarantine us all|1 How is this any different than people watching their parents die of cancer etc Its not People die everyday in shitty hospital beds and it sucks but life goes on|0 This isnt the first time that there was an animal to human exchange of a virus do to wild animal consumption at a wet market The last time they said that they would ban the practice of what markets They waited a little while And unbanned them Thats just one of many choices made by the Chinese government that led to this It was foreseeable|0 We can still go around here in Italy but now in 14 provinces you have to possess a justified reason to leave your house ex work The guy in the video says he self quarantined and he feels he had been abandoned by the authorities|0 Yeah while making old people panic is much healther s You can panic your ass off but leave others out of it I really want to see what people like you will get up to after this is all over New thing to obsess over probably|0 Its the same as a Security Gardand Nursesand doctorsand janitors|1 There is no virus only ZUUL|0 We know quite a bit It includes a number of proteins which have already been categorized and studied There are differences though and thats whats being worked on figuring out how this differs from what we already understandTreatment has been a challenge with other coronaviruses so that is the big target at the moment|1 Yes hello I have virus please help|1 Theres a lot of misinformation in the comments on this subreddit squeezed in between panic doom criticism of the government and occasionally an informative comment Although at least half the threads posted here are blank government is doing a bad job with no new info and then the same headline posted from 10 different websites|0 Its mandatory It must happen soon|1 Im not sure if you read my initial comment in full but I included this comment I take my dog on long walks in the evening and I can assure you that its not uncommon to see middleaged and elderly folks on their evening constitutional sans mask That doesnt mean its normal but I promise you that every night I see at least two to three people not wearing masks out of the say 50100 that I pass by Im not saying people arent wearing masks in the metro or in very crowded areas Im merely claiming that pretty much everyone is fully kitted up with masks and gloves and voluntarily disinfect themselves multiple times a day is a lie because 1 almost nobody wears gloves 2 multiple daily disinfections sounds farcical and 3 seeing people without their masks on in their local neighborhoods at restaurants and so on is relatively rare but still something I see every day|1 Sadly there are CHANCES that herd immunity may not even work Im not saying its doomed to failure and turns out to be destructive and futile but please read thishttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfiigbfswedenhassurrenderedtothecoronavirusfkkrxqbutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x An extrapolation made by a Chinese professor which is trending and all over Chinese internet nowDont trust me but definitely think about it Find your own source do your own math and reach your own conclusion|1 Also NECA and IBEW just put together an emergency council to allow recalls and furloughs due to this bs which are the contractors and the labor union peppery and I actually both work for The thing is with everything changing every single day nobodys on the same page and OSHA is terribly inconsistent Chances are Im going to be laid off for a few weeks while my union has me on quarantine but right now I make more laid off than I do working Its just my work is important If it wasnt for the fact that Im setting up internet at hospitals Id be waving to them from the other side of my bedroom window at home safe|1 Fuzzy isnt agreeing with them just explaining the situation Im in the same boat as a prof Im at far greater risk than my students but I still have to show up None of us want to see anyone get sick and faculty are as pissed off at admins as students are Theyre just not going to tell their students that because its unprofessional to discuss their disdain for administrators in a class|0 Koreas fighting it even harder still spreading fast |0 do they want people to take an entire fucking MONTH off|1 We call people who believe it depressed and unwell as an extension to the grand denial|0 I almost got whooshed as well Poes law and all that|1 lol i laughed thank you|1 Thats true we have the knowledge Even to know that this could happen again of its not managed appropriately|1 Its usually a problem in third world countries mostly in places in africa as the aids epidemic there is still going strong and there isnt the same treatment so its desdly as everNot to say that their suffering is any better because there is a reason why its still happening but I am assuming since you have a smart phone and browse reddit that you live in a first world country where aids is much less of a death sentence and more of an annoyance|0 Why does it kick in on Sunday after everyone has partied for 2 days Yikes lmao|1 This is not urgent but how will graduating seniors be affected Will they get their diplomas Will those whove accepted college acceptances suffer in any way I know college students at UW are having a hard time focusing on their online classes and online finals with so much uncertainty I can only imagine how high school juniors and seniors are feeling|0 Im pretty sure that happened around where I live Ill see if I can get an article|1 Your scared Stop taking it out on a random stranger|0 Webmd lists it as one of the symptoms I also have fever cough sore throat and diarrhea Its 100 one of the symptoms I havent been given a test because COVID19 apparently isnt a concern in my area but I have my doubts Doing fine though and self quarantining|0 Yeah I like the joke against the lack of containment measures but I definitely would not want to see this if I knew the victims|1 Everyone should have some level of emergency preparedness|0 Thanks goodness university of Washington is on it and started making their own tests when the virus first came outFor those of you worried in Seattle they can test 2000 in a day and turn around is 8 hours|1 I just want to say I agree with you ha huge part of the problem is idiots running down the hospitals with a mild fever demanding to get tested If you are sick assume that you have it and isolate yourself|0 From any reports Ive seen it sounds absolutely terrible You essentially drown internally Your lungs can still fill with air but none is exchanged with your blood|0 Thirdparty sellers on WalmartcomhttpsWalmartcom are filling demand while you sit here and virtue signal|1 Why are people so sour about TP It doesnt take that many folks to empty the shelves when theyre all buying one thing Normal times maybe 1 in 30 customers buy TP so there will always be some for everybody When every single person buys it its gone quick Just check in a couple of days Try late at night or early in morning|0 Thank you for doing all of this while you surely feel terrible The information was very helpful to me and my family Best wishes and heal soon|1 Yeah I just read about it now|1 I agree That was a political statement Basically calling people who disagreed with him idiots I would definitely call the department on this Totally unprofessional|0 Deeper economic depression would lead to layoffs an increase in prices of goods and generally would potentiate the chaos of this outbreak Undergoing an economic collapse while simultaneously battling a pandemic would be a terrible experience for all involved I agree that limiting virus spread and ensuring availability of medical care needs to be our primary focus but we must also keep a watchful eye on the economic side of this situation in order to prevent additional hardship|0 I just watched a lecture from a professor of epidemiology and he said that only sick should wear maskThats also the advice from the government of Singapore httpswwwgovsgmediagovncovmasksenglishadvisoryonwearingmaskjpghttpswwwgovsgmediagovncovmasksenglishadvisoryonwearingmaskjpg|0 Seems like a way to keep people from voting over the next few monthsIf it gets too bad they can declare an emergency This is all a big political stunt using US lives as collateral|0 Kleptocrats probably sold it off when no one was looking|0 Then it should be preferential to Only school age kids Babies seem to also be less susceptible H1n1 killed mostly infants kids and the elderly|0 Yeah but should they do so they wouldnt be able to control the narrative They could suddenly find out that the US has more cases than China as the scientific community has already alleged|1 Nhs worker Advice at hospital were i work If you are showing signs of coronavirus leave by the nearest exit go home and ring 111|0 Do you have a position in the NHS that requires scientific knowledgeTo an extent yesAnd like Ive said before Ive spoken to virologist and epidemiologists extensively about this Delaying the curve is not the same as flattening itNo one really knows which strategy will work best We will wait and see|1 This has been real since it started Also the coronavirus is a good excuse for E3 to be cancelled Sony and that Ryan Secrest look alike arent going in the first place so whats the point Also E3 needs to changed their whole format anyway so canceling it might be the best idea|1 Only if youre poor Its pretty excellent if you have money|1 Yet Philadelphia wont cancel Erin express Absolute morons|0 Idk I just went to a convention and Im alright|1 So theyve closed it three times before for Covid19 Thats surprising|1 I now think the reason there were zero confirmed cases for nearly 2 weeks is the reagent problem which was making tests unreliable and they gave up confirming new cases until developing and testing a replacement reagent Really stupid thing for a PCR test like basically wherever is making them no idea who mixed up a solution incorrectly for a large batch of these kits and it was probably randomly but frequently causing the polymerase to not work Its not rocket science and such poor QC is not even possible for most diagnostic products can only imagine the craziness of the slapstick manufacturing of these kits|0 Fucking twat Old people under the bus for herd immunity which isnt even guaranteed|0 The UK should not be trying to create herd immunity that will take care of itself Policy should be directed at slowing the outbreak to a more manageable rateYes obviously And thats what the plan is The author knows this but is deliberately misleading people because he even dismissively linked to further clarificationhttpspoliticshomecomnewsukhealthandcareillnesstreatmentsnews110595matthancockinsistsherdimmunitynotpart in passingSpeaking Radio Fours Today programme on Friday chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said Our aim is to try and reduce the peak broaden the peak not suppress it completely also because the vast majority of people get a mild illness to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission At the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it Those are the key things we need to doBut writing in the Sunday Telegraph the Health Secretary said the Governments plan was based on the expertise of worldleading scientists Mr Hancock added Herd immunity is not a part of it That is a scientific concept not a goal or a strategy Our goal is to protect life from this virus our strategy is to protect the most vulnerable and protect the NHS through contain delay research and mitigate|1 Sorry but when I see 10 different videos of 10 different people all saying the same thing all saying it in Chinesex200BYeah Im gonna go ahead and say that its probably real But knowing you OP you probably dont watch any of these and just dismiss them all as fake news instead of viewing them and making the choice yourself|0 Does anyone know if theres a master list of the current vaccines in development testing and shows information about current status Bonus points if it lists companiesorganizations involved methods used etc|1 LOL Good for you Maybe others will start also|1 I feel like theres a lot more issues besides funding with these tests that we dont know of happening behind the background|1 People with necessary jobs obviously should go straight to their necessary jobs and do themThen they should go straight home and stay there|1 Unfortunately they wont without bodies|0 Rationalising what If the leading UK scientists say herd immunity is the best course I trust they arent idiots or politicians so Ill side with that|1 Well we did have a couple days with 1000 I dont know what happened afterEditThey had a lag in reportinghttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovtestinginushtml|0 Its the same old shit this is what happens when you let psychopaths and imbeciles lead you most of us today didnt have much of a choice in it but most are still easily brainwashed by the bureaucrats They are too stupid to be able to be objective and think critically The bureaucrats are masters at deception and pointing the fingeralong with embezzling but suck at everything else You wont find one upper lever bureaucrat that has ever done a days worth of real work in his life None that could actually do anything useful if needed They are utterly incompetent when it comes to anything meaningful this is why they have to do what they do to keep those useless jobs but somehow make them meaningful Wars are createdwhat else are generals going to do If they are fired then what kinda job will they get Who really needs a war general for any useful work so they have to have wars and threats|0 I want taco bell|1 Its a good article It states pretty clearly that we dont know anything for certainI agree it isnt likely to have an high mortality rate as the spanish flu But we are 4 times as many people on earth today so in actual numbers Im not so sure Also we need to treat this as a very serious threat The most likely saving grace is the fact that there are some pretty promising antivirals that hopefully will be in mass production and available worldwide soonRegarding your 4th point The worst enemy in a potential threat be it war a sinking boat hurricane or pandemic is denial Because it keeps you from acting according to the threat at handIn many ways the world of 1918 was far more prepared for a pandemic than the world of 2020 For starters death and diesese was much more prevalent Theres no telling what will happen|0 So you would actually be okay with all world organisation leaders being billionaires And that people believing that unless you are a billionaire you cannot become a leader because then you cannot be bribed How would that not undermine democracy|1 Both fema and the government accountability office disagree but whatever|0 The government will try to save lives Thats why theyve got a plan than making snap decisions like most other nations Personally doing a snap lockdown results in what we see in hospitals A huge spike because people are forced to congregate|1 this will over in June or later By June everybody will be dead because there is no food nor anything else|0 Lol as someone who followed this thing reddit from beginning its bs Fixed it for you|1 That cant be good news She needs hospitalization She might be the first critical case|0 Someone fucked up and released the wrong personThe answer is not a law suit to prevent anyone from being released into SAJFC people Youre willing to give up everything the moment you get scared|0 I do hope your wife doesnt behave like this for other situations Sounds like a personality flaw that might bite her in the ass in the future|0 And they think no ones gonna notice|0 Heres a very interesting history of the development of the Ebola vaccine Basically it was sitting in a fridge waiting to be rediscovered httpswwwstatnewscom20200107insidestoryscientistsproducedworldfirstebolavaccine|1 Keep this in mindLess than 100 deaths in USA330000000 people in USA0000000303000000303030|0 Im not looking for a value judgement just wondering the degree of systemic risk|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Schools are run by the states The Federal Government has no jurisdiction over schools|0 I dont recommend it I mean they just put a large portion of it in quarantine Im pretty sure Venice is in the quarantine and if someones just visiting all the hotspots I image they would have gone to Venice and Rome|1 I live in Switzerland and am heading back to the UK as my work contract cancelled as theres now no work partially due to corona virus My sister suggested I stay somewhere for 2 weeks to make sure I dont bring it back with me as my dad is old But at this point thanks to inadequate measures by western governments its going to be everywhere so I suggested I most likely wont bring it back but even if I did it is better to catch it early rather than later because most people will catch it eventually and at least it caught early there will still be hospital beds available for the elderly httpswwwnytimescom20200312worldeurope12italycoronavirushealthcarehtml|1 No 1k to people who need it Im not rich but 1k isnt going to help me either Give it to someone who needs it Or if you receive and dont need it consider giving it to someone who might|0 Can you clarify what the other two levels afford and provide discourse about the potential abuse of these powers|0 I think most countries have something like this|1 Yeah Plus in the rush to debunk they may be reinforcing current incorrect informationThe notairborne thing was one that had to fall but due to all the debunking efforts people are dead certain its not even when research indicates it is|0 Then you are a better person than I and good on you for trying to rectify the problem with your children|1 Im adopted so the ages arent typicalI sold my car for a bicycle years ago Im a vegetarian for the environment I became an EMT to help homeless people Im pretty happy with how I do my part tbhI never wished death or violence I did wish that they would stay inside You guys really suck at reading comprehension|1 Schools being closed for a month isnt a big deal for my family because we have a stay at home parent plus one who can work remotely There are a lot of families for whom school closing for a month would be a financial disaster If both work in the medical field or low wage retail jobs So many are already facing trouble paying their bills they probably have to believe it is overhyped|0 I dont hope old people bite it On an individual level it will be horrific Ive lost both my parents traumatically one at 17 and the other at 25 I get it My point is that looking outside of the personal tragedies reveals that there will be good things for our people and planet that come from this a a reduction in our global population reduces the overall consumption of resources b a reduction in pollution from travel restrictions and quarantines means a healthier environment c a reduction in antiquated GOP voters who continue to vote against your healthcare your clean air and water and the safety of your food and medicines means that your personal risk of of harm from GMOs pesticides dirty water etc begins to go down d the push to telecommute will give disabled individuals jobs e the push for online learning now will make it more accessible for families in the future f the demand for local produce and products will give more Americans jobs and help the countrys farmers exponentially g the inadequacy of our healthcare system will become glaringly obvious forcing lawmakers to make changes so more people have access to healthcaref the work work work mentality of America is being exposed and greedy corporations are going to get pressured to foot the bill for sick leave This will force corporations to pass policies that benefit the working poor I hope your dad is fine and your whole family Pease send a thank you from me to him for devoting his career to better the environment|0 Control measures including increased personal protective behavior such as wearing of facemasks social distancing selfisolation when sick likely altered the epidemiological characteristics of the outbreak after 23 January in ChinaGeneral population and government response efforts have increased the use of face masks restricted travel delayed school reopening and isolated suspected persons all of which could additionally slow the spread of SARSCoV2Andrea Crisanti full professor of Microbiology at the University of Padua is quotedhttpswwwcorriereitcronache20marzo13coronaviruspianomarshallvenetomoltiplichiamotamponi938c48a8655211ea86da7c7313c791feshtml in an Italian newspaper as saying thatIt has been shown through an epidemiological enquiry that most infected people in V Padua northern Italy are asymptomaticOver 50 of those infected did not suffer from any illness They were healthy carriers and formidable channels of infectionIn light of the above is there any scientific reason underlying the following recommendationsJAMAhttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762694Face masks should be used only by individuals who have symptoms of respiratory infection such as coughing sneezing or in some cases feverFace masks should not be worn by healthy individuals to protect themselves from acquiring respiratory infection because there is no evidence to suggest that face masks worn by healthy individuals are effective in preventing people from becoming illCDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcprespiratorusefaqhtmlrespiratorsCDC does not recommend the routine use of respirators outside of workplace settings in the communityWHOhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasksIf you are healthy you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019nCoV infection|1 and if they close schools they will just pile their kids into crowded living rooms of unlicensed day cares anyway|1 What the fuck why|0 How bad is the fibrosis|0 Those reports did not really control for a number of other possible explanations The test was wrong false negative The test was not sensitive enough they still had it but it just did not show up May have just been complications after the fact some of the people died from lung related complications after feeling better|0 The private sector will rise to the rescue Already multiple clinics have 4 hour tests and drive through testing The big commercial labs are coming onboard Quest Diagnostics and Lab Corp these are the people who do the majority of routine medical testing in the US and the have locations everywhere|1 As messed up as it looks Really wish western world will follow|1 Certainly felt that way|1 Gargle with warm salt water See if that helps to loosen up some phlegm too NotADoctor SpeakingFromExperience SufferFromSeasonalAllergies|1 Nintendo participates just by attending buying a huge floor space and going all out in decorating Its Sony who abandoned them the last few years by either having a very small presence or not coming at all|0 And here I got 51 I think they meant to write 15 325mg paracetamol 5mg hydrocodone pills for a wisdom tooth extraction This was maybe 10 years ago though Guess theyre really cutting back on the pain meds I feel like the otc meds do fine for most common pain|0 Yep Theres a drive thru margarita place in Houston I always drive by I should try it one of these times|1 I guess some My neighbours and I are all friends and we can rely on each other all the time I always clear their snow in the winter They always let us use their pool in the summer|1 He also said that Trump is in better health than he is New surgeon general recommendation 3 buckets of KFC a day Quarter Pounders when you want a snack and to round it out a gallon of Diet Coke The regular is just too unhealthy|0 I kept a hair appointment despite not caring since nobody would see me The owner of the salon has been doing my hair for years now and I know she will suffer and I wanted to give her my business before it got really badEdit this was not very recent|0 You should avoid raising fear about something that is pure speculation|0 Thats what they always do sabotage it from the inside out and then point at it and go See it doesnt work Exactly what happened to the ACA|0 Um yes 100 quarantine|1 That actually makes a lot of sense too Smoking does all kinds of fucked up shit to your body|0 Interferon as a treatment modality has been around for viral diseases in the past but generally falls by the wayside once anything else becomes available due to the side effects Interferon is what youre body makes that induced the feeling like crap and achy all over feeling of the flu|0 I hope that it stays until the bac de franais|1 I thought they said at least 1 if they are seeing community spread Not worst case but at least|1 You know what else will have terrible consequences for everyone|0 Apparently its planned in the upcoming legislation As for intellectual property Id like to think you make the stuff first and then sort that out later|1 Id love for them to sing bella ciao|1 I guess its to stop any confusion since coronavirus can also mean many other corona viruses SarsCoV2 is specific to the current coronavirus|0 Youll probably like the updated spreadsheethttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsd1w7KqWPsNcpLcCKOkvBNG8a2nwCN5QO3yDyCdcvW38ccedituspsharing with country to country breakdown Ill post a thread with some details in another hour or so|0 The president is very pro Chinese to the point of being weird The CCP demanded very strongly that borders remain open and Xi Jinping even said something along the lines of being a real friend is helping in times of distress I dont get how sharing an infectious disease is supposed to be of help but our government bought in to that crap and thats why we are where we are at now As for politics I just dont like Jimmy Carter because he acted as a destabilizing force in this region He was strict towards allies and strangely lenient towards enemies like the NK which made nuclear armament being put on the table as a back up plan in case the US forces left I have the impression that the soft America approach usually taken by liberal presidents tend to create destablilization further down the road because everyone knows that US is the strongest power If US takes an assertive approach bad players can shit talk all they want but nothing happens If US takes a soft tone then it seems peaceful on the surface but everyone else will move to get a bigger share which leads to an arms racetension down the line|0 I go to a big state uni that is currently on spring break They cancelled all in person classes and have made it online A lot of people who live in offcampus housing will be going back anyway and pretty much party the whole time while doing online classes|1 So the stronger the immune system the worse off you are|1 Ive been watching medcram which is a doctor summarizing articles from the Lancet or JAMA or other reputable websites and also giving his opinion of what he sees in the ER He says its not uncommon for people to come in with a serious viral infection start to recover and immediately turn for the worst due to a bacterial infection The virus weakens the body or specific cells in the esophagusbronchials and then something like MRSA or opportunistic bacteria get in easily|0 Ideally yes A properly designed quarantine should prevent escapes If youre quarantining a few dozen people Im pretty confident that it could be carefully monitored Wuhan has a population of 11 million people The logistics of trying to enforce a quarantine on 11 million people is mindboggling Im surprised China was able to just feed that many people in quarantine In the US in times without pandemic we cant even supply leadfree water to the people in Flint MichiganThink about the US preparedness People are returning from hotspots like Italy and Spain and no one is taking temperatures They literally walk through the airport without even being asked where they have traveled Contrast what the US is doing to what Taiwan is doing httpswwwvoanewscomsciencehealthcoronavirusoutbreakwhytaiwanhasjust42coronaviruscaseswhileneighborsreport Taiwan is 100 mi off the coast of China and has fewer confirmed cases than the US Thats not luckIs the US capable of quarantining millions in a major metropolitan city The only chance the US has of keeping confirmed cases low is to not perform any tests And it appears our administration is working hard to that end|1 If you live in the US as I do due to severe incompetence throughout the entire US government the best thing you can do now is selfquarantine as much as possible Ive stocked up on 30 days of food and supplies and am only going to my workplace to work|0 Yup a 100 infection rate over a year or two would probably lead to a lower death rate than 50 infections over two or three months|0 No one under 30 has cable anymore Internet or cell phone is a necessity in todays society Go back to 1990 friend|1 Yeah thats great I was getting pretty upset about it|1 Panned exposure to information Carefully crafted rhetoric to inform us in waves in order to curb panic|0 man you really dont theres a difference between thinking critically and being paranoid Give the credit where credit is due|1 Go for your run The goal is to avoid people Going outside is fine as long as you avoid people|0 As a brit I really wish the UK was included in this for our sake more than theirs Containment and testing measures domestically in the US are awful by the sounds of it and I seem to see a horror story from actual medical professionals or their peers in every thread about how many hoops people have to jump through just to get tested The test rate per capita is so low I dread to think how many Americans are going about their lives blissfully unaware theyre infecting moreSaying all that Im hardly trying to score points No western country has responded in anything like an acceptable manner|0 US here Should people be going to work Going to the grocery store If tests arent getting out how do we know how many people are infected My jobs involves coming into contact with a lot of people and I dont make a lot of money Im wondering if its worth it to possibly come in contact with it and then pass it onto my already sick auto immune disease mother Shes on a immunosuppressant|0 Sweet Caroline or Friends in Low Places thank you very much|1 Most Americans do not have high income or medical care The Chinese dont have as much income or rights of course but America is still a pretty low standard|1 I really like the snack packs that serve deli meats and cheeses Sometimes with olives or hummus|1 Economic crisis the likes of which a generation has never seenDouble nurses wagesOkay|0 Thats basically a nothing dose The supplements I take are 1000IU per pill and I took them daily for months as STILL wound up with a vitamin D deficiency on my blood test So my doctor prescribed me pills One per week 50000IU each|1 Surgical masks dont However respirators do as well as the mostly overlooked dental masksAnd actually Id probably bet on a standard surgical mask giving you around a 50 improvement in protection compared to no mask based on how most people in the average scenario are coughing out some pretty big droplets|1 Unfortunately this is also affecting smaller businesses also We had someone claiming to be working with disease control in Houston spread a rumor that the owner of aN Asian grocery store went to China for vacation and come back after contracting coronavirusEven though the Houston Health Department tried to address the rumor it had already spread like crazy and a lot of people still believe that despite no confirmed cause yet Business in Chinatown has been unfortunately hurt because of this stupid rumor so far I can currently walk into restaurants and boba shops that would normally be packed on a weekend and find only a couple of people inside Just a shame for the families that own these businesses|0 Thank you for acknowledging that I was talking about the situation in the US|1 Its horrifying but if theyre not contained they will continue to spread the infection Not everyone will follow the rules and stay in their house Even rational people can go nuts in these situations you cant have them running all over spreading it I cant think of a better way to isolate these patients Maybe Reddit can Theres only so many medical staff and the sickest people need them if youre walking and talking and stable you dont need a nurse up your ass the patient on a ventilator and blood pressure support does For example they have patients on ECMO In my US hospital each patient on ECMO has an RN that takes care of only that patient These treatments are very staff intensive|0 While the proper semantics are clear the purpose of a news release is to speak to the uninformed populace Its somewhat arrogant to dismiss a conversation out of hand because they use the disease term in place of the flu term I work at a hospital in public health and in the labs here for many they just say covid19 or coronavirus Because we understand what we are all talking about and arguing about semantics just makes meetings take longer and is more typically a symptom of a cooperative antipattern than indicative of attention to detail|0 To be fair Trudeau is easy to push around|1 The shit to hit the fan apparently|0 No they moved to the Pacific region last year|0 You became the very thing you swore to destroy|0 Listen to todays episode of The NY Times daily podcast and hear about Chinas reaction It is nothing that the US would ever come close to replicating so I wouldnt take too much comfort in them getting it under controlapples and oranges|1 Weird They have the highest concentration of millionaires out of any country Weird|0 Is the Rosetta thing actually allowing people to work on Covid FH just keeps sending me to cancer things which are also important of course|0 Good point At first that answer may seem correct But its kind of mind buggling Take China for example If you dont wear mask in Hubei police arrest you Not just healthcare workers ALL PEOPLE MUST WEAR MASK But its not just China In any country that you look at everyone wears mask Italy South Korea IRAN with huge sanctions more people have masks than in USA Also If what you say is the case thn why dont say We dont have masks right now we will produce by next week and give you all I mean Its just a simple Mask Its not Rocket science Why are they promoting MASKS DONT WORK and go as far as telling people DONT WEAR THEM And Given that we are the richest country in the world how exactly we ended up sooooooo pooor that we have to tell millions of people DONT WEAR MASK MASKS DONT WORK How exactly were poorer than rest of the world now|1 Sounds like you have a great family Get well soon|1 From my point of view Im not worried if it doesnt affect my life or the life of anyone I know Or stop my Amazon orders from shipping That how the majority of people feel about anything|1 Im mostly just surprised that theres no head covering The guy in the video is bald but hair can easily be contaminated by droplets cant be washed during the work day and people run their hands through their hair and then touch their face A surgical cap wouldnt add a significant amount of time or difficulty and would cut down on a significant transmission risk|0 Apparently the guy who made them reckons they shouldnt be reused But well|1 This is just not true Only severe cases need medical intervention to recover Otherwise they wouldnt suggest if you have mild symptoms you stay at home Tom Hanks and his wife released today werent put on anything Stop spreading misinformationWhen it gets bad it gets BAD for everyone regardless of age But saying the only reason young people have beat it is because they had medical intervention isnt true|0 I mean there have been some deadly flu strains in the past This will probably end up being a bit below the 1918 flu in terms of case fatality rate People just dont have any real clue how bad pandemics in the past have been they tend to think everything will be similar to things theyve already experienced Honestly Im really glad this doesnt seem to be as deadly as SARS|0 Wow That comparison is a bit of a stretch What do you actually think the worst case scenario could be China is gonna start killing foreigners|0 Almost Get your priorities straight|1 I wonder what that smug asshole is thinking right now|1 The one assumption that I rarely see discussed is that people are creatures of habit We generally interact with the same people at the same places I saw a simulation the other day that had balls bouncing around touching each other to show transmission It was a neat little graphic but my first thought was But people dont bounce around the entire population randomly like this Were not air moleculesWe go home we go to work we repeat that most of the week Sometimes we go out to shop usually at the few places we always go Especially in a time of social distancing were going to turn even more inward towards our already established social networks|1 Changes to every day life are coming whether we like it or not|1 This week was very hotIts weird|0 There is a post a few posts under yours that claim that employees of NCL are forced to lie about coronavirus|0 Just last week middle to end of the week it is less serious than the fluLost a lot of respects for a number of people that week|1 Well thats one way to solve it Curious if theyll do this with toilet paper too|1 Two PUI here in ar and i just got back from chicago and they told me to go tomorrow to get tested for viral pneumonia but said people were still at a low risk It infuriates me too we need to be proactive|0 Consistent cough can irritate your airways if you dont have a fever youre probably fine Stay home drink teawater and try to relax|1 I was reading about how organized crime is moving in with schemes to use the corona concerns to scam people out of their money Its not even gouging its just straight up scams like snake oil and the like Cant let a crisis go to waste I suppose gotta predate and destroy peoples lives for some blood money|0 To be fair China is used to dealing with incredibly large numbers of people Even at basic things like passing immigration at the airport it can take hours at a major US airport but 30 minutes or less in China With 14 billion people they have learned how to be efficient This also isnt their first rodeo with a infectious disease|1 I wont thank the place that is the cause of this|0 Its gotta just be ignorance and normalcy bias I specifically told one of my friends that I have to selfquarantine because I have mild symptoms still think its just a cold but you never know He agreed that hes getting freaked out by the virus and would start limiting his social contact That was 5 days ago He has invited me to 3 social gatherings and tried to swing by already Old habits die hard I guess|0 I really dont see how CV can be stopped Geni is out of the bottle horse left the barn But it really is a race between CV and vaccine|0 Okay you are right in the coming weeks they will This is because as of now the virus hasnt really spread If you want to take extra caution like people I know you can isolate now Please read thishttpsassetspublishingservicegovukgovernmentuploadssystemuploadsattachmentdatafile869827CoronavirusactionplanaguidetowhatyoucanexpectacrosstheUKpdf and stop spreading misinformation about the UK Government We have the best team and the best plan You are in good hands|1 I remember this vividly It got me out of a depressive time Everthing was bloomy and nice|1 A cringe went down my spine reading thatNo matter how much you want it to be this is not a doomsday scenario The vulnerable population is 60 and sick I worry for my parents I worry for my grandmother Im not worried about myself my friends my siblings or people younger than 50ish in generalThe younger people who have succummed to this illness are statistical outliers The impact on young people will no matter what be miniscule So theres no reason to go all prepperTake precautions so that you dont get sick and infect others Wear a mask not to avoid getting infected but to avoid infecting others Wash your handsThe general population wont be fucked in any shape or form And the fact that you have 12 upvotes right now suggests to me that this userbase in general agrees with you which is not a good sign|0 Man that would be annoying if your name was obia People telling you to frig off all the time|0 Wow its amazing how unfunny Seth is without the audience laughter|1 Please do not postcomment links to pages containing deliberate misinformation rCOVID19 has scientifically accurate informationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 When does Maslow pyramid kick in Meaning that as standards of living improve people want to have a say in how things are run and administeredMore free time equals more time to think about how would you want things to changeIs there a way Singaporeans can express their views with regards to changes they want to see implemented|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I dont think a few thousand deaths is really that hard to handle It is when its unexpected like this|1 Good luck Wish you a safe journey back if you can make it|1 Where in the world have respirators been used aloneThat makes no sense Respirators are used by experience medical professionals and they are key to life savingI find it hard to believe that the article you linked was actually saying what you think it said Who studied the use of respirators by amateurs|0 In the first paragraph of this article they misspelled the word organization organisation Sorry you just lost all credibility|0 I just got my results back they were negative Some crazy other virus going around I guess|0 Lets see how long Singapore can keep it under control before saying the UK is wrong Singapore is a city state with a compliant population the UK is a whole country with 6570 million people and a different culture arguably not a better one but thats my point Cases in Singapore are still going UP They may have simply delayed the onslaught not avoided it|0 We should be testing thousands of people daily and should be happy when people trust the medical system enough to voluntarily show up to be tested Public trust in our institutions is challenging to maintain these reports only reduce that trust|1 Im doing this planning at my university We are not readyFaculty do not want to make this change Despite years of trying to train them to do this they have resisted We have a few courses that we just dont know how to adapt specific lab courses performance classes etc They have no choice now theyll do it but poorly Exams will be a bit challenging particularly problem based exams in the sciencesengineering Online testing tools arent terrible but they are limited|0 Silent victims of this administrations failures|0 If theres a second wave these hospitals can be brought back in no time|0 Im from Italy On average when you read that just today over 160 people died because of the virus source httpswwwopenonline20200310coronavirusbollettinoprotezionecivileitalia10marzo you really lose any desire of still messing around and you just damn stay at homeThe company I work for enabled smart working today and lets just say it would never have happened in normal circumstances Many of my colleagues were really worried to still come at work especially those who live with elder relatives and genuinely rejoiced for this new possibilityFor a somewhat dysfunctional country like ours where rules are often bent or circumvented and a high level of sociality is the norm this selfimposed national quarantine feels really surreal The fact that many people are actually obeying the government the threat of hefty fines and possibly jail helps a lot of course and that many oldstyle companies are finally taking steps forward in smart solutions schools and universities too is somehow surprisingReading that other European nations that we believe to be more organized and dutiful than ours like Germany and France are NOT taking the same measures is even more surprising in a saddening way Like even Italy could do that why cant youNo offense to anyone Best of luck to everybody|1 American leadership doesnt represent all of America the majority of us didnt vote for the buffoon Also most Americans think that the idiot that bought up 17700 bottles to sell it for profit is a buffoon as well Congress regularly has a very very low approval rating amongst AmericansPretty assholish of you to generalize 350 million people based on the actions of a buffoon leader though Every country has their share of idiots|1 Dissolve the CDC and put the officials in prison|0 In Canada right now they arent taking adequate response Luckily winter is here now Im going to get some extra canteens of fuel enough for 1 full tank Buy some supplies 200 rmadlads style prepping have some basicsHaving worked in operations supply chain actually shipping products Looking at data from China elsewhere reading here extensively had to get away because its a bit overwhelming people think its just a flu Even the name of the subreddit downplays the concerns given the preliminary results outside of ChinaIve told my friends city centers mass populace going to have food fuel shortages even if people get sick drop dead there arent people just trained to replace them immediately Things take time running projections models on how things play out its a bit daunting but it doesnt fair well some smart folks have kits ready to go Stay safe be prepped let the chips fall where they may|1 Hes known as the Tropical Trump and most people see him as pretty right wing from everything Ive seen|1 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 UPS driver heredo you know how many people touch your box the 24 hours before it reaches your doorstep This isnt good|0 Goddamn fucking Chinese hoarded everything|0 Sorry I got the 80 figure wrong its 40 for acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDS But same will apply to CoronaI updated my comment Thanks for pointing outHeres the referencehttpswwwnejmorgdoi101056NEJM200005043421801urlverZ39882003rfridori3Arid3Acrossreforgrfrdatcrpub3Dwwwncbinlmnihgov|0 Another way to look at it is that college tuition rose in tandem with government education loans Colleges charged more because government loaned more And that part of the economy is a house of cards being propped up by foreign students|0 That last sentence is relevant far too often|1 From the original chinese paperhttpswwwthepapercnnewsDetailforward6173183|1 Lets not forget that communism is also a virus plaguing the world unfortunately no vaccine exists|0 HA Jokes on them I have none of those|1 Lets see what happens in the next 34 weeks and then well reassess|1 Yeah Purell isnt the one selling at high prices though|1 Yup literal propaganda|0 I think people are looking at you as overpreparing Im currently living in Shenzhen and have been on house quarantine for the last 16 days yet life other than that has been pretty normal Essential jobs are still running so I get whatever I need delivered Fresh veges fruit meat whatever I want as normal same price too I am allowed to go out once a day one person per household so I could go to the store if I so chose but I dont for safety The supply of masks online is enough that you can get them Packages are still delivered The world production of masks has been significantly ramped up so getting them in the future in the event that the situation gets worse shouldnt be a problem So basically if youre living in the US now is not the time to start stocking up Sure being prepared is better than being sorry but considering the number of cases in the US you dont need to be that prepared Are you currently wearing a mask when you go to work Or are you just buying and holding onto them If you dont feel like wearing a mask to work is necessary and youre still going out and hanging out with friends then the precautions youre taking arent matching up with your level of concern Relax Its good to pay attention and not underestimate the threat but if youre paranoid enough that your coworkers are laughing at you or thinking youre fear mongering thats not doing anyone any good Im currently living a relatively normal life in China You should be fine in the US|1 I was killed by Net neutralityI died when the tax cuts were passedThey criticized when they put a travel band a screen in place for people traveling back from China in January because it was allegedly a xenophobic response That move is looking pretty smart but of course we wont be hearing any talking heads revise their previous positions|0 Going into the office or getting out of the train station in the morning in Philly is a mass attended event If there have been no cases in PA at all officially at least I genuinely believe you are fine You do you though I wasnt trying to offend you I just think people need to keep perspective|1 45ish were from the cruise ship so 15 outside of that situation To everybody criticizing its not playing with the numbers its just that nobody reads the fucking articles in full|0 That reminds me I saw a documentary about vaccine testing a few years ago It was terrifying and a lot suffered cytokine storms it was horrible I remember SARS but it was mostly in Asia and I dont remember much here in the uk|0 Is money so important that we try our very best to hold an already crumbling economy Why not instate a two week quarantine until things could be brought under control This would clearly give us a headroom to work with rather than being blindsided left and right|1 Thank you for bringing this to our attention We have confirmed conflicting reports on this article and have locked the post updated the flair and have stickied links to the opposing reports with a disclaimer|0 If you are self admittedly clueless stop spreading bullshit no You are contributing nothing but useless noise|0 And potentially live out the remainder of your life with a reduced lung capacity due to scared lung tissue resulting in difficulty breathing after exertion That will shave a few years of your life|0 I was absolutely amazed at how Trump just out there and do not add the living presence of a human being giving him coronavirus because he doesnt remember taking the picture with him|1 This is great thanks I wish the general public was a little more informed on where some of these people have been in their day to day like grocery stores etc One of the Toronto people had their commute posted at least Maybe that means they havent been anywhere of concern so far but going forward I hope theres some more info included|1 The iceberg begins to take shape We found that at least 59 of infected cases were unascertained in Wuhan potentially including asymptomatic and mildsymptomatic cases |0 Most cloud solutions does right now O365 is also growing so I dont think we can use a few anecdotal cases of switching from either or yet to tell which way the trend is going|1 Went to the grocery store the other day with my husband with the plan to use Purell halfway through just in case Went to squirt some in his hand and he looked at me crazy and looked around to see if people were looking and then refused to do it Im still lecturing him about being less concerned with how people see you and more concerned about the virus|0 Anything good for the economy is a direct lethal threat to human beings right now The economy is secondary to human survival|0 No need to do any of those things if you just hand out cash and let people prioritize what they need toI have a high rent to pay but cant work thanks to this situation Other people have a paid off house but need to feed their kidsJust give everyone 1000mo for as long as ANY quarantine measures are being advised doneEDIT To anyone saying 1k isnt enough I agree It should be 1kmo in perpetuity and somewhere between 24k during this situationBut we need to take what we can get And no adjusting for cost of living makes no sense If it did Im driving to San Francisco tomorrow and getting a Cali license and enjoying 5kmo|0 Yup Im low income but my husband makes just enough before taxes that I am not eligible for gst rebate We have no children Im on disability We get no aid If my husband has to stop working and he is forced on EI we will lose more than 50 of his income But no aid for us Its called the middle class where you pay your taxes sit down and shut up|0 If he can delay it until after the election I dont he gives a fuck if millions are dead|0 The problem isnt under reportingThey are probably reporting the positive number of tests very accuratelyYoure comparing positive confirmed tests to an estimated of infected which Im guessing is a multiplier of the confirmed cases Reasonably set somewhere between 5 and 10There was another method recently by extrapolating from the number of infected Japanese returning from quarantine that fell directly in line with the projected of infectedIts only a problem if people conflate the two numbers|0 Running late Makes me worry its bad news|0 Went to Lowes really early this morning for some gardening supplies before completely going on lockdown and it was crawling with olds None of them were wiping down the carts or distancing themselves from others Total shit show Glad I was only going to the garden area and was able to keep my distance|0 this is the only way China could send 40000 doctors to Wuhan which prevented this from exploding into a never seen massacre Europe cant just find this amount of personnel Yes the virus originated in China but we will still have a big debt with them once this is over|0 Not good the truth might be revealed|0 I started rpandemicpreps a month ago to help people get prepared and was called a fear monger idiot you name it at the time|0 Several tests to ensure a positive multiple tests at least 23 to meet the standards for discharge too|1 Hi NsikanEveryone in my small semirural town says that COVID19 is just a bad flu and all the mass hysteria is due to the media They think that the media is blowing this whole thing out of proportion for profit Please help me explain to them why that is so not true|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thank you for this Ive been working at the same grocery store for nearly 3 years at a minimum wage income My coworkers and I are working our asses off and management hasnt once told us a simple thank you I understand that they are busy too but we are underpaid and overworked with rude customers coming in and cleaning our shelves off unnecessarily Im worried about getting sick because Im working paycheck to paycheck as are my coworkers and we cant afford to not work at the moment|0 Oh I know Im so sorry Im doing what I can in my community|0 Not great not terrible|0 NHS has an average 173 minute wait time and is a terrible example of a national health care system Fuck me Ive never waited 5 minutes at a hospital even for nonemergency visitsIts not just an inconvenience innocent people die because of an hourslong wait on medical attention If theres a 2019nCoV epidemic over there that 3hour wait time will become days The current infrastructure cannot even handle its daily typical load|0 Soooseekers of rare medicines may have unleased a deadly plague for which there is no cure Boys make room we have a brand new case of irony|0 Japan Although their handling of cruise ship was lame|0 Totally forgot to say thank you for writing this gave a good giggle|1 Have them do the flu and strep test too|0 Im not advocating mass panic buying but Id advise adding some long life food like dried noodles pasta and some canned goods to your next shop just in case|1 Thank you|1 Is the sarcasm because that legislation isnt relevant in a country with a publicly funded health care system which automatically covers all residents Like Brexit is a stupid idea and I dont particularly trust the Tories But the NHS is fucking incredible and much more extensive than most not all health care models in the EU especially its commitments to being free at the point of use|1 It requires a certain number of deaths spread among a certain number of countries The only time it has paid out thus far is to Congo for an Ebola outbreak|1 Dude is my favourite Im not a religious man but Ill cross every appendage in the hope him and his family come out from this ok|1 And my local LEO officer friend wants federal forces on every corner to take care of the homeless problemyall undesirables going to get sent to labor camps for not having a home Work will set you free|1 lol|1 It can bePeople need tools and materials to fix things People cant just be in quarantine and leave the structure abandonedBut i guess those stores could now be open in reduce time and control the entries of customers just to make sure that there is no way to be infected by proximityIf you have 10 clients at the time and registers with a physical separation you are 100 safeThere is always a way to keep minimum services|0 He offered communion so he touched the piece of bread and fed it to 500 people No need to touch your face|0 I did too All the same plus persistent sore throat Exhausted and light headed from not being able to get a breath|0 If she gets through and something God forbid happens you will have realized having someone angry at you saying no is worth millions of times more than aquiescing to someone elses illinformed panicked demand|0 Our brave doctors and nurses are the best in the world they fought on their feet for days helping the sick and suffering during last years COVID19 nightmare but they were up against it from the beginning as the structure is not fit for purpose thats why my friends Healthcare USA with be taking over the running of AB Cand Medical Murica will be taking over the running of XY ZBojo The Clown Autumn 2021|1 If youre talking about the SL strain paper i seem to remember that it was critiqued by experts|0 Read thathttpstwittercomImamofpeacestatus1161125497620713472 and go hide under a rock Seriously if you cant do a basic Google research before writing bollocks you should maybe just quit internet for a while|0 Been saying it for a while TP and Tampons are the new currency I have a bidet attachment and still loaded on TP|1 A 40paper meta review published in Elsevier in 2020 shows chloroquine is effective against many virus in vitro ie in a petri dish but has shown no benefit in animal or human trialsId consider this slightly more credible than a selfpublished Google Doc with a handful of sourceshttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0166354220301145httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0166354220301145|1 Completely Disregarded Coronavirus|0 This should include any church which says prayer will help It should be closed down|1 Solid burn|1 I refuse to die from this dumbass disease but my government thinks differently|0 During the Rose Garden national emergency declaration Debbie Birx mentioned the South Korean testing numbers She said something about positivity numbers I couldnt understand it though Was she saying their tests werent very accurate or that the tests America was trying to devise was even more accurate Anyone know|1 I feel bad for them too I did all I could do to convince people to prepare though they just werent receptive to the advice No one can legitimately say I didnt try|0 I think we have known this for awhile My guess is that it has already hit people a lot more than they realize If it is true that things started back in OctNov then people were coming and going out of ChinaWuhan and spreading it around I got hit with one of the worst flus Ive ever had late Nov early Dec didnt come close to dying and never tested for flu but 45 days of knocked out on the couch with high fever cough labored breathing I think it was possible this but who knows Stay safe|1 Case 82 is a scary case in multiple waysThe patient started making health care contacts in Feb 10 and has lived in the community since before being admitted to the hospital in a general wardThis is scary both because it shows that surveillance has not been great at spotting cases and because theres a lot of risk of a new large case cluster from 82s contacts with health care personnel and other patientsCase 80 is nearly as scary|0 We already have a shortage of goods Most people needing ventilators to survive this virus will unfortunately have a very high chance of passing The Chinese government rhetoric is starting to heat up and the US gov is hitting back I fully expect a shortage of consumer goods to last a year or two Factory production will be coming back to the US Mexico and CanadaGood things for the US and the World will come from this Chinas government I can not say the same for|0 I would love to avoid it if only this administration wouldnt try to kill us by hiding things I think its disingenuous to yank politics out of this discussion|1 There are just too many reports that emulate the same dire circumstances of shortages and care|0 My point is more that the statement is logically incorrect as the two contradict each other So in that case theres no risk involved youve simply made a logical error Again my own feeling based of course off of the limited data that are currently available is that the world is not ending However without more data it is simply not possible to state with confidence that that is the case and it is incorrect to make that statement from a logical standpoint|0 I am more worried about my parents If its dangerous for me its even worse for them|0 Trumps an idiot saying its been contained it clearly isnt and its spreading Im just saying its just a flu youll live So will your grandparents even if they get it and if they die anyway any other flu wouldve killed them too but you didnt worry about that until now|0 Definitely A very wonderful culture Any who say otherwise are only jealous|1 Please share the covidcough video|1 These claims you just made are debunked by the sources cited by Wikipedia like the RAI documentary and The Guardian articlePlease use sources|1 This is great but how do we deal with the people who are determined to prove its a hoax by being as social as possible while coughing and sneezing all over and refusing to employ basic hygiene|0 I dont think everyone lives in a city in fact myself lives in the suburbs and all of these options are available to me as they are in a lot of areas in each city Im in the US Of course I understand some people live in rural areas where these type of service isnt available or it may be too expansive I speaking more generally in terms of if you want to stay home there are options available to you obviously it doesnt apply for everyone no scenario does|0 It was for the grand opening of that 711 great timing|1 Their upper bound is too low 2M|0 Perfectly normal guys Just the fluThey always dress as storm troopers this time of the year and clean the streets|1 This is one of the most egregious displays of ignorance I have ever seen Not only have Trump and Pence recently been in contact with people who have tested positive but now they are in direct contact with nearly a dozen American CEOs who run some of the worlds largest healthcare businesses I was baffled watching them shake hands touch the microphone and be generally careless with their own hygiene|0 I swear you are the most ignorant person on this sub Many experts are saying there will be quarantines and severe outbreaks in the UShttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvZYyvC48a3aAhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvZYyvC48a3aAhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvVrWrTkLXLLshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvVrWrTkLXLLsMost are saying this ether is or will become a pandemichttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv0sq2RSqEJNEt24shttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv0sq2RSqEJNEt24sThe United States Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said 30 of the US could become infectedhttpsyoutubenQoaLawUHyMt175httpsyoutubenQoaLawUHyMt175Btw Marc never backtracked he made a clarification if you actually read his statementhttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1228373884027592704htmlhttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1228373884027592704html|0 I wonder if Trump will sign anything and send to his favorite staterun media commentators to commemorate history being made|1 God bless you Italy|1 I had a girlfriend drunk pee in the same restroom as me once She rolled out probably 10 pieces just to dry off If your wife goes through 78 a week Im guessing this practice isnt uncommon|0 And yet doctors are currently not wearing extreme gear like in china The point is though the masks are better saved for our doctors or true emergency Anyone wearing them right now is just wasting resources and acting in an irresponsible and selfish manner|0 This Im a big fan of museums Living in Shenzhen which has many good museums of its own and being connected with HSR to Guangzhou and Hong Kong allows me to have access to great exhibitions I dont think that would ever change Online exhibition is a thing but it really dont replace seeing things in person in a specifically designed atmosphere and surrounded by other art lovers|1 Congratulations and Best Wishes x|1 lol ok bro|1 This is why this is going to decimate the US Lots of people dont get paid sick leave and cant afford to take unpaid leave and their health insurance has such high deductibles that an inpatient hospital stay would put them in a hole they cant climb out ofId venture that most Americans dont have enough savings to pay a 35K deductible|1 Droplets are still present in the breath though Colds and flu can be transmitted via breathinghttpswwwmedicalnewstodaycomarticles320690|0 Im expecting China to ban flights coming from other infected countries for about a week now it makes sense if they want the numbers of infected to keep dropping|0 Its just incompetence|0 Ron Swanson laughing noise|1 The press conference he gave in Washington tonight was complete nonsense and backpatting|0 Read the papers And you are wrong in your assumptions A virus doesnt want to kill its host It wants to replicate Therefore all it does it tell your body to make more virus and not stuff the body needs This doesnt have to kill you People of course recover That doesnt mean they are immune Just like we are not immune to the common cold Aka a cornovirus Which the common cold is Hence the studies showing this virulent version of a common cold shows there is no evidence of immunity so the subsequent infections may be lighter Or they may be worse Theres just not enough data yet|1 Yeah and|1 My husband is Nigerian and when I asked him if he was worried about the virus he said Im Nigerian My immune system can take it We just get malaria and move on Nice to see that appears to be a national response and that my husband hasnt just lost it|1 Covid is spread through aerosolized droplets of saliva for instance during a cough or when breathing per the CDC which lists these as respiratory droplets The virus can then live on a surface for several days afterword like the common coldHow do you think it gets airborne or onto a surface Saliva which is a body fluid encorporating warm air from the lungs|1 hopefully but schools closed for a while here so|1 I know this may not seem like a lot but its a step in the right direction and Im really glad that they made this decision along with donating to the relief efforts|1 Yeah I was agreeing with you|1 There is no scientific studies that support any of that Essential oils are just magical nonsense and have nothing to do with natural immunological functions What pathway would they take Etc However I dont think any of that will hurt anyone as long as you also use modern medicine|0 Pretty sure Trump understands good will What he doesnt understand is that other people have their own conscious experience and therefore only cares about himself|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Just to note Yesterday after the US finished announcing cases there were only 0 or 1 person listed as serious or critical Then today comes and 15 people died I used httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus to get the info|0 Yeah I dont think the anecdote about your daughter is relevant whatsoever about whether its been here a while or not Id say its essentially 0 she had it|1 Honestly I feel like there are people manipulating everything to make all the people who tried to short the market in the last week suffer while they unload their own holdings and then let it all crash when theyre repositioned The market is being absurdly irrational and thats with the massive drops last week|0 You were down voted but this is true A mask becomes damp from breathing into it in what 10 minutes or so At that point you might as well have a virus sponge on your faceEven an N95 wears down after less than an hour I would imagine Even then you have to wear it right and having been fit tested to your size helps This means being clean shaven and then not just touching the outside of it when youre done It captures the virus on the exterior of it so if you dont handle it properly you might as well fuckin just lick it|1 Little kids touch everything and constantly touch their faces etc Im not sure this is the correct take|0 This morning both people with virus recovered and they already leaved hospital No confirmed cases in Russia left except this|0 Right lmao|1 Wasnt it cancelled because almost every company pulled out of the event because it was not profitable for them Yea dont think this will have to do anything with the virus Its in late June|0 I will be messaging you in 14 hours on 20200212 110806 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202002122011080620UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf2ecsubnomapcreatorhererequestingrchinaflushelpfhc36zjcontext3CLICK THIS 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become infected The idea being that this promotes herd immunityThe issue with that is that the virus will spread quickly overwhelming the healthcare infrastructure Its much better to slow the spread if possibleTheyve now started putting more measures in place I think in part because of the backlash they received|1 Ive begun wiping stuff I buy in stores Havent bought store baked bread in weeks I bake my own now I have enough ingredients to bake bread for the next two months and my pantry is filled to the brim I still need some fresh bagged veggies that I put in my freezer to top it all off but in the event of a mass quarantine or when the first cases start popping up in my area Im ready for it My immune system isnt the best so Im not taking any chances And if I do have to go out when covid19 hits the fan here I have my nbc suit rubber boots respirator and gloves for that And some ffp3 masks for when I run out of filters for the mask And enough disinfectant to clean it all as safely as possibleI hope I wont need all of that and that the virus either fizzles out soon or a vaccine can be made But if I do Im ready as can be|1 Soon to be the final parts s Haha|1 Same boat We can work from home I do regularly 23 days per week however my company refuses to let anyone wfh full time right now Very frustrating|0 The reason they are so rich is because of strict fiscal discipline through savings achieved by ignoring public health catastrophes|1 If you dont mind being surrounded by Mormons I guess it would be alright|1 You dont just walk into a hospital in this scenario You call the CDC or Singapores equivalent so they can come fetch you to minimize the chances of you infecting someone else|1 Yeah very trueMy comment was an allusion to this posthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf74ns0somanyofusliterallydontknowanythingandutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf however P|1 Italy had to quarantine entire cities This is quite different from a lockdown Im on lockdown in Spain and it just means that all social venues are closed schools gyms bars restaurants cinemas etc and nonessential shops You can still travel if you have a need to if you work in the next town need to go visit your elderly parent bring your child to a family member to be taken care of You might have to justify yourself to the police though very big fines for those who do not have a legitimate reason to be out A quarantine would mean no one in or out of a town unless they are medical staff or delivery drivers|1 Thanks this confirms experts and elites are dumb as fuck as you can tell by the state of things|0 considering that Canada still accepts flights from mainland china i would certainly want strick controls at the border if i was in USA|1 Its not that there are more cases they are hiding its that they know they had a positive coronavirus patient out spreading it They know that there is no chance that this person did not pass this on to multiple others who will then also be silent asymptomatic carriers spreading it Up until now they have been keeping people quarantined so while there is always the chance they had missed someone now they know for sure that it is out and in the community They just arent going to come right and say that because they need to keep people from panicking|1 Yes but when Italy announced there lockdown for the region of Lombardy thousands and thousands of people flocked from the area and that alone spread the virus even more Also in Wuhan China on Jan 22 scores of people left the city making the situation even more dire Truth is we wont know until Thursday so will just have to wait The UK has a lot of examples to see what can go wrong if it doesnt utilise this then this government is even more stupid than I thought|0 I think its more to do with the sun than temperature either a direct sterilizing effect or perhaps an increase in the vitamin D of the population|1 I wonder how much serum you can get from one person and how many people this could be used to protect against COVID19 Someone with a high titer of antibodies would be a great help|1 Damn I really hope you are right I didnt read it that way|1 Epoch times bullshit reporting over the last few years actually made me question if Fulan Gong might really be a cult Id thought that was only CCP propaganda but now Im not so sure|0 Let me just drop this on Hiroshima and Nagasaki The rest of the war is over anyways|0 Interesting theory basically block it upstream knowing that ACE2 will get knocked out by the virus and not be able to offset what ACE is doingACE inhibitors might be back on the menu boys|0 I could tell you what is going on in those meetings but then I would have to kill you instead you are going to die from the bad decisions we make|0 Has there been anything any data at all to back up the speculation that theres an iceberg of undetectable too mild to care cases I would be more than glad to see something of substance on this Was this true of SARS 1 for instance|1 Need some extra cleaning supplies I have a bunch of freeze dried food already|1 I hope everyone who intentionally spreads it is one of the youth who dies a slow painful death from the disease|0 thanks I was also thinking it might be interesting to see other data that may or may not have anything to do with the spread For instance people seem to think that this is going to go away once spring warms things up so adding current temp as a line on the Daily Change might be interesting|1 How can they present themselves to hospitals when theyre supposed to be in isolation|0 100 sure he wasnt kidding He thinks its a complete waste of time to pay attention to Covid19 He said it will just end up being a nothing like h1n1 or swine flu and he wont stop traveling during this|0 they havr never been effective so your no longer is absurd|0 They could just self quarantine in their giant houses and see if symptoms develop The season was canceled so its not like they have to go to work|0 can you pleas PM me the sup please Thanks|1 We be the Lucky Ones thats one of our charms See ye fuckers in 2 weeks|1 Im right there with you I started to worry about this a couple of weeks ago Just seeing how other countries were going down one at a time was scary On my Snapchat everyone I follow is out and about like normal Although they shut most Northern California schools down for 3 weeks if not all People still think this is a conspiracy Im glad Im stocked up just hope they shut down our building I work for the state of California and they have yet to say anything about closures although we have 20 cases in my cityEdit went from 17 to 29 today in Sacramento CA|0 Not the point this account that posted it was trying to sell fake lsd and fake masks via Instagram The account was a known scammer Had nothing to do with the picture of the mask|0 The problem is 1320 of cases require critical care which at least could mean a patient could require an oxygen tank This could overload the hospitals ability to care for the critical cases With that the mortality rate could increase if this spreads rapidlyCOVID19 Sunday afternoon 23 Feb by Dr John Campbellhttpsyoutube02TwdiRUJTAt118|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Its literally impossible for the tankies on this website to imagine a billionaire doing a good thing|1 pizza also helped feed feds during the government shutdown They def have my business whenever I want pizza|1 Of course we are not talking about an accumulation of all car deaths ever or we would need to accumulate all influences ever to make a comparison Elon claimed that COVID19 is less deadly than car accidents Which is obviously falseIt is a nonsensical statement to claim that COVID19 is less deadly than car accidents projected into the future after the population has immunity and it will no longer be a threatYour chance of dying this year is higher due to COVID19 than a car accident|0 At this point its extremely stupid to joke about coronavirus spreading Its happening|0 I didnt think Id be proud to say Dewine is my governor but damnit hes doing a great job so far|1 Spread it like corona|1 I work in a factory and a couple guys came into work to tell my supervisor that they had symptoms matching the ones associated with COVID19 and that they couldnt work They coughed in the supervisor and lead handmy dads face and walked touched things all through out the plant The rest of us dont have actually confirmation as to whether they have it or not because they havent been tested but they have potentially infected everyone that was there My work sent home the following shift they didnt even let them enter the building and said that theyre going to have a company come in to sanitize the plant My whole shift decided to self quarantine until we get confirmation that the guys are clear or until the 14 days are up except that my work is telling us its not necessary since they dont know for sure if the two guys have it or not and basically that we are just being silly and overreacting And that if we decide to self quarantine were not allowed back to work until weve been tested and come up negative My dad called the hotline and was told oh no your good to go back to work because its doubtful they have it and since none of you are showing symptoms youre good to go back to work tonight Since when do symptoms show up in less than 8 hours And do we really want to take that chance Because that advice goes against everything else that Ive heard Also my work has told us that if we want a record of employment so we can go on EI we have to wait until the next pay periodwhich ironically is in two weeks time|0 Well hopefully that fentanyl supply dries up That would be ONE good thing about this pandemic|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2034399httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2034399Guinea pig not Chinese people and no R0 Do you really feel like you know more about how weather might affect viral transmission in human populations from your study Do the guinea pigs go outside more because of the weather Do they spend more time in the sun The preprint is the best you can do for the ultimate measurable we care about I see you corrected your misunderstanding of the preprint in your OP|1 Just curious how old is your friend|1 Most Americans 915 do have healthcare If you do not and go to the hospital anyway as you would if your condition is severe you will get a bill later If it gets really bad then the government can get involved and cover the costs like via FEMA hospitals I believe|0 What an utter shambles I mean its not like they are providing an important public service in a life and death situation or anything is it|0 Not if the deaths were even across the country 10 million people is a decimal point there Besides do you realize on any normal day 30000 people die in chinaAnd yes I might be a bit high it might have only been 6 million but one thing I know is it was never just 3200 Never China cost themselves over 1 trillion dollars shutting all that down That country would rather have killed a million people|0 They do plenty about the flu They active sample flu genomes and provide vaccines free of charge|1 As soon as C19 made it to Iran I told people were done its in the Middle East well never be rid of it without vaccinationI forgot that America has homeless encampments Until the system changes and these people have housing and services you guys will never be entirely free of the virus Close the borders lock down the cities wont matterNah well just wait for a vaccine|1 I think the argument is the fewer people out in public due to working from home will reduce potential contact with an infected individual|0 Thats the sad reality Go check the most upvoted thread on this sub its a doc from NOLA saying he cant get tests for people unless they traveled Its a pretty crazy read Mississippi does have one case now a guy in Forest county near USM Oddly enough a group of USM students just came back from South Korea They are claiming he got it while in Florida but I doubt theyve done any investigating|0 They test the sewage For real Thats fascinating if true|1 My husband Works at the county water plants so I dont see his job stopping for this virus either Hes considered a high risk too due to his IBD which causes infection in the body so it isnt looking good for us Im seriously worried about this virus and my husbands health Im sorry you have to still go in please know that other jobs wont be able to close down either so youre not alone I pray for you and your family We all need it|0 I like chaiLike the Russian word for tea|1 We need to have a competent Canadian company team up with this South Korean company andor China to get our own testing kit production ramped up The Koreans did it in a matter of a few weeks we need to learn from them Social distancing is key right now thats what we can do to slow this from becoming a meltdown But if we dont have massive testing ready soon were fighting blindly Test test test while were slowing this thing down so we can isolate it and treat it|1 Thing is how would we know super quickly if it can be spread while asymptomatic with a possible incubation of up to 21 days|1 And all the best recovering and TTC|1 httpsnewscgtncomnews20200223ChinasfirstreusableN95maskcomestothemarketOjIq7ly7WUindexhtmlhttpsnewscgtncomnews20200223ChinasfirstreusableN95maskcomestothemarketOjIq7ly7WUindexhtmlInternet cancer free link|0 Exponential growth incoming|1 Yep I agree No doubt that medical personnel cant be reactionaryparanoid about everything but there are definitely precautions that should be put in place especially during an atypical situation Just like all first responders cops firefighters etc EMTs should be properly equipped as well|1 Indeed Im sure I would be sigh|1 Immorality ftfy|0 I was stoned to death by some of my friends because I reminded them that this virus is serious and they should stay at home when possibleNo regret honestly|0 Well its kinda both The ideology of the past 40 years has been government should do next to nothing and so the people at all levels of government are trained to do nothing Trump hasnt really tried to change any of this and generally seems uninterested|1 Seems to me like the number of people who are still calling this a flu has diminished rapidly in the past few days|0 Buy a gun and know how to use it 3 days of food shortages and the gangs will roam neighborhoods|0 If they were diagnosed COVID19 they can be jailed from 1 to 12 years art 452 cp|0 The 2019 novel coronavirus officially designated as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 or SARSCoV2 by the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses informally known as the Wuhan coronavirus is a contagious virus that causes COVID19|0 Jeez Thanks for the advice Ive expressed concerns to my line manager today and I know shes really anxious about the virus as it is Hopefully if I push a little harder something will be done|1 Lol give them even more|1 Or just set up a second computermonitor behind the webcam with a bunch of formulas information etc Just read it like a teleprompter|1 Yeah i used to live in China You should absolutely be stocking up on good food and clean water Do it now before the panic Im really curious whats going on in WuhanGod bless you|1 At least weve got really diluted water I can take positives from this |1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnbccom20200312topushealthofficialsayscoronavirustestingsystemisfailinghtmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 OK now do the results in Xinjiang|1 yes you can absolutely i have anxiety and ocd and have been obsessing over it for a good week|1 Currently 00006 of their population has itThat is a really low number man|0 Ive been to Zurich but according to Clearwatereu Calgary where I live is the cleaner city p|1 You nailed it We are so so screwed here|0 and thats why you failing every time Every single time Lefties cant win an argument without accusing their opponents of being an idiot or poorly educated Lefty can win an election but only one time They cant ever be reelected so in most of cases they label their opponent as idiots or traitors and usurp power|0 Walk outside then look at the sky its almost exactly like that only bigger|1 Well what do you expect when you see how flippant he was when the virus finally broke news in the US|0 Thats what im thinking I really dont want to go to the ER anytime soon Im gonna stick home for a couple weeks and just work from home|0 Brilliant thank you Now reapproved|1 Worst case scenario this goes like h1n1 and will be always present in our lives now Same as the cure ofc But that will take 4 months|0 hello are Iran borders closed do iranians often visit china or chinese visit iran do you live in an isolated place safer or a crowded city |1 Its an analogy designed to show that measures which reduce but not eliminate risk should be taken|1 Weird until you do your own research and find his foundation was sued for their malaria vaccine making thousands of African women infertile|0 Fuck my life please|0 Yeah systems like that are great too In Australia you would end up on disability insurance or take carers leave to look after family so you still get paid but chances are your job wont still be waiting for you in a year or two if you recover|1 Being next to the US really isnt great for Canadian sense of identity sometimes Look at what other countries around the world are doing Canada is doing slightly better than the US which is a total garbage fire right now but thats it Countries with comparable numbers have blocked more flights instituted more quarantines are doing extensive home testing drive through testing etc|0 Thanks Good job with putting it together|1 Im not sure what will happen if hospitals start to get overwhelmed There is probably a liability issue no one is talking about with both the students and volunteers If an employee gets infected at work we are paid to be quarantined for 2 weeks|0 Im not too concerned about myself somewhat healthy and only 19 but Im most worried about my grandmother she raised me because shes 73 and I just cant handle losing her right now|1 Shh Youll interrupt the circle jerk of people thinking that all banks are bad billionaire businesses without thinking about how they get to be billionaire businesses You dont make money by taking away your ability to make money rolleyes|0 Great article and very scientific|1 Sounds like you are trying to reduce your financial exposure|1 Whether or not the virus remains in the body after youve recovered from active infection isnt clear yet theres some talk about it being able to live in nerves afterwards In viruses which can remain in the body eg chicken pox generally people who arent actively infected arent shedding anyenough virus to be a risk to others|0 I have a very mixed opinion on whether the masks work or notOn one hand my dearly beloved mother claims the masks will cut out 70 of whatever you breath in to be unsafe whilst the CDC other health officials claims they do not help protect you at all and are made to prevent the wearer from sneezing coughing their fluids as a safety measure for other peopleBut I have come to terms that its at least better to wear it than nothing at all|1 The panic is a bit much Father is a trauma doctor all the people in his hospital said literally the same thingit basically a new strain of flu They all say media is pumping it up promoting an unneccesary level of hysteria among us plebs I suppose you know doing so WOULD be great for ratingsviewership|0 Right Im not sure why people are so worried about this If we had a clean out break like SK than we would But theres not any reason for us to mass test|1 I have no idea why did you have that kind of misconception about japan Hiding and covering are japanese deep culture|0 I understand how social security works my point is its not enough There is no added benefits to help with bills Some people will call it wellfare but if Govt matched your SS benefits slightly similar to how 401k is matched by your employer it might not be so badEdit Just noticed I answered uanju42 under your comment lol|1 That level of protection wont be enough when you deal with infected people so much Sick patients should wear a mask too and have it replaced regularly You might do well to shave your hair unless you are ready to do full decontamination process often which should be done regardless Supposedly the virus can stay on hairs pretty long and in China the nurses started to shave their heads Expect nurses to get infected and you should seek to contain these patients and nurses in a separate wing closed off to others Use controlled shift rotation on the nurses working with corona patients so that you have crew left to replace them if they get infected and start showing symptoms Id make the same nurses work with the corona patients for 14 days or until they are unable to continue and then replace them Theres also a question about managing the psychological effects in order to avoid workers not showing up Wish you luckHeres a good source for daily infohttpswwwyoutubecomuserCampbellteachinghttpswwwyoutubecomuserCampbellteaching|0 Its also misleading as the vast majority of those cases are unresolved|0 Even coronavirus patients without severe symptoms are sent home|1 I wouldnt call it a lie Confirmed cases are always going to lag severely behind if the epidemic is growing for a myriad of practical reasons|0 I even thought stopping all China flights as too late but a good step But why didnt they followthrough with flights tofrom Italy SK Japan and other places That should be done yesterday from a pure mitigation standpoint Though of course they want to steer between safety and preventing a panic which itself can be unsafe|1 The UK superspreader has infected others while asymptomatic and later developed symptoms so this is possible|0 Heres a sneak peek of rbeijing using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrbeijingtopsorttoptyear of the year1 So ready to leave this toxic cityhttpsnpredditcomrbeijingcommentscrxxmhsoreadytoleavethistoxiccity 2 1930 Rare old video of china from 1930shttpsyoutubehPoSyASd2o 0 commentshttpsnpredditcomrbeijingcommentsdbhgrc1930rareoldvideoofchinafrom1930s 3 Beijing set to exit list of worlds top 200 mostpolluted cities datahttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinapollutionbeijingidUSKCN1VX05Z 4 commentshttpsnpredditcomrbeijingcommentsd32gb8beijingsettoexitlistofworldstop200Im a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|1 You are fake newshttpswwwsnopescomfactcheckobamawaitswineflun1h1|0 Im in downtown LA and I absolutely do not believe we have zero spread The amount of people who arrive and leave through LAX is crazy|0 Round 11 China Millions of people still ready to be infected you cannot sanitise the entire country Theres going to be a hand rail you miss|1 just wash ur hands straight away|1 Ventilation UV sunlight from windows CleaningI wont think the test run cleaned the sample with bleach like an office gets cleaned every morning|1 It may not be significant but in the criteria for how severely WHO views these infections it now will be declared a global pandemic Spread outside of the initial region is what determines if it is a endemic to an outbreak to an epidemic and now to a pandemic|0 We posted that at the same moment haha|1 Wait its pathetic to want time off because youre constantly overworked and underpaid and the only significant time off you can get is due to a potential viral outbreak Geez with folks thinking like that no wonder this country is in such a terrible state Sorry for wanting to actually experience life|0 I checked the etymology of boxer The noun box is of uncertain origin older than the verb possibly related to Middle Dutch boke Middle High German buc and Danish bask all meaning a blow Boxer means fighter so it could be that someone just wanted to give the ship a tough guy namehttpswwwetymonlinecomwordboxeretymonlinev15692httpswwwetymonlinecomwordboxeretymonlinev15692|0 It doesnt take into consideration the amount of people infected but not showing symptoms or not that bad We can only confirm c ases when we test I read earlier today South Korea now is finding a much less fatality rate now that they are testing more|0 Its funny how they say one case shows 24day period and the median is 3 but nothing about the variance A sample size of 1099 is relatively large and they arent very transparent about the stats|1 Im sorry but if shes old enough to be on her own in China then you need to let her make her own choices If shes stupid enough to want to stay then let her deal with the repercussions of that decision Parents need to stop treating their adult children like toddlers|0 Just read it before bed Thank you for sharing |1 Italy at least has sick pay for employees US citizens have been dealing with any utterly broken health care system for years now Weve watch as people close to us have rationed their insulin or live with pain and injury rather than get surgeries that could improve their lives There was already a huge movement demanding changes in this country Thats why youre hearing such outrage from Americans They were angry before this even started and now its boiling over|0 Government moves slowly Sometimes thats a good thing to keep from overreacting and slamming a massive bureaucracy from thing to thing and sometimes it could be a bad thing|0 The mentality is different for Chinese workers They are finding ways to work They dont want to stop They are united to strengthen their county instead of asking for help I learn this first hand from Chinese workers|1 cries in Canadian|0 A true 21st century conservative|1 I dont need a medical degree to quote doctorsx200BDr Richard Hatchett This is the most frightening disease Ive ever encountered in my career and that includes Ebola Its frightening because of the combination of infectiousness a lethality that appears to be manyfold higher than fluhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsff3b0adrrichardhatchettthisisthemostfrighteninghttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsff3b0adrrichardhatchettthisisthemostfrighteningx200BIt will be tough British doctor admits after Italian experts warn one in 10of those infected need intensive carehttpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusitalydoctorsintensivecaredeathsa9384356htmlhttpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusitalydoctorsintensivecaredeathsa9384356htmlutmsourceredditcomx200BHarvard scientist coronavirus pandemic likely will infect 4070 of world this 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Futurehttpswwwtheatlanticcominternationalarchive202003italycoronaviruscovid19westeuropefuture607660httpswwwtheatlanticcominternationalarchive202003italycoronaviruscovid19westeuropefuture607660|0 Im just going to give my opinionIm from a small town in the middle of nowhere PA I cannot fathom how a lockdown would be enforced in rural America We probably have 712 cops in this town A lockdown in a metropolitan area seems to be expected though especially areas that become hot spots for the virus Peoples jobs here are rarely in an office People here cant afford to go a week without pay let alone two or more Infrastructure here would collapse if society forced us to lock ourselves inside Working from home simply isnt an option Schools have been closed for 2 weeks and thats stressing many parents enough as it is Many Americans dont realize the sheer size of the land we know as our country For example Italy is 325 times smaller than the US The US government seems to be comfortable with their death expectations 20000017 million 327 million people in America Even at the worst outcome 17 mil the US will see 004 lose their lives Compare to the 480000 deaths from smoking in the US per year this all becomes very less scary Essentially 1 of 2500 people are expected to die Is this acceptable Hardly Should the healthy be concerned about the virus and keeping away from elderly sick frail absolutely No one knows how this will end I appreciate this sub for the insight it provides Though Ive felt myself overreacting more than I should I feel it is important for me to understand the reality of the situation The information I provided certainly helped me center myself Im thankful I am still young and it good health I hope my comment provides a bit of relief for othersI edited this for accuracy|0 I wash my hands and since the corona panic started I was told to start carrying a mini sanitizer bottle in my purse that I use throughout the day|0 Not to mention possible looting muggings riots that may occur This shit aint gonna end well|0 Right we just to accept many of us will die|0 Nah its way out there on the west coast Basically a whole other country|0 Funny they do this when they DONT ASK ANY QUESTIONS AT THE AIRPORT I flew through Zurich yesterday coming from Singapore Entry agent didnt ask where we came from or any questions about our previous 2 weeks of travelling Let us through after a minute No temp checking anywhere either|1 Yes and its the most prevalent symptom still|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationPlease contact us if we made a mistake|0 Glad to be of help|1 Because recoveries outpacing infections is still good news even if some people are unfortunately left with long term health problems Fewer infections means fewer patients with potential permanent damage|0 see this is crazy Ive been sick for a few weeks but it got insanely worse last weekend I went to urgent care they said I had a URI Laryngitis Then Monday I felt 100x worse went to my primary dr said it was the flu didnt test for it sooo Ive had major backchest pains cough is insane I ended up going to the ER thursday at 3am and they said the flu test was negative didnt know what was wrong I was having insane trouble breathing and they just sent me home My lymph nodes in my neck have been swollen and achy I dont understand why they dont test Im in Los Angeles where we have cases and I go to a big University so who knows I still feel shitty but im at school currently since they said nothing was wrong|0 Please do not refer these types of questions to the coronavirus sub They dont belong there either |1 I highly doubt that There likely wont be enough demand for any flights tofrom China relatively soon Its already starting to happen and thats with the bigger airlines I wouldnt be surprised if theres a point in the coming months where theres no flights at all tofrom most of China if not the entirety Im only speaking commercial flights of course|0 Please keep posting this if it gets removed If need be I will provide help because this shit is infuriating|0 Yeah but theyre wealthy and were a bunch of goddamn proles|0 Im feeling like one of those people in disaster movies that tries desperately to warn everyone of an impending crisis but because no one listens then the thing happens|0 Instead of banning weird tropical food they ban games D|0 Theres a difference between Oh Ill wash my hands more and Im going to avoid any Chinese people I see in my backwards racistass town because Im scared theyll give me the virus by looking at me|0 Fue un typo corazn y no meto miedo es algo muy serio O acaso en serio crees que estamos preparados para una pandemia Crees que el cabecita de algodn nos va a salvar con amor y abrazos|1 why is germany as old as italy and having that low deathrate|0 It got to all American countries like that people coming from vacation in Europe mostly Italy and some of them dont giving a fuck about quarantine|1 Youre telling me that those 50k recovered dont have antibodies preventing reinfection Why dont we have another spike of reinfected patients then People downvote similar comments because it is spreading misinformation|0 Thanks and yeah def not the end of civilizationstock market or anything I definitely saw a dip coming and might have been able to take advantage of it is all Also think some of the high growth stuff I have might not recover for a while but it probably will eventually|1 Bullshit the mortality rate is higher by any metric imaginable|0 Actually youll find its mostly Americans blaming Americans The rest of us dont have time for your shit|0 Name of hospital please Was this following a 111 call Please give details to us who have all symptoms but government refusing to test us|0 Yes but this seems more pressing so surely more resources would be allocated|1 Yea the truth has that affect sometimes|1 Amazon warehouses will be full|1 I hope they give us rationing books again I always wanted to try rationing|1 How do they know it was 27 days incubation He tested positive then 27 days passed before symptoms Couldnt it have been a false positive|1 Im mailing my grandparents my masks Hopefully I end up okay but they need them|1 Thats not everything Every person who had civil duty the past 5 years will be reactivated to help fight the crisis|0 Will it now die in the Senate Tune in tomorrow to find out the exciting conclusion|0 Doesnt help that China has lied about basically everything since day 1|0 100But this is a giant circle Anyone that is hounding you to pay your bills is the same person who also needs the money In my situation I have a rental property with a mortgage and the rent barely covers it This tenant is not going to be able to pay Which means I cant pay the mortgage Which means its going to be foreclosed on and he will be kicked out And as greedy as these banks have been I understand the thought process of the banks suffering losses by just saying skip a payment They could do this on a small scale But a small scale isnt what is needed It is a MASSIVE scale and 100 impossible for the banks to do without failing Especially now that a bank run in brewing Again people do not understand what we are facing here The virus is separate from the economic collapse Both of those events by themselves were going to be tragic Now they just folded beautifully into each other This is bad If you dont think its bad tell me what you think is going to happen|0 Theres a statistical effect at play here read this threadhttpstwittercomAdamJKucharskistatus1229708001243795458 The numbers should hopefully look better in a couple of days|1 Thank you|1 No if you feel like you need to be hospitalized then be hospitalized but not if you just want to get tested You are taking up available space for people at greater risk and unable to self recover Call your insurance and your local health department If you are a generally healthy adult then you will recover on your own by caring for your symptoms and being smart If you have a compromised immune system or other reasons to be at greater risk you should be able to get tested|1 My college does an early spring break and we have students from all over the country who traveled home and are coming back to campus tonighttomorrow I feel like Im guaranteed to get it|1 Ive felt similarly I think theyre boiling a frog with the death rates too to be honest They increase it a fraction of a percentile almost every day but not enough to be too alarming|0 httpswwwsciencenewsorgarticlecoronavirusmostcontagiousbeforeduringfirstweeksymptomsThis is where I read about this buts its all very early so of course something could come out later proving this wrong|0 Yes its definetely a bad idea to keep parks open but think about how many people would be out of jobs if they did close Im sure they get some paid leave since it would be out of their control but a lot of those workers unfortunately live check to check and if they arent let back to work quickly they could face a LOT of problemsThen again the list of problems wouldnt involve dying from a pandemic|0 I wonder if the political leaders looking to do this have considered that they may be dragged out and lynched by the end of it|0 one video like this would be a probable LARP two to five might be a group of fearmongering assholes this is now beyond anything I can believe to be fake |0 I think Id rather just sit in my car for the duration sat here now thinking if I go home am I taking the virus inside I have been exercising an increase in hand hygiene and use detol spray on my shoes and clothes before I enter the house for three weeks now but its the uneducated masses that dont practice good hygiene which cause me the most concern Once its inside you you are contagious the latency period is a huge problem in all of this|0 The German ones are very interesting They seem to be the clearest example of transmission in the incubation phase people infected by a person who had travelled from China and allegedly only first developed symptoms on her flight backAustralias up to seven now Second case in Victoria and a new one in Queensland|0 Thanks for this article NYT Its spot on|1 and they get medical treatment they need in the interimThats probably not true to any significant extent Hubei is at its maximum capacity There is no more medical treatment to give This might lead to more triaging where the worst cases are denied treatment and those with a better likelihood of long term health are given preference|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well seeing as i havent had the flu or really any sickness for e years even though that flu ended a few weeks ago even then it was really only 3 days i thino i should be good thank you for informing me|1 Probably also means the death rate is lower than initially thought though|0 you might wanna go to Some ASEAN countries like SingaporeMalaysiaVietnamThailand or Taiwan|1 A lot of us dont work for people as reasonable as you so our panic is quickly becoming anger But youre an essential employee Im a fucking software engineer I can do 99 of my job remotely And when the government says essential employee they mean nuclear power plant operators and EMS|0 Youre wrong on literally every count Theres no point anymore Youre clearly here because you enjoy arguing not because you enjoy a productive discussion or actual analysis of factsCuts were made Trump is responsible youre going out of your way to defend him for no reason other than what one can reasonably assume is an affinity for him because no one in their right mind defends Trump when they recognize all the other crimes and atrocities he has committed in his lifetime Once again its not politics to state facts Only a fucking idiot like yourself would be stupid enough to suck Trumps dick so hard you think criticism is being partisan Seriously go fuck yourself|0 Wasnt a petition but GDC was cancelled a few days ago Id say theres a decent chance this is cancelled|0 Literally DPRK executed someone with a anti aircraft gun for some reason|0 by following the CDC guidelinesThe scary thing though is that the people who run the agency are not completely dependent of our lunatic president|0 Better|1 The flight was most likely CZ311 Guangzhou to Toronto the only fight from that location on that date|0 Must have a god complex like a typical athlete and think nothing can stop him so why not joke about it Now loom what he did He caused at least 5 teams to be quarantined in the NBA along with any friends and family he came in contact with Even employees for the Utah Jazz will have to be quarantined|1 If there is really going to be a shortage no matter what the fairest thing to do would be to ration masks so that everyone can get at least a few Putting a price cap solves nothing With market prices at least people are disincentivized from buying in bulk and leaving none for others or buying masks even if theyre not the most at risk Of course the downside is the poor are disadvantaged|0 The shit thats in vaccines has been proven over and over and over and over to be safe for humans Get your anti vaccine shit out of here|0 For those unfamiliar over the past decade or so China has been buying up huge chunks of land and investing heavily into the infrastructure of Ethiopia Its been having a huge ripple effect on the economy and as noted wellbeing of the people Not to say that it isnt promoting growth or expansion its just very aggressive and Chinalike They throw tones of money at the problems and ignore the effects on the job marketindustry of the country|0 Sad he was at the front line of this Im no fan of the CCP but the ordinary people of China bought a lot of time for tbe rest of tbe world |0 RightI cant convince my husband Im leaving it alone|0 Source on rapid spread in warm countries|1 N1|1 Exactly this This is whats needed to avoid this place coming rnews Occasional updates from the US arent minded but literally news like mayor of town X from Southern Nevada says delays might be happening with testing arent relevant at all to the world wide pandemic|1 Good You deserve it|1 In the Netherlands way smaller and in high state of isolation there are over 200 new cases in one Day We got the first measures of closing down large events 100 thursday since yesterday almost everything except vital stuff is closed down But there are door many bloody idiots on the streets I needed a hospital visit today for something minor drain that had to be taken out from an abcess I saw hundreds of people walking around chatting and greetings eachother still with bloody kisses on the cheek Anyway my husband has a heartcondition We are in strict quarantaine because of it I lost him almost six months ago already Its voluntary but with three small children and him being only 31So the government is doing the right thing but people are being stupid|0 In the majorwealthy cities yes But India is 2 different countries The wealthy educated cities and the poor backwater|1 I mean he might be made up but Im sure somebody has to deliver hummus to the grocery stores|1 During the Spanish Flu people made masks out of gauze and other materials Studies show even a bandana is better than nothing|1 17 year old spent too much time requesting data by API and now made shit on one single website|0 Medicare for all would be good|1 They based it off other data about community spread Since they just confirmed community spread in OH estimates are about 1 percent of the population is infected for community spread to happen It may mean the disease in super mild or unnoticeable in most people or it could also mean it is still in the incubation period and our hospitals havent gotten inundated yet|1 Everything is 2020 in hindsight If I think about what most people were thinking just 2 weeks ago its hard to blame one entity for lack of action Shouldnt we focus on what we are willing to do now The question is still the same How dramatically are we willing to disrupt our economy in favor of saving lives now and what will a disrupted economy mean for lives later|0 I work for Charter and have underlying health concerns My options are to use all of my vacation stick leave to stay home to avoid getting sick which will not last me until the crisis has passed or take unpaid leave My job is one that can very easily be done remotely|0 Of course not They have the competence required to fucking save lives I sure hope they are paid well|1 I literally cant tell if youre being sarcastic If not I work in restaurants and have done for 13 years if youd like any further information please let me know and Ill do my best to answer any questions you have|1 If you can sew there are free patterns a Google search away|1 I may be downvoted a lot but I want healthy debateSomeone posted here about how they were denied testing in the USA because they are only testing people bad enough to need an ICU Otherwise they are sent home and told to isolate could this actually be a good thing more people getting tested means more potentially contagious people all going to the testing locations increasing chances of transmission A shortage of hospital beds and equipment can be avoided this way for the people who need it most|0 When Im able to distract myself successfully I notice the moment I come back to the reality of this virus I notice my symptoms appear I then look back and realize my breathing was absolutely fine when I was doing something else other than thinking about corona lol Its amazing how hyper aware you will be of any little sensation when youre anxious lol I also have a dry cough and a tickle in my throat it comes and goes all day long in regards to severity and even typing this now made my throat tickle and I had to cough Anxiety is a bitch Also physically Ive noticed its harder to breathe because my chest and back are so tight my rib cage is harder to expand than usual Of course my first thought is corona but I remind myself I literally have this breathlessness and fear of suffocating a few times a month regardless of the pandemic or not|0 Its better than nothing You are correct that there must be a good middle layer|1 I think we like to put ourselves down out of habit but once shit hits the fan people are actually acting and willing to support each other Kind of heartening in a way|1 Funnily enough the Indian numerals are no longer used in any part of the Indian subcontinent lol|1 Except that in many areas judges are canceling anything that isnt an emergency May be difficult to find a judge willing to do a courthouse wedding at this point|0 Of the 79561 cases there has only been 5 deaths 002 of deaths 0006 of cases between the ages of 2029 Of 2619 deaths only 25 009 didnt have preexisting illnessesYou do not fit the profile of those at risk from COVID19 Does that mean it isnt a problem NoBut you are statistically unlikely to be affected adversely I hope that helps Source WorldOMetershttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics|1 That is a lot of dough for prepping Are you confident you bought the right things Ive got 6 mo supply of food water cooking gas and medicines etc for a family of 4 and wouldnt have spent more than 350 US and Im longterm nutjob so this is a regular rotation|1 Not trueI checked this out because of coughs in the house since beginning of the weekA new cough means new to you so youve not been coughing for 6 months due to lung cancer you dont have COPD etc Your youngest has a new cough Its not new from the date the guidelines started We were told to self isolate for 7 days Coughs are gone now just to figure out if we have to finish our 7 days or not|0 This just in the citizens of Wuhan enjoy sprinkling SARS salts on their exotic Wuhan fish|1 Im an American who doesnt have any medical issues like you but it sounds like were in the same financial boat Though things are great today I know I could lose my job end up in a car accident or end up sick and see life become very hard very fast I cant control the economy the internal biology of my body or other drivers on the road Most Americans are walking on a tightrope with no net and we dont even realize it A conservative friend of mine thinks if I got cancer nothing at all would change My job has to keep paying me and my insurance has to cover all expenses Its exactly why Im voting for stronger social programs even though it would raise my taxes I consider a tax raise for more social programs a sort of insurance policy so if something happens I dont have to worry about being homeless or being without care Well I can worry less about it In the end hopefully nothing happens and its like every other insurance policy I have I paid into it and never needed to use it Id much prefer that over the alternative needing to use it Good luck fighting your cancer friend Stay strong|1 Thanks for providing the balanced context|1 Actually cauliflower rice can be pretty good Fried cauliflower rice is delicious|1 thats really cool i enjoyed that read because i like to examine the failure cases that way in the future you are able to better discern which is which before its too late|1 Im concerned that no one seems to be worried about us out here in the middle of the Pacific with our supply chain extremely dependent on other people and other states|0 Its not only 600 lol|0 Her license wont be touched and a career is a very small price to pay in exchange for saving lives especially when youre so highly skilled that finding a new job is a trivial exercise As for powerful enemies Republicans prove time and again that they have no idea how to wield the power theyve been givenShell be fine and every other government scientist should follow her lead|0 whats with those ridiculous video game names|0 Bill Gates is running a 125M initiative to fund accelerate this kind of development He Peter Hotez should contact them and try to convince themhttpstechcrunchcom20200310gateswellcomeandmastercardlaunch125millionfundtofinancecovid19treatments|1 Hope you get my point|1 The problem is that if the symptoms are so mild then that 25 year old will be out and about infecting much more vulnerable people esp if they work in a public facing role The 25 year old shrugs it off but the elderly and those with chronic health conditions its deadlySo yeah its scandalous that testing is not more inclusive|0 Seriously Jesus Christ what is going on in this thread This isnt going to be Mad Max its a fucking respiratory virus|0 The lab certification part is the part you should rail against CDC for The consent issue is more complicated As a patient you should have the right to know how your samples and health data will be used and processed The patients hadnt consented to having their samples collected for something other than the flu when they agreed to participate in the studyNow could the reaearchers have gone back and reconsented those patients with the agreement of the state or local Institutional Review Board Absolutely And that would have been a good thing too allow them their autonomy while also giving them notice about the possibility of COVID19|1 To keep this in perspective the world expected some level of pro from the States Instead they have people diagnosed going to concerts and a pressident feeding the country lies What a shit show Next time usa talks shit against China they should remember this|0 Thats fine They dont really matter People worked all their lives to pay taxes and contributed thrown in the dustbin because they dont pay taxes anymore Two weeks ago I would have said this was a conspiracy theory Now Im starting to wonder|0 So in this game youre the plague I thought its a game where you stop a plagueHow does the plague affect what humans do|0 Well done I hope you have some ointment from the rash you get from jerking yourself off about it|1 Good|1 The second wave of the spanish flu struck in the middle of summer this is new so all bets are off|0 That sucks any way you can say no and enforce a boundary|0 So will people stop being banned for mentioning my sub c v news now It would be great to not have some much division here when ultimately we are all in this together|0 This is very true I agree|1 I honestly think theyre just worried people wont actually work once they get home I think they worry people will look at this pandemic realize their employer has a high likelihood of ending up bankrupt before the year is done lose motivation to do their work and just end up watching Netflix and hanging out on Reddit all day long because at some point why not Specially when govts start making arrangements for mortgagepayment delays etc I think having some people in the office keeps a sense of normalcy and keeps the athome workers having to meet demands of inoffice workers keeping them more entrained in a work frame of mind|0 Excellent thanks this is one of the best looks inside Diamond Princess so far Its something But very much not reassuring sounds like very few infectious disease protocols were enacted and entirely run by disaster management leadership corporate leadership and government leadership Thats the quick of it so far|1 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 The one from Italy saying smokers were 2x more likely to require intensive care|1 I went in and they could tell I was a little off and I sort of just exploded Said I didnt feel comfortable working and they were very nice about letting me take this week offThats exactly what they wanted you to volunteer taking time off Now they dont have to pay to give you time off or pay unemployment insurance to lay you off or put you on furlough|0 what a national treasure|1 the very source you posted seems to contradict you now I invite anyone to prove me wrong For a few diseases and viruses most related to what we are talking about here THC CBD and even synthetic cannabinoids were observed to show positive effects such as reducing brain damage and neurogogical damage in the case of pneumonia for example For legionnaires however it did show to cause negative effects I dont think this virus give you legionnaires disease personally i would also take any study that uses language such as The little information available concedes that cannabinoids can reduce neurological damage but more information is necessary in this regard with a grain of salt the whole thing appears to have ulterior motivesedit it gets better it actually shows strong antimicrobial and antibacretial effects also all forms of in vitro sativa extracts i know imma be smoking a bunch still|1 I honestly hope she has Humans seriously suck|1 Experts are trying to tell people to prepare You think Bill Gates warns about the potential disaster in Africa to sell papers|0 GG were fucked now Time to start mutating fatal symptoms|0 I think its safer to assume you have it or everyone has it|1 No symptoms no worry s|0 selfish |0 Yup then it will be mass fear and panic most dangerous virus ever everyone must get the shotI expect them to attempt to make it mandatory to inject everyone|0 Not just the ventilatorsphysical equipment more difficult is the number of respiratory therapists you need to run the machines And the ICU nurses to take care of the patient And the intensivistsresidentsNPPAs to write the ordersVentilator Mfrshttpswwwrtmagazinecomproductstreatmentmonitoringtreatmenttherapydevicesproducts2019ventilationhttpswwwrtmagazinecomproductstreatmentmonitoringtreatmenttherapydevicesproducts2019ventilation|1 Nice to be accused of being commie People more frequently me of right wing extremism Hohum|1 Youre fake newsWHO|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 They will sacrifice Wuhan for the rest of China Thats pretty much what theyre doing right now|1 That was an exaggerated joke of a virus in hindsight|1 counterterrorism meeting attacked by terrorism|0 Im sorry but this is a big stretch to make Neurons do not regenerate If respiratory failure was caused by medullary neuron necrosis no one would be coming out alive of the ICU whereas thankfully we see people recover all the time Plus no other medullary function seems to be affected and surely the virus cant tell which neurons do what Autopsy reports from both SARS and COVID also clearly point to acute lung damage as the main pathological finding Im not discounting CNS involvement but I frankly do not think its the main cause of concern here Also I dont think that CNS involvement has anything to do with positive tests This virus behaves very similarly to SARS and we saw nothing like that in it Positive tests have happened in pharingeal and anal secretions which hardly have anything to do with the brain stem As far as nausea and vomiting go the virus has a demonstrated tropism for gastrointestinal cells hence why it can be found in anal swabs|1 Ive got to lose another 20 lbs before Im considered overweight and no longer obese Im also prone to bronchitis whenever I get a respiratory infection Im pretty screwed stats wiseThat said Ive been losing about 1lb a day on this extreme keto diet Im on so I should hit that in 20 days assuming I dont get CORVID19 before thenEven then I might get ill sooner because my body isnt exactly responding well to having lost 15lbs in the last month Dizzy tired and whatnot I might be screwed anyway by the time Im a healthy weight again|0 harder yes but not at all impossible old people die all the time whos gonna kno afterwards what granny died of a distant acquaintance of mine 60 died of walking pneumonia of unknown cause lately no tests performed not saying this is corona at all but how are you gonna know what old people died of|0 I completely understand Im here in southern Italy wondering what exactly entails on this quarantine Ive prepared a bit but now Im wishing I had done more|1 If this is true than its airborne and not droplet I find this hard to believe that the totality of Western and European nations have this wrongFurther I find it fascinating China magically knows this in combination with their insane control measures relative to the asymptomatic initial weeksSomething is fishyEdit The more I hear about this I sadly start to gravitate towards theres a bigger picture here The shear chance this mutated as quickly as it did and coincidentally has airborne 30 minute capability along with the capability of post recovery fatality from auto immune issues is insane to me The bow on top is how China magically knew this on day one and went full marshal law|0 Whoever lets go first loses|0 All these facilities can really do is make sure you stay fed and hydrated to give your immune system the best possible chance to fight the infection Also attempts to separate the sick from non sick but it might be too late in Wuhan to try and make that separation|1 Post an overview in the bathroom stalls Intelligent people cant help but read there|1 Oh and here is a preprint asshole go do some research next timelatest estimated values of the cCFR were 53 95 CI 35 75 for Scenario 1 and 84 95 CI 53 123 for Scenario 2httpswwwmdpicom2077038392523|1 This was comforting thank you It was especially comforting because it seems like were getting so little information in the States thats measured and informative|1 Im trying but all the boomers keep saying how were all overreacting and just using this as an excuse to get off work so maybe Ill just take their advice and stop caring|0 Thats not too dangerous And by saying that what I mean is the decision will be taken from him in 2 weeksIts the people that are supposed to be leaving the in next like 4 days that are worrying Those people will still be able to make stupid decisions|0 Our test kits in the US are too beautiful to waste on the publicWe have the best test kits|1 Im sure Trump will react to this with the utmost of urgency and good sense |1 Unfortunately that is not what the article saysWhen it was originally published the writers mistakingly wrote that there was a positive case They had to fix it and days later people were saying there are no confirmed cases in DallasAs Dwight Shrute once said I chose my words very carefully If they do not tell the press that the case is positive there are still no confirmed cases I would like to see them say as they have reported elsewhere the case turned out negativeResults Negative for Baylor Student Tested for Coronavirushttpswwwbayloredumediacommunicationsnewsphpactionstorystory216430Texas AM Student Tests Negative for Coronavirus University Sayshttpswwwnbcdfwcomnewshealthtexasamstudenttestsnegativeforcoronavirusuniversitysays2298805Brazos County Health District Negative test result for local suspected coronavirus casehttpswwwtheeaglecomnewslocalbrazoscountyhealthdistrictnegativetestresultforlocalsuspectedarticled4d61b02408811eaa5e763db1c4a4462html|0 Yeah honestly I was super excited to stay home since school got canceled for at least 2 days and we wont have inperson classes until the end of the semester Some much anime backlogtv show backlog to catch up to I can finally finish my Robin Hood book collection and other novels I havent been able to read can start putting more work on a software application that school held back and start correcting more parts of my novel and my novellaUnfortunately nothing really changed since my school is well organized No homework got canceled they are all submitted online my next exam didnt get canceled it was to be done online and classes will be online by Wednesday anyways So all that stuff I was excited to do is still in my backlog sadly I mean on one side I wont be graduating late On the other I was so excited|1 Lol every American that gave France shit for throwing in the towel on containment needs to eat some humble pie right about now Fuck we gave up fast on that|0 Ich habe in 2 Monaten die Matura Das wird spannenden|0 The problem is you cant easily close these parents then have to stay home or even worse the grandparents have to take care and they are by far the most critical group|0 Official statistics as of tonight show that 98 of the deaths so far in Italy are people 60 and older and the remaining 2 were between 50 and 59 78 of deceased patients had at least one comorbidityItaly has perhaps the highest rate of smoking in the world Anything else is hearsay or fear mongering|0 You have no evidence to support your opinion Canada doesnt just have unlimited money to print and hand businesses to make it through a total shut down|1 To be honest the first I heard about it was on sky news but there is an express article outlining the plans If you do a quick Google search for coronavirus uk and change it to news youll find quite a lot of info there|1 Not snake There was one paper but its apparently facing criticisms and other geneticists are showing thats its not snake Thats the problem with the press though They see a paper get published and run with it for it starts getting peer reviewed|0 They have tweeted that the numbers assume cases deaths are coming later this afternoon Weird that its still on the website|0 Probs had nothing to do with concerns over illness From FB post sounds like it was a youre in my way situation that escalated and involved racist shit being said|0 Japan and robots is just PR because they are known for it The inability to use early comptuers due to their written language being too hard for early processors to display really hit Japan and its not actually a technologically advanced nation it just keeps pretending it is like it once was|0 Why is this comment in so many threads here the information that there is a risk for healthy people too have been visible here from the startJust that it is far lower than for the older populationEven in the news cases like the whistleblower and his wife got coverage|1 Because the world is changing We will not be the same coming out of this The businesses that do this kind of shit wont be there when this ends|0 One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 00266 and 00106 respectivelySimple solution increasing temperature by 120 degrees will reduce R0 from 3 to 0|1 Most cases are asymptomatic Hmmmm seems like its not as big of a deal as its being made to be|1 I predict like Wuhan soon the doctors and nurses will get infected and any new patients basically cant get in the hospitalx200BAnd then the politicians will realize they HAVE TO build new hospitalsx200BI mean Iran is probably at that point anyway|0 There is a 1 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 14 days on 20200325 004500 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003252000450020UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfgdhovpresumedasymptomaticcarriertransmissionoffk5td93context3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCOVID192Fcomments2Ffgdhov2Fpresumedasymptomaticcarriertransmissionof2Ffk5td932F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032520003A453A0020UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fgdhovInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Cool I wonder if these tests will be available in the United States within the next century I wont hold my breath|1 Im at a resort right now anxious to get back home to Canada and Im looking out the window at people at the pool without a care in the world Theres at least 50 people out there with not much room in between them Im curious to see if theyre going to shut it down Ill be back home tomorrow morning if all goes well Please be safe out there Take extra precautions|1 He claimed the article didnt specify a sourceIt did the victims familySheesh|0 Dude I pay 37 for Gigabit with unlimited And 22 for fair use unlimited on my phone 1 TBWhat is wrong with your country|0 I manage a retail store in a mall My company literally refused to even shorten our hours until today and only did because the mall forced them to They want us to wash our hands every half hour and put tape on the floor 3 ft apart to indicate where customers can stand but we are running low on cleaning supplies now as they wont restock us I literally sell nothing anyone could possibly need but because people arent taking this seriously and are still coming to the mall out of boredom Im being forced to stay open|0 Hundreds of labs can test for it Theyre not allowed to Its not that they dont want to|0 aaaa just when I have tickets for escaping Beijing and going to Japan|1 The podcast Radiolab has a fun episode on it|1 A perfect flu just like the phone call Putin Dump|1 We had world peace when Pokemon Go first launchedfun times|1 if he were responsible he would support Medicare for all because it would allow for anyone to get a coronavirus test free One test costs 3270 if you have no insurance Heaven knows how many people are going to avoid getting tested and will spread the disease on accident|1 I can I dont even know what to do with the footage This story is so much bigger than the virus Its about government distrust within the American populous|0 Which basically means Rush doesnt give a shit Not like he ever did|1 Theres been zero updates fromThe diamond princess for what feels like forever now so idk if we can take that data as fact rn|1 You cant show off with your medal on social media afterwards|1 You used to be an employee like us then you caught a cold |1 I hope youre right|1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200328 154548 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003282015454820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfih6f1with500deadirantoemptythestreetscheckallfkhketecontext33 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffih6f12Fwith500deadirantoemptythestreetscheckall2Ffkhkete2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032820153A453A4820UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fih6f1InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 It sounds like this is basically just a way to replace nasal oral and lung swabs The downstream processing of the samples isnt that different from the CDC test Its also a ways off Theyre just seeking funding for development|1 This evasive language is going to get so many killed And Im not exaggeratingThe public need to know the cold hard truth about this illness|0 Nice|1 And with what weapons are they going to protest How will they defend themselves when the tanks come crushing them Even Americans now are giving up their guns because of feelingsCCP is heading toward Total Victory and no one have the balls to stop them Certainly not pussies merely voicing their complaints lol|0 Please keep in mind that anxiety over this virus can cause chest pain and a weakened immune system if you were in need of serious medical care you would know without a doubt and unless you have been in direct contact with the virus you cannot really do anything other than regular preventative measures and monitor yourself|1 Cue News spokes person The seasonal kills thousands each year|0 Thank you for risking your health and safety I hope you and your family stay well|1 This is very specifically a lesson learned from the first SARS outbreak the people who used the respirators got sick because the effort to sanitize is higher than you think so they just accumulated contamination Thats why they switched to disposable masks And again those only work if you only use them once and know how to take them off without contaminating yourself Which again is why they are all but useless to the general public Because you need like 6 of them a day and you need to be trained to use them|0 Im expecting a lot of suicides and possibly even more deaths of despair I live in a state that is really poor and has a lot of entire families living in small areas We already compete for the worst with opiod alcohol suicide etc What happens when peoples lives are disrupted their grandparents taken some of their social ties broken by isolation|0 LOL as much as there is to admire about the Singapore Governments response to COVID 19 its been amusing seeing the state owned media carefully dance around who exactly it was that organized the SAFRA Jurong dinner that infected 36 people HinthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPeople27sAssociationSingapore it doesnt paint the government in the best lighthttptheindependentsgnetizenwritesopenlettertopeoplesassociationchairmanpmleeanddeputychairmanchanchunsingaftercovid19clusteratsafrajurong|1 Im in Fed Hill and saw the idiots everywhere When the bar crawl near us was canceled the bros in the group house next to me had 40 of their closest friends over for a 12 hour party Today we hear one complaining through out shared wall that he didnt feel well and had a cough|1 Italian here 26 yo Got cough and very slight fever one week ago Cough worsened today cmon now|0 Lets hope not|1 But when you dont rely on confirmed info you just spawn rumors Look at all the dumpster fire of misinformation in this sub and especially mainstream subs Most peoples ability to think critically is pretty limited these daysFor instance the CDC has never said masks are ineffective but somehow that seems to be the narrative Heck even those who are pro masks on this sub seem to think the CDC has said theyre ineffective|0 I would be endlessly grateful|1 Every kiss begins with coronavirus|1 Right but this is systematic racism Why even bother mentioning Chinese why not just say takeaway I agree there are people avoiding eating out anywhere but this is the vast minority and being a chef I am very aware of the numbers of people still eating out This whole discussion would not have happened without systematic racism|0 When this is all over a lot of us will be wrong and a lot will be right I hope with all life in the universe Im dead wrong|0 Agreed man Sad really|0 I know right Then we bitch about how they gouge us via parking fees at said hospital|0 Hide mine in the attic|0 Thanks Big Media|1 Israel is also currently in election season so guess politicians need to show they are proactive|1 Savage burn Now go wash your hands for touching so close to the truth|0 Id like to suggest that Tony Fauci be temporarily made President while we sort this out|1 I always felt as many of us have that China wasnt releasing accurate numbers and this makes me even more sure of it The videos and reports of crematoriums in Wuhan running 247 that couldnt be confirmed definitely seem way more probable with these numbers in Italy So devastating|0 2020 is going to be a wild ride Not just the peak of the pandemic but the aftermath And the election I think this is the year Im going to start drinking my anxiety away|0 I would be surprised if you saved any lives that way Save your energy for washing your hands and educating others|1 The main purpose of this sub is inside lines like this conversation Thanks for posting We arent testing this is all we have |1 Welding people shut in their apartments is not normal disaster relief dude|1 I wish they had set up one in Milan as well|1 Yeah Fuck regular citizens who need masks|0 Seeing these numbers is both sobering and terrifying It makes it clear that were really only in the infancy of this thingI feel so bad for doctors right now This is a nightmare situation Most are doing double shifts having to work with very limited resources and so they are draining both physically and mentally I cant imagine being in Italy right now and having to chose who lives and dies|0 Yeah most people are like no biggie and yeah not for me but my brother father and a bunch of other people are high risk I dont want them to get it from me because that would haunt me|0 When you put it that way Im thinking stalling it a few weeks might be the best approach|1 I dont understand your point In the above comment they mention 61 are critical 40 700 57 so they seem to corroborate one another|0 Any theory on where and when you were exposed to the virus Are you quarantined in a location with access to everything you needIs there something we can do to help|1 Shanghai Changning Same Except nonresidents need to signin to enter the xiaoqu Deliveries are collected at the gate Couldnt get Hema yesterday so went to supermarket Was well stocked but felt a little pricey Might just be used to Hema though havent been to a supermarket in ages|1 Hi sorry if this is the wrong place for this I am a bit confused by the CDC guidelines am I supposed to avoid all social contact like a friend coming over or just all contact with those not feeling 100|0 Im leaning more towards the idea that there are way more people who have it and have had it than we are even consideringIf a mild case feels like a bad cold this would have to be true Most people dont go to the doctor when they just have coldlike symptoms even people with insurance|1 Thats a pretty racist thing to say Grow up|0 I think the wake up call was China threatening to block exports of medication to the US given that most medication in the US is made in either China or India Which gets its precursors from China|0 Yeah this is just common sense Eat at home folks Take snacks on the go Dont assume any precautions were taken Practice discernment and wisdom|1 Im going to start calling it the uncommon cold Ironic considering it will soon be the most common cold if it isnt already|0 I was unaware that multiple4 is the reddit account for the US government|0 Ty President Trump er I mean Governor Cuomo|1 this im so tired of people acting like the Chinese government has been handling this properly Whilethe measures they have put into place recently have been effective at combating the spread of the virus they certainly shouldnt have been silencing whistleblowers for warning other professionals about a potential outbreak back in December Literally all ofthis couldve been avoided to the scale it is at now if the Chinese government wasnt an oppressive regime that hates Winnie the pooh and other fun things like freedom of speech|1 good guy CVS|1 Plus billionaires make their money in the first place because of hundreds of millions of middle class people buying stuff for more than its worth and working for less than they deserve|1 Americans are so uneducated Thats whats gonna be the real killer I swear Im the only one I know taking this shit seriously|0 Welcome to 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subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Are you calling Governor Cuomo a liar for what he said on Good Morning America this morning|0 Im sure theyll figure out a way to do that soon enough|1 Youre in my thoughts I just want this nightmare to end for you for us coming soon for the whole world really |1 I would go They actually mentioned the ski resorts in that announcement about the bans today and said there are no restrictions there at the moment The biggest issue seems to be when there is a large group of people in an enclosed space for more than 15 minutes and thats not really an issue when skiing I feel like theres more danger being infected when in a city then up in the mountains|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Absolutely I work in a hospital We get properly trained and fitted for masks any old mask isnt necessarily going to cut it especially if it doesnt fit quite right For my training I had to test with 3 different ones until I found one that fit properly It needs to have a tight seal on all sides at all times and should never be reused as the outside of it would be contaminated likewise you should never touch the outside of the mask If the seal is broken leave the contaminated area remove the mask by the straps making sure not to touch it or let it hit your face dispose of it and put on a new one Im really worried for all the people out there using surgical masks and dust masks like theyre going to block a virus when in reality theyre doing absolutely nothing|0 Honestly I think Us is kinda a shitty movie|0 Go to the press perhaps Under condition of anonymity of course The company should be pressured to release them|0 Like not having a 40000 family buffet style dinner|1 Thats basically exactly what they said To paraphrase You can go to China but if you do you might be trapped there unexpectedly by new restrictionsTheyre not forbidding US citizens from going to China theyre sternly recommending against it|0 Chloroquine is actually already seeing pretty wide use its just that no one has published the kind of data that would let us be certain its actually working yet|1 I for one am grateful for anyone stepping in to fill the holes that the Trump administration has yet to fill We can discuss semantics later when we are still alive|1 Yes because shit cannot hit the fan Its fucked up|0 this is good shit|0 yes this|1 Luckily the biggest difference between real life and this game is that in real life the virus does not have a brain|1 How do you not see that this is part of an acceleration of enormous catastrophic eventsIt sounds like youre one of those people who believes the fairytale of a time of normalcy that were supposedly going to be able to return to This is going to get much worseThen something even worse is going to happen after that Nobody reading this is going to be alive in 2080|0 So here is my crack pot conspiracy theoryWhy youve seen such government inaction is because they want this to spread among the general populationThink about it seniors are considered by many as a burden on our society they use the most health care resources and put a huge strain on our public funded health care system same goes with many people with underlying health issuesWhat a better thing for a government financially then for a disease to cull the old the sick Sure there might be a bit of a cost up front from people getting sick and dying but the long term benefits of not having to care for a aging population out weight the negative I hope for the soul of mankind this isnt true But weve been shown that we have been very evil in the past|0 This is good work here call me an optimist but I think we may all be freaking out about something that basically has the lethality of the common flu A week or two will confirm this definitively but yeah it shouldnt be at all surprising that any virus could spread rapidly in a country as dense as China and given their poor healthcare infrastructure miss so many mild cases completely|0 Theres been 1 official death outside China the Philippines just reported 1 death|0 Hopefully this is just a typo|1 but i am almost 100 sure community transmission is happening nowhttpswwwtheglobeandmailcomcanadaarticlefirstcommunityspreadcoronacaseinontarioconnectedtoYou have been proven right A man with local transmission with no travel history attended a conference of 25k people in Toronto He has COVID19Schools should act now and stop classes immediately|0 Thank goodness Olympics next hopefully|1 Just say you came back from Italy If the system want to game you game the system|1 Well are we even testing at this point|1 Same here Wife and I having a good laugh She thought I set the whole thing up and I am just trying to justify my obsession Lol|1 The government responded to reports that the US made an offer But the company themselves said they didnt recieve one If I said there was a reported that your best friend killed your mother you would condemn your best friend When your mother appears and said she has infact not been murdered then it doesnt make you a liar You just condemned the report This is all fake news|1 I feel so awful about this All those truckers out of work no money coming in to feed and shelter themselves and their families and no health insurance It breaks my heart |0 Its not really racialising it its a reference to Dominic Cummings Bojos advisor who hired another racist advisor and is widely considered to be a bit of a racist himself|0 The shit show is because half of us are out of tp|0 But what you pay now is more expensive than any other countrys healthcare system while your healthcare is worse than most other developed countries|0 I did read the article I consider 57 young He was not elderlyThe fact of the matter is as far as corona is concerned you are wrong Corona death rates tick up around 4050 years old naturally this means that a 57year old is more likely to die and therefore he is not young nor elderly but still vulnerable|0 Which is fine for America but as a Canadian 20 minutes from the border seriously fuck these guys Ive loved federal and local and even private companies responses to the pandemic in Canada so far But Trudeau needs to close down the fucking US border Build the wall JT|1 Ha|1 Be careful rumor has it theres been confirmed transmission over WeChat|1 Lots of landlords own their rental house Its not cheap to maintain one though Yearly taxes repairs surprise bills having to locate tenants or paying a company to do it|1 If me and my gf go to my local cinema on a Tuesday or a Wednesday its 6 for the two of us I like this idea but theres no way Im paying triple that to rent a film to watch a film at home|0 Yeah Obama got a lot of blame for 2008 even though it was caused by things done before him|0 At this time the only strategy I see evidence for is buy time until we can bring some new tools online I already mentioned that this is specifically serological testing and clinical data on antivirals I suspect the focus now is also on ramping up production of key medical supplies and equipmentSo yeah its maybe the best strategy we have for a couple weeks Ive made my predictions about April based on everything I am trying to study about the nature of this virus I guess well see where the experts are then|1 This isnt the flu|1 Covid19 has a twoweek incubation period plus most major cities have airports and extensive transport links Given the international nature of the thing the entry points are mostly airports so most cities will be affected Zooming in a bit london definitely has a lot more cases than anywhere else though|1 I think thats great advice Stay in shape dont overdo itTo add Dont use staying at home as an excuse to eat junk food or get drunk Give your body what it needs to fight Treat your body like a valuable and irreplaceable tool to fight the demon virus Youll literally be saving lives which isnt something we get to do often Thats exciting and worth putting the best of care into Warrior spirit and all that|1 I will get drive through from Taco Bell today to support them now that I have enough toilet paper|1 Its not a cold Its not flu a or b and its not strep Theyre not sure what it is But go on and continue to be a dumbass who doesnt know what hes talking about|0 Yeah Exactly this I dont know why people do this shit just to get a rise out of peopleI got a message on Facebook a few days ago now that was from someone who I do not know They accidentally msged me a month or two because of mistaking my identity and they do not live anywhere near me BC they live in the state of Georgia The message they just sent me was a forward it looked like they were mass forwarding out video clip with still screen and an audio voicemail message of somebody saying they have inside informations and that everything is going to be completely shut downquaruntined the following weekOkay so before I sent this comment I decided to go back and listen to the voicemail to see if they said where quaruntine was supposed to be for They are talking about the US of A says their cousin works for the Pentagon P Did a quick google because I figured it makes a good clickbait news article and I found this articlehttpswwwwqadcommobilearticlenewsverifyverifynoconfirmedsourcesforviralcoronavirusquarantinevoicemail526c1d7f6a937fa4aa5bb50a856cc10dcf7 where you can hear the voicemail that got passed on to meAnyway when I had got the voicemail immediately recognized it as the usual Facebook cancer that gets passed around during any kind of big event well amongst the non stop day by day cancer that is found on Facebook and I immediately lost a little bit of hope for humanity Whats worse than the bullshit disinformation nonsense passed around on Facebook is how much of the fucking population will take it as fact share the link online and preach the nonsense to their social circle I feel like humans can defeat this thing but when I remember what kind of humans so many of us are well I start to wonder if we really can|0 I agree its every man women and child for themselves Is this guess what we pay taxes for I really expected some leadership even if wrong but nothing |0 Why does everyone keep assuming the government is incompetent Theyre enacting their plan to the letter which is prioritizing the economy over the health of their citizens|0 Yeah my job has ended partially due to corona virus and I just interviewed for a new one which involves a lot of international travel but my industry is shutting down internationally so I cant see how that job will exist in the future Certainly in the short termMight have to end up moving into my parents spare room in another country |1 Why North Korea has shown that if you just carry on your nuclear program you eventually get treated with respect|1 Its easy to not have untraceable cases if you only test for cases you can trace|1 This sounds like World Market am I right Can I even ask that Lol|1 I will likely add this as an update as its a great question and the answer is that I am NOT sure Its possible hes just on visa|1 I know it makes our immune system attacks our organs but does any autoimmune disease imply higher risk to viruses I suppose it may depend on the virus or autoimmune disorder|0 If only we had doctors announcing thisWhat Im referring specifically to Li Wenliang who could have singlehandedly prevented this entire pandemic from happening if Communists had not silenced him after he identified the first cluster of patients suffering from a novel coronavirus and tried to raise the alarm|0 Lol what a joke spanish flu is just H1N1 COVID19 is deadlier and much more contagious Oxygen therapy was barely first used in by 1917 and it wasnt even effective since they only did it manually minutes before death and definitely not on a large scale And antibiotics didnt even exist yet too deal with nosocomial infections COVID19 would have a death rate of nearly 20 in 1918 without oxygen therapy mechanical ventilators intubation and ECMO|0 Fuhhhhck Just keep the damn schools open A little Clorox will solve everything The Chinese were over reacting The Italians are panicking Were Murikans damn it We dont need no stinking science or math to guide our decisions Schools stay Open cause you knowmoney The world is run by C GRADE students We have around 200000 people running major public policy and most of them are not that bright nor are they educated or well read on the subject of PANDEMICS So we are going to get slammed because some moron cant figure out that one sick teacher with a novel virus that has an R0 of 2530 and an incubation period of 325 days means STUDENTS HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AND ARE NIE SHEDDING THE VIRUS If you are reading this you are the resistance against stupidity and this virus Social distancing NOW|0 Im positive this comment will age well|1 South Korea and Italy have been transparent and there have been fewer reports of panic in those countries than in places like Iran where the government has been hiding everything and people have been burning down the hospitals and dying of alcohol poisoning|0 That is such a shit attitude Im ok so fuck them|0 Honestly cant remember the last even before this mess I shook someones hand Not something I do in everyday life|1 its personality everyone is different once you realize this it will make you powerful|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Their case numbers released to the public were being predicted with almost 100 accuracy back in mid February httpswwwredditcomrbestofcommentsf0anoxuantimonicaccuratelypredictsthenumbersofutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshareThey literally charged and silenced the doctor who identified a new viral threat in December for spreading lies or causing public alarm or some shitIf you believe the Chinese government is being truthful about their case numbers sorry but you are nave|0 Not the group of 1000 that decided to throw such a big party to celebrate their school closing that the riot police had to be calledNot the group that continually says Boomer disease like thousands if not 10s of thousands of deaths are no big deal because they believe mistakenly with the reports coming out of Italy that they are not at risk for this disease They dont care that they can be carriers and infect high risk people like my two kids who have type one diabetes and are high riskNot the people who believe they are OWED everything free this free that |1 Meanwhile in USA Lets pray the disease away|1 I just think its a really good indicator of when things are getting really badLike when certain stocks plummet its just reaffirming this is as serious as we all thought|1 They quarantined more people because everything is getting better and its a great way to educate people about the virus with first hand experiences|1 Because government makes the rules Rules for thee not for me Its like the spam act or maybe it was Robocall laws that exempt political messages Par for the course unfortunately|0 About 80 of China is back working now the biggest problem is that most airfreight is carried on passenger aircraft and huge numbers of passenger services have been cancelled Forwarders are quoting 46 weeks to ship stuff from China to the US at which point you might as well put it on a boat Offering to pay absurd amounts of money doesnt work because they dont have enough capacity to support even the stuff they are already contracted to doAnd every time another country suspends flights the logistics gets even harder|1 That is the time On the other side of the pond the UK has 10k troops prepping to deploy now They estimate 8k effective rate and a 2k troop loss from infection|1 Couldnt have said it better myself The notion that were going to only focus on the ones who will already be getting admitted is beyond asinine|1 Might as well die as they lived damning themselves|0 Sometimes thats good enough lol|1 No one wants to talk about making and reusing cloth masks after dis infection|0 You elect idiots you cant expect anything better|0 Im the one deleting all of the mask threads Well see what the other mods think but Ill allow this for now It needs to be mentioned though that these things are far more practical to buy between outbreaks The entire reason its a source of panic to talk about masks how weve seen is that prices jack up and they sell out making them inaccessible to people who actually acutely need them This is already a problem in this outbreak|0 Pffft here in the US they told me to get fucked lol|0 No no We exist|0 Yeah its gonna suck more for some than others I work from home now but i know a lot of people do not have the option Good lick|1 My take The end of globalization as defined 3 comments above will happen when automation takes over when AI and machinery become more advanced and costefficient than a human laborer But its gonna come with its own set of issues looking at the Mouse Utopia experiment|1 Wait really Whats happened so far Because thats my fear|0 IDK not in the medical field myself just explaining what the WHO is telling us Theyre the experts they have to know what theyre doing|0 i would think the president would have the final authority on what he does|1 Apparently people start feeling better think they are better before they feel worse again so that could have something to do with people saying its not so bad Also it is mild in a lot of cases it is also horrible and debilitating in a lot of mild cases mild meaning doesnt need hospital intervention so you dont really want to get something that will have you laid up in bed for a couple of weeks with pneumonia You just dont know how you personally will respond to it There have been cases of otherwise young health people getting it really badly to the point they require intubationhospital careAlso 20 of people do need hospital to get better So if a lot of people get infected overall then 20 of say 60 of the country is a LOT of people needing hospital to survive So the hospitals get swamped and then other people will start dying of other things too because there will be no space or resources to treat them Have a car crash You might not get the help you need and might die due to something otherwise survivable etc Your parents or grandparents or friend who has underlying conditions might be in the 20 who needs hospital and who dies from it etc How would you feel if you had passed it on to them just because you werent that concerned about it because its most likely going to be mild for youWe are all part of a community we shouldnt be selfish and just consider ourselves and our own prognosis in this situation We should look out for others by looking out for ourselves and if we do that then we are double looking out for ourselves because in the event we do need hospital for some other reason in the next couple of months we are more likely to get treatment and not be left to die because the health system is collapsing|0 Good lets just have many gatherings of 49 instead That will solve things|1 Based on what Ive read it will get far worse for the next 2 weeks and then will level off somewhere around the end of the month with a dramatic slow down Hopefully we slow this thing down enough so we can get a vaccine out hopefully by this time next year|1 I even had one tell me that I must get a ethnic Chinese bride for racial purity when I told him Ive been living mostly in the US for a few years while only visiting SG a month or two every yeari mean Singapore de facto is a Chinese state so thats not too surprising|0 Didnt swine flu have a 05 fatality rate across all age groups compared to covid19 wich apparently has 0204 for thos under 50Strange how these viruses work|0 Brilliant|1 Which also aligns with the reports of some of the young and otherwise healthy doctors on the front lines eventually dying of the disease|1 No problems in shanghai Essential work is still carried out|0 Bovine coronavirus is among the more common respiratory illnesses in cattle Curiously the other most common cattle respiratory virus bovine influenza D virus was only recently discovered in 2011|0 Doesnt look like|0 Yeah I know Was just hoping beyond that he may have got out Just goes to prove we gain more from listening to each other than those cretins that call themselves leaders these days|1 Make sure you warn them that if there are family loses their lies will be remembered That is not a choice|0 Whens the last time you were hospitalized for a flu Does china shut down its cities just for a flu Italy etc|0 It is probably true In Texas officials have been telling doctors they dont need to test COVID19 Some has stopped seeing flulike patients completely and sending them to ERI fail to understand how after seeing China wrestled with this for 3 months now somehow US is still not prepared All I can think of is pure arrogance the attitude that we know better China is just stupid we can fix it in a snap|0 Turned down because trump didnt want the numbers to make him look bad |0 By accusing me of assuming too much I dont think Im the one making assumptions here|0 Not good news if its damaging the kids lungs asymptomatically for now|0 I know that this It aint nothin important laissezfaire attitude is going to tip into panic soon enough Went to Sams Club this morning to get supplies meat frozen veggies so that I can just not leave the house for the next month or so and while the toilet paper was gone everyone was still taking food samples from communal plates like there wasnt any concernDid have a funny moment when a woman I was talking to in the garden section suddenly clocked that I was Asian and literally ran away though|1 I work in a ups warehouse I highly doubt we shut down They havent even mentioned the virus to the workers its business as usual in there Only way we shut down is if all the other businesses stop shipping stuff|0 Youre crazy until youre not you did right|0 from California too embarrassing|0 Youd be far better off in Sweden because you know social democracy with all that public healthcare and welfare safety nets the Worlds supposed superpower not only lacks but opposes|1 What brainwashing made you think preparing for the biggest disaster since WWII was a bad idea|0 Classic partisan politics only hugging half We need some bipartisan politics here|1 That is not favorable for Europe lots of Type A httpsenwikipediaorgwikiBloodtypedistributionbycountrymediaFileMapofbloodgroupagifhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBloodtypedistributionbycountrymediaFileMapofbloodgroupagif|0 probably because govt didnt prepare supply Could have nationalized some factory to pump out millions by nowDue to lack of supply they are trying to reserve masks only for doctorsnurses because of low supply|0 httpswwwfolkhalsomyndighetensethepublichealthagencyofswedencommunicablediseasecontrolcovid19Swedish Public Health Agency claims that from what they know only an ill person is contagiousExperience to date tells us that the virus is transmitted when a person falls ill and during the period of their illness This means that it is important that people at risk of being infected look out for early symptomsIve read it from other sources as well but this is the most reliable one I could find for now They have a close contact with WHO the EU and other countriess corresponding agencies|0 If you cant get immunity then we are probably all fucked tbh|0 I dont think any Western government wouldve arrested a doctor who raised alarm about a novel virus spreading amongst the populace|0 Ive noticed this too go to any post and sort by controversial peoples comment are either downvoted or removed if they tell China to go fuck themselves and theres comments praising China saying that China gave the west 2 extra months and the west threw it away and how we should be thanking them|0 Yeah I was tempted to try to convince a coworker to cancel her trip to Italy but I held my tongue thinking shes an adult she can figure it out And she did cancel without my nagging about a week or so ago Mind you I trusted her as a person of sound judgement|1 Hopeless|0 Not that extreme but they dont like testing people here|0 Translation is incorrecthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf1qq5qreporterchinesenationalhealthcommissionhasfh7slkb what the fuck This guy literally is fooling everyone who cannot read Chinese The original text reads if a carrier without symptoms observes symptoms then he or she should be immediately classified as confirmed case he is literally suggesting an opposite translation|0 Welcome to Serfdom |1 Its so trump can campaign on i cut taxes|0 What radar They shut that shit off|0 Better than youd be in many other countriesAt least western countries HAVE safety netsIf youre in Phillipines Afghanistan etc youre fucked|1 Ok but China officially says there are nearly 200K under observation and nearly 500K traced close contacts who havent been tested So they have shared several numbers that can serve as an estimate of the real infected amountThese seem like reasonable numbers to me|1 Testing is no longer a issue once you turn the whole country into a massive prison camp|0 I wouldnt be surprised if thats the exact one The ones from SARs were also similar to school portable buildings Theyre only building temporary hospitals|0 My the world be safe We have lasted for like 4 billions years till this stage httpsdailycoronaviruscomhttpsdailycoronaviruscom|1 Exactly Yesterday I was at a hardware store buying masks and goggles and I have two employees laughing at me I didnt give a single fuck I hope Im wrong about all of this But if this thing gets bad here Ill be protected|1 Thats bad for the boat|0 A couple of weeks ago I ordered a bunch of dehydrated camping food from REI as part of my familys prep for the pandemic If we need it weve got it and if not well take it camping|0 Good point|1 lol that guy is so out of tune no worse than the fluis there people that still believe this|0 Terminally ill people travel all the time in fact its one of the most common times to do so in ones life|0 Its very different in China CCP has been strongly pushing tcm and very much allowing clinical trials But from what I understand nothing has given good results yet But they are still allowing ridiculous clinical trials during the coronavirus outbreak They allowed many trails mixing tcmsoy milkeven a special workout thingy and proper approved drugs making the results unusable in all fronts and used up the valuable early patient poolAnd you dont get to make massive used injection and IV drug without authority support Even though its very much against the tradition tcm usage Tcm was supposed to be consumed orally and each person should be seen by a doctor individually and receive personalized prescription But during the outbreak people were handed mass produced medicine soup Thats just not how any of these supposed to work|1 How much you want to bet the Europe travel ban was a kneejerk reaction to Trump finding out his test was positive|1 Yes but until then Im not panicking That source is also unverified|1 Nope I was working from home with 2 small kids I created a spreadsheet and did some simple math based off the numbers in the linked article|1 Happy Cake Day Strazdas1 The only dare you ever want to take is the dare to be all that you can be|1 Weeks you say I recon days really This is going to get real Bad real fast itll make us all wish for the good old days of worrying about brexit|0 Its a 50 billion dollar lossThat was their smoking replacement product for traditional cigarette losses|0 Guys a fucking depopulation UN agent Fuck him this is exactly what he wants hell be getting that vaccine ready soon enough dont you worry|0 I dont mean this in an insulting way to Americans but its kind of weird that patriotism is deemed to be so important in the US or thats how it appears from the outside but as soon as anything bad comes up everyone becomes as selfish as possible and does whats best for themselves not their country|0 Its like that movie Wanted but with peoples lives|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Supposedly that is what the CDC has been working on If these claims are even close to true it is already superior to any known testing for this Ive read about so it would be damn near criminal to not adopt it So youre likely correct|0 Ive been dividing current deaths by cases 14 days ago on my own spreadsheets And no I didnt submit it to the Lancet because its a totally amateur way of doing things There are plenty of better modeling tools out thereThat said 3 months of data from Wuhan shows todays CFR CFR from 7 days ago and 14 days ago to be similar at almost 5|1 I think mask have to help because if cancer patience ware them to help avoid germs then shouldnt it be helpful to us |0 Am in Dallas Feeling very suspicious about the lack of cases here Just think theyre probably not testing|0 Not yet they literally said they dont want to share that information httpswwwstalbansreviewcouknews18271937coronavirusstatementcouncilconfirmedcasehertfordshirehttpswwwstalbansreviewcouknews18271937coronavirusstatementcouncilconfirmedcasehertfordshire nothing special really|0 In your expert opinion kindly explain what pneumonia is thenI personally was only diagnosed with mild pneumonia last year So i kinda have first hand experience how it feels likeAlso how does a strain on the healthcare system affect everyday life when for a majority of people life is as usual|1 Those elderly who have chronic diseases are the most vulnerable to the coronavirus Having a good immunity system might be beneficial to the body after infection|1 They are being tested when they have no symptoms Yet people who have symptoms are denied testing This is so wrong|0 Good job OP|1 If sauna happens to be dehydrating could be via that mechanismDehydration triggers ecdysonemediated recognitionprotein priming and elevated antibacterial immune responses inDrosophilaMalpighian tubule renal cellshttpsbmcbiolbiomedcentralcomarticles101186s1291501805325Im well aware that its not in humans but there are hints that it could also be the case with this preprint Osmolality controls the expression of cathelicidin antimicrobial peptide in human macrophageshttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent101101332635v1full|1 Thanks Great info for us Canadians|1 What do you specifically mean by lose state benefits I used to work for the government and even my colleagues said that if I dont vote for ruling party I will not get my bonuses Voted for opposition still got all my bonuses and I did not lose out on my GST voucher even got a good score for my yearly performance review Its crazy how ingrained this thought is Your vote is secret|0 Yeah Its a protective measure for the staff I agree that testing would be better but if not testing keeps our healthcare workers in place to combat this it might be slightly better Were in uncharted territory here and without enough equipment to safely navigate it Manpower is precious|1 Please do not spread misinformation|1 Were talking Spanish flu here Saw some quiet sincere epidemiologist who said the Spanish flu broke out one fall backed off the summer and came back with a vengeance the next cool season My fathers father died the second time around he had lungs compromised by working in bakeries for a couple of decades|0 I am not familiar with US health services do you have to pay for that ER visit|0 Rather live in S Korea right now tbh It feels like their leadership took this seriously and handled this the most efficiently China had to endure a lot of cases for their government to take this seriously|1 I think that everyone should attend his MaGa Rallies even if you dont feel well Also who wouldnt love to have their picture taken with the President of the United States of America|0 Theyre also the hotbed that will stretch the coronavirus out to all households Once it reaches a school gameover My schools students interact with their whole grade 100 students in a single day Childcare crisis vs everyone actually being 100 exposed|0 Yes LMAO I learned that because I had to file about 14 years ago They lure you in with a free consultation and then tell you how much it will cost to do the paperwork classes to help you learn finances and court fees I filed and then waited maybe three or four months for a court date Then at the six month mark the bankruptcy was done But it doesnt leave your credit report for 710 years You still get credit cards and you can still improve your credit since it gets updated every 30 days I hope this helps It does stop creditors immediately But now and days it will not get rid of student loans like it did in the past maybe 20 or so years ago and that is a bummer but medical bills are wiped out Which they should be because the bills themselves will literally wipe a person out financially|1 Really youre happy this strategy may kill a quarter million more than WHO recommendations|0 I dont have a solution Im just pointing out a really bad idea|0 Yeah I tried to tell friends and family what to do when it became clear this was bad and it would blow up here too Almost no one took even basic action though Now Im just trying to save my house from it Hopefully itll work its way through the population soon enough that we will be able to wait it out|1 Yeah i know mate Derriford Hospital is going to be interesting to say the least |1 There was this expose of wuhan in chinese national paper a couple days that showed the majority of people dying before being checked because hospitals are overloaded Out of 10 families of over 40 people only two were even admitted into hospital and at the time of reporting one of them died before being tested another one was still aliveNo im talking about the flight from Beijin to France where they were evacuating european nationals|0 Obviously you didnt since you could quickly check that those sectors employ less than 10 of the population and there is no scenario where this virus would even knock out 0 of the population simultaneously|0 If you get the Coronavirus since there is no treatment what do doctors do to try to get rid of it|0 It covers their mouth nose and eyes Its actually a really good idea as long as theyre pairing it with good handwashing practices|1 Solid predictions brother I fear most of these will come true despite how wacky they sound Wackier things have happened throughout history|1 Great advise If at Costco also consider a big bag of flour 25 lbs for under 10 and the big pack of yeast for 5 Flour will keep for a year Yeast will keep for years in the freezer Just add some water and salt and you have great fresh bread for months It will be something fun to do if you are stuck at home Great shelf stable things to eat with the bread are peanut butter jelly canned tuna canned chicken spam or even just toasted with some olive oil and garlic|1 Agile doesnt seem like the right word hereSmall companies are agile large ones arentSmall companies are less diversified small companies are less likely to have a rainy day fund My last company with about 60 people was the definition of agile We weathered the great recession with no notice except that we were working on projects for different clients that wed had to go out and find when out huge regular clients struggled The business we find was almost entirely from other small agile companies that could rapidly shift gears|0 Unfortunately I think what enables this is the lack of sick paid leave in America|0 Yes Lets hope it contains it there|1 Anyone want to explain the logic of doing thisApplies to most activities of humanity|1 Doctor reporting its a lot worse than the flu stop comparing it to the flu|0 Unlike a lot of New test might be possible never posts this one actually can be used immediately Theyre essentially tailoring the currently used RTPCR test to their automated platforms which have much faster throughput and are currently in operation in certified diagnostic labs across the country In my opinion now that the US blew the opportunity to get on top of the first wave the US government should be focusing on scaling up for surveillancelevel monitoring for the fallwinter season which will likely see a resurgence stronger than the first outbreak were experiencing now Unless we want to sit in our homes from October to April again we need close to real time monitoring within our population This will take a different approach than the swab sample pcr diagnostic we are doing now Maybe routine pooled screening where we combine samples from hundreds or more people from a given location It might even be possible to sample air in crowded locations by capturing HEPA filtrate and running the PCR on that|1 Before I always thought Taiwan was a good example but today I read a news saying Taiwan is not doing a massive test even not testing all the close contacts|1 Lol one doctor in a billion plus people country|1 I want my salad days back|1 Interleukin 6 was discovered to be one of the possible immune system selfattack triggering factors So a drug called Tocilizumab has been tested|1 Youre replying to the wrong person|0 Is social distancing basically impossible And is Amazon offering any sort of paid leave for workers displaying symptoms or those affected by child care issues|1 It does not have 100 infected|1 Lol wutWhy did you assume I think the US is going to do better I dont hate China I love China China is where many great things and ideas come from and has fantastic people and traditional culture The CCP is crap though|1 The vast vast majority of people do not believe that I would say its such a small percentage that do that its not worth thinking about because on every topic you will find someone who holds an extreme view on one end or the other The propagandists use those positions as a way to pain all people of their opposition as holding those extreme views to discredit them Dont help them|0 Eye protection needed it can travel through the eyes Make sure your mask is more than a surgical mask N95 Surgical masks only protect others if you are sick it doesnt protect you|1 I should clarify just as bad with how they are handling and communicating on this specific issue of the coronavirus virus not overall as you mentioned|0 The people that govern this country only care about money|1 Yes absolutely but its not quite right to say that to stand against Trump is to stand with the American people You stand with only half to 23 of the American people|1 TIL Thank you|1 Wait he didnt say WHERE he lived in Toronto Depending on the neighbour or neighbourhood this might not be acceptable We need more info|0 Profits Public Safety for them|1 Good advicePersonally I did actually manage to order a family pack beginning of February People thought I was crazy|1 I love every companies different approachesFrom what I understand this is a fucking airborne virus rightTheres some companies that are claiming they are doing something but are still open Theyre preventing just physical contact as much as possible|1 So uhh Im building a PC soon will this affect me ffs all I wanna do is play PC games while the world goes to shit|0 Lmao I love how people can make trump jokes left and right But anytime someone is making a joke about anything else theyre comments are removed and theyre mass dislikedSmheither treat everyone fairly or refrain people from making stupid trump jokes Im here for educational information regarding the virus not lowhanging fruit jokes|1 Oh fuck a realistic timeline JFC they are still spoon feeding Europe best I can tell|1 dont worry though Im sure denying the problem will protect the stock market|1 It reminds me on how the US and USSR when one was experiencing a crisis the rival superpower would wish the other the best of luck One moment they were threatening the other complete nuclear annihilation the next moment the USSR is sending millions of dollars to the US to help with damages after a disaster and the US is returning the favor when the USSR experience a disaster|0 Followup question has anyone ever gotten explanations for these videosAre these people collapsing dead or just fainting Do they get resuscitated by medical workers Are these people who already knew they are sick or does it hit them like a surprise Is it common or extremely rare|0 Interesting thanks|1 Yea the aspect I was impressed by Chinese response to this was that they probably know the economic impact of locking down a whole city already and they still did it|1 He is in his 50s and no preexisting conditions Very healthy before coronavirus|1 Lets hope that this is followed if it DOES become necessaryOr else well go from SK to Italy in a week|1 Too late no doubt but better we do this than wait even longer|1 Im sure quite a few people make their living based off of this event so people are probably afraid they will go out of business|1 Are you talking about in general or for making masks They dont build by hand because using robots for most tasks has become faster and more dependable|0 Im sure thatll be the very last one anywhere too|1 Im sorry but you should be protecting her from some of these harsh realities and helping her to focus on the positive Millions of people live in horrible conditions and lose everything in many situations from famine to flood to disease Stop praying she can find a way to survive and actually get some advice on parenting in the harshest of situations|0 taiwan number one unironically they learned the lessons of SARS and were thankfully in a sort of visitor quarantine by china when covid19 arrived lovely people and culture unjustly treated by the international community desperate to not displease the ccp|1 Do you by chance have room for a third You wont even notice Im there Love you scared american|1 Why shouldnt they pay They could pay 10x as much and there is no flight to take them out So having an option to get out is way better If I were in that situation I would happily pay|1 most alcohol is too weak such as vodka whisky etc at just 40 percent|0 You do realize not everyone is in the USA right In live in a developed country nothing will happen So much fear mongering going on Its insane|0 Oh no no no My state is not closing schools yet|0 People arent going to read as much about something that isnt scary|1 The flu or pneumonia and other respiratory issues|0 See in autumn dudes Im going to relax for a few months|1 You have to test positive for covid19 to get it|1 The health officials saying to not wear masks arent totally wrong Very few average people are going to gain any benefit from a mask as theyre not going to take proper precautions to prevent viral spread As soon as you touch your face you may as well not of worn the mask same if you adjust it because you didnt get it sized correctly If youre sick then you really shouldnt be going out anyways What it does effectively do is remove supply for the health care providers who will need them as this outbreak gets worse and worse|1 Good luck from the US Were going to be in a very similar situation soon|1 Another NY Post article cited that the high school was James Madison but its by NY Post so I am not sure if its too credible|0 As a wise man once said every dollar counts even to someone who doesnt need it|1 I saw it on another forum and think its kinda important|1 I do feel like education staff including all admin cleaners caretakers teachers dinner staff all of us have been massively overlooked here Almost like its great that kids arent as vulnerable so well try and keep them away from adults and society by keeping schools open But who is it that has to spend 8 hours a day in those same classrooms and buildings that only get cleaned at 5 oclock once all the kids are long gone We barely get a chance to go to the loo during the day let alone wash our hands every time we try and grab a quick coffee fix or a few biscuits from our secret stash in our desk yes we all have one|1 Hes downvoted because hes speaking based from nothing Stop with the Dont know why this is downvoted bait|1 Thanksgiving is an extreme example Ill admit But youre still cramped up in there with your kids your spouse and lets be honest we all dont spend that much time around each other tempers will flare All Im saying Especially in NYC and the surrounding environs Were built on stress here|0 Its not meant to total 100 Its death rates among infected people Its 148 of the people over age 80 who contract the virus and 8 of people aged 7080 who contract the virus|0 I have sensitive stomach so try to avoid those if possible|0 Good sign of whats coming up when they are facing such problem while outbreak still havent hit yet|1 Bots probably That sub is completely controlled and censored Even basic informationEDIT Also i just got an advertisement on the top of my home page saying essentially join rcoronavirus to stay safe and informed I had previously unsubbed from them a couple of weeks ago due to the level of post censorship Interesting they are directing people there being that sub is one of the most heavily censored I have ever come across on reddit and essentially a source of misinformation at this pointAlso it is 1 on the trending subs sidebar|1 Youve diagnosed the problem in your first sentence and then for some reason keep applying social pressure instead of attacking the root cause If people took that day off every time your employer would be forced to finally hire an adequate number of people Youre getting ripped off collectively of your health|0 Right that is what businesses do They dont just give out their product for free to keep idiots like you happy|1 Probably not a good idea to hurt your immune system with heavy boozing in that scenario|0 This site does indeed show two major strain branches One dominant in Italy and one in SK I am curious if the Drs consider these the same or nothttpsnextstrainorgncovbranchLabelcladecgtORF884lradialhttpsnextstrainorgncovbranchLabelcladecgtORF884lradial|1 I know three people in the area DC that picked up a stomach bug this week and have been sick the last 24 hours There are lots of viruses going around right now Stay home rest make sure you get fluids|0 I didnt say dont prepare I just meant dont contribute to the hysteria Buying cart loads of toilet paper and hand sanitizer is probably pointless|1 we dont know yet if our higher cfr is due to a shortage of icus apparently not but surely considering our infection cluster is very thick and mainly located in lombardy optimal treatment is probably not longer possible for several patient there have been reports of people left to die but everyone denied it for nowwe dont know yet if our infected population is more at risk than the korean onefinally korea has long reached the flex point of their curve they pretty much reached the apex already and this shows their epidemic is a magnitute smaller than oursthe koreans proactively tested throught all this time we stopped long time ago insteadwell see i think in the end our numbers should be pretty similar to those reached in china both for the absolute ones and percentages and even in china a lot of people went undetectedI hereby think the final mortality rate should be around 1 for pretty much everyone once mass sierological testing will be available|0 Wonder if hell start by saying hes tested positive|0 Those numbers are horrifying I cant imagine being in Italy right now|0 Absolutely insane If I went Id expect to catch it|0 Which is leads me to why have food stamps if kids are eating at school rant i know the game|0 I dont understand So you think people need to be more angry to the government than the cult for stopping virus Your logic is unbelievable|0 Thank you|1 As a wa resident in Snohomish county who works in king county Id like to say that inslee has done a good job so far in my humble opinion He has been informative clear in his messaging non alarmist and most importantly decisive as needed Having grown up in NY and having risk aged family there and in Florida along with seeing how its being handled everywhere else further supports my appreciation for inslee Id barely payed any attn to local politics before this I will definitely be doing so much more afterward|1 I have an anxiety disorder Anxiety and persistent worry can lower the effectiveness of your immune system Good sleep and meditation are good to add to 2019nCoV prep|0 As a DC resident Im very concerned they still let your plane in land in Dulles Not because of you specifically but what about everyone else on your flight Does this mean other planes from China are landing there too More importantly has the government been lying about planes being routed to one of the seven airports Dulles was definitely not on the government list This whole thing is bizarre Thanks for sharing hope you can enjoy the ministaycation and that you dont get sick|1 I live in an epidemic zone and I would like to add what they are saying here stay home AND call your medical provider for directions|1 wow na is embarrassingly behind great againFixed that for yousSeriously though It wouldnt take a small team more than a few hours to ship this kind of functionality into Facebook Likewise independent app developers could also do a dedicated application if the data was made available|1 And by doing that you are contributing to emptying the shelves Its self fulfilling prophecy|0 It will be OK friend you are lucky as you are informed Not everyone is that lucky or they choose not to study for themselvesIf you are neurotic about washing your hands and not touching face avoiding people keeping track of every surface that gets touched you should be OK|1 School Shooters are Terrorists|0 CDCs getting marching orders come from a man who earlier today said its not that bad it will just go away its his job to shake hands so hes not going to stopHe also asked if dropping a nuke into last summers Hurricane Dorian would disperse itI cant tell which statement is the craziest anymore|1 They found a way to lower future social security and medicare cost|1 2nd one just died|0 Humans are scary Engineers even more Natural selection calls for you and all it gets back is big fat middle finger God speed|1 The cruise ships are a fairly good indicator that the R0 is on the high side|1 Yeah sure it would be better than nothing Just think how nervous Id be if it was me going in there Really have to think of all the frontline workers|1 because US has repeatedly and consistently defunded the legal system to the point where most public attorneys get less than an hour with thier clients before a trial Many people plea guilty because its cheaper than a lawyer|0 They are on their way to pick up the patient no need to disinfect anything yet|0 I work for a furniture manufacturer We got an email this morning that Amazon has stopped ordering our products until midApril because we dont make household staples or medical supplies|0 In pandemic regardless most certainly|1 And yet 58 people were tested in less than 2 hours yesterday at the Jazz game Its like the test kits are out there but access to them is limited|0 I think it looks great also but I dont know if we would be able to source a million of those parts it uses We need something even simpler|1 Maybe read your article it doesnt say that the people infected in wave 1 were more at risk because of the immune response it says the people who were killed off died because their immune system over reactedIf you were infected in wave 1 wave 2 wouldnt even bother you as you were immuneBut if you werent touched by wave 1 wave 2 would likely kill you|0 I wish my GP did phone appointments I moved from a city to the countryside and it really is like going back in time|1 And ruin your stockpile of tests before you actually really need it|0 I will be messaging you in 4 days on 20200307 044121 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003072004412120UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfc55trhowa200000spectatorparadeinphiladelphialedfj8wdpocontext37 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ffc55tr2Fhowa200000spectatorparadeinphiladelphialed2Ffj8wdpo2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030720043A413A2120UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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countries understand the nature of this virus|1 more like thishttpsd12qk6n9ersps4cloudfrontnet1221570mediumcleanjpg|1 Many large amounts of harm are basically irreparable harm The economy grows exponentially so if there is a big hit or problem that would otherwise be averted there is an opportunity cost in the lack of growth and that would probably never be caught up to since the growth is compounding Thats how I see it anyway of course there are caveats|0 Look Im not disagreeing but sometimes you have to look at the numbers and numb yourself to asses the true damageWith over 7 billion people die every second1250000 people die a year from car crashes but we dont ban them we could provide alternative services to cars that would be safer but we have to access the cost80000 die from the normal flu yearly This goes as high as 650000 some years equivalent to nearly 1800 deaths DAILYEvery one of these digits are a soul yes but we still let it happen We could force masks to reduce the number but simply put 80000 death per year globally isnt worth doing this But I dont understand blowing 200 deaths up as much as people are for nowIf it maintains 2 yes this will be terribleBut as of now its simply a media hypeIf anyone can link me honest proof that this worst than the regular flu at this point fine we are all in troubleBut that isnt going to happen because currently the posted stats are notThe death rate is inflated at the beginning that makes sense we need to learn how bad it is and what level of risk we are at|0 When compared to South Korea we arent as rich organized educated and informed as South Korea|0 Not dissimilar then how about saying similar Because they dont want people to immediately dismiss this to be similar to the fluYoud be surprised how much people skim while reading articles|1 And he makes no mention of the official WHO mortality rates the disease pathology already strained NHS capacity and the rate of hospitalisation we have been seeing globally with Covid19 casesAll of the following are based on official WHO figures re Covid19 Pathology and publicly available statistics on UK healthcare capacity Sources at footerCurrent Official Stats WHORegional Govts 37 Case mortality rate 14032020 80 of all cases Pneumonic Varies by geography Italy far worse 20 Requiring hospitalisation 5 Requiring ICU Care Stay in hospital per case 27 to 38 daysNHS Capacity of population Total Hospital Beds 024 ICU Beds 0006 included in total Private Hospital Beds 0009Outcomes Across UK Population at 80 Infection Rate Death 1630000 16 Million Cases of mild to severe Pneumonia 43500000 435 Million Severe Cases Requiring Hospitalisation 10880000 9 1088 Million Critical Cases Requiring Hospitalisation 2720000 27 MillionOverflow of Cases NHS Capacity of 024 Cases at high risk of death once NHS capacity is reached 106 Million Total estimated deaths once NHS capacity is reached 2 to 10 MillionSources Worldomoters Coronavirushttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus WHO Report as PDFhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf WHO Press Conference on Same Reporthttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo0q1XMRKYM Notes on Covid19 PathologyhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920300864fulltext|0 I put a sign and ask the driver to leave my stuff by the door httpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfej64zdeliverynoticeprintoffandattachittoyourhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfej64zdeliverynoticeprintoffandattachittoyour|0 It used to be the older conservatives who hated them glorified the preceding Greatest GenerationAnd later this will move to GenX They just want to conserve the culture they grew up with|1 I refuse to believe you because I have stereotypes originated years ago and will continue to believe them s|0 This virus will continue to spread until at least 70 of people have immunity which is acquired individually either through previous infection or through a vaccine If it mutates we start back from 0 So yeah you will likely get it|1 Giving the general public locally and internationally the impression that everything is under control because cases are declining|1 Hi Mr GatesIn your opinion after this pandemic comes to a close however long that may be what should be the first step we as a global community take so that we are better prepared for the next pandemic|1 I agree following developments is perfectly OK however try to stick to reliable sources I found that limiting my time on how frequently I checked up on updates has helped me cope better|1 That I do remember I believe the command were all fired for it too|0 Youre smart Dont listen to anyone else its your responsibility to look after your family No one in the government will care if your family suffers due to their poor decisions|0 Its called normalcy bias and it kills|0 Agreed 1000 its not 1918 how anyone thought a highly transferable pathogen wouldnt land on our doors is beyond reason|1 Enough of these preventative measures and we get back to normal much sooner These are good practical moves not a harbinger of doom|1 I dont see how thats the case The early spikes in the SARS data arent from a higher infection rate theyre from unknown cases being identified and deaths being attributed to SARS after the fact Putting that part of the data in line with this data from the 2019nCoV mostly messes with peoples ability to make fairly accurate assumptions on the actual growth of cases over time|1 Thanks man Sorry for whinging about it Still too fresh on the mind haha|1 They blocked Iranians from entering and instantly started checking temperatures of anyone going through the airport The preparation was due to fear of an incident like the SARS scare back in the early 2000s|0 I got an email from my school board in Ottawa a couple of days ago actually Outlying the same things the health authorities have been and saying that theres no current plan to close schools not surprising since Ottawa is still sitting at 0 cases Still at least it was communication|0 Ah that occurred to me but they have infections and their own plans toSo wasnt sure if it was that or we had 2 states still denying theres a problem|0 Im so sorry|0 I suspect CoVid is a mutation of SARSWell it is in the proper name|0 And yet the Irish government let 10 20 thousand Italian fans into Dublin for the postponed rugby match untested Surely there is going to be a massive spike in cases in Ireland in the next couple of weeks The following day large areas of Italy put into quarantine |1 Source This sounds like bullshit|0 well they have to have their days off too|1 well doesnt that mean that we shouldnt be telling people to stay in unless they are high risk as in if youre low risk go out and hurry up the spread so that we can rush towards herd immunity for the more vulnerable|0 So do you save one old person or five healthier individuals for the better chance of survival|1 This is what exponential growth looks like especially when action isnt taken quickly|1 Thanks for this I live in UK and we already had a few communitytransmitted casesWe fear it has already spread and our government is full of imbeciles so they will never lock the UK down unless there is an impressive number of deaths|1 I do this everyday hoping there isnt a case in Connecticut lmao|1 Sounds like Florida to me|1 Good News Wealthy people can throw money at problems poor people can go fuck themselves|0 Thanks|1 A normal mask will reduce some inhalationexpelling of particles but not enough to provide total protection Anything is better than nothing Asian countries have urged people to wear bandanas if they cannot get a proper mask N95s are needed most by medical professionals right now but I do not judge anyone who wears one as you never know who is on chemo or immunocompromised|1 Haha best commentshave poor mans gold my friend |1 Yeah great how our government bureaucracy has been replaced by thousands of corporate bureaucratic hierarchies completely unregulated and unaccountable to voters Fantastic that the government is completely unequipped to handle a health crisis and instead a mob of fiduciary interests are in charge their primary goal of course to please their shareholders Perfect that were giving handouts to industries with zero demand and about to cut food stamps right as we enter an economic depression Im sure waiting in breadlines at Walmart will be far more pleasurable than at some government soup kitchen brand loyalty and all that Small government sounds great when youre in a bull market reading Ayn Rand novels about how CEOs are all demigods and not the disorganized disloyal tyrannical bunch of backstabbing shortterm thinking greedy corporate bureaucrats producing absolutely nothing of value they are and have always been|1 He isnt They pressed charges asking for 3 months Therell be a trial|1 theyre telling us not to panic buy I didnt lol I got my shit Wednesday Ive been reading up on Italy all week this is going to be a disaster|0 SOX compliance is fun|1 NY is trying but its unavoidable unless we change our ways people give zero fucks wont even I convince themselves and stay home|0 Thats a huge part of Bernies platform though challenging the plutocratic system that currently exists Nothing will get better if you dont try |1 The local government is part of the CCP Stop pretending it isnt Its their system that placed these individuals of power here in the first place their lack of transparency and social hierarchy that creates disconnects between themselves the public and the head honcho back in Beijing|0 Instead of containment of fear for a lot of people it does one or both of the following Decreases trust in the organization from an ethicsintegrityhonesty standpoint as well as a scientific authority standpoint Causes more fear because it gives an impression of attempting to downplay a very bad situation that they have quite a lot of information aboutAlmost as if they have big pressure from interest groups and stakeholders involved that are looking at it from an economic dollars lost standpoint|0 I mean Seems like the mom probably has Corona too if the dad died from it and she was caring for him|1 Except people will probably still not give a fuck and go out anyhow|1 Im just saying that I dont think people should be buying the limited supply of respirators|0 Masks are good but they are also crucial especially if its a surgical mask for healthcares staffs in their efforts to cure patients both Covid19 and other diseases So please dont go panic buy them and cause a shortage for hospital For normal people cloth masks are also working ok in stopping droplets going out from you washable which mean reuse and they can be hand made too Trying to find or make your own So its better for most people to use them insteadAlso masks are good for preventing spreading the virus to other people but not as effective in preventing getting virus from others especially if you dont handle them properly ie not washing your hand immediately after remove them So please be careful when you are using mask that you are using them properly|1 No I dont think they could Im not sure what they can and cant do They can definitely close schools and stop public events etc if they want to|0 lolactually its so f sad you cant do anything but laf|0 Definitely dont hang anything on this virus haha I know how you feel Just wanted to give you a reality check on something thats easy to miss|1 What would you say is a good news source|1 Were so lucky to have Trudeau and not the Cons in power Otherwise well be praying it away and cutting healthcare like theyre doing in Alberta and still refusing to close schools or do anything with increased funding So lucky were doing things based on advice from actual health experts and doctors instead of ideology which was what they did in Italy and states and screwed them so bad by making decisions for political points instead of actual evidence based decision making from experts|1 A friend of a friend traveled home to PBC from Italy early last week 2 days later she was running a 103 fever and coughing up a lung Shes now at the hospital where they lost her first COVID19 test did a second and said it came out negative She also tested negative for the flu Shes in her 70s so shes already high risk and this whole thing is such a load of shit Theyve covering up as much as they can with no regard for the rest of the state|0 Im not joking the one by me which always has 200 cars in parking lot has a huge stockpile of it Had extra sections of it actually Our governor is a complete asshat but he created a task force that Im assuming is forcing companies to stock up|1 Never No one is funding a double blind randomized study for a med that cant be patented|0 Im in Taiwan right now I can confirm that it has been well mitigated|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 Its going to take a day or two until she becomes infectious after she gets infectedSo if she were just to stay overnight there would be no danger from that source|0 Theyre not dragging shit unfortunately The response allocated resources and behavior of congressional gop relative to proposed action is entirely orchestrated and deliberate If they were simply incompetent wed be much further along than we are now|1 Knowing the anatomy of the way Ill probably die Yay|0 Thanks Edited my post to reflect this info|1 kill it with fire|0 What if imagine this we told companies they have to pay their employees regardless and they are also not allowed to cut staff because you know we are the government|1 How can it serious Its not even a pandemic s|0 Heh I was on a roll It was like that scene in Christmas Story where the kid is beating up his bully and profanities were just flowing out It was a rage torrent|0 So can you in the UK I used to live in Germany and know it It doesnt mean you wont suffer brain damage or kidney damage or you dont go into acute respiratory failure|1 Im not a doctor so take this with a grain of salt but interstitial lung disease is a very broad umbrella with many causes It could be reversible irreversible andor progressive based on a bunch of factors such as the cause the treatment etc Someone else commented on your post who had lung damage of some kind that took a year to heal I think its case and cause specific|0 If that company name ever gets out they will be in for an absolute onslaught of abuse emails protests and knowing the internet and its denizens a fair few breaches over the coming monthsIm sure anon and their partners are totting up a list of companies to target once the situation has settled due to their fucking ludicrous behaviour in the wake of what is a global issue and a time where humanity needs to stand united|0 Our local response is disgusting|0 I debated putting reply under you continuing train of thought with more details or directly addressing the guy above you No need to be defensive I was supporting not refuting you|1 You have like a 5050 shot of dying in a car crash if you dont buckle up though Just shows that being prepared saves lives|1 The community spread is terrifying once it begins|0 there was a great post here earlier about that its about how they classify deaths in China like in the USA if you get Corona virus and then a liver complication it will list both reasons as cause of deathbut China only lists one so their deaths fromcorona virus were often listed for the other cause and were indeed massively under reported plus in heavily affected areas some people never got to the hospital or confirmed as a case|1 I completely realize that I know I wont be able to replace my income but if I could earn enough to just provide food I would be thrilled I did get my first 50 commission so that is reassuring Worst case scenario is that I get better and better at painting during this virus crisis Ha that rhymed and have a glut of paintings I can sell when this is all over that and I will have Etsy figured out a bit overwhelming|1 I am sure most people making this argument understand that Hindsight is fantastic except the people who died will already gone The issue here is that the folks were discussing arent taking the virus seriously and arent exercising precaution|0 Ok so just to be clear this is one study he says some of those who had mild which are often actually still pretty severe in terms most people would understand symptoms had reduced lung function the reduced lung function was found a few weeks after recovery not months or years later its unknown if its permanent|1 That sucks and I am sorry you went through that hardship It is not an answer for all I do hope it can help some|1 Only if you paid into the insurance It works just like unemployment benefits and can only collect if paid into while working|1 Central Oregon valley Denied testing Told I wasnt sick enough for a test and ended up disconnected Was told to call back when symptoms worsened Symptoms kept worsening over 57 days Called back Was told to stay inside and not come to the ER or urgent care clinics wear a mask if I have to go out but ideally isolatePretty sure I just hadhave very bad influenza But hey Ill never know its not like they have tests|0 I would be very happy to ban cigs also I dont support banning pods I would much rather we did a system similar to the UK where pods were effective in reducing smoking instead of like in the US with overthe top nicotine and unrestrained marketing towards youth or anyone They should have been regulated as medical devices used for quitting smoking Like in the UK or some places in EuropeYou cannot find nicotine levels as high as what any 19 year old in the US can buy in Europe|1 Good to know|1 This might be the answer if you dont have a job or friends keeping you there advertise privately to find someone to take over your lease and go be with family|1 but are people wearing masks literally EVERYONE on every street big and small in Beijing has masks on i find it hard to believe and i would feel very disappointed if people in Shanghai are not wearing masks outside|0 Could people interpret this as smokers have a higher chance of being infected and hence smokers are higher chance to be walking Covid19 spreaders open ostracism towards smokers|0 I dont think this would work well as grandparents tend to be unappreciated by a lot of if not most people Once older people get to the age that hearing they died from heart attacks and strokes is not surprising thats when younger people dont care anymore and just say it was their time to go A better campaign would focus on loved ones with asthma diabetes and cancer Most young adults know and love someone with one of these ailments and they might care more about getting the virus if they knew it was going to kill their young friends siblings cousins and parents|0 Also that the republican govt is saying all is udner control and you tend to agree more with the govt when it aligns your own world vire|1 Go knock now lol I would be haha|1 great resource|1 Same man my grandparents are in Hunan with my aunts and uncles Its scary as hellSorry man dont worry now mainland china is safer than other places According the data there are no much increase cases here and it seems china has controlled the situation|1 Read Dr Thomas Levy book called Curing the Incurable where he details all the viral infections that have been clinically shown to be cured by Vitamin C injection tens of thousands of citations in medical journals You can get it on audio book too The actual proof of this is quite overwhelming China is officially studying this now too but western medicine would rather use an injection of a vaccine than Vitamin C Not sure why other than there is so much money to be made from vaccines and Vitamin C is cheap I have stopped bad strains of influenza dead in its tracks with high doses of Vitamin C personally many times I use liposomal forms because they are 100 absorbed and much more potent to the tissues and immune system|0 Parents With so few cases in Italy in the news at the time the private school parents would have whined so hard the school worried about its funding base So the school did the tripWhy did any of those parents let their kids go to Italy Self centered ignorance The teachers didnt kidnap them across the ocean I sure wouldnt have gone when I was 16 But I grew up around scientists at NIH|0 Glad to see this not sure why my post of this article wasnt posted last night butthanks for posting|1 We are all now unwitting participants in a behavioural science experiment with no optout except if you die|0 Meals on wheels delivery and federal funding of unemployment programs to cover a sort of Short Term Disability for those without that kind of coverage|0 i think the best we can hope for is to slow and control as much as possible the spread The biggest problem is going to be overwhelmed underprepared hospitals if we can mitigate that until we can get a vaccine i think that is the best we can hope for that will take a lot of quarantining and social distancing will Americans cooperate|1 I am calling on all people in all countries to needlessly reduce their consumption until such time as we get the FUCKING TRUTH from our governments They clearly think keeping us in the dark will save their economies Make that not true Fight back Stop buying anything nonessential until they admit their tactic has failed|1 I keep hearing this pensions saved lol but the more realistic scenario is overcrowded hospitals people with pneumonia who have to weather it at home and all the hysteria that follows pandemics Already we see empty shelves in ItalyI have friends in Russia and they tell me theyre already in a recession government workers not getting paid Add a pandemic on top of that and things could get ugly|0 credit to ualfredlear13 posted on rChinaFlu|1 Girlfriend went to Germany a week ago and got sick with flulike symptoms after coming home I got sick shortly thereafter According to our local countys health board we dont qualify for testing Its probably nothing but come on|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if 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made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 My California neighbor is from Kerala He is very well to do and has a condo in Kerala The pictures he sends back of the area are beautiful I have asked him stupid questions about India Kerala doesnt sound like the India I imagine|1 Academic universities do these kinds of studies all the time your ignorance is showing|0 One wonders why if it was just zoonotic and in no way WHATSOEVER connected to their biolab which incidentally is just right there around the corner|0 I work in the ER so hopefully I can work from home too|1 This has zero credibility without SOME evidence to support it I could write literally the same thing having made it all up and people would believe it Give us SOMEthing to give it credence|1 Its sort of how you do not build up immunity to the flu or the common cold not one disease but a whole slew of them These fast mutating viruses change too fast to effectively gain immunity for long term COVID19 might be extra bad because immediate reinfection may be be possible|1 10 in Canada now What a joke 10 to a max of 25k per company Not even a dent in our payroll|1 Theyre not stepping anything upTheyre still refusing to test people unless you have a direct link to ChinaMy company just confirmed a case thankfully Im working remote since 3 weeks Guess what No ones getting tested just stay at home with your family and work from home for the next 2 weeks you might get tested if you have a 4 days of high fever andor pneumoniaSame thing for a friend of mine this morning He might have it company drinking party with a sick confirmed person Everyone is asked to work from home No testingSo yeah both the Olympics are going as planned doubled down this morning by the ministers and no testings to keep numbers down for PR|0 I dont see why it wouldnt Smoking is smoking the effects on your lungs are more generally the same Sure nicotine and tar is definitely more detrimental but smoking anything will take its toll significantly|1 Its difficult to say as Italy is about at the forefront of this The epidemics in China and South Korea were probably older but they were well contained and Italy has chosen a different pathWorst caseIn Hubei province before the quarantines went into effect and the new hospitals were built the death rate skyrocketed to 15 because of the strain on the medical system Worst case this happens in Italy while the epidemic continues to ravage the country for another 23 months By July Italy will be mourning 1 out of every 6 citizens but they will be through the worst of it and ready to recover The economy will of course be in tatters Covid19 will recur every year or two and knock out another 5 of the populationBest case The lockdown and quarantines do what theyre doing in South Korea Infected cases start to go down the medical system adapts to handle it and the death rate falls to about 1 Itll still take until July to recover and the economy is still smashed but a lot fewer people will die Well get a vaccine next year and Covid19 will disappear like polioI think the best case scenario is more likely as every other nation on Earth has incentive to help Italy right now but of course well actually come in somewhere between the two scenarios|0 Did you guys have Lmao|1 FunnyI used to reward myself with a couple smokes after a 3 mile run|1 Right Im going to write letters practice guitar and singing file my records resize some clothes dance around go in our woods play with my dog Got hours on hours of stuff for me Last few years Ive rarely had friends over so Ive gotten extremely good at keeping myself busyOnly thing I am doing thats not social distancing is having a friend over here and there Honestly wouldnt make a difference to me if they came over or not I am really good at self entertaining but they are finally not busy now lmao If they or anybody around them was sick though we wont hang out in person That and my mom really wants to go quick thrifting Tuesday There arent a lot of people and its only 2 quick stops so I told her Would Sigh|0 When government is truthfully for the people and by the people|1 Stop with the high fives thats how it spreads Try thumbs up instead|0 I havent been following the DP resolve rates info flood is overwhelming but I saw someone else post something about the DP cases still being updated in some agency totals maybe WHO May be some leakage in categorization now as I think some are repatriated and there was discussion they could be grouped under national totals now asymptomatic at diagnosisThis could be influenced by testing criteria in effect at that time for that population I havent read into it deep enough yet to understand if testing was all at once in waves or prioritized by exposure potential DP is a nice natural experiment that were lucky to have but still comes with unique differences in population mixing treatment etc It also has some unique advantages such as consistent medical staff etc Also Im assuming the test kits were from the same source had similar handling and sampling was probably more consistent than with a diffuse general population|1 If theyre bringing personnel they would be entirely self sufficient and know the risks No matter how you look at it the CCP refusing help makes them look bad If you dont agree thats fine but I certainly would find it absurd|0 Prides likely going to be cancelled just about everywhere this year|0 Im in a directly related industry Im worried|0 A cold weather runny nose doesnt always mean the mucus contains a virus It happens to healthy people too Its gross but not a vector when it does not contain contagion|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5348083If the reproduction number is decaying to 1 either through public health efforts change in climate or a reductionsaturation of the susceptible population you basically have a quadratic dispersion patternEventually itll look linear or logistic|0 Switzerland has already forbidden events with more than 1000 people Also the big lectures 200 people at my uni have been cancelled People are quickly put into quarantine I think we are handling the situation as good as possible But it is still a virus and they can be quite unpredictable|0 Can confirm In Japan Not testing The idea that we have less cases than Italy is a farce There is no evidence one way or the other|0 They said they were looking into everyone they may have been in contact with Id like to know where these people live Because the CDC is in Atlanta and if theyre doing the testing it shouldnt take 36hrs to get the results if theyre in the metro I can reasonably see it if they live in rural areas But New York said now theyre equipped to provide results in 12hrs|1 The article doesnt say he is a Russian asset or anything close to that The timing of this article is clearly due to Sanders current campaign and the fact that it concerns events that took place no more recently 32 years ago means that there was nothing harmful in any of the documents Did you read the article|1 My works official statement is that they would begin discussing precautionary measures once the infection spreads to our employeesWe used to work from home New president doesnt trust us with it though|0 Yeah that Lancet article from the end of January called it Self propagating outbreaks from Wuhan Asian Cites World cites in about a month Only Draconian government efforts would slow it down|1 Wonder if this will happen when they bring in that 1000 fine for ignoring the self isolations and social distancing|0 Thanks for the replying Also if you want the source for the proof reading I have the link herehttpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1003760 to it|1 Better late than neverI suppose this enables certain legal clauses in business shifts some funding resources around etc|1 No hes right you have to take into account the lag but of course the media never does cos that would make the rate even higher They started calculating it by deaths today cases today which gave them 2but it wasnt long before it moved up to 3 and then 4 but they kept saying 2 anywayBut in reality you have take into account a lag since people take around 23 weeks to die according to the WHO and China|0 Am I not human People are infecting others delaying the economic recovery by weeks and months by infecting others How the hell am I supposed to get another caramel macchiato if everyone is still sick Go home|0 Try a month or so China let tons of people leave the area before the travel bans They knew what was up they had a chance to contain it But guess there is no more riots now and everyone is doing what they are told|0 It is the ACE2 increase which is the issue which is caused by drugs like ibuprofen which in turn is often taken by diabetics etcThere are bunch of studies about this currently it is all very fresh data ofchttpswwwsciencemediacentreorgexpertreactiontoreportsthatthefrenchhealthministerrecommendeduseofparacetamolforfeverfromcovid19ratherthanibuprofenorcortisone|1 Hope your uncle makes it through okay|1 I refuse to believe it Its must be misinformation|0 What tests It is important to know what tests|1 damn well at least Im healthy and young so I should be okayYeah about that|1 As I have noted I heard the official say this on CBC and Global News so unfortunately there is no linkRegardless of what Canada is doing what struck me is that there is rigorous and less rigorous testing so I would be interested to know if different countries have different testing protocols|0 Id like to see numbers of hospitals and ER urgent care centers on numbers of visit symptoms and admitted Compared to the last 23 years|1 Ooh is there a source for that Thats significant|1 Once again I just want to tell uprimalism to suck it because he was wrong Exponential dip my ass|0 Donald trump is the last person on fucking earth you want in charge during this|1 Yeah ive pretty much stopped vaping nicotine Withdrawal not even that bad surprisingly|1 Sorry are you telling me that even WITH insurance you will still have to stump up that moneyIt turns out the most profitable way of running an insurance business is by using loopholes to avoid paying for claims|1 Its not an upper bound unless we can guarantee all the currently infected patients recover|0 I might have posted the wrong link Scroll down and see if you see thisHeres one paragraphhttpsiimgurcomdQwPZGUjpg|0 Good idea Can be done on clothes as well|1 Its causing global panic entire countries are shutting down businesses are closing people are losing their jobs Its more than just the body count|0 There are two main things that would cause COVID19 to not produce lasting immunogenicityThe first is if COVID19 had antigens that somehow do not allow memory B cells to make a pattern map and thus confer longlasting immunitythat is they form very weak or no antibodymediated immunity There are a few bugs like this in the wild including a number of noncoronaviral common colds like parainfluenza virus and RSV The failure of RSV vaccines in particular is that the body just doesnt form a longterm immune response from B cells that can produce antibodies the body tends to fight off RSV and parainfluenza with killer T cells which dont form a longterm immune responsea process called cellbased immunityThe other way that it could fail to produce lasting immunogenicity is if it wrecked the immune system itself in some manner note this has not been proven for COVID19 Im only discussing this on how some viruses avoid longterm immunity from being formed HIV is probably the classic one here as its a retrovirus that preferentially infects T cells but measles is also a surprising example full blown measles can cause immune amnesiahttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41586019033247a kind of paraAIDS in which the bodys memory B cellseffectively forget their entire catalogue its not uncommon for people who get the measles to have to get their full immunisation series all over again because of thisTheres some more indepth discussion herehttpspcoukorgchapteraspxsectionid78926493bookid1353 orif youre a manga or anime fantheres actually a series Cells At Work that goes into this in remarkably solid detail including one example where antibodymediated immunity and memory B cells work entirely TOO well with cedar pollen allergies D|0 Yes N95 masks are common in Asia due to pollution Luckily they were stockpiling for other reasons and it turned out super useful|1 I think and I hope that if you get positive with this speed test youre going to be tested once again with the maybe more reliable slow testThats why Id rather focus on false negatives of this new tests instead of false positive|1 Time to go to the Winchester stay the fuck home have a pint and wait for this to all blow over|0 Itll never happen in workplaces There would be riots A huge portion of the country is paycheck to paycheck A zero dollar paycheck would leave a lot of people going hungry andor homeless|0 No they are lying by not providing that context when they absolutely know it|0 I disagree that the spread will be as horrific as Wuhan in the first few weeks I think the obsession with hand washing and masks and just the overall awareness will prove to make a difference|0 There are lots of people in the press claiming these counts are the real numbers even some of the expertsI overheard one of the experts on the This Week in Virology accept the Chinese numbers multiple times on the last podcast and the press is running with these numbers as real not just confirmedThe other aspect of this is that there is evidence that even these confirmed numbers are significantly downplayed by both China and some other southeast asian countries I mean does anyone really believe that Laos has ZERO cases or that North Korea has only one confirmed and yet 5 dead The obvious conclusion here is that even if China cleans all this up were going to see secondary retransmission back to China from its neighboring countries|0 Admittedly that 30 is a huge assumption however the flush is 30 with a vaccine If this gets out of control we will be lucky to have infection rates this low|1 Well you are straight up lying so why are suprised at people calling it bs|0 According to your post history 99 days ago you were talking about how you will have to start living in your barely functioning car again This is because you could not keep up with the workload of a great tech job and mention how you tried explaining you had autism and nobody seemed to care Now you are bragging about how you and all your boys have sports cars and about how high your IQ is and about how people have shitty excuses to quit smoking Do you not see the parallels here I am sorry that you have been in a tough spot and I am sorry if you feel like your condition is getting in your way and that it is not fair but it is not okay to go tearing other people down who are making a positive change in their lives It also is definitely not cool to make stories about your life up to put yourself on a pedestal specially when you have post history that contradicts what you are saying Like the many people in this thread choose to be better|1 unfortunately no because they didnt publish it only source availble is from news outlethttpswwwcnncom20200213healthuscoronavirustestkitsindexhtml|0 But most of the deaths wont be attributed to covid19 They will have died from pneumonia or the Flu No one will ever know the true impact|0 Washington State here Just got an email tonight from Superintendent of Schools Northshore School District We are in the suburbs northeast of Seattle The Superintendent is closing Bothell High School tomorrow out of an abundance of caution due to a family member of a staffer getting sick after international travel and being quarantined in hospital with their family quarantined at home The Superintendents email is also interesting because it contains what I interpret as pretty open criticism of CDC excerpted below The school is in a tough spot because of the testing delay To that point a member of our Bothell High School staff returned to work on Monday after a week of international travel They reported that a family member who was traveling with them became sick on Tuesday and was taken to the hospital and is currently being treated monitored and quarantined The staff member is also quarantined at home for 14 days At this time there is no confirmation that the family members illness is connected to the coronavirus outbreak but out of an abundance of caution the family member is being tested Our initial understanding was that we would learn the test results in one day However during my conversation with Washington State Department of Health Epidemiologist Scott Lindquist MD and representatives of Public Health Seattle King County I was told that the test results may take 57 days For obvious reasons I have made a formal request that the CDC provide more rapid results and I have asked other community leaders to push for the same With that said the Department of Health this afternoon issued a letter that indicates their belief that the risk to students and staff is minimal and that they do not believe the current situation warrants closing Bothell High School However as we await the aforementioned test results it is out of an abundance of caution that I have decided that Bothell High School will be closed tomorrow Thursday February 27 While today our support services staff have been taking initial steps to disinfect the areas where the staff member traveled on the campus we need more time to fully and completely disinfect the entire school as a preventive measureSo yeah CDC is not inspiring confidence That is concerning|0 Yeah he is trying but with all the exceptions Im not sure what is actually banned Our local mall did close so maybe it was done to scare places into taking the right step|0 From my perspective the river cruise and trip to Europe my parents were planning for May Absolutely unnecessaryIf it makes you feel better that cruise is almost certainly not going to take place Europe will have tens of millions of infected people by then|1 Meth may be a cure I bet no one has tried it yet |0 I feel like if everything turns out okay from this second onward that doesnt validate them or invalidate us Just because it didnt rain doesnt mean being prepared with an umbrella was a bad move|0 People with diabetes type 2 tend to be older individuals with other comorbidites Drug addicts are not all immunocompromised Yours truely health care professional|1 I have no fucking idea how a industrialized country can exist with such a shit healthcare systemusa|0 Plot twist Pence does an incredible job somehow gets lauded as a public hero and ends up usurping Trump in the election|1 Well i was taking one for a bio class my freshman year my bulldog sneezed and the proctor locked my text because he thought someone else was in the room with meAlso i think they only watch you Its an indian call center type place the type you see in memes I hve done it about 15 times all indian people and I can often hear other proctors talking in the background|1 I sincerely doubt schools take temps of all kids at any given time So probably not|1 I wish you a speedy full recovery and thank you for making the decision to stay at home while you get better I think that you and anyone else who has been sick with a cold or flu like illness should try to get tested at a later date once things calm down to see if you whether you had COVID19 or not It will help us find out just what the infection rate was which will affect the mortality rate too I heard that Bill Gates is preparing in home tests to be ready in the next couple weeks so that should help things along further|1 I think because this person is not telling his story at all hes just describing how he thinks COVID sounds unimpressive to him|0 The problems are no different than any other media literacy or critical thinking Eg extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence In this thread I have seen persons throwing out idle speculation of preposterous claims with no evidence other than I feel like its true that is a perfect example of something that should be removed|1 Well he didnt until he died of corona virus if you catch my drift|1 If she is due next week Im surprised her doctor isnt recommending to Induce now|1 i say this as one of the front line workers who is ready and not at all scared to have these patients in my ICU yall need to relax|1 Correct me if Im mistaken but in France isnt there a practice of greeting by kissing both cheeks or at least pretendkissing near the persons cheeks I had heard that the more times someone does this in a greeting the further out into the countryside theyre fromThis kind of physically close greeting would seem to me to be a major risk for rapidly spreading the disease|1 You mean death camps with no doctors|0 I like the idea but Im not entirely sure how a 3D printer helps Ideally we need to make something like in the link below but have it automatedWed need a mask instead of a tube down the throat as seen in the videoAlso Im not entirely sure on this but we might also need oxygen rich canisters Maybe a medical professional can elaborate on thishttpsyoutubeLJKs3d9wQMLastly we need a way to detect when the lungs are being filled up with fluid to alert medical staffEditOkay some more details that I found We need to automate a bag valve mask with easily available items and have a way to remove fluid from the lungs or at least detect it to alert medical staff MIT students automating a bag valve maskhttpsyoutubeNiMcbdYNMMI|1 Yeah but if you read the article there is a pretty decent logic to their decision They were using N95s earlier when they wanted to err on the side of caution until they had more clear data N95s are used when a virus has airborne transmission Now that data clearly points to droplet transmission infectious disease experts urged the province to stop using N95s for the time being in order to conserve the depleting resources should new evidence demonstrate that things are airborne and truly needed|1 You think Bernie has a chance of winning the nomination How low does that chance have to drop before you think its irresponsible for him to stay in the race 0 1|1 My guess is that a number of people on those flights were already infected and that many of them probably knew it A side effect of allowing a couple of days before the lock down began and of Trump making it sound like even American citizens wouldnt be allowed back is that people were incentivized to hide their illness so that they could get back before being stuck there|0 Wow if the biggest punishment for putting millions of lives at an unnecessary risk is not getting reelected democracy has failed|0 Oh ha your third paragraph is spot on I laughed darkly at that|1 Too many Americans take our 1A right for granted and want more authoritarianism under the guise of political correctness|1 Thats bullshit The UK are doing fucking nothing Other countries are acting and closing things down and encouraging isolating The UK is doing fucking nothing not even testing|0 I think it is only fair for the country that invents the vaccines to use most of them on their own citizens|1 Well the Vatican has its first positive cough cough|1 Well this is much better than the 9 days on surfaces that was originally reported|1 Not that Id ever support the current American administration but China is coming out the other side of their part of the pandemic and America is mired in the first stages so that probably has an effect as all countries are trying to do what htey can within their own borders and at least some will reach out when and as they can It is hard to know what resources would be needed here Canada in the next few weeks so shipping medical supplies away would be very poor decisions now with no disrespect intended to Italy|0 It landed on the 26th or am I reading wrong|0 America or India humans are humanshttpsmedexlivecomnews2020mar14iitmadrasstudentplayscoronaprankonbuspassengershaltsbustogetintofriendscar10674ampIITMadras student plays Corona prank on bus EdexliveVirus will be cured but stupidity shall grow as humanity progresses in the post modern period|0 Ugh Im sorry|0 Free pot of coronavirus at the end of the rainbow Everyone bring your own boomers|1 Welcome to the selective outrage of Reddit everything is acceptable as long as it helps contribute to further bashing of China regardless if its true or not This sub has followed down that road too The Chinese government did mess up big time by leaving the virus unchecked for a good four weeks or so but now theyre trying to do everything they can to contain it But the latter part doesnt matter to some of these people|1 Not a fan of either side|0 I think thats one of the worst thing about this whole virus ordeal is that people will slowly lose their empathy Myself included at times as we tend to treat those people as infected or their deaths as just merely numbersWhen in reality all these people are suffering and they are not just numbers on a reportstudyarticle I myself have needed to remind myself that these arent just numbers these are all human beings going through tough timesThank you for sharing this OP Sad story indeed|0 My FIL has gone down to the corner store for coffee for probably the last 30 years Every single day Even when theres a hurricane he goes Now he is sick with actual symptoms cough feverhusband and I are only just now getting over it after 8 days of hell and Ill be damned if he didnt leave the house this morning to go to that fucking store I was like Arent you afraid of getting other people sick dad And he just scoffed like what an absurd notion Is 100 convinced he just has some random mild bug despite refusing to call a doctor about it|0 Just got the BBC push notification confirming this Thanks for giving us the heads up|1 Im kinda happy people are finally waking up I said to my mother today we cant depend on our leaders to make good decisions about this We need to look at the facts and act reasonable and informed choices to keep ourselves safe It might be time to quarantine before they declare it|1 China upped quarantine length to 28 days after people who were quarantined for 14 days were still testing positive|1 Does spreading false narrative and shitposting online make you feel better Its ok dont forget to pay Mr Lee this months rent|1 reporting also involves the states agreeingvalidating counts by a certain time cdc is not supposed to throw things up without concurrence from the state epidemiologist that can be why theres a delay or lag if cdc somehow gets ahead of that state person then seriously states get pissed because internally they need to notify their leaders like the state health official and governor this protocol is not well explained but ask any epis and they will confirm that reporting is always at the pace of the jurisdiction |0 so he was tested negative is justified the way he was treated by the system Pathetic people like you should think three times before opening the mouth what if he would have been positive Are we playing a game of luck with peoples life Germany has a pathetic system They should learn from Italy period|1 In 2018 there were 62593 whiteonblack violent crimesIn the same time frame there were 320082 blackonWhite crimesWhen adjusted for population black people are 25x more likely to assault a white person than a white person is to assault a black person|0 Thats true about the thresholds Im in a similar position though I feel that the effect to the wider public of my departments services temporarily halting would be less damaging than the effect of the whole office contracting the virus passing it around en masse|0 I hope that if one positive thing comes out from all this horror is that we regain a perspective on the importance of compassion for one another and regain a true sense of humanity|1 Yes preferably eBay steps inlike 2 days ago Unless youre in dire need the TP supply should normalize somewhat over the next couple weeks Or getmake a simple bidet|0 You do understand that the travel industry employs the most people out of any industry worldwide You understand that literally nobody is flying at the moment This isnt a case of poor management but rather that an entire industry lost all of its customers within a couple of months As you might imagine planes are pretty expensive to run and paying out tens of thousands of salaries with zero incoming cash isnt sustainable Theres also the issue of airport slots which are causing companies to run ghost flights with no passengers in order to hold onto their places at major airportsPeople signing this petition are the same people who wouldve been up in arms when Thomas Cook went down and you are essentially advocating for millions to have the same fate This money isnt coming directly from the pocket of the NHS were already heading for recession why are you campaigning to make millions redundant|0 No I can still go out of my community to the supermarket I just need to have my ID card marked on the way out and in again and my temperature checked People are mostly still avoiding going out though unless absolutely necessary At the beginning I could go out and in much as I pleased then in the second week it was only between 711am then the next week it was only once every other day but now its settled back down to like it was at first Only one member of your household is allowed to use the card each day though Im quite lucky in that I live alone with my dogIm also lucky that my community is really big its like a 4km loop around around it so I can still cycle and walk my dog freely without it counting as a trip outside|1 Thats a good point too|1 From now on all posituve tests done by ab health dont need to be sent to Winnipeg So no more presumptions lol|1 With your name you are not trusted|0 Ugh whats wrong with people|0 France also stopped testing|0 I can concur My local news did a report about how the gun and ammo sales have skyrocket in my state Ill get the link|0 Yea he did wonders for the HIV epidemic by ignoring itnfor 8 years|0 I think this applies primarily to foreign citizens living in the US There are a lot of foreign citizens legally working and living longterm in the US on H1B visas and the like With the current timelines for Green Card stretching into decades for some of these people they have likely made their life here effectively but are not considered permanent legal residents ie GC holders as yet They are considered legal nonimmigrant aliensI know a few such folks in management consulting banking corporate jobs etc who were on business travel in EU last week and had to rush back to the US and conversely depart US for EU within a day or so once Trump issued travel advisory to the Schengen region|1 How much money exactly are they throwing at propaganda what have you been reading Are you on the ground over there The fact that the major provinces are completely shut down and factories closed disproves your theory people are working from home in less severe cities like ShangHai and are discouraged from leaving their homes I dont see a big push to boost the economy these are lives we are talking about not just some economic statistic and its time your tone shifted to a supportive stance rather than a doom and gloom pessimistic stance What you can do is to raise hygiene consciousness around your friends and family instead of being Mad Brad here on the Internet|0 Seriously what is wrong with youWhat is wrong with youEdit For real tho Why is it ok for doomers to say they wont talk with new account because chinaxD but I cant say the same about them I dont understand tbh|0 You should have left weeks ago best to self quarantine in China for approx 14 days ya know so you dont potentially spread the disease to the rest of the world and risk a true global plague|1 in childern though I have a hard time beliving kids lungs are suffering from pnuemonia and scarring with zero symptoms|0 look i dont support trump and there were SO many things he missed in his speech that i wish he brought up but at least this is one good thing he did watch the speech its short or look it up|1 Even better we got our son as a parting gift Also found the pic of the bill httpsiimgurcomdwAQ3K3jpg|1 America has lots and lots of mobile homes just roll one in and each room can be converted to hold 4 patients the kitchen and dining room too This also keeps each population per MH isolated from each otherThen in a month clean and return to dealer|1 Everyone knows this is indeed an issue here but its not like this for everyone You seem to think the whole populous has to take out a new mortgage to see a GP for a runny nose|0 Pretty sure the San Antonio cases are listed at the top with the cruise count|1 Yeah Im not worried I just was like wow|1 I wish I was that determined with anything|1 If there is mortgage relief what happens to individuals who are renting Do we stop paying rent to landlord|1 Just awesome|1 Does any one know if people from HK are still unrestricted to the US during the ban|0 The correct course will be to put them into proper quarantineIts too late for the Westerdam Almost all passengers have already disembarked The r0 would give us insight into how many of these passengers now roaming the world freely are potentially infected However I agree that the quarantine of the Diamond Princess was unethical and for the passengers ineffective|0 Chesco here Rumors of cases are Crozer Hospital are flying Seeing more people in masks and gloves Im nervous But my advice is to secure your network so to speak Talk to family and friends about having plans if some of you get sick even if they arent taking it seriously Organize your shit Buy comfort foods Be hygienic cautious and sensible but dont let fear overwhelm you|1 Bummer|0 im sure the sick destitute broke and the dead are quite satisfied that it wasnt their fault they are in this situation|0 True|1 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Morons The correct answer is dont worry about it Well find the units you need and have them overnighted and get our manufacturing dept to make sure you dont run out|1 The data we have is of zero statistical value The international cases are the ones to watch but the disease has only run its course in a small fraction of them so far|1 I told people in late January and got ridiculed I told people again halfway through February and they laughed againFinally around late Febearly march I started wondering what in the world is it going to take to wake up America A celebrity infection maybe The stock market crash In the end I think it might have been the NBA gamesLike you I foresee city lock downs and swamped hospitals I also am concerned about city looting and food theftsrobbery general lawlessness and anticipate well see national guard and martial law in some cities in the next 2 or 3 weeks To this day even with at least 13 states announcing statewide school closures I have friends trying to tell me its not as bad as the flu|1 Lower reporting Im sure it has a lot to do with simply not being able to count the paperwork and bodies its gotta be hell for those people in China |0 This post was good if people felt this was to create panic its because they arent ready|0 This is a serious question and has probably been answered somewhere but why do they think the US will have so much China has more people horrible living conditions and not that great health care and theyre now seeming to kinda be stagnant with it Not mocking or sounding arrogant just looking for info|0 Damnit and its only a matter of time before this stuff escalates and starts turning into riots|0 Good thing I heard theres a cure 725 5th ave Run there asap before its gone|1 The next step is the loss of faith in all US government institutions as the states become little more than fifty dissociated republicsThat would be a great thing though Federal overreach over the last hundred years has been a disaster|1 It was very clear that that was what happened in Wuhan and is happening now in Iran When hospitals are overwhelmed the most vulnerable die People reading this sub for more than a month shouldve been aware of that its been discussed from the beginning that unless measures such as were taken in Singapore Hong Kong and possibly South Korea and Israel there would be a dramatic cost of life Most countries have resigned their most vulnerable to such a high chance of death by producing a high peak infection rate|0 Yuck yuck yuck yuck Im sorry Show up with a full body suit mask goggles and claim to have just a cough but nothing serious probably just the flu|0 How would that work in practice though Most commercial tablets are Chloroquine Phospate 250mg Many thanks|1 Made me smile|1 In the press conference yesterday they were explicit that if a business is insured against notifiable diseases then they are able to make a claim on their insurance on the basis of current government advice they dont need to be forced to closehttpsyoutubesWnKqu9cZ6k skip to 4220 and they start discussing insuranceIf theyre not insured against against this type of situation thats another matter and we can certainly discuss what we think should happen in that case|0 Yeah This is all the rage right now Being talked about everywhere Side effects are real so hopefully careful use|1 Alternatively the thing youre replacing is just excessively slow or expensive due to a lack of competitionI mean you could probably make a 500 kit that took two months to find out if you were pregnant if literally nobody else bothered to make one to compete with it|0 Thats just Trump lying We dont have tests At least nothing available to people who have no or mild symptoms They only have a few that they have to parse out to the most serious cases There is no preventive testing for healthcare workers or anything like that eitherEdit I forgot to include that you must have a direct link to someone who is already tested positive as well Does anyone else see the absurdity in that International travel to China or Italy might get you a test if you have severe symptoms|0 I feel exactly the same Im trying to take it with a pinch of salt since there are many other reasons why people are coughing more It could easily be because theyre unconsciously doing it because of the virus like a yawning thing It doesnt mean they have it|1 Both the woman and her husband were symptomatic on arrival at the airport though so far only the woman has tested positive So she at least was 100 infectious while on the flight and probably on the ship tooWhy passengers werent checked coming off the ship I dont know Probably just wanted them out of the country asap|1 China has released case data for about 1100 patients last I know to international researchers but not publicly However while fairly rare the virus has been detected in children and even infants I would not say young people always recover off the top of my head but certainly have a much better prognosis than anyone older and with more complications|1 But I made it the subject of my comment I understand youre doing tests and trying to contain the virus I just find it ironic that the people who ridiculed us yesterday are those that are infected and dying today I guess your health care and hygiene isnt as great as you thought This will teach you not to make fun of other countries if any of you are even left|0 Theyll probably steal one of your kidneys tho|0 Yall as a city need to do something about your exotic trader problem|0 Trump is an agent of Putin and every action he has taken destabilizes and weakens AmericaWhy would they waste a golden opportunity now|0 I feel your pain with that one Ive done my shopping online since the introduction of these using the machines is fine but when it goes into the unexpected item or assistance mode I get so anxious I cant bring myself to try and get the staffs attention and instead stand around looking awkward for about 10 minutes until they notice Horrible experience I miss staffed checkouts simpler times|0 Yes it really does I feel like being a smart ass and drinking wine watching the human cluster ruck in 2 weeks at our local Walmart from a very safe distance Actually scratch that It will be sad People dont have money and not being informed Its bad Cue the lunesta and wine please time for me to go nighty night |1 This is why the US will be fucked we are greedy and care more about profits than community safety|1 Ugh thats the worst I hope it passes fast and you feel better soon|0 You answered the question yourself People know they could be asymptomatic carriers of the disease It becomes societal norm to wear the mask for the greater good Reducing the spread to others reduces the chance you become reinfected and frees up hospital resources in case you end up needing themIm sure there are many people in Asia who wear the mask selfishly but that is ignorance The science on this is clear Heres a test wear one of these masks when its cold outside Youll see that air flows in and out around the edges easily Now cough Youll notice almost no moisture or droplets escape|1 My coworkers are always careful on text and email but we have a some in app chat functions behind the vpn and they are pretty concerned|1 Why bother when we have scihub|0 So perfect for a global recession then|1 Ive not been able to find any masks either and been trying for a few days Like one box is all I need in case we get put on quarantine and can only move about with masks Some woman on Etsy is selling fabric masks but has to ship from Malaysia I do have dust masks but I dont think theyll be super helpful I just already had them from painting awhile back|1 Its important I think to try and avoid condemning individuals the two things I would condemn are the CCP an organization and the ideology of nationalism not the individuals supporting both whether that support is genuine or under duress|0 Hes literally the Head of Government There have been several cases where hes outright lied and has spread false information about COVID19 There was also a report this morning that he stopped the CDC from recommending old and immunocompromised people to not flySorry you cant seperate out the governments failings from Trump Hes literally been in charge for 3 years now and has had plenty of time to prep our emergency services and healthcare system|0 Yes and that was combined with an acknowledgement that regardless of ones view on them it was not politically feasible to get rid of welfare programs meaning that according to his statements while he would have preferred radical changes to the economy in the real world he would have supported the UBI that you describe|1 China lied People died|0 There we goI suppose my deep seeded fear of being put at the bottom of the far too long list was correct I already knew it was correct but I was hoping that being in my 30s despite being immunosuppressed might put me higher up than that NopeSounds selfish but Im thinking of my 2 young kids not really my mortality for my sake|0 Whered you get that definition Dividend is an accounting treatment You can pay a dividend if youre losing money it happens all the time Im not trying to be dense if I own a stock the only difference between receiving a dividend and not is the tax treatmenthttpswwwquoracomWhenacompanymadeanetlosscanitstillpaydividendstoitsshareholdersHowdoesthecompanypaydividendsandwhataretheimplicationstowardsthatcompany|0 Yet Irans population is pretty young|1 I keep seeing this sub pop up on rall and its pretty hilarious how many conspiracy nutprepper people there are Acting like theyre weeks away from their middle of nowhere town being wiped out|1 Arrowe ParkYou gotta be shitting me with these coincidences|0 TBF in the country its less densely populated and therefore quarantine is almost automatic The farmers during the bubonic plague also did a lot better than people living inside the city Just because they were further away from it for one|1 Ill never understand people who make very opinionated claims in areas they dont know about especially science and medicine both of you not knowing what isolating a virus means should encourage you to read more understand the definition before making a claim there are many educational videos even on YouTube for every age group and education levelHe was completely south but then you add that 14 days incubation period has been debunked and that its actually 5Do you realize how wrong you areHint 1 research the definition and details of the nCoV incubation periodHint 2 its available on both the WHO and CDC websites a simple google search gives you direct links and quote|0 Coronavirus literally means virus with the crownWere no longer the king of the food chain The virus with the crown is king|0 First of all I live circa 120km from big international airport full of chinese everytime I go there Second our neighbouring state Ukraine has already few suspicious cases not yet confirmed Third I work for a foreign company and there are hundreds of foreign workers there mainly from France which has already confirmed cases Lastly learn some manners and dont call random people idiots trust me you wouldnt say that to my face so dont say it on internet either |1 Michigander coming in peace Im proud to call you my neighbor Ohio You are very much setting an example for the midwest Keep it up|1 They want an award for being a super spreader And bonus too|1 I expect them to give 100 dollars steam wallet credit so people can load up on a game or two but only when lockdowns are actually put inand then theyll get the gov to reimburse later|1 My UPS driver said I didnt even have to sign if I didnt want to a few days ago for expensive cancer meds and stayed a good distance back Who knows how many touched that pen that day I was happy even though I had a clorox wipe in my hand|1 Yeah I understood that your quote was supposed to be satire But to make a joke of satire its supposed to exaggerate on the truth But you were just plain wrong about what he said so your joke makes no sense|1 Nobody can be so sure about this Current numbers are high indeed but we also doing way more tests than other big countriesWell see in a few months how europe will respond|1 All good took it as one Thatll be unfortunate if your theory expires I hope you manage to have a better outcome than that buddy I however dont drive out of choice Im terrified of it due to my ADHD very much convinced I will eventually kill someone So Im very much dependent on public transport|0 Sure shows a ton of faith in the higher power |1 It seems our government is more worried about the stock market than peoples lives|0 Howdy neighbor The state isnt disclosing it because were a tourism dollar driven state The government is terrified of losing that money Personally fuck the money lets worry about our people first but that aint gonna happen Hope you both stay safe|0 I feel sad and alone My girlfriend returned from Hawaii sick and refused to stay home from work Shes becomes extremely angry with me every time I mention coronavirus Doesnt care that Im worried even when I mentioned that I fear for my parents and grandmothers health Shes the kind of person who has an easier time living in denial of certain things but I never expected this reaction even with all the news coming out Ive been with her for three years shes given me a lot of shit in that time but Ive never felt this invisible|0 So the masks are effective for what they are for They are just as effective in and of themselves for both the general public and healthcare providers True|1 I may or may not have narrated to myself in a rapidfire horse race announcer voice while this was playing only no one wonCool visualization Havent seen this before|0 2020 is becoming the Infinity War of all years|0 Hard to say but I dont think there are that many hidden deaths|0 Course the other problem is the market has systematically taken the small investor out so my guess is therell be little sympathy from the 99 towards another bailout|0 Ill stick with Dr John Campbell on YouTube If you havent watched him wellyou just might have time in the near future to bingewatch Today Thursday Feb 27 is a video about selfisolation at home VERY informative|0 Good point I should question what my rationale is in this instance if it is actually supported by data and science not by how some people or media choose to respond to those objective facts To be honest Ive had a hard time trusting the science since many people have said that the data coming out of many countries is not accurate But we can only hope that Italy is being straightforward and actually showing us whats going on I guess I still have a bit of paranoia about who to actually trust which makes it harder for me to discern who is telling the truth about things|1 Foolish me seems like US is doing even worse President Trump would have looked at what happened to Wuhan and acted He instead dismiss it as flu Back in the days when Obama is in the office may be things would have been a bit different|0 COVID 19 has badly spiked up the prices of basic necessities especially hand sanitizers |1 Totally I had heard that asthmatics were less likely to get severe disease which had seemed illogical to me as our lungs are so delicate but often our meds include a regular course of corticosteroids Im really excited to see how the data develops in the weeks to come|1 Sadly the dailymailcoukhttpsdailymailcouk today provides better reporting vs the seattle sites their lead headline currently DM Washington county with nine coronavirus deaths urges ALL its 22MILLION residents to work from home pulls 22000 students from school and tells everyone over 60 to stay indoorsCrosscut WA considers requiring new construction projects to improve the environment|1 Send it to 16000 Pennsylvania Avenue Thats where mine is going to go EDIT No Taksies Backsies|0 My husband and two of my sons work at the same place Theyre all computer programmers that work on laptops that theyve always been allowed to bring home Theyre not allowed to work from home right now tho Theyve had multiple employee meetings where theyve literally said that if you dont feel well keep your distance from other people at work and wash your hands a lot They dont even want people who are sick to stay home|0 Very fast growth but not all of it is in the 2 weeks a lot of it was before that which was tracked down with the testingStill doubling time without containment looks to be on the order of 35 days or so IMO|1 Yeah it does that It doesnt go down|1 Im fortunate enough to have 0 deductible|1 HOOOW SI THIS GOOD FUCK THEOLD|0 Its true and at the moment its chitting season so they go extra quickly|1 Same I have it for a similar autoimmune disease and a 90day supply on hand This makes me feel a tiny bit more prepared|1 Oh interesting hypothesis for sure Thank you for sharing|1 Well Less people less pollution This could potentially be the answer to the climate problem|0 Same It doesnt even seem like our state cares very much My neighbors sure dont|1 I suspect its the water pipes spreading the virus like how SARS was discovered infecting a residential building and recently with a lady 10 floors below an infected person due to modified water pipe strong speculation at the moment|1 No test kits available she said|0 I just cant go there It goes against everything I believe Yes he sure knows how to put the Dic in Dictator but that doesnt mean I want him dead|0 I understand hospitals and healthcare workers should also be a top priority but if we can ensure elderly care facilities are prepared it may actually reduce the load on hospitals vs having breakouts in this population|1 Spanish Flu killed 27 of the world population in 2 yearsthis is without robust modern travel by the way I think you missed a decimal point there|0 Fall into disarray What are you even imagining That only makes sense if you live in the coast of Louisiana and are getting ready for the next hurricane that is really going to destroy the entire city and stop supplies from reaching the sores Its not something that would occur anywhere else Or in Venezuela They had exactly those problems due to selfinflicted economic policies but thats a separate matter Its not crazy but it is a bit paranoid|0 Of course they can again I never said that can you please stop putting words into my mouth Im a virology student graduating next month so Im not stupid and I know what Im talking about Of course my age range has some risks but its considerably lower and the chance of myself ending up on the ICU is very low because I live a healthy lifestyle This doesnt mean that I go around hugging people carelessy and sniffing coughs because I dont want to 1 Get sick and 2 Spread it to others|0 May God be on your side go get protective equipment for yourself at Home Depot you can still find DuPont suits|1 Oh man All the bashing I did against the Chinese government US is just as fucking badEpic fail around the world humbling really|0 Same here Also noticed my heart racing for no reason at random times and a weird very very mild feeling of getting out of breath just doing normal things And then it all went away in 2 weeks These symptoms are so trivial and its impossible to get tested without presenting all the classic signs Kind of worrying|0 Like 20 of their country lives in one city Most the infections there ARE in one area|1 What Chinas government is one of the most brutal authoritarian dictatorships of all time They literally welded people in apartments buildings Massive Internet censorship They put people in concentration camps|0 Thailand isnt really saying anything about the status of the cases and hasnt set any restrictions on travel possibly because they dont want to lose tourism moneyAlso India is keeping watch on thousands of possible cases and theyve literally lost seven people that they were supposed to be monitoring for signs of the virus|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Some people would use the church bathroom but I think most people would go at home before or afterRegarding apartment complexes aerosol should not be transmitted from one floor to another There was something defective about Amoy Gardens plumbing system that allowed this to happen The Utraps were dried up httpsplumbingconnectioncomaunewreportprovesplumbinglinktosarshttpsplumbingconnectioncomaunewreportprovesplumbinglinktosars|0 Also the patient voluntarily reported his symptoms and travel history not because of severe symptoms but because of awareness of the situation in Wuhan If they start forcibly quarantining people all they do is discourage self reporting which is stupid for a disease that hasnt even really made anyone in North America gravely ill|0 A more realistic but less outlandish so less popular study has claimed 17 million instead which would make it 34 much closer to her numbershttpsacademicoupcomajearticle1871225615092383|1 Toss some hand sanitizer to your witcher|1 So am I My wife is all but begging me to find friends I can talk to but I feel like the entire conversation will revolve around this damned virus and how our governments are failing us|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 ehhh those estimates were saying the worst case scenarios which were basically the scenarios assuming an unadulterated R0 rate meaning literally zero precautions or mitigation efforts They might as well have said if all the farmers in the world stopped working 60 of you would starve in reference to a drought Obviously there will be measures to mitigate the worst of the damage in a developed nation A healthcare minister quickly corrected Merkel after she said that and said they predict at max predictions with current precautions 40000 Germans would die And that is not including future precautions like what Italy China Korea etc did I am just more at risk because I live in Brooklyn and have a huge amount of family members who are older who I would likely have to take care of if they got sick|0 1 if the government pays then we are all paying anyway just not upfront 2 people can not afford to miss work even people with good jobs and sick days often cant actually use them so people will minimize the disease and pretend they dont have it and they will certainly avoid being tested for it as long as possibleso they can continue to go to work which will of course just spread the virus around faster 3 Chinas government controls their economy so they can tell businesses to shut down to keep people from going to workthe US government can only recommend to businesses that they shut down many wont and their employees will continue going to work|1 Ive been spinning with anxiety about the virus and the state of the word this is encouraging|1 While SG hasnt gone to China extreme extent we do actively enforce quarantine though If anything the government believes that contact tracing and timely quarantining are more important than just testing everyone and personally I agree Essentially I think SG and SKs methods differ SG is closer to China or Vietnam going by published articles about each countries However whats important is to actively take action to contain the disease as much as possible regardless which method a country want to take|1 This is outrageous Im in NYC and live just blocks from the New York Presbyterian Hospital where the lawyer is currently in the ICU My distrust for government has grown tenfold over their handling of the virus Id be positive there are hundreds of people spreading the virus right now on public transit When the virus first was becoming known in China I scoffed at the corruption when I saw people were being refused testing It is perhaps worse right here now in the USA|0 People will start to get desperate soon and crime looting will as well Much like this entire thing has gone it just takes that first domino to fall I really hope they get this money out to people because some people are seriously struggling|0 Quite a few US writers were quick to defend 4 Now its wrong to not ban flights from infected regions|0 Laughs in Oregon|1 Well its mainstream even if it is often a bit trashy Theyre a strange news outlet a real mixed bag I would rather read newscomau any day of the week over The Australian|1 The news keeps perpetuating this misconception by saying stuff like wash your hands and stay indoors for the sake of the more vulnerable No one sadly gives a fuck about others when shit hits the fan They need to be reminding everyone that young people are in hospitals from coronavirus too So to those young healthy people that refuse to stay away from others or wash their damn hands Hope you like medically induced comas you little jerks|0 i mean breeder is a strange choice but the person does breed the virus P|0 Probably the best summary of the limited information we know about pregnant women and this virus The first couple examples are for MERS and SARS which had much higher fatality rates then covid19 so Id rate them with a big grain of salt Other than that this hasnt been around long enough to see how things turned out beyond the third trimester and that looks encouraging I thinkhttpswwwcontagionlivecomnewscovid19sarscov2andpregnancydoesthepastpredictthepresent|1 I cant help but touch my eyesnosemouthface either |0 I know one nurse who is still out and about and completely clueless about social distancing Hell I didnt know what it was until I came across an angry post about it|0 And fined for abandoning responsibilities will be docked from pto Praise bezos the one true billionaire Truly the greediest man alive|1 This is probably true for the poor passengers in steerage who dont have cabins with windows|0 thats the way to do it really smart i hope we pick it up quick it would limit exposure to uninfected patience and doctors in the hospital and if theyre sick send them to a predetermined quarantined area|1 Technically Poland as well|1 Thx|1 Exactly i think The USA is going go be ahead of the curve and better off than Europe I still think it is possible the usa gets shut down any day now The administration isnt down playing this situation any more|1 Thats why Tusli is still in the race In all seriousness Im not sure what would happen in that scenario Nothing good|0 Unfortunately there are a lot of unintelligent people out there running around in the world They would be lost without direction from those that have power over them They need people to tell them how to think and what to do everyday of their lives They cant make intelligent thoughts of their own The worst kind are the ones that are so incredibly dumb but think they are so much smarter than you are|0 including chloroquine phosphate formIts not chloroquine phosphate anymore in tissues Short not completely accurate version pharmaceutical salts are made because they are shelfstable denser in solution than freebase compounds and more readily absorbed Then they enter the digestive tract and you absorb phosphate ions and chloroquine|1 My mom is 70 diabetic obese heart problems not compliant and has dementia I was super happy her ALF went on lockdown even though after she may not know who I am I know shes as safe as can be Thank you for looking out|1 REI is doing this too They just won my business over going to Dicks or Gander Plus its a coop too|1 I dont usually comment on posts but this for some reason moved me I could fucking cry they are amazing people Im so proud of them and the risks they take every day to take care of others Gives me hope|1 Linguist here This supposed distinction was invented by 19th century grammarians Its not a real fact of English its a madeup shibboleth that only survives out of people repeating to feel smart|1 Nice dream|1 Thats awesome|1 Dont forget the billions the airlines are looking for Feck the many and bailout the few These airline CEO s get paid millions why dont they go without wages n give it to their staff|1 Look at httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200313defensenominationtrumployalty128244httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200313defensenominationtrumployalty128244If he was serious about fixing the problem he would want the best qualified people in key positionsI would like to think that if I were President and there were 2 nominees1 has the supreme technical chops to solve the coronovavirus but verbally abuses me on a daily basis and2 does not know how to solve coronavirus but kowtows to methat I would have the strength of character to choose the one that would save lives|1 Ive been following closely since mid February Washington state hereReddit has been far and away the most informative and best information I was able to get the meds food and TP I needed weeks ago and then self quaratinedYou guys are making a difference Does social distancing mean we cant have a congratulatory Reddit circle jerk|1 How big is the possibility that other countries will try to interfene in Iran Like send troops to keep the order And how big is the chance that the government might fall|1 Really So either youre part of the university and didnt give voice or part of the press and didnt publish You have privileged information It was your duty to speak up dude|1 Outbreak will stop in a couple of months there is no way you know that and is extremely optimistic will come back you in a couple see if youre still of that mindset|0 I think the US is going to do something similar The US absolutely has the system and resources to react very effectively to this outbreak but is so slow to actionThings are going to hit a breaking point and then well get our shit together Not ideal of course but better late than never at this point|0 Have you seen any of the Qubec conferences I would not say that they fit this definition|1 Just the flu guys just the flu|0 Yeah but from the perspective of the survival of our species its a good thing at the very young have such a low impact rate right now|1 Thank you for posting that number The govt said they were backlogged and thats a pretty damned big backlog|1 Ideas and ideals are great but theres another branch of the government youre not considering Congress will not Pay for these things I can see the pro side of these ideasideals but as a selfsupporting citizen I do not want to pay for my own AND your support tooEdit downvotes for truth Redditors are predictable in that way Congress as currently staffed would Not implement ANY of Bernies ideas Thats a real fact As for my real struggles to cover my own bills which include student loan debt that I knowingly signed up to receive and health insurnace premiums that are truly ridiculous and my not wanting to take on additional bills how is that a negative opinion asking for a downvote Makes zero sense|0 I just follow his account and check it everyday for updatesStay safe everyone and dont forget to wash your hands|1 According to this study homemade masks made of Teacloth made of TD Cerise Multi teacloths Blokker whatever the fuck that all is provide slightly better protection than no mask at allWhat is Teacloth Where can we get Teacloth Is there another cloth that might be similar and abundant old tshirts layered with bedsheets perhaps Is there anyone reading this that works with OSHA rated masks and understand this stuff It cant be that hard to make a maskHomemade masks arent great protection but its better than nothing So coming up with some sort of DIY mask instruction with shit most people have in their homes would be helpfulhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799|0 I think the CDC just simply does not have enough tests and I dont think theres an easy way to get more|1 You shouldnt trust any claim without asking them for sources if you cant handle being asked for sources dont make the claim what you did is correct x200BTry growing up|0 Thats terrible im so sorry for all these people because behind every death is a story and mourning family and friends2086 new cases is horrible and that scares me im living in Switzerland and we have also a lot new cases for our small country i follow the news closely because three close family members belong to the risk group our parlament did nothing for to long only now our parlament decide to close the schools at least three weeks also bars clubs and restaurants are only allowed to host 50 people i think Switzerland should have protect our border to Italy from the start of outbreak in North Italy|0 So what youre saying is the media has no motive to ratchet up the drama a little Its not like anybody is making money off the panic or anything There are laws against creating a panic Unless someone gettin paid of course httpsnypostcom20200317coronavirusbailouttocostmorethan1trillionmnuchinsays|0 and way less cute|1 Best of luck|1 I actually have 2 of these bad boy |0 Is it possible they are testing all pneumonia deaths right now for COVID19 Autopsy reports show cause of death as acute lung damage I would think deaths being caused by pneumoniacaused lung damage right now would be investigated|0 People like this who dont care if millions die as long as they themselves are fine|0 This is actually terrible The chance of a Uber driver getting infected is very high This is just so that they keep on drivingand dont stop in fear they are hoping the payouts will be lower than lost income to the companyIn JapanTokyo it was a cab driver who was one of the first infected In Thailand tooBangkok one of the very first confirmed infections was a cab driver A cab driver in Queens NYC just tested positive Its just a matter of time before more and more Uber drivers start getting infected They are just trying to protect the company they dont care about the driver at all|0 If you want more info on Coronavirus the CDC website has a plethora of information symptoms background current status in the US httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtmlFAQs about transmission httpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirushowitspreadshtml|1 Rabies certificate lol Rabies is so rare among dogs in the US Pretty much all of the cases are among wild animals And its pretty obvious if your dog has rabies they will be clearly unwell|1 KS My company yesterday implemented a full workfromhome status for those that arent physically vital Luckily I stocked up on food and TP before everything hit the news|0 Same in the Netherlands Its growing fast The big German cluster is just across the border and somehow its not cared about Like it would stop at the border |0 The map yes the data is more or less good httpsncov2019livedatahttpsncov2019livedata|1 Yes I have a meeting with 10 people I need them to form pairs and talk to each other about something and then bring their results to the bigger groupI need them to do it for 5 minutesAnd then seamlessly bring them back to the main roomI need to do it in 10 minutes again with different partners but this time two groups of 5This brings teams closer together and really gets them working virtually well on challenging problemsCant do that with hangoutsNeed to do that with hangouts|1 Thats the key question I hate these news updates that will obviously shock and scare people and they dont clarify if the change in reporting includes cases looked at over several days or just the last 24 hours|0 At what point are we at no return|0 Experts predict either next week or in two weeks if things do not change we can see a 911 everyday I pray that our government can get it under control by then|1 Not 100 sure but I think all deaths were reported accurately yesterday including Lombardy The numbers also suggest so it went from 160 yesterday to 200 today|0 Good to know that its hard Thanks|1 Shaking hands JUST SAY NO|0 That is what Im worried about Idk if I should take my allergies seriously and self quarantine to prevent others to get sick or if I should assume they are just allergies severe allergies Head pounding runny nose Random vomiting sore throat Or bad cold Its been a week and not going away|0 This makes me so thankful that Im home|1 Wtf happened to the video This shit gets sketchier every damn day Thank god someone recorded the transcript|0 Thanks Jack Ma My mans head is so big because of his massive brain httpsnypostcom20180910billionairejackmatoleavealibabanextyearamp|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 for anybody who is interested and not already there rPandemicPreps is an awesome place to hang outVery friendly and helpful no looking down on 1st time preppers|1 Lol found the brexiter Yes the problem is the eurozone if we were all just little pieces of shit we wouldnt be hit hard I wonder if history backs that up oh wait no it doesnt|0 as an overweight but otherwise perfectly healthy 26 year old the corona virus doesnt scare meHowever as someone who lives with their parents who are both over 65 it terrify me my brother just had an LVAD and has a very weakened immune system and his wife is fucking nutty and refuses to get any vaccines which only makes things worse since they have 2 kids who are sick all the time and it scares me if my older brother gets this shit and another illness on top of it which would give him abysmal rates of survivalImo the US needed to combat this shit as soon as it was apparent we had even 1 case in the US its way to late now for quarantines to really be that effective|0 I am saving every single email I get from companies that are listing the steps theyre taking to protect the public and employees My very first question will be do you provide your employees with paid sick leave and health insurance If their answer is no then they dont need my business any longer|0 Very illogical way to get your point across but ok|1 I understand the need for a disclaimer but Im asking about updates on clinical trials said to be underway Not for medial diagnosis or advice Thank you oh Sorry Im newish to reddit You were talking about the persons comment Not my post Ive added an edit anyhow to help ease the burden of moderation|1 Actually there is Good luck sleeping tonighthttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2851497This is SARS which is also a coronavirus immunity for 2 years Better than nothing|1 CIBC as well|1 It is horrible trying to talk to people and even more infuriating watching our governments and the WHO drag their feet Tedross said weeks ago the window of opportunity for containment is closing Well Sir I think it has closed and been locked Yet you are still dragging your feetstay safe people|0 You guys realize that higher number of infected means more asymptomatic cases means lower mortality right|0 Joe Bidens son is such a screw up he got kicked out|0 You know what really destroys an economy Millions dead|0 gg bro|1 Please be civil|1 The actual doubling rate of the virus is 34 days without measures and it can be taken into control to cancel doubling altogether by measures such as China HK SK and SP have done Whilst I share your joy of many measures being taken they are in no shape size or form comparable to what the former have musteredWe know for sure that roughly only half of the infected show symptomsWe know that the doubling rate has been quicker then the average incubation periodWe know that only a fraction of the half that has symptoms gets diagnosedAll this means is that numbers grow very very fast and our confirmed cases which many think equals cases is actually a subset of a half that was a population before there were one or more doublings Italy has enforced more and much stricter measures already and their situation keeps spiralling out of control bad Why would lesser measures here be enoughthe cancelling of events is a step in the right direction but the goal is very far We dont need to limit people going to only 500strong gatherings We everywhere that has ongoing transmission need to stop gathering altogether and keep the few groups that we gather with separate from the other small groups be they small groups containing family friends or neighbours And whatever number of people you assume would be risked in a vaccine experiment are in any case extremely likely to survive and we had 200 daily deaths in Italy alone and next week this time they will have 7001000 per day with much stricter measures already put in place weeks ago and enhanced since And Italy is just a single mediumsize country I agree on most things with you and working in Pharma field I live the need for safety qc proper procedures and the works This is so far and away out of the ordinary frame of reality that intuitive and otherwise radical measures are fine The rules were written for a different worldThis is an amazing document that I think everyone should see please consider reading ithttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca|1 WHat about possible death Even at a death rate of 02 I aint taking my chancesIve got no issue with death Its the dying part that scares me|0 No|0 Easier said then done especially if you are someone who has to take public transportation or are forced into situations where you have to be close to other people At those points having a face mask combined with proper hygiene is needed Its not just a coincidence that populations with high density like Asia all are using the masks in public combined with proper hand washing|1 Last I read its not gonna be free for foreign nationals Probably wont be insanely expensive though it will cost you maybe several thousand dollars|0 Have you seen the numbers in Italy Have you looked at all as the numbers begin to climb in Spain We have a window to build up preparations but all you have to offer is nonsensical semantic crap Who knows maybe the more people you convince the better it will spread Grow up and realize to some people this is not a joke I dont want to bury my parents because some kid is getting lols on the internet Also stop snorting oxytocin or dont and do the world a favor and have a really really good time|1 this is basic knowledge lmao Sorry that were not all scientists and reading every single reddit post|1 I agree Well saidWe are moving way too slow to avoid it|1 Yeah I mean just go on GoogleInstagram lol|1 Right The UN said that if we didnt contain it within 60 days itd go global and that Ebola was winning the battle|1 Whatever the White House has done nothing and theyre all out of ideas I never counted on the federal government for anything in my life and Im sure as hell not starting now|0 It is not the flu but thanks for playing|1 I go to a small college and two of my friends are traveling to Italy with no cares in the world Fingers crossed I guess|1 Still 3500 is not enough to cover the potential lifelong side effects Especially on a population less likely to have insurance or be diligent about their own medical care|1 You have to email your MLAs and do it every day They can close the schools and ban gatherings|0 Honestly man shout out to all the idiots in WA for ignoring this especially my peers Just because you dont have a confirmed case in your sleepy town does not mean it is not already here Not one mask no gloves no distancing and any conversation is met with trump or media as being the cause Sick of it|0 My grandparents 80 and 90 years old just took a cheap flight to Florida to have a vacation Theyve said that all the other people there think this is a big overreaction caused by media hype Im so sad for them|0 I originally read this as Prof of Cooked Books as in the Japanese man who died was the KING at fudging the numbers|0 Awwww Im just a wee jealous of your states common sense|0 Nah not dropped the ball blatantly and willfully ran interference ignored Standard Operating Procedures ignored warnings memos advice from Doctors Experts and Epidemiologists Cluster Record drops in stock market in Trump era lower employment growth than Obama Iran deal ripped apart had an impeachment trial greatest executive and director turnover of any presidency prolific compulsive delusional liar I mean these sound like made up sound bites but theyre all true Sigh I think unfortunately hell hold the disgusting repulsive title for greatest morbidities for any nonwartime presidency If he doesnt listen to the people in public healthcare not big pharma large insurance companies that requires a drastic departure from his standard shock and awe style of governing|0 No theyre heavier droplets that fall to the ground for the most part As far as we have seen at least|0 I think universities will stay open Its been relatively easy to transfer everything to online only|1 They do change the count though when one of those asymptomatic cases transitions into symptomatic That number of 4 used to be 5|1 I wish I could And I may very well blurt it out eventually But her usual response to me being stressed or worried is irritation or outright anger Its her coping mechanism I guess Deep down she still believes in the medical system because its what she knows so she doesnt really get the whole chronicinvisible illness thing Until the recent BP thing shes been ridiculously healthy so shes used to doing what she wants Shes not going to change Any attempt to make it about me or Dad or my pets because if anything happens to me theyre screwed would not go well|0 Japan has diagnosed several new cases over the last few days with no link to the cruise ship or other known cases Singapore has around 8 cases they cant trace Points to community spread|0 nah|0 Yeah its a ridiculous statement to tell a parent of young kids to relax right now|1 I googled a bit Apparently there are worries it might be bad during pregnancy chloroquine is genotoxic that there is uncertainty about the carcinogenic risk and that it has an impact on fertility and teratogenic effects defects f tolethal in rats but on the other hand in humans This molecule has been widely used in Africa for decades and no malformations have been observed httpswwwlemondefrsciencesarticle20200317lachloroquineunepistepourluttercontrelesarscov260333641650684htmlAlso in common with other things it can be bad if kids eat it I got some and read the leaflet and the only really bad human story was a three year old managed to eat four pills chloroquine 250mg and die of the overdose|0 Amazing that Republicans enjoy bullshitting anything and everything until it rises to the level of a global fucking pandemic|1 Thats logical but we have strict patient data laws here Im in Healthcare and would definitely not reveal a patients gender without getting an Okay from our compliance expert At that point Id be comfortable with it because I can probably blame it on them if it wasnt actually legal So even if its completely legal to share that information Id expect people to be slow on doing so since I think most of us dont understand the nuance to the laws and basically understand it to be DONT SHARE PATIENT INFORMATION|1 With our current understanding of antibodies and similar viruses it would be significantly less likely that immunity didnt occur than did Prevailing theories around positivenegativepositive tests include weakened immune system loss of B cells viral load lowered and then back up bad test etc|0 I wouldnt be surprised if hospitals are all implementing contingency plans as we speak to prepare Everyone knows its coming so it wont be such a shock when it does I know someone whos a physio at a hospital and theyve been told they will become a nurses helper and the physio work will stop entirely so everyone there will be helping in one way or another They probably have plans for which rooms will be converted and how to handle it Call me an optimist but we might come out of this better than Italy|1 Doubt it Canada is very insistent on protecting the identities of these people so they dont get targeted|0 Still open But theyve posted some reassuring Facebook pictures of custodians cleaning|1 The virus is rapidly spreading and they know it is going to get worse before it gets better It makes perfect sense They have learnt from SARS|1 Hero|1 Genetic analysis of the strain found in Seattle and comparison to strain in Wuhan According to the researchers it has very likely been in Seattle for about 6 weeks around the first confirmed case a couple weeks ago other than the Everett case in Jan|0 I know with a hundred delegate deficit and only like three thousand delegates up for grabs the race is basically over s|0 And also they dont fake their numbers|1 I would think the countries we have good relationships with would share their designs for kitstests but even if not we should be more than capable of both designing and manufacturing We have a hell of a lot of incredibly smart peopleI just dont get it|1 Yep Im sure I was in Alexis Nihon shopping center and it was packed|1 Whys there a shortage of socialmedia coming out of the quarantine zone suddenly|0 Chinas Fifty Cent Army which wages an endless PR campaign wins another skirmishAt least 10 of the comments and downvotes on ChinaFlu are from regulars in the 50 ArmyThese d ays theyre trying to change the subject off of ChinaThis epidemic wont be over until EVERY city in China looks like Wuhan or a vaccine is developed whichever comes first|1 I tried playing hard mode The first thing I did was infect Greenland first just outta spite|0 Or even both lmaooo Thank you for the laugh|1 Why not both One site suitable for retweet by a public official and one that is more strongly worded that regular people can send It is a very good collection of information that is succinctly stated I would love to share this but many people I know would not only ignore the message but would be angry with me for sending them something obscene|0 False That was 2 years ago And also Fired may be a little strong but in 2018 top national securityofficials handling pandemicsleft abruptly and were notreplaced by the Trump administrationAs for funding theres no question that the Trump administration sought to cut key CDC budget categories But thanks to Congress that funding was restored and even increased in bills that Trump ultimately signedhttpswwwpolitifactcomfactchecks2020feb28michaelbloombergdiddonaldtrumpfirepandemicofficialsdefundcdBefore you start spreading lies like others have been doing about this|1 This Particularly Drug Ford who took away many legal rights of workers like sick pay without notes etc Fuck them We all need to vote them out once and for all next time|1 Guaranteed death|0 But you never said that You claimed that Chinese media lied about the numbers in the US You were proven wrong Just give it up|0 I havent been out since I learned of the need for goggles but I will be doing so going forward Thank you for your concern|1 We humans do our best work when shit gets real|1 This based on what evidenceThe epidemic statistics observed in other countries pretty much match what China has been reporting after the initial censoring If anything they helped us prepareOfc there are also reasons to be angry because they allowed it to start in the first place by authorizing the wet markets but such a world crisis was meant to happen in a way or another and probably will again|0 Ah yess the greatest country in the world|1 DenialismIn the psychology of human behavior denialism is a persons choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable realityIn the sciences denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed wellsupported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject in favor of radical and controversial ideas The terms Holocaust denialism and AIDS denialism describe the denial of the facts and the reality of the subject matters and the term climate change denial describes denial of the scientific consensus that the climate change of planet Earth is a real and occurring event primarily caused by human activity The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and the generation of political controversy with attempts to deny the existence of consensusThe motivations and causes of denialism include religion selfinterest economic political or financial and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Aint that the truth Part of my job is getting surgical sets ready and shipped or replenished and returned in a timely manner By timely manner I mean the hospital has two of these sets and needs this one sent out on Monday evening received by us on the other side of the country by Tuesday morning processed replenished inspected packaged shipped and arrived by Wednesday morning to be cleaned and used by 3pmI can imagine why a crematorium used to treating general cases would need a sudden dump of extra hazmat bags even if the numbers were accurate|0 Bunch of negative people in this thread A company is doing something good for people that has to spend every living minute in their home for some weeks and yall act like its a sin to masturbateGrow up|0 The L strain S strain thing turns out to be bad science httpswwwabcnetaunewshealth20200306coronavirustwostrainsinfectionstudy12023822httpswwwabcnetaunewshealth20200306coronavirustwostrainsinfectionstudy12023822|0 I use them about 100 times a year Great point system and mostly good flight attendants over a first class option any day|1 Believe the interpretation presented here is high fever more likely the disease is severe development of ARDS but the stronger the immune reaction leading to a higher fever and subsequent better immune response Im assuming that those who develop pneumonia with a low fever are either not going to experience ARDS or in the cases that would create this effect not having a strong enough immune response to combat the virusPlease someone correct me This is merely my interpretation of this and this comment serves to inspire conversation rather than concretely answer questions|1 Nope back when the first stories were circulating and the government was looking at it they started putting out stupid shit on the news saying its just a flu bro|0 Unless you need to win reelection Older people vote more|1 Things like gas yes Such laws might not apply to Amazon since its generally interstate commerce|1 It can stop new chains of transmission from coming in Same as a cordon sanitaire within a country Unless the Chinse are totally and utterly lying it worked in WuhanETA Plenty of experts think the SE FI US strategy is insane This site got hugged to death but heres a thread about a letter from 200 uk scientists begging the goverment to reconsider its inaction httpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfiponq245ukscientistssignletterdemandingstronger|0 Fucking subreddit Lol Im sure this wont spread misinformation at all|1 Honestly Id just call in sick If you claim flulike symptoms they probably wont want you to come in If they want you to come in anyway just quit Youll find another job and the next employer might treat you with dignity|1 Sounds like Apple is doing unpaid also|1 Thank you China You guys are heroes|1 All my best best wishes to you and everybody there You havent mentioned masks but if you need masks to go out to shop Read thisDo It Yourself masks AND face shields designed by scientists in HK Though very inexpensive the scientists found that kitchen paper towels are similar on the microscopic level to the inner layers of surgical masks and the super easy face shield adds another layer of safetyLots of info at the linkfhttpswwwconsumerorghkwsennewsspecials2020maskdiytipshtml|1 Same thing in New Zealand They started a travel ban on travelers from China but then started getting cases from Iran and Americatheres hardly any safe countries and affected countries anymore|1 5 was just an example I mean they dont keep many more of a certain product than they expect to sell every day whatever that number is As opposed to large grocery stores in the US where theres usually 1000 cans of beans on the shelves even if they only like 50 a day|1 May want to edit your comment write it was a joke because people take the smallest info from here and run with it|1 What we need is all of Europe to implement the lockdown Then the countries who have not been overwhelmed really could bring in critical patients from Italy Instead no one wants to bring in patients because they know they will be in the same situation which is because they will not lockdown proactively to stop this|0 So a couple days ago an Iranian nurse reports on twitter that 8 people died of the Wuhan virus in one night one of which was a woman age 23 with no preexisting conditions and we are just now hearing what seems to me that same woman and if it isnt that would mean 2 woman at age 23 died with no preexisting conditions does this sound about right Iran is most likely spreading out their dead count as well so people dont get alarmed at the sudden spikes in death|0 No You cant use TOTAL cases to find ANY rate whether it be hospitalization or mortality You can only use end results|0 Id have to hold down the screenshot buttons On my iPhone Guess Ill teach my kid that Does it call 911 at that point |0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 They did not even wreck their economy At the end of the day they still have the worlds greatest industrial complex and the US has to buy from them because we cannot make it ourselves China will be fine|1 Agreed Some people cant process fear other than to bury their head in the sand about what is causing that fear The angriest people about coronavirus news seem to be the most deeply afraid of it consciously or subconsciously Our amygdala is what we process news like this through There is a lot of interesting research people can look into that would partially explain why some people seem so adverse to being able to cope with the reality of Covid19 Bottom line is at 48 years old I have found that most anger people have ultimately has some sort of fear as its source|1 I think so I hope so I think Ive texted him something to the effect of omfg come home already every day Were in tour 20s so not too worried but I dont want to spread it to our families etc|1 Yeah I thought we always knew some mild cases were still pretty harsh but I guess not everyone did Mild just means you can get over it at home doesnt mean its like the common cold kind of mild|0 Yes Read from your future in Italy today httpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhe|1 The good thing is its an old and relatively inexpensive medication so it will be easy to produce and affordable to distribute Short term side effects are usually minimal and if only used for an illness not a chronic condition the potential bad long term side effect isnt a concern|0 Wuhan locked down at 400 confirmed cases and they still shot out of control We should be locking down completely right now No need to wait until the point that Italy did so|0 Thank you Very helpful information|1 Oh so they basically decoded the DNA sequence of the virus in 2 days Like the person above me said its already been sequenced by other countries why not jointly fight this global epidemic Seems like pointless black slapping by the Italian media if you ask me|1 Head of the science department too They should lose their job for that alone|0 Yeah wasting resources and less importantly Spreading it literally everywhere you go in the meantime|1 Their accent is recognized Seriously Come on No way no how Clearly this is propaganda bc Americans do not know what area of China someone is from based upon their accent That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard|0 This can happen with colds and flu too A school friend died of a virus when she was 25 Last year a friend ended up with permanent heart damage due to a virus Both previously healthyThe risk with COVID19 is definitely increased for every age group but it is still relatively low for people under the age of 60|0 A choice the old have and with honor always will sacrifice themselves for But we arent there yet Right now our goal is to prevent this virus from spreading any further Drastic decisions about who lives and who dies dont need to be made yet|1 Thank you for helping debunk the tired cliche that Chinese people are naturally good at math|1 Other than test having false negatives maybe its also due to viral load not being high enough earlierI wonder how the virus is identified in these tests Antibody against certain markers|1 The is really no point in talking to incoherent jackasses this thisMaleman theyll just regurgitate some of the shit that their media has crammed down their throat back at you and feel victimized that someone doesnt agree Youre wasting your breath talking with this moron|0 Ive talked to my mom in assisted living Visited her today and told her if she has ANY problems breathing hit that pendant they wear Dont bother with me until they have you on oxygen|0 This random lady sounds more presidential than that last dumb fuck that was talking lol|0 Im not a doomsayer or a prepper Im a strategist and Im looking a few steps ahead down the road Im sure your office is fine and you will be safe for nowI do have some extra supplies because I am planning ahead for multiple possible scenarios Worst case scenario Im okay Best case scenario this gets donated to food bank because it wasnt needed Myself and my family are all in the risk category so we have to be extra careful and if things go bad any time you leave your home to have to go out and get something you put everyone in your home at riskI think youre underestimating the threat this virus is not just in itself but in how it will affect the global supply chain It already is most car manufacturers only have a few weeks of work left because many parts are from locked down places same with electronics This is just the very start of things too dont forget My country Canada isnt taking this anywhere near as seriously as they should they are betting against it and if they lose this bet a lot of lives will be lostAll that said I hope you are right and I am wrong Stay safe and healthy|1 Not yet announced by the UK authorities Probably didnt want the media and other interested parties descending on the place before they have time to prepare ie cordoning off the school transporting the patient from their house to hospital etc|1 Yeah I like to be able to be outside in the fresh air daily but I really can do with out seeing people daily or having to be extroverted around acquaintances that love the daily bustle|1 fuck this is going to get so bad|0 Make sure to write in your letter By the way I licked this envelope but I know youre not concerned because Id be able to get tested if you were right |1 Privileged social group Ummm people have worked hard to become teachers and continue to work hard in the profession If you think teachers are part of a privileged group then think again|1 Also one easy and plausible response to strangers Im on my 4th round of chemo so a common cold is a danger to me I live alone and have no other choice but to risk coming out to get basic supplies Id appreciate your compassion |1 If they notice a spike in coldflu at a location that is beyond the normal background expectation it will trigger an alarm Its all about statistics As long as the reporting is dependable and accurate it is a well grounded approach|0 If you want more science head over torcovid19|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17711 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices203449 uDawid5796 at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 If this is true this means contact tracing could be a really effective method of containing this and that we still have a good chance at containment before it becomes pandemicIf we can isolate the vast majority of the super spreaders by isolatingquarantining every close contact we can identify we can drastically reduce the spread of this If a few regular cases slip outside of the contact tracing net it wont have as much of a significant impact as if all cases had the same infectiousness Really hoping that something like this is the case|1 Somewhat of an anxiety post But should we be most worried Whether or not this is true many people are Yet realistically were yet to see or know the true concerns that will be of an issue to each of us individually|0 badly vented indoor events with close contactAnd cruise shipsSo outdoor events are safer Eg Coachella|0 This is the Canadian Healthcare System its broken and understaffed and has been for years My mother has worked in a hospital or care home all her adult life and she would pull 18 hour shifts this isnt uncommon Our already ATPAST capacity healthcare system will not be able to keep up with the already sick more sick They are going to have to make some tough choices seriously We can run out of oxygen tanks not have enough IVs available This IS scary My emergency wait time in the middle of the afternoon on a Monday is 4 hours plus people will still be hurt have heart attacks strokes other health issues this massive virus and the effect it has on compromised immune systems sick and elderly|0 Finally some good news|1 Same Gloves and Ive been using wipes for the pin pads and stuff but thats about all I can do lol Good luck lol|1 I stocked upall weekend Fuck Im 62 and I teach school Im gonna die|0 I mean its great that they are helping Italy but that just doesnt erase all the terrible things they have done in the recent past|0 Bro thats the CDC patenting the original SARS after isolating and sequencing it AFTER the outbreak Check dates I guess they own it but they didnt make it|1 Yeah thats how it first got to Ireland theres a lot of people having to cancel short trips now|1 Good one |1 Ive been wearing gloves and today started wearing a mask I did have a few customers saying that was a good idea but the majority ridiculed me for it|0 This manager in particular publicly shares his opinions on politics but refuses to comment on what plan he has for how the team will deal with the virus outbreak As a manager do you think its to do with poor planning or financial reasons|0 I only have enough PTO for two and a half days because I just finished the probation period at my new job which is for city government of a large west coast city My job classification is labeled nonessential so Id lose most of my income unless there was some sort of arrangement to pay employees that cant WFHIt feels shitty because Im the receptionist really my whole job could be automated anyways without the tasks that are tied to our building Hell even a good portion of my computer have to do with office management I cant even transfer calls from a nondesk computer thats within our citys networkId be okay with it especially since my job sucks but only because I have just enough savings for three months rent A lot of my friends work in food service I used to for years so I cant help but think of them Very little to no PTO and most bosses would still demand you come in Ive witnessed it in more than one disaster|0 Inovio says it will produce a million doses this yearFor further clinical trials or emergency use not to be rolled out to the public In their timeline they have planned out a 56 month clinical trial on 30 adults before they start production Just because they start production does not mean the thing is safe as 56 months on 30 adults is too short of a time on too few people it is not a full clinical trialWhat they are doing is starting production if things look good 56 months into the reduced clinical trial If results at that time are good they would then start production with the aim to complete a full clinical trial with more people before rolling it out There is no way 56 months is sufficient on its own 14 months is what has been mooted as the time for a super rushed full clinical trial|1 There are a bunch of laws on school days student achievement length of school day and just about everything else Until those laws are addressed or the Gov declares and emergency in your state and orders it these schools are stuck|0 Thats a off put way of saying 25 died|0 Its a food you eat with your bare hands anyway Im having trouble understanding why someone would complain|0 You should be writing to Boris and saying the same No one is going to sacrifice their home and feeding their children because they have a mild fever or cough People are poor in this country and a pay check means food on table and bailiffs from door This poor bloke has come on here because he is being made to choice between a losing a job and following guidelines I know which one I would choose Yes It might be right in refusing to go to work and losing my salary but unfortunately moral standing does not put food on table and roof over my head Sorry to say but like Boris said be prepared you will lose loved onesEdit Italians have come out with data showing 45 of confirmed cases had no symptoms so you without a cough is nearly as likely to have it as someone with cough if no links to confirmed case|0 On parliaments website theres petitions and one of them is this thats all Ive found that you can do Other than maybe convincing people to close their shops and such|1 Currently anyone traveling domestically need to be quarantined for 14 days when they arrive at their destination and anyone arriving from overseas also require mandatory 14 days quarantine I dont think this will be lifted anytime soon|1 Yep|1 Some people need to grow a brainAnd stop overdosing on PC culture|0 I never voted for this weak leader The signs have always been there I doubt this scenario crossed into the minds of most voters|0 Weird silver lining about being a nation of fat fucks is we Americans carry our preps on our bodies Most cities have 35 days of food but Americans will take longer to starve|0 Relax everybody its just the token USA is terrible comment you have to get in every reddit thread Nothing to see here move along|0 This is literally a coronavirus subreddit Im not sure what you expected|0 I never thought that China would be cooperating but glad that theyre doing their best to try and help|1 Cause they care more about business and trade|1 isnt that a nice thought to start start the week with|0 Yeah good Okay Hope the housing market crashes again so you lose more money trying to sell your other house|1 Normalcy bias is a helluva a thing|0 Govt creditors will without one Beneficiaries must be 18 years old or older|0 It is too early we may not know of other cases rather than there being no other cases|0 Yes this is an example of a tragedy of the commons and it is the role of government to step in for precisely these situations httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiTragedyofthecommons|0 unfortunaty few people buy this no need to wear masks please believe in science they said|0 Ok jarhead You can quote where I complained because I didnt This is why nurses make more than soldiers|0 im not assuming anything in fact if you check my post history youll see i said a couple days ago that maybe half the tests are coming up positive|1 We are low risk my friend the government says so Have faith s|1 The Chinese gov promised to provide free healthcare for anyone with Coronavirus Maybe the US gov would do something similar|1 Did he have health problems though You dont just go to a nursing home in your 50s for no reason Not trying to deny that the US is handling this badly just want to get the story straight|0 Oh is that a conspiracy as wellAnd what if I was one of them would I then just be lying|0 Like|1 You have to slow it down because if you have too many cases at the same time eventually the country will run out of hospital beds for those who need them thats the reason why here in Italy the government is trying everything they can to contain it to avoid a collapse of the sanitary system Its difficult to tell whether this is working or not but at the very least we have to try|0 Have to disagree This was a stupid fucking question|0 Wtf did WHO lie in the press conference|0 I sincerely hope that people who have to continue to go into work to maintain supply chains and infrastructure get compensated with hazard pay andor a federal stipend Good luck your husband is one of the people keeping us out of total anarchy right now|1 Derp Yeah my bad on the paper Forgot where I was replying|0 Yeah but the smart ones will act like they didnt prepare just like everyone else|1 Ah duh Sorry|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Stock up now on food and supplies Id be terrified living in a place with no land shipping routes or manufacturing like that|0 Im from Germany and I have No doubt that from a medical point we really have nothing to fear Its more about the political things that could be done way better But that is a different topicAlways happy to hear some positive news in this times|1 Ive had the symptoms of it for 5 days but because I havent traveled I got denied the ability to test|1 Better safe than sorry though Even if you cant see the data its not horrible to assume its pretty bad play it safe|1 My major issue is also post nasal drip That leads to my asthma being much worse and my vocal cords to always be inflammed I tell the doctors I feel like I drown They dont care Anti LPRGERD treatment has done nothing What somewhat worked was turbinate surgery I had to take sleeping pills to sleep but my pulmonologist thought that everything was fine and I just had anxiety My fucking vocal cords were drowning in mucus but she just didnt careIf you live in the US and you have uncontrollable rhinitis there are still some doctors that do corticosteroid injections in your nasal cavity These injections stop all nasal symptoms in most of the patients|0 8 weeks is the hopeful but potentially realistic scenario Its less of some of the fear mongering you see on here and more of what the hospitals need If we spread the peak rather than a sudden explosion hospitals wont go beyond capacity and be forced to make hard decisions beyond whats necessary Obviously this virus is not disappearing in 8 weeks maybe not even for a yearBut this 8 week number is centered on every health care system Every country on Earth has a finite amount of supplies and doctorsnursesaides that can work I think some people dont understand that the primary goal is to soften the blow as much as possible to them If you catch COVID19 say in September if its still circulating the health system wont be in crisis mode and could properly treat you without needing to make the ultimate decision on who does and doesnt get that respirator This is why states will have to go big on restrictions soon since asymptomatic carriers will just be a chain connecting a singular person to a vulnerable person Basically 8 weeks could be a minimum but I think the sub is getting carried away with the length of things like restrictions I do expect schools to delay further however|1 Why are western countries dangerously ignorant Post your answer A Leaders are misinformed and think this is really just a flu B They know the virus will cross the borders and infect most of the people anyway or it probably already did so they try to keep the economy running until the wheels will inevitably fall off C Secretly they have a cure for it that they will introduce when the virus starts causing any significant problem in the west D They think their citizens are genetically much less likely to have severe symptoms E They knew about the outbreak in advanve and somehow they have already immunized most of their citizens against COVID19 F They want the virus to spread and cause maximum damage G They know that they should do something they are just too dumb and lazy to get things done H Some other reason|0 Signed Get that cunt out of here|0 The estimates are that only 5 10 of those infected are actually getting testedSource please|0 Why are you trying to spread fear Only people who have been taken to hospital are treated thats a good thing Maybe hundreds of thousands people have it then the morality rate would be super low AmazingUndetected cases means even more mild cases who recover not ONLY more deaths That means the fucking virus isnt as bad as everyone is saying Stop saying good news fakeBad news in a few weeks 90 will die LULULUL the only truth I hate this sub|0 No She only worked part time for a month She doesnt qualify|0 my work held a meeting today and the complete dismissal of the situation from the owner of the company i work for led the two of us to get in an argument and i stormed out they suspended me until thursday|0 So I went out earlier this week to the dollar store to buy cleaning supplies for my bathroom Never got around to it Now I have Lysol gloves and a mask Im gonna save it Thats all I have my mom doesnt take me seriously wont buy extra supplies|1 I dont know Im excited to watchFrom afar|0 Please apply for unemployment i have heard it is helping people|1 So sad I sell on Amazon and am in a group with other sellers A lot of them were talking about charging insane amounts for mask Only a few of us spoke up about how that is wrong Our highest individual seller bragged about how he is willing to charge as much as someone is willing to pay|0 For the life of me I cant understand how the USA is so rich but when I read stories like this it seems so poorThink of the united states like Brazil or Russia Unimaginable wealth at the top widescale poverty and social dysfunction everywhere else|1 While true I think now is finding the time I need to get through my backlog That said I found that the games I am becoming more interested in are shorter quicker experiences that dont require a lot of time investment Recently it was 198X for the Switch Most people said it was too short but for 10 bucks it was a fun little game that kept me busy for a little more than an hour|1 Yeah man pretty sure one guy infected 130 people on that boat so your point is|1 So I am a newbie here to get fresh info about the virus This is insane Hand sanitizers are a staple around the house coz of the toddlers And even the affordable ones are running out in my goto online shop|1 Was it worth it ASSHOLES|0 Pretty stark statement from a Kaiser nurse in NorCal who got sick after caring for a coronavirus patient criticizing CDC for delays in testing publisher mattdpearce links in tweet httpsiimgurcomrWXlJm3png|1 How will the testing work I know the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has talked about delivering test kits to doors thank you for that|1 I just had this conversation I wonder if my JetBlue hot towel has coronavirus on it Me Oh well the Asian airlines stopped handing those out a month ago I AM ALL KNOWING|1 We only do the best most perfect disasters Katrina Maria PfftTrump will show the nation a real disaster|1 I have wonder that as well how long can you reasonably shut everything down for At what point does economic ramifications outweighs the health ones Im not smart enough to figure it out but I hope someone is|1 I have had China deaths told to me are way less than flu deaths in America this season so its nothing to worry about but literally no one to possibly a small percent of immunity|0 Wow Thanks for the post A lot to think about|1 Much more rarely though and probably not becoming entrenched in large urban centers Compare SARSCoV2 to MERS Nipah virus or hantavirus they infect typically more rural areas with less dense population and less population connectivity because thats where the reservoir animals are Whereas bringing those animals into urban centers often alive and in diseasepromoting conditions is a category change in terms of riskIf your response to banning the exotic game trade is that well outbreaks could still happen then youre dissembling|1 Its so funny I live in NY and we have the most cases yet nothing like this is being done I dont understand it at allWe get the elected officials we deserve In California we get those speaking virtuous sounding platitudes into office than busy themselves with something while benefits go unfunded and the state crumbles Then the rascals point to political opponents and blame them for the resulting problems caused by their policies Im shocked to see something productive happen and cautiously looking for the post911 style power grabI presume NY is governed much the sameAt some point have to abide by the time honored American tradition and throw the rascals out Always be the strictest task master with the party that represents your interests Allowed to do so they will happily sail your interests down the river as it makes their job easier Have to periodically remind them where the interests their votes come from may be foundAlways be wary of social harassment and pressure designed to turn it into a team sport This dismantles the mechanism to keep the rascals honest Politics is not a team sport|1 There is no way to handle this thing properlyMoney doesnt produce miracles|0 I love kitty1 the time to pull your children out of school was 2 weeks ago every 225 days your chances of infection double exponentially so its imperative that you make an executive decision for the well being of you and and your loved ones today Lets go by what we know the virus has at least a two week incubation and an RO of 47 that means every person infected in turn infects 47 other people so the numbers which represent the lowest possible number of people infected should be compounded by a ratio of 47 going at least 2 weeks back Dont wait until its close because by then youre already infectedI gave this same spiel in another thread and by the time I had finished and posted it the OP had just found out that his managers wife had it and he was exposed if you check my comments you can see for yourself Im not trying to be a doomsayer at the same time this is not a test I repeat this is not a testThe GovCDC Local Hospitals will not save you They cant You have to take responsibility for you and your loved ones health May god protect you and keep you safe|1 Im a happy REI customer and love their REI branded items but other brands are listed at MSRP which is a bit of a bummer For stuff like The North Face and Columbia its cheaper to shop discounted items on the Sierra website|1 Its confusing because the CDC has been conflating paper surgical masks like in the photos with actual N95P100 respirators which you could find at Home Depot Of course a respirator will protect youThe surgical masks are so doctors dont accidentally spit into an open wound theyre not respirators that protect you I never heard the gov make this distinction|1 No clue why Im being downvoted the article literally says this Ill edit my post above|0 Im interested in this link as well|1 yeahits a great poster but using Uncle Sam as a representative for stay the fuck home is an oxymoron Our government hasnt really been pushing that|0 Sad but true that the best way to curb pollution is just to turn everything offThe only time in the past few decades where CO2 emissions did not increase globally was in the midst of the recession of 2008|1 In Chile we doubled the cases in one day we were at 75 yesterday at 155 today And the temperatures are in the 30s CelsiusSchools are closed daycare is closed most unis are closed People in retirement homes or kids in communal homes are restrained from going out And of course no visitors at all for them eitherSome mayors have closed all of their malls and non vital shops From wednesday on there will be no more travel to or from chile only cargo No air land or sea travel at allRight now we are starting the vaccination campaing spelling Against influenza and everywhere there is chaos Hordes of old people asking and shouting to get vaccinated My primary care center is absolutely overwhelmed|0 Sure the US isnt a beacon of freedom but you would absolutely not get arrested in most of Europe|1 they are not buying mansions with their pay but I heard disney does have very good health care coverage and pays a decent rate|1 Wait seriously|0 CC People with reading disabilities would appreciate some headerstitles for sections so they can scan the text more easily and only read the part they are interested in|1 USMC Veteran here its better than starving to death Ill be the first to admit its trash foodGet creative with it I made a hot chocolate once using that disgusting chocolate cake and hot water Mostly mush but better than eating it dry|1 Would like to share a post If thats possible Or should I just post on this thread Thank you|1 This doesnt address the multiple tests needed for a positive test Sure it makes it quicker but itll still take a day or more to do multiple tests thtough|1 Thank you all I hope for health and safety for you and yours|1 if one good things comes out of this is a new sanity check on our supply chain If we do it right China will take a huge hit and America can prosper But the question is will Americans be ok to spend more for American made products than Chinese made products Just imagine the change at your local Walmart|1 I think some people are just adamant about keeping society from breaking down and avoiding general panic Its also important to review and compare data aswell this nCov is a virus just like the influenza virus there is legit reason to compare them|0 The numbers are skewed No one can measure the infected with 100 accuracy but can get pretty close to it if the government follows what South Korea is doing right now They have set up drive through testing centers all around the quarantined city of Daegu They have set up alert apps that track where the infected had been for the past 48 hours and actively disinfecting those sites All of their citizens are self quarantining based on provided information and their local economy had been pretty much shut down until further notice All of their tests and treatments are paid for by the government so far And THATS how you clean shit up in the long run|1 x200BDate 7DTested TPositive T Increase DTotal Tested DTotal Positive D Positive D6Mar203381632255482137Mar2146020626381122433838Mar2351327332522053673269Mar24960319168514474631810Mar26261373169313015441511Mar27476456222512158368312Mar2976459029392288134586|1 Well your comment explains everything You are a child|1 Basically you want to prep your immune system to ensure it functions properly Vitamin D and Zinc are common deficiencies that supress the TH1 immune pathway that stimates the CD8 killer cells Instead you get a TH2 response that leads to neutrophil infiltrationcytokine storm Sleep is also critical to immune system funtion Immunology 101|1 Wow thats productive|1 THAT by itself is still a massive failure by this administration|0 If Global containment failed after several months were basically going to a New Era of living|0 Airlines are all making exceptions right now and allowing you to change or cancel for some without being penalized for it This is for domestic and international I canceled my fight to FL for next month For work for a full refund and no ticket insurance through American Airlines|0 i was just telling my wife they will have to do this and will actually profit|1 no we should eat poor children|0 The US government is trying to think of a way to save the economy AND deal with this pandemic That isnt an option Just deal with the fact the dow jones will eventually go below 15 or 10k in staggering drops Deal with it billionairesWaive mortgages so landlords can waive rent Think time out at recess time Pause resume Push everything back No interest added just push dates back Consider the same for utility billsIs it radical Yes But when reality is radical radical actions are appropriate and necessary|1 For western nations the economic impact of the global economy taking a dump might do more damage than the virus Those arent just makers of stuff they are also customers By the time Western nation are potentially faced with outbreaks they cant control there probably will be MUCH better treatments In my opinion this has become all about delay major outbreaks while we develop treatments not that we really have any chance of stopping it|0 Healthcare workers so often seem to not give a shit about human lives I once brought a guy who had blood and pus dripping from his eyeball and fever to the ER they told him to go to sleep because it was probably pink eye or something I took him to a different ER he had a brain infection that had become a septicaemia They told me he wouldve died that night without urgent surgery|0 I would only shame them for not having prepared last month|0 just ask China to give their info on the virusit is their bio weapon after allif they gave the info to UK reasearchers they could make a vaccine in a month|0 Insanity is harder to cure and raises infectivity|0 Tribalism His side won Red tribe rule for many moons until the great deciding in November|1 Ok I go to sleep nowbye guys|1 Pretty much nothing these people are just antivaxers who try to find any tiny thing that they can use to say its not that bad just wash your hands|1 So die of starvation and cold because of missing bills|0 I pretty sure that they have been ignoring that to high hell|0 I work for a similar store can confirm We were shorted TP cleaning supplies etc We also received very little 91 or 70 Isopropyl alcohol but suddenly were sent loads of useless 50 The worst part is that even that instantly sold out and people were walking out feeling relieved|0 Crazy how this dude goes out of his way to help the US the total opposite of what is offered by our lame government|0 Could CPAP machine be an alternative treatment I know it wont pull air our of the lungs like a ventilator but it is still something|1 Those are all very good points Thank you for posting|1 A case of a stomach virus which has a low R0 on a cruise ship last year infected 500 people in 48 hours Prisons cruises nursing homes tend to be horribly bad for viruses specifically for one reason they have laundryfood delivery people going to every single area All it takes is one infected laundry worker to spread the virus to everybodies laundry All it takes is one infected person to infect a food delivery person often because they have to touch everybodies doorknob and then when they get infected spread it to everybody in the shipward by touching everybodies doorknob In normal life we do our own laundry and we do our own food We go to our own apartment we dont touch every single doorknob of our apartments Neighborhoods dont have the same 5 people delivering food to everybody We do have food delivery guys but they do 12 deliveries at a time and they usually dont handle the food directly Also its not just one church services its multiple church services The virus likely contaminated tons of surfaces through repeated contact with infected people One person might have infected 23 people who then infected more people etc By the time we found out about this virus at the church many people were already pretty far into the virus|0 Please stop spreading misinformation and fake news This was a made up story someone posted on twitter Idk why people fall for this obvious bs|0 I am willing to understand and accept the need to go to grocery storesBut the rest of those Yeah those need to be shut down or deliverypickup only for restaurants|1 Were in WA My brother works at a fancy restaurant that takes basically no precautions no hand sanitizer no gloves nothing This is despite the fact that a coworker has come down with flulike symptoms I dont know if hes been tested They arent closing their doors until tomorrow and only because the government is ordering them to do so|0 no this made me feel a lot better ive been trying to figure out how to imagine permanent lung damage my mind jumps to being unable to breathe normally ever again probably just myself panicking granted there is still much we dont know about how this virus effects us longterm thank you for this comment|0 yeah kids are snottycoughing from November until April in Canadano way to tell if they have coronavirus|1 Oh yes People are working sick with something thats worse than an ordinary flu in health food stores in SoCal because they dont have health insurance|0 My bad I wasnt quite clear The thing I was talking about was a completely different kind of drug and not related to vaccines at all I was just talking about the worstcase that can ever happen from any kind of human drug testThe lady is getting a drug that gives her immune system a headsup Its like giving the bank teller a photo of the expected bank robber before he enters the bank It lets it recognize the virus and react s lot faster than it otherwise wouldThe particular drug I was talking about would be more like giving the bank teller a flamethrower that cant be turned off It just goes to show that the immune system can do incredible things but it is very complicated and weve learned that we need to be careful about the ways we try to influence it|1 Also in healthcare and feel the same way Too bad I have no PTO left|0 Fuck the gop and trumps shitty response to our nations safety|0 I agree Im in the US but I still wanna know whats going on elsewhere|1 Id like to point out that if youre a healthy adult please share your supplies with people who may need them more than you people with compromised immune systems and conditions the elderly people who work in hospitalsI was pretty dismayed at how people are grabbing like 8 boxes of masks I went to get a few so that my father with a suppressed immune system would have some in case he needed them and there arent any anywhereIts not that hes ignorant or ignoring anything Hes busy running a company with 20 people reporting to him Most people are really busy and dont have time to scour reddit for daily updates|1 Never use an individual case to argue against a statistical tendencyMy condolences to his family and dear ones|1 Yikes I dont think Saudi Arabia was the best country to run to but OK I cant imagine the state being kind to people who willing entered a nation with this disease|1 I spent a week and a half in the hospital I got four shots a day I eventually negotiated when I was feeling better to trade the shots for getting up and walking around Those shots dont hurt but they sting and it gets annoying after like the 20th time|1 You sound like me I was called paranoid and unstable because I do the same thing by a coworker who travelled on an airplane to a city with confirmed cases|0 Honestly most of these outbreaks are 100 peoples fault All you have to do is wear a mask if youre sick wash your hands and cover your mouth with the inside of your elbow You do these three things and your odds of spreading something are very small but people are too selfish and stupid to not literally kill others with their laziness Thats why I root for the virus anymore|0 Got to keep the numbers down Said the PresidentI strongly believe I have recovered from it with mildmoderate lung damage|0 Source please Lots of people are spreading old information that hasnt been updated Is your information current from this month|1 Throwing money at a problem seems pretty American to me|1 Vietnam and Taiwan are purported to have taken effective measures|1 Tough times man theyve stopped accepting cash You can only pay for ventilators in toilet paper or hand sanitizer|1 Sadly though they are in Trumpistaneven if not ideologically the media control and limiting of information since shit went down in China has been astounding|0 Keep video calling her and make sure no one in the family who might be ill visits Send some food packages and other things They are wise to stay indoors|1 The first casualty of a pandemic is truth|0 Everyone is doing DIY it seems The hardware stores got panic buying lol|0 Soon the President Madagascar will be promoted to President of Mankind|1 Thank you for your translation and please keep us updated on this heros work I am awed by his courage and hope hell be OK|1 What happens when you get in a car accident on your trip out and damage a lung but theres no room for you in the hospital because all of the people that you got sick Just a thought Take care|0 That doesnt change the intent behind it Its still a shitty thing to do|0 Americans smoke way less than Chinese or Italians Interesting data point|1 60 of Americans make less than 10 an hour theyve been screwing ppl over for a min Really disgraceful America is turning into a third world headquarters for mega business|0 I mean Ive seen a lot of posts showing Americans stocking up on guns for some very weird reason lmao|1 Yep I early voted through the mail for that very reason No way in hell I was going to go into a voting boothYou dont deserve any downvotes for making a logical decision to not put yourself in danger of contracting a pandemic level illness with no readily available treatments over voting in a primary Good luck getting redesivir if you got COVID19 now let alone once our hospitals are overrun with infections|0 It has pretty much been covered herehttpsgreatgameindiacomtranscriptbioweaponsexpertdrfrancisboyleoncoronavirusEdit feel free to take this and make into post of its owndit 2 just type Francis Boyle in YouTube for more infoEdit 3 He says httpsyoutubeZNKCrEpqGHY that they already have the vaccine|1 You act like China has any international credibility If the US pulls out so will the rest of the world People tolerate China solely because of trade and the economy|1 To add to that stock buybacks are at all time highs Companies like Apple and many more modulate their stock price with buybacks Itll keep working until it doesnt|1 Heres a sneak peek of rCoronavirusNY using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusNYtopsorttoptall of all time1 Man in rNYC shares story of recent travel to Tokyo and having possible COVID19 on return to Brooklyn but not being tested despite local health officials requesting test from CDChttpsnpredditcomrnyccommentsfayko1mycovid19storybrooklyn 0 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusNYcommentsfbhbd3maninrnycsharesstoryofrecenttravelto 2 New York Stock Exchange could close trading floor in coronavirus contingencyhttpwwwfox5nycomnewsnysecouldclosetradingfloorincoronaviruscontingencyamp 0 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusNYcommentsfbha0tnewyorkstockexchangecouldclosetradingfloor 3 Suspected Coronavirus Patient with recent Travel to Japan sent home without testing in NYChttpsarchiveisedpRK 0 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusNYcommentsfbh9h1suspectedcoronaviruspatientwithrecenttravelIm a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|0 Our local hospital in Maryland just set one of these up Heres how they said it would work You call your doctor with symptoms and history yes unfortunately theyre still stuck on the travel question the doctor screens you and can authorize you to go to the drive through testing site You drive up to the site with your windows closed and your radio air etc off The attendant is 10 from the car I think they said theyd ask you to open the widow from there they approach swab your nose and gtfo The swab is first tested for 1015 dont remember different illnesses it could be Easier cheaper things to test for If none of those are a hit they use one of their precious covid tests Then you get the result dont remember what the wait time is though sorry|1 In their defense they dont pay enough to live on anyway|1 Its not airborn its water droplets This works just fine|1 No arguments for me|0 Can Italy even lockdown its people like China|1 Noooo corona has gone back in time to kill our most beloved|0 Well theres the proof China has lied the whole time|0 Interesting I came here because my comparison of coronavirus to US flus as being inconsequential got me kicked off there Indeed 4000 total deaths from approximately 100000 cases is about par for existing flu cases Not to make light of the suffering people contracting this or SARS MERS H1N1ab but they appear to be of samesimilar characteristics and the US has been dealing with H1N1ab for about 10 years now while dangerous it is not the stuff of the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse others would have one believe This appears to be a public relations ploy to gain political advantage|1 Yep Night club industry gets away with a lot|1 People like Fang Bin and Dr Li are incredible to me As we go about our daily lives there are people like them taking incredible risks to let the world know what is going on Would we have the courage to do the right thing regardless of the cost I would like to say that I have that amount of courage but hope that I never am put in that position|1 Yes he endorses the plan He also at one point had mentioned that they are screening everyone at the airports but did that happen No How do we trust the intent to be concerned about the welfare at large when we see such news reports which point to a different concern|1 Yeah its been a pretty shitty response and not at all proactiveIts funny since my family in the US tries to politicize it I just tell them they agree with the socialist and communist parties that are in charge here and it helps to get the point across that its about basic competence in government|1 The HHS oncologist Ontario that just tested positive likely changed that tune |1 Sure but isnt there a risk of backdraft Even if its valved|1 As far as cheap food I found this free ebook on how to cook on 4day and it helped me when I was a broke college student it comes in Spanish too and she has free PDFs on her sitehttpswwwleannebrowncomcookbooks|1 I am going to swear What a Crazy Unhinged Nutty Twat|0 He should of done a week ago not cut pandemic team in 2018 and cut CDC funding in 2019|1 Even if the new cases are on a decline it doesnt mean there is enough medical help for everyone whos already sick19 hospitals mean 19K beds whereas the total number of cases in Wuhan even according to the official stats which is at best a lower estimate is north of 50K|1 Those requirements are so stupid and go against what theyre telling usIts possible to spread andor contract the virus while appearing asymptomaticYou cant get tested unless youre showing symptoms or had contact with someone who was showing symptoms|0 Are the police still able to respond to normal crime Are any thieves taking advantage of the situation to steal more|0 I think it is a decent source but I certainly dont trust them blindly But when they tell you their source as seen here then they are not really claiming anything other than this person said thisYep thats the rational approach to these types of stories Trust but verify as one would say This sounds plausible but itd be great if we got to see what these journalists are seeing|1 part of the rationale for encouraging people to get flu shots especially in the wake of the novel coronavirus is to prevent people from getting the flu and then going to the hospital thinking they have coronavirus also just get your annual flu shot dammit|0 But Trump said he hoped the weather would help so now obviously the weather is going to hurtCNN probably|1 Yeah for 40 years|1 There is no evidence people can be reinfected and the death rate is well below 50 Making statements like you just have is fearmongering|0 Trump responds to this exact hoax question Fast forwarded to the moment as the reporter is about to ask httpsyoutubeRzRD46SS11ct1522|0 China is having lower numbers every day Thats really good news I think youre right about Japan The CDC has kept them at a lower travel restriction Two of my insane friends are considering keeping their plans to go I hope they dont Prayers to and hopes and thoughts for us all I hope we get test kits out|1 Presidents are puppets with bosses no more|0 How in the world did they only do 11 tests since their update yesterday The doctor was right on Monday This is a national scandal|0 Yes|1 Whats so wrong with what I said|0 I meant London Ontario yeah so Ill still be in Canada But I doubt 1 day on the job will get me EI regardless of the situation|0 Yeah I have been looking at the data I created a model based on the existing data I have It has us in viral generation 12 right now If the model holds validity through generation 16 ending on 28Mar I will start to get really worried because that means its likely to hold through generation 20 which is where this will overtake a bad flu season in terms of deaths The next 4 days would equal another entire bad flu season And it just gets uglier and uglier from there I dont think its time to panic Its never time to panic But based on the data and the exponential trends the conclusion could be pretty historyaltering If somehow public health can get the basic reproduction rate down to even something like 15 or the CFR turns out to be much lower in the West its doing to be a lot more manageable But with an R0 2 even a CFR of 1 leaves a really nasty mess And as I wrote earlier public health services are going to get overwhelmed long before we reach this point Recent historical precedent SARS and MERS would have this dying out by now Those were much easier to contain This seems to have a Goldilocks R0 and CFR that make it more like Spanish Flu Regardless I think that were quickly approaching uncharted territory I appreciate efforts to stay calm but I think saying oh most people are just going to have a cold seriously downplays what were facing Somewhere between the two lies the appropriate level of concern But we unfortunately live in times where subtlety isnt valued|0 Looks like a regular day at Pearson|1 Hot Topic is a great place to work at A friend of mine used to work at the distribution warehouse in our area She had flex time which means she can work 30 to 40 hours depending on her schedule and she gets her full benefits Medical dental and I think vision She was an incredibly hard worker and wore really cute clothes from Hot Topic So yeah support them|1 The young newlyweds that did an AMA from the Diamond Princess and now Lackland Military base in Texas said the crew member that had been handing them food and laundry tested positive for Covid 19 before they could give him his tip upon their evacuation|1 Bless this comment|1 she was there before the lockdown was in effect so I mean lol|1 Shes made up her mind about staying till Thursday Shes lucky I didnt go to China with her this year because I would have dragged her on the first flight home|1 Well for starters the media is playing people like you like a fiddle and its clearly working|1 There is another cult in Korea which publically abused the guidance to avoid large groups the Moonies They had a well publicized mass wedding Some wore masks but many didnthttpswwwfreemalaysiatodaycomcategoryworld20200207insicknessandinhealthmassmoonieweddingdefiesvirusfearsIt would be a lie if I said I was not concerned at all about the infection said the 21yearold university student But I feel like I will be protected from the virus todayEvelyne Chimfwembe who flew in from Botswana to attend the ceremony with her husband of 28 years said she was not worried about the virus as she believed the event would be under Gods control|1 I fully expect the US to be the worst hit developed nation in the entire world by the end of this|0 Doc will you answer a question for me please Whats the point of going to the doctorhospital if a person has a virus any virus not just the novelcorona virus I am getting over a case of influenza which has been hell Ive been in touch with my doctor by telephone He diagnosed it based on my report of my symptoms and told me to rest drink plenty of water and chicken broth take OTC pain meds for aches and pains and fever Tylenol works for me Bottom line is he said theres nothing that can be done for a virus except treat the symptoms which can be done cheaper and in greater comfort from ones home than the hospital So why go the hospital|0 Because that is an epidemics Only a collectively moronic people destined to look back at the past with longing would accept that|0 Nice|1 Makes me feel blessed my deductible is only 250 but its only because the parent company has to compete with a unionrun plan with no deductibles At my last company it was 2000 but the company paid 1000 from their own internal account before you were on the hook for the last 1000|0 I dont know if there are any cases in my town because I live in a the huge Southern Interior Health Region in BC I just know there are two cases somewhere in this region which is about 13 to 12 the size of BC I had assumed as the weeks went by and testing continued I would find out Now Im not going to find out at all unless it starts spreading quickly in this town and old people start getting hospitalized with it Those are the only people they will test besides health care workers|1 Its only everyone only if everyone he hangs out with is a conspiracy nutjobRational people realize that warning about an obvious problem that then occurs doesnt mean they also caused it|0 Stay safe brother|1 Nah theyd be too busy spamming that shitty harambe heaven meme to farm upvotes|0 The WHO reporthttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf was pretty clear that this was the case Read primary sources yo|1 I smirked Thank you upvotesI think everyone is just on edge a bit plus its not like this is rfunny or anything either|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well age is not a perfect measure of someones health status There might be a lot of factors that determine the response including genetics those play a big fucking role undetected minor diseases temporary fluctuation in the immunity of the subject es Endurance performance has a short term negative effect on immunity Also food intolerances might mess immunity up a bit in an otherwise unnoticeable way wether you end up in ICU or not seems linked to the excessive inflammatory response against the infectionthose are speculation from respected Italian physician not published data that is very linked to the individual|0 Yup because it should be noted that Italy was the only EU country to have a travel ban on China Consequently they all flew to Germany or France and came across unchecked|0 Very interesting Unfortunately I cant find any relevant complain in Chinese based on the decent size of the population that has access to VPN Let me try a few different platforms again|0 I think this is more about how you go about stopping pandemics than politics Like the politics people arent the ones handling this One of the criteria to be tested is contact with a confirmed case They have that|1 Sure that isnt great but its not really stampede bunker down and hide from everything levels of bad either|0 New cases over the past 6 days 6 day streak of lower numbers242 114 110 107 76 740 new deaths 75 totalTotal tested 274504Testing ongoing 14971 1301 compared to yesterdayTotal recoveries 1137 303Graph of new and total cases over time in ROK httpsiscdcgokruploadcommdocu0015158432120639400hwpfilesBIN000Cjpghttpsiscdcgokruploadcommdocu0015158432120639400hwpfilesBIN000Cjpg|0 Godlike productions Ive always found to be far out but Ill check it|0 Right If someone sneezes or coughs next to you and you inhale a dropletThis person isnt saying you cant get it if youre next to someone who has it Theyre just saying that those droplets are not staying in the air normally Theyre falling due to gravity So while youre correct in saying you can inhale it it isnt as likely as youre probably unintentionally making it seem|0 Me too and in a painful way while hes on the way out too for all of his lies and general awfulness|0 I live in Hokkaido Im scared|0 These are actually the areas that were being cut in recent federal budget reductions Public Health has a problem When it worksNothing happens When nothing happens for a generation or two except for the average lifespan increasing slowly people start actually questioning the value of public healthIm old enough born 1955 to remember kids in my neighborhood on the metal crutches from polio I was two when the vaccine came out The kids on crutches somehow didnt make it to school or I dont remember them but it all stopped immediately You will find that people my age and older remember the diseases that killed so many We seldom have a problem with immunizations But now you have like three generations who NEVER saw the consequences of diseases and see the small numbers of adverse events associated with vaccines and think that is a problem refuse vaccination for their kids take the population percentages for vaccination below herd immunity levels and you get outbreaks like the recent measles problems Population based health Public Health is about saving everyone not just the individual patientI have literally seen county commissions question why they even needed a public health department We had one that decided to close it and glom onto another country and pay them a few bucks to take care of it Then there was a pertussis outbreak whooping cough and they delayed to closure of the department and had their nurse stay on for six months A year later they were back in business There is likely a similar dynamic going on now at an international level I hope at least within the US But a day late and a dollar short doesnt cut it Thank you for letting me rant|0 If celebrities spoke up in mass about any particular topic the world would change drastically but they all likely have contracts and demand them to stay out of political opinions and stuff and some just really dont care and just love money|1 the downvotes make it funnier|1 Ok Show me any successful communistsocialist country where you have rights to freedom of speech and the personal right to defend it Grabs popcorn|1 I was born in Canada now living in America My parents are still in Ontario are elderly and are compromised so Ive been following both countries Its stressful I hope you and your family stay safe|1 Heres the official announcement httpwjwhubeigovcnfbjddtyw202002t202002132025581shtmlFor anybody whos Google translate isnt working they have changed the classification method to allow doctors to make a diagnosis without waiting for the test results From0200 to 2400on February 12 2020Hubei Province newly added14840new cases of pneumonia including 13332 clinically diagnosed casesIt seems that the nucleic acid test kits werent 100 accurate and that some patients who had all the symptoms of a Corvid19 Covid19 infection had to be tested multiple times before they were proven to have the disease Theres also a theory that the tests might not work on patients who have just been infected and as they believe this disease is infectious from an early stage it would be better to get those patients into treatment and presumably isolation earlier There was a previous bestof comment about how lab testing took time Theres also some chance for human error as these tests need to be done manually The doctors are now using Chest CT scans as part of their diagnosis which speeds up diagnosis However these chest scans also wont be conclusive for the newly infected or those with mild symptoms I think its a good idea to change the scans to give the doctors more discretion hopefully it will help them get a more accurate picture on how the disease is spread and how to control it What this means for the rest of us outside of China is that there may be those who were infected and test negative for scans who think they have the common flu and are out there spreading the epidemic More reason to maintain good hand washing hygiene disinfecting hands before touching your face and wearing masks The jurys still out about what type of eye protection to wear If you have read this it may be a good idea to make sure you have a good supply of hand sanitizer or rubbing alcoholand masks at home These are things which are in short supply in Hong Kong now as well a toilet paper but thats probably a HK specific problem|1 Pretty sure the boomers are the ones buying the Easter suppliesOr millennial Karen|1 Italys already put one area under quarantine so thats unprecedented This includes a criminalized travel ban and indefinite holiday for work and school Theyre at least attempting to show they have the will for rapid strict response|0 has the additional benefit of no corona deaths as well as they all died of lead poisoning|0 I would also like to know if this applies to pregnant women Im 25 weeks pregnant and have obviously been offered a flu jab am I supposed to just take further precautions or isolate for 12 weeks|0 Fingers crossed that the kits are approved by the CDC Doubt itll make a big difference since we can only test like 30 people at a time if that|1 Occams razor The simplest answer is usually the correct one Why would 1 out of 200k just suddenly die and so fast a Young person at that where the mortality rate is so low It just doesnt make sense Anyways you are choosing to be terrified over something you cant prove either way and are deciding to believe the scariest solution with zero evidenceKid could of been a chain smoker who games 18 hours a day and lives off ramen for all we know|0 WA here Trump did say that he is considering a ban on domestic travel inout of WA and CA But the many people I know in the military here know nothing about a whole barricaded lockdown So far nothing No cases in my county reported yet|0 25 mil seems laughably small when you really think about it|1 Oh nice good luck with your search Stay safe out there and I wish you luck|1 Id give you gold stranger but Im saving up for toilet paperEDIT Thanks for the silver|1 Even if you use the real stats instead of this ridiculous all boomers idea it wipes out 1020 of people over 60 Huge disaster Im glad Trump changed his mind but those Tweets from 3 days ago comparing a week of corona to the entire flu season stats were horrid|0 What The FuckThis is positively horrendousI am equally baffled and disgusted How could she scoop that shit up and process it knowing that people will eat that Does she not have a conscience|0 Thats not what is shown and said in many videos seen online They are very much sealing some in They are told in emergency like a fire to call a number of their building or zone contact who is supposedly nearby with keysEven that last bit sounded like lieshttpsyoutubeNTH5Qzr8aGk|1 You could have flu SARS2 or unknown factor x SARS2If people are showing symptoms but testing negative for everything the false negatives we hear about that is consistent with unknown factor x which is impossible to test for if it remains unknown|0 Agreed I took the decision to remove my two last week Friday and school has been very understanding as one is in the vulnerable category I cant envisage therell be fines at the end of all this but if I do get fined Im not bothered at this stage I want my kids at home from now on|1 FYI 10 weeks from the first confirmed US case would be March 30|1 Hmmm I wish telework was possible for me Be a little difficult to weigh and measure the babies through a screen Much less swab them for flu rsv pertussis etc |0 Yup SARS and MERS are coronavirus strains yet they never really did much in the US Now that this virus is here and we are getting hit with it I say well remember quite well How its being handled now as some democratic work of fiction to slander his run is ludicrous|0 I dont know if things have changed but the initial by age breakdown showed 1839 as 02 death rate and 4049 as 04This seems to me deliberately done Id fucking bet these assholes are trying to make things look better than they are for those 4049 by using 2539 to make them look better|0 Read a great post about how the card tables in Vegas are run Cards chips and rotating dealers Couldnt be a worse place to be|1 I read that this policy has changed since yesterdayAnd its not true that testing stops many hospitals test for influenza every time someone has symptomsI was very concerned about this myself but we will have to wait and see I dont think they are giving up on testing people with symptoms|1 Since the outbreak here in Kunming those delivering food are not allowed into our housing estate in order to prevent the spread But recently Kunmings risk level has been taken from 3 to 1 and looking at todays cases there are 53 with 48 recovered So just 5 peoplebut nothing has changed People are still not allowed in to deliver food everyone is still wearing masksI cant see any differenceI guess we have to watch out for those 5 people lol|1 They did contain it well|1 I thought the supplies from China would continue to bumper down the deaths but how sadly wrong I was|0 And this is just one of many predictions I assume 25 doesnt look like they think its containable like the WHO still does Is it safe to assume 25 is likely for other countries too|0 Trump also cut funding for the CDC forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectiousdisease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationPlease contact us if we made a mistake|0 its hard to believe what happen there|0 Unless youre like me and have no memory Bcells for acquired immunity D|1 Thanks for this i have tachycardia sorry for bad english and its VERY dangerous when i get anxiety attacks beacuse my heartrate goes up to atleast 110 125bpm even when resting breathing slowly did nothing before the attack laying in my bed or sitAnd with this coronavirus situation i have been in critical concern both for my heart and my family beacuse im a kiddo uwu and i got really anxious for the coronavirus even tho im quite safe funny time beacuse ihave done 3 blood test that resulted in great hemoglobingood sodioumvery good calciumno sign of any type of infection other than the tachycardiaalthough i am very skinny and wheigt like 36 kglike severely underweight idk lolthe doctors where confused but anywaysThis news really chill me off cuz my bpm has greatly increased in the last 4 daysThanks for the wholesome news boiscya|1 243 cases and ZERO deaths But according to rjustaflubro im not taking it seriously enough|1 Could you link the article please|1 It was hearting to see everyone in the video standing beside someone No one was alone|0 Spray painted on a church by someone who couldnt derive a vector valued function for a lifetime supply of ganja|0 FWIW close friends just passed through DFW via Sydney Australia onto Toronto No issues at all About 3 hours ago|1 this only means that they cant get the disease before they are born once they are born they breathe like normal|1 Meanwhile it hasnt even started The warmup hasnt even started for fuck sake|0 I dont think the way you arrive at the bounds on death rates is great Backoftheenvelope estimates are fine but Id make this explicit We dont really know but researchers are using a number of approaches to try to guess at the true figures Heres one technique I cooked up which has shortcomings in such and such a way While we lack good data the best estimates will probably come from an ensemble of oblique approaches like this See for example the Nowcasting and forecasting paper in the Lancet that used a different set of tricks to make related estimatesI agree with you in principle We can compare progression of disease to SARS and say that patients are less ill and mortality is likely to be much lower for 2019nCoV We can say that while the death rate from China is likely to be an underestimate the total number of cases is likely to be an even BIGGER underestimate due to resource constraints cases with mild symptoms and other factors So its guesswork but I actually do think the final mortality figure for China is likely to be 2|1 Two weeks If the virus takes 5 days to kill on average the apt comparison would be people discharged now against deaths from 9 days ago 2 weeks 5 days That currently looks to be 72 discharged to 25 dead though I strongly suspect that overstates the mortality rate because a noncritical cases less likely to go to hospital and b people seemingly getting better probably hold much lower priority for testing kits whilst the virus is still spreading so fast|0 No matter how rational you are your brain picks up all the hysteria and eventually it gets to you I had to cut myself off This sub is great tbh|0 Ha ha yeah I guess so I felt stupid buying a 40 oximeter but then as with many of my prep purchases I had to consider how stupid Id feel if I sorely needed an oximeter and either a couldnt get one or b had to break the anticipated selfisolation of our family in order to go out and try to get one|0 The less people he infects with his politics the better Just my opinion but you do you|1 Yeah it seems unlikely and Id like to see a source This report states a third of pt in ICU are 5064 This is a huge range and I highly suspect it skews toward the tail end httpswwwpbsorgnewshourhealthnotawaveatsunamiitalyhospitalsatviruslimit|1 While that study found an undesirable inflammatory immune response it may not be applicable in real life as the mice were likely challenged by an inhaled high viral dose whereas SARS COV 2 appears to infect with a small dose through the upper respiratory tract in most cases So hopefully a vaccine would prevent significant lung infection in the first place|1 Guess what the reason is that you DONT throw balls in a hoop for a livingYoure right I should have just assumed I knew who I was talking to like you did|1 And you cant just test once and say you are done just because you are negative now does not mean you will not pick this up we need testing and we need the ability to test for the next conceivable period Until hopefully some level of immunity or mitigation takes hold|1 delayThere you go If they delay it long enough either everyone is dead or it will solve itself and he can take credit And if it solves itself before too many people get tested he could say it was handled so well that the US had the lowest number of reported infected and yadda yadda BS he always does|0 Each news I see feels like Im playing Plague Inc and winning|1 Yup I remember having a debate with an american who was saying UK would be the 50th poorest state in America its economy is nothing And yet we have guaranteed health care higher minimum wage state pension much stronger labour rights etc etc For how advanced they socially they are genuinely quite backwards|1 Frequently children adopted out from other countries have physical or mental issues The days of China unloading its unwanted female babies on the world are over So theres no telling why shes blinking like that She could also just be blinking long because of the studio lights|0 I agree each state needs to operate based on its needs Im speaking more to my specific state which already has an escalating number of cases|1 I feel so special|1 Wading in flood water is really dangerous so no wonder kids got sick I bet the ones making this decision were warm and dry in their offices too|0 And there here good post though my man atleast your level headed|1 In Japan school ends in March and starts in April Its like an early vacation for them|1 We have only tested a few people Mostly basketball players recently 90 non critical and critical doesnt become critical overnight This virus is slow which is difficult on many levels A virus like this is especially hard on the stock market because we should quarantine the sick for 26 days As this number grows past 1 this very minute we are fucked for a quick recovery|0 This will age well|1 Thats frustrating There is still a lot of keep calm and carry on mentality where I live Im just trying to inform everyone I can|0 Yeah because in four years they will be well past their prime People must think top athletes just decide hey maybe Ill give the Olympics a go Many of them in many events are scouted and begin training before they are even eligible to compete so that they can be in their prime and at the top of their training at a very young age Dont see many gold medal athletes beyond 2225 and even the top of that range is pretty uncommon Imagine being 22 having trained your whole life leading up to preparing for the actual games only to be told all your work was for nothing and hopefully you can maintain your performance level for the next four years|1 Absolutely In this scenario deaths would be referred to as a lagging indicator of the current situation Back of the napkin maths gives me an estimate of around 800 current cases per death so around 28000 infected in UKEdit Just wanted to add remember Im just someone on Reddit please do not take my numbers as gospel|0 He says at the outset he was very sceptical of the numbers and if Chinas model was even successful until him and his team spent time there interviewing people at all levels and observing what was occurring They were blown away with what China had done and insist the scale of this cant be faked and even if the numbers might not be 100 accurate the downward trend is real He understands the cynicism as this type of trend has never been seen before in human history for a respiratory disease outbreak|0 I agree and thats a great sentiment but our only saving grace right now IMO is that|1 I said they werent effected which is true They dont get nearly as sick They do however carry and trasmit the virus yes I never said they didnt|1 Measures to slow infections are already underway and schools and gatherings will soon be stopped While you are irrationally anxious for it to happen today the extra week buys critical time for organisations and supply chains to complete their preparation without immediately creating a crisis of childcare for key workers including a million healthcare staff and those involved in food supply There will be several months of lockdown when the peak hits but the mitigation measures in the next few days outweigh a panic now just to pander to more irrational members of the public|0 In completely unrelated news horrible vehicle accidents spiked upwards by the following Wednesday|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 This sub is basically a Coronavirus conspiracy sub too or conspiracy lite Ffs Alex Jones was posted here yesterday|0 No worries I was just adding additional context for anyone not familiar with WI |0 While Germany DOES have a multiplayer system ithttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHealthcareinGermany is a universal coverage hybrid system that is heavily regulated to keep costs down So they do NOT have hundreds of thousands of people without any healthcare coverage like the US doesJust a couple of points from that articleAccording to the World Health Organization Germanys health care system was 77 governmentfunded and 23 privately funded as of 20048 Health insurance in Germany is split in several parts The largest part of 89 of the population is covered by a comprehensive health insurance plan provided by statutory public health insurance funds regulated under specific the legislation set with the Sozialgesetzbuch V SGB V which defines the general criteria of coverage which are translated into benefit packages by the Federal Joint Committee The remaining 11 opt for private health insurance including government employees24As of 2010 Germany has used reference pricing and incorporates cost sharing to charge patients more when a drug is newer and more effective than generic drugs45 However as of 2013 total outofcosts for medications are capped at 2 of income and 1 of income for people with chronic diseases46The US could be doing better for its citizens and SHOULD be|1 While I laughed at first Its pretty genius and idiot proof I touch my face all the time I have noticed|1 Settle down Dont take mass transportation outside our country is exactly what Im saying Havent you heard about this infectious disease for which there is little longterm understanding no cure and no vaccineIf you travel outside our country expect to be tested|0 When this is over it will be interesting to analyze Did Trumpfollowers have a greater probability of death than others It might be possible to do some statistics with voterregistrations of deceased persons compared to voterregistrations of population|1 I think hes basically saying were trying to lock Coronavirus out of the US like a serial killer out of the house but its already here|0 I think this kinda shows that the outbreak isnt somethig they can control According to the Chinese even a double test only yield 40 success rate CT scan yield higher up to 70 but its time consuming and also CT scan does not dismiss other causes of the lung damage leading to lots of false positive casesI agree real information should be released though but I aint in the US and dont know what they are doing to suppress communication|1 Well I havent watched this but can say that nothing should be very surprising People do not seem to understand quarantine and non exposure much at all Just look at the numbers of people who just go to work while sick or just out and about in general or think doing things like coughing into their arm stops much of anything Or that you if you are at least 6 feet away from others you will be immune to catching anything SMH And the pictures we are seeing of the Diamond Princess show it docked at a port which isnt particularly quarantined at all Miles out at sea is what was required for an effective quarantine preferably hundreds of miles There are theories about viruses travelling thousands of miles through space on asteroids and surviving perfectly intact People think 6 feet or a few hundred yards away docked in a port is enough sorry but no sir Viruses are microscopic might as well be weightless and can probably float for miles on wind gusts I know Ive caught colds before while being over a hundred yards away from elementary aged kids at a school|1 When you realize chinese commentators on YT have been saying since day 1 that Wuhan has become the battlefield of the power struggle between different factions within the communist party and their pawns are releasing news trying to embarrass their enemy in front of the entire nation you understand why some stateowned media goes rogue all of a sudden|0 Ive heard this has the possiblility of infecting 6080 of the population Thats like 5 billion or so people At a conservative 2 mortality rate thats 100000000 deaths This does NOT include those who die from starvation because of economic collapses or those who cant get an ICU bed because theyre all taken etcor medical scarcity of supplies like prescription drugs which also causes the weakest of society to sufferdie Best case scenario I think we end up w half these numbers because our govts get their shit together but some countries probably wont and itll be worse there Im not an epidemiologist but even w a vaccine will this possibly spin up w multiple variations every few years and need new vaccines Will it cause more death at each spin up Could this be the new normal The best assumptions right now are that hospital beds will be at max capacity in the USA by May 8th After that good luck if you have a life threatening emergency either COVID related or nonCOVID related How many might die from COVID whod survive IF they had ventilatorsICU beds available I think were gonna find out soon enough how bad this really will be by May|0 I get what youre saying but I just heard people with brown eyes are 1000x more likely to contract and die from the virus s|0 I had to go rummaging in my links but thishttpsmediaspringernaturecomfullspringerstaticimageart3A1010072Fs0013401226278MediaObjects13420122627Fig1HTMLgifaswebp is how bad it is ie We are 89 days away from oh f|0 I mean forget the intensive care and death rates which are still a bit all over the place and just think about this If the flu for which there is a vaccine and a good portion of the population is naturally immune through past exposition at any one time still kills tens of thousands of people every year what do you think happens when a similar illness sweeps through a population without built in protection Even if it isnt very deadly youre looking at massive rates of infection and thus hundreds of thousands deathsIf the 30 to 70 infected materialize and the US is very much headed towards the upperend of that at a 01 death rate youre still looking at between 100k and 230k deaths on top of the regular flu plus all the critical cases that wouldnt be fatal if we had the time and material and manpower to help them And thats in the very best of cases with a 01 death rate or mild flu season This shit should keep people awake but since they arent afraid of the flu because humans built resistance to it through time they think it wont be that bad We need people to get better at math asapEdit math for the US obviously|0 Sadly yes Ive been hearing the its only a common flu narrative for weeks Im seriously afraid of whats going to happen to Ontario and Canada as a whole in the coming weeks Im even more fearful of whats going to happen after March Break when people come back from their little vacations still spewing the misinformation that its only a common fluIf its only a common flu why the fuck would Italy quarantine 16 Million people Why would China bring everything to a halt in WuhanFrom all of this I learned whats best is to protect myself and my family without expecting much support from any other sources This means being informed and praying for the best while expecting and preparing for the worstStay safe uindigocoloor Wish you all the best|1 Anyone catch that line today in the press release from BC health Ministerthe next few weeks will be very important in determing whether or not we can beat this thingHilariousMeanwhile risk is low and keep washing your hands but also we might not beat this thing Good luck|1 Like what though Isnt this their job|1 httpswwwtelegraphcouknews20200314coronavirusplanemergencypowersdetainvirusvictimskeepLargest age group to vote for Tories was 70 The same age group that is the most vulnerable and at risk to being seriously coroned due to the lack of preventative measures to contain|0 True closing schools wont hurt but I feel like a large proportion of the public think its a magic bullet to stop the spread Complete social distancing will be the most effective not just keeping kids away from schoolI disagree that the rate of discovery of new cases will be the same whether method you use Most countries have a variation in policy of testing criteria However I agree the trajectory is worrying and the governments are screwing up|1 Youre suggesting something is hidden from the public and thats false Theyre speaking out in an appropiate way The cases in southern Germany where a Chinese employee infected several workers from an auto parts company during a training were handled in a transparent manner With the new cases its the same No need for hype or false suggestions|0 I know you feel virtuous posting this but its not your responsibility to mourn those people People die every second you cant take the time to think about each one They all have their own sapd stories and people who miss them Those close to them will take the needed time to think about themYour job is to remain calm and think practically about how to approach the issue at hand For most of us this means go about your daily lives as normalThe sad truth of it is that posts like these are counterproductive because many people will freak out as a result which helps no one|0 He died of coronavirus after getting the treatment he would have had anywayNope China has already done over a hundred clinical trials of different treatments for COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to be quite effective at improving recovery rates This result has been replicated by studies done in South Korea and France A French study just published yesterday shows that 75 of patients given hydroxychloroquine tested negative after 6 days compared to 10 of the control groupThe US medical establishment is ignoring the latest medical evidence coming from around the world There are effective antiviral treatments for COVID19 if given early enough the key is to test people and catch the infection earlyWaiting until someone needs to be hospitalized to test for COVID19 is basically abandoning all of our currently most effective treatment optionsAnother nice benefit of mass testing is we would know who have recovered from the virus The blood plasma of recent recoverees have been shown to contain high concentrations of COVID19 antibodies This is currently the only effective treatment for people with severe cases We cannot produce these antibodies yet in a lab so the only source is blood donations from people who have recovered recently People who get infected and recover can save the lives of those who are really sick We wont know who to ask for blood donations if we dont test|1 Oh flu|0 Yea Think Palestinians should get their land stolen from them just because Syria has landmass Look at israels expansion from 1946 Also think they will stop when they are done with Palestine There is a reason they keep paying the us to disturb the peace in the entire region|0 While you cant ever assume you are due outbreaks pretty much happen like clockwork Ironically lately every election year So 4 years each time separated SARS MERS Swine Flu and Ebola So while you cant be certain anything will happen you can be fairly certain there is a pretty good chance something will happen and it pays to be preparedNot backfilling critical positions was foolish and incredibly shortsighted|1 Well you also have to factor in the environmental cost of making the battery EVs are also heavier requiring more energy and releasing a lot more PM25 as a resultI agree EVs are generally better anyway especially when powered from renewable sources but its not a simple just better in every way|1 What recommendations do you have for food Prepping and buying as much beforehand Are you seeing shortages in supermarkets near you|0 Imagine it being hard to breathe because you have pneumonia from Coronavirus and then you get stuck under rubble|0 Which is why I think the feds should go the extra step and ei fund cv sick leave now|0 Said like a true shill|1 Your work is much appreciated Stay safe|1 Why not just raise an army of giant insects to fight us forcing us to design sleek battlemechs to fight back|0 Read Scarcity the true cost of not having enough by Mullainathan and Shafir Consider how Capitalist Democracy in a world where nations compete by economy means country leaders are permanently in Scarcity Mode|1 You cant even leave your apartment complex to buy a bag if rice in china with a slightly elevated temperature let alone step foot on an airplane|0 Itll be interesting to see if this will help contain the spread Most countries are opting not to ban travel between countries because they claim its either too late or they feel like travelers from banned countries will just travel to a country not yet on the banned list and get it that way This is the stance that the government here in Switzerland has taken not limiting travel from Italy If it proves that Israel manages to keep infected numbers down due to stringent travel limitations I will forever lose respect for the socalled experts that have valued the economy over the lives of older citzens|1 Reddit doing a fine job of making this sub THE goto board for all things coronavirus|1 Change of HeartPhantom Thieves of Hearts are at it again|0 Good move by the state of Oklahoma here I hope other states prioritize high visibility individuals too|1 youre parents are so fucked lol|0 Dontt like lockdown ok good luck|1 This is what Im saying Seems like common sense for everybody involved|1 Everyone I know is cancelling their cruise vacations|0 I didnt know that until this outbreak nor did I know that Americans dont get much if any PTO either I am legit amazed I figured being the richest nation on earth theyd have it better than the rest of us|1 Cdc is a worthless bureaucracy just like every other government entity The number of Americans who have any faith in government entities decreases every year which is exactly why trump got elected in the first place The only people calling for trumps head over the cdc budget are the same ones who have been calling for his head over every other thing imaginary or otherwise The rest of the country dont have any faith in the cdc after a decade of false alarms and spiraling budgets and couldnt care less|1 Maybe its just that GameStop cant afford to buy cleaning supplies for its stores because theyre broke|0 Daniele Rugani as well|1 interesting thanks|1 Nope not kidding u|1 Being rational and evidence based isnt using obviously fictitious CCP numbersx200BA rational evidence based actor would look at Chinas history in these scenarios their reaction in shutting down their economy and cities and extrapolate numbers from different meansShrugging your shoulders as he does and saying Its the best weve got is absurd Youre better off picking a number out of a hat than going off of the CCP numbersHes otherwise been decent but this is an absurd hole in most of his content|1 It seems like this sub thinks tests are how doctors diagnose In this situation the test is going to confirm what they already suspect due to symptoms and patient historyOn the one hand every doctor in the western world is totally incompetent and dumber than some random redditor On the other hand the disease is in China manageable outbreaks Korea Iran and Italy and small numbers in japan etc cropping up on occasion|1 I feel for you 18 weeks pregnant here and I work in a communal office setting Ive been really worried and luckily my boss agreed to let me sit alone in a secluded area to reduce exposure but some of my coworkers have come up to me telling me Im over reacting I ignore them because from what I can tell they dont know enough about this virus and risks to pregnancy Better safe than sorry We have 3 confirmed cases in my city but when there is more spread I told my boss I will not be coming to work Im an independent contractor so I have more freedom to stay home I wont get fired but I dont get paid Hopefully they will allow remote work|1 Wow there is a lot of numbers on here citing cost and false positive rates with zero links or facts behind it Some people find conspiracy in anything and everything they look at Seriously a massive cover up to kill people so they dont have to pay a retirement or pension Give me a break First of all in todays society no one can keep their mouth shut No chance this is a massive cover up Some of the comments on here are frankly comical I feel like Im listening to a bunch of 12 year old spout misinformation Oh wait Nowadays thats called news|0 I couldnt believe the bloke laughed at the idea of it surviving on money China destroyed a load of banknotes precisely because it can survive on objects for daysAuthority figures should be held to account for their massively irresponsible advice after this has ended if they havent died from it|1 Yes but if this virus was truly lethal youd at least expect a couple of them to die|0 Other companies will take note and wont follow walmarts lead if that were to happen again Who knows which is better|1 Very nice graph Thank you uFluffyMcGee5|1 This brief articles explains the issues well httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMp2000929|1 Please do tell how this virus wasnt the fault of the CCP Id really like to know|1 Yep 7 x 7 Jubilees|1 Fresh lung cells delicious|1 Im not saying its just the flu Its clearly not and its worthy of concern and caution I just see folks leaning into the hyperbole and panic of situations like this on this sub|0 I said truth not article that was disproven multiple times already|1 Maybe these same people would be interested in boarding super low cost cruises too Bound to be a once in life time experience with potential for bonus nights at final destination|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 yea unfortunately it was very much par for the course lmao He is really really bad at reading teleprompters I was cringing so hard I could barely even watch|0 If what that BILLIONAIRE dude said is true then China is a lot more fucked then they are showing|0 No shit sherlock That CDC seating chart is some wild ass stupid|0 It was apparent you were but the disclaimer is smart Hah|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwansaitsitonotiziemondoeuropa20200310dimaiodacinaanchespecialistivirus98b21e3fcdde4014a0eda43489be77c0htmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I was in a meeting yesterday with grown adults A leader was going around forcing handshakes on about 30 people and saying we have a better chance of being struck by lightning He forced me into a handshake and I couldnt react with a fist bump fast enough One I was out of his sight i sanitised washed and wiped down what I was touching All my coworkers say its just going to a little flu Motherfucker this is a new disease we are actively allowing to spread which will have unknown results I used to have full faith in the CDC but the cuts and gutting and poor decision making of this administration is beyond horrific Our country should have quarantined a week ago had tests ready a month ago South Korea has drive through testing and China had testing up and running in early January What the fuck is taking us so long|0 Thank you for the idea I just contacted my PCPs nurse She said their entire office only has 3 masks TOTAL I told her I have 50 they can have|1 my family personally knows her and her family From what ive heard she did try coughing up money instead of corona but they still refused|0 Build up your own immunity and your familysIf you are a healthcare provider work to provide more beds and ventilators and masks for the uninfectedGet ready to save lungs|1 I put it on top to take the pic then put it back|1 Why arent there limits on how many pieces of an item you can buy In Germany you can only buy one or two packs of toiletpaper and its like that for basically all high demand items|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I dont know about you but if my life were to be seriously disrupted by contact with a confirmed case I would rather wait until I develop mild symptoms or not and then be administered chloroquine in the hospital This way I would probably develop antibodies and be protected for a few months at least from future infection The odds look pretty good with 130 mild cases being treated and zero progressing to severehttpwwwchinaorgcnchina20200222content75732846htm If you take chloroquine as a prophylactic maybe the virus wouldnt really take hold and you wouldnt develop antibodiesThe dosing being used as COVID treatment in some of the Chinese clinical trials is 500 mg twice a day httpwwwchictrorgcnshowprojenaspxproj48968httpwwwchictrorgcnshowprojenaspxproj48968 httpwwwchictrorgcnshowprojenaspxproj49481httpwwwchictrorgcnshowprojenaspxproj49481|1 It also states that all of them were also on steroids and other medication at the same time I know some of the gastroenterological symptoms mentioned can be associated with steroid use and one of the three also had food poisoning|0 He is long doom|0 While I agree with you Singapore has not fucked around either They have been a model of proactive testing contact tracing and quarantine not to mention public health transparency in telling people about locations to avoid They learned their lesson with SARS and it has payed off for them The contrast with the US could not be more stark|1 Eat cake and get outta my doorway Youre blocking the fresh air|0 Gotta take advantage of those 4 pitchers of green beer while you still can s|1 I own a small manufacturing company and can tell you that tooling up for mass production of any product takes a lot of time and resources Supply chains need to be developed for raw materials specialized equipment like molds and presses need to be built employees need hired and trained and distribution networks need set up Even at extremely accelerated cost is no object pace I am guessing it would take me over a month to make the first mask and that would only be if I was exempt from any lawsuit if there should be a defect so I could omit the testing phase|0 While it is true that PPE supply is low that is not the reason why this was changed The article even says that BC has been treating this as droplet precautions|1 Its a MomResponse None of this mucking about Everyone in the house wash your hands and no friends over|1 This is a perfect example of sunk cost fallacyIf the money cant be recovered the choices are1 Cancel the event lose whatever money has been paid already2 Dont cancel the event maybe make some money but its now an super spreading event with an even higher cost down the lineInsurance isnt the solution to this because they are essentially professional gamblers They collapse when they have to pay out a large number of claims Theyll have a pool of money plus premiums they can pay out from but their whole business is based on making money from premiums on policies they never have to pay Essentially when you buy insurance youre betting that something will go wrong and the insurance company is betting that it will be ok They can go bust when things arent ok From that perspective Id say pandemic insurance is a waste of money because either the policy wont pay or when it does have to pay its more likely to run out of money before it can pay youEpidemic insurance could work because the rest of the world can absorb that costThe economic impacts of this can only be solved with government policies not insurance policiesWe need to protect people from insolvency and ensure they get the basic necessities until this thing blows over Otherwise people living paycheck to paycheck are stuck between a rock and a hard place having to choose between their own survival or a lower personal risk with a much greater community risk And in the end I think theyll get hit by that personal risk anyways because IMO the smartest thing for people who dont have to participate in the economy is to not at the moment Especially in the entertainment at least in person Netflix is going to have a lot of business while people still have money food services transport both mass transit and ride sharing and tourism industriesThe sooner this aspect is dealt with the less of an overall impact it will have both healthwise and on the economy I hope that at the very least governments are looking at what industries cant be shut down to support people mostly not leaving their homes for maybe up to a couple of months and how to manage the logistics of that And this might be why they are reluctant to act as severely as is needed because if they dont implement this properly it will lead to civil unrest which will make everything worse But on the other hand things might be headed in that direction anyways if they cant inspire confidence which IMO only China and SK are really doing at this point Everywhere else seems to only be implementing halfmeasures and too late at that|1 Thanks I was wondering which community got hit|1 reinfection does not kill you it depends on how you went through your first infection You could be an asymptomatic infected person who keeps getting it over and over It doesnt mean you will die If you barely survived in ICU for weeks and got reinfected after successful release then there is a chance of death Anyway the death rate will never be 100|0 Thats pretty interesting What about anyone who needs medication What if you wear glasses|1 Or his coworkers he infected while not having symptomsThis is not quite right All 4 are 2nd generation from the same Chinese business partner She contacted the company when she got back to Wuhan and started feeling sick At the same time p2 was starting to feel ill He was diagnosed and they tested 40 other people that were at the class Thats when they found the other 3|0 Hope he gets as shafted as is humanly possible|1 Well all I know is that it takes a special kind of evil mastermind to develop a weapon that they are the most susceptible to|0 Challenge accepted|1 It worked well for a Korea to know where the sick were exactly Desperate times|0 No 200 for foreigners not free|0 Scientists determined that Italys outbreak originated from Germans If thats the case then imagine how long its been circulating around Germany undetected|1 Thanks for your work|1 The real question is what holds true outside of China Everyone keeps brushing off the fact that China has HORRIBLE air quality and a heavy propensity to smoke And not the one cig a day type of smoke They are primed to be the ones crushed by this disease India doesnt look promising if it spreads there too|0 I agree 100|1 Its like everything they do and say is weeks too late It is no doubt already everywhere theres probably already tens of thousands of cases in the US that got treated like seasonal flu It doesnt seem to be that big a deal unless you treat it like China and crack down on your population|1 My friend and his wife just flew to Dublin on Thursday Not sure if I want to hang out with them when they get back|1 well thats the stupidest thing ive heard today|0 We were all watching as the situation in China unfolded Some countries took action while others waited or ignored itWe can blame China for letting it out but thats not going to stop the virus from making it past our own borders Even worse some governments are still not doing anything after seeing Italy or theyre simply raising their hands and saying theres no point doing anything Wheres the responsibility in that|0 Hamilton here Stay safe local friends|1 Then you should know the context of each testsite Not every country has the same policy when it comes to testingI agree that the data is not useless but it should not be relied upon too much|1 So what makes you think that giving Trump and his cronies even more power will make things better We can try to improve the system to allocate funding but we cant improve the horribly incompetent people in charge of that system Giving them even more power will just make things worse|1 Yeeeep My grandfather is almost 80 is a diabetic and has stage 5 kidney disease another risk factor Fortunately he doesnt drive and basically never leaves his house unless its to go to dialysis but Im trying to get my mom to get a plan together when and if it comes to our area Hopefully the clinic he goes to prepares and goes to extra lengths to sanitize everything but you never know Its people like him Im most concerned about and others should be as wellMy impression of this sub is that its a lot of college kids and young adults who arent at risk thinking theyre going to die Obviously anyone can die from any type of disease but its very clear where where numbers are and whos the most at risk Too much focus is being put on the very small number of healthy deaths putting that in quotes because we cant really be sure unless we have a complete workup when the focus should be on those around is who are most at risk The elderly those with preexisting conditions the immunocompromised etcSo yes expect young people do die Its a given but its not going to common People shouldnt be clinging to each individual outlier case as confirmation that theyre next Our focus should be on as the CDC keeps telling people to worry about their own health and practicing good hygiene to limit the spread as well as helping those of us in our community who are most at risk|0 This is outrageous Short term housing isnt a good that has been purchased and now cant be used This is greed I was able to cancel a HomeAway booking not through the company but through the actual property owner by calling them directly They were very understanding|0 Yeeeeeeaaaah right I work construction Never going to happen here Chinas authoritarian system of government is able to cut the red tape in ways we simply cant dream of achieving and frankly the greater cost of slashing osha laws environmental standards and other checks and balances that are setup for a reason isnt necessarily a price worth paying I agree we are going to need more facilities and well need them fast but lets ne realistic Its time to throw away this outdated economic paradigm that everything comes down to socialism vs capitslism because its a ridiculous oversimplification Its just naive|0 How the fuck would 800 be not enough to feed you for two weeks|0 Very similar My father had a heart attack last year he is 68 and thinks its a joke Advised him to get some cat food as itll go quick He laughed and said luckily the cat can catch miceMy mother is basically a recluse Doesnt go out always cancels last minute if were meeting up etc She also has multiple health problems Advised her yesterday to stay in for 12 weeks if she needs anything I will get it for her Ill do an online shop later in the week came the reply Negative mother the backlog says no Ill go and do a click and collect thenThis went on for about an hour Had to explain she will get pneumonia and if we are at Italy levels she will be turned away from the hospital and sent home to die I appreciate on here we are ahead of the curve but fuck me some people|0 This is so cute I cant deal with it |1 I dont have that exact experience but when my boy was born the wife had to go on magnesium for 24 hours due to high BP It was brutal for me having to take care of things at home because she literally couldnt lift her arms to hold her new baby so someone had to be there any time she tried to feed the tot And she felt so helpless and out of it Had to call her mom in to assist we were very fortunate to have that supportLong story short that was only 24 hours Having to do something like days or weeks would be absolutely brutal|0 Why dont they just use Silver Solution s|1 Any tips on how to reduce how much i check the news Im struggling to do this even though I tell myself to stop cause all it will do is cause more anxiety As a hypochondriac someone who is overly afraid of my family and Is health this is making me go insane lol|0 It is so weird looking at pictures of people in the public knowing that many of them are contracting the disease and some of them will die in 23 weeks as a result That I am looking at pictures of dead people walking It is scary|0 People who recover from Coronavirus could be left with an unresistable urge to limboCould is such a useful word You can really say any old shit you like and the sentence is technically true|1 I know They just announced today that they have thousands of suspected cases though Other governments just had to let them know about their problem|0 I think yall mean caught between Freedom and Patriotism|1 Thanks|1 Cool so long enough for quarantine then|1 Ill never forgive the Japanese|0 I dont really care if youre rude tbh but youre not making any sensePlease explain to me then Every official number is handled and quited as an official confirmed number The official and confirmed words are literally in there Theyre not calling them total infected theyre calling them confirmed Meaning there might be more but these are what we have tested and therefore confirmed for exsistingOn many press conferences they even say we have x number of cases confirmed or there are no cases in the country that we know off They arent just saying we have no cases but that they dont know about them because they either dont exsist or they arent discovered yetIts not lying or misinformation you all just cant comprehend simple sentences and dont understand the meaning of the word confirmed apparently|0 I know And the level of social ridicule for being panicked its astounding All these folks wanna act like its a conspiracy The economy is collapsing folks Not bc of a bluff And it aint to throw an election Smh|0 The friday speech was the opposite added 6 gain but he had to call out all the ceos for the stock market prep rally 30 minutes 6 gain 9 overall It was completely wiped today At the end of the day we dont want it to collapse There isnt much we can do to help confidence when companies are downsizing Our infrastructure is weak no pto medicare for all central banking system So a situation like this is the result of a pound of cure that an ounce of prevention would have made a huge difference|1 Oh thats surprising The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result|0 Thank you for the detailed explanation and the link to the guidelines Cheers|1 From what i understand they are now graduated and this new job is their reward in their next fase of brainwashing|1 Not going to comment on OP case in particular just want to say that the remission rate is fairly high for the hospitalized and more than half for respirator patients Do not risk your life with an ill planed advance directive that sound noble on paper but you might came to regret No respirator no resurrection on healthy people do not make sense|0 This I read an article a few days ago about how challenging it is to identify people on a flight Theres the privacylegal issues Come on if it were any other time wed be all up in arms about an airline divulging what flight we were on Theres figuring out who has the authority to make the request of the airline and how to go about it in a formal way You cant just call up The airlines only have to collect a minimum amount of information which does not include phone number or email IIRC an airline only has contact info for about 70 of passengers TSA which has more contact info cause they scan your ID doesnt apparently match you up with a flight|1 Because it will cause a panic Weve gone well past the point of containment|0 Thank you so much|1 That guy David on rhe Diamond Princessdescribed this nasal he said|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes earning money to not starve to death Im not willing to give up that lifestyle|1 Here in Italy in my town mostly boomers are outside they dont care about the lockdown|0 He also crossed state lines to do it pretty sure that can be another whole level of misery|1 Be kind to yourself |1 fuck this im out|0 Is manufacturing essential Is shipping and warehousing Do these folks still go to work even though it is neither medical care nor grocery shopping If not who will manufacture the medical equipment needed and who will deliver groceries to the stores|0 Why Does it make you uncomfortable Theres a 310 mile border between the two countries which is easy to cross|1 You can thank me by spreading the word |1 Recommendation is for the sick to wear one It DOES limit the distance the spittle and particles travel has the fabric absorbs the speed and energy Effectively stops it from being aerosolized as much However if a good sneeze expelled the virus from an uncovered face then the masks are Kmart less likely to help you the wearer|1 While thats perfectly true its not only Sweden which has done this Pretty much the entire West has drunk the globalism KoolAid|1 Im no fan of China especially not their government but its hard to imagine the WHO isnt being held by its balls by ultimatums|0 Ive been on this sub since shortly after its inception Been following the virus since early reports of a strange pneumonia outbreak in Wuhan I 100 agree with your assessment Its fucked up that our government despite having months of warning and time to prepare have done next to nothing Its fucked up that theyre testing capabilities are worse than nearly every other developed country Its fucked up that they are lying to us and telling us not to worry that the risk is low that we should pretend like everything is fine when they know things are about to get crazy Its insulting to our intelligence and it is incompetence of the highest order Our government has screwed the only chance it will ever have to minimize the spread of the virus|0 Exactly There are different types here this is the arrogant type Amusing to a point|0 It doesnt now but it definitely did up until early 20th century There were so many sanatoriums in Europe and North America dedicated to TB No idea why it wasnt included though|1 Wonderful It looks like Gods usual sense of humor in action youre thinking that youve managed to be one of the lucky ones that youre being cared for by medical professionals and you are able to relax after a couple months of worry At least now theres no chance of you being at home too sick to get yourself to the hospital and completely alone because you live by yourself Whew Thats great Or so you thought until the building tried to accomplish what covid19 was unable to pull off Sometimes you can almost hear giggling|1 my country was like that before corona|1 they are talking about using the CPU like a GPU replacing it|1 Disney people can be fanatical and I say this as a Disney person Im going to Disney World in May and was planning on going to Disneyland next month but Im going to skip Disneyland Im paying attention to FL pretty closely to see if I need to cancel WDW soon|1 Not sure if that will have a full impact Still being studied|0 Excuse me some of us have diagnosed anxiety disorders and control issues|0 I feel you I am going through the same issues I wrote her a letter to express everything I was considering and feeling That helped a bit|1 Then 1 asymptomatic carrier shows up to the party and the whole thing starts all over again with the people that evaded infection|1 Oh whats up my dude engineer here too Its just also important to remember that baristas of the previous generation made a living wage Thats all anybody wants To be able to afford to live on 40 hours of work a weekBut what is a living wage in their opinion Im sure the definition changes quite a bit To own a house To rent a luxury apartment To support a family To live in a shitty studio and eat frozen meals each day Somewhere in betweenA living wage is one of those ideas that makes sense on paper but everyones thoughts on what that means can vary so wildly Dont you think its a problem that so many people want to make a living wage doing jobs thatshould probably be done by kids in school or living with their parents And if one person stays in such a position for so long and suffers as a result isnt that kind of on them|0 I Cant Because My Employer coughcoronavirus Subaru of Indiana Automotive cough Is More Worried About Profit Than Employee Safety|1 Youre doing a bad job at moderating because you actually do your job correctly unlike every other sub Bravo|0 Yeah telling my mother who is in the high risk age group and working as a nurse that this is more than the flu is definitely just so I can feel superiorPeople are totally uninformed and unaware of this thing because our news is barely going into the details|0 Oooo I remember that was like 2 weeks ago wtf that guy totally called it|0 Tbh I assume its an issue of insurance and the like If a cafe closes on its own its a very different thing to being forced closed by government decree They may have access to insurance or government funding to cover the losses for the later|0 I dont think shes not going to the hospital because theres no vacancy Maybe a doctor friend can see the lump remotely|1 Uh you forgot work Its Sleep work eat repeatNot forgetting going back for your Reservist duties Falling sick and given 1 day MC Maybe visits from relatives asking when you are getting married|0 So I 33F just moved home to help my mom 70 take care of my dad 68 who is in a wheel chair I have been so grateful my mom is taking prepping seriously I have a theory that it is because they were raised by depression era parents and always had a stocked food pantry growing up While the virus might effect the elderly more i feel they are more mentally prepared for the social changed than many people my own age Many only keep 3 days worth of food in their house and have never lost cell service much less social unrest I asked my mom today if she expects to feed others as she is a youthyoung adult minister talked about leaving a crock pot on the front porch for those who dont have food|1 Maybe some of them have chronic diarrhea or something lmfao the only way I can explain their stupidity at this point|1 I got like six one gallon mylar bags full of powderd milk so Im set lol|1 STOP DONT DO IT THE PEOPLE Superman|0 The choices arent Everything is just peachy or PANIC AND RUN AROUND SCREAMING|0 Youre absolutely spot on Leaving it up to individual companies and giving no guidance is grim Costs the govt very little to give this advice|0 Needs a better source than the metro I looked up some of the names and couldnt find any original publication or even press release related to this This is likely at best a novel promising concept that is not at all close to implementation|1 You probably dont pay more a month than many people here honestly Many Americans still think its the Red Scare of the 1950s and our government ineptitude presently illustrated worsens that I think the government would be way less inept if people didnt vote for politicians that pushed cutting funding all the time|0 UBI could help solve both those problems Shut down non essential buildings and put money into peoples hands That would keep the ball rolling in terms with the economy and hopefully the shutdown will help stop the virus It doesnt have to be one or the other|1 Thats the most dangerous thing about this The media has conditioned people to automatically think theyre fear mongering|0 When 40 of Americans cant afford an unexpected 400 expensehttpsabcnewsgocomUS10americansstrugglecover400emergencyexpensefederalstoryid63253846 and 25 have gone without necessary medical care in the past year because they couldnt afford it then even the 1200 expense you cited is catastrophic|0 The access is determined on the local level My reading is the revamped CDC guidelines are that if a doctor orders it then get it done Any other delay is on the local level Why is that Maybe shortage of testing kits Other reasons|0 Just like the flash game pandemic2|1 Tedros the same guy who appointed former Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe as a WHO Goodwill Ambassador The same Mugabe who has a very poor record on human rights and presided over the general decline in Zimbabwes public health|0 Knox county Illinois At the Walmart no toilet paper and barley any paper towels a few baby wipes no jacks pizza no water no hamburger helper but still a good supply of milk and stuff like beef bacon hotdogs|1 Thats where the real benefit is going to be in the short run Vaccine next yearmaybe|1 Yes what are they|1 Yesterday the amount of suspected cases was nearly 30000 The website there is just using the new guidelines and treating the cases which got transferred from suspected to infected as having always been infected not suspected|0 Day cares are MUCH worse The kids are typically there longer sometimes from 6am6pm or even longer The kids are young and typically cant blow their noses and wash their hands alone Snot and spit gets everywhere Sometimes poop escapes too And vomit A teacher can walk around and wipe noses all day and kids will still openly sneeze cough and drool all over Toys go in mouths and theres literally no way to stop this from happening Hands go in mouths and noses and then on other kids and surfaces and toys I work at a preschool and it is the nastiest job Ive ever had And I worked at a vets office taking care of boarded dogs and cats in college|0 Oh yeah man when i was five I wanted to be just like him Later I wanted to be Michael Knight and have a talking car that or MacGyver|1 Theyll hold off for the Easter break Think they will do all they can to keep schools open for year 1113 and university students though Governments dont want to overreact like people think they did with the 09 swine flu|1 Because some people dont really develop much of a resistance to coronavirus and can get it just a few weeks afterwardIsnt that the elephant in the room that nobodys been talkin about Why are common cold viruses so common Is it because theyre easy to become immune to Proolly notOne of the qualities of the coronavirus is that it appears to have a shortlived antibodies in the human body The flu has antibodies that last for your entire lifetime and that produces cross strain resistantLimited immunity no cross strain immunity and herd immunity doesnt work because its not the flu where the antibodies last for 90 years BUT thats only my guesstimateOn the other hand the lethality may progressively go down as it mutates to adapt to the human lungs It could go up to but my guess is it will lose receptors and become less lethal over the decades Vaccine or not its still going to be around and its still going to kill people just like the flu manages to kill a pretty impressive amount of people even though we I know a lot about it and have vaccines|0 Not gonna lie you just got me to do a full 180Im a college student everybody around me is losing their damn minds It was scaring me too until earlier this week I heard many people say exactly that Oh you dont need to worry Only old people or people who are already seriously sick need to worry Ive been thinking good shit Coronavirus isnt actually so bad I guess Looks like I wont have to die at the ripe age of 19 Wasnt really thinking about the actual lives of the older or sick people Just the fact that they werent me Shit man I hope she turns out alright Its fucking cruel for people to be saying that it doesnt matter since it only kills the sick or elderly and Im no better than them for buying into thatSorry if Im over sharing here just feels like that comment had a surprisingly big impact on me Good luck with everything hope you and your family are all good|1 Pence is in charge of coronavirus One of the first things he did was gag all government officials from talking about it He also has a bad record for dealing with a disease outbreakhttpswwwpoliticocomnewsmagazine20200302howmikepencemadeindianashivoutbreakworse118648 and is arguably one of the worst people for our nation for that position at the moment I am concerned|0 How likely is it that cases like this are going to develop symptoms at some later date Now that we are testing some asymptomatic people and getting positives we may finally have data to back up the claims that the incubation period in some people may be quite long potentially more than 14 days Im not sure what would be scarier that a lot of people will be positive and infectious and never know it or that they will be positive and infectious and not know it for 2 weeks until they become seriously ill themselves|1 Keep in mind that only about 19 of cases require hospitalization So if there were 1000 in Washington cases right now only 190 would need to be admitted to a hospital In the whole state During cold and flu season And some of those wont have progressed to the point where they need a hospital yet I think this could easily fly under the radar|1 Ill update here when the CDC sees how upset I am on changeorg and gives me a call to thank me for letting them know what a silly oversight they had cant wait|0 And people are still filling bars beaches and being encouraged by somehttpswwwwashingtonexaminercomnewsgotobobevansandeatwestvirginiagovernorbreakswithotherstatesoncoronavirusguidance people to go out to places like Pubs and Bob EvansWeve not taken near the steps Italy or China have And all the experts seem to think that taking anything less than those steps will not be enough|1 The absolute WORST part of tragedies like this is all the misplaced fear and hatePersonally I think all the illness and death is the worst part|0 So the west conspired to make Iran and Assad stronger Im not following the logic|1 If the vision checks are annual that shouldnt be a problem for this application From what Im reading the build up comes if you take more than roughly 400 mg a day varies by your weight for five years Nobody is saying this should be taken for more than 12 days tops How nervous would you feel about taking double the dose each day for 1012 days Would you expect to feel more or less normal but just worry about how it could hurt you in the longer term|0 As you are aware National Guard and Reserve engineering medical water purification and Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear and Explosive CBRNE units have the capability to play a decisive role in combating the spread of the COVID19 virus and helping communities weather and recover from any outbreak Duckworth said in a letter sent to Esper on Friday I am concerned that the readiness of these units has not been assessed in any systematic fashion to date and that potential preparations for them to activate have yet to be takenCBRNE realistically CBRN units means essentially units specializing in decontamination Thats deep cleaning setting up hotlines setting up testing stations stuff like thatMedical units explain themselves as to why theyd get tappedWater purification units will likely have enough experience with contamination and understanding of the concepts enough to assist basic CBRNE tasksThis is all in theory the paragraph quote is expressing concern that individual Guard units have not been assessed to make sure they are up to what they need to be up to|1 Im in Northern Alberta and I have as well|1 Best quality of healthcare in the world yes|1 Where did you get that 226 number from For the GDP to shrink from 20182019 each US citizen would have had to spend 1318 less That includes infants as well so if we did it by household itd be 3400I agree with your conclusion but I think you underestimate just how much it takes to have a GDP decline|0 No weird at all the people getting super ill super fast are having a strong immune reaction|1 I was good until the WHO said this might be the tip of the iceberg|1 Because its simply not feasible on widescale even ignoring financialeconomicalpsychological costsAre policehospitalprisonemsfirefightershydro workers etc going to go too Whos going to deliverstock the shelves assuming enough stock to shut down for 14 days How will stocks be allocated without hoarding or shortages Oh ya the workers will be in quarantine tooIts just impossible logistically|0 Close schools close nonessential commerce encourage work from home and paid leave for workers ban mass gatherings restrict travel|0 Heres a link Ill update on main post too httpsgithubcomcmriversncovblobmasterCOVID19pdfutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 Slightly unfortunate the media has been running w stories about people w symptoms being charged 5k at the hospital to check their bloodsSomething tells me this will be a real test of the USAs individual payer system|0 This would not work for hospitality customer service nursing direct care etc I think it would be a tiny minority that could do this But those people DEFINITELY should be Companies are probably worried productivity will go down if they are at home But there are more important things to worry about right now|1 With the about 300 old from Brescia added today it is still an increase of over 200 compared to yesterday Damn|0 I was looking at all the ones on the right You wouldnt get the virus if you did all those Let people judge when theyve got the virus and decide whether not panicking was a good idea Coughing your lungs up and struggling for air is really no fun at all|0 Its insanity isnt it Why is everything within weeks nothing is now I want schools closed as soon as possible The fact that private schools and universities have closed because they arent government fundedruled I assume says everything People want safety and they do not want blood on their hands Boris will be bathing in the blood at this point|0 Youre right he didnt call it a conspiracy he called it a hoax|1 Where are they getting the money Is it taxes are they gonna tax me to pay me Why not tax the fucking corporations who never pay a dime on taxes to fund this|0 What happened to freedom of speech|1 i liked that movie f the haters|0 1 1 of hereditary positions in a parliament in 2020 is a travesty2 My point was also that UK freaking has a division between commons and lords Even if it was just in name it would be bad enough But its not just in namethere is obviously appointed positionsPositions appointed based on merit or apointed for other reasons are also two different things And the issue in UK is that way too many of the latter and they are not lost when the person has proven unfit for the job Every country has this issue but it is much much more prevalent in the UK than other Western countriesthere is also no proof that these guys are appointed on anything other than meritYou tried to use their titles as a proof of their merit If titles are not given based on merit then they are not proof of it End of storyper capita there is more research and studies done in the UK scientific community than anywhere else in the worldIts not the quantity its the quality Fradulent erroneous or manipulated research is worse than no research at all especially in medicine because it leads to direct harm to patients UK is famous far and wide for such research especially in the field of psychiatry that has kept back medical research into some diseases for decades For christsake UK published research on Lighting ProcesshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTheLightningProcess which is alternative medicine with secret protocol of which only thing is known that patients with physical illnesses stand on pieces of paper and yell at their illness And BMJ and Lancet both British are standing by itI can see you love your country and youre proud of it Any country has its virtues Giving titles is not one of UKs|0 He wants to wipe the shit slate clean|1 Thank you for making this post I saw so many people when the Hubeionly numbers came out today say yesterday cases grew 50 today only 25 so the outbreak is over Its really tragic the public doesnt have a better grasp of the intricacies of handling real data in real time|0 After January 23 when they realized how serious it was they did strong social isolation which made a huge difference Of course that isolation created a lot of difficulties for the people involved but they were able to stop the case spread Other countries will do it somewhat differently but a combination of testing and social isolation clearly works and that is all we have until we get a vaccine|0 The title of your post is sensationalized misleading or makes unsubstantiated claims Rule 3 Please use a title in accordance with our rule Include a sources original title in a post title whenever applicable Providing additional objective context such as the authors and the published journal is encouraged An editorialized sensationalized misleading or factuallyinaccurate title will result in a posts removal|1 Glory to Austotzka|1 How can you be part of that effort and yet so wrong andor short sighted 710 days is already 2 weeks too late good luck getting medical staff into work 2 months from now when they are all infected what in the honest fuck are you talking aboutAnd me panicking Not so much mate I feel rather prepared am just in disbelief at the UKs reaction or lack of|0 Just checking that includes Cannabis smokers yes|1 TranslationThe discovery of 12 Egyptians carrying the Corona virus a Taiwanese tourist of American descent who transmitted the virus to them on a Nile cruise ship Health The information was received by the World Health Organization we reported it to us we examined all contacts and transported the injured to the Isolation HospitalFriday 06 March 2020 0236 PMWalid Abdel Salam wroteIt revealed the Ministry of Health and Population and the World Health Organization for the discovery of the details of 12 positive cases of the virus emerging Koruna Kovid 19 carrier of the virus and did not show them any symptoms on board a Nile cruise coming from Aswan to Luxor GovernorateThe ministry said The details of the story are due to the fact that a Taiwanese tourist of American origin was on board the ship and upon her return to her country information was received from the World Health Organization and the International Health Regulations on the discovery of her coronavirus infectionShe continued The report of the organization indicated that it is the basic cause of infection for the cases that have been discovered index case noting that immediately the Ministry of Health and Population in accordance with the guidelines of the World Health Organization took all preventive and precautionary measures against those in contact with the case and made the necessary checks The Ministry confirmed that the health status of all those who had contact with her and who were with her on board the ship was followed up within 14 days and they did not show any symptoms indicating that analyzes of the pcr were performed on them on the 14th day ie at the end of the virus incubation period and it was found that there were 12 cases Positive for coronavirus that is virus carriers from the Egyptians working on the ship without symptoms The Ministry added that the 12 positive cases are being transferred to the hospital designated for isolation and that the remaining cases are being subjected to quarantine for another 14 days which is the incubation period of the disease to monitor their health and check on them It is worth noting that three cases of coronavirus Covid19 were announced in Egypt the first case of a foreign person who was a carrier of the virus and received excellent medical care and a pcr analysis was done for him under the supervision of the Ministry of Health and Population and according to the standards of the World Health Organization Several consecutive times most recently after spending 14 days inside the quarantine and the result of the analysis was negative every time and the quarantine left and the second case of a foreign person announced on last Sunday corresponding to March 1 2020 and was immediately isolated in the designated isolation hospital and he is receiving care His condition is stable and all his examinations confirm his condition Yeh in addition to the third case of Egyptian returnees from the state of Serbia through France transit for 12 hours and was transferred to the designated hospital for isolation and receive the necessary medical careIn this regard the Ministry of Health confirmed that once any injury is suspected it will be announced immediately in full transparency in accordance with the International Health Regulations and in coordination with the World Health Organization For his part Dr John Jabbour representative of the World Health Organization in Egypt stressed that the detection of these cases carrying the virus confirms the effectiveness and efficiency of the preventive plan that was developed by the Ministry of Health and Population to address the emerging corona virus and how to deal with infected cases when they are discovered praising the speed and transparency typical of the Egyptian government in notifying and dealing with The position and its keenness to inform the organization as soon as any case is suspected He said that the ministry continues to raise the maximum levels of readiness in all ports and airports at the republic level and follow up the situation in an uptodate manner regarding the emerging corona virus stressing that all preventive measures are taken And follow the Minister of Health and Population of the crisis management room which operates a 24 hour which includes representatives from all the ministries and departments concerned at the Ministry to follow the virus s position Corona emerging within the country and the ministry s plan of preventive ports and ports and all health directorates of the Republic|0 Everyone in GA will hit the Gulf Coast especially if they own a beach house or condo bc it will be safer for them to be there than here|1 I feel so bad for the Japanese I visited 2 years ago and the tourist board or city was already starting to run guided tours run by volunteers to be prepared and offer good tours when all the guests come The enthusiasm of those volunteers was so touching mostly retired gentlemen with very broken English giving their best to represent their city and looking forward to the olympics|1 anyways this sample while still very interesting is too small to make some conclusions i guess we have to wait before more statistical data like this is avaliableThis is just 78 more patients added to over 1000 I already foundhttpsiredditcomrCOVID19commentsfaluhvanexhaustivelitsearchshowsthatonly585sars|1 And those in the energy sector keeping the lights on at all the hospitals police stations etc|1 Thats not in the Koran but it is a widely practiced Hadith Mohammeds sayingThere is a rule in Islam called no harm that trumps every religious ritual rule and requirement Its why a Muslim could drink alcohol in ancient times for the pain of medical amputation or why Muslims can eat pork in famine They already suspended all pilgrimage and most mosques are closing down in Saudi ArabiaSo this is less a case of strict rules and more ignorance of the affordances built into the rules|0 Why would you want to own an MLB team So boring to watch and go to games|0 Also dont act like the virus is a death wish as well|0 Roche now Didnt you see that useless stock pump speech today Also 5m tests soon and Google|0 this is frustrating me I still dont know what the symptoms are not even google seems to know I hear its like flu then i hear its not that at all the i hear its a cold then it sint now i hear its mostly a fever but then i hear its full on pneumonia should i be worried about a soar throat and sniffles will i throw up what are the symptoms of pneumoniai dont even know|0 Yet it still kills 60000 people a year See the problem|0 Dont forget China|1 Alternative medicine like homeopathics and shit|0 Mosquitoes are one of the non critical eco species Wouldnt be the first time someone has said this about a species and its come back to bite us in the ass|0 Its not overreacting Being aware is the most important thing rn|1 Im doubtful anyone will do anything meaningful at my employer unt its too late Good on your for taking ownership of your own health|1 We aint got those We cant make them fast enough for healthcare professionals and the sick Surgical masks are availible and easier to produce They dont make you immune but they decrease risk of infection not by filtering air but from stopping you touching yourself|0 Chiming in from Beijing so far the city is a ghost town but mostly limited restrictions My compound temperature checks going in or out no delivery guys allowed in otherwise no restrictions Shops and malls Indigo Mall is still open Muji Blue Frog and the cosmetic shops as well as a few jewelry shops are still open All grocery stores and supermarkets are open No shortage of food whatsoever Sanitary supplies we got lucky and managed to buy face masks alcohol wipes and disinfectant at our local grocery story two days ago we arrived just as they got in a fresh shipment of face masks We cant find hand sanitizer anywhere so weve been making our own from Aloe Vera gel and pure alcohol look it up works greatDeliveries Shunfeng works like normal JD still doing next day delivery but leaves it at the compound gate still see a lot of food delivery men zipping around the city Work we are all either still on vacation or working from home at the moment Best wishes to all of you elsewhere in China especially Wuhan and Hubei|1 It would slow the spread I believe But those events are going to happen and are happening lol So we wont be able to slow the spread Plus its probably already spread much further than we know|1 Now were asking shocked pikachu face|0 China is at fault but what will that meanwe take our business elsewhere and we leave them to fix their own problems we come back and check periodically|0 Disney parks in the United States will not shut down httpswwwopensecretsorgorgssummaryphpidd000000128|1 They need coffee Or food snacksLots of people are not into preparing food at home Or theyre not very good at it Might be hard for them to switch habits overnight|0 Maybe they should all just eat leaves Thatll surely save them from Wuhan Clans deadly technique|1 Wrestlemania in Tampa must surely be cancelled now|1 Are these my quotes or im just translating hereStill dunno why is it so hard to grasp for you|0 Shave it Now is not the time to be worrying about having a moustache I shaved all my facial hair And so did my father Its just more safe and sanitary this way|1 Twin Cities MN is starting to panic Stores have been sold out of all coldflu medicine hand sanitizer plastic gloves and face masks for weeks Were now adding toilet paper sanitizing wipesspray and hand soap to the list of out of stocks Running low on pain meds canned items and soup frozen vegetables meals and vegetarian items also frozen pizza is getting cleared out Every single person at my work today Trget whether coworker or customer mentioned the corona virus Some more worried than others but everyone is talking about it And we are now telling customers No we are out of face masks hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes We will not be getting moreMy wife is at the Mayo Clinic unrelated and heard people screaming about a quarantine today Im immune compromised and we are getting real fucking scared I think Im going to stop going in to work|0 Shamed you say I believe if that were possible it would have happened dozens of scandals ago|0 You dont get it Theyre not going to test because its already too lateStock up roll the dice make your peace with the fact youre going to get sick|1 Best version I seen Styx has one but its so so audio quality leaves much to be desired|1 uoutrunningman and that is exactly where my comments came from in my thinking process Absolutely 100 agree Shit just got real and its just beginning|0 My grandfather lost his sister in Philadelphia in 1919 due to this|0 Reddit socialism good taxes on people who need money bad taxes on people who make millions a day good|1 He hasnt taken any meaningful measures whatsoever The measures hes taken are comparable to a drop of fresh water in an ocean|0 We have a trip booked to Universal in April I got travel insurance when I booked it in September so for now we are just waiting to see what its going to be like|1 That sounds odd|0 If they can contain this itll be a no contest reelection for TrumpThat aside they should straight up commandeer factories to make PPE equipment suits masks gloves 247That factory president who decided that theyre not going to expand because everyone left him after the MERS was over Pay him double with guaranteed 5 year incomeWe should be buildingconverting buildings to hold infected people and everyone should be learning about how to use PPE Not to mention all the other ways that people forget wash hair and clothes and sheets in addition to hands MERV 12 HVAC filters for multifamily buildings door knobshandles telephones mobile phones touchscreens at grocery stores tongs at buffets cafeterias elevator buttons escalator handrails etc etc|0 This is an important point Sweden listens to thier scientists Denmark closes the borders to make people feel safe not nececarily make them same|1 Health above wealth But my fullest sympathies with struggling businesses |1 I had pneumonia 15 years ago when I was in my twenties due to a viral infection I was hospitalized I have asthma The mucus does accumulate but I was on oxygen for a week They couldnt do much except giving me the usual asthma Ventolin puffer Advil and some expectorantI bought an oxygen concentrator nebulizer O2 finger reader thermometer blood pressure monitor meds and an ample supply of food Ready to stay home for 3 months Not willing to risk with another pneumonia and fighting for every breath of life again|1 Seriously what a douche bag|0 Yesterday it is contained nwToday the opportunity to contain has passed|1 DOW plummets 100 points the moment Fox announces hes pushed the meeting back to 320 pm lmao|1 Never feel bad about keeping up with current news This is something I believe should be checked everyday|1 I planted lettuce and other green leafy vegetables Something fresh will be nice to have|1 We have one child that started a fever last night so they are now at home for the next 7 daysOur other child is symptom free but we arent going to be able to maintain the isolation guidelines between them so we have told the school that the other wont be coming in as a precaution|0 Conservatives Cut funding causing personnel and equipment shortagesAlso conservatives looks like the government cant do anything right we must privatise|1 Well Barcelona isnt better Its actually worse Last time I was in Barcelona I saw more crackheads than I saw business people But yeah I totally agree As long as the globalist project EU exists were to smile and open our hearts anuses to anyone and everyone|1 Another thing to consider logistically lets say we all go out on a massive weekend sesh in vast numbers hoping to get infectedWe dont know how many infected will have no symptoms When do you stop trying to get infected in that case When you dont know if you are because of lack of side effectsHow many innocent old and vulnerable people could become infected as a consequence because of it|0 Same here I take it for uctd and I really hope we will not run out of it Its the only medicine available for autoimmune disorders that doesnt suppresse the immune system |1 Finally A proactive move for the masses and not just the imported affected people|1 Their health improve Criticals become serious and some die serious improve to infected or recovered|0 Go take a walk or a jog Get some fresh air While youre exercising think about the things that are most important andor enjoyable to youThen go home and do them Beer and board games with friends Invite them over enjoy life You have no control over a lot of important things including the Covid19 virus So do what you can do to make life easier if you need to selfquarantine and then go back to living your life All you can do is all you can do Accept that and move on|1 Theyve already confirmed one of the earliest cases as covid19 6 days after they died The lack of testing is criminal at this point|0 IF you see that happen you KNOW its a rigged election and shits gonna hit the fan here|0 CCP is dumb as fuck|0 I dont buy anything you have to say In response to the mod you said that you added the word out of fear Now I read this and the more I think you are feeling some sort of high out of the attention your fear monger behavior causes You are not the only one to do this but damn son Have some awareness|0 I just got a chinese almost as a solidarity gestureThe chicken tasted very bad to be honest but unless Ive somehow contracted it via dodgy chicken then it means Ive helped a littleSad thing is it is Saturday night and it reached me within 10 minutes when it usually takes about 4560 minutes This means they have very little business|0 Even if its Just like the flu I still dont want to get the flu if I can avoid it|0 I hope to Christ they can Husband has asthma and had had pleurisy oncehell probably be fine tho He works with a surprisingly mature group for what he does nobody under 35|1 I also imagine someone did the math No quarantine and you lose 410 of your population Vs quarantine and you lose 5 of this years economic production|0 Other provinces havent had the virus long enough for as many fatalities to occur|0 Scientists in and outside China agree that reinfection is a highly unlikely explanation for the patients who retest positive They say testing errors are more likely to blame either false negatives that resulted in patients being discharged too early or false positives when they retested and were taken back into hospitalTheres hope there|1 Same Texas I just renewed my very limited free for women healthcare Ive never go to a doctor unless Im very sick apart from migraines and even tried to tough out what I later learned was bronchitis for months a few years back|0 I want to know if there is any connection between these cases such as the same hospital|1 Except Tedros cant say that because that would be telling the truth|1 I think its very possible that the shared experience we are about to endure together in the US if things get bad may drastically change our politics in a more collectivist direction Being rich and having good insurance wont do you much good if all the hospitals are at 2x capacity Also if things get bad Trumps reelection chances seem slim|1 Thank you so much Its a my job and a commitment I have made to heal people in whatever capacity I can I was made for this I show love to every patient and family I meet I know it is scary and yet I put on my brave face on and do what needs to be done I dont doubt my power and my abilities When Im home its a different story Stay safe and thank you|1 Oh dear a drain on for profit insurance companies|1 Here is a relevant sourcehttpsqzcom1810508covid19canlikelyliveupto96hoursonyourphone The novel coronavirus can likely live up to 96 hours on phone screens The virus COVID19 can also likely live on the surfaces these droplets touch sometimes for multiple days says Rudra Channappanavar an immunologist who has studied coronaviruses at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center Glass in particularlike the kind on screen of the smartphone youre probably reading this oncan harbor live coronaviruses for up to 96 hours or four days at room temperature|1 Ahhh just saw the screenshot Way to be out in a big crowd of people there ya nimbus mask or not Maybe you are a first responder maybe you found this shot somewhere else but stay the fuck home now would ya Prolly a good idea deleting your OP Hope you end up ok|1 I sometimes get things the same day I order because Im so close to a center deliveries are pushed back 4 to 5 days here as well|1 The guy currently on the ship said in his AMA that they were told they cant leave until after the quarantine was overBuuuttttt they also found out 41 more people had tested positive from the news So the passengers arent being updated consistently|1 I can almost promise you anyone who has entered those facilities in the last week are infected If you dont have coronavirus before you go to the hospital you will afterwards Fortunately most of these employees are young healthy and will recover readily and probably can work with symptoms with their numbers can easily cohort COVID staff with COVID patientsOn that topic the onboarding might take too long but if you want to help and you have any sort of credentialing go ahead and apply|1 A friend saw him in Dallas last time he was here and made me wish Id gone Not my normal style of music but I can enjoy and appreciate talent regardless of genre|1 The pain is too real Good luck out there|1 Stop drinking Itll also help with your ED|1 Still got a Wearing masks will likely increase your infection headline in my Apple News today Been getting them since the bushfire season can they stop Im really tired and sick of them|0 Plus I should probably add that assuming the population at higher than average risk being men people over 50 people with high blood pressure cardiovascular disease diabetes smokersSo Im thinking that is at least half of management and small business owners which employ most of my country and probably of yours as well And I happen to know the statistics for small businesses being taken over by children of the owners in my country show an increased risk of bankruptcy in the next years not dramatic but still So that sounds like not great for the economy if these small business owners and management die since it would seem they are a factor in the businesss succes somewhat I mean if you want to look at it from an economic point of view Nevermind 50 year olds have children still in school more often than not and the death of a parent has been shown to have significant effects on wellbeing and school performance of children during many years after the death and not just briefly like some people seem to think and both education level and wellbeing are somewhat predictive of productivity later on in life economically speakingFunny how no one likes the idea of euthanasia on request by geriatric patients but when its a natural virus its like lolz only kills grandpa and grandma Pretty stupid|1 Does anyone want to comment on how US Corona positive counts were 1300 yesterday 1700 this morning and now suddenly is 1200 something on the John Hopkins site|1 There were posts about the mysterious illness at the Wuhan market back in december already in Hong Kong so I wouldnt be surprised that it was in Taiwan tooLots of anti CCP in both places so anything potentially negative will be magnified in these areas Also helps that both places can read Chinese unlike other western countries that will have a slow trickle of initial information due to the language barrier|0 Rip bud tragic end to a man just beginning his life and starting a family|0 Stay safe and keep us updated|1 Dont know why youre being downvoted when your real intention is to praise Singapore Heres an upvote|1 Then theyll suffer the consequences|0 trump wont pay Hell run out on the bill before paying Hes a deadbeat with bad credit|1 California is special They deregulated and it cost them big time|1 Well shit Im supposed to move to the area in mid April|0 Chinese numbers are bogus because of Chinese Communist Party fudging data to mimic competency Xi is in chargeAmerican numbers are bogus because of incompetence Our winner leader thinks corona virus is just a cold and media fears are a conspiracyAnd he was more concerned about his ratingsPandemics arent capitalist or socialist arent Democrat or Republican Pandemics are nature and science not politics or religion addresses nature adequately Looks like whoever is in charge in the worlds two largest economies are more concerned about their power and wealth than they are the rest of usWe need to be better prepared next time should a more virulent pandemic arrive This one looks like 1918 I fear one that looks like 1343|1 No question but just to let you know that there people out here supporting you And respect to all of you there I bet a lot of other places would have drowned in civil war like situations being in your place Its amazing how civilized you take this tremendously tough situation Stay strong and safe I pray for the best for you and your family|1 Look at their eyes Most of them are like deer in headlights They dont know wtf is going on in the real world|1 Thats the thing I cant tell if its just what he says it is or if hes actually sick I cant test him I cant even take his temperature I just dont know so Im staying home in the event he is infected Theres nothing I can do about him|0 Waaaaaaaaoooooooo reaaaally WTF man This will discourage people from even testing We r Fucked|0 Its not even a taste really The thing with UBI is the idea that youll have money to cover basic needs forever No need to horde it or even be careful with it Spend it on whatever doesnt matter youll get more next monthIt would be absolutely fucking amazing for small businesses and horrid for places like Walmart Great for low income or middle class terrible for the elitesThats how you know itll never happen|1 Your right Americans will ONLY admit to not being the best at one thing And its mens soccer|0 Whoat a joke indeed|1 Italy has mostly stopped testing asymptomatic patients especially in Lombardy the region which has the worst contagion situation to concentrate the resources so there are likely already 5x or 10x more actual cases|0 Very simple way to get people to listen to orders Its a national emergency deploy the National Guard and enforce the curfew with stiff penaltiesBut that shouldnt be done without ensuring peoples financial security at the same time The stimulus check better be in the mail when the lockdown is announced|1 Fake news Trump never lies and already said the virus will go away and not to worry about it s|1 Worse than Stalin|0 I had ChineseAmerican customers in tears shipping boxes of masks back home at this time That article was a high oh FUCK when I read it|0 No one offered the test kitsThe WHO said heres what you need in your test kits The US ignored that Delays ensuedhttpswwwpropublicaorgarticlecdccoronaviruscovid19testhttpswwwpropublicaorgarticlecdccoronaviruscovid19testThe federal agency shunned the World Health Organization test guidelines used by other countries and set out to create a more complicated test of its own that could identify a range of similar viruses But when it was sent to labs across the country in the first week of February it didnt work as expected The CDC test correctly identified COVID19 the disease caused by the virus But in all but a handful of state labs it falsely flagged the presence of the other viruses in harmless samplesGet a grip get educated|1 We need these tests for congressman wealthy and NBA stars|1 Well which experts I keep reading here that the WHO experts are hiding or ignoring the truth Same for the CDC Same for national governments in almost every country These are all experts too|0 In Mississippi the county right below Memphis they just said Monday will be off for cleaning the schools and then will resume on Tuesday Hopefully they get some sense and follow what everyone else is doing|1 People always say this buy acknowledge how North and South Korea both are able to coexist in these international organizations when neither deny being the only true Korean state|1 Youre not alone Im a freelancer in advertising communications who needs my skills in a pandemic and have a bit of emergency money but not enough for months on end Have friends with small businesses and theyll have enormous problems too The Government MUST come up with something to sort the financial situation of all the SMEs like us or the country is utterly screwed|0 Just use Google Takes seconds Figures an Aussie wouldnt be able to figure that out and started crying instead|0 NO NO NO NO|0 This information was copied from the COVID19 worldometer httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirussymptomsmildBased on all 72314 cases of COVID19 confirmed suspected and asymptomatic cases in China as of February 11 a paper by the Chinese CCDC released on February 17 and published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology has found that 809 of infections are mild with flulike symptoms and can recover at home 138 are severe developing severe diseases including pneumonia and shortness of breath 47 as critical and can include respiratory failure septic shock and multiorgan failure in about 2 of reported cases the virus is fatal Risk of death increases the older you are Relatively few cases are seen among children|0 Hella late for this fellow holy shit As if 16 000 lies werent enough|0 Not sure what youre referring to High alcohol concentration hand sanitizing should help but if youre talking about drinking alcohol then no|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or 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from super villains by threatening to spit in the faces of those who would do injustice|1 The dying US middle class lost all of its money to the workers from other countries who are now not in poverty well and the wealthiest business ownersinvestors who outsourced the jobs Billions of people were helped but that doesnt mean much to the Americans who are living far worse than their parents did|0 I just lost brain cells thanks|1 I dont understand the thinking in WHO slow playing the pandemic angle Surely getting people more used to the idea of global spread is better than waiting until the SHTF and then announcing pandemic I feel like it will instigate more mass panic to have a pandemic announced as people are recognizing more cases of sickness or even death in their own community There will be a run on stores etc If they announced it now it would give people more time to get used to the idea before it became scary or real to them by affecting people they know|0 There was a comment on here a while ago about autopsy evidence I thought it would be helpful to share the publicly available document issued recently by the Royal College of Pathologists in the UK It gives some insight into the care required to perform such an autopsy and also references the public health and government agencies involved in diagnosis management and containment|1 Tough to say The clean diet might be the biggest advantage youve got Overall youre most likely in the better side of the bell curve Youre most likely in a good position but its really just theory Bodybuilding doesnt necessarily mean you have improved cardio respiratory function over the general population SAID principle Specific Adaptation To Imposed Demands states you basically get what you train for If you follow more of a CrossfitHigh Intensity Interval Training blend of training you might further improve your chances by having improved lung function plus the whole other host of benefits derived from really going at a workout with a high heart rateBut if its a slow 5x5 starting strength style or bodybuilder type workout youre stronger might have a better immune system too Its tough to say All we can really do is speculate at this point Its better than if you didnt Overall Your age is your advantage too Not too young Not too old Generically speaking more movement exercise is betterStay on top of sleep diet tho|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17711 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices45974 uKebapSamurai at 2 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 The thing is I still remember their phone number Amazing advertising campaign|1 No it would appear theyre not theyre doing stats on one epidemic compared to epidemiologists who have studied many epidemics and pandemics who know that the naive CFR is the best way in an early epidemic to get an estimate The way worldmeters does it relies on knowing how long it will take each person die which obviously wont be the same with every case Both are methods are flawed but epidemiologists make their estimates on more data than the equations alone provide|0 Not to knock Canada but Ive never even heard of anyone planning a vacation there when its warm and we arent under a pandemic My sister was distinctly disappointed when she won an all expenses paid vacation to Banff of all places |1 Dont worry I work at US Cellular and they sent us pretty much the same email We will stay open until we deem it unsafe for our employees to work thanks for at least acting like you care about us|1 Yes it may have decreased but it is still expensive regardless making antibodies in bioreactors isnt exactly dirt cheap I know as well that some of the big concerns of the investigators of the VRC01 trial speaking to people involved in the clinical trial is the issue of scalability of a passive immunization regimen How are you going to administer many mg of antibody via IV to millions of people The antibody they mention in this Reddit post would it need to be administered only once or many times over a couple of weeks Those are legitimate questions that need answering unfortunately and are certainly limitations of antibody vaccines|1 They saved case number in one in Usa with it If u look deeper you will learn more Its gonna work I hope|1 Our friends re throwing a birthday party in two weeks I am refusing to go but my live in boyfriend wants to I pray more restrictions go into effect soon to discourage such selfish behavior|0 It was an accidental release from their bio weapons facility or so the theory goes|0 It can irritate your lungs|0 Truth is there needed to be aggressive purging of bad and political prior staff there a thorough audit of expenditures and an enforced targeted spending budgetLike 3 years agoBut what I saw happening was coordinated hits on each T appointee after the next in HHS and CDC after the prior Director quit seemingly to embarass them into resigning along with mass obstructive and massively distracting to WH focus and staff intensive actions by MY SIDE to protect their asses and political power in the face of an unplanned for lossUp until about a month ago its been a shitshow of epic wasteful proportions by entrenched govt staff to Congress with anything at all NOT involving war spending or actions obstructedCurrent director is from outside the govt service pool and seemed to refuse to buckle under and resign over the last year in the face of similar attacks on his integrity Suspect there has been at least SOME efforts to find and deal with the entrenched problems but that is a hard slog when all staff is against change and wants you goneAnd now this hits and its too late to clean house|0 The happiest and more tolerant corpses on earth s|1 Some places can cover up the deaths Lets say a bunch of people in rural China were to get sick and die Do you think China would be honest and release their numbers or keep them hidden to make it seem like they have a better handle on the situation|1 Same here except in a busy restaurant in a store way to many people acting like nothings happening|1 Source for the claim that they shot somebody is an anonymous commentor on a Chinese websiteIt is the equivalent of using a random 4chan post or a post from the comments section of daily mail as evidence that a western country carried out a similar act Ridiculous|0 Its a very serious question Burning incense has been linked to cancer and respiratory disease as has any form of inhalation of combusted materials|0 Lol that thread that was a guess and at no point did I tell anyone it definitely is a bioweaponIts so obvious how illiterate half the people in this website are when they cant see someone entertaining an idea isnt the same as claiming it I said it was suspicious and worth investigatingAlso not sure what in my post history indicates no background Not sure if you are clairvoyant or Sherlock Holmes or just stupid Ive got plenty of science related shit on my profile detective so sorry but you didnt catch anyone this time|0 Hey well take it Any positive news is good news|1 Im going to put on my Docs and a stupid green hat and try my hardest to believe Im at Cask n Flagon Next round is on me friend 3|0 Where can I get garden wire Sorry frantically looking that up|0 Bingo And even if the virus is present the amount of the virus also affects whether it will take hold or not Its almost a game of attrition Having a nice mostly sealed mask with a filter is gonna boost your numbers big time|1 Smart Cant have any cases if you dont do any testing|1 I live in Seattle and we can get Prime Now from more locations than just WF and Amazon I cant remember all of them but one is Bartell a local pharmacy chain and another is I think a pet storeAlso at least here there is not 100 overlap between Fresh and Prime Now suppliedbyAmazon You can still order on Fresh separately but Im not sure why you would|1 Fox news being 100 conservative biased news network|0 Senator Blumenthal is a known liar who lied about serving in Vietnam for years hes also a pedo who dated his 16yr old wife when he was already well into his 30s I dont believe a word this partisan shill says|0 Nations should immediately treat Singapore the way they are treating ChinaSingapore is the wests money laundocracy in SE Asia and where a lot of multinationals HK operations decamped to due to the protesting Western governments are quick to ban people from official enemies but not official allies|0 So why does anyone pay for treatment then|0 Consider that coronaviruses typically demonstrate poor immunity following natural infection andor vaccination|0 Thank you for the link As a layperson I read this as If a direct caregiver of a person who is in quarantine in the US due to travel from Wuhan or any other confirmed patient is infected this is NOT sustained community transmissionIm really hoping they have some definition that they can share like1 10 people2 Of nonrelation3 Geolocated within x miles4 Who have not traveled off continent in x days5 Who have not been a caregiver or close contact per contact tracing of a diagnosed patient6 OR 7 Has hopped from first patient to 3 4 generations of transmission x timesSustained community transmissionNot sure if things are as defined as that though|1 Once the current airlines fail new ones will emerge and they will be better managed Lets pray for that in ALL walks of life Failure is the best teacher|1 Panic buying more than likely We have a fuckton of senior citizens here|0 It also shows that during a crisis the enemy of my enemy is my friend really does happenI mean imagine telling a French man or Spanish man 5600 years ago that France and England would fight together as allies International Politics are far less rigid than many think|0 S Korea which is way ahead of every other country in testing is testing 20K every dayhttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasia51836898 Thats 73M if they maintain that rate for a year or 80M in 11 yearsIm not sure Iran has that capacity for production but it could be doable if they spend all their resources on testing instead of other vital tasks Totally unlikely thoughEdit Italys of people tested is 13 of SKs and I cant imagine Iran testing anywhere close to as many as Italy|1 We went up by a factor of eight in seven days Given increased testing we should pass them in a week if we have the tests for them and all the negatives|1 He deserves a medal Although hes still a registered AE nurse I really hope he can continue teaching us on Youtube instead of going to the frontline|1 This This is why China is welding people in They ALREADY know this shit while were pretending we dont know and it will cost EXTRA lives But we Its just flu bro|0 Vietnamese here the best way to treat the patients having the viruses that cause cold is to let the fresh air come to your patient room as well as luckily VN also has humid tropical climate that these viruses are very very scared of That is also the advice that the doctors give us to ventilate your rooms houses everyday to make your health better|1 Im not an expert on virus transmission but my thinking is that if youre near someone infected with Coronavirus and they sneeze or cough near you the mask will more or less block the viral particles from entering into your body so you dont breath them inI mean why are most people in other countries wearing them Are we right or wrong I dont understand the discrepancy|0 Hold on does this mean that there are reinfections cases in Taiwan They only have 18 confirmed cases A reinfection would require a different strain right|0 Flying coronavirus class Photos of American Diamond Princess passengers flight from hellhttpsnypostcom20200222flyingcoronavirusclassphotosofamericansflightfromhellhttpsnypostcom20200222flyingcoronavirusclassphotosofamericansflightfromhellx200BCoronavirusstricken cruise ship passengers returned to US against CDC advicehttpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtmlhttpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtmlCDC officials however warned against evacuating the infected due to concerns over reexposing healthy passengers to the virus When State Department and administration officials decided to go through with the evacuation the CDCs principal deputy director Anne Schuchat requested not to be included in the news release announcing the decisionhttpswwwstategovjointstatementbyusdepartmentofstateandusdepartmentofhealthandhumanservicesonrepatriationofamericanpassengersfromthediamondprincesscruiseshipx200BTrump Has Sabotaged Americas Coronavirus Responsehttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponsehttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponseAs it improvises its way through a public health crisis the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemicFor the United States the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable In 2018 the Trump administration fired the governments entire pandemic response chain of command including the White House management infrastructure In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the US government the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response the White House urgently needs to clarify what it isnot just for the public but for the government itself which largely finds itself in the dark|0 Well when I get the big blow off from warning people I know to prepare I just say Alright dont prepare more stuff for me But I think you should leave out that you are preparing though|1 If cytokine storm hits ya regardless of how healthy and in shape you are youre fucked|0 Considering they will most likely need additional training have to deal with employee shortages and we have no way of actively testing for the virus thats exactly whats going go happen|0 You said y youre disappointed with the local authorities but are you disappointed in the central government as well|0 People still think everything will be ok with the economy next week is going to be a bloodbath on stock markets imo|1 So sadly Tom Hanks is our rock Hudsonthats depressing and utterly terrifyingThe world will not end with a bang but a whimper|0 Heh thats what you get when you dont take precautions|0 Sometimes I cant load content with Adblock Plus and Ghostery Does this happen with Pihole If so could I set up a script on my Mac to SSH into the Pi and allow ads for one page or one site Is it easier than thatI literally got interested in this eight hours ago I dont have a Pi I didnt know what Pihole was before this morning You mentioned it so I have no choice but to ask you for help ThanksEDIT I mean the content cant load for technical reasons So does Pihole get around that as well|1 50 Cent PartyThe 50 Cent Party or 50 Cent Army Chinese is a colloquial term for Internet commentators Chinese who are hired by Chinese authorities in an attempt to manipulate public opinion to the benefit of the Communist Party of China It was created during the early phases of the Internets rollout to the wider public in China The name derives from the allegation that commentators are said to be paid 050 for every post though some speculate that they are probably not paid anything for the posts instead being required to do so as a part of their official Party duties They create favourable comments or articles on popular Chinese social media networks that are intended to derail discussions that are unhelpful to the Communist Party and that promote narratives that serve the governments interests together with disparaging comments and misinformation about political opponents and critics of the Chinese government both domestic and abroad PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Thats alright |1 Fair enough thanks for the clarification|1 No it CAN mean that but its not inevitable Look at the Miami mayor A lot of people dont even realize they are sick On the Diamond Princess more than half were described as asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic Thats why its so dangerouspeople who dont feel sick spread it around without realizing it|0 Thank You so much for posting this Just posted it to another Covid19 Community Everyone needs to hear this it would save so many lives|1 Yep these are 35 bucks at your local store|1 Same pretty much over here We are in WA jan 6th we got real sick I was crying cause it was so bad Im better but since then Ive had two times where I thought I had gotten sick AGAIN It would only last a day or two I hit natural remedies very very very hard and this had been a part of my life before any of this started I have lots of recommendations if anyone wants some help in their self care to stay as healthy as possible|1 I heard they were going to test general people currently in ICU to see who has it but I might be wrong|0 What a shame I dont hold ill will against the people in China I could see all kinds of other countries potentially doing a similar thingWestern countries would not haveThe people in China are victims of their own dictatorship|0 You do that and the plebs will revolt Giving them human rights What are you thinking|1 I sure as fk didnt Dont lump is all in one bowl I was protesting this government when they were shooting at us|0 Bought it a month ago like the smart people|1 No official cases Only rumors|0 Spring breakers will definitely bring it back to American universities from Mexico|1 It isnt clear at all what the criteria is to be tested and who makes these decisions|0 My question is even if we get a corona vaccine are people going to get it We have a flu vaccine and people choose not to get it People look for a cure in moments of fear but as time goes by and there is no news outlet people go back to who they were cause nothing happened to them All I am saying is people should be taking precautions their whole life in keeping things clean and washing their hands because there is plenty of diseases out there so do not be blinded by just one mainstream virus|0 Yep exactly I was worried the virus was going to spread last week during Super Tuesday But this voting week is going to be even worse now that the virus is actually prevalent in the country This shits about to explode out of control|0 I think the fact that the generations alive in the Western world havent really faced any major hardship in their lifetime induces a strong normalcy biashttpsenwikipediaorgwikiNormalcybiasI live in Asia and from day one of this epidemic becoming public knowledge both the government and the people took it seriously and acted accordingly wearing masks distancing themselves working from home canceling events postponing travels avoiding malls etcThey knew from the SARS days that an upfront and selfinflicted pain changing their social habits regardless of the economic consequences would ultimately be less damaging than the delayed but lingering pain of letting the epidemic spread far and wideThe West is not dumber nor is it incapable of acting diligently altruistically or with discipline but they just need to be reminded of this lesson Nobody alive can recall the 1918 Spanish Flu Historical lessons need to be relearnt every now and then Its true in all aspects of life and quite visible in the political experiments of the 2010s Dont be too hard on your fellow citizens whove never faced this situation beforeIf any good comes out of this its that the current generations and perhaps our lifestyles economies and supply chains will be slightly more resilient as a result of learning this expensive lesson once more|1 The pneumonia symptom in Covid 19 is more severe so the overall death rate is around 10 times higher than in seasonal flu Thats a difficult number to nail down it could be more severe than that And its really severe for elderly people or those with existing respiratory conditionsAdd to this that as a new virus no one has immunity to this in the world which means everyone is likely to catch it if not contained|0 Omg I watched that too Whats utterly amazing to me is that Seattles proposal includes the option of creating a CORDON SANITARE just like the show |1 Irony Youre on Reddit Reddit loves censorship|1 Thats good to hear Are people going to the clinics to actively test themselves yet if you have respiratory symptoms fever Or do you observe a lot of denial happening as well Im from Hamilton so Im assuming things arent that different there in comparison to Toronto|1 Especially the doctors on the front line over there So many of them apparently did not realize the importance of hand washing|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Hey man I have a hard time trusting a majority of what the Chinese government says but thats about the limit of my conspiracy theory Occams razor explains a lot of what happened Breakdown of communication governors and local leaders trying to sweep it under the rug etc Im just here because I find it interesting how the whole process works It actually keeps me from freaking the fuck out about it because I can counter someones panicked uninformed posts with actually they do x y and zIm getting REALLY tired of people posting that biotech lab link though We get it there was a lab there theres no evidence that we got a Resident Evil situation going and it still points to someone eating some weird stuff and spreading it can you stop posting that link now|0 They need to be given top priority to healthcare and receive hazard pay|1 Ehh idk of dying from rejection is that great either lol|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The fuck are you talking about lmao How is that shaming Its a good thing the cases are discovered There is clearly 0 negative intentions in the titleAre yall 13 Wtf|0 Please remember that the flu and covid19 isnt the same kind of disease So a one to one comparison isnt really that useful|0 China wanted to harm the US They legit would scarfice cities for this Which they did Yey chinaaaa Also yeah recoveries ur mom How if they have no medical staff no more|0 That is still a huge difference in particular in terms of the percentage of population that has the highest death rate|0 oops sorry replied to the wrong comment|0 I havent foundseen toilet paper in a store in a week but Im an idiot who cant ever remember what I have at home so I already have a pack in all three bathrooms anyways|0 I think he was already warned before but he decided not to adhere to the rules|0 So heres a idea lets follow a strategy like they are following in Asian countries that does work|1 i feel you ive got like 2 rolls of TP because im not a psychopath and now I wonder what happens when i run out and all the idiots are home building their TP forts and every time the store gets a resupply the hoarders are there and eventually an entirely new society with its own caste system traditions and mythos develops around TP and Im left out in the cold|1 Thats the major problem dishonest workers using sick time frivolously My job has PTO and a very generous occurrence policy However these were put into place by the Union The company still treats us poorly which means most employees have a lack of respect for the company If the company treated us better Im sure wed have fewer unnecessary call outs|0 You Might have something relevant there nice deduction But also air conditioning take away a Grest amount of humidity from the air It should probably mean air gets kinda cleaned|1 This whole situation makes me feel so helpless I work in a supermarket where a lot of the staff my age have the they cant tell me not to go to a party mentality No sense of responsibility at allI keep hearing the idiotic Facebook post comparisons how cancer kills more people the flu kills more people how its government propaganda I mainly isolate myself from those people in particular who knows if they even wash their handsIts really worrying to see so many countries shut their schools while ours want to keep them open especially given how people here arent taking the virus seriously and get mad at you if you move away from them when they cough their lungs out in your face|0 Theres nothing stopping them acting independently|1 Classic American apathy|0 Na Hui nice name pizdec blyat|1 Why is Italy getting hit so hard Compared to other countries sans China there are a LOT of deaths and seriously ill patients|0 Oh now Im happy This is amazing of them and I cant wait to get stuck in|1 Huh The cdc is full of shit half the time You need to watch what is going not put your tv on mute and watch What they are saying makes zero sense as to what they are doing|0 To prevent public panic making the situation worse and harder to control|0 So whos going to hold trump responsible for rejecting a WHO test when it was offered weeks ago and wanting to not test so the numbers would stay low|0 Thats kind of scary bringing in retired doctors Im sure most are good to come back but I have known a few who needed to retire a few years before they finally did because they were losing their grip on what was going on Had one send my grandmother for a prostate exam Lol Poor lady went to the appointment too and confused all the staff she talked to about why she was there That doctor retired not long after Lol|0 You can freeze half gallon cartons of it if needs be|1 No the reason I ask is because most PCPs are asking patients if theyre worried to call and ask for an action plan as to what they want you to do should symptoms develop If your PCP makes you feel bad about it who cares You have to advocate for yourself right nowThe reason I say that is because I dont want to give too much medical advice not knowing your medical background If you are a younger healthy person with no real issues you should not proceed to the ER until you are struggling to breathe or have a fever that will not come down with overthecounter medications However if you have another underlying health condition you want to talk to your doctor about what is best for you They may have a plan that has you bypass the ER and be directly admitted to the medical floorIf no PCP I would follow the advice above|0 Dude Spanish Flu CFR of about 2 and deaths between 50 and 100 million are established fact She didnt pull those numbers out of thin air Google spanish flu CFR|0 So dont clean them Put up a sign free virus infection station|1 Was this a few days ago As of sometime yesterday March 7th afternoon in WA state doctors can order tests without CDC approval httpswwwdohwagovPortals1Documents1600coronavirusInterim2019NovelCoronavirusQuicksheetProviderspdf Im not sure if the CDC changed the requirements yesterday or WA state just decided they will test without them|0 This is frustrating to me because my gf can only have gluten free pasta and everyone just mass buys it because its all thats left This shit is so annoying for people with dietary restrictions|0 I love how just days this NHL season was canceled Canada is already getting their shit together|1 People at large need either a good war or a good plague to learn to care beyond their own nose again|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 And what will they say when people start saying No I have a family Are these people in charge going to go out and help treat people No Remember these names they are responsible|1 It might have been an animal 0 And that animal or group of animals infected several humans|0 I generally agree with you but we differ in that I think people can still be reached Ive seen it in my own family Not everyone but enough that Im not ready to give up and I dont think making jabs at people is productiveThat doesnt mean that I think Mitch McConnell and his ilk will ever change Dont even get me started|0 You are part of the problem if you hoarded food sanitary supplies and everything else|0 Except it literally is a hoax A country of almost 14 billion people and 83k have it Do the math its no where even close to 1 of their population much the worlds populationThere us a YouTube video about how bad american media lies and sensationalizes the Ebola virus and the corna virus is another perfect example of it|0 No just look at Florida or Houston|0 This is due to the sudden Europe travel ban While technically American residents could return later it will become much harder to find flights|0 Can you say more about this Would it happen if there was a huge hurricane or giant west coast earthquake|1 Trump can just use a sharpie to cross out digits on the number of infected and say the problem has gone awayHell he already kept people trapped one a boat purely because he whined it would look bad for the numbers if they got help He already said it was going to go away in a few days like a miracle cant believe nobody is talking about that he utterly needs to go like yesterday|0 Hmm imagineYou saw cracks in the past but you kept at it because you can try to work it out and theres always a buffer work then the whole nation gets locked down and your friends and family die and you have to spend it all with your partner who you might have issues with already When its all said and done you realize its a waste of time being unhappy when the time is limited and short So divorce it is Coming soon to a country near you|0 Germans are well organized and generally obsessive about cleanliness lots of people already selfquarantined just because they have common cold symptoms|1 The fact this is happening during an election yes is catastrophic This Nation and both the left and the right will use this virus to make political gains|1 You can look at Bernie Sanders reddit posts on Super Tuesday to realize we are not the majority Go in to your states subreddit and see if people are discussing it there A majority of the Corona virus posts in my state are downplaying to flucold|1 Nope not mine Best friend So nervous about it now|0 Its tough kid but its life|0 Bible sez you can serve God or you can serve MoneyAmerica made its choice years ago in the Greed is Good eraSometime in the 1980s it became fashionable to underpay workers overpay CEOs hire illegals and pay the least possible for all goods services Wal Mart The result was inevitable Massive income inequalityThe pandemic is just going to put the icing on the cake Itll be WORSE than 1929|0 yes quarantined to death|0 Maybe they got their lie messed up|0 Exactly This is an enormous threat to the most vulnerable group in our society the elderly The risk to them is too high to go around saying its just like the flu and killing a bunch of grandparents We need to shut down to protect themMy only grandparent is 90 and thinks its a hoax and its so upsetting My dad is 73 and also thinks its a hoax Hes traveling in Europe Misinformation is going to kill people Its unforgivable and avoidableEdit 2 words also happy cake day|0 Im in the same boat Two weeks ago I started to feel a little crappy at work as the day went on enough that I decided to skip the gym after and just went home to rest Then that night I woke up at 1am feeling like I had a lead plate on my chest and could barely breathe and was coughing up a ton of mucus I called in sick to work and took almost a week to feel well enough to resume normal life And Im one of those guys who just doesnt get sick and if I do I just push through it But I felt like crap I just kept telling myself there was no way it was corona but maybe|0 I developed a cough a mild fever and tightness in my chest Ive been masking it up but honestly have no clue if its corona or not I feel perfectly fine but when asking about the test I didnt fit the criteria According the Florida I need the following 3 criteriaThere are three conditions to meet for testing1If someone traveled to a country thats a Level 2 or 3 risk according to the CDC and that person has a fever or lower respiratory issue2If someone has had close contact with someone who is infected and that person is experience fever a cough or shortness of breath3If someone has a lower respiratory illness and has tested negative for the flu at a hospital|0 This sub is brilliant Its an rCasualUK approach to Coronavirus|1 Yeah you need to relax man|1 I just now decided to work from home and I already got weird judgements from my parents|0 He technically isnt wrong though|1 If theres some travel ban or some quarantine or airport gets shut down you may have trouble getting home theres always a risk of delays|0 And you only have 18 cases Whos the sick man of Europe now|0 That sounds right I knew it was actually verbalized as a quote couldnt remember the source The thinking is very much widespread as anyone who watches most politicians parse words during a crisis knows|0 A few weeks ago there was a huge spike in confirmed cases because China decided to move all their suspected cases that hadnt been tested yet to the confirmed category Once they caught up on testing they went back to only putting tested cases in the confirmed category their suspected cases number has reduced to the same very low place as the daily confirmed Who knows how accurate any of these numbers are though|0 Thank you that was perfect|1 In his own way he is but he shouldnt have pushed it as Obamacare liberals should have stuck with Affordable Care Act|1 I live in Las Vegas Nevada and the first positive case walked into the ER in the hospital where I work I heard about it on the news and the internet before we were officially told by anyone where I work They tell us the chance of contracting it is very low|1 I dont understand how people dont understand that no country has 4000 quarantine bedsEven the US military ended up refusing to take their own citizen to a close by military base as the risk to the troops is not worth itThey are on a luxury ship The whole purpose of quarantine is to wait out and see if there are stuck people that their symptoms appear Theyre not getting infected infection doesnt make sick overnight|0 What about the people who work in the restaurants and movie theatres They will lose their jobs|0 I have no talents I am no genius I am not strong or athletic but Im O so I have that going for me right Well aside the daily calls I get from blood banks hassling me to donate|1 Come Monday hope they announce the bailout for the average joe They said today more will be coming I work for the LCBO part time They tried to get me to work this weekend with how busy it is Fuck that I live with my 62 year old mother who has stage 4 cancer Im not going anywhere near retail stores unless its for food for us to eat|0 He definitely has a point that alot of disturbing weird or outright annoying societal shifts are expectedhappening because of liberals pansy life attitudes Economically Im on the left but when it comes to their evaluation of what society should be like its more like a growing tumor and that exactly is pushing alot of centrist voters to the right|1 Live free or die this will be the fate of America|0 To be fair I think its just the lure of social media Social media makes douchery possible for everyone If something like this happened in the US you bet Twitter would be lit up with people proudly proclaiming how they escaped a citys quarantine while posing for the camera|1 Truck stops shipping receiving offices loads of paperwork Its not constant exposure but its not like I never leave my truck|0 Thanks|1 Of course not Enjoy it|0 From the paper Absolute humidity and temperature yielded a positive relationship and a slight negative relationship respectivelyBut this sentence makes no sense to me since the fit coefficients from Table 1 are 0761 for absolute humidity and 1050 for temperature mean which would imply that the negative relationship with temperature is even stronger than the positive one with humidity Am I missing something|1 Why are you even in this subreddit if youre just going to panic and not listen to logic|0 Certain drugs can be abused or made into things Things that come to mind that could be rationed arePsuedephinephrine Sudafed decongestants could be abused as a precursor to meth productionDextromethorphan Nyquil Robitussin some cough suppressants can be abused by taking large quantities to robotripBenedryl Not really abused except by whackosThere also might be some thought into the idea that they dont want to sell you 6months supply at a time because maybe there is some risk that you overdose on it and they dont want to be liable Idk|0 Haha its like a bride group thats local to where we live are getting married People come in when they get engaged and start planning the wedding and then I know people leave after the wedding but Im sure some stay on as well I am definitely to leave after the weddingLike I said its super high drama in there as you can imagine BUT at the same time there is a lot of information such as how some people schedule their timeline and structure their wedding day or how much alcohol do I need if I am preparing alcohol for my guests and also reviews of vendors and their prices which are not usually transparent on their website Its only brides because many girls post pictures of their dress and ask for advice with dressaccessories choice alterations so the grooms are not supposed to know that Also some girls come to the group with family issues like asking for advice on dealing with mother inlaws etc|1 Flu includes a lot of different strains of influenza and its primarily the Influenza A cluster which are most fatal but off the top of my head 02 CFR is a good rule of thumb and 01 CFR for A and B combined ballpark|1 Yes they would be classified as suspected cases and remain so until proven otherwise|1 I know that Contagion is just a movie but I tend to think that this scene explains our current predicament It may not be the exact same situation but the core concept is the same Scene from Contagion httpsyoutubehhzEhUorALU|0 Cannot believe Im going to compliment a politician but it sounds like your politicians are great Lucky you |1 So turns out most of my directorate seem to be working from home but our team who deal with trees have decided its not time for us just yet we all have call out vehicles we take home in case of emergencies so could easily plan around this but fuck that cos local council mindsets|0 Yup Thats why its important to take these sorts of measures well in advance of your system being overwhelmed Wuhan had what under 500 confirmed cases at the time their quarantine started I mean Im sure there were far more than that infected but thatll be true everywhere You have to do it when the number of cases youve detected is low because two more weeks of growth time is lot|1 Im a nurse Guess how many n95s we buy from home Depot Lowes Amazon etc Zero Most n95s people are buying are construction oriented not those intended for healthcareAll this no masks advice does is shame people into not using an obvious and readily available tool to protect themselves and reduce transmission Officials in Asian countries those that deal with this stuff far more regularly than we do specifically advise in favor of utilizing masks|1 What you describe in China happens when someone is told to wear a mask even given a mask and they refuse and attack the officers instead Or theyre told to have home selfquarantine and they leave their homeNo its not nice Its not gentle Also its very effective apparently Way more effective than us reading about someone in the US or UK left their mandatory selfquarantine and the response is few boos on social media Social media virtue signalling wont solve this crisis Only hard measures doYou gotta face it most people are compliant with reasonable requests Some are just assholes|0 I agree gaslighting is exactly the feel this whole thing has Permission to use the term thank you|1 Yeah apparently its ok to be a sexist so long as its not directed at womenI mean my aunt has a host of comorbidities but doesnt understand why she cant still go to the supermarket every day like she has her whole life Apparently because its not as big as the one down the road its safe because onto five thousand people go through it a day instead of twentyWomen amiright Too stupid to understand basic immunology and the ideas behind a virus Thats why they werent allowed to be doctors|1 More interesting is that he said it is much less lethal than we thought He is claiming 1|1 Which is why we cant let even basic issues of complicity be covered over after this We need to force the companies and the market to make a very real choice between the continuing very real danger of staying in china with the CCP or not doing so So everybody else could make a choice about them companies|0 Er no do it slowly over a period of months|0 Yeah this is egregious|1 peace and love from the US|1 Yeah NYC has 56x the population density as the Wuhan region 1200pmi2 vs 66940pmi2|1 Yes I am not going out unless its for medical appointments I have cancer My family whom I live with are only going out for essentials We are not allowing anyone to enter our home|0 Its dumb that we have to hold Like watching a Trump press conference and wondering why a country puts up with him|0 Uh TBF Im in Texas so Im not sure how it works everywhere but I work for tips by seeing people in person I dont even get paid by the company I work for half the time my checks will be 0 So Im really not sure how unemployment would work|0 Well Im collecting supplies every couple of days I dont want to look like a crazy person out in my community All of the people in my house are also in the age ranges that arent as heavily affected by the actual virus as far as we know right know So Im also holding onto that Were 3 6 35 and 36 All healthy and fairly fit No health conditions So Im holding on to that as well|1 Wait what Venetians and possibly other older citystatescultures did stuff like that Oh I just read and I see that it was in response to the bubonic plague Well good job back then|1 Its here Its going to be here forever Vaccine is at least a year away Its most deadly to the older and chronically ill Young people generally have mild to moderate symptoms The US is likely our largest virus source now Given this scenario I believe our goal must be to both reduce hospital usage and increase hospital capacityHospitals will do what they can to increase capacity but they cannot reduce usage Thats up to usWearing a mask is going to be normal Isolation for the infected Constant hand cleanliness for everyone Social distancing The cancellation of large scale events Work from home where at all possible Be sick at home not at work with government funding for employers and employeesThe targeted quarantine of nursing homes hospitals and long term care facilities should already be in place At least the restriction of visitors to family only and only if they are asymptomatic I hope we see this soon Like today Retired over 60s should be encouraged not to be anywhere near other folks Stay home or play golf but for fuck sake stay away from people Theatres etc any crowd producing optional activities should be banned The low simmer we can handle together The overwhelming boil of an out of control epidemic is to be avoided at all costs|0 No problem It was kind of funny to think back on it now and laugh at how idiotic they acted And the thing isthe roles have been reversed and it is strange Those same aunts uncles are just the flu bros who belittle any talk of prepping They all also have multiple comorbities putting them at higher risk for complications than meBack in 1999 I played the role of naysayer to their Tin foil conspiracy planning I tried logic and facts then and now but nothing moves them|0 The majority of Israeli Jews think that Israel is at least in part apartheid Survey Most Israeli Jews wouldnt give Palestinians vote if West Bank was annexed Under a lot of pressure Haaretz walked back the headline but the numbers were not impeachedmost of the Jewish public 58 percent already believes Israel practices apartheid against ArabsThis is backed by many other polls which show that half of Israeli Jews object to having Arab bosses and say that Jews should have more political rights Israeli Jewish Opinion Toward Israeli Arabs For example over 50 of Israeli Jews disagree with the statement The state of Israel today enables all the citizens of the state without distinction of age gender religion or nationality to feel that the state belongs to them equally Israeli Views on Society Peace Process GovernmentThe United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia has stated with many details why it thinks Israel is apartheidhttpswwwmiddleeastmonitorcomwpcontentuploadsdownloads201703UNESCWAisraelipracticespalestinianpeopleapartheidoccupationenglishpdf|1 Clearly they have cracked teleportation|1 This Like i can understand being into a show here and there but nowadays its entire catalogs of shows on Netflix and now Disney people are addicted to which is just friggin crazy I actually felt up to speed because I happened to watch The Mandalorian till my free trial expired but then people blew past my conversation talking about all these other shows none of which Ive heard of nor do I have time to binge watch Its consumerism at its worst Americans are being programmed into non producing zombies sitting infront of their televisions endlessly as they order food delivery|0 We allowed giant corporations to buy up all the media The US government has allowed an oligarchy to own the media and we the people have sat idly by distracted by partisan politics When in reality it is all owned by an oligarchy of the ultrarich who uses Democrat and Republican labels to divide usToo many people disengage from following the news and are more concerned by what the Kardashians are doing and trying to impress people with selfies Most social media is something other than a means to spy on us and shove commercials down our throatsMaybe this will be a wake up call to people|1 How are we to know if you have been around someone who has the virus If we dont test we wont have a problem Thats insane|0 Thats actually a really good idea Sears is going to be more useful than its been in decadesThough I think the lack of washrooms might be an issue|1 She is a small dog only eats 2 cups a day Bag lasts about 2 months so I think we are good|1 except no twitching dying patient and no dead body in bag lying with other patients|0 Good then Im strictly seeing outliers|1 This is what Democrats WANT the gov to do instead of what trump did at first which was just say its just the flu bro We need responsible action but not panic No sane dem is going to complain about his response|1 ok I can agree to that|1 Im very sorry to hear that My hope out of this whole situation is companies will start diversifying their supply chain from more than one country|1 A jury might be sympathetic if someone shot this guy in the head|1 Oh really Thats interesting Zinc is generally good for immune systems but if there is something specific with the Wuhan virus then it may not be a good idea as you say I was just talking about immune system boosting in general|1 Im a US citizen and lived in singapore for a couple of years for an assignment After living there i cant stop comparing Singapore with USThe healthcare over there in Singapore is very good I remember i came to a doctors clinic numerous times as i was very sick and i never shelved out any money on any of those visits No appointments just visit and they will accommodate you They will also provide you with your medicine The insurance was included on the employment package on most companies Here in US If you need a physician there is a waiting time The worse i had is waiting for 3 months The only option is to go to urgent care In my case i shelved out 65 for the urgent care with insurance that is the copay It doesnt include the medicine I need to go to walgreens to pick up my medicine and you will have a another co pay for that With that you always want to avoid seeing the doctor due to the cost Second tax Whenever tax season comes in Singapore we just need to log in to a web portal the government already computed the tax for you Spend 5 minutes to pay for the tax then you are done Here in US the tax is so complicated US is very backwards when it comes to tax instead of making the tax easy to people things are just difficult Sometimes you need to pay for the services of turbotax hr block etc to ensure your taxes are filed correctly Third public transportation I never needed a car in Singapore The public transportation is one of the best i had ever seen and it almost covers the whole SingaporeSingapore has taken good care of me during my stay there and i wish i could visit Singapore again in the future and visit my Singaporean and malaysian friends and shop at bugis junction I definitely miss eating laksa|1 Yeah well maybe if they had already shut down the exotic animal trade none of this would have happened|1 In North Carolina they have expanded it to be fever plus cough and failing all the influenza and rhinovirus tests As if you couldnt have more than one thing at once But its better than so many other states Best wishes everyone|1 I feel sorry about the situation there please take care yourself and your family|1 I dont like to just America bash usually I feel were lucky to live next to a democracy even during Trump But this makes my blood boil Weve mostly contained the outbreak to this point and sucessfully traced practically everyone who got it Then America sets its own fucking house on fire|0 This is a TERRIBLY MISLEADING post and Ill tell yall why Firstly this study from 2008 looks at face mask use for 15 minutes and 3 hours It had 28 HEALTHY adults and 11 children very much NOT representative of the general population 22 adults in the second experiment The activities the people do here are NOT representative of what people do only sitting nodding reading aloud and walking Real people constantly touch their faces use the bathrooms touch common items like doorknobs and eat and drink The N is way too small too and caution should be used about drawing any conclusions It studied influenza virus by using particle sizes similar to the virus and measured the amount of particles that got through the mask very important distinction from actually getting people sick The size of these particles was 002 m to 1 m The size of coronavirus 01 m httpssmartairfilterscomenblogcoronaviruspollutionmasksn95surgicalmaskThis company take it with a grain of salt was able to get different varieties of masks fitted and not one showed 100 blocking of 00101 micron particles although some masks for pretty close Also its friggin PlosOnecome on Pubmed is just an indexing service you can get any shit published if you go to a low enough journal Anyway You shouldnt be posting a study like this and spreading misinformation aka the title of the reddit thread does NOT reflect the authors true conclusions or limitationsEdit titled correctly would be A small nonrandomized study shows that teacloths reduced penetration of 0021 m noninfectious particlesAssociations are not conclusions and they did not study coronavirus in this study or do a clinical study on effectiveness against infectivityhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed31479137 2019 JAMA study of 2862 randomized participants actually did laboratory confirmation of the flu concluded both N95 vs masks had no difference incidence of laboratory confirmed influenzahttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed26952529 2016 CMA metaanalysis and literature review of N95 respirators vs masks in healthcare professionals for the prevention of flu Shows insufficient data to recommend N95s vs masks for workers in a clinical setting Said N95 had some advantages in a lab ie controlled setting which again is not applicable to the common personhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15454893 Paper talking about how many more factors actually go into whether or not the mask will work Its not as simple as just wearing one Just food for thought|0 Gotcha Thanks for the clarification|1 Everything may slow down The gov needs to protect the food supply chain by giving incentives and providing protective measures|1 Most of China is cashless society Payment apps are used for QR code which is contactless So almost no cash is exchanged That said it is my understanding that the central bank has been taking cash out of circulation and disinfecting it before putting it back in circulation on an ongoing basis I can say personally that I have had to handle cash and while Im not too worried I use hand sanitizer or wash my hands immediately after handling it|1 Yeh this article is a copy and paste of a Daily Star article which is a shitty UK tabloid which is sourcing its information from the Epoch Times which is a ChineseAmerican newspaper associated with the Falun Gong|0 Thank you|1 With the number of people from China who visit Yellowknife NWT I half expect to hear a case there any time soon|1 Ya those were dark days like two weeks ago|1 yeah its all fake and I hope you get the real numbers you like wherever you are from while I happily enjoy my morning Frappuccino in the just reopened Starbucks in Beijing which you probably will not be able to do very soon|1 Amongst many other things 25 kilos of rice a ton of pasta and sauce canned beans of all kinds all the spam the super market had Thats not all of it but yeah I want to be able to have fresh bread|1 What They have had multiple Presidents impeached and their democratic parties do not let the government get away with anything How are they not democratic in practice|1 Yea its frightening These are unprecedented times Right now anything that reduces your inoculation size is better than nothing Hoping the immune system will handle the rest|0 Its okay you have Trudeau in blackface|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well They have everyone elses money in the world|1 I dont blame home|1 Oh so instead of sacrificing a small number of lives to save many lets just let the number of fatalities skyrocket because muh freedom Nice|1 He should post in Chinaflu this sub requires solid sources|1 Yes and we see that in Wuhan Wuhan deathrate is higher than other areas|1 Surely WHO needs to declare this as a global emergency the numbers of infected and dead are obviously in the thousands and china are sitting themselves|0 Kerala successfully contained a Nipah virus outbreak last year and hmlndia has eradicated polio so you have no basis for saying that|1 if you had two cents for a brain youd understand that it is infinitely better to let the stock market crash now and recover by October than let it crash during summer and watch it recover as a former president But orange man bad crowd use hive brain and hive has been raided by socialists|0 Well I just assume that the UK should have the same or similar numbergrowth of cases as Germany or France So when I look at the numbers herehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountries I see a much lower number of cases Id expect 5000 yet there is an above average number of deaths compared to the number of cases This raises my suspicion that there are more than average undetected cases running around may that be due to insufficient testing or something else Or they just got very unlucky with their deaths like an infected old peoples home or something Or for some reason their borders are almost air tight and they really lag behind in cases in which case hats off but masks stay on please There are undetected cases in all countries of course I also think that the NHS estimate of 50k is pretty close Amongst the larger countries the UKs reported numbers just dont fit right into the statisticsSame goes for China by the way Something is fishy Italy has about 37 the number of cases yet 78 of the number of deaths So either Italy is extremly unlucky Chinas preventative measures were super effective or the numbers are skewed Currently Im trending towards number 3|1 its a nothingburgernot as bad as the flu or sars or ebola|0 Exactly Just because I dont own a home doesnt mean I dont have shit to pay for|1 You know the death of that doctor is being investigated as a potential homicide by the CCP|0 I wonder how easy it will be for these people to get a taxi when they land Then I wonder who will be in the taxi after them Then I wonder who will be in there after that Continue this thought|1 You people are ridiculous This is a charge that would put someone in prison for years Thats too much I think a hefty fine at most will be enough for most people Yes you can go up in punishment for repeat offenders but a homicide or manslaughter charge is way too hefty I know this will get a bunch of downvotes knowing this subreddit but it really is too much|0 Oh yes Its all about that me mentality x200Bx200Bx200B|1 This is not true|0 I thinkhope that society is too big to fail and something will be done to help the American people|0 So a shot and a good snort of both bleach and alcohol it is s|1 Once you see the federal government barge into journalists homes to arrest them then you can start saying its as bad Until then please dont even try to compare the CCP to the US government|0 Nope Im firstFucking kooks lol|1 Why test poor people when they can allocate those resources toward the wealthy people Poor people die wealthy treated and cared by the best medical professionals Yep|1 Thats a bad idea if you have the regular flu go in for a corona test and get infected at the hospital|0 Like what|1 I texted a friend in Seattle the sunday before last telling him i hoped him and his family were ok He didnt have a clue what I was talking about so I sent him some of his local newsPretty sure after the oh shit he said he was glad I warned him I am too hes right there|1 No I am sick this week with cold in Washington right where weve had a bunch of cases this weekend I called to try and get a test and basically they told me that unless I had direct contact with someone already confirmed or was seriously ill they would not testRidiculous because theyve reported its already been spreading undetected in my county so I should not have to have been in contact with a confirmed case to get a test|0 no I am gonna fuck up those touch screens Cant stop me if you cant chase me|0 Except that a lot of Chinese escaped the region for the holiday before the lock down|1 Plus we could have more time to make more masks build more machines work on a vaccine and maybe the weather will help It seems so dumb to treat this lightly|1 Thank you for providing a source w factual information|1 Pretty sure our healthcare has been rated World Nr 1 in rankings thatd include us anyways for years nowHonestly having lived in Singapore and the UK for almost a decade each every time I need to go to the hospital I was sorely reminded how good we had it back home You literally can make an appointment in the morning and get seen by a specialist in the afternoon anywhere in the country Meanwhile in the UK youd have to make appointments up to 19 days before hand and youll only be seen by your registered GP not a specialist who may or may not just give you some ibuprofen for whatever pain youre having and tell you to go home and wait it out|1 Fortunately Im not constantly worried about this virus but Ive been in that place before with other viruses and other things like weather and tornado warningsJust stay informed make sure youre prepared and practice all of the preventative measure you can but dont overdo it and take some time off each day from anything coronavirusrelatedIf you have a fear that if you arent constantly checking the news then youre going to miss something and be in danger the best thing you can do is try to just distract yourself and suppress the urge to check when you feel like that until the anxiety subsides I know it sounds counterintuitive since you have to force yourself through the anxiety but its what I was taught to manage my OCD|1 Thanks mate|1 I checked all the reliables sources and I couldnt find anyone talking about thatBe careful about the source dont forget that there are sites saying the Earth is flat or saying coronavirus is a bio weapon made to kill humanity doesnt mean they are telling the truthWhenever you see dubious information like that on a website its good to check where did they get that information or if they just took numbers out of nowhere If something is written in a site but cant be confirmed nowhere then that information is just a rumor and this subrredit isnt working with rumors|0 The group says that their findings cant yet be fully evaluated with the small number of patients and plans to partner with other healthcare facilities going forward to investigate the results furtherThank you so much for this and translating I already shared this within my local community eventhough they are non scientist same as I|1 There is no other strain if by strain you mean different serotypes|0 Certainly more comfortable criminals do not care about gun laws they will get guns illegaly and will rob your house If you have nothing to protect yourself with you are screwed Police services will be overwhelmed with cases to help you in time|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Oh yeah His policies fucking suck Lmao But as an older guy Ive seen a lot of republicans I didnt care for thats nothing new What I cant stand is that people today are just anti facts The fact that he can at least agree on basic ideas of reality is something Im so thirsty for And honestly there are a lot of democrats fucking this shit up right now so Im not being partisan about it NYC and Chicago are trying to do way too much with their public schools and missing the big picture Its crazy the governor had to step in and stop Lori for keeping schools open Its also crazy that theres a debate about keeping schools open in NYC I hope Blasio follows Chicagos lead and offers sack lunches for students in need but keeps classrooms closedIts a shame some of the better ideas are not being standardized by the fed Theres no reason for the fed to say this is what we expect right now to help people as best we can while mitigating the danger of exposure But again we cant agree on basic facts right now|1 Straight with a spoon But dont let grandma catching you eating like that youll get in trouble and be stuck weeding the vegetable garden for a month I honestly dont make apple jam and I dont know any of the family recipes I just acquire the jars as well grandma doesnt need all the jars she makes and grandchildren always get more than a few if they like it|1 thanks friend |1 This patient was not diagnosed until after he died Holy shit|0 No All my friends live there and besides some items being sold out its business as usual A few companies have advised to works from home but Microsoft hasnt Schools are open day care too Daily life is not impacted at all they say|1 What a disgusting lady to laugh at you I think you should report her to the nursing board or to the director of the urgent care|1 Yep these might be the first actual reliable numbers to understand how the virus works|1 March Madness is gonna be the key Ncaa basketball games|0 Yeah I cancelled my Bachelor party today Was set to fly out to Vegas next weekend Really bummed but this is the best decision with everything going on Not only for everyones health but no sense in half assing Vegas for my Bachelor party Well reschedule for a later date once we see how everything unfolds Glad to see people are starting to see this is a big deal blows my mind the responses Ive gotten from family and coworkers here in Washington state downplaying everything|1 Cries in programmeringssprkIm a senior software engineer with an MSc and 15 years work experience and I cant afford to buy a house Wages are low taxes are high houses are ridiculously expensive because of artificially low interest rates which benefit those who already own homes plus you need a chunk of savings to take a loan all of which benefit wealthy families that already own real estate whereas I come from a poor family I come from a family of teachers another underpaid professionThis faade of a rich country is built on an outdated model that benefits the industry magnates at the top and the manual workforce at the bottom but it doesnt value the production of knowledge that is important in the current economy Sweden prides itself on a bygone era of engineers like Nils Ericson Alfred Nobel etc which the boomers capitalized on now the boomers have fat houses after a life at Volvo while the young software developers are moving to Singapore|1 Honestly memes aside Im very glad theyre taking this seriouslyAn island nation would not fair well with this disease so thank god their leaders are being proactive|1 Im currently delivering pizzas while finishing my PhD because my grad funding ran out Ive made maybe 14 13 of my usual tips over the past 2 shifts As concerning as that is Im supposed to defend and graduate this semester I doubt anyone will be hiring anytime soon|0 Ah thanks for the clarification So the guy was diagnosed and died both today|0 Nations can absolutely be compared The nations that got the infection failed and are in mitigation mode The nations so far uninfected did everything right You can absolutely compare how China handled the infection verses how s Korea are now handling it despite the huge differences in size and population|0 I got a notice and they did a company wide call Ill have to hear the replay of but if I get sick its my PTO and my SFLP I will have to use|0 The US is under reporting as well Theres definitely at least one case in my state from what Ive heard but it still hasnt been reported|1 Ignorance is bliss|1 Thank you for sharing this|1 us still does in the middle east u fucking tool Soviet union doesnt even exist anymore lol look at what the US does in syria yemen palestine etc|1 The White House has the best responds its huge the best heres ever been At no time in history has there ever been a time with better people doing better|1 Amazing|1 Thats crazy|0 Ive got friends in Canada Off to shoulder tap|1 My good friends husband is an ER doctor They simply havent been provided with enough tests and have been told that they cant get approval to test people unless they meet certain criteria recent travel to hotspot recent contact with confirmed case The hospital is taking it seriously but their hands are tied Hes very frustrated with the situation especially because its clearly spreading locally in our area California I would say in your dads case to treat it like hes already been confirmed to be safe Monitor his situation closely and if he even starts to show signs of respiratory distress go in for treatment From what I understand the virus is just a virus and theres not a lot they can do about that but there are certainly things they can do for pneumonia Try to keep him healthy with lots of rest and fluids at the moment and dont wait if his situation turns|1 Haha thank you|1 The government was urged to close down the wet markets after SARS They did so temporarily and then allowed them to reopen That is 100 on the CCP how can you argue that it is not is beyond me|0 Makes sense Im talking about from a strategic standpoint though Back in the cold war with ballistic weaponry and limited reconnaissance it was easier to defendmonitor a single position and more difficult to find a single target than a roadNow all the worlds military powers constantly watch each other in real time with high res images and video A single location would be found and targeting is so good now too ICCMs are coming online in a big way as well making it even harder to defend Seems like now you would want to spread critical infrastructureindustry out as much as possible Easier to rebuild a road than the excavation and refinement facilities|1 Australians playing 4D chess out here|1 What a selfish piece of shit|0 Yes it is worse and partly that is because no one is paying attention The reason it was well contained before was because people were paying attention I honestly didnt see anything I would considered panic on either one People seem to equate the presence of news articles discussing it or people taking precautions as panic|0 US has 25 army combat support hospitals that deploy from Air and truck freight containers Each can treat 250 people Thats a little over 6000 emergency beds that can be deployed anywhere Same timeframe as Chinas week hospitals but with staff that already trained together Granted a few of these are already deployed overseas|1 Reference to the movie SCREAM|0 I have had the flu for about a month My husbands entire practice got sick and they still are showing symptoms that just wont go away Every single person in my house got sick my children showed really mild symptoms but my husband and I had symptoms that have been lingering We live in LA They have told us there is no risk I call bullshit like a thousand times This virus has been circulating in China since November LA is an international city do you know how many people go back and forth frequently Its impossible that it isnt here|0 Iran probably has a lot fewer medical resources than China As does the United States|1 Honestly its best for everyone if those with a cough in areas with reported cases of COVID19 play it safe by assuming they may be infected and stay home Theres no sense in risking community spread by simply hoping its just a cough and going about their day|1 Yes this is even more clear if I post my other chart plotting UK case rate against a number of other countries Ill do that shortly|1 Something people need to understand that this was happening JUST around Chinese New Year and that is when hundreds of millions of Chinese travel around the country From and to Wuhan and then they travel back to their workplaces 15 days later it could have been even worse I have been in Shanghai for the past 2 months and it was surreal|0 Agreed This sub became rpolitics trash really fast No factual information about the situation and just a bunch of antiUSA and antiTrump opinion pieces|0 In Canada its not quite the same arrangement as far as how the money flows but were still stacked to capacity before any of this came around Same issue everywhere budgets are managed margins of error are limited and this is way above the margins planned for|0 Stuff like ECMO and ARDS is why we have watch out for each other when we see someone whos sick We need to get these people medical care asap so they can be around in the future|1 But again 40000 in a region of what 11 mil That 005 of the population Or am o wrong and this is all of Hubei So 50mil so much smallerAll Im saying is that take the whole picture into account What size of city do you live in|0 Opposite problem for me in Ohio No one will leave their house to come get the food It was wide open the last two days No one besides the three of us coordinating showed up|0 Unless the mother gave permission this is very disturbing|0 Or use it on their test rigs as a bench mark stress test|0 The local Woolies here is closing for a whole day to give them time to restock the shelves are empty|0 A devastating riposte|0 Right now its too early to judge the US response as there isnt much to respond to The Chinese handling was bad Look how out of control it got there They suppressed information and did not respond adequately for a prolonged period Then they resorted to police state tactics There are critics who went missing or went dead A lot of people died without adequate medical attention|0 Lazy moron bureaucrats cant do their job|0 Women smh|0 ah making profit by postponing the treatment of potentially millions of people around the world effectively letting tens of thousands of people die assuming the mortality rate is a lenient 1 and those affected by it caps out in the millions great president perfect role model|1 997 may be a fever for you but it is not a concerning fever that requires hospitalization This family obviously has it so they need to stay quarantined like they are already doing|1 Same here Seven people in my county got confirmed since Monday alone and my citys mayor is in quarantine Hang in there You are not alone|0 Super awesome You could add some simple definitions on those parts the one that the general public would understand Then it will be copied by all over the news agencies But its good right|1 1 The patient may not follow the instructions to stay at home entirely2 The family members are not trained for antiinfection thus can be easily infected by a highly contagious patient3 Its not easy for patients to evaluate their condition so sometimes its already too late when finally getting hospitalized|0 When people start romanticizing ancient masterslave economies its time to exit the thread|1 United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime The Small Arms Survey The Small Arms Survey is an independent research project located at the Graduate Institute of International and Development StudieshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGraduateInstituteofInternationalandDevelopmentStudies in GenevahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGeneva SwitzerlandhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSwitzerland It provides information on all aspects of small armshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSmallarms and armed violence as a resource for governments policymakers researchers and activists as well as research on small arms issues|0 I want to start a drive through testing center People Personal Protection Equipment Paper with questions to ask swab kits|1 Yeah but compare it to Canada or the States smoking laws are super relaxed too|1 Try it today lol I cant find rubbing alcohol anymore|1 Care stocks more than anything|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im lucky to only work a few days a week right now but as my husband is likely to lose his paycheck soon Ill be working much more as things ramp up I am not afraid of my own health being in a lower risk category but for the patients I might unknowingly infect and for my family The asymptotic possibility is scary to me|0 If the death rate does become about 20 it will be more than 300 million|0 Lol wtf|0 Bill has saved a lot of lives I like you a lot Bill|1 Bad lungs is also highly correlated with smokeing so infections that attack the lungs can be a bigger issue|0 The entire country is locked down because the government cares about money right|1 Not all Canadians are refused Probably from Brittish Columbia where there are a few cases|0 I trust China because they declared war on an enemy of the state the virus and they needed people to take it seriously|0 That and well the other symptoms if they persist Can you imagine persistent stomach pain fatigue severe diarrhea and vomiting for three weeks I know that most symptoms dont stay for the entire duration but just the possibility of that is no joke Staying hydrated especially when fatigued but prolonged diarrhea Thats basically cholera|0 Incompetent local mayors provincial primer BC health minister and Canadas health minister They are waiting for it to blast hospitals and create a mini Wuhan before they take action Cucks|0 Yes I know Some people have weakened immune systems due to medications Some people have weakened immune systems for other reasons such as HIV|1 Nice Thanks Ive joined too|1 No you cant It is only permitted to visit dependant people you may be taking care of elderly handiccaped kids Otherwise it isnt allowed its considered gathering and thats prohibited as of now|1 Close it to civilian traffic Truckers essential workers doctors nurses diplomats excepted Theres no reason people should be hopping over the border for any reason but I grew up in a border city and I know plenty of troglodytes out there who would risk their health for cheap gas|0 Haha I wish you were wrong|1 It is I just hope its trueEdit happy cake day|1 So its only uncontrolled that makes it a risk factor|0 And to add to my statement earlierWhat better time than now for the Tories to sell off the NHS Theyll wait until its over run and then use its overworked state to drum up support so some private companies can come in to save the day Watch This will happen|1 i could see it if usa needs to mandate all cruises stop|0 I agree there will always be selfish people that does whatever they want without caring of others and causing a lot of problems and then they blame others for their own mistakes|0 Its shit like this is why people arent trusting the experts and panic buying|0 Chinese propaganda Everything to make us forget where and how COVID started and became such a big problem Fuck the chinese government and its transparent ploys to ingratiate itself with the rest of the world|0 Soap bars and liquid hand wash was out of stock in my local shop last night UK I have plenty at my place but not my boyfriends So I ended up buying two bottles of cheap shampoo I figured if it lathers then its better than nothing unless someone wants to correct me and it absolutely has to be hand soap|1 This is basically happening in Germany at least my city All the symptoms but no fever Out of luck Fever but no person who had it Well it still could be smth else right RIGHT So no testFuck this system for richfamous people Every shitty soccerplayer gets tested right away and has to stay put in his milliondollarmansion but for the regular worker there are no testsHow do I know I am sick for more than 2 weeks now Have all the symptoms but no fevercontactperson even diarrhea and the worst Breathing problems I have cramps and shivering because of the feeling of no oxygen But hey it could be smth else right It is not like the big city you are living in is full of people who did spread this before the recent precautions It is not like you stood inbetween thousands of people the last two weeks in the metro at close distance and could get infected by anyoneCurrently the doctors dont even test because of the consequences ME getting tested positive means THEM closing their office Why Because we dont have enough and fast tests So when they confirm that I was in their waiting room with Corona then they can close down the office for several days and even more people are fuckedBut where do I go when I can barely manage the day because of the breathing problems The Hospitalemergency room tells you no if you arent coughing bloodSO WHAT DO I DO Oh yeah I sit in the patients waiting room at my regular doctor Possibly infecting others and getting the hmm not severe enough symptoms for a Corona test answer while reading flu symptoms on my doctors noticeI had the flu over the past years I never had it this long this severe and no breathing problems never I am not a smoker or live in circumstances which would justify the idea of suddenly getting asthma or anything similarBut hey no Corona test for me I guessedit And by for me I mean basically everyone in this city If you are not at the brink of death you dont get tested Oh except if you are famous or rich then you get tested right away even with minor symptoms np|0 Buddy lose the fuck in all you comments|0 Dont forget about retail workers too|1 Yup This guy maths I love it when I tell friends and they dont believe me I guess its just unbelievable|1 They may have but they did a great job tackling the problem Its a great example of how different government systems are beneficial and will maybe be something for history books When you think China you dont think of the best doctors in the world but the real test is if the rest of the world can compete with this nation I kind of doubt the USA where Im from can even come close to compete|1 No Shut the fuck up and log off this stupid fucking sub Go watch some netflix and grab a beer from the fridge|0 Great I see a few older folks Prime targets for weeding out|1 Are you just now realizing this Lol|1 Doesnt make sense to me either The current administration only seems to care about the health of the stock market not logic|1 South Africa is estimated to have a 20 HIV infection rate This is going to hit Africa hard|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 There is no way in hell Australia is prepared for anything Their entire economy is based off selling fucking rocks to China|0 No we dont|0 Yeah and they would have done so very likely already knowing todays numbers|1 heres an English article explaining the colors and codes used in the Emergency Room httpswwwmedinactioncomitalianemergencyroom|0 And in general its best practice not to keep giving money to people who are going to blow it on bullshit instead of paying the light bill|0 I hear you The good thing is he did it right away and now so many people are going to benefit from all these items Again we are just in a desperate situation so any good deed we will accept It doesnt excuse his original intention but its a good gesture|1 Its okay just wash your hands We cant prevent people from travelling so why trythats what the politicians in Canada say anyhow|1 Ugh this is my fear That it takes a reeeeally long time to kill|0 I also live in Seattle Comiccon has now been postponed httpswwwseattletimescomentertainmenteventsemeraldcitycomicconbeingpostponeduntilsummer2020duetocoronavirusconcernshttpswwwseattletimescomentertainmenteventsemeraldcitycomicconbeingpostponeduntilsummer2020duetocoronavirusconcernsBut youre right We face a real threat of becoming the USAs Wuhan if InsleeConstantineDurkan dont get serious with shutting down schools and preventing public access to sports events Like Trevor Bedford said March 1 in Seattle was Jan 1 in WuhanIm not an epidemiologist but Paul Biddinger the chief of emergency preparedness at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston said 20 of Americans could get this thinghttpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealthhowbadwillthecoronavirusoutbreakgetintheus2020030355c5d0885c9d11ea90555fa12981bbbfstoryhtmlhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealthhowbadwillthecoronavirusoutbreakgetintheus2020030355c5d0885c9d11ea90555fa12981bbbfstoryhtmlIf 20 of people in King County alone get infected 20 of that number would need beds If we look at the population alone of roughly 2 million people thats 400000 people infected 80000 people who need hospital careWe have 5590 beds in King CountyhttpswwwwshaorgourmembersmemberlistinghttpswwwwshaorgourmembersmemberlistingDo we want that to happen all at once like in Northern Italy or Wuhan Or stretch that out to give our healthcare providers time to prepare like Hong Kong and Singaporehttpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes66rrfiguresr6601a1f1gifhttpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes66rrfiguresr6601a1f1gifx200BOh and anyone who thinks Chinas health system isnt better suited than ours for dealing with numbers just doesnt understand what were up against They built a facility in 10 days We bought a motel and we cant quite figure out how to manage that red tape with the city of Kent Not saying that Chinas health system is better all up just saying they know how to work at a scale that we are not ready for here in the USA especially King County|0 Thank you for reminding one of the wackiest stories Ive ever heard We are definitely in a weird timeline|1 Theres your mistake Youre supposed to suck when you meet the producers|0 I hadnt thought of this but there has been precedent if I recall correctly Edit Yes the Disaster Baby Boom unproven httpswwwgoogleieampsqzcom1313810factorfictiondisastersspurbabyboomsamp|0 About the vaccineThis virus is 88 similar to SARS which came more than a decade ago and we still dont have a curevaccine to The odds of discovering one in the next year might be too late by then anyway seem extremely small nonexistent to me I think the focus needs to be more about how to treat it if you get the virus|1 Lol yup sure am good luck friend maybe denying the truth will save you|1 Yep that will happen|1 Well I mean its fully legal Might as well partakeSeriously though yeah I know people were dumb and mean about the beard but it gave me serious depressed unemployed stayathomedad vibes and thats not exactly what Im looking for in a world leader|0 Hot water heater should be set to 140f to kill pathogens Its a little higher than normal but Im on well water and you do not want to see the water from the petri dish that is my hot water tank when its set lower Also all municipal water is laced with disinfectant Its extremely unlikely to get sick from it|0 The driver of the taxi that I occasionally ride to work told me that his friend who is a doctor said that masks are not going to help I asked him why thinking he would say what most people say about wearing masks now To my surprise what he said was that it wont help because it will make you more infected because if you cough it will just bounce back and you risk inhaling it back|0 But for what Why would you prefer cash over gold at this point in time Governments and whole economies could clearly collapse Gold was skyrocketing when Greece went into debt and people dreaded EU and Eurozone falling apart Now the whole world is much closer to falling apart and youre telling me nobody wants gold|0 Lots to teach beyond riding feeding guidelines conformation faults body parts parts of tack different kinds of tack different breeds and their particulars evolution etc in 4H we had hours each week that we had to study that didnt involve actual riding and I find a lot of the topics we covered actually made me a much better horse person|0 h someone with a sense of mind Not like the Netherlands for just a week we now have 128 cases Morons|0 This is what happened to me with h1n1 in 2009 At first I thought I just had a minor cold it wasnt bad at all It didnt take a turn for the worse until atleast over a week later I never would have even guessed I had the flu before that|0 I thought that yesterday the increase was less then a thousand in Hubai and today it seems to be a thousand|1 There is no evidence catching it gives you long term immunity Reaching 60 infected slow enough for the NHS to cope with the resources it had today could take approx 17 years The other option is that we infect at a normal rate and in 4 months we reach 60 infected with at least 13 million dead This policy is deadly|0 My mom said Oh well life goes on as she was driving to her book group Sigh|1 So in three months in the US we could logically expect to be in a similar place If the virus doesnt mutate and the US government imposes draconian methods of locking down cities and shuttering residents in their own homes|0 You not the only one Normalcy bias|0 Yes|1 Pin this pretty please with sugar on top|1 So everyone get on the new trend and start the hate cuz thatll solve the pandemic situation |0 Yeah pizza is really big in the US Not specifically Italian anymore|1 This was a bit of good news I really needed today|1 How about therapies like plasma and hydroxychloroquine Are they minimizing deaths through treatments we should be setting up here|1 the scariest fact of all is that this person might be average intelligence|1 He doesnt sound good|0 I thought Trump said a really solid flu vaccine could work though|0 Yep Its frustrating My husband and I sent our young adult children a group email a month ago Basically Hey because we do importsexports we want to give you al a headsup that if you need anything that comes from China most plastics and plastic packaging do so now Also maybe some face masks extra groceries etc because this virus looks to be an issue in the near futureSilenceCasually mentioned it in conversations for the next few weeksLast week we sent another emailHey just a little reminder Please make sure that you guys are stocked up on stuff Be smart get some masksCricketsToday I woke up to emails and textsMom I cant find masks OMG what do I do Mom what do I need again Mom do you have any extra supplies|1 Holy fuck why arent they doing this If you dont have the means to test you cant control so you lock down|0 Right If as I also assumed spike proteins are activated by being bound by basically anything you would conclude that this type of ADE applies to essentially all viruses no Because I dont see why coronavirus spike proteins would be so much simpler than those of most other viruses despite their bigger genome size While yes you are right that there are a lot of opportunities for evolution to gather a big advantage where it doesnt happen I think cellulose is actually a rather bad example The energy necessary to break down cellulose into simpler sugars is quite staggering you really need an efficient enzyme to make it worthwhile and an inefficient enzyme will be a big net drain at the beginning It seems to me that very specific conditions are necessary for cellulosedecomposing enzymes to be possible and they need to be not only efficient but have a very specific structure I dont know that I would call it a free lunchBy comparison if ADE was so easy that all you need is to have your spike enzyme primed more liberally it seems like a small incremental change that could arise in a lot of viruses And given the fact that selection events in which ADE can be useful are literally in the trillions or even quadrillions and the mutation seems much much easier to evolve than cellulase which did end up evolving I would expect such a mutation to have happened a long time ago and thus for our immune system to have evolved very robust countermeasures against such a thing which they seem to have as made obvious by the fact that even when they do manage to infect the cell there is no viral replication and that lymphocyte infection is rare to begin with This leads me to believe that the proposed mechanism is fundamentally lacking and is not a viable route for ADE just an inherent inefficiency in the handling of neutralized viruses by our immune system that would be very commonThat said it would be pretty interesting to see what it would do to an HIV infected macrophage Maybe use transgenic HIV without transcriptase to just get the mechanism for ADE working without leading to too much damage of the macrophage It would be informative enough about both HIV and our immune system that Im fairly confident someone could get funding for it|1 Do you think they will let the garbage collectors stay at home Or the police firemen nurses doctors shopping clerks waiters and waitressesId say 60 of the workforce cannot afford the luxury of staying at home Some people will have to work And once these people are all sick and noone can operate in eg water bottling facility load them up distribute and sell the civilization fallsIran will show us how it ends|0 Ooooohhhh what a surprise and I thought its gone in 14 days and only wants to spread in Europe Sorry for that as it actually isnt funny|0 Didnt Thailand refuse to ban any travel and Chinese were using that to circumvent the bans|0 The reporters are honestly doing a decent job grilling him but his responses just show how theyre trying to control panic|0 They arent oblivious Just totally fucking irresponsible|0 Yes and thats why at that point you need to close the highways and then give out a quarantine notice Will there be rioting Sure But without such extreme measures this is gonna get so so much more worse then it already is going to be Cause any measures taken NOW will only see an effect 34 weeks from now just like in China There is a tsunami of patients on its way not infected but patients people who need to be in the hospital to get more oxygen some 6 of the infected need respirators and intensive care Without that they would die And would make the deathrate skyrocket This is gonna get really scary And i am actually one of the people out there negating most of the things in the world cause they are not a real threat But I am pretty good at math and all the models predict this Just because we cant see it now doesnt mean its going to come And thats actually the scariest part Its 1918 all over again but this time its not a flu|1 well obviously|1 Thank you it is nice to hear someone elses level headed plan|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Food deserts exist both in urban and rural areashttpswwwruralhealthinfoorgtopicsfoodandhungerAnd rural communities are more likely to be food insecure than metropolitan areas|0 Which also means it spreads largely through surface contact For which a mask isnt going to help in most cases|0 They definitely said days because everyone reacted very surprised but the person that said it was essentially upper level management that was supposedly briefed by experts so its completely possible they misread it or there was some sort of miscommunication Of course they also said not to wear any sort of mask until after you start displaying symptoms of a fever so yeah|1 Thats a very good point about leading them on to believe it helps|1 Yeah lets just open up that censorship floodgate and make sure no one says anything bad about Rainbow Socks|0 this attempts to estimate the cfrhttpsgithubcomcalthausncovcfrhttpsgithubcomcalthausncovcfr updated continuosly currently 22 takes into account the fatality lag|0 Weird I thought our amazing private healthcare system was second to none Why are we trying to lure over big pharma from another continent|1 Yep I automatically assumed this was for Oregon|1 I surf so the flatten the curve concept is a really hilarious one to grasp analogy wiseIf you are straddling your board out behind the waves the board floats comfortably with you on top not always on top of the water depending on the size of the board but for the purpose of the explanation lets go with this as people can grasp it easily rather than be lost in semantics of buoyancyWhen in the water you see the little lulls of water moving underneath you that then form into waves they crash but because youre beyond the break they dont impact youOur medical system is our board we float on top knowing that were safe and any waves or issues have gone underneath us through the health care setup doing as it shouldNow theres a thing called an outside set sometimes a cleanout set this happens when the waves forms WAY beyond the normal breakers These waves for some reason form further back so you have to paddle or youre going to be caught in a difficult spot working to recover to get to your safer spot They dont happen often so you usually dont predict where you should be based on themWhen you see an outside set you paddle and you do it fast If you get hit by that set not only are you going to have a rough time youre then stuck dealing with those waves that you initially had to get pastIve seen and been a person who hasnt beaten the outside set and when the waves are big its a rough time its usually a good laugh to see who makes it and who doesntKnowing how hospitals are run how few beds are around and the pure numbers of this pandemic if we dont paddle were not only going to get hit we will be held underwater for some timeIf you really want to extrapolate itWhat makes this worse is that were further down the beach break than Italy but we saw them miss the timing and theyre board is now heading to the shoreInstead of paddling were busy watching the wave come towards us thinking maybe this is a different set of waves even though were on the same fing beach|1 I sincerely hope this is something that comes out of this Its all fine too far I dont begrudge anyone new things but theres no need for so much stuff and plastic junk|1 Thats what happens when you have a narcissist at the helm They intentionally create chaos so that others are dependent on them|0 thank you for sharing some of what you are having to go through over in Italy Wishing you and your family safety and health in the coming monthsyears|1 Pretty wild that you can just make something like that up get up votes and refuse to cite any source at all Sheesh man This is not the place to go for information hope people realize that|1 My husband isnt denying it his company is My company is all WFH everyone shelter down His company is a month behind So he goes to work each day mingles with is colleagues whove been traveling to countries with confirmed cases comes home and coughs all over me Hes not in denial but also not in a position to say no Im not coming in|0 Im saying in Enterprise adoption Microsoft is killing Google which is why Google is more likely to make it free to help with adoption|1 Oh I fucking wish Gotta be there for ego stroking team meetings and lunches with dickhead clients Only need to put a few years in before I go solo though|0 You should go Theres no confirmed cases in Philly I live here work in Bucks US is going to have a tough time with accurate reporting this admin muzzling scientists speaking out and their hold on the CDC that said it does seem that US is just getting it and is far and few between Wash your hands ect but dont let the fear completely paralyze you|1 If it was important to him he could cut through federal red tape with an executive order Obviously it is less important than pardoning General Flynn|1 We went through SARS This will be better than SARS|1 I made this for a friend and myselfVery rudimentary but important notes inside as well as how to care for someone sick or infected while living with themhttpswwwdropboxcoms2t089g9dkbhx9jc35268f69f4dd445087938115c97b2044rtfdl0|1 I agree it probably wont do anything but for me personally it is better than sitting on my hands and doing nothing|1 Along with ACE inhibitors certain diabetic medications like Jardiance and Invokana put you at greater risk of developing respiratory infections Most diabetics take ACE inhibitors Personally I was already dealing with a lovely prostate infection thanks to jardiance so stopped taking it a few weeks ago as per doctors advise Giving some thought to switching over to insulin next week|1 Yes it is It can be true and racism Racism is often seen as automatically evil but that is not actually the case|0 He wrote this with confidence No source needed Upgoats to the left|1 Im always happy to share positive news D|1 Healthcare systems all over the world are having shortages this isnt a problem of a for profit healthcare system Im in Canada and were having the same problems The one thing we dont have to worry about though is that patients dont have to worry about how they will pay|1 The Governor will probably announce a tax cut for the top 1 earners and ease up on gun control due to the virus|0 On Thursday the World Health Organization praised the Chinese response to the new outbreak and said it did not recommend any restrictions on trade or travel to China because of the virusWow I remember this from the WHO Incredible|1 Aggressive screening at our airports Uh huh Sure thing there boss|1 This is getting out of hand Now there are two of them|1 It will be the worst in cities especially The only people able to take off are well paid tech workers usually I think thats a major reason why nothing is being done about the virus They know people cannot afford time off|0 I agree with that sentiment|1 I cant believe they are still have their schools operational With the population density and the already high number of cases in NYC what are they actually thinking Close the schools already I am a Doctor btw|1 low risk|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Fear Not how to pay your mortgage|0 Downplaying the flu is just how society adapted Its still a serious pandemic thats just equalized at this point This coronavirus is lost to the flus noise until it surpasses the flu in the publics eyes and then its too late Early panic wont do shit and only hurts the mitigation phase thats inevitable at this point We can stop this but the cost is impossible to implement in much of western society let alone the rest of the worldBuckle in Keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times|0 the dam broke|0 Ask them how many COVID19 patients Dr Drew has treated Ask them if Dr Drew recovered from COVID19 Does Dr Drew have preexisting conditions Does Dr Drew have elderly loved ones Loved ones with preexisting conditions|1 Reddit oh my god the numbers gonna go up|1 Chris Martin from Coldplay did one todayhttpstwittercomcoldplaystatus1239635559246692352s20 Hopefully becomes a daily event with different artists|1 Will you be able to tell this to those who will lose loved ones over it Those who already haveFor me the worst part of this virus is the people who hold these gatherings go to these gatherings and contribute to spreading it The second worst part is the its just a flu m8 mentality If its the flu then its the flu on a massive scale and the worry is if our hospital can handle the amount of at risk people who cant handle it|0 That is the good news They have been lying to us for weeks if not months Half the people around me are coughing and have been sick for a while Its probably everywhere already If were not seeing huge numbers of people being hospitalized with pneumonia yet its a milder strain or our population has better immunity|0 we have a grand total of 29 infectionsThe problem with exponential numbers though is httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvbyk3pA1GPgU|1 Thank you|1 From what I can tell the CCP shill Reddit accounts are flooding every post that paints the Chinese government in a negative light with reports so the mods get overwhelmed and then lock the post down Its incredibly frustrating|0 But I always here Scandanavia and such countries are medical paradises that put the US to shame |0 This is the problem with modern business culture and bureaucracy especially in Asia Folks are so worried about incurring operational disruptions and angering their superiors in the short term that they make the expedient decision and in so doing occasionally open themselves up to massive downstream risk|0 Please dont insult me I live in Minnesota and people who live in Fargo basically live in Minnesota|1 In a couple of weeks we are going to have thousands to tens of thousands of infectedWe had a case six weeks ago when the dude from Wuhan was quarantined in Washington state That should have been the green light to start manufacturing and distributing test kitsAll it takes is one accidental infection and we have an outbreak|0 I have an 8 year old the same Not sure hes mine loves jelly sweets though|1 Thats just to funny xD|1 What is her dealMine was calling me crazy and laughing about it with her friends up until two days ago Then she admitted she is glad I have been stocking up|1 Because theyre ignorant Im glad that Italy is doing this|1 I mean it IS a fact My friend goes to work everyday and his son to school and he also has their 64yo mom at home What happens to that woman How do you protect her|1 Hes able to laugh because he can work from home for the next month|1 Damn I just have a fat ass cat that meows like hes starving if his food bowl isnt overflowing|0 Stay strong dudes|1 Idk Personally Id be more likely to avoid the ER if I thought I could|0 This disease is great for someone with social phobia like me Dont leave the house Got you covered Ive only left the house once in months|1 Im wondering how many cars will be repossessed I traded in my paid off car two months ago for a nice shiny car payment I was a bartender I thinking that career is over for 6 months|1 I hope either my state government or the federal government step up Im genuinely scared of the economic repercussions This shit is crazy Stay safe|0 I cant stand this woman and I completely agree with her on this pointI really cant understand how people base their opinions entirely on what team they root for|1 Better than getting cyanide injections Regulations exist for a reason|1 my internet is slowhow they got tested if they had no connection to Wuhan Its america we dont test just anybody|0 Im Irish and agree with Trump on thisThere was thousands of Americans who voluntarily elected to go into 2 week quarantine when they returned from Asia Now it turns out 14 days is outdated information and their own State Department was expediting probably infected tourists into their general population That is a betrayalThere is a connection between the US State Department and many scientists and it is this their psychology leans to looser borders and xenophilia This is fine as political and social opinion but in the war or pandemic scenarios that psychology is a liability A liberal will not watch for external threats like a hawk they will be too preoccupied with internal problems like social discrimination which when people are dying is not priority|0 oh god I ride my bike every weekend in that neighborhood|1 Its scary I was told come on lets be realistic most people just get mild flu symptoms I just do not understand how they think its fine and dandy to just let kids spread it to parents and grandparents I dont think think they are going to do much around here in the states until the teachers all start getting sick I work in a school so wish me luck |0 Unbelievable|1 Not in the US it isnt Thats only 30Kyr which is well below both the mean and median|1 if this is true just in the last 24 hours Ive seen 50 asymptomatic 16 and now 86|1 Our care standards have dramatically improved On an individual basis That matters zero if hospitals run out of beds ventilators etcEdit beds|1 You are missing a key piece here testing tracing Tracing is crucial to discover the ones missed by testing The problem with this virus is that its easily spread before being sympomatic With your idea you would soon infect the entire population worse than Italy|0 httpswwwcbccanewscanadabritishcolumbiacoronavirushurtsbusinessvancouver15462052Primarily Asian mall in Richmond BChttpswwwburnabynowcomnewsburnabyscrystalmallvendorssaycoronavirusrumoursdecimatedrevenuesby80124081640Another in BurnabyAnecdotal but I agree with the above 90 I frequent these places am white definitely in the extreme minority|1 they attached him to it 3 hours after he was pronounced dead for optics so it looks like everything possible was done|0 Thank you brother |1 They are its crazy I have been watching this around jan 20th I saw some scary stuff coming out of china did some research for a week and started warning family friends everyone started treating me like I was crazy even with proof now they still keep carrying on 2 family members even taking vacations because cheap flights The absolute craziest shit Ive ever seen total denial|0 ACCEPTED MANUSCRIPTIn Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 SARSCoV2Xueting Yao Fei Ye Miao Zhang Cheng Cui Baoying Huang Peihua Niu Xu Liu Li Zhao Erdan Dong Chunli Song Show moreAuthor NotesClinical Infectious Diseases ciaa237 httpsdoiorg101093cidciaa237Published 09 March 2020 Article history PDF Split View Cite Permissions ShareAbstractBackgroundThe Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 SARSCoV2 first broke out in Wuhan China and subsequently spread worldwide Chloroquine has been sporadically used in treating SARSCoV2 infection Hydroxychloroquine shares the same mechanism of action as chloroquine but its more tolerable safety profile makes it the preferred drug to treat malaria and autoimmune conditions We propose that the immunomodulatory effect of hydroxychloroquine also may be useful in controlling the cytokine storm that occurs latephase in critically ill SARSCoV2 infected patients Currently there is no evidence to support the use of hydroxychloroquine in SARSCoV2 infectionMethodsThe pharmacological activity of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine was tested using SARSCoV2 infected Vero cells Physiologicallybased pharmacokinetic models PBPK were implemented for both drugs separately by integrating their in vitro data Using the PBPK models hydroxychloroquine concentrations in lung fluid were simulated under 5 different dosing regimens to explore the most effective regimen whilst considering the drugs safety profileResultsHydroxychloroquine EC50072 M was found to be more potent than chloroquine EC50547 M in vitro Based on PBPK models results a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARSCoV2 infection as it reached three times the potency of chloroquine phosphate when given 500 mg twice daily 5 days in advanceConclusionsHydroxychloroquine was found to be more potent than chloroquine to inhibit SARSCoV2 in vitroChloroquine Hydroxychloroquine SARSCoV2 Topic chloroquine hydroxychloroquine antiviral agents sarscov2Issue Section Major ArticlePDFThis content is only available as a PDFAuthor notesXueting Yao Fei Ye Miao Zhang Cheng Cui and Baoyin Huang contributed equallyDongyang Liu Wenjie Tan and Haiyan Li contributed equally The Authors 2020 Published by Oxford University Press for the Infectious Diseases Society of AmericaThis is an Open Access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License httpcreativecommonsorglicensesby40 which permits unrestricted reuse distribution and reproduction in any medium provided the original work is properly cited|1 The British govt have made clear in their plan that they dont believe that the evidence ie their previous modelling supports early lockdownsocial distancing as people get fatigue and will break it if there doesnt seem a compelling reason to stay confined Also I think they dont want to seem like a nanny state which we could do with much more of right now IMO Feasibly we might only get locked down once every other country has banned us from travelling to them|1 Not really In the last fee days the number of tests done is10036935110312393120312857130311477140311682150315729160313063numbers per dayOn the 1603 we are missing some results from the region of Puglia and the province of Trento but their numbers is not that high|0 Seriously Been smoking for 20 years Bought a Juul as it helped my coworker quit smoking so I bought one almost 2 years ago thinking itd help Cannot make the switch completely though so I do both Ive cut down on cigs its way less these days Now that pot is legal in my state I vape and use flower occasionally like 2 hits every other weekend Im a lightweight its not much but stillmy poor lungs|0 Every government has authority Its a spectrum Calling China authoritarian is a meaningless propaganda China is run more like a corporation in the US And nobody demands democracy in a corporation There are pros and cons to every systemThe US system is dysfunctional and inefficient and corrupt people are always unhappy with the government but they keep voting and voting and voting and voting and |0 They get sick maybe die and exactly zero people will care We are the peons of society we are expendable and we know it No masks will be provided Our bosses will require our attendance at work from the safety of their home And inevitably when we die our job listing will be posted before our obituary|0 Remember the PLA Peoples Liberation Army swears allegiance not to the state but to the Communist Party of China|1 Well Xinnie the Pooh has been avoiding the public does that count What about the big corporations SONY Facebook Apple etc all dropping from the mobile global development conference Does that count Or does it have to be an important elected official from a democratic nation|1 When that relief finally comes you may be pissed to find out your supplies are shit Like enough to live on but shit Personally Im stocking up on the good eats life steak bacon chicken etcYou are right Gambling power wont go out|0 I am a travel nurse and the situation seems more bleak for us due to the nature of how our contracts are worked out especially in California where I work now since it is at will we could be dropped from our contracts and jobless just like that as opposed to their actual core staff Depending on the travel company you are with they may not provide any type of assistanceThe sad thing is a fair amount of these travel nurse companies are currently offering crazy pay to go take care of Coronavirus patients What if we get exposed due to poor conditions and inadequate equipment Now we are quarantined for at least a 13rd of our contract and may even have our contracts cancelled|0 If you search Facebook for The main epidemic situation is in Wuhan you will find many accounts posting this script Its definitely a canned response|1 Any cases up north in MA Sao Luis MA I know someone who had been hoping to travel there I then pointed out that at both Canada and Brazil have a similar number of cases They would be safer just to stay in Canada Airports and planes would be the place to catch it as well Especially so in SP or DF airports connecting from international to domestic There are also a lot of poorer working class people who will likely keep working and not be able to simply stay home So now they are thinking December That is the soonest I could even envision any air travel|1 The coronavirus subreddit wont let you say this they must have bought it out me and 3 others tried REDDIT ATTACK|0 Redditors have said the patient is at Northwest Community Hospital in Arlington Heights They either came back from Japan from a cruise OR they came from S Korea conflicting info|0 Its not a key part of the Trump strategy if theres no data theres no problem right|0 Masks really dont do anything and theyre not available in the US anymore Its better to stay home if youre sick or not get coughed on and not touch your face and sanitize everything if youre not sick|0 If you talk about cleaning corruption ask for more testing is what we need to do to expose corruption Let the virus spread and killing ppl cannot stop corruption but when ppl try to save themselves they can And NYC kept have nearly no testing in February and we can see the extreme number of cases now Having no test itself has nothing to do with whether ppl care about their city or not |1 This is stupid It doesnt matter how many Chans you have its the number of travellers to ChinaSE AsiaVancouver has lots of travellers but the raw number of Chinese means nothing|0 The guy felt sick during the week end but decided to go to work on monday so who knowsI guess if one of the new case didnt met the chinese lady it would clear itBut Im pretty sure they wouldnt disclose this information before being 1000 sure to not trigger panicmodeedit i mean at this stage people in Europe mostly consider themselves safe if they dont meet someone coming directly from China and this would change the premise|1 Whats the scoop|1 My wife is a waitress at a small casino in PA Luckily they are paying all their workers while they are closed Waitresses will receive the average of their tips during the downtime Ofc before they announced this we were wondering how we were going to make it My heart goes out to the folks in Vegas Theres no polite way to describe whats being done to them|1 I watched that about a month ago Highly recommend if you want to be totally freaked out about this mess|0 Tbh in Turkey I have never seen such a high number of flu cases and more severe than usual anytime before This January was crazy with flu Maybe that was the first wave|0 Reading this I felt it So strange that just growing up similarly can evoke the same emotionssick feeling of dread creeping fear Whew This is why I go to therapy Glad your daughter is ok |0 But the countries you mentioned failed to contained the virus even though they have already heard about the virus 2 months ago The information from whistle blowers was already leaking everywhere here youtube broadcast messages on messaging apps|0 You are not nuts Im 42 and I mildly worried about getting it If I could afford not to be at work I wouldnt go anywhere|0 None of the suits the Chinese medical staff are wearing and dealing with sick patients are airtight eitherWhy do you think it needs to be airtight Its a virus not a gas|0 Pretty rare for little boys to pass on HIV|1 Iran has been the biggest threat this week|0 How would you know that Can you even point to companies that produce them and whwre their manufacturing is and where their supply chain feeds from Because let me tell you theres no storage somewhere just waiting for the money to change hands|0 Theres been no testing so there are no numbers Hence the uncertainty and market panic|0 If Comcast is on board then this is fucking serious|0 Unbelievable because its so obviously not true as to be laughable By tested he means temperature screened They arent doing a lab test for every passenger that lands Jesus|0 Theyre only going to report if the person is dead or likely to die Theyre hiding the true number of cases in a Baghdad Bob kind of way|0 I would straight up walk out and tell my boss why If my coworkers got OT for volunteering to come in while I didnt get a choice and got no hazard pay I would make the biggest scene of my life right on the sales floor where all of the customers could see it Then I would call the local news|0 Question Why cant somebody override this asshole and other assholes like himCant the president just announce All schools in the US are closed and be done with these feet dragging morons|0 The real heroes|1 With 20 of ppl infected having no symptoms and shedding virus without knowing the only way to actually contain this is to pull a China and preemptively lock down All this focus on if you dont feel well and only ppl with symptoms being tested its going to spread|0 As far as I know peoples anger is mostly directed at local government in Hubei and Wuhan Whether or not they hide the epidemic at first is still up for debate some say they are directed by Xi to hide it but their later actions truly showed their incompetency The leaders of Hubei and Wuhan have been fired Discussing Xi in any negative way is a taboo in China People usually self censor to avoid trouble However Chinas political system determines that its usually the local officials who are to be blamed and people generally believe that the problem is not at the top Anyway this is just my understanding as a ChineseRecession or not is hard to predict Many economists in China believe that economic impact is temporary and limited to the first quarter and the overall GDP growth in 2020 can still achieve 5|0 Source on Chester County The county website still says 0 cases and Chester County Hospital is part of Penn Medicine so I would imagine theyd have better tracking or estimates than most|1 I have just started going out wearing gloves and mask I do it for essential shopping and if anyone gets closer to me than the safe distance of 45m13ft I decided to do this because I have preexisting conditions including heart problems asthma and ME Im also over 60 Im a writer and I have projects Im working on so very much want to stay alive to see books published and finished So I decided to err on the side of cautionI felt a complete dick at first Im the only person Ive seen in my district doing this I get stared at a lot But most people have been reasonable They accept theres a pandemic and respect that Im staying safeOne guy told me a mask wouldnt protect me and I respectfully disagreed A young guy sniggered but I ignored him I feel a lot safer going out now I was worried I would appear less friendly cos my smile is hidden But I chat in my normal way and people are friendly in return So overall its going wellSomeone mentioned to me that my eyes are still exposed So Im thinking of getting some clear glasses from a thrift store I think wearing safety goggles would be a bit over the top|1 Ive never been on a racist sub I do support my President Ive been called racist things by people on the other end of the political spectrum though|1 We will ignore it until it really fucks us in the arse which it is about to Brb cleaning my cannon|0 you are dumbWow nice argument based on scientific data See you in 2 months when Gemrnay will be of course based on scientific data without 254 total deaths from COVID19 Take care btw|1 And Im sure some enterprising individuals would purchase them Im not crying for the fucking airline industry|1 I think many would but with the spread of information about the virus I doubt the percentage of people who experience these mild symptoms and actually go to a doctor wont go up noticeablyOn a side note I honestly hope you at least dont go to workschool when youre coughing even the low fever part is not okay but I hope its at least when you cough that you stay home Because otherwise thats really inconsiderate|1 You guys need to cut out the tomfoolery|0 Its almost like people want the doom and gloom vibe around here I have faith in our scientists and will choose to do so until it all gets figured out Heres to hoping for a quick vaccine|1 Guaranteed reddit would shut down any talk about the flu in the name of public security if they had the chance You already see it in some subreddits where rumors are considered fake news even though those rumors come true Silicon Valley want us to trust the government|1 Good thing we are all infants|1 This is demonic Why is porn ever free Really makes you think|1 Well I just mean the start of the full force and result of the actual business side of Coronavirus Coronavirus scare affected the markets but the things business are starting to do now hasnt fully gone into effect This week is the true beginning of whats to come|1 I love basketball and Rudy a lot but when next season starts up I have a hard time seeing him not suspended for like 50 games especially in a week when a couple other players like mudiey and maybe some raptors cavs and Celtics players get infected too those were the teams the jazz played in the last 10 days I think|0 No its because because one person tests positive and then five people shit themselves in fear|0 Be a man and wipe it with my hand|1 Mexico should be more worried about us than vice versa A virus doesnt care about whether your country is third world which by the way Mexico is not|0 because bird flu didnt come from a BSL4 lab|0 Overall in China it does look better heres hoping the out of province numbers dont jump My concern now however is how and when do things start to go back to normal in Wuhan Theyve been locked down for close to 3 weeks now and based on the increases per day its hard to believe that will end anytime soon|1 If the government want to spread the peak those measures have to be brought in ASAP Any isolation measures take a while to take effect so any reactive actions are already too late we need to be proactive not reactiveWe are past the initial stage of containment now that we have widespread community spread|1 Could the difference be related to the fact that men are notorious for not washing heir hands|0 I was just referring to what I had read which is that the scarring can not be reversed Treatments cant reverse lung damage but they can slow disease progression and help you breathe more easilyhttpswwwhealthlinecomhealthinterstitiallungdiseasetreatmenthttpswwwhealthlinecomhealthinterstitiallungdiseasetreatment|1 Sorry we arent qualified to provide medical advice|0 Why does it matter if you get tested or not If youre sick stay home dont go to work dont go near other people Thats what theyve been telling youCan someone explain what the point of testing is when there are so many cases already|1 I could swear that the other guy Chen Qiushi posted the same videos and claimed they were his Am I totally confused|0 Except Im not having fun |0 Its your right to wear a respirator at least here in the US unless your employer has done paperwork with OSHA to show its a safety risk for employees|1 Jesus are you serious Are you living in an area of outbreak|0 If its not already here in Denmark its just a matter of time Fuck this shit no one here seems to care much Im going crazy thinking of loosing my parents who are already sick Im 38 myself but my lungs arent that good after many years of smoking Guess time will tell Im not going anywhere from now I have some masks and can get more from my wifes workplace in a hardware store|0 I live in Vietnam they test for fever at the entrance of buildings kindergartens till highshools are closed and some colleges We must wear face mask 100 of the time at schools else they will kick you out There are dry handwashes available at every floor and also in the classrooms People are also trying their best to prevent the spread so i guess thats why we are doing pretty okay|1 Not sure why they need to estimate it when Japan gives daily updates like the one I posted|1 Yea I cant wait for the FBI to investigate all the companies who are going to pocket billions in bailout money while firing their employees|0 Tell that to the residents of LombardyAs if Chinas data is correct do t make me laugh BTW SK took extraordinary measures which others have not Its not cherry picking Its giving a clear view of what happens when health service is overwhelmed|1 Actually they said low immediate threat for some plausible deniability|0 South Korea is at 1 rate 8413 cases and 84 deaths as of today Thats a best case scenario it seems|1 This is from a recipe for about a litre of hand sanitiser so it wouldve been extremely diluted But yes fair point|1 Were not using it just for compassionate use Were using it to try and reduce hospitalizations|1 One would hope that nurses are washing their hands|1 This literally sounds like a Plague Inc news headline|1 SoCal not actively testing tho LA Times reports only 72 tests done by County so far|0 There are still morons on FB Heres a gem from TODAY And I quoteTo err on the side of caution When did we become a country full of pussies We are letting a virus with less than 3 fatality rate cripple our economy and send us into hiding Grow up sissies we have survived plagues natural disasters Terrorism and War before Damn good thing earlier generations on Americans were built more steardy sic or we would all be speaking German|0 We just had a baby yesterday coronavirus is hitting my state right now we all have sore throat and runny nose and this is awesome news|1 Thank you and good post I agree with you from the scientific perspective but maybe can shed light on why I think the message is delivered publicly the way it is I worked in public health during SARS MD epidemiologist and had some involvement with bioterrorism planning In my opinion CDC and state public health depts are truthful and forthcoming but very cautious about public statements and giving out only definitively proven facts I get why having been part of planning press conferences being present then watching them on TV There were t any big government conspiracies we were just trying to get the facts out the best we knew them But it was obscene to see how the media literally cut and pasted bits of video from the press conference interspersed with their commentary and random film to make up their own plot Generally along the lines of government trying to cover up that you are all going to die That said Im really pretty worried about COViD19 Ive been out of the field a long time and theres not enough data to really understand but i see is concerning|1 Nothing about the CF makes them immune Bringing them home and distributing them is asking for a massive flare up of disease|1 httpscoronavirus1point3acrescomenlets hope this goes viral|1 Yeah not one of our usual topics of discussion You chat about this with your buddies|1 At this point we just gotta hope the summer months kill it off as flu season ends Global Warming ends up saving humanity from a global pandemic The ultimate anime redemption arc|0 Terrorism Take a chill pill|0 I know that children generally dont display symptoms even if they test positive but do we have any data about what happens to children who have compromised immune systems|1 Your position of this happened for a reason might falsey convince someone to take different actions than if they understood reality and that we live in a chaotic complex world that IS NOT GUIDED BY A SUPERNATURAL FORCE|0 Im pretty sure he means these|1 Ive been reading Wahun since this all started Since I dont watch TV news I had nothing to make me question what had quickly become a sight word for me Thanks for the heads up|1 While i was never a its just the flu person i have starkly changed my opinion on it While i as a 24 yo may only come down with a just like the flu type symptoms The Nationalworldwide and economic impact it can have is far too vast for that kindve mindsetEdit changing my mindset to it being more and more grave than i thought originally|0 Interesting approach Im gonna have to try this next time|1 I saw that episode on YouTube and I just wanted to comment that it was excellent and I love that expert Hes been in several documentaries and he always sticks to facts Highly recommend watching that|1 Those would also give everyone a wicked sunburn|0 Its good to be distracted for an hour or 2 if you are able Your brother has the right idea take it easy |1 It made me laugh not because its funny but because its just so fucking weird|0 I hope after 23 months of mass hysteria we can all look back at this and laugh at our behavior Or Ill be eating my words|1 St Louis here Dumb people who will nor wear them under any circumstances Maybe in a couple of weeks Until then Im doing all my shopping after 8 pm Few people are out then anyway|0 REEEEEEE thats bullshit I have no time to work for nice things with all the Netflix and Hulu I watch|0 That seems really low still Just commented this somewhere else but 66 million is minimum bases on 60 getting it and 34 case fatality Thats with hospitals working well That should be considered minimum|0 What are you the spelling police Lol please Your superficial and ad hominem remarks tell me enough about you that I could care less what you think Grow up|1 but shower gels largely untouched People will go for the next best substitute It will go next|1 Our government doesnt care|0 This is silly thinking Yeah itll be there eventually but the key is not all at once Stop it|0 httpstwittercomlooknerstatus1220845426351452162As several have pointed out thanks the article says all three France patients had been in China So perhaps third person was infected in China Dont know at this point if one of the two close relatives infected the other and if so whether that happened in China or France|0 emergency services will still maintain at the highest level of strike|0 Lies Lies Lies You pigs just allowed it httpswwwwashingtonpostcomworldchinamakesauturnonlegalizingtigerandrhinotradefollowinginternationaloutcry20181113ce9c0278e6f311e8bd89eecf3b178206storyhtml|0 We were told to assume we have the virus we have had it for about a wk in our household we have been taking otc meds nonstop as well as had to take prescription meds to deal with the symptoms I still absolutely horrible even with max meds on board I also have an autoimmune disease so its hitting me really hard My advice is to be ready to be in bed most of the time Im so sick it keeps me awake all night and I can barely sleep when I finally do its from my body completely crashing at random times anyways keep up on whatever meds u have drink a lot of tea if ur throat hurts as well as popsicles we ordered a pulse ox reader so we know if our oxygen levels get too low to go into the ER other than that theres not much u can do other than hope ur body fights it off soon|0 The successless banker the successless nuclear physicist and the very successful virologist At least one of them is trustworthy|1 Coronavirus was estimated to have been spreading in US communities for weeks before being acknowledgedIf thats correct I dont think its an exaggeration that over a thousand people are probably infected|0 The super elite wanted it to spread in hopes of reducing the population and using the fear to bring in the New World Order|1 I respect that but have we not already told people its serious Thats what caused the panic When you get on live tv many worried people watching and say your loved ones are going to die you cause panic They have also stated particularly yesterday that 80 of people could get this as it lasts until next spring The exact statement also included the fact 78million people could become hospitalised I would argue that warning people of its seriousness is exactly what were doing hence why people are worried Trouble is if youre going to talk about its seriousness you must show you are fighting it appropriately Taking little action that is also hardly enforced is not proof of appropriate action|0 this guy fucks I hate reddit so much|0 Its like that story of a person with aids intentionally infecting others so they wont be alone in their struggle|1 Maybe im stupid but did you mean Pdio|0 No worries|0 Theyre trying to emulate the same things they did in the US dont remember the stateThose guys suffered heavily|0 Besides who makes fun of RBG and prays to ted cruz you waste Make me feel awful we got same political views but atleast i no the laws we pass never affect you Cause some1 who laughs at other suffering will never make more then minuim wage or hand outs Let me guess you hate me and my people because strong black men now make more money then you have a self of community and women love us since we work out good in sports and good to fellow man Right Or you mad the black man more successful then you now no matter how hard you tried to keep us down work the steps work on being a human and not laugh whilr other die and loss loved ones|1 I love to eat them they are the best cookie ever|1 Im unsure why people are responding to me about how women can be as bad as men My post was talking about people not reading articles and still commenting|0 Schools should close to make sure that the virus does not transmit easily|1 I appreciate what youre saying and the media cant be guaranteed to be reliable but Im sure you can understand when the leader himself gives entirely uninspiring and unreliable press release speeches its extremely worrying and hard to find any confidence in the government|1 Do we know if the two strains of the virus circulating have the same CFR Could it be the rest of the world has been hit with the earlier strain of the virus before it mutated Although this strain is thought to be less contagious and easy to contain could it also have a higher CFR|0 There is no perfect solution|1 One of the reasons Ill never live in the USA|0 Get the attention of the media with this on twitter by going directly to their accounts and sharing it We knew this was happening|1 No jokes only panic|0 Whats the actual term Because honestly if he had said dwarves I would have thought of Lord of the Rings|1 Cant they do this without an audience its not like this show has guests most research and writing room stuff can be done video conferenceThe other shows are mostly entertainment John Oliver is education and activism|1 Nope if all the billionaires in the states came together and put together a fund I would be applauding them|1 F My condolences or RIP in videogame meme cultureIts from COD where they make you press the f button to pay respects to dead guy|0 thank you for sharingthe more people who tell the more opportunity for those staring at the oncoming headlights to make choicesi would sing it to your local news copy and paste it to online news comment sections this is the time where you are able to help save lives just by speaking the truthtwitter you representative your senator your city council your health departmentwe will not be helped we must help each|1 Exponential growth when speaking mathematically which in studying data we should be in a virus is very close to impossible if you just mean the mean growth is larger than its reduction rate well thats just called growth lmao|1 This guy is talking about its own hospital not all Its a leading hospital for the worst cases they wont handle people with few symptoms|0 Depends on the kid haha|1 My school has finals next week spring break right after that and then two weeks of online classes if possible not all classes can be done online Just by hearing fellow students talking in the hallway I can tell that my small town could be in trouble once all the college kids come back A lot of this towns population is in relatively poor health and elderly Not to mention poorThe overall attitude seemed to be If we get it we get it oh wellApparently fuck their boomer parents fuck our boomer professors and fuck the actual natives to this town|0 You gotta focus on those who you do really care about and use everything in your power in order to convince them After that youve done your duty I did try that though most of them didnt care The same ol Those who value life truly are worthy of attention|1 This is because they are trying to mitigate public panic If everyone around you started wearing masks youd suddenly be much more aware of the situation Also there are not even close to enough masks for medical professionals let alone the general public|0 Same here and my wifes at high risk lung cancer with a lobectomy high BP and a history of getting respiratory infections including pneumonia |0 And I suspect comorbidity is going to be a big factor in the US ie Obesity|0 Not to the same extent tho youve gotta admit|1 So like socialism s|1 Care to share a credible source that this is widespread|1 They dont want to ruin the stock market bull run|1 Holy shit you are a psychopath You dont need to weld people into their homes to control the spread|0 I am from Gwinnett county do mot live there now but all my friends and family I worry|1 If you switched from Cigs to vapes recently even a couple months ago it takes time to cough up the gunkSource was a pack and a half a day smoker for 5 years coughed up gunk for 3 months or so before it felt like i could actually breath for the first time in years|1 Thing is its only evolutionary advantageous if it makes it more infectious Take Ebola its so deadly that it limits how infectious it is But if a strain became weaker that might improve its chances of spreading hence its evolutionary advantageous But with Covid19 its already very infectious so a weaker strain has no real advantage for the disease|1 No its not lol|0 Normal people wanting everything to be OK is part of the problem and part of the reason why more hasnt been doneIf you shut down the borders six weeks ago nobody gets sick and you have millions of people pissed at the government for overreacting to a nothingburger and ruining their vacation|0 Cancer patient here who hasnt had chemo partner has returned from abroad with symptoms so I have to isolate I have a low wbc count and asthma and Im gutted cos Ive had to cancel two very important investigational procedures in hospital Try and put yourself and health first and remember to put mental health first as well the waitingunknown is 100 the worst part Thinking of you x|0 No thats almost exactly how it works The US simply does not have the supply chain necessary to do any of this|0 Hopefully people will think for themselves for once and stop going to the beach|1 Who the fuck though combing an immunodeficiency virus presumably HIV with SARS was a good fucking idea|0 Im sure that is happening Im also sure Xi has been hiding the fact that Wuhan has not recovered and will now start blaming the West instead of admitting that he lied about defeating the virus|0 This is no surprise as so many people travel to and from foreign countries from there Also NYC is so crowded and there are so many tourists it was always going to spread like wildfire there|1 Firstly we cant trust the Chinese numbers Second its too soon to tell if their numbers have started rising again give it a few weeks once symptoms start showing and widespread testing starts again and youll seeA lot of jobs this days could be worked from homeAnd lots cant if the vast majority of your population arent allowed out for anything other than work and food thatll be the death of dozens of industries which means mass unemployment which means no taxes to pay for healthcareAt the very least UK could have banned major eventsgathering We will but only when its absolutely necessary again because its unsustainable|0 Thank you so much for sharingThat is a very good point|1 My husband has a cough and a fever but no shortness of breath He did a virtual dr visit and because he isnt experiencing shortness of breath and he hasnt been out of the country he was told to just practice good hand washing and dont leave house until he had been fever free for 24 hrs Talk about being on pins and needles|1 Started shopping three weeks ago my fiancee and I live in Boston and was on the phone with my mother who lives in New Jersey New York detected clustered cases faster than Massachusetts I told my mother we started gradually stocking up weeks ago and she told me I was being unnecessarily panicked Now I want to check on her to make sure she has what she needs my sister too|0 Schools are still debating about requiring staff to come in and work in order to get paid Its a mess It was crazy how we had that case 8 weeks ago then CRICKETS did none of the medical staff treating him get concerned about who he had contact with for two days before being seen The community wasnt talking about it Public health wasnt talking about it Then the teenager gets tested against regulations and now the situation has exploded Like no shit assholes I bought non perishables like 3 weeks ago to prepare for laying low Im just wondering why anyone in authority is surprised by this Im still required to attend a work meeting on Wednesday All School staff Last time we met three people were hacking through the whole thing Im thinking of calling off sick|0 Unable to breath So dead|0 At this point Ive exhausted my brain trying to tell people to take it seriously Fb is littered with bullshit memes saying its just a problem if you dont wash your hands Im done|0 Is that a good thing |1 while keeping the virus from resurgingThat is the key and Im not sure it can be helped|0 Plus its one of the only countries in the world that doesnt guarantee sick pay to workers Shits gonna be spreading thick and fast and a whole lot of people simply wont be able to afford to skip work or see a doctor|0 Past coronavirus vaccine efforts have resulted in increased morbidity and mortality So you dont want to roll the dice too aggressively Cut some corners but you still need to be 95 sure that the treatment will yield a greater benefit than harms it causes and has enough minimal net benefit that it is a good use of the production and health care resourcesEspecially if youre going to be administering to critical medical personnel etc If you kill more of them off youre more than a bit worse off|1 certainly has nothing to do with the 500m in bonds with a huge return rate|1 Yeah the real issue actually isnt UC Davis but the other hospital that had transferred the patient to UC Davis An intubated patient actually is less likely to spread droplets since the air is moving mostly through the ventilator machine and they were already on droplet precautions So its not optimal but the UC Davis folks are way better off than the folks at the other facility that were probably heavily exposed to this patient unintubated and struggling to breathe|0 OP has practically coughed up a lung here folks and kindly provided us with the picture in the comments Does anyone here know what that actually is Definatley is body tissue|1 From what I read online someone please confirm you cant get tested at the various locations unless the hotline says you can|1 I agree 100|1 From news articles like this httpsamptheguardiancomworld2009nov24chinaexecutesmilkscandalpair Or this httpswwwgooglecomampswwwbusinessinsidercomchinesewhitecollarcriminalsdeathsentence201373fampDoesnt happen in the west Where do you get your info from Because your unsourced expert opinion doesnt sound very knowledgeable|1 The redditair P like a redditorbut with a play on the word air|1 I honestly wonder whether youre having a psychotic break Your rage and total lack of reading comprehension is most easily understood that way 80 will experience anything between no symptoms and three worst flu of their lives including pneumonia Thats literally the quote that you started screaming denies the existence of people who recovered people who dont have symptoms those who have a mild presentation In fact you went on screaming for like half a page At this point youre descending into insults because you know your claims dont hold water Here I realize you dont appear to have reading comprehension beyond a young child but Ill give you some journal articles so you can you know not be forced to make stuff up the next time you throw a tantrum Ill even give synopses to aid in your comprehensionFrom the Lancethttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2002032 Please note that the mild cases comprise about 84 of the sample Here are three publications on Italy one from the NYThttpswwwnytimescom20200312worldeurope12italycoronavirushealthcarehtml one from JAMAhttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2763188 and one from again The LancethttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620306279fulltext Between them we gather that 50 of Italy is requiring hospitalization after diagnosis and between 916 depending on day meet the critical criteria and are admitted to the ICU That renders only 50 meeting the mild criteria out of China And heres one from the WHOhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf whos tracking global burden Please note theyre also in agreement with the numbers I was throwing down|0 Here the schools and daycares closed on Friday Easter holidays which are 3 weeks long begin in 2 weeks so they are closed for 5 weeksFor the parents with kids in school thats two weeks to bridge Challenging but I think most can manage that especially since the kids are at least 6yoFor preschool parents that is very challenging We now have to bridge 5 full weeks There are options for parents that work in essential services medical food public services but for the rest of us there are no real options And we are not on lockdown yet I expect it in the next 7 days so we are essential expected to show up at workWell we will manage For nor our close group of friends came together and we will entertain our 4 kids on rotation so the rest can work from home mostly Not ideal from a quarantine standpoint but the circle is small and constant And we all healthy and agreed that we want to keep the grandparents out of the pictureHowever employers also have been pretty forward so far My employer will ie essential pay you 50 if you have no other option for your kids and need to stay at home fulltimeShort term its fine Long term will also be fine Im only slightly worried about the mid term next 2 to 8 month|1 Im sure the Coronavirus will completely avoid the woke nonbigoted people over those evil racist ones sSeriously Reddit get your shit together|0 At which temperature and humidity In which concentrations How were they applied In which concentrationsAnd I need to point out that people are not cell cultures We have barriers and immune systems The likely values for humans you can derive from those tests are fractions of those times|1 Okay thanks for the updates Stay safe|1 The best medical systems I have encountered are in the far East Relatively cheap and easy access to specialists|1 Because China took drastic measures early on to limit the spread of the virus so the epidemic has mostly stopped there|0 Would be wise during flu and cold seasons certainly|1 I say no more than 10 days for NY and Seattle to hit that level presuming the US starts actually doing an appropriate number of tests this weekremind me 10 days|0 Its all speculative but its likely how they were treating it Not a ton of options there|1 I was watching Bill de Blasio update on New York on Tuesday and he said that there are 1000 tests in a kit not sure if this is accurate or not but thought Id throw it out there|0 I wonder if we have general disease stats that would support that theory I tend to believe its true but I wonder how much of an impact density has|1 I dont think this poster is being honest Not even with himself or herself 2009 in China was absolutely a time when this was commonplace|1 Holy shit Trump just retweeted a picture of him playing the fiddle while the world burnshttpstwittercomwaltshaubstatus1236780349205725185|0 Ive seen a couple users on the forums who were able to get their companies server farms spare cycles The software is quite secure easy to set up and monitorcomputations are done inside VirtualBox VM and network permissions and disk usage are sandboxed to within that VMyou can set the max memorycomputenetwork resources accessible to BOINC and by default they operate on the lowest priority GPU projects tend to be more demanding but Rosetta in particular is CPU onlyNetwork updown is not high for most projects beyond the initial downloadBest of luck I hope you get approval|1 I read somewhere it was about 10 weeks significantly shorter than the flu which is typically 68 monthsTo make this type of decision for an entire country without all the facts is beyond reckless|0 Ok Ill ask Anyone see what a bestcase model shows|0 The countries you mentioned have implemented rigorous infection control policies that other countries so far have shied away from We have been urging decisionmakers to take more drastic action|0 Correct Very poor country and poor healthcare outcomes|0 I think Singapore has done the utmost best it can do and is still doing when most other countries couldnt even press the Start button|1 I second your comment Dr Campbell is a definite source of truth IMO|1 Thats good to hear It sounds like in the us where Im unfortunately at the government is so far only approving ridiculously expensive meds for treatments Yay capitalism Why treat the people with cheap meds when you can put them into debt for the rest of their lives|1 ty|1 I just made a run to the drive thru to pick up a prescription People are in the stores like they are on vacation We will be forced to shut it all down because idiots cant follow instructions|0 Thats great but any employee who deals with the general public should get that anyway|1 If you get infected for the first time your body does not no what to do because it never so that virus Then it starts to build antibodies and if you get infected a second time your body will already know what it has to do You can get infected multiple times but as soon as your body has built those antibodies it know how to protect itself|0 It truly is a small world after all|1 Shit I havent been through it either but I just naturally assumed it may start getting worse I had followed the virus from the beginning and I noticed it became worse But the overall ignorance from everyone is astonishing|0 FAKE AND GAY|0 To be fair to healthcare workers the flu season is also ongoing right now For many people COVID19 doesnt present much different if maybe a bit on severe side Testing capacity is already limited and you do want to prioritize that capacity for the most likely cases That being said I do agree that the US federal government could and should do much much more If theres ever a time when a federal system needs to show its merits its now|1 Okay so let me try to summarize what Im hearing you sayPeople living paycheck to paycheck with no means of support should quit their jobs and then make up for their lost income by not paying rent If anyone tries to collect that money or evict them they should shoot that person There wont be any consequences because the pandemic has caused a major societal shift where police will never enforce property law and the days of landlords and tenants are overI disagree entirely I think this is bad adviceI should probably stop here Your posts will likely be removed for advocating violence No one else is reading this deep into the thread But Im honestly having fun arguing with you so here we go1 You keep saying rent doesnt matter anymore That this is a new world now where no one can take your housing from you That just isnt true Evictions are very easy for landlords They send you a notice you receive an execution and if you dont leave they can arrest you for trespassing It is terrible but thats how it works2 If you shoot the landlord court official or police officer who is trying to evict you then you will definitely be arrested if not killed Also kind of beside the point but most people dont have guns at the ready3 Youre saying that means are no longer a factor because of the severity of the virus and its selfish for people to want to keep their jobs Again I want to stress that unless rent and evictions are frozen people can kick you out onto the streets for not paying rent Additionally for folks in subsidized housing rent is not the biggest cost in their lifeit could be lower than groceries or prescription costs for example In most cases you need income to cover those basic necessities even if you forgo rent If you dont have savings then not paying rent wont make up for that And I know youre saying rent doesnt matter but if you lose your job you can also lose your rent subsidy meaning that the rent you owe will skyrocket I dont blame them for choosing to continue to work in the face of losing their means of immediate survival4 Again of course people should stay home from work if they have the means and everyone should selfquarantine as much as possible But if you cant you can still be relatively safe at your job and maintain social distancing wash your hands and follow basic precautions Were not talking about people going out and partying at bars here5 Just to repeat because Im kind of hung up on it youre advocating for lowincome people to shoot their landlords and put their life as well as their families lives at immediate risk for the greater good And you think theyre being selfish here|0 I didnt actually make the barfbag comment so I cant speak to that The fact is that the longer borders are open and people are freely roaming about the globe the faster this disease will spread the more people will be infected with a percentage of those dying This is why China quarantined over 700 million people What was the result New infections steadily decreased Today Italy increased their quarantine to 16 million Here in the US Spreading silently and freely Canada You tell me which was the original point|1 Doesnt that make you allergic to pollen Like what kind of statement is that|1 I actually think that will be less of a problem You can scavenge anesthesiologists from elective surgery centers senior residents experienced RNs etc Not perfect but doable Vent management isnt rocket scienceECMO on the other hand is witchcraft|1 I honestly havent Patty is short for Patricia|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 I didnt vote for him but I am now yes Late night comedy show hosts are pretty much all just orange man bad NPCs|1 The more terrifying item in the article is the survey at the bottom asking if the media has blown the coronavirius out of proportion Currently sitting at 7548 yes|0 Free ticket Or do you need to pay for it|1 Yeah they need to get those TOAs fixed ASAP time is money and that money is not likely to be refunded in future travels|1 well thats itcant win the game now|1 Whoa thats scary and borderline negligent on all fronts So sorry to hear it If your government learn how to govern in the next 14 days and you can get a free test I think I would be very keen to do so After all your epidemiologists and medical teams need all the help and leads they can get|1 Narrator speaks they made the same mistake|0 As in drunk|0 sadly if the virus is bad enough then old people wont have to worry about retirement|0 What about the WHO If you are healthy you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019nCoV infection|1 Who needs tests though Tests arent treatment to be reserved for those with the worst symptoms or projected outcomes theyre a way of gathering information That information is best used to prevent the spread not confirm what is already suspected We should be testing as many people as we can prioritising healthcare professionals with symptoms above all others but we need to make sure people exhibiting symptoms in the community can be tested to in order to be able to make decisions to protect people from becoming infected as in the case here where there is a potential case in a school to which the head teacher is prevented from taking appropriate action on because they havent been tested|1 Thats scary Im just wondering if theyd do citywide lockdowns no one in no one put|0 Tell them in Italy doctors are currently deciding who gets a ventilator and who gets to die performing wartimelike triage on the general public due to a severe lack of resources sources for this 1httpwwwsiaartiitSiteAssetsNewsCOVID192020documenti20SIAARTISIAARTI2020Covid192020Raccomandazioni20di20etica20clinicapdf2httpswwwweforumorgagenda202003suddenlytheeriscollapsingadoctorsstarkwarningfromitalyscoronavirusepicentre3httpswwwtheatlanticcomideasarchive202003whogetshospitalbed607807Currently the UK is where Italy was a week or 2 ago with similar growth rates and the UK have half the critical care beds per capita than Italy source 1httpswwwftcomcontent34f2503662f411eaa6cddf28cc3c6a68|0 Ive had a bad history with my health and a large part of it is due to my own negligence and of other doctors And despite that I still feel that given OPs situation he should prepare for the worst case|0 What is your problem Think about all the service people that no longer have a job 70 of Americans live pay check to pay check Even with 23 pay they arent going to be able to make it|0 You need to look up what a median is This is good news if anything|1 Exactly a few months ago I thought subs like rcollapse were a bit exaggerated now as a Spanish person I now firsthand how sometimes shit hits the fan|0 Yeah man its terrifying Ive just sent a quite emotional text to my dad about staying safe and not going outside because of what Ive read here I feel so powerless to this situation|0 Im traveling with my grandfather in a couple of weeks whos 85 and I couldnt give a shit if I caught it Id be devastated if he caught it Hes a healthy 85 year old who could maybe have another decade of healthy life A decade is a long time|1 True but every time a new case is identified the 14 day quarantine window resets|1 I believe that Its times like these that make my boring life in a tiny Massachusetts town seem ideal Im really thankful to not be in a major city The closest is Boston and Im two hours from there I think the US has made some major strides if everything we are told will happen will in the last couple days and Im hoping its not too late Its promising to see that the National Guard has already been brought into several states and I hope that continues Id prefer an Italy style lockdown sooner than later|1 I hope the virus doesnt hit here because we really would not fare well if hit I wouldnt want to be anywhere near a major American city that was quarantinedSadly you already have been hit as this woman came back to the US on the 13th and didnt seek medical treatment until the week of the 1925th That means she was infecting people in Chicago left and right for up to two weeks already Youll hear about those newly infected in 24 weeks It will be avalanche of new caseshttpswwwdailyheraldcomnews20200130firstuscaseofpersontopersonspreadofcoronavirusinchicago|0 trump isnt exactly the worlds best boss|1 They dont care about you or your health You did the right thing even though it was a very tough thing to do Protect yourself They sure as hell wont|0 I dont feel like thatd be helpful It doesnt seem super clear that insisting everyone go to the grocery store will be better than everyone getting takeout|0 Doesnt every man do that Ive seen friends with somewhat long nails and Ive always associated letting your nails grow long as a guy as an unhygienic and lazygross thing You never see the whitesdead growing parts of my nails cause I clip dat sheet off ASAP|1 Thanks for the video I just showed my SO because they were scared of the unknown and this helps|1 That assumes we have an election in November At least two states have now delayed their primaries|0 Id rather have my family bug me about my extreme paranoia down the road on our next vacation than have to say I tried to tell you down the road on their deathbeds|0 Well I think the hole world has been cutting education and health budgets Oh my I wonder why |1 US has a significant force in Germany We should break into their hospitals take the ventilators and ship them back home|1 Im British South Korea are testing 20000 a day It can be used to correctly identify cases even with few symptoms and has a positive effect httpswwwscmpcomweekasiahealthenvironmentarticle3074469coronavirussouthkoreacutsinfectionratewithoutfbclidIwAR1wSo2rimlCMzud8PayAV4NXiPZppbV10pePEOqZtoh3gm9ZBfvZNDo|1 We arent ready for this because we spent the last month and a half telling ourselves that it isnt worse than the flu|0 My daughter was born here last year and she is a proper Floridian like you sun According to stats 41 people in Florida came here out of the state|1 httpswwwtheglobeandmailcomcanadaarticlebetween30and70percentofcanadianscouldbeinfectedwithhttpswwwtheglobeandmailcomcanadaarticlebetween30and70percentofcanadianscouldbeinfectedwithx200Bfirst they are brainwashing usx200Bx200Bsecond they said its KNEE JERK REACTIONx200Bhttpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799httpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799now tests are being 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actions shed one or more types of particles is not the same Also its not that these respiratory particles dont always exist but whether the respective viruses are in them and whether they are viably transmitted in them ie stable high enough concentration deposit at the right site etc In many cases this is a roughly black box situation where we can impute these constraints from observations and work backward from there eg Is an N95 stopping flu spread over a surgical mask Mostly no so it is not a fine or small droplet virus etc|0 You might be better off getting laid off if its going to close the business otherwiseI have 4 employees and if we cant stay open I will have no choice but to the close the business|1 I also spent a while finding South Korea since it was under Republic of Korea They arent calling say Denmark and the US by their official names Kingdom of Denmark and United States of America so Im not sure what that is about And yeah putting China down as China mainland would probably be less confusing|1 httpswwwfacebookcomsiddharthsridhar5posts10158387003254258hclocationufihttpswwwfacebookcomsiddharthsridhar5posts10158387003254258hclocationufi Check out this post by a Microbiologist with references listed Surgical masks helps not just N95 respiratorsWhat specialty your doctor is And your wife I believe she is specialised in nursing not microbiology|1 Looks like they went from Hong Kong to Taiwan to Okinawa and then finally to Tokyo httpsiimgurcomRErWHmujpg|1 At my work I come into pretty close contact with thousands of different people each day many of them locals but also many travelers from all over the US and the world I havent seen hardly anyone wearing masks yet and I understand that social distancing is probably better when I go to the store or whatever but I have been wondering if masks would help in my workplace because it can get pretty packed|1 No I cant walk much so its easy to avoid those places More worried about having to put my son in daycare and my husband working at a major construction site|0 It was deliberate But not for some nefarious purpose perhaps Peoples lives are being lost and endangered for one reason alone Money Those in power wanted nothing more than to prevent any fluctuation in the market for as long as possible Thats my two cents anyway|0 This sub is full of chinese propaganda Wtf|0 Same I wish more people would take this seriously as well How are you doing now|1 Thank you |1 Thats the same for Chinazi as well Number of test of South Korean and Italy are much more every day|1 Its coming anyway everyone is aware and anyone vulnerable is able to self isolate no matter the strategy its down to the individual to protect themselves only time will tell if our different strategy is more effective I like it lets just get it done|1 According to WHO report and other studies runny nose presented in roughly 5 of confirmed cases Not saying she shouldnt be concerned if she had other symptomsWarrants at least a flu test Id think|0 Dont let that fact that the UK governments plan is batshit insane get in the way of blissful ignorance|0 And the supply of services should also be increased IMO we should transition over time to a system where NPs and PAs should take over most of general medicine while we reserve MD training mostly for specialties In some states there are even NP specializations like psychiatry and anesthesiology Overall its mostly doable over 10 years but definitely 20 Especially with advancements in medical technology Plenty of other countries have figured it out America should at the minimum be preparing to roll it out in the future|1 I see three consecutive daily drops on the Iran graph If the trends continue that makes 3 early countries that achieved some level of controlItaly is where the next drop needs to happen|0 Our greatest lord and master|1 Heres my theory Theyre aware that theres two type of virus S type and L type One is deadly one is mild They probably know that the community spread is the mild type and want to just test the travel related so they can tell if the deadly type arrives|1 It was developed near my city Used in China just approved in Europe US Who knows httpswwwbiomedomicscomproductsinfectiousdiseasecovid19rthttpswwwbiomedomicscomproductsinfectiousdiseasecovid19rt|1 It would mean that God wanted him dead though|0 Dont be surprised if someone breaks your face though|0 Its not really about getting tested its about people being out and about spreading it unknowingly The people that are sick or have symptoms are the least of our worries|0 I said I could not live under censorship That Id rather be broke then be unable to express my thoughts and got downvoted into oblivion on rCoronavirusUS|0 Do not panic citizenThere is no virusAlberta is safes|1 Most of the worlds trading is not done in person They will not shut down the NYSE for any length of time Feel free to come back to this comment and tell me Im wrong|1 Wow bless you Thanks for making me really feel not so alone in this |1 you are literally advocating using the police to scare people into submission|0 id imagine china will stop turning a blind eye to this kind of shit after the blow to their economy the virus will have|0 That is so far from the truth that I dont even know where to begin|1 It is important that you remember to wash your hands regularly it can have major impact on the spread but it is also important to wash them righthttpswwwwhointgpsccleanhandsprotectionenWe are encuraging the importance of washing your hands over at rcleanhandgang|1 My family is brazilian I have friends there and it baffles me how it seems that none of them are taking this virus seriously The people that I know are not practicing social distancing and think that they wont be affected Brazilian health care system sucks Im glad that Im not there if it gets to Italys level Considering that few of the individuals that I know there are taking social distancing guidelines seriously that will probably be the case|1 That would make a pretty good news story Just saying My work a farm and home store sent out a memo on coronavirus today They said they wont be doing anything differently and to contact health officials if sick No sanitizing for workers no approved list of disinfectants for cleaning carts restrooms frequented areas etc What theyre really saying is youre disposable and they dont care|0 Dont worry its ok I truly understand the sentiment were only humansYou are right hes scared we should all be right now it goes in phases the quicker one moves from denial to actively fighting it the better|1 private nonprofit insurance being nonprofit doesnt preclude a corporation from being psychotic vultures it just doesnt allow for it via stocks executives can still pay themselves and their friends arbitrarily large salaries and have the same incentive to cut wages or charge as much as they can get away with for that coverage There is no solution to this healthcare fuckery that involves corporations or rich people|1 That makes you a good human Be happy about that|1 Their explanation is plausible you wouldnt want to spread it to outpatient clinics from people suffering less severe symptoms|0 China produces almost double what the US does in CO2 so its almost better that it happened over there if were taking your argument And anyway this wont make any permanent change itd be better to actually reduce emissions by legislation rather than freak events|1 There are plenty of viruses that can last over two hours on surfaces I think making blanket statements like that can put people in more danger Saying that people shouldnt panic because insert language like often frequently is believed to typically in most cases similar viruses have been known to But Im pretty sure I read that COVID19 survival rate on surfaces is not universally agreed upon Anyhow survival of virus is not the same as how long the virus on a surface is contagious I cant imagine they have all that info already Even with viruses we know very well and have studied for decades the official amt of time it is contagious on surfaces is always a pretty wide window because it depends on so many environmental factors Some common viruses have a window of like 2 to 24 hours And the maximum possible window is probably more important than the minimum|1 My dad is a 49 year old tow truck driver in Daytona Florida Im honestly scared that he might get sick|0 I just commented above I live outside NYC in a NJ suburb thats purple with blue to the north and red towns to the south Everyone is taking it seriously here Schools all closed people maintaining distance calling each other up to check in help out if possible etc The problem in this area I can unequivocally say is New York City Completely full of shit response schools stil open which many businesses are using as an excuse to try and say its not that bad see the subway is open too and all mass transit and no matter how hard Deblasio tries to pretend its business as usual it seems like a virus trap going into Manhattan My office of mostly commuters didnt get to work from home until someone in our office made contact with a person known to be infected Our boss already thinks its okay to come back The stupidity here doesnt seem to stay on one side of the partisan line at all out in the wild If anything Id say young transplants almost entirely Democrat too and business owners in NYC are the absolute worst Ive seen in terms of being recklessly ignorant even including Trump as of yesterday at least|0 Yes Voluntary lockdowns arent being heeded for a multitude of reasons and reducingeliminating person to person contact is the only effective tool we have at the moment|1 Nice finding I am a scientist but not in the BiologyChemistry field Looks very interesting Too bad we cannot help the professionals|0 I wish there was a better breakdown of location|1 There seems to be a disproportionately low number of smokers getting sick The same question was raised in regards to SARS|0 I did the same thing then stupidly hung out wirh my friend because I needed 20 she just came back from visiting fairfax va hospital where there was a case and she just got over a bad sickness with coughing and fever and was coughing when I saw her I really am worried Im going to show symptoms Im already feeling sick so time will tell but Im def going to not see anyone anymore after that mistake|0 They show mice that had SARS and then got rechallenged They get a lung infiltrate but then have no viral titers Ie they have no productive infection Probably similar in humans getting reexposed isnt good but if you have antibodies you dont get sick all over again|0 I agree but Im starting to rethink South Korea is saying the death rate overall for them is 06 still 3x worse than the flu but not this 35 WHO is saying And I keep hearing Sanjay Gupta say that we will see the mortality rate look similar to this is America when we test more Is this thing just a bit worse than the flu or 20x worse I have no idea and its an important number I think we just dont know and wont for a while|0 YOU should not even go near her Keep your distance and force everyone else to stay completely away from her Require masks and gloves when inside your house shit I wouldnt even let anyone in|0 Maybe its my Scandinavian denial but Scandinavia typical refers to Norway Denmark and Sweden you know the former kingdom Sweden use to have cant help my Swedish self Finland is sorta part of the Nordic countries|0 Thankfully my company decided I am a completely remote employee yeaterday my wife as a psychologist though her work basically said suck it up and come to work just wash your hands Enough cheese and you wont have to worry about about TP either I swear while everyone else was buying tp my wife was buying cheese|1 And how many lives will be lost because of people with ordinary everyday accidents or existing conditions not being able to see a doctor due to the shortage of the latter|0 Massive resources are pennies next to the cost of a nation or world wide economic shutdown In the end the cost testing kits and teams of people to chase down every infected person and trace back their contacts is completely trivial next to the cost of having the service industry entirely turned off for monthsWe are getting ready to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to ineffectively stem the gaping economic wound we have taken The economic impact is so ruinous that price is really not an object If the US government could pay literally a trillion dollars to just solve this it would and it would feel grateful|0 Wow 70 year olds Thats insane do they live under a rock On the bright side if they were to be quarantined its not like they have a job to get back to|1 If that is true then Madrid and Barcelona are fucked|0 I salary sacrifice lease my car I got told after a couple of years that my insurance wouldnt apply to ride sharing and that Id need my own insurance for that|1 Yeah sorry I dont do Mother Jones LOL|1 This is the most important question|1 Trump is one of those people guys might as well tell your loved ones you love them|1 Did not know that my friend so Ive learnt something there Ill get back in my box|1 this all just seems rather suspicious the more days that pass|0 TSA you wouldve also been pulled aside hands swiped every single thing taken out of your bag been treated like a literal criminal by some high school dropouts Gotta love the US national security apparatus|1 You know whats worse for the economy Having 20 of your workforce sick and spreading it to their colleagues|0 httpsdoiorg101086650395This study was done in a public setting demonstrating the viability of face masks to reduce spreading of viral illnessWith proper face mask and hand hygiene the viral outbreak shows a marked reduction in transmission amongst the face mask hand hygiene and face mask only groups compared to the control group|1 But when the tweets stop|0 Because say China bad and people will believe anything|0 literally the most non essential i have a shift there tomorrow and i have asthma im terrified |0 I had to see my doctor about a cough today He is concerned about staying healthy We hand sanitized together|1 Im not entirely sure on that Ive heard lots of explanations about the FDA taking a long time to approve other tests it is their job not the CDCs Those precautions are in place to ensure tests are safe and effective but apparently the bureaucratic process was too laborious in this case for such an emergency I believe that is what the President and Dr Fauci were talking about in this evenings press conference when they talked about the outdated process Not sure though I havent much researched the matter|0 Dude youre wasting your time with these socialists US and Orange Man will always be bad anything opposing them will always be good Their Lord and Savior Bernie Sanders never saw a communist dictator or avowed enemy of the United States he didnt like This sub has basically already become just another extension of rpolitics|0 All will be given supplemental medicaid for corona testing They dont want people fearing to get treatment no word on whether or not theyll give treatment for free|1 Here is what people need to get The deaths and overloading of the hospitals in Italy is from people infected before the lockdown Every country is living this reality right now USA CanadaUK ect The people being rushed to hospital in two weeks are already infected The longer people are out and about the more people are getting infected All at that same time The lockdown measures are to slow the spread down Italy is still waiting for that slow down But it will go easier on the hospitals when they do|0 The reason we are staying home is not so we wont die sheesh the vast majority of us are going to get this Dont forget that There is no outrunning this We are StayingTheFuckHome so that the medical system does not collapse and will be there when we need it Now even if you have to go to work but most of us staythefuckhome its is still quite effective Watch the first animation nobody stays home and last animation where just 75 StayTheFuckHome That being said be safe take care httpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulatorhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulator|1 Only allow the children of healthcare workers to go to school|1 Well the president of the US is on TV telling his staff he likes the numbers as they are|1 Wtf|0 Ive been following this virus extremely closely since it first began to be widely reported in early January Youre saying some things that are true and extrapolating into wildly inaccurate conclusionsIs it terrifying hell yes We all need to be prepared But a 4050 death rate is not even remotely supported by any means in any country period|0 Oh come on Havent they been on the ship for 3 weeks already I guess a 2 weeks quarantine period is just fine|1 I think suggesting that if someone is hospitalized their family wont be with them And if they die they wont see them again I think that is a very real possibility Im surprised the hospitals are still allowing any visitors near me They shouldnt be as they all have confirmed cases|0 i have no clue why that isnt being pasted all over tv ads and being repeated by reporters and politicians daily|0 So true|1 Let them If theyre that stupid they really arent that important to the world|0 3 People are drawing comparisons that are not comparable Youve probably seen your Instagram stories saying that this is just like Swine flu ebola etc and overblown by the mediaTo anybody who cares to answer how is the novel coronavirus different from other virusesinfections Im genuinely asking and NOT debating anybodyEdit added the word NOT It changed the meaning of what I meant|1 Interesting how the increase greatly occurs around the time of the incurbation time of 14 days|1 CPAC has always been lighting a fire under governmentSpecifically to burn it all down and leave only ashes for corporations to own|0 There would not be epidemic globallyWell That not depends on only Chinese Government reaction now There are cases outside China tooand well democratic countries have less ability to do such military like control Of course as situation in China would be becoming worse it would became even harder to keep those disease under control outside China And if it would became better in China for the rest of the world it would be easier|1 Id like you to revisit this comment in 4 weeks and reevaluate whether things have been blown out of proportion|1 Take care of yourself|1 We just really like kebabs here OK|1 I must have missed that|0 Its a weird drug Weve taken is as an antimalarial before and it gives us the creepiest dreams They are most vivid while taking the drug but can last for a while after ceasing it|1 Maybe the decrease in death number is partially due to China help I hope italian will not forget the help from Europe during this crysis They will not forget about it ever|1 There are no delivery times available Im just going to go to the store at 2am|0 The idea was actually always to lock everything down they did it over 48 hours to ease the population in the new measures|1 Shipping ships need a health clearance called free pratique in order to come in to port Were already seeing clearances denies for ships that have called at a China port recently|1 Thank you|1 The tests we develop may be more than sufficient to say yesno you have it or you had it but are past the infectious stage We need the people whove had the mild form and are now immune to get back to work|1 I wont feel bad if GoolagTube gets it as theyre so busy working on destroying the rights of their political rivals promoting the second deadliest ideology in history thats killed 120 million people in just 100 years|0 The state has to declare an emergency and put state and federal protections in place For example if they do a quarantine there are protections so you cant be evicted lose utilities The federal government also needs to allocate money to the states for aid This is on the cdc website|0 I live in rural IL One of my hubbies BFF and his coworker returned from S Korea early last week so almost two weeks ago Both were having flu like symptoms last weekend a week ago and went to ER at our tiny rural hospital They were told they had no testing for COVID19 available and to go home and self quarantine They were never tested and so they will go uncounted IF they were indeed carriers Knowing this information two people in a rural town potentially carriers and NO WAY of testing of reporting to local health dept CDC makes me more than wonder how much more widespread this actually isWash your hands Dont touch your face and eyes Dont share drinks utensils Stay home if you feel sick I think we are in for Mr Toads Wild Ride kids |0 I think its more along the lines of celebrities are someone you feel you know due to years or decades of watching them on tv or in movies Thats why some fans feel like its ok to just walk up on celebs like they know them and ask them all kinds of personal questions and expect some of their timeThose 400 nameless people almost dont really exist or seems more like 20 since you dont see their faces or have known their life stories for years Sad but true|1 NO the Communist Party could have done something in DECEMBER instead of arrestingdetaining the medical people who discovered the first patients|0 Sticky post worthy|1 Im talking about right now not in a couple of weeks If you as a 2040 year old have severe ARDS from COVID then an intensivist will likely not intubate someone elderly who needed it as well or take someone elderly off ECMO and intubate them again And its easy to imagine since hospitals suck at ressource management XD They get overwhelmed every flu season They have no redundancies whatsoever this is why pandemics are devastating Just the small SARS outbreak was horrible for any cities that had to deal with it|0 Why WOULD anyone want to come back out of retirement to put themselves in the way of a virus that is by virtue of their age a threat to them Unless the money was very good most would say no|1 Can barely read this For too many times i have seen this in wuhan I know Koreans and Iranians are suffering too Courageous people killed by lies and greed|0 I know I was kidding I was reminiscing when we would put our kids around others with the chicken pox to get it over with|1 There isnt even enough evidence of immunity after infection yetThis is FUD |0 Your comment contains speculation not substantiated by any scientific article Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate Please refrain from using news articles as only sources If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 ur eithur rich er ur not fiftyfifty ez math|1 I guess its not that black and white I want to start making changes to reduce our risk slightly but as my husband still thinks its like the flu were screwed I wish the authorities would panic the public a little Maybe theyd start to listen Right now no one gives a toss|0 Yay censorship|1 Thanks OP really needed something like this right now|1 Okies dokes No worries|0 Please give us a call when dead|0 Also blows we are all gonna die crowd out of the water|0 Yeah but we wouldnt have cheap cell phones cheap clothes cheap tvs 50 microwaves and all the other crap that improves our daytoday living Im not sure this is the right place for this debate though|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Taiwan is de facto already a soverign and independent country Their applications to the UN continue to be denied Not much more they can really do at this point other than have Taiwans allies like the United States speak up on their behalf|1 Your pets wont get infected unless you spread it to them|1 Its hardly a shock History has proven time and time again that the British Govt are entirely capable and willing to react when push comes to shove|1 Ive been looking on Amazon Scotland resident here and all of the prices still same absolutely insane to meAlso pretty much every single mask product has like 3 or 4 reviews Whats the deal with that|1 Same with my wife but preschool so all those germs are everywhere Im scared for her and our unborn|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The fuck wheres Kansas We just got our first case|0 Yeah youre right lets just lock the passengers in their rooms and not tell them anything Actually while were at it lets not give them food or drink because we cant touch anything|1 httpswwwwhsvcomvideovid567371082This is all i could find They say one person has tested positive for coronavirus and that its not related to the outbreak in china|1 Irresponsible rethoric such as Its just a flu should be avoided Be safe and stay firm|0 But like they were infected only months ago How can you say for the rest of their lives|0 Thats bad news|0 Im 99 sure he isnt infected People here are crazy some are calling for him to be killed by rabies lmao|1 Same Everyone sneezing or runny nose last night scared me Im vigilant with hand washing but Also I work redmond Right by Kirkland|1 The smug way he prided himself on his being out and about on the town to celebrate makes me sick I really hope he isnt sick with it though|1 Typical communist cunts|0 Physicians have generations worth of information to work with regarding other diseases Strep Pneum throw some Ceftriaxone Vanc at it Hit Listeria hard with ampicillin Throwing drugs at bugs become muscle memory With this virus clinicians have 2 months worth of information This is the equivalent of a whole bunch of people coming down with a rare disease and doctors pretty much have to figure it out patient by patient Im sure a whole lot of wrong calls are being made right now because we dont have enough knowledge about how to treat people with varying comorbidities and this However anxious we laypeople feel it is terrifying to be a clinician right now and working in the blind|0 I think its mostly because of him being a Conservative Christian Most likely due to his antigay marriage stance which goes to show you how fast things have shifted Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were also opposed to samesex marriages until relatively recently but Pence I think still isAs far as his oversight of the CoVid19 response he gets criticism for how he handled an HIV Outbreak in Indiana in 2015 I believe He had to pray and think overnight before approving a needle exchange program that would restrict the HIV spread I can see both sides in this a lot of people were upset he didnt approve immediately and had to bring his faith into his decision making but on the other hand others were upset taxpayers had to pay for sponsoring needles that seemed like enabling and affirming illegal drug use|0 Im so sorry I heard grocery stores are hiring like crazy right now although you may not want to risk working at one right now Try reaching out to churches in your area for help|1 Also Im in the UK I know of a lot of people that are still flying to Spain Greece France etc for holidays last week this week next week|1 Love that saing Im a huge fan of linguistic Its fun|1 US numbers are irrelevant to Chinese data as their flu death per year is always around 200We can take their historical average VP death prorated and subtract from the real datawhich like above posters says they probably wont release|0 We humans are doomed|0 Ok I will There are 2 types of immunity Active PassiveWhen you are a kid you get DTaP which stands for diptheria tetanus and pertussis in 5 doses by the age of 5 These are just inactivated or part of bacteria which can activate your immune cells WBCs to produce antibodies to prevent the bacteriae from entering the cells and cause infection But in the US there are antivaxxers they dont vaccinate Now lets say they got diptheria which could be fatal What do we do they then we take the blood of someone who was vaccinated as hisher blood would have readymade antibodies for diptheria And infuse it into the patient who is suffering from diptheria Since we give preformed antibodies its called passive immunisation We dont use blood we use plasma Plasma has no blood cells only antibodies less amount of transfusion reactions I used blood to make you understand my point We dont use human plasma for passive immunisation we use horse plasma So all the vaccine makers who are working on vaccines that would be ready in 1218 months are to initiate active immunity Passive immunisation can help tide the most affected from the grips of death Do as much as we can to save people|1 Lol|1 Teachers keeping country afloat hilariousI agree NHS Ill add retail|0 Thats a good point|1 Where the hell are my taxes goingTo the Endless War mostly Also to subsidize corporations|0 With a statistical daily death rate of around 26000 per day in China seeing people totally freak out about the 170 so far seems kinda a bit lame|0 Im in Rome and the thing that scares me the most is seeing many young people lacking any kind of civic sense I see them complaining for not being able to go clubbing anymore or straight up get upset if someone tells them to stay the fuck home as much as possible I still see people bookinglooking forward to travel and I just cant understand Is it that hard to follow directions from your own government Of course we have many adults and ironically some elderly behaving like this but mostly the youth the whole its just a flu mentality is still going on strong here despite the huge emergency our country is currently facing This thing will be a huge reality check for many western people thinking these things could never happen to them its happening It has been one for me as well I feel like our government is doing its best to try to contain this and the thought that the sheer ignorance or selfishness of some of our citizens is making things worse makes me so sad|0 Thats just shitty|0 The Mayor of Miami just tested positive and is asymptomatic|1 Hehe China is downplaying the situation its not the first time that we see stuff like this happens in China Take their unemployment rate for example its not the same definition as the unemployment rate in US They did the same exact thing during SARS if you were suffering from any other dieses or health condition for that matter and you died they wont count you as death caused by SARS|0 148 dead in Italy The age group of the people who died 4th march 41 people is from 66 to 94 years The average age of Italian patients who died and tested positive at Covid19 is 81 years Where do most old people go in old age elderly communities or carehomes This will be devastating|0 That would probably be considered classified information but I assume federal organizations and military have sent at least some type of notice to personnel Honestly I dont think anyone really knows what to expect This is the calm before the storm imo|1 Yes Recovered means theyve contracted the virus their immune system was able to fight it off naturally and they built immunity The last time I checked there were 40000 recovered|1 They are living on borrowed time after 60 anyways You do not deserve to live to a 100 its an anomaly most do Virus like corona are great like forest fires|1 As an Italian I am very proud of my countrys healthcare system and how its dealing with the epidemicDont be scared by high numbers experts say that these numbers are to be expected since most people caught the illness several weeks ago and this is the moment in time when the symptoms spike up but most of them 80 to be precise dont even require medical treatmentCombine to this the fact that many more hospitals are carrying out medical tests especially in Lombardy and you can see how the numbers are rising so muchI would highly suggest all other countries especially the EU countries to adopt the same measures that our country is taking|1 Youll find that more people are blaming American leadership than America itselfOthers arent surprised cuz they always know that trump is a fucking idiot|0 Ok boomer|1 Which will work fine until the time bomb explodes They dont understand that because they dont understand exponential growth|0 Thank you for the info|1 Imagine that being blunt as fuck changes nothing anyways Because you cant undo the fact that theyve already come in contact with each other|0 Its not okay Go find yourself one of those licensing agencies and have them sell this in your stead if the entire image is your work beyond the annotationsYou might not think its important but every news agency can afford to pay a hundred bucks and you definitely could use a couple thousand yourself Furthermore you can expect enterprises and news orgs to pay you money and still allow noncommercial use in the communityTheres nothing wrong with being reasonably compensated for the work done and there are plenty of licensing agencies that will go after violations on your behalf and shop this around to prospective buyers because they make a commission without any hassle to you|1 28 days lock down is truly needed|1 That was not regular Clorox wipes There were a handful of Clorox commercial products but the exact label name matters They have different active ingredients|1 While its true that the US has more free space and a culture of let me have my personal space rather than people standing squished together like sardines in Europe its also true that the US has the most broadest range of immigrants in the world especially in places like New York City for example And speaking of New York City the concept of space doesnt really apply therex200BThis is not to say that I disagree with you just wanted to play a little devils advocate I think nobody really knows what to expect not even the government itself Thats why the situation is so spooky its the unknown|1 right its why content with wiping your ass with only some paper rather than water like the rest of the civilised world ie Europe and Asia|0 ah well a Roth IRA is an individual retirement account in the US that are generally not taxed upon qualified withdraws rather than having taxdeductible contributionsshrugs|1 Well thats reassuring at least on some level|1 The irony|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Europes reaction in general has been so infuriating Both the politicians and the people I just watched a cat lady on the news in Croatia say that this is all just nonsense and the media trying to scare us Meanwhile our health minister is saying that we should stop panicking because this is nothing more than a fluAll the while our prime minister is saying that hes not afraid of Corona at all and that we must do more to import and house refugees from Turkey because humanity has no price while we live in a poor ass country filled with homeless childrenIts actually insane and I cant get my head round it|0 1 Ramp up production anyways like yesterday PLEASE2 What the fuck government|0 May God damn them|0 Hydrochloroquine shows some promise in labs but I am sure without someone having donated to the Trump campaign involved in that safe cheap antiviral drug no one will be allowed to try it to fight Covid for a few years|1 Been using Reddit for the last 2 years Im older and didnt discover it until then but its pretty much the only social platform I use I usually just talk sports but its nice to see reddit connecting people with information on the Coronavirus as well|1 And plz read the post I link you about tnc That one is part 3 you have 4 parts in total|1 There is conflicting info from what I understand There is some thought that ACE inhibitors may actually cause an upregulation of the ACE 2 receptor But the jury is still out|0 Its just human nature Im afraid Nothing is more important than the need to feel superior until misfortune actually hits himher|1 That would be amazing|1 Yes sure a lot of workplaces have switched to smartworking or are closed schools and so on but most of smallmedium business still work like always think about factories plus you are allowed to move from one region to another to reach your workplace like I do you must have with you a self certification in order to justify your trip|1 I would love to read one to be honest If you can summarize I would be grateful|1 I like the one with the badly cropped baby lamb on the front lol|1 The Chinese Red Cross is rotten to its core It failed to get supplies to hospitals in Wuhan when they most needed them I hate to see its PR propaganda|0 Japan had those requirements too and now look whats happening They relaxed their rules and cases are being detected around the country showing that its already here and spreading|1 You clearly have no idea what youre talking about There is no correction for cost that makes any logical sense for mortality rates for xyz disease preventable deaths etc etc when the cost is higher in the US and the rates are poorer If it costs more to have more preventable deaths happen Then correcting for cost of healthcare in the US just makes our system look MORE shitty Thus I say again you clearly have no idea what youre talking about The fact that you so brazenly espoused this bullshit leads me to believe youre going to just going to do the same in your reply So Im going to preemptively bow out of continuing this conversation any further|0 Lol no Weve been together 17 years He pisses me off sometimes but were still a team|0 168 billion world wide It is fucking terrifying|0 Well you can of course chose which part of the graph you wish to look at And you can probably always find an interval that supports your arguments But even looking at the last five years doesnt show a continuous or significant increase Perhaps a very marginal increase that can be seen as a correction for a quite drastic reduction in the previous period Not sure where you got your numbers for the national debt but they do not agree with official numbers from RiksgldenhttpswwwriksgaldenseQvAJAXZfcopendochtmdocumentWebbUpplaningqvwbookmarkDocument5CBM09Viewing national economy as just a current thing is probably not a good approach|0 I have to credit to what you are saying I will one day like to continue this conversation with you since there are a lot of points for amd against the CCP and how they dealt and are dealing with virus Unfortunately I have mild concussion and having a more in depth talk about this is not something I can do now But you do have really good points that you make if they did work better with the community and did not try to downplay the virus things might have been different|1 Well if theyre the people who qualified for testing imagine how many arent getting tested then|1 There is no point in replacing one place of infection with another The point of closing schools is ending day care The children need to stay home|1 139 danish tourists came back from Ischgl earliere this week All of them wereare infected with coronavirusRight now there are 830ish confirmed cases in Denmark but they are only testing critical cases for coronainfection now Earliere this week the danish health authorities tested all suspected coronainfection casesWith about 5000 ish tested as of sunday So the numbers are much higher I applaud the precautions the Austrian government is takingEdit A letter|0 yes and this time round that window is actually widening fast|1 So much misinformation hereLocal Wuhan government tried to hide it Not the CCPAnd the biolab has nothing to do with the outbreak that is conspiracy theory It has been genetically traced to a local wet market specifically where the live animals are held|0 I mean it shouldnt be too hard to tell by now if you got the corona|1 Not to mention its our governments party who just recently called this a hoax that is now making all of these decisions When you see someone turn on their claims you know you need to listen Especially when its someone known not to go back on what they say|1 What theyve labeled it as is a mouthful and doesnt have the same impact the wording makes it seem less urgent to the average person hearing itAdditionally they first communicated the removal of the pandemic declaration during the outbreak I imagine people would be more forgiving if they announced this change in labeling prior to this when things were peaceful They would have then had time to explain themselves to the public That they announced it during the outbreak looks suspicious to many and the fact that the message they are conveying is not internally consistent and is at odds with what is being said by national health personnel is not helping them|1 One of my employees said it was hilarious Several of my friends said Im overreacting and need to look at the real stats Now my employee is asking what she should stock up on and my friend just got furloughed from her job My pharmacist is still saying its not a big deal and was just saying she wouldnt comply with a quarantine|1 It sounds downgrading and it shows that people are not taking the situation seriously Unlike the flue we have zero immunity against the Corona virus and many people react in different ways to it|0 Gotta keep a nice supply so he can get tested after each time he shakes hands with people which he wont stop doing because its just the flu|1 If you think governments do this because they are communist you are being naiveAll governments try to control the narrative Other nations it appears more clear to us because you can see the big picture from the outside But dont think we live in anything different we just cant see our own big picture because we are in the middle of ithttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvZggCipbiHwEfeatureyoutube|1 been smoking tons of weed to clear my lungs the past 3 weeksClassic stoner logic Love it Your selfsacrifice for science is admirable|1 But seriously no reason to panic I mean if youre afraid of a larger spread in your country get prepared as best you see fit but dont let fear rule your day to day life and dont keep refreshing this subreddit or other similar ones for info all the time Continue your life and forget about it Dont forget that adding anxiety and stress via panicking over this virus also weakens your immune system If you feel concerned take action to prepare but dont dwell on this it just wont helpMaybe meditate or go for a walk in nature a park or the best idea meditate in nature if you feel too stressed out|0 Yeah This doesnt change the fact that 40 more people die every day Its much easier to underreport sickness than death|0 Telling you to earn your own way instead of expecting others to give you part of theirs is not selfish Lol|1 The info that says how fast it can go bad is scary|0 The minister himself said This is where you lost it Reciting from the OP Journalists in prisonhttpscpjorgimprisoned2016php Social media control Twitterhttpsstockholmcforgturkeyoverwhelminglyleadsworldintwittercensorship Social media control ReddithttpswwwmsncomenusnewsworldturkeyfirstforredditcontentremovalrequestsarBB10qs7I|0 Oh not at all if youve been following on on the consensus on the sub this pandemic is inevitably going to kill 12 of 60 of 8 billion people or up to 96 million people and hospitalizing three quarters of a billion people In a yearWWII was a joke of a disruption compared to that|0 As I perhaps poorly worded in the comment you replied to just nowThe source source 8 Guidelines for the Management of Adults with Communityacquired Pneumonia American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine Am J Respir Crit Care Med 2001 Jun cited by that very paragraph discusses the relative merits and utilization of xray and CT|1 Honestly nobody who is TOP in the US has my trust anymore Dont know who is and is not speaking truth these days|1 Same in Denmark been told to isolate myself And call the doctor only if I have breathing difficulties Which Im starting to feel|0 Same I was once told to speak English by a Chinese guy I was talking to because I was struggling to find the right Chinese expression for something I knew in English Ive been saying how are you and its like for so long that I cant even properly greet in Chinese without falling into an awkward silence right afterwards|0 Whats it called Normalcy bias|0 Its better all the way around but better left answered by someone knowledgeable and not me an armchair Googlist|1 Ehhh Ive seen visible differences in cleanliness and staffing between the 1555 rankings Not that any of them can really provide all the care necessary for the population they serve|1 These are the people that give me Thank you|1 Italian doctor in one hospital said median age of their ICU patiens is 65 years old So its not like only old people get very sick Plenty of younger people get very sick as well they require manual ventilation for weeksReason why younger people do not die is that younger body has biological reserve to fight it off while older or sick body does not and they die Italian first case was an 38 year old healthy male runner IIRC He was on a ventilator for weeks|0 Again just because your rate of death is lower doesnt mean you cant get sick and pass it on to others who can get very sick and die Thats the whole point of social distancing Unlike cancer COVID19 is contagious|0 And it turns out they are all faulty |0 The rates quoted are the sum of globally reported casesI dont have a link to the SK report and dont have time to find it currently but it should be reasonably easy to find on google I saw it on rcovid19|1 s means sarcasm|0 Yup Just like police firefighters courts etc|1 Lol Transmission rate is 46 people per confirmed case 4 confirmed cases 16 people on the low end More bc they were wandering about the community at will still more bc the UC Davis patient was hospitalized on a ventilator and no related hospital staff were wearing any protective gear Said staff is in voluntary quarantinesure Sure|1 Keep this in mindMost people do not have the time means ability to keep appraised of the condition They just grab talking points of some news program or politician Or repeat what some mainstream celeb has to say Elon saying this was dumb influenced a lot of people for sure Unfortunately a lot of it is wrong Like DeBlasio saying it only lived on surfaces for minutes It is so downplayed It may seem crazy that someone would still get on a cruise ship but in realty the government and talking heads played it cool and gave most of the population a false sense of security I think later on when we look back we will see how betrayed and let down we have been We are being disregarded|0 Well Florida is going blue this year at least|1 How do you convince Wall Street How do you convince stock holders How can I spend more for made in America and if dont make more I dont think business owners are prepared to pay me more pay more for raw materials I dont think Chinese citizens are ready to unite in a mass labor walk off in order to make more in other to balance the system I think Africa will be the next victims of cheap labor and corporate greed Im all for America first Whos going first|1 Yep|1 Yes if you get diagnosed early and do the treatment you can live with a normal life expectancy Gotta take pills everyday otherwise you die eventually but otherwise you are good|1 As the only responsible country they absolutely should be held accountable Debts should be wiped out from all affected countries in addition to strong sanctions being put into place in|1 Its surprising how many things in his books ended up being real in the future But i guess thats just cherrypicking the examples that happened|1 The people that are stocking up on firearms do that during normal periods too Cant let the libs steal your firearms with the election coming up|0 Thanks thats a good point too Im blessed that my job is flexible but theres a lot of stressed out people being forced to go to work when they dont feel comfortablesafe|0 Maybe the Republican government should stop relying on the free market to provide it with adequate crisis management supplies Or quit complaining about the consequences of their own preferred economic systemIf I have money and demand n95s then I should have n95s Donald|0 I seriously doubt that US will have fewer dead than Europe Every country in Europe has been taking this seriously since the beginning They have been testing everyone and doing everything they can to prevent transmission The US has NOT been testing and has been doing NOTHING to prevent transmission until maybe a couple days agoTrump and his sycophants have been promising next week each week for about two months I have yet to see ANY of those promises kept|0 i am fairly certain i had the same thing the cough took forever to go away but i had chills the entire time|1 Have you seen the world now Is that looking like a good news For some countries with harsh measures yeah but for some who still feeling like its holiday season They are the ongoing bad news|1 Id feel safer in Mexico right now than I do in the US By a long shot|1 Oh we dont were a pulmonary icu and only have 4 dedicated airborne rooms and theyre full right now So were under prepared already|1 none of this is going to do anything to stop the spread of the virus inside of the usa we need to encourage as much social distancing as possible and provide incentives for people to stay home instead of going to work when theyre sick like a basic income for sick people or guaranteed paid time off|0 Part of the problem that will become apparent over time is americas hospital beds are already full up with decrepit old people consuming all the available resources to maintain life at enormous cost that they have insurance for So the system favors them over average Joes who have minimal insurance and average incomeAs numbers of serious flu cases begin to flood in their wont be anyplace to house them Thats why the stay home shelter in place order you heard aboutThis is a disaster waiting to unfold|0 What is everyone going to do when the people we need to fight this start getting ill Its gonna be a work until you cant type of thingThey may need to allow nurses and CNAs who have retired left the field to come back in temporarily unless their license is restricted for cause That could bring in a small wave of relief workers if things get desperate|0 Gilead just set the COVIDstandard by allowing American and international pharma to develop their patented Remdesivir assuming it works without restriction for the diseaseMy guess is governmentspharma are going to be good about combatting this disease|1 Does anybody think CDC insisted on this because there was other things they wanted the test to do something like testing if the virus was engineeredI dont know much about either subject above and not trying to start a conspiracy but genuinely curious what others think|1 Cant believe people scoff at taking a reasonable precaution Seattle has the most cases in the us and pike shoulder to shoulder with people most days Cant believe my resturant is taking more precautions than the military lol|1 Its 4050s all week in northern Italy Same with Wuhan Daegu South Korea Tehran Iran and Kirkland WA USA Additionally Singapore and Vietnam have weather in the 80s90s and also have had the most success in slowing and containing the virus Obviously It is too soon to tell but It is interesting that countries so far with hot and wet climates have had an easier time in slowing infection Currently Sarasota Florida is in the 7080s|1 This is going to seriously fuck over a lot of businesses Not to mention it may do serious damage to shipping companies as well Amazon shipments make up like 30 of our daily volume|0 He gonna cut taxes This virus cannot defeat us because we have the strongest economys Omfg|1 No but the Pope dying of coronavirus would still make Catholics freak out Itd be like if the Queen died of coronavirus|0 Ive seen public health professionals on Twitter basically saying If praise keeps them at the table and keeps them sharing data thats a trade worth making Hard to disagree at this pointDeal with repercussions later|1 There was an infected woman in Tianjin China who went shopping before she showed symptoms She stopped at 3 counters in that mall and all three salespeople caught the virus The doctors in Tianjin wondered how those salespeople caught it they were in the same mall but their counters were far apart they didnt know each other and they didnt share the same restrooms Then the shopper showed up in hospital and doctors connected the dotsI dont know how many particles it takes to infect a person But if an infected person talks to you without covering his her mouth you could be at risk|0 Modern problems require modern solutions|0 In Alberta as well I saw a young guy in a hazmat suit googles and literally a GAS MASK and gloves at supermarket loading up last week It was interesting to note that this infuriated me for some reason that I am not aware of Now I am thinking Good for him|1 I think its more fair to say that 80 never become seriously ill of the 20 that do immediate and comprehensive intervention is needed to prevent longterm health issues|1 No one is more prepared than the us my ass|0 giving companies loans to protect and be able to pay hourly workers Big corporations should have to take loans but not small businesses Lets give them a break Government should cover it|1 A crowd is four people And you really think theres no reason for anyone to be skeptical of the governments approach and its all just partisanship Despite skepticism being widespread and despite the Conservatives winning by a landslide at the GE a few months ago But Ive got to point out the irony you of telling these people to go home if they are concerned when what theyre currently doing isnt against government advice Ergo many people are thinking if the government cared theyd be doing more like telling these people to go homeSo by your own unintentional admission the government isnt doing enough|0 Not for mild cases only for those that need extra oxygen or are highrisk for other reasons age andor other health issues Otherwise monitoring and only start medication if condition worsens|0 Reddit can be a good source of information but you still want to make sure you arent just keeping yourself in an echo chamber either Certain subs can be pretty bad with that|1 I know you and others can do it Make sure your body is healthy and ready to combat whatever life throws at it|1 take from one to give to anotherI agree with the logic and bet we will start to see things like this But its just worth noting and unfortunate that not charging people on one end is eliminating income on the other end Its one thing for the government to help they have our tax dollars and emergency funds and an easier ability to rach up debt in cases like this but when you start pushing this on private utilities and corporations it is different ballgameOr in other words if companies are expected to cover people who arent working in whatever form but also dont have most or all people working during that time then they arent making money to use to coverpay those peopleIf you dont take it from the employers as time off percent of pay and instead by canceling rent that moneys still someones income Of if you instead require donations from grocery stores and walmart etc to people again same dealOtherwise stated this could fuck up the economy on many levels if looking at something like months or more Not saying we shouldnt do it Just sucks|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 And cancel ALL incoming flights from China|0 Yes the first case was thought to be on December 8th though apparently unconfirmed source taxi drivers in Wuhan already apparently knew of it in late November If we go into predictions it can wildly vary because of the long incubation time|1 Does this mean we arent going to have an epidemic in the US I guess its going to be a particularly bad extended flu season s|0 Agree looks like Sweden will just let it run wild til its over|1 5000 fine per occurrence isnt nearly enough if 50 morons hear him say it he still comes out on top|1 Thats not how it works but continue to try and down play it|1 Also large Chinese population in Seattle due to large corporations such as Microsoft and Amazon|1 What Are you a little under the weather brain Get it on the way They are disabledold they are driving in cars parking in disabled spots etc Transport for olddisabled usually isnt public And we are literally on topic about the supermarket they have to go so to minimize chances shopping amongst people who dont get out much gives them a slightly reduced chance of contracting it|1 It seems Italy will be helping the world out by conducting the first human trial of the safety and efficacy of 3D printed valves placed during emergency use|1 Being ignorant of the virus will not provide immunity|0 Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 SARSCoV2 previously known by the provisional name 2019 novel coronavirus 2019nCoV is a positivesense singlestranded RNA virus It is contagious in humans and is the cause of the ongoing pandemic of coronavirus disease 2019 COVID19 that has been designated a Public Health Emergency of International Concern by the World Health Organization WHOSARSCoV2 has close genetic similarity to bat coronaviruses from which it likely originated An intermediate reservoir such as a pangolin is also thought to be involved in its introduction to humans From a taxonomic perspective SARSCoV2 is classified as a strain of the species severe acute respiratory syndromerelated coronavirus SARSrCoVBecause the strain was first discovered in Wuhan China it has sometimes been referred to as the Wuhan virus or Wuhan coronavirus although the World Health Organization WHO discourages the use of names based upon locations PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Harder Wow didnt know I was arousing your little guy Do see a therapist|1 Nice magical bubble|1 This is awesome news Test everyone they can Hopefully we arent too late|1 I dont trust the media|0 Youve gotta be fucking kidding How much do you get paid 5 RMB per propaganda post|0 No I wont Give me an example and it will be the first one I saw People can make fake russian bots and there is much incentive to do these days for attention and clicks|0 What if they get infected a week after being tested They would need to be tested regularly|0 China right now is in serious trouble and the deaths will exceed 100000 in the next few months The US Embassy and Ambassador are responsible for all US Citizens in China School is not a priority Her health and life are They will find a way for her to get out and find appropriate care for both her safety and the safety of the American people She may be put in quarantine and observed away from from China but she will be a lot safer|1 This coming from probably an American Didnt your president say testing kits are too expensive Go complain about your own nation first lmao|1 Sounds like bunk to me but it is important to drink plenty of water especially if you do have it|1 I dont believe thats truePlease read this article very interesting httpswwwbbccouknewsscienceenvironment51874084httpswwwbbccouknewsscienceenvironment51874084|1 FML Thanks|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Average age of dead people is 803 as of today|0 I hope youre right and the hype is wrong|0 Dont forget that you can spend a lot and still wind up poor|0 They need time to mitigate their financial losses Thats what they care about|1 Very new Its my official first day working from home Ive been available remote previously but it wasnt like this more so a Call if you need me thingAgain very new but my anxiety is down today which is great|1 I tried to dispute a ER bill because it was bullshit They garnished my wages|0 We can make up an arbitrarily bad worst case forecasteg theres postdisease respiratory illnesses that kill half of those infected in the 5 years afterwards Everyone on the planet catches it Half the world population dies and the other half struggles with diseaserelated morbidity from long term side effectsWe also might all get hit by a near earth asteroid tomorrow and dieWe have basically no information about the probability distribution of outcomes It really comes down to the questions I asked above weigh them according to your tasteTo me it looks like this is going to be contained or greatly slowed down outside of China at least in developed countries during summer The big question is fall and there is no reasonable information to infer what will happen next|0 The Spanish flu also had a strange part where it sometime killed healthy people|0 The answer is simple the press conference was about attempting to keep his precious talking point about the best stock market ever intact Hes a stupid fuck up and I think well see the DOW drop significantly as a response to his bumblefuckery He does not give a shit about people he cares about himself and maintaining his illusion of success regarding the economy|1 I much prefer to get my propaganda information here than from an inundation of 2 day old accounts that do nothing but push unsourced conspiracy The new sub is way better|0 One county has made groups of 1000 or more illegal at this time two days agoMy SO and I have been selfquarantining as much as possible work store home for more than two months now|0 LOL My thoughts every time this is brought up I guarantee the majority play the game on the regular setting which is essentially 17th centuries approaches to hygiene|1 Got it So the suspected number reported is not the same thing as being monitored for it|0 Dont forget gonna buried the story initially too and threatened whistleblowers Theyre not really being any more transparent|0 StockpileHoard seems interchangeable enough to me if you wanna argue semantics then replace that with whatever word you wanna use for buyinginvesting and sitting on large quantities of something in hopes theyll be worth more laterThe only moral justification for buying out items like that would be so that you could resell them nearat original value and in limited quantities to prevent others from doing the sameThere are enough opportunities to buyresell items that dont involve such a high degree of scumbaggery so I dont know why people would engage in that|1 Wear your masks Its why Hong Kong has slowed it down so much Its stops this from happening and turns it into See Stops you from inhaling the unknown sick thats out there You dont need a new one each time But wear one going out|0 Thats true Theyve been kicking ass|0 I mean we always knew that we were overdue for a major pandemic we just didnt know when or what it would be The thing is that it was a far away threat There was no urgency so people focused on the millions of other problems|0 It depends in Milan a lot in the province like 25 30 percent of people|1 I remain sceptical of this When you compare the figures from the UK to whats happened in Japan or Singapore something is wrong Theres a taxi driver in Tokyo took an infected person the numbers have spiralled from there But an Uber driver in London who also had an infected passenger doesnt catch it No one else in London succumbs eitherConference delegate in Singapore sparks many cases Conference delegate over here again its a miracle not a soul infected|0 Given some of the stupidity Im starting to think there is a mental component that affects decision making or something|0 No youd want foods that boost your testosterone likely Oatmeal tuna red meat and poultry|1 What I dont get If your tenants cant pay since they lost their jobs due to no fault of their own why isnt the government jumping in until they are back on their feet Why do you as the landlord have to be the inhumane asshole in this case and kick them out When I was unemployed in Germany the government just paid for 2 months until I had a new job|0 They should stay at their hotels and see if they have symptoms for 2 weeksYes those people who may or may not have been anywhere very bad not sick and possibly travelling home should just all stay where they are Because it makes you more comfortable not to see those people travelling|1 The only thing people typically stock up on in bad snow conditions is bread and milk Where Im from anyways and they dont panic while doing so They just stock up on extras in case they cant travel for a few days Have you seen what has happened in the supermarkets of China and Italy Definitely much worse than a snowstorm Have you seen how the US acts during Black FridayAnd when most of the country doesnt see it as a threat and isnt prepared when they have that oh shit realization that it is its going to result in more panicking and at the same exact time|0 But people dont want to pay 50 more for shittier products|0 The UKs approach could turn out to be the most effective in the end Its just risky Because if the virus spirals out of control or mutates the approach could fall apart|1 That is awesome Thank you for helping out|1 I find it interesting that Italy has a 22 rate of smoking and only one person under 60 has died so far If there was a strong correlation between smoking and COVID19 mortality I would expect a handful of 3559 year old dead smokers|0 I would be a liar if I said that didnt get a chuckle out of meIn all seriousness though people are so stupid|0 If you look at the CT imaging for some of the earlier cases in Wuhan its obvious that once the disease progresses to the point of bilateral pneumonia with severe ground glass opacity in the lungs the damage is doneId want the same medical treatments that the COVID19 patients are receiving at the Nebraska Biocontainment Unit irregardless if the medications are FDA approved or have proven clinical efficacy They did an excellent job during Ebola using trial medications and platelet rich transfusions We dont know if early treatment and detection will 100 affect patient outcome but my gut tells me catching it early enough to try to prevent serious complications like ARDS and MODS will be key|1 i believe ulinehttpswwwulinecomGrp230DisposableRespirators is sold out of what they consider medical particulate masks but they still had many other similar options available theyre holding stock for customers who have purchased those exact skus before but im sure a call from someone at a hospital explaining the situation and who was at risk would get them to release a few to you i mean they must know that if we expect to minimize the mortality rate we need to protect our medical workers|1 type 2 diabetes heart disease and high blood pressure Not to mention male 68 Im a walking freaking time bomb Covid19 is licking its chops about getting ahold of me I did the calculation myself|0 From someone in the industry your flight will be canceled Dont worry about it Id be surprised if we had texts in a week|1 Your more likely to die from you refrigerator explodingThey can do that|0 Many other people dont get it and they seem to have an abnormal fear of being seen as compulsive so they adopt a cool blas attitude What they dont realize is that reasonable compulsiveness in the face of a dangerous situation is adaptive It confers a survival advantage to the compulsive person and their family By preparing you are being sensible and responding normally to a potentially dangerous situation They are the ones who are abnormal Disregarding a pandemic is totally foolish It is a type of denial that approaches delusional thinking Dont let them gaslight you|0 I mean their choices areLet the food rot throw it awayOrDonate it and get good press|1 US situation could be far closer to Italy than that due to the lack of testing|0 They also sent a journalist to compliment China during Trumps presser They have the NY Times too Theyre in full propaganda mode|1 Thanks for this insightIt makes sense and like so many of your posts is invaluable in getting a grasp on the reality behind the flood of numbers|1 Then let the rich do that with their own money stop squandering taxpayer money for their causes We dont have enough resources of our own these bastards are coming out in droves to virtue signal|1 Good thing we were able to keep our doctor|1 The rent is too damn high|0 Dont think Singapore has any I might be wrong though But yeah all it takes is one super spreading a hole and all your quarantine efforts go down the drain|1 Werent their idiot owners planning on staying open Good to see they changed their minds|1 Just dont go to work Your boss is not gonna care when its mandatory in a week Unless youre an essential job then thanks for your service but some people gotta risk it to keep the rest of us alive|1 Lol thats great new numbers while pulling data |1 No one is complaining|0 Lol I just went to the grocery store again They had toilet paper back in stock and people were not panic buying it|1 spain just confirmed its first death|0 Are we testing everyone with symptoms now or just travelrelated ones Because Im not the most up to date but last I knew it was only travellers and that seems a little silly to me with community spread and asymptomatic spread|0 Best to assume its everywhere now Isolate proactively httpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 You probably would have a better chance in Wuhan Wuhan is now under a level of lock down that we have not seen ever in history Even going out for groceries is now banned They seal your door with a piece of paper and if you go out the paper seal will be broken and you will be arrested You get 1 grocery delivery allocation every 3 days and they will deliver a limited amount of groceries by staff that are wearing full body suits|0 No too late|0 Its not too hard afaik Amino Acids that make up a protein has a 11 correspondence with the mRNA base pairs Im more impressed by the fact that you can so easily go from sequencing the protein to mass production of RNA than just being able to identify it Were really starting to understand the software of biology|1 Its not slowing down there is a graph in the article you posted that shows that on several days the percent of new cases has been lower than the previous days however it doesnt last more than a day before the percent of new cases increases again It would need to be 13 each day with no new case increases before you can claim its slowing down|0 It would make sense if we dont see numbers rise in Wuhan during the weekend After all local economy cant go on without people just not working They will ned to find that balance because I doubt it will simply end fastIt will be probably oscillating until we start having really warm or hot days|0 I already had my panic so good timing on this|1 Thanks so much for posting this Its terrible news sites are keeping paywalls up on coronavirus articles Public awareness is crucial|0 Everyone wearing face masks in China seems to have helped them to start containing the virus I wonder how easily it will be contained in the US with noone wearing masks Which will prove to be the better strategy|1 Same in Australia My husband told me he worked for a guy yesterday who works at the hospital The guy said that ppl are making a big deal out of it and its only killed 30 ppl worldwide and the flu is worse |0 Whats the big danger with COVID Isnt mortality rate low and primarily old people|0 I think we would be safer in Rand McNally|1 Even worse for anxiety I ordered 3 masks from Amazon it was all I could afford since everything is marked up now when I got em the invoice says they came from some province in China|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 As someone who works in healthcare 12 bodies across multiple hospitals in a major city is not newsworthy Please remember that people die every day there was around 270000 hospital deaths in the UK last year Im not trying to downplay anything but I feel I have to interject when people are making erroneous conclusions which can and do cause distress|0 Overreacting is great but if your overreacting involves buying the entire toilet paper stock you deserve the virus|1 This is really good news because it means either 1 H2H transmission is not as worrisome outside of the epicenter or 2 the quarantine and containment measures are actually helpingOr put another way the rest of the world for the most part really does have better hygiene than China and while it will spread H2H elsewhere it wont be as bad|1 This is a fundamental problem with capitalism and the law If we want everyone to follow the law then 3D printing copies of the valves is breaking intellectual property and they should be rightfully sued and have the copies be confiscated and destroyedHowever desperate times requires despirate measures It is not moral to charge so much money for life saving equipments In these times especially when thousands of lives are at risk I think we can ignore those laws protecting the corporates and use whatever measure requires to save lives including 3D printing copies of the valvesOn a personal note fuck the company sueing the volunteers Putting money before thousands of lives in times of crisis is extremely immoral and unethical Who ever is sueing should learn a lesson about compassion|0 Another one of these photos were we see officials spraying people down with some substance How effective is this actually supposed to be Looks pretty primitive|1 Heres some perspective more people died of the flu in China during the same period of the isolated outbreak in Hubei province than Covid19|0 I am getting odd numbers from JH tracker as well It almost seems as if the browser is reading the cache|0 Mines been postponed as well its not a lie at least for BadenWrttemberg|1 If masks dont prevent getting infected then why was I trained how to wear them properly along with other PPEs during my initial PPE qualifications course And at that time I didnt even work with pathogen microbes If you look at any higher BSL PPE list why do you think that some kind of mask respirator hooded air purifier or something is always there After all you said that viral infections cant be prevented by those You think that people working at those facilities are always sick hence the masks to protect others|1 then trust the WHO and continue to treat china like a lying junkie they dont get to be trusted again just for not lying once|1 Maybe Trump realising he would have around a 10 chance of dying from it if he catches it will spur him to stop treating it like a joke|1 Because the shit is fresh you can still smell it Social media accelerated everything and on top of that we are stuck in the very same feedback loops|1 Agreed but in this day and age of brandreputation management and instant social media crusades no big company will want to be the business known as the one who was heartless during the pandemic Look at how all the insurance companies and banks were saturating advertisements during the bushfires saying if youre our customer call us for help today etc Seems like they are learning some lessons in the wake of the banking and financial services royal commission|1 it doesnt matter if countries keep hiding results or at least trying to make them look better than they areItaly has one of the best healthcare in the world yet we have a higher death rate than any other country only because were being honest lol|1 I mean being fired might not be the worst thing if youre in the right demographics to get messed up by covid|0 Virus if you dont respect me I wont respect you|0 That is how you wage a war as a virus|0 Heres a very good question about that and a completely useless response from the CDC httpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0221cdctelebriefingcovid19htmlhttpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0221cdctelebriefingcovid19html I have a couple questions First of all can you tell us how many states have testing capacity Were hearing that only three states at the moment are capable of testing for the coronavirus because of issues with the test kits And secondly and you touched on this at what point does it make sense to still screen passengers at airports given how many countries now are seeing widespread or seeing additional cases and starting you know at what point do you shift to communitybased measures to control this virus Thirdly do where do we stand in our understanding of whether this virus is spread in asymptomatic patients Thank you So i have to say that i thought that this was one question and one followup but i will try I know Sorry In terms of the test kits you know what i think weve been as transparent as one could be about this issue Im happy to report that were fully stood up at CDC There is no lag time for testing at this point That is the focus of testing in the united states the testing here at CDC Weve had no issues at all in terms of the quality of that As weve pushed tests out to the state they did what we would expect as part of the normal procedures which is do the verification in their own laboratories There were problems identified with the test kits That is a normal part unfortunately of these processes We obviously would not want to use anything but the most perfect possible kits since were making determinations about whether people have COVID19 or not So that is still where we are We are working with FDA who is the one that have oversight over us Under this eua on redoing some of the kits We still consider it a priority to get the kits out to patients as soon as possible It is overridden by the priority to make sure that the test is correct The second question is about screening I guess what i would say in general is that if you look at global data the focus still of most of the cases is in china and specifically in wuhan That is why the layered approach that the US government has put in place has focused on those places at higher risk We continue to reevaluate this Screening at the airport is two different things There is routine screening for any passenger coming back with CDC works with them on it and it is screening ill people returning from overseas Thats routine Thats ongoing That is not driven by these countries separately We do have focused efforts focused on people returning from china We continue to look at those efforts to make sure the focus is appropriate given where the burden of disease is and given where transmission is We still think that as of today that is the right focus It is also important for you to realize thats not all were doing In addition to whats going on at the airports we have clinicians all over the country on the lookout for patients We have patients who are traveling getting information from us as to potential risk so that they can be part of this of the important work of identifying cases in the US we also havent this is not a turn on turn off way of approach That is were often doing community surveillance The reason weve moved quickly to stand up community surveillance is with the understanding that we want to make sure that we also have other ways outside of just travelassociated screening to look for cases in the US that is starting at a few sites but were rapidly working to make that all over the united states It will be communitylevel surveillance for patients ill with respiratory diseases so that we can also look at a community level both to make sure our screening is still focused appropriately and also with the understanding that there is still the possibility in the future that this is going to spread The final question is asymptomatic disease There is certainly more data coming out that suggests that there are people who are reportedly asymptomatic who have this virus with the swab We need to fully understand what that means in the individual patients Are those patients for example that are being caught early that may eventually go on to get disease How hard are folks looking to ask them for symptoms In other similar illnesses we have found that if you dig deeper you actually find many of these patients can recall some sort of mild symptom I dont think there is anything especially new about our posture on this We are still gathering information When it is enough information to impact how we operationalize we obviously will make sure all our partners as well as the public knows it Next question|1 Ten plane crash is the natural death count in a 60 million country Per day|0 Okay CCP shill|1 Mortgage payments have been waived plus lots of people arent required to work right now because of the lockdown but theyre still getting paid Thats why theyre upset|0 Contagion had a happy ending I watched it again recently and while they did eventually develop a vaccine the world had already been devastated|0 I had H1N1 I was delirious and couldnt get my thoughts together enough to go to the doctor or call my mom or anything I couldnt hold down water I was in my 20s and extremely healthy I eventually got better at home on my own but whoa it was rough|1 Could they do this in the US since right of assembly is clearly protected in the Constitution|1 I live 30 minutes away from Disneyland and my bf grew up down the street from it so were both passholders When I told him that Disney was closing bc of the virus he was like shit this thing is actually serious|0 Yes|1 Korea said the same thing a couple weeks ago Look at where they are nowGive it time The US is about a month behind the curve The virus didnt take a boat to get thereKeep up the vigilance stay safe and stay informed God speedEdit in the case of the Diamond Princess cruise ship it literally took a boat|1 10 quid says it was ethnic Chinese victim with French residency|0 when the news is so bad you can not let the public know|0 Fuck the WHO|0 Just add a part where they properly wash their hands before and youre good to go|1 So far the article is all OMG hes is BLACK and he appointed a Russian to be the director of a disease that is common in Russian OMG then he appointed a bunch of highly qualified WOMEN OMGEED were all gonna die Quote from the articleTedros is trying change the recruitment system to eliminate unconscious biases that make it unfavorable for women to get the positions a top Tedros adviser Senait Fisseha said in an email Until that can be accomplished she said he had made limited appointments of diverse and highly qualified women to move his vision forward Diversity is a worthy goal said Global Coalition of TB Activists CEO Blessina Kumar But it shouldnt come at the cost of effectiveness and competency You cant trade one for the other she said Merit was the first criteria for all appointments while secondary consideration was given to gender and geographical diversity WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said XDr Tedros also sought to appoint qualified people with countrylevel experience as a vital complement to the technical expertise that already exists within WHO This will help to accelerate progress at the country level In 2012 Russiarejected a 127 milliongrant from the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria stifling many of the groups on the ground On top of that the federal government cut domestic TB funding in recent years according to Gmez Nonetheless in midNovember Russiapledged 15 million toward fighting TB worldwide during a major UN TB conference in Moscow The foreign aid is a typical Putin move said Gomez This is an opportunity to reassert Russias dominance in global healthPutin addressed the gatheringand met with Tedros A month later on December 15 Tedros announced Kasaevas appointment in an internal WHO email I cant see what the upside is other than political payback Harrington said Tedros says hes just keeping a campaign promise to overhaul the agency in the wake of its highprofile failure to respond quickly to the 2014 Ebola crisis in West Africa He is the first African to run the WHO and the first director general chosen with a vote open to all member countries in May overcoming what he called a colonial mindset among backers of his British rival Tedros doctorate is in community health and he served as Ethiopias health minister for seven years winning wide praise for strides in expanding contraception fighting malaria and yes controlling TBBut it may be his experience as Ethiopias top diplomat from 2012 to 2016 that seems most apposite now During that period he kept his country in the Wests good graces and the aid money flowing despite growing concerns about the regimes human rights violations by stressing Ethiopias position as a stable strategic partner in the war on terror|1 As much as I love to hate on Mormons I have to admit every one Ive met has been ridiculously nice and helpful Its the Ned Flanders thing|1 Ive lost my passport and wallet in Japan multiple times and its always there at the store or place money untouched and people happy to give it back Ive seen passed out drunk businessmen on the sidewalks with laptop phone wallet and keys all scattered around him and nobody took anything from him This was in like Shibuya too|1 Well done Walmart|1 marital lawWere divorcing you from your freedom|1 cases in germany and italy have doubled in the past 24 hours and do not get me started on Irans situation it should be called for what it is by the WHO instead of reporting that the window of containment is at this point still narrowing People should not panic but we deserve to be informed properly or else we lose trust in systems that are supposed to protect us|1 this comment is everywhere now In X half of all ICU patients with Covid19 are under 50sources please |1 My husband and I have always kept our pantry and freezers well stocked we have been stocking up a little at a time for the last few weeks not wiping out the whole store Glad we are prepared because this is spreading For the record we buy TP in bulk anyway one case of 36 rolls is plenty for us|1 This is the biggest concern I have My wife is a hospital RN and even though my company is mandatory work from home Im afraid that no amount of social distancing will keep my family safe|1 It is EXTREMELY obvious what OP is pointing out is very very realWith a 100 absence of evidence to support this extremely obvious claim OP then provided several links all of which did not support the claim Dont make factual claims if youre not ready to support themNext|1 This is why hand washing is important|1 For those whos never been to China Pizza Hut is fucking amazing there compared to the shitpie they serve here in the states|1 Not to my knowledge And even if it does fight it Its a legitimate chargeback|0 How long can I use a R95 mask before Its best to throw it out Should a new mask be used every time I go out|1 Thats true however Macau is different Its very small and there arent many different access So from the start it was more about preventing the virus to get in and spread Government has actually done an outstanding job|1 Right on point I would have to start completely over at 30 if we go without work for several months and everything takes a significant nose dive I could lose a lot I feel those without a lot of if any stake in how the market does wants everything to be shut down because it makes the most sense when focusing on peoples health Tough decisions ahead|0 Good to know|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 When was the last time you saw a hazmat team carry a flu corpse|0 Odds are you and I will be fine as will our families etc Id like to know those odds and how you arrived at them without knowing anything about me my family living arrangement job existing heath conditions geographic location access to healthcare or the applicable rate of complications of this infection|1 Ok Doomer I still think this subreddit is breeding panic|0 Yeah it is very early days in all this so it may be too soon to know for sure That is why testing testing testing to generate data is so important We need info to prevent another round of this when we relax back into the old paradigm of living|1 Currying Chinese favour|1 Good luck removing that|1 Where did you see this That would be some good newsIf this new virus is truly less transmissible than the flu as WHO seems to be saying that will help to balance out the higher death rate some|1 I actually think the current low trend is due to the massive backlog in tests theres 3000 tests that have been administered but dont have results yet|0 Coordinated incompetence by world organizations|0 Yeah because our government is a POS not because this isnt an essential role of the federal government State responses are all over the map|1 Of course of course buddyi never risk my life I got my lover with wealth outside Chinabut i still enjoy having cozy lifestyle here after end of March when u are dying to find a TP or a Icu bed|1 The media is hounding asking good questions just shitty responses|0 And here I am being fucking ridiculed every waking moment by these redneck assholes at work for washing my hands and not wanting people to breathe down my throat Its not serious Trump says its a joke I cant prevent it so theres no point in trying MURICA|0 I didnt post this to say that the hospitals wont be crowded just to say that the US doesnt have the worst health care in the world like so many people are frequently posting|1 Yeah the mods keep deleting articles all the time over there|1 Was in a smoking area in Soho with a bunch of Italian tourists this week One was even joking about having Corona virus|1 This sub is just a circlejerk Rename it to rchinaflucirclejerk please|1 Nailed it The naysayers fail to understand that overreacting is the whole damn point|0 Oh yeah especially with HS2 going ahead|1 Had something like that last week|1 Wow rdataisbeautiful would love this I popped in my city and it is down 30 so far this week|1 Report it to the media Idk|0 People are upset he said chinese but no one cares about the naming of MERS pc culture|1 The article says its severe but does not specify if shes mechanically ventilated|0 This is a huge misconception that a lot if people seem to have that only the elderly or immunocompromised are at risk of death Thats not how disease works Yeah vulnerable populations face the most risk but that doesnt mean young and healthy individuals are impervious to harm and face no risk they just face less risk Potentially much less risk But still risk Lots of young healthy people will get sick and a few to some of those young healthy people will absolutely die Its like virtually any other disease in that people who are young and healthy have a serious advantage But even if something miniscule like 001 of young healthy people will die and 10 million people are infected10 totally healthy young people are going to die|0 Yeah 800 total every 2 weeks unless theyre paying for weekends too which brings us to 1120 which is still low That hurts a lot of people I imagine Thats not even half your paycheck for a lot of people|0 Obviously China has lots of social issues Obviously I dont agree with many many things they do But I have first hand experience here an post my honest opinion that China has done a great job of slowing the virus since the initial fumble But I am the CCP funded Chinese ShillWeve heard some terrible stories and seen some terrifying videos here in the US showing what happened in China in the past 2 months Some of them were hard to watch I stopped watching them actually And all I hoped was that some were fake or made up because it was just hard to stomach how far the CCP might have gone to curb the virus|0 Disagree We dont know enough to conclude that yet The long term health effects are still unknown|0 I will never forget how the US government is handling this situation We had weeks of information time to prepare|1 Its making me crazy|0 Why dont they do it by video link Probably needed to actually fight the virus I guess|0 Last exam in 10 days hopefully it gets canceled|1 You dont get it United means all lost families during the war will meet each others This is their last chance War generation is dying so they have to be quick before too late|0 This is just what you want to see when an outbreak has just started everyone congregating in close proximity to each other with absolutely no precautions taken Good job people Fuck|0 Ive been using this excuse for years|1 Good move by Cuomo|1 I live in Seattle where we are having an outbreak and not that spread out Still plenty of people here not taking it seriously unfortunately|0 Omg I thought these were just messages not comments I overshared to the public Ah Well I guess Im overcoming another fear of mine lol|1 God I hate that I know the cum box story|0 I agree with everything you said Companies should be wanting to do this as it keeps everyone healthier|1 Need to buy some time to save stockmarket|1 Alll if this I feel like Mugatu Am I Taking Crazy PillsHonestly I wish ppl would wake the fuck up about this As its all changing rapidly its a bit scary|0 Absolutely not theres definitely way more cases in every state|0 Job Market is hot for 20 hour or a less positions which dont receive any benefits Temp jobsUnemployment s are a snowjob to keep stupid americans thinking the economy is goodObama changed the way unemployment was calculated in 2009 httpswwwforbescomsitespeterferrara20120209dontbefooledtheobamaunemploymentrateis11185751926781httpswwwforbescomsitespeterferrara20120209dontbefooledtheobamaunemploymentrateis11185751926781 And lets not get into the falsified inflation s that they removed food rent gas and all the other important day to day cost from being calculated inx200BWere witnessing the largest separation of wealth ever in America Europe The richcorps dont give a flying fuck about their citizens They want more GDP in other countries to create more consumers so they can sell more crap to more people|0 How is it possible then that if as this article states Hong Kong had more than a dozen travelers in early January with pnemonia and yet today they have only 129 cases Never had an increase either You would think that if a dozen people traveled from China to Hong Kong before they knew it was Corona virus HK would have had some kind of spreadoutbreak Article says Singapore had a case in early January too and this is before they knew just what they were dealing with Or so they say What am I missing|0 Honestly shes right tho About 5 seems to be in need of actual care The rest just needs to rest it out|1 OK sure but then today we would know about them But these countries still did not report any death from the virus I live here It would be reported if it would be true Just in the past days they reported that this year in the normal influenza we had 2000 more mortal cases than the average And on the internet people and blogs and news sites would also mention this If the police state China does not hide its victims number why would Begium Irland Sweden or Hungary and Albania do so Please You are right technically I did think about it too But no|1 Currently yes Soon no|1 and honestly this issue should not be politicized this should be unification against a threat honest talk|1 I seriously doubt so with Biden positioned to the the Democratic candidate|0 New York City announced it would close public schools and many cities around the country ordered bars and restaurants closed with some even issuing curfews to encourage social distancing Meantime brickandmortar retailers began shutting down stores|1 Right but they are making the same false assumption that you are which is that almost all serious cases are going to the hospital which we know isnt true since 60 of the bodies are being recovered from peoples homes|0 ButI think it would be much wiser to listen to Dr Fauci than a couple random Facebook posts|1 Thats the Wuhan sympathy program|1 The drug was approved by the WHO in 2015 I dont know if it is available in different parts of the worldEdit spelling|1 What does this mean Like they arent performing a particular kind of test or they arent performing any at all|1 I live in NYC and I see the storm clouds rolling in Everything so far seems fairly normal and it just seems weird Maybe Im spending too much time looking at coronavirus maps and on YouTube but shit is going to hit the fan big time here I give it another 2 weeks I may not have my business anymore by the end of the month and it just seems so absurd its like it hasnt sunk in|1 Correct Ive friends with businessesfactories over there and they are all closed till at least 28 February|1 Quietly stock up Weve been pretty quiet too Started prepping 8years ago Friends Family all talked shit Wasnt crazy about it Bought a few cases of rice beans and powder milk in the 10 cans Last store 2530yrs Its good to be self reliant Listen to yourself|1 Ah yes This one data point completely debunks it Not that I believe that theory|1 The prediction for Feb 9 is 09022020 38675 cases 808 fatalitiesAccording to this httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus there are 37553 cases and 813 fatalities Thats a error of 29 I dont see that being too far off to be considered very wrong|0 My brother is a Dr in my state Michigan Had 2 patients with symptoms and referred them for coronavirus testing both with possible exposure Health department refused testing because they did not meet all criteria yet they didnt tell him what criteria was not met So he gave meds and told the patients to self quarantine This seems to be happening a lot here Doctors refer for testing but get told no by the health department due to criteria|0 all the governments are lying to us insert the girl taking one paper from google meme|0 Dont forget the human interest pieces of how a fireman saved a cat and a kid didnt commit suicide because she got her kitty back Or the constant stories of troops returning to surprise family members Its a media induced masturbation of the military industrial complex|1 Great so lets invent entire US industries overnight China is the factory of planet earth Itll take fifty years to change that|1 Those two papers were mostly based on the events in China The American Hospital Association estimates I have no idea where they got their data from That slide was leaked from an internal briefing and has since been reported on by numerous credible nontabloid news sourcesThe biggest problem with this virus is of course that in known cases which may comprise 5 to 10 of all infections 20 can develop severe pneumonia 1 in 5 of known cases can get any of the complications Ive listed in the OP The majority of patients coding in the ICU arent dying of lung trouble though strangely enough Theyre dying of cardiomyopathy Theyre going into cardiac arrest after the virus attacks and kills their heart muscle tissue The breakdown of the heart muscle into the bloodstream causes myoglobinemia which causes acute kidney injury in addition to the hypoxemia the low blood O2 and the myoglobinemia both attack the kidneys The liver is also affected to a mild degreeCOVID19 victims get massive bacterial coinfections and terrible lung inflammation and fibrosis of the lungs The virus can also attack the cerebrovascular system and the medulla of the brain stem causing collapse seizures and abnormal posturing they collapse to the ground and their legs go straight and rigid like a drowning victimItaly is at the point right now about 6 weeks after the point of introduction of the virus where approximately 360 people are dying per dayhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusFOScommentsfjp817italyisregistering1deathtothecoronavirusMy estimates are that by 8 weeks into the outbreak in Wuhan at least 1200 people were dying per day of COVID19 The CCP did not count them as COVID19 deaths only as unknown pneumonia That way they could sidestep adding them to the COVID19 tally Before China instituted a full lockdown of Wuhan and forbade anyone from going out I estimate that 50000 people had died of COVID19 in that one city alone I know that sounds alarmist but to really understand what happened there you need to see it for yourselfhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOOjIbIhquA4httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvbw0S7mr0QsMhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvfRhxrWKgebAhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvhj2dytJKS4whttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKXKW6BvmGE|0 The company I used to work for pulled that shit too During my interview I was told I had paid PTO and paid sick days It wasnt until after I got hired that they clarified sick days came out of my PTO I now work in a state that mandates that I get 5 days of paid sick days per year in addition to my PTO I had spinal fusion surgery last year and was supposed to take 6 weeks off per my surgeon but I was back after 2 weeks because I ran out of sick leave and PTO|0 Yes It might be hard for you to understand but some news sources are more reliable than others The media bias charthttpswwwadfontesmediacomwpcontentuploads201912MediaBiasChart51Dec2019EdLicensedscaledjpgv402f03a963ba might help but you likely think everything is a conspiracy since your favorite news source isnt front and center Unless you stick solely to AP for your news|1 India and indonesia probably already have full on outbreak its just a matter of when it comes outNot accussing them of hiding it They are probably unable to even detect it at this stage|0 Can you give some examples Its a good point and Id like to have specifics to help get it across to others|1 And statistics are bullshit if not controlledIll give you 50 elderly over 90yo with diabetes and a bunch of other problems You think the CFR will stay the sameStatistics to be meaningful need the same parametersFor example in Wuhan people get care at the very early signs of the infection Get antibiotics to avoid and secondary infections etc this helps save livesIf you wait until the virus advances so much that you have a severe pneumonia and heart failures Theres no saving youRemember We dont have any immunity against the virus It wont heal itself|0 Problem avoidance devolving to crisis management The management style of choice for too many|0 Good bot|1 I cant tell if this is sarcasm but in the case its not This is a novel virus which will have unknown effects on different individuals and mutations Might cause it to go from minor flu to something far deadlier|0 Israel did allow the plane to land unlike RussiaIsrael did not allow the Chinese to enter Israel the Germans never intended to get off the plane Only to refuelRacism always relies on lies and preying on the stupid You post is a nice showcase of that|0 Nice to see that someone actually gets it|1 Normally you only get a new Pope when the old one dies but this time round the last Pope actually retired I think hes the first to do it in like 600 years ostensibly because of the paedo priest scandal|0 What if he licks or sucks them gently yet passionately|1 I am not seeing that in the ilinet datahttpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyFlu typically peaks in December and January You can get a peak in late November and another peak in January like we did this year When I am saying double peak I mean instead of flu rates continuing to decrease from 7 down to 5 like they have the past two weeks we would see a bounce in March Normally you dont see flu season peaking in March|0 Hey man dont disparage hillbillies Theyre some of the nicest people Ive met Maybe you mean techies|1 Theres no shortages We exist in a rich and resource abundant economy Scarcity is artificial|1 Yeah why do you think upper middle class and up dont want universal healthcare You literally listed the reason in your second paragraph They dont want to be left with shittier hospitals longer wait times and no other choice when paying more for the system They are the ones that will be paying Why would anyone want to pay more for a lower quality system Sure it might be a step up for you bc u guys have shitty insurance anyways u just pay less than before But quality isnt going up for anyoneYou have to wait ten months to see a specialist in Sweden and they can still deny you treatment|0 Ugh being in the same timeline as UK does not make me feel better We are taking it so much more seriously than they are and not doing any much better in results |1 Yep BVMs|1 When I hear things like the possibility of a half million people in New York dying from this its really scary Not knowing whether it will hit you specifically is awful|0 Aww that is heartwarming Have my upvote Also if you come across anything like this uplifting post could you also share it with rCoronavirusSupport We are trying to consolidate all the good news|1 Yeah that could be a factor However if you have a life threatening illness you probably know not to lie to your healthcare staff unless you are hiding something very shameful I dont think chinese people really care if you smoke or not|0 If This is the key term here If we had the worst case of SARS pandemic or some other pandemic it would have been even worse But did we|0 Yea like laundry|1 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Do you really want people to be unable to wash themselvesYes he does This is unironically what conservatives want too because in their minds if you cant pay for the basic things needed to survive thats your fault and you deserve to actually suffer and whatever happens to you is also deserved because your life is worthless Thats why they have such a boner for charities over tax funded programs because they get to lord over the scum to make themselves feel righteous and good for being so kind|1 Visiting multiple stores Thats a good way to get infectedThere will be a minority of people who will do this but in general this will put the breaks on panic buying Because we are lazy|0 Welcome to America where people get shot in toad rage everydayEdit I meant road but I also like toad so|1 Cue liberal and left wing circle jerk this sub has become|0 Big city cop here My department has been given exactly ZERO guidance on this issue No masks We have only been told to wash our hands and dont touch our face|0 Where there are poor or disadvantage people you will see more of it|0 So punish whomever lied about it|0 A bit condescending but major tech firms have work from home options Major tech firms have already told people to stop going to offices unless critical|0 I am sorry I know it can all feel like too much First I must ask are your typical providers for medication or therapy or both able to still offer you some consultation and care at this time Its so important to keep on your medication regimen or your therapy routine And most providers I know are finding all kinds of ways to still provide care even when the physical proximity of the office is gone But also in this case it seems to be about setting appropriate boundaries making sure you are not getting information overload with the media and also maybe crossing the line from social support of friends and family to fueling the flames or having them fuel the flames What can be stabilizing for you right now Can you set some sort of routine and also have some oases during the day when you get a break from the things that are too much It also sounds like you are internalizing so much placing blame on yourself in ways that sound excruciating When you do that try to recognize it as a distorted lens Its a very common one in folks that struggle with their mood we call that an internal attribution where everything bad is because of me Try to step outside of that and catch yourself in it when it happens Recognize that it is just your anxiety and mood disruption talking It is not reality And you dont have to fight it but you can acknowledge it label it and let it pass|1 Experts sighWeve only been saying that here for a month I very rarely hate being right but this is one of those times|1 Did you literally copy and paste something directly from your cults official web site With all of the recent DMCA lawsuits the JWs have been throwing against the wall Im interested in knowing how you think this is a good idea|1 My mother is a GP in Calgary and my step mother is a Nurse practitioner in Calgaryno my dad isnt a doctor that had an affair with a nurse lol I get that question all the timeThey are both more concerned about their families and are both selfless and brave I think majority of people who get into healthcare have that xfactor|1 not a good sign|0 Not quite allLook 12 posts above your post and then look 12 posts below your postOne or more of those posters will be dead when this is all over |0 It was days back so no If you search it youll find it maybe|0 Our ICUs are especially unprepared considering they operate at 7090 capacity at bestEven an outbreak with 1 of US population infected 5 of whom go critical will completely totally overrun our ICUs Theres only a handful of ventilators in each ICUOnce that happens mortality will increase in both Coronavirus and noncoronavirus patients who require intensive careDespite this evident risk its business as usual|0 SO at this point USA has only tested 441 peopleIn 2 weeks from now with CDCFDA modifying test kits that should go up to tens of thousandsThen we will really see whats going on here Cant be good|0 We all know the real goal is keeping the stock market afloat No genuine care about the people|1 Wtf he does|0 Should there be shareholder lawsuits against the boards of companies who overconcentrated business in China The risk should have been obvious even to a secondyear business student|0 Your email got lost among the thousands of concerned Karens trying to sell their essential oils or prayer sessions|0 Pretty sure you have the right to free speech in this country|1 The news and scientific papers over the last month are all I needed to convince me I have avoided the videos as I felt it would be too easy to get a skewed unverified view that might lead me to panic and overreaction Sounds like we arrived at the same place This has been heading in the same bad direction for a month with no sign of it going differently So Sensible precautions are worth it|0 My guess is that mortality will be higher outside of China Smoking seems to be protective against serious cases since smoking upregulates ACE2 receptors And the Chinese have been heavily recommending TCM which was shown to work during the SARS epidemic In the USA we have neither of those factors going for us|0 Can you point me to the 2 because in the article it states the mortality rate ranges somewhere between 07 to 4 with the 1918 Spanish flu being at 2 mortality which they guessed by saying 17 of the worlds population died from it and most of the world were infectedMortality rate is directly linked to reported infection rate which is likely significantly underreported especially where the outbreak began The mortality rate has become less and less at each subsequent outbreak as infection rate becomes accuratewwwlivesciencecomampnewcoronaviruscomparewithfluhtml|0 Nice If I had to guess Id say youre doing a lot more than most|1 So shes a 50 year old waitress dont use that as a benchmark of her stupidity There are plenty of smart ones they prefer being called servers though Ive met way more dumb as a rock office workers that remind me of teenagers than restaurant staff|0 I agree with you but this has been going on for ages I havent seen any evidence that weve suddenly cut back on testing so youd expect our numbers to have a consistent trend based on consistently insufficient testing|0 He may rest in peace He was 81 years old|1 My daughter is supposed to be off on a 3 day school trip next week Really conflicted about letting her go or not School is happy to continue but wonder if they like you are being given little choice|1 I think someone is pulling your leg Australia definitely has school buses Maybe not everywhere|1 Thank you Jack Ma|1 We need work to get done We dont need wageserf subordination under which people are badly compensated for their work and have no cushion in event of disaster We dont need to live in a system where people get punished for being sickYes obviously we need to work We dont need to work in a stupid unproductive way that serves to keep the upper class in charge but does very little for the general welfare of the people|0 They disembarked 2 days ago so Id imagine its pretty early to be symptomatic andor trigger a positive test result|1 You doing OK Got supplies|1 Utter disgrace they are responsible for the virus spreading|0 Chemical gas causes seizure and blocks neurotransmitters doesnt do anything to lungs|0 Maybe not anymore but outside of Beijing Chinese people have the absolutely most disgusting hygiene habits anywhere in the world|0 How widespread is testing tracking tracing and quarantine of infected in NY|0 best wishes to the both of you the only thing we can do at this point is try to remain healthy and calmim in the same boat as you my mom has an autoimmune disease and if she gets corona shes toast|1 Huh What are you talking about Ontario alone has closed all their public schools after March break|0 Thats just what the CDC told Americans because there is a massive shortage of masks They want medical personnel to get whatever masks are available not Joe Shmoe whose just sitting in his house They obviously work If they didnt why do doctors and nurses wear them|0 Nothingso long as that does not make me pay more taxes thats not my issue|1 Not in extreme cases Pneumonia is the natural outcome of the disease unless you have a strong immune system|1 I hope StarLink allows anyone everywhere to have free and uncensored access to the internet someday|1 Hes definitely taking it seriously going in front of a studio audience and hugging the host What a hypocrite|1 Thanks for sharing However its important to note its ranked based on a few criteria The area that pulled Singapores score down was its commitment to improving national capacity financing and adherence to norms For this it was placed in the bottom half of countries at number 101It scored best for its ability to rapidly respond to and mitigate the spread of an epidemic standing 11th in the worldSingapore scored maximum marks for biosafety data integration linking health and security authorities risk communication trade and travel restrictions and infrastructure|1 Sorry I just meant outside of China|0 Were the China entire country numbers just added In the number of 3|1 Lettuce and spinach can be grown in shallow nursery flats and can be harvested surprisingly quickly Carrots planted now can be harvested in 70 days but you can start eating them sooner These can be planted now Oh and radishes are super fast growing in early spring but they are too gross for meBush hybrid zucchini can be grown in a 5 gallon bucket once warmer weather comesThese are my top choices because loss of regular vegetables can take much too long to produce Also early producing tomatoes such as 4th of July and Early Girl are great for early summer harvest|1 I have an extensive math background but dont know shit about economics Whats rigor like in econ Are you guys actually invoking axioms and proving theorems Or is it more experimental like building models and assessing assumptions On that note what math is actually used in economic theory vs applications|1 Risky post I downvote that entire idea|0 I wasnt used to wearing a mask too before this But I think about it this way when youre wearing mask youre protecting yourself and others if youre infected with asymptomatic Theres nothing wrong with that|0 Agreed Get ahead of this trainwreck of a supervisor|1 Theyre Being quarantine not monitored which they would be in their house if they were which would give them freedom to walk around|1 Youre Just wrong|0 Proves how fucked we are here in America|0 I identify as a fruit fly please clarify that Lol|1 Revenue isnt a useful figure for figuring out how much this hits the bottom lineNet income last year was 21 billion If this year is similar then 350 million is about 17 of their annual profit|1 Exactly I graduated college that year very similar boat Things got better eventually Not everyone can look this sort of thing in the face and keep their heads and I do feel bad for them|0 Ask the insurance companies which they would prefer to pay for1 3 weeks of respiratory intensive care with ventilator about 20000002 1 bottle of cloroquine or hydroxycloroquine about 20I suspect any needed approval will happen just as soon as there is a sufficient volume of screaming at the politicians who control the FDA|1 Yes I knew the governments are lying|0 This is where are health system will be challenged|0 Wtf Well if they are travelling atm they cant be the sharpest pencils in the box|0 I like when people use with all due respect when they really mean youre a pompous ass|1 I go through 1 every two weeks but I guess I have healthy poos|1 Except that its not the flu as 1 The flu is a different virus influenzavirus and 2 The flu does not cause pneumonia in 30 of confirmed casesThe rest of your points are valid though but calling this the flu is enormously disinformative imo|1 but i mean that spread will likely stay isolated and not move to other places quickly Like yes a lot of people might get it but it will be stuck in a locality rather than exploding all over the country|1 Glad we heard from you|1 As uliteradesign indicated in their comment There is no means available to prove whether any country is truthful in the numbers reported When removing those thought to be providing best available at any point in time and errors made in reporting with humans involved the possibility for mistakes is a factor there are countries lacking the infrastructure needed to compile the information As for China as stated before sincerely doubt they have been factually accurate in anything reported since WWII Though the time frame differs this also applies to and any other nations governed through ideological dictatorship|1 If shes been there since Feb 25 theres a good chance that she picked it up en route or in the Dominican Possible though that it means community spread somewhere here hope someone is at least investigating|1 Theres no such thing as a free market All markets are regulated to some degree for the protection of the society in which they operate The sellers took a risk and lost|0 I dont mean to say that it would be the end of America or human civilization but it would absolutely be radically transformative If we see that kind of mass death and strain on the system then the postcoronavirus world isnt going to look like the precoronavirus world|0 That is not an argument|1 If EVERYONE was issued one or more surgical masks and legally required to wear one when outside the home this would drastically reduce the ability for it to spread if not stop it completely|1 Im not scared Im really not haha I know its happening all around the world I know its contagious and I know a very very very very small number of people have died Butso what Its not worth worrying about Just get on with it Whenif I get it the Ill just get better Sorted|0 1 Your use of caps proves that you are a shill2 I have seen zero info that the government is going to give money to those groups3 Your point on that has literally nothing to do with the PetroDollar do you even know what that is4 The US will never lose its reserve currency status becausea No other country has enough money in circulation to competeb Other countries do not trust each other to not manipulate their currency which would negatively effect the reserve pricing and exchangeCountries have tried and failed to make an alternative Mainly because the amount of currency they would need to put into circulation would cause massive inflation which destabilizes their economy and others were rejected because their governments manipulate their currency too much which no one else would buy into itSoyeah I am guessing you have zero clue as to what you are talking about|0 The cruiseship is probably closer to an apartment building than to a prisonConservative but not irresponsibleTheres not a lower spread rate I can calculate from the known datasetsThe ship was rapidly quarantined and and every person accounted for and immediately informed about the situation before getting the best possible medical attention available from Japan So much about the cruiseship confounds toward optimistic outcomes that it very much is the best place to ground conservative estimatesOther ways to calculate the spread of this disease give between 1 in 3 and 3 in 4 catching the illness for the same kind of analysis type So it is highly conservative in the broader perspective I am aware of at this time It really is the best place to center the analysis for conservative optimistism It really is the best case scenario dataset for us to look at Everything about the Diamond Princess is known so it is rock solid data If you can present something solid to calculate from that is more Optimistic for the spread into a population ill take a deep look at it But I really trust the Diamond Princess as a lower bound I am strongly opposed to not taking the numbers based on it entirely seriously There are so many confounding factors that throw the upper bound way higher that I find it impossible to believe there is something more optimistic that isnt irrational and intentionally deflecting the truth for Psychological comfort|1 Ouch Serious Chernobyl HBO vibes from this one|0 Why would the federal government be the only entity that can increase ventilator production You can could buy them privately if you want|1 My parents are not quite that old more like 60 Im still concerned|1 So the context that is missing which they had during the press conference is that they are using predictive modeling for pandemics to come up with this When you have two independent seperate parts of the population with no apparent points of contact with eachother or known infected or travel history get infected you should assume that 1 of your population is infected He does mean 1 of Ohioans|0 They said the CDCs public statement was that it was to quell fears about the virus When I asked for a source they said Google it I asked where they heard it and they said something to the effect of why are you getting such a fucking hardon for sources and fact checking Google it And then when they were downvoted they deleted their comments|0 But we deal in reductionism and extremes because thats what a significant chunk of our communication platforms are built to aidThis is such a superb line I might use that later when discussing certain topics politics for one|1 Yep Kaiser in Portland wont order a test unless youre hospitalizedLapcorp wont do a test unless it comes from a medical facility Even if youre willing to pay cash out of pocket|1 Im on Vancouver Island and Ive been slowly preparing gathering stock since the end of January doing my last grocery pick up today Nobody I know is taking it seriously Im 100 certain we have community spread at this time I just cancelled attending some training in downtown Victoria next week I wish I could have stayed home from work this week This whole experience is like watching a slow motion trainwreck|1 Just checked Trumps Twitter its all him running for reelection and a retweet mixed in from Mike Pence and one tweet saying we are doing a good job on Coronavirus This man is about to oversee the greatest government screwup in a national emergency we have ever seenOhh boy is the USA gonna get hit hard by this incompetence|0 Um no Depends on what mask you get The shitty ones they give away at the hospital are for not spreading sickness The ones you buy onlinestores are to protect both ways They have to have a filter in them Drs wear special masks like that during outbreaks Also the crappy ones still help a bit but they are not even close to as good of protection as the medical grade ones that are made to keep you from illness or from spreading If those masks didnt work Drs wouldnt waste their time wearing them like they are now that they know they have a very contagious virus spreading|1 Its way more risky to use an unapproved medicine in healthy people than in sick people|0 Okdo other viruses do stuff like this and Im not aware This seems more and more like a bioweapon intentionally or unintentionally released|1 Thanks|1 Awesome|1 Well you know how we Italians feel about our famiglia|1 I think the problem with flu is that for most people they think of something essentially synonymous with routine mild illness just above the common coldI see That might indeed be why its just a flu rings wrong in many peoples minds|0 Great idea What are some of the new procedures|1 Crazy healthy peopleway smarter than cool sick people|1 Its mutations in the genome sequenceLets say person A has a certain mutation and infects a few people those people share that common mutation and so forth|1 Fuck that the need to receive the same care as those on Medicare and Medicaid|0 Thanks|1 Thats how Contagion started|0 Youre actually talking about fake news The organ stuff is from FLG which is funded by our government Third parties cant collaborate their claimsAn interesting thing to examine is the connection between FLG and the Trump administration|1 Nice try Netflix|1 Korea tested 250k people with symptoms and 96 tested negative How is that not a waste of resources|0 this is about humanityNo this is about the western world at least at the moment Sadly we dont give a 11000th of a shit about stuff that is killing people in the undeveloped countries|0 and the virologist who made that Youtube video totally walked it back a day later and removed the video lot of peer pressure no doubt|0 That is comedic genius as a read through|1 I live in md and its the same here as week I also work retail Victoria secret surprisingly we were really busy at my store which was funny to me because those same assholes shopping was probably the same ones that cleared the entire Walmart of toilet paper|1 I mean 1 of a city needing ICU care is still insane Thats still an unmanageable number|1 lol|1 Picked up a gift card after checking it through I gave it to the teller and thanked her You can see she had a rough weekend|1 Good to see more of my kind here Power la abang We next few weeks confirm will have more superclusters by then Gg|1 Was told that 3 may have it in michigan but theyre not sure|0 If you are young and healthy you will almost definitely 999 be fine even if you contract it If you can work from home do so If you cannot take any precautions you can to reduce your facetoface interaction with othersIt will be ok This is not the end of the world|1 is today the day they will start to update the locations on a 24hr behind scheduleso will they tell us where yesterdays were I got a bit confused and didnt keep up with the changes around locations reveals after the once a week oh no it isnt palava|0 In the near future supermarket personel are fighting on the frontline aswell and deserveneed protection even at high cost|0 You have to be specific to play random rule it doesnt really matter|1 This isnt good news flairthe problem is so bad that businesses and life is further veering away from normalcy|0 This is not a loaded question genuinely curious to know the answer but why is there not a federal law in USA which guaranties sick payI cant speak for everyone in the EU country I live in but of those who I have spoken to about this we all find it perplexing that this social safety net does not existAgain not a loaded question not a political stab just want to understand the views and thoughts on this|1 Reddit Its nothing to worry aboutAlso Reddit Were all going to die|0 My dental practice as well |1 Forreal But we know the state gov aint gonna do shit until things like this happen|1 my work gives us laptops so we could all easily work from home and do meetings via videocall and nothing would be different|1 CDC is the new FEMA I swear they are trying to get the disease to spread|0 Obligatory Not my opinion but an obersvation through eavesdropping and casual conversationMost people my age late 20s that I know are going with the mantra of Well at least itll open up jobsThats without accounting for the amount of cynicism and antiageism is high in late20 year olds and early 30 year olds Ive overheard even pouring out of high schoolers I would say its unfounded since Id rather not have my parents or inlaws die on me but frankly its been building for years with the let them eat cake attitude of 50 persons toward Millennials and Gen ZAs far as anyone under Id say 35 years old who doesnt have anyone they particularly care about in the high mortality range is concerned this is at best a blessing for them financially and at worst a monkeys paw wish come true|1 Here is the problem with that logic If the death rate was lower than what is being reported dont you think the Chinese govt would be reporting that statistic instead The govt and state owned media has every possible incentive to make this epidemic appear as benign as possible|0 No because I never disagreed with you in the first place was just making a nuanced pointI understand its much worse than the flu that was part of my original comment|0 100 agree on racism towards countries on reddit due to coronavirus However lets be real not even Irans people trust Iran government with anything They are worse to their people and more focused on apperences than China is by far|1 Markets dont always bounce back If youd bought Japanese stocks in 1989 youd still be down more than 50 percent Im not a financial adviser I dont know anything about your situation or what you should do It might be a good time to hold It might not be No one can predict the future But its not true that the market always comes back|1 Almost definitely a secondary virus which killed him in this case|0 not if bernie wins as a European I wish Americans best of luck |1 The NBA just suspended its season over coroanvirus too This is unreal|0 Thats 45000 tests per day unless the poster below is to be believed that 50 tests can be run on one kit So weve just about reached proportionality with Koreas 10000 tests per day based on kits available However if FactCheckhttpswwwfactcheckorg202003thefactsoncoronavirustesting is to be believed each kit can test 700800 specimens So roughly 250 people Thats 250000 tests available per day nationwide|1 Adequate is being close to wearing a hazmat suit and being sprayed down with something to kill the virus before you remove it If you have huge concentrations of the virus being dumped on you from patients just a mask and goggles wont keep you safe Imagine having patients coughing mucus into your hair all day and then you casually hop into the shower later You rinse that shit right into your face Theres a decent chance thatll give you a sufficient viral load to infect youIf you have bad PPE shave your fucking heads and lather povidone iodine surgical scrub on your scalp and face as part of your decontamination when youre taking off your protection It doesnt burn that bad if it gets in your eyes and it wont blind you|0 Everythings better than 45 |1 For me it sounds like magic Yeah reading it you see that it all makes sense but still blows your mind|1 literally one of the only benefits that is NEVER TAXEDSHHHHHH|1 Ya I called this to my listspeople back at the end of January They all thought I was crazy then This is the week I was deading but here we are|0 you make a good point and I feel bad for being ignorant about that|0 Speaking of climate change I saw a meme that said climate change needs to hire coronavirus publicist Got a good laugh out of that|1 I have not seen any mandatory containment measures which means theyre doing the exact same thing we are Canada is also still letting in flights from all over which was more the heart of the initial commentthread Canada is as screwed as we are|0 Its a pretty considerable amountAt that rate if humanity becomes extinct the planets carbon reduction will make humanity safe from climate extinction facepalm Weve been doing it all wrong with trying to live|1 Theyre only effective if done by a large amount of ppl A handful of ppl wearing masks in a crowd of hundredsthousands is virtually pointless|1 I wasnt talking about you I didnt even notice your username until now Considering it was off topic I wasnt going to write a novel to make sure I mention every single nuance I figured people could fill in gaps themselves but I guess not|1 Im not saying to halt all production but workers deserve the right to determine what is fair and what is safe for them period|1 But in the AMA some doctor just said the flu is worse because its killed more people s|0 Sorry I lost it at MOTOR and pestle lolespecially the part where you left the word there and crossed it out lol|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Well thats all I neededIts cowboy time yall|1 The US is already planning to make it free Apparently Everything is up in the air|1 Here we did our shop in February and have prepared thanks to this subThis i joined at 4k Mark|1 Yeah mate I dont know enough about current situations with external influence wether China is involved with them or not but even then China would be focusing more on their own nation like I said cause its a mostly internal affair the govt will deal with it themselves not do anything maybe making options open to a change in the structure of the country|1 The UK government has become lazy for too long they have been taking rules and direction from the EU Blaming the EU when things go wrong and are unable to effectively govern unable to make decisions everything goes to courts and takes too longIts hopeless I predict in two weeks the NHS hospitals full and struggling|0 Can you stop being offended by little things that arent supposed to be offensive|0 Think about it though remaining calm during something scary is status quo for them If the medicial community started to freak out too there would be even more mass panic|0 Wow I am so hungry now Its so interesting to see how things are being done from an insider Thanks for sharing|1 Start a petition to see if the trip can be rescheduled in light of Coronavirus It may not get you anywhere but at least its going to raise awareness to the parents and the rest of the school that these people are potentially putting everybody at risk not just themselves I mean its not like we havent seen this played out time and time again now|0 That quote is what the TSA agent CLAIMS the woman said The woman denies saying that|0 HKU is providing both free test kits and the formula Countries that have received the test kits have already found new cases with the kits receivedHeres a news from Cambodia httpswwwkhmertimeskhcom50701257cambodiaamong40usinghkuquickcovid19testingtechnology|1 Thank you for posting this any idea how one would wear a mask when there are almost none available|1 In Montral Concordia has cancelled classes at least until MondayLaSalle College is closed and classes will move online next week Collge JeandeBrbeuf has moved their classes online|0 Persian music stops|0 This is such a bad idea actively avoiding high risk people is easy to type out on a keyboard but nearly impossible to execute perfectly Also you havent considered the fact that people can become reinfected You dont get immunity once you recover|1 Its worse than SARS SARS couldnt spread asymptomaticaly This is new for all of us|0 Not every corona virus patient needs an icu bed but they all need negative pressure rooms And those are harder to come by than icu beds|0 It means may the gods protect us Still delicious|1 Get me off the Petri dishThere are ethical problems with treating this as a learning opportunity|1 This might help httpswwwcnncom20200315usscholasticcoronavirusstudentstrndindexhtml|1 My company quarantined me and my daughter who both work for their company to work from home ufn They have given us both workstations to set up 2 remote offices We answer medical and emergency calls in all forms in our local area Even some that are for contact tracing potential exposure|0 People should organize and go burn down that companys headquarters to send a very clear message|1 False negative error rate is reported to be 50|0 Nice Im going to steal it and put it up on rshowerthoughts|0 She was awesome He was squirming in his seat|1 Nah Medicaid doesnt exist in the US People just die on the streets didnt you know|0 Just dont miss the callback|1 He should pay his taxes instead well buy tests with the money thanks|1 The health care system i heard is so shit that peo0le cant Afford it|0 Im sorry to hear that I too have elderly family members that are vulnerable and it is scary to think of them becoming infected I would also point out though that the flu is as big a risk to these people as covid19 and perhaps even more so since the flu is already wide spread throughout the world The best we can do it practice proper sanitation when out in public and bolster the immune system with vitamins|0 Retail stores dont sell medical grade N95 which is what I took from the post N100 would be better in this situation|1 Yet their death rate is falling See Daily New Deaths in China on this page httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrychina|0 Itll come with time Im just now realizing that I cant maintain the hyperawareness and anxiety that I had when I first found out about this and stocked up starting about a week ago Now that Ive done all that I can Im trying to calm down to weather this storm|1 Its good to be a little worried Keep yourself informed and use common sense Dont panic though excess fear and worry will not do anyone goodKeep your head calm but stay on your toes We will get through this even if it will be hard|0 I mostly lurk and read in here but I wanted to say thank you for this It tends to get old really fast when someone is trying to be funny every comment when they arent that funny at all Especially for such a serious topic|1 If you really want to thank them fight for them to earn a living wage|1 We dont have enough TOCs to keep them open through the current quarantine guidelines Some districts are out on spring break already and staff went on vacation stupid and now theyll have to quarantine 14 days when they get back There flat out wont be enough staff to reopen|0 Its real But a its a goddam bio weapon Only naive people cant fathom itEdit downvote away Its only showing your naivety|0 They do such amazing work These have been my main goto virus experts for over a decade|1 Yes that is the same paper I read You need to read it more carefully as it does not say what you think it does They found renal abnormalities in 100 of the patients in whom they detected elevated creatinine and BUN This was only 27 patients of the 60 cases they checked and note that 28 half were severe The authors inexplicably do not state whether it was these severe cases that had the kidney abnormalities At any rate the kidney issues appear in a subset elevated serum kidney markers of a subset hospitalized severe cases of patients Furthermore dehydration inflammation immune response diabetes a known risk factor for severe cases which the author also inexplicably ignores and even certain medications can impair the kidneys as well This paper is an interesting observation but is a far cry from 100 of covid patients get kidney damage|0 Yup Swine flu and mad cow disease America cant banned that it would hurt industry that spent millions lobbying dollars|0 Can we all do this Its the only to stop the spread|0 Noted Ill edit that section better maybe take out the whole damn back of envelope calculation Believe me that it has been bothering me too|0 Cancel the Olympics|0 Edit3172020 LVAC closed today Basically we are seeing closures of just about everything I am very happy to see this because people are not heeding the warnings otherwise Now the concern is we dont let it spread from the restaurants choosing to say open The grocery stores that MUST stay open for obvious reasons where people are piling into lines without maybe even a foot between one another The congregations of people where food is being given for those in need of it A huge responsibility rests in the hands of the people handling the foods that are going to be feeding ALL of our communities in the coming months I think that is a big factor First week of March I think I read we had less than 1000 tests The population of Las Vegas in 2019 was 2621000 a 315 increase from 2018Macrotrends cities populationLas Vegas Population 19502020 MacroTrends Its a pretty small area weve all packed ourselves into as well So with people that have been traveling here from basically all the known infected areas I would be very surprised if it doesnt spread here But I hope that we get lucky I also think since our economy is largely based on tourism it reflects in what they share publicly I would have assumed closing of massive casinos on the strip would open peoples eyes but just now when I was out bars still filled Restaurants still filled If you leave the house it very much appears people dont care much about whats going on carrying on as usual Only thing out of the ordinary is how my Sams club pick up order of 19 items for my grandparents not listed as sold out mostly were and the order didnt even appear till I had them look it up I assume their servers are so overwhelmed they simply arent working correctly People are taking it out on the poor employees Personally I am deeply saddened by how people are treating this more so one another Very arrogant as if Invincible it seems people who are trying to raise awareness are targeted as trying to install panic for merely trying to help people understand the gravity of the situation People comparing it to the seasonal flu the H1N1 outbreak are simply not doing enough due diligence Peoples complacency is going to spread this thing even with the schools casinos closed Maybe when 10000 confirmed cases in the next two weeks the gyms will close and restaurants but till then it looks like nonstop jokes and memes from everyone out here who doesnt realize shortly there friends family and people in all walks of life are going to be fighting for survival Not only against the virus but the uptick of violent crime from the desperation that springs forth from layoffsPanic is OBVIOUSLY NEVER the way Idk how it is in other places but out here the people who started preparing early say 710 days ago those people are being treated like idiots for panicking when what they did is what is now being advised to do too difficult to do because the stores didnt put limits on items we all are seeking soon enough Its a real shit show out here Another thing that is absolutely infuriating me is the jokes being made online by people about how oh you are going and stocking up for months thats nice Ill be taking all that stuff because I have ammunition Or because they say like Can you fight Thanks for doing my shopping for me What the hell is that level of ignorance disrespect for your fellow human beings|0 This all feels like fucking bullshit Im starting to not believe this it feels like its all to perfectly staged for the Victory Lap Call me crazy but|1 Im really not sure what China could have done early on that would have so deterministically stopped this thing in its tracks Seems like they did everything right as soon as possible with some bureaucratic fuck ups that certainly could be considered sinister But hey no one is perfect so I dont see the point of playing the blame game and certainly dont understand making the whole country answer to the sins of a fewSeriously when the US fucks up everyone blames Trump But when China fucks up the whole country is on the hook for some reason Come on now And Americans put Trump into office No one voted for Xi|0 Yes|1 36 roentgen Not great not terrible|0 Probably quietly started using there own tests like New York and Hawaii|1 Well since I got them a few weeks ago when people werent decontamination kit panic buying it was less then 20 and an old shoeboxWhat you want to look for is UVC lights A huge problem is that theres a lot of snake oil lights or low quality that burn out fastA huge safety thing with the lights are that they can damage eyesight and burn skin if left exposed to skin for a long time Treat it a little like a lazer|1 Its not the average Chinese citizen that will be fooled but rather the teen20something Reddit crowd that has a tenuous knowledge of history at best no critical thinking skills and has never dealt with adversity Those people will eat this shit up upvote it and repeat it to their friends|1 OMG me too Ive just been holed up sitting around chasing shows and eating Sounds like the perfect holiday but Im so brain numbed Cant even go out often because I dont want to waste masks Thank god some places still deliver I got a yoga mat last week and started to exercise everyday which really helped |1 I hope the people that do this catch corona themselves while they come in contact with all of the people they try to make profit off of|1 I really really dont like that they dont specifically declare that the specimens should be stored in a denaturing agent|0 Millennial here remind them who they can lose if they bring sickness to you and other elders in the family|0 Its just one incredibly stupid hotel owner retrofitting the building with 80 people in it while city regulators are all drafted to work on virus problems|0 So maybe like 10 of what we pay for our military|1 This user is clearly party of the Chinese propaganda machine yet it has 17 upvotes from blind sheepEdit ok Bring em on Downvote me if you believe Chinese are going to be reporting to work this week when we still dont know whats happening in Wuhan|1 What is the chance this virus becomes a new flu that never fully disappears and the government never fully removes these restrictions and establishes a dystopian dictatorship for decades to come|1 Well I led you to water Im sorry you wouldnt drink|1 There are actually a lot of Chinese workersfactorybusiness owners live and work in north Italy many of them originated from Wenzhou region and Wenzhou has the second most serious epidemic in China behind WuhanItalian officials did block direct flight to China early but they did not block Chinese citizens from entering the country and they might not took too much concern on the epidemic and failed to screen for early cases until the outbreak eventually happened|0 i dont think its fair to say that youre not immune we dont know relapse of symptoms is a different issue entirely|0 Cause a bat didnt live in a cage too small for it to move isnt gonna have its body parts teeth tail beak reproductive organs removed without anesthetic then carted hundreds of miles without food or water to be killed At least the bat got to live a free life how it wanted before it died|0 How did he die of covid19 if he tested negative |0 Its been fighting containment mitigation efforts No shit the confirmed is still low The point is that if we ignore it itll rip through the population end millions of lives destroy more healthcare systems than necessary What the hell is your point here Are you another braindead asshole who doesnt understand exponential growth|0 Understood but your comment is great in revealing the truth behind this articleThanks man|1 HereshttpsarchivefoZqKQs an archive of the site should allow you to read it all|1 They brought four coronavirus patients to Spokane because Sacred Heart Med Center is the only hospital with enough equipment to treat them in this section of the United StatesI live in Spokane I have family and friends here I dont have a way to leave the city if to many people become infected Im scared|1 Thanks Yeah Ive been wiping mine I didnt know about the fingerprintyness|1 updated every day at 2pm well that was a lie|1 According to Fauci its development is far quicker than any vaccine before it I hope that this kind of accelerated approval becomes norm for vaccines going forward The Atlantic article mentioned that one major reason there is so little interest in the private sector for vaccine developments is because of how winded the regulatory aspect for vaccines have been|1 It has begun The great Western European die off|1 Or youre me 87 sure youre infected symptomatic as fuck for 3 weeks and because they wont test because you havent travelled you cant prove you have it Canada has nothing in place to pay you for missed work as of yet And you live paycheck to paycheck and will be homeless if you miss one more day of work Meanwhile youre hoping work shuts down so you can get on EIso that you can finally stay home And the uncertainty of it all is making you very mentally unstable and ready to spit in peoples facesby people I mean Trudeau|0 Oh definitely include a Poutine for Canada Were rooting for Wuhan all of China to overcome this |1 Well we need to remember a 15 percent chance of death still means an 85 percent chance of recovery We tend to latch on to the bad numbers and assume thats how itll end Even those with underlying conditions a large majority of them will recover|0 Youre not making any sense or using logic The virus is here already Taking the subway in a city where MILLIONS of people ride and touch everything on it daily with far more congestion than any commercial airplane is far greater a risk than flying to a country with no serious outbreak Why are you so focused on airplanes Im starting to think youve never been on a subway in a city with millions of people Airplanes are an oasis of sterility in comparison lol|1 Its up to us buddy its a civilian process Citizen can file class actions for reprehensions due to illegal actions of a foreign country The US did so in American courts against Iran 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will be safe at schools with less than 5 of attendance|1 Thanks so much Its very mild just strange I have been in contact with my doctor he suggests going to the ER if symptoms become worse|0 Should have been the death metal band Welded in Wuhan|0 So far the wording sounds like recommending which means if Im hosting a conference in a month and cancel today I lose everything Ifwhen this goes from recommend to must I wonder if that changes things legallyfinancially for venues and conference organizersI am booked for Mexico Mar 2128 Recommend doesnt sound like flights to Mexico will be grounded does it Will SunwingTransat need to refund or give travel vouchers or will people be out money Fortunately even though I dislike Sunwing I bought their nohassle cancellation meaning I can cancel up to 3hrs before a flight for a full refund for any reason Its likely that canceling this late would result in it not being a cash refund but instead Sunwing travel vouchers Does anyone know any more|1 Because there are a whole bunch of atrisk individuals such as those who are elderly with severe illnesses immunocompromised individuals that need to be able to get hold of these masks Thats why they are sold publicly You cant expect them to make a trip to a hospital now just to get a mask rightBut given the huge spread thats happening and with tons of people who do not know if they have covid or not I can understand why people are wearing masks and why some governments have sort of asked people to wear masks instead of the reverse in countries with not much community spread|0 Why the hell would you need safety glasses Are you doing some welding|0 Doubtful theyre cleaner than my kitchen because I keep to the same standards I was taught when I managed a kitchen However point taken as I know there were many things Id never heard mentioned about kitchens even in home ec class I was told I was odd in home ec by the teacher for insisting on washing the tops of cans before opening them and scrubbing produce before peeling it I couldnt believe they stored produce in bins and in the fridge without scrubbing it first Guess thats what you learn when you grow up with a good German farmwife for a cooking instructor|1 No other country is doing this poor of a job addressing this virus trust me there is We had a vice dean of faculty of medicine of one of the biggest universities declare we did just stop testing and treat the symptoms They ran out of testing reagents 5 days after 2nd contamination|0 If youre an old person or someone with an immune disorder Id worry Most people who get infected will survive but a big problem could be ifwhen this thing blows up and every hospital is overcrowdedunder supplied Thats when things could get real bad Not just for COVID19 patients but even those suffering from other serious illnesses or injuries Most hospitals are already operating at 60 to near max capacity I dont think theyre ready or equipped for a huge COVID19 outbreak Overall if youre younghealthy and are lucky enough to avoid anything else that could get you hospitalized in the next 12 or so months then youre probably going to be fine|0 I mean who the fuck knows whats going on anymore So much shit to sift through Its bullshit that you cant get the whole truth with anything in this world|0 The ones with valves are still very goodBut also how do you disable themEdit wrong about there being filters in valves Our hospital is still accepting them I imagine they will only be used if every other kind of n95 is depleted but definitely not worthless masks|1 I hope youre right And thanks for being positive and not just calling me an idiot It does help lift my spirits to see people positive|1 God damn lochness monster You thought you were clever|1 If you need more then you should be your best to hunt it down from other places but this is the fairest way a store can divvy it up|1 Heard immunity naturally is Darwinism Not to be confused with heard immunity through vaccination Two very different things|1 This was reassuring Youre right I get anxious on these kinds of trips and having to be around people for days on end enough as it is without the added anxiety fueled by a bloody pandemic With the way that things are quickly developing at the moment Ill be surprised if it doesnt get cancelled before I officially tell the tutors that Im pulling out anyway Thank you|1 It still is that difficult In southeast Virginia people are getting turned away because they have decided they arent testing young people Brothers friend went in with 103F fever dry cough sore throat they told him it wasnt the flu and it wasnt strep Said he should stay home for two weeks and that they werent going to test him for Covid19 since they dont have enough tests for young people|1 Do you live in one of Americas most populated cities that happens to be one of its best tourist locations too Thats LA|1 Dude China is tracking you now Stop posting on Reddit throw away your phone and move|0 Bernie Bros be like that They assume their dear leader will have a golden path to the White House under those conditions|1 Basing off this articlehttpwwwtjxinhuanetcomnews20200207c1125541544htm tiancode posted it looks like she went to some city got infected then went back and shed the virus everywhere Im using google translate since I cant read Chinese so Im not sure exactly which city she came from|0 We need to get Hitomi Tanaka the fuck out of there NOW|0 This is a huge reliefThank you so much for forming this subreddit|1 Like what does 1 million test even meanI assume Pence meant reagentkitsmaterial for 1 million tests Definitely not man power or machinery organization or capability for 1 million test|1 These methods to my understanding assume uniform distribution of cases in the countryAt that point you might as well estimate based on the percentage of parliament members who tested positive which Ive seen as 8|1 The advice in the USA and Australia that masks do not help instead of telling people to make homemade masks or wear ANY mask has to be one of the most monumental blunders of government policy in modern timesMany many people will die because of that adviceEven people who want to wear masks feel a stigma in the West because of this idiotic policy|0 httpsmbioasmorgcontent66e0169715We have shown previously that noroviruses are destroyed on copper alloy surfaces In this new study human coronavirus 229E was rapidly inactivated on a range of copper alloys within a few minutes for simulated fingertip contamination and CuZn brasses were very effective at lower copper concentrationConsequently copper alloy surfaces could be employed in communal areas and at any mass gatherings to help reduce transmission of respiratory viruses from contaminated surfaces and protect the public health|1 Im Brazilian Not many people do well in Brazil|1 Because it takes weeks upon weeks upon weeks to recover and then you still have to wait 14 days to be confirmed as recovered but it can kill you in only a week or two|0 the genetic similarities between both strains assessed in Mr Bedfords findings could suggest the virus had been spreading in Washington ever since the first patient returned to Snohomish County in January You could start with viral pneumonia cases in and around Snohomish County that test negative for the flu|0 It may cost them less to cancel now than later|0 I even feel this number is low|0 The media sucks N95 is not effective for the public it only works to protect medical personal Why lie just say the healthcare workers need them more I would give my mask if I had any to hospital staff But dont blow smoke up my ass saying they dont work|0 Im guessing the demographics of people taking cruises is going to take make this disease look pretty bad Hopefully Im wrong|0 I have been absolutely proud of my states response to this outbreak|1 Test locate isolate You need all three|0 FYI every country on this planet is about to understand how a pandemic works and exponential growth Buckle up|1 It just spread around the world you idiot How about you read what you just said|0 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 Can they ship them here US I think well need them soon|1 My main reason for prepping earlier was fear of contracting this from the crowds trying to prep|0 Im concerned my mom may be or at least shes hoping that it kills her I dont know shit is weird and I know 20 years of chronic pain with numerous surgeries that improve but havent fixed it are wearing on her I cant exactly blame her or want her to continue suffering just to stay around on my or dads account I was about to say it would suck for my grandma to bury her daughter but Mimi is in her late 80s so it will be a miracle if she survives this outbreak ifwhen Mimi catches itI think I need to spend some time contemplating mortality of myself and loved ones today something I try to avoid at all costs|1 Stress can kill|0 This is so good |1 I emailed the Liberal MP in the riding I grew up in suggesting this idea My dad still lives there and they have had cases travellers from Iran Even was nice enough to be cordial in my criticism of the complete lack of leadership the PM has exhibited in this pandemic Have not received a response back|0 if only the us was this cautious|0 Well at least theres no need to get worried its not like a whole country of 60 million people doesnt go into quarantine every flu season|0 I thought that this virus doesnt affect children except for them being little virus spreaders who can infect people who are at risk|0 The virus came from cheap pork in Mexico The spread started in US In the spring of 2009 a novel influenza A H1N1 virus emerged It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the worldhttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources2009h1n1pandemichtml|1 Earth will still be here Humans oh well|1 Well bearing in mind not all tests are going to be a positive result Id presume testing capacity by Chinese medical staff would be higher|1 Haha all good I realized after that some people may think Im serious about believing that so added that little disclaimerIve been following this closely since early Jan when it was breaking and was convinced back THEN it was asymptomatically transmitted and now its March |1 Having read The Great Influenza I can see no possible benefit to anyone OR the economy by letting it run its courseThe only thing I can think of is that people will not as you suggest accept the draconian measures absolute quarantines etc until the corpses start stacking up outside the already filledtothebrim hospitals|1 just like last time|1 Can confirm this is true I was also applauding|1 Implying Boomers wont lose their assets to the banks upon death because they didnt save for a stable retirement|0 While good for a fast updating tracker is it bothersome its Chinese Really starting to feel the war of information on reddit|0 Woo hoo Congratulations|1 Perhaps those with compromising complications and the elderly should go before severe symptoms develop since theyre at most risk of dying Every second counts If youre young and healthy hope you just undergo a mild fever And take some rest A lot of young medical workers in Chinas died probably because they chugged as far as they could before resting as well as being bombarded with copious amounts of the virus|0 Compared to France USA and a few othersGranted MOST EU nations are basically an old folks home China is not better off in that regard which increases the likelihood that they have been manipulating their numbersNo way they would have had so few deaths with so many older people AND in an environment that has as bad of air pollution|0 Just bully the virus to make it give up|0 i would rather not order food from people that might be infected preparing it thank you|0 Thanks China You had to fuck the entire world before closing your disgusting and inhumane wet markets |0 I dont think anyone wants it to spread This would just be a nice side affect|1 Ah yes the wearing of a pair of underpants on your head and sticking two pencils up your nose approach Most welcomed in these troubling times indeed|1 This is the issue we need testing I live in a warm country and same it says only 2 ppl but honestly I dont even know where to get tested Ppl are just fighting over hand sanitizer|1 Good to hear|1 Im fine thanks but there are plenty of others that arent they need to relax|1 If the pay is too low then why do you keep applying for these testsArent you a bit like an Uber driver who tells his passengers hes quitting because of the lack of tips and then keeps driving for Uber for years on end|0 I lived in h town for 8 years Its all backwards Had to leave sorry for you Hang in there|0 Hey Im going not going to remove this post as it has generated quite a bit of discussion In the future though please be aware that we discourage the posting of selfpublished articles and I ask that you instead would either post to rChinaFlu where they allow more general discussion or the rCoronavirus daily discussion thread Cheers|1 No not really The only thing gone all the time out of supermarkets is TP But most people still are going to the beach bike week just got over in Daytona and thousands of people were here for that Most people are complaining that the beaches were going to be closed Im not one to freak out over stuff like this but the villages is going to be a ghost town literally because if the virus gets in there all those old people are dying|0 Im supposed to go skiing in Switzerland in two weeks and I live in the US should I start questioning if Ill be able to go|0 Pretty soon unemployment is going to start rising Everything Trump praised about himself will be undone by the end of his term|1 They will certainly have to add nurses to the roster private hospitals are not set up for high dependency|1 How about we cut out the editorial and look at HHSs own numbers Here are the FY18 and FY19 budgets Both years show decreases in overall fundingFY2018 budget brief for the CDChttpswwwhhsgovaboutbudgetfy2018budgetinbriefcdcindexhtmlPages 31 and 32 of this fy2019 budget shows another billion dollar decrease in overall funding for CDC operationshttpswwwhhsgovsitesdefaultfilesfy2019budgetinbriefpdfWhether these were fully enacted by congress is irrelevant to pointing out how the Trump administration apparently values public health resources|1 This has insignificant impact Thousands of contributors with midhighend rigs wont do much regarding research progress Theres supercomputers thatll get task like this done in few minutes instead of days of cluster computation Microsoft and Google have quantum computers I think Microsoft is already tackling this problem not only financiallyTake SETI for example I and other millions of people have contributed with days of computation but ultimately it served no purpose|0 Dr Fauci has saved thousands of lives I was so nervous that he would be fired for unapologetically speaking sense and science That man has served his oath and deserves everyones respect|0 This is the time for reckoning for all the Antivaxers for all homeopaths and all the others who believe that ancient alternative medicine is superior to modern medicine|1 Because the democrats abandoned them Most of those working class people in the swing states wereare really struggling and all the left could do was talk down to them Trump made some big promises and came at a time when they needed change the mosthttpsyoutubeDyYDVaIGdQA|0 Guarantee the Democrats will try some ultrapartisan crap like sneaking heavily democrat policy into a COVID19I agree that mishandling of covid19 is an issue on both sides but dont act like what you described here is a very Republican thing to do|1 Your just not thinking big enough In a truly free market even the can is for sale This is the best capitalismIs like when they mandated EpiPens and then jacked the price 5000 Fucking geniusI applaud whoever decided they could make a test and got the CDC to buying But they didnt deliver in time so shame on them|1 I saw that and thank you|1 Oh yes but at this point it feels like we are all in a giant cauldron spreading whatever virus we have It is like playing Russian roulette with a giant gun|1 Being critical of our own governments means were pro China to many Ingrained nationalism blinds many to the fact that world governments failed to react properly or at allExceptions of course for areas like Singapore Taiwan and S Korea|0 didnt he close off air traffic like right away faster then most|1 There were 28 deaths from NORMAL flu since start of the year so there is a lot of sick people around not connected to covid|0 Ironic|0 Easy to say if youve always been financially secure|1 Could be a very large number and just trying to prep PR and make relevant people aware in advance|1 Number of humans|1 I am sorry I didnt explain it well enough its rather complicate You are not tie down forever you can move pf course settle down in another city its just the system is complicated Also the problem with is that parents are poor not well educated they have to work labor jobs in big cities that pay well so they cant take their children with them due to lack of benefit and again the system is different Also it is very common to have the elderly raise kids while parents work is a big problem people try to fix every year|0 Great post Thank you|1 Thats incredible I wish that was me tbh|1 That helps way more than just a little bit I appreciate your feedback Perhaps Ill just switch to wearing all my painting clothes which are already ruined by oil paint so that I dont really care about hot water fading I can save my nice unfaded clothing for when the risk is overIm almost done gathering things now Tomorrow will be the last trip if I can swing it The stores are out of almost everything Since Ill be selfquarantining though my need for things like hand sanitizer isnt as great as it would be otherwise so Im thinking the two mediumsized bottles I was able to find may be just fineIve been having such a sense of unreality about this all Its hard to wrap my head around it|0 when I say technically I mean from a legal stand point if some guys buys hand sanitizer and wants to sell it but then learns from the law he cant that isnt breaking the law so while it might be wrong ethically I think its correct that he didnt have any charges brought against him|0 The sudden part whateverlisten man hope you stay healthy|1 I believe they are preparing But who can REALLY prepare when the hospitals will be completely overwhelmed with patients|1 I am not sure if we can say significant proof of anything yet I think the only pregnancies that have been studied are ones where the mother was further along in pregnancy when exposed mostly due to how new the virus is I dont think we know the effects on exposure in early pregnancyAlso you are telling people to cite peer reviewed sources and then saying google Dr John Campbell which I believe would lead to youtubeLets not be dismissive of peoples concerns There are still so many unknowns right now|0 I feel like articles like this arent helpful at this point|1 I support your boyfriends decisions but fuck it scares me that it could come to this|0 Yes we need to close all our boarders and enforce two week quarantines All non essentials should be closed|1 BULLSHIT|0 Nah bro we at current all time highs Never has the economy been this strongIn terms of construction Chinese construction materials are notorious for being low quality You get what you pay for|0 Starbucks is offering catastrophe pay to any employees whove been exposed to COVID19 as well as those who havent been but are most vulnerable to becoming illThe company said in a blog Wednesday that any worker whos been diagnosed or come into contact with the virus can get up to 14 days of catastrophe pay to enable them to take off work and stay homeIf employees need more time off after that two week period they can continue to access pay for up to 26 weeks The benefit also goes further Employees who havent been exposed to someone diagnosed with the virus but who are experiencing fever a cough or other symptoms associated with it are advised to stay home and not return to work until they go without symptoms for 24 hours They can tap into catastrophe pay for a three day period|0 Im currently on stage 4 but with more posts like this I could move to stage 5 |1 When his own selfish priories happen to align with the betterment of the many irony|0 I wouldnt say SK has been stopped in its tracks Last I saw they were still on an exponential curve|0 Probably why China never allow another cult in the country To prevent something happened like this|1 Bye hun xoxo|1 Boy I thought trump was dumb Looks like you guys take the cake England|0 First of all there are no civil rights in China Second China regularly enforces cremation as public health policy There isnt enough land to bury the older generation of Chinese safely and superstitious beliefs encourage people to build their own tombs out in the countryside The government has been forceconfiscating coffins and encouraging people to cremate instead Third you have to understand that heaven is high and the emperor is far away ie law enforcement is random and ranges from nonexistant to hyperzealous when somebodys ass is on the lineThis sounds like the system is pressing a bit harder than usual given the circumstances not necessarily an elaborate coverup|1 Its our party and we can die if we want to|0 Im on these calls all the time Insto analystYou generally dont learn shit|1 Im not giving my money away for no reason most of people will also have their income gutted|0 Yeah they are arrogant in their ignorance That is on them|0 i dont doubt that he probably has fecal matter on his hands because he doesnt wash his hands after using the toilet and to think there might be literal shit on things like cupboard door handles in the packets of bread on the light switches on the stair rails is making me feel physically ill|0 Yes officer this comment right here|1 We dont need to model it ab initio Thats the point we have plenty of countries who already showing us what the spread looks like with different approaches A 2 min excel spreadsheet based on real world data will give you a very good idea of whats happening|1 What lol If I walked into a hospital and they had carpets I would probably walk right back out|1 That was very elaborative Thanks|1 The people who are putting their own health at risk every day to save lives deserve nothing but the utmost respect compassion and gratitude Thank you to any healthcare workers for your normally heroic efforts and in times like this words cannot really even express what your contribution and sacrifice means to the world|1 Imagine this crazy concept that this kind of pragmatic idea always existed Then they wouldnt need to announce anything and the exposure from walmart employees that almost certainly already happened could have been avoided This is a great trial run for permanently improving the Walmart system|1 That not even the worse part My school give an incentive for you to come in sick If u miss less that 2 days of school sick or not u get 10 bonus points on the final Someone at my school will get it and walk in with it|0 Follow jenniferatntd on twitter for a shitload of videos as well as the interview with the funeral home that discusses being overwhelmed by how many bodies have to go through the furnace Example Funeral home says they received 127 bodies in one day cremated 116 only 8 were confirmed Smoking gun|0 I wonder how much of these bullshit posts are true This just screams fake and karma farming Its getting old seeing these posts everyday and they contribute nothing to the group We get it that hospitals are underprepared and the gov isnt taking this seriously But do we need a post from a self proclaimed nurse manager No we dont because there are 10 other posts like this|0 Try twinkl I believe they are doing a one month free trial at the moment too|1 I hope people dont try to take advantage of the situation|1 You make a valid point umhakkinenWhat I think is unacceptable is regarding uthefakemexoxo whose BF cant be tested even thought theres a traceable link to Wuhan While a positive test cant do anything other thane told yep you have it it would start giving the public real numbers of those infected and give weight to the seriousness of the matter overall You are right though whatever the diagnosis those with symptoms should stay home|1 Our response has been bad The government has missed the chance where it can save us with low economic impact We can still save ourselves though The math for disease spread implies that wether your amount of infected grows or decreases doesnt depend on population size If nonquarantined sections of China can take take the number of infected from 1000 to 700 then we can decrease the number of infected even if we had 100000 Obviously this is assuming our behavior doesnt change based on number of infected|0 Additional access option check your local librarys website Mine provides free unlimited access to ny times and a few others|1 This is not a war it is an epidemic|1 YES Exactly|1 Does anyone have ground up rhino horn I wanna be prepared if I get infected|0 I can answer about Hong Kong as have many friends and family plus I know a front line doctor who volunteered to treat COVID patientsThey have a rota of volunteers termed the dirty team and theyll rotate for at least a month before a breakback to their usual specialityIn the mean time alot of them choose to self isolate from family in hospital accommodation or with other doctors until theyre off the dirty team|0 I dont know man Ive dealt with trying to get money from the BDC before Theyre an absolutely miserable organization to deal with Someone over there literally told me that I would be better off leaving 10k in the bank for 8 months than using that 10k and turning it into 12 Using that 12 and turning it into 14 etc Theyre not interested in helping high risk small businesses who need it Theyve monopolized business lending Im so behind on my shit right now because every day is a new crisis that I dont even have the proper documents Ill probably need to apply for help meanwhile Im exactly who will need help the most So Im supposed to what Pay 10002000 to get an accountant to professional clean up my books and create a report for them to issue me this emergency funding Where do I find the money to pay the accountant|0 Whats really sucks is that its difficult to cancel an event like this Just like most travel insurance doesnt cover disease outbreaks most event insurance doesnt cover this either If you cancel the event you are still liable for the following venue cost union costs hotel contracts etc This could easily be 1M worth if contracts So its fiscally irresponsible to cancel meaning whatever organization is running the event cant just cancel without contractual ramifications that will most likely bankrupt them Not sure if everyone remembers but Boston Comic Con was canceled due to the city being on lockdown from the marathon bombing and it almost bankrupted them I think they might have been bailed out by another organizationmergedsold Many events now have disaster or terrorism insurance but most of those policies dont cover outbreaks If the city was shut downquarantined insurance might kick in They arent trying to be jerk they are being held by the balls by their contracts and if they initiate the cancellation they are on the hook for it Event Planner|0 play gamecure virus|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 My friends all called me nuts Ive been watching this thing since early January I knew it was going to be bad At first I didnt want to alert anyone and downplayed it when talking to them but then I started actually sharing how I really thought about it and they said I was crazy and its not that bad|0 Not the death numbers imo but infected yes For death numbers you have to take into account that the more serious cases have a significantly higher chance of seeking medical attention at a hospital and also a significantly higher chance of being tested for the virus than the mild cases who are just at their homes in Wuhan which would be where the 19x number comes from This means the death rate and severe cases rate could actually be much lower which would be somewhat good news|1 Exactly And if you dont listen youll be forced They have 247 guard on someone who refused isolation Sorry Ive no source It was on Reddit earlier some where If theres unrest most likely martial law will be declared Lets see if they start I building up troops here soon so that they will already be in place I think if they cant contain people and it turns into civil unrest this is probably what will happen Just an opinionEdit to add linkKentucky Gov Andy Beshear at a press conference said a 53yearold man from Nelson County tested positive and had resisted isolating himselfWe have had the first instance of a person who has refused to selfisolate we have taken steps to force an isolation that will be in their home Beshear saidhttpswwwkystandardcomcontentpersonnelsoncountytestspositivecovid19|0 because theyre otherwise healthy and instead treating for pneumoniajesus christ i know what you mean he doesnt have underlying conditions but that sounds like an oxymoron lollack of testing is hurting us so bad|0 VERY tremendous The most tremendous problem you could ever imagine in a million years HUGELY tremendous|0 What are these dodgy media sources and how are they reliable or relevant Utter bullshit|0 Report him to his teachers If one family member gets it the rest pretty much do too no matter how hard you try to keep to separate rooms|1 In two days well be closer to April 1 than to the Wuhan lockdown date Jan 23 I know many parts of the world will take longer than that to warm up but April brings significantly warmer temperatures and very high amounts of precipitationhumidity to many places in the US at least May brings those temperatures to nearly all of the rest of the states|1 Its a saying from JapanJapanese are said to live by the creed Born Shinto live nonreligious wed Christian and die Buddhisthttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20170623nationalchristianstyleweddingsgrowpopularjapanallureopticsreligion|0 Yeah thats sounds like the likely scenario Im just skeptical as I had a viral infection my symptoms worsened over the course of past 3 weeks only now starting to get betterpurple fingerstoessharp chest painheadachesetc and was refused testing on 3 111 calls and ambulance said vitals were fine so decided not to go hospital Maybe its a different illness or vascular disease but it seemed cause for concern and my 111 calls werent even logged on the system Just seems like a big effort to not test from my experience and the numbers|1 Fuck these people Take care of yourself first tell the landlords to fuck off|0 Did u photoshop that shit on his face to make him look even more douchey|0 Obviously they under reported but it is now safe where I am I dont understand why it has to be me spreading their propaganda when its a genuine view from my perspective The US is also grossly under reporting In fact the president seems to be trying to make people think its not a big deal After a big fuck up at the beginning China got their shit together and stopped the spread It most likely has to do with the sheepish nature of the people due to the way they were brainwashed but they listened stayed inside wore masks and now there are like 2 active cases in my 7 million person cityIts really crazy how the western propaganda is really taking hold So strong|0 I think they are going to be at 300 dead per day for the whole week 3 days straight of 300 dead and 3000 cases Europe by the end of the month will be were Italy was a week or two ago Its going to be a clusterfuck for the whole of Europe|0 Mutations are random but the general long term trend is toward lower virulence healthy hosts spread more virus overallWhat worries me is that covid19 has such a long incubation that a more lethal mutation could still spread|0 or they could tell the customer to fuck off theyre risking infection for a shitty job and will not tolerate abuse or they will walk out the door and the customer can go somewhere elseright to refuse service if there ever is a time to stand up to asshole customers its now im getting crap pay and putting ppl that live at my house at risk for the corona virus im not going to ring up someone thats being rude to me and thats final this is the hill that i will die on if i dont like how im treated i will not help them period i dont fucking give a shit if the supervisor tells me they will write me up for refusal to ring up a customer i will NOT sign the paper either tell me to do something else or fire me|0 Alright done Im looking for the Financial Literacy dvds I used to teach off of I cant find them but here read thishttpswwwinvestopediacomtermsppersonalfinanceasp|1 I work in a bar and Ill still have to work paddys day even though parades are cancelled I cant afford to not work Pubs being packed is still gonna happen Ive a feeling after next week well see an enormous spike in cases in Ireland|0 Lol likelyCome on How dumb do they think we areJust more drip feeding info so that when they finally tell us the truth we wont panic|1 if the school has 50employees are they ok with 1 or 2 deaths|1 How kind|1 Ugh pneumonia can happen in anyone Nasty cough going around early december Wife and I both had huge amounts of congestion and just barely avoided the hospital She had to get a steroid inhaler Im still hacking up chunksAnyone can get pneumonia but its most often more fatal in the elderly Its kinda considered a good way to go as you just tend to pass out then finally die|0 This is probably happening worldwide In lots of tourist areas animals have become accustomed to feeding They will all be going crazy without their usual dependable source|0 Ask them when was the last time the flu shut entire countries down If they answer the Spanish Flu then thats not really helping their case since that one killed 13 of Europe|0 Do not assume they did Most doctors I have visited like this one do not wear gloves during examination and do not wash hands between patients wear masks etc Its a bit gross tbh|0 Holy hell|0 Again he had asthma if you have no preexisting conditions youre fine|0 Honestly unless the cases explode the government will let companies and people decide for themselves Forced quarantine or shutting down places wont happen unless the hand is forced Im hearing alot of Its just a flu everyone keep working|0 Thanks|1 Fearing for your health is entitled How fucking dumb|0 Agree We will know when deaths spike that it has been here for a month|1 Theres a lot unknown about this Theres a combination of the viral damage to cells as well as immune response to the virus that can also cause injury We know children get much milder COVID than older adults The older you get the worse it seems to be Childrens immune systems are different Some viruses hit them much harder others oddly they do really well with One example is Hepatitis A It causes severe disease in adolescents and adults but children 5 years old rarely get the severe hepatitis though kids excel at spreading it to adults Suppressing the immune system doesnt seem to work well at least not with steroids And immunocompromised adults seem to do worse so its not just the immune system thats the problem Why some people get completely asymptomatic disease when infected with SARSCoV2 and others get severe disease while still others develop terrible ARDS and multiorgan system failure is still not known As someone mentioned below influenza can also have this pattern Some healthy people develop a cytokine storm like syndrome with influenza Heres a decent article httpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201402140227142250htmhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201402140227142250htm whether this is happening with COVID remains to be seen|0 Yes I reached out to my neighbours on Facebook to offer any help they might need Im not that keen on them so avoided having to chat to them for too long|1 Numbers from China cant be trusted How many of those were political activists|0 We are too in Minnesota and Wisconsin Colleges are sending kids home for spring break early then when its time to return classes will be online or they are making special room arrangements Its good to plan for the possibility but not yet time to get whooped up about it|1 My wife and I definitely need more but she is worried about finances Especially because we are leaving for CO in 2 weeks|0 Also mortality rate for previous conditionsagegender combined to know what it would be for example for a 60 year old woman with hypertension Or death rate by age group excluding everyone who had previous conditions But I dont know if that information is released|0 As long as youre next to the water it smells like sewer|1 This literally is a civilians warI worry about people who work in sewer sanitation and garbage removal|0 I unsubbed from there like a perfectly healthy person with a sudden high fever its been compromised|1 True It just seemed like that poster needed other sources|1 Its still there Im no IG expert but found her|0 The CDC was far more competent in Contagion And they did turn a blind eye on the scientist that kept on working in his BSL2 lab|0 I meant a collective containment effort at a state levelWe have nothing to lose if we try this collectively at least compared to the alternative of allowing it to spread everywhereIf the government orders workplaces in your area to shut then you wont lose your job if they open again|1 The average American is obesediabetic and unhealthy no risk there at all |0 They all want to live out there zombie apocalypse dreams Look at where we are|1 Honestly having a few get infected may be just what we need to get an actual meaningful response|1 How are you a drugseeking when you just want a test|1 Good luck|1 The situation here is pretty complex and not for the virus itselfSignals from different levels of government local regional and national are often conflicting we cant see a clear direction and many governor are still thinking the situation can be managed without complete and multi level lockdownAll these measures should have been taken at least 1 or even 2 weeks agoWhat is worst is that also other nations should be taking similar measure but they seem deaf on that earPlease make pressure to your politicians and government before is too late|0 Yeswe have rights Theyre called unions McDonalds workers in the UK get 28 days holiday A quick google will show you that |1 10 icu was meant to be 5 according to the WHO will serious cases be 30 at the current rate|0 Yeah but how many flu patients end up on ventsWtf We Americans are fucked|0 Isnt everything computerised now anywayWouldnt it be fairly simple to check original country of departure|1 What about ad hoc masks like we see imagines of Bottles on peoples heads etc Are they being allowed by authorities|1 A study from the Lancet found no evidence of vertical transmission albeit a very small sample sizeLink httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620303603fulltext|0 This idea has actually been considered in the US back during the H1N1 swine flu Its been considered an effective way to triage patients while minimizing the spread from having to wait in the ER|1 They also were not cancelled in 1918 during the Spanish Flu pandemic|0 I thought Sewer oil refered to oil used in cooking multiple times No he is not but he said Chinese will eat anything so I made a joke about eating him and his racist ass Also who deep fries exotic wild life If anything Chinese people will make soup out of it|0 Thank you|1 Meanwhile my friend is pregnant WORKS IN A HOSPITAL and is convinced its just the flu and everyone is overreacting Ive tried so hard to tell her otherwise but at this point I had to mute her texts because theres just no convincing her Shes also only about 4 months pregnant which is a god awful time to get anything dangerous|0 In Berlin they stole the same stuff from the childrens cancer ward|0 The alcohol in hand sanitiser is not drinking alcohol there are different types of alcohol|1 Did Mossad hand out coronavirus blankets or something|1 You need to consider the perspective here Thats a patient with self diagnosed probably flu or cold like symptoms which were at least not so bad that they are already in treatment The prevalence of those symptoms in the general population is huge in regions with still colds and flu season maybe half of the patients going to their doctor have those and with the current panic and many people thinking about each cough it is COVID19 even more but the prevalence of COVID19 is still tiny Beside that there is just not the capability to test all those cases not even in Germany and it would generate false positives if you just test random peopleIf we talk about severe cases or hospitalized cases of pneumonia which look like COVID19 it can make sense to test them already now for multiple reasons medical ones but including also public health science and workplace safety In Germany if the doctors in hospitals think it is looking like it could be COVID19 they often test University hospitals here already do that on a large scale with inhouse testing in their own labs they all have that capability now and smaller hospitals often use the commercial lab networks for that In that group with the additional clinical diagnose the prevalence is higherThat said afaik 1 of all the cases in Germany was found that way|1 It wasnt the useful information that was downvoted It was the first paragraph|0 They just used it in the context of non celebrity but I interpreted your comment as asking what it meant and it seems like you were challenging their use of the word |1 I absolutely agree but that doesnt make me respect them The idea that its disrespectful to continue traveling and not worrying about the elderly seems ridiculous to me I dont respect people because theyre older i respect people for the ideals they hold and the actions they take to make those ideals a reality The entire generation of people who are the most at risk due to this virus have for a lifetime shown that they do not care about anyone but themselves I find it extremely hard to convince myself to care about the problem that faces them|0 agreed a country flair only for USA specific posts would allow them to be filtered out|1 I feel you on the parent thing My parents are being completely stubborn about this My parents are both 65 both retired My dad has high blood pressure and my mom has heart and liver issues as well as diabetes She just got out of the hospital 6 days ago after an eightday stay Both of them are still going out like everythings fine My husband and I are in our 30s and havent left the house in nearly a week Most of our close friends are doing the same Im immunocompromised and have told my parents I cant see them until they stop going out and are sure they dont have COVID19 I feel badly but Ive been telling them for at least 2 weeks that there would have to be some changes to their lives They havent heeded my warnings nor the warnings of every doctor and scientist pleading with people to stay home I hope they do not get sick but I am not going to get myself sick when they are making reckless choices Their fathers were called to fight in wars overseas they are being asked to stay in their homes for a few weeks and watch TVreadplay on their tablets|1 Oh shit I just moved back to Oakdale from Stockton We have 2 confirmed cases in Modesto I didnt know Stockton had any|0 How long do you think they can keep up the charade At some point the death toll could be too high to associate with flu deaths Or will it subside before it gets to that point According to my 3rd grade level math skills it will only take 10 Percent 30 million of the population to be infected for 1 million people to die|0 Thats not happening yet luckily all the articles were fake news the Italian order of physicians made an official statement about it|0 If thats the only symptom though then theres no need for a doctors visit should be exercising social distancing and good hygiene anyway Self quarantine like Im doing if you think its necessary too|1 Because the same degenerate losers who shipped all production to a foreign nation are the same ones who didnt stockpile materials Its almost like it was a strategy the whole time|0 Best Christmas present you could possibly have|1 According to your first link its a pandemic for this bond if1 is caused by coronavirus filovirus Ebola Lassa fever Rift Valley fever or Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever 2 kills at least 250 people 3 lasts at least 12 weeks 4 has at least 250 new cases in the past 12 weeks 5 has an increasing average number of new cases over the past 12 weeks and 6 kills at least 20 people in a second countryLooks to me like Covid19 has already hit all those bullets I can understand the financial elite fighting the loss of 95 million though|0 Yeah I literally caught it from a friend because I have underlying conditions Ill still survive and even if I dont Its not her fault no one intentionally gives it to anyone else If you have a pattern of being reckless and ignoring advice you should probably feel guilty anyways but hey let this be a lesson Better late than never|1 If someone with corona virus looks at you you now have corona virus Wear sunglasses and no eye contact|0 I cant understand myself either it does seem that hes of the needs of the many must make way for the needs of the few way of thinking and he said himself a lot of families will lose people to it Will it work that way Im not so sureScary times ahead my friend|1 Those astronauts are our only hope quarantineearth|1 Yes we need to all come together wearing masks gloves goggles all while staying several meters apart|1 I saw that People still convinced Pierce is clear though Pure delusion|1 The hospitals can isolate the infected from passing it off to others and also provide the infected with care to reduce the effects of the symptoms|0 Its foolish to fly from MA to Copenhagen in 15 weeks right Been planning this trip for months Not worried about actually being in Copenhagen but more worried about the airport repercussions if we get quarantined missing work insurance issues internationally etc|0 Currently no corona patients in Hongsong Chungcheongnamdo|0 Key takeaway stay indoors and masks are effective|1 Yeah and while the tabloits are eating it up you starve|0 were seeing rapid deaths in older peoplejust quoting the original text|1 Fuck yeah|0 The WHO stopped doing them because big countries that werent in the top 10 threatened to pull funding|0 It is the markers on the genome that matter it shows it is highly likely this thing has been spreading in the wild in Washington State for at least 6 weeks it is unlikely a new infection source from China for example would have the same markers This means that we should expect to see potentially many more cases of viral pneumonia if everything we know about how infectious this virus is is true And the fact that we dont means that we have been vastly overestimating the virulence|1 I want to spin it for my doom bonerFTFY|0 So a right is something like the right to free speech which isnt necessary to survive but is considered fair I guess Lol yeah Should definitely be offering food over Facebook access|1 Keep a pantry of dry and canned food people 2 months worth of food as a minimum|1 This article is dumb 73 degrees Thats not hot at all Lets see how fast thing spreads when its 90|0 California had faulty test kitsWhat the hell then the CDC said it would send new ones out in a week I thought the US was readyNOPE That is what Im afraid of|0 Thats the idea The virus doesnt want to kill the host it wants to replicate and transmit|1 Yes They are still showing Alabama as clear when we have 9 confirmed cases Why can we not get realtime numbers from them|1 Shocked picachu|0 Portugal currently have 245 infected cases It doubled since yesterday If it was to keep doubling they would have 8 million in 15 days from now|0 Ive been learning Kanji for years and thats a small subset of Hanzi It is not easy|0 Viruses definitely mutate and that would be one terrible mutation I do not know the answer to that|0 IMO Its to soon to be wearing them unless you have a lot or its a respiratorjust remember they are useless if not used correctly ie taking them off and putting them on correctly I have a supply but not touched em yet has I work in retail and figure Im gonna need em when we go lockdown though its all a guessing game|0 Trump is at the age that if he gets this he could be very sick He should really care Its in his personal best interest to keep this from spreading|1 My high risk grandfather whom I live with just got tested and we wont know the results for 4 days In the mean time I have to go to work|0 Just make sure you have plenty of foodTP stocked and youll be golden|1 Greenland I thought only Madagascar survives Dont tell me I bought the wrong bunker|0 I only see two cases from Mexico today what are you seeing Mexicos doing a far worse job than we are and essentially only testing what could be imported casesIt would be nice to know where in Mexico the cases came from too|0 Thanks for the translation Regardless who makes the vaccine every person on the planet should get it|1 You can still enter as an US national Still the same treatment as mentioned above you do get a cutesy booklet about the virus in Chinese and English though httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovtravelerscarebooklethtml|1 Its in switzerland too we still try to act upon itThats as if theyd say Well the patient already has cancer no use to do anything about it guess well just let him dieThen again our goverment here is idiotic enough to just let the italian border wide open 70000 people dailySo our quarantines and all that are more or less useless|0 Seriously wife is a PA and Ive been asking her daily if her work has complimented any safetytraining protocols and still nothing Im pretty much accepting that Im she is going to get infected and spread it to me then who knows after that Insane|0 Settle down there has been no h2h transmission in the WA community|0 Bob knows there is no way to get the test results from the 4 million new tests being put into the mail on FridayThe media rolled over today and didnt ask Pence or Redsie about there not being the capacity to read all the tests they keep saying are going out this weekendWhat a trainwreck the CDC is They are worse than anyone could have imagined httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200310coronavirustestinglabmaterialsshortage125212httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200310coronavirustestinglabmaterialsshortage125212|0 Wrong A LOT of people work 12 hours a day 6 days a week only 4 days off per month|0 From what I read about Italy they start doing a special triaging process where they assess the survival chance of a presenting patient and then act accordinglySo if someone comes in 85 years old on deaths door and the system is overwhelmed that person is going to die Thats why its so important to keep everyone quarantined|1 When you start operating at 10000 of healthcare capacity it doesnt matter much if you are in Iran or Italy and are a serious case you probably die Social response to the disease and density matter most|0 I live in Ireland and all of my friends think this whole thing is just a big excuse to go out get pissed and party Ive told them how I feel but they wont listen and they all think that Im overreacting I cant stop feeling guilty that these guys are out there just facilitating the spread of this What should I do|1 yeah about thathttpspbstwimgcommediaERn7DutXkAIVb8formatjpgname900x900Thats the Spokesman on the left Minister of Industry on the right|1 But its just the flu|0 So true So many people are functional alcoholics and dont even know it They would be vying for space in the ER|1 Like milk|1 No but there reaching her for 1 and 2nd I dont know details but I would presume there is a reason health and safety wise that this was able to be pushed through I bet there was one hell of a waiver signed|1 much cheaper than treating the sick this is a good play|1 Yall are doing great Lousiana has tested ONE|1 Look at that rich celebrities can survive a mild flu|1 Without being sneezed or coughed on Id imagine its pretty hard to get a high enough viral load for infection I think its a nonfactor in terms of growth unless in cultures where sharing food drinks is the norm|1 Ok then maybe you have a point Our schools are using extensive cleaning practices and receiving as trump would say huge amounts of soap hand sanitizer is discouraged because it causes antibiotic resistance NYC is an American central hub and you cant get what you need that is a national problem If you cant get what you need how do other states expect to be ok that arent as prestigious as NYI may have spoken in haste My apologies I apparently erroneously assumed the govt would partner with schools making sure they had what they needed|1 Send them thisCoronavirus is dangerous to young people In China 41 387 of patients in seriouscritical condition and requiring hospitalization were between ages of 1549 1 Currently 50 of those in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old 2 Patient number one in Italy was a healthy 38 year old He required nearly three weeks of critical life support before he began to recover 3 A majority of the young people I just described would be dead without medical care including ventilators advanced antiviral medications and other treatments We likely have around 62000 ventilators currently in the entire US but many of these are already being used 4 They will quickly run out Young people are not safe from this at all they just think that they are They will die their bodies will be permanently damaged Sources 1 httpsbitly2xGmZL7httpsbitly2xGmZL7 2 httpsbitly38PNBWYhttpsbitly38PNBWY 3 httpsabcnws33j8GIdhttpsabcnws33j8GId 4 httpsnpr3cXIcjXhttpsnpr3cXIcjX|0 I hope youre doing well Keep your spirits high|1 In the US we have 1 of the masks we need to protect our health care workershttpswwwbusinessinsidercomusa1percent3billionfacemasksneededcoronaviruspandemic20203This disease will pose a DDOS on essential services like fire police EMS and hospitals by making their staff sick all at onceWe need to frame this as everyones civic duty to protect the people who protect us Your personal risk is not the point|1 If the infection gets totally out of hand we might have to save the world by detonating some nukes Wed lose China but it would be worth ithttpsbooksgooglecombooksidrYfyDgYKOCUCpgPA231lpgPA231|1 First day working from home for me today Im miserable and agitated And i was much less productive Were setting up teams meetings throughout the week this week so we can interact with each other and boost morale|0 Lol Rodman is our only help|1 If you are young and healthy thats pointless unless you get it then you should|1 So the thing is New Tang Dynasty Television is a rather small news organization founded and run by Falun Gong and also has a weird hard on for QAnon I dont think theyre the most trustworthy source on China right now If that conversation was actually legitimate dont you think itd be passed around everywhere by larger news organizations by now rather than some tiny obscure one run by a cult This isnt to say China isnt hiding shit but I definitely wouldnt be asking Falun Gong about that|1 You could reach that level of limitations only in a paramilitary country no one in the West will be able to do it|0 Clearly Italy just has problems with their healthcare system and we should trust Chinas numbers complicitly|1 Keep an eye out for the charts posted to the subs In 10 days time an average of one person will be infected every second My guess is 10 14 days time By then Africa and India will be burning up and instead of 100s of thousands of infected it will be millions|0 They are hiding so many cases Ask any nurses you know|0 Ive heard this a ton some people truly dont get ID|1 A band called Code Orange did the same thing yesterday Streaming their gig on twitch because of the virus Kinda surreal but awesome|1 No one has cash on hand like Apple They can easily afford to do this|1 Theyll need them once the preppers start getting attacked by the zombie CovoZombies|0 Damn He can approve my request for a loan any day|0 I wouldnt be surprised if the financial and trade ramifications of Canada shutting it down before the US are whats preventing us from taking the necessary actions I wouldnt be surprised if that was the case for a number of Western countries actually Heck Chretien wanted to legalize in the early aughts and it didnt happen because Bush Jr co told us to scram|0 If they take it seriously they would keep dorms open over break so people dont have to travel|0 Yes how could they abuse the human rights of those who love eating wild animals|1 Does it apply to Dance Battles|0 This All the way Love your username btw|1 Well in this case the Seattle Flu Study has been around for quite some time they are actually studying the flu But they had the testing equipment and nobody else was testing so they were able to add coronavirus to their research protocol and start testing samples for coronavirus Sad thing is Flu Study isnt particularly unique and testing for coronavirus isnt terribly difficult The equipment to test for coronavirus is active at a lot of labs around the country big labs like Quest Diagnostics perform thousands of similar tests every day All you need is the genetic primer sequences to test for which are published on the Internet by CDC and a lot of other foreign groups Take the leash off the big testing corps like Quest let any physician order a COVID19 test without any permission from anybody else and youll have hundreds of thousands of tests per week in very little time Youll also find lots more infected people and thats bad for the statistics But at least you can get them mostly out of circulation and at least in home isolation before they infect others|0 Herd immunity with this type of virus is a theory at bestWe dont know what will happen to them Thats negligent and could prove fatal|0 New England Machinist here we are really slow on work the only thing holding us up right now is some very large long term contract work thats exploded recently and our product line But average shop work we get has gone down a ton since January We still have some but no where to what we had prior to Holiday time|1 Please stop Are people going to die Yes and it will be sad We dont need mass hysteria This disease is closer to and probably a fair bit less than 1918 flu Its not ebola or rabies|0 GAD and OCD can definitely overlap Most of the time when theres a component of health anxiety involved in OCD it can manifest as intrusive thoughts obsession over getting the viruseveryone i love is going to die and the compulsion is the constant checking checking mediachecking symptoms I suffer from OCD and Health Anxiety too and I promise you that putting away your phonegetting offline and doing something you enjoy is the best medicine for lessening your anxiety in this situation|1 Sorry see me edit above|0 Yep I get that but other people|1 We have a couple pts at my hospital that had the COVID test Thursday last week and were still waiting on the results Its absolutely ridiculous how its taking so long|0 FREEDOMx200Bto die from a pandemic |0 Can you elaborate I genuinely dont know I thought they become like crony capitalists|1 No cause hes no leader|0 Its based off a single Asian male of 8 total donors It best its a potential new thing to look into but very likely to just be an artifact|1 we must be safe|1 The end game is either China or Italy Either people wake up and start locking down communities or you become Italy where hundreds die a day and infection rates become so saturated that nearly everyone in the country has been exposed to it|0 Put some cooking oil in it It stays on top and keeps the water from evaporating|1 Thank you|1 Even in the same city families are being separated Im not saying this isnt awful it is But the alternative is worse|0 Problem is they are getting others killed not just themselves|0 Im from Israel currently people from certain countries like Italy China Germany etc are not allowed to enter Israel the list is getting bigger every week there are now talks about adding the US to that list so he might not even be able to enter the country|1 I realize this dude coincidentally hit his predictions on the head but how would the virus transferring back to the bat make it stronger|1 Seriously NYC has the largest Chinese population outside of China Downtown Flushing Queens is basically ChinaKorea 2All comments of mine below this are Selfdeleted|0 If I want to keep my job Im supposed to This unpaid leave includes myself and the other managers as well|1 Wishing TN would follow your Governor seems to be handling this really well from the few headlines Ive seen|1 SMH|0 My 22 year old sister with twin 18 month old daughters iswas a waitress at a bar in Dallas TX She is shut down until further notice Told her to sign up for Unemployment NOW which she should be eligible for|1 The last thing you wanna do is go to the hospital if it is something you can handle at home No one should go unless they absolutely are having trouble breathing The less strain we put on the hospitals the better for everyone it appears that most people only have mild symptoms and recover easy peasy|1 depends what countries you intend japan and korea are ahead of us germany france and uk are surely in our same situation but i guess as long as it doesnt emerge their patient0 there they cant start tackling it meaning the situation will probably be even more bad cause the longer it takes the more the virus spreads without nobody noticingin the us im ready to bet its going to be a shitshow of epic proportions im ready to bet also theyll deploy the army pretty soon to control the situation|1 Just now I dont want people touching me|0 That study has been thoroughly debunked there are no clinically significantly different L and S strains|0 fear of being sued for negligence|0 Interesting|1 Right if it was an example its fine But youre not the poster I replied to and maybe they wanted to affirm that as an estimate as opposed to a random example|1 Same here I live in CT The owner lives in NYC and takes the train in once a week Hes taking the train in tomorrow to greet the newly hired West Coast Salesman who were flying in to meet everybody for no particular reason we just do this to say hi to new people Were all going to have lunch together in a small overcrowded conference room in his honor Im late 50s Ive had pneumonia twice and bronchitis two dozen times in my lifeGood Times Good luck to you|1 Very unlikely More likely is that people get a power kick from possessing the ability to spread what they have|1 Thanks for the tip She spent all day on that account taking notes Much appreciated my friend thanks again|1 Its not racist but it is considered offensive Its just not great pr I mean no body wants their city or region branded all over death counts in a way and it can lead people to unnecessarily fear certain places or individuals And its especially problematic when the virus gets dubbed after a location that wasnt actually the origin point Which is actually what happened in the influenza pandemic of 19181920 It got dubbed the Spanish Flu because there were lots of news stories from Spain because Spain was neutral when other countries werent It probably didnt even start in EuropeIt can also be kinda misleading Take hantavirus Named for the Hanta river near one outbreak of the fever Except hantavirus has fuckall to do with the river or Korea Same with legionaires disease named after the group of people it infected in an outbreak and Rocky Mountain spotted fever which occurs most often in the South East Pretty far from the Rockies Naming viruses after places and people isnt really done any more|0 There seems to be a lot of indications that it is an effective prophylactic in which case it could drastically reduce the burden on the healthcare system|1 The new decree Funerals are gatherings of people and those are not allowed Only a few close relatives can be at the burial and only if they are more than one meter apart from each other|0 What machination is putting the dumb guy in front of the dumb guys|0 Shame weve got no toilet paper though jk Im thankful our government is stepping up and doing something|1 Theres a lot of nowhere in the US Northern Michigan Maine is pretty empty Wyoming no one lives there And you can drive to pretty much any of it|1 Wouldnt 10 million on masks have been better spent Or do the Cons really have to buy advertising with our money to tell us how great they are|1 Ok Im looking further now from the other thread and this is extremely concerning Do you think students and professors could start a petition|1 If he cancels all events from here on out doesnt that also look like him throwing in the towel|1 Shame the asbestos in the filter will kill him after the pandemic is gone|0 Ive been sewing masks for myself and my family I wore an N95 mask when I went to vote on March 2 and I didnt care what anyone thought because the polling place was a senior center Yesterday I had to go to Joann for a couple of things for more masks and my daughter and I both wore ones Id made Two different women at the store asked me for advice on making them I think theyll catch on but in the meantime Im wearing mine every time I go out not just for protection but to help normalize wearing them I make them out of funcoolpretty fabrics so theyre not scary and rely on the filterliner for the barrier|1 Because he is a native Newfoundlander salt of the earth people who say it the way it is People who will open their doors and welcome you in anytime and especially during a time of crisis Standup people like this will put others before them and would not give a thought to career riskhttpwwwmunca2004reporthonourgraduatesaylwardbiophp|1 That is nonsense|0 Ted Cruz wont return to the Senate for 14 days because he was at the CPAC meeting where a positive COVID19 person was Maybe he is a snake also|1 You are missing the point whos determine what isnt true In this case the mod is acting as judge and jury as if there isnt a voting system on this platform|0 Thanks for sharing anyways|1 More like work until showing symptoms|1 How did they escape|1 If you are foreigner you will be reimpatriated do not worry unless you are sick|0 Glad to hear some companies actually care Stay strong and stay safe my friend|1 Yeah the Chinese shills waging a disinformation campaign trying to deflect responsibility for unleashing this plague on all peoples of Earth|1 I kinda dont have a choice unless I wanna sell drugs again or get evicted But I completely understand how important it is The lack of testing is absolutely insane With schools shutdown my job is pushed off but how are poor kids on work study supposed to eat and pay rent I applied to a bunch of positions probably exposing myself unnecessarily but it outweighs the potential financial repercussions Just had the virus hit 90 miles away|0 Introverts for life my dude Stay safe anyway|1 Because that would give you way more false positives|1 The idea could be that there isnt enough spread yet and they want a higher equilibrium first before further measures are takenProblem with quarantining too early is that theres too little pressure on the medical system early onNot sure if thats actually going on here though I dont know if theres been enough testing in the USA for States to make wellinformed decisions at this point|1 Yeah Im aware of it I was going to mention it myself The Wired article only really mentioned Big Dom asking what they could bring to the table rather than specifically mentioning something like this so I wasnt sure if it even got brought up It seems to me that it would make sense for them to partner with software and hardware companies to provide a universal solution so everyone has the same set up Something like Portal or Echo Show I dont know if either of those could provide the extra entertainment a tablet or phone could though I dont want to discourage you from looking into used tech because there needs to be something if it hasnt been considered But I would wait to see what the government are proposing first because if they are going down the route of quarantining the over 70s the whole thing seems impractical and unenforceable that I cant see how theyre going to pull it off If theyre going to give the over 70s the choice of either staying in their homes or risk getting infected and dying I suspect a lot would rather take the risk than feel like theyre losing their independence and everything that comes with it|1 It is acetaminophentylenol Same compound but different naming conventions Paracetamol is what its called in Aus and I believe Europe But yes you can definitely get it OTC and probably already have it in your cabinet under a different name|1 Unfortunately those bonds wont release until next month and thats if they determine that all criteria are met there are 2 pending|0 Unfortunately quercetin is very poorly absorbed in the gut which limits its efficacy Mixing it with black pepper may help absorption I have an immune issue Im concerned about and my specialist suggested olive leaf twice a day as its a fantastic anti viral|1 Sounds like CDC is postrationalising to distract from the fact that the US administration is not prepared and has inadequate resources to deal with the escalating situation|0 Good news though that two people over the age of 60 only had very mild symptoms|1 There are thats true But I dont feel it fair to punish the good citizens and make us all act like how the idiots of society might act At least put something in to allow people to do it if they want and not have it be stigmatised Id love to take my kids out of school but its not that easy This is all crap|0 I simultaneously spitlaughed and slightly peed mself thank you|1 well he declared a national emergency to divert funding to his border wall and I dont think anyone got a text about that|0 Great Depression 2 Electric actually this isnt funny|0 As a Kentuckian the tristate has been on top of this So impressed with our leadership during this time|1 Mild is anything that does not require hospitalization in this case Pneumonia sucks but youre not likely to kick the bucket from viral pneumonia unless you have some other issues going on And that also does not mean you will get pneumoniait was just lumped into that category You might get it|0 They better start doing anal swabs for more accurate tests|1 I totally agree I think its been here in the US and active since January and was not identified Wuhan goes back to November It was spreading via air travel from the beginning I myself had a pretty weird bug in January Ive been sick a lot of times Im 50 This one knocked my breath out like nothing Ive ever had before Im still not completely over it I could be a mild case No way to get tested now but I wonder what the infection rate truly is|1 Theres no counter argument What youre describing is beyond even the wildest movie scenario Youre telling us that every single human being on earth will be infected with a virus that hasnt even infected everyone in the city it started in and likely wont You dont have to be a virologist to understand that preventative measures and human immunity will have some effect It may not be fully effective But the idea that even half of humanity will acquire it doesnt hold up to scrutiny|0 At least they could do another sale Like the summersale or the wintersale they could do the StayIndoorSale with up to 95 price reduction|1 They were bought in January LOL It takes 710 days to ship usually they were supposed to arrive in March a so thats 3 months and the virus doesnt last on surfaces for very long So it is pretty safe to buy from China who by the way manufacture almost all of the worlds masks My point was the US does not want people to have masks China is better now anyways|1 Even government money though Costs of healthcare for example Costs to the economy of greater interruptions from a more sudden peak and more prolonged shutdowns of businesses Unfortunately the US doesnt want to invest in preventive measures which save money later|1 Go to the fucking flower show you absolute wimp|0 Call me crazy but Im gonna go out on a limb and say that entire website is BS Like China would even have the number of doctors or means to counttrack 28 million cases of the virus that quickly Say 50 of the people they inspect have the virus So theyve inspected what56 million people already Its probably a logistical nightmare to even inspect 100000 or even a million people in a few weeks And even then wed be getting social media posts showing the government mandated screenings and waiting lines If a website is gonna lie about shit at least make it believable|0 Thats what Im expecting to happen here as well|1 This is the main fear I have about the whole thing right now Chances are we are not getting the truth The Chinese govt is notorious for playing with numbers If their official stats say 1500 have died you can safely believe the real number is ten times that The problem is that regulating bodies such as the CDC WHO etc believe that it is better to keep people in the dark so that they can go about doing their job without being asked too many questions Truth is sacrificed for trying to avoid any kind of panic So what is really going on WHO knows|0 I get that and its absolutely important to contextualize numbers like this but its an important statistic when a lot of people are claiming youre basically in the clear if youre under 60 My companys owner is using that as his excuse to not let us work remotely despite literally all of us being able to work remote asneeded under normal circumstances|1 You are describing my day today Exhausted at end of day could barely stay awake to drive home asleep by 4 now Im up I have a slight cough dry achy back often and have had one itchytwitchy eye for over a week that I keep thinking I should see the eye doctor about but people say its probably just allergies When I can rest I feel better But I cant catch a break My assistant is near useless so I run myself ragged at work I cant wait for spring break but have family demands I miss the old work days with less demands and I miss being single during times I dont feel 100 I just want to sleep|0 Modern problems require modern solutions|0 Theyve successfully convinced the world that the virus came from bats|1 Funny I said the same thing as you in this sub but got screened by mods|1 Just more moronic behavior on all sides Common sense says every isolation order needs to be backed by a very big stick 50000 fine etc If you dont make it serious then dont be shocked it is not taken seriously I also hope those who were infected sue this person I think they have a case If somebody dies criminally charge with manslaughter Let it be known that this will not be tolerated But we wont do anything close to this|0 This guy is a secret agent for Corona Chan If we are going to fight this girl we need all the Autists of the Internet working double shifts|0 I swear we have the dumbest sack of shit for a leader especially in these trying times|0 My school has no hand gel left and we have absolutely zero ppe How can you socially distance yourself in a classroom of 30 kids who are walking viruses themselves|1 Remember how in the weeks after September 11 President Bush was out talking publicly while Cheney was in a bunker somewhere to ensure they couldnt both be taken out Why in the world is Pence standing next to Trump at all these events Do they not understand the point of a vice president and the way infectious diseases work|1 I read that 98 of those who die are above 68 yo and mostly with preexisting health conditions That will not impact your office as much because its not the working population Thats why they are advising people to stay the fuck away from old people Thats not true anymore|0 My partner is in a factory as well They will only shut down when they r told by the gov Really dont like this iob|0 I cant express as an American how fearful I am of our response|0 I agree And part of being that person is knowing your audience I have been very straight with the ones I trust can take it all in on one pass Others the less criticalindependent thinkers often require a gentler touch So far Im pleased with the reception Im getting I like the no reason to panic because having a good plan means youre not going to have to panic Also reminding people that what they should do isnt that far from preparing for a hurricane a very bad blizzard etc No reasonable person wants to be caught off guard at the last minute when were seeing it coming all the way from China|1 Gobert also only gave it to 1 teammate Donovan Mitchell Which is kind of shocking The virus must only like allstar players|0 Yeah that happens when you actually start testing this thing spreads like the plaguewell more so|1 Honestly Japan mainly PM Abe Shinzo has been handling a lot of their disastrous situations pretty poorly recently The nuclear disaster in Fukushima their recent rape cases of men getting off the hook their 99 conviction rate in trial etc They seem to be hiding or pushing aside a lot of problems instead of trying to fix it head on|0 Wikipedia is not an academic journal so doesnt constitute an argument If you want to claim the paper is shoddy point out its flaws They list the percentage of blood types in the population then the population of ill people and compare themCould they have flaws in their methods Sure but what are they|1 Am I the only one that was hoping to hear Bella Ciao|1 I think theres a lot going around or that went around the past couple months Everyone at work has been sick with various stuff and some REALLY weird cold went through basically everyone I know a couple weeks ago None of us ran a fever that I know of but mine started with a nasty bout of shortness of breath inhaler helped so no idea for a day then moderate coughing for a day random periods of extreme fatigue that would just go away within an hour or two and a lot of mildmoderate upper respiratory issues but not as bad as a normal cold I got sick about two weeks ago and my husband and I are still dealing with some sinus congestion and a bit of a coughCant imagine it was COVID19 especially as Im on the opposite side of the country from the oldest known breakout but it was seriously one of the weirdest viruses Ive ever experienced whatever it was|0 Ive skipped weddings and funerals to ski Nothing to see here people move along|0 That is how it should be done Stay safe over there|1 Clear your keyboard after someone use it But if you get symptoms I would say talk to 111 or occupational therapy they will prob tell you to self isolate|1 Fucking pure evil Makes me sick|0 This is very bad|0 Im immunocompromised as well at this point if I was in ICU I wouldnt care if they used a bicycle pump on me the next month is going to be brutal|0 Thats not what the quote says They just said theyre not convinced its uncontrollable That means there are effective controls Japan South Korea China Taiwan Singapore have stopped growthThey are convinced its uncontrollable now because a large amount of Western governments were doing fuck all|0 But Im not supposed to go to a doctor with him because people who are exhibiting symptoms should not infect doctors or other people who are at the doctors office So where do I get the doctors note fromAs I understand it if I get him tested and hes positive I can just get a note without him having to be seen in person|1 If there are far more mild cases than measured wouldnt that lower the CFR while simultaneously raising the r0|1 I think Northern Mariana Islands is fine as well|1 This is not true Misinformation|0 Good point but the issue is that you start checking randomly every 15 minutes or hour waiting for news and keep this up the whole day Youre informed but your brainmental health doesnt get a break I started checking too often but being around people for a bit helps to fill your free time with some interaction and distraction instead of mindless scrolling thats making you feel on edge|1 Will work absolutely perfect in the Netherlands for sure3 MILION PEOPLE out of 17 at the age 65 in a densily packed country with what turns out barely any hospital intensive care capacity maybe 10001200 Intensive care spots for 17 million inhabitants in total|1 Yes His disastrous leadership has set China back so much it will take a decade to undo the damage if at all|0 Bastards The blood is on their hands|0 The problem here in Germany is our mentality towards the virus Making fun of the Coronavirus seem to have become a number one hobby for many people and every new news article has dozens of comments claiming that its just fear mongering and the media and experts just exaggerate the situation In my opinion itll only be taken serious when the death toll reaches a threedigit numbers So far we have been extremely lucky and nobody has died but with over 600 confirmed cases and the number doubling every few days its only a matter of time until the situation will get really bad And even then a lot of people will be too stubborn to voluntarily stay at home |0 Literally every post about the Chinese doctors has some shit about ccp propaganda shills and its usually one of the comments close to the top|0 I think the GP concept works better in rural areas that cannot afford to have a real hospital The thing with these Chinese system is that you end up with massive disparities between urban and rural areas in terms of healthcare quality because healthcare resources are so concentratedFirst tier cities like Beijing and Shanghai have life expectancy on par with Japan Ruralundeveloped provinces like Tibet have life expectancy that is lower than Congo|1 Everything Ive read about preparing says to have antipyretics on hand Yet Im struggling to find one primary source that says I should take it for self care at homeIt would be nice to have a solid sources input on this|1 The problem with a two week pause is it only works if they can make everyone do it People are stupid and plenty will ignore it no matter what It probably would have to be longer If you wait two weeks but many ignore it and any of the people ignoring it are sick and infect anyone else a week or so into it dont you just restart from where we were a month ago with literally nothing gained|0 please please please get your wife to straighten these loons out|1 It stands to reason China would fake death numbers at a similar ratio to detected cases Underreporting deaths vs new cases seems unlikely at this point based on SK numbers from memory there were 1000 cases and 100 deaths in Wuhan I dont see SK death toll hitting 100 by the time 1000 cases are confirmed|0 fuck i got 8 and i thought i was pablo escobar|0 Interview with emergency director at Swedish national board of health and welfare on the 13th of mars|0 For business or vacation They uh do know theres a global pandemic yes|1 Cotton on a ship can burn for days Crazy|0 Both confidence and panic are the wrong reaction Neither is better than the other but if panic drives you to over prepare and confidence drives you to under prepare panic would be the clear choice|0 I have more links just like it httpslararnastidningsefolkhalsomyndighetenbarnspriderintecoronahttpsomniseaJo4mLjI bet Sweden is going to be the last country in Europe taking proactive measures|1 Even if its safe by itself or in combination with ebola its safety in combination with COVID19 is unknown before anyone tries itIm just saying start slow build confidence dont dive in headfirst|1 Yeahit only kills old people Other peoplethat arent meIm so fucking tired of this Its like no one cares about spreading it because they arent gonna die from it but other people will I wish I wasnt alive around these cunts|0 I think he may be keeping you in the dark Im not meaning this to be negative but if you look at the charts and graphs as well as the spread of it in comparison to the flu youll realize its far more serious than government officials are making out I understand they arent wanting to create hysteria but I believe theyre being way too complacent with this I would far rather err on the side of caution than have my head buried in the sand and be ill prepared Hopefully it will amount to minimal infection in the western world but I fear it wont be the case The sad thing is its infected just under 70000 killed around 1500 and has another 10000 in serious conditionpotentially having a fatality rate of around 18 I think by the end of next week everyone will have a better understanding of this virus and the severity of it|0 We need to remember this when this thing is over Taiwan had our backs We need to have theirs for a change Fuck China|0 Thank you Thats a good idea Ill get that If the blood oxygen level goes down then I should go see a doctor |1 Lol|1 I have heard that too from an Ottawa radio DJ I switched the dial and the other station was giving away a vacation At least it wasnt a cruise |1 In rare occasions the incentives for the DPRKs dictatorship and the people align|1 CFR is going to be a relative measure based on the ability of health care systems to identify cases and this is subject to various factors like test accuracy and criteria for testing a patient test availability etc During an outbreak it is also dependent on how far behind the counts are as it takes time to identify cases after incubation has endedIt might also depend considerably on quality and promptness of careIt is also dependent on the ability to detect deaths which might be more of a problem in less capable health care systems or when health care systems are overloadedThere are probably different contexts that generate various CFR values due to many different factors I suppose the question is what is CFR in your average developed western country|1 Im honestly extremely worried I live in a place where i need to take public transport to go basically anywhere and to do basically anything and anyone can be a danger at this point at least if i was in morocco id have my parents car to drive around and theres only 7 cases 3000 in france|0 Video just uploaded Can anyone translate preferably around the 1900 mark as this guy seems to have a heated argument with a nurse httpsyoutubeFlxGO9m2k3U|0 Yes|1 httpsfoldingathomeorghttpsfoldingathomeorg this one yeah|1 Proactive would be to close schools now before its too late|1 These kind of internationally pointing visuals kinda put in perspective the scale of containment efforts and contact tracingLike how many nurses alone must it take worldwide just to follow up with patients in selfquarantine at home regularly|0 If you want to flatten the curve then dont buy scarce medical supplies in a pandemic DERP|1 lmao consulting recruiting ended like late fall everyones set already|1 It could mutate into so many strains If everyone gets infected its possibilities for mutation are so much higher No one is worried that it can get much worse|0 Even if they somehow knew they were directly responsible they would never accept it or allow any feelings of remorse for their wildly irresponsible choices But hey Spring Break Thats what matters|0 Youre honestly fineIt might resemble a nasty cold but if you have a normal immune system and not an overweight diabetic with many smoking pack years you should be able to clear it in due time|1 bluechipsupplycom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I agree history is being made Hopefully this brings out the best in us and allows us to institute needed change to ensure a brighter future for the next generations to come It may suck for us but if we take advantage of the situation we can help ensure that the next time something happens more of the world is prepared|1 The stock market is doing great|1 Thats a pretty narrow way of looking at it Not every country has the virus yet how many people in those countries have access to a devicethe internet Even if they do have a device that could connect to reddit do they speak a decent enough level of English to use the site effectivelygo on this subreddit How many of them would use reddit even if they filled all of the criteria Many would prefer to use websites in their local language sites like Inven or WeiboAll the data Ive seen so far shows the user base for this site to be majority American There has been a lot of coverage on the US over the last few days but that is pretty normal We had tons of posts on China in the beginning then Korea and then Italy There were even quite a few on Iran even though we have relatively few Iranians using the siteIm not even American Im from Hong Kong There were initial posts from some of us but the virus seems to have been contained relatively well here Were still at 100 cases with only a handful of those coming in the last week so theres not too much to report Im much more concerned about the US because I have familymy Aunt in San Francisco only has one lung and college friends living there so the articles are useful to me|1 What the fuck does that have to do with anythingAnd no I dontIf you have any more personal questions for me feel free to message me so I can tell you to fuck off in private|0 It worked in China at least so far Cases there were beginning to grow exponentially so they quarantined several cities and even went as far as to monitor compliance with drones and seal people in buildings to enforce it and their cases have started tapering off The issue is I dont know that our governments are willing to do what is necessary or that they are even capable of doing itEven with that extraordinary response they still had to build several thousandbed emergency hospitals in 10 days to handle the number of cases That doesnt make me feel all that good about how that is going to play out here|1 I wash my hands AND do thoughts and prayers just to be on the safe side|1 TIL that viruses LOVE open borders|1 I think in 2 weeks we will see clusters of it across the US 2 weeks after that is when we will start seeing equally dispersed medical infrastructure overload 2 weeks after that is when we will be in the middle of hell with a full blown epidemic country wide How long that part rides out I have no idea|0 Im in Japan and am not rich with a car and countryside house I am doing what I can but have precious few options particularly because the government has decided to do next to nothingAny preventative measure I take now time is running out on how long it will last until I cant afford it anymore During that time the infection is just spreading and spreadingI was sincerely hoping that the extent of infection would be uncovered and the government would act like how China acted to a degree to end the crisis by now However theyre choking off their people preventing them from having survival options by delaying action through obfuscating the problem|1 Stuff like this takes resources and coordination The CDC leadership was gutted federal leadership was complacent and there was no testing capability put in place when this started So we had no one competent to set this up and no tests to use even if we did Some states and localities are getting their shit together but a patchwork response is not how you deal with a pandemic|0 His ass|0 EXACTLY If he had a cold wouldnt he keep on the procedure mask throughout the day instead of pitching it It made no sense|0 In China Thats the one place with the military who absolutely WILL maintain a shoot to kill quarantine|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the 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increase their clearance and protocols with the virus rn Id call and ask if the procedures are in place when they will be in place For example before virus they would sanitize room after surgeries because blood could carry HIV or other viruses not with just disinfectants but with RNA killing solutions|0 I say let it happen its just natural selection at this point|1 The Guardian would be best for this|1 Your post has been removed because this may not be a reliable source Please resubmit your post with a link to an internationally recognized news organization or an recognized institutionIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 Its almost like this is not meant to be contained|1 What does that entail I was thinking the worst that could happen is infected people cough on the dog and those particles somehow end up in the owners house later|0 Theres multiple levels of ARDS treatment1 Oxygen therapy is just with a breathing mask connected by a tube to an oxygen enriched source the patient is still moderately functional and but needs a more oxygen in their circulatory system Also can have IV fluids etc Defined as Serious case2 Non invasive ventilation can be for those that cant breath properly but are usually conscious and responsive these are usually the nasal or face masks This actively assists with pushing air into their lungs Serious and also sometimes Critical3Mechanical ventilation can also be for intubations with an endotracheal tube these patients cannot breath and are unresponsiveCritical4ECMO when their circulatory organs completely fail Essentially dialysis for the lungs and heart Critical|0 Orange man is doing actually quite well for the people who elected him Not so much for others He is doing a heck of a lot better than lets drone some more civilians Obama|1 Agreed but I wouldnt feel comfortable either Do you know how quickly shit spreads in college |0 No not really Its rare to do physical ones with your peersfriends these days People use wechats red packet function And the best part about it is they send the red packet to a group and everyone gets a random amount For example If I did 500 rmb chinese currency to 5 friends one of them might get like 380 and one might get 100 and the other 3 then split only 20 so its fun The formal ones are really left for parents and bosses And you dont give your boss one they give you one|1 Argh The one drug Im allergic to tylenol Well this sucks more|0 They are true heroes|1 Repurposed citizens your job is now to keep your fellow citizens safe from this plague|1 Well we had a typhus scare last year Not that sissy typhoid fever mind you but actual typhuslike the medievaltrench warfare shit Not to mention our usual plague squirrels smog wildfires earthquakes antivaxxers etcso coronavirus will just be one more fad here Id think Realistically everythings really spread out hardly anyone uses public transportlots of worse places to be than LA when it comes to a disease outbreak to be fair|0 thats def one thing that bothers meok i survived but what perm damage did it do to my body|0 You have too much faith in humanity People are shitty Simple as that I believe in capital punishment I also believe in eugenics so theres that|0 The infection rate of 2570 was assuming an unadulterated R0 among a naive population meaning literally zero containment or mitigation efforts Just to give an idea without mitigation efforts this virus would have infected hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in Japan by now Instead they have around 300 cases Even South Korea which is seeing a large increase in cases linked to that church has likely avoided 90 of the potential for a massive epidemic simply due to the measures they have taken to reduce spread They might see 40000 cases over the next 23 months instead of 4 million Hell they might pull a China and see their cases decline even quicker than that Cases yesterday went up 11 in South Korea 2 days before that it went up 34 In the modern world viruses can spread wider but they have a more difficult time surging upwards in specific areas We are incredibly good at mitigation efforts to reduce spread compared to how we used to be Hand washing hand sanitizer social distancing sanitizing public areas isolating cases PPE shutting down workplaces and schools identifying symptoms etc etc Just a large scale community increase in hand sanitizer and hand washing can reduce an R0 by a massive amount let alone other efforts|1 NoTrevor Bedford has genetic epidemiology analysis that suggests that the confirmed cases are lagging behind the actual community cases He is saying that the 366 currently confirmed cases underestimate the actual infections|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated 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are the most at risk damnet|0 Hence the ban you know where incase anybody gets any bright ideas|0 Love your statsCoukd you please start adding death delta Just for the final list Thanks keep up the good work|1 In my navy town we always said Morons And Retards In Nice Expensive Suits|1 Some schools are on spring break and bored kids will eat If you want advance warningalcohol will be next|0 Not all viral infections produce a lasting immune response though Infection with the other four known coronaviruses does not result in longlasting immunity as far as we know And were seeing a number of reports of reinfection with this new virus Doesnt seem like the herd immunity idea is going to be particularly successful but I hope Im wrong|1 Yeah probably the people with the milder cases havent been at the front of the queue for treatment so they havent received an official diagnosis yet Its just really sad that the first major location for infection in WA turns out to have been a nursinghome Imagine being one of those other old people under quarantine knowing that your friends have already died and the doctors cant even tell you if you are next|0 We just brought my brother in law back from Hong Kong yesterday he said he had no idea how bad the virus was until he was back in the US Crazy|0 Quora is a weird one to block given the excessive amount of Chinese propaganda on there|0 To be honest even I didnt realise we were so unprepared I figured the military would have something in times of war ready to go Or that oxygen masks with tanks would be getting wheeled in Even with a sceptical viewpoint I didnt see this much unpreparedness Its shocking Yet they can give the banks 100b or so when in trouble|0 To get that N95 rating your mask needs a good sealcoverage If you have facial hair it makes it harder to get that seal People who dont know this might as well not be wearing masks|1 Ah screw off youre hoping a lot of people get fucked over If the real estate market declines drastically due to economic factors the chances are that the economy will be in such a bad state that many wont have a job to afford those cheap places anyway|0 I can only do so much I dont make the most money in the world and live in an expensive city and the supplies Ive accumulated are enough to last one person maybe a few weeks I believe we should have a shared civic duty to do our part in preventing the spread of this illness and helping the community in ways we can but Im not sticking my neck out by being the only person willing to do this until its too late and suddenly people expect aid Ive tried to spread awareness and tell friends family to be prepared but I dont know what else to doWestern society really needs to reevaluate the more toxic elements of our individualist culture but its quickly becoming too late for that now during this crisis|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be 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well|1 Was he in a serious condition since 251 Its not too surprising being in hospital that long as given the low case numbers people with it are hospitalised immediately outside China|0 Agreed These companies and private individuals should be compensated at the usual rates for masks and medical supplies Right now the government has to act in order to minimize the death toll and the amount of people hospitalized and private individuals shouldnt be hording these supplies There are plenty of ethical ways to make a profit during the pandemic stocks are really cheap right now and could yield huge returns later on but hording medical supplies will cause needless deaths|1 what the WHO is not telling you is the reporting of infections is not in realtime They report data as it is received and some is many days old the WHO needs the chinese governments cooperation and wont get it if they call china out on the initial cover up and the continued under reporting of infections and especially fatalities Businesses and other governments already know this Otherwise we wouldnt have the travel ban businesses closed and kids staying home from schoolI know a teacher in Shanghai very far from Wuhan and learned yesterday she is exclusively holding her classes online|0 I tell them they are the same as anti vax groups Despite overwhelming evidence and suggestions from leaders in medicine and science theyre just like nah Im good This is no big deal My friends Facebook post said so|1 Right Best of luck with that|1 Yeah seeing straight out might be a problem Would help to encourage social isolation if you cant see to walk Lol|1 No Save them so doctors offices seeing people for flu and other common URIs and procedures can use them|0 This is exactly right I get why we are distancing early on to allow time for countermeasures to appropriately scale up but at some point we are going to have to go back to living a normal but conscientious lifestyle There is no reality in which we can wait out a vaccine or stop the spread entirely with a couple weeks of downtime|0 Yeah I know what it is The fact you think this is what runs business as a standard is a bit funny in itself Probably right up there with trickle down theory also great business theory|1 If it gets that bad some legislation could be passed to open a window of universal medicare coverage for patients confirmed infected by nCov The usual arguments wouldnt happen because everyone has a selfish interest in ensuring people infected severely with this are medically monitored and not allowed to spread it|0 I tried to send this image on WeChat to a friend and it was blocked I wonder why|1 Hmmm Clearly the virus got into a time machine went back to before he was married then murdered him Absolutely tragic|0 Its been fascinating to watch some of my fellow high schoolers on Instagram for the most part the teenagers I know are taking this seriously and staying away from each otherMy dad on the other hand keeps asking whether I want to go to eat at the local pub|1 Just in Ohio there are an estimated 100 thousand infected according the head of Ohio Department of Health|0 Well the WHO just said in the past 2 days CFR is 34 which would alter your numbers a bit but its bad either way|0 You think thats stupid How about not going to be tested because you are afraid you will but into quarantine said petson has all symptoms and instead go to work in crowded offices and travel internationally There should pe a penal punishment for these types of people|0 Hi this sounds very interesting Do you mind sharing a source|1 god bless|1 It has not truly spread within the US yet so people are not as cognizant of the actual danger of crowds yet Also a lot of people dont even keep up with current news beyond the most cursory of glances|0 Seeing that your favorite basketball player caught it makes the virus very real for a very large number of people who would not otherwise take it seriouslyTom Hankss infection was a turning point This is PR that saves lives|1 What doesnt kill you will make you stronger |1 Probably because people who work with dead bodies arent as respectful as you would imagine The morgue is likely stretched with the additional precautions and increased workload The whole system will be stretched so there will be delays in normal processing My point was people die in hospital Theres no way to know why these people died and there has been a possibly accurate conclusion made that these are all whuflu patients|0 No clearly not washing my hands between every single customer transaction Thats the risk you take going out in public same with buying your groceries We are supposed to wash our hands between accepting money and then making the drinks though|1 Not me personally I just remember when someone was suspected of having it every place they had been shut down Now its just go home and self isolate and they dont even bother to check where you went|0 Take care of yourself|1 Im not here to tear you to shreds The government is stuck between a rock and a hard place Just got to wait and see if the current measures are enough If were lucky the slow community infection will go on long enough for vaccinetreatment to develop If were unlucky we get exponential increase in cases the NHS gets overwhelmed and collapses Either way some people will die Its frying pan or fire no easy solution to it|0 I was talking about Italy theyre in full lockdown Going to the beach would be illegal|0 Each species of plants contain all sorts of different compounds Some compounds will trigger the intended effect eg THC CBD in weed many will do nothing and some will harm you This is one of the reasons why you want to extract the active ingredients instead of using the plants outright Even those extracted active ingredients have many side effects Guess how much side effect you could get from the thousands of ingredentsAnother reason is this each strains of the plant can contain various degree of active ingredients Some strains have 30 while others have 01 thus 100g of plant leaves can give you 300x dosage difference You could have both certain death and no effect whatsoever within the 300x dosage differenceFor those reasons the plants themselves have low potential Those active ingredients have to be extracted and tested And this process takes very long time usually|0 Consider how many people dont get paid if they dont go to workSome people may get full sick pay if they are lucky Others will be eligible only for government funded statutory sick pay up to 9425 per weekOthers self employedcontractorsbusiness owners will get no pay No idea how it affects zero hours workersAdd in the impact of upsetting your employer and risking losing out of hours zero hours need to keep their employer happy or risk never getting any shiftsThen theres the impact of salaried workers that dont want to create a huge workload for their colleagues or put off work when they are already falling behind with a large workload Even larger if they went on holidayIts a massive clusterfuck Our economic system doesnt facilitate people willingly not going to work a lot of the time Government needs to step up if they want people to do this|0 Thats not reason to straight up lying to them and say masks dont work|0 They often test two to three times before discharge To get negatives three times in a row when youre actually positive should be quite low and unlikely though its not impossible Its too early to say|1 Ill play the odds about masks etc until there is a single case in this state then it is mask on and fuck everybody else you are on your own Good luck to everyone see you on the other side either the other side of the crisis or the other side where the white light is calling |0 Theres a couple on this ship who live not terribly far from me|1 I have no idea how they could be so uninformedNot that hard None of these people have obviously struggled too much in life None of these people have an inherint interest in learning anything more than to get their job None of these people actually live in real communities they live in nice gated communities with their nice gated livesIm sure a couple understood and knew but were powerless over the masses of ignorance and lack of intelligence Now we know Next time we want something done we have to somehow make sure whatever it is somehow ends up on their doorstep until they have no choice but to handle it Only real guarantee is that theyll at the very least notice it|0 FBA inbound shipment processing was already being delayed due to long queues through Q4 and beyond Now ecommerce sales overall are exploding and the staples are the most popular itemsThe result of this will be some nonessential FBA items going out of stock more orders shipped via selffulfillment and some sellers moving away from FBA longterm as it was already becoming less profitable and harder to meet the requirementsrFulfillmentByAmazon post if you want to read morehttpswwwredditcomrFulfillmentByAmazoncommentsfk1x4ntemporarilyprioritizingproductscomingintoour|1 Whoever can do it please do it and fast|1 Yeah this pisses me off bad|0 Hopefully they stay recovered There have been lots of cases discharged from hospital who have died days later|0 This is a naturally occuring pandemic but it also shows how vulnerable the US is to a bio attack Ten times the military spending of all of Europe and we cant handle even diagnose how badly were hit|0 lol not even close|1 i would try to help you but i think its too late|1 It wasnt just 20somethings sadly|1 I love Almond Milk or rice milk Both are shelf stable until openedI dont think any are in the store now though|1 Eh Ive been getting looks and laughed at for telling people were on the precipace of at least a couple pages in history books all week This will change a lot of things Im more afraid of what happens when less able countries really start getting hit and feel trapped in a corner like North Korea or somethingI mean I had to argue with a coworker for like 10 minutes before he got the message that just getting sick is not the worry here Its the repercussions of losing 34s of our working populace for a time being Its amazing how shortsighted and myopic the average persons views are|1 I hope that exhusband sues the fucking hell out of her|0 Yeah a 15 minute antibody test is not going to be as sensitive as a PCR test but its cheap and fast so you can at least screen out people who are likely to have a high viral load and highly infectious alreadyThink of the virus containment system as a multilayer sieve Each layer does not necessarily have to catch every single positive case You start with the cheapest and fastest detection methods like thermal cameras and filter out the people with the most obvious symptoms and progressively work your way to slower more expensive and accurate tests to catch people that are asymptomatic|1 Yes but the point is the panic was the same|0 I honestly believe the lack of testing in this country has been a conflagration of several factors1 American exceptionalism our tests are going to be way better than those tests vietnam Korea and China are doing2 American greed until recently it probably seemed like it would be an easy way to make some quick money on the pandemic false alarm Every other year or so we see a new panic about some new disease that teaches us some new geography Why not try to cash in on a government overreaction 3 I think our politicians bought in to the reduce panic and everything will be ok rhetoric From the beginning weve been told that modern medical systems that take a proactive approach do fine Unfortunately the politicians seem to believe that take proactive measures meant they could ignore this crisisI understand that we are a divided country right now and that a crisis can make it easy to pin blame on the other guy Stand up and put partisan politics aside Democrats are quick to point out that Trump fired the pandemic response team and Republicans point out some bureaucratic rules from the Obama administration We can all look back and say we should have done better Right now we need to take the steps that need to be taken|0 As a respiratory therapist currently dealing with having to REUSE dirty PPE thank you We havent had enough masks and are now cross contaminating our current patients by wearing 1 mask per shift Shipments were supposed to come in today and did not Surprise Thank you thank you and my little old lady patients say thank you by proxy|1 For all we know there could be millions infected with very mild symptoms that are not being counted so the deathrate could be a lot lower than 1 percent|0 Susannah Guthrie noted that Trump tweeted on Monday that the fake news media and the Democratic Party were working to inflame the coronavirus situation and asked Pence to address the people who arent afraid of coronavirus and think its just politics and hypePence admitted that Theres been some irresponsible rhetoricIm pretty sure in Pences mind he was thinking of the Democratic Party not the President|1 Also the most freedom Freedom can be abused but its worth it|1 Most likely the entire economy may freeze for a bit Even rich people are losing money right now so I could see it happening|1 Allegedly fumigated his office after his HIV positive attorney would visit likely in a bubble with hamburgers right about now|1 What Ive found is that all 3 played in New York the top state for confirmed cases 34 and 38 which could have been the place they contracted the virus I really dont trust the players who arent honest about their symptoms Christian Wood had flu like symptoms but played on 311|1 its called Wall Street and pure capitalism without empathy or sympathy works perfectly in models BUT not really in real life|1 If he dies it will be so unfair I want to watch him suffer as he begins to understand how much hes damaged global politics and the country I want him to go brokeHe deserves a shot at redemption after hitting rock bottom COVID19 is too kind a fate|0 It means that the entire plane is now at moderate risk of exposure if hes infected and the people sitting in the rows near his which share the same air circulation loop are at high risk|0 Ok we all hate Trump but its probably more due to the atomization of society under Capitalism httpsenwikipediaorgwikiAtomismsocialhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAtomismsocialThere is a sizable portion of the human population who thinks this COVID19 pandemic is all overreacting right up until one of their close family members dies Same goes for global warming gun violence gay rights Until it literally affects their personal daytoday fake news Zero sense of solidarity No empathy for strangers in Italy let alone China Trump isnt helping but the US culture is a fuckedup blend of you get what you deserve and poor people are lazy not like me and any one who died of cancer must have eaten the wrong stuff not like me Were all guilty|0 This has been a far more uplifting and inspiring report than the presidential speech this afternoon Bless you and others like you for working hard to keep the nation clean and hopeful|1 It might be a reason to close schools but how would you weigh it up against a reason to keep schools openMany health professionals have kids and couldnt work if they had to look after their kidsSo a vague unknown no one understands the long term effect versus lower staffing levels at hospitals that are already stretched|0 I hope so or maybe this is their testing capacity|1 And afaik there isnt a single recorded death in a patient younger than 10 yet|1 Yeah I caught that as well The timeline is absolutely frightening This is not just like the flu as some are saying|0 There has to be some numbers missing today it just doesnt make sense for a drastic decrease|0 It its an attempt to make the situation appear better its failingThe US Death vs Recovery stats are currently at 38 vs 8httpsblogdatawrapperdecoronaviruschartstablecountriesall|0 Well if he is a bartender and doesnt wear a mask he has no chance anyway|1 Those rich bankers cant hide from the disease|1 All you would need to do to crash the economy is suspend air travel indefinitely Oh the economy isnt more important than livesOkay sure But were not just talking about wall street here The airline industry employs 10 million people in the United States alone Remove their paychecks from the equation and youre going to have major problems not even looking at the other impacts of no air travel|0 Check out the Totoboro respirator website It might give folks some ideas about how to print these and they are designed to be modified for individual fit These masks are reusable with replacement filters I do not work for this company and am not trying to sell anything Im only sharing an idea that others might find useful for inspiration |1 Same as Korea No country tested nearly as many people as China |0 If this ends up being half as bad human impactwise and scientists and doctors are predicting it will be because of extreme steps like this And at the end of the tunnel you will still have folks who will act high and mighty saying see I told you this was blown way out of proportion Im so cool and smart for brushing this off|1 I told my Dad a few days before the national state of emergency was declared since hes in his 70s and doesnt really watch the news I laid out detailed things of China and Italy and got him up to date About how many were dying already and what this could look like in the days to come I told him I could get him the pages and pages of obituaries Italys been publishing if he really wanted to understand And how Seattle was just the beginning here To my shock he listened apparently because Ive never done this beforebeen so quietly freaked out in this sort of deal I had already been gathering supplies since around midFebruary getting a bit extra here and there that could last a while Weve been gathering a little bit of what I hadnt already stockpiled since then though weve mostly got everything And he already randomly had dried beans dried long grain rice dried peas etc|0 Morons|0 I agree especially since its not the first outbreak the response could absolutely have been faster than it was Even then Im not sure well do better in the west|1 There are two schools of thought on the weakened immune system On the one hand theres the conventional wisdom that your immune system needs to be high to fight the virus But on the other hand there are people saying that overactive immune systems can overreact to the virus and make it worse So you might be okay IDK|1 Yeah similar to the comments on Instagram then It makes me sick to my stomach reading it because these people are so thick that they dont understand the impact it will have on all of us They wont have any fun to be spoiled when their grandparents are sat in hospital waiting for a bed Though it most likely wont effect them at all probably some poor old neighbour down the road will get it when she stood by this idiot at the counter at TescoHow they lack such awareness for other people is beyond me If they do get the virus I honestly will have no sympathy for them|0 Honestly if the lack of supply is that bad and they do work health care providers really should have them first|1 Got a source for this nonsense|0 Here in Oregon the governor has just banned gatherings of over 250 people for the next month Washington state is doing the same It is a good idea to stay away from huge gatherings|1 Holy lord thats the worst mobile experience Ive had in my lifeEdit Im aware that a mobile view can be enabled but it doesnt enable it by default|0 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17581 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 udylantherabbit2016 at 7296 nices44 uHashmannannidan at 234 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Nope Companies are waiting to sell them as prices are still rising also people want to buy them with the panic behaviourBut hospitals are the ones that really need the materials before the public The companies can ask the government for indemnities once the emergency state is over|0 Fever is an imprecise diagnostic test for infection In addition there are a lot of very well known causes for fever They havent gone into hiding because of the new kid on the block|1 Same I have a summer gig with a theme park Im hoping it doesnt get cancelled buuuut budgets are prob gonna get cut Was doing so well too they were actually talking about having my show do more datesmore money etc Really screwed me cuz I turned down other options for it but since Im a pure 1099 worker there is no commitmentI am terrified right now|0 Ive read that they pulled pretty much anyone they could spare from every department to help manage cases in China|1 Herd Immunity can work only problem is it wont happen for a year or longer And it wont work for everybody of courseEdit added that last sentence|0 If they run out of respirators the will increase|1 With 120 deaths predicted for today is it close enough on the graph Numbers might help in some location but perhaps it is best to just include in post|1 My guess is aggressive plasma infusions from healthy children Luckily they have a backup Pope if even that dont work|1 Not going to lie even though I subscribed to this sub shortly after it came out i was 100 just lol sucks to be Chinese Didnt enter panic mode until mid February Still better than most of my neighbors tho|1 Ok boomer Gen Z ItaliansOk zoomer COVID19|1 going to and from China be blocked just 2 weeksWhat would this achieve The epidemic wont be contained within 2 weeks If you isolate China indefinitely obviously bad things would happen to the economy|0 Meh it depends on your moods Rice is great because you can pour chili over it and extend a pot of chili into more mealsWe buy a lot of pastaroni mix and those Knorr pasta packets|1 So many people I talk to at work or my family or friends are so casual saying its just a flu just wash your hands Ive been trying to warn them without being too pessimistic but honestly its better to be prepared than complacent This will Get worse before it gets better|1 Thats a good idea Normally I use my tongue to press the elevator buttons|1 Actually the downvotes show a lack of knowledge of breastfeeding If shes breastfeeding the child directly doesnt work with pumping and the child had COVID19 then her breastmilk would likely have some protections for the infant It is true the best protection would be in breastmilk if both the mother and baby had the virus However there is still some protection for babies directly nursing|1 Trump could have fully funded the department that watched for and planned for epidemics Corona virus only came into existence in lateNovember President Trump had flight restrictions in place by January Are we really pretending that nobody was watching or planning for corona virus Because dude thats just not reality|1 a rent and mortgage payment halt would be helpful|1 No Europeans with any semblance of intelligence thinks the US is a 3rd world country Anyone who thinks that is most likely the kind of person that OP is talking about|1 yea because of the virus outbreak As he said the videos gain traction because of this virus Im sure people collapse in Wuhan every day since it has over 10 million people|1 What are people around you saying in terms of how underplayed this whole thing is Do you see people panicking or no|0 I would not worry they havent got a leg to stand on and I also think if it is going to be as bad as they say It will be forgotten there will be much more to contend with You did the right thing IMHO I hope you both stay safe with what is coming take care|1 Honestly calling Trump out on cutting staff is right Having republicans spit non sense is a problem Calling the virus a conspiracy theory well hey if his loyal followers believe this oh well|1 WHO is the last one to know itWHO cares|1 That was also 100 years ago Im sure the human race has better hygiene and protocols against such issues I dont believe this will get that out of hand If you wanna be scared be scared People were not nearly as educated back then as they are now I also live in the US I know theres a lot of unhealthy people but the majority is healthy|1 What a world We have a pandemic and motherfucking Ohio is leading the chargeProps OhioEdit This didnt mean to be a post dumping on Ohio Im a born and bred midwestern so I am proud of my brethrenI am surprised that Ohio is on the forefront of using logic to identify the true magnitude of this pandemic seems silly to type our|1 Anyway Im not really going to argue this but we know Canadas contact tracing works well enough to slow it to the point it has If it didnt then we would be in the same situation as the USA right nowWe dont know that at all And contact tracing is absolutely not the reason we have less cases than the US Its because were not testing and because they have way more people in the us and thus way more travel Also known sick people were sent back there Furthermore we have a higher rate of cases per capita so not sure where youre getting the idea that were somehow in a better situationBC didnt make any particularly bad decision worse than any other province They just have the bigger concentration of people from affected areas so they are doing poorly Dont confuse being earlier in the process with being worse Our federal government is doing very very little to property deal with this|0 That means disinformation and propaganda will be at peak levels|0 The WHO has shown over the past month they are worthless and pawns of the CCPAn argument can be made that the US withdrawing from multilateral organizations just plays into the hands of the CCP By taking your toys and going home you are ceding global leadership to the PRC|0 My Japanese friend told me that her friends who are businessmen in Japan were forced to continue their business trips to China in early Februaryinsanity|1 Autarky is a bad idea for tons of reasons the main being that you lose so much by trying to be completely independent Theres a reason why the first military goal in a conflict is to cut the enemys supply lines Which is why China is at grave risk in any extended conflict of a distant blockade that cuts off the Straits of Malacca and other approaches to the South China Sea Chinas artificial reefs in the SCS may be useful for area denial but are useless to keep open vital areas that can be closed by one US CVN in the Andaman Sea and one CVN south of JavaYou say autarky is a bad idea and then give an example of why it is a good thing Cutting supply lines is bad and if you are reliant on others for those supplies those can be cut Just ask Japan leading up to and during WW2 with their lack of steel production and Germanys inability to supply the fuel they needed Autarky means selfreliance and no one can cut you off short of an actual invasion The US with its size is one of the few countries that can actually do it|0 I think we are being very well served by the official numbers to be honest They are not a measure of the actual number of people infected but give us a really clear idea of where were at I personally think now is the time to start shutting down contact with the outside world as much as possible Im debating with my wife over exactly when and its difficult but the info coming out is really helpfulI could see a situation in the future where I no longer believe what were being told but for now it looks very plausible|0 Thanks for the replies It looks like tomorrows meal out is going to be cancelledpostponed anyway as several friends have contacted us to say they dont want to go until the coronavirus outbreak calms down I will still emphasise to my mum the importance of social distancing|1 Not amoral immoral|1 Wow|1 Yeah my husbands parents keep blowing us off about it my grand parents dont get online so they are more appreciative and listen His parents are in their 60s and mine are in there mid 70s|1 Excellent point|1 Most people here just think landlords are bloodsuckers with no value|1 Punish Europe and reward Brexiteers|1 Are you guys under directive to not diagnose via CT scan like China ended up doing Why are we relying on these tests and not the experienced judgement of individuals such as yourself|1 So which one do we want and where do we buy it|1 It is crazy right Here in catalunya the public is still casual even while schools close and towns go in quarantaine I still dont get the lack if urgency It will spread It will be bad China and Italy prove this much Borders are just lines on a piece of paper to a virusI fear for Europe and the US right now|0 They dont think theyre being mean or condescending they just dont want to admit to themselves things are gonna get shitty Theyre in denial dont take it personally|0 This number will go down Annual flu deaths go down when the US does a survey to figure out the number of mild flu cases Stay hopeful|0 Next theyre gonna be angry at you Because they were wrong cant admit it and this someone else must be at fault|0 I assume its because you cannot enter anywhere like subway bus taxi or destinations without some sort of barcode on your phone not 100 sure about this|0 Actually the translation isSOME people are too dumb to properly use the masks Those who arent too dumb are being insanely selfish short sighted because theyre prioritizing their own personal CONVENIENCE over what will amount to matters of LIFE DEATH for thousands of others|0 Are you being serious right now No ones healthcare system can deal with 10 of the population being in the ICU and it would be unnecessary to have that much capacity 999 of the time I dont care how good your healthcare system is A pandemic will always completely overwhelm your infrastructure unless your China and build hospitals to deal with it|0 Haha that is not the Korea of today At all You just help doesnt apply to strangers|1 I am in las vegas Alot of departments from mgm resorts did temporary lay offs Crazy|0 Its crazy We were told to work from home if we had a local case Well over the weekend we had a case very local to us same city I called to ask if I should come in Monday or start working from home I was told to come in because there is a meeting on distracted drivers|0 I was a northerner living in Houston during Katrina and Rita I was the clueless girl in line with 2 grocery items who suddenly realized everyone around her had cartloads of water and batteries I called my boss and she said Uh yeah we are evacuating 40 horses tomorrow morning|0 Just cant have anything nice|0 Also primary care doctors are going to be exposed to the virus and many will choose to work with their patients in hospital or volunteer to help on the virus wards It is going to severely degrade care for manageable conditions like diabetes If the pharmaceutical supply chains break thats even worse|1 Yes Were fucked No more chance to contain this shit|0 This Johns Hopkins one is great and reliablehttpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 Because the news would go wild if Disney became an epicentre USA confirmed cases multiply by 20x due to Disney World Sounds pretty bad worse than being closed|0 Hopefully the networks Comcast Spectrum ect can handle the load of everyone working from home or chilling hardcore This is one of the reasons they should have been upgrading infrastructure instead of throttling consumers|1 Misremembered the figure thank you|1 Italy is only testing critical ICU now so these numbers are not accurate|0 I got laughed at for wearing gloves out last night|1 The providers EHR literally will ask them to order Prevnar 13 every time they order your immune suppressant medications if it is set up correctly|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our 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within 2 weeks The battle against the virus has entered the last phase Please do not spread misinformation and do not cause panic Everything is under control|1 this can hardly be a surprise to anyone anymore Why is this bought up in every single thread like it has some shock value|1 I need to research this I had no idea|0 Can we fuck off of other peoples money|0 Chinas just doing as much damage control as they can now theyre trying to make themselves look like the good guys before everyone remembers everything|1 Well when the other option is the collapse of your whole sanitary system and a quarantine for the whole country with incredible damage for the economy The choice is pretty simple to me|0 Trump only cares about TrumpHe is inflecting yet another humanitarian crisis against the American people Puerto Rico caging children and nowWe need wage worker and healthcare protections and we need it now However the grim truth is he does not have the capacity as a human being or a statesman to act effectively and decisively|0 Hes also a really nice guy generally and will go out if his way to give autographs and pictures with fans|1 Absolutely Been perfect or at least near perfect for years|1 The difference with those other diseases it is they have a much lower survivability|0 Some of them r0 funny though|1 Um hey Bill we are neighbors and I um know your smart and rich and all but good sir we are about to be Wuhan 20 in seattle Can we help ourselves first maybe Thats what they tell us to do on the plane with oxygen masks|1 Macron should take this seriously He is young but his groomerboomer wife is in the risk group|0 Trust me bro its only old people that die s|0 Its the encyclopedia anyone can editWhile some articles on there are of good quality do not believe everything you read on Wikipedia Wikipedia is great for getting a general overview of a topic but not much more|1 North Central KS Most people seem unconcerned Went to Target a few days ago and nothing was sold out in terms of disinfectant toilet paper sanitizer|0 That information is released its not just written in a neat little sound bite for western journalists|1 Thats a problem with stupid Canadians not an issue with the government shift your anger from the government over to those people|0 Sending the hubby tomorrow thanks|1 No Im on the bus now and hearing people saying its just the flu just another strain etc They dont care|0 We could ALL be working from home and not a damn thing would change You get fewer interruptions at home It takes time to get productive again after being interrupted so a 5 minute interruption results in more than 5 minutes of lost work|0 Hell yeah Lets go Korea|0 I cant agree more every word 100|0 Believe me if employers want an active infected Covid19 person working for them in the office or interacting with customers you probably dont want to be working for them Better route Please talk to your HR department if this happens to you|1 Im generally open minded when it comes to whoever our leadership is but dear god its just so cringey listening to him speak US being a leader and number one Really South Korea is miles ahead of us in terms of testing and proactive measures Granted they are in proximity of China but thats a clear cut example of what we need to implement No need to reinvent the damn wheel Cant imagine what his next four years will be like Yea I said it Get out and vote ya hooligans if you dont want him in office|1 Its way less than 17 There was 3497 new case yesterday So its either a plateau or they reached max testing capacity|1 What are your thoughts on the risks of autoinoculation from wearing a mask Wouldnt they increase the risk of an infection moving from the throat to the lungshttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200308coronavirusnearsfataltippingpointwhenlungsareinflamed leading to a severe illness|0 then u die of asphyxiation|0 Link to the 39 year old marathon runner Source please|1 20 new cases my ass its obvious they are hiding shit like 95 of the countrys worldwide or maybe im just a pesimist and turk and nepal actually have less cases than aruba and the faroe islands|0 Dont we have to think about how long people will actually stay in quarantine once it is started There is a practical and psychological aspect which we seem to be glossing over for economic and best theoretical approach reasonsEdit found an explanation httpsmobiletwittercomjeremycyoungstatus1239975682643357696 and the study mentioned The deal seems to be that suppression with intermittent breaks works well if the breaks are short enough so they dont allow the virus to be widely established AND IF the approach is used all the way until a vaccine is found The result of alternative approaches are disasters of varying but staggering magnitudeThats all I needed Keeping this kind of study to just leadership doesnt help accomplish the task|0 Almost 20 days later and some of these are ringing true I just stumbled upon this sub|1 Yes but theres over 600 million other cases out there|1 Some guy said that you need to literally plastic wrap your toilet to stop it What a scientific reference by me btw Still gonna start closing my lid tho|0 I appreciate this I am glad your post is still up in here and verified and all thatAlready hoarding alcohol So I wont bug volunteers for a least a week Hmmm Better go buy some more Its greatdoesnt expirelike ever|1 For Americans North Korea is functionally a 4 if there was a 5 itd be therein a particular status that within the past 20 years or so only Cuba and Iran have likewise been in its actually illegal as an American to travel there and ones passport is legally invalid unless youve had explicit endorsement by the State Department|0 You might find this article about asymptomatic spread interesting it mentions some specific case examples and also talks about the biogen conference that appears to have caused a super spreading eventhttpswwwcnncom20200314healthcoronavirusasymptomaticspreadindexhtml|1 I am for sure I had a fever of 995 sore throat fatigue chills and muscle aches yesterday Today my chest hurts and I have a wheezy cough sometimes Husband still thinks Im worrying about nothing because my fever didnt hit 100 and is gone today Arrrgh|0 lol gotcha I didnt realize actual alcohol was ethonol but now that makes sense Right now I have 99 isopropyl 2 gallons of it|1 I think your hatred is justified but I think uchriswmf is right in his viewpointsx200Band something for food of thought Taiwan back then did botch SARS handling too I remember as a young tween watching news of doctors and medical staff dying as my parents read Taiwanese news regularly Both cases are not commendable and deserve criticism as they due but do try to stand back and assess each news report critically As someone who volunteerhelps to assess whether each corona virus news reportvideo are legit the anger does not help our cause and it burden our work too|0 Oh thank you so much for the information Thank you for the article as well Will get to reading it |1 oh thank god|1 I have been unable to find any cdc release or what have you that they declared an endemic in Seattle area No news article Nothing Just this one Q and A written by Bertha in community affairs of the regional hospital or health care system evergreen Makes me a bit suspicious that evergreen got this wrong either by mistake or on purpose|0 Yup if its the case it will be a surprise especially after Hancocks comments which was just deflating|1 We havent had those going around at all My school district is prepping TERRIBLY for it Its only even been brought up once and nowhere in it did they note concern for the students health The only thing mentioned the one time it was brought up was things like how inconvenient it would be to get cancelled and how the process of testing forgiveness goes them mentioning that coaches should talk to the principal individually to figure out what to do about practices should we get cancelled which to me means theyre not cancelling practices otherwise there would be no need Were cancelled Theyre not playing They havent given out hand sanitizer educated students on how to keep themselves healthy They even went as far as telling us NOT to tell students about the fact that we have a contingency plan for school My idea for the food for students that cant get there to get food My idea would be to still provide food for those that CAN get there either by car or by walking but for those that cant run the bus routes that would typically run but as a food drop off instead of student pick up The students have to get to school somehow everyday regardless whether its bus car or walk If its car or walk they can do that to get to food If its bus running the bus routes as a food drop off would cover the rest|0 Thats right the rocks are not to blame|1 Thanks for posting this Im excited to see this picking up some traction If you have any feedback or input just let me know|1 We definitely have a similar filter for commenting and posting not sure what number of days it is though|1 So tired of all this winning|1 I wish it was that can be treated fairly simply with antibiotics these days|1 The was talking about long term like years This virus is not going away Every quarantine has to be lifted at one point The mitigation cannot be kept up for years So from the R0 we can predict that 6070 have to be immune hopefully mostly from a vaccine to give herd immunity to the rest who might to respond to the vaccine enough due to illnessold ageYes it is a worst case scenario but a plausible one It is less the question how many but more how quickly|1 You verbage of Infected today is confusing as it does not represent the number of new infections but the number of new positive tests|1 Everyone is the hero in their own story and dont really believe itll happen to them specifically|1 Coworkers who made fun of me for the past month are now asking for adviceEdit first gold for me thanks kind stranger|1 People are not hording masks the masks were all bought up by Chinese daigou for reselling them in China Its the same reason its hard to find baby food when China fails to keep its food supply nonlethal|0 Wouldnt you want to say something more if it costs you nothing|0 You can thank me by spreading the word and getting more people involved with distributed computing|1 Correct me if Im wrong but this isnt good right|0 Im not a professional in any healthcare setting but it seems like its possible Idk How are all these cases exploding everywhere Some is from community spread|1 Every plague needs it scapegoats|0 Congratulations |1 Funny but a waste of a mask someone can use it properly|0 Oh wow its juste like FranceStage 1Stage 2Stage 25Stage 299Stage 2 The returning|1 This whole time we were making fun of Chinas control Seems like we are no different|1 Second that Putting this on frequent alerts I think the US is not prepared tho|0 They said healthy young people shouldnt worry about going but people with health conditions and elderly should not goBecause the young people totally wont spread the disease in their communities if one person happens to become infected on the cruise Yeah sure the young people most likely will be fine but fuck their communities lets promote the spread of the virus|1 Carl get yer mask and get back to yer quarantined room nowFree masks now thats a bargain|1 I see cars of visitors and nurses smoking at the entrance No signs of anything unusual They probably will introduce protective measures quickly if a new cluster emerges nearby but doesnt look its the case right now|0 Im a type 1 diabetic myself that sounds like a weird series of events What did you mean by undiagnosed but previously controlledWas he actively treating his diabetes or not|1 Lockdown as in no one would be allowed out of their houses under any circumstance There would be martial law in effect if they announced that many would die|0 Um No COVID19 has a much higher Ro then the flu meaning its much much more transmissible |0 THIS NEEDS TO BE ON TOP OF THE SUBREDDITIs there a post about this|1 Shocking that CNBC a website based in the US would discuss the financial situation of Americans Where is its indepth coverage of the financial effects of COVID19 on the Maldives huh|0 For a while its going to be like this That doesnt mean you cant talk to people and be around them Just be careful and alert|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpwwwcnncom20200314healthcoronavirusasymptomaticspreadindexhtmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 It is proven that placebos help Lets use all the placebos in our reach praying meditating staying calm eating healthy taking vitamins and washing hands |1 Its the CFR case fatality rate being compared which examines the cases severe enough to require medical care It doesnt matter how many mild cases there are with CFR|0 Awesome story and post I wish everyone could read this and consider these peoples circumstances|1 Yeah I really like the guy and hopes he makes it I understand the pitfalls of celebrity culture but he seems like a really decent human being|1 All the kids who are not the offspring of healthcare workers Slow the spread They had to solve problem 1 which is preventing the hospitals from being overwhelmed Overall its still good and organizing daycare of medically necessary personnel is a lot easier then having all those little snots spreading it quickly through the entire state|1 I dunno Im only about five comments down and Im laughing like anything Its quality reading material if nothing else|1 Of course this is worse That was an isolated incident in one country This is literally affecting the entire world|0 I dont know that theres more than one strain of this hope not but the way the Chinese jammed everyone together almost guaranteed that people would come down with multiple viruses at the same time cold corona flu etc|0 Still restrictions on who can be tested anecdotally Id love some honesty and transparency here|1 My school seems bent on doing the bare minimum recommended by CDC guidelines|1 Spanish flu reemerged much worse the following winter correct|0 I havent checked into this sub in a couple days but last time I did they lean pro trump I wonder how many have to die before he starts losing his die hard supporters If theres a body count threshold for them to admit hes a fuck up who views his voters as disposable Hes put the stock market first from the start of this because its his best re election hope Downplaying this refusing WHO test kits making testing hard They defend him and say dont politicize it their way of saying leave my daddy alone but as the virus creeps closer to their friend and family maybe theyll admit his failures Or maybe theyll be cool with their grandma getting dumped into a mass grave as long as it owns the libs and keeps their NYC slick talker silver spoon fed draft dodging multiply bankrupt very unchristlike fat daddy in the White House|0 No it really isnt|0 A guy in my friends circle who is always a conspiracy nut is likeits not worse then the flu it only affects people who are like 80 and claims there are people who get the coronavirus injected for money|1 Would a drug with a very high LD50 that inhibits viral replication has antiinflammatory properties and can be inhaled directly into the lungs work Cannabinoids especially THC have demonstrated antiinflammatory and immunosuppressive activityhttpswwwresearchgatenetprofileAlirezaTahamtan2publication277959441EffectsofcannabinoidsandtheirreceptorsonviralinfectionsThecannabinoidsandviralinfectionlinks5a2d373545851552ae7edfe0EffectsofcannabinoidsandtheirreceptorsonviralinfectionsThecannabinoidsandviralinfectionpdfAdditional linkhttpswwwmdpicom14248247361873THC has been shown to inhibit viral replicationhttpsbmcmedicinebiomedcentralcomarticles10118617417015234In states where it is legal 90 pure cannabinoid products for volatilization and inhalation are available and widely used|0 i reddited more from work bc i was so paranoid about being forced to take the subway and being in the city all i could think about was the virusnow im home and can actually focus on work|0 Or people are overreacting Most cases are mild or with no symptomsThis is incorrect Most cases 80 do not require hospitalization but that does not mean no symptoms This can be anything up to and including walking pneumoniaThe death rate is not 20x that of the regular flu like we are seeing when people claim its a 2 death rateIts a 36 death rate actually and a 2 rate would indeed be 20x flu death rate|0 Emergency doctor about corona We see people in their thirties with no medical history images of lungs are terrifyingYounger healthy people can also be hard hit by the new coronavirus Emergency doctor Ignace Demeyer of the OLV hospital in Aalst warns about this The lung scans of patients entering his shift are downright terrifying Dr Demeyer said in TerzakeGianni Paelinck 2048No it is not only the elderly or people who already have a medical problem who fall victim to the new coronavirus Emergency doctor Ignace Demeyer warns about this We see people with a blank medical history who are very ill It is also not just about older generations We have had very few older people inside so far says Dr Demeyer We now have people between the ages of 30 and 50 coming inThey all have the same complaints says Dr Demeyer They have been sick for a week stayed home with the flu The flu attack is over they think They feel fine for two days And then they report with complaints of a dry cough and shortness of breath When we then have their oxygen saturation level of oxygen in our blood ed we see that they have very low oxygen saturations for their age At that time a clear alarm goes off to the doctors that it concerns problem patients but people themselves do not always realize it because they do not feel very ill at the time They just walk in but they are terribly affected by the virus Emergency doctor Demeyer also shows scans of the lungs of such a corona patient The images we took yesterday are nothing short of terrifying Inflammatory fluidThe picture on the left shows normal lungs In the second photo there are already alveoli that are 20 to 25 percent filled with inflammatory fluid The third scan is one step worse it contains 80 to 90 percent inflammatory fluid Those people can of course still heal but it is a lifethreatening situation And they are people who do not smoke they have no other condition such as diabetes or heart failure They are sporty young peopleVirologist Steven Van Gucht shares that concern That is one of the reasons why we advised the government to implement those drastic measures and why we ask everyone to follow them strictly Doctor Demeyer calls absolutely irresponsible behavior that some young people still do not see the seriousness and organize parties or go on weekends|0 In general I resent the whole hey stop trying not to die it wont work and also I need those not to dieI know they think we are all stupid and many of us are but cmonAlso in other news ANY mask is better than no mask so whatever you can use dont be ashamed of protecting yourself The faster we normalize covering our nosesmouths in public the faster we flip the narrative and noncoverers will be shamed a hankie tied around every cough or sneeze would be very helpful|1 This is fucking crazy Forprofit healthcare at its best|1 When you say panicwhat exactly do you mean What Im trying to understand is what is your definition of panic zone Panic usually means wild and uncontrollable or wild thoughts What Ive seen on reddit is people hoping for the best while preparing for the worst Prepping doesnt equal panic it equals being prepared My father always use to say your lack of planning isnt my emergency and I think many people here dont want to be a burden to the system or their families if SHTF They want to be able to take care of themselves and their family I truly believe that there are some people that literally have to tell themselves that everything will be fine else they will themselves freak out and be unable to cope or make a decision Prepping is the opposite of that its making an assessment of the risk and trying to mitigate that|0 I know several people currently abroad who are returning to the uk throughout the week theres no restrictions anywhere all say the fell fine so will be living life like normal|1 New update 400 million people will die by next weekEDIT Sorry folks but its 400 billion they just updatedEDIT2 400 trillion |0 What you linked doesnt support the idea that fevers can be dangerousHeres all the evidence that fevers are selflimiting and beneficial to fighting infection Seizures are not prevented with fever reduction techniqueshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4145646|0 I was having some concerns for the homeless during this pandemic until my husband told me he saw a bunch of them all drinking from the same big bottle of beer and passing smokes around yesterday Theres only so much concern one could have for those who have no concern for themselves|0 Yeah OK but I dont want my parents to die for your mythical cult of Darwinism you asswipe Edit For the low bandwidth people I am being sardonicThats a bit hard to tell when youre just saying things other people say for real|0 This is reassuring as my girlfriend is 354 weeks pregnant|1 we will just get back to this post in few months a year ok|1 Is often is this updated I have been looking for something like this Thank you|1 What good are civil liberties when you or your loved ones are dead|1 Im a what if person also I do know how to do various things thanks to my upbringing and lived without many of our basic needs at one point in my life So I learned how to adapt and make do and find different ways of doing things with what I had It wasnt always easy but I made it through|1 I hope your family gets better soon I cant imagine the emotional stress that this has caused them I truly pray for their steadfast recovery and I hope that they are able to communicate sufficiently with their nursesstaff and dont feel misunderstood|1 If you give a source like I did Ill consider it but the timeline I posted is from Chinese investigative journalists who sought out this information not on second hand rumours from villagers|0 I know who my most retarded friends are now|0 Sounds like the Romans too Or for that matter any of the times Chinese empires have collapsed in the past|1 I use the binhex delugevpn docker Container to BitTorrent through a VPN running on a server If youre stuck indoors with nothing to do and are technically inclined go check rhomelab|0 Ive played this game before|1 Poor Tesla shorters|0 It was probably when David Bowie left us 10 days later Trump became president and shit got weird|0 Exactly This is going to be bad As you are quickly seeing The banks can only do the bare minimum if that Im currently trying to figure out what we are going to do And relying on the government or banks to bail us out is simply not going to happen We will stop paying immediately And when they show up at the door in about 6 months we will file for bankruptcy and drag that out as long as possible After that Who knows Maybe at that point the usd will be worthless anyway|0 Are there any studies looking at the difference in flu diagnosis and flu related deaths in Washington state from previous years Since they havent really been doing a lot of testing its possible some have just been missed Itll give a better approximation of how many people have been infected and how severe it actually is|0 It can But if youre not using them correctly then you might as well not wear one Which is where I think a lot of this ends up Most people just panic buy them without knowing how to use them consuming the available supply and taking them out of the hands of people that both definitely do need them and know how to use them If people want to go buy themselves a package of surgical masks then by all means Just know how to actually use one so that you benefit from it|1 Thanks for pointing out the obvious|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Great decision I went cold turkey coming up on 9 yrs now Took me a couple years Im sure before lungs were back to what is considered normal Developed a really rough smokers cough only after Id quit that stayed with me for about a year as well|1 I hate Amazon Theyre very invasive now THIS|0 US Surgeon General repeatedly ignored the simple question of how many tested Tried to push host off to CDC host mentioned CDC removed data from site httpswwwcnncomvideoshealth20200308surgeongeneraljeromeadamscoronavirustestkitsusjaketappersotuvpxcnnhttpswwwcnncomvideoshealth20200308surgeongeneraljeromeadamscoronavirustestkitsusjaketappersotuvpxcnn|0 China caused this They bought us time from something they started Thanks|1 They may not be intentionally underreporting but they continue to make claims that are unverifiable at best Yesterday the health minister said the virus was spreading without symptoms and getting stronger statements that might be true but which they didnt provide any data to other countries about True or just something said in the press conference Nobody knowsAnd then they are going on about how this will be treated with antiHIV medicines which again I hope to God theyre right but they havent bothered to release trial data proving itWho can trust them|1 Yep I started prepping two weeks ago and was openly ridiculed for it But now I dont have to worry about heinous lines shortages in my pantry and not expose myself further to flu or cornoavirus I also have a garden with fresh organic salad greens and am ready to plant tomatoes and peppers next week I think as a society we need to rethink having kitchen gardens|1 Yes thats grammatically correct Can mean both it had and it would|1 Yep The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was a lot more devastating than the first wave The good news for us if this is true is that if the cases fall in the summer we will either have a better chance of containing it or we will have an easier time getting prepared for it to possibly return in the winter The knowledge we have now vs then is insanely different and will allow us to track it much better|1 Internal reports indicate that the current accuracy of the testing kits used in Korea is between 9598 Reports about inaccurate kits were from the early days in Wuhan when the government failed to enact quality control on over 1000 companies who were approved to produce testing kits|0 People like him needs to punished asap to discourage any future violators|0 No twice per day would be totally acceptable This is fucking inhumane|1 Its insane that people need to be told Bizzare that people still feel its not going to be me Madness|0 Do you think delivery or meal plan services are safe to use If so do you disinfect the containers after bringing them inside|1 Are they these comparative leaders you reference misspelling the virus name Calling it a mere flu Saying its possible and many are doing it going to work with it Are they nonstop tweeting about the merits of their own response to protect and set the narrative to their own impending election Everyday several times per dayI voted for the guy but see him as a huge chaotic disappointment Everything he touches turns to poop under the light of timeWe will see how this works out I wish us all the best|1 I hope you are right And stay safe|1 But will Tom Hanks be around to play Tom Hanks in any of these films|1 Cant you just say youve been to Italy I mean screw being honerable at this point|0 They just showed a town in China not having water I would imagine if enough people are sick services will start to shut down Because you arent just sick for 3 days Youre sick then no one even knows at this point how long you will be sick when you wont be contagious anymore and now it appears you can get it again This is like a virus from hell What about police and fire No one here is immune|0 My university in France Strasbourg has already sent out something saying that if you are returning from certain countries or the Veneto and Lombardy regions in Italy were on winter break right now then we cant go to campus for 14 days and well have excused absences from all our classes Right now Im in Rome until Sunday so itll be interesting to see how this plays out I wonder if the universities will just straight up close And I wonder if my university may extend that rule to Rome soon lol|1 Yeah Im betting we will look back and say why didnt we all lock down when Italy did and they wont be unique nor uniquely terrible|1 There is prob a high chance they exchange saliva via eaingdrinkingkissing|1 Proof please|1 Sounds like your getting sick may need some time off |0 Ah gotcha And Im not trying to argue against you but rather just educate the people not you who still stubbornly want to insist that COVID19 is no big deal|0 You have great controlI cannot get through a sentence without blasting Trump if he is the topic Well done to you and well put|1 My grandmother has congestive heart failure Im gonna follow this closely so I know what I might expect|0 If the US gov wont do it hopefully all the other airlines will on their ownThey wont|0 what if the bodies were lying thox200Bwhat if the coronavirus makes corpses lie|0 Oh no Not Hot Topic What ever will I do without Hot Topic|0 Someone with symptoms and travel history to an affected region is a prime candidate for testing|0 Except that he was one of the first to ban flights from China and got shit on by everyone else for doing so Not to mention that information from China was shit and was touted by WHO as gospel and the CDC ate it up and regurgitated it to TrumpSo basically your anger is misdirected China is mostly to blame then WHO then the CDC Trump isnt a fucking doctor or virologist He RELIES on the CDC to give him good info so he can make better decisions That didnt happen and this is the situation we are inContinuing on the what if line of thought IF China gave out accurate numbers on infecteddeathsserious conditions and IF they allowed reports of this infection to be public instead of trying to bury it for 3 weeks and IF they had allowed medical experts from other countries to review their data SOONER we wouldnt be in this situationI also got ready in January|0 Because the stock market will actually tank hard while Trump is in office|0 Haha this guy doesnt know how to use the three seashells|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 Kids are selfish and dumb Theyll be the ones to kill off their grandparents|0 Not to invoke rconspiracy here but maybe now we all understand why the media and governments have all overblown this virus compared to other recent epidemics because its not being overblown at all the severity of it has been hidden from the public to avoid panic|0 The way I have understood this is that you can only get unemployment if youre fired I doubt that me getting fired would happen either|0 Right now its something to watch but its far from the apocalypse Either it could explode tomorrow or it will fizzle out we dont know enough about the extent of the viruses ability to spread via h2h transmission to judge It could be as simple as a touch or longterm sustained contact|1 I dont think they want to die I think theyre just boomers|0 Patient confidentiality People dont want to be seen when they are sick|0 To know is always better no matter what the answer might be|1 Great news|1 Criminal|0 An innovative breath collecting device developed by academics at Northumbria University Newcastle could revolutionise the way we diagnose diseases such as the newly emerged strain of coronavirus COVID19 Northumbria University secured regional support and funding for the next stage of product and business development of technology which enables diagnosis of disease through breath collection To date systems that diagnose from breath sampling have not proven to be reliable enough due to contamination sample loss and variability issues in breath analysis However the new device resolves these issues so that the data collected through this pioneering invention closely resembles results from lung samples taken surgicallySounds like they only figured out how to collect samples in this way but not the detection part Given that COVID19 can be sampled through nasopharyngeal swab it doesnt look like breathbased sampling has any advantages|1 Nope Im pro all those things except tradition Things being tradition arent inherently valuable and tradition often gets in the way of progress Tradition is the enemy of scienceAre you proud of your hatred Do you miss White Power You and your life are patheticEdit You seem to be antigrammar as well so it seems youre antieducation|0 Locking down heavily infected regions avoid that and allows the rest to send helpStep 1 Ensure a lockdown wont actually make it worseBefore reacting reflexively we should carefully think through the secondary and tertiary effects as well as unintended consequences of sudden drastic actions across our deeply interconnected systems Its entirely possible an action that seems beneficial on the surface could suddenly swing the other way due to unforeseen interactions This is common when dealing with highly complex multiplylinked chaotic systems Before possibly leaping from the pan into the fire wellinformed domain experts should develop a consensus model of the actual probable and possible costs medical economic systemic social and even psychological We can then map those estimates into multiple variance analyses showing the consequences broken out by the degree and duration of whatever flavor of lockdown we adopt These models will almost certainly reveal tipping points at which some critical parameters enter nonlinear response curves with the very real possibility of runaway positive feedback loops resulting in calamitous consequences from which there is no return ie ending a lockdown that triggered a meltdown cant stop the meltdown it started BTW if you have the staff and resources of the CDC such an analysis can take less than a day for a first approximation Im pretty sure theyve already done this and were seeing the answerStep 2 Compare against alternate solutionsThen we should compare Plan Panic Lockdowns costs in manpower disruption money panic etc its multivariate risks against alternatives like Plan Engineered Solutions which few people seem to be considering Namely assigning teams of our best engineers and logistics gurus to show us how to quickly and locally create thousands more temporary PPEs mechanical ventilators and any other items which might be resourcelimited Keep in mind PPEs and mechanical ventilators have been around a long time and are not that complex The design goals can optimize for a timetocompletion b wide regional availability of components c ease of assembly and finally d low cost The bar the engineers need to meet is quite low since they are competing against a default option of widespread sustained Wuhanlevel lockdown which certainly costs many billions of dollars probably triggers a multiyear worldwide economic depression and possibly puts scenes of soldiers firing into rioting mobs on the evening news Remember the engineers who during the tsunami crisis designed in less than 24 hours a way locals could make thousands of neonatal ICU infant incubators using standard automotive parts already available across Indonesia and the Philippines and they were powered by car batteries because no power In the same way our MIT Apple SpaceX etc nerds would leverage common mechanical assemblies that already exist in every region including pumps tubing and interconnects One or two specific parts could be 3D printed locally if necessary Any necessary microcontrollers in existing hospital versions can be replaced by custom mobile phone apps Also existing medicalrated equipment is overengineered to endure heavy use for many years with MTBF requirements counted in fivenines These devices only need to work during a surge of 812 weeks and start being available about four weeks from now Even if the inservice failure rate is 5 we just make more and keep spares on hand at each hospital If this somehow seems unlikely I suggest rewatching the part in the film Apollo 11 that shows how a small team of 1960s NASA engineers figured out in a matter of hours how astronauts could juryrig a device from random items in their tiny capsule that saved them from suffocating in space the design even used a Bic pen tube and worked perfectly the first timeNow how certain are we about pulling a lever that triggers deep unknown consequences Remember its a lever we may not be able to unpull I suggest we pause for a few days since theres no sign of Hospocalypse even starting in North America yet to consider less costly and less deadly nonpanic alternatives that come with zero chance of triggering a societywide slide into martial law Personally Id prefer our nearterm future to be more like Apollo 11 than Mad Max Thunderdome|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra 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school buying high speed train and air ticket getting internet service and tons of other publicprivate service It will also affect the scores of your friends and families if they interact with you online It could be worse than jail if you live in China Im not sure how much of these they have implemented but these were the things they experimented in the past|0 right now theres a bigger danger of getting salmonella or a tapeworm than coronavirusDoubt|0 So stop moaning and get walked all over What a great idea American industrial relations standards are so weird|0 Exactly I find it amusing that people truly believe the US government just ignored the virus and didnt bother thinking about the appropriate response The US didnt become the wealthiest most powerful nation on earth by dumb luck Im sure the experts determined it was already in the US and containment was not possible Limiting panic truly might be the best response Can you imagine if half the country tries to visit a doctor or ER to get tested|1 Yep Ill look funny in my respirator but who cares|1 If it does kill via cytokine stormIt does not as it kills more old than young These guys are likely the outliers|0 Hello from Germany I read the early articles in China and went to the physician of my 85y parents I translated some of it and asked for HQ prevention and received an off label prescription We agreed on 200mg per week for 4 weeks and then 200mg every second week The drug is cumulating and has a halflife of 45 days My parents have taken 4 times 200mg so far and have accumulated more than 600mg so far We are doing this because the high acute dose of up to 1200mg during 2 days is too much for them to take They have been exposed a few times and have no issues so far No side effects recognized The dose is very very low compared to all other known applications other than malaria prevention where it is said to be 400mg week HQ is also now one of the main drugs used in Belgium for severe caseshttpsepidemiowivispbeIDDocumentsCovid19COVID19InterimGuidelinesTreatmentENGpdf|0 Please stay home Dont listen to your doctor Dont take any risks|1 Is HK considered first world The worst fecal matter related transmission of SARS happened in HK And the only suspected fecal matter related transmission of SARSCOV2 also happened in Hong Kong|0 I really dont understand your point or why are people siding with you If you think is easy to verify while being french its obviously harder for me to look for sources in french then it should be easy to post that verification without being snarky even if it is in french we at least know that we are reading something that can be verified by other people and not just a random fearmongering comment on reddit If people start downvoting other people asking for sources in this subreddit thats not a good path to take subreddits like is where veridic information should be encouraged not frowned upon thats literally the only difference between a conspiracy sub and a good news outletAnyways thanks for the sources op|1 Mind you that it isnt just them being young what other dieseases that they had before they contracted the virusya but people who also thinks that this is just a common flu is just beyond stupid|0 Centralized production to a single country what could go wrong Yay globalism|1 Its the same kind of people saying Lets vote for so and so just to make the democratsrepublicans cry Theyre not confidence in the government theyre just stuck in this idea that they are right and the other side is wrong under any circumstance|0 I dont smoke marijuana anymore and use tincture instead However I stopped all use in preparation for the virus since I think some study found that it might have an immunodepressent effect and it raises blood pressure Both are bad if you get COVID19 I might be wrong and you should do your own research but the safest thing to do is to stop all use in my opinion|0 Yesterday I heard Its just a bad flu|0 Only ignite if drinking the everclear fails Last resort only|0 TotallyI suppose maybe an argument could be made that it would be ineffective to restrict travel from Italy because Italians can easily go to other EU countries to fly out though I dunno|0 To be fair if Im driving on the interstate Im not going to be drinking out of a 2 liter bottle|1 The best Korea|1 Yes|1 Agree I been able to slowly load up supply and food without run into big panicking crowds Next week might be different tho|0 Whos that and why should I care more about this individual than my neighbor|1 They watched the cctv cam from the bus and the infected and infectee never came closer than 45 metres the entire time Good enough for me to act on|0 FFS This is so upsetting|0 Pretty sure thats what everyone is doing right now Theyll wait till a case is connected and then close schools Is it the right way to Handel it Of course not But Ive heard from friends across the country and so many are not communicating at all At least Fulton is and has a plan set in place|1 Lol yeah Theres so much we dont know yet Theres a really interesting discussion above where it appears these type of cases may be caused by overuse of antivirals the antivirals knock the infection down to subclinical levels instead of knocking it down for the immune system to beat and develop immunity against in these types of people So you get a negative test The person leaves care and as soon as antivirals are withdrawn the virus begins to replicate again and they suddenly appear reinfected|1 Youre not proving me wrong The 8B investment is a progressive approach to healthcare one that takes care of everyone as opposed to the sucks you have a job that doesnt give you healthcare ideology that usually dominates these antimedicareforall discussions|1 Plot twist Trump himself is a super spreader That would be perfect irony Same goes for the President of Brazil especially if his Corona status was a lie|1 Plus Bill Gates is probably the greatest human in history in terms of quantitative direct positive impact hes made on peoples lives Obviously more people have been more selfless and given a larger proportion of their money time and lifes work towards other people but the sheer scale of the positive impact that Bill Gates has had on the world is astounding Theres probably only one person who singlehandedly improvedsaved the lives of more people statistically is Fritz Haber who figured out how enrich fertilizer with Nitrogen which prevented a global hunger crisis of proportions the likes of which have never been seen before Ironically he then went on to invent weaponized chlorine gas and unleashed it himself on the battlefields of Belgium despite the explicit orders from the German command to never use such weapons His repeated use of such cruel weapons lead his wife and son to commit suicide Even more ironically he invented Zyklon A which was very easily repurposed into Zyklon B by the Nazis and used in the Holocaust while Haber had long been forced to flee to Britain as he himself was a Jew|1 This is the best news Ive ever heard Its time to stop rewarding bad business behavior and putting money into exec pockets after they act foolish|1 Having a BiPap and Oxygen concentrator onhand is a good insurance if hospitals are overrun You can sell them after this is over Both require a prescription|1 I am thinking because they plan to eat perishable food first So might as well grill some steaksOther random items included junk like safety pins shower curtains specific types of brands for things Its pretty normal for a shift but weird that people are thinking about coming to the store for this stuff right now|1 Thats not a good advice Risk is lower in young individuals yes Its not a risk is dangerous bullshit|0 When we see a picture of empty shelves that can feed a narrative and create a feeling of risk she told Gregor Craigie the host of CBCs host of On The IslandOne paragraph under a photo of bare shelves in a Vancouver Costco Yeah CBC youre contributing|1 a full mortgage pause wouldnt change the interest but even if it did it wouldnt change whats owed month to month after this by much|0 This sounds like a promising stopgap solution before a vaccine is discovered|1 Yeah this has nothing to do with race just location Id be avoiding people from any country that was having this problem|0 I would never take any medical treatment that was only conceived 60 days earlier but especially not for something like this virus It scares me that this even existsAnd the mechanism may depend on the relative concentration of antibodies like in dengue fever|0 People will remember for sure Until the next battle for toilet paper Come on this pandemia is showing the true face of society selfish as fuck Society will remember nothing|0 It doesnt help that theres so much rumor and speculation freely shared and consumed This is why I appreciate this sub above all others rn on Reddit|1 yes I noticed changing the number of hospital beds on the australian page didnt change it substantially 20 less beds just meant crisis day came 2 days earlier|0 Fuck the USA but you have to blind as a bat to not see the insane propaganda and evil practices of the PRCGenocide mass surveillance and societal control censorship and political manipulationI never commented on this article I have no idea but I know that China is just as bad as USA when it comes to propaganda|0 Yes Doing their JOB Maybe they needed that billion dollar budget to turn it back on|1 More confirmation to what has been reported before by others China really needs to come clean on this so the rest of us can deal with it effectively|1 tumericgarlic is great too|1 Its going to come to the point that hospitals have to step up security and hopefully the military can begin to monitor things Even with grocery stores at this point|1 Wuhan was shut down and they busses in 80000 medical staff from throughout China which limited any single Healthcare workers exposure|0 The third thing is it was created by Chinese communist vampire bats|1 Another great educational resource in addition the two that Mr Gates mentioned is Outschoolhttpsoutschoolcomabk7vdzqnw|1 Does losing ones soul make them stop taking|0 Its normally Times like these when it happens to be a literal butcher A nice guy who had a large farm and cut up a bunch of meat and donated it to needy families for free because of how absolutely wonderful of a person he wasTurns out this was the kind of butcher you assumed with your upvote but maybe you arent so lucky next time throwing around upvotes all willynilly like Haha|1 Welcome to the new norm some of us have been here all along We will show you the way Dont have children and if you do dont have anymore Protip from the rest of us down here|1 Thank you do you mind if I ask for the source of this quote|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thank you The Government Business Support team can be reached on 0300 456 3565|1 I feel the same Its been driving my anxious overthinking brain crazy and the last couple of days have been especially bad Our government has really fumbled this costing us valuable time But I think with people starting to acknowledge the seriousness of this situation it brings back a little feeling of control As shitty as these next weeks will be every effort people put in will help slow its spread Were in this together and I think the public is starting to see that|0 thx doesnt have much data There must be tons of data in China already collected and analyzed by them only isnt it a bit unfair to wait for them to release papers when instead they should be sharing the data straight away imagine what AI could do with detailed per patient data|1 The poster is correct except for two things You can have the disease before showing symptoms meaning you can give it to others through coughing and sneezing before you even think to wear a mask And sick people need to be in isolation rather than out wearing masks|0 We also export a lot of valuable things to the USA as well Oil natural gas wood products foodagriculture precious minerals electronics and machinery computer technology spacecraft cars etc If we needed we could bite back obviously not as hard but we could also hurt the US economy too They import nearly as much from us as they export to us 3201 billion in exports 3076 billion in imports Trump has utterly destroyed the USA and I feel like hes at the point where he is realizing he can only act out so much especially now that there is a deadly virus killing thousands upon thousands of peopleI would rather have Trump pissed off at us and throwing a bit of a hissy fit and cutting some exports to us as opposed to maintaining open borders with a country that is run by a bunch of clowns who are currently jeopardizing not only their own populace but the rest of the world in particular us Canadians Their response to this has been a disaster Theyve been so inept at testing that a Chinese billionaire had to donate half a million test kits and medical supplies Consider that the USA is now desperate enough that theyre receiving aide from China We risk having hundreds if not thousands of deaths and thousands more infected if we dont take action allowing this virus to spread even more and stress our medical and research capabilitiesWe may end up regretting not closing the borders The sooner the better The preservation of Canadian lives matters most|0 Youll be happy to know that others appeared for the ship on the John Hopkins map today Winner winner chicken dinner|1 Be sure to take your vitamins especially C and some D|1 Yep Im not mad she seems to be okay now Im not only protecting myself because Im immune compromised but also my daughter who is high risk and I want to be as healthy as I can so I can potentially go see my dad in the hospital|1 Never buy a falling knife|1 real nice of you|1 I rented an oxygen concentrator for like 30 just in case my parents will need it while healthcare is overloaded|1 That is simply heartbreaking My God Who did this to the world And why|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 And yet everyone is using them that deals with patients with virus and China made it mandatory to wear mask in publichttpswwwbbccouknewsworldasiachina51275896 in some of the worst affected cities|0 I have seen reports of the recommended course of treatment being outpatient for the severity of pneumonia observed|1 I hope USA treats flights like Israel is treating them We should have done that from the first report we received|1 They are absolute idiots Greedy sacks of garbage can they be investigated I REALLY think this is tied to the pandemic bonds maturing soon|0 Is Greggs really that goodAs a Devon native I am spiritually forbidden to try anything from Greggs so as not to offend our West Country ancestors|0 Large south west hospital here nothing confirmed here that Im aware of inside the hospital but we are not testing routinely like with MRSA every in patient gets tested for that immediately regardlessWe have nothing like that in place for CV yet|0 It only looks like doing well because there is at least a two week delay before most people get sick enough to go to the hospital and get testedThere were more new cases yesterday than there were total cases one week ago|0 No it wont China used this month to massively ramp test kit production and mask production The quarantine was just a delay action to buy time for the medicalscientific supply chains to ramp upChina used this month to ramp test kit production from 0 to 15 millionweek and mask production from 20 millionday to 180 millionday A month ago there were not enough masks to go around and not enough tests for suspected cases There were also not enough hospital spaces and little medical knowledge of how to treat infected individualsThis past month of quarantine has bought time to change all that New hospitals have been built new quarantine centers have been converted from hotels dorms convention centers and sports stadiums The overall capacity to do mass early detection and quarantine is vastly improved over the end of JanuaryThis past month also bought time for treatment trials to gather data and identify the most effective medical treatments for each stage of viral infection This is why mortality rate has now dropped dramatically from late JanuaryThe most sensationalist part of Chinas response was the quarantines which is what you see in the global media The part you dont see in the media is the massive national mobilization across all sectors of society|1 So no lockdownquarantine except for infectedexposed see below It mentions encouraging people to stay at home if at all possible But in the possible executive order sectionExecutive Order 60 Concerning the Isolation and Quarantining of Individuals and Property in Response to the Current Disaster Emergency EpidemicThis order empowers the FloridaDepartment of Health to establish maintain and enforce isolation of infected individuals and quarantine of exposed individuals as needed to protect the public health in an epidemic situationI wonder if that would do the trick I suppose its all down to how well you can control the outbreak at the very start This is probably why its a good idea to have a competent president with serious civil servants staffing key goverment departments|0 PA is doing the same exact thing We now have 63 cases but the numbers are increasing even with the limited number of testing There are hundreds of people with all the symptoms but they are not being tested Hopefully testing increases with Labcorp and Quest|0 What are you talking about He is furious they brought back infected people to the US|0 The rich people will save us Has that worked in the last 2000 years|1 Am a medical resident Not wrong at all A community hospital I just rotated off service from cut n95 masks to save money aka increase profits They have papr masks as an alternative which are reusable and technically safer but they only have 30 for the whole hospital We Are Fucked|0 Its Ok bro its just a fluHerd immunity400000 deaths is just population of EdinburghYoung recover but will permanent lung scarring and possible infertility problems for malesOver 50 of Intensive Care patients in France are young under 50yolo|1 Do you happen to know the number of tests done in NY so far I think it was 95 yesterday|1 Canadian here too Unforunately I became weirdly obsessed with the news between fall 2016 and 2018 But I could hardly stand to watch him so cringey Now Ive completely given up paying attention to anything American politics they are just hopeless |0 Thank you I am sorry I didnt read it more carefully|1 When its a legitimate truth the administration has ways to shut it down|1 Id like a remind me in 1 month to compare stats cause America is a melting pot of coronavirus stew right now and dinner is about to be served |1 I found a guy in another thread that would in fact do it by malice if he does get it Claims if he doesnt get paid leave hes going to go to work and let everybody gets sick for it I just hope its a sad troll and not someone actually that deranged|0 We get a number telling us to die|0 Good for themTeachers are honestly the backbone of American society|1 What world do we live in where you look down on business ownersThis view is so far from the truth Bright young dynamic men and women up and down the country should be encouraged to be masters of their own world not looked down upon as slave driversBusiness owners can also be driven by the personal need to be in control of how they spend their time|1 Im curious as to the rates for other age groups Anyone got a source|1 Congrats|1 Dumb question maybe Can you go for a walk during this sort of a quarantine|0 This Also turns out the tests arent free so really no point at the moment Source Im most likely sick as Ive been second hand exposed and showing symptoms Tried to get tested said fuck that shit when the insurance wasnt willing to give me a clear answer on whether they covered the cost or not Also gotta work at some point because no payed sick leave Shits gonna hit the country hard|0 Lets file that one under no shit Sherlock|0 Not a big deal at all Fighters are 1 on 1 Not like basketball where about 30 people total will physically interact They had doctors all over them this week for their weight cut and other possible issues As far as the teams go its no difference than people who are still going to work in a very small office|0 Adults are pretty gross tooHacking into fist AHEGHHEGHHEGH followed by shaking the hand of a coworker|1 Just a thought but we are living in the year 2020 Go back a hundred years to 1920 End of WW1 Spanish flu and major political and economic unrest follows Leading to the rise of Fascist and Communist parties x200BAre we in for a repeat of the early 20th century It is starting to look like it|0 I wonder when was the moment you realized its bad Like really really bad and that its too late to contain it|0 According to the government they will have ove 1 million tests ready this week and another next Can only tell you what i been reading throughout reddit and seeing on the local news|1 Fourteen day golf vacationThough in seriousness they would probably just say that hes selfisolating due to contact with someone who tested positive But given how this administration leaks if be surprised if the story held up|1 They will still need vitamins once they go past 10 days or theyre at risk of refeeding syndrome which at this scale will happen for some people So two weeks is early enough to begin killing the careless|0 Thankfully I work in a kitchen and just prep food and go home Were prepared for shutting down at any point though And my house is prepared for a month of isolation Too bad the rest of the town is trumploving morons|0 Well if the current POTUS were to pass the VP would be become president and the current VP is an evangelical science denier and the one the president put in charge of the US coronavirus response So no he would not take action|0 Or we could spend some money on I dont know FIGURING OUT THE TESTING CLUSTERFUCK and MAKING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEAD instead of leaving it to states and localities which are clearly not up to the task|1 Good Lord Who is handling this worse the US or the UK|0 Yes|1 Unless youre in the habit of letting strangers cough directly into your open mouth a bandana over your mouth and nose will only serve to make people think you are robbing them or about to start some shit Cotton fabric doesnt prevent you from inhaling particles in the airHows that|0 Yup Thats why I like numbers I want to find a Reddit for front line health workers in North America and elsewhere like Russia Ive noticed a trend This virus likes humid England is starting to report from the front lines Thats where I want to be In the know |1 The rich need to pay their share fullstop|1 You literally said immune in your post And noone who actually knows anything about the subject has said that Westerners are immune to this disease only that it may not be as serious due to less ACE2 receptors|1 Yes looking at the data if everything stays steady peak should be any day now|1 Exactly If you drive there is a good chance no one would ever know you were in Italy|1 Yeah because 1 35 mortality rate rightBut the flu has caused more deathsIts like Americans dont understand percentages and basic math|1 I have no clue but thats the protocol at our hospitals right now at all 150 of them|0 Campaign My family and I live in one of USAs largest cities and there has been no distancing campaign whatsoever Hand washing is the only campaign were seeing here There is SO MUCH more officials could be doing to prevent more spread Its shocking|0 No one should be panicking I am an Epidemiologist in one of the US jurisdictions with a case and we arent panicking so you shouldnt either |0 It is a very good decision Preventing the spread of the virus is the best way to fight with it I am really happy to see such a bald move butIm living in Poland and Im afraid its a bit of to rash move I dont think that situation will be any better after those 2 weeks From the other time if they extend the time of canceled lessons it might lead to big problems Another point is that the churches still remain open They even made the church meetings more often I am studying on medical university and we have no informations or any clue what is gonna happen right now The whole semester exams What is gonna happen to that As a midwifery student all we have are practical lessons which we need to do to be able to work in future In April we were suppose to have a practice hospital work for the rest of the semester All of those things are under huge question mark right now since we have no clue if we will be able to attend to hospital We also have no clue when will we do the missing hours If we are gonna have extended semester so we should cancel our holiday plans On holidays we were suppose to have holiday hospital practice 200h so if they change the semester length we wont have holidays at all|1 True but as far as meeting the standards for selling shipping and storing the manufacturers are out because they cant get the bottles But yeah for consumer just buy isopropyl|1 And young people weeks in IC are still suffering|0 Looks likes Wuhan in later Jan which testkits is insufficient But even at that time as I know the priority is base on symptoms severity|1 Who are the residents blaming for this outbreak The local gov as well as national gov Or just local|0 Yuck didnt know the Chinese ate cerebral palsy I thought food at my school cafeteria was bad|0 ABSOLUTELY Think about other people cancel your plans the world does not revolve around you|0 I will be messaging you in 12 hours on 20200316 135610 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003162013561020UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfjbhpaaneffectivetreatmentforcoronaviruscovid19fkm9efvcontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCOVID192Fcomments2Ffjbhpa2Faneffectivetreatmentforcoronaviruscovid192Ffkm9efv2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020031620133A563A1020UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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Of course you can look deeper as incubation and symptoms onset And probably indicates higherIts sad that people think holding back information until its out of control is a good ideaIm curious of what motivated them to publicly announced it Do you think they realized they are in a pickle and are hoping for assistance at this point Or maybe they were just typical in denial until you cant hide anymore|1 Not when you realize multinational empires have fucked them over to such a degree that people have gone decades wtihout proper nutrition or resources|0 It really only pays off in the equity build IMO I run basically every month at a loss on my units Of course I have a very aggressive mortgage payment schedule|0 I think you missed the point|0 They really really need to try to evacuate the ship JP government was trying not to deal with the noninfected people and hope that they survive the quarantine period but by this rate they will have to take care of a shipload of infected patients anyway|1 I dont know about the rest but Viet Nam placed a travel ban around January when the outbreak happened in China We shut down schools closed border even though it affected our economy Some mainly exported fruits like dragon fruit or durian price drop like crazy because tons of them couldnt be export to China Search Dragon Fruit bread to know the story behind themEveryone who came back from China and now Korean and people with close contact to them are tested and selfquarantined or being quaratined at military base or hospital The thing about Viet Nam is you cant hide anything from your neighbor Everybody knows everyone If they know you are back from China or Korean the news already spread among the neighbors about the virus or even ABC just came back from xyz heshe maybe infected Its annoying but it force local authority to act fast to calm down people They quickly show up to fetch that person and escort them to the hospital to get tested And I think its no used just randomly test people without any close contact with anyone travel back from China or Korean The reason why Korean and Italy performs thousand of tests is because they have so many individuals who are likely infected|0 Belgian medias say there is nothing to worry about and the seasonal flu kills more people|0 Anyone arriving in China from Japan Korea Iran Italy will be put in mandatory 14 day quarantine camp Source live in Shanghai stuck in JP note there are worse places to be stuck|0 The grudge goes much deeper than something like that Other countries doing worse doesnt get anywhere near the response China does even though they have worked harder than you can imagine to solve this problem People just hate China because they are a threat to Americas number 1 positionIts why no one really cares enough about any other humanitarian crisis made apparent by the absolute lack of coverage and traffic on such posts like in Yemen the US are directly supporting with weaponry or the lockdown in Kashmir or even the Mexican child concentration camps But instead they bring up anything related to China like its their Holy Bible while ignoring their own actions and never getting bored of it like they do very quickly with other atrocities commitedSo Im not saying that China isnt bad Just that the motivation to hate on China has little to do with them actually being bad but mainly from a political point If China gave the US the sweet money like Saudi Arabia thered be a lot less effort to demonise China from the US|1 The misinformation being spread is far worse than this virus|0 Hey Thanks for checking in Im back at home right now The flight back was surprisingly fine The flight was about 80 full Of course everyone had masks but other than that it was pretty standard Shanghai right now is actually not that bad Since Im not coming back from a red flagged country I didnt have to self quarantine for 14 days unlike my friend who came back from South Korea this week and my residential compound allows my family and I to go outside whenever we want as long as we get temperature checked before coming back inside The streets arent empty at all food and mail delivery are still allowed however all packages and orders are sent to a centralized location inside the compound I even got to play basketball outside a few times in the past week Some indoor courts are starting to open up as well I hope youre staying safe especially with how the situation is quickly evolving globally Thanks|1 No so far theyve closed all the schools But some countries may choose to only close secondary schools as it lessens the social impact|0 Damn penguins arent testing|0 Wouldnt this discredit the theory that reinfection of COVID causes worse symptoms Like these blood transfusions basically turn the patients into somebody battling it for the second time but we are seeing great results instead of antibodydependent enhancement|1 Such a piece of shit As a Florida native who now resides in CO thank GOD I got the fuck out of there when I did|0 Its my understanding coronaviruses dont mutate nearly as quickly as the cold and flu|0 Thanks good to hear So you would guess that 800 mg double that a day for say five days would be unlikely to cause real toxicity problems for most people Obviously the best thing to do is follow the science but its good to hear some firsthand subjective experiences too|1 Yeah wtf Im expecting ours to be worse than Italy since theyre downplaying it so much here so everyone is out acting as if nothings going on|0 is it true that in the US people are going to buy guns and ammos instead of food|1 As long as you have the fit test equipment|1 This is why I think we need to move people who test positive some equipment and some medical staff to a central location By confining everyone to a central location you can 1 Decrease the chance of further spread Done properly a more effective quarantine can be done as opposed to each hospital trying to do their own or relying on people to self quarantine which has failed at this point 2 Simplify logistics Much easier to just send new masks to one location than to twenty different locations for example 3 By having patients close together but separated obviously and through good use of the appropriate technologies we can decrease the number of staff that will be needed at any one time This allows for staff to take necessary breaks and sleep Of course such a place does not exist or does it Once it gets bad enough I would recommend the Arizona aircraft Boneyard At DavisMonthan AFBhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvyS9IrVVqdU With just a little work which we should be doing BEFORE we need it these fuselages can be modified to meet quarantine standards and house hundreds of thousands of patients along with providing housing for medical staff and equipment storage Plus being on a military base it makes it easier to prevent community spread|1 I dont think finger pointing at the CDC is helpful in a national emergency We need to work together and save the bickering for another day|1 When the other side kicks the gun grabbers out only then the 2nd amendment people will consider the Democratic party|1 Good for them|1 I think this was as aggressive as Fauci was allowed to get Watch Pences and others facial expressions as he speaks|0 Yeah that is a good point and the likely reason they would allow work from home not to protect the employees well being unless it impacts the bottom line|1 Food trucks about to go crazy|0 Do you have any videos where theyre singing and dancing Saw it for a couple of seconds on FB but lost the video|0 its very open to manipulationThis is GOP propaganda|0 No one listened to me or took me seriously except my parents and we were all prepped over two weeks ago|0 It only says not to come to the surgery if theyve been to China or know someone who has theres nothing that says avoid the GP if you need help|1 To be fair I dont think any country knows how to handle it Canada is just asking you if you have symptoms when you enter|1 Yeah definitely We have a lot of people who help us for free who come in and Im concerned for their heath Im talking people 80 absolutely lovely people who I do worry for Its a viscous cycleNeed to stay home if I stay home the business suffers go into work that spreads the disease need to stay home|1 LOL no symptoms he knows what this disease is right|1 He had has to watch what he says If he gets fired from the administrations response team he loses his platform to fight this thing Hes treading an incredibly difficult line between spewing the narrative that Trump wants and telling the truth|0 They can still carry it and grandparents love children|1 Its expnential growth on a time based nodel Disease can easily reach a doubling point once it gets past the lag phase of a lograithmic growth scale Youll eventually see doubling of numbers every few days and no one is prepared for that|1 Is toilet paper a litmus test for prepers now lol|1 I am from Hong Kong and I want to share some of the tips and hard lessons we get after SARS outbreak Agree with you totally and please stay cautious when wearing and taking down masks Wash hands before and after you wear and take them down Please do not touch your eyes noses and months at any time unless you have washed your hands properly Stay away from places with crowd Sorry if my English is not that fluent|1 SK is such a good example on how to properly handle an outbreak However most South Koreans are pretty civilized and cooperated with their government to fight the virus as we can see in other countries unfortunately it is not the same scenario South Korea will soon recover and start their normal lives they are strong and smart people Love to all|1 Actually the virus that infected Italy originated from Germany But Germany still has everything open and not doing mass testing They are lying about the numbers httpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1235105849841872897httpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1235105849841872897|0 A check in the mail each month during the crisis Thats what happened under George W Bush he did something similar with a one time 600 afaik|0 Lol who tf knows after 2016 I really hope youre right tho|1 Coronavirus is the new terrorism|0 Some viruses mutate more than others Coronaviruses dont at least from what has been observed Flu an HIV mutate extremely quickly making it difficult to develop vaccines to them Flu is also difficult because of the variety of types and the fact that we share the disease with many animals that almost the entire planet has direct contact with|0 This is so fucking stupid|0 I could be wrong but I suspect that includes both asymptomatic and presymptomaticThe data needs to be made available so we can work out the significance and the cases need to be reviewed to recheck for symptoms|0 Didnt they just sign an emergency bill allocating 81 billion for this and 3 billion for vaccine research|0 httpswwwgooglecoukampswwwdailymailcouknewsarticle8085837ampCoronavirusoutbreakpeakUKEastersixmonthshtmlSorry its the mail but its on a few places Yes I concur with this Unfortunately Because of the incubation period it means people are right now being infected all over The known cases is just a small sample Many just think they have a cold This means that for about 714 days people are walking about infected So all you have to do is look at here Italy was with their numbers and Juno to a week later with confirmed numbers My guess 712000 Sorry But yes its a guess But for many of us here we know that to be very likely We have two deaths which means its been spreading for about three weeks|0 Oh damn Didnt know that Thanks|0 The flu doesnt stop my POs from being made in ChinaThe economy part is the big worry here|0 Netherlands is battling with Iran for worst response|0 I agree but he did not have his shit together tonight He made me feel like every man for themselves I was really looking forward to words of wisdom and needed to feel that he had our back Tonight he really let me down His goal was to try to calm the panic after the CDC made their announcement yesterday I wanted to hear that they will start really testing people but sounds like they really are not Well unless you came from China AND have severe symptoms|1 Umm didnt I just see a live video of their St Patricks Day parade marching down the streetsEdit I fell victim to one of many phony videos being passed around social media Im usually pretty good but this one looked like the real deal Thanks for clarifying and be well all|1 All of this and not a drop of empathy for the chinese people Reddit|1 Next item of a Western government actively permitting the growth of the pandemicIf someone claimed they actively try to infect as many as possible I would have little counterarguments to it It just looks like they really do|1 Herehttpswwwbusinessinsidercomfivetimesthetrumpadministrationdownplayedthecoronavirus20203If you dont like that one just Google it because loads came up for me I just picked the first one|0 Ive been hearing kids calling this Boomer RemoverIf you want them to stop it theres one and only one way Lead and the possibility of heating it and delivering it quickly|0 They could allow shipping just not passenger airlines|1 That would only work if the employee were FMLA eligible AND every absence were related to the same qualifying serious health condition Plus its pretty cost prohibitive to get the paperwork since many doctors charge to complete it The FMLA is great but it doesnt encompass shorter illnesses like the flu|1 True Im only saying that theyre not afraid to announce it And its the wife not the Prime Minister|1 No no Sharing|0 Youre right its complicated I suppose maybe it should be any official public events private personal events are at your own riskAlthough every area is different smaller events are more popular in my area 30100 on a regular basis So banning 1000 plus wouldnt help stop the spread Realisticly its gonna spread anyway no matter what I guess|1 Good|1 This is messed up|0 Ive run into similar requirements for importing select agent samples into the US btw If you are coming from a background of working on samples that dont require such inactivation youd probably just go ahead and treat them for 30 min as the requirement says not knowing theres a better way to do the heat treatment|1 Eh sure keep up the name callingetc definitely proves your point because again he wasnt doing anything that youre accusing him ofCould you kindly provide the time code as to when he was intruding on a familys last moments with a loved one He simply wasnt Was his family even there with him No His family is in a different room suffering the same fateGive me a break get off your high horse and stop making up shit to somehow prove you are morally superior You arent because you are just making up shitWhat did we learn from this that we dont already know Uh gee let me see lets start with weve been getting propaganda and cover up And that not everything is as rosy as people say it is Or should we just resort to name calling and making up shit Again where did he get in the way of the medical staff like you said Where did he intrude on a familys last moments with a loved one Stop making up shit and get off your selfrighteous moral high ground because you are worse than that person you are accusing At the end of the day at least hes showing the truth while you are full of lies|0 What about all the snow birds There are 12 million retired Canadians that leave for warmer weather in the winter and most end up In Florida|1 Each deed should be looked at uniquely Yes have they done other bad things well go get emThis move is an excellent gesture to ensure quality of life for employees while keeping its profitable community safe|1 They like the stinging |1 Yeah lets also get Ebola MERS and SARS herd immunity while we are at it Are you really that dense|1 Omg me too lmao|1 Im not saying thats right on any level I cried a lot every day in that period but I want the world to know the truth especially there are a lot of voices stating China is doing a great job handling this No China isnt China handle this by sacrificing peoples lives and I dont ever want to see this again in any country in the world If any powerful politician decide to downplay this thing and wish somehow it will naturally go away people dying in their homes would be what they got|1 Truth|1 this chick was FIRE I am likeVERY VERY VERY impressed with this homie edit like NOPE NOT GOOD ENOUGH SAY YES MOTHERFUCKER looooool GOD I am in love|1 Whats the difference between case fatality and infection fatality|0 Im very much with on this one and being a dane to bootThe signs were there the playbook had already been written in chinese and to a certain extent italian as wellFar too much focus on salvaging what couldnt be salvaged namely the economy and now were all having this shitshow that will certainly stand not only the economy but also the hospitals and the general health and safety of the population on its head Weeks ago I said it Shut it down close the borders They all had a good laugh about that one and hey I cant say I blame them for who am I to speak No politician I will tell you thatThe worst part by far however is the people Some still believe that this is just some sort of paid vacation during which they should hoard as much milk and toilet paper as humanly possible while having endless discussions about the nuances of safety distance in the public spaceGerbils Human kind has become gerbils albeit with a peculiar interest in the stock market|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Im sorry to hear that Im dealing with a similar situation my parents threatened to throw me into an asylum back when the community spread first hit Washington State Today though after reading about the quarrentine of Westchester and NC declaring state of emergency theyre actually starting to plan and prepareA little too late in my book but at least its progress|1 Tbh the issue I see is that by telling people to NOT wear masks most of them are interpreting as oh it mustnt be that bad then and then not bothering to wash their hands either I agree misguided mask wearing is no better than no mask but from an official policy standpoint I wouldnt know whats worse|1 As he continues to pollute the world with his funding of herbicide coated gmo seeds|0 You are entirely wrong The abstract says three hours in aerosol and up to seven days on different surfaces Line 6162 It mentions hours of aerosols but days for surfaces Are we reading the same paper linked in this post|0 what lmao i try to make a point about how a plague that destroys more than 50 of society which had no medical care is nowhere near the same as the one who has less than 5 mortality rate and your response is have fun with cult haha xd This subreddit is just a bunch of paranoid people boosting each others fear society will fall sure thing buddy keep being fucking edgy A society from which old people and sickly people are removed will under no circumstances fallI agree my original comment was stupid but your response isnt much better|1 I practiced tonight Beans with farro in my hot pot Mixed in some madras curry and yogurt Not too bad But I do foresee losing some weight|1 I was just going to suggest a sign reminding ppl of the pandemic Asking not to touch things every store should have a purell station and the sign should politely ask is your errand absolutely necessaryAt my doctors office we check in at a kiosk I had a necessary appt on Tues I purelled before touching the screen and after Not taking a chance|0 Industrial N95 If its called N95 it has the same standard as the medical ones There are industrial masks that look like N95 but are not called N95 I think they are K serials These non N 95 masks do not have the capability to filter viruses They only filter out dust which is useless for virus Masks are important but you dont need N95 It is to prevent you infecting other people prevent people from sneezing into peoples faces Surgical masks will do just fine for this purpose as I said wear masks but no need to but out N95s There was a study that compared surgical masks and N95s both are good for viral protection Surgical masks have waterproof outer layer and also three filter layers As I said wearing a mask isnt going to protect you if someone is sneezing into your face All your exposed surface would have been viral coated including your hair eyes ears hands and clothing Unless you are going to have a biowash with strict aseptic technique to clean everything mask can do little Thats why healthcare workers wear full PPE with face shield They also have to follow strict guidelines when removing contaminated items But even with their training some doctors still get infected possibly from contamination while removing their PPE Face masks need to be changed every 4 hours The amount they go through means there isnt enough N95s to go around This happened in Wuhan eventually all N95s produced were given to hospitals and still there was shortage Leave PPE to healthcare staff because you can stay at home but they have to be in contact with infected patients Stockpiling is not going to help Masks can only do so much and buying N95 really is not necessary because its useless for layman Buy regular masks instead They really should be emphasizing flu hygiene and trying to prevent people from sneezing into open air and into their hands Elbow sneeze can prevent aerosol travel With good hygiene your chances of being infected in public is lower than if people wear masks and think they are invincible|0 Dont they understand that the time for coverup is over Itll only make things worse|0 I think only way it will work if you start incentivizing people give them 200 a day or so to stay home I think I could be wrong no matter how big of a banner you place people will be people Now if they get something out of it then asses will move I went to some stores today and I was the only one wearing a mask|0 If everyone country did this we wouldnt have assholes showing up at work with the flu and sharing it with their coworkers in general|1 httpstwittercomrealDonaldTrumpstatus1232652371832004608s20Just one example Watch his news conference on Wednesday where he said its just like flu and even blamed market crash on democratic debate and not an actual threat from the virus|0 This is crazy stuff|0 I think its all about the money unfortunately Local pharma stand to lose making money from test kits if importation from other countries occur Sad if true|0 I assumed they were not positive for the virus just put on quarantine out of an abundance of caution I cant get the article though so I could be wrong|0 John Cena and James Corden and Jimmy Fallon are all major fans and havent been mistaken for teen girls lately And I wouldnt be surprised if they also made donations|1 Their goal was to see how long the virus can live while suspended in air In the real world the viral droplets would settle to the ground or nearby surfaces So in the lab they used a specialized device called a Goldberg drum to keep the viral aerosols suspended in air Then at certain time points up to 3 hours they look samples of the air in the drum to see how much infectious virus was left They did this by using a cell line that gets easily infected by the virus They added the viral samples to cells and saw much of the cells got infected and compared the different times They found still infectious virus at 3 hours although reduces amounts compared to 0 hours|0 Dollar tree isnt doing anything You only get paid if you test positive If theres a mandatory quarantine you get nothing No plans to shut down All we got was an email telling us to wash our hands|1 I dont want to say thats funny but JesusEdit its funny|1 Well so you do lockdown and the virus cant infect your population great But what about other countries in the third world that dont have testing kitsPeople will be getting infected there and bringing it back then you get clusters starting again you need either a vaccine herd immunity or an effective treatment before you go back to normal|1 Fish mox is my next purchase US stopped producing penicillin in 2004|0 I gave up on that sub when there was a top voted comment about how the coronavirus was a government conspiracy to cull poor people|0 Good thing all of the people who were raising the possibility of this virus being airborne while also spreading asymptomatically were shouted down for two months Their sources were disputed as representing unfounded rumor mills specializing in fear mongering and misinformation while the mainstream news outlets unleashed a coordinated campaign downplaying this virus as far less deadly than the standard flu A year from now well all be told how this was an unforeseen tragedy and to continue appealing to authority for boilerplate truth safe for mainstream consumption|0 I hope it get brought under control|1 Im with you We have less than 1m hospital beds in the US 30 fewer in fact than we had in 1975 Our system is heavily geared toward outpatient care and short inpatient stays We have zero slack in the system basically If this virus goes Full Wuhan in a major met were going to be exactly where China was in Hubei Temp hospitals in gyms etc Our main hope if this blows up is Remdesivir And that is not a false hope there is a VERY good chance that Remdesivir tx will land COVID19 in the same CFR range as seasonal flu Since we all have accepted that risk it will cause the economic panic to subside The first results from large sample Chinese Phase III trials expected in 34 weeks|1 Good article Thx for posting|1 Im confused about this whole elbow bump thing First of all why is it SO essential to shake handsexchange bumps with someone Cant you just say hinodsmileetc Also arent we supposed to sneeze and cough in your elbows Bumping them with someone else afterwards sounds very irresponsible|0 Soap and detergents should be effective against coronavirus Lysol and other quaternary ammonium disinfectants should also be effectiveCoronavirususes are enveloped viruses meaning they are surrounded by a lipid bilayer kind of like a bubble of oil This can easily be disrupted eg by soap detergents quats alcohol etc which will kill the virusIncedentally this is why washing your hands with soap and water is recommended|1 the whistleblowers will be banned for spreading rumours and conspiracy theories|0 People in general are reluctant to dogo along with the things that are needed to really impact the spead More than that those thingsrestrictions on air traffic overland travel congregating etc would have to be imposed very early in the initial phases of the outbreak Then people say its a panic reaction The time to stop it is BEFORE it comes to your country Its always easier to roll actions back than to ramp reaction up|0 what an awesome analogy|1 If this current pandemic has shown as anything is that people are nasty and there are many people even in developed countries that could fall victim to itEbola spreads through bodily fluids similar to the current pandemic Its just they usually dont become contagious until the late stage and the infected are usually too ill to move around and spread the virus easily But given the homeless population in many American cities and outcast populations and population density in Asian and European cities there is definitely a vulnerable population that could get infected and would not have anywhere they could go to distance themselves|0 As someone who lives in SA I have to say Im terrified Somehow I had a feeling this would happen the minute I heard they were being relocated here Im not so concerned for myself as I am for older family members that live and work here Placing blame is a moot point What can we do to prepare|0 Most people believe that wearing a mask will help them not getting sick but that effect is pretty low Why washing hands is so effective is that we are touching ourselves in the face nose eyes mouth all the parts that can take in infections extremely often Washing hands prevents that you getting sick from the stuff hanging to door handles hand rails and all the other stuff you and also sick people touch all day|1 How about redundancy Surely youve got legislation guaranteeing redudancy payments|1 Maybe its code Like the one tasked with generating the numbers to fit the narrative is trying to make it obviously suspect in its perfectness so the international community picks up on it because if they revealed the real numbers they would be locked up by the CCP|1 Just remember we pay taxes for this why I dont know other than the armed thugs that will come to murder you and your family if you dont|0 Theres no accountability other than the ballot box with another head on the same body|0 This attitude in America where government is evil and every company self regulates is about to kill millions of AmericansAnd when this doesnt happen will you admit youre wrong|0 Have you seen this site tracking cases and people with and without symptoms around the world httpscovid19trackcomhttpscovid19trackcom I think the data in Canada is quite limited right nowBasically it asks people to selfreport and builds a map of the populationlevel situation|0 I would keep it covered Mucus membranes may be at risk in the same way eyes are Not an expert in the field unfortunately|0 The suits arent the issue We already have those warehouses for bioterrorism The issue is that we cant treat 80000000 people needing oxygen therapy|0 I was a manager back then and had to send people home We had a liberal work from home policy and I was serious pissed Why are you here you are coughing all over the place just to hunch over a laptop go home and log in if you have to workx200BMade no sense except for presentism and people being on autopilot|0 The fools have a finite supply of money the supply of fools however is infinite|0 Which is why I questioned the completely ready claim|1 Especially the schools If only there was some way to get all the students together and tested without risking further spread|1 Lmao this is like showing up for a group project and having to read it even though you didnt do any of the work|1 Buying extra packs of toilet paper before the pandemic even started is absolutely nowhere near the level of assholery of cleaning out entire shelves of TP out of selfishness Completely unrelated Why would any normal person think to buy extra amounts of food and essential items for no reason I mean good for you I guess but thats not normal behavior|0 posting to reddit is not worth killing someone You dont think millions of people have the same news you do|1 this is like a cult full of typhoid marys|1 wow httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6295500binzh60101895500001jpg|1 Also Japan has an aging population and the elderly are at greatest risk for severe cases|1 Canned goods a lot of pasta rice and cup noodles napkins and tampons toilet paper fever medication and just general medication desinfectants water candles and board games in case we get bored|0 Hes literally including all of the countries The data he mentions is true but if youre unwilling to do this analysis with only developed countries then youre either a cunt or not the sort of person who should be trying to use numbers in a public forum Have a look at the list and ask yourself would I feel comfortable making that conclusion publicly If you do it properly the conclusion ends up being the literal opposite of what he said|1 Back in 34 weeks ago I had ALL the symptoms of coronavirus EXCEPT a fever Because I didnt have a fever the doctor didnt test me He only asked me if I had been to China I said no but bc I work with the GP I cant confirm or deny that Ive not been in contact with an infected person I am a healthy 25 year old and I have NEVER gotten a chest infection I was put on antibiotics for my chest infection I was coughing and sneezing and wheezing and had shortness of breath I was still working prior to seeing my doctor because I can not afford to go off sick with no pay as I have a house and pets and bills to pay Think this is the story the country over right now However when I got sick there was barely 50 cases of coronavirus in the uk So he probably didnt test me because he thought the risk was literally nothing Even so the attitude of the doctor scared me We are not testing enough people We seem to only be testing people who show ALL symptoms of coronavirus which is not good People will show different signs We need to be testing everybody South Korea has been testing around 15k people a day We have barely tested 30k in over a month|0 Those guys are trustworthy right|1 Yo Man thank you for the tip bro i am alredy talking to themAmazon delivery local sub because of your comment fucking big F to you Man you the shit i love ya Brother|1 Contrary to popular belief many people are aware of fit requirements which arent some magical thing as people seem to think|1 Thank you for taking the time to share your experience I am in Washington state and apparently we are not learning from what happened in China Italy and Iran I appreciate post like yours because it gives me a glimpse of what to expect in the coming weeks|1 I dont think theyre intentionally lying They hate Trump to such an irrational degree they are not capable of fairly evaluating anything about him|0 I can only imagine what this is going to look like in 2 weeks from now|1 I live in central AL too My Walmart was totally out of dried beans and the rice was nearly gone Vitamin c and hand sanitizer was gone Ramen was nearly gone Disinfectants were gone Otherwise my experience was the same as yours Outwardly people are saying it is nothing but the evidence shows people are stocking upI also am a RN The hospitals have supplies but twice in the past week I have had to stop people outside patient rooms for raiding our PPE from the precaution stations we place outside patient rooms If I have a patient with contactdropletairborne precautions they have gloves gowns masks etc placed outside their door to make it easier We may have to remove those because people are taking the supplies|1 Dont forget to help Jesus in my patreon|0 Do you think the spread outside China might be somewhat slowed by comparison to China given the unique environmental factors that occurred in China For instance this study suggests that Chinas Spring Festival results in the largest human migration on earth and calculates 3 billion some people counted twice due to round trips travel contacts occurred during the Chinese Spring Festival of 2018 httpsjournalssagepubcomdoifull1011770308518X19845908This year the festival fell on January 25 Perhaps that huge human migration in combination with a delayed response by authorities and an overwhelm of the Chinese Healthcare System with many falling ill at the same time may have sped up the transmissionIn the USA for example we live further apart accept in certain urban communities and for the most part are alert to the virusSo perhaps the spread may take a bit longerIdk other parts of the world|1 yah and sx200BUS is painfully out of dateCompared to whatIn what wayI just find the endemic selfhate bizarre|0 Right People are all like why isnt the government doing enough as they carry on with their events and social gatherings and not doing anything to mitigate their own risk or risk to others Its like saying well I know I havent taken any steps to gelp but its the governments fault for not forcing me Meanwhile drastic steps are being taken with over a couple of hundred billions of dollars allocated and more measures to be taken and people are mad that it didnt only take a day after the first case People just love to whine and complain but that shit does take time and if it did happen in the first two weeks and we went balls out In those two weeks and it ended up being nothing Those same people would be freaking out about incompetence then|0 Ya what with Indonesia happily coming over while sick just to get treated here|1 Good job Mr Hat|1 Yah even if the mortality rate is low Even though 3 is too high in my opinion It damages the balls Which worries me a lot|0 Screenshots Lol|1 Martial law will come There is no other wayI expect italy will impose it in the next 2 weeksIn USA is going to start the civil war|0 So many pictures of him touching all his supporters lol I hate to be cynical but trump would send sick people into every sanders event just to help make it happen|0 Let me preface this by saying I am not a doctor but I would consider you to be at very low risk 14 is considered the upper limit of time for displaying symptoms I think youre as in the clear as most anyone With that said I bet almost everyone has had some sort of near run in with the virus similar to this whether they realize it or not|0 Thats true though you could go to self checkout or use a different cashier It might be worth trying to set something like this up for times of crisis but I think its unneeded for normal times|1 At least one of those hospitals was built in only ten days Between the response in China South Korea and Italy I find it hard to believe this wont be significantly worse than the flu|0 Well the majority didnt really|1 But in order to get a diagnostic youll have to go to the hospitaldoctor and there arent enough testand ya have to have symptomsthe bill is intended to keep people at hometo stop the spreadrequiring a diagnosis will do the oppositeI hope it passeswith alittle tweak|1 People who are on ships disembark and enter the country for breaks after long voyages are sea So banning travellers inevitably means banning shipments from the country as well In addition even if this were not the case receiving shipments from a ship with people who came from affected countries means local cargo handlers will come into close contact with the people ie your containment is going to fail|0 I dont get it This virus is worldwide anyway how could we ever have contained it It was going to march into our country no matter what Seemingly midJan was its arrival date|0 We cant just grind a country to a halt for 14 days Medical staff will need to work Utilities need to stay on Food needs produced and processed delivered and sold Production of supplies cant stop especially in the medical field These things not only cant stop but they will grind if we stop and start themThere are things that society needs every day You can shut down some things like leisure and certain types of retail Sports and Universities are already doing the right thing Shit is gonna be different for a while But this country wide shutdown isnt realistic and expecting it or asking for it is dangerous|0 What a bad ass|0 USA isnt lying They are being very transparent No testing no fucks given No disease if no one gets tested|0 Companies that by their very nature destroy the environment AND exacerbate the spread of the outbreak that is causing their downfall asking for a handoutThe laws of physics wont allow a violin tiny enough for this|0 just a normal flu measure|0 Bold to asume he has a plan|1 This number will skyrocket in the next 48 to 72 hours I work at a major hospital in Mass and were just waiting for the tests to come back for the presumptive cases We have at least 20 in our facility alone|0 Yes Because before the guns were invented nobody got hurt Right LOLOf course people got hurt But less It is more difficult to kill someone with a knife or an axe than it is with a gun Fewer guns lead to fewer homicidesWould you prefer to fight burglars with a knife Because before guns were invented thats precisely what people had to do to defend themselvesId prefer not fighting burglars at all It is better to call the police and let them get arrested In an emergency I do have a big knife and a sword decorative but sharp enough not to mention the hilt makes for a great club to intimidate the burglars with No not just that Guns are needed to protect not only from people with guns but also to protect from people with knives and from people with wooden sticks and people in bare knuckles that wish to harm you I heavily disagree with that Just like people with guns are a lot more reluctant to attack other people with guns than they are to attack people without guns people with knives are a lot more reluctant to attack someone who also has a knife than they are to attack someone without a knife Therefore in an environment where no one has a gun a knife offers the exact same protection a gun would in an environment where everyone has a gun No Its not Violence in the USA has different causes not related to gun ownership And this topic is much too vast to cover in just a few sentences But your point is very easy to disprove simply by noting that groups of people who commit most violent crimes and groups of people who own the most guns are different groups And if guns were the cause then it wouldnt be the case It would be that the group of people that owns the most guns would be the group that commits the most violence While the high level of crime and violence is not due to guns guns are responsible for said crime and violence becoming more deadlyAlso the group of people who owns the most guns are generally uppermiddle class folks who are rich enough to buy many guns and collect them as a hobby They commit relatively little violent crime but that doesnt matter What does matter is that the people who do commit violent crime also have guns It doesnt matter how many guns they have just the fact that they are likely to have them is plenty to escalate a situation and get people killed In other words guns do not create problems but they do make existing problems a hell of a lot worse Which is why it is a bad idea to let people have them|0 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence|0 Yes And as terrified as I am now I really really hope our horrible numbers can at least wake other countries the fuck up Other nations need to sep up and protect their citizens proactively right now|0 What did you want him to say You wanted him to tell people therell be food shortages so that tonight people stab each other over discount rice at Walmart You want to see people reenacting Black Friday idiocy only with knives over bags of lentilsTheres no cure N95 masks are in short supply and they dont filter out the virus anyway as this virus is 120nm and N95 masks let through anything smaller than 300nm and 5 of things greater than 300nmYou wanted him to tell people to stop leaving their homes as of tonight so everyone can starve to death as the economy dies over night and no one goes to work at the grocery store tomorrow to sell foodWhat would have had him say out of curiosity|0 There is some evidence20 patients with new crown pneumonia as of February 17th The clinical symptoms of patients with 12 days were improved significantly after treatment with hydroxychloroquine After 5 days of use 19 cases of chest CT showed significant improvement in absorption httpswwwjqknewscomnews388543ThenovelcoronaviruspneumoniahasshorttermcurativeeffectonthetreatmentofnewcrownpneumoniahtmlActually its interesting rereading that that hydroxychloroquine was looking good for prophylaxis they checked 80 patients on it for lupus and none had coronavirus this is in a hospital in WuhanFor treatment the chloroquine results Ive seen so far look better than hydroxychloroquine but who knows|1 wow we going from ok boomer to goodbye boomer in a span of a month|1 Im thinking that the relevant number isnt the mortality rate but the critical hospitalization rate because it spreads so fast that medical systems will be overrun Most people wont get access to an ICU when this starts going Everyone that needs oxygen to survive or even just an IV will perish|0 What is the evidence for this I read the German paper and it wasnt clear to me that they tested before people had the sore throat Can you confirm|0 The US clearly has the resources Do you have sources that suggest she wont get approved|1 Good luck to everyone who was in that room|1 The main epidemic situation is only in Daegu which is under controlThe government is actively taking many measures to deal with it Other cities have little impact I believe it will be restored soon|1 yeah that is not how science works these are very new insights that may be rising but if everyone was going to change or implement guidelines based on a case study or small sample studies that just came out this week youd call them crazy You cant start accusing the government of cover up lying or incompetent that was my point|0 Tank top man|1 Im not sure how much confidence we can have in these results The data doesnt include the statistical significance of the findings|1 WHO and governments have a standard pandemic response protocol which containment and quarantine is part of Wait until the numbers are theirin the thousands and you will see it applied Italy just applied itThey like to keep sheep calm before they have to herd them in pins same with humans|1 Thank you|1 It was time for a firm decision at least on the border shut it down and funnel retuning Canadians through a mandatory quarantine His own wife came back with Covid before march break and he didnt put a stop to travel then before thousands of Canadians left the country Trudeau is incapable of decisiveness|0 Have you told her you had no idea she was so selfish and its deeply disturbing to you|0 That is reassuring to say the least I am from the UK more specifically the south of Wales the situation here is nowhere near as bad but I can see in the next few daysweeks there is going to be an escalation in cases and our already overworked NHS system will collapse|0 I wore protective eye gear as well actually because I know that fact|1 yes you guys are doing a great job s|1 Does it look like mine httpsimgurcomaZr1xYza|1 This is indeed a theory May explain the vague smoker data|0 Hes much more intelligent than you think he just knows how to cater to his bible belt God loving Shotgun Shooting Murican base|1 Good something needs to change|1 the fact that you do it through insurance companies is the problem|0 My clinic has been dragging feet on this The managers were dreaming that this wouldnt get this badAnyway here I am at work seeing patients without an n95 anywhere in sight Im pretty furious|0 Just like that World Trade building 4 collapsed for no apparent reason|0 I have kids and didnt even get the joke until you said it I get it now totally relatable|1 Im not a medical doctor But Ive read published research for 25 years professionally Ive been deeply involved in the development of medical devices with faculty from JHU I have about 20 patents of which about 10 of which relate to statistical reasoning I have a basic knowledge of phramacokinetics So I have a bit of domain knowledgeThe piece you are missing is that this is all in reply to someone who was suggesting that people take a gram or more per day as preexposure prophylaxis Surely you dont think this is reasonable Ill be giving my over 60 patients hydroxychloroquine within 24 hrs of symptoms This is completely reasonable The evidence is limited and it may turn out to be completely wrong but its the best guess for a reasonable thing to do at this timeTaking a low dose a few hundred mg per week as preexposure prohylaxis is not completely unreasonable either Theres no real evidence for this but a somewhat sane rationale based on in vitro data Of course we have other evidence that CQHCQ is harmful as antiviral prophylaxis This is where clinical judgment and personal preference comes in If you as a medical practitioner want to take a few hundred mg per week as PrEP to try and reduce your risk no one will fault ya Itd be nice to have some trials to know if it is helpful against COVID19 though what if it actually increases the long term risk because its an immunomodulatorTaking several grams per week as preexposure prophylaxis is right outedit The accepted rate for negative appendicectomy is about 20I think its more fun to point at the rate of orchiectomy of healthy testicles because that causes a more visceral twinge P|1 This sums it up really well|1 The USA has always leaned heavily on the private sector in times of crisis It happened during WW2 We see China doing the same thing with their manufacturing sector the government just has more control there This really is not that scary|0 Yeah same BC had some results from a couple of days ago yesterday which explained the sudden 83 cases jump Im scared to think about how many that will translate to in Ontario after another day|0 This is beautiful what a wonderful moment they have made in a bad situation Bless them all|1 And worse in the UK|0 Are these posorneg tests reliable We already know that the temperature tests being done in China are useless|0 Like I said I follow Iranian news closely theres no mention of 15 under 40 or anything similar anywhere whether Iranian official news independent sources or others like BBC Persian not even rumors or chatter on social media|1 The power of ginger compels him He will be fine|1 We hope We probably dont know yet|1 Just googled Hot Topic salary 832hour lmao I was right on point actually I also stated part time college students Anything else Edit JC you play pokemon Im out|1 The 1918 Spanish Flu that killed 50 million worldwide population 19 billion had a Case Fatality Rate CFR of 25 whereas usual seasonal flu is 01 This coronavirus has a global CFR of 34so this is more deadly than the spanish flu damn|0 Actively irresponsible and inconsiderate|0 Tsk tsk The word pandemic does not exist stop your wrongthink now bad citizen|0 Im also from texas and everyone I know is taking this extremely seriously Its a big state a lot of opinion diversity|0 Its odd that the US numbers havent been increasing|0 I want to know how many asymptomatic cases are Whats percentage of infected people can be out spreading and not knowing|0 Hopefully they can get more help to reduce those work hours as well as the health care workers Tell your other half and crews to stay safe great work and thank you from all of us|1 Its way more fair that way|1 I remember when 1 case in Europe was alarming Now it is 1000s a day Not good|0 Yes Recovery is 1024 days right Or even up to 6 weeks Thats gonna be some time so we have to be calm and patient and cooperate with healthcare system|1 The article states it takes 1 3 days to get the results as well So Belgium is not that far away The testing is the part that only takes 5 minutesI must add that the article also states due to continuous repetition of testing the nurses were able to find efficient routine to do the test with team of 4 which now takes 5 minutes|1 Are they charging guests to stay Do they have to stay in their rooms How does everyone get fed Logistically challenging to say the least|1 Yeah say that again San Francisco New Rochelle New York City now considering a shelter in place order Thanks again for the value add|1 Yes I wouldnt wish death on President Obama Bush or any other still living President regardless of whether I voted for them or not Losing our leaders does not help anything|1 Michael Worobey an expert on the evolution of viruses points towards Kansas as being the origin of the 1918 flu pandemic and he explains why see his TED talk herehttpsyoutube48Klc3DPdtk|0 In fact Coronavirus might mutate faster than the flu given its zoonotic qualitiesInfluenza is also a zoonotic virus However coronaviruses have a proofreading mechanismhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed21593585 unlike the influenza virus Meaning it will mutate less|0 Its their government And many of them support it|1 The only point youre driving is you did things not all can and think youre better due to being able to do so Dont be a cocky dick|1 This implies you would touch an elevators button and then eat with your bare hand without washing gross|1 As far as Im aware every state and major corporation in the world operates a propaganda department or several Theyre usually referred to as public relations or human services departments nowadays though as the popular definition for the term Propaganda in the English language has shifted drastically since the 1950s similarly to the terms Dictatorship A fancy way of saying a stategroupled by or Regime Which was a way of uniformly describing formal and nonformal apparatuses of state power eg saying British Regime would refer to the East India Company Anglican Church the Crown and the British Parliament whereas British Government would refer to just Parliament and the Crown its use created a very different emotional reaction and generally was understood to mean something different and arguably more complexIts not a coincidence that the largest city in the USA in regards to Reddit users happens to be a moderately sized Air Force base which publicly hosts a large cyberwarfare section and which regularly publishes articles and booklets on analysis of cyberwardisinformation and virtual instruction manuals on how to wage it|1 Release the scapegoats|0 It still looks pretty risky here now number encreasing fast and news about quarantined people going to shops and the gym lets hope she stays safe|1 Its important to keep in mind that most countries besides China are still in the early days of this outbreak It usually takes a week or two after symptoms start for them to get bad enough to hospitalize people so that 7 may not stay that way over the next several weeks|0 On the news today it was reported that Italian doctors were prioritizing younger critical patients over older ones because chances of survival were better|1 You should call your PCP It is cold and flu season in general and you were on a plane that makes people sick on a good day No reason to panic just give them a call|0 Thats true I originally thought that Singapore and Hong Kong would be two leading indicators for how this thing would go globally as I though that these would be the WORST hit cities world wide HK has an open LAND border with China and people travel back and forth regularly for work Singapore also had some bad clusters and is super popular with tourists from China Singapores approach was to track down all the contacts from each case and do hard core quarantining for all possible infected people with draconian penalties for those who breach penalty People were told NOT to wear masks as they were worried that the healthcare system would run out of masks HKs quarantine was shit and the tracking was lousy but people in HK are fucking paranoid people were hoarding toilet paper and so people here religiously wash their hands and everybody is wearing masks HK and SG were both the most virulent cities outside of China at one point|0 No im a paramedic in a major texas city and we are already running out of PPE We have 5 more n95 per truck and 2 gowns 2 disposable face shields and 4oz of hand sanitizer We are unable to get resupplied as per our logistics manager My partner and i started bringing our own various disinfectants from home in 1 gallon pump sprayers We where told today that if we get sick thats a workers comp issue not a company issue and that it would be 100 our fault because you dont get sick if you wear your PPE correctly Now if dispatched to a potential Covid19 patient you have to call the director of operations so he can record verbal confirmation you know you are picking up a covid19 patient so when you get quarantined the company wont pay you I dont expect the company to survive this pandemic|0 Imagine an official government run minecraft server with like the entire population on it for a week That shit would be wild|0 then I dont see what you didnt understand about the original comment|1 yeah that too|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 China needs to throw the CCP out Crime to their own country and to humanity|0 I stumbled upon Logans Run completely by chance and that movie blew me away I dont know why this is the first reference Ive heard to it out in the wild|1 Im not clinging to that at all Im treating this ordeal as its just as easy for my baby to get it Since all this started Ive practically stopped touching her face except to wipe it after eating or some spit up Im worried for my dad|0 If 2 to 6 is fast you are in for a wakeup call The numbers will balloon quickly as actual testing across the country finally appears to be getting underway 6 weeks late We are likely way more infected than numbers currently show and 30 day infection projections are scary|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid 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care for a few weeks sarcasm Idiots|1 That reads almost too good to be true really|1 Ad hominem attacks are illogical and part of the problem Also you are doing the straw man fallacy Ascribing to me arguments I did not make|0 Exactly Middle aged fat dude with mask on could be anyoneAlso look at his clothing hes so humble like usI think he may enjoy the screams of sealing people in their homes He seems like the type China livestreamed building of a hospital yet they dont release any footage of their now fully defeated virusfree society Hmm|1 Itll be announced by Wednesday theyre just figuring out the logistics I know theres not a lot of faith in those in charge but they cant keep ignoring the inevitable|1 This is a big shit sandwich and were all going to have to take a bite|0 What bothers me about these statements is twofold First the condescension and arrogance to say that various plausible speculations have less value than theirs Two their claims are no more speculative than anyone elsesAs a person with no medical expertise but the ability to read understand and apply logic I can say with all certainty that those claiming this happened naturally as well as those who say it came from a lab are all 100 completely speculatingHeres the only facts I do know for sure1 The only reason scientists claim this happened naturally from either bats or anteaters is because theyve been studying them for years and had an indication regarding this virus Theres no coincidence they pick these animals out of the entire Animal Kingdom and get a hit Thats because they were already aware of it which suggests theyve been studying them in a lab2 While these very scientists claim to care and be concerned over the Chinese trying to contain this virus they insult them by the suggestion that this naturally came from animals via the Seafood Market By this insinuation theyve generate a meme for Westerners to say stop eating bats stop eating pangolin as if this is fact So then who are the ones creating the conspiracies Lets be clear they just didnt start running clinical studies or lab tests on bats anteaters in the last 2 months and came up with these conclusions This information was previously studied and available to them again meaning the viruses they were studying were already in a laboratory environment3 Wheres the data on Zero Patient I havent seen it Have you Have these socalled scientists Did China provide it Tell me or show me Give me confirmation and Ill say that these scientists arent providing SPECULATIONS right along with everyone else It very well may be that the best likelihood of the carrier of the virus to the agentspreader was from these animals Im not refuting any of thatand can anyone else really But thats not the REAL issue here Where is the confirmation that Zero Patient either ATE or CAME INTO CONTACT with these particular animals AT THE SEAFOOD MARKET and then quickly started transmitting the COVID19 disease to the four others that ended up contracting the disease Did the Chinese government contain and then test all the animals and people within the Seafood Market How can you say to me that it wasnt some mouse or rat that got out of the area and wasis still roaming around the city spreading the virus Can you confirm there was a Zero Patient and how the others came into contact with him What about the information released that some of those contracted had no contact with Zero Patient or the Seafood Market Exactly how was the transmission of the virus presented in Zero Patient 4 The fact of the matter is there are no valid confirmed answers to any of the questions of 3 and without the information theres simply no way to say EXACTLY how the virus was transmit PERIOD All of it from here on out including these scientists are all speculation After OJ Simpsons trial the entire world is aware that you must secure a crime scene This Seafood Market was the biggest crime scene of them all causing worldwide chaos illness death and economic destruction and its just getting started There is no accounting of this There is no true accountability Then these scientists want everyone to forget that and just move along and trust the ones who lost our trust by not doing the bare minimum required of them at this scale Bottom line China didnt test ANYTHING at that Seafood Market There are no animal tests on anything being sold at the market Theres no perfect information about a Zero Patient and how he contracted the virus We simply have no idea because China hasnt provided us with any of the specific details about what happenedand most certainly NEVER confirmed the dude ate anything at that market What China did do is wipe the Seafood Market clean so that in the future when everything dies down no one is going to be able to go back to the scene of the crime and gather ANY evidence and this mystery will NEVER be solvedeveryone will just continue to speculate and these scientists will continue to be arrogant in saying their speculation is BETTER than yours merely because they have a PhDNOT because they have ANY VALID evidence to BACK what theyre saying|0 Im hoping they will be proactive rather than reactive Many universities in the US who have similar schedules have moved all their classes online even if theres been no campus cases Ex Harvard|1 You need to take precautions wash your hands avoid social gatherings etc But being paranoid doesnt help at allIm in Madrid where the situation is pretty bad but you need to keep your head cold I know Im taking the necessary precautions but if I keep panicking about this it will only generate stress and probably lower my immune system If you are doing things right there is nothing else to do just try to chill and wait until things get better|0 We reacted way to late to ever have the same numbers as South KoreaThey shut their schools down in december They encouraged quarantining early and tested a shit ton of people early and already have culture that understands how to behave in these situations|0 I hear the going rate is 50 cents a comment unconfirmed but probably an hourly worker just doing the duty assignment of the day|0 Ah okayYeah that stands no chance at all of getting passed and it shouldnt|0 Yes absolutely|1 Who says you have to homeschool your kids Fuck let them play and vacation and be happy with what toys they have while the adults worry and grind for income Kids arent going to get stunted for having an extra 23 mo of summer vacation|0 It was 8 of 565 from a sample composed entirely of people suspected of possibly having the virusNo it wasnt The 565 were Japanese citizens repatriated from Wuhan in January they werent repatriated because they were suspected of having the virus Although still not a random sample of the population|0 Oh my god stop it This is ridiculous Its from traffic kicking up sediment Nothing to do with pollution|0 Its applicable because one doesnt take the average or min but the maxx200BWhy would you want to underestimate the R0 What is is the danger of overreacting and quarantining and stocking up on supplies and taking a slight hit on the economy vs under reacting and end up with billions infectedx200BIn these situations intelligent people dont fuck around and play game about trying to accurately find the true value What does it matter if its 448 7434 or 2534 Once its above 2 its DEAD seriousx200BYou are really only talk about about the planet being infected in 7 dayswhich means it already is and nothing to really worry about because R0 is then meaningless or 14almost like 7 or 30well maybe some can avoid infection but still kinda pointlessWHO is the one who is suppose to step in and have all this shit planned out with stockpiling of resources and plans and shit they clearly are corrupt and criminal Teldros should either be hanged or shot as many others CDC toox200BThese people do not deserve to get away with what they have done Their sole job was to stock pile resourcesthey get 4B a year and to plan out different scenarios and be prepared They clearly have done squat and it was intentional and they intentionally downplayed it to cover their ass hoping the virus was not serious and they would luck out|0 Nah even then hes ordering hamberders|0 I mean coronachan can take a few of us it wont hurt|1 Big Tobacco orchestrated the whole thing They bought out Juul planted their stooge as CEO then lobbied to have flavors banned and raise the age to 21|0 not locking those who refuse to quarantine harms many others who may even die from one person spreading the disease referencing south koreas patient 31 Intentionally spreading a disease is a crime in many countries are you saying that putting criminals in prisons is an instance of wrongfully taking away someones liberty Youre only saying theyve gone too far because its the PRC but in reality locking someone in their homes is the lightest of punishments for refusing quarantines IMO Theyre ensuring other individuals rights to be healthy and in that aspect and that aspect only I believe their respect of human rights is ironically better than the lack of action that the United StatesCanadian government is takingif it benefits the majority of the population I dont see whats wrong with temporarily forcing someone to stay indoors its their fault for endangering other peoples safety I guess I just personally like socialist policies |1 And there are many places with vastly different costs of living too Try living on 40K in Southern California even 10 years ago vs 20K in many other places with vastly lower costs of living|0 they know that if they can sell brexit they can sell the outdated inefficient NHS has failed you im pleased today to announce sweeping changes that will make it more streamlined more costeffective not being led by donkeys but a dominic cummings leading a donkey|0 Thats a really scary line though who decides whats fake Who decides what you see Who creates the stories I too would like to see change but for now the foreseeable future the only change I see is forced|0 I would do it for free if it meant my family would be unaffected|1 If youre concerned with finances I would look to see what valuables you have and sell them This will give you rent and food money on hand Maybe a gaming computer or something you may want but dont really need for work and everyday living I know everyones situation is different so I hope youre able to plan something in case you do need to quarantine Best of luck my friend|1 Also doesnt take into account the cultural differences Italians and many Europeans tend to socialize considerably more to include a lot of hugs kissing and greetings through physical contact|1 Ah I googled Amazon profits 2019 and didnt read the top excerpt carefully enough 21 billion is for Q3 2019|1 This happens a lot you get these weird little glimmers of hope that are immediately pulled away from you|1 The United Nothings you mean|1 Me everyday honestly|1 Ebola is lousy at spreading compared to the much more contagious coronavirus|0 I got trashbags goggles gloves tape and luckily got masks I will make my own damn hazmat suit I cant afford this crap If i get it id have to choose the stoic death option Am American with middle class job and decent ins Not corona decent tho Protect yourselves people|0 Fox should be illegal What a bunch of nutjobs|0 Because people in general are quite stupid and dont care much despite what they claim in their facebook posts about doing some shopping for elderly its just for show and quite hypocritical|0 Are you going to be going to work in the midst of the outbreak They are saying that well at least they will give you time off when you likely get sick Is that acceptable to you If so and your okay with it so be it but dont act like I should be okay with it I do have anxiety over having to go to work and stand in line waiting to get my temperature taken with possible asymptomatic contagious people that could be spreading the virus just by breathing|0 Of course they would do it if they were interested in saving lives but they dont They wont longterm profit most obvious is from bigpharma so they need many infected to sell upcoming vaccines less obvious is from death of lessuseful people eldery lowincome lowiq cause automation will increase and therell be much less jobs in future that just simple example im sure there is more for them|0 Well I got a remind me bot message so|1 Thank you and also dont forget to rthankchina |1 I understand your situation specially at your age But think of it as the perfect opportunity to grow you came to Spain just to learn a language silly right and youll leave being able to care for yourself cooking etc Maybe even learn the language too now that its actually needed|1 As a social creature it is very difficult for humans to go against the social current Living in the Thoughts and Prayers states means being surrounded by especially impressionable people The American Arrogance factor is intuitively expected to be more of a factor in these places where any show of independent thinking is immediately dismissed as radical liberal progressivism The tendency of the majority of Thoughts and Prayers states populations to otherize will prove to be an incredible weakness in the coming months|0 Experts have been saying this for years Its mind boggling how illequipped the entire world is when it comes to virulent threats Lets keep building missiles though right|0 Im sure the GOP would be gleeful to have an number of GOP Congressman or Senators die I hope that doesnt happen|1 Seems like the perfect move This guy was a clown from the beginning|1 if its man made the the Chinese ppl could force the govt to leak the vaccine|0 Hm so do you know if such a calculation has been done by the COVID Its kind of disappointing that we dont see these useful reports and instead are left in the dark when given the current data we can at least arrive at an estimationI think the Diamond Princess gives quite an accurate look at the undetected and asymptotic cases It seems like 40 of the patients are asymptotic so we can probably cut the current CFR by half I wish they had the age statistics up because my guess rn is perhaps younger people with stronger immune systems are more likely to be asymptotic or even less likely to contract the virus|1 I have never in my life seen someone call THEMSELF Alex P Keaton Congratulations you played yourself|1 Yes there is a clear divide in attitude and response based in political affiliation because of this|1 Many of us have NEVER been quarantined in our lives so keep in mind that it will possibly get boring perhaps depressing it will be a REAL mental challenge With that in mind get things that will help with you and your familys sanity Dont just get rice Get instant ramen bowls too Add some La Croix or Gatorade to the water stash Instead of just baked goods get a variety of candies and chocolates to try Watching movies is not gonna be enough Youre gonna need a variety of activities this is the time to make a Baby Yoda clay craft built Hogwarts in Lego grow some indoor plants read those books youve always wanted to read but never had the time for etc This is what Ive planned for because I get bored easily Plus I think at the very least government will supply some food to hold us over But they will not be supplying the entertainment |1 I overestimated by 14I dont think we are going to see the kind of spread Italy has this week If we are lucky never|1 I think thats about what its being estimated at right now 02ish to 04ish but going up to about 14 in the over 80s so it depends on the demographic as well as the overall number|1 Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus Combination of drugs used Lopinavir Retonovir Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine They are going to suggest same medicine globallyWould you mind sharing a link to this I am Indian and really would like to know|1 Yeah its mainly other people Im worried aboutJust because Im unlikely to get seriously ill myself doesnt mean I want to fuck over old people and the immunocompromised|0 I have yeast and flour to play it safe|1 Thank you for the information Sounds like the situation is pretty stable in Beijing and merely preventative at this point Stay safe out there though|1 I am right Anyone who doesnt see it well they will not do well|0 Commenting to follow darpa madness |0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well I dont have the fever anymore Im also staying at home I just have a lingering cough I feel otherwise fine now three weeks laterjust still a bit of a dry cough|1 Not to rain on the parade I literally cheered out loud the other day when I saw 2 more provinces in China turned white on the map 0 cases But I just learned that since Feb 14 people who tested positive without showing symptoms are no longer counted as confirmed cases Source httpswwwyicaicomnews100505273htmlhttpswwwyicaicomnews100505273html Which means in the past 3 days there could be new cases but not reported If you search in weibo you can find local reports of new cases not a lot thank god but its not all sunshine and rainbows as it seems Honestly I dont understand why they chose to do this they have been doing a great job containing the virus Now I dont know what to think of the numbers anymore I just hope those invisible carriers have been properly quarantined|1 Thats because weve had so many warnings of disasters over the years that affected only fairly localized areas of the country The press made ebola sound like it was going to infect nearly all of us yet it was quite limited in the US We get weather warnings run to the store to stock up like the sky is falling and nothing happens or maybe 4 inches of snow Oops Y2K people were super worried about it Took precautions Nothing happenedSo now we have this virus and Im pretty sure it is the real thing after decades of false warnings its the one that will be affecting us as well as much of the world Health wise and economically But its difficult for people to accept that this time after so many other false warnings of disaster is realThe Boy Who Cried Wolf Childrens story but so true|1 I was under the impression that this is complicated by cardiomyopathy At least thats what some folks down in rmedicine seem to thinkAnd the question of heart failure from complications of ARDS hasnt really been resolved yet|0 Thats an ARB Might want to show the Lancet article to your dr|1 I mean sure But what cruise boat would want to offer freecheap distraction in the cabin when they aim at getting the guests to spend money in their ships shopsrestaurantsdancingscasinos and whatever Actually I think for the older generations this would just be a refreshing replay of the old days were these were all the options that one had on a regular vacation You know that saying that children need to be bored to become creative I reckon lots of people are about to get creativeThats actually how more than one artistwriter was born being bed bound and bored to death|0 no it wasnt primarily about economic consequences or racism Its about monitoring who came from where If we blocked people flying in from China a month ago the act makes no impact on the people flying in from say Korea or Iran which no one knew were hotspots Instead screenings and flight tracking was used which is what the WHO and our authorities suggestedGive you a better example Despite the US and Australia closing borders they still have cases Its impossible to contain and closing borders wont do jack shit practically|0 I am convinced that this SARS2 virus will become endemic The way it has been handled we wont contain it apart from lack of proper information on a broad scale people either do not take it serious enough or are just uninformedselfishstupid to ignore the risks associated with it No I do not think we will be doomed or society will stop but it will become the new normal additional to Influenza SARS2 will take an almost equal share of deaths each yearWe learned one thing from our past we learned that we do not learn from our past|0 Most of the cases here in Denmark are people who went to Italy Its a bad idea to go there especially the northern parts|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I think you have a good head on your shoulders try to resist the alarmism in these comments The school is taking appropriate measures and staying there will be her safest bet as she doesnt have a guaranteed way out for now There is no reason they would run out of food and supplies and even if she contracts the virus if shes healthy she will most likely be fine|1 But there are literally states not doing tests Colorado could be one of the least infected states while others have cases all over that arent being counted Its like homelessness unemployment or lots of other things You can make it look better by not counting it or counting it poorly lol|1 Our culture of keep calm and carry on with coming into work ill is coming back to haunt us It feels obscene to take 2 weeks off work for what might be an illness youd usually be expected to work with|0 The United States is an economic zone with a mercenary army which sells its service to the highest paying lobby This is not a serious country I wouldnt count on this government to protect you its priorities will always be determined by leaders of the GDP cult|1 Then stay the fuck home|0 So theyll pass swine flu deaths tomorrow then probably|0 In a communist state justice is decided by the party The party decided against justice|1 Yeah dont go unless its absolutely necessary Not worth the risk|1 but how long will it take before the UK Italy and the US realize thisThey can realize all they want but it is meaningless when nothing can be done Other countries are going to have a hard time doing what China does in terms of containment|0 china literally doesnt count people testing positive for coronavirus as having coronavirusWu Zunyou the chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Beijing who helps to implement the guidelines says that they have always required that positive cases not be counted as confirmed caseshttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41586020004345so we dont actually know if there are tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions more caseschina lied about it vilified the expertsclamped down on society with authoritarian measuresis using the virus politicallyand still lying about numbersall while tons of people got sick and died and it spread around the world xi jinpings cruelty and incompetence have endangered the whole planet|0 I saw an old guy in McDonalds today in Zurich Just me and him why is he still out and about he should he hiding in his bunker He looked like he was in his late 80sI had no choice I leave tomorrow and had no food in he was just drinking coffee reading a paper|0 Oh have they lowered it already damn stuff moves so fast|0 I have zero experience with guns if I acquired one now Id be more likely to accidentally shoot myself in the foot than anything else Im also pretty sure that emotionally Id be unable to harm someone who is sick and starving and needs help Maybe it would be different if a person was stealing from or harming others just for their own enjoyment but the thought of hurting my neighbor because theyre low on food while Im doing fine is just Im not sure Im capable of that Im not sure I want to be capable of that Thats probably the reason why my food preps are always far beyond what my household reasonably needs Id rather band together with my neighbors for mutual support than sit high on the hog while others starve Its come in handy in the past during natural disasters when I had plenty of food but no propane for the stove my neighbors had propane but little food and the other neighbors didnt have either but did have a generatorpower station thingie for charging phones I could have sat alone in the dark eating my cold can of beans instead I sat with friends eating warm food and was able to call my parents to tell them I was safe Even if this does become much more serious cooperation and mutual aid are things that exist|0 Every play sim city and then get board and unleash typhoons and Godzilla and shitWhat if that simulation was real and whats happening in the world is karmaPs Im high as balls|1 The mortality rate for SARSCoV2 is abnormally high for a coronavirus It is 6 by the raw numbers no accounting for unreported recoveries with 3 as the lower statistical bound presuming absurd levels of unreported recoveries To get the mortality down to 2 there would have to be 280 unreported cases with 100 recovery 280 unreported recoveries means 252000 unreported infections This cannot happen once the mortality exceeds about 11000 because you would get a death and it would get reported then people in the area would start getting tested et al An unreported rate over 100 doesnt seem plausible to me but I dont really know If someone had studied the SAR or MERS outbreaks and knows what the final unreported was that would be helpful to gain perspective|1 The budget that proposed those cuts wasnt accepted|0 We are doing fine She said she would call if she got any news and she hasnt so I am assuming we are in the clear I plan to get in touch with her tomorrow|1 Depending on how fast it crests it could be under 1 or pushing 10 Why they are trying to slow it down once you start getting into the 10s of thousands infected you strain the infrastructure and people who could have been saved start dropping South Korea is rapidly approaching this number|0 Hey remember that document the current regime wipes there ass with the Constitution We the fucking people put them in power Italics added We deserve to know what the threat is and where its coming from I trust the current gang in power less then I do Putin and Kim they have more brains then the lot of them|0 There has to be a balance between lying to prevent chaos and giving info to make sure people are informed of the threats|0 Ah I see Thanks|1 I am not sure if national quarantines are feasible in short or long termthe economic damage might cause worse misery than the virus ever could The young crowd seems to do very well with the virus We should consider isolating the elderly and the immunocompromised but the rest of us should continue life pretty normally aside from some social distancing Also erect covid specific makeshift hospitalsThere is simply no real feasible end game to these heavy quarantine measures|0 If there is 1 death and we assume 14 day incubation period although some cases are more like 28 then it means the virus has been there for at least 14 days|0 I came to Europe for a huge tourism conference in Germany ITB Berlin and the cancellation was so disappointing I understand why theyd cancel it but its sending signals to tour operators everywhere that they should be panicking|0 He posted on twitter a family was trying to go from Guizhou to Chongqingand they drove over a bridge and when they arrived to Chongqing the officials wouldnt let the family in because the wife is from Guizhou They drove back and Guizhou wouldnt let the guy back in because the guy is from Chongqing even though they had just left from there Every Chinese citizen has government issued ids saying where they are from So they are literally stuck on a bridge They also have a baby with them They have to call around and ask for help from connections China is a mess because of this virus|0 Oh shit man I was writing a comment asking you for a source because I thought 3 hours airborne was really sensationalist but that does seem to be the new stats Just ShitThey found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air up to four hours on copper up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steelhttpstimecom5801278coronavirusstaysonsurfacesdaystests|0 Especially since its cold and flu season and the symptoms of a mild to moderate case just come across as a bad cold or a mild flu Everyone sees the folks dying of pneumonia on the news so they come to the conclusion that their cough and light fever is just the common cold|0 Thats because they blame the messes they have created on millenials|0 Its an evolutionary adaptation that worked when we were 1000 people on the savannah but it doesnt work when were 75 billion all over the globe The early hominid that sat around thinking about the future calculating risks and doing exponential math was the first to get eaten The ones that survived were those that valued empirical experienceThe problem is that empirical experience doesnt work with a pandemic that has exponential growth and the ability to threaten the global social and economic system The same can be said of climate change by the time we see the effects whether its rising seas or thousands dead from COVID19 its already too late|0 I doubt that very much|0 Most people are saying its because hes rich which sounds like bs imo he came into contact with a celeb that was positive around the time he was in contact with her apparently|1 Am I the only one who likes microwave lasagna Stouffers has that shit on LOCK|0 I think they expect there will be too many cases to keep reporting them individually At what point to you cut off individual tweets When you have to tweet one tweet per secondThe only way to report this will be as one document once a week|0 A key point here is what is known as flattening the curve There is little chance now that we can stop the virus all we can do is slow the rate of infection this gives time to develop a vaccine but more importantly it means that hospitals and health centers are less likely to be overwhelmed by large numbers of patients This is important not just for treating patients with the virus but also other people needing medical treatment that may not be able to because of all the virus patients or the health staff off work due to the virus|1 MAYBE DONT HAVE THE FUCKING SOUNDERS GAME SATURDAY dense fucks|0 No we are talking|0 Theyve greatly increased their testing capacity in the last week|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17581 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 udylantherabbit2016 at 7296 nices44 uHashmannannidan at 238 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 I wonder how much u have to pay for this stuff|0 Agreed|1 This 63 is an overall number from all age groups Im not an expert but it seems pretty obvious to me that such a person would be influenced by two factors preexisting conditions increasing their chance of death and young age decreasing it Where exactly would it place them Most probably somewhere between 02 to 63 but very hard to say exactly|0 Simping for amazon |1 Victim blaming the nurse when they are wrong about the level of protection of the equipment is just despicable|0 Homeless they walk everywhere They go into stores and shop they sleep on the streets bushes underground tunnelsif your city has them like Vegas and any other place They will catch it not get help and spread it because they are everywhere Sure they are not on the airplanes but they do take public transits|1 Well theyve almost certainly got it Whats the point of testing them People are acting like testing is a cure All it would do here is confirm what youre already 99 sure of|1 Are you telling me that I cant just wear a mask and become immune to the disease|1 Ngl a coup or uprising is seeming more and more like a good idea|1 Yes but dont you see That cant be a real danger because the MARKET said it was a good idea for the whole world to ship its production to one totalitarian half just above 3rd world level place So we have nothing at all to worry about s|1 Ugh No symptoms doesnt mean not infected or transmissable CDC and news need to be very clear|0 STOP TRAVELING UNLESS ITS AN EMERGENCY I work at an airport bar and Im fucking sick of having to be open because people are choosing to be selfish and travel|0 Theyre just there to help with masks and stuff though s|1 Agreed I planned back in February Started telling my friends and family to start prepping I got mocked and laughed at Now that their precious sports have been taken away they are like oh shit what do I do now Had several friends tell me they wished they would have listened to me especially the one in California Asking me for tips and what not My dad and mom still arent taking it serious Dad thinks vitamin c and eating veggiesfruits are going to be the cure Also he thinks its some wide conspiracy that the media is putting on My mom is pissed that I canceled my weekend trip home to visit I was in close contact with people from different states due to work|1 Do you think there would be more ventilators if Hillary was President or something I dont get posts like this|0 Youre right but the bad deeds of some people will bring punishment to all whom are around The Chinese government mistreated some of their people the Uyghurs and this is a kind of punishment|0 The rest of the world Literally no one cares|1 I did watch it Him saying the Dems and media are playing it up and making it look as bad as possible to try to score political points is accurate He didnt call it fake news and he didnt call it just like a flu or at least not without also saying it could possibly be much worse Why choose that soundbite and not another in that case He also didnt solely blame it on the democrat debate he mentioned that as an aside although obviously thats wrong|0 Only if Pence manages to pull together a really good advisory team and somehow doesnt turn it into an even more epic fiascoOtherwise our great and wise leader will point at the covfefe boy and say I hardly knew him|1 Yeah We are fucked|0 Americas health care system is entirely forprofit and very fucking broken and the coronavirus is basically going to expose how fucked up Americas health care is just as it has done on Chinas pollution production Everybody knew all along because its obvious but it just takes these events to show stats|0 Its an ever growing list from around the globe as slight changes occur Totally useless for you and I but helpful for people studying the structures and working on vaccines tests and related treatments|1 Cleaning catering and receptionists wouldnt be needed if everybody was at home though hopefully they would still be paid|1 Why should the owner pay for work not done Its all charity anyway might as well nationalize employment halting and cover everyone which would prevent economic collapseWhy not take that 15t trump gave away and make sure everyones paycheques keep rolling so all the potential damage to the economy is mitigated|1 Take another look Hes arguing that essentially no news source CNN Fox whatever is reliable Throw in the wake up and it struck me as a voice for anarchy But no I dont seriously think hes Russian just a crank|0 So hes 67 has had it for weeks and feels fine|1 Its like overnight weve had an influx of 100000 redditors who havent been part of the conversation for the past 2 weeks and just want to post a dumb question or one thats already been answered 100 times|0 He has always had a very very BIG problem with that|0 Thank you And nope|1 For years I have kept a container of antibacterial wipes in the car door pocket specifically Wet Ones or the generic and wipe my hands and card off after pumping fuel drive thru shopping etc Also take them when traveling to wipe off arm rests tray table etc No shame here as its kept me healthy and well for a long time|0 Im just curious Is your family all of average health What were the ages like of your family that may have contracted it I know its not certain to have been covid19 but Im just wondering how comparable to a normal flu it was in your opinion|0 God I hope thats the case|1 Thousands upon thousands of tragedies it is so sad iamwithchinesepeople|0 Im not from Italy but Id personally say its too early to say the outbreak in China is slowing but Italy could see and epidemic hit them Just be safe and wash your hands|1 Absolutely At this point we will never track down all of the transmissions in OntarioAlthough missed the window is a sad bit of understatement We had months of warning with whole countries locking down to delay the spread of infection and it should have given us plenty of time to prepare for this Theres really no excuse for us to be in this situation when other countries were given much less warningAs for the limited testing supply and capacity it is not too late for Canada to swiftly ramp up our testing abilities so that places which are not yet in the community spreading phase like Newfoundland or Manitoba can begin targeted prevention Ontario will also need the data from these tests to understand when it is safe for kids to return to school and how to prevent a second wave of the virus from crippling us againWe could have saved a lot of suffering by taking action sooner but that doesnt mean it is futile to start now|0 Im young and healthy but yes I hope to avoid getting it as long as possible|1 Ive been poor most of my adult life Ive learned what you can and cant live without and toilet paper is far down on that list The thing I worry about is malnutrition not starvation mind you but depending on how much our supply chains collapse and where you live amongst many variables You might start to see people get stuff like scurvy accidentally Most of our staple crops dont provide anywhere near like balanced nutrition if eaten exclusively Thats all Im counting on making it into the grocery stores|0 I have been commenting back and correcting them Its not going well People hate being afraid and if youre saying things that freak them out youre an ass hole and fear mongering|0 Hey lots of people havent seen it especially because its old I dont want to ruin their experience I didnt like it the first time I saw it way back then Second time I loved it Itd be like ruining The Last Dragon for people Sho Nuff|1 Yes good point That and the size of the Sainsburys are what caused me concern enough to post this|1 What happens if they cancel it and the virus just fizzles out|0 Yes it doesnt Dunno why youre being downvoted though I think you did not pray hard enough for upvotes|1 It isnt that bad However cdc are federal workers and get paid the same rate per grade as everyone The biggest determining factor in salary is locality pay and the locality pay for Atlanta metro area is very low compared to other places like chicago If you compare cost of living of chicago to atlanta they arent much different However the pay federal locality Chicago is much higher than Atlanta|1 A pen pal would be fun but given how many places a mail truck goes I would not risk it|1 maybe if people would be neutral to the Situation but instead they start to make fun and so on|1 Dont get your hopes up We canadians are builing a wall we heard there was a progression of evangelicals marching toward our border|0 Im doing the same I have reusable masks wfilters for my immediate family The box of n95 masks I have Im now saving specifically for my local hospital They announced in the local paper they were good on supplies but I figured if we start getting cases Ill check with them myself The local EMTs may need them too soon enough I hope other people are thinking like this as well|1 Yes The body aches are pure agony My doctor prescribed codeine as I was exhausted but just couldnt sleep because I was in so much pain|0 Ah okay Thanks for clarifying Its just very interesting that they both share similar demographics and were admitted at the same hospital Hmm|1 Thanks for the input Brenda|1 Kudos to you for being so responsible|1 And then you fuck and keep calling each other exes|0 That makes complete sense This virus is highly contagious and even if the staff at a particular place dont have the virus there Id more chance their customers will|0 I just mean the rate should be higher in an enclosed space like a cruise ship Recycled AC water etc|1 Also dont get me wrong I wish the rate was below 1 But with data coming from everywhere but China below 1 does not seem to be likely Older patients are often the loveliest people and I dont want the government to betray them|0 he should have resigned or been fired|0 Probably 0 Noone is saying that the rest of world is totally in the clear only that it is a small relief that the first round of infected has not yet caused another huge wave of cases|1 Thats probably over 50 of the worlds population You aint special just because your 20 and healthy|1 The expanse covers this pretty well from a futurology perspective|1 Exactly I have a reusable mask had one for painting anywayIf I aint infected I cant spread it anyway Sure its an issue with the valve if I am but I was and never am going to spend the same as a cars cost on enough masks to last Its that or no mask which doesnt help anyone|0 Not to burst the bubbles of good news about recovery those with recoveries have been found to have damaged lungs and immune system|1 Its literally the best reporting we could hope to get out of Iran right now Is the standard so high that if we cannot quadruple vet every single claim that we just need to skip it No one holds the American media to that standard They make shit up all the time I am sad for the people of Iran|0 How is this a war time economy You are in lockdown and its horrible it really truly is but please you still have a home and a country and loved ones War is a completely different terrifying beast Please do not confuse hardship with war and wartime economy Much love to you all in Shanghai but this is a virus not war This is a virus economy not war I never want or wish upon anyone to witness and experience the economy of war A wartime economy is losing your state your home your life you still have that Be proud of what you do have China has been through hell and many brave people survive but its not Syria you have homes and a country|0 Well they did prevent 99 of cases by taking action Thats a lot more than can be said about the West|1 And I care more about DA than both your dads|1 ok ill guess that itll end up in a warehouse and the fda will take 10 years to approve them|0 Gotcha Haha I was like that name sounds familiar|1 WHAT KIND OF FUCKING MORON ARE YOUthe us reacted fast It STILL hasnt reacted at all Other countries are closing schools and quarantining entire regionsFuck you and your ignorance|0 yes|1 You mean by Jeff asking employees to donate their sick pay to each other|0 Im not as qualified as many others on here but Ive heard many say that if a virus is too deadly it can impede on its sustainability across a population Maybe someone could follow up in a more indepth manner or correct me if Im wrong|0 Ugh the QA part was like 99 on the table just like Justin kept saying That is the fucking annoying part its like Ontario waiting on the Feds and the Feds are waiting on the Provinces to make a move|1 I wish you luck then mate|1 You think half the population is rich Objectively what is a rich person to you|1 httpswwwmiccomptrumpsfundslashingpreventsthecdcfromfightingoutbreakslikecoronavirus21769152In 2018 Trump tried to cut 65 million from this budget a 10 reduction In 2019 he sought a 19 reduction For 2020 he proposed to cut federal spending on emerging infectious and zoonotic diseases by 20 This would mean spending 100 million less in 2020 to study how such diseases infect humans than the US did just two years ago Congress reinstated most of this funding with bipartisan support But the overall level of appropriations for relevant CDC programs is still 10 below what the US spent in 2016 adjusting for inflation Dr James Wilson who led the team that provided warning of the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic describes the need for global infectious disease forecasting Even worse in 2018 the administration disbanded its own global health security team which was supposed to make the US more resilient to the threat of epidemics This unfortunate decision was part of a reorganization that former national security adviser John Bolton carried out shortly after arriving at the White House Bolton eliminated the National Security Councils global health security and biodefense directorate and reshuffled its team of worldclass infectious disease experts In response two highly respected leaders in the field Rear Admiral Tim Ziemer the NSCs senior director for global health security and biodefense and Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert left the White Housecant make this shit up|1 I hadnt realized that the position of Surgeon General had been politicized What a hack Hell regret those comments in about three days|0 Meds was ridiculously deadly at 35 861 dead2500 infected I dont know why it wouldnt be on the list|0 Yeah great news they are well despite facing some trouble along the way Sure they must be exhausted|1 No when we speak of droplets and aerosol as pathways for infection we mean two distinct thingsBut its also not what you said|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Yeah I find that India and Russia are eerily silent|1 Why are you spamming this Reddit with the same message acting like you are from china when a couple of days ago you were talking about how youve bought masks and goggles and how the Chinese have been sneaking through checks|0 Sure But the past three days have only gone up 2k or so on Hubei province Been a steady rise Hasnt slowed but hasnt sky rocketed|1 lol|1 Its like shaking a magic eight ball|1 IIRC its similar to NATO All member governments of the WHO pay into a fund in small increments If that fund gets activated it is shared amongst all participating nations though not evenly and definitely not all at once These funds are given to the affected areas as assistance for equipment labor etc based on how dire the circumstances are in that area If these funds get depleted by a significant amount that means the governments will have to replenish it We cant just sit on a depleted emergency fund for a few years What if 2021 brings a new pandemicNo country wants to pay a larger amount into the emergency funds because to them its like you and I paying a utility bill Its there it gets paid but its usually no big deal However what if your extended family comes and take 10 showers a day runs the heat at 90 degrees and the children turn your light switches into strobe lights Your bill is going to be huge Youd rather they leave you alone and bother someone else so you dont have to deal with the fallout Make sense|0 Id argue it ls usually the English Theyre the ones with the arrogant imperial empire mentality|0 Obviously BPM should be taken at rest BPM in the 90s is not worrying if you just ran up the stairs to the medicine cabinet|1 Similar numbers in South Korea 2029 2330 cases 0 died 3039 856 cases 1 died 4049 1164 cases 1 died|0 Not all corporations are doing nothing at least The company I work for implemented quarantine on their own accord a while back USA They need healthy people to do work so its only logical that they would implement steps to keep people safe Too bad it sounds like it hasnt been a common practice for all businesses|1 Well luckily every other world leader has been totally honest and forthcoming with the world and the situation Take a look around no one is saying shit more than they have to Behind scenes they are probably freaking out stone walls to the public though The politicians and public health officials have no intention of giving it to you straight any more than they ever did in noncrisis times|1 I have it and Im at home bored terrified that Ill be there soon anyways|0 All truth passes through three stages First it is ridiculed Second it is violently opposed Third it is accepted as being selfevidentArthur Schopenhauer German philosopher misquotedparaphrased from his book The World as Will and Representation|0 While unnecessary fear is a bad thing I thank Reddit for being one step ahead of the news Fans of Nassim Taleb will recognize the Covid19 as a likely Black Swan Society is enormously complicated and this virus is a huge stress test Taleb points out we are terrible about predicting the future but are extremely confident in rationalizing the past Until we get this virus behind us we are consigned to alternately underestimating and overestimating its effect on our institutions our economy and our health|1 So interesting thanks|1 Here is the fourstage strategy from Yes Prime MinisterStage one Nothing is going to happenStage two Something may be about to happen but we should do nothing about itStage three Maybe we should do something about it but theres nothing we can doStage four Maybe there was something we could have done but its too late now|1 No one is forcing you to work dude Just quit your job|0 I work in surgery and was just told theres a chance Im furloughed When all of this is over I hope people start taking an emergency fund more seriously I know I will|1 CANT COUNT WHAT YOU DONT TEST Lol|0 The one time I find myself doing it is when Im having trouble turning a page I cant break the habit|0 Everything he is saying is common knowledgeIt was rumored Israel developed bioweapons that left those of Jewish heritage untouched Sort of like smearing lambs blood over the door mantle ehUnfortunately I think Muslims and Jews have a shared ancestryhttpswwwwiredcom199811israelsethnicweaponhttpswwwwiredcom199811israelsethnicweaponIsrael is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected according to a report in Londons Sunday Times The report citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus|1 Its not the fact that two people are dead its that the first reported cases are deaths Meaning that there are likely hundreds of more cases in the country if not more The concern is with the further potential spread that this might lead to and how it could affect people that dont have the luxury of being able to go for a jog after work because they physically cant do it|0 I have ordered 2 boxes of food items from Amazon Pantry delivered to my door and going to order a few more |1 Reading this infuriates me|0 How about sartans like Losartan From the limited amount I read it seems that acereceptor blocking sartans actually provide some level of protection against SARSCoV2|0 Maybe as Im on mobile Firefox on my laptop works fine |1 That sounds really sensible I went for a walk in the forest yesterday and it felt great to get fresh air breathe in the smells of trees and ferns and green things It gets stuffy indoors physically and mentally so I think its super important to go outside while taking all the necessary appropriate precautions|1 When will this increased testing capacity start to go in to play|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I guarantee that healthcare orgs and providers along with state officials are absolutely not running anything by Mike pence Hes just the useless scapegoat Trump assigned in his stead to take the fall when this all goes sideways|0 this is not true from what i have read in the spanish flu people who survived the first wave were immune from the second wave in fact people who survived the spanish flu kept antibodies for the rest of their livesyour reference of cytokine storm in the reinfected is rumored but far from substantiated it is not even clear you can be reinfectedif you have clear sources to support your position please post them otherwise check your facts before posting outrageous claims|0 Interstitial pneumonia can be permanent or temporary it depends on how your body recovers Like with anything when a part of your body is damaged it may heal it may not and it may take a long time I know this from experience I had bad bronchitis last summer and have had some residual asthmalike symptoms that have been very gradually improving over the past 8 months Not permanent but also not temporary like many of the coronavirus patients you are mentioning This isnt actually unusual with pneumonia Another interesting example my mother had tuberculosis when she was young with significant lung scarring This is considered permanent In fact it took her 15 years to heal but eventually she was fully recovered Theres actually a great degree of variation in terms of what is permanent and what is slowhealing especially when it comes to the respiratory system|1 Thank you I am sure Ill be fine but Im truly worried about my elderly grandparents in Indonesia|1 Hopefully youll never need to rely on your preps but it is indeed comforting to know you can huh I can definitely imagine a scenario in which I have to self quarantine for 23 weeks but doubt well see a whole breakdown of law and order But well see|1 Yes Im with you My hope is that all of this wakes the USA up to the reality that life is fragile on this planet We are not invincible And I hope that ultimately leads to some serious overhauls on social and environmental policy No one believes climate change will actually do what its projected to do just like no believed this virus could bring our economy to its knees I hope this is a wake up call for this countrys hubris that this will humble us and help us move forward as more caring generous creatures|1 Its not just China Im sure local authorities attributed deaths to causes other than the plague back in the 1600s|1 Hi Im not sure that its good idea to put more information in this infografic But there is chart Outside China Confirmed Cases on web version httpsstudylibnetcoronavirus|1 Hopefully all 700000 wont come at the same time|1 Yeah Its definitely a Tier 2 city Crowded developing and only recently came out of povertyGoing from province to province in China sometimes feels like going to another country given the disparities|1 Im not planning on dying But I feel like Ill die before the US government does anything that helps regular ass people|0 Excellent postthanks We agree on a lot of things|1 Not to regular vaping liquid but THC liquids afaik mostly from the black market In Europe this doesnt exist at allAnd those mostly black market vapes didnt increase the risk it seems they caused themselves terrible chemical pneumonia|0 Yes Im a nurse I did not go out buying up masks because I thought wed just have what we need at work|1 Ty|1 Theyre doing it to save money Protecting workers is secondary|1 Elon said the panic is stupid|0 You have a beautiful soul and shine your light on everyone This is great power not small power|1 or hundreds of millions assuming 4050 of people get infected like some experts are saying|0 Flu spreads presymptomatically though Part of why its so hard to stop|0 Better to get it and know you will be treated than to get it for no pay and not even be able to see a doctorSome fine options we are being posed with here in the wastelands|1 Yeah but beyond that you dont have to invent a process Its a biochemical test You go to your vendor and buy the reagents and follow the steps previously published by other researchers No invention necessary|0 I stay in a developing country where I know the healthcare quite outdated May I know what are the steps doctors take when they find a positive confirmed Covid19 patient I want to know what I am missing and how I can account for it if I can|1 These festivals bring in a lot of money for city organizers and politicians Until one of them backfires and infects a truckload of people I doubt they will be very aggressive at closing them Meanwhile executive and business conferences are being canceled all over the world Because the people with the money go to these things and they know whats up They will not tolerate that level of risk to themselves but dont give a shit about regular people when money is on the line|1 Yes But there is interplay between all these things that you and many others dont seem to understand if you change one variable there will be ripple effects even if the rest of the system hasnt changed Its a bit saying put olive oil in your engine Its still oil Itll be fine the radiator and coolant and all the other parts are the same I dont want to argue with you any further Do what you want to yourself But dont spread unverified treatments or preventative measures|1 Okay great so has every other world leader so far They have all put markets before livesJust because America is incompetent doesnt mean that the rest of the world is South Korea is doing an exemplary job Italy has been working around the clock to test cases and locate patient zero But those of us that have been here from the start actually want to see virus related stuff both inside and outside of the US These fuck trump threads that Americans are so obsessed with dont help anyone Stop spamming our feedsWhining about people whining about Trump doesnt make you better than people whining about Trump Youre derailing the conversation just as much|0 I hear you Some people at lot of them it seems are truly disgusting|0 Yeah good luck teaching a foreign keyboard that Ps patethic|1 No its already inadequate Its been inadequate for fucking weeks and everyone who has been paying attention knew it|0 Yep|1 I bet this person is a terrible driver cutting people off skipping rotation at 4way stops riding tailgates It makes me want to furiously accelerate to block their lane change just thinking about it|0 We had beef stew mashed potatoes and apple cobbler I didnt care for the other choices|0 Ive made one last attempt pointed out the NYC lawyer 1000 people now in quarantine 2 schools his children attend closed and the poor man was in critical condition last night I told them to go look it up A temple is also closed this is not an elderly personor a poor person could happen to anybodyDone if his story doesnt convince people a hammer on the head wouldnt either|0 Not anymore I read an account where a cancer patient was kicked out of her bed and sent home with no further treatment|0 If there was an actual emergency and society broke down you can bet these would be the first people killed for their resources|0 RMoneybut yeah he has been right and good thing he evaded CPAC this year that event was a goddamn petri dish|1 Unfortunate use of a Comma|0 Well they can loathe both countries for their approach|0 God bud I was joking The virus gone to your headChillllll out Im prepped and ready to go Im on your side bro calm dowwwwn|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 We do seem to have an incredibly weak response going on The talking heads say its serious be cautious avoid contact with sick people and now we have our first death but still no real measures to stop additional cases from entering the country undetected The federal governments website is still as of this posting only recommending Canadians avoid travel to China Iran and Italy|0 Yikes Im sure that was taken as a hmm whos got a calm head in this so nobody takes time off approach Im glad to hear you can work from home and all my best to you that you dont suffer any of the consequences from this buddy |1 Phone calls are useless unless you speak Punjabi Stand by the back door at midnight a man will approach you Say to him in a ludicrous Russian accent The flowers in Rostov are particularly fine this time of year He will reply Lemon is my favourite fruit Once these protocals have been followed you can tell him big fat sweaty Les sent you if he asks thats big fat sweaty Les with the limp not big fat sweaty Les with the hump That bit is important big fat sweaty Les with the hump is a right bastard and noone likes him If you still cant get a leopard I have some leotards you can buy if you need them|0 And there was also a news article about dumb ass youngsters traveling while prices are low Ignorance has no age race or gender divide Stop with the ageism|0 Im from London and think if these numbers are true then UK has been insanely lucky so far We had a case in LONDON and it managed to not be caught by anyone else Soooo lucky|1 Lol That entire statement is anecdotal That statement that n95 masks are proven to prevent being infected by coronavirus is bullshit Find me a single source a reputable source that proves it Again Masks help if youre ALREADY infected as it reduces what YOU spread If you are NOT infected they dont do shit Its not complicated Thats proven FACT btw Plenty of sources supporting what Im saying feel free to google it The rest of what you wrote im not even going to bother Its complete anecdotal bullshit Corelation does not equal causation I dont know anyone whos gotten infected with the virus and i dont know anyone wearing masks You see how that works Absurd train of thought spreading ridiculous misinformationFucking people on here are completely retarded Both sides have no idea what theyre talking about and just continue to spread bullshit|0 Yeah but shipping takes weeks if not months so all the stuff that wasnt made januarymarch will now not be arriving apriljuly|1 My sister is pregnant and due to deliver in the next few weeks Her and my mother both work in doctors offices and my sister also has a type 1 diabetic child To say Im nervous is an understatement|0 Its a completely rational attitude Virus only killing sick and old is a comforting thought for many people because a they arent sick and old so it means there is no serious danger for them b young people dying is obviously considered more tragic As much as we like to talk about how every life is equally priceless we dont really believe it and value human lives on the amount of time they presumably have left Ive been at the funeral of an 80 year old and a 17 year old I can barely recall the first one while the memories of the second still fills me with dread Were are generally prepared to see old and sick people die because thats the way of life But the thought of young people dying especially children is terrifying As well as our own death So it is completely logical to find confront on the idea that the virus is targeting a specific demographic|0 I think the key is that if you slow the spread theres a chance that the healthcare system can manage it They arent even pretending that majority of ppl wont get it anymore But the difference between everyone getting in one month vs over 6 months is substantial|1 Thankfully no Im not American|1 Same in Seattle and we have the most deaths People say they got bored staying at home and it doesnt seem like that big of a deal That shit makes my blood boil|0 A once in a lifetime opportunity To be at the front lines of a war To be the face of help and hope A story for your grandchildren or maybe just a lazy cat 100 people dye everyday in a car accident and yet we ponder little our trip to the store We are now collective once again as humanity The gravity of this I hard time pulls us out of routine and away from simple calm thoughts You can get there In to the groove of this present moment You can feel the weight of the day fall away into right now|0 No clearly he is multiple hedgehogs|1 Oh thats awful Im so sorry Hope you are okay and coping rn its a scary time Have family in hospital too not fun seeing the Gov mess around with lives like this Reach out if you want someone neutral to chat to online|0 because the republican party has spent the last 50 years making it as useless and incompetent as possible|0 Well What do you expect when President Trump defunded the CDC He is unable and unwilling to grasp the danger he put us in by doing so Now hes blaming Obama SMH|0 No hell below us|0 This is also happening in Australia The government is trying to spread COVID19 as part of their herd immunity genocide approach like the UK State health departments have stopped publishing where the confirmed cases are and people are unknowingly putting themselves at risk|0 WWE did it last night and it was pretty weird lol|1 So this is obviously bad But Im wondering what the balls is going on in Canada Bc we seriously have no coverage on this matter I dont even know if we closed doors to China or not|0 exactly hows that going to help that actual people that end up having to pay for their hospital bills even with insurance its gonna cost a fortune|1 Yeah it aint the best but its far from the worst Theres a capacity to how many tests can be done at once I think the lab in ontario can do 1000 a day which fits the numbers|0 No downvote for you on my end This needs to be shared more|1 Christ glad I live in CA A People in mass have worn masks before because of the wildfires B Because of our huge Asian population its normal No one bats an eye|1 does it rhyme with united states of metallica|1 Just an observation news on 26th 3 weeks ago which was when he likely first got infected was Feb 5thSuperbowl was Feb 2nd|0 Yes Already confirmed in Kirkland They back tested some of the samples of resident home members who died in feburary a higher than average number and several came back with covid19|0 1 wear a mask2 go to the doctor3 buy some 75 alcohol avoid contact your family and other people|0 Could the Chinese have exposed their own people to a bioweapon on purpose Sure But why would they do that The clearly know from the way they are trying to contain the outbreak that it is dangerous as hell so it doesnt make sense for them to dump it on purposeNow it is very likely that some scientist either screwed up or just decided to make a few extra bucks selling contaminated lab animals Given the Chinese will eat anything they can cook and sometime not even bother to cook well that would be a very likely way for it to have been releasedThe biggest problem with how China has behaved is the way they have tried to limit information about it|0 Ive been storing fat reserves for year for a situation like this|1 To me the WHOs just losing credibility anyways with their statement that is clearly tailormade to please China though|1 Not sure what youre talking about Massive Healthcare In the US What does that mean We have a lot of good doctors For the rich Most Americans avoid the doctor as much as possible because its not affordable|1 Ironic|0 Kids are good but grandma is screwed|0 Honestly it wouldnt surprise me at this point lool I was on Twitter the other day and stumbled upon a tweet by a Trump supporter who was questioning whether Tom Hanks really has the coronavirus and is faking it to cover up for him being a paedophile like where the hell did that come from all of a sudden I mean the shit some of these people believe never fails to amaze me|1 double standardsinferiority complex Also equating what israel does to white supremacy Wot|1 I get the sentiment I truly do we must not stoop to his levelIf a vaccine is found it must be made available to everyone|1 Their formatting is off and periods at the end of sentences arent there It should read like thisPARTICIPANTS A total of 1775 patients with COVID19 including 206 dead cases from Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital Wuhan China were recruited Another 113 and 285 patients with COVID19 were respectively recruited from Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University Wuhan and Shenzhen Third Peoples Hospital Shenzhen China MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES Detection of ABO blood groups infection occurrence of SARSCoV2 and patient death RESULTSx200BAfter the RESULTS there is where my above quote starts So it appears that 206 people died not the entire patient population that they are drawing from|0 All I see from people are memes about the flu being worse|0 Link to WSJ opinion piece determined to be racist by the Chinese government China Is the Real Sick Man of Asia Its financial markets may be even more dangerous than its wildlife marketshttpswwwwsjcomarticleschinaistherealsickmanofasia11580773677modsearchresultspage1pos3|0 Covid19 affects old people the mostnot too many kids have gotten seriously ill The median age of people in Italy is 46 The median age in Egypt is 24 Perhaps having a much younger population will somewhat limit the death rate|0 If we all did this for the last month there would be no problem with food if we all had at least 4 weeks worth to eatIve been telling folks this for weeks who have laughed at meTheres no harm having enough tinned food at home to last you a few months Tinned food can last decadesWhy anyone wouldnt have a store of tinned food is beyond my compensation|0 They have history on their side The 1918 pandemic wreaked havoc on native and indigenous peoples around the world and only settlements that enacted total quarantines were spared 8 of Tongas population and 5 of Fijis population died In Western Samoa 30 of the adult population succumbed to the pandemic Entire native villages across Alaska and northern Canada were wiped out|0 Please dont listen to them Huddle inside with your food and tp They will believe you sooner or later|1 Its gonna crash no matter what he does|0 Get a couple of firearms as well if you want to be safe If push comes to shove hopefully it never does youll need a way to protect the 60 day supply and the two fueled up quads|1 Have you been diagnosed with covid19 For me as European I just dont get this US healthcare system I mean I literally dont understand how it works I heard you have to pay for ambulance emergency That makes no sense So if you are poor you cant afford ambulance|0 Sickening Exploiting endangered animals is beyond irresponsible|0 Nice Thanks for sharing|1 Glad you recovered and I appreciate the update and insight thank you|1 Isnt it true that the recovery rate is higher than the death rate|0 Im just commenting to say I like your username|1 Ya okay random moron on the internet vs statement from the Provincial government Keep your empty head in the sand if that helps you sleep at night Not going to hold your hand and teach you how to use a search engine You are a liar and full of shitSince you are clearly too stupid to search yourself is this reliable enough for you Took 5 seconds to google thishttpswwwpublichealthontariocaenlaboratoryservicestestinformationindexwuhannovelcoronavirus|0 No it obviously wouldnt have the antibodies unless you had Corona when you pumped it|0 This applies only to Columbia Gas and Ohio Edison but I have emails from both of them stating that there will be no shut offs nor late fees if youre out of work because of quarantine|0 i have to agree when is this thing supposed to hit im all for caution but i literally dont know anyone whos even sick dad 77YO had a cold and is better FYI boston area cure worse than the disease|0 I keep getting reminded of a George Carlin bit lately The planet is fine the people are fucked|0 No its not fine it hasnt been fine Youre semiretarded if you think this Odds are that many more people than China has reported are dead people have been trapped inside for weeks their food has come from the government critical chemical factories are shutdown so pharmaceuticals arent being made in IndiaIf you think things are fine youre living in the dark Wuhan has endured a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions for a month|0 Yes Im done searching it up every other minute Im going to focus on the positives Im just waiting for a case to show up in Virginia thats why I keep checking back but then I get sucked into a negative hole|0 You can do plenty Quarantine him to his bedroom yourself for at least the recommended 14 days Explain the severity to everyone in your household Youre the parent Who cares if a test says hes positive for it when all the symptoms are present There have been several advisories to treat it as a positive if someone is sick and not to the point of needing hospitalization because there just arent enough tests or hospital beds at the moment and carriers going in public spaces or around those with compromised immune systems are going to be the reason this gets much much worse|1 Good movie Morbid af I watched it on YouTube and the comments were very interesting A lot to f people were actually old enough to remember all the stupid dont panic misinformation The government sent a bunch of nice little leaflets of utter bullshit xD I can definitely see how you can relate our current governments attitude to that If anything its exactly the same we were lucky the whole thing in that situation DID blow over and we didnt face any or much consequences from it But in this case its a sickness it doesnt fucking care what the British attitude is And sadly a lot of people have that same child like trust that we dont need to worry or be reasonable because big daddy government will do all the work for us|1 Keep yourself safe my friend|1 He needs someone to take the blame at the top|0 This is next level wtf almost on par with Elon Musk|0 Looks like it may be with quarantined communitieshttpswwwredditcomrkotakuinaction2commentsf8znvkreddittotakeactionagainstuserswhoupvoteFYI I stickied my retarded comment and it unsticked yours Sticky yours again so others can see this thread|0 I drank a case of corona and the next day I didnt feel too good Do I have it|0 Im self employed one of 3 owners with 34 employees If we shut down especially if we pay our employees it is going to wipe out my savings|0 man im straight up getting better and more up to date information watching fucking cnbc than i am cnnmsnbcfox etc its fucking disgusting that greedy corporate whores like insurance ceos are providing more reliable information about fucking test kits than the regular fucking news makes it real hard to not get on board the i want to watch it all burn train|0 Keyword wasWay too late for testing in the USA nowCat is out of the bag Horse has bolted the stable No point testing now because youre never going to be able to test track and quarantine THAT many people Especially when the testing takes days and were already in the growth phase|1 I hope that this is as good as it seems The next week will tell us a lot and this is a good beginning Fingers crossed|1 Agreed fuckem you did the right thing|1 Thing is if we responded quickly the situation wouldve been much milder and everyone wouldve been all why the fuck did we cancel everything for no reason the coronavirus was a joke|0 the United States calls itself the Worlds only super power yet cant figure out how to properly test its citizens for the coronavirus|1 Im afraid to inform you that youre incorrect and inevitably wont understand whatever youve attempted to readI had a sensible chuckle The vast majority of someones potential exposure to Coronavirus is through droplet exposure which is very large and stopped by a surgicalcomfort mask and easily stopped by an N95 Viruses are generally under 001 micrometres Had you read you would have seen that the Coronavirus is 0125m which is much smaller than the 25m filtering size It isnt the smaller particles that get you It can be any virus or bacteria and it is the amount of them that get past your primary defenses skin mucous in the mucous membrane hairs in your nose etc that cause a greater risk of infection Had you read the article you would realize that particles much smaller than the 25m are filtered Respirable particles above 06 m in diameter are typically captured efficiently byinterception and inertial impaction Now we know that at 0125m Coronavirus is still smaller than the 06m above How are such tiny particle affected Because of the various mechanisms by which particulate filtration occurs the smallest particles are typically not the most difficult to filter Had you looked at the data and graphs you would see that at 0125m the lowest of the N95 respirators stopped 939 of particles that size and the average was almost 96 filtration The research refutes everything you stated Droplet precautions surgical mask or better goggles or face shield are enough to shield the average person provided they wash their hands before touching their face or eating anything In fact they are enough to shield the average health care worker who will also wear a gown and gloves to prevent carrying the droplets from one patient to the next which is why the CDC makes such recommendations The CDC isnt making recommendations for the public to wear masks because there arent enough masks If healthcare workers have to reuse the same mask all day they can potentially carry a virus on the outside of the mask from one patient to another In some hospitals even getting a mask to those who need it is hard to do because of supply issues If you want to argue that the average person doesnt need a mask as much as someone dealing with sick patients I would have no disagreement with you To say masks are ineffective though is incorrect which is why neither the CDC or WHO is saying masks are not effective If we had several hundred masks per person you better believe the CDC would be telling people to put them on Futhermore there is another issue you are missing out on People who have a respiratory illness flu cold COVID19 are less likely to spread that illness to others if they are wearing a mask This is why that every flu season CDC does recommend that all patients with any signs of respiratory illness wear a mask when in a setting with other patients waiting room of a clinic or ED This isnt guesswork It is evidence based best practice|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Better known as the Boomer virus San Fran got way to many of those|1 Please read this for more info httpswwwwhointhealthinfopaper30pdfhttpswwwwhointhealthinfopaper30pdf Criteria is based on25 for health DALEdisability adjusted life expectancy 25 for health inequality 125 for the level of responsiveness 125 for the distribution of responsiveness and 25 for fairness in financing|1 That has always been the preface for any country when it comes to things like this Am I wrong Admitting the issue will not lose you the face of those sympathetic Bravado is cool doesnt heal the sick|1 Oregon is scary right now We had 1 pretty much confirmed on Sunday and now there is only 3 No tests being done we have no idea the scope of the issue here Wouldnt be surprised if theres has been deaths caused by Coronavirus contributed to other things and these bodies are already buried Its sad man|0 Im not American Dont know why I got downvoted to hell for my accurate comment Slavery is legal over there if you have been convicted of a crime Its in the 13th amendment|0 Theres additonal things being worked on for small business relief|1 Plus no paid sick leave|0 I think many of us are saying similar but posts being posts things in posts dont always reflect clearly what were thinking tldr Its all good |1 With medical resource in capacity the death rate is low But once overwhelmed death rate growth dramatically I believe that is why in China provence other than Wuhan has death rate something like12 But dispite of mobilizing huge amount resource into Wuhan it still end up 5 If its the case when overwhelmed and without additional supportwell|0 Estimated death rate is about 2 highly dependent on age and other health conditionsHow does this compare with the flu And is transmission more likely than the flu|0 Dr John Campbell is now saying that the death rate from COVID19 is from 01 to 1 At the lower end it is just like the flu|0 The UK strategy is nicely summed up in this little video httpswwwfacebookcom100000126974264posts3380021232012076funlid2y2JUgWc3KqQqfQBhttpswwwfacebookcom100000126974264posts3380021232012076funlid2y2JUgWc3KqQqfQB|1 Profiting off of potentially life saving or at least virus delaying information|1 We already have a huge problem IMO Im sure theyll allow people some time to get home but they better be quick Its been bound to happen eventually look at every other country inevitably they need to stop the flow of people and start a quarantine Only real way to slowstop this|1 Never underestimate stupidity even for the military Two things are infinite the universe and humanstupidity and Im not sure about the universe Albert Einstein|1 Its better to quarantine even if its not effective in stopping the spread because it will slow down the spread Overwhelmed hospitals will see higher case fatality rates than otherwise and if we dont attenuate the infection wave fatalities will be worse For example this analysis suggest that Chinas quarantine was effective in reducing R0 but unfortunately not to below 1 httpstwittercomAdamJKucharskistatus1230253937263087616Eventually contact tracing will stop as the numbers will get too high but well move onto all symptomatic cases whatever the potential cause to self quarantine|0 endemic critical weakness of capitalism|0 What makes me angry is the people going to their physicians asking for a sample to be sent to a testing facility and the doctors dont understand whats happening so they say nope youre good then the person turns out to be positive days later This happened to me today I asked for a sample to be sent and my doctor told me to go to the emergency room and I can get a test their for 3000|0 So far it hasnt been established as airborne but likely can spread through aerosols and can stay suspended in the air for a period of time and might make it into ventilation but its unlikely to just linger in the air indefinitely like measles does|0 Maybe question his intelligence and competency It sounds mean but his annoyed behavior is meant to shut you up and change your behavior Hell only listen until it isnt convenient for him damn what you want You can frame it as he doesnt get to decide for you He can stay elsewhere Its not who is sick now its who is sick a month from now that payseta we are in a similar boat|0 They not completely isolated crew members are bringing them food And if there is infection among those crew members the quarantine time should be reset|1 arrest him and fine him at least 2000 dollars people like this need to be absolutely treated like shit toss him in a cell thats it there are pricks assholes and narcissists all over|0 The people doing the space travel thing and the people doing the break quarantine and cough all over the bus thing are not the same peopleId even argue that theyre not even the same subspecies|0 Interesting how the email they sent out mentions none of that only that they are keeping their stores clean have staff ready to handle network situations and that you can use whatever an Xfinity remote is to ask for info on Coronavirus|1 Ill try to use math to explain this one Lets assume 30k patients can be treated weekly at a hospital4 weeks of 30k new cases treated per week for a month equals 120k treated and zero dead due to lack of facilitiesx200B60k per week for two weeks equals 120k total with 60k unable to get treatment because there were no facilities to help them since the hospital can only do 30k per weekx200BWe need to have lower numbers spread out longer to not overwhelm hospitals If everyone ignores quarantine and doesnt shut things down we will have an explosion of transmission at the same time and that overwhelms the hospitals|0 Its about a flu that spread on Black Friday called DC62 They used bank notes to spread it giving it the nickname the Dollar Flu|0 My brother got chicken pox at 35 he was in bad bad shape You definitely wanted to get it over with before moving on to middle school at least thats the way it was in the 80s|0 Just a thought Arent we meanwhile entering the time where its important to also track down cases that are cured I mean sure valuable information about the spread but to put those numbers into perspective the number of infected but actually already cured patients is important too Please correct me if I am wrong Also Probably its even harder to keep track of those cases than the infections itself|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Some of what u said is bs Almost no cases in HK for 3 weeks You must be kidding Read news HK people take it seriously and they have much more supply of masks per capita than most of countriesregions with the help of repressive Chinese government|0 I bet smoking pot is the connection just think that sharing a joint or a bowl is the connection|1 Their parent company RELX annual reporthttpswwwrelxcommediaFilesRRELXGroupdocumentsreportsannualreports2018annualreportpdf say they have a 37 operating profit margin The average SP 500 percent is 10 Industry wide 20 is considered good to great 30 is obscene when you consider their source material is publicly funded|1 Not that Ive seen No recent international travel worked in Manhattan where there were also supposedly 0 cases Community spread|0 Whats the point of the test I mean she has Corona or likely the flu There is no real treatment for either Other than quarantine whats the point of knowing you have Corona|0 On Jan 24 he walked into a store and bought two N95 masks Was this possible I thought all masks have sold out by then Hope this inspires others to do the same Especially ironic part was the government shut down of that restaurant offering free meals to hospital staff|1 To explan the background in China China communist party members are potential leaders or already high rank authority in any organisation Many people use this hidden rule to gain their benefit Most Chinese know this hidden rule But in the party constitution there are several responsibilities Serve the people at the cost of everything Sacrifice everything to fight for people country and party Thats why putting the most powerful group to confront virus and talking so targeted can be sensitive|1 Over time people will realise its them not the healthcare system that is the solution|1 Interesting I wonder who was responsible for cutting the budget|1 Are they going to cancel anything or quarantine the island Because I havent found anything suggesting it but i need to put my worried to rest|0 This is great news|1 Gilead will sell 50 million Remdesivir prescriptions instead of 10000 If each prescription is 2500 thats 125 billion If it becomes endemic world wide then the revenue stream for Gilead is enormous they charge 20000 for one year of Truvada but that market at risk for contracting HIV is only a few million people|0 The utter lack of selfawareness by OP as they cite a front page NYT article as evidence that the coronavirus is a serious issue that major media isnt covering is astounding There are articles about the virus on the front page of the NYT the WSJ and the Post which are the three largest newspapers in the US Its not that theres no coverage its that OP doesnt read the news|0 Thank you for the information I was worried about that|1 So it hangs in the air for up to 3 hrs can be coughed over 2m maybe 45m both according to scientific papers Must be ineffective then|0 I laughed so hard when he was naming off the infected cases and he was like we uhh think this guy is ok How the fuck is there any uncertainty when everything is under control|0 nah this is suspected They only had 112 get confirmed today|0 Haha good luck curtailing the superintense work ethic that all the big Japanese companies have been encouraging for the past several decadesThis has changed in recent years and is now an often repeated thing on Reddit with much less substance People in Japan dont work much more than people in the US less if you believe some studies Anecdotally most of the people leave my building colocation between 56pm and I dont know anyone who works more than 40 hours a weekBut also yes theres still some dickhead black companies and nonsensical requests for overtimeEdit Thank you for the downvotes but do some research instead of being ignorant and giving further prominence to often regurgitated comments about Japan next time work hours are trending down and those working to death stories are the exception not the normAmazing how content people are to just upvote the same old tat about Japan and every downvote proves my point added httpswwwjilgojpenglishjlidocuments201901604pdfhttpsclockifymeworkinghours|1 Yeah the analysis breaks down once you account for the limiting factor of testing Its pretty obvious from the data here as between each date almost exactly 2000 new confirmed infections can be seen|1 I work as an intensive care specialist This is a difficult situation and Ill try to explain the thought process here I doubt this will be limited to Italy as this progresses Firstly please understand intensive care is a limited resource rooms ventilators and staff are key We cant easily create theseSecondly a young person and an elderly person have VERY different trajectories once they become critically ill Below is a generalisation but fairly common scenarioA young person lets say 3055 years with very few medical issues becomes critically unwell and is put into an induced coma to overcome this illness They are ventilated for a week the endotracheal tube breathing tube is removed and they go to the ward for a few days to a week and make it home This may be more or less complicated depending on complications Staffroomventilator use is roughly a week An elderly person over 70 75 with a few medical issues becomes critically ill and is put into an induced coma the same as above Their heart doesnt pump so well so they end up with extra medication to support their blood pressure They also are more likely to develop an arrhythmia abnormal heart rhythm and due to a heart working hard they have a small heart attack Their kidneys dont get the same blood flow they dont as well on a normal day due to age causing fluid retention and make their lungs soggy making it harder to remove the ventilator Their lungs dont work overly well due to exposure to second hand smoke and just simply age related change The medications to keep them sleeping for the ventilator cause hallucinations and delerium when they wake up They have a lower amount of muscle than the young person and quickly waste away and become very weak in the space of a week Two weeks on the breathing machine go by and there is a decision to do a tracheostomy breathing tube for the neck so they can be awake and still have the support of the ventilator The reason they need this is because their lungs are still soggy and wet with fluid they are too weak to breathe on their own and cant even stand under their own power They cant cough well and get bacterial pneumonia on top of their viral pneumonia They remain for another week They finally get to the ward after nearly a month in the intensive care and into the ward However they never recover enough to be independent and go to a nursing home There are multiple variations here strokes heart failure dialysis pressure sores other infections the list is massiveThose of us in the intensive care community are faced with this decision every day It is our duty to protect and appropriately allocate this resource During normal operation if a relatively healthy 80 year old gets pneumonia and needs the support we would admit and submit them to the treatmenttorture of intensive with a hope of a good outcome home and independent We cannot admit hundreds of 7080 year olds to a tertiary hospitals with coronavirus and ventilate them for 23 weeks when there are hundreds of younger healthy people who need the resource Its an unpopular decision but its a medical decision Not a government decision not a patient decision not a family decision but we absolutely take all those opinions into account when making the decision It is vital that the general community understands this There is a HUGE difference between admitting a young person vs an elderly person with the same illness Knowing what you know now who would you admit to your last three ICU beds with the last three ventilators How would you explain it to the six patients and their families|1 Not trying to freak anybody out Im at peace with whats going on Im beyond that phase Now is the time that I be there for others who will be blind sided by all of this|1 Well its not like they came up with a creative name How f retarded is to rename 2019nCoV to CoVID19 Like seriously now Why bother|0 I understand and agree But moving patients and equipment around is possible Having more equipment or fewer simultaneous infections will be much harder to manage if they dont stem spread in major areas ASAP Lots of public transport and close living situations makes it easy for numbers in SF to grow incredibly fast I imagine NYC is similar|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Fuck em Does it look like they care about you or me They dont care in order to protect their wallets Honestly if they cared for us even 1 from a scale of 100 Id careIf they dont like it they can delete it Specially that cheetos tiger cum covered Trump If my death or yours made them a penny theyd take that 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were they so unprepared 1 Its been basically known that eventually a big bad disease would hit Weve dodged tons of bullets but that was kinda lick 2 We literally saw China The CDC didnt think to start stocking up on supplies as a precaution when China was shutting down cities Or when epidemiologists were saying it was going to spread 3 I get its not just the CDCs fault but holy shit put out some statements about whats needed for preparation to pressure the rest of the government to act early No one wants to piss off politicians but we just needed a few scientists doctors at the CDC to be brave earlier|0 Yeah I dont believe it|1 So basically theyre using their colon as a filter to protect themselves|1 Not necessarily everyones excuse per se x200BMajority of republicanstrumpsters yes|1 I have oxygen with a medical regulator If you had such a thing would you say it would be helping a lot right now Im wondering if I should preemptively go and recharge the bottle in case im on my own 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disproving it maybe in the futureWe can ask people about it but it can be their program telling them the correct answerYes we all are just machines that process input data but in my opinion most people just go with the flow they never stop and question things they just continue going like animals do they dont have the insight of why they were doing things the way they were doing themThey behave according to their programme all the time On the other hand some people are capable of back engineering their thoughtsemotions Most people cant do this and these are NPCs to me they just go with the flow their whole life never stoppingAnd of course I am very biased in this and maybe I am just as oblivious as the NPCs are but I know most people dont analyze their emotions actions or thoughts and you have no way of disproving of what I am saying|1 Plus the whole herd mentality and doing it because everyone else is doing it Selfishness and mindless comes to mind not to mention how wasteful it is|0 My parents are very liberal and generally cautious boomers but they live part time in Florida When they were in Toronto until the end of February they were taking it super seriously but then they got down south and their brains fucking melted in the sun and now theyre all well its not really here yet theres more cases at home My relatives who live i Florida are taking it 100 more seriously than my mom and dad|1 Just ask a firstworld country thats like a days supply for them|1 Illegal aliens have to pay rent still No work for weeks to possibly over a month mean homelessness for millions of Americans|0 Yes 20 years of experience lots of data taken from JAMA and John HopkinsCheck him out hes really good and produces a video every day Hes my most trusted source|1 We also dont know what this will do with new hosts either Better cautious and careful then regretful and dead Coronavirus are known to be weird and weve seen two far more lethal varieties of the species Why even risk letting a third occur I dont get why folk are acting like this is a complicated concept Christ were it Ebola or Measles its a no brainer but a respitory illness the historically more dangerous form a pandemic can take and everyone shrugs their shoulders Say this thing suddenly develops a new vector of transmission or changes how it attacks the body because weve exposed it to new pressures Its killing people across China we have no idea what triggers the lethal phase beyond weakened immune responses So forgive me if Im taking this all with a healthy dose of consideration of broader impacts|0 If that is their attitude I doubt they will be sticking around|0 Its literally thee definition of fake news if he cant show a hair of proof|0 After reading so many dumb shit people who are supposed to be quarantined are doing Im inclined to look for the best in people and belive the virus has infected their mental functioning Why else would someone who is under quarantine believe the next best thing to do is go on a ski trip or head to Disney landFear Most people are barely capable of handling a medical emergency see just calling 911 Also someone somewhere is profiting off this Its sickening but it always happensMatt also shook hands with the President on the last day of the conferenceAll Im going to say is Im hoping for the best in that particular situationI cant wrap my head around why the health system despite completely vital to our survival as a specie is treated with so much disdainThis is what happens when business leaders and politicians run your country Start electing people whove actually worked a day in their lives and youll see some appreciationI see this at my job currently Neither of my bosses have actually worked a considerible time in the industry they just bought in What work they have done was meaningless they havent brought anything new or of value to the business as a whole It happens to a lot of businesses They currently are worried about maintaining the looks around the placereputation and a 10 drop in productivity for a certain area This is because they dont realize having more managers than working employees is a bad idea They dont realize that absolutely no one is happy nor respects them at all which is why we cant keep a single employee longer than 2 years except for the most menial of jobs which they live off underpaying immigrants and threatening to take their job if they dont get insurance These are the same people whove never attended a single class nor business seminar This is why my job is most likely gone in a month anyway because money was wasted on hiring friends and sucking up to representatives of the industry That money could have stabilized the business through this pandemic who knows maybe even pay us while were out of workHopefully this starts a revolution against the corporate America we know today Hopefully people no longer respect people just because they have a job Hopefully every time a politician gets up on stage the first question will be What have you done for us not Who are you wearing Fight back elect human beings whove experienced life not privilege|0 OMG GOD WE ALL GONNA DIE|0 My husband I deliver newspapers The majority of our customers are seniors We recently starting wearing our masks while we deliver in an effort to protect THEM we also wear gloves already Wed feel awful if we were asymptomatically spreading this virus and brought it to our more vulnerable subscribers I dont understand why this isnt common sense|0 Now the mad rush to get to the USA before Friday ban starts Hope DHS is up for loads of extra entries|0 If everybody were like me more like 2000|1 From the safety of my den I concur|1 Well that will be the end of their companyF em|1 North east Ohio starting to see panic buying Saw a person wearing a mask for the first time in Giant Eagle Like others the hot commodity seems to be toilet paper hand sanitizer and Clorox wipes|1 Stop Youre being rational Wrong thread for that|0 Thst or just let them stay in the schools while closing it down for everyone else They could each take a classroom and isolate The national guard could be stationed there a few to help the kids in need It makes too much sense though|1 People act like the US doesnt have health care Yes its not free but if you need medical care go get it Dont be stupid and die at home because you are worried about the bill If you are dying go to the ER If you have a sprained wrist or a cold do yourself a favor and go to your primary care doctor or urgent care and not the ER Sure it costs money but the cost of an uninsured doctor visit to an urgent care or your doctor is probably less than the amount you last paid your plumber electrician or mechanic to fix your appliance or car Id hope you can get over it enough to value your health over a dishwasher or fridgeEdit expecting tons of downvotes from those who expect free healthcare tell me why you would expect to pay your plumber and not a doctor|0 Reading this I thought this is so well put Im gonna send it to my OH Then looked at the user name and realised you ARE my OH |1 I dont think the UK has the death penalty|0 Yeah one thing that prevented Ebola spreading was how relatively fast it could kill people|0 Well here in WA its not a scam Come visit youll see|1 Pretty much this They were not the only high profile case released from isolation in a QLD hospital today I think they have probably moved on to using those beds for patients who are sick enough with symptoms to need medical monitoringtreatment The number of cases is ramping up quickly|0 Nice|1 Save some of those beds for our doctors and nurses too They are going to need them when we run out of masks|1 Dogtown is going to be SHOOKETH if their parade is cancelled|0 Honestly speaking theyve detected it in fecal matter I dont recommend butt chugging vodka for obvious reasons but that might kill a few virus particles|0 Yes and everyone likes licking Chinas butt through WHO|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 In Italy theyre providing free unlimited cell datajust saying|1 Probably has something to do with their server not parsing the Host header correctly therefore not setting cookies correctly and therefore effectively giving you incognito for the whole site|1 Really glad to hear Hope you have a speedy recovery |1 Will you only be satisfied if our staff is overworked and our supplies are running low in Hong Kong Forgive me but I care about our hospitals taking care Hong Kongers first We should not be waiting until mainland patients have already over strained the system before something is done at the border I understand why people want to come here for treatment In fact some of them are deliberately coming over while sick to get treated I cannot in good conscience blame them for what theyre doing If my kids could die or my family could die Id do anything in my power to help them But forced to choose I have all the sympathy for these sick people in the world but their interests in coming here for good healthcare is diametrically opposed to the interests of those I care most about|0 26 cannot even be close to correct based on the initial infection date of about January 30thmaybe a few days earlier and the number of infected If it were 26 per DAY it might|0 They havent even figured out how it got inside apparently as of two days ago httpswwwlatimescomworldnationstory20200309lananursinghomepositivecoronavirustests That article puts the date at or about Feb 19 but theres an article elsewhere focusing on firefighters as well and their logs showed increasing visits at the beginning of February In January firefighters responded seven times to the Life Care facility In February and the first five days of March they responded 33 times httpswwwkuoworgstoriesthedaysleadinguptotheoutbreakatlifecarecenterinkirkland|1 Why just why do Americans put up with itThe average American is too busy trying to make their individual ends meet to worry about systemic problems collectively pushing everyone downOnce they get health insurance theyre too worried about losing their own plan let alone worry about whether other Americans have health insurance or notThe system pits fellow Americans against each other in a competition to see who can make it to the top|0 That actually sounds like a really decent plan to be honest and I admire your stance Like I said previously I agree with your statement but I was trying to look at it from different perspectives But what you said really hit the nail on the headThere 100 should be action put into place I like the idea of communities coming together and I think that is a very real possibility and in all honesty a tactic that never even crossed my mind Also the idea of asking parents about their circumstances is something that should have already been put into place Thanks for the back and forth and the food for thought Good luck with your induction what a time to be induced ey And I hope the best for you and your family Stay safe|1 1 surgical masks are very effective for SICK people to prevent spreading to others But because there is a shortage sick people cant buy them so if they have to be in public like going to the doctors they are more likely to spread it2n95 masks have to be specially fitted and most people wear them wrong so they are less effective than you would think3 surgical masks are good as preventing things going out of someones mouth but because they arent as tightly fitted they do still allow droplets and air to enter the mouth and nose And eyes are left open4 you are probably more likely to get the virus on you by touching surfaces not through direct droplets So washing your hands and not touching your face is a more effective way to keep yourself healthy5 there is a mask shortage so it makes sense to prioritize them where they are needed medical workers working directly with infected people and less where they are less effective random person in the wild A nurse or doctor getting sick will have a lot more repercussions than if a nonessential person gets sick|0 The advantages of RT LAMP biological products are simple equipment capable of being applied in the field high sensitivity and specificity etc However the development of biological products is quite complicatedThis is according to google translateSorry but from my basic microbiology knowledge a test cant be simple applied in the field and have high sensitivtyspecificity Thatd be the holy trinityIt is either complicated to use or it requires a laboratory or its not as high as they suggest Considering they didnt give a numberits supposed to be based number Im going to assume its the third option It is simple to use capable of field use but it doesnt have high specificitysensitivityhttpswwwhealthnewsrevieworgtoolkittipsforunderstandingstudiesunderstandingmedicaltestssensitivityspecificityandpositivepredictivevaluehttpswwwhealthnewsrevieworgtoolkittipsforunderstandingstudiesunderstandingmedicaltestssensitivityspecificityandpositivepredictivevalueThis might be coming from news agencies lack of understanding what high means in medical termsEditAfter reading up on LAMP methodhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5862059httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5862059 Advantages of this method includes ii LAMP provides accessible costeffective easytoperform method iv LAMP technique is highly specific v LAMP is a simple method However this technique has some limitations Complexity of multiple primers designs for multiplication of new gene regions and selecting the suitable regions in the gene sequence for efficient design of primers complicated product having cauliflowerlike structures with different sizes lack of commercial kits based on LAMP technique and complexity of this method mechanism are some of its drawbacks limiting its popularity among the researchers It seems promising|1 Opposite for us 70 and 66 yo parents who bought supplies a week ago and been selfquarantining for 10 days nagging adult children to social distance|0 Your ignorance is astounding As if all Americans were of the exact same opinions The Americans that like markets do not want the government to intervene because they accept price rationing as desirable The ones that never liked markets are the ones that are demanding intervention|1 Texas is leaving COVID19 policy to individuals and we saw what a great response that was to gay marriage|1 House worth half of what they owe for it you mean|1 So doing some quick math what youre saying is that in 2 months everyone in Chicago will be dead|0 Does it mostly have a beef with men or has it happened in a country that has more men than women The proportion in China is like 53 or 54 men rather than 5050 Would that make a difference|1 Oklahoma had 1 presumptive positive and 1 confirmed but on all national maps it showed 2 positives so I think they are counting presumptive as positives Basing on my local news sources I think our 3rd that was added today was a presumptive as well|1 I dont have much helpful advice here but I must say it really makes me angry that testing is still so limited We had 2 months to prepare for this Everyone who shows the slightest symptoms should be immediately tested no further questions asked|0 The one i read was that epidemiologists in several countries have found through research that all the infected countries only have one or two strains of COVID19 but the US has all of them and that indicates it is the most likely country of origin Ive no idea how reliable that is but itd be absolutely horrifying and hilarious at the same time if it were true|0 Thank you you wont face any consequences for this just dont do it again|1 So wait I have a question This only works if theyre able to stop any new cases from coming into the country and if theyve actually isolated all cases within the country right Otherwise people start going about their normal business and then the virus starts spreading again Am I missing something Or are they really that confident|0 If you think that Chinese infrastructure institutions welfare political culture and healthcare havent inflated and even caused this pandemic then youre certainly novel And if you want to insist that the German response would have been the same then thats fine But the outbreak exists because of the conditions in China You cant separate that from the mortality rate|1 But I wont bother telling you what they are the governor later addedlike FFS|0 The most optimistic figure is its 6 times as lethal Saying its 15 more dangerous is just complete bollocks|0 If you identify as a banana you cant get the flu So that sounds like a good plan|1 My biggest problem with Reddit is how US centric it is in general|0 True we may all|1 I work at a grocery store and the most Ive gotten was a 25 gift card for the store when I came into work during a large snowfall It wasnt much snow but its the south I doubt Ill be getting anything for working during all this|0 Check the article Alex Azar head of HHS oversees the CDC as they CDC is under the department of HHS He did not pull in support from the head of the FDA in the coronavirus task force and instead tried to do his own up until last week See excerpt belowThe FDA oversees drug and lab test development but Commissioner Stephen Hahn also wasnt included on the Azarled task force and has been frequently sidelined during the crisis Hahns most notable public moment was being summoned out of the crowd by Pence on Saturday to answer a question directed to President Donald Trump during a White House news conferencePence also added Hahn to the coronavirus task force after growing upset during a recent meeting that nobody could adequately answer a question about threats to the nations drug supply two people with knowledge of the situation said|0 The handle for the faucet often needs a good disinfecting Its usually touched by unwashed hands after all|1 Well these numbers come from a report that was done using statistical analysis on the China data which included 1015 asymptomatic people through testing This is why it has such a large strain on the healthcare systems|1 Ill check back in two weeks when this isnt an issue|0 Im in Europe right now does this mean Im stuck here for 30 days Plane was scheduled to come back Monday|0 I see Thanks|1 Coronavirus American Health Care System how many deaths|1 You do realize kids are vulnerable to this disease right|0 I have been shaking too My husband said I was shaking so badly yesterday I was moving the whole bed I have therapy this week but Im hoping shes willing to do a virtual session or I have to cancel This is a horrible time for anyone with anxiety Like sheer hell|0 Does isolation affect visa lengthsWould suck if I had a 15 day visa lol|0 I have the post saved New to redditso the only way I know to share it with you is in chat Is that ok|1 I have seen many pneumonia cases on ctXray I am not sure I have ever seen one that looks like that|1 I interned with a guy who is a flavor chemist He does consulting work now and companies send him samples to figure out whats wrong with their alcohol food or anything else He used to work at some big food company and one time had to test whether GMO milk or organic milk had the same nutrients and he said they did That was in 30 years ago I dont doubt companies want to find more addictive chemicals in their foods the consumer should know what in their food but also the consumer cant blame unhealthy food for their health problems Ive noticed my body change amazingly to real foods and not prepackagedprocessed foods They can have a place in a diet but a reliance on them is not good|0 Yeah Losing money sucks Bankruptcy is a bit of a windfall for that though|0 Fellow 28 year old here We definitely live in interesting times So far weve had 911 in our adolescence where we got to watch 3000 people die on live TV a major recession right as we were entering our working years and now a combination of a pandemic and possible second major recession as we are getting established in careers if we are lucky enough to have a career Oh and we are STILL at war in Afghanistan nearly 20 years later Meanwhile the costs of housing education and healthcare have continued to skyrocket far outpacing wage growth Meanwhile climate change is bearing down on us hard COME GET ME CORONAVIRUS|0 No it has not Italy changed its criteria to exclude asymptomatic carriers of the virus|0 Basically some dbag in the USA probably threatened sanctionsnot trading with us Trudeau folded|0 Best reveal on TV|1 Im not giving him credit Im simply arguing the logic of how this would be spun in regards to his campaign|0 American internet generationBecause the majority of Reddits userbase is made out of permanently online young people who consume popculture media 247 as an escapist fantasy for them to get out of their boring and meaningless lives they want any kind of lifechanging incident to happen just like it does all the time in the filmsseriescomics they live inTry to find a single coronavirus post in any subreddit without dumb teens making jokes about Plague Inc the zombie apocalypse World War Z or The Walking Dead its fucking annoying and theyre on this very thread right nowDoesnt matters if its a virus epidemic societal collapse totalitarian dictatorship or nuclear war that happens as long as they are finally affected by this so they can finally become superheroes or just simply die altogether as many of them are also depressed|0 Good|1 Yes Its all about the curve The flu shot will not protect you against Coronavirus but broader community defences against the flu will save precious healthcare resources and specifically ventilator capacity|1 Between the poor air quality in China and the fact that a large percentage of Chinese men smoke theyre probably more susceptible than other demographics may be Time will tell|0 Laughs in Australian FullTimeBenefits|1 Oh man you should have used a vpn I guess they already got you and someone else is handling your account Damn|0 Yeah I am as well I have been following it sincethe reports of pneumonic plague in China back in November I worked on a history project on the bubonic plague waaaay back in high school The disease created quite a stir but fizzled out Didnt expect this one to fester in the background and spread like wildfire Its so surreal|1 Thats true|1 No they dont need to make it free There needs to be an adequate supply of tests for that to even be possible What we do need is random sampling of pneumonia cases so we can know with relative certainty if its already here and spreading|1 One would assume that someone somewhere Fucked up|0 I know people who are going through chemo They need to be extra careful with compromised immune systems and need to wear masksWe need to stand together and shame these people that put all of us in danger that guy who ridiculed you and coughed at you should be arrested at the very least shamed by the general public on the platform Its bordering on assaultYou and your wife are doing the right thing|0 The United States is exporting cases all over the world Cant find the infected when the United States with over 350 million people has only tested 2000 people compared to 200000 by South Korea|1 I guarantee hes sitting in his house right now repeating to himself I am such a fucking idiot|0 They said they were still considering it Im worried this may push them to cancel it|0 We are testing for it just not much Like if youve been in the country than they arent gonna test you They only are testing people that have travelled recently outside of canada|0 1 Flight ban wouldve caused 100200 price increases on everything and wouldve caused panic when a place it costs 45000 a year to live at now costs 90000 a year because the cost of manufaturing triples 2 Swine Flu Ebola Bird Flu Youd be quarentined for 4 years of your life now if that was how it worked|0 Have you tried using simple maths to explain the problem60 of 67 million is 40 million5 of cases need ICU so 2 millionGovt appears to be planning to lock up the old people for 4 months so 16 weeksAverage ICU time for a covid patient is around 2 weeksIf you spread them out perfectly you need 250000 bedsYou currently have about 4400|1 Good analysis OP If the US get out of this pandemic with less than 1 million fatalities it would be a miracle|1 Because this is being managed by a bunch of bumbling morons that havent taken a high school health class in the US|0 At least this time its not us germans trying to steal your baguettes |0 Seems to be our 1 export its depressing I really think were going to be the worst affected western nation|0 Oh jeez youre right I never knew that lol I thought anything O like O or O is super rare I just googled and found out my blood group is the second most rarest AB TIL|1 Such a balanced response Work with your mother to compensate for your siblings Stay safe|1 If you are not a viralogist you should leave expert opinion and conclusions to the experts rather than draw your own conclusions and post it as fact where less informed people will accept it as fact This is how psueodscience works take a couple of facts and draw a logical conclusion without any evidence|1 but that costs money and instead we can give millionaires tax cuts|0 Yes just like Syria when he suddenly pulled all his troops out leaving us and the French vulnerable without telling us|1 If testing had been done earlier then most of the cases might not have ever happened or been less severe with proper knowledge The USA is beyond screwed right now the value of the dollar will sink like a stone taking the world with it|0 I know what youre talking about No that was BS as well Dont trust anything Coronavirus related you find on 4chan|0 Yep I didnt mean the average employee thinks work is the only thing that matters but more than our culture is such that our employers dont give a shit about anything other than output Sick Cool well just fire you and find someone else|1 Good guy Kim|1 I agree Have two little sisters and younger siblings two step brothers This is a blessing for me|1 Mom response to CoronaVirus I suspended my family Lifetime Fitness membership account for 6 months|0 Someone legit picked up their tablet and started playing Plague Inc|1 Its a bit ironic to call that manipulative and yet leave the quarantines have little effect on the progression in the model part outOne paper estimated that a 99 reduction in population movements would only result in a 25 reduction in spread|0 Hes 12 youngest is 8 He is good with cooking basics and starting a fire in the fireplace But he can also be very forgetful and well a 12yr old I think the two of them could work together pretty well But then what if one or both got sickGosh the thought of either or both being in the hospital with us their to support them just kills me Ive been in the hospital with my youngest so I know how important it is for them to have someone |1 I live down in Mountain View which is the suburbs Its dead outside except for grocery stores which have been very very busy for a week Usually rush hour is brutal and 101 by google sucks from 330 to 730 Its full speed all day now I suspect tomorrow it will be dead but i am not about to go out and find out|0 You can still come here from China just by taking more than one flightOh and the misinformation from government and ministers was astonishing Even yesterday they had the arrogance to say it is not a dangerous disease|0 Call a local TV Station and nameshame all the doctors and hospitals on air that have refused her testing It will trend on Twitter shortly and the negative publicity will result in her getting tested|0 Regardless of C19 this is fucked behavior|0 Oh dont worry Im not counting on anything of the sort thats my best case scenario Ive been prepping and collecting some supplies since the start of January I seen this coming a mile away Im just worried about people whove not prepared I hope theres enough food food left for everyone Ill be self isolating until the summer|0 Well I asked and there are about 100 different answers and yours are different than the medical articles posted so it appears no one actually knows Sooo fricken sorry Im a reddit newb and dont know how to search effectively yet But there is a handy skipthiscommentthread arrow I found|1 While not entitled to it it would be nice to have some transparency on their methodology|1 I cannot believe people are up voting support for this theft of a persons property Those are the same people that get their panties in a bunch over civil forfeiture Fucking hypocrites|1 This isnt going to be of much use to anyone except medical professionals that understand the mumbojumbo but good job nonetheless|1 You are killing bacteria though which is extremely important if your immune system is weakened Because the virus is not what kills you its bacteria that moves into your body after the virus has weakened your immune system which kills you through pneumonia|1 Damn coronitas|0 Dang I remember being lambasted two weeks ago by those who said there was no real evidence of mutation|0 This is exactly why Japan and SK are not getting nearly as many cases as they shouldHopefully SK and Japan SHOULDNT be getting numbers crazier than now lol|1 Ive been told this is only capable of infecting the lungs and attaching to lung cells But I appreciate the heads up on thatThank you for the link|1 Ah A decided community like always|1 Curious how many cases are they testingday Ramping up or flatThis is important because everyone is saying the rate of increase stabilized But if detection flatlines it means nothing|1 Yup I have scarring in my lungs from a bad flu I got in my 30s I cant afford to lose anymore lung function|0 Agreed When they say mild case they mean didnt require hospitalization not was the sniffles|1 Jesus I hate that this is happening|0 and help the virus spread|1 And that wasnt the topic I was referring to You are talking about a completely different topic And now Jagmeet Singh just tweeted that he is feeling unwell and is going to limit contact with the public|1 People were convinced poor Chinese people cant handle their shit and EuropeNA will deal with it in an instant once it reaches them Look at them now|1 Indonesia has reported a few cases alreadyWhat about Thailand Laos and Myanmar Their borders are next to each other and is called Golden Triangle Are they not reporting any cases because theres none or they are hiding|0 Unless Italy recently had a potluck dinner for 40000 families a couple hundred thousand people like they did in Wuhan a few days before the lockdown I highly doubt it The mayor of Wuhan or whoever allowed the dinner is guilty of a criminal offense imoBy the time the lockdown occurred epidemiologists were estimating 50100k infections or so had already occurred which seems to have turned out about right I havent heard any credible suggestions its that high in Italy now Are they anyI think you are mixing up two different situations|0 Florida Man does something smart|1 Anyone who watched Trumps press conference and actually believed it probably has that impression|1 Panicking is going to the store with ten thousand other potentially infected people scrambling to get some extra suppliesfixed|0 So true Ive said a few times it would be really interesting to have a live map and statistic tracker for the Flu next year It would likely scare the pants off everyone and surely appear as if the world is ending when the tallies end up with nearing a billion people worldwide contracting itWith that said I realize 100 that this is NOT a strain of influenza and we have no immunity or vaccine yet so this HAS to be taken seriously because were still unsure what were dealing with here What weve yet to distill down to facts are1 Is this actually MORE deadly than the flu From what I am gathering thus farlikely such as when you hear cases of young adults getting taken out in a matter of days2 Is this MORE contagious than the flu Speculation so far would indicate yesbut this is really not clear yet|0 There are several suspected cases but only this has been confirmed so far|0 Thailand is controlling the information flow at this point and will release information based on what they believe wont be harmful to tourism They did this before with SARS and Swine Flu Just today I was reading that instead of making it more difficult for Chinese tourists to enter the country they are considering giving them free visa on arrival in an attempt to bring more of them in Its absolute madness|0 I live in a hurricane Zone I can tell you with 100 certainty that when the food Rush starts grocery stores will be out of food within 24 hours I started buying food weeks ago I have three elderly people living in my house and if the shit does hit the fan in my area they will be staying right where they are Also if youre going to stockpile food make sure you buy a lot of canned fruits Youre going to get real tired of eating chips and other carb loaded Foods real fast|1 Thats right Im also comparing LA to SF and Seattle If Im not mistaken LA and San Diego had more or at least the same number of known seeding events than Seattle and SF excluding the ships and repatriation flightsIts certainly spreading in LA and SoCal but nowhere near what we see in Washington NorCal is also seeing as best I can tell a higher growth rate despite lower population density|1 the its not containable argument is true only because governments are dumb and dont know how contagion works OR there is too much greed for moneyif you reduce contacts you dont need to quarantine the entire fucking globe you just need measures like the japanese and italian ones where they basically shut down schools and every public stuff possible so the contagion gets below the 11 and you can slowly stop the virusbut some italians city are so greedy for money and are refusing to follow the guidelines that the government is suggesting that will ruin it for everyone elsealso the rest of europe is so stupid and dumb and actually having a click baity allarmist media this time basically forced the italian government to tell the truth to their people because the contrast with the media was too big and they couldnt just get away with its just a flu bullshit they had to say look its not just a flu because we have no shit to fight against it no vaccines or whatever but its not the end of the world as media is sayingthe rest o Europeworld legit just care about not losing money AND its pretty easy to accuse everyone else saying it that those are just conspiracy theories and we are all dumb|0 God god godjesus jesus fuck you allmaga|0 Is this elderly lady at fault for not having stock piled loo roll at homeCan people take no responsibility for themselves|0 Jut quaranteen all people over 60 solved|1 Well it is good that Youll believe some figures At first I was very frustrated becouse China changed 4 times the way to report the infected But then I noticed that Hongkong and Singapore have succeeded quite well in containment of the virus So it might be that China has been able to do that with everything Propably there has been alot more cases but If they have achieved R0 to close zero they might pull this through I hope that for everyones sake|1 With all the brain power and computing power in the world why does it take so long to create a vaccine|1 They did test him though lol|1 Im sorry our president in the USA is a fucking orange mother fucker|0 your wife is a hero tears and all|1 According to the whistleblower the aid workers didnt have the proper gear and were testing the evacuees from Wuhan There were a dozen aid workers I wonder how many of them if any got sick httpsnypostcom20200227usworkerssenttoassistcoronavirusevacueesreportedlylackedpropergearhttpsnypostcom20200227usworkerssenttoassistcoronavirusevacueesreportedlylackedpropergear|0 To the people saying that this is inevitable and we dont have a choice1 We still know very little about the virus including longterm health effects and whether herd immunity even works so letting it race through a population seems beyond irresponsible2 The longer we delay the more time we have to develop better drug treatments build health capacity and eventually reach a vaccine3 This ignores WHO advice and undermines the efforts of other countries to control it4 It also ignores the experience of countries like Taiwan and South Korea which have done a good job of controlling the virus through testing and contact tracing5 Herd immunity is a concept that normally applies to vaccines This is a pandemic6 The virus poses some danger to all age groups Half of French patients in critical care are aged under 607 The Italian healthcare system has almost collapsed with around 03 of the population infected Thats about 1200th of what you need for herd immunity|0 I have the right to dont get sick because you are getting bored for quarantine|1 Thank you uthisisbillgates|1 Most likely and hopefully he will be fineThe old mule headed type with the john Wayne mentality usually have the immune system of a cockroachAnd I mean that as a good thing btw Honestly|1 Thank you for your sympathy I like to think Im over it now but here I am fretting over this pandemic lol I stopped worrying about AIDSGRID when I realized there was nothing I could do and I would probably get it anyway Just resigned myself Why you ask Because I think I was very lesbiany or tomboyish even at that young age and when I told my mom I was worried about getting AIDS I think she took it as an opportunity to try to unlesbian me She told me its a disease that girls get by sleeping with other girls Well at the time we had left an abusive situation and I was sleeping every night sharing a blanket with my sister on my grandparents living room carpet I was sleeping with my sister EVERY night I couldnt understand why my mom was having me sleep with my sister knowing it was going to give me AIDS So that night I tried to scootch over as far from my sister as possible and I tried to only use the tiniest sliver of the blanket but after a while I was cold and wanted more of the blanket and I decided that if you get AIDS by sleeping with other girls then I probably already had it so there was no reason to be cold and uncomfortable in the meantime When I mentioned this to my mom a few years ago she laughed like it was funny and said she didnt remember saying anything like that Well I know I didnt imagine it But dont worry I turned out nice and gay despite her efforts and I have a fabulous life|1 The CFR estimates vary by method region and time It has been anywhere from 05 to closer to 10 I believe the final CFR will be somewhere between 25 and 55 percent This is confirmed mortality COVID19 divided by laboratory confirmed cases globally It will be affected by how health systems hold up what kind of treatment can be conjured up before the vaccine what kind of prevention and mitigation efforts countries are willing to take et cetera|0 So you approve of the United States CDC lying to the people that masks dont work Or omission of the full picture Americans some not all are already antivax and antiscience The last thing we need are these experts holding back information for whatever reason Transparency will go a long way towards preventing greater panic If the American government is worried about inadequate masks then the solution is to manufacture more of them to meet the demand This is what China is doing and so is Japan For example this is a Japanese TV manufacturer that converted one of their factories into making maskshttpswwwslashgearcomsharpdedicatestvfactorytomakingfacemasksovercoronavirus03612058If the US government is so worried about a mask or hand sanitizer shortage where are the US factories being modified to make these things|0 I agree with much of what youre saying I am reacting to the irresponsible behavior of the media wrt covid19 and not just the US media Its all based on greed and who can increase their ratings by ramping up the hype and the fear the most As time goes by they try to oneup each other to get more scared people glued to their channel by making 2 deaths in Washington sound like the entire sky is falling and the world is about to come to an end And they run these overhyped stories over and overStock markets are crashing all over the world Its completely irrational and its because of the irresponsible way in which the media is reporting this as if we are in the most dire situation we have ever faced and everyone needs to run for their livesIts true that there will always be a few people who overreact but in the case of covid19 we literally have billions of people overreacting because of the way the media is handling this in order to increase their ratingsAnd do not underestimate the likelihood that there is drug company money and pressure behind a lot of this sensationalism because they stand to make billions of if they can get the public so full of fear that theyre screaming for a solution|0 Im waiting two weeks just to be safe|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Incredible I cant see this happening in the US They will probably be coming to foreclose wearing Hazmat suits here The average tax payer will get no reprieve|0 Idk ask the Brits They are the ones that first called it soccer They confuse me with their flippity floppiness|0 And thats the problem the assumption that common sense is common most people we be sloppy and lazy wont change masks frequently enough possibly due to cost or lack of supply|0 South Korea isnt playing around|0 Im American and I agree with you If we ever were the best nation on earth we certainly havent been in years|1 Here is one woman tried for stealing and selling 9500 masks over video calls httpsmweibocn50442813104479428342403639|0 known fatalities|0 Dont wait until the last minute grab a hospital bed now for the low low price of 899nightNot including taxes extra charges may apply|0 Thank you doing what I can to protect myself not panicking Difficult not to be all toldyouso though|1 There are two viruses attacking populations at the same time The obvious one is Covid19 and the other one is misinformation which probably affects something like 40 of the population in North America and something like 90 of Boomers A good indicator of the second virus informational illness is whether or not a person believes in climate change My parents for example think that climate change is a hoax and apparently they also believe that Covid19 is actually caused by 5g networks My neighbours who are around the same age as my parents think Covid19 is some kind of biological warfare military plot maybe Chinese maybe American younever know The really sad thing is that even when they make the vaccine for this people suffering from informational illness will call the vaccine a hoax too and people will continue to die|0 Wowthank you that quarantina info is cool|1 a lot of people on reddit have some kind of death fantasy against older folks I guess all of them spawned in open air and have no older family members or they are just plain psychopaths wishing wholesale death to old people|0 Woke up feeling less anxiety than I did yesterday Also I stopped myself from stress eating carbs and stuck to my keto diet Small victories so far|0 Oh no I hope you and your husband do not catch it What city if you dont mind me asking|1 One theory is that its out of control due to so many undetected cases in Italy and Wuhan Even 17 of South Korea cases have no epidemiological links which would suggest its more widespread there despite their extensive testing|0 Considering that most of the passengers were 60years and older the nature of the age distribution may lead to underestimation if older individuals tend to experience more symptomsDo we have a demographic breakdown of the age distribution of tested passengers It might be useful to overlay numbers of people tested in each age group with numbers of infected That could help control for the skewed age distribution because then you could see what of people got it with symptoms in each age group If the is markedly lower for younger people it could suggest that a higher proportion dont show symptoms|1 Nice one I didnt buy masks for this reason couldnt imagine sitting next to a mask in my house while medical workers risked their health and families in much higher risk environments|0 Oh my God thats a paddlin|1 Youre definitely not alone Ive been searching and keeping an eye out for it because I have a 16 month old and Im used to thinking of her as part of the super vulnerable group 5 days old they are a little trooper The parents must be so relieved|1 WHO this is definitely not a pandemic just wash your hands and chillalso WHO hey stop calling it a pandemic it isnt respect my autoritaaaaalso also WHO Pandemic|0 Except there have been fewer newer cases yesterday than the day before So not exponential I hope this trend will be confirmed by todays numbers|0 Or Dr Chris Martenson who also give out facts and asses it with a calm and rational manner|1 You cant possibly know that they are all incubating covid19 lol Dont project your anxiety onto her Shes doing the right thing|1 Is the shutdown finally going to happen I feel like were taking our sweet time into dragging this out and not taking action|1 Censorship As Americans stop looking to China as if they are the only controllingtyrant gov In America if we are so free why is everything being censored When it gets bad nothing will be reported you wont even know its down the streetjust the flu though|0 Dont think so either sadly I meant hypothetically if he won and they were going for another term In that case he could swap with his VP or take some other lesser role to retain much of the same voter base and introduce some new policies like UBI|1 Also they are probably using the hazmat versions for more deaths than they ordinarily would due to shortage of testing kits|0 It just indicative of a completely detached viewpoint Hes focused on the wrong things Same thing during the blockades Totally out in left field|0 Quarantines can be fun games until you have to wipe your arse with a stick Then the weapons come out|1 You dont account for the fact that Italy wasnt aggressively testing until recently The first few weeks a country notices a disease arent reliable datasets for spreadJust look at Wuhan The first month or so of cases climbed perfectly linearly which is not natural at all but would reflect the initial burst of testing|1 SuperSpreader is or was official WHO terminology However I do agree that it has a negative connotation and media definitely used it to persecute the guy WHO released a statement saying they dont support the use of that descriptor anymore so I guess they agree|0 Remember this next time a politician says BuT hOw WiLl We PaY fOr It|0 Agreed That said the risks inherent in just in time delivery reducing working capital and inventories and reducing slack capacity in manufacturing were just grossly underestimated I became aware of the threat of this disease because of interruptions in one of my companys suppliers from Wuhan It had the potential to impact drug supply That is a serious threat Trump touted the resiliency of the American economy but tiny stockpiles low interest rates and high deficits have provided little wriggle room aside from massive QE and slashing interest rates to zero to maneuver Now we rely on the goodwill of our trading partners which Trump has already sacrificed at the altar of his own ego Thanks Jack Ma I guess|1 Next stop Dow 14000|0 Yes but are you referring to real life or this sub The two seem to be quite different|1 For those of you guys in or around the St Augustine area how are things out there Are people sick showing concern about the outbreakMy college ministry group as of now is planning on going down there for spring break about 150ish people Would it be advised to travel down or best to stay home|1 Its a lot more nuanced than that but ok|1 This is why workers rights and unions with specialized lawyers are important I cant imagine relying on good will of employers|1 Stop exploiting this platform to push for your political agenda against China just like what OP is doingYou are the one using reddit to mouth foam about our home and our politics all the while safe and free from any of the consequences while we here in HK directly suffer this CCP incompetence|0 I told my inlaws to buy extra toilet paper cat food cat litter and enough foodmisc supplies to self quarantine for 2 weeks should have said month I said youll use the things anyways eventually and you dont want to be without when you know everyone else is panic buying or reselling They did not listenThis morning my husband got a text bemoaning that theyre out of toilet paper and cant find any at any of the stores theyve been to|0 A very fancy F to pay respects|1 people wont give a shit until their day to day is affected andor someone they know dies|1 I mean for anyone who gets sick and loses their home due to being quarantined for two weeks it definitely doesnt And it doesnt work if you cannot afford the test in the first place|0 Exactly Were in the same boat My mom used to work at a nursing home She retired for a year and then realized her retirement wasnt going to be enough so she went back to work Shes making peanuts at a place that is filled with germs It makes me so mad but she wouldnt dare miss work They need to close|0 Exactly Unironically this Everybody just stay the fuck home for 2 weeks|0 Between this and the Japanese man who later tested positive in his home country being on island for 5 days with symptoms its in Hawaii Time to bust out N95s and gloves and leave the house for the last time for a few weeks Im mostly prepped to the teeth but still need to get a few things Should have done it earlier in the week dammit|1 I highly doubt they are even aware that it can enter through that pathway I am 99 certain that we are about 2 months ahead of the general practitioners and the ER wards in terms of the knowledge base From what I have seen the first responders are not even wearing PPE good luck to the USA|1 utah this is like standard behaviour in the entire continent my wife had a blood test and she went with a mask and everyone gave her the look BUT someone probably conplained and she actually got to skip the line thanks to it xD|1 And that was from someone with academic in their username LOL|1 Uh MDs and CDC officials dont either Ask nurses just how often MDs wash their hands Of course CDC officials sit in luxury air conditioned offices and never actually get their hands dirty in the first place but still|0 I dont remember this lol What happened|1 Chloroquine dont work in vivo for reducing SARS viral load so I dont think its a good advice lot of side effectshttpsjournalssagepubcomdoiabs101177095632020601700505|0 Its sad to hear people have no fucking clue why other cultures wear masks and fail to understand the just because something is a cultural norm does not mean those people are experts Are people this fucking dense that they dont remember that this thing started in China and that even a month after containment that China is still the leader in confirmed cases Mask use is part of their culture and it spread like wildfire It only died down when social distancing started being pushed strongly Meanwhile Americans are looking at masks as a way to continue their everyday life of work socializing etc Its gonna be a mess|0 What hospital needs is for medical usage but non medical mask also stop the spreading of droplet|0 Australias been dealt a shit hand this year and its not even February yet|0 Freakin smart|1 Officials were also caught with their pants down not shutting down things fast enough allowing people to go on holiday to dangerous countriesI will make my own judgement how to keep my family safe and fed thanksOfficials wont drive by my house with baby food if we run outMaybe now people will take this more seriously one can hope|1 Are still not releasing daily location and just doing this regional thing I think it will cause more panic rather than less|0 You should listen to the podcast Knowledge Fight They recap Alex Jones episodes He hinted and said multiple times the his silver products can cure Corona Its my favorite podcast Funny but frightening httpsknowledgefightcom|0 Yes but given his longevity and all hes survived on top of this particular virus including potentially the Spanish flu Im pretty sure it couldnt hurt|1 Yeah thats what its called I kept it as a trophy for what I went through Good thing Seems like it might come in handy again in the future|1 For those of you who arent web devs heres a pro tip for getting past a lot of paywalls Use Chrome Hit F12 for Developer tools then F1 for settings Check the Disable Javascript checkbox Reload page TadaInstead of partially loading the article to tease you with many news sites load the entire article and just use CSSJavascript to hide it|0 Dont put your dick in the pussy after the anal Margaret Thatcher|1 Pritzker here in illinois has been doing a really good job so far eatin restaurants and bars are all closed schools closed and he has been publicly talking mad shit about the current administrations response about the suppliesmy manufacturing company has tons of n95s just sitting in closets our VP scheduled a companywide meeting for everyone later today to discuss covid i plan on telling them that we need to donate these masks to hospitals here in chicago reallllly hoping they go for it|0 Biggest fear lockdown by a communist government NK all over again|0 Yeah Im a Chinese shill who also likes porn skiing and mma This comment just shows how retarded you are|1 And they wonder why their health minister is sick|0 If actual lockdowns occur this may be how these businesses keep afloat during this period It may interesting to see the changes to how some things currently are working|1 In fact Thats just an excuse because HE WANTS YOUR HAND SANITISER|1 You eat pigs cows and chicken that require 80 of worldss antibiotics usage which is directly link to antibiotic resistance in humans They literally are given the exact same medicine that we use for simple yet growing in difficulty to treat infections Unless you are vegan STFU|1 Not very good number and it is based on faulty data They are not testing everyone so the only ones that get a test are the ones that are feeling so bad from it that they go to the doctor and get tested If you are one of the ones that doesnt show significant symptoms you arent even tested so you dont show up in the data I really wish some place would do a mass testing of everyone in a large group of people and see how many have the virus and dont even get any symptoms Knowing that number would probably put a lot of people more at ease Instead we have Cuomo using bad data to scare people|0 It might be the fact the government is doing very little to stop it and just hoping it blows off in the summer heat|1 Sounds like natural selection is working as designed then|1 Sure but how much of china has gone back to normal operations And when that happenswill we see another spike|1 curious about the same|1 According to Yonhap News Agency South Korea posted at 527pm local time number of cases in South Korea increased to 2337httpsenynacokrviewAEN20200228002854320sectionsciencemedicine|1 Blame the government all you like it was the populus that gladly let them ship all the manufacturing for widgets like these to the other side of the planet|1 I assume your we is from a USA standpoint and yes what you say seems unfortunately for us and our loved ones quite correct|1 The St Paddys Day parade being canceled is the only positive thing Ive seen to come out of all this|1 Yea but you know some western countries are still trying to mislead their people until this very fking moment China criticism is fair but I think US is worse I still see no hope of virus containment|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 respectfully I believe that Trumps political instincts and lack of humane empathy and the subsequent decisions that he makes based off of those precepts makes this a very relevant point|1 From a medical standpoint there was still quite a way in regards to respiratory support we couldve given him but they are definitely understating the severity The goal of the government is to protect the US hence the travel bans and quarantines and mitigate panic hence the understating I understand why theyre doing it but I really want to know the reality of whats coming|1 Agreed if they were testing more there would be more cases We are under reporting and in all likelihood its actually in the thousands|1 I want the world to burn because to be honest life is fucking boring and I want something to shake it up|1 Oh indeed its nothing I am happy about either|0 Completely unrelated and just curious but what are the logistics on your end when we realize youre obviously a CCP bot|1 Everyone in China gets cremated after death anyways|0 This seems pretty common where I live The reality is most people dont stay plugged into whats going on in the world Not to mention have never experienced anything quite like this So its a combination of the lack of information and denial|1 Does that figure of chinese prison population account for the mass subjugation of the Uighyr Muslums being detained|0 Oh dear|1 I know there is a lot of negativity towards the CCP in the west especially on reddit But there are some things they do really well having a centralized authoritarian regime For example the quick response to quarantine entire cities Making it so that people literally cannot go outside their own homes Imagine the out roar if this happened here in the US But its good for fighting the spread of disease|0 Information sharing and document management are both important parts off making this project succeed Any experts available|1 Sending hugs Very close in age to my parents And my mom has cancer so I havent been seeing her much I have three little kids who are constantly coming up with a new cold and giving it to me|1 Are those studies about asymptomatic spreading confirmed yet We should be more cautious until thats ruled out IMHO Im from the Netherlands too I cant believe they didnt decide to close the schools today Although children are less effected they are still carriers this is just mind boggling to me to say the least|0 First good news Wow|1 Another conspiracy loserThe doctors where under high stress with 16 or more hour shifts everyday while being surrounded by Corona patients everyday You absolutely cant compare that to normal younger people who just lie on their bed or sofa and waiting for it to be over You cant get healthy with so much stress and exposure to the virus I fucking HATE that fear mongering sub so muchGood news fake Everyone will die tomorrow no exceptions even babies 100 truth no questions asked |0 Its been nice knowing you all|1 They wont count the dead either Millions could die and our government will say a few hundred died Have you been living in this country for the past four years or not The grand reckoning is not coming This is what people meant two years ago when they said we are now living in a posttruth society No accountability will come|0 Start a steam account and Ill give you some bundle junk for free|1 ThEsE aRe PeOpLeThank You For This Deep Truth|1 Yeah|1 Science disagree They are not useless but I agree they could worsen the situation if not handled safely httpswwwcambridgeorgcorejournalsdisastermedicineandpublichealthpreparednessarticletestingtheefficacyofhomemademaskswouldtheyprotectinaninfluenzapandemic0921A05A69A9419C862FA2F35F819D55httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799|0 Didnt they vote for Biden as well|1 Nationalize anything that needs a bailout Honestly this is a capitalism right Businesses that cant manage to avoid bankruptcy without help from the government maybe dont deserve to operateI mean we have to sacrifice right When people are having money problems theyre told they may have to give up luxuries like their 6 year old iPhone It goes both ways right|1 5 if not more Am i your employer or tipping you for doing a kind service|1 Funny that the two articles surfaced at nearly the same time Shopping malls in general just need to shut down you dont see those stores anywhere else anyway|1 That sounds true I have been to Bosnia and Morocco and there was always like 4G internet availableMy friend who has been to USA said as soon you leave a town the internet would return to crap Even in the desert with no obstaclesMeanwhile I enjoyed some Netflix in the desert as my friend tried to jump off a cliff with his paragliderIm so astounded how backwards USA is in many things|1 Relax The comment youre responding to is nothing more than American bravado Americans will obey without fuss|1 Yeah he seems very bodily exhausted whereas normally he seems fine just uh lazy Also his eyes look more red|0 Studies have shown that contrary to western movies that show that as soon as something dramatic or scary happens or even a shit hits the fan situation people actually band together and are very cooperative This only changes if the despair and stress or the extreme situation lasts longer than like 3 ish months Lets hope all this wraps up and people can go back to their normal life Good luck out there|1 Unless theres a govt move to ensure they are provided a basic allowance while in quarantine or if sick they cant|0 I dont get the wipes Get a bidet cleans better and doesnt clog pipes|1 Um where was she called diseased I just saw some black dude run up and start beating someone with a hood and face mask with a bottle and some woman swearing about it|0 wait didnt the lord create this virus Doesnt everything happen for a reason|0 Honestly not sure My assumption is its like a state of emergency in the US in some way It releases emergency funding and allows greater freedom of action in respondingIll be looking into it after work to learn more|1 So is the price of insulin going down Didnt think so I guess its just capitalism when the companies do it during an emergency but when people are out there hustling its price gouging So the price of insulin coming down Dint think so I guess its just capitalize for the companies in an emergency not for people out there hustlingx200BThanks to qwizzstar|0 it means every day the number of cases multiplied by approx 1932376191932As a fellow scientist I do my job of calculating approximate numbers Day0 3 cases3 580 1120 2163 4180 8075 15601 30142 58234 112509|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 The CDC is understaffed already and Trump wants to cut their budget again|0 Theyre comparing it with the mortality rates of the regular flu If only they would The popular comparison is the total number of UK deaths from flu which peaked at 13000 in the 20089 year EDIT I had 20082019What isnt then understood is the millions of people who get flu each year The 13000 is such a tiny fractional percentage of the total infectionsCOVID19 is killing 100 If mortality rate was properly understood then there might be a different responseThis is where I read the 13000 figurehttpsvkovgoxacukvkinfluenzaflu|0 Im a millenial and at the beginning before the evidence of how serious it was I talked about how many people the flue killed etc Then when it hit outside of china and it was serious I started preparing and taking it seriously I still see people at work who dont I went to buy groceries last Saturday with a mask on and disinfectant and it was more crowded then ever Old people and people with young children not giving a fuck|0 That happens when your lying|0 Just a flu bro|0 While it is happening lower your head If I am standing I just bend or squat down If you need to sit or get your head between your kneesDoctor gave me this tip and I dont fear hitting my head on the way down anymore It works for me|1 are you still referring to aids as the gay related immune defficiency GRIDS or the Congo virusI never referred to AIDs that way Asking a childish Whendidyoustopbeatingyourwife question is off the point scientists gave it a nameYepI prefer to use Wuhan Virus Its accurate The virus came from Wuhan spending energy trying to make chinese people look bad is the last thing we should be wasting our energy onI agree but whos doing that By the way Wuhan Virus is much easer to type than SARSCoV2 It takes me less energy stay safe wash your handsThanks You too|1 No the prime minister said those having danish citizenship so the OP was correct even if the prime minister might have meant to include those with residence permit|0 uxaxiob Good ask That could be an informative graphic|1 This is all sensationalist The translated article also says people were selling fake masks We dont know if those people are the only real target of this as opposed to people selling real products for high prices|0 I live here in Taiwan Every public space has handheld thermometers that they hold against your forehead to take your temperature and people who have fevers are sent back home Id say everyone who attended school had their temperature taken teachers included Lots of parents kept their kids home if there was even a chance they were sick because they didnt want to take the chance Back when SARS was the big thing Taiwan was the worst hit country outside of China so this time everyone is being extra cautious|0 No youre starting at China is terrible and working backwards Even if they are lying even if half of China has coronavirus the fact that theyve prevented a panic is insane Do you believe they are shutting down hospitals as the number of patients rises since youre an expert|0 Does anyone know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin Because that is also something good to debate|1 At one time the US had something called The Fairness Doctrine It basically said if I remember correctly that each side of every story and every solid political candidate got equal air time News wasnt something you made money on but was a loss leader to keep people watching a network for the rest of the eveningNot everything one saw on TV or read in the newspapers was reliably true information but it was a lot better than it is now Many people older than I 50s dont understand that things have changedIve noticed that my own parents 80s and 90s are ridiculously easy to manipulate and I attribute this to a combination of naivete and cognitive decline The worst thing about cognitive decline is that its almost impossible to recognize that you have itLastly if nothing else changes your perspective on old people it should be this if you are lucky to live long enough another generation will be complaining about you for much the same stuff|1 Part of the confusion has to do with the fact that testing is happening at several different levels by the CDC by state and local public health labs and at hospitals and other facilities and that the words used to describe the testing arent always consistentA test kit means an entire box of supplies to run tests to diagnose many people A CDC test kit for example is able to test 700 to 800 specimens Other test kits come with enough reagents for 500 reactions Because controls need to be run fewer than 500 samples can be tested with such a kit And in both cases the actual number of people who could be diagnosed with each will be lower since patients may have multiple samples or samples may be run in duplicate The same issue applies to the word testFDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn provided the clearest answer about testing capacity on March 7 when he said that the CDC had shipped enough kits to state and local public health labs to test 75000 people for COVID19 In addition more than 11 million tests manufactured by Integrated DNA Technologies had been shipped as of March 6 for nonpublic health labs to use with another 400000 possibly shipping by March 9 A separate manufacturer had also produced 640000 tests that could have shipped as early as March 9 once quality control testing was completeThe actual number of tests that have shipped is larger than the number of patients that can be tested Hahn explained noting that the approximately 21 million tests from IDT and another company would allow roughly 850000 Americans to be testedOn top of those tests he added would be any testing by commercial or academic labs plus an expected additional 4 million tests from IDT and the other company by the end of this week The CDC itself also can test approximately 350 specimens per dayIn a March 9 telebriefing the CDCs Nancy Messonnier clarified that the 75000 people that can be tested using the CDCs test kit in public health labs is a cumulative figure She also said that in the coming weeks as more manufacturers join the effort the majority of testing will be from the commercial sectorSeveral commercial companies have stepped forward to increase production Quest Diagnostics said it could begin testing on March 9 and LabCorp said its test was available for ordering on March 5 with results taking three to four days once a specimen is received in the mail|1 For the CCP to fall unfortunately and it pains me to say that people will suffer Either economically or physically If everyone is complacent then nothing will ever change The peculiar politicoeconomical system in China where capitalism and restricted civil liberties exist together was never going to last indefinitely It is just too contradictory and people would at some point rebel against it|0 I am a green card holderI can not get government help otherwise i wont be able to get my citizenship with the new laws Trump passed|0 lol|1 Trump isnt even ordering restaurants closed He is being quite reckless|0 Ive spotted she has been in close contact with at least 2 people from this videohttpsparliamentlivetveventindex43a773a52ca3405a82470a7703534961 at 145840 Charles Walker and Lucy AllanI suppose we should expect those two at least to selfisolate However from httpshansardparliamentukCommons20200310debatesC9D591A41B684D6B8AD35BBC90398051PalestinianSchoolCurriculumRadicalisationhttpshansardparliamentukCommons20200310debatesC9D591A41B684D6B8AD35BBC90398051PalestinianSchoolCurriculumRadicalisation Charles Walker was speaking from 1557 Lets create an open contact tracing list of those who have been in close proximity with those so we can check if they appear in public or in parliament|1 Yes although I believe every four days is the current assumption That would mean 7500 people have had it for 20 days Youd expect 225 deaths at a 3 mortality rate And another 225 deaths in the next four days|1 Yup Even if it cant be truly contained we need to slow it down|0 To clarify that quote is from a public health expert at Imperial College not the government That doesnt discount the figures of course What is also concerning is the man not contacted by the govt yet they were claiming to be tracking everyone but it seems like everyone went home over the weekend instead|1 You are absolutely cheerleading our local government lecturing others to relax while incorrectly comparing our efforts to Vietnam and Hong Kong I have simply listed the facts that we know to dateYou are misusing select cherrypicked facts with misleading falsehoods to fit your everything is fine narrative You keep repeating the phrase stating the facts to justify your complete faith Newsflash we arent readyWe have seen large gathering being cancelled in Canada as wellWe have several large gatherings of thousands daily across the country for hockey alone|1 Dont worry you cant catch ncov after being mauled to death|0 To be fair the flu isnt a just either it is also serious business but Id agree this is worse|0 Snake oil salesman trying again to make a buck of the sheep He should be jailed again|0 Giant Chinatown Big Little Italy despite name and first case is from Iran Makes you winder how many cases from China Italy and others were missed because lack of testing|0 P100 is rated for protection against potential Hantavirus exposure while cleaning ratmouse droppings so should be good|1 If youre still on FB I have no sympathy for you|1 thats when its time to just kill urself with a bullet if your body gave up theres no point|0 Ok so take 371M 2060 Then 17 of those go to ICUThen 2545 of ICU patients will dieWhat did you get|1 I hope youre right but I doubt it China is not above mass killing their citizens if they get out of line and they are currently hard wired into a world economy and armed with nuclear devices so that no nation will intervene if they do The USA isnt interested in pretending to be a warrior of justice anymore and Russia are their strategic ally This is the best time to be a dictatorship|1 yeah we do even though todays figure was lower we are still in exponential growth here is a great video here to explain it to you httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKas0tIxDvrg|1 I sure did This needs a crosspost to that Kids are stupid sub|0 They confirmed community spread in the last several hours Man from Sudbury has tested positive no travel history confirmed community transmission He was in Toronto last week at a conference of 25000 people including Trudeau and Ford Its here|1 Aye Russia for example they will lie till the end Its just a flu|0 Youre not copying my whole message It was meant to show that most industries will NOT be required to show contracting COVID19 as an OSHA recordable because their jobs dont put them in direct risk A hospital puts their employees at direct risk of contracting the virus so that could be a recordable Most industries do not fall under this|0 San Antonio seems to be like everywhere else half of the people taking it seriously and half ignoring or downplaying Last night I drove home from my moms in Fredericksburg which btw was still jampacked with tourists over the weekend and found little traffic on the road but totally full parking lots at restaurants Most people seem unwilling to accept how much farther they have to take this that a halfassed approach really wont help Its still the attitude of treating it like the flu ie dont go out if you have underlying health issues wash your hands more frequently but other than that just live your lives Except when it comes to the grocery store where theyre all maniacs My daughter works at HEB and is sick but is definitely getting mixed messages She feels its still kind of Well if youre too sick to come in we understand Its up to you approach My husband is a teacher and his district is scrambling to figure out what to do as they wait for guidance of some kind from the state|0 Come on man that hurt my feelings|0 People generally dont seem to care about stuff unless it affects them directly|0 You really like to assume dont you I never said the US bought it to China I am asking you to stop spreading misinformation and you are here spreading some more misinformation Its pointless trying to talk to you|0 When describing the entire system you conveniently left out the fact that the ship was denied docking in 5 counties|0 Highly illegal No studio professional porn production as expectedTons of leaked cellphone type videos of amateurs online at various places So many people everyone owning a smartphoneJAV is more popular than Western and is shared all across the Chinese interwebs as torrents|0 Solidarity Forever The Union makes us strong|1 Agree with the assessment|1 Just remember the GOP senate could have got him out of the office but they stuck behind their corrupt grifter|0 Doesnt say but some excellent data here about death predictors Underlying health issue isnt as predictive as age but older means 45 not necessarily elderly httpslinkspringercomarticle101007s0013402005991x|0 My friend has total disregard of what I have to say on the coronavirus she says stop worrying you think too much even when I tell her how my father has cancer and he is at high risk Nope wont hear about it|0 Lol I have had enough of the chicken little|1 Im pretty sure its just incompetence If the goal was keeping pretense announcing a national emergency and cancelling all european flights wouldnt really be a good plan|0 Huh I wouldnt have guessed North Korea would bother with shills on Reddit How interesting|1 The shop owners however are probably the happiest people of all right now|1 Twisting and lying about what Trump says is typical for these people|0 May I ask a question about your OCD If you dont feel comfortable answering here I understand However when I think of OCD I think of having to close a door some many times but can you be obsessive about a topic aka this virus and just cant stop reading about it I ask because this is where I find myself and wondering if my GAD is turning slightly toward OCD tendenciesETA thank you for all the responses|1 Iran does a significant amount of business with China and I think theyre keeping silent to help Xi Jinping save face|1 Wait until it hits the US southugh that is terrifying|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 I was reading another post about how NOW society will appreciate the idea of working from home which has been scoffed at by some My first thought though was not everyone gets to be so privileged I immediately thought about Agricultural workers who grow pick and package produce and food What happens when they get sick and cant do their work or worse die I hadnt thought about truck drivers who are critical in moving around so many things in the world Also commercial shippers and freight train folk Garbage pick up people Folks who fix utility lines when they go down Folks who handle the deadThose who are privileged can work from home and thats great especially now However this crisis will make us think differently about everyone who works and how some who most of us take for granted as always being there doing hard work are vitally vitally important to our quality of life if not our very existence|1 Breathe Anxiety is natural It sounds like you are doing the right thing and going over and above with measures for all involved She wants to be with her family Im going to call my Mum|1 Neighbor coordinates a major medical centers emergency response So far its just people scared or overreacting according to her|0 I know right Weve been dealing with our own corrupt idiotic nation long enough as it is|0 Rudy Gobert is a contemptuous asshole who thought he was being super clever making light of a serious situation by touching microphones and tape recorders If hes been in contact with others those people should be tested to determine if they are at risk of spreading the disease further|1 Two of my professors have told their whole class its nothing more than the flu well forget about it by this time next year One of them was my 400 level college Virology professor|0 Listen whats the point of a massive shut down of the border with the US1 We need the flow of goods going both ways to be uninterrupted Sure we can make very clear exceptions but that will take a few days to fully understand all the implications on our economies They are sointerconnect I think its hard for the human mind to even comprehend easily2 They have been very clear on isolation procedures If you are coming from ANYWHERE including the US you are expected to selfisolate for 14 days If some dumb ass american tourist wants sit in a hotel room pay for it for 14 days and order room service so be it I am sure the hotel workers who I am work is precarious will appreciate the income I also think Hotels should let people know theres going to be no room cleaning during the 14 day period another disincentive for people to not show I get people are dumb but the numbers will be limitDo I think we will eventually move to a complete border shut with the exception of trade Probably but I think it takes more than a weekend to figure this thing out considering the integration of the economies Sure we dont want new cases from the US but I think its key that food and medicine etc keeps flowing unimpeded so people dont panic|0 I wonder why is this even a news it seems pretty straight forward|1 Its not as if Italy hasnt been the cause of every single 1st case in an area for the past 2 weeks for some 1520 countries and many more cities And they say closing borders doesnt stop diseases spreading but when it comes to Italy I cant see how it wouldnt have helped if nobody had left the country Weve had a case confirmed at work this week from Italy of course so now were closed until further notice with everyone working from homeI was anyway but thats beside the point|1 Yes|1 I too hope my country does too as soon as possible|1 Im worried abut the virus itself and the aftereffects like societal breakdown Given the way the wrlds going it seems like this is the apocalypse|1 Hey he said trust him that works for me|1 I mean the horrible unemployment and stocks shitting the bed isnt really putting a lot of extra money in peoples pockets to buy teslas these days|0 I agree its gonna be an utter shitshow soon Im surprised how the gov and QLD health kept saying there are no risk for patrons of the restaurant a covid19 patient had gone to or selfisolation with family members By the time anyone had symptoms its already too late Other Asian countries are taking this very seriously we can never be too careful I dont know why we are still so chill about this|0 Yeah and Americans are extremely unhealthy overall in many parts of the country I would not be suprised to see 7 here|0 I dont understand why we cant just have restrictions Obviously completely closing it would affect both countries badly but our countries leaders are like doing a terrible job at leading right nowThe answer is pretty simple Allow the borders to remain open for trading purposes so no one is starving and both countries are still getting the resources that they both need then closing it to everyone else Perhaps there could be exemptions for emergency situations But allowing everyone to cross freely is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard Thats just enabling the spread of the virus Wtf|0 Herd immunityHerd immunity also called herd effect community immunity population immunity or social immunity is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a large percentage of a population has become immune to an infection thereby providing a measure of protection for individuals who are not immune In a population in which a large number of individuals are immune chains of infection are likely to be disrupted which stops or slows the spread of disease The greater the proportion of individuals in a community who are immune the smaller the probability that those who are not immune will come into contact with an infectious individualIndividual immunity can be gained by recovering from an infection or through vaccination Some individuals cannot become immune due to medical reasons and in this group herd immunity is an important method of protection PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 I think social media is one of my ways of coping But youre right obsessing over something isnt healthy|0 On Kakao their version of google maps they show which shops and pharmacies have surgical masks and how many are remaining Most shops give out limited quantities organized by birthdate so that everyone has equal access the few masks available to the public|0 Thank you Sounds like a good addition|1 httpswwwbmjcomcontent368bmjm810rr16What I have see is this reply about it that I shared with a doctor who made it seem like it would not be bad Im leaning towards asking for a switch of medication|1 I went to the Rediclinic last night to test for flu and it was negative I seem to be getting worse but am also on steroids for an autoimmune thing dont know when I should start freaking out Lol bad time to have just a cold|0 Well thatll help those who are twenty nowsucks for the rest|1 No there hasnt most are from that Cruise shipwhats your idea of a surge 10 more cases out of 120 million people|0 Thats just completely disregarding the health of everyone else Evil|0 The current overall death rate is 34 We aint china Or are we Yup Sure Were gonna start welding people into apartment buildings like they did in China are we Quarantining entire cities with military enforcement Building entire hospitals in a weekSure No problem Were fine I feel great Yay|1 Really Surprising since the parades in Ireland have been shut down Although I wouldnt be surprised if they still have the parades in Australia too|1 I obsessed over it for nearly 2 months and eventually had a panic attack so baddy it ended me up in the ERThe panic attack happened when a couple 60 members of my family were isolated I live super close to SeattleAt this point I just feel beaten down and tired There isnt anything we can do to stop the US floodTrickle of the sick into hospitals followed by a stream followed by a flood The flood is where the deaths start Thats happened in China Iran Italy and JapanWere at the trickle stage here and people still arent taking it seriouslyIm actually having a self care party on Sunday Just me my husband and 2 friends who have also been effected Were likely already infected so were just gonna play games and relax best we canThe good news is I also know how this wave ends Eventually the deaths stagger ERs open back up and life goes on But its gonna suck until then and the economy is still very vulnerable When the wave passes well wake up in a different worldEyes are on India now honestly China is on its last legs and the US is painfully out of date and aging|0 You stated definitively that a mask does NOT protect you from catching it You presented your own position as though it were backed by rock solid evidence|0 Finally you guys get it China number 1 USA bad ORNAGE man bad Tiananmen Square never actually happened either more USA lies Come to China we are the most peaceful transparent government on the planet You will be safe here forever|0 Im pretty sure locusts are literally ravaging India rn too|1 I am calm I asked a question Im eager for the answer Maybe I should say Im actually not calm I feel terrorized Im proplexed Every TV channel ever website I turn into does not say a word about educating American public to wear mask and informing us about when masks are becoming available Youre right that Im not calm atm If youre calm I think youre not seeing the depth of the tragedy that is about to unfold soon|1 Ive said only somewhat jokingly that rCoronavirus may be worse that Corona Virus itself in terms of health effect on the average reader Stress and fear kill|0 Great never thought thankyou x can you use washing up liquid that is antibacterial|1 Youir not wrong|1 It literally makes no difference if its 1 or 4Wherever theres at least 1 confirmed case we should already be assuming there are multiple other unidentified cases|0 This half baked quarantine is going to hurt the market more than help it They dont even know where to begin to quarantine due to the lack of tests|0 What confuses me is how they have come to such a different conclusion from many other countries given that they all have access to the same research and scientific thoughtBecause its a political response As you can see from this subreddit if the government isnt seen to be doing something people get hysterical and start accusing them of incompetence at best and social cleansinggenocide at worst So in other countries to seem decisive and inspire confidence they are shutting down everything even if the science doesnt support it|1 Already too late youll probably get infected if you go out there now|0 In this crisis use your guy instinct it will serve you much better than any authority figure and especially the government which loves you|1 Yeah I went through that stage loaded up on masks goggles etc and I put my elderly relatives on lockdown last month Now I am at the bringit mode|1 Ah I see thanks|1 You guys struggle with the same as us here in Norway WHO director call it lean and mean healthcare Echonomically pressured always living on the edge due to low budgets Its crazy Goes for most of western europe|0 Ps Foreigners are treating us like st you need to realize that the virus is already circulating around the world we are just being honest with the tests and numbers As an American whose government is literally just not testing people I couldnt agree more It has to be circulating here too Godspeed Italian friend|1 We have no idea where these places are so lets just plonk them in the middle of Scotland|0 Where I live there are no known cases yet But lets say my county closes schools Its a 54 minute drive from my house to the other county high school Yet from my house I can drive to the next county that might not close because no cases in under two minutes So if I am sick who needs to close When schools close those hours have to be made up If we were able to go online think of all the school personnel that works with children every day that would not have a job Reading coaches librarians lunch room coaches speech therapists OT therapists PT therapists secretaries Closing needs to be determined on the local level based on local needs There is no need for a school in Alabama to close because a school in New York has 3 cases or vise versa There is also the issue of feeding children Working parents depend on that breakfast and lunch meal Especially those on free or reduced lunches Close schools and those children dont get fed Since they tend to be from single parent homes where the parent works they are now also home alone My kids would have needed supervision to log on and do classwork from home What if the home doesnt have internet Is mom now supposed to work fulltime and home school at night In a district where only one 55 year old is sick In a state with no known cases Yes there are districts that will need to make this decision at some point due to illness flu closed many schools this year But not all schools at the same time And when they do have to make that choice administrators will have to make it with their most vulnerable children in mind Those whom a loss of services may outweigh the risk of getting sickAs always a parent can make the choice to keep their child at home at any time If you feel your child is at risk and your school is open call your local school or school board and express your concerns But closing the entire world is not feasible nor does it make sense If you are sick stay home Wash your hands to stay well and avoid places where lots of people congregate Avoid mass transit if you can if you cant take precautions to be close to actively sick people And trust school administrators to take sickness seriously If you have a child in the school system work with them if they do need to close or stay openIf everyone who is concerned sent a can of Lysol or Clorox wipes to their local school they could all stay healthier from all forms of sickness|0 On the plus side it says wasnt associated with cruises and the port of Baltimore Which is slightly reassuring because I live a matter of blocks away from the port|1 Shall l post again the reports on Supply Chain Resilience and Pharmaceutical Resilience l worked on for the UK US NATO and Swedish Governments referenced in the paper attached to the AMA which are my basis for thinking there are reasons not to panic There are plans in place They are pretty much publicly available If you choose to believe something else thats your choice but lm not illinformed|1 Here is another article that specifies the patient is in the Vancouver Coastal Health Region httpswwwrichmondnewscomnewscoronavirusbcssecondcasehasfamilyvisitingfromwuhanchina124068515There are many VCH buildings it is not a monolith Search here if youd like to see them allsearchable by districts in the Vancouver Coastal Health Region httpwwwvchcalocationsservices|1 Ive got one of my coworkers with a similar ideology Prepped and ready to go for Armageddon Until yesterday this was a main stream media conspiracy Today weve upgraded to Too many people are talking about this It just means more people are going to get it Dude lives with his grandparents and supplements his income with their social security|1 there are very few mild cases not being picked upIf thats true then SARS2 R0 is vastly overestimated|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Maybe all removed comments should be placed in a central site for viewing along with an explanation as to why they violated the rules At least then wed see if the moderation was being reasonable|0 Twas a joke you walked right into it and I couldnt help it lol|0 Yes kids are not affected much but they spread diseases like dry brush spreads wildfire The whole point of controls is to slow down the progression of the epidemic through the population The schools should be the first thing to close with the provision that parents need to be given the flexibility to stay home or work odd hours and not lose pay or their jobs Oh and also that kids be provided with food to eat for those who rely on the schools for that|1 I think its more of the fact that Singaporeans are quite a kiasi afraid of death bunch so theyre long to follow what the authorities say to stay safe Its also the reason why the incumbent party keeps getting voted in despite people complaining about them because theyre afraid of any disruption alternative parties might cause|1 Sure s|1 Oh I dont mind it I just hate that you cant change your title Its the worst Ive had to delete and repost many times because I made a typo lol|0 Yes clearly thats the most logical solution to our current situation why dont you go ahead and start and we will all follow your lead|1 Personally I feel that flattening the curve by isolation or quuarrantine is 1 priority The medical system should be top priority The loss of life is going to be even more extreme with the people who just cant get medical attention when the shtf Not to mention the regular medical conditions that normally occur including trauma cardiac arrests and the like If we slow this thing down you could theoretically control the flow of patients needing hospitalization or at least take some pressure off the system We can save a lot more peoples lives that way instead of leaving people to die like some doctors are being forced to do because they are helpless This is a war and hospitals are the battlefield Lock down isnt going to cure or fix anything it just merely buys time and allows the medical infrastructure breathing room How much Who knows That depends on how quickly you quarrantine though for sure When quarrantine first starts people are still going to become ill that are isolated who already were infected and didnt know it so the numbers will still rise but after time the community spread slows The influx of patients will start to slow and hospitals can start catching up and also send recovered home for continued isolation See China and Korea When the spread is under better control and you start relaxing quarrantines youre still going to get new infections regardless The impact on the healthcare though isnt as bad and more people will get treated In theory even while the virus is still out there at this point herd immunity starts reducing infection rates as wellIm not an expert and Im talking out my ass so theres my disclaimer Personally I feel you shouldnt try and achieve herd immunity without slowing down community spread at the same time But dont mind me Im just a guy whos had his eyes on China since this began and they seem to be doing right things same with Korea The numbers dont lie Ive said it before When you see a Country whos got previous viral outbreak experience spraying the streets down flying drones and basically crop dusting City blocks with disinfectant I think you should probably pay attentionWe arent We havent been And now well all be just like Italy I dunno about you Brits but we Americans never seem to learn at least our government doesnt Were in voluntary isolation ourselves now personally The wife and myself arent taking chances Our lives and the lives of our families are far more important than money property or a jobThose all can be replaced it This is a war and we all are on the front linesGodspeed to all STAY SAFE|0 A year Thats not how it works The second wave will be hitting in a year They barely hope expect to have a working vaccine in a yearGoing the herd route is the very definition of just letting nature run its course It didnt have to be this way|1 Ok but what new cases They are supposedly reporting single digits Its not credible|1 Theyve done this before In general Canadian Tire is well known for their price markups and on sale discounts being the same price or slightly higher than other retailersThere was an instance a month or so back when they falsely advertised surgical masks as n95shttpstorontosuncomnewslocalnewscashininoncornaviruscanadiantireapologizesforsellingcheapsurgicalmaskslabelledasn95certifiedmasks They had them priced at like 20 for a package of 10 masks Considering you could get 40 surgical masks for 4 before this whole coronavirus shortage thats a massive markupYou can also find old entries on redflagdeals about other branches of CT disassembling multi packs of n95 masks to sell individuallyhttpsforumsredflagdealscomcanadiantiren95masksinstockymmv2351906 piled haphazardly in a bin with tongs This exposes the masks to contamination Id post links to the examples above but Im on the phone Sanitation is an issue My dad picked up a box of those condors brand masks They were labelled nonrefundable without any indication the type of mask inside I guess dad was thinking that for the price 40 they should be decent masks given it was a major retailer He also thought that the no refund would only apply if the box was opened Sadly when he got home we realized that there was no inner seal at all No plastic bag to protect the masks from contamination only the thin cardboard box that leaves the content to be easily exposed Anyone could have opened these boxes and coughed on the masks or handled them They were also surgical masks Lol what a rip offI went back to Canadian Tire this past weekend and the customer service told me verbatim that they were aware the masks are sold in unprotected packaging and confirmed that was the reason they will not refundWhat disgusting scammers Price gouging unsanitary merchandise I hope karma bites them hard in the long run Edited for clarity and added links for examples used in reference|1 Thats cool Do they have to test you daily or only after a certain amount of days How does it work|1 Its going to infect that many people before a vaccine is developed anyway You can only lockdown entire cities for so long before people get cabin fever and start ignoring the quarantine and spreading it again|0 Lmao what about the person delivering your groceries What if they decide to quarantine|1 I really wouldnt recommend eating fast food or trusting the employees with your food especially where you are located If a worker was infected and they dont take proper sanitary measures like washing their hands after the bathroom preparing your food without gloves or other acts of carelessness then it could be transmitted into your food and youll end up with the virus|0 That is absolutely untrue Due to mandatory military service most soldiers are not that educated with only 23 months of military training A lot of them far away from their hometowns|1 Same thing is happening in IL There is a public messaging campaign Here were my takeaways from my briefing This is nothing to be alarmed about Every day we hear about flu deaths and we dont worry about the flu so we shouldnt worry or panic about the spread of this virus It is imperative to practice good hygiene hand washing cover your cough appropriately If you are sick stay home Do not go to workschool|1 It seems that if we assume a virtual certainty of infection of everyone in the next 23 months and our health system running out of resources then the best survival strategy for a person at risk is to get it asap and selfquarantine If it is mild you have immunityif not you still have a chance to get treated Before the hospital system is overwhelmed and you are going to be denied care It is using your washerdrier at night when electricity is more readily available strategy|1 never underestimate the power the 4chan autism httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvvw9zyxm860Q|1 Yep Touching infected surfaces with your hands only matters if you then touch your mouthnoseeyes so the ol knuckle touch works pretty well for buttons and the likeDoor handles on the other hand|1 Oh my god thanks for telling me I am kind of glad that the video did not load now|1 Suck it bitches Ten year old pasta for dinner tonight|0 Any links to virus not going awayI think we will have multiple strains some more lethal and some weaker as it mutates easily|0 Well when Senator Cotton was debriefing an admirable and a general among others he seemed to be pretty well informed In that patient zero had never went to the food market in Wuhan where the spread allegedly came from Also he said we need a Manhattan project level of research and scientific effort to combat this new bio threat|1 They are still not allowing people to be tested unless you are sick enough to have to be admitted to the hospital There are many stories from my friends who have had this happen Theyre following the party line Dont Test Dont Tell|1 httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustersDo you have kids Now they will spread this disease for sure|1 Trump was given the wrong information and the reporting agency admitted that|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I would normally say let the ignorants deal with their fate except their ignorance will impact others which is frustrating|0 I may be repeating myself but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters as if nothing was going to happen here The media in Europe are reassuring politicians are reassuring while theres little to be reassured of Theres little to be reassured of We all know that its a near certainty that it will get to that point in the coming daysweeks|1 This is a good thing|1 Fake as hell What kids would pay for hand sanitiser Drugs booze and smokes yes|0 Here is an interview with a British couple quarantined on that the Diamond Princesscruise quarantine life httpsyoutubetsJ8Eajz84s They have a nice room and described how those with interior rooms had no windows etc No thank you|1 I almost feel like temporarily laid off is worse Especially with 7 years time served Makes it harder to move on I hope it all works out for you and all of us Stay safe my friend|1 There is no probably with MGM Its a guarantee|0 Good After all it doesnt really fuckin matter does it People released after being quarantined die people are quarantined without being tested positive WHOOOP DEEE DOOOOO or whatever Undying admiration Here You Go Also i realized after the fact that I replied to the Wrong Fucking Article Whoooooop dee doo Can we all pretend I didnt|0 Im in no way an expert just someone who has been following this closely from late January and have noted how its played out in other locations I would say well wait too long then err on the side of caution I think schools in the Bay Area where I live though Im not there at the moment will close by the end of next week School closings will be all over the country within two weeks and probably shut down everywhere within three|1 I know Im hoping employers will realize this given the special circumstances of this event but I have a feeling Ill be disappointed Unfortunately I think education is the key here and most people in typical midwage management roles arent interested in paying attention to whats going on Id like to think that after this is over we would look at the lessons learned and realize that people getting sick time because NOBODY goes through life without getting sick should just be a given but Im sure thats not going to happen|0 And Im saying there was an interview with hospital staff who stated that at extreme the delay was up to 12 days in large part due to logistical challenges of the CNY holidays I will really try to find this article Again this was in reference to an extreme upperbound At no point did I say you should use this in a model or encourage anyone to use it in a forecast|1 masking the truth haha did you intend the pun|1 What about the current crisis worries you the most What gives you the most hope|0 So one of the shithole countries Trump was referring to is doing something better than the US Trump should take a clue from them|1 I do not know how reflective that is of the general environment how long does it take for a sneeze cough to settle Also wondering about that And would they settle or are they likely to attach or land on bystandersbypassers If Im reading that right the smaller particles would be fairly easily influenced by air currents and therefore somewhat mobile And then if it lands on a plastic handbag or umbrella it could theoretically remain viable for a day right|1 This article at least is about a vaccine and not a cure so I doubt testing on latestage critical corona virus patients would work|0 Right if youre not willing to do the research yourself IM not going to do it for you This is pretty common knowledge here I dont care if you believe me or not if you care look it up|0 I dont see what the big deal is anyway Most people watch it on TV anyway Theres no reason why it couldnt be virtual I heard there is going to be some sort of VR integration and that could be incredible if theres a VR 3d seat or view you could have Its not worth it to travel just to sit in a stadium|0 Not exactly but he knows Im panicking abt it|0 Typical Saturday at Costco best to avoid|1 Serious question couldnt Amazon take care of getting all kits out there without people congregating around test centers or test distribution locations Im still able to get random shit I dont need delivered TOMORROW if I place the order in the next 4hrs 32mins so why arent we using that resourceAs for testing the kits why not redistribute some facilities to handle millions of kits Hell Amazon could even take the return shipping and distribute to test centers with a logisticallysound approach|0 Networth of 16 millionBorn in the 40sCriticizing Millenialsadds upx200BCan I see some fucking proof that young people arent taking this seriously Im like 99 sure we are the ones who ARE taking it seriously When this thing explodes and it will I dont want these pieces of shit to put the blood on our hands Millennials are the ones working your god damn hospitals now How about you tell the Florida retirement community to get off the god damn beaches|0 Non critical care patients will begin to become critical and overflow into those critical care beds|1 The aggressive strain has harsher symptoms is easier to detect and the victim doesnt feel well enough to travelThe weak strain is the Im not canceling my plans strain Lets go to ItalyOver time humans put more pressure on the aggressive type because we isolate it|0 If it confirms my bias it is truth|1 Since we cannot be responsible for your health asking for or providing medical advice violates the rules of rCoronavirusIf you need general information please refer to the CDCs website httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutIf you need more specific medical advice please contact a qualified medical professional in your area|0 Calm down|1 The people support the government not the other way around This is the tail wagging the dog You absolutely should be relying on family friends and community before the government|1 I would agree with you in full if this was some kind of food source that provided even an iota of nourishment This is a free soda It would be a huge stretch to come up with a reason to stand in a big ass line for a free soda under normal conditions but there is zero reason when a global pandemic is in effect|1 Its hard to say how much that is from the choices theyve made or the behavioral patterns of the culture or the geographical features of the regionIts easy to compare some of these numbers but they dont truly take into account even the major variables that I just mentionedtheres also just kind of like the luck of the draw in how many people with the infection just happened to go to your country and happened to expose themselves to a lot of people You could have had a lot of people go to a country and theyre just all cleaner than average and didnt actually expose many people or you can have one dirty bird In fact dozens who all go in separate directions and infect dozens more Or they could just like go hang out at their relatives house and not do much at allthe travel patterns of the initial infected people have to be extremely important to how easy it is to get that initial outbreak under control especially when you dont really know its coming|1 The marathon is a yearly thing but what about places like Disneyland where theres always tens of thousands in attendance daily|1 I can confirm Its a trial for a month It works on VPN Just tested it I havent wankJust browse how the premium looks like The 4K is awesome though with some videos Enjoy|1 Better Although deaths are going up What is the critical number EDIT 324 discharges is good|1 Humans think they are inherently special as a species and immune from stuff they cant readily see in their lives Most people dont even think that they themselves are animals like every other mammal on earth Dangerous way to live Most of them are going to continue being the same way all the way till they get infected It is sad but it is realityYou do you and take care of yourself and family as much as possible That is what matters|1 Since several people who dont have symptoms they dont feel sick are testing positive for covid if we dont test more it is impossible to know whether a person could infect others They could infect at risk populations such as elderly people and immunocompromised people who could have much more severe symptoms and complications from catching covid possibly death Once people start spreading the illness without knowing we are looking at an exponential increase in the number of cases here Thats why its important to test and isolate peopleEDIT typo|0 Yep a looming pandemic will do that to peopleIt might not be so much of a meme anymore when thousands of working class Americans are dying from being denied adequate COVID treatment while the ultrawealthy immediately get everything they needThe working class will be forced to accept this dire reality very soon and its imperative that they know that there is something that can be done but it can only be achieved with total working class solidarity|1 Singapore is Singapore We have our own sets of laws when it comes to such issues Who gives a fuck about what US will do|0 It seems if you want people to survive you need to do some authoritarian measures|1 Taiwan is not autocratic Israel is not autocratic Hong Kong is not autocratic PRC government have not gotten involved in this disease policy in Hong KongAre you not willing to change your life temporarily if it means saving half a million lives of elderly minimum or perhaps more like two to three million|1 Thanks|1 Its hard to get infectious enthusiasm if you are not part of a crowd|1 His out to lunch he went to the theater last week and encouraged others do the same|1 I know you did not just pull a just the flu bro on me|0 A lot of Americans are in for a surprise when we hit 50000 cases in a few weeks|1 I was at CVS looking at 50 types of lozenges didnt find Zinc ones Does Zinc as a vitamin supplement work I take that Also what is Quercitin and Curcumin|1 It depends if youre low on them or not but its pretty common I mean what do people eat that contains zinc generallysame with vitamin D depends where you live your skin colour and your lifestyleBut getting more zinc and D is not gonna cause much of a problem Assuming you take copper along with the zinc|0 No idea to be honest why it wasnt allowed Hope this one stays|0 Im from the US and not that Im blaming people but everyone I know isnt taking this seriously AT ALL They say that theyll worry about it when its serious The problem is though that people are only getting tested if they were A In connect with someone who had it B caughing really really bad Now dont get me wrong Im sure there are places that are doing tests for those who ask but here in the Midwest specifically Iowa people I know arent getting tested when they ask to We live in a small town and everybody has the mentality that they are untouchable because of it Im worried that because nobody is taking it serious it will spread more serverly than in Italy There are last I checked 18 cases and still even with cases not far from us nobody is taking it seriously Students joke that its not them thats gonna get it its only adults that its just like the flu that you just need to wash your hands It Is NOT Like that I guess the purpose of writing in the Europe part of this section was to here some of your stories of whats going on there What you may say to the people I know I do hope you dont mind but I will show any responses to this comment to other people so that they WILL take this more seriously Thank you and I really do hope that you guys get better I send you guys all lots of love stay safe |1 Hopefully a wakeup call and mass exodus from all the shitter companies that care way more about keeping their teams infecting each other than paying them to stay home and stay healthy Corporate better wake up when peoples lives are threatened they dont give a fuck about your bottom line or agenda keep them safe or get bent|1 Yeah I love it but my girlfriend is Not a big fan But there is a lot of good Chinese food|1 I am a fan of Trump generally but honestly Pence is a capable and smart guy Hes the only one in the administration who pays more than lip service to NASA for example|1 Tbh if it would be bad there and many cases identified it might be good if it gets other countries to do the same lol|1 Jesus thats apocalyptic|0 Concord NH Bulk hand soap and hand sanitizer is gone from Walmart but basically everyone is going about life like nothing is happening Lots of TP and Lysol spray still around Stores are well stocked|1 The truth is China is the best choice to be treated around the world|1 He was reading off a teleprompter in full sentences Thats mindbending for him|1 He also wants to put people at ease because the stock market has been tanking these past couple of weeks|1 Theres no evidence that permanent immunity can be developed by fighting it off|0 Pneumonia is any lung infection It can be as mild as a cough or as severe as a medical emergency that kills you|0 Im in the US and theres a Newport near me so Id agree its not that original|1 What I said wasWhen capital is free the risk for bad ideas is non existentI did not say there are no bad ideas I said that without risk you cannot tell the difference between good or bad ideas in a free market systemRisk is what keeps it all in checkThe market doesnt care about what you or I for that matter consider good or bad ideas|0 Most of us are so much the recipient of a Human greed which is limitless It is astonishing The monetary commodity the materialism fake happiness at the expense of the Humans I use to work for millionaires and billionaires Not all were as such but I would say 7 out of ten The stories I could tell Decency is rare|0 Most people I know here are ignoring it They have also not updated the testing since 5th March I will be ringing my MLA today to demand answers|0 Its still illegal just a misdemeanor instead of a felony|0 I too am crazy But after last nights news not so much But without mention of course|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Thats what they said years ago when they had olympics and never enforced it Theres always going to be black market shit|0 We need to demand a quarantineOf what Toronto |0 If this shit happened in the west heads would fking roll lmao Comfort that locals taking virus more serious than govt|1 3233 new cases today 3590 yesterday According to BNONews A lot of new cases But first sign that growth of new cases is slowing and lockdown is having effecthttpsimgurcomWxuIsRc|1 LA just had a marathon this weekend Thousands of people breathing hard close to each other I expect a few infections spread through that|0 evidence for your statement please|1 I honestly doubt a large minority of Americans even see it as your holiday Not disagreeing though|1 There is a difference between a singular Vancouver Coastal Health building and the region in general You are mistaking what the article says It is referring to the region not a specific building There are several locations of VCH buildings throughout the Vancouver Coastal Health RegionhttpwwwvchcalocationsservicesThe article never mentioned any specific building and the inference that it did so is simply incorrect or misinformed|0 Youre young and the disease will likely never affect you seriously even if you do catch it 80 of cases are mild or asymptomatic Especially with young peopleThat said its not so inevitable that youd catch it Good hygiene and reasonable isolation do seriously improve your chances or never contracting it I cant give you much advice without knowing what your job is etc thoughAll in all look disease is always with us If its not the CoronaVirus itll be something among countless other conditions But none of them are actually game over You do some research you get the right treatment you recover and you keep moving Thats life The COVID19 is by far not the scariest thing thats come to us Again especially for young people You should do the smart thing and reduce chance of infection but you shouldnt be terrified of it Its all around the news because its new But were learning more and couple of months from now I wouldnt be surprised if we shrug it off like everything else Maybe few more measures to keep hygiene and reduce contamination Which honestly would be good for society as a whole It will mean less cold and flu in general and all kinds of other microbes that can harm us|1 Agreed Not just Canada either The whole world is now realizing just how interconnected we really are|1 I tried this thinking the same thingProblem is the wire is glued around the filter so its difficult to separate it without shredding the filterI ended up sewing triple layers of cotton muslin and attaching it to a cotton cover with a pocket for non woven material like an antibacterial handwipe thats fully drySomething is better than nothing for sure|1 Stonewell man never looked back at Orchard Thieves since|0 What about US president He isnt any better|0 Holy crap I was already being paranoid about packages Im leaving that shit outside after spraying it with disinfectant Its unconscionable what theyre doing to their workers|0 Sounds like were already in the uncontrollable situation and older people are blowing this off as something thats either just the flu or will fade away like any other health scare|0 Me and my homies have been running a team on RosettaHome and have been pointing 100 of our compute power at itDoing whatever we can to helpFeel free to join the funTeam is Cephalopoda and is free to join for anyone Jump in and have fun with usThe team name is a variant off of Cephalopod named after a group of animals in the ocean of exceptional intelligence and coolness|1 Those numbers dont fit his bill of world ending disease|0 Li was 34 and he didnt die quickly The pattern of his illness looks more like a secondary infection killed him but Im not a doctor From the case studies we have getting really sick pulling out of it then slipping back into severe illness then dying is not standard COVID19|0 Were people seriously thinking China was overhyping the disease If you take China with a grain of salt then you should have been even more freaked out than the legitimately freaked out shit China was saying|0 Biden is just now acting cogfoggy whereas 45 has been aggressively foggy for over 3 years|0 Exponential growth is a real bitch|0 But thats the thing I cant see how this plan mitigates that We all know people will die|0 But why should we worry now in Europe if everyone who had it only showed mild symptoms and already recovered and no deaths|0 I also likely havehad it My girlfriend was exposed to an Italian flight attendant from Tampa via her job NOBODY around us that weve talked to cares even people at her job And everyone weve called just tells us something different and has us jump through hoops Theyre laughing at us when we try to tell them about our symptoms and that we want to get tested I am self isolating|1 That already happen in Wuhan terminal cancer patients HIV patients etc|0 We are talking critical patients in the thousands|0 Oh yes I hear and read this SO OFTEN Im frenchSo many french people think that nothing that bad can happen to us other are watching the situation evolving helplesslyOnly a few schools are closes rassemblements of more than 1000 people are unotorized We are 20 000 just in my university A lot of schools dont even have soap for the students to wash their hands|1 Diabetic ketoacidosisDiabetic ketoacidosis DKA is a potentially lifethreatening complication of diabetes mellitus Signs and symptoms may include vomiting abdominal pain deep gasping breathing increased urination weakness confusion and occasionally loss of consciousness A persons breath may develop a specific fruity smell Onset of symptoms is usually rapid PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19aboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Didnt they cancel it|1 Its not an idea its a fact over there at the moment The doctors keep talking about it And its not even an age limit young people with preexisting conditions like diabeties and cancer are also in that mix Its about how many years you may feasibly have left|0 thank you seems most people are responding like its about a new strain|1 Does this affect most drugs used to treat high blood pressure I am currently taking guanfacine ER for ADHD which is also used to treat high blood pressure in some people The drug information lists it as an alpha2Aadrenergic receptor agonists but doesnt go into how it impacts your blood pressure specifically because its prescribed for ADHD I cant tell if it would have any effect on ACE II because I dont know much about it Should I call my doctor or am I okay because it isnt an ACE inhibitor or an ARB|1 The most beautiful check in the history of checks|1 Thats the thing about greed by definition it knows no bounds|0 Im not hating on your actions Im criticising capitalism and the deeply capitalist values of greed that have allowed this outbreak to spread|1 Im in pretty much the same boat As long as schools are closed I have no income Scheduled to start on March 30th but that seems optimistic|1 We could if we tried hard enough|0 Law firm here too Criminal cases that arent on the confined docket have all been continued until June possibly later depending in the virusIf Im not in the office I dont get paid meanwhile all the attorneys are self quarantining Currently sitting at my desk and hanging out with my reddit peeps nice not having anyone here|0 Can say the exact same about all these people on reddit literally stirring the pot as much as possible to freak people out Majority of people on reddit dont know shit so i wouldnt trust what anyone is saying without a good source|0 I have said this to a couple people but dont want to look like a huge conspiracy theorist Theres no cure no vaccine and proven cases of people being reinfected after getting better Were all going to keep reinfecting each other|0 I believe he was sarcastic|0 So glad I live in a country that take this seriously and quickly enough Just in time before the Canton trade fair that attracts tens of thousands worldwide|1 WHO is not doing it jobs in trying to think about people health they should be testing anyone with symptons they should be questioning China numbers and claims They should be investigating into Ethiopia|0 Not exactly Italys cases are much older than South Koreas but of course South Korea still deserves much praise for acting fast about the only epidemic country that did so|1 People wearing masks in the west signals that we have diverged from the status quo and the idea of that scares people Coronavirus could be a black swan event also might turn out not to be at all but youre disrupting their idea of a safe worldDont let them stop you though You do you|1 Whats even more alarming is the lady near Davis is already INTUBATED |0 Government officials and rich are above the law|1 This is absolutely crazy like asking for it crazy That kid is just going to give it to every other kid and then to their respective parents that are magnitudes more susceptible schools are possibly the best way for this to get worse|1 Yeah it sucks to know that if we just had some kind of plan for this and acted early wed be ok It feels like the apocalypse now not trying to fear monger Im really scared|1 most people that i know just dont care some are afraid for themselves but still acting very irresponsibly|0 When I watched the movie Quarantine I was so pissed off because spoilers the firefighters tried to get everyone in the building together into one room forcibly removing them from their separate apartments when they knew there was a pathogen in the building I thought it was so stupid and unrealistic More fool me I guess|0 Seconding this question Theres a lot of FUD info out there and it would be very useful to clearly establish whether we can be reinfected or not|1 67 million x 60 for herd immunity x 2 Case Fatality Ratio 800k people|0 I dont think the Trump presidency wants RNA sequencing out in the open The Federal government has literally no power to prevent this happening|0 WHO is reporting 34 about 30 times higher than the flu but its hard to calculate until lots of cases are identified and allowed to resolve The real issue is hospitalization rate Reports are saying about 20 of cases require ongoing medical care which means our emergency healthcare system will be entirely overwhelmed once this ramps up At that point the death rate begins to climb because of a lack of access and supplies If 20 cant survive without treatment then 20 of the people who cant get treatment die|0 My biggest fears at the momentI dont doubt that the case fatality rate as of the current situation can be as low as 1 or even lower such as 05 That is bad but not civilization ending However with large numbers of the infected needing serious care and the implication that no nation in the world will have enough healthcare to deal with this number of cases once the disease is widely spread wont the fatality rate increase considerably Is this being accounted for in the experts estimatesAre deaths from other medical situations potentially not cared for due to an overwhelmed healthcare system and for people not getting access to medication estimatedThe WHO have said hoping for the Summer to calm down the situation is a false hope Why since it seems to be common knowledge that coronaviruses spread less in the heat Is this because a a catastrophe will already have occured before then b because the Southern Hemisphere will continue to be ravaged c because it could bounce back again in next winter or d because they dont believe the heat will make any noticeable difference I live in an island which is part of one of the poorer countries within the EU What are the odds that the supply chains will break severely enough for there to be a food shortage Im keeping enough food to be okay for 2 3 4 weeks of quarantine but a sustained food shortage would be an entirely different situation Are we being misdirected not to prepare for this to avoid supermarkets immediately running out of food as everyone rushes for them at onceHow credible is the anecdotal evidence that you can be reinfected by this disease given the medical studies out there assuming a strong degree of immunity for 1 to 3 yearsWhy do estimations of the ultimate total number of infected differ wildly from 10 of the population to 70 If as the WHO reports the younger rarely even get infected ie no iceberg theory surely this would point to a lower estimate of the total population infected So how come the WHO themselves point to a 30 to 70 range|0 OK I made a sort of calculatorThis is a graph of Qt the probability that youll come in contact with someone who has the virus as a function of t httpswwwdesmoscomcalculatornfcs8ewx7yThe only difference between the formula here and the one in the OP is that I multiplied the whole thing by 100 in order to make it a percentageYou can set your own values of the other parameters by adjusting the slidersIf youre curious about P just set n1 Then QP|1 This virus has so many layers and evolves and changes so quickly From the few things I have read by experts it will be next to impossible to develop a true vaccine to stop it Any more than we can create a vaccine to cure AIDs|1 That was one awfully generous typo|1 Yeah Brexit saw this coming On the 31st January UK will quarantine itself|1 We can contain it its just no politicians has the guts to do the drastic measures required|0 Fuck|0 We got an email at a major Massachusetts hospital saying we have no confirmed cases yet and also please stop stealing medical supplies I have a sinking feeling the wrong one of those will stop|0 Honestly we need it though in Washington we cant get anything on prime and half the stores are closed or sold out|1 The CDC may be under executive branch which President is the head of executive branch but you do know the state health departments are not controlled by the Federal government right University of Washington literally started creating their own tests early on when CDC wasnt able to provide them They developed the ability to do 1000 tests every day on their own California did the same thing New York is looking to do the same thing Illinois has already started doing that alreadyBesides that I dont know what to tell you Youre right about CDC site not being up to date But you can check the state health departments for the number of you want|1 Apple also sent care packages for its Chinese employees trapped in Wuhan the packages contain N95 Masks hand sanitizers snacks and an brand new iPad to entertain themselvesThey didnt disclose that to general public but the pictures were shared on Weibo by very appreciative recipient|1 Explains why the US is basically putting things on lockdown now Were about 11 days behind Italy iirc but 6 times their size in population However not nearly as much testing so maybe not as far behind as we think Quarantine now is going to see an effect in about a week So still several more days to escalate The US has been cutting this very very close A couple days either way and they could be in just as bad situation The next 12 weeks will be critical|0 Way to go America America has no sick days No affordable healthcare Insurance companies just want to gouge And people cant afford to even take days off to NOT infect others|0 They gave Congress a briefing before going public partly as a courtesy and partly to keep politicians on message by stamping a lot of bad news as classified|0 Some of my coworkers are basically just saying its the flu Nothing will change their mind of course|0 Its tough For the open discourse required for good scientific inquiry sometimes hoax and almost always controversy have to be allowed and accepted Once a truth is known and the time for discourse is over it is then time to be heavy handed and control the message some people say this anyway because so many people cannot or will not think for themselves I wont blame mods because i watched users BEG for tighter moderation back in January but since that time i have learned more NEW things about the virus on freer forums such as a quarantined sub im not allowed to name and of course 4chan and a few others Is there more bullshit to sort through yes this virus is NOVEL and definitely NOT settled science We absolutely should be listening to and debating even apparently bizarre theories If you dont feel qualified to do that by all means stay here where the mods will expertly curate the acceptable truth for you If you want to get to the frontier where this place was for a few weeks back in January youll need to move on|1 wearing a mask for 3 months of the year is better than being sick for a month or seeing your elder parents die because they caught the flu|0 What This is some modern day Prometheus shitDoesnt help that you dont really fully recover with the permanent organ and tissue damage |0 singapore isnt lying and theres not really any appreciable difference|1 There will be no olympics calling it now|0 Can you tell your boss you want to rest for the week because you got a cold and not tell the doctor|1 I think its good to speak to your manager on the telephone or via Skype to explain why Sounds like you have good medical reasons for wanting wfh make it clear that its to the managers or companys benefit Many on wfm are more productive you save time from travelling|1 I agree|1 A lazy government|0 Its not great thats for sure Very expensive lots of terrible frozen bread|0 Im starting tomorrow actually But the train was very empty this morning so I think were already better protected thanks to the fact that schools are closed Not many people in the office either|1 Where are you seeing that Isnt it closed to all nonCanadians Its just so Canadians from those places can land any whereEdit Got it Residents and US Citizens are good to go everywhere Stupid|0 What an incredible thing to see International docs trying to save one of their own over twitter Amazing|1 Its probably not the best thing to focus on during a pandemic Right now we need global cooperation We need all the information to be flowing as quickly and as freely as possible Human safety and lives are priority number 1|1 Sorry but Ignorance of common knowledge is hard to ignore Its illegal to protest in China|0 Do you have any clue how stupid that statement was or|0 I will be messaging you in 2 days on 20200309 022744 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003092002274420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUScommentsfee767predictionsfortheusformarch6andthefjnpj61context39 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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people like this guy on why covid19 is spreading in the states in the first place Asshole|1 Some scientists in Spain are trying drug cocktails Chloroquine lopinavirritonavir Maybe they can add RNA polymerase inhibitors too|0 Its China so not really The CCP will just continue to claim that nothings going on in Wuhan because accepting foreign aid makes them look weak and shines a light on their lies|0 Watch carefully for the phrase Weve seen no evidence that because it means they arent looking|0 Canada here and same We get allergy ads but definitely nothing like when I visit the states|1 Have you seen asian nations Chinas got over 110 million old people alone surely theres been more deaths than that|1 Your comment history is full or conspiracy shit please stop and get help not even joking call a therapist Spreading conspiracies will definitely get people killed|0 NYC parksgardens are really nice Highly recommend the Brooklyn Botanical Gardenhttpswwwbbgorgbloom Prospect Park and Marine Park in Brooklyn Perfect for roaming around smelling the flowers and seeing cute doggos|1 Again this crowd is four people from the look of it It speaks volumes that much of the UK is socially distancing themselves despite that not being the official advice The herd immunity approach is unpopular and it is a political decision the government has made I dont know what else to tell you I think youre just angry These peoples concerns arent unreasonable and neither is their behaviour|0 IF he was constantly sneezing in his hand or on the luggage|1 There is currently a shortage of chloroquine in France because the local Chinese immigrants bought the whole stock to ship it to China|0 Most people arent Stephen Hawking Most elderly will be very expensive burden on a state that has drastically changing age demographics|0 People in tourism must be freaking out right nowYepI dont know what to expect It was a fun ride|1 Recent claims that a coronavirus in pangolins was a 99 genetic match to the virus circulating in people were the result of an embarrassing miscommunicationx200BLink to tweethttpstwittercomNatureNewsstatus1233144792844029953s20|0 Isnt the Russian roulette usually played with a sixshooter|1 Excellent|1 I watched Trumps press conference Saturday it had people I believe from the CDC saying to wash hands cough into elbow advice like that He was talking and actually deferring to experts on certain questions|1 Noone is against saving businesses that are vital What people are pushing back on is saving them without them paying a cost when the majority of the airlines looking at your American specifically spent their excess capital and insane profits of the last decade on propping up their stock and not building cash reserves|1 Am sorry mate Wish I could help you guys in any way|1 Its a great game Really scratches that Harvest Moon itch|1 People in Germany are laughing at you if you start wearing masks Its like they think you are mentally ill|1 Well fuck US then|0 Maybe a shared parking area for Health PavilionhttpsmapsappgooglQWpaoDu7ZqAVXm4T9|1 I feel bad for him Hes not going to get his multimillion dollar bonus to spend on hookers and cocaine in Thailand for awhile now poor guy|0 He didnt deny it Thats as much as you can hope for at this stage It was very brave of him As a man that doesnt believe in science and that has to answer to the orange megalomaniac it took strength of character to not deny the number millions|1 Please note Fox News is banned from broadcasting in the UK|0 Get the fuck out of here with your logic|0 I think you are referring to the deaths by disease Yes the old continent had already suffered several major plagues which caused major losses of population 30 to 80 in some cases Its very interesting to read about and to see the genetic mutations that resultedUnfortunately the new continent for many reasons had not suffered the plagues over the centuries like the old continent They suffered huge casualties and large amounts of population losses Im very grateful for the advances we have made in medicine I am very grateful for the regulations that are put in place for people groups that would be harmed by meeting modern people|0 Korea is on top of this way better than I could have imagined Good stuff|1 Please take this test everyone Lets expose the officials who put wealth over health|1 Bars closed in Quebec Our prime minister is actually decent like wuuuuut|1 Economic consequences for the lower and middle class are gonna be disastrous Pensions gone Bankruptcy homeless etc Lots of reasons to suicide If they dont stop rent and mortgage payments soon there will be need for heavy monthly subsidies|0 Why risk infection to visit a game storeThis is whats blowing my mind recently Just the question why I work in a fairly small pet store and weve been fairly busy Admittedly some people are stocking up on dry pet food to be able to go home and not leave and thats great Im happy were still open to help them with that But even just yesterday the amount of people just out wandering out looking at stuff or coming in just to see the animals is killing me Stay home people why are you just out acting like nothing is going onFortunately we get few enough people its not hard to keep track of whos in the store and what theyre around to try to keep up on disinfecting things Officially according to our corporate offices things like doors are to be disinfected three times a day were down to being open 6 hours so about every 2 hours but weve been disinfecting doorhandles carts credit card machines keyboards scanners and counters everytime theyre touched Im hoping it will be enough but Im increasingly uncomfortable going in and working around peopleBut I also have a coworker whos currently on spring break in Florida filling her snap story with videos of parties shes at and is due back Saturday Our store manager refuses to take her off the schedule despite many of us protesting it so well see how that goes|1 My mistake there you go I keep hearing everyone say Doug Ford scrapped all the sick leave I should have known better and looked into it myself lol|0 Doctors never make mistakesSeriously though some simple statistics would clear this up Correction does not equal causation|1 You cant just assume like that We gotta wait till more info is out Or a vaccine|0 Wait Im confused Youre talking like this is some kinda permanent changes Its not At least I hope not This a temporary fix to contain a pandemic So what The kids lose few weeks or months of oncampus schoolingbig deal Their health is more important and that fact that schools and institutions are willing to accommodate should beIS a positive Also Im sorry maybe I misunderstood but the tone of your response almost seems like you think we as a society and our lawmakers and institutions have some other options to deal with this crisis What do you propose You think all the kids should be attending school so they wont miss out and people should be out and about dining out to support businesses I think Im little confused on what you think is the better alternatives here|1 Up next WHO redefines pandemic is confident COVID19 can still be contained to Earth|1 Voting for conservativesAnother butthurt far left cunt|0 I havent told anyone about my stock I got rid of social media so hopefully everyone will forget about me anyway lol Anyway two cases in my area now unrelated to one another One came from Washington another one came from Italy guy 1 went to church which was then used as a polling location then went to a very popular restaurant Yay|1 What do you want them to doTest all 66 million of us daily to see if were OK or not We have a testing capacity of 2000 tests a day which will be increased to 4000 by the end of the week You would really prefer the worried well to be tested rather than people in ICU or with pneumonia|1 But they cant vote if theyre DEAD|0 But why Ive heard excuses from bosses but Im ill as well We all come in like this Fuck that if I feel bad and i cant undo something inevitable stay home get well and get the doctors note|0 300000 is generous There are only about 990000 in the US and most hospitals run at 85 capacity We only have about a 1015000 icu beds open at a time|1 Fed has pumped 15 tril to save billionaire investors Meanwhile pls pay your scam student loans for college lmfao|1 Funny you say that We are literally getting swamped by sick Indonesians who want the healthcare since their own govt is denying covid|0 Even those with millions wont be able to find a ventilator in 5 weeks We will be overwhelmed|1 Maybe the FDA can do something counterintuitive and allow soap companies to label soap as antibacterial and antiviral because it contains soap regardless of pharmaceutical content that is deleterious to public health|1 Yo wtf Get that from them in writing and run screaming to the media If that were to actually happen then criminal prosecution and civil liability for whoever made that call should be on the table|0 Confused idk if there is a key that tells me what each line means|0 This is very well put Hes destroyed so much|0 I live in Socal and today was the day we stopped all kids activities We also home school so my son is just missing out on the 1 day of school he goes to campus for classes Daughter also taken out of preschool We normally do a lot of kids extra curricular classes so its gonna be a changeThe thing that tipped it for me was the Seattle news Pretty much undiscovered community transmission is the thing Im pretty convinced is happening now Id rather be in some place like the MidWest now but we decided to hunker down here until things become clear|1 We could pile up the bodies of our dead I suppose you could call it a wall|0 Boris Johnson doesnt care about people he only cares about protecting corporations and profits I voted conservative I made a mistakeIsnt it common knowledge that that is the priority system of conservatives|1 Theyll be greedy and come to workSome people need money to live To eat To sleep To pay for their kids to stay alive Its not greedy for some people|0 It totally works If youre worried about carbon emissions you should kill yourself immediately|0 The swine flu vaccine gave some people narcolepsy so I wouldnt be so happy trying something just in trials|1 Touching is the least of our concerns Being coughed or sneezed on is far more worrisome|0 whats your problem with San Francisco|0 I think OP means just regular old people who need help not necessarily from ChinaIm still not sure how my comment didnt answer the question Because as far as I know most of the cases in the US are from people who traveled to China And most of the people who have returned from China should be regularly monitored by local health departments for the virus|1 Lets list the bad memes1 Its just a flu2 Masks dont work3 Panic shopping is what happens before a Pandemic is declaredOur MSM is full of shit advice I hope that this is the main takeaway point lots of people get woke to Trust your own council because you might get things wrong we all do but it is bad when you synchronize being wrong with millions of other people at the same time|0 From the linked article An ABC News analysis of the presidents budget proposals compared to the congressionally approved spending plans ultimately enacted show both claims are true|1 At least in Beijing theyre making new arrivals from overseas pay for a 14day quarantineI believe its dying down but I dont believe there are no new cases|0 Do you think that the level of volume is sustainable over a long period of time 36 months or longerWhos going to be growingproducing all that food to feed everyone They may also be stuck at home or if not their employees may be stuck or sick|0 That article is blowing my mind Silver and garlic will help cure the virus What Were not living in a Blade movie Who are these people that think this shit|0 Youre right theres no point in shutting down colleges or schools right now absent an outbreakIm more concerned about a month from now when people are back from Spring Break While spring break probably helps in the case of K12 for colleges they will see tons of students travelling around spreading germs|1 Not to shit on this post but Its not real Just some fun|1 I really hope that the 5 million people who left Wuhan before quarantine would go to the nearest hospital to have themselves checked before contaging the whole world|1 It would be around 34 If it was calculated based on All Confirmed Cases which would explain the big difference But this is the method many are using to calculate the death rate so i opted to use the same oneAs for the Phone App issue Im currently working on the Phone Apps to fix all issues|0 Sure I live in a town near Milan and all my friends are there Today one of them left Milan and went to a town about 40 minutes away entering another province Lecco Nobody stopped her It really seems anybody does the fuck he wants even now I hope this happened just because the measures are new and police is not ready but I really expected the army to get on the pitch but it seems it wont|1 Pyro had moronic parents who were poor so your family has to die of coronavirus so that some poor kid doesnt feel bad and by extension have himself feel bad|0 Thanks and lets not compare countries Some feel it shames countries from more testing|1 At my company here in Switzerland many of our co workers even cough on purpose and smile because they dont believe its anything serious|1 I thought I was in rnottheonion but Good for them|1 Dismantling public health seems rational when it has proven ineffectiveGOP voters prefer to reduce the size influence and tax requirements of large government given the poor results shown for decades Where private options exist they usually achieve better results at a lower cost|0 Its been quite the opposite sadly There have been people getting kicked off public transport because they were wearing a mask|0 Haha good one|1 Definitely agree that theyre in the same family At the same time the Coronavirus that causes the common cold has specificity for upper respiratory epithelium whereas SARSCoV2 binds to AT2 receptors within the lungs This is what causes the large differences|1 Spreading awareness is the keynot at this point at this point EVERYWHERE knows and is either listening to actively ignoring it|0 Disaster Except were not headed for it were already there|0 It looks like social distancing is only being touted by states not recommended by the federal government So the US probably a lot more unchecked spread ahead of it|1 I hope Bernerd has got his packages of legislation ready or is actively working on them because I think come January if he wants to make sweeping changes to healthcare and other infrastructure concerns no one will stand in his way and the people that do will be shot asked to leave|1 Here he is saying the same exact thing just yesterday Maybe you should listen to doctors instead of the media and other people who fall for their fear mongering httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv39A7TrH29Ehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv39A7TrH29E|0 One upvote for you I work from home but my roommate is being forced to come in and take payments for people at a slimy used car establishment Her boss doesnt give a single fuck that they are potentially exposing employees to sick individuals If you arent filthy rich you shouldnt have to pay a dime during this crisis Matter of fact I think we ought to be getting some extra cash from the powers that be|0 My wife works retail I definitely worry about her Definitely a thank you to anyone in the world of retail|1 And the thing is China isnt out of the woods either They can still get reinfectedCooperation from all nations is critical|0 Theres no way that she came in contact with one of 5 people in the whole country How long have people been going in and out of Iran to Toronto and Vancouver the last couple of weeks|0 The Imam of peace is not a supporter of the Ayatholla regime Plus its the repeated criminal negligence of the CCP which caused this outbreak Their coverup attempts are the cause to its magnitude|0 Well this is technically correct but the numbers of infected are too low to say yet 50 of cases of ICU are under 50Germany is nowhere near this and we have 6k right now Early numbers are distorting|0 I didnt say that at all that was your own interpretation and assumptions Stick to quarantine practice social distancing to minimize this thing Im saying even in the very worst case scenario for coronavirus the vast majority of people on Earth will come out of this healthy and ready to move on Ive lost a relative before and Im fine Ive been in the hospital and Im fine Ive lost a job and Im fine Ive had investments crumble into nothing and Im fine Were gonna be ok|1 You can outright buy citizenship in some EU countriesOtherwise speaking about country I know just find a job healthcare is provided then stay a few years without causing trouble and eventually apply for citizenship|1 I wonder who snitched on Dr Li What a little shit|0 He was a rapist as well|0 That was not even remotely intelligent|0 South Korea 2 cases from February 9th that came from Macau they are currently added in Incheon Also some of the cases are from where they are currently being treated at and some from their cities of origin I would like to just have it one way or another if you happen to know where all the cases are being treated at OR where they were originally from please reply with a sourceEdit Thanks to upinkpaperheart uexpatfreedom uzaiisao uheestoryy Anseong has been added Ill be looking into the other links shortly|1 I am expecting a child in June this is nightmare fuel to say the least I am doing my best to stay calm for her sake but damn this really sucks|0 Hey thanks a lot|1 Imagine if this returns yearly with no vaccine|0 Theyll realize its a big deal when the jobs dry up China is a huge part of the international market for Hollywood films If certain big budget projects havent been delayed or outright canceled already Im sure they soon will be|1 Welp If I hadnt lost all faith in my government before this now I have thats just gotta be the final straw like wtaf|1 I dont think anybody actually prefers the current situation but anyone with any sense knows what wouls happen if someone tried to detach It could be made into a working system but it would require lots of effort and good will from all sides The country is basically stuck in place has been stuck for years and will remain stuck for the foreseeable futurebetter than a war I suppose|0 Millions arent going to die thats such an exaggerationMillions of cases Maybe Millions of deaths No chance|1 happy to hear that I hope she heals quickly|1 So far so good no symptomsthanks for asking |1 I hope so|1 Pilates is a wonderful way to get exercise and not over exert yourself|1 Hes wearing a respirator but getting upset about this|0 alright time to wait a couple weeks before we have even more case|1 People keep using the flu is worse argument and comparing death stats amongst the two Its hopeless|0 Excellent post thank you|1 Heh I suspect its because reports from government funded scienticianshttpsyoutubenRnt3TEVY dont really mean anything to government decisionmakers these days but there are plenty of people out there whod read such a paper and be influenced to action or lobbying by it Or its just pure science|0 Wow in what universe did I champion censorship and enslavement Are you one of the guys who always call people communist or socialists when people tend to have different opinions from yoursThe OP included an opinion of his in the title which as I pointed out did not exist in the original Wechat announcement What is wrong with pointing that out Just because you dont agree with it|1 I meant spectating this marathon basically loops through a big chunk of LA so its likely people will spectate is some way hopefully in a safer noncrowded way|1 Heres a sneak peek of rCOVID19 using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19topsorttoptall of all time1 No deaths reported in Coronavirus patients under 9 years old Death rate is 02 in patients under 39 years old Largest study to date sample size 70khttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsf69rxpnodeathsreportedincoronaviruspatientsunder 2 The team at the seattleflustudy have sequenced the genome the COVID19 community case reported yesterday from Snohomish County WA and have posted the sequence publicly to gisaidorg There are some enormous implications here 19httpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1233970271318503426s21 390 commentshttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfboufktheteamattheseattleflustudyhavesequenced 3 Britain to close school and ban public gathering for 2 months if COVID19 becomes a major threathttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfb7voxbritaintocloseschoolandbanpublicgatheringIm a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|0 Nothing discriminatory about wuhan flu Youll have to get over your objections|0 Press F for this brave man|1 I totally feel you I keep saying I DONT WANT to be RIGHT with my fears|0 You think its weird that a media organization is communicating more than a governmental agency|0 That conclusion is completely countered by the fact that doctors on the frontlines are calling respirators gold because theyre the only things giving many patients a chance at survival|1 Yes pretty much Its tricky There are 114000 homeless children in NYC Many more rely on the school for the only two hot meals theyll see and laundry and a safe place to spend their day Over a million parents depend on the NYC school system for free daycare that many cant otherwise afford Im not sure theres an end to this thing faster than mass vaccines in 1824 months I dont really want our kids on their own that long even if some people get sick|1 New York flu caseshttpswwwgooglecomurlsatsourcewebrctjurlhttpsnyshchealthnygovwebnyapdnewyorkstateflutrackerved2ahUKEwj71b3IuILoAhXMj3IEHRXIA4QFjAAegQIAxABusgAOvVaw24MTSU6CElK3XsMetYCJAM dropped 20 from last week so Im not worried yet|0 I hope so too right now my kindergartner is pumped for extra time home with Mom and Dad So at least we got stuck with a kid that still likes us Lol|1 I agree Sorry we got off on the wrong foot Lots of concern on this end for our elderly and at risk I was encouraged yesterday when I heard my 85 year old great aunt was reconsidering going to a large family gathering in a few weeks That gathering is a funeral for her cousin and would be the time for them all to see one another The majority of our family and close friends are all over 50 At this point they are coming to accept the seriousness of COVID19 And thats tough for them having lived through so much They understand now though this is different I wish you and yours good health and 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 I wish them well|1 and yall think capitalism breeds innovation its literally killing us|0 That explains why there are so many new people who still dont understand anything about what were up against Those of us who have been around since the original Wuhan collapse videos know whats up|0 Most international organizations eg WHO ASEAN anything UN etcAlso it hasnt been allowed to buy advanced US aircraft like say South Korea or Japan because China still claims sovereignty over it and would view Taiwan buying F35s as a significant escalation The fact that the sovereignty of Taiwan isnt universally recognized has wide ranging implications|1 Ive been saying this for about a week and I agree|1 Your job is compatible with home office and yet they refuse Thats criminal|0 Your right Im afraid something like that might happen Masks for medical is fine But we need kits to find out how explosive it actually is|1 It occurred to me a few days ago that might just be part of the plan Scare the expats and migrant workers into temporarily going to their home countries to free up beds and services here Most EU countries even Romania have so many more ICU beds per 100k than the UK yet a huge part of their workforce are here I think part of this scare the shit out of everyone then stand back has been a tool to get many to evacuate|1 Please never use Bild Zeitung as a source for anything their businessplan is basically making fucktons of money by spreading panic about literally anything by all so slightly changing headlines or missquoting Also huuge rightwing influencesEdit Thanks for everyone who clarified that other sources also now mentioned it my point was more that in general the Bild Zeitung can not be trusted as a good source for actual news The clickbaiting in this article alone is insane|0 Good to have as well but youre gonna need more protein|1 Theyve done a trial on a 100 patients when there are thousands of reported cases and many thousands more sent home to die WTF Why keep it away from their people|0 Youre likely right just looked it up and there was a recent outbreak in the town next to mine Thanks|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 That is only good for punishing a person after theyve committed their crime or here spread the disease further In the case of an epidemic we need to prevent this from happening and not allow things to get worse in the first place|0 GOP response nothingx200BMitch McConnell well block every bill aimed at providing reliefx200BTrump its all great economys the best magnificent team all these execs best in the world|1 She has like 510 chance to die from this|0 No problem Like I said I dont mind answering questions because if Im suffering at least let it mean something Mucinex DM helps in that I find the dry coughing to hurt the most because its just horrible violent wheezing At least with MDM the mucus thins and you can get something up which brings a bit of relief to your lungs Reclining partially instead of lying down flat while sleeping keeps me from waking up choking on lung fluidmucus and feeling like Im going to die I also try to make myself get up from my sickbed nest and walk around my house to stretch my bones and muscles and get a feel for how winded I get during activities Stock up on some kind of electrolyte drink I am not a doctor so I cant tell you which ones to get but from experience get something I drink a lot of water but while Ive been sick Im constantly thirsty and I drink a gatoradepoweradepropel and in one desperate care pedialyte just to feel less thirsty and like the water was doing me any good I hope this helps some Good luck 3|1 Probably its going to be lockdown or semilockdown in most countries until the vaccine is done Lockdown until the spread tapers off try to lift it slightly and allow some activity again then another cluster appears and new lockdown when you have community spread|1 Thanks for your concern the main epidemic situation is only happening in Wuhan which is under control The government is actively taking measures to deal with it all other cities has little impact we all believe everything will be restored soon s|1 Yeah but the idea is to replace it Yeah its definitely silly In glad we agree lol If I see someone outside here NOT wearing a mask I assume the worst in that person Probably unfairly so but I walk around with a baby so I dont want non mask wearing cretins near me lol|1 In the US just a month a go ASIAN WOMAN ALLEGEDLY ATTACKED IN NEW YORK SUBWAY STATION FOR WEARING PROTECTIVE MASK httpswwwnewsweekcomnewyorksubwayattackcoronaviruswomanmask1485842httpswwwnewsweekcomnewyorksubwayattackcoronaviruswomanmask1485842|0 Flu season crested a few weeks ago So if there is an uptake in flu it isnt the seasonal flu|0 No it was back in 2012 when the world ended|0 Breathing on each other sweating touching used machines is not a good idea|0 WSIB employees are being forced into a building with hundreds of others shared lunch room and foyer Its such bullshit because all of the nonunion employees managers were sent to work from home|0 One person says its not going to be a big deal REDDIT WE DID IT ITS BEEN CURED DONT WORRY|1 Troll Please do not feed|1 Its not quite as egregious as you make it sound Theyre not really evading the ban the ban just says that they can enter the country if they spend 14 days outside of China first which is what this university is telling students to do and they are offering the 1000 as reimbursement for having to fly to another country The reason for the 14 days is because the vast majority of cases show symptoms by thenSo theyre arent doing anything illegal or even unethical Theyre simply following the rules of the ban as written|0 Censorship No thanks|1 LMFAO Thank god were worried about the right things|1 So if we get to lets say over 10000000 will anyone even bother to continue testing At that point it might become impractical and good for nothing|1 Good but guiltyKappaI agree that he has got good intentions maybe even a good soul but he is directly responsible for the Windows monopoly and Hotmail privacy nightmare and indirectly for the system he still represents|1 Maybe if I can plan logistics It would suck for someone to sue me because they believe I passed the virus to them or something plus being a barber in NJ Im not allowed to do house calls per state board rules I could lose my license|0 The problem with your theory is threefold 1 it theoretically only took 1 person to spread th virus thus far 2 unknown retransmission rate 3 It has now mutated in two separate strains|0 Meh I just wanted to say murse haha I legit know like 15 nurses none of them are men|1 If I owned a plot of land and someone had a tent on it then sure Id freeze any charges I happened to be charging them If you want your landlord to freeze rent because you didnt save up any money try starting with humanising these humans|0 We can only hope|1 Yeaaaa its embarrassing and enraging af especially given my casual encounters with ridiculous food waste worked in a bakery at a grocery store the amount of waste pastries I took home oh boy|0 My assumptiondo you mean my opinion based on facts that no measures have been taken other than keep washing your hands You appear to be just as naively optimistic as the government is on its ambiguous and nonsensical strategy Im sure once weve lost loved ones eventually and the virus has wreaked havoc on the NHS well have it under wraps|1 My district is hardcore about kids missing school but we now have a case in my county and surrounding areas and Im getting antsy to pull them|0 People like this need to be charged with endangering the public health in the time of a health emergencyEverysingleoneofthem|1 I do one of my friends is on vacation there too|1 Yes use Any disease Thats the right one|1 Active cases Meaning the outcome hasnt been determined Look at the bottom line Its either you live or you die L|0 Yes They clamped on everybody In China war laws were enacted People who reported previously simply went quiet Probably arrested Impossible to know what happen to them exactly since no freedom of information|0 Karen would like to know your location|1 older staying indoors avoiding people normal routine cancelled vacation plans for april international flight|0 What doesnt this even mean Theres large public gatherings in Seattle including a marathon tomorrow that havent been cancelled Schools are still in session|1 I quit back in October I hope its been long enough to make a difference|1 httpstwittercomhopeseekrstatus1230251803599613959reddit corona vs reddit coronna Google autocorrects to corona and displays unfiltered resultsMy tweet needs 10000 retweets People need to see this shit|0 All our schools have just shut down in Ireland You have go get out of your house to help the others|1 There are a lot of neonazis these days and the hype machine has been attacking China from multiple angles these days with propaganda trying to stir up a new red scare So this fits in nicely for them|0 And the problem with British people is that they are very skeptical and its seen as pathetic to be concerned about things You cant even voice your worries without being laughed at and mocked Were going to see a huge outbreak here too its already beginning but itll be as bad as Italy in 2 weeks time mark my words|0 Reddit has a 17 minute delay to fetch comments or you can use our toolhttpswwwremindditcompouch to immediately create reminder from comment linkAtleastimclose your reminder 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and his predictions are an extreme outlier|1 Nah its more that they work for a bad industry so they can learn to work for a better industry|0 Hes such a lying twat No normal person would even say something like that|0 South Korea had a super spreader|1 Ive never left the country but I know people will assume im Chinese and sick even though I am not I already get grilled by Middle Aged women on the subway and I get angry because I know its the virus Its true I will be more likely to get harassed assaulted or just get weird looks its sad|0 Its the West Wing of disaster movies|0 Chiudi in Hindi means fuck which is a good metaphor for how I feel whenever I see an ad |0 He didnt actually have a fever he just complained about one He didnt have a dry cough His doctor initially said he wasnt going to test him but then found out he was allowed to so took the test anyway since the patient was clearly concerned and wanted the test doneNow we wait for the result Im 9999 confident that it will be negative|1 Shit|0 Ah that makes sense thanks for tracking all this Sounds like in all its probably in the 4045 range for case increase for the province|1 Ugh dude same Extremely immunocompromised mother who claims she is taking all necessary precautions Just got off the phone with her shes at the store and just saw a friend who got back from the UK two weeks ago Gave her a big hug because theres no way she could have it she just flew Did I mention were in the middle of the outbreak in Seattle We do all we can to try and save the ones we love but its never enough Stay strong|1 The nursing homes in Ontario might not be doing as much as you might think A lot of other health professionals move through there too therapists etc but in some cases arent getting well screened or provided with masks without prompting|0 Filter layer degrade over time the rubber strap degrade over time storing it over long period of time can also cause the filter to catch dustFilter layer has no organic compounds whats there to degrateRubber strap degrade over decades not in 5 years All the masks i saw were packaged in plastic no way to catch dustYou dont store one big batch and only rotate out every 5 years Logically speaking itll be often be used and deployed out too so itll be a rotating stock Not to mention that unless space is catered for warehouse space with manpower and resources cost moneyNo you buy 15th of a batch per year and use 15th of the batch per year on a rotating basisWarehouse space for this will be nothing compared to healthcare expenditure not even worth considering hereWelcome to the 2000s Majority of the manufacturing arm is all outsourced to ChinaYes like i said a persistent problem for decades|0 Putting relevance to the 17 recovered seems silly Those recvored are almost all from the initital outbreak in Bavaria in January where recovery was trackedIt is not tracked for most infected How do you track recovery for people with no or mild symptoms that just stay at home and are not looked at by a doctor|0 We cant stop the virus but we can flatten the curve by using social distancing It may not reduce total infections but it can reduce the death rate Overwhelmed hospitals could kill a lot of people both with Covid 19 and those with other health problems who cant get their normal treatment|0 Not true at all Bernie Sanders ideas are sometimes in opposition to Nordic policies and tradition For example Nordic countries dont have minimum wage laws they see this type of government intervention in private contracts problematic and allow unions to instead be the de facto enforcer of minimum wages On the other hand Sanders champions a federally mandated minimum wage of 15 bucks an hour despite it being a bad economic policy Nordic countries build upon a capitalistic backbone with social safety nets they have high levels of business freedom they have relatively low amounts of regulation and red tape and their budgets are balanced|1 God its such a mess I cant imagine what their COVID19 response will be in their hospitals and how ineffective it will be They are likely to leave sick patients sitting in the ER for days and giving them a followup care appointment four months later if past performance is any indication|1 He said that Americans in Europe will be allowed to fly back but they must be screened for the virus He did not mention outgoing flights|0 Read a spiritual text or at the very least get off of these subs and this news Anxiety over the future only spoils the now Watch a comedy Do something you enjoy as it will certainly boost your immune system right now|1 The more you identify the cases more chances that you can save them|1 Trump fired almost everyone whose job that was over the last 2 years Heads already rolled This is the direct consequence|0 Nice|1 Trump is actively murdering people right now with sheer incompetence lies and sabotage|0 Only if the company doesnt go bankrupt in the process This kind of assurance means nothing in the face of the reality of funding Sure they can assure that the company will face penalties but penalties means the company loses later or nowLikely better to just close the company and cross fingers hoping that the building hasnt found new tenants by the time the next few months of quarantine is over|1 Thats what early predictions were saying Late April to mid May for a major outbreak in the US Looks like were on track|1 I dont understand this sheeplecanon fooder mentality past the WW2I mean you would expect people to value life and injustice in this day and age of internet social media etcGovernments cant get away with any badly managed disasters But maybe I underestimate the ability of people to love their oppressors and evil decision makers|0 COVID19 cant come fast enough to rid us of morons like you|1 Just keep thinking Disney World will re open We will all be fine We lost our source of income for the foreseeable future Its amazing how quickly you stop giving a shit about catching the virus when you lose your job|0 I suggest a shower beer You dont have to get drunk But its good for relaxing and stress relief|1 While watching the penguins waddle around inside a building I halfexpected Batman to suddenly appear and do battle with them|0 Taiwan Singapore Philippines Thailand USA most of Europe etc arent negligent about it Media have spammed coronavirus for so long Japan has been too negligent anyway H1N1 in 2009 killed 280 000 people because MexicoUSA took 4 months to actually implemented dratic measures USA took 3 years to reveal the actual deaths number in the states for this disease This virus is far more controlled and wont have the same impact outside of Hubei who was 97of the deaths 81 of the cases and 94 of the new cases|0 It is downright prejudice with an undercurrent of systematic racism|0 What prevents it from simply allowing you to neglect people on ideological grounds and result in unnecessary death under the strange conviction you have that well run out of a fiat currency we ourselves produceI am not that paranoidThose arent laws those are federal agencies and none of them are funded to deal with anything on this scale What laws exactly are the ones that they can use to implement this determination of who is more worth trying to keep aliveYou would need a new law Are you really this denseWhich resources and how limited Do the plants on a farm stop growing and die the moment the farmer gets sick Are farmers incapable of being replaced with someone else if they get sick Do you think fiat currencies cant be conjured out of thin air If you do think so man wait till i show you what the Feds been doing in the repo marketAll resources are limitedYou can print money and you can also have a worse disaster on your hand when your money isnt worth the paper its printed on|0 Me too buddy Take some deep breaths I read an article about a 70 yr old Wuhan man visiting his friend today for the first time in two months Well make it through man Stay calm wash those hands|1 Friendly reminder that we know coronaviruses since 1960 with some sars mers being absolutely deadly but we were NEVER able to create any kind of working vaccine against them I hope humanity will be lucky this time|1 Good Boris Catch the virus and permanently retire Terminal retirement plan|1 How does one delay something they have zero to little data about|0 No its dumber than that Its more like way more people have died from cars than that train so let me just lay down on the tracks in front of it|0 While the hours are good they should do drive thru delivery Either night before drop off list or some other mechanism Dont let them out of the cars|1 I think the average time from infection to death is two weeks which is similar to the flu These numbers dont make sense Im no mathematician but if we had cases in the US Feburary 25th should we have already seen the asymptomatic phase pass and the symptomatic sick come to the surface Where are all the deathsx200BAn R0 of 24 makes the spread VERY quick and a mortality rate as high as 3 would be VERY obviousx200BWhat am I missing|0 Ole mikee looks pissed and embarrassed|0 Survival of the fittest at work here Lets not interrupt it |1 The oil fund has barely any investment in oil luckily|1 It sounds like there may have been a switch from a highly specific test PCR alone to a highly sensitive test CT PCR Seems sensible for containment purposes but Im not sure that CT positive cases should be included in tracking for epidemiological purposes Perhaps Im missing something here but I consider myself reasonably competent and I found todays statistics a bit confusing|1 Two things 1 In Italy they are discussing suspending mortgage payments as well Id imagine it would be similar here2 Who do you think on average has more savings in their account A landlord or a renter I think the goal is to help the people who rent and likely have only 2k in their savings or less and eventually would be forced to decide between food and paying rent|1 Its a weird event to be apart of But were not the first generation of humans to have to live thru a pandemic this has happened before with other virusessicknessWe never thought wed be here but here we are Good luck to all of us|1 Thank you 3 Im going to be getting hate in my inbox all day for that one been down this road before so I really appreciate you mentioning this|1 Im getting some downvotes and an eventual ban from that subreddit today The propaganda is crazy thereEdit haha Im already permanently banned from Sino All I did was copy a link of the real timeline of the spread of the virus and made like one comment about how the propaganda was real no cussing They are very sensitive there lol|0 Italy has the oldest population in the world and also very poor healthcare in certain regions You lot in this sub shoot for the scariest answer before addressing the logical|0 I live in Canada It is a physically enormous country Sparsely populated except for sections along the US border Yes we have police and a pretty small admittedly military but theyre going to be hard pressed to enforce a true quarantine outside of a few major city centres|1 Honestly I hope everyone who knows a medical professional can band together and support them through this in whatever way possible They are our front lines Who knows I might need my life saved during this you might we all might We just dont know and anything we can do to help our guys and gals on the front line is paramount|1 It is a longheld belief in hospital infection control that a mask is adequate for droplettransmitted infections We showed that the use of N95 respirators provides better protection against respiratory infections even those presumed to be spread predominantly by the droplet mode The targeted use of a respirator was also effective whereas no efficacy was demonstrated for medical masks alone However the trends suggest some degree of protection from medical masks and larger studies are required to measure the efficacy of these devicesFrom one of the studies about the ineffectiveness of masks you posted How did you get masks are ineffective from that|1 Because who gives the slightest fuck about anyone except yourself amiright|0 He was forced by authorities|0 You re right it is easier Norway also had the benefit of finding their national identity and gaining their insependence in a way that truly brought them together and founded a culture of everyone has a say nobody is better than the otherIm an immigrant hereand there have lots of us here Norway does struggle with immigration as all countries but they also have language and integration classes set up for you the moment you arrive as well as a structured government ststem to help with housing and workIts not perfect but its what keeps part of that us vs them mentality stemming from distrust and disgruntlement under controlPeople feel safe in this systemsure they have their differences and rub each other the wrong way occasionally and argue about priorities but rarely about the base system as its the default here Its normal to themAnd thats what keeps it going smoother than in France or Belgiumwhere Im from In Belgium two different cultures were tossed together without a say to found a countryand to this day those cultures dont trust each other because of itTheir social security works well enoughbut its got some serious updates and improvements to do compared to Norway and cant coz those groups are constantly bickering over whats fair and trying to outsmart the other groupThat mentality needs to change for them to truly thriveThat said the EU is about the size of the US and we all have social security Some places are better managed than others sure But your states coukd technically do the same Then its up to them to use that system in the proper way And no it wont be easyIve lived in Russia Belgium and Norway Russia like the US had a fractured infrastructure regarding social services with no real social security for their peopleIll tell ya Id live in Belgium or any EU country regardless of the management of their system before living in a country that doesn have one like the US or RussiaBut sure if I get to pick Norway or the other scandinavian countries are my top pick for sure|1 With a viral infection capturing 37 of the infected buys you just over sixseven days of additional time After that youre back to square one Impressive but still a failure|0 Well said|1 Well just make sure she knows to wear a mask and maybe goggles when she gets on the planegoes outside She should be fine|1 I own a business with 11 employees Who will pay us to stay home|0 Ill take Things never gonna happen for 1000 Alex|0 How can we make more money off the citizens While making it look like we actually care|1 My school is having a shared potluck style lunch todayIm eating my frozen meal alone in my room They are not taking it seriously at all in Oregon Eugene They tell us theres probably 300500 cases here but they only have tested 28|1 masks are for infected people Its to keep your cough restrained The droplets you think the mask is saving you from just land on your eyeballs The most likely scenario you get infected is your hands get infected Mask provide to the wearer very little possibly no protection|0 I am shaking hands I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were coronavirus patients and I was shaking hands with everybody you will be pleased to know and I continue to shake hands Its also worth knowing that he did no such thing He just fell back on his usual reflex of lying about anything and everything hes challenged on httpswwwtheneweuropeancouktopstoriesborisjohnsonandcoronavirusvictims16542714httpswwwtheneweuropeancouktopstoriesborisjohnsonandcoronavirusvictims16542714|0 If anything China and SK are good news that Italys intervention is viable Italy is about the same size as Hubei even and the other EU nations can be seen as the other provinces of China|1 yeah just bend over and take it all|1 Ok but I have some questions why didnt he shown the eight sacks on the bus How can we know the eight bodies are actually in the sacks How do we know he is actually getting arrested How did he upload the video it isnt live streamead cus youtube writes it in the upload time if it was a live streaming How do you know 9 people died in 5 minutes And how do you know the eight bodies arent declared on the countI dont want to sound like an asshole but why are most of you talking about this like it is a fact while there is no evidencesorry if my english is too bad hope is understandable|0 Thats totally screwed up My Safeway in MD has all the cashiers in gloves and big bottles of hand sanitizer at every checkout And people are using it I feel safer with the cashiers wearing glovesI live very close to NIH Walter Reed so a lot of people are pretty woke to whats going on|1 Honestly Ohare is an American embarrassment and disgrace Its dysfunctional and poorly run Looks like an airport that belongs in some poor soviet backwater I pledged never to fly through there ever again after one experience|0 Ok thats HD graphic|1 Can we please add this to the subreddit descriptionI was thinking the same The people peddling alarmist nonsense all over this sub are almost as irresponsible as the people saying coronavirus is just like the flu Plenty of people visit this sub for news about coronavirus but the fearmongering approach ramps up anxiety and stress especially when you see dramatic headlines like this one Ironically becoming more stressed weakens your immune system making you more susceptible to the virus The context left out of posts like this one is that yes a small number of under 40s will be very ill but doctors are easily going to notice these things because theyre on the frontline treating such patients What doctors dont see is the thousands of under 40s lying in bed at home with a fever and a cough being the worst symptoms of this virus|0 yea id like one too|1 If you havent seen it yet its your own fault been on repeat since it came out|0 You get supplies in case you are quarantined to reduce your exposure and overall spread And to ensure you eat|1 A lot of it is a legitimate business if you only watch stuff from the major studios you can be relatively sure all parts of the production are treated decently|1 Might wanna add an S to thatIf china goes the world economy takes a serious nosedive|0 Let me know Cause Im trying to plan on how is this gonna play out|1 I know its a ridiculous argument I could hear the panic in his voice as he was trying to justify it Were all just flying by the seat of our pants|0 Damn that hurts But were getting screwed too in terms of gasoline and stuffI usually pay about 14Liter for my gas In holiday season you can expect to pay 165 easily Diesel is a bit cheaper but you have to pay a ton of taxes for drivinga diesel|0 Foxconn is said to be operating at less than 50 capacity and Apple is saying theyre going to have a bad quarter due to this So buy puts on Apple Got it|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwnocutnewscokrnews5311057I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Honest question I dont have kids that age would it be unethical or cause panic if you told the school they were showing symptoms or had a new cough Could they postpone there exams or coursework I understand the worries people have in this situation you dont want them to get sick or pass anything on to at risk people but you also dont want to fuck up their exams and their futures and you also dont want to lie or bend the truth I have people in my family who are extremely high risk who Im staying away from atm I have a 2yo who isnt in daycare or anything yet sahm luckily so Im pretty much self isolating other than getting the essentials So with the schools staying open parents with kids in school are stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment|1 Im sorry that sounds like it was a tough conversation You did all you could and expressed your concern then maintained your boundaries It is her decision to go and its also 100 your decision to wait a certain amount of time before meeting her again after her return I hope you will both come to terms with your differences in opinion and realize that feelings of frustration on both sides stem from the fact that you two really seem to care for each other|1 Oh wow was the super spreader in a job position that saw a lot of people Or just saw a lot of people|1 I wish recovery to all patients I hope this virus ends Everything is beautiful This is good but very tired for the workers You are the best thing|1 reddit admins take control of his account and post hate speech all over the sub quarantine|0 A lot of reports like this are much too early to really know what the impacts of temperature are Is it that a warmer temperature kills Covid19 more quickly on surfaces Does it result in behaviour that helps prevent the virus Its not known Its like the early reports that cocaine was a Covid19 cure probably not that reliable this early into the pandemic|1 Since when were journalists the beacon of truth Lmao|1 I keep getting my ass handed to me by all the Italian and french kids stuck home playing fortnite all day|0 Yeah i too didnt see any lifestyle changes from before coronavirus|1 THIS ALL THIS I just dont know how to get the message out to the media my stupid friends who thinks its just the flu The stories coming out of Italy are horrible imagine being a doctor trying to decide who to save|0 I was wondering the same thing why has the government not been using the Emergency Alert System they tested just this year I lot of people out there are still very uninformed and not taking this seriously|0 JimEasy your reminder arrives in 6 months on 20200917 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It is going to be a different planet by the end of the year|0 Just dont get the order confused|0 Its possible that the death rate if it has been affected at all which is too minor to see with the natural fluctuations in the data may drop slightly because of the better cleanliness and social distancing of the elderly so they are not dying of regular seasonal illnesses|0 As a software engineer my skills dont really apply in the fight against COVID19 Im no medical professional or virologist so all I can personally do is try not to contract and spread the virus However it almost feels like a lost cause when I keep hearing about people that still think this is not a big deal and that take no precautions whatsoever Our governments dont seem to really do anything about it either they even play it down and reinforce the sentiment that this not a big deal That made my realize that we cant really rely on the government to protect us from thisThats why I created this website in hopes it will contribute to the effort Even if it only stops one person from getting infected So if you care about this and think its a good idea to educate and make people aware please tell your friends and family about this We need to do something|1 Could be anything The people who die here are older or have pre existing issues like hypertension and cardiovascular disease Or heavy smoking history If those arent the ones infected in Germany then they will likely survive just fine This isnt a death sentence for most people|1 Honestly I dont care if celebrities are getting tests quicker They are getting tested thats what matters Sure its unfortunate that people that are probably sick are going to suffer because of lack of available tests meaning more spread However celebrities getting tested means more people are going to start taking things serious Im tired of the paranoia this is just a flu or Flu kills more people so whats all the fuss Is what im STILL hearing Like right now|0 Im refuting the smoking claim The air pollution claim will be harder to suss outAny other excuses as to why its running away from the Italians and IrainiansI find it odd how much denial of the actual science there is here and rewarding of said denialism by schmucks like you|1 Because its a lot of alarmist rhetoric and 0 experts on here For example assume there were millions of tests performed and 100000 affectedpeople in this thread are claiming that the disease is spreading uncontrollably But with only 11 deaths the mortality Rate would be 00011 Not 3 So which is it Is COVID 19 spreading uncontrollably but the mortality rate is low OR is the mortality rate really high at 3 but there arent many casesthere isnt a run on hospitals anywhere with fevers It cant be both But thats what people are portraying So dont panic yet when you read that if everyone in America gets it tomorrow we will have 10Millon dead We certainly dont know everything but people in a panic are confusing the facts and its certainly impossible for everyone in America to get this at the same time|1 Till the set up road blocks and gate off trails Im going hiking throughout this|0 Quite true He did say something about cargo but Im not sure what exactly was said My take was that Trump was making Europe out to be the bad guy and using Europe as a scapegoat As if the US has actually been taking necessary steps this whole time I agree wholeheartedly on community spread|0 Do you seriously believe 15 million Americans will die from this virus Get a grip I would wager so much money that there will be WAY less than 1MM deaths in the US this year|0 Yeah good link to share Those wipes all have active ingredients and almost all of them are commercialinstitutional products that arent on the shelf at a regular grocery store|1 My daughter was at the doc on Thursday had a temp of 105 frequent dry cough lack of appetite tested negative for flu a flu b and strep and got chest xrays confirming pneumoniaNo covid test of course I get shes not in the at risk group but like what about like me her mom grandparents going back to school Just sent us home with some antibiotics and a good luck Theres many cases in our metro area too But she didnt highfive a bat on a trip to China so no testIts ridiculous people with no symptoms are gonna hog the tests if given the opportunity|1 If that was so every American could afford college without going into debt|1 I feel better hearing that about the air|1 Saw a Snapchat today of Ft Lauderdale Floridas beach is PACKED People are so fucking dumb|0 I think well see Alex Azar the Secretary of Health and Human Services either fired or resigning within a week Thats probably the closest well get to justice A fall guy will fall|1 You are both agreeing with eachother|1 Hopefully the people profiteering and lying which is causing people their lives get a public punishment decided by a jury of their peers where its the last time we see them alive|0 So we sacrifice them over others Closing vital services to the poor wont necessarily diminish spread bu sure as shit will increase desperation and death among a very fragile group My argument isnt pro keeping them open per se but that we cant just start forgoing parts of the population for our own sense of safety|0 Yes but you cant attribute all 1000000 deaths due to that single event If it was not already in 15 States and this one event allowed it out into the world then maybe but as it is no serious evaluation would lay the million deaths at the feet of the marathon|0 Thanks God|1 Have some places in this country lost its mind I went to the supermarket the other day and bar a few expected products missinglow it was the same as any normal day|0 If you do wanna take the chance stay at home and work remotely as most of Chinese have been doing for the past two monthsThis isnt an option for the vast majority of Americans|1 Not to mention that in the worst case scenario not only do covid patients die but also heart attack patients strokes etcOur HC workers are going to get either sick or burned out tooo fast Need to flatten the curve|0 Yea for some reasons china is lying for sure because Italy is in horrible shape Lets ignore South Korea numbers If anything it seems Italy has no capacity to properly test people so infected numbers in italy are horribly under reported|0 Its a good move but it also shows that one of the most advanced countries and world leader in economics needs help This shows that it is a more serious thing than what our media and politicians tell usLets hope there is a major breakthrough soon in understanding this virus better|1 Ok so you go to the Dr for ANYTHING that could be similar and they test youGet ready for the end of healthcare in NY You wont get anywhere near a Dr from now on Some are viewing this as good news I am not so sure Is there even a reliable test available in large quantities|1 Yeah that stuffs disappointing at best|1 The illness that is only partially known treated by more adept physicians together with the vaccine that has no reliable informationVsThe illness that is that is only partially known treated by standard doctorsIts not a decision Id like to make but I definitely think the first carries more risk overall|0 The US is properly equipped to handle this The CDC does NOT fuck around Wen they come here they will immediately be screened and isolated|1 Not a really good time to laugh but|1 Humans cant perceive exponential growth any more than fly expects to hit your windshield a week before you do|0 I was supposed to be going to universal and staying at Hard Rock We canceled this week and got a 100 refund We got credit for our flights The person we talked to at Hard Rock said a lot of cancelations have been coming in now|1 I dont even know why people care what others think Dont mention what youre doing and just do it Its not like theres a pantry police And tbh when you prep you might not want to go around telling everyone and their brother what youve got stocked away One security measure you can always take is to let other people think well theres Billy Bob he doesnt have a pot to piss in and theyll leave you the hell alone|0 Its mainly because the whole anything I dont agree with is racist argument has grown tedious and annoying It is losing its shock value with the general public and for good reason The day is coming when you will actually have to engage arguments with substance rather than just shouting thats racist and walking away feeling smug|0 Not even denial just outright ignorance until its on peoples doorsteps|0 This numbers are heavily a only on confirmed cases real case numbers are higher my personal estimate is real hospitilazation rate is more like 10 of all including unknown casesThese numbers are heavily skewed by age and preexisting conditions so if you are under 60 and are healthy you might have a really bad time laying at home but will most likely not need to stay in a hospitalSo is this fine noBut all one can realsitically do is as long as you are symptom free and didnt have contact with risk areas or infected people is minimize your personal risk as much as possible and well carry on|1 He was told what to say he is a shell of a man who says things to protect his status with his cronies|1 Why tf are they so nice omg |1 I care more about the human cost of this pandemic by an order of magnitude But I think you may be rightThis feels like the The fundamentals of our economy are strong moment of the Trump presidency When people see hospitals overrun with sick people and their 401k demolished they are going to start asking why they would want someone in the presidency whose top bullet points on his resume was a bunch of bankruptcies and a reality TV show|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I think tests per capita might be a better metric We do have a low population Jim Justice doesnt seem to have a real plan though All of the other governors are so articulate and at least approach us like they have a grip He seems more like a small town sheriff in the face of an apocolypse now everyone just hold on a minute all of this panickin aint gonna help no one were gonna beat this nasty little bug|1 Lol Electric Mike will find a unique way to fuck this up|0 Wet markets are not a part of Chinese culture they are a product of the CCP For all of you that are confused about the zoonotic transmission of this virus animal reservoir eg horseshoe bats indirect host maybe pangolins humans|0 I mean they pay 11hour minimum wages so they arent really on my shit list like basically all fast food places|0 The infection is spreading in the wrong Washington|0 Someone got stabbed at a costco over water saw a video recently|0 Lol well this is my throwaway account so idec about karma on this one|1 We dont actively seek out anything like that Young people overall are much safer and almost never die Why would we suppress that We only want good verified information Obviously mistakes are made there are over 60 mods Nobody is perfect If you think a mistake has been made you can always send a modmail|1 Yes but youre dead|0 You can always use a knife for that The knife will dull after some use but its good enough for cans and you still got other knives Also you cna sharpen them if you got one of these sharpening stones a few bucks at a home repair store|1 Good ol race baitingCCP isnt a race I am not altright Dont give us bullshit like prominent medical experts said bla bla Thats argument from authority fallacy We have eyes and ears we can see shit for ourselves|1 Thanks|1 Yes the expansion and contraction of the materials as it heats and cools causes degradation and possible failure over long enough time spans Running it at 100 constantly is going to last longer than variable workloads Either way though modern chips are unlikely to fail before becoming obsolete|0 Anxiety attack from exhaustion|0 Unfortunately very true especially in my school district who place our safety on the line on a regular basis Hopefully our principals and superintendent gets the virus and has to shut the district down|1 The ineptitude of this administration has been a joy for conservatives when it comes to owning the libs but now that they have a real need for their incompetent government to actually get their shit together it isnt so funny anymore A lot of trump supporters I know are angry and scared right now This is what happens when you fall for Russian propaganda|0 The world has literally always been this way and always willGreat attitude champ|1 Is there a freedom of speech subreddit where I can view these extraordinary and alarming commentary|1 Edit to add I thought I was responding to ufadedpixel but part of this is also a response to you And yes if theres another wave later hopefully our immune systems can handle it and not overload like 1918 flu second waveIm not saying herd immunity should be our strategy because it will take too long before we reach critical mass in enough of the population for it to be a factor But I was just saying it will eventually be part of how we beat this Unless it never develops and we have another endemic illness And of course a vaccine would be great whenever that comesEdit to add To be fair I said itll work for some but not to rely on itI dont know how long herd immunity will actually take If this virus has a long incubation period followed by weeks of illness weeks for some days for others and eventual recovery thats going to be a while Sorry I dont have a true estimate But it cant be that quick except for the hotspots were seeing So localized yes Globally a whileNow that Im responding to you I realize the danger in saying something that could give people the wrong idea Me splitting hairs isnt helpful I just want people to know 1 not to rely on that for a strategy and 2 not to throw it out eitherI havent listened to Joe Rogans podcast yet though Ive heard of Dr Osterholm before Is that the one youre talking about I see it all over youtube right now|0 Sweden is a failed state extreme left remember|0 Good to know also now I have a new rabbit hole to go down Research here I come |1 I wish they were silent but they wont stop coughing|1 I believe their jobs as shown but this very blatant bit of dumbfuckery are primarily political While they may be helpful in small outbreaks This pretty much indicates they are primarily a dog and pony show to put out the message that the governments of the world care about world healthSince they apparently no longer understand the world pandemic and the world is in one I suppose they no longer need any funding|1 Sadly it is all fake like rasianscriptedgifs the whole article is a fake|0 Hahaha the fact that you dont know that and think its so unbelievable is hilarious Like you honestly believe its some communist thing that only leads to a banana republic when the fact is that youre the only country isnt he work with the worst labor laws and you deliberately make your people suffer just to make the 1 that little bit richer Who said brain washing was a thing of the past America is a great place for the modern billion heir but terrible for everyone else Whats worse is you almost destroyed your middle class Id call them the working poor now and your health care system is a joke None of it needs to be that way Try and think about the shit you spew before you spew it|1 Scary but how big is Netherlands One boy 16 years old that is bound to happen Just like its bound to happen that maybe even me 24 year old will end up in critical care|1 I apologise if I appear confrontational I just want to get involved in the discussion but is that not a serious problem in and of itself If medical treatment is not effective what happens to the elderly when they are infected and cannot fight the virus alone In fact I have heard that the youngest person to die so far was 36 in the spirit of honesty Ill say that I do not know if this is true or not which suggests that it could devastate older groups of people|0 Yeah it is Even knowing this was going to happen its still unworldly watching it|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Pff stupid millenials must have spent all their money on avocado toast if this pandemic is a problem for them Should have saved more and bought a couple 400k houses to then rent out and live off of like the boomers On a serious note its possible that the economic impact could be more costly than the virus|0 From what Ive seen the worst is the reality The story has not only hit Breitbart and Gateway Pundit but even the tech blogs are looking askance at it|0 A fever is one way your body fights an infection but the immune system is very far from perfect You risk serious complications or even death if you ignore a dangerously high temperature In this case it would be important to monitor your temperature and take paracetamol when necessary|0 Here in Singapore our Ubers equivalent is called Grab which acquired Uber South East Asia a few years ago They are providing a one time cash reimbursement plus 200 per sick leave day for drivers The 200 per day also applies if you are quarantined for contact or arriving from an affected country They pretty much blew everyone away when they announced the package|0 Watch this be a case of undocumented workers for the other sick cruse being moved to the rest of their fleet and infecting people conspiracy hat|0 thanks I have been thinking about that of late Never done it in my life but I just might have to for once before its too late|1 I say the same thing about my country and no one including my colleagues and family give a damn about it I am a post grad pediatric resident|0 I think China is done in terms of business youd be mental to return there world factories and companies I mean We can never trust them again|0 Yeah for real I see lots of Americans on here acting like they are powerless HELLO The only way weve ever won stuff is by organizing mass actionvoting Bernie 2020 please spare that man from COVID19|1 Heh|0 Most doctors here realize itMy wife works in health care Shes been saying for a week now that its far to late to do much since its been circulating for 8ish weeks among the populated areas Just ride this wave out Some gonna die some gonna get a cold Way of the beast|0 Dont name the facility It could hurt youThe sweat could have been from your nurse actually being warm A cough by itself means nothing There is flu going around Ill bet he would know the actual symptoms of covid19 so youre probably fine|0 Because 98 will be fine|1 Thats a real possibility They are watching the failure of the democracies ability to handle this Pandemic Thats the big picture But any humanitarian efforts should be appreciated|1 Eminent domain that shit|0 Read the article The company is paying up to two weeks of leave for those who contract covid19|0 Ikr There is no excuse to blame China for this Look at South Korea Hong Kong Taiwan and Singapore etc|0 I say 48 hours before its 10k easily|1 Ill have you know I only bought one fashionable anime n95 mask ahhhhh thank you|0 Crazy right I remember seeing a video about that with the taxi driver and a person getting a ride talking about it and then maybe 2 or 3 weeks later things were getting better there I call bullshit when I see it and Ive never been there before |0 people forget quickly it will hit us next fall and people will be like HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN|1 Ive been getting judged like crazy for wearing a mask Do people not understanding that Im protecting their safety too The more people wear masks the safer we all are|1 I will be messaging you in 14 days on 20200327 073712 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003272007371220UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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lives|1 I work at McDonalds and while we dont get suits masks or hazard pay for stuff like this those who are making the food wear gloves at all times and have a strict rule for hand washing Everyone washes their hands every 30 minutes|1 I helped hang some of those stupid posters The party line atm is to stay calm and wash your hands Yeah like thatll help when students are living in dorms and walking around and eating at a buffet and interacting with people Not to mention bussing and books and small classrooms with large class size etc etc Half my family is high risk for this fucking thing and no one gives a shit in the admin because they can all comfortably work from home or dont interact with people at the front line And Im not even alone in that feeling We literally have employees how many of you have an ancient prof or ten who are high risk to die but wash your hands dont touch your face Sorry for the rant I just really agree with you|0 We have universal healthcare for all here in sweden however the healthcare is already at full capacity with 700 infected so might as well have nothing|0 To me the whole article seems deeply flawed though they appear to have started off with the thesis that social distancing is more effective than quarantines and then proceeded to construct their model of a quarantine so that its sufficiently ineffective that they are rightThe most obvious evidence if this is that everyone still ended up infected in their model and the whole idea of a quarantine is that it works to reduce the effective reproduction number below 1 which their model clearly didnt|1 No one is getting diagnosed because theyre not testing unless youre a few steps short of death|0 Were not even testing anyone unless they have latestage symptoms or recent travel history Its past the risk of explosion stage already The only reason the number of infected is so low is because theres no official screening being doneRead this tweet of a persons experience trying to get tested httpsmobiletwittercomintothebrushstatus1234685467682979840httpsmobiletwittercomintothebrushstatus1234685467682979840|0 Its like that gun meme of the guy himself putting a gun to his own head by his duplicate lol|1 Worst hot take ever|0 So what approach is better for the economy in the end the only valid question as we all know Being proactive or putting the lid on|1 No fair PlagueInc doesnt have a button for messing with data to cover up fuck ups|0 This isnt a particularly useful policy but fuck this guy|0 At the very least its good youre out away from the urban centers for your health then Best of luck to you and your family|1 The idea Ive seen thrown around in various places is that theres not much we can do short of a full shutdown of the society like in Wuhan and even that is of limited effectivenessSo the strategy was is to try to minimize panic Nothing more Why freak everyone out when 70 of us are going to get infected unless you are prepared to live in a bunker for the next 612 monthsI dont agree with it but I understand it|0 Aww bless them for asking That would have been tough to do after mocking you Enjoy the vindication but maybe silently I dont blame people really The media cry wolf a lot hyping everyone up about this or that disaster Theres lots of perfectly lovely people out there who just dont follow the news very closely and didnt really see this coming Im prepared for the worst and even Im feeling a bit bewildered so imagine being blindsided like that|1 Well written and a good read You have made some points Ive been trying to tell people but most dont want to listenAlso your username isnt Eulers formula is it|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Exactly So annoying All the countries are taking extreme measures now except for well the UK of course|0 These are all the symptoms hes been feeling thus far very sudden development It only took one day from feeling mild discomfort to full on sore and feeling most of the symptoms tender to the touch on the left side of the jugular area Sore when swallowing Moments of lacking critical thinking Fatigue No visual swelling in the neck area but he is having warmth sensations in his throat in the lymph node area about every 10 minutes or so He speculated that it could be draining Possible discoloration spot on the left corner upper lip that appeared at the beginning of the day and then was gone a day later I listed this as a possible system because we thought it was a cold sore but it did not blister up and he doesnt get phantom patches of redness like this everThis is day threeEdit This is day Four actually my mistake|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than 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234 and jailed for up to 6 months|0 I would assume that your overall health and condition of your immunity system are the most important factors The virus is too new These are the from China and they are best thing we have at the moment South Korea has been really good at blanket testing so we should get much better data from them soonIn the meantime take care of your immune system eat healthy sleep well take supplements vitamin C and D zinc glutamine This should put you in a much better risk bracket regardless of preexisting conditions|1 Thats darkhttpsmeatrecipeswonderhowtocomhowtohowtoeathuman0122609Probably want to ensure an internal temp of 165 to ensure no viruses or bacteria survives|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rchinaflu Reddit user debunks deliberately misleading Twitter posthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf23l74reddituserdebunksdeliberatelymisleadingnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Ive mentioned it already elsewhere I think the 2009 is to blame The article I link below is actually not that relevant except for the two excerpts I quote but I could as well find some other articles with similar claims Basically WHO in 2009 reacted decisively declared pandemics governments invested a lot of money and nothing happened So massive whos to blame campaign startedhttpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enhttpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enIn 2009 governments throughout the world mounted large and costly responses to the H1N1 influenza outbreak These efforts were largely justified on the premise that H1N1 influenza and seasonal influenza required different management a premise reinforced by the decision on the part of the World Health Organization WHO to label the H1N1 influenza outbreak a pandemic However the outbreak had far less serious consequences than experts had predicted a fact that led many to wonder if the public health responses to H1N1 had not been disproportionately aggressive1httpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enR13httpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enR3 In addition concern over ties between WHO advisers and industry fuelled suspicion about the independence and appropriateness of the decisions made at the national and international levelsin the case of H1N1 governments mounted extraordinary and costly responses to what turned out to be mostly ordinary disease29httpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enR2930httpswwwwhointbulletinvolumes89711086173enR30 This resulted in much scrutiny and controversy over the decisionmaking process As future policy responses to emerging infectious diseases will not succeed without the trust and understanding of the public officials must revise the way they think about and characterize emerging diseasesI feel basically that after previous backslash WHO is more afraid that governments will go for their throats again than about public health dangers|0 Are we sure that one develops permanent immunity though From what ive reading ive seen conflicting reportsFor instance Why are we emphasising herd immunity now Does coronavirus induce strong herd immunity or is it like flu where immunity remains weak and new strains emerge each year We have much to learn about Covid19 immune responses Doesnt this contradict WHO policy Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus WHO directorgeneral said after declaring a pandemic The idea that countries should shift from containment to mitigation is wrong and dangerous httpswwwtheguardiancomcommentisfree2020mar15ukcovid19strategyquestionsunansweredcoronavirusoutbreak Ive seen some reports like this what are we to make of them |0 I couldnt agree more re supplies If we all just stay home we can get by on a reasonable amount of supplies The hoarding surplus needs to be given to those who NEED it who are in actual contact with high risk people If youre inside and follow quarantine protocol you just dont need that much Period Yes I joined a local network for that My phone number is on a list and I may or may not be contacted if someone near me needs an errand boy Ive been delivering stuff to my selfquarantining moms garage too Mostly books and puzzles and stuff but Ill get anything for the lady if she needs it Im glad youre thinking about this stuff too Its so important to look out for one another|1 OH NO|0 The test kit has a problem right now They are trying to fix it but its going to take time|0 Okay but my point still stands We have a vaccine with variable levels of efficacy and we still get that mortality rate Im not disagreeing that a 2 mortality rate is worse than a 02 mortality rate seen in some flu years But we also have Tamiflu too a direct antiviral in spite of those rates Coronavirus has no treatment right now meaning it you get sick with it its mostly up to your immune system to treat it and not fuck up overtreating it|0 He is not dead he is still attached to the ECMO|1 Im in Portland Oregon if you are too I would be happy to help if I can go to the store for you or find some donated supplies|1 Actually not entirely true Smaller bodies tend to be more agile If recommendations come from top experts and are implemented by state and local governments with support from federal on top it could be the best of both worlds We will see|1 But thats my point They have liabilities they have to meet that arent reflected in the performance of the underlying assets This potentially threatens the viability of the pension funds themselves The Norwegian sovereign wealth fund is big enough that it wont be a problem for it but I suspect even that might have to liquidate assets to meet cash flow That in turn will further drag down the stock marketAnd for smaller non state pension funds It might be interesting if dividends just stop|0 Toothpicks can hold the virus while stainless steal buttons cant|0 That sex imbalance is freaking crazy 75 male Why is that so disparate|0 No theyre not Nonessential shops are though|0 There were reports of Alberta doing 1000 test last weekend alone Your graph shows less that that and says its total tests not persons|0 Your problem is that you use Facebook Delete Facebookhttpsdeletefacebookcom|0 Employers especially in the tech sector have moved towards putting teams of people in smaller and smaller open spaces under the guise of collaboration Beyond that it becomes exceptionally difficult to concentrate on a task when you have all sorts of visual distractions due to a lack of cubicle walls it also encourage the spread of germsSo many studies have been ignored because somebody in management wanted to save money on walls and square feet Its going to come back to bite them big time if they delay implementing working from home|0 Ok Im a recovered patient and I have something to share with all of you First I have had mild symptoms which only bothered me for no more than 48 hours To be sure I went to the local hospital and got tested positive My lungs were totally ok because Xray scans showed no abnormally I was isolated for about 3 weeks actually until I finally got tested negative on the 23rd day It is true that many people have only mild symptoms but the problem is not about yourself The problem is that if you have spread the virus to elder people who already have diabetes or heart issues they may be in great danger and their death rate is far higher than 1 So please get serious about this if you do care about others|0 Spoken like somebody who has no idea what they are talking about This idea that retail workers are easily replaceable is patently untrue Sure its a job that has no requirements but its a job that hardly anybody wants Turnover rate is incredibly high in all retail jobs Short of you not showing up half the month or doing absolutely nothing while at work you are not ever in danger of losing your job at a Walmart store They absolutely need people Its pretty much mandatory overtime 247 and it still isnt enough to cover what they needSame goes for the distribution centers which actually do pay pretty decently Sure they will talk big about their policies regarding attendance and production but at the end of the day they cant enforce it because they cant keep people Its better to have somebody who doesnt come in every day or doesnt meet production goals than nobody at all|1 Mass shooting or Corona virus Pick your poison Why not both|0 Its not super contagious compared to something like influenza in terms of risk of infection on exposureFirst COVID19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza from the data we have so farhttpswwwwhointdgspeechesdetailwhodirectorgeneralsopeningremarksatthemediabriefingoncovid193march2020It has a much longer infectious period than the flu So it can still get you itll just take longer It has lots of time so gets lots of chances It spreads like a less infectious cold Most colds are highly infectiousLess infectious doesnt mean not really infectiousHandwashing and social distancing should do a great deal to shut that shit downI feel like the obvious comparison is TB But this will definitely spread faster than TBSomeone with actual expertise might pop up and explain why Ive misunderstood this completely In such event theyre right|1 This is false information RBC moved its head office operations to WFH last Wednesday So did most of the rest of Bay St Torontos downtown core today is a ghost of what it normally isThe best sideeffect of this was according to a friend that the load on Torontos TTC was markedly down and truly empty off of peak hours downtown I normally take it but also moved to WFH last Wednesday Given that the virus is communicated very effectively via breathing a sparse TTC is less of a vectorThe Superior Court of Justice Divisional Court and Court of Appeal are now closed in Ontario by the way Its emergency only in our courts|1 the herd immunity plan will kill about half a million people according to this study so probably not and the suppression model will throw the country into a depression x200BNot great choices which they also mention|0 Also consider the majority of asymptomatic people living in the quarantine zone probably went out in public to leave the zone before sunday so could have increased exposure among that population Hopefully growth rate slows in the coming weeks|1 Here in Denmark theyve decided to only test ppl who are sick enough to go to the hospital They say they dont want to spend time testing ppl with minor symptoms the ones who can weather it out on their own and focus on the ppl who need medical help|0 Same I am urgently asking my husband to tell his main boss that he wants to work from home the next couple of weeks There is no way in hell I want him going into his office when he works in a city surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people every day Its literally making sick to my stomach because I feeling Im the only one whos taking it seriously within my realm of family and friends My husband is too but he cant just not go to his officeto work Hes going to have to tell them his plan of action and hopefully they will understand This is not funny and everyone around me seems to think its a joke Its going to get really bad and I hope they start taking it seriously soon I hope everyone whos reading this comment takes things seriously and prepares Make sure your elderly have the medicine they need make sure you have food in your home and please stop saying its just like the flu I think I repeated myself but this is a pretty scary situation and to watch everybody post memes and a joking manner on social media and say its like the flu is really just making me angry Its false information If anything this closely relates to pneumonia because of the respiratory issues Anyway sending love to everyone and please take it seriously This is your life were talking about here|1 Why are you not worried about social stability Tehran chose to have elections despite covid19 They helped spread virus I would think people are upset at gov Stay safe|1 Almost definitely the same way it spreads through cruise ships the food and laundry delivery guys|1 Does anyone even give a shit what the WHO says at this pointThese are the same people who said flights from china should resume|0 Antarctica is safe|1 Actually good news since I made that commentJury duty is cancelled and my doctor is allowing me to have my check up on video chat |1 But on the other hand media outlets like Fox News are still downplaying this outbreak as not a big deal and I think that kind of shit is way more damagingOne thing that is absolutely a big deal that theyre not talking about is about how absolutely fucked so many people will be financially Unless they step this up the economy will be in shambles But of course that would go against the narrative of trump having the best economy ever But i meanits already a fucking mess But its absolutely going to get worse Everything Trump does seems aimed at deliberately fucking with the US economy|0 It really depends as people pointed out For example on the cruise ships you expect nearly everyone to get tested so that number would be near 100 South Korea is also doing a lot of testing On the other end the US has been slow to test people so 30 could be a reasonable estimate or maybe not I dont knowAnd of course take all this with a grain of salt All sorts of things affect this like agehealth distribution healthcare etc|1 Cant cook as in unable Or cant cook because of not willing to learn I do believe its important to keep jobs open but does this not make a potential quarantine pointless|1 Coronavirus the hero in disguise|1 Are youARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEWHAT IN GODS FUCKING NAME IS THIS Just fucking wow England just FUCKING wow|1 Well thats one way to do it|1 The Chinese are very kind people and I hope this passes soon I hope we ca all help each other from this day forward Everyone deserves to be healthy and happy|1 its more like 35 obese and 40 overweight but yeah america is FAT|1 You miss the point Those very specific testing criteria boil down to just this are you sick enough to go to the hospital In Berlin they even have a walkin testing facility no questions asked Compare that to Wuhan where with a Covid diagnostic on the CT and youre in the parking lot with an IV and oxigen you still dont get tested Then look at the case fatality rate for China vs everywhere else and you clearly see most countries that took the same measures as China are seing 23x more deaths then the Chinese reported I mean again how do you account for Italy reporting more dead in a day then China The big outlier is Taiwan who took drastic measures and has what 77 cases thats what happens when you dont listen to the CCP While Japan and SK did listen and delayed all measures and left flights from China and look at their numbers But again thats neither here nor there|0 Why sue him Arrest that piece of garbage and throw him in a cage|0 Shortness of breath is a broad term it could simply mean hes getting winded easily Not that hes sitting at rest having a hard time breathing|1 Looking at breakdowns for the US budget that is almost certainly not where Gates money would be going|1 Can confirm this one Im a pharmacist at a chain and am immunocompromised because of transplant medication Still at work And we were all told we cant wear masks or gloves because it might scare patients Basically get to stand farther from the counter for counseling|0 who gives a shit about losing 1 year of schooleven if she misses it she can study a lot of things in the meantime|0 Even if he got quarentined without his charger surely he would have asked somebody with a working phone to report on his whereabouts Ive seen pictures of people using their phones in that makeshift mass quarantine centre and I dont believe a prolific vlogger wouldnt find a way to communicate with the world|0 Yep I believe it is already here We have a large population very multicultural with people traveling in and out of Canada via Mtl or Toronto|1 Oh fuck|0 So you manged to make this politic I bet if Israel created the vaccine you would figure out a way to demonize them as well|1 Good move from the Australian Government|1 Your water heater is a huge source of water if need be|1 What is in elderberry I hear so many good things about it I wonder what makes it work|1 I used to think that getting the virus early would be a good plan as youd have access to healthcare before it gets overloaded Now Im seeing that even with a completely functional healthcare system you still have a high chance of dying based on the confirmed cases vs deaths in Washington By American standards|1 Stocks are fine your stonks on the other hand|1 I wondered that as well but it looks as though the Govt has done a massive uturn see the Guardian They will try to downplay it|1 You asked why stress over peoples stupidity Because stupid people have a way of making their problems your problem And we cant say that this one disaster the virus will prevent any other disasters from happening at the same time Other shit will continue to break and go wrong the planet will continue to try to kill us with weather events conflicts of all kinds will go on locusts are wiping out crops etc Is Australia still burning Something is on fire somewhere Im not saying its end times or anything silly but theres always a chance for things to get worse Ive been following this virus for six weeks now and today its about twenty miles from home People are buying everything they think they should buy Its like clockwork|0 I am surelyNurse confirmed I have all matching symptoms but the doctor will not order a test because I am not connected to any known cases What the fuck even Unbelievably furious about this response|0 Thank you for taking the time to write this This really helps calm my mind down|1 I think him Merkel and Drosten are in daily contact i trust them|1 Yes but donnie cant fire Professor Fauci and then expect silence So he has to permit Fauci to let important truths percolate like flattening the curve of truth|1 The only thing we have right now is this moment Its the only thing that is real Every human brain is wired to imagine every possible threat scenario to make sure we survive This is the fear you feel but you can control it It is your job to focus on the fundamentals You can assume you will have water and electricity You must plan for the most essential items like food and medications Remember you have life Where there is life there is hope Work hard to center your thoughts on gratitude How do you do that Write a list every day of 10 things you are grateful for Start with the most basic and fundamental comforts we in America take for granted Go back to these lists when fear starts to consume you Accept right now that we are at the beginning of a pandemic Determine what is within your control to prepare and what is not within your control Its important to stay focused on what you can control We can not control what happens to us But we can control our response Remember You are the result of millions of years of your ancestors facing threats and surviving Survival is encoded in your DNA Stay focused on today Stay focused on what you can control Fill your thoughts with gratitude Know that you have the strength to overcome this damn virus Stay strong Peace to you|1 I said that last week but unfortunate to hear confirmationInfluenza vaccine took 20 years 1918 1940Never made a vaccine for SARS 2002 MERS 2013 still doesnt have a vaccine and infects a few thousand annuallyj|0 Because 1 it causes a run on limited supplies now those who need it cant get any because fools are wearing them for days on end in public N95 protection doesnt last very long the type of mask pictured doesnt protect at all2 false sense of security that you cant get sick now you will likely slack on washing your hands going into large crowds you will be far more likely to get sick or spread|1 Sorry I was stoned when I posted this |0 Nah weve pretty much stopped testing We know we will run out of tests soon and have decided its not feasible|1 Kids arent immune they just dont seem to show symptoms The virus is detectable but so far it seems little kids dont get ill Theyre still potential carriers though even if asymptomatic|1 Yeah Im a bit confused on this as well My mother works in a hospital lab here in the states and she says they were told today that it is less virulent than the flu|0 TIL data caps are still a thing in the US Holy shit|0 But the key is how long you wear it safely I know but you dont note that Thats the key Allowing the mask to expel moisture and remove moisture are two different thingsEdit Cant cite moron|1 Death and Recoveries being almost the same in number doesnt give me much hope |0 It would be great but people are not listening to these warnings here Im sure some are but I have had coworkers coming into work sick and have seen plenty of 60 people still going about life normally Everyone at my company is still coming into work despite being able to easily work from home I am somewhat new but have gotten set up to begin working from home starting tomorrow|1 I think contain means trace all contacts of positive cases isolate them and test them The delay phase you give up on that and keep people in small groups no sports no funerals To reduce community spread Part of the government thinking is that we the public will only put up with the delay restrictions for so long and once we are convinced it is serious There were fewer new cases today than yesterday so difficult to raise the threat level and have it respected|0 Thats true as well as the fact that they are a huge risk Their job is literally traveling all over the country If an NBA player has it theyve been to 5 or 6 major cities in the past 14 days and if the people theyve played have it theyve traveled to 5 or 6 other major cities in 2 weeks If I had it however I havent been more than 20 miles from my house in 2 weeks|1 But why do you believe this In order to come to that conclusion youre jettisoning 9999 of the data that exists You legit want to throw out 140000 or whatever the number is at this instant cases and just look at 706 Thats just dumb|0 I recently learned how to make my own masks using fabrics and my own sewing machine Im also using a carboncharcoal filter I bought on Amazon to add to the protection of these masks If youre interested here is my Etsy Im putting masks up there as I complete sewing them for a few dollars httpswwwetsycomshopJust4FunToysAndGifts|1 When you play a game of thrones you win or you die|1 R naught R0 is the basic reproductive rate of an infectionbasically it tells us how contagious something is The ratio is an average of the expected number of direct infections that would result from one infected subject in a susceptible and unvaccinated population Measles is at like R0 12 so 1 infected subject can spread it directly to 12 subjects Covid19 is between 1 and 4ish depending on whose info you trustEdited to add that it sounds like the OP was saying that social distancing will reduce the R0 to 04 but Id respectfully take that with a grain of salt Anything under an R0 of 1 is considered non contagious as I understand it and seeing as how this is def contagious puts it at a minimum R0 of 1|0 Great can we start testing whole cities everywhere else pleaseIn FL you need a Drs note and an appointment to go to the drive thru testing tent Asinine|1 In Wuhan in the early time they can only test hundreds people one day where there are thousands patients here when they can test thousands people one day there have accumulated ten thousand people this is why there is a peak day when Wuhan decided to diagnose by CT so there are many people could died but not diagnosed|0 Just rumors right now but the source is solid Cant say any more|1 Im in st Louis too Thanks for sharing this info Thats ridiculous That man has no concern for the sick and elderly of our community makes me sick|0 Color me surprised I thought youd use chop sticks|1 He will be hidden away He denied testing positive so clearly he has it Man has never told the truth in his life|1 I hope all the best for your daughterI know she probably sick of this advice but Observe good hygiene practice wash hands face mask if none available just use one of the tshirt or something glasses Regularly wash mouthgargle with listerine Get a nice dose of morning suns vitamin D|1 So are coronaviruses This is why theres no vaccine for the common cold and how this virus cropped up it mutated so it could infect humans from something else|0 How were tourists from Wuhan able to get here and travel around for who knows how long before going back to a hotel and feeling ill Or did they literally just arrive Which in some ways makes it worseThey either let people slip through undetected in the last week or two or they let people slip through in the past couple of days I cant tell which is worse|0 Woah I hope not|1 Fish antibiotics God damn it my best laid plan is foiled|1 I have a feeling youre an idiot who is contributing to the mass hysteria in the UK|0 Yes see if they do gift cards same kind of idea|1 People suck Wear what you want if you are comfortable wearing a mask wear one Why do strangers opinions factor into it|1 3 3 I dunno why but Ive been recently very fascinated by WW2 victory gardens Theyre a great example of how people have come together for a greater good during hard times httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiVictorygarden|1 Even if this were true you know that many would rather die quietly at home rather than pay for the hospital stay Problem solved|0 Everyone who is unionized doesnt seem to mind how Jimmy Hoffa helped out that cause Sure he was crooked but you cant deny that he did some good|1 I work as an engineer in a popular hotel in Ohio and no one has said anything about the virus Its pretty concerning considering its a damn hotel and people all over the world stay there every day|1 It wasnt just SA it was all central and north Texas when it hit That shit was so awful I was living in Austin and it was the one damn time I didnt panic until I realized I was about to hit E and couldnt find gas anywhere I had no idea it was fake either I just remember the panic happened so fast and nearly fucked me over Ive never pushed my tank so far until that week |0 Is this lawyer Chen gone missing |0 I cant go to hospital any time I want the waiting time is insane Ive been diagnosed kidney stone and its been 2 months and Im still waiting for cure Its winter here most of the time and Im afraid to go out in the evening there is no people on the most of the streets after 9 pm If you lived in any of China cities you will know what am talking about I need to think about how many tip I should give each time when I get service Need to spend a lot of time to report tax every year Cant those be automatically done Anyway theres still a lot of things I love in Canada though People are super nice The system is relatively fair for poor people Nice environment But I just cant understand how come everybody talk like there is no freedom in China|1 Haha nice to know I will make sure to buy gin although the tonic I believe is sold out atm|1 Hello thank you for making this Ive never used Reddit before this but in a desperate attempt to find some good news google led me right to this sub This situation has affected my mental health greatly Once the virus broke out in January on the news it gave me an anxiety attack and I lost my passion to do anything it even became a chore to eat Seeing Im not alone and finding good reassuring news on here helps Everyday I see more fear mongering and rumors and youre right this is a such a critical time for mental health|0 DidDid they make policy from World War Z|0 Terrible Thank you Although Im a little relieved it wasnt the high school student|1 Apparently it depends on the brand of the mask how high of a dose is and for how long and number of cycles if done right theres was negligible loss in filtration for at least 3 decontamination cycles httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4699414httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4699414|0 humans are also very poor at intuiting nonlinear let alone exponential growth|0 Awesome Sounds yummy|1 Wo wow wow hold on a moment Im on beta blockers PropranololIs that going to aggravate the virus|1 Yes because the virus gives a fuck about politics|0 Canadian currently living in SF our mayor just announced all nonessential businesses to be closed I hope Canada and selfishly at least Toronto my hometown follows suit|1 And later stages usually dont respond well to antibiotics|0 Yep sick or healthy stay away from people public spaces as much as possible Limit your exposure I do this every flu season Cuz i dont want the flu and i sure as hell dont want this virus So my flu season is now extended|0 Comrade what is problem|0 Please be civil Using insulting language towards other users may result in a ban|0 Oh god FMA I need to get into that one Im just starting One Piece|1 A lesson that most of humanity already knows very well|1 the panic is helping people stay at home lack of panic is what made people take stupid risks go partying and so on for weeksTheir manipulation has been dangerous and will make many people die and now is only annoyingFuck the media|0 Thats Terrifying Also the 23 number may be wrong or at least not as helpful as it seems It based on deathstotal infected by the virusSo the virus doubling its infection count every few days is throwing off the percentage pretty widely|0 Feel free to point out that there is vaccine for flu and yet over half a million people die each year globally|0 LOL I upvoted the OPs wholesome statement and this snarky comment as wellWe need inspiration and a sense of humor to survive whats about to come at us|1 Businesses need funding from the government to pay these people This can still get worse if we can bailout big corporations we can help our citizens Either this or freeze everyones monthly bills|0 I cant fully believe it very strange feeling I hope that humanity can learn something about thisVery concerned about the spreaders going outside the quarantine zone Madrid right now For having some vacations totally unacceptable and IMO punishable|0 Convenient how to make it easier to get home aligns so nicely with to increase revenue when nobody is going on vacation|1 CoronavirusNow on twitter was suspended Why|0 Yes Thank you so much|1 Also why would I go to the doctor when Im sick I know what their gonna say take some over the counter medicine and get some rest Why waste my time going to the doctor Now Im even less inclined to go to the hospital because I dont want to waste the doctors time with a manageable cold or flu especially risking getting the coronavirus from the hospital Drive thru testing would be nice to know if I should quarantine myself or not|0 Clearly its better for the US to have mass unemployment due to a public health emergency than try to use our wealth of resources to ensure we all get through this as unscathed as possible|1 Spaghetti is like one of my least favorites x I acknowledge Im abnormal though I appreciate its a classic just not my thingPersonally I love linguine bucatini tagliatelle pappardelle and campanelleIm not picky about most foods but for some reason I am about pasta|0 Ah ok thanks for the info|1 Unfortunately it asks for a registration to see the source Can you share it|0 I think Germany is letting the states handle it Bavaria for example has closed everything except banks grocery stores and pharmacies No curfew yet though|0 Job protected leave waiving the doctors note Thats what it says on the description anyways|1 Im not in Houston but yes that and constantly hitting refresh on Weather Underground In this case its coming to this subreddit fifty times a day sorting by new etc|1 No they did not all recover The video says 691875 recovered 184 were transferred|0 Loved that movie Agro Zombies are awesome|1 Stay home even if you are not sick You can be contagious long before you show symptoms|1 ACE inhibitors and ARBs increase ACE2 expression so effect will be opposite of smoking easier to get infected but less likely to have severe disease|0 OK Because every time I say mid Atlantic people look at me and they dont know what the hell Im talking about|0 Reading more articles cancelled due to coronavirus|0 Telling school children to stay 15 meters away from each other is like asking a child to not laugh at the sound of their own farts Good luck Australiasound the trumpets|1 I think its well past 2 million at this point|1 Im in Georgia but I feel like it is the same in most states sadly Areas of sustained transmission are getting more readily available testing I think but that is really a reactive rather than proactive response|1 This is kind of coulda woulda shoulda at this point Wed all better off if politicians listened to scientists more than money Meanwhile were left with attempts at damage control And in the US so far thats been so slow an exponential number of people now have their lives at risk Especially the elderly I vote we stop placing blame and work together to fix the problem|0 According to your link the specimen container should be labeled with the patients ID number Presumably its the same for all specimens from the same patientOn the other hand its very common for the labs and media to talk of number of tests That is the real bottleneck after all|1 you think thats the reason they want people to stop buying masks Can you actually read Dont buy masks because the people trying to save lives need them How irresponsible of you you should be ashamed|0 I mean arent those the people that you want to stop from reproducing let em leave just dont let them back into the country|0 I do and its A fuck me right|0 Its an awful situation no doubt about it but the world isnt going to spiral into chaos and collapse Its not that fragile|0 They all have been tested negative BFMTV httpswwwbfmtvcomsantecoronaviruslestestssurlavingtainederapatriesquipresentaientdessymptomessontnegatifs1851256htmlThis is winter common cold is common|0 Theres a very good possibility that it will happen hereOverwhelmed healthcare is the reason why the quarantine measures were put into place in Italy and ChinaWe need to take a proactive approach to limit spread before it gets to that point|1 I just cancelled my birthday trip to Palm Springs Cant tell if Im leaning into the hysteria or ahead of the curve yet Thankfully it was only a 200 flight so nothing too dramatic still sucks though|0 All shops and restaurants around my compound except convenience stores and supermarkets are shutdown I think they cant fulfil the new hygiene requirements or dont have workers that do but you may also be right its simply all illegal businesses is shutdown same as many migrant workers have basically been staying illegally and are not being let back in explaining why many basic tasks remain unfinished nowAbout the many people in the streets at least in the daytime I worry the blaring news of no new cases and everything under control creates a false sense of security and complacency They certainly know why they keep shutting temples and parks any green space I went to you see plenty of people taking their mask down for a jog or a smoke or just for a phone call|0 Went to my local sushi place today NY Saw the sushi chef wearing a mask and struggling to hold in coughs The place has the best sushi Ive ever had so I thought fuck it If I get Corona at least it will be early in Sometimes you gotta take chances in lifeAll honestly probably just a cold or flu though the owner is seriously into customer service so I doubt hed let an employee come from Wuhan vacation and work sick|0 Por que no los dos|0 It is not a wealthier vs less wealthier or Partisan disease and argument I am making The huge gap between wealthy working class rich and the new upper crust 1 is staggering and the 1 own WashingtonAre they attempting to weed us out Was this a complete gaffe and deadly decisions were made because winning an upcoming election was placed before curbing this pandemicThe national addresses and worldwide addresses the performance of our current presidency has made a mockery of the USA We look weak and vulnerable and that is dangerous It is dangerous and nuts for a president to blame its own citizens for the virus making it a Partisan Pandemic and stating on live tv as 1000s are dying worldwide that the virus is a Democratic HoaxThank god it isnt the polio virus or a plague with this administration in control of the situation|0 Yea Im not sure what they expect when they lie to the public Do they not know they can be fact checked I feel people would have more respect if they just asked people not to buy mask for the doctors instead of using a lie to dissuade a KNOWN public health tactic|1 Its so hilarious to me that Starbucks has claimed for so long to be so progressive yet theyve always acted like the epitome of the type of businesses they claim to be fighting against|1 Starbucks also offers emergency pay or at least they did when I worked there 56 years ago They should close|0 The problem if this thing can be airborne for 3 hours you need 9395 immune for heard immunity to work|0 All assuming that youre positive does is cover up the fact that we have way more than the confirmed cases suggested by the cdc|1 would you trade chilling out for being able to do everything you want with your body i bet not fucker|1 Donating and expecting praise by telling everyone about itis thetefore directly tied to the you have to give Donate anomymously or stop being a braggart|1 What The Fuck20 hospitalization rateThats 20x the fluAnd 14 of those will die wo treatment A death rate 7x to 34x the fluWe are running out of beds we have far too few N95 masks and not nearly enough doctors and nurses to lose for a month even if they were back to 100 and suffered no deaths upon exposure which is absurd as they think that initial viral load exposure is a big deal when it comes to survival|0 Okay you lost all credibility when you say it isnt that hard Its really fucking hardLets look at the wiki and check him out English degree Awesome Sound like you know a ton of how to manage hundreds of thousands of medical staff county and state public health offices and handle an international effortI wonder if hes even managed something larger than a Dairy Queen|1 I hope this makes the industry fall so many better ways of spending vacation|1 Now were above 5000 and more than 300 deaths All the country has closed everything except pharmacies and supermarkets and we have to stay in home They say we havent passed the worst yet Italy has 18000 now Its crazy surreal|1 Ive been hearing that message about 800 times a day thanks|1 If the virus cant travel through the air and is indeed bound to droplets surfaces then good surface and hand hygiene and reasonable social distancing ought to greatly disrupt its transmission This is especially true if people do this before any significant outbreak arrives I would think as these measures would also help to limit the exposure dose that people got This paperhttpsposeidon01ssrncomdeliveryphpID171094066115021088113121102004124096025047071016027028067089065098013021005029075102030099002020054112125066118070095118111117038073039053068114003085068116079114070046062067003103093030025007023069029002085124094120085114029074092017027083078003118082EXTpdf suggests that hygiene and social distancing could limit dosage and by extension severity of symptoms|1 oh cool didnt know that|1 Id like to speak with the manager This is not the ride I was promised Karen|1 Good Hope theres a chain reaction|1 Westchester people need to stop with the dinner parties|1 Yep I am in the south and I would say 70 of people think the entire thing is a hoax or fake and are actually going out more to eat and to the movies I have never seen anything close to it|0 yeah ive just seen that It was looking quite hopeful as a useful source till then|1 Ok boomer|1 Technically we are If aliens invade earth and use us like we use cows are they the baddies|1 My words came off the wrong way Imo were kinda fucked But the school system doesnt care Thats what I was trying to say P|0 Yeah I get it But even ramp up of production means nothing when they are laying off thousands in logistics Bottleneck for distribution People get hungry and morals become less of a concern|1 Can we please get this going on twitter wheresmymask|1 My husband loves when he gets to work from home and he gets way more done People are constantly bothering him in the office and its harder for him to get back on task with all the interruptions Meetings are one of the biggest time wasters There was a company that had excessively long meetings so the boss took all the chairs out of the conference room Low and behold meetings were cut down to no more than 1520 minutes lol|0 Your comment prompted me to quickly check our conditions for instituting martial law and I dont think we could over this Theres no legal way to quarantine a whole city Persons may be forcibly put under quarantine if a judge orders it but not areasIMO western democracies will not be able to react in nearly the same way to this as the totalitarian state There will be no lockdowns|0 A lot of people who spout stuff like shit government or suffering when describing China have probably never actually lived in or even visited China before This is the thing most people on reddit dont get The average standard of living in China has risen so much over the last 40 years the simple fact is Chinese people are so much infinitely better off now than what they were before So most of them are really going to be that keen on disrupting their now pretty good standard of livingChinese people have a very long history of toppling governments but its always on the back of starvation and poverty|0 This depends on the quantum efficiency of the fluorescent dye photons in vs photons out and the sensitivity of the detectorSingle fluorescent molecules can be detected in ideal conditions but biological media is more difficult|0 Its happening the virus is starting to take if I know this cus Ive played plague Inc|1 Oh ya its the federal governments job to provide the tests to commercial labs to ensure testing The whole point is that the government Is Not Testing Try to keep up|1 Pffft Hockey players barely leave games over broken bones or wideopen lacerations The season must go onPenguins v Blue Jackets game already declared wont have fans in arena I wonder if theyre going to try to push through the season with that policy for as long as they can|0 BAC would have to be above 60 percent to sterilize germs Hopefully they have more than one glass |1 Yeah but airlines were significantly hit after 911 and they didnt go bankrupt|1 I would have agreed with you but the germany case guy who was able to infect 3 his coworker within one day the Japanese bus driver too I just feel like once it starts spreading in other countries we will see how fast it really spreads In my opinion the Chinese are playing catch up and if you die and they didnt test you then you die of severe pneumonia|0 Why does it seem like every time someone is released from quarantine the first thing they do is beeline to the most populous spot they can go|1 This is so cool Im very happy to be participating Im currently rank 51 or so on the team and I will be adding more computers in the near future|1 Nobody is surprised It was an impossible number to begin with|1 So this is wrongNot sure if you meant it on purpose but it seems you counted all of Wuhan in your calculation which includes all of the sub provinces which are very sparsely populated and not a fair comparisonWuhan population including sub province 11000000Wuhan population only urban 8900000Wuhan size including sub province 3279sq milesWuhan size only urban 590sq milesSo for the sub province you are looking at 3354per square mile but for the urban area your looking at a jaw dropping 15084per square mileSo you have 34 of the Wuhan population living in 16th of the land mass Not to mention Seattle only has a population of 700000 Not even a tenth of Wuhan urbanMath from here httpsenwikipediaorgwikiWuhan|0 8000 copay for ER care here all test costs charged to my empty pocket and no coverage for hospitalization Thanks trump|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 That sounds very likely I dont mean every country is trying to downplay the thing and hiding facts to their populations But there is a lot of chance IMO that at least one of them is doing so Pure speculationsThere are also situations where getting people panicked pissed off is the worst thing that could happen to everyoneI can relate to that through one of my previous job wich consisted of being the guy you talk to when you just had an accident with your car or an engine breakdown and you call your insuranceassistance providerYou never know how people are going to react Some handle it well even when their car got hit by another one and they are lucky to be alive Some others are going to freak out completly for the tiniest problems like a battery problemTLDR I m also glad they governments dont spread panic because some people act VERY irrationally when they are panicked And imo it could be even a worse situation that way Also httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvW4tVH7BPbQhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvW4tVH7BPbQ|0 Unlike you Im really smart great ivy education and work in a mid 6 fig job a couple years after gradIm freaking out make of that what you will|1 I bet Xi will as well|1 What if the teachers and support staff at schools get sick|0 If old people die the housing prices will collapse|0 Dangit Harambe Your curse was too strong|0 I could actually see this as well Must be a nightmare trying to negotiate with an unstable adult baby|0 Cuz its just a serious flu Dont need to be too concerned|0 Thank you I have never seen my countrys bad situation in such a positive way|1 Now imagine this is probably happening everywhere except that most govts are too incompetent to properly report on this virus|0 They are doing this to build up herd immunity some of you will die but its a sacrifice Im willing to make Id you are vunerable stay isolated its probably better in the long term|0 If a landlord gets a break on mortgage payments its easier for them to give a break to the tenant renting the propertyOf course thats not guaranteed but itll help|1 The guy who wrote it seems to have retweeted a lot of informed COVID19 articles around that time too Very oddhttpstwittercomdverganoThe article itself is not as bad as the headline Oftentimes the headline is written by someone besides the author I suspect that is the case here|1 So far but without herd immunity if this is as transmissible as some think we could be looking at something 10x worse or more than the seasonal flu if it becomes widespreadBasically I think its little early to just say nothing to see here what about the flu when this virus has literally only existed for two months From the numbers we have this virus would be much worse if it could infect as many as the flu and R0 value is already higherBut Admittedly we cant know until we know I and hope this is just another quick epidemic but many experts are saying spread is inevitable at the moment|0 Whats it going to take to get Trump to resign|0 He didnt die from the virus|1 Well too bad for the 20 hey|0 Dont wallow in the news so thoroughly that you let fear control your life Buy your relaxation therapeutics NOW Buy as much as you can manage|1 Isnt theology the study of God or something I think you meant to say philosophy|1 Probably by not being a POS who intentionally infects people they disagree with It would be very easy to prevent doing this|1 They may drink a larger volume but they wont be paying pub prices so sales will definitely go down even if the actual volume drank increases a bit|1 Other countries didnt retrieve their citizens during Maos antics That seems insane to me What about during the starving times|0 I dont want to be taken seriously by a fucking idiot|0 Wales here had a long chat to my kids school they have no clue and havent heard anything about them closing they were thinking Easter holidays would be enough|1 Im guessing you cant easily mix patients who need a respirator for other ailments and infectious corona virus patients though so the real question is how many quarantined respirators are available this will be a much lower number|0 Just In Time supply chains lets companies keep just enough physical stock on hand to cover their immediate needs which helps cut down on overhead costs for warehousing and storage of supplies Works fine as long as there are no major disruptions to the supply chain but in a crisis situation can leave you short stocked of essential goods|0 ive only ever heard about them here Everyone I know is taking it seriously|0 I was replying to that comment not the entire reddit so I used a term that heshe knows I dont see any problem here That comment wasnt meant for anyone else so youre just an asshole|1 Thanks for the heads up Im following it super closely myself All schools are closed but its unclear whether that includes final year students like myself because those classes seems to be considered too important to cancel probably because of rescheduling difficulties etc which is understandable It seems likely my classes will still continue but Im keeping my fingers crossed Will be watching the press conference at 1700 and update my original comment if schools are closed entirely|1 Thank you|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a 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you have any questions or concerns|0 Wouldnt want to upset small government people by helping people breath Theyd be all like States ventilators|1 I wouldnt doubt for a second that theres people who believe shit like this Remember when ppl were going on about how only asians are affected|0 Anyone else just waiting for the first prominent American politician to test positive Eerily quiet on that front so far|1 Ardene is closing tomorrow too Only paying us for our scheduled shifts for this week and next week we are getting instructions on getting EI terrible just terrible|0 WA is doing better than most states Just based on the numbers coming out of NY I think they are doing more Well have to see since WA hasnt released numbers for today but NY has almost as many confirmed cases today 737 then the current total for WA 908|1 Last person out please shit the lights off|0 Then the fuck did they announce that was the plan on ThursdayThey didnt He said the plan was to flatten the curve He even got a powerpoint up to show what flattening the curve looks like Boris called it flattening the sombrero I think Robert Peston is the originator of the herd immunity hysteria|0 in italy if you die WITH coronavirus you are added to the deaths thats not how germany is counting cases tho|0 People there die from starvation|0 Trump was called out on his shit on multiple threads here too|0 would the median be lower for most of the population The study was only tracking inpatient|0 Same here People in my life are genuinely mad at me for prepping and isolating|0 You guys still have the best of dark and dry humour though|1 They all think everyone besides them is just so damn naive and that their life experience can sniff out an overreaction better than us impressionable young people Nevermind actual ages of course this is clearly a superiority complex of sorts or the boomer mindsetWhat these hardheaded people fail to grasp is that effective measures will always feel like an overreaction because it staves off the tragedy Whereas a logical person might look back and say I wonder what that coronavirus pandemic would have been like if we hadnt taken all those measures these people think eh that coronavirus wasnt anything like the plague all those measures were utterly ridiculous and uselessSo essentially all their life experiece is a perception that nothing really bad has ever happened and we always overreact lending not a sliver of thought that maybe the interventions were effective|1 Now feeling the difference between anticipating this will all happen and it actually happening Fuckity fuck|0 why would you need moreThis is what we call rationing AKA making sure everyone gets some or the largest amount people get some|1 yeah lets hope my friend who was at the game with me aso got tested today in the morning and 5 hours later they called him with negative results still waiting|1 House has passed a bill for this 14 days sick leave and then expanded unemployment eligibility Waiting in senate so still not completely safe Meanwhile Pelosi is working on third emergency bills we speak Oh and if you get out and vote for Bernien in the primary we could have Bernie by January and per his statements in the debate tonight he will protect people|0 Thank you for providing me with a legitimate counter to my ideaIm talking about people who would be admitted to the hospital Mild cases shouldnt need it For cases going into the hospital however they are probably going to survive but with severe possibly permanent lung damage but most likely with the drugs there is a strong possibility that they are out of the hospital sooner healthier with far less damage and a much faster full recovery time Were not talking about safety testing Thats been done for both drugs already This test were waiting on is just effectiveness Wheres the morality when the FDA denies access to a drug because it fails efficacy testing Sure deny drugs that fail safety testing although the FDA screwed that uo tooWhen were talking about a life saving drug the FDA might as well come and choke the patients to death themselves They have done this fairly often with drugs that were approved in other medical approval systems The results are millions of people dead needless toA mild example is novamin It too passed safety but not effectiveness testing Cant get it in the US I have to buy my toothpaste outside America because it was approved in otherSo its pretty clear that the moral argument is on my side I agree with safety testing but not barring usage forefficacy testing It has resulted in millions of preventable deaths in Americans throughout the FDAs existence At the very least if its been approved for use in another country I should have the choice to use the treatment or not|0 to expand on that 70 alcohol to 30 water is best the water helps to slow evaporation and helps the alcohol penetrate into infected cells 021 sodium hypochlorite found in bleach has worked on other coronaviruses most household bleach has around 36 by volumelots of conflicting amounts of time to leave these on with longer time and weaker concentrates like 01 for 5 minsso hand washing alcohol 7030 also use moisturiser as alcohol will dry out skintake good care of your handsmake sure to clean nails or cut them offand bleach for surfaces|1 Id love to know your definition of Latin America|1 That website is run by Michel Chossudovsky httpsenwikipediaorgwikiMichelChossudovsky a noted conspiracy theorist Good try though|0 I believe the main goal is to preserve the world economy I fear that the lack of meaningful countermeasures by most countries to stop the virus spread may hurt it more than a month or two of mass quarantines and travel bans|0 better than nothing Test carried out in HK shows that Kitchen towel have around 80 of protection|1 Cannt be said better|1 I dont want to contact the news and get my mom firedOkbut realize you are putting lives at risk with that decision|0 Italy no longer has the capacity for the infected The world is not ready for Coronavirus and can have fatal consequences There are no hospital beds available and there are not enough doctors or nurses |0 what that makes no sense improperly will people wear it around their testicles it is just an excuse because the real reason is the vast majority of masks were produced in China the supply is low and medical staff need them police need them army needs them If they told every citizen to get a mask now or you might die it would cause extreme panic|0 numbers dont matter if the hospitals are not being overrun by the sick and the dyingnumbers matter especially the asymptomatic carrier Those number can make hospitals overrun in mere days and it makes studying the characteristic of virus harder|0 What a way to find out your wife cheated on you|0 Exactly In Houston weve had two 500 year flood events in the last 20 years and more than 4 100 year flood events Clearly these stats need to be adjusted|1 Stat is probably a bit misleading I mean for example Japan has an aged population so more need|0 Oh no That could cause problems|0 We cant rely on Chinas figures for the death toll They built more hospitals to cope with the surge sent more medical staff and have more PPE and machines like ECMO and ventilators Apparently there were 50 ECMO machines per hospital They have had experience with SARS Any country with experience of SARS has acted fast had the tech like South Korea has for testing and put in aggressive monitoring of quarantine In the West we have no experience of SARS There is no huge community response to quarantine as in we dont wanna We have less PPE and machines than we need and we dont have the ability to just build hospitals in 10 days to cope with the surge Im not saying that China didnt lie but there must be something to say for the extra equipment and experience they have|0 Right Im pretty sure the biggest difference was the capture in time part If you read this research they actually first estimate that 30 of the people that are currently asymptomatic will remain asymptomatic Note that if you take 30 of the around 50 that are currently asymptomatic you get 3515 or really close to the number given here|1 This isnt a new virus Its been around for a month and a halfThanks for making me laugh|1 I dont care at this point hes more helpful with a small youtube channel then all these elite bozos Anything more added to his contributions is an even bigger win for humanity|1 People all over Twitter saying oh but why toilet roll lol are annoying me It seems obvious to me its a product most of us need its not usually substituted for anything else in the West and we go through it relatively quickly Its an obvious candidate for empty shelves when this kind of thing happens|0 No known cases where we are as of yet canada east coast province but we are closing everything and distancing now Im finding it hard with my mother 84 and no chronic conditions She lives with us which helps but she does get stir crazy in the house and thinks im overreacting Thankfully she doesnt reallt drive on her own anymore so i have to take her anywhere I wish theyd cancel church as thats the biggest gathering we go to less than 100 though Ive read other posts from ppl having the same issues with seniors in their lives They can be incredibly stubborn|0 The Chinese arent releasing their total numbers because they have no idea themselves and they freely admit that It was strongly suspected that they were withholding information early on but as time has gone on and the WHO was given access their number havent changed much and have coincided within reason of what were seeing outside of ChinaThe 1427 day incubation is extremely misleading They had exactly 1 person out of a 1100 person case study go over 14 days and that person was considered a reinfectioncontamination The overwhelming majority of cases are symptomatic within 4 days the median is 3 and patients going beyond 12 are rare Regardless DEATHS dont take 27 days so there is a natural lag for the recovered to catch up|0 community transmission is currently only affecting certain areas of the US The rest of the US is still primarily seeing cases from close contact However the report from Pences team today suggested that it will start to transmit in the community outside of areas like NJ NY CA WA that are seeing community transmission But the community transmission phase of this virus is still in its infancy but rapidly growing so there is still time to at least slow the spread to other areas this is what is referred to as flattening the curve|1 There are other countries who have acted more promptly having more success For instance SK and Singapore Furthermore that is just the Drs office near you that is not an accurate portrayal around the US or what doctors and nurses are reporting from inside their hospitals And it has been downplayed a lot Just look at all the people saying its a flulike virus after youve just read this account I agree that there is no magic cure to this however there also isnt any reason for people to constantly be shaming people who wear masks or take this seriously as is happening in my country You are right that 80 of people have mild symptoms but those 80 of people also spread the virus to the other 20 who arent so lucky In the next few days to weeks people wont be more at risk from the flu as Covid has a much higher infection rate and more severe symptoms and fatality ratesWe need to stop looking at this issue from a purely individualistic point of view|0 Its incredible they cant use common sense If someone is sick with Corona they can spread it to anyone else regardless of race nationality or creed spread it indiscriminately You dont have to have had to go to an infected area just takes an infected person to come to you and infect you|0 Im not Swiss but live in Switzerland they just announced schools will be closed for 4 weeks I hope the situation isnt as bad here|1 That definitely varies among the floorunit as well as facilities Either way your help is greatly appreciated and not often thanked so thank you|1 Lmao|1 That is not the right way to understand life expectancy Lower LE not neccessarily means lesser aging problem As far as I know the lower LE in the US mainly comes from a relatively high death rate for 1020s young people|0 Maybe for stuff like toilet roll stop stocking the big multi packs Only offer 6 roll packs and limit to one per customer|1 We LOVE capitalism Until we dont|1 Honest question Arent most autocracies run by billionaires|1 The 1 guy wouldnt shake He elbow bumped Trump got caught off guard and said I like that|1 You would also have damaged lungs for life NO thanks That would pay maybe 4 months of my rent I am not in a huge city rent in a nice 2 bed still possible for 800 US|0 thank you comrade i am relax and happynowgetinyourfuckingapartment|1 bro you sound incredibly dense and probably a bit slow im not saying that to be rude but what youre saying given the context comes off as incredibly immatureyou can do what you want just remember that you will need to grow up one day|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I think you need a little more than a verbal yes but well see I bet theyll slither out of this commitment somehow|1 uLordHaragnokThere is no paranoid or not paranoid when it comes to this crisis You have a normal response to the information thats been given But the way others handle it by switching off not worrying about it might be an entirely normal response for them Everyone is differentThe important thing is having coping methods to deal with anxiety|0 I share your concern I really do But theres an explanation for not closing all schools right away You dont have to accept it But you might consider this and understand that it does factor into the decision making process even if you disagree with the result When you close schools in areas too early you run the risk of compliance fatigue People stop being agreeable to compliance with the prevention measures For example if you close a school in an area with zero cases out of an abundance of caution Say the school closes for 23 weeks and still no cases People will start screaming about why the school is closed Theyll start demanding that it reopen because the burden on parents keeping their kids out of school is getting to great for nothing With no cases in the area their employers arent keeping them home but the kids are home and this causes problems So they start demanding that schools reopen and maybe just in time for the virus to hit their area I understand the logic that says If we just close all the schools then it wont spread and will go away If we wait it will spread But it does amount to a hail mary of sorts Also it might not be true The virus might still spread because school isnt the only place its spreading Ideally you want to close schools when that closure has the maximum impact on containing community transmission and during a time when the people are completely on board with compliance because they can tangibly see that theres a threat Just something to consider when you form your opinion on how and when school closings should happen and understand why officials might make the decisions they do|0 If masks dont work then why do medical professionals include them in their PPE Sure the n95 mask is better than the surgical mask but doesnt a surgical mask protect against sprayed droplets If it is changed frequently to prevent moisture buildup how is it not helpfulI really feel like public health professionals are lying to us whether they know it or not It doesnt do much to build up trust|1 Viruses in real world mutate at random It may or may not mutate quickly Remmeber the second wave of Swine Flu where it mutated to be more deadly very quickly|0 I have two freezers full of food and a couple weeks worth of MREs that should be enough for most emergencies|1 I strongly suspect the death rate on the ship is so high because they were packed in like sardines and therefore got an extremely high viral load initially ItsDoes the initial viral load matter that much In my naive understanding I assumed virus replicated in an exponential manner until the immune response kicks inAnyhow I do hope your conjecture is correct I guess we will see|1 This is fake news idiots|0 I didnt check United but Delta flights from China to Detroit are all sold out Completely full|0 A bright idea how about lets do this forever|1 Think again We rank nowhere near the top of the world in all the major health benchmarks and Trump cut funding to the CDC Pandemic response program Its not going to be nearly as smooth as you think|0 I hope everyone does alright getting rescued but man thats to be expected when you put a building together in 7 days or whatever it was|1 Dawg what How does a failed presidential bid 4 years ago have anything to do with his current situation|0 I stand corrected Thank you for the clarification|1 What about the Bud Light virus It forces the body to only be capable of processing Bud Light luckily water is an adequate substitute|1 This would be an absolute nightmare for Irelands hospitals Every year its a disaster at hospitals simply from seasonal influenza people waiting on trolleys in hallways no beds available for weeksI cannot imagine what a mess it will be if this takes hold My brother is a paramedic out of Limerick and the normal yearly madness is way more than they can handle already|0 Right The outrage was so ridiculous Money is the only thing that talks in this country|0 no lol which is why I am saying when I am close there wont be one lol|1 Luckily the virus generally requires no treatment|1 Be kinda ironic as most Republican politicians are old if they all well died|0 At anytime between 2008 and 2011 were you able to go to the bank and withdraw money These bailouts kept liquidity in the banks that allowed American people to not lose everything they had in it Same with the autobail outs it kept 100000 manufacturing jobs alive till the recession ended And everything was paid back with interest in the end Your libertarian economics dont work Bernanke and the Feds kept everyone alive only to be shit on you idiots years later|1 You make a lot of good points that I agree with wholeheartedly although contained in an impenetrable iceberg of a paragraph|1 My whole point is he should have reported to local health department that his family just came back from Wuhan Instead of doing so he just walked around going to banks pharmacies Its ok to leave Wuhan but for the safety of others should isolate for 14 days first Also when you are isolated at home after reported yourself food will be delivered to you for free everyday thats Beijings policy|1 I use AOL to make jokes about how bad corporate greed is|0 I wish we would start taking appropriate measures in the US|1 Ill send an email expressing my concern It will be most effective from is constituents though saying that if measures arent taken to protect our people then I will turn my support towards a candidate who will|1 Its called being compassionate Grow up|1 I see that the 50 Cent Army has found your commentReminder This virus is the result of the CCP not taking appropriate actions following the SARS outbreak over a decade ago and a result of them HIDING THE VIRUS for as long as they possibly could|0 Their journalists at Fox and CNN are basically blogger lever average folks They have no idea what theyre reporting on All their materials read like a soccer moms hot take on a subject|1 Actually she posted later that day that she would have chicken noodle soup and vegetable soup for take out for seniors as well|1 The CDC and others are calling them NonPharmaceutical Interventions Basically shorthand for we dont have a cure so well use every other strategy available to us So this includes lots of social distancing measures the most extreme would be quarantines and lockdowns but lots of others like working remotely school closure cancellations of large public events and others as well as educational Also includes a huge range of disinfecting measures from good ole bleach to UVC light and others and then protective gear designed to control spread of infection The CDC in case youre in the US talks about these in detail but its covered in the Pandemic plans of many different countries Heres a quote from CDCs excellent briefing on the 26th httpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0225cdctelebriefingcovid19htmlhttpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0225cdctelebriefingcovid19html in case its helpfulBased on what is known now we would implement these NPI measures in a very aggressive proactive way as he have been doing with our containment efforts There are three categories of NPIs Personal NPIs which include personal protective measures you can take every day and personal protective measures reserved for pandemics Community NPIs which include social distancing measures designed to keep people who are sick away from others And school closures and dismissals And environmental NPIs which includes surface cleaning measures NPIs routinely recommended for prevention of respiratory virus transmission include everyday personal protective measures These are preventive measures we recommend during influenza season These NPIs are recommended during a pandemic regardless of the severity level of the respiratory illness Personal protective measures reserved for pandemics include voluntary home quarantine of household members who have been exposed to someone they live with who is sick Now Id like to talk through some examples of what community NPIs look like These are practical measures that can help limit exposure by reducing exposure in community settings Students in smaller groups or in a severe pandemic closing schools and using internetbased teleschooling to continue education For adults businesses can replace inperson meetings with video or telephone conferences and increase teleworking options On a larger scale communities may need to modify postpone or cancel mass gatherings Looking at how to increase telehealth services and delaying elective surgery The implementation of environmental NPIs would require everyone to consistently clean frequently touched surfaces and objects at home at school at work and at large gatherings Local communities will need to look at which NPIs to implement and when based on how transmission and disease is and what can be done locally This will require flexibility and adaptations as disease progresses and new information becomes available Some of these measures are better than none But the maximum benefit occurs when the elements are layered upon each other Some community level interventions that may be most effective in reducing the spread of a new virus like school closures are also the most likely to be associated with unwanted consequences and further disruptions Secondary consequences of some of these measures might include missed work and loss of income I understand this whole situation may seem overwhelming and that disruption to everyday life may be severe But these are things that people need to start thinking about now |1 As I said before a case could be made that he needed to hand over to Pence That is certainly not what Trump himself wants to doSo I imagine this charade to go on for some time|1 China What do you want to bet|1 The CFR based on confirmed tests is borderline meaningless now as there are so many asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic carriers who make up the bulk of the C19 carriers who are not going to be tested because it is needless to do so in the extreme circumstances|0 To be fair suspending travel from other countrys is kind of Israels jam|1 Disney is greedy and stupid I get thatHowever all those people out there packed together are just as badBoth parties are selfish and irresponsible|0 In most of those movies theres a sense of urgency from government with scientist playing some role instructing people while military gets sent to the streetsIm watching this from Europe As a scifi devotee the only movie I can think of that depicts whats going on is Idiocracy|1 Also from ND people are dumb af here I left work Target today and the store was half full of old people And this is in the town with supposedly one two of the cases|0 Yes it is per day starting with situation report 1 on 21 January 2020 Outside of China there is only 1 death reported as of 9 February|0 Because letting some people die is cheaper than trying to protect everyone In the longer term a smaller population costs lessSorry if this sounds flippant but Im very frustrated with our leaders right now The governments attitude to NHS and other public services has remained consistent for some years Theyll always choose the option thats most likely to bring the NHS to its knees Thats their way of persuading us it should be privatised Current policy is disappointing but not at all surprising|0 When antibody tests roll out will they be sensitive enough to know if people have had the virusYes that is literally all an antibody test does It tests for the presence of antibodies All that tells you is that at some point the virus has been in your body It doesnt tell you how recently or whether youve already beaten it|0 Its a nice diverse committee though That is what matters s|1 Well that was an eye opening read|1 Correction this isnt crashing stock because the market is still speculatingWere still kind of in the stage of determination to truly give confirmation whether this is a short term set back or a more permanent reality However some companies are doing buy backs which some analysts say is to cover up share loss|1 Wait Washington didnt get the memo I thought we were just sweeping it all under the rug You cant test positive if the tests are not available to take|0 Uhh no testing is still vital to provide data to experts to see how quickly it is spreading in what areas the spikes are occurring at South Korea has fucking drive through tests They are doing great at the response Same with Vietnam and Singapore Our response has been an epic shit show|1 Sorry I just saw Contagion last night and it skewed my reality but yeah I think youre right|1 Proactive isnt exactly how I would describe the USA with this But its good news|1 Take the sequence RSYLTPGDSSSG which they argue is similar to RTYLFNETRGNSSSG in HIV gp120 A simple BLAST search of RSYLTPGDSSSG will show a 100 identical sequence found in Bat coronavirus spike protein But they left that part out|0 My logic is best|1 True enough|1 makes perfect sense our recent outbreak are importations from italyin edinburgh two siblings a private school are suspected after their father came down with it skiing holiday in italy|1 Poor toothpick|0 Thank you|1 There will be more chances when the time is right Just hunker down and stay safe|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 likely Most definitely is the real answer unless there is some insurance policy that covers pandemics|1 a 1020 hospitalization rate no other country can manage Not even 5 I mean I DO hope you are right and this is just an overblown flu but its not likely at this point|0 Female Millennial here with 3 kids and a baby due any day now Im working fulltime in a call center of 50 people Im imploring my boomer parents to stay inside and stop going out but theyre stubborn AF So yeah your statement is accurate I will say that my company is going super aggressive on cleaning everything in the call center twice a day with heavy duty stuff I hope it makes the difference|1 I cant help but think its good news for tech companies Since social contact will be reduced digital platforms will be used much more than normal VR could become very popular as a result Simulated social interaction with no chance of catching any infection|1 rich people get the tests first this is capitalism|1 This statistic is a bit more useful regarding the countries represented httpswwwstatistacomchart21105numberofcriticalcarebedsper100000inhabitants|1 I like this guy|1 Very naive to think anywhere in the world people is more important than money|0 Im so sorry I wish you and your sister the best|1 Source Know a few people who are who I wouldnt mind scaring|1 Elderly locked at home will likely pay for meal delivery Start the business or look for delivery jobs at restaurants and grocers|0 Fuck the Federal GovernmentFuck the CDCFuck the FDAThose organizations are getting Americans killedWe need State governments to rise up show some back bone and start testing|0 For isolation Not treatment Which is borne out by the fact that mild cases are resolving at home all over the worldBeing in the hospital and requiring hospitalization are two very different things Most of the people classed as severe wouldnt even need intervention with the definition provided by China much less mildmoderateIn colloquial termsMildshould be fine Keep him away from people hes contagiousSevereshould probably keep an eye on that Might need oxygen or analgesics Monitor for progressionCriticaloh shit|0 If thats the case you call back and when they ask if he has come in contact with someone you say Yes Yes he did And if his breathing worsens take him to the Emergency Room Assholes Not you them|0 I dont think its the parents of the kids who only eat at school who are worried People are not saying if the schools are closed MY kids wont eat properly they are referring to the kids in general The parents in these circumstances are very likely to be negligent often addicts who probably shouldnt have kids but they do and teachers and social workers are worried about what will happen to these vulnerable kids if the schools have to close|0 Suppose there are people in my town infected and I NEED to leave home What is the proper procedure What kind of masks and other protections should I wear What to do when I come back home How I safely remove my clothing|0 thanks for sources|1 So if I want to be safe I should move to Wuhan|1 Im in Oklahoma we have at last check 8 confirmed cases First one here I heard of was in Tulsa with someone returning from Italy People are still saying its a bug like its just a cold or flu This is just a bug the same way Spanish Influenza was just the flu or the way salmonella trichnossis and ecoli are just food poisoning|0 I dare say its apparent theres no stopping this now China knew in early January how serious this is and instead of preventing global spread tried to cover it up 2020 looks like a shit showEdit CCP sock puppets gonna downvote keep it coming|0 Its nothing to worry about its just Olympic FeverhttpsyoutubeXFoH8CuQBT4|1 It was some italian website Cant find it now Maybe any italians here to help|1 Yeah You are right this was 30 years ago though and I was just a gift shop stocker person|1 Update still at home Using shallow breathing because it hurts too much to take a deep breath Still no testhttpsmobiletwittercommisssarahjevostatus1237436999520399362|0 Sounds like more than just 294 bodies to me|1 I love seeing explanations like this even though I hated organic chemistry in college lol|1 This virus isnt prejudice about social class|1 This the only way to make the exponential curve into an S curve There is also the natural way wait until enough people have been infected and then immunity of the recovered people will reduce the growth just pray the mortality is not too badbut in all likelihood it will mutate and you will get something like the flu that makes the rounds regularly|1 Honestly the American frontiersman mentality of youre on your ownthe government isnt here to save you really means the chickens come home to roost in times like this Community health is only as strong as its weakest link People wanted to pay less taxes and shrink government services and the safety net and this is the consequence We force people to choose between povertyjob loss vs infecting others|1 yes|1 SF quarantined person here Live on a busy street and have seen many more police cars than normal SF basically said the first step would be to educate folks that they need to close Next step would be to arrest them People seem to be paying attention its dead outside|0 Yeah Im 65 and can stay home indefinitely with my supplies and cooking skills The problem is those living hand to mouth with a days worth of food at home They wont be staying home|0 You actually backed up that ridiculous sounding claim Wow|1 Do you think municipal water supplies are going to be shut off I cant believe people actually buy bottled water how irresponsible and wasteful|0 Repeat exposure has killed multiple Wuhan medical staff in their 20s and 30s|0 Yes you are hopeless You completely missed the point of the entire thread|0 dont let Trump know about that Imagine how easy it would be to win reelection if California stopped existing|1 exactly its not well classdivided data|0 Thank you This is what Ive been trying to say|1 Is that more than you get on a usual trip and is that a lotPretty scummy to have a brave the virus bonus going on|1 This is the correct answer and also why the flu and colds are not as contagious in tropical zonesand also why they are seasonal and why this outbreak will dramatically decrease this summer|0 That sucks I hope you are able to have the surgery as scheduled|1 well everybodys going to catch it Well yeah if everybody does nothing|1 Jackie Chen wtf meme|0 but we can limit our physical interactions to the bare minimum and hopeI guess thats what I mean with Asian style Farmers need to farm We can force everyone to use food delivering services itworkers can work from home gatherings with over 30 people is forbidden Schools can teach by using distance education close parks toothpick on elevator buttons and so on|0 I have been repeating this on this sub and others often China is fucked While Western countries with open media and less dense populations air quality may also factor will most likely be fine China and perhaps India are going to be decimated Maybe literally But there is such a strong anti fear mongering narrative by the general userbase it seems like mass delution They dont look into the situation or the many personal accounts at all but are confident in saying people like me are as crazy as those claiming this virus was created in a lab by the Chinese and all that other stupid schizophrenic conspiratorial shit But Chineese are being arrested for filming hospitals with hallways full of dead and dying people Sick that arent being fed let alone being given medicine And Im being hysteric This isnt SARS But the WHO and CDC are sticking to Chinese numbers when considering classifying this NEW outbreak So they are being given fake information and cant look into it themselves And people tout that as reason to belittle those that are being hysteric That and the few international cases where the patient gets treated and gets better are reason not to worry The Chineese dont have enough medical staff to treat the sick let alone the medicine or facility capacity and the medical staff that are treating them are occastionally being reported as sick and dying themselves But maybe that new hospital they built can house the tenshundreds of thousands of sick eh Yea people are generally dumb myself no exception and while groups of scared mobs are so stupid so as to be catastrophically dangerous so is beliving compromised facts The Authoritative genocidal CPC goverment allowed this to get this bad through sheer incompetence It is so sad for the Chineese people But most just care that this will tank the worlds economy Urgh What a chaotic world this is Maybe thats why so many are so against this being as bad as it is Theyre burnt out from ebola like fear mongering and thinking for themselves is too hard|0 Hence why more people should read up on this virus Its on the news daily so it really is no excuses But yeah this expectation that people will self educate is really a thin veil to ensure that everyone stays safe|1 deaths still growing at the same rate as recoveries we can only hope theyre just underreporting recoveries for some reason|1 One of my neighbors is set to go to Israeal in a few weeks I dont know if he is going to go through with it but if he does he is an idiot if you ask me|0 So they are basically just trusting people to not be the human assholes we are lol Good luck|1 That was done so that people would get tested for HIVPreviously if you thought you had HIV you should not get tested so you can never get done for knowingly spreading itSince Im sure you want less people to spread HIV I have no doubt you supported that law|1 Free corona for you|1 Id like to see your reference to the 30s and 40s dying|1 Being an island with only 2 bridges in or out also makes the task easier|1 Ive seen vids put out by less wealthy nations for mask instructions and they honestly dont look bad People act like you need all the bells and whistles to get 100 I put up the 3m vid just to discourage people from thinking a fit check was simpleThis is the real world Any medic or military doctor or nurse will tell you Some is better than none Do the best you can with what you gotUse it up Wear it out Make it do Or do without|1 I would say that is simply your own heightened awareness of what other people are doing around youPlease remember we are still in coldflu season in the northern hemisphere that not every cough or sneeze is CORVID19 Practice social distancing excellent personal hygiene and youll more than likely not catch anything even a simple cold|1 I do and I dont think she is the best candidate either|1 Im a felon and can do and get everything you just said i should forget about Seems you should stop buying into the nonsense surrounding felonies|0 I feel like this religion I dont like spreads the plague ON PURPOSE is a trope that comes up every single plague about whatever religion is currently unpopular I wouldnt trust anything like this without a lot of proof and you shouldnt believe it when you hear it applied to a religion the west doesnt like either when it becomes that|1 Cheer up Only 20 more years of this and herd immunity will kick in|1 No it still doesnt matter if this virus naming will catch on The reaction to the swine flu does not come from its name It came from the nature of the virus being that it started from pigs The name itself of a virus literally doesnt matter In fact this new virus name spoken irl coronavirusncovcovid has nothing to do with China already yet theres been a massive spike in Chinese racism cause of the nature of the virus eg where it came from Names do not matter Its the virus itself that matters|0 Is this even a legitimate news sourceand if this is true is anyone telling government leaders in other countries about this shit|0 Can someone explain it going away with warmer weather thing Its in California right now isnt it warm there now|1 Contrary to western philosophies Greek for example individuality is embedded in the culture Even the word for person atomo is exactly the same as of atom However in many Asian countries developed or not theres no I Theres only We And a lot of the hurdles come from individuals trying to fit in and please their people often ignoring their own desires On top of that working hours can be really stretched out and working there can be very stressful This is an outcome of Koreas desire to survive the 50s war and modernise via capitalism which they did but at the cost of sacrificing themselves so that the country can survive Even today that Korea is a very advanced country the momentum has not changedSocial rights Korean social system is umok Better than America but still far behind than a country like Germany per seTLDR practice your Nunchi and you will do well httpsenwikipediaorgwikiNunchi|1 Interesting thats exactly what CPS Chicago Public Schools announced today Down to the meal supplies being handed out to students to eat elsewhere Glad theyre taking care of the kids still|1 For real I nearly had to fight multiples for wearing a mask out yesterday Lord forbid I wear something on my body of my choosing|0 Especially since the South Korea was basically infected almost entirely because of a single specific church Granted it was a church that involved yelling Amen literally every three seconds sending tones of droplets everywhere but still|0 Im under 30 with a compromised immune system Ive gotten MRSA twice and I have asthma and eczema weakened skin barrier I am absolutely terrified of getting infected because even if I survive the long term lung damage will kill me I get short of breath on the regular as it is with my trash lungs And yet all the older folks I know dont seem to give a fuck|0 Its because u fucking politicians in US keep shitting China for months and u guys just cannot take one single fight back by one Chinese diplomat alone Ironic|0 Theres a few bugs in this website Ive contacted the site owner for help resolving them|1 Serious question why is it ok to question the experts when it comes to this Coronavirus but not ok when it comes to other subjects like climate change|1 Ah I didnt realize that In the hospital where I did my clinicals for respiratory care nurses never touched the vents Please excuse my ignorance|1 Yyy yeah I thought this was obvious for months Serious question did you really think we can avoid it On what grounds |0 Many do I guess they keep going until they get lucky|1 Because theyre only effective at stopping infection if theyre perfectly fitted for your face you use them properly ie dont touch it at all and you change it often Otherwise all youre doing is reducing supply needed for medical workers Dont buy masks unless youre already infected|1 Lol You have to be a full fledged indoctrinated cult zombie to believe that insane idioctic garbageYou mean the real life examples I posted Okay chief I wasnt blaming the current state dept on Hillary You obviously have reading comprehension issues so Im going to leave it at that|1 When there is ongoing work on a vaccine and treatment schemes those few weeks might save lives It also gives the state time more time to prepare for the peak|1 anecdotal evidenceGreat So were taking reports from chinese people and social media then copypasting it as trustworthy on our social media where people can further add their biases and inflame the situation|1 I dont know and dont have good data on it Its one of my big worries see 11|0 Anyone else get the feeling we will be doing what every other country is doing just slowly as the uk loves to fucking panic This week mass gatherings Next week school closures etc|1 is herd immunity even a viable solution though people in china are already getting the virus a second time|1 The original is here httpswwwyoutubecomwatchviXozpbomAnsThe above repost added English sub He has been vlogging from Wuhan before it was quarantined|1 I think they need to start amazon same or next day delivery of test kits That way people can test at home|1 Wellkinda I guess But it silently spreading around is definitely not a good thing for the population at risk Like some other commenter said should it not be contained or slowed down enough we are looking at hospitals simply not being able to handle the patient load Even if it only affects people with comorbidities seniors or the immunocompromised theyre still peoplefamily members loved ones not saying you implied the opposite I dont think the its just themjust a few mentality helps a lot when it comes to pandemics or just in general |1 So he drove from DC to Florida stopping along the entire route for gas and food Yeah thats smart Why wasnt he forced to quarantine in DC Seeing that he didnt have the sense to do it himself|1 They dont have enough and theyre scared of wasting them Kind of defeats the point of a test but thats what you got to do when youve fucked up this monumentally by not preparing|0 Yep and discovered what we now know is happening here Without her we likely wouldnt already have the distancing measures we already have in place Its going to get bad here but shes saves a good number of lives|1 No it is Dr Zhangs personal view You guys cant tell the different between discussions personal views and official conclusions Or you just chose to believe what you want to believe in and pick what suites your narrativesChinas official opinion is it the origin is a scientific question that is to be answered by scientific study a quote from a spokesperson of Chinas foreign ministryChinas response to the noble prize winner was a normal diplomatic response There was nothing wrong at all|1 The companies did the math and found it was cheaper to reimburse everyone rather than be stuck on the ship and feedentertain for a month|0 With a name like that coronavirus should be scared|0 Myocarditis may be the condition plaguing Iran vs the respiratory problems in China|0 The Chinese travelers who refused to travel with the Wuhan travelers were from Shanghai One of the travelers from Wuhan actually posted about it on her Weibohttpsmweibocn13008462504465258704040976 23 million likes and 100k comments most of them are criticizing her for being selfish|0 I just cancelled a trip to the UK for next week that Ive been looking forward to for a year Friends going with me are frustrated because they booked nonrefundable hotel rates because it would save them a few hundred overall Delta says theyll refund but theyre stuck on hold for hours The whole process of cancelling a trip was daunting enough that it took my husbands gov job telling him to not go to finally convince the friends that we should postpone this trip I think for many its just denial Were being told that as long as youre healthy youll be fine So if theyre young and healthy they dont see the risk In my mind Im sure we would be okay BUT I cant help but think what if it doesnt end okay and I made this choice to go So trip cancelled|1 I think he was just playing off a joke I dont think he was commenting on the quality of the studies|1 Thanks for the detailed information wasnt aware of much of this stuff Wish I had enough coins to give you an award|1 Thats also a good hypothesis|1 Way longer than the incubation period how come such an early cut off|0 I live by Everett where the first US case was reported Good thing Im already a hermit|1 What the actual fuck|0 WHO and China released a joint report recently and you can google itis it on who site or if not what keywords should i use Also in Wuhan initial mortality was over 16 which may explain why so many people are dying in Iranlooks like it have spread throughout Wuhan for some while like a month or so and probably more people then recorded were actually ill with it and recovered by themselves thinking its just a common cold before anyone noticed anything and before the city was put into quarantinebut at some point it spread enough to produce shitloads of severe cases among those most vulnerable population of Wuhan is 11 millions so its pretty easy to overrun hospitals even if small percent of citizens get severily sick all in one time noone knew exactly what theyre facing in initial stages and noone actually knew what to do with it how disease progresses etc etc so no wonder it was such a high mortality rate among those first but China was able to react quckilyi highly doubt its something that iranian authorities can and moreover are willing to do plus we cant actually trust their information i mean if some of their higher authorities already got sick it shouldve been pretty widespread it may be a coincidence but you know it looks quite suspicious My take away is try not to contract it if you do and its severe get proper medical care ASAPthe thing is you can contract it almost anywhereesp if youre living in rather big city and have to use public transportation though it seems like not everyone among those who contacted with sick person is going to contract the virus its still pretty unclear to me how it works though but i aint an expert ive just read something like dozen scientific articles in a past few days lolNINJA EDIT In Wuhan the rate eventually dropped to 1but the city is still in lockdown|0 Agreed Information is what we need to keep it from getting out of control even worse|0 Thats a fair comment I saw an interview on Channel 4 News last night but I cant find a transcript online The nearest thing Ive found so far is this from New Scientisthttpswwwnewscientistcomarticle2236610coronavirushowdoigettestedandhowdoesthetestworkTalking about why the test might not be reliableSomeone who has only just been infected may not yet be shedding the virus into the throat while someone at a late stage may have stopped doing so while still having an active infection in other parts of the body|0 Fingerwashin good|1 This is very plausible Especially when some countries underestimate on purpose virulance and do not test people like they should|0 Well your right I am just a random internet Anon but ma brother who studies epidemiology told me this He will get his master in H1J20 I know hes not a prof for the cdc but thats what he learned|1 But for this virus kids arent the vulnerable populations and keeping those kids at home would be a hassle for anyone who has a two income household School closures are pointless if many kids just end up back at a daycare|1 Shhh Thats different Its for our rich masters We dont speak of that |1 Time to sue or steal back the money|0 My strategy is to delay catching it by doing my best to mitigate the risk The more time the virus can be analyzed and understood the better and catching it outside the parabola of when the majority catches it would seem to be most idealYou can mitigate chances of catching it by avoiding crowded areas and prepping eg foodmaterials for long quarantine time N95 mask eliminates hand to face frequency still can filter out airborne contaminants if properly sealed to face etc|1 they should have worried sooner why is the US government this slow to protect its diplomats and why are they going against the shut down rules and spreading the risk here to the US|0 What the effing crap|0 Hah These droids feel no shame|0 Well good for them for having been shouting for almost 2 months about this pandemic since the beginning of this yearAt the same time I dont think they can cover it either there is no way you can hide the thing when all the hospitals of a whole city starts to blow up|1 My cousin sounds like an echo out of trumps asshole Sending me bullshit memes every few days to make himself feel better about denying it all Guess when you are in your 40s still living in parents basement the thought of them dying and getting your own house sound appealing|0 ThisWe need all government employees and people in positions of leadership to wear themThe stigma has to stopEveryone wants to wear a mask they are just embarrassed|0 The Chinese people with masks getting off of airplanes like he just stated|1 Go stay with them bring them to stay with you or accept the fact that they may be left without help if things get really bad Its a bad reality but there are not enough resources to even check in with every senior living alone much less provide home nursing care if they should get sick|0 Hey governments you seeing this You seeing this shit Yeah do this this|0 Its so fucked upthis whole system is fucked|0 Lol you cant exactly translate Chinese names to English names|1 Im not educated in any medical field but it sounds like so far whatever you have youve been handling it like you should I know that even after getting a normal cold youre gonna take a while before a cough goes away due to the inflammation and sensitivity in your lungs I know if or when I get sick with anything Ill probably feeling the same way you are I panic at the slightest sniffle Plus its not like theres any specific medicine for covida cold so unless youre really needing medical help due to symptoms I think its smart you dont want to risk catching something in a hospital|1 Yea but lets keep our fingers crossed n hopefully some hero out there with the virus volunteers to save the worldThen all that would stand in the way is big pharmas greed and carelessness for human life|1 Theres been a trend in the USA to encourage people to let professionals handle everything and to treat the average person as being incapable of doing anything sensible In my opinion its stupidity I have heard countless experts say that masks are useless unless theyre worn properly as if you need a MD from an Ivy League school to learn how to put one on Heres a video from Singapore showing how to wear a mask properlyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvzoxpvDVoNI Its 2 whole minutes long The experts believe thats about 2 minutes longer than the attention span of the average American so its better to have them die of ignorance than to spend a couple of minutes learning how to protect themselvesWhen the death count gets a little bit higher here and there are a lot of people coughing people will start wearing masksThere are also lots of rumors around that the Covid19 is an Asian problem or only affects heavy smokers or people who eat bats or Iranians or very old people or anybody else Once people start seeing their friends getting sick and a couple of famous people die the culture will embrace maskwearing very quickly People think it cant happen here somebody will do something about it before it becomes a real problemWe had a bunch of false alarms or got lucky with SARS and Ebola and H1N1 and Swine Flu so people are also used to the news talking about scary pandemics that never do anything If you watch TV in America there is always some deadly threat nuclear winter climate change killer bees sharks that never seems to materialize People have learned to tune all that out|0 this post didnt age well|0 100 years ago Spanish flu shut down Philadelphia and wiped out thousandsSome 12000 people died after the city held infamous Liberty Loan paradeDamn people were so American back then|0 Oh no its ok I said something similar below This IS scary and pretty unprecedented but its an aggressive safety measure so things dont become a worst case scenario Things may temporary be bad but hopefully this will best stop the spread quickly and once we have things under control we can bounce back I basically said its similar to being in a car crash and an airbag exploding in your face But we also shouldnt panic and anticipate the end of days because that just makes things worse|1 Yes I have exactly the same symptoms as you do No sore throat either I can work from home but not completely Some of my work must be in person I work at a hospital so Im taking all precautions here to be sure i dont spread this Whatever it may be|1 Pretty much this|1 You dont need to know someone to get infected by them you idiot|0 Im not an expert in this field but Im starting to feel like our entire economy is on the brink of collapse Am I right or over reacting here|0 People are reactivate now instead of proactive Theres also no forward thinking|1 As long as the trains runwere be fineHopefully it wont end with a tramp whos been drunk for a month and 3 skinny cows wandering round the M25 thinking its a bit quiet for a Sunday |0 Right that is the right thing to do and is why the sovereign wealth only matters for imports|1 It has mutated into two strains alreadyacademic paper about the two strainshttpsacademicoupcomnsradvancearticledoi101093nsrnwaa0365775463searchresult1|0 Seamus Oregan was able to get tested with no travel history because he had a head cold Trudeau only acted AFTER his wife got sick This government should be ashamed at themselves for how they handled this situation and still are Now the only people allowed to get tested in Ontario are healthcare workers makes sense severely ill andnatives|0 One vaccine might be good for all of them might not Theraputics might be developed treatments might be developed Given time I think they will Totally new virus to our imune system first wave will be worstYour herd immunity idea wont last long once bodies of loved ones start piling up|1 The Netherlands has done something very similar 90 of all salaries of a companys employees that are unable to work due to Corona sickness or no available work will be subsidized by the government|0 Italy is not hiding anything and testing like crazy|1 I appreciate your education experience and opinion in the WHO However it would appear that the virus has been intentionally manipulated so that while the virus could certainly come from an animal the genome has a nonorganic section in the sequence This is what makes this virus so threatening|0 Dry Stainless steal isnt going to transmit anything|0 Wow thats terrible I wonder how much of the staff is infected as well|0 Cant understand it but to be fair the other night I went on YouTube incognito mode then I went to MSM sites and there is nothing that would upset a flea Unless you look for information they are not going to find it Yesterday I saw a documentary on a British Channel Coronavirus is Britain ready if that was shown on CNN I think you would see the shelves bare Im wondering if they are releasing information in dribs and drabs in different parts of the world USA being last for whatever reason Korea seems informed now Britain I saw something from AustraliaMaybe they think our citizens will freak out the most there has to be a reason as you said they go ballistic over a case of measles Im old so everybody had measles mumps scarlet fever chicken pox I remember my mother taking me to everybodys house that had chicken pox so I would catch it young She had it older I never did get Chicken pox Different time I guess|1 I believe that too but the idea that the US may not exist as a single political entity is unfathomable to many Americans so I figured Id stick to less controversial examples|0 Yeah Ill pick it up when they add steps again 4 years and counting not looking good|0 Red circles are 5 confirmed cases I will make it more clear in a future update|1 You have to be ridiculously dumb to both think that someone is infected because they are wearing a mask AND to want to engage with them physically|0 Accusing the Trump administration of spreading accurate information would actually be newsworthyThis is par for the course|0 Those stupid people are still Apex predators with a suppressed instinct to survive at all costs When you peel back all the layers of modern civilization were about three days of no food before a time of anarchy and chaos|0 Oh I totally agree it is an absolute shit show And when people just brush it off these are the scenarios Ive tried to explain Its not just COVID19 its mere presence in the microbial ecosystem effs everything in the chain up The primary care physicians on the front lines have a really REALLY hard slog in front of them with no good solutions I wouldnt want to have to make these calls And the state and federal authorities are handwringing and wishcasting its infuriating and depressing All those times thinking wed never be as dangerously unprepared and stupid as Hollywood made us look in outbreak type shows and movies yet here we areEDIT Stupid apostrophe|0 all pastas arent grown in the fields of ItalyWell thats certainly news to my ears|1 Its just the flu bro Italians 3 weeks ago|0 Its like saying the car can drive if youre missing your windshield wipers your headlights the doorlock mechanism etcIt can drive its just not fully functional and can be dangerous|0 Does anyone have a study I can look at showing high viral titre exposure vs prognosis in anything It makes sense to some extent but the only thing Ive seen was a study in sars asymptomatic cases in healthcare workers when exposed depending on precautions taken and it was more of a footnote|0 Even at those numbers this is scary|0 Yeah wtf|0 Yeah thats wildly unrealistic They look like theyre taking pretty much the lowest rate they can find as if we are the best prepared for this Weve been doing nothing for weeks|1 so basically poisoning the youth to make them more suspectible to future diseases damn world is playing long con|0 I love how theres no reference link|1 A few people have moaned saying he shouldnt of said people may have deaths in the d family but I thought it was just common senceAnother thing I saw people moaning saying old people shouldnt get isolated as they will get lonely Which is better than them dying|1 Its like God is losing plague inc|1 So if you stay home to prevent the spread of the virus you have to use your PTO if you get infected with the virus you can use your sick leave I may have figured out a loophole you could use here|0 We have working coronavirus vaccines in poultryYou just sound like an antivaxxerSARS would have gotten a vaccine figured out if the virus didnt die out and funding didnt dry upedit looking at your comments you literally are an antivaxxer and a climate change denierGuys we are up voting this|1 This is not the freedom of speech argumentYes it is I am saying that my argument against censoring this sub is the same argument behind freedom of speech that the free exchange of ideas is valuable and should not be stifled that is not saying that mods removing reddit comments violates the constitutionreddit is a company and as such they can do whatever they want with your comments but lets ignore thatI did not say it was illegal for mods to remove comments I said my position is they should not do so because the consequences of doing so outweigh the benefits of doing so So yes lets ignore Reddits corporate status you are free to create your own sub and never remove a commentYes I am aware of this and I have made such a sub rFreeAbortionDebate you cant force him to moderate it as you want they own itI am aware of this My position is not that it is against the rules for mods to remove comments My position is they should not do so because the consequences of doing so outweigh the benefits of doing so there are a lot more armchair experts among normal people than experts in the topic armchair experts will say X thing as a fact if they think is true experts usually need solid evidence to say something with certainty if they dont have it they make it clear they are speculating or theres lacking evidenceThis is true and armchair experts are harmful We disagree on how to remedy it The moderators of rCoronavirus are not themselves experts and theyre not more credible than I am I come here to see information and then I critically evaluate the information and form opinions When instead I see removed the sub is useless to me It would be far better of the novice mods who this post praises would step aside and let discourse lead to consensus You might notice that you and I are having a conversation We disagree with each other But one of us is not deleting the comments of the other on the basis that we disagree That is what I am advocating as opposed to censorship Not because mods removing comments is illegal but because the consequences of doing so outweigh the benefits of doing so|1 Im glad Im not so sure about infants but it seems kids are handling it okay Ive read a lot of them are carriers with no symptoms my five year old being one of them Stay safe out there|1 Ive been watching Japans numbers for week US numbers just sailed right past them Theyve definitely been doing something right about slowing the spread of the virus And of course no one is actively adopting their practices Stupid|0 I have no doubt|0 Wasnt that what the Patriot Act did And then it got leaked and everyone got upset and that one guy fled the country and Wikileaks got in trouble then everyone went oh its not a big deal its to protect us And they started doing it again because people didnt care as much as they thought they would Also who the hell is efforgWhy not just link the billhttpswwwcongressgovbill116thcongresssenatebill3398textformattxt|0 I used to think an antibiotic resistant bacterial outbreak would do similar damage to what this virus is causing now|0 I would hope some actual medical doctors can debunk this I am not a doctor No because you smell a fart doesnt mean you catch it The virus apparently can be present in faeces just like many other nasty things and spread by poor hygiene The same reason people get sick from salad bars and buffets because some jackass didnt wash their hands properly after taking a dump then prepared food or touched the shared utensils|0 holy shit imagine being this insecure|0 Take a breath for a momentDo you consider that your government is being transparent or not Stay safe my fellow human being |0 The incubation period of 2 weeks the mild symptoms for 2 weeks the severe symptoms 1 week means its like a month before this thing kills you Kinda evil|0 I mean my large US university literally cancelled the rest of the semester today so I wouldnt be so absolute about it|0 Yeah Ill take a large chicken nuggets 2 cokes a shake and wtf are you doing No Get the FUCK away from me with that thing|0 Oh man thats worrying My girl friend and I go to planet fitness and Ive noticed people there have been sick too I had to go to my grandmas yesterday for a few minutes and warned her about all this going on|0 Sure if humans lend the virus a hand it will be worseMy number was wrong btw its only 8 for the 7079 age group the 15 is for the 80 group|1 Sing it happy birthday twice|1 The CDC testing has been so sparing there could be significant undetected transmission in both states|1 i agree but now im not sure|0 I dont talk about China much outside of relevance but theres always long threads linking to it somehow or another If Im in a subreddit about racing games Ill engage in racing games not the ones complaining about how tencent bought shares into the game and how itll suck now Ive seen people that dislike criticism of America with the two wrongs make a right ideology so I know what you mean Also that second point is actually pretty important I didnt think of that|0 The safety of the drug is already known It has been tested before for Ebola|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 In case it helps anyone if you feel any kind of virus going on take bucket loads of Vitamin C if you have access to it Garlic tablets and place a heating pad on the place you feel bad usually top of head above eyes around teeth or to the back of your neck Usually the vitamin C and heating pad gives an artificial but very effective fever will burn the viruses totally up overnight|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Exactly There is a lot of atmosphere and hype at a rally Its hard to get that when you are not there in person Its kind of like the difference between watching a concert or something in person vs a recording of it|1 Surprise surprise I wonder if they will do a Trudeau or the PM of spain and just announce that Ivanka or Melania is positive|1 Unfortunately it appears to be But hey theres still a bit over 24 hours left before the end of the week Im sure Trumps goal of 1 million by the end of the week is still very achievable|1 The schools in my district are still open and its frustrating because we were informed that a student might have been exposed but they will not tell us if they are postive or not which is frustrating|0 Im doing a Covid diet and losing weight for the first time in years Im not hardshipping but Im more aware that I dont want to go out tomorrow and replace something I eat today so Id better stretch things outI also like looking at the graphs for China and South Korea It can be slowed down|1 Thanks so will I Yeah I know I mean I keep thinking well surely they have to but then again thats if they havent gone bust by then Eek|1 Stewart Island is like 300 men on Halfmoon Bay|1 Only amazon is allowed to price gouge on amazon|1 Ive been embarrassed for our country since November 2016|0 So do we really need to wait until politicians get infected and suffer from the disease to get any movement on thisIm pretty sure they are protecting themselves in their mansions not leaving homes at all|0 g Canadian province Yukon or even British Colombia for the southernmost part of AlaskaBut the southernmost part of Alaska is isolated from the rest of the state|0 Its bad but the number of new cases is going to start falling over the next few weeks due to the shut downI feel worse for the countries that are not taking the problem seriously|0 Considering his choice not to put the actual MD in his cabinet in charge while instead choosing the guy who tried to pray away AIDSI concur with your conclusion that were truly and totally fuckedI think the team is actually designed to block accurate information flow from medical professionals which will cause COVID19 to spread rapidly Gen Population doesnt know the risk level in their community no one takes precautions boom pandemic|1 Stop it with all your logic I came here to ruin my day and to be crippled with fears|0 We have collected food and drugs for a month Dried my own beef jerky and stocked up on beans rice and lentils Not much but just so we dont starve the first month The wife bought an extra bag of dogfood so they are good for 2 months|1 Its very slowShared experience guidance from our colleagues in Northern Italy Dear ColleaguesEveryone is closely watching and monitoring the COVID19 outbreak This global emergency is presenting major challenges for our profession as we attempt to anticipate tackle and eventually get ahead of itAs there are many new experiences with this type of virus we need to learn from those with more experience Information is vital As you will have seen Northern Italy is in the middle of a crisis and Lombardy in particular has been severely affected Our colleagues coordinating the emergency ICU response in Northern Italy have sent me the following message which they wish to convey to all our membersI salute all the work our colleagues are doing globally faced with this situation ESICM will endeavor to do its part to share accurate information and resourcesWishing you all the strength needed in the coming monthsYours respectfullyProf Jozef KeseciogluPresident ESICMMilan 4 March 2020Dear friendsAt this moment in time we believe it is important to share our first impressions and what we have learned in the first ten days of the COVID19 outbreakWe have seen a very high number of ICU admissions almost entirely due to severe hypoxic respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilationThe surge can be important during an outbreak and cluster containment has to be in place to slow down virus transmissionWe are seeing a high percentage of positive cases being admitted to our Intensive Care Units in the range of 10 of all positive patientsWe wish to convey a strong message Get readyWe also want to share with you some key points from our experience Get ready now with your ICUs networks to define your contingency plan in the event of an outbreak in your community Dont work in silo Coordinate with your hospital management and other healthcare professionals to prepare your response Make sure your hospital management and procurement office have a protocol in place about which personal protection equipment PPE to stock and restock Make sure your staff is trained in donning and doffing procedures Use education training and simulation as much as possible Identify early hospitals that can manage the initial surge in a safe way Increase your total ICU capacity Get ready to prepare ICU areas where to cohort COVID19 patients in every hospital if necessary Put in place a triage protocol to identify suspected cases test them and direct them to the right cohort Make sure you set clear goals for care with the patients and their families early on|1 please know that the Swedish government is basically doing nothing and from what I can see life is continuing as normal over here Its gonna get really bad eventually and spread|0 This should be the scariest part Imagine youve got Corona Virus maybe your whole family including kids and parents you now realize theres no hope in your town for a doctors attention Youre ordered to report to a camp What do you do Do you report to camp nohope or do you attempt to flee to find doctors attention elsewhere and maybe find admittance to a hospital in a city a few hundred miles away as far as your car if youre lucky enough to have one can take you All it takes is a few people with this mentality to cause the tipping point Thats the scariest part for me Because I know if I was in their shoes I might do the same thing especially knowing the government|1 Better late than never I suppose|1 Adding for asthmatics that are typically not in need of inhaled corticosteroids except when ill could preventative use of an inhaled corticosteroid potentially diminish that rate of complications|0 ive been having problems breathing as well but havnt been tested x200BThis might sound silly and maybe im just extremely anxious but do you ever so often smell something extremely powerful and odd off that almost burns your nose|0 If they have a source of meltblown fabric I imagine they are pretty effective But thats the real bottleneck apparently httpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200316814929294covid19hascausedashortageoffacemasksbuttheyresurprisinglyhardtomak|1 Yes of course there is investigative work going on Thats what epidemiologists do|1 I dont see why youd be downvoted the truth is stranger than fiction|1 You better believe its both sides of the political spectrum Its about |1 I mean a lot of the rich people or shareholders are jews so when you talk about killing the rich you are indirectly wellthey never catch a break do they Theyve been kicked out enslaved or fell victim to genocide in majority of the countries theyve been in|0 Well the virus can survive for 2 weeks on surfaces probably everything at the stores is contaminatedgood luck|1 One infected out of 40k Gamechanger Reddit|0 Ok your right a test with a higher accuracy rate would not be good Give up on the idea an plow ahead|0 Life pro tip you can buy a coffee maker Avoid yourself the surprise call from a CDC detective a few weeks from now explaining that your barista tested positive|1 Dems called it rascistI didnt see that I must have missed it Can you point me towards where you found that I just like being informed|1 Im confused why people are bashing the process of protecting citizens from an aggressive and deadly virus Would these same people still complain if their relatives or they themselves came down with the virus If you dont get sick its not due to your denial that a problem exists its due to the actions of officials instituting hygiene quarantine and social distancing measures Denying reality only works to spread doubt and misinformation Germs are real I dont care what your assertive friend family member has to say The ignorant are quick to dismiss what they dont understand and show no desire to attempt to comprehend|0 This is just going to bankrupt a million companies Nah just federalize this virus relief shit|0 Gotta say 9 days is a long time for it to survive on surfaces If thats true its scaryI have been doing this as well we have a dry area outside where ive been leaving the few packages we get They sit out there for a week and then I wash or spray the items as I open it and leave the packaging itself outside right into the trash|1 Same couple iirc 100k in total sales equalling 30k in profits|1 Well im not much into whats proposed in america i was just giving you an example of socialied healthcare system thats doing better due to government taking it seriously|1 If you start feeling a lot better for a few days then all of a sudden feel much worse go to the hospital Thats usually a sign that you have a taken a really bad turn|0 This has never happened in the history of coronavirusesThey have all kinds of family spread of the virus They dont attribute it specifically to the door handle or the light switch or the dog Theres no way to know That is a terrible argument against using caution and common sense and posts like yours are going to get someone killed|0 Nothing is happening hereWhat would you like to see being done in the UK that isnt already being doneIt shouldnt be that surprising that the UK government hasnt resorted to curfews yet as there are only 319 confirmed cases The number of cases reported today was fewer than that reported yesterday The UK and most other European countries are not in the same boat as Italy yet|1 To add to this the average age of truckers is 55 and 94 maleAnd there was a shortage of truckers BEFORE this startedhttpswwwnprorg20180109576752327truckingindustrystruggleswithgrowingdrivershortage|0 Tokyo is not owned by Disney and Disney has shared ownership with the Shanghai and Hong Kong governments for those parks Paris was bought back from Disney so they fully own Paris|1 Good time to remember that Trump and Congressional Republicans also tried to kick 85M people off of their health insurance ACA with no plan to replace it just three years ago|1 Thanks for the tip Dwight|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This Fuck this season|0 The truth doesnt have to cause panic Not if you actually have a solid response plan give people actions they can take unify them behind a common cause and dont just dump bad news on them and go lol good luck with that were clueless what to do hurr durr|1 Doing it right I wish Canada did this now our cases are in the hundreds yet our prime minister is still doing nothing|1 Yes and no Yes humanity will survive like it always have But no left unchecked itll be like the Spanish Flu all over again|1 Very true|1 I usually do about 5 for pizza If its a big order I do more I have no idea for groceries though|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Italy has not peaked my best guess would be in two weeks at least 20K dead|0 Yeah I suspect they will make some really compelling presentations to give to people in government who will not glance at them too hard|1 Imagine the burden when kids parents and grandparents die|0 True but who is to say that this hypothetical person or group not have another one ready for when this is one is overThe virus is not manmade but it does have the right elements to be an environmental weapon Not deadly enough to kill everyone but just enough for countries to be forced to take such strong measures|0 Just in time inventory system comes back to haunt you|0 I wasnt sure Id heard it was today but likely next week now Im not fully Im agreement I think there is lots western developed countries COULD have done maybe not now but in prep for an occasion like this If you look at this locally in time We live in such a here and now mindstate that even WHEN China was going at it large scale action we looked on and didnt even bat an eyelid Boris had a call over a month ago with Xi and didnt raise any alarms maybe he did but little has been shown to say that had happened Wider picture weve seen South EA deal with SARS we had Ebola but we sat and watched rather than consider this something that may happen on our shores When the fire of London burned they say that the wealthy people of Hampstead sat on the heath and watched not sure if your from London but its a story I was always told I feel like the west does this around the world all too often golden chances to take stock and hasnt happened Thats why Europe will be hit hard Yea this years been a blinder so far hahah|1 Confirmation Corona Virus was weaponized and where it came from The smoking gun httpsyoutubeFTPjbu4FAE|0 But again there is no beneficial purpose apart from comfort for lowering a safe fever eg 102 degrees F and if it slows viral replication rate allowing the fever to persist might be preferable|1 Saying deaths will rise by 6 every day would have been a better prediction by far It did not predict the next few days well at allx200BDateDeathsPredicted DeathsDifferenceMy PredictedDifference6th73721377207th7378685798228th8682465851189th89872259122510th979251597011th10897101910346312th97102515109123713th1461072671115212314th1221137381210816975069|1 what good is money if youre deador if you infect your loved ones for a bossowner who doesnt give a fuck about you or your family|1 This would be so odd in no any American neighborhoods Italy is so cool Definitely going to visit when this all gets better|1 Bigger have happened and this is worldwide Too many people acting like the US is the only ones with problems I am betting this will be a world changer We are already seeing citizens worldwide at the breaking point People are tired of leaders being incompetent This is a worldwide issue now|0 As my high school IB history teacher said sarcastically last week why be proactive when you can be reactive Made me laugh but no one else laughed|1 I had a procedure and was told to wear a mask in public I was not contagious but instead vulnerable What does that tell you about masks|0 ive also heard that corona virus is terrible to lungs|0 This will have a huge impact on the economy of china so I expect some kind of effect|1 I like beer Not an endorsement just a statement|1 About time he said something that makes sense Surprised he didnt say the same thing he did a few months back So what|1 Easily Were in bad shape Good thing ItS jUsT a BaD fLu|0 DFW has one of the largest and busiest airports in North America There are 10s of thousands of employees you work there and could potentially be exposed to travelers who have the Covid19 virusI would not be surprised if the virus is already in the wild around the metroplex A friend says that everyone at UNT is sick coughing sneezing etc during class He says it is awful having to attend and risking your own health All the Universities in TX are completely ill prepared and have no plan They havent even taken the imitative to make sure all profs put their classes on line so if the schools do shut down things can continue Just a bunch of fuck ups running these institutions and could give a shitWhat a fucking nightmare|0 Its not so much about the quality of healthcare in general so much as the disproportionate amount of care given to new patients outside Hubei in an attempt to stop the spread of the virus IIRC Hubei accounts for something like 98 of the deaths within China as wellEdit also consider that many sick in other countries are initially tourists from China so the agedemographics are a bit different|1 I can see hotels being turned into makeshift hospitals as the administration couldnt build a hospital in ten days like China did All Trump sees is his presidency going down the tubes|1 No kidding I can vouch for that|0 Ah shit SHIT|0 This isnt information these are wild guessesNo theyre not wild guesses theyre rational predictions based on current information Basically I simply replaced the name of the country in each sentence because everything on that list is already happening in other countries and will happen in the US soon too because theres no way to stop it from happening|0 Yow this very seriousI live in Madrid spain in a small town Call Alcala de Henares Many people are inside Doors but we still have Crazy People over here who are using thier Dog to walk aroung on the streetSome of them are even pulling up Ad online sayRent Dog for 1050Over here we are up 11000 infected 500dead 1000 recover form the Coronavirus|0 Im in a suburb and am selfquarantined My kids school is still open and the local school district will probably stay open as long as possible because were in a low income school district and many kids rely on free lunch Up until last week our school was holding parents events as normal Id say the majority or my neighbors are still in denial On the other hand I hear traffic has been really great|1 So sadeven he is sick|0 Yes and no places like Washington state should definitely be closed but places like Missouri with barely any cases should not be closed|1 This is what I believe too The health organizations doesnt want a shortage on mask so they are downplaying the effectiveness of mask for people not infected by saying its the people who are already infected that need the mask most In a way its almost triage But if you ask yourself what the standard medical practice for nurses treating people infected with corona virus they are required to wear N95 mask So it must be a good protective measure from getting exposed to it|1 Its almost like if we took painful yet extreme precautionary measures from the start we could minimize the spread and get way ahead of all the incoming danger But people have to work and live I just cant understand how they expect to do all that from a hospital bed or a graveI limited my exposure to a lot of people over a month ago Granted i have that luxury But by not enacting social distancing and implementing ways for people who can work from home to do so Along with not taking preventative sanitary measures we guarantee this thing to take a qucker more aggressive stranglehold Ironically enough those painful measures will still come but be too little too late|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 In practice most of the people are irrational and not educatedBut I agree with your opinion about China and other actors It is all entirely damned|0 There is nobody to actually watch the children There is heavy equipment just outside the lunch room Pallet jacks forklifts slicing machines massive plastic overwrappers trucks all over the parking lotIts basically one of the last places youd want children Theyd rather go bankrupt then go bankrupt and kill a child|0 You speak as if these folks dying is a blessing in disguise Dont forget they have families just like you and I Agree with them or not|1 absolutely i was laughed at 2 weeks ago by none other than my own parents told i was going way overboard now some shit tabloid they read or some bellend on the regional news tells them the same thing and theyre telling me the same shit i told them weeks ago|0 Most Americans the people think they are the Americans You are not the real Americans are the Corporations you are merely a tool a mean to an end you are just chattel to themThe sad part is you still have a chance to change things but you keep electing people working for Corporations over and over because of some insane politics as sports|0 Like the US Fed govt has been any better|1 Yeah but its still less than rbirdswitharmshttpswwwredditcomrbirdswitharms let that sink in|1 Yea I guess Zazzaro 703 on reddit jsut wrote me how the redditors are quoting him wrong and so no wonder he says fake newsseriously|0 At this point forget the definition aof pandemic I want these people to define contained|0 Western countries dont have the balls for that and the population isnt ready either|0 Right I have just not told anyone except one couple who is like minded|1 Thank you Ill try that|0 Yup That trump one was blacked out from the press conference this afternoon He was using some pretty big words|1 Haha I used to go there and still check rgatech from time to time The way you described it in your comment lined up pretty well with my experiences with the administration there as well as the general consensus in the subreddit so I figured the odds were pretty good you went to Tech|1 Makes sense for the emergency meeting at the White House|0 Sweet I leave for Paris in 15 days Just gotta stay hunkered for those last 5|1 It took about 36 hours to get my results back I was swabbed Thursday night at 830pm and found out this afternoon around 2pm and have been selfquarantining since then They told us my wife and child wont need to be testedif they start showing symptoms theyre just presumed to be positive|1 Id hope theyd share but then again if everyone is selfquarantining one day thats not going to happen I have doubts that itll get that bad in most places in the US but who really knows I guess|0 Sweden YES|1 Well we could also pressure China to close their appalling wet markets that trade in exotic and wild and endangered species that are continually unleashing these plagues on humanity but I guess people are making too much money to rock the boat The insanity is surreal|0 COVID19 is the biggest threat to the US and will have greater implications than any disease ever has Testing is the first step to stopping the spread of a virus Thus we need testing free and available|1 Yes unless you live in a crowded part of town where there are people right outside your door going outside is good One theory about why people get more colds and flu in winter is because they spend more time indoors with the doors and windows shut So go outside as long as you can stay far from people And let fresh air into the house unless your neighbourhood is so crowded people are right there outside your windows|1 The Trump Administration is the most incompetent administration in history|0 If you have a waterproof phone without damage or cracks you can literally just wash it with warm water and dish soap I regularly wash my iPhone XS this way One of my favourite features of modern phones I like to avoid saturating the bottom speaker grill tho and then tamp the water out of the various speakersmics This wont harm the oleophobic coatings like alcohol or scalding hot water may|1 Lets not be rude to them for considering to do the right thing it must be hard|1 I mean theres worldclass experts saying they are wrong Thats not really a good argument|0 300 euro pay it you cheap ass|0 taiwannews the ones that published the tencent altered numbers as true another unverified rumor with 0 credibility|1 Dunno if Id been on a long haul flight theres a genuine possibility id demand a cigarette before quarantine Whats that about being instructed not to use his phone Not saying his attitude is great but still|1 Thats really great now please put a shirt on|1 Get you a berkey water filter You can shove anything but salt water in it and make it drinkable LOL I kind of have the best of both words Grew up in the mid west camping hunting and fishing and now have a big family in NY If anyone can survive a old country boy can|1 Has anyone seen the red dead redemption 2 south park episode Where they are all sitting around in the community center asking when is the proper time to be worried If anyone has seen that episode that is going to be the world here soon|0 And it was worth it because these 60 people shared a locker room with someone who had it They could have all had it while flying all over the country and playing other teams who then also traveled This could have been a huge catastrophe and they needed to know how many people in the Jazz organization had it|1 I keep having the same thought Its not the worst thing to run out of if youre in your home Isnt soap more important|1 Regional lockdowns are meant to slow but not stop the pandemic until a vaccine is developed Greatly reduces the huge number of deaths that would occur otherwise The vaccine will not be widely distributed for about a year estimates predict In that time millions will die if left unchecked|0 This is why its important for people to collect raw phone footage and preserve it A lot of us whove followed this from January onward remember the horrific footage before the VPN crackdown A lot of the later people are buying into all the propaganda because everything else has been erased|0 Seems like every politician I hear about has been tested much more the celebrities|1 They probably believed it was a hoax|0 Military bases arent any better for quarantine than cruise ships|0 I read somewhere that a 400lb guy can go like a year with only vitamins and water Im 350 So Im not too worried about food My sweet little 4 year old tho Shes gon starve Lol jk|1 No Is your memory that bad that you forgot why people got angry httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvc8lRtcw0HOQ|0 Viruses survive fine in freezing conditions Labs store virus samples in 80C freezersliquid nitrogen as the low temperature slows chemical reactions and prevents breakdowndegradation of the virus Putting it in a home freezer 4C will slow viral degradation Youd be better just washing it in soapy water if its not paper or leaving it on the counter overnight UV will fuck a virus right up though Boiling water or a hot oven is also an option|0 This is what we call a Reddit AllyoopTis a thing of beauty|1 httpvirologicalorgttheproximaloriginofsarscov2398httpvirologicalorgttheproximaloriginofsarscov2398 httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200207939207v1httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200207939207v1 x200BFrom the links posted above I read that a polybasic cleavage site may increase viral pathogenicity and the extra proline of the PRRA insert may allow for mucin Olinked glycans The potential function of the three predicted Olinked glycans is less clear but they could create a mucinlike domain that would shield potential epitopes or key residues on the SARSCoV2 spike protein Possible and noted functions of Olinked glycans OGalNAc sugars are important in a variety of processes including leukocytehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiLeukocyte circulation during an immune response fertilisation and protection against invading microbeshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMicrobes1httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteSteen199812httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteHounsell19952OGalNAc sugars are common on membrane glycoproteinshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGlycoproteins where they help increase rigidity of the region close to the membrane so that the protein extends away from the surface6httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteVarki20156 For example the lowdensity lipoprotein receptor LDL is projected from the cell surface by a region rigidified by Oglycans2httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteHounsell19952In order for leukocytes of the immune system to move into infected cells they have to interact with these cells through receptorshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiReceptorbiochemistry Leukocytes express ligandshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiLigands on their cell surface to allow this interaction to occur1httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteSteen19981 Pselectin glycoprotein ligand1 PSGL1 is such a ligand and contains a lot of Oglycans that are necessary for its function Oglycans near the membrane maintain the elongated structure and a terminal sLex epitope is necessary for interactions with the receptor8httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteTaylor20118MucinshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMucin are a group of heavily Oglycosylated proteins that line the gastrointestinal and respiratory tracts to protect these regions from infection6httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteVarki20156 Mucins are negatively charged which allows them to interact with water and prevent it from evaporating This is important in their protective function as it lubricates the tracts so bacteria cannot bind and infect the body Changes in mucins are important in numerous diseases including cancerhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCancer and inflammatory bowel diseasehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiInflammatoryboweldisease Absence of Oglycans on mucin proteins changes their 3D shape dramatically and often prevents correct function1httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteSteen199819httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationcitenoteVarki19999source httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylationhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiOlinkedglycosylation x200BI also read that mucins love water and are resistant to proteases If this mucinlike area exists within a junction of the SARSCoV2 spike protein perhaps this keeps the proteins stable spike proteins extend all along the outside of the virus for a longer time to increase the odds of receptorbinding which leads to increased rate of cellular infection hence the increase in pathogenicity Additionally the study seems to be leaning toward the idea that this polybasic cleavage site could be a result of shortchain H2H transmission among several individuals in their dealings with wildlife where the virus eventually acquires the right combinations of amino acids to finally take hold in humans as a virus replicates those that have genes that code for better proteins may replicate better and faster and not die out in the host These people may have become infected and sick but not on a scale noticeable enough to sound an alarm in a healthcare setting The other theory was that this polybasic cleavage site may have already been present in a virus in a nonhuman host pangolin bat etc and was picked up when handling wildlife Do we know which is more likely And how does this conflict with other studies I have read on SARS that make the case that a SARS mutation is rather rare due to its lengthy genome Holmes and Rambaut 2004And what are the odds of this virus being a recombinant of a bat and a pangolin I am unaware of any batpangolin associations in the wild other than they are both nocturnal and some pangolins are arboreal living in hollow trees I would think the place for them to interact is when they are trafficked at markets with a person handling both on a daily basis But thats a lot of assumptions|1 Im no expert but it seems that people congregating in open air would be much preferred to them hanging in restaurants and bars|0 Nobody cares Have you not seen the media the past week Shopping centres|1 Why are we still Not Testing This is so incredibly frustrating Why the hell cant the US get it together|0 These are all great responses Anther thing to look to is stories of elderly people who have made it through Ive heard a 96 year old beat its ass and a few other elderly people too Even if you or a loved one are in a high risk group this is not a death sentence Most people do and WILL recover I hope youre feeling better 3|1 I have some painters masks but I know they arent very effective so if I have to go out Ill have to put tape all round the sides and use tissues or cotton under itThe worst part is that I had a bunch of masks that Ive had since living in Japan in 2013 and before last Christmas I was going through the closet and wondered why I was holding on the them through 3 moves and several rounds of downsizing and didnt foresee any need for them so I threw them out|0 dig a little deeper and youll find Everyone in Wuhan is still locked in their houses Factories are faking activity to appear online In Beijing subways are deserted most schools are still closedx200Bits far from over in China|0 Yeah i know i was just kidding i dont get why you are downvotedHave a nice day internet stranger|1 Its actually the opposite The consensus thought among scientists studying it is that the main form of transmission is through breathing in infected particles Touching infected surfaces is a much smaller rate of infection Masks help Dont let people tell you otherwise The virus can stay viable in the air for up to 3 hours 3 hours So if someone was infected in the supermarket coughed in the produce aisle and left someone could just walk down that produce aisle 3 hours later and breath infected air Wear masks in public people If you dont believe me Look at china South korea They all were masks everywhere now And it not just for shits and giggles|0 Damn what am I gonna do without thise internet points|0 They are trying to blame their lack of foresight on the general publicIf it was a serious concern back in January or early February hospitals would have been directed to have made pcard purchases in their local area to scoop up available masksIt seems no one but those on reddit and those who have been watching Wuhan and other places closely actually took any of this seriously|0 My last ambulance ride was I think 1750 Hospital is 5 miles away If it isnt at least nearly life threatening Im not going to the doctorhospital Healthcare here sucks|0 Downtime yes A dumbed down page for 2 days no You put your new code on your DR server Do sanity test and switch the dns to point to DR and then bring down the primary to update the code on the primary Bring it up and let it run as the DR server Takes less than 5 minutes to switch DNS|0 Someone please hold mehttpsmediagiphycommedial0IypeKl9NJhPFMrKgiphygif|1 His wife is pregnant Poor woman Poor baby I hope his child knows one day that his dad was considered a hero for simply trying to spread the truth Such a shame|0 Its based on confirmed cases only But South Korea is testing an insane amount of people By now theyve tested nearly 270k people with only about 8400 cases Furthermore theyve seen a significant decrease in new cases as of recently So we can be reasonably sure that there arent any missed infectees spreading the virus So their data should closely match realityThis is also why their deathrate is so low compared to other countries For example if we exclude China and South Korea the worldwide CFR is closer to 57 The difference being from undetected cases flying under the radar|0 they could stop people flying in from quarantined zonesNo one is flying in from quarantined zones By definition If they are under quarantine they are not getting on a flight out of the quarantine they could advise that anyone who can work from homeA press conference was held today and the main point that came out of it was that the UK is not at the stage where the timing is right to ask people to take those kinds of measures as people will become fatigued with what they are asked to be doing and will stop doing it and that could happen at point where the virus is far more widespread than it currently is Timing was heavily emphasised That all the measures you have mentioned are in the pipeline but deploying them at the right time is key and doing it too early could be counter productive Not my words but the medical experts who leading the UKs response|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Just remember the operative word is survivor Youre still here You can survive this too|1 its not worse than normal Its about normal for this timeline in the regular flu season The kind of death rate you see in COVID19 would certainly push the overall mortality rate for overall flupneumonia over the epidemic threshold if it was widespread in the US because SARSCoV2 is a lot more lethal than regular influenza AInfluenza hospitalizations have also been following a normal pattern from before COVID19 could have been a problem in the US|0 I love them so much and will be devastated if they get sick My parents arent in the picture my grandpa is the only father figure I have Fox News turned his brain into a hardboiled egg but he still thinks I hung the moon and I love him|1 Why wait are you writing out a long paragraph to agree with me That was my point that those age ranges are the only ones that may fair better with it than the flu|1 But who implemented engaging in a trade war with China Who replaced NAFTA Who gave companies incentive that brought production of certain goods to the United States|1 Distinction without a difference in the context of mobilizing them to help on the assumption that they are immune|1 There were two deaths over the weekend as well as numerous states with first cases and the markets were still soaring all day today|1 Where is the 20102011 graph that you meantion to compare it with It feels like you cant draw any conclusions with this graph yet except that flulike hospitalizations have been increasing every year for the past 10 years|1 Some ppl want to Some ppl dont want to but choose to either for lack of other opportunities or a good paycheck And no I still dont think its anyones responsibility to risk their lives for a job since they can always quit But imagine if you really dont want to tend to the infected but will lose your job unless you do it sucks man|0 Good news|1 While there are companies that make masks and oxygen systems in the US you need to look at where they get their components from as well It is not uncommon for raw components for systems to be sourced from other countries like China|1 You cant just invent your own versions or definitions for words It doesnt work that way Panic is already definedpanic1 panik noun a sudden overwhelming fear with or without cause that produces hysterical or irrational behavior and that often spreads quickly through a group of persons or animalsSource httpswwwdictionarycombrowsepanichttpswwwdictionarycombrowsepanicEdit fixed typo|0 Stock the store only before openings and closings Only allow the self checkout lines And a 10 foot stick to keep everyone away from you when asking questions|1 Trump said at a presser this morning they will be giving everyone not millionaires and billionaires tho a thousand dollars in the next two weeks with reevaluation as needed So at least its not nothing Theyve also pretty much prevented the entire economy from freefalling into oblivion so far its still tanking but holy hell without the recent pumps we would actually be looking at a collapse of society|0 He didnt mean treatments for people already infected will improve he meant societywide efforts to eradicate or reduce the transmission of the virus will improve because the environmental conditions for it to spread are less advantageous for the virus|1 Thats also one person in all of Germany If the people insisting that THE VIRUS HAS BROKEN CONTAINMENT ITS EVERYWHERE are right there should be far more|0 Where did you get that number fromChina has a population at least 4 times greater than us and their death count is under 5k The virus has been attacking China for the better part of 16 weeks and they dont even have 600000 infectionsThis is just mindless hysteria|0 Source for that I remember a few days ago hearing that 60 people were being monitored across 22 states Why would they be monitoring those people if they werent suspected to have been infected by a confirmed patient|0 Stop upvoting CCP propaganda ffs|0 Is he about to join the Wuhan Clan|1 You mean CNN MSNBC and Snopes Because all of them said its just the flu just a couple weeks ago|0 Interesting article and to me it explains a lot of what Ive seen not just in China but in Vietnam as well The western quality standards are really high and I dont see a way to start applying them to regular life in SEA without some major hurdles|1 And the current Senate is going to do so many great and wonderful things to protect the American people|1 I suppose Jebus is also punishing all the kids in the local cancer ward|0 I have a satinlined cloth one Ive been wearing for nearly two weeks now Nobody once has laughed at me Conference bus london underground streets sainsburys Now Ive been self isolated since Weds as two people at the conference QConLondon were tested positive two days after the event ended As pretty much the oly person at the conference in a mask I feel I may have evaded getting it|1 People in general arent responsible like you|0 As a 27 yr old No it doesnt Lol|0 Fresh infected meat wooo boi still the incompetent blonde haired cock sucker wont close schools despite children being great carriers of the coronavirus|0 This may be a totally naive response as Im not aware of the details of your situation but do you possess other skills you could put to use to bring in income after the shutdown Even if it meant you shuttered your brewery for a few months after this blows over and work elsewhere to get enough cash to jumpstart your operation again would that be feasible|0 Honestly if its just like the flu and not that serious then why should people take quarantine seriously Its very disruptive to ones life and most have no real reason to believe the actual virus would be|0 And I guess all the college and universities are somehow safe right s|1 Would I be able to chat with you over PM Im very interested in this and almost went into IT before becoming a pilot I want to be home more with my son I would really like to know how one can do this from someone with real world experience I prefer working by myself|1 we are 4 months into this virus stop your bullshit|0 If you really want a laugh find some images of it |1 My reply was to the comment saying how South Korea is a model for civilization Taiwan has taken over 100 different actions to protect itself from outbreak Im not sure what they are using for testing but their organization in prevention should be a model for other countries|1 Im hoping Andrew Yang or someone that shares ideals will be picking up that torch|1 I hope this EPA list has not been created by a bureaucrat cross referencing and creating it to be helpful but after actual testing against Covid 19|1 Youd need to understand reading a balance sheet and cash flow analysis Public companies dont want too much cash on hand to placate investors who expect them to be reinvesting for growth You dont park the cash earning 2 when you can grow sales 2 with that moneyTake American Airlines for Q4 2019 for instance they had an operating income of 16B then another 23B of income from depreciation amortization plus other fancy accounting to arrive at 38B net cash Their debt service alone cost 426B Planes are expensive can you afford one To have a fleet means you incurred tons of debt Debts dont go away even in a coronavirus crisis so now they need to continue to service the 426B quarterly debt without the income They supposedly have 38B cash on hand Thatll last them less than one quarterVery few companies operate themselves in a way to be prepared for doomsday scenarios unless theyre ran by a board of doomsdayprepping lunatics You cant prep for flights basically getting grounded across the globe for 3 months|0 I mean the traffic in LA would certainly get better|1 LA had all the same concerns but they still made the right choice Maybe they need to call and give some friendly advice|1 Sure but that is just one place of work What happens when its the people working in the supermarkets gas stations or everyone else living paycheck to paycheck who suddenly have to stay home because schools cancel|0 What happened to the quarantine Surely the quarantine should apply to all individuals in the affected area at least until the exact vector of transmission has been pinned down|1 Happens in jail tooEdit the talkingI dont know about the singing but Im sure that happens sometimes too|1 Im not if the supplies theyre giving out for food like the ones I saw on Twitter are true then theres no way everyone is getting enough to eat which could cause food riots and theyre gonna be forced to reopen factories eventually which would cause a massive infection spike Theyre also gonna get cases imported from other nations like Italy or South Korea which will continue their current rate of spread|1 Please continue to maximize social exposure to encourage its spread|1 Inst that an indication that nothing is happening you would have seen tons of respiratory cases in Florida otherwiseHear me out for a second South Korea has been testing tons of its population they have tested 180000 people so far they have found 7313 people infected 36 are critical condition 50 deadThat shows that critical condition rate is 05 and death ration is 06 much tinier than believed If we add the fact that scientists and experts say it has been spreading for weeks already we can assume tons of people already had it or have it with mild symptoms|0 This we are physical beings No matter of your will or sentiment will change anything we are not in an Anime or The Secret movie I would say 40 days sounds like a more reasonable amount of time to quarantine and change the most likely to most definitely at least before getting happy Sure she won the fight but the war isnt over yet|0 surgical mask dont have much protection from particulates and have open holes around your face and doesnt create a seal they are meant to prevent people that are sick from getting other people sick people wear these thinking that they protect them and let it get to their head and are less careful n95 mask dont block 95 unless fitted properly and often times doesnt work for children i dont agree with the way their handling the Dont wear mask because gas mask and half face gasmask will protect you from all particulates if the filter is rated p3 or p100|0 Freedom to infect who I want when I want|1 His point is that social controls prudent leadership and logistics are more important than health insurance in this instance|1 Im so sorry |0 True dat I used to spend time on the hill scary place|0 The SARS thing was under specific really messed up circumstances that dont naturally occur The SARS mass infection event was because of a giant fuck up|0 shut up ffs|0 Wait What the actual fuckSo if I feel that I have the symptoms and was in Italy a week back and give a call to the authorities they expect me to payAnd what if I dont have the money Bloody hell|0 As an American working in health care I agree|1 I live in Alaska There are absolutely cases here but the CDC is acting like a child and going La la la Cant hear you when cases are being reported My boss husband went to the doctor at the beginning of the week His doctor told him that the week before there had been a positive tested patient there and when he tried to report it the CDC didnt want to hear it|1 Seems like everywhere banned the sale due to price gouging|0 what is lost can never be saved|0 Of course youre correct I spoke too hastily to express my frustration with public policy Your links are helpful at showing the treatment advances physicians are able to take advantage of thanks to experiences of other countries|1 Yes My friend just told me he had a better chance of getting hit by lightning than getting this He travels a lot too|1 Who would winThe leader of the free world backed by a Congress of yesmen and supported unflinchingly by his votersOr 1 blobby boi|1 Well stocked up there sir|1 Thats true but the initial pneumonia is caused by the virus not bacteria|1 Thats not really a quarantine if you can get out of your home If using Chinas example you are forced inside your home and you may or may not get deliveries because delivery people are also kept in their home etc Or you are allowed to get out once per day for few hours to pick up necessities Thats a mandatory quarantine more than just not be able to leave your city or state People think staying in their home is easy because they have the option not to When that option is taken away its not as easy as you think|1 Time watching mainstream media over the last 2 months ZEROYe thats good in german Main stream media specially TV we are dead since weeks also doomed as humankind and more|0 You believe in a fictional version of Bill Gates I suspect youre too young to remember how he actually made his money|0 I truly despise that man|1 Ive made a list of all the things we couldve done but didnt do and it doesnt include shooting And yes containing it isnt possible But slowing it down is and that should be our goal so that the hospitals wont be crowded all at once and will be able to treat more people Also some of the things we did we did too late and badly Like putting the north into quarantine only now that the virus has gotten to every other region and letting people know about it ahead of time resulting in a mass escape toward the south|1 Grade A stupid Who wrote it The doctor from Family Guy|0 I had pneumonia after swine flu nearly killed me Took a long time to recover and I have had quite a few bouts of bronchitis and infections since which have been not much fun either|0 If there was someone I would trust to help with this its the man who helped almost wipe Polio from the face of the Earth|1 The Armed Forces cancelled all planned exercises What your cousin saw was units returning to their bases|0 One other issue is that the country is not in full lockdown yet People still go to their offices or work partly from home a lot of companies are introducing AB teams now In a country where most kids are either in public schools or daycare it would be a big problem to close schools and other childcare facilities because kids would in the end be spending the day with their grandparents who are the most vulnerable part of our societies Closing schools only works when the whole country is in lockdown like Italy right now|0 I agree that many people in the US probably already have the contravirus more than the public may think However without looking at a source I would guess those were 33 highrisk individuals|1 I wouldnt say just as susceptible Many places in China still monitor people exiting and entering their homes with temperature scanners people register when going into shops buying food at outdoor markets using public transportation etc If new cases do emerge they should be able to retrace the patients steps and create a fairly comprehensive list of people to check on who might have been in contact with them|1 Its almost like China tried to tell the world exactly what would happen in excruciating detail and all the world could muster was lol China lies sometimes|0 I live in Utah so its great that I can perfectly see that state in this image|1 Yep something like thisTo me 1 is the important step Make sure you have the situation under control with a good margin of safety to win some time Further plans can come later when youre sure that you havent overloaded the hospitals|1 They go to the hospital They will get treated and then get stuck with a hopelessly large debt that they can never pay off When they are released they will likely find an eviction note on their door|0 Just like the old Peaches Herb song Too much too little too late |1 I would say move to Seattle because nobody would bat an eye here but might not be best at the moment|0 why do they Hug|1 I see you might be from Netherlands Please follow guidance from your local officials httpswwwrivmnlennovelcoronaviruscovid19questionsandanswershttpswwwrivmnlennovelcoronaviruscovid19questionsandanswers|1 Theyre much better off than we are in the US with a web of totally uncoordinated private healthcare systems in every state|1 Good luck with your research Just filled it out myself|1 problem is that cross border workers were still allowed to come and go from italy|0 Vast majority of the population of NorCal are in the Bay Area not the rest It looks like its from Solano County which is technically an outer Bay Area county VallejoBenicia in that county are core Bay Area|1 I think theres a freeze on evictions due to covid19 give 311 a call to verify|1 yeah many many daycares have individually elected to close but unfortunately it has not yet been mandated by government|0 Damn too bad all these supplies will get wasted trying to save them|0 Sciencemagorg literally misinformation slanted to push an agendaMight as well cite Vox or Salon lol|1 7 THOUSAND deductible What the actual fuckI am annoyed by my deductible in the UK and it is 250 and i pay 300 a month in premium for me and my partner across the whole continent jeez guys your health system is fucked up|0 No but 99 have herpes|0 Doing this seems INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS but these NYC threads continue with comments saying but the kids getting meals As though no other examples exist|0 If you need to self quarantine you should 100 separate from high risk family members Its as simple as staying in a separate room Its stupid to test asymptomatic people when there arent enough tests This is why we are doing social distancing and lockdowns to prevent asymptomatic people from spreading the virus as much as possibleI get what youre saying I do In a perfect world we would test literally everyone But the reality is there arent enough tests That is the answer to every one of your questions and scenarios There arent enough tests and we need to reserve them for where they are needed most|0 Oh thank god Are those national roads or motorways though|1 This basically comes down to how the risk to the population of not fasttracking the vaccine is perceived to be The different trial phases for drugs a good explanation is herehttpswwwcancerresearchukorgaboutcancerfindaclinicaltrialwhatclinicaltrialsarephasesofclinicaltrials for cancer drugs but is the same for all pharmaceuticals and treatments are essentially a safety measure You first try the pharmaceuticaltreatment on a small number of people to see if it a it works b it has any side effects c it works significantly better than other options available d how it works dosage etc how long it needs to be taken for etc This is Phase I If it seems to be okay on a small group of patients its given to a bigger group in Phase II and then a bigger group again in Phase III Its a good idea to leave a decent break sometimes years between Phases in case side effects arent immediate In a very serious pandemic the risk of administering a drug that might have side effects has to be weighed against the risk of not administering it at all if nothing else is available That might lead to more risks willing to be taken and the speed at which the drug moves through the phases to be speeded up Experimental drugs are often tested on patients for whom everything else has failed so that it the drug does have harmful sideeffects they would have died anyway so it hasnt made things worse For a vaccine this would be a scenario where containment measures werent working and case fatality rate was extremely high Id estimate it would need to be much higher than SARSCov2 seems to be at present In the 201415 Ebola outbreak vaccine development ended up being hampered by the fact that by the time the vaccines were ready for trial the outbreak was beginning to peter out and there werent enough cases any more for it to be considered safe to vaccinate a population that might no longer be at much risk of infectionPenicillin the first massproduced antibiotic was rushed through like this during WWII when there were large numbers of soldiers with in particular burn injuries who would have died anyway without it As it turned out a reasonably high proportion of people are allergic to penicillin probably enough that under normal circumstances it might never have been licensed but the need was pressing and it got throughSo not impossible in dire circumstances but I think were a long way from that yet|0 If this was linked to a press release Id be more inclined Look its a no win for them here They give nothing you kill them for being greedy They give a couple mil and they are chastised for being cheap Maybe they should ask reddit for the proper amount Also depending on the charity which it looks like is their own charity its not necessarily tax deductible People like to ring there arms at these companies but this might be the case of hey they did good They give you plenty on a daily basis you can yell at them for If we only yell we are giving no incentive for them to do good in the future|1 And it will continue to decrease going forward Again not saying it is a nothing burger just saying there is no reason to panic|0 I know but it was like 2 am and I was so tired Im joining now tho|0 Coronavirus So the CDC wont let me be or let me be me so let me seethey try to shut me down with a quarantine but it feels so empty without me|0 I get that and i would feel so terrible for most athletes you might MIGHT be able to compete in two olympics thats 8 years Peak physical years dont last much past that for most I mean peak olympics level depending on the sport My concern is given the option for a once in a lifetime opportunity i think a ton would want to go But the dangerous part is when its over and millions of people fly back to basically every country on the planet and no country is safe Kicking the virus into overdriveI think if possible they should move them Have a bavk up thats already held the olympics in the last twelve year and thinks they could manage Or postpone until the fall Cancelling would be devastating but understandable after other options and the medical community weighs in|0 My Kroger had restocked toilet paperpaper towelstissues this morningand milk and bleach and potatoes and onions The TP was gone by 11am but the fact that stuff had been restocked was reassuring|1 How many people have they tested Thats about how many are in my state and its much colder In my town which is the coldest in the state we dont even have confirmed cases Probably because we arent testing efficiently But still|0 My family owns a campsite way out in the mountains A campsite that is surrounded now by vacation cabins that in times of emergency I will not have moral qualms appropriating|0 It is to the best of our knowledge not possible Reinfections have been chalked up to false negatives and treatment with antivirals beating it before the body could create its own immune responseEDIT not possible immediately NHS suggests that immunity will last at least through this endemic period and into any possible resurgence around September Beyond that though is anyones guess|1 The company itself or Twitter users If its the company itself tracking people down illegally we shouldnt be applauding that|0 There are two sentences there and they are both correct|1 I was planning on getting married in 7 weeks Been watching and waiting since theres nothing we can do but this is certainly going to hurt in a lot of different ways|0 Texas puts most of its West Texas Oil money into the endowments of the University of Texas and Texas AM There is a reason why they are universities with Endowments on Par with Ivy League schools top 10 in country|1 Tape the vents and crack the windows when the time comes Stay safe|1 This guy is the king of saying things that arent well thought out You cant just tell people they have to waive rent income|0 What will be done What is the plan Is it that theres literally nothing that can be done since theres no extra ventilators or rooms Ive been looking for an easy way out if I get turned down from hospital not wanting to die slow and painful death|0 So refugees in syria are believed to be affected much faster|0 And then what stick it in your pocket Seems like barely an improvement|1 Ok and this makes it less serious because It doesnt affect you Ah gotcha|1 Thank you for sharing OP These notes from others in more severe situations really help frame the situation for meus|1 Planes are going to start falling out of the sky|0 We are in summer season but somehow this year it doesnt seem like summer at all Its much less hot than it usually is and its raining almost everyday|0 UK is trying to pretend that they only need to wash hands more often and all their troubles wash away with that|0 I asked in another post and Ill ask here again how did they get tested so quickly with mild symptoms when the Australian public is getting the runaround and delay tacticshttpwwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar10australiangovernmentswarnpublicservicesmaystruggleascoronavirusspreadsQuote At the moment we are not recommending that general members of the community with acute respiratory symptoms colds flu and the like be tested|0 lol I dont mind Its a good way to learn if Im full of shit At least if I dont have a reliable source which I dont here No idea where I heard this some coronavirus video on youtube no doubt but I heard it somewhere|0 Also if anyone knows where to find Rachel Ray dry dog food in Baldwin county AL please let me know Its the only one that doesnt break my dog out in hivesThe Dollar General I shop at in West Mobile carries it Id check the dollar stores near you|1 How did they get all the tests Other states have basically no tests|0 They your kids out ofschool asap Theyre using the kids to spread it cause they dont show symptoms but can pass it to your elderly people like grandparents and they wont survive itplease wake up uk|1 Almost no medical testing works immediately If you get a CoV infection there will absolutely be a delay between infection and a positive test The length of delay varies and I dont know what it is but highly likely longer than a day I know that my data point was speculative but it isnt science fiction That kind of thing does happen in realitySomeone posted a great video of a guy from Wuhan in the sub The video seems legit to me Can I verify it No Not everything will be verifiable in a situation like this especially when China lies like crazy blocks internet access and takes down content ASAP|1 Also very interested in this|1 should freeze mortgage payments|1 Thats what top epidemic expert Dr Richard Hatchett was trying to hint at in his great Channel 4 interviewhttpsyoutubedcJDpVigjs when he said its possible the virus could become endemic and has the potential to stay with us in perpetuity Everyone needs to watch this interview|1 I have quite a lit chest pain and no history of it I am really worried|0 Yes per CDC most cases of SARS almost all developed pneumonia whereas 80 of covid19 cases are mild|1 Maybe she just died from his bad acting|0 Well I can only speak for my area but in Denver the Catholic Church has been pretty accepting of science at least as far as heeding CDC advice cancelling all church functions halting all masses removing holy water etc Even when Mass was still going on all points that involved human interaction shaking hands passing the offering basket communion etc had either been stopped or altered to be more hygienic But certainly Im sure other churches in other places might not have been as proactive or accepting|1 The world will change a lot I fear for the worse Global trade will diminish More people will become poor and poor people will hard time breaking out|0 Lol|1 Oh for sure I feel like we will never know the extent of this|1 Should be renamed Kung Flu|0 I mean at least if its only one group there should be barely anyone there so they can isolate themselves somewhat at work|0 Well it depends on where it will be Id still go Im still traveling for work Its all about risk tolerance Plus thats still a few months away Im young and healthy Id go That doesnt mean its the best choice for you however|1 Pathetic|0 That may be true for some places because Singapores grandest hotel and mall actually apply this method blocking most of the entrances and exits so that everyone is funneled through a manned checkpoint with infrared thermometers but local government have welded chained up doors of entire buildings I have watched these videos and I understand what theyre saying as I speak ChineseIn some cases the doors that are chained shut have to be unlocked by people who may not be near the apartment at all Can you imagine what if there was an emergency or a fireQuarantine is Singapore is simply not comparable to the ones in China thats all Im saying|0 And how futile it is to ask 2 or 3 theme parks in the USA to pretty please shut down for a few weeks As if all the other forms of massgathering arent a problem|1 Nothing for the nordic countries Guess they really didnt like that satire drawing in a random newspaper|0 Outside of becoming ill from the coronavirus lets say youre in a serious automobile accident and require critical care there may not be an ICU bed for you Lets say you have a massive heart attack go to the cardiac catheterization lab to have a procedure and the doctor sees you could use 11 observation ie your own personal nurse in the ICU But there are no beds in the ICU Thats inconvenient youll get sent to a unit with a nurse who has 34 maybe 5 other patients to care for Better hope your nurse is experienced and attentive Lets say you develop stroke symptoms and require monitoring in the ICU but oh no beds available Again you get sent to a unit with a busy nurse who maybe misses the fact youre extending your stroke your symptoms are worsening but youre to sick to even make this known Now you have permanent paralysis Your loved ones could die You could die These are the ways the coronavirus could effect you|0 This is the first pandemic I can think of which has such economic impact In order for America to fix itself Would require businesses to legitimately shut down And the havoc on Wall Street is only starting Restaurants in only the most progressive of cities and states are shut down|0 Yes theres rapports here of a 19 year old in the hospital not able to breath by himself So many people under 30 think it wont harm them at all because they eat some lettuce and work out once a week|1 Yea sounds like a big excuse to grab peoples property Nah That could never happen here Oh wait|1 Weve spun up several more production lines here but the reality is you cant just retool immediately We exported most of our manufacturing so people could save a buck its collectively our cultures fault our supply chains fault our hospitals and governments fault x200BBut enough with propoganda bullshit as far as i can tell people like you seem to be the ones spreading propoganda|0 Exactly Most americans I know are good people but many are blinded by politics and propaganda of their imperialistic government|0 Hmmm not good related to the cult via a funeral somebody disband this cult already|0 I think this year beating coronavirus is a bigger win|1 Its happening whether we root for it or not we dont Were rooting for people to wake the fuck up and do something about it|0 I really dont understand how it can be possible But maybe its because Im from Europe Maybe what you eat influence your shitsDo you shit 3 times a day or is it messy enough that you have to wipe 5 times every time |0 That quote isnt about COVID19 its about the SARS 2003 outbreak It was determined the patient was only briefly in the ER They infected other patients and staff some of whom died So there was a thorough investigation after|0 Airstrip One open for businessWeve always been at war with Euraisa or whoever|0 Me too small world lol|1 Nice to see some good news too not just spreading the panic Btw have you guys bought enough toilet paper|1 I thought dividends were supposed to encourage people to hang on to stocks and that they increased market stability I agree with the move to not pay the majority shareholders any of that relief money but will this increase their market volatility|1 Yep Got the elderly parents too I just want to be able to HAVE another baby Is my main worry I feel like one of those people cooking with Teflon before they came out and said oh yea that was poison sorry|0 Corona party All those people have it now|1 No some resettled community like Deer Harbour maybe Or Ferrys Cove|1 Awesome Keep it up Ill be a week behind you |1 And your name is actually pub and you dont know how to avoid yourself|0 Couldnt agree with you more Judging by their declining numbers SK is exactly the model we should be following|0 Dude youre retarded change my mindhttptestmensano|0 Theres some feral bunnies in my neighborhood Might be time to learn how to set a snare Ill leave the raccoons alone|0 The NYT didnt offer any hard evidence though they cited residents no photos no first hand reportsJudging by the NYTs atrocious Tesla and EV reporting they are rather hit and miss in terms of journalistic quality |0 Youre going to get downvoted for suggesting it but this straight up OP of the comment has gone from educating themselves to straight up hyper paranoia and its gonna end up hurting them in the long run if they keep it up Its one thing to be prepared and wary but its an entirely different thing to be on red alert 110 of the time|1 As a healthcare worker I give all my love to coffee store baristas and employees You are keeping the healthcare workers running Hope all of you who work at Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts or local coffee place understand how important your role is in this pandemic Seriously|1 Wow thats an amazing story behind the name Spooky anagram coincidence|1 Thank you for sharing this Ive wondered when we would start to hear stories like this coming outIm not an economist uninformed speculation follows but it seems that one of the effects of globalization is a form of centralization All the product of widget X goes to the country that can produce it cheapest Not only do other countries stop making widget X but over time they also lose the expertiseinfrastructure on how to produce it If the producing country shuts down or container ships from it are interrupted painThis is all awful but Im interested to see how our economy adapts to this development|0 The key point here is that on Jan 15 it was still being actively covered up by China and the 41 reported cases are irrelevant All indications now suggest at least 100x that number had been infected by that time in WuhanSo he wasnt really that unlucky|0 Is joke People are saying the flu kills more people overall yet we are only in the onset of this thing Proactive measures and overreacting is the best thing right now Of course guns strokes and disease have no correlation but people are starting to use those type of things to push agendas|1 Impressive and refreshing to see|1 Yes Singapore is a good indicator of how well conventional measures will work for other cities It has amongst the highest population density in the world but also a very competent administration and highly educated population and would be able to carry out the necessary processes to high standardsIf SG fails to contain it then I doubt any other cities can|0 Fried chicken is so popular in China|1 Honestly quit now before your job is declared essential and youre forced to risk your life for minimum wage|0 The crazy part is that even if the flu kills more people every year a country of 14B doesnt shut itself down on a whim when it runs the global economy It has to be bad enough to merit this kind of draconian action These people are absolutely ignorant of any kind of implications|0 I did give it a lot of shaking after mixing I think I got the wrong kind of Aloe gel because it was clear and not seemingly green at all Thanks for the heads up on colour|1 I live near flushing if it was real we would have heard from neighbors faster then it could be posted Smells like BS|1 Oh yes thats absolutely our problem not enough new cars A month lapse in production of new cars and well run out of cars right away|1 Its so hypocritical I dont get itEdit Theyre closed now except for takeoutdelivery Nobody saw this coming|0 Green Shield has already announced theyre not covering charges due to Covid19 outside of Canada since the govt has told people not to travel internationally|1 Wow what is wrong with this subredditHe basically has the flu but more dangerous if passed on to an older ill citizen Its up to him if he wants to stay quarantinedThis Coronavirus is getting out of hand You guys on here and everyone else line you are making the situation more dangerous than the actual virus|0 Well people should stop going out Buisnesses should close yea Or we want to spread it|1 Voice of sanity here I live in the Midwest and my wife works in pulmonology for a major healthcare provider There have test kits protocols and are in fact testing when a patient meets the criteria She looks at the panels for every patient that comes in and has seen patients that have been tested All negative so far Where is this crap coming from that no testing is going on They test for a lot worse diseases than corona virus Her entire office shut down a few months ago when a TB patient came in without telling anyone they had a positive for TB The doctor and nurse had to be quarantined for 2 weeks It was a mess For now I think there is some over reaction going on For now|0 Yup NHC is still reporting provinces herehttpsncovdxycnncovh5viewpneumonia If you cant understand Chinese just add a translator extension to your browser and you can see the breakdown by city BNO just got lazy and decided to lump the rest of the provinces together|0 I wonder if the headache wasnt caused by dehydration if it could have been that you actually werent getting as much oxygen as usual I get wicked bad headaches with altitude sickness due to decreased oxygen|0 I did see it but I havent seen very many polyphenols or anything really make mice 100 resistant to EBOV and VSVEBOV challenge at high viral inoculation doses It seems to be a bit more than thatThat said yes it could be a fluke but any PAINS related assay interference isnt the mechanism by which this seems effective and it just might be the case that failure in clinical trials is due to low and variable bioavailability which the researchers claim to have paliated due to more optimal glycosyaltionAlso a lot of the trials in the link you provided were either phase I or not completed or even beganOf course there is a high likelihood this wont work in humans but it doesnt seem to me like of the quercetin does everything studies|1 I wasnt going at you as much as the person you responded to by saying the ignorance of some people is disgustinglike how about the fact that theres millions of other things going on in peoples lives that we cant worry about 1k people getting the fluCant blame people for not knowing|0 Maybe now Mexico will actually pay for the wall|0 While we are used to work with infections we also arent perfect and the risk of infection is still there Especially with something as aggressive as COVID19 We also do have to think about our patients and the staff itself since we dont have much room to distance us from our coworkers Not to mention that hospitals are usually heavily understaffed especially when it comes to nurses and going through every measure that is used to prevent infections the whole time can get really tiring very fast in such an environment which will lead to more mistakes and a burned out staff Admittedly I recently switched from a hospital to a retirement home but everyone single one within our staff who shows symptoms is encouraged to stay at home even though it is really hard on the team Its easy to say that hospitals have to keep working or mortality will skyrocket but it is actually a very hard situation for those who work in this environment Its also an argument that often does get used to morallyemotionally blackmail nurses and other hospital staff into going to work when they are sick or to keep them from striking among other things So I would like to encourage others to not make such statements even if it is factual trueNow what they apparently are doing here in Germany is that they close everything that isnt essential when it comes to hospitals Partly to stop the spread but also to have more staff in areas that really have to deal with COVID19 Its also rumored that certain areas that are usually used for other things will be somewhat repurposed to acute stations Thats at least what some of the nurses and the psychologists in a local psychiatry told us Pretty much everyone who is somewhat semistable from the patients do get released more like send home until the end of the week and some next week The thing is though that even patients who arent really stable enough and those who dont really have a home they can return to yet do also get released until next week They only keep the worst of the worst and dont even know yet what will happen to them Its something that will probably be decided this or next weekFor the healthcare system and those who work in it especially in the hospitals its more than just a tough situation its a nightmare from every point of view|0 3m 6000 series half maskGoogle it Safety supplies shop near you|1 Confirmed cases really dont mean much once you have community transmission Its here its lethal and you should stay inside until further notice Trust your gut and instincts not numbers from a system thats under resourced|1 No way of knowing if there was no other asymptomatic spreaders on the bus and that was likely the case as this happened late January and it was spreading unchecked at that time in China|0 Whether or not you agree with universal healthcare is a different issue entirely but there isnt a medical system on earth that can handle 10 of their population to require ICU in a short period of time|0 Those numbers are a little misleading Everyone can get it and it spreads like wildfire but only people who are immunocompromised will have serious complications or die from itThe problem is somebody in their 30s gets it has a bad pneumonia and then gets better but if they are out and about theyve spread it to other surfaces and other places where someone immunity compromised can be infected and then have serious complications|0 We already are I hate it here|0 My poor health says yes|0 To answer your question of who was hired to do the US testingFrom the IntelligencerIn May 2018 Trump orderedhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180510topwhitehouseofficialinchargeofpandemicresponseexitsabruptly the NSCs entire global health security unit shut down calling for reassignment of Rear Adm Timothy Ziemer and dissolution of his team inside the agency The month before thenWhite House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressuredhttpswwwwashingtonpostcompoliticswhitehousehomelandsecurityadviserresignsamidcontinuedturnoverintrumpadministration2018041015db518a3ccb11e8a7d1e4efec6389f0storyhtmlutmterm2d2315c28d3atidlkinlinemanual9 Ziemers DHS counterpart Tom Bossert to resign along with his team Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced The global health section of the CDChttpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180201cdctocutby80percenteffortstopreventglobaldiseaseoutbreak was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10 Meanwhile throughout 2018 the US Agency for International Development and its director Mark Green came repeatedly under firehttpswwwdevexcomnewswhitehouseopensnewfrontinwaronusaidbudget93310mkttokeyJpIjoiWXpNeFpEaG1ZbU5rT0dNNCIsInQiOiJka0JEdVNGY1FIM2hhTzZkUVpNNmdSOEdVWEk2RVFyVkltN0JuWUlRdTZpRFhPdFBYS0lGUFZhQ2F1K0FuOWxMOSs4TkRlc1h3QW1xeWt4a3NLMTFQcWhTM20xaXpndGVUNnpCVGRaNjg1ZnVEalpvT0ptcU5cL2lGeEdtTlpYdVMifQ3D3Dutmcampaignnewswireutmmediumemailutmsourcenewsletter from both the White HousehttpskhnorgnewsreligiousconservativestiestotrumpofficialspayoffinaidspoliciesfundingutmcampaignKHN3A20First20Editionutmsourcehsemailutmmediumemailutmcontent65367866hsencp2ANqtz1qQIODfqXazw2GSe4Qlnu7d7Jc08ArhvTSjMcfEEdcLTKmuOlEFhK6ZZZADKjsPSM7SLOz15tkBmI9Ziu7bkAQpExQVDONqf4rZUMPool0bIhsmi65367866 and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percenthttpswwwwashingtonpostcompoliticswhitehouseannouncesproposedrevampoffederalgovernmentincludingaconsolidationofsocialsafetynetprograms2018062164fdb8ca756a11e89780b1dd6a09b549storyhtml the diseasefighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplacedtldr Trump fired the leadershipentire team in charge of pandemic response and left the positions unfilled while also slashing funding to the CDC|0 We cant stop it but the attempt to slow it so it doesnt oveerwhelm us Like Wuhan could have taken place|0 Disneyland Paris is already running low on Merchandise stock|0 Because we know what resources we have If we free up all electives we could access 5000 ventilators 5000 ventilators x 365 gives 182 million days off ventilators Most patients who need them need them at least 8 days A capacity of 18 million means we can cover just under 230000 patients a year or 6330 a day So if we stay under 6330 new patients a day to reach 60 of the population 396 million it would take 6255 days or 17 years working at full capacity We should be aiming to keep the number of infections as low as possibleEdit this is the governments own modelling showing even if we only give intensive care to under 40s and we assume only 40 get infected and only 5 need ICU we still cant flatten the curve enough httpsimgurcomaxhxKWGK|0 My hospital is running low on masks because they are on backorder People buying masks they dont need are hurting the supply chain The guy wearing a mask in Walmart might be preventing himself from getting sick but it will become a problem when the surgeon has no mask to wear in surgery|0 Has to be said if youve tried and been unsuccessful try again today Dont give up until youve been tested then continue to isolate until you get the results|0 Poor leadership is what Im thinking too If poorer countries can test more than us its must be something else else at play|0 Also you know when the hurricane is coming more or less You dont know how bad it will be exactly but you know its not going to be here for a month You know you need food for 2 weeks we now could need food for months|1 I have a very very very odd feeling this will pass Even though On paper this should never pass in America I feel like instead of artificially stimulating the economy this will be a healthier way to reduce damageThe govt injecting cash doesnt seem like a better option when Americans could take that and use it|1 If youre gonna make such bold statements back them up with evidenceI counter with MASKS DO WORKhttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh4usohttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh4uso plenty of studies for you to read up on there|1 Excuse my lack of brain cells but is that just like a general touching device and the lighter there to burn any residual bacteria that might be on the touching end|1 Depending on your area that might be important Nothing worse than urgently opening the porta potty at your staging location after a 20oz black coffee and a long night of nachos and beer just to find a cyanotic heroin addict with no pants but with a slow thready pulse All you wanted to do was get those nachos out but now youre calling backup and jamming a narcan sprayer in a pantsless dudes nose in a porta potty and pinching your cheeks trying to pull it back Never undervalue a good lockAnyway thanks for being out there|1 I dont complain about the Argentine hemorrhagic fever its not racism China is just trying to not be the responsible for ANOTHER epidemic|1 You say like that is only happening on pornhub Content moderation is really fucking hard at that amount Thats why YouTube has prolly more than 10x the amount of child porn pornhub has You arent gonna call them out eh|1 Im very aware of that and I know Im lucky|1 oh yes go help your community and make sure it spreads By trying to help you are screwing your community This is contagious before symptoms present a fact that they have neglected to tell people and has been confirmed by China South Korea Japan Italy and several other places There is a minimum 2 day incubation period so at LEAST 2 days someone can be walking around without symptoms getting people sick It is airborne confirmed by China and Italy fecal with gas coming from it able to cary it confirmed by China the CDC and basically every country it can survive on smooth metal surfaces for up to 9 days and they dont know how long on shit like cardboard but I would bet even longer it has asymptomatic carriers confirmed by China Italy and South Korea and can be transmitted by the standard coughing and sneezing Thats not even getting into the fact that the CDC is using Chinas blatantly false numbers which include pneumonia as a LIGHT symptom ya know the same pneumonia that permanently damages your lungs and fills them with a gray glue like phlegm So no dont go help your neighbors stay the fuck at home|0 Youre either trolling or actually retarded if you believe the words you just typed|0 Ive heardread numerous comments from Americans that it cant happen here because we have modern healthcare They think every other country in the world is more primitive than the U SAnd if you tell them about the rankings the response will be that cant be right or some claim that the rankings are biased Dont ask them to explain exactly how the rankings are biased they just know theyre biased|0 That website is pseudoscience garbage httpsmediabiasfactcheckcommercolaETAhttpswwwchicagomagcomChicagoMagazineFebruary2012DrJosephMercolaVisionaryorQuackSome great titles from Dr Mercolas website in your linkGenes are not the cause of Autismhttpsarticlesmercolacomsitesarticlesarchive20110819genesarenotthemaincauseofautismaspxCsections may cause Autismhttpsarticlesmercolacomsitesarticlesarchive20171024csectionsautismaspxVaccines cause Autism httpsarticlesmercolacomsitesarticlesarchive20110710thisshockingfactisneverdisclosedonanyvaccineinformedconsentformaspxFlu vaccines are worthlesshttpsarticlesmercolacomsitesarticlesarchive20120228swinefluvaccineworthlessaspxTainted vaccines are a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic httpsarticlesmercolacomsitesarticlesarchive20090326weretaintedvaccinesaconspiracytoprovokeapandemicaspxSo yeah Dr Mercola is a quack who wants you to buy his supplements instead of the big bad pharma poison|0 Theyre trying to say Oh we meant to do that They mean please dont make our NHS cuts look even worse than they were alreadyx200BAnd up next tax cuts|0 Oh but if we start playing that game then credit has to go back to the Normans and beyond|1 Worrisome that god only knows how many have been tested let back into the wild not just in China|0 I would not worry about PTSD People born from that time period have different mindset I wish them the best|1 Congrats Its a long road ahead|1 Yes|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I always feel like the whole east coast of China Is the same to meI spend all my time in the west and everything within a 24 hour train ride from BJShanghaiGZ just feels identical to me All the differences are so superficial Just a whole bunch of Chinese people eating jiaozi|1 No Im not that paranoid at all|0 I always find it weird that Egypt only has 2 confirm cases on BNO and claims it tested over 1000 people Yet Canada and other countries have several people coming from Egypt infected|0 Germany is in the center of Europe We are a transit nation of course we Germans take it absolutely SERIOUS|0 Rereading Masque of the Red Death right now|0 If its true its a fairly sharp turn I watched boris a few days ago when he said schools etc wouldnt be closed for several weeks as there would be a negligible effect and it needed to be pushed closer to summer So if they bring this out next week its not far off a Uturn imo|1 Wtf kind of timeline even is this|0 Im in Colorado and Ive been impressed so far I would hope that closing all the schools as early as he did was enough to flatten the curve here|1 Does anyone know what is this check link below I got it as a present with words it probably have zero effect but it doesnt cost you anything to have it I am pretty sure it doesnt help but I am really interested how are they explaining its effect since I cant find their website or what so ever It is Japanese company and you can buy it legally on Taobao in China They have a license as well at least it is presented something that looks like ithttpsiimgurcom8RR8umJpnghttpsiimgurcom8RR8umJpng|1 Do you mean the black First Nations LGBTQ communities You should specify Remember Canada is a post nation state with no core identity Diversity is our strength and all that s|1 What hes saying is very wrong What are you even talking about Here let me break it down for you You can have all symptoms and had vacation in a high risk country No if you have been to a high risk country you meet criteria 1 and you get tested That is the case for the bulk of the positive results Its not enough Yes it is It has been criteria 1 since before the first case You have to be really ill or hospilliticed No you absolutely do not You can meet other criterias while beeing fit as a fiddle My own family are also exhibiting symptoms and awaiting test results for meeting criteria 2 Edit The criteria numbers are based of Greyvortex link I didnt make that clear But I can also see that the actual new rules from today by Folkehelseinstituttet Flgende skal n testes for covid19 Pasienter med akutt innsettende luftveisinfeksjon med behov for innleggelse i sykehus Innlagte pasienter i alle helseinstitusjoner med akutt luftveisinfeksjon Ansatte i helsetjenesten med pasientnrt arbeid som fr akutt innsettende luftveisinfeksjon Person med akutt luftveisinfeksjon som har vrt i nrkontakt med et bekreftet tilfelle av covid19 Hvem som er nrkontakt avgjres av lokale helsemyndigheter Spesielt srbare grupper br vurderes for testing selv ved milde symptomer The reason is to not throttle the available testing with less important cases neither the old or the new rules are consistent with the parent comment|0 Bro Im trying to jerk off here|0 Thanks for sharing your view Its good to hear from a health professionalHow long do reusable masks need to be boiled for to ensure weve killed any viruses|1 Google it Its not hard|1 Were still being told risk is low in Saskatchewan Were going to be Ontario any day then how long til we become Italy at this rate|0 It really is If you think about it if he stays at home he takes one person out of circulation If he spends the day enabling 10 people to work from home he takes up to 10 people out of circulation Its totally valuable|1 Thanks Will head there next|1 Did you see World War Z It only slows them down|0 Users of the Johns Hopkins one got irritated and frustrated that it seemed to be very slow to update Plus unless Im misktaken it only plots confirmed cases not confirmed and suspected This crowdsourced map shows confirmed suspected deaths recoveries whatever that actually means its still too early to know but it maps those who the governments have identified as recovered and government quarantine stations toohttpswwwgooglecommapsdviewermid1yCPRukAgE55sROnmBUFmtLN6riVLTu3|0 Scam post by someone that works for that companyThis is fake newsIts not free|0 have you ever heard of supply chains LOL|1 They could but they dont have to Id like to think at least some of them would or at least give a discount|1 This is exactly the false sense of security he was referring toEuropean hospitals and governments are not ready for this will repeat mistakes made in Wuhan already happening in Italy and as such mortality will be higher|0 But 15th the population density and 120th the actual test data due to lack of availability There are so many things about this whole nightmare that is like comparing bananas to moon rocks We will be analyzing this data for many years after this is over|1 Commenting here for the updates Good luck and swift recovery|1 Or just arrogance This is my worry too|0 In the CDC study 80 had mild cases and not all of them had resolved|1 also them wearing masks has a huge impact on ordinary people to educate them its ok to wear a maskhomemade masks would be better because of shortage|1 No way We are looking at minimum a week|0 Thats what he said yes|1 n95 masks actually offer some percentage chance of helping 50 if i remember correctly but hey its better then nothing|1 It was the most recent respiratory virus which people lacked immunity to It was serious enough that people imposed quarantineCan you think of a closer analogy to the current situation|0 No worries this is just a flu Sarcasm|0 San Marino has 70ish cases with a population of 30000 so they are definitely on there as well|1 We all know what happened and have known for a good while Its a shame its going to be written out of history because this is an excellent cautionary tale for why we dont mess with things like this|1 Yeah I bailed out my 401k at the topSell high|1 The student has a sibling at Gateway Middle School who is not symptomatic but out of an abundance of caution is being tested and will remain out of school in quarantine until tests results are backThis doesnt strike me as an abundance of caution The sibling is probably like 90 going to get or have it This seems like a minimum of caution An abundance would assume some significant numbers of students at these schools are infected and theyve decided to close the entire district for 2 weeks and everyone selfquarantining|1 The more compassionate senators Mitt Romney and Bernie Sanders Which fucking timeline am I stuck in|1 Source This hesitance to test really is unbelievable for any firstworld country even if that term is obsolete|0 Its crazy how much people want to praise a totalitarian police state with a recently declared dictator who is running muslim concentration camps and disappears people for selling bad books in Hong Kong because they said some flowery shit and flew over medical supplies to help with the issue that only cropped up because of their insane lack of regulation on people eating endangered and weird shitIf you really believe what you just typed youre ridiculous Fawn over the Chinese jackboots more man|0 Anyone hearing this 4872 Hour thing from a Military friend was said to be a hoax httpsheavycomnews202003nscnationalquarantinefake I believe we SHOULD lock it all down so this was sad|0 I was really starting to like him and I almost want to give him the benefit of the doubt but that was pretty blatantly selfish|1 Hospitals in the US at least absolutely mark up prices I have no control over that but Ive been personally screwed by it when last year I a nurse in the hospital I had surgery at had to pay a little over 10 of my income after having surgery It was a less involved surgery than a similar one I had a few years ago at a different hospital but they charged me way more Im a single mom that was not easy to afford Im not here to argue about how outrageous the medical billing system in the US is Im just saying that the shortage of PPE is a problem|0 Super Friends unite Thank you for great data crunching We need data analysts to give us predictions for diff scenarios like for if we flatten the curve do nothing etc I dont speak math but I can understand red dots on a map thank you Johns HopkinsEarly on Singapore got me wondering so I looked into it and discovered it was 4th least corrupt country in a chart called Corruptions Perceptions Index Your chart has made it so obvi that there are correllations to be made between cases deaths and how corrupt a government is perceived to be SKorea proved that you can defy the odds so nobody should give up and embrace our mediocre score The yellow group can do better Other factor to consider Asia had SARS and learned from it They were way more experienced than Europe and the US|1 Sure Because on the 15th of January when the virus had been raging for a month already without anyone taking measures there really just were 41 cases Obviously there were hundreds if not thousands more But only 41 were confirmed|0 We will turn your water on to hopefully prevent you from dying from cov19 knowing not having water can also kill you|0 It worked for many a friend Still tough but it worked|1 2 is pretty bad tho|0 Its so touching that all these people have come together to help in any way they can Everyone has a part to play and Im sorry any of you have to even go through this Keep pushing on you guys are warriors|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnbccom20200310coronaviruscouldfinanciallycripplemanyamericanshtmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I agree that if you can afford to pay your water bill you should But are you okay with cutting off water service to those who lost their jobs due to no fault of their own Water is a basic human necessity Without it you die pretty quickly Are you okay with that If you are thats fine Im just curious to see what your opinion is on someone like this for exampleGuy loses his job Gets laid off Unemployment runs out He cant pay for water Should he just not have access to water to drink and bathe withIm not trying to guilt trip you Just curious to see what your opinion is in a scenario like this|1 Now LA needs to cancel the marathon|0 I was broke awhile and my rich friends dog received more care than I did|1 I hope this message spreads and infects the minds of everyone|1 the only acceptable stockpile|1 I used to think ChinaFlu was too hash on China after weeks it was more or less the same but coronavirus has gone insane it feels like a part of the propaganda machine of CCP|0 No that didnt happen stop being dumb and stop believing every weirdo conspiracy theory you read ffs|0 What I see in the video are a bunch of boomers that dont care about protecting themselves from others common sense would have one practice basic hygiene in these times|0 The study also found infants had higher rates of serious illness than older children Just under 11 of infants had severe or critical cases compared to 7 of children ages 15 4 of those 610 4 of those 1115 and 3 of those 16 and olderThats higher than I expected|0 The concern is that theres a middle ground between mild and severe Its called moderate Moderate cases can crash without warning and fast Fast enough that you need a lot of oxygen ready for them at a moments noticeWe need to find a way to deal with those People who have shortness of breath and some other symptoms but not the very bad pneumonia that severe cases have yet They dont need a full hospital bed but they need one at the readyHeres a geneticist sharing his storyhttpstwittercomClementYChowstatus1239288969398906880s19 Said he could barely hold 65 oxygen in the ER|1 I told my closest friends family on Facebook Have been pleading with my posts sharing Data and reports from overseas for a few weeks now They mostly just laugh and make fun of me continuing to make jokes about ppl panicbuying and how ppl shouldnt believe whats being said its just the flu Ive decided to try and stay away from Facebook for a little while Theres no more I can do for them now Ive been fully stocked for a few weeks and kept my kids home 3 days before they announced school closures Weve been on our own personal quarantine for about 5 daysits been like a mini vacation so far Im so glad I started following this group back in January I feel like you guys are the only ones who really understand|1 Shes at Windsor Castle Shes also cancelled all engagements for the next two weeks which is of course the sensible decision|0 The senate and the socalled elite will be told to bunker down while mutually approving the need to hide any relevant information from the tax cattle erm I mean the general public so they can keep consuming pointlessly|0 Im sad for my daughter because she may lose a grandparent They do not seem interested in curbing their lifestyle at all to avoid getting sickMy granddad sticks mostly to the house and has stopped going to the senior center to avoid crowds but he refuses to give up his pipesmoking And honestly I dont blame the poor guy Hes 93 years old hes been smoking for like 80 years Its his favorite vice Realistically theres only so much longer his life will last and the quality will likely continue to decline as he ages He knows the risks Its his choice I think family should stop chiding him and let the man enjoy his pipe|1 It has tho Ive been there multiple times for months everyone is super selfcentered and individualistic tons of people believe mass media and conspiracy theories Its the same attitude that Italy had and now the UK but in the UK is more of a governmentstrategy issue|1 Id like to point out two things one notsorelavant and one relavant to your questionNotsorelavant thing first While its undeniably true that China has pretty bad air quality but sparodic observations on PM25 readings does not hold much value due to many reasons Watch what Ive found See that breathings PM25 readings tend to go up during the night time and go down during the day time That alone renders the sparodic readings almost uselessAlso on a side note PM25 on certain region does not directly represents the human activities on that specific region Human activities on neighboring regions also play a big part and the biggest factors are the weather and the geographical features If it rains you got almost zero particulate matter If its fairly windy you got low particulate matter If theres big desert you got high particulate matter this is the reason why Africa has bad air quality even though there are not as much manmade pollution Regardless of the size of emission Compare this July rainy season with this January dry season This is the reason why you need to use the annual averageNow on to relavant thing No I dont think so Air quality in Wuhan is more or less the same compare to the rest of China However only Wuhan have significantly higher CFR as well as high concentration on severe side Rest of China seems in line with every other countries combined Furthermore air quality in Korea is not significantly better than China partly due to its proximity but they have one of the lowest CFR as well as the lowest severityAccording to occams razor the most likely explanation for the difference between Wuhan and other countries or other regions in China would be the low detection ratio in Wuhan Its no wonder why Wuhan has low detection ratio They got an unknown disease which shows flulike symptoms in a flu season for almost two whole months On the contrary the rest of the World including the rest of China became aware of the disease before the spread or on early stage of spread hence better detection ratio If you add 60k undetected patients to Wuhan their CFR drops right to 2 And I would say 60k undetected is rather low estimate because that means theyve detected 50 of total infections which seems a bit high to me|0 Tom Hanks will be the martyr whos sacrifice will save us all|1 Consider that the attending the Olympics is something for the rich what with airfare inflated hotels and tickets The guy living paycheck to paycheck is not going|1 The risks to overreacting are generally economic Until you get people flooding hospitals out of fear which results in people that otherwise wouldnt have been infected getting infected overworking hospital staff and exposing them to more risk as well as other patients in those hospitalsWe still do not know the full extent of the virus as it stands right now and right now the fearmongering is doing nothing but harmTelling people that its not that bad isnt underreacting its managing peoples fear in a time where for the western world it currently is not that bad Literally the only deaths thus far are in China a place not exactly known for its good healthcare Overreacting will do nothing but spread fear and put unnecessary strain on our healthcare systems|1 Was there really a high bar of expectations for Mexico Seems like par for the course|1 Anybody trying to communicate with me in public is irritating|0 How many of these fuckers bought all the TP|0 Agreed I gotta wonder South Korea and the UK managed to ramp up tens of thousands of tests FAST Howd they do it Who can we reach out to over there Somebody knows some things Lets find that person ask real nice|1 That makes your job worth dying for That makes it worth you becoming a vector and endangering the rest of us|1 My sister probably has the virus but they said they wont test since her symptoms werent bad enough to go to hospital Her inlaws just got back from a cruise of Southern Asia|1 the sad part is that he will not admit fault even when his life is at riskDenial is a powerful and deadly drug|1 Just drink Fabuloso It should kill the coronavirus as well as bleach doesPlus it looks like refreshing juice|0 Fucking idiot running the country|0 Thankfully its not|1 We love the image of you powerblasting shit out of your crack Preshate it|1 People experiencing shortness of breath tend to panic and go to the hospitalThat depends who the people are and where they live Where I live now Australia the public hospitals are free I grew up lived in the USA for some time pointedly not going to the doctor or the hospital because a visit to the ER was always at least 1500 People with really good insurance and finances get help other people dont A whole lot of people deal with everything at home Some of them die|1 I like these comments better than the were all fucked comments I tend to fall on this side but its hard to stay there when reading all the doom and gloom|0 Driving your car is statistically one of the most dangerous things you doNot sure why that is ridiculous|0 bad cytokine storm on second infection from what I have read|0 Join us at rcoronavirusmidwest for a more detailed look at the outbreak and how its affecting Midwest states|1 When the swine flu was just coming out i flew to Tokyo and so many people were wearing masks on the plane I didnt have one on and i imagine i made the people around me nervous since i was american My friend told me i should have worn a Cancun Tshirt I guess some people find humor in this I didnt make fun of anyone wearing a mask though its their choice I dont remember the plane to the Philippines having as many masks though 3 weeks later when i flew back the plane was 50 empty from canceled flights i imagine|0 And people like you are why people dont take this seriously|1 You also might not be fine in 2 weeks after a bout of pneumonia Once hospitals are overwhelmed mortality rates will skyrocket including for the young and healthy so your risk of 2 now will be something more like 2 then Also you might survive just fine but still need weeks of hospital stay And like you said even if you just get the sniffles there are people around you some of whom you probably even care about whose risk profile looks much worse than yours|1 So my sister works for a medical office that treats liver and kidney patients that need dialysisvery sick and when my dad asked her what her work was saying she said all the doctors and nurses including her are having a good laugh about how stupid everyone is acting and how this virus is no big deal Which is crazy and really annoying Considering our mom is immunocompromised and could easily die from this or any flu|0 UT here Theres a general sense of panic and store shelves are constantly empty More and more businesses are requiring employees to work remotely|0 Already told my mom I dont want to make contact with her until further notice Its hard we see each other just about every day but I cant risk her or my step dad Or the chain that follows Its really scary the possibility of losing a lot of people I hold dear and its heartbreaking to see people continue as if its not a concern|0 divorce i wouldnt be able to stand being adjoined with someone as ignorant as that|0 Hey man Australia is a melting pot you definitely belong|1 Awesome offer You might want to open this up to immunocompromised as well if its to limit the risk of catching the virus|1 I believe that Nobody cares about a pandemic until theres a pandemic|1 I dont understand why more people in California dont have masks When the fires hit a couple of years ago masks were out of stock but I guess few of us took advantage of the time in between that event and now to buy them|1 I dont need meds I specifically said those with allergies DO need medsI still get hit every few years though and basically have a shitty week|0 People are pretty clueless about how medicine is practicedI pretty much know everything about medicine like demons in the blood and draining out the evil blood from sick people Also snorting cocaine helps you feel better after naps|1 Sure For a degenerate case of this assume theres exponential decay in Singapore if neighboring China has an exponential growth in cases and doesnt shut off travel itll still look like exponential growth in SingaporeIts still a reasonable tool to look at the data In all cases you expect any exponential process to ultimately win|1 High cholesterol high blood pressure these probably all meet the existing conditions criteria But both are managed with medication by a lot of older peopleThe rush to clarify underlying conditions after every death is merely to reduce panic especially of working age people who keep the economy going|0 Could be If it turned out you could smoke for like a week or two to get the required altered ACE2 expression that would be a relatively cheap and safe preventative measure though As long as people stop after the epidemic is over|1 Ill lick their boots after we get through this pandemic Everyone will be hitDidnt save Tom Hanks from getting it did it|1 56 year old man dies of flu This is a story|0 Havent heard much about Hong Kong protestsJust because you havent been listening doesnt mean theyre not happening There were also massive protests boycotts walkouts et due to Carrie Lam doing the CCPs bidding and refusing to restrict travel between HK and the mainland Or a tariff warPhase One trade deal went into effect Its a truce in the trade war meant to ease things during an election year in the US|0 Im new here in reddit is not ok using them|0 I understand the government ordering such a thing sounds simple but I feel like its insanely complicated If tenants can not pay rent for 3 months landlords need relief on mortgages and need relief on everything else they have to pay more Many cant just not collect rent for 3 months What if its their only source of income This whole situation is just complicated and I personally dont know enough to think of a solution|1 Not correct They have advertised that you should wear mask if you feel sick When questioned if everyone should wear mask even if they dont feel sick they have said based on WOH guidelines its not necessary Thats what responsible leadership should do they follow the advice of the experts that they fund But they still give free masks to everyone even if they are not sick and the freedom to wear it And people still complainHow is not wearing masks improving GDP anyway Their transparency is what costs GDP|0 Its probably an increase in the number of tests able to be given If Im right the numbers will continue to grow at this rate from now on|1 My thought is our government dropped the ball already its out its spread its too late so fuck itI just want sick with it now so I can get treated if it gets bad before everything is clogged up from cases overwhelming things can move on with my life before everything else is overwhelmed and maybe have fun being counted as a case before its oh well everyone has it anywayShut things down if you want but theres no stopping it and it might not really slow it down at this point Incubation is long enough that we could shut it all down today and two weeks from now its all fucked anyway Is it really feasible to slow it down enough to matter at this point|0 Oh okay Its no problem Your English seems pretty good|1 Assuming they were looking for thatIm not a doctorcoroner but I imagine the focus of an autopsy for someone who died of COVID19 would focus on the lungs respiratory system not the brain|0 My country has no masks at all Care providers dont even have enoughBut on the other hand I dont plan on going out basically at all so I dont really need them anyway|1 If you follow BASIC HYGENE INSTRUCTIONS like you should do anyway in flu season avoid people who are showing syptoms of sickness and wash your hands often DONT FORGET TO CLEAN YOUR PHONE TOO it is highly unlikely that you will get infected at all ThisChina quarantined its people in the hundreds of millions and almost shut down its economy because you know they have no sense of measure Some basic hygiene instructions and cleaning the phone would have been enough to contain the pandemicYou know the common flu is so much worse|0 Not sure what this has to do with being selfish Im a realist|0 Who is serving the meals Classified staff I bet exposing them But maybe not as much as being in class|0 Im hoping sooner rather than later|1 No american shitposters should be banned until the problem stops this should be a nationless community with issues that concerns us all|0 There have been quite a few exposes on the labor practices Ill let you try and figure out how to search for things and find them all on your own|0 This is not accurate the lockdown youre referring to is the one first imposes on lombardia and then on the whole country some idiots escaped to their south hometown The article is referring to an earlier lockdown back when they believed to be able to contain the clusters they closed a numbers of towns that was a serious lockdown with cops controlling the entrances they were still trying to track down when the contagious started clearly it was only the top of the iceberg and the virus was already spreading at a national level and there you have all the cases outside of those towns|1 Our response is gonna put us in line with most 3rd world countries Of course our healthcare system was already at 3rd world effectiveness so why not pile on an ineffective public health policy response on top|1 It really wouldnt mean anything Catholics dont believe the Pope is immortal Popes have died before you know|0 Im addicted to checking that site every 5min lol|1 Since most people dont seem to have a clear understanding of clinical trials this is a phase I trial for this vaccine Phase I trials typically are looking at safety basically looking to see if there will there be any reactions to the vaccine upon injection If so what are they This is the first step in the creation and use of a new drugdevicevaccine Trials often go on for 10 years until theyre approved In this case they can be approved sooner based on critical need Typically vaccine trials look for painrednesshardness at the injection site local reactions and headachemuscle painfatiguefeverrash systemic reactions These are all expected and theyre judged based on duration and intensity Theyre all expected responses of the bodys innate immune system as it reacts to the vaccine If anything else happens not typical these responses are reported on These first trials look for healthy people usually looking for a spread of ages and men and women as these are the people who would eventually receive the vaccine Usually they cant be sexually active as theres no clue as to what it would do to a fetus so theres no way it could be passed on to a baby Vaccines often are genetically engineered to remove the pathogenic portions and include enough of the virus that will trigger your immune system to attack it but not enough to make you very sick The reaction or sickness you feel following a vaccine is your immune system kicking in as your body recognizes something that shouldnt be there and ramps up to fight it Then when you get exposed to it in the future your body recognizes it and knows how to attack itPlease feel free to ask questions if you want I love talking about this stuff Source am nurse working in clinical research and have worked on several vaccine trials|1 Why do you have bad insurance with a rare autoimmune disease and lung disease|0 Full shutdown in 321Folks It is the same story all around the world The grandest nation of them all is not a wee bit different than all the rest This will only end once you all stay at home staythefuckhome or landofthefreelydead Your choice|1 Aspirin and naproxen are both NSAIDs same drug class as ibuprofen so not advisable to take if youre following this warning|0 I havent been watching for this news cycle generally only catch it when Im visiting my parents where my dad will leave it on in a constant loop on the living room TVThe actual news from Fox tends to be ok Its all the opinion shows that masquerade as news that seem to be the issue|1 That is great news|1 I ended up using Instacart as I had a coupon for my massive order of random ricebeanscanned goodsPartly because Ive been sick for 2 weeks and didnt have the energy to do this all myself Also partly so I wouldnt look like the insane person with carts full of water and canned goods|0 helpful thread httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfg02ytonlineprovidersinitalyareofferingfreefk2qnerutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 Me I started out with a tickle in my throat and a bit of a cough along with horrid post nasal drip I can literally taste it in the back of my throat My face feels a ton of pressure particularly around my nose I feel like I have a mild head cold but I am utterly exhausted No fever to my knowledge however Definitely not leaving my house today|0 I am in the US I am quite likely to either die or have permanent damage from this virus weak lungs immune system quite bad at fighting off any colds or viruses I am in the San Francisco area which already has many infected cases and a huge Chinese population we will be a major hotspot in a week I am pretty worried for my two young kids Both of us their parents are older and have health issues My kids could easily lose one parent and have only one sick parent left Meanwhile at most US airports they have done almost no screening for the last month They just let people who were recently in China and Korea come into the US freely And in my county you cant get tested even if very sick and asking to be tested for this virus Its like a slow dangerous disaster that I am watching and cannot do anything about My only option is to quit my job with little savings Or just keep working and wait until my kids or I get this from my work or their school And then be very sick Our whole family has no health insurance now as I am in a new job and they wont hire me permanently yet The county health services also told the head of the school district recently that there is no benefit to the community to closing the school I am amazed that in the US so many people dont realize that if we dont slow the spread of this virus many more people will die|0 Gobert is donating over 500k to help arena employees as well as organizations in Utah Oklahoma and France to help fight against the virus Give the man a damn break If he wasnt the first NBA player to get the virus someone else sure as hell wouldve gotten it|0 Sorry but they get what they deserve If theyre stupid enough to go on a cruise these days SMH|0 Posttruth implies media was ever truthful|1 All cirque shows closed and they laid off all their employees until further notice My dad works for one and hes worked there for 15 years now has to collect unemployment cash in his PTO|0 It seems like the virus cant be transmitted during the incubation period FYI There is no evidence for it as of now anyway|1 WHO How many patients had pneumonia H about 14 thousand so far WHO why were they not included in the official numbers H They werent tested WHO But we know its from this virus You dont just randomly see 14k people with pneumonia Add them to the official number H k WHO dont forget those that died from pneumonia H Me |0 And you can declare bankruptcy if you havent already in the last seven years Although thanks to Biden its much harder now for people with moderate incomes|1 REQUESTA way for epidemiologists to rapidly share their evolving forecast models Enabling forecast model predictions to be compared against evolving realworld data as its released allows underlying assumptions to be improved iteratively and benchmarked by peers It should be open so that professional academic student and amateur teams can share their forecasts enabling educational and community use cases Adding an upvote function and a leaderboard that sorts the top forecasts by how closely theyve predicted realworld data sources creates a uniquely valuable opensource prediction market This class of problem is wellsuited to collaborative forecasting as success requires combining streams of disparate data and then applying judgmentbased weighting under conditions of uncertainty with no identical priors Its the kind of challenge where the Reddit community can make useful wisdom of crowds contributions alongside medical experts in an evidencebased way httpsphysorgnews201706futurewisdomcrowdshtmlSuch a resource would also help the public understand the fundamental assumptions the most accurate predictions rely on Adding a Loser Board featuring the most upvoted yet least accurate predictions would be uniquely useful in deflating plausible yet inaccurate underlying assumptions This could be invaluable in taming extreme social mediadriven assumptions were all gonna die vs theres nothing to worry about by putting them to the testOne approach might be to leverage Google Sheets as the baseline for models by using the Sheets API to scrape the key output data via a templated labeling schema Im not a developer but can contribute design skills Ill also chip in for any serverdomain name costs See these posts from today for examples of realworld need Epidemiology MetaAnalysishttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfbdzc1coronavirusepidemiologymetaanalysisand and httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfb9tx0targetingopensourcecontributionstosupportfj3ung5|1 So they would bring the virus to their elderly neighbors Also the virus has an incubation period The friend who flew 2 days ago has no idea if they have it or not I know theyre your parents but JFC thats irresponsible|0 So true because they can only see immediate cause and effect Their brain cant think a few steps ahead|1 Im not vindicated at all Everyone is calling this blown out of proportion|0 Clorox wipes maybe but definitely not straight up alcohol wipes or hand sanitizer or pure IPA Go ahead and do it if you want but you will definitely fuck your oleophobic coating on your phone if you use an IPA wipe|1 They were arresting people in China for not wearing them There had to be a reason for that You are being told they dont work because theres a shortage|0 ebaycom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well he did say that on the next update theyd be preparing a list of the countries he is referring to So I am definitely hoping he follows through on this|1 Still if 40 of the population get infected more than 600 M will deal with nonmild symptoms|0 We need a vaccine that is one or two years away We hope that a vaccine is one or two years away Weve been working on vaccines for HIV for 3 decades now with nothing to show for itSo it is completely possible that a vaccine cannot be created in a timely fashion in which case public health measures are the best were likely to see for some timeI hope researchers can find a smallmolecule drug that works|1 Its like watching people step out into traffic in slow motion You want to shake them and yell Whats wrong with you Theyre locked inside their own bubble sadly they may be culled for it|0 Thanks That actually sounds like a good plan We do need to flatten that curve I feel like Im waiting for a hurricane to make landfall here in the US|1 I used to work in the NHS too as a hospital receptionist and I know if I was still there now my anxiety would be going into overdrive Sending my love to you and your wife I really hope a better plan is put in motion soon |1 We invent a time machine and lock the country down before a single infection can hit the states Thats the best case|1 yes stop next|1 I was thinking the same thing Its a living nightmare for those poor souls|0 Yes sporadically We searched for them in Scandinavia but were unable to locate so completely exposed in this line One of my bigger regrets is not securing them before the trip|0 Youve been in the echo chamber too long Go get some sun guys Of all things to worry about this isnt one you can control Youre going to drive yourselves crazy|0 Im not sure if I can trust what you say rTheCoronaVirus|1 You cannot make this shit up HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH|0 Sky are reporting the latest deaths were aged between 59 and 94 At least that means that child fatality report wasnt true|0 Mississippi has schoolsMostly kidding|1 Smize Thanks Tyra|1 Excuse me sir how many breaths did you take during the test|1 Enjoy your ride on the vicious cycle|1 Its funny if you consider how the country is founded partially on passing smallpox towels and other forms of genocide then its kinda ironic to hear Human Rights Abused all day from these people|0 I mean at least they are pretending to care for their people right Cant say the same about other countries|1 The US military still deals with reality Thats a good sign|1 Where do you get it from I dont have access to Amazon|1 Hell yeah Am Canadian Just getting to 5 now and Im taking the jacket off I despise actual heat 30|0 Probably escape from new york|1 Click the link Help design an open source ventilator that can be reproduced anywhere and quickly|1 fucking imbeciles its like that here too US no cases in my stateIm sure they are all in an echo chamber at that moment as well just the flu bro oh yeah exactly just the flu rightYou know I hate to pick on one generation of people but let me point out that all the boomers I know refuse to think of others I already noticed this hypocritical boomer paradigm before the outbreak as many I know are Christian They are always complaining about how people dont act like Christians then within the same 5 minutes are cursing like a sailor and judging others saying they are going to hell I also noticed this with how boomers drive They are on the road bitching about how people should not cut people off then do the same exact thing minutes later Oh and there is the classic letmepauseinthisnarrowentrywaytoapublicspacesonobodyelsecangetinoroutbecauseyougottastopcaringwhatothersthinkofyou Its called being thoughtful you selfish little twats|0 For economic and region stability purposes they will never test PMs and presidents or at least they wont tell you the result If these people start to disappear from public tv included for some time you know they are positive|1 In Denmark people just get a doctor note that they have winter depression or stress They dont even have to tell you what it is for Employer cant argue it I tried with one employee Too easy and oft abused on the rest of taxpayers shoulders Still better than US but it was frustrating and just telling you how people abuse in these countries|0 Im broke not gona lie would do this if i was in uk|0 Holy fuck|0 Like fr Society hasnt collapsed and as long as businesses schools etc Are all operating a 40k attendance event is not significant news Its all over the country every weekend|1 It has brought to light a lot of people that dont take personal responsibility for getting others sick Thinking they will be fine and not worrying about older people|0 What fucking crack cocaine meth fentanyl pipe are you smoking out of Stop putting words in peoples mouths I never said anything of the sort|0 This is tournament season for high school and college sports and all of that stuff should be stopped immediately No play without fans measures End of NBA NHL regular seasons Delay MLB start reassess in summer Treat this like war|0 Im not sure what to be more worried about the virus itself or the fact that our own government is lying to us about it Not just lying to us but straight up not even testing folks|0 Cotton Ok wheres the camera|1 Or make her pay for the privilage|0 I know vaping is not great but since I quit smoking I feel so much better than when I was smoking I literally feel the best I have felt since I was in my twentys|1 Lmao incel angry he didnt get invited to the club|1 To clarify he has an alleged history it wasnt confirmed by any source other than the NYT article that is behind a pay wall In May 2017 just prior to the WHO election stories surfaced about an alleged coverup of three possible cholera epidemics in Ethiopia in 2006 2009 and 2011 The outbreaks were allegedly wrongly labelled as acute watery diarrhea AWDa symptom of cholerain the absence of laboratory confirmation of Vibrio cholerae in an attempt to play down the significance of the epidemics1920 UN officials said more aid and vaccines could have been delivered to Ethiopia if the outbreaks had been confirmed as cholera The allegations were made by Larry Gostin an American law professor who was acting as an adviser to rival candidate David Nabarro from the UK20 The African Union delegation to the UN dismissed the report published in The New York Times as an unfounded and unverified defamation campaign conveniently coming out only days before the election21 Tedros Adhanom denied the allegation of a coverup and said he was not surprised at all but quite disappointed by what he called a lastminute smear campaign20 Tedros Adhanom has also been criticised for exaggerated achievements and curriculum vitae which is in contradiction with a statement by WHO about the health status of Ethiopia The health status of Ethiopia is poor even when related to other lowincome countries including those in subSaharan Africa The population suffers from a huge burden of potentially preventable diseases such as HIV malaria tuberculosis intestinal parasites acute respiratory infections and diarrhoea diseases22httpsenwikipediaorgwikiTedrosAdhanomCriticismandscandal|0 Just use tiger balm ointment and youre immune|1 I thought that only oppressive communist regimes are forcibly quarantining people|0 Looks like it was his time We have to face nature reality here folks|1 But you can blame them for putting themselves ahead of the people who will take care of them and others if they get sick|0 Yeah LIke I kinda of understand the urge and all and if this was like apost apocalypse thing already where everything had complexity broken down but this is a little nuts I mean nevermind the actual medical issues the liability alone would mean no actual doctor would use one of these unless we were at the eating rats for food stage Which might happen but then these probably wouldnt function anyway|0 Yeah no school for a month for me But online classes suck|0 I have some problems with thisOn one hand yeah prices should go up as demand goes up But in doing this you jeopardize the family thats barely able to keep ends met and now theres a virus outbreak and they need to sanitize or they ran out of toilet paperCompanies acting like in Australia forming queue lines and limiting the amount someone can get their hands on to gouge is the better option at this time That way more is available to other people and youd have to drive a lot more than youd be able to gougeCapitalism works but only when youre not a dick about it Unfortunately people have been dicks and the only way the younger generation is seeing it working is through attempting to dick everyone equally with socialism That will only end the same way only worse because people are dicksTLDR Dont be a dick even if LEGALLY you can be|1 Huge problems with lack of guidance Most of the choirs in the UK have closed now but some are meeting outside and I think that contravenes guidelines but until its laid down clearly then what are people to do Also my husband walked past our local pub tonight and said it was heaving|1 C You were infected but will never know and shouldnt go out|0 The general advice is to have sufficient savings to cover at least 6 months worth of expenses It seems less and less people adhere to that standard each year but having not even a months worth of savings is enormously irresponsible Not everyone can afford to save but there certainly should be more than nobody|1 Its really tough Im angry that these leaders who havent been caught in these flubs arent taking that as a teachable moment about how much we have to focus|0 The most stressful one|0 Please cancel all nonessential events doesnt matter the size Go to work go buy food go home thats it|1 He is not a smart man but he is generous thank you|1 I left all of my personal decor I dont have a lot but I have signed photos of myself with the cast of my favorite tv show and a map where Ive put stickers where my social media followers live that sounds v vain but its a really fun way to connect with everyone hopefully I can get back and get them They arent valuable but definitely irreplaceable|1 Anyone surprised that Pokemon Go is popular hasnt been looking around when theyve been outside haha Anytime Im in a decentlysized city theres always tons of people playing This is a great move by Niantic|1 the brainstem was heavily infected|0 As an SEA pleb well OP not you needs to reconsider the Singapore environment SeriouslySingapore although being hot as hell and humid as hecc they use AC A LOT and barely open air Thats the fact I have business and rolling back and forth Singapore and AC everywhere open air pleb like me dislike it So the environment to spread the virus is actually indoor not outdoorAnd the dengue fever hiding in the bush does add more fuel to the fire though when open air would be nice for mosquitosEdit typo as usual|0 Did this for awhile with SETI years ago Ill be glad to sign up for this|1 You can still buy pollution masks at the bike shopshttpswwwwigglecoukantipollutionmasksA lot of these are N95 and will readily do the job Note that you will need to clean them before reuse possibly even with UV lighting overnight|1 My scenario is mostly for illustration purposes sure many factors can complicate response and resources if things get extreme But in developing nations were not close to that I purposely am not trying to make a call on what the overall mortality of the virus will be|1 Dont believe these phony loses|0 Well you have a point it would be better than having customers in cafe touching the condiment stand and using the bathrooms and stuff At least at my lowervolume store cafe business makes up barely 25 of overall customers per half hour and being the barista on DT window means taking cash and cards from potentially infectious customers and then handing them drinks made by potentially infectious baristas I think weve learned from Hubei that only strict social isolation will significantly impact the rate of infection Or maybe they could provide us all with masks and gloves I am thankful for my affordable healthcare benefits and generous relative to the rest of US food service sick payvacation timecatastrophe pay Its really the only thing that will keep me afloat if I cant work|1 17 year old publishes thirdparty delayed data using basic API GET requests|0 I made a feeble attempt to quit vaping yesterday Cold turkey after a year on 35mg salts and an additional 9 years on lesser stuff Bad idea the withdrawals were bizarre and sent me into a tailspin depression AND anxiety drowsiness AND sleeplessless weird hunger AND loss of appetiteI decided this was not the timeplace for such a drastic move with such side effects I have been very good about keeping my intake to oncehour as opposed to once5 minutesIf you feel you have a handle on it and its not having a huge negative impact on your life I support you|0 Im 100 convinced rCoronavirus was created by Chinese shills ANYTHING criticizing China gets removed by a mod or downvoted out of sight EVERYTHING criticizing the US gets upvotes to top post status How anyone cant see this as propaganda is beyond me|0 He got elected to make money off his presidency If he incites panic the market crashes Its in his best interest to keep the market floating even if it costs him the election My 2 cents|1 Do you understand what the paper is saying If you want to deal in emotion and ignorance rcoronavirus has you covered This sub is for scientific discussion questions and understanding|0 You would think after Katrina people here would take this more seriously than most|0 Our school district SumnerBonney Lake in WA state offers lunches dinners on Wednesday weekend food backpacks and chrome books with hot spots for families without computers and internetNot knocking New York just offering some potential availabilities for people unaware what school districts can offer to help kids in need during these difficult times|0 Fuck it looks like its about to go exponential|0 And Scotty from marketing in Australia not wanting to close schools because kids arent affected by the virus|1 We havent sported eye protection beyond eyeglasses yet but my wife and I agreed our swim goggles are being repurposed starting tomorrow Not big ole scuba goggles just regular small swim goggles After each wearing my wife will surely disinfect them as if well be preparing to perform surgery Contact lenses With no specific known scientific rationalisation we previously decided glasses may be smarter than contacts now|1 Better than nothing The real weirdos are the people not wearing masks|1 What a dumbass Investors might have been pumping on Friday to just dump on Monday These fuckers will literally sell their grandmothers to make a buck Anywho if that Family First bill Pelosi pushed actually does have some teeth then the economy might not crater until things go back to normalAnd Lou Dobbs is the other half of the Ghoul Patrol with Rudy Ghouliani as his ghoulmate|0 They had active cases of unknown pneumonia as of Dec 31st 2019 according to WHO I would assume they had to have some 2019 samples|1 Good question but as other commentors have said pretty much anyone in the US under age 5060 understands that all cable news regardless of leftright affiliation is not real news Younger people saw the world changing and made a choice not to get their news from television anymore Older people who I am not blaming are too accustomed to the idea they grew up with that corporate news may have their own agenda but thats all there is so you either watch it or you get no news at allOf course I am speaking in generalities there are exceptions but the trend reversal starts between people of age 5060 in terms of where people get their news old vs new media is my Facebook feed real news etc|1 Not neccesarily The nature of exponential spread looks slow at first One person gives it to two then a few more and so on Ata certain point though the rate of new infections explodes We could be near that point where there are or will soon be a large number of new infections that are still in their early stages|1 Thanks for this I was curious about the context of the number of people under investigation and youve provided that|1 I think we won the pay attention jackpot with the NBA season suspension Nothing gets Americans paying attention more than an iconic celebrity and canceling sports|1 Such a small percent and so many dead already Fuck man This is gonna get worse before it gets better If that tiny amount are infected and we already have 600 dead we are all fucked|0 thank you and yes I am proud after getting such overwhelming response |1 R0 of 2 is a conservative estimate its below the average of current estimatesIm not spreading fear The only way we can flatten the curve is by practicing strict and enforced social distancing If we all act now we can save ourselves a lot of time money and heartache laterStay in your lane|1 Shit Well I guess that 4 risk factors I have now instead of 3|0 Totally resident evil 3 background zombies|0 Yeah I figured it would hit The next few days are going to be crazy|0 Is there a page to track stats of number of people tested post country|1 Nice|1 Agreed Still so much to learn|1 Thanks but Id appreciate if you could tell me what part of the comment you consider to be speculation so that I can provide the necessary citation for you and get it restored Thank again|1 My parents are in their 60s early and mid Theyre keeping themselves busy doing the garden for the next week so I know my Dad is keeping away from travelling andor being in London on the odd occasionI suspect I might have it had a week of constant dry cough and very sore body aches for 34 days in middle of week and shortness of breathing for at least a few days last week and over weekend So glad I only saw them briefly at the weekend when my coughing wasnt too badPersonally I was all angry at no testing of nonepidemic cases and lack of social isolation action initially like many here But I get the sentiment that they may have data within the cases they know about in terms of social movements what those people might do when they traced cases|0 I used to work in the UK head office for NCL and can tell you with absolute certainty that they dont give a flying fuck about anything other than their profits including customer and staff safety Probably a safe bet to stay well clear of all cruise lines for the time being as theyre all the same at the core just a different flavour of bullshit|1 Thats quite old data Italians report 52 of cases asymptomatic which is in line with Princess Diamond Theres no way to stop the spread if half of the people dont know theyre sick|1 Really perverse incentives hereIts literally dangerous to travel to these hotspots yet airlines want you to do it Same with cruisesMaking money the lives of the customers What a world|0 SMEAR YOUR BONES IN BLOOD OF FALLEN ENEMIES|0 My anxiety has full hold of me now|0 Man i cant believe you actually had to say that People really thought they meant that it was a sunny lovely and warm 23 degrees Fahrenheit day in chilly Australia|1 No one should ever have to go through thisReminds me of no child should ever see a parent dieLife can be rough dont expect the government to do everything for you because the odds are it wont|0 They rarely close them when theres massive snow storms I cant imagine they will be taking a precautionary approach I hope Im wrong|0 One can dream|1 Do you think implementing volunteers from the community be a good idea or no|1 Not really If it really is that bad which it most likely is then waiting for everything to be over means less property value and higher wages from there being less people|0 Would you say the lower rate in SK and some other places is attributable to learning more about how to treat or something else|1 They are either inept or purposely doing a global cull All too convenient Trim the old and infirm disrupt economy to usher in a nwo one Call me mad lol but I guess the latter|0 Were being managed by COMMITTEE in a super fast moving pandemic oh dear Lord were fucked|1 Well Id rather be in Italy than china thats for sureIf I were Chinese and had the money Id have done exactly the same thing Italy takes care of patients well and life is very cheap compared to most of main developed Europe plus has tonnes of Chinese alreadySo yeah sometimes gotta be selfish in life to take care of own life|1 I believe 6 is where Wuhan peaked when they ran out of resources Thats where Italy is rapidly heading its where Iran probably is they are unreliable and its where America could end up if transmission remains uncheckedIts possible that Iran will hit 10 or more thoughFYI from a new article from LiveSciencecom Italy currently at 5 WHO previously reported Wuhan peaking at 58 07 Chinese fatality rate outside Wuhan raw global rate at 34httpswwwlivesciencecomwhyitalycoronavirusdeathssohighhtml|0 People have slowly been going back to work in much of the country for the past 23 weeks But they are continuing to track people using health codes and other methods to make sure that the outbreak doesnt get back out of control|1 Given a functioning properly staffed not overwhelmed health system the mortality rate is sitting around 2 Once it hits triage it gets worse quickly|0 If we cant prevent the flu from coming here why in the hell would people believe we can stop this They have their head in the sand like a damned ostrich|0 Chuckles|1 Do it now If it helps tesco is selling packs of noodles for 14p The chicken ones arent bad with some salt and pepper|1 Thank you for the clarification|1 Yeah I dont get it Romneys always been a pragmatist and isnt one to stick to party lines|1 What do you mean by reporting honestly If you mean censorship I dont think anyone is seriously doubting whether Canada is reporting honestly The only problem is whether we are testing enoughWeve tested 2178 so far in Ontariohttpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirus which is better or slightly on par to the entire US only 2000 tests administered so far by CDChttpswwwvoxcomscienceandhealth20203621168087cdccoronavirustestkitscovid19 but its a far cry from what South Korea was able to do 140000 tested by March 5httpswwwscmpcomweekasiahealthenvironmentarticle3065187coronavirussouthkoreasaggressivetestinggivesIf you look at the ratio to confirmed cases were not doing too bad Ontario has tested close to 100 times the number of confirmed cases 292078 001331 Note that it is almost certain as is for every other countrys numbers that 25 is not the actual of people currently infected The question is how many more are infected but we dont have any clue about epidemiologists call this determining the size of the iceberg Its an active research question and leading epidemiologists are trying to work it out for this virus BC has also managed to do the samehttpwwwbccdccaaboutnewsstoriesstories2020informationonnovelcoronavirus 272008 So has Albertahttpswwwalbertacacoronavirusinfoforalbertansaspx 4379 Cant find numbers for Quebec and not sure about the other provinces hopefully they have kept up with testing despite having no confirmed cases US has tested barely 4 times the number of confirmed cases 5302000 0265 They are in trouble with a much larger population and especially since theyve never managed to keep up with the testing The fact that were also getting in Ontario at least as many cases from Italy as from the US should set off alarm bells South Korea has tested on March 5 close to 25 times the number of confirmed cases 6000140000 004 but has also managed to stay way ahead of other countries in terms of testingWhether or not Ontario needs to step up testing Im not sure we havent exactly been given details unless I missed it of who they are testing in relation to the confirmed cases thats the major worry that theyre spreading the virus before they presented to a hospital airport public transit etcPerhaps we should have been by the 10k tested mark by now but I have no clue how many test kits we have The only good news is it seems like the vast majority tested do not have the virus but that could be either there is no mass spreading or we are testing the wrong peopleUnfortunately our neighbour to the south seems to have somehow dropped the ball entirely which is bad news for Canada Lets hope the situation in the US improves when the CDC delivers their 12 million tests by Mondayhttpstechcrunchcom20200306tryingtomakeupforlosttimethecdcwilldistribute11millioncovid19teststhisweekend and according to the same article allegedly 1 million more by the end of next weekSource of confirmed numbershttpswwwwikiwandcomenTemplate2019E2809320coronavirusoutbreakdataInternationalmedicalcases|1 My buddy Mike is a major contributor to this sub He might even read this Mike barely graduated high school and he now delivers hummus to grocery stores here in MichiganImagine having a best friend named Mike who sucks at delivering hummus This shit is too good to be made up|1 Yeah its not crazy to understand different races are more susceptible to different diseases Whites pretty much cant have sickle cell which sucks for black folks but it also protects them from malaria|1 Yes Well be seeing effects of this across the globe in the weeks to come|1 Can I not have fun Im good with boredom and hum drum|0 I know that there is no strong evidence that the virus is susceptible to heat but why so few cases in Africa I guess that they dont test too much but on the other side given hygine level and quality of medical service there an outbreak would be visible right|1 Oh Well fuck|0 Yea Im not convinced|0 The at risk patients are what really matters in this war I hope the virus stays away from your father |0 Even if he does get reelected its just 4 more years He will do more fucked up shit his approval will drop The next president will be dem Change will happen eventually httpsimgurcom8vvpLW5We are just on one of the loops right now|0 Still quite low I dont think Ive ever had flu even if its so common every year|0 Source Just kidding nobody knows anything|1 People abuse any inch given to them in retail fast food etc It is like a tug of war between employee employer|0 Oh shut up you cant even remotely compare our healthcare to Mexico We WILL treat you if you go into a hospital sick or dying|0 US showed leadership and made the right moving banning flights from China when the outbreak first started but Trump has truly squandered that head start it gave us and by not banning flights or screening people from Italythe intiial leadership was not based on anything but political pandering|1 lol no My sister is taking college classes for nursing and was telling me that this is no big deal She is a smart enough person but she still told me that I was overreacting when I told her I was going to practice social distancing at her marriage last weekend|1 Lol me and my partner were just as bad and then we went andFlu Type A First time Ive ever had it Go figure |0 He went to the hospital and it took 4 hours before they took the xrays He sat in the waiting room afterwards for another 2 hours waiting on someone to give him the results before he walked out without them He said the waiting room was packed with people several of which were coughing or visually ill and he was the only person wearing a mask He got nervous and left|0 All I know is that the 15 cases of Coronavirus we have in the US will be reduced to zero soon Definitely by April|1 The United States is not Malaysia|1 I really hope so This is the only thing that will help at this point|1 Interesting Lots of people in my industry are from China and many have returned to work I assume there must be some geographical relation at play here for our difference in reports|1 So they are preying on poor destitute people who literally need this money to put themselves in the firing line Id pass on this if I were them|0 The report PDF httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfWuhan yeah its still in lockdown My take is that they need intensive care to make patients alive and recover and they need more facilities to keep motility low WHO advisor on press conference was saying that what China is doing while the lockdown is going on is to build more hospitals and containment facilities Welp|1 A Ryzen and 1660ti is a lot m ore than I am offering Thank you|1 Its hard to decipher the hard facts of the virus itself it seems because Im in the same boat Im fully onboard that this is incredibly serious and that things will get bad before it gets better but theres a flurry of information coming in and some of it seems conflicting or at least misleading Hard to gauge certain things right now for sure|0 An acquaintance I know is a quant Hes one of the guys that builds trade setups and his will survive any market as long as there is a market So impressive Im assuming hes using algos or maybe even Ai Hes not allowed to tell us ha ha ha I wouldnt tell anyone either Professionally he doesnt care what the market does so we are all ears when he talks Hasnt said anything other than a bit possibility of recession We conclude that market crash or recovery is still on the fence|1 A site I put together with links to studies and how to make you own httpscvmasksgithubio Please help spread the link|1 Man it would be awesome if the US had some sorta universal basic income to support people while their medicare covers ER related expenses be super cool|1 Funny thing is they said the same thing about the Spanish Flu First wave hit the old harder then when the second wave came during Fall the young 2030s were dying at a rate that can cripple entire countries Our current 3 CFR is based off having medical care and drugs Once those are gone because countries are hoarding and restricting exports what were once severe cases are fatal Given how COVID19 seems to also do permanent damage to survivors will also make this more problematic|0 Bruh my mother is 62 so not exactly elderly however she isnt the youngest either and has issues with her lungs People talking about elders or the weak are the only ones who die so dont worry are making me angry As if we dont have our parents more family and friends to worry for Im not worried for myself but if I get it my mother might too im extremely worried over that|1 Thanks I edited my original comment One problem with running a wellmoderated forum is people assume surviving posts meet some standard of credibilityDoes the sequence correction raise the closest match to a known bat virus above the 96 I remember seeing weeks ago I suspect not based on 1 year of mutations|1 Why would it become uninhabitable This isnt some sort of apocalyptic event Shandong has a whopping 200 cases not 2000000|0 Lies|0 This is fantastic Im looking for similar documents from the other provinces but not turning up much|1 Agreed The new guidance was like 10 days ago and with all these large rolling every day new positive cases one might think they would have revised it But to what Original method and those people would all be stuck on ship indefinitely waiting to get sick and possibly die That is no real answer either Probably would have been a mutiny Its a mess for the ages|0 Yup I feel like doctor trainingworkloads need a major reform|1 Alright you can do this alright People are here for you but get off of that sub Go to rCOVID19 its strictly scientific and people there are usually less doomer more thoughtful Secondly pick a hobby youve been wanting to try for a while and attempt to learn that or catch up on a Tv show you wanted to watch but never got the chance to Or grind a video game you wanna get better at But dont read stuff on China Flu I was the same way till I got off there and Ive been looking at more scientific stuff and I feel much better even though my area isnt as badly as affected PM me if you need to talk to anyone though|1 Okay sure they wont hit 1 million this week like they said But did they make any|1 Theres a new thread for that paper if youd like to discuss it as wellhttpswwwredditcomrnCoVcommentsezbrlwsuccessfuldelayofspread3daysfromwuhanto|1 Me too Quit smoking and started exercising I dont know what id be feeling if I was still in the shit health I used to be|1 Health insurance is pretty cheap though if you start early and healthy Especially compared to something like in the US|1 It hasnt disproportionately affected the young SK are just the only ones bothering to test the young and otherwise heathyGood luck trying to get tested for it as a young person in the USA regardless of your symptoms|1 Posted the original video this guy the caller uploaded to the buffalo subreddit Downvoted into oblivionCalled kaelida got not calls back from PRCalled Erie county Dept of health and got nothing Just a panicked spokesperson who said to email her and hung up on meAlso made a tip to Buffalo news and WGRZ WGRZ never contacted me back but BN seemed very interested and took all the information I had I archived the dudes videos before he made them private due to an email I sent him said to go to the news and he said he was worried for his wifes job and might remove them I got about half of them before they went offline and sent it to BNThis isnt adding upI made these calls last week by the way|1 Because they realize they dont NEED Trump anymore He usefulness is coming to an end He loses they likely wont take him in Hes better off dying of corona a martyr to his followers|1 Have you been to any affected areas latelyYes the UK|0 Yeah I think that contributes to preventing the spread of Coronavirus too You dont have to make an appointment to see your GP If something seems off and youre unsure about your symptoms you just go to any GP that is convenient to you at any time after work lunch break etc and ask if you should be worried or if its a normal cold The copay is going to be like 5 USD So you dont put it off or avoid goingIm sure the influx of visits is annoying for GPs but think about the alternative In the US people wait in their car with their children in the hospital parking lot while they have seizures so they can avoid costly treatment if it doesnt get too bad These are the people that are going to continue to go to work and avoid treatment until they literally cant get out of bed|0 Fair though I guess Im worried more about the distance between A few days later I started developing flulike symptoms which got worse the next day before getting better today I saw my family doctor today Its my distinct impression from past experience that at least in DT Toronto and being younger and healthier that wait times for family doctor visits may be longer than the actual incubation period I guess I could walkin to a local hospital there are a few close by but really want to avoid that unless I feel really sick or walkin to my local clinic not sure how effective that would be for testing Id really like to see what Israel and SK are doing with driveby tests and test kits sent to your home done in Canada tbh I feel like theres no inbetween step for people who may have milder symptoms but can still spread which is what I really want to flag I really dont want to go to an ER and possibly expose others in the waiting rooms as I wait for 6 hours with mild symptoms|0 Yes everyone is fighting cases from two weeks ago that are now getting serious The people that will be flooding hospitals in a couple of weeks are all being infected right now|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 5000 cases with 35 deaths in the cold weather Thats crazy low Patient care must be excellent|1 Labour tried to force it to run like a business in the 90s and its fairly gone downhillIn England at least The back door privatisation shit couldnt be inflicted on Scotland|0 Why doesnt he want to move to a younger body|0 I was going to feel bad for him until he went ahead and just touched all the mics and table after his media appearance httpsstreamablecomo2eju|0 No guns Im disappointed|0 The swiss government has been lethargic and swiss companies look to the government for guidance|0 Dude You are awesome Thank you grazieI hope I spelt it right for sharing this with us and being the strong positive individual you are I wish you your familyfriends all the very best|1 I asked my 99 year God mother about what she thought about the Corona Virus she said It was the summer of 57 Elvis just bought Graceland Hurricane Audry hit Louisiana and the arrival of the Asian flu The dreaded flu it came from China them damn yellow commies she remembered thinking Eisenhower on the radio making a speach on the flu pandamic stay calm Uncle Sam has got it covered The old people all said it wasnt going be as bad as the Spanish Flu of 1919 All she new where people had died all over It was scaryPeople didnt know what to think what to say but Ikes message was go about your daily duties say some prayers and things will get better 60000 people lost their lives in America But in a optomistic tone it wasnt as bad as the flu in 20s killed 2030 million around the world She was flooring me with that 20 million people Now lets talk about this new bug it cames from China them damn commies she had to put in How many people died she asked dont bother to answer picking up her smart phone 99 and a smart phone She Googles how many people have died from Coronavirus Here look at this 2858 is all She asked how many people in the world Back to the phone is said 8 billion Now Ive lived thru alot the big war was born at the height of the depression and the Asian Flu After everything that has happend I know one thing people will take care of each other People die every day This new bug hasnt got a chance to defeat us All this fuss is nothing people today dont know what hardship is They as you say Freak Out at the smallest thing its not anything yet so if it becomes something keep your head be dear to your heart and help one another It will be alright Uncle Sam got it coveredMy thoughts about Corona Virus after this talk looking thru her eyesEveryone dont Freak Out It has been a hell of a lot worse and when it is all said and done we will all do the right thing so go about your daily duties Say a prayer It will be alright Uncle Sam got it covered God too|0 I bet Pence is praying somewhere|1 Please add any publications about SARS or nCoV19 that are not included|1 How often have you agreed with TrumpIf you havent isnt that just blind opposition So he is magically able to only make incorrect statements and take incorrect positions without faultAnd how is that better exactly You are blind for the right side not against it Ahh thats the virtuous position|1 Thats exactly what I am sayingOP was talking about antivaxxers that I also hate but antivaxxers cant make it worse because there is no vaccine and also there probably will never be a cure Just treatments like regular colds and flus Read in context and reply in context|1 Even according to China the numbers are increasing so I have no fucking idea what youre talking about Are you crazy|0 If the vast majority of cases are like that I will take it it would be the best thing that could happen Then once we ride this out and infections run down due to distancing we can start to get things up and running again|1 Ive been using the NY Times live feed on their websiteapp It seems to be the most consistently updated and accurate source Ive found A couple weeks ago I was using the CDCs website and realized it wasnt updating for days sometimes The NYT is offering all their Coronavirus news for free|1 Meh just like the flu|0 Where do you live Normalcy bias is to damn strong haha|1 Where theres fire theres flames|0 I hope my last words arent to some teenage GameStop employee|1 I thought masks were not necessary LOL authorities need to make up their mind on this one Also supply and demand Demand is 100x more than supply Why should the price not be higher This is idiotic|0 Didnt think Id ever say anything positive about the UAE but good job|1 It is a very sad change of events indeed but it must be admitted that people are simply taking precautions Protecting your safety and health is by no means an act of discrimination The owners of this business were straightforward and responsible enough to clear things up An act of kindness that we can not expect or presume from anyone If I speak from my own perspective I simply do not know who has travelled to China and dont ask for this matter explicitly I will continue to make my buying decisions accordingly|1 Antivirals interrupt viruses abilities to grow reducing the viral load Reducing symptoms is just an anecdotal sign that its effective in reducing the growth of covid19|1 3 deaths outside of China so farAnd they were genetically chinese Ive read it attacks a certain that asiatic people have but not the rest of the planet which would mean that yes for the rest of the world it would be just a flu|0 As a husband who has a job that would be forfeit if I stayed home I just want to ask is his employer allowing the option to stay home without penalty Because in my case without being sick I would likely be fired or marked as a selftermination for simply staying home|1 Then they should push themselves to learn more valuable skills and get a better job|1 Other countries have locked down earlier than UK and are already overwhelmed UK has something like 120k hospital beds TOTAL and they are already strained without covid Needing 20k beds would lead to unnecessary deaths and Boris has us on course to need a million or more in fact who knows nobody knows which is why we should be stalling But we do know the UK is guaranteed to be overwhelmed and more people will die from this idiotic policy Once again its money first and people second What else to expect from the nasty party I just wish the only ones to suffer would be the ones who voted them in|0 If youre in the States this is part of our idiotic hero work culture Even if that person causes the use of 40 hours of sick time by other staff heshe will still be a hero when it comes time for reviews Since the source of new illnesses in the office can never be positively assigned they always get off scotfreeRelated People who love getting woken up in the middle of the night to fix technical problems and send tons of emails to everyone showing how attentive they are If they were any good at their jobs they would remove the source of problems that cause people to be woken up at 3AM Or at the very least insist management pay attention to stupid problems like that|0 That is the thing So many ppl are reporting positive results but lots more are sayingnothing is definite we need more studies definite trends etc Maybe that is why they are not saying that it is the effective treatment drug|1 New Yorkers are too confident about not having any cases thats what Im seeing from people in the city|1 I honestly think its just people not realizing how serious the situation really is Brushing things off as media panic or saying people are overreacting Im sure theyll realize the severity of the situation soon enough We only have 8 cases here so a lot of people arent really understanding the real life consequences just yet|1 FDA just approved new tests in the last few days so finally the testing shortage should be addressed Huge increase in testing capacity should be coming on board this week Have the kids go back to their doctors and demand tests|1 Oh yeah baby|1 Here immunity works well with vaccines When over 95 of population is vaccinated then people who cannot be vaccinated for various medical reasons allergies to vaccine carrying medium usually eggs lowered immunity disorders enjoy a very low possibility of contracting the preventable illness Covid19 is currently not preventable through vaccination What UK government is advocating is to get 5070 of population ill and let the weak ones die Its insane Once this is all over they should be trialled for treason|0 httpswwwwhointhealthinfosurveyageingdefnolderenMost developed world countries have accepted the chronological age of 65 years as a definition of elderlyIs the scientific field and WHO teenagers|1 I mean wearing rubber gloves when taking in payment and such seems ridiculous rightAbsolutely not cash is a major disease vector because of how many hands it goes through If I am working as a cashier or any type of job that requires handling money I am wearing gloves all the time and fuck what management thinks about itThis is why the Chinese collected all the cash and will be disinfecting it or perhaps even burning it And nobody ever thinks of disinfecting their credit cards either|0 I do not understand this guidanceIf wearing a mask properly reduces the risk of transmission then it is useful whether or not I wear it in public or when acting as a care giver Its like wearing gloves in public Masks also reduce your ability to touch your nose and mouth unconsciouslySo isnt it ALWAYS better to wear one if worn properly Its just an issue of comfort and whether it is worth the loss of comfort See any asian country and their populace has become quite familiar with masks on in public precovid Why literally tell people to NOT do it when it should be a its not necessary but if you want|1 Never attribute to malice that which can accurately be explained by stupidity|0 TranslationBolsonaro will do another coronavirus exam and will be in isolationMeasure will be necessary for the time that the President spent with the Secretary of Communication Fabio Wanjgarten diagnosed with the diseaseEven with the first result of the coronavirus test having come back negative President Jair Bolsonaro will repeat the test early next week He is also expected to spend a few more days in isolation at the Palcio da AlvoradaThe measure will be necessary for the time that the president spent on the plane and next to the Secretary of Communication Fabio Wanjgarten diagnosed with the disease on Thursday 12 Read more Find out whats myth and truth about the new coronavirusCardiologist Leandro Echenique said that the president should stay in isolation for a while He remains in quarantine until the beginning of next week at Palcio do Alvorada You need to be isolated for at least seven days after contact he said|0 Idk if youre from NYC but rush hour in a train or subway is extremely uncomfortable because of the lack of personal space I hope the CFR is much lower than we think it is because I think the entire city will catch this|0 People in my life were saying things like its gonna me a rough few weeks and I was there worried glancing at the camera like jim from the office thinking more like monthsyears|1 Are you serious Hundreds of thousands of people gather each year to meet and to attendIt is an extremely wise move to cancel until the fog has cleared as many of the events are very close quarters with hundreds if not thousands of other people|1 Look lets not make this a political thing Im a Trump supporter who has seen this coming and a millenial The reactions to this arent divided among party lines I have liberal relative boomer that have been just as unconcerned about this disease as the Trump lovers in my family|1 Prayers that shes negative Good to hear they didnt charge you|0 Fuck yeah|0 1 Wash your hands thoroughly2 Scratch that bad boy|0 35 test 22 positive 63 positive|1 Boomers own 58 houses raising our rent making it impossible for younger people to buy property Tell me more about how we should treat you equally|1 yes and at that point its not just grandparents anymore regular emergencys or diseases will get worse treatment too and 15 or thereabouts of the infected need hospitalization I dont know what age threshold it is but im sure if they dont slow it down it will be a major issue Thats why so many countries immediately try to take big steps in denmark where I live more than 450 are infected and 3times that are in quarantine Just a short while ago we had no cases all schools are closed all government workers that arent essential are staying at home they are about to implement a new law to forbid gatherings of people so far it is illegal for them to forbid that|0 I think its obvious that its not spreading fast in the US Or hasnt been as of 2 weeks ago It takes like a week to show symptoms then another week to get pneumonia So its not been spreading all over the US And if news tomorrow comes up that people start dying then we know its only been spreading a couple weeks at mostItll be just like Italy where all of a sudden we have a few hundred sick people around one city Itll most likely be in California or the west coast The government will quarantine that city and then itll slowly spread to where those first people traveled and then we will have to trace down where theyve been to track the virus more|1 Look at it this way Its in our hands Many selfisolate and travel lessIts the responsibility of each to take independent precautions and inform each otherDo you actually want cops and military to invade your house and do it for you|1 A month ago No cases in the US we are fineA week ago No spread in US communities we are fineYesterday No deaths in the US with our healthcare we are fineTomorrow Its like either everyone has no ideas how viruses and taking time to spreadkill works or they lack the ability to think forward even a month|0 So then enjoy having a stinky diaper less baby if the supply chain ever drops offShould have plenty of time to deal with it too |1 You probably think that therenare only 12k or so infected Bro there are probably over 100k infected right now and more to come Stop being a naive prick This is not your normal virus|0 Perhaps they are playing the right cardsThey are not We are going to become the next Italy precisely because we havent learned anything from Italy|1 Yup and my roommate just said to me today that its all fake people are over reacting knowing I have a auto immune problem He coughssneezes and doesnt cover his mouth Basically telling me he doesnt give two shits about me dying Im thinking about kicking him out He can go live elsewhere with people who thinks like him|1 No surprise our red goof is going through with this Khabib vs tony will fight in a hospital basement if thats what it takes|0 Can I take your booking number passport number and ID please|1 Good companies competing against each other FOR me is how this is all supposed to work Not 1 monolith company that gets to fuck me over and sell my info and lobby against net neutrality once it suits themAs long as Ecoasia does what it says it does and it works well Ill keep using them They release updates on their efforts all the timehttpsblogecosiaorghttpsblogecosiaorg|0 I see hopefully we also have a vaccine by then Luckily Coronaviruses dont mutate very often|1 At this point having expectations set is probably very welcomed by OP|1 I feel like Im stuck in one of those a annoying dreams that keep on going in the same loop And eventually I am able to break the cycle and wake up Please let these kart few years be one of those dreams I want to wake up and say holy shit that felt real|1 Wheres your god now|1 I swear these guys are gonna ban everyone till no one uses them anymore Or at least this is what I hope|0 If you have any hand cream or even body lotion or vaseline put on a nice thick layer and then thin cotton gloves overnight Savlon can be a good option too especially if you have any cracking because you want that to heal well Soaking in overnight will really help them heal and feel comfortableYou can get the gloves in chemists big cheap shops like BM etc or if you are isolatingcheap just use socks|1 Fair enough point Save our grandparents|1 Its driving me absolutely insane that we have weeks between each confirmed case its just crazy and of course its not right|0 This could be pinned Its a very good sum up of official data|1 Cant spell pandemic without panic|1 My dad is 65 and a primary care physician and also the medical director at a nursing homeI know its selfish but I wish he would retire I know he wont though|1 Or suspend the election|0 Ah I see I was meaning it to be more of a solution for a global crisis and not another way for Amazon to make added revenue It obviously would work as fantastic marketing material helping to mitigate a pandemic|1 So Im also very upset about this and think its being woefully mishandled However I somewhat disagree with this in a wayThey chose not to prepare our supply stockpiles our health workers or the general public I think they screwed the health workers over the most The people fighting on the front lines They knew doctors were dying in China they knew they needed protection from the viral loads and still they didnt give them the information and resources they needed to protect themselves early on and didnt proactively start producing more resources that they knew we would needIt is true that they ought to have created stockpiles of PPE especially in preparation for any pandemic The US has one I havent been able to find a single EU country with one but havent looked very hard But even the US only has like 30million masks on hand That is pathetic considering that during normal periods governments can buy masks for practically nothing They should have stockpiled many many more than that in preparation for an event like this Better yet they shouldnt have offshored all the damn production to China People were warning them that if a crisis like this came up it would not be possible to meet demand for PPE in the UShttparchiveliAjmfW Europe doesnt even seem to have thought about it at all So by the time this situation started looking grim in January it was already way too late And honestly I may need to put my tinfoil hat on here but I fully expect these early coronavirus reddits to get quietly purged after a while to make sure people cant go back and see just how much information we had so earlyAgreed This is why you should Always Archive Everything AAE I always use oldreddit to archive since using wwwreddit often gets messed up If you want to be very thourough use both archiveis and archiveorg I prefer is though since org seems more likely to bow to the powerful who want to scrub it Heres this thread as of now for example httparchivephCVYfD|1 4x multiplier on official numbersPlease do not be naive and try 40xConsidering that we had a 30 of 200 infection rate on the flight to France id say yes the chances are pretty high|1 But most of the times with lesser impactThis is how viruses burn out by mutating In a more contagious less deadly form|0 Ultra got cancelled so Id expect others to follow soon|0 It absolutely happens I had a female coworker complain to our manager who happened to be her friend surprise that I was bullying her harassing her being combative and some other issues that would mean instant termination To put this in perspective I was the sole accounts payable employee at the HQ of a small well known burger joint that had about 30ish locations when I worked there I got along great with all of the executives all of the managers of the stores and pretty much every single employee that I interacted with I had never been written up for a single violation I was never late and my work was always on point Now the one that made the complaint was the receptionist The one thing that I think is most important is respect regardless of title pay anything So I noticed that I was having to answer a ridiculous amount of phone calls either customer complaints managers with issues or companies requesting payment details etc I realized that the receptionist was just textingchatting away on her phone going outside taking super long breaks I got fed up and asked my manager to please talk to her as I felt it was unfair that I couldnt focus on my work work that literally allowed the the company to function I was spending too much time doing her duties and was worried that I would either fall behind or make mistakes A few days later my manager asks me to go into the conference room with her and theres sitting the Director of HR I sit down he starts talking telling me all the things the employee said my manager just sitting silently Ive been told by girlfriends that Im scary calmscary calm angry at times whatever that means and the Director says to me Uh I see your eyebrow is raised does anything sound odd to you Well yeah that doesnt sound anything like me Can you please give me any examples of these accusations The director looks at my manager who doesnt say anything Seriously just one example hello They are just quiet for a moment he crossed out everything on the paper said sorry for the waste of time and to go back to my desk My manager was fired a few weeks later|0 Oh well if his sister says itlol|1 What Bar Social shaming is in order Dont worry about the job Worry about your health|0 Yeah and hes a conservative speaking the truth|1 Low IQ more likely|0 I dont think its actually that weird if one person on a cruise ship has something everyone on that cruise ship is going to have it two weeks later|0 There are a bunch in China One problem so far with doing in vivo trials in the US is not that many people have it so far thankfully Press conference reports on the Chinese trials have been positive but many dont report formally for months reportshttpwwwchinaorgcnchina20200222content75732846htmtrailshttpwwwchictrorgcnsearchprojenaspxtitlechloroquineofficialnamesubjectidsecondaryidapplierstudyleaderethicalcommitteesanctionsponsorstudyailmentstudyailmentcodestudytype0studystage0studydesign0minstudyexecutetimemaxstudyexecutetimerecruitmentstatus0gender0agreetosignsecsponsorregnoregstatus0countryprovincecityinstitutioninstitutionlevelmeasureintercodesourceofspendscreateyear0isuploadrfwhetherpublicbtngobtnverifycodepage1|1 Many biotech companies and research labs are currently working on vaccines However vaccine development is a lengthy process with many phases regulating clinical trials etc Usually vaccine development takes 25 years but the WHO estimates that with the high level of international collaboration a SARSCoV2 vaccine might be available in 18 months In the meantime antibody therapies or antiviral drugs that are successful in the treatment of other viruses including HIV are being tested|1 Yeah and it resulted in tens of millions dead I dont remmeber if this or Clyde X was the one where they simulated a vaccine found after 6 months but even then at that point logistics have failed and vaccine could not be delivered|0 I feel like Germany is the country most on top of this for some reason She left a trail of 16 people so far and they are continuing to follow itwhat about the people in the US Where are their 16 people|1 She said her protective gear was really hot I think the sweat and the tight bond of the goggles definitely would cause issues especially to sensitive skin TIL that many goggles are antifog I wonder if that actually works when so much humidity is building up inside the goggles You certainly wouldnt want to have to take them off and readjust them|1 Why though Theres no logical sense here No one is gonna go back and say whyd you alert us weeks earlier We had extra time to prepare that way and the disaster oh itll be a disaster no matter what was less badWho complains about that It cant be money An unknown spreader costs the government way way more money Whos gonna end up paying more in the end us or South Korea Its gonna be us Its fucking obviousNot to sound like a conspiracy theorist but the only good reason for Canada to do nothing is some sort of fucked up relieving us of the burden of the elderly Which maybe making sense environmentally is beyond fucked up and horrifying I cant see such a plan orchestrated on so many levelsSo what is it then|0 Also observations from SL India Bangladesh Pakistan Only Pakistan and some small part of India have cold wintersAlso Africa Yes it maybe true that ppl may not have been tested But even if thats true at least ppl are not getting seriously ill If they were then we would have heard by nowAll these countries have free press and close to no Internet restrictions India also has a lot of nonresidents with close ties to their homeland so something like this cannot remain hidden for long Conclusion There are no active cases India recovered 3 SL recovered 1Ive posted multiple times with the hypothesis It would be great if some scientific evidence is gathered|1 What do people do for fun while locked up TV games|1 I think its bullshit the employees think they shoukd be paid to stay home|0 Theres no such thing|0 Im also a Canadian in a city in China rn The people I know are alert but not anxious I was anxious but I kind of habituated to it I mean its my own adjustment of mindset too worrying is not gonna help me Like the measures taken here is relatively stringent and people are pretty self disciplined by taking good precaution like avoiding going out when possible wearing a mask when going out and keeping good distance from each other Went grocery shopping today to get more supplies before people return to the city for work everywhere is well ventilated you have to register your info your temperature is taken and everywhere smells strongly of disinfectants Even 711 takes your temperature It at least makes me feel a little bit more assured with the different levels of precautions taken|1 So are they hoping it all blows over What about when people start dying in mass numbers|1 This is remarkable Also check this one httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367Decline in immune function with age has been attributed to defects or alterations in both the innate and the adaptive immune system In this issue of the JCI Zhao and coworkers provide evidence for a novel mechanism of immune dysfunction in aging mice They show that migration of respiratory DCs from the site of virus replication to the draining lymph nodes in response to infection with several different respiratory viruses is markedly diminished with increasing age The impaired DC migration was a result of increased levels of the lipid mediator prostaglandin D2 PGD2 in the respiratory tract with age and could be partially reversed by blockade of PGD2 synthesis or action Among the many hallmarks of the aging process in both mice and humans is a progressive decline in immune function 1httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B1 2httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B2 This is demonstrable in the diminished response of the elderly to vaccination against viral and bacterial pathogens 1httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B1 This fact compounds the more serious problem of the increased susceptibility of the elderly to infection in general and to serious and frequently lifethreatening infection of the respiratory tract with respiratory viruses such as influenza A virus IAV respiratory syncytial virus and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus SARSCoV This decline in immune function with age has been attributed to defects or alterations in both the innate and the adaptive immune system 1httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B1 2httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B2 In this issue of the JCI Zhao and coworkers provide compelling evidence for a novel mechanism of immune dysfunction in aging mice 3httpswwwjciorgarticlesview61367B3 They demonstrate that the migration of respiratory DCs RDCs from the lungs to the lung draining lymph nodes DLNs in response to infection with several different respiratory viruses is markedly diminished with increasing age Impaired RDC migration is mediated by the arachidonic acid AA metabolite prostaglandin D2 PGD2 basal expression of which Zhao and coworkers show is increased in the respiratory tract with age and is further upregulated in response to infection in a pathogendependent fashion They further demonstrate that blockade of either PGD2 synthesis or action partially reverses the defect in RDC migration resulting in an enhanced adaptive immune response to infection and increased survival These findings have interesting potential implications for both control of respiratory virus infection and vaccine efficacy in the elderly|1 I dont comment often but I must say this you are helping Much more than you think Thank you Thank you very much|1 Im a mathematician not an epidemiologist so dont know how you test for an unspecified virus but the spike in cases sounds incredibly useful|1 rinstantkarmaWhat a douche though|0 Somebodys being generous|1 I was at this last weekend and there were loads of people The hype for this weekend is even bigger cause its closer to st pattys day Im not saying its right but even if you cancel the busses the bars will still be packed with college kids getting blacked out in the daytime Theyll just take Ubers instead|0 Dudegal was talking straight sense though|1 This is the perfect summary of the situation Shared|1 Yeesh here in Japan the government has just announced theyd waive Corona test fees to whoever wants to get tested Symptoms or no symptoms|0 I live in Kentucky and about 13 of the bourbon distilleries are open and there is a movement in my town to eat out as much as possible to support our local restaurants I will never buy from a business that puts their employees lives at risk needlessly Seriously visiting a bourbon distillery or eating out is not a necessity They have closed schools and the community center to help with social distancing but its not stopping people My family and I are isolated completely at this point including not allowing visitors as the majority of my friends thought it was a good idea to go to a crowded bar last night We need stricter measures at this point|1 Good God Lemon|1 The point of cancelling schools is for student to stay at home and limit going out to crowded placesso if high school students still go out babysitting or gathering in pubs and stuffs cancelling schools and activities would be for nothing|0 What about daycares All the schools are closing but now Im stuck with all the kids that arent at school Why do we have to stay open if everything else closes|0 By contrast the SK test has few false negativeshttpswwwgooglecomampswwwbloombergcomampnewsarticles20200304southkoreatestshundredsofthousandstofightvirusoutbreak sensitivity rates of over 95 according to the director of the Korean Society for Laboratory MedicineHow does it achieve this My suspicion is it is less specific than the US test|0 C you should go out because to achieve herd immunity 95 of the population needs to get infected|0 Are you by chance talking about rw CatskillsAsking for a friend|1 Even if they cant stop it they can probably slow it down enough so that it doesnt spread to everyone at once which should help with healthcare Or they can slow it down enough and hope that the virus mutates to become less lethal|1 I work FIFO Fly In Fly Out My workplace is taking it very seriously A lot of our employees fly in from major transportation hubs transferring in Montreal Toronto Vancouver Calgary Edmonton etc to reach the work siteSo far from what Ive heard we have cancelled all visits from international contractors and also higher ups we had a new VP that actually flies from an office in England that has been stood down for the foreseeable future Because we work FIFO we have cafeterias at site and theyve cancelled the buffet style and the kitchen staff will now serve up the plates instead of people serving themselves which when it was introduced I had listed all of my health concerns because people arent as clean as they like to think and everyone will be made to go through handwashing stations before entering public areasAllegedly havent had it confirmed yet they will also be getting a temperature gun thing and will soon be checking everyones temperture as they arrive to the work site and also when they leave Theyve also increased the rate at which the cleaning staff are cleaning regular touched surfaces door handles handrailings etcI know a lot of my coworkers will likely say that the measures are a bit extreme but I for one am thankful that theyre taking such strong preventative measures since our workplace could be viewed as very similar to a cruise ship and all it would take is one person coming up there with the virus to shut the whole operation down|1 weird there is nothing yet in Ottawa I assume it is and acting accordingly|0 Thanks for starting with an insult Youre 100 wrong here are the reasonsAMost cases are never reported or tested or counted in the total vs death rates So the death rate is wildly off by an order of magnitudeBThe Diamond princess is like all old people and they havent had nearly a 15 death rateCMost cases seem to be fairly mild with only a small percentage rising to the need to get tested and only a 20 of those cases turning serious You can have it spreading undetected or you can have everyone getting being deathly ill You cant have it both ways like you doomers want Im sorry that your life is so boring and shitty that youre hoping for societal collapse|0 Way to scaremonger Jesus Christ|0 The CDC was founded with a single goal stop the spread of epidemics in the USThey receive 11 billion dollars a year|0 Ive not been on here for a few days as its done my head in Been anxiety free for over 5 years and its back worse than ever Luckily i know what anxiety is these days and it will pass|1 Its Tocilizumab Thanks for the info didnt know about that drug Though I dont understand what motivated them to go from using all of the already known drugs to this one Could it be that they have a different strain or maybe this is the most effective one since they mishandled the use of all of the above acting too late It is very interesting|1 Got it My dog is going to be well cared for|1 That has very little to do with what I wrote though Are you worried about this voyage And what does your best entail if you dont mind me asking |1 Thank you for sharing |1 My 98 year old great aunt lives there My aunt looks after her and I dont think she leaves the house at all She has dementia|1 I thought usually diseases affect kids like under 5 pretty harshly as they have no immune systemthe fuck dudethat true for maybe 5 months only but they still covered by mothers immune system initially|1 It already is China had officially acknowledged 570 cases by the time Wuhan was locked down NYC alone has almost that many cases already even with their reduced testing Even if they shut down right now it would already be worse than Wuhan in a few weeks and every day they delay means exponentially more will die|0 Ah yes the bear that just walked into our house is a natural part of this urban environment this is his habitat Dont stop him from eating your face thatd be interfering with nature|1 Vinegar maybe I do a lot of my cleaning with it not sure how well it disinfects though|0 I read it was strategy based Classifying it as a pandemic basically means weve accepted that its here its spreading we cant contain it but we can slow it down Before pandemic classification the goal was still to stop this|0 Since 2008 and earlier no doubt thats just when it got bad the amount of people working parttime who cant get fulltime jobs has sky rocketed in the US So now a portion of people who already cant get enough hours got their hours cut|0 SARS and MERS didnt become persistent health threats like Covid19 is predicted to become Once the outbreaks were over there was no motivation or financial incentive to keep developing vaccines Also nobody with half a brain has said well see a vaccine earlier than next year|1 Comes down to liquidity If you need cash now for supplies what ever its not a bad idea I expect allot of bankruptcies in the coming months anyway and leveraging unsecured debt isnt a bad concept To each there own Stay safe our there|1 Ill always remember that Ford was the only auto manufacturer to not take the bailoutWHOA ITS CAKE DAY 11 years|0 No its a pandemic they are just saying in a PC way|0 Alternative headline Florida man takes heroic action encourages others to do the same|1 Haha exactly each day brings new figures each day just add another polynomial term to the trend to make sure the number of roots for the equation matches every data point|1 Its primarily the particle size that is concerning As far as viruses go this virus is tiny thats why its suspected airborne There is speculation that the masks arent effective but it is still unknown Apparently our wise government thought 40 million for a nation of 340 million is enough so obviously theyve got to go to medical techs just in case they do work You need three a day minimum btw They actualy are counterproductive when wet and they get nasty fast What pisses me off is that work should have begun last month to begin production of masks Theyll take two months to get up and running Id put money on the fact that the government has done nothing Im sure 3m has started additional tooling but a commercial company is not going to take the risks requited Many plants must be built quickly and all will be useless once the crisis is over Private industry is not going to invest adequately to cover the shortage Nothing solid has been said about anything being done about it|0 Can the EU seize patents like the US can This situation totally calls for that|1 Were Canadian we would start by asking nicely then progress to recommending sternly and after finally calmly expressing our disappointment passive aggressively build it ourselves lol|1 Its pretty normal in metro Detroit too very high Asian population|1 No shit Sherlock|0 The USA only picks on poor places with oil but without a real military|0 Thats not what Im sayingIm giving reasons why it might not be as bad in the US as in China That isnt a value judgement and no where in there did I say China Sucks or The US is inherently better Many countries are handling this better than the US Taiwan South Korea Japan and Hong Kong are all handling the situation better than the USIf you want a value judgement Ill give you oneAt this point the sub seems to be heavily in bed with the CCP narrative so Im guessing this will fall on deaf ears but what Im critical of and will continue to be critical of is the lying and the fact that the Chinese government arrested medical doctors early in the pandemic when it had a chance of being containedTrump has done nothing of the sort If anything his blaise handling is in line with what the WHO has been recommending because of the initial narrative pushed by the CCPIm not trying to defend him by saying the truth He has been handling this poorly But you dont seem to understand the severity of the initial lies if you think theyre comparable to Trumps incompetency This wouldnt be a global pandemic if the CCP was open and tried to contain the virus early in the spread instead of actively arresting anyone talking about itPart of my criticism here is precisely because I DONT view all the Chinese dying as numbers I think that could have been preventedStopping a virus once its spread to the extent this did around midlate January when the rest of the world started waking up to it is much much harder than when its small The possible points of infection were increasing exponentially during that interim period before we started seeing infections here We should have closed the airports and created mandatory screenings at travel sites and I hold the Trump administration responsible for that but it would only have slowed it down It takes long enough to incubate there were enough people traveling and there are enough asymptomatic people that it was probably already entering the USThis should go without saying but anyone who beats up Chinese people because of this is a stupid and disgusting person In no way does any of what Im saying endorse that|0 why am I still going to work in NYC if I dont care about getting fired should I stay home|0 Fuck em Maybe they should have done something other than buy back their stocks with the Republican tax scam of 2017|0 Not only the two highest league gamesall the games are banned this weekend even those for the kids|0 Retail worker here When I need to goto the hospital I dont goto the one 5 mines away I go to the one 15 miles away because I can fine financial hardship paperwork and get it written off|0 If you have comfortable and safe living conditions here in CB and are not in a high risk group Id suggest staying put US is getting hit hard CB is not as isolated as it used to be but its still pretty sparsely populated by comparison to most places This is an advantage in this case NS also has great doctors despite what sub says and researchers and experts Not as backwater as some make us out to be Whatever you decide practice distancing and hygiene and check on those around you who may need assistance We can slow this thing down and maybe get ahead of it if we dont panic and act smart|1 Ok once it is over|1 Shame on you for trying to push a political agenda in such trying times when people are literally dying and suffering in an epidemicpretty rich coming from a staunch proccp sycophant in Singapore whose been shitting on HKers on the front lines all year|0 Yeah but fuck China|0 Boost that immune system guys|1 Yeah wish we could go back in time|1 Tolkien lived through both World Wars the Spanish Flu the Great Depression and the Cold War The world will go on|0 Why dont I know I dont have freedom of speech|0 Fun fact South Korea has 1368 cases per 100K Iceland has 1373 China only has 582|1 Congratulations for you Its good for you to stop it|1 I think that Dream Princess cruise departed more than 2 weeks ago so that was near the beginning of the outbreak internationally and people were not as concerned and went on their preplanned trips Hopefully people arent departing on any cruises these days at least not in Asia|1 Right Should say beneficiary|1 im on day 3 of antibiotics still feel like trash how bad is it in your state|0 I hope the pensioners that BJ wants to throw under the bus for his little science experiment remember this come the next election day That is if theyre even around |1 You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink Youre doing the best of your abilities and Im sure your fellow parishioners are grateful for your help Many people wont take this seriously until it becomes more of a real effect I didnt worry about it until I knew someone affected and now Im taking precautions to limit the possibility of spread You have a lot of empathy and it will not go unnoticed Youre doing good work|1 Gov Hogan is sweating tonight as well|1 Not really most of the latest cases they dont know where they got infected and they never went abroad|0 In advanced nations those who die of flu are very largely essentially elderly people dying of natural causes and old age and its often a merciful blow of deathComparing it to an outbreak of a potentially highly deadly virus is a false equivalency that is absurd to the extremeIts pure whataboutism They may as well compare 2019nCoV to civil conflicts around the globe|0 Not really I am from HK The government is far worse than the US government It reacted very slowly never close the border with China allowed more than 400 K HKer and 300 K Chinese tourists coming back or visiting HK for CNY without quarantine or monitoring during the height of the outbreak tests fewer than three thousand cases and has been very ineffective in tracking cases Yet people wear masks and perform social distancing measures since late January We save ourselves|0 The Chinese government did cover it up We only know because of whistleblowing doctors who were fiercely punished for spreading lies|0 I find it worrying when people use Wuhan as a worstcase example Lets remember that a full Chinastyle lockdown was put in place with only around 500 cases and two large hospitals built with MANY ICU beds It can get a lot worse|0 gave out trillions of dollars in tax cuts to corporations and rich folksWhat is your source that says there has been trillions of dollars in tax cuts lol I think you dont have a lick of understanding of what youre talking about if you talk out of your ass like that I mean one quick google search and youll see the budget for the year is around 33 trillion then youll see that the budget has been at the near same levels for the past 45 years despite the tax cuts Lolhttpswwwthebalancecomcurrentusfederalgovernmenttaxrevenue3305762|0 How do they fail so hard with screening I am fucking livid right now its a specially charted plane to Bring ppl home And they have No checks Just let them run out in a crowd We need a revolution|0 The problem is that people either care too much or not at all I was out today and this family with coughing children was just hanging out in public They dont give a shit People are eating Who cares Theres a new contagious disease that people are worried about Well we dont care Well just let our children cough all over everyone in public|1 Your link includes a subheader on the history of their anticommunist stanceSo honestly I dont trust then and I dont trust the CCP either|0 I wasnt sure how old middle age was considered but quite a few places I checked said in keeping with longer life expectancy 65 is now the upper bracket for middle age then 65 is elderly|0 Its the same doctor that said no one should worry|0 Well here in the states theyre mass hoarding toilet paper For whatever reason But not food Says much for our education system None of this surprises me Unfortunately|1 no but I understand you Me as someone living in Shanghai used do same thing as you and got called woman everytime stopped doing that long ago not worth my time|0 Indeed The above analogy was a False equivalence fallacy This graph UK is supposed to be following is a Economicangle Led approach Because the 2nd hypothetical peak which the UK wants to avoid from a Early Response approachlike other countries are doing can be mitigatedhandled at that stage because enough time would have passed for everyone to manage this But it will be a quite a bit more expensive to maintain that to push that 2nd bump down UK it looks like doesnt want that prolonged economic liability at that stage to happen and has made the calculations that even if there are early deaths the economic loss will be less than the loss from alternative approach|0 Health Select Commitee March 17th 2020Discussion on social distancingJeremy Hunt What about going to Sunday lunch with their family and their grandchildren yes or noSir Patrick Vallance Chief Scientific Adviser They shouldnt do it Nohttpsyoutubekt1jc8CVlYYt2735|1 Its not like we have suddenly had a lack of supplies we always have Hopefully this will change that|0 Well in America its about the clicksrevenue and hidden agendas Very few news outlets are not driven by one of the two At least in China the government is for the general public There are definitely still corrupt officials but A LOT less than say 1020 years ago|1 Its a relief to see that Im not the only one|1 Nope Dont blame you for not wanting to goLondon is a hotbed of grossness as it is Blerghhh|0 Its not about the place itself but rather about receiving the sacraments No one would be forced to go if they reopen we have free will in that regardAs Catholics we should remember especially in times like these of life after death which is unattainable without sacraments which reconcile us with GodI live in a small Irish town where churches were closed and everywhere else remained open including pubs which are places of much closer interpersonal contact Dont see anyone complaining about that though for some reason|0 Ive also seen many talking about this sub describing the commenters here as irrational and over the top panicking|0 I took a passing scroll on Instagram in the past few days what I saw was a stream of trips outs and abouts andtravelyes even to Italy enter Kristin Callivari and all of these non chalant no Covid 19 virus fun activities belonged to half if not all the influencers on social media All I can say there are two pandemic going on in our world right now Coronavirus and narcissism I get fucking emotional and pissed when I see doctors nurses and medical staff risking their own well being life sleep and basically all for this humanity only to be repaid by having these types of fuckers to not care enough if they become fast spreader or even have at least some respect for a virus of this magnitude to just stay the fuck home Stop influencing people to have fake life and start to wonder about how you became such scumbags with low morals Sorry Ive just had it with these entitled assholes|0 Hospitals in the US are only required to treat life threatening illnesses Anything beyond that and they will not help you Also this is only for hospitals that take Medicare I believe|0 I wonder how the ppl laughing will react when shit starts getting worse|0 Are we pretending we even have real democracy now Representative democracies fully captured by the forces of capital havent represented the working class for decades|1 Dont forget that he suggested to the public health experts that the flu vaccine would be a potential solution|1 Closes schools out of concern for public health and in the same breath still encourages people to go away and have fun for March Break|1 Aaaaaaannnnd a flamethrower to clean up the remaining particles in the shadows|1 Remember when Pence answered the question about why hes still shaking handsWell its part of the job he replied to the reporterx200BYEAH FFACE ITS PART OF THE JOB TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE|0 Hes the most authoritarian politician Australias ever produced a genuine fascistHe also does indeed have a strong resemblance to a potato|1 International Emergency is going to close off travel for Chinese citizen and to and from China in spite of whatever WHO said yesterday about not recommending itBy underscoring the severity of the virus to countries that might not be ready a lot of countries will dissuade travel to and from China through all their means|0 It means we left a lot of cases untested for weeks The incubation period lasts up to a month and it takes 3 weeks for the virus to kill a person once they develop symptoms and until now we havent been testing people|0 Buy masks for the people truly at risk in your family but every citizen doesnt need them The professionals of the world need them more than a fucking 20 year old Think about what youre saying It is NOT about how effective it is it is about the supply needed for the medical professionals|0 I wish we were wrong|0 Enough to potentially waste away for weeks in a hell on earth overcrowded hospital|0 An ICL whitepaper proposed a reactive approach once hospitals hit a certain percentage of capacity then social isolation comes in force once they drop below a certain value open up again Repeat until a vaccine is available or if ICU capacity stays within limitsOtherwise as you say they predicted wed just push the spike back a few monthsTo avoid a rebound in transmission these policies will need to be maintained until large stocks of vaccine are available to immunise the population which could be 18 months or more Adaptive hospital surveillancebased triggers for switching on and off populationwide social distancing and school closure offer greater robustness to uncertainty than fixed duration interventionshttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdf|0 oooh Im scared|0 Here is another point to considerWhen this virus broke out in China and the numbers were part of the public vernacularhow many of those people still chose to get on a plane go to Thailand Hong Kong a CRUISE THRU ASIA for goodness sakeI get that some people paid and would lose money so they went I get that some people never heard of it so they went Is that anyones fault though You make decisions and take risks You took the gamble and lost Seems harsh but it has a ring of truth really|0 Please explain what voting Tory has to do with this|1 I work on a toll road and fix the machines everyone uses Even if there is an order to quarantine Im considered essential and would still have to go to work I been talking about hazard pay if this happens on dear ears|1 RIP God be with you and your loved ones amen|1 this is so apocalyptic it doesnt feel real literally feels like a shitty dystopian movie|0 selfish idiotic These two do not correlate very well I think|0 I am happy to learn that there is a new drive through testing facility in my county We are currently the 1 county in our state for confirmed coronovavirus casesWhen the new drive through gets going the numbers are probably going to explode But that is not a bad thing To the extent the numbers are catching previously undiagnosed cases it just means we are getting better dataWe are not going to turn this thing around until we have accurate actionable numbers ie no trump numbers|1 Underreaction can also increase economic risks The worst case scenario where coronavirus spreads like flu but has much higher mortality would cause trilliondollar scale damageA travel ban would cause a negligible economic damage compared to pandemic worst case scenario|0 Yes|1 Good thing you dont have any family members or friends in that age range|1 I am too its funny because in this other thread active as we speak the top posts are all calling CNN very fake newshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf0zwmlwhohasaskedforcensorship|1 True I miss the days where America was more of a leader|1 Totally incorrect Did you even try to look up if there is actual science before you started making shit upFor those wanting the know the actual reasonhttpsitnhmsharvardeduflash2014thereasonfortheseasonwhyflustrikesinwinter why there are flu seasons Spoiler alert it has nothing to do with human behavior its that the virus persists longer in cold with low humidity and thus spreads faster|0 How can I be helpful|1 I bought a bunch and was going to donate them to the local hospital but I took all of mine to the dump after the CDC and surgeon general said they dont work By now theyre in a landfill near Beaumont TX if anyone needs any|1 If youre healthy already isolated and have provisions to weather the next few weeks it might make sense|1 Yeah but Korea isnt like that Every country has widely varying statistics|0 Because the medical capitalism has an effective hold on the regulatoryIts often called regulatory capture Why do something quick and cheap and effective when you can do it slowly and profitably|1 Sure Try to send the military to Idaho Just remember to bring body bags lots and lots of body bags|1 Must be nice to be a worldrenowned actorbut I sucked in drama class|0 The bravest of the brave they truly are angels|1 Incredible amounts of testing and contact tracing like South Korea is doing httpswwwsciencemagorgnews202003coronaviruscaseshavedroppedsharplysouthkoreawhatssecretitssuccess|1 As an American this effectively cures post 911ism This is now officially the biggest happening most people still alive have ever experienced on American soil and it is not just an American problem This makes 911 look like a car accident|1 Why are non essential businesses still open I never thought I would be in favor of a federal home quarantine issue but here we are|1 Just because its commonplace doesnt mean that its good or right Those bankruptcies screwed a heck of a lot of workers out of jobs and pensionsYou cant just wash over that and say that organising assets like this doesnt have a hugely negative effect on the everyday worker|1 Hope they dont know where you live when the food shortage hitsDont tell people what youre doin Theyll come hungry And when people are hungry out of their minds They dont care|0 Im a pizza delivery driver and Im super worried about having to come into contact with so many people Our store was given gloves to use on the make line but of course that only lasted one day|1 I do But shes better a few states away |1 He gonna be made into dead person|0 If we could disentangle property taxes from school funding in America this could be a possibility for all school districts Not every school has the resources alas|0 Nope We are good Our family really isnt worried over this|0 Absolutely its tough to find the balance between caution and panic nowadays|0 Theyll do what the conservative state propaganda channel does and reverse heel and pretend to have never said what they said and caused the damage they did and blame Democrats for not fixing it for them or something httpsiimgurcomu7YowTspng|0 As an Italian it hurts to say this but youre absolutely right|0 Italy seems to be following what CCP did in Wuhan and the whole nation In this way One Belt One Road Initiative is completed I feel like watching a world history moment After all this disaster ChinaItaly relationship will surely be stronger Im neither Chinese nor Italian|1 Nobody comes out of this looking well tbfWere all behind Mongolia|1 Does COVID19 react in a way that suggests it will be back next year as our new seasonal flu|0 You can try say something bad against CCP see if they will ban you|0 My dad lives in Idaho and Im so worried Im all the way in Texas and its going to be a bitch to get to him if he gets sick Ive been blowing up his phone with ARE YOU PREPARED DO YOU HAVE FOOD AND WATER calls and he thinks Im an idiot but damn I do not want to drive across the country in a panic in the middle of a pandemic|0 i hate to be that guy but it probably isnt literally half|0 A friend of mine has two kids and is living with her motherHer parents are split and I asked why her mother hasnt gone to stay with her dad they are on good terms or why my friend hasnt taken the kids and gone to stay with her bfHer response there is no point|1 Well I read that these are hubei province numbers more to come|1 Does this guy actually think that in this bizarre fictional future that Americans wouldnt start making their own face masks if they couldnt import them from anywhere else Or maybe find an alternative solution I dont think amazon prime items are international bargaining chips for world wars|0 If you werent expecting something like this and think it didnt already happen in China you havent been paying attention This is what it has come to This move was expected but no less reprehensible due to its predictability|0 One would hope that the tracing methodology would improve all sorts of barriers will have been overcome cultural resistance language information from carriers as in airlinesMaybe but then acting in the opposite direction as numbers increase wont this get exponentially harder incredibly quickly and before too long office shutdowns and sick leave and isolation in the teams doing this contact tracing is going to hamper efforts Also according to thishttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfgxlsz456todayfk7g1sl guys table the increase in the percentage of confirmed cases compared to total tests has increased 56Im still not sure how you can reconcile using an adjusted Reduced rate of projection but using the number of confirmed cases as your starting point Seems to me that this will clearly result in an underestimate if you use your 15 method If you had gone back in time and used the same exponential growth rate and youd started on the 26th of February when we had 13no cases picked that date as is the start of my working in excel when the data starts to get less noisy you would have projected that today we would have 9198 Obviously a significant underestimate as we have 456 confirmed cases today To me this suggests your method is clearly flawedTo use the reduced rate youd surely have to somehow figure out the total number of infected and then start from that using the 15 infected rateDo you have any working for how you got to 15 Id be really intrigued to see it You seem to be pretty adamant about it so presumably you have some justificationOne of us will be proven wrong in about 13 days Hopefully it is me Haha nervous laughter P|1 were in for a very strange 23 months coming up|0 We are witnessing darwinism in real life unfortunately its gonna destroy the rest of us |0 Its actually about how rich you are|1 Mother nature evolving a virus that travels across the world hitting the church in Deugu and then the Catholic Church there is a prophecy that says Pope Francis will be the last ever Pope Im low key hyped|0 ow the more severe symptoms appear later on and given Chinas air pollution maybe it will just be a while until notable cases of interest show up in the WestUh nobody gets kids shots for flu do they I have never ever heard of that And yes kids are sick all the time And yes it could kill elderly persons My mom has declined visits from my kids many many times due to fear of getting pneumonia which she gets easily Its just life and there arent vaccines for everything anyhow|0 You are supposed to be reducing the national risk of breaking the medical system by not having the entire system inundated with millions of cases of flu in about two weeksIts not meaninglessit really does make a difference |0 I see Ill have to see if I can find more info on the subject|0 Roanoke VA area hereSams Club is or at least was two days ago out of TP None to be found at Target or Kroger either All of those places are out of the sanitizing wipes youre supposed to use at the cart retrieval and the meat sections No Purell to be seenThat said when the St Patricks Day celebration and parade was officially canceled yesterday people in the local FB groups went nuts with rage Like foaming keysmash god damn you cowards ruining my life rage so I dont expect that people are actually going to selfisolate in large enough numbers any time soonHad a funny moment as my partner was checking us out at Sams Im mildly immunodepressed and have a gene disorder that affects the circulatory system so I figured I wouldnt stand there in that crowd and I went to look at flower bulbs instead as I find garden stuff soothingA white woman in her middle sixties who came up while I was sorting through the peonies and dahlias She asked what I liked to plant and talked about how much she liked the elephant ear bulbs last year but theyre so expensive I said just do like us Filipinos and go to the Asian grocer and pull em out of the taro or ube binsAt that point she finally really looked at me and without another word she grabbed her cart and ran away from me Guess she hadnt realized before that instant that I was Asian I just stood there jaw dropped staring at her rapid retreatI and mine are going to be okay I think wed already done our toiletpaper buy for the next couple of months before this hit and I can my own food for enjoyment so weve got a fair amount of food If we have to quarantine for more than six weeks therell be some discomfort in my household but were good for a while at least Were gonna get tired of stew though We did on our final shop get some goodies against foodfrustration Ice cream brownie mix potato chips all this stuff Ive been denying myself while Im in Look Hot In That Dress mode leading to my upcoming autumn wedding|1 Were living through a significant paradigm shift in geopolitics|1 This virus seems to mainly kill the elderly and those with weak lungs the exact demographic one would be trying to remove from a society to improve economic demographics The elderly are a drain and state funded medical care for sick also costs too much Why wouldnt the CCP want this to spread|0 Stores could do that easily by increasing prices to reflect needwant The government made that illegal so now people can buy out the stock of an entire store|0 Im going to die laughing at the WHOs handling of this before the virus gets me|0 Who the hell makes a living delivering just hummus Is this Seinfeld Is this Mike Vandeley|0 or the mites that affected LEDs and caused factories to need to literally be burned to the groundWhat|0 Agreed They sequenced analyzed these samples extremely quickly|1 Next years IRS tax question Did you receive any financial relief from the government in 2020 due to Covid19Theyll get their money one way or another|1 I lived in Mesa for a while Nothing survives Arizona heat in dead summer|0 it takes some serious tegridy to not willingly infect lots of people to make cash in 2020|0 Very noble aims here |1 Give me my liberty bucks or give me death|0 i think its more for safety|1 Some of us were saying this could be a horrible pandemic They were mocked because its only infected a few thousand people in China it hasnt even killed many people|0 I cried|0 China was about as densely populated 200 yrs ago as the usa is today China has seen many epidemics and survived even with the 1820 level of population density Chinas population in 1820 was still larger than the usa population of 2020 Adjust for area wise its roughly the sameThis is usa specific China and India has grown exponentially The Americas experienced a few plaguespestilenceepidemics that reduced the Native American population so that might be helpful in having less population density in the Americas in general but not sure and not interested in googling|0 Here in the US how would one know that they are specifically infected with COVID19 since test kits currently are scarce|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 I have hope a vaccine will arrive eventually Theyve already begun clinical trialshttpswwwniaidnihgovnewseventsnihclinicaltrialinvestigationalvaccinecovid19beginsA commercial vaccine is still many months away but at we can see its happening|1 No one in multimillion companies cares about human suffering they care about cheap workforce and profit I bet its their only concern right now as always anyway|1 If you look at the data on the CDC website Wuhan is a huge outlier when it comes to deaths throughout china and I am thinking that could be chalked up to hospital overpopulation If you consider Wuhan an outlier the death rate throughout the rest of China is 075 Overall the death rate in China including Wuhans numbers is 401 Here is a summary of the data I foundWith WuhanTotal Confirmed 78034Total Recovered 60222Total Deaths 3129Without WuhanTotal Confirmed 10253Total Recovered 9904Total Deaths 73With the steps were taking hopefully we can flatten the curve not overwhelm our medical system and keep the mortality rate 1 at the end of it allSource httpscoronavirusjhuedumaphtmlhttpscoronavirusjhuedumaphtml|0 Doesnt really surprise me The WHO will do anything for money Theyre a political organization Not sure what anyone expects out of them They do whats best for themselves Damn everyone else|0 Nah it was by the university of technology or something|0 Im just sayin that its not even close to the fault of 150000000 peopleThose in charge of large businesses and government are the reason a bunch of people are going to dieYou are upset at the group that is going to die for being the reason that they are going to dieIt makes no sense90 of Americans have very little power over the fact that we didnt have the testing we neededI just think that your hatred is in the wrong place brother peace|0 Side effects may include death|0 If you have any donate them to your local hospital Maybe save 1 for each of your family members|1 Duck and Cover was not bad advice by the way It just has to be applied in appropriate situations For example when that meteorite came down in russia a teacher literally saved a class of children by getting them to duck and cover before window glass shattered from the impact The kids were lucky enough the teacher was old enough to remmeber the duck and cover videos|1 I just want to know if my semen can transmit Corunna|1 The owners wont do anything about it even if there was an SOE declared Think about all the lost profits turning away all the guests|1 During the 1918 epidemic the mayor of StLouis shut the city down and got shunned for it Philadelphia decided to go ahead with a support the troops rally In the following weeks Philly had overrun hospitals and then bodies piling up in the streets meanwhile StLouis didnt even have overrun hospitals|1 Hello Im an early childhood teacher in New Zealand here is a website I use to get ideas on activities I can do with the kids I hope this helps httpswwweducationgovtnzearlychildhoodteachingandlearninglearningtoolsandresourcesplayideas|1 Flatten the curve as best as YOU can Hang in there|1 Im pretty sure this is in the pipeline for the peakWhen needed private hospitals will accommodate NHS patients|1 Most people working in nonprofessional and nonunion lower wage industries will still go to work unless an emergency law is passed requiring employers to grant time off to sick employees Or public pressure is such that companies grant unpaid time offHaving worked big box retail in America I can assure you employees go to work with the flu and other illnesses As long as you punch the time clock on time for your shift youre golden Doesnt matter if you spend 30 of your shift sneezing and wiping mucous and your work apron is filled with snotty contagious tissues or if you have to hang out in the bathroom vomiting Usually if you are sick enough theyll send you home The almighty timeclockThere might be some people who would be OK losing their job in order not to infect people at work but few Americans have this luxury|0 Well I live in Atlanta so I figured it out lolVery cool though|1 Please let it kill Pence Please let it kill Pence Please lord|0 Thank god our favorite celebrities are healthy again the pandemic is cured Lets ignore veerything until Lady Gaga gets sick|1 President Trump has NOT cut fundinghttpsabcnewsgocomPoliticstrumpcutcdcsbudgetdemocratsclaimanalysisstoryid69233170 he had PROPOSED a budget cut for the CDC but it has not been implemented He has since reversed course and asked for increased funding|1 Love this comment|1 if you bring those on the cruise ship ashore his numbers go upthis fucking cunt doesnt care about keeping people alive hes only concern is not looking like the fuck up he isAn alternative httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus|0 They opened up the new hospital which explains a lot of this This doesnt actually mean 1100 people suddenly turned for the worst it means people who were already in bad condition are able to get attention nowThe serious condition figure is not horrible it just means oxygen saturation below 93 That could mean bad flu symptoms or mild pneumonia but doesnt inherently mean death|0 I mean this is a bit anecdotal but how come we havent seen nearly as many cases in hot and humid climates like Africa India and the Middle East|1 You used proved my point that I am using data and rational thought while u use ad hominem attacks and fear monger|0 Yeah Im a bit worried about that sub doom gets upvoted anything not doom is called anecdotal evidence and dismissed The actual articles that are posted are fine and I totally get people discussing them and getting negative but I hope people are taking it with a grain of salt|1 I wouldnt be surprised Everyone at work is sick All I hear is people coughing and hacking all day|0 My partner ward nurse said shes just had a big briefing and they are currently in the infectious disease wards quarantined everything is OK and they are being monitored and they will be updated regularly the staff on the situation|1 If your cardsystem heats up in normal circumstances I think play it safe and dont do it|1 Oops Yes I meant to X|1 Thanks Biochemist Now I sound like the paranoid nutjob I probably am sNot a Biochemist and this is a sarcastic humorous comment because I wrote a long comment on water and didnt see this|1 South Korea is doing great Looking for the impending downfall of the CCP and the imprisonment of the WHO leadership|1 I doubt mine will even give us that|0 This crisis is definitely going to transform Chinese society culturally Things like online grocery delivery just saw customer acquisition costs drop dramatically so they will reach break even now Changing peoples shopping habits in normal times was nigh on impossible and required fantastic amounts of marketing spend Things like drone deliveries and fully automated grocery stores are now necessities and not frivolous tech gadgetryRemote work remote education and remote healthcare delivery are being introduced to a lot of people who were formerly hesitant to try new things but are now forced toPeople thought the low latency of the new 5G network is mostly good for real time gaming but now it turns out that being able to remotely drive vehicles and operate machinery with low latency for those scenarios where fully autonomy is not yet possible is pretty useful for reducing the need for physical human contact and presenceWhat is really interesting is the attitude toward the urban vs rural question As society adapts to doing things online people are starting to realize that crowding into cities may not be the best option going forward If you can work remotely get quality education for your kids online and have access to good doctors via an app there is really no reason to endure the outrageous housing prices of big cities|1 Oh I misunderstood the sentence Thanks|1 Youre ignoring the fact that hospitals get overwhelmed by those who need it let alone those who kinda dont|0 Oh fuck I have a big thing of Ibuprofen and no Acetaminophen lol thank you for your response tho Im somewhat of a hypochondriac and Im panicking a little bit lol|0 How does an offshore oil worker get infected why are they not saying|0 Yeah outdated Remember we only discovered this in December and actual real information is being suppressed Heres an article that claims the virus spreads by breathing instead of coughing and sneezing like the flu Another concerning thing is that the university thinks there is a strong potential of people still being contagious after they have recoverednot permanently but still contagious for an unknown amount of time China made a claim today that it is aerosolizedlike measlesl and can stay contagious in the air for 30min httpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003studyhighlightseasespreadcovid19viruses|0 So did you just take the population of NYC and multiply it by 17 Thats really bad|0 i had them before tasted great|1 Great illustrations Top quality Is it okay if I published them on my social media channels and linked to your Instagram page|1 I work for a very well knownregarded health system and they recently sent out an email saying that we shouldnt be wearing masks unless were sick despite 34 months ago when the flu season was starting we were highly encouraged to wear masks and encourage patients to wear them Now the official reason is it doesnt prevent infection One of my coworkers who has been wearing a mask for weeks has been bullied about it by coworkers and a fucking doctor Oh and any time someone comes in saying they think they might have it our response has to be sorry theres no confirmed cases in this state yet so theyre not testing here its great lol|1 Take this with a very grain of salt but I read somewhere else of the virus being able to jump the bodybrain border and thus be able to let people forget how to breath I assume they mean that with the title|0 If this is the case then does it speak to the lack of severity of the illness If people really have been catching this in comparable numbers for months and we see not notable increase in ILIs and deaths theres a silver lining to that no|0 This is a terrible paper I cant believe Lancet publishes such a thingThe Lancet published the Andrew WakefieldhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673605756968fulltext paper that kicked off the vaccinesautism scare So yeah given their history I have no trouble believing theyd publish garbage like this They really are the British tabloid equivalent of a medical journal|0 lol ohio has been barely affected of all places to cancel an event|1 It is so weird in the US right now A week ago it was all this is just the flu Then a few days ago it seemed like it was suddenly serious Now today It seems like their overreacting closing all the schoolsLike any tragedy if you prevent it you can never truly fathom what its impact would have been This will either be a disaster or an overreaction|0 They should really pay them more like maybe 100 per day|1 As much as I dont want to wish harm on anyone no matter who they are I will have little sympathy for that guy if he tests positive|0 Nothing was restocked from when I was there SaturdayThats because they only get 1 truck each week if the product is all gone it will be all gone for another week Were not WalMart but a tiny ass storeYoull have bread soda because the vendors come in every couple days Frozen fooddairy is also once a week and is now done by DG employees because they want to save moneyAlso no restocking is done at night only recovery And most stores dont have any cleaning supplies to store use to sanitize the storeAnd at 7 am or 8 am the store is dead anywaysCorporate likes to make shit up as usual I dont even know how they would enforce a senior only hour most stores usually have one cashier inside and theyre usually busy doing many things and thats it they cant have someone at the door|0 With 33 Man that sucks but sounds a bit like genetic bad luck because its not very often in that ageHope you will not get Corona definitely a problem|0 Im in Georgia I can promise you that outside of Atlanta the only thing that has changed is that schools are closed People arent changing daily habits at all Until other places get shut down its not going to get better|1 THANK YOUI thought everyone else forgot this bright shining moment of verbal incompetenceI say this all the time and no one else gets it|1 Me and my Vietnamese friend volunteer at a daycare and some of the kids are afraid to go near her Its pretty screwed up how this disease affects people other than hurtingkilling them|1 Ha|1 can we get this man a bed somewhere in a hospital No thats the exact opposite you want A hospital is a place where sick and weak are If you do not need to be in a hospital you do not want to be in a hospital Home isolation means this man is little risk to anyone He doesnt need an isolation ward he doesnt need constant attention scrubbing in an scrubbing out etc|0 Most of my symptoms seem to have passed so I feel better than I did but I still have the tight chest feels like I cant fill my lungs completely and I have a little coughing fit every now and then Everything else is gone for now but I have had the temperature and sore throat coming and going over the days so most likely this is a cold with some bad respiratory elementsMy mum has developed a cough too but Im pretty sure hers is just the result of sinus problems shes been having since December shes coughing up phlegm and mucusAlso thanks for the idea I might get a clear plastic bucket just in case|1 Politcal bashing The party in power have been resonsible for the cuts that have resulted in us being so woefully unprepared and there policy so far is to allow 40000000 people to become infected with only 5000 ventilators available At a 25 day doubling rate and 1200 confirmed cases only testing those with serious symptoms so far we can expect somewhere around 10000 serious cases at the minimum if we quarantined yesterday 10 days of doubling with 614 days for symptoms to present Regardless of political affiliation I feel that they deserve bashingEdit wrote 15k instead of 10 by accident|0 Thank you I also read about another historian passed away but there are too much info on Weibo I forgot to save it|1 Uhh yeah Id love to stay home but my boss thinks differently profitsoverwellbeing|1 Im a primary care physician I would add to this that as well as protecting yourself we need to protect our most vulnerable My suggestion is when you are ENTERING and leaving grocery storesanywhere where you will be touching things you should sanitize your hands While it seems to be not a terrible virus for the young and healthy it can be pretty bad for the elderly and the pregnant reduced immune system as well as people who are immunocompromised or have other lungheart diseases Lets keep both ourselves and others safe |1 Europe is such a nice country |1 I think it was originally thought to come from a snake virus which was similar But newer studies have shown it is more closely related to a strain in the pangolins Since we cannot be sure exactly where it came from they are just looking for the most similar ones and assuming that is the version of the virus that mutated I assume he had not seen the references to the pangolin when he commented|0 a proper mask is a part though covering the tear ducts sealed goggles is also an important part as with all the other precautionsI wouldnt doubt itWere all working off of partial or misinformation Who knows whats actually 100 effective|1 Down 1293 Solid guesstimate|1 so many good ideas|1 Beating someone up is not goodHowever masks dont really help prevent you from getting sick because 1 Most people dont use them properly Youre not supposed to wear them all day long In a medical setting youre supposed to wear them to see one patient then take it off and throw it away then get another one for the next patient For personal use you should be discarding the mask more frequently2 Theres lots of evidence that it is mostly spread via respiratory droplets that end up on contact points3 Masks typically make you touch your face more if you wear them for a long period of time because they are itchy and such on your face especially if youve not worn one in awhile and due to the touch point nature of things thats much worse|0 Yeah same Im at risk for it to go sideways so thinking about who will take care of my dog if I die suddenly things like that have been making it difficult not to panic But Im not listening to the corporate dweebs trying to keep us from panicking to keep their stock market propped up another day Theyd rob you of your last moments for one more for themAnyhow Im printing this out and slapping it on my mirror|0 No San Francisco amongst other places He came down with a fever as he got home Started gradually His wife also has symptoms now They self quarantined except for the trip he made to the doc and back home They tested him for Flu and Strep and told him there were no COVID19 test kits in NC Strep and Flu were negative Between when he left CA and flew to a major NC airport hub he interacted with hundreds of people He was just 1 of the people at this event in CA Wont make the news cause hell they wont test him So they wont trace him back to the airport or the flight or all the people at the event he was at Hundreds of people exposed just from him Who knows how many cause he got it from someone How many other events are there like this How many other folks carrying it They have a COVID19 positive case in Arlington VA announced today He worked in a building around thousands of others Used the Crystal city under ground restaurants elevators etc And they want us to believe he is th eonly one|0 Specially toilet paper Lets think about this Toilet paper Would you eat or take extra showers to be clean|1 Those are decisions that governors in consultation with local health officials will make as they deem that necessary he said in response to host Chuck Todd asking about the closing of schools in some locales But other than in areas where there are individuals that have been infected with the coronavirus people need to understand that for the average American the risk does remain low|0 Nah they dont want us to knowpanic market slide playing the odds for profit|1 I know its a joke but to any Redditors who dont know DONT MIX bleach and ammonia The toxic vapors can kill you|0 this is the promise given by china to mask manufacturer too|1 This is true But they generally cant see a regular doctor because of being required to pay up front or poor accessibility|0 Not a chance i would leave my kid Luckly our house is big enough I could manage isolating my child from everyone else and take care of them|1 When I get grocery deliveries to my home I take it from them at the front door They never put a foot in my house I started doing that when I had a little dog that liked to jump up on people but now that that dog has passed on I still take them at the door Do you think Tescos delivery employees would do that for you also|1 Indeed another great example of pure political propaganda with no evidencebased backing thank you|1 Often Always lmao|1 This gives me a little hope I feel like bojo has no idea and is way out of his depths Do you have any examples of the mass action It may ease my anxiety a little I feel like Im in a bad film with no hero coming to the rescue Xx|1 I have five terriers I love my dogs now I have to worry about them getting sick|0 Ans dont forget Trump is a genius and knows a lot about the virus And he says its going to be over soon s|1 My point was that fast developed and untested vaccines can have shitty side effects The H1N1 vaccine was still worth it but who knows what side effects a rushed Covid19 vaccine could have Maybe it results in far worse things than a simple 4x increase of Narcolepsy like infertility etc instead|1 No sorry at work we deal with some cleaning companies and they are estimating 810 weeks for their next stock|0 Lmfao You think Mexican hospitals are better than US Youre a moron|1 Well that was enlightening|1 Its okay weve all been there|1 I want a bottle flair pls|1 Cool hope nobody ever wants to go on holiday ever again|1 Ill repost the quick maths I did Earlier I really hope Im wrong 66000000 people in the UK government says minimum 60 need to be infected for herd immunity Optimistically a 1 case fatality rate Realistically it could be closer to 5 once we start running out of ventilators WHO was saying 34 last time I checked but nowhere else has tried the strategy of doing almost nothing and hoping for the best so maybe we will exceed that Therefore 66000000 x 06 x 001 396000 additional deaths is about the minimum the government are implying theyre expectingTo give some context that is the equivalent of 144 x the twin tower attacks or 7071 times the 77 bombings or if these deaths all occur in 2020 then 64 more deaths in the UK this year compared to normalThis is before you factor in CFR will go up when we run out of beds in the next few weeks routine medical treatment will have to be cancelledpostponed if hospitals are overrun so people with otherwise preventable illnesses will deteriorate and die at a greater rate than normal Attrition will take out front line medical staff due to PPE shortagesMany more factors that will contributeIf we were to run the numbers again with less optimistic but still reasonable assumptions we get much worse numbers 66000000 people in UK Government delays implementing lockdowns too long and overshoots to say 70 of people infected Case fatality rate of 34 as per WHO estimate last time I checked 66000000 x 07 x 0034 1570000 additional deaths might happen if the governments assumptions are off not even by that much|0 How Its owned by a Jewish guy they hates Jews and the Rebel once fired one of their reporters for doing an interview with The Daily Stormer a news site thats closer to the alt right than the Rebel for sure|0 As a US citizen I approve this message But please let me come over first Ive been self isolating for weeks|1 At this point it should be criminal to deny testing Straight up|0 Text of articleOn Tuesday Feb 18 no Covid19 cases had been reported in Iran On Sunday the government announced 43 cases and eight deaths Some 152 cases and at least three deaths were confirmed in Italy on Sunday up from three cases on Thursday The number of infected people in South Korea jumped to 763 and six deaths in just daysAs of Monday Covid19 was detected in at least 29 countries In nations with few or no reported cases so far particularly in South America and Africa the absence of evidence shouldnt be interpreted as evidence of absence More likely it reflects lack of testingIs the Covid19 outbreak now a pandemic whether or not the World Health Organization calls it that yetIf so whats nextFirst lets get the facts straight about what can and cannot be doneIts now clear that the epidemic was never going to be contained At most its spread was slowed by the lockdown imposed in China and other countries efforts to identify infected people and anyone they might have been in contact withCont|0 Im really curious how Corona is gonna mess with the kids immune system if their body attacks the virus differently then its probably going to use that new different strategy on more stuff in the future stuff that your body needs to fight in a more traditional way|0 that can potentially save lives|1 They didnt miss the point Public health officials can cover food and other necessary items so its entirely possible that they stayed exclusively at home for 11 days Not everyone has a million errands they absolutely have to run especially at the age of 57|1 As a Brazilian Im not sure if I should apologize or not|0 martyr status can only be applied to ranking CCP members so he wont unless they make a special exemption for him that im not aware happened before|1 Cancer is slow so u will still die from coronavirus first|0 Was watching news earlier Date 221 Lester Holt on NBC labeled it as a Pandemic From my understanding Hes the first reporterofficial news source to call this virus a pandemic Is it weird that I felt a little relief when he said that made me feel like I know I wasnt crazy or playing this up in my head but it sure does make me nervous still|1 Yeah gas masks that are normally 50ish dollars are going for 250 Its gross|0 Well I think were going to find out I mean he has a literal shitstorm to navigate through now doesnt he|1 Because their government is corrupt their healthcare system is corrupt and their people are at high risk of dying Almost half of the population is overweight and has some sort of underlying health issue people cant get tested even if they want to because the US has no supplies its people no insurance and without paying extremely high Hospital prices one is refused and sent home The US will see infection numbers many times higher than that in China|0 httpswwwnytimescom20200229healthcoronavirusn95facemaskshtmlYeah pretty much washing your hands and not touching your face are the best evidenced based precautions to take|1 What is with this Its not the fucking ships fault there is a world wide outbreak What do you expect them to do|0 I supported trump up until this epidemic The lack of action is genuinely disturbing as there are worse leaders on the world that have done more for this outbreak in addition private contractions between the CDC and third party benefactors is ridiculous Trump just cost himself the election|0 Can confirm this If another local or federal agency is found to have any property that was purchased by us and there is not a ridiculous paper trail showing why they have it justifying the need showing how it was paid for chain of custody and all that people can go straight to jail We cant even give old stuff to local agencies who really need it It has to go through a special auction process Which btw is a huge scam where those who have money buy it all up and then they can do whatever they want with it Like sell it and make more money instead of putting it to good use and save tax dollars|1 You are a moron if you think dabbing is without consequence|0 What about based on net worth|1 Where to get the masks I have been trying to get one in Northern Ireland for a while No luck yet|1 Shoutout to Metal Gear Solid too|1 And who the hell is going to donate blood Thats dumb|0 If you can buy MREs instead No point of hoarding other than water Order from Amazon etc They come with a chemical heater when water added and are dirt cheap 100 dollars for 40 meals|0 Donr forget about tourists My friend lives next to Airbnb apartment and there are parties constantly every week Just different tourists|1 I mean what hes doing is great but there are many more out there also doing the same thingJust because I think health care should be made free for the public doesnt mean I should run for President of the USA does it|1 Surely you should be employing draconian action before the beds fillYes Just before Brinksmanship of high order Theres an unpalatable truth lurking here that despite very best efforts 1 in 5 of the Critical Care bed occupants will die They always would This is the 1 CFR Those in Critical Care beds are the 5 who need the extra care to stand a chance of survivalYou will have those who have responded well to advanced care and can be moved out a little earlier than ideal and will require dedicated specialist care but not of the same intensity And most difficult to swallow will be the application of triage protocols Italy is now doing that too late with the social implications that will bring down the line These will give the Critical Care units a little forgive the pun breathing room By this time even if the infection growth rate remains the same the number increase daily is huge this is the time to come in with the next set of actionsThe more authoritarian measures can then be applied to those who are most likely to spread the infection to the vunerable whilst themselves being unlikely to add to the CFR Those of more robust health without comorbidities but who behaviourally are a risk to the community All about buying time Get the timing right and the final toll can be kept to the minimum Play the big cards too early and the effect will be on a smaller number and thus less effective than later Lockdown frequently being proposed at the moment will just expose a captive population to wave after wave of infection each one with the usual CFR Play them too late and the 1 becomes 5 and possibly worse|1 i could never forgive myself if I flew home and got other people sickYoud either be quarantined or selfquarantinethan in getting on a plane for 30 hours with other people some of whom are surely infectedThis is true so I get that However medical care and infrastructure will be so much better in the US and not to mention and youd know better than me but as a nonChinese citizen will they put you in the back of the line when it comes to careThey have experimented with treatment with antivirals Id imagine youd be more likely to get them in the USI guess I just know Id risk getting sick to be in the US when sickness is all around me in ChinaAnyways good luck with your decision and I hope you stay healthy|1 I would find an applause track online and put the speakers in the windowsI am just too withdrawn and selfish to work for other peoples health but I am very grateful that others arent like me|1 The PNW tends to be healthier on average with low levels of obesity and other diet related health issues|0 Since theres only a small number of tests available the criteria are quite strict per CDC It may still be proof of contact with someone overseas from an afflicted country Dont know if that has changed yet Therefore 98 of us cannot get tested Lovely|0 The last bill the house tried to pass for emergency assistance and temporary healthcare was shot down by a few nut jobs because it didnt contain specific language about changing the laws for abortion funding Like are you fucking kidding meIm sick for sure and cant get tested anywhere Only reason any half measures at quarantine are being taken is because of the state and local governments The feds are literally leaving us to die|0 Offer them 20 bucks to lick the handrail for trump Sell it to SNL Better yet lick the handrail for trump challenge and well donate 5 to his campaign and give them a maga hat to wear for filming Photos to be posted on White House fence|1 I find it fascinating and crazy at the same time When you have all this info flying at your face everyday I suppose it is too hard to process and you just turn off your brain completely to shield you from the horror|0 You say the major problem is dishonest workers and then go on about how its actually the companies fault If corporations and majority stockholders stopped lying to workers about everything and common people actually got paid a living wage then many people wouldnt feel the need to take advantage of every little thing The rich have become much too powerful and something must be done|0 Awesome thanks for also sending a letterIt sounds like you are an optimist but also a realistto look at whats happening in other countries and not be concerned would be insanity The fact is most people here in the US just arent awareand it looks like that is intentional sadly There is a special hell for our leaders who are basically just standing down on this|0 Reindeers are better than people|1 Right I wondered why one cant sanitize the masks in alcohol to make them reusable and clean Better a refurbished sanitized mask than none Maybe its just not possible or wed all run out of sanitizing liquid|1 Can confirm I never get the flu but I was incredibly sick first week of January lasted two weeks and symptoms were on par with corona Have since recovered but noticed a bunch of friends and coworkers having similar illness the last few months From NYC and when I asked my friends who are doctors in Local hospitals they told me that they have not tested anyone in the past few months|1 What meal would you like to eat in the prison|0 Nope Cant get tested easily here Youre told to go home if present at hospital with anything other than severe symptoms|0 Lol White supremacy as you skeptically put it is the greatest source of political violence in the United States People have actually died But I guess some mods being allegedly unfair is worse People want to believe theyre better and different You taking some isolated behaviour as proof of hatred and racism from the black community is just another example of the same attitude you denounce If you can pick and choose what represents the positions of the black community then why shouldnt black people judge us by Hitler or Churchill|0 Thatll fix the problem s|0 Okay what is it then A gazillion|1 Fuck you for putting this earworm in my brain lolEveryone at my job is also going to hate you in about 10 minutes lol|0 Exactly I think people look down on China because some eat wild animals and believe in goofy medicineIts still a country that has the 3rd highest average IQ in the world behind south korea and hong kong and has some of the smartest people running it Theyre all doing the right thing and people actually wear masks in all 3 of these countries|1 yeah the US really needs some big reforms especially regarding foreign affairs the gap between rich and poor and corruption but the US still needs to keep its good points like freedom of speech ETC|1 Carrying out tests is one of the most efficient ways of controlling and stopping the spread This has been established by the WHO amongst other top epidemiologists Stop the spread and you wont need the staff as there wont be demand If you think the NHS is stretched now wait and see what happens in 24 weeks|1 GET FILTHY PRANKED HA PRANKED|1 My aunt had a flight lay over at freaking Hong Kong 9 days ago The plane touched down refueled without passengers exiting the aircraft then continued on toward Siem Reap She took a selfie on the plane and it was EMPTY Maybe 10 passengers including herself You could see it in her face that she was thinking something along the lines of holy shit I really should have cancelled this tripI wonder whats going to happen when she attempts to come back into the US I sure as hell hope she hasnt picked up the virus and brings it back with her|0 Wait they been fighting at markets for one month Please explain why this is Pretty much no evidence of panic buying here in the US and I dont see it being any different in other western countries particularly 30 days ago|0 Well according to this article httpswwwgooglecomampsampscrollinpulse956110isindiatestingenoughforcoronaviruscases perhaps India is on a wrong path as of now One can get tested only if they have travelled to affected countries recently or have contact history with such travellers and have symptoms of the disease thats and condition I hope the government would be more transparent regarding its strategy|1 I smoke only weed like a blunt every other evening i also use charcoal filters anyway weed itself is helpful actually too bad here in Germany we somehow mix it up with tobacco instead off smoking pure guess I have to fix that and my apocalypse stash needs fixing too|1 Ive heard that argument as well Along with Italians have an older population and they all smoke thats why so many are dying I then ask if they know how many ventilators our local hospital has|0 you cant die from wuhan coronavirus if you die from ebola first genius|1 Jesus Frankly I am a little scared of the panicked especially newbie gun owners When you do a lot of plinking at the range you buy in bulk anyway and usually have a reasonable amount of ammo on hand for at least a few of your firearms|0 But its not a travel ban|1 How do they come up with that number|1 I work in primary care in a non clinical role and management arent sending home staff with symptoms I know its because we already dont have enough staff at the best of times but it seems madness to me that even a health care setting will not follow government guidelines|1 I hope American people will actually have a reckoning The misinformation is killing American people in their very American soil regardless of race and genderBut I want to understand their logic How would hiding info actually good for the economy People would still die hospitals would still be overwhelmed regardlesscoronavirus bingohttpsredditcomrmemescommentsfdlwtycoronavirusbingoCurrenthttpsimgurcomW4P2Xr1|0 but no immediate plans to switch to online classworkx200BFucking hell Close the universities Nobodys exams are worth other peoples lives They can do the work online Semester is almost over anyway|0 It seems this was leaked to the WHO pretty much as soon as the Chinese government released their first case Should be a better coordinated global response imo Just something to improve upon Im sure its difficult but why not at least try I think the problem was Chinas government covering up numbers|0 I am not only blood type A but also a straight A student what should I do|1 Doctors who are on the front line at CHUV Switzerland have shared there are currently 4 young people who are at CHUV with corona who were in good health and who are currently in serious condition and intubated because with severe breathing difficulties the reason for this could be that they took antiinflammatory ibuprofen style to bring down the fever and this could have caused these complications This is new information and doctors in Italy are also starting to notice this problem So for everyone if you get sick do not take antiinflammatories but for example Paracetamol|0 Im kind of giving up I keep getting invitations to gatherings like parties wedding showers and stuff like that And I am like Why are people doing this I guess theres not a lot of intelligence out there|1 the fatalities we heard of took 4 weeks to diealmost all cases outside Wuhan are less than two weeks old|0 I mean really wouldnt it basically be anything that we know we need Medical infrastructure food stuff like that Im assuming youre basically investing upon the general health of that industry or business so if you know were not getting rid of say farms anytime soon it would be wise to invest in some sort of agriculture then|1 Apologies I meant delay of the spread|0 This generation has had its own financial collapse and depression yes depression not recession and a list of wars around the world which may as well be summed up as a pseudo world war|0 Criticizing him or The UN is racist Wheres your Critical Thinking|0 He knows words he has the best words|1 Good luck electing only competent people America is really good at that|1 Wtf is this possible Would we know by now Or is 50 of the population gonna be disabled soon|0 So what does two weeks of food look like Sometimes I feel like I overshopped and then I think I might not have enough|1 IF this person is right and it is still a big IF and this virus utilizes ADE it will make vaccine development far more difficult httpswwwredditcomrCovid2019commentsfah93ravaccineisntcominghttpswwwredditcomrCovid2019commentsfah93ravaccineisntcoming|0 lol glad i found this here first thing i checked too was obvious as fuck tbh|1 I love this community This sub has restored hope to me and now I want to return the favor one comment at a time Im afraid to even think about where I would be mentally if I never found this sub Still anxious but not always on the verge of a breakdown|1 Right the clinical significance is more important to us than the statistical significance provided that the clinical significance is statistically significant|1 If hes not physically at the podium by 315pm we are legally allowed to elect a new president|1 You may want to get across that border in two weeks when our hospitals are full|1 In a dictatorship you dont get arrested you get kidnapped|1 Also if your plan is to allow more people to become infected theres no benefit to it|0 Way to show a perfect example of why shit is fuckedPeople are dying and governments are failing to protect peopleBut some naughty words are the REAL enemy here|0 At least the Italian government updates public They are doing best to their knowledge|1 Are you fucking kidding me|1 keep it goin pop 330M 80 infection 348 case fatality rate with little done to stop the spread1 year laterpretty grim 9187200 or 18000 I think we found the answer Time for action|0 A city that thinks its too cool for school|1 The whole problem with the shut it all down mentality is that when you go through the economy sectorbysector you realize just how important most of it actually is Energy Healthcare Food And yes at least some restaurants will have to be kept open because you have people in critical jobs working long hours who wont be able to prepare their own food in addition to people with disabilities etc who are critically reliant on takeout Likewise grocery stores and other markets so people can get access to food and critical supplies such as cleaning supplies Waste disposal Internet access Entertainment streaming services so people dont go crazy sitting at home Software maintenance so critical software doesnt go down Emergency and police services Delivery and warehousing services so all of the services above can get the supplies they need Manufacturing for critical supplies again so all the services above can get what they need A lot of modern organizations have very short supply chains thanks to the justintime fad in corporate management so you cant have manufacturing shut down for too long Finance and banking so that people who are working can get paid for the work theyre doing so that financial assistance can get distributed and so that bills can get paidThe bottom line you cant just shut it all down without turning a big disaster into an epic one It just isnt practical Even if your 1 goal excluding all others is to keep the population alive there is a lot of work that needs to be done to make that happenIf there are sectors of the economy that can be shut down without much of an impact fine do it That includes schools lawyers live entertainment and not much else Dont say telephone sanitizers we need them now more than ever Maybe some parts of the retail sector though again grocery stores and such will still need to stay openThe complicated reality is this you need to keep large parts of the economy up and running but make significant adjustments to how it works in order to minimize risk You cant just tell everyone go into your bunkers and stay there until this is all over That wont work because theres a lot of work that needs to be done in any case and this could go for months Instead you need the London Blitz mentality keep things going to the maximum extent possible while making all the necessary adjustments to lower risk|1 No the first time I was banned was to announce our off Reddit board that pissed them off When I made a comment about the control of the cv boards on Reddit in reply to someone elses comment about banning they shut me down For reference it was a non peer reviewed journal sighting the similarity to airborne Ebola which was researched here in the states back in the 80sI dont need therapy but I do admire your honest care and concern for my well being If you would like you can come over for some tea and crumpets|1 There is this idea that getting tested for Covid 19 is going to help the individualNo one has that idea Its important to test because if multiple people test positive in the same area that gives information on how wide the spread is and gives policymakers an idea of what level of action needs to be taken|1 Good stuff Keep reporting those facts hahahah They they they And your proclamation srsly|1 you are too kind|1 This virus has been blown way out of proportion by people who WANT something to happen because theyre bored with their lives Heres a newsflash for you basement dwellers Nothing is going to happen The virus isnt going to cause an apocalypse the world isnt going to end and you arent special or unique in any way Have a miserable day|0 Maybe you should quit Its not like its hard to find another 10 an hour job is it|0 They are scrambling as well|1 Such comparison metrics are misleading because those kinds of rankings often try and incorporate some kind of grade for whether a country has universal healthcare which the US ostensibly does not though in practice does since no one is ever turned away The US has the best medical technology in the world|1 Then there are those who have remote working jobs who can just carry on and dont get free vacations |0 all the best mate|1 Its not a summary at all Youre acting like its impossible for nature to create a virus that is incredibly contagious and insinuating that its therefore manmade|1 illegals Nope no politics here Sabotaging social security is a normal thing to do|1 he is 1 responsible person for this shit|0 Tourism is the need of very high order it basically exists because of human vanity much less is result of genuine curiosity In times of crisis high order needs must be ignored|0 Well yeah now it is but it wasnt during the however long they went without containing it Probably spread like wildfire in high winds|1 Theyll quarantine you on symptoms of fever cough and then send the sample to the testing hospitals if you dont improve in 3 days Its the new procedure applied in all hospitals since around late Jan|0 Theyve been fed fAkE nEwZ111 so many times that they dont know when to just buckle down and take things seriously|0 IIRC lung cells are capable of healing excellently by some mechanism that halts at age 21I suspect children are capable of healing their lungs in a way adults are not|1 Ironically those who are immunocompromised often are able to avoid it developing into respiratory distress syndrome the syndrome where ones immune system goes into overdrive and starts attacking the body cytokine storm that kills coronavirus patients because their immune systems are too weak to mount a robust response to the virus So lets hope your dad is one of those if in fact he catches it|0 But Ive been told even on this sub that Im part of the problem by preparing If no one rushed to the store we wouldnt have shortage problems Some people are really dense|0 Whats wrong with covering face with mask|0 Wait so this is all real Fuck|0 Wow this articulates it so well this is very relatable I also get this strong resolve to learn as much as I can and try to find ways to prepare for it or cope with it Like I did the same thing when my mental health got really bad It can be helpful to some extent but the problem is when it impedes with daily functioning It definitely can be information overload Sometimes I have to remind myself on holding back on being a theory junkie and be more in the present and be more actionable in healthy ways As someone else said earlier it can certainly be a way to find some control in the situation Its been a tough thing for me personally and I still am struggling with it from time to time Easier said than done but finding a way to be more grounded and centered in ways that work for you can help Just maybe trying a technique and seeing if it helps and maybe trying something else until something sticks potentially|1 These are the type of people who will then complain that they didnt know how serious it was when they get sick If they get sick I hope they have a contingency plan Especially for childcare if the parents or grandparents should get sick That is the one thing I am personally worried about Keeping myself healthy and not put myself at risk for coronavirus Because if I or my husband get sick who is going to take care of my kids My kids are just as happy sitting at home with me watching Disney plus|0 This was my understanding as well|1 If we had a better democracy it wouldnt be a two party system gerrymandering would be illegal and so would voter suppression Just those things alone would cause conservatives to lose massive amounts of votes Turns out the majority of America wants progressive things|0 Sold out at the paint stores but I found some at the auto store They were cheap generic ones made in China that cost more than 3M made in America ones At least theyre still NIOSH approved|1 fuck having balls dont see them working well out there|0 I feel this The first confirmed case close to me was announced friday I live with and care for my 80 year old grandmother with COPD and Ive been so worried about her since this all began the only good thing is that Im a homebody and weve always kept enough stuff in the house so I only have to shop every few weeks if do get exposed though I cant self isolate at the house due to the risk to her but Id have no where else to go|0 I honestly find it hard to concede with all of this in my mind its almost like a very bad dream Like it feels so drastic already I cant imagine this tension building anymore|1 On the AMA they said sore throat and runny nose are symptoms|0 It is a probability thing Normally speaking the maximum hibernation period is 14 days but even a 7 day quarantine can filter out a significant number of patients|1 California is taking over hotels This seems like a quicker path with less resources used As someone in the hotel industry I can tell you that no hotel is operating at anything near capacity right now It could provide hotels with relief too|1 Theyre just doing this because it costs them nothing employees will be able to file for extended leave if it goes any longer and they will pull from their PTO Their bottom line isnt hurt by it at allNow nobody will criticize them if their doors are still open when a full blown pandemic hits the nation Fuck WalmartTaken from another comment by someone else|0 I would literally trade bodies with her if it would keep her healthy|1 There must have been someone sick who was in charge of preparing food Thats the only way I can imagine it getting around like this Or one staff member who had to bounce around to different units and had close contact Does this place have a common area where the more ablebodied could have interactedsocialized|0 Ha I laughed way too hard|1 Trying to convince my parents to go back to Taiwan for the time being They want to stick it out in SoCal|1 Wish Id prepped more envying those people who have 12 years of rice and beans|1 The ones driving around in luxury cars and eating out at fancy restaurants all the time are kids from rich and connected families The rest are from the top 1 academically and are smart as shit|1 it would be completely irresponsible of you to not quarantine yourself especially after traveling on a flight around the world with people whom you have no idea where they came from or who theyve been in contract with|0 My mom is 69 this year diabetic prone to eating cheesecake and then doubling up on her shots Sedentary lifestyle mostly watches tv and sleeps never had a strong immune system and doesnt deal with pain very well at any level You might say she doesnt have a strong constitutionFor her and for my healthy but 2 year old grandbaby Im concerned Its not closed in on us yet where we live but its closer every day|1 But youll get your full pay Bright side|1 Strike the earth|0 You seem to be making two different points that I am having trouble differentiating On one hand you said we do have the resources to perform these tests as they are intended but in this comment you seem to acknowledge that we might not have the capability because we failed to secure such suppliesI believe we are both in agreement there is a shortage and that its the fault of the current administration So going back to my original question Im looking to understand the benefit of the PCR test given there is a shortage of tests as opposed to testing those who are already symptomatic To put it more bluntly Im not talking about the what should have been scenario Im talking about the what we have to work with now at this moment in time scenario|1 America is an evil and morally inept place We have to literally pay to live Sucks Thus why I am child free Why would you bring a life into this sty 1400 for the test Many Americans are uninsured and wont be paying for anything health care related Hopefully it wont hit us bad because our death toll would be huge America doesnt help anybody except the billionaires and assholes who run the country Everyone thinks USA is some awesome place Its really and evil hateful place|0 Nope we have 10 days In 10 days we will be Italy In 30 days there will be 1000000 cases in the United States|1 Yeah Why isnt Nancy pelosi out there making sure that hhs and the cdc are working in tight coordination Why isnt chuck Schumer overseeing the federal response and working to fast track a better test Oh wait Maybe its because they arent the executive branch The buck stops in the middle of nowhere these days apparently Now the executive has all of the power and none of the responsibility|1 And this shows that the chinese communist party is lying about decomishioning their temporarily built hospitals They want to make them selves looj good by spreading propaganda If the airpollution and health care is so bad in communist China then I refuse to believe that everything is grtting better for them They are exactly like the USSR The USSR lied and covered up the Chernobyl disaster If China jailed the coronavirus whistle blowers and tried to xover it up then why will you believe the CCP when they say Oh everything is sunshine and rainbows everything is better |0 Not a big jerk just a crazy person|0 Haha probably not where he works theyre pretty draconian|1 Body positive isnt the best to the peoples health who are obese People shouldnt shame them but you also shouldnt tell people thats its amazing and fine to be obese|1 Just a big smiley with the rays of the sun shining on its face|1 It will pass through the majority of the population within two months There wont be a lot of time to take advantage|1 Thats the insane part I know people who were planning a cruise|0 This will be incoherent panic because Id bet the population havent got all the info they need and got the confidence the government will look after themI do and dont blame them|1 Not to mention that a BUNCH of idiots went to a stupid fucking protest in one of the most populated cities the best part is that our president who might be infected was there interacting with everyone|0 You really cant effectively enforce an online takehome test With current tech its impossible for someone to not cheat|0 Good for you China is the only country so far that has the virus under control Primarily due to the drastic measures they have taken to contain and prevent the spread of the virus|1 Oh I will I know there are other options Im just bitching because having to worry about these things is annoying and to my my mind SHOULD be unnecessary in a rich and modern country|0 noooo I know its already here but this still makes me worried going to work |0 I just found this preprint today A new transmission route for the propagation of the SARSCoV2 coronavirus httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021420022939v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021420022939v1 This makes that the orofecal route should be considered as an important complement of contact with the virus recent information sustains this hypothesis11This was observed at the Amoy Gardens cluster of cases for SARS1213 This observation prompted us to include in our model besides the major respiratory route a secondary propagation route which is not a direct humantohuman propagation but rather some indirect vector or environment element tofrom human A second important consequence of assuming the presence of an indirect route is that the selection pressure on virus mutants will differ considerably between lung tropism and gut tropism|0 No|0 How would the US be able to tell We dont stamp passports Theres no visible difference between someone with an Italian passport who is currently resident in the UK and someone with an Italian passport who has flown to Heathrow and spent the night in a hotel|0 I had to switch it off It was beyond cringe Some random woman saying its not like China or Italy suggesting its all under control in this country not realising that this is exactly how cluster outbreaks happen mass gatherings |0 Ive read a paper on politico that runs a simulation Could be helpful httpswwwpoliticocomnewsmagazine20200307coronavirusepidemicpredictionpolicyadvice121172httpswwwpoliticocomnewsmagazine20200307coronavirusepidemicpredictionpolicyadvice121172 But if the spread rate continues to spike as you mention on your reply medical kits are not sufficient enough determining the accurate total case numbers are we talking about a generation infected but cured where longterms effects of this disease unknown|0 Its all good man We appreciate you reporting on the ground to us folks|1 Does this mean no service next week|0 Even doctors arent able to get tested here in AZ One was turned away after testing negative for strep and the flu Just because he hasnt traveled to DC Washington New York or China|0 cilia are growing back and now you can feel the shit that collected in your lungs while they were gone|1 Most social media platforms are a fucking cancer At least on Reddit you know people are actively seeking specific information by joining a subreddit On say facebook you cant escape the mass amounts of ignorance|0 Good evening this is your Captain speaking the good news is that every passenger gets free unlimited Ativan The bad news is the 14 day counter resets to zeroThank you for choosing to sail with Princess CruisesThe dismayed sighs of 3700 crew and passengers echoes gently across the port of Yokohama|1 Im so glad Parasite won the award I had never heard of it before that I watched it yesterday and it was incredible Definitely deserved the award|1 Very suspect This Virus is going to be an easy scapegoat for the Chinese communist to erase people they dont like|0 Our country has less than 60000 ventilators including the strategic reserve Its going to get nasty|0 Every flu though|0 Being customer service on the Strip in Vegas is gettin pretty shifty|1 Probably lower transmission while youre asymptomatic you need to cough and sneeze nevertheless this is extremely worrisome news|0 Congress is exempt from laws against insider tradingWhich is why no Congressman retires poor but instead increase their wealth 10100 fold|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 For some people Did either have a smoking or vaping habit or a comorbid condition I wish this info was more readily available Seems like this could be done without sacrificing privacy for the patient|1 Theyre about to become like Italy|1 This is amazing|1 Ok here is the situation from my view shit is hitting the fan here in China people are not happy not with how government is handling the containment nor how relief effort is being handled the information blockage and propaganda is whole other can of worm people choose to overlook and has been doing for years and i can understand as long as the government is efficient in handling the situation citizens would choose stability over information freedom But right now government is failing on multiple fronts while still keeping an image of everything is under control so whats next well Chinese people arent stupid we arent being banned from telling what we think we are just hoping government can keep up with their end of the bargain if they cantwell|1 This is literally as bad as China here I wonder how many people are going to give Trump and the us a free pass on this bc USA cant do nothing wrong|0 How are you doing right now do you have a fever how is your family doing are they at least somehow stable with their symptoms Im really sorry to hear how youre being treated the government and health organizations worldwide seems to act like they have everything under control but the reality is other|1 China numbers are bogusWe know I fail to understand why china believes that dumbing down the numbers is a benefit|0 Interesting thank you for your feedback Do you have a model to show the trajectory of what is going within Italy right now It seems to be spreading at a much faster rate than Singapore|1 A close contact of one of the patients in the US with coronavirus has been infected with the illness the first evidence that the new virus has spread persontoperson in this country the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported ThursdayThe new patient lives with a Chicago woman in her 60s who was diagnosed after returning last month from Wuhan China the epicenter of the outbreak thats now sickened upward of 8000 people|0 I take it you dont have parents or grandparentsAnd you also have no friends who have parents or grandparents|1 Why yes i am Howd you think i became over weight|1 I worked from home at the time Online doing ITcoding I am currently doing a career change at the moment and gone back to college and doing working on my feet with alot of people and enjoying the social and more physical work but this thing hits right when I did a career change to a more social career Argh|1 From what Ive heard its the same story over and over111 are using computer scripts If you havent been abroad or been in contact with a known carrier thats it no testing and just told to ring your GPThe computer says noFuck knows how many are actually infectedStay as safe as you can All the best|1 Thats why the slowdown is nationally 2 week minimum Let the illness burnout there I dont know what you people think is going to happen We are no longer containijg and switched strategies to blunting CDC with high certainty is planning for 150000000 American infections|0 if it were here for months wouldnt we have seen a much more shallow growth curve instead of this steep spikeThats the thing about exponential growth it grows slowly at very few cases especially if you contain a few obvious clusters that show up like cruise ships and travelers Its when it hits several hundred to a thousand cases where being able to catch a few groups of infected will have much less impact on continued growth that it becomes noticeably growing way out of control|1 Morons|0 solid hypothesis tbh I wouldnt be surprised if this was the case Are there studies done on it It seems important af|1 No worries It means that the cases have been confirmed to be coronavirus|0 uhhthat is not a cytokine storm lmao|0 Its easy just join the NBA|1 But with a mobilized public health community we can appropriately isolate emerging resistant strains Also with numerous options available full resistance may not evolve until after weve gotten a vaccine or achieved herd immunity against the virusResistance is definitely a concern But its effect doesnt justify writing off the significance of effective drugs|1 On a 110 scale my confidence dropped from 1500 to 9001|1 There are two things you can almost always make money with War and Health|0 Fellow Kentuckian and can confirm that there are several people that think this is all being conflated by the main stream media in order to hurt Trump in an election year It is mind blowing how much of this is being ignored by my fellow citizens|0 We know that s is just for legal purposes smart move|1 Honestly same Were all in this shit together is all I have to say Like every person on earth and I think itll be okay eventually|1 Actually drinking bleach is bogus The best way to own the libs is drink a cup or so of draino|1 Scary Think about all the people who are supposed to be doing self quarantine and are not|0 How accessibleexpensive is it for locals Im guessing its cheaper for US citizens with US Dollar purchasing power but I imagine locals dont have access to the same kind of money right Not too sure how it works over there|0 it says only ambulance cost to take them to the hospital was 2100 In Israel you also get to pay for the ambulance Its roughly 100 The problem of healthcare in America is CORRUPTION and will not be solved by letting the hard working tax payers pay all the bills in fact it will make it much worse Once the government will start paying everyones bills expect the 2100 ambulance ride to become a 6000 ride Corruption will not go away with socialism Socialism is like a fuel for corruption|0 Id recommend to just not go to parties right now Your social life can wait Your heath is just as or even more important|1 The guy that put a painting of putin in an elevator as a prank was arrested and jailed Russia is not a free capitalist society|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Yep thats how that works s|1 Translation Coronavirus is already in the US and hiding in the Flu epidemic Its already in SF LA ATL Chi NY This way people dont panic about increased testingThere is nothing to worry about Cue shills and downvotes|0 Just throwing out ideas but I am pretty sure that is where all this is heading I can tell you energy products and food but beyond that it is a wash But as long as there is a place in the world with it where people can travel from and the possibility of reinfection this thing is a nonending cycle unless something changes and people can get actual immunity then we have a fire break or a barrier the virus cannot jump|1 its a very good practice|1 In general people do develop relatively long lasting immunities to viruses Our immune systems are pretty incredible about that sort of thing|1 CNN the most trusted name in news How many scoops of ice cream did the president eat last night for dessert did they tell us|1 Howd Brother Rat taste like Randall Flagg the Stand|1 This is an entirely different point yes the proportion of younger cases that are severe is higher than the proportion of younger cases that die but I never stated this wasnt true However keep in mind that severe cases are more likely to be identified early in case finding and thus this is likely a higher estimate than reality|0 No and no There is no standing order and you probably could sue|0 I understand your concern about hospitals getting overwhelmed but your numbers indicate everyone in the United states coming down with the virus at the same time If a third of the US population were to get Covid19 166 beds would be required This would be mitigated by the fact that people would be getting sick over several months and this outbreak should not coincide with seasonal flu I believe that the healthcare system would be overwhelmed but to what extent remains uncertain|0 Dude my local grocery stores havent had potatoes in stock when I was there in almost a week Admittedly I could go to more stores more often and probably find some but that would make me a dick So no potatoes for me|0 Fucking hell either tons of cases arent getting tested yet or China has fucked us over big time and it isnt 20 severecritical|0 Yeah wear it|1 My friend works for Granite City and they threatened to fire anyway who found a job somewhere else in the interim|0 Yea I disagree with Inslee on a lot of issues But Im really grateful to have him as my Governor today|1 Extremely generous and kind of you to translate such a long story Thank you|1 I wish cuz then Id have an excuse to tell my boss about why Im under my karma quota this quarter|1 Or you know Manhattan Crazy rationalization in this thread but you do you|0 We have all seen that nicely asking people to stay home is just not enough|1 After reading your comments I literally think you are the idiot|0 I think they are contemplating it but its too early yet to impose those measures in the UK The jury is still out on how well draconian quarantine works If it becomes a spiraling crisis here people will start to act more responsiblyWash your 3yearolds hands the second they come out of class take wet wipes with you|0 In Korea they released an article saying that peoples lung efficiency is reduced by up to 30 even after having recovered from the Wuhan Virus Ill try to find the link for the article in a bit but its in Korean Not sure how reliable the source is or if I even read it correctly but Id be happy if someone more knowledgeable than I could validate once I post the linkEdit httpnaverme5wbLdq13Naver is like Korean Google|1 And neither is this the case for CoViD19 nor has it been before And again the flu is also a temporary thing so those numbers racked up in a comparatively short timeUS up to 4000 death per week up to 8000 per 2 weeks Infection numbers accordingly much much much higher|0 Yes There are allegations that they rushed into war on false intelligence about super weapons and that somoene with a cooler head would have seen through bulshit and weighted the outcomes better|1 If Trump gets COVID19 hell instantly bump William Henry Harrison down a spot in every historians Worst Presidents Ever list|0 httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicsall cases of people without preexisting condition have a 1 out of 111 chance of dyingthose between the ages of 1039 have a 1 in 500 chance of dyingbetween 4049 the chances goes up to 1 in 250between 5059 the chances goes up to 1 in 769between 6069 the changes goes up to 1 in 278between 7079 the chances goes up to 1 in 125between 8089 the chances goes up to 1 in 68so its not just the elderly and those with preexisting conditions there are perfectly healthy young people dying maybe they are all medical professionals but seeing how there are clearly people between the ages of 1019 died its most likely not the case|1 This virus is exposing how shit late stage capitalism has become|0 The Mormons are gonna come through this looking like geniuses|1 Well fuck|0 Do you know why is from Sichuan Thats because you Italian helped us a lot during the earthquake 12 years agoStay strong guysbest wishes from Sichuan China|1 Obama instituted a pandemic response team under the CDC and Trump shut it down We would have been far more prepared and could have also kept it out had he just left it as it is Hmmm maybe its a bad idea to cut spending to programs and administrations that are essential to both our environment EPA cut substantially and our health|0 There has been nearly zero regular communication from CDC WH No daily briefAt the very least US could be engaging in sample testingIt doesnt take much education to conclude that a disease that spontaneously appeared in high numbers in Italy and Iran might also appear in the US But theyre barely even bothering to look|0 I really dont know everything being equal Id say probably about a week But the numbers from the US are likely to be higher even the death count if theyre not testing adequately|0 They do it to not overload the healthcare system If you slow it down more resource are avaible for critical cases You want to flatten the exponential curve to a tamer level Sorry for my bad english|0 Your relying on numbers out of China Are you sure you want to stand on those numbers|1 When almost everywhere else is taking stricter measures and were not it reminds me of a saying my dad was rather fond of Its a bit of a shit saying because there are far too many situations where it doesnt apply but basically if everyone else says one thing and you say another youre probably wrongIn this case the UK is saying that were in the right following the science which unintentionally suggests that the other countries are wrong and not following the science I know that it was also stressed that different countries have different needs and are at different stages but most of them are starting to take similar steps even way ahead of us see Poland for exampleI think youre pretty much right on this The handling is atrocious I get the arguments panic boredom economy children dont get it so badly knock on effects of taking kids out of school etc but there is just so much more we could be doing without closing schoolsgoing full lockdown|0 Thinking about the downward trend Assuming the news about quarantine centers for nonsevere cases that dont give much support and news that true hospitals are full is wide spread I think people have changed their thinking about actively seeking care unless they have a severe case Last week it seemed people were pushing to get into care now we are hearing more about measures to push people into quarantine centers|1 I started going at 10pm on a Friday Shelves are being stocked people are out doing anything but grocery shopping Honestly its kind of relaxing|1 Its bloated and the people there are well paid and lazyIm sure thats the reasoning Trump used when he called for cuts to the CDC Also cut was the Complex Crises Fund a 30 million emergency response pool that was at the secretary of states disposal to deploy disease experts and others in the event of a crisis The fund was created by former Secretary of State Hillary Clintonhttpsfortunecom20200226coronaviruscovid19cdcbudgetcutsustrumpCutting the government in the places that really hurt has exacerbated the corona virus situation in american for sure and 9 day old accounts like yours use that as reasoning for even less government Its a republican con job as old as america|0 Did you find the shittiest quality you could|0 Is that the guy saying its always 21 death rate when it never was 21 bar maybe one dayCannot remember the vid I watched that showed even the slightest deviation in your initial data can make massive difference in the curve|0 Hasnt there been some concern about dollar store meds being fake|0 Damn these cruises|0 If you have a home birth be advised that midwives come in 2 different classifications I forget which is which but one has much more training|0 Lets just hope they treat these packages more carefull than their usual cargo|1 SARS was shown to leave lasting damage and this is a similar virus so thats probably why people are thinking this could be the case here|0 really im pretty sure offensive stuff or whatever gets deleted does it notmaybe theres a differentiation between straight up deleted and just hidden|1 Not a doc but worked in the medical fieldhave medical knowledge best bet is to wash your hands regularly water then soap sing either the ABC song including next time wont you sing with me once or happy birthday TWICE fingertips down the whole time scrub nails on palms lather upwards including wrists then rinse from the wrist downwards use hand sanitizer when you cant wash your hands dont breathe through your mouth if you cant get a mask put some vaseline under your nose helps catch germs if you order food order it to godont hang around the restaurants dont spend too much time in crowded areas like malls markets etc If its a highly infected area andor you dont have confidence in your hand washing wear gloves and discard themwash hands after use A mask would be an added benefit imo but only n95 or higher grades are going to be able to filter out viral droplets your typical surgical mask wont be able to do that Also if you wear a mask make sure you have refill cartidgesa spare as once masks become damp from breathing they arent effectively filtrating Other than that try to eat a healthy diet to support your immune system and good luck|1 Theres a difference between that and what he did Sounds like he concealed it so he could carry on with his life and interact with people as he normally would instead of having his daily life interrupted Its not like he decided to just ride off the illness alone at home he went to a fucking public space|0 This is nice but its still going to spread like wildfire due to Californias thriving homeless problem|1 Thats also pretty shockingThis country now seems to have a safetynet in name only|1 The Ontario govt has a website for the coronavirus It is updated every weekday at 1030 I would be surprised if all the other provinces did not have something similar|1 Yeah Anything with water freaks her out Swimming pool shower taps bath even water spray for her hair Absolute nightmare at any time Especially nowThanks for the advice though Appreciate it|1 I absolutely agree However I think a lot of the criticisms of the response ignore what may or may not have been going on in the background Make no mistake if Trump fucks this up itll cost him the election because well old fuckers vote for him|0 Sorry my mistake you are right|0 Any serious source that states that alkohol 95 and higher doesnt kill the virus|1 Had one from December for flu got lucky|1 Thats amazing Im so proud some companies are taking cue|1 The problem is most people have a general IDGAF about anyone but myself attitude insert rationalization hereIf people just fucking stayed home when they are sick and stopped spreading shit the world would be a better placeI got the flu real bad one year and by taking very simple precautions I didnt get anyone sick I just stayed on my damn couch drank Gatorade and watched TV|0 Improved numbers more fake news from the CCPBad numbers and they are limited by only being able to test 2k per day|0 Sounds like they didnt want to ride out the pandemic in India|1 Dear God this would be horrendous It would mean mitigation would be pointless as infections would just start over due to lack of herd immunity|0 I know just was pointing out a historic event of the same category where a pandemic contributed significantly to the death toll And the world wars did not involve all people on all continents|0 Theres no vaccine Its supportive care treating the symptoms until the patients immune system naturally overcomes and destroys the virus|1 Preeeeeeeeetty sure this is fake as fuck|0 It was an attack on the Chinese government not its people|0 How are you supplies wise in NH Im in MA and my friends in Manchester are saying there still able to find sanitizer at some stores Wondering if this was true or not|1 We got hit first I think almost any state could be WA right now with a little bad luck I think our response has lacked though I mean look that the precautions being taken in Nebraska with patients vs here its night and day I am unsure if workers do not have PPE here or are untrained in how to use it properly At least we have ramped up testing faster than anywhere else but its still way behind The medical workers in Kirkland showing symptoms still have not been tested which is a disgrace|0 I live in Kirkland WA city with the most COVID19 deaths in US To help decide how worried to be I did research 3k deaths avg from Pneumonia or Influenza every week 3k deaths from COVID19 since its been tracked From CDC FluView Report Wk 7 vs WHO COVID19 Situation Report 42 So should I be reacting differently than I do normally to try and stay and keep my family healthyhttpsgiscdcgovgraspfluviewmortalityhtmlhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronaviruse20200302sitrep42covid19pdf|1 Just pay your taxes Stop weaseling out and putting the burden on the citizens your are fleecing with your tax breaks|0 Pulmonary fibrosis means scarring of the lungs Having lung damage does not mean that you will die in five years In some cases fibrosis is the ongoing product of a degenerative disease in other words with a degenerative illness fibrosis gets worse over time Covid19 however is an acute insult and consequently recovery while potentially challenging depending on patient age and overall condition is definitely possible through rehab|0 So china knew there will be 13 because they send the additional three as a punishment for loosing face|0 This season 60 people died of coronavirus and 46000 people died of the flu So far the flu is 767 times more lethal than the coronavirus Wait Dont tell me I have to use my imagination|0 Thats such BS Ive seen countless posts on here from people being refused testing because they didnt meet the criteria|0 Sorry I was trying to make a dumb jokeI agree that a number of people in Trumps inner circle fought the virus at that mar a lago meeting|0 Still considering how little 100 years olds there is out there even those single survivors are impressive|1 Is work life balance for middle class in China better than middle class here in the us|1 1 If yurt builders can produce 40 yurts a day and 40 people a day are confirmed to have the virus how long before the number of yurts matches the number of unconfirmed cases2 A man buys 80 mangos and sneezes on one how many cruisers get sick|0 God is the most forgiving and loving But will her immune system be as forgiving I dont know I pray so|1 One of communisms rules is only let the masses know things if it will help the Party|1 I dont even remember the swine flu|0 nice of them but lets not forget porn addiction is a real thing and that comes from a 12 year veteran who just watched porn last night|1 Or a failure to produce antibodies from that individual which is possible but often rare in other viruses apparently|0 Im saving so much money because of this virus lol no more fast food too scared not going to eat out Just buying everything and making things from scratch |0 God what an idiot Liberals lack common sense|0 thats great but what is that going to do since nothing has really been done up to this point just a lot of terrified people buying clorox and charmin|0 Also things that havent happenedA mortality rate in the low 20s MEV1 was a terrifying disease|0 Right Im not a die hard but despite thinking taxation is theft expecting it to be used for emergencies like this pandemic means I dont lean libertarian Thank you for the astute analysis|1 Im in the US where chronic disease is rampant and NOT just among the old We are not a healthy countryI think the mortality rate of the Spanish flu was around 1 1ish It killed 50100 million people worldwide|0 Im in the US and work in healthcare were hoping for the best and preparing for the worst Already have supplies at home just in case but hope we never have to use themTake care|1 There was seriously a physician that decided a cruisee was a good idea recently Im baffled|1 Its not about willpower Its really hard to make that shift unless companies are the driving force|0 If you get to that point you would be hospitalized Selftreatment is seriously not the best thing to do you need to know what you are doing Worse case scenario you bring it with you to the hospital and you dont have to use their supply|0 Netherlands is only testing the very ill|0 You mean places like CityMD I wondered why they suddenly popped up near me|1 1 minute actually Im in the area so Ill update my comment once I hear something|0 Apparently not all quarantines have ended It was my understanding that life was getting back to normal Everything is not so clear with this pandemic lots of disinformation|0 link is messed up|0 Many people dont realize that even losing a weekend of business for many of these small businesses is basically the difference between profit and loss for several monthsThat isnt a worthy business Back to the drawing board|0 Im in my 20s and thought that the coronavirus wouldnt have been that dangerous on me but now that I see mental illness and that I take antidepressants idk if Im considered fragile in the medical system |0 i thought its KNEE JERK REACTION LOL x200B httpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799httpswwwcbccanewspoliticscovid19trudeaucoronavirustravel15486799|1 Exactly Im confused as to why barely anyone is talking about them too Like its a minor detail being skimmed over when really it is the root of this global disaster|0 Actually considering how far the nearest hospital there could be getting it might be a death sentence in some places|0 We got through WWI and then the Spanish Flu Were in for some seriously dangerous times for older people cancer patients and people with compromised immune systems|0 Nvidia I would be more than happy to run several of my machines 247 with folding at home to help fight CORVID19 Please send at least 4 2080TI for me to populate my two machines with|1 This is fucking scary|0 He is openly admitting to be a deceiving and lying gangster The beatings will continue until moralcompliance improves|0 strangehospitals in Ottawa Ont seem to have better protocols and are taking this seriously as ive seen first hand And we dont have any confirmed cases in the city yet|1 the ohio governors comments likely reflect what he was briefed 100k in ohio at this point isnt unreasonable that is roughly 1 hardly a radical suggestion that was 2 days ago so raise that to 13 or 14 nowx200Biceland has done random testing and come up with 1 from that sampling as wellx200BI see no issue assuming various parts of the US have 12 to 2 infection rate in the general population most are recent enough for the eventually serious cases not to need hospitalization YET|0 Shit How seriously ill is he|0 Im glad after death was specified|0 The options really arent no government psychopathic governmentThere is a sensible middle groundAppreciate american politics is rotten to the core but Im from the UK where its only semirotten|0 the kind of hero humanity desperately needs but dont deserve|1 Not a fan of this line of argument Fit wise youre probably a medium And as far as trainingtesting goes it takes like 3 minutes to watch a briefing video on how to prep fit and wear the maskMasks have been shown to be an effective component of reducing transmission of respiratory diseases and even non NIOSH rated masks can help reduce transmission of influenza|1 Testing wont really help anything Soon most people will have it And the only real way to get through it is rest Not all need hospital care Most dont The big majority just need to actually rest at home and let their immune system work through itWho asked people to throw away their masks though Thats ridiculous Did people obey That would be even more stupid|0 Having pneumonia is not good even if you are not hospitalizedOh I know from experience Ive also had a raging flu once that made me delirious Even had a cold that made talking and singing very troublesome for a month just a few months ago I take any pathogen seriously But yeah if they still call incapacitating symptoms mild then I dont want to know what they classify as severe|0 We didnt get here by mistake Our ancestors prepared for harsh winters warseconomic depression and just hardship in general I think ppl often forget we most of us are living in the best time in human history In good times you should prepare for the bad times|0 I have decided this topic is simply too controversial to productively discuss in public p|0 Wtf is this The disease doesnt discriminate and if a Canadian has it they can give it to Americans Stop with this identity politics crap Your average American is just like your average Some are scared some at reckless etc|0 Just be prepared Being terrified will just heighten your anxiety and cause your own condition to be worseJust stay informed and make sure you have all your preparations in check Stay educated but stay sane Well get through this together|1 That same quantity of masks sold for under 6K before the shortage I hope that sale went to a medical facility|1 I agree that nothing is going to make anyone feel entirely reassured about this situation because there are still a lot of unknowns and unanswered questions about this scenario However I believe it is important to stay grounded and not get sucked into articles and statistics that we have no way of proving yetI understand where you are coming from But lets be reasonable Yes no test is 100 accurate but the tests we have currently can confirm the virus This is a fact Therefore we can test for it and get tangible results albeit not 100 but also not 10 accurate either you knowWe know it can be contained you even say yourself it absolutely can be contained If done properly it can Not everywhere will be able to contain it sure but some places can and are doingCatching it is not easy this I believe is still debatable so Im not going to delve too deeply into this and give false information In my country the UK also where this newspaper is based and getting its information the latest info we have is that community transmission is currently low and at the moment it is hard to catchSymptoms are mild Like you said most cases are mild Of course some are not But the focus here is to be reassured We will not be reassured if we ignore all of the positives and focus on the negatives The statistics right now tell us that most cases currently 85 on worldometer do not need hospitalisationPeople are recovering from it Like you said yes We dont have evidence of any longlasting effects yet and we might not know for some time This is also worth noting that people with different chronic conditions may get aftereffects that others do not for example The main point and this is another fact is that people are recoveringThe purpose of this article I believe is to remind us that not everything we read is confirmed There are things we need to remember The world isnt confirmed to be ending Not everyone will die There are things we need to be reminded of right now that can take the edge off of the anxiety we are feeling and its important to visit these now and then so we dont drive ourselves crazy If this article helps someone a little then thats fantastic I know reading this helped me because it brought me out of a panic and reminded me of some of the things I was glossing over I wanted to share this to help others Im sorry it didnt help you|1 Yes that does transmit the virus but not as effectively as direct contact through the air Best to remove the food from any packaging dispose of it and then thoroughly wash your hands|1 Other countries should start initiatives like httpswwwprojektdealdeaboutdealhttpswwwprojektdealdeaboutdeal to have open access for universities not just in case of corona|1 At this point at least do as well as Vietnam USA is Brazilian level of incompetence and I think they are trying to beat it|0 That was the case with the first patient in Germany the one who was infected by the Chinese visitor He developed flulike symptoms through the weekend then recovered and went to work monday morning He was only tested because the Chinese visitor he had contact with tested positive when arriving home|1 SARS had a bad habit of straight up incapacitating people on day 5 most people can seemingly still walk around on day 14 of COVID19|0 Damnit religions why you do this We have so many records that prayerholy stuff or whatever religious nonsense do not protect you It only damns you to hell and you will bring those impurities and impart them to othersAnd here I walked by my local church on my walks and was rather happy to see they closed and put up a sign with safety steps and what not like wow its nice to see this way to go church doing the right thing and being a community leader Lot of old people in that church too RIP lot of old people in this town RIP RIP|0 Seen lots of those twitter accounts from market players saying they can predict the plot of the virusWhen you look at the numbers they use in their predictions and the real numbers they do not match up at all they take the figures from a certain time frame to suit their agenda to say look at me I know the market follow me to know where to invest nextIf you used their same methodology on the markets you would likely be bankrupt by now fractions of percent make a big difference in the markets|0 They havent Ia friend just took one 2 days ago stop spreading misinformation passengers need to be quarantined for 14 days Chinese however cant flight anywhere because the gov forbidden them to since 2 weeks kid relax and get informed|0 Norway and Denmark are sort of getting there Italy is somewhat there but just too late Other EU countries like France Spain Belgium Czech Republic etc seem to be moving in that direction|1 This is shortsighted They very well could have it|1 Would CPAP machines work to provide positive pressure Isnt that what they do|1 Why dont we take all these precautions with the regular annual flu See we dont And this is also just a flu So it cant be that badI cant even with the logic of these people If nothing else its helping me find out who of my friends are NPCs that couldnt think for themselves to save their lives|1 This is beautiful Seriously made me tear up Im glad to see that Italy and the Italians are taking the health of everyone seriously now and that they realize what those in healthcare are doing to treat people Not all the patients in hospital are sick with the virus Many patients are there for other serious health problems so staff not only has to treat the Ill but also stop the virus from spreading to non Carona patients|0 I am baffled as to how the USA gives you a limited number of sick days Coronavirus aside what happens if you have a long term illness Or an unexpected serious accident which needs a long recovery time Its absolutely bizarre|0 So pretty much I have to get the virus|1 Well workplaces arent public so everything should be fine|1 Well done|1 If youre young chances are pretty good that you will just be a carrier assuming you have no underlying illnesses The White House announced testing will be free apparently If you get it you should definitely self quarantine and isolate yourself Stay safe man|1 So for now shes safe and under self quarantine at the school It seems even more risky for her to leave and take public or private transportation to an airport full of people and then a plane also full of people The main risk is contact with other people remember any of whom may be carriersIgnore those doomsayers here talking about the total collapse of China food riots and kidnapping risks the best option is to bunker down The US State Dept is obliged to tell US citizens to leave that doesnt mean its the best option or that its even practical or feasibleHaving a US passport at a crowded busy airport full of people trying to leave China and continually cancelled flights is not some magical golden ticket to safety Ive been selfquarantined for over 2 weeks other than to briefly go out and get supplies access to food is fine utilities still work etc and the virus spreading more wont affect that to the extent of daily life becoming impossible Its much safer for her to stay put IMHO|1 Gonna go ahead and guess that you blame the CDC for this poor response While youre not totally wrong you also more than likely are unaware of the gutting of their global pandemic response budget the cancellation of researching with 37 of 47 countries due to funding issues and the disbanding of the global pandemic response team All in the name of cutting costs and smaller government under Trump|0 This doesnt scare me This infuriates me The level of incompetence we have been experiencing at the federal level and from these organizations who are supposed to know their shit is ridiculousOnce all of this passes by hopefully sooner than later there needs to be a restructuring of these dumb asses who are supposedly in charge Theyve handled this situation incredibly poorly|0 So literally we cant go anywhere This truly is the beginning of the end|1 ITT people who have no clue what shortness of breath sounds like|1 Holding the CCP accountable has the likely outcome of leading to war|0 I should also clarify that York students did recieve an email but it was Seneca College students who did not recieve any noticeI also tried to email Seneca asking them to please keep us informed and release a statement about the York University case but I so far have not recieved an email back I emailed them Friday evening|1 The advertising departments of news networks are also benefiting Has anyone else noticed the amount of commercial time had increased on all major networks and local new networks How about the amount of add on their websites increasing Cant let a money making opportunity go to waste|1 Didnt they just say they wont rule out closing schools shops etc Im unsure if they mean this will take effect from next week Ideal but Ive lost trust in our government now|1 Dude they have been lying this whole time Jesus Christ they lied about the tests the insurance how severe it was until they couldnt anymore the national stockpile putting gag orders on that doctor in Washington that identified the cluster killing tons of old people in nursing homes Its so fucking stupid South Korea is testing EVERYONE THEY CAN and lowering infection rates a shit ton That price to test people if bullshit as well it doesnt cost near that much to test Our only hope is the heat which may or may not stop the spread Like what happened in other countries cant happen to us|0 Absolutely I also know that they are franchised So your owner is choosing this Franchisees are instructed to close if they feel it necessary Follow your gut cut your losses and stop showing up Massage therapy is a very in demand job so hopefully you will be able to find somewhere else Rally staff together and say you dont feel safe anymore if they refuse after that and you decide not to show up because of a safety reason you will 100 have a lawsuit|0 tbh I dont know why so many people are obsessed with making a vaccine that can easily take up to 2 years If we really want to prevent and stop the coronavirus from spreading we need to focus on developing antibodies that will take a lot less time and can be made in 68 months There have already been researchers who have developed antibodies like in the Netherlands and just need to thoroughly test their product and get it approved for mass production Again they can do that in only a couple months An antibody wont end the disease but it will give you temporary immunity if you get the Coronavirus and save many lives|1 Im thinking fairly soon In todays briefing Pres said theyare looking at limiting domestic travel Its comingIm thinking not later than Friday of next week They will encourage people currently traveling to return home give that a day or so then Bam|1 My class here in Portugal is actually complying with the quarantine and were all encouraging others to do so|1 Thank you for this Brought me to tears I hope and pray for all of us that share this good world Stay safe|1 But this is expected if the quality of care increases If by some miracle chloroquine is proven to work the CFR for COVID will drop a lot|1 One thing I found that helps me not touch my fave when go out in public is reminding myself every 10 seconds not to do it Sort do like a mantra Also it helps if you keep two small item held on your hand during all time Like two antibacterial wipes on both hands when you are shopping Force yourself to not touch your face Good luck everyone|1 Whats the difference to me or you if they say its high risk or moderate outbreak Of course its high risk but its being contained still not classified as an emergency and still hasnt spread to non Wuhan visitors or residents People should not be scared and give in to the anxiety provoking media Whatever judging by the down votes it seems people will continue to listen to these so called reporters instead of the WHO I am yet to check for updates since my comment|0 This makes more sense That or some sort of x group can come on x days system like they do when gasoline is scarce|1 All good advice|1 They arw World Health Organisation not Human Health Organisation Maybe they want that monster to make its round around the world Who knows|1 Holy mental gymnastics How did you get from a reasonable answer to me not caring about people dying from this virus lmao Maybe you should reread your rants before posting Also im not even American so how can I have selfish political interests people In power need to be criticised from xi to trump they must be held accountable for lack of leadership|0 Maybe Italians are more social I think almost half still go to church once a month The majority are Catholic and Im sure many do shared communion I wonder if they have more family stylebuffet restaurants I know I went to one when I was in Rome but I was only there for two days so Im not sure how common they are I believe a lot of places have long work lunches too Just throwing out some possible reasons|1 Its only good news so long as people dont travel in or out of the country to newly infected areas and then go back and spread it|0 One of my kids is in Europe where they live and the young people there dont do anything to keep clean No one washes their hands|1 Me three Interested to know|1 My opinion is that i have the fluDo you mean flu or the Coronavirus|0 There is no I here|0 Death isnt really the big issue If it keeps accelerating everyones life will be altered To what degree we do not yet know|0 You act like this is an impossible unsolvable problem Its not Im sure Japan or the US could deal with this if they wanted to do so|0 Thats exactly what Ive noticed Theres been a marked downturn in shitty memes on Facebook over the last 48 hours|0 This is yet another reason why the US has a clear motive to start all of this How long have politicians hated the homeless and constantly make their lives miserableThis just further confirms my thesis|0 I work at a senior living facility in Washington state I think that oh shit moment might happen within days Weve got a number of sick employees One was tested for flu today and came up negativeMy county puts out a weekly flu report where they show the number of tests they do for flu compared to the numbers that come back positive for flu The most recent report reflects tests done through 222 The number of flu tests being done was starting an upward trend while the number of tests showing positive for flu was trending down|0 Awww I like that And can you feel your papa looking down on you proud of you for taking care of yourself getting out there in the store and doing what you needed to doDont you think that if he were with you and healthy that he would have been out there stocking up with you my mom found an antenna radio generators and lanterns that he had bought years before he died just in case Ive watched hardcore preppers on YT listing these items as things to buy for your realtime prepper stash Your papa was really with it|1 Thank you for this Just over an hour ago in my local subreddit I posted my concerns about a faculty coworker who on Sunday returned from a monthslong trip to Italy and has been back to work in a medical school Monday Tuesday and today Nobody seemed to understand why this was concerning and my post was downvoted and deleted I presume for fearmongeringI greatly appreciate articles like these even if they are just opinions because lately Ive been feeling as though I must be crazy for just being cautious and careful|1 When China went full lockdown I knew for sure this shit was pandemic level shit about to hit the world Lots of people downplayed the seriousness of it but for a country like them to not save face shit went nuclear there and they couldnt stop itx200BI was hoping all the fear I had of it was wrong and I was going to be proved wrong and I still hope it happens |0 its normal flu season in the Northern Hemisphere tooDunno if that had something to do with it or notPlaying devils advocate here Bit shit by the looks of it|0 httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv5rOnTPyHXDgNot true this is David Abel 74 years old diabetes male In one of his videos he said hes needed essentially 0 treatment|1 Central government started taking it seriously this week General population not yet|0 They probably need to come up with a plan to get the 100s of thousands of Canadians in US back to Canada before doing something to make America angry|0 Agreed but Canada is making efforts regardless Perspective is important to maintain at times like these and people need to realize we are no where near the bottom neither is the US or UK for that matter I think the standard is important and more measures must be taken but we must remember actual global placings|1 This is one of the first things governments should implement to lower the anxiety so many of us in the poorer classes have Its one of the biggest driving factors for people who are clearly sick going to work|0 Self entitled princess should be imprisoned|0 Dont listen to the posters here We would love to have insider point of view as to whats going on in your country You are very brave to do this especially as a kid Thank you |1 How many times does it have to be explained that the overall curve of the pandemic has to be controlled Take time to understand the medical and scientific response rather than posting pointless irrational opinions|0 Worth noting that while 15 died 32 had severe preexisting conditions in that study The median age of 49 was neither young or old The study did not specify whether the ones already in poor health did not recover but I suspect so|0 Not if the hospital didnt put him in a negative pressure room and provide the necessary PPE They didnt have the specialized suits just laying around the hospital and werent prepared|0 You cant be racists against Swedes|1 It may be long term medication her parents take daily for high blood pressure like ACE inhibitors or chronic illnesses like asthma or diabetes or perhaps TCM medication Some Chinese people especially older folks believe in TCM aka drinking powdered herbal tea daily for therapeutic reasons|0 Holly crap|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 People who make posts like this are way worse than the anxious people|0 Have a friend who married a Dutch person and had become fluent in the language She has lived there for about fifteen years and is still unable to get citizenship|1 Yeah exactly Its a frightening reality Unfortunately Canada has allowed a lot of Chinese money into the country and theyve heavily invested in media corporations Its disturbing that the government would allow it but hey moneys money rightEverythings finehttpsiimgurcomyJbvHgJgif|0 I am willing to work with my tenant but I am not going to let them live in my house for free I will probably allow them to pay a bit of a reduced rate but I too will most likely see a reduced income this year and the bankstax mancommunity associationand HOA are not planning on letting me not pay my bills|1 This is really cool I saved the URL Thank you|1 I think this is the crux of your analytical mistakesChina has a very fragile government when it comes to highly public issues of competence They must be seen to be competent with covid19 and yes they would rather cost themselves a trillion dollars then risk a revolutionI would not be shocked if the real deaths in China were 100000 10 million is out of proportion|1 Oh fuck|0 Stupid knows no gender|0 Saw lots of IR cameras in China none in Canada They may be using them anyway just not obviousI only have a small cough but I think its the normal one I get from adjusting to the lack of air pollution|0 If you believe data coming out of China over the last week Chinese quarantine efforts have reduced the R0 infectious rate from 2535 to 98 Sustaining an R0 below 1 means the epidemic will die out on its own Weve all seen a lot of harrowing and horrible video from Wuhan But these draconian measures theyve taken may well be working|0 Youre trying to find predictability in chaos Youre also fuming mad because no one seems to have answers ironically thats your answer NO ONE KNOWS what is going on COVID19 is new So new that NO ONE KNOWS what it is doing how it is spreading who has it or where it is So youre reasonably pissed off that you dont have the answers and youre pissed off that the people that SHOULD have the answers to not have answers because the reality of the situation is that no one has answers that would satisfy your chaos frustration China is lying about everything so theres no good data there Apparently everyone on the Princess cruise liner petri dish is basically infected Korea and Iran The US Etc Etc Etc So stop trying to find meatballs in a bowl of chicken noodle soup Youre NOT going to find them BecauseThis virus is new No one knows what to expect from itData is severely flawed And the chaos continues and in some cases perpetuating Make a plan Tell mike you have faith in him and he is the 1 hummus delivery guy you know and look at what is happening and how locals are reactingBecause having a bunch of knowledge but no ability to act on it or prepare yourself is a waste of time and worry|0 Hes definitely looking shittier than usual|0 The world cant replicate a Chinastyle lockdown Its just not going to happen the economic damage would be too bigThe aggressive contact tracing and putting contacts into quarantine can be done Itll require lots of resources and will be expensive the government should be paying these people not to go out but it would be possible|0 Italy has 60 million people total We have like 60 million old people|1 Wish there was an escape from reality|1 They can but it doesnt really send a good message to the public that the gov know what theyre doing if they cant even properly follow their own advice Also a lot of the cabinet and medical advisors are getting on a bit and probably fairly at risk of having a serious illness|0 Thats what happens when our supreme leader is more concerned with the economy The narrow case definition which resulted in only testing people with travel to China for weeks while the virus was already spreading the faulty CDC tests because the government didnt want to use the simple WHO test to putting Pence who contributed to an outbreak of HIV during his governorshipIt could not have been handled worse|0 So we dont truly know how contagious COVID19 really is because there is too much missing information We do think that the rate of transmission is ranging from around 022ish A transmission rate of 2 indicates that 1 person infected person will spread it to 2 other people The rate could be lower or higher especially if there are a lot of cases which have very mild symptoms that dont seek medical treatment thus not be detected and reported to public health But we dont know Also it also depends on the density of people in a given area too Think about it how many people will get the disease if you are on a farm in the middle of no where vs the middle of Times SquareFor the of severity of cases China is finding that 81 have mild symptoms 14 were severe and 5 critical source httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762130 However I would take this information with a grain of salt There are a lot of factors that could have affected this percentages eg preexisting conditions severe and critical patients could have just been the cases which waited for a week or more before seeking treatment For the media I would just trust the info on the CDC and your local state health department websites for the most accurate news Maybe follow their twitters as well|0 Well he didnt go to the CDC in Atlanta today because apparently one person was exposed to COVID19 So he is instead going to some rallyEDIT Nashville and then some rally|1 My provincial leader is so unbelievably stupid Im worried he will fuck this up hard You probably know who Im talking about|0 Thanks I hope thinks work out for you too and you can get universal credit Im just trying to avoid going anywhere at the moment Im supposed to keep my appointments though so its largely an exercise in avoiding people and using hand sanitizer whenever its available|1 Good|1 Seems like a possible reason for this ridiculous policy Clamp down the protests then censor all the stuff against the CCP rule Usual CCP tactics|0 Just because your government cant do this good does not mean China cant|1 Korea has a 087 fatality rate so it shows|0 I found myself wondering the same its always EU this and EU that but now you only hear different responses from the individual countries Isnt a scenario like this exactly when the EU should be working together to put their heads together to fight this common enemy together At the rate measures are being taken I suspect that alot of Europe will have temporary borders by the end of the weekDivide and conquer is the course this virus is taking right now and from the looks of it doing a really good job|0 My Starbucks in Orange County CA continues to pressure employees to work while sick during this global pandemic Edit 2 words|0 Central VA hereJust got back from Food Lion and they have limited toilet paper to two packages per customer but they are still completely out Also things like bleach disinfectant wipes hand sanitizers and the other usual suspects are gone A lot of pantry friendly stuff is beginning to dwindle but for now it seems like they have been able to keep up with demand for a lot of stuffFor some reason they are selling out of frozen pizzas I was behind a guy who was buying like 20 frozen pizzas and the store had mostly run out of stuff like that Maybe because kids are at home Not sureIm a clinical mental health graduate student and my practicum site is a private practice From what I can tell my supervisor and part owner of the practice has decided to stay open to all those who still want to come A lot of what I do is nondirective play therapy so disinfecting toys is a major concern at the moment Curious to see how many people cancelnoshow their appointments if I do end up going in this week They have also removed all toys magazines etc from the waiting roomsSome people seem to take it seriously I live with my inlaws and wife and they are just carrying on as if nothing has changed My parents however live near the Richmond area and they are really making a lot of changes like washing their clothes as soon as they get home from essential trips and things like thatEssentially like many others have described I have seen the entire spectrum of responsesIm curious to see how the case in Charlottesville VA impacts peoples fearEdit Though restaurants remain open there is an incredibly small amount of people in them There is also some push back from schools higher ed that are refusing to close|1 Thank you for sharing this He was transferred last Wednesday to a hospital with experience with COVID19 Freakkky|1 This operates on the principle that you look at the above infographic and unquestioningly assume it is a literal representation of the future Youre not thinking beyond what youre being told to think by the people trying to convince you the plan is a good idea|1 Wrote down all these tips from recommendations from different countries and organizations if anyone interested Do not shake hands or kiss while greeting peopleas that is a way the virus can spread from person to person so easily Not even the Royal Family shakes hands with people anymore or they wear gloves and Donald Trump supposedly has people sanitize his hands every time he touches or shakes hands with somebody even when he tries to portray a different frontbut I might be mistaken here of course but it seems to be accurate as he is a selfproclaimed germofobe Wash your hands based on the recommendations one should wash their hands for a minimum time 20 seconds This should involve scrubbing all the areas of your hands properly and washing it off thoroughly Cough into a tissue which you dispose of or into your elbow Do not cough into your hand as the hand will most likely continue to spread the viruses around Cut your nails short as if you are contaminated with the virus it is extremely hard to properly clean the area under your nails Use gloves when you go out into high traffic areas to protect yourself especially if you have no option of washing your hands when out and about Hand sanitizers with alcohol content over 60 should work well but it seems to be sold out in most places It might sound quite extreme but it would really help in my opinion to prevent the large peak and minimizing overcrowdingovercapacity issues in hospitals Do not touch your eyes mouth ears nose or face I have found that wearing gloves helps this as one stops themself from touching the face with gloves subconsciously to first remove the gloves which gives time to remember that we should stop If you touch your face then wash your hands immediately Also this means that you should not lick your fingers while eating Sleep moreas good sleep is important Your body recovers the best during your deep sleep and keeps your immunity in better state too Eat healthily fruits vegetables garlic depriving your body of important vitamins and minerals would make your immunity system less likely to fight off any type of threat to the system Take natural immunityboosting supplements I have been a long time fan of echinacea a herb boosting your immunity however it was only aiding some and giving me constipation but my best friend recommended me Source Naturals Wellness FormulahttpswwwsourcenaturalscomproductsGP1345 and I have not looked back since I do not know it is only a placebo but this little AwardWinning pill has helped me feel better in many situations and I have not developed an illness since If you are interested I recommend you research the product for yourself but I recommend it to all my friends and family Exercise regularly no not overdo it consistency is key To maintain your overall health it really does affect everything from your lymph to your bones to your heart and arteries and more do some exercises from walking skipping the rope yoga running weight training or anything you enjoy Do not smoke as smoking is never a good idea Expensive and unhealthy Think about all you could do with the money you spend on cigarettes Minimize stress as much as possible as stress affects you in every way even in your sleep and can compromise your immunity as well Avoid people who are unwell but provide assistance to them you can bring items for them and leave it in front of their door so they have all the necessities and do not have to leave their home to compromise themself or others Pay with a card instead of cash or if you work in service propose that card payments are highly encouraged|1 I mean really thats prepping as near as can possibly be reasonably expectedI know only you will read this comment but I kind of want to explain anyways Im not really afraid of grocery store runs but I like being independent of grocery stores in general for immediate and intermediate food needs Rarely Im not able to shop when I want to so I need extra food onhand Its not hard at all to get to a months worth of food without purposely prepping I have found it most pleasant to follow the shop out of your pantry food ethos In that you plan your meals around items you already have in your pantry You use your shopping trips to purchase fresh ingredients and to replace items in your pantry and freezer that youre using this week With that scenario you have enough in your pantry to prepare all the meals you cook frequently and you always have at least two weeks worth of food You may have close to three if you have say 14 meals you cook regularly If you buy stuff in bulk as I do then you quickly extend this out to 4 weeks The disadvantage of this in a situation when you cant go to the store is that you or I at least run out of vegetables and meat eventually as those arent items one typically buys in bulk Based on experience with my setup that happens around week 2 or 3 Theres still several weeks of food left but at that point youre eating little more than spaghetti with marinara and rice with cream of mushroom sauceIf I wanted to more properly prep and have a months worth of balanced meals inhouse I could do so by incorporating more meals into my rotation that use canned meat and veggies and buying them in bulk too|1 Just like you say its clear the epicenter of the Wuhan Virus is in Wuhan it is also clear that the Wuhan Virus is a pandemic and everyones problem Similarly the Chinese articles are obviously not going to convince anyone other than Chinese people that the Wuhan Virus is Koreas fault Its a petty game but one that Im playing nonetheless|1 They said on the medai today that the Canadian women has recovered and no longer showing symptoms Hopefully the cases outside china will give us REAL CFR data|1 Why not say that instead of posting fake numbers|0 like thishttpswwwlocalharvestorg|1 How do you know it wont be free|0 Theyre in panic mode now Restricting information when they dont yet fully understand themselves is gonna become a thing|0 Hi I want to do the same for my country is the code hosted in github Please share if you did make it open source|1 Well we will get to see how this works Montana lets high schools play ball with crowds Ohio does this|1 I got a feeling that only people on reddit are anxious about COVID19 Most of the people we come across in daily life dont give a shit So sad I think an outbreak is inevitable Medics generally have more contacts with the infected I think you should prepare early Good luck|1 Because the teams got muddled There have been more than a few cases of scientists misrepresenting their findings to serve a bias Like Wakefield that sack of shit and politicians that pander to you specifically at least have biases that align with yours Its a sad sort of pragmatism|0 I looked into it Ill look for a source There have been a few younger people dying Its wrong to ignore themThere will be as weve seen in influenza an occasional person whos young and healthy who winds up getting COVID19 seriously ill and dies Fauci said in an interview with Dr Howard Bauchner the editor of JAMA But if you look at the weight of the data the risk group is very very clearhttpswwwlatimescomcaliforniastory20200311covid19riskhealthyyoungpersonLater in the article These are the COVID19 mortality rates by age calculated by the Chinese CDCages 1019 02ages 2029 02ages 3039 02ages 4049 04ages 5059 13ages 6069 36ages 7079 8ages 80 and over 148|0 Mine might be anecdotal as well but I havent been encouraged|0 It actually makes sense to say 70 of germans will feel a direct impact on their lives either because they are sick or someone they know or their work changes etc|0 When neither of the two choices you offer me are correct then you get sarcasm|0 For national emergencies like this yes Any tom dick or harry governor can decide something is a crisis and all it really affects is their state Why should they be able to force a private business to lose money LEGALLY whenever they feel like itOn a federal level however that is a different story If its a national crisis affecting all the country that is something much more important I dont LIKE wanting something like that I dont WANT more governmentbut I do believe that the option needs to be available to the people who control the nation wide infrastructure For that POS cuomo Never|0 Trustworthy I was 10 years old when Nixon got caught up with Watergate I have never given 100 trust in any politician since then Left Right Moderate it doesnt matterAlways question authorityEdit I also question all news sources Theyre all mouthpieces for one side or another|1 Just go to the link then exit to the YouTube app then go to recently watched vidsBut RIP I hope that doctor is in a better place He looked like a nice guyEdit Not to mention he knew he might get sick and even though he had no choice helped|1 Those damn Americans spreading the virus to Canadasmh Im American staying home tho|0 1918 Everything is closed except court2020 We wont investigate murdersCant have a trial if you dont catch the criminals head tap|1 Damn thats disheartening to hear My entire family lives there and Ive been curious what the atmosphere has been like|0 Bet Ill die though|0 As always we made it a point to separate the people from the government in this sub Healthcare professionals are individuals and the government doesnt represent what these good folks think No matter what part of the world healthcare folks are from Im sure if such a thing happened in other countries the healthcare professionals would do the same|1 Do whatever youre able Practice good hygiene wash your hands frequently Dont touch your face Sneezecough into your elbow not your hands When you come home leave bagsshoesjacket by the door and immediately wash your hands Keep your home as clean as you can Stay healthy get plenty of rest exercise eat good food drink lots of water avoid junk foodCan you fill a few containers with tap water for storageAre there Dollar Stores or 99 Cents Only stores where you live You can get super cheap medical supplies toiletries and food there|1 Damn thats tough I really hope owners or players or someone comes through for them too It sucks we have to rely on the generosity of rich people during these times|1 I think Koreas approach is better than the UKs as the UK is basically gambling Korea will have a more managed control of the virus yet it will put a heavier strain on the economy and society Korea is committed to heavy testing and monitoring of the population The UK government would never commit to that It will be tough for Korea and it will let its guard down at some points but in the long war against the virus I expect it to do better than the UK approach which will take a huge physical and emotional toll also just in a much harder initial hit I think that will be more damaging|0 Rest in peace Condolences to family friends of Dr Xu Hui|1 Yes httpswwwwmurcomarticlecovid19novelcoronavirusnewhampshireupdatemarch2202031186818|1 I freaked out about mid January Scared my family We prepped they did it to humor me Now that my freaking out is mostly over they are freaking out and Im finding myself being the strong calm one Its weird because Im never the calm rational one lolAt least three times a day Im reassuring them reiterating how hygiene is crucial and reminding them of the data which is scary but not Ebola scary I have not said I told you so at all I dont even think it I just love them and understand their fear|0 A beautiful geometric series|1 Im honestly shocked to see him push this Its literally the first thing hes done with the interest of the Everyman in mind|1 It is They confirmed that on the cruise ship in the Japanese harbour and in the Hong Kong highrises Small enough to travel dry no water droplets required|0 I obviously dont know but I view it as a combination of ensuring access and weaponizing it As in it will take a long time to produce enough vaccines for everyone if you control access you can ensure your country gets it first Second then you can essentially make any demand of other countries Want the vaccine Iran Well here is the list of our 300 demandsIdle speculation on my part but I suspect this is the reason|1 Private donation by Jack Ma different from formal help by the Chinese government though no less appreciated|1 I dont think they had a Disney World package Disneys cancellation policy is pretty reasonable 100 refund 30 days out 200 fee 30 days to 25 hours out lose your money less than 24 hours To lose 1000 I think they had a nonrefundable rate somewhere in the general vicinity|0 I have many older relatives in lower income suburbs like Domont and Im pretty scared for them if this gets any bigger than it currently is|1 Supreme leaders around the world will keep repeating the mantra everything is under control until the very end while the sheep is being fleeced chopped and turned into variety of curries|1 At least if theyre confirmed infected I agree with this Its almost like knowingly having unprotected sex with someone when you know you have HIVAIDS which is illegal in most of the US I think|0 When this happens i ask which job code this gets applied to and if theres budget for everyone to be on the calls It helps sometimes|1 We need a recovery statistic along with the total cases This would help the turmoil go down so much and help realize that this is not certain death|1 I bought a ton of fresh produce and turned them into lightly sauced side dishes I froze those side dishes into muffin tins then vacuumsealed bags of the prepared veggie sides Now I can throw a puck into the microwave and add sauce to match my dish Ill have zucchini in butter sauce add a dollop of marinara and some grilled chicken on top and it feels like a freshly prepared dinner Ive been thinking this food shortage over for weeks and I decided that having the taste of fresh vegetables daily is important|1 Lmao youre so full of shit dude Its weird how people like you get off on spreading false info just for the attention|1 You are right Lets hope more countries can and will donate respirators Maybe politicians can make a call for private people to donate some of their hoarded masks and respirators|1 I mean at this point I am thinking I should liquidate my 401K because the market may tank and I could use some more prep stuff But it is hard to tell exactly how bad this is going to get|0 Do you think if it were spreading like wildfire there would be such a low number of casesPeople would end up crowding hospitals or be bitching about it online regardless of being tested or not if they even remotely had any symptomsThe lack of hypochondria on social media says a lot Yes people are showing concern But where are the hypochondriacs Why hasnt twitter blown up with people who have flu like symptoms but were turned away by doctors telling them its nothing seriousThe lack of hospitals filling up should make you feel better|1 httpsnypostcom20200222dontbuychinasstorythecoronavirusmayhaveleakedfromalabInteresting NY Post article Does not mention US arrest of Harvard professorresearcher for accepting more than 2 mil from Chinese for work on behalf of bio lab in Wuhan while at the same time doing work for the US DOD|1 Its only bad when they do it not us |0 Agreed We had just moved to a new house literally the week before the panic buying began We basically had to stock our fridge freezer and pantry from scratch because we were starting over in a new house Add into that the fact that we were preparing for a potential 2 week quarantine|0 You should distinguish between cronyist rich people and selfmade competitive rich peopleThey are very different from each other One got rich via connections and unfair advantages the other got rich by offering society something better than all the competitionOn Bill Gates one could still argue natural monopolies but the wealth of people like Warren Buffet improves society twice Once when it is earned improving the offers people take and once again when it is spent for making the world a better placeMeanwhilie authoritarians and their cronies harm the world twice Once when their rulefixing takes away better offers from the people and again when their wasteful spending burns everyones resources and attentionSo while your statement may technically be right it is not useful here to group all billionaires into the same category|1 Hell its about damn time|0 Shit even Black Superman has it|0 Thank you Icy I appreciate the news I just hope that this whole thing blows over and we can make it to the next decade lol This news will definitely help some anxious people like me calm down|1 The entire comment lmao|1 NAAH that fucking dweeb will just be like split 50 50 we have not decided to declare this a global emergency we will just let it get out of hand for a another 24 hours when we reconvene to decide GUESS WHAT its not a global emergency but dont let that make you think we are not serious about this we are just worried we make the wrong decision and cost our corporate overlords any of their precious gold fast forward 47 days the globe is suffering while the high and mighty sip margaritas on their private islands while we die and scramble for foodYAY|0 I think your choice is pay your bills and potentially kill off your friends and family or save your family and potentially become homelessYou cant pay your bills and not infect your family Thats not an option|0 This government will go down in history as one of the most disastrous ever to take charge In times when we need leadership and direction we are being steered deeper into catastrophe|0 I remember the main concern of the media was wont someone think about the poor chinese restaurants and the idiotic claims that racism is far worse than the virus and you should signal your virtue by hanging out in Chinatowns across the country Seems like light years ago|0 Thank u Captain obviousl|1 Im seeing the Dollar Tree brand for 50 a bottle on Amazon currently This is ridiculous|0 To be honest youre gonna have the last laugh when your not ill and all of them are Fuck social stigma and shit n95 or fffp23 masks are meant to be worn to stop you catching or spreading a pathogen as soon as i feel like this virus is getting out of control in the uk my country ill wear the mask no matter what no matter the bad looks i get or the snide comments|0 On NPR they just said if you are sick and suspect you have it dont go in for testing because you will be overwhelming the healthcare system They also said its okay for your spouse to go to work and your kids to school even if you suspect you have it facepalm I have no source because I was listening to the radio but this is the info they are replaying every news hour on my local NPR station|0 So Im curious about that I know some mods are his alt accounts and some are his students most likely but supposedly some mods are volunteers otherwise it would have been harder to get information on his scummy behavior Im also curious if the British authorities have been notified since at least at first glance he appears to be a CCP spy|1 I will bet anyone here 1000 that we do not see 15 million deaths in the US by end of 2020Everyone here is so fucking paranoid and loves fear mongering|0 How is that better|1 Yes Disneyland is closed for ducks sake They dont close for anything|1 Honestly in a mass casualty situation you take care of those most likely to recover in the quickest amount of timeIf our system becomes overwhelmed I suspect the model of care will shift from the sickest who are going to take ages to recover and to those who can get better faster the country can not afford to lose three 30 year old people who could have gotten better in a week so that a 90 year old can have an ICU bed for three weeksNot talking money here we are talking manpower and the greater good|1 This is a story about four people named Everybody Somebody Anybody and Nobody There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it Anybody could have done it but Nobody did it Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybodys job Everybody thought Anybody could do it but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldnt do it It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have|0 Got married 10 years ago after planning and working out way out of some debt holes we planned our first real vacation in forever decided to splurge a bit and make it a honeymoon trip Theeeen Corvid19We dont go to May but its kinda likewell fuck|0 The fact that there are many comments about this virus that are not true and causing people to worry|0 Seemed like puts and calls are equally risky if buying no clue why he specifically mentioned puts At worst you dont exercise them|0 I live some 20 kilometres away from Siena Ive been to Siena on Sunday for the last time before shutting myself in my home and sometimes I havent got there for a longer time but this almost got me crying Now I miss itE naturalmente per questanno niente pi frittelle SavelliOra posso morireEdit and it makes me so proud that Siena a 50000 inhabitants city could have given hope to more than 100k viewers across the world|1 No I got the your health is our top priority message also ordering all inperson meetings canceled unless explicitly approved 12 company working from home on rotation all travels canceled personal travels to be reported cafeteria offering prepackaged food only cleaning crew on continuous wipedown duty lysol everywhere thin clients purchases approved etc|1 I dont know why but specifying the Hard Rock is hilarious to me I live in interior bc and hit Vancouver once or twice a year I have never even known there was a Hard Rock Hahahah|1 Baw God thats Donald Trump music|1 This This is it This is the data the CDC saw overnight and shared with the government and has resulted in these unbelievable measures The model they referred to in the press conference This is what they just figured out Its uncontrollable|1 And how did they come up with the magical number of 86|0 And China are already doing the groundwork for claiming its due to reinfection from outside avoiding taking responsibility|0 But if 20 of the country caught it then the death rate would go way way up because there wouldnt be the resources to treat everyone who gets it badly A not insignificant proportion of those who have recovered required mechanical ventilation and hospital treatment so who knows how many would die if the hospitals are overrrun and people end up just having to struggle to breathe at home on their own as the virus ravages their lungs|0 Todays numbers are for 65 more tests than yesterdayActually same percentage positive as yesterday|1 Our society has changed in the last 20 years There is an I can do what I want screw other people and you cant stop me attitude that has become the norm I see it with kids and parents everyday as a teacher Its a nasty defiance just to push back at any authority Its not everyone but its a growing way of thinking Im not joking Im all for freedom but people are more selfish than ever before This is in high and low income places Its an American way of thinking Everyone wants to speak to the manager if that makes sense My immigrant kids and families from all over the world dont have this attitude And this has nothing to do with race|0 Seems like quite a good solution actually|1 I was diagnosed with viral myocarditis at age 18 23 now I was feeling terribly out of breath for week and then one day I was having chest pain and felt like someone had put ice in my mouth Went to the ER and the doctor was shocked I wasnt more sick than I was Fortunately my heart muscle didnt damage itself forever and I recovered 100 But it was scary as hell|0 Exactly All tests have to be approved by CDC before they can happen Shady af that theyre not reporting these numbers|1 Bernie Sanders will more than likely win the electionHe first needs to get the nomination The DNC and media are moving mountains to prevent Bernie from winning|1 No The post mentioned it was just hours like a day between negative and positive tests Im not saying that it has to be true but it certainly is very possible Do you think that there arent active carriers spreading CoV in the US right now Id bet you anything that there are Wait 3 weeks and see the US numbers drastically higher Just hope that the US can contain it better than China|1 Its a well known antipyretic actually|1 Yeah Im at Plat 3 right now so close|1 Pfft speak for yourself I dont want to die|1 It wasnt just the media though All sorts of experts were sounding the warning bells early And people still arent listening after seeing what happened in China Italy and Iran We can only blame the media so muchSome people just dont want to hear bad things|0 Sure you could 3D print one but whyever for 10 feet of good strong rope and knowledge of how to tie a knot that wont slip is sufficient and more cost effective p|1 14 days aint long enough Incubation period has extreme outliers and nonsymtomatic people that can still spread the virus recommend 56 days of netflix n chill|1 Basically were still at risk from flu but now we have addition risk from 2019nCoV Our total risk went up|0 One dead body in a hospital is nothing|0 Im sure this is a child Stay in school kid|1 They called themself crazy they dont know you they only know themself they can only express who they are|0 I wondered if the ship itself was aiding the spread of the virus Ive always heard crusie ships are very dirty and people get stomach bugs on them like crazy Not an authority on this by any means Just a pondering|0 20 needing hospitalization but it would be nice to see this broken down by age|0 Would it be correct to understand that most of the decontamination methods they tried had OK results The microwave sterilization looks promising since that is commonly available|1 Wonder if conveyor belts of airports are being cleaned and disinfected after usage to ensure minimal viral transfers from one potential luggage to the other|1 You tell me are you going to stop going out |0 The problem is that there arent enoughNot by a very long shot So its useless to discuss this|0 I have a history of bronchitis and currently am receiving antibiotics but am not particularly ill yet anyway My cough is wet insofar as my chest is very congested and Im only coughing in order to try and expectorate as much as possible at home of courseyuck I have zero urge to cough It is rather hard to get it out of my chest though So that doesnt qualify right Sorry if this is a stupid question but Im a bit of a hypochondriac to begin with and then this|0 My 78 year old Mom proudly went to an amusement park with a work group yesterday and was planning on going to a music festival before it was canceledShe gave me a big if its my time speech when I suggested she lay low for a little while|1 He failed his saving throw|0 Short term memory is easy to feign when money is still magically appearing in your pocket|1 I really began to panic when I would lay down at night and noticed my respirations to be shallow I woke up many times throughout the nights to auscultate my lungs and breathing soundsCan you describe this in more detail This is happening to me for 5 days but with no feverextremely light cough Its like my breaths arent really working I dont feel like Im getting air I went to urgent care today and the said my chest xrayheart was normal PsO2 also normal so far Im waiting terrified for a fever spike Last week was light sore throat now gone|0 The first US hospitalized patient with a mild casehttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191 was given acetaminophen a US brand Tylenol ibuprofen Advil and guaifenesin Mucinex all available over the counter in the US When I became concerned about COVID19 almost a month ago I ensured I had enough of these in the medicine cabinet for a 2 week course of palliative selftreatment I also bought a case of an electrolyte drink in case Im mostly bed boundFor preventionerrands I stocked up on handsanitizer nitrile gloves N95 masks bleach paper towels In the case of local lock down each grocery trip Im adding to nonperishable food storage for a few weeks of selfquarantine Im not in a high risk group elderly or predisposing health condition and some my biggest worries revolve around pet care either my own dog or those of my elderly parents So Ive a months dog food tooOther tips applicable to households from Past Time to Tell the Public It Will Probably Go Pandemic and We Should All Prepare Nowhttpsvirologydownundercompasttimetotellthepublicitwillprobablygopandemicandweshouldallpreparenow stockpiling essential supplies like food is easier before more general panic Get a few extra months worth of prescription meds Think through how to take care ofsick family memberswhile trying not to get infected and gather required supplies Consider how to reorganize living space Practice regular hand washing touchingour facesless replacing handshakes with elbowbumps the Ebola handshake harmreduction habits like pushing elevator buttons with a knuckle instead of a fingertip N95 masks are useful if infected and for mass transit trips to hospital and caring for family members survivors will be greatly needed for volunteer work|1 A bunch of factors all coming together at the same time1 The WHO finally dropped the Pword so people who were waiting for that are now talking about it 2 Trump started talking about it So now a lot of his supporters who might have previously been dismissive are talking about it3 The big pro sports leagues are canceling games or delaying seasons over it So now all the sports fans are talking about it4 A major and generally wellliked celebrity has it So now all the celebrity followers are talking about itBasically a sizable fraction of the people who havent been following it since Day One or who had previously dismissed it as oh its just something in China theyll take care of it are now seeing that its here its affecting things and people they care about and it could affect them personally as wellA lot of Americans are sports fans The last time every major sport canceled or delayed games was on 911 before that I think you have to go all the way to the World Wars and maybe not even then|1 Thats cold comfort for me despite being 26 years old I live with my old and compromised grandparents So if I get it the government has my permission to pretty much bury me alive to protect them|1 So using my handy rule of thumb of multiplying by ten based on the Lancet articles doing computer modeling and a dash of my own hunches that would suggest 400000 infected Almost half a million with no stopping in sightThis is truly a human tragedy My heart goes out to the Chinese and really to all affected |0 They will run out of ventilators far quicker than beds Beds have nothing to do with this People will die due to insufficient amount of vents|0 Not sarcastic just financial planning|1 Maybe But also its a centrally planned economy with a compliant population They can shut down entire cities if they want like China has done but more soIn the West the economy relies on consumer and investor confidence Officials openly talk about allowing more deaths as a payoff to keep the economy functioningRemember the austerity measures in Europe after the 2008 financial crash Countries cut public spending including frontline emergency services to protect their credit rating score with investors Hundreds of thousands of extra deaths as a result Likewise look at the lacklustre response to climate change because of the economic benefits of cheap fossil fuels Profits before people demands the machine keeps trundling on Human lives are factored in as part of the cost|1 We are the virus This is just the earths immune system knocking us down|1 Award given on your behalf|1 Yep Its all well and good saying People should do x y and z Its another thing to get them to actually do that Honestly I know our country People will break the quarantine if its only 400 cases or so It needs to be a proper crisis This is more complicated an issue than the OP understands and it requires some social engineering to get a proper response Some of that unfortunately means we need to let it get bad enough to be taken seriously countrywide so when the government says We need to do this now people listen You just need to go on Facebook to see how many people are denying its a problem|0 Correct I believe the UK had some 1000 or so positive responses when calling for retired medical professionals to come out of retirement for this I could be remembering slightly off just looking for the article now edit ok well many countries are now asking for this including Italy and Australia and supposedly some US states as well so I cant find the article but I guess its safe to say that yes your comment is valid and its not limited to surgeons|1 Just the morning commute on any train packed in like sardines|1 You are going to need to boycott a lot more than restaurantsI mean I work at the Post Office delivering mail and I get no paid sick leave So I have the choice to either work sick or make no money|0 I feel like everyone who jokes about the corona virus gets the corona virus I wont I dont want it|1 Cant have pandemic with panic|0 Now the incompetence of the EU will be on full display as being nothing more than a paper tiger and thought exercise If travel couldnt be curtailed because of Schengen Area concerns of free movement they stand no chance Some countries will have to evaluate their continued participation in the Union going forward|0 Why not just say fuck it and start testing without CDC approval|1 So nice to see a country pull together to help its own But dont hold your breath for the United States to do this for its people Our moronic lying president is still going around screaming hoax and spouting misinformation|0 She works in a hotel near the airport and I spend a lot of time holding public meetings about mass transit so working from home is not an option for either of us We need things to shut down to have a chance If you want a couple affordable basics that can come in handy if things go south besides the basics of canned food and water consider these A Sawyer Squeeze Mini or larger The smallest size is usually around 10 and you can get a few years of water through one of those even if its slowly Antibiotics for fish tanks You can get 100 amoxicillin 500mgs for 25 online without a prescription Its not the preferred option for medicine but if things go poorly youll have something onhand for combating secondary infections without having to go seek medical attention A power bank with a jumper cables conversion These can range from 40 to 80 but if everyone spends a month or two in quarantine cars may not start that easily always And while I dont know how to hotwire a car Ill definitely be downloading instructions during the early days of a quarantine so that I can learn them Dont wait too long as your internet may go down Keep your gas tank as close to full as possible at all times Get an oil change and make sure your tires have sufficient air Buy a national geographic map of the closest wilderness area Even if you dont know a lot about reading maps you can learn during a quarantine and then youll be ready if you need to leave ever Less people is better in a pandemic Dont use your time in quarantine just streaming Netflix Learn about survival skills Theres a ton of info on YouTube and online in general You have spent a lot of time tracking the virus Since we know its coming at this point spend the time productively and teach yourself skills Buy a few lighters Fire good Get extra salt in case you need to preserve meat Have a nice dinner with extended loved ones The family or friends you dont see as much as youd like Enjoy their company Give a good hug at the end Thank them for the positive impact theyve had on your life Vices Most people have them Stock up on yours I have a case of vodka buried away because I can drink it when Im bored and it doubles as an antiseptic If you want to go hardcore go with Everclear and get a portable alcohol stove Then it counts as fuel too Alcohol stoves like a Jetboil are fantastic for heating water on the move Hot water is cleaner plus dehydrated meals are so much better when they arent coldsoaked But they are about 80 minimum before fuel Get a couple nalgene bottles You dont want to be running around the apocalypse with fine china trying to get a drink Extra pet food No one ever wants to end up in that situation Youll use it later if not now Its worth it Thats all I can come up with now but thats a good start and will put you ahead of a ton of people I have two months of food and water stored currently and if you can shoot for the same And if youre in an urban environment get a sillcock key for 4 and watch a YouTube video for ninety seconds to learn how to use them Could be a gamechanger Good luck|1 But like they most likely are already infected They gotta go into quarantine when they get back|0 Why is everyone maintaining this magical 14 day period when studies have shown the virus can incubate for 24 days This is madness|0 Yes What a stupid and pointless thing to do Selfish af|0 Estimated lottery jackpot 2 million dollars Oops sorry we were off by 2 zeros we estimate that you are angry|0 Badasses coming through When I read that this morning I almost cried I was hoping China would send doctors to other places once they felt like they could to help others Thank you|1 Nonmedical scientist here Its not a question of lying its a matter of making mistakes misinterpreting bad methodology etc Thats why one study in general is worthless and why you want other studies that can reproduce the result before finally collating into metastudies thats when you get actual conclusive and reliable findings|0 So Im in Tokyo right nowThe bureaucrats are going to allow the passengers to disembark tomorrow 219Shit scared God knows how COVID is going to spread from thenx200BThe cases of COVID in Wakayama is from a guy working as a DMAT nurse on Diamond Princess This nurse took the bullet train and other forms of public transport from Yokohama to Osaka So yah its already happeningEdit sourcehttpsheadlinesyahoocojphla2020021800000095maisocihttpsheadlinesyahoocojphla2020021800000095maisoci|1 In my opinion anybody who lives in any inner city and isnt making their main priority getting the hell out is insane|0 wuhan flu or Wuhan Flu|0 Luckily my mom seemed to listen not sure about my dad My mom has really bad lungs but shes already kinda into prepper culture|0 He has consistently thrown everyone under the bus at any point they deemed a negative view in to him Trumps personality would let the world burn as long as it saved a penny of his|0 Exactly people are overreacting Even if millions die its nothing compared to the 1913 spanish flu Wake me up when the death rate is in the billions Yawwwwwn|0 not to mention walking in and out of the plane everywhere in between they better hope that nothing serious comes of this because I consider it a disaster even if were fine|1 My husband knows its to real and yet hes still going out exposing himself and me as a side effect every day He has to work I get that absolutely But he doesnt need to game Saturday night and today to I have an exceptionally suppressed immune system When it finds me my body probably wont even react at first but when it does the chances are almost 100 that even if I start antibiotics from day one it will become pneumonia I just recovered from pneumonia from the last infection I caught from him I honestly have considered going out to see if I can catch it early on so that if I need a ventilator they wont all be taken If I get it out of the way early then I should have some immunity This last pneumonia was really painful though because pleurisy hit the right lung and then costochondritis I dont want to experience that pain again but its better than death|0 But you first need to acknowledge that your life now exists to serve the emperor unconditionally That you should continue to serve his ends till he can rule over all Americans his wishes will be your command and nothing else will matter|1 History of the borderlands between Scotland and Britain is filled with interesting details along those lines And has a recurring theme of wait a minute this was in Game of Thrones for events that transpired there|1 Didnt see how much it exploded in lombardy I have family near there Good luck OP|1 Hes just making sure that when this is over everyone hates the US even more than beforeGG Putin|0 Just buy the super unpopular items Id bet lime JellO has been there for long enough the virus is dead s|0 I know the WHO gets shit over here but they do some amazing and very difficult work such as heading the polio eradication program The problem with the WHO is that it has very little authority and relies on the goodwill of member nations Also because it is a trans national entity some appointments and decisions are political The CDC has no such constraints|0 Youre probably seeing fresh cohorts of younger people saying this sort of thing over and over again Young people are drawn to extremes and lack empathy relative to older people whove seen some shitI remember arguing that it would be a net social good if we got rid of everyone over 75 in biology class Idiot I also liked Cronenberg movies or really anything horrific or strange Today Im uncomfortable watching an obviously fake action scene in a Hollywood movie if theres violence Forget Tarantino Theyll grow out of it|0 Yeah its really important to understand these fake numbers lol I dont trust a single number or dataset from a single chinese source You can basically ignore all of it Look to South Korean information as it becomes available|0 Nah the stigma was definitely there disease has been used in propaganda for centuriesHence Syphilis being originally referred to as French disease because Italy where the first known outbreak happened were at war with them at the timeSome academics believe Spanish Flu was likely Chinese in origin the true origin is unlikely to ever be 100 known though for obvious reasons|0 People in this sub love to fantasize They must have an extremely mundane day to day for them to hope this is the next big killer virus|1 Everyone going through a rolling period of 10day illness rolling meaning each individual pays the cost as they get the virus vs everyone paying the full cost for as long as the virus is in play well I think you can see which does more damage Even if 5 of infected people die|0 I would stay away from newspapers for a while and even things like BBC news have had a hand to play in whipping up fear its not by design though For example one of the reasons panic buying spreads so quickly is because people see the news reporting shortages in shops because of panic buyers then people dont want to run out of food and so in turn they also panic buy The media didnt really do anything wrong but their mechanisms for reporting things dont always lead to good actions being taken They need readersviewers to be able to continue existing so they use attention grabbing headlines and articles to draw people in even if they might not be completely accurate The claim is front page news and the redaction will be on page 36 three months laterThe NHS has had a winter crisis every year since its founding yet its still existed 70 for years Thats not to say it isnt worse under this government than the last just that every year theres been an NHS crisis no matter what|0 Its possible that virus been under evolutionary pressure to become asymptomatic|0 So I have trouble seeing why price gouging is not allowed and this seems to be very similar They are taking advantage of the rapid supplydemand change of TP to promote their business This is price gouging as well The only thing I see wrong with this is the social aspect Social distancing should be required by law|0 Im so glad I know longer work at ATL The escalators that take you to and from The Plane Train are so tall that you feel like you might just tip over Therefore almost everyone holds on to them|1 oh so i shouldnt just shit on the living room floor Yknow some people dont even have plumbing|1 What happens if these people get reinfected later with the virus Is their mortality rate then significantly higher due to lowmoderate immune response and antibody dependent enhancement as had been seen in mice with SARS|1 Thats a bigly shit|0 In that case you could take a taxi Im just saying this because if it turns out youre positive you might have infected multiple people on the rideIve been tested myself last friday because I visited a GP with an confirmed case at the same time as I was there sure my luck is stellar as always I live in Germany Bavaria and actually got tested at my appartment I dont know but maybe something similar is possible where you live you should do some research|1 Using this situation to spam your website Nice|1 The market was going to crash anyways covid19 or not It was supposed to happen in 2019 but it didnt Just watch the charts of ftse or Dow in the last 4 years you will see a crash was imminent|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 China numbah zero China no finish race|0 A fit tested wearer AND other protective measures like a face shield gloves AND donning and doffing training provide protection ALL of these together combined can provide a relatively high level of protection With Ebola for example a trained person watched you from a diatance while you doffed and yelled at you for any unconscious infraction of procedure while doffing Everybody got yelled at We are talking viruses here that can only be seen with electron microscopes and only small numbers of them must get through to infect ALL protection is relative You want to wear a mask and there are plenty go for it if it makes you feel better If you feel there is some risk you could be incubating PLEASE wear a mask But those who provide trained care to you and many others are key and to be lauded Dont seek a false sense of security at cost to others|1 Eerie images that epitomizes when diverting all nations resources into a superficial appearance instead of focusing on functional substantive system processSure they build the most beautiful quarantine center in 9 days but the hospitals in the epic center of viral outbreak cant even get enough supplies after a month in the 1 manufacturer nation of the world|1 honest question how are they supposed to get food|1 That was very sweet |1 Whats sad is alot of people will be butthurt by this|0 Any abuse targeted at moderators or users of this sub is immediately reported to the reddit admins|0 There is some level of dibs but we operate in a free market|1 Please break mainland China down by province again|1 no he seems most likely infected|0 Me and my then gf now wife got that shit too I shit myself during two coughing fits Really strengthened our relationship tho|0 My understanding is some people have dramatically higher sensitivity to the toxic effects due to their genetics and I dont want to post this here have someone do it without supervision or go off label and have serious eye damage as a resultIll edit the post to clarify that though|0 Dont worry its under control|1 How does the room humidity helpThis humidifier I bought recently as friends of mine started using it youre saying its good to have this running at home|1 Washington DOH itself just shared a post half an hour ago reiterating that theyre still following CDC guidelines and only testing those with travel historycontacts of infectedhospitalized with severe illness So until those CDC guidelines officially change|0 Some of those looks from the employees would be out of anger toward their managers for forbidding the use of masks and gloves They are in an ongoing battle between their fear of losing their job and their fear of bringing the virus home to their family They dont have any good options|0 My friend went to Sicily a month before she died of liver cancer You can actually be really unwell and still seem OK In elderly people they may have diabetes advanced kidney disease serious heart disease COPD athsma Parkinsons MS cancer a whole host of things that wont kill them immediately but will make getting a respiratory virus incredibly dangerous|0 The thing is we need to be prepared from more outbreaks that could be even larger after it begins to die down and well have to keep fighting it until we get that vaccine and even then there might be outbreaks in countries that cant get the vaccine|0 They should do if youre around sick people all day|0 There are a lot that can and arent I already work from home part time and have been denied the option to work from home full time because rules|0 These people are responsible for educating other people Yes we should call an end to public school entirelyOnline learning is a direct threat to the public education institution This is not an equity issue its a self preservation issue|1 Mix rubbing alcohol and aloe vera gel at a ratio of 2 to 1 Youve made hand sanitizer Put it in a bottle so it doesnt evaporate|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 ER doc here Literally taking care of yourself|1 thats how much people hate Hillary|0 There are flights from Stansted Bristol and East Midlands to Wroclaw on Wednesday The unconfirmed rumour is that it was Stansted|0 The bonds dont depend upon the word pandemic but death numbers for which brings into question how a lack of testing manipulates those numbersTriggers for the two classes of bonds The two tranches of pandemic bonds represent different risks of contagion The World Bank offered 225 million worth of Class A debt which pay out 69 annually The bonds default if pandemicrelated deaths reach 2500 in a single nation with an additional 20 or more deaths confirmed in an overseas country according to the banks prospectushttpspubdocsworldbankorgen882831509568634367PEFFinalProspectusPEFpdf The Class B bonds have a lower bar for the debt to trigger and accordingly boast a higher interest rate since holders are assuming more risk The bonds pay 115 annually but reach default after 250 deaths The bonds payout rate scales with the number of additional countries that experience than 20 confirmed deaths The World Bank issued 95 million worth of the Class B assets The coronavirus outbreak has so far killed more than 1370 people and infected more than 60000 surpassing SARS in lethality earlier this month Still Singapore Thailand Japan and Korea are the only nations currently hosting more than 20 infected individualsHavent both of those metrics already been surpassed however|0 Im in SC Last sunday night I went to bed happy only note I thought allergies were coming on as I had an afternoon of a dry croupy tickling cough At about 330 am I woke up with a temp over 103 I coughed myself into passing out GI symptoms followed and for 2 days I could not lift my head I wasnt very lucid for the next 48 hrs but treated for flu despite having had a shot As the headache lessened thank god I couldnt move my breathing got worse I called Drs office and told them I felt like I had pnuemonia but i had no congestion I could cough up I have had baceterial pnuemonia in the past and know the feeling well enough I am a healthy 46 yo F I last ran 85 miles last sunday morning An underlying inflammatory and mild autoimmune condition I was told I had all symptoms of covid19coronavirus and do not come in do not leave the house unless i need immediate breathing assistance in which case call the ER and go there I treated with nebulizeralbuteroli believe its saved my life otc decongestants and rest I couldnt get out of bed to expose anyone if I wantedI dont Breathing has been up and down and I do believe the clinical dx was correct based on experience and symptomology At the time of that first call Drs office told me it was in the community but no tests were available anyway and Id had no intl travel though I was in Charlotte and Asheville the week prior obviously thats just regional travel and they dont need anymore data awesome Friday night I called local hospital if I could get myself there Id go My lips were blue tinged and the fatigue is crippling I ended up going once again with albuterol nebulizer and comfort measures repeatedly over the weekend Its been one week at this writing I have been literally stuck to my bed Im am trying to stay upright and now have finally something Im coughing up thus why Im awake at 435 am I see this as improvement based on past pnuemonia experience I only hope Im right there is no rebound as with flu happening and it has been one week 1 hr I had temps 103105 23 days 101103 3 days I seem to be down btwn highnormal and up tounder 102 the weekendI have never felt so abandoned by the medical system and that is saying a lot I will not go out due to besides weakness and lack of energy not only do i believe that clinical dx and not want spread no one has been clear on reinfection possibilities and means and I feel a long way from that healthy runner who went to bed a little dry last sunday night This is my experience Stay in Luckily Ive had no appetite so havent dealt with a store yet nor need to just yet but it is a concern Having a history of some other illnesses even at the worst i was aware of the need for hydration and that and like I said albuterol are what Im crediting my life with right now This is the first thing Ive said publicly I saw your sc tag and wish you well Please stay in and stay hydrated Im personally quite angry at govt and med playing fast and loose with our lives as angry as I can summon the energy to be but at least local level was brutally honest As Bob Weir Grateful deadsingsThe future is hereWe are itWe are on our ownOn our own Feel better PM me any questions or if theres anything you want to know about my experience so far|0 Hugs Its tough for us all and tougher for you I see so much apathy where I work However be prepared for the worse to come given UKs stance Hope you have prepped with essential items I hope the lockdown will come Theres another thread about some IT chap installing cams for NHS working solidly for the past 2 days here on Reddit in preparation for a lockdown|1 As opposed to what A oligarchal dictatorship That is basically synonymous with modern day communismJust because you can buy nikes and play flappy Bird doesnt change facts like only state run media and no freedom of speech or press|1 no no no nono|0 Old saying liars figure and figures lie Now as I see it thee is a whole lot of figuring and lying going on|0 Wont the infant have immunity from the mother like they do other diseases eg If mom gets measles baby has that immunity for a bit longer if she breast feeds|1 So when we had bird flu and swine flu outbreaks that crossed to humans that was a signal that we shouldnt eat chicken or pork That doesnt seem to have stopped anybody so far|0 Influenza killed about 80000 people in the 20172018 season according to figures released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 58 of those hospitalized were 65 or older They get ravaged every year by Flu and other viruses So yes they likely willEdit 65 yrs old not 65 old though there may be some symmetry for many there|0 That is still no justification for a lockdown given that the vast majority of people will clear the infection and not even notice and the vast majority of the remainder will recover with no meaningful treatment|1 LA has a huge homeless population This could get bad very quickly|0 Good for you You should encourage yourboss to wear one as well|1 Me too Incredible film with fantastic acting indeed|1 Thats absurd Theres been so many cases of H2H transmissions and those people infected had never stepped a foot in Wuhan Sadly this is gonna bite them in their ass|0 I love in the Southeastern US I can confirm that our local government is doing very little to stop the spread by cancelling large events One local town 45 minutes away said theyd actually cancel the St Patricks Day parade and people are losing their minds angry over it Most of its the typical its just the flu complaints|0 I agree with all the comments However you and I can both see the facts detailed above and know that our government should have acted sooner|1 Bill Murray lol|1 Wtf I graduated from there back in 2008 Did not think theyd do this|0 What an idiot|0 One of those nose swabs A little uncomfortable but harder for children|0 If youre prepping for complete financial collapse ammo and booze seems like a better bet|1 Most people on this website were not around for HIV or as it was known then GRID GRID had like an 80 fatality rate for years Im NOT saying dont be careful and prepare Do not give away everyone rights because a vocal minority is absorbed by hysteria Again the only reason I worried about this virus and the reason I still follow it is seeing idiocy like this I like Trump kill me now OMG but I will NOT allow some ninnies to give away my rights to him Pence Pelosi Schiff Schumer et cetera IMO Trumps an outsider to this power probably doesnt even want it But the rest of them have had their taste and want ALL of it Look at what Cuomos done in NY since Jan 1 corona overdose was his literal wet dream|0 If you have reason to believe your friend might be sick or have been exposed to someone who was then staying in your room is exactly the right thing to do Thats what they do when they get a confirmed casethe person calls all their contacts and those contacts stay home until any possible incubation period has passedIf your friend turns out not to have caught anything in the plane or at the airport cool If he comes down with a cough youll already have been limiting your contacts Youre being smart Just keep it part of your routine and youll be fine|1 Swift action fuckOk um widespread healthcare double fuckNope Were humped|1 You know what sucks several countries even near by have plenty and have offered to send them were too incompetent to accept|0 Huh So nurses are a low priority on the totem pole I dont know whats worse the fact that they told her they wouldnt test or the fact that her case wasnt severe enough to be tested As a nurse this is a HUGE slap in the face Kudos to that nurse for standing up for herself She speaks for everyone who wants to protect ourselves and our patients|1 I dont have much in the way of advice for dealing with the physical aspects of this However Ive found Marcus Aurelius Meditations helpful whenever Im dealing with existential dread Lots of different translations available in the public domain if youre not a fan of the ones Ive linked toIf you do give the book a shot skip the introductions and just flip to a random sectionno need to go through in orderit wasnt written or meant to be read like a normal bookx200BThis is my favorite translationhttpseinfeldcolibrarymeditationspdfhttpseinfeldcolibrarymeditationspdfx200BDont like this version as much but its nicely formatted for ebook readershttpsstandardebooksorgebooksmarcusaureliusmeditationsgeorgelonghttpsstandardebooksorgebooksmarcusaureliusmeditationsgeorgelong|1 I want to hurry up and die and be cremated so that they dont reanimate my body and force me to work for ever as a slave|0 I smoked 5 cigarettes a day for a year and quit before it could have any serious long term effects However I changed my exercise habits I went from being active to lazy Mostly due to type of job a had which limited my movement She thought it was cigarettes that had effect on me when really it was just a drastic change in daily activity that made me all cranky and illShe was just being a smartass but it did not stop me from smoking at the time The whole thing was hypocritical and ignorant of her I run into her in stores occasionally buying the trashiest food and a pack of Marlboro|0 Whats GG|1 yeah|1 Did you try maybe rescheduling Wife and I booked a trip to Portugal and the Azores 2 weeks from now and we asked if we could reschedule and they didnt charge us Idk what your schedule is like but its worth a shot If not then dispute the charge with your credit card company|1 Yeah theres no reason why notI have a couple close friends and family members who absolutely could do their jobs from home Who have the ability to work from home if they get sick But theyre not authorizing working from home until you show symptoms because Fuck public health I guess|0 Martial law is not very populaire in France haha|1 No data just things that have been published in the media Could be BS but it doesnt surprise me considering they had to build 16 new hospitals in Wuhan httpsnewsskycomstorycoronavirusnhsdoctorwarnswearealreadyatbreakingpoint11958542httpstheguardiancomworld2020mar16wearereadyinsidetheparishospitalsbracingforcoronaviruscovid19france|0 we all have 5001000 people we know some 2000 That means well all have 1020 dead friendssiblingsneighbours in one year and this number is only true when the healthcare system does not reach capacity Not so funny isnt it|0 I play it safe and reduce contact to be sure I am pass the incubationsymptom course period through effective isolation strategies After I am pass that phase I plan on acting more naturally among a select few high risk self isolating people|1 Im still seeing this horde of people online claiming its no big deal basically becausethey said so Even with all the global evidence deaths and possible trillions of dollars being lost over this they think it isnt a big deal These people are in for a really fucking rude awakening the next 3 months|0 i just posted earlier about how my mother was in hospital in december with pneunomia flu test came back negative I keep hearing about more and more such incidents and now here are some more does anyone else think its possible you already had corona and that its been spreading longer than we realized what you are describing even sounds exactly like most corona cases have been described you start with flu like symptoms test negative for flu appear to start getting better and then sudden onset of pnuemonia|0 Do Japanese taxi drivers clean the interior of their own taxi at the end of a shift|1 I hate to say it but Survival of the fittestMaybe after this we can go back to not having warning signs on everything|1 Im asking not declaring but I realize it probably sounds like Im declaring up there|1 Okay shill|1 I agree|1 Well Im A but at least Im young and healthy|1 It is absurd to even think everyone could possibly be affected at once|0 Im shocked and appalled by the behaviour of some of the People in my country It is such a shame that we being shown in this light Lots of people are doing the right thing but people like this could just spoil it all for those of us who are trying I would move to another country but I cannot see that happening now|0 Im in Idaho just one state over from Washington and Im seeing effects in grocery stores and places where masks and medical supplies are sold Even Costco was picked clean yesterday|1 People who come to work sick when they dont have to are generally narcissists that think they are more relevant than all of their peers combined This has always been a pet peeve of mine|0 My assistant said he wants to be a teacher to help people His helping is actually enabling kids to continueto be dependent on him so I had to give him a wake up call I told him teachers go into teaching to educate and teach a by product is helping He needs to learn how to be a teacher not a helper|1 Works in plauge wont work for real There is a flaw in the logic in plauge When you have infected the whole world then you mutate so you get lethality only those who are infected by the mutated version would be subject to the increased lethality In plauge this effect applies imideatley to everybody In the real world that would actually make it harder to spread since the mutated version would need to infect everybody once again|0 The scene in the shabby upstairs room of what is little better than a squalid hovel is utterly heartbreaking Nineteen newborn infants crammed four and jive to each rusty cot lie sleeping on filthy mattresses their tiny heads peeping out over torn blankets This is the place they call the Dying Room Mr Lin Jijie the director of the orphanage says the orphanage has its own doctor but no one ever knew where to find him So the babies die of problems which could easily be remedied Ten percent a month die at least Thats quite normal he said matteroffactlyQuite normalAn article in September 1995 by German journalist Jurgen Kremb in the newsmagazineDer Spiegeldescribed similar conditions in a Harbin orphanage in the far Northeast of China Kremb called this institution a Kindergulag childrens gulag where the children are like discarded abandoned human garbage their hands ravenblack with dirt their faces smeared with leftover food snot and excrement their small bodies strangely twisted In the dying room handicapped small bodies some just skin and bones doze in their own urine some naked some dressed in a dirty little jacket Under a bed in the next room a small bundle of rags Dead says the graceful Guo Ying the 14year old girl in charge Last night the infant whose name no one knows died The older children have wrapped the body in a couple of dirty cloths which serve as a shroud They then shoved the dead baby under the bed where it stays until the staff get around to removing the corpse On weekends that can take two or three daysTwo to three days to remove the body that the other children had to wrap in rags|0 Are they making sure people dont jump off|1 China as a whole would not exist in its current incarnation were it not for the CCP like it would literally be different Therefore the CCP made China what it is today for better or worse Since you say everything the CCP does is bad then you are saying the China it created is badOnly the sith deal in absolutes|0 Hillsboro Oregon Confirmed middle school student with COVID19 School is told to stay in session by the State This on the same day we hear confirmation of what weve all known that it take five days to even show symptoms Oh Im sure no one else will come down with the virus at that school because the government told them to stay open They mist know best|1 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 A far cry from the 15 the poster here claimed|0 What a self important jabroni|1 We did not have that impression Mussolini never won the elections It was at 30 went the king gave him the government position and told him to do whatever he wanted Then he declared all other parties illegals under the fear of socialismThe colonial dream was mostly an excuse to distract from internal conflict with protests and black shirts going around beating and killing peopleSaid so the man probably intended that during the war there was not much food supply lines were short and people lived by the day my grandparents never saw chocolate before the Americans came here At least they always say soHe is not comparing coronavirus to the war but today abundance with the scarcity during the wartime|0 To be fair one of those is way more essential than the other|1 Most pension funds are heavily invested in shares and many investment funds are too its not just of interest to millionairesIf your pension fund collapses and youre 20 its not such a big deal If it collapses and youre already in your 60s then its a huge deal|0 This study is quite interesting as it has the most expressive sample size so far with 2100 children so this gave them the possibility of stratifying them according to ages gender etc The findings reiterate the ones from similar analysis where children seem to have less severe disease than adults However it provides some puzzling insights as infants 1 year olds seem to have more severe cases|0 Yeah that sounds even much worse than measlesBut I think badly vented crowded rooms which stay there for a prolonged time and of which some are infected and cough are actually high risk places But thats something totally different than your example|0 Do they think were stupid Sadly yes yes they do|0 Look up the 5 year survival rate for the US We come in on second on nearly every single type of cancer and lead the world in medical innovations patents and research The edgy Reddit circle jerk needs to end Yeah yeah merica bad everyone but Reddit is incompetent Trump the CDC Pence all of them are stupid except for you all and the US healthcare system is akin to a 3rd world country Weve all heard it before|0 WhyFor the same reason you dont have any masks stockpiled you irresponsible babiesGovernment isnt your Daddy Take personal responsibility|0 So far they told us that the virus only lasts on surfaces for several hours but neglected to mention that it can last on a surface for up to 9 daysNow this obvious clanger they havent kept up with either Im very cautious about this group of doctors myselfx200BTechnically the virus widely known as the coronavirus is just the latest of many similarly shaped viruses Coronaviruses are named for the spikeshttpswwwnytimescomarticlewhatiscoronavirushtml that protrude from their surfaces which resemble a crown or the suns corona A study of other coronaviruses found they remained on metal glass and plastic for two hours to nine dayshttpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463fulltextNew York Timeshttpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirushowitspreadshtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirushowitspreadshtmlx200BEdit with the WebMD comment webmdhttpswwwredditcomuserwebmd15 points 1 hour agohttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh4t3u In recent congressional testimony CDC director Robert Redfield told lawmakers that the virus that causes COVID19 could survive on metal surfaces like copper and steel for about two hours For other surfaces like cardboard and plastic Redfield said it could be longer and researchers were looking at that The WHO has recently warned people not to use banknotes aka paper money for fear that might be a route of transmission Brenda GoodmanSo they are not technically wrong but 2 hours to some unknown number of days isnt clarity|0 It seemed like a legit question to me Sounds like he was being asked about his DR plans for if the team were to catch the virus or what his plan was to try to keep the team healthy|1 Back when everything wasnt a giant countrywide emergency|1 Ohh cool now youre swearing at me anyway these arent just my questions congresspeople are asking these same questions just watch the link i postedYour typical congresspeople is probably less intelligent than the average poster on this sub|1 Iowa here Virus is 15 miles from here and Im torn about whether to keep sending them|0 Youre approved now Post away|1 As a B person I feel discriminated against Left out of the party again|1 This is an argument you wont win my friend Civil liberties be damned if you are risking my life You might as well be breaking and entering in a house in TX Bang SelfDefense|0 I feel like Im watching a train derail in slowmo except Im on the train|1 The sensible ones are already going to take proper precautions So now the question is reaching out to the others and theyre more likely to see something from celebrities they follow than advice from medical professionals|1 They are making plans and are waiting to see what will happenJust like Italy Blood on your hands admin|1 Gobert is getting what he deserved but the other people are getting what he gave them Assholes like Gobert are one result of a lying president who calls it no big deal and influence idiots Goberts job is to play with a ball Gobert should recognize that and leave the thinking to those with a brain|0 Fair decision There will be many music events to come But minimizing the spread of this virus until a vaccine is available is the priority|1 Literally opened this subreddit to find a global tracker first post I see is this Saved thankyou|1 Yeah Lagom sneaky Swedes|1 I agree with this sentiment but also PM Trudeau isnt just a random celebrity hes the leader of a G7 nation|1 Im petting sitting for friend that is out of town When I went to her house today I wore a filtered painters mast nitrile gloves rubber boots which I take off outside my door and I carried a Clorox wipe with me to open the door and wipe the door handles I truly am taking no chances lol|1 No expert but you know the deal better Internet expert level 100|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 I have MS and am on immunosuppressants that mostly target B cells My neurologist has more or less confirmed that we dont know enough to say for sure whether folks like me are at greater risk Fun times|1 Yeah I worry about my dad not taking it seriously either Hes currently undergoing chemo and hes almost of the opinion that if he can survive cancer he can survive coronavirus too Um dad you might have to try to survive both at onceAnd then his wife and inlaws are bombarding him with this is a Democrat conspiracy ugh|0 Wow thats great thank you I got some feedback on it and updated a few things too And no not for posting it once I totally spammed it and they werent wrong for banning me and I can own that Lesson learned|1 Carefully left out anything about informing tested americans of the results Just isolate at home dont go to any invitation only events in New Hampshire Its just a flu like illness nothing serious|0 My numbers come from discussions with colleagues in other hospitals I havent seen a publicly available source That is not to say it doesnt exist if you find one please share it|1 There are no direct flights to Canada from Iran So obviously that doesnt work|0 Preprint of this paper had it at 179 percent Our estimated asymptomatic proportion is at 179 95 CrI 155202 which overlaps with a recently derived estimate of 333 95 CI 83583 from data of Japanese citizens evacuated from Wuhan 13 Considering the similarity in viral loads and the high possibility of potent transmission potential the high proportion of asymptomatic infections has significant public health implications 14 For instance selfisolation for 14 day periods are also recommended for contacts with asymptomatic cases x200Bhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022020025866v2fullpdfhtmlhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022020025866v2fullpdfhtml|1 Id say its more like the CPU is the industrial slicer and the gpu is like a massive army of monkeys with wooden knives Those monkeys suck Those wooden knives suck But there sure are a lot of them Even so there are some things monkeys and wooden knives just cant cutI have developed for both and for some things the GPU is just trash The problem has to fit the hardware|1 We know that the r0 is between 24 It spreads fast and can spread asymptotically which is very unusual With Covid19 being a novel virus I theres no immunity Basically because of the incubation period it being able to spread asymptotically the variance between severity of the condition and the current rate of transmission its incredibly difficult to know any reliable figures We can assume thats its uncomfortably fast from Iran Italy and China|0 But are these as good as the Russian elite seals|1 ok I apologize Its that in my opinion you shouldnt just shield yourself from the facts in order to feel better|1 You are right that the dems will probably fuck him over I genuinely hate the Democratic and Republican Party They are both pretty much the same bullshit|0 you mean dead ill|0 Thank you for sharing|1 How come every day for like 3 weeks someone has said today feels like a turning point|1 No there isnt Not here We just have to pay the first 650 out of pocket and everything else is covered Maybe thats not called deductible|0 Okay so youre just making stuff up to smear him got it|0 I think all of us who are salaried have an obligation to help hourly workers I know that I plan to pay my Pilates coach for my sessions whether or not we have them I also have a housekeeper come twice a month and plan on doing the same with her I have the luxury of working from home and collecting a pay check This is a moment in time when we have to act in the best interest of our community and maintain as much normalcy for everyone as possible|1 Yeah but how are toilet paper companies supposed to profit from the hysteria if there is no outbreak|0 I hope we hear more from him|1 There really isnt any legitimately science you can link on this subject its very edge case stuff that isnt really studied because its overall impact is so lowIf you want to be paranoid spray your nonperishables with some alcohol disinfectant 70 methylated spirits works fine wash your vegetables and the like For extreme paranoia stop eating fresh food|1 Utter scumbag Coughing away and creating shit for everyone around him Narcissism at its finest|0 Yeah but it might be propaganda to make it look like the state is doing so much while this might have the only thing they did|1 They did not drop out they suspended their campaigns So they could jump right back in|0 Hell yeah lets upvote this into oblivion|0 Uhhh hows knowing the reported cases going to help you stay away from the virus in any way|1 If you believe the theory that the true death rate of Covid19 is at or below 1 and countries reporting higher death rates are simply not testing enough and missing most of their infections then it makes sense|0 Maybe easing of coughing and chest congestion helps restore oxygen saturation|1 media loves a sensational story so I cant help but feel these stories of horrific illness are exaggerated but againwe cant be sureanecdotally cases that have been shared on reddit have been less dramatic usually fever and cough|0 Thats actually what I was thinking as well|1 pulling out all the stops well according to Trudeau thats French for do nothing|1 Hope youre okay|1 Absolutely precious|1 No I meant process Its never clear on how to actually get a test|0 Well thinking about what you said you are probably right I was just suprised because I thought people were only allowed to leave their home to go to work see a docotor or for grocery shopping So italians can still walk around freely|1 YES Mumbai also came back Negative|0 Seems bad for business to have in demand stock sitting in the back all day|0 These are easy rocks to throe in hind sight Were you calling for increased production of medical supplies in January when it was necessary to begin that process|1 Its soul crushing how many people I talk to think they know everything about this disease With 100 certainty too I talked to a stranger the other night that literally said this is the most well understood disease ever|1 Now I can agree with that|1 S Korea never put in travel restrictions intl or domestic in the first place though They just check temperature of people coming in quarantine as necessary and have them get an app to stay in touch about their conditions Also they check outbound people even more aggressively to encourage international business or so a news outlet said|1 I hadnt really considered the possibility of knocking the R0 down to 1 as the disease is so infectious What would the social distancing measures look like in that scenario Do we have any empirical evidence that this can be done without herd immunity occuring naturally or via vaccinationIs it safe to assume that if we did manage to distance ourselves to this extent wed also eliminate other corona viruses from populations If youre not close enough to transmit Sarscov2 then youre not close enough to perpetuate oc43 or hku1 correct If everyone who has an infection is segregated from society long enough to outlast the infectious incubation period for sarscov2 then the same would apply to multiple other viruses R0s would fall across the viral spectrum would they notI am not disagreeing I just would honestly like to know if this scenario is feasible|1 Its not great here Ive noticed a few not many servicebased businesses near me posting limited hours of operation to protect their employees Ill try to snap a photo of this when I pass by one next timeThat being said the whole bit about masks They arent particularly useful as a preventative measure for healthy peoplehttpswwwlivesciencecomfacemasknewcoronavirushtml especially if its not an N95 respirator mask Theyre more effective for sickinfected people if they simply MUST go out in public to prevent the spread of their own airborne droplets Also all masks and sanitizer in Seattle have been sold out for days|0 No theres not 100s of videos I keep seeing the same dozen or so videos posted over and over again Even these videos arent very compellingA video of a woman laying on the ground after falling down the stairs and hitting her head Wow so scary|0 I used to live in Quebec and it was well known that people rarely got ill in winter but in spring everyone got ill People said it was because all the dormant bugs sprang to life when the temp warmed up Not sure how good of an explanation this is but the pattern of illness was definitely observable|1 Sources please Ive never heard of the CDC being extremely wasteful it certainly isnt known for that in the general public AFAIK|1 In most former communist countries you get payed sick leave httpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofminimumannualleavebycountryhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofminimumannualleavebycountry|0 Thats where Im at as well I dont want it to seem like I just want time off work|1 100 I was posting a month ago about fears that the CDC would sweep some of this under the table to protect the economy andor Turmps reelection bid After seeing how climate change data and pesticide data and a whole lot of other things were silenced or hidden away the writing was on the wall|0 Stronger containment measures would definitely reduce China GDP The best thing for the economy and the best thing for humanity may not be the same thing My thoughts and prayers are with those affected|1 Yeah I work for a major Healthcare equipment distributor and service company and they just put heavy restrictions on travel and have to do screening before going on site to any hospital I suspect mandatory work from home comes tomorrow|1 Ive already warned my friends and family to stay away from my house in the event SHTF because in the event I havent bugged out yet I will not be sharing anything and if they do have to come by make sure its during daylight|1 The doctor gave me a stronger steroid to give her daily to help boost her lungs and she hasnt been sick or coughing since Fingers crossed Should I quit my job now |1 Its probably other hospital employees stealing them|0 California is nextEveryone should head to DC well get this train back on track|1 Yeah|1 The Thanos solution|1 Thanks I plan on kicking cancers ass however that plan doesnt include unforeseen viruses I made sure to get flu shot and pneumonia vaccine prior to embarking on this journey but for now Im selfisolating luckily the people who matter understand my choice|1 This was my first thought too And what about the elderly workers Some work at stores after retiring just to get out of the house and have something to do and social interaction but there are definitely those that actually need the income They are at the highest risk with the highest mortality rate arent they This just sucks for everyone|0 Egypt is a dumpster fire Good luck|1 Ill add that the number of reported confirmed cases were seeing has everything to do with how many tests are being performed and our incompetent Ontario government has decided for some reason to test less people The exact opposite approach to what successful countries have done to contain and mitigate the spreadThank you I dont know wtf people are thinking that any of this is a good signWhen will people realize that we are only on the tip of this thingAnd no Im not a fucking alarmist Im a realist|1 Wow didnt realize they had different teams for the officials|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 True this is a natural disaster not anyones fault Yes China did something wrong in the begining but they tried their best after they realised wtf is going onWe wont blame the US for H1N1 or Spanish Flu so why blame China for this|1 Well good then Shes already home Saves the cost of extradition Now punish her selfish idiot ass|0 Im glad you made the top comment lol asking the real questions here|1 Sure however we have mounting evidence that close contact is not required and the population density is quite high in these areas The paper you link in fact explores quadratic growth as an alternative model to better understand a class of slower spreading diseases It begins It is well known that the spread of HIV was slower than exponential in several populations even at the very beginning of the epidemic calling attention to the alternative nature of the spread It continues to hypothesize that this quadratic growth occurs when very close contact is required for the disease to spread and for a limited overlapping network of people who would undergo such contact to exist It also acknowledges that HIV experienced exponential growth when these requirements disappear needle sharing in EuropeI certainly hope were starting to see containment but the initial Hubei quadratic numbers dont represent such a time period And they fit a simple quadratic equation very well|1 That Kind of behavior Calls for a knockout and sneeze on his unconcious ass|0 Still no social distancing happens I went for a walkdude get the fuck home|0 Hospitals have different wards for a reason Including wards that specialize in maternity care|1 There is only so much jobs you cant abandon as society a lot of can wait for 1430 days for greater good If government will force it then it can workIts not about all go home but as much people as we can go home and spend minimum time outside China SK Taiwan somehow made it Why cant rest of world|1 dont spread misinformation httpswwwfactcheckorg202003contrarytofalsepostssanitizerhelpfulagainstcoronavirushttpswwwfactcheckorg202003contrarytofalsepostssanitizerhelpfulagainstcoronavirus|1 Maybe but China do not seem to be telling us how many people they tested Hence the CFR may be abnormally high as they didnt test for mild cases The Diamond Princess tested every single person exposed so apart from the fact that it will be an older population and possibly wealthier healthier passengers it should be the perfect Petri dish|1 Why do you feel safer in Washington I will 100 send you some Whats your favorite|1 Yes And it is SO HARD to not say that exact thing to some people|0 Its impressive HK and Singapore both have significant experience with SARS though so were prepared|1 As I said you clearly dont live in the UK Im telling you exactly which Newcastle is being referred to Even people who have lived here all their lives wouldnt have any idea where the other Newcastles are unless you happen to live there|1 PR lol|1 Im definitely prepared As are a lot of people in my community|1 I will be messaging you in 24 days on 20200326 154816 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003262015481620UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUScommentsfbr21tseeingmybuddyfriendsince1stgradepreparingfja10gxcontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirusUS2Fcomments2Ffbr21t2Fseeingmybuddyfriendsince1stgradepreparing2Ffja10gx2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032620153A483A1620UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fbr21tInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Part of the problem is that every generation thinks its more civilised or advanced than those that came before We think we can do things that were tried decades and centuries ago believing theyll just work this time because were so much smarter now If you look at the parallels in society between now and just before the fall of the Roman Empire its uncanny Truth be told were no different and have the same biological drives as humans 200000 years agoThat coupled with short term thinking due to our political cycles means were doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over|0 Not sure if the effect of giving IgG exogenously would shut down our ability to produce IgG Im no immunologist but if this were true in the case of hep b it wont make sense to give hep b igG hep b vax|1 Yep Have a trip booked this summer and thats likely going to change|1 Why are those mutually exclusive Do you expect them to not quarantine infected or suspected infected people With 12 reported cases and 2 person to person you think it cant be contained right now They said containment is possible but that could change in 24 weeks and there hasnt been a federal quarantine in 50 years Maybe watch the video then respond|1 lol the cat is out of the bottleIve never heard that before but its awesome haha|1 True|1 Well this story has the potential to change our planet it already has in many ways Nothing like this has occurred in my lifetime Its a big freaking deal|0 airlines need to stop fucking bitching and just do their part to help prevent further spread if they can|0 Well babies and young children so far have been relatively unscathed by the virus Its something thats intrigued the medical personnel working on a vaccine as these things usually affect the very young and very old the most However COVID 19 hasnt hit the very young terribly hard yet at least|0 Dude I hope you are OK Hopefully youve just got the flu and you can fight it off Fingers crossed for you|1 We dont have any cases yet but Jesus anyone even suspected of having it has to wear a mask We dont have many visitors have been stealing them but even if we didnt have enough to go around we arent risking it Fuck|0 Absolutely notHes GeorgianWere prone to saying dumb things here sometimes its just who we are|0 You know the solution is rather simple right Go and test yourself for the flu If thats negative I think its pretty clear what it is considering the circumstances|1 Im extremely disappointed with the way theyve been generally handling this situation A swift lockdown on the borders should have been in effect from last week Just today they announced that returning citizens from china have to take 14 days leave of absence This should be extended to anyone who visits a doctor and displays symptoms of even common cold Surgical masks are still out of stock The gov should tap into its reserves and distribute these to privatised pharmacies People are already scalping these masks online Singapore being a global transport and shipping hub with huge amounts of foreign workforce needs to realise that its not a question of if but when|0 Seattle had one jobWash your handsThey failed entirely What a national disgrace|0 Thats why I bought both safety glasses and shooting glasses looks cooler|1 The flu is essentially everywhere The flu numbers you are seeing are it at saturationThe new coronavirus is showing up in scattered places Its not everywhere yet but its spreading quicklyIf coronavirus is able to physically spread to all the locations where the flu is it will quickly beat the flu in number of deathsAnd it is spreading more quickly and is able to spread long before people show symptoms It also doesnt appear to be seasonal as warm countries and those in summer now also affectedEssentially you are comparing the total outbreak flu season is winding down to just the start of coronavirus You cant do that in absolute numbers|0 Me too People need to be spamming this guys twitter with pictures of the guy from Jaws|0 Thats understandable Well this goes to show how insignificant normal citizens are for them Fuck them|0 To be fair the CNAs I work with in my nursing home dont do shit but get annoyed at me when I wake them up to tell them their patients are yanking their tubing out|0 Videos of viruses are way less funny|1 Technically we are all going to die Whether by old age disease or car accidents or drinking ourselves to death after 2020 Election We are all mortal We are all going to die one way or another|0 Also I dont think US citizens actually take the effort to look for USmade products I recently started to be more conscientious of this stuff and I am pleasantly surprised by how much US competition there is|1 Now I can sleep tonight thank you|1 Hm These numbers are likely heavily skewed towards severe cases as they showed up in the early stage of the epidemic as wed otherwise have many more reports of children in critical condition by now than we do There is one confirmed case of a 2 year old with COVID19 induced pneumonia in Germany that Im aware of Bear in mind most younger kids in winter are constantly ill with mostly mild symptoms and one would rarely take them to the doctor for some cough and sniffles|0 Do you not remember your really weird dreams way better from a nap versus a regular nights rest|1 In fact your immune system can synthesize hypochlorous acid to fight an infected wound The reaction uses hydrogen peroxide and is responsible for the bleachy odor when you get peroxide on your skin Very dilute solutions are harmless at worst theyre oxidative stressSomewhat less dilute solutions cause internal corrosive burns so treat it with a ton of respect|1 One of many empty gestures by the United States government Shit is about to get real here|0 I suppose if the virus becomes pandemic your comment could be true of the old and feeble you care about too|1 Yes but people feel scared and the WHO is following protocols rather than panicking with them Clearly that means they are wrapped around Chinas finger somehow1|0 Seems like a good idea but Id be cautious with this one From what I read in the FAQ I would NOT trust this website Live updating the numbers is a nice feature though|1 I mean gathering together for a good pitchfork convention might not be the best way to contain this at this moment|0 SARS came to my city Vancouver but I wasnt worriedA stopped clock is right twice a day We have been told for years that a pandemic will happen Maybe the hour has not struck one cannot be sure until late in the game but when it does it will look a lot like this|1 No I dont work for the government this information has been fed to the media in the last day Most of the press will print it for tomorrows papers The government is doing a horrible job of communicating their plans no doubt and the top science guys were too cold and logical in their explanations But the more I read about the actual plans the more they actually make sense I hope Im not subconsciously convincing myself out of blind hope but Im pretty certain Im approaching it with critical thoughtAnd youre right the big IF is how the public respond Its also my big worry because I dont trust people to follow the guidelines unless forced to in a form of police state which in itself probably isnt far away|0 Yes which is why all these calculations are more like guesses CFR should always refer to all infected persons but thats impossible for a huge outbreak CFR can go up if more cases die than recover CFR can go down as more mild or asymptomatic cases are discoveredIts also possible for both to happen so you get the same 2 figure as before|0 I dont know why people are downvoting you just because one place couldnt get supplies in quarantine doesnt mean thats the same everywhere I live in bum fuck nowhere Australia we wouldnt really need to stock up in quarantine because we still have local shops Assess where you live then decide on stocking up|0 I think at the end of all this those who are alive ie the majority of us will have had blood on our hands|1 Not another soul for miles and all records are not in my name and I am not registered to this addressSo you have no legal proof of ownership of the house no way to contact police if someone decides they like the look of it and no recourse if it gets seized Theres prepping and then theres paranoia|0 Well he had a vasectomy his sister died of colon cancer and he had precancerous polyps removed he has impotence problems because of his high blood pressure meds and had his heart completely stop last summer My witchy way only took 30 years but I shall use that on him Thanks|0 Exactly the virus can mutate as it already has there are two major strains of it currently Also all this talk of letting it run through the population to prevent a second large wave is pointless suffering if a vaccine can be found in time|0 Just a random question for the people suggesting not to buy these specific masks Is there an alternative mask you would suggest that when combined with proper PPE and hygiene habits could help reduce your risk of contracting an airborne pathogen I travel a lot for work and have to frequent many airports so contraction is a worry of mine|0 Totally agree The broken tests have allowed this to occur I think they were at least a month late blocking flights as well|0 To say wearing masks is not effective is simply ludicrousThe issue is people dont understand why wearing the masks is helpfulWearing a mask does very little to prevent you from catching coronavirusWearing a mask does a lot to prevent other people catching it if you have itIf lots of people wear masks it reduces the chance of spreading because people who are sick but are unaware or not showing symptoms dont spread it as much Wearing a mask does not protect you from getting it at least not very much but it significantly reduces the chance others get it from you if you have it|0 I get that My sincere sympathies to youBut there are many people who CAN socially distance themselves but they refuse to or their employers wont let them Thats what this conversation is about|0 My heart hurts hearing this Im in healthcare and the frontline has enough to worry about Stay safe as you can praying for you|0 Holy shit that sounds awesome|1 The arrogancepride is a disease of it own One of the Deadly sins actually|0 2 is also the fatality rate of cases that go reported Based on the Diamond Princess asymptomaticmild cases statistics the actual fatality may be much lower given that some percent who knows how much exactly arent reported at all|0 Because youre paranoid Theres no reason to think its going to spiral out of control Its possible but time will tell Dont jump to conclusions and scare yourself|0 Except that not everyone is at fault so youre insisting that everyone suffers for the greed of a fewWell weve already had that stage Next|0 696 confirmed Bruh I feel sad for them|0 A week ago we had thirty cases Three days ago was not 15Although its definitely spreading at an unsettling rate either way|0 It might be nice for the CDC to tell us just how infectious and contagious it is instead of whatever the fuck those press conferences were supposed to tell us|0 Somebody today tried to argue with me that the CDC should not be responsible for tallying casesHow could you make that argument with a straight face and in good faith If not the CDC then who is supposed to track something like this|1 Not surprising after the disinformation campaign put on by the Western media|0 They have tried to cover this up and play it down from the star Its disgusting No one will take it seriously or change their habits until they are told to do so That needs to happen now|0 Can the RCORONAVIRUS community please create a WIKI for appropriate self quarantine and self treatment options Hospitals are going to be over run around the world|1 doubt|0 20 in a major hospital in Mass sounds low Maybe I dont quite have a grasp of how that scales|0 Wow just wow this warms my heart|1 The UK isnt doing nothing Stop talking pish This httpswwwgovukgovernmentpublicationsrespondingtoaukflupandemichttpswwwgovukgovernmentpublicationsrespondingtoaukflupandemic is the peer reviewed pandemic response plan that the UK is following almost to the book|0 The people not in essential services who refuse to StayTheFuckHome will be selected out of the genepool in the next stage of evolution|0 Lol imagine thinking youre more important than everyone else or that no one else has a different life than you live Great points crestonfunk|1 Admittance to an emergency ward in Australia unless you visit one of the very few private hospital emergency wards has nothing to do with private health Private health covers the hospital stay if you are admitted to a private hospital which emergency rooms arentIts also not true that having private health stops you having access to Medicare ALL Australians have access to Medicare|0 Eh kindof depends He could have preemptively not necessarily gone out as much or avoided close contact with people I mean a husband wife spread is not shocking by any means and a pretty safe assumption he would get it Or he could have gone about his daily life but even then not everyone goes outhas contact with people like that Also depends on if he was working etc etc etc|1 Nobody I know is taking this seriously at all|0 Ive been following this closely on pol since the start They often exaggerate but this seemed different so I kept an eye on it I only recently found this sub I just assumed that Reddit wasnt talking about it since most of the time the users here live in their own little bubble|0 Thank you To you and each and every person that has written in with their ideas knowledge and offers of their time and equipment to make this work I am just a regular person with no technical knowledge of what you are doing but I know enough to know all you people are angelsAll pulling together in this crisis to help everyone You can do it Almost makes me want to cryyou are all proof that if people pull together all the bad stuff can be overcome You have given me more hope than I have had in a long time not just about the virus but for mankind in general Everyone needs to know what all you guys are doing Thank you Thank you Thank you all |1 No there wouldnt that would be one of the most stupid things to do publicly in a pandemic Youre judging a response to a once in a lifetime pandemic through the eyes of everything the tories do is bad and evil Seriously frustrating that you throw around conspiracy theories without a shred of evidenceQuestion if we should be tackling this differently sure but to suggest that world renowned scientists would take a bullet so that the government can save the economy which it isnt in case you havent noticed the global economy is tanking is outright crazy|0 More like Janis v|1 Id like to short this company|1 Well you better take advantage Because when this hits you guys and it will the swarm will come through and everything will be gone I know this because I saw it happen with China and I live in Washington and I warned my family a month ago and then boom Panic mode I warned my family a month ago Then this last weekend they were freaking out going out with the masses asking me what they should buy|0 If theres a thing that can unite the peoples around the world its the hate for the Olympics|0 Its good to believe in science|1 Theres some reverse maskshaming here in Japan Its not so bad that if youre out in public without a mask people will call you on it but if youre coughing without a mask youre likely to get called out There have been some stories in the news lately about fights starting because people were coughing without a mask|0 I do wonder how this will spread in places like Tulsa that city was like nothing Ive seen before You couldnt even walk from the house I was working from to a store a few hundred meters away due to the layout of the roadslack of sidewalks and even the ATMs were drive through If people undertake a bit of social distancing wash their hands more close the barsrestaurants for a bit and so on I really cant see it getting that far compared to somewhere like London or Paris|1 Ebola is easy to prevent with modern infection control methods it is only spread by toughing body fluids It persists in DRC because it is war torn and people there mistrust medicine Their ancestors were insanely brutalized by Dutch colonizers mistrust is understandable But the sum total of that situation is that we cant do much to help people attack hospitalshttpswwwwhointnewsroomdetail19042019whoebolaresponderkilledinattackonthebutembohospital Given the fact that were safe from ebola and that there isnt much we can do to help it doesnt make headlines|0 I remember watching a CGTN chinese funded documentary on Wuhan medical staff and how they are caring for the patients i remember seeing some blood on sheets of a patient around the butt area when they were wiping her down i dont know exactly what video it was but i specifically remember seeing that I do remember it was a 40 min one i think 24 hours in Wuhan|1 Deleted because it is real Her original blog has now been deleted Thats her years of memories of life when her parents were still alive|1 Please keep in mind that these numbers came from China Outside Hubei all the patients tested positive were admitted to the hospital and closely monitored Antivirus medications effective or not were given starting from the first day If every mild case is encouraged to recover at home and if the health care system is overwhelmed just like what happened in Wuhan in January and early February we should refer to the numbers from Wuhan which unfortunately are not available My personal opinion is both severe illness rate and death rate are much higher Pretty much most of the cases need hospitalization wont survive|1 In Singapore everythings going as well as it can be Our government went with extremely aggressive testing and contact tracing from the start and in February we had the most cases per capita But now its March and we havent had a single Covid related death and the spread is controlled|0 Stay safe you guys And stay away from people Give them a wide berth Im from Singapore so weve had two months training for this Even here despite all the experts raving about how good our system is we had a couple of weeks of panicking as well People are a lot calmer now and going back to their normal routines given that the government has demonstrated that we have this under control but I think everyone has a stockpile of hand sanitizers masks surface sanitizers and a relatively wellstocked pantry just in case Just dont worry too much about stocking up on toilet paper if youre staying at home even if you run out of toilet paper you can just use water to wash|1 Its almost like you should read more than the title of an article|1 It could be fine Ask them to take measures to reduce risk Maybe arrange for groceries to be delivered to help them stock up My family is keeping to ourselves as much as possible|1 Doesnt it also seem like they waited too long I mean those early videos of chinese ppl dying in the streets were pretty early|1 i doubt it their entire model is based on hiring as few moderators as possible|0 Why would people go to a crowded Walmart in the middle of a pandemic Is toilet paper more important than their lives|1 Fuck em|0 I dont think this is a good take a family of 4 has a much higher grocery budget probably a higher mortgaterent payment perhaps multiple cars more credit card debt etc Adding people to a family wont necessarily increase costs linearly or on a diminishing scale|1 So It wasnt a guess This was a known cluster Its a very very high profile cluster It would have been irresponsible to ignore it|0 He is lying This is coming from a Trump supporter Maybe the situation is so bad lying is the only option I dont know but suspect this could be the case If Trump came out and said listen we have tested barely anyone and probably have missed 23rds of actual cases incubation is long so anyone could have it and we wouldnt know yet and 36 of people infected which will soon be millions will die maybe as high as 10 we arent sure nobody is immune and even kids and young people can die from the virus If it mutates it could get better or significantly worse and this kind of virus mutates all the time so roll the dice on that What do you think would happen if he said that All those things are probable none of those things I mentioned arent supported by the evidence of the current situation|0 We need up to 4 weeks of national lock down and vigorous testing and isolation during that time x200BThe USA is on the precipice of darkness ALL non essential operations must be shut down Grocery stores should operate on limited basis and ensure food is getting to the hungryx200BIts time for sweeping measures globally It will create pain and panic but the alternative is MUCH worse I am hoping countries globally heed the call and do what it takes to ensure the spread slows enough for our front line workers to be able to give the best care to the sick This isnt a difficult decision Its only difficult in execution I have a feeling we will see this in the USA very soon|1 I cant get the sound to play|1 no Shit i have a heavy chest cough that hurts a bit that just started today I live in Tacoma Washington doing my due diligence i tried to get tested because Im in collage and the collage should know if there is a confirmed caseafter 3 hours of conversations and no one knowing where to point me I ended up at a small clinic next to a hospital in downtown Tacoma There is a single nurse there with a line of heavy coughing people basically just telling everyone to self quarantine If you dont immediately need to go to the hospital you are not testedi was basically told that its very likely I have the virus and to self quarantine There is no apparatus in place to contact people who are effected in the US even for those are tested After all this shit show our government response is a single frustrated nurse with a thermometer and a mask x200Bthis shit is going to get out of hand FAST|0 This an example of the cascading wave of economic damage here If you cant spend money or pay your bills then the next guy up the chain cant either Stores and restaurants wont pay the rent then banks start to lose money as mortgages arent paid 2020 is going to be the largest economic contraction since the Great Depression Probably even worse|0 Thank you to all the front line health providers for putting your lives on the line to save ours We love you|1 This was on February 4th She has no travel history Thats quite early to think of community spread|0 Yeah I mean people with severe alcohol isms already do this sort of thing when they cant get a hold of actual drinkable alcohol|0 Seems like China has a bigger problem than they are letting onThose Chinese CDC workers should have waited until the camera was off before hauling him away to a gulag If they had nothing to hide they would not assemble the equivalent of the Stasi over youtube videos|1 I think you missed the good news|1 This is what it looks like when covid19 hits senior city|1 Yes|1 Wow this very well could cost him the election I thought he was immune to bad press until COVID19 rolled into town Its crazy how quickly things can go sideways|1 My friend works in a pediatric hospital in San Francisco and she wrote a facebook update saying they have enough masks for each staff member to get one per shift for the next 30 days and then they will run out Those are supposed to be fresh for each room|1 Only if Pelosi pulled a Tyler and said no Im not Acting President I am the President didnt take any shit from Trumps cabinet of goons and fired them all nominating a bunch of new acting secretaries like Trump has been to get around the need for Senate confirmation as Trump has|0 Keep the stock market going till the rich cash out a littlebitmoreRich cashed out few weeks ago look at the prices of gold etc|1 We definitely cant Everyone in my area is acting like a major jackass pretending its a hoax still Trump really fucked us|0 Which half Because it it was the republican half thats ironic|0 Just boil the motherfucker On a more serious note I actually have OCD related to hygiene not the popular ah Im so OCD saying but actually diagnosed by a psychiatrist and I recommend separating all items used indoors and all items used outdoors and never mixing them For instance I have an ipad but I never touch it without having showered and washed my hands thoroughly and I dont bring it outside of my house So its always clean My phone I only use for calls and if I do get a call I wash very thoroughly after I use itx200BThough my OCD might actually end up slightly helping me handle this infection rate from Covid19 its still not worth it honestly a friggin hellish disorder occasionally x200BBut yeah agree with OP phones are gnarly as shit Good luck to everyone P|0 A testing kit here is 56 per testAint cheap But also aint outrageously expensive|1 Lets hope theyre wrong |0 Just 1 problem with your data it averages around 10 days from diagnosis to fatality So if there are 26 deaths on March 2nd that relates to the diagnosed cases 10 days early of 278 However we shall see over the next few days if the fatalities raise in line with the ramp in diagnosed cases|0 At least kids dont get very sick from covid even though they can spread it My husband and I were just talking and if there was a chance our child could die from infection wed lock ourselves in our house until this is over Many families are going to suffer American government is not taking this seriously enough|0 Ah thanks I couldnt remember the name of the event|1 Im also a college student and just sat by a sneezy Chinese exchange student in the library Id like to believe they havent gone back home since winter break hopefully not at all|1 Hes sick whether or not he has Corona remains to be seen|0 Its a joke like that arabian kid who invented a clock or whatever|1 I absolutely agree but dont doubt for a moment that to the only ones with real authority to protect them your grandmother and mine are nothing more|1 BOOOOOOOO dont even float this BS Who would benefit the most from a worldwide pandemic Really think here What countries can implement strict draconian policies on its people and retain power Who can lock their citizens into their homes and drag them out to haul them away with no consequences Who can wait out this storm the longest What countries cannot You want to get into conspiracy theories float the one that the CCP started it to weaken the west Because that is more plausible|0 I almost downvoted this just out of instinct how ridiculous|0 Dont forget that mild still includes what we think of as mildno symptoms few symptoms minor cold Their definition of mild is way too wide but you guys are assuming that youll automatically get the worst of the symptoms in this misnamed mild category Its obvious that most people with this are not getting pneumonia Thats part of the reason its spreading so fast Most people with it think they just have a cold They really need to add a moderately serious category or something for cases that knock people flat for weeks and take time to recover from but dont require a hospital to survive|0 Having to crawl on all fours across a cold floor while your head is pounding just to get to the bathroom agony|0 Laughing You sound like nice people|1 population density in major cities are comparable around the globe Its only when it comes to rural areas the difference is significant and if we account for stuff like unlivable desert in US and permafrost north in canada they arent actually as low indensity as they claim|1 I am now more excited on my Poland trip next year I dont exactly know why|1 There are videos on twitter of the California air national guard and the US coast guard delivering test kits with helicopters I hope it gets sorted out quickly|1 I wish I could but I have to get the train every day to get to college and be at college might just call in sick|0 They should make the standoff up to two weeks just to be safe|1 Yeah I was just crunching the numbers Little Italy has added essentially 100 cases a day from Jan 31 to Mar 4 They started with one and in 34 days have exploded to 3800 It was from testing Doctors in the US are very concerned saying we like have thousands of cases but cant test so meanwhile everyones spreading it as asymptotic spreaders for 314 days before symptoms appear Worst advice ever that we should wear masks until we show symptoms Never mind the spread rate while you werent showing symptoms was 47 people out of 10 Its just very frustrating to watch the officials move so slowly at this when breakouts are happening in CA and WA and other places|0 my parents are in their late 50s Do they have underlying health conditions like cancer or diabetes If yes then they need to be hospitalized as soon as they show symptoms If not then they should stay home and keep an eye on their symptoms to ensure their bodies fight it off|0 Fair enough Hope you get some rest|1 It is a solid theory definitely makes you wonder what other reason would triumph over this one|1 Was talking with a Chinese friend the other day who told me to think what it would be like to be given 6 hours before a mass quarantine would exist for the size of the DC and LA Metro Areas combined about 117M where everyone would be confined to their homes for two weeksAnd to hear that 5M people left is not surprising Must have been an epic traffic jam|1 Assume anything you buy at the store or order may have have coronavirus on it including the shopping bags and shipping boxes When you get home be careful with the bags and shipping box Either disinfect them or throw them away but remember theres a chance the coronavirus is on your hands while touching that stuff until you wash your hands Wash the items you can and disinfect the rest the outer box of stuff in boxes You can also get the coronavirus on you shoes and clothes The former by walking where someone with it coughed or spit the latter if someone with it coughed or sneezed near you Normally thinking about germs to this extent would be considered nuts like an extreme germaphobe but these are ways the virus can still infect people who otherwise wash their hands and use hand sanitizer|1 It was archived and here is the link httpsarchiveisEm4PjThey caught to much public outcry so they changed it I guess Above is what is what they released a couple days ago|0 Werent both created for Worlds Fairs|0 Watch shows chat on the phone play games cook Many people post their kitchen failures|0 Great news the virus is coming for Ethiopia too |1 bravo to italyx200Bimagine if someone records the entire applause and uploads it that would be history right there|1 For years our government services have been shaved down gnawed away in favor of tax cuts for the rich and defense spending Shortsighted people thought We dont need these things right now so why should we pay for them Selfish people thought The health care of others isnt my business I have insurance so why should I pay for them Lobbyists and business owners thought If my employees take time off sick they are hurting my bottom line so why should I pay for them And now we are learning why We are learning it in the worst way We pulled blocks from the bottom of our collective jenga tower to build higher views for the wealthiest members of society and now it will tumble Our country elected an idiot trustfund manbaby to the highest political office in the land and then let him purge the government of competent people in favor of yesmen and business cronies and now everyone is wondering why things arent working Where are the tests Where is the leadership We got rid of them Its our own faults Im just pissed that even the people who havent ignored the problem people who voted for compassion and longterm thinking people who fought for our constitution will suffer as much as those who are truly to blame Who the fuck put these imbeciles in charge We did|0 Speak for yourself I finished prepping the first week of February and have only gone to absolutely necessary doctors appointments since then No going inside grocery stores or anywhere else besides where I live|0 some countries like china The same China that in January ordered to stop testing samples from Wuhan and destroy all existing samplesAmerica cares about dollars China cares about preserving face Europe is the only chance for guidance|1 what quarantine facility is better than a cruise ship A hospital sure how many countries have spare empty hospitals just laying aroundA custom built quarantine facility for 3700 people Surely better But who has thatThe USA is one of the most prepared countries for an epidemic although the forprofit health care system will undermine it and had to send the few hundred quarantine persons to a military base because that was the only way to house them Most countries unlike the USA dont have a crazy number of military bases just laying around|1 seriously CDC Should get extra funding from DHS AND THE Pentagon to tackle itclose up of Trumps headCDC needs funding Golfing day CDC needs funding Golfing day CDC needs funding Golfing day|0 The economy is already fucked|0 The US govt just demonstrated that its virtually impossible to extract people from the ship in a clean way The passengers need to be taken to another 14 day quarantine on land in Japan with separate rooms and ductless heating Its either that or letting them walk off the ship by Friday straight into airports and commercial flights Who the hell would want to sit next to someone who has just come off the Diamond Princess|1 The virus has been spreading for 2 months Thousnds of nonChinese have been evacuated from ground zero of the spread in Wuhan Nonchinese people have caught and quickly recovered from the virus This thing is just not sticking to Western populationsSomething tells me that whether its next week or next month when news still says only Asian people are getting seriously ill and dying from this youll still say its too early to tell|0 More powerful is not the right word but mayors and governors and state and local government in general has more of an impact on your life|1 Thanks And I completely believe you FWIW Im filling in family that is not on Reddit Thanks for telling us|1 Lol yep hand pump and all every morning haha jk were advanced enough to have an electric well with a motorized pump |1 Dude The entire genre of deadly pandemic films will have to find a new set of heroes|1 So long as they keep these people in isolation for at least 10 days after bringing them back then I dont care|0 Great job on getting downvoted Boomers cant win Im one|1 The thing is they do work Some people contaminate their hands when removing the mask The solution to that is to wash and sanitize your hands after removing the mask The masks work its so infuriating and saddening and makes me want to angry cry that the CDC is saying that they dont Every shred of evidence from everywhere says that they do|0 I dont think its that difficult to understand that 02 is not the same number as 0|0 I know this well I just had a back and forth with a woman in my community Facebook page Either she is a complete idiot or she is in denial She even said heart disease is a worse threat but no one talks about it I broke down all the numbers in the simplistic way and she still did not get itWe are fucked because if people dont take this seriously like so many didnt in Northern Italy before things got serious then we have no chance|0 Nope thats cheating My fitbit only tracks the first time I put my foot somewhere|1 China is doing at least two tests multiple days apart before they declare survived This obviuosly slows down these numbersCurrently it is believed that Corona takes between 2 and 4 weeks to recover from so expect a long lag|1 The second derivative of an exponential function would itself be exponential so no it could not plateau and still be exponentialBut yes it could decrease all it wanted but if it never turned negative wed still all be infected D|0 I keep getting more and more pissed off|0 I dont know Im not an expert but from what I hear they do about 50 to 100 tests in the US So far there doesnt seem to be any community spread Its just individual cases that can be tracked and most are probably from the Diamond Princess|1 Except that I have no union lol I know theyre going to do right by teachers and public workers and stuff Its just strange to not know because everything is handled day by day Both of my parents are teachers in a different state with union where classes are cancelled for the rest of the semester with elearning starting in a week though their district is 11 with tech so its easy for them I have off for the month now but I know itll change to longer Its just weird that its such an unprecedented thing that there have to be talks about what to do to make sure people are going to be okayMy brother is a waiter in a state that shut down restaurants so he has no job but is a student and still has to pay for classesAgain just crazy that nobody knows what to expect when they wake up every day|0 Not defending him just saying there would of been outrage if he shut down schools Not all parents can stay home from work to look after the kids Perhaps hes hoping infection rates will stay stable till the school holidaysunlikely though You either shut every thing down or keep it open and ask everyone to comply with the hygiene measures The 15m rule is dumb feel sorry for the teachers who have to enforce this I cant even stop touching my face|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Umm did you dead it Preparedness and Response Capability INCREASED Your own document shows it lol|1 How about what did the give them Not what they didnt There is a case study from of a woman with HcOv229E which caused severe headaches fever and LRTI They tested for anything and everything known related Before coming to conclusion of HCoV 229E and the virus being absent of the SARS and MERS cOv Then strategically started treatments none working for LRTI She was on oxygen and assistance most of the time The LRTI the started showing symptoms of ARDS the doctors then began a systematic treatment of corticosteroids and she with in 48 started to make a positive turn return check up after release was 23 months later healthy and clear of all virus She was 45 with no medical history medications or recent travel That is what needs to be done at the very minimum for every CURED patiant And publicly posted for the world to contribute to further research|1 Its OK he has God on his side|1 Wellwell well now would you look thatguess who wasnt taking it seriously few months back|1 Last thing our government wants is us to be informed might hurt the economy|0 Some people are having luck finding basal thermometers because most people dont know about them so they get overlooked in stores Theyre usually located by the tampons|1 Well they mostly rely on people being responsible and they mostly are so far People enter shops I dont know how it looks like in supermarkets and pharmacies separately and stay at home Not sure how it will look like tomorrow in churches but even priests encourage people to watch the mass on TV and stay home|1 I tend to always have enough stock that i could isolate myself at home for a week if shit hits the fan I did not need to do anything extra for this virus other than wait and see if it reaches my country|0 maybe its just a false negative that needs multiple test to confirm|0 The United States will probably have a series of fierce outbreaks in dense areas of the US rather than one large outbreakFurther the US doesnt even know how many cases it has and where they are due to virtually no testing It could have 50000 cases but not know it yet|1 When do you think its reasonable for the US to have a robust system of testing tracking along with an RO below 1 Im thinking early June with a ton of support from warmer weather UV rays|1 We already knew this since the CDC announced that community spread was inevitable about 3 weeks ago or so Remember that hero scientist who said it without white house permission Trump wanted to shut them up and made Pence boss of the virus task force and control the message The CDC was gagged its that simple|1 I mean there is a lot of FUD and not enough of warsh yer handsPoliticizing a public health danger whether its trump coworkers the media or you isnt going to help|0 Im surprised We still see Germany as very well organized and efficient here|1 Ok Boomer SoonersIn all seriousness I hope everyone looks back and realizes how wrong and stupid they behavedspoke the past few weeksThat simple reasonable small measures like staying home were primarily was what prevented serious and permanent damageThe lack of testing in America was directly caused by no plan being in place or implementedexecuted effectively|0 yes it is|1 Dont know why you got downvoted Shorting is a MAJOR source of revenue for rich people in the know Most redditors dont even know you can make even more when the market goes down than you can when it goes upEdit Since I was asked in a PM here is an exampleRemember when Trump implemented Steel Tariffs in 2018 Market went down hard that week due to businesses using Imported steel facing increased costs Who won Those that knew Trump was going to make those changes beforehand and Shorted the Steel Market|1 Im not paying these losers overtime|1 Youre right OP It makes me so mad Just because someone like my mom is older and has lived her life doesnt mean she deserves to die Its super insensitive and awful of people to say this|0 So basically encouraging the public to endanger themselves to prop the economy and increase chance of reelection|1 Thats correct it showed up on Twitter as a supposed relink from weibo a couple days ago now It definitely didnt come from Snapchat originally|1 Yeah its happened to at least hundreds of people across Facebook Ive seen|1 In sweden we just removed the one unpaid sickday we had so now we get 80 of our regular pay from day one in effect to atleast to mid april|0 Well I still havent Played Through The Whole Metal Gear Solid series and I own all of the games so Guess Ill start there Lmao|1 Dahhh Thank you for listening to the Department of Derp da derp Also water is wet and ice is cold That is all|1 Dont forget to open your windows for a couple of minutes afterwards so all this cleaning doesnt reduce indoor air quality|1 Take the 3 brain cells you have left and do some more researchSorry it sounds like youve had a hard time or lost work or something and thats why youre saltyNews flash we ALL have This is about more than this right now though Think about other people|0 Now they have to pay tax on itJust give em a wad of cash or a check even Dont leave it as a tip|0 The CEO of AHS confirmed community transmission in Alberta in an email Its out and some people still arent taking it seriously|1 You defo had it and got the wrong treatment with antibiotics and prednisone both dangerous mistakesYou got lucky my friend|0 Surprise surprise real data starts emerging after countries other than China have major outbreaks|1 Without hindsight we can only extrapolate earlier examples In Wuhan groceries kept being delivered the lights stayed on and the water kept flowing Lets hope basic things stay functional If not I have my stash so I could keep going for 6 months|1 luckily blood pressure is curable with what you eat|1 Patients being held are super isolated You are at way more risk of catching it in the wild or if you have close relations with a patient|1 Good Why should they be subjected to a second wave when they took such drastic action and everyone else twiddled their thumbs|1 It is not I posted a YouTube link from wuhan showing that the hospitals are refusing to take ANY patients so that there will be no new cases for china propaganda purpose it was deleted everywhere either post or comment|0 There is no research that suggests marijuana usage is connected with any changes in ACE2 receptor expression However this is not a wellstudied area Smoking weed is probably not a big risk factor but its hard to know for sure|1 please visit this post for more infohttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsf6nxzuistherearoleforaceiarbsintreatmentofhttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsf6nxzuistherearoleforaceiarbsintreatmentof|1 This is what I am interested in as well what if they quarantine you in some fancy plastic tent with doctors around you Do you need to pay for that|1 Really You think war or the return of actual totalitarians would be better than more Trump|0 Oh yeah but masks dont help sureFP3 Masks and N95 do help but you also need goggles|0 Washington resident here 40 minutes from Everett Had a cough for over a week Luckily no fever|1 3595 to read a 2page warning letter from doctors in Hong Kong is a paywallhttpsassetschangeorgphotos3ivzeJEiVZEeKclAOLVX800x450noPadjpg1582731874 Paywalls bar about 70 of all scientific research meaning you need a subscription to read most of the worlds science Not all scientists have those subscriptions which in total can cost millions of dollars a year for each institution|0 Ive been following this virus since at least January 18th I know that because om January 18th I ordered n95s p95s goggles hand sanitizer lysol and began stocking my pantry and prescriptions This wasnt news to anybody This was a coverup|1 That is not true and youd know if you read the Taiwan CDC daily updates They contact trace everyone|0 Ridiculous I dont imagine a waiting room in an AE department being quiet Plus the uber driver How many people a day do we suppose he drives around This is not contained at all|0 Its propaganda Notice how all news that makes the CCP look bad dried up a couple days ago|0 This specific software piece This one single app You are reading way too much into that very generalized comment They asked about that piece of software Im honestly baffled why you are so focused on it Im not giving the dude a full rundown of every security scenario or every security comparison Most people understand the concept of viruses and malware for desktoplaptop They are aware of updates The big players like Microsoft have stepped up getting updates out If they were to ask more questions I would gladly deep dive and explain detailed comparison The mobile phone is where I find people slacking People do all sorts of weird sketchy stuff on their phone Its sadly peoples entire existence For a lot of people its their only device They have a phone TV and not much more|1 Im really scared Im 28 is it still okay for me to go outside for a walk as long as I keep 1 meter distance to people and sanitize my hands after opening doors|0 For two cases of the virus yes Im talking about a trauma victim coming into a crowded hospital You wont kick a 65 year old off a respirator on the off chance that the mangled motorcycle rider will survive his emergency surgery|0 Tired He has nothing scheduled doesnt read memo reports Obama stayed up late reading them ruminating over difficult global matters and Trump just watches TVLast week he still called this a hoax and only acted when he dropped in the polls a few days ago after his own voters were getting dissatisfied with how he was handling the Coronavirus And oh yes he has a GOLF trip planned for this weekend Yup right back at MaraLago This guy doesnt give a shit about any of this|0 What is this even supposed to mean This comment LITERALLY has no point|0 Democracy IndexThe Democracy Index is an index compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit EIU a UKbased company It intends to measure the state of democracy in 167 countries of which 166 are sovereign states and 164 are UN member statesThe index was first published in 2006 with updates for 2008 2010 and later years The index is based on 60 indicators grouped in five different categories measuring pluralism civil liberties and political culture PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Copyed and pasted before it gets lost in the live feedUK government to provide updates after 24 hours delayBritish health authorities may have had a communications fumble when they announced on Wednesday that they would not be providing daily updates on new coronavirus cases the UK governments chief medical officer has told MPsThey are intending in the medium term to provide more details updates with what Chris Whitty described as a proper dashboard but they would be having a delay of 24 hours to make sure details were correct|0 Fucking same If our government was going what South Korea or Singapore are doing I would probably be doing fine but with them seemingly vying for first place in worst response in the world yeah Im fucking stressed out as fuck and scared for my dad|0 Yes but it didnt take much to re code it And most software was written on platforms by then We were selling y2k compliant kit in 96 And the industry was moving so fast it was onky mainframes that seems to have the problems Pc stuff was pretty much just replaced|1 I think theyve given up at this point but are just pretending so people dont freak out|1 Nope Anxiety will keep you healthy|1 kids under 5as they have no immune systemLol excuse me wat|1 Thats not how the death rate works Death rate is recovered vs death Also most experts are saying there are not actually tens of thousands of undetectedIn areas of significant testing we are seeing very high death to recover ratesTry to stay informed and spend less time with trolling and insults|1 I just created one for my city I encourage you to create one for your own cities httpsmfacebookcomgroups256009272088802|1 Its kinda shocking how the dangerous situation like this one shows the true colors of American governmentIt almost feels like behind all those beautiful speeches about greatness of the country there is total lack of care about citizens lifes State doesnt give a fuck about its people like at all Thats kinda scary|1 Well I know that I was forced to work sick with severe respiratory illness that in retrospect resembled COVID19 as recently as last month and even collapsed at work but beyond that is mere speculation Maybe its different in a wonderful rest home over the rainbow where all the biddies are sweet and all the gramps are hilarious and nobody uses the N word and adequate sick leave policies exist|1 Please explain thats my main concern as well Im being genuine in asking|1 Whos number five Or is it the WHO edit Its Canada|1 To be fair I understand wanting to return to the US and not being stuck in a possible quarantine situation that might result in infection in a place with fewer resources for care That said he could have gone about it in a way that would have been safer for all involved|1 Being in quarantine as an Alzheimers patient must be terrifying|0 Chronic illnesses of the respiratory system make it more likely that even a chest cold grows into something worseI had allergy related coughing asthma when younger and have sometimes been an idiot as an adult by smoking I had a chest cold a few years ago that turned into bronchitis and I cracked several ribs from the coughing That Shit Sucks I also have a nephew with a rare genetic syndrome that causes him a lot of issues including respiratory issues A chest cold will put him in the PICU I have skipped holiday get togethers if Im not 100 sure Im not sick I want to see all my little dudes 5 nephews altogether but its not worth potentially putting one in the PICU or worse|0 This is exactly what happened in wuhan at the beginning I just wished they had stocked up the protection suits Best luck to the health workers their|1 I am O I had chest pain over the last week It never progressed past headache chest pain no cough or fever I havent had chest pain like that before upper lungs so Im like 65 sure I had it Was never more than 2310 on sickness scale|0 Please do not PM me anymore Enough people here have supported that viruses do effect certain blood types more than others Just because youre scared your denial doesnt make the situation any better|1 Will do Hold on tight Best wishes|1 They left from Miami on the Royal Caribbean Oasis Im more worried about other people on the ship who came from other places that might have contracted it|0 I cant wait until this sub is cured and we can all go back to posting pictures of cats Until then Im thankful its here so I can read some real news|1 I tried They laughed at me and rolled their eyes Now they are all scrambling I tried I even had somebody get mad at me for hoarding supplies Im not hoarding anything Stocked up slowly when there were still plenty of supplies I wasnt at Costco fighting over toilet paper|1 This is why unions are important To everyone out there Join your relevant union we have power in numbers|1 Well possibly correct or incorrect opinions until sufficient documented facts may become available to external expects|1 That is called for profit medicine I thought we only had for profit medicine in the US|1 Probably depends entirely on your hygiene procedures If youre that guy from the news who was coughing then drank his daughters water bottle and handed it back Yeah probably going to get coronavirusIf youre this guy who has a rough interlock seems to be sanitizing things well and is sleeping in separate bedrooms Probably a lot better|1 and Australia 15 cases while having massive Chinese tourists before and after CNY And a top 5 biggest Chinese diaspora in the world Indonesia is still 0 also no|0 US hospitals have been told to expect 96 million cases 48 million hospitalizations and 480000 deaths in the next TWO MONTHSThe US goventment is not doing this ie what it should be doing Instead they are denying testing|0 In Wuhan SHTF and it was clearly an all hands on deck situation In the US it is a question of IF we can keep the numbers of patients that require hospital admission to a low rate we medical docs can handle it But IF shit goes full Wuhan every MD is gonna be needed I dont think you are gonna be sitting around waiting for cholecystectomy consults in that situationManagement isnt rocket science either 1 Supportive care whatever antiviral meds antibiotics for any suspected bacterial superinfection2 Hypoxia respiratory failure mgmt with supplemental O2 NIPPV an endotracheal tube vent as patients get more hypoxic Intensivists would then be managing the vents for those who get ARDS|0 read the fine print it excludes about 80 of the work force because it carves out exemptions for companies with over 500 employees small businesses and it doesnt at all address freelance employees thats why the senate and the WH are on board its giving the appearance of doing something while not actually doing anything for most everyone that actually needs it|1 But it only takes one Over time all nations are likely to get one or more super spreaders|1 The number of infected is pointless in that regard because a lot of people with no symptoms or mild ones are not getting tested anymore to prioritize testing kits for more serious casesThe dead are a lot Considering they are mostly from a couple of regions so they should not be compared to the whole population of Italy as a whole as a rough estimate Ive seen suggested that in the areas most hit daily deaths are about 6to10 times what you would have seen without the virus Its not a massgraves kind of situation even in the worst areas so far but its DEFINITELY killing a lot of people mostly elderlies or already compromised due to other health issuesI have no idea what the US and UK expect will happen to them for still doing basically nothing especially considering the unreal amount of obese and diabetic people they have|0 Ask Assange or Snowden what they think about the US just because they uncovered the truth|1 there is already a genetic mapping done for covid it had some mutations but most likely not significant so the body still would recognize it there are other viruses which have similar behavior we have to look deeper into the reason|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I more mean them depicting a world organization in power blatantly not accepting an obvious truth the whole world sees and to use increasingly strong wording without actually doing anything They would likely change up places and people but they could play out the scenario in many ways|1 People need to read this Sadly it looks like Western Europe and the US will have many stories like this|1 People in a lot of industries are freaking out The supply chain disruptions from extended factory closures havent been seen yet but a few weeks from now its going to be a real clusterfuck when scheduled deliveries dont show up on time|0 Im sure there is a category like that for you|1 Ive started making a toilet roll version too incase this one flops |0 Oh my How are you Whats it like|1 As a worried italian I must say this Coronavirus can and has gotten out of hand very quickly and this via the hosts movementsnot pointing my finger at you specifically Edit verbs|1 Look at us in Italy do the same just one month earlier be smart|1 Eastern MO line outside Costco in St Peters about 30 miles NW of St Louis before opening this morning httpsoldredditcomrStLouiscommentsfi43h9thelineatcostcoinstpeters20minutesbeforeA drivethrough testing site in a western St Louis suburb will open tomorrow or this weekend Must call ahead to get tested Wife talked to them this morning and they said based on our symptoms this week they are putting us in the high category but still not approved for testing due to no fevers in the last 24 hours which is a step in the right direction for us at least Instructed to call back if anything changesAm hearing rumors from contacts that stuff is happening over in Columbia MO but at this point its just that rumors until it hits the news People are taking it seriously and getting out of public situations working from home etc Major employers there may send everyone home|0 Well they also have many hrly and salary l4 that are higher If your able its always better to move with your promos to bump up your pay Just a thought Good luck|1 What doesnt this have more upvotes Thank you|1 Ah its yourself I heard they had found someone who thought he was the competent leader we needed in these troubled times|0 My company only just authorized work from home Its ridiculous|0 I think there is a middle ground On one hand it is good to prepare for every possibility so that if a crisis does arise we can handle it One positive is that scientists are working around the clock on possible solutions and treatments even if they do take a while to come to fruition Even if it does not seem like it people from all over the world are coming together to help one another in the worst of times as evidenced by subreddits such as this On the other hand we do need to take this seriously Most of us will not die from this virus but we need to take precautions and help ourselves and the most vulnerable in the population We can do this|1 Did Imperial do mortality or CFRAlso they may be anticipating mortality given a substantial portion not receiving adequate care|0 Theres a lot of confusion going around Theres data to suggest the virus can be detected in droplets for 3 hours post aerosolization in laboratory conditions However doesnt necessarily mean its the prime driver in spread because as you said most droplets will drop far before that httpsarstechnicacomscience202003dontpanicthecomprehensivearstechnicaguidetothecoronavirus2h2|0 Real original|1 70 year curse|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Mac from Always Sunny|1 This is my thought This is like the opposite of the WHO doctors experience who went to China and said almost all positive cases had symptoms|1 could cause panic on a scale that would spook marketsyeah because we must kill our people just so the markets dont get spooked|0 My best guess it was about Tiananmen Square thats about as political and as defiant as you can be The biggest F U to the Chinese Government you could possibly give He says it right after talking about not being brainwashed and not dumbasses The gov has tried to cover it up and act like it never happened so Im 80 sure thats what its aboutNot sure why it would be left out of the translation though Could be possible that YouTube has the phrase auto filtered out|1 even china didnt learn from chinas experience Theyre made the same mistakes as they did during the 2003 SARS outbreak|0 Tax break or subsidy for small businesses We always have money for war this is actually a more serious security threat Major corporations eg Amazon can take the loss|0 The panic is worse then Covid19 to the people and the economy1 Not proven2 Quarantine isnt panic|0 The government should pay you to stay home for 2 weeks if your tested positive Much cheaper on the healthcare system Pay amazonupsFedEx to deliver supplies But yeah most will goto work because they cant afford to stay home|1 the original SARSCov as well as new edition also bind to the receptor which downregulates ACE2 activity and all the inflammatory effects cytokine activity and lung injury recovery attenuation it implies So SARS itself is believed to cause acute lung injury though the ACEACE2 knockout mechanism and so does elevated PM 25 exposure even for brief periods Chinese city PM 25 levels are frequently worse than being in the midst of a forest fire Since Wuhan just recently banned use of even private vehicles I wonder if someone in China has the same thoughts c f Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection httpscmrasmorgcontent204660|0 I never understood who in the world would ever need scented bleach And Id bet all of my money that even the scented variety still smells like bleach|1 Wow I think youre the stupid oneIf a hospital has 100 beds yet 200 people get Covid all at once what are they supposed to do Magically scrounge up 100 beds and the staff to care for themThe denseness in your thought processes is befuddling|1 You are correct Just read the case study of the first 41 confirmed cases The median time people developed breathing difficulties was 8 days after the onset of first symptoms Unfortunately its still too early to say everyone is fine|0 It does seem that the situation can be managed if you implement draconian quarantine on a regional or local level Italy is already doing so with the Red Zone Lets hope everyone else learns that lesson quickly and fully|1 sure but apparently up to 14 billion people have been infected by swine flu so it will take a minute until ncov even gets near that number|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Totally agree Cases in Miami are skyrocketing after the Spring Breakers last week|1 And sell it on Amazon |1 Also its really hard to word things so that people fully understand what you meanYou need to remember that sometimes we tend to miss understand what a person truly means The issues we are discussing are difficult and when repeating what the media is saying it may sound cold and heartless but its also just that information the MEDIA had given usDont assume that means we want it to happen or dont care if it happens We all have questions and concerns|0 Wellthey claim the version in Italy is a mutated one of China maybe its more problematic or has different key features But yes the assume its been there since January so it had a lot of time to become big and spread to other european countrieshttpswwwthelocalit20200228coronavirusmayhavecirculatedunnoticedforweeksinitalysayresearchers|0 Its literally causing multiple organ failure Read the descriptions of the early Chinese fatalities|0 I dont think the 5 was ever ICU I think we need to bear in mind that the 80 mild can be anything up to pneumonia that doesnt require hospitalisationHere is an excerpt from the BBC page here httpswwwbbccoukcoronavirus How deadly is coronavirus and will I get betterFour out of five people who contract coronavirus will only experience mild symptoms a WHO examination of data from 56000 patients says It suggests 80 develop mild symptoms14 develop severe symptoms6 become critically illThe proportion dying from the disease appears low between 1 and 2 but the figures are unreliable Thousands are still being treated but may go on to die so the death rate could be higher But it is also unclear how many mild cases remain unreported so the death rate could also be lower|0 Because big investors are smart they know that problems in industrial powerhouses like China WILL hurt the world economy They sell out because if China has the virus it hurts the US due to so many companies outsourcing their production Its not hard to contemplate Now multiply that to pretty much every country getting fucked on by this virus or soon to be|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Agreed truly a unique event when you have everything from March madness to Disney being cancelled or closing Ive never seen anything like this|0 I mean if we go into fullon recession how are we gonna pay for it What if its worse than just a recession Businesses are going to close up people are going to be out of work Tax income is going to start drying up The system wont be able to handle this we may have little choice|0 Did they think what happens when those young healthy people go visit their parentsgrandparentscoworkers Orthese young people go to an event only to return to their apartment or neighborhood and find it burned to the ground because their elderly neighbor did stay home and collapsed while cooking because they got infected 28 days agoAnd this just figures in accidental possibilityimagine the psychological impact for elderly people if they are alone and they start hearing that their friends are dying in large numbers They are afraid that medical care will be unavailable It is certainly plausible that the already high suicide rate for their age group could increase if they feel abandoned and ostracized and forgotten For some this might simply mean the physically nondemanding step of turning on the gas stovethey go to sleepand then when the gas reaches an open flame or electrical sparkboom goes the building Depression is not simply a danger to one person and that danger is not limited to only certain age groups|1 Prayers to his family and friends |1 This is why the Chinese gov banned reddit|0 Yes and it would definitely change the way people are reacting My parents are in their 70s They did prep shopping and are ready for any shortages or if theyre stuck at home for a long time But they are going out now as if theres a no danger yet Shes meeting friends visiting from Chicago at the mall today I begged her not to go She said I have to live my life when they tell us its bad and we have to stay in I will Its not over here yet like it is over thereNo amount of logical conversation will change her mind She will believe what they spoon feed her|1 They fucking love each other what are you talking about|1 Its the atrophied morality thats the real problem Cities be fucked|0 Thanks so much for the followup I will follow that advice re covering if someone sneezes Unfortunately there arent nearly enough masks to wear one the 210 times per day Im in an elevator I take to a very high floor stairs would be impossible Maybe Ill look into a facsimile to a mask to pull over my faceie my shirtwhen Im alone at least Thanks again|0 Because no one can afford to just stop working for 2 weeks and If you tried to use the excuse I have coronavirus I need 2 weeks off they would just fire you|0 Straight from the poker table You should play the opposite strategy from the players around you But lives are pretty expensive poker chips|1 Because he didnt pull them out At all In fact it was so disorderly that the military didnt even have time to conduct a proper pullback they left a fully functioning airbase for the Russians and Syrians Not only that they didnt even have a retreat route planned they just got shunted over to Iraq and then he immediately followed up by sending MORE troops and starting shit with Iran just cause There is no grand plan he just pulls shit out of his ass and everyone around him has to scramble and figure out how to make sure shit doesnt fall apart and theres something they can say about it Luckily all of his smallbrain hardcore supporters lap it up eagerly because they treat politics like football no matter how shitty your team is you have to remain loyal or be labeled a fair weather fan and a phony|1 Imagine All that effort not to panic people and now we have to convince them its dangerous|1 Definitely agree There are about 30 different candidates right now for one and many places are looking for human trials or started them Due to the wide spread nature of this they will fast track the shit out of this and pharma companies are gonna push it like hell|1 Very interesting But how are the adults avoiding OC43 infection|1 I feel like as a society we are so callous The glee that some use the term boomers and the fact that they are the ones that will be most likely to be affected is just horrifying The only condolence is that age happens to us all and those rude individuals may one day make it to old age themselves though hopefully our society will be kinder by then I hope that my parents are not taken by this virus as my children and myself have so much yet to learn from them They sacrificed so much so our generation could gave it better and they are repaid with joy in their possible demise Shame|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Everybody liked that|1 Well not exactlyhttpswwwstatistacomchart21105numberofcriticalcarebedsper100000inhabitants|1 Yes|1 fucking economyWhere the fuck do you think the money for the NHS comes from Please tell me By all measures strong economies are linked to better life quality longer lifes better health The idea you can just say fuck the economy for a year isbaffling|1 Ive had a slightly dry throat since last Thursday and Ive been coughing every once in a while No fever Some tightness in my chest but Ive been chalking it up to anxiety Ive really wanted to take time off to quarantine but it hasnt been bad The more I see tho Im worried|0 The only good handling Ive seen has been Cuomo fron NY httpstwittercomNYGovCuomohttpstwittercomNYGovCuomo|1 Well it has to overwinter and have a resovoir with common human exposure Stopping wildlife consumption might help prevent it|1 What a bunch of losers|0 Lol I actually am a PPE expert as my day job Just like anything you wear it can leave marks and depending on the type of respirator shes wearing those straps must be on tight for a good seal and are taxing to the bodyrespiratory system to use|1 Canada also Theyll cover any feelgood story they can Ive lost respect for people I truly did trust and rely on before now Their smiling faces as they talk about some bull local story is just incredible|1 Turmeric curcumin has some promising potential for treating cytokine storm|1 Im glad he came aroundThe irony of this pandemic is it might actually wake up this damn stupid cult of Trump Not to rag on your dadIts a virus It doesnt give two shits about trump his supporters trumps lies Its showing right now on full display the ineptitude of this administration and his narcissism|0 Its not sustainablescalable at that level and most people would rather die of illness than starvation a terrible way to goEdit words added scalable|0 None of the 9 infants required intensive care or mechanical ventilation or had any severe complicationsPhewPlus this is all of the infants diagnosed in China if their data sources are correct so thats a pretty small overall number|1 Hey dont insult my only vice besides cigarettes alcohol and women And women|1 He was bleeding from the nose and maybe a little out of his mouth but that was likely from trying to stop it from coming out of his nose He was sent home till the end of the week and then he came back looking better But then he was too sick to work again for a few days about a week after that No idea if it was Corona he never got tested despite all of us telling him to get a test He is a very stubborn and slightly stupid individual A few other people in the office did get sick but none with severe symptoms So either we were lucky or it was something else|0 Earth is going to be like Mira in Star Trek|1 True I remember when the world ended in 2009 from swine flu|1 Swing and a miss|0 Every time I cough feel a scratch in my throat pretty much anything I cant help but think Ive got it Despite these being symptoms that are very common this time of yearUltimately it doesnt matter so long as you feel fine we all should be isolating ourselves right now whether weve got it or not If you start to feel so sick you need medical help then go get some medical help At least thats where Im at with all this|0 It was completely containable and preventable our negligent and corrupt government intentionally put Canadian citizens lives in danger for money and to virtue signal to their fellow SJW cultists|0 Also you can get flu and a cv at the same time or multiple cvs 15 of seasonal colds are caused by Coronaviruses Theres dozens of human cvs SARS and SARSCoV2 are big names but theres plenty more that arent discussed as widely like MERS NL63 OC43 OG kush purple haze Wait scratch those last few|1 I guarantee theres more|1 Id wager that any face covering that can stop you from breathing fine sanded particles in a construction context will impede virus transmission Not to the wearer though Im curious how well they work for people who are around an infected wearer That said Ive got something like this httpwwwcoatingspromagcomarticlessafety201311choosingtherightrespiratorforthejob with a few sets of volatile vapor cartridges Mostly thats for toxic fumes that are smaller than viruses but I do not know if it is rated for viruses If I use it to go in public Ill make sure For now Im not going anywhere near anyone and neither is anyone in my house Where I am I suspect that things arent going to be bad for a week or two then itll be a shitstorm here No need to add to the misery of others now or when it gets bad I noticed certain masks filter the smell of say cigarette smoke better than others Good chance thats also relevant but Im not a doctor or anythingNeither am I though the experts Ive heard from say that a proper mask is a part though covering the tear ducts sealed goggles is also an important part as with all the other precautions that weve both probably heard and read about a few dozen times in the last few weeks|0 This is really upsetting What a fucked up world we live inChina deserves better|0 Imagine the lives save Id fcking take Bush now|1 Me and my husband too Were going on about day 10 and going strong Hopefully you start to feel better|1 Im hearing rumors there will be a mandatory quarantine in 24 hours or so by Turnip views Stafford act Get the ramen supply ready by Monday night|1 Thank you friend|1 In the 1918 pandemic flu the Spanish flu virus people died just like this man described My own grandfather then a young man with wife and daughters became infected had a fever and pneumonia at home and died within the week Interestingly neither his wife nor his two 9 year old daughters were sickened possibly because the daughters were sent to the grandparents apartment It was Eastern Europe at the Russian border|0 Just wanted to thank you and the people at BNO for staying on top of this|1 This is heartwarming and utterly beautiful and all lets not forget that these people boil animals alive not just seafood|1 Think a HUGE part of the reason china is having so many deaths is that they covered it up for over a month instead of addressing it Most other countries are more prepared now for it and people will likely fare better|1 Is hand soap going as fast as hand sanitizer If you are staying at home quarantined and washing your handsthe hand soap should be going faster than hand sanitizer|1 Not quite Its exponential growth Its too late to avoid a ItalyEurope otubreak but this will help rather than not doing so|1 Im curious wether people who feel this way now will feel the same after their grandparents parents relatives neighbours older colleagues are goneA conservative estimate which neither the government nor any of the press is honest enough to even consider mentioning for the Belgian population without measures is an extra 100000 deaths in 2020|1 By Monday this confirmed number will doubleha yesterday at noon we were at around 250 cases The count im looking at from tonight is like 450 so its already almost doubled in a day And remember thats just those confirmed Doesnt include the recently infected up to 24 days supposedly and those that arent tested or false negatives that its notorious for Panic mode will be engaging very soon Sooner that Id thought|0 Its not Locals are upset over it NOLA depends on tourist dollars and were entering our festival season so this is a real shitshow As a local I dont know how to feel no one here wants to get sick but we heavily rely on tourism dollars Its a dire situation Wash yall hands and stay inside and best of luck to you an yall family|1 Yeah that sounds like China|1 I was all set to offer to lend you some bucks when I read your screen nameI guess I really would be a dumb lib to lend a stranger money|0 it hasnt in wuhan which has had the worst of it so far its unlikely it would in a developed country|0 My uni a few of my friends unis moved to online teaching for the foreseeable future as of FridayBut yeah we had an incident where someone who was very likely infected went on an SU night out all su nights are closed nowI agree its dumb but until hardline restrictions are in place many people will act in their own self interest|1 This sub has become ridiculous Bye Good luck|1 Its okay they will just blame it on the dems as usual|0 ty|1 Its too late now This virus is very delayed in how it works People wont take proper precautions until youre already on a trajectory to overwhelming the healthcare system|0 Yep They look so stupid This is why I was lucky to get my kid out of a major city university in a really bad area yesterday Thank God A great school and always a safe place for the students but Things are going to go bad quickly|0 A couple of years ago fire season was really bad where I lived Visibility was alarmingly low Health warnings were announced My workplace gave out N95 respirator masks I hardly saw anyone walking around outside wearing one About a year ago I went to San Francisco when they were experiencing major air quality issues from nearby fires I was surprised that there was no place in the entire airport where you could buy a respirator mask And I hardly saw anyone walking around on the street with a mask too I think it takes a lot to make people buck social norms to protect their health Look how hard it is to get people to use condoms for casual sex|0 We need more news like this Its perfectly valid to feel some level of anxiety about coronavirus but people tend to treat this like the apocalypse and forget that it will get better|1 That is the question I always have for these antiSJW people Why do they care so much about something that doesnt matter Like who would spend time watching a video about a companys online application process and then get mad because its too inclusive What an incredible waste of your youth|0 Me too I keep trying to tell people yes its bad and yes you need to be prepared and cautious But its not literally the apocalypse You dont need a years supply of water and toilet paper The actions we take now will impact the number of people who get sick and die which is very important but the world will still be around when its over|0 Well to be fair the guy he beat was just caught drunk naked throwing up all over himself with meth So Florida didnt offer great choices in the election |0 this is insane you can get fucking tests in haiti but in the US people have to fight to get a test|0 That also doesnt make sense following the exponential growth we have seen so far it will infect all of humanity within 40 daysIt will level off within a week or two because of this reason alone|1 I literally moved my LD boyfriend down to Florida six months ago to give him a fresh start and so we could live together Im really glad we have a solid relationship because Im waiting to hear that well be in quarantine some time next weekFriday is my birthday and Ive cancelled all my plans to stay safe I get wanting a spring break but maybe think about your fellow human beings first for once|1 You know what this also makes me think about Several people who have lived in China say that they go to the hospital for everything They never go to clinicsi dont even think thre really are many at all5 million people fled wuhan in a panic There were videos of massive amounts of the people remaining crowding the hospital to be seen Those that couldnt be seen went home to their families to waitand spread it to them Or those that went to the grocery stores to stock up on food and masks in a panic Realistically even with a conservative R0 of 2 hundreds of thousands of people were inadvertently infected by the end of the first few days of quarantineThose that even had a fever from a cold or flu were thrown in the quarantine hospitals with the assumption that it was coronavirusEven if you omit the approx 20 of cases requiring hospitalization this virus is a bitch The odds are stacked against people not getting it|0 Nah man the girls are in bikinis |0 The alarming thing is they are meeting regularly yet not doing nearly enough|0 Looting and gun fights over food are happening |0 Theyre just very slow at counting Shit gets hard when you hit double digits|0 Another issue is that they physically dont have enough tests Sure it cost so much that WAY TO MANY PEOPLE just can not take the test but if we hadnt wasted the money on wars and bs that never gets solved this couldve been avoided Or ya know free healthcare actually couldve helped Or Obamacare wouldve actually allowed more young people to get tested in this pandemic Or if Trump hadnt lied multiple times trying to calm everyone down but because everyone smart knew he was incorrect then people were confused Then maybe this would not be an issue|1 Multiple people have tested positive after coming into contact with white house staff The President or Vice President could possibly be infected|1 In is in a weird position now almost like being in a limbo|1 They dont not usually at least These people have likely been sick for weeks and only just got tested because WA State got the green light to do its own testing independent of the CDC in Atlanta If youre under 50 and dont have some catastrophic underlying health condition the thing you should be most worried about is passing it along to somebody older Odd are youll be fine|0 Im in NYC too and this is my friend group I went to my last large outing this weekend Im DONE now Id rather stay home and be bored than die because I went to a concert|0 Unfortunate for sure but there isnt much Disney can do about that Its out of their hands|0 The mask will not stop you getting sick in terms of the virus entering youDubious claim Masks intercept direct trajectories of high viral load droplets into your airways Id estimate it reduces the chance of getting infected by around 2030 or so Here are studies of health workers in the 2003 SARS epidemichttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoipdf101111j13653156200902255xhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed19284644|0 Playing to the shareholders|1 I lost all my masks in a boating accident|0 The world is already ending They delayed James Bond movie release by 8 months|0 Yeah but not at 930am pacific time|1 This is the only sub Id recommend someone else using here though|1 Look for the people who are promising to let you work hard for yourself and perhaps keep your own money People promising you other peoples stuff because its not fair that they succeeded and you havent are just pandering|1 Obviously you have the slowest progression if you not only dont test the patients with symptoms unless they go to the ER but also tell them to isolate themselves at home and that no other step is necessary not even informing the authorities of your symptoms which means youre not really tracking the number of cases and the official numbers are a massive understatementIn Italy and China everybody being tested and some other countries like Spain the number of people with the symptoms are being tracked in a self declaration way|1 Good luck finishing One Piece haha|1 Ive heard the same thing so many times now But when I present facts I see them shut off almost in denial or something like if its my time its my time from a mother of one toddler also a senior software engineer if god wants me to die its my time from a barista who then proceeds to cough on me as a joke what doesnt kill me will make me stronger from a lead software engineer in a room full of sick people crammed together All of these attitudes show me both selfishness carelessness and I think its indicating a sense of denial or disbelief that it could ever happen here USA Koreatown Los Angeles or to them And now we have a stewardess who came through on 19th to 20th and ate at multiple places and this was continued to be debunked as a rumor but last night my friend saw CDC shut down and sanitize with a hazmat suit a restaurant called Hangari Kalgooksoo They took a video|1 Happy cake day|1 Thank you for the link to that study Im not sure that many would bother reading it but its exactly articles like this rather than a news site saying there was another confirmed or suspected case from that I look for This is excellent information|1 Theres a higher chance of false negatives|1 Yeah when I visited Venice we went for a gondola ride and the water was brown and murky with about 1 to 2 feet of visibility Just enough to see the turds floating by It was disgusting Beautiful city though|1 Its not just the Boomer generation they are throwing under the bus Its all of our health care workers as well Demand better|1 Sure cruise ships accelerate it But Ive never heard of a massive influenza outbreak on a cruise ship making the news Norovirus outbreaks on a cruise ship sure So it seems to me that the spread on the cruise ship is more akin to the virulence of norovirus than influenza|1 San Diego already has positive cases in quarantine|1 He also raped someone Man deserves less|0 no you wont censorship will continue to increase at some point you will be forced to go cold turkeybest start getting used to the idea|0 This has a higher mortality rate and is also quite contagious So it would take fewer infections to match deaths from influenza|0 sounds like a shitty employer if you wont get paid during mandatory quarantine|0 This Collateral damage due to overload of healthcare system can and will give much bigger death toll than virus itself This is why its critical to overreact and contain it before it spreads|0 There are 3 possible solutions1 Temporarily stop Global air flights and border crossing worldwide Implementing lockdown like China doing right now worst2 Just waiting for the vaccine takes time3 Develop a machine to detect virus on surfaces and airborne bestI think 3 is our best bet but not sure if that is possible in our current technology|1 you cant it was removed for spreading misinformation|0 War Criminals SHOCKED when theyre dronestriked after decades of government oppression|0 Free cures from Jesus I mean|1 Cool time to send all the sick to China when our hospitals are overrun New form of outsourcing|0 No worries Im not sure if youve used R before but the authors also provided their code if you want to take a look and get a greater sense of the mechanics Feel free to PM me any questions about it if you do as I am a longtime R user|1 If you freeze any grain product it will kill any of their larvae I recommend doing this for all rice pasta ect Especially for long term storage|0 Ok so a little contextEl Salvador a tiny Central American country has been like most of Latin America pretty safe from the virus we still have no confirmed cases and no deaths in the region Still Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele has declared a national quarantine implementing all the mesures in the tilte plus forbidding events that gather more than 500 people and if nationals come from abroad they will have to spend a 30day quarantine in an especial quarantine center Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele said Wouldnt Italy wish they could have taken these measures before it was too lateSo what is the logic behind all of thisSo El Salvador is very very vulnerable to the virus it has the highest population density in Latin America 65 million people in a 21000 square km territory and very weak healthcare system that is already crowded with victims of natural illness plus gang violence dengue and others about a third of the country lives in the capital metro area so spreading would be super quick El Salvador has a strong community culture people usually live with their grandparents in their house crowd gathering activities are common and the personal space bubble is very small so an infected person could potentially infect many more people than someone in Europe for exampleTheres also a politics side to this the president Nayib Bukele is very popular has one of the highest approval ratings in the world for a president but due to not having support in congress and being pretty controversial his public image which is tied to the stability decrease in murder rates international investment big investment in tourism he brought to the country after being elected is very important a lot of his policies depends on foreign investment and aid so a strong international image is also tied to the success of his policies so he would rather play it safe get the good press and after the pandemic economically profit from potentially being one of the least damaged countries in the region due to his taking of early measuresIn general im very happy with this decision we dont have the resources to fight this virus and it would wreck havoc in our society|1 I just posted in my Nextdoor app to help get groceries for any elderlyat risk neighbors that need it Its a pretty healthy area so I doubt there will be any older people w major needs but if there are Id love to help them|1 We are living in a time where it is blatantly obvious that the class system is global as far as I am concernedHad these cocksuckers lived alongside Marie Antoinette they would most certainly not be eating cake|0 Think of every small armory across the country in every national guard reserve and active base If everyone has a 1020 it adds up fast I had to take inventory of mine 2 weeks ago and Im sure the rest of the country did the same Our medics use them a lot so theyre good to have on hand|1 The best Perfect men I believe it was God who told me that these men are his proudest accomplishment|1 Not much you can go Triage is a french word In the military treat the ones that can pull trigger the once requiring ICU care hope for the best Eventually the ICU beds will be maxed out and collapse Will be not enough beds for all|1 Ireland now has a confirmed case and our government arent doing a thing about it No checks at airport nothing Our health minister Simon Harris basically said its a waste of resources doing temperature check flights coming every day Our hospitals are terrible over crowded old people on trolleys everywhere We are screwed|0 There is a difference the west largely has freedom of press and speech they can communicate what they want China has none of that There is no way to challenge their account so they can say whatever they want|1 I feel like there is a grand misconception that if we keep the virus out for another month or two we wont be at further risk but I think we will always be at risk if the virus significantly gets out of China and more or less inevitably infect AsiaPeople seem obsessed with the idea that if they can dodge the immediate impact of the first outbreak they will be safe but historically thats not how viral outbreaks workOnce its established in enough people its pretty much inevitable that its going to get into every country just like human influenza laughs at your silly efforts to contain it|1 Crazy that the CDfuckingC cant stay open on the weekend during a goddamn pandemic|0 Haha Better get 2 sticks just in case|1 Well this comment chain says its possible and they link sources including with SARS vaccines httpsoldredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf3qot3chinesedoctorssaywuhancoronavirusreinfectionfhkd5m4|1 No I think he worded it that way because hes basically telling the senate it passes|0 He probably worked a straight 30 hours already|1 Not to be confused with quarantined|1 What are you saying This is the second highest uptick and its just from Hubei In terms of percentages its probably a bit lower but that doesnt even factor in the many cases outside Hubei|0 Thoroughly disappointed to learn that this very dodgy character has been made a minister by Boris Johnson|0 Obligatory The US would never be able to do something like this even if they wanted toI can see something like this happening at the city or state level but I still dont completely know how theyd enforce it Guess well see how Italy handles it|1 Wouldnt it be better to just tell the elderly and weak to self isolate for a month while the life goes on as usual and we let the pandemic go over as quickly as possible thereby preventing mutation and building up herd immunity|0 Tbh I would love that However I will still work but isolate myself from my family It is part of my responsibility at least to me People have to eat I work in a grocery store I could not in good conscience stay home if I were wellIf people were warned of the quarantine and had food stocked up then heck yeah as long as it is after next Friday so I have the new animal crossing|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thats what Im hearing regarding broad testing in the USBy end of the month Maybe laterIn mean time because my so seems to have the symptoms and is being treated for pneumonia lungs clean on xrayHes being told to return to work MondayFor all I know Im an asymptomatic carrier and spreader|1 On reddit no one knows youre a pangolin|0 youve let a fanatic almost religious devotion to a political ideal figure or party erase your humanityThats exactly whats being used to justify 68000 dying yearly The group being vilified and targeted is the working class and the poor|1 Now its in our corner Bassmason Blaming someone else is the easy part Now doing something about it ourselves is another story Panicking solves nothing|0 Our government took swift action on behalf of themselves We have to be smart coming time for both Congress and the White House|1 Well businesses are about to get fucked Literally everyone is going to stay home lol|0 Diametrically opposed to the deniers who say iTs jUSt tHe FlU gUYs|0 People really need to stop worshiping Elon Musk like some kind of God|1 I mean i would contribute too but i have a super low end laptop with a 216ghz 4 core 4 thread pentium so it would not contribute anything Plus my hard drive is dead|0 uCoriffI mean there are on the spot things you can do to make yourself aware of yourself and your body when the anxiety attacks come on Such asBreathe as deeply and as quickly as you can for one minuteShake your head from side to side for 30 secondsRun up and down on the spot as fast as you can for one minuteHold your breath for 30 secondsStand up and turn around in circles as quickly as you can for 30 seconds to make yourself dizzyBreathe through a thin straw for one minute while holding your noseTheres also mindfulness and slow breathingIts good to do exercise immerse yourself in something lighthearted like a comedy for her to realise that shes not alone in what shes experiencing and that she can overcome it|1 thats cuz you havent heard another part of the story about who we arecheck the reddits I moderate if you are interested One may stand out|1 Thank you both This is scary and Im having really weird emotions about being tested|0 This does NOT mean they are infectious for 37 days FYI|1 My friends say the same things Dont be worried youre not gonna die or not that many people are gonna die its not that seriousUmmm thats not my worry at all Firstly a lot of people may die The only way to prevent them from dying will be massive lockdowns cancelled events and quarantines Thats gonna fuck up society for a bit Like Im not panicking but the amount of people that think this will just pass absent of any serious intervention is absurd|1 Not funny|0 Gloomy For what its worth I wish you a long and very happy marriage|1 It can be up to 15 days Reports say average is 37 There should be more secondhand infections if this is half as bad on everyone on this sub claims|0 He said jail not prison Prison is totally different than jail Jail is when your awaiting sentencing or trial or have less than 2 years Prison is for people sentenced Being in jail is a nightmare compared to prison and this does happen in jail |1 This I am disgusted about the amount of menpigs leaving the loo without even looking at the tap Let alone using some soapEdit typo|0 You cant in the beginning Which is why the 6 weeks number is BS Also what source says the test kit isnt accurate I have a very hard time believing it is any less sensitiveaccurate than other viral detection tests|0 Thanks for the links Does Tamponi stand for the total number of tests administered|1 Is possible can you provide a better lecture There is a lot if info missing in the picture|1 Now you see the advantages of having trading agreements with China Without it wed be getting Spanish flu|1 No just one hospital in Washington State lolEurope has 10 to 20 times more virus cases than the US on a per capita basis whats going on over there|0 CDC is not the only entity doing testing Private organizations are doing a ton of testing Those numbers are scary so they dont get reported|0 Arent prices on ships like crazy inflated anyway Also good luck be safe|1 Np D |1 Yeah they went to a local hospital sat around for six hours got told they dont have tests tested them for the flu negative and dismissed They didnt get tested until later Imagine how many people they infected at the hospital where there were no procedures for this|0 I dont get statements like thisAll you need to look at are actions taken by the Chinese government They locked up to 60m people for an unknown amount of time They crash their gdp with this single action alone Unless you think China is playing some kind of social experiment risking the dislike of hundreds million of people and willingly crashing their economy you come to the conclusion this shit is seriousThis Is ItAll you need to know One action one explanation|0 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 this is not necessarily true its kinda unrealistic to expect the country to be able to handle a total shutdown of more than a few weeks before more people start dying due to lack of foodwatershelteretc than from the virus Yes shutting down is good but if you do it too early then you end up in a situation where youre forced to reopen the country before the virus is controlled and then it ends up blowing up far worse than if you had done the shutdown slightly later i think thats what is actually happening theyre waiting to issue a shutdown until we get near the peak of the virus in our country|0 And please stay out of Greenland|1 I dont think you understand what Im saying What happens if it gets extended a year no one is working and suddenly they owe 1012kIts not like its absolving rent fees Basically as soon as the quarantine ends people are going to get dumped on the street unless we pass some kind of intensive rent absolution now|0 I had to convince my Dad to call me in sick today because they still havent closed schools|0 They knew in December The most advanced nation in the world shouldve known before the CCP|1 Would this site be helpful Built it to track cases httpscovid19trackcomhttpscovid19trackcom|1 Any chance you could delete the link too|1 Temperatures in northern hemisphere will rise just as temperatures in southern hemisphere fall Australia has a robust health system However Africa doesnt Im not sure about the various countries in South America|1 Being brave is only option Chinese citizens have now Respect for this lady Hope she will be safe And all Chinese citizen start a revolution or something|1 Not once a disaster has been declared Thats part of it Do you really think people should be able to charge 100gallon for gas when folks have been ordered to leave town during a hurricane evacuation|1 Fineeeee but I want money too |1 There are more symptoms to Covid19 than the ones you just described Cough and a fever also tend to show up Could it be your anxiety causing the chest painbreathing Being alert isnt a bad thing but getting anxious to the point that you might have trouble breathing is not great eitherThings to consider before getting too worried is whether you live in an effected area or have been in contact with any known confirmed cases If the answer to both of those things is no then your chances are good If youre still concerned you can probably self quarantine and contact your GP or doctor for advice and explain your concerns If your doctor thinks you should be tested heshe will probably let you know the procedure behind this Suspected cases are asked to self quarantine where I live but YMMV on this as I dont know what country youre in Keep an eye on things for sure though even without Covid19 shortness of breath and chest pain are things you need to take note of|0 micron level a bandana aint gonna filter those tiny particlesbut it is better than nothing|1 Beyond working in it my dad had a fib and had to be on blood thinners for a few months before he could have his heart reset with the dfib paddles Insurance wouldnt pay for the best definitely he had to wear that would literally save his life if his heart stopped because they didnt try heart surgery first Honestly what the fuck Isnt preventative care cheaper than heart surgeryIm sorry the experience happened to you its hard to navigate even knowing the system we most recently had to fight insurance for my sons nicu stay as well as an ekg I had and it just shouldnt be that wayHope youre doing better now|1 I honestly think they should charge more The charges should be that of an accidental manslaughter|1 thousands you value your life in thousands millionsyou can pay it off as indentured servant|1 Wow A fucking bat virus is going to be the downfall of humanity|1 Does XI look like whinnie the poo|1 Trying to extrapolate a exponential curve infections with too few data points makes the curve very inaccurate Its mathThats not whats being done though You should read the paperThe more data point we get the more precise estimations will becomeYes but there are some fundamental aspects of the virus behavior which allow us to be more precise than say inferring three points on a blank chalk board|1 Florida man dont give two shits|1 Oh Never knew lol|0 My friend went to the store with a mask today white lady only her and two asian women in the store had masks on Everyone else were giving them looks and eyerolls I think they were the only smart ones in the store frankly Lol|1 Lol if were in lockdown for 8 weeks baby making will be the last thing on my mind|1 Im assuming the only place your parents will have a problem getting significant meds would be in Fiji and even then just outside of the major cities They should be perfectly fine|1 How is this guy still alive|1 Damn people are drowning with this virus|0 Uhmmm grocery stores are now jam packed shoulder to shoulder They need to figure that out Now they avoid those places and funnel into grocery stores|0 China will report this number of JanFeb later the final mortality rate will up|1 Feel the same way How insecure are people that they feel the need to toughtalk a virusThe catch22 is that the more effective preventative measures and changing habits are the more it will seem like this was no big dealBasically the conscientious segment of society however big that is is trying their best to allow the herds of dumbasses to puff up about how little they were worried|1 The underlying study httpssciencesciencemagorgcontentearly20200313scienceabb3221 took the Chinese numbers and simulated the spread To that end they had to put in a lot of estimates and guesswork They documented it all but simulations can be tricky to get right Before this has been carefully reviewed I would be careful with the 83 number Not saying the approach is not valid considering the dearth of hard numbersEventually well know the truth from testing for antibodies of people who never had symptoms but that will take time|1 You live in about the only jurisdiction in the world thats like that thenI can count the number of over40 people Ive seen out on one hand over the last week Millenials and Zoomers in clusters laughing about everyone else Stop being a teacup and own up Young people are royally screwing up Theyre not the only ones by far but they are wildly completely screwing this thing up right now|1 My pleasure and thank you that means a lot|1 This is an idiot on twitter Just look at the 3rd tweet down in the linkx200B They only update their website on Monday Wednesday and Friday At 4pm Its stated A moron takes a screenshot on Sunday another on Monday morning and doesnt bother to actually double check anythingx200BBut I bet he got a whole lot of views|0 Oh well the show was on a downward spiral since Season 1 anyways|1 What I dont understand is that if they dont work why do medical staff need them If they dont work on healthy people why do they work on sick people Something just doesnt add up here|0 How can I bold this make the text ten feet tall with flames and upvote it about a thousand times Does reddit have a button for thatEven Satan is worried what Rupert Murdoch might do in hell when he finally dies|0 It was but soon it will be their fault somehow|0 There is nothing to figure out Outta work man Just gonna go to jail in the public dime Plus she aint my ex Just some random one night stand Gotta figure Im better dead than alive Thank god I got a gun amirite |1 Uk wont help self employed peopleWe have a ssp payment of 9424 a weekYou still have to find mortgagecouncil tax and everything elseRoughly about 350 a weekSooooooo you are 260 before you start |0 Fair enough thank you|1 The venue itself should have cancelled the event They are just as much to blame|0 All the reports saying so and so may have tested positive took a picture with trump 3 days ago Brazilian secretary met with president in mar a lago do you think they would even let the public know if trump tested positive for covid19 I highly doubt it|1 Im ready for an invasion of emuriding taliban|1 Yes and I didnt even question it Why the fuck did I just accept theres spongebob in the picture|1 Me too on all counts He is doing this leadership thing right now so well that the other stuff doesnt matter I mean leadership is when you dont like someone but still trust believe and invest effort into following them Its easy to be a popular guy and lead but DeWine is showing he can do what Trump cannot That is transcend partisanship in the face of a crisisI am very nearly proud of him even just because its a significant thing to just fundamentally be good at this|1 They need to do it now before it gets bad here Its ridiculously inane to make everyone wait until its too late|0 Understood and I dont disagree dme2126httpswwwredditcomuserdme2126 is the one acting in bad faith here not you My apologies if that was not clear|0 The Chinese governments really failed WuhanHubei and people there this timeThe entire country sometimes treats people from Hubei like rats but is this their fucking fault that the governments did fucking nothing when the first case happened in early December That they went on TV and said Our supplies are sufficient That the Premier put on a show in Hubei and asked people Have you encounter difficulties and those cunts cheerfully said nooooo The entire China was freaking out because apparently people were getting out of Wuhan before the lockdown but if Im in Wuhan I would 100 get the fuck out We as a people say it all the time Trust the government trust the government well the government isnt fucking there when so so many families are being torn apart|0 Dude even if what you are saying is remotely true the economic impact of this shit is going to hit everyone hard Theres no escaping that and we all have to accept adapt and move on|0 The NCIRD is a part of the CDC actually according to their org charthttpswwwcdcgovaboutorganizationorgcharthtm The NCIRD page on the CDC website httpswwwcdcgovncirdindexhtmlHere is her bio also on the CDC websitehttpswwwcdcgovaboutleadershipleadersncirdhtmlNot sure I can put much trust in a picture on Twitter The content sounds a little bit too tailored to feed conspiracy theories But I will file it away and see if trustworthy corroborating evidence appears|1 Cough back on them and tell them you have coronavirus and were only trying to protect them|1 Of course its a troll people who scaremonger should be banned|0 Someone should tell him its just the flu bro|0 He is nearly in all the moviesKnew he was going to miss apart in this|0 It seems like the contact form is down Ive already informed him For those who are trying to contact him do leave a commentDM me Ill leave a comment once its up|0 They could even say a secret set of laws is on the book no one can see for just this purpose And that puts all three branches UNDER the presidenthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiNationalSecurityandHomelandSecurityPresidentialDirectivehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiNationalSecurityandHomelandSecurityPresidentialDirective|0 We very well me ba at 10 million cases worldwide we just cant test everyone who may not be showing symptoms|1 Americans praising CPP for caring about their people is the most hilarious thing ive seen for a while Tho I understand the GFW and the language barrier are to blame here|1 After a 5 day period of deceleration weve got acceleration in international cases and in localized outbreaks Its clear that was going to happen after seeing all of the spreading news yesterday Deaths are decelerating for yet another day but they lag infections by at least 2 weeks|0 This seems like a good headline to replace from to with|1 Im 40 My wife wont let me on tinder I havent bar hopped in decades and I cant remember the last time I went to a house party I did literally just sneeze while typing this so maybe I dont know what Im talking about|1 Because the UK government gave the job to a corporate yes man named Patrick Vallance|1 Yes of course Sure there are some idiotic selfish people hoarding but even if each person bought 1 only of something you would still run out There isnt enough of anything in stores for everyone in the world to buy it at the exact same time So people automatically think people are hoarding if its sold out No literally just demand exceeds supply|0 When we see critically ill patients outside of China we truly understand that this is worse than flu|0 Just call 911 Even if you cant speak because your throat is falling out of your face theyll track your location Theyll arrive with an ambulance and take you to the hospital Then theyll charge you 2000 for the ambulance ride and subsequent care And if you havent met your 3000 deductible whelp good luck with that billNever mind the cost of the follow up care lost time from work prescriptions and followon drs visits But thats ok the system is fine Everything is fines|1 Like right out of a horror movie|0 ItS JuSt ThE FlU bRuH|0 You can go to work the grocery store and the pharmacydoctor You can walk your dog You can even buy cigarettes You just have to respect a few rules and be ready to justify yourself to the cops If you need assistance in your everyday life for medical reasons you can still receive it Horror stories of doctors having to decide who lives and who dies because of a lack of equipment have been making the rounds of social media for days and the government and the media are making no mystery of how dire the situation is This is the biggest restriction of basic civil rights in Italy since WWII and were all going along with it because nobody wants people to die unnecessarily If you know all this and if you live in Italy you know our country is pretty densely populated nobody is that isolated from civilization and STILL chose to go wander round hell yeah you should go to jail|0 People can take their judgement and shove it up their arse All the classroom will be attempting to do is create a sense of normality amidst the shitstorm learning will be minimal|1 Along with a generous scratch of the genitals|1 You absolutely cannot take traditional Chinese herbal medicine together with Western medications because many of the ingredients have similar sources or contraindication effects This is a standard warning given by doctors in Asia every time you go to a clinic or hospital|0 The CDC may be understaffed and underfunded but to suggest that theyd intentionally sabotage the fight against the virus is a super crappy thing to do as well|0 Right if they really wanted to do it new deal style they would have to freeze all debt and utilities payments until after the outbreak and then give people discretionary income and jobs in order to stimulate growth Giving people 1000k right now would just end up going to the pockets of the power companies or grocery stores|1 Lets hope they arent fast at popping the blue bubbles|1 In spite of illiteracy India has a huge smartphonephone penetration even among the illiterate and access to information is available|0 They cannot accept that life might change The thought that anything could effect their day to day makes them uncomfortable so they just ignore it In the next few weeks the reality is going to challenge their mental health to the limit You and I have that advantage at least We are mentally able to accept that our lives may change dramatically over the coming weeks Any serious prepper will tel you that mental preparedness can make the difference between life and death|0 Hi WadeIf you do get something like that running count me in|1 Cool China wins in return on investment since its free to be a doctor in China and most Americans cant afford to be one even if they want to|1 Yes Thats what I took from the WHO announcement Its so politicans and people wont give up containment No one knows what the virus can do better be on the safe side|1 Thank Obama He fucked up the system on purpose Doubt it Look up rates for 2008 He fucked the country and the believers didnt bother to educate themselves on reality|0 How many times have you been told its okay to test Is that still being tightly restricted Is it unusual to have to request permission from an outside agency to test a patient|0 This H Res from OP is not Romneys proposal HRes 897 is to provide an Emergency UBI for every American 1000mo nontaxable for everyone over age 18 during the state of emergencyThe resolution httpswwwcongressgovbill116thcongresshouseresolution897text|0 Your argument makes no sense Your idea of fighting the patriarchy is cultural acceptance of mocking women and women only with no reference whatsoever to equivalent behavior in menNo either I wasnt clear or you missed my point Karen is a meme talking about ignorant women who loudly outspoken and demand subservience The patriarchy is men who are ignorant and loudly outspoken and demand subservience There is no meme about men being Karens but a white dude these days is implicitly starting from the grounds of prove im not one of those white men in a similar way that a mom with a bob haircut starts from im not one of those womenSo in a lot of ways we are in the same boat|0 Ive been saying this since January if you check my commentsGovernments tried to wish it away rather than do something and now were here|1 Visa overstays are so common I wouldnt worry about it Especially knowing the situation3 year ban from the country if you overstay 6 months 10 year ban if you overstay a year|0 Its not socialism if its for emergency measures only if it ooops sorta continues for a while welll maybe thats not all bad The Dept of Labor has figures for how valuable homemakers labour is Either make corporations pay a wage that both people can live on when one works so whoever stays home can be rightly compensated for their labors or maybe were just gonna stop having robots err children to man the industrial chains|1 No|0 People are fucking morons|0 Dude Trump fired the head of simulation development|0 In my case I am too poor for the ACA subsidies so Im supposed to get on medicaid But in my state I dont qualify for Medicaid So I have to pay for any healthcare out of pocket which I just cant afford|0 Intent of the comment was to reference the doctor i mentioned previously Like I said youre crazy and looking to argue over nothing A stupid person trying to sound smart|1 Good luckif you have a runny nose youre probably ok surprised they didnt go for a flu swab firstEdit glad people are starting to get tested we got a million unique views on this sub this should have happened sooner|1 You know Im not sure Iowa doesnt have many confirmed cases|0 But thank Jesus theres still a bag of American Beauty elbow macaroni left|1 Since that number was mentioned the common opinion on rcoronavirus became the incubation period is 24 days|1 Buzzfeed is a legitimate news source that employs real journalists The gossip rag articles are simply an additional source of their income|0 Its just a hypothesis One worth keeping in mind Of course we dont know if its true or not before more data comes in|1 I believe he sent a whole cargo plane to Italy a few days ago as well|1 Seems strange meningitis its something really bad|0 Place some blame on congress as well The budget is not an executive order|0 Right Our government is bad at handling any situation it seems like|0 Best of luck to you I feel for you and stay strong Its just getting started isnt it Whew|1 We are doing a MUCH WORSE JOB THAN CHINA But our citizens are always ready to forgive and forget for some reason|0 Thank you so much for taking the time to answer Appreciate it also thank you in general for all you and your colleagues do for us as a country|1 Whoops indeed I mixed up two threads Sorry|0 Does it seem like the medical system has any clue what its actually doing or does all the contact seem chaoticHave you considered speaking to a media outlet or were you told not to|1 Dont waste your time anymore Prepare your family pullup cash for natural need in an emergency stack up medicine for a few months if you have a prescription need and buy and make your one hand sanitizer and stay in at home unless necessary Thats all Our government is gone in denial and lying as expected and incapable God is going to need to bless America or millions will die at least millions of older adults are exposed and at risk We have no support no mask no nothing all they talk is the money not the health terminal war look at the rate of death in Italy 5 percent now I believe the virus is mutating and getting underrated stronger because the cowards in Washington and America culture is fueling the pandemic now Good luck all|0 Spec is freely available on WHOs and HKUs websites|1 Great summary Id add the death of several prominent political leaders will likely shake things up too|1 We gonna need a 10t relief package for starts|1 ah hell i use to mega dose vitamin c even when i wasnt sick shit is damn good for you to fend shit off|1 I also had this coughfrom Jan 15thish to Feb 20th But I had it last year too like march to april|1 You can still be saved brother rhydrohomies|1 Free real estate in yall heads Ignore all the companies making tests if it doesnt fit your narrative|0 You may be right but that was not my intention To some extent it is what it is right I dont think anyone prefers to get infected or wants to go through it regardless if you survive We dont know a lot and cannot trust the media and gov statistics being provided worldwide people may recover and go back to normal but Im sure some people will be fkd for life after this constant respiratory issues and other reocurring problems whether its health or finance related Life spans will be affected whether its short or long term effects The 3070 split I mentioned has been discussed a lot online but it is also by no means based on any accurate or specific data Just to be transparent and clear Not sure you can trust any of the data coming out in America and elsewhere|0 I legit dont even know why numbers like this are even reported Theyre essentially meaninglessIts like me saying Local man drives down street sees three cars More than two cars have now been seen in city And then people being relieved because there arent more despite there being 30k Theres essentially NO testing I dont know anyone whos been tested The CDC has been lying for weeks I dont know anyone who knows how to get tested unless theyve licked a handrail in Wuhan and have photographic evidenceSame thing with the recovered cases Maybe Id believe it more in a place like South Korea or somewhere that had done a lot more general testing|1 Google War is a racket Be enlightened |0 confirmed cases is a worthless metric at this pointThe number I want to know is how many have been advised to selfquarantine|0 You should be one of the first tested Most people can survive this illness and mybe you can too but youre still at higher risk|0 Thank you Good luck And health for you and yours|1 The Feds are all fuck upsWe are on our own|0 Sounds like your engineering program needs to optimize their process to reduce fluctuations in quality|1 Oh I thought he was living in the states these days If hes not then my mistake The NHS are indeed testing people theyve had drive thru testing in London|1 Notice this test doesnt have an issue with false positives though This narrative of false negatives is ridiculous If you cant catch some cases dont try at all|1 WHO is Chinas bitch|0 Misery loves company Chinas posture even as they were locking down Wuhan was Were fine dont be a bully and restrict travel They probably wouldnt survive being the only country to get hit so in a twisted way they had to infect the rest of the world to stay on even footing|1 Yeah I have a bunch of yeast flour and sugar I can make my own And cookies always have emergency cookies|0 Yep I have turned down work in London too Not worth the risk|1 Considering his actions probably kill some people he deserves all the years he has left in prison|0 wEll MaSKs doNT WoRk sO|1 Well Im an American citizen and Microsoft under Gates leadership lost a massive lawsuit which declared them as having breaking the law to illegal exploit money from the American peoplehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiUnitedStatesvMicrosoftCorpFucking man you idiots arent even trying|0 If they were hiding the story they wouldnt allow nonmonetised videos either|0 Yes Id generally agree with that Scientists spend most of their time testing hypotheses about how things seem to work How pathogens and immune systems work is still very poorly understood although we have learned so much Things are very complicated so you can know a lot and a little at the same timeBut for something as new as this coronavirus there are not many facts in my opinion|1 I guess Im lucky because it is normal to wear a N95 mask or Respirator at work because I work at a Chemical Plant |1 People should understand with the news of the two strains testing more and more people will help snuff out the more lethal strain If that is done the fatality rate will stay low|0 Its really hard to tell This is extremely difficult One thing I know for a fact anyone who told you NOT to stock up is a total moron I usually keep good rations I stocked up good a couple weeks ago I can survive without leaving my house for 4 months easy|1 But thats still more than a rumor which is clearly what I said I was responding to|1 Zinc actually has documented effects and stopping viral replication in your throat You will be better with zinc lozenges|1 How often do they deep clean the tube This is what surprises me have not seen any information on this and I think Khan should have been all this but he has been surprisingly quiet|1 And so far it has slowed the disease and death If it works in China maybe we should try it to and ignore some piece of paper we signed when this wasnt a thing|0 Its going to be very rough if too many cases happen in the developed world at once and its going to destroy the developing world|0 Its just censorship Its everywhere It always has been Its only in times like this that we notice it but were being given a particular message all the time Censorship has been ongoing in the West for many decades|1 To be exact Like you can find on the website of rivm They only test people that have symptoms and travelled to one of the destination with a high risk or had contact with a confirmed case So if you only show symptoms but didnt travel or you did travel but no symptoms you dont get a test Besides that they state that the virus not likely spreads before showing symptoms so no need to quarentine people Only the ones with symptoms and travel history need to quarentaine|0 Guess who has one of the most successful armies in history Thats right France|1 Low chance of Coronavirus then most symptomatic coronavirus cases have some pneumonia detectable Good chance it is just a common cold w bronchitis or similar|1 Just dont mistake authority with experts random redditors are more likely to be telling the truth than the ccp who have a vested interest and an unending history of lying|1 Right ARDS Damn|0 Even if they didnt call a pandemic they should have stressed to world leaders that this is a serious threat They made it sound like no big deal Just wash your hands Window of opportunity would have been telling governments in secret or whatever to get their shit together because this is going to be a wild ride|0 now this is some really good news here in my country dudes of just over 50s are dying|1 In a communist government he may have had a gun pointed at his head off camera He may have wanted to prevent panic and chaos|0 I just printed up a bunch of relevant material as well and I am handing it out to anyone that will listenI think this is the beginning of the end|1 And since the west coast is quickly developing into a situation comparible with Wuhan they should be proactive Washington state is planning to allow spread They will make no attempt to slow the disease until the hospitals are over capacity Oregon isnt testing|1 Dont forget in some regions its pollen season hopefully thats where my dry cough came from|1 Lol just a day ago the most liked comments here were I just walked through the airport no testing at all|1 Now tis some GREAT news|1 Yes they are shorting the public But it buys the bigger investors time to restructure their investments or buy gold in case this does get bad here and the economy really does tank|0 Stay strong sending you my best wishes from Sweden|1 I have no idea how some doctor in Washington knew to use itIt was first used in MERS Not a revolutionary idea to try it on covid19|0 Yet the antibodies in blood plasma tranfusions seem to be effective against the virus|1 FWIW yesterday my wife and I joked that perhaps we should book a plane to Wuhan seeing how Italylevel disruptions were 34 weeks ahead of us This sudden decision by our government reassures me that theres a chance we can flatten the healthcare utilization curve a bit more over here|1 This is good news People are waking up and so is government|1 And here in Canada Theres NO public testing Its only if you think you may have it Call your family doctor and theyll refer you to servicesBut if youre Fine then no test for youthat is so dumb in my opinion you need to test everyone for this they dont KNOW if theyre infected|0 You replied to someone who was concerned FOR the homeless and you managed to demonise them and make it all about youIts pretty selfcentred and dehumanising to call people biological weapons or to assume that every homeless person is riddled with diseases and that theyre out to get you|1 No shit|0 Community spread probably started around at the same time Korea just had a massive cluster found and most of their cases are coming from that or secondary infections thereof Considering that community spread is arguably worse in the US right now|0 Yeah its a stupid low effort content that took 3 minutes in paint and has no research to back it up|0 so now were blaming WHO for canadas lack of taking anythign seriously instead of the govt who literally said theres absolutely nothing to worry about when the entire world said get ready for no lubegotcha|0 That sucks I just noticed mine is marked as indirect signature required so that most be the difference|0 And Frieden was against a West African travel ban during Ebolahttpsblogscdcgovglobal20141013cdcdirectorwhyidontsupportatravelbantocombatebolaoutbreakA healthy dose of skepticism has always been warranted for these agencies|0 We need to arrest who fumbled the testing|0 I havent heard a reference to Big Fat Liar in years god I need to rewatch it|0 They already have to make these decisions for things like train accidents etc Theyre used to it its what theyre paid to do|1 Cargo ships have people many of them will be infected|0 My Parents in New Jersey were shocked to hear what the current death toll was this morning Theyre the type of people who either have on local news or fox newssigh on during breakfast lunch anytime someone is working in the common area and they had no fucking idea They have been having a little bit of a hard time grappling that the president is saying one thing and being presented with local articles and leaked memos from evergreen My dad is a heart patient with 4 stents and they more informed than most in their area because of me being out here Scary shit|0 User name DOES NOT check out You arent panicking and I felt deceived|0 It was just a joke about how all these people with COVID19 seem to want to travel and to frequent crowded placesevents|1 Its been amazing how much like a novel this Novel Coronavirus plague is proceeding It comes from China who reacts exactly as you would expect A major plot point is a cruise ship known as the Diamond Princess The Pope is sick but they arent saying if its the plague The US President is a former reality TV star which contributes to a tragically bad handling of matters at least in the early goingCan I be the plucky comic relief They either survive or die some wonderfully heroic manner|1 it looks like overreacting because there are two weeks of silent infections So tired of hearing Im not going to let some virus hoax change MY behavior|0 No You dont have 330 million people with guns Seriously even the babiesThanks for the laugh anyway Around 39 of households have a gun in the US Per person thats maybe 1520 of the adult population And most of them are smart enough not to point their gun at a cop or the militaryYou know the cognitive dissonance between the buh muh guns crowd talking about how they can stand up to the government and the reality of you get shot dead instantly when you wave a gunlikeobject at a cop is always hilarious to meIts outright delusional Well heres what When the quarantines come and they will come Trust me Wave your gun then brave soldier Lets see what happens|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The fact that most carriers dont get symptoms is the worst part They have the potential to continue spreading it unknowingly Even if the mortality rate is far lower than Ebola and MERS it has the potential to spread to exponentially 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resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 How exactly do these numbers not default to the US totals This was a cruise that traveled exclusively between US cities Do international waters just not count for anything How the fuck does he think this works|0 Its a really mild shutdown though In fact unless they will surprise everyone in the methods it changes not so much from what is was meant now nobody cared so they will do some fines I guess|1 Yeah because everyone wants to rush out to Nordstroms right now|1 In my best Leslie Chow impression But did you die|1 Wish I could stay home here in Ohio but need some food and other supplies and last but not least I need to get some food and treats for the cats they will kill me if I dont get their stuff ASAP|0 Anyone who signs up for this needs to have their heads examined pretrial to make sure that they arent bugchasers|1 Its important to prepare but at some point theres diminishing returns on consuming news and social media on the subject Be honestIs reading up on this more than 1 hour per day maybe 30 min morning 30 min evening REALLY arming you with additional knowledge Likely not Its more likely that youre anxious about it your default response to anxiety in many life situations is to over analyze ruminate which isnt healthy|0 Yep people are not taking it seriously and its going to be a shit storm|0 Much of the US healthcare system runs near capacity in the depth of the flu season In Ireland its worth noting that every hospital has prepared by designating a section of hospital for containment China for instance designated entire hospitals in metropolitan areas In Italy they are starting to reach capacity now in their response they are using other facilities and talking about bringing back retired doctors to help which is tough because theyre much more sensitive to the virus In Wuhan China they obviously built new hospitals too They are actively building 19 new hospitals and have brought in 7 passenger ships to help house medical staff to help At least your hospital system is starting to work through this|1 Youre an idiot|0 Well judging by traffic in the morning a lot of people in Houston are staying home|1 I think theyre saying theyre worried its not clearing upThats largely due to the reporting requirements iirc youre only getting discharged if you have multiple negative tests in a row with a certain length of time between them|0 5 of people who are diagnosed with Covid require artificial respiration Another 15 need to breathe in highly concentrated oxygen and not just for a few days The duration from the beginning of the disease until recovery is 3 to 6 weeks on average for these severe and critical patients compared to only 2 weeks for the mildly illWe cant do much about the ventilators nobody can manufacture enough of them that fast but has anyone confirmed that we have enough oxygen if say 35 of the population gets infected The authorities should take note of this|0 Yes and they still are looking for 30 people that sat closest to him on the flight also this part is what they said mondayThe man said during airport screening that hed been in the province where the virus originated and had a mild cough but was allowed to go on his way Dr Theresa Tam head of the Public Health Agency of Canada said MondayThe man now in hospital in Toronto was interviewed by a Canada Border Services Agency officer after he got off a flight from Guangzhou China at Torontos Pearson airport said Tam He had indicated on an electronic questionnaire that he had been in Wuhan she saidThe traveller was allowed to leave freely equipped with a form that explained what he ought to do should his symptoms get worse Tam said His family called 911 the next day and he was taken to hospital when he did feel worseThis is what they said Sunday When asked at a press briefing Sunday if the man reported symptoms to borderservice agents at the Toronto airport Tam responded This patient was not reported to us noAfter he became more ill when he needed medical support in fact he followed all the information provided at the airport federal health minister Patty Hajdu said Sunday For me that is a sign that the information at the border did actually percolate through to the patient and his familyhttpsnationalpostcomnewscanadacanadiancoronaviruspatientshowedsymptomsonflightbacktowuhanofficialssayhttpsnationalpostcomnewscanadacanadiancoronaviruspatientshowedsymptomsonflightbacktowuhanofficialssay|0 Well there come the dares|1 The way Ive always understood it heat and humidity make for a better environment for viruses to survive and proliferate However despite viruses being stronger during the hot months of the year where they really thrive is indoors in heated humid closed not ventilated spaces A scenario typical but not exclusive of the winter season|0 No testing no problem Plausible deniability He doesnt have to shoot someone on 5th Avenue|0 Try to get reliable case reporting from state and local health departments its a fucking shit show in the US I kid you not some of the case reporting is only on youtube fucking youtube not a transcript a fucking video Others are in press releases and the press releases cover most but not all cases|0 One of my friends was due like March 15th A few months ago she moved back to her hometown Rome Im kinda worried now|1 Arent they using a Triage type approach Essentially examining the elderly and deciding whether or not to admit them to ICU I assume younger patients would get preferential treatment meaning the mean age would always be higher I just wonder how many between 2040 need medical intervention|0 Two things1 Largely because of normalcy bias People dont believe something highly unusual will happen if it has never happened to them before2 There is so much distrust of facts that are not inline with my belief in the USA I have friends and family on both sides of the political spectrum and talking to someone from one group or the other you might think they live on different planets My father for example was telling me just yesterday that the state department works for the liberal fake news media after I told him about the cruise ship warning Politics have rotted the brains of 90 of Americans|0 I work at a car dealership and they refuse to close What should I do|0 Problem is this virus seems to be most infectious when symptoms are still mild anyway|0 Az North PeoriaPhoenix No TP in the stores Have been to Sams Club and Sprouts lots of food available select items out of stock Ground beef most chicken Parking lots for restaurant and movies theatre were full We ate out but sat on patio Aside from the stores being a bit over whelmed people are going on normally Neighbors in total denial I dont believe in this stuff me eye roll My family has made an effort to have enough food for a quarantine variety of staples in the pantry Really trying to be smart and not reactive by planning well but not hoarding We decided to forgo our religious services I am still going to work wife telecommutes Waiting for the other shoe to drop|1 So business as usual Just make sure to shut in Nan or anyone younger with comorbidity or compromised immune system etcHerd immunity does not seem to address the risk that the healthcare system gets totally paralyzedNo matter what there will be disruptions It also seems that more chaos will result from the herd immunity strategy than otherwiseYes there will need to be fiscal stimulus Yes some thought will have to go into making sure everyone has access to basic itemsS Korea has been a model of an effective containment strategy They have not had to implement mass quarantineAt the same time it may already be too late to do anything other than mitigateEdit fiscal stimulus was not best choice of words Maybe government assistance would be better Bills that protect people say from layoffs bills that help people|1 Lmao what world are you living in Its so amazing seeing people on Reddit say shit like this The dollar will need to collapse for Trump to have any chance at losing|1 Trump didnt wear any mask in India if the Universe and karma are real in 14 or so days could we be so lucky|1 If anything this should enrage people around the world against bureaucracy|0 So I need a supercomputer Got it Awesome work though|1 This is a direct response to St Patricks Day Hoboken residents LOVES their St Patricks Day Leprecon Get it LeprechaunLeprecon Its a pretty legendary annual local shitshow Im not super local to there but close enough to see all the news reports from the next day|1 Stupid is as stupid does|0 Their chinese migrant population is largely from zhejiang which was the second worst infected Chinese province So that turbo boosted the risk for Italy One belt one road one virus |0 Im sorry a north korean embassy is not a flex and anytime we need to get someone out of nk we just send in Dennis Rodman|0 And digital hugs to you stay safe|1 What logic is this It helps only medical professionals but not the average citizen I do understand that the hospitals need them more but backwards logic is not helpful|0 stage 25 inform the rich so they can bug outBezos arrives in New Zealand 23 FEB 20httpshalturnerradioshowcomindexphpennewspageworldurgentelitesbuggingoutbezosarrivesinnewzealand|1 Yes because that worked so well for the Diamond Princess How can he like the numbers being where they are if he doesnt actually know the real numbers The epitome of incompetence|1 The number of cases is droppingIf you were correct this would have been a bigger problem beforeSo it does not explain the current leveling of|0 Not lost resigned With cases jumping all over the world I am resigned to the fact that some assclown who just had to travel will bring the virus to my area As the CDC said not a question of if question of when I am prepped as I am going to be just waiting at this point|1 Holy fuck They should really have a National Geographic on that|0 And lack of shut downs Im at work right now and these dumbasses ordered pizza for everyone Im not touching that Not to mention so many fucking people are not taking this seriously at all theyre still calling everything an overreaction|0 Think about what you just wrote I get your worked up but this is how you end up with a state who kills millions for the greater good|1 Lol itll be the monster tour People will drive their kids from tombstone to tombstone and tell them scary stories about the evil turtle and the psychotic orange clown|0 If one is not in favor of government financial assistance during a crisis true capitalism libertarian he just goes out of businessThe right answer is to send all of these people home and provide them with financial assistance until the crisis is overAnything else is simply the wrong answer|0 Old people also remember what life used to be like Unfortunately our liberties throughout the world are getting squeezed and squeezed my quality of life has gone down in the last 10 years Has yours|1 When you cant argue the facts argue the source Clearly your fingers work head to your favorite search engine and look for the Gates Foundations solution for AIDS in Africa I have faith Catholic actually that you can do it without my help|1 Hey no problem shits getting freaky out there Stay safe|0 Disgusting|0 The rest of america has to show severe symptoms before they can even get tested and yet if youre a sports person or a trumpette you can get tested if you think youve been in contact with someone Celebrity and wealth are the only things that matter in this country|1 Not doing more than what they already did now but doing it earlier instead of arresting doctors who tried to raise concern of its seriousness in December|0 This is the problem with current day America in general They treat you wish kid groves and always so worried about liabilities eg put a swing in the park and people may fall from it and sue So no swingaffordable life saving treatment for anyoneSame with American cleaning products and rubbing alcohol they dilute them with so much water here and add other inactive ingredients to make them smell nice and also so if you are dumb enough to drink it you wont get badly hurt and then sueThe Mexican ones are just hardcore No sugar coating permitted cabronAnd yes do consult another doctor Do your research first and find someone known to be more open minded Cq is actually used to treat liver infections|1 Idk it was not a big deal for us|0 Ill bet 50 or more|0 I think they were testing so they could say Look guys weve only got a few cases in our city youre fineWhen people are no longer fine whats testing going to do The only thing they can do is intubate you when you can barely breathe anymore and they dont need a special test to tell that|0 I see Far more than 50 people in those buildings at once though Its like ground zero for the spread of anything really|1 Its honestly quite fitting Boomers screwed the world over and now the world is about to screw them too|0 Source Who was fired when for saying or doing what|0 also if this isnt symptomatic of some larger issue in your marriage be somewhat mindful that enforced isolation with a couple of kids for two weeks isnt conducive to making major life decisions It has to be stressful and you are probably not at your best in terms of diplomacy skills I hope you find a compromise as others suggested perhaps you could stay with a friend or family member who is isolating or perhaps he could bunk elsewhereIm pretty old divorced twice it is not something I would ever go through if there was still love and respect on both sides |1 I think I saw somewhere that this is fake|0 No its not lol Jesus you people are ridiculous|0 Strap on the tinfoil hats China is lying theyve burned much of the evidence of actual death numbers Many of the deaths they didnt even test patients to attribute it to corona Iran is obviously lying like a mofo And now so is the US because dipshit in chief thinks we will have a vaccine in a week Bazooka Jerome shot his wad today and it did nothing Trump and the gang are truly panicking and will do anything to keep the numbers down as much as possible No shot we are testing a million people Not even close Less testing means less reported cases which to Trump means less attention to his mismanagement of the situation For whatever reason people are adhering to the gag the administration has imposed but maybe theres a hero out there yet|0 Thats fucked In Canada All you need is to have travelled out of the country and have shown any sort of symptoms|0 No they have to pay for it as a payroll expense|0 Absolutely yes and they will continue to get it wrongIgnoring WHO advice of test test test is one of the biggest mistakes they are making|1 Howd you come to that conclusion There are 4 countries excluded in Europe two are members of the European Union its got absolutely nothing to do with politicsIts to do with the ability of the USA to track limit and contain and in that manner deny entry to people from hotspot locationsThis is easy with countries outside the Schengen like Cyprus Ireland and the United Kingdom because if you fly from Germany for example to the UK you need your IDPassport checkingscanning this means they have a list of where you came from this cant be done in the Schengen where you can cross from Germany to France for example without checks at all|1 Right but the FDA so far hasnt approved facility labs for in house test processing This is entirely about stupidity or incompetence at the top levels of government since its obvious to anyone with even cursory knowledge about the testing that this could have been farmed out to labs in every state by now|0 There are a few reasons why I think your analysis is mostly incorrect Here are a fewFirst this isnt just about manufacturing capacity Price signals can also expose latent supply For example asbestos abatement companies usually have hundreds of N95 respirators on hand If prices are capped at say 2 respirator that latent supply will stay latent The risk to the business from not having enough respirators on hand to continue operations outweighs the paltry profit that could be had from selling the stock On the other hand if the price is free to rise to 100 respirator that calculus changes and some supply that otherwise would not exist is released onto the market as the company cashes in on half their stockSecond WRT your example with Denver and NYC Yes a highly indemand product that is scarce will be expensive and people with more money will be able to purchase more Thats why being rich is great and being poor sucks I agree there is a public health benefit to wide distribution of masks We all have a stake in public health so the government should buy up supply at market rate with public funds and distribute a mask ration to atrisk populations But even then there is a role for unrestricted pricing in the market I might be willing to scrape by with 2 of my three rationed masks if I can sell one for 100 Someone with an immunocompromised child might really need that mask and be willing to pay for it even if its 100 Sure they might not have 100 to spend But if such prices are outlawed then nobody including the rich are going to be able to buy an extra mask Masks simply wont be for saleThird speculators like your hypothetical Columbus millionaire are good for price discovery assuming its not literally 100 of the national mask supply and it wouldnt be how could that happen They take the risk of holding inventory that may be worth less after the disaster is over in the hope that the value of the inventory increases and they can make a profit These speculators are actually the invisible hand in action changing the price to reflect the net present expected future value of those items You really want this pricing mechanism to function especially with critical goods in a disaster as discussed in my previous two paragraphs These people are helping to efficiently allocate scarce resources to those who most need them and can afford them rather than leaving extra supply unsold and leaving those most in need unable to acquire their goods at any price|1 A friend of mine runs a daycare in Manama and they are shut down Officially for 2 weeks but it is likely to continue beyond that|1 Basically stupidity is everywhere whether its in a big city or a small town|0 No I am keeping quiet about the endless supply of chickpeastinned tomatoes and rice in the supermarkets ethnic isle oh Oops|0 Motherfuckin Context clues Theyre useful|1 Thank you I appreciate you taking the time to reply Ill get an appointment booked|1 Yeah were on the same page It really is incredibly sad to see whats happening to that community|0 The first case was identified in late Dec somewhere between Dec 21 and 26 They informedhttpswwwwhointwesternpacificemergenciescovid19 WHO on Dec 31 On the same day it was reportedhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFN8NKtXYl2Q by the state media and the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission issued a warininghttpwjwwuhangovcnfrontwebshowDetail2019123108989 to avoid gathering and wear masks But both the Wuhan govt and the people didnt take it seriously back then|0 Well Im off to Mars Whos coming|1 Theyre literally setting up testing stations in the parking lot of Walmarts Target CVS and Walgreens And its free What are you on about and why am I getting downvoted This subreddit is insane httpsfortunecom20200313walmarttargetcvswalgreencovid19testcenters|1 People need to be looking at places like Pakistan Bangladesh India Egypt Indonesia Nigeria Congo Iraq and ask yourselves if they are going to be able to help their sick at the same level that China has The 3 death rate in China will be much higher in those countries|0 225 is hundreds of millions Theyre both just estimates It could be less or it could be more It will be much less with quarantines as that will buy hospitals time to treat people Im not causing panic I actually dont think anyone should panic Its very much out of our hands at this point|1 Its not going to be THAT bad After all the vast majority of people will be ok At least half will either not get it or be completely asymptomatic Most of the other half will experience only mild or moderate symptomsYes the economy is going to crater the stock market is going to drop by 50 or something they will be filling stadiums with the sick and dying but the vast majority of people will be ok In a way it is good that we have this pandemic because it is so relatively mild In the worst case no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population are going to die It could be so much worseWith what we learn from this pandemic we will be MUCH better prepared for the next|0 As a Government they have to manage not just the health crisis but also the social political and economic aspects So I can understand why they use technically accurate terms to immunise against accusations of lying and also craft the message to reduce panic in public which wouldnt really help the situationSuppose you are the Government given the same facts at each stage without hindsight and resources what would or could you have done differently to improve things on the ground significantly If you have you should really provide feedback or make it known|0 Please be civil Using insulting language towards other users may result in a ban|0 How am I supposed to eat Feed my kitties I want to die|0 Im really glad to hear it helped We are all well at the moment thanks for your concern Nobody blames you for spreading false information I can only imagine what your are going through emotionally and that was an understandable reaction I wish you and your father all the best and hope this will just be a sad memory one day|1 Im a pretty deep thinker but tbh the only thing I kept thinking while reading this wasI want some of what OP is smoking Ill read it again tho|0 My three year old son and I got pneumonia in the fall he got it from another kid at daycare and gave it to me He was undiagnosed for two weeks despite two pediatrician visits its only when I was diagnosed that they called his upper respiratory infection anything other than there seems to be a lot of this going aroundWere fine It was fine It wasnt scary there was no hospital involved just diligent inhaler use from me because I have asthma Pneumonia CAN be deadly but it can absolutely be so mild as to be mistaken for a cold|0 Yea people are crazily out and about I had to get my car into a dealership today for a fix since I have no choice but to drive 4 hours to Boston 3 times in the next 2 weeks for my cats continued radiation treatment that cannot be done closer Expected the place to be dead Amazed that the place is packed lots of people casually shopping for new cars even though just last night the governor told everyone to avoid unnecessary trips out |0 Alcohol that is like not 100 alcohol can supposedly damage screens with moisture and other stuff but Ive a screen protector so how would that work Lol|1 Id probs stay in my home like a hermit |1 FD I believe stands for Fire Department Couldnt make out the writing on back of their shirt but it looked like it said Atlanta But I could be wrong Edit this is Albany NY|0 no hand sanitizer in my local aldi all sod out|1 Organise special child care for those that needs to help the system ie special school kids care for doctors etcThe messed up thing is private schools in aust are closing and these are where doctors kids go|1 Reddit was never about free exchange of ideas|0 What in the actual fuck|0 Ohh ok that makes sense Yeah thats exactly it with this illness Most people that have it have no idea they have it even if they have mild symptoms Your figures are roughly correct from my understanding that 80 pretty much dont know they have it Its the 20 that medical centers are worried about but that 20 is an average Most young adults dont have serious illness and only 510 get seriouscritical The issue I have is that the death rates from countries like South Korea are low because they get adequate treatment To me its places that get our of control like Italy that really need to worry because even if youre sick you might not get an ICUventilatorThis disease doesnt kill everything in its path the problem is that it gives serious illness or kills just enough to overwhelm our medical systems Im not personally worried of dying from this Im a very fit young adult I just dont want to go in public get it and not know I have it and then give it to my old parents unknowingly Thats the real fearThe other fear I have is America Im Canadian and I worry that our neighbors to the south will lose control of their society if this thing overwhelms all of their medical centers at once Americans dont seem like the type to hunker down because the government told them to I dont know maybe Im wrong about that hopefully|0 Interesting point|1 Theres video of guys in China welding doors shut They are saying it was to try and stop the spread of the virus Is this true Im having a hard time with this|1 Saudi Arabia also have a huge population of slave labour from India Pakistan and the Phillipines They live in cramped unsanitary conditions|1 does everyone know this isnt the first time this has happened avian flu yellow fever middle east respiratory syndrom also in the coronavirus family sars mers etcits going to be ok being prepared isnt bad by any means but we really need to be better as a whole species at containing these outbreaks from the beginning it happens every year this isnt a zombie apocolypse|1 Youre right My assertion is incorrect Canada has slightly less tourism than the UAE from China every year Australia has significantly more The number of cases makes sense I still have my eyes on Indonesia No cases is impossible|0 LOL basically every developed country sells OTC anti inflammatory drugs in 100 qty capsules Quit being such an idiot for one day and find something more prouctive to worry about|0 Last time I had flu I was a lot nearer actually dying than is any fun at all And Im thirty And Id had the flu jab was just unlucky|0 Thats a very common age at 50 the death rate goes up With diabetes kidney issues and lung issues their chances of die went even higher so unfortunately its expected for the old and vulnerable to die|0 Lets hope for good results|1 Companies give you sick time but you get looked down on for using it Youre looked at as lazy I was sick last month Started on Saturday by Monday It was probably the worst Ended up going to work because my boss doesnt like us using sick days Ive got over two weeks By Wednesday my son got got sick so I said i had no choice but to stay at home|0 If you become a host to the virus you would further the spread of the virus to people you meet surfaces you touch air you cough or even breathe in Even if you end up fine you could be responsible for spreading it to more people some of who certainly will die from itThe more people who have it concurrently the higher load it is on hospitals with limited space and equipment such as respirators That means many people who would NOT have died with proper medical care WILL because it isnt available This is not a hypothetical It is already happening and will likely happen in the US because not enough people are stopping like you are to think about the effects of their actions on anybody but themselves|1 IKR When this news from Thailand initially came out remember reading someone complain Thailand is too confident they can treat this disease like cmon dude are you rooting for the virus|1 Honestly i agree and support them Disneyland has been open throughout flu season and they see through the medias bullshit So does Japan and the olympic comittee People are recovering the media is purposely avoiding the good news and making small numbers look like a death sentence|1 6 deaths in how many days Maybe people will take this serious now|0 Im not sure where youre getting the thing about a closed system This says they have stopped testing at their outpatient clinics|0 I disagree|0 She deleted that pretty damn quick|1 Im Im Arizona theyre acting like nothing is happening here at all business as usual|1 Death is excitingDo you know what exciting means|0 Its incredibly reasonable for people to express dismay at how Trump has approached this entire thing It has everything to do with the coronavirus My point is that people critiquing his mishandling of this shouldnt immediately be met with downvotes and comments ardently defending him And your comment is fucking stupid and exactly what you yourself are complaining about your comment literally brought nothing to discussion other than crying about something you dont like|0 31 million Americans were diagnosed with flu last year 30k died 009 1800 only people have been tested for this disease 376 have been diagnosed with it 16 have died till now 45 of diagnosed patients till now have died As I said math is not your forte Neither is common sense|0 Patriotism is just a way of hating people you dont know Doug Stanhope|0 Martial sorry tiny quirk of mine|0 Have faith in President Trump and pray for his health and safety everyone Were in good hands Dont let the media fool you|1 From a public health perspective the point is to reduce and slow spread not to prevent any one individual from getting itHaving just white collar workers stay home and take their kids out of school would probably have a disproportionate public health impact even if service workers have to go to work because1 Most of the early US cases have been concentrated among affluent whitecollar workers because they tend to travel more2 They often have more social ties in general because of the nature of the work3 It could stop or seriously delay spread between social classes because the primary social tie between whitecollar and bluecollarservice workers is through the public school system and public transit|0 To be fair 99 of all doctors were saying this just 2 weeks ago None of them learned about this virus in Med school They just dont know They are as dumb as the average person when it comes to this particular virus|0 Hearing stories of people getting stuck abroad now struggling to get back and people starting to really worry about foodThey is a global pandemic and 100s soon to be 1000s of people that otherwise wouldnt will die We had 2 months to prepare I started as soon as I saw flats getting welded in China and hospitals getting builtMy family laughed at me for stocking up Even now they are not bothering but to be honest its too late in my opinion now loads more people are stocking up the shops are struggling and I think the amount of people thats have stocked up is tinyIve now turned to stage 3 of my prep which is luxury food items chocs alcohol etcMost people are at stage 0 they have got enough food if they did a cupboard stew for 23 daysThe whole world is stocking piling if food starts to become slow or even packaging there will be supply chain issues and I think its evident there already is|1 Lol some of these comments show the disparity between classes Wut about my other bills If this is untaxed its literally a month pay raise to people living off of minimum wage in America A fucking raise|1 Chinas hospitals were also overwhelmed People who would live with a little help died waiting for itId think this suggests gatherings and public events should be prohibited sooner than later|0 So what happens when an american gets the virus and gets really sick If you dont have the money they just let you die This kind of healthcare is free where I live taxes|0 I think the truth of the matter is that the government has known for a while that preventing the spread is futile They are probably just aiming to slow it as much as possible to keep everything runningAnd yes if you have loved ones who are suceptible I would definitely take some precautions like avoiding them at all cost if I had any symptoms|1 Im so sorry that is really tough |0 What do you mean whatGaslighting is when someone tries to get you to doubt your own memory of events or judgment about what happened in the past Thats not at all what theyre doingTheyve just stopped trying to downplay this and falsely reassure people which they were probably doing just to avoid panicOur own government basically did the same thing with Trump saying it was all under control the risk was low cases would quickly fall to zero theyd taken measures to prevent the spread into the US that were working etcIts all a bunch of BS to avoid panic But that can only work for so long before you have start being straight with peopleThats what the WHO is doing now Theyre finally being straight with people about how our governments arent handling this well|0 corona virus mutates much faster than many other virusThere are already two strains out in the wild the original one that doesnt spread as easily but is more lethal and the newer one that spreads even via airborne but is much less lethal|0 Youre the best Thank you for taking the time to give me such amazing and wise advice Youve given me a lot to think about and Ill be keeping your advice in mind whenever I feel too scared to speak up|1 the World Bank which raised 320 million in funding for the Pandemic Emergency Financing Facility PEF through a bond sale in 2017 doesnt need the WHO to declare a pandemic before paying out The fund channels resources to affected economies if a series of stringent conditions are methttpsfortunecom20200225coronaviruspandemicwhoFYI|0 I have the date April 22nd marked on my calendar Some boffin on here had done the maths and said that is when TSHTF big time so I figure hunker down cause we have not seen anything yet Sadly|0 Thank you for this|1 Oh seems like a clickbait|1 Imagine being so stupid you dont know how math works I bet you are one of those idiots that think that you can just trim a few dollars off the military budget and we could all have free school and healthcare|0 Why does that empty street with a warm song feel so eerie|0 Why most of it origins in AsiaEven Black Death|0 Those semen are well educated to eradicate coronavirus go forth|1 The 01 will reinstitute debtors prisons and work makes you free ideas|1 They banned exports Same as other countries|0 If its not fake what does that make you|1 One is much easier to avoid and pharma cant make money off of cured people who couldve lived normal lives while medicated|1 I believe that all that we can infer from that is that we are not yet in an Iran style full blown epidemic with tens of thousands of total cases If you look at how epidemiologists predict this will propagate in spatial and temporal waves look at our travel ban and compare to places more tightly linked to China with and without a travel ban like South Korea Japan and Taiwan it makes some sense that the US is a few weeks behind those places in terms of growth If I had to guess the total number of infected cases in the US based on the known cases elsewhere where theyre testing strongly the size of our population etc I would say its still probably around 1000 That order of magnitude anyways Were a few weeks behind Korea The lack of detection in the flu surveillance network is consistent with us being early in the outbreak It takes the better part of a week to double so if thats comforting you can think about itll be another month before theres 100000 total cases across the whole country and another several weeks after that until theres 100000 cases needing the ICU when the healthcare system collapses At that point the epidemic can still get something like 50x bigger in principle although I think if it gets anything like that people will eventually begin to quarantine themselves We already see evidence of this in places without an organized response in Iran the streets are empty and normal life has stopped Far better to be to organized and proactive about this like China where there is some prioritizing what economic activities need to be continued rather than let everything dissolve into chaos where people all just try to shut themselves in once it gets scary enough That means our leaders will have some more time to get over their denial and accept that we need much more drastic action to slow spread than had been discussed|0 Whats so bad about socialism|0 Yes It is|1 The bot got mad about 80s Joel SuckshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvgaAX8x2qOxM Bad Bot|0 Nah fuck that I quit because of psychosis recently too and it actually went away Feel so much better|0 Lookt at the Toiletpaper situation people would have started to kill over masks|0 I am crossing my fingers that it is just the flu and not the coronavirus Have you all hit peak flu season yet I am so sorry you all are going through this You are in my thoughts and prayers|0 The nurse will certainly get it too|1 Is there really anywhere in the world except a couple countries in europe where people either get paid or can afford to not get paid for not working for several weeks Im legitimately curious|1 See though the US knows it just doesnt care about health safety or whether or not some citizens die|1 You should be thankful that you just learned the word hotspot its not an uncommon term|1 Crisis prevention is supposed to look excessive in retrospect if it successfully blocked the crisis in question A leader with a 100 approval rating is doing something wrong|0 I go now you dont want be locked out|0 2000 per house or 1000 per adult Duration is really the unknownPausing mortgage payments and stopping interest on credit cards for 12 months would make a huge difference|1 It was their holiday break they had time off workschooletc|1 Thanks He is in his own home now but visited my parents several times since he was possibly infected Had only mild symptoms then Cest la vie I suppose|0 Lol oh my such high dramaE figures some bullshit like this came from rarab|1 I would say that it seems like if that need arises meaning hospitals are being forced into a overcapacity situations they have never previously seenThe modern American health care system is pretty woefully inefficient in terms of its resource allocation The reason is that its a forprofit consumeondemand system focused on serving all customers equally and on an average day its actually one of the best in the world Talk to any ER frontline staff or just sit in an ER lobby for a few hours and youll learn that nearly half the people walking in the door dont even need to be there People abuse ERs as shortterm mental health clinics medication dispensaries homeless shelters hypochondria therapy elder infant care and dialanopiate drug dealers Im in the business of predicting outcomes from complex chaotic systems in my day job One thing that tends to throw off the predictions of newbies is that they havent learned when conditions change responses can change In other words they map tomorrows hypothetical circumstance onto todays system as if todays system cant actually change pretty quickly if it is suddenly incentivized to Its true that todays system hates changing and will resist the need to change in response to smaller disruptions However it can and will reach a tipping point that unleashes nonlinear step changes and the one saving grace of humans is how incredibly adaptive they can beNow combine that with the fundamentals of this situation CV19 is still fundamentally one of many influenzalike virusbased respiratory infections Its an especially shitty influenzatype virus for those who are elderly or immunocompromised if they end up progressing to severe pneumonia which most wont but thats less than 5 and probably quite a bit less in the US For the other 96 its exactly like a regular flu and maybe regular pnuemonia The recommended standard of care for those symptoms hasnt changed a whole lot since country docs were treating our grandparents These patients rarely ever need all the shiny touchscreen machines and diagnostic AI whizbangs While theyre great most of those devices are for nailing down unknown diagnoses or costsaving automation and convenience Even if this goes bigger than I think it will one thing that wont change is that well be treating the same disease presenting the same way over and over And even though its nasty its a pretty simple nasty Were going to find rapid efficiencies at scale in fact were already seeing that in Wuhan Im not saying it wont be bad Im saying its unlikely to remain as bad as all the Doomers are claiming for very long or in many places Sure there will be enough isolated examples of shortterm idiotcircuses to create Apocolypseporn for the evening news and get their ratings and clicks as everyone Tsk tsks Meanwhile out here in the real world the vast majority of our system will be efficiently working the problems and figuring out how to get the job done saving lives and sustaining our way of life with shockingly little disruption or compromise|1 Texas is pretty lax when it comes to this sort of thing Also we dont have an income tax Instead we just pile all of it taxes into property and sales taxes That way the rich arent discouraged from making money and even the poorest cant escape from paying taxes How else could we afford the Texas Enterprise Fund|1 Bingo Ive been having this intermittent discussion with a colleague where its like shes cognitively fighting against the flow of information Am I seeing what denial is like It started last week when we were talking about numbers and rates of infection and she just handwaved it all away That afternoon the government came out with the 5080 might become infected figure and she made it her mission to disprove thatThen today she was insisting that everything will be fine and that Italy is only in lockdown because they handled it badly in the beginning Jeeze now I read quote that back Im even more weirded out|0 Those mango hibiscus Lysol wipes smell amazing |1 Thats somewhat true you need to test to see the extent of the outbreak but dont forget that there is rapid spread and people dont just go from uninfected ultimate symptoms theres a progression All the while theyre spreadingIf you assume each person infects two others which Im showing here by daily doubling of the number of casesCases Day1 12 24 38 416 532 664 7128 8256 9512 101024 112048 124096 138192 14|1 This entire conversation completely reset my frame of mind this morning thank you all|1 Dressing in black face is responsible now lololEdit some racists up in here|0 Is there an option for reminding uDetroitGuyNVA directlyHi That can be added I got at least 2 requests recently If you have input on how it should work or it will be helpful to you lets talk over email at contactremindditcom|1 Nobodys gonna cancel a 30 billion dollar event until the bodies are literally piling up in the streets|0 and here I am a 46 year old drinking vodka because the stores ran out of isopropyl alcohol Ok Im lying Im drinking for fun but the stores around me have run out of everything Can Coronavirus be transmitted through oral sex Asking for a friend|1 Watch the video man He states N95 stop particles as small as 03 microns but viruses are much smaller and if they are airborne not droplets then the can slip right through|0 Thank you I originally took data from this API projecthttpsgithubcomExpDev07coronavirustrackerapiHowever now I am taking data from the UK datasets Welsh and Scottish Government websitesSources gisPHEhttpswwwarcgiscomhomesearchhtmlqowner3A22gisPHE22 Scotland Govhttpswwwgovscotcoronaviruscovid19 Welsh Govhttpsphwnhswalesnewspublichealthwalesstatementonnovelcoronavirusoutbreak|1 Apply for unemployment immediately|0 Well countries without freedoms have an upper hand in these scenerios They can force people to do things because their dictatorship allows it|1 Reddit comments are littered with exactly what youre saying worst cold ever around the new year I experienced it myself worst cold I ever had late December timeframe Lasted about a week and a half Didnt perfectly fit the normal pattern of a cold it was suddenonset rather than gradual and it was much more lowerrespiratory than upper more muscleachyfeverish than runny nose and so forth It also spread like wildfire everyone I had any contact with caught it within a few days and experienced the same symptoms It seems like wishful thinking that it was some sort of coronavirus It does seem much more likely that it was just a horribly bad cold or some version of the flu I and everyone I know got the vaccine But its odd that if you ask around on reddit this was an extremely common experience|0 First the corona virus and now the revenge of St Patrick|0 This is huge you waited too long but woke up before almost every other mayorKudos to NYC Leading by example|1 Thanks for sharing thats really helpful and interesting Wonder how that works|1 Everyone in this thread Fuck healthcare workers The overall benefit of society can go fuck itself me my personal loved ones are more important Same people who want medical care later when all the healthcare workers are home sick because they couldnt protect themselves due to mask shortages BUT IM THE MOST IMPORTANT WHY ISNT EVERYONE HERE TO SERVE ME|1 Im pretty worried I have a fever of 999 shortness of breath intense sweating sore throat body aches fatigue dizziness No cough or blocked nose I started feeling short of breath on thursday slightly ill on Fridayand terrible today Very lightheaded at times Im scared because Im immunocompromised I want to get tested but I am having difficulty just getting out of bed I could really use some reassuranc|0 Good point|1 One person from each household is allowed to leave 2x wedk to buy food If someone in your building tests positive no one is allowed to leave Groceries are delivered The resident lowers a bucket tied to a rope the delivery person puts the food in the bucket and the resident pull the bucket of food up to them|1 this photo is wrong Its not the old manI only know one 98 year old from my hometown that was treated and recovered Original newsvideos of him on Feb 14 is here httpswwwweibocom1642512402IujcL27TO|0 Really I define it asMild 80 Can be treated at homeSevere 16 Needs to be hospitalizedCritical 4 Needs an ICU bed with ventilatorsThe 80 cases while it may be shit for the people going through are not going to akill them b overwhelm the medical infrastructure and kill other people like say those with heart attacks who cant get an ICU bed as all ventilators are being used for COVID patientsSo the 80 does not worry me Its the 20 needing hospital beds is what worries me For comparison the Flu numbers are 90 not needing hospitalization2 needing ventilators and 1 dyingIts a very very very bad flu season and the hospital infrastructure in the US can barely handle a very bad flu seasonFurther these percentages are not even across age groups For those over 80 its 60 needing hopitalization 50 on ventilators and 15 dyingUSA does not have a culture of triage where you decide that the veiitlator and ICU bed needs to be kept available for in case you get a 30 yr old car accident victim by letting the 80 yr old Covid patient die so all ICU beds will get used up for the 80 yr olds|0 I just told the school Im oulling them for 2 weeks for precautionary reasons Told them Ill reassess on 27thThey totally understoodBy Monday They will REALLY understand|0 Humans are stupid We deserve this fully|0 No Many countries have developed their own test kits However none of them is working perfectly yet including Korea to make it clear There are always chance to get false negatives The best option at the moment as far as I know is labbased RTPCR kits PLUS lung imagining and even that isnt really perfect either Lung imagining however only work best for people with advanced symptoms and isnt as effective at early stage RTPCR alone has a 3 chance of getting false negatives that isnt too high but not insignificant either All in all no test has worked out with an 100 accuracy yet Thats why some countries have been quarantining isolating people in mass based on symptoms and contacts rather than just the test result although that might be a bit more difficult to do in the US|1 Yes|1 I would save the tests solely for those who work in healthcare and work with the elderly along with people who are seriously ill displaying symptoms of the disease so that proper treatment can be given Solely doing that would exhaust the 10000 daily capacity as they should all ideally be tested daily as well|1 Who said anything about taxes or healthcare care in general Follow your own topic shifting Are you stupid or obtuse on purpose I called you freeloaders in reference to pharmaceuticals which you are Its all good price controls protect you from carrying development costs others pay Of course you realize nothing is freeI would be defensive too if my system was so shitty it had to resort to the legal system to protect it from private healthcare and private insurers Seriously why is the Canadian government so m so scared of people paying themselves to get quality care they try to legally prohibit them from doing it Instead of saying healthcare is a right they should tell the truth it is a commodity the only the government can distribute even though the system is failing Like the heart patient a patient showing the appointment letter for an ekg his cardiologist ordered three month wait Three months for an ekg yep great system At least the letter included the provision if the person named is dexeased accept our apologies Like you said nothing is free|1 You sound mad anxious mess|0 Too bad we dont have one of those federal governments|0 Yall acting like Frank in the quarantine episode You cant escape the virus Its inside you already|1 Yeah there are still people with the delusion of grandeur that were the best country in the world not understanding that that statement itself has become a joke in the international community The more we fight amongst ourselves the further we fallHopefully after this pandemic we can eat a slice of humble pie and snap out of it It might not be the best but I love this country and all it stands for I just want the fighting to stop Maybe this is how it felt before the civil war broke out|0 I think the hardest part for me is I have a lot of picky eaters My youngest is about to learn portion control and to expand her taste buds Plus theres not an endless supply of goldfish crackers anymore |1 I was looking this up the other day apparently china reports very few flu deaths compared to other places in the world This was attributed to underreporting and difference in how they record cause of death Unfortunately cant find the article anymore|0 Good thing since there is still a relatively large playerbase|1 Is it ironic because the waffle mix is white I dont get the irony here|0 I needed to hear that part about forcing other people down the rabbit hole with me The public mood has shifted in my country Australia and people are getting frightened Its time for me to pivot from reading about this on the internet by myself to practically helping people in my community|0 Ill see what I can do|0 Well supposedly China is now finally closing the wet markets but well see if that sticks|1 I dont really think of Japan as a place with very good social programs but maybe I have the wrong impression Paying mothers to stay home to manage an outbreak seems great However it would be better if it was available to either parent If we had kids it would be my SO staying home not me|1 Wow Such distinction So we have the 2019nCoV COVID19|1 this is underemphasized especially in the US and contributes to the complacency among those who think they are healthy|1 Were 15 hours away from all of our parents Everything in me wants to pack up my kid and spouses and go home Its like a primal urge I cant get away from even though its not even a feasible option Apparently in emergent situations my base instinct is to flee home TILTLDR I wanna see my mom|1 Except that doesnt explain the general behavior of ALL the staff there Theyre treating this like its a regular flu look at how casual they are about potential infections no WONDER everyones getting infected on that petri dish the Japanese bureaucrats got no effin idea what theyre doing|0 their supplies ran out when they barely have any casesIt was Chinese New Year so the factories making surgical masks were not in business The government released part of the strategic stockpile of masks to prevent price gouging before production can be resumedAnd by the way they sent aid and masks to Australia and refused to ship anything to China so Australia just returned the supplies to chinaThe masks sent to Australia were done before the outbreak|0 Im in CA and I started seeing empty grocery store shelves last week|0 Now is it actually really 2 deathrate or more like 2030|1 We waste a huge amount on heroic futile care extending end of life care in ICUs instead of hospiceWe also overorder testing due to fear of litigation|1 Well the death rate over age 100 is 00001 They have a better chance of survival than the rest of us combinedDisclaimer these numbers are made up for the purpose of humor|1 You can type n95 or purell into amazon and see tens if not hundreds of price gouging listings right now|1 Thats not a nuke Thats a water drop compared to real nuke|0 Thank you for this information|1 There is no need to test them because they couldnt have been infected if they havent been to Wuhan s|1 What about them degrades though Will it still be partially effective Is it primarily the rubber that is fucked Anyone know|0 Maybe or maybe just a lot of people dying by natural causes and unknown viral infections Cant know much until we have adequate statistical sampling|1 Immediate action ideaBe creative Get hand sanitizer to all people hand sanitizer used in between hand washing might plausibly be helpful to flatten the curve Make it or find it and get it available at pharmacies and grocery stores Its cheap and it might help but its amazing to me that there has been zero stock in any stores for over a month and a half now 95 ethanol is readily available to use to make it domestically It hurts nothing to make hand sanitizer available to all people and it might possibly help prevent infections|1 Im speaking from official figures 8 of all known resolved cases died I think youre pulling anecdotal stories from your ass|0 Theyve had trouble especially at the beginning getting people for some of these trials because for it to be done correctly they have to have not taken any other drugs or treatments|0 This is where its important to understand that youre truly powerless to change another person in any way It sounds like youve said what you need to sayand its ultimately up to him to accept responsibility for his choices Hopefully nothing bad happens but Id stay far away from him physically for the foreseeable future|1 I wear a scarf around my face mouth and nose and neck because its super windy and I get cold If I just had seven scarves one for each day I go out would I be just as safe as wearing a mask|1 I think your overstating it These sites are actually cancelling most of these before they ever complete a sale and the ones that slip by represent an irrelevant fraction of toilet paper|0 Spoken like a true soldier of the sigmoid|1 I have ADHD and that makes it hard for me to get my thoughts in order not sure why the amount of edits is even relevant to what I said Also youre still wrong Have a great night|0 Nope its in the release they put out Pathetic|0 Companies over 500 employee are excluded|0 Blessed be the leaker of the emails|1 I thought it worked to illustrate the point Yeah for sure the parallels are all over the place with China 1984 in generalThey had 10 confirmed cases 6 days ago httpswwwrfaorgenglishnewsuyghurcoronavirus01282020170707html in their concentration camps where people have virtually no access to healthcare let alone some of their own organs which may have proven useful you never know|1 Queue walking dead music|0 They are not even testing for Heinsberg or other clustersOTOH all those lame decision makers fall into the group of infections with severe outcome so this problem will be eventually solved with a high price tag known as collateral damagecant we just organize a big fat party for deniers and decisionmakers|0 Thanks for the update|1 Man only if he did some stupid shit before so we could have known|0 This is only going to lead to more hysterical toilet paper hoarding|0 No they have declared it a pandemic|0 A skilled nursing facility SNF refers to a facility for short term rehab and recovery People often go here after a deconditioning event including long hospitalizations and surgeries Medicare covers you for 20 days with daily therapy and will not cover people for the full length of time who are too sick to participate in therapy So yes the people are sick but it really varies and most people in a SNF are just getting stronger before returning homeThis place also has long term skilled nursing care This would mean that people are paying at least 7000 a month for 247 nursing care unless they have Medicaid These people usually need assistance with transferring bathing toileting getting dressed and eating So these people can be either very ill or very disabled or both|1 That ominous tone in the background added to the video Fucking newsLiterally taking tricks out of movies to try and scare their readers|0 No the fucked up thing is people like you because you will still expect those doctors and nurses to put their lives on the line for you and your family and hopefully they wont have your selfish attitude because if they do all the hospitals will be getting ready to close indefinately because whats actually best for the hospital staff is not putting their lives and their families lives at risk by staying at work to help the people who contract this disease especially when those sick people are the same who would not have helped them by giving them some masks|1 well this sub went from mostly accurate information with well reasoned comments to full on conspiracy theory shitposting in a matter of days nice job guys|1 Same to you Godspeed friend|1 yes they are|1 Were you able to get both socks on this morning I hope so wishing you the best|1 mortality as deaths divided by solved cases is huge in Italy like 40Wtf kind of a metric is that Italy is reporting 5 lethality|1 Sounds like a lot of us should get together and reshuffle ourselves with new partners All the ones who are like uhok can be together and go uhok a lot and the ones interested in studies and pandemics and the like can be together and go if r0 is above 3 and the CFR of the 4560 age group is and nod vigorously a lot|1 TIL countries can be bad at money management too cuz I dont know ours do with all its money We never seem to have money for anything important|0 Same here at my school in Germany my classmate was in Italy during the holidays she went to school the first week then had to stay home our teacher only said if we should get symptoms we should stay in our classroom|1 We had a very low death rate for the first 1000 or so then it spiked it might be as you say a nursing home or something there definitely needs to be more time and data It would be more appropriate to have a deaths per capita numberBut there is nothing from preventing one getting a coronavirus test in the UK up until last Friday anyway where they switched to hospital only so I highly doubt the UK or NHS were under testing or lying about their numbers|0 North Korea has closed their doors to visitors When the rest of us are decimated we will all regret that we dont live in NK s|0 LOL yea cause ford cutting public Heath funding is helping the situation|1 Tell me they used a laugh track|1 Released it on themselves first to make sure it worked |1 They charge for WiFi on the ships but I imagine they probably credited back people who paid for internet if its now open to everyone My cruise experiences have been very very customer friendly Usually if something goes wrong they will comp your loss and then throw in a bonus of some kindCruise vacations have always ended up being absolutely worth the money for the service and experience Youre traveling to see the world and yet the actual travel experience is comfortable and fun Ive never once gotten home from a trip and felt like I didnt come out with a better experience than I paid for but Im also one of those coupon loving deal finding getthesameexperienceforless kind of peopleBut buy the travel insurance I probably would have cancelled traveling right now and rebooked for a later trip in hopes they get a handle on things in the next few months|1 The fact that they are actively targeting posts and comments about this only increases my suspicionsAbsolutely Their behavior is that of a guilty party|1 Can someone drop a clue as to what movie this is people are referencing|0 I would like to make an addendum to thisMany people are feeding away from the infected zones mostly to Southern Italy to find safety in small villagesRisking however to spread the flu even more|0 Strange the documentation for surgical grade N95s had pressure ratings for fluids but not a fluid resistance rating|0 Im good thanks Im aware of steps that can be taken I just want to make sure any newcomers are aware of what may happen if they run 247 with no optimizations|1 Hating America is good though America sucks|0 14 of people who got better got it back for a second windQuit spreading this They switched their testing methods to anal swabs 14 tested positive in follow up appointments when tested using an anal swab Unless theres new info it said nothing about them having symptoms again|1 And Im so sorry the virus has now spread to other countries I truly am very sorryIts not your fault Dont be sorry But not all Chinese are bad peopleI never thought that for a second I have many Chinese friends and I worry about them every day I dont think its fair for you to say that we all deserve it because of the terrible behaviours of somePeople who say that are horrible human beings Dont worry about them Like everywhere some people are assholes doesnt mean everyone is an asshole|0 Wont be possible for the US The US is a federation of states and the states have much more saypower then in most countriesThe federal governments role is limited to guidance and providing assistance as requested Response training and supply management is up to the statesIf Trump could secure more medical resources that would be pretty huge but unless the states specifically request that the federal government cannot give it to them even if the federal government has them on hand|1 And if you dont need very good tactile functions cotton gloves below the latex or nitrile gloves at work Else with already dry and cracked skin you might get all kinds of nasty skin conditions so bad that some labworkers have to look for a different job because at some point they cant wear gloves anymore at all|0 Hey buddy Stay safe Ive got March 20th marked for the numbers shooting up in USA and March 27th for when the hospitals are overwhelmed A lot of the front line doctors in Wuhan died as they supposedly received a higher viral load than the normal patient and found it harder to fight off the virus|0 I will bring Death Bubba and White Widow I am buying ticket to Madagascar it is too crazy in Hancouver|0 Rocking pneumonia and the boogie woogie flu|0 Basically whats sadly happening in Iran I dont know what there health system is like but they seem to be really struggling to get to the point to prevent people turning up to hospital already in critical condition|0 You said anyone complaining Disney is still opening but still attending University is a hypocrite Thats what I was responding to|0 They also love coming up with inflammatory catchphrases and repeating them ad infinitum If you wake up one morning and suddenly see hundreds of accounts spamming the same quick catchy phrase youve never heard before its probably them|1 The vast vast majority of the people who have this virus arent and dont need to be going to the doctor for it Its really that simple Most people will recover naturally from this and those that have complications go to the ICU Thats why weve only been hearing about people who are in serious condition|0 Wow Absolutely ZERO assistance or even CLUE of what to do by these people There is ZERO preparation This is what happens when healthcare is seen as unimportant and a source of funds for the 01|1 Were so fucked No American business will grant this kind of time off|0 Im sure theres a significant number others have assumed they had the flu and likely had just stayed home and treated it as such but were positive for this thing In my case though it definitely was influenzaI did get checked because my fever went up to over 104 and as someone with asthma AND as an RN who has direct patient contact I wanted to be sure it wasnt COVID19|1 Hell I got it last year and it sucked It has been included in the annual flu vaccine for a decade Did you really not get an influenza vaccine for ten years|0 Am I reading something else than OP 12 Hatch Distance when Eggs are placed into Incubators during this time periodSo essentially for every 1 KM the game you reward as if you walked 2 PokStops will now drop Gifts more frequentlySo PokeStops now give better rewards than before Pokmon habitats will increase and more Pokmon will be appearing in the wildSo now there are more pokemons aroundSo this change essentially makes active gameplay way more rewarding and motivates to go outside more|1 They thrive on sensationalism Yet when shit gets real SILENCE Nothing to see here Look how great our economy is doing Distractions from the actual truth I wish I could say Im surprised but Im not|1 Its hard to blame them too If you live alone and youre sick what do you do when you run out of Tylenol or soup or whatever just give up and die I blame the authorities for not taking control of this problem like theyre supposed to do|0 Thanks man I feel like its High School all over again The nonconformist tries to make a statement But all I want to do is not endanger my health or the people I give service to From the countries I trust South Korea Hong Kong and Taiwan they highly recommend not going out keeping far distances from others and washing your hands along with not touching your face They all wear masks|1 Im not going to lie I was not very concerned until today Ive been washing my hands a lot and using hand sanitizer and not touching my facebut now Im actually considering not going into work and not letting my son go to school We just had a presumptive case in my town and things are getting real|1 Well I would be able to do something if I wasnt waiting for my Bar exam results that are now in some form of limbo|1 Oh man my conspiracyinsane family are going to be heading for the woods in a minute I honestly did not expect to see Wisconsin confirmed|1 Dont blame the ones taking the orders blame those giving them|1 True thatthey cry when people are rude to them here Dunno how a country with people like that are going to make sacrifices|0 This is typical normalcy bias for sure|1 Global yeah Pretty sure 1st world countries is way higher than 72 80s sounds more accurate|1 I love this but whats with the CFR I think some of the data from the US is screwed|0 Hard to justify 15 million dead if YOUR entire family is dead from the virus|0 Yes God protects him with a armoured vehicle|1 Maybe is to calm the mind of some paranoid peoples|1 The infectious rate plus high hospitalization makes a bioweapon facility accidental release seem possible Most zoonotic diseases start out slow on transmission but highly lethal Then the virus evolves to higher transmission and lower lethal Like SARs and MERs|1 Apparently the way symptoms manifest is first with a fever then the virus begins killing off cilia and causes pneumonia beginning about five days later At that point the cytokine storm kicks in and punches holes in the lungs in a distinctive honeycomb pattern The patient starts manifesting severe symptoms coughing difficulty breathing and eventually needs to be put on a respirator Either the pneumonia or heart failure kills them Patients almost never develop severe congestion or gastrointestinal problems typical of the fluIt seems like the reason this is noticeably different is that relatively healthy people will get a little bit sick for a few days and then plummet downhill extremely quickly So far infection seems to be most easily identifiable by the honeycomb pattern on the CT scan caused by the cytokine storm but at this point the patient is already severely ill and may not survive at allI use words like apparently and seems like because Im just reading different papers and piecing them together It sounds absolutely awful|0 I feel ya I wish he would work elsewhere to be honest|1 Fucked up|0 1 upvote 1 thought 1 like 1 prayer and 1 subscribe 1 smash that bell icon|1 I could mot get past him saying that all along he was saying we need to squash this What a lying ass Sure changed his tune|0 I know a lot of people who are scared and stocking up yet continue to go about their lives normally instead of spending less time out and about in crowded areas for nonessential stuff I have friends who think Im crazy to cancel plans to things like concerts or craft shows or out to the bar Their attitude is well yes its serious but we cant stop living our lives as if it would kill you to skip a night out at the club until the situation improvesIm not saying people should be holed up in bunkers or anything but so many people seem unwilling to change their behavior at all What even is the point of stocking up household supplies when you continue to be out and about as much as you are when there isnt a pandemic Why stock your pantry and then instead of cooking at home you keep eating out at restaurants all the time|0 Uuuh unless a literally World War breaks out Id still say 1939 or37 depending on how you see it will remain the worst year in a century|0 Talk to me about it please Im studying and tracking this virus for scientific purposes Im in Atlanta but Ive already realized I cant trust the news I wanna know whats going on in Seattle from people that are there|0 I think thats fine Im pretty sure I read that California prohibits raising prices of essential items more than 10 duringafter an emergency I dont know what numbers other states use but I think most places should be fine with nonextreme price increasesBut this guy wasnt even a store and he actually contributed to the supplydemand problem He took a UHaul across like 1000 miles across states to buy up almost 20000 bottles of sanitizer Then he put it on amazon at a huge markup He depleted supplies so that people would HAVE to buy online where he was now offering them at a much higher price plus shipping|1 My local schools in OK are closed until April 6th right now|1 Youre not serious rightWell yes I thought the streptest was for bacterial pneumonia|0 Yes I think this all the time The external factors of my life was so much more predictable and stable during the first 30 years|1 Dont threaten me with a good time|1 I understand but I have grave reservations about the mitigation strategy and herd immunity concept in that I think the chance for casualties to spiral out of control is unacceptably high|0 Same in Taiwan They bought 6 machines to make masks locally and had their military operate the factories and have been cranking out a massive supply which has been distributed to the public They have very low infection rates there|0 Better for clicks|1 Construction goes cheapest price usually So most vertical construction will take huge hits over the next few months Could be bad dont Wana be all doom and gloom but certainly feels like a recession is brewing|0 very interested aswell|1 Flu is nowhere near that The rule of thumb that Ive always heard is 24 hours after your fever breaks youre sufficiently less contagious that you can go back to workschoolThe question as I understand it though isnt whether we can use RTPCR to detect genetic fragments that match the sequences that were looking for It is whether the person is shedding enough viable virus to infect another person We cant know that from a PCR study and it may be some time before we really know that answer|0 have been no new reported cases in over a weekCant have cases to report if youre not actually looking for them|0 Its not a conspiracy Its total incompetence Weve known for weeks We could have adopted the test the rest of the world was doing but decided to develop our own costing us time Then it didnt work costing us more time but we still didnt adopt the test from GermanyThe test is not hard Its very basic We should have been testing thousands weeks ago We got the genome sequence at the exact same time as Korea who are testing 10000 a day|0 This happened in the movies too Fuck the Fed in these situations and you know they will protect their own asses first when shit gets hard Especially with an incompetent narcisist in charge|0 Well said and agreed especially regarding the goal of these measures is specifically to prevent a sudden overwhelming surge of intensive care patients where triaging becomes necessaryI should clarify I meant recreational mass gatherings may have to be banned for more than 8 weeks Though hopefully nonessential businesses will be able to resume after 8 weeks|1 Shit I also really fear for the majority of Americans working paycheck to paycheck without adequate insurance or healthcare|0 Prepay ask them to leave on the porch Spray container with lysol and hope the kitchen staff doesnt have it and are being safe with hygiene Not worth the risk until more is known but I wish these people the best of health keeping America fed is super freaking important even if a good chunk of the country thinks they are beneath them they are taking one for the team because they cannot afford to stay home nor can we afford to have them stay home not implying you just stating a fact|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 To be fair WHO and CDC have both been downplaying this virus Now that they are ringing alarm bells finally a lot of people just dont beilieve them Theyve got that first few weeks of propaganda burned into their brain|0 Agreed I only wear gloves going out of the car now to shop and Im down to very few trips out of the house|1 holy shit I was so confused about why their lungs were so small at first|0 Have a tear in my eyes when watching this Keep fighting Italy All the best from Germany we love you |1 Im sure they expect it to help with public perception as well Wow sick Uber drivers can stay home so that must mean the ones working are all healthy Five stars|1 Fuck Fortune for putting these articles behind a paywall|0 Vitamin d deficiency is horrible for respiratory infectionsHitting at lowest vit d season for those in the north that dont supplement httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2759054sec1title|0 I am a biomedical scientist I suspect youre not a scientist because the CDC have not recommended vinegar to kill the virus But the other giveaway is that you dont even mention a percentage No scientist worth their salt would say X kills viruses Of course the concentration of X is critical This recommends a percentage of alcohol lower than what scientists are saying kills the virus plus vinegar which is not recommended to kill the virus plus other random junk that would dilute both to an unknown final percentageDont come here encouraging people to put their health at risk Be aligned with the WHO and CDC or GTFO|0 If anything we are being over cautious Cuomo said Are you though|0 As mashed potato yourself I can see why this is difficult for you Donating a dime is a waste of time|0 Well I suppose similar things are happening in many places right now Consider the alternative Breaking News COVID19 Outbreak in Bangkok Local hospital is filling up with new cases That will set a heck of a panic bad enough to close down Soi Cowboy|0 But others are things like antibiotics|1 Oh They also have books to read Reading books is great escapism|1 As an American I have seriously considered taking a cheap flight to another country that has an actual healthcare system to accidentally get tested and quarantined Sorry boss Im stuck in EuropeAsia for a month |0 A single CT scan is a lot of radiation but if its requested for a medically sound reason the benefits outweigh the risks Also chest xrays are one of the lower dose things you can get A comparison to an equivalent of background radiation exposure is a better metric a CT scan can be 110 years of background radiation dependent on the anatomical region scanned|1 are writes of that headline five year oldsymptoms are an immune system response no response no symptoms|0 you cant ban your own citizens from entering your own countrywhy nothttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNbrPEMVR6Jk|1 Yeah I know what you mean Looks like he did deteriorate though and says of 90 on air and meeting SIRS criteria would definitely not be managed on an outpatient basis Glad hes better|1 I just feel like 1 The governments money is our money It comes from all of us so I dont think its fair that our money would be going into private corporations rather than being used to create jobs and invest back into our economy It just seems like a bad plan to me And 2 I dont believe these companies are capable of making nutritious food Theyre more laboratories than they are restaurants tbh|1 No Id rather the federal government support its citizens from becoming indigent and destitute during a pandemic I suppose thats selfish of me|0 Im starting to worry|0 I work at a major hospital on the east coast and the 2 other major hospital systems a couple counties over are all limiting one support person per patient All other visitors and family members are not allowed on campus Which is huge So these hospitals are trying to decrease the risk of exposure for staff and patients and upping their cleaning standards But they can only do so much|1 Youre talking about logistics for an entire country God What a bumpkin|1 Fuck Vice the only good thing they had was Hamiltons Pharmacopia once you learned a coping technique for his voice|0 Haha jokes on you South Africa is a junk country that can barely keep the lights on that went into recession just before our first case Sitting on 24 confirmed cases at the moment government is not disclosing how many people have been tested only that all positive cases are travellers from other countriesTesting is most likely not done in countries like this because they lack the resources to effectively or cheaply test peopleThey might not be able to connect symptoms with COVID19 In South Africa crime statistics are severely skewed because the police are unable to link crimes together ie cartel steal roll on deodorant from shop A and shop B Both report the crimes The crimes are never connected as being done by the same perpetrators and even if they survive the 80 of cases that go into the trashbin they will probably just aid in swelling statistics of once off theft the country is probably home to a lot of serial murdersrapists and we dont know because crimes are all treated independently of each otherThe same thing could be applying here COVID19 symptoms could be incorrectly contributed as flu or pneumonia and medical professionals are not taking further stepsIn many service industry companies they have been focusing on having employees wash hands wear gloves and sanitising surfaces no mention of any masks or of proper sneezingcoughing procedures Today is one of 3 big national paydays and take away places and malls are packed as usual these workers are probably waaay too busy running about to wash their hands etcMany people I have spoken to remain ignorant and call it just the flu being sensationalised have you been there Others are nonchalantSoon these countries are going to be sitting in dire situations with many of their population sick or dying There will probably be rioting and looting andgovernment officials will be pointing fingers at each other while they are all quarantined with their squads of personal bodyguards|0 Thanks It doesnt compare to people working in the health services they are the real grafters Its just so frustrating to see people buying meaningless stuff when they could be at home protecting themselves and others We sell nothing essential|0 I live directly under a flight path a few miles from a major airport The lack of planes has been eerie On a normal Saturday they fly over our house every 27 minutes and drown out any conversation we have outside Lately its been only 1 or 2 per hour Strangely quiet Reminds me of post 911 airspace|0 Ahan Seems that French girl liked my smell|1 Have ADHD here diagnosed in my mid twenties after a few years of struggling Been on meds but also have coping strategies that have got me pretty farI still smoke but Ive kicked another habit that required a fair bit of discipline and soulsearching Id pick up a book on CBT its a pretty good way of establishing tools for managing your life Its definitely made me look at some areas ie avoidance that Ive struggled withOtherwise I rely on todo lists and notes I essentially live my life by lists and I nearly always have a notepad and some coloured pens on me Not sure why but colour coded lists seem to work pretty wellProductivity wise to do lists seem to work well with the pomodoro technique essentially work in blocks of X minutes It goes some way to maintaining my attention whilst also allowing the lists to help me visualise what I need to do and how much progress Im makingAnother one is routine I was often late to places or prone to stressing out when I couldnt find stuff Knowing roughly how long things goes some way to helping as does making getting in to the habit of placing things in the same place keys and headphones bedside table coats behind the door passport and documents in my desk drawer|1 Pretty sure that wasnt the intent of those making the just the flu comment Just the Spanish flu is an oxymoron|0 Absolutely This is how it spreads and a great example of selfishness|1 As someone who installs interior and exterior door regularly the weatherstripping is not air tight Nothing truly air tight can be used around windows and trim because it would cut off the oxygen supply to the home Its the same reason why you cant suffocate yourself with the windows rolled up in your car|0 All of the advice on that page is good except seek medical attention early You should only seek medical attention if your symptoms are severe Else you are risking spreading it further in hospital settings Or if you dont have corona and its just flu you risk picking up corona when you go to the hospital|0 Ill get over Americans eating pigs when they stop pointing their finger at Chinese eating bats All world hunger programs are entirely vegan because it is the cheapest to produce Nobody is feeding poor starving people with bacon Think about it how is growing crops to feed animals to feed humans more efficient than just growing crops to feed humansThe only reason why meat is affordable in America is because of government subsidies So now everybody gets to eat like a king And everybody gets to have a waist size of a king too 80 of the crops we grow are fed to the animals we eat 90 of rain forest destruction goes to animal agriculture The longest living people in America dont eat meat Just google blue zone Loma Linda I could go on and on but Im headed in the emergency room to go work my 13th day in a row Go Vegan or STFU|0 His nice Australian neighbor in the cabin next door was taken off the ship yesterday diagnosed with 2019nCoV Im not sure it would prove that the virus is transmitted through the ventilation system if the husband and wife do get it but if they do not come down with the virus it will be a decent datapointThey seem so happy calm and optimistic Im really rooting for that couple|1 We live in a young adult novel|1 This is an example of bad economics for sureDrug addicts are rats and will spread the coronavirus based on an article about how red states are starting to agree injection centers are a reasonable way to help treat the opiate crisis Right|0 We need to close the whole US border Close all the airports Then start implementing lots of little quarantine zones so that the whole country doesnt get infected If we do that now there will be lots of smaller towns and cities that will be 100 virus free Those places will be key to providing support to the infected areasWe can allow some cargo stuff through the borders|1 I mean if you live in the country with few people I dont see how walking around on dirt roads is going to hurt you Are corona virus particles just floating around in the air everywhere like nuclear fallout now|0 Are you calling multiple US intelligence agencies crazy The fact of foreign active measures including bots has been well documented since at least 2015|1 youre saying antibiotic for virus pretty much confirms to me that you dont know what youre talking about|1 Morality during a time of global crisis is whyHeres the thing were not getting more masks the supply chain has been severely disrupted they are now a largely finite good for the foreseeable future I have a few in my garage with zero chance of getting anymore I wish I had bought new ones a month ago but hindsight is 2020 If someone wanted to buy one off of me now then yes theyd have to pay an arm and a leg because I know Im not getting any more myself Point is leave them at the regular price for any length of time and theyll still vanish actually thats already happened This isnt morality if you had your way youd virtue signal and keep the prices artificially low and youd still cause a shortage If there were masks on the shelf at their original price then Id buy some but the current price now reflects their current availability and so I am going to pass on buying more and make what I do have last|1 Cant drop a ball you never picked up CDC tapping forehead|1 For many people it will now be impossible to ignore|0 I read the US denied the test kits from WHO a while ago and the ones the US developed were flawed Now you have a ton of infected Americans going around infecting other peopleEg The first case in Costa Rica was from an American|0 Was there a pandemic a consumption slowdown a Chinese and many countries lockdown an airsea travel slowdown an economic bubble bursting etc all at the same timeTheres a reason most oil analysts are classifying this as the worst catastrophe in the oil sector since the first Iraq warBut I guess were still at the its just a flu level oil version Well see the fallouts clearly in couple months but that would be too late|0 Many Canadian companies are instituting wfh policies and the Ontario government mandated no school for the next three weeks We are also testing people and have drive thru testing capabilities Full border bans take a bit more consideration I imagine but itll happen sooner rather than later|0 No I wouldnt worry about that It would never survive such a long way over the ocean Most likely her son in law infected her while she was sick It doesnt say what she had on the 22nd only that she was diagnosed with pneumonia in february|0 You think that this decision is bad How|0 Brilliant work thanks it illustrates exactly why so much effort is going on in China to slow its spread Even if it is not a model of the real world it could be used to judge whether the real world was behaving worse or better than the model at specific points along the epidemic I would love to see the UK added to the model as I presume many other countries would Italy Iran etc|1 Its not illegal not exactly Its unethical under normal circumstances|1 I dont know about young adults but in the few studies done so far positive children have appeared well even with high viral load However people aged 1549 still take up a large iirc somewhere around 4050 percentage of icu beds Theyre much more likely to survive than older folks if given icu resources which I think has given way too many young people false confidenceBecause ultimately it doesnt matter if you would easily survive with intensive care if you cant get intensive careThere arent going to be nearly enough icu beds young people are certainly going to die in far greater numbers than expected|1 Its unrealistic to assume that the vaccine will save your loved ones Like if they dont get it they will die and if they do theyll survive Thats not what were facing Theyre likely to survive anyway and getting a rushed out vaccine might actually hurt them the swine flu vaccine caused many cases of narcolepsy And a vaccine does nothing to prevent unfolding chaos around you So its more like will you spend an undefined amount of precious money the stuff you use to ensure a safe future for your family including buying food and other necessities to get a vaccine that probably wont make a difference but might hurt you|0 bad|0 I think you have gotten a bit confused here I was having a conversation with someone else Your comment is out of context Have a nice life|1 The fact this guy has zero comment history on Korean and claims heshe used to work as a translator while being patently wrong good god there is enough misinformation as is|0 Ehm in your deleted comment you wrote that I wanted to have people in jail that pass the virus Which I never saidSo far I also edited my first comment to add the last sentence but didnt change anything elseAnd again its nice that you love your right to assemble But dont worry your government will most probably be able to scrap that beloved right |1 I think thats a POPULAR opinion Im with ya|1 Age and lee existing conditions are the two biggest factors F you have two seventy year olds and one has COPD but one is otherwise healthy the second one gets the bent and the first one has to fight it out If you have one vent the above mentioned seventy year olds and then a 30 year old in otherwise good health you pull it from the first seventy year old and give it to the thirty year oldIf the 30 year old is morbidly obese and a two pack a day smoker but the 70 year old is showing improvement you may leave it with the 70 ear old Age is probably the largest part by not necessarily the largest Humans arent machines Some people are just healthier or more resistant to certain things than othersThere is an ethics board in every healthcare system in the US that has emergency plans in place with guidelines for these situations and the authority to review everything on a case by case basis|1 entire boomer leadershipsigh nothing like angry ageism snowflake|1 Checking in here I lost my job haha|1 Sure thing Except everything will probably still be shut|1 Nobody cares whos fault it is deal with the situation you orange fuck|0 An extra few weeks in quarantine is not good for people|0 Flattening the curve is BS based on the idea that the situation can still be brought under control It cant As will be apparent in 2 weeks whether or not young people have been forced to forego wages in that time period or not The transmission profile of this virus makes containment impossible The lack of anything other than palliative therapies right now means that the critically ill are pretty much doomed however many nurses you have on hand to repeatedly resuscitate from your successful curve flattening|0 Live longer yes but still not cured of it A HIV victim is still impacted and needing drugs for the rest of their lives and paying God knows how much for them in order to live|1 Lick them for luck|1 Is he really Thats such an dick move|0 We allready did that it failed Plus Id rather not go with the crab mentality of raising everyones taxes Lets lower them instead so we can afford more|0 That kind of hoarding and survivalist mindset is more dangerous than the virus itself Its somewhat understandable why a lot of media is keeping the virus under the ropes If you are not aware of it by now youre far more likely to be uneducated and irrational in your decisions A mass shortage of important drugs foodwater and masks because of terror is going to cause more transmission due to mask shortage and supplies needing to be sought outcausing more contact I have a gun so that I can protect my family A guns not going to stop the virus Society isnt going to be pure anarchy TB is for example one of the most terrifying and highly transmissible diseases in the world with a quarter of the population affected and 13rd back in the day We havent heard of any civilizations coming crashing even with a fatality as high as 60 Its a scary new virus but it doesnt mean we can just jump the gun and go all out I AM LEGEND|0 damn son|0 They are misusing the term herd immunity What they are really adopting is a letthefireburn strategy that accepts massive death rates because they dont want to fight the virus and dont want extended economic impacts So the moneyoverpeople approach|0 What are you really trying to do huh You need to dont know remove them On the floor you have to remove them Sounds like the hospital is getting overwhelmed Hes probably trying to get patients transferred to other hospitals because they no longer have any beds or capacity for new cases|1 only hope they can do at least as good as South Korea|1 I think the NYT means The scummy fucking profiteer who got caught red handed was coerced by the Tennessee DA to donate his surplus|0 Give them my congrats and my best wishes|1 Thank you|1 but not Trump oh nooooooo nooooo not himdespite what i think of his lack of action of late i hope he is safeso that it turns out he didnt infect anyone else beforehandjerk|1 Had a bunch of friends coming into town to stay with me in Chicago this weekend all but the one who bought a plane ticket has now backed out Homie with a plane ticket is probably still coming but I think were just gonna party at my buddys house Shits crazy out here|0 If your loved one wasnt willing to put themselves at risk to help their fellow Americans they shouldnt have signed up|1 Thats good news thanks for the info|1 Someone I work with told me she was visiting her 85 year old MIL who has high blood pressure and diabetes with her 2 daughters one of which only had the sniffles I tried to explain how its not worth the risk but she seemed annoyed I even pointed it out|0 ICU nurses are concerned Our doctors as well Right now were already being overwhelmed by flu A|0 What are your thoughts regarding a wall that could be built to secure a countrys border if design of the wall is actually effective Trumps wall was painted as racist by the left Do you agree This is obviously a political question and I hate to come in here butting heads but I relate the question back to the topic of coronavirus in that I would feel a heck of lot better if there were a wall along the southern border should occur an outbreak in Mexico Central or South America Does the wall sound so bad now The US cant close that border Its wide open Been wide open|0 and people will decide to still not get it Hey if you want to drive to my apartment and give me a the vaccine for free every year go for it but Ive got better stuff to do than go sit at a minute clinic or a doctors office for an hour or two and spend my money out of pocket on a shot that Ive not needed in 34 years of life|1 It sounds more like bureaucrats following bureaucratic rules Back in 2014 the CDC told a nurse with a fever that attended to Ebola patients that she was okay to fly simply because her fever wasnt quite high enough according to their parameters at the time|1 Dont worry theyre not immune And politicians and lobbyists tend to be extra extraverted|1 I always knew I loved taco bell|1 No sir I didnt see you playing with your dolls again|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Or you recover like hundreds of other people|1 kinda not misleading title considering that is exactly how he feels if you have an issue with it perhaps contact the Dr and tell him he is being overlydramatic I am so sick and tired of people like you trying to downplay the severity of this|0 I called my local CA health department yesterday It was a solid NO to testing unless you are hospitalized with pneumonia So dont get your hopes up|0 UK be like The only thing we can do is not to act|1 I live in Singapore and I can tell you that our number is pretty close to the actual number cos the government is updating it daily along with information on where the infected cases have been and areas where they live httpswwwmohgovsgcovid19 Of the 50 cases 8 are in critical condition warded in ICU 35 are in regular isolation wards mostly in stable or improving conditions and 15 have fully recovered and dischargedWhereas for China this video may give some insight httpsyoutubeY1wQmvvzyG4Its a recording by medical staff in Wuhan ranting to each other without revealing their faces of course and around 140 of the video they mention that the government only allow a specific number of testers a day and only to inpatients and not to outpatients So even if the doctorsnurses are sure the outpatients coming in do have the virus if they arent able to ward them then the hospitals will not be allowed to have the patients undergo the tests at all and thus not be able to formally diagnose them and theyll just be told they are suspected cases and thus not be added to the infected numbersThe video also combines other clips by other brave Chinese netizens who are risking their lives to reveal the truth Theres a clip in which CCP police are at the door of the apartment of someone and demanding them to take down their posts and also to post a new post that their previous posts were untrue otherwise they will have to arrest them Its really horrible There was one guy who did get arrested but he had quickly posted more videos online before he got arrested and when his videos managed to gain global attention he got released|0 LOL what No 20 percent time is used for projects within their skillset that they think can expand company products or services This time isnt used to become astrophysicists or world class bioengineers or epidemiologists If you were given every Friday to work in your own projects within the scope of your companys area of expertise would you be able to cure cancer|0 Same here in Mexico Wish I bought insurance for my flight|1 The Cheek kissing thing is a huge factor in the Italian outbreak|1 The complacency is astonishingEdit to add Public health messaging has been adequate However unless the diagnostic numbers increase to reflect the likely reality of more widespread cases most people will remain incredulousin denial that this is significant in Western Canada in particular|1 Yes|1 tyuvvdgzkp Do you eat rice and beans all the time I dont Ive bought what we normally eat My freezers are full of steak chicken seafood frozen pizzas canned and frozen veggies I bought the soups we enjoy plenty of TP soap and dont forget food for your pets I realize i am in a better place then most i have disposal money tang God I just dont want to have to go to the store weekly and have to eat whatever still on the shelf All the best to you|1 Oh good response|1 Itll still make a difference If someone sneezes and they have a mask on whatever they sneeze out is going to be reduced Also its less likely to get into your mouth if someone sneezes around you and you have a mask on Of course theyre not foolproof but better than nothing|0 Thanks I will try too in my free time|1 Wow You need a break from Starbucks and MSNBC|1 Are we still happy we elected a reality TV game show host|1 Im a senior undergraduate student in biochemistry whos been told to stay home from my lab job due to virus concerns Im choosing to take that time to trawl through recent publications on 2019nCoV and compiling a little factsheet with information on what a virus is the way it infects cells effective sanitation methods why not to buy all the masks before doctors can use them etcIm just an undergrad and I want to make sure what I have is accurate I plan to distribute it in my local community since Ive realized that sort of biological knowledge really isnt common my dad has a PhD in engineering and I had to give him a crash course this weekend on why viruses and bacteria arent the same thingIs there an expert out there who would be willing to read over a couple pages once Im done Theres so much misinformation and fear in the world and I dont want to contribute to it Im planning to do a factsheet every few days as long as I find time between my own research assignmentsAlso if anyone has any helpful papers they think I should read please let me know|1 This is beautiful|1 Bless you|1 And what country is that Italia Edit I retract that statement as Italian cheeses are the shit Hmmm Spain|1 For what its worth young people often die of influenza and other illnesses too We dont know if theyre immunocompromised have other conditions or are just plain unlucky Every bit of clinical evidence and data Ive seen shows that the majority of deaths are occurring in the 70 age group There will be outliers no doubt but that doesnt mean younger people are at high risk|0 These officials are idiots Theyre going to lie about the numbers to get people back to work but thats just going to increase the amount of cases drastically|1 Poland may be smart country but the goverment isnt|1 The age pyramid in Italy is far more skewed older 65 in Italy is 22 vs 14 in South Korea and 13 in the United States Tourismwise this hit at the very bottom of the US season|1 I main singed and will stop playing him for as long as the outbreak lasts Thats pretty much all I can do|1 Id say an additional 4 weeks to get ready would have not been unnecessary|1 They were too busy smearing hong kong protest movement or defending their Uyghur concentration camps cos priorities|0 The amount of Its not even as bad as the flu Ive heard is depressing|0 Its just not the USA I wouldnt travel to Asia period Some countries are not reporting the virus infections orrectly for whatever reason Three countries have reported citizens infected with coronavirus that only traveled to the Philippines|0 The point of social distancing isnt to achieve total isolation Its to reduce the amount of contact with different people Eliminating just 50 makes a big difference and eliminating 75 brings us close to the point where we wont overwhelm the healthcare systemNote that the people you meet at work are mostly the same people day after day Thats a much better situation than going clubbing where presumably you interact with a lot more different people and theyre different from day to day|1 There is no evidence to suggest it isnt but cute of you to subscribe to conspiracy theories|0 Nylon and PET are hygroscopic and so the high moisture environment may affect the structural integrity of the component|1 I JUST ordered a long ethernet cable because I have to do classes online where professors are livestreaming their lecture I hope that still arrives as its pretty important My wifi sucks|1 1st report of the virus i saw in English was dated 02 January 2020 Radio Free Asiahttpswwwrfaorgenglishnewschinaoutbreakwuhan01022020190644html|1 Same thing here Lets hope there is some communication between departments and consistency soon|1 I dont want to sound harsh but perhaps we need more death for eyes to open|0 that doesnt factor in their rich person healthcareIm sure they have a full list of organ donors lined up if they need anything|1 History has already had its darkest hour Lets try to be a little better Those are people Parents sisters brothers grandparents What if your mother or father was on that boat Would you really just leave them floating off the coast of whats supposed to be one of the most advanced counties in the world|1 Anyone making huge profits off of manufacturing lifesaving medications and devices should be strung up a tree like the poor people of America left for dead because of their economic standing Nobody should go bankrupt due to healthcare|0 I dont hope for anyones death Pope included I just wish people would wake the fuck up Unfortunately the average person is so stuck in their ways that someone major has to be negatively impacted before they start to pay any attention at all The more important the person the more quickly the mass of sheep start to open their eyes It didnt even have to be death the pope being sick was simply the catalyst that started the whole pope thing Ie 99 of Americans didnt care one bit about this virus until it shut down the NBA basketball literally overnight half the fucking United states were now panicking and starting to make a run on grocery stores ect like a light switch flipping from 100000 people worried to 200000000Its downplayed so much by mainstream media that I just needed something ANYTHING to happen to make people realize the longer they wait the more people will die The pope was simply the item available at the time but were where we are at now and any time saving and saving of peoples lives are long gone now Plus weve got the basketball thing that happened anyway so its all good Pope is fine He couldve helped before but Dont need him anymore Thanks for the response and explanation though |0 Yeah I watched as any staff including custodial gowned in and out of patent rooms until they had a definitive panel on a patients sickness ICU patents are not allowed to go out of their room without assistance No patient bathrooms on the floor either You either get a bed pan or commode next to your bed That place saved my life when I had severe sepsis and ARDS from necrotizing pneumonia I feel bad for any of the staff there that I met who are dealing with this pandemic but theyre some of the best in the world|1 Mouth temp Today I feel better now|1 Martial Law The President has the authority to use the military and suspend basic rights to keep the republic going But first we can do it at the local level with National Guard and the Governor in control Just my basic understanding My goal is just to get people to stop spreading it Every other outbreak country has had to lockdown because of this virus|0 I dont live in America Im talking for the people who are joking about these death numbers I personally am rather horrified as I live in Canada where we have more accurate infected numbers and theyve been rising at a fair rate for the past bit|0 I was doing some morbid joking with a friend about buying a plague doctor suit I sorta stopped cocked my head and went huh you know what They generally wore gloves long cloaks and full face masks in the shape of a birds head If one were to add a filtered air intake to the mask you would have a nice positive pressure full face maskPlague doctors were wearing the equivilent of medieval biohazard gear even if they were wearing it for the completely wrong reasons|1 Yes except to work I feel fine|1 Lmao everyone in this sub over reacting to this virus|1 I dont care who they are or who put them there I care that the highest authority on this topic in this country and among the highest in the world is in my opinion doing no better than the administration To say oh this group should be in charge over another when all groups are equally lax is laughable to me This is not about politics for me|0 This measure will effectively shut down all unecessary businesses since the activity will slow down drastically|1 AMERICA IS TOO PROUD TO HAVE AN EPIDEMIC THAT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL|1 Youre so full of shit Its best for all of us that as many of us who can continue to work do so we play this wrong and send millions into poverty and set us back as a civilziation by a decade x200BThere is a big difference between going to work and working with distance between you than jamming into a bar with zero distance|0 If you get Coronavirus and live you may lose weight from shitting your brains out|0 Im pissed My life was just getting good|0 Probably people who make under 100kyear or 75kyear people above that should have some savings and are probably higher educated than the poorer class They should also suspend all student loan payments while this is raging on For a lot of people with student loans that would probably help tremendouslymore money to spend on necessities|0 Has the virus spread around the world yeah Of course its a pandemic|1 Im sorry to hear that Where are you|0 People dont get sick on weekends duh|1 Im curious do you have a source for it Can only hope its because they have way more suspicious people than test kits so that maybe itll change once they recievemade more kits|1 You are probably correct Unfortunately some people dont deal with truth in a positive way Follow your intuition and instincts If you think its wrong for you and yours then do something Be positive|1 Yeah to be honest Im not that concerned for myself Im more concerned for my parents who are in their 60s Tough situation Manhattan just had its first confirmed case|1 I dont go to Starbucks because I like coffee I go there because I need caffeine and its right there|1 It takes a few extra days for a person to realize it may be something more than a cold There is also a delay in testing Wuhan numbers started to level off more than 10 days after lockdown|0 What is under 60 rate for the flu|0 Yes even though Im sad about these precautions I can fully understand them I live in Denmark but my fathers family are Norwegian Havent been able to visit Norway since January 19 because of economics Saved up for the travel and were supposed to visit my family next weekendI dont think Ive fully understood it yet but that trip has now understandably been cancelled|1 We are a country governed by a bunch of psychopaths who are hell bent on playing mind games with the public via their controlled mediaSurprising how the BBC which was being threatened with defunding is at the centre of all this charade It now has a new lease on life After this crisis is over all will be forgiven|0 My friend works in medical supply and China customs are stealing any medical products they can find|0 Of course my friends can have influence where trillions go Its the scientific community working hand in hand with the executive powersHow else do you think are we going to win this warBy the virtue of a single manReeks of FhrerkultGates is intelligent but nave He has only superficial knowledge about politics science and a plethora of intellectual topics|1 If you can slow it down enough and flatten the curve so the same number of people get infected but over a much longer period of time then what youre allowing is that the capacity will not be exceeded said Dr Anand Kumar a critical care physician at Winnipegs Health Science CentreThere is no amount of slowing that keeps it within the capacity of our system Italy locked down Lombardy when they had only 5000 cases in a region of 10 millionWe need to bend the curve down to zero like South Korea is doing not only flatten it This is critically important Otherwise we will end up just like Italy but slightly laterEdit Softened language a little|1 You got underlying generalized anxiety and now you got something to attach it to which just makes it worse Once this passes youll feel good a short while and then youll find something else to worry about You are not alone in this|0 CDC reports 3 dont they I see 37 all over reddit and R0 24 too Both cannot be true x200BAnd the slow start thing was relevant last month 95 days have passed|0 I can believe that Id hate to be a teacher these days You must have some serious patience to cope with teenagers every day of the week|0 Its too late They have only tested around 500 nearly half the ship is already infected R0 is 30 my ass The only reliable large scale transmission statistics we have are from this ship Outbreaks elsewhere are too small and scattered and numbers from China fabricated|0 China can treat 22000 patients as of Feb 20ishTake a look at deaths in Italy instead their capacity is about the same as ours Italy 120 Ontario 90They started having large deaths on a daily basis once they went over capacity|1 You have a right to refuse dangerous work|0 People in here always root for doom|0 The majority of the public will have to comply whether its a federal state or city order for a quarantine during a public health emergency those things called individual rights go away No one would be stupid enough to try to shoot their way out of a quarantine when they seal off an area youre outnumbered and yes they have bigger guns Leave first or stay The gun argument makes the most sense in a situation where law and order could break down|0 The problem here is patient privacy laws prevent us from seeing inside the hospitals The people still asleep arent going to wake up until they see footage of overwhelmed hospitals I|0 They will use federal money to treat them|1 man deserves a medal|1 She explained it in her comment It was the start of the day no patients yet Give her a break Shes doing great work|1 in the grand scheme of things it aint exactly young either|1 Easier said than done Chinese people are quite an obedient bunch unless us Americans|1 It is also called Normalcy Bias My whole family is displaying this behaviour They are bring our 90 year old grandmother to Toronto as to celebrate her 90th birthday in two weeks A good chunk of the family sans me and partner will be in attendance which includes people from all over Toronto and suburbs and from all demographics I warned them they do not believe this is bad they think it to be mildly worse than the flu I assume this has changed a bit with Italy going nuts Because they keep hearing that 80 will have mild symptoms They wash their hands and are a bit concerned but have done little to change their routine It is their routine that keeps changing around them so they are taking a completly reactive approach Had to argue so they got a bit of extra food Mostly filled bythe first Panic Saturday at Costco Even asked the Sis if she had talked to her kids and family as of what to do if one gets sick Nothing Wait there is more Elderly parents already booked a vacation Even though I told them 4 weeks ago that travelling would become hazardous and even dangerous for people with preexisting conditions They leave at the beginning of next month So either they all get sick at some point some possibly die or they lose a lot of money once flights get cancelled Do not be like my family Tons of unnecessary risk because they are too busy with their lives to step back and look at the bigger picture They think everything is just going to stay the same somehow during the worst pandemic in a 100 years Thats normalcy bias|0 Oh boy I do and its always horrible|0 Id be confident in saying at 368 deaths per day this is probably killing more people daily in Italy than the flu I cant find any numbers though to check this|0 You are about a month behind on your info there buddy httpseditioncnncom20200130healthcoronaviruswhopublichealthemergencyinternationalconcerndeclarationindexhtmlhttpseditioncnncom20200130healthcoronaviruswhopublichealthemergencyinternationalconcerndeclarationindexhtml January 30 2020 The World Health Organization has declared the novel coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency of international concern after an emergency committee reconvened Thursday in Geneva|0 My goggles are these 1920 swim goggles that Im sure will need to be reinforced with duct tape so it could be much much worse than the kiddos swimming goggles|0 Two entire NBA teams and celebrities on demand|0 Yes hes a fuck tard And Fox News is programming people into believing him|0 They having withdrawal from raping kids|0 Im here too I really was hoping wed have more time|1 Its too bad hand sanitizer doesnt kill noro and most people use it incorrectly you are supposed to keep rubbing it in until fully dry|1 Thanks to Trump 14 infected DP passengers were flown to the US with uninfected people Some of the infected were sitting without masks with the uninfected On the 5 hour trip by bus to the airport ALL the infected were sitting among the uninfectedTrump is a ignorant POS who thinks only of photos ops The coming pandemic is under his watch|0 What a huge contrast from the current pres|1 Thanks I really appreciate the hard work you are putting in|1 This is my rough go to from a few years in a microbiology lab Wash thoroughly including between fingers and rotate finger nails into palms Then sanitize with alcohol or a sufficiently alcohol concentrated hand sanitizer|1 how are you sure that it looks to be around anything|1 Oh its not just the masks trust me But you would expect to see at least an increase in the number of people wearing them Especially in very crowded places I have not seen anyone do anything differently At work not a single person washes their hands during the day any more than normal Nobody sanitizes anything or wipes things down Gyms are packed Stores are packed People dine out at restaurants|1 Its been a bad flu season Extremely possible likely that some of those werent the seasonal flu|0 You might have to go state by state which is extremely inconvenient Here is NY state httpswww1nycgovsitedohhealthhealthtopicscoronaviruspagehttpswww1nycgovsitedohhealthhealthtopicscoronaviruspage Also I believe some academic hospitals are able to do their own tests now Im not sure though|0 Im exposed to 2000 people MondayFriday I stock a amazon fcs break areas|1 Would agree if the public health officials in this case were actually trustworthy and not controlled by a state infamous for lying to its own populace|1 Someone please explain to me how theyve skipped the animal testing phase if you have sources please link them|1 So sick of all the Karens saying that its just like the flu Clearly not People dont understand the severity of this|0 The director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr Anthony Fauci literally testified before Congress yesterday that the mortality rate is 10 times that of the flu Hes on the COVID19 task force for the government You are NOT going nuts|0 I understand I think a lot of people here arent familar with the communities around Seattle though where these cases are Kirkland Bellvue Redmond etc theyre large spreadout exurban type communities with thousands of roads in and out I cant think of any effective way to lock down those areas The best we can hope for is a lot of social distancing school closings event cancellations selfquarantines etc|1 Laughs in USA|1 Dont you think that the authorities would monitor the risk areas Based on my experience with police considering certain areas as risk areas is just racist thinking and they wont do anything about it|0 Some people are too scared to face reality until it is absolutely unavoidable Sometimes reading this sub I feel like Im in a movie Its wild|0 This is shaping up to be the biggest medical and economic challenge our world has faced in generations How could it not affect peoples mental health|1 IMO logically if the number of cases continue to rise exponentially after 15 days then theres no way our government officials could say ok everyone can go back to work now It would lead to a spike in cases and deaths and negate whatever progress was made with the 15 day shutdown Unless the number of cases drastically slows down or a vaccine is somehow approved then the only logical option is to continue the shutdown until either of those things happen I think theyll just keep announcing 2 week shutdowns at a time to reassess the situation biweekly but know for now that this isnt going to end anytime soon|1 I prefer the namaste Seems to be universally recognized theres no touching and you dont have to stand super close together Edit plus I cough into the crook of my elbow so no elbow touching for me|1 I understand that thats why we should be testing thousands government plan to increase testing to 10000 a day soon or at the very least telling people like me to stay home and self isolate|1 To start the US reportedly insisted on coming up with its own test when COVID19 first started to spread even though the World Health Organization had already approved a Germanmade test for global distributionhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwthecutcomamp202003cdccoronavirustestingreportedlyplaguedbyproblemshtml|1 Well if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black|1 Thank you so much |1 15 mortality rate in those over age 70 and it infected 30 in a nursing home 015 30 45 Thats not far off at all|0 How are they handling the deaths Cremation Burial I know there has to be precautions but it seems so sad to have to handle things like that without having a proper funeral etc|0 the odds of getting people out to rural hospitals would seem even lowerMost rural hospitals are pretty limited these days and even more of them have closed due to funding cuts The county hospital in the town of 3000 I used to live in has 6 beds iirc and is staffed with PAs and nurse practitioners Id be surprised if they had a ventilator Everything gets transferred to the big city an hour away with the medical center and when I was pregnant I had to drive an hour and a half to get to a maternity hospital|0 Thank you so much for the data The male to female breakdown is significant Death rate for males was 13 and for females was about 06 with females being a higher infected population by 38 that definitely drives the overall death rate down Regardless of any of that South Korea has done a fantastic job at helping control and cut down infection rates|0 The richest country in the world A country that spends Billions on war and the military Let that sink in for a moment|0 Everyone is entitled to their opinion my bro|1 My point is its not like it will kill him Hell obviously have the top care in the entire world provided to him|0 Hoes mad|0 Theres no vaccine for SARS which is basically a different mutation of the same illness and you become immune to that once you have recovered So|0 it seems clear that if to take an extreme example everybody wore a mask viral transmission would be slowed at the population levelThis is the unproven and point of concern for the general population This idea doesnt take into account potential backfire effects of wearing a mask that if put to the extreme with a healthy population might cause more people to get sickFor instance people wearing face masks touch their face more For sick people this concern is mitigated in that the mask has a greater barrier effect making them overall effective for sick people For those working with sick people theyve got training to mitigate touching their face or they should both generally and when they take masks on and off For the general population we have neitherNow theres no research that I know of that shows that such an effect causes more sickness Im just demonstrating possibility here as my point here is that we cant take a point to the extreme and assume its going to work the same way|0 No its not Its not anyones job to call you and make sure youre still not dead Thats your job as a responsible adult If you start showing symptoms sure call them Until that point these people need to stop acting like children who need help and support and just do it|1 What about during the time people cant go to work due to quarantine and the effect this is going to have on their employers A ton of businesses are already shutting down in China since weve had an easymoney highlyleveraged monetary system since the last economic crisis and no one can repay their shortterm debt obligationsOn an individual level how do you explain how the government is going to compensate for all the missed work due to being on lockdown for weeks if not months Give everyone free cash like South Korean and Hong Kong are doing and inflate our currency even more than we have been Youre dismissing a huge part of the picture by focusing on the epidemiological effects of this virus and not the short and longterm disruptions until we all go back to work and what guarantees that the virus will be sufficiently mitigated by then No one knows and operating under the assumption that our economy will spring right back to normal is disingenuous and frankly asinine|0 Yes but if you are in very close contact side to side in a busy market stall I wouldnt be surprised if droplets entered your mouth nose too if people talk cough sneezed Better to just take precaution if possible|1 The current test is only like 75 accurate anyway just assume you have it and selfisolate|1 There is a chart at the bottom of the page that shows the cumulative number of cases since Feb Does that help|1 You missed the point This isnt about the numberavailability of tests It is about the feds REFUSING to allow tests even when they readily available and could be done immediately The governor was quite clear that he was waiting for federal permission to test it has nothing to do with being backed upThis is the central issue in this the feds control the availability and permission to test They can therefore control the official number of cases and tilt the narrative to the party line of Trump et al Just regular flu No reason for concern Move on to some other topic please|0 imagine how many others like him are out there|1 False It says 1029 are still fighting it|0 Ah right I assumed they were talking about that but wasnt sure Springfield has a positive case now and Amherst has a presumed case|1 Well we ignored it But now the horse is trying to do surgery and people are gonna die|0 Exactly in Europe restaurants malls bars shops etc are closed Even then its a struggle to slow the spreading Your gov is failing you Time is essential I guarantee you will have to pay in lives for this|0 I mean lets be honest we need any reaponse at this point Is anybodies local government reacting yetI agree we need everyone to respond There needs to be some sort of guidance for the local level to communicate to the state and the state to communicate to the federal level or we are going to be a mess|1 Fire department I assume They are often the first responders|0 Welcome|1 Did it account for emergency mechanical ventilator available in some hospitalsI know from the H1N1 pandemic that they bought several respirator in back form the one normaly used I dont know if they still have them nowAlso what is the normal utilization rate of those respirator in spring During flu peak they are probably almost all used and people with chronic respiratory disease also use a proportion of them in normal timePersonally I think the remaining capacity is very low but may more with those possibly in storage|0 But in this case other people who dont partake in this stupidity will pay for their mistakes as well|0 Oh hell definitely try|0 Highly doubtful Once it his the panic will be epic|0 Thousands of people showing up to the hospital needing treatment at the same time will overwhelm any healthcare system public or privateShit our infrastructure cant even support everyone buying toilet paper all at onceMostly a tongueincheek comment I know these are different scenarios and people are excessively hoarding supplies making it harder to keep up However I do think the threat of overwhelming our healthcare system is very real|0 httpswwwcanadacaenpublichealthservicesemergencypreparednessresponsenationalemergencystrategicstockpilehtmlThere is a reserve No idea how big it is though|0 You still have to pay for the test too This only waived the copay If you havent met your deductible youll still be paying nearly the full cost|0 My province went down 9 cases from 3829 in a day Thats the best jump down I could hope for|1 grandpa had a lucid day we all said our goodbyes i hope he remembers us one last time before he goes|1 Got a source on that I would be interested in reading that analysis thanks|1 People in biohazard labs wear gloves though Im just saying putting a bottle cut in half on your head isnt very effective Its good at stopping you from touching your face but thats about it|0 Not me as a person but my country as a society Outside of grannies and grandpas I barely ever see anyone paying in cash here nowadays The last time I handled cash was to help out a friend who needed a quick loan|1 There are definitely some possibilities The testing kit which supposedly has 99 accuracy and 24 hour results would be a huge advance if mass production is possible Well have a better handle on what were actually dealing with if the cdc delivers China appears to be having success with their medicine regimine Still a huge amount of ground to cover but a significant breakthrough is always possible Im not super optimistic but there are some bright spots out there If we get serious about tackling the problem we might be able to handle it without turning into a full on epic catastrophe at leastThe more time we can buy the better chance of a vaccine and we have better tools for working out the details of a solutionWell see|1 Authoritarian government and dictatorships are different I invite you to visit and check out the place for itself like the real Singapore not the touristy Crazy Rich Asians stuffI may not have lived in China but I have studied their governance model and Ive also made multiple visits Id say the approach is very differentSingapore isnt perfect and not everyone thrives here But some of things we do have shouldnt be taken for granted safety we can walk home in the middle of the night and not worry healthcare housing expensive but most of us do have a good roof over our heads etc Things that come by with good governance not dictatorshipsMy point is calling the SG government a dictatorship is inaccurate Like you said its about personal experience Out of curiosity what authoritarian governments have you lived under|1 Me either Food water I can kinda understand but whats a clean ass on an empty stomach |0 The particle is but a lot of this is spread in spit droplets expelled by coughs and sneezes An N95 mask will provide decent protection A lot better than nothing Even better if everyone wears masks so the coughersneezer doesnt eject a bunch of droplets and by the noninfected person so the spit droplet doesnt get in the mask|1 Mexico City is currently hosting a 400k attendee music festival|1 Chiropractors dont believe in proper science or medicine so I am not surprised Their industry peddles homeopathic therapies for a reason|0 A lot of the US based fast food chains are better overseas|1 Pretty sad that you have to do this The government can immediately start working on setting up tooling to manufacture more if they wanted to surgical masks Im talking about Probably they havent and they wontI thought the same today to give masks to local elderly people But I might need them later and is it my fault that their kids didnt look after their parents I already took care of my own family|1 The coming spring may be the only hope left|1 China already have huge influence in Italy|1 The incense are drawing 1 a minute on top of any regular spawns Its a significantly buffed by the spawn rate and the fact that you can do it from your couch Previous use of incense was more effective while walking On top of that if you play Lets Go The Meltan box is also lasting an hour|1 be sure to get med advice re dosage as this usage is out of labeling|1 This is because of the lack of access to proper preventative care though|1 Bro have you seen Trump at all Have you likeheard him speak Its not Republican vs Democrat Its smart people against the Cheeto in Chief|1 So how exactly would her son get treatment if he was turning blueFirst off thats not what happened More importantly If someone is unable to breathe they can still be treated at a hospital Hospitals treat people for asthma and other condition not just coronavirus Youre talking about bringing him down to the emergency room and lying about his symptoms to get a different course of treatment than the doctor recommends That doesnt sound idealAlso getting a test also specifically means one less test available for someone else Thats why a neutral party does the triaging|1 As long as there is a businessman who is willing to quote a cheaper price and then skimp on materials or testing or safety there will continue to be these frauds Or unless the penalties are made much more harsh|0 In my view in a situation like this its probably better to get as much access to cash as possible And if you end up not needing it the interest is probably not that much especially with the low interest rates these days and its probably more likely that you would need itI havent looked into detail about it though and I dont know how if you can apply now for a certain amount and then apply later for some more|1 Just talked to a guy said hed been there since midnight and they couldnt keep up Wasnt doomsday buying just grabbin some hot sauce|1 We have plenty of respirators to go around Its countries with socialized healthcare that could use theseDownvoting doesnt remove respirators You can hate the truth all you want you dont have to like that our system works|0 Its not smart for one reason and wont be implemented in America for anotherThe amount of time SARSCOV2 can remain infectuious on surfaces and the foot traffic grocery stores recieve would make effectively implementing this as a solution near impossible as it would be unrealistic to expect minimum wage employees to properly disinfect all the merchandise in a store and all surfaces once a dayIt might not be implemented in America because its treading close to age discrimination|1 My moms cousin lives near the heavily infected area and everyone there is freaking out She and her kids are under selfquarantine and she briefly thought about packing them up and taking them to her parents house in Prague but she decided against going because her parents are elderly and frail and she didnt want to accidentally infect them But she is now worried she is going to lose her house since she cant go to her job And her two oldest are traveling around the world and cant get back home now|0 Omg Is that what happened I remember switching to chinaflu in disgust then running back about a week afterwards Seems like eons ago|0 Yeah dude Singapore is dope Extra special shout out to the four floors|1 I dont know what the fuck to do I cant lose my job in the restaurant industry or Im gonna be homeless right quick Dbag doesnt pay us proper and I have to investigate that Like Im 100 dependent on Los Angeles shutting shit down before Im exposed|0 My late grandfather took shrapnel in the ass in Normandy and now Berlin is justifiably condemning Washington Thanks OP I was missing him earlier today and now Im actually happy for him that hes not alive to see this|1 What are you rambling about This pandemics handling has nothing to do with racism|0 Less deadly options than an embargo a puppet government the breaking up the state and then a marshal plan to repair the undoubtedly bombed out cities when the Chinese naturally resisted Which is what that guy proposed That option would be ww3 and hundreds of millions dead|0 Why wouldnt they get testedTheir last game was against a team that has four players infected|0 They never say what condition though do they Could have been something incredibly minor for all we know Welcome to our uncertain fate people|1 Well that comment doesnt make any sense at all Do you mean that his nonprofit received 25 mil in donations Do you have any source to show that he personally profited|1 Could this explain those people dropping dead videos|0 Thank you for posting this My gaming rig is now foldinghome|1 I live in NYC and was just at the laundromat listening to the news it seems like most of the cases are in New Rochelle which is outside NYC but I think the cases within Manhattan are just starting to pick up That said your vacation is in April so Id say see if you can get any money back for the trip or the hotels if you cancel now If you can do that and save yourself the money you can and come another time If you cant get any money back you can always just wait and see how things are in April and decide then|1 WE BUILT A WALL AND MADE USA PAY FOR IT THANKS FOR THE WALL SUCKERS mexico probably|0 Wetsoiled masks can easily be ineffective and cause a contagion passage If you need an alternative while masks are outsold consider the historical use of a scarflike mask Our forefathers used them for years until the upgrades to modern day masks with respirators|0 Yes their response is legendary hope it proves good for them|1 He bullheadedly refused prompt medical treatment backed by science and opted instead for an all fruit diet during the window of time when he could have been cured from a usually treatable form of cancerThat was operator error not lack of resourcesAlso cancer is quite different from infectious disease|0 Thats true I remember the Swine Flu outbreak and the first thing I did when I read news of the Coronavirus was to associate both|1 I met one nice CBP guy in JFK once I handed in our passports and he asks a question I reply with Yup He tells me that is how all real Americans reply yup as opposed to yes It was kinda funny|1 i can agree the beijing part but not shanghai i live in shanghai|1 SpendTheMoneyNOW rather than pay more later with money AND livesI also love how the anchor GENUINELY thanked and appreciated Dr Jhas time and words|1 I work for a car dealership as well nothing has changed We have one employee out because hes being tested for COVID19 I happened to be in direct contact with him 5 days ago They said I can go home if I want and use my vacation time but theyre not paying beyond that So here I am|1 Im really interested in finding out what the factors are in an otherwise healthy individual getting so very ill from COVID19 vs those who barely knows they are sick|0 No your first sentence isnt true Quarantine has a major impact It definitely reduces transmission rates within the quarantine zones|0 Ive had this thought Its a fucked up and horrible reality|0 Thank you|1 What the fuck|0 I would be more worried about the airport and plane than about Jamaica itself but I also wouldnt want to be stuck in Jamaica if something went wrong|0 Yeah the WC in Qatar is just a joke Not only are they more or less admitting to be corrupt with this ridiculous choice but they also show that the do not even want to pretend to care about human rights|1 The providence of British Columbia has tested more people than the entire United States They are doing more than us and are way smaller|1 Yea pretty much this While i think that a mortality rate in actuality of infected may be even closer to 1 or under considering am how many mild and asymptomatic infections there are among a younger crowd Im worried for my grandparents and specifically my fiances mom who has a sortve mild fibrosis in her lungs already i dont know what it is exactly but its harder for her to breathe and she will eventually die from it whether its 5 years or 20 they arent sure but if she gets this Im prepared for the worst|0 Its insane that the government has to ask nicely for employers to comply with this overly polite request This should be mandated by law it should not be an option for employers to either explicitly pressure sick people to come in or to not give them sick pay so they are forced to choose between being able to pay rent or staying in bed How the fuck is this normal|0 biotech startups claim a lot of things and not sure what the track record of allegedly Rwandas leading daily newspaper but could just be BS fakenews site But I wouldnt hold my breath on this report|0 The term outside world gets tricky with big families though|0 What about Poland Its strange when all neighbor countries are infected while it Poland is not isnt it|0 Problem is that 50 deaths from the virus could go totally unnoticed unless they were all in the same hospital or a small group of local hospitals hidden among the normal 2000 deaths per weekAll those people should be tested if the cause of the pneumiona cant be traced to a known cause like influenza or bacteria|0 Yes that is one theory|1 to sacrifice a tiny portion of your net worth toHes worth more than he could possibly spend in 100 lifetimes He could actually make the world a better place and he chooses not to I was mentioning on another sub that I had a friend become a billionaire and immediately became pathological Like overnight Their club is a terrible one There should be NO billionaires at this time in history What they do to the rest of us to protect their assets are crimes against humanity|1 That study looks to be for aerosolized spread of influenza As far as I know its not clear if coronavirus spreads in aerosolized form|0 Thats what I guessed as well|1 Fair enough|1 rememberthose people that roll their eyes and dont take these things seriously will be the FIRST PEOPLE to flip their shit and panic beyond anything you have EVER seen|0 Same here Im in a state thats not as affected just yet so I think theyre reticent to move the whole staff to WFH but theyre going to reevaluate after this week|1 Buckle up folksThats over 1000 by Sunday2000 by Wednesday 4000 by next Sunday if not beforeThen it get super scary super fast|1 Same exact problem here is there a reason for this |0 If I get this correctly does this mean that Spain is growing faster than Italy|1 Yep when equal|1 This is the darkest moment in modern history guys I still cant believe this is our Spanish FluModern history encompasses both the time of Spanish flu and both world wars Knock it off with the hyperbole It helps no one but those who want to scare each other for entertainmentWhich I guess is why its upvoted in this subreddit|0 Unbelievable|1 Im not I definitely enjoy watching the games live but I havent given a shit about team sports in over 20yrs But still love live events We are avoiding crowds at all costs right now|1 I was thinking the same thing Also cant immigration agents see what countries you have been to I thought most countries shared that information when passports are scanned upon entry Ideally all countries should have banned flights from China back in January|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 They should all do this I assume the President could do this by executive order if he actually gave a shit|0 That move is in big bold letters in their playbook Youre surprised|1 Very true I knew I missed something|1 Im Swedish and I visited the US with my thengirlfriendnowwife in 2010 when we were 19 and 21 We both thought Hot Topic was super cool and bought a ton of clothes there Now ten years later I learn that Hot Topic is ridiculed and I feel personally attacked But then again it seems people think this salvages them so its okay again I guess|1 Mine as well I think Im going to move all my classes online after this week anyway|1 I mean they have already tried praying it away What else do you want them to do|1 I thought this sub was over reacting and general public under reacting But I gotta be honest this sub was totally correct and I underestimated this issue|1 The disinfect cellphone and training tip is good I could really imagine that gyms would be a very obvious place to get infected at with everyone touching the exact same places and checking their phones every minute|0 Im hoping the governors office is keeping all of that in mind while going through their decision makingEdit To clarify these people dont have home internet because they cannot afford it Yay for monopolies no one will actually call monopolies s|0 Agreed Government here was very slow and too wet initially when the outbreak kicked off My partner was not so alarmed until the cases started to increase here and we got the press conferences with PMCSOCMOI still think the lockdown also heightens exposure of the virus to people who wouldnt have had initially as youll have people moving around to cater for no schooluniversity and other functionsImported cases and external spread is very insignificant now with vast community spread|1 Who cares about fair Thats not how the real world works You think life is going to be fair if civilization falls apart You weak minded people are always the first to go|1 I missed out on being a boomer by 90 days by the wiki definition so Ive had the pleasure of being personally acquainted with people from generations going back to a lady I knew as a child born in 1878 In all that time Ive never seen a generation that hates their grandparents with more vehemence than millenials do Its a visceral hatred I dont know where it comes from|0 Why I am not surprised |0 Yup I went to university with lots of South Korean students in our cohort and they all got on very well most of the drama is between government boomers in my experience|1 It really is lol|1 Who gives a shit about toilet paper You can just shower lmao|1 I just yesterday started playing Plague Inc again this time on Ps4 That game is so much fun And also very depressing at the same time Soon Corona will go for total organ failure and then were fucked |0 Chinese numbers are faked all the way down Its actually how outside analysts are able to call bullshit on Chinese numbers Province numbers dont sum to country numbers ore sales dont match to steel production etc etcPlus at the size of 14B people losing thousands to tens of thousands of people is easy especially when almost all the workers in factories are illegally there ie their hukou isnt for Shenzhen or Shanghai but some bumblefuck farm village in Shaangxi|0 People here have perfected sleep walking They wont wake|1 Ha Yes probably 100 porta potties that will quickly run out of hand sanitizer|1 No Where did you read that|0 Right its so adorable I wish America was like that lol I need hugs sometimes |1 If I was part of his student boby I probably would start panicking|0 Its More Serious When I Put A Period After Each Word|0 I remember H1N1 Our state had one of the first 10 cases in the US It was scary but what I learned from that or rather knew but internalized was that your first data is highly skewed toward the extreme This is because the nature of the surveillance systems is to identify the worst case scenario of deaths and hospitalizations As finally experts are noting that subset is data in a vacuum of any other data That is why I have been urging countries to attempt to understand the unknown burden of disease upon the population As something of this type moves through a naive population the case fatality rate will continue to go down as you noted with the final one for H1N1 And at some point there will be enough data Go to this website for the burden estimates httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtml Not too far down the web page is a blue pyrimid with the estimated 45 million cases IN THE USE as the upper end TOTAL cases While the total hospitalized at the upper end is 810000 and deaths upper end of estimate is 61000 This disease also will follow a similar pyrimid Diseases like the plague and smallpox would not This is NOT a smallpox or a Plague It is still going to be relatively speaking worse than any flu season Until we know or can effectively assessmodel the bottom of the pyrimid it is all guesswork And even then it is and educated buess It is imperative to depress the peak of the disease over time This CDC MMWR publication has the details Look at page 3 to see what I mean about a core goal httpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes66rrpdfsrr6601pdf|0 anybody else think this is like pailing out the water when the water is still pouring in|1 Yup Redditards that also thought Bernie was going to win in a landslide couldnt see senile Biden winning Redditors are just completely disconnected from the real world and live in a bubble of ignorance|1 Yes but there is a very long lag time It takes around 1 week to display symptoms but over a month to be declared well therefore the people who are recovered are actually the people who caught it a month ago The numbers of infected were much much smaller then|0 So you think it will go away in summer even though other dangerous coronaviruses do not|0 The more i look at all the government the more i conclude that people are just madly being driven by the power and that power convinces them to do insane things|0 The culture of ignorance and arrogance in this country is so depressing|0 It would be fuckin weird if by the end of this thing we recognize Dick Nixon as the reason we didnt all get pneumonia|0 I feel you I dont get it why some people think because they are young and this corona of other kinds of flu will only affect older people but still how about their parents How can they be that shallow I worry about my parents back home more than myself and the part that Im far away in a developed country while they are stuck in a developing country does make it worse |0 Good luck with your covid future recovery Well wishes|1 Notably the Health and Population Ministry said the infected person is not a citizen of Egypt|0 These articles are a joke Do you know how much cash American Airlines burns every four months 15 billion Do you know how much theyve spent in the last ten years on buybacks 15 billion The issue isnt stock buybacks Its leverage|1 Youve made the correct but very difficult decision|0 I hope they vote out William Wilhelm Jr next election|1 Im sure they are trying to push this through until Friday when they can release Animal Crossing and Doom Thats probably their entire 1st quarter profits right thereIll be cancelling my preorders today and buying from Nintendo directly|1 And there are some people who have hills theyre willing to die on I can totally see a dedicated nurse horrified by the unfolding disaster posting a video to social media She might post it anonymously or say fuck it and post it with their name but there are plenty of nurses who would do exactly what this one is purported to do which is to post a video to raise awareness out of what may well be a sense of horror and outrage Anyway what are they going to do fire the nurse The nurse is risking hisher life right now Firing them gets them out of danger Hell arresting them and sending them to jail would be less risky than what theyre doing now|0 Princess Cruises even though the ship is flagged in Bermuda is an American company It very much is their fault|0 Trust me they can handle it way easier than any other nation Why Because they dont value human life and would probably just kill and burn the infected right away They imprison and kill for way less in NK|0 Especially when you cant even test the kids by the time anything is confirmed a child would have to have severe symptoms which they typically dont get Its likely to spread through a thousand kids in a school before one gets tested Wayyyyy too lateEdit in the US Other countries have smarter leaders and expanded testing capacity We wont have anything close to that until next week at earliest|1 And the invasion of Iraq which left millions dead|0 Not just a lack of empathy but selfishness as well Selfishness leads to lack of empathy They go hand in hand a terrible couple where one wills what he wills at the expense of others not giving any thought to the consequences of his actions whether they be on others or sometimes even on himself|1 I just saw a story where a drug manufacturer in the Netherlands was saying he could easily produce 16 million doses of it if it proves to be effective Really hope hydroxychloroquine is effective The 2003 paper that proposed CQ could be useful against SARS said that hydroxychloroquine should have the same effect|1 I said I went to get tested I didnt say they actually tested me I pleaded with them to test me they said they couldnt and the reason given was we dont want to create mass hysteria Its a long story if you want all the details|0 He was my high school principal in Wyoming a few years ago Great guy and an amazing leader|1 I bet its delicious when youre done|1 Well they also have thishttpswwwreadygovnuclearexplosionNeither means they know its gonna happen and made an error with the title means it could happen and want people to be prepared for it|1 Should fine them more|1 Trudeaus wife is being tested currently lmao|1 All the docs Ive talked to lately are not Seem clueless Its disturbing|0 Retail restaurant workers factory workers So many people cant takes days off work without endangering their jobs And when youre working a job like that youre often living paycheck to paycheck Taking a day or two off work losing that pay and having to pay to see a doctor and for medication can really hurt or just be completely out of reachAnd many employers require you to see a doctor if you take a day off So even if you know you are not really sick enough to see a doctor you still have to go In my family well only buy tamiflu for small children 60 for a prescription with insurance is just to much to treat the whole family So even if you know that you wont be getting anything from the doctor except a piece of paper verifying that you are sick you still have to drag your sick butt out of bed to get the doctors excuse And your family doctor is probably booked solid They wont be able to see you today Youll have to go to an urgent care and pay exhorbitant prices for that piece of paperAnd policies within the same company arent fair My husband and soninlaw work at the same factory My husband is a manager If he gets sick he doesnt have to have a doctors excuse My soninlaw works on the assembly line he has to have a doctors excuse My husband however is so incredibly overburdened at work that he always works sick It is terrible to watch him head off to work when hes sick with the flu Things are so screwed up in the US Everything is about squeezing every last penny out of the people|1 Idk but what I find intetesting is that their median incubation period was only 4 days and their death rate was only 14They also said Since patients who were mildly ill and who did not seek medical attention were not included in our study the case fatality rate in a realworld scenario might be even lower|0 Amm those are pretty cold temperatures for someone who lives in actual hot weather 37C here low part of Bolivia Virus spreading|1 Im so glad you listened|1 Well the two are at least one order of magnitude apart in case fatality rate and the flu shot is 70 effective in a good year and most people who think they had flu actually had cold|0 I did read it You are not wrong but its kind of silly Looks like they wanted to look like theyre doing something without actually doing it|1 Tokyo here I think we are all fucked|0 Why cant these sites take down the paywall at a time like this|1 Breath Sore throat could be anything and its not one of the red flags for the virus Tylenol is said to be safer so take that or gargle with warm salt water Drink extra fluids Could easily be allergies or a simple sore throat Avoid acidic foods and rest Just focus on treating the symptom you have and dont worry unless a new severe symptom develops I had a sore throat a couple of weeks ago with a ton of congestion but allergy season began early where I am|0 Id like to imagine that if nothing else this whole thing might scare people into being hygienic|0 Every single day we are reminded of the unreliability of the death rate because of unreported or undiagnosed casesChill The Fuck Out|0 Is it normal to be very stressed about this Its gotten to the point where now Im dreaming about COVID19|0 True I think Im in the US We arent actually doing anything to slow the spread mindset|1 Cant share Im afraid|0 I was in Disney on the day of Irma and at the time I was there is was still at a potentially devastating rating We were in Disney the next dayThis is bad Keep well everyone look after yourselves|0 Sweden has entered the chat Dream Reality rather|1 j The push for developing treatments seems to be the reason for all this research at least superficially Pg 5 Importantly the failure of available therapeutics defines a critical need for further study and treatment developmentk So here is where it gets interesting There is a type of research in classified segments of government called gain of function research or GOF This is the kind of research where an organism is made to be much more pathogenic than any of its constituent parts The only reason for such research is the development of biological warfare or weaponization of existing pathogens I will include several parts of the paragraph from the bottom of pg 5 to illustrate that this study was in fact dealing with gain of function research and was given the blessing of the Dept of Health and Human Services HHS There was some concern in congress back in 2015 and 2016 enough to mandate a pause in this sort of research due to the perceived danger While offering preparation against future emerging viruses this approach must be considered in the context of the US governmentmandated pause on gain of function studies Relative to the Urbani SpikeMA15CoV SHC014MA15 constitutes a gain in pathogenesis Based on these findings review panels may deem similar studies too risky to pursue as increased pathogenicity in mammalian models cannot be excluded Together these data and restrictions represent a crossroads of GOF research concerns the potential to prepare and mitigate future outbreaks must be weighed against the risk of creating more dangerous pathogens In developing policies moving forward it is important to consider the value of the data generated by these studies and if they warrant further study or the inherent risks involved In other words yes the congress has placed a pause on such dangerous research but the benefit of continuing outweighs the risk WOWl The rest of the paper details the process for actually creating this chimeram In concluding remarks much is gleaned in the thinking of these scientists and government entities On bottom of pg 8 it literally gives the project title Generating infectious clones of Bat SARSlike CoVs That was the purpose of the experiment to create clones and chimera Further these studies were initiated prior to the US Government Deliberative Process Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain of Function Research Involving Influenza MERS and SARS Viruses and the current manuscript has been reviewed by the funding agency the National Institutes of Health NIH Continuation of these studies have been requested and approved by NIH In other words we started these studies prior to congressional worries We have reviewed the possible dangers and have decided to approve further Gain of Function research into these dangerous chimera This means that this research is being done with the full blessing and funding by the US governmentn Page 9 goes into some details about safety procedures in a BSL3 facility where there is strict card access use of powered air purifying respirators redundant fans and backup power supplies for these fans use of special protective suits doublegloving shoe covers etc Just imagine movies of clandestine lab operations and you can envision what they describe in this papero Lastly in the acknowledgements it gives a list of entities funding this research These include NIH National Natural Science Foundation of China Dept of Genetics U of North Carolina U of Texas Medical Branch etc I forgot to mention that two of the principal investigators were from the BSL4 facility in Wuhan China Dr XingYi Ge and Dr ZhengliLi Ship So where does this spike protein show up again When the French did an analysis of the genome of the novel 2019nCoV that started in China it was that spike protein that sort of gave away the probability that this virus has originated in a laboratory It became clear that this was a combined or chimeric organism This is not the official story however Officially this virus came from bats in the fish market in Wuhan Well fine You can believe that if you like Never mind that they dont sell bats in that market and bats dont frequent that populationcongested areaq Ultimately you make up your own mind Here are the two studies for your bedtime reading httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4797993pdfnihms766724pdf httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticleabspiiS0166354220300528|1 I dont usually like throwing the word around But those folks on the frontlines risking themselves living at the hospitals working all day theyre heros|0 What would the long term outlook on this virus look like if researchers are unable to develop a vaccine Will it have just one big wave and then its gone Will there be several waves Will it become a new part of life and well just have a coronavirus season in addition to the flu season|1 I love this I wish I could join as well|1 also this will be blamed on the virus and not the government|0 Thanks for taking the time to write this|1 What the Im I reading I dont understand this sentence|1 I work in the clothing section of a store that also has pharmacy and some grocery I was told that the only way Ill be allowed to stay home is if I get the virus and also manage to get a positive result Im super jealous of all my friends that are home on a paid month off|1 This is so sad I work at a place where my boss said last week buisness as usual The way i make it thru with my concious is do what i can do in the background to get stuff done with whatever i can Good luck to you and remember you can look at yourself in the mirror in the morning doing what is right Never forget how your manager acted in this situation In the future when this is over you will know exactly who you are dealing with a POS|1 But they also dont know what she died of The translation is a little confusing They said she felt unwell and never regained consciousness They attempted resuscitation and called emergency services Emergency services came attempted more and then declared her dead Then the family suspected coronavirus because shed had flu symptoms at some point prior The emergency services crew didnt have a swab kit on them and returned later to get the sample They left and were also quarantined bc of this contact and theyre still waiting to hear about the test results and what to do Did you understand the time frame in which this happened Because from the video I understood that they tested her while she was still alive and she died while she was waiting for the swab to came back but I wasnt really in a rational state of mind while watching the video so I may have missed it|0 No economy no tax revenue to spend money on things like the preparednessBottom line is you should be selfpreparing regardless of your political beliefs|0 The US is immune to Corona Were so great we do not need hospitals at all Hospitals are for losers We suck it up and power through Were number one You all just jelly|1 Im fairly like 95 sure Dr Campbell covered several Chinese studies on it in a couple of his videos I cant point you to specifics without having to watch all of his stuff again|1 I work as an Apple Care iOS Technical Advisor People are pissed when you tell them it could be 2 4 weeks to have an iPhone repair due to limited availability of parts and new devices|0 The trend before including clinical cases is just an arbitrary ceiling based on testing limitations Its a trend line reflecting testing not illness Its representative of bupkis|1 oh were totally going to be bombing somebody within a few years the militaryindustrial complex is going to be hungry after thisnot WW3 though well find someone that cant fight back like that|1 Temporary marital law is justifiable in such emergencies But I agree its dangerous Imagine Trump getting to play dictator|1 Would you read this as someone with diabetes or hypertension who does not take ACE2 stimulating drugs would be at a normal level of riskOr more that diabetes or hypertension are risk factors and are compounded by the drugs|0 This chart is pretty good for comparing number of cases httpsstudylibnetcoronavirusgrowthhttpsstudylibnetcoronavirusgrowth Note that the yaxis is logarithmic The number of cases is affected by time taken to confirm and the number of tests carried out so take it with a grain of salt|1 And then theyll just make your life hell upon return find another reason to shitcan your ass if youre in an atwill employment state|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 holy shit there are more cases on the damn ship than in some chinese provinces|0 Yes plz|1 annnnd now all of Italy is under travel restrictions for just the flu|0 People in Finland pay less than Americans I dont get what your point is here People in America pay for other people to get procedures as well Only difference is that we have a 100 billion dollar indudtry involved in healthcare that does not provide healthcare in any way Its a leech on the system|1 Keep posts on topic In general we dont need new posts that are jokes memes shitposts or other unhelpful and unrelated comments|1 Modern IT tech makes for a relatively pleasant quarantine compared to past generations for sureFunny how tech can contribute in areas unexpectedly Why it is important to fund a broad range of research|1 There was a facebook thread where the school claims they have extensively cleaned the building this weekendHowever many students and parents expressed their disappointment that the student is not being identified by class time and locationReading week was 2 weeks ago I think its almost a certainty the virus was spreadAlso of note the student didnt live in Hamilton so they likely commuted to McMaster GO Busses and trains are a popular mode of transport to campus|1 I found my way here through that Job well done Reddit I just hope this subreddit is property moderated at all times This is a pandemic and shouldnt be taken any less seriously|1 Isnt it obvious that they would stack up all the virus related dead bodies in the same morgue This out of context videos mean nothing and create panic |0 Do you mean WARS Wuhan acute respiratory syndrome|0 thanks for the ouput im totally aware of the situation abroad also youve got a point were all screwed either way so they chose the option which led to less economical impacts|0 Okay fine let people like the state department run things as is Guess what they have their comfy bunkers and men with guns to protect them when things get bad as for you and me well were on our own|1 Reach out to a local church to see if they can help Maybe theres a local food bank that can bring you food Sending prayers your way|1 Im sure I dont have the full story from my company maybe they were running into financial issues before I was told the owners and investors are cutting their losses and moving on|0 Which is paid for through taxes from people working Dont fool yourself this will effect every economy around the world regardless how much of a social safety net they have because that safety net is funded through the work of the people in that country No work no netThe US will be able to hold out a long while simply because they are the 1 global economy and have a fairly low population density They also grow a large amount of food and produce large amounts of oil Their biggest weaknesses will be spinning up social help and safety nets from near zero and the potential lack of supply of medications since so much of that is produced in China and India Hopefully its a wakeup call and causes regulators to figure out a way to locate at least some manufacturing capacity for life saving medications in the US itself instead of being so reliant on importsDoes this still have the potential to drastically change everyones way of life even in first world nations Absolutely But like usual I suspect this will really get its deadly grip on high density low GDP countries and causes significant hardshipIm very worried about Venezuela at the moment|1 Youre highlighting the difference between criminal law and civil but in most jurisdictions assault falls into both categories Crucially in most of the United States the definition of assault explicitly covers attempts at harm even if they werent successful So whether or not he actually infected anyone is irrelevant he was intentionally doing something that had a very strong likelihood of causing physical harm to others and thats definitely enough to sue overWhether or not the suit would be successful is another question because the US absolutely loves letting sports stars get away with causing harm but getting it in front of a judge shouldnt be particularly difficult|0 Did you read the article Please do The table shows the surgical masks have a PE very close to 1 PE1 means no protectionOnly the respirator type masks had any real value on their table But those are hard to wear for long periods and you are susceptible to CO2 poisoning over long periods Maybe only for the ones without the oneway valve but stillThe best you could say is the surgical masks are very slightly better than no protection|1 I love 3M The amount of product they carry is absolutely insane From tapes and glues to architectural finishes to face masks Incredible|1 hug|1 Do you want to be the public official that cancels a gay pride event|1 We have MASSIVE stock piles of MREs scattered throughout the country But if we get to the point where we have to break into those thats bad news|0 Theres no WE in this YOU wont be fixing anything YOU will pat yourself on the back for this dumb post with no thought or concern for the employees and businesses put out of work|0 Hooray|1 Ah thank you for the response It reassures me that an expert thinks that we wont reach those dire circumstances I really appreciate what your doing here Its tough times for us worriers|1 Right planning a referendum seems like the best course of action right now Maybe in 2 or 3 weeks What could possibly go wrong|1 Pay careful attention to how the mods handle this situation The sub is very new and growing at an exponential rate How the mods handle things will set the tone Good or bad|1 Compared to an electric heater or a space heater a computer is equally efficient on an electricityheat basis Intuitively all electricity used by a computer is converted to heat If it wasnt where would that energy be going See httpswwwpugetsystemscomlabsarticlesGamingPCvsSpaceHeaterEfficiency511 or httpswwwquoracomIsitmoreefficienttoheatuptheroombyheateroracomputerA heat pump might be more efficient but you will need a heat reservoir to begin with creating that heat might be more or less energy intensive And in my experience most people have space heaters or electric heaters|1 Lmao i pictured Michael scott doing this|1 Thats scare the hell out of me I can see everyone repeat the same mistake During the Spanish Flu doctors have warned politicians about a deadly disease and urge them to cancel all public events banning traveling and spreading awareness to the public but they ignore it all and today I have observed the same shit happen Trump and his friend keep downplaying the virus its better than the flu flu kill more people than this virus WTF is wrong with these guys disease is disease and I dont like getting sick at all no matter its the flu or this virusWhat I was mentioning earlier about the technology thing is we dont need to wait for government to tell us we can be proactive looking for information about this virus everybody on this sub know so well how this virus can overwhelm the healthcare system and that what make this virus deadly So a little bit of informations can save everyone in advance but people only tapping on Trumps tweet just a flu bro no need to be scared and carry on travelling spreading the virus everywhere the Europeans governments have this same just a flu attitude and now the whole continent is so fucked Italy is fucked nearly 4000 case at the moment Germany is fucked 545 case now France is fucked 423 case now and new cases keep popping up for every EU country My friend in UK tell me the country have over 100 cases at the moment but people freakout already shlelves are empty toilet paper running out Soon all these number will add up if a massive quarantine dont take place but its too late anywayWe are so fucked |0 Bill HRes 897 was introduced by a democrat and has bipartisan support|1 There is very little regulation in China relative to the US CCP officials can wave a hand and say make it so and all the red tape disappears|1 No youre just living through history I sometime what it must have been like living through WW2 reading about the thousands that had died the day before either being under occupation or threatened with it etc Most of the time nothing that noteworthy happens Live long enough and youll live through events that get remembered|0 Hubei province started counting clinically diagnosed cases without lab confirmation In other words someone shows symptoms they get counted without bothering to see if their samples are confirmed positive This has lead to a massive spike in the reported numbers|1 Im glad you said it I was thinking the exact same thing Which makes me feel like we should have a pinned thread with a bunch of videos Without the videos a lot of the hysteria feels mislead With the videos is when you start to realise China is trying to hide the facts|1 Should we be surprised|1 One minds their own business instead of trying to tell everyone else how to do things they suck at|0 Not mine Its my friends But thanks I havent heard from her at all today But her baby does have breathing problems anyway Id have got a text if the result was positive But yeah Its weird At first Ill admit to being apprehensive about catching the virus But now its at my front door and 5050 Im like Fuck it lets do it|1 x200BDid you miss the sentence I was replied to in his comment It is a lot deadlier than the flu 1020 times perhaps|0 Hey till she is getting her test done please advise her to do the following These worked amazingly well in Singapore 1 Squeeze half a lemon in luke warm water and drink it every morning next few days2 Keep on drinking luke warm water throughout the day without lemon in it of course3 Wear mask when she is sneezingcoughing4 Keep on washing her hand with sanitizer and cleanwipe home furniture sofa tv table door handles etc wherever she is sitting and touching with alcohol tissue swipe 5 Eat small small meals every few hours 6 No drinking and smoking absolutely7 If over the counter Panadol fever is available start taking it once or twice a day8 Keep following up with Doctors I hope she will feel better and nothing worrisome for her All the best|1 Energy and strong work ethic is a problem OK|1 This is too accurate lol|1 Always got to be that one piece of shit that thats like Hey I know people are dying by the truck loads by the day buuuuut politics right|0 Its really very worrying MrMITH has rung them again this morning but this insanely inept government really isnt helping|0 Its worse in Lithuania We are being censored thats all Im going to say|0 theres an easy solution to that PTO happens when you get doctors note|1 My experience was the same as yours I had a UTI and was peeing blood and pus and had a high fever from the infection They wanted to give me Chinese medicine first until I demanded antibiotics and told them which ones I needed exactly from the Mayo clinic website on his office computer since the doctor said he didnt know what antis to prescribe me this was in 2007|0 Anything that impacts your immune system lack of sleep stress pollution hygiene etcwill be a handicap when the war starts between your immune system and this virus Stay vigilant and take care of yourself|0 Raleigh NC stores here are out of tp paper towels tissues milk eggs most fresh meats Decent amount of canned goods One grocery chain is no longer doing cash back with debit cards manager told me the stores are running low on cash 2 grocery chains have started closing at 11pm so staff could cleandisinfect and restock overnight Poor employees Schools closed until end of March Tons of people at restaurants We need to close bars clubs gyms and restaurants|0 I love all 3Blue1Brown videos I watched this the day it came out and it helps put things into perspective|1 Hi please keep speculation in rCoronavirus or rChinaFlu|1 So theyre going AGAINST WHO recommendations saying otherwise Interesting|1 Today my dad forwarded me a typical boomer generated chain email The prevention strategies are terrifying including but not limited to COVID19 will be killed by a temperature of just 2627 degrees It hates the Sun Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses Try not to drink liquids with ice Both of my parents are in their 70s and I almost lost one last year to a significant health event Between that email the constant Fox News coverage they consume and this bizarre its in Gods hands mentality I am at a loss|0 Me and many of my coworkers were very sick with respiratory issues in early February Based on my experience Colorado I think this virus has been spreading for months I do have a question regarding the mass spikes in other countries Is it possible this virus is not causing surge hospitalization in the US due to our privatized healthcare Americans are much less like to go to the doctorhospital for something they think is the flu or bronchitis Could this actually decrease spread by sick patients COVID19 or other illnesses not spreading in a medical setting Americans tend to think of hospitals as a last resort because you do not want to catch a secondary infection or pay the bill|0 Agreed however bias is not the same as fake news false news deliberate lies|0 I wouldnt Though I guess it depends on the risk level of where you currently are|0 Soooooo many nurses still claiming the flu is worse|0 Yeah but it only ran out because of people buying what they dont need The toilet paper didnt run out because its no longer being made and shipped to stores It ran out because people are hoarding it|0 Those are scary fucking numbersIm not particularly at risk of gettingsuffering from Covid19 but I worry about becoming a carrier and infecting my father who fought off MRSA last year and has 13 of his right lung functionally dead I dont want him to became one of these numbers|0 Also if the rest of the world is only just now getting it unless they restrict all incoming travel its just going to spread back to China|0 Remember Hurricane Katrina They took their sweet ass time doing a damn thing Firefighters coming down to help the people at the Superdome were forced to hand out flyers on the road for days And when the Japanese trunami hit the Yakuza sent more aid and immediately after Government took its sweet ass time again getting anything done|0 I thought that this was supposed to be one of the more censored subreddits on coronavirus Yet they have this misleading title at the top of their front page They labeled it misleading and everyone is being mislead|0 Totally agree Ive been prepping since January and we are in the best possible shape to ride this out for a few months if need be My wife popped in to Publix grocery in the US and said there was NO produce of any kind no meat no paper products no cleaning products Good thing she was only picking up brownie mix and White Claw|1 Trump no|0 in fact China has only half of the police to population ratio compare to the United States we have even less police power compare to NorwayhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesanddependenciesbynumberofpoliceofficershttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesanddependenciesbynumberofpoliceofficersour policemen are very occupied to handle just daily chores and occasionally crimes they really have no ability to imply a police state kind of exercise|1 397661 when I signed itThey cant cap the signatures or play with the numbers without us noticing if we pay attention to the number at the time each of our signatures were addedOther people can reply here to say where were at if they want to|1 More like an untreated bipolar trust fund kid with a savior complex and gun fetish Am American|1 Yikes I mean to be fair those people may just be misinformed Venezuela looked extremely good a few decades ago they were generally considered to be on their way to becoming developed A blessed country with problematic politics unfortunately|1 You have to be trolling surely Believing CCP figures is dumb enough as it is but saying they dont have smokers in China is just ridiculous|0 BOINC is a platform and a piece of software that manages these workloads WCG and Rosetta are two specific projects that allow you to contribute using BOINC Foldinghome is its own project that uses its own software entirely and doesnt use BOINC|1 My friend had these exact symptoms too last month Shes in Kirkland|1 The mortality rate is a rate not an absolute value When you get the overall its weightedYou have 6 million 65 and 45 million total If the mortality rate of the 65 group is 01 how could the overall mortality rate be 0180 of the deaths were in the 65 group The overall cant be 01 It is much smaller|0 thank you for sharing the photos around the city|1 Coronavirus Im sorry Mayor Cuomo I Uhh I didnt know I couldnt do that|0 All these tweets are saying they only test people who recently returned from china etc Do they ask to see your passport Whats to stop you from lying|0 Yes but these bozos are making vectors of themselves|1 Thanks for the info now I understand|1 People dont know whats happening in Seattle This will help Seattle itll help the country get a beat on whats coming and it helps the world be informed and keep US accountable and makes Seattle Times looks like good guys which they are All around great decision|1 This might not be the encouragement you are seeking but I just read Mans Search for Meaning a recount of a mans time he was a psychiatrist in the concentration camps and the psychoanalysis of it all And basically he wrote that through the suffering that he went through day by day many times spending 12 hours in the snow doing hard manual labor he held onto hope Him and many others Those who lost hope didnt last much longer and eventually succumbed to deathTherell be some days where you are hopeless and everything seems scary but there is a new day where things can shift for the better Right now were in the middle of mass panichysteria for I now think a good reasonThe best thing about humans is our spirit We bounce back We fight until the bitter end and those who go through Hell come out the other side ever more grateful to be alive and love each other and find more meaning in the small minutes than ever before You may have lost your job which totally fucking sucks but it is likely that therell be a better one around the corner Ask people for help people want to help if they can and know how to fulfill the request You may have to postpone your wedding but many companies are offering refunds and being really compassionate at a time like this so even if you have to postpone your wedding that just means you get to celebrate and cherish being engaged for that much longer This will test your relationship and knowing how you two handle it will better prepare you going into marriage Relationships arent always about the good times theyre about how we handle the bad times because shit WILL hit the fanCall your parents this week Call them often Give them love it helps the soul The more high spirits they are the more likely theyll be in a good mood to do preventative things take care of each other eat well drink water and get exerciseAs for the other things that is a nightmare rabbit hole that you should try to not walk down Rather if youre worried about it try writing solutions Worst case scenario is you learn how to code and start an online business as a software developer You cant spend time outdoors but you can go on car rides you can learn new activities like rowing or yoga Youll bend and evolve in different ways its the human in us to adapt Just be cautious to not let your resentment override your gratitude you are still alive after all I volunteer at a homeless shelter and Id always ask this one volunteer also one of the guests how he was doing He ALWAYS responded Above ground and still breathing Im doing good thank youAs are you your fiance and your parents Send them love |1 oh the irony first criminalizing those with masks and now this lol|1 Youre in a tough position On one hand people are losing their jobs left and right but you seem to be fortunate enough to be in a secure one Thats a blessing On the other hand youre definitely going to be exposed to the virus Nobody should play games with their health and I would completely understand why if you quit That said youre young and presumably health so if you do get sick youll very likely recover with no ill effect plus youll still have a job Were looking at a global recession coming down the pike and jobs might be hard to come by for a while I hear you about your dad through Thats serious Personally Id keep my job and do my very best to avoid contact with my father Im twice your age and Id still make that decision but Im very cautious about my income and being able to pay my bills Things are about to get really bad on the job market and youd be wise to plan for that That being said this is your decision and your health Do what you think is best for you|1 Thats crazy imagine if we accidentally eradicate the common cold|0 Tbh I expect the of cases to dramatically spike here I just hope that the University i work for shuts down sooner rather than later|1 Chicken Pox had herd immunity We infected three young with it to protect the older|0 People were laughing at me back in January when I was taking daily Costco trips to slowly build supply Now theyre all spooked and hate me rubbing their noses in it|0 Im not entirely surprised but thats insane to hear This event is defining our generation at we know it|0 One causes flu like symptoms while the other causes severe symptoms similar to sars|0 I just wanted to thank you for this post I have a friend with a daughter studying g in France trying to get home Part of her flight was cancelled today so she now has to take the train across France to the Paris airport nervous about being prevented from getting to the airport then stuck 8 hrs away from her host family I was able to go to the Oest website get some info for themhuge help Sothank you|1 I guess you dont know exponential growth|0 Nationwide is not extremely bad but in Lombardy therre going to open a Whuanlike temporary hospital for ICUs in Milan fair The real problem is time and resources only in that region They need 500 doctors and 1000 nurses ICU equipmentIn EmiliaRomagna the region where I live Were starting to designate specifical COVID hospitals httpsbolognarepubblicaitcronaca20200311newsilbellariadiventaospedalecovid19250952694httpsbolognarepubblicaitcronaca20200311newsilbellariadiventaospedalecovid19250952694Its going to be a long month for everyone including Europe and the rest of the world|1 I think people confuse the TARP payout versus the one Obama did later no You are correct the Obama one was a lifeline and not free money and was payed back with interest if I remember right|0 I told a few coworkers who I actually care about one who is pregnant thst I was experiencing symptoms went to the doctor and couldnt get tested but his diagnosis was most likely Coronavirus I get a message from my boss and my bosses boss telling me I need to stop telling people I have Coronavirus Lol never said I have it only being transparent to those I care about who i could have potentially spread it to I hate society|1 A couple years ago I found a list of shows to watch that were almost guaranteed to make you laugh I watched iZombie available on Netflix at least in the US There have been several more seasons since I first binge watched all of it but the show didnt disappoint I was wary of the story at first because it sounded a bit weird but I definitely enjoyed watching it For a show about death and eating brains it was funny and it definitely made me laugh|1 XDNot sure if smiley or mask|1 Calling Chinese people shills because they dont buy into the western narrative is a form of superiority complex|1 To be fair the US or at least King County testing policies have been pretty similar only testing if you are experiencing severe symptoms|1 the Western world is still in the process of realizing that viruses dont see bordersWe need to built a wall and make the coronavirus pay for it|0 Lmao Well that settles it then Corona loses the game|1 Duct tape his ass like Reservoir Dogs|0 I am trying to find some reason for this crazy behaviour was she scared of staying at home alone or something Newly married scared of living alone while husband is in hospital Im from that part of the world and while I wouldnt go against orders to be quarantined maybe she was scaredEither way highly irresponsible Its idiots like this who spread this thing|0 If he drops dead of coronavirus I think we need to make Nicola the emergency interim leader|0 No but is that relevant to the story|0 man people need to chill out and stop flying to the US|0 Oh maybe its time to stop then|0 Hi ukbabe15The best advice is switch off a little We have a reasoned positive community hereTruth is so much is still unknown and even though the unknown is scary it doesnt have to be A lot of life is generally unknown and we get by and well get by with this virus as well|1 Do they also screen passengers from China but connect from other countries Seems like this is just security theater if they dont screen everyone You can easily have someone make a connection in say Europe and avoid the screening process|1 Well done|1 Face it you cannot make people see what they dont want to see You will look like a paranoid idiot yelling the sky is falling until something happens that affects them Most of us here are a part of the digital world trying to get analog people to understand what we see so easily is not so easy|0 Oh shit I just realised I guess we cant say police men anymore lol|0 Italy has really failed its people I wonder if Contes govt will even survive this debacle|0 Have you seen the vast ghettos in the US The number of homelss The number of people who suffer or die because they cant access healthcare The inefficient education and police who cant control the homicide ratesHow is that a first world country Just because there are also rich people You can find those in South Africa or Mexico too|0 Its a false equivalence when one is way worse than the two you mentionedChina has been much worse to its own people but the US has been worse to other countries I dont remember China invading Iraq or toppling foreign governments throughout the 20th century|0 As the Flower Withers is really something else You cant really go wrong with any of the first 3 though|1 Elderly shouldnt even be out shopping sorry this is good tho just saying we should all be offering trips to grocery stores to our elders if possible good job dollar general|1 Great post Just wanna add one point From my close relatives who live in a major city in the eastern part of China The government not only waives all cost of COVID19 including diagnosis treatment They also give people money if they are symptomatic and willing to get tests The logic behind this is the gov believes the financial consequence of ignoring one potential carrier and let she spreads the virus is much higher than the money for rewards|1 Thatd be great but then Id be out of a job and money to pay bills buy food to survive|1 Fuck off Pearl harbour and 911 were single day events Obvisouly I associated his stat with a single day Do you like tagging people Do you want me to wear an arm band in real life so Im easier to identify maybe |1 Missed the bit where you said 80 of population get it |0 Dang I go to megacon every year Im not willing to get sick from it but its sad|0 This shit will cost Trump the election|0 Im so frustrated by the mainstream media Their comparing this to the flu and SARS was definitely fake news|0 Yeah just sue the fuck out of it so It doesnt have money to travel|0 This is a slow motion crisis vs something like five major cities nuked simultaneously I think youre right for the second kind of crisis|0 Yeah lol well put like what kind of trash intelligence personnel do we have that they can do all that and it didnt effect our response|1 Laundromats and sanitationtrash sites need to stay open as well|1 Three weeks to reach critical condition This means almost no cases outside of China have even reached that point yet|0 Hes the most authoritarian politician Australias ever produced a genuine fascist He also does indeed have a strong resemblance to a potatoThis is absolute perfection|1 This its got a 80 infection rate and him and Trump are not spring chickens here and are right smack in the most likely to get it and be seriously affected by it age rangeThey both 100 have it and are purposely hiding it now|0 Thanks I thought that looked weird|1 So Thank you China|1 Your reassurance Dear Leader is 2nd to none|1 Fatality rate and infection rate are two different things The only point that may touch on fatality rate is hospital beds per 1000 people Having a mask doesnt affect fatality rate With that being said I 100 agree with your energy Cant believe the Greatest country on earth is responding so terribly|0 They still havent found one person in my state So most people are not worried at all here|1 issa joke|1 My mom has a rare form of cancer and Type 1 diabetes She hasnt been going much this past 2 weeks because she doesnt want to get this I have been going out shopping for us and am very paranoid because I dont want to get sick and give it to her I do work from home so there is less of a chance But still worry|0 Too late Bernie lost because all boomers voted and younger ppl didnt|0 Man I hear ya Mother Nature mad Good luck and be careful out there|1 Imagine the ironi if they decided to close all travel in and out the country for a few monthsImagine all the stupid people who said But we cant stop people from coming from China the economy would crash blah blah blah would feelSeriously stock market investors have more foresight than these politicians And thats saying something|0 Translation Taiwan releases law to jail infected people when needed|0 The median time from first symptoms to hospital admission in Wuhan was 7 days It wasnt just a handful of cases it was 138 in the Lancet study with pneumonia Thats before they even got tested Outside of Wuhan and since it became widely known the situation is very different and people are being tested at the first sign of symptoms or before when they know they have a travel history so you basically have to add 7 days to the confirmed vs died figures 7 days is an eternity when there is exponential growth like this Inside Wuhan the recent dead may have been admitted 22 tested 131 symptoms began 124 exposure 117 Outside of China the very first cases started cropping up in late January with more with exposure in February|0 The quicker you take action the quicker you recover Yes it sucks If everyone act together it will be over weeks If 40 percent of people is not on the same page then its going to be a lot harder|1 A lot of us are indeed doing just that And even settlements could see some serious delays if courts grind to a hault which they eventually will|0 If you believe Trumps administration are not also spying not just on Germany but every other allied country as welland that they in turn are not spying back then you are an idiotspying is the norm between nations its how diplomatic problems are avoided before they arise normallyIts only when enemy states are spying it gets agressively countered|0 Hong Kong is also going to pretty drastic measures httpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200301810392094hongkonghascontainedcoronavirussofarbutatasignificantcostTheyre strongly pushing washing your hands frequently and social distancingTheyve closed schoolsThey are aggressively tracking down and quarantining anyone they think might be sickThe point is they didnt just hand out masks and say good luck they implemented a pretty strict plan on how to deal with it which we know is what is neededMasks is just one of a bunch of other things they did and so claiming this proves they are effective is misguided at best|1 My sister is going to the beach She plans on driving straight there disinfecting their room when they get there not going out to restaurants or other entertainment and just staying away from other people on the beachI guess if UV light and warmth do help slow virus transmission she probably is safer there than in our cold drizzly hometown There is already community spread in both places so who knows|1 They did on 23rd Why did your shitshow of a government did fuck all in past 25 months to prepare and prevent it|0 Im in western PA and they have straight up refused to test people who couldnt prove that they were in contact with someone with COVID19Thats insane I think the number of confirmed cases in my state is still in the double digits How the fuck am I supposed to prove I had contact with one of them lol Also many of us have contact with hundreds of strangers everyday|0 The doctor who discovered the plague outbreak was supposedly censored kind of like the doctor that discovered the coronavirus outbreak httpsforeignpolicycom20191116chinabubonicplagueoutbreakpandemicLis WeChat social media posting describing the couple was quickly deleted Meanwhile the government officially informed the World Health Organization WHO about the cases as it was required to do but only on Nov 13after they were already reported by journalists around the world|1 We just had 36 new cases popup at safra Jurong due to the actions of one Lets not be complacent|1 Luckily my family and friends are sane and rational and are also preparedYoure lucky because my family and friends are calling me crazy so Im worried for them and very disheartened by the callous way theyre treating me|1 Based on the fact theres only a few hundred cases in a giant area Its not as contagious as the measlesEndemic is a strong word for a place with millions of people and fewer than 200 casesThe fatalities are mostly from one facility populated by sick old people Of course the number is skewed VERY high with a situation like thatWhat do I gain from being reasonable Peace of mind you should try it some time|1 Yea if it inevitable I would prefer to get it while I am at sea level rather than staying with my young wife in central Kenya at over 7000 ft altitude and 75 normal air pressureOver at the main forum I tried to bring up the subject of contracting COVID19 under favorable conditions instead of just catching it at a random time but I was accused of trolling and a bunch of other evil stuff before my posting was quickly pulled Is it a foolish plan Maybe but I dont think so Not if you have my lifestyle The first time I was in Kenya I was sitting at this cafe with this young prostitute that I hired for a month Anyway this tourist bus got stuck in traffic right in front of us You could see bars on the windows and a pair of security guards in front And they are staring at us and you can tell they are talking about us And the girl is joking about how amazed they are to see me just sitting there without any precautions I can see it is mostly the old ladies on the bus talking but the old guys on the bus they are quiet And I am thinking to myself how many of those old guys would swap places with me just to spend one night with that girl who could have easily been a model in the USA even if they knew they would die in the morning Those bus bars were keeping those men inside as much as they are keeping any danger outThe point is that I dont want to live in a cage of steel bars or be a prisoner of fear I love traveling to exotic areas and I love experiencing the beautiful ladies I meet in these places I eat the local food and I often sleep in places that make an American prison cell seem like pure luxury And sometimes I get horribly sick and then get better And if some day I am hiking to the top of Mt Kilimanjaro on my bucket list and I get bit by a black mamba and know I will be dead in just a couple minutes I am not going to regret my decisions I lived my life to the fullest|0 I think youre being smart I dont see any way markets around the world dont take a sizeable hit over the next few months|1 Good for Canadian doctors But till this day Med staff here are wearing NO MASKS sooo youre pretty much screwed if u get sick cause its a matter of time until they start dropping God forbid ofcourse but if theyre not doing anything to protect themselves what else can happenBut youre right about the masks though those thick N95s will make u sweat like nobodys business and its still technically winter|1 nice comment bro|1 This is not just a health issue its an economic issueFUCK that THIS IS A HEALTH ISSUE The economics will be WORSE if we dont stop the spread NOW Do you think people are going to book holidays and go to restaurants when their relatives and friends start dying|1 In my mind its a mixed bag Some of the countries I put there have more time to prepare and might use it wisely eg Malaysia some have much more dysfunctional systems They can see the train coming but theres much less of a chance they can avoid it and if it hits itll be way worse eg Venezuela|0 We are all in the same boat Dont panic stay smart and stay Safe|1 Shilifeng prison is near Quzhou City Quzhou belongs to Zhejiang Quzhou has a very low infected number and its hospitals were not packed|0 Im disappointed in my job Around 10000 people in an office with flexible seating so you dont even get the same seat every day No tissues in sight no hand sanitizer people walking around totally uncaring|0 This is also a major component of a successful defense strategy As is keeping hydrated having a balanced diet and exercise If you have to go into an area with a decent potential to have active carriers around one should take every available precautionAs a person who is immunocompromised Im going to keep my stock of masks disinfectant and gloves And as for the doctors I feel their pain their employers werent prepared and now they are working in a hazardous environment without proper PPE nevertheless Id rather be selfish than dead|0 No Youre right But theyve been doing that anyway They are just saying it now|0 This is really Chinas 911 I have relatives in Beijing and the front gate of their apartment complex has armed soldiers in addition to civilian security guards now They even built a temporary barracks to house the soldiersThe only time I have ever seen something similar in the US was in the aftermaths of 911 when armed National Guards were everywhere in NYC|1 I got super sick a day or two before someone with the virus was found in my state A lot of symptoms similar to what Ive read Fortunately not sick enough to go to the hospital or doctor and Ive selfquarantined Id love to take a test if any were available I went several semicrowded places the day before I started feeling sick though I wonder how many people are going through something similar|0 The protocol for most countries The US as main example is to test sick people who have been to China or had contact with an infected Very insufficient After Italy got hit my country Spain has change the protocol to test anyone with pneumonia whatever the history 10 cases discovered in the last 36 hours|0 I prefer the theory that the mortalityseverity rate is way overestimated because the disease is so new and mild cases are identical to a cold This suggests that people have been hospitalized for pneumonia etc at a slightly elevated rate but not enough to cause suspicion|0 Did anyone try to stop him or everyone was recording it|0 You mustnt understand statistics Its a core tenet that by examining a sample of a population you can infer information about the larger population This is why election polls are so importantUsing the icecream analogy if you see that 20 of 100 served order chocolate then you can legitimately infer that about 200 of 1000 will do the same or 2000 of 10000By only examining already served customers you take out the 222 days queue time variable and also further complexity caused by a rapidly or exponentially growing queue length Simply look at already served customers and you will know what follows With disease there are only 2 possible outcomes recovery or death So by examining resolved outcomes we can approximate outcomes for all known cases Its perfectly logical Another advantage of this is that you can examine served customers all the time and improve the accuracy|1 Most of the cases have been and are in China which is under insane censorship controls You can still find videos from China but its mostly from people who arent necessarily sick themselves but just documenting it There was one guerrilla journalist who was documenting it but the Chinese police were after him and last I heard was that they got to it a few weeks ago and put him in an involuntary quarantine even though he hadnt been showing symptoms I dont know what his current status is x200BIN regards to people outside of China and in specifically in the West I dont think there have been really that many cases to be expecting tons of survivor videos When youre sick and you know youre sick with a dangerous new virus the last thing on your mind is vlogging for lookyloos especially if theyre in a quarantined unit at a hospital Many people are older and probably arent particularly involved in social media anyway|1 as much as it seems counter intuitive their lives are also precious Medical advancements are a tide that raises all boats and we can all benefit from these doctors and test subjects|1 Sending sick people there not well people|0 Sorry I didnt realize that my comment looks like a horror movie plot|0 That was because they changed the top officials in Hebei He changed the definition of confirmed cases to clear up the backlog He did it so the many of the patients will be blamed to the predecessor so he doesnt look bad But I would say the numbers are not far off When CT scan shows a pneumonia patients have both lungs infected its pretty much confirmed they have coronavirus But due to the backlog of the testing kit confirmation process they can only be treated as possible or likely which can delay the treatment they get So by changing the definition it allows those people get proper treatment and patients with minor symptoms in the queue are moving to the front of the line for testing with kits or sequencing This can prevent patients with minor symptoms to further spread the virus Before we have PCR or sequencing technique diagnostics were done in a similar manner This will cause some misdiagnostic like noncoronavirus related pneumonia patients put under same treatment But when you are in situations so bad like this trying to have the highest accuracy will only cause damage to more patients|1 There is no notice CDC is still recommending not buying masks Your masks means nothing if the society breaks down|0 Because feel like dying but will recover with bed rest and hydration requires the same amount of medical care as having the sniffles|1 You cant really blame them The media has been the boy who cried wolf for decades and now that theres an actual wolf its biting all of us in the ass|0 Figures as much if youve ever played the game pandemic Madagascar is always one step ahead|1 Not unless I run over them with my truck Ive seen plenty of criminals with guns get absolutely destroyed by people without them You dont get out much eh|0 This sounds like the Philippines response|1 No it doesnt The death vs recovered was around 5050 or 3565 for a long time during the early phases of Wuhans outbreak|1 I want to punch him in his nasty smug face Gosh people like that literally gross me out on so many levels|0 HuzzahKnowledge wants to be free|1 I felt like I wrote this post 1000 same way|1 Similar came here cause I couldnt understand why in the fuck China was quarantining an entire province for like 100 ppl sick Like what the fuck arent they saying Now we know|0 I heard the PM is looking to holiday to Hawaii again|1 If all 6 kids are really sick very unlikely to be covid 19|0 Greetings from Italy Stop all social eventsEveryone under self isolationClose all schools all non essential businessesStop this thing now think of the healthcare workers|1 Which any person could do the same with this price system Theres no problem solved|0 At my job every single one of us could easily work from home In fact we do so at times But I was made aware today that my boss thinks its all a joke and a conspiracy to try to get Trump out of office I had to hear about what he thinks about our current governor and its so stupid hes declaring a state of emergency and how he thinks its ridiculous He said shes not doing a single thing to change anything in his life I noticed him coughing into his hand and also touching his face We have people over 70 our team It looks like were not getting to work from home even though it makes the most sense to do everything we can to slow it down|0 Good man Or woman as the case may be|1 Steamed broccoli is pretty good mate|1 Nice try FBI|1 Also I pray for the brave Chinese journalists who tried to expose the truth but got kidnapped and now disappeared They are the real Chinese who want to see the better future of China Also little kids who were put in a same bag when they died as if they were animals along with many alive patients who got incarcerated|1 Many Americans including myself hate the imperialist history and policies of the USA Some of us push toward diplomacy and fraternit but the militaryindustrial complex is deeply entrenched At any rate I love this thread |1 This is fucking disgusting|0 Hi man My country is close to China and we already have detected indected and started stocking food supply etc i have question i have a dog and i live in apartment is ok to me to have dog or i need to send my dog to country side with less humans|1 I think it was in the WHO report that was published a week ago Ill try to find it|0 Of course theyre not testing so they dont have to admit the numbers it is obscene and half of the country is just like meh|0 My instincts tell me it isnt and that Ill just be slightly ahead of the inevitable curve I think people will think its weird as fuck though|0 Imagine being a novelist and finding out that the leaders of a nucleararmed country of 14 billion people are angry at you|0 My older relatives assure me this is a ploy by the main stream media to ruin Trump getting reelected|0 Logistics kept Mean1Things especially food still in shops No problems with water Any shortages already 2Stored some reserve food in home |0 now lying crushed at the bottom of a large wicker basket|0 Ive visited a few local hospitals in the last few weeks and they seem to be taking this seriously I sat in a waiting room for 30 min the other day and I swear the lady doing the checkins must have cleaned every inch of the admin area 6 times while I sat there And the doctors I asked said they were having meetings about preparations|0 Thats incredibly unhealthy man|0 Hi so Ill try to answer the questionsHave you heard anything about whether cases are leveling off if this is expected to continue for several more monthsAt the moment we really dont know Experts say we havent reach the peak yet and the aim is to get there very slowly to give hospitals the time to organise Is there any issues with water electricity phones internet I was wondering about Internet since everyone is staying at homeAt the moment no In fact a lot of telephone companies are giving free gb As for water normally our tub water is drinkable and were not having problem with thatx200BCan many people work from homeYes a lot of people can work from home that depends on their job tho But there are some categories that have to go to a work place at the moment the categories allowed to work outside home are doctors nurses people who work in the health system in general farmers people who work in supermarket people who produce essencial goods truck drivers petrol stations and so on I can tell you that the most affected categories are people who work with tourism restaurants cafe film industry creative industry theatre and much morex200BI hope I was able to give you and idea even if I dont have all infomation at hand|1 Teslas deliveries are always delayed though|0 No worries I think Im sensitive due to stocks and companies taking a beating in the US|0 This IS political This incompetent administration is now causing people die Period Its not even debatable|0 There are so many explanations as to why the first diagnosed cases have the higgest CFR Time lag is possible but seeing that Jan 2131 was almost a month ago i dont think thats the most likely reason|0 Whats wrong with his logic If you could see a flaw youd speak it|0 He says as discussed spreads halfway around the world Great analysis Sherlock|1 Maybe Is this affordablecovered by most plans in the US even if you can get it prescribed Could be that no matter the country you might be screwed if this is what you need Id speculate that if the UK wont pay for it your average PPO isnt all that willing either|0 Can we please get a slowmo group walk badass montage please|1 The naysayers I see dont even care about flaws They have a set idea and everything is fine About the only time they may change their mind is if directly affects them|0 I hear what you are saying but I dont think the public would react calm and rational in the face of an imminent threat You are right that would be the smart and most logical way to handle it though|1 Whats the source please|1 Im in love with Dr Amy Acton Probably be the head of the CDC in 2021|1 But then how will I know if Im infected or if I should worry|0 Riverside county Low levels of panic but Ive also never seen so many people going into my local CVS before State has apparently given up on quarantines at all and is focusing now on social distancing and cancelling large gatherings although IMO they should have shut down schools and pretty much all public works weeks agoI already stocked up so I havent been out in a couple days except to work I work with the public unfortunately and theres been much fewer than normal people coming in|0 Curiously in spanish Falla also means fails I live in Malaga 4 confirmed positives and at this moment everything looks like too normal although positives in Spain goes over 70 The feeling is that the situation is totally under control Its a little bit scary|1 burnnnnnDont worry once the water breaks your fire will be extinguished|0 I commented on another thread about one of the Harvard guys tweets but I think its worth saying again because he is abusing the reputation that comes with his titleThat guy has been losing his mind on Twitter all week each time a non peerreviewed study comes outHe is the same guy that put out the HOLY MOTHER OF GOD tweet in reaction to a different preprint study that ended up being completely wrong Id link it but shockingly it looks like he deleted it|0 So now a line that wouldnt raise an eyebrow if a comedian said it is too vulgar for Reddit If we cant makes jokes like that then we shouldnt be allowed to post vulgar content of any kind Including videos of sick people dying from this virus outbreak Good luck banning everyone that posts something like that Youll remove half of the user base with rules that strict Not to mention theres regularly far not violent and specific comments left all over the site everyday without any repercussionsThey werent inciting violence and the comment was not directed at anyone|1 Mr Bean in Rat Race its a race Its a race I hope I weeen|1 Band name generator best option for naming the virus|1 I guess you could advertise a party or something on Craigslist and find out Try screaming AM I BEING DETAINED I AM A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN Cops love it when you do that|1 how many are asymptomatic holy shit|0 Adults are better at washing their hands and protecting themselves Well at least most of themAny kid above 10 tends to be perfectly able to go to toileteat prepared food or to watch the TV I dont see a reason not to let them stay at home alone during times like this|1 A conspiracy to distribute drugs maybe not the highly complex conspiracies often invoked by conspiacy theorists Those often requires at least the tacit approval of multiple actors|0 It takes very few personnel to run a water plant My uncle worked at one for a small Midwest city and the plant only had three employees Theyd each work 24 hrs including sleeping part of their shift at the plant Just needed someone to be there in case something happened but most of the work was automated routines and knowing what to do in an emergency|0 Yeah is it weird i think about how we are living in that special part of the text book where kids read it and are like wow they are so stupid Short answer What is partisan politics and how did it lead to horrible abuses by the Trump administration|0 You just wait till you get extremely sick to the point of near death and go to the emergency ward where they have to treat you You know and make it 10x more costly than if you received medical help when you werent in a near death state|0 It does not mean that people dont care or dont see whats going on but everything is ran by governments big pharma and Ecorps What can you do|0 I think its probable we might have to do intermittent quarantines Most people develop symptoms in 45 days and are contagious for a couple weeks so shutting everything down for 34 weeks lets you deal with the exponentially growing wave and prevent further infectionsThen you stop the quarantines for a while and the next wave builds and then you shut down again and so on We cant keep the global economy on hold for months without a break so that might have to happen|0 If you have access to water nearby like a stream or river neighbors pool you might want to look into purchasing a heavy duty gravity fed water filter We have one that will filter over ten thousand gallons It was only about a hundred dollars and it fits in our closet|1 you just likes a joker|1 I wont lie Americans have a hard time covering their mouth when they cough or sneeze Like Im sitting in class and everyone is coughing and sneezing into the air and Im like wtf|0 Its sweet that you and your mother are both caring for each other Can you get delivery to your house In Australia it costs very little to get groceries deliveredIt is awful that you feel like you need to hunker down because of your health conditions Thats hard on your mental health as wellWould keeping your vitamin C and D levels up be helpful as well It does seem like youre doing all you can right now|1 Makes me laugh that people believe a government that covered up things like Grenfell couldnt possibly have ulterior motives|1 It likely means the viral material was never fully gone and they were retested showing they were positive Im not sure if theyre testing prior to release from quarantine but I would be surprised if that were the caseWith particular lower lung infections this type of material can remain for quite some time but again doesnt necessarily mean theres virus|1 I am unfamiliar with the way you use the word baudrier google says it means harness Like a climbing harness What do you mean using it in this context|1 I will not even bother getting tested The old and the sick should stay home The healthy just as usual|1 Pretty sure they showed a pic of him on the news I dont want to speak ill of the dead but he looked about 300lbs and had supposedly already suffered a heart attack in the past so this guy was very unhealthy|0 The masks dont protect you from getting infected They protect you potentially infected from exhaling on others potentially not infectedWrong because Jonathan Ball professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham said In one well controlled study in a hospital setting the face mask was as good at preventing influenza infection as a purposemade respiratorJust pay attention as usual what is being written on the headline has very little to do with realityhttpswwwrnzconznewsnational408255wuhancoronavirusfacemasksdonothingvirologist|0 Actually their system as set up as sorta a meritocracy You need to succeed at a local level before being able to manage a city and then up and up|1 Yes officer this one right here|1 Alot of place wont donate good because they dont wanna be liable for food poisoning Ive worked at a few restaurants and this is common And Im not talking expired food|0 this number puts me slightly at ease for today but i still feel like as you say a drastic surge may be inevitable also i cant shake the thought that these numbers are a few days outdated due to the up to 5 day lag time in testing so maybe that drastic surge has already happened |1 No hard D Panemic|0 Thats a perfect way to die Maybe thats the answer Elder care in this country sucks Im a long way from it but when I start to get old I plan on taking myself out one way or another before I end up in a shitty old folks home|0 My partner is currently 9 weeks pregnant and let me tell you it is a scary time|0 Out here in the fieldsI fought for my meals coronavirus test|0 Lines were longer than normal at my Costco today Lost of older people with copious amounts of meds and booze|0 That was the case with China but it got better since less healthy people tend to just die quicker and those in recovery struggles to the end|0 Need to see if it climbs back after people start to work last wk probably better to wait for numbers next wk|1 Seems like its Europe as a whole Im kinda appalled by how the governement here in France just seems to stubbornly want to prove a point by intentionally avoiding any preventive measure And while im completely against fake news panic and all that i find it extremely irresponsible to pretend its not there trying to stop selling masks etcI dont think its the end of the world but i dont think its completely harmless either And i think that we should take measures regardless of how dangerous it is just as we would for a cold or a flu We dont pretend those dont exist and try to embrace them We know they arent that bad but we usually still take precautions dont go to workschool if youre sick etcSo i really dont get why some especially the higher ups are so obstinate with trying to avoid ALL preventive measures because its just immature and irresponsible I mean its infuriating enough that we pretend like the elderly and people who are susceptible to getting serious strains of the virus dont matter that they should just go die and we dont need them its just sad to me Oh im a healthy person so it doesnt matter to me Not cool not cool|0 I havent cried this hard since Mighty no 9s release|0 Fellow Brit here People have been likening this crisis to WW2 but those days seem like something of a Golden age compared with this situationIn WW2 we had a truly great leader who rallied us who reminded us that united we stand divided we fall Now in our postBrexit society we have the most divided population since the fucking Civil War and were lead by the human equivalent of a soggy biscuit An entire class of crooks who have torn us apart for their own sorded interestsEven in the darkest hours of WW2 we managed to come together and find hope I fear that hope is gone and we will devolve even further than we have these last few years into selfish hopeless creatures It will be every man for himselfBut at least Liverpool will never lift the PL trophy|0 Good Im 0 Bad Husband and kids are A|0 I would be happy to do them too if you would give me permission to do so|1 Looks like the epicenter for this one will be californiaThis brings up a lot of logistical issues California is one of the most connected states to the rest of the country From LAX and SFO you can pretty much reach 200 cities directly in North America If things start to take off flights to and from CA will need to be restrictedOn a more thorny issue there is the problem of reenacting Hubei in the US Would it be constitutional for other states to start turning away cars with CA plates or anyone with a california ID Not sure that the full faith and credit clause will mean anything if the governors of Arizona Nevada and Oregon decide to enforce a roadblock leading in and out of the state|1 The Midwest area of the US is going to be bad NOTHING is closing Our employers arent doing work from home even though they can One school actually did close because a student tested positive after attending events with students from a bunch of other schools which are not closing I live 40 minutes from a confirmed case and nobody that I know is quarantined 40 minutes here is an average commute for work and shopping and everything People are still shopping going to events with tons of people playing sports etc like nothing is happening Everyone at work has been coughing for a couple weeks and my work place sent out a memo implying that were not going to get coronavirus from work because its cleaned regularly in reality its cleaned every month or so Im seriously wondering if theres a way to self quarentine and keep my job or if I even want to ever come back here|1 Having gloves actually makes you less likely to touch your face It just feels weirdCouple that with the fact they can be lathered in hand sanitizer or spritzed with dilute bleach to sanitize them over and over without worrying about your skin And worse case you chuck them before going back into your car or houseI work in research and wearing gloves is second nature as is dousing them with ethanol every few minutes Its something I sorely miss when in public|1 Many people know where she is the press interviewed her not long ago DrLis friends also stay contact with her|1 as far as i can tell they werent ranked lowest by the international community but by a usa based think tank world health organization has been complimentary about their healthcare|1 They have actually been pretty slow because of people wanting to avoid the doctor haha if you are worried you can ask for a mask at the front desk They likely hid them behind the counter due to people stealing them lol|1 But you know most of the people in China are already cured and now most likely immune to the virus|1 Free treatment is also necessary is it not|1 no the average poor american|0 Im in LR Arkansas too and just came back from downtown Chicago and now have a bad chest cold or something bad cough First time ive seen another arkansan on here that affirmed im not the only one scared even if I try to channel it into being prepared Best of health and thanks for being upbeat even in the light of how nerve wracking it is|0 Can you explain to me why its not just the flu Everybody I know is saying its just the flu Is it more deadly or something|1 or they realize that commercial airlines are all cancelling their flights to the country with more regional countries limiting access to people crossing from China and they want to get Americans out And dont want to have possibly months of people here complaining about how they have family members stuck in the country|0 Lets hope to the end of the year |1 does the majority in this sub actually believe this virus is gonna be worse than H1N1 Or be the end of the world Legit question|0 Nice If everyone is wearing mask Im pretty sure that it will help and reduce the infection for sure|1 I dont trust 99 of msm left or rightIts all partisan filled with deliberate misinformation and often baldfaced lying propaganda to sell eyes and adsHad YOU linked to Tuckers actual show mentioned and offered your own assessment and commentary I would have been quite content to upvote it and give it due considerationYou blindly reposting a repeatedly reposted in msm dreck piece deserves draggingThinking the comments are A organic B not curated or C normal avg Americans shows a level of naivity that is alarming in this day and ageTHINK about what you are reading and sharing Use your critical thinking vs going with the crowd|0 Belgium needs to be added to the list Our Federal Government has decided to shut down schools social gatherings restaurantsbars and other cultural activities like movie theaters and musea|1 This is terrifying|0 I am self employed I dont even get sick pay Is this the start of the next stage where the ones who can afford to stay at home start pointing fingers at the ones who cant stay at homeIm right with ya Hope you are safe and do what you gotta do|1 Soap and water are the most effective way to clean your hands|1 Edit didnt want a live discussion damn with this and live streams and the new JavaScript UI on the site Im wondering why is Reddit hellbent on turning into shit|0 This is sort of a case of a day late and a dollar short The cat is out of the bag now but better late than never|1 Why are the chinese not asking for help they Cleary need it and the lack of a free press there is make people feel uncomfortable if all we have to go on is videos of people panickingI think it would help alot if they came out and were more honest|0 People Yes Cattle No|1 nice projection dweeb|1 I have been to Russia Arbitrary stoppage is normal for tourists You can be stopped in the metros or on the street|0 Thanks|1 we dont want everyone taking the test its not necessary this will passWHAT THE FUCK DUDE|0 Not saying she necessarily infected everyone but its interesting to consider all the ways a contagious disease could be spread during church It said she was there for 2 hours I dont know what Korean churches are like but back when I attended Church people would mingle before the service During the service they pass around an offering bowl for people to donateI mean imagine if the virus got on that and then how many other people touched it Or if they did communion Priest hands her a piece of bread their hands touch then Priest uses his hand to continue giving bread to everyone else Then there may be more mingling after the service|1 We live in interesting times What is happening is everyone is resulting to minor news outlets reporting local cases that get reposted on large places like this The problem is that the CDC and Gov is obviously trying to do some damage control Ill assume that the update for corona numbers being reported at 11AM daily by King County went out the window|0 Its a private company they dont have to worry about wall street|1 The context was specifically China killing petsIf China overall not just a few officials thought that pet transmission was a thing they wouldve told usI know everyones hating on them but they dont want the virus to a killing all their customers or b come back into ChinaThey told everyone about asymptomatic transmission high rate of false negatives outlier lengthy incubation periods and people testing positive after recovery They wouldve mentioned pets if they had data suggesting they were a vector More than that theyd have systematically killed them all infected or not as they have done with pigs and chickens for other diseases Theyre not doing that so they dont think its a thing|0 Future checking in here 10 days ago was great|1 Either way people will never be happy Id worry more when stop publishing|0 I wouldnt be surprised if a lot there are from mardi gras too Ugh this is a headache man|0 Not a medical degree and certainly not professors|1 Its a joke because of plagueinc game where Madagascar and Greenland are quite hard to be infectedBut well Situation isnt funny at all|1 Where did anyone say they wished others would die because the comment chain says Boomers are in for a rough time Good maybe theyll stop abusing the environment if they stay insideNowhere is there a death wish said or implied|0 Ill be bugging in once it hits my country|0 You have to assume that at some point theyre going to get a positive a result so hopefully theyre going to start preparing the workers for heightened awarenesscontainment now|1 Under such circumstances where the control is more rigorous dont you think the officers at the border would be more cautious regarding mismatches between documents Come on Is it that hard to understand Have you read the article at all The author basically grabbed everything out of thin air Didnt even bother to think a more realistic names for the characters involved|0 No if that were the case China wouldnt have converted all those stadiums and exhibition centers to quarantine centers for asymptomaticmildly symptomatic patientsDont know where the myth China doesnt test asymptomaticmild symptom come from my guess is people upset Chinese numbers are dropping but theres overwhelming evidence to the contraryHaving said that if France really is only testing highly symptomatic then it would be closer to the US CDC guidelines closer but still better since CDC require the person to already be in critical|0 The weather where I am has been chilly but sunny The crocus are starting to come up the birds are singing and the air smells like spring Ive been taking my dog for long walks twice a day She wears her doggie smile and I end up smiling too from just how lovely everything is|1 This one got me pretty good httpsimgurcomXN0TnRxjpg|1 Well there are serving utensils shared including spoons and even typical meals are presented familystyle But the share the same spoon wording makes it sound like something different|1 I guarantee you paranoid redditors that not 1 person in the US will die from this|0 Yup I saw the leak a few days before Christmas and started taking action and warning people when I refused to march in a local parade last week I was called paranoid but I got plenty of supplies and kept my kid home 2 weeks already moved my pension to safe and low risk on January 6 and saved 2 mortgage payments rather than waste money on dining out and socializing Lastly my gas tank has been tapped off to full every 2 days In a couple months has might be very valuable|1 Fuck As useless as an atheist prayers are I will give them|0 Look at your history mate youre just saying That doesnt answer my question to people and then blocking everyone Very odd|0 Thanks for the tip but I live in locked down silicon valley and Im a vegetarian Heh at least I am used to eating rice and beans so thats no big deal for me and Im guaranteed to eat up the supplies even if Im wrong and this passes quickly Stay healthy|0 CLOSE THEM NOW BAN EVERYONE FROM COMING BACKTHE HOSPITALS IN BEJING ARE ALREADY JUST AS FUCKED|0 Dems are electing trump lol|1 Just treat the symptoms like every other virus There not much else to be doneIve been sick for a month after having traveled across the USA three times in three weeks|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Hardly Most people in the states will refuse I would depending on how strict the orders are|0 Yes I know what my coworkers reaction would be So I just keep mum Nothing to see here folks Move along|1 South Korea numbers basically show that this virus mortality rate is a lot lower than 3|0 Good job Dont worry about what others think|1 This always looks like theyre taking turns at roasting someone|1 Currently in italy and as an American and I can tell you the health services here compaired to the rest of Europe and US arent that great Then again maybe its because Im in Sicily|0 Exactly I wish people would listen and understand this|1 Hospitals are being strangely quiet for having so much free speech|1 Yep how convenient that their strategy is exactly in line with capacity|1 I mean to be fair its very much like a bad pandemic of influenza which we experienced arguably twice or three times in the 20th century|0 But they have had to institute these systems in a matter of days For that kind of volume They are closing them now I think they just needed a little bit of time to prepare for their most impoverishedfood insecure students|0 No just no stop|0 Cotton gloves would be fine because you are hopefully not immersing your hands in virusfilled liquid but difficult to clean The benefit of latexnitrile is that you just take them off and toss them|1 ebaycom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Its clear whom CDC will pick and count for the number of confirmed patients severely ill patients and NOT people with mild symptoms Why because the 2nd group will recover themselves on their own and CDC will do anything to keep the confirmed cases low I thought their job was to do everything to protect public health Testing the nurse is obviously important If she is confirmed 1 this presents an opportunity to make improvements in how to protect other healthcare workers 2 they would start contact tracing and warn people at risk to selfquarantine as well|1 Everyone at my work thinks its a joke Theyve nicknamed me doomsday and all laugh when I try to warn them to get ready|1 You dont wait until a man who is overweight and in his 70s who also happens to be the leader of this country gets sick before you test himSo hes worthy of the test when hes showing zero symptoms but the plebs have to wait until theyre just about in the ICU to get a test Fuck outta here|0 A man of true morals|1 Following criticisms yesterday over inclusion of ibuprofen and other antiinflammatory painkillers to treat the symptoms of corona virus NHS has changed their suggestion to use paracetamol insteadx200BThere has been suggestion that NSAID painkillers could actually negatively affect those suffering from the symptoms of COVID19|0 Its an artifact of binary thinking which I think gets amplified with online discussion In this case its either the end times or nothing at all when the reality is likely to be somewhere in the very wide space betweenIts also tricky to rely on a lot of media outlets when their pocketbooks are reliant on repeatedly attracting as many eyeballs as possible They have no problem at all with pinging our brains for a fear response if it means a few more ad impressions|0 He certainly is|1 I mean if someone kills hundreds with their vagina I wanna hear about it|0 I am pretty sure Japan is already overwhelmed by them Japan has about 4 ICU beds per 100000 compared to most western countries which have 7 to 26 ICU beds per 100000 Chinese hospitals were very quick to convert additional quarantine beds and was still not enough For example there was one story of an early Chinese doctor expanding quarantine beds to 16 and his colleagues thought he was being too extreme A few days later they needed to make this 66If I had to guess Japanese hospitals will be much much slower at this process It will be a lot of shoganai well weve never done that before so we cant do it I wouldnt be surprised if Tokyo gets hit at levels similar to Wuhan by the end of it During SARS epidemic their ECMO units were far less effective due to lack of training Im not sure well Japan is more developed will do much to save people when you have a lobby full of sick people Unlike Wuhan Japan wont shut down Tokyo any time during the early phaseWe are already seeing very similar pattern government refuses to test noncontact patients until last minute because they worry the tourism will decrease olympics might be impacted The government blames the infected quarantine officer for improper mask use instead of Damn maybe quarantine physicians need full suits because I think they are worried that people will get worried once they realize how bad it will be|0 You are a fool|0 Synthetic plasmid DNA controls can be bought from the same places that you buy primers and probes from Its not quite as good as using known positivenegative RNA but they serve as a decent controlshttpswwwidtdnacompageseducationdecodedarticleassaysandsequencesfor2019ncovdetectionandvaccinedevelopmentThe disclaimers at the bottom of the page are actually pretty hilarious The website was up since Feb 10 and probably the COVID materials were available even earlier|1 Well what about the job postings by the wuhan lab about investigating bat coronavirus I dont know if man made or anything but to say that the lab isnt the most likely cause of the outbreak at this point is silly|1 Oh I see now This was removed by automod because of the word trump not critisizing dear leader It also is a filter not a removal We have a sticky on the front page explaining why|0 BuzzFeed News actually has high quality investigative journalism from Pulitzerprize winning journalistsBuzzFeed proper is the trash listicles that pollute the internet Ironically the normal BuzzFeed crap ad revenue is what pays for their high quality journalismThey really should rebrand BuzzFeed News to something entirely different and nonassociableBut anyways BusinessInsider should be considered reputable IMO|0 Wisconsin In Eau Claire on Friday my brother wasnt able to find a parking spot at a grocery store so he drove to another and still had to park somewhere else He said the place was swarming with people No toilet paper bleach or soup on the shelves My uncle posted photographs of another grocery store in Lake Hallie also with barren shelves and enormous crowds He waited in line for a hour to checkout Mom says the school district in Milwaukee is shutting down|0 I am not qualified to dispute your statement Thank you for correcting me|1 I dont know man I am British national but I am residing in Bulgaria at the moment We are working from home and the government declared state of emergency at 2030 casesA lot of people here are acting dumb too but still things are done malls closed and more measures will probably be undertaken I am really scared about my family especially the elders back home|0 im afraid such a virus would be a real doomsday scenario Too high of a mortality rate|0 Yeah makes sense|1 Do you know what a business isI have worked in the electrical utility industry for more than 10 years Its not a handout Its not a public service Im not sure what your agenda here is supposed to accomplish A coop IoU or municipality are meant to provide a service to the respective community and will also expect payment for those services Why should an internet company be different|1 Its a multifaceted problem that has created this mess we are in 1 the cost of pharmaceuticals is out of control 2 We overtestoverscan patients as a cya measure 3 people with free care abuse emergency rooms 4 Doctors spend an inordinate amount of time on chartingpaperwork|0 Theyre lucky to get this How many servers are actually paying taxes on everything they earn Sure it sucks for them but peoples lives outweigh a temporary salary hit|1 It could definitely do damage to people like Netflix as well if film companies find they profit massively from this type of release|1 And those upvotes are primarily from whites go figure Its weird social media woke culture|0 File unemployment I claimed it once when laid off by Uncle Sam|0 Its counterculture in politics People are so desperate for something different theyll take huge gambles on anyone outside the establishment Obamas first campaign ran on similar theories Bernies current and previous primary attempts are working to fill the same void on the opposite side of the coin|0 This is racistOne of my biggest concerns living in London was the absence of bidetProbably you never have in your lifetime the nice idea to wash you ass after every shitJust swipe with paper again and againSo mate please stop blaming my country and go fuck yourself and your full of shit asshole|0 No it does not Check your facts|0 Thanks I hadnt seen that Its crazy how quickly this kind of info changes So far I was mostly concerned about surfaces|1 theyre really just pissed that their 10999 scam has been exposed|0 Fairly sure I have a family member working at that one Its so slow they have to be rupturing money anyway I grew up a few miles from Tulalip and I agree with other commenters that the tribes are going to listen to the feds and probably no one else Unless it becomes more profitable to close and stop paying employees than remain open|1 Oof recovery s for today were super low Was hoping to see more|1 Thats not funny anymore|0 A bunch of my coworkers were sick the last 2 weeks Just now clearing up for everyone here|0 Save newspaper and rub the pages together to soften them|1 I dont think its serious enough to cancel plans especially between two places without outbreaks Still wouldnt go to iranJust take small extra precautions and if you exhibit symptoms self quarantine until you are certain|1 Only for parents who dont have childcare and need the government to help them keep working It will still drastically limit the number of kids and teachers interacting with each otherWe cant lock everyone down or there would be no people to care for us or keep us fed|1 httpswwwchinadailycomcna20190222WS5c6f11daa3106c65c34eaaf7htmlhttpswwwglobaltimescncontent1177725shtmlThis is a well known fact Please stop spreading misinformation on this sub Continued misinformation can be grounds for a temporary ban If you think this data is untrue please provide sources showing the Chinese flu data is accurate|0 Fuck the US for trying to pull this shit goddamn monkey man in charge over here|0 My college is having comprehensive exams this week and all the online students are flying in They refuse to postpone What could go wrong|0 Blessings to you For this virus its much better to be seen as overreacting than to let shit hit the fan and then be blamed why didnt they do more beforehand|1 Agreed I edited my original post because that piece of my meaning wasnt clear|1 Its a good point I suspect after the medics were there trying to save her they may have said they couldnt leave because it was a potential infection spot once they saw her condition They went into isolation also it seems so perhaps the case Plus he was very highly likely infected from doing CPR so they likely got ordered not to leave Just a guess though Im sure theres a lot of confusion also|0 Having a 1 in 5 chance of ending up in a ICU seems pretty fucking bad to me Its like everybody forgot about the first US case in Washington Guy Im his 30s with no known preexisting conditions ended up with pneumonia then went into serious condition needed a ventilator and was give an experimental drug as a compassion treatment which thankfully worked|1 He didnt get tested cause he was a celebrity It was because he was in a country with a better healthcare system|1 And literally the mayor of Miami is now infected How much more of a warning do you need|0 Just think about it theres like a few hundred people sick then mostly old people Now think about what percentage of people are active on reddit Maybe 01 Of old people 0005 The numbers are tiny and lack of any insiders with serious illness recording it is proof that it is|0 I hope youre right But even so I cant see us out of this by May And with deaths I can see the shockwave hitting it anyway|1 It is not easy to assure that no infections among those peoplebut confirm that the risk is quite low since that China is still in high alert and people are required to wear a mask outside|0 People only care about themselves|1 At the end of the day people blame governments and health institutions but the real culprits are those who underestimate the situation My country was the first to have a recorded death outside Mainland China and I think it hit us hard But at the end of the day we only have 3 confirmed cases one of whom already died I am so proud of the fact that the virus seems to have been pretty much contained and kept out of the country|0 Dont wear a lifejacket in the ocean they are only 95 effective CDCAlso if the healthcare workers need masks then why is the government selling them in public auction httpsgsaauctionsgovgsaauctionsaucdsclnksl71QSCI20292041fbclidIwAR2mIARxWW59uPKTxTzyp4sbawcwvfflAxzTwxaoY9ilUEWwu6aFNk6oM|1 What is it like|1 You could also feel glad that you finally woke up to reality Its not pretty it is what is isYou dont need the government to survive|1 I also forgot to add the hard work part and utilizing worldly mediums like science and other fields of reliable research to help you out|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I want to know how many infected people under age 50 are not in the ICU|0 I stopped buying things except for meat and vegetables a while ago Im stocked so I stopped shopping as soon as TP started running out Im not trying to help cause a shortage|0 Funny that in China local government try to cover up and central made a correction While in our case the central government just fup|1 I add some drops like 10 to 12 of essential oils too Like orange or lavender Im thinking that cant be unhealthy|1 Lie Honestly Id start coughing so hard I couldnt speak This is ridiculous|0 Ive been at 997 for a few days I havent had contact with any known infected person but I have been to the Colorado and Detroit airports recently so Im not sure if I should try to get tested or not|0 The musicians played today out of their windows though|1 At this rate will be the Spanish flu 20|0 aye same here Kind of makes the shutdown rumour seems more of a possible reality I completely understand when it has to happen but its still scary to think of|0 this is wrong they are testing people below 65 if they have to be hospitalized or are in a risk group But you are right there is selective testing|0 Then again being exposed to germs is the only way to build up your immune system and keep it working to fight against germs and bacteria Immune systems are not static Counterintuitive I know|1 He is terminator sent by skynet to cause mass panic via social media during global pandemic period of 2020|0 In the middle of declaring National EmergencyWe believe the risk of Coronavirus is low|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im a stupid American so I cant read the article|0 Sigh I thought government in this damn world are all a mess except for Japans but I guess I am wrong They should probably go on reddit more often to seek for better information|0 I dont think youre correct about their knowledge of disease at the time But your comment did prompt me to do some research As it turns out theres only one historical documented case I can find of Europeans attempting to intentionally infect Native Americans with smallpoxhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwhistorycomampnewscolonistsnativeamericanssmallpoxblanketshttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSiegeofFortPittThis event is best known as an early instance of biological warfare where the British gave items from a smallpox infirmary as gifts to Native American emissaries with the hope of spreading the deadly disease to nearby tribes The effectiveness is unknown although it is known that the method used is inefficient compared to respiratory transmission and these attempts to spread the disease are difficult to differentiate from epidemics occurring from previous contacts with colonists|1 Young people are gonna cut in line when it comes to triage over old people too Given the choice to only save one most docs are gonna save the 20 or 30 something over the 70 something|1 Yeah it can be faked even on a mobile You could even edit it directly from typing into the url box only lol My first thoughts though was they accidently input the confirmed infections as deaths since those numbers are very similar|1 Guys I apologize for the outdated report Unfortunately after 2000 WHO never did another report It is safe to assume that this information inaccurate I found a different article but couldnt find the source so take it with a grain of salt Countries with the Best Health Care systemshttpsceoworldbiz20190805revealedcountrieswiththebesthealthcaresystems2019|1 China would never infect their own people China 1 Is my social score up Oh I forgot Im not in the Napoleon Coronavirus subs that all have the same mods Fuck you CCP|0 Nope middle over no where in Allegheny county|1 Well put Republicans arent suggesting the government cover sick leave costs for the benefit of the people receiving it They want the government to cover it to help businesses They are so far down the corporate socialist rabbit hole that they are popping out the other side and proposing apparently left wing policies Left and right are ending up in the same place in this situation but for very different reasons|1 If there was a 10 mortality rate there would be a lot more anecdotal evidence of thousands of people falling seriously ill and dying because based on how fast the virus spread in wuhan the estimate of how many cases there are in Iran is in the ten of thousandshttpswwwthestarcomnewscanada20200225iranmayhavemanymorecoronaviruscasesthanreportedcanadianresearchsuggestshtml|0 Mobile self isolation tents|0 You are so dense You probably get baited by onion headlines and facebook antivax group headlines Its amazing somebody can do so much good in the world and be ridiculed and slandered by idiots|1 Quarantine camps so infected are taken away from general population so general population can work|0 The NY National Guard is not capable of the things the Army Corps of Engineers does|0 But what makes people assume those other people want to mend fences with you in the first place Isnt that dynamic a bit asymmetric On one side is a bloated citizen whose never once saw tragedy on the scale of their city being razed while on the other is possible a person who has An olive branch from the position of the person who hasnt lost anything is a funny concept to me because its like thought and prayer messages|1 Please bear a thought for the lady who will be absolutely terrified Triage is not nice but it is necessary She may well be dead in the next few weeks so the fact people have the audacity to belittle her when they them selves would probably act in the same way is heartbreaking|0 02 of high school age kids 3 would die|0 Ah alright didnt know they used the same name|1 SIX MORE DOLLARS and I wouldnt have taken this post seriously|0 I wish I had a cabin in the woods right now|1 Agreed Also I just read that the study has been officially retracted So the mods should probably take this down|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Blood pressure is a bigger risk than Coronavirus|0 Yes its good if true the timing is better than a lot of countries have managed Because of how the disease progresses 1 week incubation 1 week until the worst symptoms we probably will still have a surge into the hospitals But acting now should help to keep that surge from growing to avoid an Italylike outcome|1 This is great news so happy to see community support like this|1 Hey man youre doing really well for a layperson and if ADE is actually the culprit here the consequences could be severe httpswwwusatodaycomstorynewsnation20200219coronavirusafter2000deathscanyougetvirusagain4804905002 This would be terrible news if true because it would mean that herd immunity would be difficult to develop allowing the virus to be transmitted with impunityNah it just means its befuddles the immune response The immune system cant simultaneously evict the virus and remain susceptible to future infections at least not without further mutationADE isnt consistent Where you see it its a minority of responses The virus will have driven too long of a TH1 and TH2 response to recirculate I keep hearing rumors about individuals relapsing with the disease and getting sicker and sicker with pneumonia before expiring Isnt that typical pneumonia though My fear is that they may attempt to fasttrack a vaccine only to find that it fails in trials over and over again due to cytokine sensitization andor ADE leading to poor clinical outcomes and forcing them to go back to the drawing boardIf they cant get a TH2 vaccine to work for ADE reasons they can always try TH1 The downside of those vaccines is that they take a week to activate so from a public health perspective they dont prevent transmission But theyd curb pneumonia But youre right in that they will chase the TH2 vaccine target off a cliff because its the gold standard of prophylactic measures|0 That does help Logically I know that well make it through this |1 Yes so not credible reporting|1 ErrrrmNo risk at all here guys Remember what the catholic priest said last week Jesus didnt have germsI think the logic is undeniable really|0 I thought N95s were to protect the wearer Surgical masks are what you wear if youre the one whos sick and trying to avoid infecting others Thats what Michael Osterholm infectious disease expert said on the Joe Rogan podcast anywayThats why the public having N95s is discouraged Healthcare workers need them far more|0 I did about 250mg once I have no desire to try that againI figured I might not get the chance to do it again so I decided to try it for science reasonsMy heart was pretty much beating out of my chest for 3 hours then I hit my homeostasis and was stoned for at least another ten hoursIt was fucking ridiculous|0 According to what WHO observed in ChinahttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbt49ethewhosent25internationalexpertstochina cardiovascular diseases diabetes and high blood pressure are preexisting conditions that have the worst prognosis The US has mitigating factors but aggravating factors too|0 The white patriarchy is actually at fault White man bad|0 Thank you for sharing this study I havent seen this study before so its good to be educated You may be right and I am not trying to anchor down in making a case against itFirst of all the thought of having a nurse use Cotten masks all day sounds extremely dangerous even without looking at the result of the study They deal with all sorts of bodily fluidsbless them of many different patients which can splash and attach to the mask Also not having a standardized cleaning schedule and method is extremely problematic especially given the high level of infection exposures More issues addressed in the discussion section of the paperlimitation of this study is that we did not measure compliance with hand hygiene and the results reflect selfreported compliance which may be subject to recall or other types of bias Another limitation of this study is the lack of a nomask control group and the high use of masks in the controls which makes interpretation of the results more difficult Most people dont encounter other peoples bodily fluids like nurses do So I have difficult time applying this paper to the general public but this does made me realize that I should do more research before recommending the Cotten masks Thanks for sharing|1 How all these people going to feel after theyve killed their own parents|0 My favourite part will be when this is contained and the professional and experts manage to get us through another disaster then all the people who were in a massive panic will just continue to criticize the experts and government and all the people who worked on this problem The average doom sayer will yell about everybody but them fucked it all up and how they would have arm chaired this pandemic better than anyone else by shutting down all travel all the time as soon as the first 10 people were sick|0 I absolutely would if I could Unfortunately my parents are in a city with more than 100 cases and those are only rising by the day and Im 100 financially independent from my parents So by going home I run the risk of giving it to them if I were ever to catch it theyre older and dont have jobs themselves so asking them is an automatic no even if they wanted to help me to begin with Im almost certain myself we wont be going back to school for the rest of the semester|1 Sure lets just rely on the billionare philanthropists to provide us with all basic public services The only other thing we need a govt for then would be to do war If we then just outsource that to PMCs we could just get rid of all politicians Because who needs those anyways am I right s|0 H1n1 was famously out of reach for any containment efforts because 99 of cases were the same as the flu We used to think it was some unique virus from the flu but it wasnt at all It might say 5000 cases but by then it was in the hundreds of thousands if not millions we just assumed those cases were all the flu When we started doing more testing worldwide we realized it was already a global disease it just wasnt very deadly This is unlike Ncov which is a much more unique virus|0 Right How challenging would it be to pull off with the right people|1 Accurately it should be less likely to be smokers aka correlation rather than causality the stats like smoker rate difference between west coast cities and midwest suburbs can back this up|1 Yea the ones without bars wonder how crazy that was when the govt or whoever just showed up and started doing that suddenly Wonder if there are artifacts of struggles or violence in front of any homes blood or the sort All of this is scary Reverse zombie movie where you keep people locked in|0 I feel this also every little tickle in my throat or every minor sniffle makes me think Ive caught it and I freak out|0 Thanks I can find it in italian Will add the link Can translate on google|1 Even likely lmao Good god these are the people in charge|1 They closed the whole school district for 26 hours to clean Should have word at 5pm today if closure continues|1 That might not happen if people build immunity to this virus Everyone gets it one time then population at large is immune and protects the vulnerable groups|1 Oh dear I saw that video on twitter It felt like I was looking at the leaked videos of hospitals and morgues from china Sorry to to talk like a doomer but at this point Im beginning to believe thats what the rest of the globe has to look forward to|1 Thats Gods punishment for brexit Brexit from life a total brexit|0 It was IKEAs property and Ill guess that IKEA doesnt even have face masks in their regular inventory so they would have to make up a price for it and a bunch of other stuff Its quicker and easier for a huge international company to just give it away possibly even cheaper for them too since the deal in huge production volumes in their regular business Also not being assholes is a good thing Its probably always going to be most useful for a hospital so it should go there|1 He was working basically non stop for weeks with nobody to replace him and not eatingdrinkingpeeing bc he didnt have enough ppe to replace when he was ready to start working again You arent living in those conditions You have a bed you have food youll be ok|1 With all due respect were talking about a global epidemic and youre telling people not to panic|1 You wouldnt need a crystal ball to predict it Coronaviruses have been breaking out in China for decades now and its only a matter of time before we see them jump the species barrierChina needs to have a serious look at its food hygeine practices and animal rights Hopefully now theyve felt the economic impact they may finally take action|1 Thanks I noticed a shift in the release of information yesterdaytoday that made me a bit suspicious They had been releasing details about each case in a timely fashion here httpsnewsontariocamohltcen but stopped|0 This may well be an accurate description of what they think they are doing but it doesnt explain why they have refused until now to take relatively simple actions that could both delay the spread and reduce casualties Two things spring to mind banning mass gatherings and closing universities I cant fathom why they havent taken the latter step its easy to move teaching online the Easter break is almost upon us and most students are going to vote with their feet anywayThe other thing that this strategy assumes is that it is possible to build a strict separation between the young healthy ones that get infected and build herd immunity and the old and infirm This is just absolutely not the case most of us live in flats or apartments with elderly and sick people around we visit grandparents and people over 60 continue to be an important part of the labour force particularly in education and health Next time you catch the Tube have a look around and see what proportion of people fit the bill of young and healthy how do you have life continue basically as normal and ensure that the elderlyinfirm are somehow isolated from a disease running wildfire throughout the rest of the populationFinally I think its really important to contextualise the government policy in the 10 years of Tory attacks on the health system Thankfully there are a whole lot of voices from the medical community now making this point we have a NHS that is woefully short on beds and equipment probably the worst in Europe overworked and underpaid staff and the creeping presence of private health companies throughout many key areas who Bojo is now apparently going to further reward with a 24 millionday payment for renting hospital beds And I think its really important to remember this is not just a health question zero hour contracts and precarious lowwage work cuts to welfare lack of support for the elderly the homelessness crisis etc etc all of these things will have massive impact on peoples ability to survive the coming monthsThis didnt just happen by accident it was a deliberate set of decisions made by the people now in charge of responding to the crisis Bojos repeated appeal to science is just an attempt to obfuscate the very political nature of what were experiencing today|0 The best line is to not trust any media sources except for governmentsanctioned resources Wasnt there another country that said thatI think it might have started with C Looks like we all need to detox ourselves|1 I made rcoronavirusbros to bring awareness to companies like this Id love if we could bring awareness to the companies doing good|1 Honest question whats the purpose of keeping a full tank of gasWere you around for Sandy hitting NYC There was a period of 23 weeks where gas deliveries were interrupted and you had to use a mobile phone app to figure out which gas stations had fuel That sucked and the lines to get gas suckedThe odds of that happening in this situation remains low but its a lesson that sticks with youTheres some other advantages I think with keeping the gas tank full during winter|1 Recommending UV lights to someone whos never touched them before and has no idea of the safety requirements is a good way to blind people andor give them severe burns UVC lights are incredibly dangerous Dont fuck around with them without doing a lot of research first Also that burningsteak smell Yeah thats you burning Also probably your corneas It doesnt take long to do lasting damage Big Clive has a decent intro on why screwing around with them without knowing what youre doing can be super dangerous httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvCpRMud6EFtE|0 Wish you all the best and a fast recovery No one deserves to be sick but unfortunately right now we have to be extra cautious and look after each other|0 On the same day his government closes the education system for three weeks The fact hes encouraging folks to potentially bring back new cases just as school restarts is reckless and Ill informed|0 Cure cancer with NANOMACHINES|0 Really great contributions here dog Riveting discussion Enjoy the recession|1 Lucky Tom hanks has it then|1 Im surprised he hasnt figured out how to enrich himself from this He made most of his money taking peoples homes during the 2008 housing crisis|0 Thank you for posting this We will be soliciting new mods in the next few hours to resolve this issue We will also be partnering with other geographic subs to ensure better content and coverage We apologize for the lack of content moderation in the past 24 hours|1 Yeah all the Michelin starred restaurants worldclass museums incredible architecture free concerts broadway theaters amazing parks top hospitals and doctors and multiple sports teams sure does suckWhere do you live friend|1 14 day shutdown on a national level would be insane Id love to be alive to see it|1 The best is yet to come|1 Hopefully they dont default in all of them|1 And yet if I read 1000 people sick with this and 1000 people dying in a hospital I would be more scared than if I read 100000 people sick with this and 1000 people dying|0 More people keep getting it hospitals are jusy starting to get overwhelmed until every hospital is completely overwhelmed im pretty sure it will continue to go up|1 I agree with your assessment of DiBlasio Cuomo hasnt been horrible|1 I hope he gets on that as we should be able to call in for this My comment saying they dont do this is from lots of past experience being denied requests for such things Basically until these changes are in place its not really realistic to advise to just call in for a note but I do hope theyre made soon Polis is one of the few politicians I have any trust to take care of this so hopefully soonEdit to clarify FEDERAL leadership Some states are doing great jobs getting it together this past week|1 Im still shocked were only cancelling for one day here in Lynn seems like we should follow suit and do 2 weeks at least Also I dont get the feeling Baker will do thatat least not for another week for the essential personnel thing|0 He should probably not be working with anyone who has cancer with any kind of cold no I would definitely bring this up to someone at the facility|0 Australian F1 GP please Our idiot government is bending over backwards to keep it happening I gave the PM the benefit of the doubt with the initial bushfire response I was wrong This guy is a fucking idiot|0 Why not trust adults to spend the money where its needed2 weeks ago I made 750 Last week I made 500 This week I made 100 Im a photographer no health insurance self employed just coming out of slow season winter is the expected slow season and running out of money There are millions of other freelancers operating in the gig economy A UBI would be extremely helpful right now Not that I would expect it to actually pass Im not in a tax bracket that the senate cares about|1 Daft and cant compare to the Coronavirus symptoms but I always use honey and lemon in hot water for a sore Throat Its soothing and warm |1 My moms flying back in from Germany on Sunday and Im terrified|0 Hey one of my family member is infected But we dont know much since shes in the hospital and were not allowed to visit But I think shes doing okay as of now|0 Modern medical capabilities understanding and logistics are a different league than they were in 1918But the population is now much much larger Logistics also makes it easier for nCoV2019 to spread|1 There is no point in tracking cases as there is no treatment If you are ill stay home If you are not ill then clean hands and social distancingIt is probably not a bad thing if we are angry at the government and go above and beyond what they advise However we are on a path that will last several months so there is a bigger risk of shutting everywhere down now and not being able to restart You could close schools now until the end of the Easter holidays but you would probably have to shut them down again in mayJune|0 Theres no immunity from what i am reading|0 Orange fan sad|0 Youre lucky your employer has even asked for that|1 You are trying to use the one case you experienced to represent the wholeThat kind of attitude is extremely common in China where the government actively and openly keeps tabs on dissidents and act when they feel it necessaryThe person above you said They dont trust their government they have no other choice That is true The Chinese government isnt asking people to stay home and stay under lockdown they give the order if you disobey it means a prison sentenceNow in a situation like this Its one of the few advantages of that kind of totalitarian power They arent doing it for the good of the people but for the economy but either way it still does what needs to be doneAnd by the way people definitely talk about politics in Japan Is it like the US right now where it is a total circus No but politics are still very much on the mind of Japanese Especially right now with the Olympics going on the enormous cost associated with it and Shinzo Abes role in pushing for the Olympics coupled with the fact that it may now be postponedcancelled|1 Theyve been on top of it relative to some other countries India is very interesting too very few cases|1 For pointing out fucking truth 8090 of Pharmaceuticals are made in china Most of our batteries and electronics are made there Most medical equipment from masks to MRI Machines are made in China our biggest rival and most dangerous enemiesYou dont see how that is a threat to national security|0 People love hysteria|1 If youve got evidence that contradicts this Based on the virus genome and properties there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virusRichard Ebright a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers Universityhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworld20200129expertsdebunkfringetheorylinkingchinascoronavirusweaponsresearch Or these guys Milton Leitenberg an expert on chemical weapons at the University of Maryland said he and other analysts around the world had discussed the possibility that weapons development at the Wuhan lab could have led to the coronavirus outbreak in a private email chain but that no one had found convincing evidence to support the theoryhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworld20200129expertsdebunkfringetheorylinkingchinascoronavirusweaponsresearch Then you might be serious I doubt it though|0 I informally spoke to an MD about that once He seemed to think it was more likely intended to encourage a degree of adjunct therapy with opiates and not because the DEA hated people on the liver transplant waiting list|0 It flattens the curve Anything that keeps hospitals from being overwhelmed is a good thing|1 Put them in a teapot wait 77 hours and pour on cold water Pour out this concentrate into a container and dilute with one drop per 50 gallons of distilled water Sell distilled water as homeopathic Forsythiae Bush useful for anything snake oil is useful for|1 I heard that testing in WA is a lot easier now you might want to get checked if anyone in your family is still showing even slight symptoms Im not a doctor by any means but I saw some research that was coming out of Japan that was showing people testing positive even 20 days after their symptoms stopped apparently they wont let you leave the hospital in Japan until you get 2 negative test results in a row|0 There is one benefit of regulations going to the wayside when a crisis presents itself|0 It It was a joke Because British countries dont use the word fall|1 You might want to read that again I read the article and it says exactly as the guy below says Maybe they edited the article or something|1 Why else would their factories be burning electricity without producing anything or having workers there Obviously its better and it wasnt even a big deal to begin withS|1 I have friends that work for VinPearl and they have all been sent home Even businesses in Vietnam are handling this different than the USA Here we have relatively no testing going on and a president telling us to just go to work sick no big deal This is going to get very ugly in the USA|0 My Aunt is in Mexico I sure hope she gets home ok|1 Its like when the head cdc officer catches the virus he is trying to contain|1 What if once you say sth then the psychopath start spitting at you I would want to stay away from those people|1 Chris martenson was bringing up peer reviewed research papers on this topic if this is the case the virus is going to screw the world over horribly and not just old people but younger ones too|0 I always wondered why we dont set a limited lifespan on corporations when they are formed If they get the same rights as us maybe they should share a similar limitation too|1 I remember when the Anthrax Attacks in 2002 was scaring the country and that was way less cases then this|0 This just made my morning thank you It was in my mind the moment I scrolled the photo and became audio visual in realtime with a click yessssss|1 What he is saying is that theyll die anyway in the course of the year Hes talking about the multi morbid like my grandmother who at 82 has chronic leukemia diabetes heart failure and we are counting her weeks and feel blessedShe very likely will die this year or the next Her death with just become part of the statistic she wouldve become part of anyway So do we let the 60yearolds die to save people like her for just another month or maybe sixPS I love my grandma but she is suffering and shes been ready to go for quite a while now|0 Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over In the most effective mitigation strategy examined which leads to a single relatively short epidemic case isolation household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined In addition even if all patients were able to be treated we predict there would still be in the order of 250000 deaths in GB and 1112 million in the US|1 Make sure youre prepping for this if you havent already I live in Omaha and have been stocking up on food and medicines Less trips you have to make out if it starts getting bad|0 Sending love|1 May or may not have some puts going from the last week Might as well try to make something out of a bad situation|0 Thx man i everyday wait for your post tyvm is more clear about the numbers|1 yes it is httpsenwikipediaorgwikiNormaldistributionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiNormaldistribution|1 Weibo says it takes 3 hours to complete processing a body Unfortunately theres no way to tell how many body the three crematoriums can process in parallelAlthough if I were to guess If they run 4 hours normally a day and process 200 bodies that means 1 batch in parallel in a day processes 200 bodies plus 1 hour of other activitiesSo instead they run 247 and run it as quickly as possible that nets 8 fold increase so 1600 bodies a dayWord on the street is that so far more than 10000 have dies from nCoV I should stress that this number is entirely baseless and could very well be out of someones ass Although at 16000 per day thats 6 days|0 Oh like a universal income temporary viruspreventative bonuses to that Yeah that would solve everythingthats why well never do it here|1 Im saying Rouhani is the better actor both are the same islamic lapdogs|1 Its possible the comment above yours was related to case count not death countthe poster called out the 14 days as the incubation period not as incubation plus spiral down to needing ICU|1 Imagine overreacting to this extent lol|1 I think a lot of deaths and serious cases are not getting tested either The amount of testing in the US is ridiculous|0 From what Ive seen no as long as no huge health problems and your not over 50I feel like that is the problem in some of these scenarios where the hospitals get flooded People who dont need to be there go there and take up space because they heard the coronavirus is deadly and scaryI could be wrong And then feel free to correct me but from what Ive seen 1 we shouldnt be treating it like oh its the flu cause it spreads so fast BUT 2 we shouldnt be treating it like its a death sentence and apocalypse scenario|0 Yeah nobody knows how itll roll out I think people dont realize how big of a story it is becoming Itll be a dominant news story for years Knowing the specifics of it are years out Right now were in the fog of war and that makes it more dangerous and scary|0 But what is the alternative Leave them there to infect the local Japanese people Doesnt citizens have responsibilities to each other Maybe people should band together and move seat assignment around so the sick people are all sitting together at the front and away from people Maybe they get their own bathrooms and lots of masks and hand sanitizer I just dont think abandoning ill people is the solution|1 Wrong question China will probably offer help Lets see if he refuses|0 I dont like the corvid19 name prefer WARS It stands for Wuhan Acute Respiratory Syndrome But China wouldnt like that name so the WHO rejected it|0 I mean we left them today and we arent physically connected to them That would be like counting Canada and South America with the US|1 Maybe antivaxxers will shut their stupid shit after this is finally over|0 This is happening in other places in Italy as well like Foggia I live there and I keep hearing ambulances police cars and helicopter sounds in the distance Not gonna lie Im kinda scared|1 Sounds very wise to selfisolate when the neighbours do nothing|1 You really think this dude cares about hypocrisy Wowwwwwww|1 Given the track record of the Chinese government I wouldnt say theyd steal a virus to develop a vaccine|1 Hey its all OK ITs jUSt ThE fLu|1 Thats exactly what Messonier said her telebriefing today Anytime someone asked what they should do for certain scenarios she basically just said use your best judgement and stay informed|1 Easy to say when youre not the business owner|1 It could make social security solvent again|1 New Orleans was different from this The mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana were trying to do the right thing The only people that think Trump has been working hard to do the right thing are his faithful|1 according to the chinese figures the pandemic has already reached its peak at Wuhan in the middle of feburary therefore the mortality rate presented in the figures is expected to rise because there are less new cases and it takes more time to die than to be a confirmed casebut the real mortality rate is expected to be lower because there are a lot of people who are asymptomatic|0 I thought it was more elderly like 70|1 Whats with all the downvotes lol|1 In terms of preparation we in the west need a perception change when it comes to wearing masks Masks shouldnt just about protecting me but also about me protecting you It helps me from touching my face or nose but also stops my cough or sneeze onto someone else Its therefore a sign that I care We dont need to go out and start buying N95 masks it seems that we should leave this for the healthcare professionals but consider wearing something in public places|1 Oh well Time to leave then |1 You really think if hundreds of thousands of people run out of water your little stores are going to last long Just pure delusionmy dudeNo one is going to poison a river with mercury Holy shit Talking to people like you is exhausting and pointless|0 Not saying its for everybody but we have had Chinese food take out twice since all this has started The second time we had some nervous giggles but damn its a tough call guess we will find out in 3 weeks But doubt we have it again anytime soon we have no cases in our region much less our state or county If the US is sitting on cases and fudging numbers we are likely screwed anyway|0 Speaking from a review point of view if you were forced to have an error a false positive is ALWAYS more preferential to a false negative False negative gets looked over false positive gets tested again|0 The EXACT same thing People spreading germs being charged with manslaughter LMK BUD dont worry Ill keep tagging you in the hundreds of articles that prove you are an idiotGod Bless|1 At first glance I read armed public rebellion |0 The babies are immune If the Walking Dead wont do it real life will|0 Yes|1 Stupid stunts like this make all HKers look bad Talk about false flags|0 Arrogance Stupidity Denial|0 Weve already closed the borders to certain air travel from ChinaAs have several other countries including Russia Israel and Taiwan None of those countries have RepublicansYour political ideology seems to be interfering with your ability to recognize that governments have defined boundaries from which they operate and have an obligation to mitigate the flow of public health threats into those defined boundaries|1 Yeah Ive been monitoring it on the Johns Hopkins site it lets you see how many cases are in each country and how many people in each country have died recovered and still have it For the last few days the actual number of people who have the virus has stayed pretty stable at around 40000 Its helped me not freak out|1 Would you like some ice cubes to go in your KoolAid|1 Do postal services take resposibility for samples getting lost Are they fast and reliable enough for urgent and essential testing|0 My wedding is April 25th as well We are in Maryland Not a clue what we are supposed to do or going to do Good luck to you|1 Without the rest of the world China is nothing There is a reason they are pumping their stock market and offering cuts on their tariffs They know theyre in a bad place right now No way will they be taking over the US Everyone has a dependence on China but China is also dependent of everyone else|0 just the accuracy of the testing statistics People dont know if it is 1 or 10 hospitalization or death rate due to testing only going to the obviously sick but also a few stories of faulse pos and neg|0 I was worried about the same thing and my work released a memo about giving anyone with corona virus 15 days of paid sick leave on top of our 5 we get every year I just gotta say that I really appreciate working at a place that is interested in all of us not being absolutely financially wrecked by something like that|1 Healthcare in SingaporeHealthcare in Singapore is supervised by the Ministry of Health of the Singapore Government It largely consists of a governmentrun universal healthcare system with a significant private healthcare sector In addition financing of healthcare costs is done through a mixture of direct government subsidies compulsory savings national healthcare insurance and cost sharingSingapore generally has an efficient and widespread system of healthcare PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Mods in chinaflu be like|1 42 with several of my own good times good times|1 Thanks for the info Do you know if CDI remains closed|1 Canada is barely testing anyone compared to other countries and governments local and federal need criticizing Our family doctors here in Alberta have just told us they have been issued with no plan at all I have family in the UK who are disappointed in the government there and frankly Im jealous I dont live there I cant even imagine that scenario happening in the UK right now Ideally criticism will ripple out fast enough to create pressure and yield a more proactive approach This doesnt need to be about party politics but this situation is inherently political|0 and yet they still do not close the schools they do not slow down the economy to prepare Actually every school with potential cases and positive cases is getting closed Still not proactive but better than nothingUniversities are on hold until midAprilEvents with 1000 people are cancled almost everywhere|0 Because they dumped 1 trillion into itwatch it tank in a few days|0 This virus have mostly killed people with reduced immunity due to pre existing conditions Do you know where those people are In hospitalIsolation is not as easy as it sounds Where do you keep all potential candidates Do they need to be in isolation too What if they werent infected before but they get infected in the hospitalStop overreacting Its a flu you will be all right Dont develop hypertension due to this lol|1 Ive heard about two different strains behaving kind of differently But no news in the last few days Was that just a mistake Seems to be your field|0 Fantastic Good on them|1 No they didnt know any you cant expect the whole world to spend as much time as a lot of ha did researching thisIm glad my wife and I got the things we wanted when we did I take no please in seeing those who didnt|1 Ok so what do those two terms actually mean in the context of that field In wildfire country containment is stopping the spread of the fire In epidemiology same deal Mitigation is what Is that just treating the sick and dying How does one mitigate an epidemic|0 Its not cold hearted to think Human emotion and reason will always occupy separate domains though they arent mutually exclusive in the slightest I dont blame you in the slightest nor do I judge you I can relate And perhaps you raise a good point Perhaps we have been broken the can do spirit of mankind defeated and tailtucked in the face of something seemingly beyond reproachIts a sad but disturbingly real thing to consider Maybe it is out of our control and it all comes down to the human perception of control Fun to remember that the question of free will is still an open one We know a lot but of ourselves we know so very little So many question we cant answer Maybe it comes down to that eh I cant but feel a wave of compassion for my fellow man because I see how clueless we all really are together And thats what we really got one another Just wish wed do something about our world and not just when our own skins are on the line|1 Learn what plants are edible Go and collect them It might Not be much but better than nothing In ww2 they planted potatoes in the parks because|1 well shit i better get the last of that italian pasta then Not that i need it as i stocked up on that early february but i really dont want the shit brand pasta to be the only choice afterwards|0 I dont know about much lower since contact tracing in South Korea should pick up mildasymptomatic cases Then again they still have a fair number of cases of unknown originAnother complicating factor with Korea is their medical system was never overwhelmed Their hospital bed capacity is absurdly high|1 I dont give a shit about a few angry people if its actually averted a pandemicIts definitely a winlose situation|1 Its way too early and testing has been way too spotty everywhere to get an accurate death rate The biggest issue with this outbreak is what happens if you cant flatten the curve thats when youll see scary death rates|0 I am wondering whats up with patient zero in Coloradothe 30 something ski touristlike is he recovering Did he need to be hospitalizeddid his friends ultimately test positive|1 Ive watched some head of psychology person having an interview on the news the other day talking about peoples reaction in the country and across the worldTalked about fear and panic and how to calm down and think rationally and suchShe just talked about the most generic stuff anyone that ISNT a psychologist would tell youI actually laughed when she said that you should watch only credible news sources cause all those my brother has a friend who has a uncle said is bad and half of them are just wrongyeahwhat about the other halfDont get me wrong i do watch official news many of them come form actual experts doctors scientists and researchers But doing some background and fact checking on a platform such as this one gives you so much more insight in the situation that goes on across the entire worldx200BIf you truly dont want to panic get educated and get prepared Being constantly afraid of the unknown rumors and pop up surprises that are happening across the world without anyone telling you about them till its too late is a very stressful way to liveBeing suddenly surprised by panic buying or getting your self in a situation where you dont have much food and supplies when your goverment announces the country goes into lockdown and stops regular business to work exposes you to higher risk of infection if you storm the shops with hundreads of others at the same time|0 Tories gonna Tory just gave me the only laugh Ive had so far today thank you|1 It could mutate but equally its not that helpful to speculate on the coulds in the context of this outbreak It can contribute to panic which is something that public health officials are actively trying to avoid and the information we have does not immediately suggest that the evolution of more virulence will be a problem We know that so far the fatality seems far less than SARS 2 vs 10 despite the higher spread and that the mutation rate appears to be lower than something like flu Both are good signs for the probability of emergence of more virulent strains Global contingency is already focusing on the idea that the virus may not be containedhttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1221434570714669056html although thankfully it doesnt seem like asymptomatic carriage is an issue as initially thought Disease models will look at the worst case in terms of how changing R0 potential personperson contact etc might influence spread and mortality and public health policy will be adjusted accordingly However it seems unhelpful to speculate on some potential deadly mutation that doesnt have a great amount of evidence supporting its development right now The very same thing happens with flu which has a higher mutation rate but people dont seem nearly as concerned even though vaxx coverage is incomplete|0 Am a Hong Kong person and heres my explanation on why we buy masksWhile we dont know the diameter of COVID19 virus in general virus particles are roughly 01 m 100 nm in diameter and the diameter of SARS is 008 m to 014 m so 01 m is a critical measurementAlso in general the virus is usually spread in droplets and not aerosol so we can assume the respiratory droplet size is 05 m according to the NIH httpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK143281httpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK143281ASTM F2100 masks surgical masks have been tested to have at least a PFE of 95 particle filtration efficiency tested with 01 m particles and thats why Hong Kong people are wearing masksx200BAlso the population density is extremely high in HK you cant walk down a supermarket isle without brushing against someone else so having a mask gives you some protection in addition to preventing your contaminated fingers from touching your face That is definitely not the case in North America maybe the NYC subway during rush hour is just as packedx200BOn the other hand a doctor in HK his name is VCC Cheng actually did an air sampling measurement of the 1st patient who had a viral load of 106 copies mL moderate to high and the air that he breathed out are not contaminated with virus not detectable And it will be published in the Infection Control Hospital Epidemiologylink Escalating infection control response to the rapidly evolving epidemiology of the Coronavirus disease 2019 COVID19 due to SARSCoV2 in Hong Konghttpswwwcambridgeorgcorejournalsinfectioncontrolandhospitalepidemiologyarticleescalatinginfectioncontrolresponsetotherapidlyevolvingepidemiologyofthecoronavirusdisease2019covid19duetosarscov2inhongkong52513ACC56587859F9C601DC747EB6ECthe video httpsyoutubeL2IuK4F2gx4t455httpsyoutubeL2IuK4F2gx4t455but notice the entire room is wearing a mask because they are in a hospital and in HKx200Bedit added measurement symbol NIH reference link fixed typo|1 Who approved this lol|1 I am pretty sure that any layoffs of 50 or more in the US are a matter of public recordEdit that may only apply if it is due to global trade|1 The question around masks is a very good one The main thing to understand is that there are 2 main kinds of masks that people are referring to the rectangular surgical masks and the N95 respirator masks the kind that healthcare workers get fit tested forThey are not recommended for the general public because surgical masks dont offer great protection people often get a false sense of security when wearing them and they may not do the things that will actually protect them most like handwashing not touching your face eyes nose Also wearing one throughout the day just means you are carrying around germs that you have picked up during the day People also contaminate themselves when they remove the masksThe N95 masks are best left for healthcare providers who come into contact with highrisk respiratory infections at work have been properly fit for these masks and can dispose of them properly Its also important to know that these masks can be very uncomfortable to wear when you are wearing them properly If healthcare workers do not have access to these masks on the frontlines then they are at much higher risk than people in the general populationIf you are sick with a respiratory infection or caring for someone that is sick the masks can prevent droplets and splash that can less contamination of surfaces and exposure to others but these are very specific situationsNeha Pathak MD|1 Theyre sending like 20 emergency alerts every day Today I woke up with 16 missed alerts already|0 So many college classmates were talking this morning Who cares if I get sick ill be fine these flights are cheap and Im leaving for spring break If I die I die|0 I swear this virus changes people into wanting to infect others Seriously It is like that parasite that makes people take more risks|0 Yeah transmission is the biggest issue Also on a much sadder note my grandpa has stage 4 bone cancer and my family is scared to visit him because of this virus like turning his remaining three months into two weeks|0 Those 40 million people have a higher likelihood of dying on the existing flu virus|0 IndeedThis also provides time for our scientists to understand the disease better developing treatments like using malaria drugs or 3d printing ventilator parts etc vaccines and antivirals|1 People class anything that is contrary to the information the governments are sending out as conspiracy theories these days My points are all facts and can be looked up but contrary and so treated as conspiracy and not talked about|0 No Im saying I was in Yenikapi yesterday and walked past at least 30 refugees just hanging around the station There were a few on the sea bus from Bursa who were stopped by police once in Istanbul and a few more on the metro going to the main bus station Thats what Im saying|0 Source please|1 Santa Clara County just announced their own phantom patient Now Im worried|0 Yeah Another thing you are left to work out for yourself is that in the 1549 age group 12 became severe and from other studies we can assume a good chunk of those are age 40 while the oldest age group had about a third of cases become severeSo yes the disease hits everyone but severity is still strongly tied to age|1 Im residing in the Gumi too Staying home for 3 weeks doing almost nothing and waiting for this disaster to end is pretty tiring and depressing experience|0 Someone who purposefully tries to infect other people with diseases is committing a heinous offense that ought to be a crime This does not mean I support genocide Youre being an idiot|0 Thanks found it Heres the top fiveThe most potent one is Bortezomib an anticancer medication which is known as proteasome inhibitor and can be used to treat multiple myeloma and mantle cell lymphoma The second drug is Flurazepam which is a benzodiazepine derivative that possesses anxiolytic anticonvulsant hypnotic sedative and skeletal muscle relaxant properties The third one Ponatinib an oral drug for the treatment of chronic myeloid leukemia and Philadelphia chromosomepositive acute lymphoblastic leukemia which is a multitargeted tyrosine kinase inhibitor It is important to notice that this drug has the risk of lifethreatening blood clots and severe narrowing of blood vessels The next one is Sorafenib a kinase inhibitor for the treatment of primary kidney cancer and liver cancer The fifth drug Dasatinib is a therapy for treating certain cases of chronic myelogenous leukemia and acute lymphoblastic leukemia Seems kind of random|0 Is it ironic my statistics professor is being ignorant about the virus and encourages us to come to class even though we have switched to online suggested courses moving forward after spring break|1 Listen to what hes saying you idiot|0 No he did not you have terrible listening comprehension if you think soHe said that how the opposition is politicizing it and downplaying his efforts while the media writes fake news hit pieces on it That is the hoaxNot the virus itself obviously But dont let me bring logic into your circlejerk|0 Two things 1 After two months many trust WHO as much as china so WHO testifying for china means little for who has followed the developments since the start 2 You make it sound as if people could shit out tests and process them as nothing as if the structures the labs the staff needed could all appear out of thin air If a nation isnt organized to deal with a sudden fast spreading epidemic it takes time to organize the structures staff and supplies to do mass testing South Korea Taiwan HK Singapore all had experience with previous epidemics in recent time Italy didnt With this i mean you are being unreasonable in expecting something 95 of the nations worldwide are still not ready to put into practice These are the tests done by nationhttpsiimgurcom4tgiQJzpng and their rate per capitahttpsiimgurcomFFqk19Qpng This is a graph of the testinghttpsiimgurcom46srFmipng done in italy in the last 3 weeks Grey is the tests done pink is the infected found Im not going to argue further just pointing out many are fast to make up their own opinion but they often miss the context of each nation or the overall picture|0 Plenty of people under 60 are dying from this virus And many more on top of that including healthy young people require hospitalization to recover And if we overwhelm the hospital system then people will be dying from other things that normally dont kill you because hospitals can treat it Think broken bones and head injuries illnesses etc|1 There is plenty of other work Im sure they have to do that can be done during the time off|1 Not every job can wfhAnd not every buesness can just shut down when we need to PAY RENT|0 I hope so My wife freaking about me being on Reddit constantly But Reddit consistently has the latest headlines Or rather the latest news when there are 0 headlines Masks already gone in my area I mean shelves cleaned Guy at home Depot said when they come in this guy came in and bought 48 masks Not saying he is a selfish ahole maybe he is buying for nurses or a large family group I am just saying ITS NUTS Stay safe man and fuck em if they treat you like you Are crazy|0 The china is reporting confirm and suspected based on test and observation They are not report ing some number some dude estimated 5000 miles away|0 Wuhan of the Seas is a great name for the next cruise ship|1 What inactionTheyve banned travel from China and have made offers to assist Short of violating Chinas sovereignty and parachuting in a squad of CDC docs what else could be expected to be done|0 Holy crap Being a bus driver isnt the same as the close family contact people were saying was necessary to get it|0 Im not so sure Around half of the dutch patients in ICU are under 40 Not exactly old|0 May 4 2013 The National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg receives a sample of the coronavirus from the Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam the NetherlandsEDIT httpswwwctvnewscahealthhealthheadlinescanadasnationallabhassampleofnewcoronavirus11281929httpswwwctvnewscahealthhealthheadlinescanadasnationallabhassampleofnewcoronavirus11281929 httpswwwtheglobeandmailcomlifehealthandfitnesshealthcanadasnationallabhassampleofnewsarslikevirusplanningstudiesarticle11960170httpswwwtheglobeandmailcomlifehealthandfitnesshealthcanadasnationallabhassampleofnewsarslikevirusplanningstudiesarticle11960170 httpsglobalnewscanews562593canadasnationallabhasnewsampleofcoronavirusplanningstudieshttpsglobalnewscanews562593canadasnationallabhasnewsampleofcoronavirusplanningstudiesActing director was Dr Frank Plummer a specialist in infectious diseases who reportedly worked on HIV research directing a project in kenya Began drinking heavily while dealing with the disease in kenya in the 1980s Diagnosed with cirrhosis in 2012 Received transplant in 2014 Continued drinking Transplant began to fail Opted to be the first patient to receive experimental brain surgery to treat the alcoholism Electrode brain implant Continued to drinkhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv6TBxFGBCEYghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv6TBxFGBCEYgReports indicate that Dr Plummer was director at the NML for 7 years including 2013 when the lab received the coronavirus from the NetherlandsDr Frank Plummer discovered dead in Kenya Feb 4 2020 weeks after the outbreakThe National Microbiology Lab is a level 4 virology laboratory that houses some of the worlds deadliest pathogens including the ebola virus The lab is affiliated with the University of ManitobaUkraine International Airlines Flight 752 was shot down by Iran after departing Tehran 63 Canadians were aboard the flight Many were students and professors from the University of Manitoba PhDs in microbiologyOne of the victims was immunologist Dr Forough Khadem a PhD graduate from the University of Manitobahttpswinnipegcitynewsca20200108winnipeggersamongvictimsintehranplanecrashhttpswinnipegcitynewsca20200108winnipeggersamongvictimsintehranplanecrash httpswwwresearchgatenetprofileForoughKhademhttpswwwresearchgatenetprofileForoughKhademForough Khadem 36 discovered treatment for the parasitic disease leishmaniasis which kills between 26000 and 65000 people every yearhttpswwwstandardcouknewsworldiranplanecrashtehranforoughkhadema4330426htmlhttpswwwstandardcouknewsworldiranplanecrashtehranforoughkhadema4330426htmlJuly 2019 a group of Chinese virologists were removed from the lab and the University of Manitoba including Dr Xiangguo Qiu her husband Dr Keding Cheng and students they brought from china with connections to labs in WuhanThe couple is under investigation in relation to an improper package that reportedly prompted a security breachWhen the shipment from Canada was uncovered security access was revoked for Qiu her husband and the Chinese students IT specialists entered Qius office after hours to gain access to her computer and her regular trips to China were haltedhttpsbesacenterorgperspectivespaperschinabiologicalwarfarehttpsbesacenterorgperspectivespaperschinabiologicalwarfareQiu reportedly made at least five trips over the academic year 201718 alone to the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory of the Chinese Academy of SciencesChinese students from a notable range of Chinese scientific facilities have joined Qiu at the NML over the past decadeOf those facilities four are believed to be involved in Chinese biological weapons development They are Institute of Military Veterinary Academy of Military Medical Sciences Changchun Center for Disease Control and Prevention Chengdu Military Region Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Hubei Institute of Microbiology Chinese Academy of Sciences BeijingThe Wuhan National Biosaftey Laboratory reportedly houses the Chinese Militarys Virology department and presumably the governments bioweapons programLt Col res Dr Dany Shoham published a paper on the incidenthttpsbesacenterorgwpcontentuploads2020011429ChinaandVirusesTheCaseofXiangguoQiuShohamfinalpdfhttpsbesacenterorgwpcontentuploads2020011429ChinaandVirusesTheCaseofXiangguoQiuShohamfinalpdf|0 I came back and Ive been stuck in my special room alone for 3 days nowChrist o mighty America is a bit behind the curb Im so sorry OP|0 I understand that but so far the CDC is advising people with symptoms to stay home not to go to the hospital I wonder if the reason theyre holding up the testing is because they know more people have it than they think and they dont want a massive invasion at all hospitals that would harm the people truly at risk|0 Unrelated to the topic at hand Im just curious Is there any data correlating an individual patients incubation time with the severity of the disease they experience|1 No problem In that case may I make a few more suggestions Infections Distribution should be Infection Distribution Search 163 Affected Regions has a space before the ellipsis which is kind of weird Id probably omit the ellipsis entirely Share with your friends family or fellows should probably use the word coworkers instead of fellows Fellows isnt often used in that way although the usage is technically correct Also Id add an oxford comma to make it friends family or coworkers The text Keep them upto date with coronavirus outbreak should actually read Keep them up to date with the coronavirus outbreak I missed the missing the in my first look Today Stats should be Todays Stats|0 Were in the same boat My mom has been sick since Friday and sounds breathless on the phone but her PCP cant test and neither can the local health department Were in KY|0 I work in CA in a tourist area The number of Asian tourist trying to escape the virus is insane LA is sure to get a massive amount of cases shortly|1 Proof data caps are bullshit|0 Yeah this is just going to become more commonplace with part shortages due to manufacturing and shipping backlogs Could end up kick starting the 3d printing revolution|1 Thank you Ive been getting really worked up and your comments made me smile Im so glad I came to Reddit when I did|1 Why is what unimaginable That you can train someone to be a doctor in 10 daysSpoiler you cantI appreciate that China is sending doctors and nurses from other cities I dont know what your point is to be blunt|1 I asked the hospital staff if they have the ability to test anyone for the coronavirus and thf answer is a flat no They would have to send a sample to the CDC for testing As a result no one is being tested and the staff seems to be somewhat unaware and under prepared|0 The reason this doesnt make sense to me is that the top 2 traditional chinese medicine remedies that were being promoted as effective and were massproduced and massdistributed to treat 8590 of chinese patients have featured antivirals that are demonstrated ACE receptorsThe Chinese have been all over this ACE2 receptor thing since months before the highlyvaunted paper that came out in March that everyone has been paying attention to They have been purposely incorporating their ACE2 theories in research of their traditional chinese medicine remedies This was published at the end of Januaryhttpsscholargooglecomscholarhlenassdt021cluster14728506314804149279The way the medical community is responding to this thing is starting to look really racist and imperialist How are people ignoring the Chinese advances and work and then appropriating it as discoveries while continuing to condescend to the Chinese work as scientifically inferiorI feel a lack of trust in how this is all being handled by our Western authorities and medical community so far and Ive set about acquiring ingredients for the TCM remedies IDK if our doctors and researchers even have a clue and are just ideastealing from the Chinese while publicationcarrying each other So I have more trust in the Chinese work right nowI have all the ingredients listed in the above paper I linked and Im sure has hell taking them if I get sick And if some doctor doesnt let me eat black licorice while Im in the hospital for COVID19 and Im not on a respirator Ill leave My trust in Western public health is very low right now Their high death rates and inability to deal with even testing and tracking is really discouraging|0 Im very surprised a school would allow travel like that right now|1 Cant get infected if no one is alive taps temple|1 Real question Wouldnt that infringe on our civil liberties as Americans I understand that China could swiftly enact such a policy with their onepart state but our country was established on freedoms and wouldnt this set a precedent on what liberties can be abolished in a time of crisis My fear is there might be times of crisis that may be taken advantage of in the future Although I do believe that the best way to mitigate this virus is reduce the amount of people are exposed to each other Truly historic times|1 They dont want to report widespread numbers because itll tank the stocks even further|0 I dont get why people are saying this because it hasnt infected millions due to people that have it are in quarantine where they cant spread it Over 6 million people got the flu and only 16000 died and the corona virus literally has infected 92000 people and killed 3000 which is a 6 death rate Please anyone let me know if Im missing out on something|0 Our ICUs operate at 7090 capacity at all times sooo yeah it wont take much to overwhelm then Even 05 of the US population infected would push them past capacity|0 Some people will adamantly only live in the here and now They cant extrapolate an emerging threat with some future course of events where that threat is going to harm them In fact theyll actively try and jeopardize any attempts by others who are trying to prepare These people have shown themselves all over reddit of late A quarantine in Italy Yeah but Im not under a quarantine so youre an idiotI had this debate that went along those lines today His argument hinged on Chinas numbers of new cases reducing so everythings gonna be ok and were all overeacting by expecting quarantinesExcept everywhere else has increasing numbers increasing quarantines and China is the prime example that only quarantined work so the rest of us ought to expect them and be readyBut no somehow in his eyes Im the idiotWhat a muppet|0 Lol jist watched it yesterday My husbands take away from it Dont cheat on your husband or itll cause a pandemic |1 Interesting When I use a mask I usually always end up with some condensation on my face in the area the mask covers At 15C wouldnt be long for that to freeze If it works for you keep it up That said I would invest in some ski goggles and a winter face cover|1 It may be their only income after they lose their normal jobIm not saying its a bad idea I just think its going to be extremely difficult to implement|0 That remains to be seenBut Wuhan is for sure what they call SHTF|1 Im going to drop some bombs tomorrow So the downplaying can go fuck itself|0 Idk couple of pretty panicky every man for themselves people round here|1 i love it|1 The US and other western countries are so unhealthy most people are held together with a cocktail of drugs and have all kinds of problems they just have the money and access to stay alive The developing world has its own set of issues but might be better off in regards to risk factors and an infectious disease that seems to be worse for people with a lot of risk factors|0 Three positive in Ohio and now were up to a whopping 19 tested |1 If you lose your job due to a pandemic you CAN file a lawsuit Keep your calm When your place of work reopens request a polite meeting with the manager Be sure a witness is present Let your words be something similar to these You need workers Its going to cost you more time and money to train a new employee than it would to keep me on staff When you closed the doors I did not quit You closed down My absence does not affect your profits when there are no customers|0 Are you a doctor Cause it doesnt sound like it|0 And the cases are very very very unlikely to be true reinfection The doctors have said its far more likely that the infection never cleared|1 How about order your shit online and stay home Thats what I did|0 The whole Amazon tracking our boogers theory happened back when the study first started last winter I think after Id asked the gal running the swab station who was funding it and she told me it was an anonymous benefactor At the time we did Google around pretty hard and couldnt find any info so we came up with a fun conspiracy None of us were particularly concerned about it Of course you give consent when you fill out the paperwork As for Amazon tracking me lol My uncle leads one of their biggest global divisions so its already a given Amazon knows everything about me and my entire family Its chill|1 It is absolutely necessary If your mum is at an age that has a higher risk and you are of good health you could offer to walk the dog for her if it worries you so much|0 Wow its like the Chinese government or something|1 i always thought reddit is banned in China|0 If youre knowledgeable in the subject matter it becomes much easier|1 Yeah they first stated it was one of the aims of their plan though So they have both stated it is the plan and have then retracted and said its not the planHence why people think their communications strategy is absolute dogshit|1 Well its certainly not the second one|1 What are they even trying to say Masks suck They are useless Oh and doctors need masks They prevent infection So leave the masks for the doctors What kind of fucked up mixed messaging And Im sorry If the doctors are going to be maskless because I bought a 20pack at CVS then theres bigger fish to fry|0 The reddit autists knew better than the UK top scientists Who knew|1 Understood I agree with your thought process|1 35000 is life changing for most people especially the billions in poverty and extreme poverty Where I come from 35000 is enough to buy a house and somewhat retire on|0 Im so sorry for you guys It doesnt make any sense to leave everyone out on their own If the government just paid everyone to stay at home for a month it would get rid of this thing and be much cheaper than the inevitable economic collapse thats coming if it drags out|0 from groceries to tires everything runs on Just in Time supply method and its the most frightening thing in the world once you look up and realize it|0 I would like to know this too I am certain it was more than the official numbers if supposedly most people present with minor symptoms|1 Better to have civil liberties than to have a police state imo|1 Its sad that vulnerable populations will suffer the consequences of the stupidity if others|0 Thats an easy lawsuit if their staff survive|1 Good point I forgot about that Used to having my own chickens|1 I agree I mean havent you seen contagion the instant prepping was mentioned shiz hit the fan|1 I am very worried about this I work three part time jobs and cannot afford to not work Add to that i have immune problems that make me more susceptible to getting sick and my husband is considered essential personnel and will have to work no matter what Its extremely concerning right now|0 Yeah in my experience the older folks around me like 65 are the ones concerned because they know it can mess them up middle age folks dont care or worse think its a conspiracy unless they have an obvious condition that can make it worse and people under 40 can go either way some are going crazy hoarding TP some are calling it a fraud and some being reasonable about it Pretty much everyone under 35 regardless of how serious they take it are sharing memes though which can make it seem like they arent taking it seriously but dark humor is a legit coping method|1 Its Spring Festival season and traditions are homemade food various SF Galas etc But now people have developed new forms of entertainment After the lockdown they gathered via group text to sing national anthem and other songs last night at 2000 It wasstupid but it was also very heartwarming I remember last night at 1950 a man yelled DOES ANYONE WANTS TO SING then everyone ACTUALLY started singing after 10 minutes So stupid but awesomeAnother thing is memes of the CNY and the virus I mentioned in other replies|1 Lol It wud be funny if he gets arrested by a drone coz of his facemask id not working|1 Its the same response Trump had And a lot of other countriesLook at my user name Im not a fan of the Chinese government But there are a lot of countries who cover these things up because they fear the panic they create in telling the truth would be worse than any harm that comes from not tellingI disagree with that approach in nearly every case but I dont think them taking it necessarily makes them villains just very very bad at math|0 Thats unfair The scientists in Trumps pocket did exactly this But there have been real scientists outside of Washington screaming from the rooftops for months They were ignored and ridiculed|0 Maybe people arent acting in panic and miss informed in Spain as most are behaving in this threat complimenting the idiots who ended the stock of masks for professionals of health because they are scared of a 2 death ratio disease Just saying dont get offended Virgin Marys|0 Not everyone who donates are letting everyone else know that they did I think this is a nice effort to encourage everyone to stay home|1 that is every single corporation this kind of behavior is the natural result of unrestrained and mostly unregulated capitalism|1 I bet that the HBO equivalent to the Chernobyl series on this pandemic will be interesting to watch|1 Good luck Truly |1 Can someone translate this or do a TLDR please|1 Fbook frames CoronaNEGATIVE CoronaPOSITIVE CoronaTESTING please use them to keep everyone up to date This is already being used in our area and its picking up quite rapidlyBold colours and central to the profile picture so theyre easy to see|1 Cool Nationalize them|1 Someone tell him that children are also vunerable to this virus a 2 years old and a 13 years old caught the virus in Vietnam from super spreaders 1 woman infected 8 people in Binh Thuan and other infected 13 people in Hanoi Vietnam httpsevnexpressnetnewsnewsfivemorecoronavirusinfectionsconfirmedincentralvietnam4068279html|0 Oh trust me I know my grandmother is now the only direct ascendent I have and shes 79 I am quite worried for her The only reassurance is knowing there are ways to mitigate the risk|1 I think people underestimate the impact of the fluSomething like 50 million cases a year with half a million hospitalizations If quarantining 100 million people in one country could prevent the outbreak of another flulike disease it would be worth it|1 Hello from a less snottier in both senses of the word part of East London I like your point about consumerism I mentioned this to a friend recently Consumerism levels are grotesque IF this situation gets to the worst case scenario and we cant get what we want when we want it it might lead to a change of attitude and help people remember whats important in life Every cloud|1 Big yep|1 From Iran showing same respiratory distress from Iranian video of 60 year old that died in Qom now same respiratory symptoms in Iranian children httpswwwinstagramcompB852MjSHaTxutmsourceigwebcopylink|0 If youre willing to ignore the economic impact of quarantine its always easy to argue more is better|1 Lol catching a falling knife I like that its funny but true Anyways lets say I do buy What should I buy|1 I believe they are aligning this time with the school holidaysAnnounce quarantine before half term so the holiday period soaks the absences|1 Say what you want about humanity but when it matters we pull together If we could always foster this mentality we would solve so many issues|1 No one is trying to prevent anything lol This is 100 enabling the virus to populate major city centersThink about it School Teacher perfect Patient Zero How many teachers have they had contact with in the Teachers Lounge How many kids in total have those Teachers had contact with How many people in total have those kids parents had contact with at workand so on and so onJust some simple My childs teacher had it can lead to an exponential growth in any highly contagious disease|1 Which will happen anyway in January 2021 after our PM with a badhairdo will push a no deal throughAt least we can say the virus is not to be blamed on anyone in particular|1 I would think that the fact that he needed an organ transplant meant that he was either in organ failure or something close to that which would already be considered a comorbidity So it wasnt just the fact that he was on an immunosuppressant but the fact that he already had issues with an organ that contributed to the severity of the illness|0 It makes no sense though Why is everyone covering up cases of infection in what is clearly a global disaster Its nobodys fault Theres no shame in having people infected in your population Whats to gain Surely global cooperation would increase everyones chances|0 That is fucking abysmal Please tell me theyre preparing for this|1 So now people will be sick and gassy At least the face masks will hide the stench|0 According to a China there is no evidence the virus originated there|0 A lot of them will die before becoming homeless because they cant afford treatment and either go to the ER too late or not at all So it wont be too bad s|0 We have plenty of public funding in Europe and still in most countries its a complete muppet show nothing is getting done eg my country is handing out expired FFP1 masks now to hospitals The strengths of the US are its companies The strategy of the CDC to step back was great now you have a bunch of word class labs and universities working on it and then you can roll out the best ones In a country with capable institutions like that centralizing these things is stupid|1 Proper stockpiles isnt profitable therefore its communism Thats what the gop tells me anyway|0 I wish I had the ability to play video games|1 A spread like this could have been prevented if the government acted earlier I hope there will be less casualties and the nurses doctors stay safe|1 You keep asking what everyone was right about It is obvious you havent been on this sub from the start ALL over the place people were strongly suggesting that the US might not even progress past 10 cases Several people I know IRL thought it was crazy talk to even assume places other than China would ever have a threat of the virus We have 6 deaths in the US now and several places Italy Iran South Korea China Japan etc are all dealing with large outbreaks of their own That is what people on this sub were right about|0 Im so glad only the Chinese Communist Party is allowed to own guns to keep us safe|1 theres testing available for everybody you just have to ask and youll be tested beautiful american tests perfect tests like my phone call with ukraine|1 Thats a good point Never thought about it that way|1 Yeah I agree I popped in to check it out normally just skim my feed and 8 of the top 10 hot posts were America centric and many of them were either not about the virus an er wait time app JUST for the USA is in the works apparently or were listing positive cases within the usa Maybe a sticky post would be a better way to list positive cases Tbh in a week or so we probably wont need to list them since it seems to be everywhere at this point|1 Look the problem in America is money mismanagement With what we pay for Veterans Seniors and then for state free insurancewe already pay more per capita for insurance than what they do in Britainx200BThe problem this creates is that we essentially already pay for it I cant afford to be taxed twice to receive once And by cant afford I mean literally couldnt pay my bills x200BWe are so backwards here in what our taxes do x200BAlso our existing healthcare that has plenty of money to support everyone is downright broken for the few people who actually get itx200BOn top of all that We allow our doctors to charge way more than other countries do This tricks the public into believing that much money is actually required to do these things|0 America please give us this|1 If you follow Chinas numbers this is what happened around mid February The numbers started to drop slightly every day Hopefully theyve hit their peak|1 Thanks for posting|1 The severity of the symptoms seem to be dependent on environmental health and medical infrastructure factors In Wuhan China where smoking is prevalent and there is smog etc people were not fairing well In Iran where there appears to be insufficient infrastructure to treat patients people are falling over sick in the street like they were in Wuhan last week Meanwhile in South Korea we have as of yet a relatively low death rate In Italy we had a super spreader and the government took a while and in some sense still is challenged to take a quarantine and shut down seriously with some local governments pressuring a reopening of communities So COVID19 isnt operating in a vacuum every country seems to be having their own unique experience thus far depending on how healthy their environment is how competent their government is and how good their medical infrastructure is and probably other factors along these lines|0 ha|1 Sorry I made a mistake A pack contains 5 masks|0 Besides on stats skills and virgins on kittens Civilian firearms and warm woolen mittens Homicide victims tied up with strings These are a few of my favorite things sing ithttpsyoutubekwN3LJdGyuUt20 reply info to learn more about this bot including fun stats|1 Prediction Not Well|0 R0 isnt a set value It varies|0 He needs federal money to pay off the Dormitory Authority Bonds so leasing the university dorms is a really good first stepNew York state cant issue bonds by the state constitution So they use Authorities There is actual obligation to pay the bonds back but everybody expects the state to back repayment The largest bonding authority is State Dormitory Authority It finances gobs and gobs State pays is back If Cuomo gets the actual dorms leased out the money flows to the Dormitory Authority and the state can actually take a deep breath from its fiscal morass|1 Depends on the level of panic If the panic buying gets to the stage of people begin withdrawing all their money from their bank accounts and from the stock market resulting in cascading financial crashes bankruptcies and layoffs for something that may yes may turn into the equivalent of a seasonal flu bug then Id say panicking now is not a good idea|0 Lake county is the same No meat eggs food nothing What are we all gonna do when our milk expires next week And I dont believe people are getting tested like they should Are people getting better access to testing out there yet|1 Yeah and it seems like SX does whatever the F it wants|1 This part is extremely alarmingThe memo notes that risk of transmission of coronavirus is considered low and crew members from the flight are not required to be quarantined or to stop flying but are advised to selfmonitor for 14 days beginning on the day of the flight and report any symptoms to their local public health professionals should they develop|0 Honestly if they took like 1 of the money they used on killing people in the middle east they could test every sick American|0 Well not testing people is a very effective way to keep number of confirmed cases downI wish this was s|1 Im really starting to think that the Coronavirus has a sense of humor|1 They even refused the WHOs help US citizens should take it upon themselves to seek help from these countriesLots of Japanese social media users are seeking Taiwans digital ministers help|1 This is the only place I have seen that gives figures for critical cases I know it doesnt give the same detail |0 Ive been reading that cytokine storm is a major contributor to complications and severe symptoms I wouldnt want to say youll be fine because I have no idea but the damage from your own immune system may be limited|0 Fuck em prep for yourself and those who depend on you Fuck anyone else Are those options going to save you from infection or financial ruin Didnt think so|0 And the smartest people have been doing this early and often so we dont have to rub elbows with people fistfighting over the last tp|1 Lol as a US sailor on the same base this doesnt surprise me at all XD|1 Really warm winter in Korea as well|1 Thats good got enough going on down here its hard to keep up with whos doing what right now Stay safe|1 I remember all my cousins coming over for a sleepover when my brother got chickenpox I didnt have it so they all slept in my room Next morning I woke up with it and a couple days later they all did as well Some people honestly think the best thing to do is get everyone sick at the same time Its madness|1 Sounds to me like you probably just have a diet that provides you with sufficient vitamin D or you go out in the sun long enough to get vitamin D that wayIf youre as health conscious as you sound probably both|1 I will add that Western nations knew of this whistleblowers warnings what did they do about it|0 Better too late than never|1 You have been fined 50 social credits|1 Pepper spray foggers work wonders for this Or the old mounted trick just have the horses shit all over the street and sidewalk|0 Great question|1 Ive been slowly stocking up for two weeks My husband thinks its unnecessary but theres no harm in being prepared for the worst case scenario Ive purchased things like canned tuna and chicken beef jerky peanut butter canned veggies beans ramen etc They are all things with a long shelf life and will get used one way or the other Id rather be prepared ahead of time than caught off guard|0 As a kid during the Swine Flu epidemic Id always wash my hands right afterwards before mum gave out to me for being rude using the bathroom every mass Two weeks later the sign of peace was suspended|0 Delivery seems to be working just fine Anything to prevent a large gathering of people|1 laughs wheezes|1 I live right down the street from the drive thru testing facility two days ago there were so many cars if it was a disaster movie I would have called it a bit much Yesterday there was a sign that read testing is closed I think they were pretty quickly overwhelmed andor ran out of tests|0 Should be based on current income level With 1K per person being the lowest it goes IMO|0 The rate of infection is accelerating but hopefully its not exponential Hard to tell if they are running into some kind of testing bottleneck or if quarantine efforts are working to slow the spread|1 I agree with this Most big corporations can easily handle the cost Small businesses actually have pretty good reason to be concerned|1 Hes the only guy that goes up to the podium with Trump at every conference that I think we can actually trust He is still gagged by Trump to an extent but he is definitely out for the publics best interest more than that scummy weasel Alex Azar|1 Well those of us that are paying attention have ALREADY stocked up The next wave that is sort of paying attention will have a chance to stock up Believe it or not the way its being handled will probably result in a greater percentage of the population ready that it might otherwise be Besides this could still have months before it blows up in other countries Think about it this was first seen in early December and didnt really make the news or result in severe action by the CCP until the end of January About 67 weeks Another few weeks for the rest of the world to begin to pay attention The supply chain of the world can not supply support EVERYONE going to stock up all at once Be prepared now and in the worst case you can challenge yourself to a no spend March and April and maybe even May |0 There ARE a lot of people too stupid to think for themselves which is why we are in our current political climate and why this subreddit is a hive of misinformation and panic|0 Thats their loss|0 Im in California and went to my citys SaveMart Center for a concert 2days ago and I wore a mask for it I was the only person out of thousands to wear one I noticed people definitely looking at me and I even got one direct comment but it wasnt a negative comment gist is if you feel like you need it then wear it it definitely gets easier to not care what people think after doing it for the first time|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 How much you wanna bet that after extorting their employees into risking their health to keep the stores running they dont pay them their final checks when the company inevitably goes under|0 This is correct Shame youre being downvoted for an accurate statement|0 You would need to test everyone to know the full scale and thats definitely not happening|1 Hell and fire was spawned to be released|0 Ty Im trying to parse the information If youre more familiar w the platform can you walk me through on seeing how I can preform a search for flights from China to Barcelona Or Spain|1 This statement is incorrect SARS was less infective and also did not have asymptomatic transmission However it was more deadly having a case fatality rate of about 96 meaning it killed more people Covid 19 is much more infective and has asymptomatic transmission link to this httpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202002study72000covid19patientsfinds23deathrate this studyhttpsacademicoupcomjtmadvancearticledoi101093jtmtaaa0215735319 estimates Covid 19 R0 at 328 this studyhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3323341 estimates SARS infectivity R0 as 11|0 what about misinformation intended to increase panic those are the types of comments that should be more heavily moderated|0 Really I think Id be very bummed if I died of coronavirus even if I was 100 years old It would rob me of the change to say a proper calm goodbye to my loved ones and probably screw up my burial It would be in a crowded ICU instead of at home surrounded by grandchildren I think its tragic that so many elders are leaving us in such conditions |0 Your lungs also look diseased when you have a chest cold Its called mucus buildup and its annoying but not deadly|0 Good that way they can clean up their mess|1 Where are you my friend Yes many countries and companies are handling this very poorly|1 What about the people who are saying this is the end times and well be extinct within the year Because Ive seen a few people like that|1 At least 1 good thing out of this shitstorm|1 Half is too big of a number Yes 3 of population is a lot|1 A night of nosleep finally yield to maybe half a dozen of recovery testimonies in my country to date 200 recoveries People got tested and recovering at home Some of the affected ones are not willing to have their names on the screenThank you all for sharing your thoughts I think that as long as the anonimacy of the involved people is preserved this stories must be shared Statistics are too cold for people to stay optimistic the world from first hand is always a better guidance|1 Lol those bottles look artisanal af|1 That which can be measured is managedHence we see no interest to measure testing throughput as it continues to expose the glaring debacle that has been our inability to test for the last 30 days This is why the CDC now says oh you have to talk to the states we cant do that anymore Well update confirmed cases but not testing thats on the states|0 Its intellectual laziness But it does take quite a bit of research to prove and show evidence that the media is wrong|1 Yep way too low Now weve decided to tell people only with severe symptoms to test Stay home if youre sick 2 weeks plus This is a way to slow it downEven if you find out you have it there is no cure Stay home and quarantine yourself for 2 weeks Unfortunately Most people wont |0 We also wont know the real death rate because of 5075 of people we KNOW are infected are asymptomatic then the real death rate is lower than we think|0 Tons of ICs and PCBs populated and not come from China as well as finished hardware a TON of networking hardware This is gonna such for pretty much any tech company if this lasts much longer|1 Fuck bezos Jeff|0 I get the sense they are scrambling Ill actually prefer if we have some cases rather than zero because we know there have been cases in Ontario since yesterday If its no cases then I dont think I can trust these daily updates anymore|0 They say the expression was changed to be primarily in different cell types we found that ACE2 gene is expressed in specific cell types related to smoking history and location In bronchial epithelium ACE2 is actively expressed in goblet cells of current smokers and club cells of nonsmokers In alveoli ACE2 is actively expressed in remodelled AT2 cells of former smokersI couldnt say what effect I would expect that to have on susceptibility but if correct it shows smoking is affecting ACE2 expression in some way|1 Its slowly easing schools are still closed but people have started returning to work even in Wuhan|1 Hopefully this ends up like Heath Ledger being announced as the new Joker where everyone is initially apalled but then somehow it actually ends up being the best choice ever|1 lmao|1 I wonder if the disease severity and level of treatment in any country could increase mortality rate If not all who need ventilators can get them then there will be an increase in death rate So much not known yet I dont think all cases need ventilators or special equipment which is limited in quantity but I wonder if that will impact the mortality rate if the spread is so fastAlso I think about what are my chances to get on a ventilator if it spread in my country and wonder even how much it really helps|1 Sadly we are on the same boat Our company also gets supplies mainly from China We went through the same thing your company did and I am now unemployed since last week I however knew that this would happen since late December when I read about the reports I am looking for new work hopefully online work and I hope everyone going through the same situation recovers from it too|1 This is excellent|1 You know its bad when even FOX News starts saying things that make sense|0 There are 7k people dead today of tbe 80k reported resolved cases A further 80k are ongoing reported cases 7k of those known cases will die within 6 weeks Today 12k new cases were reported 8 of those will result in fatalities And tomorrow we will see an increase in that 12k figure Because transmission rates are growing exponentially So tomorrow we may have 14k new cases And the next day it will be more And ao on and so onYes the mortality rate is less than is being reported right now But thAt is only because of radical underreporting due to lack of testing So you are not wrong but that is sadly not the point|0 Bat it tastes good httpsyoutubeoggAadiAFM|1 I think we can blame our incompetent governments Its no big deal just like the seasonal flu wash your hands dont touch your face In an effort to avoid panic they left their populations woefully unprepared|0 I agree with you fully This is why I want to dismantle the rich They are the ones who steer America Yes we all benefit but we dont hold the reigns here|1 Im more concerned about someone capitalizing on my feels and using my computer to mine bitcoins or as part of a ddos attack etc Ill check it out when I get home though Its a really cool idea|0 That is really a weird fetish|0 the US will get fucked up so bad by this we have no prevention whatsoever basically there will not be a respond to it until its gets really serious or when its too late|0 Yeah that was exactly the kind of panic buying I was trying to get ahead of|0 I still got called that last night even though on CBC news they repeatedly have been saying to make sure you can survive two weeks without leaving your home We got one month ready so I guess were a joke now Husband is a teacher so the chances we get quarantined are pretty high if it spreads in my area|1 I was working with them yesterday Theres is no curfew here yet|0 This subreddit is worse than the Ebola sub was in 2014|0 Partially from an article of Sddeutsche Zeitung a quality newspaper with indepth articles And partially from the german Wikipediahttpswwwsueddeutschedegesundheitcoronavirussuperspreadercovid19147887 after the subtitle Wie hoch die CovidSterberate ist They in turn based the article on WHO data If you look at the lenght of the article you see that this is not one of the usual thrash internet sources|0 Meanwhile in my city in North Louisiana Chick Fil A had a whopping 4 cars in the parking lot eating inside last night usually packed 45 cars We dont have any confirmed cases here and seem to be taking this infinitely more seriously than New Orleans|0 In retrospect this shouldve been obvious in 2016 Stupidity is going to kill us all To be honest sometimes Im envious of the stupid ones Theyre going to die not knowing any better while the rest of us waste our final days arguing with people on Facebook as to why the Coronavirus isnt a hoax designed to cover up 5G syndromehttpthemillenniumreportcom202003coronavirushoaxfakeviruspandemicfabricatedtocoverupglobaloutbreakof5gsyndromefbclidIwAR2v4URoJSUXaUB2L0Gdc8umMi65PxEN9X6QeSOE0qLCnrSocrh3SXHd8wyes I really have a relative who posted this on her feed|0 I hope you understand that if what you said was actually true we wouldnt need governments at all If people were reasonable to each other we wouldnt need laws or courts Newsflash were not We are all selfinterested assholes It is the rules of society that keep us decent to each other Whats 90 of the bible Rules Whats religion RulesThe reason we need governments is expressly because without it we act selfish stupid and irresponsible In 2 weeks youll see all the libertarians arguing why didnt our government do more|0 I fucking love that human being|1 I firmly believe in what this doctor is advocating I think I had COVID a couple weeks ago and megadosed vitamin C and took all of the recommended mineralsvitamins throughout my sickness I also took oregano oil and wormwood extract both have numerous studies showing their antivirals Wormwood specifically has been shown to be very antiviral against SARSLook at my post history if you think Im shilling Ive long been a proponent of megadosing vitamin C when having a virus its always worked for me But you MUST get to bowel tolerance for it to work Bowel tolerance diarrhea It took me 24 hours of vitamin c megadosing to get to bowel tolerance with my latest illness Thats never happened I usually reach bowel tolerance within a couple hours The thinking is the more your body needs vitamin C the longer it takes to get to bowel toleranceEdit i highly recommend the EsterC patented vitamin C its got the most research behind it|1 Dm please|1 Sorry about that this post made me appreciate that rCoronavirusFOS exists |1 The image is fearmongering but there are real complicating domestic factors both cultural and legal that make the statistics hard to trust Most notably the hukou system may be leading to skewed numbersx200BWhile public insurance exists and has been expanded in recent years it is also linked to the hukouChinas ubiquitous residence permit that citizens are born into This policy challenge makes it impossible for rural residents to use their insurance in city hospitals with more qualified staff or for migrant workers who usually work far from where they hold a hukou to access the system at all As a result they avoid using medical services except in dire need often selfmedicatingone reason for Chinas tremendously high usage of overthecounter antibioticsor turning to traditional Chinese medicine practitioners Their often relatively poor health makes them more vulnerable to the virus and more likely to mistake it for a regular cold or flu see this articlehttpsforeignpolicycom20200122wuhancoronavirusquarantinechinawillhitpoorhardestNote that all Chinese cities have higher populations than what is officially reported because a huge amount of their population are illegal workers who never applied to live and work in that city So they cannot access services like health care has Beijing waived this provision to deal with the crisis I have no idea But the Wuhan mayor said around 5 million left the city before the quarantine went into effect and I presume many of these may have been rural migrant workers Where did they go Are they getting treatment if they need it where they are Did any of them have treatment in Wuhan but its not recorded The water is very muddied|0 This news and 50 related comments looks fake as fuck|0 Sorry to hear that We are tracking the impacts of COVID19 on mental health on our site There are lots of people feeling anxious in this situation you are not aloneYou can selfreport as your symptoms and situation change and see similar anonymised selfreports in your areahttpscovid19trackcomhttpscovid19trackcomWed love your feedback|1 If you cant have a sense of humor you might as well go take a deep breath in your local hospitals ICU|1 Thank you Hopefully in time there will be a breakdown for the other areas of the UK|1 Id also advise that you buy hard cheese such as parmesan or cheddar They keep for up to 8 months in the freezer 2 4 months in the fridge if kept inside their packaging and they contain 10 times as much calcium per unit weight as milk 100g of cheese will cover your entire RDA for calcium|0 If youre thinking about stocking up do it now That option might not be available later if panic buying starts like is being reported in some parts of the US|0 What we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|0 Well compare that to other countries Full of corruption abuse of power getting away with crime sheer inequalityI personally think Singapore is a much better role model than China even for larger countries|0 You have to consider why its even allowed though The CCP knows the risks involved and they allow the innocent Chinese people take part in this but every government should have its citizens best interest in mind This is a demonstration of how the CCP failed to take measures against eating weird stuff even after SARS which should have been their wakeup call|1 Please share this with all the doctors in the United States busy covering their ears and saying this is a cold|1 Australia is doing alright not sure what you mean That said have two family members going today for testing but its probably just a flu|0 That is what really baffles meThe same mistakes over and over and over I really wonder what makes them think it would be different for them|0 Treatment of illness is already an EHBCritical IllnessDefined IllnessHospital ConfinementDisability IncomeBusiness Overhead Expense policies are what would cover your lost wages but most people dont want to pay extra for one of those plans|0 I sold all of my stock in my 401k 3 weeks ago Turned out to be a pretty good idea Buying back in soon|1 Italy has a total of 2500 Ventilators in the whole country I call this Not well prepared Are you sure thats right That seems like a terribly small number for even normal times considering Italy has a population of 60 million there must be more than 2500 people who need ventilators|0 I could see this subreddit being taken over later on Mods should get extra known people willing to be open and transparent if they need ahead of time They also should warn us the moment they are approached by a government official so we can know when things go the way of rTheDonald|0 Thank you Ive ordered some masks Is that even effective|1 Have the reporters been able to get tested yet Ive been looking for information on that and cant find anything about it I mean they have video proof of their exposure to a confirmed case so they should be able to get tested Wouldnt be surprised if theyre denied though|0 Thanks for 2016 too while were at it Its been a great four years|1 Thats clearly what the data from china shows A large increase in CFR due to lack of care facilities in wuhan|1 Videos in this threadWatch Playlist 9654httpsubtletvcomrf6yzf2featureplaylistnline1VIDEOCOMMENTWhen they tell you not to panic thats when you runhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchv6pKRP1DmRAU16httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi8cpxscontext10fi8cpxs WHEN THEY TELL YOU NOT TO PANIC THATS WHEN YOU RUNPress conference in San Antonio about Corona VirushttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvBmiKeTgKub86httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi8ih3econtext10fi8ih3e Grown ups from the CDC says Asymptomatic cases arent contagious From the New England journal of medicine article titled Sarscov2 viral load in upper respiratory specimens of infected patients The viral load that was detected from nasal sThe aerial photography of Wuhan night scene httpwwwyoutubecomwatchv2FB8NETkxjA6httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi8kixkcontext10fi8kixk This is a novel Coronavirus This means it is a new Coronavirus we have never seen before that is why it was called novel new Coronavirus Our bodies havent encountered it before and cant fight it It is far more related to SARS than the commCoronaVirus Is Spreading In buffalo NYhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvyuO8FtIFrQ1httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fia57hncontext10fia57hn Do you live in Buffalo I know that theres an outbreak of coronavirus in Buffalo Theres a youtuber named Shrimp Zoo who said he had 6 male students from China come in and he says at least one tested positive for the coronavirus and they were cougNewsNow Live Fauci participates in CFR forum on global health threats WHOhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvyT3rMQa1DJgt474s1httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi93gjlcontext10fi93gjl Worth watching this panel It shows that capable people in the United States do take this threat seriously and are taking steps to prepareaddress it Also deniability and preventing panic are a part of the long term contingency It delays chaos alloContagion Film Clip 10httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvoyWN9bW9xQ0httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi897t1context10fi897t1 httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvoyWN9bW9xQHomeland Security Roundtable on CoronavirushttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvZfB3KjGzZbo0httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf6yzf2fi8x0mecontext10fi8x0me The US is doing a heck of a lot better than Canada Heres the transparency youre looking for its just your media is not transmitting it correctly But at least the government has it If you all watched this whole thing youd end up feeling a lotIm a bot working hard to help Redditors find related videos to watch Ill keep this updated as long as I canPlay Allhttpsubtletvcomrf6yzf2featureplaylistftrlnk1 InfohttpsnpredditcomrSubtleTVwikimentionedvideos Get me on Chromehttpschromegooglecomwebstoredetailmentionedvideosforreddfiimkmdalmgffhibfdjnhljpnigcmohf FirefoxhttpsaddonsmozillaorgenUSfirefoxaddonmentionedvideosforreddit|1 Im seeing way too many posts praising censorship in the last few days coincident with the National Guard getting deployed and these tech companies meeting with the White House to coordinate messaging|1 First community spread here in Edmonton and Ill pull my kid Risk to kids is low but were Entrepreneurs so if we get sick were screwed The risk of kids dying is basically nil and things seem pretty okay for the under 50 range too Fortunate enough that my wife and I can make the situation work I cant imagine the decisions other parents will have to face|0 Normalcy bias Most people do not take the necessary precautions for impending disaster and ignore or dismiss warnings I think its something like only 30 of people who do actually focus on preparedness in case of disaster people who are not complacent and have an understanding that things can and do actually go wrong sometimes seriously so|0 Yep this would need to be understood first|1 Nothing to worry about only Wuhan infected|0 Please look at the studies before youre spreading false informationThe first study had problems conducting their research because compliance was low and found this initial resultResults We recruited 286 adults with exposure to respiratory infections in the Australian winters of 2006 and 2007 94 adults were randomized to surgical masks 90 to P2 masks and 102 to the control group Using intention to treat analysis we found no significant difference in the relative risk of respiratory illness in the mask groups compared to control groupThe second study found thisone such study was conducted by a team of researchers from the University of MichiganTrusted Source on more than 1000 students living in residence halls They assigned the student to groups those who wore masks those who wore masks and practiced hand hygiene and those who did neither The results showed that those who wore masks in residence halls and practiced good handwashing reduced their risk of flulike illness by an astonishing 75 percentWearing a mask didnt reduce infection rates Lowered infection rates were only observed in the group that wore masks and practiced good handwashing The conclusion seems to be that good handwashing is the significant factor|1 Yes in theory but if your country is low on stock leave it for the medical staff who need it more There was a period of time in China where medical staff in Wuhan flat out ran out of medical N95s and surgical masks while regular citizens in say Shanghai have boxes of them just sitting at home Yes wear masks but for the sake of medical staff dont go out of your way to purchase the types of masks that they need|1 I agree with you just that your initial comment sounded like infected people are quarantined on the ship|1 Yes|1 Richmond here Grocery stores are pretty bare but theyre better stocked I would imagine than SW Virginia I think today was a turnimg point for a lot of people taking this more seriously I assume the virus is everywhere at this point at least in some capacity People asked for this and still are Its crazy Stay safe out there|1 Which possibly was somewhat reclusive naturallyThey were not reclusive They regularly infiltrate regular churches to gain members congregate with one another all the time for Bible study worship in heavily crowded churches with lots of personal contact and go out into the public often in groups to try and convert people over to their sect They also operated businesses and worked like regular people and some of them were even a part of the emergency response team in Daegu who were supposed to be dealing with the outbreak And they were still doing this after the outbreak until the authorities caught on to them|1 Believe me Im educated My response was to the original poster who portrayed the situation as denying tests from the WHO because of Commie ties and a statement that America refuses to think anything foreign will work No one actually understands the motivation for the why the agency decided to create a more complicated and comprehensive test your reference states BTW that the test kit CORRECTLY identified COVID19 but there was a reason Im not saying they were right but I could understand for example if someone justified while were testing someone with a fever wouldnt it be great if we could tell them what they are sick from even if its not COVID19 so they could get treated this would save a lot of time and frustration for the patient|0 Yeah I was given a bullshit 14 day ban and when I ask them specifically which terms I have broken by referring to their own policy doc I get muted without a rational explanation Its moding on a whim in other words real dictatorship Imagine if these people had any actually powerThey also lack consistency For if they where being consistent then they should have also banned everyone who responded positively to my comments andor liked them|0 Ive been battling these dismissive antipreparedness trolls on this site all week and what Ive found out is that most of them are the fuck you Ive got mine kind|0 Yeah FCPS district is considering online schooling at this point|1 Theres none listed by the CDC in the US currently so no Take a look at the link provided to see what areas are considered International Areas with Sustained Ongoing Transmission Those would be considered hotzones|0 As it was explained here and at other places over thousand times already survival greatly depend on the quality of medical care About 1020 of all cases require heavy medical intervention If a lot of people get sick at the same time and the healthcare system is overwhelmed the fatality rates can and will be much higher than 2 And that may include your parents and grandparents unless you have one or two medical ventilators at home|0 They are already using UV sterilizing robots in hospitals in um somewhere like Japan or South Korea or maybe even China I just heard about it this morning on the radio|1 Is there a consensus on the a ability of Covid 19 to affect neurons and cause encephalitis|1 Once 70 has been exposed enough of the herd have immunity that it protects the remaining 30|1 Yay Just what I need Food prepared at a facility where they are performing virus testing|1 Wow H1N1 is really active this year I remember it making headlines but its the majority of cases now|1 I hope that lots of lives can be saved by creative increases of hospital capacity and that this isolation flattens the curve to get under itI can see the govt too has to think about the mega hit to the economy and how to help people from the bottom up I hope they dont prioritize industry bailouts as much as they prioritize people their lives health and their finances too|1 Its cuz they are checking Good job SK|1 No I am for testing only symptomatic people who are given and have a negative flu test Dont want to bog down the tests for asymptomatic people I am shocked you asked when asymptomatic|0 Vitamin D also plays a rolehttpsnewsharvardedugazettestory201702studyconfirmsvitamindprotectsagainstcoldandfluThis is not some new age bsThe study a participant data metaanalysis of 25 randomized controlled trials including more than 11000 participants has been published online in The BMJ|1 Statements like this are very misleading if youre not comparing those percentages to the population Unless 50 of Dutch people are over 50 its still definitely hitting older people harder And then what percentage in the ICU are under 40 Under 30These idiots going out and not even tempting fate but daring fate are still idiots whether theyre in an especially vulnerable demographic or not|1 It takes the effort of the billions of people to stop the virus And it takes only one super spreader to ruin it|0 Not quite R0 is a number IN PRACTICE In the present tense Currently It is a description of what the virus is doing right now It is not a set characteristic It changes So it can be said to be less than 1 in the USA but 5 in China etc|0 Please post your experience in rdeniedcovidtesting|1 Saw groups of kids outside everywhere today Looks like summer vacation started early|1 Coors LightId rather die|0 I love Dune but every time I see Kwisatz Haderach I remember National Lampoons Doon parody and read it as Kumkwat Haagendasz instead|1 So tragic These doctors dying when they are working to save lives Its heartbreaking really RIP|0 Its just fucking sad that it took this long to get some results going for them It just goes to show you when they want elections and votes theyll do anything to help their image|0 Yes there is They can act like other countries such as South Korea who were proactive rather than simply reactive|1 yep crazy|0 A 3 mortality rate with 1 million canadians infected would be 30000|0 I used to come read this and rcoronavirus for updates on things but man this is super paranoid hypochondriac type of thing going on hereI get it yes the virus is bad but it makes me think a ton of people WANT to cause chaos|0 100 true httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf6dyagcdcupdateonlytwelvenewtests|1 This is all you need to know about food safety in Chinahttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvzrv78nG9R04httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvzrv78nG9R04|1 You can have empathy while realizing its not best to keep a wedding on when everything else shuts down around you Saying its not wise is not lacking empathy but sure if thats what you want to take from it then go ahead|1 I know of at least one patient in their 30s who is not looking good Twitterhttpswebarchiveorgweb20200308212455httpstwittercomFYangEPstatus1236723843097649154|0 i have been saying the same thing and people started hating me lets see how you will do|0 Im sorry to hear this what a mess If you dont mind me asking what job did you have that laid off its staff right in the beginning of this panic Im curious to know did the business itself fold since it was running on thin margins|0 So nice to SHARE it with his daughter Even if its not covid19 why would you cough then touch dother and drink her water|1 That is an interesting chain reaction but all of that would have to occur in extreme fashion and that is unlikely We were already on the brink of a crash just due to time and Trump being a moron they were just waiting for an excuse Im not suggesting that if wont suck but crash is not collapse and I dont even believe collapse is anything but a paranoid myth If society did not collapse when 13 of the entire population of Europe died they arent going collapse when 1 of them die regardless We are very crafty humans and life will go on with adjustments like it always has People think Mad Max or something but that is literally a fantasy Things can get really sucky and scary though at times and a lot of people that are physically weak even without the virus will die just bc of stress and disuption In a way it was better when as individuals we werent so reliant on shipments of things from far around the world just to stay alive|0 rwtf material People with substantial wealth always get in front of the line Titanic all over again|1 Sometimes the biggest heroes are the ones who simply do the right thing|1 Taiwans government learned from its 2003 SARS experience and established a public health response mechanism for enabling rapid actions for the next crisis Welltrained and experienced teams of officials were quick to recognize the crisis and activated emergency management structures to address the emerging outbreak Learned from its experience is the key thing out of this|0 Thank goodness|1 Patient confidentially and privacy probablyWould still be a good idea|1 I smoke only in my job and dont smoke at home my job is really stressful so makes me smoke|0 Unless you advocate for giving old people young bodys we are who you have And yes millenials have more current attitudes on our responsibilities as a society These shifts have always happened as we adapt the new challenges Millennials have to correct views for this point in time Caveman nationalism is being replaced with pragmatic humanism in most cases and it will be better for the majority of people then any other time in history If the snap had to happen a lot more people would volunteer now where as before people were more selfish|1 While I wont have any problems I wonder about people in New York with 1500 rent|1 The best argument Ive heard is thisIf I had a bag of 100 skittles where if you ate 92 youd live and 8 youd die you wouldnt eat any fucking skittles I gave youThis doesnt even factor in that another 7 skittles would put you in critical condition|0 No it must be the children who are wrong|0 Very nice|1 That is really really weird Alright|1 I think its basically irrelevant to consider if China is truthful about the number of infected because China doesnt know that number no one does All China can do is test and report the number of confirmed positives The same is true for any countryThe true number of infected is a number that is unknowable without testing every one multiple times This is logistically impossible so it is just an unknowable number in realityThe number dead due to Cov is also unknowable without knowing the number infected People die due to other things every day So in practice it is also impossible to know how many people died due to this virus Any confirmed deaths number is by construction a lower bound on the true number|0 and a 300 office fee because the local hospital owns the office the doctor is using and 300 for bloodwork at the lab it was sent to Oh and the doctor was a preferred provider but the lab wasnt so your insurance isnt going to cover the blood work Oh and it turns out we arent gonna pay for the office visit either because of the way your doctor coded your diagnosis There was no way you could have known that until it was too late but shopformedicalcare and all that works trickle down something something murica|0 Theyre not taking any precautions in the US so all the workers will get it and then give it to you If you want to make a difference start giving management shit so they make a move|0 Yes we do enjoy our birdbaths|1 I watched videos of Italians singing at night yesterday and I cried like I was watching the similar video from Wuhan a month ago We are all in this together Stay strong Blessings from Shanghai|1 Seattle for sure|1 If I recall the biggest issue is the lack of ventilators that go with ICU beds Can someone confirm|0 Seems like better data reportingI was always interested in how many tests and how many negatives Now it seems that the health services people have clued into the reasons why its good to post that dataAnyways better data reporting is good|1 I dont know if this is just an American thing or what but theres so much arrogance of people thinking oh it wont happen to me thats CHINA of course they have it|0 Yes herehttpswwwnytimescom20200202worldasiachinacoronaviruswuhanhtmlutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfclickhttpstcok9w3BxFT0u|1 I dont think they count the undiagnosed who die in the street or in their homes|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Nn Boy Aside from the tens of Ss thousands more cases deaths that will happen I thought it couldnt get Aa any worse|0 For over a month China tried to hide the spread of the virus let tens of thousand of people travel outside the province and around the world Its all on China they are completly responsible for the deaths of our loved ones|1 In vitro I cant find it now but I am pretty sure there was something about in vivo chloroquine phosphate was more effective But either way they both seem to work quite well|1 FYI It really helps get a response if you email company executives and CC a relevant National News reporter andor legal authority It just takes a few minutes of google For example This ladyhttpswwwwashingtonpostcompeoplejeannewhalen has recently written about price gouging for the Washington Post You can find author contacts under relevant articlesTo find corporate contacts just google Ebay CEO email and with a bit of verification you can find emails for key leadershipAlso consider CCing your states office of attorney general as they typically handle price gouging|1 Take care of yourself as best as you can and know that you are a hero for those of us who are not equipped with your talents|1 In the sense of pandemic meaning out of control spreading on multiple continents Im not sure how you currently could define nCov as in that state Its out of control in China and potentially neighboring countries|0 There should be criminal charges for stupid shit like this|0 They are closer to Indonesia they are straight up denying the spread|0 Since US sanctions were imposed in Iran Iran has developed closer ties to China Students who used to go to the US to study now go to Iran Business ties to China have also increased so not much mystery about whats happening now in Iran|1 Met those ignorant idiots too Ignore them Let them be the first to know what the virus is really like|0 I will calm down and stop panicking just as soon as the people telling me to calm down and stop panicking are able to show me that they are capable of controlling the situation that they have a plan and that the plan has a believable reasoning behind it For now I see none of that I openly state my biases I despise the trudeau government To me the current response is the same lack of leadership and inability to execute on anything substantive that has plagued everything else our federal government touches A serious response to me would include an actionable list of things average people should do including a generic list of what having 14 days of supplies on hand actually entails and should not do you need a months toilet paper not 6 frank and honest advice especially for the elderly and vulnerable stay home you are at much higher risk of ER visits and death from this truthful warnings about contingency plans for example that daycare and schools will be shut down in a true pandemic and start finding alternate arrangements now an economic plan for workers who get furloughedtemporarily laid off because of labor or supply chain disruption or need to stay home to watch their kids and so on|0 Who hurt you|0 Its true Its a small local coffee shop chain called Wakanda theyve been delivering couple hundreds of free coffees every day to hospitals in Wuhan Im too lazy to provide proof Its a nice gesture not everything is propaganda Youd be surprised how people granted not all people can be good in difficult times I know a bunch of foreigners still in Wuhan some of them trying to help out the best they can even if its only little things Maybe youd rather have more stories about people freaking out|1 Or well you know the Netherlands We have Amsterdam you know|1 To be honest their wet markets are the main reason things like this happen|1 what safe location how do you isolate 3700 passengers the ship is actually a very good place as they have their own rooms and own bathrooms there are very limited places to find that elsewhere|1 There was this lady in my town that drank vanilla extract because she was such an alcoholic that no store would sell her mouthwash or hand sanitizer anymore|1 So how the fuck are other countries testing 20000 a day if this is such a rare fucking chemicaltestThey are less worried about profits im guessing|0 Genuinely Im not trying to be contentious but what should they be doing to get a handle on this Its a difficult situation for sure If they followed chinas actions and started large quarantines I think that could set off a global panic but then if they dont it spreads more Which could set up a global panic|0 Respilon has already developed and released a nanofiber face mask that maintains efficiency after 50 washes They are releasing a new nanofibre facemask in the next month or so that also incorporates copper into it which actively kills viruses|1 Thanks|1 Absolutely there probably is a lot of other things going on that we arent seeing So many systems are a complicated balance Just curious how much of an effect this is having and what those other factors are|1 We did 13k test yesterday and 12k the day beforeI confirm we are testing only symptomatic people In the beginning we were testing anyone suspected and where actually killing testing labs and roughly 90 percent of those tests were negativesBut the real numbers of infected people is belived to be 1020 times higher by our epidemiologists|0 Probably a prisoner being taken to hospital happens all the time|0 It will certainly dull how many people will get it if they have to pay 4 grand for it|1 We didnt have any then suddenly we did It was weird Im in WA and it went from well consider it maybe if you were in Wuhan within the last three hours s14 days to oh youre in high school and havent left the country and your throat hurts Lets test for covid and tell the national mediaIt Was Weird|0 Im in UK so its fine where i am Thats not good|0 Theyre more at risk If youre over 80 theres a 15 chance of death But it has killed people from all age groups except children|0 Is that a joke Who do you think owns the legal system|1 Thanks And I just toggled a setting so now it is now downloadable |1 What part of the country are you from or even state to keep your location safe Curious because when you consider the number of travelers I wouldnt surprised if any illness can spread like wildfire these days In March and April for example well over a million people travel through Southwest Florida International Airport That isnt a major airport when compared to some that is a lot of people|1 The government should told the landlords to fuck off|0 Can we start one for enacting the delay ASAP|0 might not be the best idea when full of shitfyipeople are talking about using tissues as toilet paper|0 Heres a good bit of text National Health Institute Chief Silvio Brusaferro said the average age of patients who have died was over 81 They were prevalently male and more than 80 had more than two underlying health conditions|0 or wherever they havent been scrapped yet because running just fine go on route|1 Pandemic means its a threat to the entire world|0 It is a chink in the armor If they allow for 1 time to call the president wrong maybe there ARE more|0 It also ignores the fact that they definitely arent accoubting the acrual number of cases|1 Im not a catholic or even religious Still would be sad if he passed Seems like a nice dude|1 Interesting|1 I really admire his candor I was shocked he was so open and honest and just so real with his information and answers|1 Haha look at his updated comment|1 They make a travel pack that is 20 count Ive always brought one with me in my carryon to wipe tray table and Ive never had a problem with security If you cant find that pack just do as others say take up to 20 flattenfold them put in a zip lock bag Make sure there isnt liquid dripping into the bag|1 Firsttime poster here Its irritating that the kneejerk reaction on these threads is to punish the bad billionaires What about the thousands of employees who have bills to pay and mouths to feed The domino effect a failed airline will have on other airlines and even airports What about essential air freight As an example Im a healthcare professional radiographer who works for a major manufacturer of CT MRI and other medical imaging equipment When a system breaks down a replacement part is flown into the UK within 24 hours from our factory in Europe to get the lifesaving equipment up and running again ASAP These systems are overworked at the best of times In the coming months they will be absolutely critical This would not be possible without a functioning aviation industry People need to set aside politics and see the bigger picture here A collapse of the aviation industry would have a catastrophic impact on our tax revenue and subsequent funding of the NHS and vital logistics Such bailouts are quite simply the cheaper option Personally I dont give a shit that a handful of billionaires get to keep their yachts too|0 What a fucking mess|0 You guys likely arent the worst hit right now by a long shot Youre just one of the few countries that took it seriously early on|1 No you wont nobody other than the people this directly affects will remember the guy that printed the vialsTheyll get fucked in the ass for being a hero two people on reddit will feed bad for a few minutes maybe they get a couple bucks off of GoFundMe and well all go back to whatever the fuck normal is|0 Antarctica has no cases yet jus sayin Lol|1 Yes its awful|0 Too close to home I dont think quarantine is that effective with this virus It should be stretched to at least 24 days IMO|1 This is so very important Thank you so much for this|1 My girlfriend over 50 and respiratory issues and I 50 with multiple comorbidities talking yesterday that natural born citizens have never had to live with the restrictions other countries had to under wartime situations but we are all going to be doing so for the foreseeable future Everyone needs to remember this isnt about just YOU or MEits about US We arent in this alone and everyone has to make a sacrifice for the greater good If you are healthy and feel you MUST do something to get out of the house volunteer with your local food pantries donate blood or plasma volunteer at the hospitals sign up to deliver groceries to the elderly or those who are ill check on your neighbors do yard work to get outdoors go for a walkrun We can get through this if we all work together|1 I like this story and this flair|1 What medical expert Still dont have a name for this mysterious ER doctor Anyone can write an opinion piece and litter it with sourcesstill doesnt make them an expertName please Thanks|1 How is this title misleading|0 If we are we are not doing that voluntarily Medics are overwhelmed everywhere here in the north they are giving more importance to patients than various testing I just hope that these two or three weeks passes with my family being ok|1 There are no funerals at this time The dead are taken away and buried privately The families will be informed later on their location|0 It was only bat piss|0 As a landlord myself my tenants would get free rent as long as my mortgage is frozen Its not like Id be losing much anyway besides taxes and insurance fees|0 Ok Nowhere did it say he wasnt Its a huge gamble with many peoples health on the line Are you arguing that its ok to break containment during an epidemic that could easily become a pandemic|1 Thats just not true If that would be the case then there would be thousands of deaths a day Look at the deaths in italy|0 Ive been infuriated for days but now Im super curious about this classified briefing|1 Who can i call to make their day worse I am home doing nothing anyway|0 OH SHIT|0 so what Italy didnt play with biohazard materialsit was China that brought this onto the worldthey set the world on firewhen somebody sets your house on fireand then brings a buckethe is still an asshole|0 Unfortunately half the nurses in my department are now parroting the lie|0 Hello to the newly joined To answer some of what youre thinking Yes this is a pretty serious issue No the media is not fear mongering A lot of concerned citizens have felt that the media has under reported this issue for about 68 weeks and only started ramping up coverage when it affected the US economy No it is not the end of the world but this may disrupt our society in ways we are simply not used to It also has the potential to impact the health of those we love which makes it worrisome No this is not the flu Its much more deadly but just as easy to transmit which is why it is concerning|1 If they do this Thiland could become Wuhan2 Because thats what Wuhan did and the huge number of infection got out of hand and hospitals began to be overloaded|1 Lack of trust in authority is what causes panic The truth does NOT cause panic if people trust leadership But we have the worst of both worlds now obviously lying obvious incompetence and a complete lack of trust in authority When it can no longer be covered up it will be chaotic and no one is going to be able to control the public because the public will not listen to someone they do not trust|0 I will be messaging you in 20 days on 20200325 204343 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003252020434320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdj1b2atthisratetherecouldbe17millioncasesin3fjht7nocontext345 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffdj1b22Fatthisratetherecouldbe17millioncasesin32Ffjht7no2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032520203A433A4320UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fdj1b2InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Flu and a joke I keep seeing that meme listing all the big outbreaks happening during election years|0 I like the final scene that shows how she got it|1 Dont go onto these subreddits for advice Its a bad idea because theyre filled with people that are scared and those that are greatly exaggerating the effect this virus is going to haveIf anything itll only result in you being more scared which is not good by any measure Just follow official advice for your area it will have been provided by people that at least know somewhat what theyre talking about instead of Google virologists like youll find on these subreddits|0 Yeah the paper singles out OC43 and HKU1 which both cause colds as generating crossreactive antibodies for original SARS If it turns out true for COVID even just on the margins would be a pleasant little cowpoxsmallpox rhyme|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This made me chuckle If we all wash our hands we can stop skynet together|1 I will NEVER trust a western government in a crisis ever again Its fucking disgraceful the extent that all of them have dropped the ball here Honestly This has just hammered home to me that NOONE IN THE WEST HAS A FUCKIGN CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING Everyone including me is just winging it in their day to day|0 Have they still hidden the number of tested people though|1 No|0 I work in a major psychiatric hospital and we are about to have an emergency meeting Things are about to get bad especially for our most vulnerable people|0 I dont think it would be futile every infected case is another coordinate you can use to triangulate the common source so to speak|0 Is this home isolationEdit thanks for the additional info and the links|1 Big tobacco owns juul and all the other vaping companies Big tobacco IS big vape They dont benefit from increasing the age to 21 or banning flavors It decreases profits tremendously However it makes it look like theyre doing something to avoid scrutiny by feds and other agencies|1 Agree We are hearing on one channel that its a cold and on the other to get to our bunker PersonallyI am unsure if I should be prepping and probably adding to the hysteria or just going about my regular day but with extra precautions AND I consider myself to be pretty well read about this I have read everything I can get my hands on from the WHO and CDC so understandably people are losing their shit On the federal level the response is a damn three ring circus shitshow Thankfully State governments are stepping up and taking the lead where the federal government is lacking Michigans response I feel has been proactive informative and reassuring|1 He followed up with An update because I see people overly speculating on total outbreak size Our best current expectation is a few hundred current infections Expect more analyses tomorrowhttpstwittercomtrvrbstatus1233975581974228994|1 Thank you|1 Make sure to wipe such devices with alcohol before using them|1 And organizations who will not allow their workers to work remote even though the remote ability is already availableyes this is a thing|1 httpswwwgooglecomampsbostoncbslocalcom20200306coronavirusbiogenmeetingbostonlongwharfmarriotthotelmassachusettsamp Oh boy This could be bad|0 Nothing wrong with a clean slate|1 Meanwhile in Austria turkish woman asks austrian cashier in half emptied supermarket if therell be a delivery today austrian cashier idk turkish woman not happy goes on with her inquiry to be able to plan her day 345pm austrian cashier now annoyed in loud slang how should i know you can go to YOUR shop across the street referring to the turkish supermarket it would be so nice if community unity togetherreally meant something|0 Even worse is stomach flu or 24hour flu that is norovirus or some foodborne illness not flu|0 No India is screwed if Coronavirus comes over there Plenty of elderly lots of smokers and many Indians suffer from tuberculosis and other respiratory problems India will be a hot bed for the virus|0 AHAHAHAHA taking one from the US well they will share a similar fate|1 Your country is so broken 50k from a dog bite Is that real|0 Maybe do some reading on the subject and how America managed to fuel its soldiers on the meat industry Yeah I get it its 2020 and most people can choose not to eat meat but at the end of the day its an important source of protein deeply routed in western culture and other cultures around the world and its not gonna change any time soon Get over the fact that some people choose to eat meat I honestly thought vegetarians and vegans take more offense to the act of killing animals not about the antibiotics theyre given most of your ideals are great when theyre not clouded by a lack of knowledge on why the meat industry exists in the first place Your real problem isnt with meat its with people|1 leave it to reddit experts|0 Grandparents should not be babysitters and we need to freeup healthcare workers who are going to be on the forefront as well as infrastructure workersthis is it right here|1 This is true The only thing that stops them from being a researchers wet dream is an unrepresentative population sample|1 Do people believe Italy Spain and other countries are handling the outbreak well|1 There are videos of people emptying out Costco and pictures of empty shelves Oh right its just a bad flu s|0 Outside of China nothing is happening And its only big in China because the government failed to react Not because its some superbug|0 We need a poll to see what of Chinese would rather risk contracting the virus than wearing this|0 Its already mutated 3 times though and god knows what the next one will do Do not have a false sense of security|1 As others said there probably wont be a vaccine Some very smart people have explained why but the makeup of this virus means its probably not happening Someone else said that its also inevitable that we will all catch it eventually as this becomes like another cold virus I personally am starting to fear needing the hospital for anything else during the outbreak almost as much or more than the virus itself That and food shortages Go with your gut though my wife had a work trip planned to Italy about 3 weeks ago shes pregnant I made her cancel and she was pissed said that it could ruin her career Turns out I was right|0 Any idea what it was you upvoted that got you this notice would love to go give it an upvote|1 Lol all of my friends Minu the 2 that are in my quarantine party have been going to brunch Bars shopping nails the gym Probably the worst places to be when shit like this is spreading|1 The real question is can we use the government for refusing to test|0 I would think some big pharmaceutical company would want to get in on this Imagine how rich they would be if they were the only source of testing kits|1 Because they are fun If you live your entire life in fear and dont experience anything whats the point of living Sure exercise some extra caution right now but normally things like concerts are perfectly fine and a great experience|1 Is it really risky to go outside I did a bike tour today also near zurich there were many people on the roads As far as I understand going outside is not a problem as long as you stay away from other people Is this true|1 Unfortunately the US has a LOT of idiots|0 Good point Good thing hes a legend|1 Hope doesnt protect you from death If you are using cannabis and happy thoughts to treat cancer you will soon be a corpse|0 Perhaps its MecklenburgVorpommern That number would check out The country is Germany|1 Budget better and get better job I dont have single problem paying for Healthcare It is negligible expense and my deductible is high and I hit it by April every year|1 Its kinda like abused spouses Theyve been so conditioned to being treated badly that they think that is normal and that normal is a lie or there has to be a catch somewhere|0 What do you think it is Globally weve got 8248 deaths right now to 82104 recovered so thats 10 pretty exactly But presumably thats among people showing symptoms and getting tested Its much closer to 13 no doubt|0 This will be happening everywhere Get as prepared as you can|1 Damnit I was at seatac yesterday This makes me so mad|0 Thank you Report this post I am|1 Yes millions of bankruptcy would be great|1 Ok so the CFR is not accurate anymore|1 Thats a pretty good idea|1 Your submission has been removed Celebrating advocating threatening suggesting or inciting violence death or physical harm is not allowed in rChinaFlu and it is also against reddits sitewide content policyhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentIf you believe we have made a mistake help be the change you want to see Mod applications now open here httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1themoderationteamofrchinafluislookingtoIf you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Youre my favorite bot|1 The issue is that the company making these masks needs to consider the future risk of lawsuits That dumbass who sues them will likely lose but the company will have to hire lawyers and pay money for that and deal with the PR falloutNow its probably not a big issue here because this company or research group will be swimming in toilet paper and hand sanitizer by this time tomorrow This is not just incredibly useful for this pandemic its also a massive improvement on most currently available N95 masks and could potentially lead to significant cost savings for hospitals down the road depending on the production cost But its a thing that most companies need to consider when releasing a new product cause people are dumbasses|1 Good to know I will check out their website They probably are a little swamped at the moment but Ill give things time to settle and see whats what Thanks for the info|1 They are probably all dead by now|0 She was even asking for unpaid leave They suggested she use her sick pay to take days off if she wanted But she wants to keep her sick pay because she may get sick|0 Missed the opportunity to call him a pansy|1 Flights and hotel wont be but ultimately its not the money Im upset about Been trying for edc for years and finally the stars aligned And then the coronavirus aligned even harder aha|0 One of the papers was saying that if R0 is as high as they assume they would need to stop 73 to have any effect on stopping the spread|0 It doesnt matter If the factories dont manufacture and China does not export there will be massive economic repercussions This will lead to a global recession|0 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiRobertRRedfield Dude is a virologist and retired colonel with 20yr in the medical corps Im sure he doesnt need to rub elbows|1 My natural state is being a home body I grumble about having to leave the house even when there isnt a pandemic|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I mean you say it like a fact that we can create a vaccine quickly now because of advanced technology yet recent vaccines still took years You use the excuse the demand lowered and that may be true but even with that considered it leaves the door open for the question if we can Maybe if the demand didnt go away we would have made a vaccine much quicker neither you or I know Its possible but nothing in recent history shows that its guranteed|1 Was told the same thing about masks They said only wear a mask if your sick cause we dont want to scare the patients Well being that I could have the virus for 14 days before I get a symptom Im just going to assume I have itAlso if a patient wants a mask they need to ask 3 times before we can give them one|1 Thank you for verifying this This is exactly what I understood but because we arent really testing in the US I wanted to make sure I do not understand what is going on here with not doing testing Its very unsettling|1 shit|0 The disinformation campaign that accompanied the announcement of the virus had the goal of spreading the falsehoods that Its not as bad as the flu and It has been contained in ChinaPeople incredibly still believe that garbageThe other strands of disinformation include Its only dangerous for the elderly or those with underlying health conditions and It has mild symptoms for many people like having a cold What those issues avoid discussing is the fact that US hospitals will be overrun unable to treat people who simply have a heart attack or broken arm and that the global supply chain problems should start being visible later this month and may last 3 or 4 months|0 That should make his cult feel very safe|1 Fauci said that tonight on CBS and he is the only one in that group who seems credible at this point I have definitely watched Azar telling lies 2 days ago Pence this morning I dont know what to believe But there have been plenty of shenanigans and people writing that they cannot test or be tested I guess i probably need a break from all that But it for sure seems like the federal agencies CDC and FDA are not facilitating broad testing but limiting it with the conditions on who gets tested and the political guys just say whatever And the white house is definitely the only interested party in surpressing the size of the outbreak the stock market isnt buying it Doctors and researchers want testing States want to clamp down and save lives Literally the only one seems to be trump who literally has been trying to lie his way out of this reflecting on his presidency Is there something else to see that i am missing|1 Fr I got fired for wearing gloves and a mask to work Fuck yall any way|0 Haha yeah i got banned for asking and wanting to understand why they thought Australia blocking non citizen and non permanent residents who have been to china was racist or unfair considering China quarantined 50 million of its own peopleThey dont know what racism isbut know how to throw that word around to get attention|0 Its kind of annoying to make claims like this without evidence and then when youre asked where your evidence is you tell other people to research it on a different subreddit to find your evidence|0 Thats one humanitarian effort and will help stopping the infections|1 That sub and chinaflu will downvote you unless you submit that the Coronavirus has a minimum 25 hospitalization rate 7 death rate and will infect 70 of earth that the Olympics are 100 cancelled heat cannot even slow the virus 1 and that ANY good news is a government lying a coverup or some conspiracy to make frogs gay|0 Im sick and tired of seeing this stuff Do you understand how hard it is to effectively pull this kind of thing off The US has a large population spread out through a large area These people are free and do not want to change their lives This is not like China where they can control their people like slaves and handle a pandemic like a board game And the entire world is going through what the US is going through Shortages of health supplies scrambling to adjust to this situation Not a single country had prepared 2 months in advance because it wasnt realistic to start implementing these kinds of measures when it was starting to grow in China People would not have accepted it Also America in particular has more bases to cover than any other country because we are the largest 1st world country that has democracy So people seriously need to stop criticizing and make the best of what they have and take on to themselves to be safe because it is childish to think the government is supposed to do everything for you There hasnt been a single time in the history of mankind that a pandemicplague was handled like it shouldve been And its real easy to look back and say why didnt they do anything when nobody including you ever thought it come to this height of severity|0 New York and Tokyo have more than one floor tooMy point is that when we think of Tokyo we have this sense of being packed on subways and people everywhere yet this cruise ship with no way to get off is way way more packed like orders of magnitude more packedIf proximity matters in transmission and it probably does and considering that it seems quite contagious then Im wondering how someone on this cruise could not get it especially when you consider how long they were packed like that At least on a subway its a short ride|1 now theyre trying to do everything they can to contain itNot everything by a longshot they continue to silence and disappear people|0 No but being infected means you are at great risk of dooming others to their graves|0 Please make sure to unsubscribe to those CCP subs Dont give them the numbers and or the visibility So many people have been banned in the past few days|1 There definitely should be punishment Including the estimated 1 million people that fled the city of Wuhan I understand that panic will force you to perform irrational acts but we need to hold each other accountable Panic does not justify fleeing your city because of a quarantine Youre being quarantined for a reason I personally feel like it should be a pretty severe punishment when you consider what they are potentially infecting or have already infected Your fear doesnt even remotely have as much value as the healthy humans you are putting at risk|0 I was under the impression they let WHO into China but NOT Wuhan|1 Stay safe my friend|1 This makes me want to buy a damn chain eallet when they reopen|0 httpswwwgooglecomampswwwpoliticocomampnews20200306coronavirustestingfailure123166The Chinese created the test They gave it to WHO The US declined multiple offers for it waiting for a US kit This is still catching up to us|1 Here in San Francisco a few people have asked that bars close up temporarily and their social media pages respond like weve taken your worries to heart but were going to completely ignore them|0 I bought real estate in 2008 Builders were defaulting on new construction jobs and the banks did NOT want to hold onto it Good prices Good profits later|1 They were late last Sunday as well roast dinner 1st |1 You forget all shops are closed and the landmark lighting is turned off at 10pm so no it does not look like the above at midnight|0 So they should they tried to make this a partisan issue when it wasnt so score some points and now its blown up in their faces the virus doesnt give a toss what your political background is your race anything it can and will attack anyone it can president a few weeks ago told people to go to work as normal now some people dont have a job to go to|0 Itll always be coronavirus to me Covid sounds stupid|0 Yeah And make sure to Charge your Crystals next full moon itll protect your aura and boost your immune system|1 But China is great and they should be commended for their work|1 Hello maybe in light of the current situation this event could be postponed Please keep your elderly and sick safe we have to all work together to keep them safe This is great event and we all will be happy to support when we know bit more about situation and how much will it al affect us in the UKThank you all for your input And kinda words of course A bit of background I have a degree in food science This is my chosen career path too I risk asses all day long My responsibility is to ensure the food you have on your table wont kill you So I am aware I might be overreacting a bit Thank you guys will take your words and retire my self from facebook for now|1 After you have removed the mask put the oven at a high temperature for 20 minutes or so There is no way theres any active virus leftAlso make sure to turn of any aircirculation of the oven|1 And people attacking each other over shopping supplies Well I just call them tards |0 I truly feel like I am the only person around me taking this seriously Sacramento CA area Ive always had an earthquake kit was living in Santa CruzLoma Prieta in 89 but started stocking up on med suppliesN99 masks and cleaning products back in Jan And I feel like they are all looking at me like Im an idiot I DO hope it just passes by and I can just laugh about it a month from now ps The room and travel UV lights I bought were the best thing I ever did|1 Please come join our community Take the time to read the stories in the main discussion and it will help you out We are all experiencing this together You arent alone Stray strong|1 Missing smokers|0 I crashed their HEB Go checkout by having 6 hand sanitizers in my cart just the small desk ones They tried transferring the order to another checkout and it crashed that so they had to rering everything It was a pain because I made the exact same purchase two months ago I keep hand sanitizer at my desk at workI did get some of the lsyol wipes it was a good sale Like 150 off per container|1 You might feel the urge to spend it all at once That might not be wise You might need to save some It will be a long time until there is more|1 Some people buying TP have been small businesscorner store owners who purchase it to upsell it at their stores They usually do it with pop but this is an opportunity for them to do other with TP|1 Yea dont discount the flu running rampant through those hospitals Youve got thousands of people in close proximity coughing on each other The doctors are exhausted and short on PPE Perfect breeding ground for good old fashioned influenza|1 Wait for markets to close hoping traders feel less panicky about it in the morning|1 This is black bear country no grizzlies so it probably isnt that necessary ever here everyone says but it helps me sleep at night so is worth it to me|1 wow that is crazy|1 Not necessarily strange Viral load its called Could be particularly important due to this being a new virus that we dont have much inbuilt immunity for Maybe the body can fight off a small amount but just gets overwhelmed by higher exposure|1 Its a lot cheaper to lock down about everyone emergency services aside for a month then test a bunch afterwards Social distancing with preparation beforehand social distancing after Three months totalWere still assuming recovered people cant get sick again Or that there arent long term complications from being infectedYeah total eradication is highly difficult thus the need to treat this like a world war|0 Thanks for answering its actual helpful to see peoples mindsets because a lot of us have similar ones if its your money spent and plans made and a ridiculous no refund policy then you would likely have gone as well rolling the dice I appreciate your response because its hard when people are obviously judging you for your decision Those in fact responsible for you being stuck there right now are the cruise line for not allowing perfectly reasonable refunds for services not rendered and our own government for allowing cruises and things to go on knowing full and well what is happening Their greed is why you are stuck and anyone who judges you is throwing stones while living in glass houses|0 Amazon workers are sick|0 Well thats not trueBlairs popularity was well above what Boris is sitting on now|1 Yeah They get to choose what they consume you know|1 Very cool|1 A troll asking not to be trolled on a perfectly legit question Clown2 spotted|1 Nope Just a simple limit per customer Like most businesses do|1 Good point|1 I know this feels good but just nope Im pretty sure medical research at the private and public level have decent computing power|0 CDC is a bottleneck Maybe they should have a role if improved but more in RD and putting out plans not in approving when tests can be made or distributing test kitsTest kits could be 510 and I could order it from home and have it delivered to my front door with Amazon or USPS just as I can do with many other medical supplies Its very profitable too when 50 million test kits are purchasedSound crazy I can have other health testssupplies delivered to me But I cant with the Covid19 test kit as far as I know I have to go to a hospital which risks infecting other people and go through a very expensive process and then may not even get the test still Whats unbelievably stupid My idea or the way CDC does it It needs to be more decentralized also with a local supply chain not waiting for CommandandControl center in Washington DC Infectious diseaseepidemic health control has always been government runNo plenty of private doctors hospitals and organizations fought infectious disease throughout history For example Private fraternal organizations were instrumental in providing aid in past flu epidemics Private companies developed the vaccines and medicines|0 I know you want the sub to get big and all However I think you should stickie or whatever direction to rwuhanflu I cant recall under 100 thousand are subscribed I think around 67000 or so If you want the halo of Public Service you have to direct people to the larger forum|1 Nobody here seems to care about that point I made it yesterday Bottom line there are not enough masks for all the health care workers plus all the panic buyinghoarding people at the moment Thus prioritizing health care workers is still best to slow the spread and keep people on the front lines fighting this safe|1 They are trying to introduce measures to keep the overall mortality rate as low as possible and not overload the NHSs critical care capacity No one wants a lot of people to die Unfortunately this is now a global pandemic all we can do is try and mitigate the fallout and control the spread as best we can|0 Yea I agree but given the current administrations track record are you surprised|1 Thats a fair question but the most likely reason is just their aggressive quarantining is working|0 Im not sure its that black or white|0 When around 33 people get infected outside China we should expect 1 death if 3 is true Well find out soon|0 Do you need it 3x as bad now You have to factor in compound interest|0 Normally no but these people are running a marathon and its known to wear down people making them temporarily weaker but only temporarily so it wouldnt affect them long term What they should be afraid of is being more susceptible to the virus in that time frame along with their density considering the virus R0|0 Yeah China sends you to government quarantine immediately if you have a fever They are testing more and checking temperatures outside of offices and apartment buildings|1 httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgat14morethan1000recoveredpatientshavenowIts an effective treatment for COVID19|1 Let us know please|1 Better to consider ratios|1 If you stopped reading only propaganda media outlets you would see|0 Dont forget Corona21 will visit you next year and for every year from now onMerry Xmas from China |1 A lot of the Chinese students still cant get into Australia due to the travel ban Im Australian too|0 Theres also no information on dosage or frequency of use in here and some of these substances like Iron are really easy to overdose on and should only be taken under the guidance and monitoring of a physicianMany multivitamins contain just way too much of various substances and some people will try to megadose themselves on these thinking that more is better Thats just asking for trouble Please consult a physician before taking any of these|1 I agree Let me rephrase that to deliberate political obfuscation and mishandling|1 Yeah and I would hope that people would have a good idea what their target audience is on Facebook considering our posts generally go out to people we know|1 But Our president said if you want to be tested you will be tested|1 Never forget more than half the country did not want him|1 Quite easy to translate it And nope that looks fine Wasnt saying you and the others claiming it was an old Chinese tourist were wrong btw its just obnoxious behavior to say Im French when someone asks you for proof of a statement contradicting a reliable source and then be an asshole about it when people press you on it|0 More likely Eco will tank with recession and ppl will be laid off|0 Thanks for the advice I was going to try to start working out today too|1 Are they allowed to accept masks handled by member of public Im pretty sure this would be tricky to do|1 Wow thats a lot|1 I honestly think we are about to watch the fall of the US They are making too many vital mistakes|1 Im so confused why running what is typical PCR is so complicated and slow|0 Parent company of Jack Daniels is doing it Pretty cool stuff|1 Yeah Protestant Christianitybased cult|1 Are they witches or magicians Because they need magic hands if they can heal the sick with them|0 I installed it but it doesnt offer support for Covid19 specifically I want my computer folding for this disease specifically because I feel it is currently the greatest threat How do I ensure that|1 What evidence do we have that the most critical cases arent actually getting to the hospitals|0 how the fuck did humans survive this long without vaccines|0 Because the industry creates a lot of jobs in Florida they spends millions of dollars on lobbying every year and our government is corrupt|1 My roommate has diabetes He doesnt care at all about this thinks hell be fine cause he is youngWe also live in a city that has multiple confirmed cases|0 If it makes you feel any better its unlikely you guys had the first case just the first IDd case since the person just happened to get their sample run by the gates foundation If the CDC were testing more broadly like they should be they probably would have found it somewhere else first|1 I would love to work from home Whatndonyou do|1 Or because everybody will have it already lol|1 Love from the uk here sorry about your governmentEdit Thats rude all our governments seem to be bad They will do what they can to divide us but we are all brothers and sisters trying to be happy|1 I work for a massive ag and auotomotive technology company Even we have the majority of our castings done in China Even big companies like mine are going to feel this|1 Thats how it has spread in every country First death means its been circulating in the nearby population for weeks Its so highly contagious that 100s are already infected but have no symptoms 1 a week later 100 a week after that 1000 a week after that 10000 Conservative estimate say 10 die instead of 20 Its just like the flu rolling eyes|0 Lol yeah right You see people worshiping Beyonc theyd literally cut an arm for her but all she does is flaunt her wealth and not say a word when she could actually helpBut thats not only Beyonc ofc most celebrities who are being worshiped left and right for no fucking reasonTheyre just chillin in their super expensive houses while the worshippers have to go to work and risk their lives Wish that was an exaggeration|1 They are going to die arent they|0 Yep Some of the stuff posted from Asia in rvegantravel is amazing|1 Joe Biden has been incompetent for years His punishment Leading in the Democratic Primary|0 Well there was a news report I tried posting on here today but it was through Facebook from some credible news source about a doctor in New York who is perfectly healthy no underlying conditions doesnt smoke doesnt drink and hes in critical condition in the hospital with one lung done with completely filled with fluid and hes on an intabater And said in the hospital he doesnt know how much time he has left So hes not dead but that just blows the theory out of the water that healthy people are safe from this|1 El Salvador banned all travelers regardless of origin Thats the opposite of racist|0 Agree When then official confirmed cases were 300ish I did the math based on the first evacuation flight to Japan and reasoned the infected should be 714 thousands Its hard to be accurate but we can kind of figure out the scale of things that matches not the official number but the level of official responses to quarantine 50m or stopping all flights for example|0 Yeah I know but look at the pic the original WHO advice said traditional herbal remedies are not effective and may be dangerous so like I said since when is bat a herb |1 Considering for everywhere else its more like 02 you have to think theres another reason for this|1 Then again the difference between 8090 and 100 is pretty small and focusing on But it didnt hit Exactly 100 doesnt make any sense|1 I personally know people who are denied testing as they have not traveled or had known contact with a COVID19 case which is ridiculous was are barely testing Government is all about topdown self preservation keep those numbers down at all costs|0 Well our experience from the Soviet Union shows that forcing people to work ends up with bread linesSo yes this is the only proven way to incentivise people to send in more suppliesSure you can try rationing to make sure as many people as possible get supplies but you will still end up with shortages most of the time and trying to fight people doing their best to hoard supplies takes a lot of resources by itselfPrice gauging seems like the more moral solution IMO|1 thank you for giving the original source for this information|1 TIL I dont get flu I get cold chills fever I dont want to get flu which can be treated I dont want to get covid19 which cant be treated Im going to sit at home|1 Only this time it is the whole countrys leader want to cover it up while some states governor and counties try to report it and stop the spreading|0 For people with ARDS which is the severe life threatening complication of COVID19 there can be permanent damage after even 5 days of ventilatory therapy|0 Came her to say exactly this Its quite transparent that this was his intention in this matter He wanted to make an address and declare that the United States had developed a tremendous vaccine Its a beautiful vaccine that we will now share with the world Tremendous|1 Literally they are fucking brainwashed or something lol|1 I find its a mixed bag Either people are awaiting the apocalypse or they dont care We need a cull seems to be the general response We are so used to dramatic news all the time But the fact is right now its so hard to ascertain the real situation and its effects We all know this will be near unstoppable No matter what measures are taken So I would imagine the best political response is being worked on as much as the real response|0 For what They are not violating the law|1 That sounds pretty scary to me that truck drivers who are so essential to keeping supplies flowing may be required to drive longer and therefore risk their lives from driving while exhausted I hadnt thought much before about how vital truck drivers are to our supply chain I shouldnt have taken them for granted I want them to be safe|1 He was positive then what|1 How about Russia they have like two cases I wonder if jiffy pop is flying off the shelves in Moscow|1 It means you pretty much need a respirator until you can get a lung transplant from my understanding|1 I indicated that in the Provinces the health care is much lower quality and perhaps I didnt say that right In Manila and Cebu the healthcare is excellent on par with the US and Thailand They basically follow the USA education system for doctors and nurses I am in a medium size college town here and use a pretty good American hospital but it is not to US standards but I can always go to Cebu or Manila for heart bypass etc Thailand has 82 cases out of a population of 70000000 so infection rate seems to be similar The problem here is not so much the quality of care in normal times if cases did increase exponentially there are far fewer hospitals here so quality would be greatly reduced due to triage I dont know much about Thailands hospital capacity in their countryside but I suspect they have a lot more than here in our provinces|1 THEN GIVE US TESTS YOU USELESS FUCKING MORONS My god Ive been frustrated since these smoothbrains got into office but this has got me absolutely fuming So many people are going to die or have their livelihoods destroyed because these absolute fuckwits cant follow the lead of the asian countries that are kicking this things ass|0 I dont care if the newspaper boy delivered the news or it came by carrier pigeon the fact remains his physician is monitoring him and apparently has not tested That is malpractice knowing that Trump came into contact with someone who was confirmed to have been in contact with an infected person and not testing Sad|0 This is absolutely heartbreaking|0 add 30 days more for good measure|1 Honestly you could probably get your job back if you asked them kindly if they needed help after this blows over|1 Well world war 2 didnt have internet Hell most pple wouldnt even know it started until halfway through the war|0 I dont own a gun but already agreed with wife we will buy a few at first untraceable infection confirmation in USA so within the next few weeks probably|1 Correction youre the only one in the conversationIm talking about USCuomoTrump Im not interested in muddying the waters of our conversation so you can feel good about the President|1 Remember when people were complaining about China UNDERREPORTING Lol the USA is taking it to a whole other level of neglect|0 Gross|0 Shoutouts to reacting like a decent human being|1 Will they be cheering extra hard as truck after truck proceeds down the street bringing bodies to the crematoriums|1 To avoid taxes theyre probably registered as a foreign company|0 Honolulu generally bottoms out at 76 year round generally runs 8090 humidity during the day We had at least one case here a few weeks ago Japanese man but so far no known communityspread cases|0 They are still doing it It is allowed to go back to your domicile So yep we still have trains packed full of morons potentially taking the virus with them and the south of Italy is not as advanced as the north especially healthcare wise And although most of us are complying many people incredibly many old ones are still finding any possible excuse to go outside This lockdown is nowhere close to perfection I guess things will get uglier for a while|0 Damn shits real|0 This is indeed the case with this test as is stated herehttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200313nationalkurabocoronavirustestkitsThe red line indicates the presence of antibodies for the virus in the blood and a positive test result the company saidso that test is not nearly as useful as the PCR test for the reasons you have described|1 Im an economist with a masters degree The costs of allowing this virus to spread freely and overload the medical system would be far higher than the costs of travel ban|0 First few sentences yes well to be more accurate I laughed incredulously at them feeling the need to tell old people not to go on cruises Otherwise no This seems a rational proportionate response which is aimed to mean that the hospital resources needed to save that percentage of people who will need ICU intervention to survive this are more likely to be availableBearing in mind I have an array of long term heart conditions It gives me more confidence that if I get it and I do get seriously ill the machines and staff are more likely to be available|1 Hello Batgirl289 most people are unaware and could care less that a fungus propagated by human stupidity has been and is devastating bat populations thought out the US Turn about is fair play|0 Im in Texas and I can tell you i never really hear much about it and last person I talked to about the Coronavirus just said it was a media sensationalised flu The Rodeo in Houston is going to happen soon so im curious how thats going to handled but im guessing no protective measures will be put in place and more infections will come|0 But it is something Donald Trump and his goons would do and hes president so its ok now|1 How can you say thats false Of the nearly 30000 confirmed cases the majority are Chinese people in China Excuse me for being pissed about this whole situation but theyre doing something wrong over there SARS nCoV Whats gonna come out of China next Probably nukes|0 hehe Im in danger|0 I was looking at a picture of my wife and I at a basketball game about a month ago Ah yes the before times|1 Jerk|0 Very good press conference by someone who is actually public health and safety ahead of political ambition|1 Ive already seen people using this chart to prove that its not a big deal Most critical thinkers wouldnt arrive at that conclusion but most people arent critical thinkers|0 You will relish and appreciate it when you can again Probably through your whole life you will always appreciate the fun times just a little more than normal|1 dont want to piss on your flame but the gov released one a few days ago herehttpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlf94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14|1 We created a bigger terror is this something we should celebrate Because like theyre both really shite|1 I know right They were accused of withholding tons of donated resources from hospitals and resell it to citizens I remembered one of the donors even managed to purchase his stuff back and found his own thank you letter|1 What im asking myself was the CEO the one with the usonly strategy or is this the strategy the USAdministration is pursingThe first one is well sad but the second one is deeply troubling|0 Sounds like the cost of 12 burritos to me|1 Adequate treatment The treatment for corona virus is the same as any other viral pneumonia Your healthy and get it Shitty 12 weeks for you Elderly or immunocompromised Hope you got life insurance|1 In Pakistan they grudge and work hard to have at least two cases tomorrow|0 She could be claustrophobic the box is too small and dark Im guessing theyre short on ambulances so they created these monstrosities|1 So lets do the math with some more conservative estimates that assume controls are in place and followed consistentlyIf 25 of the world population contracts it and it only has a 05 fatality rate thats 19 billion infected 95 million deadAt 07 fatality rate thats 133 million deadIf we have a 05 fatality rate and 50 of the world gets it 378 billion infected 189 millionIf the fatality rate is in fact 3 then if only 25 of the world gets it 19 billion infected 57 million deadIf 50 get it 378 billion infected 1134 million deadBy comparison the Spanish Flu infected approximately 500 million and killed approximately 50 millionKeep in mind we have far more advanced medical capabilities now than 100 years ago so the idea that we can still reach those numbers is mind boggling and shows the power of this virus and its ability to overwhelm the healthcare systemTLDR We reach Spanish Flu death numbers with only 25 of the world getting it and a 3 fatality rate which is the current stable death rate|0 Sorry to hear that I had pneumonia 3 years ago and I had to be intubated for 8 hours I made a full recovery and now I do boxing So its not always something that turns into a long term issue|0 Stocking yes but not hoarding Which is going to be hard because people dont know what to expect in terms of how long they will have to be confined if it comes to thatTo be honest the Chinese way seems to work quite well of having allocations for one family member every few days to purchase groceries|1 TG When he annnounced Wednesday night about the European travel ban trade ban cargo ban oh no just travel with Europe but not the UK WTH I think someone is putting a lot more than cauliflower in his mashed potatoes Europe didnt know we screwed them with no courtesy of just a heads up of what he was going to do He then screwed them with the logistics of getting everyone out then spent the next two days blaming them for the virus in the US It is literally head shaking And you are exactly right with the students studying abroad in my neighborhood alone 3 kids came back today that had spent months in Italy Spain London and France strolled right in And we clearly knew at this point you could be asymptomatic So we just brought tons of kids home canceled travel to Europe yet for weeks before this ban we werent even checking passengers coming off flights from Rome for any symptoms When he finally decided to acknowledge there may be something concerning all Ive heard is he stopped flights from China on 115 ok then Apparently such a strong move because it was so concerning but Ill circle back to it in a few months We are at the point that kids cannot go to school Its frightening to see how unilaterally he can make decisions on such important issues He had no responsibility in making sure the CDC got it together He tweets because he gets pissed at SNL skits but this was cool And where were you Democrats I got so sick of Pelosi and all the impeachment stuff But when you can really attack for something so huge where were they Seems they went after him after our air strikes but I cannot figure any of this out I was happy we did retaliate but the rest I do not getThe effects on the economy will be so far reaching These poor people that did it all right for years worked 401k IRA ready to retire and live the dream Crushed What do they even do I have time hopefully to get mine back but they may not And do you have to find a job a 65 because of the insanity and uncertainty we allowed to happen Agree with the epic proportions we are going to see But I do think think the confirmed cases we see next week have been here for quite awhile well except for the thousands of students studying in Europe that we forced home yesterday God and everyone else up there help us The one treat we do have is you have absolutely no idea at all what you are going to see on the news hourly|0 considering how US medical data is secret journalists got no access for example and how decentralized medical system is private hospitals with multiple different payers who competeI think its going to take a while to notice such a jump if it happens|0 If you could take that ratio as your estimate for mortality youll end up overestimating a lot at this moment The numbers as of yesterday are 276 recovered 107 dead That would give a shocking 39 However it is obvious that this is heavily distorted because of the simple fact that it takes a while for patients to be declared fully recoveredI would argue that the ratio of critical cases to the number of active cases gives at least an upper boundary to the mortality Just looking at Italy again that would give 2952706 or 11 In my opinion this is a major overestimation as well because of the huge bias in the selection of active cases only people with more or less severe symptoms are being picked upWHO estimates it at 34 and that sounds a lot more likely|0 true dat indeedMANS NOT HOT|1 They also said the asymptomatic phase is 12 days and its a small portion of all cases Objectively not true on both counts|0 Thank you|1 My point was that iFraud21 was saying China was already over it and that martial law in this country was a crazy thought in the face of this By using China as an example of success the implication was that we could learn from them But they relied on martial law The comment was nonsensicalFWIW its not like Im in favor of martial law or think it would work here Im not and I dont Im just trying to point out the inconsistencies in iFraud21s logic We should be looking at countries that managed this well without ignoring human rights One better example would be South Korea|1 PLEASE RIGHT NOW|1 Talking purely figures while testing is up results might not come back for a couple of days so I think well not see a big increase for a couple of days|1 Wow|1 No shit But it proves that this stupid talking point of masks not fitted correctly are useless is incorrect|0 Thank you|1 This is sounding too good now|1 Again said nothing specifically about multiple organ failure Im sure that can be assumed but neither of these articles explicitent stated this|0 Absolutely but its not going to be accelerated as much as one might expectMost people who go to TwitchcomhttpsTwitchcom usually go to see if one of their favorite streamers are streaming If not they usually switch over to another video streaming platform typically YouTubeIMO most of time you discover a new streamer its either from a streamer you already watch hosting them after their stream ends or a stream you already watch is playing with someone and you find them entertaining Or theyre a pro player that you know and you check them outSpeaking from personal experience but also observing the habits of my friends family who also regularly watch Twitch|1 Im not sure if this will help your anxiety but a bit of perspectiveUK population 65000000Confirmed cases 1950 so only 1 in 33000 people have a confirmed caseHigh estimate of suspected cases 50000 so 1 in 1300 people might have it and they should be selfisolating not shoppingUnless youre in a particularly virulent area and serving more than 1300 people in a day youre unlikely to meet even someone carrying the virusI dont know how many customers you serve each day will cough or sneeze on you maybe 1 in 10 or 1 in 100 but if you avoid putting your fingers in your mouth and licking peoples hands you should be fine|0 My true hope is that because it looks like the recovered heavily outweighs the death toll iiiiif people are reporting accurately which is a distinct probably not this will be a recurring theme we see as it spreads throughout the countries over time Im probably being overly optimistic|1 I was just wondering about him today and am so happy to see this|1 Its definitely worse Plus we dont have the ability to lockdown cities like China does without risking massive unrest|1 Im going to be bringing this up with some people tomorrow guys This isnt okay|0 This guy thinks like me|1 Are you speculating that other outbreaks like the one in Italy will happen|1 UPDATE From my sisterI talked to Florida Health Dept this morning I told them I needed to know if my hospital administration was canceling test and putting us in danger or if there really was a lack of tests She said right now Florida state health department is only providing test to highrisk counties I have her my hospital zip code and I told her we are seeing an uptick of respiratory heart kidney and liver issues in the ICU and that our tests keep getting cancelled She said we should have more availability in a few days|0 Interestingly theyre always opposed to anything that increases voter participation Huh I wonder why|1 Oh ok I am relieved to hear you dont think it will do anything also good on ya for doing what is good for you personally That is important and I wasnt considering stuff like that in my initial comment|1 What a selfish ashole|0 Honestly Taiwan has gotten bullied out of international institutions They represent how to respond to bullies ignore them where possible deflect and parry blows elsewhere work on making yourself stronger and show how you are doing so much better and laugh And dont be gracious and vindictive and take satisfaction that you are doing the right thing and keep on doing it so you dont need to take the draconian actions on literally everyone Also not being an authoritarian regime that censors everyone helps too|1 Dish soap and warm water Seriously Ive been doing this for years with water proof phones and never had an issue Do NOT try this if your phone has major damage or cracked glass The water will penetrate there|0 Its the greatest healthcare system in the world Or so I hear Its hard to say since its so expensive I barely use it|1 Crazy asshole|0 Throat swabs in germany showed that the most live virus is found pre symptoms If it persists for 5 weeks Hopefully this is in less infectious form|1 So Im ignorant here but literally anything else has also been around longer to generate more results through searching related to Reddit whereas this has only been around a couple of months Couldnt that just blatantly be a factor I dont know how the algorithms work but theres a much significantly larger amount of kittens on Reddit than Coronavirus|0 Just sad its not our government but better than nothing|1 No one will be getting clinical trial drugs or compassionate use of remdesevir without testing positive|0 That will be a shit show|0 This either seems heartfelt post aimed to discourage others from panic or a false flag fake narrative spew to calm and invoke personal embarrassment to those concerned Whatever the case you cant change the facts of the facts|0 In Italy people is falling from clouds they had no idea what was going on in the world and in Italy as well they are still joking and saying its just the flu they think it cant spread in the major cities and so on they are totally blind|0 But they also said R0 today is between 2 and 3 Why do you find it deeply troubling that initial R0 was higher Alone public awareness today plays great role|1 WHO cares what China says|1 He has been symptomatic Sick for multiple days|0 Who needs solidarity When you can have toilet paper|1 For right now the media is freaking out about so far not a huge epidemic Tens of thousands of people have recovered from the coronavirus and yet most people dont know this because of the media Even the few deaths Weve seen are older younger or have a bad immune system Im not saying it cant become something worse but as of now its a huge overreaction|0 Gratz on the COVID19|1 You sound like a good guy hope you get healthy soon|1 The motive is avoiding domestic chaos so the ccp can retain control of the situation|0 Italy has hospitals letting people over 60 die because they lack ventilators Severe symptoms will equal death once hospitals are overloaded The rate of US testing is a joke and theyll have the worst outbreak including China just wait and seeAlso that 9995 stat is blatantly false Get a source next time|0 Im not sure I live on the other side of the country|0 Are they selling empty staplers|0 Blocking foreigners is what he does best so he is oh so happy that a pandemia that has barely touched the US gives him this excuse And you too|1 My sister JUST called me and told me her friend who works admin for the city of Toronto told her the city is going on lockdown tomorrow I told her about this rumor and how they really could be just that but be prepared anyway They SHOULD do this|1 Yep and every idiot thinks they have the experts on their side when its really them and their friends bullshitting on a topic they know nothing about|1 Because we might erode trust in the media Lame argument|0 This is something Im beginning to think that might take more than an individual countries response The WHO is a joke The WHO has had its budget cut and is supposed to act mostly in an advisory capacity Frankly when all this is over I think well be getting much more robust public health infrastructure on the local national and international level Thats the way it generally works|1 Legally can a province lockdown a city or close border with other provincesIs the federal government need to declare an emergency to do soI checked the Public Health Law for Quebec and it doesnt include any provision for travel restriction or area lockdown only provision for forced isolation of confirmed or suspected cases of a contagious diseaseI think that there are some very broad powers for quarantine and emergency measures but on the federal level|0 My roommate literally didnt know about the coronavirus I straight up told him Dude you need to read the news more Obviously he doesnt read the news AT ALL Not my fault that he didnt prepare himself for all of this|1 Absolutely insane 20 day incubation period means one person sick renders practically the entire workplace sick|0 from the emcritorghttpsemcritorg link I posted above in regards to Vit C specifically Ascorbic acid did appear to improve mortality in the multicenter CITRISALI trialhttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamaarticleabstract2752063 However interpretation of this trial remains hopelessly contentious due to nearly unsolvable issues with survivalship bias discussed herehttpsemcritorgpulmcritpulmcritcitrisalicanasecondaryendpointstageacoupdetat Extremely limited evidence suggests that ascorbic acid could be beneficial in animal models of coronavirus Atherton 1978httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed205194 Administration of a moderate dose of IV vitamin C could be considered eg 15 grams IV q6 ascorbic acid plus 200 mg thiamine IV q12 This dose seems to be safe However there is no highquality evidence to support ascorbic acid in viral pneumoniaFrom my own personal very limited point of view I think sometimes people say Vitamin C increases your immunity when what it actually does is increase your inflammatory response Not what you need if you have ARDS|1 I mean if some Chinese airports have started doing 15minute Covid19 tests on everyone who steps off the airplane theres no reason Japan cant have something like that in place by July A competent prime minister could get it done Not sure about Abe|0 Clearly most people here have little or no experience about product manufacture and regulatory standards let alone medical device safety Good intended though|1 Google Spanish flu|0 Because Trump wants to make sure that if we keep the confirmed cases down then he can say that everything is fine|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 If I were to apply that to my household just gf and I it would rarely go above 5 Today was a 2 Seeing how this virus is spreading makes me almost glad to be unemployed and basically a hermit Tomorrow my number will be over 200 because of a doctors appointment at a VA hospital |1 Its not confirmed According to here httpsglobalnewscanews6462626coronavirustorontohospitalhttpsglobalnewscanews6462626coronavirustorontohospital its only a suspected caseGlobal News has learned Ontario health officials are expected to announce that a presumptive case of coronavirushttpsglobalnewscatagcoronavirus has been confirmed at Torontos Sunnybrook hospital Samples are reportedly being sent to a lab in Winnipeg for confirmation Officials are expected to speak to the media from Queens Park at 530 pmLets wait 1020 more minutes before speculating furtherEDIT The press meeting should start soon its 533 now The above link has a livestream Just click continue with ad blocking if you use one and it shows up Ill update this with more concrete information once it happensEDIT 2 Still Live Case is a man in 50s who travelled to Wuhan and came back feeling quite ill one day after returning Admitted to Toronto Sunnybrook Hospital Currently in isolation ward Stable condition Ontario lab test has come back presumptive positiveEDIT 3 Transcribed most important points here httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsetxxdshealthofficialstoannouncepresumptivecaseofhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsetxxdshealthofficialstoannouncepresumptivecaseofEDIT 4 Crosspost of what I wrote in another comment in the above linked thread Since livestream is now over Ill post a copy hereLivestream is over see the article for updates soon I suppose Sunnybrook press release linked below has vague details for some reason All is this is directly from the livestream A link to the recording is here httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvPxMtjn4A38httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvPxMtjn4A38 Case is a man in his 50s Recently travelled to Wuhan became quite ill one day after returning arrived Jan 22 Family called 911 to take him to hospital Did not arrive via direct flight no such flights exists between Toronto and Wuhan Details still forecoming but health official has said during questions that the flight path is Wuhan Guangzhou Toronto Admitted to Toronto Sunnybrook Hospital on Jan 23 In isolation ward Currently in stable condition Lab results from Ontario have come back presumptive positive Update Chief Medical Officer Dr David Williams has said 95 sure that it is positive Update 2 Winnipeg lab does a slightly different test to confirm but officials are sure that it is positive Health officials say all containment and health safety procedures have been followed Risk to Ontarians remains low Public health is reviewing individual and his whereabouts Family is now in isolation Says did he not spend much time in the city and stayed mostly at home Investigation on details still ongoing including complete flight and patient history Still ascertaining if patient was infectious during flight Will be identifying and tracking individuals on flight especially those within 3 rows of patient on flight Still preliminary information not enough to share All systems of public health working in tandem to deal with this case as we speak Annoucement of website to track Wuhan virus cases and safety instructions ontariocacoronavirushttpsontariocacoronavirusUpdate Dr Jerome Leis Sunnybrooks Medical Director of Infection Prevention and Control has said patient was identified immediately as a suspicious case Travel history immediately collected Approriate precautions followed on arrival includes proper use of protective equipment and immediate admission to isolation ward with negative air pressure Direct transport from home to hospital Paramedics followed full precautionsStill in early hours of having learned of this situation Says he had limited exposure but want to make sure of thatUpdate 2 Sunnybrook Director says there are signs of improvement in patient today but still too early to tell if this means recovery or he will get worse Primary symptons of virus are cough and fever Patient currently has fairly mild symptoms Again stable conditionRelated press release from Toronto Sunnybrook httpssunnybrookcamediaitemaspc1i2043fnovelcoronavirus2020httpssunnybrookcamediaitemaspc1i2043fnovelcoronavirus2020|1 If everyone did that the companies wouldnt be able to survive for long though rightSo this is just the Area 51 idea but for a cause that will actually push the system towards Medicare for allId love to see a Hash tag trending like NoMoneyNoMedicalBills|1 I find it so bizzare The pasta is sold out but not the pasta sauce in my local Like Wut do people think theyre gunna eat with their pasta|1 You are confusing things Just because Trump said something it doesnt mean he believes it|0 Yo dawg I heard you like ziplocs|1 Why would I want to get tested if do not need medical care when others do x200BI am quite possibily infected with the virus I locked myself down for two weeks at home and thats the end of it Im not going to go out to help overburden the system just because Im curious|0 I got sick this morning with something Others around me also are getting sick and its concerning Im not sure what my issue is yet but I was one of the ones who was guarded early on practice good hand hygeine and am guarded around people because of an already preexisting condition Im watching a slow motion train wreck around me|1 I told friends and clients two weeks agoThey listened I work in healthcare and people know I do not get overwhelmed easily|1 I am so scared and horrified for us I dont know what to do but it feels like the people who die are nothing but numbers to Boris These are lives These are friends and family who will be missed And worse there are other things we could do so we could save them Its callous and evil|0 Seems more GRU too Wouldnt surprise me|0 Yeah I didnt mean were doing awesome I mean more that were all going to be looking at our countries feeling failures were made Were definitely looking lucky or data anomaly right now but theyre definitely testing|1 Which option available was more nationalistPersonally I sat out the election as I didnt believe in trump Different story in 2020Through kavanaugh burisma impeachment and Fridays historic mobilization of the American spirit my faith has been restored Feels great to have a god fearing strong leader once again in America|1 No honestly now every country manages to get the parents to take care of their childs but germany doesnt are we just too stupid or what is the real excuse behind itNarcissism and arrogance Everyone else is doing it wrong and besides anything that causes personal inconvenience should be avoided at all costs|0 My girlfriend and went for a hike yesterday near Lake placid I have to say it made me forget about all of this for a minute It felt really good especially knowing the gyms are now closed just to get out and breathe As long as folks are healthy and safe and dont gather up for it I highly recommend it|1 Trump cares about one thing and one thing only The EconomyNot your lifeNot the lives of your loved onesNothing But The Stock Market|1 Its not like theyre any use either in your socialist wonderland|0 Those are individual base pair mutations Not enough difference to be different strains|0 Oof I hope you feel better soon|1 Im not a virologist but Ive taken a virology class in university and I would say that this is extremely unlikely based on the genetic structure of the two virusesHerpes Simplex Virus HSV is a double stranded DNA virus In order to replicate the DNA of the virus gets physically integrated into the host cells genome Once this happens the DNA can get replicated and transmitted concurrently with the cells DNA it can also cause a variety of other issues if the integration breaks up an important cell gene this is why HSV viruses can become asymptomatic for long periods and then suddenly emerge much later on In order to spread the virus the viral DNA must be transcribed into messenger RNA by the host cells machinery then translated into proteins and properly assembledthen exit the cell to infect new cellsBy contrast Coronavirus is a single stranded positive sense RNA virus This means that the viral genome is already in the proper form to hijack the host cells protein translation infrastructure and directly replicate its proteinsgenome Because of this they do not need to integrate into the host cells genome like HSV does and as far as I can tell its unlikely that it has any retroviral converting its RNA genome into DNA like HIV capability|1 Pay some now or pay more later|0 Yes I totally feel what you are saying at the same time eating well and eating a lot is key right now to make sure your body is in optimum condition|1 This So much thisWorking in grocery sucks right now Stop making it worse The longer people panic the more they will buy and the bigger of a problem we will have There is plenty of food|0 This is precisely the type of Chinese propaganda it wanted to usethe communist party is the saviour of the world by providing free masks but the reality is none of the masks were come from China Hong Kong people buy the masks all over the world except China They are recently also using the same trick to Italy some Italian buy masks from China then China claim that it was Chinas generous donation and rcoronavirus delete message of Italian which state the truth|1 The very basis of civilization in the west is predicated upon the means to support oneself and loved ones The democratic financial system is at risk with the disruption of revenue and inadequate resources to withstand the disruption and meet obligations Perhaps the virus would not be as bad as the governments losing control of the banking systems I mean I like paying for things with fiat in lieu of gold or shiny rocks|1 Hol up now As much as I like getting mypitchfork out BoJo co gutting the NHS over the last decade or so are also 100 partially at fault here|0 Reid said she has requested that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDCprovide more rapid results for COVID19I think local officials are tryinglike the confirmed in Californiathey pressed for him to be tested last Wednesday And CDC didnt until Sunday Their guidelines of only people that have been to China or had contact with with someone from China is a federal protocol And yes it needs to changea month ago|1 When I was around your age I spent a couple months of a summer inside terrified to leave the house for fear of Ebola I barely ate barely slept I wouldnt see my friends I thought the world was ending and I couldnt shake the terror and dread buried deep in my gut Then a little time passed I slowly opened up and started doing things again and that quickly faded to a distant memoryNow Im almost 40 and with all the twists and turns life has taken Id forgotten all about itThis is an unsettling situation and there are going to be changes Some bad some good in ways thatll surprise us Its not the end of the world thoughJust ask your parents to prepare nonperishables entertainment stuffthings youll need to have if you either have to or decide to stay home for a while Just as important for your wellbeing find a hobby you can sink yourself into For me it was guitarThis virus is something to be concerned about but thats because we all know people who are 60 or who have underlying health conditions and we want them to be ok The rest of us arent at a high risk of anything serious but it is important for us to keep ourselves from picking it up so we dont pass it to those who are more vulnerable Im working from home and have pulled my young daughter out of school for this reason Even so you should know that even those high risk groups have a relatively low risk of anything serious The concerning thing with this is that there are a lot of people in those at risk groups So do your part to protect those people by making good choices for yourself during this time washing your hands well and dont touch tour face when you go out maybe substituting smaller more intimate social things or even introvert things like video games or playing an instrument for larger gatherings for a whileThat said youre not alone Were all in this together This isnt forever either Just find ways to grow through this that you wouldnt have if everything was going along as normal Future you might actually value and appreciate this time as strange as that sounds now|1 That is laughably ridiculous No nothing like that is happening at all If youre infected you get sent to the hospital they will then try and work out who else you might have infected and alert them|0 Are they up compared to other months comparing Jan to June which would be irrelevant as those other months arent flu season or do you mean theyre up relative to those same months compare Jan 2018 to Jan 2019 to Jan 2020 in other years That would be possibly relevant|1 I had someone insist that the CDC is the government and all governments are incompetent Then went on to compare it to the government of another country which was doing well in testing people|0 Problem is many clinics are advising patients with mild symptoms to not seek care and to remain at home No physician evaluation no orders to have a patient tested Source am a family physician and thats our policy have conferred with other groups and thats also their policy|0 No airline company has the lidquidity to finance 2 months with 0 revenue and all the costsAirlines are all very low in profit apart from ryan air They are not Boenig and they are not banks They are not the bad ones|1 Its not about the Pope dying Its about if the Pope with access to the best medical care available dies of the virus It would be a signal that in some cases there is nothing you could do That its out of your hands|1 If thats the case he missed the few key words because now it reads quite differently|0 Sure but these days you can also get the basics shipped to your house no crowds necessary I stocked up on dried goods and pasta because its pretty much dirt cheap and I was a little worried about an initial surge in panic buying like when the grocery store runs out of bread and milk because a snowflake hits the groundIts a bigger picture of things though I dont expect it to be anywhere near bad enough that youre going to see like agricultural food output shortages for the Staples Maybe youll have like fresh vegetable shortages or something but I dont think youre going to run out of beans and wheat anytime soon in America|0 There are instructions on reuseable PPE Its not ideal no but A google search will turn up quite a bit Dilute bleach quaternary aluminum solution there are many ways to kill pathogens|0 Here is the US we use it an opportunity for the rich to get some steals on rental properties Hell after you have gone bankrupt paying for your hospital stay you wont be able to pay for that house because you lost your job|0 I agree that its illegal but I dont understand the logic selling at a low price and then stop selling during an emergency legal always selling at a high price including during an emergency legal not selling then start selling at a high price when theres an emergency legal selling at a low price and then raising prices during an emergency illegalSo part of the crime is that you were in business before and your prices used to be low That doesnt make any senseBy limiting the amount per person do you mean store policies plus social enforcement telling the person in line not to buy so much toilet paper Id be okay with that Or government enforcement That often goes a lot less wellYes its true that the business makes more revenue but the costs of bending over backwards to make a large delivery may still not be worth it If theres a higher price per item on top of that it ends up being a big pile of money Some businesses will stay up all night coming up with whatever creative solution they can to get the product out there Which is what we want No shortages no black markets no quotas Higher prices yes but at least these essential items will actually be in stock Out of stock is always worse than a high price|0 To answer your question I think its important to know what kind of person you want to be In these occasions I tend to ask myself why a person would act like this what causes a person to go out of there way to negatively react on something they may know less about The answer tends to stem from the negative emotional traits fear jealousy resentment etc Making alot of assumptions it looks like youve already answered that question Youve a middle aged man who is not able to get access to information as easily and as is human nature fears what isnt known and buries their head in the ground Now that that doesnt work is reaching out for help Now it defines you as the person you are rather than the person you want to beBut Im an Ahole so Id punch him in the facejokes P|0 Whats worrying is by the time alot of people are tested positive it may be too late I expect to see a sharp increase in coronavirus related deaths|1 But also in BC CanadahttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf80ifjwarningletterwassenthomewithmygirlfriends a school is telling parents they dont recommend testing their kids for COVID19 despite them being potentially exposed to an infected individual Dont understand what Canada is doing|0 Save that money on Reddit plus and treat yourself to going out to eat|1 My plan is to die doing something cool before I get elderly|0 Washing hands wont help as people touch their filthy phone every 37seconds|0 Given how people sneeze and cough with mouths open like they are infants I have little hope on that front|1 In the congressional hearing it became very obvious the CDC is where we need to place the blame Senator Burr said 150 million dedicated funding given to CDC should have been used for surveillance but was possibly reappropriated to build a CDC campusSurveillance is testing for unknown virus which they did not have the for because they used the 150 million for other reasons|1 The night of the fight you may feel a slight sting Thats pride fucking with you Fuck pride Pride only hurts it never helps|0 Yeah its fucked init I didnt know about the air ambulance Im from Manchester thought it was bad my local ae shutdown now like 4 miles ago but fuck thats just disgusting|0 We will do a worse job containing this than we did with the swine flu It doesnt take a wall of text to explain that this thing is extremely contagious and we arent doing a thing to nip it all in the bud The horse is out of the barn friend|0 Oh Jesus what the fuck why should ibuprofen be avoided now And what the fuck is paracetamol|0 Are you going to play the market |1 Sure or maybe he was in close proximity to someone else who was infected he was on a plane to and from Wuhan ffs Come on youre trying to sensationalise it|0 Its to ensure the health services are not overwhelmed its got nothing to do with reducing how many people get infected They actually want people to get it so there is a heard immunity protecting further outbreaks|0 I wouldnt be surprised if someone complained Id be shocked if they actually got charged let alone found guilty|0 How about he doesnt speak for all celebrities If he doesnt want to talk about it thats fine But people are allowed to have opinions regardless of their job|1 I will be clapping alone in Canada in my backyard boyo|0 I wish I lived on a farm somewhere remote We have a little csmping trailer maybe well have to take it out|1 Wait since when does Italy have a good healthcare system Just asking because I never heard of that before I live in a north European country and the only thing I ever hear is fuck the south they are just leeching our money Again just a question no insult|0 imo the WHO probably said that in order to be allowed presence in that country About a decade ago North Korean healthcare couldnt even treat cataract and had to get doctors from other countries to perform simple surgeries for them But of course things could have changed by now|0 Of course they are ready with all those foreign doctors thereWould be a pity though if the doctors would be ordered back to their respective country to handle the outbreak at home|1 A study done showed that vitamin C was used in a test group 85 of those in the test group showed lesser symptoms|1 When the Germans had a cluster of people who were possibly infected they separated them into small groups so if one person got sick the quarantine didnt reset for the whole group They need to get these poor people off that boat in small groups and into quarantine|0 Yeah he knows reelection depends on the economy The sad thing is by downplaying this its going to have longer lasting economic repercussions because we fucked off our containment window|0 TIL Build the Wall and Strong Secure Borders are slogans from the Democrats|1 Depends on if you consider the US the treasury or the people|1 Most Americans dont have stocks of food I suspect a lot more Chinese families routinely keep a decently stocked pantry and dont have to panic about not being able to get to the store for a few weeks|1 Oh I get that Im saying we dont even have enough masks available right now let alone in a month There was a post somewhere yesterday where a nurse told how someone raided their supply room and took boxes of masks cleaned them outNow the nurses are out of masks and struggling How the hell can hospitals be so mismanaged that they didnt order large quantities of masks when this outbreak has been coming since Jan 1|0 Yeah China lies|0 Second derivative rate of growth in rate of new cases has been zero over the last four days There is some reason to hope that it has been working But mere lockdown is thought to have been insufficient in Wuhan They needed central quarantine to start decelerating IIUC Its an uncomfortable observation because I dont want to be centrally quarantined and I think it will take a lot for my government to take that final step but it might be whats necessary Hopefully not|1 Stupid fucking turtle rMichaelReeves leeking|0 This is insane|0 Its hard to see how virtually all of China isnt going to have some kind of outbreak|0 We Italians are an incredible country We are a little piece of land but Italy gave birth to lots of incredible people Yes we are very good in some bad behaviour tooSo proudBut said that We are all humans Fight together Stay together|0 Yes thank you very much|1 My moms a clinician and has 100s of friends that are RN and they said theyre closing some emergency rooms to stop the spread because thats what most community transmission cases have in common scary times were in And I dont think theyre full closing them and letting no one in I just think they are all getting more strict screening time to call in the army and reserves to help Canada out I hope thats announced soon enough health care workers need the help and security|1 I think we didnt have any misunderstanding the world is fucked|0 I see So nonChinese being fearful of Chinese because of the virus is totally different from Chinese being fearful of people from Hubei because of the virus|0 Oh god Do his kids need to get it before he does anything concrete|1 go back and look at the data from the Spanish Influenza epidemic communities that practiced effective isolation strategies fared much better The choice is indeed not between merely giving up and widespread infection There are people alive in Wuhan today because of drastic measures|1 Yeah Ive had people coming to and from the office all week from various states and even Europe its a matter of time|1 I did learn that Dr Fauci takes 1000 mg of vitamin C a day along with extra vitamin D Thought that was an interesting tidbit|1 Thats delicious|1 First alt sub Im actually going to approve Good jobUpvote this post to get it to the top|1 No youre insane|0 Absolutely surreal Sounds like they are taking things seriously there which is good to hear I live in Missouri and I cant say that many people here are At least some of the people here that I have talked to about this but I wish they would My gut is telling me that this is going to get worse before it gets better Please be safe out there Thank you for the information It seems like I cant find information on the situation like we could a month or two ago|1 They are also testing people who call a special number created for coronavirus but they need to wait days for it|1 Original|1 Ideally you limit items per customer which would work in an emergency better If its a small amount per family you lower the amount of scalpers whod just get all their family and friends to line up and buy each thing to sell because inevitably the family and friends would say what do you mean we We need this sanitizer too youre on your own|1 How does a person file for unemployment anyways|0 Zhong Nanshan estimated if a week earlier we would only have 13 of the caseAccording to retrospect analysis from Chinese netizens early warnings were sent in late Dec but Hubei officials decides it would be too costly to enforce measures and cause panic they interrupted the reaction process personally to maintain social harmonySo you could say we can act a week earlier at least but damn infectious disease move fast|0 Meanwhile you get 9425 per week in the UK if you are lucky I self isolated as I am part of the high risk population and got nothing because I dont have symptoms Good lordEdit Somehow this appeared under a different comment that I initially intended to reply to but yeah|1 Using synthetic COVID19 virus RNA fragments we have been able to consistently detect COVID19 target sequences in a range between 20 and 200 aM 10100 copies per microliter of input The test can be carried out starting with RNA purified from patient samples as is used for qRTPCR assays and can be read out using a dipstick in less than an hour without requiring elaborate instrumentationDirect Link to PDF httpsstatic1squarespacecomstatic5b7c640be2ccd1703a3da4d3t5e46d16cf617da2f796f926e1581699437272COVID19detection28v2020021429pdfhttpsstatic1squarespacecomstatic5b7c640be2ccd1703a3da4d3t5e46d16cf617da2f796f926e1581699437272COVID19detection28v2020021429pdfI linked to the Tweet on the reddit in case there are updates posted not sure if they are going to update the PDF link or post a new link|0 Well see |1 Why do people keep stating with absolute certainty that people WILL end their isolation after a monthPeople are not going to isolate themselves if it means losing their home or starving People with elderly parents who cant care for themselves will not either Problems like broken down boilers leaking roofs and broken cars will accumulate People and businesses will run out of things All kinds of things will draw people back in to social interaction not to mention that many people will be moving around anyway hopefully including anyone involved in healthcare public health and their supply chainsWhat would be the point of starting it earlier than necessary anyway Delaying it is good yes but not at any cost And if its growing exponentially and is sufficiently far below the eventual peak which it is for the time being there arent obvious reasons to think that the peak will be any lower compared to doing it a little later It has to be done in good time yes but that doesnt mean now and we should rely on epidemiologists to tell us when not on people being scared on the Internet When people start dying on mass do you not think that self preservation instincts will kick in and people will behave like the chinese did and are still doingMost people are also going to see lots of people they know getting the virus and recovering People will get complacent|0 One of the rare occasions that Im proud of my state|1 We in California take our shoes off at our condo as well We even have a take off your shoes sign by the front door which people sometimes listen to and sometimes dont I find my Asian houseguests to be more considerate about it than others probably because they are more used to doing it at home As for masks Ive been saying this all along Why should I have to sit at work with somebody hacking up a lung right next to me If they arent going to stay home at least wear a damn mask We could learn a lot from our Asian friends|1 The problem is that medical professionals need them more and actually use them correctly correct type of mask for the situation and used only for the time period they actually work If all of the sudden everyone starts wearing them the first responders and doctors that are in the front lines will not have access to them|0 I find it odd considering there has only been like 1 person confirmed in the whole country I guess its always better to make sure and keep your workers healthy though|1 Yeah but theres likely several times more people out there who have it but havent been tested They might have only mild symptoms or just havent come down with any symptoms yet|1 The asymptomatic spread would have to be slower though without coughing However maybe not in a nursing home as there many things demand close contact with the patient Still as it seems so mild in the generalyoungish population and so bad in the elderly and vulnerable I think there should be some planing to save those people like the Swiss epidemic plan where they strictly say hospitals will be for the elderly ICUs for the vulnerable and very sick and the rest will quarantine at home However that goes together with testing most flu like illnesses and knowing where clusters are I mean sure they have an open border with Italy but we have a giant Chinese Iranian Italian etc migrant population on the West Coast so we are as much in danger since the initial outbreak in Wuhan And yet we dont test since day one And now we believe there was spread since almost day 1 here too maybe if we knew where it was it could help|0 Youd have to assume that everyone wouldnt be infected AT ONCE Itll be staggered Itll still overwhelm hospitals for sure though|1 yes the right thing to do before things get bad coz once they do you will be overwhelmed dont call this overreacting|0 Trump is trying to save his voting demographic|1 I will be messaging you in 6 days on 20200309 155644 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003092015564420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcc1godrmattmccarthysaystherewillbethousandsoffja1ukxcontext33 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffcc1go2Fdrmattmccarthysaystherewillbethousandsof2Ffja1ukx2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030920153A563A4420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this 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automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Dont you need more than one mask per day to wear it effectively|1 Kind of weird that an F35 pilot that is stationed in Italy was posting like 5 times a day but hasnt posted anything since February 6th|1 We didnt even achieve herd immunity with flu|0 Hush Celebrities especially famous actors are all much smarter than everyone else and know everything about everything|1 Yeah people just dont understand A ventilator can cost upwards of 20k30k Nobody in their right mind is gonna spend a million dollars on equipment that might not be used when that can be spent on equipment that can actually be utilized in a timely manner|1 Unfortunately many of them will fall on the field of battle The combination of overwork constant exposure to infected patients and maybe lack of PPE mean they will not all make it through this|0 When I first heard about the virus in Jan I immediately ordered some surgical masks online I am worried because my country imports everything and we dont have a mask factory so I dont understand why other countries who have mask factories are not ramping up production Hmm I am worried about the government downplaying the situation so as not to affect the economy Ignorance might be another reason SighAll we need is just one socially irresponsible person and we might see a spike in cases I am just worried about the strain on our healthcare If more energy and efforts are spent on this there will be lesser care or personnel attending to other patients eg cancer patients which may delay their treatment and cause death I do hope people take this seriously tho The death rate may be low but there will be so much more implications if the healthcare system is overloaded I hope the situation gets better with spring and summer coming|0 Yeah I suspect its at least partly an issue of smart people being bossed around by morons because not everyone at the CDC can be that incompetent I hopeIf I were them Id show some American balls and say fuck the feds and test anyway Its pathetic|0 Yes of course good points but I thought they could at least make it a bit believable Its even more dumb than that guy below calling me a wumao for not liking this rule lol|0 Possibly an advisor told him 2 weeks ago chloroquine is looking great in early studies and he translated that to the American public as One day its like a miracle it will disappear|1 Yep this is the kind of info thats hard to find but should be more available Like which country has issued a travel ban to which country due to the virus|0 I assume he will someday which might be the only way to get rid of that shit stainBut realistically I assume he didnt run this time around because he had Bloomberg to test the waters for him so to speak But really Cuomo really isnt popular in many parts of NY he generally does nothing and then blames Albany for not doing anything And the few times he does its pointless and unpopular bullshit like the safe act|0 I love your dad|1 Scared money dont make money|0 Not only are there 276k suspected yesterday 4k were added The day before there were 26k suspected cases They confirmed 3k cases yesterday Probably from the suspected category|0 Most likely youll have online classes Im in Ohio as well and thats what my kids school is doing|1 Some people do not have symptoms even if they are infected They dont selfisolate because they think they are not infected then they spread it to others Thats how it spreads Contrast that to Korea Im British South Korea are testing 20000 a day It can be used to correctly identify cases even with few symptoms and has a positive effect httpswwwscmpcomweekasiahealthenvironmentarticle3074469coronavirussouthkoreacutsinfectionratewithoutfbclidIwAR1wSo2rimlCMzud8PayAV4NXiPZppbV10pePEOqZtoh3gm9ZBfvZNDo|0 Called NHS a few days ago asking if someone is having the COVID symptoms if they should stay home for 2 weeks the answer I got from them was absolutely not unless theyve come in contact with a positive case or travelled to an high risk countryInsanity|1 I literally thank every employee I see when I have to go to the store THANKS YOU GUYS|1 I mean I reached out to my parents and said You know youre in the high risk portion of every chart that is reporting on this virus I dont mean to scare you but that meas you need to be extra prepared and make additional precautions How can I help you do thisAnd then we sat down for an hour discussing things that had to be done bought and changed|1 Id prefer to have the seal People can be sick with more than one thing especially during a pandemic thats stressing the system|0 Possible that things are expedited a bit no Once the vaccine is discovered of course I just mean like regulatory tape|1 Shes not exactly a college student She had her undergrad in Law worked as a lawyer for like 34 years is now back in school for her Masters She truly believes that China is democratic and communist|1 Sure sure he is |1 hes finally waking the fuck upTEST usi say TEST US to see if this is true Picard on Cornavirus testing|0 How can you honestly be politicizing that No sane person believes Trump would do that Give it a rest Italy has quarantined half their country What makes you think we wont have to do the same next month|1 Which is fine But what with the people living with that person |1 Incompetent or malicious|0 Have you had any children with weakened immune systems asthma seriously ill or die|0 You clearly have no clue how global supply chain works and how much we depend on each other and how fragile it is to sudden events When a deflation comes u will be the first one to complain Because it will hit you the most as you are likely in the lower income bracket based on your statement|0 space force falling comfortably into the traditional role of the us military as vector of disease|1 Why dont you infect yourself with Coronavirus to build immunity and then start doing screening tests as a volunteer Afraid I thought you had to break some eggs to make an omeletteIts easy to sacrifice other people from your comfortable home isnt it|1 Not a fan of Boris or his crazy herd immunity plan but there are reports that those recovered do get antibodies although not 100 They do I dont have source but read it lots of times from different Chinese reports on Wuhan when they had asked for those recovered to probably donate blood for antibody researchBut knowing that doesnt calm me at all Just dont want to get it|0 Theres a legal loophole if youre child feels unsafe at school for any reason theres no truancy recourse I imagine Canada is similar|0 Not a link to the source requested but this podcasthttpspodcastsapplecomchpodcastthepeterattiadriveid1400828889leni1000468457729fbclidIwAR0KDOmkE29fcACUYXglTumm2VriV9kYNVglaceYmMyZhnMttFGQxjLxQ gives a lot of fascinating albeit technical information|1 Consider sickness in the medical professionIm an ER doc and work as a 1099 employee meaning Im an independent contractor If I dont work I dont get paid so I feel these peoples painTheres also the problem that if I dont go to work sick people dont get taken care of and credentialing new providers takes a minimum of three months and thats if you rush it and THAT assumes you can find people Theyre trying to make some kind of arrangement where only a set crew of physiciansnurses takes care of the Coronavirus patientssection but who is volunteering for that gig Working 247 in that gig is going to burn people out in very short order Also if you get sick doing that do you just keep working Youre sharing the same infection you cant infect them with something they already haveIts quite the dilemma One thing is certain you CANNOT have a single patient take 124 hospital workers outofcirculation like that case at UCDavis The math on that makes it unsustainable you dont HAVE extra providers to compensate for that rate of attrition|0 Meanwhile here at Enterprise rent a car we just recently changed guidelines to allow people under 21 to rent So now we have even MORE people we get to infect|1 Probably one or two dudes just spitting tooWhy doesnt the CCP play this on their state propaganda channel|0 Wtf |0 The senate will make it legal|1 Surely WrestleMania will be cancelled as well 80k people in one stadium in April is a disaster waiting to happen|0 Seriously what the hell has happened over the past 4 years to the mentality of this country I guess its just exposed the rot that was always there|0 OP is correct I work as a BioProcess Engineer 20 years with a large American Biotech Company and Ive been telling people not to be holding out for a vaccine anytime soon Clinical Trials normally take 25 years with a very high failure rate Youve also got to mass produce the final liquid vial for Global Distribution That may require a new huge manufacturing facility to make the first Verified batches You cant simply fast track a vaccine like Trump would have the general public believe Its a long expensive and tricky process with many speed bumps along the way In addition biotechpharma companies are not charities They will want a shit load of money to develop and mass produce a vaccine It sucks in a lot of resources and capital and is a huge financial risk that only the big boys could take on Id say deals are currently being done with taxpayers money behind closed doors with the likes of AMGEN Abbotts Merck Eli Lilly etc They arent going to risk their own money especially now their stocks are down|0 no im serious lol is it Bombardier which plane do they make here|1 It wouldnt sit right with me either Especially since no one asked his opinion on it now he wants to be concerned |0 Suddenly everyone who works at apple is sick|0 Worldometers has an interesting section where they calculate cases100k of the population Italys already the highest at 1517 and given the speed at which cases are increasing this could go as high as 250300100k Which is ridiculous given this is an illness that is most affecting the elderly and that Italys taken stringent containmentquarantine measures The impact this could have on the longterm health of the Italian population may well be very severe even among survivors depending on what we find out about longterm effects of surviving the virus Which in turn will have an outsize impact on their healthcare sector This could be far more impactful for Italy internally even compared to Chinas internal effects given the population difference between countrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus|0 Here FOS is freedom of speech|1 I dont live in China my mom loves reading online novels and play simple games watch TV dramas she is pretty happy just feeling bored because she was excited about family get together in Chinese New Year and now its all canceled|1 I still dont understand why medical personnel everywhere arent wearing full suits with gloves and face shield with a face mask This is what theyve done in China and not one person was infected with it in a hospital or on the front lines Granted these people may not have got it that way|0 Why are they still ADVISING people to selfisolatewhy cant the government just quarantine people who are coming from Covid hot spots for 14 days When we place too much trust in a mass number of people most of the time we will be disappointed by the result|1 Good luck man stay safe and stock up on those immune system gummies|1 Why would she be unhappy You have to admire his busines mind set 50p isnt even that unreasonable|1 My mom too Ugh|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Fuck Im glad its not just me My productivity has dropped to 0 because of this bullshit I tried blocking news appssites but cannot Fucking keep refreshing also|0 So sad Thoughts and prayers to his family|0 This guy claims to be an MD yet he doesnt consider the demographisThe average age in Italy is the highest in Europe their population is at much greater risk than in Korea Also their culture doesnt support social distancing|0 Right now the rate of change is frankly bullshit early on like this|0 the production of essential goods like medications to a single country especially since that country is not friends with the West and has been a frequent source of recent novel virusesyoure only just realising that|1 Lets revert to calling it what it is the Wuhan Flu because it is FROM Wuhan Stop the crazymaking|0 Hey now as a foreigner who didnt grow up with the relevant social hangups the first two or three times Security invited me to drink tea versus being invited to tea which has also happened it was still scary as fuckNowadays I just find it annoying|0 Im sure you are correct I just wish the messaging from official would reflex that I just heard a guy in the house parliament state masks dont work at all for healthy people which makes no logical sense Even if it doesnt stop the virus having anything covering your mouth would be better than nothing I wish they would just state the truth that medical people need them more|1 The sad thing is it wont help italy because once you step a foot in france germany netherlands spain etc you also step a foot in italyWe have open borders nobody controls who enters the country|0 Tldr Our response is led by people who believe their own propagandaReminds me of Hitlers request to move long destroyed divisions across France and Germany during the allied invasion of Normandy|0 Sure httpsobamawhitehousearchivesgovsitesdefaultfilesmicrositesostppcasth1n1reportfinal2pdfhttpsobamawhitehousearchivesgovsitesdefaultfilesmicrositesostppcasth1n1reportfinal2pdf Page 1088 on the PDF Released August 7Assumes infenction of 30 to 50 of population 18 million hospital admissions and 3090k deaths CONCENTRATED AMONG CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS Do you remember much being made about that|1 Its Trump He gives zero Fs who he offends I dont like the guy and Dont agree with alot of his stuff but I admit His zero Fs attitude on who he offends is kind of refreshing|0 Does lead kill the coronavirus then|0 Absolutely and great in times like this|1 When did Boris say shaking hands wasnt such a good idea after all|0 I hear Ja Morant recently freed up his schedule|1 Good call|1 Make it 4 weeks and it would be effective It WILL spread around families but after 4 weeks every household with zero cases could hit the streets to support the families quarantined with cases We could get this under control in a month but i worry we as a species are not capable of collectively helping each other do the right thing|1 The US test costs 10 to produce More expensive sure but not cost prohibitive for a developed country Production volume is the bottleneck here to my understanding|1 Im sorry for the people saying you deserve it you dont Hopefully this will encourage the Chinese public and Govt to ban these exotic dealers I hope this all clears and you can enjoy what time you can together and get some good food Stay strong and keep your head up|1 Which is connectedstates have given up waiting on CDC and apparently were aithorized to go with their own tests as a result of problems with CDC test Plus I read the CDC test came back positive for other things so a positive result might not be positive for coronavirus 2|1 Exactly But think of a little bigger picture Think that locking down NYC will push USA and maybe the world into Great Depression and I am afraid that Great Depression all by itself will be more deadly than a virus with 24 mortality rate Think of all the services not provided think of all old people cut off from lifeextending medicine services etc I understand that criticizing Trump for perceived inaction is a normal kneejerk reaction but economic consequences could be a lot deadlier then crowdpleasing actions|0 To an extent It definitely makes leaks impossible Imo the reality is just having good numbers is difficult and takes effort Any energy expended on disrupting the flow of information is pretty effective when its this systemic I think people underestimate how much effort it takes for western nations to maintain accurate accounting of so much information Its way easier to never know anything than to figure everything out and then erase any record of it|1 I just want to say youre awesome Thanks for this thread and being so transparent with everyone|1 Lets see Will it be across the board or just specific countries I think Thailand and Cambodia are important places to watch as there is no reason they have not seen an increased number of cases yet|0 The most profitable scenario is that everyone gets the disease and you try to test 100 of the population|1 Let me make it more obviousWe cannot contain it but we canFLATTEN THE CURVEand save many thousands of lives of medical staff without them the deaths will rise like a helium balloon|1 Another caveat is that mild symptoms are possibly dismissed or misappropriated by an infected person|0 Yeah but China took extraordinary measures to flatten the curve Whether we believe all the numbers or not they did things that other places are just starting to think about doing Idk why people think this virus will act any differently than it did there Do you really think this was a case of people in Wuhan not washing their hands enough Do you really think the US is going to skirt this without testing more people Ignorance isnt going to solve this issue|0 New Zealand MSM is a joke when it comes to international events every true kiwi knows that bro|1 This is where I am right now the property is currently my only income and we have a baby on the wayIm more than happy to have a rent holiday like theyre doing with mortgages but cant really afford to write it off completely|1 ok thanks|1 I have compromised lungs so I started wearing masks in certain situations and people straight up stared andor rolled their eyes Fucking idiots|1 Means nothing people tested for positive after multiple negatives incubation lasts like up to 25 days|1 Hey first of all its okay to feel a little scared sometimes This virus is a terrible thing and we have to keep fighting Stressing yourself out mentally will have negative effects though both for you mentally and physicallyI know its not as easy to remain calm but its one of the only things we can do at the moment For me prayer gives me peace and reassures me that everything will be all right Maybe you have a hobby that makes you feel the same wayBut on another note please dont go on the vacation I understand that it has been a though time but the next couple of months are going to be tough on everyonePlease consider other people your putting at risk because of you travelling aroundThere is also a high chance to catch the virus while travelling so I would definitely advice against itI understand it wont go the way you wanted it to but try to look out for new opportunitiesRemember wash your hands and face hand off you face and stay safe buddy If you need to talk Im here God be with you and your loved ones amen|1 Its because most people are running on the hamster wheel so fast just to keep 3 hots and a cot going that theres no time for questionsBy design of course|0 How contagious is this thing|0 Discount my ass DG is the most expensive place for groceries around here|0 yes it is basically invisible for a few weeks then boom you see one death at an aged care facility or a hospital and find 50 cases when you test there and quite a few carers get itBUT I think its on a much faster timescale than you suggest because there will have been multiple seed cases spreading in each of the major cities for the past 4 weeks so perhaps 1500 already on each coast Now it has started surfacing in the US Id expect to see a rapid increase in the next 5 days in LA SF NY then within 10 to 15 days all hell breaks loose and hospitals are full and overloaded then we shutdown schools districts etc and ride it out for 3 months until it burns through and we beat it downWe need to brace for this thing its a firestorm|0 Do you know the famous Mary who was quarantined by your government until her death I dont know whether that was in accordance with your law or not maybe the law has been revisedBut keeping people from deliberately spreading lethal virus to the public does seem a rather good law which is the case of China|0 I hope it doesnt come to that|1 This is very true but to be fair AIDS is a completely different animal than this coronavirus or SARS It was way less widespread and had a much lower RO factor on average If something like the coronavirus or SARS started in America social media and mainstream alike would have outed it a while agoEDIT like ulispwright said HIV is what I meant not AIDS which comes from HIV|1 Antagonizing them would just make the collaboration worse|0 I dont get it People dont understand how dangerous the coronavirus is Hey news guy I got the corona getting a mask real quick what an absolute idoit|1 Then whats the point of a sentence of less than 3 years|1 NO NO NO NO NO MY WIFE IS 6 weeks pregnant and I am so riddled with stress And she works in a hospital in NYC|0 Just did the other dayhttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf85s2hclinicalfeaturesofh1n1swineflu20092010forhttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf85s2hclinicalfeaturesofh1n1swineflu20092010forAlso what do you mean that the WHOs 2 is a lieThey insist on dividing the number of deaths by the total number of cases and calling that the mortality rate This ignores the obvious fact that 90 70 percent of the total cases are still sick and might die in the future As you can see the mortality rate for hospitalized cases is 5 or more and the mortality rate for all cases is unknown because China and most other countries do not report cases who dont show up to the hospital with symptomsClosest thing we have to measuring hospitalization rates is the Diamond Princess cruise of whom 750 are infected about half are asymptomatic 2 recovered 3 dead all in their 80s and 36 severely ill Hopefully not too many more die but we cant draw conclusions yet|0 because suspected wasnt defined then and could have meant a whole host of things but now we know it basically means the patient has or had it So its essentially confirmed they just for whatever reason are unable to verify the last test results If theyre limited by test kits it makes sense in my mind to use them on patients for early diagnosis rather than use multiple tests on people who already have pneumonia or have tested positive already before and are clearly symptomatic|1 Yeah here in Como area too|1 The shady Amazon side deal they tried to foist on NYersIts the greatest city with the not greatest politicians Im impressed by how my city state representatives are handling Coronavirus|1 Well thanks for the info|1 Agreed|1 thanks for the measured response tiktokgod123|1 Good leaders attract good teams|1 It will help to support people who lose their jobs as business are forced to close Its just in better position to support its citizens than most countries No one is getting out of this unscathed|1 Those masks are nowhere near adequate and are they wearing no goggles RIP to some of those guys|0 Yeah Ill be damned if I dont do everything I can to make sure everybody sees the end of this together If that takes a committed temporary sacrifice then so be it Best wishes to you and yours as well be safe|1 This virus is definitely serious to the elderly population 50 is going to get hit hard AF A lot of us will lose parentsgrandparents if this spreads|0 Even if the states are nominally democratic dont mistake this for the political elites actually caring for the masses It should be pretty clear at this point that money talks and bullshit walks|1 My wife is a psych resident whos unlucky enough to be on inpatient general medicine for the next 8 weeks Timing could not be worse|1 Yh ik Doesnt the flu kill more or something|1 To play Conspiracy man You could argue that the disease was not finished and it was released by mistake Or that it is natural but was bred or found selectively in a lab and let out by mistake|0 I knew Blender will be there on the list makes me happy|1 Ok so I get the point that mask helps keep those who are already sick from spreading the viruses So let break this down1 Limited testing is being done due to low supply Even people who clearly have the symptoms are being turn away from testing Some are selfisolating and others are not 2 Some people are asymptomatic So due to the limited testing they dont know if they have it and even if testing was available they probably wouldnt go due to no symptomsWith just these two facts in mind wouldnt it make sense for the public to wear mask anyway Especially for since some people might not show symptomsIm really having trouble understanding why this alone isnt enough to get people to wear mask The only explanation I can think of is we dont have enough mask to go around and people would go into panic if they told everyone to wear mask|0 STAY THE FUCK HOME Restaurants across the country are shutting down In NC thevre just expanded unemployment for places that shut down due to coronavirus Just stay home and dont infect anyone Relief is coming although it probably wont be ideal its coming Stay the absolute fuck home|0 Maybe theyre a Jack Russell Terrier Or they have oneJokes aside I think youre being a bit aggressive If you can get outside without interacting with anyone or touching any common surfaces as in my apartment building you can you dont come near others while walking and youre isolating in your residence besides that what real risk does going outside pose to yourself let alone othersI think if youre afraid to go out under such conditions youre being irrational|0 Chinas gonna China Its almost predictably sad how its government behaves|0 Im sure youre right Im a total drag |1 I take a couple courses on my off days at a local community college I asked all my professors one on one if there had been any discussion about continuity of operations in event of closure between the faculty that the student body had not been made aware of my instructors brushed it off saying theyll deal with it if it becomes a problemFucking okay Mine and my wifes employers have already laid out their plans and guidance weeks ago|1 Thats damn near impossible we live together ugh|0 httpsenwikipediaorgwikiTemplate2019E2809320coronavirusoutbreakdataWHOsituationreportshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTemplate2019E2809320coronavirusoutbreakdataWHOsituationreports This wikipedia spreadsheet references the available data from WHO to calculate the doubling days for the virus There are numbers that are inclusive and exclusive of china as well|1 Dammit Marie It doesnt get much lower than removing your kids from willJust trying to laugh a little or I will cry being stuck inside with an 8 year old only child who demands attention 247|1 Guys much appreciate your support Rn were all in quarantine locked inside our homes Only certain industry workers can still go to work everyone else must not leave home But there is no panic here groceries are well supplied and for now were doing good Only few hospitals are having lots of trouble handling all the patients like in Wuhan sadly If we acted first we would have avoided these high numbers and many dead so Im telling you guys to stay home Dont risk your life because it seems nothing dangerous at least for 2 weeks sacrifice your habits and stay safe at home please Love from italy|1 Home isolation is all that is requiredHe has very mild symptoms which arent even all that indicative of covid19 Sounds more like the common cold He had traveled but only to Spain and Portugal Spain only has 32 cases Portugal has none If he had been to China South Korea Italy or Iran the chances of covid19 would be far higherVery very unlikely to be positive|1 Inevitable at this point help each other Were on our own|1 Im not sure thats correct but Im away from my desk right now so Ill have to take your word for it How many tests do you were done each day over the past five days|0 And the folks who rescue animals and sacrifice their own wellbeing to make sure the animals are safe I work at a rescue and our crew hasnt thought of themselves once which for better or worse shows how much we love animalsI dont get to stay home even if we get quarantined because somebody has to take care of them|1 Hospital billed me 8400 for an ultrasound guided biopsyI was told that my part for out of network cost would only be 154 dollarsfound out it was out of network right before procedure but after even reprocessing to fix their bullshit they say I owe over 500 when I shouldnt have paid a dime in the first place because the imaging center scheduled my biopsy at an out of network hospital Needless to say I learned my lesson to say kiss my assss when I find myself in the situation again with an out of network|0 This features a quite long interview with the director of acute medicine at the Wuhan University South Central Hospital who offers some interesting insights For instance issues with diagnosing patients in the first few weeksBefore this the specialists already went to Jinyintan Hospital to investigate and made a set of diagnosis criteria You had to have had exposure to the South China Seafood Market you needed to have had a fever and test positive for the virus You had to meet all three criteria in order to be diagnosed The third one was especially stringent In reality very few people were able to test for a virusOn Jan 18 the highlevel specialists from the National Health Commission came to Wuhan to South Central Hospital to inspect I told them again that the criteria were too high This way it was easy to miss infections I told them this was infectious if you made the criteria too high and let patients go youre putting society in danger After the second national team of specialists came the criteria were changed The number of diagnosed patients rose quicklyand observations of the progression of illnessIve observed that the breakout period of the novel coronavirus tends to be three weeks from the onset of symptoms to developing difficulties breathing Basically going from mild to severe symptoms takes about a week There are all sorts of mild symptoms feebleness shortness of breath some people have fevers some dont Based on studies of our 138 cases the most common symptoms in the first stage are fever 986 per cent of cases feebleness 696 per cent cough 594 per cent muscle pains 348 per cent difficulties breathing 312 while less common symptoms include headaches dizziness stomach pain diarrhea nausea vomitingBut some patients who enter the second week will suddenly get worse At this stage people should go to the hospital The elderly with underlying conditions may develop complications some may need machineassisted respiration When the bodys other organs start to fail thats when it becomes severe while those with strong immune systems see their symptoms decrease in severity at this stage and gradually recover So the second week is what determines whether the illness becomes criticalThe third week determines whether critical illness leads to death Some in critical condition who receive treatment can raise their level of lymphocytes a type of white blood cell and see an improvement in their immune systems and have been brought back so to speak But those whose lymphocyte numbers continue to decline those whose immune systems are destroyed in the end experience multiple organ failure and dieFor most the illness is over in two weeks whereas for those for whom the illness becomes severe if they can survive three weeks theyre good Those that cant will die in three weeks|0 Right Its a clever hypothesis It would make reactionary people be later than science people and allow more people to prepare for 6 weeks instead of 1 or 2|1 It is not possible to make vaccines for all viruses think HIV Our knowledge of vaccine development is pretty advanced but it is not always possibleOn the one hand we are lucky there was SARS because SARS vaccine development has already been going on for years But despite that no one has successfully made a SARS vaccine No one has successfully made any coronavirus vaccine As other people have said early trials of SARS vaccines made the disease worse in animal modelsThere are currently 3 different promising SARS vaccine types that are showing good signs in animal models that people are now changing for use in sars2 but no one knows if any will actually work and be safe in humans|1 Isnt disarmament negated by the increase in the destructive capacity of the current weapons Disarmament is sort of a moot point when even the current amount of weapons guarantees MAD several times over anyways|0 Doesnt the form ask you if you have coronavirus Like how tf am I supposed to know|1 Thats better than what I made as a CoOp Engineer Lol|1 I dont understand the logicYou have no customers you want more customersRaise prices|0 I feel like in order to be a good comparison we should be looking at cases per capita|1 Anyone else feel that every publicly elected official failed their duties to the people they represent That everyone dodged responsibility and was afraid of making a wrong call that they waited way too long to take massive action akin to Singapore or South Korea|0 YepThats the most terrifying thing Ive ever seen|0 This is a PR stunt Look at how many randomass awards this post has Italy had to buy those supplies china is just shipping it to them The CCP is trying the same shit with the US to make it seem like theyre not murderers|1 Its just the flu bro herp derp|0 This is true|1 How much time do we have til you are completely overrun and start rationing care|1 Because its under the assumption wearing a mask youre sick and therefore shouldnt be at work in the first place but some people dont have the time to take off and need the money etc|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos and can any kindly people will tell me what he has done so we all fuck him|0 Well fuck man thats major mistake to make during times like these but thanks for clarifying |1 Maybe they can just have patients who have recovered be instructed to wear the best face mask available for a month|1 this is not the correct interpretation of SKs death rate There is lag between when you are infected and when you die During that time the number of infected increases exponentially|0 I dont have proof that my car needs gas to get me to work since Ive never let it run completely empty but logic dictates that it probably does So Id rather not find outTheres no way to know in a household which surface specifically you caught the virus from So we exercise caution with all surfaces We wash bedding we disinfect door knobs etc We should also be cautious with pets Thats common senseI never said the virus was replicating in dogs and we need to murder all the puppies How about you read the scenario I wrote and tell me what exactly in it is impossible or explain why exactly people dont need to use caution in such a scenario Or better yet link some actual sources for your claims|0 Thank you Im sorry I should have clarifiedIm not in NYC and my district is now closed at least through March at this time We found out after school on Thursday and it was suuuuch a relief off my shoulders I hope that NYC follows suit soonOne thing I dont think people realize is how insanely stressful and anxietyridden it is to try to actively teach a classroom of children though this|1 I feel idk vindicated or something I know I was getting some serious side eye This feels like a weight has literally been lifted|1 Can you elaborate Whats wrong with E3 Sorry I dont keep up with the gaming industry|0 2 weeks ago Okay well think about doing somethinglast week Were really considering doing somethingThis week Were seriously CONSIDERING|1 Its like saying that youre banned from rhydrohomies because you called it water and not dihydrogen monoxideThis is fucking stupid Absolutely no one within the last 14 days has confused Coronavirus with anything other than COVID19 I bet the mods cant even show evidence of any confusion We ALL know Coronavirus is COVID19 This is just a poor ass excuse to censor information|0 I know some people feel they dont have a choice and its not easy but thats everyone working inside as well Its impossible to completely sanitize everything multiple times a day All it takes is one person whos asymptomatic Same with the takeout food and orders you really trust random people to be 100 responsible and never forget a single thing I cant even trust myself with that|1 Read over at PeakpreparednesscomhttpsPeakpreparednesscom that 700000 fewer shipping containers left port from China headed to just Europe in the past few weeks Figure the same number for the US A huge percentage of the global shipping container business is idle Not long at that rate until Walmart is a ghost town along with every possible place people could congregate Going to hit the restaurants especially hard soonest|0 Just a thought about the underrepresentation of smokers of confirmed cases Could it be that in mild cases smokers are less likely to consider themselves sick since in my experience smokers have more of a cough already Thus they might not realize if they simply develop a cough through the virus Whereas nonsmokers would associate a cough more with a disease|0 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCanadaCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This is also a good site Gives a lot of data along with a timeline for news around the world regarding the virus httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus|1 And this is why the US is fucked We dont test and employers dont give a shit if youre sick|0 You present with severe flu and possible pnemonia at the front desk of ER if you drive there guess what all they ask is have you been to China in the last 14 days The person could casually lie and say no and there would be no testing for corona virus this is the same shit we see in airports people are telling lies and getting past checkpoints|0 But honestly this is when you immediately report them to the stewardess and make clear you believe he was trying to spread a communicable disease to you and seems to be covering up signs of fever and coughThatll teach em|1 Darwin is smiling in his grave|1 confused American noises|0 Read the article They explain their methods and conclusions clearly|1 True|1 Would you like to know more|1 I think people in America just feel like they can believe things a la carte without regard to reality So it isnt stupidity so much as willful ignorance Or a misguided belief in magical thinking|1 No It is mostly american exceptionalism and Normalcy Bias plus way tooooo much faith in the American media|1 At a certain point people will take what they can get As long as we can come up with good methods of sterilization of masks|1 Exhaustion also Im wondering if he was a smoker|0 50 cent got shot 9 times Im not gonna advise that being shot is any less dangerous|0 You dropped the sEven 2 would mean tens of millions of deaths worldwide and most likely include members of your family as well|1 You know that meme floating around about using cocaine for coronavirus treatment Cant have an itchy face if you cant feel your face|1 The reality is that all the its just the flu bros will be pretending they werent in denial Every one of them that survives will tell future generations that it was the same for all of us They will say there was nothing anybody could do to predict this That it came out of nowhere and they will blame everybody else but theyll never admit to being assholes calling us out for being doomers Somehow conveniently nobody who survives will be left in the its just the flu camp|0 Im also on allergy shots My allergies are gone but it seems the major issue is not caused by allergies But at least its good that I dont cry Everytime I enter a dusty room|1 Why do people go on about older people being ignorant about this virus STUPID is not age specific Im old and scared shitless So are all of my friends with existing conditions Of ALL AGES Again I ask what does age have to do with stupid|0 Check small storeshardware stores Everyone is overlooking them for now usually but as it becomes more common knowledge people will empty those too So go as quick as you can|0 Our government will pay 90 of the salaries of employees who dontcannot work because of closed restaurants barsno available hourswhatever This will be for at least 3 months starting from March 1st 18 days agoThats pretty far too I thinkTheres tons of other measures being taken to ensure everyone can stay home and eat Our minister said we have very deep pockets and this is the time to use them cost will not be an issuePretty awesome |1 Im pretty sure I had a fever and trouble breathing when i got sick back in early february funnily enough it was right after I traveled to boston that I got sick when the first case there got reported I was sick for atleast a good 2 and a half weeksWas it the corona Il never know but I felt miserable af for a while|0 Fine the way infectious diseases spread within a country has not changed We have other outbreaks to choose from for evidence Asian Flu SARS etc Countries which have exprienced them Asia generally have been far more proactive What does that tell you|1 Yesssssss 100 agree|1 Bro just 1 billion cases why you so worried|0 If anyone can find the CAD files to this or some parameters I have access to my universities 3D printing lab and we have high resolution resin 3d printers We also have 1 printer that can print medical grade silicon x200BSend me anything and ill forward it to my mentorEdit Holy shit I never got an award before Just trying to help|0 He does Not sure how much but hes now at risk of losing his job due to negligence rather than losing a few weeks of work|0 Fuck Jeff bezos fucking ass|0 Its important to follow the rulesstep 1 let thousands of people who might be infectious but dont have a fever board airplanes to your countrystep 2 lose all of those peoplestep 3 try desperately to find all of those peoplestep 4 Oh my bad you committed suicide at step one|0 I think it depends on the child Kids with a lot of energy go crazy stuck inside which makes you crazyMy toddler who is a girl which I think helps a lot runs around but doesnt climb anything and often just wants to play with dolls or trains or whatever So we sometimes stay home all day because thats what we all likeI think the real problem are the parents who dont want to parent They want daycare school or their parents to do the majority of raising their child|0 This is a super virus 2 first time 30 second time 14 people with second infection of CoVID 19 have died Trying to locate the report to share|1 SeriouslyHow the fuck are people so dense that they cant remember 6 weeks ago|0 I wonder what secondary deaths well have from this when ICUs become overwhelmed and cannot effectively treat people with otherwise treatable medical emergencies|0 When you self promote your good deeds in order to gain status that in my opinion and in many philosophies is abhorrent This is actually and Advertisement IMO|1 And Im already bored|0 But but we have Pence to save the day right s|1 all the fucking children i see in the morning on the bus yeah great|1 Thank you |1 This is actually a great thing to check|1 Wash your hands avoid handshakes eat healthy hydrate You will most likely not catch it if you are careful so dont stress it|1 httpsmnewsnavercomreadnhnmodeLSDmidsecsid1102oid006aid0000101348This articles title is First death case there is a reason why it happened in Daenam hospital|0 When I travel I like to eat at least once in a popular chain to see what its like KFC in the Midwest USA has biscuits in a tub of gravy Burger King in Puerto Rico at one point had the option to replace fries with fried plantains Its interesting to see how things change|1 Hell yes|0 Thanks|1 There are other risks still like the mother being severely sick and impacted and therefore harming the baby with its own fever its own immune response or if late in pregnancy via convulsion when throwing upcoughing hard My own fiancee is 2 months along now and asthmatic so even if the baby wouldnt be able to catch its still potentially dangerous if the effect on her would be stronger than average All without the virus directly harming an embryo or fetusIt hasnt truly arrived in NZ yet but Im afraid for when it will the countrys medical system has no expansion capacity and were heading into winter|0 This has already gutted and will continue to gut the following industries airline cruise restaurant service hospitality and entertainment Now think about all the other supporting businesses and industries that are connected to those|1 Yes They could have simply pressed the same button We dont really know|1 Dont be petrified remind yourself to do what you can which is not much butWash your hands when going out especially after touching public surfacesDont touch your faceDont cough or sneeze freely do it into your elbow or better a kleenexSpread awarenessAside from that just try not to panic You have had Trump which I guess is kinda worse P|1 He also put together a coronavirus task force with what seemed to be well qualified candidates that gave a composed update of the situation and next steps|1 If you pass the test will you officially be employed You should then qualify for the benefits theyre offering for those who wouldnt otherwise qualify for EI|1 They were given a big head start which they completely squandered Production of test kits should have been a huge priority|1 Youre very certain about this Im sure you have very precise data to handCan you say how much staffing levels in the NHS would be reduced by closing schools and what increase in mortality this reduction in staffing will lead toAnd since you have such data to hand can you estimate what proportion of the elderly will be taken out of selfisolation and compelled to provide childcare services as grandparents and an estimate for the increase in mortality that this could causeThe reason I ask is that it isnt clear cut There are reasons to close schools and reasons to keep them open and we have to weigh up these reasons against each other in terms of maximising the people we keep aliveEdit Since were omniscient there is a welldefined correlation between GDP growth and life expectancyhttpsblogeuromonitorcomeconomicgrowthandlifeexpectancydowealthiercountrieslivelonger If school are closed then some chunk of people will have to stop work and engage in childcare this will have a knock on effect of lowering GDP growth even more than its currently lowered We can probably predict the number of excess deaths from that with a degree of confidence|1 It wont be her that she kills with her carelessness|0 Who cares I hope their life was worth some BIG SCREEN TVs Fucking TRASH|1 Det var samma expert som kommenterade p presskonferensen igr och chefen fr USAs CDC stod bredvid honom och verkade instmmaLite konstigt de r s tvrskra i Sverige och inte gr p frsiktighetsprincipen ven om de tror sig veta bttre De sade ocks att det inte smittar mellan mnniskor innan det var ocks helt fel och tvrt emot var andra lnder sade vid tillflletEnligt Anders Tegnell smittar det hr viruset frn djur till mnniskor Samtidigt ska det ha frekommit fall dr mnniskor inom samma familj smittat varandra Om viruset kan smitta mellan mnniskor s r det vldigt ineffektivt att gra det Ngon mer omfattande smittspridning med det vi vet nu kan vi inte frvnta oss sger statsepidemiolog Anders Tegnell som jobbar vid Folkhlsomyndigheten Men Anders Tegnell tycker inte att man behver oroa sig fr att ka till Kina|1 My biggest fear is warning a few close people preparing for disruption and washing my hands until they bleed then being the only person they know who died from this shit Lotta good all that did him lol I was licking poker chips in Macau and playing beer pong at UW with the engineering kids for all of spring break Look at me not even a coof I even inherited my boomer parents house sold it and made a killing buying the stock market dip idiots on my peripheries probably|0 I look at the difference between Italys response and SKs response One country was a lot more prepared for it than the other in doing things preemptively I can only guess that this is because there was horrible SARS1 and MERS outbreaks SK has had to attend to in the past couple decades But a lot more can be done the most important thing people can do to avoid people in critical condition 5 of cases who need ventilators otherwise they have a 50 chance of surviving being overstuffed beyond capacity at hospitals such that people ration ventilators and the docs and nurses are forced to choose an immunocompromised young adult over someones great grandma It has to do with a two week delay and exponential growth Heres a link to an article detailing this ideahttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99caIt shows its more about quarantining so people have high chances of survival because those that need ventilators get them in lieu of being capable of preventing a SARS like event which SK was completely able to due to experience They can test everyone US tested an embarrassingly small amount They can quarantine based on who got it We cantOne comment said that if people arent on board with a quarantine before they think its serious though it will save countless lives people will just react to it if they dont understand Probably why it works in SK|1 We went on Symphony of the Seas it was my first time on a cruise I can imagine that once you have a balcony you cant go back I liked the room for what it was though The really annoying thing is the tv which is forced through their services I wanted to plug in my laptop switch input and watch Netflix But they locked the functionality of switching input After a few days I found a way though |0 They are doing it now talk about procrastination XD|1 Lol now people will start wandering around with gas masks My school is already filling up with guys with N99 gas masks My entire school looks like it is gearing up for chemical warfare|1 I dont speak Dutch and cant use a translator at the momentHeres a DeepLhttpswwwdeeplcomtranslator translation usually way better than google translate hope it helps x200BMany young corona patients in intensive care probably because of Carnival The idea that only vulnerable seniors are at risk because of the coronavirus is not correct Of the 96 corona patients in intensive care in the Netherlands on Monday evening about half are younger than 50 years of age says Diederik Gommers chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care We think thats because the outbreak is mainly in Brabant and that it has to do with Carnival Carnival celebrators are generally a bit younger In general seniors and people who are already extra vulnerable have more to fear from the coronavirus Older people get sick faster If you have other illnesses youre most at risk of ending up in intensive care a bad heart for example diabetes or high blood pressure Operating room personnel However healthy younger patients also end up in the ICU What is the problem with them In some people there is a kind of overreaction of the body to the virus which causes them a severe pneumonia We dont understand exactly why but we sometimes see it in the regular flu season Can the Netherlands cope if the number of patients in intensive care increases in the coming weeks The number of beds can be increased to 1500 Gommers estimates That should be enough Over the past few years weve mainly suffered from a shortage of staff so we didnt have all the facilities in use That gives us some space now but we do need staff What you see now is that all planned operations are cancelled and we ask staff from the operating theatres to help in intensive care Without ventilation theres no chance Another risk is a possible shortage of respirators Were working with all kinds of people to see if we can find extra devices at companies and we might get 80 from the army If we call the manufacturers in the US Germany or Italy we notice that all countries want to buy such devices Theyre exhausted cant breathe by themselves IC physician Diederik Gommers about corona patients in intensive care How are the people who end up in intensive care Gommers Those people come to the emergency room with breathing problems They are often able to breathe on the first day after which they deteriorate rapidly They have to work very hard to still get air in They are exhausted as it were and at that moment we start intubating We insert a tube and take over breathing with a device Its called mechanical ventilation Without that device they dont stand a chance Theyre exhausted cant breathe on their own A patient doesnt notice anything about the ventilation its put to sleep just like surgery Kilos of muscle lost The major problem for patients in intensive care is that the coronavirus can take a very long time to respond Its really heavy doublesided pneumonia Usually it takes 14 days to ventilate But we know from Italy and China that it takes longer with the coronavirus that can take up to 4 weeks We also have some patients whove gone into the fourth week Thats when you actually want to cut back on ventilation support And then you have a long recovery period ahead of you Youve been asleep for so long and youve been breathing for so long that youve been recovering for six months to a year Some patients never fully recover Because of the disease and the long breathing you lose pounds of muscle|0 Looks like they can use it for food while theyre stuck there and if they dont spend it they get a check when they get home|1 Youre being snarky but I think Trump is a known germaphobeHe didnt want the US to bring back the infected cruise ship passengersI bet we see quarantines sooner than laterTrump isnt going to give a crap about using quarantines to slow the spread either This is the man who wants to build a wall against MexicoId rather have that approach than some well intentioned but unrealistic person opening their arms to anyone and everyoneWe dont want that We want to contain and mitigate as best we can|0 Thats the reason water and electric are telling everyone no disconnects Hopefully we get rent and mortgage waiver in the country soon|1 Yep fair enough Prices are a lot higher|1 So does this mean loved ones should be split up|1 I have seen great changes in this subreddit in the past three days Thumbs up for the good job and thank you|1 Fifth places like Hong Kong and Taiwan that jumped to action early with social distancing and universal mask wearing have the pandemic under much greater control despite having significant travel from mainland China Hong Kong health officials credit universal mask wearing as part of the solution and recommend universal mask wearing In fact Taiwan responded to the coronavirus by immediately ramping up mask productionSixth masks are an important signal that its not business as usual as well as an act of solidarity Pandemics require us to change our behavior our socialization hygiene work and more collectively and knowing our fellow citizens are on board is important for all effortsFinally providing topdown guidance with such obvious contradictions backfires exactly because lack of trust is what fuels hoarding and misinformation It used to be said that back in the Soviet Union if there was a line you first got in line and then figured out what the line was for people knew that there were going to be shortages and that the authorities often lied so they hoarded And when people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities snakeoil sellers and price gougers have an easier timeGiven that there is indeed a mask shortage and that medical workers absolutely do need these masks more what should the authorities have said The full painful truth Despite warnings from experts for decades especially after the near miss of SARS we still werent prepared for this pandemic and we did not ramp up domestic production when we could and now theres a mask shortage and thats disastrous because our front line health care workers deserve the best protection Besides if they fall ill we will all be doomedIf anything a call for people who hoarded masks to donate some of them to their local medical workers would probably work better than telling people that they dont need them or that they wont manage to make them work Look more masks would be great We are doing our best to ramp up production Till then if our medical workers fall ill we will all be worse off Please donate any excess maybe more than two weeks worth per person to your hospital sounds corny but its the truth Two weeks is a reasonable standard because the CDC and the WHO still recommend wearing masks if youre taking care of someone with a milder illness selfisolating at home something that will increasingly be necessary as hospitals get overwhelmedResearch shows that during disasters people can show strikingly altruistic behavior but interventions by authorities can backfire if they fuel mistrust or treat the public as an adversary rather than people who will step up if treated with respect Given that even homemade masks may work better than no masks wearing them might be something to direct people to do while they stay at home more as we all shouldWe will no doubt face many challenges as the pandemic moves through our societies and people will need to cooperate The sooner we create the conditions under which such cooperation can bloom the better off we all will be|1 Got no idea Ill see tomorrow the message came at 9 30 pm everyone was already closed|0 The filled thenbeaks with perfumes so they could handle the smell of the dead|0 Oh no Not a political stab post at all I remember strong talk of it during Obamas first term and that he wanted to close it It seems like it mightve disappearedat least for me from the news sometime around 20122013 So it was probably all the election cycle coverage and Obamas Healthcare plan that pushed it out of the newsAfter all the bullshit controversy with it I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I thought it had been closed|1 People with respiratory illness and a travel history to Italy would get tested so they must all be mildasymptomatic cases|0 So fuck it right See it as inevitable Just let myself and those around me get infected as Im Im asymptomatic for potentially 24ish daysNah Im not worried as much about me as I am for the elderly people Im in regular contact withPersonally I like and respect boomers|0 Question COVID19 FoodWhy is food prepared by others still considered safe For example take out and drive thru windows From what I have read it can be transferred person to person and can live on surfaces such as plastic for up to three days Everyone seems to agree the packaging and utensils may not be safe due to being handled Im talking about the actual foodIf someone unknowingly sick prepares your food and you eat it 30 minutes later how is that not a riskFood held at a warm temp is close to body temperature we all breathe while eating I would assume consuming infectious droplets would infect someone What are your thoughts and what info have you found on this|1 Or delay it until effective drugs or vaccines come out|1 Trump was trying to get exclusive rights for a possible vac for US before anyone else|1 Yes why does it not occur to people that this could be a new thing Why is it so implausible that it could be escaped from a lab Where is everyones sense of risk management|1 It would be helpful if you could narrow this down Nobody is going to lose their jobs now because they are specialists and are needed But you need to say if it came from a State or Federal source And you need to explain why you were told not who told you Meanwhile any of you living in the Pacific Northwest please google the location of armories and take a drive by now and see if there is any activity and let us know It is impossible to mobilize for barricades without this getting out|1 Im a transplant recipient Please stay home if youre sick I still have to go to work|0 Leeds fans too From a Leeds fan one thats too scared of corona to riot|0 This is good to hear because I have doubts that it is being done in the US|1 Makes sense Assume they are infected and put them in a 14 day quarantine|0 Very mad and embarrassed|0 Way to early to tell Even if it was the flu doesnt impact people in the same way the flu doesnt require this level of hospitalization Italy has recently had a couple bad flu seasons with around 250 deaths per year they had 348 Covid19 deaths today Its fairly safe to say that even with asymptomatic cases this is going to be significantly different|0 They are testing some immunosuppressive drugs in China to see if this reduces mortality in severe illness|0 These drugs are not ACE2 inhibitors They are ACE inhibitors or ARBs See my other comment|1 The fool still went to work sick in a hot spot It most definitely is his fault|0 Theres a combination of things incoming news that the virus is still on the ascent the realization that containment efforts will increase and the Fed has fired all their monetary policy ammo The silver lining although volatility will continue is that with stocks down 27 from midFebruary the market declines already reflect a recessionary outcome suggesting that the bulk of the stock market pain has been endured Stocks are at their most compelling values in more than a decade All the arrows will soon point north again look for a vigorous economic rebound|0 Minimum they should let you wear bring wear your own if you want to|1 Yes for sure But in this situation it was a couple days before this lady got properly diagnosed and for them to identify and test all the church goes Which I believe would have given the virus time to fully infect said people and for the infection to continue to spread within the church community during that time before the investigation began Thats just my hypothesis at least|1 Did you somehow message everyone in the other sub Lol and Im glad to be herefree speech on reddit is hard to come by|1 Cant live in fear if youre dead fingermemeguymkv|0 I dont trust the WHO Theyve made massive profit but even first world countries struggle to keep things civil rightnow|0 Reposting as the original tweet was deleted due to an error|0 It wasnt banned though Flights were only allowed in certain cities Seattle being one of them|1 Ive been prepped for weeks Im worried about bringing it home to my family so Ive even made preparations of how to seal off part of the house so that my family doesnt come in contact with me if I get it I do have a few N 95 masks at home but those were for my family But I might end up bringing my own into work|0 Just dont drink it Thatll make Portland even weirder|0 Too late now UNs or mother natures pop control is paying offI wonder if the Chinese government should be punished for this|0 I know I have no decision on the matter Ive had the masks before the coronavirus so I havent been hoardibg them for those who need them If I have an endless supply Id donate them Ive got to think about my family too I dont want to take it home to my disabled sister with an autoimmune disease and my mother whos had health issues|0 Tell me about it Im in Australia and a lot of our construction workers are Chinese Nepalese and Malaysian They regularly disappear to visit home They all want to high 5 me every day |0 Yeah everyone seems to be doing the same thing that Australia did a month ago|1 In the mall Only a matter of time before angry mobs burn down mall s|0 Thats a really good point I dont remember that mentality being so aggressive until 911|1 What about the impact of chloroquine treatment in S Korea Has that had any impact on the fatality rates|0 I had a guy filming how empty the store was with four bags of TP four cartons of 18 eggs and six loaves of bread Took a lot not to punch him in the face|0 South Korea has done the most extensive testing of any country has likely tested more asymptomatic patients and those infected had a younger and more female profile than elsewhere as a result of the cult that spread it It also has not had an overwhelmed health service So its CFR of 08 is the current best case scenario With your formula that still results in 316800 deaths Coocooning our elderly and vulnerable should help reduce number but by how much 50 5 We really need to see the assumptions in the governments models to understand why they think herd immunity results in less death overall|0 The irony is that if he and his administration mounted a comprehensive sciencedriven response with the medical experts in front he would be praised by both sides|1 Herd immunity requires around 8095 of the population to either develop immunity or to get a vaccine before a viral infection like this stops spreading A lot of doctors that study infectious diseases believe that at least 6070 are going to get infected before it starts dying down for the summer Angela Merkl stated 70 rate of infection is likely for Germany after meeting with her health Minister and teamBBC articlehttpswwwbbccomnewsampworlduscanada51835856|0 Awesome Thank you|1 The millenials and GenZers who actually live in China are some of the most well read and articulate folks of their generation that Ive come across quite impressive Sure they may have had a huge blind spot when it came to parrotting nationalistic talking points but Im convinced this debacle is contributing to a change in this regard as we speakAs for those who emigrated to Australia if they are in any way similar to recent immigrants to the US I would advise you to see them as a subset they arent representative of the average and tend to have grown up spoiled lazy and super entitled|1 Also in Jersey I agree I feel like school closures are inevitable|1 I think its coming Im in Ohio and our governor is all over this is a very comforting way Oh wait did you ask if the federal government is going to do it Bahahahah no|1 50 of those who got infected in italy have been hospitalised as severe|0 i heard 100 of infected people actually infected themselves like this crazy to think|0 Glad to hear people are preparing|1 You should stop scaring peopleYeahwere closing tomorrow and I finally convinced them to have a staff meeting on tuesday to let us know what the plan is|0 First the MLB and NFL now I need the expressed written consent to talk about coronavirus Damn|0 Ive bought more tea bags Hope that will be enough|1 Starting to feel like this is a giant Petri dish experiment at this point|1 I have the impression that the US government doesnt really care about death numbers As long as consumers can still make purchases and workers still go to work If consumers die theyll be replaced If workers die theyll be replaced Health and citizen safety isnt really a high priority|0 We had bad planning and there are people that need to be held accountable on the other side of this And public health in the US might actually be taken seriously now But these are two different issues and Im not about to confuse our shortcomings with the blight they brought on the world|0 free fake news great|1 Okay but youre missing the most important point in all of this how do I spin this into china bad while simultaneously absolving the US of any culpability I need upvotes after all|0 then the crematorium i worked at for a short while was shit lol|0 Thanks Thats my bad Visa exemption is what they might be getting its been proposed Not VOA Sorry for the mix up httpsforumthaivisacomtopic1148889visaexemptforchineseandindiantouristsproposedtoboosttourisminthailand|0 Exactly what I figured Id rather have it publicly cleared out then have some armed Robin hoods showing up|1 Now this is fear mongering and doomsaying to the absolute next level|0 Yup super bad for Facebook and all other businesses if Coronavirus spreads All the mega corps need to take action on this since it affects their bottom line too Getting goodwill and saving peoples lives aka their customers and long term revenue seems like such a no brainer|1 yep people need to think multiple hops out now I think this also goes to show that bold steps are required|1 Lol no Still gonna be a no from me dawg|0 The same report also mentioned that 9 of hospitalised 200 patients they tested with light complaints such as cough were infected httpswwwrivmnlnieuwsresultaatsteekproef4ziekenhuismedewerkersheeftcoronavirus I wonder if they picked up the virus before or after being admitted|0 That was something that happened with the Black Plague actually It worried people who noticed the trend of people congregating and praying and then falling ill|0 No cash to catch it from But think of how many others used theirs cards at that store and touched the PIN pad to enter their digits Sending you good thoughts|1 To the people defending these paywalls the reason why people are saying this is because its something that literally affects the entire world This kind of information neeeds to be free because creating paywalls just puts a small wall between those who may be disproportionately be affected by this diseaseGo ahead and paywall your other stuff but things regarding the Coronavirus should not be paywalled This isnt a normal news cycle where you can bitch about politics its a fucking pandemic|0 Everybody needs to read this Everyfuckingperson Its important to listen to those who have been through this I appreciate you posting this and hope you crosspost to rcoronavirus|1 Its 1 percent generally not among the young today a doctor dealing with the disease has even come out and said the death rate is over blown and that children and adults are coping really well The doctor even said that what is more likely to kill people is the over blown fear of this disease by people over buying necessary suppliesThe major factor in the deaths in the young is underlying medical conditions which dont and wont get reported in the media about single cases because even the dead have the right to medical privacy And yes the manufacturing in India and China has temporarily reduced which is going to o be a temporary measure to help minimise the impact of this By impact I mean the spread not the mortality rate Its not the end of the world|0 Field hospitals is useless for infection|0 Head of Italys cogoverning Democratic Party tests positive for coronavirus A week ago he conduced a nopanic campaign doing drinks and dinner near the center of the outbreak Here in Italy it really looks like a comedy My fear is that it will soon become a big national tragedy|1 Or u get ppl like these Look the number is bad but is actually better trust me Only Appear to be worsthttpswwwredditcomrWinnipegcommentsfkpcr2fyithingsmayappeartogetworseforacoupleutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare Fyi we dont have lock downs here only university are close kids r still going to school 3 days till spring break I am working 7 to 4 at office at usual s only appears to be bad right|1 So we avoid testing for coronavirus so the numbers of infection on record are low leading to the conclusion there isnt a problem Until there is|0 Sarcasm is easily lost in translation but I gotcha|0 worlds fucked|0 and i was waiting for him to actually close the door lmao cus he opened it with dirty hands|1 Im not panicked just trying to share information|1 this seems fucked|0 httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0195670120300463Coronavirus can remain active on paper for 5 days so if you rotate your masks and reuse them every 6 days it should be safe|1 Think of how few people get the flu vaccine|0 I only say something to those that politicise with stupid comments casting blame on anyone with a different political leaning Sadly most of this rubbish is coming from the extreme leftIf they were good comrades they would be working with everyone else|0 Its not about the crowd its that all your food and laundry is done in one pile pile and that food is delivered from cabin to cabin by delivery people who are often touching infected doorknobs Not only that but the pools People are in pools all day with each other Its not about how close you are to the other person everything about cruises is almost perfectly built to spread viruses Like a damn water petri dish|1 The first rule of any cover up kill the people which were covering up|0 Oh the irony|0 Nice|1 Well first of all youre comparing yourself to dictators How many muslims have you put in detention camps exactly Had anyone shot dead in the streetsBut real talk you guys have been pretty great|1 That is terrifying He and Li Wenliang are real heroes|0 For sure Im a libertarianleaning Republican myself and Im definitely seeing the same bullshit youre seeing Ive had to warn my family and friends that waiting for the government to tell them when to act is not a smart move and could lead to death for themselves or more likely their elderly and sick family members My thought is that we look at the information we have access to now and decide how to protect ourselves and our families now Ive tried to tell them to imagine what they would do if it were something like Ebola or AIDS floating around out there as a thought experiment just to clarify things in their minds I know its not that simple but if someone told you Ebola was at your kids school or AIDS was literally on the shopping carts and in the air at the grocery you might change your actions accordingly and immediatelyand those changes we might make are how we protect our lives in THIS situation Theyre completely valid right now and we can make a lot of them without a gigantic impact to our lives The real questions is where do we draw that lineI could shut my door for 3 months if I wanted to Ive got the suppliesbut is it there yet This is compounded by the fact that once we realize it is in fact there we may be too late to be able to act We might be staring at a sick grandparent in bed at their home with no beds left at the hospital and no prioritized access to the ICU because theyre past the cut off ageI dont know I think the time for left and right is over for now We see whats coming Its burning its way around the globe and if we wait to act as individuals parents and community leaders we could be doomed to die or worse helplessly watch as our family members dieI just dont understand I guess It seems clear to me that the time to do stuff is NOW if theres ever going to be a time to do anything|0 They can also delete this false sense of security comments|1 Sorry for all the grammar and spelling Im quite shaken It was literal abuse|0 18 million in aid this year aloneTake your citizens back now or a minimum 10 years without a handoutWe can drop them off at their shoreline and send them the bill|1 I hope we can laugh too Nothing would make me happier than to look back in 6 months and mock myself But in addition to this subreddit giving out what I believe is mostly accurate info theres just that feeling in the pit of my stomach that Im trying to let guide me Im not in panic mode but Im not going to be one of the people that hold my head in the sand as the whole shit show exploded Stay safe and hopefully we up with some extra groceries and a sore remote thumb from all this|1 In short it is a possibility But public health must operate on what the evidence tells them we cant just assume every rumor is true and operate based on that But I can assure you that we are collecting data on whether or not these cases are due to asymptotic carriers through contract tracing Hope for the best plan for the worst Motto of public health|1 Its odd because he had very obvious symptoms for a long time like Jan1012th but was only officially diagnosed on Feb1st At that point he was already struggling to breathe without a firm diagnosis people cant get official treatments and thats how you get many people passing away without an official diagnosis I think they began real treatments on him too late|0 Its starting to relax over in china but in the rest of the world its only getting started|1 That is a great way to rephrase what i said into a more communicative phrase |1 You edited your comment And disingenuously Just FYI all of the over 500 Vancouver Coastal Health buildings have the placard of Vancouver Coastal Health So by your logic theyre all called Vancouver Coastal Health Im not trying to be an ass but look youre just demonstrably wrong here|0 I am not generalizing This is one case which personally saddens me And her Manager is in her mid thirties|0 I am feeling short of breath too but no cough|0 I have today received a letter from the school notifying me of impending legal proceedings whether that turns out to be a fine or imprisonment I dont know yetIt will get laughed out of court and you could probably counter sue The same for any comapny that refuses to pay sick leavessp for self isolation|0 Grumble grumble grumble Yeah thats nice too|1 Note I am not a doctorThe theory would be roughly this The virus works by taking over a cell and producing copies of itself Your body attacks both the freefloating virus and the cells it has taken over The body needs to kill it faster than it replicates If it starts with enough copies then it has a big head startThis one kills you by infecting alveoli in the lower lungs Your body attacks those cells which effectively kills your own lungs If your body is not already winning by the time it reaches your lower lungs you are in big troubleBut if you start with a smaller number of virions your body has less catching up to doOn the other hand its also possible that virus began in his lungs so he never had a chance I guess that could happen if you breathe it in deeply rather than just getting getting it in your noseBut again I am not an expert and would happily be corrected Im reading tons because I am afraid this is going to kill me in a few weeks because of my risk factorsExcellent description here MedCram channel httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvU7F1cnWup9M|0 1 Antibodies are something developed by your adaptive immune system after encountering a pathogen you have them for life2 The word youre searching for is pandemic3 Cite something or stfu its obvious you dont know what youre talking about|1 Perfect thank you|1 OK BOOMER|1 Oh were big fucked|0 Iran has probably the worst and most contagious of the two recently discovered mutationshttpstwittercomglobaltimesnewsstatus1235094882915471365s19Paper in the tweet comments|0 Enter player 2 Florida Man Molests the virus with the power of alligators|0 Fuck Corona virus Soon|0 Thailand is really far lol Id probably just go to Indiana where my parents live|1 If it goes like Australia you wont be able to go out AT ALL|1 The fact that this is downvoted is ridiculous Its simply a fact we dont have massive death rates at the moment Every hospital has to report deaths and we dont have that death spike It goes against the narrative of the momentThis is a terrible time to use a crisis to generate blame but the Bernie crowd cant be reasoned with Its been political from the onset and Trump has countered by spreading misinformation and now classifying information A political treuce is needed but it will never happen a month after impeachment and at the height of the primaries Its a shameI dont think Trump has hamstrung the CDC the way Reddit portrays it We have a government agency meant to control disease this is literally their entire purpose for existence If they have the resources to fuck around in some jungle fighting Ebola 8000 miles away then they damn well better be prepared for a problem at home The government agencys ineptitude is inexcusable and that should be the focus not politicsAnd for people claiming that Trump shut down the response team here it is It still existshttpswwwcdcgovncezidwhatwedoourtopicsrespondingtooutbreakshtml|0 Additionally its irrational to expect people will act rationally in many many cases possibly a majority they will not Some people may come straight from Wuhan and start feeling sick only to continue attending work and school because its probably just a cold or even if they suspect it is more out of fear that it is the virus Some people myself included dont attend doctors unless extremely ill as a rule Im still going to workschool with the sniffles sneezes or even a low fever if I feel ok unless I have good reason to think its something super contagious or dangerous Im going to need to be experiencing serious symptoms before I even think about seeing a doctor and even then it will be my family doctor who may or may not recognize that something more serious is occurring immediately Assuming every person who gets a fever and sore throat and chest congestion instantly runs to a medical professional and then honestly answers every question they ask is not rational at all Many people will get this sickness have mild symptoms and just keep doing what they are doing without ever questioning it infecting many more people along the way beforeif they ever seek treatment|0 maybe the government will take it seriously now|0 Exactly In some places isnt it illegal to have unprotected sex with someone if youre HIV positive if youve lied to that person about your HIV status Similar thing|1 I dont live in Quebec but in Toronto this amount would just about cover the rent on an apartment which has gone up to about 2000 for a brand new lease now Is it better than that under the Quebec cost of living|1 Our government was captured by corporate interests long ago|1 I just sent one of these articles to my dentist This information is great to have available|1 Theyre waiting until after the primary election just like Michigan|1 and there it is at 14100 he starts explaining coronaviruses spread in an airborn small particles fashion rather than droplets larger greater than 10 micrometer particles He was speaking about coronaviruses in general the 4 human coronaviruses previously studied CDC said though later on TV locally just a few minutes ago though that this had not been established yet for this particular novel coronavirusI will await the WHO and CDC final statement this doc was going to meet with WHO later todayWhat I dont understand isif it has not been established for this virus and if the previous 4 known human coronaviruses spread by airborne fashion why were the chosen methods of containment used those for droplets and fomites Maybe thats why their curves of containment have not worked as expected he says this at 4230 in the video|1 There isnt enough tests available is what is happening with the US most likely And its not just a deficiency in resources testing reagents kits equipment etc its likely also a lack of time and trained technicians available|0 it is airborne im just saying the easiest method to contract it is by touching things and then your faceeven people who claim they didnt touch anything are likely mistaken your hands are almost always touching something seldom are they just floating in the air enter a room by touching the door sit down at a table by pulling the chair out rest your hands on the desk grab a cup of coffee your hands dont float through the airyes this virus is airborne but the EASIEST way to get it is by hand to face contact everything you touch has been touched by 1000 people keep your hands away from your face and wash frequently you will reduce your risk significantly|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Are you a real retard or are you fucking with us|0 Secrets and liesWhat a shame I dont hold ill will against the people in China I could see all kinds of other countries potentially doing a similar thing|0 Wow Somehow Someway They make Trump look human|1 Ill give him credit if true this is very good and smart|1 Thats if the cops are not all sick but you probably have your own firearm so you can protect yourself|1 a politicians if you think they did a bad job vote em outb doctors giving advice to the government well in my experience if they can justify their actions not a lot Even experts make mistakes sometimes|0 Now this might just be because I am a 61 360 pound man who likes wearing black and walks as stated by others like I am on the prowlbut when I wear a mask and safety glasses no one comes up and says its weird takes pictures of me or otherwise complains x200BI was at a frys today and no one was wearing makes I mean NO ONE Not even the people coughing|0 Cover up definitionThe only thing the current US government is capable of|1 yeah so declaring pandemic would help devloping countries fight this virus|1 Without bothering to read your essay it seems you took a very specific meaning from my vague post that China should be held responsible on some level whether that be from their own people or other countries now that they seem very intent on playing the blame gameI never said we shouldnt hold our own leaders responsible not that you have any idea where Im from which makes your comment kind of moot|1 This will probably be buried but You Should KnowThis is true of all infectious diseases pretty much everywhere at any time|1 Authorities havent failed China seems to have succeeded in stopping the virus Other countries are also taking huge measuresThe WHO gives advice to countries not so much to individuals What do you expect them to tell youSure get ready Nothing will happen with this virus but you should always be prepared If this is what finally woke you up to that fact great|1 I watched a video of people fighting over freaking toilet paper The hell if we arent stocking up before it gets crazy My state doesnt even have confirmed cases and stores are already rationing|0 Haha its early labor The Dr sent us home until contractions are 3 mins apart so we got time to distract ourself I got her a Lego set we finished earlier|1 How sad most one be to do something like this i know hand sanitizer is not the healthiest thing for your skin but if it at least kills most bad bacteria then you would need it but this one guy hoarding loads of hand sanitizer for no reason is just stupid|0 Just looked this up and yeah seeing about 25 of infected killed with spanish flu Ok now Im worried Enough reddit for todayBeen worried about a spanish flu like situation in todays worldhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSpanishflu|0 It would be unethical for him to tell citizens to isolate themselves if theyre at risk and not do it himself His wife is being testedI dont know how you can see fault here lol|0 Remember Its just a fluPeople supporting the mediagovernments to downplay things this is what theyre creatingNow it will be a headache to trace all the places hes been to doctors hospitals etc then track all people who they might have infectedIf we hadnt have this bullshit of its just a flu people with early flu symptoms could identify under safe circumstances and limitstop the epidemic|0 Fuck old people I just wanna go out and drink amirite|0 you want a reminder not to touch your face wear dirt cheap disposable gloves Does the job much better than a mask |1 Imagine if you were a scriptwriter and had come up with this scenario for a TV pilot last year youd have been laughed out of the exec office|1 I read that as well they went for hours not drinking a thing and not being able to go to the toilet So apart from being tired you are most probably hungry thirsty|0 Do you think we need to stock up water Surely our water supply will be ok|1 Worst thing is herd immunity probably wont even work for this I genuinely hope Boris catches it and it ends up severe Fuck him|0 Im not sure on our protocol if it has to be a N95 or just a simple face mask|0 37 thats so depressing|0 Im not sure I think the money filters through ownersmanagers Some have been known to withhold tips I dont know how often that happens so I prefer to tip in cash so they get it But it they would prefer the apps or site Im ok with tipping that way|1 Does that work with seasonal flu I believe it doesnt How are we sure it will work with COVID19 as it mutates|0 Haha this is funny because their bumbums are covered in poopoo due to an unexpected deficit of pressed trees|1 Its not really fittest and strongest Its richest and bestconnected|1 I wish I had it in me Looking at the edit history its actually been there since 0943am this morning and hasnt been removedreadded since|1 Public transport churches schools restaurants cinemas etc all involve close social distance oneonone contact distances may be different in NA but groups of people carry a higher risk|0 I feel bad for others who are on foodstamps as it is not a thing you can begin this type of preparation on|0 How about civil lawsuits by customer and employees|0 In canada we just got a letter sent home from the school Saying it is out there be aware educate yourself with these websites But there has been no cases in Alberta so dont stress too much Summed up in my words Yet from what I have read there has been cases in BC Ontario Not to mention how fast it has spread in other countries of the world I feel like the government is trying to prepare us without saying its a epidemic|1 Would be a good google doc so we could access updates|1 Not trolling question What if someone said fuck it and jumped off the boat when a close swim to shore Would they capture said person and stick them on the boat again Do you go to jail but gtfo of there It almost seems like a good option if you could get the jump under 100ft|1 I keep hearing that things like toilet paper and hand sanitizer are selling out but each time I go to the store its all fully stocked Im in Van|1 As an orangutan I take offense to that statement|0 Fortunately I think the fatality rate under good care is going to be more in the region of 37 times worse than the flu That is still very bad especially given that we dont have vaccines or existing immunityIm concerned about society about vulnerable groups relatives and the economy but the thing that really makes me worry is the political destabilization this all may cause which may leave room for militaristic opportunism and a world spiralling towards chaos|0 Yeah it is and what socialism we have is something I personally dont think is the best way to go about it I know every country has it on some degree which is inevitable but weve crossed the line long ago and have swung too far left in terms of social welfare programs and what not|1 Canada should join in UBI for all Its time it always has been but now is the right time to start it because the economy is already interrupted|0 It reminds me of when people ooh and aah over the DJIA loosing a bunch of points rather than looking at the percentage of decrease To the OP I appreciate your intent but the reality is that according to every credible epidemiologist Ive read listened to Covid19 has only just begun But yes were grateful for every survivor reported or not|1 Ok youre in charge of something now Get this guy a clipboard|1 Fuck In Lincoln but go through Omaha fairly frequently Thats a really dumb call for buffet And 40k people is enough to utterly clog up Omaha that weekend its an avoid the area at all costs day even in a normal year|0 French here We would like to help but France is taking the same path as Italy I hope this plague ends soon or the EU is screwed No one to catch the other as Europe is for now the epicenter of the virus|0 Thanks I come here daily to look at your numbers|1 Awww thats nice|1 So great time to get an awesome deal on a vacation then|1 Indian res have different rules Ive heard They potentially might even be able to stay open regardless of what Inslee says Ill bet they close on their own but who knows All of this is so crazy|0 And lowers the curerate|0 Stay the fuck away from me Florida|0 Wow Stonks I guess|1 Yeah I have no idea what was that person thinking Death is death and everyone should mourn how they will instead of criticizing others|0 Yes and common sense|1 Yep look at the downvotes This shouldnt be us vs them but it is important that we are all critical of the different ways that all governments are handling the situation Of course for the Chinese propagandists the idea of being critical of ones government is unthinkable|0 It kills you in 5 days But it takes you 3 weeks to recover|0 It was bad two years ago in the western US We had fires in Canada Washington Montana Oregon and California No matter which direction the wind blew from you got heavy smoke The sun looked like the moon some days|0 No offense but why do you think you know more than the multiple extremely distinguished epidemiologists that are heading the UKs response Theyre literally world leaders in this stuff having worked in various countries to tackle successfully Ebola Italy is not a particularly relevant case study due to a bunch of reasons First off kissing hello is culturally the norm Thats a vector to spread Secondly their yearly tourist count is literally double the UKsThirdly its an extremely popular destination for tourists from ChinaFinally the UK and Italy had their first confirmed case on the exact same day 31st of Jan The UKs spread is much slower than Italys Italy is an outlier in the EU not the norm|1 A grassroots movement can save thousands of lives when theres no leadership at the top We can do this|1 Mad respect and shout out to these states I believe Arizona as well yes I feel as if this gives hope in the eye of local government taking action into their own hands aside from waiting for Washington DC or the CDC to give a solution on the matter This brings great joy to ones heart to see states taking action Texas what are you doing Oh Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo and SXSW Great idea|1 Prison Sentenced for 45 years too but only served 8|0 When I read about super spreaders I always assumed it was superassholes who COUGH fucking everywhere without covering their mouth Some people are just like that and I find it revolting with or without the pandemic What kind of fucking moron doesnt know theyre spreading their germs that wayI was at the supermarket about 1 month ago and I crossed some worldclass asshole seemingly Chinese I should add who was coughing around repeatedly I first noticed him by sound big cough He was like 15 meters away so I changed my way to another alley Then I noticed him again around the cashiers area Fucking coughing around him Literally A tall guy I should had when he felt like coughing he just did chin up spreading droplets to the farthest extent I even considered the hypothesis that he was doing it on purpose We were lucky he didnt stand in our line but I was in shock that such a piece of human garbage could behave like that in a time of a pandemic Spreading around whatever was laying in his lungs If this asshole had the coronavirus you can be sure he infected other people on that day 100 fucking sure|1 Question if someone had a SARS case back in 2004 and recovered are they more immune to covid19 or are they more likely to get it I feel like I know the answer but just wondering if there were any reports on that|1 i mean that cases are starting to pop up in the USA and local government deems it OK to selfisolating this is not the way to contain a pandemic|1 Getting back to Coronavirus Guess what It does NOT care what political system you live under To anthropomorphize though it would much rather have originated in the United States rather than China All it wants to do is survive and it will do so through you its host Any political system that makes it easier for it to survive it prefers Coronavirus does not care what you believe in or what you think is important|1 Expect a bunch of mad Karens who have to rear their children for extended amounts of time already all over my FB|0 He was given the all clear after 2 negative tests|0 Thats amazing What constituency do you live in if you dont mind my asking|1 If donating less than 1 of your annual salary is stepping up then thats a really low bar|0 Lol exactly this I told my wife that if either of us have it then the other person definitely has it too|1 This is political influence via humanitarian aid The vacuum left by the US has allowed for China to step in and warm relations and drive influence with the EU Its a humanitarian power play but hopefully one that helps folks get better|1 Who are you ruling over if everyone is dead|0 The CDC really needs to relax its guidelines for testing as well I am deeply disappointed and very outraged at how the US has handled this|0 Democrats have already worked on and proposed thatTwo congressional Democrats are pushing for passage of new legislation that would guarantee workers paid sick leave as a means of containing the coronavirushttpswwwmcclatchydccomnewspoliticsgovernmentcongressarticle240959346htmlGot a source on Trumps thing|0 thanks for the explanationI always figured vaccines were quite routine Put the virus in some kind of base inject it it worksI dont really understand the reasons for it to go wrong Is there more than one way to make a vaccine some better and some worseI figured it was a pretty standarized process by now|1 I am Italian and I was so pissed at the reaction to that UK decisionIf you actually listen to the whole thing and not just the snippet and think about it its not that different from what weve been doingWe are definitely close to the peak and in that phase where two weeks even tho everyone is expecting and preparing for at least a month actually do protect the more vulnerableThat being said do not underestimate peoples reaction in terms of being able to put up with it this is not a politician asking you to pay taxes and then embezzling half of it this is not a govt limiting your freedom of speech or liberties this is the only way to fight this thing and render it manageable for the healthcare systemPeople will understand and put up with it they did here in Italy they can do it in the UK as well|1 Wanna make it more fun Get a start on crypto and hold onto your butts|1 Seriously NYC has the largest Chinese population outside of China Why does that confuse you The Chinese people in NYC are mostly immigrants not expats Lots of them are poor and cant even travel overseas Most Chinese immigrants rarely if ever go back to ChinaFurthermore NYC has one of the oldest Chinese American populations Lots of them dont even have anymore ties to ChinaChinese expats or students on the other hand do Theyre not here to settle down theyre here to get a job or education and then they leaveSo back to your claim does NYC have the largest Chinese population that has ties to China I would be surprised if it did You dont have giant universities where lots of mainland Chinese students go to Most of your Chinese are either poor andor dont travel to China for various reasons such as having no more ties to China Is it any surprise that a place such such as UW Madison which actually does have a large population of mainland Chinese people got the virus before NYC|0 Yes he is warehouse picker his job should be fairly secure for now I suspect if needed he would be able to reduce rent but would struggle to pay bills with no rental income Most landlord should be able to waive rent and a many will Strangely the landlords who could most easily miss a payment are most likely to evict as they see it as a business only Retired people with second home would be stupid to evict as in the current situation a line would not form I suspect many will reach an agreement|0 YawnLame troll is lame Funny thing is youre only trolling yourself With all your downvotes and deleted posts you lie that you didnt deleteAt least I hope youre trolling if you are honestly this dumb and lie about not deleting posts and think people will actually believe you then I feel bad for you dude That must suck|0 The stretch people will still make to name drop Trump is crazy It isnt 2015 anymore lmao give it a rest|0 This is all natural selection at work The stupid people that dont prepare or think this is nothing will be the first victims out there Please prepare but I assume most of you have already|0 And then she will be exposed to the virus to see if she can fight and recover |0 Why do I keep seeing officials continuously wearing masks but saying that they are not effective when they are asked on TV |0 Bare in mind Vietnam also seems to be getting hit by this based off that smallscale quarantine If things continue that could worsen but for now i dont think its an issue|0 First mistake using the official reddit app|0 Personal rights dont let you be a threat to othersThats what every country including China believes The devil is in the details specifically what constitutes a threat to others|0 We have Spotify and Itunes these days Go home and be safe|1 Well you are not staying inside from the pictures I see on twitter The shit is going to get waaaaaaay worse if you as a country dont start to follow the rules|0 I know you are agreeing with me but calling it cynical is quite interesting It is impossible not to be with this admin and state of world generally But we shall carry on|1 So workers are paying back to themselves Very clever|1 A March to sadness|0 Might as well all go on strike if were staying home anyway|1 I like to think of all the snow birds that catch it in the next couple of months then decide to go back to their northern homes for the summer while taking the virus with them|1 Id be willing to shop for someone without family support if I were aware of someone who needed it|0 Dude killed someone over a chicken sandwich a couple months ago This is gonna be bad|0 Have everyone teleworkcapable stay home So many Fed workers are telework ready and have stresstested systems ready to go for emergencies Right now there is nothing official out there telling us to stay home unless we already have Coronavirus at which point it would be too late Also if the Fed mandated max telework it might make other organizations take it more seriously|1 Vietnam has 2 more cases confirmed 12 in totalSource local news just broadcasted on TV few mins ago I cant hear it more detail h2h to native or imported cases due noisy environments childrens and adults talking at the same time but 12 confirmedEdit now with source Pls use google translate if you arent native H2h to native cases related to imported cases infected vietnamese imported from Wuhan httpswwwvietnamplusvnboytexacnhancothem2caduongtinhvoincovtaivinhphuc621889vnp|0 In all seriousness this will cause regimes to fall Maybe not something like that in the US but wouldnt it be interesting if these politicians that care more about cruise ship industry than thousands of lives night have to worry about their own It would be a change of perspective for them Id wager The irony is that because of the nature of this disaster people organizing would be particularly dangerous|0 I dont think wed have anywhere near enough of them ready to go|1 They took way too long trying to come up with a name to fit the regulations and by now we all know its place of originyknow unless theyre gonna start abducting us for calling it the wuha|1 Isnt this just an example of number 6 listed in this posthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsexe552coronavirusfaqmisconceptionsinformationfromautmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfIt is true that the death rate reported by China is heavily misleading But this is NOT due to an active coverup There are 2 main structural reasonsThis is primarily due to the structural method of how China records deaths on their certificate It is established policypractice in China to record the final cause of death rather than all existing conditions and overlapping factorsFor example if a say 85 yo patient in the US with diabetes and an existing heart condition gets nCoV is admitted in the hospital is confirmed with nCoV then dies of heart failure he is recorded as dying of nCoV AND heart failure with other complications However if the same patient dies in China he would only be recorded of dying by heart failureThis is a wellknown issue with China and comorbid diseases I dont agree with it I wouldnt do it but I dont run China But this is not a new method they made up to try to hide deaths here its just the way its done This has led to jokes in the epidemiology community that its impossible to die of flu in China because they basically dont record any deaths where the patient has flu See here this recent article from the Global Times which is one of Chinas statesponsored newspapersThis is not something even China is really trying to hide They just tell us sorry our doctors just do things this way we have no interest in changing itLike this isnt some crazy new information we only discovered now This excerpt is from the 2nd most upvoted post in this subs history which was posted only 6 days ago|0 Here is an interesting way to think of itBy worrying about something you are essentially putting yourself through it two times I would advise you to stay alert not anxious as it might affect the way you think and actKeep your cool try to smile tell a joke|1 Cant count as coronavirus deaths if you dont test them for coronavirus Also dont discount claims that Trump is the real victim and that its all a liberal conspiracy to make him look bad|0 The left has much in common with the CCP Youd think that would be cause for them to reflect and reconsider their position but no|0 Quite possible nothing will save us No system would have efficiently allocated 1 million ICU beds with respirators certainly not Medicare for all The question is which will handle it better and withstand the onslaught the longest and most effectively Remains to be seen|1 How are the cruise lines not insured for situations like this|1 So not lovely people Spades|0 I think It depends on your employer In my state nc if you work for the government or healthcare industry you basically get almost free insurance with you having to pay barely anything Anyone else pays out their ass for premiums so employers pick the cheapest options so you end up with terrible high deductible coverage Some employers cover premiums and others make the employee pay it And the premiums go up every year My employer covers most but not all the premium ever since the premiums skyrocketed Id prefer to pay more in taxes than to not have to come up with 8000 suddenly to meet my out of pocket from having an impassable kidney stone removed last year Or having to pay 100 a month for medicine I take that used to cost 3 then insurance suddenly decided it was more expensive now|0 Not a Catholic myself but I liked one aspect of the messaging that the Catholic Church seems to be using I dont know the original source of this seeing similar wording lots of places but heres how one diocese puts it Those who are sick should be as always encouraged to stay home from Mass and reminded that there is no sin in doing soand in fact it represents an act of charity for the entire parishhttpswwwdmdioceseorgnewsnewschurchesfollowingcdcguidelinesforcoronavirusPeople often feel guilty about skipping church or as we called it worshiping at St Mattress so framing it as a choice to do good for others is a smart way to counteract that|1 Healthcare as a whole is People need to resort to go fund me in order to not be completely bankrupt thanks to a hospital stay|1 Im not really worried about the people at his rallys|1 It takes like 15min to do then its spun for 2hr I heard So 12hours all in makes sense|1 The economy will have to bounce a LOT more when the whole country will be infected and who knows how many people will be dead|0 Haha no Welsh lol|1 I dont know about you but Ive seen GPs Google symptoms and medications in front of me And this is not something that only Ive experienced Ive heard of other people seeing the same thing I dont think less of the doctor because he uses Google he has the training and ability to filter the information he sees Sure your average person wont have the skill to do that but that doesnt mean Googling symptoms is silly|1 Posted suggestions from my Twitter account for StayTheFuckHome Suggestions were spend time with your pets make some espresso and start a fire in the fireplace|0 Not everywhere in China is polluted only the Northern Plain is Wuhan is right outside that region|0 im way too tired to register clever names great job|1 Im just going to assume its bullshit until Mr Campbell says otherwise|0 Well it depends on how much you like your friend Also if they identify as a she and you happen to be a him you want to be careful not to be perceived as mansplaining That wouldnt be a good look as they say What with all the oppressions and so onIn all seriousness its probably a good idea to express concern|1 Pretty soon we will see 300 price tag on masks on Amazon and eBay in the States sigh|1 Ahh this makes more sense thanks|1 In 1918 the second wave peak was 6 months after the first and far worse|0 This is good news people taking this seriously is what will be our saving grace|1 I worry about anyone with a hoarse voice This is because I suspect it went through my family Ofc I have no proof because they wouldnt test Anyway I became hoarse but this was after my fever broke My cough also got worse when the fever went down Which all together isnt helpful or certain but it still makes me wonder when I see a politician or reporter suddenly having voice issues|0 Coronavirus most likely already made its way to florida too What doesnt happen in Florida Superbowl was held here so I really wouldnt be surprised|0 Thanks I am dumb|0 Eh who cares its just a flagNow is not the time to give a F about nationalism |1 The three holes you see in the mask are CCP dick ports so he can suck them every which way|0 Seems weird that Trudeau would deny after his wife has tested postiive though|0 Thankyou for your measured postApparently China is building hospitals in response to the novel coronavirus Is this true Isnt it troubling that Chinas unprepared|1 Yeah most first world countries with competent governments will be swift in their response Im still worried about it hitting the US but at the same time I also have confidence in the US being able to contain it|1 On Sunday my husband and I went to BJs to buy a few things for the coming week for work We went down one aisle and I realized there was no rice None Those huge bags were all gone And that was Sunday in a state that has had no confirmed cases in a not super populated area|0 Interesting|1 Yes and unfortunately some of them still dont believe its that bad I cant help them at this point theyre on their own|0 But if you dont test for it I heard you only have 57 cases no deaths|0 Well the travel ban doesnt go into effect until tomorrow so hopefully theyll improve it|1 I think people who werent concerned a few days ago are starting to pay attention now Im just glad Im like you and have been paying close attention since China locked down Wuhan in January Thats when my spidey senses went into overdrive and I started quietly sounding the alarm bell with family and friends I stockpiled 3 weeks ago on essentials|1 Wow you got me there Thanks fella|1 SurviveEat as much greens as possible start taking multivitamins daily have a ginger shot a day drink green tea or peppermint or anything with immune boosting elementsThats all ive been doing Good luck my friend If it goes tits up see you on the other side First round is on me|1 thank you for your answer i mean i was really relaxed untill i got on reddit My whole thinking was if we wait it out things will get better in the summer but apparently its too early to be that optimistic|1 You should be more concerned if there are no conspiracy theories floating around That would mean those in power are actively shutting down voices that try to speak out against them In that sense you are not getting the full breadth of informationbut only the ones that fit the narrative|0 mortality rates will be different in different countries depending on how good their health care infrastructure is south korea is more developed than china is on average therefore its expected that their death rate will be lower the 35 WHO number is either china only or worldwide average which at this point is mostly china|1 True but shouldnt the virus be spreading freely within those cities and apartment blocks It appears not to be|1 Heres hoping None have worked so far but yes Thank you|1 Welcome to Europe buddy If we get sick we still get our moneys|0 This is a cynical marketing and business move on the art of Uber Eats not a move of compassionSmall restaurants need business to stay in business More importantly Uber Eats needs restaurants in order to stay in business They have a parasitic relationship with restaurantsThis is a cynical marketing ploy by Uber Eats|0 Im going to suggest you spend some time reading what international experts are saying about the UKs plan and what other scientists are saying about it Youre making this comment on a post which is exactly that an actual expert rubbishing the UKs planI get it that you probably think because its endorsed by the British government it must be perfect in every day way and I appreciate its hard to break that mental block|1 Write the hospital that had your baby a letter that includes pictures of your healthy thriving child The NICU nurses dont often know the long term outcome of their patients Seeing one growing up normal can be a huge motivational boost|1 Singapore is too small for the government to lie about or withhold any information on wuhan virus Any significant news or development on the ground would get out quickly through social media channels like Whatsapp Facebook Twitter Insta Telegram etcJust to give an example part of the reason there was such a huge panic buy at the supermarkets was a video of a man collapsing at a railway station Raffles Place MRT circulating on social mediaAll our medical professionals are definitely on social media and will speak up if the government is putting out fake facts or news about wuhanThe only way they could suppress information about wuhan is probably by cutting off the internet but the resulting hit to the economy and loss of confidence both internally and by the global community would have a far larger negative effect than just simply being transparent and engaging the community by giving regular updates about the situation and facts on wuhan virus Tldr not in SG gahmens interests to lie about wuhan word gets out quickly better to engage with community|1 Fun fact there are only 100000 ICU beds in the entirety of the United States|1 Yeah I told my whole family do not gather together during Chinese spring festival a month ago and they were angry with me for not respect the culture and elders A week later they were more scared than me and asked me for masks because they couldnt buy it at stores|0 Well said I disagree with some of it but respect it thanks for taking the time to respond|1 If they lock up the liquor stores people might riot|0 I get this When you read news like this its almost relieving like ahh we will all be fine exceptwe are all going to get a cold then hand a life threatening illness off to those who can not handle it|1 Is this equivalent to raising your arms and sharing energy with Goku to make a spirit bomb|1 He should be arrested|0 Today in a Senate hearing they said to call State Departments of Health This is the number for California 916 5581784|1 You need to prepare now before you cant I made a short video on stuff to stock up on Check it out it may help you httpsyoutubeHrH69Z3uUg|1 Thanks this is the most hopeful answer Ive heard yet|1 Youre seeing it from your cultural lens Im not saying youre wrong but there is another view that they are also bred for food|1 I am in tech and a while back when I was 34 someone referred to me not joking as over the hill|0 If you want more than 2 days a sick note is required or youre in shit|0 70 will be more effective at deactivating the virus water helps|1 Well those tested had been on the ship longer and were exposed earlier so half is to be expected I would guess that fewer than 10 of the entire ship would test positive today However a week from now will be a different story|1 You know when people fuck up really really bad sometimes there is no winning scenario Sometimes problems get so bad your best bet is to just mitigate damages the best you can Sorta Well the house burned down but the 9 year old made it out alive yayNot everything HAS to work out and people need to learn that That thinking is what led us into this mess|0 I feel like I actually look better in my glasses haha they just make it hard to watch TV in bed at night All crooked |1 Thank you for this I literally just got done crying because Im so scared and anxious My hands are cracking because Ive been washing and sanitizing as much as I possibly can Worrying about this to the point of tears isnt healthy for me and I needed to read this|0 I have chronic asthma and am also so upset by how many people dont care if we die Im only 23 and am trying to conceive I just got married We havent even lived our lives yet|0 VR sex is the only way to not get coronavirus Welcome to the future|0 I know its a good thing and useful but still scares the sht out of me |0 South Korea I believe has been the most prolific testers in the world Their fatality rate is seemingly quite low I think that is because they tested anyone even remotely possible of having the virus So their fatality includes mild and asymptomatic cases I would bet making the denominator higher and the fatality lower|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 China is safe now|1 And 6 states are still not testing By Monday this confirmed number will double and by next Friday it will double again Schools in some cities will be closed next week and some airlines may announce layoffs or major flight route cancelations|1 Im tired of hearing people saying this Is the USAChina war the virus was created in a lab and spread out violence kills more but the goverment Is saying we should care more about a virus is a virus designed to target only old adults clearly the people in control are just trying to fix the mess we have worlwide with the pension system|0 They never check the same place twice Theyre systematically testing for weaknesses they remember|0 Not to mention stress weakens your immune system So keeping calm may be one of the best ways to protect yourself|1 Its easy to point fingers at a time like this|1 Im a proud member of the CoronaVirus Infodemichttpswwwtwittercomhopeseekr|1 Im being kicked out of my school and am going to family in Lexington How fucked am I|0 What panic I mean seriously where is there panic|0 Unfortunately I was not prepared Im screwed now My job is shut down|0 My wedding is in mid October I feel like this pandemic will be over by then but still a little worried about the virus lingering in some people Ive got a pretty big guest list too I dont want anyone getting sickMy bridesmaids and I getting together at the end of this month however I may have to cancel that|1 All that the doctors can do is try to treat the symptoms and help your body fight the infection I think most people with covid19 who are otherwise healthy are recovering before the disease starts causing serious damage to the lungs or other organs Im unable to give a tldr but this articlehttpswwwnationalgeographiccomscience202002hereiswhatcoronavirusdoestothebody has some good info thats easy to digest on what the disease does to the body Not sure if there is a better one out there|1 Interesting where are you located Im not having truckers decline loads for being sick Yet But I do feel its a matter of time|0 Does anyone else wonder if these guys are just bugging out for some secure government facility to wait out the pandemic|1 Genius hahahaI had a trip to Egypt to go see the pyramids and I cancelled it|0 Make sure you get permission for it first since it does take up electricity to do so it does have some cost|1 Stop talking and pull the trigger on something for once for fucks sake|0 Honestly there is a mass shortage of N95 masks right now Its been reported that there are only some 40M face masks as of last week Most of it is probably gone now|1 Might Octavehttpswwwgnuorgsoftwareoctave more syntactic compatibility or Scilabhttpswwwscilaborg less be viable alternatives to MATLABTheyre both released under the GPL v3 and v2 respectively so you wouldnt have to worry about obtaining a license to use them are available crossplatform and in a variety of languages|1 UK is no longer in the EU as of January 31st|0 And I am short the market still I will make money off this speech It is just that it completely unsatisfying as I worry about the country Wrong epidemic approach Wrong testing approach Wrong economic responseWhat we are doing isnt even internally logical Why is the UK allowed when it will be open to Europe Why is the stop 30 days and on all goods when alot have zero risk Its just weird|0 Thank you|1 If the virus had started in Greenwich not one person from anywhere in the world would be avoiding white people saying they are more likely to have the virus|0 Im pretty sure I have it Ive incessantly called everyone including 111 3 times this week There are no tests unlessA you have been to a red listed country within the last 2 weeksB you have come into contact with a confirmed caseC you are rich famous or a politician|1 So are you saying it is still not better then MedicaidI didnt say he had good insurance or great insurance I said decent Which is better then none imo|1 That was the funniest thing Ive heard this week You win|1 There were very few tests available at the beginning when the virus just started Nobody knew how much test kits they need and fast tests were still under development The testibg capacity was severely capped much more so than any other place dealing with it at a later time Hence they had to add thousands of clinically confimed casesThe peak in Hubei could be early than what the stats shows due to the backlog but somehow both are capped at around 10k tests|0 Do you have a source for this Ive only seen this in India as an abundance of caution because they absolutely do not have any of the infrastructure for an outbreak especially given oral fecal route and the lack of sanitation|0 Ill blame WHO for being late|0 The Shincheonji which has been accused of being a cult said it had now shut down its Daegu branch and that services in other regions would be held online or individually at homeI have a sourcehttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasia51572137 of a news paper which mentions Shincheonji and it is considered as a cult It has been known as a famous one in Korea|0 big threat since that just means youll be in jail and probably spreading the same virus thats outside of the bars but probably hopefully with direct care Just kinda stupid to start with threats already this will get a lot uglier as people get sicker and or go untreated|0 You know whats worse than looking like a pussy Cancer|0 Wrong direction on that messaging narrative They are simply not clued into what is going on Socalist media and the government bureaucracy is putting them in a bubble All the censorship by the very sophisticated Chinese Communist Party communication and propaganda machines has the elites disconnected and misinformed And then you have their partner the Democratic communist party working on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party interest just like Bush and Mitt pushing the Chinese Communist party agenda Remember the attacks on Tom Cotton Lot a flak means on target|1 Id say it already has but it has shown to be more potent and infectious than MERS middle east respiratory syndrome Sars Severe acute respiratory syndrome and other novel coronaviruses but soon will be much more devastating and will be shown more widely in history books longer in time|0 honestly that is the best idea ive seen on this subreddit Dont forget that we wont have a vaccine for 1218 months so you may want to buy more than 1 video game|1 I wish they told me to cancel three years ago|1 Lol it would be great if some of you read the terms of the lockdown before commenting you all need to start reading sources properly this sub is rife with people who dont bother Businesses can be open from 6am to 6pm under the terms of the lockdown Read a bit before commenting you will have a healthier outlook|1 Huh So I guess this was the wrong week to start sniffing glue|0 Not worth going back to school|0 SoCorona Beer gonna make us some Corona Hand Sanitizer|1 Noticed today that Morrisons have a wide range of powdered sauces for 40p each Kept it simple buying some cheese and some bolognese mix Long string pasta spaghetti is about 20p at aldi that shape is super space saving compared to mostI bought a tin of Ratatouille at morrisons to go with the sauce and pasta but at 1 per tin its quite pricey Would welcome ideas on cheaper places Tinned mushrooms for sauce and pasta also seems a good ideaHaving a hard time finding nonperishable meat without added sauce Tinned steak burgers bm is cheapest come with gravy Meatballs have sauce Got soya bean dehydrated bolognese packets at tesco 1 each so pricey but come with sauce Other than tuna plus pasta and sauce im out of ideasI have some just add water cheddar and tomato flour mix for easy make bread Sold in morrisons but cheaper in aldi if in stock More for your money to buy ready made bread mix and buy separate yeast sachetsIve powdered whole eggs being delivered soon which opens up lots of possibilities Home bargins is selling ghee for 299 per large tub type of cooking butter that doesnt need to be refrigerated till open If flour and sugar can be prepped that makes for some significant cooking ingredients|1 I didnt see anywhere in the article where they declared a state of emergency can I just not read properly|0 the GOP spends a lot of time and effort trying to convince you that giving money to the wealthy is somehow the best thing ever They forget that giving a UBI or Negative Income Tax to the poor means they pay their rent with it and their landlord buys his groceries and the grocery store pays their employees and so on and so forth Whereas Joe Billionaire probably forgets that thousand in his tuxedo pants|1 I agree that the CDC has absolutely dropped the ball on this and is continuing to do so That also applies to state and local public health systems that still insist on following CDCs ridiculously restrictive testing guidelines It does seem like American public health experts are sleepwalking us into a crisis and are not clearly and honestly communicating with the general public This wait and see approach is allowing widespread community infection to occur right nowHaving said that we all know that the response could have been a lot more proactive and aggressive if Trump had not intentionally gutted the nations pandemic response infrastructure Thats all water under the bridge I guess but he does share a significant amount of blame here|0 Im probably giving away my age but its a reference to a great scifi book The Mote in Gods Eye from the mid 70s themes of overpopulation and scarce resources with a 3armed race of aliens They call their third hand the gripping hand and it was frequently used in hackernerd culture in the 80s in contexts like these when weighing three things|1 Its only a surge of positive cases if theyre actually getting tested|1 If you think you can freely talk on this sub you havent tried to talk about everything yet|1 I was about to say Its not all that impressive but then I realized how much censorship these Corona groups have been going through This os like my sixth group and changed my mind We rock|1 There was a reason people were anyone but trump Just need more of those people this time around Im no fan of the GOP overall but nobody else would be fucking it up this badly|0 there is no way they have a 5 minute molecular level test If you read the articles at the drive through they check you for breathing issues and fever They can take a sample but there is no way they can test it that fast|0 Adult children have no responsibility for their actions if their parents also misbehaved Government is not our parents Our parents were our parents and we are our own individuals now that we are adults|0 Theres other posts on Reddit from early in the year when it was still very quiet In the chinaviruswuhanvirusworldnews reddits Ill try to dig up the one with all the links and the timelines From way way early stages of it httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3052495coronavirusfarmorelikelysarsbondhumancellsscientistssay|0 We spend summer indoors like people up North spend winters indoors|1 Thats a good question for Biomed engineering I bet they have a subreddit|1 Lol|1 even if everyone in the would catches it assuming a 2 death rate thats 14000000 deaths worldwidedont see the big deal|0 Wow People like you|1 Thats measures which are possible in both phases but more typically phase 5 not phase 6 measures if you use that terminology In phase 5 you close schools you close businesses you quarantine you restrict travel you monitor and trace clusters and try to contain them and so on while at the same time you prepare the medical system Containment and delay and preparation for a likely soon impact of an epidemic Phase 6 is ending many of those measures again because it is community based spread in many places and most of the susceptible population will get it anyway estimates of numbers are enough tracing doesnt help anymore quarantines are not really useful anymore because it could be everywhere international travel and businesses and so on are needed and need support to keep things going schools are in general kept open so that parents can go to work and the impact on the workforce is lowerWe stop talking about it like its something that might happen and start talking about whats actually happeningPhase 5 already means it is highly likely and without intervention pretty inevitable But yes NPIs start to kick in NonPharmaceutical InterventionsThey already do by far most that is done and could be done currently is NPIsCountries could currently implement more of them and if you take the influenza pandemic publications analogous they could implement more such measures in phase 5 than phase 6|0 Yes I remember hearing about the school I had a therapist who came from Italy last year and was sick for a while after she came back she said she didnt know what happen but it worst than the flu|0 Interesting perspective Thanks|1 its always amazing to see how far it lights up the night in that part of the country|1 I personally know several people who are sick but not sick enough to head to the doctor and so no one has really been testedI got a recorded call from LA Countys health department last night that said if you only have a fever and cough dont call your doctor only call if youre having breathing issues So they dont even want to test sick people unless its getting severe We are flying SO blind|0 Masks such as surgical masks do not fully prevent infection but they reduce it considerably There even have been scientific studies about the effectiveness of such masksIn this case the US is trying to avoid a shortage of masks for med Professionals due to everyone buying those They are simply unprepared|0 They are lucky sorry terrible use of the word to be the first ones sick The rest of us will be sick when the hospitals are full and no one can help A global crisis is here|0 They get paid sick leave but there will be nothing to offset the lost hours Drivethrough only will mean less staffing and hours are going to be cutThis isnt just related to fast food a good amount of of the whole service sectorminus grocery stores and pharmacies is going to have less business and cut hours Lets hope it stays to about two weeks or things will get bad for that group|0 Ill pm you a post link from Facebook|0 I would think ankle bracelets and guards would do the trick|0 Ill cast you but first I need your agents name and are you a member of SAG|0 Well said|1 Weve got a disease outbreak that disproportionately affects the elderly what should we doLets cut the tax that pays for Medicare|0 Face value comprehension skills there mate For example End poverty Up until 2017 they actively advocated denying the third child born in poverty the right to tax credits or child benefits Now they hide behind weasel wordsI wont brother waiting for you to say well dont have kids if youre poorCircumstances change One minute youcam be rich the next you can be poor Remember the global recession Yeah such irresponsible parentingUnplanned pregnancies happen Twins and triplets are a thing|0 Both of those countries have a mix of public and private health services A national public health system that provides free care to all and a supplementary private insurance industry where you can basically pay to skip the lines|1 httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPanicdisorderStay calm|1 There are also worker owned cooperatives where the workers own a share and get a dividend|1 Its okay I checked his profile he thinks you are insane|0 Needed a whistleblower to expose it in the first place And those images of a medical personnel with machine guns on the street is scary|0 Isnt it weird that Turkey isnt on the map yet Except that almost all neighbouring countries has at least one case cities like Istanbul has 18m people with tourists coming from all over the world|1 Announced faulty tests last weekhttpswwwpoliticocomnews20200220cdccoronavirus116529Testing all flulike symptoms havent yet startedhttpswwwthevergecom202022421147157coronaviruslabsurveillanceflucdcvirustrackingtestingIt seems certain cities have the capability on a casebycase basis but that testing all with flulike symptoms in these cities is still delayed|0 Lol believing the misinformation that Americans send their parents to nursing homes to not be with them Lol Nursing homes are very expensive A lot dont save up enough for retirement to be in a nursing home Its a funny stereotype Ive seen from my latin American side of the family about Americans but its far from common|1 its not hard to figure out where and why these reports of US not being prepared are coming from|0 That is potentially true but it doesnt make sense from a biology standpoint unless the virus is mutating Mutation may not be a bad thing however I believe that often mutation results in less virulent strains This virus is known to be somwhat stable but I think as of yesterday there is evidence of two strains going around one worse than the other so the double infection may be because of this|0 By recommending everyone stay at home the spread of the virus will slow down which will lessen the impact on hospitals which wont have enough ventilators or ICU beds for those most vunerable if everyone gets sick at once People are most likely to start dying if the hospitals are at capacity|0 I dont care if they go out of business paying their employeesQuick Get this guy a job in management stat|0 Do you have an unpopulated greenwaytrail within medium driving distance Maybe the occasional drive for a long walk down a wooded path with very few people would help with being stircrazy|1 Some slightly more appropriate mood music for this thread Bloodhound Gang Roof is on Fire was a bit too farhttpsyoutubehTSTFPVaE4t58|0 Come on its not like you can just drive across state borders|0 Im so so sorry Im due next month and lying awake worrying about having to experience something like this|0 Worried in the sense of being on top of their brief rather than panicking They are testing those suspected and those in close contact with know cases|0 I think because coronavirus can refer to the common cold or flu It refers to a class of viruses For instance all chickens are birds but not all birds are chickens Personally I like calling it the China Flu|0 2 death rate does not include these four as they were never diagnosedObviously you can extrapolate further|0 yasssssssss D i guess its time to dust my oculus off and see if no mans sky is still a giant turd lol|1 Hot dry and lots of direct sun shrugWhile its not the cleanest city environmentally its fairly hostile to viruses|0 Theres no testing kits available|0 I dont know if this is the place to ask but I was just in Walmart KY and several people were saying the governor closed schools for the entire state Is this true|1 Nice|1 Youre welcome If you could take a second please sign this petition put together by the community and some of us as workers We want Amazon to provide greater protections to us especially in the event of an outbreak at an FC httpswwwwarehouseworkerscaindexhtmlfbclidIwAR1Nlcrk1o4wfIIaWFPZrAkislXXybq3gX0pMNX07HgLzc4P4ufrcVmR0actionspref625923719392204661f02httpswwwwarehouseworkerscaindexhtmlfbclidIwAR1Nlcrk1o4wfIIaWFPZrAkislXXybq3gX0pMNX07HgLzc4P4ufrcVmR0actionspref625923719392204661f02|1 Does this have something to do with them desperately wanting to reopen factories and borders Are they going to eventually have people dropping dead on production lines Fresh corpses at workstations wearing ID badges with fresh tea on their desks Weekend at Bernies styleThis is fucking insane Theres a virus in your body but you dont have it When its this contagious Maybe the CCP figures their country is in such disarray that they dont care if they fuck their neighbors and everyone else Its not like doing totally heinous shit is unusual for the CCP|0 They should get paid more Fortunately theyre being paid more and more by the month They get paid more with a tighter labor market The labor market gets tighter with more jobs Jobs come because labor is cheap Then labor gets less and less cheap and those jobs go to another poorer place Some other more skilled jobs will pop up in the place of those that have left And so onThats how our planet has seen a recordbreaking shift away from poverty in the last century by reducing barriers to trade and allowing capital to ship jobs overseas Whats been bad for American labor has been incredibly good for the global poor and whats incredible is that Americans still enjoy one of the bestpaid labor markets on the planet People want to hire us Just not for massproducing simple plastic widgetsInstead of moving jobs around you could also do this by simply paying more for things from those places too Good luck with that campaign though If people were willing to pay more for the same shit then those factories would still be in America and laborers in China would still be dirt poor|0 From an academic paper that discused this Ill edit the source in when I dig it up the virus would be harder to treat with antivirals because the drug has to cross the blood brain barrierEdit someone else already mentioned this but httpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoipdf101002jmv25728utmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfutmsourceshare|0 I had been making stay awake posts on Facebook since Feb 7th and updating where to find masks Got a bunch of longwinded reasons why I was wrong to be prepping for just a flu Anywho I am ready I doubt they are I even got a bidet to lessen the toilet paper usage|0 Yeah I think that is a good idea TBH I dont know what this bill is proposing but it sounds like it needs to be quick and decisive I would hope something like this would pass but allow the businesses time to plan for it and price it in|1 I came down with a sickness that hit very hard fast a week back or so large fever that hit within hours but i wasnt coughing much so i assumed i was okay Meanwhile the rest of my family all fell ill at the same time And many friends i know too i think rates are probably higher than we know Im not saying I had it but im also not saying i had adequate options to find out|1 Didnt stop it in Iran and they are in a fucking desert also it has hit Saudi Arabia UAE etc dont believe this bullshit it wont go away during the summer this isnt seasonal|0 I think its about to for a lot of people Most casinos are laying off people and encouraging time off and giving unpaid vacation time mine is doing optional temperature checks at employee entrance and auto sending home anyone with a temp 100 I wouldnt be surprised if the Casinos and resorts are ordered to shut down completely before the end of the month luckily theres so few confirmed cases here I hope our local government can take these drastic steps earlier rather than later Email Schieve and Sissolak I did|1 If people cant self quarantine and the only thing stopping reckless behavior is a test then no wonder stuff will spread|0 China will just test them on prisoners and then distribute the finished product if they survive This is admittedly pure speculation but it makes sense if you consider their organ harvesting and also how theyre going full lockdown because they dont plan for it to last very long|0 Lets not forget how good our healthcare is and on top of that allow more and more people to fly from anywhereDarwin award for 2020 goes to httpswwwredditcomrcanadacommentsbheig4thisisthefaceofthehealthcarecrisiswomanhttpswwwredditcomrcanadacommentsbheig4thisisthefaceofthehealthcarecrisiswomanhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDxTC7uV4ZbghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvDxTC7uV4Zbg|1 Second there is a multibillion dollar income about to be earned from the manufacture of the flu vax This beyond being a minor matter China has not wanted to release any of the virus or any details of the virus to anyone in the world This is all about big money and some status but its big moneyChinas scientists catalogued the genome of this virus in less than a week and immediately released it to a worldwide public virus database Go spread misinformation somewhere else|0 Did you finish the article Literally one paragraph down But technically Hanks and Wilson wouldnt have qualified for an expedited test in Australia either The official Australian criteria for testing was if you develop a fever a cough sore throat or shortness of breath within 14 days of overseas travel seek medical attention Since Hanks and Wilson had been in Australia since January they wouldnt have qualifiedThen they go on to give more examples A significant proportion of tests in the US have been done on NBA players while other Americans wait And give reasoningThe only other people who were tested nearly as quickly appeared to be political officials like Ted Cruz Paul Gosar and Matt Gaetz who were exposed at conservative conference CPACAccording to Diana Zuckerman the president of the National Center for Health Research in Washington DC it makes sense that highprofile celebrities and athletes have more access to COVID19 testing than the general publicI think theres a lot of benefit for a physician to have celebrity patients and that means that those physicians are going to do their very best to please their patients in ways that they might not work quite so hard for in a noncelebrity patient Zuckerman told Insider When something is available but limited and theres limited access but it exists people with more fame are and more money are more likely to get itWith an emphasis on PEOPLE WITH MORE FAME AND MONEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET IT Literally what the commenter was sayingQuit being an asshole and learn some reading comprehension that one line didnt disprove shit its an entire article about how the rich have more access|1 well fuck and here i downplayed it to my friend that they were just symptoms not confirmed cases |1 Were obviously not playing brutal mode or a cure wouldve been invented after the first cough|1 Taking my blood pressure now|0 This is from a Medium post from Dr Richard Hobday I have no idea who he is or his qualifications but linking the original source seems prudent httpsmediumcomrahobdaycoronavirusandthesunalessonfromthe1918influenzapandemic509151dc8065|1 Yes American people are buying masks right now but thats NOT the reason why these hospitals cant get them China bought up a lot of masks worldwide during the start of their outbreak Thats one reason why theres a shortage of them right now everywhere Plus a lot of the masks are MADE in China so they quit supplying them for sale to other countries and kept them much like the country of India is now doing with their pharmaceuticals This comment was on YouTubeYoutube User name Name redacted China is in shortage of N95 masks and protevtive clothing right now Wuhan needs MILLIONS of masks and other protection devices for doctors and nurses to protect themselves If you can see this message or comment please contact the hospitals in Wuhan TEL861370716238613807138996 8613971115010 8613477037766English website of the hospital httpwwwwhuhcomwaphelpguojihtml1 month agoYoutube user Name redactedI have 150000 N95 at price of 3usd ea FOB Panama and also have 115000 N95 equivalent but expired 2010 on boxes of 300qty price is 18 usd ea FOB Mexico1 week agoMost Americans are buying masks from Amazon big box stores like Home Depot paint stores hardware stores etc Those places are NOT where hospitals and most healthcare providers source their masks Hospital and healthcare providers buy masks in bulk from medical supply companies These medical supply companies usually dont sell retail so they would not sell to individual Americans Also hospital STAFF are stealing masks from hospitals|1 You might wanna read up on how the rest of the western world organizes their health care and how it compares to the US The US has by far the highest health care costs per capita and terrible medical stats for a developed nation You can get the best care but only if youre rich enough to afford it Everyone else is screwed and possibly ruined and indebted for life if they get sick Diseases that could be prevented cause longterm damage and health care costs because of prohobitive cost of seeing a doctor and lack of paid sick leaveTreating life and death treatments as a forprofit business is absolutely moronic The market cannot deliver desirable or even just efficient outcomes under such circumstances If there is one industry that would benefit from socialising its healthcare|0 Us plebs are on our own The government isnt going to give us any assistance other than quarantining our citiescountiesstates just in order to keep the market up until the election What a self serving piece of shit|0 I read that reuters article as well It isnt being classified as a reinfection its UP TO 14 have tested positive again not been reinfected I think we all need to be careful with facts and speculation here It was also stated that the antibodies produced have prevented further infection ie they were not contagious after they tested positive again|1 Id say the worst part about someone dying is that someone died but you know more narrowly centered posts are a really close 2nd s|0 I have everything except a fever and they refused to test me Lets clarify for people Coronavirus can start with a low grade fever From my other comments in other threads Ive stated I dont get fevers I only get a little warm I usually run 974 degrees F Ive been consistently running 988991 F today This doesnt count as a severe enough fever to qualify for a test I do not ever go above 100 degrees F I dont even think Ive ran hotter than 995 F since the last time I had a fever at 5 years old In the office I ran 989 F when the doctor tested me That is a low grade fever especially when I normally run 974But thats apparently not good enough to be worthy of a test nor is the fact that I work customer service on the Las Vegas strip and interact with hundreds of people all over the world or that I just came into contact with someone who works in the healthcare industry and just had contact with a presumably positive case of coronavirus several days before my symptoms started Lets also mention the fact that we still dont know very much about this virus and that some people dont have any symptoms at all I really dont think it is all that farfetched that someone who doesnt usually get fevers wouldnt get one now Thats not my bodys normal response to viruses or bacteria I have had confirmed flus before this with a temp lower than 100|1 I agree that 2 weeks would probably not be sufficient in a fullon pandemic but if everyone selfquarantined for 3 months the US and world economy would collapse and potentially a lot more people would die in the chaos This is a tough one especially if the WHOs new 34 fatality rate is accurate A lot of people especially the elderly could be put in a position where it could be more risky to go to a hospital to get treatment for something unrelated than it would be to not|0 It allows contact tracing so others can get tested And provides better data Its a big deal|1 Because it was All a Fake democratic Hoax You still dont get that s|0 Personally I think Santa is the best man for the job since he has a sled|1 He tested positive Which school|1 Id love to meet the person who caused this shit show just to see what a person who infects the entire world looks like|1 I have a theory that its in the poop Public toilets dont usually have lids so when flushed spray an aerosol of poo in the air Who knows how far it could travel That combined with unwashed hands makes public restrooms a hot spot Be careful|1 The grocery stores will not be closedThat said a better question is why havent you prepared for a quarantine or lock down|1 Lol this I was literally choking on my water in office on Friday The reactions of my coworkers were exactly the same|0 Hong Kong people avoided it by having the virus present in the community sooner than the rest of the world As soon as a new virus was announced to be spreading from China HK people stocked up on masks from around the world Japan South Korea Germany UK USA Canada etc HK people remembered the lessons from SARS and reacted quickly to protect themselvesThe HK governement on the other hand they seemed content to let the virus spread and acted in the worst interests of the people by telling the public they cannot wear masks Also the HK gov restricted postal services so people who were sending masks from abroad had their deliveries delayed for weeks while there was an acute citywide shortage|0 Hoping you dont have to eat some crow through this|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfdukuyfirsthandtipsfromwuhanfjtbn9icontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 demoncrat lol|1 Lay off the propaganda Trump did not say people with coronavirus should go to work He was exemplifying how some people that catch the virus will have mild enough symptoms that they will continue going to work because they dont realize they have COVID19 or anything serious enough to refrain from going to work|0 people here generally dont know shit about China but love to talk about it|1 Someone at my work traveled to Hong Kong around Christmas and has been sick since right after New Years Eve now hes actually home too sick to come into work But are people that visited Hong Kong even part of the group that has a high risk of being exposed to the virus|0 I just cancelled two flights next week Airlines gonna keep my money and get bailed out|0 European in Canada hope you brothers and sisters are doing goodall the best to Italians who must going through hell these days|1 Very somber update international country updates UK detailed run down on cases status QA comorbid medication sewage workers olympics Wash your hands please|0 Im not entirely sure but Interferon That costs over 3000 a month here|0 Or they are positive but not infectious this needs to be tested for too|1 Statistically its meaningless sample size isnt large enough to draw a logical conclusion from the data itself But the data does suggest that with a larger sample size a meaningful logical conclusion may be drawn Ie a question is raised|0 This all happened after the High Court ruled the mask ban unconstitutional|0 Will testing positive change treatment or isolation If youve got symptoms of coughing and high fever youll likely go to the hospital and people will be cautious around you and youll get treatment like other virals that present similarly How does knowing its Covid19 change anything since it doesnt have an antidote|1 US media god dammit Weve been counting on pushing how many are cured in wuhan and the speed it can be accomplishednow we gotta figure out how to hide all that |1 This is not a stupid question I was wondering the same thing Its a little unnerving but it would be less so if they had reacted similarly to other situations like this one|1 IC intensive care|1 Massage Envy is still wide open and refusing to turn people away forcing employees to be in physical contact with dozens of people everyday possibly spreading the disease and putting employees at risk|0 And the sickness itself is little more than a mild cold in 80 of the cases This is insanity Fist it was only people sick from a very specific area Then only people from specific area now not even sick people who had direct contact with said specific area and people infected |0 Every country on the planet lies to its citizens|0 The US government is designed to serve the citizens not corporations The constitution guarantees it and its worked since its inception We can obviously improve it but its served the citizens better than other country so far As far as lifting people out of poverty standards of living and freedoms|1 Like Princess Di holding the hand of an AIDS patient but with a grave miscalculation|0 What does China have to gain from lying I believe theyre lying but whyCitizens in the streets would see people keeling over theyd be turned away from hospitals and see how over full they are theyd see family members getting sicker So theyd panic anyway and lying wont prevent desperate people acting out If China told the truth the international community would send more aid and assistance their way why lieEdit to add even if the world panics and stops buying from China itll only be short term our capitalist economies rely too heavily on cheap parts from China No ones going to choose a 200 pair of Australian made sunglasses instead of the 2 pair they were originally going to buy|0 From what the videos inside the city show the Medical personnel have been working to exhaustion in efforts to prevent the spread and comfort the infected with no relief in sight Thank you Dr Liang RIP sir|1 I mean the wording and everyting is similar like they are written by the same person and changed to make it look like they ar enot the same thing|1 Keep in mind that Italy is struggling to test people they arent doing full out testing like they are in South Korea Theyre basically only testing people who come to the hospital in serious condition So its likely a much lower hospitalization rate given all the people staying at home with mild illness who arent bothering going to the overcrowded hospitals|0 Desantis reminds me of mayor of the island in jaws the movieWhat a joke he is beaches in clearwater packed yesterdayBars full today allover the state with st patricks day celebratinsno surprise he is a republican|1 NYC Chicago and LA will be special cases Its unfortunate but spread across the country in the US is completely different than spread across Italy I lived in Italy for a summer abroad I know it well Very touchy people and filthier country than how its imagined|1 Because youll pay 12 as much for better careYou already pay way too much for way too little care Might as well pay half as much for twice the healthcareAnd everyone else will have it too so well stop being the least healthy first world nation on Earth And youll directly benefit because everyone else wont be sick all the time|1 You are right Corrected Im definitely kidding|1 It sure has shit hasnt hit in Philly yet |0 Its been interesting watching the worlds response to this from governments to businesses to regular people like me Not to take away from the real situation at all|1 Haha your shilling is so bad the Chinese government actually must hate you|0 Dude you dont have any way of knowing how bad the other guy had pneumonia Sounds like your case was awful and you shouldnt have had to work like that and yes you can be proud that you got through it but quit gloating Its not a competition and you dont know that your case of pnemonia was as bad as the other dudes|0 CDC has clearly delegated testing to state health departments|1 Problem with these travel bans is that the virus is already here The correct move is to start mitigation strategies like widespread testing and large scale social distancing like cancelling sporting events schools conferences etc Travel bans are dramatic and give the impression of doing something but they are closing the barn door after the horse|1 The growth rate is lower today than yesterday but one data point does not a trend make Its good to be optimistic but we should also remain realistic|1 What types of items and or necessary parts will be sought after from this crisis What items we are using that are taken for granted I feel like I should try to prepare for my business and and as homeowner Essential items or even disposables Im trying to imagine this from a realistic standpoint yet it is incomprehensible I am so sorry for the suffering of all the people and their loss of life and wages or further damages Thank you for your incite and details information on this subject|0 Its a reference to a quote about American firearm ownership and confiscation The often used phrase is Ill give you my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands It is a slogan popularized by the National Rifle Association|0 Yeah all those boomers out there inhaling that juul cancerflavored juice|1 Ive always held these people in a special kind of contempt Why would anybody with integrity want a job that they didnt believe could be done well and thus had no intention of doing well|1 It was their lowest voter turnout since the revolution due to concerns about the virus In some of the major cities less than 25 turned out to vote|0 Exact same story here Will never trust MSM ever again|0 Yeah He travels around with a doctor and blood bank in his motorcade Hes being tested|1 Youre a moron if you think Chinese scientists would not be aware of the risks and want to protect THEMSELVES and therefore as a byproduct protect everyone else Straight up conspiracy nutter Also China produces most parts for everything all over the world they are capable of high and low quality The reason they produce low quality stuff is because other countries tell them to bring the price downIf you think this couldnt have been caused by the lab because people follow proper precautions then Im pleased to report a majority of man made disasters could be averted But alas people fuck up And how many of these scientists are government bureaucrats|0 Sorry why are you devaluing the lives of seniors and people with preexisting conditions Do you not have grandparents Friends or relatives with cancer Transplant recipients The freakout is because you are looking at potentially deaths of millions of people|0 Fuck your family for being that cavalier about it and as everyone else has said its completely understandable if you decide to quitYour dads choices are his own With families of people who make selfdestructive choices the first thing they teach in therapysupport groups is that if the personlets say an unrepentant addict or someone who keeps quaffing soda after they have a leg amputatedhas no desire to change you have to let go and accept that theyre choosing what to do with their own lifeSame goes for the rest of your family The best case scenario would be that theyre right But you and I know theyre probably notBut if you do decide to keep going to work please know that your job is actually incredibly important right now arguably as much as the people treating the actual illness Have you ever heard the expression that society is nine missed meals from violence In other words it takes three days of hunger for riots to start You guys are literally preventing SHTF|0 Yes on parental leave and my wife is working from home|1 The problem is that they are prioritizing people who are bringing the disease into the province not the innocent bystanders that are already here and infected by the people bringing it in|0 The US is about to let their homeless population die untreated and youre talking about ending poverty for a billion people Well were listening|0 By case numbers South Korea closer to the point when 700 million Chinese citizens were put under movement restriction Italy just about at the point of Wuhan lockdownThe major difference in Korea is that many more of the milder cases are being tested and confirmed The numbers out of Wuhan were likely skewed far in the opposite directionDifference in Italy being less concentration of populations which maybe adds a week or two to the epidemiological curveMaybe the changing genomes are different enough to change the rates and severity Too new to know much|0 Things like the coronavirus bring out the best and worst in people Its nice to see the best|1 None of us are ready for ithttpsimgurcomaPOFLDTb|1 WOW This is actually a huge surprise I realize stuff like this is often done for the positive PR but most companies dont give employees 14 days sick leave Frankly I am largely minimizing my time around other people and where people have gathered and left germs in their wake that said I would be more inclined to take and Uber than in the past based on this policy Smart move from Uber Hope Lyft does the same|1 Should one avoid eating cafeteria food Will eating at the cafeteria increase ones chances of catching the virus|1 One of those passengers was transferred last week and is in quarantine in northern Utah somewhere but there havent been any cases out in the wild Its such a weird thing here In the local groups Im in everyone is making fun of preppers and saying the same old the flu kills more people line But physically in stores its a whole different story I feel bad for all of the moms Ive seen in local groups asking if any stores still have baby formula because its all gone from Walmarts target and most grocery stores|0 Orange man bad No travel Bans Travel bans dont work repeat ad nauseum|0 With how rapid its spreading I doubt it I honestly wish it would just fizzle away This is going to kill the most profitable time of the year for our business|1 Yes Nothing to back this up but Ive wondered if the spitters think they are doing Gods work culling the unbelievers|1 And be sure it gets plenty sunlight a healthy boi is a happy boi|1 My first observation is that the numbers of recorded as sick for each age group seems wildly divergent 32 for the 09 169 for the 1019 and then 1235 for the 2029 groupWhat this tells me is that a lot of people have caught this in those younger age groups but they arent getting sick and so arent being diagnosed and listed as cases Because little kids catch everything and they are superspreaders If one kid in a class caught this then he will have infected half of his classThere were also 7 deaths in the under sixties out of 3309 known cases which is a mortality of almost 02 so far Then when you take into account there are probably more people roaming around undiagnosed than are coming in Id be surprised if even half the people who have this know about it My guess is about 02 mortality or less overall and less than 01 in the younger groups In the elderly seventies up is probably where nearly most of the deaths will happen So go visit your grandma while you can make sure she has enough food and medsId also like to add if its been in America for weeks in Washington and its only coming to attention because of a death now two things are probably trueIf only about 130 cases lead to a serious condition after a few weeks it was already spread all over the place and out of Wuhan by the time anyone in China realised something new was in the air Its patient zero was more likely to have been at the beginning of Dec or the end of Nov It was never going to be quarantined so we shouldnt give the Chinese too much grief for that aspectThe fact its been in America so long likely six weeks and youve only just had the first case died means its mild in most people otherwise it wont have spread so far and so silently|0 What money are you even talking aboutIf youre taking about the bonds they are not connected to the WHO calling an outbreak a pandemic or notThe main factor for this was that the WHO bank in 2009 declared H1N1 a pandemic and was later criticised from all sides when the spread of H1N1 slowed down This was after an estimated 150000 500000 people had died of the virusThis time the WHO waited until it became clear that the outbreak would not slow down anytime soon and several countries reported severe community spreadWith these things hindsight is 2020 The WHO declaring a pandemic for a disease that turns out to be mild will be criticised heavily because of unnecessary economic repercussions In the case of COVID19 they couldve declared it earlier but they wanted to make sure that it is not an overreaction|0 I dont eat out these days When I was younger I was a food service worker and knowing what I know about restaurants Im not going to eat out for while1 Restaurant workers usually dont have sick pay at all so if they dont work they dont get paid This is a big incentive to come in sick if you need to pay the bills2 Even if you do want to call in sick its not always easy Usually they have to get the shift covered which involves calling everybody you work with and begging them to take your shift and oftentimes they say no3 If you cant get your shift covered and your manager happens to be a douche common youre in for them trying to force you to come in sick because they need you If you refuse they wont fire you since thats illegal but they can and will reduce your hours into oblivion until you quit because youre not making any money Do yourselves a favorcook at home|1 Are temperatures taken when you try to leave your place or when you come back What happens if they find you have a temperature and youre trying to go home Do they not let you back in your own home|0 as my mom whos been on chemo for years you couldnt be further from the truth|1 Based on following roughly two dozen epis via Twitter examples httpstwittercomtinglesbystatus1221434570714669056s21 httpstwittercomneilfergusonstatus1221076998170271745s21 reading promed which Ive followed and assisted news collection for for around a decade now httpspromedmailorg listening to latest TWIV that interviewed a Coronavirus expert httpsovercastfmHPbcbd4U listening to this press conference from today httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvaYyH4N8VXvA etc This isnt a little thing The potential impacts are quite large There are many question marks but epidemiologists are not typically excitable folks and they are getting a bit excitable right now because this looks like a potential novel Coronavirus pandemic in the works|1 What Is everyone wiping Dont you clean your house and hands anyway|0 Well the dead people will be old so noone really cares s|1 This is great I was told point blank even though my wife has all the symptoms with pneumonia and now a fever on day 4 of the cough that they will not test her unless she had contact with a confirmed case We live in Providence RI|1 Thank you for your response really appreciate it So many people say this is so much than you think but without any idea what more to do besides panicking I live in HK so very close to where it is at The best we can do here is basically avoid crowds unless you need to wear a mask and wash your hand at all times Food is difficult to stock up but due to where we live we will have access to water to distil even in the case of a systemic collapse Finally eating healthy sleeping and not being stressed to make sure your body has the best chance of fighting it if you get infected Besides this all we can do is to enjoy our time as much as possible while we are waiting for this to pass|1 Ive splurged for one of his restaurants and I never regret it he seems like a genuinely good guy|1 I agree I went to Yokohama yesterday and so many people were coughing and sneezing AND without covering their face or wearing a mask which was really gross Though thats pretty normal in Japan Most people where wearing masks and the Yokohama Line had an announcement in English and Chinese about encouraging people to work from home or commute outside of rush hour|1 Elon Musk Check what he said about coronavirus he Just have a great team behind him a great team that know only about some argument|1 No but if a million people get it you may need 100000 beds thats not feasible A fairly large percentage will need breathing aides|0 Its ridiculous we even had to do that at all|0 Ok so basically isolate anyone who was in an descent sized airport in January Haha Good luck with that|1 If self sustaining clusters are formed in multiple countries specifically highly connected countries with poor infrastructure such as India I find it difficult to see how worldwide spread can be prevented without significant draconian measures to shut down international travel for an extended period that is my major concern|0 Thats gonna fuck over consumersHeres the problem You look at society as a whole as consumers instead of actual people I agree that something needs to be done but NOTHING especially money needs to take precedent over health|0 Youre entirely correct but sadly even if the CFR starts to come down with more thorough testing the uncontrolled spread is the real issue here|0 Thank God we had the biggest best military in history and just rebuilt all our nukes Sarcasm|1 Seems like youre just spouting propaganda you hear|1 id rather die from it than try spelling it|0 A voice of reason Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit|1 What do you consider vast majority Put a number on it My expectation right now based on WHO data is that approximately one in every five infections needs to be hospitalized and approximately one in twenty needs ICU|1 Does anyone have Kaiser I feel like they would be extra conservative even more than the criteria standards for testing Kind of made me wish I picked PPO instead|1 And all these handshakesI suppose the no handshake rule just doesnt apply to Americans or something|0 Out of the last 4 planes to Australia known to have an infected on board 2 were from the USA so itd be nice if Americans could please stay the fuck away from Australia|0 Sounds like a lot of Americans that are living paycheck to paycheck working multiple jobs whom I might add cant afford to miss work even if theyre sick Maybe its not as bad as China but a lot of Americans are overworked to the point of sleep deprivation and what I have to imagine would be affected immune systems too|0 I am a swing voter and am going to admit that I voted for him last election but Obama prior two electionsWithout the snark of the other reply can you please explain to me why you chose to vote for Trump especially in light of your two previous Obama votes Id honestly like to know|1 I feel like this subreddit is a proxy war between paid Chinese Communist party shills who refuse to admit how bad things can be and Hong Kong protestors who see a really great opportunity to spread lies about the Communist party in order to drag the name of China through the mud on a global scale Either way I dont think either side is acting in the interest of rationality and safety|1 Theres two divisions at BuzzFeed One does cat picturesclick bait and one does news The news side has had some pretty big drops and excellent success with foia requests The clickbait side is utter garbage that wrecks the credibility of the other side The news side has had some great content but also some huge misses as you can see here|1 People often compare this to the Spanish Flu but theres one key difference I havent seen brought up yet 100 years ago our medical knowledge and technology was far less advanced than it is nowFor a present day disease to have a comparable mortality rate to a disease from 100 years ago it means than in reality it is actually significantly more dangerous Ponder that for a minute|0 No new countries reported cases of COVID19 in the past 24 hours Through the International Food Safety Authorities Network INFOSAN national food safety authorities are seeking more information on the potential for persistence of SARSCoV2 which causes COVID19 on foods traded internationally as well as the potential role of food in the transmission of the virus Currently there are investigations conducted to evaluate the viability and survival time of SARSCoV2 As a general rule the consumption of raw or undercooked animal products should be avoided Raw meat raw milk or raw animal organs should be handled with care to avoid crosscontamination with uncooked foods|1 Party like its 1918|1 Thanks|1 Rip this got 10k likes but my post about it yesterday got like 10|1 Stop insulting Only Korea|0 Someone has to be the protector of your family Youre doing the right thing for caring|1 government do have some plans to aid people that have no savings different regions from China also donate foods like vegetables fruit government also has emergency food storage like frozen porkI remember once read that government volunteers send vegetable packages to each houses which is free but if you want extra meat then you have to pay for them with a relatively low price limited amountas for rent that part is tricky but evicting renters are forbidden since it would endanger the quarantine I personally dont know how the government would handle thatmaybe some handouts but I guess that will not cover all the expense|0 Federal government mistrust yes Less so state and even less so localmunicipal|1 When the health care system is privatized it only caters to the rich and famous Not shocking at all Private heath care looks at maximizing profits while a public health care looks at actually taking care of the people Most developed counties have public heath care free to their residents|1 Reported by Chinese state media how far can you trust that info|1 I would like the other subs name Thank you|1 Not boycotting but we should stop all travel from Italy This isnt a race thing The issue was with chinese lunar new year and the amnt of ppl who went back to China to see family mostly Chinese people Thats why the first cases were on the west coast and in areas with high Chinese populations Also foreign students At this point its everywhere and doesnt matter But it did in the beginning|0 indeed Thanks Obama s|1 Im still waiting for Drug Research safeguards removed and Human Experimention approved|1 Thats great news Any idea what medications they are using to treat patients Looks like other countries should be learning from Singapores example|1 Yes thats exactly what people think|1 Haha here in the UK nothing is closing and weve now stopped testing even Looks like weve swapped places|1 This dead joke of an organization still exists|0 That information can be found here but I dont think theres an easy way to export the numbers httpsgogovsgcovid19dashboardhttpsgogovsgcovid19dashboardBut you can see that the number of active cases peaked in midFeb and has been going down pretty steadily ever since with a minor blip in the past couple of days due to the discovery of a new cluster|1 If you have a good site that you follow for information would you mind posting a link|1 I suggest we up vote this post to prep in a sane fashionWe get a ton of prepping posts but we are not interested in stoking panic buying fever but want people to be prepared and able to stay home at the peak of this epidemic Slowly stock up this week and the next and leave toilet paper for your friends and neighbors|0 Ok so I guess this is a shared experience in every country Capitalism its the other silent virus|1 Isnt this published by one of Trumps big supporters|1 and your president have resolute action just like our president Xi I know many people does not like Xi but fight virus need actions|0 It would seem our respiratory systems would fail to see the difference once compromised|0 It includes mild pneumonia Still bad of course|0 What would your best response be to those that are saying Its just a flu|1 This is important stuff right there Hopefully it gets shared so especially younger people start being more careful Its not funny anymore|1 How will we get more pokeballs lmao|1 Yep and theyve been itching for new material|1 Spoken with true ignorance|1 I think our ego in this country is going to get a lot of us killed|0 I just went to walmart to get some stuff to tide me over for a couple of weeks and theres still people hacking all over the products shooten the shit with their friendsNot even a global pandemic will make some of this trash cover their mouths I dont usually talk like that about people but fucking come on|1 In the middle of January it was 100k infected That doctor that came out initially talking about not travelling for the Chinese New Year was right She described the R0 of 14 measles territory They should have jumped in then but they wanted to have their 100000 person shared communal meal first so that they could get this shit well and truly mixed If it thins the herd of the old and the sick that makes it cheaper long term for the Chinese to deal with They dont care about the people|0 Its paid leave|0 I called them and they said they are good for now but took my number just in case|1 In addition theres been widespread consolidation in healthcare markets especially in rural areas There arent currently enough hospitals in rural areas because a good number of them were closed during the last two decades for financial or profit maximization reasons Im a healthcare economist |1 I can suppose he was in china as there is no real cases of onward transmission in US|0 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats when nCov evolves organ failureIm kidding but the no healthy people is a plague Inc reference|1 They just keep repeating that nonsense because they saw it from a headline or comment somewhere and it must be true because China bad|0 I honestly feel for you that sucks If it makes you feel better Ive ordered food from three different little Italian places by me and they were honestly disgusting Like I didnt know you could ruin pasta that badly So now Im stuck with olive garden only|0 Given the cavalier way weve treated this so far and the low number of hospital beds per capita I struggle to hope we arent looking at a mortality rate close to Italys 5 That would mean 75 million people dying God have mercy|1 Do it you fucks We are forced to work until you decide My job will never close till they are forced|0 Its criminal how this has been allowed to spread This could have been stopped|0 Whos going to watch all those kids Teachers Daycare workers Will they get paid more for that No|0 Yes thank you This is bring missed 20 of people are not on ventilators|1 OMG that really sounds like him I read that in his voice|1 Must be nice to have competent leadership|1 If this is true and this study proves to be right then the chaos in Italy could mean that the increased spreadability from more asymptomatic cases makes this virus even more dangerous than when it affects a more vulnerable population|0 I dont understand the rationale for this If they waited for the FTSE to close surely that only suspends stocks dropping til they open the next day Whats the point|1 Literally so many in my community do NOT take it seriously At all Its complete oblivion I see that changing quickly though as the number of infections and deaths raise here in WA|1 Ive heard some stories from people in China and my impression was that numbers from Hubei are completely made up and numbers from other districts are transparent enough|1 I do have safety goggles but I thought that would freak people out even more than the mask and gloves so I left those at home at least for now during this semiearly stage|0 oh right lol|1 Could you articulate what you are asking If she should leave or how she can leave|0 This is an important distinction As far as Ive heard so far this virus is NOT airborne You probably wont catch it just by breathing near someone who has it as long as no droplets reach you Is that accurate based on what we know so far|0 This is a good point Damned if they do damned if they dont Happy cake day btw|0 If he does have it that would certainly expedite the effort to find a vaccine and cure It would probably mean a netpositive for humanity People who arent taking it seriously currently might wake up|1 They arent cancelling the games but have announced no spectators|0 Hundreds of millions of lives are at stake world wide She is taking a big risk but for the greater good Every day matters significantly every day sooner that a vaccine is developed could translate to a million lives saved globally She is a hero|1 Its not racism Its fear I live in NYC Its not even that Im scared of this so called flu If I bring it home to my elderly mother she will die|0 My daughter will be happy It is a nice house Ill be dead|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh8sbrnobodytooktheaidsepidemicseriouslyuntilfkat5f1 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 thank you exhibit A thatll be sufficient|1 Thanks for the bigger picture on this story|1 What a cutie I glad you found each other and have a fun story to go with it|1 Thank you so much|1 So no travel history|0 Superspreaders are a very serious problem with SARSCoV2 In Canada there was one example of a superspreader who simply walked through an emergency room that was packed fairly packed with individuals infected 19 people in the less than 15 seconds they were in the emergency room as they walked through itDamn|0 Weirdly all the media outlets in the UK state that wearing a mask wont help Sky News BBC news Even going as far to say when surgeons use them in theatre theyre not very effective|0 This disease was created a young individual who laughed when told there wouldnt be any social security left when they retired|1 If theres no testing it looks like the US has it under control Many people who have coronavirus may think they have a cold or regular flu and recover on their own meanwhile those casesrecoveries never get recorded like other countries and it appears to everyone that President Trumps swift and decisive action saved us all|1 Im not a fan of guns but I know some gun owners and right now theyre more thinking about protecting themselves if other civilians start raiding and looting when all the toilet paper or food runs out in grocery stores I guess|0 Guerilla style STICK THEM IN THE SHIT|0 This just this udarkhelicom has COVID20 and covid20b no less That covid19 stuff is so last year|0 Want to point out that specimen doesnt mean people One person may need to give multiple samples for more accurate testing|1 Yes please|1 Its not worthless It tests whether the vaccine causes additional problems It might be a bit cruel but it isnt worthless|1 Well the first German contracted the virus before the chinese visictor had symptons so i guess that clears it|1 Yeah same here|1 Videos in this threadWatch Playlist 9654httpsubtletvcomrf48jzsfeatureplaylistnline1VIDEOCOMMENTProfessor Neil Ferguson on the current 2019nCoV coronavirus outbreakhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvALQTdCYGISw6httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf48jzsfhpbwbwcontext10fhpbwbw Estimates were that China was catchingreporting about 10 of its cases and internationally about 25 are caught So 8 cases could mean 32ish from Neil Ferguson at Imperial College of LondonSharp increase in coronavirus infections explained DW NewshttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvsCvejWx34zkt602s3httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf48jzsfhp3i4pcontext10fhp3i4p The German health minister said it good recently His whole interview is worth watching imo TLDW Quarantine is not the only way to deal with a virus outbreakCat into bottlehttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvpX4yK4yG3pE1httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf48jzsfhrocxycontext10fhrocxy Cat into bottleIm a bot working hard to help Redditors find related videos to watch Ill keep this updated as long as I canPlay Allhttpsubtletvcomrf48jzsfeatureplaylistftrlnk1 InfohttpsnpredditcomrSubtleTVwikimentionedvideos Get me on Chromehttpschromegooglecomwebstoredetailmentionedvideosforreddfiimkmdalmgffhibfdjnhljpnigcmohf FirefoxhttpsaddonsmozillaorgenUSfirefoxaddonmentionedvideosforreddit|1 Yes something capturing the rate of growth please|1 Frankly I dont see many countries doing a better job with this than China did even with the advanced warning China and their citizens immediately took it seriously because of their experience with SARS they put a whole province under a pretty heavy handed quarantine while they still only had a few hundred cases and they built two hospitals in a little over a week Very few countries are actually doing extensive testing right now the US doesnt even have enough tests to do it if we wanted to and a lot of places with confirmed community spread especially in the US have been really slow to take any steps like canceling school limiting travel and canceling large events|1 These videos are literally all over reddit social media twitter You cant find them by performing a Google search but if you spend any time at all on this sub youll see plenty of theseThese are the videos that tend to get censored and deleted as soon as they are posted If someone posts them to the other virus subs on reddit the post is deleted immediately as an unverified or unreliable source That is how information warfare is being waged people dont want you to see it so its not allowed or is deemed to break the rules of reddit or of the hosting platform youtube twitter etcIn my book a firsthand account filmed on a smart phone and shared with the world can be not always but can be just as credible as something you read on CNN or other MSM Im sure 1 out of 50 or 1 out of 100 is indeed faked and probably 1 out of 50 or 100 is mislabled either intentionally or accidentally as to time or place but that doesnt change the reliability of the vast majority of the others|1 No thanks Considering the previous misreport I dont trust NYT at all|0 Im prepared but unfortunately I think they would rather die than deal with reality In September I should start going to university This virus just made my plans of becoming a researcher even more solid|0 Except they tracked it fine for other illnesses Only SARS and COVID19 have these missing smokers from what i saw Go check a few random illnesses and see if you find any others|0 If it makes you feel any better there are a bunch of promising treatments in the pipeline|1 Damn what state do you work in|0 Theres video of it on rthunder they announce that the game has been cancelled everyone is safe but the game is cancelled and to exit the arena in an orderly fashion They didnt say because of coronavirus Most everyone thought it was the season being suspended last minute but then it came out about Gobert Jazz players and personal were quarantined at the arena during testing One of the things mentioned was they were trying to determine if they were safe to fly or uses busses|0 I always say that I dont drive a car but I use the goods and services provided by those who do so I respect the good they do for us allI work with over a hundred charities in my city and they are mostly staffed by older volunteers These elderly are holding vulnerable peoples lives together and enhancing the lives of many others We are working on plans so that work can continue as the virus spreads but if the workers withdraw or die then the effects will be felt across the county Some of the workers have medical challenges but work week in week out for years in health and education and many take on a number of vital roles in the community They have family and friends and years of experience and expertiseI do think that children especially who have lost grandparents and those who lose loved ones will be deeply wounded by these events and should be encouraged to receive grief counseling|1 Here in the UK chasing down contacts and self isolation seems to be working well but thats at small scale If an epidemic were to occur businesses would have to shift to working from home events would need to be cancelled and public information campaigns could alter behaviour Forced confinement of the healthy to their homes for days at a time I dont think people would comply and I dont think the government has the nerve to force them to|0 Self selection bias is a huge issue Ive gotten really fucking sick with the flu and not gone to the hospital because I just didnt feel like it warranted it|0 HOW ARE PEOPLE THIS DUMB |0 well she put them in a situation where she would have to miss them for her entire life time and live with the guilty of passing on the virus to them and potentially killing them |0 Its a good thing the worlds greatest minds and supercomputers and politicians are pushing it Maybe it will help|1 Were all going to die Some sooner than others|0 Lol holy shit what a bunch of dipshits|0 look at how the virus acts theres no way china couldve prevented the spread|0 Yeah skepticism inducing for sure but to be fair it depends who youre listening to The WHO and CDC have been saying for literally months that healthy asymptomatic people are spreading this So we should be testing everyone including healthy asymptomatic people It wouldnt have gained a foothold out of China if everyone who had it was laid out within a few days|1 protip smokers are more susceptible im also trying to cope with the fact that if i really wanna protect myself i may have to stop smoking weed and start consuming it another way|1 Good news You most likely wont die if you get it|1 Initial reports suggest there is a five day incubation period Its entirely possible he was asymptomatic and felt great when he got off the plan and woke up the next morning with a fevercoughetc|1 Thankfully our government is doing a great job but still calculations show that all hospital beds will be full in two to three weeks Source httpswwwcshacatcshpolicybriefcoronaviruskapazitaetsengpaessespitalsbettenfbclidIwAR3XH6tOjaNCYgt9wej39X8CyPB6yF4j63kedOiEXaBByRHmROODx9U|1 Every time he starts point out that Obama successfully defended the country from Ebola MERS and the Zika virus That should shut him up for a while Edit forgot H1N1 thats 4 plagues Obama stopped |1 Thats probably what Gui Minhaihttpsfreeguiminhaiorg thought until he disappeared from his vacation home in Thailand and turned up later in Chinese custody To then be partially released Then snatched up again Then disappeared completely|0 exactly I think Id be happy to pay a premium to watch the movies at home vs going to the theater right now I dont want theaters to go away but with all the universities and workplaces going onlineremote Why shouldnt new movies go remoteonline|1 That was hilarious|1 More like W Bush 911 The exact worst guy to have at the exact worst time|0 That would suck but totally agree with you|1 I dont like liberals and I downvoted the guy Sorry to break it to you but Reddit isnt a hivemind of liberals|0 Thanks for that|1 We have copious video footage of Nazi Germany and it doesnt seem to be stopping anyone from repeating those mistakes But while it was in living memory for a large portion of the community that had a stronger protective effect We might get a good 70 years out of this at least|1 And bidet to you too friend|1 Bingo I think because theyve been through SARS etc The people understand that wearing masks is important social distancing etc The streets of Beijing were empty just a couple days into the outbreak back when there were only a few confirmed cases in Beijing Americans on the other hand are convinced its just like the flu and masks do nothing to protect you We are completely fucked|0 I forgot people still gave a shit about karma but youre totally right My main is almost 10 yrs old digg exodus lol and I made a throwaway for these subs bc aint nobody tryna get d0xxed But anyway I do remember such shenanigans esp w ebola upd00tsdiggs to the left|1 They want compelete independence|1 Its actually a stable virus WHO has confirmed that the genome seems to be staying stable someone said it has some error correcting features but i cannot verify due to lack of knowledge The asymptomic transmission was confirmed in at least two cases|0 Thank you|1 Yes I do I have anxiety too and because Ive been following and worrying about this thing for weeks I now feel like the most extreme of my worries whereby up to 20 of people who get this virus could die without medical care based on figures from the WHO press conference is actually slowly coming true httpsstaythefuckhomecomhttpsstaythefuckhomecom|0 In 2008 psychic Sylvia Browne wrote a book End of Days in which she predicted numerous things about the future of the world Interestingly she wrote specifically that in 2020 a pneumonialike disease would take over the globehttpscenterforinquiryorgwpcontentuploads202003coronaviruspredictioninbookx6751024x576jpg which seems to be right She also wrote that it would disappear as fast as it came and then would return 10 years later 2030 before disappearing entirely Now although Browne was world famous she passed in 2013 she did get predictions wrong specifically regarding the Amanda Berry hostage situation in Ohio and Shawn Hornbeck kidnappinghttpsfinanceyahoocomnewssylviabrownesbestworstpredictions152400628html So she may or may not be entirely right about how long this virus will last|0 The more the merrier that one eager person who unintentionally started the office orgy|1 I have been wondering about this as well I wouldnt be surprised if this some kind of biological warfare operation|0 wtf is happening to my country The virus hits Italy and then this happensIm really worried about this situation we are getting here in Italy|0 I read somewhere that Italy and china have some sort of collaboration in the medical field so not surprised this happened|0 Oh no he seems to be an asshole to me|0 Thanks for your one day at a time assessment of risk Some of us are taking the future past history and the lack of quarantine into account when assessing risk|0 That sounds not good there|0 its still a little morbid way of framing things its hard to model an average persons mortality rate in a general sense if they commute during rush hour while texting and driving every day something that a lot of people do their chance of death is probably unchanged in fact being at home quarantining may even decrease their mortality chances for that day|0 And more people die from cows than sharks But thats the thing shark attacks are abnormal and this virus that became infectious to humans was transmitted from another animal Youre downplaying the seriousness of this situation thats caused entire regions of China to be quarantined This is not normal Stop trying to make it seem normal This is literally now SARS 20|0 I was just about to say that I wanted to see that as well|1 I finally got the attention of my bf by almost dying a few months ago so he gets that Im more medically fragile now I dont recommend this method as it requires a time machine and hella luck|1 The Pope is a super spreader|1 I just got to wonder what happens when health care workers decide theyre not going to risk contracting this virus risk passing it on to their family to their friends What happens if even a quarter of nurses and doctors refuse to go to work in these areas Are they past the mental breakdowns and cardiac arrest from being overworked stage yet It seems like no one involved with this is really protected|1 Because people will lose their shit if they immediately go int hardcore quarantine You cant just lock someone in overnight You have to ease them into it People are too stupid to realize the severity of the situation theyre in Theres people who have been diagnosed and told to self quarantine and STILL go out lmaoIf the US starts seeing a massive outbreak the world is truly fucked We have too many stupid people|0 Its sad bc most Americans have underlying health conditions|0 So why dont they just go rogue This is all over a freaking swab test How low can our government go|0 I wasnt trying to insinuate it was a good plan just that it seems like it is the plan the government is trying to use thats why I followed with I wish we could get some absolute number on the amount of tests my estimate wasnt off I think it was around 1500 tested when I wrote that comment clearly we are not trying to contain the spread if we are severely limiting the testingI expect ICUs to be full within a couple weeks|1 I live about 10 mins away and now have a sore throat Great|1 Domains are built in levels Quick and dirty overview When you query a domain requests go out to servers iterativly The system will ask the com servers what DNS servers are responsible for Google then the system asks the Google servers what servers are responsible for wwwThe common ones we see are Top Level Domains usually abbreviated TLD Those are com org net etc Above that there is actually a root which identifies responsibilities for the respective TLDs DNS servers will have root name servers configured by IP so they can start the query at the top as neededThe on the end of something like com is referencing the root domain Its basically an assumed thing by systems which is why you dont have to put it but you canI would bet the systems at NY Times are doing url inspection of some type of something similar which is how it knows where to send you My guess would be whatever is in place is specifically configured without the at the end because its not actually on the url 9999 of the time|1 Well this cant be a good development|0 They should add another 10 years for exhibiting extreme stupidity|0 Postdoc Harvard here No wonder Boston and its world class science is an extremely international area with many Europeans and Asians students and scientists Now they are even shutting down all wet labs bringing a lot of important research to a halt It is the right thing to do though protecting people is more important than our research|1 Is the death rate different for each|0 Say you have severe immune system disorder and have to wear a mask and just traveled for life saving treatment or something to make them feel like the asshat they are|0 So true everytime I see an effort like this I have to assume they havent heard of scihub because it has already done what they want to do but for every article|1 There are several diseases that are actually worse as adults Chicken pox for example You get chicken pox as a child and youll most likely be just fine You get chicken pox as a teen or adult and youll have a more severe version and youre more prone to complications Thats one of the reasons it is so important to get that vaccination the illness wont usually harm children but it can be extremely dangerous for adults|0 Supportive care and if someone was in really deep crap Id probably throw certain HIV drugs at it that are suspected to have some activity Im an HIV specialist so I have some stuff on hand Though admittedly if youre coming to me for help the hospital is already full|1 Not necessarily Lets not try be doctors here A flu is a sign of his body fighting the virus As advise from John Campbell dont interrupt it unless it goes way above 39CIf the breathing gets more short or makes him past out get 999 involved|0 Oh well I guess its time to die It was a good ride I think we need to change our attitude about protecting vulnerable people instead of assuming nothing can be done|0 Hindsight is 2020 Its easy to say shit like this when you know how things are going to turn out|1 Dont worry Theyre rich enough to afford good health care|1 Its a bit ironic to call that manipulative and yet leave the quarantines have little effect on the progression in the model part out|0 No its not likely given how many have it and dont know it and never present any symptoms or only mild symptoms To assume the first case was a severe case and was detected from all possibilities is a far stretch beyond the pale of reason|0 I dont like that controlling for terminology because thats not really what a statistical model can do but know what you mean Id like to see it broken down to male smokers and male nonsmokers for example Unfortunately no one has published anything like thathttpsiredditcomrCOVID19commentsfaluhvanexhaustivelitsearchshowsthatonly585sars|0 I know its outdated Im just curious why its even still up for people to read|1 I also would like to know this On top of that are pregnant women at extra risk I have friends who are due in 23 months|1 Obviously nobodys happy about these numbers but the CDC does not have complete information They report only cases tested by public state health labs and even those numbers lag a few days behind The last full day they have four days ago was 2564 which puts the CDC public labs alone at over 20000 since each subsequent day will end up 2500 We know from Scott Gottlieb that total US capacity is now at least 25600 not to say that all of that capacity is being used so the real total is obviously much higher UW Virology alone is now running about 2600 patient tests daily and we can clearly see that theyre not being included here NY state will be running thousands daily in the coming week as well This is all to say that the CDC really needs to collate all the numbers across the country ASAP|1 Its probably bleachWhy Killing the virus that remain on surfaces for an undefined period of time something like 10days ive red somewhere|0 This wouldnt make sense to be weaponizedLets make a virus that acts like the flu and can be recovered in a few days If youre going to make a biological weapon you want the targets to die quick|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I think I might be too hopeful and optimistic when I say I hope the world can band together after this event to help poorer countries and regions adhere with health protocol because we now are given a taste of what happens if only one part of the world has this happen It spreads Idk Im hopeful|1 UPDATE Husband brought home this little guyhttpsimgurcomgallery79HfmCx to help me feel better This may be childish but I feel a little better holding him so squishy|1 Yes thats the other thing Im worried about Im hoping that because we are still close to the lockdown that the flights will continue to operate for a few more days until theyre all canceled My visa is until June|1 Yeah but hes talking about the study that mentions two strains of COVD19 Not the blanket term corona virus|0 Thats the choice In a conspiracy movie but in the real world lots of people right now are running simulations and trying the save the most amount of lives possible Its bullshit conspiracy panic like this which are whats going to cause the social disorder when stuff gets worse so save lives by calming down a bit|0 Chuckles in Japanese|1 Is violated the CDC gag order accurate She was overseeing an entire lab test facility could adapt to test for the published COVID sequence and didnt wait for approval from the state feds Thats not violating a gag order A gag order implies the test results existed and were suppressed The results didnt even exist before she took action|0 Fair enough I dont know enough to comment on specific best practices but its pretty clear that this will be ongoing for months and completely closed borders for that period of time seems impossible It might better read as improved screening and visa procedures instead|1 You definitely should have FOMO Its so good|1 All of us u too bruh We all the walking dead|0 You need an oxygen concentrator Even a huge cylinder will only last you about an hourOxygen concentrators are about 1k They work and can supply oxygen indefinitely sourcing it from the air I would buy one now before things get bad if youre super paranoid This is what the hospital will give you if youre struggling The next step is intubation and forced ventilation There arent many further interventions possibleDisclaimer I am not a doctor just a hypochondriac who googles too much|0 You can do home schooling with them and they will lose nothing in terms of education|0 there are only a limited amount of negative pressure rooms in the countryThere are still a limited number of cases in the country Use the resources available while they are still available|0 Where is she located Im near a major metroplex and dozens of people from my local neighborhoods have already offered through NextDoor and Facebook to help seniors and other highrisk folks get food and household supplies|1 And for all the hoarders the ones who empty the shelves of masks disinfectants and alcohol leaving nothing left for the rest of us please die of the coronavirus Thank you|0 Friends and colleagues make fun of me when i say to them Italy is what we will have in Germany two weeks from now|1 Murder implies direct intent He didnt mean to kill people so no But manslaughter sounds appropriate|0 the numbers in china are pretty underreported|1 I prefer to use cash and I completely agree Ill usually use hand sanitizer after but make sure I wash my hands before eating|1 Are there other viruses with the same characteristics that we manage to get rid of once it passes the brain barrier An absolute fuckton of viruses have the potential to be neuroinvasive but for most of them it only happens in rare cases For a virus like this where 12 of patients probably less but time will tell will see the virus rapidly spread to other organs its not surprising it also has the potential to spread to the brain|1 Im having such a hard time following him right now I wonder if hes sick he really does sound like shit|0 prevent your boots take the virus to your homeChina and SKorea did the same thing you shouldt laugh at countries taking the virus very seriously|1 Lmao are you high while typing this as well Of course your lungs weaker than non smokers|1 I just checkedIts second top story on BBC News Third top story on Guardian And frequently on the news cycle on BBC news Every single nightIts not like you have to go digging for it not from my perspective anywayI dont use Apple news way too curated and it tries to bundle too much stuff based on your likes its just as likely to push a tech review than it is a worldwide pandemic and I dont follow the MailSun etc So not sure how they are reportingThe reason it might be dropping off a bit is that theres not been a new confirmed case in the UK in 9 days Theres only so much they can report on No new cases doesnt really grab headlinesThe informative stuff like the Neil Ferguson Channel 4 interview and stuff was done earlier when it was breaking newsMeanwhile theres been a shooting in Germany Trumps exadvisor prisoned floods all over UK a pretty high profile celebrity suicide and a terrorist attack in a mosqueAs soon as another UK case is found or more frequently across Europe Im sure itll get pushed to the top of the news cycle again|0 They are absolutely missing infections Theres 10s of thousands infected The ones being tested are the ones who are showing severe symptoms|0 Clearly its classified and it would be breaking the law However if this is the sediment coming out of such a meeting where millions of lives could be a stake Then dont make such comments at all Hes fucking dense for even making such a statement|1 Reading that was just upsetting And I really dont want to go on a political rant but for fuck sake really|0 That dude at least recognizes that he fucked up he donated half a million dollars to causes helping with the pandemic Doesnt make it okay by any stretch of the imagination but at least he feels remorse for what he did Weve all done dumb shit we wish we could take back|0 Ty for the laugh|1 Thanks to uEuneek heres the link to where he says it Skip to QA 1245PM ET mark httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvJVMZC952AwEAnd thanks again to uEuneek heres what he says According to health officials the fact that I have expressed absolutely no symptoms means that anyone I have engaged with this week has not been put at risk|1 I agree we are in prime global recession and industry restructuring time right now When it hits no one can say for sure but both the Fed and China are spread very thin I think the truth of the outcome of the virus lies between both extremes the official numbers and the speculative numbers lots of doomers claiming this will wipe humanity off Earth as we know it lol My guess is that China collapses into civil war and restructuring while American industries bring more production domesticallymore stable areas to try and safeguard from this happening again Im confident well enter a recession this year caused in part by the virus Trump wins again because the democrats are running such a weak lineup and we claw our way out being the only main global super power again like the 50s with corona possibly floating around like a type of smallpox equivalent but modern medicine should figure out how to wipe it out before that Thats my idea on where this goesI wouldnt be surprised if there was some sort of historical equivalent to whats happening now with on and I sure as shit wont be surprised when in 100 years it repeats its self again Humans love cheap labor and ignore the risks I turned pretty speculative in this comment just figured since we seemed to agree id elaborate|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 The US Army has conducted exhaustive testing of various decontamination methods They found that Dawn is hands down the best surfactant available We utilize it for radiological particulates chemical degradation and removal as well as cleaning of biological agents It is amazing because it is so powerful and yet harmless to animals People like to shit on chemical companies but this particular chemical is a miracle of science Available at Walmart|1 I disagree Iran has a terrible healthc are system They dont even have enough testing kits to dected the cases I am not asking to build whole hospitals in Iran but at least some materials or volunteers etc every bit can help|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnbccom20200312carnivalsprincesscruisestopauseglobalshipoperationsfor60daysovercoronavirushtmlsourceiosappshare7CcomappleUIKitactivityCopyToPasteboardI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This is the most informative and comprehensive thing Ive found on the subject so far|1 Yes but Reddit doesnt have a hate boner for the Netherlands so no one cares|1 Im sure there is something suitable They could contact 3M and work with their engineers to see what needs doing Obviously a car manufacturer is likely to be too large and the wrong materials Theyve had 2 months If china can build a hospital in 6 days we can repurpose some factories to build masks and ventilators in 2 months Not like theyre not going to be spending billions on relief efforts The only excuse is laziness|1 Yes Since its hosted by the vendors digital services like Overdrive Hoopla and cloud Library will be available Get a library card now so you can checkout books movies and music while quarantined |1 Well sorry to burst your bubble but it doesnt spread by domestic animals Educate yourself before posting BS|1 Could menopausal women report no symptoms or mild symptoms because of the effects of menopause Hot flash vs a low fever|0 Almost like a human union of sorts|1 There is only one strain That has been thoroughly debunked|0 I have a slightly elevated temperature 9951001 and a cough with no other symptoms except I had some aches the 2nd night of having it and I got it tested and its influenza So it could just be that Get a flu test if you can|0 Older people are at higher risk of all infections its not that we dont care about older people it means that this virus is slightly less terrifying than one killing healthy young people with good immune systems Older people are at higher risk of seasonal flu and pneumococcal pneumonia too No one says no one cares enough to develop a super fast cure for seasonal Flupneumococcal pneumonia because only old people get it its just general knowledge and accepted fact that older people are more vulnerable to infection|0 The elites chuckle softly to this|1 Is there anything for asthma Im 27 with asthma and Im scared|0 My sons doctor was always antivitaminsuntil todays visit She said oh yeah I take 5000iu D3 and zinc My first thought was oh good but Ive been doing that for years My second thought wasfuck you|1 My employer has given us the okay to work from home if there are any signs of illness I guess were lucky|1 Guangzhou Free to go out as we please Temperature checks at the gate of the residential complex and at every mall entrance Many shops and bars close earlier but no official regulation for that Feels more like an extended holiday|1 Mickey dont give a FUCK|1 Well deserved Hes one of the very few people talking any sense|1 You are right about that they may be old and the youth are more resilitient I have no idea if thats the actual reason however young people are less at a risk The issue stays the same however in that while they will be relatively safe they will still be able to contaminate other people in their surroundings and at the hospital if they get contaminated|0 NoThe global economy is well globalIt will affect everyone and all currencies in some way|1 Someone check on the Uyghurs Crematoriums running 24 hours a day sounds bad|0 Look at it this way they had a doubling rate of every 2 days 1 week ago This is WAY better Doubling every 6 days or so is what we were hoping for and will continue improving|1 Great and she is worried about all of those things and also her wedding|1 Thank you for sharing this I have been thinking about this every day|1 The Church also have groups that practice medicine and I am sure they will be helping to care for the sick They did the same thing during the Spanish FluThis is pretty standard procedure for them|1 Wow|1 It was also easier to test potential cases early on Now they only test people in hospitals It doesnt mean the total infections have slowed Just that this a day where fewer people needing hospitalizations were infected|0 I dont understand why youre downvoted youre simply telling the truth Probably some members of the 50 Cent Army are not happy about this And they will most likely also downvote this comment Oh well Edit If this comment keeps on getting downvoted its only going to further prove the point Thanks for doing that 50 Cent Army|1 Keep them safe It wont cost you your marriage When this is all done your wife will just love you more for doing your best to keep them safe if she has any sense Obviously any wish to go I told you so later will have to be ignored but it doesnt sound like youd want to say that anyway|1 Im german and yesterday a friend who has all the coronavirus symptoms went to the doc The doc just said We dont have the virus up here so its just the fluSo yeah dont put too much hope in the reacting earlier thing|1 Then dont take approval Just do it Use your powers as a state gov|0 Yes but that will be determined by whether or not you can breathe not a test result|1 Home delivery would be the safest place for normal births|1 Im curious to know what you meanThere are fake singleparty democracies in the world like Singapore Russia sadly now Hungary and many more but S Korea is not one of these There are multiple competing parties votes are counted and people can even protest without being shot or tortured by the police|0 Its complicated First there is plenty of data on the WHO website although most of it is Influenzarelated Thats the pandemic everyone was waiting for Not that people werent expecting or planning for an outbreak of a novel virus theres been plans for that too but its harder to plan because you dont know in advance what kind of virus it will be and how it will behave SARSCoV2 is a nastier one in terms of contagiousness versus mortality than most assumptions wouldve been previously And that said the influenza documentation still provides plenty of useful information for the current situation just not always 1to1 applicable Second as with any transnational governing body it leaves public exposure mostly to the member states ie the ones with the higher democratic legitimacy By nature it must work mostly behind the scenes coordinating but not dictating policy and streamlining information flows between countries And of course specific measures must be different from place to place even within countries But there is a large similarity in responses just look at the travel advice almost all countries are giving now Italy has gone for the Wuhan model in response to its outbreak in Lombardy Most other European countries follow the initial Italian response Thats party due to coordination from the ECDC but they in turn coordinate with WHO|1 I read the first promed listserv notice about a viral pneumonia out of Wuhan on jan 2nd This shit is fucking insane Many people saw this coming for years It was just a matter of when not if|0 Same here It was the collapses and overflowing hospitals |0 Americans confidence in the economy is higher than at any point in the past two decades Similarly national satisfaction is the highest in nearly 15 years Sixtythree percent of Americans now approve of the way Trump is handling the economy up six points from the prior reading in November It is the highest economic approval rating not only for Trump but for any president since George W Bush enjoyed stratospheric job approval ratings in the first few months after the Sept 11 2001 terrorist attackshttpsnewsgallupcompoll284156trumpjobapprovalpersonalbestaspx|1 Its a product of the people working for them Youve got thousands of healthcare workers who were using every avenue they could to go after the provincial government in large part over not getting raises And while some concerns were legit they were all petty compared to this health crisis If the doctors nurses and unions spent 20 of the energy they put towards attacking the provincial government towards preparing for the Coronavirus They probably wouldnt be in the situation theyre in right now|0 Sad At least you tried and you were right People for some reason dont mind getting wiped out on the markets dont worry Ill be even in ten years |1 My guess would be they dont want to cause unnecessary panic Or at least thats the bullshit excuse theyll use|0 One of the doctor in his 40s We really should take this more seriously|0 Yeah I might do that and start sending things regularly from AmazonAnd luckily my brothers live nearby so she wont have to go it alone|1 Im WFH right now Next week is second week Im very lucky I can do this|1 thank you for stepping in in the absence of our incompetent federal government|0 And China had 144 flu deaths in 2018 Chinese numbers for data reporting are weird and the infection rate is much higher than is being reported Not me that claims it but people who know what they are talking about in the lancet|0 Much appreciated|1 We would like only three per day please Now now go home come back earlier tomorrow|1 Oh it was a joke |1 Id strongly argue otherwise|0 I think he has been high on pot ever since he got back from Christmas holidays He looks like a zombie|1 I am stocking up on food and medicine Other than that just keeping up with news from rCoronavirus Theres not much else you can do Go about your daily life and assume you get infected eventually|0 If I went to a store and only some of the cashiers were wearing masks I would choose one of the masked people Your manager is an irresponsible asshole Good luck I hope you dont get sick or fired|1 Lol Sounds like you have a bit of a fetish for this|1 Interesting So youre developing ways to test for different proteins or bio markers that could be indicators of specific diseases|1 It is a lesson that should be learned at least one month ago Prejudice just costs you as much time as ignorance of the Wuhan officials has cost us Its a huge pitySent from China|0 Theyve done it war before|0 I cant believe youre being downvoted holy shit So many commie shills|0 Any underlying illnesses|0 I have my own business stock is running low out of China The manufactures I use in China emailed me and said things could be back to normal in a month or two but for now there is limited supplyIts going to have a nock on effect if parts of Europe go in to shut down there may be a period were we will be limited on certain things for a few months Just depends how bad it getsThe thing that concerns me more is the stock markets millions of pounds wiped off everyday as investors move their fortunes|0 Three simple tricks coronaviruses will hate you for|0 Actually the ideas and creativity we are showing here may need to be implemented locally by the local residents themselves organizing and doing it Maybe it is time to reach out to neighbors have a meeting and take action I think it is pretty clear that many governments are waiting for guidance which may never come or are afraid to act|1 My best friend lives in America Florida and shes immunocompromised so Im scared to death |1 We shouldnt have to depend on the charity of millionaire players or their billionaire bosses to have health job and mental health security Vote for Bernie 2020|1 why not help protect them by making groceries a drive up service instead of 75 people all trying to get through the checkout at the same time|0 You sound like an advert|1 No you are exactly right we have to be ahead of the curve not behind it|0 Sounds like it would be simpler to nuke it from space to stop the spread of that ship What a mess oof|0 It isnt about verifying if every individual anymore to provide treatment There arent enough tests Its about testing the worst cases to verify how widespread the disease is in any given community to paint a picture of which areas of the country are going to need the most help and which areas will need to be shuttered and quarantined or as we call it in America Shelter In Place My take Theyre doing widespread testing on cases they KNOW have it to help build a map to see what areas of the US are hardest hit so they can mobilize appropriately and get ahead of this Were very behind This is a clever way to catch up|1 The action being takenAll care homes have stopped visitor accessHospitals are only allowing low risk visitorsSelf isolation for 7 days for anyone with a cough or coldNHS government and military plans activatedEmergency legislation drafted Testing capacity increased from 2000 to 10000 a dayNext weekEnd of mass gatheringsAnyone who has a cold self isolate but also the entire familyNext week to 3 weeks depending on number of casesAll over 70s and with high risk medical conditons to self isolate for 14 weeksSchools shut until SeptemberMilitary mobilised to help support the NHS public order and food supplies|1 No we arent The complete opposite in fact The virus is spreading at a snails pace right now Weve seen ourselves this thing is going to snowball bigger and bigger Isolating the elderly now would end up leaving them unprotected when this thing peaksIf we wait until this thing is a bigger threat we can then protect them during the most dangerous periodYes some will get infected now and die but that number should be smaller than if we let them get exposed when this really blows up|0 What does sealing the border have to do with anythingDo you mean restrict air travel|0 Stuff like basic medicines and first aid material nothing that could be helpful to fight the virus itself of course if the situation occours|1 Again recovery doesnt mean youre out of the woods Your kids are still in danger is it really safe to play with this virus and assume theyre okay|1 Americas privatized healthcare crisis was unresolved by Obamacare Our costs have tripled in the last generation and our incomes have largely stagnated This is a shit show Were almost uniquely positioned to be hammered by this despite starting off as one of the premier most developed healthcare systems in the world several decades ago|0 Also on Saturday the Civil Aviation Authority of Vit Nam CAAV announced that all permits granted for flights between Vit Nam and China including mainland China Chinese Taipei Hong Kong and Macau have been temporarily revoked effective from 100pm Saturday until further notice The CAAV however lifted its blanket ban later on the same day allowing airlines to restore flights to Taipei Hong Kong and Macau as these destinations were yet to be greatly impacted by the new coronavirus VNSThis is a good example of how he could have gotten infected|1 I do not think theres much room for funny with 2019nCoV tbh|1 This is not an answer to your question but just a comment about the practice of cremation in China at least in the cities I believe cremation is mandatory|1 Im in the single digits away from Life Care Centers in Kirkland |1 Sweden is a capitalist country with higher taxes on the well off except the old money ultrarich and more money spent on helping the poorest It can be called welfare capitalist or social democratic That said they have been moving economically to the right since the 90s privatizing a lot lowering taxes on corporations and in turn cutting into things that were funded with that money The main centreleft party that has dominated for decades the Social Democratic party has moved more to the right but also they had right leaning parties in power for awhile in the 00s to midlate 10s Its debatable which Scandinavian country is the most social democratic now maybe Denmark or Norway they have all been experiencing the same phenomenon but Sweden is not the model social democratic country it was 1020 years ago Still compared to the US Swedes are still in better shape for the most part unless youre in a high income job in the US then economically youre better off in the US than you would in Sweden|1 I am from China but now the development of populism in China makes me upset|0 Death to capitalism|0 The Majority of Americans do not consider healthcare a right it is seen as a privilege Actually the first two were not free our forefathers pledged their lives and sacred honor in those days honor was everything and patriots fought and died to guarantee our freedom also we are not a Democracy we are a Republic our forefathers actually openly warned against democracy Right or wrong this is the facts of the matter All that aside I believe the US will fare fairly well compared to other nations when it is all said and done with this Virus but even then I cannot say that with certainty could be me being hopeful haha Should definitely stock up food incase people start panicking personally i am not worried as my immune system is phenomenal it is the food and resources particularly toilet paper hahaha i am worried about should this virus spread across the nationAlso couldnt hurt to get more ammunition if worse comes to worse and you have to protect your family your food and your water and that precious toilet paper|1 I agree|1 Nor is this who the majority of us want to be|1 We will see in the near future just WHO is benefitting It could be CCP It could be Putin If some of these older world leaders DONT get it and die suspicion falls on that countryChina Russia the US Putins not that young Xis not that healthy and we all know about Trumps comorbidities Honestly if Trump doesnt die I would suspect a vaccine possibly from Russia prior to release of the virus|0 Lets be real He doesnt smoke or drink and would receive the best medical care possible if he gets infected Theres very little risk to himAny old people shaking his hand are in far greater risk|1 Nothing is something you SHOULD panic about Panicking only causes more problems How does your dad feel about it Is HE worried If hes not worried then its okay It doesnt hurt to limit your contact with people especially while youve got a cold Youre keeping aware thats a good thing But dont panic Just try to keep your mind chill and your hygiene upKeep chatting with your boyfriend How does he feel about it Is he panicking|0 Hope that you wont come in contact with too many people Be safe|1 Nuke the ship from orbit Its the only way to be sure|1 which is fine for hand sanitizer but my supermarkets have rations on water food etc Or what if im buying for an elderly family member who doesnt live with me and is homebound Obviously there is no perfect solution but there has to be a way to acquire basic products without being made to feel like im a scalperhoarder|1 What That cant be true|0 Please describe purpose of closing schoolsIf you want to close schools for nationwide preparing for outbreak then its good decision If you want to close schools for stopping coronavirus outbreak its bad decision because it will not help without closing all other structures as well as reducing freedom movement and etc|1 What a cunt|0 Italys density is about 10x higher than the US Were likely to be quarantined but we should see positive results from it a lot faster than an unhygienic country like Italy that is filled with Chinese commuters and everyone kisses each other twice|1 That is just bad text from a website that is built via a scraping algorithm The program has mixed up the 4th NI case with the new confirmed death in Milton Keynes|0 It is a grave sin in the Catholic Church to disbelieve science It is considered a direct affront to God because it offends reason which is part of what makes man the imago Dei|0 Propaganda martial law will incentivise people to wear masks|0 As a teacher the feeling of walking into a school building filled with people while a pandemic was occurring was a surreal feeling Many of the kids in my class were already sick with an assortment of colds coughs and flus With corona on the horizon it seemed extremely reckless for everyone to be exposing themselves to these preexisting conditions Thankfully where I live the governor made the right call and closed the schools NYC should do the same|0 Scary I cried a bit the last time I was at the grocery store finishing my last trip for the known future Kept thinking about how it was likely many of the cashiers etc would fall ill soon and seemed to not even know the risk of their situation yet I hope your wife stays healthy and you too of course|0 It looks really messy and confused difficult to see any cohesive trends other than the numbers from Hong Kong and Singapore are really goodPerhaps as a counterpoint looking at the data with day 1 at C100 each countrys trends are firmly established and similarly performing countries can be seen even more clearly|0 That isnt even necessarily the case it could be an artifact based on how the studies were conducted or any number of other confounding variables Maybe people receiving the IV vitamin C happened to receive more nursing care or other things like thatOr maybe it was the populations being studied perhaps some individuals were truly deficient in vitamin C and benefited from the supplementation I like to think of vitamins to be similar to filling a gas tank you need a certain amount to live but if you keep filling once the gas tank is full youll just be spilling it on your feet And yes I know this is a bit of an oversimplification but it generally worksAnd in a world where interventions cost money and we assume the outcome suggested clinical relevance matters lets just say saving 10 hours of the snIffles is more tolerable than a really expensive hospital bill Although you might find yourself more accepting of the bill if it was life and death|1 Yeah Im so tired and resigned right now I try to do basic things wash hands even often than usual dont go out if not necessary avoid public transport bought some things to store for at least few days and even with only that I feel like a weirdo And I feel like all my effort is not worth anything because people around me and my flatmates are ignoring whole issue I would feel so much safer and calmer if I would feel that at least in my home Im safe And Im not talking about some extreme stuff but some basics When Im alone I start sometimes to overreact because Im hypochondriac but to other people I try to say some common sense things and they dont listen|0 Fing brilliant Yes please|1 angry and scared get a sick note from a doctor or psychiatrist for anxiety and get it renewed until they are forced to closecheck with the laws where you live but I think you would be eligible of unemployment benefits if they fire you because you were on sick leave|0 Pssst theyre still taking digital preorders on animal crossing You can switch your physical copy order to a digital order and save your island from shipping purgatory Itll download as soon as you redeem the code |1 Fair point |1 This is trumps fault|0 Self reports from panicky idiots dont impress me|0 God I miss him so so so so much Just seeing him makes shivers go up and down my manly legs|1 And what about the non chinese travellers Im sure they wont put everybody in quaranteen Please dont think that I wish them to infect the whole country i just believe it has reached a point globally where we cant go back|1 Havent they suffered enough already|1 Isnt the death toll under 5000 Saved the lives of millions is probably quite the exaggeration|1 If you have the worst respiratory case it doesnt matter whether you have a bed in the NHS or not as youve pretty much been handed a death sentence|0 Very true Updated Thanks|1 It is lower than the day before though which was 2000 ish IIRC|0 Elbow bumps Get the fuck outta here People dont need to touch each other ok|0 Ill have a 9 with fries and a Covid19 test|0 At some point the 6 degrees of separation rule will kick in and we all will know of someone not doing so well with this virus At that point we wont need the government to enforce striker measures The UK public at that point will panic panic instead or prep panic now|0 commuterThats where youre misunderstanding the entire concept They manage to do it only by ensuring nobody left a certain area and nobody entered it The communities who did it were largely self sustaining but for those who had people or goods coming in they had strict quarantines before the goods or people could enter Providing you have nobody coming in and out and you did it soon enough you would still be able to do it todayre your comment about vaccine it actually depends on whether it mutates or not and whether it mutates to deadlier or milder as to whether vaccine will be important in this scenario|1 This Seriously these people get more likely sick from stress about this panic rather than the virus itself|0 Problem for Boris is the average Conservative voter is probably a lot more likely to get severley ill or die because they are normally older|0 Yeah even a 1 fatality rate is still millions of people And there was never even misinformation on that front|0 Stress probably causing a few extra deaths a day too|0 We are doing the same Also the mom of a medically fragile toddler We have no confirmed cases in our state our state is one of the few still not testing but we are isolating at home just like we did the first winter home from the NICU Not worth the risk|1 There is no avoiding this virus dear everybody is going to get it eventuallyThe best way to survive is to get it when adequate treatment is available that means before or after the peakNow would actually be a good time to get it if youre historically healthy not a smoker and have previously recovered fast from flu and colds etc You will currently have the least chance of infecting others|1 Tbh I was always amazed by your careless higyene in public places I mean the kebab seller touched the meet with his bare hands the native sausage seller ditto I was at a coffee shop and the spoon was dirty the server took it poured some water on it and cleaned it with her apron right there in front of me I ask for some fries at a restaurant the server drops 14 from the plate on the table she quickly says sorry and reaches to grab them by hand to put them back on the plateI never got food poisoning in CH though And I think this attitude of yours manly promoting health through sport carefree is what is going to bring the country to its knees in this crisis|1 i quite like rabbits send me a photo of your partner|1 The 1918 flu pandemic infected 27 of the worlds population and killed 50 million people Just because none of us have experienced something like this doesnt mean it cant happen againCurrent virus is highly contagious and estimated 20x deadlier than a normal flu CDC suggests it could be a couple years before a vaccine is ready This has the potential to get very bad|0 Marathon runners are also like sharks they cant get cancer s|1 Student here last semester If only we were allowed to help the hospitals Due that we dont have a license we cant practice or help out Its been crazy how they always try to bring you down and say that being RT is not that hard|1 yes because we are not sure that it helps so we shouldnt just wait for the summer to hit they are right about that we need to take measures just in case hot temperatures dont help|1 Honestly N95 masks are in limited supply and Id rather have them for people who interact exclusively and extensively with the ill rather than people who might potentially interact with the ill|0 yesmaybe this will help Your sick with 50 friends Your sick with 1 friend outcome youre still sick and now so is potentially at least 1 more person it doesnt take 250 people to get sick it takes 1 person|0 Smile and wave boys smile and wave|1 im furious that our medical communities are not being tested first this whole situation is disgusting in this country|0 My wife just came home furious from an arguement with a co worker who totally believes the conspiracy is real and thinks Trump is great cause he gives his salary away the dumb people virus is just as scary|0 I like the headline on the bottom that basically says varieties of traditional Chinese medicine is approved to treat new pneumonia|1 No worries Just want things to be accurate its just annoying cuz data is spread out on like a million different sites so I scrape about 150 sites to get the most accurate info|0 So this guy goes to mainland for 2 hours and contracts this virus Wtf|0 Ay man Hope you feel better stay hydrated and if you have trouble breathing get to a hospital Best of luck|1 The US definitely is failing Only Britain is handling this worse imo|0 When you wake up in the night time toned out for a call dispatch says its chest pain but you know its alcohol A junky corona a wino or a nab You know youre gonna transportcause you drive a medicab 20 yrs of service I know how it rolls|0 The culture surrounding masks started way before the protests Namely the 2003 SARS outbreakhttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2002E2809304SARSoutbreakHongKong that hit Hong Kong hard enough to raise alarm The history of masks in East Asia goes back much farther than thathttpsqzcom299003aquickhistoryofwhyasianswearsurgicalmasksinpublic but yeah SARS was a big deal when it happened|1 Same here my dad passed away two years ago from lung cancer Almost got a lung removed but it had already spread to his lymph nodes so that was pointless I thought if only that hadnt happened we would still have him but he wouldve had no chance with only one lung |0 This number was based on being 4 weeks behind Italy At the time we were 13 days behindKeep calm and carry on is not an argument for inaction|1 You arent helpless You have the ability to say fuck you and quit There will be resources available in your area and unemployment to collect|0 It doesnt have to be any worse to spread rampantly and cripple healthcare capabilities in affected cities Even if the death rate is 2 If a decent percentage of the sick reach serious or critical condition from it there arent enough hospital beds in any given city to manage This is why Wuhan just had 2 hospitals built and possibly another 16 more|0 Correct me if Im wrong but isnt it illegal to turn off the necessities like heat water electricity even if its not being paid for in most of the developed countries|1 A friend of mine got a speculative diagnosis from a doctor in Little Rock at a drive through testing facility there Negative for strep flu and pneumonia They didnt have enough tests for them to get a COVID19 test so they just straight up told her Im pretty sure you have coronavirus and to go home self quarantine and be prepared to go to the ER if her breathing gets more labored Absolutely insane if you ask me Im convinced well never know how many people actually have it|1 I did the math earlier Based on the percentages out there now fatalities between 600k and 105 million This is gonna be bad no matter how you slice it|0 If you mean I dont believe everything MSNBC tells me then I supposed so Unemployment is down and I get to keep more of paycheck than I have in a long time Gas prices are down which the news is trying to spin into a bad thing along with most other prices You go on drinking the Kool aid though Were surviving Trump just like we survived Obama Bush and Clinton along with every useless flap of skin weve put in Congress despite what youre being told I get it though some people dont have a reason to get up in the morning if they dont have something to be outraged about|0 I had symptoms a few days ago Im 19 and took an Advil and felt better maybe this is really just a head cold then lol|1 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiBloombergPhilanthropiesWell its embarrassing to be you because you just like to be upset about shitThats a phrase btw and every debate no one on the stage questioned his record on giving|0 We might actually get some more people taking it seriously nowEdit can a mod please get back to me Not sure if this is the right place but I was banned for 6 days from rcoronavirus for this post Im assuming it was this post It was for political reasonsIve been here since the beginning of this sub and have only tried to post newsupdates and havent tried to break any rules Would be nice to get a response ThanksUpdate still no response from any mod|0 Steroids are pretty common treatment for respiratory issues I think the immune system suppression is a bigger issue in longterm usage than in shortterm usage for an acute illness|1 true here I am working on a major european airport having to deal with this bullshit Not having masks or anything Lines of hundreds of passengers from Spain Switzerland Italy Some of them coughing Just shut the whole thing down|0 The article said the Greek citizens on that tiny island are majorly pissed and theres been violence The real correct pedantic statement would be that the problem isnt affecting the rest of Greece|0 In ny well see over 5 thousand dead|0 Is peripheral neuropathy a symptom If it is oh boy Guess I got lucky|1 China gave us two months warning and we still fcked it all up We shouldve been ramping up testing our hospitals and equipment I just cant even believe this is real lifeEdit I am NOT defending China at all They fucked up immensely Im just extremely frustrated that America watched everything unfold the last few months and until about a week ago still took no action or made any preparations|0 Youre assuming the dead figures are being reported as due to the virus instead if pneumonia|0 Same with metal spoons It is usually rinsed or washed in a commercial washer which is not the way to sanitize it Id like to see a scientific source for this claimCause if a dishwasher at 5060 degrees for one hour using dish soap tablets dont kill all the germs and viruses then washing hands for 2 minutes at a 30 degrees hot water should have no effect what so ever|1 Since everyone is downvoting you into oblivion and now a little brisk comment to boot I just want to say I have no idea what you actually mean by the statement but I will toss something out therePerhaps you mean that it is selfish to remove them and risk infecting others I hear you with those thoughts There are plenty of people who feel that way I think the quarantine period is coming to an end 0119 and all countries are going to be forced to do something with their citizens as it is not feasible for Japan to deal with all of the remaining passengers because there is really no good way to know if the people are infected or not at this point because the clock keeps getting reset with each new case and not having a way to trace it to an actual source for an accurate incubation period is problematic I think other countries will be doing this as well but I could be wrongI am not going to downvote your comment because no matter what you meant you are certainly entitled to say itLet us all hope this virus becomes something we all remember in our past and we can move on to helping one another all become more civil I dont care if you are American or Alienit doesnt matter to me|0 This is an impressive move from Uber but I hope they can extend it up to 28 days Its been suggested that 14 days is not enough as some patients tested positive for the virus again after quarantinehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfeql65wuhanincreasespatientquarantineto28daysutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 This is the exact reasoning Im trying to tell my girlfriend She keeps insisting how nothing is 100 failsafe And thats right But every little bit helps|1 But if we get free healthcare capitalism will just disappear and we will be evil socialists so we have no choice but to pray away this virus|1 That seems like a reasonable estimate Current worldometer count is a death rate of 35 which is surely overestimated since we must assume there are cases that were undiagnosed because they were mild 1 million casualties sounds accurate|1 Thanks for that info|1 Hell as a Canadian I hate Trump but im scared for him lol I dont think anyone deserves to go out like this I pray for everyone |1 worth|1 What if the virus kills Donald Trump|0 Both of those coronaviruses survive well in cool dry environments like a planex200BCoronaviridae is a family The individual species within it can be quite different functionally You can learn from similar species of course but this knowledge can only be applied up to a certain extent From what I understand the transmission vector may be very different from SARS and MERS as well as its propensity for mutationx200BCDCs failure to incorporate research and past exposure incidents into its investigations and public communication is extremely disconcerting Profound x200BAgain blindly applying knowledge based on SARS is not science Im not sure what you want them to do that they arent already doing If youre asking for them to recommend decreasing the likelihood of contamination Im pretty sure they cant be any clearer on that What other lessons from SARS do you want to incorporate herex200Bincompetence worthy of demotion or termination Unfortunately as we all know government often rewards this kind of substandard work|1 nice how you blow up the numbers by starting low and then saying stuff like If you take even just 25 per day growth while using 20 a sentence earlier lets assume there werent just 10 but 20 Why not say its 4000 per 1 infected|0 I cant believe it The Trump administration actually did a good thing|1 For example pretty sure my daughter has it The NHS has zero interest in testing her Just said self quarantine|1 There really is nothing to celebrate with this whole thing People who are panic buying now are the problem though not people that have been prepping early If anything they aent warning signals that more products were needed If stores enact limits on buying now for every product we would not have shortages Perhaps it will be standard practice if this continues beyond a few weeks|0 I am in a support group on facebook and some dude messaged me privately to see if I would be interested in buying masks Talk about selling your soul to the devil for cash Bottom feeder the lowest common denominator|0 Indeed this is from scientists who do these kind of analysis for a living If you scroll down you see all the sources of sequences which labs published which sequence and the publication describing the website Hadfield et al Bioinformatics 2018Always happy to make this all a bit more transparent for people I hope that by making it a bit more accessible we all understand a bit better what we are currently dealing with|1 its gonna be worse in the states no avoiding it now its too late|0 Thats great but as a landlord I cant afford to not collect rent I have mortgages on my rentals|1 Apparently it takes 23 weeks to die from it if youre one of the unlucky ones So if the infections just started |0 Fuck|0 Might as well set yourself on fire while youre at it|0 How long do politicians who are responsible for this level of mismanagement think the public will stay still until someone gets fed up with them allowing infected people into their city and goes full no russian on people|0 Agree At least Singapore doubled down when Shit hit the fan SARS 2003 and learnt valuable lessons from that disaster despite being a one party show|0 This 100 Also state public health labs major medical centers Mayo etc testing labs labcorp hospitals usually do the testing then send to CDC to confirm positive test samples They do this with most diseases like flu syphilis HIV etc For Coronavirus the virus is new so CDC had to get known strains of CoV from international partners like WHO to test and create testing kits from Now the kits seem to be stable so instead of sending every test sample in the US to the CDC for testing the state public health labs will do the testing and send positives to CDC for confirmation Ive read that some larger hospitals will also be running the test themselves right now Since testing efforts are spreading out it will more difficult to get accurate day by day total tested numbers from all those other places it makes a lot more sense for all those concerned to focus on testing the samples and getting a confirmations on suspected samples and having a weekly or monthly report with extra numbers like total tested All of this takes a lot of coordination and manpower and unfortunately positions for pandemic response were never filled and budgets for this kind of response were cut because this administration thought it was waste of money to continue those programs|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I disagree that its splitting hairs You made it sound like there were pallets of test kits ready to ship over when in fact its an assay that was developed presumably by the WHO Was it a serious fuck up Obviously and absolutely though without being privy to the decisionmaking process within the CDC its hard to know why Was it some evil profit driven scheme Theres no evidence to suggest that any more than evidence to suggest that perhaps the testing guidelines werent compatible with some of the testing machines more widely used in the US or some other logistical issue We just dont know|0 like it or not Twitter is one of only a handful of news sources we have to get honest accounts of what is happening on the ground in Iran and Wuhan governments are all under reporting and main stream media outlets are not covering the true extent of this diseases this man has nothing to gain from this account and is probably putting himself at risk by making this video|0 Mortality rate in Italy is high as well|1 Dont tell me its a political stunt FFS|0 Hang in there and do YOUR part by not putting others at risk Leave in the future|0 if there are no masks then you dont get to go out as simple as that|0 I wasnt talking about ChinaRight now flu is widespread across the US Locally our healthcare providers are calling it an epidemic of both A and B strains People are still working because they cant afford ten days off work They already dont take the flu seriously What do you think they are going to do when they read someone writing It is not much worse than the flu People tend to latch on to information that confirms their bias|0 I wouldnt because I need both arms One for doing stuff and the other for a potential fistula through which to dialyse in the future I know they can put one in a leg but its much trickier|0 Its possible people are sick who dont get counted in the stats Obviously the critical and dying get reported but milder cases can go unreported|0 I did not go on a Disney trip and cruise with friends in late Feb Lost a ton of and friends are still mad I didnt know about the sunk cost fallacy at the time but knew it was a terrible idea I am still really sad I missed the trip but have zero regrets It was the right thing to do|0 Its easy to have 3 billion dollars when you inherited 400 million from daddy If he just put that money in investments hed be worth even more than 3 billion dollars right now|1 Of course But dont forget Trump has the strongest lungs The best lungs really Nobody has better lungs than him Doctors have said they have never seen better lungs stronger lungs He isnt saying this to brag everybody agrees everybody knows today he was discussing Coronavirus with the top lung experts in the world and they congratulated him you know because he has the best lungs that have ever beenAnd if that doesnt work he can buy a new set of lungs|1 Id rather a scumbag who gets shit done than a nice guy whos all talk|0 Im surprised there has not been a confirmed case yet in Tiumen Russia with the 149 people in quarantine At least not yet|1 Yep Im one of those people Lived my entire life not knowing I had a heart defect until it popped up out of nowhere and tried to kill me It was diagnosed in the emergency room while an ER doctor was chemically restarting my heart I was 29 years old Its rare but it happens Ive had the flu too was hospitalized for several days because of it last March It SUCKED People who are saying its just a flu have no idea what theyre talking about The flu kills people even young healthy ones I started my quarantine last week Stocked up on groceries No nonessential travel outside the house and no visitors inside I had a very harsh awakening that young people arent invincible Unfortunately most dont or arent as lucky as I was to get a second chance|0 No discrepancy Droplets can stay in the air for some time but that does not equal airborne in medical and epidemiological terms Floating freely in the air is airborne and that is far worse To give some context this virus and the flu neither are airborne have an R0 of about 2 each person will infect 2 others on average measles airborne had an R0 of about 18|0 This will pass in most of the world since most the governments took the issue seriously but boy o boy will murica be changed xD the dissappointment in evil ones faces when it turns out they will have to forfeit their weapons no more relevance hahahaha|0 No but now on top of regular season flu you have something else to be more fearful of nowTedros scientifically this SARS Cov2 is not the flu But can be prevented in the same manner as the flu Even top virologists around the world claim SARS cov2 to be even more contagious than the flu Due to its ability to be airbornecovid vs fluhttpswwwhopkinsmedicineorghealthconditionsanddiseasescoronaviruscoronavirusdisease2019vstheflulinkhttpswwwhopkinsmedicineorghealthconditionsanddiseasescoronaviruscoronavirusdisease2019vstheflu|0 I completely agree with the quoted text In a city as connected as Hong Kong it is clear that any travel restriction would need to include not only land travel bans at the Hong Kong China land border checkpoints but also bans on air train and boat travel which is exactly what some local medical experts are suggesting Hong Kong should do|1 You can try to ask here Ill approve you but most of the submissions relate to getting support here Wont hurt to ask though|1 Having been to some of those places I dont have a lot of hope for the residents|1 When the first nationlevel politician dies I dont expect this administration to take much of anything seriously until it kills one of its ownBonus points if its one of the weathier politicritters in that itll show the socalled elite that their money cant and wont save them|0 Not Crystal Cruises 31 day advanced notice httpswwwcrystalcruisescomcoronavirusupdate|1 Oh right where Im from a joke requires humor or wit perhaps thats not universal|1 Huh I dont know why I thought it was Thank you|1 Again no sources cited by you If you look up ad hominem in the dictionary theres your shining faceAnd that means youve lost this debate my little trollish medical professional And yes I appreciate the irony of using an ad hominem argument to finish this|0 Matt Hancock shared a number re the ventilators on his Twitter Id give that a call as a starting point|1 Huh I want to pay taxes And I dont want free money And I want to employ my workers at the rate The Market bears not at some inflated government standardIf The Govmnt wants employees to have 2 weeks paid time off above and beyond what we have negotiated Well Go right ahead and use those lovely payroll taxes to fund that|1 In a press conference from Johns Hopkins they just said it is most likely everywhere already then proceeded discussing a conference where people would travel from areas with and without infection They describe areas without confirmed cases as disease free like its a fact and is safe|1 Not possible to sayIt certainly wont slow them down to have access to a stray article that may have been missing from their database contractThere are many many fields that will directly and certainly benefit however across public health and other health professionals who work in government agencies in the developing world|1 Actually all humans have hairy butts the hair performs the basically the same function as nose hair You just dont realize it because you may not be able to see yours But it is absolutely there unless you for some reason shave it Which sounds terrible and dangerous but to each hisher own|0 All good cooking needs sour sweet and salty They are just flavor enhancers|1 you will pay for this with lives|0 Its hilarious to me how so many people on this sub rush to discredit this post because it doesnt align with their doomsday bioweapon narrative Honestly feels as if there is a subsection of people are who wanting things to get worse and worse|0 Brilliant Some more of those please |1 I love my grandmother but by god she is a major source of my current anxiety Shes nearly 80 and smokes and is refusing to maybe stop volunteering at the art gallery where she has constant contact with the public|0 I dont think you can be too cautious|0 I remember my friends calling me crazy for blowing it out of proportion in late January lol|1 Ohioan here all bars and restaurants are closed takeoutdrive thru is allowed Same with Indiana I believe One of my coworkers was at a bar that tried to stay open last night when the ban started police came in and made everyone leave|0 I see you seein him Playing quantum hyperdimentional chess ayup|1 CDC 2019nCoV RealTime RTPCR Diagnostic Panel2019nCoVEUA01 Box 1 Primers and Probes 4000 reactions tubeBox 2 Positive Control Provides 800 5 L test reactionsSource CDC Website|1 Well I feel the same way However the purpose of the mask is to prevent someone from catching what YOU have So think of it that way Also if it gets to the level where we need one just buy a respirator Thats what Im doing|1 Do you want zombies Because this is how we get zombies|1 Exactly or to stagger time to allow for development of vaccines or more data from clinical trials|1 Maybe Sylvia Browne is better at virus prediction than she is at solving child abductionsSylvia Browne Track Recordhttpswwwhuffpostcomentrysylviabrownen4317470guccounter1gucereferreraHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8gucereferrersigAQAAAGhJQs1JhiTjnkLNjJpLBUJSlusrFuXZGB0N9ohBxOvYwb7kgN9Sk0V1PSZa9bnRT6TFtXeECk5MBjYsHKjUMGGb6yu7E39obDOLggTFvglNQNEpCNlUmztt66DYUcY4dttqIOzKZhWv27yWczlZRP7KBuZKBRLmkVcAUI7uM|1 I think those numbers are higher for two reasons Wuhan isolated their citizens and basically put the whole region in a lockdown This reduced the spreading or at least the tempo of it Wuhan is now just shy of 3 months into this The numbers for Europe are expected cases within a yearSo if you do not take measures like Wuhan did then in a year 40 to 70 will have contracted the virus|0 Good enough for me|1 Well this is another level|1 Not really Mike Pompeo is in charge and hes a very loyal Trump appointee|1 For some chilling reading try Australias pandemic planning for critical care resourceshttpswww1healthnswgovaupdsActivePDSDocumentsPD2010028pdf It goes into the nuts and bolts about how these decisions may end up being made In this case they do not specifically cite age as a factor although the triage criteria they use would almost certainly all be worse in older adults and hence would likely exclude them from access to critical care|0 Another mishandled case its like they are spreading it on purpose|1 Get ready for 4 more years Commie|1 Was anyone truly confident in the US Government to begin with And their current solution is overreach and control Yikes|1 Germany is and has been reporting every death that is related to COVID19 There simply havent been more than 2 so farThis has various reasons but Germany isnt hiding any coronavirus fatalities|0 Could just put a mandatory stay on all evictions instead Obviously wouldnt be as effective but is an easier policy to apply blanketly to people in all walks of life to make sure they dont become homeless during the pandemicEvictions generally take a few months to go thru anyway Fed could just say yeah no eviction procedures while this is an ongoing situation then you get at least 3 months of ramp up time or some shit before any eviction procedures turn back on afterwardwould give people room to not pay but theyd still have to somehow come up with the back money which is why its not ideal|0 What happens when schools remain open and drastically speed up the spread of the virus leading to more hospitalisations Wont NHS workers then get sick and be off of work anyway|0 Yea but that drivers tie is sure straight and proper|1 How bad are your symptoms Are you able to quarantine yourself It must be horrible the uncertainty|0 but so are other political modelsSo people should really just stop thinking what they have is right and what other people have is evil|0 In my computer lab today one of my lecturers and some tutors were discussing how they were going to teach us when the uni closes I doubt its far off|0 Same in Romania people just dont take it seriously My parents are mad at me for asking them to buy supplies and now I want more Genius reply from my father They will go bad When in 2026All of our cases are because of stupid romanians who returned here after those cities in Italy closed down|0 Less than 500 people tested in the United States since the beginning of the epidemic the doctors who resign in front of the danger all the people who will not go to be treated for not paying There is a small problem no|0 I would like to point out this video does not come from the epicenter of the disease in Italy the person states hes from Naples its not verified seems very implausible for a west European country it has only been tweeted by relatively shady accounts and nothing close to officialSo until this has been verified TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT do not believe everything you see a video like this one is extremely easy to fake in order to instill panicx200BEDIT A reputable Italian news source has made an article about the videohttpswwwilmattinoitAMPnapolisospettocoronavirusostaggiocasalasalna5099299htmltwitterimpressiontruehttpswwwilmattinoitAMPnapolisospettocoronavirusostaggiocasalasalna5099299htmltwitterimpressiontrueTranslatedhttpstranslategoogleusercontentcomtranslatecdepth1nv1rurltranslategooglecomslautospnmt4tlenuhttpswwwilmattinoitAMPnapolisospettocoronavirusostaggiocasalasalna5099299html3Ftwitterimpression3DtrueusgALkJrhj0pLaSbWHmbka6UpwUEJJornS5w|1 Its not great leaps its simple logic one of my moms best friends was a former Speaker of the house in The House of Commons and I talked to her last night she talks to Trudeau on a weekly basis she even told me she doesnt know and theyre keeping most information in house as to avoid panic so by all means listen to who you want to just know Im going to do the same and have been this whole time|0 Not a wearing a mask and infecting thousands horrible|0 He should lose his license|0 I dunno man theyve cancelled the Premier League games until April It may almost be time to tut loudly|0 Sweet Plus saved you the trip|1 Its healthy to be scared and work on being prepared but its unhealthy to be obsessed and spend most of your waking life thinking about it I agree with your suggestion to see an online therapist to figure out good methods to cope with the stress|0 Yeah I was surprised by how strong my but His boy loved him he turned into a real rabbit gut reaction was at the thought of burning the velveteen rabbit I guess that book traumatized me|1 No confirmed cases doesnt mean much in this era of little to no testing|0 This sub is pretty much the only one on Reddit that I really trust for the virus and for that I give credit to most people who post highquality stuff here and to the moderators for aggressively birddogging and removing unfounded manic horseshit not to mention political axgrindingI have a favor to ask anyone here whos willing to post the link to Italys official data I had it a few days ago but damn it I didnt bookmark it Mea maxima culpa on that The South Koreans are fantastic with their data and Id really like to be able to have a solid primary source for the Italian numbersId be grateful to anyone here who can accommodate my request Best if the data were in English but if I have to translate I can certainly live with it Ideally it would be a site that a is updated daily if possible and b is searchable for past days as with South Koreas site Thanks much to anyone who can helpBy the way I figure everyone here knows how to get the South Korean data but in case anyone needs that link here it ishttpswwwcdcgokrboardboardesmida30402000000bid0030|1 There are better ways of cutting costs|1 If youre not 15 How about 16 Maybe 17 at most Just curious|1 Funny how we realize all of us couldve been working from home this whole time|1 Not really China is also responsible for the last few pandemics and most of the flu outbreaks Using more EVs means dick if youre creating global pandemics every few years because you have unsanitary practices in your food markets Weve been able to stop the last few of them early but it was only a matter of time until one of them actually started spreading|0 The CDC is utter trash I dont Ive ever seen an organization lose this much universal respect before Theyll never live this down and heads are going to roll|1 From the articleHet idee dat alleen kwetsbare senioren risico lopen door het coronavirus klopt niet Van de 96 coronapatinten die maandagavond in Nederland op de intensive care liggen is ongeveer de helft jonger dan 50 jaar zegt Diederik Gommers voorzitter van de Nederlandse Vereniging voor Intensive CareGoogle translateThe idea that only vulnerable seniors run the risk of the coronavirus is wrong Of the 96 corona patients who are on intensive care Monday night in the Netherlands about half are younger than 50 says Diederik Gommers president of the Dutch Intensive Care Association |0 I also had swine flu Laid up in bed and didnt eat anything for a couple of days as I was living on my own When I felt a bit better I tried walking to the shops which were about 300 metres away I had to sit down to rest on the way there If youve never had real flu you might think its like a bad cold and that youll function You wont|0 Is the 1 error rate false positives false negatives or both If its false positives and it tests 100k people where only 1 are actually infected that leaves you with about a 50 error rate with 1000 that actually have the disease and about 1000 who were falsely identified as having the diseaseOr if 99 of the people it identifies actually are infected how many is it missing Could be most of themDoes anyone have more info like the fact sheet the article references|0 No Asian countries listed Hmmm|0 The CDC seriously dropped the ball|0 No one in the US has been stabbed for tp currently only one person that we know of got stabbed with a wine bottle and thats because the other guy pushed his girlfriend while panic buying|0 While I do somewhat agree I also think its a powerful emotion that can do more harm than good in the end|1 Offer video tutoring Can see that being something popular|1 Im trying to explain the same thing to my friends but they cant seem to grasp the issue here|1 How are people recovering from coronavirus if theres no cure|0 few hundred a month their partthat sucks 15hrchrist that just makes it worse|0 EDITI am definitely wrong They apparently have used it in Shanghai with decent results I thought you may have been referring to a single monoclonal antibody but I guess theyre just injecting complete plasma from healed patients to sick ones I think a few other places are looking into it now as well OriginalI dont think so To be able to isolate it that quickly would be close to a miracle Also very very expensive for something that may not work and potentially have a lot of side effects|1 Die from the flu I hear that thousands of people die each year s|0 Too expensive to have informed public If we test we know if we know we must take measures like close schools and work places That just costs more than having the public get infected After all if you have the money for treatment and access to health care youll be fine If you dont have money and get very sick or die its collateral damage and economically expedient|0 Doesnt really matter stay home|0 I cant fathom not taking something seriously until Tucker Carlson does Good Lord Im glad the Fox News folks are changing their tune though although they will never admit they messed up in downplaying it|1 Proof is literally just abv2 100 proof is 50 and around about the point Alcohol will catch fire|0 I am not under any illusion that I can pick the market bottom It survived an important test on Friday staying above the prior weeks panic lows and remaining above the 200day moving average But that could easily be temporary so Im not piling in all at onceAlso Im buying only dividendpaying stocks with the intention of holding them for quite a while not any kind of day trader here at all I will probably suffer nearterm capital loss but that wont be realized unless I sell which I dont intend to doThat said all of this entails risk Once the risk is gone so will the reward be gone Im confident that effective treatment is right around the corner and that it will be apparent to all But therell still be earnings hits so Im concentrating defensivelyThe biggest risk as I see it is valuation The PE ratio is still high and now the E is in doubt at least this year But all of that will come back during my time horizon Id love to have a time machine so I could see how far down in will go but oddly enough I lack one At least that Id ever tell anyone about LOL|1 Japan no one off the boatUS I want off the boatJapan there you go|0 No Ford doesnt control the airports but he could have publically pressured and called out TrudeauUhhuh Imagine if Ford was disparaging Trudeau in public during this crisis the left would be apocalyptic about how Ford wasnt working well with Trudeau Ford doesnt know what hes talking about etc etc Give me a break|0 I doubt well be welding anyones apartment door shut to keep them inside|0 I kinda feel that way too but I dont know how bad the situation is|1 Thats a great quote and very very true|1 walmart in timnath co wow im surprised how much changed in just a few days completely out of toilet paper some single rolls of paper towels still left hardly any canned goods no flour no water and barely any deli meat or cheeses still plenty of meats frozen food wiped clean as well i saw more people wearing gloves than masks only saw a few people wearing masksking soopers in loveland co just a few days ago i was at this location and they still had bleach and lysol spray now theyre completely out no pasta and barely any canned goods however they had more selection of food than walmart no one was wearing gloves or masks oh and some guy coughed out into the open so thats awesome|1 Well neglect is a slower and more painful death BUT theres no recovery from a bullet in the head and most people who get COVID19 do not actually die|0 That is absolutely ok and a legitimate reason to stockpile The reason stuff is running out is because of healthy people panic buying en masse dozens of milk cartons and TP packs etc and oftentimes trying to resell for a profit As a result vulnerable people or families such as yours have to put themselves at risk several times to fulfill their needs If everyone bought according to their necessities which depend on which health category they belong to there would be no shortage of anything even for a few daysPro tip Healthy people should only buy twice as much to avoid going out often and eat a little less daily since were mostly sitting on our butts at home That will last us for a good 2 weeks maybe a little more And no matter how healthy we think we are we need to avoid the elderly and the sick because we might be carriers|1 aah thats kind of what I had figured Thank you Stay safe3|1 ICU will probably prioritize people who are likely to survive who are younger and otherwise healthy This means that we can expect people who manage to get a bed in the ICU to survive more than weve seen so far in the ICU|1 Im glad they are putting their people first|1 Do you know what happens to those who have no Medicare Medicaid or other health care insurance Thats about 40 million Americans Who pays for their testsThe fact that Americans have to wonder about how a test will be paid for just shows how ridiculous the US health care system is|1 The Chinese Communist Pestilence infected the WHO first|0 Right For the regular flu I have not heard of a single death from coronavirus in children|0 plus food and bills It is completely understandable that those people rather go to work sick or risk getting sick because they dont want lose EVERYTHING they have Your chance of dying from coronavirus is 3 your chance of getting evicted if you dont pay rent is 100 And letss not even talk about the hospital bills|0 Better learn to swimlol|1 This petition was likely made by someone who was not aware of that I simply shared it because I saw that it was gaining an enormous amount of traction|1 People are overreacting Quoting religious passages and claiming its a bioweapon or banning all trade with China its all crazy|0 And the questions were answered Both sides here were amateurs Pro reporters ask tame questions to avoid getting ostracized The pro speakers typically will use weasel words cut it of short have staged questions and spew on with pre canned nonsense instead of answering questions directly This was great to watch|0 2 friends who are doctors at different hospitals Theyre complaining today about the hospitals wont order the tests because they take 5 days to get results Said they will order the new test that take less than a day|1 Yall gonna be the curve again Just like 1918|1 Worked in the food industry from 20052010 from what OP says seems that nothing has changed Those money hungry assholes are still the same|0 True numbers maybe|1 Better learn to swim|1 bullshit other presidents nominate cabinet members Trump is just leaving important jobs unfilled This is not typical behavior of a president Before you say but OBAMA it was republicans in Congress that refused to do their job and vote to approve many of his appointments especially judicial appointments Please dont attempt to normalize Trumps behavior I dont want this sub to devolve into politics but even his supporters dont try to pretend his behavior as a president is remotely normal|1 Pompous prick giving all Americans a bad name|0 So price gouging might not be as bad as everyone claims it is |1 Weve only performed less than 1000 tests as of the beginning of this week There have certainly been pneumonia induced deaths that were hunched off as influenza related Its the ignorance is bliss philosophy If you dont test for it you dont have it Id bet my salary on 10000 cases in the US undetected and double down on 100 C19 related deaths undetected|1 Thank you 3|1 For anyone ordering in realize that the people who prepped and delivered your food may have the virus So after you pay for it and remove it from the packaging but before you eat it wash your hands wellAn abundance of caution and good hand hygiene goes a long way|1 Yep my grandpa is 86 and he was doing handywork for all his neighbours until last year Now hes on blood thinners so he has to take it easy and is bored all the time|1 Even for younger healthy adults you could end up with scarred lungs Or other lasting damage And although it is rare it might just kill you anyway It happens Plus you could spread it to other people who could die Its a scary virus|0 Spanish flu was not original from Spain|0 I hear that Im addicted to caffeine also Michael Pollan author of the Ominvores dilemma just published a book on caffeine that seems pretty good Let me share a personal anecdote at one point in my life I was actively and fervently working to build up the whole offgrid thing Learning to hunt more diverse types of game and take the results more seriously fish more efficiently and with purpose took foraging courses and read dozens of books practiced regularly started wild gardens all over the woods grew a big domestic garden and did canning considering livestock but never got there After one really successful year I got overconfident and decided to live off only food that I had grew hunted fished or foraged I read about someone who did it for year so I aimed at six monthsI almost made it to three months two months three weeks and a day or two See I have a regular job I still needed to go to so doughnuts are sometimes waved in my face I still had to shop in stores with regular food although towards the end I was actually getting comfortable with the diet I had a bad day one day and got a frozen pizza on the way home and now Im back to a largely bought diet I doubt I ate more than fifty pounds of selfprovided food last year Maybe The hunger wasnt bad There were days where it bugged me but nothing I couldnt handle eventually I got hungry enough to eat the least appealing thing I had which was often beans One day I stopped in a field on the way home and was really hungry and emotionally very drained and unstable and found some wild carrots and I cried That was a very memorable meal I also got very emotionally tied up in the garden When something ate my plants I was not a pleasant person The Caffeine withdrawal was beyond awful It started as headaches that wouldnt really respond to anything except lots of water and advil and I quickly decided that medicine didnt count for my challenge The headches got worse all day I became nauseous I had hand tremors It was damn hard to work my regular job and then Im supposed to go play the outdoors game when I feel like total and whole garbage There were entire days I did nothing because thats all I could do I reset my timer and started taking small doses of caffeine aka one of those five hour energy knockoffs divided into four doses one daily Instant relief I did that for a few weeks before I went entirely caffeine free It was still pretty bad the second time but I was ready for it A year or two later I read about a sort of similar thing it was a primitive skills winter camp where outdoorsy types had to show up make their own gear and then go live in near zero with it for x amount of whatever and hunt their own food as a group and the author of the article asked the guy running it how many made it and what knocked people out and he said he had two or three leg injuries from falls over the year and 75 of everyone that applied quit within a week and a half from Caffeine withdrawalIts brutal Dont underestimate it Maybe not as bad as benzos or dope but way worse than people think it is Going through it during a normal time in your life is one thing going through it while youre sick with a respiratory illness in quarantine during a food shortage or even just an especially stressful time socially Nah broSo quit now while you can so you dont have to quit at a worse time Or stock up Coffee is a vulnerable finicky crop that only grows in a few regions on the planet often areas in conflict demand is high We could see significant increases shortage or rationing of coffee long before basic staples take a hit I cant speak to whether a coffee shortage would mean a caffeine shortage i think its possible or likely that caffeine is largely synthesized from chemical feedstocks Energy drinks are expensive and may have unpredictable mixes of ingredients Its possible to order Caffeine in bulk in greyblue crystalline powder form and mix your own caffeine drinks but its bitter and the feel of it alone is different than mixed with whatever cofactors are normally in coffee and the Ltheanines and shit in energy drinks and you need to keep it locked up and away from kids because it could conceivably kill them if they took a big mouthful Maybe and you need to be careful mixing it yourself Bodybuilders buy it that way to mix custom preworkout blends Im assuming many of them have done the proper research and use the proper amounts of it|0 Source please|1 Not blaming you butif Spain was a federal republic you would be singing a different tune|1 You know that things in the world are more complicated than that and an intelligent person can acknowledge different things at the same time I see no reason why you say this person has a disgustingly negative view of the world Your admonishment seems more negative to me Are you the positivity police|0 Based off what your friend told you are you doing much preparation here Buying some food if it gets serious in the statesI am probably going to go buy like 200 pounds of rice and 100 pounds of beans soon incase it gets bad here so I can hunker down and wait for it to passx200BThank you for sharing this|1 All sorts of Middle class retirees do as well I know a good number of people who worked factory jobs or were public servants like cops or teachers that go down for 12 the year Also lots of people claim Florida residency and buy a trailer spot so they dont have to pay State Income tax So long as they live down there at some point and get their mail delivered there they can try and claim Florida residency|1 No Iran vice President Irani politicians French culture minister and our beloved Hollywood leader Tom Hanks have contracted the disease This virus seems to not spare even the rich and entitled httpsampfrance24comen20200309francescultureministerhascoronavirusFrances culture minister has coronavirus France 24In fact the more a person is an international traveler and hobnobbed the more the odds of him contracting the virus from a similar or higher status person We just cant predict your lipid crowns httpswwwaljazeeracomampnews202003iranvicepresidentministersstrickencoronavirus200311155806337htmlIrans vice president and two ministers stricken by coronavirus|1 Nah still is pretty often|1 Because we dont have spaces to accommodate hundreds of senior citizen not the ressources to move them only to have a case in the new facility tomorrow or the next day because someone was in the incubation period and tested negative Weve been telling it was going to be ugly There we are and its just the first few hundred case|0 Upvoted Good question I am worried about them too Crowded sick without sanitation hungry Food banks are closing in some places too I think we could ask the missions and donate money to them The homeless in Greater Vancouver is a NEW thing brought on in part by the extreme increase in housing prices|1 A guy flew into Sydney then flew out of Melbourne and arrived at the Gold Coast on Monday confirmed with Coronavirus on Wednesday four others with symptoms Others on the flight are being told to wash their hands No quarantine|0 How much of this skepticism comes from people not liking the party that made the decisionI guess it doesnt matter lets all just go protest in a crowd and hope our little masks that we arent trained to wear properly protect us from spreading a virus If these assholes were concerned at all they would stay home|0 A lot of Americans seem very excited for a taste of the boot|1 So the real problem I see here is they require a diagnosisLook at the overwhelming number of reports both globally and especially in the US saying I have all the symptoms of this but doctors refuse to test me|0 No electricitywater outages in China I dont think its gonna get that worse Might somewhat disrupt our lives but not to the point of major outages|0 Click the gfycat link next to OPs name at the top|1 Numerous countries have global health offices and infection control programs in Cambodia The US alone maintains three CDC offices there in addition to all of the AID staff and development programsCambodias government and Hun Sen were will aware of the risks involved and the government was explicitly told this was a terrible idea and given numerous reasons whyThe same holds true for the US Ambassador there He was told why this was a bad idea by health experts Did it anyway He needs to be recalled and relieved of duty|0 I mean this is coming from a company whose logo is literally the whore of babylon|0 Every country is hiding the real numbers You cant even look for the number of pneumonia deaths in the us So yeah|1 Really because the CDC stopped issuing testing numbers their test is innaccurate their testing protocol was a steaming pile of garbage it is out in community transfers with no ability to get to source and a cruise ship in Baltimore just had 80 infected|0 facebook has been going on a censorship spree tonight I am thinking something huge is coming tonight possibly national guard overnight to prevent people from panic fleeing|0 Sincerly god bless all of them|1 Why is she touching her face This makes me nervous|0 Yes|1 The L strain and S strain thing are divergent by only 2 nucleotides about 20 000 bp apart I dont think a PCR assay that discriminates those needs to happen yet We really just need to catch all true cases Furthermore there is a lot of pushback from the scientific community about that paper I would not be surprised if this hypothesis is dead by this time next week|0 Agree 10th is the earliest if any companies want to open up But many companies are still closed or only partially operational or work from home as much as possible|1 I think its fair to say its probably all over the world now more or less The countries not reporting it arent looking and the carriers have mildno symptomsDisclaimer This post brought to you by my basically uneducated assumptions|1 People keep commenting on what scumbag assholes these people are and I agree 100 but this is what you get with unregulated capitalism and a broken education systemyou cant really blame them you get what you pay for|0 No wonder for a country that labels a bit of rain and wind as code red They have no clue about real issues|0 Of course but if youre in severe condition then dont think many would care If its used as preventative treatment then fair enough |1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200328 163814 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003282016381420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfil3mmnewtheuspressayshehasbeentestedforfkhq5uucontext36 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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would profit from your continued endangerment be the ones to decide your fateYes This is a decent man|1 A low death rate of 23 is still really problematic internationally if the virus is infectious enough If hospitals are overwhelmed due to infections people with everyday conditions can die as a result It has the potential for a ripple effect Especially in 3rd world countries of courseNot to mention the economic impact of societies essentially shutting down for multiple weeksmonths|0 Yes and you can be sure that they are not being properly laid to rest by whatever customs their families might expect It also proves the rumour that the dead are being shipped off to the crematorium immediately without proper documentation I can appreciate the circumstances are dire but honesty not obfuscation is how you deal with it|1 Please inform yourself|1 They can afford to go to the doctor but theyd be hit with thousands in debt|0 I think you misinterpreted what I meant by WHO|0 Thanks This is why people who dont know what they are talking about are dangerous in these subsnot you the below poster|0 On one hand though this kind of reminds me what they tell you to do one airplanes when the gas masks drop put your own mask on and then help othersIf youre telling other young people to not worry that this mainly effects old people then young people can worry less about themselves and actually help their elders|1 Warn Madagascar now|0 Ive had a non cosmetic rhinoplasty Totally changed my life for the better I can breathe through my nose|1 Thank you Please keep this concept in mind over the next couple of weeks Maybe its not ventilators but you may know the opportunity when you see it Please share and support your community however possible Its time to rewrite our ideas of charity and being good neighbors|1 Again were doing that among other things Like touring the venue etc And if either of us gets sick its obvious we wouldnt goI think its easy to pass harsh judgment when youre not the one making the sacrifice But thanks for saying were irresponsible and selfish and spreading the falsehood that most Canadian cases are from travel from the US|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 End Hardly This will just trim off the excess Kinda like a Darwinian experiment And I say this as someone with a comorbidity risk It will be the end for some and those that survive will be better off with what comes out of all this|1 That name Novel Corona Virus 2019 was basically like saying Unnamed New Corona Virus That Showed up in 2019 Now it has a more distinct name|1 M4A starting to sound better and better|1 I love that he gave this information out to a large gathering of people|1 Oh thats just so fucking considerate|1 Making masks out of things like neoprene deconstructed plastic bags with paper towels old tshirtscotton or even just wearing a scarf over your mouth these are not all medical grade but they will prevent most dropletsyou from hacking everywhere and touching your face I dont understand why its buy a mask or nothing Drop them in a plastic bag when youre done and disinfect them and wash Ive been doing this on public transit for years its so grossEdit You must also know and prescribe to proper mask hygieneuse otherwise its all pointless Its not hard to learn how to use a mask apparently the US gov thinks we wouldnt understand|1 Hahaha true|1 Makes sense but lets agree to disagree I see where you are coming from but I dont believe its a net positive|1 Does NY State have a mandatory lock downIf not I dont want to hear shit|0 We are about to get tough or die|0 It could also help them down the line People never think about it but these people are the ones that keep the lights on Without them its pretty difficult to get things done All those people will have lots of knowledge about their specific work specifically at Microsoft Sure they could hire someone else to do it But it wont be as efficient And those employees wont be nearly as loyal as these ones will be afterwards|0 Youre right WHO has r0 of Spanish flu as 2 and mortality as 25 You can find their numbers in the source articles|0 Exactly While some families have both spouses working in patient care most only have one parent working directly with patients so spouses caring for kids can work for a lot of families I work in healthcare but am not patient facing or an essential employee I would happily watch one familys kids if it was needed so the parents could continue to care for patients My watching a few kids in my home is far better than the alternative of having hundreds of kids continue to be surrounded by and infecting each other in school|1 I do understand that its frustrating but they have teachers they would like to pay as well There is no right answer really I have two children in daycare and all of my states schools are closed too so I really do understand the frustration Up until today I needed that daycare to be open because my company would not allow me to work from home even though it is 100 a non essential industry and I can do literally every aspect of my job from home I finally just left and they are still open and requiring employees to come in tomorrow I will pull my kids from daycare and I dont have an issue with still paying as long as the teachers still get paid their regular salary Is it fair to me Not really I just know that the teachers love my children and they deserve paychecks too and they need the money far more than I do|1 Its also because they have run out of beds and equipment Theyve had to triage who to treat based on who has the biggest chance of survival for almost a week alreadyItll be the same everywhere else that gets more than a handful at any given time|1 5075 was a different set of data from a different article from a different population sample that was one capture in time Those people may have gone on to get symptomsThis 179 is for people who never show symptomsKeep in mind all these studies are still on limited scale and rushed accuracy is still up for review|0 I cant find a Wuhan count but Hubei as of the last sitrep has 66000 confirmed cases and a population about 50m so more like 01 for the province|1 I think you have a reading disability Uk has 9 India 3 Nepal 1 Meanwhile US has 20 cases confirmed Their economy is at stake hence hiding the numbers|0 Yeah Im sure its quite chaotic over thereit kinda blew up after mutiple countries started reporting cases from Iran and then they reported the 2 first cases death So maybe it was going undetected for a while or they were down playing not to cause panic who knows|0 Read again you misunderstood him|0 Just 3minutes ago on the most prominent dutch talkshow an expert said it was 1 probably less Knowing these numbers I dont know what the fuck to believe anymore and Im getting a bit annoyed by everything|0 If youre going to make a claim so nonsensical then you have to provide some actual reasoning behind it Right now youre just using loose associations between things that you think will scare people to cover up the fact that your conclusion is complete bullshit Its ineffective at bestGuess you didnt catch it the first time around|0 He never confirmed that he was mocking the situation but when you pair the bullying antics of Matt Gaetz with the cartoonish gas mask he wore which is in no way recommended by the CDC its easy to come to a conclusion|0 Many thanks for pointing us to this document KarlWill make for very interesting reading all 108 pages of it|1 Depends on how bad the short term gets Even if politicians are scum nobody who wants good things in their life wants to see most of their government leaders die in a pandemic|0 For all of you that want to support Patagonia for helping their employees so generously Id like to point out that Patagonia is a certified B Corporation which is essentially a difficult certification to get that requires them to demonstrate how they are good for their community the environment and their employeesIf you want to support more companies like this one heres a website that talks more about B corps httpsbcorporationnetaboutbcorps|1 Yeah thats my understanding too swab so far up your nose it feels like its in your brain or option 2 is cough up a disgusting degree of deep mucus|1 I have severe Generalized anxiety disorder Ive honestly felt so sick over this|0 Id love to I work from home Im prepped for 3 months the only problem is I have kids in school What are the ramifications of pulling them out By the time my district decides to close it will be way too late|1 at least 80 are already occupied by people sick with other illnesses and ICU beds no way will there be enough of those ditto ventilators|0 No|0 Most of the dried goods and canned goods were gone along with a lot of the fresh and frozen meatwhen I went today Everything else is there I did a bit of a shop of storable items among what was left and Ill try again in a few days|0 If President Trump falls then we all fall The only thing that makes us different from other nations that are crumbling to this flu is that we have President Trump at ths gelman and m oi st of us are saved by Christ We should all be praying for President Trump |1 Yes delivery will still be allowed|1 Thats awesome I was basing mine of the reddit bot as a lot of subreddits do that too |1 Happy cake day|1 I can understand trumps intent behind the proposal His short sighted brain thought if he could get the laboratory working in the states and its announced a now American company came up with a curevaccine his ratings would bigly soar high high high because he single handedly saved the world I dont believe he would have made it US exclusive he just wanted to be the name behind it But what he didnt realize is the world is much bigger than his stupid self We dont give a fuck about who comes up with a cure just that its created Whats ironic is that just by putting money into helping this overseas lab find a cure he could have taken a little bit of credit But nope this shit majestically blew up in his face and now hes a laughing stock He expected it to not come to light and now that it is He expected his approval rating to soar now its tanking just like the stock market The virus probably isnt as big of a deal as it should be But his handling of the situation is inciting fear|1 UGH Fulton built a few in regardless of weather I havent seen what it is before My kid is in K so I assume it will mostly be what hes already been doing on the computer at home|0 Trump will never do that He thinks itll hurt his networth reelection chance|0 There is no virus in ba sing se|0 They did that ban days ago It doesnt include regular citizens|0 My mom has severe respiratory issues and lives with myself my partner and my baby Weve isolated ourselves for the last week when a case was announced in our city It seems like in this last week the concern has increased ten fold and schools and major events are being cancelled I think in another week we will see more and more people in the US finally understanding the severity of this virus|0 I was told that our safety was paramount but we wont close unless the state forces a shutdown|1 Guidelines are a new cough or fever Does anyone know if the guidelines are that only the affected isolate for 7 days or whole household|0 Christ how many times does stuff like this have to be posted They dont have enough tests to test anywhere near enough people to confirm nCov theyre not cooking the books theyre just incapable due to missing tests This has been known for a couple of weeks at least|0 My mother was like this to my dad They did not have a happy marriage and my mother complained about every little thing my dad bought frivolous or notMy dad wouldve divorced my mom but he stayed and dealt with it for the sake of me and my siblingsIts reasonable to argue about big ticket items that are lifechanging But if your wife is giving you shit for buying stuff especially when its for your own survival theres something going on with your marriage|0 Im much better actually Not much of a cough left now thank you for asking|1 And yeah government is taking it serious we know we are extremely unprepared so we are expecting new instructions everyday We hope we can go through this in the best way|1 8 positive cases doesnt generally mean much until its a consistent trend over four days Im not putting much into this If theres a community spread were unfortunately not going to know of any major trend until two weeks from yesterday|1 Frankly Im sick of hearing about news like this You reap what you sow as a society The economy incentives of containing this ASAP far outweigh he economic incentives of some concerts and festivals that just have to go on|1 Thanks for sharing your thoughts as for myself I take care of what is in the MOMENT Buy food prepping good books to read movies hobby stuff I can text friends and family no problem I look forward to staying indoors and being alone which doesnt bother me one bit its all temporary In short Im calm If something else happens Ill take care of it Why feel scared Your like a rabbit running all over the place and no one is holding a gunrelax|1 She stopped by to show you a scratchnsniff while she had the flu|0 Were fine|1 Id be happy if I could ever trust CCP numbers|1 Yeah Ive always lived in Hurricane prone areas and this is true for those emergencies as well|1 Yeah its really too bad we dont have an authoritarian police state in the US|0 Im driving to work now with a nasty coldpossible flu because we are desperately short on staff nurse Bring on the surgical masks and nonstop handwashing and keeping my fingers crossed charge or management sends me home Cant stay home when patients are coming in 247|0 Washington state is turning out to be the US Wuhan other states are started to show an uptick as well but I think Washington State is having the most sustained transmission and IMO the federal Government should be rallying testing kits masks and supplies to them to help before it gets out of hand|1 Thanks for the thought You very kind I couldnt do something like that Its not pride or anything like that call it being old fashioned|1 I dont think were anywhere near that decision until theres community spread in the area This may very well happen but were not there yet|1 I just get told tocome out of the closet and admit I am a liberal|1 Mustve been so relieving for the mom even though she might not be able to hold her kids anytime soon that her babies are safe and not infected by herself Imagine the grief and unnecessary guilt the mom wouldve felt had they been born with the virus|1 Could you eat edibles If you have access to dry herb itself you could make edibles very easily yourself too You could even just take the cannabis out of the joints and make THC infused butter so you could put it on things Edibles hit so hard theyre so effective If youre smoking CBD you could also make CBD edibles|1 Yeaaah millennials are mostly in their thirties now I am almost done with college and I am Gen Z I got to say while there are a lot of high school college kids who think this is a joke there are just as many adults who think the same I actually get more stupid stares from older people when I wear a mask in public oh and dont get me started on the older people on facebook|0 Uhh its not my article dude relax I just posted it didnt think it would strike such a deep nerve in anyone lol RidiculousAlso I believe Mr Bedford is a highly respected scientist Not sure what you are|1 Getting anxious as fuck now boys and lady boys|0 Heres a fresh article in English detailing the stress and exhaustion faced by local medical staff amidst the outbreakhttpswwwkoreatimescokrwwwnation202003113285427html Bolded emphasis mine Doctors nurses and other medical professionals here are complaining about fatigue and exhaustion as the number of coronavirus patients continues to increase in Daegu and other parts of the country according to officials from local governments and hospitals Monday Acute fatigue has led some nurses to quit en masse causing shortages in Daegu and neighboring North Gyeongsang Province which the new coronavirus has hit hardest Pohang Medical Center in North Gyeongsang Province which the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention designated as a hospital to handle exclusively coronavirus patients is grappling with a shortage of medical personnel after 16 of about 100 nurses quit last week The 16 nurses cited overwork in addition to personal reasons such as the need to take care of their children as their reasons for quitting Medical staff at hospitals designated to care for coronavirus patients must stay within the hospital and are not allowed to return to their homes until the outbreak ends Pohang Medical Center was put on emergency alert for a while after some nurses quit their jobs but there will not be any big problems as we have received replacement nurses and volunteer workers a North Gyeongsang Provincial Government official said We will continue to help local hospitals with various means of support so patients receive treatment without difficulty Keimyung University Dongsan Medical Center in Daegu said it needed more medical personnel adding that a doctor specializing in infectious diseases had fallen unconscious from serious fatigue However the doctor continued to attend to patients once he had regained consciousness according to the hospital An increasing number of medical staff at other hospitals including Andong Medical Center also say they intend to resign because they are at their limit Nurses at other hospitals could quit their jobs en masse soon like those in Pohang Medical Center if conditions do not change a hospital official who asked not to be named said Later on Monday in a bid to encourage and support medical staff North Gyeongsang Provincial Government said it would pay staff an increased wage until the public health crisis ends Doctors will receive up to an additional 550000 won 460 a day while nurses will receive an extra 300000 won|1 Theres a difference between killing civilians as a byproduct of getting rid of tyrants and terrorists and killing your own population like Stalin and Mao Stalin killed between 5 20 million httpswwwnytimescom19890204worldmajorsovietpapersays20milliondiedasvictimsofstalinhtmlMao killed up to 65 millionhttpswwwheritageorgasiacommentarythelegacymaozedongmassmurderYou can come nowhere near comparing them with the US who created NATO UN and helped establish one of the most peaceful ears in humanitys history|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Lol i was going to say what systems The rich get help and the poor die is what its feeling like|1 The moderation on it was actually working to make it a whole lot better and then they did that big AMA yesterday and it got hit by eternal September again Among other things like the 50 Cent Army Internet Research Agency and probably 4 Chan too|1 China has been killing foreign citizens for years by exporting fentanyl a form of bio terrorism They have promised but never cracked down on its manufacturers who work with an industrial setup Now they are exporting Wuhan virus to the world This is not new for China|0 You are 100 correct Once you run out of beds ventilators doctors and nurses the mortality rate goes up way up I have been asking my two kids high school juniors Minnesota for the past 3 weeks what are they telling you in school The answer has been nothing I have been asking everyday This past Friday 26 they said there has been a little discussion in biology and another class We have been told if sick to stay home we should wash our hands dont touch our faces and not to worry because it not really affecting our age group What|0 The theory is in line with what we know about natural selection It makes sense that a more deadly strain of the flu would proliferate if you exposed more people to those who happened to have a mutated strain that caused more severe symptoms and higher mortality The highmortality strain ended up being artificially selected for under the manmade conditions of WWI Thats what I meant|0 Thats all I could think about when I read thatHow would hospitals keep up Like I just dont see how its possible|1 LA Kings and LA LakersI have tickets to a well known Californian basketball squadron coming up and am shit scared about going to a giant stadium The only idea I had was to go full its Corona time and where PPE to the game Plus my DLo jersey because that way when I burn my clothing I wont lose anything valuable haha jk I still have love for my man DLoEDIT before a million people correct me arena I know I call everything a stadium|1 Thanks for doing this What myths do you think are the most important to debunk for the general public|1 I pay taxes to bail out wallstreet obviously|0 Call it a fucking pandemic already Im so tired of the Trumps Tedros and other incompetent officials of the world Where is the brave president giving a speech to the american people that there are dark times ahead but we will persevere Where is the worldwide effortIf the movie contagion had this response it would be seen as unrealistic|0 This is the ONLY thing I agree with Trump on NAFTA ruined my family which was in the textile manufacturing business Everything got sent to China and weve paid hard in so many ways as a country|0 Keep posts on topic In general we dont need new posts that are jokes memes shitposts or other unhelpful and unrelated comments|1 Politicians are so fucking dumb If I were a parent living in Australia I would send my kindest fuck off to the principle and keep my kids at home|0 I have the full story They fd up but not majorly and in normal circumstances their mistake wouldnt have been fireable There is precedent that it hasnt been fireable in the past and other employees who would vouch for that There is no employee manual saying what constitutes a fireable offence and no outlined policy on writeups or terminations so precedent and whim is all they have to run on Hence why I think its actually related to CV and not the circumstances of the mistake my partner made|0 Yo that cheese filler in the burritos IS pretty tasty thats a really great point 1for Taco Bell|1 In a just world this would seriously be the punishment|0 Isnt the anxiety just fing awesome s I think the worst part is that most other folks arent able to grasp the immensity of how serious this could be for people with other unseen and uncommon health issues So many of my friends dont know that I struggle with autoimmune stuff Ive tried to casually bring COVID19 up with friends and they immediately label me as a doomer and shame me for wanting to feel prepared and BE prepared Like f you Yall dont have an autoimmune disease to be worried about|1 It also depends on how quickly hospitals get overwhelmedGiven that the US isnt testing and isnt getting good information and given that hospitals in the US aim to maximize profit to stay in business meaning they want to have no more beds staff and equipment than is necessary hospitals will almost assuredly get overwhelmed quickly|1 Please educate us with the correct knowledgex200BThank you|1 I dont want to be skeptical nor do i want to be disrespectful towards these ppl they were very brave men and women who sacrificed themselves for others but i think CCP are trying to decrease the impact of the death of Dr Li Wenliang by making these informations available to the public Its a classic communication task ppl wants to show their respect towards the deceased Usually we like to personalize the mass and remember the victims via likeable persons Dr Li Wenliang was perfect for that he fought in the front line got the illness and the virus defeated him But from the aspect of the Chinese gov he was a terrible option for the people to mourn the deceaseds via him He tried to warn the public about the virus and got silenced and reprimanded by the police In this case their govs best option is to give the people names and stories to remember so they can decrease the influence of Dr Li Wenliangs story I know it is skeptical like hell but that is how political communication works|0 If the aim is suppress the growth why arent they taking action to slow the growth As someone that works in healthcare i can assure you were at breaking point before covid19 No supplies no staff and no space But dont worry the government want to slow the growth to manageable rates by letting people work and go to school Until this evening the advise was families with 1 case should carry on as normal that is insanity considering what youre blinding walking intoSo sure it should be top comment it shows how out of touch the special advisers are of the front line 99 of nhs staff say they have no faith in the plan as is 99 believe we will break in the next week or so|1 Rest In Peace|1 I have some hope that our Island geography and our contact tracing and good handwashing message might mean we have a slower growth rate than Germany Italy or SpainBut the cynic in me just says we are testing less I mean I have a son off school with a bad dry cough and a fever They have prescribed him steroids and antibiotics without a swab to see if its bacteria But they havent tested If they arent testing people presenting with dry coughs and fevers then how do we know how many cases we have|1 All politicians are bullshit|0 Did they actually Like theyre the ones that discovered this jfc|1 How gracious of them|1 The fearmongering on all of reddit about this is insane But reddit is an overreaction machine I only hope that most people will be more reasonable and not fall to panic like reddit has|1 The general consensus in the heartland where I live is this is all media hype Media trying to scare people make trump look bad yada yada yada Shit that happens in New York and LA is of no concern|0 Tbh theyre right China should be responsible for how bad its now bc of their coverups|0 The fuck are you doing at a coffee shop anyways|0 I have healthcare Im also stuck with thousands of dollars in medical debt No Im not dirt poor But Im a slave to my medical debt and since I have a chronic condition itll never be paid off And I still avoid going to the doctor for a lot of things because of the high copays and the fact that I know insurance will deny necessary care so often Why bother to have a doctor tell me I need a treatment if my insurance doesnt want to pay for it|0 You misunderstand the word globalization They dont mean people thinking we are all the same inhabitants of spaceship earth they mean using sweatshops to produce stuff for cheap and shipping it to rich countries for profitIf supply lines cannot be trusted there will be more interest in reshoring|1 Last week the school board superintendent told me that if I pull my kids out and they miss more than two weeks they will FAIL their grades even if they are A students|0 Sorry just assuming your all American and tbh can i have some insight as to why im brainwashed Not just fun poking|0 The working class dont need anymore of our condescending appreciation They need a livable wage and a state that works in their interest|1 Yes and no It will show how quick the initial contagion is and how good quarantine works but it wont show realistic reinfection numbers due to functional isolation you wont get in real world cities|0 Sweden has three more suspected cases reported todayEdit Aaaand now its 6 suspected cases in Stockholm|0 Ready player one|1 Infants get antibodies passed through the placenta from the mother during the last 3 months of pregnancy The baby also gets more antibodies and immune promoting substances in breast milk If the mother is sick her antibodies are given to the baby|1 Proud to be a serb for once No med bills boiiiii|1 Or the whole its hype This comes around every election Yes it was so clever of the Italians to shut down their whole country to affect our election But those Iranians really outdid themselves selling the hype with their mass graves|1 Maybe one of the Senate staffers who tested positive|1 No idea Thats why I posted it Ill bet MacGyver could rig up a temporary one with stuff from a garden shed though and hes just one man|0 I love you Italy|1 Public health grad student here Friends also in public health were not taking this seriously at all until Saratoga saw cases because to them it was just a NYC issue Now theyre trying to stock up My university held a public forum to discuss coronavirus they didnt see the issue with this but I know another university in the area told students to overpack for spring break because theres a good chance classes would be moved online So maybe people are starting to catch on|1 Entirely the governments fault if thats the case If the official line is that its fine then how are the old and outside of regular community folks meant to know especially if they arent online|0 Lol None of these hopers posts have aged wellI keep wishing they would though|1 a lot of industries will have pretty generous regulations waivers over the next few weeks They are giving 3M liability waivers for those who use their construction masks which are still effective to fight corona but not officially rated|1 People were adviced to stay in selfimposed quaraintine in Spain People were sent to work from home Basic quarantine protocols were placed early but they werent taken seriously enough This is not basic this is a full lockdown where the state reserves the right to intervene private property private hospitals for example and people arent allowed to walk around Businesses are closed Millions are going to lose their incomes for who knows how longProps to your country for taking things seriously earlier but these are not easy decisions to make Please dont call them basic|0 This one is good too httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 Thats a disgrace the 2019NcoV are the worst kind of illegal immigrants|0 Its good news because children arent getting put in critical condition they arent clogging up hospitals and they arent dying Youre right that we need to be careful but I mean come on kids not dying good|1 Im not willing to put my family at risk of dying for a government who doesnt give a shit about them FTFY|1 Kinda what I figured Right now everyone is in panic mode so sure it might drop a bit but when it settles eh|0 It unfortunately would mean that many countries would be completely steamrolled for a few months akin to whats happening in Italy right now as any attempts of effective control pretty much go out the window noOn the plus side it would also probably mean that the spook would be over after thatCould it be that several asian countries like SK were ironically lucky by being closer to China therefore implementing rigorous containment regimes and blanket testing very early on before the virus was already endemic within the population|1 Because SARS went away no funding no career for weirdos who still wanted to pursue it Thats academia|0 Thank you |1 But thats how youre left with only incompetent people|0 My understanding was the US Congress has offered 66 of typical take home So it will be much better than the 450 an hour or whatever it was|1 YepEDIT Just read the entire thread and am now confusedIs it possible that the map reflects the true spread and the numbers are way offIdk|1 Im 33 but if I end up getting pretty ill from it they should definitely treat a young person instead Ive been depressed for most of my life and itd be a waste of resources to revive someone who wanted to die but was too much of a coward to succeed 3 timesIf I die via illness instead of suicide at least the last few friendsfamily I have wont be disappointed|0 Its way easier to detect alcohol than something like this Its not like theres a breathalyzer factory and nobody turned the dial to virus until now|1 Its possible he just got a false negative too|0 No they likely do not have more cases than rest of world combinedshaking my head at all the overblown forecasts|0 Everyone acts as if all kids are healthy I work in nyc d75 with medically fragile children At the very least he should close the district for those kids I work with children on ventilators with tracheal tubes and auto immune conditions I will be going to work as long as I am healthy because those kids need supervision but we are co located inside of gen ed schools I am terrified that they will pick something up that could kill them We are disinfecting our own rooms daily we use gloves and we practice proper safety protocols as much as we can But we dont even have what we need Our nurses dont have proper equipment we dont have enough hand sanitizer It is rough|0 Not really Its not the poor who are eating exotic wild animals such as the pangolin but rather some of the uncouth elite|1 As a parent of an infant I was thinking the exact same thing Also most people in their 20s dont have kids and really wouldnt be exposed any more than those in their 30s and 40s|1 FOOK YEAH|1 Alsoyou dont have to stay indoors If youre not sickexposed taking a walk around the block getting some fresh air and sunlight is probably healthier than staying inside Wash your hands beforeafter avoid people etc but the mental and subsequent physical toll of not leaving your house or taking a break from your family has to be considered|0 Sure Chinese scientists claim that the COVID19 virus has probably genetically mutated to two variants Scov Lcov They believe the Lcov is more dangerous featuring higher transmitibility and inflicting more harm on human respiratory system|0 Healthy people die of all sorts of viruses everyday Many viruses can enlarge a persons heart causing heart attackflu is one of them We will probably see many healthy young people die Remember also many people have underlying health issues that doctors didnt see or the person didnt know about|0 or just make it illegal to resale at times like this nothing a few years in prison and a large fine wont fix|0 This is pretty close to a paper on genetic tracing I saw which said doubling every 6|1 Im fine with the narrative because it does no good to panic but precautions still need to be taken|0 Couple things I expect the true number of deaths to be higher than this considering they literally could not test all the people that showed up at hospitals I also expect the true number of infected at least in Wuhan to be absolutely massive Diamond Princess had a 5 death rate and it skewed older 80 of cases were over 60John Campbell said antibody surveys were being done in Wuhan as we speak so we might find out soon enoughThe speed at which this has spread around the globe suggests that mild cases are more numerous than official number suggest|1 I know right It sucks that he had corona but why should we care more about him and his wife having corona than somebodys grandma who died from it|0 Hes being super low and loose about this|1 China brought the world this virus due to their disgusting wet markets I hope they ban those to prevent another outbreak|0 I feel you friend It feels like getting hit by a car only its invisible no one really knows what to do and then theres the horrible risk of sudden worsening years from now Stay strong |0 Yeah I was going to cancel going on your ship of death but you say I can get 200 dollars of free drinks Sure Im on board|1 This is easy Have them sell shares in their companyThis is Bschool 101 you can only raise money through debt or equityAll those shares you bought back start selling them in this market and raise the money you need Thats what the rest of us have to do Sell cars Cash out savings Find ways to raise money or sink into debt I think ANY bailout should be given to the people in the form of cash Let the free market decide which products and services are most important|1 So you missed where I said Only crew members had the short strawFor passengers this is a luxury cruise suits go up to 15000 This is what cabins look likehttpswwwprincesscomhtmlglobalbookshipsdisubmetaIIOh and BTW this is japan here is how some type of hotels especially in touristy areas look likehttpspackmetocomwpcontentuploads201801CapsuleHotelTokyoGinzaBay768x513jpg|0 Would exposure to more people result in being infected with viruses having greater heterozygosity Meaning your body has to fight a more complex genetic adversary because each person you treat is in a pitched battle with a virus that is evolving in real time against the immune system of the hostJust a thought|0 most kids dont have symptoms hence theyre super carriers dont be stupid close the schools|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 He means stopping the spread not buying 7 years worth of breadsticks|0 Yeah the fact that Uber left that detail out makes me suspicious this is nothing more than a public relations stuntThe compensation doesnt even have to be minimum wage since the drivers arent employees|0 So many people posting ridiculous things on FB like we must stick together to get through this like hallo no the last thing you need is to stick to anything or anyone Going out to support your local shop or business because the big corporations can get through this isnt gonna solve the problem|0 I think it will get worse next fall when international students move to their respective schoolcollegeuniversity|0 All the bodybuilders will shrivel up when the steroid supply from China is cut too|0 well china is not communist in the economic sense and I think thats most of the definition of communism|1 Or it could be it mutated to a deadlier form One family of 6 in china was tested and they each had a genetically different variant Ormaybe iran is colder than china and they have their windows closed more If one person inside maybe it travels to all insidenot sure but some guesses why Also customslike they share a pot of food everyone reaching into one potl or eating with fingers rather tha chopsticks Or how they sleep maybe more in one room than separate bedrooms Or bathroom habitsor cooking habits Cultural differences right Lots of reasons|1 That shit doesnt work though|0 Yea they blew the Ebola scare WAAAAAAAY out of proportion compared to this which actually is a real threat|0 not even enough for a funeral But maybe enough to buy a vase for the ashes|0 This sub is full of absolutely insane fearmongering and borderline schizophrenic doomsday preppers Should be banned for the amount of fake shit that gets spread here|0 You are right The KUOW article I read was updated and makes it clear the two people at the nursing facility do not include the deceased Thanks for keeping me know I will edit my previous comment |1 I think it helps reduce the bodys cytokines storm response so you dont end up drowning due to fluid buildup in your lungs|1 I get where youre coming from but until theres a steady enough supply of masks for everybody on the planet then it still makes more sense to focus on providing them to high risk individuals or those with symptoms but are unconfirmed|0 SE Michigan is a big place Plus Ive been pretty well quarantined Youre fine|1 Not testing keeps the numbers artificially low which makes the governments response look better Cities are reporting zero deaths and only a few dozen cases and just writing unspecified pneumonia on the death certificates Well never know the full scale of this pandemic due to lack of testing|0 Hope not How ironic to be quarantined|1 China covered up the initial scale of the infection The rest of the world could have had more time to better prepare with proper knowledge of the gravity of the situation China and its disgusting lack of health codes are sorely to blame and when its said and done a massive classaction suit should be brought against China by governments for the survivors of the victims|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Its been up and down I got tested at a local hospital that advertised testing on Facebook and I found on my Nextdoor app I got super lucky I am also feeling rather fortunate that I just got a job offer for a position where I will get health insurance My current job was supposed to hire me full time and then didnt because of financial issues I really think I will be fine but it does sometimes suck to do the right thing especially when people call you crazy for it|0 I have something similar though I assume its just a cold The weird thing Im having is that its fine until I start talking which really seems to irritate my lings for some reason|0 I was just at Costco today around opening time west coast and had the pleasure of eyeing everyone elses carts Theres definitely a higher portion of people stocking up vs regular large Costco shopping I also overheard a few expertly couples debating what to buy more of But the big one was overheating the assistant managers and a manager debating what they need to order more of One was pretty passionately saying they should try to order more cold fly supplies I was down at the far end checkstand where an assistant manger was bagging to help cover They were also talking about how to deal with people who would have to call out for 2 weeks at a time|1 ExactlyBanning us citizens would have disastrous effects on the Canadian economy Is it worth it Maybe But he doesnt want to be the one to blame|0 Lmao thats brilliant|1 Thats mental and I hate saying things like that as I feel like Americans must think were rubbing the NHS in their faces but I just wish everyone in the world had healthcare access without worrying about payment Theres been talk in recent years about charging for GP visits here but the figure quoted was 10 Im sure that would creep up if it ever gets a foothold|1 Yep studies have shown that phones are more dirty than toilet seats|0 PossiblyExperts envision two scenarios if the new coronavirus isnt containedhttpswwwpbsorgnewshourhealthexpertsenvisiontwoscenariosifthenewcoronavirusisntcontainedThere is some evidence that people can be reinfected with the four coronaviruses and that there is no longlasting immunity Dr Susan Kline an infectious disease specialist at of the University of Minnesota Like rhinoviruses which cause the common cold you could be infected multiple times over your life You can mount an antibody response but it wanes so on subsequent exposure you dont have protection Subsequent infections often produce milder illness however|0 2 weeks after lockdown and only for spread Anyone infected before that will still show up infected|0 Kids will go to school sick I suspect schools will start reporting sick kids to CPS as the only way to deal with it Not that it will do much good but schools will have to do something rather than having sick kids all the time Parents will go to work sick as will nonparents Jobs will find bull shit reasons to fire people who they suspectOther jobs will say fuck it and close down People will lose their jobs and then their homes and property values will drop across the board It is going to be ugly The USA is not equipped to handle quarantines and i guarantee much of Trumps fan base will say its their own fault for not having a savings maybe this will teach themBankruptcy attorneys are about to get very busy|0 I hope you do okay too Buy some N95 masks and stay safe|1 It dont want to hear Florida man crying when they get overwhelmed and their old people start dying|0 Until someone can profit from it|1 But even the WHO is not recommending wearing a mask unless you are sick There is no evidence that wearing a mask will prevent you from getting sickhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemaskshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasks|0 There is no reason to do with it|0 When we have community spread in every state and THIS is the result than no it is not good He should have screened travelers from Italy China Korea and Japan earlier than he did and kept in touch with them about any developing symptoms Were only a few days behind Europe in this It is a deflection with deadly consequences|0 Has volume dropped for your business I am a bank employee and we started seeing a lower number of customers coming in as of yesterday Curious if the good industry is having the same impact|1 I believe I saw it referenced that all NSAIDs should be avoided Pretty sure aspirin falls into the no bucket for that reason|1 Plenty of people are talking about but have any of the antibody tests been approved Most Ive seen were dual|1 Please dont spread misinformation like thisWhile I dont recommend anyone has a baby at home without a professional its perfectly safe to do so with oneMy second child was born at home and I do not at all regret it|1 No MA had a conference that infected like 80 people estimate I cant remember the name of the conference but there have been a lot of posts about itEdit The Biogen Conference|0 10 days is the average amount of time between first infected to hospitalization|0 Or wait for the government to save you and just die I guessJust because your local officials wont test you doesnt mean you dont have the virus People who are sick or think theyve been exposed should 100 self isolate|0 No one is mentioning the lady in the bottom left corner is signalling the Four Horseman are being reunited Ric Flair Arn Anderson Dean Malenko and Chr Uh Sid Vicious|0 The government should pay it Not the businesses This would break many small businesses if they have to pay wages with the doors closed Edit Thank you for the gold kind stranger You got my back I got yours|1 A lot of people who are homeless or housing challenged use PF for showers and such|0 SureI can also blame you for spreading misinformation and then not editing your original comment accordingly when provided with the actual facts that disprove said misinformationYoure part of the problem|0 I was at Kroger on Goss this morning and they have plenty of rice beans canned goods TP paper towels and OTC meds oh and water I didnt check for hand sanitizer soap or tuna so I cant say Good luck out there|0 i had all the symptoms in Feb for about 25 weeks February of 2019 that is lol so it was probably something else|1 It is called Normalcy Bias and it will be our undoinghttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiNormalcybias|0 It could be that they have a lot more hospital beds free now and are able to put in more effort Theyve also learned what works well|1 Yeah its like Corona squared|1 I live in Brooklyn and decided not to send my kids to school since Thursday and I dont care what anybody says Im taking my own precautions We are a family of 5 and no one is leaving the house except me or mom for any supply in need|0 What would happen if you considered 14 days of ICU Im Italian we have only 2 severe cases in Italy and they have been in ICU for two weeks two elder Chinese people from WuHan|0 fuck yeah one positive of this thing is that this kind of cancerous bullshit should be kicked to the fucking curb now|0 Illinois needs to get its shit together now also Bars and restaurants are still open large public gatherings are still allowed and people with symptoms are being denied tests at the hospital The inaction and incompetence of this states government will lead to many preventable deathsUpdate they just closed all restaurants so thats a good move|0 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 This was clamped down after SARS and they made it illegal for a little while|0 Yeah coworker who had a septoplasty last year got a few things on her outer nose fixed at the same time Since theyre digging around in there causing bruising etc might as well She said they filled in a small dent shed had since high school cheerleading when she broke it shaved off the the bump and it was no longer slightly crooked|1 I believe its honestly an inability to comprehend infectious diseases I dont have it so Im fine Its only a cold And so on Even if Im not in an at risk group I dont want it I especially dont want to pass it on to someone in a worse situation than me|0 Do you seriously think they should stop reporting positive cases|1 nobody trusts the number from China that is to be expected You can very well assume the numbers are way worseso if it is reasonable to assume it is worse shouldnt we have done a much more aggressive responseoh wait we fired our CDC pandemic team in 2018 so we can pray about it in 2020|0 Its going to be about 1 which is still high x10 higher than the flu|0 Its already at a kill rate of 355The flu has a kill rate of 015|0 they probably have the best tools available to combat an infectious diseaseTo them thinking bad things about the government is an infectious disease They had years of experience trying to slow the spread of them to call on|0 All this talk about just the flu like why the fuck are we ok with 50k people dying every year We obviously need more awareness on all diseases and force vaccination|0 New Orleans is currently the highest per capita infected city in the US and they were hosting St Pattys block parties all over the fucking city yesterdayWere all fucked|0 Yes if you power them up every couple months the power leak should never reach the level where data is lost from it Leaving it on a shelf for 10 years will|0 And they shake hands every ten seconds|0 These Ive got now come in 4 packs of 100mg each and they are very small Efficient like a pill A whole one is a bit too much for me but 12 is fun For me I fully realize its way more than most people use at one time|1 Seal off a hospital in a medical emergency|0 Its going to hurt a lot of people in their wallets which is going to hurt Its not just locals either People act like theres no downside but the downside is significant|0 Imagine being the WORLD Health Organization and excluding a nation because some other nation will throw a hissy fit|1 What happens when and if they go off lockdown though Nobody seems to talk about this problem very much|0 It makes no economic sense to kill productive workers Even in the worst case some will survive and go back to work Even the harshest regime has no incentive to off them all like that|0 We do here in HK Mask is to protect others if you are a carrier without knowing as much protect yourself|1 I swear to fucking god if COVID19 ever causes our schools in montreal to close and they use google hangouts because its free im going to actually suicide bomb googles headquarters|0 Ive been sanitising all my post mail and all my shopping I spread the items on a dropsheet in my garage then turn on my ozone machine for an hour Afterwards I ventilate wait and bring it in Yes some frozen items have slightly defrosted but I eat only plants so I expect theyll be fine|1 Its JuSt thE FlUSo tired of hearing that|0 Ill say something a bit dark You only have to outlive the initial unprepared I originally planned for one month but Im going to up it to 3 Its not wasting money if you use it eventually If this is as bad as we think youll see quite a few die by one month Even if 500 million die life will still go on Just make it past the unprepared and then hopefully its passed or governments can help|0 Im not sure about other countries but where I am in Singapore even people who have not been to China nor knew they had been in close contact with an infected case but report symptoms that dont seem to get better with the typical treatments for flucough etc can get tested at our hospitals and national centre for infectious diseasesAlso when three cases came up that our health ministrys contact tracing team couldnt determine which of the existing infected cases or where else they had gotten it from they roped in the polices criminal investigation dept CID to help and finally managed to trace that it was linked to two of the early cases Chinese nationals who had arrived from Wuhan They had visited the same church that the three local cases also attendhttpswwwtodayonlinecomsingaporecidofficershelpedmohidentifywuhancoronavirusclusterpayalebarchurchpolicegetinvolvedPS The importance of tracing and linking up all the infected cases is so that we can know just which stages we are at whether the virus is spreading far and wide within the community where theres no way to determine where one gets it from or not And that can then reflect nationwide decisions as well as advice to the people on how to manageAs of now the Health ministry has determined that we are at DORSCON level Orange ie Disease is severe and spreads easily from person to person but disease has not spread widely in Singapore and is being contained Impact on daily life is moderate eg quarantine temperature screening visitor restrictions at hospitalsread more about the DORSCON levels here httpswwwgovsgarticlewhatdothedifferentdorsconlevelsmean|0 Experimental drugs under clinical trial are sometimes granted approval for usage in cases where diseases are lifethreatening and there is no other treatment option a ministry official said on condition of anonymity|1 Thats a nice friend Glad you were vindicated|1 If it makes you feel any better you are not alone We my husband and i are taking this VERY seriously We are stocked and still collecting Were prepared for months of being inside Go out once maybe a week to do things We have masks and even have the proper supplies to make masks for our baby rated n95 Im just waiting for the boom cause I feel its coming soon|1 Champions Gate is the worst part all day traffic|0 Thank you and thanks for following|1 Exactly This is the much more likely option that OP ignored|0 The USA thanks the worlds preeminent superpower for their assistancex200B|1 The nearest case to me is about 30 miles away We pulled our son today Who knows when his school could close because of a positive test|1 It starts as a recommendation and then when it isnt followed it becomes enforced This is a good way to gain support for what would otherwise be considered extremely drastic measures|1 True but considering what he was saying when he did look nervous we can only assume the former|0 Heres what I readGrocery stores and pharmacies will remain open and restaurants may stay open to provide takeout food only Also staying open veterinary services gas stations and auto repair shops hardware and other home supply stores banks and laundry services Businesses that remain open are encouraged to keep both employees and customers six feet apart including while standing in line But there are no specific limitations on the number of people allowed inside|1 Exactly I watched the breaking news report of Trump telling the CDC they no longer have any reporting right unless Pence approved it I thought to myself thats gonna be dangerous My state is extremely Pro Trump ironically we have zero cases of the virus |0 We have data on the death rate and the hospitalization rate but everything is else is just thrown under mild symptoms and that could mean anything including being fucking miserable for weeksI want to see what percent of people under 40 are getting pneumonia and what percent just get a bad cough for a couple days recent reports even suggest that the asymptomatic rate is quite highI havent seen anything on the asymptomatic rate I dont even know how we could have that when people arent getting tested unless they have symptoms|0 Its a small town 15k people and it has been on lockdown for more than two weeks so its not that unbelievable|0 Anything You can stop shaking hands to full quarantine Not shaking hands wont have that much effect and full quarantine does Just adjust the slide|0 Also smaller That helps managing it|1 The docs in early Wuhan had no idea what was hitting them so the biggest improvement for the US may simply come from being forewarned as well as forearmed with information from Wuhan about progression and the most effective treatments|1 Just stop|0 The smell of your empire burning will make you say some pretty stupid things|0 This thing could mutate to harm younger people too|0 The young is the super spreaders Most likely Socializing and partying while sick|1 I have spoken in a very muffled way through my clear plastic helmet|1 My parents went on holiday to Florida with my sister and her family just before they closed the borders Apparently its OK because there isnt many cases in Florida yet They dont plan to return for another two weeks Im speechless to be honest|1 I couldnt have said it better myself|1 Household bleach is 5 Does that mean I have to dilute it 150 to get 01 to be effective|1 Its Sunday morning in my part of the world my son is playing Fortnite on PS4 His partner on the microphone has a wicked cough Upon hearing it thru the TV I got sanitizer before I realized |0 I downvoted you for no reason But I agree this is a stupid idea|0 I mean okay they could be an immigrantnonnative English speaker living in Oregon but high alcohol INGREDIENT is not proper English and doesnt sound like a mistake a native speaker would make That and the other errors is what lends me to doubt the credibility in this case|0 Lol|1 without a reasonable reason to be hereIs I want to buy Vla and Frikandel a good reasonI mean the stuff German supermarkets call Vla is usually really bad I need the original |1 anal retentive is a clinical term used by psychiatrists not an insult|1 Its good to see that the selfselecting of overseas passangers travel due to education in the West due to business travel costs still steep for more traditional Chinese household younger infected might indicate that an outbreak in western countries can be avertedBut there are of course also elderly family members of more afluent people who might visit them in the West who might well be in the country for days already under the assumption they have simply smokers cough and a cold and infecting a lot of people around them There has been at least one mass infection event in a hospital in Wuhang meaning that superspreaders are a possibility with this virusThere might also be a danger of tertiary infection in a few weeks via SouthEastAsia India and Africa so the West is not out of the woods here|0 No thanks|1 I was gonna say Keystone Cops but I like clown better|1 Any off the shelf bleach will disinfect just about anything all the way up to cdiff at full strength Most retail bleach ranges between 56 sodium hypoclorite If you are diluting to a certain PPM then you need to follow the label instructions to ensure you achieve the right concentration to disinfect Thats when the concentration of the jug matters as it will dictate whether you need a 19 or 110 ratio etcReady to use bleach is also an option Clorox Clean Up disinfects proxy viruses for SARSCoV2 with a 30 second dwell time|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Yeah but the comment OP mentioned Wolves|1 Italian hospitals are noticing an influx of younger patients Is it possible that this is due to the exposure levels they are experiencing With so many people sick in Italy people are more exposed to the virus This would explain why young healthy medical professionals are dying too Could it be that the more people get sick the worse the symptoms are for everyone|0 People like your daughter give me hope for the future so mad props to you Im currently trying to raise a take on the world daughter myself|1 Excuse my language but what the fuck is going on This is a serious virus A serious issue Is it me or is it that the cdc seems very shady lately|0 There is none its bullshit and the mods removed it|1 Patient was an elderly adult with underlying health conditions They were a passenger on board the Grand Princess cruise ship|1 I agree with both of your points but I also think that maybe there is a tiny amount of time for panic Ive noticed this twice recently with myself with COVID19 when it was still novel coronavirus yet to be named and less than a month before that with the Australian bushfires new years eveday from a little before midnight to 67am at which point I finally got some sleep while a RATIONAL friend of mine was telling me to bail ASAP throw together the basics for an evac bag and just get the fuck out There was a HUGE blaze that raged for 2 months near my town The few days preceedingduring this period a few smaller towns just 30min1hr from mine were decimated by these apocalyptic skyliterallyturningredandblack fires and I was watching updates on another fire Mallacoota that was further east on the coast If you saw the photos of people in boats wearing face masks under that red hazy sky that is the night I spent with hours in panic knowing I was unprepared a lot of people saying itll never happen here and watching this unfold Some of my texts to my friend were literallyFuuuuck its really smoky here all of a sudden Theres been a solid WALL OF FIRE building and it might be coming this way Fuckfuckfuck idk when to actually panic and haul ass They issued a dont wait leave now warning 10km away yesterday arvo But weve had fires closeish about half the time since October um when do I go and where do I go And will it be on fire too Cause then I might as well stay here notethis actually happened this summer people in evac centres then had to shelter in place as the evac centre was hit by the fires And thats if you even HAD an evac centre my best option was to find a public park or a street closer to the centre on town and literally huddle hoping the fire doesnt get too close They opened a proper evac centre in my town days later but this was still primarily for the people evacuates from the nearby towns and a last case resort ifwhen my town was under immediate threatI have no clue where to go because its like this almost all the time now The fucking wind changes direction every fucking hour and wtf its always kinda sorta heading this way for a bit and then not Like I gotta straight up move for 6 months to be safeAnd everywhere else is on fire too or it will be And Im spiralling in panic I know but I srsly have no clue what to do Months of thisOh wait two new fires in the other direction Just what we needed ahhhhhh fuckLike why the fuck would they do fireworks tonight when were at this level of fucking FIRE FIRE FIRE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES FIRE and also hey come see our fun fireinthesky show everything is fineMy options are a park or a couple streets over like parked in the street or just move house FuckLike they have an evacuation centre for the people who just ran from the fire a couple suburbs over Where do they go when youve evacuated the evacuation centre The wind is always nuts here its turning back around and around and around Like every direction at random for an hour And weve been conditioned into thinking its all fine all the time so I have no clue when it actually isnt But its both somehow But its never fucking safe where am I going how do I live in a car forever straight up panic And theres always bogans doing burnouts down the road so I cant tell when normal people are bailing in the middle of the night I hope fire cant jump a dam And when did this become a serious consideration Like zero proactive planning for my area why arent we having community meetings or getting any advice when everywhere East of us is fucked and theres fire in every direction Helps so much to have one sane person to talk to Got my bag packed and one for the cat shits bad for a solid week here and idk what were supposed to do its 45 degrees tomorrow hello heatstrokeFamily is no help they were just shouting do I have a bag packed like were leaving then I go ask if we are going or when are we and theyre fucking praying or something Lying down eyes closed not responding wtf peopleAnd Im the only one who thought to get a massive bottle of drinking water and got laughed at for it I had about 2 weeks of extremely serious panic mode the other side of town was under threat from a separate fire on 1112 January The fire I was worried about on NYE was only put out a week ago My point Being able to panic for short amounts of time rather than ignore or bottle it up and NOT confront the issue really helped me get to a state of mind where I could be prepared but not in constant panic unable to function other than AHHHHHHHHHHH or being so frozen in panic I could have died if the fire did actually get here its part of the fightflight response freezing and dissociating are a big part of my complex PTSD from a lifetime of trauma and constant stress and my brain body being in a fightflightfreeze state long term TLDR I think panic can be ok as a way to process that fearanxiety and come to terms with the unknown But not panic as its currently referred to in the media etc where its like you can either be concerned OR panicking Being concerned and prepared is the correct option but if you need to have a freak out for a brief period or even controlled doses of panic during a longer term risk period THATS OK Just use that as a way to process those feelings dont do stupid shit in general but particularly when youre in the brief panic mode and then MAKE YOUR PLAN AND PREPAREIn Australia every single person is encouraged to have a bushfire plan and to reviewgo over this plan with everyone in your house and make sure they understand it and are capable for whatever their part is in the case of elderlychildrenpets you get them out early or let them shelter in place in the house while others who are more physically mentally fit can defend the house Until the fire arrives when everyone has to shelter inside but the defenders watch the fire closely from inside and go back outside to check the property after the fire front has passed to put out spot fires and evaluate if evacuation is needed cause the house is on fire and cant be put out I wish the COVID19 response was to this level Dont just panic but fear and anxiety are ok just make your plan NOW if you havent already and heres our guide on how to properly evaluate your risk and what you should do depending on our ALERT level stay up to date with new developments heres websites and apps to help you track these updates and developments and heres who you can talk to for further advice Sadly we still fell very short in some ways for me the bushfire hotline wasnt around or at least nowhere I looked and I looked for quite a while using a lot of different sources until DAYS after the NYE devastation Still useful but it really should have been there months earlier if not full time and ramped up mentioned in the updates by official channels for those high risk months I also think we should have a risk rating system for pandemics similar to what we have for bushfires in Australia Fire Danger Ratings On most roads here they have the risk rating on signs with an arrow to let you know what the dailycurrent risk is we have a new rating for every day based on the weather conditions Lowmoderate High Very High Severe Extreme CatastrophicCode red and they tell you to know your trigger to change your plan along with based on the rating and their recommendations for that level|0 I too am unsettled by the thought that so many people may be feeling financially desperate due to no current income I do think though that there will be some provisions made some arrangements such as being able to postpone certain bills etc|0 Federal Government wont even stop terrorists derailing trains here no confidence|1 Good idea You can shit in a glove but you cant wear toilet paper|0 Thank you so much A few follow up questions if you dont mind1 Data source pls I would like to keep track myself in the future2 Are they number of tests or number of people testedI think you are 100 right Sadly from the data italy is not plateauing yet In nyc our positive rate is around 20 right now We will hopefully test 7kday by the end of this week so the pct is down Italys positive rate is still very high|1 This is a step towards the delay phase Hospital labs doing Covid19 tests will have to do less of their normal work so other conditions will go untreated while we search for corona This is why we need to let experts lead No point in saving 1 Covid19 death if we get 10 deaths from something we have stopped treating|0 Eh unless theres a cancellation policy that requires you to cancel in advance theres no reason to act yet I have a trip to Spain in a couple weeks and Ill wait till the day before my airbnb cancellation time before making any decisions|0 In studying this virus is cytokine storm playing a role Are there concerns there could be another wave or two like occurred with the Spanish Flu This first wave appears to affect the elderly or those with chronic inflammation already affecting their respiratory tract if there is a second wave that targets those with healthy immune systems that will then overreact are drugs to help manage immune response being looked at|1 Ohh I memba Member staaar wars|0 Blumenthal is just trying to stir the pot to get the markets to tank as much as possible before the election Bad market will be a huge win for democrats against Trump Frankly its shameful behavior If he actually cared he would have leaked the information to the press like they had no problem doing with a fake whistle blower over some frivolous dispute with a tiny country nobody gives a shit about|0 I saw that if you are in a place that didnt get hit with earthquakes your water will be fine but if you live somewhere that gets a ton of snow that can disrupt electricity then you plan Basically plan for your location I got water and canned food just in case since Ill use it anyways|0 It has a 1 percent death rate which even underestimated is presented is not something that concerns me it has sever flu like symptoms It is tough and hard on the elderly but as a young male with no underlying conditions Im not going to panic about it If it becomes wide spread then I will quarantine myself not because Im scared of myself dying but so I dont kill an old person or someone with underlying conditions If the mortality rate hits above 25 and does not distinguish between who it kills and is pure random I will panic Now Im more concerned about my whether my football team winning the champions league|1 Its literally written in the article and in official response the goldeberg capacity did not change since 1976 The capacity is not the absolute numbers of beds but the amount of medical teams to handle the population Israel has literally thousands of unemployed MDs because the Goldeberg capacity had not been updated and they CAN NOT BE EMPLOYED in the public sector Even on looking on the amount of absolute number of hospital beds general admission you would see how dire the situation The number of beds in 1988httpsfsknessetgovilglobaldocsMMM0cef6d8df1f7e41180c800155d01107c20cef6d8df1f7e41180c800155d01107c116836pdf 11988The number of beds in 2008httpsfsknessetgovilglobaldocsMMM0cef6d8df1f7e41180c800155d01107c20cef6d8df1f7e41180c800155d01107c116836pdf 14582 Absolute number of beds in Israel report of 2017httpswwwhealthgovilPublicationsFilesmosadot2017p1pdf The number of beds in 1978 26418The number of beds in 1988 28058The number of beds in 1990 29094The number of beds in 2008 42144The number of beds in 2017 45229 Israeli population in 1978 was 3552296Israeli population in 1988 was 4241785Israeli population in 1990 was 4448348Israeli population in 2008 was 7020832Israeli population in 2017 was 8243848 Israeli number of general admission beds for 1000 people 1978 3261988 2681990 2532008 1972017 180|1 Since when does a bill require a Senate majority to pass it It first needs the approval of one particular senator|1 delete that dumb ass comment please|0 I live in the county on 3 Acres lots of place to put the poop Lol|1 Welcome to China|1 Many thanks |1 Theres more and more proof that mass testing is the right approach especially if you combine it with case tracing which Germany also seems to be doing rather well Itll be interesting to see how the system is able to scale up in the coming 57 days when we should see much bigger numbers|1 CV is much more serious in Europe right nowLol you dont believe the US numbers do you They have been heavily suppressed by disallowing testing Not that its great in Europe either but their numbers are much closer to the truth Chances are cases per capita are about the same or worse in the US|0 Dont be a science denier |1 I wouldnt quite agree with that last part Although we might never know the exact number theres a great chance we can compare the projected deaths for the US based on past data and see how much the actual numbers deviate from the projection|1 Definitely not geez|1 This is my biggest concern Im okay with socially isolating myself from others for weeks but the fact is I wont be getting paid during that time The type of work I do isnt the kind that I can take home with me|0 Luckily in age of Google street view we can see ourselveshttpswwwgooglecommapsplaceKeralaIndia94941973763247853a75y29914h7163tdata3m111e13m91sAF1QipOExxHz4VOPkT9jQy3mL1rrF4g10ygVvTBsTC2e103e116shttps2F2Flh5googleusercontentcom2Fp2FAF1QipOExxHz4VOPkT9jQy3mL1rrF4g10ygVvTBsTC3Dw203h100knopi0ya43403225ro0fo1007i61448i30729m21b12i404m53m41s0x3b0812ffd49cf55b0x64bd90fbed387c998m23d1085051594d762710833|1 Yes hes downplaying I agree Still not sure I see what Trump supports take issue with|1 Country has been dead awhile This is just karma|0 honestly as sad as everything is I will pray this is a wakeup call for many people in the United States but seeing as national tragedies have happened in the past without anything being done about it I have my concerns|0 The stock market seems to agree with you|1 helps with symptoms is totally different than killing the virusto see this illustrated ibuprofin helps with fever symptoms by lowering feverWHO literally says not to take ibuprofin to lower fever with COVID because it makes your body less effective at killing itIm not saying dont gargle with salt water Im saying assume it does fuck all|0 the entire population of europe during the 1500s was less than 80 million there is absolutely no way a continent full primarily of hunter gatherers and subsistence farmers could have had 80 million people and they didnt purposefully kill them either disease did|1 Oh I absolutely realize that Some will come to their senses But I agree most wont Its going to be incredible to witness|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronaviruslouisiana Uhaul offering to help evicted students in needhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruslouisianacommentsfhrw3kuhaulofferingtohelpevictedstudentsinneednbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 As a dutch person its really great how my school has exams coming week and well fail if we dont show up Never thought Id have to choose between education and my own safety Does anyone have any adviceIt dependsConstructive show up to exams in a glove mask and goggles Demand to sit 15 meters away from any other studentNot Constructive show up to exams loudly announce you have a fever cough everywhere barf on the floor and repeat over and over and over what a great trip China was for you last month|1 Products I use regularly OatsRicePeanut butter Sweetened Condensed milk for teaOat milksrice milksCoconut milk coconut cream curriesPasta like so much pastaCanned tomatoes and pasta saucesDried mushroomsNoodles shelf stable driedJust in case i run outSoap shampooDisinfectant Anit bac Hand soapTolietpaperEyedrops Things I wont useMutlivitamin SpamCanned TunaPowdered milkInstant mash potatoesInstant miso soupInstant gravyWierd shelf stable cheddar cheeseInstant noodles V8 juices shelf stable oneI live alone in a studio and I only have a mini fridge so prettty limited in space l go to the market every week for fresh produce and meat And the supermarket once every 23 weeks for pantry items tolietries If I had more space and a freezer i could easily prep food for a month or so My prep is just to minimize trips to super market and also in case everyone wants panic buy like in Italy or supply chain gets fkd I think worst case in my country wed probably still be allowed to go out to the super market and stuff I am totally fkd if electricity goes down though|1 100 true Way to many variables to plan|1 Honestly Id talk to my OB and see what theyd recommend Im crossing my fingers that there may be optionsroutes being created for pregnant women that might not normally be available if nothing else talking to your carebirth team to help develop a plangain information should help reduce anxiety and stressI legit have no idea what options there are but it didnt occur to me until reading your response that pregnant momsbabies are at risk I remember reading that several woman who were COVID19 positive at the time of birth gave birth to babies who tested negative YEAH but yeah your situation just didnt occur to meThoughts and prayers for whatever good that will doEdited for clarity|1 hahaha Now that is a good way to keep people away by at least an arms length|1 As someone who works in the ER we beg you not to buy the supply of n95 masks We need them as we take care of many active sick patients Id there are no doctors available to care for you because we are all Ill secondary to No masks its a disaster|0 What false information That we dont know That we cant know because of the lies of the current administration pared with the abysmal lack of testing The reported numbers do not accurately represent the reality of the situation My family and I know numerous folks personally whom over the past been refused tests while showing the deadly late stage pneumonialike symptoms One of which recently underwent cancer treatment They ALL have been refused tests when requested as they are not priority That is a fact The CDC website listed they had 75000 tests as late last week The Pence press briefing stated they are trying to ramp up from 10000 I am not panicked but if you think I am mad as hell you are god damn right|0 I think all numbers follow this format because of the decimal system we use regardless of the language writing direction The value for each digit is universally agreed on and it doesnt matter which way you start to write as it eventually will lead to the same result|1 Been watching China since early December Im chinese abc and this stuff is quite stressful A ton of negativity will affect you consciously or subconsciously|0 Yeah PC Culture is going to kill a lot of people this year|0 I have two full halfgallons of hand sanitizer that I bought at Costco last week because I actually do use a lot of it Im not even going to look to see how much resellers want for them because Ill just get mad|0 Every word out of his mouth is a lie Hes not working on shit|1 Holy Fuck|0 we know their lives arent any more important than regular civilians everyone should be wearing masks at all times when not at their homes they didnt prepare for this and now were having shortages|0 Classes have been cancelled in a lot of schools and there is definitely awareness but our goverment is downplayingAccording to some projections we will be seing a surge of cases in Mexico between the last week of march and the first of April Where are you headed to|1 Companies are probably avoiding projecting anything into next quarter for reporting purposes even if everyone knows its going to last longer than that|0 I just got back from the dr Dry cough mucus post nasal drip and dr said i was developing bronchitis Gave me claritin and told me it was ok to go to work in the nyc subways Wear a mask|1 no i didnt lmao he is a janitor and has 0 medical experience he has a personal opinion but saying i work in an er means nothing if you are a janitor lmao|0 Hahaha lmaoo The way people react in the face of adversity tells alot about themsmh|1 Plus many people have a pretty insanely high tolerance for eating pb dayin and dayout My wife has happily had pb toast nearly every morning for years|1 The US is most likely the country with the most not diagnosed cases in the world Well besides possibly the Russian Federationbut your point stands regarding the lack of testing here Totally unacceptable|0 I dont disagree If the person I spoke with at my doctors didnt persuade me go get checked I wouldnt have I even said dont you think it might be a bit paranoid to go if Im suffering from what could just be the cold And she said well if I were in your shoes I would definitely go This was from a nurse Anyways in hindsight I was foolish for going I wasnt in a good place of mind and Im still not But sometimes when youre feeling like shit you make mistakes|0 As of today my wife has been experiencing extreme fatigue and my son has developed a cough|0 Islamic prayers mandate on Fridays the devout travel to their local mosque kneel on closely arranged clothe prayer mats and go through the process of bowing many times during the ceremony Proximity and air circulation expand close contact range to include all at the gathering As older adults have more free time to practice their religion they are the ones attending mosque services They are also the group with the highest COVID19 fatality rateCommunal family life is common in Iran With several generations of a family living in the home A setting where an infectious disease can easily spread through the family COVID19 is infectious before symptoms develop entire families become infected with the SARsCoV2 virus These combined elements would permit the outbreak to spread rapidly through communities with high incidence of the cases among the elderly who seem to have a CFR double that of other age groupsEdit redefinition due to additional research|0 Decent hypothesis In epidemiology that example would be a reservoir with vectors and fomites Vectors are individual infectious agents like a mosquito flea or human Fomites are inanimate hosts for virus like doorknobs bedding handrails etc whats worrying is that it looks like Costco and other grocers were overwhelmed in infected parts of the PNW most likely aggravating the spread|0 Im sorry|0 It makes social distancing take no effort|0 Ive had a hard time finding anything on this do people who test positive eventually show symptoms or are some people asymptomatic throughout the whole thing|1 Meh Hes 36 and has been in the business of profiteering since 2015 He was bound to cross the line sooner or later Now that he did let him pay the price for it I wouldnt advocate for him to go to prison but there are other types of punishment This kind of lousy price gouging needs to be deterred Oh great now Im wondering if the word lousy has to do with lice And like that Im down another rabbit hole|0 Got a good consistent job that gets health insurance Thats esther say than done|1 Doesnt matter The most accessible news is distorted|0 Most sex workers do not have the luxury of choiceFirst of all Source There are countless shitty jobs that women do be a house maid be a janitorcleaner be a cashier Or be a sex workerWhere is this proof that mostof these women have no other option If they have to choose between cashier vs janitor vs maid vs sex work and if they really hate sex work then why would so many choose sex workSecond of all why are you ignoring sex work that isnt Street walking Look at all those Instagram models that male feminists drool over Where do you think they get the money to jet set around the globe wear expensive clothes What about call girls Porn actresses Yes I do blame men for choosing to pay to sexually assault women So to you every single John is a rapistsexual criminalSo heres my response there are male prostitutes dancers who service female clients Why are you not accusing those women of being rapists you make it clear that you dont believe women have agency when it comes to their body Why do you believe theyre passive vegetables Do you not accept that theyre humans fully capable of autonomous choices over their bodies Why do you accept the sexist belief that a woman who commercializes her body is doing so without her desire to do soHeres the fact women have sexuality Women can earn money with their sexuality Mind blowing eh I will not continue this discussion if you continue to either intentionally or mistakenly through your own stupidity misconstrue and misrepresent my argumentOh you poor thing Now that Ive finally called out on your anti sexual freedom pro shaming behavior your little fragile ego is hurt Your pride cant stand valid counter argumentsLook this is not the first time that you supremacists have waved the white flag when countered with reason and logic And its not the last Thank you for confirming that you have no counter argument misandrist PS when you go to bed make sure you tuck in the social conservatives nicely They like to be warm when they share their beds|0 Nah I got your stats well done americas not top of the list for intentional homicides in comparison to amount of fire arms per 100k Sounds fab youve changed me I now support guns in every household s Just because your numbers not the highest doesnt mean intentional gun homicides isnt a problem Doesnt mean school shootings isnt a problem or accidental shootings from children isnt a problem clear sign tighter restrictions and laws are needed but dont worry chill there are worse countries init|1 I was sick recently in the UK with a case of suspected measles after coming home from an area with an outbreak in the US having traveled in airports where known measles carriers had traveled over the holidays Im not worried about the coronavirus here tbh But judging from their meh response to a potential measles case and NHS advice to go sit in a crowded walkin waiting room if there were to be an outbreak here I am definitely am not confident in their ability to contain it All they said to me was huh yeah looks exactly like measles but its a virus so go home no we wont bother testing you its fine|1 Theres a whole fucking medical specialty thats all about operating a respirator properly A tube goes in the trachea and another in the stomach This isnt the kind of shit that can be done outside the hospital by an untrained asshole without causing more hard than good|0 Are you sure this is not fake|1 They arent hiding community transmission they just arent testing for it at this time 5head|1 My company still producing hand sanitizer shower gel body wash foaming soap and hand gel Honestly though I almost wanna just stay home but cant Trying to stay together for my kids and fiance but this is fuckin scary as hell|0 Hey Germany this is not the citizens doing We sure as hell didnt vote on it Please dont be mad at us Lol|1 Cant tell if youre serious but its not a bad explanation|1 Thats why im saying can you notify your local press if they are not gonna report it then who will it looks like you are trying here but what Redditor would care enough to do something with the info you are putting here if i go to your local news outlet with this info they will ask me my credibility and tell me no one is willing to come on record same thing happened with kirkland toyota in seattle the boss there refused to tell employees and customers they were exposed to coronavirus a employee posted on reddit about it kirkland toyota closed down for cleaning and announced the virus exposure people and government applaud their action what about the fact they put thousands at risk for greed i contacted news outlet and laid out all the facts for them but no coverage no one in media wants to look like a nutcase for looking into conspiracies and looks like citizens are blaming media for not investigated their concerns|0 Would ya take that chance if youre a parent Not sayin you arent maybe you are|1 How the fuck does that even matter at the moment How does blaming someone else solve OUR current crisis Ever heard the phrase no use crying of spilled milk The damage is done regardless of where it came from Time to pick up the pieces|0 National Parks Ill give you but social security is an insolvent dumpster fire let me invest my own money the damn system isnt going to be there by the time I retire and so many people participate in Medicare because they have no other choice Government interfering in the healthcare market means that health insurance providers do not need to have any competitive options for lower endbudget plans|0 Bear in mind that this is also a reflection of increased testing and screening 9and case detection By all accounts this thing has been circulating in the area since October before it hit that market and went viral|1 Nah they tweaked it a bit for him Do you know where the entrance is located|0 I attended a small comic convention two weeks ago in Columbus I dont feel ill however I think I may have mild pneumonia unrelated to the event|1 Doctors hate his one simple trick|0 The last graph page 10 Looks like hq doing most of the work Azt cleans up the rest|1 thats interestingthat research seems to suggest that this may have come directly from these animals They look like armadillos with scales it seems bizarre that someone would eat one lol|1 This is something that actually worries me With China as Patient Zero theyll be sick first and get better the fastest What happens after they recover and the US and Europe are sick and China decides its time to make a power play since they are better|0 When theres already a backlog often of 23 months suddenly having millions for unemployment is sure to demand more resourcesI personally know about a hundred people applying today alone|0 I have been a preppier since i lived the 1986 SF quake I live in OK now and last year my preps saved my ass in the floodtornado Yep i am good to go I eat my preps nothing goes to waste ever I dont horde i rotate and always have food and supplies in hand cuz you never know I have never had to panic buyI have cancelled my hair and nail appts for the last month and i dont go out unless i have too Not interested in the flu or corona virus or anything else thank you|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices2 uGillysDaddy at 8403 nices3 udylantherabbit2016 at 7296 nices13974 uGedefar at 3 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 I agree that patients should always give consent but they way the rules are written the state labs and other labs were prohibited from doing the testing irrespective of having patient consent|1 Prolly illegal|0 Doctors wear them to protect their patients more than anything its to stop spread of disease|1 Very easy to believe I genuinely believe the virus has been in our state but we have thus far only tested 47 people In the entire state Multiple people have gone in for COVIDlike symptoms and told they dont meet criteria which generally means they have traveled out of country Which is incredibly outdated at this point|1 Thanks|1 At this rate Ill hopefully find out whether or not I have Corona by the time I die of old age Im 25|0 No and only a moron would assume so|0 Life in prison where someone will give him a different type of infection|0 To put this into perspective the South Korean superspreader infected 40 of her church cult members on February 23 Within one week cases exploded to 1000 and right now SK at over 7500 confirmed cases Sourcehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus Dont worry USA wont get numbers that high thoughbecause they arent testing|0 I wish I could upvote this so much that it glows and flashes|1 This is a slogan for the Hong Kong antiextradition protests|0 What I am referencing is the Gallup report on Global law and Order report found herehttpswwwgallupcomanalytics267869gallupgloballaworderreport2019aspx where Singapore is the country where confidence is highest in walking around during the night I was attributing this statistic to the laws passed regarding antidrugsYou can always hang people but if you are unable to enforce it then it does not really matter Drugs do enter Singapore but drug use is lowered to less than 0002 of the total population or lower Crime syndicates income sources are targeted and it is really unprofitable to run on here to the point where organised crime is far and few between The point I am trying to drive across is that the policy must be effective or else it would be pointless|0 I share your concern I work for a tech company Much of our raw material and all our assembly is done in China and Taiwan No problems so farm n the short term but the longer it goes on the more the potential impact grows Years ago when the big earthquake affected Kobe Japan 1995 and I was working for another tech company our LED screen manufacturing plant was damaged severely that we had no capabilities for manufacturing or repair for months Eventually things got back to normalYou are not alone in this Stay focused and optimistic|0 Have you spent a millisecond interacting with any aspect of the US economic system or have any vague clue of how any level of governments procurement systems may function|0 Its not a waste SPEAK In the midst of this firehose of lies promulgated by our leaders citizens desperately need experts to tell the truth about what we face Even if their bully pulpit is bigger than yours theres still some of us listening closely|0 Considering the plan is coming from a bunch of people well past their youth they probably wouldnt consider that a flawDying on the other hand is inconvenient enough to them to be considered a flaw|1 I approve of this comment lol|1 Oh my god finally someone else with a sane response Wish I could upvote you 100 times|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Fuck Trump|0 Ohio Health Department estimated they have 100000 suspected COVID19 in Ohio alone Ohio Health must have data on patients tested negative for flu and people with COVID19 symptoms cannot get the test They must have extrapolated the figure from how widespread and timespan That is about 1 of Ohios population If you extrapolate 05 for US thats over 1 million infected Given how widespread the confirmed cases in the country and just from accounts on Reddit of person tested negative for flu back in December we are at least over million COVID19 cases|0 No offense but thats not an excuse Just tell people there is a shortage of masks and they are needed for frontline workers|0 Huh That couldnt possibly be bad right s|1 Thats fine but thats what we call laying people off|1 Im planning to shelter in I live in a suburban neighborhood in southern Brooklyn that was never really gentrified because it was always a bit more out of the way But my plan and one of my neighbors who gives a damn about this is to prep a bunch of supplies and if it get bad well basically board up our houses and just stay put for a few weeks|0 Peoples identity is wrapped up into their denial if reality so when you wear a mask you threaten their sense of self In turn they get defensive Sorry that most people are such fragile egos|0 Was worth a shot lol|1 I am actually helping to curb the spread I am staying at home|1 thanks for this saved|1 It seems that the FCC convinced all the big internet providers to sign a pledge to do thishttpswwwwashingtonpostcomtechnology20200313attcomcastotherinternetprovidersagreenotcancelorpenalizeinternetsubscriberswhocantpaytheirbillshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomtechnology20200313attcomcastotherinternetprovidersagreenotcancelorpenalizeinternetsubscriberswhocantpaytheirbills|1 I live in a small town in Kansas a good 70 miles from the closest known cases I havent been out of the immediate area in over a month I dont go out anymore eitherIve had suspicious mild flulike symptoms for 4 days now I dont know if Ive caught it but if I have its already widespread If thats the case its going to get very very bad|0 Theyve literally said that in the coming weeks over 70s and at risk people will need to self isolate in order to protect themselvesAhso it is every person for themselves The government abdicates responsibility for their welfare|0 Reuters The highly contagious novel coronavirus that has exploded into a global pandemic can remain viable and infectious in droplets in the air for hours and on surfaces up to days according to a new study that should offer guidance to help people avoid contracting the respiratory illness called COVID19In the air for hours Were still fucked|0 If this shit breaks out the Olympics are going to be the least of anyones concerns|0 In America the right uses it and communism as a slur for anything left of laissezfaire capitalism So for Americans we have to relabel basic social policies socialism to convince the uneducated voters who buy into that slur that socialism isnt a bad word its economic policy aimed at helping them|1 well yes but actually no|0 He made possessing syringes illegal and ordered police to confiscate them|0 The video was very informative on things other than COVID19 as well He was not called for coronavirus but was jokingly asked about his opinion since hes a scientist too|1 I quit smoking with the help of a cold Smoking didnt feel good and I didnt smoke for 1 week realized well I might as well stop Used to be a 10 years of around half a pack each day smoker started at 15 smoke free for 9 years You can do it|1 I called my parents a couple weeks ago and just said Look Youre going to think I am crazy Im good with that if it saves someones life You need a months worth of food Now What events are you going to Cancel them No mom I dont give a fuck how excited you were to go to this wine festival Youre not going now Got itCalled me two days later to tell me they had cleared their schedule stocked their pantry and bought a bunch of puzzles on amazonMy crawlspace is now full of foodAnd toilet paper fuck off and I am starting to feel like a prepper I am not sleeping and I keep doing mathematical probabilities in my head I feel like I am only thinly hanging on And I am being told I have a year of this nowGuys I am not going to make it I need a break Jesus Stepped away for an hour and got like a hundred beautiful responses Thank you I am stepping away from media until Monday|1 Take care of yourself too Appreciate it |1 Yup They recovered 100 All recoveries here Theyre all absoltuley healthy and fine Nothing to worry abouthttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3065091coronavirusrecoveredpatientdieschinareports139newcases|1 Dirty Tleilaxu |0 She and her colleagues at a lab in Seattle began testing for COVID19 without permission from the CDC In fact they had asked for permission to do some testing but the CDC said they were not allowed to do that because reasons They did the tests anyway found them to be positive for COVID19 and were then able to get the word out that the disease was present in WashingtonJust following what Daniel Webster said the Federal Government maybe over the state government but they answer to the people above all else|1 my wife and I are lucky to work from home and can make the easy choice to self quarantine Most of my fellow citizens do not have this luxury and they will continue going to work|1 This is true My shit is reserved for the governments and media who leave their people uninformed Managing panic is a worthy goal but it should not be achieved through ignoranceThat being said there are people who are informed and nevertheless decide to pull off stunts like this They deserve my shit twice over|0 3x more contagious than the common flu|0 you mean anyone who doesnt partake in the corrupt communist coverup which puts the whole world at further risk|0 Republic of ChinahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTaiwan is Best China|1 Wheres that number coming from|1 Ive read that Italians didnt think the coronavirus would be dangerous and that the pplgovt took little precaution until the illnesses became fatal I am glad Italy is being so honestprobably with their case numbers Even more impressed at how compliant the citizens are Im a little worried that many of my fellow americans will get rowdy if there was ever a quarantine Many dont believe that corona is dangerous and probably wont change their mind until theyve caused irreversible damage|0 I dont You guys are fearing for what purpose This is not a major pandemic and people just need to be smart I agree with Belgium|1 Something wicked this way cums|0 Thank you I needed to read this today|1 Ageism is the only form of discrimination that is still accepted and some people think its funny The irony is some of these people will live long enough to be that age|1 Im scared too and 3000 miles from my mom Sending you a virtual hug|1 Trump is a fucking idiot Thats the only way i can put it I rely hope he get it and brings him it with in a inch of his life|0 I have been traveling through South East Asia for six weeks and have been in lots of airports planes ferries buses etc I wont comment on the science only on what I have observed which is that masks give people a false sense of security and therefore neglect the other preventative measuresFor example I constantly observe the following behaviour from people wearing masks use the washroom and not wash their hands at alluse the washroom and wash their hands with water only move their mask to below their chin while eatingwearing two or three maskswearing the mask below their nose putting the mask down on tabletops to eat Including open air markets and airport trays constantly touching and adjusting their masks taking off masks in bathrooms to rinse their face and placing the mask on the bathroom counter using toothpicks underneath the maskThis is what I have observed|0 Its how the system is set up In my country the retirement age was moved up to 65 At the time it was moved up to 65 average life expectency of men was 625 it was 675 for women We would literally on average be dead for over 2 years before starting the pension|0 WHO thinks Vietnams numbers are legit The government here jumped on this right away back in January If there was a real wave of cases it would be known info would spread through social media which isnt very restricted here Of course there may be problems we dont know about cases that havent been caught But so far its hard to fault the governments actions|0 Because thats how real world production and supply chains work sure|1 The outbreak is very comparable to the Spanish Flu but not seasonal flu|1 goed goed Beetje saai en soms ruzie in de familial maar jha we zijn niet gewend niet ff naar buiten te kunnen beetje VR and films kijken op de beamer en jezelf vol freeten En het internet bekijken is alles wat we doen|1 Technically a virus outside a host has no metabolism It is under attack by numerous factors All these attacks speed up with heat and slow down with cold The specifics are different for each virus So yes it will last longer under cold conditions Wash your hands before and after handling food dont eat raw stuff unpeeled and dont touch your face with unwashed hands|0 I dont have the sauce for my bread anymore but the chance of having false negatives is way higher than a false positive Like that one famous guy said though The chances arent ever 0 they are just really lowThink of the virus and the test like food coloring Only if there is food coloring will the water change color If theres no food coloring theres no water color change and although its nearly impossible for the water to change color on its own without water the odds are not 0 It is much easier to get a false negative on the other hand as if theres not enough food coloring the water wont change color|1 How long does it take for symptoms once they are present to go from mild to severe Does it come on quickly all of a sudden|0 Well if they are positive they should deal only with confirmed cases They might get different strains at worst|0 Ugh best answer now would be not sure I recall watching a video on this but it was a few weeks ago and I probably cant find it I can understand mandarin quite well so I do recall something of this sort Once again all will be clearer in due time|1 No communism is to distribute means of production This is more like distribution of rations during war time|0 The public should be encouraged to cover their faces in public by any means even if they dont have a mask Scarves bandanas tshirts towels etc Anything to reduce the droplets in the air|1 i wonder what are your takes on countries like Italy SK and America|1 I cant argueeducate stupid blocked|1 I purchased just as news started breaking in the New Years I went to Home Depot and purchased 450 n95 mask 12 respirator mask with extra filters We just stocked up on food etcWe live in a small community outside the main town All the mask are for my family and neighbors if needed I thought I would do a little due diligence for everyoneOne Nieghbor did see all the mask and called me crazy he wont be receiving any if things start to really fall apart|0 This gets repeated and its just not true What is true is Trump offered a budget that took money from the CDC Congress run by Democrats then passed a budget that was nothing like the one Trump offered Remember how they refused to give him any money for the wall If it makes you feel better blame Trump but the truth is that the CDC has the largest budget it has ever had|0 Get ready for US numbers to spike once we actually start testing a significant number of people|1 What does strong encouragement look like Genuinely asking for your opinion not arguing|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Id much rather have idiots call me names over the internet than be arrested by my government for speaking The idiots calling me names have the free speech to do so as well|1 we the redditors have a common strategic sense we try to ensure we dont upset our great reliable quick action taking friends in CCP while upvoting downvoting to ensure peace and stability sThere are no sides here this is a virusPeople who blame china for trying to initially hide the virus and hide deathinfected count are right but i am curious if other nations would have taken a better approach if this was happening elsewherei live in turkey our government would still be denying the viruss existence and say this is an evil plan by western nations to embargo usAmericans would prob walk over eachother rushing to supermarkets causing initially higher death counts due to stampedes there would be serious panicDont want to talk about middle east or far worse indianone of this is the point imo this sub should continue staying less political and more focused on facts like its trying to do now People claiming china pre crematizes alive disabled ppl blaming virus and selling herbal recipes should be straight banned i guess they are getting banned i dont see them anymore|0 Thank you so much I thought the same Even if i did test positive it is up to my immune system to take care of it I just have the worst anxiety and sometimes feel like I bring things upon myself by thinking about them so much Thank you so very much for your kindness and good thoughts|1 Central Alabama went to Walmart tonight around midnight to avoid people We have hand sanitizer stations up front and the cart wipes were stocked Hand sanitizer alcohol peroxide sanitizing wipes and the gallon sized jugs of bleach were out of stock Tylenol ibuprofen and Aleve were very low stock They had plenty of toilet paper and the smaller jugs of bleach were in stock All food was stocked Spam tuna and dried beans were lower than I had ever seen them but still more than 50 of the shelf space for them was full Bottled water was abundant We have no confirmed cases and my local Facebook friends are pretty stereotypical for what you hear of those in the area they are of the its just the flu bro variety and no one is worried or taking it seriously|0 There is always pressure to mutate to less virulent forms If something makes you really sick you naturally go out less into the world and thus infect fewer other people than if its a milder disease|0 The employee wasnt technically fired He offered to resign in the heat of the moment and was told to think about it until Monday and then make a decision which he agreed was the right move They called him at home a few hours later and said they accepted his resignation effective immediately even though it was no longer offeredHonestly not much of a difference In the end it was not willful|1 Far fetched Nope It wasnt far fetched 2 weeks ago when Milan cases started appearing It wasnt far fetched 6 weeks ago when Wuhan was well into their quarantine It was never far fetched from the moment we understood what this virus was and how it was spreading Thats the fucking disgusting thing This could have been mitigated so much better Literally fuck all has been done in the critical window History will look back on this as an example of how not to react to microbial threats|0 On Thursday the CDC confirmed they had processed 8 tests in the previous 24 hour period That is eight 8 Kind of get the feeling someone prefers that we dont raise the numbers However the smart people arent fooled by the current administrations ineptitude|1 that Italians are going to give back in the years to come that money was not free this is a different thing than the help china is giving|1 Oh we were happy to send him to DC and away from IN|1 Ive been wondering what Starbucks was going to do They should also stop making medicine balls so people dont go there while theyre sick|0 Critical sounds bad|0 did you have a bad day or sth interesting how a complete stranger on the net saying that you interpret things differently can get you so worked up i stand my point well have to agree to disagree|1 Lol Man youre sooo going to have a story to guilt trip your little boy or girl with later on Wish you all of the luck|1 I agree there are more important issues My catch is that the IOC and every sport body has a lot to consider if its cancelled by a year For example 1 do you take the same team that qualified Because there might be some newer and better athletes who just hit their peak a year later 2 what if your athlete who qualified got injured Or worse yet they got a bad case of corona virus and their lungs are damaged Do you run a Olympic trial for that event only Or take the person who got second the year before What if second place retired from the sport after trialsPersonally my solution would be to take the teams that are currently selected for next year Only hold extra trials if its an event that affects a relay or team sport and the original qualifier is out due to illness or injury Then continue with plans to keep things on track for a 2024 games|0 Media outlets are generally concerned with making money You shouldnt be surprised by this at all The larger the disaster the more money they will make in the long run Yay capitalismBut you should be concerned about the response of your government especially your elected officials Oh wait You elected that guy who promised to run the country like a business didnt you Yeah well this is what that looks like Try harder next time|1 China has been catching reimported cases for weeks now and they havent caused any new outbreaks If you can be vigilante enough then you can keep the virus out once the situation domestically clears up|1 Youre claiming hes doing nothing about the virus That is patently false and Im fucking tired of people politicizing this|0 Im the opposite Lets hope our respective countries get it together for each others sakes|1 That was my first question as well|1 Nah the normal blue ones are for sick people the N95s are not really to keep the sickness from other people they are used to keep harmful chemicals out of you but no filter is 100 safe|0 Im looking for a total collapse now that our Government and CDC have done nothing in the 6 weeks they have had to get ready|0 My work place is already feeling some effects Travel issues client budget reallocation ceo is bracing for shit to go down so now spending is going to stop|0 Also I think its okay to talk to your employer about you health issues and hope for their understanding in this unusual situation|1 How many more diseases does the world need to suffer because of the CCP trying to cover up their problems and silence rumorsWhat a terrible way for one of the most historically and culturally rich civilizations of the world to be Chinas government really has become the screeching baby of the world I wonder when the Chinese people are going to finally get sick of it|0 ohhhh as a civilian i am terrified as a social sciences student i am curious we will see how quickly it develops|0 Yeah they fucked us all|0 Im not American nor do I own a gun You normal people are the problem You are letting your government screw you left and right and you guys are calling America a free country You Americans wouldnt even know what true freedom because according to Americans America is the only free country in the world What a joke|1 Absolutely The number of deaths is way too high relative to the number of confirmed cases Theres clearly lack of testing Additionally there arent many cases that are considered serious This suggests people arent seeking treatment Thats a healthcare system issue|1 No one is infected with NK Theyre all dead already|0 At best all NEW buses are electric and even that seems extremely unlikely|1 Thank you for your service Science looks to be the unsung hero of this one|1 Just for context Important to realize by CURB65 pneumonia severity scoring he never went above a 1 which recommends outpatient therapy httpstwittercomameshaastatus1223418230930395146s21|1 So true|1 To clarify the new coronary pneumonia refers to total cases of pneumonia caused by the new corona virus to date right A little confused by the wording thereStill 50k cases of pneumonia in 3 months is damn scary considering most of it is concentrated in one city|0 Well done Romanian friends Love from Italy|1 Typical experience Ive had with them as both a guest and hostThey have some of the worst customer service Ive ever experienced They refuse to issue any sort of refund or service for blatant rule violations by either partyIm extremely forgiving and relaxed when it comes to critiquing any service industry but I refuse to use Airbnb anymore after multiple nightmare experiences|0 Italy and Iran rank 154 and 111 in the world for TB source httpswwwworldlifeexpectancycomitalytuberculosishttpswwwworldlifeexpectancycomitalytuberculosis so countries with generally low incidence of TB There are outbreaks though from time to time and interestingly in the Lombardy region of Italy which has been worst Covidhit but a majority of the cases were nonItalian nationals ie from migrant populations from high incidence countries source httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3647646httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3647646 TB and latent TB may have a role but based on the above cherrypicked evidence seems like there is likely to be other complicators far more important|1 Swine flu is also endemic in humans now So it will get to kill millions eventually H1n1 is the main strain this year|0 I think they are talking about usage and not bandwidth though I could be wrong I know many parts of the world still use metered internet|0 She should be charged with bioterrorism or something|0 When billionaires rob the treasury we have no treasure for the public goodThis is a direct fall out of that|0 Weve basically no ICU beds in my area and it is a big one All our traffic would be redirected to ManchesterExplain me how it is different from 10 villages sending their critically ill patients to Milan Lodi and Bergamo hospitalsThis will be baptism of fire for the cuts done in the NHS up north|0 I do Im buying puts as this disaster unfolds The more inept the more I make|0 countrywide borders would have to be closed for it to be in anyway effective which we aall know is about 0001 You could easily get around 1 province closing borders ie i had a flight to washington from montreal return in 2 weeks until about an hour ago when the event was cancelled because of new gathering laws|1 His campaign is more important than what happens to citizens|1 My state only has a few confirmed cases and people are definitely not taking it seriously|1 Bill Gates could really help limit spread in the US by convincing Microsoft to temporarily make Xbox game pass free Unless its raining the parks will all be full of kids playing ball but I bet many would happily stay home and play video games|1 Oh God that sounds bad really bad Stay safe use protection the virus is really infectious|0 You should also include that the reason CDC and FDA did not allow the lab to test was because they would be testing without the permission of the patients which would be violating privacy laws|0 There has been an outbreak of bad jokes lately but its contained to only some parts of the Internet|0 Who said it was Lol|1 Damn not bad Impressive gains|0 Anyone know if hypochlorous acid is effective at all|1 I mean Bill maher made a joke about how long until bernie sanders gets it Hes always in huge crowds hugging and shaking hands|1 I doubt individuals selfreporting they think they have the virus would ever constitute accurate scientific data|0 Is there anything we can do to help out the medical community in America I did a fundraiser and raised 15k for supplies in China but I contacted local hospitals near me asking if they would take moneysupplies I donated and they said no Anything else I can help do|1 Source pleaseUnfortunately not so much The thing about the R0 of the flu was from a Reddit comment Of course if you look at the chart of flu cases during flu season and after its very obvious that the R0 is very different in winter and in summer and that its obviously not just 13 in winter I spent a significant time trying to find confirmation but couldnt come up with anythingAs for the secondary attack rate I heard that in a podcast Upon looking it up I got this result H1N1 appears to be more contagious than seasonal influenza The secondary attack rate of seasonal influenza ranges from 5 to 15 Current estimates of the secondary attack rate of H1N1 range from 22 to 33httpswwwwhointcsrdiseaseswinefluassessdiseaseswinefluassess20090511enAs for Covid10 you get anything from 2 to 15 I heard a German epidemiologist say that if he had to pull a number out of his ass well he didnt actually put it that way itd be 1015 based on the various datahttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320028423v1httpswwwaappublicationsorgnews20200305coronavirus030520|0 Well done|1 Damn|0 One of the biggest takeaways for me from this whole saga is that we need to do a much better job at rapidly ramping up testing resources and logistical planning for handling a pandemicWe need technology and manufacturing resources prepped to start spitting out test kits or have ample supply on hand depending on the exact resource The scientific community seems to have been ready to go But we werent prepared to mass produce test kits nor did we have plenty of masks available or if we did they werent transported to where they need to go efficiently enough Also we need concrete and consistent plans and procedures for implementing quarantine areasWe in the West got a warning with SARS but we ignored it COVID19 should be a sobering alert and wakeup call that we need to get our shit together with regards to pandemics Because given population increases water shortages and general contention this will not be the last time we face a similar crisis in the next 100 yearsEdit autocorrect and poor proofreading fixes|0 Because thats what heroes do|1 My mom is 70 and my dad is 75 and I have to admit I keep telling them I am worried about them and my family At first my mom told me it was nothing to worry about at all and that the media was fear mongering I was over obsessing about this whole corona thing and today I was having such a bad panic attack one so bad that I was throwing up because of the fear over the whole thingMy mom told me to knock my shit off calm down and stop panicking I actually think that was the best thing for me because I tend to over worry and get panic attacks over this I was mad at her at first for not seeming to take this serious but realized she was trying to toughen me up a little Old folks have seen many fucked up things over their lifetime and dont seem to panic as much as the younger generations I have a feeling my parents are just as afraid as I am but their generation keeps much more of a stiff upper lip than we do sometimes|0 Gov Cuomo should ignore the CDC and move on with testing before NY breaks down into the next WuhanEdit Thank for that kind person who gave me gold |1 Looks like she has some pretty sloppy hand writing|1 Just so its visible I fired up foldinghome and it looks like theyre no longer serving everyone COVID19related workunits perhaps they ran out at this point Might be worth doublechecking what theyre issuing youAlso trying to confirm that rosettahome is still issuing covid19 related work since the workunits names arent clear and I cant recognize the proteins by appearance|0 I wouldnt be surprised if it is 5k|0 Im going to try and quell panic here a bit and say that this paper is a review article and has no primary literature They are citing that there have been studies on similar viruses that implicate neuroinvasion There is still no actual research showing this for CoV2019 or actual clinical evidence for this in patients that I can see The mention a small amount of patients who have neurological problems but when you read the paper they are just talking about headaches and nauseavomiting when they say this They also are citing anecdotal evidence of a patient who stated they felt like they had to manually breath but its really hard to get any meaningful information after people go through stressful periods like thatSo not trying to minimize any potential for this to be a concern but trying to add some input opposed to the panic mongering Viruses going into the CNS is nothing new chicken pox does it herpes does it maybe a bit more common than you think|0 Yes there is a number to call and then they come to test you at home Im keeping a close eye on my temperature and general conditions and Im very well ready to call if I get worse|1 I hate China for their imperialistic manners and also hate communism communists destroyed life of my grand parents i just think that new virus can mutate anywhere in the world and we know that from history|0 Partly agree with you but it is really hard to antipoverty|0 Whelp Time to resort to daaaamn nature you scary now|0 Ah you caught me yes I hate enemies of the people|0 WGU entirely online college grad hereThey have show them under your desk area as well as sit up against your desk They have you move the camera a lot They require you to pass a preexam which is easy to cheat on if you really wanted in order to be ready They offer everything on a passfail basis competency is what they call it and give you a 30 GPA regardless of how strongly or weakly you pass classes In short the risk in cheating is high expulsion and the reward passing a test you probably could pass just on Googling answers to the preexam is low|0 Are those sources any better than this one Seriously there are typos galore and really basic info is incorrect I have no idea if chloroquine works or not it would be awesome if it did but until theres more reliable data be realistic and critical of people presenting stuff as a cure|0 I have enough heart to go around but you arent wrong|1 No comment |0 Maybe it was similar people were worried taking about it all the time A roommate got it and a social services worker this was in Venezuela went to the house and bring her Tamiflu We were quarantined for 2 weeks I believe Im more worried now though not sure if its the age or internet |0 As it should be If youre knowingly putting people at risk you deserve to have the book thrown at you when you inevitably hurt or kill someone|0 We wont be able to move her like that while shes recovering She has surgery tomorrow and will only need to be there a week But shell have to spend some time in a rehab center We cant provide those things for her from home|1 Normally I use cannabis every day but Ive stopped the past few weeks in order to maximize my lungs and immune system not something casual users need to worry about so much Now Im catching up on REMs and a beer knocks me out for 10 hours|0 Shes definitely not poor Shes a Seattle tech scene worker|1 Indeed I think the rumors of reinfection are probably true|1 Thats not racist Knowing them as an individual and still conforming to the stereotype would be racist This is a pernicious and pervasive misunderstanding of what racism actually is Having stereotypes is helpful and is a cognitive shortcut the only thing that is harmful is clinging to those stereotypes once you know an individual does not conform to said stereotype|0 If your internet isnt metered it is worth trying at least Aside from the initial download I think all of the tasks and reported solutions are quite small and the internet is used rarely You can also set very strict limits on how much BOINC is allowed to useIf things arent as you like you can always stop and uninstall|0 Yeah they just need to hop on a plane towait|1 Nice 10 died to SARS SARS deaths are lies|0 jesus Hadnt even thought of that I like him but I cant imagine his hygiene is amazing He doesnt like comb his hair or anything|1 Youre lucky Built in barrier against alcoholism|1 Dont forget the 1000 rolls of TP you are going to need|1 Hes not waiting for anything Hes hoping it just goes away so his precious stock market goes back up In reality were probably heading towards a huge recession The US is the only country where our deaths outnumber our recovered Anyone in metro areas probably already have it People on flights are spreading it|1 Not sure if its been said before in this post but FUCK JEFF BEZOS|0 I am impressed by todays press conference Hopefully they continue with this aggressive approach|1 Hes calling but trump picked up the phone and said do it yourself lol|1 The majority of that is pretty far from the border And they need to stay there|1 Drop Delivery is already a thing and it will surely attract more attention from businesses Pizza Hut Japan now features this as a new checkbox in their system in response to COVID19 The delivery man will not hand the pizza directly but place the pizza in a plastic bag at a reasonable spot in front of your door knockring and yell that the pizza is readyMight be there to stay Sometimes I immerse too far in anime coding to greet a human being|1 I think walks outside away from other people will really help moralefresh air definitely isnt a bad idea either|1 It takes longer to recover than to die and to be considered recovered you need multiple negative tests and literally every article points to 1 to 3 percent fatality rate A few days ago the ratio was 12 dead and 88 recovered|0 theyre probably talking about the guy who got charged 3270 for corona testing in floridahttpswwwmiamiheraldcomnewshealthcarearticle240476806htmlafter insurance he had to pay 1400I should have stayed in S Korea and waiting for this shit to blow over they dont make people pay for testing In fact they fucking have drive through testing They just take your sample through your car window and then send you home to self quarantine for 2 weeks if you have symptoms and have designated testing areas and hospitals that you can report to so that you dont contaminate other hospital areasI did a full check up when I visited for 2 weeks on february And I mean a FULL check upI had a chest XRay abdominal CT Ultrasound blood work 2 endoscopies for large smaller intestines in the process removed a polyp from my large intestine other tests like eye sight hearing bmi etcwhole thing cost me 152 if I didnt have insurance it would have only cost 300imagine paying for that in the united statesI mean fuck The government pays 95 of your medical bills when youve got a serious disease and theres no bullshit with deductibles just a flat percentage and they actually negotiate with the hospitals for prices so its not over inflated1 round of chemotherapy including meds hospital rest for a day etc in s Korea costs 2000 with insurance it costs 100 per round Its only 2400 for a whole year of chemo therapyIts a fucked up world when youre scared more about the costs of a life threatening disease than the disease itself when youre in America|0 I prefer to just scrub the shit out of my hands honestly Im luck enough to not be a female so I have zero nails to speak of Also GoJo is great and I go up slightly past my wrists Then if I need to wash them repeatedly maybe cooking with meat or eggs I get the water scorching hot to the point its unbearable to anyone in my family and wash quickly then use a paper towel and continueNobodys perfect but I think we can be better especially when I see guys take a leak then walk right out like their penis is a bar of soap|1 The pole self incinerates after 30 seconds from paper attachment|1 Permanent lung scarring is going to make an outcome worse|0 Expressing hyperbole for comedic effect|1 Futures bounced back to about 3 when I looked a bit ago They were definitely down in the 4 to 45 range earlier|1 She went to a cult prayer meeting with a fuck ton of people packed together The reason the patients were hard to trace was because of the characteristics of that particular cult They sneak into orthodox churches and try to get people to join their cult so a lot of catholics and christians got infected And also the cult was pretty famous even before the virus so its members have a habit of hiding their participation Fuck patient 31 She killed tens of civilians and medical workers that could have had nothing to do with the virus|0 I watched the live and it was really inspirational Macron did a wonderful job|1 chinese health worker already said that several weeks ago but no one give a F|0 Motherfucker Trump fired the whole team that Obama made to deal with this shit|0 I got confused at first thinking this is about people who saw the show Doctor Who|0 I mean this Travel is a luxury yes but no one should be forced into a position where their only hopes of achieving something are to brave a godforsaken plagueCapitalist system continues to exert downward force on wages and workers and eventually you get people doing this shit|0 Hope you enjoy it Its helped me to change the way I respond to things in life|1 Im trying to say that communism has destroyed the ancient underpinnings of Chinese society I just think human beings need something else besides a materialist worldview to function If you arent interested in religion maybe read ancient Greek philosophy The whole intellectual effort of the ancient philosophers was to try and answer the question What is the truth Why couldnt this outbreak have been approached in a truthful manner from its inception People on this thread were pondering why the Chinese now find themselves in this mess and I thought the answer might be philosophical Too bad we all cant meet in person and have a discussion about this Many of us would decline anyway because we are too nervous to congregate in crowds for fear of catching this virus All the best to you and everyone on here|0 514 male and 486 femaleThis makes me think smoking doesnt result in less chance of infection Otherwise there would be a big difference here since theres a big difference in male and female smoking rates|1 You are correctN95 or higher will help|1 People in Asia were already scared because of SARS they didnt need any cajoling from government Was the other way around they were seething at government and pushing them to act quickly when there was only single digit cases in those countriesBoris should start by equipping the cabinet with masks This will of course never happen Look at Asia and you will see Carrie Lam Moon and others wearing masks Singapore was a slightly different case|0 I agree 100a coworker told me he was going to fly several places because airfare was so low|0 The buck stops at Trump He owns this disaster|0 Welp he nails why so many got infected|0 Well we will still have to keep supplies moving It wont be as dangerous when people are restricted for a few weeks so the thing can burn itself out|1 Quit your job or if you need the money quit logic If you cant beat them join them And how do you beat stupidityMy boss had similar attitude at first now hes saying things are serious|0 BBC Breaking News is reporting that the health secretary has confirmed isolation the vulnerable edit actually the over70s for an extended periodhttpswwwbbccouknewsampuk51895873twitterimpressiontrue|0 If it hits the USA I wonder if the NBA would have to pause this season or just have a 1v1 match of the number one seed in the East vs west in 1 match to find out the championOr they can just pause the season and resume in the futureAlso I guess WWE Wrestlemania would be canceled|1 Unfortunately those two weeks you mention are more than enough for some politicians Everything to postpone bad news and then blame it on othersBut if you listen to how people living in northern Italy especially Lombardy are hit by this The world has declared them a pariah businesses shut down schools and universities closed The health system overstretched Thats a hell of a price to pay and it only makes sense that those people start asking if all this is really necessary|0 Im in a tier 2 city I normally love it a lot more than than tier 1 because its more wild and there are a lot less ruleslawsexpectations and I can do whatever I want at all times but I have to say Im so bored at home right now because everything remotely cool is closed right now or everyone is still at their villagesI wake up shit talk on Reddit for an hour have a coffee and do some coding cook something watch TV code a bit more go to sleepIm dying of boredom|0 I heard the same from a local news station specifically that covid cannot even last on cardboard wtfOn a side note its so pathetic that news stations are still having commercials or a dedicated channel to factual news has not been created while getting updates also being sold a car and whatever other ads they throw in|0 SARS and MERS were more than happy in hot climates no reason so far to think this virus will be wildly different in that regard|1 Im having big anxiety right now from reading this thread Please hear me I was sick this weekend and it was gone by Monday But it didnt full go away and now its gotten worse again and Im more sick than I was on the weekend Im 29 but im not in good shape Im stressed about this now|0 The Presidents proposed budget will never pass as is Congress will shut down all of his stupid cuts as they have with every other waste of paper he has submitted|0 Time to brace for a recession|0 Maybe he shouldnt have voted over and over to repeal the Affordable care act over and over without proposing any viable alternative while keeping his cadillac Senator health care plan|1 Albuterol stops asthma attacks bronchospasm by relaxing muscles around the airway It has no significant effect on inflammation and swelling in the airways and alveoliGlucocorticoidsare a class ofcorticosteroids which reduce swelling and inflammation|0 Theres a 0 chance we lock down the country for that long without society collapsing its just not feasible|1 While I doubt it its fucking strange that I find this oddly comforting if its true|1 Well Thats a big proportionate jump up|1 Im quite sure he already has it because he has met within the last 10 days with three people who have all tested positive|1 There will be some immunity if you catch it you get immunity to that specific strain So if some catch it the first time of course some people will have a bit of a resilience|0 You can make your own hand sanitizer with rubbing alcohol and aloe vera gel|1 I wouldnt know We dont eat cats dogs and bats hereIn case you think this is untrue please readhttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthwildlifeidUSKCN20L0T7|1 This is absurdDoctors dont wear masks for general visits because they have developed immunities to most viruses and bacterias and they take all their vaccines If someone comes in with a communicable disease you bet they wear masks Masks work Its a fact People saying that they dont work are lying The problem is that there isnt enough Nothing is foolproof Even self isolation is not done properly can expose you|0 The United States is 1 inPrevention of the emergence or release of pathogensEarly detection reporting for epidemics of potential international concernRapid response to and mitigation of the spread of an epidemic|1 As as per the official Hubei govt page more than 4k clinical diagnoses were added which I assume means that they have pneumonia and a doctor has considered it likely that it is COVID19 but it hasnt been confirmed via tests Its something worth noting|1 Within the last couple of years the Chinese government designated TCM as effective medicine and the TCM practitioners legitimate doctors in order to stop wage and work disparity between Chinese doctors practicing western medicine and those practicing TCM The majority of Chinese people do not believe TCM is more effective than western medicine for serious diseases and the government ensuring that people have the option of treatments they want is something I dont see as bad per se In the US we have done something similar You can choose to go to an MD or a DO A DO will not always choose to prescribe western medicine for all treatmentsI just see this as the chinese government not wanting to promote that TCM is ineffective for every illness or health issue or that its actually harmful|1 Its not too late to do something but its too late to avert disaster|0 Not sure what youre talking about Did you not check the image link to see what this whole thread was about|0 well its haram right|1 Im currently working on compiling a timeline of company responses to the crisis both good and bad to be released to consumers at a later dateFeel free to DM me any information on companies either positively or negatively effecting both their employees and consumers|1 Yes they say this is akin to 911 in terms of trauma and its just getting started Its slow which makes it worse as well One day at a time stay positive|1 The rate R0 is just how many people on average a given person will pass an infection to Dont read too much into it yet its just an average and it is highly dependent on circumstancesWith that said its almost certain at this point that no matter the circumstances this virus is contagious enough that it will not be possible to contain it to the point that its realistic to expect the virus to die out before infecting a large portion of the susceptible population|0 this is just really disheartening They have just given up on containing and going straight for delaying They even said that they wont be testing that aggressively now|0 Yeah yeah You lot wind me up thats for sure|1 Add an oil crisis a dollar crisis a sovereign debt crisis a recessiondepression and a trade war into that mix|0 What if you find a effective anti viral You cannot allow deaths in anticipation of something that you do not know|1 20 days in the hospital is pretty shitty Swine flu took a week or two|0 Mad lad|0 Congrats on ditching that mess Not only is he a moron hes a dangerous moron Hed happily infect your son for the sake of conspiracy Wait for this to blow over and find yourself a good man that one is a bullet dodged|0 Code Orange just did this same thing this weekend So awesome that bands are doing this|1 Frontline heroes Thank you for your enduring bravery work and care amidst such overwhelming hardship and suffering Rest in peace doctor|1 I found a pharmacy recently that sells masks placed in the ziplock 5 pcs for fucking 10 i was hoping it has gold but it has none Im disappointed|1 Tobacco usage seems to effect the expression of ACE2 receptors in the lungshttpswwwresearchgatenetpublication339049390TobaccoUseDisparityinGeneExpressionofACE2theReceptorof2019nCov Also wondering if activating CB2 receptors in the lungshttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticleabspiiS0898656820300334 could help people with lethal pneumonia as well|1 Finally a good diary of the situation Thanks for a bit of insight|1 Smart Now if only the US could do something like that|1 This is a great post to show people who dont get it yet|1 The Naked Man festival I literally learned about this a month ago and my first thought was imagine if someone sneezesor farts|1 Yes I believe he and his administration will do the best they can to staff the CDC with qualified people But I have to ask you why would they do anything but|1 right especially with the notification of Olympics potentially being cancelled lol|1 The market moves up and down but the general trend is to go down Just curious what did you short|1 Who knows people would probably still claim the media was hyping it up The media really was downplaying everything up until recently and they were only talking about it to come against misinformation Now that they are actually coming to grips with the reality of this pandemic and its become front page news again people immediately jumped on the hype panic fake news train Damned if you do and damned if you dont Maybe people wont take this seriously until it affects them personally sadly|0 I will be messaging you in 7 months on 20201117 161813 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202011172016181320UTC20To20Local20Time 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on where they are from Very frustrating|0 Good point Test kit quality can be improved over time but stealthy virus is like not from this world|1 Yeah both get you in prison|0 Yes a moment of panic is very beneficial in the face of a threat But muricans that went on total panic are making the spread of the infection even stronger by crowding the markets and not actually listening to the medics that told people to wash their hands more often and avoid touching their face and other potential infected surfaces Their exaggerated panic is actually making their economy go into chaos mode due to lack of any conscious thought in their actions|0 He will blame Obama and the Democrats|0 That was mildly entertaining|1 Trump needs to impose a mandatory one month quarantine on everybody in the US and suspend all public gatherings for the next 812 months This is the only way this will get any better|0 Not if civil unrest is part of his formula He said the other day that the market will come back at the right time I think he knew a crashcorrection was imminent withwithout coronavirus I think he also believes it will come back and rally before November whether misguided or not The richest people are the ones who benefit from market crashes also Wealth inequality increases during recessions|1 Thanks for the link|1 Yep me too|1 Well thats awkward|1 Nah Uzo comes from Zophael aka Jophiel an obscure angel Picked up the nickname during various dabblings in the occult Zophael ended up shortened to Zo This however was too short So it was extended to Uzo as in hey you ZoOver several years in Japan I found Uzo quirky kanji was much easier for the locals to say than my actual name And it stuck|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17712 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices20428 uKebapSamurai at 3 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 I like that and Im going to steal it|0 Every place has its idiots To suggest that Americans as a whole are uneducated is an ignorant statement in itself|0 The majority of the public will not know to do this This is a hospital issue not a people issue As seen in Wuhan when this first broke out the hospital is the place you go to GET the coronavirus in the beginning til everyone gets their shit together|0 Wow never wouldve guessed|1 Very good post 1point3acres is the best US one Ive seen With almost live updates links to sources and you can click on the state to show you which countries the cases are in Extremely helpful and far better info than the media is reporting|1 Torbays where I from Believe it started from kids coming back from Italian trips A lot of elderly here NHS is always very over stretched and underfunded here Quite alot of general poverty as well|0 And also dont understand that the evidence doesnt support them either|0 In Canada there can be years of waiting lists for medically necessary but not urgent surgeries If you miss it too bad Years more It can have a huge impact on your quality of life|0 This comment will age very well|1 This is why I wish there were protections for workers in the US and more people had the ability to work from home Honestly most workplaces should be closing and allowing employees to work from home I know its not possible in many serviceoriented jobs and then kids wont be sent to grandparents when schools close|1 Thats cute Trying to shame somebody into exposing themselves to a risk because you yourself are afraid of the risk Shes not a soldier shes a nurse and she didnt automatically sign up to die in a pandemic by working as one|0 I agree People have let themselves get too distracted easily by a flashy infrastructure project Even if you dont work in medicine if you stopped to think about it for a second it should be fairly obvious that the bottleneck is medical equipment and medical professionals not buildingsNow if China knows a way to train a fullfledged medical doctor in 10 days then that would be truly amazing|1 Lets yell about fault|0 Yes by agreement of the provinces Except in Quebec which has its own program|1 Thats highly problematic Your government should implement a ban on all travel to and from China|0 Were all Americans Were all humans While I may disagree with a lot of people on things I am sincerely hoping for more testing and to flattenthecurve|1 Please wipe your computer down with bleach|1 The US cannot rely on their current government The US has such an inbred mistrust of government Until that is repaired you wont be able to have a coordinated effort The rest of western countries love to grouse about how bad our government is but we love the universal health care and pensions and unemployment insurance etc We have systems we can use to ramp up to combat this The only functioning US government agency that could potentially handle this is your military If in a month the US is like Italy you may have the military in charge of the response|1 Im sorry Was it a Well call you when we have work situation or are they expecting to be down for good I hope Im coming across the right way Im not trying to trivialize your situation Im just trying to understand how things are working outside of my bubble|1 Germany is moving slower than a turtle So much for efficiency|1 Ive had a theory that he doesnt want to stay and also wont taint his legacy by resigning so hes trying to get removed and hand the reigns off to Pence|1 I really gotta stop doing it on the train during rush hour|0 bluechipsupplycom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Fuck you buddy ill stick to tampons|0 I have an inlaw who felt it was OK to go skiing last week and is now quarantined with their children Aspen outbreak|1 Antihistamines only treat bacteria not viruses|1 This is good as it means that the case fatality rate is much lower than estimated|0 Uhhh the Trump administration has publicly endorse the 1K|1 Ill send some love their way at the same time|1 I wouldnt say the CDC numbers are bogus but dangerously incomplete and inherently misleading|0 School isnt meant to be babysitting and that Americans have let it come to that is a great shame|1 Pretty close I had a little house in the country with well water and a few acres to grow veggies Should have paid it off and put on the solar panels when I had the chance instead of moving to the expensive place in the cityNot sure what I thought was going to happen I just wanted to be as selfreliant as possible|1 And those spears are definitely NOT practice weapons Even a semi skilled spearman can fuck you up fast Run awaaaay|1 No I mean as in oh boy thats a lot of masks Problem there is massive I cant tell from this article if its 1k or 10k Its not you They use both numbers httpswwwansaitenglishnews202003102mnmasks1000ventilatorscomingfromchina5be78418eee394c2f80125203372d3a46htmlhttpswwwansaitenglishnews202003102mnmasks1000ventilatorscomingfromchina5be78418eee394c2f80125203372d3a46html|0 He makes it sound like a flu but why is China quarantining millions and losing a shit ton of money if its just a flu|0 Welcome to January|1 Currently a housekeeper I asked my supervisor if coughing into your arm and then having to stuff pillowcase with those same arms was hygienic She thought I was being ridiculous I have laryngitis and went in to pri e instant lying and the stillwante me to work today People who choose to travel should be wary of the people who cleaned their rooms I personally use gloves and hand sanitize and make sure not to cross contaminate the linens but some people dont give a shit and willkeep their gloves on after scrubbing the toilet and proceed to grab clean towels and stock the bathroom Stay home If it gets slow I wont have to go to work|1 i know there are five stages of grief what are the five stages of pandemic panic is definitely first i went through that in the beginning when i started paying more attention to the virus once they quarantined wuhan got my masks and soap and hand sanitizers and lysol preparedness i suppose i follow this really closely now and can sort out the facts from apocalyptic projections well at least i think i can its very important to educate ourselves and keep up with whats going on im prepared and thankful that the rest of the world is somewhat prepared i mean at least we know about it unlike the people of wuhan and the rest of hubei province this is a great advantage to us we might not like that the governments are not reacting as much as we might like them to but i think we all know its going to become a reality that eventually it will be something we will face in our own neighbourhoods no matter where we are i guess thats acceptance im still worried about family members that are older and my son especially who has typeI diabetes and works at an airport good lord but at least we are a smaller city in canada and by the time it becomes a problem here we will have learned even more about the virus and more precautions will be in place sorry for rambling just trying to work things out in my mind|1 I hate that this has turned into something political|0 China lied|0 Ruqqus dev here You can browse the all guilds over at ruqquscombrowsehttpsruqquscombrowseI want to stress that were still in beta and are very much in active development Still small but were growing |1 Loans arent monetization of a project equity is Equity is representation of a right to future earnings while loans are notLook you can tell me about your experience or talk about one tiny piece of the government output that is NASA or you can read a report like this from a respected consultancy grouphttpswwwmckinseycommediamckinseydotcomclientservicepublic20sectorpdfshowcanamericangovernmentmeetitsproductivitychallengeashxIm basing my comment off economic theory not my feelings or anecdotal personal experiencesTheories and empirical studies can be found herehttpsassetspublishingservicegovukgovernmentuploadssystemuploadsattachmentdatafile443448Productivityandcompetitionreportpdf|1 Another outlier yeah|1 Online shopping is not the best way in the current situation There migh be shortages in the warehouses also dates might be not long enough as it can be seen in the shop|0 I think it would be a nice gesture for you to donate 2 considering you only have 2000 in the bank |1 Yes its happeningSee my stolen meme that was forwarded to me herehttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusMemescommentsfdkwx0livelongandprosper|0 This person appears to be using the word transparent to mean clearly I dont think they meant transparency as it is usually applied to governments They meant to imply the USA government is clearly incompetent and bungling this response They wanted to sound fancy but messed up|0 But we are in the darkest timeline|0 Yeah Havent you seen The Thing What if COVFEFE19 mutate into a sort of protean zombie hydra gestating nightmare virus|1 No fucking shit They are a big part of the at risk we are trying to protect My grandparents wont hear of it|0 Glad I am not the only one|1 They made the bed they can die in it Ill have some respect for dying old people when they create a health system that cares for everyone|1 Thats the first time I hear heavily pregnant and it sounds somehow cute and funny|1 Thank you|1 But theyll ensure that you never get the virus under control|1 Not every serious emergency is going ot affect the whole country If a big hurricane made landfall in New York or Florida it wouldnt be a national crisis either but itd be silly to say it cant be called a state crisis|1 At my moms store they cant protect themselves because customers are stealing everything that isnt hidden or bolted to the floor Hand sanitizer for employees the gloves for flu shots anything remotely useful looking And then customers demanding to use the stores supply because they dont want to dip into the stash they already bought and are hoarding Its really upsetting and sad that people are being so ignorant of social consequences to others especially the people on the front lines who are the most likely to get sick|0 Same argument holds|0 I have very reactive asthma Im mostly fine but if I get a virus it gets bad and at times hospitalise me I am genuinly terrified about the thought of getting this But no one is being clear on this Hopefully the criteria is those eligible for flu jabs if so Im safe|0 As for clarity the absence of traffic that moves the sediments is certainly the cause of this miracle from the tropical seaLack of stirring up whats there seems to be the main cause|1 Are these brits native northern europeans As horrible as this sounds I really want to know how this virus affects asians vs northern europeans There is potential for differences based on lung capacity and ace2 inhibitor blah blah blah Im not a medical person whatsoever just curious|0 I will land there too next week still considering if Ill push through with my trip|0 What would forced quarantine mean like we cant leave our houses or the state or something|0 For more information about n95 respirator and general preparedness you can head out to our Wiki pagehttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19wikiindexpreparednessIf you are unable to find what you need in our Wiki resubmit your question in the Daily General PosthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseuqgqedailygeneralpost2jan272020questionsimagesI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 A true hero|1 the cost of isolation exceeds that of enduring the virus realistically weve failed to contain it sooner or later it will be everywhere you just want to take reasonable steps to slow it down to buy time to find treatments and to prevent an overload of cases all at oncethis is pretty much going to be a new strain of the common cold now much like how the spanish flu became part of the commun flu just prepare yourself for the initial wave it will likely be the worst|0 Please message modmail I dont have the google forms link anymore|1 When you returned home did you visit any banks or places of business like that|1 On the radio here someone was saying mostly old people die and they only cost money That right there is the issueFirst of all old people provide lots of services unpaid that have monetary value The 60 crowd help their kids renovate homes and babysit so young people can work They volunteer They help their geriatric parents not be dependant on nursing homes They provide a lot of emotional mental practical advice and support to their kids and grandkids You know I read like 10 of people who lose a family member end up with depression symptoms for a while Now imagine if everyone lost at least one family member suddenly at the same time and 10 of the population had depression symptoms at the same time Great for the economy man|1 SARS vaccine trials indicated that the vaccine caused the immune system to attack the organs of test subjects|0 I dont know about that AOC Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib aka the Squad that endorsed Bernie are all proUBI Tlaib actually proposed a 3000 guaranteed incomehttpswwwvoxcomfutureperfect201961218661492rashidatlaibbasicincomecashearnedincometaxcredit I dont think its out of the question for Sanders to propose UBI policy in addition to his already existing rent control and FJG proposals Maybe if they nudged Sanders to support UBI he would change his position|1 One of the worst companies I ever worked for to be honest Maybe it was just my location but I couldnt even do 2 days at that place Absolutely run like complete shit and paid shit at the time To be fair that was 5 years ago|0 Or their new leader Who knows these people dont think very hard|1 Well the far majority of those people still wont die|1 Terrible demographics TFR well below 21 which represents a rate of sustenance of a populationNormally there are more women than men in any given human population except under 35 or so due to naturally more males born than females ratio ca 105100 30 million excess men more so if you discount elderly where women have higher numbers in the fertile age will cause problems men without brides Rapes abductions other sexrelated crimes will rise Less children born|1 Im just making reasonable assumptions and showing how the alarm would not necessarily have been sounded weeks ago It could have been That it wasnt isnt necessarily all that surprising|0 Ive been having a creeping feeling that basically boils down to this sentimentHow is this crisis not going to cause our society to unravelSomeone please tell me|0 Excellent Just ordered some for Click Collect|1 They poisoned my whole state with this crap|0 As the numbers get bigger it becomes more difficult to map all the points with the existing map libraries that I know of anyway the browsers limits are a limitation An other prob may be is its too much work and needing more work every day as cases increaseIf you find a database of cities infections let me know and Ill add it to ccpfreecom|0 A mask like that does nothing to stop viruses I mean common there is a gaping hole in the side Also a virus gets into the mask fibres then youre just recirculating it|1 The tests were faulty Not being done|0 Unless you are like in some small selfsufficient island or something i dont think thats achievable anymore|1 Is America not testing enoughIsnt it exactly this Everything Ive read is that its really hard to get tested in the US|0 Yep youll find yourself in a much healthier space if you dont eat meat Im living testament of that I got nothing against people that do Im not an animal lover etc but modern meat is completely tainted|0 Please go to Grady I have been told directly they will test you|1 Not if election postponed|1 People are almost all stating their opinions on things because even if your government tells you X thing it doesnt make X thing true Hell my government is saying Dont avoid crowds Dont wear masks This isnt very infectious You need to be sitting with an infected person for an extended period of time to be infected All real quotes from my government and health officials and all either horrible advice or downright lies|0 This is a classical cytokine stormChloroquine is known to inhibit proinflammatory cytokine releasehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed9575969Could that be a possible mechanism of action against coronavirus complications Because some symptoms of cytokine sound a fair bit like initial reported symptoms for covid19|1 Could they pull the employees in to help COVID19 patients|1 How bad do you believe this virus is|0 that is what I thought as well that was the impression they gave in speech after Cobra meeting although lets be fair nothing coming out of this goverment is clear|1 They actually have branched out into produce and stuff in a lot of locations Look up Dollar General Markets Most of the normal locations that Ive seen sell at least basic stuff like frozen ground beef now alongside other things like that in the freezers The Dollar General Pluss usually have even moreIt may still technically be a general store but DGs primary focus is a lot of places is replacing the grocery store now|1 whats wrong with letting people stay at home if they only have mild symptoms as long as they dont do anything stupid Id rather spend 2 weeks at home with my PC TV and internet than in a shitty makeshift hospital dieing from boredom|0 On a very serious note I do have symptoms minus the difficulty breathing Ive had a temp of 101104 for 3 days Sore throat coughing and congested Selfquarentined so far but where do I go to get tested and what would be the cheapest way as I dont have insurance Thanks in advance hoping just the flu but I wanna be cautious|0 If theyre lifelong smokers I dont think your worries will end with the coronavirus Just saying|1 I like how 4000 people died but 62000 recoved|0 We just dont have enough test kits for everyone right now so certainly for now they are only testing the sickest Maybe ifwhen we get more kits theyll expand things but right now today it is only the sickest being tested|1 Im sorry I misread this We are lucky because my husband works from home and I am a stay at home mom|1 Oh sorry I was unaware but wouldnt it still be better to wear one as if you were infected and not wearing the respirator youd be spreading it anyway|0 Y2K Looked up The reason nothing happened is because people where hard at work to prevent it And now everyone wonders what the fuzz was about because we prevented the disaster scenario Sad truths|0 The greatest display of evolution in the history of mankind is the ability of fools to overcome measures designed to protect them|1 There is very little doctors can do about this except put you on a ventilator when symptoms get severe Basically the main problem is your lungs stop working as effectively and you cant breathe You can buy a pulse oximeter off Amazon for 15 I got one When your oxygen levels drop too low thats when you go to the ER But you can also tell when youre getting blueish and panting for airOutside of those symptoms I dont think hospitals will help much Self quarantine and take tylenoladvil for feverI suggest everyone do their own research but to the best of my knowledge thats all true|1 Same I have been following for a few weeks now 90 of friends and family said I was overreacting This week everyone has changed Strange times PSdo NOT watch Contagion its pretty spooky|1 Thank you my Lords|1 Hope sanity takes over Everybody is on the same boat theres no way you can deny it now If we get on the same page mentally we can beat this|0 I am Its bad|0 The question supposed to beWhen did China stop welding its citizens into their homes|0 And other things But then again they could care less as long they stash as much cash as they can to feed their families ect|1 I totally believe that it was a 63 year old woman There are loads of reports of Boomers not taking it seriously|1 Yep same thing happened to me I got laughed at by doctors Im over it now I tried I dont know how bad its going to get I honestly thought the numbers would be higher by now So far its much more benign than I thought The results have been severe though at least here in the US we are literally shut down None of my friends are working the entire state of Maryland is closed|1 If you dont think its already in Miami I dont know how to help you|1 I feel like that says enough|1 champagne how many bottles are you down alreadyedit Wait shampaggin is an actual thingHuh TIL|1 This graph is bullshit while I agree the American healthcare system is probably that low on the list but Canada should be in the top 20 XD|1 1918 was just a Flu too btw|0 Soak your clothes hair and face before you go in and have a coughing fit whilst explaining that although you dont feel well youll come back to work if really needed|1 Sure httpswwwgooglecomampsampcnncomcnn20200217healthnovelcoronavirussurfacesstudyindexhtmlYoull see lots of people referencing 9 days as the outer limit for surfaces I am pretty sure that refers to plastic and metal Ive read info from the WHO that says they dont believe mailpackages are a threat Right now many people dont believe that the WHO is taking a cautionary tact and many believe the organization is too concerned with business and trade I wouldnt be surprised that the virus remains on paper for a much shorter time but I just dont think we know enough right now to be quite confident that all is well Besides lets say it doesnt live more than a day on cardboard What about the delivery driver who just handled it And does it survive longer on the plastic window that covers the address part On the tape It strikes me that this is probably not the source of greatest risk right now thats good old fashioned people but I can also see it being quite reasonable to let your packages and mail sit for a few days until you know that your country is periodically sample testing the mail to make sure its not an issue|1 oops wrong sub|0 Essentially theyre trying to slow it down as to not overload the current medical infrastructure|1 As someone in the same space Id say theres a couple if your employees dont work from home regularly1If employees arent used to working from home productivity will be lower to get started But that can be mitigated if youre doing appropriate daily standups and project management2Some orgs with on prem systems havent fully tested their VPNs might have a nasty surprise when everyone tries logging in at once At my company were designed to be remote so this is a non issue for us But I hate to imagine coordinating this at companies that arent used to remote workEdit folks Im not arguing for or against WFH for COVID19 Im just thinking about WFH in general and the challenges companies may face It really is a cultural shift with pros and cons|0 That is the correct way to approach it Its not a matter of if its a matter of when However approaching it with a cautious yet concerned attitude will make it easier for us to deal with it And again assuming you live in a first world country our governments are better prepared for stuff like this than the CCPlocal Chinese governments areIf you are still worried please see a mental health professional Im a hypochondriac myself and therapists will help you develop techniques to deal with your anxiety|1 Dont look a gift horse in the mouth Just shut up and say thank you The US isnt exactly in a position to turn away any help right now|1 Unfortunately they wont test you You dont fit the criteria It is the problem everywhereno one can be tested despite what pence says|0 Best wishes to you|1 And for good reason This subreddit DIDNT DO the gene sequencing They did however say that steps should be taken long before anyone in a position of power ACTUALLY DECIDED to do anything or make a big deal out of this|1 Is that bad or good|0 Hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs airlines dont exist for a while and if someone does decide to buy up assets and start a new airline not a given airlines are a risky low margin high capital investment business and cant be started up overnight tickets will be very expensive|0 Have big enough family to care Sorry|1 I agree with you there will be less people but reducing schedules will put more people closer together potentially unless people really stop moving around all together|0 its bad when 20 scientistsdoctorspoliticians give contradictory statementslike for example half of the experts claim masks dont work but we see every doctor in a space suitand police etc all wearing face masksSo an honest report from an apointed source with clear instructions is better if its honest of course|1 This link also does not backup your claim of CDC estimates 50 million Americans will get infectedIts weird to see your irrelevant links upvoted Its like people arent reading them including yourself|1 That glibness aside still doubtful|0 Places like New York are more interconnected than Italyhttpswwwworldatlascomarticlesthetop10bestpublictransitsystemsintheworldhtml If Italy are taking all these measures and its that bad there why would New York City be any better Donald Trump wants to keep the numbers lowhttpstwittercomatruparstatus1236054778318393344 and the Governor of New York is saying that testing is being withheldhttpstwittercomNBCNewYorkstatus1236676140179296257s20|1 There is some discussion around school closure We know from influenza that it can be an effective way to reduce transmission Children can be infected with COVID19 typically have mild symptoms but probably can transmit about equally well as other age groups So preventing large groups of children to gather in school can be an important measure to reduce overall transmission But these measures need to be accompanied with regulations about how to take care of the kids and whether parents are allowed to staywork at home Furthermore it will be important for how long these measures are implemented so timing is an important aspect as well|1 Id be more worried about visiting an airport|0 Press 1 for the ultrahigh net worth investor conference call or press 2 for rChinaFlu|1 Even if they have the tests they arent using them In many parts of western Washington they wont test you even if you show all the symptoms unless you can confirm youve had contact with someone positive You know despite the fact experts are saying that its been spreading unchecked for weeks|1 We really need to be computing two death rates One in the presence of western medical care and two without it You cant somehow integrate international and Chinese numbers to obtain a single reasonable death rate It is highly likely the death rate would be far higher internationally if hospitals were overwhelmed which they would be in all but the first few weeks of an outbreak Communicating the impression that international death rates will be lower without making note of the withwithout care distinction may lead people and governments cough Canada cough to underestimate the seriousness of the virus to their own health and safety|0 Mortality rate depends on hospital capacity Also different countries have been able to test far more people than for others If you included all people who had the virus even those without symptoms its possible that only 5 or 10 of everyone with virus actually requires medical attention theoretically However obviously if hospitals are at capacity that could lead to higher fatalities pretty quickly|0 I would love for this virus to bring people together in a spirt of common good rather then farther tearing them apart|1 pulling my kids out of school in the next two days if the government dont do itI done it today It wasnt easy|0 The system definitely used to work When people first became aware that zika outbreaks were causing birth defects the CDC was all over that shit They promptly got finding from Congress that had been earmarked for the earlier Ebola outbreak They not only tested and monitored women in the US but they shipped loads more tests to dozens of countries and helped them with processing and tracking When SARS was a thing the CDC worked with other government disease control departments to implement universal measures to identify manage and contain the spread of the disease Everyone was on top of it And it wasnt just smaller outbreaks H1N1 infected an estimated 20 of the population but that was handled really smoothly and effectively Yeah H1N1 is endemic now but initially they thought it was going to be more deadly than it was and they responded accordingly Im not sure exactly where the breakdown with this happened if I had to guess Id say its upper level political influence combined with prior layoffs of key individuals who were never replaced Individuals for whom biodefense and pandemic control was basically their baby but I absolutely think there will be long term repercussions for this There was a shit storm following Zika because the CDC initially received less funding than they felt they needed If getting 1 billion instead of 13 billion or whatever it was caused fallout this absolutely will It will be shocking if people arent fired over this|0 This is just the first confirmed case Based on the symptoms Im convinced I had it in October but back then no one knew what it was or that it existed|0 Youre a moron Bet you were laughing at people preparing for whats going on now weeks ago right Lmao|1 How this fraudster didnt disappear after his first scandal speaks volumes about his audience As the old saying goes a fool and his money are soon parted|0 But these loans are out at 0 You cant make money on that Well be lucky to ever get it back|1 You cant trust anything out of Russia|0 Probably doesnt help that many people in this country are either unwilling to or completely unable to see a doctor for what they at first assume is a mild illness Theyll continue to go to school and work because thats the American way I guess|0 Be ready to donate if they call for donations Im O and I will respond|1 If you havent had a fever this whole time you almost definitely do not have it Fever is the main symptom and has been shown in 99 of cases Compared to dry cough only being present in 60 of cases Sore throat has only been present in 5 of casesStill stay home and self isolate but chill out You probably have a cold Colds usually dont have fever but do have cough and sore throat Its allergy flu and cold season|0 That vid is from 3 years ago fyi|1 Oh noooI have to whisle blow some things myself Wonder if a tweet would be better Anonymous if course|1 China also arrested people trying to speak out about the virus for monthssooooooooo|0 Like the word that Oak gave your mother|1 If your friend is in Cali or Florida then report them This is illegal during a state of emergency which has been declared in both states|0 Im speechless Good luck USA|1 Cases Yes|1 Its Never give up Never surrender Love that movie|0 Ok but Im talking about n95 mask availability as manufacturing rates are impacted due to the virus and product availability rates are impacted by the virus overpurchasing|1 So what Things happen And thats it What else would you have done differently Getting too worried about it is not going to be helpful The coronavirus is not a death sentence You may succumb to it as well as survive it There is nothing to that can tell if its your time to go or not Basically dont make a big deal about it because you just feed the psychosis|1 Right youd think they would take more drastic measure earlier because they want to keep the Olympics on|1 The target I went to was almost completely out of hand sanitizer he said people had been coming in all morning|1 I moved here for education to advance my career and disliked NYC immediately the fact that I am here for THIS and that I am a health professional is blowing my mind I have never felt so out of place the day this all ends and I can go home the catharsis is unimaginable|0 As someone living in one of the hardest hit regions of the US Bay Area I really appreciate your comment Seeing all of the changes listed out makes me a lot more optimistic about the short and mediumterm outcomes|1 true but for some that elsewhere is dubious I ventured out to a grocery story a couple of hours ago not to stock up but to get milk and some other staples ok I admit I bought some ramen and cup noodles And in the parking lot I saw not one but two dudes stuff the tailgates of their CUVs to the brim with toilet paper That tells me theyre not getting their info from reliable sources I also saw a lady getting yelled at because she was limited to 5 cans of lysol You cant just go out and come back in and buy 5 more|1 Oh no whatever will we do |0 Thank you so much I can literally feel fear and anxiety running through my body ever since this started I needed this You are my hero of the week|1 Or want to make one trip and not go back for 3 to 4 weeks|1 93 a week off the top of my headI certainly couldnt live on that|1 Correct But theres a 02 chance of this happening so just be aware of this|1 No CDC has sucked from the beginning|0 Given the subject matter it goes beyond selling news and is actually quite reckless The media is soulless so I guess Im not surprised|0 The whole time China was straight up lying about their numbers I dont see any reason to believe that has changed|0 We struggled this year already with the flu My son brought it home from school and it took him out for a week Hes super active no pre existing conditions I had to stay up several nights alternating Tylenol and Motrin and replacing cold compresses on his body because his temperature was 1042 and would shoot back up 2hrs after each dose It wiped out half of his school and yet you couldnt just keep your child home as a precaution to avoid getting sick It sucked and it eventually took me down with it and I was washing my hands like crazy and had him quarantined to what we call the sick room at our house I dont feel reassured at all by these studies and I sure as hell feel helpless as how to defend myself and my family from asymptotic spreaders who think they are in the clear and then a month later SHTF|0 the dude next to me is licking his fingers help me|1 Possibly guarding hospitals when they end up needing to choose between who gets care and who doesnt|1 The numbers have been shown if you make religions not tax free we could pay for healthcare with that money alone lol|0 Americans are at risk because of the cost of our healthcare People will avoid going to the hospital until its too late or because they think that some natural remedy is better then actual medical care|1 Look at those enormous mass graves dug up in Iran It could be even worse if situations get out of hand|0 I worked at a call center once where over a rolling 12 month period your 3rd unplanned absence resulted in your termination Doctors notes werent accepted because they had been abused in the past|0 Korea had a ridiculously unique cluster outbreak in terms of an entire church getting infected and many of them not getting checked out for a whileA doomsday cult that has been potentially linked to other outbreaks in the past That cult is very similar to the Japanese doomsday cult that carried out a sarin gas attack on a subway in the 90s|0 Thats what they claim theres no evidence they can do sohttpswwwnytimescom20200303healthcoronavirustestsfdahtmlEstimates Fall Short of FDAs Pledge for 1 Million Coronavirus TestsPublic and private labs say theyre not even close to reaching the federal governments promises that thousands if not a million tests for the virus could be performed soon|1 Also need time for the parents to adjust take care of daycare for the children|1 True Many years ago I was not hospitalised for viral pneumonia though I was prescribed antiviral medication The plural of anecdote is not evidence and not every country is the US or is handling healthcare as poorly as the US|1 Here in France we were too slow as well and only fully under quarantine now A slow reaction that will cost numerous lives Even though we had the chinese then Italy then Spain examples I cant believe we did the wrong choices with so clear examplesEveryday without lockdown is making everything worse I hope you guys make some sense of it soon|1 Well if you live in California thatll end now Im sure other states will follow soon|1 THIS Give me a good book over a lot of people any day|1 The travelled outside the US question is ridiculous Im in Australia We currently have lowish numbers just starting the upwards tick here and we have been tracing contacts Anyway largest group for us by a long shot have a recent travel history from the US No where else In fact more than double the amount of cases than those with a travel history with China or Europe This is highly concerning in terms of travel patterns There is so much more traffic between Australia and Asia and Australia and Europe than Australia and the US I hate to say it but you guys have a giant unrecognised problem Our government is stupid too so were just a few weeks behind you|0 Fuck I wasnt even looking at that|0 Good news|1 it can take a significant amount of time for people to get to the ICU with this disease these people have been sick for a while and likely infected many other people already Get ready the wave is coming|0 Damn thats fancy Youre still paying for it though unless you mean a hotel|0 Absolute hero|1 I should have been clear that I was critiquing only one example of the people with cavalier attitudes Surely they come from all ages and backgrounds|1 Which is refreshing for a change after many posts of the fear|0 Idk Jacky Ma was educated in the United States and has said he was inspired by his time here to make Ali Baba He has been successful in China for using American ideas both technical and cultural|1 Stop spreading false information The majority of people with the virus are not being tested Therefore every single percentage is massivelylowered If 150000000 were going to die then the entire world would be on lockdown|0 The fuck building are you in And what the fuck is your management doingDowntown is largely a ghost town from what Im hearing|0 Ask nicely That is not what the US did The White House declared a public health emergency and beginning on Sunday at 5 pm will bar nonUS citizens who recently visited China from entering the United States subject to a few exemptions Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar also said the Trump administration would quarantine any Americans who had visited Chinas Hubei province where the disease originated within the past 14 days The government will also require screening and selfquarantines for all other Americans who recently visited any other parts of China Officials said the selfquarantine rules would require individuals to stay in their homes for a certain length of time monitor themselves for certain symptoms such as coughing and check their temperatures and report them to local health officialsThat was back on January 31The problem is that other countries just asked nicely as you said Tragedy of the commonsThe WHO even advised against it at the time The DirectorGeneral of the WHO stated that Travel restrictions can cause more harm than good by hindering infosharing medical supply chains harming economiesGive me a break|0 I saw that Bad bad times|0 Dont ask Its more fun for people to baselessly bash Trump or the GOP for upvotes|1 Cause cause cause I wanna travel and do as I wish But I will also tell everybody that travelling causes pollution and its not good for the environmentleftist millenial|1 Herbalife is a pyramid scheme that preys on vulnerable people|0 Yep You should have respiratory therapists to run the ventilators Maybe after this is all done everyone will know what a respiratory therapist does and value them more|1 Thats awesome Keep it up I smoked a pack a day which is a crazy amount of money|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Many governments are making temporary changes like keeping the power on or skipping mortgage payments Plus you cant work if youre sick or DEAD|0 Ive been using the data from Italy as a gage to see what is coming to the US This is hard to even put your head around Prayers to Italy and all countries |0 Thankfully and hopefully you are right too|1 China has a moral and ethical responsibility to ramp up production and export PPE Because they are the manufacturing hub of the world With great power comes great responsibility as Uncle Ben said When this outbreak subsides China will be declared the newly minted superpower while the United States will be officially declared shithole A shithole with guns and idiots running the country And this will be a welldeserved label for us|1 Dow to 10k if that happens He is near death what does he care if his plan desteoys the economy|0 Animal rights activists have urged the Indonesian Government to keep its promise to ban the brutal dog and cat meat trades after shocking new footage emerged of the animals being bludgeoned over the head and blowtorched while still alive The Dog MeatFree Indonesia DMFI coalition said the brutality was continuing at Extreme Market in North Sulawesis Tomohon City despite the Governments promise to ban the practice in August It was the most horrific cruelty I have witnessed so far in 10 years and it was all done in full view of very young children said Lola Webber director of Change for Animals Foundationx200BMaybe this article is full of shit I hope sohttpswwwabcnetaunews20180911dogsandcatsburntaliveatextrememarketinindonesia10222240|0 Oh lucky for me I rarely use it|1 Yes I should rephrase my comment That poor woman that guy looks mean|0 This might be why its taken some places so long to verify negative tests you want to test multiple times over the course of days to 100 confirm someone does not have the disease Better to be thorough than risking a false negative|0 the only good bug is a dead bug washes hands|0 httpsdamwikipediaorgwikiGormdenGamleGorm ruled Jutland from his seat in Jelling and paid tribute to kings in Germany His son Harald Bluetooth united the country won free from Germany renounced pagan beliefs and established a Denmark as a Christian kingdom so that the rest of the world would recognize their sovereignty It was at that point in time that the world recognized Denmark as a kingdom and is the official beginning of Denmark as a state according to the official historyGorm was a Danish king but not king of Denmark|1 Your system encountered a serious kernel problem Your system might become unstable now and might need to be restarted|0 We appreciate you so much Thanks for caring and whatever you decide to do please know that you are making a difference It is not your fault our government are putting others at risk|1 Before you get all yayyyyy Colorado it needs to be noted that it is still nearly impossible to be tested I have confirmed contact with a positive case have been symptomatic for 7 days have asthma but because I am 22 and not dying they will not write me a referral Obviously its still a step in the right direction for when more testing becomes available and the community spread forces the government to loosen criteria However the line at this thing is around 4 hours if you dont make it to the front in time they tell you to find a primary care practitioner who is testing and the results take 23 days to return Its not that efficient I also dont know how it could possibly protect the negatives from catching itETA obviously Im in Colorado about 15 min from the Denver site|1 Gaslighted or just straight up lied to|0 Thanks broly|1 Not sure about those They made a vaccine for H1N1 IIRC but maybe Im wrongI think they generally dont dedicate the time effort and money needed for a vaccine unless its something that is a risk to cause very large outbreaks consistently or at least if they do its more of a side effort rather than a concerted effort SARS they contained pretty quickly and is apparently extremely rare so I dont think it gets as much vaccine focus as other diseases This virus I could see them focusing on a vaccine for given the widespread outbreaks we are seeing|1 Looks like Irans health minister peaked too soon then|1 Oh okay So any country on there isnt has transmission rates that are too low for the time period|0 Nowhere near 30 Besides when the NHS is overrun the death rate will soar 20 of all cases require hospital treatment|0 How do you not pay for your insurance when your employer is paying for it|1 Mine just went away so far but yeah this is probably just anxiety|1 I think hundreds low thousands of cases in Washington Oregon California potentially New York is still somewhat controllable If testing is not widespread well have no idea where the virus is Well only be testing people who are gravely ill as we have been doing|0 It will Its always better to do curfew and quarantine at the start 2nd best is to do it right nowThe point is to Flatten the curvehttpsmedia14snbcnewscomjMSNBCComponentsVideo202003nhayescurve2003091920x1080focal760x428jpg In Italy theyve stopped giving oxygen to people over 80 Most people in SpainItaly ICUs are under 50 because they dont have the capacity to treat everyone and they have to literally decide who lives who diesCurfew now will drop the death toll by thousands Curfew last week would have done it by tens of thousands That is compared to curfew next week or the end of the week No curfew Deaths might be seven figuresIt will get bad really bad before it gets better|0 1 Not for a second I thought that the government of China is better than ours They are bad just in different ways2 Europe is not fucked they have universal healthcare WE America are fucked because we have a gazillion people who are uninsured and they wont get tested as its an outofpocket expense or even cured unless the symptoms are severe|1 Doubt it Well just buy from Vietnam Banglasdesh and Mexico and pat ourselves on the back|0 When does your programmed accusations of homophobia and rascisim kick in Can you fast forward the NPC code to that part Its the most amusing|1 If they allow shops to open precautions should be taken eg take away only or something to prevent people from gathering again|1 We wont have the truth on this for years or more Not just because of Trump but because as was pointed out earlier the president habitually lies about his health Reagan FDR and a few others all did it We might get tipped off if theres any changes in his calendar to isolate him but the truth wont come out till well after hes gone He might not have Covid19 but hes certainly adjacent to it between Mara Lago where cases are being confirmed and his attendance at events where it was confirmed|0 The last half of the announcement was just her saying I dont have that at this time etc Useless for those of us who need to know where someone went we would avoid it all|0 how is the semi reliable They can just as easily say the patient died from other causes if it was not officially diagnosed Ex 100 people are suspected but never tested if 5 of them die its not going to get added to the CV total|0 America is so utterly Fucked|0 right from the article This is not true said a NIAID spokesperson of the report in an emailed statement to Business Insider Absolutely garbage how democrats are trying to turn this into a political football|0 Before they break their arms patting themselves on the back for their public service Google and other large employers are often selfinsured and pay for their own health plans That means that if their employees cost too much the next time they negotiate how much Google pays for their insurance the cost will go up Google and others are simply doing the smart thing for their bottom line|1 Meanwhile churches are refusing to close their doors to allow people to pray Selfish as fuck|0 Some will want to mend fences some wont Stereotypes dont have opinions about other stereotypes not all Americans are bloated not all are softies who have never seen the world not all Iranians think their government is great or even acceptableSome Americans make a big deal about Iran being ruled by clerics that must be horrible imagine that repressing women etc or so we are told What I hear from Iranians including women is the problem is corruption the usual result of unchecked power since time immemorialAlso Iran is pretty developed When Trump made noises about banning certain Muslim countries it was the odd man in the group Most of the others were train wrecks that many countries would ban Eg Somalia Not in the same ballpark|0 In Mexico we are the sameHelp Our Mexican president just announced that the coronavirus is not deadly and its the same as the flu Mexico can become the country that makes it impossible to containhttpswwwmsncomesmxnoticiasmexicoamlotenemoscapacidadparaenfrentarcoronavirusnoesalgofatalarBB10wwtXliAAggxATHe also ordered the state authorities to let a cruise with suspected infected people disembark no other country wanted them He said not accepting the cruise is against human rights and just opened Mexico to every single cruise with infected people there are six cruise ships right now on Cozumelhttpswwwgooglecommxampswwweluniversalcommxnacionpoliticainhumanonegarentradadecruceroporsospechadecoronavirusamlo3fampAlso he welcomed students into the country that were studying in China without any type of quarantine The containment protocol consisted in calling them daily to see how they felthttpswwwanimalpoliticocom202002lleganestudiantesmexicanoschinacoronavirusFlights arriving to Mexico are not checked according to international procedures Flights from China are welcome and the authorities say the few that were delayed were due to re carpetinghttpswwwgooglecommxampswwwunotvcomnoticiasportalnacionaldetallecancelanvuelosdirectoschinamexiconoporcoronavirussalud463054Our incompetent health authorities have already given up and will NOT CONTAIN the virus they will just mitigate Our incompetent president ordered people not to be quarantined because it goes against human rightshttpswwwunotvcomnoticiasportalnacionaldetallesecretariadesaludofrececonferenciacoronavirus904904A few days ago AMLO said that the coronavirus is an invention by conservatives he still thinks in nineteen century categories to hurt HIM then he said we should not listen to anyone saying we should not hugSalubridad already gave up announcing that 84 million Mexicans will contract the diseaseThe 12 currently publicized cases are the ones that tested positive multiple times In Mexico they test any obvious case many times hoping it comes negative remember they have a 30 rate of false positives and when it does they just send the patient home In Monterrey there are already 30 confirmed cases the government has not announced them and in Merida 4 There is already community spreading and probably 10000 infected in the whole country today All the cases minus the 12 recognized by the government get handled as seasonal influenza cases by the health system a Mexican senator just blew the lead on thisIn 3 weeks to a month Mxico will be worst than Italy AMLO will soon be known as the Butcher of the 4T because he will be directly responsible for the death of more than 4 million people just counting Mexico and 20 milln people with permanent scarring of the lungs median scarring on coronavirus survivors 30 lung capacityPlease help the international community must regulate Mexico in its response to this threat before its too late and we become a vector a thousand times worst than China was|0 Super smart move on their part|1 Its fucked here Its going to be real bad A large majority of Americans cant afford twothree weeks off work let alone the exorbant medical bills they will no doubt be charged|0 Worked at a GPs clinic through flu season we would just say 24 hours for flu on hard surfaces There really isnt much benefit to underestimating how long the virus is viable on a surface if any so go with the max numberIts a similar thing with the whole quarantine debate People hear the median incubation time is 5 days and just take that as almost everyone will show it within 5 days and discuss shortening quarantine to 1 week because this is all excessive No guys Just No Median means that only 50 of people show symptoms within 5 days 95 or so will be 11 days or under Do you want to find nearly all the cases while people are still in quarantine or just half I wish this was explained properly in every news article that reports stats on incubation times|0 The CDC updates their webpage only a few times a week This isnt them not reporting Maybe not being transparent enough or lazy Dont trust twitter I dont ever use twitter and wont make an account Same with Facebook|0 On one side you have no one to infect you On another if you got it your kinda stranded|0 Stems from the playgroundGot to look cool and blend in else ill get picked on|0 Its funny that I read back old articles from January and see the narrative that Canada learned from SARS we are ready Well thats certainly going well from the amount of people I saw going in and out of the gym last week and at the bars and clubs in Toronto I wouldnt have known there was a pandemic going on|1 If you have had a contact and dont show symptoms come to work If you have symptoms decide if you want to come or stay homeMan oh man the hospitals are screwed|0 Your help wasnt requestedId reccomend you go and read some external sources yourself based on what i read from yoursTo further my point because of your sheep ass following chinese reports even external health experta have said the active infected cases do not make sense for sample size that big you donkeyThere is even mathematical simulations that prove these reported numbers are innacurate so i suggest taking a dose of your own medecine|0 Are all medical practices testing for the COVID19 yet I ask because I had all the symptoms and they did an influenza test and everything came up negative|0 My thoughts exactly Heres an article about how wonderful open borders are in New Zealandhttpsqzcom665322europeshouldlooktonewzealandforalessoninmigrationpolicy|1 If ever theres a time to tell the private health industry to go fuck itself that time is now|0 29 positive test on under 80 tests mean a positive test rate of 35 to 40 We arent even trying at this point|1 The issue is that here in italy our doctors arent fucking working theyre too scared of the virus Embarassing In China doctors work 14 days non stop|0 I dunno I think this virus is a pretty big fucking sign|1 Good luck to you too|1 The problem with that is that it might be interpreted by your mail carrier as meaning youre not well enough to get to your mailbox That might lead to a checkup that you dont need which diverts resources away from those who doPut the mail on hold for the time being if you dont want to collect it|0 Like I work with manly older people at a Casino in Oklahoma and people are disgusting Like people come in and will flat out tell you I have bronchitis Like wtf are you doing at a Casino around people|0 My boyfriends dad and two brothers are in France at the moment hoping they can get back to the UK today as his dad stupidly didnt take enough medication with him lol|1 Also nice tee shirtspullovers for general day to day|1 It has a 3 death rate COVID19 30x worse than any other flu and also unlike the flu theres no vaccine and we have no immunity Youre sounding like all the dumb shits on TV that got us in this mess in the first place|0 A better assumption I think is China fudged the data and places which seem to be dealing with it just did a fantastic job of stamping it out earlyChen Qiushi Fang Bin and others did a good job of showing us the reality wasnt being reported in WuhanAll those yellow body bags And now the same is happening in Italy|1 Naaah not really theyre idiots like everyone else butthey made us all kind of warily with that There is a saying in my country that even a blind chicken finds a grain sometimes and I think that is one of those cases But I hope reading this will make other people warily too becauseI never heard them saying stuff like that before or maybe I was just deaf|1 I really wish this wasnt an unpopular oppinion and people actually looked at the situation rather than believe that they are disease prevention experts in the making|1 WHO is very thankful to China for giving them this opportunity to review and reconsider the pandemic category|1 Word is ibuprofen or others which increases ACE2 activity makes things much worse if you have covid19 if you feel under the weather etc take acetaminophen paracetamol for your headache insteadEDIT for source httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslanresarticlePIIS2213260020301168fulltext|0 Death is preferable|0 Theyre is a vaccine for Ebola and there are several effective monoclonal antibodies|1 I used to do that when I worked in the kitchen I will have to dig them out My favourite creams are Badger Balm and 8 hour cream theyre both great for helping to repair cracked skin|1 0uiji reporting in with my older i7 and nvidia 960m Still runs overwatch and Skyrim at a smooth 60fps Stay well everyone|1 Wow thats crazy We literally got the opposite email yesterday saying as long as we have a doctors note for being sick or for quarantine we get our regular salary Sick for an extended period might be different but they said flat out if we have to quarantine regular salary|0 Lol republicans havent been trying to starve or shrink anything They are on an express train to growing the gov while the democrats appear to be on a rocket ship at full tilt toward the same goal Different stops along the way but same endgame addition If you dont realize that this is normal and it has been for decades that is the problem What needs to be normal is private interaction you are the first responder to anything you are at first Be that person Dont expect help from some agency Especially when that agency is made up of humans just like you with their own needs and possible sickness|0 Like thats going to happen lol|1 Generation Corona Soon enough everything will be blamed on you|0 If only the founding fathers thought of a way of bringing together states in say a union so that they could get more done in a coordinated and efficient manor|1 I dont think thats OPs point just some good news I dont think Singapore has done more than other countries as well The countrys size certainly facilitates contact tracing compared to say a bigger country|1 When I read the title after reading is it turned into a hillbilly voice instead of a swedish nurse lol|1 And this is why it will spread all over the country and kill people Our country is fucked Im so sorry|0 Im saying that its just as possible that he didnt have leukemia before the Covid infection Heres a little bit of understanding mainstream yet innovative Cancer Clinics think big like MayoDana Farber are using 1000000x measles vaccines a huge dose of the attenuated virus to cure leukemias The patient rages a fever for 45 days and sloughsoff up to 8 pounds of nonsolid tumor essentially cured Its a very simple form of immunotherapy So the same immune response that would kill measels virus in you would also kill off infected white blood cells and the body rights itself I agree the title is scary But to suggest that he died because he already had a cancer in him isnt necessarily true either Its not like they found a huge tumor or something Leukemia is a response to an infection and it could possibly have been the Covid infection that touched it off Even chronic leukemia starts as acute leukemia If he had chronic leukemia youd be able to see it hed look and act sick not be an active soccer pro Its my opinion that its more likely he died with acute leukemia sparked by Covid Now what predisposed him is really the mystery to me what in him was lurking underneath waiting to ignite|0 Viral tests They wont let you go inside the hospital without a negative result They are implementing viral tests at airports too|1 Sports concerts bars restaurants All the things we most want to do when we are not at work or at home doing nothingHospitality sports and entertainment employs a LOT of people Most of them dont make much money and the businesses which offer these things pro sports excepted are nearly all small businessesThis is going to hit us all very hard|1 Youll never know I wouldve done the same thing as you betting on the chance that she was telling the truthEdit I had 3 N95 masks left over in my personal stash I use masks when woodworking and sent them to my elderly family in Japan|1 Oh absolutely To be fair to them the Recession was awful for Canada But yes lots of Blood on lots of hands Political infighting is stupid at this point we are now here at this place where it impacts us all No more finger pointing Lets get to work and fix it|0 Whos talking about hospitals The testing center is just a place you go to to get a swab that then gets tested My doctor told me to call there but they arent answering The few months comes into play if I stay home every time one of my kids gets a cough I have a toddler and a babyNot sure if you yourself are in Germany but if not to stay home from work with a sick child and get paid I need a doctors note|1 But its ok because it only kills our nanny and grandpa Im so tired of hearing this|0 Yeah Ive looked it up a few times pretty sure its only available on Prime as a rental or on Hulu with the cinemax package Something like that|1 Fuck the CDC they should all be unemployed when all this is over|0 Well thats an interesting development on the day everybody went back to work|1 Great lets piss away a few more crucial days|1 Im scared|0 Considering the majority of countries are going the other route Id say there is more expertise on the other side at least No one has a crystal ball but it definitely seems one method is more preferred|1 This is a great idea and I looked into it and my college does have a video tutoring module I will definitely utilize this Thanks for the suggestion|1 200 people in serious condition with breathing difficulties pneumonia and not responding to flu meds or antibiotics would most definitely be noticeable Im not talking about people who decide to go to the doctor that 20 is referencing people who are so ill they require hospitalization and that means at least baseline care for viral pneumonia and potentially ARDS|1 its the white house making the cdc do it like thisLink|1 Fighting|0 Hers is slightly more severe having sore throat cough and at some point when we were tested in the ambulance fever Mine has pretty much subsided but hers is still ongoing |0 R0 of COVID19 appears to be 22 versus 13 for flu So in 14 days COVID has 63k infections while the flu has 39|0 Lol trump never puts America first Its trump first at the expense of America|1 I was thinking of saying that but I felt like it wouldnt make sense lol|1 This information has been out there an easily accessible through reputable sources The majority of people outside of this sub on Reddit are willfully ignoring it Hunker down and let those dummies suffer the consequences|0 I personally have regular contact with people in china and they are getting more relaxed about things The level of movement was restricted severely more than would be practical most places It would be silly to think that would have no effect on transmission I think it remains to be seen if the outbreak blows up again as people relax those measures|0 Also look up deep breathing exercises effective coughing huff coughing controlled coughing All good ways to help keep lungs clear or clear mucus from the lungs Tutorials can be found on COPD and CF websites|1 All of us have are own weirdness racially speaking were all human though at the end of the day|0 Oh man they might all die too Another level of public health crisis in some area where the drug issues are heavy|0 Did you read the last sentence I wrote I was apologizing lol|1 thanks after watching that channel 4 news clip with the coronavirus expert i figured maybe i should help try and make everyone fully aware especially as my age group seems to only learn through memes these days lol|1 h1n1 case fatality rate SARS R0|0 Im thinking this on the spot so there will be a lot of holes in my proposed planImpose Martial Law or something to that effectA List of approved companies can continue operation outside of home providing that permit papers are supplied this includes utilities and infrastructure as well as emergency services such as hospital police and fire services Yes we have to go that far Those 15 million face masks that our government keeps talking about will be supplied to those who have permit papers for work and will be only supplied limited amounts per day for example one to commute to work one to operate with whilst a work and one to commute home from workAll banks wave off mortgages for two weeks and rent to be suspended for those two weeks There will definitely be a backlog of legal issues from this one for sure but again thinking on the spot in terms of supplies and food either Supermarkets create a care package which customers can buy which has set amount of items lasting for two weeks eg canned food sanitation products hygiene products yes fuck your moisturiser and facial cleanser for two weeks Government provides early notice for two week lock down period Security this means police be deployed to Supermarkets to ensure shoppers are keeping the peace Supermarkets place strict policies on how many items an individual can buy Yes this will create a line but if it means double shifts for these workers why not They will get extra pay x200BThe plan is not going to be fair for everyone and it will be strict there will be a looming sense of fear if martial law is imposed and it will feel like some freedom will be taken away But if you drag this on for any longer were all going to die if not from the virus then from the economic flatline were going to haveDebate on this if you want like I said I am just thinking on the spot|1 The best way for the elderly right now to stay healthy is to stay at home and use the grocery delivery services I wish more were aware of it|1 Dont say it the mad man will go and prove it|0 I posted in a comment above but the people that will die 10 days from now are already infected Its too late to stop it from happening but we can still change how long it happens for|0 Terrible Good thing Iran the other way|0 Dear kids It will be fine There might be a lack of jobs|1 Thank you for your service|1 That is mental I had predicted D due to absences walked away with A this would fuck me up so badly if I was in school age|0 Norway will get into serious trouble if oil prices keep dropping First time I see the NOK weaker than the SEK Im praying for you guys and I hope you pray for us|1 I thank you guys so much for all the work that each and everyone of you is doing here and seriously feel grateful to have good people who care so much about the people of this worldHats off to you guys|1 Where is this 6 parameter model some of this matches pretty well with onsite data|1 The world naturally shapes itself like that Has literally nothing to do with a system and there is absolutely nothing bad about it You take what you can and some people can take more Ordinary people are ordinary because they are ordinary Not because the system failed The system owes them nothing|1 Thank you for doing this Filled it out|1 I will be doing exactly what I suggest everyone doitll just be easier for me The key is not staying inside the key is minimizing close contact with other people|1 Eh thats not a fair assessment I know China has a bad reputation for pollution but its actually doing a LOT better these days People cant also do whatever they want for money by the way The government actively keeps billionaires in line and manages housing and commodity prices A healthy market needs corrective forces right I see Chinese economy as capitalism with a government that isnt afraid to step in|1 You hit the nail right on the head Thats exactly what experts are saying Theyre also arguing even on tv whether we SHOULD be testing the asymptomatics to better contain those specific people even better Vs NOT testing them to redirect resources to the sickThats also why Lombardys healthcare which is top notch in the world is struggling right now the disease is too widespread already|1 Yup So if it gets in my workplace then Im already betting that the 6000 people that work there already have it including me Good thing theyll probably lock down the city if it actually gets that far|1 The US feels like a third world country with the way they are attempting or not to face this virus We are so behind|1 But I do know the power of stupid|0 Not that delicious McDonalds |0 update on Thailand its at 14 nowedit all in stable condition edit httpwwwkhaosodenglishcomnewscrimecourtscalamity20200128thailandreports6morecasesofcoronavirusbringingtallyto14httpwwwkhaosodenglishcomnewscrimecourtscalamity20200128thailandreports6morecasesofcoronavirusbringingtallyto14 reputable source|1 Ohio made the decision to close all k12 schools last week and they were one of the first to do so I believe New Mexico and Delaware announced the decision at about the same time At the time the total number of confirmed cases in the state could be counted on one handI just find it strange that New York and California are following the lead of interior states with much lower risk rather than leading themselvesWuhan and Milan and Seoul and then Seattle should have been the canary in the coal mine for New York but instead theyve let it get out of control|0 Wtf I love UBI now|1 The airline industry wont cease to exist Theyll go bankrupt and liquidate their assets to a new airline That airline will need pilots|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Because some people are putting themselves under quarantine even though they are most likely sick with a cold Without a doctor telling them to Thats a good thing that your doctor is doing with you Did they say for how long|0 Looks like it has passed the peak and on its way to fizzle out in the eruption zone Good signe|1 I have looked at the mortality rates Given my wifes age and other factors shes in the the worst group regardless of community|0 Thank you xx|1 Im shocked it only took a few days to improve|1 Theyll of been hand selected and told by the government to say this and say that I believe Germany and France have refused to export extra masks to us because they need them for their own citizens same with India with their medicationThey know were knee deep in shit and are desperately trying to think of anything to get them out of it but too little too late|0 Are we sure he didnt say whoa man|1 Warning Many swearsThis is a bigger problem for countries with less sustainable resources ie 3rd world countries or junk status countries Italy is a first world country A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY WITH MUCH BETTER HEALTH STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS AND SHIT Its safe to say my country South Africa is well and truly fucked when this eventually happens here too because it will with a much harder impactWe have a shitty healthcare system if we even have one corrupt politicians and a corrupt government fucking load shedding basically for very large segments of the day they turn all power off in a suburbs to conserve power or some shit because our power stations are fucked we are very prone to crime and rioting here where people lose their fucking minds over just about anything and its all fucked Fuck|0 My inner cynic thinks Abes government may be trying to engineer a national crisis to make way for a far right nationalist resurgence|0 Midsouth Pine Bluff and Fort Smith so areas about 2 hours north of our capitol city But we have Walmart HQ and a Walmart in nearly every town over 2000 people here so that means that it WILL spread Walmart doesnt even close for biblical plagues they underpay their employees so cashiers and stockers cant afford to selfquarantine and any Walmart store basically IS a large gathering of 100 people Plus everyone just panicked and ran to Walmart to stock up Our local Northwest AR region stores are almost out of bottled water hand sanitizer paper towels and toilet paper I saw a lady almost punch a dude over a bulk package of clorox saniwipes I just wanted to buy some frozen pizza man I didnt know we were going full Mad Max TVirus Day Z here And nobody is thinking about yeah but if I panic and go to Walmart with several hundred other people around to stock up on supplies to make sure I can stay at home um anyone wanna point out the potential problem here Nah Just me huh XD|1 People probably still wont give a shit|1 Not facing the obvious makes you a Trump Fan|1 Can we learn together I dont know where to start and this staying at home and gas dropping price is helping a ton|1 Let it pass You are just making it suffer|0 Yes I agree that children are less likely to die from the virus but with a death toll over 1000 I imagine that some kids are included in the dead and I was more concerned about OP catching the virus from their kid and getting sick as a result|0 Or if you have no symptoms but play basketball apparently|1 Wash your hands and face with Hibiclens kills bacteria and viruses for up to 24 hours They use this in hospitalshttpswwwamazoncomHibiclensAntimicrobialSkinCleanserHanddpB00HSLCFPCrefsr17crid2A9N3H9HEKYAZkeywordshibiclensantimicrobialskincleanserqid1583638662sprefixHibiclens2Caps2C231sr87httpswwwamazoncomHibiclensAntimicrobialSkinCleanserHanddpB00HSLCFPCrefsr17crid2A9N3H9HEKYAZkeywordshibiclensantimicrobialskincleanserqid1583638662sprefixHibiclens2Caps2C231sr87|0 It cant refer to the flu The flu is caused by influenza virus not a coronavirus Calling it China Flu is far more confusing and inaccurate than calling it the coronavirus If you have a cold no one is going to say I have coronavirus even if its technically true They just say I have a cold If you had SARS you would say I have SARS|0 I was an Area manager at Amazon for 25 years If you would like a good chance of getting hired I would go onsite directly to the staffing office From what Ive seen at 6 fulfillment centers across the US each warehouse has one You will get seen that day and be able to fill out the paperwork Dont rely on online applications right now|1 Not Op but he is a piece of shit in my bookHe fought gay marriage with tooth and nails when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires and also moved clergy men accused of pedophilia to other congregations to hide them from prosecution Truly a good man|0 Even if you waive the minimum hour requirement which basically just means you have to work a certain number of hours in the last year to be eligible the payout of EI I think will still be based on how much you made your insurable earnings|1 No offense but its never too late I have already been locked down at home mainly because I have no life but most importantly I dont have this virus nor do I want it so I favor a lockdown If its as bad as its looking Why the fuck not go ahead and do it They close public school but spring break in south padre is wide open|0 Here in Korea funeral services almost always take place at large hospitals which all have entire wingsbuildings dedicated to funeral services Family members of the deceased typically will remain physically there from morning to late evening for 23 days and sometimes 24hr straight if families are super old school to receive guests who come to give flowers cash and condolences There are also invariably rooms there for guests to eat and drink while talking to each other People tend to stay for hours Staff are there to serve food and take dirty dishes away Since funeral wings are invariably far removed from other parts of the hospital with different parking areas and different entrances my guess would be that a good service staff had been infectedHeres an article about modern Korean funeral services if anyone is interested httpmkoreabiomedcomnewsarticleViewhtmlidxno185|1 Sorry if I offended you but what I ment was if we did it in very I mean in VERY hard times then Im sure u guy can do it to As a human being it hard to watch how poor people suffer in health crisis in one of the wealthiest country in the world I have lost my mother grandmother and other close relatives to cancer I know exactly how much drugs can cost At least rest of my family is not in bankruptcy thanks to that and I know my mother got the treatment that she deserved|0 Pretty much And people are still going out to concerts and partying like its 1999|1 Native Utahn and full bernie supporter 2012 I thought this guy would be the worst thing to happen to the country if he was elected i was 11 but seeing his impeachment vote and now this im starting to actually gain some respect for him The billboards saying he should quit that showed up not long ago almost reinforce that|1 Most humble guy love him|1 I am a layman but that is my hunch too just from reading things hanging around hereIts gonna get interesting if we find out we can cure Corona Virus and Climate change in one fell swoop|1 Home sellers please support this|1 Youve become the very thing you swore to destroy|0 Theres your answer in just 9 wee words and Im in New Zealand Half a world away The whole world gives a sht about the US not wrecking yourselves for another 4 years We just hope you care enough about each other to stop voting for someone who only cares for his own ego and can barely apply fake tan well|1 There have been expirimental treatments with incredibly high doses of vitamine C in china 24g if I recall correctly with very positive outcomes There is a source for this if I find it again I will put it hereDaily intake of Vitamine D vitamine K2 greatly help to reduce the chance of acute respiratory tract infectionshttpsnewsharvardedugazettestory201702studyconfirmsvitamindprotectsagainstcoldandfluhttpswwwbmjcomcontent356bmji6583|1 No and Im not leaving my house|0 My dad told me that hell be fine its only old people who have to worry My dad is 71|0 This while the vast majority of Americans support it Based on your recent election results as I understand them I highly doubt the vast majority support universal healthcare Maybe a large portion nowhere near a vast majority|1 And everyone who responds comments on Houston but completely ignores Florida and New Orleans What about everywhere else on earth that wont reach those temphumidity levels Where I live its humid in the winter and dry in the summer and rarely gets above 80|0 Ok sure but then We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go one official said These should not be classified meetings It was unnecessaryLots of hiding going on for an administration that is claiming transparency Lets not push aside that a lot has come out about how botched the testing situation is amongst other misinformation being said by those in charge of this thing|0 This is all fine and dandy but i dont think shops will run out of food Most people wont even know they are infected|0 Lol here in the Netherlands they arent changing shit They are still going with he just wash your hands approachAlso We changed our travel advice to the northern part of Italy 17 hours after Italy had already announced they were doing the lockdown|1 Hope they get back okay keeping them in my thoughtsBut I do need to ask Why the bloody hell would they go on a cruise right now|0 I guess its easy not to feel fear when youre the assholes that everyones afraid of|1 It works but it requires sign up I reloaded and it said I have three free articles left but by the time I got to the end of the first sentence it popped up to sign up again and wouldnt let me cancel the screenNatGeo should be ashamed I understand the need to make money for your work but if you have real info about something that is affecting the world like this I would think you would want to be able to get that out to people for the sake of humanity|1 Definitely change can happen even though it may take a generation or more but there always seem to be some resistant to change There is a similar situation in Cyprus with the yearly massacre of millions of migrating songbirdshttpswwwtelegraphcouknewsworldnewseuropecyprus11885489ThebattletostopCyprusssongbirdmassacrehtml which in spite of bans and education continues because of traditionhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvetlvWRMRPRQ|0 Welcome to the parallel universe|1 Actually that is what my Costco line looks like EVERY weekend I live 40 minutes away and need to go on Tuesday when I have a doctors appointment|1 Coronavirus destroys your lungs even a young person will survive after having been hooked to a respirator for weeks and then they will have bad lungs for life|0 Wow thats crazy Glad to hear they managed to save her though We both are clearly a testament to why people shouldnt be so worried Theyre in the greatest of hands|1 On the 29th of Jan the wife called the reception of the Hotel they were staying in Rome to ask for a physician because the man had high fever the Hotel immediately allerted the National Institute for Infectious Diseases and they were taken and testedOn the 30th they were both confirmed positive the wife also had a fever and the man already had pneumonia They were declared stableOn the 31st no developmentOn the 1st of Feb the man was stable the woman had episodes of vomit and diarrhea but otherwise was okOn the 2nd of Feb the wife developed pneumoniaOn the 3rd they were stableToday see OP|1 Should have bought your toilet papper 2 weeks ago This is exactly the problem we warned you about and you only got yourself to blame for failing to take appropriate measures|0 I vote to keep the tin foil hat info to a minimum n just post actual evidence videoslinksimages with proof But once n a while a theory or two about the subject wouldnt be bad either|1 goin homeless on a gamble lol more young ppl have come out 2 vote so far this year than ever but weirdly so have boomers and the boomers r trying 2 kill us all ngl|0 I dont think the numbers in the USA are big enough to do any meaningful analysis but they do share the number of suspected cases found via contact tracing|1 awesome and creative|1 Same Arriving March 23 Amazon willing If our family of 5 takes to it I think we can reduce TP usage pretty dramatically|1 1st amendment wasnt what I was considering So I want to ask again who do you feel has jurisdiction What area is that considered|1 Thanks My hand sanatizer is with me Going to buy an other one pretty soon since its going empty|1 Roller coaster Tycoon when you reached your goal|1 Whats wrong exactly with fear mongering People washing their hands too much Buying too much toilet paper Dips in the stock marketIt think that it would be great if everyone was afraid and applying pressure to their governments to keep this shit under control Maybe that way we catch it early when it comes to our own towns|0 Haha|1 Stupids stupid stupidity looking a stupidly stupidMake it better if you dare|0 Its like Jaws We cant close the beaches its 4th of July weekendGreat how did that end|1 And enjoy your repeated quarantines I guess|1 Spanish fluThe 1918 influenza pandemic January 1918 December 1920 colloquially known as Spanish flu was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus with the second being the swine flu in 2009 It infected 500 million people around the world or about 27 of the then world population of between 18 and 19 billion including people on isolated Pacific islands and in the Arctic The death toll is estimated to have been 40 million to 50 million and possibly as high as 100 million making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemics geographic originInfectious diseases already limited life expectancy in the early 20th century but life expectancy in the United States dropped by about 12 years in the first year of the pandemic PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19aboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Yea it is definitely a possibility that either case has occurred I am not a health professional in any way so take what I say with a grain of saltFrom what I read people are most contagious right before they show symptoms and early on when symptomatic Either it is a coincidence that he interacted with 2 other people before he was sick and got it from one of them or he got sick before and was either already symptomatic or presymptomatic on Mar 6 If the second case is true then other players are very lucky they didnt get sickBased on these options I think either there was just a coincidence and the disease is more widespread in the general population or the virus is very contagious but not so contagious that a single person will get 100 people sick around them Both are pretty extreme conclusions so I dont know|0 Ehh they are not going to tell you in DFW had a nurse friend call me tonight about some healthcare workers in quarantine now near FW for over a week Same down in other areas in Texas from other Healthcare workers DFW Texas is going to hold their ground a long time till fessing up Lots of Wuhan flights were diverted to DFW airport and triaged in Las Colinas sooooooooooo yeahhh Consider all surfaces enemy territory big city big airport by the time they confirm one there will be hundreds|0 I work 2 jobs McDonalds and Ann summers Mcd would 100 say nowhich is concerning because well food is all around me Esp when I mainly work in kitchenmost staff dont even wash their hands Ive joked about corona to my boss at AS and she is slightly taking it seriouslyso she might allow it But it could panic customers etc but Im freaking out myself lol Im going to wear a mask at least we also stopped getting new items because its all from china oop|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Just tonight I was talking with a friend that makes about 120000 a year with a long term SO that works as well about his budgeting issues and not having any money Blows my mindQuick edit we live in Iowa so cost of living is super low|1 I agree with you|1 Hospital for a cold Thats a good joke there|1 It aint influenza tho wuham pnuemonua is good tho|1 armchair socialistsseems like youre aiming at the wrong ppl here|0 I think everyone knows that the police will come kick your ass or the village people will lynch you for doing something too stupid|0 Why do people like her choose to take interviews or show their faces This remind me of the comedian who bragged about escaping quarantine|1 Recessions cost lives as well It seems likely that we are about to cause one of the most severe global recessions ever seen Do you worry that the economic damage might actually be bigger than the damage of the disease|0 Employees there must be shitting themselvesIs that a symptom now|0 He travelled out of state not out of country Which freaking state did he travel to|0 How about criminal negligence has a ring to it|0 Idk I mean I was just in Seattle and things seemed fine Just avoid large crowded areas and wash your hands|0 Oh fuck off|0 eh it will probably rally for absolutely no reason and then crash again later in the weekEdit called it|0 So the answer to why we have no stockpile is that we were caught without a stockpile and china not giving us any thats bullshit|0 This explains a lot about our countryI know you are kidding|1 LMAO|1 agreedpeople here are saying fuck the economy like its something you can just turn off and come back to laterthanks to our economy we have a high standard of living and we want to maintain that as much as we can not just come back to it another time thats not how economics works|0 You have to understand nonredditors have to believe in no asymptomatic transmission mortality rates resembling the flu mild symptoms except for only some old fogies who were gonna die anyway as well as complete immunity from reinfenction with an R0 similar to the flu The reason they believe this is because this is the most existential treat to their otherwise boring and mundane and neurotic lives It distracts them from the fact that catastrophic events have happened with regular frequency throughout history shaking the foundation of the status quo and reassures them that their little bubble of comfort will never be impeded|0 That does play a part in it The fact that the president of our church is a doctor and is taking it very seriously helped to convince some of the more stubborn elements in this area I live in northeastern Nevada and there are a lot of conservatives in this area who think Trump knows what hes talking about The decision of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints to cancel all meetings worldwide brought some of them around|0 Yeah its a really tough choice but I guess when it comes to quarantine thats more affective for holding off until we get some kind of medicine that helps people get over it etc|1 Any chance of it mutating and becoming airborne|1 My kids school sent out an email that everyone needs to download an app and get familiar with it in case they cancel inperson classes and move to online only And for those who dont have internet access they somehow have plans to enlist the help of one of our public broadcast TV stations and will be giving lessons and homework on there with a hotline set up for studentsfamilies with questions on schoolwork Im quite impressed I hope more schoolsdistricts are doing this|1 Now that Covid19 is in the US lets take a moment to review why we should be taking it seriouslyLets put the risk of dying by Coronavirus in perspective since there are so many misunderstandings about its connection to the influenza virusThe CDC states that the death burden of influenza is roughly 6100045000000 infectionshttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtml The fatality percentage of influenza is 013The death burden of the Covid19 is around 2 at the momenthttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathrate but may go up as SARS did after 2003httpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective200305estimatessarsdeathratesrevisedupwardLets do some quick math to determine how much more deadly at a minimum Covid19 is compared to influenza virus00200013 153846153846At a minimum Coronavirus is 154 times deadlier than the Influenza Virus and twice as contagious Rvalue of Coronavirus is 224358 at the moment and may go higher based on incoming datahttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed32081636 and The median R value for seasonal influenza was 128 IQR 119137httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed25186370Lets stop pretending that it is the equivalent of a common cold It is a serious disease that spreads easily and sometimes without symptoms Also consider that 14 of Covid19 patients in Guangdong that recovered tested positive againhttpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasia14ofrecoveredcoronaviruspatientsinchinasguangdongtestedpositiveagain Lets also put an end to the idea that the mortality rate should go down because there are many more undiagnosed people unaccounted for By the same logic there are also many more Covid19 deaths unaccounted for And China is controlling the WHO numbers that get reportedhttpsyoutubeG5VGPYtbTk8 Despite the USA being the largest tax funder of the WHO China has significant and damaging controlhttpsyoutubeAwFTZawOc9k China is also known to severely under report deaths of even influenzahttpswwwcaixinglobalcom20190221whyarentpeopleinchinadyingoftheflu101382286html because of preexisting medical conditions or pneumonia They have been doing the same with Covid19httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3050311itspneumoniaeverybodychinaknowsaboutmanydeathswillnever The CCP is constantly changing the methods That Covid19 patients can be countedhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworld20200220confusionmountsoverchinascountingmethodscoronavirusnumbersswingwildlyitidapgerryshih China also does not even have enough Covid19 test kits to test the living let alone the deadhttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3047603wuhancoronavirushospitalsturningpeopledoctorssayhomebest so the dead are surely not being tested before being crematedhttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3050311itspneumoniaeverybodychinaknowsaboutmanydeathswillnever Some people are also suggesting that the death burden should go down because the comparatively small number of infected outside of China at the moment are dying less They are not living in an epidemic An epidemic is what causes the death burden to rise primarily due to lack of healthcare which everyone is liable to experience within countries that truly have an epidemic There are some people suggesting that the Rvalue of Covid19 should go down because after the winter season The minimum time it takes to show symptoms for Covid19 is 2 days some say 24 days And it spreads throughout that entire incubation period So you can easily pass it on without knowing that you have itContrast that with InfluenzaSymptoms can begin about 2 days but can range from 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the bodyThat means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick as well as while you are sick Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms During this time those people may still spread the virus to othershttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutdiseasespreadhtm14 days VS 224 days Which will be more likely to spreadThe mean incubation days for Covid19 is 52 days and the mean incubation of Influenza is 2 days httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusincubationperiodThats more than double the incubation time and suggests that the Rvalues for Covid19 should go higher rather than lowerNot to mention the possibility that Covid19httpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3876197 is beginning to mutate which means that you can get reinfected with a Covid19 variant even if you do beat it the first time Keep in mind that the more infections that occur the more likely a virus mutation occurs It didnt happen with SARS because there were only 8096 infections there are exponentially more Covid19 infections And it could take 6 years for development of a vaccinehttpsforumeffectivealtruismorgposts8qMDseJTE3vCFiYechowlongdoesittaketoresearchanddevelopanewvaccineen8Here are some of the things that happen to patients with Covid19 infectionshttpsyoutubeQ0A0LyMru3IHere is the full ABC QA where Wang Xining tells nonstop lies as is common in the CCPhttpswwwabcnetauqanda2020240211983216|0 This is what pisses me off about people They think countries like the UK are not doing enough to stop the spread of the virus but the thing is the only way a country can stop the spread is to completely isolate itself for the duration of the virus till it dies out elsewhere due to a vaccine or herd immunityWell we are a longggggg fucking way from herd immunity or vaccines If we isolate ourselves and impose other restrictions for that long then the economic decimation will be unlike anything weve seen outside of the world wars That will kill many people all by itself And people will fatigue of the restrictions place on them which means they will likely become less effective over time So if we are forced to loosen restrictions before the rest of the world has dealt with the pandemic either due to economic or social issues then people in the UK will be inevitably infected againSo its better to try and implement quarantine measures and restrictions right at the critical moment to reduce the exponent of the spread So instead of having 10 million people infected in a month we will have 12 million infected over 2 months for example This will reduce the burden on the healthcare system and ensure that as many people as possible will be given a hospital bed Theyre chances are better in hospital than they are left to deal with it alone Basically the government is PLANNING on having the majority of people infected so that herd immunity causes the virus to die out|0 Gut laughing tears so funny|1 This entire subreddit is a fearmongering karmawhoring circlejerk just like rBlizzard was in the Hong Kong controversy People who are not and will not be affected by the topic talking about it as if they are first responders This is the worst part of Reddit|0 Are you really that shortsighted You can always eat food that is nonperishable not having a few months supply of food is just stupid regardless of this virus|0 We also had a major event in our city in early February rKansasCityChiefs which could have increased transmission rates through drunken hugging and highfiving anyone in red Well know in a few weeks I guess|1 The US as a collection of millions of individuals is not giving a shit We arent restricting travel from korea nor to my knowledge even temping people getting off the plane Our publicly disclosed testing numbers are hot garbage pizza I live in the SF bay area and people are openmouth coughing into the crowds at the sample stations at Costco|1 Makes it much closer to the flu which is ironic|0 Lol at all the people who believed it|1 IMO masks are just like a vaccine its about herd protection If lots of people are wearing them itll be effective|1 No They are not Asian This is themhttpsktlacom20200212tarzanamanoncruiseshipquarantinedinjapanhospitalizedforcoronavirussymptomswifesays|0 Self hating people like you are the cancer of society|0 IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPS stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently especially before you eat dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneeze do not visit the elderly if you are sick if you can stay home even if youre not sickSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKIf you think you need to be testedPHONE FIRSTDo not just show up expecting to be testedDial 811 ONLY if you have recently returned from a hot area or have had contact with a known COVID19 patient|0 02 death rate Which should rattle us in itself because as people keep pointing out hundreds of thousands of people die from flu each year and the total death rate for flu is 01|0 Isolate anyway|0 This properly made me laugh |1 except Ive seen something green and smells like bleach in tap waterWhen did that start Is the water tinted slightly green or green particles|1 Its a shame you exist|0 I have a couple they install just fine but you may want to consider putting in something to reduce the pressure They can spray really hard Ones with the twist control knob are a bit easier to work with than the pull lever ones|1 Wow your brain works exactly like mine One one hand I am fascinated and thrilled by this but on the other hand I am deathly afraid for people|1 Koreas response has been appropriate at each step given the information they had at the time China covered it up and has allowed the problem to grow Im curious what additional agenda youre trying to push in your reply to my very simple statement|0 Morons|0 Mental illness is the next pandemic|0 I heard the first case on French radio mid December That was quite transparent People didnt care|0 Thats if you dont set up the ships like a proper medical facility tho You would have to set it up like a icu care facility just like you would with any building they try to convert I could be wrong tho I think the reason the ships had problems is because they didnt really bring on any medical equipment|1 People are foolish|0 Unfortunately got to bank on a vaccine|0 AbsofuckinglutelyOur societal ship has just been torpedoed and is taking on water and anyone who isnt actively bailing and patching holes is just weight that will make us sink faster After this thing is over they need to be marooned and left for dead because theres no point in gambling on their cooperation in the next crisis|0 Love it when they say the number of tests theyve conducted but omit the number of tests that were faulty Its a nice way to provide a false narrativeThanks Pence|1 Theyre not super strict the last week or two Before you couldnt say anything remotely politicalThen Trump started saying its fake And appointed Pence to control messaging I dont know if its because theres so much volume or just different mods|0 And another one collapsed httpstwittercomPDChinastatus1236298774533808128|0 Fresh vegfruit is going to be expensive especially withwhen Cali and Mexico infected|0 God bless you Be safe be well Wear the mask and scrubs no one will bother you|1 Its called a quarantine prep We are class II preppedfor real tho i have lost about 20 pounds since following this specifically because i know more than a little excess weight is a strain on the heart and lungs And the last thing I need is diabetes right on the cusp of a global insulin shortage Media keeps saying the risk is higher for those with preexisting conditions but nobody has really broken down WHICH conditions put a person at high risk|0 He donates to causes left and right You cant expect the rich to donate several billion dollars every time something comes up Believe it or not they do have limited money as well|0 works in Cnd healthcare EVREEBODY who needs a test is getting a test Many who simply think they need the test are getting a test You call public health with symptoms around here and they tell you where to go to get the test if you need a test You get a test you get a test you get a test Maybe not Joe over there with seasonal allergies Joe might not get the test But legit concerned TESTS FOR ALL in the land of milk and honey and socialized healthcare True for my area and for most other HCPs Im taking to up here|1 Stores should partner with Tech companies a bit further and fully convert to pick up only model for now or delivery Customers would be able to place their orders online Stores will be able to cap the toilet paper madness and other items that are flying off the shelf Through all this madness I worry about the people that do not have money to stockpile and are now taking away from those than can only afford to spend 30 especially if businesses will temporarily closing and folks will now live off of unemploymentI am fortunate that I work in tech and have remote capabilities but have family members that do not have that luxury and most likely will be without income for a little while|0 In St Louis and I sent 2 people home from work last night for fever and flu symptoms Their families are sick but they still came to work|0 The amount of public lying has literally hit an unprecedented amount of propaganda type lying and reminds me of living in the communist country I grew up in Also the problem is the masses actually believe this stuff so its difficult to redirect|0 That CDC page you linked to has a link that is supposed to direct users to a list of over 100 cleaning products that are effective at eliminating the CV but it deadends into a PDF of a press release announcing that the list exists httpswwwamericanchemistrycomNovelCoronavirusFightingProductsListpdf instead of actually showing the productsGiven the research httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0195670120300463 showing that benzalkonium chloride the active ingredient in nearly every consumer disinfectant wipe is basically useless against coronaviruses including SARS and MERS what should people be using for surface disinfectants|1 What if it mutates tho Doesnt that potentially invalidate immunity Like flu how every year you need a new flu injection to fight latest circulating strains Also there is the white elephant of Chinese reports of reinfection|0 httpswwwsciencealertcomdeadlyvirusesalwaysseemtostartoffwithbatshereswhytheyrepatientzerolmk if you need me to delete this comment so you can go back to pretending that everythings equal and you dont have to feel bad|0 Seriously It just goes on and on What a fucking mess|0 Well there was evidence that there were way fewer deaths in China due to the spanish flu in 1918 despite evidence it may have emerged from China|0 so if i cough at home but dont cough on the bus im good|1 Believing that its okay for a large number of your population to be on the street demanding change in policy and leadership is also absolutely ridiculous|0 A hundred bucks says this will get ignored while people will keep moaning about allegations that the CCP is manipulating statistics|0 Do they have better access to the tests or are they testing more Cause theres no way they are the only places with this many cases|1 Can you summarize what the nat geo one says I cant read it right now Ive heard all the stuff about permanent organ damage is that true Or is it only true in criticalsevere casesIm not as concerned about transient effects rather any permanent damage|0 No surprises there think the numbers are becoming meaningless Its on very much an exponential trend thats all we need to know|0 Yeah there is tons of room for error on n95s and they only block 95 anyways and last a few hours P100s are tight as shit and have a great seal and last indefinitely if you sanitize it between uses But medical workers cant wear them|0 As someone with this condition I was laughing my ass off It was a verry funny joke for someone without the condition you missed mine Wash your hands LOL LOL LOL |1 Well they need to compromise or come up with something bipartisan no poison pills|0 Youre great at connecting the dots thanks for providing these updates for us Helps clarify some of the numbers and questions I had Thank you umacgalver|1 More fear mongering bullshit 57 million people already die every year httpsourworldindataorgbirthsanddeaths|0 I do as well Too bad most Media outlets arent as informative|0 Honestly you share ove 99 of your DNA with these people and ultimately have very similar upbringings to most people in the grand scheme Its ridiculous to think anyone is ultimately all too different in how their brains function yes there is variation that seems drastic but is not in the grand scheme unless you have a major disability that heavily affects proper development The brain is essentially a pattern recognition and response machine If theyre automata then likely so are you and I But thats a whole other thing|1 I would love that to be true but I just dont see it happening If it was possible analysts would have picked up on this years agoIn todays climate they will make more than they usually would if they released directly to demand but no where near what they would make releasing to cinema You just wont get the volumes of people willing to pay full price you also cant monitor how many people are watching per purchase so they will sell their product at a lower price and at a much smaller volume|0 That is a lawsuit waiting to happen In the US at least The store should have known or reasonably should have know that some of its customers would be allergic to nuts Thankfully no one is allergic to beef jerky so they have that available as free samples a lotWell lucky for the store it is located in the netherlands and not the USWhy would the store be liable though Couldnt the person allgeric to nuts reasonably have known that it wasnt smart to put his hand in a bowl of nuts and eat them|0 There will be numerous lawsuits|0 Coffee was at the top of my list once the kids needs were covered|1 Yes Definitely email him again The CDC is advising against gatherings over 50 people Though they sort of exempt businesses you could mention this if your floor has more than 50 people or if you take public transport to get to work MA is an atwill employment state and as far as Im aware they havent put any protections against this yet which means youre best of with a good argument and doing a great job working from home They can expect things to shut down even further soon so adjusting to getting as many as possible people to work from home is a good idea anyway You might also want to offer to Skype in during the workday or to keep in touch over chat on SlackSkypeGoogle Hangouts so that you can discuss work give the sense of security that youre doing your jobIf your boss isnt convinced at all see if you can cut down on the days and hours in the office If you can work from home for three days per week thats still a bit less of a risk than five days at the office But with how things have been growing exponentially worse in the last few days I think youd be able to make a good point and get something figured out|1 Lol cdc said it wouldnt spread to USA They arent even an elected power|1 Britain also has NHS If everyone is ill at once 20 of seniors will die That is great for the National budget less pensions to pay That is the downside of herd immunity less herd|0 Wow what about the rest of the world Exclusive rights to the drug unbelievable What are the chances that a shell company of a shell company owned by Trump Inc is behind the exclusive contract offer Id say pretty good Trump lines his pockets with taxpayer dollars at every opportunity Taking advantage of a crisis situation like this is right up his alley|1 Youd like that would be standard protocol for staff on the front line right|1 Yes Thats basically what I said|1 Something like this please httpswwwshutterstockcomdevideoclip32206732technologicalredusamaprandomchaoticfigureshttpswwwshutterstockcomdevideoclip32206732technologicalredusamaprandomchaoticfigures|1 A Colonel I knew always used to say that theres 10 of assholes in every possible group So far it has always been true|0 I must say the markets are pretty sore right now I can only hope they can soar back after this pandemic though|1 See theyre smart|1 Yeah between the religious idiots and the democratic hoax idiots and the dont live in fear idiots there isnt much room for properly going about this|1 Ive always been somewhat obsessed with dystopianend of the world genres for both movies and books but this NOT how I imagined it would be like Why is everything so much cooler on tv lol|1 This may not be a reliable source Please resubmit your post with a link to an internationally recognized news organization or an recognized institutionIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 Here is the issue barring some effective quarantine 4070 of the US population will be exposed to Coronavirus over the next year The US population is 320 million people or so if 50 of the population is exposed and the death rate is 2 you are talking 32 million people dying I expect the death rate to be a bit lower but that may just be wishful thinking Also deaths will mostly be people who are either already sick old or both So the answer to your question is really a moralethical question how much effort should young and healthy people put into protecting 60 year olds I think the answer from an ethical perspective is clear but|1 Twothirds is pretty optimistic|1 Definitely not shutting schools down nationwide Might want to edit this comment|1 Click true the gfycat link next to the post for sound|1 I encourage gays to NOT come out this season|1 Confirmed cases are exactly what they mean They are cases that fit a confirmation criteria I dont see why you would consider this number unreliableI think you are confusing confirmed cases with number of infections No one claims to know the exact number of infections The government is not claiming that confirmed cases number of infections eitherThe number of confirmed cases in each country are definitely less than their total number of infected simply because its logistically impossible to actually test everyone in a country multiple times to reduce false negatives to an acceptable levelIf anything the US confirmed count is likely to be a much greater underestimate of actual infected cases than the Chinese confirmed count simply because the US testing criteria is far more stringent than the Chinese testing criteria Anyone with symptoms or has had contact with confirmed cases is subject to testing in China whereas the US restrict testing to those with symptoms AND came from China recently This by definition eliminates community transmission cases by unknown carriers|0 Yep Most of it will be gone in 48 hours and by five days its likely clean The 12 day viability was in lab conditions designed to keep it alive as long as possible Still two weeks would be a good abundance of caution|1 No When it started they tested you if you had symptoms and had been in a high risk area country It had to be both Now even that has stopped|0 Would be great it we could get those gamers to donate a little bit of their power to foldinghome Helping to find cures right now is super high priority Every bit of computing time helps Foldingathomeorg|1 World The universe just confirmed every inhabited planet is infectedWHO but what abput alternate timelines now is not a time for rash actions|1 But I was told masks dont protect you and medical personal needs them|0 Delivery man cough and sneeze droplets on hand Proceeds to deliver mail 3 neighborhoods and 2 apartment complexes all infectedThis shit is scary and mentally draining|0 What the market wants is greater certainty and to get any of that right now we need some leadershipBingo Thats why the biggest stock gamble youll be able to make on your life time is the day before the next US electionIf its a democrat either Bernie or Biden youll see the markets sore If Trump wins again welcome to the Great Depression 20 but with Facebook|1 I got a temp ban for sending too many friend requests in a 24 hour period a long time ago after getting hooked to Criminal Case on there a game where you can sendreceive more Energy from each friend on your friend list who also plays the game allowing you to play more each day I joined a fb group specifically made for people to friend one another so they could get as much Energy as possible from this game daily So I sent requests to maybe 100 people in the group all on one day and that was too many apparently lol|1 I just bought a bunch of masks at my local Home Depot and the clerk checking out was saying that people are watching the news too much theyre paranoid and even said we all have to die sometime For real lady I told her watching the news probably has the opposite effect seeing as how its extremely unlikely that China is accurately reporting the numbers Not even talking about the conspiracy theories of theyre burning tens of thousands of bodies on the outskirts of Wuhan but that we know theyre doing things to screw with the numbers and it is very unlikely that theyre honestly reporting whats happening and they have 100 million people quarantined She hadnt thought of this perspective before but still seemed to think it was silly to be buying N95 masks and P100 respirators For someone who interacts with the public all day I sure hope she starts taking it a little more seriously and washes her hands a lot|1 My girlfriend handles baggage at the Toronto airport I think she will request temporary leave |0 Im concerned cos Im in renal failure no dialysis yet have other conditions like asthma but not panicking|1 Natural disasters such as this one have nothing to do with justice|1 3 hours in the air sounds scary|0 No heroes wear capes Fantasy movies arent real life|1 I wish I could get tested but I live in America|1 There are hundreds of medical experts writing to the PM advising him that his approach is dangerous but I doubt hes going to listen Also doesnt herd immunity only apply when everyone is vaccinated|0 I have some vague recollection of this as well but no exacts Here is the wiki article It doesnt mention material aid but I dont think that means it never happened IMOhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiReactionstothe2008SichuanearthquakeHeres some info about italian boots on the ground httpswwwdevexcomnewssichuanafterthequakesettingupafieldhospital29446 On May 18 the first two Italian cargos arrived in Chengdu carrying aid as well as medical personnel to set up a field hospital funded by the Italian government The field hospital donated by the Italian government was what is called an advanced medical post and had three sections an emergency room an operating room and a diagnosis room AMPs are meant to treat victims in the earliest phases of an emergency before they are transferred to larger hospitalsDont see the modern hospital thing quite yet More infohttpswwwnytimescom20080516worldasia16chinahtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20080520worldasia20citizenshtmlhttpsnewsunorgenstory200805260142chinaunstepsaideffortsvictimsdeadlyquake|0 yepjust like HIV |1 Or at least a policy of quarantine of everyone flying from China Its a hard choice to stop your own people from going back home but once home from the plane to a quarantine zone|0 Inhaling smoke is bad for your lungs periodNow of course the other chemicals in cigarettes are worse but smoking anything is going to be bad for your lungs|0 Not like 14 days is enough either but outside China its the gold standard for some reason|0 Sounds like legit uncle intel|1 My first award Thank you kind stranger|1 Another one of Trumps inefficient and lying lacky|0 Great idea Our local shelter had to close to the public for now and is looking for emergency foster pet parents Rescue Village in Northern Ohio Thats probably the case in a lot of places Very sad people arent allowed to visit and adopt at the moment Also if you have any extra supplies or blankets they still need donations and you may still drop them off|1 They ran out of krabby patties 2 weeks ago anyway along with masks and hand sanitizer|1 Youre keeping us more wellinformed than the entire media complex in Canada Thank you|1 If there arent enough US touristsexpats to fill flights there wont be flights offered by the commercial airlinesGonna have to deploy C130s or something to rescue American stranded|1 I know Thats why Im saying this sub is worse People on this sub seem like theyre melting down over this outbreak|0 Some of the automatic water faucets dont even stay on 20 seconds People stop washing when the water stops|0 Good news is while kids can carry it there hasnt been a single death to kids under 10|1 great news and this article just made me crave taco bell P|1 Looks like corona played a joke back|1 Fuck the party Nothing but corrupt bootlicking dirtballs|0 Youre not an alarmist youre a realist since a few hours after my post we were informed of changes essentially because the mentioned conference yeah it was transfered to another timethank fck for smart ppl Also it so happened yesterday in our briefing that the virus came up and everybody was like oh its another flu oh they cancelled my kids trip oh it only kills elderly and vulnerable wth people they have no ideaTake precautions stay safe |0 He had to hand over the reigns to his VP as soon as we went into crisis mode lol I cant think of a single President in the history of the USA that had to do that|1 Smh same Im actually shitting myself with the thought of it|0 Whoops they changed the labels in the data source Now theres UK and United Kingdom and they appear as separate labels|1 Youre crazy if you think there was ever a chance to contain this virus Go ahead and blame any politicians you want but its obvious youre just looking for a scapegoat|0 when does this start is it effective immediately|1 Fuck I live here|0 He clearly says Corona|1 Im in rural Pennsylvania and the hand sanitizer is sold out here even though there are no confirmed cases nearby Hate to think how things will go once it encroaches closer|0 Ive been practicing being hungry and surviving the last few months by being poor Time to put all that practice to use|0 Well if someone can direct me to the Nostradamus Quatrain referencing that one Ill give up being a sceptic|0 nah|0 Its not because of alarmist im not saying anything that couldnt happen Sixteen complete genomic sequences with available clinical histories during the SARS outbreak were analyzed After careful examination of multiplesequence alignment 114 single nucleotide variations were identified To minimize the effects of sequencing errors and additional mutations during the cell culture three strategies were applied to estimate the mutation rate by 1 using the closely related sequences as background controls 2 adjusting the divergence time for cell culture or 3 using the common variants only The mutation rate in the SARSCoV genome was estimated to be 080 238 103 nucleotide substitution per site per year which is in the same order of magnitude as other RNA viruses The nonsynonymous and synonymous substitution rates were estimated to be 116 330 103 and 167 467 103 per site per year respectively The most recent common ancestor of the 16 sequences was inferred to be present as early as the spring of 2002 Thats from SARSand ncov19 shares atleast 80 genomic similarity thats why this new virus is now called SARSCoV2 the disease is COVID19 And in this same page httpsnextstrainorgncovhttpsnextstrainorgncov you could see some aminoacid and nucleotid mutations have been detected the virus has been circulating for atleast 3 months mutations can still happen|1 Thank goodnessfor now|1 Thank you |1 What a fucking power move I love him|1 They are also being paid faster than us Whats your point Its like asking why the sun is warm|1 I am finding that some folks do not care about that It is upsetting when you have talked about how severe something can be for some people etc and they reach the conclusion itll be mild for me im gonna go out|0 Since they cant control the virus just control the figures Maybe with enough propaganda even the virus can be brainwashed into believing that it is not as powerful as the CCP|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Its OK we have double standards Just because we are an asshole government doesnt mean you can be one too|1 My god shut the fuck up|0 No he did not The timeline is February 26th First day of CPAC February 28th Cruz interacts with a specific individual at CPAC February 29th Last day of CPAC March 3rd Cruz speaks to Santiago Abascal for 20 minutes at his DC office and shakes hands March 8th The CPAC attendee Cruz interacted with on February 28th tests positive for COVID19 March 9th Cruz goes into selfquarantinehttpswwwcnncom20200308politicstedcruzcoronaviruscpacindexhtml due to the CPAC interaction 14 days from that interaction will be March 13th March 12th Santiago Abascal tests positive for COVID19 March 13th This story of Cruzs extension of his selfquarantine March 17th 14 days will have passed since Cruzs interaction with Abascal|1 Right so if anything this would be a great way to test for ADE if theres that many extra antibodies then ADE could be confirmed if they were dropping dead instead of recovering|0 Perhaps if the CDC didnt have a long history of lying nor a long history of placing government interest over individual interest then more people would listen to their advice|1 NSAIDS are never good for your body at large Theyre ragged af on your kidneys on the best days Not just reading that from the label on the bottle discussed in detail with multiple doctors They said acetaminophen anytime its feasible over ibuprofen|1 Seems the same way around me I havent been out only to the grocery store But most of the people I have on Snapchat were posting stories of them partying last night|1 The antimask hate is just going to get worse with all those billboards everywhere|0 Thats a dunning kruger reply if Ive ever seen oneIf youre not actually as dumb as you seem right now read thishttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdf|1 I criticized Chinas response a lot but tbh China handled it far better than the pathetic impotent responses were seeing in France and the US right now|0 My moms wedding is in May I expressed my concerns to my sister and just received a phone call from my mom and she was acting childish and just mocked everything I said when I answered the phone hello hello whats up Whats up Whats going on Whats going on Anddddd I hung up and then bitch buttoned my own mother of whom I thought I had a great relationship with Looks like Im getting disowned when I dont show up that call sealed the deal for me I wouldnt want to go regardless of a virus now The hubris is astounding|1 Spanish flu of 1918 killed 1 in ten people affected I saw aTed talk where the scie fist said everyi that got the u I Its Seco d was e died 100 percent kill rate|0 hope you feel better and everything works out for you|1 Its already been proven that not testing leaves you blind and is more dangerous|0 Want me to start with the Ying Yang and Chi|1 The real problem is that the buybacks werent considered bad business behavior The only bad behavior is not making more money than last quarter|1 Hes in jail only because he ripped off people richer than he was|1 That sounds like the exact opposite of every drs visit Ive had Usually they just want you out of the office|1 Nobel Peace Prize kind of thing|1 I dont know if Ive ever wanted to be in Ohio as someone who has never been to Ohio more than right now when its one of the few states here taking this seriously|0 It sure is the world is gonna look a whole lot different for those who make it to the other side of this mess|0 If he is mentally ill someone from his town said he was crazy the guards are cheaper than putting him in a hospital and less contagious as well I dont know I am just speculating|0 I agree it was poorly written but my reading is definitely number 2Have there even been any Wuhan repatriation flights since Feb 7th If no theyre all out of quarantine now unless confirmed infected|0 There were no TorontoGTA cases in the 1030 update For sure a chunk of cases were missing|0 I like Brazil too|1 I totally agree with you I got my hopes up when Daniel Koch said the rest of switzerland would eventually do the same but since they said that they wouldnt put the rest of switzerland under the state of emergency yet i cant stop shaking my head|1 I love how all you people act like individuals just have the time and money to self isolate immediately and indefinitely|1 You are in denial There isnt going to be any major outbreak you are stuck in this subreddit which is an echo chamber for your own fear mongering Open your eyes its just a more infectious form of the flu for Gods sake You could catch it and be better in a week unless you are an infant or an elderly person or a unhygienic person|0 Let me know next weekend if I am wrong|0 Yes 8h of sunlight reliably kill every pathogen known to men They use it by having clear but contaminated water in PET bottles in the sun Very safe to drink after one sunny or 3 cloudy days|1 The more we go further the more Italians disappoint me Its just so irresponsible and not only from these 2 but from the whole part of population that doesnt give a shit about this situation Its depressing really|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 fuck that wall swab everyone|0 more testing should be done to alleviate the panic it will show that the death rate has been seriously overestimated|0 The N95 masks are so uncomfortable to wear and very difficult to breathe in lol Ive been fit tested and when they are worn correctly I could barely keep it on for 10 minutes I couldnt imagine wearing one for an entire shift Id pass out from lack of oxygen |0 Yet another drawback of forprofit healthcare Also the valve costs that much to cover the RD regulatory compliance costs and yes profit The costs to actually make the part is probably small|1 I said that haha dissolve salt into water and soak the middle bandana in it Itll wick moisture and kill virus Salt is known to kill viruses by drying them out like slugs|0 I thought it would go a bit far to call america a 4th world country Dbut yes that was my point|1 It sounded like a wet cough theyll be fine|1 Its infuriating how ppl just keep telling people to stay home for 2 weeks if they feel sick Like yeah in a perfect world everyone could do that For most folks a dew days never mind 2 weeks of no money is the difference between making rent and being able to by food|0 Id like to see the day the US actually protecting someone instead of killing civilians for oil and other interests|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 So stupid My country is doing it too |0 Were telling them now but I think its way too late We went on Amazon today only to find out that they are out of the most important shit Fortunately we started stocking up 3 weeks ago oh so we have enough for at least three months|0 The only acceptable link you have posted there is the third one The first one is based o nthe assumption that herd immunity is the end goal of the UK plan which has since been called out as nonsense by all senior officialsThe second one isnt worth the paper its written on 250 or so scientists that are actually a smattering of mathematicians and statistics students with a small amount of professors of unrelated topics in amongst it Also almost all of them from the one universityHeres one of them being shown up on radio httpstwittercomLBCstatus1239219846199619584httpstwittercomLBCstatus1239219846199619584|0 Dont worry about people traveling to China since the travel ban has been effective for 1 month Take care my friend and avoid been public It seems the virus has been infectious for all races|1 the korean sect doctrine claims that being sick is a sign of insufficient religiuosity so everyone had to hide being sick|0 For me the greatest shock is the striking difference between the apparel used by chinese medical staff and what we have seen in the US so farEven back in January when the Wuhan videos started coming out they looked like aliens covered from head to toes and double face mask meanwhile over here some gloves a surgical mask that does nothing and some disposable apparel to cover part of their own clothes|1 Im a teacher and having listened to Our Glorious Leader the other day realised well be staying open until late May Theyll use the summer months when the virus is at its peak to do the shut down Schools are Corona factories and are the ideal place to spread the virus amongst the populous Not 100 comfortable with being the country that gambles with the herd imunity theory Im interested to see if schools can actually manage to stay open if the majority of staff are selfisolating Heck who am I kidding were glorified babysitters Of course they will|1 Bullshit or bullfacts httpsstaythefuckhomecom|0 It cant explain why they cant delay for just one single day for the testing kits Its not reasonable I remember thats the day they replaced mayor of Wuhan|1 How is this downvoted Thats what we all should be hoping forAlthough its most likely not going to happen|1 It doesnt matter the CCP will be buried in the ash heap of history along with the Nazis and Soviets and the true China will rise and take its proper place in the community of man|1 corona is also going to take care of the boomer problem though|1 Brilliant comment|1 He is a natural organizer He says he is not a leader but he is Thanks for posting this|1 Just a marketing term that make you feel better REI still expect their employees to sell memberships|1 To translate for those of us who are not scientists are you asking if the measles mumps or rubella vaccines are a partial match to coronavirus thereby giving the immune system a head start Meaning that any protective effect could be something more than a general offtarget effect edit moved side note to its own comment|1 Except youre all armed to the teeth with automatic weapons Its going to be so much worse|0 I saw that religious store selling alcohol gel at 60 a bottle Its definitely not going to be good in the US I mean the governments only response is another tax cut for corporations|1 Thats fascinating It does seem that it would be a much less definitive test though As the article says multiple times normally this would be interpreted just as pneumonia Great article and it outlines clearly how coronavirus can be distinguished from regular pneumonia using scans but it seems clear that there would be some challenges in implementing this protocol|1 I have a friend who always wants to eat inside the fast food restaurant and when I tell him Id rather not he acts like IM the weird one|1 Cancel 2020|0 Many kids didnt decide to fly home They were kicked off the campus My state school gave them 4 days notice to evacuate with no return date in sight Where else do you expect them to go|0 I hope so Because then its just the same story of recovered patients testing positive later with no evidence of being infectious People are missing the key fact that RTPCR cannot differentiate between infectious virus and dead virus|0 Yes|1 Its so refreshing to see a leader look at their country and do the right thing to protect it Thanks for sharing|1 Ya the reaction would be much more urgent if they lost a major city to a nuke rather than across the board to an invisible enemy|0 Definite time to check and update all old watchlists from before Nov 2016 Some only 50 of my fave healthcare industry stocks from back then have shot up The others that didnt I just deleted Makes me want to learn lots more about small cap biologics and financial metrics Check out free learning at various broker websites This is more a todo list for me but thought I would share|1 How are you considered nonessential Dont many patients need your help to be able to discharge I guess you could call them on their hospital phones and work from home|1 230ish samples were taken 102 tested so far with 20 infected yesterday 30 tested 10 infected|0 I just accepted and switched to the cheeseburger Oh well There are bigger problems to worry about now Mike|0 This also indicates no cases in Texas which is wrong isnt it|0 Give it another month I have said this all along I honestly think the actual fatality rate in China was 10 million and they covered it up It is the only place in the world that could have done so Why else do you build that many crematoriums and ban online funeral notices|0 Ok Thats it Like right now whats should he be doing that is not a state responsibility|1 Thank you This is priceless|1 Nice|1 50 or possibly more of America has a different view than you on that as well|1 Good news is on the way A miracle drug called Remdesivir is undergoing Phase III trials as we speak They should be completed in a couple of weeks or so with a fast track to FDA approval for coronavirus treatment It was developed for Ebola and already proven safe for humansThis means there is a treatment protocol The one drawback is it is given via drip once a day over ten days But this means there is a cure for serious cases While it is not a vaccine if by wild chance you get a serious case you will be cured and on your way to back to enjoying life and feeling the sun on your faceThat is a good thing Keep Calm and Live Life|1 At least one other health screener at LAX previously tested positive for the virus The DHS said on Wednesday that a federal contractor may have been exposed while conducting medical screenings at the airport Damn|1 Generic Mucinex guaifenisinFever reducer ibuprofen and TylenolBasic multivitamin and additional vitamin CI probably should get something like Gatorade or Pedialyte Might look for a powdered version to save money and keep a larger stock than I can with bottles|1 Yes|1 Hydrogen peroxide on a microfiber cloth works well a few times a day |1 Japan doesnt want to fuck up their summer olympics Its no secret theyre not actively testing but at this point we all know its everywhere And Japans tourism industry is largely driven by Chinese visitors|0 God bless this childOm shanti to the souls of the deceased Victims of Corona Virus and may their souls attain Moksha Those who are currently in treatment for the Corona Virus may God bless all of them and cure them|1 This is great thank you for that contribution Very good post I like your logic and pray it bears outThe doubling of cases overnight in Italy would sync with what the preprint journal article suggests yes|1 I also live in Mexico and I can tell you you shouldnt panicMexico may be hidden cases like other countries but I still think the situation is not that bad than other countries We are still on stage 1 Where most of cases are for people that traveled to China or EuropeLater in April I will travel to Cancun which is a very touristic place I care about my health but I still see that situation here is not that bad I dont underestimate the disease but I dont panic|1 The virus would be dead by then|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Chinas active case rate is declining They are restarting factories They have hordes of empty hospital beds now that were previously full|1 Sadly vacation is over and I need to get home |0 I would guess numbers are more accurate outside of Wuhan but Wuhan itself is in such dissary and local officials were lying to cover their buts that at this point its impossible to get an accurate data given the state of things|0 Might be good to take a break bro|1 if there are any complications it can destroy your life httpskhnorgnewsbillofthemonthmanfaintsafterflushotgetsstuckwith4700hospitalbillhttpskhnorgnewsbillofthemonthmanfaintsafterflushotgetsstuckwith4700hospitalbill|0 Yeah I have no idea why everyone outside Germany thinks this place is some sort of paradise I am German too and often just find it weird|1 Ho pianto anche io tutto questo straziante I cried as well this is heartbreaking |0 Could you imagine if the flu just yearly knockedout 1100 or whatever less than implies of the population Honestly I dont understand how some people swallow some of these numbers from talking points and think yea that about addsup|1 Adding a source and not including overall context emphasized by that source is still inappropriate Thats an autoremoval wording not quite as applicable to your case As another commenter pointed out pulling from that paper that the CFR is a flat 14 based on a cohort is disingenuous Especially when the implication is that that mortality is applicable elsewhereIf you have to go to the hospital youre at a high risk of dying is not only completely speculative but contradicted by the source you providedAlso I can literally promise you the CDC and WHO know how to calculate mortality|0 1 in 500 for a 23 year old with no pre existing health conditionsGonna need a source for that Not saying youre wrong just quite surprised its that high|1 India only has 3 cases my ass|0 You have no idea what you are talking aboutChinese plan worked because they essentially blocked off a gigantic city with very little regional infection outside of itIn the US there are multiple clusters of regional infection and you expect quarantining New Rochelle will accomplish something|0 Maybe a better way to put it is that theyre really deep in the tribalism mind set and theyre transferring that way of thinking to this crisis They take the presidents word as gospel and they stop listening once theyve heard what they want So they think itll all blow over by April that the mortality rate is super low and that theyre not at any real risk Oh and since the numbers are low in the US it must mean it isnt that bad it couldnt possibly be because testing has been lackingSorry its hard not to make this sound super political when their response has been in that same realm of thinking This shouldnt be political I dont want it to be It bugs the hell out of me that it has just been added to the pile of tribalistic BS here in the states and now I cant talk to them about it without it turning into conservative Boomer vs liberal millennial|0 Yes you can httpsboincberkeleyeduwikiInstallingBOINConUbuntuIm running it on my headless ubuntu server|1 Thats the point people are missing Sick leave or not the contagious incubation period is whats frightening Doesnt matter if everyone can stay home if theyre sick people dont know theyre sick for a week while theyre spreading it|0 Expect at least a year of disruption There will be waves of infections until there is a vaccine|0 7 out of 12 had pneumonia Not good|0 There is really no need to panic COUGHS UP BLOOD it is just the fl BEGINS TO SHAKE VIOLENTLY keep wa froths at mouth|0 Well if you dont really have a choice then you are kinda forced or made to do something I dont think anyone would want to be in that situation but if you dont have a choice you do the best you can with what you have And I 100 agree they are real life heros|1 Cool Why you here then How old are you btw|1 Its true that its overused But its also true|1 Theyre threatening to strike because they want the HK government to close the border to China Considering how SARS went I dont blame them And China is barricading a dozen cities so that should tell you how serious they think its|0 My family is in Albany right near Saratoga Its only a matter of days before it spreads there and Im so scared for them|0 Im a fat dude with Type A bloodthank god Im not pregnant|1 Damn I didnt think there was anyone left on Reddit who actually had reason But you and the other dude give me hope Maybe because I lost 150K and my industry in 2008 that I also believe the reaction is a bit disproportionate We get flamed for being heartless but those who post look at it as paid spring break are the reasonable ones The mean age of a redditor is roughly 24 so they were basically a teenager in 2008 They may have seen their parents struggle but they have no idea what is potentially coming|0 Agee They wont open for months once they are shut Quarantine is a lot longer than the reddit mind thinks Ive seen people suggest 2 weeks and all will be fine I despair|0 wow looking at the numbers is one thing but this is just unreal|1 Its so hard to know whats going on tbh Ive seen reports Wuhan got it bad because of some inter party CCP thing and the residents were vaccinated so they got it bad Seems the strain in Wuhan was more virulent as for many of us it will be just like the flu Other reports are that the CFR is 10 Im sure its come from the lab Im pretty much 100 about that Though what the hell is going on I really dont know If it was here till spring and disappeared It wouldnt surprise me If we had this all year and it wiped half of us out It wouldnt surprise me So much mess around this the only option is to prepare and hopefully we dont need it and look like fear mongers|0 Yes better The more we start using real terms the more laymen do tooAnd since the Norovirus outbreak back in 2017 many more people say that instead of the stomach fluUsing real terms works and reduces confusion|1 Im shocked at the deaths more than the cases Fuck This shits getting real|0 Except it also ignores asymptomatic people|0 Same here Tested negative for everything here is two shots of antibiotics and some scripts and an inhaler Carry on Oh and your lungs are in pretty bad shape Thanks for that No follow up or advice or anything Nope|0 Right Insomnia reddit is not a good combination for coherence Sorry fo4|0 So the start of this past week started off ok Not a lot of people were taking it seriously because we only had one case Then 2 Then when they announced the Jazz issue and people started to take it serious But in my area what set things off was when our Governor set more boundaries for our state and the SAME DAY The LDS church announced their major closure No church no activities NOTHING Religious or not thats a major deal and it sent a lot of people into a major panicIm in a smaller town of Utah so I expected stores to be packed But not like this I know a LOT of places are having toilet paper wars but here its literally EVERYTHING off the shelves Milk cereal bread canned food pretty much all gone The stores are flocking to stock shelves and anytime Ive driven passed the stores in my area doesnt matter the time its packed and still insane All school districts in the entire state are shut down for 2 weeks A lot of people are starting to work from home But it was announced today that we are dealing with our first community spread and its only a matter of timePersonally Im not scared of the virus for ME I am prone to bronchitis and pneumonia Im just annoyed of the disruption of life ya know But I worry as I have a parent and inlaws higher risk but we are going to be smart about it and quarantine ourselves properly Im disgusted by how people in my area with how certain ones are fighting over this instead of working togetherOur mayor had to sent out a statement reminding people to be mindful over how much supplies and food they are hoarding because not everyone has the ability to get what they need at the store My family has a few things but we still need basic necessities that people are going insane over I guess the other outlook of this is we are literally in the middle of a historical event with things that Ive never witnessed going on at the same time that will be in books My family is trying to find any light we can through this while it continues to get worseIm happy to share more details as time goes on if anyone is interested|0 Im very interested to hear parents opinions on this In my class Im anticipating at least 5 kids withdrawn tomorrow based on past attendance and family situations|1 I dont have anything nice to say about the left coast But I will post a factual observation You are lab rats by your own hand You dont have border protection in any form by design and by choice The rest is a foregone conclusion|1 Yup Boris has decided that avoiding a hiccup in the economy is more important than 1000s of lives|0 It is controversial that it is airborne most studies showed that it is not but in any case it is treated as airborne for caution|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 The president dismantled our pandemic response team in 2018 That why were as far back as we are Also the president decided to decline an offer for a quick roll out of testing because he was afraid it would affect his ability to get reelected I think you have the answer how this got so bad|0 And they have struggled for years to make any kind of vaccine for all the SARS related illnesses|0 Any idea how much people under the age of 30have died|0 When the growth curve aka the rate of increase becomes 11 from the previous day its the first indication that were at the top of the slope See also this youtube video httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKas0tIxDvrghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvKas0tIxDvrg|1 But American citizens can fly Like we can hop right over get infected and come right backIts not anything to protect us|0 Thank you|1 No one cares here in NH even doctors are saying Flu is worse nothing to worry about especially Dartmouth Hitchcock whos employee broke quarantine and spread it I stopped going to gym and people are telling me I am crazy which in itself is crazy because this is serious and we need to take action|0 So far in Zhejiang province over half have already recovered and none have died That is radically different from the picture in Hubei|1 Fatalities guess looking good cases nowhere near|0 You can totally see the growth rate sneaking in|1 So we now have new data gathered here in the NHS We cant keep people who have had symptoms gotten better had tests go from positive to negative We cant isolate and quarantine Im definitely everyone who gets it All we can do is monitor them for reoccurance The range of incubation time is 214 days with a possible outlier of 24 days But that doesnt necessarily mean sick people will stay sick for 14 days If they are lucky they may show symptoms quick recover well and be healthy within that time|1 There are a lot of empty factories in the US that could be used Wonder why|0 Its a shame that people with G6PD deficiency wont be able to take this medication Around 5 of people of Mediterranean Middle Eastern African and Southeast Asian descent have it|0 In other news water is wet and the sky is blue Im really happy to see someone with so much clout behind them say it publically for the amazing number of people in denial out there|1 No case no test 412 total tests for the nation|0 Cause that would be good for everyone right now A revolt on top of an outbreak|1 Just an example to showcase why people dislike him Also it relates to the virus Not exactly irrelevant|0 Im a frequent user of shit tickets both literally and vocally but I thank you for the introduction to piss chisel what an absolute belter|0 Anyone can get the virus Everyone has ACE2 receptors Another coronavirus that binds to those receptors started in a baby in the Netherlands before so literally anyone can get it Also the virus came from animals Why the hell would a virus from animals be able to transmit to only one human ethnicity|0 Theyre trying to get out in front of legislative efforts that could build momentum for a permanent requirement that companies provide paid sick leave Right now I believe the Dems are floating paid sick leave legislation to address coronavirus concerns However once that gains support it could easily result in additional legislation that will make it a permanent change Walmart is trying to show theyre willing to do the right thing absent being forced by legislation so that theyll be able to go right back to giving employees nothing once this is all over|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 I would actually love a two week quarantine at home Buuut I work for a small local business and wont get paid for it Itd be ideal if I had an emergency fund to cover all that but hey I dont I only have about one weeks pay saved right now and who knows how long wed all need to be quarantinedLuckily my boss was talking about closing the store to the public and just doing online sales So Id still be able to work just not around the public which would be much much better Hopefully that happens sooner rather than later thoughCompanies who have the option of letting people work from home and are not though thats pretty messed up|1 Yeah for sure I had gotten over a cold but then this weekend I started my spring cleaning because the weather was amazing So much dust lol Plus we had a light winter so we still have dry leafs around and stuff So Ive been extra coughy the last couple nights First was worried the cold was coming back or it was something new but it just allergies from cleaning I hope|1 Damn worst than bats being caged up Thanks for sharing pls stay safe Dont die to a bat|1 Once it reaches his voters I would not be surprised if he is thrown out within 4 months|0 I cried watching that film and I dont cry watching movies Brilliant but sad movie|0 i had wanted to buy dry eggs from Amazon because i cannot find them in storesbut i decided no a while backthen i heard about the postman and got scared of the mailyou have a good method|0 Nah it would be too sensible to close schools Children dont get sick s|1 I didnt think Trump could go any lower He literally tweeted Its just the flu bro THIS MORNINGThe Feds arent going to help us here No one is coming to save us Were going to be on our ownIf its anything like Italy well have overwhelmed ICUs and have to fight this at home I posted this already but heres a list of meds and stuff to get before its too late httpsnemosbasecampcomcoronavirusoutbreakthingstobuybeforepanicbreaksouthttpsnemosbasecampcomcoronavirusoutbreakthingstobuybeforepanicbreaksout|0 Yall the Tijuana River dumps 3 million gallons of raw sewage a day into the Pacific Ocean Your comments remind me of this fact|0 And they know they lost colleagues I cant even imagine|0 exactly thats what im saying too i think that the government should be the quickest accurate most reliable update source why am i learning out about 12 new cases from a The Guardian instead of our governments official websites ridiculous imo|0 Or Amazon could just makeless profit|1 2m is enough to protect you But yes people need to stay away from gyms They need to stay at home Not even visit their relatives In fact visiting your relatives now is the worst thing you can dostaythefuckhome|1 Im in the at risk group But because its not being enforced my mum still keeps asking me to go to the shops for her She just thinks Im over reacting Ive almost got through to her by sarcastically joking about her life insurance and wills I dont know how else to get through to her|0 You are doing good work Making an impact for sure Sending my appreciations from down under|1 Great advice what exactly are you credentials other than being a troll|1 How bout figure it the fuck out How bout eat some rice lose some weight leave How bout you just fucking do something proactive rather than bitch about your situation No one is evicting you fool|0 The circuit breaker actually uses the SP 500 index which was closed at 1111And just to nitpick the 13 threshold actually stops applying after 325pm|0 Regardless your alveoli sp Will start moving again after 4cor so days after quitting Thats gotta be a leg up if you get infected|0 I havent personally played it since that first summer but I know theyve added trading raid battles and expanded it to I think ALL the Pokemon now Maybe not the latest gen Lots of quality of life updates too|0 Its definitely true The task force has said 2 days in a row that Florida is an outbreak location and yet we have done absolutely nothing|1 In germany you can call an ambulance to basicalyl anywhere and they are there withing minutes even the most remote location I ever was here there would arrive within the hour so if you self isolate and develop symptoms before you can get tested and those would quicken withing hours you can call an ambulance and they will come to you and get you to the hospital|0 Id say something but then Id get banned from here just like I got banned from politics|0 Lol|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 But were fine Were all going to be okay eyeroll|1 Nobody will care in six months Look up the history of Volkswagen Warning you may start to rage anytime you see someone driving one httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiVolkswagen|0 It doesnt The worst part about that little decision is that a lot of people have decided to postpone social distancing buying some extra food getting ready to WFH etc until an announcement that will never come Instead of drawing off a little at a time they put the panic into one big bucket that is going to spill one day pretty soon|1 Hes a great guy He fed the Abacos and Freeport after the Hurricane last yearEdit In the Bahamas|1 Plus the government should be taking masks and sanitizer before they even leave the factory dock Amazon shouldnt be getting any to give back|1 Ironically it was democrats pandering and having civil discussion to a group of sociopaths who refused to see reason that led to Trump having 4 years in the first place Theres a time and place to show respect to people when they have earned it by returning the good faith you shown to them And good faith is not choosing to defend and apologize for a conspiracy theorist whos peddling quack cures to desperate people during a pandemic You cant demean and chastise someone into changing their views youre reinforcing them you dolt If being nice worked Nazi Germany would have never happened at all See history exists for a reason Radical pacifists like you were the next biggest contributing factor to Nazis themselves in creating the Holocaust But have fun tone policing instead of standing up for what is truly right PS The point was never to change their views That was always impossible short of demographic shiftsie the extremist demographic dying out It is to ridicule and demean a group of sociopaths whose actions rightfully earned them that treatment|1 I feel like this administration is fucked Which is what it gets for taking it so lightly|0 Good for families that have 5 kids|1 and that Taiwan will have 1000 cases after CNY Still 18 cases it also will be on contradiction with what the Taiwan HK American French Australian WHO Chinese etc have said about the mutate nature possibility of the coronavirus Im gonna wait for a real source on it|0 Pretty upsetting that this is being down voted so muchIn the cities with large ChineseAmerican populations A LOT of them have very few ties to the mainland because they have been here for generations thats how the big Chinatowns form By being there for generations My girlfriend traveled from Queens New York to Manhattan New York to have New Year dinner with family Relatives from as far as New Jersey visited None of those areas are particularly close to WuhanMeanwhile another friend who is white has just been keeping quiet about his recent trip to China and thats all it takes to avoid any questions He likely doesnt have it based on timing and specific location but you wouldnt have known that if you didnt ask If the idea here is to ask just in case then the safest approach is to ask everyone Why go through the trouble of sounding like a jerk to every Asian you meet just to end up catching it because you assumed a nonAsian couldnt have it|1 Well he also thought 3040 million masks was impressive|1 Thats very interesting Someone should have told china|1 Well then get off reddit lol Im sure there are plenty of places for conspiracy theorists to thrive|1 The bodies are not in fact dead people httpstwittercomguiteijastatus1220826528294023172s21|1 sorry not a great time for travel|0 Lol my man Thanks for the reminder Been on a pc since the late 80s Ran a 4 node bbs I was a child then Im 38 as of now I miss those days Really I still have my copy of wildcat 420 multinode Desqview Windows 311 still wrapped in plastic from the factory I setup a vm machine with desqview Then went to os2 warp Loaded the bbs up and a few doors It was a fun day of reliving Only to fall short due to nobody else playing on the doors or bbs I miss it dearly fuckdepression|1 The love how Bars was the first item the mentionedHere is 300 a day to drinkOpen the WiFi and I am all set|1 They got better around here In Albany New York they even leave the side door open for Uber drivers to come in All night long but up north where I am Its different The lobby closes at 12 so I go home then Cuz the drivethru lanes are good 2030 minutes|1 I always forget there are 350000000 guns out there in a powder keg If there ever was going to be a spark this is it I always supported militarizing the police to match it regardless of the unpopularity and consequences of that My local police are well armed and the county has a couple of serious heavy duty call up teams they deploy there are regional national guard units close if it comes to it|1 if we go into complete lockdown quarantine mode now we might be able to slow its spread and prevent the hospitals from reaching critical limit|0 Corona has evolved insanity without using any DNA points|0 Well vino whats best for our health|1 Personally I want to be crushed to death between the legs of a Russian spy like in that one bond movie Im down for this anytime it might be possible Hello Russia Putin you suck |0 Thats good to hear Too bad in my town everyone thinks nothing is happening I saw an ice cream store open up for the season and there were lot of people lined up|0 httpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoiabs101002jmv25700The virus is very stable as far as viruses go|1 Well apparently its a 206 178 fine and up to three months in prisonhttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthitalyredzonediarylockdownadayinthelifeofateacherinitalyscoronavirusredzoneidUSKCN20I2A5 I guess theyre playing catch up|1 Nice|1 It basically that in South Korea Anyone can track where a tested positive person has been which has led to many scandals like oh grandma supposed to be at home collecting stipends but shes out and about in restaurants Or the husband went on a business trip with a young female coworker Privacy is a huge issue happening in South Korea now|1 This is the biggest issue Many jobs cant be done remotely Someone has to stock those shelves My husband is an Emt so even if i work from home Im still going to be exposed most likely|0 Looking for a new job while under quarantine sounds promising|1 Doesnt matter treat her like trash while explaining why shes wrong Die hard trumpers love someone talking to them like theyre idiots|0 Its more like boomers left the deficit for their kids but now the industrial conglomerate that THEY created has spawned a virus that is really only life threatening against them Seriously these sick people should be silenced and have their internet taken away|0 Hopefully there arent any modern day speakeasies that start up|1 As a Chinese the first thing that came to mind is that he got silenced Rest In Peace|1 There was also a article about 96 hours in phone surfaces and some crazy facts about how many times a person picks up there phone and touch there faces Google glass sounds pretty good about now|1 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Tucker warned his audience long before the other mainstream media companies did|0 Shits fucked|0 Can you explain why they wouldnt treat everyone who has ARDS with antivirals Its not a clinical trial for the antivirals|0 They absolutely did not shut the city ASAP They knew about it in December hid it destroyed samples arrested doctors permitted a banquet let millions disperse and THEN locked it down Big difference|0 You know what they say wealth before health|1 Will we all die No But some will and with that the mitigation of death by spreading awareness and information should be on the forefront of everyones minds|0 Too late US already dominates the world and has its citizens armed legally s|1 Nobody knows anything for sure other than the fact this virus tends to take its time|1 This is not the right time for that pieces of infected body parts would fly all over the place|0 Its been 11 days so Gaetz is likely not a carrier though its possible But he was on Air Force 1 with Trump today before they realized he might have been exposed which shows they clearly have no idea what theyre doing|1 I live in Palm Beach Fl and clean grills and build outdoor kitchens for a living for rich people They love traveling and I have to go to 2 of their houses a day Im nervous to say the least Theres been a couple cases just south of us and its actually well within the radius of our traveling perimeter|1 Yeah I heard most of their software engineers dont even make more than 150k per year usually with less than 10 RSUs And now their stock is tanking this is going to hit them hard|1 Ah I hope it comes back negative and if it does come back positive I hope you have a smooth recovery|1 US funding so far8 billion initially50 billion more requested42 billion unlocked from national emergencyFor a total of 100 billionMore will follow as this progresses The US is about 23 weeks behind ItalyWhat is your source that Italy is doubling that So far I have seen the EU giving them 25 billion euros Italy putting out 86 billion for economic relief not for medical relief and the IMF issuing 50 billion for ALL affected countries so Italy will get a portion of that but so will a bunch of other countries|1 My heart honestly breaks for the Chinese in Wuhan right now No one deserves this|1 Im 63 and Im staying home But I feel like I dont want to mention it to anyone or theyll think Im nuts I have a board meeting next week but am planning to say I need to call in for it rather than be there in personIm thinking in another 2 weeks It wont be weird that Im isolating myself I live in a rural community|1 Unfortunately Im the main earner in my house My husband got made redundant just before Xmas and has been struggling to find new work My mother is to old and sick to work She is disabled and also has copd Im her main carer when not at work I did have a second part time job trying to start up my own business but that involved touching lots of people so Iv given that up for the time being so now only have my main job income to support us and her tiny state pension So now I do what I can to protect myself and family while still going to work But thank you Was hoping that was an offer then X|1 The drive through testing centers are a much better solution over all I think A door to door service by a properly equipped individual or team is another less efficient optionMost other options involve going to a public or semipublic place unexpectedly and asking for a test from a likely unprepared individualAmbulances are the typical way a controlled entry into a medical environment would be done Especially in highly active probable casesSomething that should have some thought put into it and quickly In terms of drawing conclusions we are a bit late to the party as a nation Many have been in here or one of the prereorganization forums since the China response began and were quite critical as China fumbled its way through the early stages watching early reports We then watched the US make many of the same mistakesWhatever decisions are made we should realize we are dealing with a highly aggressive opponent and need to be respectful of the danger it represents and treat sampling accordingly Better to overestimate than underestimate in this situation|1 Minus 10 social credit score for you|1 The moron couldnt even color the US flag correctly and you want him in a middle school health class Psh|0 All the experts are saying it wont be ready for 18 months|0 Keep them out of public if possible wear masks whenever possible wash hands very frequently and if not possible use hand sanitizer Change clothes outside the house Most important is isolation|0 Awww are you offendedGood to know that wet markets fake building materials and spitting and pooping in the street are all objective measures of advancementMaybe you should be more offended for those things than whether or not someone uses your politically correct flavor of the weekOr is that too hard|0 Yep and India|1 Im concluding that CDC is waiting for the virus to be widespread and then announce its here go on with your livesUS govt only cares about the economy and stock market|1 Isnt it kinda odd that nations like South Korea and Vietnam have been able to develop accurate tests that cost as little as 034 each and deploy enough to test 4000 people a day all in the same time period that the USA has only managed to make 500 tests for our entire nation at a cost of 3000 eachPretty much every nation on the planet including 3rd world shitholes like Nigeria have been able to create and deploy tests without a single issuebut for some reason the USA just cant get its shit together By all accounts its because they dont have to report the numbers if there is not test available to confirm the infection The CDC is playing a political game here gambling on the fact that they think the US healthcare system is so good we can just prevent deaths as it spreads without actually needing to keep track of the numbers|1 Of course it made perfect sense at the time But in hindsight we will see if the Chinese were not better equipped at dealing with this|1 Pretty sure that should automatically qualify as a global pandemic|1 organize working force turns of two weeks then two weeks quarantine production will slow but wont stop lots people can also work from home we need organization|1 Its OK China already won|1 Friendly reminder that those Canadians cross the border between BC and Washington by the thousands each day|1 I worry so much more about my Toddlers than for myself You cant just tell a toddler to stop licking everything because of covid19 and expect them to actually stop being toddlers|0 welp while the number of cases is different the patterns in SK and in China look pretty similarChina had a constant growth since 2301 up to somewhere like 1502 than the speed slowed down a lot due to measures taken no doubt SK had constant growth since 2002 till now even without locking down whole regions iirc only Daegu is sort of quarantined there but not as stricktly as Wuhanso something like 2030 days till the epidemy slowslooks quite promising tbh|1 As a foster parent I would get in trouble for it|0 I trust reddit to get any scalpers prosecuted|1 This article didnt age well|0 Im in a similar boatmy grandparents are 90 and live in China and my cousininlaw is from Wuhan If it werent so relatively close to my family itd be a different story in terms of my interest in this issue|1 I work with an asshole who is still not taking it seriously I am going to call in sick next week in hopes that we get a lockdown soon so I have no choice but to stay home|0 I am an Italian living away from home and what she wrote sincerely moved me Translation of her instagram post Im no pro but I did my best Im a nurse and in this situation I am facing this sanitary emergency I too am scared but not of going buying groceries I am scared of going to work I am scared my mask is not sticking properly or that I touched it with dirty gloves by mistake or maybe that lenses do not fully cover my eyes and something goes through I am physically exhausted because personal protective equipment hurts my body the white coat makes you sweat and after I dress myself I cant go to the bathroom or even drink for 6 hours Im psychologically tired and just like me also all my coworkers which have been working in this situation for weeks But this will not prevent us from doing our job as we have always done I will keep curing and caring after my patients because I am proud and in love with my job What I am now asking to whoever is reading is not to make this effort vain Please be altruistic and stay home so that you can protect those who are weak We young people are not immune to the coronavirus we can get sick too or even worse we can make others get the virus I dont have the luxury of going home in quarantine I have to go to work and do my part You do yours I beg you|0 Thats half the average daily attendance at Disneyland Who fucking cares about a stupid marathon when 20 miles away Disneyland is hosting twice that every single day and just a few miles away universal studios is doing the same And concert hall are holding concerts daily|0 The stereotype is that most americans know nothing about the world Imagine if more people was paying attention to whats happening in the world|0 This is why I dont trust the government |0 Thank you i am 53 into this one so Im going to let it run its course ill be good to just click change identity to put in the new team number afterwards right|1 I totally agree with this Put them in professional run quarantine facility Leaving them on that ship seems like a disaster in the making I do wonder however the nationalities of those on board I think its a Japan based ship so probably 75 Japanese This make more likely take all off for quarantine But what if like half Chinese or something Just saying but no love lost for Chinese by Japanese Would not be surprised if they took off Japanese nationals for quarantine in Yokohama and left all other nationals on ship for a survival of fittest Not really but I am curious about Makeup of nationalities|1 Better than nothing|1 In all fairness the cats were filthy and had fleas too lol At the time at least Just a different era I think the point is that science wise once we learn it we shouldnt unlearn it Yeah we arent as stupid as we used to be but what mistakes are WE making NOW Gaurantee theres plenty that will be made fun of centuries from now in the same way|1 And people keep their distance when you wear underpants on your head in public double risk reduction|0 What I like is how suddenly it becomes clear which politicians around the world are able do their job well and which ones cantSingapore Taiwan South Korea all managed to stop the spread via different methods in reasonable short timeEurope and US dont look great right now and Im not very hopeful for AustraliaMy guess is that New Zealand wins this at the moment|1 Hat er schon auf FB Natrlich wars ein Kettenbrief mit lauter Bldsinn|0 Most Chinese approve of the government It looks like you know a lot of China Then you must know that most people in China dont have the luxury of criticizing the government publicly right And you must understand why Chinese people always making fun of the word right|1 People focus on the big number right up till the moment theyre being told THEIR odds When I went through cancer all I heard from people was how its a good cancer because it has a 90 five year survival rate I sure as fuck wasnt thrilled with those odds|0 In the small downtown area near me I get surrounded by people in groups playing Its mostly teenagers but there are quite a few adults Just about every weekday night and weekends|1 Good luck|1 Hell hold out longer than the pope|0 fucking piece of shit|0 Its just a novelty mask Im sure it worked at one point|1 The lab they would be moved to and company they would work for is owned at least in part by Jared and Ivanka The vaccine could be patented by the company and take all the profits Also trump would take all the praise for saving the world Because when the world is in the midst of a pandemic his thought process is How do I make money off this|1 Dont tell Reddit that I thought Orange man was bad not good|0 Sad times for us all this is not nice cant believe this is happening honestly no matter where it is|0 Crafty strategy on getting tested Glad you are on the mend Thank yiu fir your update|1 If we cant remember Chernobyl and why communism is bad COVID19 should do the trick|0 Theres no counter argument What youre describing is beyond even the wildest movie scenario Youre telling us that every single human being on earth will be infected with a virus that hasnt even infected everyone in the city it started in and likely wont You dont have to be a virologist to understand that preventative measures and human immunity will have some effect It may not be fully effective But the idea that even half of humanity will acquire it doesnt hold up to scrutinyReally hope youre right but just look closely at prediction and compare with actual numbers we have so far it has been working nearly like atomic clock|0 Theres already a bunch of videos of mfs fighting in grocery stores over stuff|0 I am so sorry you are sick I think thousands of people in ATL are sick The lack of test kits lower Georgias coronavirus numbers of sick people Please let us know what happens to you|0 Replace Mexico with the US it still holds Amazing|1 What is the correct way Should the person putting it on be the only person to touch it With freshly washed hands I assume Honestly curious|1 Its not about you dude its about protecting the larger society and being a cool guy cause we live amongst each other and should better our communities|1 This is a very obvious and easy solution which has been successfully done elsewhere in Europe Not just NHS staff but police etc at well I guess Their case for keeping all British schools open makes no sense other than if you think they are still trying to achieve herd immunity and only intend to flatten the curve with interventions many weeks into the outbreak which we now know will kill enormous numbers of people|0 Please let me showupload my ID online somehow when buying alcohol instead of showing it directly to the driver|1 There are multiple things to prep for govt quarantines public panic overwhelmed health care system getting the virus and attempting to avoid getting the virus Giving up on the last one doesnt make the other ones go away|1 Most larger grocery stores and Dollar Tree carry shelf stable milk You can also use powdered or evaporated milk mixed with water|1 The other countries are the types that are falling apart anyways Iran on a normal Tuesday is on the brink of collapse This is just a tipping point event for them The Ayatollah is hanging on by a thread|0 We have 3 in Cleveland and theres more in Kentucky today too not sure why its not updated|0 Yeah we are all fucked Worrying about the stock market and the economy at this point is insane|0 Leave a review on glassdoor We should all know to avoid this company when this is all said and done|0 GameStop are going to hold out for another year or two the console launches are huge business|1 They just closed for two weeks and will pay their employees|0 Good news here You dont say mortality is 100 were fucked doomed and everyone will die Downvoted|0 Even the Mob seems friendly during lock down|1 Yes a little but the sword of Damocles will fall and then they will freak Not that I will relish this|0 keep a close eye on yourself and if anything changes let the Doctor know I think you are ok for now based on what you have said If you have any trouble breathing or an increasing fever then you need to act quickly|0 And my axe|0 I work in midtown Manhattan We have several employees who work in the adjacent towns and word from senior management is that we will proceed as usual Absolutely shameful considering several senior management members live in those adjacent towns|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 True but the scientists here think that almost everyone will get it anywayAdd to that the huge difference in mortality between age groupsAnd the result is that we might as well let the young and healthy contract it in order to protect the sick and elderly And the economy because this is a comparatively cheap method Dont close anything Just isolate the sick and elderly DoneVia herd immunity even though the Swedish authorities dont really want to use that word The Brits do though|1 What is the motive to fake this|0 You forgot the s lol|1 Burundi is an unindustrialized country where the median age is 17 and diseases like malaria and typhoid fever are endemic While this is unfortunate the Government of Burundi is not expected to be particularly concerned about a respiratory infection particularly lethal to older people which few Burundians areCanada is not in anywhere comparable of a situation and so we have to hold ourselves to a much higher standard that of Italy Germany 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Yes|1 Given how run down Christmas Island is how are they going to isolate each person so that they arent crossinfected|0 Definitely Hes clearly going to get symptoms soon maybe the test doesnt show up as positive till you get symptoms So maybe thats why they wanna wait Regardless hes gonna get it soon and theyll test him then and itll be positive Just a matter of time|1 Also for anyone else feeling this way head over to rCOVID19support|1 Haha my pleasure when I saw him pull the face I was like I need this The world needs this|1 Ive got nothing against the Mayo Clinic and that wasnt necessarily the point Point was this needs to be coordinated through the federal government so we are using one or two reliable tests and not competing tests which may have different procedures that make it difficult to harmonize|1 100k UPVOTE PARTY|1 Thanks for this man Your right Ill give this a go too Smoking for 16 years Ive wanted to quit for so long and this is a good reason to quit|1 That sure helps cut back on transmission|1 Ah That would have sown me right up in the winter Damn housemates always have one who is tight on those last few degrees|0 A little bit of overconfidence a little bit of navet I little bit of willful ignorance and a big dose of bureaucracy|0 Canada just had an infected person after they travelled to Vegas|0 Im supposed to have a brother on September around there this is bad man|0 It is sobering to see these numbers yet most Americans seem to not head the writing on the walls and continue on like nothing is wrong|1 Just wash your hands broYou dont need a mask broYoull just get a cold broBro BroBro dead|0 Exactly People are cheering on the Governor of this town but they dont realise that his town hogged twothirds of the test kits and swabs used so far while people in other parts of Italy are having trouble getting tested Im not saying that the decision was bad at the time or that the data isnt useful But now it turns out that most likely the disease started in January and the apparent Patient One in this town is not the first the virus was already in many parts of Italy So people in other parts of Italy understandably are unhappy about the special treatment that this town got And now the policy for the whole country is that only sick people can get tested theyve given up on testing asymptomatic contacts because there are just too many So if your coworker gets sick you cant get tested yourself until you feel sick|0 800 attorneys Living the dream|1 You might want to check out pilates the guy that started it survived the 1918 flu in a internment camp its all breathing deep when you do the movementswhich are supposed to be done slow at your pace It might help you build strength back up over time|1 We dont know the full extent of longterm health effects that could impact even young patients with mild cases eg kidney lung nervous system and testicle damage|0 This Two weeks ago i read that we have to give two weeks because of the incubation perioid Two weeks later and i read these same texts Yeah but remember the incubation perioid and they even know that some people have 24 days But they forgot that most of the people get sick in 37 days and we should already have a LOT of sick people all over europe|0 Because of the way we teach children about America It starts early by teaching kids patriotic songs and starting every school day with a culty circle jerk to the flag while reciting our loyalty to itin unison of course Then when theyre a bit older and learning history Columbus is portrayed as a hero the fact that the founding fathers were slave owners is overlooked and we spend the most time learning about the wars we won not lost We are taught about how amazing the Constitution is and about how its so good other countries modeled their own after ours We were taught that racism was basically solved after the Civil Rights Movement We are not taught or encouraged to learn a foreign language until high school and we are not taught the metric system So we tend to think were the center of the world and wonder why everyone doesnt speak English by default and convert to our batshit method of measuring things Theres a lot of emphasis on being the greatest nation and how lucky you are to have the privilege and honor of living here When youre a kid and you have no context of the horrors of this country you believe it Particularly if you are white andor middle class and up because youre not directly experiencing neglect from the governmentculture Though constitutionally our right to criticize America is protected its generally frowned upon and sparks a heated debate about nonsense and the troops As an American fuck AmericaEdit First gold Thank you |1 Exactly A month ago they were saying to be sure to buy N95 masks Then suddenly masks wont prevent you from getting the virus From DO to DONT almost overnight I suspect that they realized that with only 40Million masks in the US ALL of those need to be reserved for healthcare workers 1st responders utility workers etc The nonchalantness of the response on a National level makes me think that they know this is not containable and are managing panic and not the virus I hope Im wrong I hope when this has passed that Ill be able to say that I over reacted instead of I told you so|0 They do not Youre just only accustomed to what men in your country and little corner of society look like and youre ignorant to everything else|1 Maybe if people like yourself speculated on what the data meant others wouldnt feel the need to themselves|1 This is the first year Ive ever experienced seasonal allergies It started last month with wateryitchy eyes and some congestion in the last couple weeks its been a sore throat and irritation Not necessarily the same symptoms as you but allergy season also must be aggressive this year because Ive never had a reaction in my life until now Take care and be safe|1 Its like watching a train wreck in slow motion|0 Why are you liable for the damage|0 I understand that you think producing masks is in any way shape or form so complicated that the richest coutry in the world cannot produce them in THREE months but I respectfully disagree with your opinion In fact whoever is sitting on the chair of governance of the richest country in the world and cannot produce something as vital important as a face mask as matter of national security then that person and all those cabinet members should resign and let someone sit there who can handle such simple tasks In fact I promise you if you give all the money and power of the US government at my disposal I will give you MASKS in less than 5 days It is just unaccetable to say that Oh you know plastic masks are complicated they need polishing etc we couldnt produce in 3 months time so we just gonna go out and tell our people that masks dont work and let them get sick die X|1 hooray|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Thank you too every one counts|1 Im staying home from sixth form today On top of there being cases in my neighbourhood I have severe OCD and kids in my class are pretending to cough and be sick to freak people out I cant get anything done in this environment and Id rather limit my risk of both getting ill or having a mental collapse|0 Ive been wearing one at work xray tech and absolutely no one around the hospital is wearing one I definitely get judgemental looks every day And its the same thing at my local grocery store I went not because I needed anything but wanted some extra eggs and milk Absolutely no one was wearing a mask Funny enough I heard someone say in an upset tone everyone is acting like its the end of the world she didnt realize that she was also part of the problem|0 Its not helpful same way with limiting to 50 people or less thing most places seem to be doing Like the time and less amount of people isnt going to stop spreading something that more than likely already everywhere and spreading But its about money thats it Like sure these measurements would had helped before it arrived but its already here and no one really knows the real numbers There are probably plenty of people who have it and are completely unaware of it|0 Stoners dont do nothing people who want to do nothing get stoned|0 What are the symptoms of COVID19Some people infected with the virus have no symptoms When the virus does cause symptoms common ones include low grade fever body aches coughing nasal congestion runny nose and sore throat However COVID19 can occasionally cause more severe symptoms like high fever severe cough and shortness of breath which often indicates pneumoniahttpswwwhealthharvardedudiseasesandconditionscoronavirusresourcecenterEmphasis addedRespiratory viral symptoms arent cut and dry Symptoms can vary widely between individuals|0 Fort Desoto is a gem Amazing to think that is what most beach areas looked like before all the massive development I wish more beaches were kept protected from development as statenational parks I went waterfront camping for the first time there last week and it is amazing 40 a night gets you a waterfront campsite that is a 8 minute drive from the beach|1 Which a Canadian producer is hoping to run trials with Interestingly its made commercially in a similar process to Vitamin C thanks to the help of a fungus|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Youve done this huge analysis based on CFR without considering the most cogent and cautionary advice to come out of the WHO report from the team on the ground in China the CFR skyrockets when ICU beds are not available It doesnt matter if 2 or even 0 before that if many cases will die without critical care then that care is suddenly no longer availableThe CFR is a step function that depends mostly on availability of health care The WHO report emphasized China was able to staunch the deaths by sending in legions of health care workers from every city in the country I am in China watched this episode unfold and know people in the medical field every hospital pretty much sent a certain portion of their doctors overThey could only do that because at the time they locked down Wuhan they enacted severe measures all across the nation It wasnt quarantine but there was no reason to go out because nothing was open so everyone stayed in side Even the parks were taped off Literally the only reason to go out was to buy groceries or to walk aimlessly along mostly empty streets while being stopped at random points for temperature checksThey rightly realized you can only shift all the resources from a billion population to a single city if the outbreak isnt allowed to spread all over the placeSo given what the WHO China team shared your cost benefit analysis should be incorporate the likelihood of hospitals becoming overwhelmed and the CFR if this happensHospitals area already at full capacity because of an unusually bad flu season They are in an extremely fragile state Combined of the glimpses we have had of what this disease looks like without intensive medical intervention for the bad cases it is a very very dire situationIt would be a great tragedy if the US has to create another Wuhan before taking the necessary measures which incidentally doesnt have to be quarantine but just what China did outside Wuhan eliminate any nonessential opportunity for interaction|0 Right lol fuck that I dont trust them one bit|0 This has been stated many times you cant compare deaths to deadorrecoveredIhavenoidea Example a nasty cancer with 90 mortality and average 12 months from diagnose to death You have one new parent every month After 10 months you have 10 diagnosed patients and the first patient just died You claim that the death ratio is 110 because you have 1 death and 10 cases You are incredibly wrong and statistically 8 of 9 remaining patients will die We have no idea what the death ratio for this virus is but you cant calculate it as 1064535 because its an equivalent of calculating 110 in the above cancer example You have no idea how many of stillsick patients will die On the other hand we know that at least 641 of the first wave of patients died They have been infected long enough ago for that stats to make sense But you cant mix patients who we know the outcome for died or recovered and patients who were just diagnosed today in a single stat|0 Just follow the directions on the bottle You wont OD if you do that And dont drink alcohol with it Tylenol is actually quite safe if you follow the dosing guidelines|1 The most interesting thing is how the govt of US and Iran two nations so different who absolutely hate each other have responded in the same manner to Corona Both govts downplayed the virus and the spread misled the public havent tested everyone and think simply praying will help solve everything|1 If any tissue of our body goes through severe injury for long enough sometimes the healing capacity is overwhelmed and regular cells just cant repopulate all of the damaged areas Instead scar tissue sets in Tough fibrous tissue Like you see from large surgical scars So if that is in the lung not only does this mean a part of the lung can no longer exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide but it also sometimes means that the lung cant expand to levels it used to I have a teeny tiny area on my x ray that my doctor told me was from an old infection It healed in a way that my diaphragm got stuck to my lung and now puckers a little Google tenting peak lung x ray to see what I mean Mine is tiny so doesnt bother me at all but I imagine if the damage was worse it would be noticeable|0 Smart move for insurance companies|1 Relax prepping is good for the just in case scenario You can relax because you have done all you could do for yourself If you get the virus think positive you will receive the help you need If you die you must remember we will all die eventually its part of being a human Yes you may be able to delay death but there is a time when you can not Remember everyone and their mother is writing about COVID19 ie BS conspiracies facts and halftruths Walk away from it and enjoy life Feel the sunshine have a coffee talk to friends in short get out of the house and away from pressing issues Humans always bounce back just like the stock market|1 Im betting everyone in this thread has no idea how economics work|0 is anyone testing the penguins though lol|1 US rates of infection probably going to grow super rapidly could see this changing ifwhen things get wilder there|1 Lets just hope that bthry develop VA treatments for Covid19 soon enough to soften the impact On the other hand I hope this entire ordeal will be a wakeup call to make governings and society in general realize that we should never be too complacent and believe that our system is infallible|1 With all due respect the number one thing the CDC could do is test people for SARSCoV2|1 I will be messaging you in 6 days on 20200322 174815 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003222017481520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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34000 Say 100 If noone has nCoV then its very unlikely that the illness is due to it in the others|0 Or you work at Frito lay and its apparently just as important for people to have chips as it is for them to have hospitals|1 Did I say the chances were zero No just not likely We have no idea what interactions these individuals had Perhaps she coughed once into her hand and then went around shaking hands or passing food They spent considerable time together which increases the chances of infection|1 I program it and use it just like an ArduinoSadly I have no idea what that entails as I have never done it Wow Nice info Is there a Subreddit for this stuffThanks for your detailed reply Cheers|1 30 days will turn into months and months due to their lack of lockdown early on|0 Bad arithmetic|0 Then the usa has to also get punished for tlall the wars it has caused and thousands of dead people Also the us and uk should be punished for not acting early |0 Italys run out of hospital beds and has had to turn away heart attack and stroke victims but Im sure that happens every flu season|0 Im sure the virus will respect his personal space then|1 It has the ability to mutate each time it jumps to a new host so there will be quite a few versions running around This is why reducing the number of infected is so important otherwise it can mutate and keep recirculating like the seasonal flu|1 Nah its positively out of control in the US and they barely know it because of the deeply limited testingWe do enough testing here that when we become like Italy well know itNot that Italy couldnt happen anywhere unexpectedly its just that the US fumbled the ball ten times in the past month and now theyre behind 28 to zero So well be catching it from the US and well see it happening because we actually test people We might very well have our own little Italy thing going here all on its own but itll be quickly dwarfed by whats imported from the US imho |1 Note that the twostrains paper is controversial httpsmobiletwittercomOscarMacLean1status1235308064263331840Though I dont think the underlying concern about possible mutation and differentiation is invalid|0 Thats good to hear|1 Im certain its in Huntsville With the amount of people who travel in and out for business and pleasure using both the Huntsville and Nashville airports theres no way its not here|1 Did you watch the video where the guy was saying they took the ship out to sea to make fresh waterOh buddy|1 Thats why this is so dangerous Symptoms range from none to death and its highly infectious|0 Aha And I see the alcohol is illegal except for nonMuslims in Iran since 1979 so theyve been at this for a whileA public health approach to alcohol use and its related harms in IranhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslanpubarticlePIIS2468266719300386fulltext|0 Lol I think a lot of people would rather cut their nuts off than admit they need help from China|1 Dont doubt the failure of testing But it DID hit a nursing home and they probably werent aware what it waswhich allowed the virus just to fester there over a couple weeks Definitely an early skew of the numbers But I expect many lawsuits at that center|1 Certain government website is STILL saying risk is low|0 I wonder if that also explains why the pediatric cases that do occurhttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoi101002ppul24718 commonly involve coinfection and usually show high PCT levels high procalcitonin levels suggests either tissue injury or bacterial infection|0 Is the bad part where you die or where you pay into a system you dont benefit from|0 Theres nothing inherently wrong with it But peer review acts as a gatekeeper to bad research Especially if a paper is making sensational claims anything not peer reviewed should be taken with a grain of salt|0 Just hold the kiss a little too long You only have to do it the one time|1 I actually think we need to be panicking more Due to the lack of real leadership and clear messaging looking at you President Trump we have a huge amount of the population that is not taking it seriously think it is a flu thinks it doesnt really apply to them We should be ahead of this self isolating at least the CDC has finally started to suggest that for higher risk and treating it like the scary thing that it is If we do that now we might be able to flatten the curve But then the economy|0 Oh please Almost every county in New York has at least one confirmed case Its already here|1 The EVS folks where I am are amazing and I make sure to give them a shoutout whenever I can They save lives every day by not just cleaning but disinfecting to prevent the spread of infections while also being in a truly thankless trench war|1 They pass down to a lower age bracket who are more likely to just dump them for whatever they can get|0 and they have been fora decade Fuck|0 Seriously what is his problem|0 Pretty shocked at how few tests Scotland have run on people so far its probably brewing away under the surface just like Italy|1 yeah really disapointing big juxtaposition between the people who think its serious and the ones who dont|1 Yes most symptoms actually come from the inflammatory response not the actual virus causing damage|0 Would you like me to donate the equivalent of that based of my income Because Ill gladly donat a haypenny sir |1 An executive order and cut funding from the president cripples the CDC from taking action Decisons are at the discretion of the VP Hmph|0 I used to have anxiety when I was young than I discovered stoicism and started practicing itI realized like anything in life you have to put in a tremendous amount of effort to get what you wantIf you want to be free from anxiety I highly suggest reading stoic philosophy and practice it with tremendous discipline and tenacity Truly put in the effort and your anxiety will decrease dramaticallyThe issue with the modern human is we believe that were entitled to some magic cure for our mental illnesses when in harsh reality the truth is that most of them can be cured by putting in extreme effort and discipline Most modern humans are threatened by the concept of extreme effort and disciplineI assure you if you make stoicism essentially your religion and practice it harder than youve ever practiced something your anxiety will go awayOr you can get a prescription for a benzodiazepine and be a drugged out zombie never attacking the root cause of your ailmentJust my 02rstoicism|1 Reminder to those blaming Chinese for eating exotic meats the US consumes squirrel ostrich alligator beaver even goddamn deer liver parasitesThe definition of exotic meat is cultural not set in stone|0 I wish I did so I could prayYou can pray friend|1 Why is Italy being hit so hard Does it have to do with the way Italians greet each other by kissing cheeks|1 JanuaryFebruary I believed china was covering it up Now I dont Maybe they were initially when they thought they could stop it from getting out of controlwhich I think any country would do firstChina is one of the few countries that can take measures like they didChina dealt with the SARS outbreak leaving them with previous experience in this type of areaChina literally welded metal bars to lock people into their homesChina cut Wuhan off entirely blocking roadways and tunnels filling them with dirtChina naturally has a higher capacity to take care of more people when you have around 13b populationChina was able to build makeshift hospitals in DAYSChina was able to get production of mask to millionsdayIf China was in such bad shape I dont think they would be sending TWICE the amount of supplies and aid they received from Italy Japan SK Apples and oranges China is NOT to be compared to countries that cant do shit like China canat one time they tested the entire city of Wuhan in a week Supposedly to help trace the infection To help the quarantineThe measures China took are out of reach for most countriesThose numbers are probably not 100 accurate but I think they have this under control out of anyone else on this planet especially considering the magnitude it wasTitle of this thread makes me laughComparing CHINA TO EUROPE lmao|1 Looks like plague inc app is based on Pandemic or done by same people|1 I mean look at all those people we would have sold tickets to that would have spread COVID19 like wildfire through the state and beyondGood that this happened Better if it happens more for at least a few months|1 I wish they would stop adding that theyre older and had underlying health conditions Basically playing down the death of someones loved one Disgusting|0 I couldnt find this either So Im going on the assumption that its the same or at least similar regardless of location since there is not a large varience in treatment in the different major areas affected all thankfully had had reasonably stateoftheart facilitiesthe weird CFR differences reflect the local testing criteria and relative age of population affected Italy likely had a humungous infected base and an aging population that got exposed Washington state had a major outbreak in a nursing home etc|0 Lol they are almost as embarrassing as our governments initial response to the virus|1 Once they outside experts come inthey can no longer rig the narrative The truth will be out out in a few days|0 Yes this is drastically more preferable to a largescale wave all at once It is MUCH easier to deal with a longer pandemic that is shorter in intensity than it is to deal with all of the pandemic happening all at once|1 You could add inability to read a single paragraph with moderate comprehension|0 The thing is people do fuck up all the time Even politicians even clever scientists They dont actually HAVE to be evil people who specifically want to kill everyone they can also just be quite compassionless people who are blinded by their own hubris and ideology and have made mistakes that they arent willing to see due to their own arrogance or due to groupthinkI mean there is an argument to be made that this sort of careless arrogance and refusal to put their modelsdata etc out for review by the scientific community is a sort of evil of its own but its extremely unlikely that all the people working on this actually want people to die its more likely that theyre not really envisaging the human cost properly and are getting bogged down in numbers and models and are failing to see the big picture or where they may have gone wrongHuman history is littered with examples of people fucking up monumentally even when it seemed obvious to everyone else just because of echo chambersgroupthinkhubris etc|0 Who compiles the death reports|0 Important jobs should do protective shelter at work There are people we really need electric company for one Will it happen doubt it and watch slowly we lose services later cause most infected cause most this this is not a big deal and silently infecting people|0 fearing being assaulted as an AsianIm sorry thats the reality you have to face Thank you for working in healthcare|0 Not enough time to assess the fatality rate numbers outside of China yet You roughly need 100 recovered not infected just to get a ballpark number|0 My boyfriend went shopping after work this was around 5am and saw someone checking out with 30 cans of chickpeas and 20kg bag of rice He also went to Lidl a couple of days ago and all the canned and dry stuff was gone I tried doing an online shop last night and all the hand sanitisers were out of stock I definitely didnt expect it to happen in my area so soon|1 If they knew that then why not take measures to mitigate damage Im not sure now is the time for our leaders to be pointing fingers at each other but Ive got a couple for them lol|1 Not sure though he followed up today saying it seems to be really serious|0 I have But the death rate in Iran is 14 from official reports Iranian lawmakers are saying the numbers are bullshit Its more like 250 dead not 4050 Which means the death rate is extremely high in Iran|0 There are different places in various countries that are having difficulties getting testing done Regardless of the criteria in one country ie Sweden or Germany or Israel there is a difference of what is happening in other countries ie United States ChinaSouth Korea There even differences between different cities in particular countriesThus far there seems to be little coordinated response between countries A meeting of the G7 nations has been reported to be taking place today on this|1 Indestructible|1 To be fair her family has a lot of intimate contact with NBA players|1 Everyone on here should have at least a weeks supply of food as contingency The UK imports nearly all its food so we arent in a favourable situation like China and most EU countries are eg Spain Italy|1 I dont think theyre setting out to infect anyone they just would rather not spend their golden years as prisoners in their own homes|0 Sex play with gas masks and other PPE Is a thing Not mine thankfully Not kink shaming it just seems like a lot|1 Doctors in China were treated kinda like how public school teachers were treated in the US The Chinese love to make them heroes but hate actually paying them money Despite the stereotype of Asians in the West most middle class Chinese families didnt want their children to be doctors because the education requirements are high and the pay is low|0 They arent effective because they dont filter for the correct particle size N95 is 95 effective down to particles that are 03 microns The virus is 012 microns So yes the masks are fairly ineffective for preventing people from getting infected They will still be sightly effective for preventing people from infecting others which is why its important for health care professionals to have them Its not too stop then from getting sick its to help them to not infect every patient they see And its not the filtering property of the mask that does it its the fact that they are trained not to fiddle with it not to touch it and not to remove it so they are less likely to get the virus on their hands from their face if they are wearing the mask|0 The problem with this virus is the number of asymptomatic people spreading the virus Pretty much means everyone should wear a mask regardless of how they feel because you never know if you are virus free or just asymptomatic|1 Yes I read the report|1 lack of report on new GTA cases yesterday and today is a bit concerning though|0 For someone with crippling anxiety and depression during normal times Im actually very level headed and calm during an actual crisis I dont know whether its just because my panicked brain has already imagined everything that can go wrong or whether its just some weird adrenaline thing|0 Some people shoot up malls Others lick poles and hope for the worst|0 Yes individuals who have received selfemployment income are eligible for 602 benefits|1 once its a necessary measure then its no longer a human rights violation|0 In the mean time get vitamin C D and Zink which will not directly help but it will top up your bodys resources If you smoke stop that immediately and also no alcohol Remember that regular flu is still going strong and FAR more common than corona in UK at this moment|0 Speaking of Taiwan how come your site takes the Chinese Communist Party position and lists Taiwan as a region of China like its the equivalent of a SAR|1 He could be trying a bit harder to reassure his wife show he understands and is concerned too He could diligently disinfect all of his gear and uniform when he gets home or choose to stay away from his wife and kids so they arent at risk of getting sick He could stay with a coworker or friend for the time being so hes not bringing the virus home Theres no excuse for his lack of care or worry for his familys wellbeing None|1 Jetblue just banned a passenger for flying for the rest if his life Im sure theres an industry blacklist floating around |0 Come on man You guys are so boring Enough with the conspiracy theories ccp is doing propaganda and they brainwashing ppl again Its ordinary ppl just trying to have some kind of fun for quarantine themselves to prevent spread of diseasechilax actually after the video was made online the doctors said ppl shouldnt do this because you take deep breaths during singing and virus can transmit from top floor to lower floor by air Life is hard man|0 You should read the paper They first identified compounds that could work and then found plants that contained one or more of these chemical compounds Im not a fan of TCM but if they can identify something that could work in this manner Im all for it|0 It happened with Spanish Flu and some other pandemics It basically becomes endemic and sticks aroundAll type A flu are descendants from the Spanish flu having become endemic Afaik its still unclear why the second wave was so brutal back then|0 The first year of residency for any specialty is basic hospital work the foot doctor is trained and experienced in caring for pneumoniaTrained Maybe Experienced NoThe state of medicine in the United States is far worse than most people are aware as well US doctors can barely read an xray and I wish I was kidding Of the last 20 xrays I personally know of 18 were read wrong and some repeatedly My mother had 5 xrays done and got 5 different counts of broken ribs Whatever the correct count was 4 of those doctors were wrongThats what motivates the heroic doctors in China I dont think our doctors are any different If the motivation is to help people and not financial why do US doctors flock to be highlypaid specialists in our cities while we have a massive shortage of rural GPshttpswwwnprorgsectionshealthshots20190521725118232thestruggletohireandkeepdoctorsinruralareasmeanspatientsgowithoutcIf the motivation is to help people and not financial why do virtually all US doctors overprescribe dangerously addictive painkillershttpswwwwebmdcommentalhealthaddictionnews20160325nearlyallusdoctorsoverprescribeaddictivenarcoticpainkillerssurvey1 in return for kickbacks from drug companiesYou obviously have far more faith in the medical industry than I do There is next to zero evidence that US doctors are mainly interested in helping people and quite a lot that argues that they are forsale to the highest bidder and that many are drugdealers in white coatsThe potential to be a hero or a coward is in everyone becoming a specialist doesnt change that I agree with this but heros dont cause an opioid epidemic and thats exactly what our doctors have done|1 there are many people this does not apply to though so no reason to not expect others who can make other arrangements to do so|0 Im with you buddy Smoked my last smoke 2 days ago I live in Seattle Wanted to quit for about 6 months thought about it a lot but this coronavirus shit is scaring the crap out of me Im in my late 30s only been smoking about 10 years and told myself Id quit before Im 40 This time I actually did more than think about it I just said Im done and havent bought a pack since beyond the fact they push 12 a pack here all the fun stuff I could do with that cash instead of slowly damage myselfGood luck I know how much it sucks But we can do it|0 What is wrong with this Why would I go to a clinic if I have mild symptoms that can be managed with household medicationsIf I do have the virus I risk infecting others by going out in public If I dont have the virus I risk becoming infected with it by others who are at the clinic to get testedSeems like South Korea had the best way of handling this where you can get tested in your car by people in PPE without exposing yourself to the public|0 Maybe thats their plan to save money on taking care of prisoners Kill them all|0 Idk man The wealthier folks may The folks who are lower than mid class may wait until they are on deaths door|1 People already spent their savings on healthcare bills They have no savings left for disastersSomething like 9 out of 10 personal bankruptcies are due to medical bills|1 Popes die all the time They would just replace him with some other old guyThe pope isnt the Catholics God|0 WHO and CDC are recommending people 60 or older should stay home as much as possible all the time if they can and arrange to have groceries delivered by family or services if possible Isolate your elders|0 early Jan flight attendent and social service provider etc were ordered by wuhan gov not to wear masks for fear of causing public panic and we all know what happened later|0 My wife just got back from the local supermarket suburban Northern California and had bought two bottles of Purell at the regular everyday low price from a full shelf of them|0 Happy cake day|1 Its not stupidity its selfishnessMarathon runners are pretty healthy They are part of the population that can catch the virus and most likely not suffer a lot of negative effects So for some of them it might be worth the riskHowever they are being extremely selfish because their congregation will help spread the virus to people who are not as healthy as them their parents their elderly neighbors poor people without access to healthcare etc|1 You are a cunt Bezos Dont want a multi billionaire to actually lose some money now do we|0 This is why EVERYONE needs to wear masks Even cheap cloth bandanas from torn linen will do Cheap masks may not be great at stopping uninfected from inhaling tiny virus but they ARE highly effective at vastly reducing the infection radius of infected persons An infected person wearing a cloth bandana is going to infect far fewer peopleAnd since we cant tell who is infected they may not even know themselves EVERYONE needs to wear a mask When we are all wearing masks we can feel safer and move one step closer to ending this pandemic Is it a coincidence that every country that has been successful in flattening the curve demands that everyone wear masks|0 This is good for healthcare people They dont have to cook after a 12 hours shift|1 Its straight up terrifying|0 All babys under 6 month old have there mothers emunesystem same reason you dont need vacation before then for all those anti vaxers|0 UPDATE well it seems like the point of yesterdays videos was to just explain the British governments actions and he seems to be back to his usual self which is good|1 I have been isolating and prepping for 14 days and everyone thought I was nuts and now I feel this eerie calm|0 how many people are approximately sick with coronavirus statistics are always wrong|0 A benevolent dictator is a great form of government but what happens when your strongman dies or can no longer lead They leave such a power vacuum that the government can implode especially if they die suddenly and without warning|0 Yes but also SKorea has taken the mitigation of this virus very seriously in terms of social distancing isolation and case tracking measures This means that only the very most at risk are likely to suffer So the UK critical case rate is much more likely to be closer to the Italian figure especially when you consider our current infrastructureEdit typo|0 honestly twitter makes reddit look like an openminded diverse sea of thoughts|1 For people who dont know what R0 meansFrom Google In epidemiology the basic reproduction number of an infection can be thought of as the number of cases one case generates on average over the course of its infectious period in an otherwise uninfected population|1 How exactly are you proposing that people walking their dogs could potentially be a transmission vectorViruses dont just float freely in the air and spread that way fool By far the most likely way for transfer is when bodily fluids containing shed virus are left on a common surface that someone else touches and introduces to their system via orificemucous membrane Theres exactly one way that a dog walker would potentially infect someone and thats the door handle inandout andor an elevator in a city apartment setting Have good prophylactic hygiene there and the danger is null Again the only thing that truly matters in slowing spread is preventing mass gatherings and super spreaders Dog walkers dont endanger anyone and youre painfully ignorant if thats your claim|0 CNN never covers the important stuff|0 The evidence is not clear on whether that is the case or notUnless you can link published academic papers confirming this to be the case|0 Hey sorry on gloves and masks|0 Just track peoples cell phones people wont leave their cell phones home lol|1 I just laughed so hard at this|1 Today italy numbers are going down 25 increase yesterday 17 today Weve passed the peak there Oh is this confirmed Thats great I had seen encouraging numbers but apparently they were still in the process of being updatedUpdate This seems to indicate the contrary Which one is righthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfi3jngitalyhitsonedayrecordwith250newcoronavirus After that italy start up again with the caveat that they will do parnoid testing and social distancing and keep things in control that way just like they have done in hubaiwuhan and its been working for a month without issueSpeaking of which its my understanding that schools have not resumed in Wuhan right|1 Not trying to be grim but taking a vaccine designed within 2 months is suicideShe is a hero and this will help butThe unknown side effects are likely to be tragic everyone in the medicine field knows this I hope they explained this to her especially since shes a mother|1 This is for the public health authorities to triage I dont think its helpful to be posting articles saying random oldish person dies despite CPR and implying its because of this|0 Interesting They also are doing a super good job at keeping case numbers controlled Probably because under those terms quarantine doesnt sound as terrifying|1 That is not going to stop hipsters|1 I think youd have to actually kill someone and the prosecution would need to prove without a doubt that you were the person they contracted the virus from No one else Additionally that the death was not caused by medical malpractice or any other circumstances A homicide case like that wouldnt really be worth it The flu kills somewhere between 12000 61000 people a year and no one has ever been charged with homicide in the US for spreading it|0 They literally hid entire warehouses full of relief aid just to make him look bad who knows what kind of stupid crap people will try with this outbreak situation|0 Depends on how many days after if she is staying for a day its a low risk More than that its a risk|0 Herd immunity is so irrational This seems to be a race to who does the best move Yet fail miserably and people die We need to shut down and stop the contamination That is how you stop the virus Correction we should have shut down|0 is that the air quality in China was significantly better in the early 2000s than it is nowThis is just flat out statistically not true Air pollution in most major chinese cities peaked around 20122014 but has sharply declined since Still too high though|1 Valid question but the first two weeks could be more isolated and passive which is not ideal I know But there must be smaller or detached houses in Japan for separated quarantinesOnce past quarantine they can resume practicing and preparing|0 This sums it up one can only hope people go through a total mindset revolution after this If we learn nothing it would be catastrophic|0 This was one of my favorite reads this week If China had locked down everything just one day earlier they would have had 40 fewer deaths Just one dayhttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca|1 Theyve always produced hand sanitizer but in the past they would just quietly dispose of it|1 Psh hes an idiot Im voting for Kodos|0 Thanks|1 The US military tested their expired masks and decided they were fine|1 Agreed but that is over 1000000 people Nothing to sneeze at|1 Influenza is known to be seasonal occurring in the winter in temperate areas and during the summer in tropical areasIts theoreticized that the physics of humidity and temperature affect the water droplets that bear the virusFor example its theoreticized that higher humidity causes water droplets to grow in size and thus drop out of the air fasterIts also theoreticized that either droplet accumulation or evaporation can change salt concentrations of a water droplet rendering the virus nonviableIn addition temperature and humidity affect the human body which may be more prone to infection under different conditions|0 Hospitalization rates are 10x the flu That would imply an additional 5000000 icu cases That will overwhelm the medical system in the US That alone is a major societal danger|0 There is a lot of anger brewing against Taiwan in China right now The CCP is stirring the pot making people angry that Taiwan banned masks exports during Chinas hour of need The loyal citizens of Taiwan wanted to express brotherly devotion and ship masks over but the inhuman Taiwan government restricted it I try to stay calm and avoid any political subject but this one pissed me off Especially considering the shelves of every other country in the globe has been ravaged wiped clean with citizens unable to protect themselves as the outbreak spreads there It was kind of my fault for bringing up Taiwan as a counterexample to Italy as a place where liberty and democracy were effective in combating the threat|0 I removed my case I think I can keep it cleaner that way|1 Did they Thank god My grandmother lives on the northwestern coast and its so hard to get news of Mada|1 Agree and worry the panic may affect things more than the disease|0 Yes thats the one Also felt very justified when Fauci said if youre overreacting youre probably doing the right thing|1 My mom is a nurse and is extremely frustrated with the lack of preparation or training The US is grossly unprepared Health care workers who understand this are angry and know their health and safety is not being considered This response has been gross negligence IMO|0 Thats what Im talking about Places like DFW that have bodies and cargo going through|1 Thank you Hopefully more will do the same And not this week Not tomorrow NOW|1 Imagine being that much of a selfish loser that you cant put up with 2 weeks of being fed and housed for free at the taxpayer dime for the good of othersAnd they offered a life of that for King Edward and he preferred the hot American girl insteadNo sex for 2 weeks besides the hands in addition to the time in Wuhan some people will crack and complain|0 Tbh I love to ditch class because I hate the hassle of going all the way and finding parking especially when its raining or cold But some people like to be in class I get it With that being said I cannot comprehend why lectures arent simultaneously live streamed in every college campus The professors could easily lecture over a live streamSure they might have to postpone tests and quizzes but they could assign more homework and projects I dont get it If the colleges were already embracing the modern world shutting down the campuses wouldnt be such a big deal|1 If I am away from my job for more than a day or two Ill just die homeless on the street instead of at home|0 This is the damage that over reacting to a situation and panicking causes Panicking triggers fightorflight responsesIf you really want to be a leader in your community and help the situation its massively important to remain calm Otherwise youre only making the situation worse by triggering other peoples fightorflightof course its everyones responsibility to control their own actions but not everybody believes that fightorflight is the wrong response to give into or has the self control to manage their emotions|0 Actually negative as in no detected proteins or negative as defined by the CCPCDC guidelines where you only count a fraction of the people to prevent panic|0 RACISM|0 Invest in a hazmat suit and use that when going outside to get the groceries and clean it up under open shower before entering your place when you come back|1 Yes I am and thank god I wont be dealing with any clintons or the like|1 Thats what happens when budgets are cut |0 I see this as an absolute win|1 Problem is that even if we had universal healthcare it doesnt stop hospitals from being overburdened There are many ways in which the leaders of this country and others could have prepared for something like this Unfortunately with everything being about making the most money rather than helping your fellow man this is the results you get|1 All the workers who support nursing homes would have to go on extended deployments with 2 week interchange periods of quarantine separated from their children the whole time etc Doctors with some rare specialty would need to travel between multiple nursing homes and also be part of the deployment and some of them are needed to service populations outside of nursing homes as well|1 Unrealistic I know BUT imagine if these kits were available on Amazon at a reasonable price for anyone to selftest If they were like the rapid flu tests we could test ourselves and see the results shortly thereafter without having to send the kit away I would love to know how rapidly this virus is spreading and how many are infectedPipe dream but still|1 Better to have warnings and a chance to get stuff done we need to just incase we cant later|1 Yeah but you can be book smart yet not at all wise|1 We have no known effective way to treat Covid19 and the CFR is going to be 35 and up once hospitals are saturated The key is to slow spread until we can get a handle on treatment plans and a vaccinePeople can live a normal safe life with HIV so long as it is well detected and medicated Why are people so bent on finding comparisons to minimise our current situation|1 Can you share some of the posts anonymously|1 Its like the only choices are PANIC PANIC PANIC and buy all the toilet paper and Zero fucks givenTheres a whole range of totally reasonable things we should be doing to weather this with minimal loss of life and freaking out or totally not giving a shit are the two worst things we can be doing right now|0 You can tell that the administration finally woke up to how serious this was over the weekend Expect to see some major action this week The experts must have finally broken through to Trump that the travel bans were a delaying tactic not a solution|0 you are wrong about the age profile in south korea 58 of people infected are below 50 years compared to 25 in italyx200Bbut yes the CFR in italy is higher for all age groups but curiously around 50 higher I wonder if this has to do with italy not testing mild and asympt cases|0 Ugh thats awful Id hate to miss appointments but you have to do what makes you feel safe|0 Because republicans have been given the message not to take it seriously so they arentMy parents fall into this demographic and talking to them is so frustrating My dad thinks this flu thing will be over in about a week My mom thinks it can be cured by drinking tea ReallyLots of people working around the clock to find a cure but nope its tea Pandemic cured everyone can go home now|0 Dont worry they dont follow through on things like this If theres an opportunity to be stupid or evil they take it|0 Everyone should realize mild is relative term Obviously many things will seem mild if death is at one end of the scale|0 Have you ever been to China Asking for a friend|1 Also at least in China I live in the US need outside help We used to be the only two people at that meeting that didnt let us have pizza growing up because she says Italians arent the time for it ontop of that the USA has all 5 mutations of the virus is doing very little testing and people will only risk going to the hospital when deathly ill|0 Neither should any other nationality command us to stay home condemn us to be evicted|0 I can also bring up another difference For better or probably worse actually the spanish flu could kill within one day of onset of symtpoms This would make it much easier to identify and contain What we have here is an escape artist with an ability to infect alot of people before anyone has a clue that they are in any danger Lets also not forget that SARS was initially thought to have a 23 CFR Case Fatality Rate It was later known to have in actuality a 10 Fatality rate SARS is in the same family of viruses and a close relative of Covid19 also the virus that causes COVID19 is identified as SARScov2|0 I think its very important to make this distinction theres a concerted effort to minimize the number of confirmed infected people That actually has the opposite effect on the true number infected|0 You would always multiply the question is is there multiplier Ie Do they have a greater effect together then individually I would say yes but have no way to know by how much The reason you would multiply is that if you add you can get over 100 but if you multiply the percentages you cannot Thats me super tired and not necessarily right but I think that is correct I will rethink in the morning|0 Doesnt help if 80 of the population are kept in denial by not reporting on the issues at hand|1 They just suck at testing and finding dead people is easier|0 Its been moving quickly since it was discovered in ChinaAnyone paying any actual attention saw the writing on the wall a month agoEdit using this post for a bit of good advertising tune into PeakProsperity on YouTube for actual nonsensational information The BS floating around on MSM is nowhere to be found on that YouTube channel Dudes been saying to stock up on food buy masks quarantine pretty much since day 1|1 Absolutely I dont like it|0 Yep thats the way it is here in the USA at least in my state nobody really cares about the possibility of the virus ever personally affecting themwith almost no cases in the country few people are worried just yet Im sure thats true in European and Scandinavian countries also|1 I hope that someone on the inside of the mouses organization has documented proof they knew of the risk and chose to ignore Dover profits as save that correspondence for when this crisis is at a point where we can look with inward reflection And then drop the bomb on that absolutely evil heartless corporation|0 People are still downvoting me for saying that there are asymptomatic carriers Random people on Twitter and Reddit were trying to tell inform people of the truth yet there are still experts who maintain that the risk is low when there are no symptoms This is the world we live in At this point Im not sure which is the bigger danger Human stupidity and the failure to think critically or the COVID19 itself|0 Were gonna keep words great|1 Theres not that much money in testing Especially in this instance where public health is paying forna lot of it Making and producing test kits is a little profitable but not that muchThis is akin I think to thinking theres a vaccine conspiracy the money involved doesnt match the issues at allIts more just usual beurocracy|0 system could be upgraded but elderly care is no age discrimination |1 How are Japans numbers so low|0 This will have huge effect on AMERICA in general Like someone cut off their feet|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Save our sewer systems and dont flush those wipes even if they say you can|1 US just like China must Save face|1 Over the last few weeks is it the virus thats spreading across the USWorldor is it the ability to test accurate thats been spreading recently How do we know we havent been living with it all around us for months In NE Ohio we just had one of the worst flu seasons in decades How do we know the coronavirus wasnt a contributing factor We werent testing for it at the time|0 if your trying to say that private healthcare wouldnt do this do please understand that1 private healthcare would just take in the personfamily with the most cash2 this is most probably fake news the newspaper that this comes from is known for sensationalized titles and has been reported to the italian newspaper ethical commission and fined multiple times in this case they are posting this based on a letter they received the govt is saying theres very little place in the ICU and that they have had to move patients highly infectious patients I might add from region to region because the problem is just n the worst hit cities3 Lombardy has a much greater ration of ICU beds per person that the US|0 I tried to thank every partner I came across today in Yoakum Yall are doing everything you can to take care of us and I really appreciate it|1 Its 11k tests administered Not 11k people tested They have been testing people 34 times to confirm So its all bullshit again|0 From my understanding also immunosuppressive but Im not that close to the granular profile and mechanism of action to display confidence on that so Im happy to take your lead on that particular detail Thanks|1 Its the same in my country At one hand they keep saying that masks dont work even FFP3 n99 ones one the other they just pushed an act that will let the government literally seize the means of productions and redistribute private masks and other supplies to healthcare workers They know damn well that masks work and dont want the first responders falling sick because they have no means of protecting themselves which is understandable What isnt is why didnt our NHS counterpart order thousands of masks for every county a month ago when it was still feasible and cheap They also ignore all studies from China like the ones about the incubation period being up to 24 days and the ones about spread being possible with masks but without eye protectionOn top of that they actively state that nobody should be wearing surgical masks as they do not protect you Of course they do not protect people from getting ill but they drastically reduce the possibility of asymptomatic carriers spreading the virus which is the reason why Chinese police applies correction when they see someone without a mask on the streets But I guess our govt doesnt care about that|0 Mexicans gonna start keeping Americans out Ironic|0 Im curious about how this meshes with the research in China much of which is cited in their bibliography In those studies they experimented with what they referred to as SARS helicase inhibitors and 3CL protease inhibitorsIm having a really hard time trying to associate the terminology in this paper with others Ive read out of Chinese research|0 Welp there she blows this has been a great run guys|1 There is too little data to tell on both sides of the comparisonInternational cities have too few cases to be statistically significant Meanwhile Wuhan data is heavily distorted in the initial days for a variety of reasons including poor governance suppression and lack of testing|0 Knowing that Tom is a Type 2 diabetic and 60 years old gives me some ease that my type 2 diabetic mother 49 has a chance of beating this if she does contract it Just trying to find some silver lining in this|1 I think its right on the moneyIn New Jersey where we have evidence of community spread and spiking levels of ILIs in the ER in the past two weeks weve only done 80 tests for Covid19 We are the most densely populated state in the nation and a major transit hub 80 tests is a major failing|0 We cant trust the Chinese s|0 COVID19 is a coronavirus not a flu virus|1 ProBeijing camp always say that China save us from SARS|1 Oh gawd First the TP now Reddit Luckily Ive been slowly hoarding some reddits over the last couple of weeks Might pick up some more for my family incase they run out Stay strong people|1 This is disturbing tbhI was going to go to sleep soon too|0 Information literacy is a good phrase for what youre describingAnd yeah we should be teaching this in primary school How to read and understand articles and validate sources|1 Based on a source from China lol sure|1 So then we are going to start getting masks through cartels in Mexico Sounds like a great plan for another supply source Outlaw the masks|1 Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated by force if necessary Ronald Reagan|0 That is the only possible outcome i see from this there is a potential that people finally realise that there are things the whole humankind has to work together to stop or fix them|0 HIV had C Everett Koop out there sticking close to scientific script It saved lives I think COVID19 deserves the same Fauci seems like the man made for this momentDear Dr Fauci You were born for this You are a scientist a doctor and a protecter of the public trust Do the right thing|1 The number of cases weve seen reported in this country Thats the tip of the iceberg Right now theyre saying we have about 450 cases in the US I have little doubt that we probably have near 10 times that number No ones getting tested though so we just dont know The infection rates are going to go through the roof because no one knows they should be quarantining themselves and no one goes to the doctor because its too expensive Its a fucking ridiculous mess and I fully blame the trump administration and our health care system A lot of people are going to die because of it|0 My pleasure 538 per litre on eBay free delivery grab it quick|1 Right like Iran Several of the people who were in front of mics claiming everything was ok are now infected with a couple deceased The first chapter reads eerily similar time will tell|1 I work in an Emergency Room There are not nearly enough tests for everyone who develops symptoms and they take roughly 5 days to result If you are feeling ill go to the ER and we will treat you If the illness is severe putting you in critical or lifethreatening condition then the hospital has the ability to send a request to the State Health Department who will then likely approve a test If the illness is not severe but you have at some point come into contact with an individual who has tested positive then you will likely be asked to selfquarantine for 2 weeks Due to our governments esteemed s decision to disband the crisis control people at the CDC there are simply not enough tests and the tests are not efficient enough to test everyone Please do not place blame on the medical community if you do not receive a test The fact of the matter is that many people may not ever know if they have the true Coronavirus or if their symptoms are related to any number of other viral upper respiratory illnesses eg influenza rhinovirus or seasonal allergies or something else Everything is based around the treatment of your illness and how severe it is|0 Well they arent even making this call now|1 Im a hospital volunteer If you bring hospital staff food we will love you forever Seriously thanks so much Although in this environment might want to provide prepackaged food|1 The fact how ignorant and superficial people are really scares me|0 Rumors of seizures did come out of Wuhan Some videos as well before the CCP took them down Who knows I think a lot of information is yet to be released|1 Sure I dont disagree with that although I dont see any connection with what I said |1 Thanks|1 Austerity for all public services is a completely separate issue for discussion Would absolutely not call you a conspiracy theorist for that but yeah see my previous reply|1 Hello from Washington state A coworker is flying out to New Orleans on Thursday Its okay though because she says shes young and it wont affect her|1 Thats only 21 people not bad|1 Cryptic as in SecretUndetected Personally when I heard the First US case came through SeaTac Airport in WA I questioned why wasnt there any focus on all the various people there with possible contact Many others on reddit were wondering towelp now we are finding out it has been spreadingtransmitting undetected which in my opinion was just the calm before the storm And the storm hasnt even started in the US|1 Ya see I really like this graph and thank you for it but not trying to be rude shouldnt the independent variable infected be on the XAxisSorry Im just a Canadian|0 Hes stated he wants it to be his magnum opus essentially Its gonna be great|1 absolutely However people still have heart attacks so there would have to be some kept for those emergencies as well as trauma victims|0 The virus is replicating in your body before you develop symptoms and there is viral shedding where a significant amount of the virus comes out of you without showing symptoms like in kids|0 The estimates are just that estimates We arent getting better data as the Spanish flu gets farther awayWere getting better at validating data and making estimates Newer estimates are probably better than older estimates though of course making any decisions about which is better requires actually understanding the details of each estimate|0 I needed to know today because I work with the public So fuck your dumbass logic you dont know shit about it|0 FWIW I dont think mortality rate is the correct term pretty sure the term is Case Fatality Rate Some people get infected and dont get Ill so dont get counted|0 This is a very good beginning Is the US is doing this despite the WHO saying the opposite maybe they have access to more alarming infoIt will be nice though that they start also applying this not only to people visiting China but also from countries who dont support any kind of ban or screening yeah Im talking about you Japan this will hopefully force them to do something as wellIf all countries acted quickly and swiftly we could be done with this in two weeks and return to normal life The slower the reaction is the longer the fear and escalating procedures abs the worse it would be on global economy as well|0 Im a IT guy in a library Im great|1 IMO it would help decrease spreading and buy us time time to get up and running as the fed and state are behind the curve If we dont have accurate numbers we cannot make decisions about the severity Therefore in my mind universal precaution is always best aka heath life is the most important aspect I mean in everyone had 35k in savings right now would you go into work If my company did not fire me i probably would not and just lay low social distance around home Quarantine buys us time However i am no expert nor do i have the tools The hard other aspect is economy and from what I have been hearing we cannot have both Since elderly are most at risk they are betting on economy However things appear to be self shutting without state and government in US slowly You would need to do an analysis model which is a best guess in my opinion Weigh economy vs health timing severity and make a statistically backed and time implemented decision However as mentioned health is always the most important Health and security will lead economy feeling your company cares about your health creates workers that want to be part of the teamThis is asymptomatic people can spread without knowing they have it as some mentioned in the previously reply It is most spreadable during asymptomatic and early phase from what i have gathered Therefore like simple 0 1 logic mitigate spread keep people away from each other|1 Wow karma is gonna hit that idiot so hard soon|0 My family of 5 is staying home as long as we have toExtended family and friends think Im ridiculous and are often making fun of meIve been trying my best to educate them on how important it is for everyone to stay home via science etc but nobody cares|1 Are you scared|0 Horrible leadership and organization|0 Yes you wont be going to school when your city is in lockdown|1 My best guess is they were possibly a couple military members which would be understandableBut I wholeheartedly agree a different course of events might not have stopped it but surely you have to give yourself the best chances of success at least which I dont think we did I hope more than anything Im wrong but the opportunities to make good decisions seem to be running out|1 No No panic yet This is actually lower than most projections|0 Your statement would be true of all bacteria and viruses that have had genomes isolated for testing If you have evidence beyond a conspiracy theory that some malicious actor wants to play with SARS 1 and has weaponized it to create COVID19 please present your evidence and cite your sources Reddit and the international community at large would love to see it|1 She needs to be fired and banned from any journalism going forward|0 Its only in case it gets overwhelmed none of this applies yet|1 I sure see this a lot a lot more than I would expect and not see proof that most trees in Wuhan do not have leaves currentlyIt snowed where I live atleast twice before all the leaves fell|1 Oh my god what no wayWell I guess testing doesnt matter anyway because they said the number of cases would drop to 0 very soon And a vaccine would be ready very rapidly Iirc Is it still the case for those two things|1 Not rude sadly people can be very defensive and unreasonable Even if they thought you were wrong its clear you have good intentions and that ought to be respected|1 Yes and the nurses and doctors breaking down because they knew it was out of their control Their job is to save lives and they couldnt So tragic |1 Thank you I am now forever grateful that he continued to preach this to us growing up I am as prepared as I can be|1 So its a win win|1 Im not a debby downer Im a realist and advising OP how to stay safe I also had practical advice|1 You are in reddit with that age Cool|1 Really sucks As a runner Id be pissed if the race was canceled I worked so hard for this one race and spend many months and dollars prepping just to have it taken away from meBut it still should be stopped Or at the very least drastically altered Maybe have no crowdobservers allowed and instead of one giant start line you can offset in small groups of 100 every 10 minutes to limit the number of people that can be infected by 1 personHavi g said all that its still the best decision to just cancel the damn marathon Or just postpone it until fall or something|0 The financial toll will be just as bad as the death toll if you allow it to rapidly get out of handWhere is the logic in that|0 Railroader here Ill be collecting and spreading germs unfortunately as much as Id rather be able to stay home people need supplies to move around the nation|0 My number Im well aware that this will drastically lower I just thought it made quite shocking reading Also I wasnt sure if a closed case was recovered or just discharged from hospital I can see that it is in fact people that have recovered|0 Yep and several times he sounded winded and out of breath|1 I guess not What happened to America Lead from leaded gas for years all over the highway system Leaded paint for decades Industry in poor areas I just dont understand it honestly|0 Im currently working on the responsive mobile version it works on phones but looks best ATM on Desktop|1 This is doublesecretreverse racism so its totally cool just dont look too close|0 I meantheir words are not wrong factually But their whole response is wrong lol|1 Good point edited it|1 I think one person from the house could leave every 2 days Now no one can leave In another thread I read it says supplies will be delivered to peoples homes|0 I have no idea it is beyond belief Either they are infatuated with their crackpot futurology behavioural psychology socalled scientists so are going with their nuts advice over the advice of actual epidemiologists or they are trying to find a way to make this an opportunity for them somehow get rid of vulnerable population they see as a drain on society I know that sounds crazy but these arent normal human beings theyre mostly sociopaths they dont actually care or even feel a twinge of the conscience from the idea of having many deaths on their hands|0 Well I guess reddit is becoming the very thing it promised not to be Specifically remember seeing numerous posts stating that dogs and cats cannot transmit the virus|1 Its totally fine This guy is gonna be hunkered down behind his wall of tin cans Youre allowed to go outside and a mostly empty park isnt going to get you close enough to touch someone or get sneezed on|1 Exactly theyre overreacting i bet the number of kids without access to computers is under 5 in Seattle Just give them chrome books and tell them to go to Starbucks|1 Yes Im able to stay home due to being immunocompromised but my coworkers are still stuck at work|0 It isnt This data is in comparison to the seasonal flu Its saying that for all age groups it is deadlier than the seasonal fluCOVID19 when not compared to the flu is still deadliest for senior citizens|0 Italy has a much better health systemNot true Not even close|1 Someone in another sub suggested the disease name be changed to COVFEFE19 in honor of the presidents role in making effective responses impossible and flat out lying to public about it|1 To be fair you have to pretty much to be critical enough to have to fight back from near death to be at major risk for this|0 Yes and they can bring in Major Lazer and Blink182|1 Pretty likely he already has He should be tested asap|1 Is it possible that the mechanism of action for chloroquine against sarscov2 is as a zinc ionophore Given that zinc has been shown to disrupt replication of RNA viruses including sarscovIf thats the case it would be interesting to see if there is any effect from treating with zinc quercetin EGCG since those two polyphenols also act as zinc ionophores No idea if that translates to practice but seems like theres at least a basis for it especially if this is how chloroquine is working|1 Where are these global estimates putting it at 02 Thats the number that came out of China I believe|1 Has anybody been able to track down who the company is I cant see it reported anywhere I would say its time to ask for their comment and figure out how legit this story is If its found to be true I think this company should have some serious exposure|1 Do you have emergency funds of your own|0 a lot of animated films made from home Aww thats a cute euphemism for quarantine babies|1 Its been great for traffic|1 Thats exactly opposite to what the OP has shown This Japanese man died of viral pneumonia which is exactly the outcome of the nCov virus Then China declared it to be from viral pneumonia without attributing it to the nCov virusThat goes in direct contradiction to what you just said According to you theyd correctly attribute it but they did not|0 Americans are really fucking stupid Source Am surrounded by them and their voting decisions|0 Actually this is not smart We dont know how the virus spread now so there is a chance to get infected this way|0 First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win|1 If that vow lasts more than a week Id be surprised especially if you plan on taking parts into consideration|1 True Apple Pay google pay zelle but I dont like the idea of money being constantly printed|0 People who are healthy and child bearing age are not at as much risk of getting very sick Its the people they come in contact with like old folks and people with cancer or other immune issues that will get really sick|0 Trump needs the numbers to look low to get reelected so there ya go|0 I dont shake those utility workers hands on a daily basis|1 Unfortunately Reddit has decided that the CCP is unwaveringly unreliable and so all kinds of bullshit gets posted on this sub|0 and the BBC comments are rife with racismTo be fair all the news websites are like that Theres a lot of racists out there and short of getting rid of them theres not a lot we can fo if they dont act violently We have a ton of those in the US They even infiltrated the WH|1 Thanks for the positive message|1 Because you won the deaddinosaur aka oil lotteryImagine if Texas would only follow Alaskas example and pay all of its citizens for living there|1 It is not supposed to be taken like an aspirin at home by yourself they are using it to treat people in intensive care so other infections perforations etc SHOULD be controlled for as much as possibile|1 Gee were fucked in Ballaratits already FREEZING and people starting to sniffle|0 Did you read the AMA with the British intensive care doctor yesterday|1 There was a report yesterday by japan i think that a confirmed case contracted it from a 15 second exposure The discussion by redditors was that it seemed unlikely but that report did come from an official govt agency i dont know what to believe with the lack of transparency by different entities around the world|0 It doesnt hurt to be prepared In this case its not a bad idea to prepare to isolate yourself in your home for 24 weeks as the people of Wuhan are currently doing Its not drastic and extra food can always be used if the epidemic doesnt arrive|1 Oh man I dont think I can fit much more cynicism in me lol Im going to believe that this is all suddenly nonpolitical|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Forgot to say ruling out infection based on lack of fever|0 I always tell them the Chinese government didnt quarantine millions and build 2 hospitals in 10 days for something that isnt as bad as the flu|1 no but I saw world war z once|0 We were warned numbers would rise with the influx of kits I would expect a big jump on tuesday or wednesday for the opening of the new military hospital I think it opens today so am allowing 48hrs for testing to be up and running at full capacity I think we will know things ate getting better if the number of critical cases peaks and starts falling since we know the hospitals are full and only taking very serious cases everyone else gets sent home If the critical cases ratio peaks and then starts falling that would indicate that less serious cases are now being processed Theres quite a backlog of suspected cases|0 If youre out in bars in an area where someone has been 100 effected by corona and has not been quarantined or even if he has youre an idiot for being out at a bar One of the grossest places where sloppy drunks do the worst of the worseReminds me of people riding public transportation in Chicago after knowing the guy that got it Thursday went from ohare to his home in Chicago by public transport|0 Thats some impressive numbers in the negative sense|0 well good but thats just my opinion|1 Wow thats a dangerous situation|1 Singapores contract tracing is arguably the best in the world with how theyve been able to identify and track down all these local clusters of infection even being able to link them all togetherMost countries can do contract tracing but not to the extent Singapore can and this was pointed out in the media in multiple reports including from health experts even before the surge of cases in Europe Pointing this out is simply a fact and its one of the main differences between them and Europe along with social responsibility in listening to the governments advice like you mentioned earlier whereas in Italy people ignored the governments advice to avoid crowds until it was too late|0 Just imagine being patient zero You might not even die just get really sick and be like damn this is bad then shrugging it off Then four months later|0 Its also concerning that at least one person wasnt allowed to board the flight There are no updates about what happened to the one person who had a high fever I read there was potentially up to 39 people who were not allowed to board|0 their only real livestock is sheepWhat do you have against sheep They provide wool vitamin d milk then meat|1 There is absolutely no need to start thinking about retreating to a cabin in the woods no matter how many infected there are If youre not elderly or immune compromised you probably dont even have much to fear from the virus itself Please dont do anything rash|0 sick pay in the US comes out of the employers pocket theres no connection to taxes larger corporations can afford the overhead and they consider it a benefit and its generally a full time worker benefit Small businesses cant afford that overhead of paying a full day of wages to someone that is not working Its sad but thats how it works here|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate The Iranian soccer player did not die her death was misreported and has been debunked If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 I wonder why people are fearful panicking and mistrustful of the government |0 Seen thanks|1 She deserves prison and lifetime ban from France Selfish cunt|0 I read your edit Thanks for the update|1 They dont have that culture It is simply a straightforward way to contain the disease And they just protect themselves by putting mask on So WTF is mask does not help|0 I think what were starting to see is a lot of people with Ice Flow mentality They dont really care if the oldvulnerable die|0 You mean in reverse The surgical ones are the useless ones|0 My mother caught Swine flu during the outbreakshe self isolated in her room None of our family other than her caught it At the time she was obese pre diabetic and had extreme blood pressure issues it was quite the wake up call for her she takes her health much more seriously now|0 Any insights as to whether SARSCoV2 exhibits antibodydependent enhancement and what would occur with these alternative entry vectors with active Camostat treatment The original SARS did namely the Fc receptors on immune cells Results from infectivity assays indicate that SARSCoV ADE is primarily mediated by diluted antibodies against envelope spike proteins rather than nucleocapsid proteinshttpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0006291X14013321httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0006291X14013321I worry that blockade of the ACE2 receptor will simply lead to a different infection vector The last 2 sentences are keyhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3187504httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3187504We demonstrate here that antiSpike immune serum while inhibiting viral entry in a permissive cell line potentiated infection of immune cells by SARSCoV Spikepseudotyped lentiviral particles as well as replicationcompetent SARS coronavirus Antibodymediated infection was dependent on Fc receptor II but did not use the endosomallysosomal pathway utilized by angiotensin I converting enzyme 2 ACE2 the accepted receptor for SARSCoV This suggests that ADE of SARSCoV utilizes a novel cell entry mechanism into immune cellsThis would be consistent with the reemergence that has been observed as antibody titers fall after the initial infection and the reinfection of people who have already recovered oncehttpswwwcaixinglobalcom2020022614ofrecoveredcovid19patientsinguangdongtestedpositiveagain101520415htmlhttpswwwcaixinglobalcom2020022614ofrecoveredcovid19patientsinguangdongtestedpositiveagain101520415html|1 Any chance this sub could change its name The WHO literally stated not to do this COVID19 as a sub name should still be open|1 But when will this even go into effect Starting tomorrow Starting in 6 weeks They promised surveillance testing in major cities over a month ago cities included Seattle but that NEVER HAPPENED Clinics follow pretty strict protocol re when a pt can be tested for coronavirus I doubt that by tomorrow it will change|1 I think we should trust at good sources like who and unicef keeping our feelings aside|1 Sure Running water isnt always nearby|1 Cant samples be flown by air and tested with their surplus testing capacity How hard could that possibly be I work in factories that make something completely non essential and if a line is down we will fly people and components around the world in less than a day And this seems a little more important than that|1 Dont forget to use the cardboard roll Also check the trash and recycling for paper Heed the voice of experience|1 It makes you have less ACE2 so the virus might have more trouble finding a way in|0 Florida is actually probably the best place in the world to avoid a virus outbreak Its cities are extremely spread out and suburban Sunlight everywhere as well as high humidity and heat Everyone drives barely anyone takes public transportation or walks|1 Currently hiding from winter in SE Asia Returning to USA next week God willing Taking voluntary quarantine if offered cuz poor enough and its still cold out|0 I can buy the infection rate its the total deaths part that seems hard to wrap my mind around I dont see how China could possibly hide that many dead and how it wouldnt completely destroy their credibility when it got out Fudging some things downplaying yes but tens of thousands of hidden dead That seems hard to imagineBut who knows really It will probably be years before we understand the entire story|0 I am going to start doing that but I have messed the dosing up before and melted my brain for hours It was terrifying and Ive been hesitant since However that is what Ive been thinking|0 We arent going to run out consumption levels will remain relatively flat Amazon and others are on it give it a few dayshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvoHC1230OpOgThe vulnerability of the container shipping supply chain has been repeatedly and painfully exposed but as 2020 gets underway the industry is facing disruption on a scale not seen in its more than 60year history as a result of the coronavirus COVID19 outbreak in China httpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscreatingunprecedentedcontainershippingdisruption20200221htmlThe domino effect of factory closures and other related supply chain disruptions stemming from the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID19 will have major downstream ramifications for container shipping demand equipment availability and rateshttpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscontainerimpactspreadfarbeyondblanksailings20200225htmlThe port of Hamburg expects trade in China to decline this year due to the corona virus The background to this is that numerous companies in China have now shut down their production or closed entire plants Gunther Bonz President of the Port of Hamburg Business Association estimates that up to 100000 fewer containers than previously thought will arrive in Hamburg from China in the coming monthshttpswwwndrdenachrichtenhamburgHamburgerHafenCoronavirusbeeintraechtigtChinaHandelcoronavirus178htmlPlus this videohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvzeufAHFZpjoGermany expecting major supply chain disruptionhttpswwwdwcomencoronavirusoutbreakhittinggermansupplychainswithfearsofeconomicparalysisa52554823|0 soo any news from Wuhan Personally Im very concerned about the situation related to supplies food medicals etcI live in Milan you know near to where the patient 0 started it all in ItalyIts just a personal feeling but Im a bit scared about the possibility that here it might become really serious like in Whuan I mean cities are all the same maybe Chinas metropolies are more polluted and overcrowded but the virus is also the same so I dont see why here in Milan it couldnt spread all over the city and make thousands of deaths considering also that the numbers in China are higher its fucking sick Im also scared about quarantine being trapped in a possible deadly place for idk how much time not knowing how it will evolve and knowing for sure that our social constructs are 90 inadequate for a pandemic both because of the govt and bc of the people I mean a lot of us are yet histeric markets have been plundered like if were in warI dont trust any government and any corporation they are all rich fuckers and can do whatever the fuck they want and I have this feeling that common people if it evolves in a really bad way are going to be abandonedAs were the first nation that can get true infos about this virus as were not behaving in a childish way like those dumbfucks of the chinese govt we together with Japan and SouthKorea are going to be the first place from which the entire world can get to know how the situation really is and will be without knowing if we have to freak out or to not worry too much What a fucking bad luck we had|0 He doesnt look good |0 Id be happy if the world just cut the USA off from everything Sorry to the good Americans but your leaders are pure scum of the earth|1 It would be rare for something to simultaneously become more infectious AND more deadlyIf it starts to kill more efficiently it will take out its hosts who are required to spread it|0 I believe LUSH is doing this as well|1 A few years ago I got seriously lost in the woods and could have died if I didnt find my way out After the initial wave of panic rolled over I remember this feeling of calm and steely resolve plus purpose I wasnt married at the time so my first thought went to my parents and my little brother I thought it would be so awful if I died this young and I couldnt do this to them I planned a route and found my way to safety within 24 hours This process is described in a fantastic book called Deep Survival Who Lives Who Dies and Why by Laurence Gonzales which looks into why some people survive and others dont One of the most important factors in surviving an extreme situation is to accept your circumstances and plan on the basis of emergency thinking Most people fail to do this and reassure themselves that everything will return to normal They fail to plan accordingly and that kills them Stoicism and acceptance of one circumstances is the FIRST and most important stepThe other step is meaning and purpose People need a purpose to live and survive When there is meaning any hardship can be endured This is laid out in an 80page book by Holocaust survivor and psychologist Victor Frankl Mans Search for Meaning Find what or WHO it is you have to live for Everyone has this person whether we realize it or not Deep Survival and Mans Search for Meaning are two fantastic books to read at this time|0 You have clearly shown the world the error of my ways The repercussions of this conversation will become legendUnless we all die from the virus|0 This is brilliant Theyll have to change it again if this gets memed|1 where did you get that info from and if you tell me to search it myself then your full of shit I havnt heard ANYTHING resembling that|0 I cannot find articles in English The English media ignored it Also it was the time Wuhan was the focus of mass media in general Anyway here are some articles in Japanese Hope it helpshttpswww3nhkorjpnewshtml20200127k10012260171000htmlhttpswwwnikkeicomarticleDGXLASFL27HTXX20C20A1000000httpswwwchunichicojparticlefeaturecoronaviruslistCK2020012802000295htmlhttpshonichicomnews20200128coronavirusinfection|1 TBF I have unused filters for them so those were new and my mom is a dr so its not like I walked in off the street but yea make some calls|0 Hell most schools in HK are closed too|0 Im disappointed that the gov didnt work fast enough to ensure that measures were put in place to ensure the family of 8 were quarantined immediately This issue should be raised during the next election|1 Might also be that the damage from smoking also makes it harder for initial penetration While more severe once receptors are locked on the receptors might be for lack of a better word more slippery|0 Needs more upvotes Its a great opportunity for the 1 to give back|1 If these were just studies sure larger sample size But since the risk of this being true far outweighs the risk of it being false why not just act as though its true just in case Unless youre trying to recruit people to be a part of that sample|1 Bill Gates redemption arc is strong dude was one of the biggest dicks in the world for a time|1 The world has to stop all transportation to try and stop this Everyone is discounting this statement Nothing will move for a while|0 Thats very normal No matter how much you hate kids being human means you have a natural degree of empathy towards them It keeps our species alive|0 Sorry but that is bullshit Its not a really feasible to put arm d guards at doors and shoot down people going out of their home Its also own responsibility to not want other people to dieA lot of companies and universities are taking measures if yours dont then maybe look at where you are working because its not the norm|0 Its helping me to realize who is dumb Its also funny to see how people have gradually shifted their tone from dont worry the flu is way worse to flatten the curve by washing your hands|1 will continue production through labor supply disruptionsProduction is one part but distribution is also a major factor If there is a shortage of truck drivers the food gets produced but not effectively distributedA food shortage is possible even with massive supplies of foods Food sitting in a warehouse or a shipyard or a railway depot may be relatively close but it has to get those last few miles to reach the bulk of the population|0 Just remember to stay positive and just keep thinking If youve got it your bodys going WTF is this Whose friends are these Theyre not our friends Weve never seen these dudes before Who are these guys They were not invited to the party Lets get rid of them We dont like em They suck Theyre boring And then when they leave well lock the doors so they dont come back So the best thing that you can do is help your body push the party crashers out the door and lock it so they dont come crashing the party again Feel better soon|1 Doing anything like that to prepare could make trumpski upset because it could cause the market to crash further Thats pretty much the gist of it|1 Thanks I have it America|1 My local CVS pharmacist was just diagnosed with coronavirus Upstate NY Interesting that its CVS thats decides to offer free delivery|1 As a born and raised texan unless theyre very drunk very rude or just dont care can confirmIts a rarity|0 This is an established historical pattern of epidemics most famously the Spanish Flu was far deadlier in the second wave|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 What the fuck are you even taking about|0 Yeah The government still does not take it too seriously|1 This subreddit is rife with them take all assertive statements on the nature of this virus its spread and its mechanics with a grain of salt unless solid sources are given along with the claims No discredit to the mod team they seem to be doing a great job at keeping the conspiracy nuts and alarmists at bay|0 TranslationNew coronavirus three suspected cases are monitored by the Ministry of HealthPublished Tuesday January 28 2020 644 pm Last updated on Tuesday January 28 2020 937 pmThe Ministry of Health informs that it has been notified until 5 pm on Tuesday 28 of two other suspected cases of the new coronavirus in Brazil Thus in total three suspected cases of the disease are monitored by the Brazilian health authorities They were notified in the states of Rio Grande do Sul and Paran in addition to the case of Minas Gerais reported on Tuesday morning 28 Patients met the current definition of a suspected case for nCoV2019 the new coronavirus established by the World Health Organization WHO that is they had fever and at least one respiratory sign or symptom and traveled to the local broadcast in the last 14 daysThe WHO has raised the alert level to high in relation to the global risk of the new coronavirus so the Ministry of Health advises that trips to China should be made in cases of extreme need With almost 3000 confirmed cases according to the WHO bulletin of January 27 the entire Chinese territory is now considered an area of active transmission of the diseaseFrom the Health AgencyPress service61 33153580 23512745|0 Look pal Im a capable professional with credentials that are equally as impressive as yours Cut the grass and use your IQ and EQ to solve some of these problems You are a clever man|1 I disagree Not true Same in KoreaThis is just an excuse not to do the same things in the West Life goes on almost as normal in these countries They arent locked down or controlled they just enacted most of the basic measures that the west didnt such as1 widespread use of masks2 banning large gatherings3 closing schools4 trace every single contact5 quarantine or isolate contacts with stiff penalties for noncompliance6 test a lotAll EU and UK havent done many or any of the above All those Asian countries with success have done most of the above In many cases people still go out daily to eat in restaurants Public transport works People are still working Economy is take a small hit but every government is helping with thatI wouldnt call the above social control Its just common sense But EU and UK dont have that not just governments but the whole establishment the opposition the media everyone Even the public who still shout masks dont work Idiots|1 Should nobody be attempting to solve any part of the problem unless they are able to come up with a solution that is able to fix everything at once|1 We have literally millions of kits and have tested less than tiny Korea does in a single dayNo biggie Huge win for the hard right when they will get out to vote and the Dems stupidly believe in science and logic instead of dictators and Jesus|1 Bloody Nora|0 Oh god i live in Washington and this just is worsening my anxiety|0 My dad is a doctor in Canada and at least at some point in the past a relatively high ranking medical administratorI asked him about this he told me he thought it wasnt that much of a threat and then started giving me its just the flu bro type stuffSo either theyre keeping the doctors in the dark or this is so bad that hes keeping me in the dark Probably the former|0 I disagree with the wartime totalitarian ideology because it isnt protecting the citizens but instead protecting the state and that is part of the reason we are in this situation|0 Buckle your seatbelts NYC This is about to get a whole lot worse|0 It is thouyou have deprived the poor of the food they need because of you irrationality|0 they are simply being jealous Also usually such people are too narrow minded to understand you literally are saving their lives|0 They really should start saying 15 people will die without intensive medical treatment instead of 80 is mild|0 Eat a dick Elon|0 Thanks you too|1 Yeah not sure how people could ignore what was going on The person I live with was trying to talk to their parents and warn them but they just wont take it seriously It boggles the mind Sorry people think you are freak People are too cozy or too in denial about all this that or plain too afraid to even acknowledge it So what do you do to keep busy|0 About damn time|0 Bro people are still laughing thats the problem Its a total joke to all my friends and coworkers Im not apocalyptic about it but I think everyone by now should know this is already a global catastrophe effecting millions of people and WILL cause major disruptions Not something to freak out over but understand its happening|0 Did you pay attention to the last 2 days Every sporting event in the country has been cancelledpostponed concerts and conferences are following suit even 3 states have closed schools|0 Hahaha|1 It would be a very severe flu to say the least Hospitals in Italy and Korea are already being overloaded|0 Part of the logic is to work out when will the public obey a quarantine People on this forum are concerned enough But we all know people that either do not care or are in denial Italy results are horrible and a few celebrity victims ill not necessarily dead and it will sink in The second problem is when does the quarantine end Do we shut down for a fortnight and then go back to contain Or are we shutting down sports cinema and restaurants until the end of May to see if it is temperature dependent|0 On Saturday US Health Officials announced that Homosexuality an abomination upon mankindIn a related announcement Mike Pence has quarantined himself in a bathroom stall at a DCArea rest stop He has refused to speak with press but has carved a waisthigh hole in the stall wall through which he is able to pass written messages|0 When MWC was cancelled the media was quick to mention that the Coronavirus fears were unfounded any call to action against the virus was labelled as fear mongeringits honestly really irresponsible|0 My friends a doc in London We were on the phone last night and she was saying how shes super disappointed that people arent taking this seriously Theyre preparing for the absolute worst in a weeks time with what they have but feels helpless because the public wont listen|0 Italian here dont trust the Chinese propagandaI have been reading a lot of news on international websites about how China is helping Italy and things like thatTake those news with a grain of salt China is not helping us they are justing making propaganda for their people All they did was sending 9 doctors and shipping masks that we had to PAY for No gifts no true donationsEdit to let you understand the level of propaganda when Conte talked to the nation announcing the complete lockdown China sent one of their journalists to make a question live|0 Hulu m8 definitely worth a watch|1 The medical workers wear the goggles to protect from infectious disease virus spread through eye Its quite common knowledge that virus can be spread through mucus membrane of the eye and if sputum is flying enough to inhale its going to attach to delicate eye tissue Touching of eyes add to this possibility Protect eyes|1 Damn it Why do I always see the spelling errors AFTER I post Sorry I swear Im not illiterate|0 It does mutation it has to do with the molecules on the virus can change as similar to how the common cold works which means our immune system wont recognize it as an intruderIf this holds true it is very bad Very very badThe virus can mutate both to worse and to better of course so hopefully Lady Fortuna is on our side|1 This article was published February 15th but is perhaps even more relevant now as we witness the spread of COVID19 across the globe If China had been more proactive earlier in the crisis it may have been contained|0 Youre a fucking moron|0 I bought a 24 pack of solid colored bandanas Its better than nothing I was relying on my dads masks that he gets for COPD but the pharmacy said they dont have anymore in stock Gotta conserve the few we have|1 Yep just had an email saying my daughters school had a bunch return from South Tyrol but theyre not shutting the school until everyone has it|1 Is it still possible to have heavy symptoms happening on a young healthy person Like high temp fever frequent coughs chest pain and very hard to breathe or does most young healthy people will get away with similar symptoms as a mild cold|1 Greeting from Beijing lol|1 when this is all over I hope we dont forget about this group of heros|1 Mongolians actually have the plague Bubonic plague is still active in rodents Mongolians eat I guess social distancing isnt a problem in Mongolia That and the plague isnt a virus so antibiotics|1 Great prediction about the conversation regarding health care|1 Is it really like this one tiny virus gets through and you get sick I always thought that viral load is an factor too|0 A bit of both They d up in the early stages fluffed the numbers but then bit a really bitter pill Id give them respect if they hadnt disappeared citizen journalists such as Chen Qiushi|1 If this buffoon someone gets reelected there needs to be a strong discussion about a cessation or civil war Going to be so ironic when all the weapons and nuclear arms we have produced and hoarded over the years wont be used on our enemies But rather the funds that produced them that could have been spent on the well being of our citizens did more harm than any other country or person|0 No they refused US resources only because Trump they receive help from other countries and collaborate with teh WHO|0 No |0 Please read more than just headlines the bill is very inadequatehttpswwwnytimescom20200314opinioncoronaviruspelosisickleavehtml|1 Store shelves are already barren Today hubby texted me a picture of the empty bread shelf with nothing left except a few seriously expensive like 12 loaves of Gluten and whatever free bread He said he could MAKE bread cheaper than what it would cost to buy those|1 This reminds me of how the EU handled mad cow disease Lots of finger pointing but refusing to test their own livestock until it was undeniable|0 Unbelievable they would withhold this info to begin with|1 Oh gosh Yes we all have that point I think where we say oh man what am I doing Im so sorry about your situation It sounds infinitely more challenging then mine Keep your spirits up |1 Im an RN When I oriented for my job I shadowed another nurse in the ER and one of our patients had meningitis scare They took our insurance info in case we needed treatment Patient ended up being negativeI was never seen by a medical professional and finished my shift Boom 250 bill|0 What are your stages I wouldnt buy alcohol though It reduces your immune system quite drastically|1 I hope S type spreads faster and gives us herd immunity from the deadlier L type|1 Theres plenty of getting fucked to go around no reason to compete|0 We in the west should and also emphasize how he fought the government to protect his own work colleagues and the nation|1 Thanks for the info I downloaded a different app like that one Now I can REALLY get worried|1 Im trying to discourage my relatives to avoid Friday prayer tomorrow and to stay inside Wash their hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds Today it was raining so most things were cancelled|0 Singapore was successful because they were on top of it Meanwhile in Indonesia we are seeing it ramp up|1 Yeah Hope it doesnt last that long|1 Possible 2 week delay during incubation period|0 I dunno this virus seems OK with violating peoples right to fucking breath You cant have it all folks|0 For now you can develop immunity to Coronaviruses after infection just like influenzaYes but how longlasting is the immunity For influenza the immunity can last nearly a lifetime For coronaviruses Much much shorter right Maybe a year|1 Same thing happened to my parents Actually we all think they had it But they wouldnt even test them for anything Their doctor said they had the flu and that was it They were at the same hospital and in the same city as one of the first people who got it here Guess well never know Thankfully they are recovered now2 weeks later|0 lol yes lets send them more pallets|1 US has 6 confirmed dead|0 The worst part about this thing is that it seems that people with strong immune systems have more severe symptoms and organ tissue damage due to their immune system attacking the body via inflammation overreactingI am still astounded that most governments are not telling their citizens anything if they knew what experts know and had access to a brief summary of what happens when to see a doctor or go to hospital they would give a shit I feel like theres going to be millions infected just due to being unaware of the permanent damage they assume its like a bad cold or flu but its not even comparable You dont need antivirals meant for ebola immune suppressants cancer treatment meds NSAIDs oxygen and ventilator and nearly guaranteed pneumonia due to the flu to prevent dying Let alone permanent damage to organs and infertility |0 same D hope your family is fine|1 They werent all elderly thought rightNo I saw via CNN that one had been as young as his 40s with no underlying conditions notedAs of now its 101 cases in the US with 6 deaths Thats a 594 fatality rate so farSure people can argue but it kills old people first but they forget that the strain that they imposed on the healthcare system leaves it progressively less able to care for those who remainhttpswwwcnncomasialivenewscoronavirusoutbreak030220intlhnkSearch for Washington A man in his 40s hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland has died The patient was the Snohomish County resident according to the Snohomish Health District|0 NO NOT THE BLACK GOD|0 i mean if it fits the definition of a pandemic i trust that its a pandemic|1 If this is true its absolutely disgusting|0 They would have big consumptionbut it is nothing about drinking at oncex200BIt could be a myth that we in Poland or people in Russia are insanely drunk all the time It is not We could probably drink at once more due to our genesbut majority is not drinking so muchAlcohol is heavily taxated and its prices are quite big in comparison to our sallaries Probably same is in Russia I suspect Koreans just drink small quantitiesbut often Or drink while eating then there is big difference|0 Rcoronavirus is a censored subreddit They are recommending people to go to rcoronavirus|0 My wife is a doctor in the US I cant explain our anxiety of whats to come|1 up towhen proven you are infected and cannot work xbased on contributions so not everyones getting nearly that amountjump through those loops go quebec go lol|0 No none at all I mean what the hell are they supposed to do I know I would have probably done it|0 Seems like he still is do you have a source for him being dead|0 So about 3 days for each case I felt our numbers were a bit low but this explains it|0 Happy cake day|1 Yeah Fuck the Astros|0 Wasnt there something on here a day or two ago that said smokers were less likely to catch it but worse off if they did|0 I feel like you dont understand politics very well He is obviously the worse candidate And I never argued otherwise My point is that Trump and Clinton being the candidates is a failing of the American people Democrats have this moral purity obsession and racialgender preoccupation that makes their policies hard to swallow by a large portion of Americans Trump didnt win because he was a good candidate He won because the democrats cant field a proper candidate The last good democratic potential nominee was John Edwards Since then theyve other been corporate shills or dreamers|1 Most people wearing masks are doing it for looks They certainly dont do it for preventing spread of anything Hardly anyone wears a mask properly right kind etc Mandatory boxing gloves would probably be better at keeping spread under control They are pretty good at preventing people from touching a musuous part of the body with their fingers|1 It is their jobThey dont usually do it but it is their goddamn job|0 I lead a religious group Weve been debating if we should even have 10 people getting together for stuff and pretty much deciding that its better to be safeThis is just mass irresponsible behavior|1 50000 people used to be Infected Now its much better|0 Hes a liar Im a physician and no one has ever given that order Besides hes opposed to the president and its not the first time he tells a fake news|0 Oh no were perfectly fine Well all fine here Situation normal Uh how are you httpseditioncnncomasialivenewscoronavirusoutbreak022220intlhnkh4913829eb72a895966588681c48cf45ehttpseditioncnncomasialivenewscoronavirusoutbreak022220intlhnkh4913829eb72a895966588681c48cf45e|1 Well look at thishttpsyoutubevLdwCdyiDCwIt looks like they have a large modified drone with a holding tank Im assuming it can spray Not sure if it was China or the Philippines but one of them has trucks driving the streets side by side spraying disinfectant out of large cannonsWhy go to extremes if it isnt necessaryI mean a drone Do they have a small squadron patrolling neighborhoodsWho knows but it be crazy if they did|0 stop blaming doctors we take our directives from the CDC can only speak on US but this was also based on WHO I cannot test patients even if I want to All testing has to be approved through an ID specialist who again has to follow the CDC algorithm for testing Essentially without relevant travel history or contact with a known carrier of COVID19 you can only be tested for it if you have SEVERE symptoms which typically means you are in an ICU|0 Singapore did well even during SARS They handled liers and those who do not follow rules of quarantineisolation at least during SARS with strict but reasonable rules|1 I keep saying this but people dont care They wont until it directly effects them By then its to late for some|0 I remember the hour of hanging out with my dad back when did ohioct trips 3xwk Those were the best times|1 heh the virus continues to live inside the infected in shanghai There is a large mass of infected but the virus is dormant inside The moment it finds a willing host it explodes out and spreads further mutating and killing If Shanghai lifts any of its restrictions the virus will accelerate away and the whole city will shut down again The actual CFR is around 1020 but the deaths are being hidden by the government Just be careful do not trust what the government says Also Westerners need to keep away from China Enough of this interracial shit|0 Im in the scientific field myself I recognise many of these names there are some well respected scientists on this list I stick by my original statement that its good to see scientists from many backgrounds coming together|1 Yeah I know Im not worried for myselfIssue is Im a late child My dad is 60 and diabetic My grandma is 92 My mom used to have cancer not sure if that is an at risk thing and my brothers an avid smokerThat and Im having to quarantine even though I dont carry the virus which is sort of depressing But and feel free to slap me I REALLY wanted to take this one girl to dinner on Prom nightToo bad this isnt an anime where I can singlehandedly body slam this virus|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Oh god I feel for you|1 I used the corona to destroy the corona|0 Haha At least you didnt have the worlds biggest and most unnecessary air guitar jam like WA Fuck me|1 He survived the Spanish Flu the first time hell be okay|0 You quarantine places that have the virus so they left an area that is highly infected to go spread it around|0 Youre arguing that wearing a mask improperly is just as functional as wearing it properly Seriously That people go through this kind of traininghttpsimgurcomgalleryjc9v4mh for no good reason because any old way they want to wear it works perfectly fine I think youre the one making an extraordinary claim here|1 Do you think the Trump administrations decision to ignore the virus in the early weeks will cause thousands of people to die|0 Wow I had no idea thanks for this My dad has mild asthma and is also allergic to paracetamol Would aspirin be ok|1 WCGW electing an administration thats entirely apathetic to anything that doesnt directly earn them money|0 If ICUs become overwhelmed it would likely raise to 20|1 No This is not something that they had too do be grateful about a news companies generously regarding something totally unrelating their business|1 Please end the open office concept I have to fight waves of noise each day at the office and its just not necessary is itMaybe we wont rely so much on manufacturing goods from other countries and will instead focus more on manufacturing and producing in our own country for our own peopleIf that happened though wed have to deal with the logistics of production plant waste and resources to make things What I really hope is that Canadians start remembering that the Government has a duty to protect and serve the people and that we will be holding the government to that The slow response our government had will cost lives and weve had ample warning Screening should have been tightened back in January PSAs about this early and often could have really helped citizens mobilize and deal with this a little more rationally than getting into brawls over toilet paper Oh and the budget cuts were exactly the wrong thing to do when it comes to keeping the peoples health and safety in mind We all already knew how many boomers there are and that healthcare would have to increase to help an aging majority not to mention our population is still growing where was the logic in cutting healthcareSo in the long run I hope COVID brings awareness in the glaring holes in our government most of all|1 Ive gotten at least silver on each type of disease and gold on about half of them Everyone has their own strategy thats part of what makes the game fun|1 Great now maybe they could donate all the ones they confiscated that were over the limit until today|1 Yup ElErian has done the best interviews IMHO Those videos got pulled by the mods why Who knows All coronavirus subs have mod flu|1 Same shit here in russia Maps show we have few of cases In fact there are thousands of them|0 I am SOO ready to take up arms and shed the blood of these Heads of Corporations Just give me the means and tell me where to stand|1 Ideally for the infection to truly die offWhy does everyone talk like quarantine does kill of the virus Thats not true As soon as the quarantine does stop the spread begins again since theres still no vaccine and probably not before 2021 and no herd immunityEven if you put the whole world for months into quarantine it just needs a couple of missed cases to get this whole shit started again after the quarantine is lifted And somewhere are some animals carrying the virus too Good luck on finding those|0 We also didnt have penicillin or any of modern medicine keeping dooming doomer|0 I know but its hard to say until we do mass amounts of tests|0 Why does 43 of Americans think hes doing a good job on the covid19 crisis If he has cought it from his cronies at that conference we may get quicker help People get tunnel vision on problems that effect thier own health|0 Im a Trump supporter too Just hearing him compare the virus to the flu made me feel dissatisfied I wish the US was transparent like Singapore and South Korea|1 As a very small shareholder of a few companies I recognize that the risk of the media running a story about how a Chipotle employee spread the virus to 100 people because Chipotle didnt make a temporary PTO policy is not worth the potential slight EPS what 002share increase that may result from Chipotle not having to pay some of its employees while theyre sick|0 Same here I am now wondering if this type of complication is present only in severe cases or in patients with mild symptoms as well|0 Oh an hours pay Yay|1 From the FDA websiteThe N95 designation means that when subjected to careful testing the respirator blocks at least 95 percent of very small 03 micron test particles If properly fitted the filtration capabilities of N95 respirators exceed those of face masks However even a properly fitted N95 respirator does not completely eliminate the risk of illness or deathhttpwwwfdagovmedicaldevicespersonalprotectiveequipmentinfectioncontroln95respiratorsandsurgicalmasksfacemasksCoronavirus is smaller than 03 microns In fact its about 012 microns in size or smaller 100120 nm Do you have a reputable source for your claims|0 Thats the fuckin thingSince the start one of the main conversations was that they didnt want to cause panic its not that bad and people are overreactingYet now they have completely switched their tone and are urging the powers of the world to urge their citizens to be more awareLike what the fuck If they from the start told us what the fuck was up we wouldnt be having these issuesShit has been handled so extremely horribly and now well have more people that are going to lose their lives because of it|0 its quite clever Antactica has no permanent residents so this means the virus can never be official affect it|1 One thing I learned from this is I never plan on smoking again Thats assuming I make it out of this alive Probably being way overly dramatic here but Ive been on edge|1 What I dont get is why public health officials keep blaming the public for buying masks Are hospital administrators going out to home depot to buy masks or something Is there not some national or regional supply line dedicated solely to health care workersNot to mention this slow rolling train crash has been occurring for over 3 months The gov and administrators really dropped the ball here by not hoarding the masks for their nurses and doctors ahead of time Now that SHTF I really do hope that you are able to get more supply Stay safe|1 Lets get real They destroyed the world and our future|0 German efficiency|1 Oh my Yunnan is supposed to be one of the safer province since Xi was there If you are seeing such terror already imagine what it is like Wuhan|1 dude lying to his people is pretty much his thing for whatever reason brazilians dont seem to mind it on a large scale there are resistance pockets but god damn he is a liar|0 Im avoiding takeout places for the time being|0 Since people probably only read the headline this study of 1100 cases indicates a less deadly disease136 but a scary one nonetheless Hoping that this correction continues to trend down as we get studies of cases that have a wider range of severity Wrong your not accounting for Outstanding results 10291099 are STILL in the HospitalIF we took your logic someone Could get thrown off a helicopter and if you reported the survival rate at 100 while they still are in the sky You clearly wouldnt receive the accurate survival rateLook at the original study on first 41 patients closest study to ACTUAL survival of those in hospitals not that hospitalization rate is roughly 178 according to WHOAdmitted Dec 1 Dec 31 As of Jan 22nd 146 Died 641 With the best medical care and not over run hospitals 17 741 were STILL receiving care Assuming all others lived a 146 death rate in hospital 178 hospitalization rate 259 Death rate We obviously need more data however this report was somewhat biased in that it did not highlight the number of outstanding cases which is obviously very high|0 He presumably hasnt actually sold the relevant stock so the capital gains havent been realized If Bill Gates actually tried to fully divest from Microsoft the stock would plummet and his net worth would go down massively which would be a longrun decrease in the amount of money he could ultimately donate|1 I did not vote for DeWine but I have to say Ive never been more proud of our Governor than I am right now Watching Trumps response to this has been concerning at best Its so comforting to know that some real voices of leadership have emerged My parents are in their 60s smokers and would not stay home if they werent forced to Mike DeWine is helping to save their lives|1 The number of recovered will continue to increase Since it takes 14 days for people to be declared recovered theres a big lag between when someone is confirmed vs when theyre recovered The people that are recovering now probably contracted it 34 weeks ago|1 I live in Seattle Wa Thats happening here too Sorry that happened to you|0 Why so negative Any drastic measure is good to slow down the virus and we knew for a while that the spreading of this one was gonna be big I think this is actually good news|1 How unfortunate that people are depending on this privately run business that spirals one single dude to the top1 of wealth rankings instead of a collectively owned ie socialized organization in which theyd have the ultimate say |1 Lockdown would be a useful form on containment though it seems unlikely that the political will to implement that exists|1 Ive had him completely isolated for about 25 weeks now and the two weeks before that had him fairly well distanced from people But I still worry a lot about me giving to him if I were to be asymptomatic I work from home so it isnt too difficult to quarantine myself as well but I have been to the grocery store Ive been cleaning religiously and will take your advice about the gloves Fortunately we already had some masks If he gets it hell probably die and thats ok because he hasnt really been alive in a long time I just dont want him to die quarantined in a hospital without me and hope I can prevent him from getting it at least until later in the year|0 Well my kid is a type 1 diabetic soall of this is stressing me out|0 the difference is they cant express their actual feelings without risking harsh punishments this in itself should be a BIG clue something seriously sneaky is going on Yes China has a rep for this type of authoritarian regime but when its surrounding a global health crisis it makes it the problem of people worldwide not just Chinese citizens|0 Or panics the economy into staling and ultimately fails to contain an uncontainable virus|0 The odds are better with the survival of humans The sun will swallow this planet one day|1 Corrected Thanks|1 Thats obviously the reason The governements want to make sure masks are available for healthcare professionnal It is not a bad move per se We are seing how much people can panic and herd for no reason like for toilet paper|1 Or sometimes it just takes bone headed folks manning the checkpoints For a while the guys outside my place in Shanghai were getting all up in the business of anyone entering or exiting by footDriving your car Come on through no temperature check or anything|0 Its going according to the Japanese governments plan If the passengers get evacuated they no longer count against Japans infection numbers Full speed ahead to Olympics 2020|0 I personally think it would accomplish the same goals as wearing a surgical mask and I plan to use them But people may think youre going to rob them|0 Dont know why I laughed|0 Im keeping mine off Better safe then sorry innit|1 Yeah doesnt make sense or does it Shame people trying to contain the disease increase chances of infecting more Meanwhile they collude with big pharma on the sidelines|1 Hey man Am from a place similar like this Good thing about the pacific is a lot of islands are generated from volcanoes therefore the soil is super fertile Realistically its not too hard to farm your own crops there and as long as you have water and shelter your good A lot of fish near by to go fishing so its not too bad|1 That makes even more sense Thank you|1 Mild temperature increase is a clinical sign not a symptom The symptom of fever is chills aches etc It might be a reason for the thermometer picking up cases where people felt perfectly fine ie asymptomatic|1 God Bless Korea There I said it|1 Ok have you ever run a team of horses or seen it on TV in a western or whatever Blinders thats what they put on the sides of a horse near his eyes to where he cant see whats off to his right or off to his left he can only look straight ahead But I thought your objection had to do with numbers of a certain country I guess you could limit it to so many responses per country and then cut it off But then there would be objections to more males than females or maybe more politicians than citizens I dont know when we get to discriminating it knows no bounds So Ill leave my part at this end so the people who are looking for medical advice wont get too carried away with having to read all of this But I look forward to your final response Taikuu|0 This is asymptomatic for like half of people who get it This is not known It is suspected but not known Someone tried to do a study based on the Diamond Princess You can read the study httpseurosurveillanceorgcontent10280715607917ES202025102000180 Quoting the important bit The posterior median estimate of the true proportion of asymptomatic individuals among the reported asymptomatic cases is 035 95 credible interval CrI030039 with the estimated total number of the true asymptomatic cases at 1133 95CrI9821283 and the estimated asymptomatic proportion among all infected cases at 179 95CrI155202Basically 1520 of cases are asymptomatic according to this modelling|1 Good luck USAFrom Europe|1 Richard Branson asks for government money to help his airline and makes his staff take 8 weeks unpaid leave His net worth 41 billion Boris should say fine we will help but once your net worth gets down to 10m or 50m Nobody need more than that|1 Thats stuff they would have on hand in case any conflict breaks out regardless of how incompetent the president is If you can have remote bases on the other side of the world with medical support you can have it domestically|1 I think the conspiracy isnt that it was a bio weapon but that it escaped the Bsl 4 lab in Wuhan and China tried to cover it up I personally dont believe it but people are pointing to research like this that was being conducted in WuhanhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4797993|1 If you want something done right do it yourself|1 Im German My people have not understood how serious this is and do not practice social distancing enough to be effective Still our government wont issue a lock down and I have no idea why|1 Buy a gun|0 Dude no one compared it to bombs and bullets|0 Just dont test anyone Then the number well not go up|1 At this point I rather take WWIII than keep on placating and appeasing China by pretending its a responsible power in the global system|1 As a Malaysian I can honestly tell you yes|1 Western ideals will fuck us|0 Middle class whats left of it in NYS already paying 35 in taxes do not want to pay moreYou are not middle class if your effective tax rate is 35 even in NYS That would mean you are making nearly 200k And also your tax amount would not change under Bernies plan unless you are making over 250k in which case you are very definitely not middle classhttpswwwgooglecojpsearchqbernietaxplanrlz1C1WPZAensxsrfALeKk02SBK4JcoM4GTyZZ7cSYCHMYbw1582592857777sourcelnmstbmischsaXved2ahUKEwiFovLowevnAhWFLqYKHcYfA5oQAUoAXoECA4QAwbiw1349bih660imgrcazD0qh0O3jJdpM I apologize for the shitty link this sub doesnt allow the Reddit link shortener apparently|1 This Exactly what I was telling a friend today|1 Yeah because everyone in China is wearing them|1 Over 90 of Americans have health insurance Its law now that even shitty plans need to cover for vaccines when indicated Many community health dept can tell you where to free or low cost vaccines|0 I have a friend who just opened a gymstudio last summer Even after our state demanded shut downs of all fitness centers today he still decided to keep his open but just really ramp up the cleaning and reduce class size to 12 people He says he literally cant afford to close since the business has only been breaking even so far But that if he closes he hopes people keep paying their membership as a kind of charity to keep him afloat I feel terrible for the situation hes in but never in my life have I wanted to shake someone so badly for their short sightedness He has diabetes for crying out loud The problem is all these assholes on social media making fun of people who are worried and all the over reactions I truly believe its perpetuating an attitude that this isnt serious and the shut downs are just a friendly suggestion|0 Thats incredibly interesting actually|1 Exactly even the kids that did get it reportedly had a MUCH easier time than the adults I havent heard of any dying yet at all|1 In Asia most people are taking it seriously and there are plenty of mask wearers now Im due to be back in UK soon and it will be interesting to see how it differs there Agreed that it should be taken seriously and protocols should be followed especially for people who have been travelling Me and my wife will definitely be self monitoring for any fever or flu like symptoms before when and after flying It would be great also if countries have dedicated coronavirus hotline|1 They denied testing him because he had no travel history Absolutely disgusting Canada the country of compassion strikes again|0 I have a PhD in biology so this is my professional advice but this is Reddit so you can take what i say with skepticism and I will understandI get it Its a disease that is causing a lot of panic Its more deadly than the flu I also get that But keep in mind this is a novel virusSo to get an effective testing kit we need to first get a genome of the virus This takes a fuck ton of time to do but we got that in a week which is mind blowingly fast Now you have to create an effective way to isolate the RNA from the virus itself Unlike DNA RNA is extremely easy to degrade and yes inconclusive results can occur So you need to create an effective way to isolate RNA from the nose mouth etc Now you have to get it to a lab where they have the proper testing and machines available to test This takes training and time to get the new assay up and running but the CDC is so underfunded that it needs to pack up its agency and send people to all 50 states to get the testing done I understand your frustration but keep in mind its more complicated than just a few tests A lot goes into it especially man hours that are behind the scenes that a lot of people may not see I promise that these agencies are trying their best but we didnt foresee this coming and we are doing the best we can given the available info we get|1 Yes and none of this makes it part of the Govt timeline as OP is claiming Just Matt Hancock moving his mouth whilst noises come out of itBasically these steps remain possible for the UK govt as they remain possible for any other government But closing the schools for example is as much an official part of the timeline as a mass cull of Giraffes or ginger people at presentAlso fun fact buying up all the private beds in the UK would add 0009 to the healthcare capacity per capita of the UK None of these beds are ICU beds|1 No one will need pensions at this rate all the olds are dying|0 Where have you read that high levels of exposure have killed healthcare workers Link it|0 Can anyone even read the article with their insane popupsWhat a shit site|0 There will be a second wave its rooted into the middle east and soon will be in much of the third world and Europe They havent stopped shit and the only way to avoid a second wave is to remain closed off until a viable vaccine is found which will be months at least|1 Game Changer Coronavirus infant tests positive just 30 hours after birth Child in stable condition as case raises concern of transmission in the womb Dormant patients can transmit virus and mild cases should be quarantined Chinese health authorities sayDaily deaths caused by the new coronavirus have reached yet another record high in China with 65 fatalities all in Hubei province confirmed in overnight figures released by health authorities The newly reported fatalities took the death toll in mainland China to 490According to data released on Wednesday morning by Chinas National Health Commission NHC confirmed cases around the country rose by 3887 also a daily record high to 24324 the majority of which were in Hubei the epicentre of the outbreakCases of the novel coronavirus in Hubei rose by 3156 to 16678 according to provincial figures as of midnight on Tuesday Almost 2000 of those new cases were confirmed in Hubeis capital of Wuhan where the virus is believed to have originated at a seafood and meat marketNewborn tests positiveAn infant in Wuhan has reportedly tested positive for the coronavirus just 30 hours after birth raising concerns that the infection could be contracted in the wombCiting sources from the citys childrens hospital state broadcaster CCTV reported that two infants were infected with the virus the youngest just 30 hours oldThe mother of the newborn was a confirmed patient of the coronavirus At present the infants vital signs are stable the report saidLunar NewsletterZeng Lingkong a senior physician at the hospitals neonatal department said the case was a signal that we should be concerned about the possible new transmission route of the coronavirusZeng said pregnant women should stay away from infected patientsThe Wuhan Childrens Hospital had set aside an area to treat pregnant women with suspected symptoms the report saidAsymptomatic transmittersChinese health authorities have identified a number of patients who have become carriers and transmitters of the coronavirus despite showing no outward symptoms of the diseaseLi Xingwang chief infectious diseases expert at Beijing Ditan Hospital said most of the dormant carriers were related to and had caught the virus from patients with symptomsThese carriers have the virus and can transmit it The amount of virus correlates to the severity of the illness which means these patients carry less of the virus and their ability to transmit disease is weaker Li saidIn new treatment and diagnosis guidelines released on Wednesday the National Health Commission said people with milder symptoms such as fever fatigue a cough but no lung infection should be quarantined and treated to curb further infectionsThe guidelines also said airborne and digestive tract infections were other possible modes of transmission after traces of the coronavirus were found in patients faecesLi said the two modes were still only possible routes and further investigation was needed to confirm them|0 And the patient asks upon leaving Do you think it would be ok if I stop at the grocery store and Walmart on my way home The clinic employee says Ummm just make it quick should be ok You had two negative tests Maybe just choose one of the stores to stop at until we get the last result back Just to be on the safe side|0 Get yourself 50 pounds of rice flour pinto beans a gallon of cooking oil and some baking powder you have 6 months worth of bean and rice burritosDefinitely gonna need some hot sauce with those burritos though Ima head to Taco Bell and stock up on free packets Thanks for this tip|1 Crap you just reminded me I should get some more charcoal|0 BREAKING NEWS WHO Announces new updated levels of official epidemic to pandemic levels after the Threat of Pandemic Very Real level Pandemic is inevitable will be upgraded to Pandemic is inevitable Level I Pandemic is inevitable Level II Pandemic is inevitable Level III Pandemic at any day now will be upgraded to Pandemic at any day now Level I Pandemic at any day now Level II Pandemic at any day now Level IIIPandemic at any hour now will be upgraded to Pandemic at any hour now Level I Pandemic at any hour now Level II Pandemic at any hour now Level IIIPandemic at any minute now will be upgraded to Pandemic at any minute now Level I Pandemic at any minute now Level II Pandemic at any minute now Level IIIPandemic at any second now will be upgraded to Pandemic at any second now Level I Pandemic at any second now Level II Pandemic at any second now Level IIIPandemic|0 Your shortness of breath and tightness in chest sounds serious and indicative of pneumonia so I agree with other poster you need to go to another hospital ER It doesnt sound like a panic attack because the shortness of breath is lasting so long The other symptoms of headache extreme fatigue dry cough and diarrhea are consistent with coronavirus but also influenza but influenza doesnt usually have diarrhea Sore throat suggests streptococcus something else they can check for and which needs treatment But your SOB is a threshold symptom if you are having that you need to be seen in ER and they need to take this seriously They would be crazy not to treat you under these circumstances|0 Hmm sounds like socialism And socialism bad|0 Covid19 has the higher estimates at 3 with one highly controversial and isolated study putting it at 4467 The vast majority of studies either put it at 2025 or have revised it down to that figure The flu has an R0 of 13 yearround but its a seasonal virus meaning the R0 rapidly changes depending on which month it is During flu season the R0 rapidly rises to potentially depending on the strainsituation extremely high levels Im talking like 10 of an entire population infected in just 5060 days kind of high R0 levels The rest of the year the R0 is mostly below 1|0 If you want independent news out of China read CaixinVPNs are being attacked but mine has been up and running for around ten days now Well see how long that lastsThings are still pretty surreal over here Everyone in mask Rush hour traffic maybe a third of what it usually is Planes landing in Shanghai are sitting at the gate for up to seven hours as the customs people check the passenger lists As of yesterday only two or three provinces have announced when school will start up again And I think only high schools and middle schools will be openingDoubt the numbers But there is a very real effort going on here Social distancing works|1 I am in australia The government has already said that anyone whether citizen or visitor can get free medical care for covid19 Also I just checked number of beds and australia has about 98k cf canada that has 57k This seemed amazing given au has 25million and canada 35million peopleI tried to manipulate your numbers for Australia but it isnt working Can you add that page to your info|1 Containment is an ideal Mitigation is far more likely Containment means 100 basically contained Its also possible this wont be contained but it doesnt mean that its going to spread everywhere indefinitely|1 Why are people buying so much fucking toilet paper Is it seriously because theyre scared of a such long quarantine or some shit|0 Not all maths are faster in a GPU but a lot are From crypto mining to distributive computing projects to cracking hash codes the GPUs will outperformEven an old GPU will tend to blow a CPU away in the applications that optimize for themSince CPUs are general computing usually it works out that these repetitive processes can be offloaded to the GPU for much more performanceIts kind of like specialization of labor The GPU isnt good at everything but what I can do it can do much faster than a CPU|1 Someone famoushttpsiimgurcomci3Q9fpjpg to get it and be very sick or die Unfortunately|0 Michigan is closed too Ninja edit just saw they were on the original list Whoops|1 Apologies link correctedBasically 70 rubbing alcohol should do the job if the surface is kept wet for 30 seconds same for 02 bleach solution in waterkeep surface wet for 30 seconds Hydrogen peroxide at 05 for one minute Everything elsetakes longer Remember these results are NOT specific to 2019nCoV but to selected similar viruses Dr Fauci said today that NIH is doing research on 2019nCoVs persistence on surfaces right now and they should have those results soon|1 US workers have a right to refuse any work that they believe will cause them serious harm or death This includes nurses and exposure|0 Germany is pretty good with testing at the moment and diligently following the clustersThis might change as this spreads but in preparation for this they gave the ability to test to as many laboratories as possible|1 Exactly The tanking of the market recently is obviously showing this is what happened They are protecting the politicians and lobbyists until they get all the money out before the market collapse|0 I will be messaging you in 9 days on 20200215 002424 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202002152000242420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentseyy27yweneedtostartbanningtravelsfromthailandfgkcc4mcontext32 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Feyy27y2Fweneedtostartbanningtravelsfromthailand2Ffgkcc4m2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020021520003A243A2420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120eyy27yInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Virus Its already collapsing Tokyo hospitals|0 It is not the people but the system that is corrupt Many of the officials in the CCP were once the brightest students in China But everyone is prone to be affected by their surrounding environment After years of suffering through the CCP Bureacratuc bullshit you start to buy into the the rhetorics and start to see it as the norm Next thing you know you become part of the system The ppl you see in power are probably the capable ones but trained and introduced by the wrong system|0 I advised a co worker to stock up on her meds as there will be shortages and I know she takes a lot of prescriptions but she is not concerned|0 I seriously said this to my friend yesterday|1 Yeah its bonkers but the longer we can hold off washing towels in the sink after wiping the better lol Nobody knows how long well be held up in quarantine conditions as this is unprecedented in living memory I dont blame people for preparing to be honest but they should have started in January instead of waiting till the last minute and wiping out shelves|1 4 weeks ago Trump formed a Coronavirus Task Force httpswwwtheepochtimescomtrumpadministrationformscoronavirustaskforce3221590htmlGiven what weve gotten from the CDC thus far he should have fired them all The WHO should certainly all be imprisonedJust because a Federal agency exists doesnt mean they actually do anything In fact oftentimes the opposite is true as were seeing now Welcome to clown worldPlease remember this when next you vote for more government programs|1 Yes I agree its a tradeoff However this tradeoff doesnt value resilience appropriately in my opinion|1 I read several days ago that the USA stockpile of masks was 30 to 35 million with an additional 5 to 7 million expired ones I dont remember the exact number They had all sorts of medical supplies stockpiled but of course not near enough I am aware of three companies in the USA that make masks not sure exactly what models 3M a company in Fort Worth TX and Alpha Pro Tech Ltd actually Canadian|1 Amazon needs to do the same for all the warehouse workers and delivery drivers|1 Adding to this for mild cases the advice is to self isolate at home Thinking pragmatically there is no point wasting resources by testing people to determine if theyre infected if the advice remains the same|0 If only wed known about this virus for a couple of months we couldve prepared|1 Uh was there a bit of a mistranslation Is it an actual ban or a forced quarantine for 14 days I see conflicting reports|0 It is literally noted as a symptom in the first US patient who was since discharged dont listen to that guy and stay safe brother Rooting for you|1 The majority of kids ave mild symptoms There is still a 01 death rate among them|0 Im struggling with this One night Im explaining my concern and getting a good reaction and equal concern while educating somebody close to me about why Im worried the next day they were joking about it and spouting off all the common misconceptions Honestly at this point I hope I am just being paranoid and my concerns are misplaced|1 Seriously Gotta update my vocab then|0 Yes|1 Yes it seems unlikely|1 It stops virus replication via zinc ionophore|0 You think this shits slowJust wait until we have to depend on governments to crack down on AI once we hit the singularity|0 America is 300 million people so 34 would be 10 million dead Thats equal to the entire population of metro Los AngelesAlso that 34 number assumes good care rather than rationed care If the country is poor without enough supplies and doctors start dying off that rate could double or triple 30 million Americans dead Thats more than the population of Texas China and India are roughly 14 billion so 34 Chinese is more like 45 million people Being less prepared than China and more Western in attitudes India could be looking at 140 million dead Thats more than the population of JapanSo yes its right to impose quarantine like that|0 Kentuckiana here Closed schools restaurants and bars Stores are still open but largely deserted unless youre at a grocery store Grocery stores are picked clean Im a city employee at an animal shelter and we had a meeting today about the eventual public closure and how we will divide up the employees into teams to assure there will be people to care for the animals Ill be very surprised if we are not closed to the public by the end of the week|1 Agreed Coronavirus has been known about since November This administration has completely whiffed on this crisis until the past couple of daysI am not only blaming Trump but his administration that he is ultimately responsible for has made this catastophre magnitudes worse Trump was saying people couild even go into work sick a week and a half agoA complete joke and now we are months behind and still not caugt up to speed truly frustrating|0 I relate to this so much I stocked up on foodsupplies as soon as we heard China started locking down provinces so now I dont have to stand in lines full of desperate sick peopleI am so relieved|0 Exactly They have much more of a community mentality where is we are much more selfish|0 Okay so then all these people saying not to wear a mask wouldnt the N95 mask protect your nasal passage|1 Everything you mentioned have already been in place in Wuhan before the lockdown On the 20th Jan when there were only 219 diagnosed cases Wuhan government took the decision to convert drafted 61 fever clinics including 7 hospitals to be used exclusively for coronavirus patients The hospitals were notified on the 21th afternoon and were told to finish conversion by the 23rd The 7 hospitals were immediately saturated with patients as it was high flu season It was on the same day that the government decided to stop all public transportation inside and heading out of the city The highways were not blocked at first it took another day or so before there was truly a lockdown in placeThe number of designated fever hospitals increased from 7 to 24 one week later The ban all unauthorized vehicles from the city center come in force on the 26thIts very important to realize that the lockdown was not planned in advance and only put together in a matter of days after the situation rapidly deteriorated The number of diagnosed patients went from a couple hundred to over 2 thousands in a week With proper planning and experience China would have done much betterCanada is the most iconic example of how a rich democracy would fail under similar circumstances with its botched handling of SARS I would encourage you to read more on that storyAlso already back in January Ontario announced that there wont be any Chinastyle lockdown even if the COVID19 gets here Right now they are still in full denial and telling people that its just a common cold with a small chance of more serious symptoms such as difficulty breathinghttpsimgurcomgalleryMTrAJOYBeing efficientinefficient is not an inherent feature of a democracy or any form of government That China can pull off a massive lockdown doesnt automatically mean Russia or North Korea can The US can be both very efficient at collecting taxes and lousy at tracking down illegal immigrants I dont know if you followed the COPPA controversy but thats an example of a democracy enforcing unpopular laws in the name of public interest|1 They helped fund Hitler politically and helped create the gas used to kill millions of Jews during the holocaust|0 Family visits mean contraband coming in Someone is unhappy about losing money|0 Yeah but now there could have been stricter measures taken No social events bars get closed and so on Mainly just put a break to all luxury activity Basically just what Italy has done now in the specific regions But this could just have been started two weeks earlierHowever I am not sure if this were the right way to go If those measures would have been anounced too early ie without any spreading in the local neighborhood then people might have started to revolt against it and the effect might have been that the discipline of people would be much lowerIn theathralic termsGovernments do now have the job to ride in the right way the powerful horse of public fearLast but not least The very same thing as with climate crisis just on a much bigger temporal scale there|0 Actually it was bureacracy not FDACLIA control the introduction of any test into the United States AND CDC controlled the testing for this AND CDC lost a bunch of its A team in the lab over the last two years due to Well read the news on cuts to preparedness I heard Gov Cuomo doing an interview where he was questioning either FDA or CDC and he noted they told him but we have the best tests and he said something like where Our entire medicationdevicetesting regime is designed to take years to get anything approved where you have to meet unbelievable criteria involving millions of dollars just to get something anything approved Now that is good in a society that will sue you for hot coffee but NOT GOOD in an emergency Oh and it is all run by scientists Thats great but they set such high standards that they cannot meet them themselves The US has done lots of planning but not for emergency introduction of testing apparently Public health was ready to goand testing is like the rifle a a soldier needs to fight with AND the bureaucracy says but the rifle isnt perfect yet so you have to wait While private companies have their testing locked and loaded and ready to go and CDC says no you have to use our test So its a bit more complicated than what you said Oh we could have likely had Singapores tests INCLUDING their antibody tests serologic tests so we would have had a rifle AND a knife in the fight but no ours are not ready yet And guess what The virus dont care|1 WhY aRe tRuMpErS eVeN hErE This sub isnt about politics its about the fucking coronavirus Maybe the downvotes came because people arent here to read dumbass comments crying about Trump|0 At least the Brexit tomato shortage if any will seem like nothing after this|1 doesnt really help much Did they smoke in the past Did they live in an area with air pollution How much sleep did they get recently etc|0 It just must be done One of many many problems we are about to face and these problems will literally grow exponentially in scale Think about it as a war footing We are currently at war but I have a feeling many people dont know it yet|0 Top 3 steel manufacturers in the world are China India Japan|1 A handful of casesYou must have pretty big hands when Singapore alone has 77 and Diamond Princess has 454|1 If power stops water will stop Eventually You dont know what will happen just like I dont know what will happen Hell a month ago if you had told me that there would be all of these quarantines and potential martial law happening I wouldnt have believed you Do you know something I dont about our water supply|0 I get my kicks above the waistline sunshine|1 As an Israeli The moment they try to quarantine a large amount of Israelis this shit is going to spread like fire I bet a large chunk of those high schoolers in isolation are out in public right now disregarding the mandates treating it like vacation Unless theyre in a system that forbids exit from Israel I bet theyll continue to fly to Europe for their Passover holidays too Absolutely no one here is going to respect the rules much of the population is very selfabsorbed and cannot think past the tip of their nose|0 Must keep those rally going on before the election Can always blame a bad flu year|0 Taking needed precautions on a consistent basis is alarmist Sounds more like being proactive to me In times of war do we just throw untrained soldiers out into combat No we meticulously train them and make sure they have all the resources they need to thrive under the worst conditions Unreal We do the same with healthcare only reactive not proactive Preparation is always easier than mitigation|1 Porn is a mind cancer and will pervert you until you become a monsterEat fast food watch porn dont stock pile supplys and DONT BUY MASKS Everything will be ok|0 Shouldnt someone come out and say PM will be here soon or something Its getting awkward lol|1 This is like a truck driving through the living room wall 2008 was finding out the entire foundation was rotten The thing is depending on how much the truck fucked up the actual integrity it could be comparable Or it could be just very striking at a glance but mostly cosmetic Only time will tell but it seems unlikely it will be as bad|0 I believe you but source English or German is fine|1 To be fair it didnt sound like hoarding They even said they were providing supplies for their workplace which is actually a pretty socially responsible gesture As for the masks my partners entire family is in medicine and I certainly know that medical supplies are in shortage from their first hand accounts I still dont think its inappropriate for certain people to use them if they a going to be in extra risky situations or are high risk and unable to isolate fully|1 No Ive heard many theories from various experts scientists health professionals etc but never seen any credible source that actually knew what it was Which is a bit crazy Maybe the information is out there but its definitely not well known yet|0 Is this message approved by Mike Pence|1 Its never required folks can make their own bad decisions And as weve seen for thousands of years they still will If prohibition could ever work nobody would think we needed it in the first place The entire concept is anathema to the human condition|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 But if no ones buys tickets then how will they even make money I highly doubt they will ban spectators|0 The foo is on the other shoot now|0 what are they doing right or italy just not confirming cases and only serious ones|0 I have a nonrefundable trip to NYC in a week Fuck|0 Africa is a potential hotspot with poor monitoring and lots of Chinese workers Also native bat populations|0 Look I have enough emotional intelligence to have sympathy for you here and everyone is frustrated right now so I also get the I HAVE IT HARD TOOism but these are frightened people who have to expose themselves to a potentially deadly virus to pay their bills without any other options because of corporate greed They are people who wont make ends meet with their paltry unemployment even if Starbucks did the right thing and laid them off not fired them Im sorry and Im wishing you the best throughout all of this but your situation is not on par with theirs It just isnt|0 That sounds a lot like another popular policy proposal man it is just slipping my mind OH YEA it is medicare for allHere we are with Biden as the front runner and we are seeing a reallife example of why Sanders and his policies need to happen now|1 At this point theres going to be few athletes that can compete frankly The other hotspots of S Korea Iran and Italy are going to have athletes with the same problems now|0 Lombardy is the new Wuhan idk why everyone treats Italy as a giant entity thats all being hit super hard They have one massively hit providence a couple mediums and mostly lower numbers in the south|1 Thank god no one here is in a position of power because yall know fuck all about science|0 the problem is the crazy level churches are the ones sticking around|0 didnt they say those masks dont do anything and youd need a real respirator for it to be effective for this virus|1 The only thing that this reminds me of is a hurricane Getting prepared for something badthe uncertainty of it Ive been calling it Hurricane Covid My wifes from Miami and she thinks Im being stupid Shes right Oh wellgood luck to everyone|0 Keep wearing the mask Very soon it will be the norm once more people get infected and people they know get hospitalizedI went in to my local Lifelabs for a blood test Almost everyone in the waiting area had masks on The nurses had surgical masks and full face guards on The few people without masks looked uncomfortable|0 China wasnt better prepared but China got hit first so thats understandable China got sucker punched by this virus but managed to get back up The US decided to laugh at China getting punched instead of preparing itself for being next|0 Payment is not low for me I have list of studies that compare risk mileage days inhouse how many visits and payment structure I dont take studies that pay less than 1000 now Even with that in mind I have not had a study in the last 4 years Current occupation keeps me too busy I still hook people up with studies now that make money|0 Anyone ordered these maskhttpsviraltechmaskscomAny insight is appreciated|1 what scale is the x axisalso i like the chart with the japan trend line shaming everyone elseanother question how would these track if it was behind china instead of behind italy|1 Writing from ChinaIn fact the virus has been in the United States for a long time It seems that the US government is now trying to maintain social stability Imagine if the state of emergency was declared what would the entire society look like There are too many factors to consider China can take extreme measures to restrict because Chinas system enables the government to unite the entire country to act and everyone will not or cannot oppose the governments decision On the contrary in the United States I think there are too many things to consider Up including market economy political parties etcThe most important thing now is to control or to monitor flights from Europe not to keep asking if you have been to China within 14 days Europe is out of control Otherwise It s only a matter of time to get to shit|1 Buttigieg and warren would jump back in No way tulsi would win lol|1 They technically dont have the power but they will do it anyway The Constitution forbids them from suspending habeas corpus except in the case of rebellion or invasion but they claim all sorts of abilities under the guise of regulating interstate commerceHere is the CDCs interpretation of the powers they believe they have httpswwwcdcgovquarantineaboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolationhtmlAnd the US military will have a significantly expanded interpretation of that should martial law ever be declared|0 I feel like we should be posting this all over A lot of comments on here are focused only on the mortality rate and only if you have preexisting conditions and using that to justify not being too worried Its going to be very bad|1 The UK is no longer testing everyone 10000day is a joke They only test people who are actually ill in hospital alreadyThats why our figure is so low|0 its alright once or if it ever does this settles down The whole world will look back and crticise China for this Time to stop playing the blame game LOL Everythign I said is true so China deserves ALL the blame it can get|1 Mask prices on EBay and Amazon in Canada are insane at the moment a single mask for 60 and open boxes of masks for over 100They are also misleading people selling the woodworking masks as medical masks Im just glad I was able to pick up 4 huge bottles of hand sanitizer today at the grocery store and stocked up on drycanned goodsIve given up on finding a mask there are no cases spreading locally yet anywaysScary times ahead|1 Oh what the fuck man that is horrifying so basically Coronavirus cucks your own cells|0 Do not spread misinformation or encourage drama|1 If the vaccine is produced quick enough it is possible to starve corona After this the economy should get back on its feet making it a high risk high reward investment in companies while people are trying get them off themselves then sell the stocks once the virus has been starved out|0 But isnt buying time the best strategy now since its a pandemic and cant be stopped so we dont overwhelm our healthcare systems|1 Many people in you situation are not as thoughtful and perhaps after the first call went back to work with the elderly|0 That is absolutely beautiful|1 I am a teacher in montco pa Yup schools should closed Im just a substitute too changed careers and dont have a permanent position yet so although I essentially work daily Id rather them close schools and prevent shit from spreading|0 Holy crap thats awesome|1 probably supportive care like oxygen balancing their fluids electrolytes and blood pressure keeping track of inflammatory responses and cytokine storm would be similar to how they handle it for patients with sepsis I think there are some drugs now that can suppress it that are used for rheumatoid arthritis and autoimmune diseases but unsure if suppressing immune response would help fight covid at the same timeit could but we probably dont know what is better so its probably a balanceAs there continues to be cases doctors are likely trying different treatments and eventually it will hopefully converge into a best treatment algorithm and drugs to use for caring for people at different stagesconditions of the disease you maybe able to get experimental drugs under compassionate care but there maybe serious consequences that arent known because they are still experimental|1 This is utterly FALSEWe are not letting elderly people dieWhat its probably misrepresented is what normally happen when a patient is to be admitted in an ICU in any instances not only those related to covid19 the patient situation is evaluated against the weight of the treatmentSource many statements from ICU workers here in Italy to refuse this kind of news|0 This is correct Aerosolized particles are more likely in a hospital setting when people are using things like nebulizers high flow oxygen or other respiratory treatments In this setting the isolation measures require negative airflow rooms and n95 masks For community spread respiratory droplets are the main source of transmission and so regular masks are helpful along with standard handwashing and not touching your face|0 Watch the full conference Theyre going full ItS jUsT tHe FlU bRo|0 You should see all the memes people ar posting in alabama about how were so badass because we have no one with coronavirus In The state meanwhile the state has only tested like 20 something people|0 I think theyre trying to keep people from panicking and keep the workforce happy but yes it does come across as being blas about the lives of the older less physically well people in society|1 Interesting I work for Boeing on the 787 plane We get our barrels shipped to us after they are made in Italy then we put everything together There has been some rumors going around about our factory shutting down because we would stop getting our barrels from Italy I guess its a false rumor then|1 I have started coming at it from a different approach I tell them about the supply chain being interrupted and how we will have low stock in some items This gets them to go to the store and stock up with some items like medicine I do this after they reject the idea of the virus being something serious|0 US government stop capitalismme worryface|0 YeahIm assuming they arejust slightly important to know That and asymptomatic transmission|1 Its a coalition between a left wing party and a far left wing party|1 yeah I hope that didnt come out too forceful Im not great at comforting people I did talk to my friend who just flew home from Miami to Denver He said most people are keeping a calm not wearing masks Maybe thats a good thing maybe its not but I think everyones hyper cautious and thats a good thing mostly just business travelers out there right now|1 Do you know what mild means It means you only get pneumonia only get pneumonia Do you want pneumonia80 of the cases are mildTherefore 20 arent and require hospitalization In my country of 65 million people 80 of the population have been said to be at risk 80 52000000 people are at risk with 20 of those 10 million needing hospitalization Do you think we have the resources to ventilate 10m peopleFor the love of god please tell me when any country has quarantined millions of people over a fluGo outside and get a lifeDo the world a favour and go outside without a mask and lick a few doorknobs please That way youll actually be giving back to society|1 Yes I have this mild sore throat for a few days and recently developed a mild dry cough Dont feel feverish at all but cant check because thermometers are sold out everywhere Currently home with my gf who has asthma Worried I have it and will give it to her|0 Hey simple person If youre sick dont go around vulnerable people You dont need a fucking test to tell you that It doesnt matter if you have the CV or anything else The common flu killed 32k people last year Dont be an idiotic robot|0 Wow You assume a lot by thinking theres more than a vacuum inside that head|1 From what Ive heard its predominately older men who are hit hardest by this Since thats what most senior government officials are and since theres only so much wealth can do for personal healthcare if it starts wildly spreading here I have no doubt that were going to see several government officials catching it as well|1 Care to enlighten the curious|1 If thats whats keeping them afloat they better stop selling knockoff shit|0 Not to mention in Chinese culturein and out of China which may even extend to Asian culture there is an extreme amount of prestige and respect that comes from becoming a Doctor|1 I want mamma mia|0 By this time next month Americans will all agree on one thing This debacle is 100 the fault of the political party they dont vote for|1 All these bs arguments fall flat because others countries have shown that testing can be done a lot faster|0 Im with you Im currently 38w4d in Atlanta I havent yet decided whether to go in for my weekly OB appointments but also theres comfort in knowing that the LD wing is separated out from the rest and they are strict on who goes in|1 Yeah Im in my mid 30s and pretty healthy Im not worried about dying from it but there seem to be so many reports of weird rare sidetrauma that can potentially cause long term problemsTHATS what has me worried|1 I mean maybeNeurological issues combined with the lack of oxygen due to restricted mask breathing takes surprisingly large amount of effort when sick physical exertion and pneumonia preventing blood from being oxygenated for sure Any of those alone even|0 Theoretically it should but no studies on it are out yet Mostly doctors are playing it safe and sticking with regular chloroquine only using HCQ as a substitute if CQ isnt available|1 we already failed to contain it though If its as persistent as the other viruses its already confirmed in NA Europe and Asia unless we get extremely lucky|0 Yep and about 4 days behind the point when Italy went in to lockdown If the government is planning to up its social distancing then the sooner they do so the bigger impact it will have|1 Same here Ive had a lingering dry cough for over two months now Ive run a low grade fever for a few days then it goes away but the cough returns Makes me wonder if this first round is just the setup for round 2 which could be worse if Im already compromised with this illness Maybe round 2 is what happened in Wuhan and the rest of the world hasnt caught up yet|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I agree Just because he is speaking in a manner of political correct way doesnt mean he is right He seemed to prepare this answer before hand and just playing for the crowd Dont get me wrong he is right about what he said but there is something wrong about the context|1 The article is vaguely worded about when he was diagnosed but sounds like it was a few days ago Hed presumably be one of the 34 cases but thats for all of Ontario not just Toronto|1 Its hard to ask man but have some faith in humanity There are some good folks out there fighting the cause|1 That and they downvote things that might be actually useful to peopleReddit man|1 Girlfriend turned out to have kidney infection I just have the cold We havent had tests done regarding the novel coronavirus Thanks for the concern|1 Good comment also theress a distinction between asymptomatic and presymptomatic or rather the time factor involved If you test someone who currently has nofew symptoms and theyre positive you dont know until later whether they remained aysmptomatic ie they never got properly sick or were just presymptomatic|1 Bill Gates is definitely bad yeah his tax evasion tactics framed as charity do the tiniest fraction of what paying his taxes could do if everything wasnt broken Hes a huge fan of socialist handouts that only the wealthy can qualify for|1 Its a shame theyre being affected Ive been avoiding asian food places not because of the people but because of their ingredients I really doubt anyone working at an establishment is infected or has been around any infected people Ive been more worried about products traveling from china arriving in the US having contaminants So anywhere with chinese products Ive been avoiding I buy a lot of tools from Harbor Freight and practically everything in there is from China and I was extremely hesitant to go in last week Im even suspicious of things at walmart|0 Not really I would think its kind of amazing being able to donate to anyone who needs it regardless of their type|1 I just pour them into my ass|0 Indeed It seems people are trying to calm themselves with bad logicfalse info There is no need to panic but this virus is a risk We need to inform ourselves and be prepared|0 Well thats too badi hope they change their policy However I Dont know how much it helps with cashiers as they are face to face with people They might need goggles for it to truly be efficient|1 If whole families are dying thats not good at all and we arent being told everything|0 Yes |1 Guy said if you wear a respirator I am protected from you but thats not at all true|0 Guys I coach a high school robotics team between me and the other coaches we have access to a fully equipped machine shop with lots of interesting stuff What if anything can we do to help|1 Its pretty a given Italy will have higher mortality rate than Chinasvery few people in Italy are wearing masks as opposed to everyone in ChinaChina can mobilize resources from a nation of 1 billion people Italy cant China locked down when there were only 500 cases Italy didnt start lock down until they had 3000 casesItalys lockdown measures were nowhere as strict as Chinas Italys population is also much older|1 Wow thats a very specific interpretation on why people spread misinformation on Reddit Seems like you are just projecting and if you are thats sad|1 Yeah our local officiants were wearing gloves and used a faceshield at service sunday and wednesday|1 He said 15 yesterday in his public address where the told all the state schools they were closing He prefixed that 15 like its a good thing|1 unless its change since I last seen it EastEnders are fucked|0 You quarantined a package in your garage lol fucksakeBritain is an affected area as well I suppose I better quarantine all my post in the cupboard|1 Ok thats fair I may be letting paranoia get the better of me a little|1 I saw two posts on here about 4 weeks ago One was an interview with a foreign student in Wuhan He said that they noticed people were getting sick in about September Of course seasonal flu kills people each year and the same demographic is affected The second was a diary of a Wuhan housewife and she said that well before people knew there was an illness that was killing people She also stated from September She said by the time they made quarantine mandatory a lot of people were frightened to go out and were self quarantining So lets say you are up to end September in Italy It peaked in Wuhan just 710 days ago Use that as a guideBTW I have contact with a nurse in St Louis and she said the CDC was aware of it since December and her hospital has been prepping since then as it is a major hospital The only way to slow this down is to quarantine We need to slow it down because no country has enough bed to give care to those with acute illness|0 Dont get cocky|1 Every critical voice who responds to you causes you to dig deeper into your delusion None of your links are proof of your conspiracy theory You need mental healthcare like half the people in this sub|0 Is there a way to make a good mask on your own All you would need is about 5 layers or so of different levels of particle filtering material The biggest issue is finding which material can be used where its sold|1 Fuck this guy|0 tldr nailed boards to the windows to keep the zombies outRT good job sub can use posts like this every while|1 Yeah except the state Dept is doing stupid stuff without telling him and going against what he was told Which the head there is an Obama hold over|0 Im not saying that they may have infected P1 through fomites They came from Wuhan their bags or gifts or food or anything they brought could have carried the virus They all could have been infected at the same time in Shanghai|0 Its like those 30 people that died of alcohol poisoning in Iran because they were falsely informed that it killed the virusEdit 44|0 No not from nyc|0 Spent a little bit translating it Its a legit waiting room document of the Piedmonte region national health service City of TorinoBasically says You are priority code green Your number is A R 241 Wait for your number to be called on the monitors and a coordinator will escort you to the examination room|1 Thats it People buying extra groceries and cleaning supplies is in no way panickingI bought our stuff weeks ago Calmly had a list a plan No fuss no freaking out Been keeping abreast of devolopments so I can make educated decision and keep my family informed as I have more free time than they doHow can this be described as panic The ones who panic are the ones who this will sneek up on They are the ones who will be running around like their hair is on fire|0 Interesting Theyve changed that article since I last read it Thanks for updating me|1 Thats how desperate he is to try to maintain the appearance of being the great dealmaker But honestly that mirage faded years ago He is shit at it|1 Enterprise Citrix is where this mans security is I use it at the grocery store I work at think logging into like Amazon then doing ur work|1 I thought the official narrative had started to someone blame Europe Trump is basically in a game of not it and no matter the outcome we lose|0 Oh yeah How so Genuinely want to know|1 With so much differing information on these issues I really want sources cited with links to their findings and research methodologiesThey name a person from UCLA but no links Anyone know if we can get linked sourcing on this|0 I was surprised to learn we still dont know with any certainty how many people caught SARS Yet another factoid these subs have taught me|1 It also starts with thisAccording to the plan Hubei Province has recently conducted investigations on suspected cases and revised the diagnosis results and newly diagnosed patients were diagnosed according to the new diagnosis classificationAre they saying they clinically diagnosed 13k today or they went back and revised a ton of them as well|1 I really needed this Thank you so much|1 Hey man me and my friends got really drunk because we had a prolonged drinking game where we took a drink every time we saw a Bloomberg ad|1 To the guy who keeps replying to me but getting censoredlol I admire your persistence This is still a better sub than the main coronavirus sub That ones nothing but commie prop and BS about how its somehow a certain bad orange mans fault|1 Hey uhayleybtsHope youre doing okay today|1 This virus started in china in the beginning of September Those numbers china reported are not accurate or believable in any way shape or form They literally tried to cover this up when it exploded and lied to the world about the severity then downplayed it and continue to downplay it Do not trust anything you hear from china its a communist country and communists are not to be trusted for obvious reasons In NovDecJan 2019 american born chinese that went to china after birth in the US had never lived a day in the US mostly government related or affluent started flocking to the us like scared bats because they knew what was going on and needed to get the eff out of china they helped bring the virus here because all the care about is them selves|0 I dont want them though |0 2 not 002 Unclear if thats accurate or meaningful|1 I get your point but thats a super sexist comment|1 Still not worried Besides my neighbour does my head in|1 Before all of this happened my amazon subscription for TP got out of hand because I kept forgetting to pause it so my house literally already has like 6 mos worth|1 To date only about 5 of previously pending cases that were lab tested have resulted in a positive That number is going to go up over time as COVID overtakes influenza but shouldnt be ignored|1 This is what Im scared of most|0 Same to you as well friend You made the right call keeping the kids home Be thankful that youre blessed enough to have that option youre not overreacting by any meansGoodluck |1 When all its competitors were destroyed by war|0 Live in a Canadian city just outside of Toronto and work for that city They are deploying workers who typically enforce municipal law violations property standards animal services etc to enforce some of these businesses Just an fyi|0 Exactly There are realistic limits to what can be done here Everyone staying inside and socially isolating for 78 months without working goes well beyond those limits|0 I really dont understand why anyone would think thatThey think that because its what the media has been telling them for the past weekJust like they believed that it was only people who were at the wet market just like they believed that it would only kill elderly and sick people just like they believed that there was no human to human transmission just like they believed that the diagnosis rates were reliable etc|0 Hopefully a digital one or theyll get sick soon|0 were very well past the stage of in vitro studies clinical trials have already started I dont really get the point of this study|1 I like how everyone thinks that the outbreak will become less dangerous to them once it starts to decline in their country Has everyone forgotten the threat of reinfection Seriously Even if countries like Korea and China have a declining number of reported infection It wont matter if the entire country has to go into quarantine AGAIN because they had to lift travel restrictions and the number of infected skyrockets|0 I agree Ive been saying this for days My anxieties feel like they are much more than normal I have a pregnancy check up coming up which I am terrified to go to btw and I will be bringing it up there Thank you for listening and the kind words |1 just pray very hard and it goes away|1 I agree Thank you all|1 NP its really a bit scary trying to lighten things up but failed|0 A good few people from that area went Like four or five iirc|1 Its like they think they are too rich to contract the virus The complacent attitude of these privileged countries can be deadly|1 So funny that I ran in to this as I was updating by new|1 Pornovirus has a death rate of 00000001 but an R0 of 28|0 Its impossible for the retail workers to work from home what are they supposed to do It might not be great optics but its reality|0 SO when they take that 1 person and put them in quarantine and maybe a couple of their contacts it does nothing about the other cases People should not get a false sense of security about those reactive measuresThis is exactly right Just to give your statements some contexta person currently quarantined in the Life Care Center in Kirkland WA had family members visit them last Monday At least one of those family members is now showing signs of the virus and health officials wont test that person even after being asked Family members that have had contact with people in the facility havent even been contacted yet by any health officials and theyve been out in the community for 7 days now|1 Think twice Other countries are telling their citizens not to leave the house if theyre old or immunocompromised or have any other risk factors Were telling people to think twice about taking a cruise Way to go Canada|0 Ok but youve still got to touch the PDA thing so what practical difference does it make|1 Because the AG was planning to file a suit against his ass for price gouging|0 Well itll do more to solve your homelessness issue than any government policy ever has so theres that|1 You were early you were conscientious and you were right Kudos for thatAnd now you are prepared while the rest are catching up and panickingIf Chinas experience teaches us anything this will not blow over in a weekSo good luck perseverance and godspeed|1 Great thanks When you say that tap water could contaminate it do you mean with pathogens or impurities Im confident that there are no dangerous pathogens currently in my tap water so do you mean that impurities would make virus destruction less effective The interwebs suggest 0786 gcm3 for 91 IPA Lol flashback to high school chemistry Fun algebra problem for later|1 I am Italian even though I dont live thereThis virus is severe i am shocked to see that countries are not acting to prevent what happened to Italy And lets speak frankly Italy didnt have more cases the trend is the same for every country What in italy is going on now it will happen to the UK US France Spain Germany in the next 2 weeks The biggest difference is that Italy did a ton of tests on people even the ones with just a simple flu got tested and many found out that way that they had the coronavirus so they had a chance to do some prevention instead of waiting to be really badly sickBut paradoxically those countries are doing nothing to prevent it They like to wait for the catastropheThis virus is also not just like a flu It killed in Italy 40 of people so far who reached the end of the illness 12K are actually infected but nobody knows yet how they progress around 1000 recovered 800 died So its 6040This virus is not a joke and its not true that it kills only old people 3040 of critical people are under 50 as some doctor told So if it find a good place to grow it may kill anybodyIts just a joke that many countries are still ignoring it Its unbelievablehttpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpstwittercomMatteoPedrosistatus1238230711011860483photo1httpstwittercomMatteoPedrosistatus1238230711011860483photo1|0 Thanks manIts not been a great week Im hoping this brings us together rather than tearing us apart|1 So it took 1216 days for this guy to be identified from when he was originally infected And his symptoms are fairly mundane at first so the only reason he was even tested was likely because he had direct ties to wuhan travelers|0 At the moment I am battling shortness of breath and a pounding heart Resting heart rate is insane Up to 109 bpm just a little while ago Coughing then shortness of breath then pounding heart Got it back down by really concentrating on my breathing like I used to do when Id long distance run Feels like Ive been runningFlew Friday to and from infected areas with a layover in another infected area Felt the usual travel fatigue and brushed it off to time zone change Got through the weekend Monday I felt off Pushed through Tuesday night I had a runny nose Woke up Wednesday with a sore throat tight chest cough cold sweats diarrhea headache I travel a lot for work Sometimes Ill start a week with something like that mid week get sick then finish the week just fine Just the nature of traveling a lot So at first I downplayed it Then between Wednesday night and Thursday morning it got gradually worse Enough for me to be concerned and cancel work meetings Thursday through Saturday I experienced chills sore headheadache soredry throat short breath elevated resting heart rate pleurisy sharp shooting pain when I breath in diarrhea runnystuffy nose and overall fatigue No fever Exact opposite in fact 965 was the lowest it went Low temperatures I usually run pretty low but have been fluctuating between 965 and 975 I only have a cough at night when Im sleeping Sunday I woke up feeling a little better By Sunday afternoon I was thinking I beat it Then Sunday evening lying in bed I thought I was going to die My resting heart rate was going nuts Chest was tight Weezing Felt like I was running Today Same Good day for the most part minor aches and fatigue Then after dinner I coughed a little bit and bam It starts again Started feeling a little light headed Laid down got my heart rate back down Now Im just meditating Ive been monitoring my heart rate and oxygen saturation levels with an app on my phone|0 Ive noticed that health departments arent always toward the top of search results I have a feeling there isnt much of a budget for search engine optimization in local government useful as it would be|1 Heres hoping|1 This is a pretty stupid observation You realize there is a timeline You understand you dont calculate CFR by taking deaths as of today and dividing it by confirmed cases as of today right|0 Exactly A few days ago I said that we will be rioting if this bullshit excuse keeps coming out of boris mouth I got downvoted and called a fool because they said I dont know more than the experts lol|0 Thats the type of people that get other people killed and panicked fuck him good on you Italian police|0 Key takeaway Test like hell and catch them early|0 No problem getting tested if youre in the NBA|0 Good eye You can see Sugarloaf mountain behind the building Peaking at 300 ft |1 Yea sir Moat countries have shit governments but most humans are ignorant yet good hearted We work together and well have the best chances to suffer less|1 Supposedly China doesnt do comorbidity Like when someone who is 73 gets this Coronavirus and dies of a heart attack the cause of death is heart attack There have been some discussions on this I have seen online Basically every physician knows this it affects their numbers and it is not a problem China wants to solve Its even a problem with the normal seasonal flu because an elderly person with seasonal flu could be declared dead for a preexisting condition or old age All Chinas numbers on all diseases are affected by this customFor contrast someone in America with heart disease who contracted a flu and got pneumonia would be declared dead with heart disease flu and pneumonia if they died not just a single cause|0 I understand I have gotten very sensitive to the OK Boomer dismissals|1 As fast as we sensibly can we need to extend these analyses to more infectorinfectee pairs with better quality time data The implications are too serious not to What is going on in that regard|1 You are paranoid Taking basic precautions like washing your hands and making sure you are living a healthy lifestyle is as much as you can do But going all in going crazy almost preparing for nuclear war is extreme|0 Oh man I would recommend watching some documentaries on the great depression I was literally in a debate with someone 6 months ago who was claiming things are the best they have been that there so many parallels then with the great depression and we are leading towards the same crisis There are so many signs from the lack of savings the price of homes and the absurd levels of debt people are taking outThere is no solution The market must be allowed to work this out and if we dont which we arent it will be protracted and at best delayed into an even worse bubble There is no policy solution to this People will suffer and the best thing you can do is to focus on you and your family|1 At least people will now realize how dumb current Pope is|0 The figures I found are a little different but your point still stands Europeans are older and should expect a higher death rate because of it China 60 years of age 176 above 65 years 131Italy 60 years of age 30 above 65 years 235httpswwwpopulationpyramidnetchina2020httpswwwpopulationpyramidnetchina2020|0 Narrator They were complacent and didnt do really aggressive containment|1 Hope you have good aim|1 Person to person transmission reported in Japan bus driver in Nara who probably got from bus load of tourists from ChinaPerson to person reported in Munich Germany Guy got infected from a colleague who had been to ChinaNeither infected had been to China|0 Agreed And the real rate of infection is far higher than any of us know yet|1 Well we had a basketball game with a team rom Italy last week basketball is 1 sport here beating anything multiple times over and a third of the ticket holders did not show up because of virus risk|0 Hope this is true Im a universal donor Although never given blood because Im not sure I qualify with all the drugs I take|1 Then just ask People the last time they remember China or Italy shutting down China didnt tank their economy just to be mean to Trump Italy isnt closed to tourism just for fun The Pope quit holding public mass Israel is closing its borders This has not happened before The assumption that this is all normal is pretty insane|1 The problem with psychiatric facilities is that patients are unreliable and irrational so they will be less likely than the general population to be maintaining proper hygiene during a pandemic Not to mention that the virus will play to paranoia fears that it is all a government plot|0 If things get bad enough would this action be considered an attempted crime against humanity Trying to hoard own the only vaccine to a global pandemic|0 To be fair theyve been in direct contact with someone known to have Coronavirus Theyve also been in contact with fans staff family friends etc|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 yes and no|1 Polk county here And your both spot on Seen my Dr Tuesday for referral for chest xray She was disturbed as well Said shes not looking forward to the next month I find it hard to believe there are physicians not mildy concerned|0 So half of the people tested will be positive|1 You are more optimistic than me So far what I see is the power of unions being undermined and a race to the bottom for work conditions And I dont believe in the it needs to get worse before it gets better mantraLets agree to disagree|0 Haha as a chinese dude with native sources Ill just tell you that china is a communist country specializing in propaganda They also have no choice but to build up a positive facade before preparing for economic war against america|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Take care of yourself friend We are really happy for SK too|1 Absolutely The normal governmental mechanism of taxing those companies has been severely undercut in the USA so were reduced to trusting in their largess which is insane but they should be contributing far more|0 Saw that some guy on amazon was selling them for 30 with the shipping fee of 300 and arriving in May Man|1 I cant trust the human base instincts Which is why preventing panic is the 1 goal for whats happening|0 They put quarantine because these are the hospitals herehttpswwwgooglecomsearchqvenezuelahospitalclientfirefoxbdsourcelnmstbmischsaXved2ahUKEwiPnM91Z3oAhVDiOAKHdYiAaoQAUoAXoECAwQAwSo cant risk people getting infected|0 Now thats the best idea yet My urgent care had both adult child sized masks but they are right by the counter where they check you in In the foyer is much better|1 Oh fuck off dude you doomers are all the same Just want the world to burn and when the news doesnt match your views its bullshit|0 No problem The other trick CCP usually pulls is to take articlesinternet posts replies from western mediawebsites that are blocked by GFW and show PART of them on Chinese mediainternet in a way that completely misrepresent andor twist its original meaning so that Chinese people that are locked inside GFW get mad at the west and think USA is not just bad but want to dominateoverpower China CCP intentionally blend themselves into the concept China and that everything is the conspiracy of Evil American Imperialists literal translation from ChineseOn top of that CCP moderatesdeletes all its critics on Chinese internetWechatWeibo etc BUT intentionally leave the comments of rumors about this USA attackingbullying China narrative on Chinese internet A typical example would be that corona virus was a biochemical weapon developed by USA to target China and that USA has never sentoffered any help to China since the breakout They want China dead This has been on Chinese internet for months now and somehow the comments are never moderated by the mighty CCP censors But if someone on Chinese internet post something about the virus being developed and leaked from a Wuhan local military virus research center the comments wouldnt even be allowed to be posted and the person would risk getting arrested or even DISAPPEARED meaning CCP arrests and kills himher secretly and nobody would ever find hisher body Or CCP could claim that the person had a sudden hear attack at the precinct and died immediately basically tortured by CCP to death in which case CCP would quickly burn the body and would never allow hisher family to see the dead body let alone have it back for autopsy|0 Its not almost like weve gotten to the point where that is becoming one of the few remaining possibilities|0 If all the elitist got infected does the government collapse|0 Vitamin C Why|1 I am also Israeli I think you are confusing people in quarantine with infected So far only 10 cases have tested positive and only one is a case of community infection as far as I know|0 Tell me about how people fighting over toilet paper unites humans Itll always be about me because humans are individualistic when it comes to survival|0 Way too early to become excited That spike protein could have some major cancer causing agent or something|0 Its weird to be on the dont panic side but not all the 65 will die Even without proper treatment at least 50 will recover rightIts also weird to be saying that losing such a huge percentage is on the dont panic side|0 The data shows the opposite actually The fact that you think its spreading is confirmation bias You gots is bad|0 No I meant that in the USA you have an extreme mix of diversity not just raceYou have rural suburban urban inner city no city within 100 miles people who speak every language on the planet people who dont speak english people who cant read people who dont have internet access people who have health insurance people who dontOne size fits all solutions are very hard in the US Part of the reason for states rights is because things are very different 3000 miles away and the states can oversee their own needs better|0 I had to go in with one of my kids for vaccinations mandatoryI wouldnt have gone if I didnt have to so Ill leave it at thatWe went in with gloves and face masks Hoped staff at the clinic might be wearing PPE no one wasHowever everyone working at the blood clinic in the same building was wearing full face shields white suits and long glovesMy doctors office looked very strange in contrast to the other clinic right across the hallOh well at least they checked by phone first|0 Great news anything to stop this Chinese Space Cancer the better|1 i have no symptoms i just believe alot more of us have it than we realize my grocery store is requiring us to schedule time slots to have groceries delivered and they are all booked so i cant even get the delivered i have to go to the grocery store|0 This right here is how misinformation is spread|0 If something is so heavily demanded you may be able to get it on the second trip but I doubt you can go around 3 trips without it running out of stockYes it would affect people like me who also buy for their family But at least with his policy I can get it before hoarders|0 Im not sure how the deaths of 17m will affect food distribution It would be a remarkable coincidence if the sickest and most elderly of the population were all employed in the food distribution sector I would even say that its unlikelyDidnt the health authorities also say that at its peak a fifth of the population may be off sick Im not sure how that equates to no toilet paper being delivered for weeks and weeksBack in the 2000 fuel strikes thing I was working at a bakery that ended up reducing its deliveries to supermarkets from around 25 times a day to once a day to conserve fuel I appreciate that its not the same but bread still got delivered in the same quantities after only a day or two of faffing about with schedules|0 That can actually be hard to know for certain Even if two different types of medication have the exact same active compounds the production and inactive compounds can still affect the effects of the pill Different types of coating might mean it gets ingested at different rates for example|1 I hope you didnt bring back a certain something Will you selfquarantine|1 This cover picture would make a great meme template|1 Wondercon is next month in Anaheim its run by the same people as ComicCon If that cancels well know ComicCon is over|1 So you will fight the economic impact by doubting the goverment over it spreading hysteria and panic and writing scared messages online Plz sign me up for you economics class you rock|0 And people in public call the police everytime I do it jokes on them|1 yeah rather get delivery and pay with a card online I can wash hands sanitize things before put in fridge|1 We can all disagree with the things Trump is doing but this ban is whats needed to contain the virus As a matter of fact this shouldve been done since JanuaryTraveling is whats making the virus spread like it has been doing People still travel like its nothing|0 Good news genuinely upsets certain types of people on this sub lol|1 1 No one is stuck there foreigner can leave the country entering it is the issues and american citizen can still enter the USA2 Oh my god he is stuck in the country with the most efficient healthcare in the world httpswwwwhointhealthinfopaper30pdf |0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I hope thats not sI believe most developed even developing countries would have thatSample from Singapore includes government mandated quarantine too as hospitalization httpswwwmomgovsgemploymentpracticesleavesickleaveeligibilityandentitlement|1 Whistleblowers out here speakin the truth Damn|0 You dumbed Russia down to prove your own point Sucks but given the political situation in the west its understandable|0 The good doctor|1 Makes you wonder what else they have been hiding|0 Its a reference to 4chan finding the secret location of Shia LaBeoufs HWNDU Trump protest flag by looking at flight patterns of the planes that flew overhead it was a livestream of the flag and the sky in the background When they narrowed down an area they got a dude to drive around and honk his horn until it could be heard on the livestream|0 How to protect your family from the new coronavirusIm a Chinese I have been gathering information about the coronavirus from the Chinese internet Here I share some measures that can protect you from the new coronavirus It may save your life I know that many foreigners think the new coronavirus is just some kind of flu However its not the truth The death rate is much higher than the flu The death rate outside of HuBei province is low because we have taken extreme and strong measures to cut off the virus spreading When the infected population rises rapidly the local medical system will breakdown in a short time The hospitals will be full of fever patients who have breathing difficulties and the shortage of medical resources will cause huge casualties This is what happening in WuHan now China has sent thousands of doctors to Wuhan and built two new hospitals in just one week and prepared many quarantine centers BUT its still not enough nowFirst personal equipment is extremely important The n95 masks have been sold out for a long time in China now Keep in mind that China has the largest surgical mask manufacturing industry Please buy them as many as possible now no matter how expensiveIf you cant buy the n95 medical masks the n95 industry masks can also do the job If you are in Europe please buy the FFP2FFP3 masks they have the same filtering level If the n95 masks have a valve it can still protect you but it cant protect others if you are infectedThe onetime masks can be used only one time theoretically therefore you need to prepare industry respiratorsgas masks for your family Its not a joke In China even the gas masks have been sold out I recommend the 3M HF52 respirator the 3M 6500 and 7500 series respirators Remember to buy enough n95 filters for your respirators The p100 filters are also good I bought four respirators for my family after the n95 masks are completely sold outThe common surgical masks or medical masks are also important They cant prevent the coronavirus 100 but they can highly reduce the risks Please buy them as many as possible In China many local governments have announced that its illegal to use public transmission without a medical mask The cotton masks are useless dont buy themThe eye protectors can help you to prevent being infected through the eye We have strong evidence that the new coronavirus can spread through the eyeair contact If you cant buy them the swimming glass can do the same job even betterConsidering that you may face masks shortage the 75 alcohol disinfectant and UV disinfection lamp can disinfect masks for reusing them Prepare enough alcohol disinfectant and a UV lamp for your familyDont use dirty hands to rub your eyes Clean your hand with a portable hand sanitizer before eating and drinkingWhen the new coronavirus outbreaks in your city and you have to go to the hospital to treat other diseases please remember to wear n95 masks eye protectors and gloves Many patients and doctors are infected in Chinese hospitals They weared the common medical masks but they are not 100 effectiveBefore the coronavirus outbreak in your city please prepare a fueled car Dont trust the government when they say its under control Escape your city before things become too bad and lockdown I dont know if the US government can lockdown a city The people who escaped WuHan are lucky now Those people who believed the government and stayed in WuHan is facing a disaster Many families are infected First one person has a fever and breathing difficulty then all the family members are infected one by one The hospitals are full of patients and hundreds of patients die every day Nurses and doctors mentally breakdown Its a nightmareWhen it comes to drugs I cant recommend anyone since the doctors are still trying I believe the Remdesivir is effective however its still in the experiment and you cant buy them from the market They have tested Remdesivir in WuHan hospital and hopefully the result will come out in 10 days However there is one drug that has been proved effective by many Chinese doctors and it has been used for dealing with malaria for a long time Its Hydroxychloroquine Its not OTC therefore you cant buy it without a prescription Dont use any drugs before asking your doctorIf you are living in an apartment in a crowded city like New York Japan and Hong Kong please remember that the new coronavirus can spread in the elevator The coronavirus can also spread through the sewer and it has been proved by a very famous issue in Hong Kong when SARS outbreaks in a crowded apartment in 2003 Seal your drains in the toilet if anyone has been infected in your apartment and please avoid using elevatorsWhen you have a fever please measure the body temperature many times a day The patients may only have low fever Some patients the percentage is still not sure will have breathing difficulty in about one week When you feel its diffcult to breath please report to your doctor as soon as possible|1 I wonder if this gradual throttling up of the work force is intentional to keep the inevitable new cases at a pace the health system can keep up with Perhaps it is easy to say they should have waited longer but that simply wasnt possible In fairness there is no path forward that doesnt entail extreme hardshipI remain cautiously optimistic and hope China truly is turning a corner In the absence of trust will wait for proxy indicators to firm up I will know for sure this ending for real when schools reopen Workers may be sacrificed to keep the economy from collapsing but probably not children|1 It is a good thing You cant expect the numbers to just miraculously fall to 0 If there is less today than there were yesterday in regards to increases that means that we may not hopefully see the level of exponential growth that other nations like Italy and China have seen Naturally I wish that nobody would contract this virus or die from it But if the numbers from today are less than yesterday it is a small step in the right direction|1 Not to mention trump castrated the CDC in recent years with massive budget cuts he appointed someone to run it no idea who but probably a completely incompetent donor friend of his People say theyve had mass exodus of quality staff to the private sector so yeah its not surprising theyre pouring a special flavour of incompetence on top of an already horrid healthcare system It doesnt bode well|0 Bio Bidet is a bidet attachment to your already existing toilet and its excellent and easy to attach Ive had it a few years and highly recommend it|1 I doubt any My contact since that day with the outside world has been beyond minimal The only person I have been within 6 feet of is my girlfriend My work got canceled this morning so I havent left my property since Friday|0 Thats some apocalyptic shit|0 Hear me out people price gouging isnt a bad thing and Ill tell you why If people raise the price of things like masks or gasoline or water in an emergency then it helps prevent hoarding and makes it so that more people can have the necessary amount of supplies than they otherwise wouldWhich would you rather have1 100 people buy one mask each because they cost 25 a pieceor 2 The first guy to the store buys all 100 masks because they cost 050 eachSure you can try to make up rules like You can only buy 1 mask but then you are relying on the store owner to uphold the rule and he has zero incentive to do that other than being a good person Hes likely to just hide the masks for his family or sell them on the black market So called price gouging actually helps more people during emergencies because it gives incentive for everyone to distribute resources more evenly|1 I work at a warehouse with about a dozen others and a lot of cardboard coming in and out No gloves no face masks and no social distancing Our boss yesterday told us he thinks this whole thing is overblown and that as long as the trucks keep coming in well still be working We are fucked|0 God bless your soul and mine for having to deal with the sheer incompetence of the American and Dutch governments|1 Yes exactly Something about the numbers we were speculating about must be off by a pretty big margin Either R0 or the percentage of critical cases This would make the virus severely less dangerous than we expected would it notThe only explanation that would make this bad news instead of good news is if a disproportionately low amount of the highrisk groups have been infected so far Which is a possibility sure|0 Interestingly I keep reading articles discouraging people from wearing surgical masks because theyre only effective in preventing infected people from spreading the virus And then I see this group picture of those badass nurses All wearing surgical masks|0 They are afraid just looking for validation for their decisions Sad really|0 Yeah I quit cold turkey too A change of environment and habit helps I was able to do it when I went on vacation Getting to the 3 week mark sucked I was a miserable cunt for a couple weeks Then I just replaced nicotine with twice as much alcohol so not necessarily sure I came out ahead lol|0 Thank the WHO for their genius keep flights going several weeks back when we could have contained it|1 South Korea and Japan have pretty good edit recent humans rights records and freedom For exmaple httpsenwikipediaorgwikiFreedomofthepressmediaFilePressfreedom2019svg|1 Buy them a bunch of bobas Been following this site for about a week now and whoever is running it deserves a Nobel prize|1 let them its natural selection|1 A friend of a friend is giving birth at home unplanned Surely the mother and baby are low risk for COVID19 complications and hospitals normally never recommend home birth so I have to believe its for the greater good Holy crap|1 Holy shit Thats all so disgusting I dont even know where to start damn Ive never set foot in a Nordstrom and now I DEFINITELY never will|0 Translation error and misleading by omission of information 1 Affected not infected 2 if nothing is done3 Healthcare is the prerogative of the 16 states of the Federal Republic of Germany As the German chancellor all she and the Federal Minister for Health Mr Spahn can do is appeal and urge the colleagues and inform the public in order to inspire a more forceful response in the StatesPlease help to spread this clarification|1 The target for the lockdown is to prevent it from spreading so I think that 10k now doesnt necessarily mean great spike in a months time|0 I dont know but as long as youre not coming from China I think youll be fine You could try to move to an earlier flight but probably not necessary Good luck to you safe and healthy|1 Its unclear if reinfection is possible or if those were cases of premature negative tests It certainly hasnt happened more than a handful of times anywayBy far the most likely thing is that he had a cold in the middle of cold season and later got covid19|0 I almost wonder how many people will see the joke or who will just downvote or will see my comment declaring this to probably be a joke and decide not to downvote instead or who will downvote me|1 Any chance for an India tag and in general more county based ones|1 Its really not I live in a very small community But in Missouriif that makes you all feel better|1 Bullshit This is just from the pot of money they are saving from not having to give staff free food|0 Im curious about this too|1 All the food you could eat and a mile from the closest neighborThis isnt really how farming is done anymore Most farmers grow a single crop like a thousand acres of soybeans Many of those farmers have a nice garden and a bit of livestock for their own use but they cant afford to not produce a harvest every year so they have to acquire seed fertilizer fuel etcMany rural people are part time farmers they can feed themselves if they stop driving in to town for work But they arent Amish they need gas for their truck and they dont make their own clothing Quarantine is as economically disastrous to them as it is for the people in Wuhan although they would be able to walk outdoors in safety|0 We should be so lucky|1 They havent eradicated it yet and its likely just gonna come back with a second wave Im not a party pooper I just think its far too early to celebrate especially as its basically everywhere else now|1 Nope I didnt but now Im researching thanks mate|1 Still waiting for him to stream Dark Souls Actually can we just let Bernie Biden and Trump play Dark Souls and whoever beats it first gets to be president|1 Hes the one in charge of telling those people on behalf of captain spraytan what info they can divulge Why is this so hard for you to understand Didnt you watch China do the same thing a month ago|0 I know you USA ABC accounts are in here listening to us Make treatment free or people will die Many many more people than necessary Economy disruption intensifies Have the CDC pay for at LEAST the screenings|0 Korea is testing all people with pneumonia the us is only testing if they severe enough for hospitalizationMeanwhile Korea testing 10 thousand a day Italy has done 8K UK 7K We are way behind here if and our window of opportunity is closing fast we need to use Koreas of the UKs tests now until we get enough of our ownCoronavirus Testing Criteria and Numbers by Country httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscovid19testingEvaluating and Reporting Persons Under Investigationa httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtmlCDCAArefValhttps3A2F2Fwwwcdcgov2Fcoronavirus2F2019ncov2Fclinicalcriteriahtml|1 Thank you brother this is really kind|1 Thats something people keep forgetting The electrical system and medical system requires workers People will still need food so stores will have to be open deliveries will have to be carried out which means drivers and gas stations warehouse workers refineries etc People on prescription medication will still need their prescriptions filled I work in agriculture research and were approaching spring planting which means getting equipment serviced buying fuel taking delivery of seeds The list goes on If someone can work from home great but many people cant and its not even about them not having vacations or living pay check to pay check its because for society to continue you must have roles filled|1 And I think were seeing it in other areas than just medicine Some prison in Ohio are releasing non dangerous inmates because CV can spread like wildfire through prisons the US has always had way more people behind bars than comparable countries but we are only now realizing that it could prove problematicEvery state has had the capacity to implement or expand vote by mail but many states are only doing it now despite the fact vote by mail makes it much easier for people to vote|1 eh I mean yeah but saying Egypt is an African country is like saying Russia is an Asian country|1 Heres another pretty accurate US Tracker it seems a bit more accurate as the St Louis case didnt seem to show up httpswwwcoviduscomcoronavirususahttpswwwcoviduscomcoronavirususa|1 That is an insane jump in numbers in France I have a trip to Paris booked for the first week of April |0 Lol|1 Iran is spreading it to other countries faster than China was all countries should have stopped flights with Iran|0 To invent their own They were offered a kit to replicate We said nah well make our own Huge mistake 1 of 387592875|1 Yep You can hear random lbc callers with a sufficient grasp of what needs to be done to slow this The government knows full well but they simply do not care Its run by sociopaths who will close parliament and flee when things get bad|0 All my classes are online and I have no job atm I only go out to the grocery store to get food and such Im taking precautions and I bought Clorox disinfectant wipes and wipe down every surface I come into contact with I also wash my hands after touching almost anything now Its a little bit of over kill but it helps ease my anxiety a bit|1 Dude looks like a lady|1 US Government learning from the best|1 lol every restaurant here in Florida is packed even the Chinese ones everyones having a great time here beaches are packed too tourists are everywhere no doomandgloomers here|1 Would punching him in the face be legitimate in that situation Just asking for a friend|1 So if the pope did succumb to corona virus do you think they would let his 2IC George Pedo Pell out of prison in Australia to take on the job|0 When they say play by the rules they mean bureaucracy There may be rules of infection control but Id imagine they have no bureaucracy for those rules|0 I think its perfectly plausible it was accidentally released Though I havent read the linked article|1 I understand your irritation but why do you think schools beg for cleaning supplies at the beginning OF EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL YEAR Having spent 10 years working in education I can attest to this while Im sure you as a parent are doing the correct and responsible action by sending supplies in at least 20 of parents cant be bothered to send in paper or pencils let alone Clorox wipes And you absolutely cannot expect teachers contribute any more financially although Im sure a large portion are again spending their astoundingly minuscule paychecks to buy cleaning products that you think they should have And yes youre right they should be there As for the industrial level cleaning supplies that would disinfect and sanitize the schools that I agree the schools should have that isnt gonna happen either That implies that state governments would have to be fiscally responsible and use the money that is collected through taxes and government grants correctly And by the by if folks would feed their kids breakfast or send them to school with things like coats maybe teachers would have more money for cleaning supplies And Im not pointing the finger at lowincome families here Im talking people that have enough and cant be bothered to spend it on necessities but have the newest iPhone Sorry I got on a tangent This is just the way it is I actually can think of 5 different examples right off where I watched teachers buy school supplies while parents bought crap like pool tables for their family instead|1 Thats great news|1 This post needs better visibility|1 no thats naproxen|0 Can you come with me sir It looks like youve had a bit too much to think|1 Surprised Amazon hasnt done this considering that they are HQd in Seattle|1 Montgomery county PA Governor shut down schools and non essential retail yesterday Costco parking lot was an utter madhouse I didnt go inside and friends report supermarkets wiped clean of TP etc|1 Time isnt wasted when youre getting wasted|1 Im sure the cartels will take care of that Why do you think it only one |1 More than half the medical volunteers who went to Wuhan are party members|1 I would love to see that phoyo|1 not if you can slam the equivalent of 300 gin and tonics daily|0 I personally think schools should be closed by now but honestly I think there may be other factors that we arent aware of that may need consideration before that particular measureFor example I London about a third of children live in poverty I cant remember the exact stat but a great number of them have no access to food beyond free school meals It would require additional infrastructure to feed those children without the school system in placeSo if theyre not careful they may cause more harm than good with itThat said its ridiculous that were even in a situation where thats a concern and it could have been dealt with weeks ago in preparationFurthermore if you are at school and you are very worried about this then it is time to take individual action to protect yourself and your family Remove yourself from the threat by calling in sick We are close the holidays now and Id be shocked if they dont close the schools following the holidays so you wont even have long to account for Taking a bit of sick time off school is hardly a capital offence so just do what you need to doEspecially if you are living with elderly relatives|0 Yes the eyes are vulnerable|1 It is a wellestablished fact that NBA players are big fans of strip clubs too I recall someone did a statistical analysis showing that a particular player performs worse in cities with better strip clubsI cannot easily imagine an environment better for transmitting coronavirus than a strip club Its mitigated only by the fact that the crowd size is limited|0 When the CDC said time to prepare and have 23 weeks of food When has the government been right I dont care what my friends think or family When my sister comes knocking how do you say no And I quote No worse than the flu Grr 1 percent is less the 2 percent Since I love her I have planned accordingly|0 HOWEVER just a heads up to everyone who is quitting which is of course awesome from someone who has quit many times currently going on 35 years smoke free You will feel shittyat first and at seemingly random pointsAs your lungs heal and cilia regrow you may actually start to cough more and even get a hacking cough You do not have the Wuhan You are just rebooting your filtration system and theres a lot to get toOf course you will also feel shitty cravings and maybe be irritable sometimes It sucks Take deep breaths oddly people forget that when smoking youre often taking deep breaths and thats part of what relaxing Get support from friends and family and colleaguesOh And foster a dog Its the best distraction it disrupts your usual routine which is centered around smoke breaks its great exercise and its stress relieving AND youre saving a life I never felt ok having a dog around when I was a smoker because I felt bad for them so once I quit that was the biggest reward I could give myselfGood luck to all|1 Hell a bunch of random redditors saw this coming since January People around here have been saying to shut the borders declare emergency pandemic whatever since Wuhan Its crazy|0 What precautions did the hospital take to ensure u didnt spread to others Just gave u a mask and u sat in triage area for a long time or were you isolated right away What precautions did the doctor take during the assessment|1 Theres a 1 in 10 chance they are right and Boris takes greatest Briton ever title from Churchill|1 Apple just closed all stores worldwide except in China where they reopened their stores If any company would know the actual reality of the viruses spread in China its those mega companies like apple and google We also have tons of international groups in the ground confirming the same thing about hospitals not seeing new cases come in and that cities seem to be returning to normal|1 Fucking embarrassing|0 Oh shit I have a condition where my body attacks my esophagus basically Eosinopholic esophagitis I didnt think it would pose a risk factor because its more like allergies than a real immune system malfunction but|0 Washing your hands thatll save you from the virus that lives 3 hours in the air|1 It truly is The amount of 60 year olds I still see going out for pointless errands makes me sad and very concerned|0 here is another one httpscoronastatscohttpscoronastatsco they got clean interface too|1 Catastrophic would be if Covid19 mutated off into Covid19B which is has 30 or 40 mortality rateHaha did you just make that up|0 This happens for so many things People see one isolated case and use it to say the entirety of China is like that|1 Former inmate here yea definitely a pending asswhooping People value their sleep in jail Besides being immersed in a good book sleep is the only other escape from your living hell|1 Thanks Do you have a link to it Curious to see how high up it is in their list of possible treatments now|1 This is how you take outstanding proactive measures|1 American culture I feelclike most cultures as a french person everybody is still saying to this day that it is not bad at all and it will go away in a month|1 Their taxation rate is actually pretty good Another good thing is that they do not tax on worldwide income You only pay taxes on income remitted into Singapore That means if you are a digital nomadremote worker who lives in Singapore and get paid into a bank account overseas you can pretty much make bankTheres a reason why many billionaires choose Singapore as their place of residence Excellent healthcare affordable and delicious food worldclass education NUS has a higher university ranking worldwide than NYU and public transportation not to mention Orchard RoadThey also has a 330beds hospital dedicated specifically for infectious diseases including the most dangerous diseases in the world such as Ebola and Marburg while in Europe countries are struggling with using normal ICUs|1 It wont help I meet a A LOT more people at work than in my free time|1 Exactly The fate of Italy has had no effect on these people|0 The pope went around to people that had the coronavirus and shook their hands as solidarity to the people with the virus and other people in the general vicinity And now he is sick because of his own stupidity|0 Frozen pizza is a terrible thing to kill for The power could go out and then no more frozen goods Canned goods bottled water is what you should go for|0 Its sad that I have to rely on contacts at hospitals and other people in various subs to know what is happening in my neighborhood No one in The Woodlands not even the township was alerted when Memorial Herman has the first 2 cases They were back from Egypt for 12 days before they went to the hospital There was zero info shared if they were out and about put under quarantine at some point when or what stores they went to in the area nothingI realize that maybe some or a lot is or was due to lack of communication between towns the city and counties The cases in The Woodlands fell into Harris county but The Woodlands goes by information shared by Montgomery county There is one pretty big area that falls into Harris hopefully they have that issue cleared up by now Who knowsI just assume it is everywhere now and have for awhile and act accordingly But I worry about everyone around me not taking it seriously at all due to local and state communication issues and transparency|1 Its pretty incredible Amazing scenery in many partsbeautiful womengood foodand Tel Aviv is like NYC big city vibes but on the Mediterranean Sea w a great beach|1 And Denmark 440 cases does nothing lmao|0 Fellow New Yorker here and I feel where youre coming from 100 It is scary stuff I live in Manhattan and have been at home for the past week and a half due to a leave of absence after the death of a family member I am very worried about returning to work I work out in the open in the middle of Times Square But to echo a sentiment I saw in this thread hopefully tonight is a turning point in terms of public understanding Hopefully it illuminates the severity of the situation for folks who are otherwise skeptical What I will say is that we can only take things day by day Worrying about the possibilities is not the same as taking precautions and will only stress you out It is helpful to take proactive measures and focus on preparedness Im not exaggerating when I say to remain vigilant but take it one day at at a time Deal with circumstances as they come I say this because I am trying to practice the same If you promise to try I will try too This is also a thread written by a nurse on Twitter that I found extremely helpful httpstwittercomsmasheroteacupsstatus1237711448064884739s19Hang in there |1 ProbablyGovernment mandates closing of barsPeople theyre inhibiting my freedomsGovernment waits too late to close anythingSame People The government failed us|0 I dont see how not closing anything is managing it Thats spreading it Then from that initial spread it becomes exponential The exponential would be faaaar less is initial infection was lowWhat the uk is doing is giving the virus a huge run up for the main impact|1 S Koreas response was a lot more proactive than Italys Ideally you dont want the shit to have already hit the fan to start taking it seriously as a country|1 Thats probably the only good thing about living under a totalitarian government If things need to be acted on extremely quickly the government can just make it happen and no one can object|0 So look no further than this thread for why I made my comment Someone posted a video of patients having seizures which is quickly corrected by the subsequent posters The parent post ends with I hope I didnt scare anyone which is why accuracy is important There have been a lot of posts on this sub about stress anxiety panic attacks and there was even someone talking about suicide I am not saying to cast this aside or not take it seriously the opposite It should be taken extremely seriously But its also important to try to be as accurate as possible in my opinion|0 Its the truth dude Truth doesnt care about your families feelings|1 Thanks|1 It seems to spread very quietly in communities for a while and then BAM cause horrible disease in a dense area of older people It will probably be a few months before there is enough data to tell but it really does look like super spreaders might play a huge role in these terrible outbreak areas Or maybe the disease is both worse and spreads that much faster in dense areas of elders If 65 shed more virus and the minimal infectious dose for a 65 year old is much lower than 50 year old that speeds everything up massively 50 of deaths in the US are from a single center The other 50 are just a death here a death there etc I am going to be a little bit lax with social distancing around my peer group but I sure as hell am not going hanging out anywhere near 65 year olds for a while Probably one of the most important measures to continue is not allow outside visitors to assisted living facilities which really sucks|0 Most countries are doing nothing except telling their people none of the common precautions is useful There are many people taking their words for it|1 I felt like I was well preparedfood kids medicine etc Then I thought what do we need on a monthly basisremember the feminine hygiene products|1 There are reports of people possibly getting reinfected after recovering We dont know how immunity works with this virus yet if it does at all Banking on herd immunity is incredibly stupid and shortsightedEdit Also around half of cases under the age of 50 require ICU hospitalizationhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfj1owhoverhalfofthecoronaviruspatientsin This isnt something you just want to get so you can get it over with This shit is no fucking joke and can cause permanent lung damagePeople need to wake the fuck up and get their heads out of their asses We only have one real option here and buckle up because its going to take a long time This is our new normal for the foreseeable future|0 Im interested to know if you identified any value in more aggressively treating comorbids ie better heart failure disease control better COPD management and coinfection prevention Influenza and pneumonia immunisation as risk mitigation strategies These are the ones I consider as a way to reduce mortality and demand in scarce resources|1 The Spanish flu also happened in a time without knowledge of how infections work inability to detect how the virus spreads throughout the population and the ability to treat patients who are suffering respiratory diseases ventilation etc Theres a MASSIVE difference between this virus and the Spanish flu nearly all deaths have some kind of comorbidity or are elderly Spanish flu killed healthy people with no comorbidities Expecting this is going to ANYWHERE like the Spanish flu is insane and not supported by the facts|0 Europe is fuckedEurope is now the main epicenter14 millions of Europeans are going to dieBecause Europe has 746 millions inhabitantsOn average 60 of them will be infected by the coronavirus 478 millionsAnd 3 of that is 14000000 peoplesUnless of course a radical biological discovery in the next weeks and not more|0 dude all you have to do to quarantine a cruise ship is leave the dock lmao|1 If the patient is strict with his quarantine then I can see the benefit if his symptoms are very mildIf he was in the hospital hed be taking up a bed and hospital supplies Every interaction with a nurse or doctor would require gowning up and applying ppe if there isnt a special isolation room if there is any error in the process than it can lead to hospital staff spreading it to other patients and medical workersInstead you could just send a community health nurse to check up on them once a day instead Hiring a person to drop the guy off groceries and supplies is probably more cost effective than staying in a hospital bed I know Im picking at straws here but Im just brainstorming Dont really need to be in the hospital if the guy is tolerating the illness|0 Okay I know I shouldnt talk politics but you guys really should burn down your healthcare system tell insurance companies to fuck off and rebuild it from scratch This is insane|0 In my city in Michigan the police shut down an annual 4K college student house crawl for St Patricks day complete with police checkpoints in the area where you had to show your ID to prove you lived in the area The bars were still packed though Its pretty disheartening|1 Operation Sovereign BordersOperation Sovereign Borders OSB is a border protection operation led by the Australian Defence Force aimed at stopping maritime arrivals of asylum seekers to Australia The operation is the outcome of a 2013 federal election policy of the Coalition which commenced on 18 September 2013 after the election of the Abbott Government The operation has implemented a zero tolerance posture towards what it has termed Illegal Maritime Arrivals a change in terminology from the previous governments Irregular Maritime Arrivals in Australia in conjunction with mandatory detention in offshore detention facilitiesThe current Commander Operation Sovereign Borders Major General Craig Furini was appointed to the command on 14 December 2018 PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Thats wildly inaccurate for a number of reasons Weve seen 0 indication of anything close to that kind of mortality|1 And why do you think the markets arent worried about it|1 Some people will still be calling it no big deal and trying to downplay when the army is driving down their street broadcasting to stay indoors and their neighbor is getting taken out in a body bag Well he was old and had high blood pressure He probably would have died anyways When it will hit home is when one of their older relatives or a friend gets sick and dies|0 Part of me thinks its a situation where 1 They dont want it to be or 2 We have gotten to a point in society we dontcant trust our media So when shit actually happens like this its an automatic well its just fake news Glad shes coming around thou U 2 stay safe|1 Bill Gates knew we werent ready 4 years agoHis Ted Talk httpsyoutube6Af6bwyiwI|0 mostly sad stories |0 It has zero to do with whether the healthcare is for profit or not The CDC FDA and the WHO are all non profit entities and massively bungled this crisis The National Stockpile which is run by the government and not for profit is supposed to address this need for surge usage of supplies but as we are finding out is woefully short of what is truly needed Carrying inventory costs money which ultimately manifests as prices If hospitals prior to this crisis had been stocking 10x the amount of supplies they actually carried healthcare would be even more expensive in the US than it already is|0 Because he was outed for being such a prick|0 They let everyone in their country travel around the world during Lunar New Year the heaviest Chinese travel time of the year during the ramp up of the outbreak They quarantined 400 million people after they had already spread that shit to every continent on earthAnd before people jump on me over where were they travelling huh Chinese people living all around the world went back to China the hotspot of the virus to visit family Many Chinese living in China left for other countries as well|0 Best thing Ive read on this sub thanks so much|1 What does that say about the severity of the virus Friend of mine and me were talking about how bad it can here Wont be too bad if we are only now getting sever cases|0 New Jersey not the same I know but one if the most heart wrenching and devastating days|0 You can get 4 of them in a week and it still be a 1 in 100 year event People often fail to understand this on flood maps|0 Thats the one place you can never get the hell are they scared of|1 Cases per capital would be a better indicator|1 Alright pal calm yourself|1 And for apartment buildings Lots are huge corporations who have a lot of people that will be struggling|0 Hey stay safe I live near the NH border so Im keeping an eye on our state closely|1 Once enough people have it you dont bother testing people Sick people are assumed to have it Simple as that Deaths which fit the symptomology are ascribed to it Its a great time to be an assassin with an agent which mimics the symptoms|1 I go offline for 2 hours and I miss this and what I can only assume was an absolutely legendary press briefing from the Heroic Leader of The Free World What else is happening that I need to catch up on|1 Yeah I took it off for security but no one said a word to me about it|0 Thank you for the reply my first thought is what the hell am I wrong not the first time so I did a little checking britannicacomhttpsbritannicacom Taiwan Taiwan is part of China the political system was democratic in form but not very much so in operation Education military etc are staffed by mainland China Of course I must say Taiwan does try for democracy Taiwan has declared independence many times but China said it would use military force against Taiwan if it took such action China is a communist country and its been very clear they have no intention of becoming a democracy Im rooting for Taiwan that they can be a totally independent country without big brother watching while they take each step As far as preferring communism socialism or a dictatorship I prefer capitalism Last when people are frightened they do some crazy things they normally would not do so I still think two years in prison is harsh Trump 2020|0 Straight ethanol alcohol EPA 843681 only needs to wet the surface for 1 min|1 Please do not postcomment links to pages containing deliberate misinformation rCOVID19 has scientifically accurate informationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 2 weeks should be more than enough to finalize divorce arrangements and split all the stuff up Id suggest the guy use his time wisely and get the lawyer on skype call Some courts are even staying open and new paperwork can be filed electronically Not sure about in the countries involved or if infidelity counts as legimitate cause Looks like providing proof wont be an issue|1 Would love to put myself forward as a volunteer Unfortunately due to particular family members Im concerned for I dont think I can volunteer due to the potential increase in risk it might represent for them |1 Happy cake daaa ohhh wait fuck nevermind dont eat that|1 Im glad you did I have a cousin in Mexico right now on spring break and I see her and bunch of her friends at bars and restaurants its really sad|1 Im not confident itll workSo far every professional Ive seen commenting on it thinks its moronic|0 Can you ELI5 Does this mean that even with social distancing measures over a long period of time we will still overwhelm the US and UK healthcare capacity 8fold|0 Im back what was it I was supposed to do again sorry forgot|0 Well its a balance Too many bonds and inflation eats your lunch most retirement portfolios use 6040 stock bond split changes depending on age So you need stock exposure but large drops like this are just hard to insure against and are really painful Younger people now get the chance to buy cheaper stocks so long term they come out ok A 75 year old investor may not recover|1 Canadian red tape at its finest The sad reality though is that anyone who reached the point of death was a person who needed ICU care to survive When the beds are 100 full all they can do is send people away to isolated palliative care to die In a country like Canada most of the deaths are eventually going to be caused by full beds and no space|0 Is that actually how it worked Just because he said YES doesnt mean funds were allocatedappropriated Shes a member of Congress That means she and her peers in Congress have to allocate the money Thats her job She did a bang up job at getting a sound byte and some press coverage though|1 And so what The result is the same as if he did not get tested Stay home unless it gets significantly worseThere is no magic pill that makes corona go away But most everyone will be just fine without any medication over the counter medication Therefore stay home if you feel sick Its really that simple|0 If it comes down to it sheep produce their own toilet paper Nice soft fluffy toilet paper|1 Man if thats all that comes of this and my parents start washing their damned hands it would be a Christmas miracle Ever tried to lecture a parent on hand washing |1 Well thats pretty bad news Hope they didnt infect the staff or other patients|1 There was a stabbing at our local Sams last night No deaths thankfully but its getting real Im a basic prepper as I have enough supplies for a week for us all but I thank my son for prodding me to get more prepared a month ago before it all went crazy I have an order in to be delivered today as I dont want to use my prep stock until I have to so Im curious how many items wont be available What I told people especially those with kids is that if it didnt happen then all is well and good If panic buying did happen would they want to be looking in the eyes of hungry children knowing they are responsible for their care and have to say you werent prepared|1 Feel free to DM and I can send you my work email and keep you updated Also provide the source code if you are in an area where it could be useful|1 They are running low on donations money If church were a business this is a bad business decision because they are killing all their clients particularly the seniors|0 Its honestly the only thing Ive been able to think about for at least a month I wake up and immediately check the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus map then google news then reddit A good friend told me yesterday I need to take a step back for a bit but I just cant my brain doesnt work that way|1 Theres a stark switch in reporting today in Quebec Editorialist who were last week saying they did not care about the virus are now running headlines such as This is no flu and We need to take this seriously Government action follows public opinion so I can see it moving in the right direction But for Quebec to still on this date state that only returning people from abroad are at risk and will be tested seems more absurd than ever|0 How are we protecting old people though What measures are in place to flatten the curve How is letting the virus burn through our society in anyway helping the NHS Were doing nothing were already in Italy territory The numbers are low because were barely testing and even the few tests done show the numbers doubled overnight Imagine what the real figures are Italy had 3500 new cases today their health system was crippled weeks ago averaging 200 deaths a day now theyve not peaked yet Ask them if we should shut schools and social distance Boris is doing nothing and selling it as science Its all spin hes a politician its the only thing hes good at In hindsight most people will see how royally they fucked this Or hell spin it again and the gullible public will buy it Same way they did brexit and austerity I despair for the UKUntil a few days ago despite everything I loved this country Now Im contemplating getting the fuck out when this is all done|0 Um its not dead it just got really efficient we mainly make military industrial complex items|1 Unfortunately our website is currently unavailable in most European countries We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our awardwinning journalismThanks Obama|1 Yeah Ive been checking out this sub a bit but there is a strong Facebook boomer vibe|1 If pay attention to the denominator we will understand the abnormal high rate conclusion from this paperIts obvious the confirmed cases in Wuhan cityCT abnormal cases but not PCR and absolutely therere faaaar more cases not yet been confirmed|0 do you think anyone would be interested in reading about it if I had a blog or smth I dont think my experience is any different from everybody elses and compared to what ppl are going thru in the most affected countries its nothing journaling only for myself would be nice tho I used to do it in the past back when I was doing very badly|1 Thats more like 3|1 Hes already proposed cutting the budget for the USs annual contribution to WHO I mean in the last day or so Reddit was REEEEEEEEing about that earlier today because WHO is doing such a bangup job after all and Orange Man BadTrump already cut the budget for the CDChttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponse and undid basically everything that was done to protect against fastmoving epidemics like the prior Ebola outbreak including this one You wanna bitch about WHO Go ahead But Orange Man already pissed away the extensive preparations made specifically for this situation under President Obama No worries Im sure Trump will put Kushner the Boy Wonder right on it though s|0 Big Whoop My friend is helping in Seattle nurse people come in with symptoms they test them and send them home Test results take 48 hours to get back Youre all gonna get it so stop panicking|0 Thanks greg|1 Curiously Daniel Menichella who led the CureVacs attempts to develop a vaccine against Covid19 stepped down on March 13 as CEO of the company days after his meeting with Trump to be replaed by company founder Ingmar Hoerr No reason was given for the departureTalk about a smoking gun|0 Oof I guess your going down with us too North american solidarity|1 whats the whole point of being the worlds richest country and brag about being powerful 1 etc if you cannot provide such a basic commodity to your citizens but all other countries can do itThe answer to that is pretty complicated but the short version is that for the past several decades weve had our priorities out of whack It more or less started when Ronald Reagan convinced people back in the 80s that the government was a problem and we started electing more and more politicians at every level of government who believed that a smaller government is always better It turns out that when you run a government on the principle that it should do as little as possible you end up with a system that isnt very good at providing services to people even when everything is going well and absolutely awful at responding to a crisis|0 Not correct at all 2 problems in a system are worse Also asthma exacerbations are very common whenever you have lung pathology Think of 2 resistors in a series circuit This is not a parallel circuit if that makes sense|0 What quarantine There is no restriction to the family members of the staffs exposed or unexposed|0 A friend just told me in a public washroom environment the virus can last up to 2 hours and if its not concentrated it wont infect|1 Looks like US testing is actually picking up now that private labs are involved A good sign if they can continue to ramp up capacity at this rateKeep in mind all of these infections existed prior to detection and were unknown and spreading Much better to be getting everyone testedNow we just need to do more|1 Let us embrace our inner screaming gophers|0 Its literally a cult mate Its a religious system focussed on the veneration of a single entity Thats the definition of a cult and size doesnt dilute the craziness that cults inspire|1 Ah I see that youre a moron 1 Viral load to cause a fever is not the same as the viral load to cause a positive result 2 The quality of the tests may be insufficient to accurately identify when the viral load is above the detectable amount|1 Exactly what I saidIf this basically gets any traction in this country you can kiss basically any city it impacts significantly goodbye and all the infrastructure and industry coming with it|1 but opened another door of oppurtunity with a critically high risk multi country epidemic not the Pword that must not be spoken|0 i really hope that the baby boomers take fox news to the grave with them fox news is the pied piper for dangerously stupid people|0 Yes it must be used as a shield And thats how Im proposing it be used to bar plaintiffs from asserting a claim in courtIf these landlords had said we will not evict you in consideration of one dollar and the tenants communicated their acceptance by promising to pay one dollar this would be a completely binding amendment to a contractThe only deficiency is the consideration PE is a recognized rule of equity with good case law behind it I am sure any legal aid clinic could win this in court for any tenant so long as they come with clean handsBut like I said in my edit I cannot see courts even staying open during most of the next three months anyways seeing as how this pandemic is starting to ramp up in NYC|1 A proper manicure can actually be pretty dangerous and introduce more cuts especially when the cuticle is trimmed or abrasive tools like files and pumice are used which microabrade the skin At bare minimum you should never have your cuticle trimmed and certainly not by a salon worker using a sharp tool If they need to be managed they should ideally be simply soaked and pushed back Which doesnt even begin to address how hard it is to be sure that all tools and equipment at any given salon have been properly sterilizedI have family that do medical footcare and they have basically scared me of ever going near a nail salon|1 Ok so if we dry run the midrange of your r0 scenario using what we think we know about COVID19 and symptoms develop around a week later and say a quarter of people dont show symptomsWe should have seen as many as 972 cases symptomatic presentation in about 729 and assuming it takes a week after onset of symptoms to get bad serious disease in as many as 50 people 20 of 243 symptomatic cases that have been ill for 2 weeks or moreIs it possible that 50 serious cases of viral pneumonia could have gone unnoticed|0 BEST COMMENT|1 Nope the netherlands GGD has been testing a lot of cases the last couple of daysweeks All came back negative except the 2 confirmed cases from yesterdaytodayEdit they only tested people when they had a reason to do so like when they were already sick traveled to italy recently etc|0 On a serious note My family is catholic We also practice our religion I know priests that are credible and I like But nobody really cares about popes or bishops The pedophile scandals really hit their popularity hard My grandma wouldnt even flinch And she would break your fingers if she caught you with a ham sandwich during lent|1 Pathetic how the United States must have their own die before some sensible measure are taken|0 I guess Ill throw in my two RTX 2080 tonight|0 Sequels do better at the box office|1 Behold a pale horse and his name was death|0 farfalle are good why italians dont like them|1 insanity free speech movement 20 is going to be soooo complicated it was complicated in the 60s and that was pre internet|0 Republican playbook 101 of how to get rid of government bodiesstep one assume control of the head of the bodystep two render said government body obsolete with inept and corrupt practicesstep three argue for disassembling the government bodystep four flaunt about how theyre keeping fiscally conservative by cutting spending do the corrupt shit that they would otherwise do now that regulations are gutted from said body and it doesnt have enough power to regulateIts all calculated corona virus has probably a 12 fatality rate from the cases so far sacrificing 12 of the population isnt shit for coporate fucks that elected trump and his goons|0 I will be messaging you in 10 days on 20200326 165803 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003262016580320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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still available Good luck|1 Exactly slowing the infection is the best we can do if it explodes then hospitals cant deal with the sudden spike in severe cases because they dont have the resources and equipment needed and more people dieThe more we slow it the smoother the impact on healthcare is and the less overwhelmed they get|1 Ive already heard this IRL that all of the virus news is just hype to ruin the economy to make trump look bad|0 if mask were unlimited then yeah the best possible scenario is the whole population wear a mask so no one can infect another person In reality not a single country has enough chirurgical mask for its entire population Certainly when knowing that asymptomatic transmission and I quote WHO official rapport isnt a major driver of transmission and its relatively rare page 12 WHO 70000 cases study|1 Not collecting a paycheck and sitting at homeBut there comes a point where you no longer have a home And neither do your parents and kids who are living with you|0 i read this like 8 hours ago and its haunted me every 15 minutes or so since|0 While not wearing protection lol|0 Death is knocking at their door What The Fuck|0 I pay 5 no matter what service I get If I go to emergency room and spend a week in intensive care my bill is 5|0 I did not expect this many new cases wow Reported 81 medical cases|1 You never took a class in probability have you Your logical equivalent would be I heard of someone I know winning the Powerball Jackpot so the odds must not be as low as they say it isYou do know what unlucky means|1 Yeah Im an older millennial and tired of this ageist crap I went to a Sanders rally and it was beautiful how multigenerational it was|1 After living in japan for the last 5 years this guys description is exactly like how things work here Its a giant cluster fuck of a bureaucracy thats rife with petty favoritism And they fucking love paperworkI mean theres a lot of good things about japan and its definitely both very safe and very professional but it doesnt surprise me at all this guy was fucked with and pulled outnot allowed to recommend changes to cover some incompetent uppermiddle management twats image Thats what happens when people are promoted based on how long theyve been working somewhere rather than actual ability|1 Same here accept it does make me cough like crazy still Im taking a break and doing just edibles But it aint the same|1 Mad respects|0 The young die too Everyone are at risk The young are dying in Italy The young get the pneumonia but they have a better chance of pulling through except if they need to be in an ICU and theres no room|1 your rebuttals made zero sense to be quite honestI sound like a fascist how Nice smear buddy but that doesnt work especially when I am trying to protect people from falling very sickWhat authority you ask The federal government just declared a national emergency under that authority they can for instance take a plant say tesla for example which is shut down and convert it for PPE It can be done and it absolutely should be done because the hospitals will soon run out The notion that it cant be done because we simple dont do it in the country is ludicrous There are billions of dollars ready to be appropriated for companies that want to expand their production like 3m to fight thisYour arguments literally hold no credibility what so ever Good day|1 Thats a pretty matter of fact statementEveryone is reconsidering global supply chains like should we really be wholly dependent on China for key medical devices like n95 face masks|1 Yep If you have even the most basic common sense you have a massive advantage over most people|1 Im 15 and live 3 hours away from Seattle Im pretty fucking terrified for my self friends and family Mostly everyone I talk to thinks its just the flu and are not prepared for it My dad knows about this subreddit and checks on the news daily which lead him to stocking up on supplies such as masks suits food etc|0 Yeah but theres karma to be farmed here|1 This sounds like China early on What a stupid response|0 I got that and decided to see if it was true so I asked to go on unlimited workfromhome And it worked|1 Time to stock up The next few weeks are going to very depressing|0 Legault says he understands hes asking a lot and putting restrictions on peoples livesWhat we are doing now is going to save lives saying we will win the battle though he knows he is asking a lot of QuebecersPublic health director for Que says now is not a time to panic but to work together Understands it is upsetting for society and there will be transmission but now is the time to act to flatten the curb and think of our most vulnerable Everyone has a responsibility in this|0 It would be household Me my dad and Gf live here So it would just go to my dad cause he owns the house wtf is this shit all 3 of us will lose our jobs thats over 3 grand a month lost WTF is this one per household bs|0 Why are people so inconsiderate Why implicate others even its time for the government to do something to such inconsiderate assholes Probably learn from Singapore to be strict about this What the Singapore government did was to strip a foreign man of his status as a permanent resident after breaking his requirement to stay at home after travelling from China he has also been barred from reentering the country Singapore certainly doesnt take this matter lightly such as Two work passesrevokedhttpswwwmomgovsgnewsroompressreleases20200213twoworkpassesrevokedforreentryintosingaporewithoutpriorapprovalfor reentry into Singapore without prior approval Coronavirus carrierfaces jail in SingaporehttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthsingaporecoronaviruscarrierfacesjailinsingaporeforlyingovermovementsidUSKCN20K1E7il0for lying over movements Singaporecharges couplehttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200226singaporechargestwoforimpedingviruscontacttracingeffortsfor impeding virustracing effort|0 Starbucks is not allowing anyone to bring their own cup right now Hope youre getting yours elsewhere|1 U aint welcomed though |0 Agreed here in my area the teachers go on strike starting tomorrow and I think its perfect timing frankly|1 It was just over the weekend And yep thats the city Sydney where our community transmissions are occuring Someone who just arrived in Darwin from Sydney has also just been confirmed to have it So its already much bigger than we know and spreading to the other states|1 I hope youre right|1 Take a look at SARS Started at 4 ended at 12 due to growth rate and the long average time from infection to fatality Other influenza strains have started higher but thats because they were almost impossible to isolate from the normal flu Right now the resolved case data puts CFR at 6|0 Also some of the politicians in Washington DC have turned their backs on science in favor of profits but rest assured we have some of the best scientists around the world working on fighting this thing Things will work out They always do|1 oh big time yikes seems like lots of 4chan overlapi was called a ccp shill and keyboard warrior yesterday because i got a new phone and couldnt access my old account so i had to make this new one i literally gave someone my old account name just to prove it which i really shouldve have but whatever all because im just not being a doomer about everything i dont understand why they can accuse you of something with zero proof but youre the one who has to provide them of the evidence otherwise and not the other way around really severely flawed logic |0 Honestly I have reduced my mental health because all the stuff here has been giving me a 247 panic attackRemember to take breaks folks A lot of the predictions of doom and the end of civilization are all speculation so go about your life until it definitely isnt safe to do so|0 Same Thurgau No panic buyers or shit either in the Coop this morning|0 Raise awareness So that more infected people go out and buy masks that are then not available to the healthcare professionals that need them If your so worried about saliva droplets then dont go outside or into large groups but thinking that you can march around with impunity because you are wearing a mask erodes public confidence and can indirectly contribute to the spread of this contagion by taking resources from where they are needed most|0 Just flew out of Sint Maarten today Was a zoo at the airport my flight and hundreds of other peoples flights got canceled last minute Yesterday the Sxm govt limited gatherings to 100 people Neighboring St Barths is about to shut down all travel to their island Both places have confirmed cases Buckle up folks|0 The problem is not the number of deaths but how many go to intensive care and sub intensive careItaly for instance has 10 of the active cases along these brackets which is almost max capacity It means that if you have a serious car accident you might mot have a bed in hospital operations might be delayed all medical staff is moved to intensive care where possible|1 God dammit|1 China We have 80000 casesUSA China is clearly lying about figuresWorld USA how many cases do you have USA YES|1 It tells you to suck a lemon|0 Me too Im starting to agree with the docs and scientists who believe its been here for awhile|1 Its possible he could be an outlier young healthy people can die from the flu too not comparing this to the flu this is more severe obviously but if people can die from the flu they can sure as hell die from this Wish we had more data|0 Its the worst news to me it was my opinionNow if my grandma gets hit with this and ends up in the hospital or worse I would change my opinionIf I worried about everyone I would just be really sad all the time Maybe its a self preservation thing|0 Well China had a start of one the first human it jumped to Italy could have had many more people spreading at the start of their outbreak|1 Could you explain more Is warm weather going to help suppress this Or do you mean something else|1 We were already headed towards a crash at least as bad as 2008 before Corona even came on the horizon|0 Russia and Turkey are not at war|1 I always lick the tray clean before I put it back up|1 I mean while theres no proof leeks cure it they also dont really hurt either If it gives someone peace of mind in such a weird time and does no harm who cares I do agree for RISKY snake oils though|1 Quarantine should be respected in the effort of prevention But Id love to see your reaction when you are forcibly detained if you are not ill Or is this more of a pavlovs dog situation Salivate at the masters bell|1 hes pretty switched on with most things definitely a bit biased though although i do think his change my minds are pretty funny and agree with most of them|1 Chinese have been infiltrating western labs for years I assume these are their PR people how much foreign funding do they have No evidence has been found to disprove and China is eager to shift the blame They could at least apologize for the cover up|0 Better keep it open for the patients trapped in the other hospital collapse|0 I can imagine the silence from businesses might be saying some big change is coming The BBC programme this evening Announcement for tomorrowI know friends who have just started international travel for holiday they have to quarantine for 2 weeks regardless before coming back to the officeAnd Im okay I think the bombardment of news and situation is getting to me a little More anxiety panic than anything|1 Im 19 is there anything I need to do to qualify for said stimulus package I had a summer job lined up thats now most likely cancelled|0 Can you blame me The political situation is Chaotic|0 This is amazing thanks for sharing|1 Give you some perspective Im in Australia I live in NSW which is the state where Sydney is The state population is 75million of which 52 million live in Sydney We still arent testing enough but 14000 tests have been completed most in Sydney We have had a lot of our recent cases with recent travel to the US I hope the governments start to increase testing rather than sit back and wait for hell to break loose|0 According to Metaanalysis among the clinical characteristics of patients with 2019nCoV infection the incidence of fever is 909 the incidence of cough is 708 and the incidence of muscle soreness or fatigue is 41 The incidence of acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDS was 148 the incidence of abnormal chest CT was 956 the proportion of severe cases in all infected cases was 213 and the mortality rate of patients with 2019nCoV infection was 48 sourcehttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021820024539v1|0 Whos amazing|1 Ahahahahahahahahahahaha Virtue signaling is now a threat to the human race lmaoooooo|0 Does PTO in your case lump in sick days as wellAnd I also assume that weekends are not counted as PTO|0 Dr Zheng Wenhong leader of the Shanghai team of experts in the treatment of Novel Coronavirus Pneumonia cases and director of the department of infectious diseases at Shanghai Huashan Hospital Affiliated with Fudan University When pressed on whether or not the Novel Coronavirus was imported from elsewhere Dr Zhang Wenhong said he believes it originated in Wuhan If that was the case we should have seen patients emerging from different regions in the country around the same time rather than their concentration in WuhanChina cant deny it when the doctors from their own country confirm ithttpsgnewsorg127742|1 And when you do decide to get some ramen check out more than just top ramen I grew up and didnt know anything else Korean ramen indomie theres a whole world out there|1 The CEO at my company is the same way he feels that management are the only ones who can be trusted to work remotely In his mind everyone else would not be productive if they werent in the office being lorded over by their immediate supervisors Im IT and he doesnt even like it when I work remotely even though 90 of my job can be done without stepping foot in the office The arrogance and lack of trust from any company who has the capability to allow remote work but refuses to will eventually come back to bite them in the ass when this infection hits critical mass|0 I live 20 minutes outside city limits People are buying like they would for a hurricane but with less booze Stores are cleared out St Johns County where St Augustine is has only had one official case so far someone traveling through on the way to Daytona but the grocery stores have bumped their closing time to 8pm schools are closed extended their spring break by a week youth sports stopped and public events are canceled Beaches are still open There arent a lot of sick people everywhere but Old St Augustine is quite different from the rest of the area It is full of tourists from all over and because its just a small city with hundreds of individual attractions it isnt closed People are still out and about especially with the warm weather This could of course change but thats the pulse of the situation at the moment Personally I dont think its worth the trip There are so many people who visit there from other cities and states I just wouldnt risk it Just my opinion though|1 Is it on me I feel like its on me|1 The true case fatality rate of nCoV2019 is likely higher than 3 See Prof Gabriel Leungs talk from yesterdayhttpsyoutubeaYyH4N8VXvAt7120httpsyoutubeaYyH4N8VXvAt7120 He says the fatality rate in hospitals at this time 3 is too optimistic the entire course of the illness lasts a month it is likely that those who are seriously ill will yet die He also says that the people diagnosed at airports are not representative They were well enough to travel so were mild cases the fact that they recovered quickly cannot be used to suggest the illness is usually mild The true case fatality rate might be more like SARS It too seemed to have a lower fatality rate in the beginning of the outbreak 3 to 5 but in the end 17 of those infected diedProf Gabriel LeunghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGabrielLeung is one of the worlds foremost experts on the Coronavirus He was at the forefront of commanding the battle against SARS in 2003 About 12 the his talk in in English the rest is repeated in Chinese|0 Im going to guess the Chinese government releases confirmed case statistics and that individual hospitals are not releasing their statistics to the worlds news media The government can make up any statistics it wants and probably does It doesnt need to lock people in their homes to do it to keep them from being counted by hospitals I suspect the government is scared shitless at this point and thats why people in heavily affected areas are locked upPer the lovely flair given to me by a mod theyre convinced Im a Chinese agent Mouhahahaha BOO|1 Its not all old news The German study was only posted on March 8thThe story about the busride in China was published on March 9thAnd Im not sure in which country you are But here in The Netherlands officials are doing a very bad job at informing the public about this virus They say it doesnt spread while asymptomatic and they claim it only survives outside the body for a few hours while evidence shows otherwise Thats what Im addressing in the video|0 What involves a national quarantineI mean Im still having to work in my office Hellthe boomers in here just ordered Pizza Hut for lunch like it was just another day|1 Im a long term prepper toilet paper for days food for days My dad and gf laughed at me but no my gf is scared as shit Lucky I prepped a long time ago were going shopping this week to pick over whatever scraps are left but its nbd as I already prepared for this eventuality I called it preparing for the zombie apocalypse but I just use that as a catch all phrase for any large scale disaster|0 Seriously China wouldnt halt its economy for two months if it wasnt for a good reason|0 This is a man of the people No questions|0 Yeah but that was like back then we are so much better and smarter than people in 1918 Right Right right|1 Wonderful|1 Hygiene culture will definitely change I hope this is a wakeup call about our economic system too A lot of people cant stay home because they cant afford to not be paid Its one of many problems that Universal Basic Income would solve|1 Its really amazing that this thread exists It almost feels like satire I am an expert in the creation of medical devices Its been my entire career I have 15 patents I have designed several class 2 and 3 medical devices that are now in tens of thousands of patients worldwide What is being described here is dangerous and foolish and the posters here dont even know what they dont know Your point about sterilization is just the tip of the iceberg in regards to catastrophic risks that the OP is unaware of The fdas approval process exists for a very good reason People saying that the fda is corrupt and unnecessarily strict have no idea what they are talking about There is no corrupt situation where the fda gives money to their buddies in industry thereby causing inefficiencies edit spelling that we could just bypass to save the day The fda is there to protect people FROM dangerous devices And they dont even have the funds to police the market sufficiently This kind of amateur crowdsourcing of the design and manufacture of lifesustaining medical devices would kill many many people|0 Ignorance and selfishness|0 Please name some Americans that has disappeared or died mysteriously after complaining about US handling of COVID19How about please name a time when he US ran over its own people with tanks to suppress decentPlease tell me about cases were the US has interned a million people for reeducation because of their religionPlease find me some information about the US harvesting organs from prisonersThe US aint perfect by any stretch of the imagination but if you seriously dont know or dont care about whats going on and has gone on in China to its own citizens just sadNOTE I really wanted to go all ad hominem on you for your attack on me I didnt Nice try with the hypocrite thing It almost worked|0 You mean the group that protects and gives us our freedom Im good with that|1 That is utterly ridiculous People in TN I hope you are just as infuriated and will call your representatives tomorrow I will be bugging the crap out of themI could care less the age or sex if the infected person but tell us where it is so we can protect ourselves This is wrong|0 I have a box of surgical face masks on hand for very specific uses only I have an inhibited immune system due to my autoimmune disorder as I take a certain drug to keep it under control I do not bother to wear it out in public but may need them in case I need to be where a large number of sick people are like at a doctors officeHere is how they workThey have a hydrophilic plastic coating that rapidly absorbs aerosol droplets away from the outer surface of the mask The first and second layers of the mask are treated with different compounds that inactivate influenza viruses Single use only The mask does not eliminate the risk of contracting any disease or infection For use in medical settings only If the mask becomes soiled replace with new mask as the antimicrobial agents may not be effective thats printed on the boxSo basically its going to help you much and you shouldnt buy them all up so that there are plenty for the people who need them the most|1 This is why we build plex servers running sonarrradarr It is fantastic the amount of content there is when you dont need to worry of about copyright|1 I know what you mean It seems political no matter who I tell not necessarily US politics just personal politics My closest friends believed me after a week or two but anyone I tell who disagrees with me politically in any way just outright rejects it and almost takes it as a personal attack that I think I know something they dont The numbers dont lie If Im wrong then you prepared for nothing fine give me all the shit you want for it afterwards If Im right were saving a countless number of lives and increasing your quality of life I could see a couple of weeks ago but even the MSM is taking it seriously now Local businesses are closing left and right I feel like people are in denial or something Theres going to be a lot of Darwin awards handed out this year|1 It couldve but TSA agents havent exactly proven themselves to be honest nor reliable when taken as a whole and neither have police officers for that matter so taking their word for something doesnt really seem to be a given If anything I would be less likely to believe someone from either of those groups given their reputations|1 Theres good things about it ER is top notch Theres some innovation and things move fast sometimes but other times things move slow its just that things can cost too much move too slow at critical times and sometimes some management somewhere needs to bite the loss and say ok guys just do the right thing here we can take the loss just start making the test kits well worry about getting paid later or something whatever it is that is the hold up That kind of thing this is speculative please dont ask me for some evidence|0 Oh Id say Whoops Im awfully sorry old chap of course Im not a philistine|0 I get your frustration and anger given their previous statements However since many countries like my own Sweden are looking closely at what they sayrecommend before pushing this to the public this is hugehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbt49ethewhosent25internationalexpertstochinautmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 Crazy isnt it They could do something radical that used to happen in ancient times Babylon and Mesopotamia which is a hard reset Cancel all debt for everyone Plus basic income while we get up on our feet again Itll have to be something truly drastic like that|0 Corona is closing in on Trump if he had it do you think he would disclose it Imagine him having to self isolate|0 Yes a random sample would be much better In fact I have no idea how this test got approved without doing thatFrom eyeballing those charts Id guess up to 3040 of nCoV2019 infections will turn out to be asymptomatic One problem with testing random people though is the swabs are supposed to be unpleasant Maybe they can do the fecal testing instead|1 Photophobia wouldnt make me think coronavirus particularly It can be to different degrees a feature of flulike illnesses but would make most doctors worry about meningitis as a more serious differential to miss|0 My husband and I both are absolutely weary in mind and spirit right now Weve done everything we can to prepare but I still have to go to work he works from home Every day at work I do the bare minimum while keeping up with the news hoping against hope to get an email about working from home I work for a university though so I dont have high hopes about that until people directly connected to here start dyingIts exhausting I keep debating just quitting but then we wouldnt have health insurance and theres no guarantee that we havent already been exposed|1 Its like we are watering our crops with electrolytes|1 It takes 13 days for test results So I doubt they are sitting in their car and waiting for results|0 All these SBA loans and payroll this and that are fine until someone goes to apply and theres no process in place Just like the near non existent testing|1 More that you are reaching saturation of voluntary testing If you have a population of 10 million and only 5 are willing to be tested youll peak at 500000 Alternatively testing has outstripped the spread of the virus Which means less people need to be tested simply because you have tested all those who need to be|1 As a fellow nurse that sounds like management BS to cover their own butt|1 Lol good one|1 I think Alberta is being overconfidence because of the number of tests we are running currently Just because we run more tests doesnt mean schools are not going to be amplication points for the virus|1 I get what you are saying but the estimates of the deaths are not as important Estimates of deaths vs number of infections is what is important to calculate CFROften mentioned number 50M deaths and 500M infected is CFR of 10If 15M deaths is accurate and 500M infected still holds then CFR is 3 I was trying to say that CFR seems to have been mistaken for global death rate as 50M vs 500M is 10|0 And of course we get downvoted because we dont just believe every negative thing without evidence this subreddit|0 Were doing more testing not less Stop spreading misinformation and causing unnecessary panic during a national crises|0 I wish my hospital had 100 open beds I work at a 420 bed hospital that typically runs 10 holding patients in the ED during flu season because were full up That much demand on an already maxed system is worrying|0 YesAs others have said we shouldnt hoard masks but this study from 2008 says that even a bandana is safer than not wearing a mask Yes its peer reviewed Yes its on a government websitehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799|0 Join the club and with attitude fuck you|0 Its not a first building to collapse in China Its not the first building to collapse worldwide What more of a lesson can you take from this compared to the other ones|0 I just hope there is none in India none for now none forever otherwise it will get so much worse|0 They had a better life with us than in africa|1 The hysteria is real|0 Of course youre american I love that the argument of best healthcare in the world hasnt been uttered in a week|1 lol youve been marked buddy You now have a permanent flair that warns other people about what a piece of shit you are|0 But they are on every street corner in every Chinese city Who has that many lying around Are they also recently produced like the ambulances|0 its really sad that we rely on the voluntary whims of charity for our social ills|0 Then when Pence flops in handling the disaster Trump will tweet that he flopped because Pence was a nevertrumper He was all along a spy for the donothing democrats|0 That sounds more like an American|1 Is this a even a stopped clock is right twice a day thing|0 happy to see that all that taxpayer money is going to good hands s|1 I really like that they locked them into contracts to provide job security All of the local grocery stores are needing extra workers to help stock shelves and such Once this blows over theyre just out of a job|1 And now Dont buy hand sanitizer they dont work|0 Im going to Vancouver soon how panicked should I be|0 Im 7 months also have an appointment with my midwife the 25th Im going to be asking what the plan is The problem is Im not really sure they even know what can go down if it gets bad like in Italy|0 Is there anything they can do to help Or just monitor and watch them|1 I work at Home Depot In our closing meeting Saturday we were told that Home Depot would never close We are getting emergency cleaning kits to keep our surfaces clean In addition the only way we are allowed to stay home is if we have been in the travelrestricted areas outlined on the CDC website If we have been in direct contact with someone who is found to be infected we can stay at home for two weeks and be paid too Otherwise we are expected to show up every day|0 Such despicable subhuman deserve to die from coronavirus Assholes|0 You are fighting a losing battle my friend We have people here worried about chemicals they are completely ignorant Youre doing FSMs work though|0 We dont even have enough gloves and masks for hospital workers they certainly wont give them out to restaurants|1 Re Wuhan health authorities reacted way too late the virus probably had 12 months to spread freely without serious containment measuresAnd that differs from the imported notcaughtattheborder cases spreading untested in all the rest of the world how|1 Maybe it cant survive in Boriss safety fridge|1 I guess saying the Spanish flu is racist now too|0 On the upside hes presumably getting it in a controlled environment with medical staff and resources on handProbably a little better than contracting it when the hospitals are fun and you have to ride it out at home|1 Welcome to being a survivalist Its not that bad when you get used to it |1 Dont put that number on zero ICU doctors will be the ones deciding not politics|0 CDC American Central PlanningDont be so surprised Distributive decision making destroys the centralized model because Central models are subject to single point failures one person making a bad decision or having an agenda Some things need a central figure banning flights for example But for everything that can be distributed like test manufacture testing reporting you want to leave things decentralized|0 Make more tests Hire more people Replace incompetent buffoons in office|0 You can if you have the moneyPrivate tests in the UK cost about 350 You can get them done whenever you wish to|1 Honestly Id just leave if I worked there in a situation like this You interact with too many people touch too much cash and other surfaces Its super high risk|1 Dont go all in just yet you got played by OP trying to spin his own narrative Then donated heaps of tax payers money to his churchAustralias religious schools and places of worship are being offered an extra 55 million in community grants to boost their security after the Christchurch mosque massacre 100k of that went went to security in the church he attents 130000 people attend services in that church each weekhttpswwwheraldsuncomaunewsvictoriapmscottmorrisongivesplacesofworship55minsecuritygrantsnewsstory5694676aee49964e21b065146b6007ea|1 He was almost certainly patient zero Check for recent travel to China|1 Man Id have thought something in such bad taste wouldnt exist|0 Go in spread it its what the government wants you to do Herd immunity some may die but its for greater goodLiterally no one cares about you Go in sell or make your product for as long as possible so economy stays up for as long as possibleIt Is crazy but they know bestSeriously tho once the courts are back up and running in 2021 if they sack you you may have a case But for now go in the manager has said its okay Good luck getting gp appointmentEdit sorry just upset atm people do care about you more so care about yourself Do what you think is right but also make sure you can pay your rent mortgage and provide for family Proper hard situation to be in sad to hear|1 What do people do that purchased flights I have heard some change flight policies but I just really want my money back at this point because we are headed for a global recession My flight doesnt fit within their parameters yet Will American and others be bailed out and American will run off with my money|0 Oh god Australians I am so sorry youre going through this We have this same patronising reason in the UK We wont close the schools because you parents are so stupid youll either hand your kids over to their vulnerable grandparents or youll just meet up en masse for play dates People are like no actually well stay home with the work packs our schools are already prepping|1 Are you fucking serious We know what is good information about this We know what is bad information Its not like some sort of political debate Info about this outbreak is scientifically verifiable|0 Same here And Im pregnant No one here seems to be taking this seriously Everyone at doctors office kept telling me it couldnt be coronavirus because there are no reported cases in our area yet Cant find what youre not testing for What a mess Location Austin Texas|0 The only thing the US government is really good at is violently extorting its tax cattle|0 yea and ive seen so many nonchinese people believing the media that its fine now in chinathen i saw this clip on twitter from someone in wuhan httpstwittercomyangzhanqingstatus1238489953572659202httpstwittercomyangzhanqingstatus1238489953572659202 apparently the hospital are still fully occupied that they arent taking any patients at all|1 The movies will be available on a wide variety of ondemand services including those owned by parent company Philadelphiabased cable giant Comcast Corp and its European subsidiary Sky for a 48hour rental period at a suggested retail price of 1999 The movies will also be released on platforms including iTunes Google Play Amazon Prime and FandangoNow which is partowned by NBCUnivesal So if you have any of those new films and current films will be made available digitally|1 Funny the same gross dipshits who will infect everyone are downvoting me for stating truth lol|1 This is because people with no symptoms or very minor upper respiratory symptoms are flooding these drivethrusIf you just have the sniffles stay calm and STAY HOME Tests are limited resources We have a GIANT population in the US and cant possibly test everyone just because they want it right now|0 Join the hot discussion on the latest coronavirus updateshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvi9rVyLr00Ckhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvi9rVyLr00Ck|1 I even bought some sweat pants and a couple hoodies to wear since I imagine I am going to stay home a lot and I am calling them my pandemic clothes I got a haircut so less of it gets into my face Pandemic shopping for sure|1 This is amazing I have a good amount of food stocked up but Im still trying to eat take out when I can This is so scary on so many different levels|0 Trump is announcing the first of many bailout packages Monday today Part of the package will include paid time off from work Details to follow|0 I suggest you do some reading on Fukushima because the disaster never stopped It is still an ongoing event They are taking steps to mitigate it yes but if those people all went home things would get very badMy point is just that when you are talking about the complex interconnections of globalization and modern society events can have seemingly random unrelated consequences|0 Peekaboo Enthusiast that will right away be added to my resume|1 Many streaming services including Netflix and Stan in Australia already offer a free month trial since long before this virus|1 Yeah how mindful could a drunk person be of person space and hygiene|0 Probably figuring out good filters in general maybe different types of software and apps to help track different things Help open communication betterIm sure theyre developing a lot to help fight this And I applaud their hard work Im glad everyone is fighting different facets at once Ive been constantly appealing to CEOs and individual governments to get things changed got two HUGE companies to create a WFH policy so farEvery little bit helps friends were all in this together|1 Cincinnati Ohio here Kroger A few days ago it was business as usual Wednesday and Thursday saw it slammedMy kroger pharmacy usually has a 1530 min wait time for refills last time I checked it was 2 hours Constant line at the pharmacy where it used to only ever have 13 people at a timeToilet paper and paper towels were actively being raided off of the paletsCheckout lines backed into the first aisles Carts filled to the brimWalgreens across the street had just ran out of toilet paper this morningLots of small travel sized items were out which was weird Not sure about anything else was in and out for a prescriptionVitamin C packets were in very good supply as was cold and flu meds but they had signs saying people were limited to 5 cold flu and sanitizing stuff per personAfter OSU closed my uni was soon after Theyre about to announce that we are out for the remainder of the semester with online classes They were originally going to keep dining and residence halls open but decided to close them by March 25 after Spring break Many students have already gone home as of Wednesday and Thursday|0 We are prepared to say in should it get bad in our neck of the woods But dont forget about your mental health too Going for a walkjog for example somewhere thats not crowded is a low risk activity that will help keep you sane Minimize the risky stuff maximize the safe things to do Have a plan think critically|1 Mate Dutton is the third biggest cunt from Australia behind Rupert Murdoch and convicted pedophile George Well|0 Taiwan doesnt live the longest nor has a particularly healthy diet Taiwans life expectancy is mediocre Most other developed countries are slightly higher by 12 years It is higher than the US but the US is an outlier in that the American life expectancy is easily the lowest amongst developed countries|0 Fucked up if this is trueEDIT To everyone saying that it makes sense to test all the playersstaff on the Jazz because Gobert tested positive it really doesnt if the number of tests available is limited Theres no difference in the recommended action between someone who has been exposed to a confirmed coronavirus case vs someone who tests positive youre supposed to selfisolate in both cases unless you require medical care CDC source on what to do if you test positivehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutstepswhensickhtml CDC source on what to do if youve had contact with someone who tested positivehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpguidancepreventspreadhtmlCDCAArefValhttps3A2F2Fwwwcdcgov2Fcoronavirus2F2019ncov2Fguidancepreventspreadhtmlprecautions These playersstaff will be told to selfisolate regardless of the test result since tests may result in false negatives in the early stages of infection It makes more sense for these tests to be reserved for cases where its not obvious that the person has been in contact with a confirmed case|1 I will be starting a job as a federal contractor soon It REQUIRES a group briefing before work Then of course the first day next week we are required to be at the actual place of work So I either go and take care of my family with a salary or a my life insurance or stay home and not contribute at all I know where I fall on these curves|1 Isnt including Antarctica in the definition a bit ridiculous|0 I read this as the terrorist code of horror Made for an interesting sentence|0 I mightve replied to the wrong comment That was directed at the general sentiment and America bashing I see a lot on Reddit I believe in the virtues of being American Unfortunately our flaws are in full view at this point in time and with this current president|0 I swear some of these people will be wheezing the words fake news into their ventilators defiant to the bitter end|0 Fair point but I personally think once people start getting sick and see friendsfamily die its going to be hard to ignore the govts lack of response even though we know hell be screaming China Dems Its all their fault Obviously Im purely speculating but this one seems much more serious to me than past issues Only time will tell |0 Survival becomes not worth it Im more of the Ill survive regardless of circumstances variety All of my hobbies in the last few years have been focused on useful skills making cured meats winemaking gardening beekeeping mushroom hunting foraging for wild edibles fishing and hunting|1 Both might as well be 0|1 Nice love seeing the rare polite yet constructive conversations on reddit I wonder if you guys have pondered a disinfection procedure for when you arrive at the office and home It would be interesting to share these ideas Perhaps another post|1 I trust that the data for the studies is correct because its unlikely China would have provided live updates on made up case samples being analysed in real time by people in many different scientific fields|1 zero I bought this years ago as part of my general emergency preparedness kit|0 People vastly underestimate luck The randomness of events that need to happen for this to become what it is We can simulate small tasks but until we can simulate everything that happens between humans to a tee things like this will continue to happen I guess Im just pointing to the philosophical end of things here but if quantum computing ever happens it will be the greatest technological advancement just because of the sheer amount of questions it can answer and help predict the most likely scenarios when used properly Used properly is used generously because we need to figure out how to get along before great new technology can be used responsibly|1 Yes Ive thought this to myself many times Its especially infuriating on a personal level because I am 36 weeks pregnant and could deliver between tomorrow to a month from now who knows When people are like lmao its only fatal to the young and elderly Im like such as my infant for example|1 Id be delighted but this person got stoopid with me first no|0 Fuck we are such a stupid species|0 Only ever ridden MARTA once in my life lol|1 Millenais are generally considered people who were born between 1981 and 1996 Lets take average of that and say 1988 That means that during the 2008 crash they were 20 in colledge and not in the workforce|0 poor India will be hammered very soon|0 cant imagine another person whos death would effect more people than the pope would be devastating for all practicing Catholics which is a fuck ton of people|0 I have a quick question Can we cure the Coronavirus Is it possible Because right now its spreading and spreading I live in Poland and the first case of the virus was just discovered when a bus of tourists was coming back from Germany and 1 person on that bus had the virus and they quarantined the entire bus It happened in Zielona Gra if anyone wants to knowSorry for spelling mistakes and my bad English Im on mobile at school|0 Well this is what is starting to happen nowExpect more measures to be introduced over the next few week Remember schools are going to be out for spring end of term in about two week as well|1 agreed but at least we are treating it better than other countries|1 Its a political stunt during the worst possible time for political stunts|0 I agree with what you said That would be reality in a more perfect world I know so many people who have jobs where they cant work from home If their kids are out of school they have to take off work and in some cases not get paid for it Its rough Two reasons I became a teacher 1 I love teaching kids 2 In general if my kids are off school Im off work to be with them Every job that can be done from home right now should be But it wont happen This will continue to spread until it burns itself out|1 Ive been wondering about something similar A number of folks in my community in Queens got a flulike virus with a horrendous painful cough in late Januaryearly February I tested negative for flu at the time but chalked it up to the high false negative rate of rapid flu tests The timeline seems a little early but not entirely impossible|0 I suspect it is already fairly widespread atleast in the NYC area but many people have very mild or no symptoms There are many unrelated cases in NYC with no known travel or exposure risks|0 Yes as a US expat who sees a lot of hate to the US for how theyre handling the situation Sweden seems to be handling it far worse|0 The problem is the supply How the fuck are we going to get enough of these medications to dose 70 of the world population Sure America only has 350 million but everyone is going to want these hydroxychloroquine seems to be very effective especially if taken as a prophylactic but the UK has banned exporting the drug to other countries and most of our medication is made in China|0 It is literally a whataboutism You Trump people are a cult at this point Thanks for voting for an obvious idiot who seems like hes willing to kill us over his numbers to get re elected|0 Well i guess they just started testing and are not prepared at all But this article indicates that there must be quite some people infected and it might start spreading from iran to more countries however in most countries they still only test people that have been to china|0 If no one near them tested positive|1 I wouldnt say its a far stretch the threat of a superbug has lingered for some decades now The moment we become complacent and think we have conquered Mother Nature is when she sets us straight Theres 78 billion humans nature has a way of balancing things We have better methods but that can only reduce risk but not eliminate it Thousands of die every year from the flu alreadyI should say Im cautiously optimistic|0 Could buy everyone masks and stop people from losing there homes when they stay home from work forthe next 3 months|0 OMG it is so hard I catch myself doing it all the time|0 Matter of time unfortunately|0 Engineering major hereThe distribution of people who believed it was serious basically correlated withBig brain big afraidSmol brain its the flu stop being worried also bully people who wear masks which the cdc said it doesnt help while every other country said they significantly reduce transmissionEditThe purpose of this post is to convey my fear and angst over people around me even those who are smart|0 The Trump administration is a bunch of tittieless fucks who are trying to profit off of this crisis while peoples families are dying|0 I work at a non essential store and most of our customer base over the last few days have been 60 or older A women came in yesterday complaining she might have a fever People wont stay home unless the government force them too Whats even worse is the company and management havent given us the tools or information we need I have had to take it upon myself to help make sure others are at least getting plenty of hand sanitizer at registers and doing my best to keep my department as sanitized as possible Management treats it like a joke|1 If everything that comes out of my mouth is a lie what would be more comforting than|1 Didnt he fight a volcano too|1 So you want the overreactors to flood the emergency rooms because thats the only way to get a bed If you think that wont happen I would like to introduce you to the human race|0 Happening in Canada too Our minister just said if the workplace is taking all necessary precautions then people have to go to work He also said if employers were sending people home without being sick that they could be held liable for wrongful dismissal charges later|1 Not that Im aware of no I was exaggerating|0 I havent seen that one but Ive seen the one where he jokes about releasing infected mosquitos in a room and another where he said something like If we are successful with vaccination and reproductive health programs in certain regions we can reduce their population growth by 15 Now it would seem like a bad strategy to release a virus that kills primarily people over 55 if thats your goal so Im going to have to go with Bills innocence on this one|1 This is incredibly irresponsible I hope someone sues Disneys ass if they contract COVID19 at a park|0 Social Security is based on how much you personally input into it In theory it kind of sounds like it should have been sufficient when people were actually planning for it Things just changed|1 The person making arrangements for these people had a sick sense of humorandor they were a religious nut looking to signal the apocalypse|0 sounds about on par with other placesstay safe people|1 Saying that the economists need to take over from the doctors is either the most stupid comment or the most evilPeople are no shit dying and this jackass cares more about the economy This is whats wrong with the world|0 He should say that then He shouldnt say that the testing isnt useful I agree at least he isnt saying this is a hoax and selfquarantining The bar is so low|0 There is a part on 2nd hand smoking too that was left out from the OP post that makes it inconclusivehttpsdocsgooglecomviewerurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwwhoint2Fdocs2Fdefaultsource2Fwprodocuments2Fcountries2Fchina2F2018gatschinafactsheetcnenpdf3Fsfvrsn3D3f4e2da92httpsdocsgooglecomviewerurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwwhoint2Fdocs2Fdefaultsource2Fwprodocuments2Fcountries2Fchina2F2018gatschinafactsheetcnenpdf3Fsfvrsn3D3f4e2da922nd hand smoking509 of the adults 217M that are working indoors are exposed to 2nd hand smoking at their workplace 449 of the adults 515M are exposed to 2nd hand smoking at homeThat means that close to half of the adults may not have smoked before but may have a chance of already being affected by exposure to long term 2nd hand smoking in their workplacehome|1 No youre not They are in the wrong Like do these people think Italy have shut their entire country for fun|1 Surgical masks dont protect you only meant to prevent you from coughing droplets onto others|0 httpsjviasmorgcontent86147577Focuses on 229E likely applies to other coronavirusesnCoVs impacts on the immune response indicate similar damage Combine that with warnings in China that recovered patients need to take precautions because theyll be vulnerable to secondary infections in the immediate aftermath and theyre only estimating protective antibodies to last for 6 months It seems Im not the only one who has noticedMy mother specifically worked with animal coronaviruses in RD and her company had to abandon a project because of certain challenges they present Not that particular problem but to emphasize that people are tending to make assumptions about these based off of other viruses Coronaviruses are uniquely frustrating to deal with|0 Climate change in a nutshellYoure alarmist the scientists will save us in the endScientist You fuking wut mate|0 hehe how interesting propaganda office To be honest many chinese people that do not know english thought people outside china are mostly kindhearted But people like me know that you are actually full of arrogant and prejudice you do not care Chinese peoples real life just enjoy the feeling of blaming ccp and sneering Chinese peopleActually I also do not care about your life I just feel pity for the doctors Thousands of doctors devoted themselves to the front line could not return home working without rest for over one month tried countless methods to find out efficient ones The conclusion is only strictly cutting off human contact could help And you guys ignore the voice from China or WHO let people wandering outside without protection due to prejudice and politics Before accessing the english comments from ordinary people I feel anxious for your slow actions Now I am just released Weeks later when medical resources exhausted remember you deserve it|0 If they find one that works it would take 6 months min just to get enough to begin distributionSix months is a long time considering the current state of USA and its uncontrolled wildfire spread|0 Do we know what actual reasoning there may have been behind We do not encourage traveltrade restrictions I cant fathom why theyd say that honestly|1 Im sorry youre getting shit from most people here some of the comments so far are really ignorant and disappointing and for a support subreddit its really awful Just wanted to say FWIW I think I understand what youre dealing with and I think I understand where your parents are coming from Some of it Im dealing with too some the traditional culture expectations I thankfully dont have to Is there any way to live separately from them temporarily I read the home is coowned by you and get the entanglement there but the root of their fears seems to be catching COVID19 from you given your job and IMO that is a legitimate fear for them Could you afford to live in a hotel or rent somewhere for a few months and could your parents afford to cover your part of the mortgage for that time They very likely will refuse to go along with that but if the money is there on both your and their ends you can force the situation Culture bends under pressure of a crisis if your parents stories of family history go back far enough surely there are stories where ancestors broke tradition to survive This is one of those times Also I totally get the porn watching reference and the mix of life circumstances that makes it what it is the need for the dopamine fix etc Im in the same boat While this isnt the time for it I highly recommend rpornfree Even trying to cut down helps|0 Im no expert but it most likely from how your bodys immune system gets weaker as you age|0 When this article was printed on March 6th Alberta was not testing for community spread In order to be tested you must have met the highrisk requirements and at that time it included travel within 2 weeks to one of the risky countries not including the states meanwhile claiming we didnt have it You cant claim we dont have something when youre not testing for it BC and Ontario are doing well but from my experience here in Alberta theres a lot of not us we wont get it were low risk attitude from citizens and government|0 They took more measures than Italy did they have a much less atrisk population than Italy does and they were able to mobilize and respond better than Italy can Thats why they are sending aid right now I am hoping countries realize that if there was ever a time to be draconian now is that time|1 That would also be surprising to me From what I found on a quick google search the average looks to be around half of that|1 You must have a faulty universal translator I do think that instant karma from his disparaging of the virus and his dismissal of the pandemic response team 2 years ago would be deservedBut no one deserves to be ill nor die because of the irresponsibility of one politician|0 But Im following the logic of all the liberal snowflakes claiming Chinese Virus and Wuhan Virus are racist terms so wheres the consistency|0 I think its a good thing to have hope The opposite is despair We get one life and I will use it to be loving and hopeful foolishness be damned|1 MeanseI 3 Italians mama mia Stay safe friends|1 That was my thought as well Less than 3 months of runway after larger order volume suggests this company has been on the brink of bankruptcy for a very long time|1 Any recommendations for some good showsbooks in particular And good luck with your schoolwork too I dont know what grad school is but it sounds really important |1 Well yeah at least you cook them first|1 Just read Tom Hanks and his wife tested positive Trailblazing Tom|1 As far as how the US is going to handle this Theyre going to allow you to draw on employment insurance while you a quarantined|1 Youre right their beds are better|1 Hes going to downplay how serious it is He simply cannot help himself|0 Monetarily the best option to not let anyone get tested let the virus spread everywhere and then put a price on the vaccineYoure saying you cant put a price of life Watch the pharmaceutical and insurance companies do just that|1 If the tests arent accurate why would you use them A dog tested positive for COVID |1 Theyre not useless and this meme needs to go They stop you from touching your face and when everyone wears one it reduces transmission from possible vectors The west needs to get over the arrogance and put a mask on|0 By playing with modified SARS1 do you mean isolating and sequencing the SARS1 genome for developing a test vaccine and cure Heres the abstract for the US patent The invention relates to a novel strain of severe acute respiratory syndrome SARSassociated coronavirus resulting from a sample collected in Hanoi Vietnam reference number 031589 nucleic acid molecules originating from the genome of same proteins and peptides coded by said nucleic acid molecules and more specifically protein N and the applications thereof for example as diagnostic reagents andor as a vaccine httpspatentsgooglecompatentUS8343718B2enhttpspatentsgooglecompatentUS8343718B2en The EP patent you cited and its US equivalent is just for isolating a piece of the SARS1 virus for testing Theres nothing here about weaponizing SARS1 or even modifying the SARS1 genome Stop fearmongering|0 For those of you here who have not taken the red pill now is the time to realize they have been lying the entire time|0 Then why does he deny the fact that hes taken a test|0 Its a news article being passed around on social media with a bullshit headline They arent stopping orders or shipment Theyre just pausing incoming warehouse deliveries from thirdparty sellers unless the product is considered essential medical cleaning product etc|0 Not sure i agree with the mechanisms you are proposing But Im not proposing mechanisms Im starting at first principlesAdults shouldnt try to play the role of adults treating other adults like children oh you dont want to see this content trust me i have your best interest in mindThe reason people do this is to feel important and useful power trip etc And they get articles written about them The reason not to do it is that the consequences outweigh any potential benefitsTo have a info hub like this sub and then have amateurs silencing people is worse than a free market of information|1 They are not doing that at the moment they closed other hospitals wards to make them emergency hospitals for the coronavirus They cancelled surgeries exams etc I dont know if its good in a long term for those people who needed surgeries and medical cares|1 I realize that but what stops agencies from adopting the same tech|0 I keep getting downvoted though ah the American idiot out in the wild|0 Were going to need more hand sanitizer|1 So when they say everything in Australia is trying to kill you they mean including the Universities Great|0 Shell have saved the lives of MILLIONS Thousands sure 10s of thousands maybe This has only killed thousands in China a country of 14b I do understand how exponential growth works and USA wont mitigate things as well as China but I dont see that millions would have otherwise died in the USBut serious kudos to her for doing what she did|1 I was wondering the same thing but I was thinking some of them were transgender guys that want to be women|1 Its what weve been saying for weeks Even the NYT fell for it as they kept repeating the authorities recommendation not to wear masks Finally the truth is getting out to the mainstream in the US and hopefully more people can wear them without fear of stigma|1 Exactly here in QC early last week we had 35 confirmed cases Now we have 40 By next week will be between 200300 and that is just confirmed cases with tests We are now pretty much in full lockdown here Get ready|1 Then at least youre better than the rest of the population to make a good assessment of the situation than the fear mongered ones|1 The rulesbased world order is just neocolonialism The AngloAmerican Western Europe international order exploits third world resources to fuel first world production Most postcolonial nations have corrupt leaders put in place precisely because they cooperate with the looting The UN is a just a forum to make deals between corrupt local rulers corrupt European professional bureaucrats and AngloAmerican big corporations Thats all it is It is not a cooperative diplomatic respectable institution It puts a lot of its own money into hiring celebrities to boost its image|0 They laughing but dont even have a mask The person might be scared of having it and doesnt want to infect others for all we know|0 In China they force check patient in the US theyll expect people to pay 3 grand for it lmao|1 Make your own vpn on a cloud server in RussiaIm pretty sure they can still trace it but the government is not a Omnipotent God They have the resources to do things but they are not omnipresence|1 You compared banning cars forever to a temporary hit to the economy to save lives Can you not see how that is a ridiculous comparison|1 The US is definitely pressuring allies to keep our borders open I dont see any other reason for not closing our borders They clearly have not controlled the spread within their country and we need to turn them away until they do|1 No source handy but I think 0 infant deaths so far and I thought I saw that under 9 months was the safest demographic Babies seem very safe fortunately I have a 2 month old but the luxury of staying put for now|1 This is very late but the exact situation as the UK as our government is trying to track down 2000 people in the country who arrived from Wuhan lmao|1 The key word right there is delayBecause that is exactly what we need to doMortality decreases if the 20 who need hospital care receive itThat 20 doesnt have to equal mortality unless of course the 20 cant actually get any hospital care because they were careless enough to all catch it at the same time AND THERE WAS NO HOSPITAL CARE AVAILABLESorry for shouting but it makes me very angryAnd too right because if you delay slow the spread reduce the peak whatever everyone else who is smarter calls it then the hospitals can cope help people AND LESS DIEGiving it the Fuck it bring it on then approach isnt some clever thing thats going to make the survivors immune and the virus just go away We dont get to go well Im not that old Ill be OK its everyone else Im scared for and just accept the inevitable 20Because we could save lives Go sit in your little house watch the TV do some work and STOP PEOPLE FROM CATCHING THE VIRUS SO DAMN QUICKLY Give the healthcare systems time to build capacity and actually deal with the situation using things like knowledge and technologyIt would be a long hard slog sure but wed have come out the other end looking back thinking well at least we tried and saved some lives But no We will look back and think well you know what in retrospect I dont think that approach worked did it Whole bunch of people who could be saved werent Hey next country dont do that doesnt work mateWhat The Fuck Youve worked in the NHS for 12 years and you think the bring it on approach is the right one Give over What do you do check cars tickets in the car park or somethingMedical professionals are a close bunch the world over and they would much prefer delay Much|1 Sign the petition and share it everywhere you can httpswwwchangeorgpcentersfordiseasecontrolandpreventionthecdcshouldstartwidespreadtestingofcovid19|1 All you have is no u LolI used to be a republican but I couldnt tolerate the lies and deception anymoreI guess you dont mind|0 Thanks for the insights Stay safe|1 exactly it doesnt know the math the birthday paradox means that there is 1365 probability while with 41 cases is 4111000000 Plus it was 2 hours for a connection at the airport means that many people were just travelersHow many people you interact with in a big modern airport in two hours a fewReally bad luck|0 Its funny how all my conservative friends who complain about the Nanny State are totally ok with govt protecting populations from the truth Just today i got texts that this isnt even as bad as zika or swine flu and the hysteria is the biggest threat Riiight|1 Oh no I dont have any prescriptions I was just worried about treating the symptoms My moms diabetic so Im worried about her getting it bad|0 I found out we were having our first child last week Our appointments leading up to will be interesting I just hope it blows over before we are due|1 Their desks arent far enough away to engage in social distancing they eat lunch right next to each other they share bathrooms etc|1 You are suggesting to use orange oil on the skin at a pretty random concentration which is an irritant and worse its oxidation product is a sensitizerIt is not bad to add essential oils if they are safe and you know well what youre doing If you do it yourself you could also take more risk and you might know well what your skin is able to bear But to suggest something like that online to others with oils which clearly can do harm also is not a good idea at alledit Let me add by far not all orange oil is foodsafe or suitable for pharmacological use because most it is produced for cleaning agents and as a paint thinner and it contains all the pesticides used on the oranges Those sold for just the smell can be both foodsafe then it is much more expensive or not|1 Totally didnt take it that way Was already wondering where I could get some when I read the OP You provided a link to a reputable Japanese pharmacy Thank you I only plan on using them if needed and it further data comes out that theyre effective But Im buying them now because by the time that data comes out therell be no way to get any|1 The deaths in china are under reported but the cases in china are under reported by a much greater factorThe data from Korea is much more reliable since they are testing everyone in the population and are being as transparent as possible their data has yielded a 06 death rate this could still be an underestimate but its highly unlikely the death rate is greater than about 1This virus is still much more deadly than flu though and as many precautions as possible must be taken|0 Call your local news station It needs to be known that there is community spread And how do you actually know you havent been in contact with a traveler The guy that accidentally sneezedcoughed on you in the grocery store 3wks ago could have just returned home from an international trip The entire government is covering this up Stay hydrated treat your symptoms and PLEASE do not leave your house until you have been feverfree for three days Stay well my friend|1 Sen Mac Fhearraigh the CTO was on RnaG this morning as well If youd like to learn more about how the test works Assay Genie has all the product info and lots of relevant content|1 I totally agree with you too I rarely get sick too Im an avid hand washer too and do my very best to help prevent the spread of disease and Im also an empath So yeah those people definitely matter but yeah Ive made light of the situation mainly to keep from crying We all have different coping mechanisms and thats ok Plus not to be the devils advocate but the earth is over populated as it is and a lot of the people who are dying werent in the best health to being with I know its sad but its real life survival of the fittest anyone So yeah its not that some people dont matter but maybe some of us are looking at the bigger picture and hoping MANKIND makes it through this not just those close to me Thanks for attending my TedTalk |1 Yep I would be more surprised if this wasnt going on since they do the same thing to their victims during organ harvesting The CCP lost the the basic morality concepts that made them human a long time ago|0 Quite well generally This is a black swan event Being mad that business wasnt prepared for it is fucking silly I know you guys like to jerk off about how much you hate corporations but none of you seem to have any idea how the fucking economy worksIts about like bitching at a homeowner for not carrying flood insurance when they arent even in a flood plain and a 5000 year flood occurs|0 Q Which Kardashian is thatA yes|1 I would die laughing if YOU got infected|0 Everywhere its the same shit This will do in 2 months what Spanish flu did in 2 years These idiots cant help themselves|0 I currently manage a subway Our state has implemented a closer to bars and restaurants with the Exception of carry out or drivethru My store isnt one with a drivethru but we are staying open because well its technically carry out if we dont let them dine in But we can only have 10 people in the store at one time including workers Its asinine that we have to work Sales today were under 500 and the ban started at 5 pm Tomorrows going to be slower eventually we will close but who knows when|0 Hahaha most managers or owners absolutely do not|1 Seriously why should US try to do that This is inherently so meanhow can you be so openly mean during an emergency wth someone explain it unbiasedly please|0 Living in CO also and yes people werent taking this seriously until schools were closed It is shocking to say the least how people have reacted to this and have cleaned the shelves at every and any supermarket My heart goes to you because Im sure that in this pandemic grocery store workers will become the new emergency responders providing foodmeds when all of this gets harder to navigate Push for gloves masks anything to protect you and your coworkers Keep strong|1 Can you imagine a bunch of religious guntards thinking the government is trying to lock them up quarantine and what they will do in response WowzersYou think this isnt a serious issue But its only a couple weeks from now|1 Cause eating pigs chickens and cows pumped full of antibiotics and kept in filthy conditions with little to no inspection and testing for salmonella ecoli is soooooooo much better|1 This literally happened at both schools I work for The flu spread like wildfire a couple of weeks ago Half the kids were out at each schoolA week later a weird cold that lasted for a few days was going around I only had the fever for a day but I still have some coughing|0 What a fucking joke the WHO has become Everyone knows this has spread around the world twice over|1 Yeah Ive looked at it a bit more closely That part is balls|1 Thats the narrative they are selling to distract from the fact that there are simply not enough face masks for everyone In Hong Kong everyone has been using face masks since the beginning of the first outbreaks and guess what Our influenza season ended an entire month earlier than previous years and our numbers have not been going up too much despite sharing a border with mainland China|0 Yeah its gonna get ugly|0 Lol seriously|1 Its not this thread thats fucked|0 Ya Im sure seller fulfilled would have way less traffic Sorry to hear that hopefully they can get it regulated by April Good luck|1 Imagine if China did this to itself because it bet it could win the whole game while everyone else gets pwnedDark thought Not saying I believe that at all But dark|1 I sympathize but many people have investments that have lost a lot of value with the TSX taking such huge hits But because those people tend to have saved over a long time they have cash reserves that they will bleed through so that when this is over they are no better off than a min wage worker Except since they have these reserves there is no provisions for them or social hand outs Yet these people most likely contributed the most to taxes in this country This is not the great equalizer I dont want to end up with nothing because I struggled very hard as a graduate student to make ends meet and put away money each month|1 Dismantle the WHO Waste of money and resources I bet they made the organization just to fuel their pockets up with money|0 Everyone can see this I havent spoken to a single teacher who isnt terrified of giving this thing to their students getting it from their students Every time someone coughs kids will start joking about coronavirus some schools have to treat it super sensitive since asian american students are even getting bullied over this shit Despite all of this no one wants to be the one to say thats it schools closed And with every day that passes by the chances of just one student or teacher contracting the disease goes up We shouldnt have to WAIT until people are sick to close down schools especially in this day and age where you can simply mitigate most classwork to online|0 Thank you let the downvoting commence|1 No aspirin is an NSAID|0 Lets not forget a possible 14 day incubation period The infected may not realise they are ill yet We have no idea what is realistic|0 Nice Leaderboard1 uRepliesNice at 1644 nices2 ulerobinbot at 1421 nices3 uporousasshole at 491 nices121460 ucaptboatface at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Took my son out of preschool 3 weeks ago I lied and said he was sick Now all the schools and colleges in the area are closed Neighbor came over about 2 weeks ago and laughed at my sign by the front door that says shoes off here now go wash your handsI feel like holding up a big sign that says whos crazy now|0 He feels great why would he get tested Literally too fucking dumb to understand or care that viruses can spread before you are symptomatic I mean not that he cares about anyone else so I guess it makes sense he would have that response|1 I love him hes a Reddit troll irl|1 10 days including holidays|1 The problem lies with human nature Especially in western countries Unfortunately someone may have symptoms but most people live paycheck to paycheck and need to work to survive The human nature especially we Americans is to suck it up and go to work Since the vast majority of cases do indeed appear to be mild coldflu like symptoms Im sure tons of people are already unknowingly spreading it Work eating out etc etc Thats why quarantines screening selfreporting you name it are all pretty much useless in the west|0 Kids seem to be getting only mild symptoms so hopefully that trend continues and your daughter any my daughter and all our sonsdaughters dont get sick or have only mild symptoms|1 It makes me feel a lot better that someone is coming forward with the facts Problem is nobodys going to listen|1 Im thinking better of the Chinese these days|1 Ive written to him at this address mayorpanciukbellevillecaBe polite but firm Use science to show how important social distancing is|1 I have my own house I play tennis and golf I have enough food for 3 months and my garden will provide more This will have little effect on meMy life will still be good The people in cities will lose the most Everything I say is for the benefit of our society|1 Yeah turns out Bath just announced that their going fully online starting Wednesday so Im heading homeAt least the unis are taking action even if the government isnt|1 Travel information between EU countries is shared by the member statesAlso many people hold several passports I hold 3 myself|1 I dont think theyll shut down Theyre offering everyone that purchased passes a full refund if they decide they dont want to risk it and Im willing to bet most of the talent and publishers will back out Theyre probably doing this so the talent is in breach of contract and they dont have to pay them for not attending|1 Our economy is already fucked The stimulus for businesses has to be for the regular joe too|0 I have never done that sThough I did stop going out to parties bars a month ago because of all this|1 That ol saying Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it|0 Yeah but they arent exactly convenient and thats if the ground floor windows are even able to be unlocked|1 I appreciate this reply a great deal It can be frustrating to reply into a stream of opinions without any reference to reality After dozens of replies such as you cant see how western countries will do this and were all doomed what good is that It wont be solved the same way everywhere There is more than one way to solve a problemI hope for the best for China in opening up and that its not a bunch of idle chit chat They have a lot more to gain in opening up than locking down media Good luck to to China now and in the future|1 They could be building it for other reasons and there could be several layers of deceptionmanipulation here This is the CCP were talking about They dont really seem to have a problem with suspending basic liberties or even taking lives for the sake of the hive but a trade war weakening currency and their large centralized population centers make it an absolute necessity to manufactureproduce smoothly 3 of them dying would severely weaken their position and they have the first movers disadvantage here Other countries know it is coming and have time to plan accordingly and furthermore have knowledge of what is going on in the ground through their networksThis situation isnt simple and I dont blame anybody for distrusting or being skeptical at a time like this Its not just a virus theres big politics and warfare thrown in the mix|0 It isnt even just poor people My FIL works sick depending on what it is and he has a 6 figure salary Its just the culture|0 I have a whole new appreciation for Sarah Connor|1 I could have sworn I read they had stopped testing anyone that wasnt in hospital|0 Breaking NewsUS State Dept will evacuate American citizens and their families aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship CDC officialAbout 380 people will be offered seats on two evacuation flights from Japan back to the US CDC officialSome may quarantine at Travis Air Force Base in California while others may be transferred to Lackland Air Force Base in TexasArticle below will updateTOKYOThe pools hot tubs and bars of the Diamond Princess emptied out on Feb 5 when authorities quarantined the luxury cruise ship at a Yokohama dock Instead of overflowing buffets staff in surgical masks deliver boxed meals and snacks about 11000 a dayLife has taken a turn for the nearly 3500 passengers and crew aboard the 500 million vessel who entered a second week under quarantine for the coronavirus diseaseI cant wrap my head around the fact that I could die from this cruise said Gay Courter a 75yearold American novelist confined to a cabin with her husband I go look outside and theres people in white hazmat suitsThe only trips ashore are for those infected with the coronavirus 218 so far or people with other serious ailments Of the disembarked passengers sick with the virus eight are in serious condition authorities said Outside of China the biggest outbreak is on the Diamond PrincessThe nearly 2400 passengers who remain are largely trapped in their cabins Health workers in masks and body suits knock on doors to ask selected passengers including the elderly to open wide for a throat swab Used bedsheets and towels go into bags for incinerationAnxiety and boredom appear the most common symptoms aboard what amounts to a floating petri dish Aun Na Tan of Melbourne Australia her husband a 19yearold son and a daughter 16 are stuck in a windowless cabin with two bunk beds While the teens practice handstands Ms Tan said my husband is trying to learnShipboard entertainers have been assigned to record trivia quiz shows and origamimaking for passengers to join along on cabin TVs The magician recorded a performance and a room steward demonstrated how to make a bedCoralie Williamson 57 and her husband Paul Williamson 62 from Queensland Australia take turns reading from a book they brought The Resilience Project Finding Happiness Through Gratitude Empathy and MindfulnessThe couple had booked passage with a lastminute deal A 250squarefoot cabin with a balcony was marked down to about 1240 for the 15day cruise that started in Yokohama traveled south toward Vietnam and returnedTheir shared book by Hugh van Cuylenburg a former volunteer teacher in India recounts the optimistic attitude among his underprivileged students It is helping us stay positive and express gratitude Mrs Williamson saidEllis Vincent a 76yearold retired airline executive from Sydney Australia said he has spent more time than customary conversing with his wife while cooped up inside She has an excellent memory he said She is able to bring up every transgression Ive ever had I believe she is not finishedThe operator of Diamond Princess Princess Cruises told passengers they would be refunded for the trip Jan Swartz the president of Princess Cruises said last week the company was working closely with health authoritiesThe shipboard contagion offers an opportunity to study the virus said Michael Ryan executive director of the World Health Organizations Health Emergencies Program He also acknowledged Thursday that its a difficult thing for anybody to live in a closed environment like thatJapanese authorities on Friday arranged for 11 passengers to leave the ship and stay in government housing until the scheduled end of the ships twoweek quarantine on Feb 19 The passengers allowed to disembark were 80 and older and had met other conditions including testing negative for the virusThe total of laboratoryconfirmed cases of the coronavirus named Covid19 reached 64437 in China and 24 other countries There have been 1384 deaths all but three in China The US confirmed its 15th case on Thursday This is pages long so I will stop here|1 Whatever conservative means in the US it cant have much to do with actual Conservatism Conservatism is all about Public Duty and Social Responsibility and that with power comes responsibility and cares for Love and Beauty Its strange that such Americans call themselves conservative rather theyre the nemesis and are LiberalsIts hard to believe that in America mercy has a price on it and its assumed natural that if youre ill or injured then you will pay for it and if youre ill for a long time or badly injured then youll pay for it until you havent got any money left but thats what Liberalism does The Liberals being the sort of people who said that if children working in mines were restricted to only 12 hours of dragging minecarts then it would interfere with the market and the conservatives asked where their humanity isLiberalism is an utterly destructive creed that reduces everything to money and relations If you apply Reason to everything then you destroy everything and Marx understood that theres no Beauty theres no Love theres no Aesthetics with Liberals they reduce everything to money and relations and so destroy everythingIt should simply be that if you fall ill or become injured then you will be treated according to how ill or injured you are its not a question of how much money you have or which credit card you carry or who you areIts utterly immoral to put a price on mercy but then thats the sort of barbarity liberals are capable of|0 This virus is super contagious the way it spreads so easily Anyone brings it into a room several people get it Id be surprised if we dont see it rip through the White House in about a week|1 a post yesterday reporting from China that their experience of asymptomatic infection was just a matter of time until they became symptomatic Some took 4 weeks to exhibit symptoms Things are moving very quickly for sure and yet also in slow motion Maybe we will have an answer in 2 weeks Interesting that the poster said that the infections in China started in nursing homes as it is happening outside China This is contrary to the seafood market origin version|1 hahaha yep Ive been there The tolerance goes down very fast I found drinking a lot of water helped flush it out or dilute it or something That may be complete bollocks but worth a go|1 This is good advice you can get some medication if it gets too bad But depending on what country youre in it might be expensivedifficultPeople are surviving through it though so maybe take a look at the stories out there about those who have recovered|1 Wow thank you I didnt even check their Instagram Darn I ended up ordering 100 worth of masks and filters I feel like an idiot here I thought only the elderly get scammed online lol|1 Tell them you have been diagnosed with something bad and it is not to protect you but protect themIm not locked in here with you youre locked in here with me httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvGFEfWa6GNGkhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvGFEfWa6GNGk|0 Thing is people say hes historically been a pretty smart guy and I really dont see it Like someone posted the other day that Ted Cruz was an Ivy League debate champion yet he continues to say dumb shit How is this possible|1 Thanks for these kind thoughts though I disagree with some of the opinions in point 2 Ive kind of gone through my own five stages of grief when it comes to the virus 1 Denial its nothing just a few sick people in Wuhan Media hype Ill actively ignore it 2 Anger how dare China do nothing about this virus How dare the flippin virus spread to different countries Ugh Let me rant about it on Reddit and tell my family to prepare for the heckstorm that government incompetence created 3 Bargaining its spreading to different countries outside China but hopefully it wont affect mine Its in my country but maybe it wont hit my state Its in my state but maybe my city will be safe Its in my city but maybe my social circle will be safe 4 Depression this virus is going to go everywhere we are going to have a pandemic worse than the Spanish Flu and theres a good chance that I and everyone I love will die I wont be able to marry my fianc because Id have to travel for it Even if I live I will lose loved ones the economy will crash and I wont be able to work find routine or have any adventures for a long time Everything is utterly hopeless and I should just give up on life 5 Acceptance COVID19 is a pandemic and that wont change The virus will affect every human community with very few exceptions I will probably lose someone an older person close to me Yet this crisis opens up new opportunities I can stay home and avoid the risk of infecting others I can truly rest and recover from work burnout I can discover new indoor adventures like TTRPGs I can catch up on the writing projects Ive put off for years I can plan a bigger wedding for 2021 that will really make whats left of our families happy And assuming I survive the pandemic which I probably will being young and healthy I can be part of the rebuilding of society helping build a better humanity|1 Korea Singapore Hong Kong and China are contradictions to this statement|0 Yes Ive prepped and still question if Ive done enough However try to remember that only about 20 of people that get this become critically ill Unless you are old frail or have bad health you will probably be ok Make sure you are well nourished well rested well hydrated and stay out of crowds Take vitamin C handwashing etc Remember you have 80 of a good chance of this being a transient respiratory virus|1 Republicans tried to stop the free covid19 testing because they equates giving money to clinics for free testing to mean money for abortions Their logic is a little bendy|1 spring break in Texas hitting the same time as this wave will be a Godsend for us the sheer luck of the initial wave hitting us at the same time that everyone is home and then you just tell them to stay at homewe are in a unique position to let it wash over us from what Im seeing as Ive been GLUED to Twitter for italy ireland london etc and now watching the ICUs struggle in Seattle is chilling Chilling|1 City vs remote areas etc When it comes to your normal stuff like seasonal flubroken bonesdiseases it works just fine|1 Thank you|1 httpsnewrepubliccomarticle122016catholicchurchnotenemysciencehttpsnewrepubliccomarticle122016catholicchurchnotenemyscience I cant wait for the common misconception that the RCC is antiscience to die|0 Reminds me of the last time I got the flu about 8 years agoMy wife was working at Starbucks and the flu went through the store People game into work sick if you were sick the manager made you call around and beg people to be your replacement But this was a flue outbreak So nobody wanted to be a replacement because they were either sick of busy Besides myself I imagine easily hundreds of customers were caused to become sickSame company where another time the cleaning supplies were running low but not stocked up because overusing their order could effect the managers bonus|0 No not at all It should genuinely be something to keep in mind But also shouldnt be considered gospel as a large group of this subreddit seem to be doing Your links are fantastic but should always be shared under the knowledge that it is entirely speculation it would help clench thoughts of fear mongering|1 Not trying to make fun of you or anyone but a quick Google search will yield you all of the resultsUS CDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsymptomstestingsymptomshtmlWHOhttpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronavirusesFirst case in the UShttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191Random websitehttpsourworldindataorgcoronavirus|1 Idk about you guys but whenever I get the yearly flu it always crosses the brainblood barrier Just take some motrin guys cant live in fear|0 Yes masks and gloves dont fully protect you|1 and we wont know if any broader epidemiological trends like a change in the number of pneumonia hospitalizations are due to a particularly intense flu seasonThey test pneumonia patients for influenza Also if hospitals start seeing multiple people with pneumonia testing negative for the most common strains of flu this season CDC will likely change their guidelines Until then they wont because there are supposed to be systems in place to signal the need for such a change|0 Thats a pretty big hit if the entire production is halted for two weeks and everyone gets at least sick pay|0 Being proactive would mean a lower than expected new record profit marginWe cant have a new record profit margin this year become a new record profit margin by a margin less than the previous years record profit margins margin was from the record profit margins margin that we celebrated 2 years agoThink of the CHILDRENedit in other words ceo to spend and lose as little money as possible until the last minute absolutely forces them to and that way the shareholders wont replace the ceo with the ceo of a comparable company that would have spent and lost less|1 Thank you|1 Haha I used the data in this article to support cloth face masks Im using cotton 6 layer diapers newborn size Makes 2 well fitted masks from each diaper We have less than 10 masks left then were switching over to cloth We only had basic masks Never got a single N95 we ordered Im a nurse in hospice Remind me to sic OSHA on their ass as soon as this is over|1 My husband argued until he was blue in the face about this spouting global flu figures He couldnt get his head around it Ask him if it was Ebola outbreak he also would be so chilled out about this At the end of a day Ebola killed even less people this year than Corona Virus so surly its even milder than flu|0 Also is this mostly or entirely patients in China I suspect many people in China have weakened lungs due to severe air pollution and perhaps that can increase their chances of not surviving|0 Water is shit brown nowadays|0 I have four chronic illnesses Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome EhlersDanlos Syndrome Gastroparesis and Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome and work with kids at a tutoring center sitting one foot away from them at closest Im in NJ Im supposed to go back to work on Wednesday but Im starting to get really nervousPersonally I think I should stay home and so does my boyfriend But my boss is saying since the town doesnt have any reported cases yet just the county everyone is fine and theyre staying open with no plans to closeIm worried my boss will fire me if I say Im too scared to come in for the next month or two or however long until its safe for me But I have a weakened immune system and while my youth helps 25 Im still scared Ill be in the very small percentage of those that die quickly to the virusI dont want to work there through the point that its been reported in the town because at that point itll have been spreading even more and possibly be too late for me My mom says I shouldnt live in fear What should I do|0 Thank you for the update I am praying this ordeal will be over soon Can I ask does anyone who gets symptoms immediately get tested and transferred to a hospital or do some people try to recover at home if they are only mildly sick|1 Thank you|1 Wow great work And thank you for sharing|1 I think we can all agree Regardless of who is in what party they all need to take this threat more seriously Given our close trade relationship with China the odds of infection increase with increased interaction ie the boats and planes that deliver us shit and business communications the lack of unified preparedness is alarming|0 Its fascinating how confused you are The same people denying this are the same people who deny science behind vaccines or global warming|0 Im glad I didnt have to scroll down far to find this comment Literally anyone and everyone in some position of power politicians medical experts large organizations who claim to be the bastions of health and human wellbeing are all severely downplaying the insidiousness of COVID19 and instead circlejerking about the flu On top of that like you mentioned about the masks all these experts and leaders are spreading disinformation and setting up the general public for failure in an attempt to maintain calm and order and protect the economy|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 A company that relies on international travel should definitely have a contingency plan for a pandemicThis isnt some new thing thats never happened before|1 I thought there were two cases what the hell happened Community spread|0 Lower level|0 The thought never crossed my mind Our favorite Chinese place is take out only and run by a family They are a truly small team that works their butts off At some point every year want to say during the summer they close up for a whole month and go on vacation perhaps to China In any case their last vacation was months ago They do not represent a present danger|1 The biggest fallout of all this is that now the CDC is not seen as an honest information source Why believe them on anything when they deliberately mislead people about this to manage a shortage|1 Well dont take a crosscountry road trip to buy 20000 bottles of sanitizer and you should be fine|1 Thats it If he gets it and survives we will 100 know because it will be brag fest for sure|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Really That surprises me everything Ive ever heard about Costco led me to believe that they were big on taking care of their employees|1 I mean Trump literally said he didnt want to evacuate those on the Grand Princess because he didnt want to have to add them to the US infection numbers He stated he likes the numbers where they areHes prioritizing how we look on paper over actual lives cause muh economy|1 Yes but given a long time incubation period it can take a while|1 Gl with that|1 There was an AI scanning the internet that spotted the cluster of pneumonia deaths in Wuhan before the Chinese even admitted it It issued an epidemic warning based on statistical modeling and the Chinese government said it was just a false positive|1 Understood I have immunocompromised children living there They arent taking it seriously Im very concerned|1 As others have said You 3D print the plastic parts and buy the electronics and motors and required metal hardware off the shelf This is how engineering works nowadays its a regular thing The difference is ramping up to production levels with 3D printing only There are a number of roadblocks thoughPlastics in hospitals are antimicrobial and a 3D printed product does not suit itself for regular cleaning at the levels we would need for it to be safe in a hospital environment You would probably need to cover the whole thing in a sheet of viral safe plastic that might be a workaround|1 Someone in another thread had this tip mix two parts isopropyl alcohol and one part aloe vera to make your own I found glycerin for mixing on Amazon theres plenty because Im sensitive to aloe vera|1 Regarding the exemption for American citizensYes the US is a huge vector for COVID19 cases in Canada but those seem to be from Canadians returning Politically not banning Americans yet makes sense since what Americans are actually coming here Who does a tourist vacation to Canada in March|1 After my husband had a bout of norovirus on a cruise ship I 1000 agree|1 Paracetamol is out in my adds It usually has 500 boxes or so Meds will go Get the important ones now This is just the start Imports will slow to a trickle|1 Agreed Are the small retail establishments going to get rent waivers from their landlords are their landlords going to get mortgage waivers from the debt servicers are the debt servicers going to get waivers from the hedge funds and pensions|0 I am concerned about this also especially since I just bought a new car back in the beginning of December and didnt think there would be a plague right around the corner If I would if known I would of held out until afterwards At this point my biggest dilemma since I do work with the public is risk working which theyre basically acting like its just a cold and get sick or play it safe and ride out on savings for several months at which time hopefully the worst will have passed|0 Hmmm thisll be a great detail for some post apocalyptic after the plague game Public loudspeakers occasionally playing some All is well the virus is under control The government is on loop In an abandoned dead city|0 its not like even if they will get sick they are powerfull politics and have alot of money and have priority for health care system |0 One of the things weve seen is where they get a few undiagnosed people coming through the ERs Daegu city just had to close 3 major ERs and quarantine 60 30 doctors whod been working in the area And people are still having heart attacks strokes car accidents etc|0 history repeat from 1918 in that time the same mistakes httpswwwcovid19nohowthehorrific1918fluspreadacrossamericahttpswwwcovid19nohowthehorrific1918fluspreadacrossamerica|0 My SO works for UPS and they havent even acknowledged whats going on All her coworkers are just making jokes about it|1 Sucks to be themHotel workers Uber drivers airline employees therapists bakeries coffee shops and on and on Its going to be hell for tens of millions|0 I took my 3 children out as of today I have friends that have done the same I have one at nursery one primary and one secondary Just had to go with my gut One had a cough already new guidelines as of today would have meant I had to take them all out of school anyway|1 Im gonna be on the swish hard|0 Strong immune systems can make you vulnerable to sudden death when you have an infection like this|1 Fuck thatwe arent a nation of pussiesWhat if that was you or your family you want them left behind in Japan or still in that festering ship No man left behind|0 Pretty damn effective but if the drain is ever used you lose it And youre really not supposed to get oils into drains for other reasons so|0 In German httpswwwrkideDEContentKommissionenStakobStellungnahmenStellungnahmeCovid19TherapieDiagnosepdfTo get antiviralica your case must be serious the doctor must contact STAKOB to get into an experimental treatment program|0 Wow one day you may get a Nobel Peace PrizeBest of luck|1 Makes you feel proud to be an American lol|1 Im seeing some people try to cling to that theory by saying that italy isnt explicitly saying that their deaths arent Asians Some people are just a lost cause|0 The UK are attempting to put their fire out with petrol|0 That is not what defines a virus as airborne I can pick you up and throw you off a building doesnt mean youre able to fly Whether or not a disease is considered airborne typically will depend on how long it sticks around in the air its a spectrum Technically yes spread through aerosols like sneezing or other respiratory droplets is airborne but it seems they want to specify it only survives in large droplets and likely not for a very long time likely placing this disease right on the line of how we would classify a traditional airborne illnessConsider the measles virus for comparison it is also spread by sneezing and coughing but remains viable in the air for up to 2 hours afterwards Also consider ebola You can spread ebola through saliva from a sneeze but the risk of transmission is so very low that it isnt considered airborne for that reason|0 ItalyChina shining relationship Marco Polo would be happy a lot|1 It would be ironic if that fucker Richard Schabas gets COVID19 and suffers|0 I vape but when I got my flu shot they also recommended a pneumonia shot which I also got If anyone is getting a flu shot ask for a pneumonia one too|0 Since its in a page about why you should be vaccinated I suspect that data pertains to pathogens for which we have vaccines the list of which is in your link Thats a subset of all pneumonia|0 Lol there is nothing with making money also I never said Id price gouge Also you dont know what influence I have or dont have|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Just wondering if it actually cost you to get testedI read someone forked out 1400 out of pocket of a 3270 bill just to be tested I dont think people have that type of spare cash to get themself testedLucky for this guy he had the money and it was negative He just had the fluhttpsthehillcomchangingamericarespectpoverty485666howmuchwillgettingcoronaviruscostyou|0 Chillllllll because dog meat is often sold at those markets Just a joke|1 Maybe CNN MSNBC should listen to him instead of blaming Trump Hopefully the CDC will come up with a vaccine for TDS|0 Think there will be only 1 prison break Who knows what can happen httpstwittercomRosannaMrtnzstatus1237022654529495040httpstwittercomRosannaMrtnzstatus1237022654529495040|0 Miamis mayor just tested positivehttpswwwmiamiheraldcomnewslocalcommunitymiamidadearticle241163311html for COVID19 Four days ago he attended an event in the city with a Brazilian government official who later tested positive tooPresident Trump was also at the event last week and so was Sen Rick Scott who selfquarantinedFrom the story from city of Miami reporter Joey FlechashttpstwittercomjoeflechSuarez was one of several politicians including MiamiDade Mayor Carlos Gimenez Sen Rick Scott and President Donald Trump who interacted with Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro and his staff during a visit to South Florida last week The mayor went into isolation Thursday after learning that one of Boslonaros staffers tested positiveFabio Wajngarten press secretary to Bolsonaro tested positive on Thursday Before learning of the Boslonaro aides positive test and isolating himself Suarez was scheduled to declare a state of emergency for the city of Miami at the conference After leaving City Hall later Thursday afternoon he was taken to be tested at the request of health officials|1 Wow that friend is an asshole|1 For the recordrCVnews was started about a month ago with the same premise Its hard to get all the information without being labeled as a conspiracy thread while equally attracting a wide demographic of people to keep it from being strictly mainstreamalternative I usually am not a higeproponent of social media during times like these but its been repeatedly shown that while some is obviously taken out of context purposefully or inadvertently a lot of it is proven legitimate days or weeks after the factBut bot trying to take anything awayfrom this sub Given what weve seen on reddit in terms of other subs restrictions I dont think having multiple subreddits attempting to share information is neccisarily a bad thing at all I think we all just want access to the best information regardless of how it is delivered at this point|1 Bingo In Colorado all were doing is closing some stuff Testing is nonavailable despite news articles stating long lines for testing we closed early due to demand and were only sent 200 tests This is a compete and utter shit show in the United States where I fully expect millions to dieI hate what you just said but Im afraid that its probably true|1 Thanks|1 Btw relax annoys the hell of me now Its so condescending and its ALWAYS said by the most misinformed person in the group They have nothing to say so they attempt to shut it down real quick so reeelaxxxx|0 The worst|0 THANK YOUI came here hoping there would be educated people discussing findings in strict moderation of quality Turns out this sub is just pubmed scavengers who post anything they find and just interpret it based on some key words they recognize|1 Your pathetic|0 I stopped eating out in late January when I was seeing all the videos coming out of China Been keeping my distance from people ever since When the delivery drivers drop off packages that I order online I wear my nitrile gloves outside to meet them and have them drop the packages in my yard with me standing at least 610 ft away After they leave I remove the contents throw the boxes in my recycle then I wipe everything down with diluted clorox Im taking no chances|0 Pandemic War 2020 Never forget|0 So does this study mean the actual mortality rate is equal to the flu Or do we have to assume that the flu has as many asymptomatic carriers as this virus|0 Just unreal Unbelievable|1 Im stocking up on single serve bottles in case one of us gets sick it just one less way to pass germs around the house Plus Im used to hurricanes and you just buy water Also we have a house on an island the water is on a boil advisory about 4 times a year|0 Fuuuuck dude Obviously youre either a troll yourself or tweaked up thinking I was the guy who originally replied to you Either way youre a douchebag spreading fake news and the mods of this specific subreddit need to ban you hard Im reporting you but if you actually have sources to back up your claim feel free to post them|0 Yeah cause hes done a great job making those changes for the last 35 years|1 Tests are 30 each People would happily pay that|1 No survival benefit and possible harm with steroids in viral respiratory illness WHO and CDC recommend against it|0 Oh my bad it was only 80 million So much better Lets bring back the USSR comrade I cant wait to head to the Gulag Capitalism has its problems but pound for pound it beats communism every day Communism is pipe dream that can never work and all the Tankies who support it are ridiculous Go talk to someone who lived in a former communist nation and stop living in an echo chamber Capitalism won the Cold War for a reason|0 You should be much more worried about the normal fluAlsoThis flu is 20x more deadly than the normal flu|0 well the shit had already hit the fan when we locked the country down imagine without it once again flatten the curve buy time to reinforce infrastructure and to allow people to develop a cure vaccine will come later to at least lighten the loadthe end of the quarantine will be a delicate and crucial moment|1 My mom is updated on the special md alerts IGS in France right hospital but it hasnt been closed to the public|1 Its scary here in Florida The restaurant I work at is still open and I dont understand why Im scared for the spring breakers to come I want them to put a travel ban on non residents and test people coming in Even office jobs that can be done at home are being done at offices still|0 You can only get paid leave if you test positive If I know I have coronavirus but cant get tested my only two options are to keep going to work or forgo my paycheck And for most Americans the latter is not an option|1 100 million patients health care costFirst off there will not be 100 million hospitilizations in the US Hospitilization rate will likely be 10 so maybe somewhere around 1030 million tops if everyone gets exposed But more importantly you are assuming that shutting down everything will result in fewer infections when all is said and done I will agree that it might slow transmission but i am not sure we have prooof that it wil definitively stop transmission|1 I am worried about people becoming violent or even just aggressive about the masks There is a lot of fear and stress already bubbling panic buying has prompted violence and I think masks would also make me a target of this If people think you are sick or better protected they will be angry at you|0 A high ranking biology professor at a top 10 public University told me verbatim its just hyped flu I dont expect much from the public after that|0 Yes but majority of the world population is in the northern hemisphere There is hope in developing immunity in people who recover from the virus now which would help reduce the number the 2nd go around As well as potential mutations which generally can make the virus less lethalThat being said this thing is spreading so fast and the parameters long incubation period and long recovery just arent that favorable where it will not completely dissipate It will most likely decrease and begin to rise again in the fall and winter|1 I live in Chester Co no cases have been reported here yet Montgomery though is starting to look like PAs epicenter And my boyfriend decided last night would be a good time to take his daughter prom dress shopping at the King of Prussia Mall|1 The idiocy out there is scaryI went to Walmart yesterday at around 1am There were two families that cleared out the entire section of gallon water jugs Nope nobody else needs water thanks for asking|1 Except that there are articles in this subreddit talking about ppl recovering and then getting super sick again|1 I saw that too It was on the youtube Wuhan Infected nurse videos|0 Oh really I guess now is the time to start worrying|0 Im a housekeeper in a hospital and I like to think Im very thorough and detailed when I have time We are understaffed and Ive been skipping breaks and working off the clock sometimes so that I can sleep at night knowing the next person put in that room will be ok|1 And here where I live people from all over are coming here to vacation like there isnt a pandemic If it wasnt here before it is here now|1 SHUT DOWN EVERYTHINGWHAT THE FUCK ARE WE WAITING FOR|0 Same man feels good we are already prepared Good luck|1 Korea has and will continue to report real numbers Koreans can and would hold their government accountable if they starting lying I am confident saying this because I have lived in Korea the past 6 years|0 They are It would be chaos and panicking if they didnt Just slightly less worse than a full Alien disclosure|0 Belgian here Were being told to be more selective on who to test because supposedly the products required to perform tests are running out globally Not sure what to make of that but obviously we cannot backtrack infections as good as we should and cases will not reflect reality if we cut down on testing Been spending a lot of time in this sub and mainly due to general anxiety I filled in a contactform to contact the government trying to convince them to implement a more aggressive strategy lockdown if required because I fear the hospitals filling up like they do in Italy I dont expect actual change but filling in a silly contactform seems to be the only option atm|0 How selfish do you have to be to run away from voluntary observation I would rather be quaratined in my home for 14 days rather than risk infecting hundreds of other people|0 Im from VietNam I am so sorry because Vietnam couldnt help anything for you before although Vietnam near China But now we will try to share this information to everyone in Vietnam and in the world I just say Stay Safe We alway love you and Chinese people|1 ha I went to china I went shopping and amongst my purchases were ladies underwear They had a communal change room and the sales girl put her hand overon my breast to gauge the cup size|1 Since you said North America Mexico has canceled school from March 20 April 20 and everyone is insisting its not for vacation going out or partying Its to stay home People are being pressured to postpone weddings and the elderly are staying in We dont have that safety net that Americans do where you think youll be fine because America is Great we know that if we get this like Italy were fucked So were stepping up now with 26 confirmed cases Im on a 14 day quarantine because I arrived from Houston last night and I got tested this morning No symptomsOf course the touristy towns are responding just like the US Economy first|1 Neat |1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 OUTGOING transmission is why EVERYONE should be wearing a mask Read my top level comment|1 And this is why we must all call our representatives and demand they pass a bill to give everyone a UBI check in the mail with no exception until this is over|0 And likely because the west has fucked up the containment in those other countries wont matter because once everyone in every other country has it they will just reinfect these countries but in much greater numbers Perhaps countries like South Korea can secure their boarders and cure all their local cases and survive the worst of it but that would be tough to do perfectly Luckily they have a very heavily defended cushion between them and the next country likely to contaminate them|1 Im Iran big factor youre leaving out Healthcare in Iran isnt very good|0 Some people are saying the flu is perfect Its a beautiful flu|1 Private prisons arent gonna risk that kind of loss of profit|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 no|0 No Theyre different|0 There will be no stock market during a lockdown Literally no trading|0 This is why we need to vote for Bernie Profiting off of human labor is one thing profiting off of human lives is another and thats exactly whats been happening|1 You should maybe rephrase that I suggest will no one rid me of this troublesome presidentUnless youre not USian in which case go nuts|0 How has the US extensively prepared for this|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 50 of Diamond Princess infected did not show any symptoms at the time of testing As far as I can tell the Japanese government did not release any data on how many of them subsequently developed symptoms They seem to have simply kept a running total of the number of asymptomatic positive tests found each day|1 When the number is as small as 6 the number today in Wuhan it should be hard to lie|1 Many KickstarterIndiegogo projects will be affectedOh no Instead of failing to deliver a product without an excuse now theyll have an excuse|0 Weird Im seeing 1775 on this trackerhttpscoronavirus1point3acrescomen|0 Wow thats so great Tons of respect|1 Netflix and Chills will be the next saddest when everyone stays home|0 Schools need to set up home learning systems so that students who have cold symptoms but arent actually very ill yet can study without potentially infecting others I completely understand they dont want every child with a sniffle to miss days of education but this virus can start with just a sniffle so they need to adapt|1 Currently pregnant its horrifying I dont go out more than I absolutely have to|0 Sure buddy|1 LA is run by leftists who want Corona to be bad to hurt trump|0 Agreed So they are saying it plainly this is what schools are for nowadays On the other hand imagine what kind of social unrest we could potentially have to deal with if all these kids were left roaming the streets|1 Been doing it since early January the addiction and burnout of information is so bad Ive deleted blocked all virus subreddits multiple times But news on mainstream media keeps showing me just enough to make me concerned and come back to find out more|0 fuck that shit they took my cup noodles from tokyo back in 2016|0 I saw a petition going around like 90 filled to cancel Coachella|1 You mean some care about the health of people and others dont|1 Oops sorry this reply was meant for a different comment|0 Good questions Im not an expert But to me it feels like we are under responding But that might be simply because we dont know what planning IS being done|1 lucky we have a backup pope in Benedict Papal Prepper FTW|1 Anytime a politician doesnt get to speak is a win|1 holy shit|0 Honest question As a UK resident should I stop going to the gym|1 Yes I nominate Trump|1 Im seriously considering trying to take a leave of absence from work and stopping my kids from going to school starting tomorrow My wife has been fully supportive One of the few bright spots in my life right now Ive worked on my career for 15 years and love what I do I dont want to quit but I think the time to act is right now Ive been watching this since Jan 20 or so and watching this play out is absolutely terrifying|1 Probably a good idea to sanitize whatever was ordered too|1 If true is let is easier to contain and most people develop symptoms at some point Like The Who has been sayings for a long time|1 But he said he isnt worried He said he knows better that scientists He said hes a genius I say lead by example go out in public and shake everyones hands|1 I love how people who clearly have never been exposed to medicine before react when reports like this come out OMG THIS IS SOMEHING NEVER SEEN BEFORE OMG THE HORROR11 BIOWEAPON AIRBORNE AIDS Calm down Viral encephalitis is a known syndrome that can be caused by many different already existing viruses ranging from Enteroviruses to herpes varicellazoster or more exotic viruses In my Infectious Disease unit Im a medical student out of 10 beds 2 or 3 so would be usually occupied by viral encephalitis cases at any time Most of the times its herpes encephalitis in very old or very immunodepressed patients but sometimes its unknown viruses or even viruses that usually are completely harmless that have somewhat crossed into the cerebrospinal fluidIn fact more than half of all meningoencephalitis cases are caused by viruses Theres a quick way to assess whether an encephalitis is caused by a bacteria or a virus and its by lumbar puncture If the liquid that comes out is clear its most likely a virus If its purulent its definitively bacteria Encephalitis comes with unmistakable signs of neurologic suffering tremendous headache nausea vomiting stiff neck seizures loss of function delirium hallucinations that immediately warrant a lumbar puncture Its something that can be done by the bedside Then we will order imaging like CT scans or MRI to confirm which areas of the brain are being damaged Its a serious condition as you might imagine that often leads to irreversible sequelae but not something unknown or abnormalThese reports are very useful as they indicate us that we must add SARSCOV2 to the workup list of diagnosis of viral encephalitis patients even if it seems to be a sporadic occurence CALM DOWN|1 Anyone who got in during the Diamond Princess made bank But vol is way up since then and options are pricey And well probably get another big drop Monday morning since however they choose to handle this ship will be an ordeal|1 Myalgic encephalomyelitis for example Which is super not fun to have httpsenwikipediaorgwikiChronicfatiguesyndromehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiChronicfatiguesyndrome|1 FOR FUCKS SAKE IF MASKS DONT WORK THEN WHY THE FUCK DO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS USE THEMAhem Sorry I am so tired of seeing masks dont work The fuck they dont|0 I do tech support for the restaurant industry and I had customers calling Saturday night with packed bars in the background It made me sick thinking about it I work from home|0 starting now Theyre on strike now|0 My best friends wife is a nurse in AZ I asked him what she thought about this I got the the flu kills 50k people a year bullshit response my wifes nest friend is a nurse here in oregon same fucking thing I just dont understand how this is still being taken so lightly We dont need to fear monger or panic but jesus why not respect this thing for what it is I was hoping the healthcare field would be some of the first to get worried about this definitely doesnt feel that way|1 This is almost certainly an order from Trump so the CDC probably has their hands tied|1 I assume that people with mild symptoms wont seek treatment because who want to be locked in a congested quarantine center with sick people for who know how long|0 Cold and flu medicine is paracetamol caffiene and something else thats fine right I know anti inflammatories are bad but i thought cold and flu was fine|0 You should tell that to their Stable Genius Leader|1 no wonder they were the only ones to survive the Franchise Warshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv4cF6D8zDa9U|0 Good advice|1 All 4 are 2nd generation from the same Chinese business partner That is sadly wronghttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468So for the german cases it looks like there have been at least 3 successive H2H transmissions1 Parents from Wuhan2 Business partner from Shanghai female3 Business partner from Germany male4 Coworker of himWithin 48 hours of his infection patient 1 did then infect patient 3|1 True because it mostly kills the old there is gonna be people who wont care even if 50k people died in their city they will see that 95 are older folks they will get it themselves and only have a mild cold and be mad because they were inconvenienced by all these old people dying Its not even that big of a deal those people would have died anyways soon probably the young people who died probably had some health condition like being old or unhealthy is worthy of a death sentence|0 Thanks corrected with accurate figures|1 Seattleite here Its a very mixed bag Id say I think for the most part people did really start to take it seriously the last couple days but it took the situation and outlook here getting dire for people to get to that point And still somehow there are people who think its overkill and not a big deal At least our governor mandated all restaurants close aside from take outdelivery and no gatherings of 50 people Overall though we seem to be taking it much more seriously than what Ive heard from most of the rest of the country I think a lot of people just dont think it will affect them or their neighborhood and live in an ignorance is bliss mindset until its unavoidable|0 I will not freak to be locked down i will freak if they attempt to remove me from my home|1 No one should have to say that to the leader of a country Especially not ours US I have an 8 and a 10 year old who know better|1 Love to you|1 Im happy they are testing the millionaires firstThe poor have to be bleeding from the mouth with no breathing for a test but if a millionaire ball player touched hands they should be tested first|0 And some will say coughing in the elbow is worse than coughing in the hands because you can wash your hands afterwards but you wont wash your clothes that oftenIll just cough in my elbow since thats what Im used to|0 Perhaps an update is in order Why is it serious|0 Oh no what ever will you do|0 Sounds about right sadly|0 This happened in Sri lanka too First case wasted tested negative and then postive|0 That first derivative is not looking good As long as Gweneth Paltrow is OK then everything is alright x200B |1 So should I just stop paying my rent Im technically selfemployed but my main client cancelled all upcoming appointments not that I was going to continue working anyways Ive got plenty of money to afford to continue paying rent for a long time but why should I now Id rather not pay 2000 a month if I dont have to I dont care if I get evicted after all this is over because I can just rent or buy a place somewhere else|0 On a quick skim the biggest emergency payouts seem to be triggered by a global coronavirus event which kills more than 2500 people Based on a WHO report Investors maybe had an interest payment in January if no event was declared before thenSo investors luckily got their January interest payment as deaths hadnt got to 2500 by thenOr the payment wasnt reduced by as much with fewer deathsIf theyd made it another 6 months they might have gotten all their capital back This isnt my area of expertise at all just a laymans interpretation so can someone show me where this isnt the case Its a long document|1 Trump and his cult will have blood on their hands GOD help us all in the US|1 Well less respiratory symptoms from other illnesses that can help spread it Especially during the time when no one took it seriously|0 100 agreed|1 also wire fraud|0 Do we have any insight into why young and otherwise healthy patients have been getting severely ill People keep sayings its just old people who get sick but Ive read several instances of people Id consider young who are hospitalized with severe symptomsAlso what does typical treatment look like for this Ventilator and thats it Are any drugs proving effective against it|1 I was beating this drum last week We need to get all frontline healthcare professionals updated protocols asap in a uniform and timely manner They are the most valuable resource we have and if they start dropping out because of infection it makes the situation 10x worse Ive yet to see a national level in the US response to updated protocol for healthcare workers thats filtered down and its a travesty Everyone is going to be figuring it out on the fly and there will be causalities just like in China|0 But were having an unusually bad flu season this year Sigh|0 It would be such a weird world if coronavirus was Putins endgame for Trump Imagine if the Manchurian Candidate president was ordered to handicap the CDC allow the virus to spread and cripple the supply of test kits treatment options etc What if it decimated the US workforce and left the economy in tatters Totally fiction but what a weird scifi movie that would make|0 Good We need some humility|1 Honestly with this one YOU LOCKDOWN They will not criticise you 2 months laterIf cancelling social gatheringsevents dont work why has South Korea Italy Iran Hong Kong Vietnam China cancelled social events When you have NO medicine NOT enough equipment theres ONLY these methods left|0 Personally I see a few pretty easy ways of ending this before it gets that badHow fucking hard is it to get a few weeks of food slowly starting now this will not be Hubeilevel anywhere else for weeks at minimum some basic supplies etc so you simply dont need to leave the house Not everyone can do this Im aware But thats when government steps in at some point presumably and hopefully There enough supply to help those whod need it for a few weeks PPE no but the point is to self isolate anyways Prepare medical facilities to deal with infections have mild cases self isolate and have general populace self isolate regardlessYou get most people to stay inside for two weeks and this is all contained Absurd ramifications for global economy but the alternative is significantly worseBut of course none of that would happen makes too much sense|0 A great thing I read in a book was that it is all reversable you can eat the food and drink the water It is nothing permanent but not preparing is|1 Dan Scavino is a Trump stooge ie one of his handlers Theyre no better as Trump doesnt like hiring anybody smarter than himself and thats practically everybody|1 a warship they need to drive off the edge of this flat world|0 Sorry|0 Is it weird that I was expecting you to list a gun as well|0 CCP is also spreading fake news about the virus in Taiwan especially in Mandarinspeaking world Thousands died in Taiwan Taiwanese government is covering the truth things like thatAnd guess what On the other Cronavirus sub every news about Taiwan attracts such accusations These wumao accounts just repeat already debunked rumors again and again|0 Source 3 people familiar with the matterWell golly mister Thats sounds credible as FUCK s|0 I tested negative for the flu|0 Most people couldnt afford legal representation and court fees either Any additional expense over a few hundred would send the majority of America into debt How many hundreds that would take varieshttpswwwbankratecomfinanceconsumerindexmoneypulse0117aspx by yearhttpswwwcnbccom20190720hereswhysomanyamericanscanthandlea400unexpectedexpensehtml but way too many people in the US dont have the money to pay for luxuries like justice and medical care|1 Private healthcare in Mexico is great If you book your flight with american express and purchase their insurance you are covered in Mexico|1 LMAO now the WHO warned about Iboprofen xD|1 True Thats bad on him|0 Stay strong Italy|1 Thank you Dr Helen Chu for choosing the right time in history to make the right decision many lives will be saved|1 Yep And from what I can see on say Facebook you are deemed antiscience if you question itI have zero trust in our state epidemiologist who thought it would peak last Monday hereTheyve stopped testing unless you are in hospital and not even then in some cases|1 Im currently working in a medical intensive care unit and we have a patient positive for coronavirus HKU1 If a patient has the novel coronavirus could it trigger a positive result on a viral panel for the coronaviruses that are routinely tested for My hospital has a respiratory viral panel with only Coronaviruses 2229E HKU1 NL63 and OC43 Is there a possibility of the novel coronavirus that isnt specifically tested for to trigger a positive for ones that are|1 Ok Good point Someone needs to routinely back these up|1 Tf you want us to do we arent in any position to make that happen Not like we dont want it|0 If kids are a vector for transmission why are we allowing them to go to school and spread the infection to more homes The schools will close and then what happens to the single nurses kid Riddle me this The nurse has to go to work Where does that leave the kid Are we going to keep them in school under quarantine Thats insane How can we support healthcare workers with children during a lockdownInstead of fighting me on this man lets try and come up with some solutions What do we do about this Maybe babysitting other peoples kids is a bad idea but maybe its not If you have a family in isolation with a confirmed case and if kids are not at risk of serious complications then what is the harm in that child being in isolation with that family so a vital healthcare worker can continue to work The virus doesnt leave the house the kid is relatively safe and we support a healthcare worker|0 I got a pic from my Friend their they have a whole store closed off with tape What|1 I think its a delusional fantasy from a bored mind|0 I cant count Or maybe Reagan couldnt Either way its a fucking scary sentence CDC IRS ICE ugh government letters never help Im old enough to have now watched HIVAIDS Ebola SARS MERS avian flu swine flu mad cow disease chickenpox measles and mumps get wiped out and now start to return This is the first time in almost 50 years Ive had an actual threat of disease come this close And it had to be when Im at the damn precipice of 60 with preexisting conditions Sigh|0 We all know the government dropped the ball prepping for Coronavirus but where was big Healthcare and Pharma They saw this coming too and as our medical providers with huge amounts of resources to do something did they do anything to prepare or were they too busy counting their money|1 they dont want to cause fear thats their first defense Problem with that is lots of people are dying from itConsidering we still dont have a vaccine fear is a perfectly reasonable response|0 I cried today Its starting to get hard to keep it together|0 That is what people say but this paper says that the weaker S type was the old version which split off and evolved into a more aggressive and lethal L type so it became more deadly over time just like what happened with the Spanish flu when the second wave of the virus is what killed the majority of people|0 I keep seeing statements of how with this were all in it together No if you have and influence you can fast track to the top of the line for health care I really see treatment going to highest bidders not that it isnt toeing that line already|1 Yes this seemed to be overlooked by nearly everyone freaking out|0 but reminder that we have antivirals Many antivirals are expensive and can cause renal failure|0 I think they have found one doctor who has made outrageous predictions with that high of an infection rate thats rivalling Spanish flu which was in a time with awful sanitation practices I think it is just fearmongering but that is just my opinion I cant disprove her prediction because it isnt disproveable its a prediction But I am willing to say that this article has found the most alarming prediction possible and ran with it|0 Two weeks ago Xi jinping said that things were grave in China I dont think its any better now httpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina51249208httpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina51249208|1 Right Just because CNN says its true doesnt mean it is|1 Maybe Trump tested positive himself Wasnt he in a meeting not too long ago with another world leader that tested positive|1 No its a furlough|0 You must have the last word dont you There has been plenty of evidence Listen to the expert testimony from MDs to the US Senate They in their expert opinion say that at best we are detecting 25 percent of cases bro math lets me infer once again that India missed 1 person at the least So having 1 sick man in India is not good and if they are not identified soon there will be a large issue|0 Are there any recovered people with mild symptoms who went online and shared the experience I see nothing from these people Any read from actual survivors|1 Yep joining a random stranger in a new world sounds perfect to me right now|1 Unfortunately the attitude will be like The popo is telling me what to do FUCK THE POLICE And this goes for all places where authorities are distrusted|0 Triage works in the other direction priority for O2 and vents is given to those most likely to survive because 12 dead is better than 22 deadOf course when the setting is a hospital parking lot tent and theres no O2 available much less vents it doesnt really matter|0 The prison staff will be the ones giving it to the prisoners at least at first Lots of prisoners if its like the US have preexisting conditions that make them vulnerable to coronavirus HIV rates in prison are way higher more hepatitis more IV drug abusers lots of smokers and alcoholics The virus might not make the staff very sick but it can really hurt people with conditions you see in lots of prisoners|0 TranslationCoronavirus Televisa NewsConfirm case of coronavirus in Mexico in INER patientTelevisa Newscasts SOURCE televised newscasts FROM CDMX Mexico February 28 2020 0719 am CSTHugo LpezGatell Undersecretary of Health confirmed Friday that there are two cases of coronavirus in Mexico One is the patient who is in the National Institute of Respiratory Diseases INER of Mexico City and another is located in a hotel in Sinaloa which was diagnosed through the state public health laboratory of SinaloaMexico CityThe undersecretary reported that the confirmed patient in Mexico City is not serious because he does not have pneumoniaHe explained that after giving a positive test in a reactive test a second test was carried out by the National Reference Laboratory INDRESo we already have a confirmed case of coronavirus this we would consider to be the index case he saidHe added that the patient is in stable health conditions has a mild illness because he has no pneumonia has the symptoms of a cold and has no previous illnessesHe is a young individual so he is very low riskLpezGatell said that five primary contacts of the patient were located who are from the family and are in isolation in the INER|0 imagine trying to be a badass on reddit in 2020 omegalul|0 Yeah go try spreading that shit on thedonald Youll be bombarded by ohhhh we get it orange man bad all things he does bad They could say this as their spouse is taken away in a body bag from a mysterious respiratory illness and still think corona virus is a dem hoax Its insane Its like a literal suicide cult|0 Thats also what i was wondering To me it looks unnecessary as well and i dont know of any scientificc evidence for use of disinfectants against this kind of a virus in this manner Thanks|1 Im glad at least Philly has cancelled theirs considering past experience|1 If they dont get their fucking priorities straight slow down this virus the US is going to be totally fucked|0 Lol you dont get how pandemics work do you Im sure it will miraculously disappear trump said so|1 Laughter is fine just cover your mouth please|1 I am so sorry I cant even imagine what its like to have a sick family member and go through that It is criminal negligence its just federally mandated There are only testing people in their fifties it seems like or athletes and politicians The fact is other countries have been testing in greater numbers for a lot longer and the US specifically decided that we couldnt use that same test and insisted on developing their own This has led to an insane shortage that frankly the damage already caused is just incomprehensible How could our govt be so absolutely negligent How are they continuing to deny testing for people who need it We are going to be the next crisis level country and nobody is doing anything about it The virus spreads easily from close contact with people but the up to 14 day incubation makes it difficult to limit the spread The only good news is that you will probably not have a severe case due to your ageI hate this so much I feel like I am in a nightmare The first case in my town was confirmed today and 2 of my friends were denied testing as well Good luck I am rooting for you and your family|1 Oh stop it|0 Now he has an excuse for ignoring his constituents|0 I actually watched Cuomos press conference He encouraged schools to shut down but wanted NYC to put something in place to provide food and services for the kids that need it|1 No way to prevent you can only flattened the curve Anyway this post it really not helping possibly making things worse It is a free country but you should think about deleting this post|0 Just tell her to hang backway back away from the crownuntil the mass of infected souls get through then pass without touching anything|0 Too late I have all the TPEdit and I am shitting myself now watching how our world leaders are sleeping|0 Done Thanks for posting this Ill spread the word|0 Id suggest find ways to protect your home tbh Buy a handgun have a plan build a safe room etc|1 I hope we dont get to this point We cant build a hospital like Wuhan did in 10 days We dont have the space or even labour to do so |1 Show me numbers No one young and healthy is dying This is all Chinas fault this MANMADE pandemic started in the first place|0 This is why I and so many others are so frustrated weve seen this play out in China and closer to home Italy Letting people catch this until the health service collapses is literally a WWI strategy from the descendants of the same people who brought us trench warfare and millions dead then too Its not conscionable in the 21st century|0 With the NBA postponing its season shit just got VERY REAL for all the people in my life who didnt think this was a big deal Flights vacations events being cancelled left right and center by them|0 I think the actual number is around 760m so we can toss another country or two into the mix|1 Yeah Its no fun to take apart and have to rebuild the same sets My husband and I will probably be just us he is really good at card games cause he use to gamble so I am pretty entertained trying to learn the different games and beat him but if a person isnt as into any game as the other it gets stale real quick I feel thatPainting is a GREAT hobby that covers a whole variety of things from paper to models to the fucking walls lol I love painting the house and making the place feel all different There seems to be hundreds of those little warhammer figures and then the set pieces I think you could do a lot with that|1 I doubt this will be the first last store hit with this kind of a fine|0 The context is saturation of the hospital system You dont need everyone to be sick for the health care system to collapse Only a mild bit more growth and people who would otherwise live will die Thats the issue that doesnt require hordes of sick|0 Doctors are different though They are exposed to the virus far more than the average person|0 This could also point to a higher number of infected in China as suspected due to various factors that hampers ID of actual cases Which would mean that a tentative fatality rate of 3 is too high|0 Coronachan is shy sometimes shes only 2 months old|0 no no no its all part of making america great again|0 You forget the instant ramen my friends|1 In China theyre locking people their apartments and only allowing them to go out to one or two stores within a certain radius for foodpersonal products and its been this way for almost a month now I would be willing to do that to minimize exposure but I really dont think the majority of people will comply unless they fully understood how serious it is I could also be totally wrong though Its because people around make me question if even mild quarantine would be possible|0 If there was an asteroid headed towards the earth cats like you would find a way to make it about Trump Let it go|1 Fucking shit|0 Currently half of the confirmed Diamond Princess cases are asymptomatic at least as of two days ago Hopefully we get a complete look over the 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Happy cakeday|1 If that were to happen Id recommend ascending from your dungeon to say goodbye to them at least|1 Yeah thats an interesting point Though we have perhaps 800 cases in the UK right now but more than 500000 kids in school Id imagine at present having hundreds of thousands of parents off work would probably have a greater impact than the the risk of kids catching it and infecting their parents Though what do I know Im far from qualified and only speculating The amount of variables to take into account to accurately assess the risk is far outside of my abilities Food for thought though|1 And yet Im the crazy person when I said this two weeks ago after my entire city came down with the flu|0 Im going by what how Im seeing it handled right now in an actual pandemic Weve only just gotten off our asses in dealing with it and many places are still dragging their heels A good rating in preparedness doesnt always translate to reality|1 I also have allergies Sometimes that case of allergies turns out to be a cold Hard to tell the difference sometimes|0 Has anyone seen panic buying at their local grocery storecostco already If so where are you located|0 I dont read Dutch how many are under 40 Those under 50 make up the majority of the population of most countries so it makes sense thered be a good number of them overall I dont consider an obese 45 year old smoker to be young with regards to my post|1 cant tell if cheering or screaming|0 There are ample video on YouTube from Asia to show people how to make their own masks Just because you cant buy one doesnt mean youre helpless and give up|1 This is the correct answer It appeared in April 40 of everyone caught it and then the vaccine caught up in OctoberNovember five to six months latterAnd the reason it was quick relatively speaking was that it was a flu variant not a novel something and not a coronavirusIve read comments saying its a shame we never spent the money on creating the vaccine for SARS despite it being too late and not needed because then wed know more about creating a coronavirus vaccine and be able to do it faster this time|0 What job is this so I can tell my friends not to work for that company|1 Shill no one wants shills Gross Why tf is this person allowed to silence people|0 I just got home from Costco today and am a little more than 600 poorer because of it Most Ive ever spent there in one trip for mundane type groceries and household supplies No one else seemed to be doing the same while I shopped and its shocking to me that people are carrying on as if nothing is happening|0 Yup noticed that in rChinaFlu last week I wish the CCP had put that much effort in containment and not on controlling messaging The CCP is way over its head and its about to pay a very very heavy price They just dont know it yet|1 Already mamy people dismiss seriousness saying its not the first time that they declared emergency in the last years and nothing really happenedSo yes they need to be careful|0 True But also cant disagree with this article I mean IF the Chinese government had done something after the first patient appeared wouldnt it be able to prevent 99 Thatd be ideal LolHowever China took roughly a month to confirm a completely new virus established initial connection between patients decided on first lockdown that to me wasnt easy to do especially when we look at how some other countries are dealing with it now 2months on|1 Rather than getting all emotional and irrational you could just listen to the careful medical and scientific reasoning that has been presented|0 Hahah okay keyboard warrior|1 It is easy enough to give that order and it should be given Practical issues of child care with parents who may not be able to stay home seem insurmountable as a result of this order though|1 Holy shit I thought I was the only one who noticed this Every time theres good news about people recovering people suddenly start calling it bullshit but if I random article says this Coronavirus will kill millions of people they will believe it right away|0 People accusing others of panic buying are at fault for not preparing before hand Well you can accuse people of panic buying and still be somebody who prepared beforehand|0 Looks like America is doing the same thing|1 Prevention always looks more costly than treatment until you actually have to pay for treatment|0 Im angry but sad at the same timeI feel like Im going out of my way for a group that wont and have not previously done the same for me|0 not airborne but just spread through respiratory droplets right if respiratory droplets can be spread by AC though then thats bad|0 Im telling you they are trying to reduce the numbers of sick immunocompromised and elderly I dont know if insurance is in on it but Im sure mine would love to stop paying hundreds of thousands to keep me alive every year|1 I doubt we are wrong It is a matter of how much China may have lied about the severityat this point My thought experiment for people isWhy did china shut its production in country travel and economy downChina obviously doesnt care much for its citizenry so why go to such an extreme if it is just a fluAnd why isnt production back yet if it has been containedThis has nothing to do with statistics which are obsurdly hard for people to grasp apparently or science and everything to do with simple observation|0 PESSIMISTIC Look at South Korea Look at Wuhan Their extreme measures have worked I dont think their country looks back at it as inadequate This applies to the US because we have been able to see it actually happen over there and have warning Yet Trump decided to call it a democratic hoax and compare it to a common flu THAT is inadequate|0 I agree that could be the case but there is no follow up yet so we simply dont know|0 The latter comment particularly applies for citizens of Russia China Brazil possibly even in Canada unsure countries a wee bit larger than Liechtenstein San Marino Monaco Andorra etc surrounded by or abutting other countries less affluent emerging nations such as India and island nations distant from neighbors|0 Due to the boat traffic a lot of it was sediment that was stirred up As an example in 1997 Grand Forks ND was devastated by a major flood Because the river was basically still during the entire time a lot downtown Grand Forks was covered in clay and small sediment that had always discolored the water I had a geology professor who was one of the first in the downtown area as the water began to recede and he mentioned that you could see how clear the water was in areas that the sediment was able to fall out of suspension and settle Today that river is murky due to the small fine clay sediment in suspension in the water Once the traffic in venice resumes the water will be murky again|1 Yes I do sigh|1 I was under the impression that they were avoiding it because when they call it a pandemic the goal becomes mitigation handwashing etc rather than containment quarantines The goal for many countries was already mitigation instead of containment unless shit actually hit the fan like in Italy but when its already too late So maybe now they might take actions that really matter|1 Your news What news would that be I guess you must live in an authoritarian country to not cover all this Youre the only who asked who he was so its certainly not normal What country do you live in then Its particularly weird after a month as well maybe after a week or so you may not have caught up but not after this longDo they not block reddit as well where you are then|1 schools are cesspools of bacteria and viruses theyre the 1 reason for flu season every single year They bring them home to their parents and spread it around to every other kidparent|0 I know im so proud right now I work for a distribution center|1 What happens if it hits a second circuit breaker today I cant really find any direct information online to answer what Im wondering like what happens to small businesses and such Does it all depend on how much everyone specifically is invested into it kinda talking out loud lol Ill figure it out as the day goes on|1 Exactly If the new time is noon and 530 so be it Just tell usEdit It also bothers me that they still listed yesterdays update time as 1030 I feel its dishonest|0 If you set the app to Any it will prioritize coronavirus but due to an overabundance of donors they are having server outages Sounds like good news to me just need to be patientx200B httpsfoldingforumorgviewtopicphpp312692p312692httpsfoldingforumorgviewtopicphpp312692p312692|1 Hydro is great except it destroys local ecosystems Pick your poisonNuclear doesntSolar is great now with how cheap its getting but oil crashing is actually bad for these renewables|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Your Thursdays sound interesting|1 No testing no cases Trump and Pence dont do science Trump cares more about the stock market than people health Sad|0 How many from Italy poured over the border moments before their lockdown Im fairly sure that would have been a thing|1 My father is eighty and lives in the US and I canceled plans to go see him even though I AM worried about his health especially with this virus going on but canceling is the right thing to do For all I know I could have taken the virus from an airport or the plane right to his door and the same for you with flying right now You did the right thing Thank you|1 Project manager here work from home very much an option although for my own reasons I hate doing it|0 W Bush gave out free money in the early 2000s as an economic stimulus I think it was 300 per person It simulates the economy because people who need money spend it when they get it unlike rich people who hoard money Obviously great way to get some popularity among voters as well|1 I think the best bet is to have them bunker down with enough non perishables to try and ride this out I think its about to get really bad for us here|1 People in the US who want to get tested are having a very hard time getting tested unless their condition is severe|0 Awful virus since children are not getting it as severe thats a good thing adults are getting it and possibly theres orphans in the hardest hit areas of the world Pets and livestock too are vulnerable if caretakers are ill I hope cities get things in perspective here soon and close celebrations and schools|0 Same Never had that feeling before in my life But as soon as I started hearing about what was going on I told my husband of 12 years that it was going to be serious and we needed to get ahead of it Then I joined preppers and here we are A month later So glad we got masks and scant supplies when we had the chance|1 If you dont need medical care you should not be seeking it In December I went to urgent care for a migraine I likely brought home the flu from that trip which I gave to my immune compromised husband A week later he was in the hospital with pneumonia|0 The problem s there are too many Chinese nationals here to be put into concentration|0 In general Tylenol is very safe to use as long as you dont overdose even in patients with liver failure although patients with liver failure have lower daily limits NSAIDs like ibuprofen can be far more harmful even in patients with liver disease Please dont post misleading information on things youre not fully informed about|1 If only the WHO knew how it was spreading around the world Theyve got hundreds of scientists working on it If we could only find out we could stop that and then contain itThe current prevailing theory is its spreading by magic|0 And its not like the stock market is doing great My dad is a boomer from the silent generation born a year before boomers with all his money in the stock market Hes already lost a large amount of what he had back in January and its only going down If he dies I doubt Ill be getting a significant inheritance|0 They should add that as an Easter egg in response to Chinas ban|0 Hey guys I have a scheduled flight to New Jersey tomorrow Do you think I should go or stay put in order to prevent being infected and not being allowed back into the country|0 whats worse is that the virus is called SARSCOV2 and the disease is called COVID19 confusing people more Altrough Cow ID enthusiasts must be ecstatic at the free publicity|1 Yup I am glad you posted this been sitting back wondering myself about my own sickness Started with shortness of breath over the holidays it was so hard to talk to people and not get winded I felt like existing was a chore and just wanted to sleep I am a nurse btw Next I developed Pleurisy to the point breathing became a painful chore on the job I grabbed a pulsometer from my drawer at work and by oxygen was 88 I was SHOCKED and grabbed the Doc to take a listen to my lungs He said pleurisy and heard the crackling sounds of pneumonia After my shift I went to Care Now immediately triaged next and gave me an EKG Chest Xday breathing treatment decadron steroid shot antibiotics and high dose steroids The next day it all got really bad my blood pressure shot through the roof and I was on the floor collapsed and wondering if we needed an ambulance or If I could push through I felt dumb and afraid of hospital bills and a 6k deductible so I just suffered and pushed through in hell This was worse way worse than the Flu Now after the Holidays DOZENS of patients come in with report of similar illness We all were wondering what mystery bug this was that was strep and flu negative My family also got it from me a few weeks later and were so damn sick as well My dad thought he was dying Kids I their 20s lungs were awful had to get them inhalers and mucinex Im going to send for my chest xray records now and pass it on for evaluation We have a lot of patients that travel to China as flight attendants so it is possible we contracted Coronavirus early here Maybe it was maybe it wasnt They are working on an antibody test to tell if you had Covid19 and if your body made antibodies to it but no test exists currently I like you wonder wtf that was all about I did research looking back at our local news for flu stories and did see a rash of December flu negative pneumonia cases in Dallas and some deaths Very interesting|0 Male with A here may as well just give up now|1 Pa ny nj ct ohThrow in texas and cali and youll have 34 of the population in dire straights Fed gov will need to start issuing checks|0 Its a common mistake for native Italian speakers I think he meant terrifying We only have terrificante which means terrifying our word for terrific doesnt even sound similar|0 This assumes no mitigation efforts whatsoever in order to be true|1 He plays with a ball for money You expect him to be a genius|1 This I dont have the best immune system because of autoimmune issues and on top of the NCov19 virus spreading globally there is also the flu strep and some other virus making its rounds in my community I may not go to an actual restaurant for another month or more I will still order takeout from restaurants I know have good hygiene standards but I dont even go to the grocery store right now because there are just too many people Its not the workers in worried about its the customers|0 Problem is its too early in the process to know what is or isnt misinformation ie we dont reqlly know how and why it started it cant just be a coincidence that it began near a virology lab that creates and studies coronaviruses|1 Im confused are your mind blown about me or the host that we are working with|0 I have nursing colleagues posting on facebook sharing memes that its just the flu despite the fact our respiratory consultant has said time and time again its not the flu and its considerably more serious He must feel like hes banging his head against a brick wall|0 Right its not like Mr Maskwarehouse benefits from the disease not spreading because money makes you invincible Its like NOT dumping toxic waste into water supplies to save money Just dumb s|1 This is not inflation Inflation refers to the purchasing power of your currency getting diminished Not to the price of a certain item going up If the price of all items in the market went up at a similar amount that would be evidence of inflation|1 Thats one economic super juggernaut We now need 49 more|1 Yes this is what these people in the Tories are like They really do think like this They probably have had discussions about how at least itll be the stupidest members of society who die off first while they build their herd immunity and that they will deserve it for not ignoring government advice and taking care of themselves They genuinely have that social darwinism mentality of survival of the fittest etc They are sick fucks|0 A week ago I did not think Id be better off in Italy I thought the UK would learn from what happened there and move proactively to save lives even at the expense of financesShoulda looked at literally everything else Boris Johnson has ever done|1 Im a Democrat and agree about Biden as well|1 Seriously Just buy what you are normally going to buy but go at a nonpeak time to save time avoid huge lines and help keep your social distance up And then Stay the fuck homehttpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 good luck finding a maskDoes that go for construction gear too|1 It would have to be an inhaled nicotine source like smoking or vaping|1 Too late for US too Everyone please try to be careful and Im sending my love and prayers Its all we have|1 Dont worry this restriction wont lift for a while Even though its been easing up most people are still very careful and paranoid about travel Most are also very concerned about input cases so the government put in place strict protocols to monitor those who comes back from affected areas Nobody wants the efforts doctors place into this fight to go to waste Even if things go back to normal I dont think itll ever be quite the same as before|0 Like a scene from 28 weeks later|1 Maybe that too with deaths only being reported if there is a confirmed test in place for them as well|1 Despite what that sounds like Copeland was actually one of the best administrators in this crisis|1 Obviously i was exaggerating a little bit But youre still looking at atleast 500000 if you want to get a doctorate|0 Thank you You stay healthy too|1 Its not really viable and I dont see how anyone thinks it will be In fact the problems that it would cause are potentially bigger than the effectivenessIf the entire world did it at the same time it could work But thats not realistic Otherwise the Us isnt letting in flights but how long could they keeP it up for If the virus isnt going away anytime Soon as soon as they open the borders back up the problem starts again Honestly it looks like you would have to keep the borders closed for close to a year assuming we can get a vaccine that works within that time If the US shut everything down like China millions will be fucked Cant work cant afford to stay home especially if they arent even sick Most businesses cant lose a month of revenue and then there are lead times for stuff so it would take another couple months to ramp things up Then you have a ton of peopleLosing their jobs and companies closing that nah lead to More deaths than the virus I think Look Im just a guy with opinions but I dont see how it even helps to shut the borders down since it wont stop the virus everywhere else|1 Catholic teachings might not be extreme like evangelicals but the Catholic church as an institution has still done a ton of damage in many countries and theres many a Catholic with Catholic teachings who turned a blind eye to what it did Im Irish born baptized raised a Catholic Still dont consider myself one thoughIn Ireland the Catholic Church had a choke hold on the country for years contraception banned until the 80s and even then only with very strict restrictions abortion only legalized two years ago We had the Magdalene LaundrieshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMagdaleneLaundriesinIreland we had dead babies buried in septic tankshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMotherandBabyHomesCommissionofInvestigation by nursesnuns thousands of children were systematically raped and abused in the Christian Brothers Schools herehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCongregationofChristianBrothersIreland As for me my mother was sent off to the UK when she was pregnant with my older sister she made the mistake of getting pregnant out of wedlock so it was the UK or send her to a Magdalene Laundry shuffled into a convent had my sister who was immediately taken from her and given up for adoption in Canada Mom was sent home and told to never say a thing So while your experience as being a Catholic was grand as far as Im concerned for many it wasnt and for me it wasnt and the many Catholics who went along with the systemic abuse in the church have a hell of a lot to answer for Its still the goddamn dark ages for plenty of Catholics thanks|0 Ive heard in general day to day life breathing through your nose is better because it filters the air Would it reduce your risk of catching the virus if you only breathed through your nose versus through your mouthIs there any upside or downside to spending time in a sauna|0 Yes Im on fire on FB and I never do that|1 Do you have time to get a bum gun installed|0 The south will be hit hardest by this Mark my words I lived in Atlanta for 13 years The stupidity of part of the Southern population still astounds me|1 Many thanks Im going to install it ASAP|1 Someone thats sick seeing the world burn|0 What is weird is the official release says after leaving the cruise ship these passengers will have to wait 14 days without having symptoms or a positive coronavirus test before they are permitted to Board a flight to the United StatesThat is an odd OR above So basically those Americans on board now likely are showing no symptoms Probably they got tested negative in order to leave Japan testing everyone and letting folk go who test negative So I guess then Americans who leave ship tomorrow or ThursdayFriday are clear on current test and have to wait around Japan 14 days and then sign a statement saying I have had no symptoms for past 14 days while on Japan mainland then they can board But no retest And it does not appear that they will be quarantined after getting back to United States So policy is kinda good but also kinda interesting|1 to be fair they deserve some bashing It most likely came from a wet market which also started the SARS outbreak They literally had a coronavirus outbreak before because of wet markets and went right back to doing it|1 Yeah lets be honest I was talking about Bernie and BidenTrump is going to live to 93|1 Im really sorry to hear that That sucks|0 Yes But the fed rate cuts will not work Look at how the stock market is crashing over the last 2 weeks The trump administration is so insane They think that fed rate cuts will fix a global pandemic They are also intentionally undertesting and underreporting the infections|0 Are our morgues ready for this|1 Far away First death in US just annouced|0 Indonesia also not infected|1 Reddit quarantined the sub for a reasonx200Blike thedonald theredpill and many others Im not saying everything in there has been positive but I never saw any rule breaking They simply didnt like the content|0 I know to temper expectations and I know there havent been a ton of studies but the more I see about chloroquinehydroxychloroquine treatments the more that I think we should be doing this for every hospitalized patient|0 The amount of transparency about each individual case is almost ridiculous The data is best summarized in the two links below Dont open in mobilehttpsinfographicschannelnewsasiacomcovid19coronavirussingaporeclustershtmlhttpsinfographicschannelnewsasiacomcovid19coronavirussingaporeclustershtml how the clusters are linkedhttpsgogovsgcovid19dashboardhttpsgogovsgcovid19dashboard details about where each case lives works places they visited which hospital etc|1 No all of that has been kept a secret to my knowledge|0 Thats why he talked about tax cuts You know what would help Americans Not giving tax cuts holding companies responsible for Thier tax liability and giving Americans affordable healthcare so that people arent more scared of the bill from a doctor than a literal pandemic class virus|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 To be honest I get his point but his solution is misguided If a crowd is that important then the game itself should be postponed not just removing the crowd|1 There appears to be an error in Hubei provinces daily update The number of new cases and the total do not match with yesterdays update Unless there is a correction we are adding only 2531 new cases to the tracker not 2618Source BnO|0 This mother fucker clearly hasnt met a child|0 Keep spinning that shit you might actually weave something|0 Why is this province have the 4th most infected yet the 2nd most deathJust curious Wouldnt those two stats mostly correlate to each otherWell my wording is a bit sensationalist on purposeI wanted that karmaBut I think 2nd most deaths translates to about 45 people at the moment|0 It was a joke we most likely will unless we get super unlucky and the virus mutates for the worst|1 Sheesh Hope they use sunscreen|1 SSP is so little it wouldnt make much difference if they didnt bother with it Its not enough to cover most peoples outgoings|1 My friends and I have planned a trip to Seattle for months now for March 12th15th Should we cancel|1 They built some full scale hosptials in like 5 days i think|1 thanks a lot does the line work or its like COVID19 helpline taking 10hours to connect|1 Right now Im watching a 67 year old man with the virus being interviewed on Fox He was on the Diamond Princess He said for him the virus is not a big deal and if he wasnt being quarantined he would probably go to work So it can be deadly or not It probably comes down to how well your body fights diseases Good nutrition can help with that|1 Sounds like confirmed|1 The conference was canceled and hospital notified staffInternational travel prohibited temporarily Stay well|1 Yeah and under normal circumstances they would maybe skip the doctor But when its a fearfueled pandemic and they think theyre going to die horribly they will go to the doctor I predict we are going to have the OPPOSITE of what youre predicting people will be afraid of dying and decide its worth it to take the financial hit at the first sign of a case of the sniffles That is whats happening in Wuhan also|0 not dangerous at all mans just has to run a country into the ground from his home magically all of a sudden D|1 I dont know how else to say it The standard of being worse than the common cold not too bad and worse than the flu pretty bad and scary are very different I didnt feel that that was conveyed in any of the prior posts I also think its very important to recognize and not conflate the twoI dont see how that constitutes correcting someone over nothing|0 Trump is literally an evil man He and his goons will face harsh consequences for these four years and there is nothing his asshole MAGA hat tiki torch wannabe nazi losers can do about it A reckoning is coming for the American right wing and it cannot be stopped at this point Those people CHOSE to be garbage human beings on purpose and I feel nothing for them anymore They are now the ones willfully spreading around a virus because go team Trump and the natural karma they face for that is just one aspect of how life is going to suck for them going forward Its time for the right in this world to be put in their fucking place once and for all No empathy and pure narcissism has NO place in any society or civilization imo|0 Companiesorganisations are waiting for the government to tell them its okay to let people work from home according to several of my friends who work in various companiescharitiesuniversitiesschools etc Companies arent cooperating because they think the government hasnt told them its time to do anything yet Theyre all carrying on as normal and just waiting Even people with slight coughs or fevers etc are telling themselves its just psychosomatic because of all the stuff about CV and that they should carry on working until the government says its time Government just giving people advice and hoping people and companies cooperate and not implementing or enforcing anything is a joke it is not working|1 your welcome|1 Ibuprofen can do kidney damage over a long period of sustained use It follows that ibuprofen does something to your kidneys even to some small degree|0 But its just another flu Blasphemy|0 Im sorry to hear that May it be brief mild and not transmitted furtherGood luck stranger|0 I suspect its far too late to stop the spread now The time for that was before it got all over the world Now its just a matter of time That said I think it will be just a particularly bad flu season as opposed to something super serious|0 Prelockdown It will go on for quite some time before the first person who was not infected because of the lockdown will not die Weeks Death tolls will not see the lockdown for weeks and detected case curves for days|1 As an American I hate Americans|0 Same way I can disagree with a model that says the earth is flat even when all the experts tell me that god made it flat and put it at the centre of the universe|0 Nope work in an animal shelter and we still need to care for the animals regardless of quarantines Boss wont close to public until mandated to do so We get hundreds of people in a day who have no intention of getting a pet and just wanna muck about because everything else is closed good times|1 Youre being unrealistic Like I said the hospital constructed in 2003 when China was much poorer in a similar timeframe is still standing and operational Corners may be cut on runofthemill projects by private developers who want to save money and time but this is a statecontrolled project built for humanitarian purpose rather than profit|1 Here is the thing They would not have released them if they were still giving off symptoms Is it not possible that the virus could be hiding in the neurons in small numbers and reemerge similar to how HIV can be reduced enough to be unable to be found in a lab test but still be capable of coming back|1 I remember watching a documentary where they actually put a lot of thought into the naming of these things because they fucked up on naming the swine flu and it really fucked with the swine industry because people started associating the 2 together|0 LOL true I have to look at both hastags and bookmark them sometime|1 Utterly incompetent administration I know this will piss off some redditors but this needs to be called out at every opportunity|1 Trouble is its also a legal problem would not have been if the CDCFDA had condoned their testing and waived privacy requirements While I doubt anyone will successfully sue them because of the strong moral argument that guided their decision its a very real possibility that they may have to defend the decision in court|0 Lmao I have no idea why my phone did thatshouldve said compromised|1 NO the difference is too big SK is not that much younger|0 So the Chinese are taking better care of americans than the American govt WTF|1 half the small businesses out there shouldnt close because of an unexpected pandemic pandemics are disasters and we long ago decided disasters get collective relief from fellow citizens our state and federal governments and even international efforts x200BForcing an economic collapse out of your own strict boot straps ethics is irrational at best evil at worst|0 Id rather not out the store since someone could trace it back to me they had a record amount of guns sold Saturday for them then they got a call Sunday from corporate to temporarily suspend all gun sales Responsible gun owners are not the ones crowding these stores which I think is lost in this thread|0 Not really I mean even if bills get paused they will still want to be paid when all of this blows over And I dont want a backlog of bills which is what happened to us after Florence so ours will probably be going to bills|1 The vaccine will definitely be mass produced They are trying to get it out as fast as possible Nowadays a Spanish flu just wouldnt happen because the conditions that the men in the army faced during the Spanish flu was unsanitary due to the war and they were all in close quarters Also doctors didnt even know flu was a virus then and didnt have any treatments whatsoever Also that virus killed young and healthy people the most Life expectancy dropped 12 years in the US during that pandemicBlack Death wiped out almost all of Europe in the 1300s and it took two centuries to recoverYou could forget about a vaccine if you lived during those pandemics You were screwed especially in the 14th century as doctors had no clue about anything then There is no possible way with the technology and knowledge we have today that this will turn into something of that magnitude Worst case its an Asian or Hong Kong flu Your parents if they can should stay home and avoid large crowds Wait patiently I know its hard but eventually youll be able to do whatever you want again We just have to flush the virus out|0 It would if your main concern was to handle the pandemic in the most responsible and effective manner We have a reality TV show star for Pres He cares about ratings and the stock market Better to maintain a fiction than to be responsible and deliver bad news|1 I would straight up grab some eggs out of his cart and say thanks as I walked offI may be a bit salty about the fact I cant find eggs because of panic buyers like that|1 Consider yourself lucky if all that happens is you are asked|1 Remember hand sanitizer doesnt work on viruses Got to wash with soap and water|1 A lot will die|0 Yeah Im happy he did this I find it impossible that Brevard has no reported cases Come on Florida|1 The ones who dont worry are the ones that will spread this disease|1 Greetings from Kansas City Missouri|1 avoid large crowded areas like Seattle|1 Yesterday I asked someone what our plan was and her response was how many people in the state have it Two It was 22 by the like 3 PM yesterday and they dont understand that they havent been testing for it enough|1 You expect Trump to order a national lockdown and help the regular citizen who is not a millionaire dumping money in his pocket But that could damage the personal wealth of millionaires s because it now must be noted when a post is sarcasm thanks to Trump|1 Photo caption says hes sick at least if hes coughing the mask is stopping some of that|0 Is there a communion Do they share one cup|1 Anyone with HIV must be at risk too no Thats 38 million worldwide Fortunately the virus hasnt spread to Africa much yet but I dont know how long that will be true for|1 Like I said the USA isnt run by one dude contrary to what people on Reddit and the Twitterati seem to believeAnd Im not saying his performance was ideal but to make it seem like he invited the virus in and made it cozy so it can infect as many people as possible is quite an unfair way to spin this|1 Really niceIs it why western governments are not taking measures Are they just hoping to flatten the curveTaking measures like encouraging social isolation staying home from work WOULD flatten the curveBut it would have a sharp impact on the stock markets so thats why its not being done|1 Welcome It is odd that theres so many subs by the same mods|1 A lot of grocery stores let you order online for either delivery or pickup When you pickup they will just put the groceries right into the trunk of your car so no need to get outWhich is perfect as long as the delivery person or grocery stocker isnt sick and coughing all over the groceries|1 Would it be a good idea to name a fast food burger joint as nothingburger |1 Yeah Hes there saying its the worst virus that Ive seen in a long career but then forced to once again say that TB currently kills more people World War I didnt kill a lot of people on the first day try to keep up|0 The less people you alert the more there will be on the shelves for youpeople are stupid|0 Ok Tweety|1 I live in Fargo ND We only have one confirmed case of the virus statewide and we still cancelled our St Patricks Day parade America as a whole is not doing nearly enough to stop the spread but Im glad my local community seems to be taking it seriously|1 They dont deserve that respect Look at how they are treating this pandemic|0 Thanks OP A great write up|1 I just did an rough impact assessment for our work place and just doing that freaked me out Im science based a few years back Bill Gates started working on this sort of thing and all the woke people and the researchers were all falling over themselves to make him out like some sort of monster when he was spot on conspiracy theories have consequences People spreading mistrust in science boil my piss Theyll quote data that has been collected by scientists and chose to ignore the scientists telling them to take action exactly the same as with Climate change It is not going away at least not yet|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Because you are afraid of the backlash that would come from the rest of the world Much easier to slowly eradicate them and take over their territoriesThe sneaky but effective way Sad thing is Jews faced this sort of discrimination and bad treatment for centuries and now they are the ones doing it to others Despicable|0 Rice and beans is super cheap if you get it before the stores get rushed by panic shoppers|1 Please forgive the wikipedia link Mechanical ventilation is not without risks particularly for long periods of timehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMechanicalventilation|1 They called them death panels|0 If Id have to take a guess its because your insurance wont cover it and most people arent willing to pay out of their own pocket|1 Italy has a very high percentage of elderly its a favourite retirement country for EU citizensPlus theres a study that suggests ibuprofen only makes COVID19 worse and thats probably what they were recommending in Italy Ill go try and find the article about that and add it to this replyedit its here httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar14antiinflammatorydrugsmayaggravatecoronavirusinfection|0 Date 7DTested TPositive T Increase DTotal Tested DTotal Positive D Positive DDeaths TDeaths D10Mar2626137316931301544156311Mar2747645622251215836836012Mar29764590293922881345868213Mar327717983525300720869210214Mar37746114042864975342687211115Mar40279137220352533232916351416Mar44105154312463826171447350|1 Reverend Bizarre|0 ahhh shit i knew i missed something sorry i stand corrected|0 2 days is pretty fast|1 Source your claims or get the hell outta here China did a good job quarantining themselves Look at the number of new cases in China in the past week they dropped a lot and look at S Korea as well again a big drop I expect a drop in Europe as well if measures are taken China however did a very shitty job of keeping the virus contained in China though They are bigtime jerks for allowing their citizens to travel outside for their new year holiday with the epidemic ongoing and European nations are stupid for allowing those tourists in but who can blame them Italian economy relies on Chinese tourists at this time of the year but its still a very stupid decision cause look at Italy now x200BIf anyone is to blame for this turning into a pandemic its China their government should be held responsible and the European and US governments as well because they allowed the chinese to travel into their countries for touristic revenue x200BHowever we should look at the example of China to contain the virus in Americas and Europe since what they did in China seems to work Or at least use their data to find our own ways|0 It reminds me of this list of quotes Ive read from all different generations across all different times decrying how the next generation is the worst the most entitled laziest generation ever People are people across the ages|0 Good|1 Fuck|0 Seems to be I believe it just worked its way back into the routine Looking back through the years is interesting It was the big one last year too but was not for a couple of years prior to that|1 That ship has sailed my friend|1 I agree Thats why I love reddit|1 Done I hope the project will give more results than Seti |1 To be sure Im worried about safety but somebody needs to document this for history|1 lol I would more than happy to apologize to you and her if I am negative and feel 100 again I am having lower fever and high heart rate right now suggesting some kind of infection|1 For everyone of those 100 people I guarantee theres 20 more that are walking around DFW|1 If you owe a bank a million dollars you have a problem If we owe a bank a trillion dollars the bank has a problem|0 When will our Government get off its ass and do something|0 They dont have a sworn duty to protect the public|1 No shit SherlockYou have no credibility anymore|0 I agree this seems more like a display of weve got this under control I cant imagine this would have any real effect in limiting spread of the virus|1 Postal worker here You wont see the post office close down Maybe offices will close temporarily to clean but its just that temporary There are talks of contingency plans to run at a 60 labor cut once people start getting sick Even with a CBA behind letter carriers and separate ones for mail handlers the Post Office just doesnt care|0 And people will start getting immune Viruses dont come and take over everybody|1 The answer is in the article and a comment below The negative test were from a throat swab The positive test was from a Sample from deeper in the lung This hapoens with flu too There are 2 major ways to get a deeper sample from the lung One is called a induced sputum where you squeeze a little saline down someones lungs to purposely make them cough up a sample from deeper in their lungs A more invasive option that we do all the time when theres a reason to is a bronchoscopy and Bronco alveolar lavage when they go in with a flexible camera and take a sample from inside the actual lung To do this the patients have to be mildly sedated like a colonoscopy or its easy to do when theyre integrated on a ventilator|1 THANK U JHU At least somebody is thinking about us Can pplIn Louisiana get some test after all we just had 14 million come from all over the world for Mardi Gras|1 My husbands cousin works at the affected nursing home She was supposed to go down to PDX area to visit the grandparents and grandpa was supposed to be moved into a nursing home Well her trip was cancelled just to be safe and grandpas move out date delayed|1 Honestly youre severely overreacting and they are underreacting This isnt some end of the world shit its just another thing like SARS Anthrax or Ebola You need to calm down and stop reading so much stuff because its causing you unnecessary panic You and your SO Im assuming are both fairly young and healthy if you do happen to get the flu you shouldnt experience severe symptoms you would just need to quarantine You guys are also most likely even safer being from a small townSit down with your SO explain CALMLY that you got caught up in the online paranoia and got scared and that you wish they wouldnt downplaydismiss your feelings However admit that you have been overreacting and apologize and ask that theyd work on a compromise with youYou both take a multivitamin wash your hands regularly and carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer disinfect commonly touched surfaces in your home and avoid large crowds Thats pretty much the most you can and should do in this situation Panicking does not help anyone and letting your relationship fail because of this is honestly silly|1 My coworker left for Europe a week ago from Texas and is planning on returning within a week or two Will he have to wait until the ban is lifted before he can come back|0 Yeah they said 1014 days and you will|1 Thats some stone cold shit right there Downvote farmer|0 Please note also the major increase of suspected cases at around 9kRaised from 6k to 9k in a day To me it suggest a shortage of test kits and they just classify them as suspected|0 Physician here No honeycomb lungs arent a typical feature of post pneumoniaARDS Such severe lung findings such as that are usually due to ILD which are often a separate etiology Where did you hear this Post ARDs patients usually do well and go on to do well A very small proportion of them need lung transplants|0 To compare this polio puts you in the same category as antivax and other nutters Polio affected kids and all other ages equally About 10 were left crippled This virus predominantly kills the very elderly and has an overall death rate of a few percent max And long term effects are very very unclear as of now Literally nobody knows To say otherwise is fake news By all means protect yourself from it But you will lose respect in the eyes of every reasonable person if you give in to your fears and spout fake news You only make things worse by exaggerating the reality of this virus Go do something else Something productive ideally Stop fear mongering|0 Agreed Hes wasted time and cost lives on a fucking gamble and thinking he was smarter than everyone else Even I knew it was bollocks and Im a complete idiot Fuck Chris whitty|0 Be civil even if you disagree with someone|0 yeah I mean in italy the gap between north and south is somehow the same we can see between north america and south americaWere lucky it happened in the north in the richest and more advanced region in our country who got elite health care levelIf the spread was happened in southern italy we wouldve had like 10000 deaths already and thats not an exaggeration|1 nah just use torrents|0 EXACTLYlike that lol|1 If a worker falls seriously ill and is forced to quit they cannot collect unemployment benefits while they are seriously ill but may be eligible once they recover and are able and available for workWell thats helpful On top of people not actually being diagnosed with COVID this move seems mostly superficial At least it does provide protection to those with lenient employers|1 Vaginal delivery seems to increas chance of transmission during delivery vs csection|1 Hey how does that work Super curiousEdit I get that it is valid under the RFC definitionhttpswebmastersstackexchangecomquestions73934howcanurlshaveadotattheendegwwwblade but how does NYT allow this Overlooked and not checked for in their script|1 Holy shit The stock market is so going up|0 Also to said user your messages are blocked so if youre writing to me dont waste your time|1 Now they are sending masks to everyone and letters of condolences So were even Steven Can we pls get back to building iphones again|1 When people say The US has the best in the world usually theres an unspoken if youre rich at the end of the sentence|1 Life is pretty good here Universal health care decent education beautiful landscape nice people very little racism and violence Life is not that expensive Im not even middle class and I put away money most months still Generally theres upward mobility and worklife balance here and cancer bankruptcyI feel safe here|1 What is the common explanation from the academic community on the low death rate in Germany Is it more testing or smaller family size|0 Yeah true|1 We cant know though if more people are being infected China does a lot to contain it and the current increase in cases could be lately to better testing of quarantined persons|1 Accounts like these really throw a harsh light on the dont worry it ONLY affects older people and those with compromised immune systems if you are young and healthy youll be fine crowd|1 It is like witnessing a convention of absolute utter sociopaths thats about to create an explosive case load onto the medical system because of the current culture of YOLO attitude Call me cold hearted but I think we should deny them medical care on the basis of Darwin Awards and only reserve care for the innocent bystanders they infect and wanted none of this|1 Genuine question is it true that after having the virus one becomes immune I meanevery year I have the flu Not sure about the immunity thing I would love to read from an expert on this but its so damn difficult to find answers now|0 Lets hope it sticks|1 As a US citizen I am so fucking disgusted by this administration I am so sorry to everyone who has suffered as a result of their decisions I did not vote for Trump and never will The lack of empathy and morals is just disheartening Its a shame that the election is so far away from now|0 uh oh this is gonna be bad in the states|0 This is probably his worst speech and I didnt even know he could be this bad|0 Its an easy mistake to be made when the correct thing to do seems like its gross overreacting because were not used to this level of shit to fan ratio|0 If youre very concerned then really your best option is to go and get tested At least then youll know one way or tother|1 Truly an impressive game of 9dimensional golf|1 Wash your hands Vote for BernieDone and done Lol|1 How does furbetti translate to English Makes me think of cockroaches somehowEdit google said sneak but with a more negative connotation|0 Probably end the financially crippling sanctions so they have the money to combat this But fat chance of that happening|0 Not since then It was a true come to jesus moment Never hurt so bad in my life Passed it in the ER thats where the dr told me it was vitamin c Trust me if it works Im all for it Just my experience with megadosing|1 A face mask wont keep YOU from getting sick If You are sick it keeps you from spreading it faster Zirus particles are so small that just breathing spreads them Any paper mask doesnt stop a virus|0 Find a reputable link where in it something specifically says the naming of a virus resulted in insert negative consequence then this argument is yours But so far youve just pulled a strawman using that link A good one though cause I almost fell for it|0 Surprisingly no there has been an explosion of diabetes in China such that theyve caught up to the US and are poised to overtake evenhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201706170627134326htmhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201706170627134326htm|1 Ohio keeping it realistic and science basedTheyre leading in Proactive Awards in the states|1 This made me laugh and smile so hard|1 So a chinese spouse of an Australian citizen who has residency would not be allowed in Thats a serious steplegally we would not be able to do this in the US I believe|0 No here to argue You may be correctMerci|0 I got a FedEx delivery yesterday and the driver was wearing a mask Upon leaving it made me wonder why he had one on when were being told the mask is better for people with the virus He obviously would not be working if he was sick but it made me stop and think for a second|0 Its sooo fucking ironic that you talk about only reading headlines and then said Those are the people the Pentagon is talking to The pentagon isnt referring to the cases in the US news theyre specifically referring to cases in the military The point was that the young age toughness and health of service men makes them less likely to be detected they only know of a few cases but arent ignorant of there being more|1 Please refrain from offtopic political discussion|1 Name one Western country contained better than China|1 Great but how will parents stay home for several weeks unless the government is also covering their pay to stay home|1 Yes current CDC guidelines would have you be isolated at home until you do not have any symptoms or be hospitalized depending on your medical evaluation Edit assuming tested positive for COVID19For people living with you depending on what precautions were taken The people living with you could be quarantined 14 days or just told not to travel and have activeself monitoring with supervision of the local health departmentSource httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovdownloadspublichealthmanagementdecisionmakingpdf|1 Listen about the whole Sunny Ways thing People misunderstood himSonny Ways is the nickname of his mob enforcer who keeps Ministers and MPs in line As in if you dont do as I tell you Im going to send over Sonny Ways I hope that clears up the confusion JWR and Jane Philpott know what Im talking about|1 Theyre waiting until individual schools have exposure then only closing short termNot a good solution when this is still expanding|1 I will be messaging you in 26 days on 20200331 145224 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003312014522420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfbubz4exclusiveusdefensedepartmentexpectsfj6knu6context346 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffbubz42Fexclusiveusdefensedepartmentexpects2Ffj6knu62F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020033120143A523A2420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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call to give them kudos once more as they were truly great and I know their job is hard|1 When did you have it Its also entirely possible you guys had the regular flu its still here|0 We bro keep living in a fairy tale where you pretend you wouldnt make a killing if you couldAt least Im honest|1 THANK YOU|1 So then arent people with more robust immune systems more at risk of having severe symptoms So much younger people but not children Im so confused|0 The narrator for book on tape is little dry so Id actually recommend reading over tape IMO|1 Chinas economic slump has been a long time in the making and at this point anticipated In the US there hasnt been a bubble thats burst its just panic and speculation There is a real economic impact to people staying home and opting out of the market for a while but not anything structural I hold by my prediction And Japans lost decade was in the 90s|0 We are all fattened up for the slaughter like wagu beef but hey its wagu beef its the best in the world|1 Your post has been removed because this may not be a reliable source Please resubmit your post with a link to an internationally recognized news organization or an recognized institutionIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 I was sick 2 days this week and worked at home a 3rd Even the 2 days I was off I still was checking email I told my boss I could provide a doctors note He still pulled me in his office to express concern I had been off so long I was pissed|0 It sounds wild and like a bunch of fearmongering bullshit butThere have been literally hundreds of videos from China and Iran of people who just died in the street with their mask on On any given day people just die unexpectedly from heart attacks aneurysms etc but in most of the videos the people look fairly young and healthy watch at your peril some are pretty disturbinghttpsarchivenothingburgertodayVideosInfectedorDeadOne theory is that since SARSCoV is known to infect the brainstem then theres a chance that the new SARSCoV2 is doing the same and if thats happening then if untreated could impact breathing in a sudden and catastrophic way scientific article on that herehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed32104915 and doctors in china reported on ithttpwwwxinhuanetcomenglish20200305c138846529htm where they found a neurological infection in a patient and treated him|0 Theres 14 billion people with Chinese citizenship Even if the entire population of Wuhan 11m people were infected theres only a 08 chance the Chinese person you meet is one of them|0 Although the teacher had been in a coronavirus hot zone and displayed the symptoms the doctor said because the teacher did not have a compromised immune system and was not elderly the teacher could not receive the required CDC testThis is insane logic Those kids he taught might have it now and spread it among their familiesCDC doesnt think long term|0 You can disinfect mail and packages with bleachlysol open them with gloves and dispose of gloves not in your home Also I only check my mail once every few weeks I pay bills onine|0 By keeping my existing iPhone until later this year Need that 5G goodness when it becomes available|1 I believe its 2 mutations per monthcryptic transmission of novel coronavirushttpsbedfordioblogncovcryptictransmission|1 Italian here all confirmed So true when you sayall businesses are still open because otherwise the economy would collapse it already isThe economy is already broken at this stageMind you stores are closed now March 13th 2020 with the reported exceptions but factories and companies are still running Those who are allowed smartworking are doing their job from home but a lot of people is still going to work even in businesses that arent linked to national security at all Given the pace with which the virus is spreading and ICU beds are filling I expect to hear the PM announcing a stricter shutdown that includes companies as well in onetwo weeks|1 What can you explain about how the virus behaves in warmer climates|1 A better way of thinking imo|1 Bingo That is exactly the sand that collapses underfoot|0 The stupidity of that comment Absolutely insane|0 Lol most rich people dont give a fuck about anyone but themselves Hopefully this virus wakes them the up|1 Sounds like the problem is solved great job China keep the propaganda machine running Nothing to see here folkshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvpdFlNlOpA|1 I searched it a couple of hours ago and wondered why nothing was there We need more of this from companies doing good guy things|1 More people should have the same mind set as you Kudos Hope you get better soon|1 In the USA and to a lesser but definitely observable degree in other English speaking countries at least unions have been slandered and beaten out of any functional existence in many placesindustries Aeronautical fields tend to have good union representation but this will vary widely based on which union which airline which rolespecific industry job a given union represents within the wider industry for example pilots unions are not engineers unions and so on and its a mess Im a union member but with the IWW so my union experience is not that of someone in an industryspecific union which may operate much differently But problems with union representation and effective worker measures such as strikes etc are ongoing in the west And of course due to antiunion propaganda in the USA more than anywhere else at the moment its entirely possible a large number of people are simply not union members at all so they might lose their jobs if they simply walk off A wildcat strike of airport workers etc might also help get the point across or maintenance crew refusing to show up pilots refusing to show up etc would effectively ground a fleet through sheer lack of mandatory personnel It would be interesting if that would happen but unfortunately unlikely as many people would end up fired even with union rep in the USA anyway|0 Seems to help me|1 I work in a bar in Amsterdam and yesterday before the lockdown there were multiple groups of young Belgiums inside who said they didnt take it serious and wanted to have drinks so they travelled to Amsterdam So stupid|0 Dude the article isnt long and has good visualizations It already explains like your five Take five damn minutes to read the thing and educate yourself|1 I had no idea I guess with good public transportation they wouldnt need them|1 Well he just paid his penance for his shitty actions The reddit mob is still going at it after he donated over 17k to atone for this What have you done today besides judge someone|0 So you are ok with this|1 the same thing happens with the fluah yes the annual shutdown of Italy|1 well the authorities are never going go say The virus is here and youre going to get infected and its really bad and theres going to be food riots You will never get that they will always try to soothe you because people will go on survival mode and not in the nice way So they do a lot of small talk and general neutral recommendations which are really orders|0 the mainland government has already suspended issuing more travel permit tho|0 How to Not Make a Soup 10 practical tips to avoid a genocide|0 I support your case but changeorg does nothing|1 My parents were just there I picked them up at the airport and I just hope they arent sick They could have bumped into you for all we know There are so many people who go in and out every day and that is a nightmare waiting to happen|1 My mother saw recently Poland a person wearing a mask she called me to the window and said how dumb that person is and how stupid he looksSo welllll|0 I found httpsCvmasksgithubio and it has studies worth reading|1 I will not be the weak link|1 How many of us know peersfamily who have the flu right now Two in my household and several in my classes as well as a couple others who were absent for weeks before this Coughing fever all that but simply calling it a cold or just the flu Its scary|0 httpwwwsiaartiitSiteAssetsNewsCOVID192020documenti20SIAARTISIAARTI2020Covid192020Raccomandazioni20di20etica20clinicapdfhttpwwwsiaartiitSiteAssetsNewsCOVID192020documenti20SIAARTISIAARTI2020Covid192020Raccomandazioni20di20etica20clinicapdf All written in italian but you can easily translate it This is the link to an official document of the SIAARTI the italian national association of intensive therapist anesthesysts and rianimators The title isRECOMMENDATIONS OF CLINICAL ETHICS FOR ADMISSION to INTENSIVE TREATMENTS AND FOR THEIR SUSPENSION IN EXCEPTIONAL CONDITIONS OF IMBALANCE BETWEEN NEEDS AND AVAILABLE RESOURCESpoint 3 It may be necessary to place an age limit on entry into the ICU It is not a question of making merely valuable choices but of reserving resources that could be very scarce to those who have the greatest chance of survival first and secondly to those who can have more years of life saved with a view to maximizing the benefits for the most Number of person In a scenario of total saturation of intensive resources deciding to maintain a first come first served criterion would still amount to choosing not to treat any subsequent patients who would remain excluded from the Intensive Care Unit|1 Thats a very good comparison actually Its exqvtlt the mindset we should have|1 get a grip is not an opinionIf youd said lets not woory yet its just one case you might have had a more positive reply from me Your response was rude I and many others have every right to be worried if we see fit|1 Hopefully theyre okay it must be absolutely terrifying to see a disease rip through your country like this never mind going into full national quarantine|1 its easy you close the airports and the border crossings with the US done and donewe can still let essential cargo in and out|1 A lady in my city Facebook group was bragging about flying to Disney Land with her family and saying how she hopes its less crowded I left the group because I realize Im living along side complete idiots and it was raising my blood pressure|1 Not sure why youre getting downvoted You enact a death penalty not shooting on sight no one will fuck around Some people are too fucking weak to accept that No amount of respect should be shown to someone who holds no regard for anyone else especially not in this situation They are literal threats to society fuck em I couldnt care less they knowingly made the decision to risk the life of others leading to death Treat them with the same respect|0 100 didnt even think twice Ah sure heres Spongebob|1 Next report will be close to 5000Italy takes draconian measuresUSA takes no measures only tests hospital cases to see if they need isolationDisaster incoming|0 You cant make this shit up CCP is going off the rails completely|0 Not sure if im blind but I do not see California or more specifically NorCal mentioned in this article at all|0 My work has mentioned the possibility of work from home but the reality of it happening is slim to noneI work in Vancouver BC which is just over the border from WA where theyve got the worst of the infection in the US so far Theres constantly people going to and from Everett Bellingham Seattle in this city Weve also just had a few confirmed cases of community spread not far from where I work However my work has just sent an email saying should we ask employees with family members who have travellers recently returned from China Iran Italy Japan South Korea refrain from coming into work for 2 weeks And Should we include family members returning from Hong Kong as well Like theyre about 5 weeks behind reality Im just accepting Im going get it at this point and hope for the best|1 I mean its pretty clear how the upvoting system works on Reddit lol|1 Check out prepper boi Son you dont want to live after a mass catastrophe trust me|0 They are just confused because here in the US we have personal and professional responsibility That means someone is held responsible for events like this Maybe the rest of the world would do even better if they adopted the same fairness policy that we have We arent perfect but at least we know there is recourse when you have been wronged I agree this cruise company is fucked International waters or not they will get sued and end up settling for huge amounts of money not to mention the huge hit to their business model aka a petri dish|0 We are going to imitate China because Trump likes Xis strongman styleIts really that simple|1 do we know where in germany im in berlin and this city is like a giant airport millions of people coming and going every single day Im sure its just a matter of time until it gets here|1 The travel industry is going to get hit hard Its going to be a tough couple of months years for themFTFY This thing is going to circle the globe multiple times over multiple seasons if past experience with coronavirus epidemics is any guide|0 Since my son is a paramedic in a huge North American city this is a little more than worrying Yes front line health care workers need to be protected so they can be there when we need them Without them situations like this would be tenfold worse than this|1 OP If you think this idea has some merit please pass it on to whoever I think it could help greatly if requiredhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfao5dbideatobuildnoncriticalpatienthospitalsfast|1 Wuhan has around 19 million people in the metropolitan area Ohio has 11 million in the state The urban area of Wuhan is 590 sq mi and the state of Ohio is 44825 sq mi If you believe China the number of infections was around 100000 but obviously their numbers are as legit as their markets Still population density played a huge role in spreading this virus and saying 100000 people have it in Ohio is dumb how does that help people stay calm|1 US doesnt have any kind of official number for how many cases we have and hoe many tests weve run worldwide The virus is spreading far faster than we know and we have no data or supplies to handle it|0 I hope we can weld their doors shut the people of Wuhan on the other hand did nothing wrong Otaku are a plague of their own|1 A system like UBI would work off VAT and is more capitalist than socialist|1 lol thanks for the correction|1 I remember watching a video by some Western doctor where he effectively said this Most symptoms are flulike and maybe about 15 develop into pneumonia because of a secondary infectionThat said the scary part at least to me as a layperson is that you can be walking around feeling fine and be spreading it The death rate is around 2 but they said that millions possibly up to 60 of the world populationhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulation With a death rate of 2 that still comes out to tens of millions dead|0 Retail worker here At any given time there are AT LEAST 50 people in the store I have already come to terms with the fact I WILL be exposed to the virus so hey at least I will get that extra 2 weeks of paid sick leave|0 Kickass thanks|1 Im hoping and praying for a way out I feel very lucky to still have a job at this point my heart goes out to those who are in worse positions Thank you so much for the offer my wife and I are going to do what we can to get through this Our doomsday plan is for me to join the military for the housing and insurance benefits We were thinking about it already but it was a what if as we were already in a tough position I dont want to have to possibly miss the birth of our child and a good portion of their growing up|1 The article I found says he got symptoms after the concert Doesnt mention if he travelled or how he got it As for now the advise is to keep living as normal including going to crowded events if you dont have any symptoms One would think its obvious this excludes people in quarantine or others of risk of having it|0 Native Cambodian here the point you made about peoples disappearance is not true Cops only put you in jail for like a couple of day to weeks until you pay them off Also the government just implemented a lese majeste law like those of Thailands so you basically cant say anything or risk getting jailed for fake news|0 Yeah I looked tooweeks ago lol and found nothing|1 Thats how you get an account suspended repetitively sharing fake news links and other banned links pornography racism etc|0 Those countries are also reliant on Chinese imports|1 If it burns out in the summer he will definitely take 100 credit for it|1 This is good news indeed but it would have been interesting if they were positive for the virus insteadThen when it turns out everybody else from the ship all 7000 of them didnt get the virus from these two people would be much more relaxedHell the norovirus would have been more of a problem than the coronavirus|1 A couple bouts of diarrhea in a humid room especially if theres a shower and youve got yourself a disgusting pile of E coli Theyre sitting on the floor how are they going to clean that Or did they just put their grubby hands on every roll and stack them in the dirtiest room of the house for a picture only to transfer them to a closet elsewhere in the homeAnd why is the lid up Does this person not even close it when they flushThis picture is gross|0 No we did Were just too arrogant to think its of any use to us|0 no better reason people have to eat those in power than to survive mass panic and fear will do quite a number to the general mental state of people|0 This is the exact tactic Absolutely nothing has changed in my town Grandparents still picking their grandkids from school full nightclubs the city center full of people handshaking and countless people laughing at the flu being much worse and killing way more people Me and my girlfriend both work for the NHS and hospitals dont even know what to advise their own workers Its absolutely insidious and a lot of people are about to die as a result of our governments inaction Our culture of Sun readers and Boris backers are walking backwards into their loved ones graves whilst being told its all gonna be alright|0 2 in 1000 is also the cases that go to the hospital What happens when the hospitals are full This is why its so important to know the rate of severity in younger people and why Im afraid that it wont be much lower|1 Ive been using it as one for a while Worked out well for me so far The volatility is just part of itits like a pulse You get used to it|1 Come on I know many people are downplaying this illness and you are desperate to prove them wrong but spreading bullshit wont serve your cause|0 Me too Like a train wreck in slow motion the train wreck part being the way the WH is handling this|0 Pandemic killing men women mostly affected|0 They dont care People need to understand it will not be possible to stop this or save everyone Do not rely on govt or healthcare to help you if you get sick Your best bet is to avoid crowds public and reduce risk of transmission Godspeed everyone|0 The virus from contagion|0 Here I joined right around the time Wuhan started blocking freeways with giant piles of dirt to stop their residents from leaving Thats when I knew something terrifying was about to spread to the rest of the world Like something out of a movie|0 The linked website bloombergcom may not be reliable Remember to always take the claims of unrecognized or unofficial sources with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Damn Italy is really getting hammered Being the first major outbreak outside of Asia means they didnt have any time to prepareGermany and South Korea seem like obvious outliers in terms of a lower mortality rate relative to the number of infections so far Whatever theyre doing it must be working|0 The theory works well in practice but ONLY if the virus spread DOES NOT EXCEED the lowerslower curve Meaning that you can slow it down but if you only have 300000 hospital beds available nation wide and people are arriving by the hour and staying 2 weeks or more you are going to run out of hospital capacity httpswwwstatnewscom20200310simplemathalarminganswerscovid19httpswwwstatnewscom20200310simplemathalarminganswerscovid19|1 Im wondering if there arent mutated more deadly versions of this virus in iran and china we may just have a kinder gentler version of this particular plagueor its related to the presence of receptors in particular racial groups there was an early report about that that I havent heard about in a while Asian males have a large number of ACE2expressing cells in the lung which may partially explain the male predominance of COVID19httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762510|1 Buckle up Were Americans We are going to have some of the worst infection rates seen by any other country We NEVER stay home from work Our HR policies have always been VERY hostile toward anyone taking bed rest or time off We cant afford it we live pay check to pay check with our dystopian form of industrialized poverty for full time workers Finally our health care system is one of the worst of any industrialized nation Its great if youre rich If youre not rich then you cant afford to even see a doctor to get a doctors note By the way front line health care providers are all going to get infected with this virus because people will be coming in for notes instead of staying home or going directly to a hospital Yeah were going to self medicate Were about to witness how much of a clusterfuck American healthcare is|0 This is possibly the greatest example of virtue signaling on earth youre literally more likely to get Coronovirus from a Canadian than you are a Chinese person is so filled with stupid that I hope you are a bot for your own sake Racial profiling in medicine happens thousands of times a day genius but youre so woke you scream muh rayssist at anyone singling someone out Better get back to the drum circle genius theyre getting to the good part|1 thats why I am against people blindly repeating things they were told at school especially things that happened 10000 years ago with scant evidence we dont really know and its better that people realise the limits of knowledgegiant sloths sabretoothed cats mammoths and other megafauna also vanished at the same time at the end of the last ice age in america and europe but people will still jump to humans did it because their teacher who didnt know any better told them sohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvd2nKGyI74iI|1 You should see what its like in Canada This Virus is nothing more serious than influenza No health emergency here Theyre also bringing those people off the Diamond Princess to a very heavily populated area Its not even a medical facility I know I wouldnt want to live in Cornwall Ontario oh and I wouldnt want to be the medical staff forced to treat them either Sorry but I think this is very political here Election year in Canada and the states|0 Yes what it is really strange for the death count its it growth by 40 each day regulary While during infectious disease numbers are normally geometrical not arithmetical The number of casualties is probably under evaluated|0 The City of Austin tried to keep it going The is why they havent said if that person tested positive for the virus They sent the samples not to the lab in Lubbock to get the results back faster They sent it to the CDC in Atlanta Once Ozzy cancel that was it|1 Freedom of assembly is about the government not being able to interfere in the forming of associations whether political or not Hes not saying you literally cant get together with other people at all which would violate freedom of assembly|1 Its good advice to stay away from hospitals As of now theyre hotspots for getting infected However we NEED drive in testing NOW and possibly testing by mail so that people can find out if they are in fact infected without putting others and themselves if they are not infected at risk|0 Heartbreaking|0 You are quite the dumbass keep spreading fear and buying up shit you dont need Wash your hands you nasty piece of shut|0 Its a business trip If they can afford to fly and send you there they can afford more than the bare minimum for what qualifies as food Also ive spent upwards of 20 bucks on enough food for myself at McDonalds They arent super cheap anymore unless youre purposefully only getting value menu and at that point give me a break|0 Nothing You dont compare it to anything It is its own entity just like all the deseases before it|1 Everyday its looking like warm weather really affects the transmission rates of this virus Thailand is one of the biggest tourism spots for the Chinese and they are reporting 50 cases Even if they are not testing they should be weeks AHEAD of Italy and Iran not weeks BEHIND in terms of a disaster However Ive seen no reports of overcrowded hospitals or people dying in the streets in Thailand No government quarantines no lockdowns nothing With such stark differences we need to start considering external factors like pollution health of the population and weather|0 I agree but right now the government has done nothing but cause a problem by bringing back most of the infected cases that caused community transmission and then failing to properly address it CDC has been a complete disaster of an organization|0 This is beautiful thank you|1 Oh my God |1 As of right now yes|1 Natures revenge are the exact words used by this investigator and antiwildmeat activisthttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvY7nZ4mw4mXwt1205Start from 1250 for the investigation into wet markets still operating outside China Its not just China the demand for such meat is global and such markets also exist in Africa This is what happens when you dont feed people and they go hunting in the forest And then a black market by criminals starts operating and then it becomes resistant to government intervention due to bribes and threats|0 Isnt Italy like the second oldest country in the world Maybe an old italian is more likely to survive than an old american but theyd still be at a high level of risk overall and theres just so many of them|0 Heres some backgroundSeveral of them from Sichuan province volunteered to go to Italy when they were not assigned This is because in 2008 Italy rescue team was the FIRST to arrive and help after a deadly earthquake at Mianyang Sichuan Around 600 Chinese were cured by Italian team Were flowers of the same garden|1 To me it sounded like he was holding back a cough at a few points|1 While not having symptoms you cant know youre infected then youre just an anxious fella|1 But really Did anyone else get surprised by this|1 Are you sure that was their intent My recollection is that it was an acknowledgement that that many will be infected Even in Germany which is taking strict measures they are quite explicit that 23rds of the population will still get it because containment no longer viableHerd immunity will slow down the spread of the virus when enough people have had it and are carrying some level of immunity whether permanent or only for a year or so It therefore doesnt make sense for them to try to infect 80 as fasts as possible thus overloading the NHS in order to use the resulting herd immunity to slow down the infection rate such that the NHS can copeI am not defending them being slow to act and I think they should have brought in measures sooner but that doesnt mean their aim was to infect large proportions of the population|0 i dont understand why do people want to get diagnosed congrats you get to stay home for 2 weeks not like they send you home with some oxys|1 thanks|1 I check this sub every few days and thats all Ive been seeing tbh pathetic place that seems overrun by lefties|0 One guy saying this My safety depended on everybody Being scared of police and begging wont helpSo we have to all rise up doesnt make it true China has put a lot of public figures in prison for years They have no problem killing people and putting them in prison They killed thousands of people in Hong Kong in a one year period They have no problem putting someone in prison despite people knowing about it This is like saying if we just all get on Twitter North Korea will not do X At the best its just speculation that the government will be influenced by what people think Being scared of police and begging wont helpSo we have to all rise up Remember what happened when people rose up during Tiananmen Square China is not going to change by people rising up Any one in China speaks up against the government at their own risk and the risk of their family|0 The main difference between JFK and Malpensa is the amount of testing that has been done in bot places In NY you simply have no idea how many infected there are Most likely it is safer in Milan than in NY No clue doesnt mean safe|0 Failure of planning is planning to fail CDC Theyre asking the public to put themselves at risk because they bungled the containment of an epidemic and are trying to cover it up for sake of political games further leaving the public in the dark about how bad the mismanagement actually is|0 One of my moms friends was bragging a few days ago about her cheap flight to paris Now her dumb ass is going to be stuck in Europe since flights home are cancelled for a monthWhich is exactly what I told her was going to happen But you cant fix stupid|0 Except its exactly like that httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfg4zhbcoronaviruscantraveltwiceasfarasofficial|1 I went to market basket today Just like every other day with my son Care free as ever You may have seen us he was stretching his little legs from red tile to red tile carefully skipping the white making our way throughout the overly crowded isles of people worried about stocking up On toilet paper Vinegar um chicken The lady in front of us had a pile of chicken All the chicken Well if it makes her feel better To each their own i guess Good thing we were here to get pizza stuff I guess too bad for anyone else who wanted chicken or to you know use toilet paper this weekAs i sit here as a mother a parent in the middle of a global pandemic i sit here unfazed by novel coronavirusWuhan fluSARSCoV2covid19 Whats its name nowAm i worried Short answeryesLong answer No more than usual My daughter is one of the pediatric flu Deaths in Febuary 2018 What she tested positive for was fluA one of the two main strains of flu every yearGreat name right FluA Tells you so muchTurns out fluA is another name for H1N1Dig a little deeper youll find this H1N1 is also SWINE FLU of 2009 then dig a bit further and youll learn its also known as the Spanish flu of 191819 FluA has a few aliases Gotta keep the panic to a minimum some how i guessAs i sit here surrounded by neighbors friends and FAMILY who are coronavirus hyped As the Government and other officials shutting down well everything While our schools are closing While the news is flashing segments on hand washing I know my local Mayor mentioned it at some point when absences for the FLU began regularly hitting 20 in FebruaryThank you what about before my February 20 of our students had the flu all the same time What about the rest of the time and the rest of the country Why now Did this all happen in November when flu B was spreading early like wildfire this season and i missed it Did it happen in November between the black friday ads What about December last minute Christmas shopping did santa wash his hands between chimneys he had to of used hand sanitizer at least right Did i miss this wash your hands enthusiasm when everyone promised to be better people to the world and healthier for new years I was told particular things in the blurred weeks following that day in February My city set up flu check stations Thank you cityWe ran out of the vaccine Twice i think Thank you peopleA little boy my daughters classmate asked why the flag wasnt at half mass for my daughter It promptly was Thank you but mostly thank you to that young boy i commend his heart and thoughts That news crews were looking for me EverywhereMy infant niece was in ICU because she tested positive as well no one told me until she was well in recovery she now has breathing issuesthe man who installed the sprinklers died from the flu the week before my daughterSomeone i went to school with sent their daughter to school knowing she had a fever of 104 then it took her three hours to go and pick her up When it comes to the health and safety of your child and others in your community why risk exposing others to something that can KILL them If you suspect that you or your child could be ill with anything just stay home its not only the flu that can cause extreme sorrows Get checked out get well Do anything except expose others Knowingly exposing others is as good as playing Russian roulette but with the lives of strangersIn truth i was going to keep my son home tomorrow indefinitely until i felt comfortable sending him back to school This is not a new behavior for me This is not because of a new pandemic this choice is because I can not trust others in my community to not risk the health of othersI am glad this is being treated with caution I just hope this global pandemic opens peoples eyes to what has already been going on for centuries Cause us to make some changes for the better Learn from this let it scar your memories Scare your hearts Teach your children thisCover your cough with your elbow Wash your damn hands people Up to your elbows is best yes like doctors or food preps Coronavirus is dangerous and unpredictable The news is pushing the hand washing because its been found that coronavirus can survive in poop practicals DropletsAlso Dont rename it Regardless of if this were poor security of biological experiments a mutant bat or snake The conditions and practices of that market have been proven unsanitary and unsafe The world needs to learn from it our rivers the future needs to learn from it Do all the things Do whatever you think you need to make sure health and safety of ourselves and the community are put first Just remember and learn from thisTruth is i have always been a parent in the middle of a global pandemic WE ALL HAVE Just nobody told me until February2018 Thank you httpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyindexhtmThese numbers for this season will change for at least the next two yearshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovInformation on how to mitigate coronavirusI always thought that February vacation was to help mitigate illnesses Turns out it was just for budget cuts from fuel cost and a teachers break|1 I will be messaging you in 7 days on 20200322 090138 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003222009013820UTC20To20Local20Time 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doesnt NYC have a ton of cases yet|1 I was ordered to self quarantine by the CDC once and I complied with the rules I was a college student and playing in the pit for an opera that I wasnt enjoying I got out of class and rehearsal and was thrilled even though I was staying with family and the only movie they owned was the SpongeBob movie I watched it like ten times Quarantine me again and Ill comply again Its 2020 We have streaming services and smartphones and I already got my stash of food but even if I didntits 2020 and I can order grocery delivery from my phone It blows my mind that people cant comply with quarantine|1 Here in the UK we have 10 to 14 days before we are where Italy is now unless the wash hands and some social distancing happens But while Ireland cancels St Patricks Day whats going up in Time Square Newcastle A fucking marquee for a St Paddys day party Way to turn 4 cases to 400 4000 40000Send Uni students home now we can finish it online give us a month and online learning can happen and change Higher Education forever a few years early Schools dont need to close infected kids wont die but their grandpas might parents need to keep infected kids indoors and away from elderly relatives free Netflix Amazon PSN and XBOX Live might help self isolation be less of a drag|1 No most are US companies I use Zulka which is a nonGMO unrefined sugar that is cheaper than US grown organic Wholesome sugar Zulka sugar is grown in Mexico and carried in both Walmart and Sams Club Wholesome is a US grown sugar Costco I keep a couple hundred pounds of sugar at all times I bake everything we eat I just checked and my local Sams will allow me to buy 100 lbs of Zulka for pickup so sugar shortages arent local America protects US sugar growers so I wouldnt expect to see sugar shortages other than spotty shortages caused by hoarding or transportation delays|0 Chinese people right now are buying any kind of surgical andor N95 masks any kind of glasses andor gloves and plenty of soap and Dettol There is no shortage of anything else in China and there will not be apart from Wuhan properThe CDC guidelines you have posted seem to only apply to a general non specific type of emergency If you have a specific link that deals with supplies during a viral H2H outbreak please post it instead|0 Up Until This Point We Have Been Viewing Coronavirus in a Hypnagogic StateIts now time to situp wake up and be extremely aware of our inner outer human experienceThis is a worldwide framework realtime reporting of our public version of hurricane KatrinaThis is a unforeseen gut punch that like Houdini will be a finality for many of usApril 2020 is what total disruption of a species looks likeAll definitions disappear|0 More people need to read this if only to be reminded that this outbreak isnt Plague Inc or Contagion The numbers arent just statistics theyre real people with real families Earlier today I read a comment here that went Why are there no deaths outside China yet and whoever posted that should be fucking ashamed of themselves|0 u are a fucking nutter give ya head a wobble ya fuckin pub lunch head cunt|0 Then dont believe it I think your friends are either A full of shit and telling you what theyre told to say or B your friends dont even know theres community transmission their bosses dont know theres community transmission and the heads of government dont even know theres community transmission theyre in denial because once you admit theres a community transmission everything has to be shut down except essential services You think the people that most rely on the economy as a measuring stick for how good of a job theyre doing are going to want to shut it all down and lose business|1 Its going to be incredibly odd admitting to our progeny that I was on a quack subreddit that turned out to be 100 right about a horrific pandemic I feel like that weird nerdy whistleblower journalist from Stranger Things|0 I am so sorry You and your people will be in my thoughts |0 Its weird when you watch it spread in real timeMorel like unhealthy The stress of worrying about the virus is going to kill me before it even gets here|0 Stop lying|0 But if I dont at the very least I did a once over on anything else existing on the things I touch daily Dont intend on wiping it down more often than necessary but it did feel good to wipe it down tonight|1 I absolutely love stuff like this After spending some time in a hospital last year nurses and medical staff are just amazing people and i cant thank you guys enough I will be clapping loud on my balcony in canada as well My Italian friends like me know if you hear me|1 Flu Tang Strain |0 Zinc supplements have also been shown to be the only supplement to reduce the time you have a cold Though interestingly it doesnt do this by a boost but prevents your immune system going nuts and keeps it in balance Zinc reduces excessive inflammation So actually zinc is likely a good bet for Coronavirus too|1 I just saw an add for Amazon packers starting at 20 an hour|1 This is definitely not the scariest virus of all time|1 Wow a clickbaiting American youtuber who lived in China is your medical and scientific source|1 We have one near me and Ive gone everywhere but there for this very reason This is a solid business decision|1 estimates that 23 of those who were infected diedhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSpanishfluMortality|0 Im in ma too and I do have a decent amount of emergency stuff like Advil and waters and shelf stable milk etc I do think Im going out today to grab more Theres five people in my house and stuff goes quickly so I want enough to last without having to rationI work in a high school and theres a hospital in my city so I feel like I need to be prepared especially for my kids|1 They are always crying Bbut America does something similarly bad while pointing to something barely comparable And its pretty funny that China is now using America as an excuse for mediocrity whatwith their usual attitude of superiority|1 Giant Original Army Toad Hes the only one left since the Storm|1 and due to Brexit the UK are exemptthat was good timing|1 Ay congratulations|1 Ah finally all the sheeple are gonna see that this thing is a big problem now|0 That doesnt matter Here in Denmark when they cancelled elective surgery that meant everything that wasnt life or death type deal So if youre in pain and need surgery that is cancelled I means every knee shoulder cosmetic back surgery etc is cancelled Unless there is a direct threat to your health its a nogo|0 Thats not taking into account a potential healthcare system overload If 20 require critical care but a large portion of them cant because the system is overwhelmed the death rates will skyrocket|0 Hopefully these will be announced soon I feel bad for everyone affected|0 Cheers mate|1 He should go in the next Darwin Awards calender|1 Theres so much confusion around when it started Im just looking more at the countrywide lockdown of Italy to when China locked down 700 million people Im just hopeful their numbers come way down|1 I have to wonder at this point if they have immunity now that they survived it Like China was a big chicken pox party|1 The CFR is actually going to be much lower than 34 percent Also 1 percent isnt optimistic that is probably where it will be could even be lower with some suggesting 06 percent mortality rate I mention this because of the high number of people who remain asymptomatic or have symptoms so mild that they dont seek testing or theyre denied testing The only way well find out is in a year perhaps two years for all data on CFR and mortalities|0 Its not comforting to hear that the government is responsible for manufacturing and distribution of kits Are there no private distributors|0 Except youre comparing Australia at 200 cases with France and Italy at 1000 cases after social distancing methods such as banning events or in Italy a full lockdown has already been taken At 1000 cases both countries were growing by over 30 per day check wikipedia And even with your comparison Australias numbers are still lower|0 I grabbed a hundred of em a month ago from home Depot Got the last of their stockPlan to use em if someone in the house gets sick|0 Im so mad It always start there but they are able to limit it while we western are fucked|0 China the worlds biggest maker of medical masks signalled on Thursday that it would not limit exports of the product saying it would abide by free trade and market principlesAs of Saturday Chinas daily output of masks including surgical masks and medical N95 masks was 116 million units or 12 times the output at the start of February the countrys top economic planning agency said on MondayThe increase in supply has allowed the country to channel some of the products to South Korea and Japan but Li said the capacity still might not be enough for Chinas 14 billion peopleThe World Health Organisation WHO also pointed to shortages elsewhere saying the world needed 89 million medical masks 76 million examination gloves and 16 million goggles each month for health workersWHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said a shortage of protective equipment was leaving doctors nurses and other frontline health workers dangerously illequipped|0 Holy fuck|0 I just bought a month of nonparishables of the same stuff I always buy and it feels good man Im gonna go get some more food tomorrow and I also ordered a lifestraw on Amazon because I need it for my camping gear anyways|1 The doctors on rmedicine are all afraid they will get sick|0 patients who were mildly ill and who did not seek medical attention were not included in our studyI do kinda wonder how much weight that should be given though It seems like this study captured a lot of the patients with pretty mild symptoms ie the people with no fever I wonder how much they really believe this and how much its a boilerplate disclaimer some reviewer made them put in|1 Stupid UKs stupid herd immunity strategy looking a little stupid I like this better|0 Yeah let say I middlehigh class get injured I may get charged 1000 USD but the lady next to me that got injured the same way that I am is middlelow class so she only gets charged 700 I think our healthcare is one of the things we can be proud of|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thats good to know you can walk in and see your doctor right away Im living in Houston TX The medical complex here is one of the largest in the US However I had to make appointment at least 2 weeks before seeing my doc Some times it took a month and a half Its a major hospital in the city though|1 I mean yes They could have stopped in from reaching this point|1 We dont know if it was from the virus or the new medications or what the prevalence among the infected will be|0 NYT first mistake was to trust a Chinese source|1 That confusion is intentional by the MSM governmentPay attention to what they do vs what they say|0 Do you not pay attention to the news or just cherrypick what you likeThis shit was announced yesterday Labour voters for you|0 There is absolutely no evidence that any of these patients required significant care In fact the article states them as having required minimal medical treatment That means they were isolated and observed|1 No body is suggesting we should test healthy people Just the ones with symptoms and are negative for flu|0 Id like to add that they arent testing in my swfl county either My grandparents are in their 90s and Im regularly at the house doing things Went to see if I could get tested not showing any signs was told nope no signs no test Sad|1 covid19 is not the name of the virus covid19 is a disease you get from novel coronavirus|1 A very good point People always forget the political consequences of this sort of unrest The ancient world was made and remade like a toddler with an etchasketch|1 It doesnt truly disappear does it It just gets substantially less contagious and therefore less prevalent|0 How much of that is simply not having N big enough to derive a proper rate At the beginning most of the infected population that have ever been infected are newly infected and the ones that will die but havent died yet make up a bigger portion of N As the virus goes on exponentially the true rate is even less apparent It seems like well only know after this is all over and it has ran its course globally|1 Trump would likely survive He would receive medical care that the entire world can only dream about|1 Ye I agree that seems reasonable but until we know for sure we cant rally assume it And the only way of knowing for sure is mass testing South Korea does that and their mortality rate is insanely low Germany sort of does it and also low We test less per capita than Romania Czechia or Poland so we know nothing |1 Mayne not UK has had about 7000 tests and very few victims as yet only 9 inside the UK and USA did act fairly quick on flights from China|0 Every time I look into it I realize that despite the health care cost being lower it would be very difficult to get an equivalent income for the cost of living Im not even thinking Toronto or Vancouver I usually look at Calgary or Edmonton or something Every so often I think about it though most recently when I was really concerned my wifes green card was going to be denied|0 Travel to the South should be safer due to its natively hot and humid weather that makes it a little more difficult for the virus to spread but make no mistake the nCoV can sustain there Be cautious on the air plane with masks and hand sanitizer Enjoy your trip to Phu Quoc Its an amazing island with sun shines and sand beaches|1 Please no more new coronavirus subs Lets keep the positive info where people already congregate to get the message to as many people as possible We all need good news and its nice when its right there for all to openly see What about a daily sticky post of good news in this sub |1 Do I get a bumper sticker I mined for corona youre welcome|1 NIAID spokesperson who reports to Dr Fauci 100 denied this fake news article This fake report is people playing politics with people livesThis is not true said a NIAID spokesperson of the report in an emailed statement to Business Insider Fauci has led the institute a federal agency focused on researching infectious diseases since 1984 and he has a key role in coordinating efforts on global health issues according to the agencys websiteDr Faucis is literally an Einstein like figure in this field I know people like to knock Reagan for his response to HIV but he appointed Dr Fauci to NIAID in 1984 Dr Fauci has served in this position under multiple different administrations under both parties because this is not something that should be politicized But hey orange man bad|0 If they work for the Federal Government why is this surprising I work for NASA I cant go to the press and speak for NASA on the Orion program I need approval from the PAO public affairs office|1 Its the cases that are listed as severe that we need to watch thats the number that health care systems need to keep up with If that number exceeds their ability those numbers quickly become casualties|1 She reminds me of an excited school child who cant keep a secret|1 Youre lucky that your post wasnt deleted The mods here are so shitty when it comes to celebrities Sometimes they remove it and claim they dont want threads about celebrities they did it yesterday with me but then they suddenly okay with it again|1 All the people in the comment section being totally ignorant of the measures China has taken is amusing to see|1 Mushrooms shovelling shit etc Dont worry the upper classes are in control just do as you are told Mind you the country is full of morons as is proved by the fact that this lot got elected|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Im pretty sure they will get pressured into canceling now lol All it takes is one league to pull the plug and the rest will follow|1 Considering the trade that goes between NK and China Id be worried if it spread there the tri border between russia china and north korea actually experiences a ton of trade|0 Thanks for this Where are the time series statistics by province I havent found them anywhere I see total time series and point in time province level never time series by province|1 And even if theyre that shortsighted just the flu is no walk in the park Ive had it twice in the last 10 years and both times I figured If I die oh well Better than this bullshit|0 congratulations to the scums of america who voted for such corruption and incompetencewell done|1 rather than make a new post I figured if share what has helped me if your caffeine intake is high that will increase anxiety consider tapering off caffeine for a little while I promise itll help with anxiety|1 A few cases wouldnt cause that a 1000 sure|1 Wait Im confused on this Does that mean the CDC itself handles testing If so at what point would that happen Are the numbers released|0 The more countrys are infected the harder it will be for China to defend its numbers Thats the one and only silver lining At one point governments are going to get pissed of by always being compared to the figures of China that they will spill the beansThey arent right now because of politics etc|0 Markets are really gonna tank if hundreds of thousands of people drop dead|0 Different cohort of people infected People in china relatively fully randomized cohort People outside of china world travelers being very closely monitored Very different and nonrandom sample|0 I dont know how widespread it is but Ive read that the Chinese thinkthought it is fine for children to go to the bathroom anywhere including on the floor in the middle of stores There was something a few years ago where Chinese parents let their kid poop on the floor of a plane during international flight I dont know if these are rural people are not but China knows its not right and has been trying to teach people not to do that in other countries I dont know how normal it is for the average Chinese traveler wealthier people but it seems like the majority would not or at least dont do it|1 Making billions in net income doesnt mean anything without also stating revenue Delta one of the more profitable airlines had 47 billion in revenue last year but only 4 billion in net income Thats less than 10 percent margin In comparison to their expenses theyre really not making much money|1 The fact that they thought that this was worthwhile to publish right now shows how intellectually bankrupt we have become|1 Theres Nothing to Worry Abouthttpsyoutube7Ql5Op47Kog|1 My friends are all succumbing to this joking and laughing about how were just being fear mongered like with ebola and swine flu I try to explain to them that neither of those things caused entire countries and economies to shut down but it goes through one ear and out the otherI pray its just one big overreaction I want to be wrong about this|0 He says this and then I still hear people yelling about MEDIA HYPE and theyre just trying to scare us Where is the hype Ive seen none|0 Stereotypically Italians are a very demonstrative people who maintain closer personal space and make more frequent physical contact than for example British peopleWould this make a difference to the R0 number in the absence of other factors Has anyone ever done any studies in this area|1 Eggs are great for kids to learn how to use the stove Pancakes too Teaches them how to flip and how to look at food for signs its done|1 Listen guys weve all been there Youre home sick you start feeling a little better because the medicine is kicking in and youve eaten nothing but soup and ice cream for a week You just really want something weird like 4 tacos or a double cheeseburger or something So maybe you go to a drive through and get back home Maybe you even went in so you could drink like 4 refills of a fountain drink I get that But WHO THE FUCK DECIDES TO GO ON A SKI TRIP WHILE THEY HAVE THE GODDAMN FLU|0 Seriously This is how a statesman and a leader should act I dont agree with him on a lot of issues but he was ready to protect his constituents from the beginning|1 Appreciate it|1 I do check dimensions for things like tables but I once ordered a small wastebasket for my bathroom like about this sizehttpsimgurcomqpTmLmujpg judging by the picture I saw at the time not concerned about precise measurements just ballpark and this is a lot closer to what I gothttpsimgurcomUdlp0jJjpgAlso a few days ago a guy posted that he bought a cat tower online which turned out to be much smaller than he thought but his darling cat still pretended to enjoy ithttpsimgurcomDm2khUBjpg|1 I cant believe people actually believe he hasnt been tested since he was in contact with that Brazillian dude Can you imagine if he falls ill from the virus and they try to hide it|0 Yes why so much pondering|1 Tell that to the perfectly healthy 20 and 30 year olds who straight up died|1 Fuck yeah dude in Colorado we got giant steel gates at interstate entrances that we drop when the wind isnt safe to drive through Drop them suckers and put some guards in PPE up Id vote for that do we vote for that Whatever do it|0 I just giggled and woke up my sleeping partner Take my upvote|1 Theyve long taken care of that You notice how long the media waited before beginning any serious reporting on this this previous Monday Its because big players had their hedges in place The media did its job well|1 Pretty hard to do How would you know you got it anyway With a test Good luck finding one And you cant really pinpoint the moment youre contagious or the moment youre cured|1 Would some thing like a Soviet GP5 gas mask work too It uses a charcoal filter|1 Im a young relative healthy dude so Im not overly concerned about my OWN health but on the off chance I do get the virus I absolutely do NOT want to have a hand in spreading this shit to those who cannot afford to contract it I dont want to inadvertently pass this shit to other more susceptible peopleSo that being said Is it irresponsible for me to go through with long standing vacation plans involving flights next week I just dont know what to do Im not sure where to draw the line between being overly cautious and still living mylife|0 I am so glad to hear that And a bit afraid of the calculations of how many people could have been saved with an earlier lockdownStill better late than never Now lets convince our Dutch and Swedish British neighbours to do the same|1 Related question Even if quarantining hasnt stopped the spread and perhaps doesnt lessen the final numbers Isnt slowing the spread down helping us on other continents to be better prepared in our health systems government protocols and even personal awareness I am thinking that the less overwhelmed we are the better care those who do get sick will receiveI do feel terrible for those who couldnt escape before they were infected|1 If it sweeps through slowly there will be less pressure on the medical system Thats the whole point|0 The move from no testing to extra testing|0 Ontario dentists have been told to cancel all nonemergency procedures FWIWhttpswwwrcdsoorgencarcdsomembersdispatchmagazinearticles5286httpswwwrcdsoorgencarcdsomembersdispatchmagazinearticles5286|0 Can we trust any data controlled by the CCP|1 Can people stop talking about fatality rate Its meaningless right now|0 Thank you for your hard workThis is easy to use and read and is nicely organizedKudosAwarding you poor persons gold|1 Yes it was uncomfortably close but not 5050 I care Many people do Its hard to reach the other half People are very secure in their opinions Logic facts evidence reason and even their own well being do little to influence them its hard to argue with irrationality and arguments made from emotion Many of us try nonetheless Sometimes you make a point and they understand others they stick their head in the sand A silver lining to this terrible situation may be some people coming up out of the ground for air|0 Wait wait4 ppl is widespread transmissionYoure stoking fear op I believe in the seriousness of the situation as Im sure you do but going off the deep end isnt helping anyone|0 I thought they said its just a flu no LOL|0 If I recall correctly from the bill the Dems had created on Thursday it was companies with over 50 employees And the government was going to pay it backI work for a huge company Fortune 500 thats still acting like its no big deal Totally ridiculous|1 The reaction to the Xbox One launch is probably a big reason why they havent sooner People might be more ready for it now though|1 Oh yeah hell increase his show where his guests eat hot wings cough and leak mucuses all out their faces|0 i think they would rather die|0 Contract work is scary I dont think they get any protections which were not in the aggreement|0 We know that isnt true|0 I demand you get more credit for this comment|1 Thought your comment was sarcastic but thats actually pretty smart given the context that theyre limiting the amount of people in the storeIm kind of surprised that curbside pickup isnt being utilized though Have the same group of employees already touching the groceries just deliver them to your car I already do that from a grocery store here in the US have for a while I genuinely hate grocery shopping That seems even better rather than having a bunch of strangers randomly touching items Unless you have to shop in gloves or something|1 That was not my prediction That is what would have happened or could still happen if a shut down period lasts a month then life resumed as normal Please actually read the three models purposed in this thread Best model is tens of thousands but that would require suppression for two months distancing for a month suppression for two months repeatAmerica would never do that unfortunately It would be the only way to not fill every hospital bed in America and have respirators for all Our current actions are not heading that route|1 A balance could be struck Ive set up a Google Classroom with my Alevel students so that they can study from home Im sure your school has a similar platform and most teachers wont mind being contacted if youre selfisolating Keep positive and keep going Hope your Alevels are a success|1 Does that mean it is worse than the flu this year |0 Everyday something new we get which is really worst for us|0 Thank you |1 Not sure why youre being downvoted SK is doing a whole lot better than any western country right now|1 She meant more people have been killed in 2020 in the usa than has been killed by the flu than the corona virus To show you how little danger you are truly in|0 How many fucking bailouts do we need before we learn These companies already pay jack shit in taxes and they still need to be bailed out|0 it will still spread the Spanish Flu spread from a base in Kansas to all around the world during 1918 we have cars trucks planes trains etc now|0 He never fucking said the disease itself is a hoax He said the Democrats coverage of it is a hoax For a sub that says its here to stop fear mongering you all seem to thrive on it Thats all this sub is a bunch of doomers scared for their lives and wanting to scare everyone else|0 I would generally disagree with you even if I agreed with the premise of your argument that our government is preparingBut theres this from three weeks ago httpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponsefbclidIwAR1JiD6ltdB9COqrGkWKORRByslT5SgynU1DCn5b37OK6SfkRMnA6l0NcPlus that tweet today from Ken Cuccinelli deputy director of Homeland security today about not being able to find the Johns Hopkins mapIm starting to believe that the right people were removed from their posts and the people that are left are waiting around for leadership thats not leadingIm worried that our governments preparations consist of crossing our fingers and hoping that it really will go away in April when the weather gets warm Because the president said it would|1 Tolerance Environmental impact Income equality Democracy|1 While I want to believe you what is giving you that impression from these numbers I assume the growing distance between recovered and dead right EDIT But yes I am remaining optimistic and vigilant as well solidarity is how we can overcome this stressful situation A good global health scare is a great way to show people we should all be on the same side|1 If this hypothesis is true I wonder if intentionally infecting adults with OC43 could make them more resistant to SARSCoV2 rather than wait 18 months or so for a COVID19 specific vaccine|1 I understand what you mean but you got my meaning mixed up What I was trying to express was that for most of my fellow students shifting all of the tests to summer months and all of the special classes lab fe means increased amount of stress and a lot of uncertainty regarding how we will do it and when I never said the rest be damned I am also concerned If not for me then for my parents and grandparents I just wish there would be a way where we could not lose multiple months or weeks so dont twist my words and interpret them to your liking please We can all just hope for the best and thats all there is to it|1 Why would closing borders to high risk areas destroy the economy more than having a slower spread would save Also many countries export turists Their economy would save money by closing down tourism routes |1 I agree with you that theyre there to disinfect and distribute food at the moment However the lesson learned from the Lombardy lockdown in Italy is that you dont tell the public what youre going to do because theyll just take flight and infect other Right now all the piece are in place for a quick and efficient lockdown|1 You submit your degree to the FDA for approval before use|1 I would not be surprised if they were both taking stimulants and doing other things that sacrificed their own health to care for the public Any sort of time spent on self care is time you could have spent on patients No time to eat healthy food just scarf down whatever protein bar or crap they still have at the cafeteria No time to sleep the hospital is overloaded and more patients are coming in|1 Get Chris Treetrunk Biceps Redfield into Wuhan hed punch the virus to death |0 Pence did go after all sorts of reproductive rights here in Indiana google periods for Pence However those things had little or nothing to do with the HIV spread here in Indiana We have a heroin epidemic here for the past few years last summer alone I lost 2 friends within weeks of each other from fentanyltainted heroin and I had no idea either was using heroin and both apparently got on heroin after getting addicted to pain pills|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 Chinese lies arent statistics We should stop reporting WHOCCP numbers as legitimate Im sorry to go against the grain of institutionalist sycophants but it is not right to pretend China is containing the virus Its fun I guess for a good portion of people in this sub to shit on people who are skeptics of official statistics Illinois at least shares PUI The US has yet to do so nationally nor most statesThe CDC is being denied entry to China The NIH refers us to the CDC The ECDC is no better The WHO sucks Chinas dick Where the fuck am I supposed to search for real statistics Tencent|0 Well fuck|0 Sounds a bit like Singapore right Many infected but almost all of them abroad Looks like spreading were much harder there If it stays the same for Hawaii it may suggest the theory is right|1 Our government here is trying its best to contain the outbreak Once the flights leaves Italy though its up to the US to contain people coming from the infected zones We cant do anything if people dont get checked in there|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 We need to democratize and scale the testing system by having a CDC website that people go to and enter their situation Priority situations should get tested within 24 hours This is very possible since many countries have done it Health care workers for example should have priority Elderly people should have priority We will be able to catch up on the testing demand within a few weeks of getting the system in place Without the system we dont know what is missing swabs reagents etc|1 Thats good news Spring is coming|1 If there is that will be the plan Thanks|1 Nobody never touches their face No matter how hard they try You dont even realize youre doing it most of the timeTrying to actively lower the amount of times you touch your face is important but dont rely on it as your only protection Washing your hands often and touching potentially contaminated surfaces as little as possible is also important|1 Cost me 900 cause the ambulance was out of network Fuck me right|0 Was waiting for someone to point this out surprised Greta hasnt jumped on it|1 When is it enough to show that this is different Seriously its only been not even 3 months since discovery and its already around the world causing a lot of suffering Unless that semi cure is confirmed like the other article in this sub then were facing some kind of plaguedepression|0 are you stockpiled for food can you get food easily or are the stores closed or even empty shelves|1 Shit hits the fan a prepping term|0 Believe me we also wish we were wrongx200BSincerelyA Crazy One|1 The number will keep increasing cause China can send 20000 doctors and sisters from other provinces within 2 days to epicenter Wuhan and the province Hubei but Italy can not expect any help from outside it will be a tragedy|0 Yeah I used to go maybe twice a week Ive started getting deliveries ever 2 weeks ish now because it costs 20 to deliver no matter how much I get So Im buying way more at a time and especially because Im no longer eatingdrinking out at all|0 You are going to see widespread disruption to daily life Do not believe the false reassuranceCases are about to surge|0 Uhh wait How long did it take to write these How are there so many I kinda thought this thing was pretty new|1 But its had 20 returns the past 3 years If you played the market right 30 The only idiots left are those that sold the market when trump took office|1 This is measuring distances to County lines right Not any more fine grained than that|0 a little tiger penis should clear that right up|1 I bought a bunch of cheap high risk calls in December they all panned out I dont have puts on any vaccines yet but would imagine a lot of these places are pumping smoke and will crash when they cant produce results|0 I did in fact take a statistical mechanics class in college and I find the analogy to be nonsensical If you understand some basics of physics too then please explain how it is at all applicable|1 Really sad Heard it yesterday by a friend of mine from China She said she already heard lots of sad stories|0 Aaaah nooooThat sounds so awful are you okay now after all that at least|0 That place is a conspiratards dumpster fire I was just there I seen some SHIT|0 So with a 6000000000 yearly budget the CDC hasnt even stocked up on one of the most BASIC things to provide to health workers for use in an outbreak Ok government|1 It could also be optics There could be far more cases and want to hide as they may have fucked up Allowing massive 25000 conference during a world pandemic is it retarded hubris Since it was then when everything started going south|0 Unfortunately many people havent grown out of this|0 No new deaths are counted in this update I heard on BBC News that there was a death in Wales which isnt in this update|0 Ya I think the paper said about 5 do but I feel you on the your points We just gotta hope it doesnt actually have that capability to do that|1 The word pandemic and the pandemic bonds story is really odd Google it if you have not seen it That worries me|0 What matters is that real world studies prove that masks work and work very well Most probably the majority of transmissions are by large 10 micron droplets that even common surgical masks can stop|1 I can see that as well its quiet interesting I have always thought of Norway and Denmark as more evolved but Im biased because they are close to cannabis decriminalization And Sweden well zero tolerance for weed here but if you have corona send your kids to school dont leave home|1 Same here Those PAPR hoods are something Id never thought Id have to wear And there are so few at my hospital that they said we might have to share with another staff member Its sad that we might not even have enough PPE to protect ourselves|1 Just panic purchased a fish finder getting a Japanese mattress next then Im good for the year|0 Nah you gotta upgrade to copper or silver foil to defeat coronachan|0 Planning prepping and running carefully crafted media control strategizing maximum profit outlooks and hypothetical lossbenefit models|1 I solved it he must have been sick so all that shit he was coughing out got around his hands and body stewardess serves him stuff touches stuff he touched and then they served food to others transmitting the virus|0 Thats actually really cool|1 Dude this makes no sense people have screwed up priorities too the point they no longer have any survival instincts Seriously its better to have people not think your weird instead of getting infected or worse dying |0 Better than Martial Law let me tell ya|1 Coronavirus has been found in feces and when one flushes the toilet aerosolized feces are shoot into the air Coronavirus in aerosols can survive up to 3 hours in air If families or housemates share a bathroom that would be terrible In some other cases the house might not have separate ventilation for each room and it is too cold to open the windows Thats why isolation rooms in hospitals have ventilation systems with negative air pressure to prevent air sharing between roomsAlso if someone is in selfquarantine and has a fever or cold it is hard for families not to take care of them and be in close contactThats all Ive seenknown from stories in China If you have mild symptoms and dont get tested chances are you will spread it to families or housemates Testing mild cases will probably a make people take isolation more seriously or b people will act early if symptoms worsen|0 At least It seems quite likely that we will easily lose 1 of the total population|0 Apparently For WHO to declare pandemic means surrendering Right now the director general is like over my dead body|0 How can the UK do that In Vietnam they test you for free and if you are positive hospitasation is also free they dont need to even look at your passport for that as its universal for everyone Why the UK would deny and restrict to who they do the test to and receive treatment|1 httpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyILINethttpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyILINet So ILI activity is high but below what we saw in 20172018 and is currently declining If there has been cryptic transmission in the USA for 6 weeks things get interesting as youd expect this number to be off the scale by now or at least shortly I guess well see|1 You can get off a plan in Haiti and they are testing and taking temperatures Why isnt that happening in the greatest country in the world|1 Yeah but thats small potatoes compared to a legit face mask purchase|1 Living in Europe this is a kind of childish question We solved it|0 Me too lol|1 No harm done Its a rough time I am feeling jaded as well and yes we WILL pay for it And I am already so sorry for all the people who WILL lose loved ones because of the unnecessary and almost criminal delayBut I think one of the things to do is to talk LOUDLY to our local elected officials cuz theres little help at the Fed level at this time Ive sent an email to my Governor every day asking questions and asking them to immediately adopt the measure already taken by Ohio to contain what is already here Wrote to my Senators and Reps about implementing a temporary universal payment to citizens I am home without work and without an organized path forward and hell yeah Im gonna get respectfully loud|0 15 out of 21 people in a tour group from Iowa got it from a 4 night Egyptian Nile cruise so far Presumably spread it with each other too during their travel back to IowaMy parents were in a 2nd group that went to Egypt but got pulled back after 4 days in Egypt 2 travel days no cruise for them The tour guide from the first group that was on the cruise was also the tour guide for my parents group and tested positive on Thursday|1 Well there goes that fake news narrative httpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200313rochegetsclearanceforcoronavirustestthats10timesfasterutmcampaignnewsutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 Both postponed now Also the 5K in Cottleville|0 Galaxy brain is clearly not testing for the virus|1 Independence and freedom you cant have one without the other|1 This kills the boat|0 Its like a golden shower in this thread|1 No Most likely PT OT a doctor an agency nurse or CNA or a hospice workers Or a mobile xray service or a visiting phlebotomist Or a hairdresser The list of professions that travel between Ltc facilities is enormous|0 UC Davis is Yolo County not Sacramento County Not that that matters muchEdit Im an idiot I didnt realize the medical center is actually in Sacramento not in Davis|0 Can you reverse Uno a dropout I imagine the DNC would rather resurrect someone like Warren or Klobuchar than see Gabbard take it by default|1 The virus is not particularly deadly After reading the panic in this subreddit youd think everyone who gets infected will turn into a zombie and die|0 I can understand their decision to go the action route since thats a safer way to bring in the big bucks but the result was a movie that is vastly inferior to the book|0 True not everything is known but they are still the best info we got Its people who are constantly studying this virus or its people who only know the basics about the virus|1 You wanna have a fever just not too much Go easy on the antipyretics|1 Ok Cleveland|1 Its one family that has kids in a few schools A sad situation for everyone They followed instructions throughout|0 Yeah and what happens to hospitals when a sizeable chunk of the populace needs hospitalization at the same timeNothing good|1 Its way too late now weve done absolutely nothing as a country to stop this|0 Dairy Queen free cone day got cancelled|1 Same I dont even bother telling people The libs think Im crazy becuae its not in the news until a week ago The trumpers think Im crazy because its a hoax Frankly I dont give a fuck Maybe rent will go down in a year|0 im home sick resting and avoiding public I will not get tested until I absolutely need to I dont want to take a test if someone else needs it more than I doim sure a majority of those in that line are not sick enough or even sick at all They are putting themselves and public at a higher risk Shortages will happen because people are hypochondriacs attention seekers and assholes|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Calm down there nurse Robespierre|1 if you dont speak of it it wont happenOr if you dont speak of itperhaps people wont notice that their god evidently has limited skills or a limited interest in protecting themIdkweirdTheyre behaving with reckless indifference to other peoples health so weird is almost certainly the kindest way to frame that|0 I might agree for daily wear to work etc but my 15 minute trip to the grocery store is not going to wear out a mask each trip The danger is that how I handle the mask in taking it off or putting it back on would expose me to virus|0 She pretends to be a girl but she is actually an evil|0 Sure but these are the same companies which scream bloody murder whenever the spectre of minimal tax increase for public services comesFuck them for that this is a pittance by comparison|0 I dont trust corporationsPrice hikes for everyone after the virus |0 Good on you for being prepared Seems like the West is in a sorry state as far as PPE goes |1 I mean compared to other g7 countries Id say were fairing the best Give Trudeau some credit|1 Im stuck in Portland until at least June unless a company would help me break my lease Its phenomenally expensive|1 Having a consistent message means muzzling silencing censoring what ever other hyperbole has been used to describe itYou guys need to decide which one you want and then stop whining that youre getting it|0 The market is the least of whats to come I know so many ppl in large cities with 500700k mortgages Unemployment will take off and your going to see housing collapse all over the world This is going to be a truly vicious recession and I hope that it helps each country change the way our system works This was literally a bubble created by low rates bad fed policy speculation and greed|0 It is more than airborne if you listen to the experts reporting in other countries Its what is called Aerosol so it through a cough or sneeze it goes out into the air and is said can be reached 1030 ft away Im no expert but listening to that multiple times by govt health officials makes me think twice Im mostly going to wear the mask if Im in a crowded place like a grocery store or Costco or something People are already wearing masks in Costco|1 Clear your cookies|1 Poor pets Is there anyone there trying to help the ones who were necessarily abandoned|0 Welcome to the state of US healthcare Most people will continue to go to work even if they are sick with this thing than have to potentially loose out on weeks of pay AND have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for treatment|0 Maybe babies have yet to be exposed in large numbers because in general parents keep babies home more for this very reason to limit exposure to viruses|0 Well it is exactly what those companies claim and yes it takes 2years from there But we have to start somewhere|1 I know this lung stuff is TERRIBLE but I anyone else received this s isnt a stomach flu That is just the worst|0 I think they mean that on a scale from 0 to 100 where 100 is certain death like The Black Death for the majority this virus is down around 13Its not that people dont care about the minority sick or elderly its that they are speaking of everyone not just the minority which only becomes important when you find yourself in that group|0 People were also actively calling for a quarantine long before the government acted on it in fact the provincial CCP officials were flamed for not doing something sooner Plus theres some intangible cultural factors that make people more willing to cooperate in sucb situations|1 Shaving is gonna suck ass My hair grows way too fast for this bullshit|0 Thats not true Having lived in China for years I can tell you that issues such as these are rarely enforced In China people dont fear the police or govt in the way that most people think they do|1 Its definitely plausible there were similar things with SARS and blood type variation is literally a variation in the immune system so its not like theyre seemingly unrelated|1 You will still owe those bills These banks and corporations dont give a damn about you Hell they will probably find ways to make money off this People are in for a rude awakening if they think the govt is going to be here to help When has the govt ever helped the common man All they do is bailout airlines corporations and banks CEOS still get hundreds of millions in a parachute when their company loses it all and employees are left with nothing The people making these policies dont live in our world and dont care about our consequences They will issue the quarantine and that is it We will fend for ourselves the whole time|0 Someone can always find a reason to complain How about dont watch if you dont like the price|0 I cant read Italian did he actually say that If so hes not just wrong hes also stupid|0 Wheeee socialismBecause it worked so well the last 1000 fuking times|0 Use common sense If your child gets infected make sure you check out his or her temperature at least twice a day morning and evening Make sure your kid stays in room you could let your kid watch movies all day or play video games Bring your kid foodEveryone else in the house should make sure to have as little contact with the infected child as possible Wash your hands every time you can dont touch your face and dont use the same bathroom Wash your toilet every time the kid poops and disinfect door handles and your sink and everything else he or she touches Ideally the infected should stay in one room all the time occasionally using bathrooms Food should be brought to himher Also wearing a facial mask infected makes the surface infection less likelyThis has to continue for weeks and its very likely your kid is okey in less than a week Make sure you monitor your kids health If the fever gets too high andor the kid has trouble breathing contact local healthcare officials|0 wouldnt this constitute a violation of the first amendment|1 This is so wonderful As there may be some horrible people in the world there are still some beautiful people|1 I have a coworker who has a its just the flu attitude going to Spring Break in Florida next weekend Ive been telling him not to go but he just rolls his eyes at me|0 Seems like a pretty sensible move by any country at the early stages of a new outbreak|1 Its ok I have WiFi|1 Heres the link to the original videohttpsmfacebookcomstoryphpstoryfbid2835498279881270id100002633771306 I do unfortunately believe the video is real too He posted it on his Facebook page where friends could see it with his real name I dont think someone would seriously fake their sisters death|0 You must be new here maybe you should read through everything that was going on a month and a half ago and then come back with an informed point of viewIts ahead of the CURVE not CURBIts here and spreading around for weeks and still where are the tests Thats a failure not a success The whole country is shutting downTaiwan was ahead of this so was Korea but we werent If we had tests weeks ago and quarantined people at the airports until they pass the test none of this shit would be happening Now its too lateSo strap in kid its going to be a long ride|0 no stress no fuss plenty of choice no queues dont panic prepare|0 I had the same thought The testing is no longer well targetedIt is therefore still a waiting game Good results though|1 This may be a stupid question but can a uk citizen leave the US after the travel ban is in effect One of my friends is in Tennessee currently|0 Ok doomer|1 These folks seem to be relying on this research to support the idea of water bottles made of copper But four hours still seems like a long time httpswwwcopperh2ocomblogsblogantibacterialwaterbottle|1 If you believed the administration when they said well have 1 mil tests by this week I have a bridge to sell you buddy No but in all seriousness you should probably stop spreading misinformation like wtf believing mike pence|0 34ths of the city are chineseThats like saying 96 of Taiwan is Chinese while technically true theyre not mainlandersUnless you are saying 75 of Singaporeans travelled to and from China during DecemberJanuary this is not really relevant|1 What is the best single piece of advice you can give to everyday people For example should we stock up and batten down the hatches Should we carry on like nothing is happening|1 Thank you for the comment and the link|1 Remember 2 Girls 1 Cup was weird porn and NOT an instruction video for how to have a romantic dinner with your sweetie in the current situation|1 What a very ignorant statement|0 I think that was because it could survive longer without a living host and because it was super unsanitary|1 Incubation period can be as high as 3 weeks article today I believe Also its more likely to be mild symptoms so the infected arent going to the hospital to be tested Meaning its spreading into new generations unnoticed until someone is sick enough to go to the hospital at which time they arent linked to any travelersquarantined and therefore not tested for the virus|0 Im a pretty liberal guy from Ohio too but man his leadership and proactivity is commendable I am proud of how this is being handled in our state|1 Back spray is the problem my friend|1 Dont believe that 500 case lie I bet Chinas actual death toll was in the millions|0 Omg he just held back a cough Not looking good Trump needs to get tested|0 They added 3000 suspected cases to todays numbers|0 Therefore simple ventilators can be used like the oxylog draeger the hardest bit to design is the solenoid valves to limit and cycle flow at constant pressureDoes the whole thing need to be 3D printed Couldnt it be designed to incorporate some offtheshelf solenoidshttpswwwgraingercomcategoryplumbingplumbingvalvessolenoidvalvesandcoilsairoilandwatersolenoidvalvesattrsMediaValves7CAirfiltersattrs|1 The leaders and media are not helping the situation eitherLulling people into a false sense of security by reciting longdebunked nonsense|0 This needs to be highermy god|1 Whats a pope to do Its kind of his job and he is well liked specifically because he is of the people Putting himself in a bubble doesnt seem his style Then again if he contracted himself or spread to otherscan you imagine what would happen to religious services everywhere|1 As you say its part of my job too Ive just been saying oh were not currently shaking hands here as a protective measure Literally everybody has been fine with it Sure sometimes we automatically shake and then say oops but that only happened a few times|1 I can buy used ones locally for 150 Theyre like used cars Tons of them available|1 Though maybe not as bad as in the USA where the response is a complete derpThat is an insult To derps Dude we are FUCKED We have a mentally retarded manchild charging a Christian fundamentalist with running the Coronavirus response I think were going to see a disaster unfold|0 Fresh food |1 I dont know I am not saying its fake just that it is really really weird All those half done measures giant quarantine in Italy but Switzerland tells Italians its ok to go to work to Switzerland even if they are quarantined Nothing makes sense|1 I imagine the average age on the cruise ship would skew the death rate though Much older than the general population|0 Super Fluesday|1 Xi is scared shitless of a mob knocking down his door|0 Two questions does getting the less aggressive strain make you more resistant to the more aggressive strain like with cowpoxsmallpox or are they different enough that you could catch both of them Second is this why in some areas eg Iran the virus has been completely devastating while in other areas its been more mild Or is that purely a consequence of medical infrastructure|0 Hes not been quiet about it You could just google it and see he made an ass of himself at least twice this week on the topic|0 Not much we can doStock up Prepare Try to convince family to actually take this seriously Instead of going to a cinema stay at home and watch a movie on Netflix Know how to wash your hands avoid touching your face etc|0 Im guessing you thanked your neighbor that is really kind of them You should try tracking them down and thanking them again|1 Same here Ive very rarely come across a paper I couldnt access through my universityI did have a difficult time in the past when I worked for small organizations like nonprofits or city governments that couldnt afford subscriptions Until this thread I actually hadnt heard of Scihub so I imagine there are both average people and scientists out there that might want access to articles and not be aware of how to obtain them|1 I like how his disgust for all the media and political talk shows is actually palpable and he only wants to go back into the lab|0 You guys are real heroes and deserve bonuses for going to work each day in these challenging conditions making sure the rest of us can get food|1 I grocery shopped on Tuesday before everything went down so havent needed to find any I think Home Depot Menards Staples Office Depot and Lowes are often forgotten about and may have someEdit Check Home Depots website for toilet paper Limited stock is showing at most stores CVScom also shows inventory at some stores|0 Also think of the positive impacts this will have on the environment Less traffic less smog less gas reliance|1 And they will Have a look at the visual about 3 pages into the new comments shows a fairly consistent infection growth outside of ChinaThe difference being our governments wont act as severely and our citizen wont be as willing to acquiesce|1 No The other countries are doing it straight away how the fuck can you say theyre doing it as slowly as possible Explain|0 Yeah not only that But some people are just lightly being asked to self isolate Im sorry But you cant just trust people to never leave their homes Especially if they have no family or friends if someone has mild symptoms Theyll prob go out to get groceries or other essentials I just cant see everyone self isolating Also they send out a private notice to doctors in BC the other day telling them to prepare for a pandemic My sisters bf is a doctor He showed me That sounds like its prob going to get worse|0 Pretty cool but the billionaire owners of the team why arent they doing this instead of the players|1 the only good thing recently is gas is ONLY 319 USD per gallon in NorCal USA|1 Contrary to what American popular media may want you to think most of us actually are not living like Michael Landon in Little House On The Prairie|1 I got my scripts last week and did some stocking last week Went to a local store today Lines were ling waited 30 mins for self checkout and one person away I noticed machines were not processing debit and credit cards so people were having to get cash I leftJust got home from a different local store Shelves were low store was a mess certain things were sold out but I got a few things My debit worked and I got to my car and just felt totallyI dont know what this feeling is|1 I dont know if I agree China has shown that drastic measures are capable of stopping or at least dramatically slowing the virus The rugged individualism of the US I think will make it very difficult for us to do what is necessary to stop it but that doesnt mean we shouldnt try Im conflicted since Im fully loaded on puts betting against the economy but at the same time Id be willing to lose all that money if we can make it stop|0 New Jersey I live and work in Bergen County where the first positive case in the state was reported I work in a large library system with 77 connected libraries so we get people from all over We are now even more vigilant about disinfecting every morning|1 I hope so These people lack sympathy Im Not religious but this is karma in action|1 Shit even get SpaceX to make some If they can make tons of satellites why not ventilators|0 What a fucked up system|0 People dont really grasp big numbers well or understand data or know how to read graphs In generalFor example people will spout off well it only has a 3 mortality rate It is probably lower or higher but we have a ballpark numberOn top of that the deaths are skewed towards weak immune systems or older folks but lets just parse the actual dataWe have 327 million people in the United States lets go wild and say it spreads so rapidly and vastly that it hits 70 of the populationThats 228900000 people If the death rate is truly 3 thats 6867000 people deadSure this doesnt take into account real life factors in any way and is just dumb numbers but it does a good job of really showing what youre saying when you say well nothing matters everyone can get it 97 of us will live|1 httpswwwnihgovnewseventsnewsreleasesnihclinicaltrialremdesivirtreatcovid19beginsInitially investigators will compare participant outcomes on day 15 in both the remdesivir group and the placebo group to see if the investigational drug increased clinical benefit compared to placebo Outcomes are scored on a sevenpoint scale ranging from fully recovered to death Investigators will reevaluate this scale after reviewing data from the first 100 participantsAn independent data and safety monitoring board DSMB will monitor ongoing results to ensure patient wellbeing and safety as well as study integrity The DSMB will recommend the study be halted if there is clear and substantial evidence of a treatment difference between drug and placeboIf its clearly having an impact we may know in a week|1 Trump is going to be fuming over thisthe numbers will go up|0 No|0 Its okay guys less waste and more space on earth|0 The basic politic career of that guy is built based on screaming that the socialist government is lying But yeah for once that he trusted them|0 Giggled at this out loud|1 China has somewhat of a history of accidentally leaking viruses They accidentally leaked SARS twice while doing research some years back and they had to quickly contain those infected in those mishaps It is widely believed that China has a bioweapons program hence it is plausible that they accidentally leaked a possibly unfinished bioweapon|0 Yeah they gave the mortality rate wrong When the hospital system inevitably gets overwhelmed the rate could jump to at least 1 If so itll be a million dead|0 Home Depot was restricting them when I checked in store|0 One kiss is all it takes|1 GameStop saw the writing on the wall a few years back By their math the sales of physical games would be outpaced by digital sales in 2017 This started a big scramble to switch to hardware buybacks and tchotchkies because of the margins involved They gutted their previous generation stock in favor of Funko Pops and used iPhones They went so far as to purchase a computer retailer that bought used computers refurbished them and sold them for huge markups That company bought my company and laid me offWhat they missed is that its actually their business practices that put people off No one wants to go someplace where they are goaded into buying preorders paying membership fees and purchasing addons every single time they talk to an employee No one wants to go somewhere that buys something from you for five bucks and resells it for fifty More than that even if they hadnt put me out of a job I simply cannot engage with another GameStop employee who is on the verge of a breakdown from not hitting their numbers GameStop slowly absorbed all the video game chains of my youth Thanks to them we no longer have EB Games Funcoland or Walden They ate it all up and now that theres nothing else they can eat shitKudos to the future indie game stores that will rise to take their place|0 No Not even close If you have a respiratory ailment serious enough to require hospitalization it doesnt always leave you the person you once wereThis is going to clear away some of our societys disability burden yes but its going to generate a lot of newly disabled people We learned that with SARS 40 percent of them were unable to return to work 10 years laterThe net effect of COVID19 is going to increase not decrease healthcare burden Whether it increases cost and spending thats difficult to predict Medicareforall could fix the cost problem Were going to have a lot of sick people and quite a few will remain too sick to go back to their jobsMy guess is that 8 million people will be unable to return to work Thats not because theyll all be too sick to work but theyll be too sick to get hired which has the same effect Well end up supporting these people because no one in the corporate world wants to hire someone with panic disorder or PTSD|0 I never thought Singapores measures would work because they arent testing broadly enough from the community for unknown clustersHowever they have bought a lot of time and are prepared to do more This gives them an advantage Theyve also developed some excellent new technology to test track and treat betterEven highly infectious diseases take a little time to grow very big and they grow in clustersStill if I was Singapore Id definitely prepare for a city wide lockdown sooner rather than later Drone enforced Things are under control enough they can announce it a month in advance and everyone can prepareThe lockdown will totally cut off social contact and allow for the virus to completely be eradicated Some infected people might be infectious longer than a month but they can be isolated in a special part of the cityAfter the lockdown another month of twice weekly corona tests for all citizens Then once weekly Then monthly in perpetuity Those cheap 30 minute testsAfter the lockdown foreign visitors may need to quarantine though However if the testing technology is improved it could be a 5 days or shorter quarantineAs for the economy Singapore can be the world leader of tech development for virus response until things get betterOnly Singapore has the money will knowledge tech and political situation to do this|1 I kept mine home today and they are biking in the sunshine I do NOT want to send them back in tomorrow|1 CDC budget has increased each year under Trump|1 Yup I agree with you that the real CFR is probably around 1 Maybe a lot better as Koreas treatment guidelines now include either lopinavirritonavir or chloroquinehydroxychloroquine If either of these treatment regimes work well the CFR could plunge to a lot lower httpwwwkoreabiomedcomnewsarticleViewhtmlidxno7428httpwwwkoreabiomedcomnewsarticleViewhtmlidxno7428|1 china might be the safest place on earth after all|1 Could you show us a previous generation that was paying a shitload of taxes to sustain an older generation that hates them Could you further show an instance where the safety net the older generation is enjoying wont be available to the younger generation paying for it|1 We need to keep our school staff and their close contacts safe|1 This needs to be clearly explained more broadly on this sub|1 Were trying to catch up Thanks for noticing|1 Exactly This isnt news because its a new idea its news because of the person who said it And how bluntly he said it If frankly caught me by surprise|1 I commented because OP is clearly politically motivated Calling out the health minister is futile and he or she knows it But it does serve to politicize others which is something we all should be extremely wary about|1 actually dont If he feels he can save money perhaps he will cancel his order of ventilators|1 Why is South Korea experiencing an unprecedented spike in the COVID19 infection numberBecause the incubation period of covid19 is very long meaning that when the infection number started to spike that was only the results of the epidemic control measures of about 1420 days ago Despite the media and governmental attention on Shincheonji they have only been half of the problemI The alarm bells didnt work the containment measures were poorReuters has a very informative infographic sitehttpsgraphicsreuterscomCHINAHEALTHSOUTHKOREACLUSTERS0100B5G33SBindexhtml Basically the first untraceable community cases were patient 29 and 30 who were admitted to Seoul National Hospital on 16th Feb This means that patient 29 and 30 were infected at around the beginning of Feb Whether they are related to Shincheonji or not this should have been a warning alarm for the South Korea healthcare authorities but it unfortunately wasntPatient 31 was a member of Shincheonji She started to show symptoms sometime around Feb 10th meaning that like case 29 and 30 she was infected sometimes in end of Jan and beginning of Feb On the 15th doctors advised her to to test for coronavirus but she didnt listen went to several other places On the 17th she went to the hospital to test for covid19 and was tested positive She was subsequently assumed to be a super spreader and blamed to the subsequent rise of infected casesBut was she really a super spreader The epidemic didnt just suddenly come into existent in South Korea without at least 1 imported case getting through unchecked Right after patient 31 was discovered a score of people were subsequently discovered to be infected On the 19th the total number of people infected was 51 people On the 20th it was 104 people By that time the infection was widespread enough inside Daegu for a random military personnel with no known connection to Shincheonji visiting his home to catch it and go on infecting several others inside the military which should have been the reserve resources when the epidemic spread nationally but was in actuality compromised and deactivated early on These people werent infected the day before they were discovered They were infected sometime between 2 weeks ago at the beginning of Feb From then on the reported infected cases have started to climb on a very clearly exponential graph Despite the media attention it was very clearly that patient 31 was unlikely to be the cause of the infection for the people discovered on the 19th and 20th but they all were likely to be infected at around the same time at the end of Jan and beginning of Feb The disease has been silently transmitting among the populace for half a month the alarm bell of which should have been the discovery of patient 29 and 30 never mind patient 31 Unfortunately even when patient 31 started to show symptoms there was no action from the South Korean government and healthcare authorities to at the very least quarantine the suspected case from going all over the place In hindsight they were basically choosing the rights to be idiots of the Shincheonji cult over the health of 5300 and counting South Korean citizensFurthermore in the Reuters graphic you can see that there are at least 4 clusters in development Shincheonji Cheongdo Daenam Hospital Busan Onchun Church and others Cheongdo Daenam Hospital was also where the brother of the Shinchoeonji leader died and had a funeral from January 31 to February 2 and the brother died of you guessed it pneumonia To sum it up somebody died of pneumonia in the middle of an epidemic and no healthcare authorities moved to verify whether the dead had covid19 or not and allowed said funeral to last 3 days with several thousands visitors in a hospital with lots of patients in the mental ward and immunocompromised and old people a place where would be the most dangerous source of transmission if compromised Which it wasFurthermore even after Daegu and Gyeongsangbuk blew up as of Feb 25th 8 days after patient 31 tested positive and it became clear that Shincheonji was a part of the problem the South Korean government refused to restrict travel from Daegu and Gyeongsangbuk to other provinces and countries just because China did it so it must be bad and human rights violation I kid you not an excerpt from Washington Posthttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworldasiapacificinsouthkoreaaregionisstrickenwithcoronavirusbutnochinastylelockdownsplanned20200225a0e90bf057b811ea8efd0f904bdd8057storyhtmlWhen a spokesman for South Koreas ruling party suggested Tuesday that the government would be rolling out a maximum lockdown on the coronavirushit southern city of Daegu the backlash was immediate and the political retreat swiftHong Ihkpyo soon clarified that he didnt mean a Wuhanstyle lockdown or a blockade on travel into and out of the city along the lines that Chinas Communist Party has imposed on Wuhan and surrounding areas at the center of the covid19 outbreakPresident Moon Jaein soon chimed in There would be no regional blockade he said only a fullscale effort to contain the spread of the virusThe measures include tracing and testing potential carriers canceling large public gatherings and marshaling the countrys medical and financial resources with help from the police and the militaryBut as South Korea struggles to contain a rapid acceleration in coronavirus infections one thing is clear The kind of tactics imposed by the authoritarian regime in China are simply not on the menu in this compact democratic and politically outspoken countryOf South Koreas nearly 1000 confirmed cases of the disease named covid19 caused by the novel coronavirus 543 are in Daegu and another 248 in the neighboring province of North Gyeongsang with a major burst of cases linked to a megachurch All but one of the 11 deaths have taken place in the city or provinceSome kind of travel restriction on Daegu citizens might have been helpful to contain the virus but it was just out of the question said Choi Eunhwa a professor of medicine at Seoul National University and a member of an expert panel that met Moon on Monday The South Korean government cant afford to enforce that kind of restriction as it would spark a huge backlashYeah and as far as I know they still havent restricted travel from Daegu and Gyeongsangbuk as of now March 4th when the number of infected has surpassed 5300 the epidemic has spread to all South Korean provinces a hospital in Seoul became a new cluster of 14 reported confirmed cases after importing a case from Daegu while China is well on its way for recovery in part thanks to its strict travel restriction measures both inside the country and to other countriesAt the end of January China placed a travel restriction on Chinese nationals in China from going on tours to other countries On February 25th the South Korean government accused the Vietnamese government of quarantining 20 Korean nationals from Daegu to Vietnam without prior notice in the middle of a pandemic when the number of cases in South Korea was in the 800 The South Korean media subsequently labeling countries with special focus on Vietnam that have imposed travel restriction on travelers from South Korea Koreaphobic despite anyone with eyes can see that the epidemic was blowing up fast in South Korea and the South Korea government still hadnt restricted travel for its nationals within the country and to other countries In comparison despite Chinas initially putting pressure on countries that had put a travel ban on travelers from China Chinas response and travel ban of its citizens to other countries even if a bit late was downright charitableTo sum up part 1 The South Korean governments lack of containment measures when things start to go off the rail made the epidemic uncontainable now and the 4 alarm bells within 2 weeks didnt work|0 I love Walmart They have the best deals I cant get enough|1 Unfortunately no because I had a really crappy contact They screwed me over|0 Doesnt that use a special eye tracking sensor though|0 You clearly didnt look very hardthe patented nanosilver we have the Pentagon has come out and documented and Homeland Security has said this stuff kills the whole SARScorona family at point blank range Well of course it does it kills every virushttpswwwmediamattersorgcoronaviruscovid19alexjonestellinghisviewerstoothpastehesellskillscoronavirus|0 Trying to accurately work out the scale of the problem is a massive issue given how many countries including the US look like they are downplaying the impactIndonesia is of major concern for instance a huge population a big tourist location and it only has just announced its first cases|1 It just feels kind of futile that Im practicing all this hygiene and isolation and hes still hitting the bar and going to work|0 Also people who are sick and immunocompromised the elderly the huge amount of our country who lacks access to decent medical careFuck you and your Karma You sound like the preachers when AIDS hit The amount of casual ableism I see now disgusts me to no end|0 We got at least 9 in Australia and its hot as fuck here at the moment Bush fires are gonna go berserk this weekend due to temperatures Hopefully summer keeps it at bayEdit just confirmed another one 10 in total|0 when people said its going to spread outside China they were called doomers When people said we should take measures to prepare for such event they were called doomers when people said economic downturn will happen they were called doomers Yet last weeks doomer seems like this weeks science every fucking week here|1 America is gonna be fine and stronger than ever China is gonna sink in global power and some manufacturing will repatriate Tens of thousands of americans will die and people will have no idea This is life|0 they have always been a shit organizationOh really why is that exactly and whose fault is it and on what basis do you think Trump has any capacity to improve it He is someone who put the one medical professional in his cabinet in charge of HousingYou have TDS No thats his supporters|0 This is true and I agree that this news release is being interpreted a bit too dramatically at a literal level However I think the general concern is justified considering that this administration has a strong record of sacking senior officials who at a certain point feel the need to act on good conscience and publicly disagree with the Trump party line In other words I think the fear here is that senior officials overseeing the Coronavirus outbreak response would be hesitant to report their unfiltered expertise to the administration or public for fear of reprisal|1 True this|1 I am fucking sick of it People read some shit and think they are expertsIts on both sides of this issue there are people blowing it off and others spreading hysteria and false informationI know moderating this kind of topic must be difficult but get it together|0 I had pneumonia twice last year Both were different experiences with different symptoms and both were frightening First time I was on a business trip and woke up in my hotel room and was watching TV and then my apple watch started giving me high heart rate alerts was at 150 Went to the nearest ER and was preparing my self that I wasnt going to make it home Turns out it was pneumonia I didnt know accelerated heart rate was a symptom but the next day my hear rate was back to normal The 2nd time I was driving back from Vegas and almost passed out while I was driving I managed to get home and felt better the next day so I racked it up to fatigue and went to work The next night I woke up sweaty and freezing cold and had a fever Went to the doctor and my left lung was really bad|0 Wasnt as bad as we were expecting|1 There is a case in a North Eastern town at the moment and a relative has told me the entire hospital is closed off to outsiders I wouldnt be surprised if its already present on wards all over the country|0 I agree This seems to be what is going on|1 Hope the kids as well|1 It said The department cited patient privacy concerns and standard procedures for the changeI doubt it wont last long before its changed back|0 Compartmentalization has to happen at every level now we cant let any new vectors in while containing our own This is honestly self evident and I feel like we live in an upside down world|1 South Korea has seen a decline in the infection rate they are winning the war because they are limiting the peak Eventually most people will be infected it is inevitable however you win this by delaying the peak as long as possible to limit the impact on the healthcare system which leads to better outcomes for all|1 Mmmm yes absolutely wretched my dear boy|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Improvements in care With 100 respirators per 100000 ill I wouldnt expect them|1 And of course we all trust the Chinese statistics s|1 I mean can you imagine having to depend on whatever amount of food you have just for survival It would be nice to know that you can just buy whatever you need online but the way people are shopping right now makes it feel like you have to buy as much as possible RIGHT NOW before its too late and you cant find anything else Yep this has kicked my anxiety up a notch|1 Take care Sending love from Atlanta|1 Super useful awesome to see people putting stuff like this togetherOne slight request itd be cool if we could enter a location instead of doing it off browser location Checking up on family etc |1 Hilarious why such the reaction Glow worm|1 there goes her chance to attempt the longest living recorddamn virus|1 The government have an 80 majority the opposition cant do anything Start bloody blaming the right people We have an idiot in charge who refuses to listen to any opposition Even in his own bloody cabinet|0 Thanks for this I was just reading on your website about inflammation in bats but got a bit lost Can you explain a little bit more about how bats are able to coexist with so many viruses|0 My parents had planned on flying out to Seattle in a few weeks and said that as of now they havent called it off yet I give it 5 days max before they see in it the news enough and cancel|0 American who has lived in China for 10 years currently abroad for the Chinese New Year and will extend until things get betterI take your point but I think the spread of false information through social media is unprecedented with viruses of this kind and thats one of the biggest threats Im noticing when you search on google for Coronavirus one of the first websites to consistently show up in the search results is some website called CCN which is obviously completely fake or just horribly researched And how many millions of people are reading this website now Im of the opinion that the reaction everyone is having is completely overblown But im also aware that im not a researcherscientistdoctor so I can only take the advice of the professionals Lets not freak out with all the bad information floating around lets just stay safe and wash our hands|0 I hate Ford but Ontario has done a lot of testing at least I just wish our hospitals had any freaking capacity right now|0 For that to be true a growing number of disparate probable community spread reports Snohamish etc and analyses eg preprint paper with Diamond Princess 37 asymp would have to all be incorrectThe only controlled scientific study in these is the RTPCR threshold cycle study which found 1 in 40 a 25 rateEdit right here in SARSCoV2 Viral Load in Upper Respiratory Specimens of Infected Patientshttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001737 No randomized control group and n40 but better by miles than clinical anecdotes|1 i hope so as well TX here and also seems like no one cares|1 just checking in on post approval just wanna process w you all|1 Singapore isnt uncontrolled Singapore is being proactive considering they have an extremely porous northern border with atrisk countries The reason why the numbers for Singapore are high because theyre jumping in front of other countries to detect it as quickly as possible to nip any potential vulnerable vectors in the budSingapore is doing it the way other countries shouldve done it I am baffled as to why Japan isnt|1 Its odd how many people seem to be so unlucky out of only 1500 peopleAlmost like the numbers are total bullshit|0 They just want to make sure supplies are still available for medical personnel Just remember surgical mask is for confirm cases or carriers to prevent them spreading via airborne and the Mask you need is the one with the filter like N95|1 I think it is because of the state labs testing But the problem is that even those labs are not testing Here are the daily numbershttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovtestinginushtml|0 So West is at fault again China screwed up with their coverup and bribed WHO to praise it for combating the virus and keeping situation under control any call for saying Chinese may be dangerous and better to ban them from coming in was described as racist and hurting feelings of Chinese|0 Whod they kill Howd they hide it|0 nope not enough in itpeople will be left to die at home|0 Declarations open up options for funding and resources Smart Very smart|1 Seems like the United States is gonna dodge it so thats one reason But I think why we dont see it on news is because China did such a good suppressing the truth Where it is 1000x worse then they are letting on|1 Right The quote is Susannah Guthrie noted that Trump tweeted on Monday that the fake news media and the Democratic Party were working to inflame the coronavirus situation and asked Pence to address the people who arent afraid of coronavirus and think its just politics and hypeMike Pence said that Theres been some irresponsible rhetoricHes almost certainly thinking of the Democratic Party in this answer not the President|1 But I am just talking about myself as per my original statement|1 here CBSA OFFICER GOT INFECTED AT AIRPORT AND HERE THEY ARE ON SCHEDULEthis govt wont stop until they have thousands of fatalities|0 I wish this could be the chance for Italians to learn to trust new technologies more Better generalized internet access smart working digitalisation of the administration and online schooling could be instrumental to solve some longterm Italian problems It could also be the push we need towards holding our media more responsible about doing better scienceandfactbased reporting instead of having threequarters of the news being this politician said this and this politician said that soccerBut I am not holding my breathAt the very least it seems that it sunk in for many Italians how underfunded and underappreciated our health professionals are so theres that|1 Hey now Prayers are useless all by themselves You need thoughts too|0 Memphis is prepping for it too Im excited In person classes are exhausting for me but are mandatory in my major My grades will likely go up as I have one less stress|0 Yes in theory if every single person stayed home for 2130 days minus going to the hospital if needed it would stop steading entirely and die off But we wont as humans it almost impossible unless its forced somehow|0 Best days in the park in years Great windy weather and the place was empty|1 In Asia its very common to wear masks sure for pollution reasons too thats why you get the one with Carbon filter All government officials there have been telling you to wear masks partially because the cities are so dense However its not socially acceptable here in the West Guessing Government is too conservative|1 Hell yeah man|0 Good luck to themPoor people|1 You can kiss my ass for 119 a day Get closer to 350 a day before Id even consider thinking about it That 833 turns into 624 a week after taxes Fuck that noise Ill stay home for that shit|0 A virus does not discriminate based on nationality religion or politics What you stated is akin to being stuck on a sinking boat in which all the nations are placed and deciding that the responsibility of bailing out all the water is on China and China alone Were all on the boat|0 YARR MATEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAIL THE SEVEN ISPS|1 They should have at least evacuated the elderly and those with compromised immune systems|1 Northern Lights is the strain youre looking for|0 If we want to be fair we should have a set infection rate where we stop letting people in from that country Like 100 or more infected you cant come in from that country|0 virusoutbreakwtf news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 For what its worth Ill listen to Cuomo over Blasiolol at this point doing the obvious is a gift when it comes to politicians|1 Yes we are|1 That was not my intention I should have specified I apologize|1 Well no one has died yet outside of China|0 Group Hi Weary Donkey|0 As an introvert this is a dream come true|1 Totally depends on how you are defining effectiveness I guess It didnt reduce time in the ICU so didnt help the patient so was not effective|0 They said 20 are in serious condition 5 are critical The cruise ship has 5 in serious condition not critical|0 Considering that we all benefit when the spread of the disease is slowed thank you for your effortSame goes for everyone who washed their hands more than usual today and anyone who cancelled plans that would have exposed them to crowds|1 bringing NHS staff out of retirement This is one of many canaries in the coal mine Its a massive signal that we are about to have a very bad time|0 Isnt Chicago the main point of entry in the movie Contagion|0 This Quora answer is an interesting take on it all I do like Elon very much but doesnt mean he is a saint and it doesnt mean I have to ignore the dark side of what he needs to do to continue functioning in a world created by the eliteshttpswwwquoracomWhyisElonMuskabiggerfanofEdisonthanTesla|1 Yup and dont forget the DC Boston Amtrak corridor|1 Cool soap already knew that How do I clean the air|1 Basically what I was told yeah He said call back if you cant breathe anymoreFun times|1 If it helps children under 9 are the lowest risk group 1 of all infections and 0 deaths in that demographic The virus seems to be less severe for childrensourcehttpsscihubse101001jama20202648|0 I stocked up in January Got plenty of masks then too Friends of mine are doing the same We are not all brainwashed by faux news|1 Oh is this like Project DiscoveryOoh they should contact CCP Games and see if they can stick this into EVE Online just like the last two things they did human proteins and exoplanets|1 I worked as a college advisor for a while and at our university if you couldnt walk for some reason you could walk the following semester I had a student stuck in another country once he was there for a study abroad program but needed to stay to finish a project at his school there He couldnt walk in fall but did in spring even though he did graduate in fall Also if you decide to pursue a masters you would have another chance for a graduation ceremony I know it sucks Your expectations for the immediate future are changing and thats hard New things will come along and life will go on Sometimes the times our plans dont work out is actually better Last school year I was interviewing for a school counseling position after being a stay at home mom and part time student for the last 5 years I worked hard and got to the second round of interviews and the principal really liked me I couldnt wait to start working and bring in extra money Well I didnt get the job I was so bummed Fast forward a month and I found out I was pregnant very unexpectedly with our 4th child I would have had no leave for when I had him I would be leaving a 1 month old in daycare if I had gotten that job Now with all of this I cant help but be happy that I did not get that job I would have been in a school I am also a type 1 diabetic when Covid came around Basically it all worked out for the bestYour immediate life will look different for a while but that doesnt mean it wont all work out well in the end for you|1 Im a public librarian We are a district library though so we dont operate under the governmental entity in our townWe are in Michigan no cases so far and there is no plan to shut down yet We will if we are told to by the government But we most likely wont of our own accord any time soon thoughFor some people we do offer necessary services such as internet access or a warm place to beWe are watching this closely because it will be a difficult decision to make when the time comes People pay taxes to have access to our services But people also come in when they are visibly sick Sometimes even proudly This doesnt even account for those who are asymptomatic It wouldnt be such a concern if people would stay home when they are sick But They Do NotAs a librarian Im not panicked but I am concerned for the health of myself my coworkers and my community I do worry about all of the people in and out every day I have been washing my hands and using hand sanitizer to the point that my skin is drying out and sore Its a weird time to be a librarian|0 Yeah if I recall he said this is not going to be like a passing blizzard but more like a passing winter Or worse|1 I have no idea lol I was just speaking on the us sick pay|0 Its difficult to muster sympathy for business models that are built on importing products from the communists Its wrong in so many ways both anticipated and not|0 Please dont assume We can voice our concern to those that matter but we cannot generalize until they have a chance to react This news just broke Schools are closing fast More and more people have to acknowledge it now|0 No it wont Most of the people who die are elderly or those with preexisting conditions who are a drain on social security and insurance and who are living on government pensions real estate or dividends and not actively contributing to the economy The deaths of the elderly population in America will leave us in a significantly better economic position 10 years down the line Japan being a prime example of an aging population well cared for Obviously this isnt a good moral calculation but it is a good economic one|0 Not to be a dick but is the WAPO ever the source They almost always have sources outside their organization That is mostly how news worksI think it is a decent source but I certainly dont trust them blindly But when they tell you their source as seen here then they are not really claiming anything other than this person said this|1 The reality is that for young people there are so many more impeding threats than coronavirus to us Yes I am consciously and actively maintaining cleanliness but can I afford to call into work or pay medical bills Not exactly with my student loan debt lack of degree lack of job provided health insurance or sick days Obviously saying its nothing Is an overreaction but we cant afford to drop our lives further behind when many of us are still climbing out of a hole Coronavirus is lower on the list of threats to us and our futures Thats just a fact|0 36 Roentgen not great but not terrible|1 A lot of it is computing power Some experts say that if were able to develop quantum computers then we could create vaccines and drugs in a fraction of the time it takes to make them now|1 Wow did HH do that OK maybe I was exaggerating a bit But we are being careful|1 Same My father has heart disease hes hypertensive and he just had surgery I forwarded him the letter sent out by the local school system detailing their plans for kids to telecommute if the bug takes off here He totally ignored it When I spoke to him later on he said its a cold nothing to worry about And I stared at him and he said its only old farts like me that need to worry and I take tons of vitaminsHe lives in a retirement community|1 Its good to be cautious Someone elsewhere was recommending a ridiculously high doseI would not recommend preexposure or postexposure prophylaxis at this time But if people are hellbent and want to do this with no evidence as we dont have any evidence for prophylactic use a plausible dose for the former is 500mg once per week and for the latter something somewhat higher but lower than the doses used to treat active malaria maybe 750mg1000mg once then 500mg per day for a few days Your mileage may vary and dont blame me if you go blind|1 Brilliant idea Will do the same|1 Were good|1 Good point|1 And is the implication there that it would have been wrong for them to freak out|0 Sometimes Im in the city center on weekends and Ill see a ton of people on their phones and its always a Pokemon Go event Its neat because then I can go join a nice big raid on some gym and get a legendary or whatever is being featured Whenever I actually plan to go do an event or community day in the city is when I can never find people on their phones congregating It always has to catch me unaware|1 Just yesterday Trump told us not to stock up at the store and today hes telling us to shelter in place for fifteen daysThe man is worthless in a crisis|0 As long as theres a little time between its fine viruses have a short lifespan outside of a hostThis is actually a great idea if you dont have eye protection or a visor Its to protect from direct coughs and other bodily fluids to the face|1 The better question is why arent there interviews with survivors to reassure the public|1 What about the low Korean death rate|0 Its almost like most who post on Reddit are Western suburbanites susceptible to barrages of Sinophobic propaganda courtesy of rag corporateowned outlets The Washington Post and NYT almost 247|1 So assuming I or my kin dont become part of the statistics economic ripples are what i expect will hurt us more Think about every etsy shop drop shipper or other small businesses on main street that wint be able to get a pallet of lawn tools for their spring sales Who knows maybe we figure out a silver bullet and can drag this problems intensity out over a longer timeline|0 Ahh that makes sense thanks|1 It sounds like you made a good faith effort Thank you for doing that Im sorry Fuck em|1 Youre telling me youd happily work a minimum wage job in the middle of a global pandemic while risking your life|1 I get what they are trying to do But Im not sure you can do that without medical records Which the teacher wont have access to If people actually pay attention to this its basically going to turn into some stupid conspiracy crap with no evidence other than some dumbass teacher who read news reports|0 Not about the virus the scientific response quick data sharingAbout the epidemiology that this thing CAN BE managed if you are willing see China Singapore South KoreaAbout the virus not much but to take a stoic position it could be SARSCoV1 with a CFR of 10 Probably doesnt classify as hopeful|0 One of the weirdest things about this pandemic afterwards is going to be how the people most affected by it were the least worried Younger folks are bunkered down worrying about their parents who are all Its just a flu and out playing shuffleboard Its truly bizarre|0 Happening all over NY right now Friends coworker cant get tested nor can her family even though they are showing all the signs because she cant prove she was near anyone with itShe literally has a 104 fever and her primary care said he cant do anything for her she needs to go to the hospital and the hospital said unless she can list a carrier at the bar or concert she went to they are not allowed to test her and just go home|1 Covid stops spreading on the weekend so this is fine|1 I was actually told this week by a family member that America wont be hit as hard because we stretch from sea to shining sea and our country is so big that everyone is spread out said family member also believes in Q and that this will be over next week bc of shit Trump said at the beginning of this mess She told me that Q said it is the deep state doing this She said we created the virus here and dropped it over there I simultaneously wanted to laugh and smack her I did neither though Even after she told me that none of it was a conspiracy theory Which I told her that it is by definition What really sucks is prior to 2016 she was so smart and would debate and now she follows Trump and Qs every word and if you dont agree she gets super frustrated says she has a headache and walks away She also believes this is no worse than the flu What sucks even more is that shes my mom|0 I would not be surprised if the US will have more deaths per capita than any other country|0 2 months ago after whole year of hard work and spent 80 of savings I opened a sports bar People are supposed to come and watch football soccer games First month was great then with Italian league issues the customers count started to decrease From now on my bar is just like all the bars in the country officially closed for at least 2 weeks I know this post is not going to help but somehow I need to let the steam out Really worried about my future|0 FDM printed parts are definitely prone to bacterial contamination But if its take the risk or die Ill take the risk You could also just change them out regularly which would consume more material but its better than the alternative not having valves|1 The attribute of Polizia Giudiziaria is limited by time and space for the Polizia Municipale corpsCarabinieri is a defined military corp not a local police|0 I think people are confused Its extremely common for droplets to aerosolize but a 30 minute suspension time is pure insanity for a ransom virus To me this is like 15 consecutive lotteries winnings it just doesnt add up as a natural event|1 But uses very little dirty cash any more|0 Boris Johnson thinking herd immunity is a strategy instead of a horrible resultThis is what happens when you let influencers pretend to be leaders|0 When third world countries do a better job at handling the virus|1 1 Its a virus so it mutates more 2 It just seems that amount of serious cases is higher than in other places|0 Thank you for that God bless|1 Agree The estimated doubling of cases every 24 days httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1fullpdf combined with an estimated 14 day incubation period does not result in a huge number of symptomatic cases until 2 to 3 months after the first infection|1 China had drones making sure people where wearing masks Said they would shoot people if they did not stay in homes Killed all pets if you found infected You think that would work in a non communist country|0 Except were down about 5k cases And I expect that number to keep growing|1 For this virus this time it is an overstatement What we should be learning for the next virus and the virus after that has much greater potential Are we learning it|1 I didnt see in that paper any comparisons with viruses like flu or colds that are known to decline in summer months Wouldnt it be valuable|0 Thank Christ|1 the coronavirus is already on senegal nigeria sudan algeria egypt morocco south africa new zealand netherlands russia poland is a weird mix of different weathers|0 I dont believe our Western governments will respond anywhere near as effectively|1 My doctor told me the same as was written above but most importantly regular excercise And she was right when i dont exercise for a while it gets much worse Damn it|0 You can make printing stamps out of them if you are any good at carving|1 We had the best and I mean the best it was really just tremendous how much better our response to this Corona virus was in the rest of the world Youre asking about deaths from respiratory failure but thats fake news I need you to focus on just how huge I mean really amazing what all of these scientists my scientists in my administration what they did to stop this virus that killed so many in other parts of the world|0 Exactly Im not as worried about how many people who are dying than how many people arecoming back to life s|1 For one people who are pregnant cannot take it Additionally we need studies like this to actually prove that it works Anecdotal and preliminary evidence is encouraging but there are countless cases of promising drugs that end up being fools gold|1 Really like what Because he and his cronies have been telling the nation that its fine itll go away on its own its under controland its no worse than the flu since January|0 This is kinda moronic US did the same insane shit ALL large governments are incompetent and evil CCP dictatorship has nothing to do with communism No where in Marxs statements about communism did there exist a central leader that makes the decisions for everyone elseDemocracy socialism communism VS capitalism fascism dictatorship authoritarianismx200BThey are all different sounding works but basically the same thing|0 Awesome Thanks I am 50 and spent my entire life building my business I actually have equipment and overhead Whatever I will take a shit job and already have applications out|1 CCP doesnt care when western media picks up something They care when the domestic social media does and his videos were widely shared You dont really matter in this fight and the CCP isnt completely inept|0 A lot of people have always been throughout history as out of touch with reality The human spectrum ranges from terminally stupid to obessesively prudent Its just that in modern day we have a guy risking the spread of covid19 for a nose job and some person inside a fort made out of toilet paper and rubbing alcohol|0 Idk assuming seems dangerous today|0 Good thing theres a lot of Union representation or theyd be fuuuuuuuuuuuu|1 Tucker is the only one worth a damn on the whole networkI used to dislike him a lot but in the past year my opinion has really come around|0 Oh yeah the people there easily supports war I mean so easy that they believe everything can be resolved through war|1 Do you think he is also infected|0 Where in MD Im in Silver Spring and when I went to Aldi the other day 90 of the shelves were wiped clean I have enough food for the rest of the week but Ill be going to Walmart at 6am tomorrow to get myself food for the rest of the month|0 Where are the 1 million tests we were promised last week|1 While I respect your opinion I do not blame China Most of my family comes from southeast Asia and I can assure you that the people there have suffered tremendously from government censorship similar to what Reddit is applying now but not because of government policy but because of political bias remember spez comments regarding being able to probably sway elections in the US|1 I know I am going into dangerous territory here but can you elaborate more on why some case data is being held from the public I am sure privacy will be the reason cited but I feel like age rangehealth condition is not going to make someone identifiable Also my guess is if you asked people who are ill they would be okay with that information being released if it helps the public better understand what is going on As an example I was very surprised to learn that the Seattle case actually was in pretty bad condition for 12 days this was not reported anywhere and makes me doubt that the other international cases are truly mild|1 Seriously My parents are snow birding in FL right now They went to the fucking casino yesterday With a friend of theirs who has diabetes and other health issues All of them are in their 70s|1 Ive been reading it that way this entire time lol|1 They bought 70000 dollars of wipes so id say not hard up for cash |1 Military gets plenty of taxes They tend to spend it on things like billion dollar bombers|1 Damn well thats alot of fun things to find out Now Im even more worried about the coronavirus|1 Rebel news lol|1 Agree with your other points But its not an immunosuppressive but rather an immunomodulator|1 They shouldnt be bailed out they should be nationalised instead Preserves employees jobs while removing those who recklessly handled the companies and their ability to profit from itThis is why the rich are so afraid of socialismLess room for them to turn a tragedy into a profit|1 I agree still struggle listening to his press conferences but so far I like his handling of the situation I know now I wont vote liberal next election though|1 Oh okay|1 Facts Ive been trying read say the New York Times coronavirus articles but they dont let me read any Very annoying|0 A shitty meme wouldnt have upvotes |0 They need people who arent already infected to test the effectiveness of the vaccineTreating desperately ill volunteers would skew the data|0 You think a democratic country would send tanks to contain some small riots For what Kill few thousandThe tanks were just back from a training in Sardinia and the video you posted was shooted in Palermo this morning some people got scared but they were just passing by You can find this info in any Italian and local newspaper|0 Then how come theyre still alive You know we can just bombard the entirety of Gaza andor find and kill every Palestinian in the West Bank not to mention the 20 of Israeli citizens who are Arab Muslim the majority identifying as Palestinians But theyre still alive and that 20 legally have equal rights and laws and initiatives are being passed to combat the societal discrimination they face|0 I agree with Taiwan really should have named it as soon as possible now it has diferent names and creates confusion To me its ncov19 when I search for news I look for coronavirus Should have given it a name quickly in January the press are still calling it coronavirus WHO are just too slow|1 He wants me to move but I dont feel right leaving him alone I understand its more logical but I cant bring myself to leave him by himself|0 Of course its ongoing who doesnt know that If it wasnt ongoing no country would be on lockdown right now were right in the thick of it|1 Was linking to a nonexistent subreddit intentional to make a point or did you fuck up|0 Dude you do realize that healthy people with no preexisting conditions die of the flu every year in every age bracket right And most people 50 have some sort of underlying condition tbhThe 5065 group in the US have a 3x mortality over someone half their age|0 Is Bill high Rich countries are fucking this up they cant even help themselves let alone others|1 If you can buy expectorants cough suppressants and Tylenol for fevercontrol now If you expect you will be exposed and get sick these medicines are going to be the new TP|0 Yes Charles you wanted me|1 I got laughed at today for being afraid of a virus Mentioned 1918 got told hospital care is better today lol Meanwhile national guard deployed to lockdown New Rochelle Italy quarantined Washington governor considering sudden lockdowns|1 Lawsuit time baybee|0 Totally unrelated but speaking solely about national security I would imagine the exact opposite is true nowYep after Mao died and the market people took over the party they ended the third front industrial policy that put all the heavy industry in the middle of nowhere Today production and distribution mostly falls along market principles Even state owned enterprises are expected to compete with each other and make a profit|1 The international cases seem to take a long time to recover as well but we dont have so many details on themIn Jan 110 the number of cases was relatively small and the disease was still spreading thus affecting more elderly too|1 RELATED the editor of the Lancet medical journal has accused the UK government of playing roulette with the publichttpswwwthelondoneconomiccomnewsgovernmentisplayingroulettewiththepublicasukcoronaviruscaseshit4561103ampHe said Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson claim they are following the science but that is not trueThe evidence is clear We need urgent implementation of social distancing and closure policies The government is playing roulette with the public This is a major error|1 Its very true Every illness even the common cold is a threat to someone with cancer Im sorry about your mother |0 Lol thats already happening in Korea on US bases I have a friend whos there who isnt even allowed to leave her house to take her dogs outside If a quarantine like that is whats needed 1st world better suck it up and deal with it|1 Firstly 12 weeks is 3 months There has not been 3 months since the official discovery of the virus december 30th yethas an increasing average number of new cases over the past 12 weeks andChinas effective quarantine has resulted in decreasing average number of new cases so we need to wait for other countries to exeed chinas numbers now|1 I really appreciate your work here|1 Whats happening is that large numbers of people all of whom are more intelligent better informed more knowledgeable and more experienced than you or I are taking all the data available to them from historical as well as current outbreaks and feeding it into a pandemic response strategy that has been developed and tested repeatedly over the past decadeThey are then using the output of that strategy to inform the Government on what steps should be taken and when in order to maximise the effectiveness of those steps minimise the load on the NHS and thereby minimise the number of cases that end up becoming severe or fatalIm not going to tell you not to be anxious We are facing a significant and likely sustained challenge for at least the next 23 months if not longer However you should be reassured that there is a plan and that that plan is not reactive and hasnt being thrown together or pulled out of thing air Instead it is based on data evidence and a methodical approach to dealing with the crisis|1 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 ID docs are the best|1 On September 9 2016 the United States Food and Drug Administration FDA banned the incorporation of triclosan and 18 other antimicrobial chemicals from household soap products and the next year prevented companies from using triclosan in overthecounter health care antiseptic products without premarket reviewOld news buddy|1 I think the major delay in the US has been this persistence of only using the CDC to testWell the CDC has sent out 40 000 test kits to other labs and had to recall them a day later because they turned out to be flawed So someone has clearly fucked up somewhere in the US|0 So to be clear there are two strains just the clinical features are uncertain|0 Mind you this is the EXACT same thing that happened in Italy a doctor started testing against WHO reccommendation and all shit blew up The problem is not how many people have the virus the problem is how many people have the virus AND DONT KNOW IT Dont focus only on the daily numbers they mean jack shit if they dont accurately reflect the real situation|0 I cant fucking say better than that Fuck|0 Even before covid19 became a thing there were loads of people who volunteered to become test monkeys for science in return for cash And despite the fact that I myself would never ever do something like that it still needs to be done Not everything can be tested on animals so for most types of new medicines human trials are necessaryIts not like doctors are patiently waiting to inject people with an unknown thing hoping that it would make people sick Once people volunteer for human trials they get informed as much as possible and can still choose to stop the trials at any time before it starts|1 Did you have any kind of health problems after that How were you feeling afterwards Noticed differences in your endurancesport performance|0 If people stopped travel there wouldnt be a confirmed case here|0 Nothing Im a kitchen manager at one restaurant and a chef at another Where I KM I cut hours for employees who call in sick Im told to do that and I hate it We keep employees at a min so they cant incur sick days We want them to come in sick and punish them for calling in sick We dont care that you have a family I dont care because no one cares about me having to not care about people like you and your husband Ive inherited not caring I cared a little when I first started But Im so jaded now that I need a stiff drink after making the schedule Please dont have any positive thoughts about working in the food industry Its manicured dehumanization|0 And if we arent sureIMHO opinion better tobe overprepared than under|0 You also send out droplets when you speak although much less than a sneeze our a cough If you met up for coffee with a friend and sat across a small table from them and had a deep conversation for an hour then theyre gettin some droplets from you|1 At some point there might be no choice but to train as you go|0 Id be cautious about unnecessarily reducing fevers with any drugs Fevers make you feel shitty but theyre a valuable part of your immune response|1 Ah yes thank you I understand I thought it was just a little bit of a contradiction That one of the reasons for wearing one would be that you dont touch your face as often and I could imagine that when youre eating you touch your face cause you put it on and off multiple timesIt would make space for more patients in general indeed maybe not even for just Corona ones|1 Dude my fucking room mate who hasnt taken this seriously at all has already started eating the prep food Went straight for the protein bars and used sauce and the pasta to make spaghetti They got mad when I told them to stop I made a post not too long ago about packing up my shit and heading to the forest on some plot my family owns Im closer and closer to taking that plan into action|0 Yeah that was my first thought as well Thats exactly how it happened in the movie New drinking game watch Contagion and take a drink every time something happens in the movie that happened in real life|1 Good news is on the way A miracle drug called Remdesivir is undergoing Phase III trials as we speak They should be completed in a couple of weeks or so with a fast track to FDA approval for coronavirus treatment It was developed for Ebola and already proven safe for humansThis means there is a treatment protocol While it is not a vaccine if by wild chance you get a serious case you will be cured and on your way to back to enjoying life and feeling the sun on your faceThat is a good thing Keep Calm and Live Life|1 article only said it detects RNA DNA but not that it can discriminate between SARSCoV2 or other RNA such as flu or common cold if this is correct there well be a lot of false positives|1 Wow|1 I dont agree with this Its 2020|0 Yes My husband and I both looked at each other with that oh shit he sounds sick look|0 It was already bad there two weeks ago they just hadnt tested enough people to realize how bad Just like things are in the US now|0 Agreed New York and Washington state Governors are doing the right thing|1 Can confirm similarities Chinese Tier 23 cities love KFC|1 Thats why I like to say weve barely identified the speck of the iceberg hereAmidst all of this weve got to watch out for an iceberg too|1 This is now one of my favorite Reddit posts ever RIP Mike This is some wellneeded perspective I spent several days in a state of panic constantly scrolling to get updates I finally realized for myself that no matter how much I worry no matter how many Tweets and Reddit posts I read there is absolutely nothing I can do to change this situation Living with pandemics and deadly viruses is just a part of being a human on this planet All I can do is stay reasonably informed and wash my hands|0 Good on your neighbor but unfortunately hes in the minority|0 lol its okay the link you gave was to an index page it can be confusing|1 No at the time exams could be done if you respected some rules for example keeping students 1m apart from each other problem is that its physically impossibile since were talking about hundreds of studentsNow however all the exams are stopped|0 Yes which is why we are waiting on results of clinical trials from China of antiviral and other drugs that are due to begin reporting from AprilBut even if any drugs are found to be effective there will then be a problem of obtaining sufficient stocks to treat large numbers and then a question of how to deliver themMy point is that a great deal of attention is given to the potential of drugs being trialled while the difficulty of sourcing large quantities and delivering them to patients during the current pandemic is rarely discussed Drugs will only be useful if people can get them|1 You jest but with how many Chinese people travel to Canada on a regular basis you guys are probably one of the few countries that will get fcked really badly if the virus got through and a community outbreak happensI feel like at this point the doomsayers and naysayers are equally bad Neither side want to do research and both side just want to be right instead of thinking about the situation more critically|0 I like how they dont even follow the 2 metre recommendation lmfao|1 Doctor takes hand of dying patientIm sorry but the market has spokenspring board launches uninsured pleb from hospital bed out windowhand sanitizer NEXT|1 Yeah This is what gets me with all the it will mostly kill the old or those with preexisting conditions talk My parents are old and have preexisting conditions|0 He should be sued and held liable for some kind of assault He is knowledgeable enough to know the threat risk and potential catastrophe of his decisions and actions Ignorance is not an excuse for him|0 Hero|1 this will be remembered genuinely hopefully not for the countless dead but more for the unprecedented social experiment that has happened in China quarantining around 50m people thats boggling the mind|0 Yeah Im having pain under my ribs breathing right now Fever gone now I have a cough thats like an itch I cant scratch My state wont test anyone whos not a close contact of a confirmed case|1 I was being sarcastic but yea that too probably doesnt help|0 Man this really sucks to be an airline pilot Layoffs will be in the 1020 range likely |0 Logarithmic scale is totally inappropriate and misleading to the lay person|0 This A coworkers is being tested whos a student a at wlu in Waterloo Students are out in crowded pubs rn and will be flocking to the Ezra block party Tuesday We wont know for a few days but a positive means my family will be in self isolation and that its likely been spread all over the campusI made a post on the subreddit earlier and apparently theres a cough going around wlu campus Im at uwaterloo but tons of students have been coughing there too Its literally constant dry coughing on campus and now Im starting to get worried this is why they cancelled classesIf your in kw stay in as much as possible Im worried its going to get bad in a few weeks |0 Nothing to see here folks This is like asia hate s|0 Whats the period trick|0 Ok so they only missed it by 25 logs lol|1 that was a pretty neat trick to ensure that the bond matures without a payout|1 there are TONS of antivax people in the midwest its pure insanity also flat earthers a guy i used to work with said once yeah they start out indoctrinating them young with that globe they have on the teachers desk this guy literally made 200Kyear i lived overseas for a long time and coming back was crazy i will never get used to it and will never feel at home here they sure love them some Jesus though|1 Youre not alone I even made a sub just so I can start posting stories people have of them just a fluCrowd I dont understand it|1 I was literally at the gym and a restaurant yesterday My attitude was I wasnt going to avoid these places in till a confirmed case in my community Now there is news of a confirmed case from someone on a flight 5 days ago Like where did that person go in the days after landing like fuck me I feel like a piece of shit|1 Society in the west broke many years ago This is why Its dysfunctional|0 No one knows if it will work Its kinda split opinion down the middle I think what people are more concerned about is its an unknown risk It has the potential to go pear shaped quickly or it could be playing a blinderThere is nothing to even suggest closing entire countries down is the way to go Yeah you cut the figures down initially but what happens when that door is reopened It may just swamp countries again There is no right or wrong way at the moment You cant keep opening and closing entire countries down repeatedly for the next year or so|0 No chance of touching the face with that bottle the bag looks like a 2 second improvise after seeing bottle head and panicking|0 Oh my god Absolutely tragic|0 Reverse devils advocate paid vacation for people who usually dont get paid vacations|0 You must be talking about some other sub because i saw none of that here outside of a few religiuos zealot comments|0 Thats quite the jump to conclusions Im not looking for a conspiracy at all surprised you went there with a response as short as mine If were being honest our company is planning on hosting a conference with between 250350 in attendance in April and were risking a loss of 500k if we cancel over fears of the coronavirus We are trying to do the responsible thing but will take a huge hit financially if we do so That is unless a pandemic is announced by The WHO This would allow force majeure to go into effect and we wouldnt end up taking that huge loss Also stop being so skeptical of people online Everyones just trying to make it through this thing Nothing about my question had anything to do with any kind of conspiracy|1 Floyd Bennett would be a perfect location as its not a populated area of brooklyn|1 Again how is this off topic I agree social sciences are liberal arts and not science but this is literally the topic of discussion Its literally the top story on CNN about the virus FYI on how racism is worse than the actual virusOr are you just policing and making up the topics as you go|0 Yeah and you americans will die by the millions because you keep voting against socialized healthcare but at least you are not italians rightEdit also because you are heavily inspired by Idiocracy when it comes to candidates|1 I just made a post on rCoronavirusCanada earlier I take 400mg hydroxychloroquine daily and have emailed my doc asking for a Covid19 antibody test if available Ill report back|0 Thank you for the update And thank you for the work you do Stay safe|1 Same thing happened at our school only the school board sent out a notice that basically said stop being racist Im not sure how its racist when its based on TRAVEL not the colour of their skin but whatever I guess|0 I wonder why the numbers are quite low here in comparison to England|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Sorry not sure I get your meaning They dont want people from the mainland going to HK correct If you are in mainland aka the other aide of the border then why would you go to HK Also the mainland medical insurance they pay into doesnt apply in HK If you mean that their strike would hurt others in HK I imagine they will keep the emergency rooms up and running but the rest would strikeAlso if it gets bad such as it in Wuhan anyone who had a severe medical issue who goes to the hospital for any reason would be at high risk of being infected with the virus This would likely be incredible life threatening to get this virus on top the issue they went to the hospital for in the first place|0 ConjunctivitisSince last week seems to have cleared upIve been googling info on eye problems and couldnt find anything Ive had a dry coughMilld burning sensation more flushing than permanent temperature both ultra mild Left eye swollen and weeping right eye itchy and just feeling weird at times|0 Pretty much everywhere at this point|1 Vs the Mainstream Media trying to fearmongering the living hell out of this virus |0 To be devils advocate I dont think they would airlift her in other countries and get facial reconstruction right away 110k before insurance is better than dead|0 Yes you still need to multiply by infection rate to approximate What percent of 6070 year olds with confirmed nCoV19 infection in that population are expected to die in the next yearBecause your figure of 002 is for people who are infected Infected population is 100 of your data But thats not what it will be in real life Even worst pandemics do not infect 100 of the world eg swine flu infected 4060 of world population So you need to multiply by an estimate of what of people will be infected and you have to assume mortality rate will be constant when infected increases which may or may not be a good assumption idk|0 This is excellent|1 The people on the diamond princess are receiving medical attention in a first world country and many have been evacuated back to the USA|1 Holy shit this could be an SNL skit|0 I hate Xi too buddy But your president is an even bigger idiot|0 Thats right he also survived a deadly brain cloud|1 I quit two weeks ago again cause of this outbreak and am having a tight chest from what I believe is my lungs healing When I quit smoking tobacco I never experienced this Of course I went on to vape for a few years afterwards to avoid nicotine withdrawal ButIn 03 when I first considered vaping for cessation I did my fair share of research on the matter of whether it was safe What I found is that PG is used in many things we consume Its used in theatrical smoke so theater employees inhale it frequently There were no adverse issues aside from the rare occurrence of allergy During that research I came across a study that indicated that PG might actually protect the lungs from viral infection because of the way that PG coats the inner linings of the lung Youll never find that study now Ive looked Its nowhere Its not surprising that I cant find it now considering how charged the topic is the interests involved now and the nature of the narrative driven internet in 2020 |1 Have you seen any evidence that this virus could have been engineered Or is it completely a natural occurrence|1 The deputy health minister was confirmed sick hours after giving a speech everything was ok|1 I think that was smart |1 Recovery percentage in the UK at this point doesnt mean much of anything other than if treated properly that its not very deadly The problem is how contagious it apparently is due to the long time before it showsDeath when 9 people are infected and have 100 priority in care means little The issue becomes what happens if 10k people are infected or 30k people in 1 area and they dont get that same level or even adequate treatment because the medical staff is overwhelmed or they are constantly short on supplies9 cases in UK with no real issues of access to treatment for the patients doesnt mean this will not be far more deadly if cases keep spiking and people arent getting the right treatment Example as in China right now there is very little chance with 67k people infected that their support staff can keep up Hence the reason the mortality rate is climbingIf they cant properly treat people because they are over worked have no beds run out of supplies then people who probably should have lived will die Everything depends on containment and stopping the spread Death tolls at this point are not the issues to focus on thinking its not a biggie because its low in places they arent overwhelmed If they become overwhelmed the death rates will skyrocketThink for just one moment the logistics of keeping just 10k people who are sick properly hydrated That in its self is a nightmare If you are sick even with the flu and cant stay hydrated you will die So the virus isnt likely to be the cause of death for the majority it will be other things the virus caused to kill people|0 I think one of the things people overlook is that its not just exposing yourself to more people its also about overlapping social circlesIf you see someone 1 on 1 thats only 1 more person you are exposing yourself to but if they work somewhere different youre now exposing their entire workplace to your workplaces sicknesses and vice versa|1 Thats a good idea The same thing gets posted a dozen times so if 10 of the posts of the same article dont have US in the title theyd be removed and it would cut down on the spaminess|1 Its what we need with idiots still behaving like nothing going on|1 Fellow Portlander here Its amazing how it seems few people are taking it seriously even with school closures Folks are still out at stores and restaurants businesses still open We cant be too far behind Seattle|1 Sure lets cause widespread economic collapse to prevent something that we cant even agree to what degree we are contributing Relax man this isnt a conspiracy to save the world from global warming|1 Sad but true|1 Thanks for a voice of reason I know a number of people in Shanghai friends and colleagues and its not as dark as originally portrayed here|1 Im sure you dont see the future|1 As I posted above the US already has a large ventilator stockpile that could swell to support 300 the current capacity if required up to 150000 ventilators current need is around 60k This was set up quite a while ago in response to a theoretical flu epidemicEdit Not sure why this would be downvoted this is information from a Johns Hopkins whitepaper from Feb 2020 reviewing the US preparedness for an outbreak Google United States ventilator stockpile and it should be in the top few results if interested|1 Well Tell this to my company They basically wait until a worker is confirmed to be infected Everybody is prepared for home office Nope You have to come here ofc via public transport and first infect everyone until we do something sane|0 I heard a report of 50 asymptomatic It wouldnt surprise me if there is such a high asymptomatic number especially considering that young people and children rarely exhibit symptoms at all There are definitely body compositions that shrug off this virus with ease Theres just also body compositions that die from it|0 Fuck off|0 No joke We already had a flu plan in place and general infrastructure vpn meeting software voip products etc My company values its public image and depends on looking safe and will absolutely send us home as soon as local government advises it but even the current rampup to make it happen isnt easyEven my part at home feel daunting around other life chores new mayhem Im grateful I can theoretically work from home when the tome comes but Im being more vocal in my yearlong fight with my ISP and Im not excited about moving furniture around to make an office I hope my mostly internal customers are understanding when the service takes a hit those first few days but theyre going to be uprooted and stressed too|1 Unless you have a perfect seal around a mask that filters viruses youre gonna get it Up to 3 hours in the air thats insane|1 I used to let my PS3 compute for foldinghome It overheated and died RIP PS3|0 Chinas academic corruption is well documented for years prior to COVID19 I said neither of the things you implied Get a grip|1 Hide their keys and their shoes|0 I have been watching from the beginning I tried to tell peoplebut I was told I was just paranoid I couldnt understand why no one was worriedshit theyre still not Some of my family finally listenedsome unfortunately have kept their heads firmly in the sand Its heartbreaking because Ive lost friends Ive had for years because they just dont want to believe it I dont talk about it anymoreIve done all I can do Most swear its an elaborate plan to take down Trumpas if the whole world revolves around America If I had not been following thismy family and I would have been stuck in those grocery stores with the crazy toilet paper peopleso thank you|0 httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh06s2whatflatteningthecurveactuallylookslikeutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare Philly chose to give the middle finger and STL went the cautious route|0 EBSCO is a great resource For those of you wanting to access other content check with your local library system Most provide access with a library card number Some libraries also provide online library card sign up if you are in a quarintined area A few states even provide it statewide to each citizen Ohio is one of those|1 45 hospitals in Wuhan We are fucked|0 thats like an assassin not killing their target on purpose but sending them a note saying next time i wont miss in order to scare them shitless lmao that aint a weapon thats just a meme|1 I made an alt account just to use here because wow am I ashamed of how unhealthy my relationship with this sub is lol This is the weird shit Im worried about|0 In a cult the central figure usually has godlike reverence Its hard to break that conditioning|0 Curtailing is better than nothing It also provides somewhat of an early warning system|1 Very interesting thx for link|1 Thank you Its not like items will forever be sold out|1 Thats an awful thing to say and it isnt true|0 What do you think will happen as you get progressively more abusive Honestly|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Not long Occasionally we have shortages as a result of filthy or faulty manufacturing in China anyway You get notices weekly about one drug or another being low because of recalls ect Major issues have largely been ignored It saves corporations pennies thats what is important shareholder wealth Not safety or reliable safe supplies Never has been|0 In terms of infections per million of population the UK currently seems to be in a significantly better state than Germany and France although that might rapidly change httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountries|1 Im an armchair analyst not an epidemiologist but have also arrived at the contagious but mild in healthy subjects hypothesis Like you I was puzzling through the published data and kept coming back to this doesnt make sense The key for me was on Saturday night when Trevor Bedford tweeted out the Snohomish WA genome analysisI wrote up my analysis in the Snohomish thread and theres quite a bit of discussion there httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfboufktheteamattheseattleflustudyhavesequencedfj5owkaTheres still a lot of conflicting and fuzzy data but the more I look at the overall picture the more I think this general thesis is directionally correct Basically the Wuhan Iran and Italy numbers are misleading and Germany South Korea Diamond Princess postadjustments for demographics mixing Singapore etc are better priors to model for the US Im going to update my post in Snohomish to add a link to this thread for analysis of Germany|1 If youre female those random fevers could be driven by your regular hormone cycle Tracking daily basal temperature could confirm if this is what causes it for you in case knowing would give you any peace|1 Literally billionshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK215623 of people have been treated with chloroquine for malaria Thats why we know so much about it Thats why we know so much about it The main risk is people going blind from taking chloroquine continuously for more than 5 years|0 Kind of funny|1 It sounds absolutely awful but I really want it to take hold not kill anyone though so that Boris has to come out in another week and say yeah I done fucked up and basically admit that everyone else was right all along|1 thats awesome but you and I both know the average joe isnt selfdisciplined enough to do that only if there was a full shutdown|1 they recommend Paracetamol here in Spain|1 Well they dont work if youre healthy but they do decrease the speed of spread if you are sick blocking coughs and sneezes for the most part|0 When you read something and it feels like your own mind wrote it We are with you man I have same situation familiy business which is foundation of our lifes Now everything is uncertain yet they do not comprehend and are not able to adjust yet IT REALLY SUCKS I believe you know this if not have a look httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvogf6Hru2trEhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvogf6Hru2trE|0 Stay safe everyone Wash your hands|1 It is not the President making up those stats it is the public health care experts who cared a lot about flattening the panic curveWe are in this mess now because the statistics boomer remover it just kills old people Those age group mortality statistics should be adjusted for age group infection rates Those age group statistics should also show the of severe cases if 3 of 2029 year olds gets severe COVID19 required intubation then that relevates the 02 mortality rate for this age group Just 80 of SARS and MERS survivors is healthy enough to go to work 2 years after infection All report severe loss of quality of lifeIf 70 of the population gets it thats young people coming into contact with many more people than old people sitting at home waiting for their grand kids to visit them for a hugIt is not a tinfoil take too Macron said very much the same|0 Snapchat isnt the original source of the video thou It is likely reposting from somewhere els|0 Lol|1 He has been one of the slowest to close schools There has been no word on the status of Illinois stock of emergency protective equipment California for example had N95 respirators Most of the states stockpile of several million is expired leaving only about 20000 masks for use the governors office confirmedhttpstimesofsandiegocomtech20200229californiafacesshortageofcoronavirustestkitsandspecializedfacemasks And meanwhile huge crowds are celebrating in Chicago this weekend St Patricks Day partiers hit the town over officials pleas amid coronavirus outbreakhttpschicagosuntimescomcoronavirus202031421179885stpatricksdaychicagocoronavirus|1 Sad but true|1 Agreed but I would also like to see the test numbersIf the number of tests is the same then an increasing positive means its still increasing If they expanded the testing number then an increase might be an actual decreaseThere are a lot of variables|1 Far too slowly to be effective|1 People are NOT locked in their homes They can freely go out to bars and restaurants at least 1m fro other people go for a walk etc The lockdown is partial nowhere close to the Wuhan style|1 Yeah lets make him panic more Thats BS advice umagony gave much better oneHe is not in center of China He is in country where they got one confirmed case of someone who was in center of this virus and is isolated now|0 Paul Quinn aged 57 has a 13 mortality risk from this virus|0 I realize what he said The question is whether he can deliver 10 tons per day for a multistep reaction pharmaceutical I want to see his facilityAnd 25 000 tons for the world Where are the precursors coming from|1 But but it has and did Sure were not at a Wuhan situation in Chicago yet Doesnt make the quoted text any less false|1 When they start becoming more honest about the situation its time to worry|1 Leap years are cursed 2008 market crash 2012 mass hysteria end of the world 2016 where do i even begin 2020 ww3 almost happened Australia fires coronavirus and global economic collapse and moreCan we ban leap years pls Just do years like 2021202220232025 Just skip the leap years its not worth keeping them|0 As others have pointed out pangolins are actually remarkably distantly related to anteaters about as distantly as WE are in factanteaters are xenarthans which are a Really Weird Clade of placentals which also include armadillos and slothsThey USED to be classified as a sister group to xenarthans which is probably part of the confusionweve gotten really good at tracing likely ancestry of extant mammals via genetic analysis so the weirdness with pangolins is now known to be a case of convergent evolutionPangolins at least in modern cladograms are now classified in a clade Ferae with Carnivora like cats and dogs and ferrets and tanuki and seals and bears and civets and hyenas and the pangolin clade Pholidota is actually considered the immediate sister clade to Carnivora theyre about as related to cats and dogs as you are to a colugohttpsenwikipediaorgwikiColugo or flying lemur Some extinct critters that have historically been classified as Carnivora or protoCarnivora like creodonts have turned out to be even closer relatives to pangolins than to Carnivora properWhere it gets interesting is where Ferae fits in with other cladesthe immediate sister group of the Ferae according to the most recent cladograms are either euungulates which is to say all the hoofed critters or chiropterans bats including the flying foxes as well as the tiny insectivorous bats This definitely raises some eyebrows in regards to the wet markets SARS and MERS are known to have done a chiropteran Carnivora humans leap bats civets humans for SARS AND a chiropteran Euungulates humans leap bats camels humans for MERS If the pangolin link is confirmed itd definitely point to chiropteran Ferungulata human spread being particularly risky for emerging human coronaviruses much as avian and particularly galloanseridchickens and ducks and geese and turkeys and other fowl porcine human transmission of influenza viruses is particularly risky for emerging influenzas|1 Speculation on my part but if theres valid reason to believe that COVID19 could become a common cold itself I wouldnt be surprised if chest xrays for most young children with COVID19 ended up looking nearly identical to the same in children with one of the regular coronavirus common colds instead|0 Thank you for your information and thoughtful posts Gonna go ahead and pull him out|1 Today was the largest point drop in history It was also the 2nd largest percentage drop in historyx200BBreaking the record that was set on Thursday Which was the 4th largest percentage drop in history at the time now 5thx200BWhich broke the record set on last Monday Which was the 11th largest percentage drop in history at the time now 13th|0 Which team are you a part ofWould like to list it herehttpsforumawesystemsinfotprojectlist1230httpsforumawesystemsinfotprojectlist1230|1 After a certain point testing will become counterproductive If we cant contain the spread and if the hospitals are filling up the resources will be better spent treating the sick then identifying positive cases Italy is already there and I expect the US to be as well|1 The simplest way to keep confirmed cases low is to not test for it And how many tests are available in the US Hopeful this will change quicklywe need data data and more data|1 Well they say they wont cancel but im sure they will still owe sad times|0 This is horrifying and the last one sent shivers down my spine|0 and play WoW|1 and being sweaty Possibly infected people with autographs|0 Or id software Doom Eternal comes out thursdayish|0 Panic is a terrible idea Taking extreme precautions calmly is a good idea|0 PAX has always bothered my throat more than a nicely cooled rig draw|1 Thats so so sad I can totally understand that reasoning Sometimes during the day I will try to have that attitude but I later find myself prepping again Sometimes Ill make a pact with myself that Im not gonna talk about it with people who have already shown a disinterest Im going to have a work meeting in a few weeks where useless unimportant bullshit will be discussed Im weighing whether I should bring it up or not The thing is Im afraid if I do catch this or am sick in the future they will think Im being paranoid and think Im full of shit I can hear it now pretty funny how she was worried about the Coronavirus and now she says she has the Coronavirus It might look like I was planning on using it the whole time to take off work|0 Unrelated I love your username|1 You seriously cant believe this Our growth is slower because NOBODY knows the accurate numbers of infectedwhy NOT ENOUGH TESTINGOur government is lying to us too Its beyond me how you can believe they are being transparent|0 Yes but its the same phrase used in this sub three weeks ago too|1 I feel like we are in a SciFi movie right now Kinda like the end of Planet of Apes With the planes I dont know its trippy|1 Is it Fox is telling him this or Rush Limbaugh A lot of people are wrong about this virus The medical community is still trying to figure this out Has the WHO declared a pandemic yet I get it We just want to bash the orange man over something|0 Thank you|1 If new submissions are restricted could mods please set up a daily discussion thread|0 Its more like almost a million|1 Nope Fuck that state|1 Man how wild would it be if it turned out the best way to get through this thing was to intentionally get infected by ingestion rather than inhalation|1 Mail carrier here in Clearwater This has been the reason Ive been in panic unfortunately Theres lack testing down playing of the virus We are about to have a huge huge spike with incoming spring break travel domestic plus our beaches I still see people out and about|0 Rich PeopleCelebrities Her family So sad|1 Yes stay away from labs|1 rcollapse has arrived Time to move to my comfy panic bunker in NZ|0 My boyfriend is going to Florida for less than 48 hrs to hang with his friends for the weekend Im trying to convince him to stay here he has mild asthma We live in NYC and hes set on the idea that hes safer in Florida than here Im truly freaking out|1 Sadly the world we live in|0 Vote by mail is the best thing ever fyi|1 Well I commend them on their testing |1 Stores in Italy allow a few people in at a time There can be 50 or so people in line|1 im also interested in knowing|1 It confuses me why we arent doing it we need to unite against this vermin in Westminster now more than ever|0 Dont blame another countries from your own government incompetence Why dont u look at all the neighbouring countries They heard the message and they took it sraly Rest of the world just sitting on their fat ass and watched fking memeing instead of preparing Now look what happening sht is rampant|0 It isnt People are tested on the weekend maybe less and only if it is an emergency which this wasnt Its just a worried guy who was told by some other person that they some specific lab are not doing tests on the weekend Its not an official statement by some regulatory agency or anything|0 At what point is Alex Jones completely irrelevant I almost got through half of one of his shows ONCE and I knew he was an Idiot He got deplatformed berated and put in a corner Who is still listening to this fool|0 Thank you for this Ill be putting in a resume today I only make 600 a month so its not a huge cut for me but hopefully it will be enough for a few weeks at least|1 for years ppl have been building models to predict what will happen in all given cases well see a realworld experiment how willing patients are to be tested and cured on his own expense Kinda inhumane but the ways ppl think and do are different arent they|1 The point is theyre lying about the number of deaths Nobody gives a shit about your other questions or points|0 Supply and demand cant keep up with a bunch of dipshits panic buying everything though|0 This bothers me so much If theyre right we lose a few weeks of production over nothing If Im right millions dieHow can they not see that its not worth the risk|0 Seriously Fuck china I hope it takes them a hundred years to recover from this They made their bed Now they better lie in it|1 Good for them everyone else including US should do the same|1 Dont worry when 4000 people die from Coronavirus theyll tell you how many people die from flu every year Once a celebrity dies it will be taken seriouslySad but its how it is 4000 people are just a statistic|0 LMFAO This is a CEO roll call and publicity stunt You have people up their talking about what they are doing for their customer base why isnt it someone up there talking what is being done for their citizenstax payers|1 No Not at all But flattening the curve doesnt reduce the number of infected How flat to make the curve is a legitimate policy question This virus is never leaving us Its now endemic|0 Wouldnt it have been just grand if the Fed authorized that 15 Trillion they just dumped into the stock market as an interest free loan to the CDC to fight this virus Well I guess the market is more important that human lives|1 I think the point is why bother announcing that on one day and then say youre going to do less testing the next Its almost like they have no real plan of action|0 Only true thing I have ever heard that motherfucker say|0 Lol wtf Why are you giving China all the pass if other countries play fair Wtf is that kind of reasoningYou criticise other countries for playing fair then lambasts them of not playing the game better Looool wtf I see you are indeed a China shill Good luck not getting the virus dude as well as your familyI hope you are playing the game better Lol Jesus Christ|1 But carnival is responsible for fulfillment|1 fuck my brain tends to forget how to breathe when I sleep with the thought of not breathing even when conscious I can attest that forgetting to breathe is a thing|0 Off topic but I understand on the seismic issue Born and raised in SoCal so its a part of life to some extent If its any consolation know that those small tremors while unsettling are a good thing to generally relieve pressure in the fault system and generally reduce the risk of another large earthquake|0 Some of us cannot afford to stay home Some of us are low income and work service level jobs I work at a call center My job wont even allow me to stay home I spent the last of my spare cash prepping on what I could afford weeks ago My boss told me unless our government Canadian closes our work down we all need to show up They have quoatas to meet and seats to fill to keep up with our call centers demand I asked him what would happen if we all got sick with the virus His response was at least we would all be sick together hopefully a joke He seems to think its just the flu too|0 High schoolers use instagram Free follows I guess|1 Yeah but theres a difference between occasionally walks into a glass window stupid and drinking bleach stupidThe first one is good for a few laughs the 2nd is a waste of medical supplies in the middle of a world wide pandemic where medical supplies are in short order|1 SARS and MERS had tons of funding for a vaccine until they were contained and we stopped funding them Why make a vaccine for SARS when it literally isnt even around anymore There was never any actual urge to get a vaccine for other coronaviruses because none of them were serious There is nothing particularly unique about coronaviruses which make them difficult to make a vaccine for Arguably due to the low mutation rate of this virus it would be easier to make a vaccine rather than more difficult|0 Cant say Id go with the herd immunity route de facto but truthfully until a vaccine confirmed viable Treatment Im hearing Oya1 is showing massive promise though we are all just waiting for herd immunity Or is the UK not even quarantining or canceling events etc|1 Im in CA I think its about to get very fucking real here We could well be where Italy was 10 days ago Looks to me like Northern CA is about to blow up|1 Not feeling bad is not racism|1 Equinox is 319 It is still summer but yes late summer|1 Denial is one hell of a drug|0 Its a big deal was like 911 and when jfk was shot They RARELY close|1 No No please do not fuck those people They may be carriers and sex is a great way to catch the disease|1 I never thought Id say this but Utah Youre awesome|1 Didnt you see their movie FLU They have experience |0 Gonna be awkward when the owners stop paying the players AND the arena staff|0 how do we share this world with people who willingly drink bleach|1 Stuff like this and seeing how for example the National Archives censored images out of fear of Trump are why I dont trust the American response to a potential pandemic|0 Wtf is wrong with these guys I hope in the years to come we look back and realize how broken WHO is and fix it|0 Nurse periodically checks on patientI thought yall were just sitting around playing cardshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomvideopoliticsheresthemomentastatesenatorsaidnursesprobablyplaycardsatwork201904233730418d15ce4a9d92942be2aefc4b8cvideohtml|1 Thats too extreme People go nuts not good|0 It works in vitro against SARSCOV2 It works in animal models against MERS It works in cats infected by Feline coronavirus Its been used in a select small number of COVID19 patients as a lastditch effort and they all recovered although it cant be yet said if thanks to the drug All evidence points to the fact that we might have a real silver bullet on our hands This drug has a broad spectrum of action potently inhibiting viral replication in all Coronaviruses It seems from animal studies that its best given early in the course of infection preferrably even before infection happens as it can stop any illness from developing at all but in all likelihood it significantly ameliorates the disease course even when pneumonia has already developed It could be a key weapon in the war against SARSCOV2 Proper clinical trials are underway Well know in a few weeks Im hopeful Its not a substitute to a vaccine though well need to develop a vaccine to grant longterm immunity as this drug only works as long as its given|1 Pretty difficult when the Chinese refused to export mask shipments antibioticsantivirals testing kitsWhen they make 90 of the worlds supply|0 This is one of the many reasons why its a good thing the price rises It encourages people to stock goods in case of a rise in demand|1 Theres no reason people cant be trained to wear masks Instead of spreading nonsense about masks not working we should be educating people about how to properly wear and dispose of masks|0 If your looking to the White House as a source for timely accurate information on anything these days youve already lost|0 Just curious about how do you chat with your friend|1 this is just calculated costsbenefits ratioif it has a 2 mortality and it kills mostly elderly people does it cost me more to let it spread and do its job or does it cost me more to tell people to stay home and have our GDP shrinkif you think the priority is trying to save as many people as thay can you live on the moon|0 Previously you said that they stopped reporting Now youre talking about how the numbers are wrong Yet somehow according to the person I replied to the numbers match the numbers reported by Italy Also the WHO sent a team into China and they reported that the numbers do not seem to be fake|0 your flaw is believing that the ccp only cares about trade theyve shown in the past that they know they cant sweep large scale issues under the rug and if the people demand it they do something about it eg pollution problems and climate change are issues that chinese citizens were angry about and as a result the ccp started actually making an effort fighting them the world aint black and white homie|0 Human life is more important than bodily autonomy Hmmm where have I heard that argument before|0 That matches what Ive heard Being ambivalent about the big oaf doesntThere are plenty of examples of how his leadership has could have this might still and will hurt the response If nothing else the buck stops with him|0 I think its the whole argument that when you have 10 people confirmed tested you likely have hundreds who simply havent been tested Essentially what you can do is basically stop and say Alright so we have 10 tested It takes 56 days to incubate and the quarantine is 14 days So we wont know the real number of people who are sick today for at least one week The number of people showing symptoms in one week is bare minimum the number of people sick right now Basically speaking if we brought in large scale testing and then a week from now you had 10000 symptomatic cases You had 10000 cases today they just werent tested yet|0 I suspect the truth is being suppressed to prevent mass panic|0 This is true Theres also the fact that the virus spread in China has basically allowed them to perform the biggest medical experiment in human history to the rest of the worlds benefit with so many critical cases they can throw EVERYTHING at it and just see what worksIf the chloroquine thing turns out to be as effective as they say maybe we can dodge this damn thing and maybe the people of China can stop suffering I know that the reality of what this could have been could STILL be has made me more humble and has made me reexamine a lot about my life priorities etc|0 Awesome|1 Public transport is ongoing as normal but citizens were adviced to not participate in unnecessary social activities so it has been quite empty on the streets Retailing and FB is taking a large blow with not much people going outHospitals has always been preoccupied but seems to be well adapted by the medical personnel here So hats off to them for that Public services tax leisure depts etc were temporarily suspended other than emergency services so not much problems except for some inconvenience to those wanting to process government documentsSo its otherwise normal except for the first few weeks here with everyone going crazy stocking up groceries with lines seen everywhere for masks hand disinfectants etc|0 what were the symptoms for RSVI was sick after Christmas and was wondering if that was what I hadDid they test your 2 year old|0 Thanks I know thatAlso even so I can financially afford to quarantine myself I do not have means to anyways because of my living situation|1 We call it proning the patient but yes you flip them on their stomach face down with a vent Its for ARDS or acute respiratory syndrome Its so the patient has less work and we use less peep or positive pressure on the lungs which can be harmful if used for a long time The diaphragm is an important muscle for breathing and vent support can impair it Also we paralyze these patients so we have total control of the way they breath We do serial ABGs or arterial blood gases to see how the body is reacting to the vent and if anything needs to be changed wether its respiratory rate or 02 There are some drugs we can give too to help Some places but not all will also have VV ecmo which is a machine that bypasses blood from the lungs entirely and will oxygenate it for the patient It is very expensive up to 20k a day to be on this machine and requires a lot of medical staff to run|1 All our leaders should be held accountable With only a few exceptions they have all failed us|0 Luckily a very stable genius is in charge now|1 empress Cixi invited the foreign guests to her partyThis was probably a test or an insult|0 Honestly fuck the airlines We wouldnt even be in this mess if people didnt fucking travel the way they do I hope the whole travel industry collapses in on itself|0 No old men for country|0 Hard to ignore it when multiple officials have died|0 Rest in peace Dr Jiang|1 In terms of how this virus transmits it doesnt seem to be all that different from flu The main problem is a large fraction of mild cases as compared to SARS that make identification and isolation difficult coupled to a high fatality rate in the eldery and no preexisting immunity in the population|0 And not just him his Cabinet is such a joke and the CDC too|1 I remember when they said it wasnt as bad as the flu|1 fuck Id cry|0 Who is tired of trying to convince their parents that this is seriousI live in Asia Im literally reporting to them from the fuuuuuuuturrrrrre I didnt have a Winter vacation this year because we all stayed home voluntarily But ya know what My country is currently probably the safest in the world Also cuz we have socialized healthcare Its great Feel sick Go to the doc Copay of 3 dollars and that includes medicine Also helps when everyone trusts the government and feels its run by intelligent people who genuinely have all humans best interest at heartStop going out|1 Thanks I hate it|0 I got loads of pasta and rice and tinned stuff dettol etc today and plan on filling my freezer with veg and meat tomorrow Its all stuff we normally buy so if things dont get bad it will get used up whats annoying is you cant buy lots of paracetamol at once I have 4 kids that if they get sick cane through calpol so Im having to go to a few supermarkets for a few days I tried to get masks nowhere has them Im in the uk too|0 At least it had high CFR This time around humans are themselves doing a good job elevating this virus to take some more awards and compete with some previous virus contenders|1 My mom is 78 Shes very healthy Both her parents lived into their 90s 95 94 Shes active and I have no to reason to think she wouldnt live at least another 15 pretty good years This virus really threatens that for herI also have friends in their 60s still active including economically one guy who teaches guitar and is good at it has a lot of students another who consults and writes documentation for Apple for example|1 I was just getting into etfs too glad I only bought 1|1 Ya you are right Any virus can lead to pneumonia alone Corona virus is excepcional good doing itOf course if you get a virus you are even more prune to get infected from a bacteria but saying that virus cant cause pneumonia is falseEven the source he gave claims that virus give pneumonia can can kill alone|0 If only more people spoke like thiswe would actually have a more informed societyin my opinion|1 They probably have stronger immune systems than crocodiles|1 You just keep spamming the same study over and over again There are plenty of other studies that say otherwise|0 Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fairSo youre telling me you think two bottles of hand sanatizer at 134 euros is a fair price Price gouging doesnt have to be a linear scale it simply means youre charging more than what would normally be considered reasonable due to a shock to the supply or demand What this store is doing can absolutely be considered price gouging|1 I will be messaging you in 5 days on 20200321 034408 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003212003440820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfikd21totalconfirmedcasesofcovid19acrosscanadaasfkjetfvcontext33 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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like that no one in the comments here question that the photo was taken today|1 Well tbf Boris is more at risk himself than you are yourself He doesnt look particularly healthy|0 My wife is also 78 months pregnant after 3 early miscarriages Im scared shitless but refuse to show it around her and only show her all the good news Hopefully the hospitals wont be overran when shes in labor|1 They need to define another official term then that could activate pull out all the stops containment plans then As it is the nuance is lost People and orgs are using the lack of a Pandemic as an excuse to continue business as usual|0 Guy is arguing that phobia means fear and most racism is aversion so Sinophobia cant existTells you all you need to know probably thinks the same of homophobia and transphobia|0 Super understandable Its scary at times when we dont know whats next We just got to stand strong and practice good healthy hygiene If youre able to get a face mask great If not just constantly wash your handsface and turn away if someone coughssneeze Try not to breathe in the particles if you can Since you work in a fast food restaurant you have easy access to a sink at least Will pray and hope your circumstances will turn out alright At least for the Ohio government to wake up|1 Im too lazy to type it out but heres an explanation with example DeductiblehttpswwwhealthcaregovglossarydeductibleCopayhttpswwwhealthcaregovglossarycopaymentYour plan deductible resets every year So you have to pay your full deductible again before insurance will pick up the rest|0 Same here Under any other circumstance I would assume what Im experiencing could easily be seasonal allergies Its natural to be afraid but you shouldnt change your behavior at this point just follow the advice thats been universally given If you DO think you need immediate medical attention make really sure you minimize your risk of spreading it to others and seek treatment|1 Yes and thats IF this potential vaccine they are hoping to have ready in a few weeks even shows any effectiveness against the virus|1 I am not trying to dismiss the seriousness of the situation but there are 48 confirmed cases in London out of a population of 9 million people so first take a step back and breathe and realize its much more likely you have picked up a common cold or other minor illness as these are going around like crazy right now as they often do this time of year Here is the NHS page on coronavirus in the UK httpswwwnhsukconditionscoronaviruscovid19httpswwwnhsukconditionscoronaviruscovid19 including advice for what to do if you think you have it which is to call NHS on 111 who will assess your symptoms over the phone and arrange for a test via a nurse home visit if they think you are a riskThe advice in the UK right now is if you are ill at all stay at home if possible This is honestly good advice for ANY illness and I hope that we can all start accepting that ill people shouldnt be going to work or school regardless of what illness they have If you dont have a thermometer to take your temperature it might be worth ordering one on Amazon Prime You can also get many dry good supplies on Amazon Pantry or order a supermarket delivery so you feel comfortable staying at home and monitoring your situation for the next week|1 The problem is the CDCgovernments criteria Peoples doctors are trying to get them tested and getting refused A frustrated doctor eventually told us that my spouse didnt qualify for COVID19 testing Though we had been in Paris last week and spent time in airports and on planes with international travelersand now my spouse had a feverwe dont meet the testing criteriahttpstwittercomJSODonoghuestatus1237562539124248578Then again The doctor seemed really really frustrated by thishttpstwittercomJSODonoghuestatus1237562565787451392Actual doctors are chiming in as well Doctors are not refusing we want everyone tested Especially the doctors and nurses who are caring for HIV patients chemotherapy patients and elderly every shift but public health and CDC have to say yes and take our swabs for testing We do not get any say Mad as hellhttpstwittercomAmeliaDoGoodestatus1237573596836315136This isnt okay IMO|0 Exactly what I just said Its obvious that you are attempting to win here Its not a game and definitely no contest It also seems like you are exactly the type of asshole that thinks everyone else is the asshole Done with you as I suspect is everyone else around you|1 This would be an excellent time to start hounding your county supervisors about how stable Public Health funding is In CA County health labs the ones that have to deal with these pandemics have been losing funding and going under County labs are NOT equipped to handle this mass need right now The covid19 tests take approx 46 hrs per batch maybe a dozen patients per batch Lots of counties only have a handful of microbiologists trained and capable to do this work THAT is why were having issues with testingCALL YOUR COUNTY SUPERVISORS AND TELL THEM TO PRIORITIZE PUBLIC HEALTH|1 Sounds like sensationalist yellow journalism Id stick to articles that at least confirm sources This sounds like those one weird trick clickbait ads|1 Also good to remember that the US hasnt been testing as much Those numbers are going to skyrocket once we start catching more of themThe plus side of not catching all the cases the death rate may be lower than reported because many cases are not counted in the ratio South Korea has shown this|0 hes a janitoron the internethe does it for freehe takes his job very seriously|0 I dont care about these guys Nobody wanted to shut down but once one thing did they all had to because thats how it goes|0 friend of mine said the dead are only old people can you confirm this|0 Who looks after the kids if they close the school What if your a nurse or doctor and you have a kid at school Its not as simple as shutting them is it Especially when kids arent effected much by it and hopefully wont spread it as much if theyre not as symptomatic|1 You check the boxes except for a really high fever and even then you have a fever Try being a rich politician then youll get tested right away|1 Fuck these large corporationsso many nearby local business in Brooklyn are breathing their last gasps Im going out with mask and supporting them as long as I can but today I broke down They are my neighbors My community and they may not reopen when this is over But a lot are staying open doing takeout only for their staff|0 While Im sympathetic to your concern Im also aware of many in the public workforce who are potentially exposed to not only coronavirus but other diseases Every SingleDay Since there is a significant decrease in flights perhaps your mother can be furloughed Given her recent flight from London she may have already been exposed Youre a great testament to your Moms example of service to others Youre clearly advocating for her welfare and others But shes not alone is this effort|1 Yep But play stupid games win stupid prizes|1 Respect for this Great move I hope it works out|1 Unlikely to have caught it anyway really Noone is immune at whatever age Keep your blinkers on if you must your choice but reading that article I cant help thinking Theres lots of work to do as a quote from a college kid is a very sad potential epitaph Here lies young Quentin He died saying theres a lot of work to do s|0 its going to be like the Movie Road Warrior except instead of Gas their will be roaming packs of toilet paper raiders|1 Thats not exactly how it works but ok|1 Yeah I think we havent even really seen the incoming economic damage the coronavirus has already done so far due to the supply chain cycles that havent been prepped ahead of time|0 I have a gas mask Im good for days|1 You can make him a budget rig Love is one thing but a great rig is a great rig|1 If you had a source on that I would be grateful|1 Faulty tests|0 Also dont forget that people who go to Disneyland usually parents with kids are not that endangered by the virus compared to elderly Plus for very selfish reasons if theres a global pandemic that has a chance to overwhelm the whole healthcare system and infect everybody in the world your best bet to survive it is to be one of the first to get sick|0 Yeah but the problem is that if they dont even have the right numbers from the beginning once things really get bad they will be much worse off|0 They need to cut it out with this shit People should be able to walk around and wear whatever they want to without fear of being shamed If anything they should be encouraging mask wearing during seasons of illness|0 You realize that the reason it takes weeks to get certified as a clinical lab is entirely to do with regulations and bureaucracy right Idont think you cant blame that entirely on republicans And Im not sad that anyone cant just open a clinical lab on a whim in a food truck and start processing samples|1 A coworker is going on a cruise soon despite well gestures at the ongoing shit show|0 Do you know aviation can also be a hobby and you dont have to be an actual comander or flight controller or military personnel to know things about itIts just like medicine although with a different purpose You can search a lot about on the internet and still dont have a permit to actually do something You can be arrested for comitting a crime for doing anything without due certificationYou are moniroting some illness by observing maps on the internet and somehow people shouldnt be able to do the same with airplanes|0 Felize Navi blah|0 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpswwwglobaltimescncontent1179882shtml reduced by 76 Im a bot The expert team can help China trace the virus and provide suggestions on quarantine Chen Xi an assistant professor at the School of Public Health of Yale University told the Global Times on Monday Beijing the capital of China and a vital location for the country039s disease prevention and control work should be included in the destinations Cai Jiangnan the director of the Center for Healthcare Management at the China Europe International Business School told the Global Times on Monday According to a previous statement the WHO sent to the Global Times the team would want to learn more about the novel coronavirus during its visit to China from the characteristics of the virus to the public health response China put in place to try to contain the virusExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsf59wocchinesepropagandaoutletconfirmswhoteamwill FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 469214 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords China1 expert2 Health3 team4 Province5|1 Spitefulness and stupidity There are people who try to hurt people every day and having this virus would just give them another way to do it|0 And yet I read so many preparing with an attitude of screw everyone else heh|0 Yeah this guy is a real pos|1 Many of my friends work for starbucks tim hortons superstore etcAll open and still very aggressive about calling people in Youre sick Prove it with a note documenting you are positive for COVID19 or you wont be getting paid anything Good luck trying to get a test done on vancouver island Some of them with KNOWN contact with recent travellers from spain and the like Terrible managers worried about making their bonuses rather than the safety of the public I am so livid I havent been able to sleep I am gonna call them one by one tomorrow and then call the MP and tear them all a new one about this absolutely unacceptable A lot of these are elderly people and young people with asthma etc who make minimum wage to make ends meet and if they fucking die so Starbucks can make 500 a day and provide the third place bullshit I will lose my mind Why are people still accepting cash So many asinine things happening here Dont even get me started on the fact that they are working understaffed by MANAGEMENTS CHOICE and are not getting any extra pay Very easy for corporate employees who skype you from their home to tell you that they care about you and remind you to wash your hands after every transaction and that you shouldnt wear protective gear to prevent hysteria Disgusting I hope we all remember which companies did the right thing and which didnt when all of this blows over and spend accordingly Kudos to Taco Bell Lush Apple Nike Fit4Less and others that have stepped up Shame on every single nonessential business endangering their slave force and their customers Local businesses have my sympathies but the likes of Starbucks do not at this shortsighted cash grab|1 god I really really really wouldnt want to be a medical professional right now cant imagine the trauma some doctors and nurses will have from the situations in italy and china must be so tough wonderful people|1 No we are not Stop it or go buy some toilet paper|0 I lost my good 100 health coverage due to a loophole in the ACA because I had taken a genetic test while I was pregnant years ago so I was unhappy about that part of the ACA I grumble about it everyday since it has cost our to pay over 50 of our income for healthcare compared to 5 pre ACA I will say I appreciate President Obama tweeting out information like this He has a huge following and this information needs to get out My neighbors are more pissed about Disney closing then thinking about the people at risk in the community Hopefully this tweet will get more people aware and understanding|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The WHO doesnt officially declare pandemics though Its not an official thing that triggers specific actionsA spokesperson off the WHO also explained that they dont consider an outbreak a pandemic until it occurs worldwide difficult definition and is spreading within countries and not just through travel The last point is important Countries like India Thailand and many other countries have so far only seen cases where the infection occurred abroad or where the patient was infected by someone else who caught the virus abroad Because these cases are much easier to control they are not being considered as part of a pandemicShould more countries report infections which can not be directly linked to travel the WHO will start referring to COVID19 as a pandemic But they wont do so until their internal definition is met|1 It really has opened my eyes to how selfish people can be My missus works in a care home and most of the resident are well over 80 theres guys in there that fought in the fucking war and she feels like theyre just gonna get forgotten about because theyre old It would break your fucking heart|0 Those budget cuts dont happen until 2021 and its an overall 9 cut to HHS which funds the CDC among other agencies Stop listening to politicians|0 There has been In the Ontario case Husband Wife One got the other sick|0 We need to drive the messaging that weve already bailed out the superwealthy in 2008 now its time to bail out the middle class There are a lot of young people and early 30s people out there that got the short end of the stick in 2008 and now more than ever need our bailout The middle class is the spending class and backbone of this countrys economy Let us keep more make more and watch us revive this economy beyond any other time in history Weve tried trickledown now its time to try this|1 I dont think how good your insurance is shows up anywhere that the doctor or nurse sees unless they maybe look for it and I suspect theyll be a bit busy to do things like that|0 Maybe But even when there were videos of the lockdown we really didnt see to be terribly concerned here and treated it as something that probably wouldnt make its way here and just a bas fluHonestly the evidence was over the top and clear as day Saying that but the WHO never told us to panic is a valid excuse for our government is giving them way too much leniency|0 Stupid people are gonna be stupid I was the first and only wearer of masks on the Metro North railway when a week and a half agoPeople were looking for a second but not making silly comments The only real consequence is that they wont talk to you The mask creates a communication obstacleSometimes you need to be a little brave|1 I feel like Im living in World War Z but without Zombies|0 I used to thought Brexit is a blad politician in UK hope that can spark some joy for you|1 Even if it was run by anyone The President and all his toadies lie constantly so it is entirely likely the speech was a bunch of made up shit that sounded good to them and whether any of it actually happens is purely coincidental|0 Yeah he fucking nailed it in doing a bad job Ill admit that There is a set role a president should take which is to keep calm among the populace and avoid panic He unfortunately went far too heavy early on and far too poorly laterWhoever wrote what was on the teleprompter should be fired|0 My attitude is a direct response to your flippant dismissal of facemask use When peoples health are at stake we cannot let false and harmful information propagate unchallenged First Im talking about the regular person in a public setting and NOT other settings You are trying to move the goal post again now Why dont you give a clear definition of what you consider a public setting and cite a study that investigates the effectiveness of facemask use in that setting then If none of the studies brought up in this thread actually meet your public setting requirement then what are you citing them for And appear is not are You are just grasping at straws now I wrote the word appear in association with the surgical mask vs N95 study and that study is completely irrelevant to whether facemask use can prevent infections because it did not contain a nomask use control groupCall me rude all you want but it does not change the fact that you were wrong and your false claim about facemask use is still the third post down from the top of this thread People who read your post and accept your claims due to your verified epidemiologist flair can actually get sick and die from an illness that might otherwise have been prevented with facemask useIn the meantime you are still worried about saving face and asking for decorum when you have continued to drag your feet and have not directly addressed the issue of facemask effectiveness If you want to earn the respect that would justify politeness then you should demonstrate your integrity by retracting your false claim now|0 If it makes you feel better the person on register probably was ready to cry as well after this week of chaos If you ever see her again strike up a conversation Im sure youll get another chance |1 I mean Ive been called a selfish asshole for wanting to get the virus and hurry up herd immunity specifically so that I can go to work pay taxes spend money at local businesses etc Apparently wanting to pull my weight as a young and healthy individual is now morally repugnantIm sorry if I sound cynical for my concern about the runaway bus careening towards the edge of a fiscal cliff that is our economy right now I have to remind people that my income is protected and I could easily veg out and watch TV with my kids for a few months or play with them or teach them cool stuffMy opposition to mass social lockdown isnt about me at all Ill be fine in an indefinite quarantine situation This will wipe out the livelihoods of millions of small business owners and swallow up any hope for the working class I know people who saved diligently for years who are being wiped out right now Just wiped off the map financially and they never had a lot to begin withI finally had to gently push back against a family friend today who dropped a better safe than sorry in casual conversation about the virus I had to remind her that no it is actually possible to cause the train that is modern society to derail by pushing it too hard in the other direction of excessive caution|1 Devils Advocate if the surgery is to correct a breathing dysfunction than it may be be viewed as essential|0 A governor that doesnt serve the people should be removed This is a travesty|0 There is something fundamentally different with statistics of Germany as there is no death cases and only few seriouscritical I would guess in Italy and Wuhan there were maybe 10x more infected people at that time than now in Germany just not tested yet and in combination with lost chains of infection that lead to application of quarantine zones Would be very interesting to get more information about testing in Germany from insider specifically about vast of testing and how severe should be ones condition to get tested|0 God that would be horrible Couldnt this be from the inaccurate nature of the current testing|0 Thanks for the heads up|1 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 The media is starting to cover it I see it on the news and online all the time The CDC is saying theyre preparing for outbreaks possibly well into next year but they arent sure how widespread their tones suggests widespread and when exactly A lot is still unknown about this virus also You need to look at it from more than OMG Im so freaked out the media should only cover this and nothing else point of view If they did everyone would panic and will make any sort of preparations exponentially more difficult Not to mention the additional stress and anxiety this will bring to the general public will not help anything and only make matters worse They need to study this more and come up with the right response This is very delicate situation that needs careful and rational planning Im not sure what you expect the governments to do 99 of the cases until this date are in China|0 Today I wore a mask to school which is also cancelled from tomorrow on here in Spain I was the only person in the city wearing one and on two instances I was mocked for wearing it by people making fake coughing noises People arent taking this seriously at all with more than 2200 cases and growing exponentially|0 Certainly you piqued mine too|1 Drowning in your own fluids sound aweful and Im sure it is but its actually a common way to go Your body gets so weak that it cant cough up the mucus in your lungs Usually in a western country you will be situated in a hospital and be heavily medicated and not feel much But still even if he does catch the virus and die from pneumonia it doesnt mean it is any worse than how he would die if he doesnt And at that age it doesnt matter how good health he is in It can happen tomorrow|0 How is there a crisis with only 1 infected patient|0 Oh dear So very sad|0 Sadly yes We may have certainly been spreading lot longer than we even knew we were and are only now seeing the predicted exponential rise of cases because the virus has a name and can be better tracked now|1 But what is said is like 90 trueIts like saying you arent a doctor so a tumor cant be badYour logic is |1 They might be vaccinated against COVID19 Trump shows no fear so his administration|0 Thought I would share my positive experience in getting tested in upstate newyork I fell ill and in a few days decided to go to my doctors about it I went during walkin hours and got in a room fairly quickly They did all the basic tests they could there flu and strep both of witch came back negative so I went to get bloodwork done Got results back in a day when my doctor called with nothing standing out she said that I should get tested for corona They faxed over my info to one of the 3 testing facilities in the area I got there the same day waited a few minutes outside and went in and got tested almost right away That was Friday Im still waiting on results the turnaround seams to be 35 days|0 They just have Florida virtual school but I would need to withdrawal her from her current school altogether which I would like her to be able to return to after its all over Ill have to look into it|0 You think you can solve things for everyone eh You cant|1 Really hoping thats the case|1 There is kind of a scare at the moment in Dublin due to the first case being confirmed in Dublin the other day so people are taking a lot of precautions to ensure the spreading of the virus is low I dont think its anything to do with the news though|0 He did make the logical leap Problem is lung gets literally scraped If you forget that fucking word then you are not looking at shit logical Stop A ear infection is done by putting cotton sticks too far up your ear for 90 of the time Bronchitis can be avoided a bit more by not eating chemically induced food such as veggies fresh from a supermarket or something Yes some chemicals used in veggies etc are able to indice bronchitis etc I will not give up a source for people who are too lazy to do anything theirselves and just mock every single fucking person om the internet as they fucking please|0 I completely agree that its stupid I just wanted to add that there is a statewide plan at least as I understand it|0 The RKI said in their press conference today that Germany had a testing capacity of 160000 testsweek with the prospect of scaling up which match Spahns federal health minister number42 min herehttpstwittercomphoenixdestatus1239838985217658882|1 ive been ready since january 2017|1 Health departments in Harris County Houston and Fort Bend County released a statement saying they will not disclose the number of patients they have tested until this point claiming the information would lead to misinformation which can create unnecessary often confused alarmed public reaction|0 I said this as soon as thai stopped reporting confirmed cases Shouldve stopped travel immediately at that point Especially with how many wuhan travelers were already in that country|0 Its killdeath ratio is really shit though|0 If they arent seeing transmission there it could be because the climate there is warm and dry which is the opposite of the conditions this virus needs to thrive That might mean things will get better for the northern hemisphere as the weather warms But sadly I think its more likely that they just arent testing people|1 Start saving as much money as possible Also try to live frugally to save as much money as possible|1 Lol the right tries to stop teaching evolution just like the left tries to stop teaching biology|1 Yes like the return of measles due to antivax conspiracists httpswwwnbcnewscomhealthhealthnewsvisitorsdisneylandcaliforniamayhavebeenexposedmeaslesn1070831|1 And since when has an actual human being ever run for Parliament Or gotten anywhere before the incumbent parasites threw them under the buss Weve only had universal suffrage for less than 100 years we havent even reached one whole generation of any democratic control|0 Because they wanted to prove that everything is fine|1 Use reverse psychology and ask her if shes made a will and if shes already figured arrangements for someone to take care of her kids pets in case she doesnt return Also if she cancels she can probably rebook the flight in December at 12 the price cause you know that stuff is going to get cheaper|1 Thank you Im sure everything will be fine but I just have to stress and overthink about all of the horrible things that could go wrong I guess lmao|0 Thats why its called the novel coronavirus|1 Yea but they dont eat fuckin bats or pangolins lmao What a terrible comparison|1 They say Brits dont panic They keep their calm and carry on no matter what happensI am a foreigner living in the UK and I am shocked Even my little crazy country is closing schools and telling people to stay in for the sake of everyone else To us UKs strategy looks like a cull|1 Well said|1 Hmm no they shut down the school system in the north first then proceeded to do national closures all over Italy last week|0 Did you actively look|1 Its such a bummer Hang in there|0 I dont know anything about biology so how does a healthy body lose immunity in 3 years Not like our white cells will forget about it does it Or is it because the virus mutates in 3 to 5 years|0 Bed Bath Beyond sells aloe Vera infused gloves Great for cracked hands|1 They cant all be empty|1 Think of Japan One of the oldest nations on earth This would devastate them|0 Using 2015 data Thats a bit old no|0 Yep Thats why we need Medicare for all We need it so incredibly badly We are about to be the country China bans from its shores|0 Do we have any idea how bad the scarring of the lungs is from moderately mild or not quite severe cases people recovered fromTrying to understand the ramifications of infection at any level Im in Vietnam and this thing is all over and around us I doubt my family would die Of course its anyones guess but based on the data I think we would be part of the group who recovers Not sure about permanent scarring of the lungs tho and Ive heard this rumour about being infertile Trying to get clear on what the real data shows|0 I believe the CDC is refusing to test anyone who hasnt been to China or has had direct contact with a confirmed individual besides the CDC is more of a research centere than a testing lab|0 Very true|1 Compound 21 also known as M024 is a AT2 receptor agonist Many people will be familiar with AT1 receptor antagonist antihypertensive drugs saratans The action of Angiotensin II at AT1 receptors is a major target for cardiovascular drugs Activation of AT2 has effects in opposition tothat counteract activation of AT1 AT1 antagonists are used as antihypertensives AT2 agonists are studied for the same and other purposes Its name is as follows Butyl 341Himidazol1ylmethylphenyl5isobutyl2thienylsulfonylcarbamateIts SMILES is OCOCCCCNSOC1CC2CCCCN3CCNC3CC2CCCCCCS1OPaste the above into Chemspiderhttpwwwchemspidercom and it will draw you a 2D and 3D structure in the browser window Interesting paper on the treatment of ARDS which could be useful in research into treating the severe pneumonia that nCoV sometimes causes However the virus binds to ACE2 the converting enzyme not AT1 or AT2 the receptors for Angiotensins Modification of the expression of AT receptors via drug induced changes to gene expression may have some use in treatment of respiratory diseases as may use of direct agonistsantagonists at these sites However it wont affect viral entry as nCoV S protein binds to ACE2 not AT2 for cell entry Being the proposed site for cell entry modification of ACE2 expression may affect your the course of nCoV diseases ACE2 enzyme as a drug target is a good starting point for therapeutic design Even more so if transgenic ACE2null lab animals can be produced where deletion of ACE2 from the genome protects from nCoV infection while not being detrimental to the previously susceptible to nCoV lab animal then small molecule high binding affinity ACE2 enzyme inhibitors could have potential against nCoV infection essentially acting as nCoV entry inhibitors One would need to answer many questions such as can we find a commercially viable small molecule inhibitor of ACE2 What effect does its inhibition have on the body if this is minimal can we design a small molecule irreversible inhibitor of ACE2 that can be safely given to humans that binds to the enzyme without detaching creating a state of little to no ACE2 function with almost complete ACE2 occupancy If that can be achieved without killing people then it becomes an even better drug target an irreversible inhibitor that also blocks binding of nCoV S protein as the site for this is very probably different than the site for Angiotensin binding they may overlap could be given as both prevention and treatment the body will recycle the inhibited ACE2 enzymes and make new ones which can then be allowed to function by stopping drug treatment once the infection has cleared If some level of ACE2 activity is necessary for survival or its just better and safer for the patient if they keep some ACE2 activity then a reversible inhibitor drug could be designed with the same mechanism of action but that can unbind leaving ACE2 free and active again ie a drug that doesnt destroy the enzyme requiring its removal and recycling Inhibitors of ACE2 could cause its upregualtion the dose of the drug needed to treat would be influenced by how quickly this occursDownregulation of ACE2 would likely not be induced by administration of ACE2 substrates its more likely to be unregulated as the cells produce more of it being required as they detect the effects on their environment of increased Ang I and II which ACE2 transforms into Ang 19 and Ang 17 respectively and possibly other mechanisms All of that is why repurposing old drugs is much much quicker than designing new ones There arent specific ACE2 inhibitors in clinical practice and those that do exist are in labs or on computers around the world with names like M0123456 It was found that targeting ACE with small molecules produced a wide variety of antihypertensive drugs so we have lots of these the ACE inhibitors that many are familiar with names ending in ril usually ACE2 hasnt been a particularly important target until now so unfortunately a wealth small molecules that target nCoV entry via ACE2 arent just hanging around in medical obscurity as they are or were once used as drugs because they werent So new drug design targeting entry at ACE2 is likely to come from newly discovered compounds which are unfortunately the sort of drugs it takes the longest to get from design to the clinic TLDR OP wanted to know what Compound 21 is its name and how to view its structure are at the top of this wall of text I apologise for its length|1 I live in Sun City Amazing of boozers|1 At least you have the selfawareness to acknowledge it Most of the people who said that are still parroting bullshit yellowscare conspiracies|0 Well i mean no shit these people are dying their immune systems are shit at those agesThe elderly that ARE recovering are the outliers not the standardI really wish these titles were clickbaity as fuck unless you read it youll think this applies to everybody that gets sick|0 I cant find any source that says they have tested positive Every source says its a presumed diagnosis and they are waiting on test resultsEdit httpsnewsgovbccareleases2020HLTH0041000304Heres the source from the tweet looks like local testing was done and confirmed it just waiting for additional confirmation Other sources were vague on that|1 I talked to my therapist about exactly this today She said to follow local news outlets and try and avoid the big tabloids That way youre aware of the situation with hopefully less sensationalised media|1 Which is a reality that many people forget If you dont have real problems most of politics is just playing around without having real impactIts kind of heartening to see that when an actual crisis is going on they can switch off the bullshitToday parliament unanimously approved the necessary legislation without any nonsense The opposition the press everyone is full throttle which is impressiveIm a medical student and have paramedic training my dad is an anesthesiologist If we can avert a catastrophe by acting early enough even though in retrospect everything will seem too late it affects me and my family personally|0 The article doesnt say when he potentially got infected|0 Thank you We are staying on different floors and Im being as vigilant as possible in common areas and beforewhile going outside|1 God yes I want coachella to be canceled so bad even if the younger crowd arent too affected by it theyll go back home and affect the surrounding vulnerable population|0 Ohio is saying they have 100000 cases in the state they believe If true that means this is way less deadly than we thought|1 Maybe you mean 40 but 25 because all my friends Im 25 are taking this as a joke and booking cheap flights around the world within the next 34 weeks|1 It means what I want it to mean|1 People coming back from China recently most certainly should selfquarantine Even if they were super careful where they were living airports are a hot zone right now|1 so is it serious now|0 I think a lot of them are sociopathic They are keenly aware of other people response or feelings but fundamentally they dont care|0 I think the wisdom of We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism ranks higher especially considering the shortage of medical supplies and essential medications that were at risk of thanks to Chinas manufacturing shutdown|1 exactly I dont know if you know this but a lot of apartments arent the high class dream living space you think they are They can also be not so great places that rent to anyone The apartments 2 miles down the street from me in Houston flood everytime Houston floods The downstairs apartments there are almost free because of it|0 Even if lets say for arguments sake the fatality rate is 7 thats a 93 recovery rate if Im understanding correctly Ive heard about 80 of people will recover Anyways If you had cancer and a doc said hey man your survival rate is about 8093 youd probably be happy with those odds lmao I think this is a very serious situation and by no means do I mean to downplay the severity of it but try to keep calm The severity imo is from how contagious it is leading to a lot of deaths in older people and immunocompromised people This overwhelms hospitals which wouldwill lead to deaths simply because there arent enough beds and resources hence the social distancing and quarantines Its to help lessen the effect on hospitals and stuff We also want to be thinking of those in high risk groups and think of others We will more than likely be okay others need us to be responsible for our hygiene and help them out as much as we can |1 China shut down their economy because the virus got out of control which may very well happen here However the virus is currently not out of control So if we shut the economy down now we would have to Keep it shut down for 24 months at the same time thag the whole world entered quarantine Because otherwise you protect yourself but then if every other country keeps letting it spread then youll be infected the second you let everything resume its pathThe truth is that you cant prevent the spread of this except for extreme measures which may be too extreme for this virus its honestly a difficult situation|1 If some people still think the government are for people they are hopelessWe are the tools those politicians and the elite used to make wealth fortune and power|1 Literally the only useful comment on this entire thread|1 Does the dry cough caused by COVID19 have a signature sound Like whooping cough or croup have Thank you|1 Thank you for your kind response I love my job and enjoy going to work every day but the amount of physical contact in the hallways between the kids and inability to constantlyconsistently sanitize all the surfaces they touch think hundreds of kids using a bathroom handrails desks door handles and the cafeteria makes me nervousEveryones best bet for containment is to have as few big gathering in crowded spaces as possible|1 Same here They stole ALL of our N95 masks We have none We are begging other departments for supplies Its absolutely disgusting and the sad part is it was in an area where its employees only But not badge access nor camera covered Sigh|0 More like youre grounded go to your room|1 Panic and paranoia has set in now This is the damage from panicSome people will use it any excuse to have a day offWhen real danger is there the place will be shut down|0 Reselling is actually a good thing IMHO If there is no toilet paper at the store but you can buy it from some guy out of the back of a van for 5 a roll thats a lot better than no toilet paper anywhere I havent seen a lot of reselling The people running the toilet paper factories should be going to three shifts right now and set the prices high to bank some profits If I owned a paper company right now Id be working around the clock to make masks and toilet paperI think the problem we have now isnt resellers so much as absolute idiots When they see theres huge demand for something the store owners Costco should raise prices When consumers see high prices they should buy less of something Wow toilet paper is crazy expensive I guess Ill buy 4 rolls instead of 400Right now the problem isnt resellers its dumbfucks They want to fill their entire SUV with toilet paper Lets go wait in line all day at Costco to fill our SUV with toilet paper Its not smart behavior|0 I would say increased population density increased tourism increase in misinformation and Chinas unwillingness for transparency I was thinking if other countries would have attempted to hide it if it happened to them initially all affects our ability to handle outbreaks Not to mention the healthcare is always at a highdemand lowsupply kind of thing Especially in less developed countries|1 Its too bad that your company shipped its entire supply line to a draconian waste land Maybe if you guys cared enough to stop doing bu business with a country that has muslims in concentration camps youd be better offI feel for the average worker but weve done this to ourselves making china too powerful in the first place|1 FACTS BEFORE FEELINGS Dan is correct If youre a sad sack soy boi or just a snowflake and feel triggered by honesty Youre living in the wrong time period But if you preferIll blow smoke up your ass Youll be fine Dont worry Go to work theyll look out for you and Im confident youll do swell Hows that feel you daffodils that dont wish to take a brief but honest look at whats happening Keep up the good work Dan|1 I came here just to say the same thing Im also anxious that next week when people return from their March break holidays that NB will see its first cases|1 while coughing uncontrollably|0 My family has become self isolated We had 2 confirmed cases in my city when we decided to do so Despite the testing hurdles I feel that Ontario is doing what it can elsewhere to contain the spread Schools public events etc are all closed and many work places implemented work from home when they otherwise would not have allowed it|0 The UK banned chloroquine exports on Feb 28 and Hydroxychloroquine on March 13th httpswwwgovukgovernmentpublicationsmedicinesthatcannotbeparallelexportedfromtheuk They know it could work for sure Same as France is my guess This might mean theyre definitely willing to use it|1 And bullshit gets the presidency Based on the line money talks and bullshit walks|0 These are the current status of the two closedloop environmentsCheongdo Daenam Hospital all patients and employees were tested of confirmed of psychiatric ward employees 9 12 7500 Current deaths confirmed 0 9 000 of confirmed of nonpsychiatric ward employees 0 97 000 of confirmed of admitted psychiatric patients 100 101 9909 Current deaths confirmed 4 100 400 Patient 1 63 M Died in the hospital on Feb 19 confirmed on Feb 20 Patient 2 54 F Confirmed on Feb 21 died in transferred hospital on Feb 21 Patient 3 57 M Confirmed on Feb 19 died in the hospital on Feb 23 Patient 4 59 M Confirmed on Feb 19 died in transferred hospital on Feb 23 of confirmed of admitted general patients 2 46 434 both of them were recently transferred the psychiatric ward due to pneumonia Current deaths confirmed 02 000Diamond Princess 3011 specimens were tested until Feb 20 The initial quarantine period Feb 5 to Feb 19 of total onboard on Feb 5 3711 of disembarked on Feb 20 over 1600 of confirmed Feb 20 of employees Feb 5 82 1045 784 of confirmed Feb 20 of passengers Feb 5 537 2666 2014 of confirmed crews Feb 23 137 Current deaths confirmed 0 137 000 of confirmed passengers Feb 23 554 Current deaths confirmed 3 554 055 Patient 1 87 M Confirmed on Feb 11 died in hospital on Feb 20 Patient 2 84 F Confirmed on Feb 12 died in hospital on Feb 20 Patient 3 80s M one of the first group of people developing symptoms died in hospital on Feb 23Note that both cohorts do not represent general population far from it Although the hospital employees and the cruise ship crews are somewhat close to general population As an example this is an age distribution of the cruise ship passengers and crews 010 16 1019 23 2029 347 3039 428 4049 334 5059 398 6069 923 7079 1015 8089 216 9099 11|0 Jesus thats really fucking scary|0 In the early stages it would be smart to test people to get a better idea on actual death rate possibilites Right now theres 100 confirmed US cases and 9 deaths Naturally we would have a significant number more of cases if we were just testing people Additionally testing shouldnt be only done at the ERs We need all doctors with the simple capabilities to run tests The name of the game is to try and slow this down as much as possible Im 30 and in good health I didnt go because I was worried about dying it was as a precaution for me to contact anyone Ive made contact with so theyre aware they could have it And for me to be extra aware of things like breathing issues if it was confirmed|1 And I think you may have missed his point which is that currently has nothing to do with it|0 Out of curiosity would a positive test change the treatment of whatever she has She has the symptoms she has no matter if she tests positive or negative I wonder what these tests would actually change other than the statistics of confirmed infections or possibly the priorityIm sure this is a dumbass comment but im not known as the smartest guy|1 true however los alamos mapping of last years us seasonal influenza was closest among their peercompetitors and they were eerily accurate in their projections of the SARS 80 similarities to COVID outbreak in toronto specifically the peak timing and the number of those who would become infected i presume this might be why were still looking to them for accuracy over the rest i do find it odd that theyre so much higher it raises the question of whether theyre off the mark or are the lesser credible mappers further from the true total kinda fucked we wont know until its all said and done|0 Id almost never recommend mass riots|1 No clue why nobody has mentioned the presence of this nontrivial vaccineinduced enhancement So many official keep saying a vaccine is months away but they are failing to comment on the fact that many MERSSARS vaccines failed miserably for this reason Obviously there is a lot of money to be made so development is in turbodrive but this could significantly prolong the timeline compared to routine influenza vaccine Also due to this increased timeline we dont know if the virus will be mutated enough to make the vaccine ineffective by the time it is released The flu only a year later is able to reinfect people who got last years vaccine So we may need to temper our expectations of a vaccine within the next year At some point im sure they will find the right part of the virus that is conserved though many generations doesnt make your infection worse and improves your immunity Only issue is it may not be in the immediate future one of the reasons antiviral research is just as important at this time|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Not sure what is scarierHerpesstyle latent reoccurance CoronavirusOr able to get it again every few years like the Flu CoronavirusHopefully its a one and done and we can somehow slow it down a bunch until a vaccine comes out next year|0 The guy left it for only 5 people and theyre splitting it for 13thats even nicer|1 Very nice thank you|1 Unfortunately the rest of your life will be about a month and youll spend most of it with double pnemonia unable to get a decent breathe of air Um that wasnt in the brochure|0 That people see what the problem is we are facing And that they are ready to take part in somewhat drastic actions like partialshutdowns|1 Everyone stop with the false assumptions The article simply says it started somewhere OTHER than the market Devils advocate here but it could have started in a cave Or another market Or another city Dont jump to the conclusion that it came from the bio lab just because the lab was 235meters away and because thats the most obvious link and because the Chinese response was so aggressive which could have been made logicially with the preknowledge that it HAD escaped from the bio lab So without proof all we know is that it didnt start at the market and without followon information we dont know where it started at all|0 Tbf theres nothing risky about going out and getting more exercise The issue is congregating or touching which isnt really required for pokego|1 How nice My country only tests if youre basically almost dead|0 Are there any nations trying to discover a cure and if so are we closeAnd do you think there is the possibility of another Great depressionRecession with economies becoming stifled such as Italy who is a member of the G7|1 Im 24 and my health anxiety has shot back in a damn heartbeat been waking up all week in a mass panic and scared Ill get it it Im introverted when not at work so i do barely leave the house anyway However I do work in a shop and Im pretty much guranteed to get it imo with the amount of people going in and out Yeah anxiety this year with this g a d has probably near enough ruined my damn life up to now |0 Thats why we all need to spam barsarepacked with this picture httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh06s2whatflatteningthecurveactuallylookslike|0 I went to Target yesterday and one of your employees licked their fingers to get a plastic sack to open Youve got bigger problems than masks|0 Yeah something like that The antibodies essentially mark the target for destruction They can also prevent the virus from entering our cells if enough of them coat the surface Our bodies will usually begin producing them naturally a few weeks after the infection starts But for a lethal pathogen the patient might die before the body gets a chance to catch up|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Excellent point|1 N95 masks can be worn multiple times if you take extreme care when wearing them Here are guidelines from the CDC on extended wear limited reuse for N95 masks httpswwwcdcgovnioshtopicshcwcontrolsrecommendedguidanceextusehtml Like you pointed out disinfecting in a microwave is absurd and almost certainly going to break down the mask or destroy the valve|1 How about we give a medal to the dead Dr who the CCP punished and probably killed let die for trying to educate his community on the outbreak|0 Idk about you but Im hearing about the virus like 10 times per day|1 I dont know about that But it looks like we are following the same grave mistakes of past epidemicssource httparchiveissj1qK|0 In my admittedly anecdotal observation full recovery from nonwalking pneumonia can take over a month And thats with antibiotics for bacterial Mild cases probably take 2 weeks but those moderate and severe are going to take longer|0 True ESU professors told us that they may have to do online lectures after spring break|1 And the US President is on live TV right now saying hes not concerned about being exposed to others because he shows no symptoms|0 Are you a friend of Mike H will become ubiquitous Or some other big word|1 Good point But it wont be just one bailout After enough bailouts theyll consider stopping eventually Tesla is too strong|1 Let us know how your friend does with the Illness Is she still super sick Let me know|1 In the meantime shops are closing and the economy is slowing down Once everything goes normal again most of us wont be able to pay Im italian and Ive seen this happening everytime there is an emergency ie earthquakes everything gets suspended but nobody can pay afterwards This is not the solution|0 People arguing that it might not just be an artifact of greater testing but that does not mean the converse is not truePlaces such as the US where people are very reluctant to go to the doctor because they cant afford the medical bills and they dont get paid time off so they cant afford missing work will undercount it|0 I knoooow dude Thats what keeps going around in my mind Its easy to pretend 1 in 100 is small when you dont take the time to do the math Its crazy how time and time again humanity proves it doesnt learn from history The way a virus can grow and spread exponentially is being pretty much ignored by the public as well as the fact it could evolve and mutate into something much worse Ive said it many times in this sub Im sure Ill say it many more We dont need to panic but spreading bullshit like its just the flu isnt a logical response to this either I would rather look like a paranoid fool at the end of this than lose anyone I loved because I was being a selfish and careless asshole|0 Observed R0 of only 04 with that much close contact Thats very good news right|1 Where do you get 7 death rate The actually results are skewed by the fact that the first several dozen cases in King County were elderly A 13 fatality rate seems more reasonable|0 Wait what is this a dream An illusionOr am I in hell|0 Everyone post ur employer and lets have redditors scold them via email and telephone|0 well at least they have this ability Imaging it started from UK or Italy or Australia or any country dont mean to finger pointing any specific country what redemption they can do to save the faceAnd Rome is not most popular place for Chinese tourist Let alone httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusitalyscientistscoronavirusmayhavereacheditalyfromgermanyscientistssayidUSKBN20Y35BhttpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusitalyscientistscoronavirusmayhavereacheditalyfromgermanyscientistssayidUSKBN20Y35B|1 Its 200 sq feet Like a good sized room Boredom would be a bigger issue|1 He is clearly a puppet|1 Im curious about this article httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030620031880v1 If Im interpreting it right it says in the United States as of March 1st Assuming current preventive procedures have reduced 25 of the transmissibility in unidentified cases the number of infected cases would be 1043 or up to a most likely 9484 if no intervention procedure had been taken to reduce the transmissibility in unidentified cases Have there been intervention procedures I saw another article indicating infections are probably doubling about once every what 3 days 5 dayshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTemplate2019E2809320coronavirusoutbreakdataWHOsituationreports Another articlehttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19RelativeSensitivityInternationalCasespdf indicates that in some places about 63 to 73 of cases go undetected Its March 10 now The US still shows only 808 cases on the Johns Hopkins map Does this really mean the United States could have like 40000 cases right now Or does it have 1280 I feel like I have to be missing something Can someone explain it to me|1 This is unbiased fear mongering Cant believe people are getting this bent out of shape thinking entire US cities will fall|0 Thatll be why China is not getting a lot comparatively of new cases Theyre not testing have not enough tests kits not enough time to check the tests or running out of giveashits and of course Chinese number accuracy is always awesome|1 I pray you dont have many cases I am visiting Portugal next month|1 I mean with a death rate of 2 percent and a fairly decent immune system Im confident that if I get it Ill be fine It might be a shitty couple weeks but in the end Ill be fineI can see why someone who is elderly or a mother with an infant or someone who is immunocompromised might be concerned though|0 Kings college hospital had two inpatients on a ward for at least a week before being diagnosed so I dont doubt that its being left out of the media I imagine well see large clusters around hospitals soon seeing as it spreads through hospitals like wildfire|1 Also This is case fatality rate Infection fatality rate likely lower but to be determined after determining the size of the iceberg as they say|0 Kinda depends on what youre willing to endure With megadosing its really only effective within the first 24hrs of an infection Since youre already sick I wouldnt megadose save the esterc for COVID That said it wouldnt hurt to take a few grams a day until it clears upNext time the second you start to feel cold or flu symptoms cough sore throat etc start megadosing immediately I keep a bottle at work and at home so I can do this Then keep taking it every 3060 minutes until you reach bowel tolerance Then back off slightly 1g every hour and continue megadosing until symptoms go away Ive literally knocked out a cold within 48hrs of getting it by doing this Its incredible For the night time youre going to have to stop because you must sleep sleep is incredibly important to the immune system That said keep a few grams at your bedside just in case you wake up to use the restroom or whatever Doesnt hurt to take it in the middle of the nightEdit btw if you google vitamin c megadosing youre likely to run into a bunch of MSM stories calling it nonsense and the man who created the protocol a 2x Nobel prize winner a quack However not a single vitamin c study has ever followed the protocol and its effects Not one All of the studies on vitamin c range from 1g to 5g a day in megadosing this is insufficient You have to take it until bowel tolerance and continue for 2448hrs This is probably because macrophages the first line of defense in infections typically only do their jobs for 2448hrs before other WBCs take over with antibodies The thinking is give macrophages tons of sustained vitamin C for 2448hrs and theyre likely to knock out viral replication What youre really doing is reducing the viral load until antibodies can come in and clean up the rest of the virus Ie your buying your immune system more time to develop antibodies before the virus overwhelms it and dramatically slowing replication if the virus via vitamin c antioxidant activity and boosting macrophagesVitamin C is not patented What possible motive would a 2x Nobel prize winner have to promote something he had no financial interest in However drug companies have incredible financial incentives to cast doubt on megadosing and fund poorly designed vitamin c studies|1 Fuckwit should be facing charges of some kind|1 The virus can resurface once somes immune system gets run down so what will they do to monitor the infection but recovered|1 not sure I follow but keep me posted|0 There was a 12day delay between the decision to lock down the city and the slow down So were looking at 2 weeks until we see an effect in Italy Thats thousands of deaths|0 Good thing you didnt dishonestly skip them Whatever that means|1 Yeah I think he said that today and my heart sank Every one owes it to themselves to watch his vids immediately|1 just a flu|0 Well find out for sure for sure if he decides to not televise his orangeness in the next week or so|1 Lol|1 Same here in Texas Hurricane Harvey was childs play compared to this|1 Who said we were any better lol|1 TIL the meaning of corollary Thanks|1 Nah this is your mom|0 We are fucked There are 77 known cases where I live I dont think anyone realizes how bad this is going to get|0 As of now Wuhan has 2413 deaths from coronavirus In 2018 the total deaths in Wuhan over the course of the year is 47900 which means about 4000 deaths a month on average Abnormally high level of deaths definitely exists for other illnesses due to delayed healthcare in Jan and Feb China cremates all bodies thats the regulation cremation except for special circumstances We are looking at at least 1011k bodies for January and February at the minimum to be cremated Burning thousands of bodies is entirely consistent with official numbers Not saying Chinese numbers are totally trustworthy but the one point of conspiracy theory you raise is indeed true and exactly what the official numbers say|1 Im not saying that this isnt terrifying but thats the most Plague Inc headline Ive ever read in real life so far|1 Por que no los dos|0 Lots of private jets flying in thenVery well could be Im not familiar with Switzerland all I know is its a beautiful country for the most part Seems like a good place to isolate yourself I do wonder what the rich and powerful are running to|1 I think putting people on oxygen isnt going up be the big issue in this situation unless oxygen deliveries become short The subset of patients that require intubation are going to require a ventilator which are already in short supply this time of year with the flu and a lot more attention from care providers to have a good outcome|1 BTW the top of the dropdown menu is also a search field You can search for stuff|1 What sucks is a lot of these petitions and news articles dont help or think bout some of the people that will need it most those that live within lower income areas that can only work retail jobs that offer no form of work from home no sick pay and no other options There are a lot of workers over here that work at places like Walmart and local gas stations that look to be 50 some with obvious health conditions I really fear for them|0 Corrected thank you|1 Los Angeles here Stores are wiped but even more interesting to me is when you pass someone walking on the street they walk up onto someones lawn to create distance as you pass or they keep their normal trajectory and hold their breath as we pass Wild|1 Dont worry there are a ton of Division Agents in that city|1 This is magnificentEdit Unfortunately|0 Alternatively and I dont say this to freak you out just to be realistic you could already have it or contract it before going and then you would be spreading it around possibly without knowing it|0 I was thinking of a fire analogy today Its as if most of the country is saying were panicking for wanting to move quickly toward the exit of the burning building while they say Youre being ridiculous Fires happen every day Im taking a nap on the couch|0 Too ma y people are overlooking the fact that is kits per day They are expecting one of two things that will happen that they will need to test that many a day which is insane and is a asign it is much worse than noted Or they are expecting their manufacturing capacity to go down either way it is not good|0 Yeap I wear an N95 mask on the airport now and I noticed several times I wanted unconsciously move my palm to my face but before I started my brain realized that I have a mask on my face I cant touch my face My hand did not move a millimeter up at all All happened in my brain Weird experience DDDD|1 Folding doesnt recognize my Macs GPU That sucks|0 lol the fact that you can have it and be fine is not scary its awesome I bet almost everyone here is positive for CMV and yet youd never have any idea|1 Classic match hahaha was 4 days ago|1 Man that guy must be doing a terrible job since I keep seeing people post antichina news that are in line with creating division dissent and distrust toward the ability of the government to govern its citizens|0 Great place to catch it and die of it|1 We have about two weeks until the US runs out of beds and the death rate from this skyrocketsEdit httpsmediumcomtrentmc0whendoeshospitalcapacitygetoverwhelmedinusagermanya06cf2835f89|0 I have a feeling the classified info is satellite videosphotos showing exactly whats going on in China They know whats going on from intel They also know we have to keep people from panicking|0 Show me one government agency or healthcare organization that advocates denying care to someone based on what you describedIts literally the antithesis of the Hippocratic Oath and any doctor or healthcare professional would be stripped of their practice if not criminally prosecuted for doing what you described|1 True Given a cruise ships small space enclosed environment and ventilation system it will spread much faster than everyones typical daily environment The ship would be a worst case scenario of spreading which is not even close to average case scenarios I wouldnt be surprised if everyone on the ship gets infected very quickly since they are all locked up in there|0 Quit Youll get another job especially when the system starts collapsing Hospitals will be desperate for you|0 Or theyre just mouthbreather dumbfuck idiots like Trumps base that think theres gonna be a miracle to spare the US any moment now|1 Not fun being the parents to your parents is it I feel like my parents are getting me back for all the times I made them worry about me I hope your parents return with no additional health issues|0 You are right that a smaller number of people under 60 are dying But plenty of younger people are requiring hospitalization Also if this virus spreads too much we will see more young people dying andor getting hospitalized Look the scientists and medical professionals are the people Im trusting on this one|1 British global treasure |1 Yeah Doctors are experts in everythingEspecially diseases they havent ever met b4 theres no history of no vaccine not enuf tests confusing infoThey thoughtbthey understood nutrition and told the western public that eating fat makes u fat40 yrs and a continent with heart disease as leading cause of non violent death they start to listen to nutritionists about unhealthy fatsLast person I look to in this particular case of flu is them|0 Selfishness and narcissism doesnt go away in a pandemic Terrible people on a good day will be just as terrible on a bad one|0 Yeah but i guess youd assume the spread would be similar across age ranges I havent yet heard of many child deaths but have heard of a lot of older deaths|1 Coronavirus is a blessing in disguise Corporate culture is shifting rapidly|1 Your post has been removed because of a persistent pattern of behaviorThis may include but is not limited to Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing way|1 I havent heard reports of the virus being airborne that would be huge newsIt currently probably doesnt have much air time like hairs on the virus|1 I have fabric washable masks that have replaceable n95 quality filters in them and like 40 filters Im in the Bay Area and wore them when we had the smoke from Napa Would it be a good idea to wear them when we have to go out in public Its probably better than nothing|1 And wait till the prison guards and prisoners are infected Prisons aint gonna run by themselves Choices will have to be made|0 Im routinely seeing people claim that 100 of the population of the United States will contract COVID19 and that 10 will die from itSome perspective Chinas response to COVID19 was really terribly slow and yet only 04 of the Wuhan metro area got infected The United States has had two months to prepare took steps early to minimize infected people coming into the country to spread it and has a far far better standard of medical care Theres a lot of cultural differences as well nearly all of them favoring the United StatesAnyway if you read the article Id call it a blurb it doesnt even say that denial is worse than panic just more prevalent Its got nothing to do with medicine or science anyway its an thing by journalists for other journalists|0 The window to recall excess military forces from abroad and bring them home to protect out homeland is closing fast I am not sure the national guard is going to be able to handle all that will be needed no offense|0 Good point|1 Take a day offDoesnt hurt youll see that nothing changed that much and in the future will be nice to have a rest|0 People are already getting exhausted from it|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Commissar Chang theres a virus killing thousands what should we doCover it up let it get abroad that way we wont have to deal with this alone and afterwards well be the strongestBrilliant ideaThis country massacred 10000 of its own people in the street and currently massacres the Uighurs Tibetans and Mongolians in several of its provinces In total they have killed 50000000 ethnic minorities over the CCPs reignNuke them Worse than Nazi Germany and we did a lot of damage there Flattened Hamburg Berlin Dresden Cologne and many more|0 I cant believe that politicians become so idiot and try to kill lots of people|0 Exact same as a flu swab I also had a test Thursday|0 This Seems like hes changed his tune He affirmed many times in his previous videos that we need to be proactive and not reactive and now the government have revealed their plan to basically be inactive and hes not even questioning it Wth|1 Is fever considered anything above 986 or is it the 1004 definition of significant fever or something else|1 If this isnt sarcasm Im not sure what is|0 Call your state senator or congressman or whoever you guys call and demand that they immediately start a surgical mask manufacturing lineTaiwan Hong Kong and China did exactly that within the first month of the lockdown because even in their own manufacturing house of a country they had shortages|0 Other hospital workers are reporting theyre not allowed PPE personal protective gear Id they dont have direct patient contact Even though they may frequent sick areas I work in the hospital doing PT and were told were not allowed to wear masks right now No mask or you go home But well also write you up for using sick timeIm not essential staff Not truly on the front line But business is business because there are only a hand full of cases in our county But no ones being tested We dont know how far it has spread Typical Americans reactive instead of proactive|0 Universities are still open in Quebec and have currently not indicated plans on closing Which is especially bad in Montreal since many major universities are in the downtown core and literally attached to mass transit systemsBasically the advice to university students is that the risk is low wash your hands and if you need to miss an assignmentexam then work it out with your prof yourself In other words they are just hoping to get lucky and avoid an outbreak right now|0 I cant believe anyone is even willing to get on a cruise ship right now That alone is mindbogging to me|0 It will be ready for animal testing not human testing|1 Or working stupid long hours|0 Thank you very much for your input The uncertainty is so great that it would be bigger than the entire chart as it is now Im afraid I will definitely keep that in mind though Here is a sneak peak of how the charts will look from now on using the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 I will need to add that the different classes of virus and behave differently as well Thank you again httpsimgurcomacUlFCpnhttpsimgurcomacUlFCpn|1 There is evidence that we are in fact not in an early stage but that it has been spreading unnoticed The phylogenetic data on httpsnextstrainorgncovlabelcladeA2httpsnextstrainorgncovlabelcladeA2 concerning the clade with the first ever reported case in Munich Webasto employee in January and the Italian cluster that lead to further spread to Germany Switzerland Finland Netherlands etc are closely related This RNA anlysis suggests that the first cluster was never fully contained and spread to North Italy Either the Shanghai buisnesswoman infected someone travelling to Italy at the airport or someone else from the cluster wasnt tested or accounted for The relationship between these strains is too close to be a coincidence|0 Ya because its just that easy |1 Agree We knew it was at least as bad as they were conveying I think they downplayed absolute numbers but the character of the data was of pretty good quality Maybe a kind of compromise with their medical professionals and scientists|1 Two weeks later Massive panic overwhelmed healthcare system Thousands of people with influenza storming emergency rooms preventing people with an actual emergency from getting help People are dying from totally preventable causes like mild heart attacks or appendicitis annononohttpswwwredditcomuserannonono if government wouldve been there for us we would have been panicking sooner and killed more people I am so glad that all employees of private companies followed AA employees lead and stop showing up to work and not performing nonemergency services anymore People should be looking out only for themself Who needs those city busses anyway right|0 Im curious about the cruise ship cases I know it isnt the best representation of the human population but could still make a good model due to the contained environment|1 I was in the Vancouver airport 3 weeks ago Ive been down since Thursday with the worst flu Ive had in over 20 years Even my husband whos an ER doctor half heartedly joked that its the corona virus BUT Im feeling a bit though so no need to throw me onto the cart just yet|0 Its going to be democrats are making this political and refusing to cooperate 100|0 Thank you for this|1 Im not claiming nothing burger at all This is a nasty virus People will die What Im claiming is that evidence so far suggests this is mostly dangerous to older people kind of like flu and many other diseasesBut Im gonna need a source on that 400 young medical staff dead claim|0 Why did you get banned|0 Id be shocked if he admitted to testing positive Doesnt fit his narrative But then again hes all over the place It may fit his new narrative of see I got it and Im fine So who knows|1 Put it this way I am currently unemployed I lost my job 2 months ago but there is no work because of corona now I havent eaten or smoked weed in almost a week now I will be homeless at the end of the month as i have no way to make money I have no assets or savings x200BSo here I am in a bad position staring down a pandemic that will destroy my life Or If shit truly hits the fan suddenly ill be allowed to hunt and fish for the food I need Suddenly ill have friends with land who want to hire my services as an armed guard im not even kidding with engineering experience x200BSo if shit hits the fan entirely I get a roof and a job and have sources of food If shit doesnt hit the fan I lose everything I own and end up living on the streets during a pandemic x200Bsad reality for milliosn of people the shit hitting the fan is the better option|0 Maybe theyll care when their base starts shrinking|1 Not necessarily Every current infection outside china receives premium healthcare additionally every doctor at the case is rather fresh compared to the exhausted medics in Hubei|0 If Youtube were a generally unreliable source I must surely have killed my entire family by following thousands of cooking videos on Youtube over the last decade Or with resin fumes from personal projects Or watching Harvard lectures Calling Youtube generally an unreliable source is categorically impossible Youtube is a medium not a source The video creator is the source|0 There are massive ripple effects and interconnected industries For one nothing is being made in China and what is is staying there That alone is enough to topple the house of cards|0 Not too surprised At least they are honest about it beforehand no We could use that at least at this point|1 Listen If youre a government official in NYC and not well hated youre doing something wrong|0 Could you imagine 1 of Americans dropping dead in the next year|0 I feel like Im talking to myself I may have written that exact same question at some point I think the answer is yes its very possible thats the case some would probably argue even that it is likely Its still also very possible that it explodes and kills many people while still having a lower CFR than currently estimated|0 They have like 1 mortality rate That would imply Italy has 40 000 infected which would fit this data too sampling bias means were seeing around 30 of all infected But their health system cant redirect its already peaking We might see more deaths in Italy than China|0 Thank you everyone for your outpouringthey are Americans of Persian descent My aunt is definitely feeling better now that shes off the ship and her fever has broken My uncle however has full blown pneumonia His lungs are not looking good They are both FLOORED by how much more care theyve received in a Japanese hospital The level of professionalism the way they dont seem like theyre working for a paycheck this is what my aunt said on the phone AND most of all they feel listened to There is currently nothing like antivirals They are just trying to keep the fever down with meds and they are taking vitamin C Theres not a whole lot they can do but since they dont know much about the virus Crossing my fingers they are home soon|1 Theres no legal classification of these items as sensitive items Its just the proBeijing logistics companies perhaps USbased refusing to take them on Completely by choiceMaybe thats why my order is being filled through Thailand|0 You can buy UV bulbs off of Amazon Read the warning information|0 FedEx called and texted my FIL in advance about the need to pay a duty The package cleared customs the same day it arrived in China and was delivered the next day My FIL was able to pay the customs duty electronically at delivery FedEx told me the package was actually delayed a day later than expected because it missed an earlier connecting fight from Anchorage to Shanghai and they only run one a day Still it made the guaranteed delivery date|0 When I tried to use the mobile version of this site a few days ago everything loaded with no data except for the 50k recoveries lol|1 Great thanks|1 Keep telling yourself that I totally forgot that the doctors on the forefront of treating the virus totally didnt die from it|1 If the government had given emergency loans to grocers they could have ordered to meet the demand|0 Im glad hes changing his tune but I also think he owes your wife an apology|1 When ticklemeElmo came out people freaked out when they were sold out|0 Literally every president has contributed to death in some way Whether it be through wars foreign or domestic policies Yet youre not calling for the death of Obama after all the horrible undercover drone strikes he ordered and all the war|0 staythefuckhome is a better movement IMO|1 China is pretty much the most hated country after this|0 Youre right but people dont like it They have to do it this way|0 This is the problem though so many people usually have a cold at this time of year we can not test everyone with a cough just in case Theyre being asked to self isolate and if it starts getting bad then we can do further testing were going to need money and medical supplies for the really sick people Were as isolated as we can be with a kid at school so were just being more careful to reduce touching each other and enforcing hand washing for everyone who returns to the house This article appears as if the patient presented desperately ill and was turned away They were sent home to self isolate as per procedure as far as I could see|0 This is a human rights violation Keeping healthy individuals trapped for an indefinite period of time in a disease infected area Let them isolate in smaller groups not like this|0 Think its time to move my dry food to my room rather than the kitchen Shared house I cannot trust my things not to be stolen more than they already have been I know for a fact my food gets stolen by people as it is but this could just make it worse At least my room is locked Oats and flour seem to be more available in shops than pasta so I will probably be going for that instead Tinned stuff is good too|1 Disclaimer Im sharing this as I think its important and relevant information but please do not misconstrue it in any way as medical advice These are encouraging but tiny results and Im posting this purely in the interest of information and discussion not to imply any efficacy in any way You can find the source case studies in Japanese herehttpwwwkansenshoorjpuploadsfilestopics2019ncovcovid19casereport20030202pdfTranslation of NHK storyThe Japanese Association for Infectious Diseases JAID have published a report on their website detailing the symptomatic improvement and recovery seen following administration of inhalertype medication used in the treatment of asthma to patients suffering from pneumonia as a result of the novel coronavirusThe report is being published to the JAID website by a group which includes Kanagawa prefectural Ashigarakami hospital one of the facilities that has carried out treatment on passengers of the cruiseliner Diamond Princess which saw a mass outbreak of the novel coronavirusAccording to the report three patients suffering pneumonia and confirmed by PCR testing to be infected with the novel coronavirus were administered upon their consent an immunosuppressive inhaled steroid Ciclesonide typically used in the treatment of asthmaOf the three all were over the ages of 65 and though not in critical condition all were receiving supplemental oxygen However after Ciclesonide treatment was administered on February 20th noticeable improvements were seen within two days and a 73yearold female patient has since been discharged in good healthThe clinical group has stated choosing the treatment protocol based on information received from the National Institute of Infectious Diseases with the hope that by aerosol delivery it will prove effective in suppressing the severe inflammation in the lung tissue where the virus prevalently grows The group says that their findings cant yet be fully evaluated with the small number of patients and plans to partner with other healthcare facilities going forward to investigate the results further|1 Well crap I went to a mall where someone had it FML|0 its easy to say I told you so when you have insider information lol thanks for the link should be an interesting watch|1 Fuck you for hoarding that much supply You should be ashamed of being so selfish|0 Sorry but you are dense as lead Perhaps one can speak from observations and experience and not speak about ones own situation I dont run a small business but I know several small business owners personally There is that plain enough for your dogmatic argumentative mind What would it matter anyways|0 To support your positionIt is estimated that 415 million people are living withdiabetes in the world which is estimated to be 1 in 11 of theworldsadult population 46 of people withdiabetesare undiagnosed|1 That looks like a disaster in the making|0 My entire town isnt taking it seriously and thinks the media is hyping it up All surrounding counties have canceled school for 2 weeks and our county still hasnt bc there are no confirmed cases |0 Wired says that mocking conspiracy theories spreads them further|0 If we end up bailing the airlines out with a loan lets all just make sure we hit them with a few unexpected fees that are almost as large as the initial loan Alternatively until they pay it back make all senior airline executives sit in tiny economy seats with no leg room for at least four hours a day every day|0 Also I didnt know about the swimming being helpful I really want to try it now I love to run but I suffer about 20 minutes after But it makes sense now that I think about it I dont think ive ever had an issue after swimming|0 If it got that bad then FEMA or the military would be running field hospitals neither of which would charge you|0 Its not a magical forcefield that filters the air you breathe at least the surgical ones arentI never said that they were But even surgical masks despite being of very little use keeping their wearers from getting sick reduce the likelihood that sick people will infect others We know this because that is their exact function to prevent surgeons from infecting their patients Then at least in theory if we are comparing two populations A a population where most people wear surgical masks and B a population where no one wears surgical masks then its safe to say that an airborne disease like Coronavirus will spread more easily in B than A This is particularly helpful when we have a disease that can infect people asymptomatically because telling people to simply stay home if they feel sick will not stop the spread of the diseaseAnd of course thats just surgical masks N95 masks when properly fit actually protect the wearer as well as others While they may be a bit more than the average person needs I see no reason why people who interact with many others as a part of their job medical professionals taxiuber drivers etc shouldnt have n95s as that may prevent the creation of supercarriers of the diseaseSo I think it is foolish for any government to advise against wearing masks as doing so stigmatizes their use thus making its citizens more vulnerable to an airborne infectious illness as a population|1 thank you updated|1 Im getting second hand embarrassment|1 I dont think they are more important but some people do|1 I went to Aldi Couldnt get any pastaBut I could get a full wet diving suit a MIG welder and a mini trumpet|1 Thankyou for your post It was informative and clear Not all of us are ignorant and hateful I hope all ends well for you and your family|1 it cant be explained any other way there are nonchina countries that have it under control without too much damage or limit of freedom I dont believe that these governments are incapable this seems to be on purpose|1 The limited number of people tested is what remind me the most the maxed out geiger counter|0 Case fatality is deadtotal cases which is what is being cited in journals 4|0 I promise Im not fishing for an argument here but I dont understand the theory you keep mentioningObviously people fleeing to other regions has spread the virus but wouldnt that have been expectedCan you blame people of trying to save themselves and their families Would stay in an area which couldnt help your loved onesI wish I could answer yes to the questions iv posed but I cant and I highly doubt many folk couldAnd no like most of the world we have no shortage of morons|0 coronachan is too hot to miss|0 Same for me We make beds for kids Who is going to buy beds or furniture right now A one or two week stop is pretty reasonable for certain types of non essential production lines|1 Has anyone dis proved the HIV Scare Saw another post about it|0 To put your life in danger for pasta If that isnt worth it|0 I will not have the money to pay my bills They will likely fire my ass|0 Trump is delaying the test kits intentionally because the HHS head is an industry lobbyist More sick people gets more money for the pharmaceutical industry|0 Its like a shitty game of Russian roulette where you just hope youre not the last to fire your sick leave to another person and that is RIGHT Or like extremely rich people should provide for those who made them rich Idk whichever its the same really |1 To those mocking them ask them if they are literally the worlds top virologists or doctors Like seriously this thread really pisses me off It is encouraging bad habits in an already bad situation with COVID19|0 mAsKS dOnT wOrK pRaCtIcE gOoD hYgiEnE|0 Oh ok Thats good info I wrote in on my Doctors message board that my anxiety was not doing too well Maybe this would be a good idea to ask for a prescription|1 Isle of Man here Smaller island to the right of Ireland population approx 84000 Were fucked if it gets here and theres talk of someone in AE in the only hospital on the island having it already that the government hasnt confirmed yet|0 You joke about this but the Dutch government actually reasons that schools should stay open because children are unlikely to transfer the virus when they dont have any symptoms|1 Ya know the Chinese local government in Hubei innitially tried to suppressed the infomation of the Virus But when it got dire in Wuhan central government stepped in and got shit doneAnd after seeing what happen in China and Wuhan after seeing what CCP had done to containt it the US government and CDC still did this to their own country and peopleSorry but I think its actually worse than China|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 The people maybe the government seems content to centralize the wealth with the power|1 Damn right|0 Well that would be a terrible catastrophe Far worse than has happened in China But even if that were true it would likely mean that the US had under 2 million casualties 90 of them would be 60 years or older Thats terrible But its not going to seriously effect civilization|0 Yep I work in a small senior care home and we had to stock up on TP only because everyone else was We felt like assholes but we couldnt risk not being prepared given our population Were rationing hygiene wipes and they cant exactly use anything else like paper towels without risk of skin abrasions And showering ten people who are various degrees of disabled multiple times a day is difficult If people hadnt made runs on stores we couldve kept on only buying a modest amount each week people have to stop and consider what paranoia and profiteering does to others|0 arrogant is the poisonwhy you guys think we can not handle it|0 Nah it will never happ oh|0 Coverage definitely varies between broadcast and web At a minimum this is going to be a substantial blow to economies and business in the foreseeable future|1 The AE I work at has the nurses and doctors running around with visors and gloves as their only PPE Surface disinfectant and hand sanitizer has also more or less run outThe worst part is that hospital management is stating that the visors are effective Which no one understandably really believes|1 Well you are correct in that 3 cases now confirmedA little scared for the future now maybe I was wrong maybe its a mix of being scared into things and seeing people hysterical and the media always pushing it the fearI dont know what the next months hold or whats going to happen to our healthcare system that is already pushed to capacity I am also on 3 medications 1 of which I will die without A lot of people have cases like this I know I am not special in any case and I am thinking of my people as a whole I dont want to accept it but I am starting to prepare and come to terms with what collapses may take place soon|0 Theres been 1 official death outside China the Philippines just reported 1 death|0 And honestly as of right now the virus isnt enough of a threat to take those actions Were not seeing tons of cases outside of China and the ones we have seen seem to be doing fine Its not like its ebola or even SARS at least not with the data we have right now Even if you think the reported numbers are far lower than the real numbers basing your decisions on speculation is just as wrong of a moveThat said I hope more airlines follow suit and more measures are taken to prevent the spread|1 The day when reports start popping up in every US state is the day when all hell will begin to break loose little by little|0 This Ive been posting to anybody who will listen that multiple international tests have been available for over a month The lack of testing in the US is economic and political all about provincialism and not saving lives We could have been testing and getting ahead of this in early Febhttpswww360dxcomcoronavirustesttrackerlaunchedcovid19tests|0 Research war crimes It easily falls under class c warcrimes relating to genocide or knowingly killing others while failing to take safety measure advice by medical personnel|0 I saw people saying that they believe China fakes numbers which is fine But they should not go further with their arguments based on faked numbers Thats ridiculous|0 Masks do have an expiration date Furthermore youre the one making this about masks Trumps whole response has been a massive problem not just the lack of masks Testing has likely been intentionally delayed by his admin to pad the stats and hundreds and maybe thousands will die as a result of lacking contact tracking|0 Theyre going to state labs Should help speed things up|1 Thank you for the request comradeI have looked through clovetts posting history and found 9 Nwords of which 3 were hardRs clovett has said the Nword 2 times since last investigated|1 Typically hydroxychloroquine is the RX for some AI diseases such as Rheumatoid Arthritis Not sure if theres a major difference in the phosphate version In terms of side effects people generally need to take HCHLQ with a meal to avoid upset stomach If someone is on it longterm years and years then they require biannual retinal exams to ensure there is no retinal toxicity Other than that is it gererally a very safe drug Source currently taking it|0 With as few days off as Americans tend to get I cant even really blame them for that Symptom of a messedup system I thinkI used to come in sick because I had 5 sicks days a year more than a lot of people get I know but I knew one bad bout of the flu could easily take up all 5 So I was eternally afraid of running myself short if I actually used them for what they were meant for|0 They had a model Buildings designed to have a stay put strategy which includes Grenfell Tower are not designed and built to facilitate mass emergency evacuation during a fire many for example have a narrow staircase and no common alarm system Telling everyone to leave could cause panic or other accidents and deaths on the way down etc etc SMH|0 No DONT go to work hes a BUFFOON and LIES CONSTANTLY Doctors said that a vaccine wont be available for at least 1215 MONTHS And the million tests here promised also a LIE|0 The University updated that the student tested negative|0 The claim was quickly challenged by an infectious diseases expert who serves on a committee that advises the WHOs health emergencies programGary Kobinger director of the Infectious Disease Research Center at Laval University in Quebec said it would be highly unusual for there not to be mild or symptomfree cases that are being missed He pointed to the fact that outbreaks have popped up in countries far from China including Iran and Italy because people with mild infections were not detected and traveled to other placesThere are mild cases that are undetected This is why its spreading Otherwise it would not be spreading because we would know where those cases are and they would be contained and that would be the end of it said Kobinger who insisted that mild undetected infections cannot be ruled out until people who havent been diagnosed with the illness can be tested for antibodies to the virusThose kinds of tests called serology tests are just becoming available in China Aylward saidAs long as we do not have good serology data I think that it is completely speculative to say that there are no undetected cases Kobinger saidhttpswwwstatnewscom20200225newdatafromchinabuttressfearsabouthighcoronavirusfatalityratewhoexpertsays|0 That will only delay the inevitable|0 Im so sorry This is disgraceful|0 Not sure how much I believe this at least its accuracy countries are even missimg when were these stats collected|0 Are there actually active mods to even apply this|1 President Barack Obama sacked his looselipped Afghanistan commander Wednesday a seismic shift for the US military order in wartime and chose the familiar admired and tightly disciplined Gen David Petraeus to replace him Petraeus architect of the Iraq war turnaround was once again to take handson leadership of a troubled war efforthttpwwwnbcnewscomid37866754nsusnewsmilitarytobamarelievesmcchrystalcommandLoose lips sink ships|0 except the travel ban is for anyone in schengen area in last 14 days they cant fly via uk either way it will slow the spread in US|0 And Everyone will react differently show different symptoms or no symptoms and can just be a carrier|0 because personally i actually believe in a system but the ccp can suck donkey dick|0 Her entire twitter feed is a completely unchecked torrent of stupidity including the screaming about corvid Not worth posting about|0 What we are doing wont last though I give it a week or two and we will be doing same shit wasnt really meant to be political or about what we are doing rightwrong My point was that from data out of China we can take care of it if we take the samesimilar steps It will happen my works already sending ppl to work from home and 1st confirmed case in my city today Dallas|0 Ah wow Where do you live Im an Aussie from WA |1 Thanks|1 Appreciate the info|1 Nobody disagrees that people have come to or left Iran lmfao It does not compare to Italy|1 96 billion people Where is that estimate from It looks like that is the world population estimate for 2050|1 I agree The blue touch paper has been well and truly lit The media are fiddling while Rome burns|1 Its like people who get shitty at mcdonalds for offering healthy meal options|1 Its known by both names people do have it done You need to buy a chamber chemicals and I think it takes 3 days Im not in the industry just a curious person and saw it referenced in an obituary once so I googled|1 Its the W curve And its the second wave by a mutated virus The first wave is a normal season flu more lethal to the young and elderlyI just hope we wont got a second wave in next winter if we can not contained it|1 There is no live torching anything in Indonesia Maybe youre thinking of China fucker|0 I hope you are right but fear you are notThey cant even update 111 with the correct guidelines for those coming from Italy for fucks sake|0 I started a new job 2 months ago and have only just started accumulating sick leave Does this bill grant me more sick leave I work in manufacturing|0 Thank you Best of health to you as well|1 Whyd you link some shit news site giving them a bunch of views instead of just linking the study directly|0 Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise|0 That all seems reasonable In my case I meant hamstringing the preschool by getting money back Theyre already running pretty lean I seemed to have pushed a button unintentionally Im sorry dont let me add to your stress Be well stay safe|1 This is not at all accurate Ive flown OHare many times and its never taken nearly that long Even during the crowded holiday season|1 How significant is this really though We share 50 of our DNA with bananas and 99 with chimps but id never say Im 50 bananas not 99 chimp|1 More info Total confirmed 31506 3526 293 Active cases 26062 2989 519 divided in 11108 911 18 selfquarantine 12894 1869 507 hospitalized 2060 209 30 in ICU Deceased 2503 345 4 Recovered 2941 192 222 Tested 148657 10695 2368|1 The thing is some landlords depend on that tenants income to keep the place Otherwise they lose the whole building|0 Lombardia didnt report new cases but they did report number of deaths|1 Get a bidet for 25 from Amazon|1 Well its gonna be a tough neighborhood with HIV measles and a few other diseases already flooding their hospitals there|1 Yes relative to quite a lot of the world actually|1 People like to fear monger Scared the shit out of me this weekend|1 Those were my symptoms for a few weeks as well as fatigue and chest congestion and pressureI went to the clinic maybe 4 times and they never allowed me to get tested One NP patronized me and claimed it was just allergiesIve never heard of an allergy so strong that it makes the rest of my family start coughing with the same symptoms|1 And yet CNN and most americans believe that the situation in the USA is better than Europe|1 Me and my family are prepared Hope work lets us take our laptops home when this stuff gets bad enough to be a workplace threat|0 In the US that will just see that as more profit It will cost 2000 to get tested|1 Im a server same in my city Was already a couple shifts away from losing my car now out of work for at least a few weeks and unemployment if I even qualify and if I even get it doesnt go through until after a 10 week waiting period Im not gonna leave my house because as you said if faced with getting this virus or losing my car I know which Id prefer But its really unfortunate the lack of support the lower and middle class have in America|0 I think I am done with TimmiesEdit I ignored the whole minimum pay political stance they took last year but they just seem to be a trash company with miserable staff and it has started to show in terms of the product they are serving as well|0 closing schools after the fact or when there are potential infectons is not preemptiveIt will not slow down the silent spreadwhat is meant is that all schools take a breakthat all society slows down tries to take a breakyes this is a major problem for working parents with children make working less possible The economy slows down during summer vacation and winter vacationx200Bcopypasted from my other commentsyes why arent more schools institutions being preemptively being closed for 23 weekscombine these three pieces of information1 httpsmedicalxpresscomnews202003stealthtransmissionfuelsfastcovidhtmlhttpsmedicalxpresscomnews202003stealthtransmissionfuelsfastcovidhtmlThe explosion of COVID19 cases in China was largely driven by individuals with mild limited or no symptoms who went undetected2 httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320028423v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320028423v1 children are at similar risk of infection as the general population though less likely to have severe symptoms hence should be considered in analyses of transmission and control3 httpswwwnaturecomarticlesd4158602000154whttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd4158602000154w Kids are just as likely to get infected and theyre not getting sick says Justin Lessler an infectiousdisease epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore Marylandand it should be a nobrainer that schools take a 2 or 3 week break no|0 Also important to note that idk theyre fucking neighbors Welcome to Reddit statistics where context doesnt matter|1 Damn straight if i could leave now I would except I have so much in scholarship money letting go of my grades would ruin it|0 Sometimes its about how you say things English is not my first language so when writting in the heat of the moment things can be misconstructed I got called racist and that people should still be allowed to travel when in reality what I wanted to say is that chinese citizens with coughs and masks arriving in my country made me anxious Sure got called racist and that people that may not be sick which considering incubation window and everything we dont know if they could be carriers or not when in reality the reason Im worried is because my country aisnt doing much about screening people and bcant contain something like this I live in a third world country when even in an emergency youll wait for hours to be checked at the hospital and then theyll give you an appointment for you to come back in a couple of months Literally today a doctor in my country talked about 2 suspected cases that they couldnt put in quarantine because guess what they dont have a quarantine area because the area that is supposed to be for that was being used as an administrative wing because there arent enough resourcesBut anyway like I said its about how you say things I guess so I probably didnt explained myself properly but also didnt appreciated a bunch of people assuming that either I was racist or people from countries with totally different health standards lecturing me about its not that bad Not everyone here is white or from europe or northamerica so some members should stop acting like people being worried that their country cant handle this are just doomsayers|0 Make sure after explaining you ask your daughter if she has any questions Explain that you know this sucks but we need to take it seriously so that things can go back to somewhat of a normalcy sooner than later That everyone needs to work together in this and that her job is to stay inside and keep healthy|1 And the 80 who have mildno symptoms will just suck it upAnd is the Danish health ministry excluding that 80 from statistics and using the official numbers of tested positive to mislead the public and just outright coverup the extent of coronaDoes the Danish government withhold testing and treatment until people are on their deathbedsA few days back the number was 85 85 dead out of all americans who had tested positive for covid because the US is in insane denial and is not testing people until they are at deaths doorUS has been offered testing assistance from china and WHO they refused it all so they could make their own test one patented by US corporations and one profitable for US shareholders in the meantime just ignore the serverity of the situation entirely and only test fucking NBA players and politicians|0 Thats the scary thing|0 LOL why not both Seems like both today|1 Not everyone has the opportunity education skills or even personality to make sufficient money to save I worked my whole life wasnt irresponsible and still BARELY was able to retire|1 Just hoping everyone that called me crazy survives this because I really want those apologies|1 I have never taken a regular flu shot my government doesnt force me to and Ive never felt the need to Never had the flu and only elderly and weak get flu shots here Im not an anti vaxxer Ive had all shots normal people should get I just dont get a flu shot every season|1 Man I want to I want my company to send us home and let us work There very little reason for me to be in the office risking myself and others|0 Yes they are All of them are|1 Broom is hella witchy Like they have those still|1 Why are they rationed Pretty sure everyone should be tested in your wonderful country Pretty sure your great government is not testing people to keep the panic low and skew global results So far the mortality rate for the US is 0025 which may not seem like a lot But it is when you get into the millions Plus only 1600 have been tested in the US With 41 deaths So theres that|1 LoL|1 Nah it should be the doctor from Wuhan|0 every single communication my company has sent this week has that quote somewhere in it always missing the ending as long as we continue not testing|0 oh wow that really sucks wishing best of luck to your family And congratulations 3|1 I was a little more critical of the Chinese before the US decided not testing not having tests and just creating panic without solutions happened Now meh|0 Im here because it was on the front page of Reddit and I randomly clicked on it Where did I say I dont care Of course I care but is merely caring going to get rid of it No As I said besides hoping for a treatmentvaccine and taking precautions to protect oneself there is nothing anyone can do So exchanging information as in speculating and hearsay of whats going to happen and worrying about it is pointless|1 Well good news these are commercial for profit labs producing the tests that are approved by the CDC so theyll likely be going to the highest bidders Though thats just conjecture I dont know if the government is subsidizing any of the cost with the 85 Billion dollar spending bill they passed But when Pence said that theyll be going to market monday that sounds like free market aka for sale|1 You are getting too hung up on the doctor label He has every right to the title And his title is of no bearing on the truthfulness of his statements which are right or wrong of their own accord ad hominem fallacy|0 Thank you|1 Exponential growth is a motherfucker Everything is okay until it isnt|0 Yes sorry Ricuperato recovered ricoverato hospitalized was what I meant to say|1 UprifosbuvirUprifosbuvir MK3682 is an antiviral drug developed for the treatment of Hepatitis C It is a nucleotide analogue which acts as an NS5B RNA polymerase inhibitor It is currently in Phase III human clinical trialsSofosbuvirSofosbuvir sold under the brand name Sovaldi among others is a medication used to treat hepatitis C It is only recommended with some combination of ribavirin peginterferonalfa simeprevir ledipasvir daclatasvir or velpatasvir Cure rates are 30 to 97 depending on the type of hepatitis C virus involved Safety during pregnancy is unclear some of the medications used in combination may result in harm to the baby It is taken by mouthCommon side effects include feeling tired headache nausea and trouble sleeping PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19aboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The problem schools are wrestling with right now is that not all students have access to wifi at home How do we educate them for the two to four weeks schools could theoretically be shut down|0 See Also Kloos E Lamonica J 1966 A machinetest method for measuring carbon dioxide in the inspired air of selfcontained breathing apparatus US Dept of the Interior Bureau of Mines Washington DC|1 best wishes for all people in wuhan|1 This is good news|1 What happens in LASF are homeless people and drug addicts polluting the streets with feces and needles which every sane civilized person in society recognizes is disgusting and dangerousWhat happens in China is regular everyday citizens practicing unsafe disgusting unhygienic acts that are commonplace None of this is new knowledge There is a reason Chinese tourists have been banned by several cities and it is not racism I know this will all sound offensive to most of your Western Educated Liberal sensibilities and Im sorry Im just stating first hand experience of what I saw along with what we read in the WHO reports|0 Ive read quite a few first hand accounts that its airborne People who have it are saying that they caught it from being in the same room with someone who was infected even though they didnt touch anything and washed their hands|1 The medical professionals that first tried to bring attention to the virus and prevent this global epidemic and emergency were taken into custody because what they were saying was considered a rumor by the CCP Just an example of the types of rumors they do not want|0 This is becoming apocalyptic|0 Maybe we should gain new perspectives of how we grow as a race on this planet we cant fuck the rest 6 billion people and other species like this all the way to Valhalla Believe me if you see this comment youre the top 20 of the whole population|1 What about ex cancer patients My mom got her cancer removed 3 years ago and is pre diabetic should I be really worried|0 Profit comes above everything as is usual in the world these days|1 Now south korea share your knowledge to the rest of the world I heard also in singapore more recoveries than the infected|0 Illinois is taking a pretty hard line right now It might be the first time the government there has ever done anything right Source I live in Illinois|1 Im in South Korea Youre in for a wild ride friend|1 Its not their fault the the government is literally lying through their teeth The most critically dangerous aspect of this virus is that it is aerosolized and they say nothing So keep a close eye on Seattle cause their hospitals unfortunately will be the first ones who will fall|0 I am a Canadian citizen going to college in the USA I have a flight home early Sunday afternoon Are there any forseeable risks for me I know about the 14 day isolation when I get back but could my flight get blocked|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 I saw this in someone elses post earlier today but its possible that Trump stands to profit substantiallyhttpssherosubstackcomptrumpcouldprofitfromcoronavirus from this If its true then no wonder there was such a push to develop our own testing kits|1 the ones who comprehend and appreciate sarcasm |1 There was a guy today in Tianjin that tested negative for the virus 3 times and then tested positive on the 4th Worrying|0 OoOoH sToP fEaR MonGeRiNg ThE rIsK iS LoW|0 I really hope this virus will not spread in the south of Italy where the level of health care is like third worldif Lombardia cant handle this spread there is no hope for midsouth regions of Italy|1 I noticed that in my email today Like okay are you going to pay all your hourly workers quarantine pay Okay then shut up about your caring Actions speak louder than words|1 Im so sorry I hope it works out for you and your family|1 As much as I agree with a lot of the points youre making perhaps not the overall sentiment though its just illustrating the complete and utter lack of action from this governmentYouve made several very good suggestions the government is not leading the way And honestly im still seeing people comapre it to the flu common cold even Diid yOU kNoW cOmmOn CoLD iS coORONaViRusAnd that is purely down to the attitude the government is displaying|1 Take what I say push it to an illogical extremeOkay so stop and think a minute You agree they arent locking up 13 billion people Is it safe to say they arent locking up people in UNaffected areas I mean if they are is it just because they enjoy spending a lot of money to hurt people That seems unlikelySo then arent they necessarily locking people up in affected areas It sure seems like you agree with meWho is the Chinese agent now lol Keep talking I love putting your illogical mind on display Lets suss this out some more|1 You want to know why This was a bioweapon|1 Now thats a good joke|1 In AZ too Had a coworker leave VERY ill with the flu the other day No one seems worried about the risks they and say its just another flu This just another flu has most likely taken my mothers life in Kirkland and put my sister in quarantine|0 When is the government going to stop making assumptions about this not being airborne I bought some N95 masks just in case I have to go to the store Cost me 10 each from a scalper but what can you do|0 Yes If supply lines are cut there will be food shortages Stocking up on food and water is the best way to prepare for something like this|1 I dont think so anymore Call me paranoid but the 1919 Spanish flu didnt have the mass transport system we have today and the rapid interconnectedness we rely on Im gonna bet this is just the beginning of a series of rolling waves of such pandemics so not once in a lifetime at all|0 I highly recommend visiting The Silph Roadhttpsthesilphroadcommap for a worldwide map of local Pokemon Go communities|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Hey I really feel for the OP here and share a lot of the same sentimentsI have been trying to use what influence I have to create positive outcomes Some people Ive laughed at me but others have listenedAll of us on this sub are people who cares about others and want to do our best to protect people and humanity That is a really wonderful thingWe are all going to face some dark periods ahead where we feel alone and helpless but we can make a difference here Our society needs people like us to help it and we all need to work together as a team and look out for each other Good luck x|1 He didnt cut funding for the CDC just the people who coordinated the national pandemic response The pandemic response teams were eliminated from the national security council and department of homeland security These were the people who coordinated the national Ebola response under president Obama In 2018 Trump decided they werent needed anymore|1 Which experts would you believe though The one that says its going to be a long battle with aggressive testing or the one that says 2 weeks to two months like the US|0 When even Fox News tells you that youre wrong you know you said stupid shit|0 The mortality rate for people under 40 is 02 Absolutely not a death sentence|1 I dont see anything less than gleeful partisan cynicism in your comment Not sure how me pointing it out gives me a guilty conscience Can you explain|0 how do those numbers add up 18 tested positive this includes the 13 that died they have not gotten back any test results from the residents and none of the people that died in their facility were tested where are the other 5 from|0 Yes there are superspreaders Just like with every other diseaser0 is an average|1 When people try to downplay this thing to just a flu I wonder if they are even putting their older friends and family into consideration|1 Yes plz|1 Search for the UNAM youtube live stream They alluded to it and basically named as a possible outbreak point the vivelatino festival since it wont be canceled SMH Bunch of dumbsss for keeping it going|1 I just vacuum sealed a bunch of fresh fruit and veggies Will stay good up to 6month to a year|1 I obviously did by not saying anything near that s Stop putting words in peoples mouths|0 Of course it does The most common deaths related to flu infection occur due to secondary infections If someone gets the flu gets sick and then gets bacterial pneumonia cause of death is recorded as bacterial pneumoniaYoure not wrong its bullshit but its the way they do it and that hasnt changed bc of nCoV|0 They wish|1 Here is the data on 2 things 1 Data on Worse symtpoms when reinfected httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3019510httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3019510 2 2 Data on Reinfection httpsfuturismcomneoscopescientistswarncoronavirusmorethanoncehttpsfuturismcomneoscopescientistswarncoronavirusmorethanonce Worse Symptoms Taken together our data suggested that SARSCoV is able to enter human immune cells via an antibodymediated pathway this means that when youre reinfected your existing antibodies actually help the virus get into your cells more easily This is like dengue fever that turns into dengue hemorrhagic fever when youre reinfected with a different strain because youre antibodies help it break into your cells to destroy them and immunological consequences of such infection are under investigation productive replication cytokines secretion profile and cell death etc Our data raise reasonable concerns regarding the use of SARSCoV vaccine in humans and pave the way to further studies focusing on the role of immunemediated infection phenomenon during SARS pathogenesis Reinfection While most patients who contract the coronavirus 2019nCoV eventually makea full recovery they dont walk away from the encounter immunized against the disease as one might expect after a viral infectionRather that you can theoretically catch the coronavirus multiple times creating an unusual challenge for health officials trying to contain the outbreakThe underlying idea behind a vaccination or even chicken pox partieshttpswwwcdcgovchickenpoxabouttransmissionhtml is that exposure to a virus will trigger the immune system to generate antibodies that will shield that person from that virus in the future But according to Chinese health officials the antibodies created after a 2019nCoV infection arent always strong enough to keep patients from getting sick againFor those patients who have been cured there is a likelihood of a relapse Zhan Qingyuan the director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at the ChinaJapan Friendship Hospital said during a Friday press conferencehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvGZ99J7mlaIQThe antibody will be generated he added However in certain individuals the antibody cannot last that longBecause some patients could get sick multiple times it will prove even more difficult to track and contain the viral outbreak which has already spread to and killed more peoplehttpsfuturismcomneoscopecoronaviruskilledchinamorethansars than did the entire SARS outbreak of the early 2000s|0 Were here Quietly wondering why the fuck that guy across from you on the train has his fingers in his mouth I just quit the GO train|0 Im the same Since the lid on the toilet is closed to flush anyway Id just make sure to turn off the faucet and open the door with a paper towel and then throw it away|1 Aggressive population control|0 Love this|1 other than testing Working on increasing bedventilator availability And training on said equipment med students foreign postdocs MDs in their own country etc And focusing on the most vulnerable through isolation while providing services I think the level of closingsdisruption is already excessive from an economic standpoint Not talking about portfolios of billionaires talking about how death from poverty is near the rate of heart disease If a humongous downturn results thats millions added to the poverty ranks|0 Yay another intellectual D|1 From the story On January 10 after unwittingly treating a patient with the Wuhan coronavirus Li started coughing and developed a fever the next day He was hospitalized on January 12 In the following days Lis condition deteriorated so badly that he was admitted to the intensive care unit and given oxygen supportOn February 1 he tested positive for coronavirusx200BSo he didnt test positive for 18 days after he was admitted Or they didnt have enough test kits to test somebody in an ICU|1 Its not though its going to make the critical plus fatality rate way higher and look worse|0 Helluva dilemma reallyA few thousand people bottled up in close proximity and trapped on a ship Acquiring the virus BECAUSE theyre trapped on a ship To keep them bottled up is to assure that all of them will acquire the virusTo release the negatives is to be sure youre releasing the virus into the population at large|0 This church is the classic example of a scapegoat SK gov hopes this will deflect much of the incoming blame for their mishandling of containment|0 The fact that you acknowledge there is alot of uncertainty around the virus is a heavy argument in favour of fear mongering and taking this disproportionately serious the unknown effects are exactly why we should be wary and take any precautions we can until certain information is widely studied and available|0 Same here My husband started prepping weeks ago But as a critical care nurse I have zero chances of not being exposed My state just announced its second case I feel like the shoe is about to drop and we are grossly unprepared My hospital does have a team working on it but as far as on the floor prep and education Zero besides wash your hands Which We were doing anyway|1 Interesting Twitter rabbit hole there Thanks for posting|1 I work in China and Im getting traffic jams again since a few days ago I kinda miss the empty streets 2 weeks ago lol Another good thingsign is that restaurants are gradually resuming operations allowing customers to eat for here again Im going to clear some of the items on my toeat list this weekend|1 Only one of them ripped up a fully functioning pandemic response team to fund their vanity project|0 The great recession had huge effects on everyone too and the only bailout was for the banks and rich Given whose president I cant imagine thisll be much different|1 Containment was always the only good option and so far weve ignored it The healthcare system will likely collapse and the load especially as providers get sick due to lack of proper PPE thanks to the shitty CDC response|0 Yeah same here Ive been tell people to get supplies and that its going to get bad everyone was okay whatever its only the flu blah blah And then yesterday everyone was freaking the fuck out And are like should I get some food Its shocking|0 Italy iran and China have the highest rates and its skewing the average Italy has stated they are only testing the most ill China did the same thing and iran is waiting for people to show up sick seeing only the worst due to limited testing They outbreaks in those country are probably massive with most of them experiencing mild symptoms and only the sickest seeking treatment|0 They update every morning around 8 am Beijing timeThe numbers are more related to the number of tests that we can do Of course there are more people infected and those who choose to stay at home Its not a deadly virus to most people|0 Holy fuck it IS sunday HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA|0 Yeah is it weird i think about how we are living in that special part of the text book where kids read it and are like wow they are so stupidThats something I think about fairly often lately And historians and anthropologists are going to have a field day with this It feels very strange|1 Public There is a huge poverty and homelessness problem in NYC school districts True upstate too Hunger especially|0 Here we go again Its not stealing because the law says they can seize it|1 What can we do to help officer|1 Which means by this time next month 11042020 wed be at 216830 cases Scary|0 Ive had to tell my mom not to visit I know it hurt her feelings especially since she wanted to come help with the kids while our schools are closed My parents are extraordinarily healthy for people in their 60s but why lo pwould I have her risk being here My parents live in a remote community with zero confirmed cases and its where they ought to stay Sometimes loving our families means doing things that hurt in the short term|0 Keep telling yourself that lol|1 Cant be entirely free either as hospitals will be flooded|0 Well see places like where I work mckee foodslittle debbies told us our plants wont shut down cuz we make food as if any little Debbies have hardly any nutritional value but gotta keep pumping the diabeetus into everyone|1 Anytime Stay positive Were all in this together |1 Well done mate Unfortunately the general UK public arent sharing these views Its still just as bad as normal flu to most This is a time the country needs to start pulling together Take care mate and be safe|0 Pick up vitamin c hole youre at it|1 We cant conclude either way Exactly We knew equally little as those deaths grew yet people are losing their shit|0 Raises hand in Floridian We dont deal with hurricanes well Im so scared of what happens when everyone realizes this isnt a drill|1 And also easy to forget this isnt Plague Inc so you dont just hang out in infected limbo for forever That was easily the most nonsensical element of that game|1 I have full confidence in what is being reported and most everyone I talk to here agrees We get updates in the morning and evening on confirmed cases suspected cases deaths and those who have recovered We also get information throughout the day on a wide range of topics from mask availability to medical staff updates to updates on international travel and cases The WHO has commended Chinas response and transparency of information Doctors and researchers have done the same with reports of China sharing the genome very quickly to ensure medical researchers around the world could all contribute to helping find a way to stop this All this said we are also realistic We know the numbers are likely higher than what is reported but we dont think this is because of a cover up testing takes time and resources so its natural and expected that its likely behind a bit and they report what they know for sure|1 This man should be charged with treason|0 It is too soon to tell if its short term or long term immunity I know a kid that had full chickenpox vaccinations and still got actual chickenpox two times later Its always possible for someones immune system to glitch out and not operate right|1 If you had said there is no strong evidence linking behavioral factors and flu season I would concede But thats not what you claimed You made a definitive claim that human behavior has absolutely no effect on flu season A statement that strong requires hard data to back it up data showing absolutely no correlation between different behaviors and flu outcomes controlling for the same weather conditionsComplain all you want but if you were one of my students you would get points taken off for stating a conclusion without providing any results supporting said conclusion|1 I wish they either chose earlier patients or produced separate data for each period Chinese would have feared COVID19 a lot more than the flu at least in early February|0 Former FDA guy In the fall were going to need a backstop We need prophylactic like an antibody or a drug because the vaccine is a year or two away Yep Hopefully a cocktail of drugs that stops RNA polymerase repurpose existing antiviral agents approved or in development for treating infections caused by HIV hepatitis B virus HBV hepatitis C virus HCV and influenza Options approved nucleoside analogues favipiravir and ribavirin and experimental nucleoside analogues remdesivir and galidesivir|1 Cognitive dissonance is a powerful force|1 Not making a strong case for yourself|0 Being from Oregon I vote to ban all immigrants from California By immigrants I mean anyone from California regardless of race We need to set up a border patrol to guard our southern border Perhaps a wall|0 Haha Thats what I did I actually just left my ID resting on my door handle and the guy just left it on the doorstep|1 I totally agree The US should be able to be much more selfsufficient than it is today We can manufacture products for a competitive price without using child labor and sweatshops When we continually buy from Asia we hurt ourselves and we contribute to some horrific human rights violations in other parts of the world|0 Thats why capitalism is good though private companies can take it on themselves to do what the government cant or wont|1 Ive been on the sub since Jan end but took a break last week Im confused about the diamond princess isnt this the same ship which was docked in Japan for weeks and the US finally agreed to have its patients flown to US I even heard the captain was the last one to deboard What is with the ship in US sea waters again|1 It is more that there was a lack of emphasis on the other type of transmission water vapour transmission small droplets in areas like trains and buses Aerosol in the wild is probably less common outside of the labThis is all provisional There is a lot of potential for bad news in the future and I recognize a lot of the negative rumours turned out to be trueIf you read the CDC webpage on transmission it is worded in such a way that you could read it in two ways weasel words you could read it as saying airborne is primary vector or you could read it as saying its all about hand washing It was a Scissor statementEverybody should be wearing a respirator and gloves if they go out in public or work with other people|0 Proud of Indian science community|1 Could you post your source please Ive been trying to find good info on that|1 Under no circumstance would China EVER reveal anything that made their military appear weak or weakened Thats the point Half the Chinese military could be infected and thousands dead and NO ONE would know and it wouldnt be included in the released figures To think otherwise is naive Its laughable that so many on reddit seem to have NO clue the level of atrocity the Chinese government is capable of or commits regularly Bring on the downvotes|0 Holy shit were at the beginning what the fuck do you expect Its normal that it is bad|0 At this moment there are still people claiming that its just a flu it doesnt affect young people they are not afraid of some stupid virus etc And its more common that one would think|0 so they got it from literally breathing the same air as them or did they touch the same surface this is ridiculous|0 You beat me to it 100 this They want to be heroic when its noticable and will get them praise Not when its an inconvenient and quiet act|1 And the teachers their families the janitors lunch staff all their families too Dont forget the administration|1 Very true and Ive considered that There are cases of relapse in this too Well with a daughter in school I am almost guaranteed to get a good dose of the 1st time around so maybe its for the better Im just trying to hold onto a thread of hope somewhere|1 Prepping has been surprisingly cheap Thats twelve weeks of food that is both more healthy and less expensive than my usual fare I mean its not novel to my diet but it somehow cuts out the more expensive and less healthy stuff|1 Whats wrong with us doing that Preventing a pandemic is what we want Americas economy is a powder keg waiting to explode If this spreads like it is in China America will be royally fcked This black swan event will put things in motion that will take us quite a while to recover from|0 There is no way this is transmitted only by obviously symptomatic people ONLY The conspicuously absent data on children in the Chinese descriptive Epi screams to me I ask reservoir|0 Its criminal|0 I dont need to justify it to the school They have pupils that disappear of to India for months so they cant enforce it Ill take a slap on the wrists|1 Because its a huge country with freedom of movement A disease like this is going to get in unless we shut off all entry I am willing to bet you dont want the borders shut down|1 Also nobody is going to die from opioid withdrawals People die every day from drugs contaminated with fentanyl which is made almost exclusively in ChinaAlcohol withdrawals on the other hand can kill you Ive heard And that is totally legal|0 Its funny I posted this httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvU7F1cnWup9M on the other day and got down voted and removed because it was fake news|0 As big of an asshole as he was and as contagious as this is it shocks me that only one other test came back positive from the whole team Thats some hope that they didnt get it but not much to base on anything For the record I find it ridiculous that anyone who knowingly had direct contact with a positive cant get a test|1 Thanks Quite a lot of young patients especially 2029s Correcting of the age distribution mortality rate for the complete group should be approximately 055 if we assume that China is 05 That means 23 deaths while current count is already at 26 Partially that might be explained by the psych ward event My guess would be that the low death count in the cult can most likely be explained by the young age of the followers|0 You cut peoples water off if they do not pay the bill everywhere in the world No you dontIn the UK for example companies cant legally turn off your water even if you dont pay Water is seen as a human right and access to it must remain openThis is the same in Austria France Hungary and Ireland too Probably more countries outside EuropeIt has nothing to do with poorness but with paying the billsWhat an illogical statement Ever heard of cause and effectStop talking out of your arse|0 Yes I guess It could be good in a way to not take too drastic desicions but in another way not if we actually need too Nobody knows right now but if you look at the countrys that have been starting to see less spread they took actions and the did it quickly|1 This is why everyone needs to keep screaming at the administration Publicly shaming them gets resultsCongrats to all you screamers|0 I have always told my friends and family to not use Airbnb Its a shadowey operation without any insurance or costumer protectionfinance discrimination etc and it is causing huge housing problem in Europe|1 The government can do things fine without RepublicanLibertarian metteling Pick a failure and I will point you to the Republicans who caused it to further their privatization message to cost taxpayers more money to line the 1s pocketsLibertarianism serfdom|0 If you cannot provide any source then delete your post as it is misinformation reckless and will scare people who are already freaking out And also apologize and pledge never to do it again But I would rather you post a source as it would be very informative e|0 What I have read about people testing positive again after supposedly getting better says that most scientists dont believe the cause of this is that people are catching the virus twice There are many other explanations for this phenomenon the first test being a falsepositive the later test being a falsepositive people being discharged from the hospital before theyre fully over the virus and their symptoms later worsening etc|1 Thats interesting I didnt know that about the oaths Thanks for the informationMakes sense that they might not choose to go in that case|1 It met the official definition a few weeks ago Now were just waiting for an official of the WHO I think to give it the label Politics is keeping it from being named a pandemic no other reason|0 I went to Mexico a month ago before people in the US cared about any of this On my way back to the US Delta personnel in Mexico were asking everyone if they felt sick or if theyd been to China in the last 2 weeks I didnt have to prove anything but at least they were asking|0 I think japan does not get much affected if the Olympics are cancelled it is gonna rise just the sameway it raised after the bombings|0 From a dr on the front lines in Bergamohttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhehttpswwwredditcomrmedicinecommentsff8hnstestimonyofasurgeonworkinginbergamointhex200BIn classical flu besides that it infects much less population over several months cases are complicated less frequently only when the virus has destroyed the protective barriers of our airways and as such it allows bacteria which normally resident in the upper airways to invade the bronchi and lungs causing a more serious disease Covid 19 causes a banal flu in many young people but in many elderly people and not only a real SARS because it invades the alveoli of the lungs directly and it infects them making them unable to perform their function The resulting respiratory failure is often serious and after a few days of hospitalization the simple oxygen that can be administered in a ward may not be enough|0 Nah he mostly ran for president to get the idea of UBI more widely accepted and hopefully adopted by whoever actually won He managed to get the idea accepted by many voters as well which is a huge change from before he ran for presidentSo even though he didnt win the fact that everyone is talking about this as an actual solution and taking it seriously is something that wouldnt have happened without him running He could end up having a massive impact in history despite not winning|1 LOL no I can assure you this is not a conspiracy I just have my own plans and whatnot Id much rather do than sit at home cowering in fear as if my name was Cody in that one Suite Life episode|1 They think we are superior and Italians are dirty For realThey dont understand exponential growth|0 I just replied to the wrong idiot mb|0 Autoimmune myself and this is a thought Ive been having My immune system is constantly on high alert because for some stupid reason it thinks my intestines are evil and must be purged As such my immune system is abnormally strong and hyperactive when completely unrestricted by medicine Seems to me if the concern is that weakening my immune system will allow the virus to create serious issues one course of action would be to temporarily stop the immunosuppressant treatment or at least put off the next dose for maybe a week or so I know from experience that I can go without it for a little while before flaring upSo when coronavirus comes stomping through my community like Rodan maybe I just need to let Godzilla out of the box and let them fight My unrestricted immune system would likely wipe the floor with COVIDObviously I wouldnt do such a think against a doctors advice though|1 Same I didnt travel but was in close proximity of a couple who came back from China and were also showing symptoms I have all the symptoms but am not able to get tested I already took a full week off work and am worried to call out for a second week without a diagnosisIm not worried about my own health so far absolutely worried Ill accidentally spread it to others though|0 All of the people in my family are making our own masks from tight weave cotton two layer Are they 100 Of course not But if every person with a sewing machine would whip some of these out for your family and friends then we can reserve the N95s and surgical masks which arent appropriate for direct contact with Covid19 patient anyways for the healthcare workers and still knock down the amount of virus being spread out in the community And this cant be stressed enough stay the fuck home and only go out when you absolutely need to Damn Americans jet setting all over the country going to Disney what the hell people|0 The difference between hurricanes and this virus is that once the hurricane is done its gone People can begin to rebuild With this virus there will likely be pockets of outbreaks popping up for quite some time which will cause communities to experience the same amount of panic they are experiencing now|0 The CDC is a joke|1 The name of the game is not freaking people outA person is smart people are dumb panicky and dangerous animalshttpsmyoutubecomwatchvw2ppyMUlXfM|0 No way There are dozens of us Dozens|0 Most likely because there is no secret spread despite what Twitter will tell you|0 I think the term youre looking for is Evil|0 I would like to see the numbers for Alabama after today Two drivethru testing centers opened today and they had to have tested over 1000 at each location|1 56c or hotter for 30 minutes kills the virus so a pressure cooker or crock pot could take care of that|0 Not just local businesses but the major retail stores are still promoting a business as usual attitude even as gatherings of over 100 are being prohibited Very disappointing|0 If more people are tested the number of infected goes up which would likely lower the case fatality rate The CFR is usually artificially high at the beginning of an outbreak because only the most severe cases are confirmed Also it takes twosix weeks to recover from COVID19 so right now the only confirmed and completed cases in the U S are the ones that ended in death The case fatality rate is the percentage of infected people who die and is calculated as a percentage of confirmed and completed cases The 91 confirmed cases are not completed those people are still sick so you cant use that number to calculate the fatality rate The mortality rate is the number who die as a percentage of the total population usually expressed as x number of people out of 1000 die from this particular cause You can use whatever population number you want the number out of 100000 the number out of a million etc|0 This definitely has nothing to do with china having significant investment in reddt|1 Maybe theyre all empty inside and are secretly ready to die|0 Thank you for posting this I have never seen this tracker before and it is my new favorite|1 Pretty risky going to Taco Bell during a toilet paper shortage|1 fuck em let them go and tell them to stay the fuck away from your family whenif they come back|0 Yeah I did it happens Ive never seen it before though so it was weird|1 Well Im sobbing now thanks|1 Wtf I have a government phone THATS ON T MOBILE NETWORK and I ran out of data so I have no idea wtf is going on|0 The population of each US state is small too SK is 50M which is not a tiny countryI wonder if the best way for the US to deal with the prob is to delegate it to the states Some already have announced free testing and paid time off work|1 Thats very interesting Also the Black Death in England pretty much marked the end of serfdom peasants were no longer tied to the Lord they were born under and could travel to better paying employers The peasant survivors of the plague were a scarcer commodity and many of them made the most of it|1 Respirator expiration is mostly a con too The filters themselves do not go back Its the rubber bands and the sealing foam that ages and supposedly does not complete a seal but in reality it absolutely should be used in a situation where new ones are not available A 99 seal is better than 0 seal|1 I love this|1 Im locking this because its just devolving into a political rant This sub is meant to be informational theres other places for you to vent|0 Okay So theoretically if the whole world goes on lockdown for 60 days No trace of covid 19 in any human Couldnt someone just get it again the way patient 0 wouldve then start all over again|0 I so hate Macron|0 Dont worry Jesus will protect us and if he doesnt they probably deserved it right s|1 I feel the same way Ive been in bed all day just processing how scary this feels|0 Wait seriously I cant believe he actually went that far Thats just impressive Trump has reached a low lower than the low|0 Upper part is consistent with anxiety Lower part or feeling like you have rubber bands wrapped around your chest from top top bottom that would be where Id get concerned If you can take a deep breath and hold it for a few seconds without coughing youre probably fine|1 Dr Gabriel Matthew Leung GBS JP a clinician and a public health authority is Dean of the Li Ka Shing Faculty of Medicine of the University of Hong Kong Q Do you really recommend the wearing of masks even when you are not showing symptoms no travel history do you recommend wearing a mask in gatherings like this or in church A I think that if you go out of your home whether it is to school or to work or in the very crowded conditions of a public transportation system it would be advisable to wear a mask Now having said that do not treat your mask as your universal protector You must practice correct hygiene and put it on and take it off correctly This coronavirus tends to spread more through airborne route than through droplets Now that is not good news since a standard surgical mask has gaps on the side Standard surgical masks are more useful for large droplets That is why we recommend an airtight N95 for airborne pathogens Now should everyone wear an N95 It is not plausible to wear it for extended periods You can get dizzy if you wear it for an extended period of time for example General advice when you leave your home wear a mask if at all possible httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvTTUg2K7WFE8featureyoutubet4175httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvTTUg2K7WFE8featureyoutubet4175|1 But its probably worse than most people suspect And things like Trump firing the US pandemic response team in 2018 and never replacing it isnt a good sign of how things are|0 Just remember No one knows whats going to happen Not even the scientists or doctors These news outlets survive by putting out stories that are meant to terrify you in order to keep getting clicksviews Thats all I can tell you what will happen though The sun will rise tomorrow and life will continue This will not be the end of humanity Unfortunately more people will get sick and die Thats life Weve had diseases that were a lot worse than this new coronavirus and we survived then Also remember that as scary as it is there are probably thousands of people out there who are probably infected and dont know it because the testing just isnt there yet so that mortality rate will surely dropA inconvenience yes A death sentence most definitely not Well be okEdit There are survivors out there who are 50 years old As long as your parents dont have some terrible underlying illness there chances of making out alive from this are still goodEdit 2 This is coming from someone who has an overactive imagination where Im always thinking the worst so if I can find some peace out of this situation anyone can I just got tired of worrying about this and I finally said enough is enough Im not going to let fear dictate my life|0 You dont want to know Its very creepy|0 No It wont change anything its the same old Chinese press conference from February Still waiting for the data The only in vivo study with viral load doesnt find a significant result|0 Okay Ill simplify it this time ARDS ratio of 1320 means that the CFR is at least 67 or above Why Because about one third to half of someone who developed ARDS are going to die regardless of the causeHowever the cruise ship currently gives you 4691 057 Koreans except the psychiatric ward cohort gives you 51046 047 and Singaporeans gives you 091 0 In other words death should increase more than 10 folds to fit your ratioOf course not all death are realized at this point but considering the fact that vast majority of Korean confirmed cases as well as cruise ship passengerscrews or Singaporean cases started to show symptom long ago long enough to develop ARDS or even die on average about half of the death should have been realized by now not 510ps average duration between first symptom to death is 14 days and the median is shorter than that Which means about half of death tolls among the patients who started show symptom before Feb 12 should have been realized by now Like I said a lot of confirmed cases have onset date around that time|0 I feel like your user name doesnt add up here|1 Woah I see I see Thanks for the info |1 Genetically modified Taq has come a long way since the 90s Dollars to donuts the issue is false positives with high cycle length especially if they are relying on the fluorescence entirely for documentation You could use an old school gel electrophoresis after the fact to double check that the portion amplified is the correct length as a two step confirmation process however It would be a bit slower to add on the additional step however and you would need to treat even the amplified sample as a serious biological hazard unless you could inactivate any potential viral particles without degrading the pcr product|1 20 times higher 20000 dead 800000 infected|0 Yeah were actually taking this seriously and because people have statutory sick pay they dont have to fear for their job if they contract the disease|0 Uhhh funding is ALWAYS the biggest issue The school should stay open though the pandemic of course COVID19 has a 2 mortality for young people This means that in a school of 1500 to 2000 students 3 to 4 students are expected to die Even if we assume 5 students pass away and that those students all are freshmen then that only amounts to 5 180 4 3600 days of school missed Comparatively if the 1500 student low estimate school closes for a week low estimate for closure time thats 15005 7500 days of school missed The school stays open PintoMathhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFordPintoLegalcasess if that want clear|0 Just dmed Thanks|1 Oklahoma has tested 19 people I feel your frustration Oklahoma Health Department linkhttpswwwokgovhealthPreventionandPreparednessAcuteDiseaseServiceDiseaseInformationCoronavirusDisease2019OklahomaResponsetoCoronavirusDisease2019indexhtml|0 Thank you please repeat it to the people in the back|1 Its not too slow Median time to symptoms is 5 days and median time to hospitalization in Italy at least is 4 days With the amount of infected around the world seems like more hospitals should have been overwhelmed by now Or maybe Im just being too optimistic|1 Which in the case of the FED printing money is all of society Hence this massive crash|0 Is there a nonSun version of this story I do not wish to give that rag clicks|0 The fact that anyone has bought the flat out retarded lets get 60 of our population infected but slowly so we dont overwhelm our hospitals to develop herd immunity we dont even know is possible is almost unbelievable And yet here we are weve slowly moved from its just the flu travel bans dont work just wash your hands and youll be fine to just put 602012 of our population in the ICU but slowly as to not overwhelm it This shit is going to be studied for insight on mass system failure for generations|0 In an attempt to keep up with demand Prestige Ameritechs management team is working 80hour weeksShouldnt that be 168 hour weeks in shifts|0 Fuck thats terrifying Im sorry that happened to you but happy to hear youre feeling better|1 Theyre calm cool and collected about it for the most partWhat about Flora|1 Discrimination under the suspect of potential COVID19 transmission HELP NEEDEDHello allI see one of friend has returned from UK to India and his apartment dwellers have asked him to stop using his own maid cook and helper services inspite of his through check in the airports and not showing any symptoms The apartment dwellers are further restricting the buying of essential services from the apartment supermarket for him and his family I feel there is a blanket discrimination against anyone who is coming from UK I would need legal and government help along with media coverage on this discrimination without justification under the panic pretext of COVID19 RegardsSwapnil|1 Very true see a doctor|1 Uncomfortable nose swab but its over soon just stay as still as possible I hope you feel better Ibuprofen and Tylenol helped my husband a little If you could probably a hot bath could help I hope you feel better|1 He was handing out blessings because those who are sick will find their way to god|1 What makes any of you think there will actually be a vaccine They tried with SARS and failed this could just be more placate the people and try even though we know we cant do it Good PR|0 So glad I didnt go to my milsim for airsoft this weekend lol|1 If by tomorrow afternoon my company hasnt done anything for staff other than the poorly drafted printout about washing hands and not touching your face then im outme and my wife run a small kitchen doing hot deli foodmin wage us and the subway that shares our kitchen have had no extra protective equipment provided nor heard from any bossesour gloves have tiny perforated holes in and we have no masks95 of the staff are fucking morons who spent today playfully breathing on each other and touching each others faces hur hur i giv yoo da flu retards This is madness|0 Theyre still taking up a hospital bed because they need to be closely monitored The problem isnt so much the percent who develop severe cases its that so many catch it that even with a lower percent it overwhelms medical systems which operate at around 75 capacity on a normal day Once the system is overloaded people who wouldve ordinarily survived with simple things like oxygen dont because they cant even be seen by a doctor Its common for people to take a couple weeks just to see their own doctor now There might be a vaccine there might be medication regimens Theres no reason to give up hope but its irresponsible to brush off whats happening at ground zero|0 Thats true I like this subreddit to keep me informed but reading the comments freaks me the fuck out Then I have to remember that not every human in the world will be exposed but clusters will and as long as I take neccessary precautions I will be fine|0 Dont they say when you get off a plane you can self isolate yourselfThis i think is unacceptable|0 Woohoo I still got 7 years before Im expendable|1 No when you go to the hospital with no symptoms you are still taking up space and time A few people like that is no big deal but when thousands show up at the same time it is a problem Eg in China everyone goes to the hospital to get an IV for a minor cold httpswwwbmjcomcontent348bmjg1262I dont know if that is the same in Italy or not|0 Can someone explain to me what the UKs chief medical officer is saying herehttpsyoutubeIfJcwDaZrsAt1250 I am right in saying that hes suggesting 20 of people in Wuhan caught the virusWould a serological test actually be able to show the numbers arewere this high They differ so drastically from the official numbers that if true the mortality rate for this disease would be significantly lower than basically all popular media is reporting it as|1 We are seen as nothing more than neb jockeys by most people They cant understand why we need degrees to do that What people dont see is us running from one ICU pt to another bagging patients reading ABGs trying to explain to the RN again why they cant just adjust the air flow on a patient who is on an air entrainment device delivering PAP and PEP therapy hoping for some lung recruitment NTS and teach suctioning soooooooo much sputum running ECMO doing COPD education doing almost every extubation transporting every ventilated patient trending EtCO2 determining if a patient is getting enough flow to meet their inspitory demand being able to interpret heart rhythms and hemodynamics and so much more We learn early on to make do with what we have gerryrigging it if we have to We listening to new RNs coming in questioning why we picked RT because they heard from the director of their program that respiratory therapy is a dying profession Getting attitude from a RN because we took 20 minutes to come do a PRN because we have 3 units 60 patients and they all need us at once Palliatively extubating a woman who looks like your grandma while her whole family is around you being with her while she takes her last breath then moving on to your next patient trying to act as if youre not dying inside Doing an apnea test on the toddler who snuck outside and fell into the pool to determine if there is any brain activity Being at the front line treating patients with a myriad of heart and lung conditions Watching our coworkers get burnt out and move on to other careers because they cant stand the thought of extubating one more 18yr old kid who thought they were invincible Why do we do what we do Its not for the prestige as we are commonly forgotten Its not for the money while we are well compensated we earn significantly less than our RN counterparts No we do what we do because we are passionate about what we do Without that passion I highly doubt many of us would stick around Im hopeful if nothing else comes of covid19 there will be exposure to the field of respiratory therapy for the general public and some much deserved respect for what we do|1 I have a question why are people predicting the US will have a million cases in a month or two while in China theyve had the virus circulating for months and only have 80000 Is it because of their stringent quarantine methods Are they lying about their numbers Im just curious I dont doubt what Liz or others have been saying and I am taking it very seriously myself Im just wondering why there is this difference|0 I very much hope that Irans death rate is due primarily to the widespread use of corticosteroids to treat the inflammatory aspects of the illness That is apparently a big nono and could accelerate and worsen the viruss impact Even in younger folks steroid treatment in this context could weaken the immune system enough to cause serious problems on top of the immune system damage the virus already causes|0 Ahah thats ace We all thpught we were such individuals but there we are doing the same shit in the same clothes in different places My friend bought a Rainbow kids back pack on ebay the other week pure nostalgia |0 One example of GSAM frontrunning clients would be great|1 10 of Americans still struggle to access the internet or lack access completely|0 Were going to have to rely on Trump in order to close the border as ridiculous as that sounds|0 Just because the news tell you the death rates in the West have surpassed the one in China does not mean China is handling it better than the West There are people dead in China because of Wuflu who didnt get tested Hence their case did not get reported China has more than a billion people Are all of them doctors Ofc many will die without being treated In addition I havent yet mentioning the deceptive reporting coming from China sources|0 Florida is warm outside but air conditioned to sub zero and AC pulls humidity out of air If colderdrier is better for COVID19 then AC seems a great way to help it|1 Yeah theyre just fans of the virus at a virus concert Everything is fine|1 To clarify I am not saying health professionals should not prepare They totally should Im saying the general public is being mislead with fear mongering mediaAnd to address your point I dont think everyone will stay in hospital beds so there will be a flow But assuming that all hospital beds in the country fill up I would assume that outpatient centers would be converted to assist in the less severe cases that still require medical attention however I do not think it will ever reach that stage as I think the virus will die out once the temperature goes up and people start going out less Especially in the US non city areas will be easier to prevent the spead as there is less population density|0 I can imagine a lot of kids are driving their parents mad and just being let outside to play so the parents can have some peace and the kids can get a bit of exercise Not the best idea but I understand|0 Yeah i have a coworker that decided to do a weekend trip to Florida|1 I he dies that would be a strong signal downhill from there|1 Well I hope they save some for Bernie We need him to be healthy |1 Its based on Italian estimates per Imperial CollegeI agree though numbers could be far worse but medical personal isnt representative of the general population they are extra at risk|0 On liveleak there are no less than thirty videos showing apartments and buildings being welded shut Bittube has more if you look for them Youtube tears them down as soon as they show up so that might be your problem The fact remains it is happening in China and bound to happen elsewhere as this pandemic grows It is a sad indictment of how human beings treat one another and not precisely a political one I was raised in the US during the polio epidemic and it was customary to underplay waves of the disease when they decimated neighborhoods So no saints here eitherOpportunism by evil people is always a problem On the reservation it was worse with the feds using the tragedy to sweep in with oppressive countermeasures During the polio epidemic many native American young women were illegally sterilized in the name of public health and to this day nobody whispers about it much Three of my great aunts had to resort to adoptionSo its about managing the problem without murdering the afflicted Do we seal them off to their doom or do we find ways to care for those who catch the disease that dont spread it further I think the latter is the solutionBut making it political by saying that discussing the problem is a Western plot is just demagogue rhetoric and not a means to saving lives|0 this what confuses me are there other health organizations that says the same thing|0 If it gets worse it might be prudent to stock up on antibiotics mycin floxacin cycline antivirals lopinavir ritonavir maybe oseltamivir for good measure and an oxygen concentrator That seems to be how the hospitals are treating it Edit Also a nebulizer to nebulize Interferonalpha|0 Yup Im an NHS worker and this is why were 2 in the global health security rankings Being an island will help too|1 Even if checking just meant politely asking I would say no|0 between 1917 and 1919 about 2 million die because of various reasons including Spanish flu typhus cholera and famine but since Iran is quite large and was sparsely populated at the time Spanish flu did not do the same damage as it did to the rest of the world|0 and if we dont you wont hear us crying about it The generation of stiff upper lips|1 Not yet Well see what things look like 10 days from now|1 Seriously though we still have people walking out of bathrooms without washing their hands Someone needs to wash those nasty hands |0 I dont think shell make it until then regardless of COVID Pancreatic cancer return is a really bad prognosis|0 US is a potential Cinderella Multiple huge metro areas and not shit being done really even to this point except for a few schools shut down and sporting events 10 mil people probably already have it|1 Wow A nightmare scenario is this is true and it winds up being a 5075 mortality rate Thats on the same level as the Black Death from 1347 and may very well cause society to collapse The end of the world as we know itat least for a few years|1 This If its a new car a new computer a new TV etc its not important to get right now IMO Ensuring that a pandemic doesnt kill off a portion of the population is more important|1 So Seattle with its 10 months of rain clouds blocking UV and more moderate summer temperatures seems as though they still may be kind of screwed although maybe high humidity due to frequent rain may still helpMy brother bought a reasonably new home there a decade ago in an expensive fancy neighborhood outside of Seattle and there was no air conditioning in it at all Like it just doesnt get hot enough there regularly enough there for that to be a thing that people do Milder temps very few truly sunny months may have them in a world of hurt even in the summer |0 Sounds like it would be a shitty psychological thriller A plot twist that everyone saw coming except the main character|0 10 day late flex Ill put my 2080ti towards it and my laptops 1050ti while Im at it|0 Above 60 or if you have breathing problems or complications when you have the flu But it is serious and unpleasant to get sick with Covid19 for all but the very youngIf you got infected today and you need hospital support when you get acute one week from now they might be overloaded when you arrive|0 There must be some threshold number logically However with what has been happening in China and elsewhere those last weeks now it would probably not be very high before things would be set in motion I think I would prefer to err on the side of caution|1 You are confused US has excellent medical care but only if you can afford it Its not easily accessible unless you can pay 1000month premiums which is what I pay for me and my 12 year old son Its a great health plan but it is pricey Anyway US healthcare may be expensive but the actual quality of care hardly inferior Far from it actually|1 I went for a twohour walk in the woods today Afterwards I found out that the police came to some peoples houses and checked if they were at home Those that werent received a fine north of 1000 which scared me a little Officially going on walks on your own or with people you live with is not prohibited and how would the police know that you werent doing just that|0 that doesnt sound american at all here we just eventually get awarded the privilege of taking some time off as long as our bosses say its okay during the time we want to take off we dont earn it via working for it bit by bit or whatever and it holds no value when we leave the job|1 From a business point of view its an act of severe assholery in a country where its already screamingly difficult to secure staff|0 The somewhat good news is that cruise will probably be cancelled But your sister needs to smarten up Time to start sharing flattenthecurvecomhttpsflattenthecurvecom with everyone every day|1 Find out who of your friends has a sewing machine and make your own There are patterns on the web|1 Oh the engineering and approval process is expensive but its actually a kinda neat part of the business|1 i live in italy and i can say the situation was ok but with the latest measures being applied to all the country made the people go crazy they started assaulting shops and stockpiling food which you can imagine the consequences people try to leave at all cost also police stops you in major roads or places to ask why you are moving and if a have a allowance to do so in my 2 cents i can tell you the govt made this much worse by basically enforcing war like rules the fact that they forced ppl to do stuff basically spread a general paranoia and hysteria i do not know how long this will go on but honestly the climate between ppl is getting tense and tense by the day i feel like the govt will be forced to ease the measurements just to relieve people morale|0 She is certainly right|1 Our politicians and leaders are alarmingly ignorant and stupid on this I dont know what else to say|0 Im sorry if you ever thought they would save us They couldnt if they wanted to and they wouldnt anyway|1 Ill get the round after that |0 Nice|1 China probably will be the biggest mask manufacturer consumer importer and exporter in one year Best bet is China fully controls the virus so can redirect the most resource to the rest of the world|1 Yet thats not what the people who are dealing with this and have dealt with this are saying Nah fuck them ill trust you you seem legit|0 Its animal cruelty Can you imagine the embarrassment that dog would suffer if his human dropped dead All the other dogs would look upon him with scorn likeYou shoulda told him to stay homenow who is gonna bring you food|0 we are not working very simple fear is everywhere stay safe|0 Just want to say thank you from a shelf stackercheck out person with compromised immune system X|1 Your boss is fine that youll skip 2 weeks of work|1 So glad to know Im not alone |1 There were sources reporting this new flu early in January I cant remember where but I thought it was strange and started obsessing before anyone officially died I think Cant remember anymore and those reports are either buried or scrubbed from the internet|0 Where are all of you guys getting treasury checks from|1 We will never be able to test the entire population So regardless only the sick will get tested and getting tested changes nothing with regard to treatment Moral of the story is stay the fuck home if youre sick and if its really so contagious without symptoms were all fucked and were gonna have to tough it out|0 title drawn from here which the sub wont let me share since this is a liveupdating link and it was shared earlier todayhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomworld20200228coronavirusliveupdates|1 In LA the hospitals are dealing with shitbags coming in and stealing their masks and purell This on top of the you cant have a n95 just handle it like anything else This whole situation is trash|0 Yes so you just have to puzzle to create a shape with a high score in the game That score is a sort of predictor of how likely the shape will actually work when you create the protein in real lifeBut the goal in this case would be a shape that can attach to the proteins on the surface of the virus In the human body by attaching something to those proteins you can block them from working Thus stopping the virus In theory that is this is all still pretty far from the end goal of course|1 Laughed so hard Thank you|1 Wasnt there a post yesterday about some US government official saying the virus is contained How is that possibly true when Canada is getting new cases mostly from the US This is not looking good|1 I just had an Office Space flashbackDo what you can to protect yourself from idiots Theyre the greatest threat at the moment|1 All of us with PPE should shop together bet they wont laugh if we go in groups|0 Yeah Its a joke Shortly we will see a massive spike in cases because of this lax prevention strategy|1 I hope their cruise ship gets torpedoed|1 Oh God I completely forgot you can get it through the mailon the hard surface of an envelope Jesus Never mind but thank you for reminding me|0 Please dont lump us in with this piece of shit Most Americans dont support him and never have He doesnt speak for most Americans At most 4043 a terribly high number for a low life like this httpsprojectsfivethirtyeightcomtrumpapprovalratings|0 Yeah I was one of those dumbasses Before I went on spring break I was just like oh its just a flu and were going to be fine Weve been through thousands of these Then as the news started getting more and more bleak well I got scared My mother is still relatively young 55 but shes diabetic and on chemo I realized that my dumbassery could get her killed and that Im the most likely source of infection so I went back to my dorms as soon as I could so that if I went to the store for groceries or for my meds I wouldnt infect her I apologize for being so narrow minded then|0 The virus isnt going to kill all or even most of the people who get infected the mortality is likely between 13 High for a viral illness and higher than we want it but not everyone Still its gotta suck to be in Hubei right now|0 Should people who smoke be really worried Im in the UK and a large proportion of my family are smokers How does coronovirus impact those who smoke|0 Wow Just wow Mad respect to you man Theres no way anyone could just gloss over that Its a very engaging and compelling read Well done |1 South Carolina checking in Everyone I know personally isnt preparing and isnt worried Toilet paper is gone and schools are closed but everyone is still going to work and out to bars My view could be skewed as I have children to worry about and none of my friends do Im sure it will get serious soon but my family and I stocked a week ago and are in our first day of lockingin by choice|0 best way to not get it is to act like you have it|1 I am not sure thats how it works haha|1 My parents arent super concerned 24 living at home and Im personally not expecting a run on the grocery stores BUT I am slowly over the next 2 weeks going to build up an extra pantry in the back of the guest room I use as an office Lots of rice and beans and whatever other canned veggiesWorst case scenario nothing happens and I donate it all to a food bank No harm no foul and I provide some meals to members of my community in need|0 I mean its just dehumanizing to try and buy the rights to something that might in the future become crucial to the survival of the human race|0 Im just saying a person living hand to month doesnt have the luxury of caring|1 Current 1 misdiagnosed cause of death is bacterial pneumonia A local Atlanta elementary school teacher just collapsed in class last Friday and later died Cause of death bacterial pneumonia She was 31 years old I called the school district and said it is negligence to not have her body tested for coronavirus and they basically hung up on me|0 I dont see why not We developed other medicines vaccines etc tests at scale in the past Even if our production capacity is limited surely its not zero|1 The shadow health secretary has been done a few interviews today about what has been discussed in the meetings Things are definitely going to change next week They cant just tell over 70s to stay in What about those who are over 50 but have poor health Everyone will need to take action|0 Agreed Ive been on this since January More than prepared and I feel like a virologist resident at this point But every time the asshat spouts his shit it seems I have to redo my efforts I am going to raise holy hell on this site in Nov if you youngsters dont vote|0 Some of its obviously garbage but most modern medicines are isolated from plants that are used in herbalism To name a few noteworthy ones We extract morphine from opium poppys a heart medication from foxglove and the main ingredient in aspirin is found in willow trees|0 Hi Im Italian living in Italy but I follow UK news and stuffs just because I like your country Your regretful comment prompted me to try to give you a simple advice quarantine yourself and the people you love if others wont let them call you crazy but at least use buy and buy a mask before prices spike By the look of it herd immunity will just make lot of people die and collapse the healthcare system its simple math its not true only old people need hospitalization here we have also young ones medics and paramedics too who better than them would know how to protect themselves About the numbers even here they just are not be able to count them all Inform yourself from outside sources and for for your own safety and love protect yourself|1 Just got an email from Landmark saying theyre doing the same|1 Man theres something fascinating about watching the reddit hive mind pivot to praising China|1 Its definitely not serious as fuck for 99 percent of us|1 02 assuming you get exposed onceWhat happens if its literally your job to live and breathe around people who have itOdds are if youre exposed to it over and over again already cases of it reinfecting someone and being more severe your luck is going to run out|0 Yes Shit is bullshit|0 What about hospitals and peoples homes When more people are home and perhaps sick they need help with cleaning Im sick not with this virus and believe me seeing my house dirty is not helping|0 be gentle to everyone you meet you never know who will be the guy that could potentially save your life one day|1 Then you close pubs bars etc as well as ban mass gatherings just like China and Italy have done but proactively before overloading the NHS and the cases and deaths get to the skyhigh levels weve seen in those countriesThe limited measures taken by the UK government so far do not go as far as many medical academics and professionals would like Long but very informative read this articlehttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca was shared on Twitter by Trisha Greenhalgh Medical Doctor and Professor of Primary Care Health Sciences at Oxford University calling it the best article on coronavirus shes readIts naive to think that the governments inaction taken so far is purely down to the advice of the CSO and CMO economic advisers behind the scenes would have played a huge part and it seems the economy is being prioritised over peoples lives here|1 From an article in The Guardian last weekOn 12 January Huang got news his healthy 65yearold mother had been checked into a hospital in the central Chinese city of Wuhan with a fever and a cough There had been reports of a strange new virus with similar symptoms and the hospital staff were dressed in full hazmat suits Still Huangs mother was not tested for the mystery illness nor quarantined from other patients On 14 January she took a turn for the worse and was slipping in and out of consciousness A CT scan showed her lungs covered in white nodules The next evening Huangs brother and father watched her die The official cause of death was severe pneumonia Two doctors told the family privately that she had probably contracted the virus but provided no documentation The hospital pressured the family to immediately cremate Huangs mother but they refused asking for more information A few days later they relented and workers from a funeral home also in protective clothing retrieved cremated and buried her within a few hours leaving the family no time to say goodbye Afterwards the staff disinfected the van they had travelled in and threw away their hazmat suits My mothers death was dealt with without any dignity said Huang 40 who did not want to give his or his mothers full name She wasnt even counted as a number on the governments list he said referring to the six people authorities say have been killed by the virushttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020jan21coronaviruschinesehospitalsnottestingpatientssayrelativeshttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020jan21coronaviruschinesehospitalsnottestingpatientssayrelatives|0 How long before the reinfection hope he stays healthy|1 So what were leaning is that when the government is sufficiently terrified theyll give us all free shit|0 They give free testing to all but youll probably have to meet a huge checklist to get the actual test done|1 Yep love that one And this one for international be sure to scroll down for specifics httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirusfbclidIwAR3nYQIvbQsOCy2EACfXzZPKeNW81y3WVWx70kOMxGf7e1GhHDE8ISWTSoYhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirusfbclidIwAR3nYQIvbQsOCy2EACfXzZPKeNW81y3WVWx70kOMxGf7e1GhHDE8ISWTSoY|1 My broke college ass is ready with a bottle of barefoot and 14 days worth of chef boyardee Keeping quarantine classy lol|1 Or Indias own diseasesIndia is independent it can make its own flu|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 ELI5 please I take hydroxychloroquine for discoid lupus my doc explained this med is chloroquine with an extra element added that keeps it from doing as much eye damage in long term use compared to chloroquine Does that mean that Im already taking something that would help fight off a covid19 infection|0 They already have one that all babies share Unlimited Potential|1 They would have just been listed as death from pneumonia due to complications from the flu Its doubtful if the numbers at that point as small as they were would have stood out|0 Its only a matter of time for the politicians Celebrities can stay somewhat isolated and generally do simply for privacy reasons The opposite is true of politicians especially on the trailIn Asia and Europe its already happened In Iran a decent percentage of parliament came down with it Give it a couple weeks and someone will get it that causes a stir|1 Yeah its called a zipper|1 yeah dont wear your seat belt either cuz you can still die in a car crash|0 HiThanks for you questionsSo I last went to the grocery last friday and Im going again tomorrow tuesday and thursday because Im ordering veg and fruit to a local market that is open of thu and fri Ah there are a lot of local places where you can order on line or on the phone and go there to collectGrocery stores have normal supplies the only difference I noticed is that there are less flour bags I guess because lot of people make bread at home nowShops can only allow a certain amount of people at the time so basically you wait in line outside keeping 2 m distance and you go in when its your turn Its not a big deal its very doable|1 That woman before him during the speech she did him dirty by not introducing him Its like he forced his way onto the mike because he felt he had something very important to add|0 Mother works better|1 Although I see your point I think it is dangerously naive given whats at stake to just hope the people of this country will make the mature and correct decision Yes the current policy will slow the spread a bit as a lot of people will stay away from these places But I know just from looking at my facebook feed that there are a lot of people out there that are ignoring thisWe are talking about a pandemic the likes of which we havent seen since the spanish flu in 1918 we need decisive leadership and we arent quite getting it yet We are talking about the difference between a 1 mortality rate if its handled correctly and a 7 mortality rate if its not and the NHS gets completely overwhelmed There is no room for hoping people do the right thing|1 Are you symptomaticIf not and you are not permitted to work from home just practice social distancing in other ways As long as you wash your hands often and dont touch your face the only way you will be infected is from sustained contact think like 10 minutes within six feet with someone who is infected Keep your distance at work if possible and practice social distancing in your social life My husband is a Physician Assistant who is currently triaging patients with COVID19 symptoms in our city Chicago He received training and passed along information to me That is where I got this information from Please know I am not an expert on this|0 Its simply just doesnt kill bears like mace can|1 My daughterinlaw is an ICU nurse in Edmonton They had meetings a few days ago They were told that 30 of the population might get the virus and it could get like Italy|1 Against Trump Just dont be a crazy old communist or a senile old man|1 Yeah and now they are a level up From regular triage to war time triage|0 The symptoms are a sore throatdry coughhead achephysically sore and then your lungs start filling with fluid at a very fast rate For a healthy personnot you if you cant hold your breath for 10 seconds or are noticing that you cant sleep except when in a sitting position you need to see a MD It could be bacterial or viralthis stuff But either way its bad It starts at the bottom of the lungs and works its way upUnderstand that France and Italy are reporting that 50 critical patients are under 50 years of agenot the Boomer Broomer they thought it was and they are also seeing spontaneous recurrence This thing is a meat grinder If you are screwing off on reddit and not drowning odds are you dont have it|0 Idk I live in a small less than 200 people town in rural OK work in a slightly bigger town pop of like 3000 and I cant find masks anywhere I was looking to buy them for my uncle who is 78 and my boyfriends dad who is 77 I even drove to Lawton which is about 40 mins from my home and I couldnt find shit for masks Home Depot and Lowes both were totally out of masks and hand sanitizer I didnt even bother to look at Walmart I found some toilet paper at a fully organic grocery store at least I didnt go all crazy buying it in bulk I just wanted the usual amount I buy because I let myself get down to 1 roll at the worst fucking time|1 Cool cool so when the banks come to the barrestaurant owners for their loan payments I guess DeWine will tell them to back the hell off s|0 You just sound like a Sinophobic asshole Chinese people arent soulless nonhumans|1 Trump reportedly rejected aggressive coronavirus testing in hopes it would help his reelectionhttpstheweekcomspeedreads902009trumpreportedlyrejectedaggressivecoronavirustestinghopeshelpreelection|1 then whats the analogy for school thats closed yet workplaces still go like usual those kids have parents who work so unless their parents also dont go out the kids will get inflected by their parents anyway|1 Pretty much everyone in my office just says its the flu and its totally overblown This is a big office Im hoping that they will see sense and close it down There are two confirmed cases in the town I live as of this morning Suspect that will be a lot more by the end of the week|1 i think the only way that will happen is if the local government mandates it but a friend of mine is related to people in our city government and she tells me that might be coming cant happen soon enoughediting to add forgot to mention that lowes is considered an emergency supply store so might end up exempted anyway|1 I appreciate you posting this Its wild seeing the experts in here who are making bold claims without even looking at the original manuscript|1 Fuck Man I live in king county The highest reported cases in the country Blah|0 And over here in Bulgaria im getting prepared for a real life battle royale next week lmao|1 I agree this does seem possible|1 With an economically free society all of itIts their at the end of the day I sense by that phrasing you are implying you are entitled to other peoples stuff|1 Yeah I also throw myself in front of trolleys aimed at people but I was the one who destroyed the trolleys braking mechanism I do it to watch the survivors guilt|0 Just remember you did the right thing Dont feel bad about that|1 Its the darkest of timelines|0 I was taking lisinopril until two days ago for high blood pressure an ACEinhibitorI called my doc and he switched me to a calcium channel blocker instead in an effort to reduce my ACE2 expressionsecretionIf I get sick hopefully it will be less sick|0 MERS has a different modus of transmission than this thank fucking god which is why its R0 is so low The climate makes no difference to MERS because very close contact in a closed setting is required in the first place|1 Insert Little Nicky laugh here|1 Pretty sure isopropyl has methanol put in it and I know for a fact its toxic aswell|1 At this point its just sheer incompetence|0 Except its misleading since it makes Covid look small because it uses current death stats Covid isnt done growing We dont know how big it will getedit since this chart was made Covid has killed 1900 more Also some of you are saying but it says that its ongoing so its not misleading and youre right that it says that It can be both accurate and misleading I believe it to be misleading since it shows the end state of all outbreaks except COVID and comparing an outbreak thats over to an outbreak thats ongoing can make the risks of COVID seem smaller than they could end up being even if the information here is entirely correct|0 Quarantined people reporting on the conditions they were held in The CDC admitted the positive test bungle had occurred CDC supplied tests have numerous inconclusive results These were all well covered news storiesAnd its not only the CDC that can do tests anymore and that was a stupid position they lasted to long to begin with It is still very limited though|1 Excellent point|1 You mean weve been training the diseases all along in some sort of fucked up Enders game against ourselves Fuck the illuminati is good|0 Thanks|1 Virus doesnt last as long on surfaces when its above 86 degrees F But higher humidity say 50 vs 30 makes the virus last longer|0 He is too worried about the skyfall of fume and ashes in China from the incinerators|0 Uhh if youre extremely wealthy you can hoard stillIf you do that at emergency prices you just injected a lot of money into the market for that commodity ensuring a lot more will be produced quickly the rich and panicky will finally be paying their fair share|1 Because most Americans wont do that without a diagnosis Guarantee it|0 What good is free CDC testing if theyre only testing dozens a day|1 By the time this many tests are rolled out well be on SarsCov3|1 coughs in orphan please mr gates may I have some more|1 httpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirustestingcdchtmlreferringSourcearticleShareBut German researchers were devising their own test which was quickly adopted by the World Health Organization for distribution around the world After the CDCs version turned out to be flawed the agency continued to pursue it despite the fact that another diagnostic test was already in wide use With FDA approval the agency could simply have embraced the test used by the WHO Dr Mina said The government could do so even now|1 He is definitely an ignorant slut Your comment made me laugh Thanks|1 Not good|0 Since you are elbowdeep in the source data what published data other than your own posts establishes the basis for your statement CV19 can be highly contagious but is not nearly as dangerous as earlier estimates predicted |1 Chloroquine shouldnt be hard to come by either The brand name is Aralen and its sold as a malaria prophylactic to people traveling to malariaendemic places I bet the army has a stockpile of it|1 Does this guy write blogs He should lol|1 Bill Gates has already donated billions of dollars to charity and continues too|1 Ech i dont think he uses speed but i agree that he is unhinged Maga people i know are taking this seriuosly even more than the democrat supporters i know So i guess your mileage may varyMost preppers are in the MAGA crowd you know|1 If it makes you feel any better I was supposed to have a friend move in with me this month but have made an excuse and delayed it hes fine he was just moving into mine cause that place hes at now is not as convenient for him and I delayed it simply because as much as I like the fella hes also in the its just a flu Camp and has been laughing at me for using sanitizer and all Ive never much liked germs and honestly I dont trust many other people to be as hygienic as I feel is required and I NEED to be able to feel clean and relaxed at home because its the only place in the world where I 100 do I dont think its out of bounds at all to want to feel safe and relaxed at home whatever that means to you Same as if someone is a nudist living with a prude its just not going to o work cause they dont respect each others position Or a caveman with a vegan it can work but likely it wont|1 And Xi Jinping has spent the past few years trying to revive traditional Chinese folk medicine so this falls squarely on his shoulder|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Youre right the paper only mentions 2 million US deathsIn total in an unmitigated epidemic we would predict approximately 510000 deaths in GB and 22 million in the US not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on mortalityBut even with mitigation measuresIn the most effective mitigation strategy examined which leads to a single relatively short epidemic case isolation household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly the surge limits for both generalward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined In addition even if all patients were able to be treated we predict there would still be in the order of 250000 deaths in GB and 1112 million in the USLockdowns look to be the only option left We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time The social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound Many countries have adopted such measures already but even those countries at an earlier stage of their epidemic such as the UK will need to do so imminentlyFate has dealt us a cruel hand Neil Ferguson has been infected after meetings at 10 Downing Street and hes selfisolating at home No news if his team have the coronavirus as well|0 My hope is just that they are using this time to prepare Prepare hospital beds equipment plans Ramp up PPE production prepare drugs work out logistics for potentially quarantined areas etcI know most will say they arent but the truth is most preparation would have to happen in secret people are stupid and will panic So yeah I just hope that this Calm and rationality approach is a veneer over the frenzied activity happening in the background|0 Im supposed to receive a job offer from a company in the restaurant industry and Im supposed to start early April Im legitimately worried theyre going to rescind the offer because of this|0 So stupid yet thousands of times more successful than youll ever be|1 Gonna spread like wildfire now|1 To be fair to P Hajdu Ford was implying that leaving Canada was fine Hajdu was saying stay in Canadanot literally the same thing|1 more factors cause death in COvid191 Immune shutdown neutrophilslymphocytes ratio extremely high no treatment2 Cytokine Storms treatments available 3 Lung injury 4 Organ failureChloroquine is ionophore allows Zinc to enter the membrane of cellsWhen inside Zinc inhibits replication of the virus|0 Assuming business people make logical business decisions and arent just vindictive This is reflected in the macro economy too where wages are constantly being squeezed and the consumer basket price keeps rising Peoples disposable income is going down while at the same time the employers creating the problem demand bigger and bigger profits|1 Are we talking about Margaret Harris statements If you watch her interviews she actually says the UK is very well preparedShe did say now is the time to act but that was a general statement when discussing the UK she was positive in her commentsEdit 5 min or so segment from her httpswwwchannel4comnewswehavegonefromgetreadytotakethisreallyseriouslywhosdrmargaretharris|1 5 less deaths today not a lot of good news to find these days but its something|0 What low IQ having Trogladite came up with that assessment Nobody cares about race china started this pandemic they should be held accountable|1 Its the same numbers as the Spanish flu And that killed 50 million people This will kill more because today there are more people than in 1918 and we travel by airplane now|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 He refused refunds to people that didnt want to attend given the whole situation Hes a total asshat|0 No touching your faceEdit thanks for the gold and silver|1 lol|1 Well if it helps I moved from Tennessee and its chill there right now lol Or so it seems|1 4 drop per degree C Grrrrreat We just all need to move to the sun and well be fine|1 Yeah but Italians are white people so its okay s|1 ha my mom said that to ME|1 Its never perfect The supply of tests isnt at billions globally were flying blind in a lot of places|0 Anything about Valsartan It was with ibiuprofen in the hoax and Im on it for high BP|0 The host is society Facebook and Twitter The expert represents literally any expert with facts and experiences on his sideAnd the whole interview is the perfect example of how every discussion on any relevant topic goes down these days|1 Wellthats terrifying news actually|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationPlease contact us if we made a mistake|0 Did you honestly expect otherwiseI think the American response had been exactly what most of us expected from them|1 Respect Rest in peace|1 Italy is also only reporting serious cases If you get coronavirus in Italy and it only manifests as a fever and cough youre not even counted among the sick|0 Indeed Hence Id thought it wold be helpful to report what happen in the most affected area|1 Absolutely A lot of my friends and family most in their 20s and 30s without children are completely unfazed by all this Meaning they have no supplies incase they need to self isolate and arent following hygiene protocols Im concerned with both my elder family members and also what this will do to economy and society I think well see some shockingly selfish behaviour in the next few weeks|0 Caring what stupid people think is a waste of time and energy |0 Im a budtenderIm curious too|1 You just dont understand How do you think the public will adhere when hundreds of thousands are hospitalized and dying Wuhan locked down for a couple of months you saying we would rather mass death than watching TV|0 Sure Why do you ask Did I imply this was not a consideration This took place over a month ago before the virus had the chance to become widespread|1 I have a question Literally everyone I know has had an upper respiratory thing the last few weeks It was almost like if you looked at someone who coughed you caught it If we know that most cases of Covid19 are mild and that its been circulating in the US for at least six weeks what are the chances that this recent round of illness was actually the novel coronavirus|1 Upskill into something techie and useful|1 I dont deny doctors get paid a lot But thats only after a decade of intense training where theyre either an unpaid student or underpaid resident or fellow If doctors loved money so much they wouldnt have gone to medical school in the first place Several of my classmates had engineering or finance jobs that paid 6080k a year straight out of college yet they decided to go into medical school and with it hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and 10 years of not making nearly as much as their previous jobs starting salary Financially speaking thats a terrible decision Yes doctors eventually get paid a lot But to imply that doctors are in it primarily for the money is simply wrong|1 Those videos were of panicking police officers who were in completely over their heads Its a city of 12 million people of course someone is going to overreact when theres a virus going around and people are dropping like flies However it was never an official or even widespread policy to weld people into their homes|0 We are all going to be experiencing housing insecurity in the coming months unless you have a lot saved in the bank Jesus how do you people not get whats coming This is when our government has to protect us and its not going to be with half measures like making it easier to apply for EI The majority of Canadians will need all our bills frozen as NONE of us should be working On top of getting something to help pay for groceries They can also provide relief to all businesses x200BYou obviously dont understand how society works Money has no value hell the CDN dollar isnt even backed by gold anymore People that need to work will continue working and after this shit slows down and we can return to some normalcy the Feds will have to step up Its 2020 not 1930 This stock market is crashing worse than before the Great Depression The majority of us are too educated and too used to our lives that we wont just go whelp Im a hobo now time to start living on the streets If they dont support people there will be social disorder riots and a lot more people dying TLDR Economy is already fucking done fuck your jobs protect people When its said and done were all going to need to be protected by a giant social welfare net cause the majority of Canadians are already in a freefall|0 Here I amTired asfbut well prepared|1 ya get back ASAP UK is going to be a disaster compared to Canada|0 Genuine question here Were quite lucky in that weve had a chance to watch other countries deal with the situation with different levels of success Surely we should take advantage of this by looking at countries like Japan and Singapore and work out what they are doing right or is not not that simple|1 They will blame China and keep praising Trump but dont worry about the rest of the world we really need a moron at the US presidency to become more and more antiimperialistsUS citizens keep doing the same shit and the world will finally give their back on you thanks|0 The Chinese Communist party is 100 responsible for this pandemicIn fact theres evidence they created it in a labhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvG0VJLYRhPHghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvG0VJLYRhPHg|1 hmm where are the dudes saying that China is evil for arresting the MDs warning of covid|0 Thats my thing but as others have said and I believe them If he is positive how likely is his administration to come out and be truthful to the country Or will they just lie and say everything is good Id bet the latter|1 Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few Oh well|1 Why are the details to be classifiedThis donothing senate is too wimpy to act|0 We had a month and a half to prepare for this and our response seems barely on par with chinasmaybe worse It is inexcusable|0 a lot of population is spread out maybe this will just be a city cancer|0 So what Im getting is I shouldnt panic quite yet|1 I work directly with immigrants from Iran China and Korea They WANT travel bansBut at the same time they admit that they can easily get around them if they want The issue is complex and to claim that the PM is ignoring professional health advice for political reasons is a serious accusation that should have some evidence to back it up|1 Found a boomer Working in a kitchen never provides the career progression to buy a house whereas it did decades ago Next argument|0 People are so selfish|0 I keep thinking that but never doubt the complacency of an american populace fed on a steady diet of Murdoch and corporatist controlled media|1 Thats weirdly hilarious|1 About 100 years ago it was It was a dark time for the world Wars were a blazing Stocks were atumbling And the Spanish flu which were only called that on account of there bein a free press in a neutral land She stormed across the globe thrice she struck The young were the hardest hit and the death rate were much lower considering how much medical intervention there is now|0 Youre just wrong|0 Italian footballsoccer team Juventus were playing in France Lyon yesterday Should of been cancelled Probably loads more cases in France now|0 My grandfather passed away yesterday and I currently live 8 hours away from where the funeral will take place on Tuesday Im not sure if I should drive or fly honestly pretty scared to flyAlso pretty nervous about traveling|1 Wouldnt walking into the hospital put them at greater risk then merely hiding out at home People are so dumb|0 I understand My husband is also in that field only he is not essential if they shut down or something I can only protect my daughter and I so much Ive been sanitizing his belongings and stuff without him realizing Anything helps|1 That still seems kind of risky given how many people have tested negotiable multiple times before finally testing positive|1 Also having the panic before the actual outbreak would give the supply chains and stores time to restock If the panic is delayed until the actual outbreak when part of the work force is out of commission will exacerbate any shortages It will also mean there will be more infected people moving in public trying to secure necessities|0 Uh I was just being funny|1 Yes and its very mountainous and pretty colddry in a lot of it|1 Its comforting to hear that black people are immune As an Asian this gives me hope that minorities cant contract this awful disease|1 This is wrong Taiwan was an observer in the WHO for years It is possible it has been done before But now China is playing politics|0 I bought stocks on Friday afternoon I dont purport to be able to call market tops or bottoms but this minipanic developed almost exactly as I thought and in my FB account pubicly said it wouldPanic in the last week of February with lows on Friday Feb 28th At that time I said wed rally halfway back to the Feb 12th high then roll over and retest those lows This is what happened and yesterday the market survived the test both intraday and closing Therell be more bad news and panic this month especially as a lot more test kits are shipped and processed Well get headlines about how many thousands of cases have been detected and no one will say much about the reciprocal which will be that the mortality rate will plungeSometime in April well get news about the trial results especially remdesivir and the panic will subside By then I will have bought more stable dividendpaying stocks and will be sitting on some nice gains this summer|0 Its possible that the health care system and the attention to the Virus is way more developed in South Korea Tbh its possible that the numbers from Korea are the most accurate numbers we can get at this timeThey seem to do a really great job|1 There was a german paper from a few days ago that said viral load persisted for some period of time then disappeared I think the average was 20 days after symptom onset longest they saw was 37 days|0 Looks like a ban on comercial flights tofrom China will follow|0 Lets get him out of the office now Fire him|0 So stupid and selfish|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 He said exercise too which for me is easy to mix with leisure if one needs to justify oneself for going out unnecessarily|1 Too many Americans literally believe that we are all living the top tier lifestyle available on the planet while the rest of the world outside of our borders live in mud huts and are governed by kings Too many people here dont understand the concept of a world that lives beyond our borders|1 Me too Im so relieved to be able to talk to other people who are feeling the same frustration|1 I am positive I had it a few weeks ago I had a dry cough fatigue body aches and was a little difficult to breath It lasted about 2 weeks and Im better now although still dont feel 100|1 While I understand youre just being the messenger that reasoning is horribly shortsighted which is odd considering I always thought Japans business culture tended to look farther into the future than the shortsighted capitalistic culture here in the WestCoronavirus spreads your elderly die your workers get sick Your country still has a workaholic culture Despite being sick the higher ups will force your workers to work then everyone gets sick then nobody can workEntire cities and prefectures get sick Nobody works your economy tanksNow your entire country is sick and your healthcare system which I know is one of the best in the world will be unable to stop the outbreak and your economy is tanksI really hope your government pulls its head out of its butt and is more proactive like Singapore is|0 All true but they are also being told not to watch mainstream media because that is fake all lies made up by devilish libs to try and destroy them|0 Internet is a utilityNot in a legal sense not yet It should be but it isnt And this is just falling into the same trap most redditors do They insist that things are the way they should be rather than the way they actually are The internet is not a utility in the US and its more than semantics that affects how its regulated|0 Im in the UK and weve made sure to get dried goods carbs pretty much tins and stock up the freezer We almost forgot pet food then remembered that thankfully If money is tight I recommend Iceland for frozen stuff and getting deals like buy one get one free where you can We got some long life milk so as not to rely on fresh Fruit juice squash teabags It didnt cost too much to get a good stock over the last couple of weeks|1 China is about to experience an extreme loss of economic progress overnight and is risking an extreme backlash from their people and revolt of the communist party Theres no reason for them to be honest right now CCP doesnt care about anybody outside of China that much should be clear They refused to close their borders and were clearly pressuring the WHO into pushing for continue travel Add this to what we know about their camps and how they treat noncitizens in those camps and you get to this conclusion every time Anybody who trusts the CCP after what weve been seeing here these last few days is a fool|1 Fear and misinformation from the nations leadership I cant blame them Were fucked|0 CDC says mortality is around 2 and given no one has natural immunity its a reasonable assumption that as much as half or more of the world will eventually get infected 2 of half the world is roughly 150 million Given the mortality rate will be much much higher in most of Africa and other poor countries|0 Im a seasonal asthmatic Comes and goes Particularly bad when Spring kicks in|0 httpswwwnaturecomarticless415640200688yutmsourcesnutmmediumreferralutmcontentnullutmcampaignBSLB4CA01GLBSLBUSGCA01GLLSGRPubHCoronavirusLandingPageAh sorry its the link from user shrine|0 theres nothing really that can be done its already in the country spreading why do people seem to think canada is some kind of special the only reason we dont have higher s is bc our testing is as great as we govt |1 Extremely important Since public transportation is highly dangerous today being able to drive your own car can be the difference between life and death|0 Seceral cases like that btw not just one|1 Thanks|1 But if you have a million dying patients isnt it better to have a million jenky machines than 10K perfect ones You can always conscript more people to watch the machines and make sure they keep working that doesnt take any technical skills|1 That doesnt mean he was able to infect others for 37 days He might have had low viral levels for 37 so low that heshe couldnt infect anyone unless that person spat in someones mouth and throat or something|0 Im going to start using gloves when getting gas No shame in my game|0 Ive heard hospitals are testing all patients presenting with flu symptoms plus those who have been diagnosed with influenza and are conducting randomized testing of patients with other ailments as a means of detecting if community spread is occuring in the hospital Not sure if the random testing extends to staff as well|0 We need to keep the numbers low to appease the one true god Dow Jones|1 Ironically when I was sounding the alarm Jan 28th that this was a huge fat problem coming to all of us I was called a troll I find comfort here I truly think there are some trolls but mostly people are just overwhelmingly stupid I have relatives flying to France tomorrow Like what the actual fuck|0 As an American who has been following this I feel that they need to immediately lock those in the chain of command in vaults Same with the presidential candidatesOtherwise things are going to get interesting|1 The messed up thing is that its super easy to lie and say Oh hey we suspect you have coronavirus come with us Then place him around other quarantined ill patientsAnd now he does have coronavirus|1 After reading the article I say GOOD More places need toAs I said before This is the third major part of our collective societal failings when it comes to serious risk of catastrophe How we deal with the start of the actual event Everything continues to move and act at a normal slow pace Nothing changes unless specifically pushed to do so Even in the face of clear reason to do so by itself Officials wont test people not coming from a certain place wont cancel large public events until told to once its too late treats infected and potentially infected people like its no big deal everything is done as if things were normal unless and until explicitly forced toThis aspect of society also needs to be changed in the aftermath of this One of many|0 Read through the lines they are waiting to declare something we dont know YET but well probably know in the near future What do you think this is Can someone make a prediction|1 Same protocol in my ER pills first they only use the injectable if you test positive at the urgent care centers here in NYC I think they went that route this year because there are so many people catching itOur ER has been full all most due to all the respiratory viruses and flu cases|1 I hope notChina and South Korea are such great examples on how to tackle this situation We got 2TWO And Italy is another example in another way like how quickly it can escalateIf our politicians dont learn from that yeah than I guess we can safely say that their only main driving thought process is Money People|1 We cant get tested here in Sydney unless we know weve been in contact with an infected person or someone whos been overseas Thats not something you can know if you catch a train to work|0 One persons conspiracy is other persons truth|0 Singapore is a real concern They are a small island country and H2H transmission seems to have camped out there I hope they can control it with public health measures|1 I cant tell if youre kidding or not but prevention of spread of a virus is a pretty solid upside of totalitarian dictatorship|1 I read that some experts I believe in the UK are thinking of relying on herd immunity or immunity from being infected which hasnt been proven is even possible with this virus sans vaccineWe are at a point where Italy is stopping life saving treatment of elders to focus on younger patients|0 I remember Chef doing charitable acts like this in the past too Dudes just always been a good guy These are the times that define us my friends|1 I would also be pretty quick to point out that their system of hiding cases and real number is probably what allowed this whole thing to spiral out of control In a society with free information we might have been able to get ahead of it As its looking now by the time anyone outside China found out about it it was already too late|1 This is why you cant yell fire in the US If you dont get on the band wagon youll be left behind Now well have two emergencies A virus and the ones left behind|1 Quarantine ends Run out the door with arms raised screaming Freeeeeeeedoooom Looks around perplexed Walks back into house|0 Fatality rate will increase but it shouldnt more than 2 I guess And I hope|1 Oh wow I havent ever seen this repeated on reddit before Great contribution|1 Thailand some of the group we were with had been to places like Malaysia Cambodia etc recently Symptoms basically standard flu coughing blocked nose and then a bit of a shortness of breath Hasnt got any worse since being tested atleast|1 Somebody today tried to argue with me that the CDC should not be responsible for tallying caseswelcome to America the land of the idiots|0 bruh Im straight up not having a good time right now|0 I live in VA central Virginia and almost no one is talking about it at all or seems concerned|0 Difficult to explain The same as my gastritis used to feel|0 Fox News was the source of so much bull shit about how this wasnt serious |0 this is a time when nations must come together and pool resources to battle a common enemy that is a threat to any human regardless of race religion economic or political views are we going to invade USA |0 Its a variation of immediacy biasWe humans focus on the now If we have a choice between a benefit now and a bigger benefit much later we choose the one howSo now these people see a different benefit not dying in a few months vs not dying in 20 years Its the immediacy of dying not the odds|1 Certainly in new markets where they are going head to head against others or expanding into Personally I havent been asked about my membership status since like 2010 But thats a very Western Cascades experience Im sure things are different in Brooklyn or Manchester|1 httpswwwcdcgovncehvspsurvgilisthtm2019Cruise ships are awful Im guessing they need to get people off and into proper facilities as soon as possible|0 Heres hoping its the ayatollah khomeini|1 I applaud you for your attitude I guess this is the point of view I should try to have so I wont take it so personally|1 I think it is less sticky and it is absorbed by the skin A few minutes drying should be fine|1 Yes stuffs are being removed perhaps not where you live but in my place they do that becouse of saving from imigrant crisis wake up|0 Seriously my favorite book of all time but its currently making me feel extra uneasy Anyone having some weird dreams and a sudden urge to move to Colorado|0 I switched to duckduckgo the day I read Google was trying to help China censor the web|0 Youve got to do better then that Firm and sensible will strike a lot deeper then ALL CAPS|1 Those 14 didnt receive results until back home tho right Those who tested positive before leaving were required to stay|1 A what Got a link to amazon|1 Herd immunityIn the absence of a vaccine this is the outcome we all hope for so we are doing our best to delay the spread of the virus by using containment and testing How are they going to ensure only a certain of the population has the virus at any one time without implementing a delay strategy Im not in UK so maybe I dont have the full picture|1 Its always amazing how many people dont understand how decades centuries and milleniums work There was no year 0 guys|1 bluechipsupplycom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 But there was no need for WHOever that man is to literally be rolling his tongue round Xis ae hole and making him out to be amazing Seriously Dont think hes the right man for the job and Xi dont even get me started on that specimen of pond life|1 I really really hope that baby is allowed to nurse or at least drink its mothers pumped milk That is literally its best defense right now|1 The cabin is actually pretty cool Its on an old parcel of paper company land that got sold off and broken into pieces They wouldnt let them buy more than one piece at first but over the years as theres been less and less interest my parents have bought up more and more land I think they have a square mile or so now|1 Why are young people being blamed Pretty sure its the age range of 40 60 who are to blame Theyre the ones not taking it seriously acting like it wont affect them Fucking idiots|1 Ah okay thank you|1 doomsday prepping httpsyoutubeQijTkZuxLY|0 Good job Trump All of our cases should recover shortly We may not get any more cases at all God bless America So glad I dont live in China or Korea Glad we shut down flights to China early We got this under control People in this sub need to relax I bet those critical of Trump were the same criticizing after the hurricane hit Puerto Rico and blamed Trump for not helping ignoring the piles and piles of food being withheld by corrupt politicians This is just the latest feeble attempt to smear Trump Russia and Ukraine failed You all are pathetic Havent you learned yet Trump always wins|1 ThanksI think science also has a long way to go in China We people are just starting to get educated in science and there are lots of misconceptions about various other stuffThe world is developing we all can do better|1 Here is the catch 22 If you think the CFR should be lower because of all the mild cases we are not counting then the R naught would be even higher than 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stay open in the summer to feed those students They have had time to set up a systemTeachers are not young like the students He is literally making them risk their lives Kids are going to have so much anxiety that they wont retain info|0 This We all know China has lied about the true scope of this from the start|1 No they are doing it because they can reasonably assume that if they test health care workers regularly they are able to confirm an infection before the viral load is high enough to actually infect other people|1 The number is no 180 students |0 Exactly the same I have a feeling that somebody over there isnt who they seem Meaning at least one mod might work for the Chinese government|1 they covered their asses quite late if i may add but cant say they didnt say it at some pointit was stating the obvious we all knew 23 weeks agothe difference now is WHO now has to spend money hence the delay|0 Thanks so much|1 Very unfortunately|0 Its not possible to isolate the elderly from the virus Its also not just the elderly who are vulnerable I am 51 and have weak lungs after an attack of pneumonia 2 years ago The governments policy is a direct threat to my life|0 Right makes no sense If the USA really cant figure it out then why dont they just ask literally any country that already has a good test to share the mystical technology with the USA so they can test properlyAre they trying to reinvent the wheel when lives are at stake This makes no sense|1 Im usually the one cheering for the X recovered but I never really cared about the number of new confirmed cases We know there arewere testing bottlenecks and even the WHO themselves said that just because it seems to be slowing down now it doesnt mean that it will not start growing more again|0 All true Depends on how much this thing mutates If a bunch of mutations then we would probably need annual or biannual vaccination If it stays relatively the same one vaccine with enough vaccination could probably rid the world of it|1 Based on shitty testing data With good testing data like in Korea its a lot lower|0 In Norway you would have a public pension you receive regardless which is independent of any developments in the stock market Then on top of that most employees have company paid pension savings plans that are usually structured quite broadly and conservatively not all in stocks If you have done your own pension plan on top of this and gone only after divident for that you might take a hit on that part of your pension if the company you have invested in needs this government help to survive How would that pension work out if the company went belly up instead|1 But Americans love to take cruises Fly around visit other countries and say Hold my Beer And people from other countries like to visit the USA|1 If we shutdown the airports every time a new disease pops up the airports would never be open There are a million things we could do that will save more lives than shutting down airports for example mandatory flu vaccinations|1 Its such a decentralized festival that it cant be 100 canceled|1 The level of cognitive dissonance necessary for this level of denial is truly amazing|1 Mortality rate is kind of a difficult thing to calculate since it doesnt actually measure the deadliness of the pathogen by itself How many people die is heavily affected by external factors IE whether or not the local infrastructure is able to handle it or provide the necessary medical servicesIn this case I would say that the confirmed deaths infected point to the mortality rate being quite high 2 give or take mortality rate sounds low until you realize thats about TWENTY to FORTY times that of the seasonal flu 005 to 01 mortality rate The flu kills like 1000060000 people a season in the US and the US has a population 4x smaller than ChinaExtrapolate those numbers and youll notice that theres potential for MILLIONS of deaths in China The main reason why it hasnt been that way is because people have a fairly lackadaisal attitude about the flu I should get a flu shot but man I really dont want to go a half hour out of my way after work to Walgreens or Vaccines are poison leading to higher infection rates and poor treatment whereas the full might of the CCP machine is trying to put a lid on nCoV|0 This works well since restrictions on immigration is firmly in place Without this first you would be seeing so many people with alien status going there just to seek free medical treatments|1 We have tested 1007 people as of 224 so 10 to your arbitrary number httpswwwcdcgovmmwrvolumes69wrmm6908e1htmscidmm6908e1w|1 Well the main thing is there are zero signs of us defaulting on our debt in the foreseeable future so its not in anyway something we should be concerned about|0 huh yeah he lies of course even the TV transmited that his tests were negative but its all lies sure thing|0 I agree and Im super scared if it spreads here Personally I waited a week to seek medical attention when I had a health issue I only went to the urgent care when my organs were failing and I turned yellow from jaundice It cost me over 50000 obviously I couldnt pay that at 23 so I just had horrible credit for seven years or so Now my credit is near perfect and I refuse to go to the hospital Im a new business owner with no insurance and Ill be fucked|0 You have every right to be upset Our governments on ALL levels should have been proactive weeks ago Remember the people who told us that our risks were low and are still telling Canadians the same Always remember the same politicians and connected bureaucrats will bump others when it comes down to who gets those respirators when shit hits the fan|0 Bad news youll be doing all these things in a couple weeks regardless of how it works when new coronavirus cases start arriving faster than all other arrivals put together But okay business as usual it is then until reality hits like the atom bomb Dont say we didnt try to warn youAre the people in charge of your hospital not paying attentionShare the reality with themhttpstwittercomsilviast9status1236933818654896129s20httpsimgurcombcZJ3z1|0 Can you go into more details I am confused by your answer|0 Were are DOOMED|0 I wish they would so I could just work from home We were gathered and harshly spoken to today basically saying we need to get rid of any ideas of not coming to work because of irrational panic We were told if we dont come to work we will not be paid and if we stay home for any extended period we will be let go90 of our office personnel can do their job from home and we have all been supplied with the computers Mouses keyboard docking stations etc to work from home upon hire Yet our CEO says working from home is only for those who are sick and not to be implemented company wide|0 One of the easiest sacrifices is just to give up our social life for a few weeks But holy some people are acting like theyre going to prison for their whole life Literally youre saving lives by sitting on your couch watching TV but you want to go outside and get drunk to kill people|0 Sure take my 16 pennies and then we both starve|0 For the love of god please start having a dialogue with your friends and familyIm in the US in a region that is probably more affected than most A week ago I felt like you hoping it would blow over and we could get back to normal life in a week My mom asked me just yesterday if I wanted to take my kids and their cousins to the park This was hours after news that our Governor is shutting down restaurants and bars putting a ban on public gatherings and k12 schools are suspended for the next 6 weeks I fear we will inevitably move towards mandatory quarantine by the end of the weekI had to have a hard discussion with my mother because shes exactly the type of person this virus is not kind to I got through to her but for every understanding person there are dozens more that just dontwont get itTalk to your family now set boundaries and please adhere to rules and regs set by your government Stay safe friend|1 Not in china but i saw reports that they are working hard to provide enough food in the markets because noone wants a starving population If you have food you can peacefully isolate yourelf in the apartment If you have no food you are going to fight humans in a crowd for scraps|0 How do the circles work Im also from Seattle area I know marysville school closed down due to a staff member testing positive but Marysville doesnt fall in the red also first case being in providence in Everett seems likely the circle would be centered around there|1 Okay I can see why you think that but youre probably wrongThere has been many reportsconfirmedrumoreddebunked of infected people leaving Wuhan to go to other parts of China whether knowing they were infected or not This is an obvious problem as it makes it much harder to contain and track this outbreak in my view it is justified Also this new virus can spread itself before symptoms show The only way to be totally safe is too block off the roads Note that they are using dirt a very temporary measure it can easily be cleaned up so this lock down is probably intended to be short term|0 A good explanation from MNI Hubei added 14840 new cases of coronavirus todayFor context Hubei has been changing its reporting method in the past few days not just today First it moved suspected cases to a new category called clinical diagnosed cases which led to almost 10k decline in suspected cases in Hubei The number of clinical diagnosed cases were not reported until yesterday we added that number back to suspected cases to show the overall trend Today it is decided that clinical diagnosed cases should be classified as confirmed casesWhat are the different categoriesSuspected cases definition are different inoutside Hubei provinceOutside Hubei1 from Hubei or have record of contacting people from Hubei orand2 fever3 white cell comes down4 shade in the lung in CT or Xray this is defined as suspected cases after two positive tests of the virus it becomes confirmed caseInside Hubei if the patient meets 1 2 and 3 suspected casesIf the patient also has 4 clinical diagnosed cases after two positive tests of the virus it becomes confirmed caseWhat Hubei did are1 to expand suspected cases to monitor more patients2 to now include clinical diagnosed cases as confirmed casesThere has been one off adjustment to death as well ie 135 death reported under clinical diagnosed cases These were deaths in the last 4 days that didnt have time to test|0 First off theres no way there will be 12 million people infected close to Mexico so dont worry about that Second masks are not affective against the virus httpswwwnytimescom20200229healthcoronavirusn95facemaskshtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200229healthcoronavirusn95facemaskshtml If you can buy hand sanitizer it can help to prevent the virus Also the virus doesnt like dry places so try these tips httpswwwhunkercom12002792howtodehumidifyaroomwithoutadehumidifierhttpswwwhunkercom12002792howtodehumidifyaroomwithoutadehumidifier i dont know if these work but you could try Also danajsparks gave some great advice in the comments so theres that|1 Maybe we have different ideas of serious number of false negativesI consider even 1 in 1000 false negatives a serious number And I think were well above that But the point is even if its 1 in 10000 that is enough to hopefully explain the cases of reinfectionIt is not evidence by any means but the math works So |1 Who knew that quarantines were so effective at slowing down disease spread|1 They ruin housing markets in popular destinations|0 Yeah people made a big deal about the pig but the burning banknotes is more indicative of the kind of sociopathy elite boarding schools foster|1 What are if we cannot laugh in the face of death|0 Did you post the wrong link This article is about social security for freelancers and small business owners There is no mention of bailouts for corporations who are paying dividends and management bonuses|1 South Korea is being more honest in their reporting Japan is only testing the very ill and theyve pretty much given up on containment Its definitely circulating among the general public here A health official informed the news yesterday that if they came down with a cold to not go to a clinic but wait to see if the disease becomes worse or is treatable at home He went on to say that clinics and hospitals are places youre more likely to catch the disease so youre actually safer staying at homeIt was nuts|1 whatta you sayina me no italiano|0 They should just get a good treatment in place which I think is close and let people under 50 or 60 work and have older people quarantine until we have a better vaccine which could take a while|1 Theyre just doing this because it costs them nothing employees will be able to file for extended leave if it goes any longer and they will pull from their PTO Their bottom line isnt hurt by it at allNow nobody will criticize them if their doors are still open when a full blown pandemic hits the nation Fuck Walmart|0 The first patient did need oxygen it wasnt just isolation The doctors quickly responded after initial pneumonia symptoms with the coronavirus antiviral drug which quickly stopped the infection httpswwwnejmorgdoi101056NEJMoa2001191|1 Upgraded from a Threat to a Ridiculous Threat and now to a Ludicrous ThreatNext theyll be going to plaid|0 Come on its disingenuous to make this sort of assertion Bernie isnt some sort of goldhearted messiah I agree this is a necessary measure as do both sides of the American political spectrum it seems but Sanders isnt even close to being the first person to bring it up|1 I work in a major grocery store and Im not going to lie it has been terrifying lately People for the most part have been pretty understanding but knowing Im going in everyday risking my health is scary I have to go Im just coming off short term disability and I desperately need a steady paycheck I just hope that people continue to be understanding and that my coworkers and I continue to stay healthy|0 Media is only broadcasting the most skeptic voices|0 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rConoravirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I hope they both get charged|1 Thats actually amazing that they can establish that kind of order Black Friday in the US is more terrifying than this When nothing else matters anymore waiting for a couple hours for food is not a big deal|0 You could have a false back to the computer that slides to the side to show a cheat sheet|0 Hey man you cant shit talk Pence like that Show some respect s|1 No thats the whole point of doing studies in healthy volunteers we have only a limited idea of what this drug will really do in human beings so we try to disclose as much as we can from what we learned from the animal studies In the informed consent process the volunteer is made very aware of how many people have actually taken the drug and that there is a lot we dont know|1 Gone sexual lmao|1 Im pretty sure this video is nearly a week old from when the quarantine on the ship beganThings are probably a lot more dire now|1 Theyre excluded httpsfilesncgovgovernordocumentsfilesEO117COVID19ProhibitingMassGatheringandK12SchoolClosurepdf|0 Many New Englanders imagine they live on the edge of the world Just because a hill blocks their site line to the city they drive to every morningLol So isolated You have to drive through Connecticut before arriving at a planetary hub of global society and commerce I work with someone who commutes from Connecticut to PhillyMeanwhile people in Billings need to drive 12 hours through the Rocky Mountains just to find a city with over a million people|0 Sorry I dont wanna waste anymore time in idiosyncracy You do you BUD Goodluck on the coronavirus|1 Thats not true The Spanish flu deaths plummeted during the northern hemisphere summerhttpsimagesappgoogl2LYAToFAoyohNmAg6|0 Case and point with animal Crossing they dont support cloud saves Nintendo is too inconsistent for me with what is and isnt apart of their online servicesPlus over been burned in the past losing saves on games I bought digitally back on the 3DS|0 dude wow this is tough lonely stuff dang|1 Thats awesome for your wife and for you as well Hoping the situation in DC clears up speedily|1 There are certainly reasons to criticize the decision but this isnt a bailout The Federal Reserve buys bonds and other securities from the banks There is an actual transaction happeningA bailout would be heres free money without any sort of collateral|1 owns a completely unrelated businessSounds pretty broke to me|1 And other counties are only checking you if youve been to China or had contact with a confirmed case So if there is a community infection were totally gonna miss it until the bodies start piling up|0 Trust us we are trying I apologize that our president is a disgusting human being|1 If they had visited Amazon then everyone would be freaking out|0 Thats why Reddit choose it Truth is dead everything is narrative management|0 Too too but agreed|1 Wisconsin population 5814 million I think they can safely conceal the identity of said patient even if they disclose the gender even the age|1 i worked at a grocery store for many years and would always wear gloves on register for germs and not getting cuts on my hand apparently customers would complain to our managers about it and be like why do they have to wear gloves are they sick its like broim wearing gloves so i dont get sick so you dont get sickim sorry youre getting shit i basically kept doing it bc i knew they were bluffing about writing me up in this particular storeof course its a unique situation for every employee everywhere tho|0 As a critical care doctor Im increasingly concerned about the prominence of that post and another one both of which to be fair I also shared with colleagues out of concern to increase quarantine measures in my cityThing is if you have a town like these with about 50000 people and three nursing homes get infected so fifty patients turn up with respiratory failure the result is a complete swamping of the infrastructure health care workers on duty twenty hours a day and neglect of everyone not quite as sickMy question would be is that experience generally applicable Is it the same in Milan or are they just doing an orderly reshuffle of resources and getting by Is it a problem which had it not happened so suddenly could have been managed by moving patients to other centres or moving health care workers and equipment into the towns I am so keen to work out which is the caseEDIT one of them was in Corriere a highly respected Italian newspaper then translated and shared around|1 I just dont underatand why not online since some of our courses are already entirely online as is Our PowerPoints and reading materials are online The quizzes and tests are online We submit out essays online Why not just record the lectures at home and post them On top of that while we arent being forced to because of what were studying theyre asking us to help with research Dunno if its in person|1 Its the same with the Diamond Princess theres only 36 serious cases out of 705 If 20 of the people who get the virus have serious cases youd expect 140 patients to be serious I imagine thats not correct either since most people on cruise ships tend to be older so it should likely be greater than 140|1 Only 10 pages of removalsWhats wrong with asking where I can get Campbells Cream of Bat soup on rcoronovirus |0 I agree its when ICU space medical staff and supplies have run out thats when it hits the proverbial fan|1 Are you saying that the current mortality rate in Italy is 375 Technically yes But it will come down like it did in Wuhan which also had a crazy high mortality rate early on as more of the milder cases recover People who are already in fragile health are going downhill and dying more quickly than people are recovering|1 It might be that the flu shot offered was better fit than usual here Shouldnt the season be mostly passed anyway even in US Im not doubting that there has been flu as well but it still being active and considered noticably worse than normal by laymen just sounds odd|0 Im right outside Albany as well Be safe my friend|1 Young will have a stronger immune system generally but that doesnt mean they wont get this infection and potentially pass it to others as a carrier|1 Yes lets get all the old people together to spread it at once|1 4 Lol try to find the mroughtourist multireddit theres like 40 but yeah I usually only hit up a few as well|1 Ouch John that hurt|0 Candles are nice tho |1 Also outside of US amazon is not even the dominant delivery purchasing site|1 Ayyy horrors aside thats a collectors item|0 Its really hard to say especially when the original WHO report combined the all of the mild cases to include mild pneumonia which doesnt seem very mild at allOne study stated that Italy has hospitalized half of its infections 4500 people hospitalizedDoes that mean that during the Italy outbreak half of the infected experienced respiratory problems that required hospital care I dont knowTheres a lot that we dont know right now It seems hasty to draw any concrete conclusions either way|0 Ohhhhh now I know why my parents stopped mocking me|0 Im watching what businesses do If they stay open and or put customers at risk during this time they will lose my business There was a popular new bar near me that stayed open on Friday and hosted a popular local event that was previously cancelled due to coronavirus at the original venue I couldnt believe how irresponsible they were being So many people went over the weekend and surprise surprise the numbers DOUBLED in my state NEAR the same location|1 the idea of betting against the amount of innocent people losing their lives doesnt sit well with me for some reasonNo indeed I was angry and despairing when I wrote that and also more than a little drunk The fuckwits that you talk aboutI maintain the belief that these people are fuckwits gambling the lives quite literally of millions of us on their pet theories rather than taking the decisive action we have seen elsewhere Any how stay safe and good luckLikewise and wash your hands |0 But the fitter your immune system is the higher the likelihood of a cytokine storm|1 Singapore is also humid as fuck while Saudi Arabia is decidedly not Im no expert but thats probably an important factor|1 Of course its fair The first hand sanitizer costs very little The second hand sanitizer has to cost more to be fair because it has to include the cost of denying other people hand sanitizer during a pandemic since theres not enough for everyone to hoard Other alternatives include strict rationing or letting whoever comes first buy them all and then resell them for profit|1 I retract dont want to find it|0 I found something on FAHs website httpsfoldingathomeorg20200227foldinghometakesupthefightagainstcovid192019ncovhttpsfoldingathomeorg20200227foldinghometakesupthefightagainstcovid192019ncov Unfortunately at this time it doesnt seem like theres a way to dedicate cycles to just 2019nCoV so were all just contributing resources to the pool of systems that could participate in the 2019nCoV folding project|0 Not saying its made up or that the source is not reliable But after months of downplaying the situation they cant change publics opinion with just text stories people need brutal reality shown in raw state videos and pictures Ive been saying this for 2 months already that people wont give a shit when shtf|0 No need to test people with mild symptoms They should isolate at homeOn the other hand if we could have drivethru testing for their associates who seem healthy but may just be asymptomatic that would be useful|1 The flatten the curve graphic shows capacity to care for people increasing though its not essential to the point it makes of course which made me wonder if anything is being done in the United States or other western countries to increase capacity Are funds being allocated to train and pay additional workers Do we have a model for how people trained on short notice can relieve the burden on highly trained health care workers Is there any program for ramping up production of needed supplies beyond hoping that manufacturers do so themselves in anticipation of demand|1 You want to totally destroy our economy Cause thats how you destroy our economy The way I see it China is the 2nd richest country Its because of so much of their failure this occurred We need to divest and decouple from them over time They have proven to be an untrustworthy partner multiple times this is the camel that broke the straws back IMO|0 Im in Michigan medium sized town I guess I cant see people listening unless forced Im already getting made fun of for staying home and not going outSilly me|1 they had plants to implement this system but we never got a confimation of them actually implementing it I guess they got better things to do now|1 How are people going to get their Ontario Cannabis Store deliveriesI think they should just leave everything at the door at this point most people are going to be home anyways|0 This is key Ventilators arent on autopilot They need careful monitoring and there are limits to how many a single person can manage|1 Do they help people get their suitcases on and off the bus like they do in the US|1 I hate that logic If you even cant afford to be sick then what makes you think that everyone else can|0 Man think about all the crazy shit a 98 year old in China has seen and survived He was born 1922|0 They clearly need to figure that out if someone was released and was positive Whats the point quarantine if you release infected people|1 This does nothing when he is backpedaling from his stance its just the flu while barring medical professionals from sharing their opinions on covid This does nothing for the infected that are here and spreading This is too little too late|1 I know I was adding to your point I agree completely so many people are in the dark about what to do so many people especially the 40 with mild symptoms are going to become spreaders they cant get the support they need whether thats testing financial support information etc The only answer is a complete shut down full quarantine give money back to the people out of that 40 of the GDP they take from us and weather the storm|0 It does look good but def need to take into account the lower number of test results and of positive resultsAlso its 2 days of lower results If the rest of the week follows suit then I might start feeling better about things|1 Damn that is a shame and the doctor was quite young I hear which is alarmingThe CCP needs to chill out and get rid of this censorship he got arrested by the local Wuhan police and forced to apologise for spreading rumours Then the highest Supreme Court of China told off the Wuhan police for being idiots its all a mess|0 The US is full of understaffed hospitals and rural areas with NO local hospital whatsoever or a super shitty one|0 Apparently the 3 tested positive were elderly people attending some sort of retirement community gathering in Rockville|1 Even looking at an individual country over time isnt helpful if testing criteria changes during that period which is likely|0 Lmao a flow chart where one path is only one item long Half the board was white space|1 Faith in humanity Restored|1 On the plus side Dallas owner Mark Cuban said he was gonna ensure a program for hourly workers in the building|1 Virgin embarrassed at checkout buying rice VS chad hazmat suit gas mask in public|0 Literally today a very intelligent person told me how the flu kills more I cant even|0 Im so sorry to hear that Can I ask what your business doesdid|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 They will be like in all quarantine places in order to ask for identification|1 We are still allowed to go for a walk but alone or with a person we live with We just have to avoid other people And i think thats the best thing we can do right now |1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 You are welcome to tell the Italians that they dont want them and tell them to send them back to China|1 Its actually way better if most people go around unprepared and uninformed If the true nature of this word be broadcast in a way that was wellreceived by the public Panic would ensue quite quickly|1 You could but its extremely unlikely If you came back positive from a strain of the flu then its the flu If you start developing pneumonia in a few days then you should go back|0 Anyone have any thoughts or analysis of this paper Specifically the memantine aspect as the other medicine would be pretty problematic and is stated as being less effective as an antiviral agent Other medicines similarly based on the Adamantane backbone are actively used for treating viral infections amantadine is commonly used for the fluId imagine there is data somewhere about fatalitiesinfection rates among elderly patients receiving Namendamemantine for Alzheimers The study states that a supratherapudic dose in humanrat cells had a marked effect on viral replication though Id imagine the dose would need to be scaled down for humans as is often the case with these things The study also shows statistically significant effects on the studied coronaviruses even at smaller dosages for the sake of trying to divine effectiveness from the data|1 That is the thing right Show me a graph of the number of tests given in each country What do you want to bet that follows the same exponential line most of these countries showSouth Koreas line may look the way it does because they are doing pervasive testing and what you are seeing is the tail end of the virus infection The testing in the US is so pathetic and biased in its sampling methodology that it is irresponsible to try fitting the results to a curve of any shape It might only look exponential because our testing rollout is exponential Show me this chart when the US has done a random test of its population I bet dollars to doughnuts that it will look like SK|0 Yes thats where its trending Waiting for Germany and South Korea to update us|1 bro ur not allowed to focus on things happening to u because bad things are happening to people in other placesi am very smart for noticing these things happening to other people and will use it to feel superior and more worldly than u plebs|1 I saw something about using table salt on masks Like spray it on and after it crystallizes the salt kills anything that comes into contact Cant hurt to coat the outside of the mask|1 Because the original poster of this video said she was bumping into the man before he asked her to quit then she ripped his mask off and said she was going to infect him Literally what I just said except youre cutting out that she was bumping into him which is what provoked this interaction in the first place But sure live with your head in the sand|1 The entire Kaepernick thing was a Fuck You from Trump to the NFLHell his entire presidency is a Fuck You to Obama for making fun of him dismantling everything he can regardless of his understanding of it or its actual value|0 Ever think of how many people go to Disneyland and other theme parks daily Supermarkets shopping malls major hotels tourist destinations Lets be realIf the virus is really as scary as everyone is saying then essentially every major country in the world is already an epicenter just lack of testing|0 Wasnt that the case already I think soRandomly searching YouTube for bloggers find people who seem to think its illegal to be outside even last week for example this girl httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvdXLFiHXsx50httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvdXLFiHXsx50But theres nobody enforcing it like in other places No checkpoints etcIts kind of amazing how little people who live there seem to know They are like is it legal to go outside Maybe Am I supposed to call someone to get food Whats going on|1 Honest question if this a letter written to a South Korean doctor by a Chinese man why is it written in English is English just a universal language|1 Right So they are effectively engineering waves of this thenSo its pick a wave 1st wave 2nd wave I feel like a lab monkey|1 Because China bad and if billions of them arent dying everyday its obviously because theyre covering it all up|0 Fuck Disney Remeber that they did this|0 Pardon my ignorance but can someone explain to me like I am 5 what this is|1 US Embassy to China press releasehttpschinausembassychinaorgcntheunitedstatesannouncesassistancetothenovelcoronavirus which said the US facilitated transportation of 18 tons of donated goods USAIDhttpswwwusaidgovnewsinformationpressreleases Prior to March 10 the US only gave a million to Laos Since then theyve given gear to Thailand Kyrgyz and Tajikistan None of the one million was reported as being spent on ChinaEditsnapshots of the Chinese translation used by the US embassyhttpsmweibocn17085750334472386059099786 The Chinese in the first picture translates back to The US government donated the 18 tons of medical equipment and was posted by the US embassy in ChinaThe Chinese version of the statement also makes it sounds like the 100 million was at least partially going to China|1 Not so fast It has been mentioned multiple times that if you were not confirmed infected and you die you are not added to the official tally You cant count the 20000 as officially infected and cant count their deaths as from the virusWith that said you cant arrive at a mortality rate using infected suspected deaths Only infected deaths will work unless China CDC gives us numbers on suspected cases who died|0 Lancelot Hong Kong doctors on January 24th They want us to stay calm|1 What do you mean white people havent had bad symptoms from the virus There have already been several hospitalizations from COVID in France which is how they got diagnosed with the virus in the first place Asian countries are also more rigorous in testing for the virus who knows how many people got diagnosed with the flu in Western countries when they actually have the coronavirusIts way too early anyways to judge the virus has only just begun to spread to Western countries|0 I get it Trying to not stress will cause more stress Just allow yourself to feel how youre gonna feel We just got the baby home and acclimated with our 18 month old We are all feeling a little under the weather and very tired and worried Take some comfort in knowing that your doctors know that the virus is already here and can take precautions I have been dealing with doctors that have been in denial about this outbreak the past 3 weeks It was only today did I see them wearing masks And they lied to us and told us it was for the flu Her OB 2 weeks ago told me the virus wont show up in the US like it is in other countries|1 Well Dr Barics professor from UNC so I dont think hes some quackBut if you dont want to believe more power to yaPersonally I think that 31 patient in S Korea who infected hundreds must have been due to aerosol|0 Or not cautious at all Someone asked me for bar suggestions last night for their birthday I said your living room and they said lol I cant just stay inWHAT|1 The market dont care about you dead or alive You know the funny thing about being dead You wont ever know youre dead No reason to be afraid of something you wont even know happened|0 My deductible is literally 7000I know that sounds like a joke but its not And I pay 525month for the privilege|1 I think China will spend the next 6 months making all the stuff the rest of the world needs to fight the pandemic while their economy spins back up|0 A Supposedly Fun Thing Ill Never Do Again|1 Yes Politics is a joke|1 They should do this everywhere it would help prevent hospitals for being over worked|1 Hello World I am Dr Riciu Andrei board certified dermatologist from Europe with a strong interest in infectious diseases and fellow moderator at rDermatology Ive been keeping a close eye on the SARSCoV2 epidemic since it only numbered a few cases in the Wuhan Hubei province I remember reporting on a medical website I had back in 2011 about a Dutch Researcher that created a superinfluenza virus as a research project that was hypothesized to be able to infect millions simply by combining five distinct natural mutations into one H5N1 strain The times we live in right now arent pretty much different except this time the virus is not in a cell culture locked in some research facilityThe emergence of SARSCOV2 that has spread from animals to humans gave birth to a true pandemic in a matter of monthsThe abundance of fake news and claims being spread over the internet as we speak generate a lot of panic and irrational behavior that obviously does more harm than goodI managed to get a team of dedicated medical professionals data scientists and programmers and we decided to create a resource website dedicated to the new Coronavirus SARSCoV2 pandemic in order to help as many people as we can gain access to reliable medical information documented sources as well as statistics regarding the COVID19 disease outbreakPlease let us know what other new features you would like to see on the website We are really keen on helping as much people as we can gain access to safe and reliable medical information in order to better fight this horrible outbreakMeet Our TeamDr Riciu Andrei board certified dermatologist from Europe with a strong interest in infectious diseases rookie web designer and moderator at rDermatology reddit Dr Riciu came up with the website idea after having a hard time finding a single source for accurate data regarding the COVID19 pandemic You can find Andrei on the dedicated CoronaVirus Discord server where he tries to reply to as much questions as he can on a daily basisAlex Dumitru Alex is both our frontend as well as backend web developer He spends most of his day aggregating statistics about the COV19 pandemic and presents them in a digestible manner on our homepageDaniel Hay The man with the curiosity to explore what problems need to be solved Daniel is part mathematician part computer scientist and part trendspotter He joined our team after finding our website on RedditDr Aarav Dumont Anaesthesiologist from India Dr Arav that comes with all the new chart and graphics ideas for Daniel and Alex He is currently getting his PhD in medical scienceDanny Danny is a nutrition and physiology BSc student and the latest member of our team While wishing to remain anonymous Danny kindly donated a large social media account Twitter to aid us in our cause bringing curated medical information and acurate COVID19 data to the publicThis website is founded entirely by ourselves and we do not accept any sponsorships from third parties because our main goal is data integrity and information trustworthinessPlease click here to read more about thisOur SourcesIn our struggle to get the most accurate data possible were using literally over a hundred sources every day including official government data and private trackers The data is gathered both manually and automaticallyHeres our list of sources well list them all here if requestedWHO and most local governmental websitesJohns Hopkins Coronavirus Research CenterArchives Of Clinical Infectious DiseasesUS National Library of Medicine National Institutes of HealthACS PublicationsNaturecomAll of our articles resources and news are based on reputable medical sources that can be found in the footer section|1 Yeah its only cute and funny because hes a kid and innocent|1 China can use military force to quarantine good luck doing that in the US|1 Nah just people being massive fucking assholes They want others to suffer like they are Same thing happened with people with aids People who contracted it purposefully spread If they have to live with it so do other people mentality Asshooooles|0 Yea thats crazy Im lucky enough to be in a small school district They are communicating with us via email and we were told to look for further communication on Monday as to how and when we are picking up these packets I hope your school district figures it out soon Good luck|1 very true |1 Reddit is great to use ALONGSIDE what media is giving you but it should not be your only sourcePut it this way if you spend all day on rpolitics or on mango mans fanboy sub all day youre gonna be just as uninformed and lacking nuance in your opinions as you would just being a sheeple watching mainstream media and consuming mainstream digital outletsThe problem right now is the onus has moved to the individual to do the selffiltering of media You are given so many takes opinionspretendingtobefactualnews and poorly framed news pieces that you end up having to second guess what media sites say about common hot button issuesThe terms Trust but verify should be everyones MO these days because of the polarization Get verification of stuff especially things that agree with your worldview see if you can get that same verification from sites you normally do not go to if they say the same thing then you at least know the facts for whatever youre looking up are true|1 Theyll stop treating it like the flu when the managers get it As per usual|0 Hes helping humanity by cleaning up the Gene pool|1 Hopefully its cheap to make|1 yes|1 No its not compare US to Europe Europe has a much lower poverty rate Stop sprouting trump like nonsense|0 Thank you|1 Dont give any to antivaxers and see how they like it|1 And your Wuhan videos told you the exact percentage of young people with severe symptoms|0 We cant control things outside our country but we can control how we respond here which has been criminally negligent trump didnt want testing because he didnt want the numbers to go up he spread misinformation on fox He should stripped of any wealth he has and made to pay reparations to every family that loses its loved ones in America because of this|1 Do you happen to have a source for that last claim Im curious and want to read into it|1 You realize if youre that afraid you can open the door with a paper towel Nothing is perfect and you cant go through life avoiding everything that extensively Itll cause you to end up with no immune system and no defense when you actually catch something The best thing to do is wash your hands and live your life It sounds like the start of germophobia when you start thinking like this|1 Well just criminalize it under martial law and they get it confiscated and put into the community stockpile for distribution to the vulnerable and less fortunateOnce order is restored they can go sit in a cage for a while|1 Ive sunk about 800 hours into this game Come hang with us if you want to waste some time httpswwwredditcomrStellariscommentsf2rzfmstellariscommunitymultiplayerdiscordmondayhttpswwwredditcomrStellariscommentsf2rzfmstellariscommunitymultiplayerdiscordmonday|0 I usually like Jurgen but this is just hypocritical of him a couple of years ago he talked about how Brexit doesnt make sense and that the people should vote again Whether or not you agree with him doesnt matter its still the same bad shaved famous guy talking about politicshttpswwwtheguardiancomfootball2018apr23brexitmakesnosenseandbritainshouldvoteagainsaysjurgenklopphttpswwwtheguardiancomfootball2018apr23brexitmakesnosenseandbritainshouldvoteagainsaysjurgenklopp|0 Would have loved to see the data on smoking versus nonsmoking However this a really solid proof and it should put a stop to the debate about ACE2 levels for now at least when it comes to transcription level Protein level should perhaps be checked to verify the result|1 So how about all those panicked Costco shoppers|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 The testing here has been backlogged already I have a son at UC Boulder and I am hoping they shut it down sooner rather than later|1 In exactly the same situation here 29yo asthma symptoms I was so annoyed after the 111 process that they didnt even want to give me the time of day because I havent been travelling or in contact with a confirmed case So much for them apparently being so concerned about community spread therell never be any of you dont allow your testing to cover that Headburying and sand come to mind|0 Are you kidding me OP Because you are describing the coronavirus down to minute details you should go to the ER tell them your house had Chinese students in it and tell them your symptoms They should do a CT scan of your chest Ive watched a LOT of videos and read a lot of news articles on the coronavirus You could say Ive been obsessed with it I have ADHD and hyper focus and my hyper focus has been focused on it since January 26thAll accounts of the coronavirus mention that patients get worse in the 3rd week They go through a couple weeks of being sick they start to feel better then get worse in the 3rd week This is when older people become critical The coronavirus is also a lower respiratory tract infection exactly like you said I dont know if youre joking or not or a prankster but Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that if you are telling the truth you need to do whatever you can do to get your local health team to wake up to this phone a coronavirus phone number and try to get them to pay attention to you You NEED the proper test you have the links to China and if youre ill with this your aunt is at risk and so are all the people at your work you could be an early link in a local spreading infection now in your own community If you do your part to alert the higher authorities they can attempt to quarantine those people if needed Literally lives are on the line here|0 Menys prices usually feel like price gouging on a normal day but in this case they are justified|1 US bashing never happensdude where were you last week when all this sub could talk about for two days was american healthcare system means noone goes to the doctor therefore everyone will die|0 Yes there was officialy said couple days ago that they in Iran make around 6000 tests per day and expect to increase capabilities to 10000 in a 12 week|1 Oh the nuance of Trumps rally speeches is so misunderstood Jfc|0 Yup And the longer time sure does cost a lot right now lol|1 Telling isnt it that the government takes well over a month to do tests but gives a huge welfare hand out to Wall Street in a matter of daysShows you where their priorities are|1 Im worried that the virus will cause a portal to materialize inside of a random office building that is large enough for a human body to pass through possibly granting anyone who chooses to do enter it the ability to gain control over my every thought and action while I am forced to watch helplessly from within a mental prison|0 Well ignore this even when we cant depending on how its soldImagine if the Qanon types decide to start promoting a conspiracy theory that all images of coronavirus containment and deaths are deepfaked hoaxes and people on TV who are being quarantined are crisis actorsI mean that problem would probably sort itself out after a certain amount of time but in the early days the sheer damage wrought by arrogant willful ignorance would be unreal|0 Yeah Im a worst case scenario type person I admit I need to get out more Unfortunately coronavirus has made that increasingly difficult|0 So youre cool with him infecting people and their parents dying|1 Dont half the people with guns want a quarantine All my YouTube channel prepper people are screaming for quarantine and telling everyone to get ready and they seem to have a lot of guns extreme couponing seems to overlap with this community|1 True theres not enough information from either source to confirm if was was travelling a lot before London but its a possibility Either way I think this virus is the real deal and yeah things are going to get crazy|1 Dont think it will be a full year probably 6 months Countries cant afford more then that Hell we cant even afford that|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Then work something out with themThis type of mentality screw you looking out for me is no different from people during this pandemic not caring about the virus or its spread since its low risk of death for me doesnt affect me You just stated youre able to pay rent for several months dont try to use the excuse that youre looking after your familys financial healthThis is designed as protection for people actually affected and at risk the less fortunate not you in mind Selfishness is why were going to go into lockdown|0 I would imagine the schools will treat this like a blizzard every day of unscheduled closure is an extra day tacked on to the end of the year Kids might think its cool to be getting 2 or 3 weeks off now but they will be grumbling when its late july and they are still in session As long as the total insession days is the same for the school year theres no reason not to pay everyone as if nothing has changed all the same work will be done eventually|1 My 70 year old friend isnt worried because he has been taking emergenc|1 Oh shit |0 Fucking do it now please This bit by bit lock down and making it up to each individual county and business is infuriating My social media feed is 5050 split between people locking down and asshats gloating about how cool it is to be in bars and restaurants that are usually crowded in Los Angeles|1 Maybe its the affected person and their family being the potential cases|0 I mean can you really be overzealous The sooner its over and we know the actual numbers the better I dont really see many cons in being overcareful in this case i see many risks in not being careful enough though|1 Land of the free|1 First off Never take medical advice from reddit This post includedRunny nose is an outlier Corona virus does not show that symptomhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirussymptomsI cant seem to find the table that compares COVID 19 flu and common cold on a non danish siteHere is one you might feel is trustworthyhttpswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronavirussymptomscomparedtoflucommoncoldandallergies20203rUSIRTWith added qoute If your nose is running you probably dont have COVID19COVID19 can be most easily distinguished from colds allergies and the flu based on a trifecta of symptoms fever dry cough and shortness of breath That last symptom is not associated with colds or the flu though it is common for allergies If youre sneezing and have a runny nose its unlikely that you have COVID19 The flu is also more likely than COVID19 to come with aches and painsYou might have both tho If worried call your local hotline|0 Okay fine youre a realist but many of these people on here have people they love that are at risk and so many people have died Do you not have any compassion |0 Kachow my mind just blew Through mere idle chatter we have stumbled upon the entity which is seemingly responsible for the global coverup and Its not as bad as the flu disinformation campaign The N fucking F L I expect SWAT in my window at any moment as should you|1 I think 4 weeks is probably a pretty close estimate for the time people became symptomatic until they either died or beat the virus So we wait and it is painful to watch thousands and thousands of people sufferIn a couple months time we will have a more accurate mortality rate even though that doesnt help the fears of now And even then it still wont be accurate because people in China are not getting the care they need due to the medical system being horrendously overwhelmed|0 Not necessarily If spreading is slowed down combined with immunity from infected people who recovered the outbreak will just hit a bunch of dead ends and die out before most people are exposed|0 Well I would put Michael Jacksons doctor up there in the incompetent category Since he actually killed his patient I guess he gets in line first for entering circles of hell then the antivax doctors and then maybe the casually stupid courtier SG|0 What other source would you like I have a lot lol|1 Fake its just the flu reported for spreading false info|0 Hello I hope everything will be okay with youyour family and everyone else living thereAre you afraid of you or your family getting infectedGetting something to eat is a struggle nowIs everything okay with your mental health How do you handle this situation|1 I would like to know if I too can cure coronavirus with interpretive dance|1 Democracies are plagued with inefficiency pun semiintendedCentrally controlled economiesgovernments like Chinas are better equipped to control outbreaks like thisALL western economiescountries are going to suffer similar or worse fates as Italy|1 The agenda of the CCP is to slaughter the culture of the East Turkmenistan people and replace them all with a Han Ethnostate Not necessarily good give me a break theyre on Hitler level with genocide|0 Unfortunately if they have mild symptoms it will have the opposite effect But god damnit Tom Hanks is a saint and we cant lose him either He gave us fucking castaway|0 I was waiting for some conspiracy theory nonsense You are not a Russian troll trying to divide us yet|0 Im pretty sure hes visiting near the hotspot area in Thailand so thats why Im concerned|1 The world knew what it was in January Politicians chose to ignore it Even now with most of Europe going full lockdown were still washing our hands Scientists here in Canada actually found the outbreak in Iran before Iran admitted it No this has been and continues to be the most incompetently handled worldwide crisis Ive ever seen And Im pretty old We exist in the most information saturated global community there has ever been The information regarding the virus itself and how to handle and not handle it has been plain and available It is a disgrace and will cost thousands of lives httpsstaythefuckhomecomThere was time to slow this down|0 There are disease where a reinfections are way worse So just saying the second time would be shorter is naive|0 I understand the urge to ski it consumes the mind and soul But the risk here went alot further than your femur bud You escaped with your life Ive seen people suffer worse fates Can people try to somewhat take this seriously and not be so damn laugh it off and dismiss it haha its 2020|0 More than likely fine while it can live on surfaces for a while youre most at risk in confined spaces with people like public transport|1 Its called Normalcy Bias the tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects Wikipedia|0 Time to sell some of their stolen art|0 I hope I also replenished my shotgun shell stores|1 This is reasonable It was starting to seem odd that healthy doctors were dying but stress and burnout really ruin your immune system|0 Public health labs 2000 tests per day after 3 months A sad joke Not fit for service|0 Perhaps they WANT people to die and for the market to collapse That way they can create their own order out of chaosA lot more scary than Occams razor|0 Have read it but SARS left damage in many organs including the hypothalamus I think more data is needed but Id still consider SARS to be way more destructive until proven otherwise|0 Same Im in the same state I didnt think much of it to start with but I was grossly uneducated We are in for a hell of a ride |0 Because the media gave nonstop coverage to SARS swine flu bird flu and ebola and then it did not pan out to become the pandemics they were trying to make it out to beIts hard to blame the average Joe not taking coronavirus seriously when they keep crying wolfEdit these arguments below me fail to see my point At no point was an ebola outbreak in the United States imminent By acting like it was imminent for two years the media lost a ton of credibility on that matter So no one should be surprised that now that we have an imminent mass infection of coronavirus in the United States people are not taking it seriously|0 Stay healthy bro|1 this will cure Wuhan Flu and protect against it httpsgoopcom gwyneth paltrow is never wrong |1 I second this The CDC would never try to shut down or fine a good person doing good things in an emergency as long as they arent price gouging or being stupid|1 I feel like this is not a good ideaMaybe someone whos not sick like tested negative etc should just deliver the groceries to the seniors Isnt that a better idea rather than having all the vulnerable ppl in one spot|0 At this point weve diverged substantially from the exponential and even the most reasonable quadratic fit Eyeballing I would tend to disagree What are the R2 values|1 Natural selection will do that just fine|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 where are you getting these numbers from They are not supported by the statistics Esp not since we need to factor in the extremely high number of non detected cases due to no or only mild symptoms We already know for sure that a lot of esp younger people will go undetected due to lack of break out|0 Stay strong buddy itll be ok Greetings from a fellow quarantinee|1 Guessing he attacked for bc he was annoyed and just said she was diseased bc as a racist insult and bc of the mask not bc he actually was scared of her having the virus|0 The more news i read the more i lose trust in everyone|1 It is well known that people with severe disease have lower vitamin c levels why do you have such a strong opinion on something you clearly know nothing about Considering that most patients had normal dietary intake before intensive care unit ICU admission there is a clear association between development of critical illness and decreasing vitamin C levels Patients in multiorgan failure exhibit even lower levels sometimes reported as low as38 mmolL despite enteral nutrition 6 Many theories exist to explain the association between severity score and vitamin C deficiency but none have been sufficiently studied to discern true causal effect from a simple epiphenomenon Recent pharmacokinetic trials concluded that intravenous administration of 2 to 3 gd is required only to normalize plasma levels whereas many of the trials administered inferior doses 5 and even superior doses are required to obtain the supraphysiological levels described by the concept of pharmaconutrition De Grooth et al 22 randomly allocated 20 patients in four groups receiving either 2 g or 10 g of intravenous vitamin C either twice daily as infusion or as continuous perfusion Similar to previous findings 2 g was sufficient to normalize serum levels whereas 10 g was required to maintain serum levels constantly 40 mgL with a maximum at 295 mgL Interestingly after 48 h of discontinuation 15 of patients developed hypovitaminosishttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed30612038|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Epidemiologists are specifically trained to look at data in aggregate and not concern themselves with each individual case unless an individual case can reveal something about the nature of the disease that is statistically significant to the collectiveYou keep coming back to a story about a 45 year old lawyer getting pneumonia Thats just not how these decisions get made We dont arrange the entirety of public policy around stopping every 45 year from getting pneumonia from basically any common contagious respiratory infection I should add|0 What about the infected Whats the number What are the streets like|0 Fuck Jeff BOZO|0 Depends on how bad it is|0 Yeah we are NOT going on the cruise Like I said my hopes are that Royal Caribbean shuts down all together for the time being and then I get my money refunded The cruise does not leave until April 23 so theres no need for me to cancel this second The only thing Im doing by waiting to cancel is buying myself time to potentially get my money back|1 Take this with a grain of salt because different people are saying different things but Ive heard that it can last 1422 days The symptoms seem to be a mixture of coldflu mixed with phemonia with the shortness of breath and fluid in the lungs I have no idea about if it is likely to hospitalized relatively health adults but a person in another post said they were a relatively healthy 30 year old male caught it and now in self quarentine It doesnt help that theres so much misinformation going around with conflicting reports from the people that we normally believe|0 What is the data on the young though Everything I read indicates that under forties almost have no risk unless they have severe diabetes cancer supressed immun systems etc|0 Aside from temperature this podcast httpsforeignpolicycompodcastsdonttouchyourfacecoronaviruspodcastdonttouchyourfacecrunchingthenumberscoronavirusindiacases recently discussed the potential for UV rays hindering related viruses They said we dont yet know enough about this one but that being out in the sun more when its warmer can be a factor that slows viruses down in addition to other seasonal impacts mentioned above|1 Youll be fine if you wear the duster|1 No mate youre a blatant fucking hypocrite|0 Great Dont want them coming into this mess They are safer in Canada|1 Give it a few weeks and that nonchalant demeanor will turn to panic as their friends start dying|0 Taiwan is doing well but small country island Good job for themAnd South Korea Need some studies done|1 Holy shit 21 infected Nvm about my previous comment on the dying risk then|0 There are currently no confirmed cases of Covid19 in Nova Scotia There are currently no confirmed rolls of toilet paper on any shelf in Nova Scotia|0 great write up but i have been up all night and am tired so i dont know why the word Apple stuck out to me as some sort of correction on an iphone to capitalize the word and change the plural form of it probably need sleep cant sleep clowns will eat me|0 A lot of prisoners are going to die This keeps happening in multiple countriesWhat became of the UK prison with the infected|0 I see hundreds of comments literally bursting with panic Dont be obtuse Also I mean if it were to spread overseas panic would quickly grip the world Panic is the over response we cant afford|0 I think Legault has done the best job Quebec had very few cases when he started taking aggressive action Hes ensured health care workers can actually work by having some daycares remain open to mind their children The province is banning all visits to seniors residences longterm care facilities and hospitals to limit the spread of COVID19 the disease caused by the virus where as Ontario has only restricted visits to people visiting residents who are very ill which kinda sounds like very ill covid patients could receive visitors They will also have more covid testing centers per capita than Ontario and have tested more people per capita despite not having their first confirmed coronavirus case until ONE MONTH after Ontatio|1 I use the VA and I would argue we have some of the best health care in the country using my states Maine VA system While there are fair amounts of delays if it is something that greatly impacts life limb or eyesight they will get you in quick and do a damned good job|1 Of all the possible explanations this is not one id believe very easily|1 We have been under testing for at least 6 weeks This is not surprising|0 Yep Americans make up half of redditors but just now got scared So now theyll start flooding it with Should I cancel my trip to xxxxxx And Where can I buy masks and How likely am I to die from it and Im a vaper whats the safest flavor to use|0 This is because the petition is awaiting approval Official TextMy petitionUrgent appeal for greater transparency of UK government amidst COVID19 outbreakThere is currently no publicly accessible research to support key decisions aside from references to studies conducted outside of the UK and listing of scientific committees Implementation of key strategies requires scientific evidence which must be communicated to the general public Publish a more thorough assessment of the circumstances and share scientific findings of committees which contribute to the current plan of actionThe UK governments dynamic risk assessments are inconsistent with government action across other European nations and its planning principles do not align with current measures to discontinue testing of all potential cases The strategy is poorly justified and there is no transparency as to the reasoning behind the herd immunity approach Public trust is low due to lack of transparency and this will reduce effectiveness of government strategies|1 He risked more than 3 lives because the health workers could have met other patients or staff in the hospital before they realised they had coronavirus This could have caused more spread|0 Bless those grandparents who prepared us for this Mine would tell stories of the depression and WW2 rationing I kid you not my grandma had an old unplugged fridge in the basement filled with toilet paper Shed be ready for thisIm hoping Im making grandma proud through my survival instincts and grit Knowing what they got through gives me strength|1 Oh yeah we are No doubt in my mind that this will be one of the big defining points in American history like 911 or the great wars wereNow the question becomes what can we do as citizens to help mitigate deaths|1 On a personal note Im in NYC I dont think I have the virus but if my Dr reached out to you directly could we get a test done privatelyMy goal is get my elderly inlaws to our house but we dont know if us with small kids and themWith diabetes and pacemakers should be in the same space Thanks|1 Ok ok fine so maybe you can get you ass in Italy alone with your equipments with no communists strings attached|0 The other 50 was cat food and litter I have enough to last them about 15 months Thats it for now If later it starts looking very likely well have shortages and what not then I will really spend a lot Right now I have enough for a month just in casePlus you will have a wellfed cat|1 I used to work there They really try to do the right thing As a giant corporation they are by far the best of the worst in the USI dont agree on overpriced at allGood on them|0 I know this is the wrong time to say this but intelligent women are very attractive|1 The hungry people stories combined with the chicken and orange stories make me so sad We are all so interconnected|0 I hear you My wife is a teacher in the epicenter I convinced her to call out at the end of this week but she is feeling social pressure from colleagues to go in on monday if they still havent cancelled|1 MERS has an R0 greater than 1 but patients dont transmit the virus until after they start showing symptoms This makes it easy to isolate symptomatic patients Thats the biggest difference between COVID19 and the others|1 That woman is an asshole for not giving the flight info out though|0 sameand I work in health care Its annoying|1 The UK plan is to delay as long as possible so that when they do lock down there isnt a second wave of virus that they cannot isolate for The idea is that people will not voluntarily stay in isolation for longer than a few weeks which is not long enough at the UKs current infection level|0 I would say that is paranoid Dont worryJust make sure you practice hand hygiene Wash your hands frequently with soap and water Avoid touching commonly touched items eg handrails door handles And avoid touching for face|0 Cheers to being a worried mess eh|0 I work in state gvt and was talking to our disaster recovery point guy yesterday and he said Were reviewing our COOP but its a secret Nobody can know My reaction was a bit incredulous at executive managments insistence that COOP reviews should be secret Quality plan no doubt|0 Exactly hand them the test suspended on a long pole through the car window let them read through the instructions in their car perform the test then have a system where they drop it into an open bag also on a long pole and squeeze it shut with a mechanism like a litter picker The simplicity of the actual processing of getting the test makes me think theres another factor in why they cant perform many per day|1 justworld fallacy its also why the US is so unsolidary as a society the sheer hubris the patriotism and so on all reinforce this were the greatest and I did nothing wrong so everything will be fine|1 How many months are you prepared for I have enough to get me by for 2 months maybe more People dont need to eat as much as they believe they do so I figure if shit really starts hitting the fan which it is I will just ration it out I bought A LOT of cheap foods that go a long way Unfortunately couldnt afford much of the good stuff Did buy some comfort foods just in case But yeah lots of beans rice and pasta The extras are just for added comfort|1 Go and tell the families of the 631 dead that its only 0001 of the population|0 Really we shouldnt be surprised Literally everything is political nowadays from news to healthcare to going to the bathroom Why would a pandemic be any different Our politicians swore an oath as long as there is money and power to be had they wont rest until its theirs A pandemic is a great opportunity to consolidate power|1 They will be therethere in spirit people need to watch from their home keeping themselves safe and following WHO instructions and you arent helping|1 The Chinese narrative on rcoronavirus is picking up a lot of steam anything negative towards china is locked with highlighted posts from proflies only days old that only exist on rcoronavirus|0 A parent just wants to protect their child Period So althpugh logically your point is probably spot on emotionally it doesnt matterYes but thats the thing i got the issue with here We should be picking logical points over emotional ones|1 Yep Normal people dont take this kind of initiative as moderators of a subreddit Seems likely that they are somehow incentivized|1 According to the figures maintained by Johns Hopkins about 1000 cases outside mainland Chna had been reported by February 18 By today so far the total reported cases outside mainland Chna have reached 32800 The number of such cases then has doubled 5 times in 20 days or about once every 4 days httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 Govt intervention in free market economics is always a precursor to search and seizure Dont be naive|1 This is the fault of the government They need to mandate paid time off for isolation They cannot mandate isolation without mandating pay Its unfair and blatant that no one will follow it if it means being unable to feed their families|0 Were all fucked basically Stock up on cow dung and silverIn all seriousness im all in on this since over a month I have reviewed my own opinion about this on all angles so many times each day i lost count and each day that passes im just getting more news seconding my notion I will make my final investments over the next week and then completely bunker up and weather through the storm Dont forget that tradeables like booze and tobacco will be worth the same as gold soon and can compensate for any shortages you might experience by trading Thats all im gonna say Good luck to everyone out there|1 I wonder what makes a virus more prone to changingmutating and being immune heh to our immune systems old antibodiesLike so many other main diseases have been the same vaccine for years why dont they mutate as easily Less total infected so less chance to mutate|1 Imagine dedicating your life to medical care and then bailing because of a virus that has less than 1 chance of killing you We already know the biggest issue will be overloaded hospitals and quitting nurses just exasperate the problem No this isnt comparable to going to war Its sensationalizing nurses doing their job|0 I dont think any president could of stopped the spread of coronavirus But the manner it was addressed to the people could of been better The government could of sent NBC NCOs to retrieve the Americans from the cruise ship in Japan and not amateurs I come from a hazardous chemical background you dont go around chemicalsdiseases without have proper PPE and decontamination center when leaving the site My company had showers so you could shower after work before putting street clothes on to go home we didnt with biological diseasesEdit before I worked for them they did package cyanide|1 If a step back means better leadership to progress forward Im all for it The sad part is I actually dont think people care enough to pay attention nowadays at the world around them Theyre all self absorbed in social media I hope this is a wake up call to them too|1 This A little over a week ago our CEO was giving us a pep talk about how our biggest problem was the fear virus and how this probably wouldnt affect any of us in any substantial way Cut to Friday and they were laying off 13 of the staff and shutting down the offices for everyone to work from home I feel extremely lucky that I still have a job for the next 2 months anyway and can work from home|0 Be interesting to see how they will continue to test after 100 confirmed as was previous news that they were gonna stop I might understand after 10000 confirmed cases This is probably coming from the FF100 H7N9 protocols pdfhttpsassetspublishingservicegovukgovernmentuploadssystemuploadsattachmentdatafile360190201213FF100ProtocolH7N9ver12pdf which itself was based on earlier studies such as during the 2009 flu outbreak in the UK The idea is that when the number of confirmed cases is in the high tens or low hundreds then you test aggressively isolate contact trace test contacts study the virus intensively to develop treatments etc Potentially you have a chance of stopping an outbreak before it starts However once you are past the first few hundred confirmed cases then in all likelihood you are beyond controlling the spread through contact tracing and isolation and so you shift in to a different mode of operation where anyone with any symptoms that look like they might be the illness gets isolatedquarantined with an aim of slowing the spread so as to prevent health service overloadI dont think that they are suggesting that people with the severe form will not be tested but they will once we are past one hundred assume significant community spread stop bothering with contact tracing and move to a much more aggressive social distancing policy|0 They censored a letter which damaged their credibilityHowever their credibility is massive so it didnt really influence anyone reading it regularly|0 If the Pope can contract the virus I believe we can finally safely say that it has been proven that God doesnt exist|1 Testing people that could be in dire need of treatment is the bare minimum The rest of us does not really need a test we will be recommended to limit contact with the outside world as best as we can either way|1 Its easier to go into afib when youre battling any virus So yes But afib in itself wont kill you You just dont want to be in it for weeks at a time as your risk for a stroke will increase|1 Im even giving up visiting my American girlfriend until this blows over and she only lives a kilometre over the border We both have elderly parents to take care of if they fall ill and we definitely dont want to be the source of that illness To say nothing of potential border difficulties if I had to return from a pandemic zoneI actually love cruises but going on one right now is kind of demented|1 The USA does have a plan in place Military bases are already gearing up in many areas for quarenteen Hospitals have already reported the amount of PPE on hand CDC has already issued new guidelines to businesses for sick call Main stream media is not reporting it much but many things are happening according to the pandemic procedure manuals San Diego is the first to call a state of emergency This releases funds for health care response but also gives a lot of power over community movement and forced quarenteen I believe we will see several more cities added to this list soon|0 They knew it for weeks Theyre not even pretending to try and contain this|0 Nah Im not running the risk of a massive hospital bill when paying for it when theres no treatment also 80 odds of it being mild|0 Tested yes But that cannot stop it Guy in my area tested positive today still yesterday picked his grandkids up from a busy leisure centre Full of people loads of kids swimming rollerblading running aroundWe got a school email saying if youyour child were there at the time and displaying symptoms keep them home If your child is not displaying then send them in to school If they display in the near future keep them homeOne kid or parent could incubate for a week or two feeling fine go to school and spread it All whilst following current government advice|1 and the way to break the loop is to put in some effort in looking for USbased alternatives and to not be greedy The latter is tough but we can all be a bit more conscientious when buying products|1 I agree your calculation makes more sense This is also important The demographic and clinical characteristics are shown in Table 1 209 were healthcare workers In that SARS casecontrol study they attributed the higher proportion of nonsmoker infections to healthcare workers That cannot explain the difference here It really didnt make much sense anyway since doctors in China are said to smoke at an even higher rate than men in general but whatever daily smokers who quit 156 of 1085 169 in the study 21 19 I didnt see this its a nice find Assuming this is due to the altered ACE2 expression recent quitters may still have the protection from the virus while also gaining the health benefits of quitting Who knows but the timing probably plays a role|1 I cant speak to whether or not this specifically was a good idea but in general the study of these viruses is important in finding cures its important to know how the viruses work to combat themx200BThen theres also a lot of study with using viruses to introduce dna into cells in order to cure diseasesx200Bedittypos|1 Why does this subreddit even exist This sub is just another rPolitics clone for angry leftists to scream at the sky about how much they hate Trump for Insert random nonsense Seriously Why not just go there and screech about your orangemanbad|0 Actually scientists have to pay to both get their articles published and recieve nothing for peer reviewing them So yes scientists do essentially work for charity ie government or private institution grants Many scientific journals charge ridiculous amounts of fees for just a single scientific paper Most research entails accessing dozens of papers at least|1 take your vitamin d its the end of winter d and pneumonia|1 Exactly my reaction Where I grew up toilet paper was not always available even in absence of major disasters but we could always make do in a pinch by bunching up a copy of Pravda or something|0 I am not high risk but my mom is I havent left the house except to get my new glasses in days I ran in Grabbed my glasses Washed my hands went home washed my hands again and have been here since I dont want to be the reason someone high risk dies I havent seen my mom in over a week I want to see her again|1 They just changed the antibiotic in it Its no longer the triclosan and triclocarban but something that starts with a c We have a bottle at work despite my protests|1 Ive been following your threads for a few days now and I must say they are excellent They help me stay calm Thank you for your work|1 Drumpf is old too If he dropped 30 of the country would be ecstaticYou typed 66 wrong He and his supporters are the minority in this country|0 The linked website bloombergcom may not be reliable Remember to always take the claims of unrecognized or unofficial sources with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 The one from Boston is here httpsnextstrainorgncovlunrootedsUSAMA12020They have been trying to sequence every positive case Now that testing will be done more locally Im not sure if that will continueEdit the underlying sequence is here httpswwwncbinlmnihgovnuccoreMT039888|1 Exactly this Could someone please explain to me when we know it is safe to return to work if we are in self quarantinePassengers on the cruise ships recovered and still tested positive for over a week If we are NOT testing how will we know for sure This is driving me crazy I warned all my grown kids 2 of the 3 listened The youngest called from across the country yesterday just crying and saying they felt so dumb They had prepared a little and got their meds I was begging them to but now felt like they didnt do enough Sorry A ramble here Good luck to you fellow well informed angry as fuck friend|1 There still hasnt been a single person infected outside of China All international cases are imported Chinese case People came from China and were immediately quarantined No reason to worry yet|0 Then piss everyone off Safety of the country population is more important than some toothless shitstan that is the modern UN|0 you sound like a nutcase My wife who is a medical professional until this past weekend kept telling me i was obsessing and paranoid She changed her mind this weekend and agreed with me that its not just the flu|1 this has evolved into hysteria and is going to ruin far more peoples lives than will actually be affected by the virusthe hysteria can and actually will cause destructive damage But if the coronavirus actually has a fatality rate of 2 and 20 of the world is infected 28M people will die|0 One of the Singapore developed tests that was sent to China has a 2 hour turn around Im not sure about the NUSDuke test though that one is way more sophisticated and tests for antibodies instead of the virus meaning they will catch all those people who have it but have no symptoms|0 Possibilities No testing in general Very rural areas not reporting deaths Very rural areas without any way to test at all|0 I think thats a good thing as theres lots of people doing it so do t worry too much|0 Yes Jubilee2020 I did hear about the cases in Florida It scares me because my family lives in there Did you hear about the second nursing home in WA that had 2 cases of the viruses|1 Yep Im thankful to the kids for clearing out the BS but as far as news goes this sub has been faster than anyone else Ive seen so we are watching closely Thank you|1 Suspected to have had a nephrectomy for renal cell carcinoma|0 The darker side of me thinks they know theyve lost control of it but are letting it run its course to take out the elderly because our system was designed by a generation that expected life expectancy to be 75 Make social security solvent again Give the younger generations a chance Reduce the burden on the earth etc Anyway gloomy shower thoughts|0 The worst is when people are like youll be fine you wont die Im not worried about dying Im worried about the massive systemic shock to our everyday lives|1 GODDAMIT How many times do I need to tell people Dust masks dont protect you from airborne disease Only a properly fitting rubber respirator can do that|0 Absolute fucking legend Wish him all the best|1 Its unfortunately not just plastic or foam From what Ive read the types of masks which are actually effective take time to manufacture Its not just putting them together its treating them with chemicals and letting them dry etc Much of the existing infrastructure to produce them mainly exists in China and there are a lot of countries trying to get them right now To address your question more directly Im sure they are lying because they dont trust people not to buy them because they are needed elsewhere People are selfish For every 5 people who would follow directions there would be a sixth who is buying 10 times what they need|0 Wheel of Fortune Sally Ride heavy metal suicideForeign debts homeless vets AIDS crack Bernie GoetzHypodermics on the shores Chinas under martial lawRock and roller cola wars I cant take it anymore|0 God what a moron and shes running an educational facility Embarrassing We have always cared more about money than health in the US Im ashamed|0 Similar in The Netherlands Seems almost a cordinated action I like it|1 USA healthcare being more efficient because its private is getting exposed hard Hopefully people wake up|1 Being tested doesnt help at all only if you have to be in contact with others like public figures first responders and medical workers Which are the ones who are getting the tests in Germany Spain and Italy as far as I knowFor both the flu and COVID19 there is no cure That means that for both if you have sintoms you have to stay at home Only if you feel really bad then you need to go to the hospital In any case being tested doesnt help to get a better treatmentPeople who need to be treated for workschool You can always say that you got the flu the sintoms are similar and I am pretty sure your doctor will make you a notePeople who mentions that is important for statistics Every test costs 100 approx in Europe That means for testing Germany you have to spend 8000M approx I am sure you would agree that kind of money is better invested in other priorities|1 H1N1swine flu which I keep advocating for to compare|0 Its called normalcy bias|0 They recommended it thats not a government ban what we need is a national lockdown just like many of the European countries right now before were at the levels they are at|1 Was that talented Mr ripley |1 This is a preview of what hospitals will look like in April|1 Making it a rule not to trust people here with virus literally in their usernameNice try totally not RNA posting as human|0 Excellent Trump just wanted to monopolize it for personal gain|1 Its a cascading sort of failure Pneumonia reduces the ability of the lungs to oxygenate blood To compensate your heart rate increases to move more blood through the lungs Basically your heart ends up doing cardio 24 hours a day which leads to a failure|0 Sounds like anxiety ive been dealing with the same the last few days but I notice fluctuation in feeling when I think about it compared to when Im occupied|1 As someone who recently found out they had kidney damage stage 3 renal failure from long term anti inflammatory use you should go get a urine analysis done to check protein levels and see if you need to follow up with a nephrologist|0 I hate when they just straight out tell you bold lies Its crazy makingMore respect for an employer that says yea you can get it you might even die but everyone else is taking their chances so come to work or lose your job|0 If half of the people in the world got it many doctors and nurses also would so the death rate would shoot up Similarly if many people in Africa got it the death rate would be much much higher than 2 due to poverty hunger poor hygiene lack of facilities dehydration etc|0 Alas we do live together and he often stays on the couch after a night out so tomorrow hes going to find out thats his new temporary home Im not getting sick cause he cant be responsible|0 I got sick because my mom and sister were sick 2 months ago Theyre still coughing but nobodys dying It makes me wonder what were actually dealing with here|0 One guy with no firsthand knowledge of what hes claiming being cited in an article is all you need to state something as fact in 2020|0 Youre a legend Keep up the amazing work|1 Right but my decision to eat four large boxes of bagel bites wont kill my grandma|1 Fuck yeah Italy |0 Haha youre right Just scary as an O might be harder if you need an organ or something lol|1 Thanks for answering I hope you are able to socially distance and stay healthy|1 And Bill Burr got his wish Why dont we just let it run out for once why we gotta jump on it immediately everytime|1 I agree Also I see some Americans taking it seriously Buuut theres 1 American in particular that doesnt seem to want to face reality|1 its being used here already a doctor at UCLA medical mentioned it to me todayit takes a long time to go through clinical trials for FDA approval but that doesnt stop an ICU doctor from administering it to you|1 Is there a way we can compare these statsfacts to the flu|0 Future numbers I mean the projections they might swing either way The current numbers might as well be bullshit the whole thing might be bullshit We have no less than 3 institutions that are known to have been studying this Georgia Canada and Wuhan Why the fuck are they making biological weapons I get Wuhan wmds and all and china stealing tech from Canada for this specificially but why the fuck is the US testing this shit in Georgia They have a weird georgia flu outbreak that just killed a perfectly healthy police deputy from ARDS and has hundreds of people sick and schools closed WHY ARE WE CREATING NOVEL VIRUSES DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH ALREADYIts fucking weird Its like that episode of American Dad Why do we need heaven guns But seriously guys WHY I wonder how long till people start suing China Canada and the US for this China might say fuck you in international court but those two scientists who got arrested in Canada for policy violations that just happened to be also working on a bat coronavirus that Harvard guy in the US they just put into federal custody for giving tech to the chinese they are all open game The universities too and the states that fund them|0 You dont know that They dont sequence the genome of the virus with every new case It may have not shown visible signs of mutation in the first couple months but that doesnt mean that it does not mutate Mutations are random and are how viruses evolve Dont tell people to calm down when theyre being cautious and you obviously dont understand the biological aspect of it Translation of nucleotides is never perfect source microbio major|0 I work in a casino outside of LA and the owner talked to his lawyer who said you can legally tell your employees they cant wear masks Too off putting to players There is a lot of travel when it comes to the casino business|1 Im 17 and I have asthma too and a weak immune system|0 Lol Brexiteers are more open about CCP not being above board What nonsense Id imagine most in Britain apart from all the Tories from Cameron government who are now on Huaweis board are pretty sceptical about the CCP|1 Its more complicated than that Since many hospitals are overrun they are prioratizing young people I am just hoping that this kind of situation is over and italy could treat all its patients without any problem|1 Heard someone today say its American made released in China by the CIA to hurt their economy with the end goal of letting he markets drop and thEn recover under Trump as this is election year Then hell be able to claim he fixed the markets and stay another four years|0 There is a 1 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 3 days on 20200321 014114 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003212001411420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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culture but I know they are not ruled by a bunch of communist pricks|0 This is how I felt about it I mean for us to supposedly have to most advanced health care and have the most developed nation our response is fucking agitating Im sitting up here hearing that Korea has drivethru testing facilities and were still struggling to get tests out The fuck|0 I heard China was sending the supplies since Italy sent them supplies So the question is if true did the Italians force the Chinese to pay for what they sent If not its shit tier if so its payback Kind of a sad existence we live in now that I think about it|1 They should cut back on the avocado toast and takeout coffee drinks|0 Nah its designed that way for profitThe US does have some of the best healthcare but its like EA and its locked behind a paywall|1 Im in Colorado Start prepping with stuff you normally use or eat Buy things that you typically use that may be made in China or other areas getting affected electronics We are about to see our supply get cut off|0 Has been affecting people with weak immune system you mean|0 YesIf youre rich or a celebrity or a pro athlete|1 Im you two weeks ago No one will listen Also Im going to follow you for updates|0 Why are all the sources some random BNO Newsroom Who runs this news outlet Why should they be trusted|1 I keep hearing stories of people being sick and getting refused testing because there arent enough tests available They are basically only testing people on their deathbed Anyone who traveled to China in December January and February should be tested mandatorily|0 Already being actively discussed on my street We have a range of older people to young families People have agreed to cook up extra food for families that are stuck down share childcare etc|1 Well the WHO would actually benefit from the bondsAnd they dont depend on somebody calling it a pandemic or notHere you can find how the bonds work and the formulas that describe their payout structurehttppubdocsworldbankorgen842101571243529089PEFOperationsManualapproved101518pdf|1 Lots of customer POV Here if you book non refundable why do you think you have the right to a refund I had 2 cancellations next month both got charged They also held the booking for 60 days where nobody else could rent the space Now its empty Why should the property owners suffer over booking policies the customers agree to|0 Yup wouldnt be surprise if we are above 1k after this upcoming weekend|0 Im so sorry|0 Could be cytokine Wikipedia says seizure is a symptom Thanks|1 Haha My brother is a bit of a grammar snob so Im used to the correction I pray they do I think the next two weeks will be quite telling esp considering Quest will start testing for this on Monday|1 Its like 10 for a pilsner and 15 for strongerfancier beers Norwegians dont like drinking in Norway|1 Honestly they pretty much have it already The treatment would be super quick|1 Idk east Asia is known for blood type based esoteric stuff and resulting discrimination|0 We in Pakistan clean shit with hands then wash hands with soap|0 I loathe that term I have a feeling those nothingbirgers are going to taste like crow|0 Companies send all kinds of crap air including 15 shirts 10 memory cards and 5 knick knacks Its all about volume|0 All dirty websites taking notes right now|0 I think they mean its easier to see that theyre still this bad with access to top of the line medical care since its hard to tell what kind of treatment people are getting in China right now Did it get worse bc they didnt have access to good treatment or would it have gotten that bad even with it|0 Cmon dawg have you ever been in an ethnic neighborhood beforeGo to Korea town in Tokyoits mostly koreansx200BThere are videos of china town in New York CItyand its like 98 chinese people walking aroundthis shit is basic dude|0 So whats the limit then When are we forced in quarantine and not trusted Is it also when we get the flu or chicken pox Are we quarantined then because we might cause deadly infections on the loose You do understand the hard part is not to make the quarantine the hard part is to make the rules for it All it takes is few idiots argument works with basically anything but it really can be also used to justify what ever bullshit comes to mind Just try it Do you know wether this guy was assessed to be safe to stay at home Do you know anything about him|0 Do you have any tips for people with diabetes and or high blood pressure Insulin is already ridiculously expensive of course you need a script for that and all BP meds|0 Texas is scaling up its abilities My hospital is anticipating by weeks end to have a significantly greater access though still it South Korea levels I just wish they would have been much more transparent|1 Chinas record attests to this Claiming the great rejuvenation of the Chinese people as its ultimate mission the Chinese government has conducted massive social engineering campaigns to control and improve its population The onechild policy was carried out with forced abortions compulsory sterilization and female infanticide leading to an aging population and severe gender imbalance Faced with the resulting demographic crisis the Chinese government has now turned to campaigns encouraging the right quality of women namely younger urban women with a college education to have more children while imposing constraints on reproduction for ethnic minorities and in particular the Uighurs The Maternal and Infant Health Care Law of 1995 initially named the Eugenics and Health Protection Law with the explicit purpose to prevent new births of inferior quality effectively mandated childlessness for people with genetic disorders certain infectious diseases and mental illnessCommunism bases much of its legitimacy on its claims of resting on a foundation of science but its understanding of science centers far more on authority than skepticism Scientific in Chinas party editorials is virtually synonymous with politically approved The partys journals are filled with glowing evaluations of Mao Zedongs scientific legacy The constitutions latest addition Xi Jinping Thought lists early in its 14point manifesto adopting sciencebased ideas for development The suggestion is that if a government is scientific then the states grasp on power must be as absolute and above criticism as the laws of the universe even when that power is used to persecute scientists and crush entire branches of research considered contrary to political ideology as the Chinese government has repeatedly doneWhen science is used in service of legitimizing an authoritarian system the resulting research however successful it might appear to be inevitably abandons cosmopolitan ideals The first two monkey clones born in a Chinese lab in January were named Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua zhonghua means the Chinese nation and its people The macaque twins were not just portrayed as the product of science but of Chinese scienceThis politicized approach to science also abets the trampling of ethical boundaries Communism emphasizes the idea of constant struggle not only between classes but also against nature China like the Soviet Union before it has already paid a harsh environmental cost for this approach to development policy During the Great Leap Forward sparrows were initially listed among the four pests to be extinguished and the drastic reduction in sparrow population led to an increase in crop pests that worsened ongoing famineMost concerning of all is how the Chinese states understanding of science discounts the autonomy of an individual body for the collective notion of a strong national body The legacy of social Darwinism still permeates China evident in the governments swift and brutal campaign this past winter to rid the city of Beijing of its migrant workers and their families callously referred to in official documents as the lowend populationBut the justification of individual sacrifice for the greater good is contrary to any principlebased bioethics framework When Jesse Gelsinger died at the University of Pennsylvania as the first casualty of gene therapy in 1999 the tragedy halted this type of experimental treatment on humans for several years in the United States and it still serves as a somber reminder for the medical community Had the death occurred in China it would most likely have been either covered up or turned into propaganda depicting Gelsinger as a national martyrWith the Chinese governments intensifying explicit push for civilmilitary fusion one should also take it at its word and assume any of its new technology will be dualuse with military uses applying both to national defense and internal suppression The Chinese government is already collecting DNA samples among other biometrics data in its farwest province of Xinjiang where ethnic minorities like the Uighurs are already subject to systematic discrimination and building up a massive surveillance state using artificial intelligenceThe introduction of AI into health care in China spearheaded by Chinese tech giants including Tencent and Alibaba can help with an overburdened hospital system but it also raises serious privacy concerns in a state where data privacy is nonexistent Biotechnology will become a powerful tool in the Chinese security stateIn ninthcentury China Taoist alchemists searching for the elixir of life found a dark mixture that was highly combustible They named it huoyao fire medicine In the pursuit of immortality the Chinese invented gunpowderIn the face of Chinas advances in biotechnology today the world must be vigilant At the same time paranoia can and should be avoided the correct approach is principled engagement not isolation A secure future demands that all stakeholders come together in good faith to reach a collective agreement in the development and utilization of biotechnologyThe International Summit on Human Gene Editing in 2015 cohosted by the National Academy of Sciences and the National Academy of Medicine in the United States the Royal Society in the United Kingdom and the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the National Academies of Science and Medicines 2017 report by 22 science and ethics experts from multiple countries laying out guidelines for human genome editing are both encouraging examples in the direction toward global governance and shared responsibilityBiological threats recognize no human borders Disparity in bioethics anywhere weakens bioethics everywhere Liberal democracies must take advantage of the openness of their system to educate the public live up to the highest ethical standards in protecting human rights and safeguarding the environment and make such standards the bedrock of universal principles China is most likely to abide by such standards when its membership in the global political and scientific community depends on it in other words when it has no other choice|1 I think that its all foreign nationals not American citizens who traveled to China within the last 14 days will be denied entry US citizens who visited China will just be quarantined either mandatory or voluntary depending on where in China they were|0 5 International flights incoming from hotspots this afternoon to Toronto alone Madrid Manila Seoul and two from China Like they think these people are all safe wtf|0 My husband recently came down with the flu Standard flu symptoms no difficulty breathing we have no concerns about COVID19 His cough was bad enough to keep him from lying down or sleeping and he was miserable He called Teledoc to try to get some prescription cough medicine so he could at least get some sleep He had traveled to the UK in early January Teledoc doctor insisted that because he had traveled overseas in the last 2 months not 14 days like CDC guidelines he wouldnt do anything for him and he had to get tested for COVID19Our local hospital system sent everyone messages this week telling us they arent testing for COVID19 and there were no plans to make test kits available to local practices That only the CDC could say who gets testedHis only other option would have been to go find someone more reasonable at urgent care further exposing me he was coughing bad enough to not be able to drive and everyone in the vicinity he was VERY symptomatic He chose to tough it out He hasnt slept in 3 nights All he wanted was some damn cough medicine with codeine since the OTC stuff and home remedies werent helping enough The misinformation conflicting medical advice and lack of a coherent response to this compounded by an active flu season is just mindboggling|0 We started giving it up long before that lolBut yeah now our abdication of global leadership is truly cemented|1 Thank you for your response I and probably many others on ACE inhibitors would certainly appreciate any feedback on this|1 Nah they wont die theyll just be even more broke if they end up in serious condition Hospitals WILL treat them regardless of the ability to pay|1 Jeez teachers put up with a whole heap of crap but dealing with this as well is terrible As a parent having a supply teacher cover my kids classes is not ideal But youve got to look after you and if that means time off sick then you should do it It seems that no one else is looking out for you Please stay safe|0 As far as I know we are the only major power delaying taking the more extreme measures The top minds of Germany France Italy Switzerland Norway Denmark etc even USA are doing more preemptive proactive measures to combat the peakThis approach has also been criticised by prominent members of the UK medical community such as former public health chiefhttpswwwindependentcouknewsukhomenewscoronavirusukcasesjohnashtonnhshospitalcovid19budgeta9396211html and the editor of the lancethttpstwittercomrichardhorton1status1238149844906192903 as well as front line critical care doctors working in HCID unitshttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgfspiimacriticalcaredoctorworkinginaukhcidfk4evfqHistory doesnt favour this solution either see Philadelphia vs St Louis during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemichttpspbstwimgcommediaES25yr6U8AAtgU6jpg|1 If the christian god is real whats the excuse for dipping out on his creations or allowing suffering on a grander scale to take placeA He doesnt care nor want to helpB He cant helpC He could help but choses not tooD He cant help because no mystical being lives in the sky helping humansWhich sounds more likely|1 You can get reinfected with a different strainWether the same strain hides and reactivates is still an open question|0 I really feel like he takes it much more serious than others Ive seen and thats so great to hear|1 I work in graphics manufacturing and were still running full speed Its a mix between fucking hell let us go and thank god we can bring in a few paychecks before the inevitable standstill|0 No Chips only fish|0 Last week we had record sales numbers and our sales are probably 30 below that the last 2 days but their only down 12 from last year Im a supervisor so I have access to our sales Each day is compared to the sales of that date last year It seems to be tapering down very slowly but I guess well see how things go Monday when we switch to pick up only|1 SCMP updated the article saying hes not dead |1 By design Great way to get us pesky poor people out of the way|0 Im not so sure that the US would do anything like this because it wouldnt work sadly Americans are less receptive to extreme measures made by the government to control lives even during emergencies Hell theres TONS of people going out to bars yesterday and today|0 Yeah I noticed the same Well never know how many people truly died in China but I think as we get more western data were going to see a much higher mortality rate come along|1 I was wondering if I could be approved to post|1 Agreed Its not fun wanting to help out but not being able to|1 You must work in corporate Darden and not have familiarity with restaurants There are very strict guideline around cleanliness and employee hand washing and there are frequent audits that close restaurants that dont follow procedures I know because I work in the industry It is much safer to eat any corporate branded restaurant than it is a small mom pop that had to cut corners to make ends meet|1 In my experience parents areshould be trained quite a bit in regards to vents trachs etc before a child like that goes home|1 The problem is a lot of the issues theyre complaining about is just losses of money they could have made not actually losses of real tangible money In the end this is about pleasing their shareholders and the bailout is to ensure those shareholders see gains for their investments You could say that shareholders might sell their shares infuriated with the losses but you also have to keep in mind that only soo many shares can be sold before the market is soo saturated no one is there to buy them up meaning any potential sell offs as retribution would hit a brick wall pretty quicklyAnd people wont sell Theyll just hold on to them until value picks back up like they were always going to anywaysSince airlines have no shortage of business in good times there really is no looming issue Its all artificial and perspective based But theyre not actually losing much in the grand scheme of things Airlines are a luxury not a necessity not a utility not a public serviceIf they go out of business someone will take their place as it is something always in demand But we all know they wont actually go out of business and when they dont then youll be able to point and say definitively You were full of crapAnd its not like airlines will stop existing Airplanes will still exist Airports will still exist They go out of business worst case scenario is someone else buys them up and starts everything running again|1 Why has not any news agency yet asked where and how was this created |1 Hey Coconutty I thought you might be interested in this httpswwwpressheraldcom20200307egyptsayscruiseshipquarantinedovernewvirusclusterLUXOR Egypt A cruise ship on Egypts Nile River with over 150 tourists and local crew was in quarantine Saturday in the southern city of Luxor and 45 people on board tested positive for the new coronavirus authorities said|1 Which means he doesnt even have health insurance from the school Unbelievable|1 Rather than pepper spray consider getting bear spray It has a longer range and a higher potency plus generally comes with a chest holster I love wearing mine aroundEdit Ive learned today that bear spray is not stronger as I had presumed|1 Take a look at my edit on that comment I certainly deserve a fuck you if this all happened last week and it was AMA but that wasnt the case|0 Maybe on a 1 to 1 ratio yes However you cannot compare a full blown pandemic with a single case of a deadlier disease These guys will most probably see tens if not hundreds of cases in the rear of their ambulance|1 You are right If we look back at major historical events there is always that small window of opportunity to leave Unfortunately we usually only get to hear the stories of those people who left just in time and they just like his daughter would have to weigh the risks of leaving but the survivors are always glad they risked what they did for their long term safety and wellbeing|1 New cases that start showing symptoms are extremely unlikely to have been caught two weeks ago According to a study that was posted here the a few days ago the median incubation period was 51 daysMaybe I misinterpreted how you said that last part just wanted to clarify in case someone else interpreted it this way|0 Just saw your nickname You either said the truth or you lied since the time you made your account|0 People deserve what they get if they dont listen For those who prepared and used their brains we will be alright This virus will serve as a population control method for us Nothing we can really do about this virus without a vaccine so let the stupid ones parish|0 Yeah about 3 as a resident in Beijing how are yours holding upIve got a few issues on NYE and today for some reason|1 kind of true but even people washing their hands more or staying at home or cancelling events is a mitigation effort it doesnt have to be space limiting necessarily although that might me more effective the social implications that would have on the usa in particular would be a big yikes people are idiots here and a lot would refuse it due to mah individual rights|1 My first time on the subway going to my first job and a Russian guy is yelling at a Jamaican guy and both are threatening each other to spit at each other Im looking around like everyone see this Everyone ignored it and kept looking forward I was like wtf it is true that they just ignore crazy shitWild times lol|0 WTF Weve reached the point where they are just gonna lie straight up despite evident facts on the ground|0 Because some people will accept almost any level of incompetence stupidity and corruption so long as it continues to mean that as little as possible of their taxes are spent to benefit brownblack people in any way shape or form and more importantly that their hatred toward anyone different from them whether it by race religion or ethnicity is enthusiastically and publicly shared by those leaders which they support|1 He didnt calculate those numbers Theyre a result of simulations run by a team of researchers at Imperial College London who have been the guiding the policy of the UK government and others If youre interested in how they got those figures and why UK policy has looked the way it has up until now including todays drastic move towards suppression of the disease you should read thishttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdf paper that they just made public|1 And there are likely many more deaths that werent reported either We can speculate all day but the confirmed numbers equal 3 4 death rate thats all we have to go by|0 I see thank for elaborating|1 Yup Most people are never going to be able to afford to pay those kinds of hospital bills so the government will either have to just let them die or eat the cost A couple of weeks in the ICU aint cheap|0 totally false Obama NEVER enacted this It was under review but never put into place Trumps own decisions hampered expediency on testing and then they had to reverse THEIR OWN DECISION GTFO WITH YOUR BULLSHIT|0 God bless you Karen|1 Just curious what gives the impression that I dont know what Im talking about Im not claiming to be anything close to an expert on the subject but I did pull that reference from a lecture I attended recently on management of keratoconic patientsI can say with a reasonable amount of confidence that habitual forceful rubbing of eyes definitely is a risk factor for KC very current systematic review showing thishttpsjournalslwwcomcorneajrnlAbstract202002000ThePrevalenceandRiskFactorsforKeratoconusA24aspx and at the very least isnt good for the cornea The original comment to which I replied was from someone who rubs their eyes significantly more than most people doesnt wear glasses so may not have had a recent eye exam and seems to be around the right age for the onset of KC to be honest its actually highly likely they dont have it if they are not experiencing certain visual symptoms but the recommendation to have an eye exam at somewhere specialising in contact lenses still applies|1 This is what seems to be missing the most at least the urgency to institute this is missingFrom the reportThe third stage of the outbreak focused on reducing clusters of cases thoroughly controllingthe epidemic and striking a balance between epidemic prevention and control sustainableeconomic and social development the unified command standardized guidance andscientific evidencebased policy implementation|1 A friend of mine ex Tweaker told me about FishMoX I guess its an antibiotic for fish that the tweakers pickup from petfarm supply stores He has taken on many occasions for tooth issues etc He has added some bottles of it to his preparation kits For the simple fact what if hospitals are overwhelmed and you need to do something for your sick child or significant other Any thoughts on Fish mox fish moxhttpswwwwalmartpetrxcomp2377fishmoxamoxicillinaspx|1 And if people die from the flu and coincidentally are not ever tested for coronavirus no one will ever know truly how many cases were in the US No testing low case numbers political win|0 Fuck Geralt of Rivia|0 Its under control Its just like the flu The flu kills more people every year Dont buy masks They wont helpI will return these words back to themOh I have another idea Dont place all those people from Grand Princess in various military installations That will compromise our national security Keep them in the capitol building|0 But when it costs someone 2k to go to the hospital to get tested if they MIGHT have it they will think twice THEY NEED TO MAKE TESTING FREE|1 I will be on the look out for thwm My Dad was a trucker back in the day I would love to pay it forward for themthanks for the heads up|1 that guy was dodging the airport temperature check with his conscious intention If someone was fine going home from the airport and then show symptoms afterwards that would be different case and not punishable|1 He might have received the test but is denying it because most regular Americans arent allowed to get tested|0 Seeing the responses regarding the insurance payout for forced closures versus goverment recommendation is insane|0 Sorry bro a dust mask doesnt protect you from any of the things you listed A particulate mask is what you should be using I know they are more expensive but an N100 is worth the money and use an N95 if you want to cheap out A dust mask does NOTHING|1 Its not majority but still pretty bad at roughly 14th|0 Adding to this if you leave your stuff in a storage unit in another state it can easily cost you 500 to get it back home on top of rental feesIn 2013 I had a falling out with my father and with the way the religious university I was attending was run I ended up leaving school and moving in with my mom two states away I packed my tiny sedan with everything I could and put the rest in a storage unit that was about 3x5The good news I was only paying about 12mo so I left it there for 2 yearsThe bad news it took me about 2 years to have the spare cash to go get my shitI ended up flying up put a notice in a local group about free shit and mailed my photo albums home Everything else got given away But it still cost me about 400 between flight hotel car and food|1 phone the police fuck the school|0 People with the attitude I havent tested positive yet so I can act like a jackass and touch everything in sight are a reason why the disease spreads out of control|0 What does that even mean How do you know its useful What useful info have you learned that some expert couldnt have provided to you This is such a weird statement|1 I just checked your post history pocketman bad|0 If thats the case I imagine they have one facility for the whole city in which case yeah sure theyre burning 100 in a single facility because they only have one facility No city is going to build 10 times the capacity they normally require for shits and giggles on the off chance someday you might have to cremate 1 of the population in a short timeBut lets assume thats accurate 30 crematories Thats enough capacity to do 360 per day 247 If the natural death rate is around 200 per day thats an unused capacity of 160 per dayWhich is totally in line with what I already backoftheenvelope wildassguesstimated 133I dont know what their facility distribution looks like Maybe they have one giant stateowned facility Maybe they have lots of smaller facilities I dont know I might be off by a factor of 2 or 3 maybe even 5All I know is that thinking they have 10x100x the capacity that they require for the natural death rate just because is nuts|0 I made the mistake of popping a couple of edibles and watching the series Containment on Netflix Scared myself so badly that I had to text a friend to talk me down|0 In private conversation most scientists I know working in this field are terrified And pretty much every lab I know is prepping to go remoteTerrified Remote How so|0 Dunning Kruger effect Too stupid to realise theyre stupid|0 Sounds about right The US GOVT knew about Covid19 back in December of last year and pretended it didnt exist until the last couple weeks we are a propagandist dictatorship we are lucky they let us into their borders considering politicians are among the majority infected|0 and another 20 openly chuckle at it no fucks given Maha Rushie told them its just a common cold|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Old SCUBA trick for you because masks fog up either spit on your lenses or use a little washing detergent both sides distribute then wipe off possibly not these daysdo at home though |0 httpsmyoutubecomwatcht2460vomj53x5aB3Yfeatureyoutube42 minutes in Fauci spells the cfr out in comparison to other viruses Hes never downplayed anything I believe youre conflating him with Pence who just reiterates The risk is low|0 Yeah my family members are the same way getting pissed making them use hand sanitizer before entering the house Better safe than sorry|1 United States of Smash|1 I just added a toggle to change the scale from linear to log Hope that helps|1 You want a Wuhan bar burger instead|1 I think the whole point is that they dont know how to or are powerless to stop their problems and they drink to forget|0 That dude is a badass|0 Id recommend that article to anyone who wants to see the numbershttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99cahttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99caassuming this is the one you are talking about|1 How about you help poorer countries Bill You already have too much money|1 theres something very strange about your reasoningWhy is it too late to have the police force everyone to stay insideIt seems more like such measures are unnecessary hereI live in toronto for example rather than it somehow being too late|1 Haha classic Reddit|1 Happened to me at the school I work at We teachers raised a big fuss and teacher was told to stay home and sit out his remainder of quarantine I bet if the parents somehow found out or the department of public health found out it would be a pretty big deal Maybe let it slip to the media|1 Ive only seen a study where it was used for a handful of people for contact tracing successfully No screening yet|1 The Coronavirus causes a cascade of organ failure resulting from lack of oxygen|0 Good luck from Paris be safe|1 So the greatest country in the world who had 2 months to prepare wasnt at all prepared to test more than 500 people after several months All while the dumbass in office tweeted repeatedly to insult his opponents and brag about the economy oh and go golfing at his resort This should really highlight where his priorities lie|0 Relevance is that you said the only saving grace We can do better We dont have to live like that WE are the Government and we are failing|1 Just throwing out random ideas here but I cant help but make a connection to this quick shutdown by the NBA and Kobe Thats not to say that the league would not have shut down if his death didnt happen or that it was even a consideration at all in making this decision but the fragility of life has to be freshly embedded into the collective consciousness of the whole league right now|0 How about outperformed everybody else I dont see a single blessed soul coming outta this philly shitsteak sandwich like a champ except China People need to put their civic duty and altruism before their first amendment rights and self entitlement because soon enough those who dont will go to heaven and hang out with Tupac if they are not burning in the other place with Jeff Amherst And by people I mean you partner|1 woohoo I work in a hospital here|1 I mean lung fibrosis you know some say its irreversible some say it passes after you get well I dont know|1 I demand proof Dose him up to the eyeballs with his miracle cure and then give him a viral load big enough to kill Samson Repeat the test on him until we have a representative data set or he keels over whichever comes first|0 You just reminded me that we have a local 247 grocery store thank you We probably wont really need to go back to the store for a while but going overnight could really help reduce exposure|1 Yes this shod be implementeted nationally Or even better the whole world should get involved|1 Funny that the cases in China are also on the decline they have been very forthcoming with info about the virus Hubei province has 20k people with the virus leftlast week it was 30k it looks like China has beaten it back successfully|1 That drive sucks especially through the Stockton area I used to commute from redacted to South SF that was brutalIve been tracking since the beginning and stocked up months ago and knew right off the bat that thousands of folks from our areas were going to be bringing that back with them|0 I agree Our biggest defence right now is knowledge we cant have the knowledge with the damn tests|1 The only thing not nice is pay Freedom wise you cant get much better|1 If we dont get ahead of this now you can look forward to a lot of actually sick people in your store|0 Thank you for being reasonable and levelheaded I think that testing is still severely underperformed in the US because there are people with the right severe symptoms who still cant get tested But its really not feasible to test every single person including those who are healthy or have very mild symptoms There are a lot of people who have the sniffles or a mild cold who just need TO STAY HOME and selfisolate|0 This is experience from 2003 SARS Some holds true to nCoV but I believe most of the treatment protocol right now is symptoms treat|1 Because the people in charge of it dont give a fuck about anyone other than themselves and their moneySpeaking as a Canadian I hate the US rn for its corrupt apathetic capitalistic government|0 They forget that their address is on record somewhere Plenty of less amicable people are already talking about purging their bosses and such I definitely dont condone it but especially for the smaller leadersauthority figures its generally not a good idea to piss people off during situations where they are scared stressed and in some cases downright desperate|0 There was a study that was shared on this subreddit a day ago where researchers at Wuhan found that if they had imposed lockdown just five days earlier the situation there would have been 13 as bad as it was and if they had waited five days to impose lockdown the situation would have been five times worseAlsomeasures such as imposing lockdown are actually part of the recommendations that are given out by the experts on how to handle a pandemicits considered an NPI nonpharmaceutical intervention that can help to save lives|1 Better explanation|1 hope all goes well mate God bless|1 Breastfeeding has been observed to give the baby healthy antigens and does not transmit the virus Yea i need a source for that or frankly id like you banned for spreading misinformationIm not saying youre lying but I have been doing my research well before people began to panic and even before this sub existed and I have not seen this information anywhere at all from any sourcebabies and small children are the least likely to catch the virusThis is just a rumor Babies are more likely to be asymptomatic but no one has any idea if they are truly less likely to be infected|0 They sound like Ken M|1 Yep I agree 100 and I also think that every country is going to put their economy first It is a real shame I have been following and I have a bad feeling that this has a much higher death rate than what anyone will admit I am so nervous because it is so obvious that we will never really know the real numbers here in the states They wont test the young they wont cancell schools and big gatherings of people It just seemd like all countries are on board to decrease the global population Why are we not taking precautions|0 It still slow it down if they have to stay for 14 days And some people probably give up going that far So it reduces the total number of people entering|1 theres an element of random chance too if the people getting it just happen to be susceptible theyll die from it How many vulnerable people get it compared to how many with amazing immune systems wont perfectly average out necessarily Especially if we abe measures in place to protect more vulnerable people as priority|0 This Im fucking fuming over that thread|0 What good would that do|1 Being prepared to conduct local testing cuts cost and increases local revenues Dont think them being prepared is associated with them knowing something the public doesnt|1 Seriously why is every story brutal like this Ive yet to hear one person yet whos been diagnosed as clear say they had mild bearable symptoms yet cases like this apparently only occupy 20 wheres all the stories of people saying they breezed through this if its only 20 of people who get like this what evidence do we even have to suggest its not always like this|1 Aside from demand issues it wouldnt do any hard to wear one right|0 Its irresponsible for the mods of this sub to continue letting stuff like this be posted|0 I came down with something a week ago my order of symptoms achey headache serious fatigue fever very sore throat drainage but no sneezing or nose blowing no cough some tightness of the chest I had a 100deg fever for about 5 days I am usually a lil low Its gone down now Today I have a runny nose but am better otherwise Part of me doesnt want to be that guy but the other part thinks I have it No way would they give me a test bc my fever wasnt very high and I dont meet their other criteria|0 japan did as well|1 If you can get better without treatment its mild|1 And then when they get sick doubt they have ventilaters In the shoe|0 Say that a group of people do gather what are they going to do arrest them Forcing them to huddle even closer together in a police department|0 To be fair Bill Gates has been doing this for years and years already Now it just matters more|1 Jacksonville FL Typically Publix at 7am has maybe 510 people now its like 5060 Friday morning we had plenty of water now this morning the shelves are empty No chicken Plenty of red meat though My local farmers market store is always fully stocked and this weekend they were running low on so many produce and meat items I work for a child welfare agency contracted with DCF and the governor is giving us a 30 day grace period for certain time frames and our training classes for prospective foster parents have been postponed for 2 weeks which might be extended beyond that depending on what happens|1 Way to go Lowes I normally have nothing buy complaints for them but I will give credit where credit is due|1 I quit recently too for unrelated reasons but its likely not going to help usIts the lifetime of smoking thats gonna matter Not the fact that we quit three months before the virus hit us|0 Just wait a few more days or weeks people will look at you like a freak if youre not wearing a mask It happens the same at my country but now people dont even step outside of their home|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well YOU dont have to worry about I guess as you are not in healthcare Your response suggests it Leave it bro as you spewing shit|0 Oh thought it was higher Oh well I think were still in like the top 5 or 10 for lifespan Like in general if you die when youre 80 its common to say here that you died kinda early Probably depends on the region you live in tho|0 Thanks |1 Well if I only have a 25 chance of getting sick Ill just go about my day normallyThe idiots and partiers are going to shift to this argument within the day guaranteedThat actually hurt to write|0 It looks like its back online now although it was down a few hours ago|1 Ok now Im panicking|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 You find out who your friends are|1 Yes|1 We recommend caution when attending St Patricks Day parties or bar eventsWe are fucking doomed Did this to ourselves by voting these fucks in|0 I walked out if phoenix airport today as I was getting ready to board my flight to FL The complete disregard that anything is going on people openly coughing and one lady collapsed on the floor in front of me was enough to eat my 600 ticket|0 Really infuriating Just spent a week in Switzerland Im a UK resident to help my sister whos just come out of hospital after tumor removal at the same hospital where the first death was recorded CHUV Lausanne In a week here Ive only seen 2 other people wearing masks in canton Vaud My sister decided today to homeschool her 2 kids for the next 23 weeks as theres still no decision to close schools Shes supposed to start chemo in 2 weeks but not sure if its a wise thing with hospitals potentially facing Italyscale pressure and her immune system already depressed What a time to be diagnosed with stage 4 cancer |0 Same I somehow got mono when I turned 22 I dont have any major issues but I definitely have been the same since as far as stamina|1 no the moment they were reported singing like this was the worst time The next weeks although the number keep climbing eveyone knew things are slowly back to normal|0 the number went down after xi jinping told the workers to return to work|1 Target would never do this Ever since giving us 13 an hour they have treated us like shit and wont fire us but will make you quit|1 F that Also from a business perspective we dont want sick people around our food Let them rest|1 Hand sanitizer is effective for corona virus and it doesnt live on surfaces for days more like a few hours maximum|1 Haha I guess its to each their own For me I enjoy the act of giving and Ive been to so many and been the groom myself Im just over it Would rather chill than put on the suit drive however far away sometimes its hot af outside etc I was mainly kidding though I dont want us to all turn into the fatties on WallE|1 We need emergency universal basic income for this problem|0 I doubt hundreds of million as that is a fear mongering statement of absolutes At worst case with current data percentiles it will be 225 million using 753 billion at 3 mortality This would be if every person on Earth gets infected and the virus trends at a higher then current mortality Theres enough freaky shit without speaking opinions as absolutes even if crossing 200 million is your definition of hundreds of millions its a panic inducing statement that is very subjective and is based on nothing but understanding how bad pathogens can become Possible yes but very improbable|0 I disagree quality journalism is needed on this more than ever all governments seem to be covering this up expensive investigative journalism is the only way to understand whats really going on This costs money People should pay for their high quality news sources|0 Hes just protecting himself in case the little demon spawns have a tantrum and they throw their crap at him for no reason|0 Lemme guess the food is to die for|0 Is this an Onion headline JC what a time to be alive|1 Wait how the hell are they up to human trials already|0 I am in the exact same boat Ive been very impressed by his overall response|1 They need to be more than criticized|0 Estimates for normal influenza deaths in the US during 2020 flu season at 14k36k Just in America in 2020You want to sound the Pandemic alarm when the coronavirus death count is under 2k With the bulk occurring in the origin city which is larger than the size of NYC|0 The corona virus is paralysis peoples lungs I thought the sedatives were for those who were in extreme confront Also is it possible to push some of the fluid out by being upside down and coughing really hard|0 and you had very fine people in that group on both sides and im not talking about the neo nazis or white nationalists because they should be condemned totally thats his full quote and remarks afterwards dont fucking katter as he clearly condemned the nazis|0 I think Taiwan was the earliest to begin moving to protect their citizens and they are doing a stellar job They began making changes while China was still silent on the issue|1 Good bot|1 253 billionhttpswwwreferencecomworldviewmanyadultsliveusab830ecdfb6047660 Seriously|0 Anyone who still vapes needs to stop right now or COVID19 will stop your bad habits for you Seriously your lungs might fail if you get infected|0 Good point They didnt do virus culture afaik so no way to know for sureAnother study for previous SARS shows similar fecal shedding but the virus is inactivehttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle102pdfs030734pdfWe detected SARSCoV in fecal and respiratory specimens and found that SARS casepatients may have highconcentrations of virus in stools during the 2nd week of illness and continue to shed the virus in feces until at least 26days after onset of symptoms The amount of SARSCoVin stool from a casepatient with moderate diarrhea wassimilarly high to the quantity seen in a sputum specimencollected from a different casepatient at the same intervalafter illness onset However no virus could be culturedfrom any stool specimens that were PCRpositive forSARSCoV suggesting that SARSCoV in feces may bepresent in the form of either nonviable viral particles orantibodycoated virusHowever a more recent lancet commentreview cited several studies that show the virus from feces can still be infectious for 24 dayshttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslangasarticlePIIS2468125320300480fulltextData exist to support the notion that SARSCoV and MERSCoV are viable in environmental conditions that could facilitate faecaloral transmission SARSCoV RNA was found in the sewage water of two hospitals in Beijing treating patients with SARS12 When SARSCoV was seeded into sewage water obtained from the hospitals in a separate experiment the virus was found to remain infectious for 14 days at 4C but for only 2 days at 20C12SARSCoV can survive for up to 2 weeks after drying remaining viable for up to 5 days at temperatures of 2225C and 4050 relative humidity with a gradual decline in virus infectivity thereafter13 Viability of the SARSCoV virus decreased after 24 h at 38C and 8090 relative humidity13 MERSCoV is viable in low temperature low humidity conditions The virus was viable on different surfaces for 48 h at 20C and 40 relative humidity although viability decreased to 8 h at 30C and 80 relative humidity conditions14 At present no viability data are available for SARSCoV2The viability of SARSCoV and MERSCoV under various conditions and their prolonged presence in the environment suggest the potential for coronaviruses to be transmitted via contact or fomites SARSCoV and MERSCoV are both viable in conditions with low temperatures and humidity12 13 14 Although direct droplet transmission is an important route of transmission faecal excretion environmental contamination and fomites might contribute to viral transmission Considering the evidence of faecal excretion for both SARSCoV and MERSCoV and their ability to remain viable in conditions that could facilitate faecaloral transmission it is possible that SARSCoV2 could also be transmitted via this route12 refers to this paper httpsiwaponlinecomwstarticleabstract52821311065ConcentrationanddetectionofSARScoronavirusin|0 If your name is Ryan thanks|1 Does anyone else cringe while watching their family eating Its so dumb but food feels so precious right now My husband opened up a few containers of juice for the kids for dinner and I was super irritated that he didnt ration it better|1 They would have blocked any large droplets sneezedcoughed by the patient and its possible there was some very minor virucidal effect by the aromatic herbs many herbs do have some minor virucidal constituents used as basic form of selfprotection as plant immune systems are much less sophisticated but contrary to popular alternative medicine most do not have significant effects in the body and are rapidly destroyed when consumed they stuffed into it but dont get me wrong this would have no real protective effect in a modern sense just some minor buff to the whole stopping large droplets thing and maybe being less prone to building up contaminants inside For the time it would have been relevant though it would be nothing compared to a regular N95 from todayI am guessing the main protective effect was the intimidation factor keeping people at a very far distance|0 Hey man you are the reason why this virus has spread across the continent why A small sacrifice of staying at home to controll the spread Is seen as a violation of han rights how about the spread of a disease knowingly what should It Be considered a heroic act Common sense Is not common igronance isnt Just a disease but a gift|1 Similar to how I feel if a couple of the hundreds of videos are true it blows the lid off of everything|1 I could care less if your astonished|1 Oh okay good I wasnt aware antiretrovirals worked on things that werent retroviruses|1 I truly do not understand why people feel the need to continue to travel despite the steadily increasing rate of infected people worldwide Is it truly that hard to set aside your personal desires for your own wellbeing and the wellbeing of the billions of people on this planet People need to take matters into their own hands and stop being dumb asses Dont be a patient 31|0 I dont know why thered be any reason to think it would go down to 1 in the USA Coronavirus doesnt care about American exceptionalism|0 5k If youre lucky|1 World growth seems to be far outpacing China am I correct|1 You gotta remember that norway is rich af Not all countries could do this|1 There is going to be large brigades of marketing company monkeys spilling all over socialist media spouting the same Chinese communist talking points A It is racist B The flu is worse C Everything is fine the factories are back to normal D You are overreacting E Very few people get sick Whenever you hear someone spouting this nonsense you know who is a supporter of the Chinese Communist Party With that said Dont panic Just be ready to take a couple of months off with a staycation at home Get the flu medicine in Some easy to prep food Have a plan with your friends and neighbours if someone gets sick and needs critical care Good hygiene lots of handwashing wipe down surfaces with bleach or a 70 alcohol mix Keep the outside out of the house So use one entrance and remove shoes and outside clothes before going into the rest of the living space Wash your clothes making sure that you are not infecting the house while moving dirty laundry to the laundry room It is not the end of the world People are going to get sick It is going to suck but not everyone will need critical or serious care Plan prepare be practical As for the communist shills they are just outing themselves Next time lets not move our real economy to a communist dictatorship just so Wall Street can get rich off of slave labour|1 Nice|1 Not sure if youve seen this advice shared around but whats most helpful isnt changing your behavior to avoid catching it but instead to change your behavior to avoid giving it to others nbsp Most of the people who got infected and transmitted it to others didnt know they were carriers I wouldnt know you wouldnt know But if everyone wears masks while close proximity in crowds then asymptomatic carrier would limit their transmission to others|0 no where near as horrible as the govt outright refusing to communicate anything from sante qc in english |0 Service workers are also risking their lives so you can go and buy groceries eat out buy your beer and bourbon fill your car with gas receive your parcels etc Lets not forget these people who are on the frontlines every day without protective gloves face masks goggles or instant access to medical help should they fall ill Three cheers to service workers everywhere|1 Hey uFluGuy2019 I actually just posted about a forum I built to help fight misinformation herehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf784fpusethissitetoaskverifieddoctorsanything that could be helpful to you or Mike youll be able to ask verified doctors anything about the Coronavirus and hopefully clarify any doubts Hope it helps and thx for the rant it cracked me uphttpswwwaskdrcospacescoronaviruscovid19httpswwwaskdrcospacescoronaviruscovid19|1 The quote that went along with the donations from Japan to China was actually used more than a thousand years ago during Chinese Tang Dynasty when for the sake of communicating the knowledge of Buddha Japanese authority made and sent thousands of Buddha gowns to Chinese monks and all the gowns were embroidered with kanji which roughly means mountains and rivers on different lands wind and rain under the same sky And it was under this spirit a famous Chinese monk against many of his fellows wills since back then the voyage to Japan was quite long and precarious brought with his pupils attempted six times over the course of many years experienced all sorts of adversities eventually went blind to finally reach Japan It had a longlasting cultural influence between the two nations|0 Nothing says I am serving the community and not promoting yourself as a profile thumbnail on a reddit post|0 I cant believe youre getting upvotedMost of the cases are in China its people in China who are actually dealing and living through this crisisI live in a city with more than 200 people infected Im not Chinese but I do live here Im glad someone across the planet that actually is not in the middle of a crisis can tell us what to actually do and how to feelI read both western news Chinese news and have friends all over china Not vloggers but just random people who have normal jobs We update each other with informationThere is clear data on the effects of the virus if youre in a specific demographic you should be terrified but the reality is that most of us are not Were still at home all day everyday for the sake of public health Overreacting to this virus could cause panic and mass hysteria That could actually kill a lot more people than this virus You dont know shit about ChinaDont be so arrogant as you sit half way across the world and lecture us about a situation that you dont understandWhen your city gets to at least 20 people with the virus then we can talk|0 Not everyone panics The people that usually think the world is ending usually do Based on my weeks on this sub id figure its the majority of this sub that will actually panicYou only need a small of people panicking and you have empty shelves Honestly id bet the people that have prepped now will go do a second run when some sort of news breaks out|1 Lets be realistic here and stop fear mongering Yes it is very serious even if you are in your 2030s as this is not just some type of flu However if you are in that age range you have a very very low chance of dying from the virus if you have no underlying conditions You will get very sick still and it will suck but the chances of you dying are very low We should be safe guarding our elderly and sick though which is something people in that age range need to take seriously Just because it doesnt kill you doesnt mean you dont become a carrier of it and give it to someone who eventually does die from it I am in a hot zone in the US and have the opportunity to go to an area that has no chance of getting it but wont because I dont even want to take a chance of potentially infecting my parents|0 puppetsThis is an ill thought donation saves lives through WHO and US is the largest contributor to WHOhttpswwwkfforgglobalhealthpolicyfactsheettheusgovernmentandtheworldhealthorganizationhttpswwwkfforgglobalhealthpolicyfactsheettheusgovernmentandtheworldhealthorganization|0 The stupid are everywhere|0 There are no tests for the poorBut the poor cant afford to travel internationally and thats why the rich are getting hit first They are spreading it and can afford the best healthcare but watch out once us working folk start getting hammered with zero access to tests or healthcare accessHowever this makes an amazing case for Bernie Sanders Medicaid for All|1 Most young people are not even voting Whats the turnout 19 pathetic|0 Its all fun and games in Wuhan until they hear TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING|1 Deaths are more difficult to evade My working assumption take deaths in my state now just 2 and multiply by 140 the South Korean rate of casesdeaths and this is the worst case scenario for cases and the best case scenario for case fatality rate|0 I didnt understand even the half of this but I find the topic fascinating Could you recommend some books on the mechanism of how viruses work Im used to reading academic stuff and have a decent knowledge about medical issues Thanks a lot|1 Unsure how much to trust CNBC They are part of the media that said Epstein killed himself There is definitely a connection with US foreign policy|0 The main population is in GTA thats the part that is expected to have massive numbers of new cases BCs update is 83 cases today alone Some sketchy shit|0 26 years old taking care of my 84 year old grandfather in the Villages Ive pretty much put him on house arrest|1 Holy shitthis shit isnt a small fucking deal anymore Im fucking worried Ive stopped doing uber and lyft driving|0 Why do you downvote his comment If you disagree BRING UP FACTS From our standpoint right now no your not immune yes you do Reinfect yourself If its like hiv from yourself or from your own immune system not sure how it works or from other people is yet to be proven There is no data showing immunity there is multiple data showing reinfection Could it be 3 false negatives in a row Yes We just dont know yet only time will tell|0 yet he has stated on many occasions he has not been tested and he def never lies so|1 httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200130926477v1 At this nucleotide substitution rate the most recent common ancestor tMRCA of 2019nCoVs appeared about 02530594 year before the epidemic Conclusion Our analysis suggests that at least two different viral strains of 2019nCoV are involved in this outbreak that might occur a few months earlier before it was officially reported|0 They like to keep it a secret so it doesnt cause panic The Wuhan Approach|1 Where in Canada We are in a suburb of Toronto Toronto has had a few cases and now Hamilton has a suspected one We have been slowly putting together food and an emergency kit for our family At Costco today it was insanity My husband had to wait 10 minutes just for a parking spot way at the back and they were wiping down everyones carts on entry Its normally busy but it was way busier than usual today No masks to be had anywhere nearby for over a month at least|0 I think current advice is to call before going to a doctor ffs dont take public transport there maybe dont go to one in a shopping centre|0 I think they are acting like teenagers that dont like something mainstream because its mainstream i dont think they actually believe in itAntivax actually believe that crapAnd yes school has become shit but here it still barely stands somehow|1 Id say a few thingsThis is the first major social media virus we forget how less connected we were in 2009 For context I remember being a teenager and hearing a story about a cool new site that until recently you had needed an invite to join in 2007 called Facebook My friend had just gotten an iPhone Its kinda wild to thinkNext Its the first epidemic in the age of social media thats hit Western countries or prior to that posed a risk to Western countries so theres been an underlying awareness and fear that wasnt there for Ebola Then Its a lot more moving fast or feels faster than previous outbreaks Again Im sure us checking our phones every 5 minutes might be reinforcing that too Ie What a new case in this place in the middle of nowhere Ive never heard of and whose name I will forget before I leave the bathroom No this is bad Also It originating in China was problematic As it originated in one of the places were everyone rightly or wrongly would be suspicious of the figures which led to a bias in assuming it must be much worse than people are telling us and not just in China but that it was a coverup globally Last I cant stress this enough dont mistake a governments incompetence with the belief that things are way worse and theyre somehow hiding it|0 I dont see how this is even relevant hereNot everyone is American so Yeah|1 Fap to protect life permissible|1 even in China we only had 3000 Good luck Italy|1 nice|1 All it takes is a little socialism to mess it up|0 Yeah I signed up for a free trial of this and Im disappointed bc of the lack of availability Im going to have to use Kroger pick up or Aldis drop off|0 And this my friends is why health care is through the roof expensiveWe should be suing them for charging 11000 for a cheap valve|1 Im terrified when I think about Russia as a person who lived there for thirty years Bad hygiene bad medicine tight ties with China in East and high population density in West not sure but in Moscow and SaintPetersburg it seems several times higher then in Beijing for example And overall 100 attitude of thats just a flu its not a reason to not to come to work people often prefer to ignore even serious illnesses there And lots of people with no respect to society no willingness to sacrifice anything for the good of society in this respect Russia is much closer to US than to China No chances of quarantine being successful|0 My wife is a teacher and shes the most diligent person I know She gets home at 500 makes dinner for our children once kids are in bed works most nights of the week 730 1030 marking and preparing lessons She has Friday and sometimes Saturday evening off but works every Sunday and I look after the kids Ive begged her to not go into work next week but the students have coursework deadlines coming up and she wants to help the ones who are struggling to get a better grade Shes a fucking hero and works her arse off for 30000 a year Not to mention the abuse she gets and the constant name calling She like a lot of teachers genuinely cares about the children she teaches and even the rude kids makes excuses for usually its because theyve got shitty parentsOn top of this shell probably contract Covid19So as a husband of a teacher I want you to know that I appreciate what you go through and I thank you for your professionalism and dedication to your job Its disgusting that this government constantly through hard working people under the bus|1 Italy now at 350million cases holy crap|0 Wow|1 Thanks friend Stay safe out there|1 They know they know that the services cant cope Herd Immunity those that survive didnt die and carry on|1 Because English tourists are some of the worst people in the world Im English and almost always whenever I see another English person interacting with a foreigner it makes me want to die of embarrassment|0 I will be messaging you in 11 days on 20200324 055445 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003242005544520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfg282difusaclosedallschoolsandmajorbusinessesfk36oficontext310 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ffg282d2Fifusaclosedallschoolsandmajorbusinesses2Ffk36ofi2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032420053A543A4520UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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make him stop his wife from going to Zuma classes Because its what she likes to do Im like do you like to die Because thats what will happen at your age He got it|1 We desperately need to slow down the spread because Canadas health system can not handle an influx of sick people all at once I have been following this from the beginning Canada is putting steps into place but they are being to slow about everything we are not ready for this|0 Get infected early and often just like voting|0 Opted for the penne as my fav the fussili was out only some weird stuff left|1 Oh fuck|0 Having travelled extensively to both china and the west and being bilingual I can safely say I feel safer being in China than being in the west|1 The intentional genocide of a minority group propaganda on a scale unimaginable to those outside of the country secret police that disappear people who speak out against the ruling partywhich one would you like to start with Lol|1 Not reallypreventative measures in terms of a highly infectious disease would involve widespread testing and enforced quarantines of any positives or presumptive positives There was practically 0 testing until recent days and even now its only happening for people who are sick enough to show symptomsSouth Koreas widespread testing whether you have bad symptoms or not showed around 30 of cases to be in the 2029 age range Compare that to Italy who like the US are only testing the sick and are only showing around 4 of cases in the 2029 age range What this tells us is that the majority of young people who contract the virus feel perfectly healthy and continue on about their daily lives2029 year olds congregate more than any other age group Theyre not adopting social distancing And it is only being suggested not enforced This weekend saw packed bars all across america There are probably hundreds of thousands of cases by now The US is fucked for the next little while|1 The problem with any of these types of reports is that they only have those who went and got admitted to hospital So you see a narrow scope Guy who goes my throat is sore and then goes on with his life never shows in these without random antibody titers of random people|0 Of course I know my saying that wont give them a sudden change of heartDoesnt mean I cant call them out directly on a sub rumored to be censored by them Making it known to other readers what most of us know or at least suspect is going on hereIm completely powerless in this but I can at least try to spread awareness and directly implicate them Global awareness is the best chance these men standing up to them have gotFuck the Chinese Communist Party And Fuck you Xinnie|1 Yep again its toilet paper One thing is for sure we are going to have some very clean assholes for the next few weeks|1 Great Can you let everyone sending those bills know that they dont matter Not sure theyre on the same page yet|1 Just wanted to say thank you for this It is really well cited and super informational Please keep posting them as you have updates|1 Patrick vallance stated in the select comittee that roughly there were likely 1000 cases for every death|0 Keep the battlefield injuries and follow up care in house outsource the rest There is no good reason to send a veteran to the VA for routine care and chronic illnesses for like diabetes copd etc that can be managed through something like the current congressional insurance plan with zero out of pocket cost|1 Starbucks Hi Id like one Nitro Corona Brew and an iced mochorona extra cough|1 Not arguing just asking you to provide examples or proof of your claimsThe only thing i can think of that they have is rare earth metals and if they lost all business with the US they would not be stingy about selling them They also have accessible trade with NK which has large deposits as well but i dont think NK allows them to mine there|1 Lots of smokers and pollution outside China as well|1 Not really though there is no reason to believe that if they were better funded they would made a better decisionI am not sure whether its Trump fault or does the CDC and FDA have the authority to make these decisions without informing the executive branch but the problem is surely not that there was no belief in government in the decision process quite the opposite actually|0 Please someone give this kid a kebab|1 To the global economy its just as dangerous is all I can assume I dont think the ranking is really about how bad it is more of a scale for how governments should react and how much money they should fund in research|0 You do know the ones that are angered by this you can contact people principal superintendents local authorities thru phone and tell them to take more sensible action I swear a lot of whiners on this sub Not a lot of proactive doers Its easier to bitch I guess|0 Still seems a little irresponsible|0 Oh yeah these products can be made anywhere in the world yet they are made them in China and shipped halfway across the globe to the USA What a moronic thing to do right|0 Yes Plus the issue with aerosol transmission last time had more to do with bad plumbing that allowed it to spread Its not as much of a concern in modern properly fitted plumbing systems|0 It was a mistake sorry Fixed now|0 Gotta love this guy|1 In an imaginary world wishing it away could have worked I am pretty sure that is what he has been doing If he says it is better enough times maybe the big bad virus that is backed by the evil democrats will go away That is about all he did with any possible window of opportunity for prevention He was a business man only worried about the stock market Even if he had been a decent president up until this point he has failed so epically as a leader there is no excuse for anything he has done from day 1 of this He continues to lie every chance he gets about the impact this is going to have on our country It endangers people who actually believe his BS over actual science Those are the idiots still getting on planes to Disney to mingle with the masses|0 true but ive seen people keep theirs on all day|1 nah this is the natural flow of events when it comes to things like this doomersconspiracy theorists are much more likely to seek out a sub like this than well reasoned or skeptical people|1 Whole foods employee here two weeks paid time off that doesnt come out of your normal pto The share your sick leave thing has been around for a long time and has nothing to do with the crisis Dont get me wrong I hate billionaires too|0 How do I get approved to post here|1 Its possible for them to be proctored online too A lot of online courses do it that way rather than the dreaded true takehome final where it takes 47 hours to complete|0 Maybe they want to cancel the elections just waiting for the virus to get uncontrollable|0 washing hands helps spread particles on surfaces but when infected you breathe out and then someone you are talking to breathes in Amazing really something can be that aggressive it needs to multiply and spread so badlyIm done with conversing with people in public all I say now is look after your elderly relatives Three people in trade places behind counters Ive visited all with new coughs Ive asked shit you okay They have joked dont worry its not coronavirusAssumption is the mother of all fuck ups The government needs to wake up the public with shock not tell them to wait until we can ensure economy can be stable And if loved ones die justTake one for the teamIt doubling every 34 days we have no choice now but make choices based on government guidelines Or from are own moral standingsWe have to decide|0 Go to work and get sent home for being sick|0 Ive heard this has the possiblility of infecting 6080 of the populationSource You do realize that your post is invalid if you cant provide an actual source for that number right Since youve based your entire post on bad math Last Ive heard was from Marc Lipsitch with 4070 but he changed that to 2060 Im not saying youre wrong per se but please provide source|1 Since this is the first time its become a major economic impact we can only hope that politicians take mitigation seriously in future|1 Thank you You as well|1 Have you thought about FaceTime or whatever with your family to virtually hang out Just because youre stuck in the room doesnt mean you cant socializeI think we need to call it physical distancing rather than social distancing|0 Thank you for the thoughtful and well researched support|1 Best post of the day|1 I like how the nobodypanic donkeys are in here through every cancelled flight every emergency declaration every new case every new method of spreading downplaying whats going on And on top of all that people like you and uBoyYeetzWorld with no self awareness talk shit about those rightfully worried about how this is handled|0 Yet he acted faster than most states still have yet to actso yeah|1 Also microsoft employee tested positive for covid19|1 I remember when trump got elected some people saying things like yeah but whoever the president is doesnt really affect me that much I guess that is close to true when everything is going well for people who are focused on just their daytoday lives But if something goes wrong in a way that needs actual leadership it makes a big fucking difference who the president is|1 Trump sounded sick in his address last night It could just be a cold but that is concerning You think the markets are down now I cant imagine what would happen if it was announced the entire whitehouse is possibly infected|0 Panic has officially hit Colorado Live in Denver metro areaI rolled my eyes at the mass tp buying last Saturday as I was doing my normal weekly shopping and saw people with carts full of just tp water and cleaning supplies Figured it would be restocked soon and all would be fineChecked several stores every evening after work since I was down to a few rolls nothingHad to resort to hitting up king soopers at 5am opening yesterday morning and there was already a lineI bought one pack of toilet paper Meat was all gone Most canned goods were gone as were onions potatoes iceburg lettuce and cold meds Oddly citrus fruits spinach spring mix and supplements were untouchedPasta was empty on the actual shelves managed to snag one pack while they were unboxing Pet food was close to gone No hand soap at all Ended up helping an older lady shop since people were being animals and she was afraid to move into the crowd to grab anything We were both disappointed to see that all the peanut butter was also gone Im curious how people are affording to panic purchase large amounts of food and goods while complaining they cant afford to be sent home from work as they are paycheck to paycheck They are either spending housing money or racking up their credit cards|0 NOT A DOCTOR Given that in ideal conditions the virus can live on surfaces for 23 days I would imagine the only nearcertain method would involve having a dropoff box and leaving items untouched for 4872 hours before your grandparents retrieve them Also wearing clean glovesmask to reduce the chance of transmission Ultimately I wouldnt enter their home or even speak to them in person at close proximity|1 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 You guys are damn heroes Hard not to care|0 I honestly cannot think of a worse group of people to have a discussion with because they are militantly entrenched in their belief that not only is weed not bad at all for you it is healthier to consume it than not|1 There are rumors that 2 of Houstons confirmed cases were seen shopping at the Sugar Land CostCo a week ago Unfortunately thats right down the road from me|0 I feel ya Im stage 2b Hodgkins Lymphoma Thankfully got work to let me work remotely I work in a germ factory aka a preschool but weve two small kiddos so Im never completely quarantined Hopefully I just need to make it to summer|0 Maybe he thinks super spreader is something cool|1 True however if they tested and knew there was an outbreak in the area places with vulnerable people like nursing homes could have special procedures to limit outside contact the workforce could also be told to not go in if symptomatic even if they thought it mild and just a cold etc|1 That is a really good question This is important infoThe reason why this kind of study takes some time are mostly because they study the live virus and to establish these systems a few things need to be performed it requires a robust method to measure virus infectivity PCRbased assays are not suited but plaque assays or TCID50 must be used which has to be established in the lab That takes time due to various variables cell line to be used incubation time what kind of overlay agarose methylcellulose 12 weeks it requires a proper virus stock high infectivity little variability stability when frozen down Similarly takes some time 2 weeks at best it requires reproducibilty before publishing 1 weekIn summary it takes around 45 weeks at earliest to get this kind of data out if all experiments go according to plan which is quite unusualIn short Someone is definitely working on it |1 Must be incredible We do not feel like this in US We have politicians trying to give us 500 to last 3 months Laughable While they bail out wallstreet with 15 trillion|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 There is a very fine line between the diffrenceshttpsabcnewsgocomUScoronaviruscomparessarsmersrecentviraloutbreaksstoryid69329364 between them SARS MERS and COVID19 are all respiratory illnesses that are caused by the same large family of viruses called coronavirus Coronaviruses are actually quite common They are the source of many of the common colds that people get and recover from every day The important thing to remember is this is whatever you want to call it it is much deadlier than the public is giving it credit forThis virus is growing exponentially faster than any of its cousinsat the rate this is growinghttpswwwgeogebraorgmmcvm2mdx the total number of people infected could EASILY top a million Stay safe yall|1 Some people still have no clue Some have their heads in the sand I ask my parents after increments of discussion where their excuses were its not in the USA its not in NYC etc what will it take Will it need to be in your city It already is Will it need to be in your house Will your neighbor need to be hospitalized for it At what point will the water be hot enough for you to decide to jump out Our love of stuff will keep us in our homes as they burn down around us The economy is falling How much worse will it be if we dont contain it sooner than later I hear people saying that the panic is the pandemic that we are being irrational as a group Umm yeah China never shut down at the loss of their economic stability over the seasonal flu Nor did any other country|0 Who said the Americans saved us Maybe it wasnt so back then being a normal citizenbut it got all muddled with your afterwarpropaganda|1 They prepared with cash not physical suppliesCash is useless now for masks|0 My buddy was an early adopter He had all the best toys for the time Taught me how to dial into BBSs Sigh Days gone Also the person I blame for my still rampant abuse of the Civilization game franchise Biggest time thief of my life so far|0 Lol do you genuinely believe that almost every single person will be infected|0 I think theres a group of diseases that children usually shrug off but hit adults harder fifths disease So good news for kids if true|1 They are good too but I like how Dr Campbell presents his material Its more personal|1 Smoking It is a possible factor but I havent seen that data either way I will suggest it as a possible regression control factor Schools I have no idea Further spread in Guangdong is a major risk still right now I cant make a call either way|0 Maybe the military sector shouldnt be given billions to build new submarines planes tanks etc every year that the country doesnt need healthcare system is so disorganized|0 Well it was an email lol but I like the sentiment|1 And you cannot erase that from history anymoreNo but they can obscure it Look at how much people shit on ANYBODY who talks about 911 outside the official narrative|0 Wow thats really bad luck|1 Wow after only what one reported case|1 Yeah because the fast spread of the infection and we dont fully realize the scale its growing|1 This was a make or break year for E3 since they were going to try and shift direction after the criticism they got last year They might not recover from cancellingIts still unquestionably the right move in the face of a pandemic but this is gonna be worse for them than most other events People will still go to GDC next year when its safe to do so people probably wont be interested in E3 if publishers realize they dont need it anyway|0 Anyone seen the show The Walking Dead|0 Another moment for coronavirus that would be too overthetop to put into a movie Life is truly stranger than fiction|1 Ashamed to admit I took a very self centered view on this whole thing when I first started hearing about it Figured Im young healthy and strong basically immortal right Scoffed at people already wearing masks at work and refusing handshakes Dumb dumb dumb but Im in the game now thanks in no small part to the people on this sub Keep doing what youre doing you are getting through to some of us knuckle draggers Heres hoping we can reach the other cavemen before irreparable damage is done|0 Its sad people actually care about contracts and such during times like these They need to realize their health and the health of their families is the their sole responsibility Dont let anyone else think for you You feel at risk or not safe Good then stay home that easyYes theyll lose money Yes theyll lose their job Better than losing your life or a loved ones life Just ask anyone whos been in a serious emergency situation|0 We can only hope but according to a rough mathematical model I saw a few days ago the number of total cases doubles in around 3 days I fear that if we do chose to wait until then it may be a bit late|0 Keep in mind that here in Italy we have a strong protection of personal rights Some of the things China did are untinkable hereThe virus came here on 2526 January from Germany Our fist detected case is from 21 February|1 This speaks to what many people are starting to fear the UK is undertesting for Covid19 Its starting to feel a lot like we have no idea whats actually going on here tbh People think the gov are handling it well but it is quickly looking like theyre not being truthful|0 Thanks Our Governor is an idiot Sucks we had the choice between this idiot and a meth addict last election|0 And hiding the true death rate and just quarantine every one you have tried to show the truth Better die in freedom than survive in a totally regime|1 I prayed that I was wrong and that everyone was right but I couldnt help but feel vindicated when first the WHO declared pandemic and then we stared actually seeing cases For so long I am the crazy panicked mom in the family Bugging the inlaws lecturing parents and I could FEEL how people were like sigh shes coming fromA place of love just nod your head and say ok And it is so frustrating But now everyone is finally concerned with me It feels so much less isolating and lonely And frankly I was beginning to feel like maybe I WAS the crazy person|0 I think he was talking about the WHO I think this article mistranslated it but due to subreddit rules I had to post an accurate quote from the articleIsraels ministry of health is 100 in agreement with him on this which makes sense considering he is the head of government and ultimately their boss|1 Official cases are diagnosed cases Youre not diagnosed cause you came to the hospital too late and died Youre not an official case Even if they wanted to report all cases they dont they simply dont have the time tests and resources to test everyone Some say to take the official numbers and multiply by 10 Im more conservative go for 5|0 Yeah I live in the Tampa Bay Area in FL and everyone is going out as normal this weekend Its blowing my mind lol Im sitting at home like why the hell is no one taking it seriously|0 I will be messaging you in 2 days on 20200319 144835 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003192014483520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsfhljqjpatientinthehospitalwhatihavetosaymayfknnvdecontext32 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronaVirus2019nCoV2Fcomments2Ffhljqj2Fpatientinthehospitalwhatihavetosaymay2Ffknnvde2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020031920143A483A3520UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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Ohh I know its just a fun ride right Since dance clubs and pubs are closed I have to entertain myself somehow|1 For all the people commenting on the healthcare system in Italy most deaths are happening in a region that has top notch healthcare The quality of healthcare depends a lot on the region youre in if this had started in the south thered be apocalypse here no joke There is a MASSIVE difference between northern italy and southern italy Northern italy is very advanced southern italy is very poorThese are my 2 cents as I was born in Italy I dont think the healthcare system is actually playing a role in those deaths|1 It is very tough for small businessThe factroy cant work during the last two monthSmall business cant surfer from a long time rest because of the COVID19|0 Please dm me as well Could this be uploaded on youtube or they are censoring it too|1 So no one under 50 has died|0 Redditors like you love to counter with lame effort retorts like yours without providing anything meaningful to the discussion proving your naive worldview|1 She is only entitled to a medical screening exam If no acute medical emergency is present she can be sent away|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Yeah this conversation ended before it had a chance to start Btw hope you know your history and remember that every time lefties took control of the country people like you self perceived above average intelligence possibly jewish were the first victims Good luck|1 When the idiot in the Oval who denies science concedes that this is a fucking big deal its time to think of your familys best interests If anything the concert will likely be cancelled at this rate Compromise isnt middle ground with viral pandemics|0 If Trump was able to completely dismantle the entire US scientific community single handedly in just over three years then it clearly wasnt the best in the world|0 They are still pretending there isnt a problem No actual mention of a virus or health issue in the letter|1 Why take orders from the CDC Fuck the CDC which is following Republican orders States do your job|0 Absolutely 100Navient called me this morning about my federal school loans that im about a month behind on I have way bigger things to worry about than a school loan Straight to voicemail you go Which is funny any time they call it shows up as Scam call by my Android Caller ID|0 I was talking to a coworker about what is happening and he dismissed it by claiming that he had survived the Mayan end of the world in 2012 and that this was nothing more than stupid panic just like in 2012I was speechless What the fuck is wrong with people|0 Not exactly what I wanted to see after waking up late Thanks|1 Thats good to hear all villages should aim to be like your mothers village You can never be too safe in these situations Many overseas Chinese returning for CNY are prone to becoming sick just normal sicknesses due to the sudden change in air quality and this year coinciding with the outbreak really put people on edge when a returning family member was suddenly ill Same to you friend take care and all the best|1 i know theres a lot of doom and gloom going around but im at least thankful that this isnt going to take our children seems like a mini blessing in this overall horrible situation|1 Sound like my coworkers Do they also go to the doctor to get antibiotics when they have a cold|1 THANK YOU for reporting the ages I know any deaths are alarming and scary but AVERGE age being 81 in a country known for a high amount of smokers should say something|0 Are people not allowed to die in any other way except by CoronaVirus now Thanks for the misleading headline and unreasonable inference|1 Just what the fuck America|0 Nah just sympathizing|0 Dont get confused with warmer weather with plenty of sunlight Hotter places normally has more sunlight during day time which sunlight also has a high UV Index UV light kills germsSo naturally people may mistakenly associating warmer weather to kill germs but in fact it was the combination of sunlight and hotter temperature|0 I imagine theyre announcing these slightly earlier than they actually have to so that people have the chance to get used to the idea and so that people can start doing it voluntarily before they put in proper enforcement|1 Any reports of people dropping dead because of sudden severe onset of viral myocarditis Virus attacks heart fast causing quick deathdeterioration|0 call an ambulance if you want to go to the hospital not walk into the ae so they can quarantine you should you worsen|0 Absolutely horrid reporting At no point do they name the company who is threatening to sue|0 Its better not to These people cant be reasoned with But Facebook is truly scary We are seen by community members as being trusted and knowledgeable and theres so much just dont believe the hype its the media trying to scare you this is no different from flu memes being shared by nurses its unreal to me Makes me sick|0 As a coke merchandiser who travels all over the city each shift I dont think I stand a chance lol|1 Yes it is Cruel and greedy|0 Wasnt nicotine a treatment for swine flu|0 Yes And one downside of this is that this penalizes being healthy|1 Health policy by Jonathon Swift perhapsBrought to you by the same geniuses that brought you Brexit the Gallipoli campaign and the Great Smog of London|1 As a healthcare worker I concur x200BHospitals runs at 90 capacity asis And we have ZERO ability to coordinate our efforts as other countries have Most hospitals hell most units run as silos x200BTo make matters worse the issue is being downplayed Those who are concerned are ridiculed and accused of inciting panic x200BI truly wish anyone knew where this was going I think all we know for now is that the train has left the station|0 i dont think they are closing them they are talking about events like football games or concerts|1 I have very much enjoyed both of your commentsI do hope that relief will come to other regions too even if only due to lack of enforcement due to a judicial system that cant take such cases|1 I think so too I think most of us search for those reassurances but you should only feel somewhat reassured about your own life and still concerned for the lives of others Im not a basketball fan but when Kobe Bryant died recently it shocked a lot of Americans into realizing anyone can die at any time People forget so fast|0 fake news he said the mediia response was a hoax|0 Whats worst some leavers or all sickAlso in Europe payed leaves are the standard and people dont flee for home for no reasons at any time|0 This is the most concerning article I have ever read It is showing that out of 10000 cases 6 have already died and there are still 8500 cases with outcomes still to be determined This is no time to wear rose colored glasses|0 People in this thread talking out of their ass Company I work for which is more or less another Facebooklike Silicon Valley company has 6000 employees globally in their customer service and technical departments alone This doesnt include contract work which spans janitorial maintenance etc Many of us dont make anywhere near 6 figuresIf my smaller than Facebook company did it it would make a huge difference|0 General symptoms are Fever dry cough and muscle aches Lets take it day by day before we assume you have COVID19 You might but the evidence is starting to show that many people recover just fine on their own Take a tylenol and rest up If you start to develop anymore COVID19 systems then call your doctor again and ask to be processed at a hospital for a test|1 Hes angry because hes terrified and thats also why he is desperately clinging to the false hope that if he catches this it wont be that bad|0 Youre missing his point Its a mixed bag if theres a lot of asymptomatic cases Bad much harder to contain reduce spread through reactive measures or know the true scope Good case fatality rate is lower than we expected because of all the uncounted cases Also a lot of people are becoming immune in the background which will lower the number of susceptible individuals|0 Agreed I cant believe its happening in my life time|1 Washingtonian here no is doing jack shit at all|0 Now thats seriously terrifying|0 I work in retail right on the front lines Ive been having panic attacks just preparing to go to work and have been utterly despondent I have asthma and am on immunoblockers I try to stay inside every day Im not on work and use sanitizertry to wash my hands regularly but I never feel like its enough to do it I feel like its hopeless and nothing I do short of quitting my jobor going further than that so at least I dont infect my family people I care about and everyone in the area|0 No just no I dont want to hear one goddamn word from celebrities I want to hear from Doctors the President and thats it These people are all hypocrites and wont say anything that anybody needs to hear|0 That is so true Sadly I feel like a lot of the public only woke up to it after news broke that Tom Hanks and NBA players got it On the one side it makes me frustrated that it seems the rich and famous may be tested much quicker than regular people but on the other hand its kind of in our best interest to get celebs tested asap for publicity and in hopes of raising awareness and getting more numb skulls to listen Its really sad|1 Ive always head mild anxiety especially around my health Its been so much worse over the last month I understand how youre feeling|0 Wow thanks OP I never knew this existed either Ive been saving my free silver for a comment like this lol|1 Because it tastes better than rice|1 Expect to see a lot of people die from the flu|0 You know I cant believe I called China draconian for shutting down Wuhan and suggested this is nothing but another flu a month ago Now I realize how wise they were All government leaderships need to wake up and realize that this pandemic is going to overwhelm the world for the next twothree months Period Its too late to do much other than contain the speed of the spread Leaders should stop dithering and suspend all trading on the stock market They should require mortgage companies and banks to freeze mortgage and loan repayment requirements for the next twothree months Doesnt mean they dont get the money but they get it later Then everybody could breathe for a bit Next they should figure out how to support and maintain essential stuff like food and medical and utilities policing etc|1 TomHanks hopefully not|1 Dont worry guys April showers bring hot weather that will destroy Coronavirus Leader Trump said so|0 If it reaches Greenland were fuckeds|1 I like the second video|1 Are you going to revise this now that the NYT story reconstructing the first seven weeks of the virus is out It seems as if many of the statistics and dates that the world has been working with are wrong and this post is quite misleadingly reassuring that there was no cover up when it looks like it is now quite clear there was|1 FFS Thats just blind and stupid No disrespect to your familyfriends but shit man Im no genius but its clear as day this administration and our governments are jacked up|0 If a large outbreak happens were past any reasonable hope of testing all patients and suspected casesThe best use of resources right now is proactively IMO as during a serious outbreak any hope of keeping up is lost Furthermore learning more about the virus and preventing as much spread as possible will over time save more lives than refusing to do so The fact that there isnt a mountain of asymptomatic cases in this data set is already a quite important finding and if it can be corroborated with more systematic tests of entire populations like this we could benefit greatly in terms of our ability to control the virus Clearly if you believe WHOs China team lead the situation is not hopeless and the virus can be contained Some of the news and speculation recently was disheartening but news like these helps paint it quite clearly its within our power to stop this even If its going to be extremely difficult But then Im not an epidemiologist I can only go by what Ive learned from paying careful attention recently|1 I LOVE THIS|1 Their conclusions that there will be resurgent outbreaks are wrong After a few weeks of lockdown almost all infectious people are identified and their contacts are isolated prior to symptoms and cannot infect othersOr maybe because per sk and German data most cases are so mild that the infected recovered while in lockdown|0 Please push your carts at a normal speed Nobody is going to steal your food|0 You do realise the day of the month today rightThere is not a single case outside Wuhan of someone getting the virus who hasnt been to Wuhan Symptoms showing within 46 days means we absolutely would have had cases popping up So just stop trying to latch on to this idea that the world is falling apart and this virus is going to be INSANE|0 covid19 is the disease sarscov2 is the viruscovid19 just means coronavirus disease 2019 sarscov2 is severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2|0 Could you please provide that testimony Thanks|1 Maybe thats a viral pneumonia thing Im young and recently had bacterial pneumonia I was simply given antibiotics and went home no monitoring of any kind|1 How can you say that masks dont work when there are peerreviewed papers saying that they work with other dropletprecaution diseasesDo you have epidemiological data that backs this up|0 A visual lie detector filter on all cameras would either create mass hysteria or paradoxically stabilize global security Not sure which|0 But in the future theyll tell about how well America handled the virus like champs and had very little to no cases because weve got such a good health system The propaganda is real and its killing the entire country|1 When you say 80 have mild to moderate symptoms on what are you basing that statement especially as no one has any idea how many cases there are|0 Do you think we are better off not testing at all and allowing unmitigated community spread Italy is taking steps to try to contain The US is hardly even testing and it has been spreading for six weeks Check back with me in two months and we will see which countrys plan worked our better|1 The whole purpose of taking them out of school is to keep physical distance from each other right So essentially each child stays at home to keep from getting or giving the virus to another It defeats the purpose if we pack them all up in a room after effort was made to separate themWith that said I have no idea how people work if their kids have to stay home Ive thought about trying to help out because I KNOW some people are in a screwed up situation right now|0 There was this kid in china that developed pneumonia but showed no external symptoms and his young lungs managed to compensate for pneumonia for a long time He only got tested because his entire family tested positive except his sister who was even younger|1 Lol if youre clueless to how the campaign donation process works just ask someone Otherwise you just look like an idiot|0 I believe I saw a recent study that said handwashing reduced your risk of contracting the common cold by 16 Im that thats a pretty low number and that reducing other transmission methods should maybe get priority over handwashingEdit Make that 16 to 21 for flu and common cold viruses|0 This is incorrect The 20 of hospitalization ALL need intensive care The way the severe condition is described requires oxygenization which is done in the ICU|1 Where in that video does he say that Because I just watched it and he literally never says that at all He talks about disinfecting hightouch surfaces and hand washing|1 I understand their concerns But did they or did they not ignore the findings though That it was SARS and SARS like Coronavirus|1 I regret that I have but one upvote to give I think you should message the mods regarding tagging this as the headline is incredibly misleading|0 God this district has actually figured it AMAZING|1 Youre correct but there are multiple candidates in multiple states of human trials They can repurpose a lot of the things learned for this though and potentially speed the process up since its such an emergency|0 Probably would not have needed to even if technically true had some countries actually taken it seriously Not sure they will anyway but perhaps public pressure now will force them to take actionIts obvious that controlled actions like quarantines masks education actually nailing down travel in and outbound makes a big difference The countries that did that suffered much less Countries that ignored it will suffer more Still time to fix it or lessen the blow but well see if some countries actually do anythingIn the US not sure we are going to do a thing different Endemics and pandemics are not good for business the market or your political career so they dont have time for them|0 I think its because theyre selfish and stupid|0 Did you book with a credit card If so check your credit card policy Some cards have built in travel insurance for situations like this|1 Here it is I dont know how much more proof one needs Man dies live on air while complaining about Iraqs health servicehttpswwwarabnewscomnode1630336middleeast|0 I read it here but it is five days old httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheatlanticcomamparticle607597I would love to get a better understanding of capacity but I think I might have found something better even if the data rate is low and the sources need validatinghttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsu1d18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8whtmlviewsletrueThis shows that California regardless of capacity actually only has the second most tests performed That might be a better metric and I want to take the data from that spreadsheet into account in future posts|1 The WHO no travel ban statements are literally everywhere even on their official website If you think videos on national tv of the head of the WHO stating these things is fake then I cant help youwell literally no one on Earth can|0 I saw a documentary a few years ago about vaccine trials It was terrifying a few had cytokine storms never forgot about if not all this reminded me |0 Well me along with a lot of other people were around waaaay before the switchThis sub was specifically designated the less serious subClearly you werent around back then or somehow didnt notice what was going on I would say that its actually your comments that are bs|1 Maybe I cant ignore the signs though Its spreading and overwhelming health services in other countries Italy do not have the resources to cope and are no longer treating the elderly Spain are announcing that they are running out of equipment Cases are spiking Ive a friend who is head doctor at a London AE They are making massive preparations and they are very worried by what they have seenWe havent taken any major measures yet I have to hold myself to be openminded and accountable enough to question why we would be immune and just hope that this will blow over|1 Damn so if true CFR could be higher and R0 lower|0 Maybe the number of new cases seems to be leveling about 2300 the day before yesterday 2600 yesterday and 2500 today Maybe quarantine is kicking in|1 Your baby will be fine This virus kills adults and elderly not the young The young carry and spread it but it is extraordinarily unlikely your baby will need hospital attention even if they do get it|0 not even the virus wants anything to do with your damn spiders and crocodiles D|0 The vast majority of viruses causing respiratory illness including every other know Coronavirus are not heat resistant and thus transmits much less in warm weather I dont think we yet have detailed information specific to this virus|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The slower the disease spreads the more time there is for vaccines and other treatments to be developed so even if containment is ultimately impossible and it may not be its still worth trying for as long as possible The more effort each individual makes the more other people have a chanceSo the best treatments probably havent been developed yet|1 Going to be 3400 in the US Cus Freedom|1 Nice Thank you|1 You a person on reddit just changed your opinion when presented with a counter argument You even did your own research You are the single most impressive person Ive ever talked to on this site Wow thank you What a breath of fresh air|1 We should make a monument for every doctor working in these conditions They are knowingly risking their lives to help others|1 How many tests has France done so far Is there a site where this number is listed amongst the number of infected dead etc Austria provides this site for example httpswwwsozialministeriumatInformationenzumCoronavirusNeuartigesCoronavirus2019nCovhtmlhttpswwwsozialministeriumatInformationenzumCoronavirusNeuartigesCoronavirus2019nCovhtml|0 It doesnt Those rich people wont be on the streets possibly infecting poor people Less contact everyone has the better|0 In the lab yes|1 Climate activists should be proud that the corona virus has done more in a short period of time about cutting emissions than they have over the past several years|1 Seems like employers are so short sighted Think about how low productivity is going to be if the majority of your workforce is down with this|1 Except cremation is normal and standard in China Same as Japan and many other places To me its weird that you embalm and bury people in the west|0 Oh okay then lets open up the borders No need for screening its already everywhere Move along citizens nothing to see here|0 Yes unfortunatelly China seems to have been hit with multiple disasters at once Yesterday they noticed swarms of locusts at thier borders too so thier crop is likely to suffer too|0 Ditto on the low key obsessed I also stocked up well before people went crazy I have gotten to the point over the past few years of not taking on the battle of misinformation for my Fox News viewing family but this is different This is their safety and health I said several weeks ago all it will take are a few of their viewers getting ill or losing someone close to them and they will take care of the Fox news problem|0 But the virus spreads exponentially and has a high infection rate so its more likely that all these areas that are having cases will become very infected meaning the resources will be even more stretched Its not like in China where they could pull a ton of resources and medical staff from other parts of the country to help in the smaller infected areas It will just be chaos everywhereI might agree with you if the government was doing ANYTHING to prevent the spread of the disease but as people are just going about as usual spreading this thing all across the country we are likely to be MORE fucked than Italy if anything with ALL these regions seeing massive spikes of critical cases|0 Lol more red states receive government assistance then blue states Look it up|1 I was about to ask this I know US prices are ridiculously inflated Unfortunately after having a look we pay less than the US by a fair chunk but its still a very expensive drug|0 I dont really understand the reasons for it to go wrongResearchers dont know either There are plenty of research suggesting X Y or Z drug probably wont do anything but in some cases the drugs just Suddenly screw up everythinghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBIA102474To expand on upcpcys answer the first test is generally one to investigate safety and dosing You usually dont care about the drugs actual intended effect but you just keep changing dose in increasing doses to find out when people might experience side effects Then when youve found out in what kind of area it becomes toxic to some capacity you change phase and investigate doses within that range which are the most effective Then you move on to check for how well the treatment of the drug would workAll these are just incredibly standardized as you say but that doesnt make them fast Having to include 40 people with varying and increasing doses to then include a few hundred to check for effectiveness to then once again try it in a larger pouplation of hundreds to thousands is all very timeconsuming because each phase has to wait for the other one to be welldocumented And theres only so many certified researchers allowed to do the documentationLike in the link I sent to you the guy got his dose and came in ill after five days Should you had tested that guy first and then the others after in sequence Thatd be 10 days for each person for 128 people Or you could give them all an increasing dose and let it take 10 days But then youd maybe had ended up with many more brain dead peopleAlso this is just the clinical trial itself It does not involve the decisionmaking and approvals of each phase and staff memberA utilitarian would probably argue some clinical trials are destined to be sped up a lot more depending on importance and estimated safety but medical ethics has just decided to err on the side of very high caution and thats how it works today|1 I will say that Beijing was one of the safest cities Ive ever lived in|1 Its almost like the President announced a travel ban spooking everyone and then funneled all international inbound flights to a small subset of airportsBrilliant strategy|0 You CAN have mild pneumonia though called walking pneumonia but mostly pneumonia is serious businessI had pneumonia for about 2 months without realizing it I had a terrible cough that just got worse and I guess a low grade consistent feverI finally went to the doctor for severe shoulder pain only for them to ask me if Id been coughing a lot causing neckshoulder tension I said yes and they checked my lungs and were like yep take this antibiotics and luckily it went away quickly then|0 Fauci was the only person not talking out his ass|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I cant believe I am saying this but this is like preparing for a war This time it is against an invisible enemy|0 I Get you but only really the garden will be useful in this case|1 Were all on the same planet except for Trump We dont know what planet hes on If the chinese send supplies to the US theyll have to pay tariffs|0 All that is left is to suspend music concerts|0 I agree Regardless of my political affiliation I wouldnt wish death on anyone Stay safe|1 30 year old severely ill That is against all the talking points|0 I get what youre saying but the difference is Italian New Year hasnt just happened and every Italian hasnt gone back home to celebrate Plus theyre aware of the virus now|1 Well if I wasnt a little freaked out before I am now|1 No keep it up We dont need anymore dumbasses on this earth|0 At the time there was widespread suspicion that SARS cases and deaths in China were hugely under reported so keep that in mind when doing comparisons|0 I seriously dont believe that closing schools will reduce the total infection Were not China people arent going to stay locked down Its guaranteeing suffering for children and families in the hope that it delays the spread of the virus for a few days Its a know tragedy for a rather specious hope of averting another Also if the whole city gets it which it probably will with or without school closures were looking at about 80000 deaths Horrible but less than 100000|0 You are naive if you think this is business as usualWhere did I say that The CCP only tells the world what they think they can get away with telling the world And no one believes them anyway|0 No they didnt|0 About to go get infected|0 Im also from Milan and have family very close to the quarantined area and things seem to be under control This might change for the worse in the future but for now the OP is just fear mongering for some sassy karma|0 How does one perform a coronavirus test I know the kits are supposedly common reagents that while maybe not easy to get ahold of would be possible Do you know what is in them and the process for testing a sample|0 1 It doesnt hurt anything Your hardware is designed to run 2473652 A fair bit Depends on where you are and what hardware you have Some folks estimate around 30 monthly But if its still cold where you are and you normally use electric heat then the power used by your GPU is free3 Not if performance is important to you no|1 And once again I truly dont understand how apparently every other country is able to test for this quicklyMerica Jesus|1 Lost my job|0 Quarantine at home is your best optionIm from Italy they are running 14K tests a day here but still only to people with exposurecontact to others infected travel or that are very sick Same in Europe Its mitigation time They cant run a test for everybody Best option is to just stay home and wait it out|0 ok thats interesting i had mono 20 years ago and now i cant take prednisoneit messes me up so bad i get every major side effect and end up feeling worse than the ailment i went in for usually takes a month for my body to go back so i keep telling them im just allergic now so they will stop prescribing it|0 Thank you for the long comment In fact I am Chinesequite hard for me to readT T Ive been through this disaster and now its getting serious other countriesI am concern about it so I try to browse foreign websites for newsI know the economic competition between countriesBut this is emergency all of humanity needs to deal withAfter all English is not my native languageSorry if there are word or grammatical errors|0 Thanks Same to you|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The guy who China tortured for reporting on the Virus is maybe not a great example of the Virus killing people|0 Their shot is now ready for animal testing followed by human trials Entering trials is not proof of a working vaccine Sars and Mers have had trial run for years with absolutely zero vaccine to show for it|1 I beg to differ my friend There are dickheads everywhere|1 The young male and woman in her 50s were the first 2 confirmed in Washingtonx200BThe Male in his 50s who died was one of 3 new casesx200BThe other two are a woman in her 40s who worked at a nursing home and a woman in her 70s who is a resident therex200BThere are 27 residents and 25 staff who are showing symptoms and are being tested now|0 At some point Its going to be a shitshow Those who cooperate will have a better chance of making it through it Well see how much selfpreservation plays into itUnfortunately this may not be possible due to the wage slave position that most of the country is in Which is more dangerous starving and waiting for eviction to find yourself broke and in the streets or going to work and hoping that you get lucky enough to not get infectedThis is going to be a massive problem|0 Start Hot toddies turmeric milk etcAt least to protect against other viruses meanwhile|1 Interesting account history Two year old account One comment five months ago defending the CCP then three weeks ago comments almost exclusively in this sub start showing up|1 Outstanding move|1 Im starting to get less worried I think the death rate is wayyyyyyy below 1 and we think its just high cause of lack of testing|0 That is great example of LEADERSHIPYou must not be from Austin I think its the right decision but Im not used to Austin city management doing logical things|1 Youre very welcome|1 How would that work Curious|1 Yes this|1 They already have this with other thingsUK supplies many exclusive vaccines for USA|1 Yeah but there are some exceptions to that rule of synergy Its admittedly a loose theory but you never know Somehow though I have the purely gut feeling that the flu coronavirus combined are not acclimated to each other synergistically and that the two combined may at least not be any worse than the coronavirus alone If so then possibly they will fight it outMy other loose theory is that ingested capsaicin the active heat compound found in hot chili peppers will neutralize COVID19 in the gut based on an asyet undetermined chemical synthesis taking place in the gut The human gut is a chemistry lab in its own right like no other and the scope of chemical processes occurring therein including being representative of and synergistic to other unique chemical functions attributed to the brain are still FAR from being fully understoodSo why not Ive always eaten a lot of hot peppers anyway just because I enjoy them but there are a lot of seemingly profound health benefits found with ingesting capsaicin that again are not well understood And the least of which may be that capsaicin does have proven antimicrobial properties Otherwise regular ingestion of capsaicin appears to strengthen the immune system contributes to both a healthier digestive vascular system as well to be a presumed curative for different forms of cancerThere are published NIHGOV clinical trial studies using capsaicin in the treatment of skin cancer specifically that you can find online Those studies showed definite promise The thing I believe to be true though is that EVEN IF capsaicin can or would cure all sorts of different diseases then you can bet that cancer doctors drug companies alike will NOT be receptive of the idea because if true then it would threaten their business model of selling radiation treatment chemotherapy and all manner of ridiculously expensive drugsEven if proven beyond a reasonable doubt that capsaicin can or would cure all sorts of different maladies possibly even COVID19 then you WILL NOT see the CDC the NIH or WHO advertising any of that information They wont do it I promiseBut in addition to my typical daily diet of eating hot peppers I also bought several bottles of cayenne pepper capsules through Amazon and am eating one a day of those for an added 20000 Heat Units on the Scoville Scale The benefit to the capsules is that the capsaicin bypasses the taste buds and goes straight to the gutI personally like the burning sensation in my mouth as well as other physiological effects produced from eating hot peppers such as with producing a cold sweat on the forehead neck scalp They have also always tended to give me a runny nose which just means I usually have to blow my nose after eating a handful of Jalapenos or other hot peppers I dont especially care for the anal effects of capsaicin when taking a poop which causes a mild burning sensation but Im used to the effectI dont recommend overdoing it with ingesting too much capsaicin at all You can sure overdo it Dont use products like Mad Dog 357 hot sauce which is 357000 Heat Units on the Scoville Scale There are also products around boasting 6 to 9 million Heat Units Stay away from those Pure capsaicin is at 16 million Heat Units and 9 million isnt far behind the purest form These products are manufactured from boileddown concentrations of among the hottest pepper varieties in the world such as the Carolina Reaper Ghost Pepper varietiesI will use some of these ultrafiery peppers very sparingly in slowcooker recipes like chili con carne but I never eat the stuff straight When it comes to eating straight hot peppers I stick mostly to Jalapenos and the Mezzetta brand of hot chili pepper which is a hybrid variety produced grown exclusively by the Mezzetta family I also eat wax peppersMaybe capsaicin will prevent andor cure coronavirus I dont know It occurs to me it might work But right now anyway there is not only no proof to say Im wrong but there are also NO BETTER suggestions going around as you know other than to wash your hands and wear a face maskI eat a LOT of capsaicin and rarely get sick even being around sick people I go for years at a stretch without getting sick at all and even when I do I never get sick enough to become bedridden I also dont get flu shots and never had my tonsils removed|1 I tried to tell my relatives a shit storm is coming yesterday and they all assured me it was no big deal Seriously|0 But do we have meaningful differentiation in COVID out there to create that effect at this point IThis I do not know I wasnt familiar with that technical detail|1 Thank good for Reddit Twitter maybe|1 Germany did over 35000 tests over the last week not including clinics Clinics do 100 Testsday and we got 2000 clinics in GermanyFor all the faults the federalism has like being very beurocartic and one of the reasons the start to react was so so slow and in some places still is the fact that each city can individually say fuck it were gonna do this and doesnt have to get an ok from upper places sometiems helps|0 Even worse the lack of foodsupplies on shelves today is due to panic buying by people who didnt prepare The vast majority of people who prepared had no impact on the supply chain The only thing that was hard to get a month ago was masks|0 People who are infected by those who have this kind of careless attitude should be allowed to sue them for damages with a mandatory prison sentence for breaking quarantine and endangering others without a valid reason|0 Spring Break Declared Over might be one of the saddest firstworld headlines|0 It reminds me of slaughter house number 5 when he gets abducted by aliens|0 Supplies to hospitals Im an ER doctor in a large city ED Three more boxes of N95 masks and thatll be it We write our name on this one time use piece of equipment and reuse it until it breaks Overheard a nurse manager asking nurses to start looking up YouTube videos on how to make masks A friends hospital in a neighboring state is giving staff bandanas and rubber bands unless theyre performing an aerosol generating procedure intubating suctioning This is all before it even gets bad To be fair I do have a friend at an urgent care that has much better supply but they still have less than a months worth Also ventilators we nearly reach our ventilator capacity during a flu season there exists a backup But theyre rented from a pool to share with other hospitals If it does get to the point of where I think its heading the only backup plan I can think of is hooking two people to one vent and then when that runs out we could have people bagging their relatives Scary shit that has been keeping me up at night for the past two weeks|0 So does this mean he wont visit europe like he wouldnt visit Denmark cause of the Greenland not for sale thing Cause that could be a blessing|1 You know whats stupid about not shutting down post sec A lot of these students have kids in elementary school who will need to bring their kids to classes with them thus defeating the entire purpose of the shutdown|0 De he forget this is America Companies dont care aboit workers|0 These kids dont get the economy and stock market is the exchange of goods and services tangibles Its vital for the continuation of life and survival Economy crashes and you lose your job you could lose shelter for your children and family Its your ability to survive So yeah the stock market and economy fucking matters just as much as Corona infection|1 Just read an article about a teacher in Nevada She was showing blatantly obvious symptoms but they refused her testing because she hadnt traveled to a hot zone They also didnt test her because they only had a few cases in the state so far|0 Is takeout safe though Feel like it isnt|1 Well you got the last part right at least it does make more sense to stay away from crowds Tell that to the elderly person commuting on a subway in NYC because they can not afford to stay home Just let that cough with droplets hit you right in the face no worries mate masks are of no use right on with the narrative OBEY|0 This is by far the most messed up thing I have seen in a while we are toast|0 This is so spot on I dont know whether to cry or laugh|1 San Diego had an electronic music festival today Crazy stupid|0 Yeah its probably gonna be below 1 but equally these people dying now would probably have caught it 2 weeks ago or so|1 He has to be lying No way he ACTUALLY did this|0 Good it means you werent taking taxis or riding the bus You were in the fresh air and are probably healthier than most of the people ending up very sick|1 Oh shit really|0 Potentially killingtaking healthcare workers out of the fight because some fat nosed fuck thinks not being a mouth breather is more important than others lives|0 In the end what needs to happen is around 70 of people need to become immune so the virus dies out due to herd immunityCan we really become immune to this though I keep reading about cases of possible reinfection and the 2nd round could be much worse|1 Heres an article from 2018 that discusses the fever mechanism in the body and sites the research paper sources httpswwwmedicalnewstodaycomarticles321889httpswwwmedicalnewstodaycomarticles321889 TLDR The fever is part of an immune response and seems to trigger certain things to happen as part of the bodys immune system fighting viruses or bacteria|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Just dont do it Why Not worth the risk She could get it and be walking around for 14 days infecting people and risking her own life and both of your familys Sitting in a plane for hours with potentially sick people and recirculating air No|0 Honestly The attitude is pervasive though Oh its only killing people with preexisting conditionsold people ok and Thats still a person Thats someones brother sister mother father daughter son friend Someone is still grieving a loved one lost I think maybe people are so disconnected here because were getting numbers But each of those numbers has a name its very sad|0 The legislative branch is ponderous by design Decisive action is the responsibility of the executive branch Trump from the beginning and to this very day has downplayed the threat from a desire to prop up the the markets a healthy economy is what he his election campaign is based on He could have called for swift action and prevented countless deaths By the end of this Trump will be awash in the blood of those who died directly as a result of his selfishness|0 People are so quick to blame situations like this on a broken system Im sorry but this is the way the real world is If you need overtime to make rent then youre clearly living above your means Find a roommate A cheaper place to live maybe Cant rely on the government to take care of you Take some personal responsibility and stop playing the victim of the system|1 This may actually be a good thing from my laypersons level of knowledge on this thing If it has been circulating for that long and we arent seeing a spike in deaths that could mean its morbidity rate is lower than we originally thought That said we could have been listing deaths from flu pneumonia and not attributing them properly|0 Yea I can imagine from the outside it seems like things are deteriorating especially because outbreaks are just starting in other countries However despite the overall economy taking a hit from here things are slowly and very gradually getting back to normal and functioning again Restaurants and businesses are starting to reopen so Ive never thought that delivery would stop in fact I only expect it to get back to normal at some point delivering to our doors again at normal service hours|1 Yeah Perfect And it only took six weeks probably thousands infected almost 0 coronavirus testing schools closed Bill Gates giving press conferences on this perhaps being the 100 year pandemic postal workers infected and folks dying for the WSDoH to get out in front|1 I got tons of coffee and even got a hand grinder and french press if we lose utilities|1 Might be a dumb question but why would a county judge know the ages of people in the hospital Thats who she tagged as her source|0 I guess I didnt look hard enough Im browsing reddit a few minutes after waking up lol It is funny to say dont worry |1 Nice work OP|1 Why use hydrogen peroxide and not ipa or lysolEdit another sub full of assholes that dont allow questions Thanks for the downvotes Ill just remain ignorant and never admit if I dont know something|0 Honestly the number of times Ive been burned by urgent care I see why people dont go to doctors Am in WV I paid 175 last time for them to tell me they think I have scarlet fever I didnt have scarlet fever|1 No need to worry guys its just a flu|0 Count the bodies multiply by 100average mortality rate at the end Its gonna be a big number|1 Yeah Im leaving early next week to bunker down with my grandma we both have lung issues so wed both rather not catch this thing until some sort of treatment is developed and unlike the rest of my family she can conceivably stay inside her house for a long while due to being retired|1 Totally agree|1 To a virus like corona soap and water is like getting electrocuted poisoned and then napalmed|1 Where is it proven to workExtreme social distancing across the entire population is the only thing that is proven to workSchool closures would only be risk free if every work place closes too|1 now it seems that 4 of them are cancelled one renamed today to something like Cancelled due to lack of clinical trials proving effectIt actually says verbatim Cancelled due to lack of patient Clinical study for the effect andI dont understand that either but it sounds like they just couldnt get enough patients Most of these trials were going to go on 6 months so it seems far too early to cancel for lack of effect even if it really doesnt workAlso this trial is for hydroxychloroquine not chloroquine phosphate Hydroxychloroquine is slower acting and assumed to be not as effective|0 Chinese fashion trends were always questionable|0 Thank you This whole hysteria is crazyI talked with a coworker about the people in our town going bonkers about corona Like another coworker told us like 3 times how long this evil virus can stay on surfaces The people in the bus looked at us like we were some public enemies and an old lady near us even hid her face in her scarf|0 I know Im not the guy you replied to but his reply was to me I hope it doesnt sound like Im saying JIT is bad I am studying supply and logistics management and understand why its so beneficial It can present some difficulties in a hospital setting though especially if its implemented poorly|0 God the uk government is so fucking incompetent its incredible|0 You need a magnifying glass to see the window of opportunity now|1 I think most western world people gets their share of Influenza every year|1 To be expected There will always be uninformed andor antiscience people in every country Though as a European country they should be educated enough to trust the experts on this not political pundits or social media nonsense|1 What are the numbers in Mexico right now My parents are planning to get outta my city next week if they can while theyre healthy|1 This is the true potential Mutating and your immune system already being compromised Sick F|1 There are cultural factors that helped Corona to spread easily in some countries In Italy kissing the cheeks of EVERYBODY its normal In fact you are rude if you try to avoid it Same in Argentina that had lots of italian immigration around 80 years ago ArgentiniansItalians we like to kiss hug stay close to each other AND catholicism its our most popular religion Guess what We kiss each other at the end of every sunday service Im sure this is a huge fact|1 He definitely wasnt recovered the same stuff has happened in Iran|1 My company has sick leave too but they are greedy and will offer to pay you for them at end of year if unused Many people will be greedy as oppose to considerate|0 This paper from The LancethttpswwwthelancetcomactionshowPdfpiiS01406736282029305663 is a first insight into risk factors for nonsurvivors vs survivorsUnsurprisingly the only condition that is 100 in the nonsurvivors is sepsis And IL6 which is a major proinflammatory cytokine is almost 2X higher in nonsurvivors compared to survivors IL6 is also a risk factor for sepsis during CART therapy so much that anti IL6 therapies are given to somewhat dampen the immune response since as the other comment says an overactive immune system often times is worse than the infection itself|0 Google Wuhan death rate|0 Well I told you so we didnt even need the three months|1 It wasnt a rebellion or revolution it was a fullscale civil war that lasted 4 years Chiang KaiShek fled to Taiwan because they had been beaten militarily and lost control of the mainland to the communists The communists didnt have the ability for a large scale naval invasion and Chiang and the Nationalists were too weak to do anything apart from hold on to what they have left This stalemate has lasted for 70 yearsTaiwans official name is the Republic of China because they see themselves as the government of all of China at least they did Over time this is starting to change|0 Same lmao|1 Happy cake day|1 Cant imagine life back then How did people feel what did they think Short lifespans plagued with illnesses hunger poverty and hopelessness It must have been hell|0 With Corona virus spreading throughout the world the cases and death are bound to rise Listened to WHO press conference yesterday and got disappointed when they said out of 6 billion population only 4000 or so have been infected I mean China had done a great job but this is a just the start of the epidemic outside of China Now that the virus is reaching other parts where the same kind of resources and measures arent possible at all it has the potential of being a huge public health problem We should panic Definitely not but should we be worried hell yes|0 Hi I am a bartender and Im concerned about handling money and also about disinfecting glassware Should I be wearing latex gloves during my shift while handling money Also how should I be sterilizing my glassware to kill off the virus|0 Okay What does the hotel collapsing have to do with anything|0 Huh What does your comment have to do with anythingAnd I do share my money actually a rather large chunk via taxes|1 Hypochondria setting in If you get sick youll know|0 Thats problaby why it was tainted they dont know how to make it lol|1 School closures are a risky move as parents will turn to grandparents to look after children Thus possibily exposing older citizens to higher risk|0 Its really not that serious|1 Man with illness gets sicker This is news now|0 They dont have the greatest track record currently of giving a single shit andor accurate infoFeel free to rely on them not many others are|0 Riots chaos Mass storming of stores Lots of crime Gunfire Gridlock Or maybe people will choose to behave in a civilized way thinking of others and the greater good LOL We will probably end up suspending stock market trading and will enter a severe recession if not a 1930s style depression|0 Agreed In the past I mostly liked Trudeaus decisions more than Fords but I feel Ontario is moving faster than the Federal government|1 SURPRISE|1 Yes I believe so|1 China literally had their military wielding idiots in their houses I doubt any Western country can do that before its too fucking late So expect much worse|0 Good point|1 I wish people would take the advice of scientists and healthcare providers more seriously This idea of thinking you know better than the people who devote their life to this is beyond me|1 LOTS of people with serious gaming crypto rigs have been coming out of the woodwork Lots of servers with 32 64 cores too|0 Heck yes Anything is better than nothing They cant have someone bag for 247 It makes my heart warm to see people wanting to help so much|1 Are you serious Even Fox News is taking it seriously Hell the president called it an national emergency I dont know man |0 This is some truly next level wordplay here|1 Yep Btw my theory on the TP grabbing has to do with at least 3 things 1 many have gotten diarrhea which means youll be needing it and many of us have been watching and listening to the countries before us Japan ran out of TP Maybe because its mostly an imported good I have heard mixed things but we do get some of our TP abroad China 2 if you are quarantined at home youre using more TP in a given day then when you were gone 911 hrs a day workingcommuting 3 people figured out it will become a hot commodity like hand sanitizer and bought more to sell to others later Apparently TP is going for like 10 a toll on OfferUp Craigslist Solution if youre out Go to Home Depot and get one of those hose attachments that parents who use reusable cloth diapers to clean off and put on the side of their toilets Not fun but at least a cheap alternative|1 Nah Communism is more then alive and well in China To say otherwise betrays a very limited undrstanding of how the party operates httpssinocismcompengineersofthesoulideologyin|1 Financial services firms will often offer escalating privileges to clients as they deposit more funds Typically these are pretty darn useless and are mostly about ego massage and the illusion of superior judgment and info market briefs etc|1 Heroes are heroic for making a brave choice Retail and service industry employees have no choice The sentiment is wonderful but respect the fact that these employees are victims of our system not heroes None of us want to be there but will be fired and potentially homeless if we dont work We want to be home safe too|1 You know I dont wish this sickness on anyone but I wont feel bad for people who get sick and think in this mindset is acceptable That this is all a political plot to get Trump out of office Fuck me this shit will spread the virus even further|0 When you go bankrupt you can recoverHow many people died as a result of the Wall St crashHow many people died during the Great DepressionHow many people died as a result of the subprime lending crisis|0 Okay What do you want to be reminded about|1 lots of 50 Cent Party here|1 Almost as if there were some agent dissolving the bonds that once bound us What could that be What element could be so divisive as to make Americans or any neighbors once again loath each other Then again crises still can bring out the best in people If only that would stick|1 So hopefully no cytokine storm from this then|1 Ok yeah that could be a clue But right now everyone is on edge|1 Theyre providing free access to corona related links need email and password|1 The alternative is open borders and opening up our hospitals as an all you can eat buffet to the world what am I missing here I would love someone to be way better on this issue than Trump he has been miserable but the alternative is idiotic if dress it up nice and sabotage if you look at it honestly|0 Fuck us teachers right|0 Its ok You can imagine the tone of the DoH lady taking the message|1 Thats really wellworded and of course you are absolutely right I am going to take that to heart and make a concerted effort to change my mindset and put joy into my days There is still beauty in the world|1 Redding is cheap YubaSutter also Both not anywhere near as populated as somewhere like Fresno And there are job opportunities or at least there were|1 Completely different problems Education of people from muslim countries is often no more than 10 of the times but thats too much incompatible with western culture Asylum almost always transforms into permanent stay Why should i compare it to me trying to not go out and infect people|0 The majority of people in this subreddit would be smart to follow that advice|1 Yeah no worries You should really listen to the first hour of the podcast where hes on the call|0 I completely agree with you Were all in this together I dont care what your party is you are a fellow human being we need to keep our shit together and stay focused|1 It went from its not as bad as the flu to a new narrative that its not that bad its the government trying to enact some type of fear mongering control over the population Their brains refuse to allow them to understand the severity|0 These people are idiots they are buying perishables and fucking shitwipes Filling carts full of Mac and Cheese and Ramen but anything that can actually sustain you for long periods indoors isnt being purchased at all Oh and of course 2 gallons of milk 2 or skim of course a that way its basically just water that will spoil in a week some kids cereal like Fruity pebbles and some rice Of course they think everyone else is crazy just not them meanwhile they have a buggy full of useless shit You people are not prepping for an emergency you are just trying to keep other people from buying the junk food|0 Im on Oahu too I think we all know there must be cases here I think they are terrified to test get a positive and have people start cancelling trips No proof just my guess|0 Having the lowest deaths infected ratio out of all countries is still remarkable though But as much as I hate to admit it youre right|0 Lol Im Chinese and I live in China Ignorance is bliss You should check the above bullet points and apply them internally Anyways not here to argue You continue forwarding Chinese State spun media as fact Carry on|1 Good|1 From my understanding children get mild symptoms that are similar to the flu or pneumonia They might not die from it but it can be absolutely miserable I remember a time when people heard someone had the flu or pneumonia and said oh no thats awful Its such a horrible thing to come down with Now its just meh its just like having the flu|0 and yet overall funding for the CDC has increased each year during Trumps term|1 My favourite part Mass gatherings are banned as of Monday After my churchs annual party|0 I think theyre using that phrase to point out that the people who are most at risk are those who are already ill Its just the reality that people who are sick even if they are mobile are always more at risk of other diseases|0 ikrBernies dick is bigger than trumps 30k upvotes 25 awards|0 Seriously does the virus act like meth|1 Its still a tight labor market right now at least for shitty jobs But yeah I expect that may change and Ive heard all the gig economy stuff like Uber is dead tooIts rough bud One thing I have learned from the last go around is that your bigger clients will worry about you if there is a recession They want you to survive they love paying you and they depend on you So you might have luck going to them and asking for bigger projects or an advanceretainer I wish I had understood that dynamic last time I was young and its not obviousYou doing contract dev work building small business websites or what I might have more advice depending if you want it We all need to stick together right now|1 Oh Im sorry that Im mad that some dummy wants feel to smart and lecture me on economic theory because of a dumb jokeCan I have healthcare now please This growth on my arm isnt getting any smaller and its getting hard to keep hiding it from my family|0 If this turns out to be a bio weapon its likely from a foreign source thats framing the Biolweapon lab in Wuhan May be a cooperation among a couple of different sources possible CIAMossad with global hegemony and regional hegemony issues like Iran being major reasons China is getting attacked by a few different bioweapons They lost half their pig populations last year to a disease Now theyre losing chicken and other livestock populations from avian flu Of course we also have the human flu thats killing people and shutting down citiesThis may explain the nonchalant attitude in some countries about this disease|0 I reported eBay to my state AG hopefully this will accomplish something|1 And the unspoken natural fact underlying it ants eat grasshoppers|1 Im not a doctor However Ive found that bromelain or pineapple extract beats the crap out of my congestion|0 Id rather have false positives honestly|1 Youre right frontline providers never will but the government certainly can indirectly You cant entirely hide a pandemic but you absolutely can fudge the numbers in your favor No one on Twitter has the ability to canvas hospitals nationally to find out how many positive test cases theyre getting per day an open society cant determine the difference between 100000 or 300000 infections when theyre spread across the countryWhich leads to false senses of safety from those at risk precautions not taken that would have been otherwise and needless death You should know this better than most|1 I was very concerned when I was running out of breath too I can handle a cold but not being able to breath well is not normal Thats why I went to the doctor if I had pneumonia I wanted to get on antibiotics to help kick it I hope you feel better|1 He died off|0 Markets arent ignoring this My girlfriend works in Korean Duty Free trade which relies heavily on Chinese suppliers and customers She says DF sales have dropped by 90 the past two weeks There are definitely economic ramifications for the outbreak|1 Really surprised at how lax the Japanese are about this Having lived there I know about needing a million stamps and signatures on paperwork that looks last updated in the 1930s to get anything done hence things move slowly but I really cant believe theyre just letting the biohazards walk straight towards the masses using public transport Cant help but feel this is the beginning of another 14 day show with horrific results just like the boat quarantine played out|0 And then if they even managed to drive around Rice Village they would have to find a parking spot So youre ok|1 And anyone who agrees with them cant be trusted either You people can never be satisfied even if you saw what was happening in China with your own eyes you wouldnt believe positive news coming out of China You are blinded by your own hatred|0 That is a large number of the UK then|1 The first epidemiological study from Wuhan showed a relatively high amount of younger adults ending up in the ICU It was not as bad as the 65 age group but reminds me of the W curve seen with Spanish fluhttpsmarlinprodliteratumonlinecomcmsattachment546071dc76244b68b52f99c39a531962gr1jpghttpsmarlinprodliteratumonlinecomcmsattachment546071dc76244b68b52f99c39a531962gr1jpgSpanish fluhttpsuploadwikimediaorgwikipediacommons770Wcurvepnghttpsuploadwikimediaorgwikipediacommons770WcurvepngDiseases with cytokine storms typically show this type of behavior which SARSCov2 is known to cause as well as permanent or disabling longterm organ damage after survival Theres moreorless a sweet spot where an individuals immune system is neither strong nor weak allowing them to survive both the virus and their own immune systems reactionEdit Do you have a link to that largescale study Im assuming there is something fundamentally wrong with it as early complete epidemiological studies are saying the 2549 age group gets hit pretty hard|0 God this is just horrible Everything is broken Greatest country in the world my ass It doesnt even crack the top 50 Im not religious but Ill be doing my own version of praying for you man|1 Will we accept them and use them Genuinely asking|1 Yea testing is stupid lets just put our heads in the sand and vote for trump Too many fucking morons on earth for us to have a good life unfortunately|0 Which countries have successfully contained the virus|1 Exactly We are on lockdown and Im wondering if outdoor playground equipment for my toddler is safe if its been in the Sun for a while|1 Its like the ICU bed problem but for our bodies Our bodies dont have infinite resources to fight infections so the less exposure we get the fewer resources well have to waste fighting unnecessary infections Corona can win by attrition Our immune systems Not so much|1 Wow this just really goes to show how easily this thing can spread|1 Micronesia has done the best job of all nations so far They took it seriously from the start So far they are one of the more rare uninfected nations|1 Preferably someone on Fox to really wake up that half of the country Tucker had a good piece the other day hopefully hes getting ready to unload|1 I see it now lol|1 Thank you for taking the time out to post this The feelings of distress and fear are mutual Wish you good luck|1 Nope doesnt work that way The point is a lot of people wont die|1 The best time to start a positive change was a long time ago But the second best time is right now|1 On Friday the UK governments chief science adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said on BBC Radio 4 that one of the key things we need to do is to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmissionBut on Sunday Matt Hancock the UK secretary of state for health and social care stressed that achieving herd immunity to Covid19 is not a stated policy|1 We need to make sure every nba player gets multiple tests stat|1 Live in SC and can confirm People havent been taking it seriously and only altered their behavior when forced by the governor through the closure of bars and restaurants Just last night a bar near my apartment had a huge St Patricks day party and defiantly live streamed on Facebook while deleting any negative comments that came in Infuriating unconscionable and going to cost lives Video from just last night httpswwwfacebookcomhubcitydelaneysvideos200816364595010|0 I had to go to Best Buy to make the home office work They were cleaning a LOT And maintaining distance from each other if not the customers|1 Im sure all the doctors agree with you Lets get a cage match together and the last one standing gets to say what to order Multiple MRI machines in every building|1 I have all of those right now and Im sure as shit not coming down with the coronaThere is a thin line between concern and paranoia But fear is understandable though|0 Well they went with the Sars vaccine and it wasnt safe and may have contributed to the severity of cases in some instances Im not sure human safety will be a major factor for them|0 Ha I promise you we paid and are still paying a ton of billsIm sure you are but trust me youre not paying the full cost Were do you think everyones 1000mo premiums goAverage cost for cancer drugs are 150000yr Operations to remove a tumor can be anywhere from 100000 to upward of a millionCompare that the 12k you and your company split for premiums last year and your ACA mandated maximum out of pocket of 8150Thats about 20k at most you paid out of pocket last year for your cancer assuming your company doesnt pay any part of your premium That leaves 130000k your coworkers paid if you just needed chemotherapy and drugsDoesnt mean i am read to accept some gov controlled healthcare because right now I cant even get a damn test if i needed itOddly enough in every other country with single payer testing isnt a problem Maybe its private healthcare industry thats causing a testing problem|1 Oh God just imagine what the husband is going through Found out his wife had coronavirus and an affair with another person through news Im guessing then was put in quarantine with his wife|1 Thanks for being so kind Greetings from Luxembourg|1 512 infected Two critically hospitalized|0 Dont worry They will all get their new symptoms from Corona|1 I think the only reason the latter is getting traction is because apparently the admin refused testing kits from other countries in favor of american made tests Which some people think was some GOPers trying to give the testing monopoly to some of their pharma buddies Its plausible but who knows|1 When I consider the adjuncts available to me today in terms of management of respiratory patients compared to two decades ago I think its a night and day difference In addition to mechanical ventilation we also need to consider noninvasive positive pressure ventilation supports and we should probably include high flow nasal cannula HFNC in terms of adjuncts which will be used in the management of respiratory patientsBut these tools are just one piece of the patient care puzzle With increased focus on pulmonary toiletry fiber optic bronchoscopy mucuscontrolling agents and kinetic therapy we have more options to help healthcare providers reduce mortality and length of stay in the hospitalI think we shouldnt be overlooking all of the tremendous advances weve made in the last two decades in terms of management of critical ill patients Not only from the respiratory standpoint but from the systemic and systems standpoint|1 Haha|1 Rivers like the Red River are brown because of sediment Rivers in the mountains are bluegreen because of the minerals suspended in them|0 My problem is that this model is an old model Iran and China have been lying about their death rate and even with those lies the death rate is at 7 7 of 214 is 14 million people|0 Hasnt been used since the 19th century Great idea that served as a path to the development of vaccinations Its all about vaccination now which involves a different method ex oral or IM injection and attenuated weakened or dead viruses|0 All this talk of fucking has my blood flowing to the wrong head|0 I just read an article that Airbnb is giving full refunds in certain areas Not sure if that pertains to you thoughhttpstechcrunchcom20200313airbnbextendsnochargecancellationpolicyduetocoronavirus|1 edited 11 hours ago Man you are cruel But yes China has collected many cured patients blood who are younger and using these blood to cure other patients It works quite wellread some chinese news |0 so far the statements of the second speaker seem designed mainly to credit trump and insulate him from criticisms of inaction im saddened at how focused this conference is on praising our politicians and corporations and how little important information is breaking through the wash of selfserving noisealso denigrating other countries putting down south korea what a travestythe center stage for google is bizarre|1 At this point they should save everyone a lot of time and put them all in one room with sleeping bags and get it over with|1 Yea Im 36 with a lifelong history of asthma My employer thinks its prudent to keep thousands of employees in a centralized location even though we have the capability of working remote I know your fear and your pain|0 I bet you have accomplished some extraordinary things in your life with this attitude a real beneficial member of society we are so lucky that you exist Seriously though imagine if you spent all your energy that right now goes into searching for reasons to do nothing and started putting it into doing something I bet you wouldnt have to be so angry all the timeI know I skimmed through your comment history|1 Its all the media has to talk about Of course we will see cases rise These closing are a good thing Think of all the infection not happening because all things are closed|1 I hope that fuck dies of covid because his valve breaks|0 It also gets the job done better because the 30 water pulls more alcohol through the viruss lipid envelope through osmosis rather than just blasting the envelope|1 People might say or even believe they will martyr themselves to save strangers lives but self preservation is a really strong instinct|1 Theyve already stated this virus can mutate into something more or less harmful and this has happened with coronaviruses in the past And there are already confirmed variations on the virus they are using to confirm how things have spread I wouldnt consider being open about very real possibilities as fearmongering Now if I was speculating on this virus mutating when a coronavirus has never mutated before THEN Id be fearmongering I think people should be very worried about this Worry does serve a purpose Look what is happening now with all the downplaying of the risks for the current outbreak Few are taking it seriously and they are giving this virus a chance to break wide open in a very short timeframe which greatly increases the risk of hospitals being overrun Hardly a desired outcome We are in a bit of a no win situation Im afraid|0 Germany isnt even reactive Im a Highschool junior and Im in the German state where theres the most corona infected in Germany But still we havent got any information closing or anything They will wait as long as possible before closing|0 What party of the country are you in|1 Thank you|1 Because were the greatest country in the world|1 I got a friend in Italy but not in the north He says things are starting to get a little strange but nothing too crazy just yet at least in his area|1 Its really not if you have even the most basic understanding of government and international politics Wars are far more common and pose a greater existential threat than a virus does to an extent Additionally you cant intimidate a virus into passivity with your mountainous stockpiles of respirators and biohazard suits but you can intimidate other states into pursuing non violent routes of conflict resolution with your nuclear mussels and tanks|0 I see where youre coming from but blaming the host for following the cancelation policy you agreed to is a bit much I think it would be good for Airbnb to refund you and still pay the host but I doubt they will do that for anyone let alone on a large scale|0 Stay safe Prayers up|1 It will affect the young and the healthy its just a matter of how many If theres a 0005 of dying while young and heatlhy that still means that young people will die how many depends on how many are infected|0 Nothing like advocating mass murder and irradiating a large swath of the world to combat pollution Unreal|0 there is now debate about that Asian countries where there is constant mask wearing are having lower rates of infection|0 Dude i really dont have the patience What are you talking about Irans official daily numbers that are declared by them to the world have a death ratio of approximately 10 I wont be responding to anything else you have to say ok|0 Thats a stupid theory|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 How come the 1 death rate WHO still has it at 36 i think|0 Agree and this means we have a much more realistic take on the infection rate|1 He cant say it was a false positive if it comes back We have the best tests excellent tests just really geat Ive seen them myself|1 So smoking makes you more vulnerable and Titos vodka helps cure|1 anecdotal evidence i visited my local dentist in rural Ontario last week there was a sign on the door to not enter if i had flu like symptoms or if i traveled to china within the last month when i entered the reception area there was a desk with masks and a large jug of antiseptic hand washgel with a sign saying disinfecting your hands was mandatory upon entry not typical when i sat in the chair to get my teeth cleaned the hygienist already had her facemask on when i entered the room along with her large glasses She asked me if I had flu like symptoms if I had recently traveled to china or been in contact with anyone who has been to china recently I said no to all my dentist stopped by to chat with me but did not check my teeth like usual and remained a few feet awayif health care workers are taking this seriously we should too|1 oh so this is the useful information coming from this sub s|1 You went from Fauci to Cuomo Pick a topic and stick to your discussion Fauci did not say national lockdown He said hes in favor of whatever measure we need to do which could be related to a national lockdown Cuomo said to mobilize the military This is to help with quick communication and help getting supplies to people People are severely underestimating the immune systems of the US We are the most vaccinated country and have a population density of 37 people per 1km Certain cities will be hit but not whole sections of the country like Italy and China|1 Australia was relatively early with putting quarantines into place has a small pop 25m Those facts make it difficult to know if the low numbers are because of summerAfrica I dont know how many tests kits they have or how many tests they have performedSouth America I dont know how many tests kits they have or how many tests they have performed either|0 Fantastic post Please cross post where ever you can|1 This is total bullshit Thanking the President for completely fucking over the country|0 Believe me those people arent in a low risk group for anything|1 Do not over exert take care of self first fuck|0 In Italy we have been informed by our politicians and media about the importance of quaranteen not only to not spread the virus but also to avoid overwork to our medicians and hospitals Some people just dont care and I cant fucking understand how selfish someone can be|0 Its definitely the weather that contributes to the spread of colds and the flu Take a brisk walk outside in 50 degree weather vs 70 degrees and youll notice that the mucus in your nose starts to thin and run illness or not Now picture a playground of children running around wiping their noses and touching everything in sight|0 You know that if you make too little money you dont even qualify through ACA You have to make above a certain amount If you make less you qualify for Medicaid UNLESS your state didnt roll out Medicaid expansion Then youre just fucked|0 Lets play devils advocate and say Trump is correct and the vaccine is created in a few months but because of FDA regulations testing and distribution like Dr Fauci said it could take a year or 2 to deploy it to everyone and the virus is still spreading in the meantime Would you want the vaccine right away even though you dont know the long term effects it will have but are guaranteed it will prevent you from getting COVID19 or wait until they have done their testing and get it a year or two from now to be sure and safe but this means you risk the chance of getting the virus the longer you wait|1 AMERICA FUCK YEAH|0 Dont forget literally their entire station is now quarantined|1 Do we know the number for brass doorknobs|1 It also infected far far more people But the percentage of infected that died was low|0 Youtube has a long history of trying to hide stories Remmeber when they broke the search function to stop people from finding mirrors of the new zealand shooter video The search wasnt functioning for almost a month with tons of people complaining in ryoutube about it|0 I give it less than a week I would be shocked if it isnt|0 The patients In Western countries have largely not being getting anything treatment wise just blood tests and monitoring Till they recover The Older Chinese lady who passed away in Germany was only getting fluids etc|1 honestly now that Ive seen that the bot exists I hope fucking coronavirus kills every single one of us including myself this is a pathetic existence|0 we dont deserve you thanks for everything you do|0 You are a product that easily breaksLOL|1 Apparently it authorizes the President to ignore the budget and spend federal money however he wantsThe difference is this time there is an actual emergency|0 It didnt start in the United States bub Check your factshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2787513|1 RNA extraction from the patient sample takes about an hour setting up the plate for the PCR ie mixing all ingredients and pipetting anything between 15 min and 1 hr depending on the number of samples the PCR itself about 12 hours If you know what youre doing of course You can have the result in 1 day|1 well in general kids heal fastereasier from scars anyways so i guess they are counting on thatNot saying there is no way itll leave permanent damage but its less likely than adultsOn anyone around 25 i guess itd be permanent damage already anyways but they also are being treated as mild|0 So we are all invited to your house Great Whats for dinner|1 Correct Everybody here on Reddit in mid January was convinced by what we were seeing coming out of China imperfect as it was the basic statistics the raw video and the personal posts stories that made it out It took the markets another 34 weeks to react for some odd reason And it was only when the markets reacted did the president of the US even bother to react publicly in any substantive wayThis virus is not existential to humanity No one is saying that But it is a total public health disaster depending on how governments grapple with it Looking around the world we can see which governments have their heads up their asses and which ones are togetherIm not encouraged by the US response|0 No 48 hours is for oil aerosols eg someone who works in a auto shopFor regular use if you are not in a chemical or industrial environment they last for 30 days or when it gets hard to breathe through|0 heres a really easy way to see it in math Imagine a high school of 1000 kids at 4 thats 40 kids who stop showing up to school every flu seasonSo the people saying Its not even that many dieing theyre fooling themselves Imagine if every flu season 40 kids just stopped showing up to school|0 Bro magnets how do they workI argue weve gotten where we are due to our ability to work cooperatively with one another as well as pass knowledge down from generation to generation Its not like those brilliant people you speak of were born with this innate ability to understand how electrical currents work out how we are made out of billions of tiny atoms|0 In management school you learn culture is set at the top Youre right that bureaucracy is innately stifling But its a lot more stifling when the guy at the top literally says he wants the numbers to stay low|1 Theres just one problem with that like of thinking People can be asymptomatic for anywhere from two days up to two weeks while they spread the virus around By the time people feel symptoms it is too late to contain anything|0 She is such a boss Every time I see a story about her shes taking bold decisive positive action|1 Good point|1 Ill add this to my wish list The hospital I work for has told us we only need surgical masks to treat COVID patients and we need to reuse masks to conserve our supply Im trying to find something safer|1 thank you unfortunately all numbers are steeped in uncertainty due to the lack of thorough testing|0 Could be Lots of masks tho Even the guy in the car has a mask Weird|0 I filled it All the best Keep us posted on how it impacts|1 Its always better to prepare for the worst|0 I agree this post is totally bs The disease would exponentially spread unless you isolate the patients if patients dont know they have the virus they can spread it to many others I cant believe thay anyone would slightly believe what OP wrote is correct|1 Way to own the libs hollywood and their Chinese crisis actors The world is flat epstein didnt kill himself Just another hollywood production out of California thanks Obama|1 Nonsense Private health care here are non profit and have no stockholders|1 Had to get a bOtH sIdEz aRE tHe SAme in there didnt you lol|0 They dont care who gets it as long as they can update the numbers when they confirm you died of it|0 Im so sorry Our mall is still bragging about being open Random House distribution center was at least decent enough to suspend the point system has a half hour between shifts and wont let people cross between buildings But still has a few hundred workers at least English American Tailoring company is going on as usualRestaurants and venues are having coronavirus salesIts like a game of how we can screw ourselves in the long run because I personally dont know anyone whos died Yet|0 How can I give understanding to you when you dont believea quote cant save you only The Lord Jesus Christ can|0 Yes |1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 levels of mutationsDid you get that from that viral video of a Chinese nurse I think that was a bad translation because mutations makes no sense in that context|0 lol just say you got medical advice from 111 to isolate if they ask you to prove it tell them to ring 111theyll have a fun time getting through and then chewed out by the operator for wasting precious time|1 Nah a half of them are still blaming the government for failing the initial containment When given other countries as a comparison a lot of them say it doesnt matter we still have lots of patients and many have died from it We should impeach the president|0 Looks like avocado toast is back on the menu boys|1 Thats what my ER doctor friend badly wants It would cut traffic in her ER tremendously if people would stop coming in with sniffles asking for a coronavirus test She needs to be able to see the really sick people and all these people who may have corona but arent even near serious condition are just clogging her ER and spreading it to vulnerable people She thinks if anyone could call and get a test delivered most of that traffic would disappear|0 If numbers slow down the public will relax their hand washing and distancing|1 I dont think that they think we are stupid they think everyone else thinks we are tin foil hat mf and no one will believe us I have personally stop trying to tell people unless they have an open mind|0 Im not saying he didnt make a mistake and Im not saying it isnt a big deal Im saying hes human and has never had this disease before and that we have no idea whether he contacted people to see if they could give the exam in his stead or whether the contacted the administration and they told him that they still expected classes to continue Im just adding the viewpoint of another college lecture instructor and mentioning how difficult it is to reschedule an exam with short notice even if many students want to move it depending on the institution a syllabus can act as legal leverage and moving an exam especially in a larger class can literally have legal repercussions and put the school and therefore instructor in a load of shit far beyond what most students comprehend goes into scheduling an exam If yours is a small class and the administration had already placed a separate methodology for administering tests remotely with little to no heads up or granted amnesty to professors who dont fulfill their teaching responsibilities than it completely changes things as well You and many friends may very well have been ok with a later exam but if a single student had sportworkor any other commitment they had altered or planned around to take the test on that day and the teacher was not afforded a chance to speak with them then they cant postpone the test without fear of repercussions from that student again this depends on the institution I once asked if I could change an exam date because it would be highly beneficial to all students and to me and I was told that I absolutely could not unless there was confirmation that EVERY enrolled student wanted the change a single nay and policy dictates the syllabus is the final say Things should be different in a pandemic hot zone Things should be different when professors get sick even outside pandemics but like any job where the level of specialization means there is no replacement the option of not coming in as a spur of the moment decision is nonexistent unless youre already in the hospital Your professor clearly should have gone to the hospital and Im really sorry this happened and I dont know every detail so please understand all Im doing is explaining what I think is not understood by most university students about being a professor or instructor including a career long ingrained message that you do not reschedule tests last minute and there is no one to replace you under most circumstances unless you have a week or more ahead of time to plan This shouldnt be the case anyone sick should be able to take a day off work but special circumstances with a pandemic for instance should have been addressed by the administration long before this happened Im sorry to you Im sorry to everyone in your class and Im sorry to your professor who probably did what he thought was right under the circumstances If Im missing any details like the professor had had a fever for days or there was an administrative plan in place than know that I do think the professor is at fault He should know to obey quarantine procedures but to me it sounds like he did he just didnt realize he was potentially sick with Covid 19 until after he printed planned and showed up to class with the tests If Im wrong about that than he loses any of the benefit of the doubt|0 Absolutely incredible what we can do under pressure Hats off to them Lets continue to unite around the world and beat this thing|0 I specifically took issue with this statementThe world is not endingAs I said if we agree that this statementFirst is the data Its just not thereIs true then we logically have to agree that the first statement cannot be made with any high degree of confidence FWIW my feeling based on all of the available data is that this is not going to collapse us However I have to acknowledge that since the data is just not there then we cannot know that at this juncture and to specify otherwise is simply illogical and incorrectIts good you told people to prepare however you did try to limit their scope of what could possibly happen You wanted that Overton Window to stay narrow However as that article and many other analyses Ive read over the last decade indicate a pandemic would not even have to be that severe to create a cascade effect that could potentially lead to the collapse of civilization aka informally and somewhat tongue in cheek the end of the world Again it is simply incorrect to state with confidence the world is not ending at this juncture if you also agree that the data is not there|1 How is 60 not elderly lol|0 This is what you should remember about the CCP everyone is lying and faking reports from the lowest birocrat to the highest general to hide problems and avoid blame or to invent problens only they can solve and get recognition To the point where the country itself cant take economic measures since it cant rely on the data to the point where they have to send investigators abd spies in their own ranks Look at this where doctors and low party officials want to publish data and studies where they minimize the mortality problem and the stats people and high party officials want lower numbers overall even if they dont relate to eachother|0 Ive been told it was manufactured to make money off a vaccine Ive been told it was released by China to get back at us for the tariffs Ive also been told it was released by china to kill off their aging population because its a big burden on their society and they just didnt expect it to go global Where do people come up with this stuff|0 Gross negligence People have gone to prison for this at a business or personal level|0 Lmao absolutely not This is a big step but didnt even make front page news Impeachment trial and brexit are bigger stories|1 Thank you|1 I hope it works for everyone OP and others this too shall pass I thought my life was over many times yet here I am despite challenges You will get through this Deep Yogi abdominal breathing and meditation helps kill panic attacks|0 Ok thats good You win FineSo youre saying vaccines dont help slow the progression of diseases Thats what R0 measures does it not How fast the virus reproduces|1 Well thats fucking terrifying|0 Just the flu bros getting a rude awakening|0 Thanks much Will do|1 Rumor of a case just tested positive in Thunder Bay from PDAC Well know for sure later tonight|1 I think people are under the impression that theres some easy swab test out there This is not the casehttpswwwgenomewebcompcrcdcprovidestestprotocolnovelcoronavirusprepskitslocaluseI dont know how testing is done in DE but it is likely through a central lab that has a limited capacity Given that clinicians have a triage protocol to determine who is most at risk You didnt meet those criteria|0 Animals witnessed it but this isnt the end but rather the beginning of the end of lige as we know it This will further push people to actually become one and actually DO SHIT about problems Not just the strong will survive but also those strong willed and those with charisma I will promise you all one thing This will be for the greater good We need new leaders Old leaders become corrupt and we need to change every 30 years due to shit hitting the van due to incompetent people who are on the top because they act as fucking children who lost their lollies Dont worry just keep going DO NOT STOP LIVING JUST KEEP YOUR WILL UP AND YOU WILL NOT FALTER i say this with experience I should have died already 4 times I did not|0 No matter what government doesWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|0 Will this be only for those who actually need it Or they going to just give it to everyone Some of us will not be majorly affected by this financially Id rather leave more for the poor and those who are deeply affected|0 well like 1 throughout the entire united states shows how terrible this response is for some rapid spreading disease|1 kids definitely dont just stay home many use the time to travel andor party also even at my small college going home for many kids means flyingdriving to states all over the country especially up and down the coast|1 No hes working on pissing into the wind when the weather is nice He is having zero impact He is buying PR|0 Rent usually goes to private landlords though who will depend on it for income I agree it would be fair to do it but its far more complex than the government agreeing with the smaller number of mortgage lenders|1 This is not positive news for the species at all For all we know this strain of Pangolin CoV can be fatal for the species and could cause thousands of Pangolins to die This case would only further their extinction not scare the Chinese population from consuming them|0 Ill realize that on a ship you live in a 40 x 20 room with 100 people share a bathroom with 46 shower stalls maybe 6 toilets and maybe 6 sinks|0 I think its too soon for this sort of analysis to be coming out yet though there will be a lot of sequencing going on certainly As for the temperature look at how empty of cases Africa and South America are on the map herehttpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Doesnt look like its doing too well in hotter temperatures so far|1 WHO gave examples for the kind of information theyre trying to stop see above Take of the tin foil heads|0 It seems to be creeping up much slower than infections but the next two weeks should be interesting I think there is another 22 patient cluster in a nursing home Testing for health care and senior care professionals should be the absolute 1 priority|1 With the current procedures in place NoIs it possible Yes Will governments take those actions that would cause that No theyre trying to minimize economic fallout|1 Well the bad news is I called it off I have a dry cough and took my temperature and have a fever of 991Of course they dont have enough tests for mild cases so I dont know if I have it and might never know but Im sure as hell not going to leave my house and risk spreading since I have symptoms But hopefully my post will inspire others so the idea wont be for naught D|1 He is a citizens of the European Union and therefore an European like a Russian|1 Not a bat people The bat was probably just chilling doing its own thing and not thinking about destroying the worlds economy before it was hunted and eaten|1 Problem is importing masks is not allowed currently and supplies have been dwindling already because of the protests So at this point you need to go full stop and then work your way back to normalcy|0 I live in Feira and went today to the pharmacy I was waiting for my turn when suddenly the guy that was being attended by the pharmacist started to fill badly and just fell down vertically to the ground and hitting with his head on the floor He was without conscience by 10 seconds and then opened again the eyes He was able to see how many fingers I have on my hand and started talking He said that he went to the local medical center and he was having headaches and feber We were all in shock and calling the ambulance He just was there laying in the ground and we were worried to not move him because the hit he took on the floor was very hard People that were trying to enter the pharmacy were all in panic and went away Meanwhile the ambulance came and he was already on his foot but swetting a lot The guy was 32 good looking and good shape I am just shocked and I needed to share this|1 Me too I feel like this shit could get real bad Like fuck this is the one|0 Just a side gig for me Can actuallyake decent money if you avoid the delivery only orders|0 Shell be safe But not Bob BarkerSource Time Traveler|1 We know more now back in 1918 they didnt know Spanish flu was a virus or how to contain one|1 Why not There is already a lot of research from past outbreaks of deadly coronaviruses Virology as a field has developed alongside every other field and has natural developed in leaps and bounds since the Human Genome project completed just 17 years ago|1 Let us know if the pope slides up in your DMs please|1 Oh you mean the people sharing nonsense about the coronavirus on social media Like the US televangelist whos selling a 125 Coronavirus cure Or the lowinformation folks who claim its just a flu or the idiots in Shanghai who claim it can be completely cured in 3 days or less using a combination of exotic and extremely rare Traditional Chinese Herbs Or the fools in Nigeria who are shouting on Social Media that the Nigerian govt is lying and there is no Coronavirus case in the country or the cleric in Iran who claimed on social media it can be cured by applying violet leaf oil to the anus Yeah if I was the authoritarian President of any country you can bet your damn ass Id be ordering the prompt arrests of those category of people too|0 Work smarter not harder|1 But if instead of SARSCoV2 we look at influenza viruses how many people are killed by thoseBecause now we are looking only at SARSCoV2 but of course there are massive amount of other viruses in circulation as well Would be interesting to know what the big picture is|1 That wont happen studies have shown that even when presented with the facts behaviours continue the same They may stop or slow for a short while but theyll eventually continue|0 How is it the wrong word if you are speculating as well|0 Find an article written by Obi J And co called treating sepsis with vitamin c thiamine and hydrocortisone exploring the quest for the magic elixerTrue but also these tests used 50mg of vitamin c per kikogram and that is a lot|1 In sweden I have seen something I never thought Id see Authorities are refusing to close schools they tell people that this is controlled and limited that masks dont help that there is nothing to worry about They even get people on TV to laugh at the treath every single night Im not saying that the world will end but this is madness Today we doubled from 15 to 30 cases No one bats a fucking eye Instead they say We expected this its all good Okay but when is it time to shit our pants then At 100 1000 10 000 100 000 According to them never|0 Errr so do you live in a its just a flu part of the midwest Masks were mostly cleaned out 6 weeks ago here and then the last of the hardware store masks were finished off 2 weeks agoOr maybe its because youre near the manufacturers Most of the country hasnt seen any in weeks|0 Theyre quite hesitant to disclose the flight arent they Did this man and his family go to any stores or other public places before his hospitalization|0 Cute look|1 What would be a potential explanation for the patient to have gotten better and then worsen after a couple of weeks|0 Read in the paper yesterday they think this will turn around at around 90k cases Which makes sense if you compare that to Wuhan which locked down at 500 cases vs Italy at 7k What this shows is that everyone that is above 500 and hasnt done anything will be worse than Wuhan And that is a lot of countries by now|0 Really disgusted with the CCP I mean the US gov on thisAnd on pretty much everything else|0 Yeah but the 6th was announced before that website address was generated The actual link I posted still talks about the 6th|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Remember when Bezos became the richest person on earth but his business didnt declare a profit|0 should do like China and quarantine and test everyone arriving to the country|1 I am very proud of you congrats Quiting cigs might be challenging but you can do it|1 So if you had an elderly parent in critical condition and a MD you know someone with education you dont have gave you the option of no ventilator or a ventilator with a 3D printed part you would turn down the latterIn severe crises like this is right now for Italy doctors are going to be a bit more concerned with the best possibility for saving patients Medical professionals are using every available tool right now while putting themselves at risk to the virus themselves as well as litigation If youre seriously more concerned about them getting sued or charged right now rather than appreciating their desperate ingenuity then Im sorry but theres something wrong with you Maybe you should get your medical degree and go risk death to help people if youre so ethical and aware of how things should be done rather than sitting on here judging medical professionals|0 If everyone gets sick at the same time way more people will die because hospitals will be overwhelmed If we spread out the rate of infection then hospitals can keep up and people wont be perishing in parking lots and waiting rooms|0 I was perfectly healthy in my 30s caught pneumonia and some other virus and had this afterwardshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiViralcardiomyopathyMy cardiologist thinks its more common than theyve thought She had a patient the week before I did early 20s that had something similar and was so severe that he had to be immediately placed on the transplant list|1 I bet they change their mindsHis show tonight didnt work You cant have that format without an audience because there is no call and response So every joke sounds like it doesnt landColbert was struggling through the whole thing It would be like bombing a stand up gig|1 it would be really interesting if you could take a video of what its like out there I left maybe about 10 days ago and my parents just left there a couple days ago Said it was a ghost town|1 Expect the industry to fight back with PR and advertising more likely|0 A sample size of 80 is nothing and numbers pulled from the data dont mean anything until you start testing people randomly Its almost certainly that all 80 people tested got themselves tested because they were already showing symptoms or were in contact with someone who tested positive or was showing symptoms and had yet to be testedA larger data pool is needed a much larger one Drawing any conclusions from these numbers is like polling 80 people outside a drug recovery center and determining that 40 of the US population addicted to crack|1 Maybe youre right but take France for example There are currently 5423 confirmed cases in a population of 67 million Thats 00809 of the population Even if we assume the true infected is 10x or 100x that it seems foolish to give up on containment at the current level of infection Thats basically condemning the other 999 to the same fate|0 Man people are doing that in Korea that are visibly infected its honestly fucked up to even joke about it if your not sick cause its dormant while you spread it for 1427 days before you even start getting sickIts this mentality that fucks up the situation worse|0 the colleges in Michigan have had spring break for the last two weeks terrified of whats going to come from this|0 Ha Big oof there|1 And before it impacted them they just used it for political bashing each other didnt do shit Fuck all of them|1 You are posting and sending comments for 247 nonstop It seems like paid internet trolls are working with triple shifts per day in China|1 You have to remember something this was in Portugal its doesnt mean we dont value coronavirus we dont value anything at all our health system is atrocious as is the whole country tbh what a shit whole|0 Why visit Wuhan and risk your life when Photoshop is a safe and convenient alternative Especially since you can censor the internet and jail people who point it out online|0 And i will be right here reminding everyone of the facts of what party is responsible for the biggest loss of life and wealth in the US since the 1918 pandemic|1 Yes Especially with AirBnB all of downtown is going to have infected roaming around the elevators|0 so you get both and end up in the hospital with pneumonia Other opportunist diseases push up the rate of complications while masking the originnCov by itself is mild in 80 of cases|1 They tell patients that because patients never listen anyway and there isnt good evidence for keto diet health improvements Meaning peer reviewed double blind kinds of evidence|0 Just wanted to wish you well|1 Meh good enoughonly 30 million infections and 30000 deathsAnd yet there were 36500 automobile fatalities in the US in 2018 which are arguably really really preventableWere both deep into whataboutism at this point but you started it The primary thing to remember in this sort of discussion isSomething will be a cause of death for every personif influenza were as lethal to kids as COVID19 is to seniors and we had no vaccine we would definitely be locking them away for 5 monthsWell we can agree on that But the other thing to remember going back to the comment you originally replied to is that covid19 is more toxic to seniors but not that doesnt mean its not toxic to the rest so the solution is not simply isolate senior citizens Unless you really liked Lord of the Flies and want to see that novel come to life|1 I thought he definitely had it I know hes quarantining himself|1 Anecdotal but a friend and her two kids just came down with something today maybe just a cold but all have a cough Previous to the coughing all three were in multiple busy shops I am eating what I bought planning on doing a big grocery run after a week or two when things are quieter right now I am seeing whole families go into the grocery shop I expect that to drop to just one person when people stay taking this seriously|1 Eyyy ty|1 My local Drs doesnt even have any Drs because they all left over brexit We have one retired volunteer Dr whos in his 70sI feel so bad for him|0 Its mostly contact and droplet It is not airborne like TB but can be aerosolized with coughs and sneezes sometimes So the infected wearing a surgical mask is great at preventing spread But will N95 keep YOU from contracting it from someone else Ask those doctors how well it worked|1 53 deaths to 30000 infected untested based on 20x official positive figures 017 CFR If we take 10x then thats only doubleIm not saying its going to be that way in the long runEDIT wanted the current figure Not 1|1 Well I think it is becoming evident that the concept of the conspiracytheory FEMA Camps is in fact a falsehoodOtherwise wed have seen the homeless sent to them about six weeks ago Nationwide|1 Its 802 now And were doing all of nothing so far to stop it so its already in 36 states and DC only counting confirmed positives so with that solid countrywide spread and no containment whatsoever because were treating low risk as no risk well be screwed pretty soon The numbers were estimated to be over 9000 a couple days ago anyway since everyone tested is either hospitalized or dead but there are definitely way more infected because per SK its about a 15 hospitalization rate iirc I hope we get it together soon|0 This is about the best youre going to gethttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191Just too new This isnt good data|1 They stay admitted then|1 Trump hoping pence takes the heat He knows all about kill the messenger mindset|0 1 is caused by coronavirus filovirus Ebola Lassa fever Rift Valley fever or Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever2 kills at least 250 people3 lasts at least 12 weeks4 has at least 250 new cases in the past 12 weeks5 has an increasing average number of new cases over the past 12 weeks and6 kills at least 20 people in a second countryThese requirements have all clearly been met Am I missing something|0 Oral test positive|1 Source httpsstaticseattletimescomwpcontentuploads20200303132020Seattleeerie231808375x277jpgFrom article Seattle in the age of coronavirus Not quite empty but eerie athttpswwwseattletimescomseattlenewsseattleintheageofcoronavirusnotquiteemptybuteerieEDIT And Im not sure if spread is the word I was looking for in the post title Maybe detection is more accurate|0 Would homemade masks help I am a quiltersewist and I have a lot of cotton fabric I have suggested this before but immediately I am told I am irresponsible and that this is dangerous BTW I am also an RN I have even thought of adding a layer of furnace filter fabric as they filter tiny particles|0 I know An 80 healthy person has less than 148 of dying an 80 sick person has greater The weighted average of those age is what is shown though if infectedA random 80 year old unknown condition has a 148 chance of dying if infectedEdit More factors more risk but you cant just add the risk of dying together it doesnt work like that Source Me BS in Mathematics GATECH|0 Thank you|1 Fuck homeless people would be inviting to all sit in the same room to eat together and infect each other instead of allowing them to take a cup of soup and a spoon to go Stop being an idiot|0 I can tell you that health care workers are just as bad just watch the news most are wearing their mask incorrectly unless you work in a ward that deals with infectious disease everyday you get maybe 15mins of training when you show up if that|0 I wonder if coronavirus now has a 100 survival rate for people over 100 years old safest age bracket to be in other than under 10In all seriousness though glad he pulled through thats amazing|1 What does the reinfection rate look like based on our data today At what date do you think this information will be provenobvious from the Chinese population|1 Yeah Fucking global recessionlevels bad|0 The party isnt for the two year old Its for SiLs ego|1 It looks nasty even for young people Not just a cold|0 No because 67 cases doesnt really represent anything The flu still spreads during the offseason just not as much It might infect 01 of Singapore due to its warm climate and infect 3 of the population of cities in colder climates That is still thousands of cases but obviously there is a huge difference It can spread that doesnt mean it has a very high R0 at all in hot and humid climates|1 Wrong and wrong good sir|0 Too soon to say a statement like that Wait until it really spreads into an endemic or pandemic|1 God bless Tedros the patron saint of the church of Xi|1 He did not say that Pence said that he himself pence did not get tested As for Trump all he said was his physicians are responsible for his health and that they will let the public know with a direct answerPlease dont spread misinformation or atleast pay attention next time|1 Thats not the issue The issue is being around large numbers of people who are much more likely to be carriers Its extremely risky|0 do you know how complicated it is to have my parents set up a will can they just print out a document that lists things out and sign itand if they dont and they go away does the government gain everything like the house and their bank accounts and life insurance payouts|1 It will happen soon enough My mom is in assisted living in NY and Ive heard from another family that there is now someone with the virus in their parents facility However it has not been made public not sure why unless it will be soon Im positive there are a lot more elderly who will be at risk|1 Judging by his Twitter he appears to have had depression He doesnt appear to be a very funny comedian and is more of a social moaner Theres shitloads of them who pose as comedians Anyhow thought this was pretty apt Thank you Blaine for helping me spread the word on Suicide Prevention as a Workplace Health and Safety Issue garyveechallengehttpstwittercomhashtaggaryveechallengesrchashtagclick Well you could possibly be spreading something more than a little word on Suicide Prevention possibly by cutting out a persons choice in the matter|1 caresses his SBS and deagle tightly and tenderly Dgtfo off my lawn and leave my toilet paper alone Drestricted license ftw|1 line and then ignoring all other factors like oh cost of livingHow do you compare cost of living when western amenities literally dont exist in the areax200BNo one has air conditioningNo one has indoor plumbingNo one has internetNo one has electrictyHow do you adjust for cost of livingItS cHeApEr ThOuGh|0 Good idea actually RemindMe 2 Weeks|1 Yea I guess though again Im not a medical or scientific professional so please do research on this Again no problem and best of luck|1 My bike is packed and ready to go I may just ride up into the National Forest and sit this one out under the oaks|1 3040 growth of ydays numbersCobra should close all schools unis and large public spaces such as stadiumsarenas They should also issues edicts for all smaller venues to close along with pubs bars and restaurants They need to enact SSP from day1|1 These were Australian hospitals where they do test people that have been showing symptoms or have been linked to an infected caseSource I showed symptoms and was tested without having contact with a known infected|0 I live in Texastwice as big as ItalyI live so far south that its a 20 minute drive to Mexico And we have already 2 confirmed cases I toodidnt think about it reaching this far that fast And Im a gas station cashier so I deal with a lot of dirty money going around It finally caught my attention yesterday|0 Other countries are imposing quarantine at lower rate of infections China did it quite early on and now they managed to curb it to low numbers Why are we not following a model that works and instead they are recommending herd immunity|0 no but i had been off for a couple of days where there was no community spread in dfw Yesterday was my first day scheduled for the week|0 Sure but what is worse Just sitting around if attacked by an armed person or also be armed and perhaps stand a chance Precisely because so many people have guns is why its also a good idea to have one in a situation like thisIts a Red Queen scenario and just laying down arms seems stupid to me|0 I am not fond of any information or research coming from China these days They lied and covered this up from the start I would prefer for this information to be confirmed by a scientist in the USUKAUSSKOREA etc|0 Masks are no longer available anywhere around where I live so for many its out of our hands anyway |0 You can see the three phases of people easily manipulated by the media1st Phase FUCK china dirty bat eating chinamen they deserve it2nd Phase Ok its overblown wont effect us Fake news media crazy3rd Phase last phase Oh shit shit real panic and frenzy instead of logic|0 WHO has always discouraged closing borders They did so in 2014 with Ebola And there isnt sufficient scientific evidence to prove that border closings work|0 Do I get the same praise if i donate a 1 coin|1 Ugh roaches too please|0 prison with a chance of drowning now with added coronavirus|0 Ah thanks for clarifying I guess I misunderstood the article since it used the words screening test rather than diagnostic test I figured maybe china was using a less expensive screening test then confirming any positives with PCR|1 No its not it says Mainland China at the top of the chart|0 They should stop doing elective surgery Many people are asymptomatic Cant believe he purposely hid this|0 Pretty much how he saw it at the time Crazy prank Literally a bro and literally just the flu now that I think about it|0 Its not meant to say anything about COVID our hospitals and GPs are overwhelmed in winter with a myriad of other diseasesheart attacksfallsflu a COVID outbreak on top of that would push the NHS over the brink and be a catastrophe Maybe the virus itself isnt massively affected by seasonal changes but that doesnt mean a multitude of other diseases arent|0 The only thing that I havent gotten yet was shower supplies etcI have about about 50lbs of rice 15lbs of frozen chicken dried fruit 2 boxes of canned veggies and fruit bags of frozen vegies3 cases of water because they were cheap and two packs of toilet paper from Costco I tell me self this will be enough for a couple weeks but I am just not sure I guess if the shit really hit the fan I can grab some milk and bread to freeze and some more stuff I guess|1 Yes thats basically what gained with the Spanish flu from my understanding|1 Tried to edit the title to reflect this turns out theres no way to edit a title on Reddit was going off of what the local news stations were saying in my area apparently they were misinformed and took it to be passed since the president said he had backed it and it would soon go into effect sorry for the incorrect info should have put house passed not congress|0 Thanks for the information Edit to addJust went to look at the breakdown of cases by area for Shanghai is the area with the extra measures Pudong New Area|1 Yup I didnt sign anything saying I accept to work through a pandemic without PPE and then bring back that disease to my family I quit nursing a long time ago but would give my government the same regard they gave me in this situation|1 So like Facebook since it doesnt have Dislike|1 Thanks for the link Hopefully some good preliminary news will trickle out beforehand easing the public and encouraging even further testing from Gilead and Americaninternational partners|1 not true the Italian businessman that travelled to China was tested and was negative He was also tested for antibodies and they didnt find them meaning he never had coronavirusSo in Italy patient 0 was not found|0 Took him to mutiple hospitals and was told theres no vacancy no matter how hard we tried to get help we still couldnt get my dad into a hospitalHoly shit Rest in peace|0 Yep dont need aspirin or penicillin|1 When you put it like that I see your point|1 Agreed The Korean Data followed by the Germans in a week should tell us more about how many mildmoderate cases there are and how many need to be hospitalized Koreans went into lockdown on February 25th so were almost 2 weeks into it|1 Perhaps i dont consider it irrationalpanicky as I define it differentely and I actually experienced behaviour of people after Chernobyl Abortions for me were panicking recommended by all hospitals Chinese governement recommends this type of salt rather than the normal one Now if people bought potentially poisonous substance or a rhino powder to treat radiation Id agree with you definitely It is kind of normal that people understand scientific info vaguely rather than precisely there is excellent article of Sagan on that which leads to these results but that is just a sign of scientific lack of literacy for me rather than panickingirrationality|1 Panic is the result of being unprepared for an event they werent mentally ready for The best defense against panic is to be prepared and to educate yourself and your family What Im saying is that we want the same thing The only difference is how we go about achieving that result Which is a nonpanic preparedness Theres already going to be a huge percentage of the world that asks What virus when it comes to your town Already a certain percentage of people that think its the flu Whats best for everyone is that people take precautions against spreading the disease We get there not by downplaying it but with education Absolutely keep the speculation to a minimum but dont accept everything your government says as the only viewpoint Governments have a stake in keeping the economy going and goods being made and sold Therefore they are certainly going to paint things in a manor that reduces the chance of economic recession At the same time they may inadvertently cause people to downplay the impact of this pandemic|1 Its like Ive spent my life training for this moment|1 Why blame the young people The planes are still flyingPeople are motivated by economic interests News at 11Discounted airfare is working exactly as intended|1 In the UK I can only find antibacterial soap they dont even sell normal soap ffs|0 Ah yes the wonderful life of someone who can just skip on schoolwork until theyre healthy and lives alone Testing is pretty fucking useful to know if youre putting people who may be part of a highrisk group in danger and no doctor because they cant do anything for you means no documents proving you are in fact sick and should most definitely not be spreading whatever you have in your classworkplace|1 Therell be plenty of room for another airline that DOESNT do this stupid shit and those people can work there|0 Facts survival of the richest indeed|1 Wow Thats bonkers|1 We have confirmed cases in our local area Getting reports from employer Im pretty sure we will be closing some schools at some point It just seems inevitable|1 And my colleagues and my boss still think its just a flu|0 In China people live in communities which are called Xiao Qu In the time of quarantine food and package will be delivered to the gate of these communities similar to the front desk of an apartment building the delivery men are not allowed to enter the Xiao Qu for safety issues And for the old people who live alone the government sends essentials to the communities and HOA of each Xiao Qu will distribute food to the old people I doubt that this will be possible in America even if the government is willing to provide free food to old people in quarantine I dont see HOA here would do the distribution job as what is done in China|1 There is a popular youtuber who has legit credentials to speak on the virus and the potential spread of it he was freaking out about the severity it in january when news broke about it He has had his channel for something like 7yrs guess what It was demonitized by YouTube a piece of chinese media was calling him crazy and a fear monger There were people who could have helped guide our government through this much easier and better than theyve been doing Unfortunately they were all labeled crazies in the beginning Our government failed the fuck out of us|0 Dont bother mate|1 Yeah This is fucked Fucking fucked Its not like we will all die or anything Humanity will go on Life will go on We will adapt and develop immunities and keep going But with so much death youre probably going to at least know someone that dies from this shit Most certainly will at least know someone who was hospitalized and possibly affected for life Fuck I need some more Jim Beam|0 There is no such thing as a Boost to immune systemWhat about gamma globulin It used to be given routinely before travel to developing countries but we stopped once we developed Hep A and Hep B vaccines Might that help There was some comment somewhere about the American evacuees in California being given some sort of immune system stimulant First it might not be an accurate report But if it were gamma globulin is one of the few things I can think of as possibilities|1 Cos this cunt who spread it in the first place|0 As a citizen of a China city most affected what is yourunderstanding of how this outbreak started We here in the US we have heard many stories Which to believe Bio weapon mutation of some sort of germ from an animal transferred to human People who have eaten snakes bats or some kind of unusual animal Accident involving a bio weapon factory that a substance was released|0 The International Health Regulations prioritize both minimizing public health risks and avoiding unnecessary interference with international traffic and trade But there will also be a need to identify critical nodes of the banking system and global and national economies that are too essential to fail there are some that are likely to need emergency international financial support as well|0 Where are you getting your numbers from Might help with my anxiety |1 Yet another random reddit comment written in minutes that is so much better than how it really ended Its just sadI never had a fully fleshed out theory for the ending or who would win the throne but I came up with an ending to the Lannister story that I thought was too good to go unusedTyrion after losing all hope makes a suicide attempt at killing Cersei for luring Jaime back He is quickly and tragically destroyed by the Mountain Cersei goes into labor shortly after and receives the death she deserves but not a violent vengeful death like fans expected She dies like her mother giving birth to a dwarf The poetic justice is delicious and millions rejoice Jaime takes the baby back North and raises baby Tyrion with Brienne at his side The biggest disappointment for me was how Cersei died From the very first episode she was awful and only got more despicable as the story went on When Joffrey died looking humiliated and disgusting and powerless it was so satisfying So I KNEW that Cersei the only bigger villain around from start to finish would be the among the greatest deaths in fiction Boy they subverted me good|0 I will confess that when Trump first talked about this my wife and I ordered masks 60 days of food and a few other supplies We have never done anything like this but Trump speech showed a complete lag understanding We felt no trust in our government to deal with this|0 So you are suggesting that we should open all packages The virus may not necessarily be on the outer packaging it can just as easily be on the item itselfAnyway that was just one example This is also zoonotic which means animals can be carriers as well Should we shoot all animals at the border SARS jumped from bats to civets to humans Coming back to international travel once this is ubiquitous and it will be should all international travelers self quarantine There are literly 1000s every day It would bring the country to a halt and that is assuming that people will follow it which is not long term viable with so many living pay cheque to cheque Again short of becoming comepletely isolated like NK there isnt much we can do but buy time until a vaccine becomes available or better drugs become availableYou accuse me of thinking short term yet that is exactly what you are doing You are just deferring the problem by an unknown amount of time which could be a day a month a year all while decimating the economy You fail to understand that this is a virus By its very nature it will spread everywhere All it will take is one superspreader like patient 31 in SK to spread it around Better education emphasis on hand hygiene social distancing limited quarantineshutdowns are how we need to slow it|1 To me this just sounds like a great way to basicly support their highly questionable numbers in regards to cases and deaths within ChinaIm assuming they will claim all their deaths where from the milder strain while the rest of the world is dealing with the evolved strain and thats why a country like Italy is seeing such rapid growth and a completely different ratio in regards to death percentage|1 Agree So Much|1 People are still going My sister and her boyfriend are heading down to Florida tomorrow for a one week cruise I think shes crazy She is in her early fifties|0 Its pretty likely Your symptoms are dead on what you would expect Like textbook Feebleness is a major early symptomId self quarantine or once you have a fever go to your hospital and ask to be quarantinedYou cant be too safe I doubt you will lose your job based on the situation versus imagine infecting multiple elderly people who have high mortality rates from this|0 I was placed on quarantine by my doctor today Told not to come in or go anywhere at all unless one of us gets bad Then to call the squad or come in to the ER but tell them were coming no matter whatCovid hotline wouldnt test us Sent us back to the doctorWe are three unconfirmed in the Midwest|0 Glad someones saying it this subs so ridiculous it almost reads as parody sometimes|0 After wrestlemania it wil top italy|1 Even in the its just a flue part of the midwest they are all sold out Idk wtf dude is talking about I live in a rural area full of dipshit conservatives who believe trump that its no big deal and were sold out of all the shit everyone else is|0 Thank you so much|1 httpswwwwhointcsrdon12january2020novelcoronaviruschinaenI can confidently say that this virus didnt just make itself it spread from a seafood market where fish and birds are constantly in contact with people httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiInfluenzaAvirus I can also confidently say that it is in fact some kind of influenza Read a book|1 When this gets passed to you or your parents or grandparents and someone dies will it be a crime then The act was deliberate and according to Tort law if it can be proved that they reasonably knew their actions could reasonably cause harm to others then they are negligent since causation will be pretty easy to prove Also you might not be aware but a lot of countries do have laws against deliberate transmission of harmful and or deadly diseases all this came about from the days of AIDS and Herpes One example belowhttpswwwtheguardiancomcommentisfree2011aug19jailherpessexuallytransmittedinfectionhttpswwwtheguardiancomcommentisfree2011aug19jailherpessexuallytransmittedinfection|0 Just the airport security pilots her driver passport control the cleaners of the jet all the people she came within 30ft of etc etc|1 I just keep thinking of Florida This disease is going to rip through Florida like theres no god damn tomorrow|0 LOL useless agencies You sound ridiculous Can you even begin to understand the inefficiencies and redundancies that would be related if each state was responsible for running each of these And you clearly dont understand what any of these agencies do if you think theyre useless The federal governments job isnt just to protect our land from foreigners I have news for you the caravans arent going to destroy our country Remember what happened after the last emergency when caravans were coming NOTHING Take a break from Fox News and Russian propaganda IRA is the Russian group running propaganda campaigns in our country I guess you havent been following the news|0 Yes we need to do this|1 I swear Americans should wear Hazmat suits and go to Ghuangzou just to get tested|0 Im more concerned about the low number of people that has been testedLets leave proactive testing aside for a moment but of all people that have been evaluated from Wuhan and cruise ship they tested max 10 They have been released or will be released soon if no symptoms show up That could become a problem|0 They lost the swab and are hoping you forget|0 The fact that its responding to HIV targeted drugs is concerning Glad the gentleman is doing well|1 I would agree especially when they start getting sick My husband is a firefighterparamedic in a large city and we are taking ever precaution not to get it so he can keep working|0 They will blame Russia and Trump x200BThey wont blame us Xers though Everyone forgets about the Xers Except for this fucking virus|0 So this patient is in critical condition this need to go UP it also answer about half the top posts|0 I can only speak for ScotlandIve been working this weekend nhs with a big boss whos ccd into our important emails in regards to the virusScotland numbers are absolutely correct as far as our entire healthcare system knows Id expect England being the sameFar too many people are in the loop for there to be a conspiracy|0 It can use Arduino IDE Your post is unnecessarily derisive of a fantastic new development in this area My other reply waxes on about its merits Oh and you dont have to use WiFi I have yet to leverage that function and have 3 or 4 test benches deployed|1 I had a similar experience coming back from China with my girlfriend the day before the travel ban We went through Korea on our way to the US On the plane from China to Korea they made us fill out a health check form but when we got to the airport because we were doing a transfer all they had to do was put a temperature gun to our head to see if we had a fever or not No questions asked and the form wasnt even looked at They didnt even ask if we have been to Wuhan in the last few weeks After just a more than normal security check we got into the main international terminal area with everyone else Scary The American side was pretty bad too They at least asked us if weve been to Wuhan or not but there was absolutely no temperature check or any form of any kind of health check They just gave me a card that said basically go to the doctor if you have a fever cough andor shortness of breath in the next 2 weeks Now were at my parents house staying in the basement trying to keep as little contact as possible with them for the next 2 weeks to make sure everythings fine Im really scared that people incubating the virus are getting through everywhere on Earth now|0 Yeah im really grossed out by the intense apathy of all my peers Im definitely going to be a passive carrier of this disease at the very least its impossible i wont be contaminated given my situation But im strong and can handle it im not worried about myself at all in terms of the illness Meanwhile i try to my peers and they laugh It makes me feel so alone in thinking|1 Droplet spread means less likely to be spread in those not symptomatic Good to be cautious but it will certainly be less than the transmission of symptomatic individuals|1 Thats probably because other countries are misdiagnosing dont have proper protocols or processes to have accurate figures or in the United States the best country in the world has tested only a few thousand people|1 everyone voluntarily wearing masks and practices precautionary measuresIt seems Western countries have a hard time with voluntarily doing things|0 Rofl|1 The only blood type without those receptors is negative blood types So I think the negative blood types have a higher advantage|0 Hes a backtoback NBA Defensive Player of the Year whos in the prime of his career Not quite an untouchable sacred calf like your Jordans or LeBrons for examplebut pretty closeI foresee a 4minute interview piece with Doris Burke filmed in soft focus Maybe Gobert gets choked up and cries a little as he talk about how much hes learned and the responsibility of being a global ambassador for the NBA Then hell get a supermax contract deal in 2021|0 Scandals seem to follow him like a plague|0 it has more to do with hatred for the current govt and their internalised racism their reaction to this would have been different had it come from some western country|0 It is when that this bug does seem to survive for quite awhile on different surfaces even 24 hours on clothing is problematic|0 Best case scenario they are doing random testing in this cityWorst case scenario the guy is critical|1 I downloaded the BOINC client added the RosettaHome project and signed in to my RosettaHome account I joined the rcoronavirus project as well Now it says its downloading work but all of the downloads show 0 Any ideas why its not downloadingx200BEdit I got it to start working but how do I tell if its doing a Corona related project Someone said look at the project ID but I dont see that I see the Project name and its something like rb03161863718451abt000h001robettaIGNORETHEREST111590220230|1 until September you will see how it develops probably there more developed countries might have a better control by then|1 ill take 3 paws|0 No its really not these videos could be deep fakes or just made up by op saying this shit makes you sound like an antivaxxer|0 Hey Tacomite here So in February my cousins 2 children and my grandmother all had bilateral pneumonia Call it coincidence Beats me but I find it hard to believe It also caused my grandmother to be hospitalized and have a heart attack 2 kids in our household have just began coughing as have my husband and I Other two seem okay as of now but its pretty hard to isolate in such a small homeEvery where Ive been recently you hear choruses of coughing around you Her isolating is a great thing If need be Id be happy to arrange for my husband to help her out with supplies left on the porch of courseI would suggest having her watch for sx and daily temperature checks but honestly getting tested is probably the best option Ill message you local clinics that are testing I have a pic of the list that my doc office sent me through Fransiscian She can also use a teledoc for free as the cost is waived|1 I have a Mexican wife Knew nothing about Mexicans before her never even heard a real life Spanish conversation before her and Im from a very white neighborhood Never in my life have I been close with my family never understood the value of it Since meeting hers in Mexico I felt instantly part of the family loved and my entire perspective on the meaningimportance of family changed entirely I wish more Americans were open to understanding true Mexican culture|1 You are not going to lose the life youve known forever Things will go back to normal That may take a while but over time things will normalize When they talk about the virus being here to stay that doesnt mean that it will be this severe the whole time Whats more likely is that people will recover some will unfortunately die treatments and vaccines will be developed Since an overwhelming amount of cases are mild eventually the virus will run out of people to infect Things WILL get better Life WILL resume Its scary I know trust me But we will get through this|0 The mods already cleared my post Sounds like a bio weapon to me does not mean ITS A BIO WEAPON PANIC|0 I am talking about antiviralsfor motherfucking clairfication Im not the one who doesnt know what they are talking about YOU AREFungi are subject to viruses as well Not the same exact viruses but there is alot of genetic overlap in those viruses Viruses are very simpleGo do a google search and shut the fuck up|0 Bezos is ACTUALLY in a bunker in NZ Imagine that being your boss hes like fuck it im out good luck|1 Exactly you cant live in fear of being the huge statistical outlier Thats irrational and debilitating|1 No they have temperature tests not actual COVID19 tests Go back to that thread and read the newer comments links|0 This was definitely not on my coronavirus bingo card today p|1 So sad Would it be much different in another country suffering in the same epidemic proportions Our CDN city doesnt even have an ECMO machine and our ICUs would be overwhelmed|0 That was my thought exactly Stuck with your SO in a tiny room for over a week in quarantine definitely will lead to some divorces But will also lead to even stronger relationships over a shared traumatic experience|1 Why divide deaths by cases instead of recoveries Isnt it likely that the average case is at a relatively early stage of illness and therefore the cases that are still alive could still end in death meaning that dividing deaths by cases underestimates the death rate|0 No shit Sherlock|0 Ok 1 I dont think there is a cure for cancer since there are too many Yes maybe a cure for a cancer I reffer to a therapytreatment Only recently from what Ive heard some scientist discovered some kind of bacteria that could help with this I am not aure what it was but will give a link to the video ASAP 2 For viruses there is no cure only preventions and treatments like antivirals etc I may be wrong but thats what I know 3 Youre right We NEED a treatment so we can get some TP again Here in Romania from the photos Ive seen and some markets the people are buying TP like its their last day on this planet Yhe thing is the bars of soap are often left untouched 4 Australia truly got some fast researchers Props to Australians for growing this so fing fast I mean in only 10 days with collaboration we got its genome grew it in some labs discovered some forms of medications that in theory could help and found more ways to test for it This kind of achievement is something we could celebrate We moved at basically sonic speed compared to other outbreakspandemics|1 The most characteristic symptom of COVID19 patients is respiratory distress and most of the patients admitted to the intensive care could not breathe spontaneously Additionally some COVID19 patients also showed neurologic signs such as headache nausea and vomiting Increasing evidence shows that coronavriruses are not always confined to the respiratory tract and that they may also invade the central nervous system inducing neurological diseases The infection of SARSCoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals where the brainstem was heavily infectedScary but rare given relatively few encounter ARDS|0 Im Asian myself but Im not staying away because of the people that work there you just dont know when someone is FOJ fresh of the Jet and floating around|1 Im not as far north but here in Yellowknife were already getting stock up warnings in the paper from the health system higher ups Both the isolated communities and here are a lot higher risk than youd think We all lack critical health care services so we often go down to southern provinces for medical reasons hell i need to go down to Edmonton for an MRI in the next 6 monthsAdd to this the large tourism industry we have based on the northern lights where most of our business comes from high risk countries Its going to be a shitshow with further north residents travel down since if you want to get to Edmonton you generally have to pass through Yellowknife|0 Yeah a little because you cant bullshit the congress its illegal|1 Okay this is super cute and I feel like it highlights a really important part of our world today Even if people are being quarantined or self isolating or whatever were still connected Games like minecraft or things like VR chat let people still be social without the actual contact I hope people will start taking advantage of that instead of going out for the time being|1 South NJ here I work in Philly and my office is closed Stores were well stocked except for hand sanitizer until the past day or two and now our local supermarket is out of chicken beef TP and a lot of other basicsThe alarm level in my immediate friends and family was low to moderate a week ago but has rapidly changed Im pregnant and my husband asked me not to commute on public transit two weeks ago which felt a bit extreme but he was not wrong We both plan to work from home and not really leave till the end of March and everyone we had made plans with had planned to cancel when we reached out yesterday|1 I cant wait to continue staying indoors like I usually did even before COVID19 started ramping up|1 Thank you for the very civil and uplifting reply|1 Probably too late but they certainly should try and thats not happening|1 Was in the military can confirm stupidity in the face of adversity|0 Agreed its kind of exciting|1 Pfft you know what if Johnson follows Trumps strategy we will not even have increases at all they will stop widely testing some groups and let everything run its course|0 Mobile sinks are a thing Standalone things with a tank and soap dispenser think some builders have them on site That said theres got to be a way of making something cheaper We used to rig up a thing with a water bag and some soap at festivals cost about a fiver in bags soap kitchen roll and sanitiser First year we got fancy with a survival blanket so the water warmed really well in the sun It wasnt the most hygienic but it worked better than nothing Im sure something a bit better but still temporary could be knocked together to help Its not even just the physical washing its reminding people to wash Of course that first year was Leeds in 05 so the focus shifted from clean hands to trying not to have our tents burned down or crushed by falling debris Arctic Monkeys were mint though|1 Yes I think by march 1st people everywhere will be much more concerned|1 I recommend scrap the N95FFP3 masks In Britain they will be for NHS and police Who knows some may carry the deadly virus and still be asymptomaticrephrase as COVID 19 is highly infectious in its asymptomatic stage and many will simply be infecting many many others|1 But thats exactly what we are going to see in Seattle Maybe other counties states will prepare bc its comingThe nurses that are 23 months from graduatingI think they should speed up the process and get them ready Skip some steps and let them finish those in a year We will need all the HCP we can get|1 I remember watching that when I was pretty young me my mum just thought it would be SnowmanFather ChristmasThe Bear level Raymond Briggs Oh noAlso Grave of the Fireflies Christ|1 Sorry what I meant is if theyre traced prior to being out of the incubation period they should be quarantined Sounds like itll be difficult to do though Just as an example if you had four cases one infects 6 two infect 1 and the last infects no one The R0 here would be 2 even though we see a lot of transmission occurring from one case Itll be interesting to see if any work is done to estimate any epi measures on these ships|1 Who knew the supply of nearly everything your country consumes critical or not being from the same source will backfire one day Its like a having a single powerful enough generator to power the entire country if it breaks anyone that relies on it for electricity is fuckedThats whats happening here Decentralization diversity is your friendWe should be sourcing work to not just China but Europe India Africa and of course the US that way you can guarantee that part of your national supply chain keeps running all the time|1 Quantum computers work with qubits which unlike regular bits 01 can exist in many states simultaneously This can mean orders of magnitude more complex calculations for certain types of applications but not all applications like a general purpose classic computerOne area of particular promise is in fields like molecular dynamicshttpsphysicsapsorgarticlesv12112|0 So once we start peeling the onion we are left with very little true facts from your original statement CDC budget was not cut and cut request was not for this year but for the next year and it really wasnt even a cut but more like reallocation of funds opioid crisis fund being reallocated BTW dont even get me started on underfunded departments We all saw how Obama admin funded the opioid crisis response team and how effective it was CDCWHO recommendations were ignored for a good reason and it was a good call to ignore them etc etcBasically you using a virus crisis to advance antiTrump agenda and stroking panic into the American public at the time when controlling panic maybe even more important than controlling the virus Really shameful behavior that eventually will cost lives to Americans|0 Yes but theyre too dumb to accommodate Especially on Reddit I still remember getting a shitton of downvotes on this website just for explaining that young men dont want to have sex with elderly women in their 70s It wasnt even a political or sexrelated subreddit either it was a pretty normal one where youd think people would have normal opinions At that point Id rather just tell them theyre retarded and move on Lifes too shortAs for the name of the virus most people know what were talking about Especially outside Reddit Thats all that matters|0 Get out We do not know for certain what spread and the conditions of it yet I would not take my chances|0 Wow China didnt mess around They got right on this|1 Sucks you married someone do dense|0 i think its helping that they are moving a lot of people to the new hospitals or death camps depending on what you believe freeing up space for more people to get better treatment|1 Haha thats literally what I told my husband when I first saw this That this guy will soon conveniently disappear Coming from post soviet country heard of too many cases like this Hope not|1 The WHO are political fat cats that blow half their budget on first class travel luxury hotels and fine dining entertainment|1 Honestly this what we deserve|1 west and east coast yes Most of the population lives there However midwest people Proly wont see it much|1 Can you expand on that at all Traveling through Chicago next weekend and Im in MI|1 its what 5 weeks back to when they put wuhan into quarantine and 3 weeks from when they put everyone in quarantineso we are what 2 weeks from a few cities having it being out of hand and 4 weeks from it being out of hand in the entire country|1 link please I need to read that|1 Saw this shit on 4chan this morning Tricky thing about 4chan you get uptothesecond info and utter bullshit Just gotta be savvy|0 I would say to link one of these medically proven peer reviewed articles from this huge database showing the benefits of TCM to the sick but I am confident that instead I would get the standard answer for all charlatans and be told to look it up for myself|1 Im in the same boat And it is such an isolating helpless feeling Im so sorry you guys are feeling it too Love you guys please stay strong|1 Full force of the US government Its like a light shove from a bee|1 Isnt that exactly what your doing by making them go home tho Just seems to make sense to keep the young people away from old people College campus minus the profs seems safer then themInfecting mom dad and grandparents |1 I only care about whether people brine their chickens tbhBut seriously this Many news companies are owned by people who want to manipulate the facts Thankfully the internet reddit is our savior|1 Oh yea Well heres an actual scientific paper stating the prevalence of the virus up to 3 hours after aerosolization httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v1fullpdfhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v1fullpdf this is actual science Does it mean that it will definitely stay in the air for 3 hours no because obviously there are other environmental factors at play outside of lab But its safe to assume that your 5 minutes is waaaayyyy tooo low an estimate if in a contained environment they can last up to 3 hours Its not panic its science and sticking your head in the sand aint gonna fix the problem Nor is being cavalier with its infectivity and potentially exposing yourself and others to this virus|1 This is honestly the strangest thing in this country NL I am now sick as a bat at home Half my office is sick at home We had one colleague that came back from Italy 2 weekends ago came to work and got sick this past weekend and has been advised by her doctor to stay home But they wont test herMy colleagues and I all have corona symptoms but we wont get tested since we have not been in contact with someone who tested positive But the person that would test positive they wont test Like Shady businessEdit because for some reason i cant comment on the below replySymptoms high fever coupled with whole body aches Coughing coupled with pain in lungs when doing so also shortness of breath No stomach achesSaturday I took the brunt of the illness i was bedridden basically all day|0 And not only that our sick leave policy is a joke Some workplaces dont even give you sick days at all And when people are living paycheck to paycheck theyre not gonna skip work And thats basically all the people who handle cash and food btw|0 This is very nice Would be nice to show when the stats per county were last updated|1 Original response was super lacklustre Now the hospitals are overloaded|1 Yeah for sure thats reasonable I will try to get alot of shopping done today so if it turns bad Im ready|1 No We dont I work at McDonalds and we still have our lobby open idk what this is all about But i know what my manager is about MONEY MONEY MONEY Stay safe|1 How about diabetics under 60 Like 2030years old Do they need to do something|1 Thank you for writing a logical and detailed by reddit standards explanation|1 Yeah Im listening too thats what I heard|1 TLDRThanks for downvoting really helps|1 9E was a lucky fellow|1 Poor guy didnt see World War Z Israels prepared|1 Are you sure you werent watching SNLOk this is the weirdest timeline|1 Yet in the 00s we had 911 Iraq com bubble financial crisis a massive technological expansion H1N1 pandemic SARS etc In the 90s the fall of the Soviet Union Gulf Yugoslavia Checnya Rwanda wars There were three decades with flu pandemics in the last century I know quotes should not be taken literally but I dont think that one applies to this century or the past one|0 I believe that was the casein China People went back to work and huge amounts came back sick|0 Wait youre calling him naive because he said there are drugs in jailThe irony here is palpable|0 Really feels like people have a death wish Cant believe they dont think there is risk|0 The no masks thing got me as well Perhaps two weeks ago I looked at prices online and balked at paying 50 for a box A week later I looked and it was 100 per box That was the day I starting prepping I completely lucked out and found online that a nearby CVS had some in stock turned out they had just gotten a shipment so I got a box for normal price|1 Does he realize he might kill peopleJust imagine 3 elderly being dead because you went outside and caughed|0 I believe Vietnam was doing the same thing from the beginning They believed they dont have the resource to deal with an outbreak so they just took cautious measure I think yesterday they even reject an Asiana plane from South Korea from entering its border|0 Please make a parody to this songI had to do it for my 7th grade history class and it was the best shit Ive ever written in my life Id really appreciate one about the corona virus xD|1 WHAT THE FU|0 Says the assholes who did the exact same thing for months|0 Yep Youd rather someone sneeze and wipe it off yourself quickly than have it sit directly in front of your mouth for the next three hours while you breathe in and out Again thats just what the CDC and doctors are saying dont hate the messenger|1 Gotta get their social credit scoreshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSocialCreditSystem up somehow|1 Im obviously not referring to someone like you who has written a very reasonable post Listen its become obvious Im in the wrong place So Ill go quietly Best of luck in hospital hope you feel better soon|1 I am not talking about going back in time to fix it I am talking about this is a lesson for the whole world what reactions should be defined as too sensitive All stuffs you are saying is too sensitive is based the current knowledge about epidemic prevention Is the bar still true after SARS H1N1 ebola and COVID Shouldnt people think more seriously about the protocols of dealing with the virus in the very early phase What we think is too sensitive now may be not even close to sensitive in the future|1 In the budget proposal which hasnt taken effect yet But you know if the CDC performance as of late is any indication maybe they should be cut back|0 Depends on a lot of things If 30 become infected in the first wave then that could potentially result in a significant amount of herd immunity This could lower transmission similar to a vaccine In this scenario the health system may be better equipped as well due to experience and the lower transmission|0 Thank you i have been worrying about this since it started This post helps not only me but others as well and definitely more than you might think it does|1 My point is that we should focus our energy in demanding testing|1 Thanks|1 Noooooooo you have to stop them|0 heres the most depressing fact Millions of us are going to die or this will somehow blow over and Trump will like our savior and get reelected No matter what were fucked|0 You sound like a fellow Washingtonian lol|1 Correct The Colorado drive through opened yesterday and is free 160 people were tested yesterday httpswwwthedenverchannelcomnewsnationalcoronaviruscoloradosfirstdriveupcovid19testingfacilityopensindenverisfreeofchargeRequires note from doctor saying you meet criteria Thats the other problem CDCs restrictive criteria that make it impossible to follow the South Korea and Taiwan lead I hope all other states step up with similar drive up testing and increased volume asap though I dont know what CO test availability is currently It was a few hundred remaining earlier this week Gov Polis said Pence promised him 1500 kits I think Or maybe tests but probably kitsAlso supposedly Labcorp is open for testing but I keep seeing people mention they havent ramped up and will have a long backlog IDK|1 I would add something about the fact that there are only so many hospital beds and especially only so many ventilation machines Doctors in Italy are already having to decide who gets ventilation and who diesEdit in case its not apparent I say add this statement so people who think Ill be fine what is all the fuss about will perhaps consider that they have a responsibility to prevent their parents and aunts and uncles and grandparents and great grandparents from getting it There are some people who will never give a shit but this information may help sway some to accept responsibility for not spreading it to others|1 Give it day to leak to the press|0 I frequent my local Walgreens regularly and I felt incredibly blessed by them It also scared me like something out of an apocalypse The manager called me over and asked if I was still lookin for hand sanitizer and face masks I told her the face masks were really more for if one of us got sick to help prevent getting the rest of the family sick1 We have soap and resources but the hand sanitizer would still be useful if we cant get access to water while were in the car or something She was very hush about it and brought me into the employee area They had a single shipping tote full of hand sanitizer face masks and other items they basically sold out of weeks ago They just got a shipment in for the first time in ages and decided to let the staff purchase them and then theyd put the rest on the shelves She told me I could take two sanitizers and a pack of masks and that I should put them in my jacket pockets and not show anyone I sort of chuckled to myself at this but I thought about it and I realized there were like 80 people in the store looking for safety and security through preparedness What if they had known that there was a small stash that wasnt being sold but provided to employees quietly I wondered for the first time honestly if people would actually panic Would the tense calm of recent days suddenly explode into a demand for access to a product that most of us are scrounging for like its a life raft in a hurricane I remember distinctly feeling something like dread and fear It was absolutely surreal to me to feel that way I was standing there in a nice clean store filled with food and beverages more modern conveniences than I could name I had a day schedule and plans for the evening Everything was like yesterday except I had the sudden concern that maybe the veneer of normality was just a free bottle of hand sanitizer and a pack of facial masks away from breaking It was absurd honestly Were not at that point yet I think but there it was A clandestine exchange of goods of hand sanitizer and masks that carried an air of dont show anyone I honestly dont even know what to make of that 1 To be clear Im following the CDC guidelines on the masks Were not wearing them to avoid getting sick If one of us gets sick were self quarantining The guest room has been converted to a full adult play room It has a TV our older consoles and a computer in it Its fully ready to support an adult who doesnt leave the room except to go to the bathroom and acquire food Thats when the face masks will be used when having to interact with the rest of the house to avoid contamination as much as possible That combined with hand washing and surface decontamination is our strategy for keeping everyone else safe in house|1 Thats why I also included the UK in countries doing bad job read what Ive written|0 Albertans will not appreciate the full extent to how much they fucked up for at least another 20 years But yes they won the lottery and blew it at the casino|0 This I saw some dud yesterday say hed got atleast 550 for a household of 3 Like I get they only have like 4 hour effectiveness periods and are single use but daaamn|1 Corona beer I hope|1 The economy should be a key concern the thing is there will be no economy if this goes completely off the rails|0 So he had foresight and took a gamble He correctly predicted the future demand When he and others bought up supply manufactures made more When the stores are empty he will have masks to sell Its not pretty but speculators serve a role in assuming risk and improving supply Here his plan puts more masks into supply and saves lives If you think big picture the macro economics that is a good thing|1 medrxivorgcontenYes pls find and share that paper|1 It might be that panic is a stage that many people must go through before calming down and making rational decisions In that case panicking early may be better it happens at a point when theres less reason to panic so easier to calm down and one reaches the rational planning stage fasterMaybe I dont know Its an empirical question Some time ago someone posted an article about panic and denial as the two responses which at least implied that this is the case|0 why do you think food will run out of a month i have been in a crisis where all work was halted for more than a month in my country everyone was calm and once the crisis was over everyone went back to their normal ways|0 i havent been to the store myself since earlier this week but lots of people on fb posting pictures of empty shelves walmart pickup has no openings until monday shipt had one delivery spot open for tomorrow and not until 5pm its definitely starting to set in for some people|0 quarantine them INSIDE the ship when they arrive at port please|1 Where can I see the numbers day by day please Im more interested in growth factor than the absolute numbers|1 I have reason to be frustrated And I fully agree with you But the some people will succumb could be my high risk family member If the Dutch government doesnt take it seriously then the Dutch companies are likely to follow that lead|0 We can only hope for a repeat assuming of course youre one of the survivors|1 Still the inactivity of governments in USEU has been ridiculous given whats happened in ChinaKoreaItaly|0 Wait really oBuilding full of pandemic victims collapses after craftsmen do a crappy job Thats something straight from a George Carlin piece|0 This is exactly right You said it better and in significantly fewer words than I did I get that this situation is scary people have a right to be angry and theres more than enough corruption and blame for misinformation to spread around Im just not so sure that the WHO deserves all the online flak theyre getting People want somewhere to hang the blame its not the people of China its the government of China but theres no satisfaction in blaming them for yet another atrocity It just seems to me that the WHO is some low hanging fruit to take their righteous anger out onEdit spelling|0 Good on her and you for humanizing this tragedy for all of us People can be amazing or they can be dreadfully disappointing Its impossible to be both at the same time|0 After singing happy birthday to get your hands really clean dont forget to play rock paper scissors make shadow puppets and throw up a couple of gang signs Finally finish with 25 seconds of jazz hands|1 Full Disclaimer Im not a doctor just trying to understand this stuffRegarding smoking Ive heard two different takes1 The smoke itself is bad for your lungs and ideally youd want them in decent shape if you get this virus I dont know if that includes vaping or dabs but definitely applies to bongs joints pipes anything that burns budsflower2 The other big one is that nicotine interacts with the ACE and ACE2 receptors Oddly or maybe this is normal nicotine causes ACE to upregulate making more receptors available and causes ACE2 to downregulate making less receptors availableHeres an article on that subject but it would be great for someone with the right background to comment on all thisnihgov Nicotine and the ReninAngiotensin Systemhttpspubmedncbinlmnihgov30088946nicotineandthereninangiotensinsystemhttpspubmedncbinlmnihgov30088946nicotineandthereninangiotensinsystem|1 Even Japanese people here in this thread are saying this is a bad idea that cant have good outcomes You can find anyone saying anything you want|0 People trying so hard to circumvent being screened I wouldnt want to get on that plane either|0 Thats Magic Johnson in a wheel chair RollAIDS God damn that some ancient 90s playground jokes|1 My wife and I are due April 6 I just checked the hospital and it seems support person is the only person allowed in for birth so hopefully this will be the case for you|1 All the same sorry for bringing to work|0 This sub went mad saying that every death is a real person with a family so should also realise that every recovery is a real person with family and goals etc|0 happy cake day|1 Sustained endemic spread is what early watchers were saying but they were detained and silenced Ooops so now what Are Virologists in bunkers|0 Can I make what I hope is a positive suggestionFirst I am a disabled 19 years immunocompromised older American with grandchildren at home My Medicare and disability have already been completely cut off IDK why yet So maybe I can get a test if I get the virus but I wont get medicine or be treated by a doctor for Corona MS or any of my other illnesses Hoarding and price gouging have already hurt me I believe that leaders could mitigate fears and effects of the Corona virus by using their platforms to advise the public that hoarding spreads illness and causes more long term problems We could keep our families safer by using our energy to disinfect our homes and cars and for example go on a family junk food ban start an exercise routine walk bike garden etc|0 Sounds better than EMS wages|1 This is not news Its another lie fed to you Americans Your country is in deep shit The closing of the flights is so stupid at this point But everybody is supposed to keep on showing for work Your fucking country deserves whats coming|0 Man Trump really cant read I thought it was just a joke but no the guy really cannot read|0 The fact that the virus is likely transmitted through a median hostpangolins from bat to people same as SARS making the stop eating bat to stop the virus kind of pointless If we want to know the root of the pandemic we need to do some detective work in China even into the black market for wild meat and hoping the Chinese government didnt clean up any evidences which tell the true storynot saying they should eat bat Plus raw bat does not appear in any Chinese diet but if the meat is well prepared and well cooked it should be safe to eat like any kind of meat without the risk of catching any disease However the hygienic practices of the butcher is also a concern|1 well duh what is he going to do take it with him|1 Oh a total bitch to talk through Hahaha|0 They wouldnt even need to be radical to prevent most cases Would they upset a few idiots who say theyre overreacting Yeah but no one gives a shit about crybabies who are too busy with trying to get offended to care about saving lives|0 I havent heard this from other countries only the US because of the CDC ignoring the WHO tests and making their own bigger and better one Do you have a source|1 rCOVID19 is a place to discuss the science of SARSCOV2 not to ask general questionsYour question does not refer to a published academic paper official report or other official source Please repost including such links If you are not able to please post general questions on rcoronoavirus or rChinaFlu insteadPlease be aware that information you receive that does not cite sources may not be reliable accurate or unbiased|1 Clearly not considering you dont see democratic institutions of being capable of the same evils that communist ones are Read a history book or something|1 You know Im right If you believe CNN and MSNBC you must know about mental issues The Dems need chaos They know Biden will fail because of his cognitive decline|0 Unfortunately I question the news source I hope its true but China has not been honest about the condition and spread of the virus|0 My favorite argument that Ive had so far is the SwINeFLu KiLLed 600k PeOpLE AnD iT WaSnt LiKe THiS Believe what you want about this virus and the coverage But maybe just MAYBE people dont want that many people to die this time Its so annoying for people to make that swineflu argument and not realize that using that makes the point as to why things are this way now|0 I would take this with a big grain of salt BALBc mice tend to have pretty Th2 skewed responses so Im not sure this directly translates Id want to see what antibody isotypes the vaccine generates in humans versus these mouse models Furthermore their data directly show the lung pathology in the virus challenged mice is strikingly the worst for mice who received a placebo instead of a vaccine The vaccinated mice just have eosinophils in their smaller lung infiltrates So yes getting a SARSCoV is bad for your lungs Its worse if you havent been vaccinated Reading this paper as an immunologist if there were an experimental inactivated virus vaccine available right now I would still volunteer to have it|0 Americans have never had to deal with something on a national scale besides 911 There have been no epidemics civil wars homelands invasions state secessions major depressions Those were things that happened to OTHER countries or to our great grand parents way before we were born Things like that dont happen here nowadaysIt creates a normalcy bias that is hard to overcome|1 You can get sick with multiple things at the same time so it is not far fetched for other symptoms to be present|0 Tamiflu It only works on the flu Doctor just told me this Its probably the most accessible test method we have|0 Starts as dry cough Viral pneumonia cough fever lasting longer more contagious higher hospitalization rate due to the pneumonia higher death rate Possibility of conjunctivitis pink eye Treatments treat the fever as well as the lungs respiratory treatments inhalers nebulizers with medicine Theres treatments being worked on and I believe China has shared their info on best practice treatments|1 Gotta love the gold blowers|1 Its for sure not more than 500k|1 I am not a financial expert and this is not financial advice I trade currencies This is only my sole opinionI agree The market plays off greed and fear Up and Down The most heinous being to the markets and the underlying economy is uncertainty There is nothing more uncertain for central bankers than a lowly virus they cannot contain that scares everybody out of their mind and takes lives Theyve thrown a lot at this already and there is no backup Add to this the reality that China may not be able to truly bring production back up because simply they no longer have the manpower because so many people are missing This is speculation on my part But its the uncertainty of Chinas ability to come back to production is very real In addition I know that big banks move the markets The banks are the ones moving this market and shorting the dollar and stocks At present the DOW closed in the positive and this bring new hope We might make it but if this coronavirus continues to stroke fear and perpetual uncertainty Lo tis bad In other news Great time to refinance your mortgage at a lower rate I hear Im like a 5 year old when it comes to real estate but my friends are all hyped about it Some banks are swamped with refi requests|0 Nailed it Good for her Why risk it for a garbage check|1 Unless your health dramatically declines in the next week youre fine I understand being stressed but you need to see the scale of this thing the virus is nowhere near being an endemic presence in any US city at this time There are no confirmed cases in Florida There are as far as I can tell only voluntarily quarantined cases in Rochester not confirmed Even if there were there are millions of people living in these statescities The odds of you interacting with someone infected with nCoV are currently infinitesimal You probably have a cold strep or at worst the flu Take care of your health wash your hands go to the doctor if your symptoms worsen to the point that youre concernedI live outside Boston we have a confirmed case in the city I got a bad cold last week It was just a bad cold|0 Are you in France now managing this situation or just getting 2345th rumours to feed your need of negativity and fear|0 Seinfeld theme plays|1 Its like a Russian wrote this|1 Maryland is not going to give us any details Frustrating So different from the state of Washington|0 Well I mean its there Bioweapon so they know whats coming But just remember its just The Flu|0 Theyre not testing in Houston so its easy to release the numbers|1 Dont listen to them Its called Natural Selection for a reason|1 Possibly though I saw someone point out how much compliance there was in Boston after the bombing there so who knows Maybe were smart enough to know when the best way to protect our hides is by staying put and not having big gatherings|1 One time they did itThe transports sectorNo crisis no emergencyThe country was fully paralized and food markets could not get enough crafts trough air transports onlyAfter a few days the government surrendered to mostly all of their demands|0 Thank you for typing this out for me Didnt really think about stuff like sillcock keys or Sawyer squeeze but a quick Google search tells me how important they areYoure right about watching survival videos on YouTube I think I may have a couple of weeks left here before shit hits the fan might as well use it wisely|1 Well my city already does and Im not concerned about it The woman in Chicago seemed to do absolutely everything correctly|1 Whats that mean Diarrhea is a symptom of the flu|0 You disgust me|0 httpsimgurcomaZplQxOqFrom my understanding they are effective just not as effective but even more so if you use a filter I am making these so you can easily put in a filter Still waiting on my MERV 13 filters meanwhile using Honeywell FPR 10 Even paper towel is better than no filterWe need to get the whole world on board with masks They have done us a great disservice|1 From what Im reading that sounds exactly like COVID19 Fever dry cough and shortness of breath are the extremely common symptons muscle aches less so but still occurs Sore throat vomiting etc are much more common with the seasonal fluHope everything goes well for you take care|1 The stupidity of your statement might just have given me brain cancer|0 How long does the virus stay in an infected person How long does it take until the patient starts showing symptoms If the person is labelled as recovered can he still spread the virus Does the virus rebound after a while Also how long until the person is deceased|0 Well they did vote for brexit and then elected Boris Johnson Im not really surprised|1 No it doesntWho wants to wear a mask|0 I think this is the real reason the CDC doesnt want anyone tested Im guessing theyve known about this a lot longer than they are claiming|0 Oh yeah we are also stupid|0 If you didnt die it was mild|1 The calculated dG on primer3 are a little more than I would be comfortable with but technically acceptable for a singleplex testRegardless of that however they really should have done a more in depth bench test The number of matches in those hairpins and dimers should be enough to give ANYONE familiar with PCR design some pause|1 thisthe nonwoven fiber is key Masks typically use melt blown filters or non woven fibers as the HEPA filter yes that thin surgical mask has a layer of HEPA filter inside and thats what filtering the virus|1 They never shared sequencing of what they found at the marketI never said they didnt release a genome of the virus which was easily acquired by international cases around the same time anywayAt least the US didnt actively persecute people trying to raise the alarm Trevor Bedford was never muzzled for example Yes the US adopted dont test dont tell but so did just about everyone else except SK HK Taiwan|1 Bacterial infections tend to be far more deadly than viruses Viruses cause bigger scares because they have much less widespread treatment|0 Wow shit really is going down|1 Ohio has 4 cases Wisconsin has 6 UW Collages are closing but no word on if any K12 schools are closing Not a fucking peep from my district my coworkers laugh at me for being concerned and my students think its a hilarious joke I feel like Im taking crazy pills|1 pretty much everyone has the materials already to make one in their housesWhat materials You talking about basic cloth masks that only reduce the chance of sick people infecting others or do we have the materials to make N95100 rated masks at home|1 Asking this administration to selfimplicate is impossible With Trump weve seen how checks balances can be easily bypassed|1 Im so happy to have Reddit Its such a good source for information|1 httpsimgurcomgallerySCIemEu heres the latest bullshit in my community Facebook page Well I better not see these smug assholes st the grocery store|0 I actually cant wrap my head around some of the shit people say The whole The flu is just as bad if not worse thing is insaneCows kill more people annually compared to sharks Doesnt mean cows are now an apex predatorCar accidents kill more people annually compared to motorcycle accidents Doesnt mean cars are more dangerous to operateLike why is it so hard to understand Its so fuckin strange|0 People that fallow there own thinking are conspiracy theorists that think the moon is a projection on the sky dome so that people dont know that there are unlimited resources if you go past the ice mountains where the lizard people liveWhy not take the tin foil off your house and just trust the worlds best minds to tell you how things are|1 Im not saying it isnt still a severe health issue just it could theoretically be not as bad as feared|1 Theres no need for q vaccine for this virus The reason we need a vaccine is because its a blueprint for other versions of Coronavirus which this may mutate or come from another source Then we can respond to this virus more like we did in 2009Case in point H1n1 1918 results vs 2009 results See the difference|1 France is the most fucked of them all its still acting like nothing happened while all the surrounding countries have an increasing death toll Spain and Denmark are catching up Italy with 5 death toll of infected cases|0 Yes you are right Lets hope a study claiming the opposite doesnt appear tomorrow because I am getting confused|1 Im with you I dont actually care if no one believes me but like my kid is stuck going to school because you idiots dont think this is a real threat Its nuts Im keeping my little one home the rest of the week I am so over these dumb people The penguins took one for the team|0 According to the canadian government that is exactly what we are supposed to doKind of fucked up isnt it|0 SARS like other respiratory diseases such as influenza may have subsided in the northern hemisphere as summer temperatures rise only to come back in the fallThat was what is also included in the report Not the same wording but if you read the report its eerily similar to what is happening now|1 Its not fucking rocket science lol|1 Good to hear but are you sure about the million tests I read that was the goal but then officials ie not Trump said they were nowhere near thatAlso since a docs visit seems necessary to be tested is the docs copaycost also waived|1 Great idea|1 You can be angry at multiple people Trumps administrations response to this has been shit|0 Not trying to panic anyone Just pointing out the fact that in The USs capitalistic society a good deal of people have no choice These are cold hard facts Staying home wont make them any better They need money to survive I did not get the flu vaccine this year which is my own fault However I have had at least three different strains as there are multiple going around|1 Isnt hydroxychloroquine three times more effective against COVID19httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed32150618Edit hydroxychloroquine has only been tested in a test tube or petri dish Chloroquine has been tested on patients so stick with that for now|1 CDC estimates that the flu kills 56000 people a year Yes yet we dont have a mandatory flu vaccine how do you explain this Theres a consensus that Chinas numbers are way off Let pretend theyre honest Their medical system is so overwhelmed that they cant even test all of the deceased They can only burn them Many people have also died in set quarantineThere is no such consensus except on reddit and twitter I also have no idea where you think China magically pulled all those excess crematorium capacity fromNow lets be realistic Chinas public numbers do not match any statistical infection model Its too low They are constantly changing the rules on who counts as infected and whos died from it or from complications of pneumonia They have not they moved the confirmed infected but show no symptoms group of people to a different subcategory thats literally it Moreover they have a 2nd set of secret numbers that estimate that 25000 people have already died as of 23 This is literally from a photoshop thats been spreading over the internet for almost 3 weeks nowThats already half the flu death count in just one month Did you ever wonder why they put millions of people under total lockdown Did you wonder why theyve even blown up bridges Schools there are closed indefinitely I could go on but my point is look at what theyre doing and not what theyre saying Everything is not Ok China doesnt care about a few hundred people The CCP will wake up when its a few thousand people though You have to remember there are 3 billion in China who are tightly packed togetherChina did all these things because China needs trade to survive and it cant do that if everyone closes travel to and from China thats why its taking drastic measures Initially they also did not know that this virus would be so much less lethal than SARSBasically your post is half made up nonsense and half literally photoshopped evidence|0 I never implied to halt all production especially for essential supplies like food and medicine On the contrary we should be investing in ways to keep those running safely during these times|1 Self employed Oh yeah we get screwed just like healthcareEdit and taxes|1 So when are they going to start throttling and making us pay more|0 thanks for this perspective D|1 See rnipah and rcoronavirus both created by Chris Watkins common moderator ubreezehair both subreddits created to study interaction see link httpspureroyalhollowayacukportalenpublicationsrapidcreationofanonlinediscussionspacernipahduringaseriousdiseaseoutbreak549a08a633d647318435a49442a6b79fhtml|1 Guarantee big news out of Washingtin by the end of the week Go big or go home or just go home|1 Well probably end up eating the old |1 Wow the post title doesnt even mention coronavirus directly and the source is New York Times|1 Why has this been labelled misleading title|0 You sure Anyone call H1N1 outbreak American flu or Mexico flu Anyone call AIDS anything related to American AIDS was first diagnosed in USIt doesnt matter how you think it matters how Chinese people think alright|0 The repercussions from that might be worse|0 I have to wonder if the S type hasnt already made a run across America Its anecdotal but everyone I know has been sick at some point within the last month|0 Black comedy but imagine a postpandemic future where people can buy wallpaper of this|1 Shhhhh dont blow your cover LOL|1 Costco starts out at around 1250 14 depending on the position The do pay well though I was a meat cutter for 10 years with Costco when I left I made 2650 with 6k a year in bonuses Good company but full of idiots|1 Very helpful Thanks for the links|1 Hmm insert nation herefirst mentality causing all sorts of awful problems I feel like Ive heard this song somewhere before|0 The death rate is behind the curve You have to use the figures from 2 weeks ago to calculate todays death rate If 10 people died use the confirmed figures from at least a week ago to work out the death rate because those were the existing numbers when todays dead entered the statistics|0 This is just the dumbest take Ive seen on this situation Holy crapHow about you start testing and tracing cases like any competent country much less the most powerful country on Earth would do How about you sequence the genome and find out if theres been any mutations or new strains How about you use all that spying technology to trace everywhere infected people have been so you can clean those areas You know like what competent governments were doing OVER A MONTH AGOAt the very least let people know WHERE its spreading so they can practice things like social distancing Or better yet put out PSAs on how to do basic things correctly to protect ourselves like proper hand washing techniquesHow about doing anything at all|1 Empty words when employers wont support it|0 This needs to be the top comment|1 Its good in the sense you are ideally more prepared than others because of your own for diligence in research vs listening to what is being told to you by others|1 Or just nip it from the start If were going to do 34 weeks of national quarantine like Italy after were forced to do so because weve run out of ICU beds we might as well just do the quarantine now before thousands or tens of thousands of people die Once weve stopped the local spread we just need to restrict travelers coming to the US from highrisk countries and carefully screen all travelers coming to the US from lower risk countries|0 That is definitely not how it worksRural hospitals are poorly funded poorly staffed and spread out too muchRural hospitals are completely overwhelmed on the best of days let alone nightmare fuck shit like this|1 Im sorry but this is not really accurate and you shouldnt spread false info ECMO centers typically have a program where they have more than one or two Many do hundreds per year We will run 89 at a time just in my unit and thats with each usually having a backup machine in the room They also have access to rental machines in the case of emergency A typical ECMO case with a centrimag controller will have two machines PER case due to the fact that it cant be hand cranked to continue to pump like some other options such as a cardiohelp And we definitely do not cannulate carotid arteries thatd be basically causing a stroke Most of these COVID patients will be running on Venovenous ECMO the cannulas will be in a vein just adding oxygen to blood with a membrane oxygenator Most common that I see are cannulated with an access cannula in their right internal jugular vein and a return cannula femoral vein Some have a single tube in the internal jugular called an avalon catheter that has both inflow and outflow from one dual lumen tube No arteries at all are touched unless they have heart failure as well and cannulation is venoarterialAs a cardiac intensive care nurse still kinda scared cause we gon run out of pumps soon|0 also have a girlfriend immunocompromised and expected to go to work i put my foot down and refuse to go in if the prime minister of my country tells me to stay home im not letting work punish me for doing that|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Gotta laugh or youll go crazy|1 Ive heard folks in Italy mention that hospitals with too many patients and too few resources are triaging peoplebut theyre doing it the opposite way from what were used toWe usually treat the oldest and sickest people first because theyre most likely to die without help But apparently Italy is treating younger sick people first because theyre most likely to survive with help Sort of a dont waste a ventilator on greatgrandpa wholl use it for 5 days and probably still die Put the ventilator on that 40yo who will probably need it for 2 days and then recover so we can put it on the next person mentality Theyre reserving the ICU for people whove been hit hard by the illness but have a high chance to recover with just a few resourcesmeaning younger and healthier people That may be why the ICU you saw had a lot of younger peopleDisclaimer Im not in Italy I only heard about the situation in their hospitals from others and it might be wrong|0 Someone needs to tell all of these public health officials and government sitting in classified meetings that its just the flu and no big deals|0 No Last number you can trust from Sweden is 500something imported cases Sweden imported from Italy mostly sportlov At that point they still refused to test unidentified lung inflammations for SARSCoV2 Basically they said the risk of local spread is so low that were not going to test for it we havent seen local spread which we arent testing for so the risk continues to be low As soon as they do test for it they find local spread and raise the risk to very high oops too late to contain Now the official policy is to not test unless it is a severe case its already uncontained community transmission and were not going to do anything to stop it so why test for it Ridiculous Its not for nothing that Anders Tegnell is nicknamed CoronaBob|0 The media only reports the bad news just to get viewing time and to spread fear especially CNN|0 I am pretty sure it means spread outside of travelrelated cases and their direct contacts It can also mean outside of healthcare related settings as well|1 Data is flawed due to lack of testing Basically can we test enough to meet the standard italy has set Yes we can|1 Any recommendations on where to buy a larger container please My wife bought one from Ebay for 95 lol but it was massively overpriced and it looks like its not even going to be delivered due to the new no selling for ridiculous prices regulations|0 This website has helped me so much in grad school I hope it never disappears|1 this post People dont understand how censored China is They can remove words from any app so when you send a message with the word flu or sick or wuhan it may be 100 censored on the other end Only CCP watchdogs saw it and then they pay you a visit|0 Hahah thats quite funny to hear as a vietnamese |1 My wife is a nurse for a major health system in Colorado Up until a couple days ago she was forbidden from wearing her own masks and the hospital was not providing any PPE for workers I would NOT send anything to hospitals unless you are SURE they are protecting their workers|1 Im with you and my plan was to wait until deaths hit double digits but this is really close to home for me and If Ive already been exposed to this thing I dont want to potentially expose my family so i might have to quarantine at home|0 They really areI live in a NC coastal tourist area Its July 4th busy here Im glad we stocked up because people are coming down here to self quarantine Its ridiculous College are here not really spending a lot of money except at bars but spreading germs everywhere There are a lot of retires and they will be hit the hardest We have a small ER|1 Thanks dude Well hold on|1 These kids are super spreaders|1 It did work for me though I was rid of 10 years of suffering from asthma|0 This is beautifully articulated I completely agree with the points you state 30yrs old this December and I have never in my life known a time that we where not at war in some part of the world or where our government conducted themselves in a professional matter period The Kavanaugh hearings showed just how unprofessional that they are It was literally a gag joke I feel such civilian unrest in myself and others around me I fear the whole of the country will explode|1 Isnt that best case scenario though that it eventually becomes a watered down ersion of itself and no more dangerous than a cold Or do you mean the fact that its impossible to vaccinate against|0 Lulz|1 So should I change my clothes every time I come back home from outside and have a shower after grocery shopping I try not to sit anywhere outside or touch anythingAnd of course clean my phone which I always do anyway|1 Yay school might get cancelled|1 Weve only tested 6 people in Hawaii as far as I know Supposedly all tests were negative Its ridiculous how few people have been tested It didnt help the CDC kept dropping the ball with the test kits|0 There was a heroine called pandemic on The Wire Yikes|1 Well people do panic buy during times like these Theyll buy stuff they dont normally eat or perhaps have never cooked before just because theyve got to buy something and many of those purchases will be spurred by what some prepper told them they should buy rather than what they actually eatI dont buy dried beansthat prepper staplebecause they take too damned long to cook and in my usual emergency scenario postearthquake there might not even be a safe heat source to cook them on I dont like lentils or brown rice and againtheres all that cooking time So canned beans it is especially refried ones because I can eat them straight from the can if I have to Also people tend to buy too much all at once at the last minute instead of keeping a steady stockpile of emergency food and supplies and rotating it so there is always reasonably fresh unexpired food on their shelves That woman with 192 cans of Spam in her basement Shes never going to get through all that food before it expires or at least within the postexpiration window when canned foods are still flavorful and worth eating Thats not prepping thats straightup panicbuying Lastminute stocking up on things you know you will need and use as a crisis looms can be a perfectly rational activitybut when it is its not panic buying And panic buying is never rational|0 Jesus christ Its not going to end the middle east some of you people are ridiculous This virus well hit our economy and disrupt our way of life for a few months at worst but its not going to be the end of the fucking world|0 Mia madre abita a Milano attualmente ti sono vicino Cheers|1 I hear you I know there is a way to use 1 respirator for up to 4 positive patients granted the air supply will cross contaminate thats why you need to be sure they are positiveThat would quadruple the number of patients we could treat not optimal but it might be necessay|1 Personally knowing that if things escalate to that point that there are plans in place for handling the logistics of a mass quarantine would actually calm my anxiety rather than stoke panic My worry is our government not having that sort of plan as a go to and accordingly not being able to transition to it at the right time|0 mortages are suspended for now that helps a lot|0 Heres the statementhttpsroadburncomroadburn2020addressingyourconcerns recent information from the authorities in Brabant which includes Tilburg is that events of over 1000 people will be cancelled only until March 16This does NOT have an impact on our plans for Roadburn Festival 2020 As of the time of writing ROADBURN WILL GO AHEAD AS PLANNED|1 So we went from low risk nobody has this yet just wash your hands to hey EVERYONE has this theres no point in testing Is this how we avoid shutting down the economy with quarantine Just skip that part entirelyEdit quotations|0 People at my work a month ago why are you ordering so much hand sanitizer and water People at my work today good thing we randomly hand all this water and hand sanitizer|1 Because thats never happened in history and isnt happening in China right nowAnd this is exactly why being a college History professor sucks people are completely naive to the evils of the world|0 The time to have cared was before now Too long have we accepted the status quo Lets hope that whatever happens we learn as a people that a governments first duty is to its citizens and do what it takes to change it Republicans have blocked congress from guaranteeing paid leave so its clear there will be no changes made protecting anyone financially for this event|1 Theyre just playing ball like every nation does WHO is useless they know it and so does everyone else|1 The only good that can come of this is the rapid decline of Trump supporters The rest of us need to take precautions to keep ourselves from getting sick Ive personally stocked up on hand sanitizer and have decided that this is a good time to spend 99 of my time camping in the woods away from people|1 Ive had a difficult time talking about nCoV to my first responder friends mostly cops They dont have contingency plans They dont seem to see how something as trivial as a wellness check could become problematic Theyre treating it like bonus flu and theyll be fine because theyre young Ill be blunt I sometimes wonder if theres an empathetic deficit to that lot The notion of their parents or older superiors dropping dead doesnt seem to naturally occur to any of them until provokedOver here in virology and next door in medicine the staff have been talking about saving up sick leave PTO and food at home in anticipation of up to 1 month of business being closed We have N95 stock and are ordering some for janitors Were trying to figure out a good disinfectant for them because the normal formula appears to be powered by thoughts and prayers Were looking at extraordinary shift rotations for covering essential staff and IT is getting our dusty employees up to speed on telecommuting|0 Yeah I keep seeing all these morons who think the government is capable of determining who is worthy on an individual basis To think were capable of doing that in a short period of time is stupid|1 Im correcting bullshit spreaders like you 34 is susceptible to this virus unlike a 25 yo And this doctor still hasnt shown his secret data or sourceSeverity and containment are different issues It can be severe and contained which is what it looks like|0 Can you get another inhaler An at home nebulizer I got just slightly extra so that I can treat at home as looking as possible and keep breathing Obviously this greatly depends on your doctor and treatment plan and suggesting you keep extra medication is not medical advice just avoiding the public advice|1 The first case in Washington was a visitor to Wuhan who came back in the middle of January after the US was well aware of the outbreak over there and was not screened or quarantined Genetic analysis has linked these other cases to that first case Between then and now at least a month later now we find it in a nursing home The number of steps that could have been taken between then and now to avoid this is innumerable|1 Hope theyre both gonna be okay My bro lives in Chinatown|1 This will be the norm States defying the central Gov Its been going on for a few years now Say what you want about the Westcoasts liberal politicsBut they absolutely wont fuck around when it comes to this virus and wont wait for help|1 Its not Thanks for pointing it out Its been removedIf you see comments encouraging the harm of others or otherwise breaking the rules of the sub please report them so mods can review them and remove themThanks|0 Just a month ago we were making China so totallitarian jokes when similar megaphone announcements came out of there|1 Russia if youre listening please lookup how many tests regarding the COVID19 disease have been done in the USA Also Russia please find out the N California town where someone tested positive to COVID19 of unknown originThen leak this information ASAP Thanks|1 Plus add some noise Dont want to make that curve too smooth do you|0 Yep|1 Definitely wont avoid economic crisis|1 Whilst I agree to an extent if the economy tanks and people start losing their jobs savings and pensions itll lead to more widescale unrest if things got really bad You could end up with looting massprotests and a complete breakdown of society which in turn could cause more deaths than the virus its self|0 He comes into physical contact more than the last well many popes Its sad and I hope he recovers because he is doing a good job|1 And why would the stable genius dont think he knows better than all the experts on outbreak in the government and universities And so call the shots|1 Protect the Tory voters at all costs|1 The guy who infected the Japanese Cruise ship was symptomatic for 11 days before he sought medical attention How many people are misdiagnosednever goes to the doctor you think|0 I saw the body bags video from Iran but not falling people Then again Im not really out there searching for it so Im sure its happening|1 Do we know if the Woodley case was community transmission There seems to be no info if it was imported of community transmission at this point that I can find|0 This makes complete sense and I agree with you I certainly am not advocating for testing for coronavirus at the same rate we swab for influenza but it does make me wonder how likely or unlikely having both truly is Maybe the CDC actually does run a positive coronavirus test through the common flu test as well That would seem to make sense to me|1 Im self employed There will be no sick pay for me Im really worried about it My savings will be drained pretty fast|0 So fucking stupid take Americans pay more for healthcare than anyone else The hmo industry is an added cost They do not provide care or benefits just a tumor on the system|0 Nah in China they really did make people in other regions stay at home and not work Even now many usually very productive regions have most people sitting at home doing nothing I know firsthand because relatives there are still stuck at home doing nothing and I also have multiple relatives who are physicians thereIt did leave Wuhan but the Chinese government used a lot of the more authoritarian tools they had to track the cases For example they used their crazy facial recognition to track down people exposed to a known cases on public transportation and forcibly quarantined all those peopleIm not for there being facial recognition everywhere and I think in general the Chinese government is incredibly overly draconian about freedoms but in this situation they really did control it surprisingly well outside of Hubei Wuhan is the capital city of HubeiThis is just one of the situations where an authoritarian government that can literally weld people into their homes will have an advantage in controlling disease That doesnt mean we should weld people into their homes but we should step up our game in terms of quarantine enforcement|1 Conspiracy theories help no one|0 Um wow where to begin It has to do with the response to the pandemic not a love or hate for either country Virus doesnt give a shit about how patriotic you are China has mitigated the spread of the virus within China has widespread acceptance of how bad it is and proper measures are being taken to deal with it The US is completely unprepared and we still have people going around saying its just another flu lol Being in the US right now is much more dangerous re coronavirus than almost anywhere else on the planet except possibly Italy If you would like to be educated httpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca But given your response was around someone hating the US when concerned about a global pandemic I am doubting your affinity to scientific facts|0 Of course nations are able to make quarantine field hospitals What in the world do you think theyd do if this virus struck hereIf you are berthed in a nice suite obviously its a better way to ride it out If you have four people in a hundred square foot room that is hell after a few days But none of that is what Im talking about The crew live in cabins with fifteen other people in them the size of a smallish bedroom They have packed shared bathrooms They are making food for delivering and more importantly cleaning up after people who are infected If one of them is shedding virus twenty more are going to get this Its insane to expect these people to risk their health and lives to keep the wealthy passengers comfortable|1 My mom called me and said Dont worry summertime will kill it Also drink warm water and you will be safeWhat|0 I cant believe some people value rich people making money over human livesFirst cancelling the expo was the right thing to do Im not arguing thatThe expo mostly impacts small business owners that ordered literal trailers worth of product specifically to sell at the expo This is THE event for strength sports The expo draws as many as 225000 people Many of those travel from outside of the state even outside of the country Many of those have nonrefundable flights hotel reservations etc Many small companies like Massenomics and Grip Genie have gobs of product that would have sold out there There are even several strength events that happen at the expo that arent part of the Classic I personally have friends that had tables friends that were competing in strength attempts at the expo friends that had sponsor obligations to fulfill there etc that are all legitimiately upsetYes its for the best but its not just rich people making moneyThen the athletes competing in the Classic which I have many friends that are arent going to have their full support systems Theyre not going to have their friends and family there that arent competing doing stuff for them which can be a huge impact on performance and mental stateIt flat out sucks for most involved even if it is the right thing to do I wouldnt be surprised if a few smaller vendors that had booths end up going out of business as a result and many that will basically operate at break even for months to come as they have box after box of inventory sitting in their living rooms that theyre trying to sell online and at local events that would have sold out in a day or two at the expoThis is legit one step below cancelling the Olympics|1 Why is he sending help to a developed rich country like usa instead of poorer asian or African countries|1 That has to be infuriatingpeople have a fatalistic thatanos level normalcy bias|0 Highly doubt that there are more people infectedWhy would the government even say that keeping schools open is the best course of action If a student has not yet diagnose with heshe is able to spread the virus anywhere and school is a tightly packed environment What then happen is that there will be community transmission|1 Its bullshit because this isnt so bad here yet Half the population barely even believes this is anythi g to fuss about and calls everything hysteria on a daily basis Its stupid but it shows how little the actual virus has affected us at the moment|0 I have no evidence but my guess is the lung damage will be proportional to how bad it effects you individually Kids will likely have zero lung damage If you almost die then youll likely suffer permanent lung damage And everything in between This sucks for sure Buy PUTs|0 Twat|0 Wellllllll you did keep the wild food markets open when you knew this was gonna eventually happen No I mean you had plenty of warning events and still didnt shut it down|0 ya ZERO efficient You can still get corona with full protection Just ask the numerous dead doctors Hey BTW what happened to handkerchief guy I havent seen him in a while|0 PornHub is profiting from women trafficking and pedopornographic content on their platformThis is just clever PR|1 ikr Booze at a Taco Bell I want to go to there|1 Oh man we are so fucked|0 Charge him and the rest of the CCP cunts with crimes against humanity|0 Okay now its serious|1 You need some virus to get in before you completely start to shut down as the R is so high it is never going away The only way to flatten the curve is to get the curve started otherwise youll always be at risk of an epidemic|0 Do you seriously think that it matters who is in charge|0 This is actually a very legit point Surely nobody was parroting the bogus WHO pronouncements and low risk assessment in Taiwan after it became clear the organization was coopted by Chinas agenda|1 Only reason I was there is because my restaurant finally shut down and we went to a bar after because they wanted to buy us drinks on the company dime Good idea shut the restaurant down due to concerns about Coronavirus then take everyone to a bar full of people|1 That is one of the better articles Ive read so far and greatly eases a lot of my concerns It may be an adjustment for many Americans to deal with but I feel we could make this happen and it is pretty straight forward It gives me hope|1 You guys are fucking crazy with this conspiracy bullshit Iger has been trying to retire since for almost a decade he only stayed on due to the Fox merger and the board kept begging him to stay httpsfortunecom20160406disneybobigerpostponeretirementhttpsfortunecom20160406disneybobigerpostponeretirement Mastercards CEO isnt stepping down to 2021 so your argument doesnt work at allSalesforce CEO has been rumored to be retiring since last year httpswwwtheinformationcomarticleswhysalesforcesbenioffwillstepdownascoceoin2020httpswwwtheinformationcomarticleswhysalesforcesbenioffwillstepdownascoceoin2020 Nobody care about Uber eats its just a division of Uber|0 Oh its a fine screen name And even more so now that peoples lives will actually be in your hands These are the funny little things that make life interesting|1 You are right I just needed to vent my frustrations somewhere We cant prevent people from being careless though it continues to bother me greatly|0 Thank you this was very informative|1 I will be messaging you in 53 minutes on 20200305 154654 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003052015465420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19commentsfdtkv4dutchclinicalguidelinesfortreatingcovid19fjjqn6qcontext35 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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their correct cities but reply here if Im missing something or if you have additional information And again thanks for your help|1 Not even that even if it was 24 that would assume a 100 of the population got infected|0 And What could you do realistically about it If its her time its her time There is no way for you to know a priori if somebody is going to die or survive a disease Getting too worried about it helps absolutely no one You can only follow basic instructions like washing your hands and avoiding contact with personal objects from other people thats itThe outrage is unnecessary At that point it seems you are just looking to blame someone There is nobody to blame Diseases viruses are just that they exist Some people die because of them and some dont|0 Real question does this fall under general welfare I would say that general welfare is still being provided Seems that these are extraordinary times Very truly do not know if this is general welfare|1 Tomorrow morning Thank you Still waiting for all the reports to come in|1 The USA government has well and truly fucked its citizens same as the EU countriesHopefully Coronavirus is not the biggest news story of 2020 hopefully us westerners get over this Coronavirus situation with as few casualties as possible and enter a new phase of human history the IF YOU ARE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE PEOPLE THEN WE WILL NOT LET YOU GOVERN US phase of civilization The phase were we take the power back and invest it into whats really important space exploration climate change education and healthcare and not capitalism fake democracy big business fake news and war profiteering|1 And we can go see a doctor without going bankrupt|1 First of all good luck Secondly call your doctors call anybody If you dont you deserve to go to jail If you continue going outside coughing and all you might infect an old person or weaker individuals which could prove fatal Be responsible call your doctor Now|1 Wish me luck ima try to stop tomorrow|1 Here we comes another super spreader|1 Every high school in America has drug use and some amount of violence Whats your measure for this school being worse than others Any statsand its in a low income areaThat is unremarkable Half of all Americans are low income or poorhttpswwwcbsnewscomnewscensusdatahalfofuspoororlowincome I dare say half or more of all public schools are in low income areasAlso you didnt answer any of my questions|0 Gonna be an interesting ride in the next few months Why would the administration want to classify info They need to be as transparent as possible Theyre doing something that needs to be hidden Fuck|0 Im glad for yall They arent here|1 foot and mouth is viral illness and we have had only 3 outbreaks and focused to single years the prion disease you are thinking about is mad cow disease CreutzfeldtJakob Disease and hasnt been a problem for years and that only a few cases in cattle in the last 10 years which were all culled and disposed of correctly|0 Care to elaborate|1 Never said that trump did any Youre mixing the points of the two sentences together So do you support the current invasion of Yemen by Saudi Arabia and the war crimes committed by them|1 Thats a good point and its important to remember that PCR based testing is a relatively new technology The basic principles for dealing with a disease outbreak do not rely on having PCR testing Obviously testing is better than no testing but theres a lot local authorities can and should be doing while waiting for widescale testing capabilities to come online|1 Yes that is very true But I think nhs being so down under they will go for cheapest available|1 Yeah Nah Its a fucking concentration camp Designed to be as horrible as possible in order to discourage refugees|0 You mean like this httpccpfreecompiephp|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I keep forgetting the level of stupidity of the Trump administration and the people who put them there and the people who still insist on keeping them in power The administration considers Why what the hell is there to consider If you dont do it your streets will be flooded with sick people and the wealthy and powerful will be hit too And a lot of those wealthy and powerful people are the ones most likely to die men age 60 cardiovascular disease andor diabetes smokers|0 Im staying at hotel on the first and last day in Reykjavk and Im also staying at a hotel for 3 days in between that in Vik so I will be in the capital city for a bit But yes I will definitely make sure to wash my hands often and bring hand sanitizer with me as well|1 That is why they house arrested and disappeared the doctor whistleblowers|0 Robbery with a deadly weapon virus|0 Its only gets published on that site if they tested positive Thats what the site is for This is how we get info on new cases per day|1 Oh so she gets to decide what the facts are Nice s|1 So glad you posted this comment Ive been asthmatic my whole life and I was stressing out a lot about this Reading this eases some of the stress Thanks|1 Cant let the small business fail ya know|0 I think I am cranky today because all of my comments have snark which isnt like me lolHere I go snark alertPeople stop talking about human life more important than economical loss They are one and the same If you have global economic collapse al hell of a lot more people will die and not from this virusThe world has to balance those two things and it is never easy This is not a black and white world in which we live How easy to say life over profits I get it That just is not realityImagine when ALL trade stops Imagine when companies go bankrupt People lose jobs Trade stops Food shortages long and wide spread power outages no gas no medicine YOu think that is more survivable than a virus People would become the virus Everyone in your community would be a virus THAT is what is trying to be prevented so when they try to put some limits on travel and encourage people to be aware and take precautions it is the best that can be done If an actual outbreak occurs contaiment If containment fails other measures mitigation would occur If that fails it is REALLY the end of the world as we know it and you arent going to die from the Coronavirus You will die from your neighbor who wants your pills food water shelter Harsh true Really let it sink in and I hope you dont repeat the naive mantra of goverments over people again I have said it too in the past but once you see it you see it|0 60 million people are quarantined which has never been done in the history of mankind Countries are blocking travel to China one of the most important economic powerhouses on earth This virus spreads while the host shows no symptoms For up to 14 days It spreads while symptoms are showing It spreads while the host is recovering It kills one in 50 people it infects Influenza the flu kills 2 out of 100000 according to httpswwwcdcgovnchsfastatsfluhtm It is spreading faster than other global health emergencies have in the past and has killed more people in that timeframe than even the more lethal SARS and Swine Flu Although extremely drastic unprecedented measures have been taken it exists in every province in China It is spreading to other countries that are woefully unprepared to handle a pandemic This is an absolute monster that governments are trying to downplay so as to not cause panic This virus can easily lead to a global depression while killing off a large portion of the population You need to get your head out of your ass and start taking precautions because deniers like you are what is going to spread this virus faster than those who are aware|0 I cant tell if this is a joke post or not|1 im glad someone finally find the crucial truth beyond 80 are mild syndromethe next one is 20 find no hospical can take care of the infected then theyre dumped somewhere called emgergency camp without any medical care|1 This is us We have talked about how to help our tenants but if they dont pause the mortgages we have no way to help them Its really stressful|0 And they cant handle it the ER at my former hospital in one of NYCs boroughs was overcrowded on their best day with patients lining the halls I cant imagine if they needed critical beds and vents|1 FACT humans have survived catastrophic eventsFACT people did not need Chinese factories or technology to survive and thrive 200 yrs agoFACT infected nations failedFACT Micronesia is not infectedMicronesia has a better government who took actions early on|0 Virus party|1 While I understand the posting of funnys about this demonstrates a lack of empathy and compassion I would also say that some humans when confronted with something horrible and scary in this case a pandemic will make wise cracks as a way of dealing with anxiety Some people dont know how to deal with it in any other way Its a bit like people who start to laugh during an adrenaline rush its a stress reliever|1 Cancer isnt a single infectious disease Its not even infectious Its a spectrum of diseases and afflictions And there are many human trials underway for all kinds of cancers|0 Im talking about the event host Theres literally no way for the host to know if theres anyone infected Imagine being held legally responsible bc someone is sick at your assembly Where I live is not a communist country That would not fly here|0 I had the exact same response Absolutely bizarre|0 Its costs about 120 for an office visit for my wifes doctor and she has insurance Im not on her plan If I couldnt get into the VA theres no way I could afford to just go to the doctor for a note|0 Why would he care He has fired most his supporters in his cabin that appear to disagree at times Who knows I think this just a way to weed out those not under health care and the weak Its crazy how lax they are imo Its not just our country though which makes it even more conspicuous and seem more like a I hate to say it but conspiracy to keep us worried but yet do nothing Whats the point you ask Maybe because the war machine Maybe because they want us to die Maybe its just the earth trying to eat us and we have just destroyed everything possible to gain green paper Its all just some stupid simulation anyways|0 At least one fucking thing was learned from Wuhan Glad there is no culture of IV drips for colds like was claimed to be happening there I get it at the later stages though gets bad people worry for themselves and their loved onesStarts turning to fear and desperation|0 Just call it Sars 2 and CovidThink of the poor Medical students who will inevitable have to learn about that virus|0 Why is it going to take 12 days to test the freaking President but it took like 30 minutes to test Rudy Gobert|1 The trip to McDonalds to enjoy the taste of home is always a good one Surprised they dont have the big mac But we take what we can get Good luck Stay safe and healthy|1 Im knot sure I sea the government letting them get awave with that but ship happens|1 But option 3 is cancel and get a credit towards a future cruise which is what their website offers given the circumstances|1 I was wondering the same thing What is stopping them from ordering uber eats walking their dog etc|0 I find some of these soothing httpsmynoisenet|1 this earth isnt going to repopulate itself Im heading to the bar right now to fulfill my moral duty|1 Or a store employee Its really hard without a well thought our plan My husband made a plan with an inventory and spreadsheet to my amusement|0 learn to play basketball first|1 Only reason she was able to be diagnosed after death was because the health and welfare ministry loosened the Covid19 testing criteria just today or yesterday Before that change this women had no chance of being diagnosed|0 Partly it also wouldve highlighted why a state sponsored or single payer system has EXTREME positive in situations such as this Because thats working so well in Italy Spain France and the UK right Clearly there is more to the storySouth Korea and Taiwan cut off the spread of the virus by ignoring the CDCWHOs insanely stringent testing guidelines and retarded masks dont work propaganda Pretty much everyone else has failed|0 Interesting Michael Moore said on his most recent podcast that hed heard from an insider that the chances are 5050 that Trump has it and possibly the same for Pence Id say Trumps been reluctant to comment as he doesnt want to further upset the market and hes probably shit scared|0 Theyve been late quite often I thoughtThey were always pretty prompt in the beginning|1 I said that a year ago and people called me horrible for thinking such thingsDementia takes time to build up its not like a light switch Hes been showing signs for awhile|0 Keep in mind you have to continuously test the same people every couple weeks for that to really matter that much Im not saying the US response isnt incompetent Im saying that with a fast moving infectious disease Im not sure the math on wide scale testing like a 1 of your population per week actually makes that much senseI think testing is MUCH more useful when targeted at high risk people and healthcare workers and of course anybody who thinks theyre sick with flulike symptoms or has contact with infected people Technically the majority of those tests would have been best sent to the other countries that dont have enough tests for basic testing All the wide scale testing in the world isnt going to do muchit would be nice if China was donating like the millions of tests per day or something Youre going to be so likely to miss such a high number of people that its kind of like playing Russian roulette with your hope of catching people up in your testing net a lot of infected people would still slip through that net and thats more than enough infected people to cause a massive outbreakI think Its useful at first especially with a new virus like this where you need to understand how its spreading but in the long run when youre just at the point of treatment and containment Im not sure it makes much sense you cant really test a fraction of your population when any of them could get infected any day and think that youre doing all that much|0 I know so many people whos companies wont pay them if they stay home for 2 weeks|1 As a American I can tell you that I find this reprehensible As usual that is the mindset of our awful government leadership at this point in time|0 Member getting kicked out of your WoW guild for disconnecting during raids cause your mom HAD to call your grandma for a recipe she never used Oh I member|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Hand washing is key Keeping a distance Having someone else do it if you have a fever or are coughing|1 Fuck it lets all start speaking in metaphors to add to the hysteriaIts frustrating because its like when the death star blew up I knew the rebels had found the plans and the weakness but no one would listen to me nobody is going to take it seriously until it blows upOr orIts frustrating as it feels like Thanos is coming to collect the last stone Ive tried warning everyone to hide take the fucking stone and take it off planet but nobody is going to take it seriously until half the universe is decimatedGet out of here|0 I agree With that being said Ill take your share |1 Its actually 48 of closed cases have died nowIf you scroll down a bit to closed cases theres 62 and 30 of them have died with the other 32 I presume have recovered|0 Yes MERS a similar coronavirus has been surviving just fine in the Middle East|1 No I dont believe there are 15000 infected in Italy when did I say or even implied that I said whats the point of debating a few points up and down when the reality is this virus will overwhelm any health care system anywhere in the world with traumatized doctors having to decide who to try to save and who to just let die|0 I dont get it either It doesnt hurt anything to buy some non perishables and store them away If in a few months it turns out to not be a big deal and we didnt need the stuff Guess what We can still eat it|1 So a typical course of the flu is what this singular case looks like Somewhat elevated blood counts a bit of the shits some coughing and a 34 day period of feeling like shit and having a moderate fever I had that last year likely H1N1 and Ive had longishterm pneumoniabronchitis before A nonproductive 4day pneumonia sounds like a very technical sort to me but IANADJust speaking to specifically this n1 finedetail study The diseases appears worse statistically of course|0 Thanks Darwin|1 You can get a price quote from USPS and FedEx using their sites For FedEx it really matters a lot whether you use your own packaging or theirs Enter the dimensions and weight for the package to get an accurate rate For USPS be careful with the retail rates I was quoted a rate 130 higher at a USPS store than the rate online even though it should have been the same They have some issue with the way they calculate dimensional weight I was able to purchase the electronic label online and it preprinted Customs forms|1 And their PM underlined that speech by shaking hands|0 Agreed Its the only way and if I cant be I wont try|1 Germany did not ban it till today |1 I remember Monday two weeks ago there were picures shared about people panicking and clearing shelves in a Lidl in Northern Italy and the jokes about that Monday this week Italy quarantined its entire countrySo due to the exponential nature of the spread and the on average roughly 7 day wait from being infected to showing symptoms 2 weeks is probably fair to go from uhoh this is worrying to your healthcare system becoming overwhelmed|0 My submissionMy dad who is 60 and has diabetes is being denied work from home from his employer though he can work from home If he catches covid19 and passes away the blood is on your hands|0 This is really interesting Wheres that data from|1 We also eat very healthy and have never smoked and dont drink|1 Ciao im an italian boy Its an incredible moment here in the world We have to stick together and follow the guide lines Somehow is good to see the world have some humanity despite we are in a bad situation Is it right we show humanity in these accidents only|0 Best guess official claimsThe ship has been on quarantine since Feb 3 with people separated to avoid contamination on ship For now official statements are patients showing symptomsIf there was a proof of afterquarantine infection like the governmental agent theyd send investigators to check other reasons and cant keep people in the ship anymore if quarantine is proven not to workTheres no evidence outside of guessing and further investigations later can show another story like the HK building proved the aerosols evidence|1 Im going to edc in Vegas better not cancel it|1 Of course they are trying to frame the impacts of the virus but that doesnt mean they are lying to you Then this blog talks a lot of bullshit like lets measure the air to find out whether people are crematedor the virus is described like it would spread magically around infected people|0 Patrick Vallance lol behavioural scienceGreat for working out what happens to crowds in large stadiums not sure Id trust my families life on it not when they are partnered with known liars How about the USA scientists that have shown the aerolised virus to be viable in the air for 3 hours It is beginning to looks like your favourite worldclass experts may not be as expert as you think or they know better and have an easily manipulated audience Nudge nudge indeed Preprint but call me cynical or contrarianism or what ever floats your little boat but it is beyond stupid to gamble with millions and millions of peoples health you do what you want IDK IDC httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v1|0 Power and water should be easy to keep going Really minimal infrastructure compared to many other things Not simple but generally not too bad to maintain|1 Its part of the pandemic plan governments have in place Its to prevent panic and give everyone time to prepare for whats coming Take advantage of this knowledge and prepare while supplies are still readily available|0 This is more terrifying than the The Stands first couple hundred pages|0 Please see the irony before down voting I clearly dont think its acceptable Hence |1 Thats awesome Good work I cant imagine how those nursing home admins must be feeling right now|1 They are saying Dr Fauci from NIH that a vaccine will take at least one year to hit the market once FDA approves Even once there is a vaccine it will not be affordable for the masses and there will not be enough to go around It was so stated that there are NOT enough respirators to accommodate the sick Many people will be sent home from their jobs with no pay Many do not have health insurance This does not look good|0 Lol iran isnt a threat to anyone and definitely not two senior citizensMeanwhile your anti genocide posts unironically calls for genocide|1 Well the important thing is that I still have a good relation with my healthcare provider|1 Someone in another thread had recommended getting nicotine patches as a potential precaution bc they have some chance of reducing cytokine storm Thought Id share the info httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3592351|1 Lucky for me Im over 2 hours away and because Packer season is over there wont be as many visitors Still a bit concerned|1 Swine flu happened in 2009 not 1979|0 Someone please send this to my boss|1 Please provide peerreviewed sources for your claims you made in the title as per Rules 2 and 6httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19aboutrules As without them any discussion could only be speculative I have locked this thread until this is resolved Edit Unlocked as sources have been provided Please do note however that the failure of a single SARS vaccine does not imply that antibodydependent enhancement of SARS occurs in nature nor that there could be no functional SARS vaccine|1 Well no wonderWere all bored shitless at this point|0 No because I dont think there are people necessarily dedicated to keeping their jobs in these instancesFor the CDC they dont want to keep the jobs hence all prior action theyre following orders from above to try and protect the economy in a twisted way Its not a case of wanting disease to perpetuateIn my world they want not to perpetuate climate change prevention but actively destroy the apparatus so they can continue to irresponsibly use oil and gas Of they could define everything that doesnt fit into their energy picture Im sure they would|1 This would be a good time for professors to video tape their lectures making them available to registered students electronically|1 Good bad news thankfully not Coronavirus But I do have the flu a kidney infection And possibly pneumonia So not sure if its much better|1 Thats pretty much a sadist Someone who enjoys themselves at the expense of others|1 1047 Slide 9This let our lab guy to test therapeutic strategies such as hydroxychloroquine and other treatmentsI featured on a video speaking about coronavirus and now Im verbally threatened in every way every other night demanding that I take back my statement that choloroquine is efficacious I put in a complaint For the first time in my life on Facebook I was accused of supporting fake news and that the published Chinese data was false This was quite an interesting experience for me Anywho my video was seen 45000 times I hope they will continue to accuse me because it causes my video to become ever more popular and it entices people to actually watch the video and judge for themselves We shall seeThis is simply a reference list for 1 What are the guidelines for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine more hydroxychloroquine you can see what they did on the pharmacokinetic sideYoull notice that we dose this regularly Ive used this drug for 25 years and have treated probably 4000 people with this hydroxychloroquine because it was in this town where we invented the treatment of bacterial disease with hydroxychloroquine We know this drug and dosage extremely well 600 mg per day in this caseYou see this other data which made us alert people about this drug You see preliminary Chinese publications about the efficacy of chloroquine at higher doses and more difficulttomanage doses 500 mg BID Here we use 600 mg daily of hydroxychloroquine plaquenil You see that the Chinese published very early about the efficacy of chloroquine on coronavirus These are real journals they arent published in comic books you knowDont be too preoccupied if the efficacy of the drug is debated on television They are journalists they think scientists compete with each other like soccer players Im not a specialist on soccer but I know that some soccer players are better than others Some are paid more and others barely anything On the other hand we are all paid moreorless the same crowd laughter If you believe a reserve amateur soccer player is as good as FamousSoccerPlayer1 or FamousSoccerPlayer2 youre obviously wrong Journalists know this for soccer players but not for scientists And of course its on television these discussions are like bar conversations Everyone gives their opinion and its interesting but who gives a damn about opinions Everyone has an opinion on a subject they dont know about Its not seriousThe title of the article we will preprint online and send to a journal is Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID19 results of an openlabel nonrandomized clinical trial The study was approved by ethics and the NSNThe study was to recruit 24 people to see the effect on viral load Remember the default duration of positive viral load is 20 days1433 Slide 10Here are our results We included everyone who agreed Almost everyone agreed to participate luckily The two nearby cities of Nice and Avignon sent us data about patients that did not receive any treatment Therefore we could also compare our data to that groupOn this graph the Y axis is the percentage of patients with a positive viral load You can see 90 of those having received no plaquenil still have a positive viral load at day 6 On the other hand only 25 of people on plaquenil had a positive viral loadA result that halfsurprised us was that the effect of azithromycin For a long time we and other people often recommend covering viral respiratory infectious with antibiotics to avoid bacterial complication So anyone with signs pointing towards developing bacterial complication would get azithromycin remember that in JAMA theres an article that azithromycin reduces the risk of people with viral infectious in general Another reason is azithromycin in the laboratory setting has been shown to be efficacious against a number of virus even though its an antibiotic So when it comes to choosing an antibiotic we choose one with presumed antiviral activityNext week we will see what additional results we have But if you look at patients who received azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine you see a spectacular decrease in the positive rateEveryone that dies except those who die of secondary complications from coronavirus dies with the virus So if you remove the virus the prognosis by definition changes This is infectious disease You remove the pathogen you save the patientHere you have the right to get tested here and if youre tested here you have the right to be treated here We need people to process their thoughts Theres often a disconnect between decisionmaking and reality People need to think about what they would do if they have a positive contact with coronavirus and develop cough and but no fever yet Do we tell them to stay at home until they have dyspnea or if we were to test them would we treat themI hope that on the decisionmaking level people continue to think through this In infectious disease we diagnosis and treat If we diagnosis and treat we decrease the number of infectious people and we decrease mortalityThank you|1 Please government of the world Look at South Korea and copy what they are doing Mass awareness and testing Hopefully we can still turn this around|1 What in the actual fuck is wrong with people|0 Its goes through phases British guy talked how he was bad the good then bad then good through each different phase if you dont stay good you end up getting the storm|1 My employer will not let us work from home I am forced to go into Glasgow city centre everyday for work No one knows if well be payed for mass closure No one can afford to not get wages This is the only reason why Im going to work|0 So just curious seriously not trying to get into a political debatedid you have symptoms|1 Telling anyone will only cause panic Be ahead of it|0 PerisianWhite This would be the farthest the virus has gone genetically through humanity so far with severe symptoms Non smokers too is also very bad too Very bad news if true There are 2 branches to get from Han to Persian ancestorgenetically One is short and the other is long I really hope its the shorter route|0 Please do The businesses there are suffering And thank you Ive heard more about it from friends and coworkers I try to avoid reading the papers|1 Oh piss off You can run a successful company and accrue personal wealth without being a soulless demon Just because hes successful in life doesnt mean he owes you or frankly anyone a goddamn thing Hes just some guy thats better than you or me at a particular niche industry and he probably pays more taxes in a year than you or I will pay in our entire lifetimes combined Stop shitting on people for no reason other than to make yourself somehow feel morally fucking superior Like the people shitting on Armani for onLy dOnaTing 14 milLion Fuck right off Hell I got some overtime on my last pay cheque Do you want me to give some to you Because I wont I earned it Does that make me greedy Evil Unthinkable No|0 Not surprised|0 Its not even because were being reactive amd didnt care until it hits us like the US We have a plan and its been thought of for a while Its just that the plan is to get most people in the UK infected|0 Good newsYeah because exploting the unwealthy to a possibly fatal virus so they can be used as a test subject is such a good thing|1 Im due for an upgrade and i think insurance covers it but Ill be using alcohol pads from now on|0 Really wish this isnt true|1 As someone who if I came across and he was on fire I wouldnt even piss on him to put it out I still have to agree that most people outside China interpret this news with the wishes of something like a regime collapse and that can lead to deep misunderstandings of how Chinese people view the situation Which of course is dangerous for those of us that are not Chinese because we already receive little cooperation from China as is so whatever information we do get we have to be careful when interpreting it Im not going to go around speaking for the average Chinese person but its a safe bet they dont view their government or country the way most Americans would The men listed above are undoubtedly admirable and couragous and Chen Qiushis track record suggests he probably isnt a huge fan of the CCP but many of these men and women that are risking their lives very well may be And when they complain about certain organs of the government machine functioning improperly it is at least possible that they dont see that as a failing of rigid authoritarianism though I would argue otherwise but rather an individualindividualsspecific branch failing to do theirits duty properly It is also all together possible that many Chinese people see straighttalking figures and politicians as representing the CCP in a positive light even and that mistakes made are the fault of those that have instead failed the CCPThe overall point being in a country with a toothless constitution that fails time and again to seperate party and state the viewpoints many Chinese take to justify the narrative they themselves believe is indeed nuanced It has to be Theyre justifying something that immediately requires justification because of how ridiculous it isWhat nonChinese nations and their people should be considering is not whether this will cause a regime change which is an unknowable variable but how our respective nations should change attitudes towards our cooperation with China in the future There are lots of lessons to be learned here and many of then are not medical in nature And that it seems to me needs little nuancenb Chinese peoples views on the sitch are likely nuanced The situation itself I personally believe is quite clearnb2 This article while not providing the source material highlights how myriad the interpretations of the situation are domestically The language is a bit loaded and examples are of course selected with purpose but they offer a greater understanding Of note are nostalgic feelings for Hu Jintao who botched SARs more than a decade prior wwwnytimescom20200128businesschinacoronaviruscommunistpartyamphtml|0 Ive been taking tylenol and I find it helps with the muscle aches that come with horrible coughing fits especially in the neck shoulders and obviously chestsides I havent noticed it affect my fever much|0 My command just put out a flowchart today that tells us as long as we havent come into contact with a CONFIRMED case of COVID19 there is absolutely no risk Were also not testing anybody so work can go on like normal|0 Do you think smaller rural communities will block incoming neighboring towns or cities like some villages in China did|0 It was a chinese tourist First coronavirus death confirmed in Europe httpswwwbbccouknewsworldeurope51514837|0 Also illegal in most states Not Washingtonhttpsconsumerfindlawcomconsumertransactionspricegouginglawsbystatehtml|0 I just updated my husband that our state total doubled overnight at 3 AM Hes not a fan of me right now|0 Well this is definitely not from wuhan or from a different season also why did the dude in the left bring a pillow And why is the dude on the right keeping his head up|1 And you got this information how You see even deadlier diseases like TB leave scars but not really lasting after effects Youre just making things up and fear mongering|0 Several generations of no major conflicts refrigerated food microwaves iPhones Netflix and big daddy government have created entire generations of people that have never really had to think about survival in their entire livesThey have never had to worry about where their next meal comes from They will complain if the AC is literally 1C colder than they would like in their office no really|0 The WHO and CDC still think the case fatality rate is between 2 and 34No idea where you got 15 from|0 Thank God Everything needs to shut down because of this EVERYTHING|1 When it does those poor penguins|0 I mean I dont get what people mean by the US is a goner Like odds are we are going to rebound this Theres a roughly 35 mortality rate and even if 70 of people contract it thatt still only 25 of the population dying I mean dont get me wrong that many people dying within a few months will be pretty devastating emotionally and have tons of economic ramifications However people are acting like this is the Bubonic plaguex200BAs for the overweight part incomeclass has a ton of correlation with body weight If you live in an area thats mostly middle and upper middle class most people will be a heavily weight The inverse is true for working and poor communities Next theres age If youre young a lot less people will be overweight Lastly there might be some people who you see and dont think of as overweight but medically speaking are|0 Holy shit Ya dont say Im shocked Shocked i tell ya s|0 This makes me rageNot the slightest thought about grandma huhIm young and healthy but if I pulled some shit home used door handle pressed elevator buttons I would expose at least 5 elder neighbours one is VERY infirm and WOULD dieAnd they have their monday club for the whole building so make that 20 people over 70|0 Six hydroxychloroquinetreated patients were lost in followup during the survey because of early cessation of treatment Reasons are as follows three patients were transferred to intensive care unit including one transferred on day2 postinclusion who was PCRpositive on day1 one transferred on day3 postinclusion who was PCRpositive on days12 and one transferred on day4 postinclusion who was PCRpositive on day1 and day3 one patient died on day3 post inclusion and was PCRnegative on day2 one patient decided to leave the hospital on day3 postinclusion and was PCRnegative on days12 finally one patient stopped the treatment on day3 postinclusion because of nausea and was PCRpositive on days123x200Bhmmmmmmm|0 would be nice to know the ages of the travelers Considering its a cruise and its not summer it probably skewed to older than the general population|1 I recommend everyone take a tour of their local wastewater water treatment plant It is one hell of an educationPS even wipes that say flushable on the package are not flushableEdit fixed a word I had down incorrectly|0 Keep us updated on their condition I hope their health improves and they recover|1 A doctor in Bergamo just said theyre experiencing a second wave of people coming to the hospital people who werent old or sick before getting the virus They stayed home and medicated but the disease got worse and theyre now going to the hospitalHe compared it to the aftermath of an earthquake many sick coming to the hospital at the same time overwhelming the hospitalAnd they dont seem to stopAgain these were young and healthy individuals|1 Its not an unconfirmed theory its a completely baseless conspiracy theory|0 Shit I just realized that Going to a rally of his in slc Monday Going to say fuck it and wear a mask|0 Quite reverse China added people with symptoms but no test results|0 So when hospital is business as usual whoever is at higher risk of dying gets priorityThis used to be the case but its slowly changing In the past healthcare systems would have a patient be hospitalized and be receiving critical care up until the second that they died almost regardless of chances of survival Now its a more considered decision patients with terminal conditions who have a very low chance of survival are often sent to hospice care of some kindPatients who are at risk of dying unless they get critical care will be prioritized by the hospital But patients who are likely to die regardless of the care they get are more likely to get a very serious discussion with the physician It just doesnt make any sense to consume resources if it doesnt change the outcome or if the chance of it affecting the outcome is very lowSo to some extent hospitals and healthcare systems are already doing this kind of grim triage The only thing that will change will be the thresholds instead of patients with basically zero chance of survival being sent home itll be patients with a very low but nonzero chance of survival in order to ensure that resources are available for the patients who will benefit the most that is those whose chance of survival with proper care are the highest|1 They simply dont and refuse to understand protection is for themselves and the others|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 The odds of getting tested in US and winning a super lotto are same|1 You gotta be kidding me|1 I generally agree that its unlikely I have the virus However both Singapore and Philippines have had many cases of the corona virus and given no one around these parts are actively testing I think its far more widespread than whats been reported officially|1 Stay safe|1 Ya this is a common story both in Canada and the United States unfortunately Its very difficult to get tested|0 Interesting|1 Only if they are going to pay the mortgages the landlords have or suspend all mortgages does this make sense I know many people who own two properties They live in one and rent the other They make a moderate living but are by no means raking in the dough All of them have full time jobs If they were to suddenly lose their rent money they would struggle to pay their own mortgage and the mortgage of the housetenement they are renting So not a bad idea but not also as simple as it soundsEDIT people are insane Im getting downvoted for saying that people just shouldnt have to pay rent for a while will hurt a lot of landlords You people do realize that a big majority of landlords arent some Jeff Bezos type right A lot of them are lower middle classmiddle class people who cant afford to lose their income either when they have two mortgages|0 Yea and good luck tracking everyone who that unknown of people contacted and so on This is like an onm complexity problem where n are the untracked superspreaders and m are the number of people they interacted with obviously time infectiousness and containment comes into play but once the cats out of the bag its going to spread everywhere if infectiousness is high and containment drops n goes high A good clue that this is starting to take place is little hotspots start sprouting up internationally Then the lead time until the next hotspots would be 14 days for this disease I dont see how it can really be contained at this point without complete and long travel banshell it may already be taking place and thats why coverage has been slowing to prevent international panic|1 There was a time when you couldnt buy toilet paper in Hong Kong due to a rumor that they were converting TP factories to masks factories in China This idiotic unbelievable rumor lead to the wonderful people of Hong Kong to hoard TOILET PAPER in their tiny flats When I say hoard i mean that people would buy hundreds if not thousands of rolls of the stuff and stack them in their windowsills|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Thank you very much|1 Thank you|1 Its finger lickin good|1 Yeah they seem pretty aware of this I didnt even enter the hospital There was some signs and some tents that were constantly being cleaned Someone in a hazmat came out and opened the sealed supplies Had all my things done in that tent with the hazmat person They called me over the phone for any other details or doctors orders|1 Not yet but I will now Thank you|1 Thanks Obama|1 It persists better on cold surfaces I think freezing would preserve the virus Ive heard paper bags are better than zip lock because the masks need to dry out or youre going to start growing nasty bacteria|1 Thank you Is that specifically for coronavirus patients|1 US govt behavior related to covid19 outbreak is suspicious Since the very beginning Every normal country is trying everything to contain and prevent the spread and save its citizens Not the USA What do they know that we dont know|1 Honestly I havent found many people who believe the Chinese official numbers are accurate|1 Neil Ferguson said that for every death there are a thousand connected cases I have no idea how he comes to this conclusion but the guy is reputable|0 Wtf are you talking about It did indeed age well because its still completely correct so I dont really know what point youre trying to make|0 YupI just filled my team so I hope the economy doesnt force us to do any layoffs I like the people I work with|1 So you want to bankrupt a lot of minimum wage working people who wont get paid to stay homeSeems reasonable Poverty and homelesness never killed anyone s|0 Yep We were called conspiracy nuts for saying this sounded different than SARS or flu Now look|0 Sure it would be better if they were not limited but the fact is they are right now This is not different than other countries hell even Sweden for example has needed to limit testing to medical workers and people with good reasons to be tested|0 Another member of the asthma gang here UK based Take care my friend|1 Good reminder how incredible the Chinese people are I think little of the gov but the people are amazing how theyve endured this Thanks for sharing Your attitude is challenging and I wonder if the US could react as well within our communities|1 Smart|1 They wont be fine but they wont die either|1 ask them if theyd feel fine about being a potential murderer|0 Same Mother in law is a nightmare She is a social butterfly and will keep gyming and going out as long as they let her I have tried to warn her etc but she wont listen|0 No Im an ops specialist for the government I regularly instruct groups of 100 I have an office but the warehouse floor looks exactly like youd think it would And in government efficiency isnt a thing so we regularly have 2050 people working on the same project|1 This is my response to everyone who said its not seriousChina CHOOSE to stop bilion dollars worth of manufacture production and LOCKDOWN 10 of earth populationAnd china government love money as much as trump|1 If in Europe a doctor tells you that you are going to the infectious ward because of suspection on dangerous infection then you must go there and not leave Disobedience is a crime If you dont go or stay police will force you and you can end up in a prison hospital So everyone in the quarantine hospital at the infectious ward is there at the discretion of the authorities Currently there are a few people in Europe waiting for test results Here no one will hide at home because they have no money for the hospital|0 Its a beautiful piece of architecture and I took many pictures from the ground but Id be hard pressed to find a picture from the top that I havent deleted The structure is way more impressive than the view|1 Dallas here Declared state of emergency this morning TP isles empty in local stores near us|0 A very true unpopular opinion Nature has its way of weeding out certain genetics The thing is that its not the way you might like nor is it humane but it wont matter anyway Most people are delusional and dont realize that they are not as important as they wish themselves to be|1 Martial Law would be needed Then no more legalities|0 You can contact our Senators offices by website message herehttpswwwsinemasenategovcontactkyrstenhttpswwwsinemasenategovcontactkyrstenhttpswwwmcsallysenategovcontactmarthahttpswwwmcsallysenategovcontactmarthaAnd by phoneSinema 602 5987327McSally 602 9522410And here is a copy of what I emailed to both of themMs I am concerned that Maricopa County Health Department is not following the CDC guidelines regarding testing for COVID19 The CDC updated their criteria earlier this week so that ANY AMERICAN can be tested for COVID19 with recommendation from a doctor Based on the guidelines posted on Maricopa County Health Department website this is not being followedhttpswwwmaricopagovDocumentCenterView58495HealthcareProviderGuidancebidIdhttpswwwmaricopagovDocumentCenterView58495HealthcareProviderGuidancebidIdIt appears that Maricopa County is still only testing people with confirmed contact with someone previously diagnosed with COVID19 people with recent travel history AND requiring hospitalization and people requiring hospitalization with a negative influenza test and respiratory viral panel This appears to me to mean that if a person seeks medical care from a doctor in any setting but they do not require hospitalization due to symptoms they will not be tested unless they have had contact with someone confirmed with COVID19Our first case in Arizona was on January 26 2020 just 5 days after Washingtons first case and the first case in the US was confirmed As you know Washington is now having a rapidly growing amount of confirmed cases and its suspected that the virus has been circulating in their communities for up to 5 weeks around the time that the first case was confirmed Based on this information its possible that COVID19 is also circulating in Arizona The man in Maricopa County that was diagnosed on January 26 2020 is an ASU student that lives in a large apartment building on Mill Ave If he went to the store out to eat or anywhere on campus before being tested there is a strong possibility that COVID19 is already spreading in Arizona and has been for some timePlease commit to working with Maricopa County Health Department to begin following the CDC recommended guidelines and allowing ANY ARIZONAN to be tested for COVID19 if recommended by a medical doctorThank you|1 Not necessarily Not if it consumes resources that might be needed elsewhere later Not if makes it look like people are doing it for show No matter how bad it gets something is better than nothing is dangerous thinkingThat said I cant say my own countrys leadership projects much confidence You cant run a movement that attacks all expertise as partisan and only cares about stock markets and news coverage and then expect people to think youre managing things well So if youre frustrated with that I get you|1 the good thing is winter is almost over so the virus should go away with warmer weather|1 The thing with the masks is this if you are healthy and are at low risk it is irresponsible to use them as that could be used for someone who is in the medical field My fianc is at high risk because he is a paramedic in an area with a high count for COVID19 and theyre running out of PPE to protect them because people are buying them like mad If youre young dont have any underlying conditions and NOT sick you should not wear a mask However I do understand the concern in catching the virus because its borderline inevitable that we are probably going to get it|0 Turned away by GP because my fever was not reaching 38 degrees|0 Why are people behaving like that Its not as if Italians or Koreans or the Chinese people asked for any of this Sometimes humans are their own worst enemy|0 Ive been saying the same thing that all of the theories are just that Its speculation and we wont know until some time passes I kind of have a bad feeling this time though It feels different this time aroundPlus Ive always wondered when and what the FEMA camps and coffin were going to be used This could be it |0 Not reallyThere were people died without being diagnosed so they were not being counted in death toll we can not know the exact scale of these people now|0 Maybe we should gain new perspectives of how we grow as a race on this planet we cant fuck the rest 6 billion people and other species like this all the way to Valhalla Believe me if you see this comment youre the top 20 of the whole population|1 How much of these are the Chinese waging a cultural war I do wonder So much Chinese content getting pushed nicely packaged in memes and nonsense however it is there|0 Is this White House seriously incapable of doing ANYTHING right Jesus Christ A failure here and there is normal but they literally fuck up everything|0 Im calling the governors office tomorrow and the department of health this is not how you handle this situation RI Governor Gina Raimondos office number 401 2222080Rhode Island Department of Health 4012225960It also wouldnt hurt to call local cities and towns as well especially if you live in Providence|1 Why are you lying They are actively urging the private sector to send whoever they can home Case and point 5 minutes after the conference my boss called and told me to work from home|0 Yeah I mean if this doesnt get better businesses arent going to get better If businesses dont get better money is not going to be made If moneys not going to be made the market will continue to drop right I mean as you said if youre heading towards immenent disaster or something like it wouldnt you have to either fix the problem or get past the disaster before the market would just magically recover|0 Nobody gives a shit about your budget you little twerp what Albertans do care about is the fucking cuts to healthcare at a critical time when all our Doctors and nurses are going to be overworked and under threat Fuck the UCP|0 I completely agree A short exercise can clear your mind immensely Im so sorry youre physically alone right now Please PM me if you ever need to vent|1 So the man spent something like 500600 million dollars He could have literally just given every american 12 million dollars for free then ran for office and probably won|1 Has she looked for herself and seen any of the old videos from Wuhan and even ones coming out of Iraq or the fact about the 20 of people needing critical treatment which no hospital in the world will be able to facilitate|0 SO good I dont usually like hotpot but Qimin is next level|1 Were saved Wait No This is just rain Were doooooomed|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC539564 Each of these sanitary fixtures is fitted with a Ushaped water trap to prevent foul smells and insects getting into the toilets from the soil stack Clearly for this to work the Utraps must contain water However because most households were in the habit of cleaning the bathroom floor by mopping rather than flushing with water the Utraps connected to most floor drains were probably dry and not functioning properly The bathroom floor drains with driedup Utraps provided a pathway through which residents came into contact with small droplets containing viruses from the contaminated sewage These droplets entered the bathroom floor drain through negative pressure generated by exhaust fans when the bathroom was being used with the door closed Water vapour generated during a shower and the moist conditions of the bathroom could also have facilitated the formation of water dropletsGranted this was with onsite soil stacks instead of a sewer which worsens it still It was also worse with 2003 SARS because it caused diarrhea a greater fraction of the time But dried out traps are bad for public health under the best of times and are commonplace|0 Thats actually a really good idea with the busses|1 Yeah my wife humored me but refused to cancel engagements last week On Sunday I said something we should do And she it sounds nuts but you have been right on everything|0 The lady in Sanford ended up testing positive for flu after all|1 Awful news Poor kid I cant imagine how he felt Leukemia too|0 I guess maybe they arent trying to kill us all|1 Seems like old news This was posted March 2 httpswww3nhkorjpnhkworldennews2020030301|1 We do work in a paint store had 10 to 20 assholes come in and try to buy 10 cases at a time they sell them online for triple the price my manager has told me to only sell to contractors we know by name those guys need them for the sand dirt dust and chemicals that are constantly floating around them while they work|0 Just go to Costco Buy the 96 pack of granola bars I swear they breed at night Youll have granola bars for years|0 Bravo Standing ovation Couldnt have said it better myself Just do your best to protect yourself and your loved ones even if they arent protecting themselves as we cannot live peoples lives for them Virtual hugs and please know you are not alone with your thoughts experiences and conclusions|1 In my city we gather each Wednessday to do the raid hours Were always somewhere between 1030 players ranging from all ages some of the parents children also join in|1 We are never going to get an answer not from the CDC at least now that the CDC incompetence has been chained to the Trump admin If youre curious Politicohttpswwwpoliticocomnews20200302azarcrosshairsdelayscoronavirustests118796 has a long piece its like game of thronesedit I should have said CDCFDAHHSDHS incompetence For the nonamericans thats Centers of Disease Control Federal Drug Administration Health and Human Services and Homeland Security|0 Thank you But that is pretty far from me Close to s 2 hour drive But I bet it will be helpful for others who are closer|1 That is actually more or less already happeningWhile the national CNY holiday is extended for privateowned companies many cities have summoned all civil servants mostly CCP members to resume work early and help with epidemic control doing things like going door to door logging peoples recent travel history and such In some places stateowned companies also comprised of many CCP members are tasked with maintaining checkpoints on highways and checking passenger temperature Some of these companies and lower level government facilities are responsible for providing their own PPEs and as far as I know theyre struggling to find supplies as the market has been drainedIll try to find sources of the above info but I only heard about it from friends and family who are directly involved so there might not be oneEdit found news article about summoning civil servantshttpstranslategoogleusercontentcomtranslatecdepth1nv1rurltranslategooglecomslzhCNspnmt4tlenuhttpwwwtimeweeklycomhtml202001272661691htmlxid17259157000231570004315700186157001911570025615700259157002621570026515700271usgALkJrhiFHgIZG0N9aXrS1LSMcJk1EabLw|1 I think he was just making fun of Trump SAD|0 You cant allow a fever to get too high or your body starts shutting down Its why you want to take antipyretics in the first place|0 It may have Im not sure Hard to a keep up b keep the facts straight|1 Is there some way we can open their eyes to what theyre doing Like that post that was everywhere about standing with hong kong Make some post telling them to stand with their people instead of contribute to killing them Hit home and bring up their own families and loved ones|1 As someone going into healthcare this mentality drives me crazy|0 I really want to follow what you are doing this is cool|1 I am praying to whatever that its case two It probably means potentially tens of millions have been infected with this by now all over the world But it could lower the case per fatality rate to a fraction more soothing to the eyes and ears than one out of fiftyWhenever cases one two or three are correct everyone will need to be vigilant on this Its a new pathogen and its gonna be long until theres a vaccine|0 Next outbreak originating from China the world needs to ban travel out of ChinaSend the people aid supplies expertsBut dont let it spread Dont believe the CCP They will try to manipulate your emotions and use your own good nature and morals against you|0 Is the project public on github Would you mind sharing the link if so|1 I mean Im 30 and have the if I get it oh well mindset but its because 90 of my adult life I havent had health insurance so thats been my default attitude about EVERYthing Whatever it is I can never afford to take off work I cant afford the vaccination for whatever and I wont be going to the doctor for it Thats just been my life Of course I wash my hands and dont touch anything I dont have to touch and try to sleep and eat as well as I can Thats all I have ever been able to do|1 Time to become a 3d modeler lol|1 So theyve already had 5x their usual monthly deaths in a little over TWO WEEKS Its just the flu folks|0 who enjoys cold water|1 Look Spawn even if you are right and we need to give more room to timeline here that does not explain what is happening NOW We have patients in the US that have already been released One that was on a respirator As to not having all the cards no one is playing with the full deck at the moment because China has not given it out at all until yesterday So even if the US is an isolated variable you still have the other countries with massive population density that have had contact possibly with this virus for close to the same amount of time It would be stupid to think only those coming and going from CNY had or had contact with this virus Again as you stated in your response since November this has been out there So no I am not building a race based narrativeI am putting together all the pieces we have and seeing there is a lot here that is missing To not make logical correlations based on available data because it might make a specific race or group stand out legitimately is just as ignorant as real racism The point being you do not ignore the Math because it does not suit your PC narrative and be any less guilty of the same ignorance When I posted I was taking the skewed timeline into account Looking at other countries in that part of the world that do business in and around China Obviously the concentrations would be lower but we would still be seeing clusters by now and bigger than what is reported unless everyone is just covering shit up So not having ignored any information and not being interested in story telling as a Trump supporter who used his brain to make an obviously correct choice in 2016 I can still say the math does not make sense for this to be a nonspecific disease at this point That may change for sure but for now I am not wrong|0 The DoD itself was funding research on smallpox because its considered a select agentthere was some real concern after the 11 September attacks that a terrorist group could get hold of some undeclared stocks of live smallpox and weaponize it Likewise for anthrax and Ebola there was concern over their use as bioweapons and the US wanted a vaccine just in caseInterestingly the smallpox vaccine has proven itself useful though not for smallpox it was used in ring vaccination of contacts of people exposed to the related monkeypox a number of times Specifically its been used in a 2003 monkeypox epidemic in the US traced to Gambian pouched rats sold as exotic pets and later in cases in Nigeria from 2017 to 2019 possibly still ongoing the UK 2018 ex Nigeria and Singapore 2019 ex NigeriaIt should be noted the concern re bioweapons did have some legitimate basis At the time the Army of God a dominionist terrorist group that is active in the US and Canada had sent multiple mailings of fake anthrax to womens clinics and OBGYNs working at them and a month after the 11 September attacks there was a series of very real anthrax mailingshttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2001anthraxattacks that were ultimately traced to cultures from USAMRIID in Ft Detrick generally considered to be a major research center on the US side on bioweaponry though ostenably its for the purpose of biodefensealthough this was probably NOT connected to the Army of God network well probably never know the motive as nobody was ever identified as a suspect strongly enough to arrest and the only person of interest committed suicide in 2008 There was also some considerable concern about the biosecurity of exUSSR bioweapons facilities after the fall of the Soviet Union and there was and is interest from farright domestic terrorist groups in the US on both bioweapons production AND unconventional chemical weapons like ricin delivered similarly|0 They also saw Italy when they tried to do quarantine too quickly and the information leaked It was a mess of people cramming into trains trying to escape spreading the illness more|0 Hot Heads is around central and NW Ohio Dunno if its anywhere elseIts a cheaper version of the same thing like Qdoba or Chipotle but they also have proper hot saucePerhaps the reason that most folks have trouble with Taco Bell is because thats most folks regular and sometimes only exposure to Mexican foodI doubt its what theyre ordering though The whole menu is like the same 9 ingredients just arranged differently |0 damn that is not very Japanese like Usually they are on top of things|0 I think its more of a tentative date and if things are still bad a lot of them may remain closed|0 would make a great quarantine location aside from ruining the vacation|1 Ive said before and Ill say it again if this if youre first try a home birth but be ready to go to a hospital If youve had an easy birth prior to this home birth may be ok As someone who had a 42 hour labour that ended up in an emergency c section I was extremely lucky to be in a hospital|1 It doesnt I dont believe it was bioengineered but I have read enough dubious papers during the past 2 months that are quick to prove that this was natural selection This article is a mishmash of previous Chinese research and grabs at straws to make conclusions that even the original researchers did not make I do not believe it would ever be possible to conclusively determine the actual source of this virus but there is no shortage of individuals and entities that will tell us otherwise for their own purposes|0 6 millions Chinese dies every year from pollution related health problems thats 500 000 every month wuhan virus killed 1000 in 3 months H1N1 of 2009 infected 1 8 million people in 214 countries and killed 180 000 because MexicoUS took 2 months to apply strict measuresperspective is always important|0 Plenty of other articles detailing the fucked events that went down Take your pick from whatever side the aisle you sit on httpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtmlhttpswwwlivesciencecomcoronaviruscruiseshipuspassengersagainstcdcadvicehtml httpswwwwashingtonpostcompoliticstrumpwasnottoldcoronavirusinfectedamericanswouldbeflownhomefromcruiseship20200221ae58b24c54be11eab1194faabac6674fstoryhtmlhttpswwwwashingtonpostcompoliticstrumpwasnottoldcoronavirusinfectedamericanswouldbeflownhomefromcruiseship20200221ae58b24c54be11eab1194faabac6674fstoryhtml httpsthehillcomhomenewsadministration484157trumpfuriousafterofficialsallowedamericanswithcoronavirustohttpsthehillcomhomenewsadministration484157trumpfuriousafterofficialsallowedamericanswithcoronavirusto|0 Wat That literal quote is what I called you out on for miscalculating You admitted to the calculation errorHeres a new sourcehttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburden20162017htmlhttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburden20162017html 38000 deaths from CDC|1 That would mean the President would have to recognize or understand that there is a problem|0 I have been doing front door drops for a number of neighbors All groceries that I drop off are sanitized with 70 isopropyl alcohol except produce I bag it and leave a note to wash thoroughly|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 He deserves it Idiot|0 Thank you for the information and for stepping up to inform people I really hope things dont go quite as sideways as they did over there but its unfortunately too early to tellSlight rantTheres a few people in these subreddits or know people in China who are putting their lives on the line in order break through the CCP firewall giving us actual footage first hand accounts and scientific data that their government wont let out to give to people in your position so that you and the rest of our first responders are ready It infuriates me that people like that respond with its just the flu or treat it like the flu Are you kidding me We can prove shit hit the fan over there a month ago along with all the other problems this virus has shown so far and shit is being flung around Do you really want that here Me and a lot of other Americans really dont like to see people die from being misinformed rant|0 poor people are screwed no matter what price controls do not help them but everyone is better off when your doctors and medical personnel can obtain gloves and masks|0 Hi work in healthcare Were seeing people with no past medical history coming into intensive care Its worse than people realise Also we uk dont have full protective gear any more Apparently a plastic apron and some flimsy gloves have been decided as being enoughThis is a timebomb and were terrified If you can for whoever is reading this please make as much noise about this as you can Weve had to treat colleagues We need full PPE protection|0 My best friend works in retail She said theyve already run out of hand disenfection and most of canned food People buying A LOT more rice and pasta than usual Doesnt really seem chill to me tbh|1 Please merciful reddit Gods bestow us now with the joy that is toilet paper|1 Please ban these moronsAlong with the morons who spread home made cures take 2 lbs of freshly plucked poison ivy leaves and grind them in motor mortar and pestle to a fine paste apply poison ivy paste to your penis and stand in the evening sun on top of a live Alligators tail between 5 pm 6 pm and youll cure corona virus within a week PSA to people who read above If you think you can follow my cure suggested above youre a moronEdit fixed spellings|0 If people panicking then theyll have more control on what gets done If information is hidden then the government can act and spend wherever they see fit Information and knowledge is power|0 Well considering the amount of pending tests jump 400 overnight we are in for a whirlwind of shit|0 Stop considering stop waiting do it Do it right now|0 Thank you|1 Let me introduce you to Portland Oregon Schools remain open and kids are going to field trips via public transit We are having fun up here No one seems to give a damn which is terrifying|0 serious as someone who traveled through LAX on the 23rd should I be concerned Should I do anything|0 Dont forget all the indirect deaths from people with other health conditions who werent able to receive treatment because the healthcare system collapsed with no beds and staff available And the increased number of people who died from lack of medical care because of an increased number of healthcare workers who died theyll get a very disproportionate amount of exposure and will be overworked at that point And all the suicides from healthcare workers unable to cope and other people not able to take this anymoreMost people are really bad from estimating the full Domino effect this is going to cause|0 That and having a stranglehold on their citizens the economy helps mitigate situations like this I wouldnt say theyve handled it well since a lot of what they did could be considered unethical|1 We didnt get the kits We should have been well ahead of the game and cdc should have been better funded and pushed harder to get the kits approved to work here well before this hit hereAlso federal officials waited wayyyy too long to grant approval for hospitals to work on in house assays|1 No she was fully symptomatic actively coughing and feverish and very sick for weeks She was undiagnosed because no one knew she was a contact of a known case until her soninlaw presented and said assuming and paraphrasing hey guys I drive Chinese tourists around and Im sick also my MIL is in another hospital with pneumonia maybe you should test me Then they started contact tracing with people he knew who were already sick|0 Im also wondering if it really matters to massively test people I dont think quarantine will work at this point I think its circulating but most people have mild cases and recover If thats the case does it matter what we call it Were past the point of isolating it|1 That was the worst case model not a suspected number|0 Careful with that socialistic commie talk All men are created equal but some are more equal than others Its not my fault you cant afford to buy your share of equality pretty much every American politician ever|1 Its funny because if youre reasonable youre a chinese shill the only way youre not a chinese shill is if youre a doomer They try to run the narrative so hard This post is so stupid This place is turning into rcoronavirus|0 yeah prolly Im going to be infected in my home city now|0 Lets say someone who lives in a quarantined house with a sick family member practices good hygiene and avoids catching it himself Then on day 12 the sick person sneezes and infects the healthy personThen on day 14 the quarantine ends with an asymptomatic person who is 2 days into their incubation It only takes one person to start the whole thing up again|0 True that|1 I know I hate the governor doing that but I also hate it having to be done Who did I miss fucking|0 This is the answer I made a commitment to myself to only check this sub once a day at lunch time Looking when waking up or going to bed is a big nono Theres a difference between preparing and panicking|0 Seriously They should at least both be soluble the same way|0 I simply cannot describe how stupid that is You did a good job of describing it|1 thats why theyre trying so hard to influence the mainstream discussion with their propaganda its all over reddit and frankly im scared a lot of people will buy into their im your saviour thank me for handling the virus so well stance|0 I tried to find the quote but couldnt He said something like theyre trying to put together a longterm plan for China that would last beyond this admin|1 Well have a consumer debt crisis a mortgage and banking liquidity crisis an auto loan crisis but Im skeptical that there will be more homelessness than there is nowTo make someone homeless a landlordbank has to go to court and get a judge to agree that the person should be evicted to do that they have to file a case hire a lawyer wait their turn to get a court date get a deputy to serve papers exactly none of that is getting done in a crisisEven if it did get done or if people voluntarily left their houses who is the landlord going to get to move in Whats actually going to happen is what banks that serve Florida customers do every time there is a hurricane and everything shuts down for 3 weeks while theres no electricity and the schools are closed I get emails from all my mortgage lenders offering practically begging to work out a streamlined deferment where you skip 2 payments the interest keeps accruing and you pick up where you left off when the insurance has settled the claims and everyone is back at work The taxes still have to get paid at the end of the year so that gets amortized into next years payment They do this all the time here|0 I live in NYC for example which isnt closing its schools yet but my niece lives fifty miles away in a different part of New York state and her school is closed next weekA lot of institutions in the US are run at a state and local level and most decisions will be made at those levels so youll see more of a domino effect like school closures rather than one massive closure like Trump not allowing in certain international flights|1 knowing nothing about Airbnbs business I dont see how itd destroy Airbnb They just provide software for landlords to advertise their properties Its not like they own the vacant rentals If I were to go on a vacation Id rather be in an Airbnb than a hotel to avoid larger groups of people Airbnb can also be used for familys who have at risk people living with them Like if Im a nurse and my grandmamom lived with me Its probably smart to live separately|0 Waiting for the CDC a political instrument to tell you what to do shows you cant be trusted|0 USA has a Death Rate 10x higher than South Korea Either unitedstatians are extremely fragile or as we know not enough testing Expect the worse you can assume way bigger numbers than you currently have|0 Of course not You think it was a coincidence that it was announced right after his speech Dirty political bullshit|0 Just become a famous actor or start playing professional basketball and youll get tested right away|1 Hey a silver lining Trumps incompetent actions in slashing CDC funding are gonna hurt those Republicans who come out the most The Elderly sIm only half sorry if that is what really ends up happenning Because its what we deserve for electing that sorry excuse for a cheeto in the first place|0 What In my country we clear them every day during outbreak|1 The more people get infected the more chance for new strains to develop|0 Hard worker isnt great if you work your life away|0 Its pretty true they do all the research then us Canadians get the generic versions for next to nothing|1 Yes|1 They did act China and the WHO threw a tantrum saying that isolating China was overeating|0 I had to go to the post office today here in Ireland People in line where keeping a 1 meter distance from each other without having to be told I dont understand why the English cant understand how serious this is|1 Folding is still a thing I remember it on the PS3 I used to let my console do it every night lol|1 How would you react If you were in charge of the CDC and were faced with a fast moving and deadly new virus which would certainly cause a pandemic and kill millions of peoplex200B1 Immediately start testing as many individuals as possible using whatever tests worked reduce air travel from all locations aggressively trace all contacts from all positives publish all test results in real time warn the public2 Start developing a brand new test other than working tests already available from other countries add some extra tests for MERS and SARS to the COVID19 test so that its a three panel test instead of a single panel test only restrict air travel from China only test individuals who have traveled to China remove all test result statistics from public view repeatedly tell the public that the risk was lowThey chose 2 YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN httpsquillettecom20200306donttestdonttellthebureaucraticbunglingofcovid19testshttpsquillettecom20200306donttestdonttellthebureaucraticbunglingofcovid19tests|0 Even if it were I dont grasp how these people think it wouldnt be the worst thing ever if literally everyone had the flu at once|1 Thanks for your responseEbola and sars were not as nearly infectious and you are out of your damn mind if you think that the 7 billion people will be infected or even close to thatI shouldve expressed myself clearer What I mean by I think its too late to prevent corona spreading is that it will become one of the many diseasesflues that circulate among the population in the world Most of us have had colds and flues Young and fit without noticing perhaps and eldery with risk factors can be hospitalized and cared for This is generally no problem since its not happening concurrently but hospitals in Wuhan are overloaded Could the west experience a similiar situationIf corona becomes one of the seasonal flues will I have it within my lifetime Pretty possible Will 7 billion people be infected concurrently Obviously no How many is asympthotically infected meaning no symptoms Pretty unknown Will there be over 1 million in a few weeks Pretty possible if the spread continues as it is How high will the concurrent cases goWhat I mean by the potentially 7 billion people figure is that perhaps the quarantine imposed up to now was atleast worth a try and it does provide timeCar accidents still kill millions every single year world wide and are much more fatal in terms of raw numbers than coronavirus will ever be However absolutely none of you are making any sort of arguments against vehiclesYes The benefits cars provides outweights the disadvantages A lot of effort has been put into minimizing the risks and hence people are not generally complaining since they are aware of the risks and the benefits If we compare cars to corona however what are the benefits with coronaShutting down the entire US like this sub is proposing is the complete opposite of reducing stressJust like you say its not realistic to shut down entire US or Europe for that matter but at the same time we have to ask what measures are reasonableNorthern Italy have quarantiened 11 towns because of an unfortunate outbreak Is this reasonable according to youIf there were a couple of towns in the US that showed a drastic increase of infected would it be reasonable to impose restrictions regarding travel local schools and work to reduce spread and concurrent casesWhat do you think is the best way of dealing with corona given the current situation You know not shutting down the biggest economy in the worldYes That youve made clear So would you have zero measures taken or something in between I think if you could describe what balance youre looking for and why primarly when you respond to other posters because this comment thread is too deep I think others might be more accepting of your critique|0 Free enterprise produced every single mask empathy produced none But as long as you feel good Just dont look over at the people dying because of the shortage caused by people like you|1 Dont worry Comrade uCCPJunkie will make sure the future of this sub remains within compliance|1 Shes got a coil in the chance is slim Got a boy and a girl so thatll do |1 Incredible guys giving us their parking lots|1 I have traveled to Italy many times in my life and really enjoyed it each and every time Such a beautiful and fun country to visit Hang in there friend you will get through this and just imagine the Italian pride that you and your fellow Italians will have once this is over Light at the end of the tunnel|1 she isnt really able to work from home her job wont let her work from home with pay and according to her she would have to use her personal days to be at home but she doesnt have enough because were supposed to go on a trip in july|0 thank you |1 Welcome to my world|1 Starting tomorrow I will be comparing it to the swine flu outbreak of 2009|0 Its your job not the governments Stop it|1 You should be grateful I was just told by my boss to stay home until further notice wo pay I have yet to see anything about the stimulus package that is supposed to help us pay our bills|1 Interesting|1 Ohhh thats really smart Ill do that thank you so much D|1 People do forget the importance of getting the proper vitamins and minerals I have been slowly prepping for the last 6 weeks I have 3 growing teens to feed Lots of frozen vegetables fruit and meat Canned goods pancake mixes and full water jugs Cleaning supplies personal hygiene products and snack foods to keep my kids calories up I have also spent the last 6 weeks slowly dropping calories out of my daily eating|1 Im grateful for whats being done so far but tbh as a childless single person living on her own this sort of thing is always a bit frustrating Theres just never enough support for the middleclass that dont have children I hope rent legislation goes throughsomething similar to mortgagesbecause theres a lot of us who dont own a house but are still responsible for having to pay our rent Which is going to get increasingly difficult as people are forced to stop working EI and the like wont cover everything|0 Same with us We were going to fly into San Fran and stay in Sonoma Big pain in the rear|0 Because its ineffective|0 was wondering why it was so difficult to arrange a FB marketplace deal was frustrated started ranting about Karen look down her name is actually karen|0 yes anyone who traveled there in the past 14 days|1 And dont forget to pop into the store and buy something while your there getting tested Its not like Wal Mart could have done anything to help its employees s|1 Would you cut it This is no vaccine for this virus SMH|0 Man this was going to be a good year for movies too I swear to God we still better get that dune movie|1 Yep Civil society is just a thin facade|1 Honestly im kinda confused on what to do Been coughing for exactly a week now I have been alarmed the first day i had a cough so i waited for another symptom to show before i get tested but its just plain cough I had like a flight and was contemplating to cancel it but it seems that i really only have a cough No headaches no chills not even throat pains or short breaths But i dont even know the cause of my cough|0 Well the linked article is in Portuguese and I cant read it The headline is a little misleading I also assumed that he hugged the US congress Especially since Trump and other congress members met the Brazilian president in MaraLago recently|1 Oh god Im in Montgomery County and I cant believe they didnt shut this shit down in Philly We are so fucked|0 Take super good care of yourself Eat well Dont eat a lot of sugar Stay hydrated Get good sleep Your general health can mean the difference between having it as a pain in the ass flu symptoms incident vs hoping for a hospital bed|1 GameStop is the next company to be boycotted|0 Man if you cant see how his personal attacks and condescending demeanor are dickish I dont know what to tell you|0 Oh no trust me if this gets bad here and the gov CDC did fuck all to help us after how much they already extort our asses people are gonna get really fucking pissed really fucking fast finally question why those piece of shits exist in the first place|0 more like thanks voters|1 Im so sorry that your manager is like that Im a grocery manager and Im out there throwing load my store manager and assistant store manager are also throwing load 10 hours a day with us Im going in with my mask and Im hoping the store manager respects that since Im on immunosuppressants |1 I feel so badly for those who stayed bc of family members who had already tested positive and were separated I gotta admit that would be a hard decision to make If my husband or kid had tested positive and sent to a Japanese hospital it would be very hard for me to get on a plane and come home My heart goes out to all of these people|1 I guess they finally found a company ownered by someone with the correct political connections and history of contributions that deserves government moneyI feel sick even typing that|0 Scenario 1 you have it Since you only have mild symptoms you are lucky and it will be over soon avoid social interactionScenario 2 you dont have it Make sure you dont catch and spread it avoid social interactionIn fact if catching it is unavoidable getting it now might be preferable while there are still hospital beds available|1 My extra stock consists of canned goods such as tuna chicken beef and vienna sausages Canned chili baked beans nuts rice soups peanut butter jelly crackers cereal vitamins dried and condensed milk all kinds of canned vegetables and fruits This is in addition to our usual stock of fresh food which I top off weekly All of the canned goods can be eaten without cooking if it comes to that|1 To be clear beta blockers are a category of medication of which propanolol is the most common drug Theyre the same thing|1 DeWine of Ohio has really been great through this Hes been honest imagine that about the likelihood of it getting much worse data driven with decisions and preemptive with closures His other policies might suck but hes actually led on this|1 Right now is the second best time to catch it Infecting yourself would be acting at leastBest is once they have a reliable cure if that happensWorst is in a month or so|1 The fact he was young and healthy and still got that sick doesnt bode well for those who either very young elderly or have other compromised systems|0 His primary job is to protect his family and is actively putting you at risk Even if he doesnt take it seriously himself he could stay with a friend etc for a while just to alley your fears Thats what someone who cared about you would do|1 500k is very low if that were the case 3 million is perfectly reasonable|1 Amazon has plenty as of Tuesday when I last checked|1 People dont simply get the virus and recover Some are presenting with scarred lungs teste and cardiovascular damage To say the virus either kills you or doesnt is false And then theres reinfection|0 My thought are that he is very quite after his Iran remarks seems someone talked some sence into him about his speculations Do i think he should backoff I dunno the general public would freak out even if he would have been even more cautious in the way he brought it We live in a strange world|0 Thats my issue with it After 3 weeks the virus will still be around and then what At least they are being proactive somehow|1 Thats why its important to shut things down now The goal now is to slow the spread so that throughout the rest of the year we are able to deal with it better China has seen a drastic reduction in cases in just one month Theyre down to 14000 active cases from 58000 a month agoNow its a balancing act of how do you restart the economy and make sure day to day things can happen but to keep things controlled|1 When this blows over there will be a gap in the market and a new company will fill it that is capitalismProbably foreign airlines that received support from their governments|1 Ive been sharing OSHA training videos on all the CoVID19Coronavirus subs Everyone can learn how to properly wear and use PPE Its really a lot of common senseLink to the training videoshttpswwwoshagovSLTCrespiratoryprotectiontrainingvideoshtml these are used for EMTEMS staff trainings|1 Annddddd if they go hand in hand|1 I dont understand why cancelled classes means the kids need to leave their dorms and come home sometimes many states away A lot of them are flying too Its nonsensical and stupid My son has a friend who flew into SeaTac tonight Normally theyd hang when he comes home but not this time My son takes this seriously and wont be leaving home anytime soon But his friends think its time to party|1 I understand and I think its good it has a more specific havethough it anyways did have one just harder to pronounce but right now if you say the coronavirus its fair to expect you are referring to the ongoing outbreak one not a different one|1 Your life is literally no worse than it was 5 years agoAnd if it is its not because trump is in officeFor real Stop with this perpetual victimhood shit Its getting so old Grow up already|0 I know it had to be doneBut I thought there was something so profoundly sad about the announcement that I cant put into words Education is the foundation of our country Its such a precious gift|1 when you have that much money it doesnt really matter how long it take eventually things will go back up controlling amounts of stock have been acquired for far far less than 6 months ago|0 Not true at allI am not aware of a single MSM reporting 1K partners even in San Francisco before the bath houses were closed Its fair to call gay men in the area at the time promiscuous but Jesus Christ they werent sexual superheroesThe flight attendants name is Gaetan Dugas and he did not have sex with a few thousand people He is important to the early pandemic because he was a flight attendant having sex with multiple people internationally Dude was a total piece of shit dont get me wrong But the claim that he is any type of patient zero has been disproven multiple timesIm also unaware of a behavioral component to super spreader determination in the SARS outbreak Can you elaborate|1 You must be one of those Compassionate Conservatives I keep hearing about|1 I had a nasty cold that just wouldnt go away it lasted 2 weeks and I got sick again after a week of feel better I have a feeling a lot of us may have already had it|0 depending on the job but in general id say yes its pretty normal for office workers to take a 30minhour nap in the afternoon and people are less likely to work insane overtime hoursthis is talking about white collar jobs though id say blue collar work is probably just as rough if not more so due to lack of regulation but this isnt middle class anymore its the lower class doing this|0 Not as far as Ive heard but if streets are sprayed with whoknowswhat like Chinas were I think keeping them in is best just in case Hopefully advance notice will be given if that ever happens here|1 Well not every military branch is in the DOD so its slightly misleading|0 My best guess is Chinese data is skewed due to their testing criteria According to a studyhttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2002032 based on early Chinese 1099 patients confirmed before Jan 29 9109 9721067 of COVID19 patients received a diagnosis of pneumonia from a physician This unusually high ratio of pneumonia suggests that a sign of pneumonia was probably one of their diagnostictesting criterias in their case definition If they only tested someone with pneumonia then its no wonder why they missed a lot of mild cases without pneumonia let alone asymptomatic casesChina sc ratio keep hovering around 19 to this date cfr kept hovering between 23 for a while before it started to increase over 3 in late Febdatedeathssevere criticalconfirmedcfrsc ratioJan 216632782162266Jan 226633091942039Jan 2317955712981664Jan 24251778303012133Jan 254123612973161820Jan 265632419852821632Jan 278046127412921682Jan 2810697645372342151Jan 29132123959972202066Jan 30170137077362201771Jan 31213152797202191571 severecritical ratio is around 31 to 41 Severe Critical Confirmed Recovered Severe was characterized by dyspnea respiratory frequency 30minute blood oxygen saturation 93 PaO2FiO2 ratio 300 andor lung infiltrates 50 within 2448 hours Critical cases were those that exhibited respiratory failure septic shock andor multiple organ dysfunctionfailure Recovered figures are not present on the table here due to limited spaceKoreadatedeathscriticalsevereconfirmedcfrsc ratioFeb 21107278046343Feb 22218346058260Feb 23534602083116Feb 247212763092183Feb 2510614977102205Feb 26125131261095143Feb 27135171766074125Feb 28131062337056068Feb 29171063150054051Mar 11814133736056072Mar 22619154212062081 severe either a fever 385C or b on a oxy mask low SpO2 not sure about the exact criteria critical either a admitted to ICU or b on ventilators or ECMO|0 I understand not naming the patients because of privacy concerns but yes they should absolutely be more open about the nature of the underlying health condition Even if they are not being specific they could categorise things eg an underlying heart condition or an underlying respitory condition etc|1 Real fuck|0 Politics over health Itll be interesting to see how many die actual versus official I think they plan on just letting it go The thought seems to be wait till summer and hope I guess Also the wont count people that died at home or werent yet tested upon death The healthcare system is going to be flooded More deaths due to policy Sad day when our government lies and in such a way that its obvious to a few This really smells sour|0 Worst President Ever will be etched on his tombstone|0 Whats weird is an American pint of beer and an American pint of liquor are different amounts|0 It takes advantage of people who are experiencing an emergency Would you agree that charging 40 for a case of water after a hurricane is wrong|0 Had a bad feeling on December 31 when I saw the news that never went away Thank you everyone who has made news and updates accessible|0 Damn they dont get any support|0 I also work for a FI I think theyll close down all branches and divert branch staff to the call centerelectronic services Theres no reason to keep branches open people can do all their banking online or through the call center|0 dude its not like that lol|0 South Korea gonna be the new world leaders after this is done Seems like they are rocking their effort|1 Same Were a nonprofit that puts on a massive festival in July It supports us yearround If we cancel the festival we all lose our jobs Im terrified|1 Are you asking where home quarrentinesselfisolation is happening Because I do not support that nor is it necessary as the patients are not leaving their homes At least in Ontario the Public Health departments have been very proactive is saying where and when people could have interacted with a potential carrier|1 jumped from Han Riverjumped from Dongjak Bridge to the Han River and died the man drove in and hit the rail of Dongjak Bridgewhich was followed by getting off the car and jumping down the bridgeWhat an incredible series of events|0 Also media is downplaying as much as possible For exmaple the new narrative is elderly should stay home but young healthy people can continue flying and attending events Did they think what happens when those young healthy people go visit their parentsgrandparentscoworkers We are screwed|1 Brainwashing is a powerful thing even to an MD|1 The nookie has been known to reinfect and there have even been reported cases of people giving their all for it|1 Would NyquilDayquil be okay|1 I agree hardly anyone is being tested I personally know people who are expected to selfquarantine due to possible exposure but were denied tests IF ITS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO SELFQUARANTINE ITS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO WARRANT A TEST Theyre purposely keeping testing almost nonexistent to keep the number of cases low|0 lmao this sub has turned to shit already Good luck with your coronavirus and know youre also to blame shit head Perhaps the US needs a good pandemic|1 I just hope it means he likes him and push that cringe down to the depths of my soul|1 Thats the real crime here this man gets one week vacation a year|0 Problem is she didnt quarantine herself She even lied when she went to a hospital knowing she could have had the virusBeing scared of being treated badly does not excuse risking other peoples lives by not being careful nor honest|0 Well at least there is no reason to separate the mom from the baby now Hopefully the breast milk will help|1 If it dose cause a public outrage theyll create a fall guyjust like Epstein not saying he wasnt a total piece of shit but there are definitely more people involved in his crimes that are never going to be punished|0 People like this is why quarantine camps start|1 Not exactly It means that when you have loads of shit in a canal stirring the water will make them resurface and also cause some bad smell|0 If anyone has the balls to do it its him Everybody hates him anyway|0 lot of struggling malls will die now too|0 Someone downvoted you but since latter means last of two I say keep up the painful literalism|0 Can you say it in non freedom empire numbers|1 It does appear that I misunderstood your post What is the interference you are referring to|0 Someone recently compiled a dataset from darksky corresponding to areas with coronavirus sightings It may be helpful httpswwwredditcomrMachineLearningcommentsfh2rr6projectivecompiledweatherclimatedateforthe|1 Use a book but be gentle|1 Cant lose all those tax dollars for tornado clean up Im not trying to sound insensitive because I lost my workplace in the storm Im being serious Nashville needs the tourism revenue to rebuild plain and simple But at the risk of public safety its not worth it|1 Considering Florida has communities only for old people like Sun City Florida really wants to lower their social security and Medicare commitments|1 I think comparing it to the Spanish flu is really a stretch the r0 is high because its just the beginning and the mortality isnt anywhere close to the Spanish flu even during its first wave More realistic to compare this to SARS than anything close to Spanish flu|0 Darwin Awards at the finish line|1 Also in the uk we have a 6 week old The health visitor is just off the phone she let us know that the 6 week check will not be going forward She is going to come round today for a basic check and explained she is coming in washing her hands putting gloves on this has never happened and estimates she will be no longer than 35 minutes in the house as long as we give permission as due to the circumstance we are allowed to refuse entry The 6 week appointment for my partner has been cancelled with no alternative offered Call me paranoid but this tells me so much more than what our news outlets governments are telling us|0 Its not nuts to take basic preparations for events like quakes blizzards hurricanes Just think about power is out for 5 days due to a storm or a boilwater order has been issued for 5 daysA few weeks of extra shelfstable things like rice beans lentils TVP oils powdered cheese peanut butter honey etc as long as its stuff that youll eat is common sense Paper products are also good to stock up on TP facial tissue napkins etc Again just buying a little bit extra of things youll use up over the next few monthsYou should check up on things like medications first aid supplies alkaline batteries flashlights etc on an annual basis anyway I added ways to transport and store a few gallons of water this year to the kitIf you start straying into survive without leaving the house for 3 months territory youre probably taking it too far|1 We most of us do realize its funded by higher taxes What fewer of us realize unfortunately is that we always need these things even when were not using them Just knowing they exist makes life better in so many ways|1 Hope it goes well for him I wish him and you the best of luck|1 The provincial lab in Ontario stopped sending samples to Winnipeg on March 4thAt that time it was just the one lab in Toronto|0 If they send in a pallet of toilet roll I think theyll have told the housemates off camera lol|1 COVID19 will infect more people within a shorter time and with a higher fatality rate than the fluMore People More than 330000000 live in the US If unchecked 60 will probably become infected so thats more than 198000000 people infected Sources httpswwwworldometersinfoworldpopulationuspopulationhttpswwwworldometersinfoworldpopulationuspopulation and httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulationhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11coronavirusexpertwarnsinfectioncouldreach60ofworldspopulationShorter Time New pathogen no vaccine and no herd immunity yet It will spread quickly Slowing the spread will be critical to avoid overwhelming our medical systemHigher Fatality Rate The fatality rate is currently projected to be between 037 and 29 Source IFR from httpsinstitutefordiseasemodelinggithubionCoVpublicanalysesfirstadjustedmortalityestimatesandriskassessment2019nCoVpreliminaryageandtimeadjustedmortalityratesandpandemicriskassessmenthtmlhttpsinstitutefordiseasemodelinggithubionCoVpublicanalysesfirstadjustedmortalityestimatesandriskassessment2019nCoVpreliminaryageandtimeadjustedmortalityratesandpandemicriskassessmenthtmlPutting it together Taking the low end thats 198000000 00037 or 732600 people dying in the US within part of a yearHOWEVER please keep in mind1 About 3000000 die every year in the US already Sources httpswwwmacrotrendsnetcountriesUSAunitedstatesdeathratehttpswwwmacrotrendsnetcountriesUSAunitedstatesdeathrate and httpswwwworldometersinfoworldpopulationuspopulationhttpswwwworldometersinfoworldpopulationuspopulation2 Some of the COVID19 deaths will be among an ill population who would otherwise die within the year so its NOT 3000000 existing deaths COVID19 deaths because there will be overlap Not all of the COVID19 deaths will be new deaths Still tragic though Source httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics3 If we discover that a huge number of people have been infected with mild cases ie more than the 81 currently stated then the fatality rate may be overstated4 Medical experience and better treatments are likely to drive the fatality rate down If we can delay the arrival of widespread community infections until medical trials are complete well be better off5 Overwhelmed medical systems are likely to drive the fatality rate up If we can slow down the rate of new infections to a manageable level well be better off6 Seasonal variation may drive the infection rate down if we are lucky and buy us time until it returns in the fall Viruses spread less during summer possibly since kids arent in school and people spend more time outdoors If we can delay its spread until the summer we may be better off7 The virus will acquire mutations as it spreads and develop into slightly different versions The least deadly and most contagious version is likely to spread the most since hostdisabling versions reduce their spread and therefore have lower reproductive success If we can delay the spread of the virus until a weaker version emerges well be better offDELAY the arrival as long as possible Dont shake hands or hug Dont touch your face never share drinks or utensils use hand sanitizer frequently If you are feeling sick for any reason wear a mask and stay home Avoid touching handrails doors and pushbuttons in public areas Wash your hands and take off your shoes when you come homeedited to add sources edited to add 7 edited to correct 3|0 Thats what having a centralized system does It reduces the prices of medical costs Currently they can charge whatever they want because someone I need of a life saving operation or drug has no room to negotiate When the government controls who they buy from then people have to bring their costs down|0 We are more likely to see deflation like what happened back in 2008|1 So employees are fucked on this one Often times in a location for many hours No choice as to using public restrooms on a daily basis Uggdont even mention the poor souls who are required to clean those said restrooms|0 A reported case in China has the longest incubation period for 21 days The news source is easy to find|1 Its crazy redditors dont understand this Got into an argument with someone saying it was to prevent masks shortages|0 New Rochelle has whats called a cluster There are 173 confirmed cases in the entire state of New York and New Rochellea suburb of 73000 peoplehas over 100 of those cases All of those 100 cases in New Rochelle can be traced to one person who infected his family and its unknown how he got it Apparently a containment area with onemile radius is all thats necessary|0 Thank you for posting this I saw the update on BNO but the link did not work After seeing the update I came here hoping there would be a link 3My sister lives in Calgary and works as a chef so shes always around the public Plus she takes transit to get to work So Im a bit worried about whats happening thereI appreciate it kind stranger|1 I think youre the one who suggested it was a dumb answer first And yes it was Its an outlier Learn what they mean|0 And who says teachers are infected at higher rate than general population|0 If philosophy majors go to classes and premeds stay home well I know which group Id emulate Just sayin|1 5 days IIRC is the average It should follow a normal distribution so it should be 6 or 7 days to be say 7080 confident that you dont have it|1 They are currently making 6000 tests per day so yes that is their limiting factorx200BThey did screen 75 million people and say that 175000 were exhibiting symptoms|1 If they dont cover it lots of people wont bother getting tested and it will just spread faster costing more later Its really a no brainer Hopefully with it being an election year Trump would rather be able to brag about covering the treatment than be ridiculed for refusing to Good for his ego|1 I own a tattoo shop too and we closed on Monday It feels surreal to be sitting at home feeling perfectly healthy but I hope it is the right thing to do We only have 39 confirmed cases here Alabama and only 1 in my city but I suspect the number will grow exponentiallyStay safe out there|1 No I dont think many of us are claiming that right now Its all a bit of a shambles tbh Though life trundles on as normal|0 Yea true but they fuck your liver and kidneys over a long period of time|0 Thats not what exponential growth means Might want to get your basic terms down before you lecture others on facts|0 Nah theres a reason Mike Osterhalm is only getting his word out to the public via Joe Rogans massive following and that the MSM will not even give him the time of day|0 According to a friend that works at a clinic in Phoenix AZ they test for a panel of about 1520 viruses as part of any COVID19 test so multiple infections would be identified as part of this standard process Bad news is they only can do 20 tests per week or something along those lines at the moment|0 I honestly wonder how this will effect where I work were a private freight forwarder and our whole business model is to take packages with USbased postage like USPS across the border into the US as US postage tends to run cheaper than Canadas so it saves the shipper money Were a business not an individual so it makes me wonder if wed have to close in this circumstance but were certainly not an essential service at all|1 Youd have to be an idiot to think this|0 Dream do come true I was around when he first spammed it on rworldnews rchinaflu and here I remember when he messaged the mods to get it on the side barNow hes famous and making a ton of money thanks to this pandemic Congrats kid Lets see who else will become rich of monetizing this coronavirus situation|1 It is showing fiscal and fiduciary irresponsibility to their shareholders and the ratings agencies If their underlying security is illiquid and caused by careless exposure such as a huge buyback its essentially showing theyre more willing to risk being cash flush in a time of crisis through careless spending during the long bull run dailyweeklymonth green marketsThey brought this in themselves TLDR instead of keeping cash reserves airlines burned through money and lines of credit banking on the taxpayer to bail them out of there is trouble that isnt happening this time around|0 The population of Scotland is 54m I think those numbers need to be increased 10x|1 This was before the internet smartphones social media etc Highly doubt they could keep something like that under wraps today|0 Damn Ive worked at my company 12 years and get 4 weeks and 5 sick days that are included in those 4 weeks Haha|0 Its terrible that the economy cant better support poorer people I can see why people dont want to close schools if the kids get food Here families live pay check to pay check but they arent as reliant on schools for food We need to rebalance the economy to have a wider spectrum of business get some manufacturers back out of China Relying on retail jobs and consumer spending is not healthy for any economy I was pinning my hope on the virus slowing down over the summer but now it seems the summer heat wont effect the virus as much as we thought This crisis could last a long time|0 I legit thought contaminated tests means people who went in for tests but didnt have it now has coronavirus cuz the test is contaminated therefore they got it from the test lol|1 Besides all the good points others have pointed out the number of fatalities will increase outside China We have a high number of critical cases and as far I understand about 50 of them are expected to not make it|0 Its a process of about 7 questions each one have you travelled from hubei in the last 2weeks have you traveled to northern Italy etcThen the option to go through normal NHS and get a doctors appointment at your local GP for flu meds|0 Yes Im wondering the same a Union College staff was a confirmed case as of today|1 I will help fund his legal defense fund Who else|1 This year flu is really brutal bruh|0 Earlier reports said it has a capacity ility of binding to human cells as does HIV Some of the posts from people treated in China said they used some anti HIV drugs on them|0 If you watched the WHO press conference youll see the Dr explain how they needed to find a name that didnt offend anyone Its time for all humans to realize the worlds a fucked up place full of fucked up people and being butthurt is part of life Weve been coddled for so long that weve forgotten the most important old adage Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me|0 Yeah The evidence was there Scientists were screening people that were living near caves that had bats Many of them had been infected by SARS like viruses But these viruses never managed to efficiently transmit from human to human But sooner or later one viral strain would be able to jump the species barrier|0 What the fuck|0 I think that in 25 days it will be quarantine then in 50 days will be the absolute crisis point and then at 75 days the numbers will start to decline people will die but they will be the ones infected at day 50 How does that compare to your numbers|0 The good news is that the geography of NYC will make it exceptionally easy to quarantine after things have gotten completely out of control there|1 I was able to confirm that the building featured in the submitted photo is in fact the Good Samaritan Hospital in San Jose California I was also able to find a credible news site also reporting on these new tents including a video featuring themhttpssanfranciscocbslocalcom20200304coronavirussanjosegoodsamaritanhospitalsurgetentsinfluxcasescovid19 San Jose Hospital Prepping Surge Tents For Possible Influx Of Coronavirus Cases SAN JOSE KPIX 5 Good Samaritan Hospital in San Jose is prepping surge tents to handle a possible influx of coronavirus cases The tancolored tents are currently erected on the southern border of the hospitals property facing Samartian Drive directly adjacent to the emergency rooms paramedic entrance and the public sidewalk The footprint of the two identical structures measures 15 feet by 30 feet and stands about 10 feet tall in the center Each one is large enough to handle up to six patients at a time while still allowing the minimum six foot exclusion zone the distance health officials say is sufficient to prevent humantohuman transmission of the diseasehttpsgoodsamsanjosecomGoogle Maps street view of the Good Samaritan Hospitalhttpswwwgooglecommapsuvhlenpb1s0x808e35b2d142553b3A0x9e49c23a182a2fe43m17e1154s2Fmaps2Fplace2Flos2Bgatos2Bgood2Bsamaritan2Bhospital2F403725111372C12194733262C3a2C75y2C3446h2C90t2Fdata3D213m4211e1213m2211sUA9Rh0m0v4nOZH4votEXqA212e0214m2213m1211s0x808e35b2d142553b3A0x9e49c23a182a2fe43Fsa3DX5slos20gatos20good20samaritan20hospital2020Google20Search15sCAQimagekey1e22sUA9Rh0m0v4nOZH4votEXqAsaXved2ahUKEwinlr6wyIXoAhXJmHIEHaKCwIQpx8wE3oECBIQCw|1 Hope you at least bought good ones|1 Since when does anyone need approval from the CDC to run a diagnostic testThis is insane Just run the tests|1 True spring break does mean more people travelling The increase in cases would be delayed two weeks for the incubation period to end and symptoms to appear|1 Sounds like China in November|1 good question im not sure its not immediately apparent from this study probably need to chase down the references to figure it out and im betting that its abit speculative in many cases I would not advice anybody to just start taking all these supplements without doing some further research by themselves Your speculations seem plausible some quotes from the studyAlthough the rate of seroconversion to influenza A was comparable in the two groups indicating that they were exposed at the same frequency only 25 of the virusinfected subjects in the NAC group developed symptoms as contrasted to 79 of those of placebo Insurance of good zinc status particularly in the very young and the elderly would likewise seem to be prudent as zinc supports the effective function and proliferation of various immune cells2335 This effect might be pertinent to the significant 27 reduction in total mortality observed in elderly subjects who received highdose zinc in the AREDS1 multicenter trial|1 Yes and no Everyone seems to be getting better and not necessarily worse |1 Jesus H Christ at this point Id figure people would be more scared if you werent wearing a mask If I were management Id say fuck corporate Maybe you lose some customers but you lose all income when youre workers fall sick Dumbest logic Ive read all day|0 Well also most have come from a nursing home correct Those are the most at risk patients imaginable|0 If people understood exponential growth as a larger society we would do almost everything differently than we do From resource usage to population control to investingretirement|1 I work at a sortarion center so my perspective and experience is different It sucks knowing how others are treated|0 infected days laterNo infected right away Showing symptoms days later|0 Normal surgical masks have been shown to be roughly as effective in stopping respiratory infections as N95 In fact I havent yet found a single study that showed them to be better to a statistically significant degree httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFHnrDKsc5rghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFHnrDKsc5rg|1 Well this isnt Ebola Some idiots will get it and be fine and use that to justify that they didnt and dont need to change|1 Taiwan doesnt have wet markets like that with live animals for sale Its the conditions in Chinas markets where birds other animals pigs and humans are in close quarters that are perfect for viruses to jump to humans via an intermediate species eg bird pig human|1 Doesnt this speak to the fact that the USA is unprepared because of lack of tests They dont have enough to go around They had two entire months to build up reserves|0 They are happy spaffing a 1015 GDP hit on no deal brexit If its a choice between that or saving 14 million lives then it should be a no brainer|1 They not incompetent they are just realists Nobody is saying it out loud but most people familiar with data already understood one simple fact Containment measures will fail and eventually all of us will be infected 20 will need extensive medical help and at this point this is just a fact of life Keeping people alive will be a lot easier if we are successful in protecting our healthcare system and allout panic will all but ensure uncontrollable run on ERs all over the world|1 What about them You live in America you yourself can go and earn a billion if you want Dont cut someone else down and try to take their money You didnt earn a dime of Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos money What makes you think you deserve it|1 why bother looking here if its all fake news|0 lol you a good troll I salut|1 Meanwhile Im at work and the old people I work with are like cmon its all over the top flue this plague that we survived the war we can survive thisWhat the heck is with old people and comparing everything to the fIng war all the time Boomers do my face in|0 Wouldnt it make more sense to isolate the vulnerable rather than the children|0 I agree Its the same massive bumbling bureaucracy in every administration people are only decrying it now because of Trump|1 Its a nasty questionYou mean a good question|0 People already panic bought in the area Not sure what you mean|0 Yep all travelers need to go through a 14 day quarantine upon arrival in China|1 Oh dear Were these discovered quickly Or have there been days of visitors and exposure to health workers public prior to discovery|1 sorry i meant the chlorox disinfectant wipes we have the generic but the ingredients are the same luckily|1 Its all over our community forums Im sure someone is yelling at them directly But there isnt really much that can be done|1 Gwyneth Paltrow patient zero is still trying to sell overpriced clothing on her Goop Website instead of facemasks or gasmasks that people really need Her dad Bruce Paltrow died of pneumonia in Italy and the coronavirus is basically superpneumonia Anyways the coronavirus is all her fault|0 Fear makes it sound like the organiser panicbought a pallet of toilet paper for their studio apartment|0 Not good|0 I hope there will be a test kit which is cheap and fast so we can use it everyday at home It can be used in airport as well It would be a solution before vaccine or cure|1 At this point we might as well bite the bullet because theres no other way of stopping incoming carriers|0 If Covid19 takes out this tough Norse motherfucker then theres no hope for the rest of us|0 Im sorry youre being insulted It isnt right|0 Yeah they say almost all of the deaths in Washington have come from that one nursing home Awful situation|0 Good luck with all the gun toting second amendment folk who say its their right to protect their freedoms if the government tries to restrict them|1 The shitty thing wasnt locking people in or forcing quarantine its that they censored information the US wouldve taken action swiftly if it wasnt just people like myself and others here saying this is a big deal It was only brave people like Chen Quishi saying the truth and since the videos got deleted and they got arrested USA thought eg probably not a big deal Guess what here we are The CCP after that though has been decent Im their biggest critic but it seems like some of the younger people wised up or something Hopefully theyll help out since their censorship helped increase our risk and idiots like Winnie The Flu are replaced by sensible Chinese citizens like Chen or that businessman who was hauled away yesterday|0 I posted the new about stock crash of 400 billion dollars and how concentration camps are put to halt and it was removed for the source being unreliable Many other news agencies have reported the same thing|0 The stock market is important If a national quarantine happens millions of people will be jobless|1 SMART MOVE THE RIGHT MOVE History tells us that those communities that closed schools proactively in 1918 faired much better KIDS SPREAD GERMS KIDS DO NOT COMPLY WITH CDC GUIDELINES FOR PANDEMIC HYGIENE PROTOCOL If you are reading this you are the resistance Social distancing NOW|1 it appears most people have poor listeningcritical thinking skillsnormalcy bias News Entertainment who knows but it seems thats the caseits most likely while dealing with panic these same people will now have irrational decision making skills based on fearangerthese fucks are the ones to flood the hospitals and not follow quarantinetheyve instantly lost their sense of control and the equal reaction will not be prettyamerica is armed to the teetheveryone should caution to the side of everyone is armedstay safe|0 Thank you for posting this I have a four month old that I was going to fly from Edmonton to Vancouver next week then take the ferry to Victoria and fly back to Edmonton from there Thats three different international airports and a ferry during spring break To visit elderly family and a cousin that works in the public school system While having some comorbidities myself it feels weird to think Im vulnerable when Im only 38 but asthma and high blood pressure are on the list I have been thinking about cancelling for the last two weeks and Im glad to know Im not the only one Think Ill tell my family tonight that Im cancelling|0 Oh wow I did thanks for spotting that|1 I think we just gave it the old hug o death|0 Not so bad considering theres 7680000000 people on planet earth|1 This regime is like a helicopter squadron in a sewage tank|1 Thank you for tryingI found this helpful and hopeful httpsthreadreaderappcomthread1238959119165534208html|1 How much are the tests whose responsible for payment and where can they be accessed|1 Totally agree with homeopathy being 100 bullshit no argument Its a literal con invented to take money from people while laughing at them like the actual historical snake oil Homeopathy simple means taking something and diluting it down a truly ridiculous amount think a couple of molecules remaining and then claiming that through some sort of magic drinking water with a couple of molecules will make you adapt to anything Without an understanding of medicine this should be obvious as bullshitThere is no such thing as a Boost to immune systemThis is actually not true Several supplements and pharmaceuticals of course have been found to literally boost the immune system Most notably garlic and pelargonium sidoides The mechanism is via compounds specific to both that are A Able to be absorbed orally B Interact with various immune cell signalling systems and processes in the case of garlic its a combination of action via hydrogensulfide signalling and potentially influencing glutathione stores in immune cells and in the case of sidoides its manipulation of interleukin releasePeople that claim supplements 100 cant do anything physiologically in the body are just ignorant because many pharmaceuticals were originally distilled from plantsfungi Of course pharmaceuticals are still superior to supplementsnatural forms because they are far more standardized and regulatedNow the question is do these actions actually have a practical impact on disease progression Based on actual human studies it seems to be minor to moderate I personally dont think they would be the difference between recovery and death or anything dramatic like that but in theory there may be a small advantageBut theres one more problem its actually getting your hands on supplements that arent scams Most countries barely regulate supplements so you can legally lie about concentrations on the bottle and only maybe be vulnerable to a lawsuit for compensation for deceptive advertising Garlic is super cheap so probably not very common but Id definitely be skeptical of pelargonium sidoides being a more obscure supplementPersonally Im very conservative on this and would say the only supplement 100 worth taking right now is Vitamin D Several large studies have found huge populations of subclinically deficient individuals because of our modern lifestyle keeping us covered and out of the sun Clinical trials has found increased recovery rates in influenza patients given vitamin d The fact that it is ultracheap extremely safe as long as you take no more than 10 000 IU daily easily available no fancy formulas needed you dont need Nano Vitamin D or anything crazy further backs up this recommendation to me Talk to your doctor before following this adviceEdit 2 Yes I understand that natural plant ingredients can be used to treat things this is not homeopathy since it is proven But claiming that a plant has antiviral properties is inaccurate Antivirals are a very specific term for antibodies that bind and inactivate virusesLol your Edit 1 and Edit 2 directly contradict each other And youre also double wrong antiviral refers to exactly what the name implies a compound that is damaging to certain viruses not your bizarre definition youre saying antivirals refers to antibodies lol why would there be two formal names for one thing surely thats a clue to you that you might be wrong|1 I really hope it doesnt come to deploying the military I think that would be something used as a last result I would like to think a majority of people would agree to a public health announcement there will always be a minority who disobey but thats what the police should be for|1 Fasttrapper my parents live in Ohio and theyre super worried My mom is stockpiling supplies and told me to come to OH if my company lets me work from home for a few weeks Im in a NYC suburb so I feel like its a matter of days until I get sick or things shut down|1 Really What the fuck is that subs purpose You were banned for what Being reasonable|0 Until that happens were just going to keep spreading this Again there is no way to know if youre sick until its too late God knows how many employees are going to touch a lid then someone drinks from it This is amazing to me it should be common sense|1 Not full faith but acknowledging that theyre doing better than back in the SARS days|1 Buy out stocks of companies that make toilet paper Cmon guys lets get rich|1 Ok so what if some people decided to use this as an extended 3 week vacation instead of social distancingThere should be mandatory measures to quarantine entering the country|1 Dogtown is postponed now too|0 Woohoo Opositive|1 Amazing math breakdown I wish I could learn how to do that Math can be kinda fun|1 It sounds like a bio weapon when you put it that way Seriously Makes people forget to breathe Jesus Christ|0 Dude what are you talking about Did you go through your entire life with no help Because if you got help means youre not fit to survive based on this Philosophy That Ibuprofen youre going to take did your superior mind create it or someone else who has a superior mind did In which case youre the weak depending on the strong Its old outdated and used by people who cant think too far Its an easy cut off point for something that can change your life and outlook forever if you really delved deeper|1 Holy crap 1261|0 I shouldnt laugh considering the gravity of the situation Oh but I did|0 Results We estimated that there were a total of 114325 COVID19 cases interquartile range IQR 76776 164576 in mainland China as of February 29 2020 and these were highly correlated p0001 R2086 with reported incidence Without NPIs the number of COVID19 cases would likely have shown a 67fold increase IQR 44 94 with the effectiveness of different interventions varying The early detection and isolation of cases was estimated to prevent more infections than travel restrictions and contact reductions but integrated NPIs would achieve the strongest and most rapid effect If NPIs could have been conducted one week two weeks or three weeks earlier in China cases could have been reduced by 66 86 and 95 respectively together with significantly reducing the number of affected areasWow This is damming if it turns out to be correct|1 See if you can have a policy of them paying and tipping online or over the phone Then you leave it on the doorstep You could even have a special stick to ring the bell|1 Would still feel guilty about making the man do all them stairs with heavy boxes He is a poor sod hopefully you tip him|0 I think you are confusing studies We have data on this even a comprehensive review of 22 other studies which points to 9 days as an upper boundary Here is the review of 22 studies which is the same study linked above in the OPhttpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463fulltext This overlaps well to what we already knew with Sars and coronaviruses in generalThe 28 days is anecdotal of one outlier non peerreviewed The 24 hours study seems made up SourceIf you mean in general on non hard surfaces we know viruses can die in a couple of hours depending on temp It seems almost as you wanted to make something look confusing when its not All coronaviruses have very similar resistance to the environment because they have a very similar enclosure I said it twice at this point What changes is the RNA inside the capsid Occams razor says 9 days more than that is so improbable that its not going to impact R0 anyway meaning if one case in a million survived for 20 days lets say its such a rare occurrence that its not going to change much the infectivity|0 Do what doctors asks even if its far away practice social distancing even in your family can you avoid that hug and I mean in your house Avoid it and stay away from your elders if you can thats my 2 cent from Rome|0 Do you have a source for this Denmark seems to be taking it really seriously from all Ive read|0 Dont Listen to those speaking poorly I just got back from living there for a year in June and I have never met a more kind and beautiful people in my life Like anywhere in the world there are bad people so to say that of an entire civilization is simply ignorant Let them spout nonsense It stems from their insecurities and obvious lack of experience in the world|0 Based on the fact theres only a few hundred confirmed cases in a giant area Sample size is an indicator of the whole Samples are how we determine if an individual is infected Samples are how we determine if a population is infected Samples are also called polls in the political world Im literally sitting next to a friend who is an epidemiologist this very moment Were going to have some coffee take care The peace of mind from awareness and responsible action|1 Youre welcome I am thankfully not losing sleep over this but I do feel you when it comes to parents Mine are not yet in the age group that gets it really bad but my dad is getting close Thankfully my parents are smart and responsible people We did mutually agree to not visit one another until regulations here are loosening up even though they live a couple blocks away Better safe than sorry|1 American healthcare is great if youre wealthy|1 Yes Im sure the CDC WHO and CCP will be sending their thanks to the members of this sub in a matter of hours|1 Jesus I grew up in Orlando Barely an hour from the parks If Disney closes Holy shit My dad works for a company affiliated with the Disney parks I hope hes gonna be okay|1 Miss you|0 Yeah Dobbys sound engineering second cousin P|1 Over 50 The chance of mortality increases exponentially with each successive decade|1 Gunna have to learn nimblelean manufacturing and tool up to make what you need elsewhere Empty factories in US and Canada Evolve or die Send request for quotes to India they big in textiles|0 Definitely agreed on that lol|1 It is a really good question because a lot of people dismiss the impact stress has on the immune system Thank you for asking itStress keeps your body is fight flight freeze mode Even if you are enjoying something that is also causing fatigue or stress your sympathetic nervous system thinks it is being chased by a lionThis means it is important to evaluate what is actually stressful versus what is actively or passively relaxing Like I cant watch certain shows late at night and have to stream them on days I am more relaxed My cardiologist put it this way things in the body compete for top dog position So if one thing isnt well managed it will work harder to get your attention while the other thing does the same This is why it is super important to keep all body systems well managed It lets your immune system fight one thing|1 That study has not been confirmed and is the only one of its kind while other studies have compared over a hundred SARSCoV2 genomes and have not reached the same conclusion so it should be taken with a massive grain of salt It should NOT be discussed like it is a fact right now|1 Thanks|1 CCP dont care their own citizens During the big leap period thousands died in China due to a famine but CCP was still sending foods to Africa to help our friends|1 I read that as population and was about to get mad|0 My point was that a US controlled area is on a crazy lockdown even for civilians Meaning our government would likely do the same thing stateside to non military|0 Same I dont even remember how I ended up here but thanks to everyone here I am enjoying my preparedness And instead of TP I got a bidet|1 Good information Well see what happens in the next few weeks|1 Thanks for asking that Id like to know too I do contract work and am nobodys employee but will be effected economically by this|1 From the Wuhan lab yep httpsdavidharrisjrcomstevenscientistsatmicrobiologylabsoldtestinganimalstothewuhanmeatmarket|1 Thanks for the correction I was misinformed|1 The infection in younger patients can be entirely asymptomatic and probably arent being counted at allThats a good point a breakdown of confirmed cases by age would be interesting too When the age is mentioned usually the nonChina cases they are usually 50 years old|1 Imagine having to find a corner for your 6th family member then another corner for the government official 2 corners needed in every room Awkward|0 Just curious where abouts in Chicago The first reported case was treated at St Alexius in Hoffman Estates in early Feb|1 Brilliant This is how every famous person should be DO YALL SEE THIS|1 Not these doctors but holy shit is this thread infested with the 50 cent army|0 Were gonna flatten the curve all right Were gonna turn it into a fucking wall straight up|1 They use almost every type of positive pressure mechanical ventilator to treat patients with COVID but it depends on the severity of their symptomsBut yeh 220 extra ventilators means nothing|1 Its also possible for hypoxia to be hard to diagnose for yourself even when its obvious to someone elseAviators can encounter hypoxia as an occupational hazardThis is a famous bit of ATC audio of a pilot flying at a high altitude who was hypoxic and couldnt believe it He declared an emergency because the plane wasnt flying right and the air traffic controller had to convince him to turn and descendhttpsyoutubeIqWalEmBgYou can hear the last statement from the pilot at the end the video when hes mostly recovered after descending to an altitude where there is sufficient oxygen to sustain human life He sounds like a different personAll pilots are educated on hypoxia and other aero medical issues He was just so impaired by being hypoxic that he couldnt put together several things he already knew his altitude and the potential for hypoxia in order to understand the situationThe lesson is that if someone in your family tells you should go to the hospital your answer should be yes and you can complain about how wrong they are on the wayMy dad shrugged off a heart attack this way after his wife tried to take him to the hospital and he suffered greatly for it he lived the rest of his life with only one chamber of his heart functioning This stuff is deadly serious and your family members can sometimes see things you might miss while impairedSo life lesson if someone in your family says you need to go to the hospital the answer is yes You can complain about how wrong they are on the way if you like but go anywayAlso if you go into a situation where theres a chance you might become hypoxic have a simple plan for what to do if things go sideways|0 LTheanine or however you spell it is the ingredient in most teas that relaxes you and counteracts the jitters you get from caffeine Unfortunately for me I get foggy when I drink green tea or take lTheanine in supplement form But I heard it helps others|1 Thats it Im gonna stop reading Reddit Until this whole thing blows over at least|0 In the UK your first universal credit payment can take two months It took them two months to give me benefits for sick leave and that was without a crisis Plus you need to attend an appointment in person so thatll be fun when the job centres are closed and everybody needs money for food|1 how is that exactly a crime theyre selling non essential stuff to people who are panicked for a price that is set by the market|0 God forbid a leader who puts his country first shakes limp wristfist |0 I never thought sad and good will be used in same sentence|1 I dont really mind their denial it seems to be everywhere and its not causing a panic which gives me a lot more time then I thought to get supplies and prepare|1 This isnt a problem of outsourcing its a problem of poor risk and inventory management by the business You cant predict a virus outbreak but you can create backup plans for future supply chain issues|1 And Im so sorry the virus has now spread to other countries I truly am very sorry But not all Chinese are bad people Not all are selfish and entitled and just downright disgusting human beings I dont think its fair for you to say that we all deserve it because of the terrible behaviours of some x200BDudedont dare worry about it its not like YOU single handedly caused all of this Not everyone is the same im sorry for the ass hates but no one deserves a disease outbreak my god people|0 And right now weve had under 10000 people tested in the US with testing availability being a severe limiting factor Whats your plan for the other 160 million tests that will need for this And can you get them all done by Monday|0 Yes Im aware of the exponential growth curve Still doesnt rid me of my empathetic shock of seeing these numbers|1 I did see it She ran and stopped holding up a water bottle then the guy runs up and starts kicking and such Edit maybe she was about to hit him but thats besides the point|0 Nice post Its good to see more people beeing proactive and posting instructions for people to help themseves |1 People are still working and going to school Unfortunately this virus spreads easilyLets hope youre right for everyones sake And lets hope they can slow the spread where it is currently|1 there is nothing to watch just the four tiny static unlabeled graphs at the top of the article im not a wapo subscriber tho maybe its just for those who are members|1 Everybody should be cauious not because they might die because of itIf you are healthy and under 60 you have very little to worry about in terms of the virus killing you right now well unless a large portion of the 1020 who need to be hospitalized are young and healthy because eventually hospitals will be overrun and that 1020 will start dying Furthermore once this virus overruns hospitals pray you dont get in a car crash or have an appendix rupture or get some other condition that needs hospitalization|0 Higher viral load makes sense I wonder also the sickest patients are hospitalized if there are varying strains out there docs would tend to be exposed to strains with higher virulence|0 Ha Great joke|1 Par for course for the military The have some of the brightest and also some of the most fucking retarded individuals at ant given time|0 Im a solo printer but Im looking for a bit of purpose during this time of crisis Ill be attempting to donate as much as I can hopefully I can get some filament soon|0 Thats great news Do you know how long theyve been doing that|1 Some the most egregious misinformation has been coming out of the mouths of government officials Some of them are STILL to this day denying asymptomatic spread spread in the air claiming canada has plenty of ICU beds etc Many of these things are well known fact that even the totally useless WHO acknowledges|0 Thank you My concern is more they are telling us to clean frequently touched surfaces I cant keep a remote or light switch wet for 5 minutes without problems Its hard enough keeping a flat counter wet for 5 minutes Clorox shows on their website some efficacy times and wipes are 15 seconds for human coronavirus so Im just trying my best and thats all I can do|1 My family arent taking it serious Im 21 and moved out renting with room mates and dont have finances to stock My dad just makes fucking jokes the whole Common cold is worseIm so fucked Australia NSW|0 You can build equity quickly because the corporations are doing things like taking massive loans to pay for stock buybacks then having the government bails them out when it goes tails up|1 A general feature of conspiracy theories is that in them the powers that be are evil allknowing and capableBrings to mind that lovely aphorism about Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence|0 Welcome to 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subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Sorry Im back|0 And hospitals will be hit as well My mom is a nurse in a rural hospital in Washington state and they have one confirmed case who was not isolated until testing confirmed which means they were in a regular medical room and treated by healthcare providers without precautions|1 Ok see you tomorrow bro |1 News source please This seems quite fed up|1 500kso a weeks worth Maybe a couple days if we are realistic|1 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 This is like a perfect storm for a disaster|1 Test in a common sense way like Korea|1 If they had enough tests Id have gone in three days agoAs it stands Im a healthy youngish human with a cough and achy joints probably infecting my entire office because they think its overreacting to stay home even though I caught whatever this is from a coworker whose job is 90 traveling|1 Soooo I should cancel my trip to Spain in April|0 so dumb|0 Yes we generation X peeps are more worried Weve seen diseases like aids start during our lifetime|1 Even the CDC has dropped this shit and has recommended testing everybody now What Did you mistype They certainly are NOT testing everyone with flulike symptoms not even a drop in the bucket|0 710 is a very solid sample size usually much larger than say a clinical trial would have I think you can make some pretty good estimates from that sample with the correct statistics being done Not perfect of course but better than all the messy data sets we have from China or pretty much every where elseWho knows how many more deaths we will see they are getting the best medical care possible and they were all given medical care from the start so hopefully not many more die|1 And what of the neartotal blackout in effect in the US I can only hope the Govt is in full panic mode doing all they can The thing is a strong public announcement and the rapid shutting down of travel large gatherings etc would slow the bugs progress greatly Taking the bull by the horns today will save untold lives and make the inevitable economic blast less severe|1 But people should never forget where it came from and why it became a pandemic in the first place|1 I knew it was only a matter of time before we had our first death Very unfortunate that its gotten to this point but I hope that this will make people take it more seriously now|0 Almost all provinces outside Hubei have 0 new case in recent weeks and in the Hubei province there are only few new cases in Wuhan I think the situation is pretty good now However there is an increasing of returncases from outside China such Iran Europe and the US which is the major concern for China nowIn provinces outside Hubei governments have restarted jobs and work gradually not totally restarted now In Hubei province I think it is still locked down and work will not restart in weeks People say that the lockdown of Wuhan probably end in May|1 True statement overall but the only timeline where people with walkers have an extra elbow to sneeze in would probably be a cronenburg one|1 Giving zero fucks is the symptom And the disease causing it is entitlement not covid|0 Yea agreed|1 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge Im a nurse seeking as much info as possible so I can be more effective in drawing people out of panic mode and youve been extremely helpful Much appreciated|1 Plus youre less likely to get infected by contagious mobs that are panic buying along side you It really improves youre quality or quantity of life|0 Dude close quarters and an insanely contagious illness What dont you get Were probably going to beach any ship that gets infected at some point This thing is MEANT for close quarters Remember 15 meters Yeah NOT on a ship Any ship|0 Reminds me of whats going on in Iran a high ranking government official went on live TV TWICE with clear symptoms of the virus but the populace are convinced that hes not actually sick and will come back on the air healed to make the virus seem not as bad as people think it is|1 Send this to all the levels of your government Whatever local regional and country wide representatives you have Take action now Force them to pay attention|0 If Im 993 Im well on my way to fighting something bigger off without immediate intervention By the time Im 998 Im freakin sick and the illness is set it|0 Eastern Shore of MDLots of cavalier attitudes around here Some people are starting to take it more seriously but the majority of people are not I drove by a popular restaurantbar at 915pm on Saturday and it was PACKED Had to have been hundreds of people inside in close quarters drinking Its very frustrating|0 But its worse because Italy took measures to slow growth and spread Not to be pedantic but Italys response wasnt even remotely adequate They only really started instituting social distancing policies when the hospitals were overflowing with people If anything Italy is the cautionary tale example here Their numbers might be some of the worst proportionally speaking Singapore on the other hand responded swiftly and did in fact flatten the curve as did Hong Kong Thats not to say that the US didnt drop the ballwe totally did Our leadership failed us and now well all suffer But I guess my bigger point is that its disingenuous to suggest that Italys example is one of the better outcomes because they took measures They didnt really and its showing|0 If you see price gouging gather proof and report them If you dont know how post it to Reddit and well take it from there|1 Really A mass die off of government officials that results in a junior member of congress holding the highest office in the land would be amazing|0 The bureaucrats were in charge of everything Thats what I fear more than anything they can be swayed into making poor decisions by those who make the most noise or have the most money|0 Work is done for youYou got that right A grand a month Do you have any idea how much that will cost per year I do It will cost around 46 trillion dollars Do you have any idea how much money that is|1 In addition to being the right thing to do this is very smart from a business perspective I know I would be nervous to go to a Walmart if I thought sick workers still had to continue working there as a financial necessity Consumers should voice their concern to other retailers and encourage them to follow suit|1 You sound like a bigot|1 With the numbers we are seeing and original date of sick carrier boarding that is extremely unlikely He would have had to be an incredibly prolific super spreader immediately creating several other super spreaders for these numbers to work out Combined with todays revelations about infection control on board it is far more likely there was sustained transmission after the quarantine startedAnd given that testing doesnt seem too reliable probably especially early after infection just releasing everyone into the wild does seem madBut so does continuing the current quarantine as is They should restart quarantine under professional and more controlled conditions on land in specifically prepared locations Snd follow proper procedures this time Preferably theyd have location hotspots on board that enable them to create different risk pools for various quarantine locations|1 You should be banned for posting fake news titles|0 Its better then nothing but the N95 masks wont fully stop it The main advantage is not touching your face Avoid people 6 feet dont touch your face wash your hands and sanitize your hands In high volume area its good to have a face mask as it helps contain your germs and coughs|1 Horrible news Rip|0 Unless they are in ITTechGod damn it you got me|0 The competent experts are the public servants with careers in the system not the bozos who get elected|1 If you look at my post history Im not a doom and gloom guy but I couldnt imagine being in Wuhan when this all went into full tilt Like every large city they have a major problem with the quality of lower class housing and sanitation which is the main cause of their logisticsbased labor shortage I dont think people here have any idea what life is like for the lower class of these cities when an outbreak of something scary is NOT happening let alone this|0 While I agree with you But have you ever been on a vacation with no where to eat or drink This will slow down the masses and in turn slow down the beach interaction The 2 should go hand and hand|1 Theyve sold out bloody panic buyers|0 I hope we remember Dr LiWe should remember him Because what happened to him was ridiculous Many things could have been prevented Why it took Hubei government so long to do something Because our system is like a bloated machine rusted and corrupted|1 I already bought some online because I dont trust our hospital system to remain intact enough to treat everyone|1 Youre very welcome I thought it would be good for all of to see something GOOD and simple for a change|1 Snow mold Gets me every year I also have cough variant asthma so if allergies are happening I will just cough People look at me like I am dying but an asthma cough is pretty distinct for me I promise I am not sick Just allergies|1 Capitalism is awesome|1 I feel like a dumbass but CFR Fatality Rate|0 As the above poster pointed out their way of doing statistics makes it a 20 percent mortality rate in South Korea Its a misleading use of statistics and honestly there isnt much use of that number The dead and the recovered are not in the same stage of illness until every case is either dead or recovered So the easiest way to calculate mortality is just the cases identified that are fatal That method has a variety of things that induce error but nothing nearly as severe as that overestimate Right now the largest factor is unidentified cases because possible mild cases are not being tested in most places So the mortality rate as calculated naively is artificially high with most people now estimating less than 1 percent instead of the 4 percent that was originally seen Using a metric that inflates that number by even more is not useful|0 Fuck sakes Think about how smart the average person is half of them are more dumb than that|0 UH flu is still way more widespread than coronavirus right now|0 Every state is in for a rough time Its pretty easy to avoid the California homeless in my case Not so easy to avoid people who have traveled inside and outside of the country And the business travel to and from San Francisco and Los Angeles is massive And that means Chicago Dallas New York City and every other hub has been affected|1 Was very smart of them to shut down casinos when they did|1 Disagree Early action saves lives I cant stay home even though I want to and my wife is begging me to Im a teacher its just a matter of time until I get it from the kids and bring it home and infect herIf I stay home without symptoms I wont get paid supply teacherHowever if the government forces schools close then we will get paid out of the schools insurance policy this has been confirmed by the Head to meSo stay home and dont get paid aka starve or go work and risk killing my wife|0 I recommend building some kind of wall along the border Maybe made of concrete and just tall enough for someone with a 10m ladder to climb over It would put the country in crippling debt but Americans are sneaking across our border Theyre infected theyre racist and some I assume are good people|0 When I posted this sentiment the other day that the elderly were most likely to die and that most posters making hysterical end of the world type comments were probably farthest from being the most medically likely to be devastatedkilled by this I had someone tell me that Im speaking as if the elderly dying is not a big deal Im not sure how they got that idea its terrible either way and those of us who wouldnt die should still be trying not to get sick Who wants to get sick in general lol|0 Read my comment above I hope you recover soon|1 Nope Those people who didnt think about them before they would now even less Theyre probably worried about protecting the same US citizens going around spreading the virus everywhereI feel bad for those people Enough of them were dying under dirty circumstances cant imagine what itll look like if one of them gets infected And I doubt our government will do much for them|0 The state with the highest population of older folks inviting the virus in|1 Can agree that Italy is on top of shit I flew into Milan 3 weeks ago from NY and there were people completely suited up checking temps It was scary to see it but necessary|0 so true|1 Their gin Conniption is excellent|1 Lmao thats fantastic the only time Im considering wearing my mask is when Im on public transit for a long period of time Gonna wear one on the bus ride tomorrow if I hear anyone coughing|1 Good genes Mediterranean diet|1 No one near me is and I live right down the road from the CDC|0 Anesthesiologists for example arent staff that you want to train haphazardly and go good enoughMy point is that anesthesiologists dont need extra training You arent haphazardly training them and going good enough you are pulling a different specialty that already has the EXACT knowledge you need but they are rarely focused on ICU pulmonary cases and emergency cases They are used mostly for surgery and pain clinics and outpatiet procedures but can absolutely do ICU cases And guess what The intubation is the hard part with the most complications All you need is doctors to be doing that the rest is going to be mostly monitoring making decisions and then resuscitation But the skillset you really need is intubation and monitoring of vitals and any doctors with that skillset anesthesiologists particularly will get called in In reality there are very few critical care specialists who focus only on critical care mostly ICU is now comprised of specialists eg pulmonary specialist cardia specialist etc but the actual work is done by nurses with oversight from doctors Medical school is supposed to give you a broad base to understand all areas and then you pick a specialty Thats why the give doctors the MD before doing specialty training So much of this specialty training is literally acquired by being thrown into the fire learn and then do My relative who was in charge of a large ICU for decades describes his initial experiences on the ICU as really being watch one do one teach one for their procedures You go from watching to doing almost immediately and then they needed him to teach others Medical training isnt as structured as you think in many situations it really is about learning while doing especially when life is on the line and there arent many options|0 It is simple Italians are very scary people and that is good in this situation Also Italians by culture are very very careful when it comes to health therefore food and hygiene|1 With a competent administration and swift action this would affect 5 of the population or 16 million peopleWith the current antiscience shenanigans and Trump in charge this will hit 160 million people and it will ruin the economyYou have the politicians you deserveLast I looked it up USA had tested 5000 people Norway with 54 million inhabitants had tested 8000 South Korea had tested 144000|0 Thats my concern too my grandma has only me and is 80 I cant even visit her to take care of her NOW I even have to risk and go get her food and meds supplies because obv people are assaulting malls I can even live with canned food but she cant ffs wish me luck|1 Only 150000 people die every day total Did you mean per year|0 Our lack of preparation on every front is an embarrassment Weve been warned about the possibility of a pandemic like this for many years even had a few scares and were still caught flat footed|0 Most of my kids extracurricular activities like all football training fixtures have been cancelled indefinitely They seem to be taking this more seriously|0 20172018 the US had 80k people die of flu So 144 for China Lol |0 Did you see the drone shots No its like giving teenagers booze they just ran for the hills with abandon|0 I worked as an intern for a company in China when I was studying abroad My job was to post online about how great the company was 100 a thing in China overall not just governments|1 I would suggest people get superglue for stitches It requires less skill and is way less painful|0 Banks are already signaling leniency for debts during the emergency It wont do the banks any good if every one of their otherwise regularlypaid accounts go under all at once its in their best interest to help businesses with obligations to them stay afloat so they can continue making payments once the economy is able to start moving again|1 Yeah good luck to you Sorry your life has shifted so suddenly|1 Does this justify the toilet paper panic buying|0 Honestly Im trying to decide whether or not it will break the bank to drive and park downtown Toronto for work instead of taking the TTCEDIT To add on to this I feel like there is nobody to talk to about this issue because most people around my office are of the mindset that its just the flu since all the cases we currently have are travel related|1 So my district closed school for a full week but wants the staff to report on Monday to reviewtrain on how to get the curriculum to students at home Not only did we spend last week prepping the kids with online resources and a online meeting area to discuss and review items packets of work were sent home as well Whats the point to close the school then to ask the staff to come in So frustrated|0 damn im just waiting for cases to pop up in windsor|0 It could be a defense mechanism I sometimes slip into feeling weirdly excited like Im watching a work of fiction play out in real life But I snap back to reality Probably mild dissociation which is indeed a defense mechanism Derealization is a form of dissociation where you feel like youre watching a movie|1 Every country that has not significantly stopped spread will have this issue the US is 12 days behind Italy The Mathematics isnt changing|1 One multivitamin a day even one per week is more than adequate You could be eating twinkies and jerky forever with one multivitamin per day and not get scurvy or whatever Twinkies and Jerky sounds like a Jello Biafra band|1 No member of parliment in the UK has caught the virus yetIn Italy the democratic leader has caught the virus im sure has helped the government take this seriouseExpect a huge step of action as soon as someone in the UK parliment gets this thing|1 its amazing to see newyorkers cheer for what in the rest of the world is just a givenits like when you watch those african kids celebrate when theyre given a set of pencils and a notebook|1 Screw the boss|0 The whole financial system is screwed up This is a chance for change Its never going to keep working with 1 having the wealth and 99 scrambling to survive with whats left If we learn anything from this virus maybe we can finally realize that we are literally in this together on one planet There is more than enough to go around its just all skewed at the moment and nobody should have to live under the stresses of this unbalanced system|0 Everyone I know is continuously saying its no worse than the flu it would be good if it got rid of some people We need a plague Like hello we need a systematic cleansing Not a random one We need to get rid of those without common sense Plus even if this is like the flu it has a period of 14 days or so before you even show symptoms Whats to say it isnt doing something else that we havent seen yet |0 GovernorMayor could stop it immediatelyin 2 weeks people may not want to go anywayx200Bairlines are going to cancel flights if nobody wants to flyx200BSalesforce San Franciscos largest private employer announced Monday it is restricting all but the most critical domestic travel along with other precautions due to coronavirus concerns Twitter made a similar move over the weekend and Amazon has done so too|0 Im still baffled by our approach Id like to think they know something the rest of us dont but Im terrified theyre just the blind leading the blind|0 Im sorry you are being downvoted for having fears|0 People think Im nuts but I believe were 23 weeks away from the NHL and NBA having to cancel their postseasons Its irresponsible to have 20000 person arenas fill up at this point|0 Im sorrystay strong Youre doing the best thing for your child|1 Europe needs to act like China didLike the part where they censored the existence of the pandemic or by having random people weld other random people in their homesOr maybe the part where they declared 20 something positive cases while their doctors and nurses were panicked out of their minds since they realised they are exceeding capacity like all the other hospitalsThey literally started a wildfire and we are just supposed to look at the part where they are heroically fighting for the greater goodNono and no|1 Whatever they do I hope they dont close off restaurants Still being able to get something like McDonalds is going to be huge Otherwise everyone will be funneling into the grocery stores and fighting over scraps|1 Its extremely refreshing to see that people share this same sentiment My coworkers are making fun of me for being stressed out My heart is hurting for other people and people at my work even ones that work with me in a BSL2 are not washing their hands properly|1 My neighbor is 81 with multiple health problems I often bring her food and groceries How can I keep her safe She was devastated when I suggested my 3yo not come over for the time being but I think its too risky We live in washington state|0 I feel the same way I teach high school students to be nursing assistants and they have clinical at a nursing home They all drive themselves brand new 17 year old drivers I tell them that if they or their parents think the roads are bad stay home Running late Please dont speed Dont text or call me while you are driving Get there when you get there Be safe We can make up the time you missed|0 Idk if you guys have ever seen a modern concrete building being built but thats not itTheyre placing down plastic moisture barrier and what Pouring a concrete pad nextThis is essentially a giant warehouse or garageA hospital I guess as much as a huge tent is|1 The way it was described on NPR this morning in the US imagine playing baseball in the outfield and your job is to catch fly balls The US is like getting a flyball every few minutes right now In China its like have 100 fly balls in the air at the same time You just cant keep up|1 I cant believe he could say that straight faced when he literally 1 week ago said it was a hoax I mean I can believe it but it still shocks me|0 its ok to be scared but focus on every positive thing within in each day no matter how minimal it may seem i promise that will help you a little each day|1 Yeah we have been ahead of the US in the ramp up for infections but I think we are also ahead on terms of flattening the curveIm starting to feel optimistic here we may get a handle on it before the healthcare system gets too overload but will watch as other areas of the country fare much worse|0 I dont know I wish our government had been run properly for the last 200 years and we would have some solutions|0 It causes heart failure too|0 Brexit is over you moron Ah lets review another of your comments shall we This is a sub for discussing the Coronavirus not for you to turn it into a political event or lick an exRoyals anusAnd yet your comment history on this sub shows youre intent on making it all about a political event criticising the EU and silencing criticism of the government|0 Why did remdesivir fail against Ebola|0 Absolutely We have 12 hospitals 2100 beds in the entire state ERs are consistently busy with long wait times and this is going to get nasty Where are you from if you dont mind me asking|0 And all the people who are extremely obese are on disability because they cant work and they blame their thyroid for their obesity so we have to pay for them|0 Meanwhile a small minority of redditors have been shouted down for the past 60 days for daring to suggest what is now accepted as factI really hope this wakes the world up to the co trol that the media machine hasCriminal negligence from pretty much every government and health authority outside of China BAR HK Taiwan and South Korea has resulted in this pandemic reaching the stage it isAnd as OP states this is not even the beginning We are approximately 6 days behind the curve and with a conservative R0 of 27 it doesnt take a genius to figure out where we are going to be in another 60 days Couple this with the disgraceful obfuscation of Chinas real numbers helped largely in part by the massively concerted efforts of a global propaganda team who managed to convince every shmuck with a normalcy bias cognitive dissonance syndrome and we now have todays dawning realization that we are gonna be so fucked the term 1918s great depression will be something that was the precedent to a global depression that makes the former pale in comparisonStay at home Dont be a selfish dick Be safe And dont poo poo anybody who has a modicum of foresight EVER AGAIN|1 What are you talking about We have the intellect to know that we have to defend ourselves against the plagues of this world Which is why we have to be prepared for anything that comes our way Which is why we just have a military ready for anything that comes our way So we can handle itEdit I thought it was obvious guess not s|1 I dont know I dont pay attention Its a joke to send the people who accused him of being a conspiracy theorist to a conspiracy theory|0 my community college in south eastern PA stated avoid getting corona virus by using common sense Ah yes shit why didnt anybody think of that|0 People should read up stephen Buhners herbal anti viral book Even if you arent interested in natures antivirals he explains how SARS and coronaviruses act in the body in great detail Its very informative and yes healthy people are gonna get it too But their immune systems overreact a cytokine stormRead it if you are genuinely interested|1 Ah yes he definitely should not get healthcare and die because his life has less value since hes homeless and has an addiction right Or did you mean something else|1 I am in fact working in EMS right nowYou are right of courseI was just commenting on the fact that everyone suddenly cries HERO when its actually nothing unusual to transport infectious people while wearing full PPE and the number of calls hasnt increased aswell for most servicesIm not saying its a bad thing to honor people on the frontlines of course ATM the biggest problem for us is supplies running low and having to jump into your PPE everytime you suspect a case of COVID|1 Sorry to hear that |0 Well it IS actually a SARS virus Its called SARSCoV2And while its not a common cold or flu blanket term for respiratory viruses it does share many features with other respiratory viruses in the overall coldflu family As for the similarities to HIV well thats a bit of an overthetop alarmist comparison I mean ya most viruses do share a lot of similarities with HIV Theyre all viruses and have many common behaviors But again this current virus epidemic is much closer to respiratory type viruses rather than HIV|1 10 years of a Conservative goverment who hates and underfunds the NHS and loves austerity will do that|1 No|0 Thanks for your time in laying out the objective situation Maybe you should go work for the CDC as they clearly could use the help Under reporting and downplaying the importance of testing is doing nothing but exacerbating the general distrust we have in govt Thanks again Whats your background If you dont mind me asking|1 Its almost like the cure for AIDS Being injected with all of your cash|1 Which is why the US has been so slow to test even sending out faulty test kits to further delay They dont want to find it|0 In Malaysia the cases seems to have stagnant has been 1819 for a couple of days now But people are being very cautious when going to malls you will see lots of people wearing masks I do think there is a risk and if you could wait it out it would be better However I think the situation is still not as bad as Singapore thankfully|1 If he comes out dressed in his hazmat suit do we panic then|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 we have the worlds most polluted cities corana virus cannot survive for long Just some gallows humor from the India sub|0 So now were willing to take their inferior high false positive tests This was our governments words a day agoAlso why would we need them if our private sector is going to put millions of tests out this week|1 Surgical masks should be worn by the sick because nothing in the mad can get outN95 should be worn by the healthy as it filters the air If an infected person wears an N95 they risk spreading the virus through the filterSaw this mentioned by more than one doctor|0 Alright guys we found the joke We can safely shutter Reddit for the rest of the day GREAT WORK PEOPLE|1 THANK YOU|1 Brilliant|1 Well fucking stated|1 This is why we cant have nice things|0 I didnt vote today I always do but I would have had to drag my little ones with me and it wasnt worth it|0 Just like the simulations|1 It is important that you remember to wash your hands regularly it can have major impact on the spread but it is also important to wash them righthttpswwwwhointgpsccleanhandsprotectionenrcleanhandgang|1 SF just went on a shelter in place order so not sure if theyll be accommodated here|0 No it was about 1270 yesterday in Hubei So this is loweredit 1291 according to sourcehttpwwwecnscnnews20200128detailifzsyram6092990shtml|0 Well this one hashttpswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronavirusanthonyfaucitrumpadminstopsdiscussion20202rUSIRTutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 All Fingers Point At Wuhan Chinahttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoi101002jmv25751utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfhttpsjviasmorgcontent8241899utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfAll Chinese Scientist mixing Carp and Bat Genomes that introduce yes Corona Virus Aka HIV SARS|1 Kids r immune|1 Wow What a comment This is by far the most accurate and insightful comment here That quote from Plato couldnt be more relevant|1 Aspirin is a NSAID Tylenol would be fine|1 If not him then someone else and maybe that someone else wouldnt be so good at saving lives with the money they made|1 Real talk if youre a shepherd farmer woodsman we any kind of oldschool blue collar kind of work its not that weird to have some kind of weapon like this Of course Im not saying its common to have a fucking halberd like the one guy but a long weapon even just a sharpened wooden pole or huge knife is pretty par for the course|1 State of emergency was declared already quite a while ago after the first death For reference there was no state of emergency declared for H1N1 until after 10000 Americans had died|0 And considering how chronic conditions are treated in this insurance market awww hell|0 eah I dont understand why senior officials coordinating to prevent mixed messages is a bad thingThat would be fine if we had any faith whatever in the person they have to seek approval from|1 Ooh Im so sorry to hear about the terrible timing for you as well I hope you can stay safe in all of this |1 Look Always your own bottle instructions not all bleach have the same concentration and not all Bleach is ok to disinfect food or water|1 I take it as good sarcasm thats why I upvoted |1 Imagine he many seniors are going to have to resort to being Cam girls just to pay the bills|0 I think government response is one side of things The other side which is equally or more important is for the public to acknowledge and fear the threat post by this diseaseSingapore has gone through SARS so they are using their respect for SARS to fight COVID19 On the other hand some countries have only gone through the Influenza so they are treating COVID19 as another version of the flu In those cases its is not hard to see why COVID19 is spreading like flu|0 Hang in there friend|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 These mild cases might be partially caused by your diet Check out the hottest post in this sub Dr Campbell talks about vitamin Ds positive effects on respiratory tract infections|1 Well as soon as we have the test to see if someones already had it people who have recovered can go back to work school etc The ones who havent could stay home Theyll likely end up getting it eventually but the lower numbers will flatten the curve and the hospitals would have the resources to handle themWed just have to maintain that for the next 18 months until we have a vaccine|0 Ha schools being reasonable about money Thats a good joke|1 This wasnt even on my radar back in January but it hit my radar about 3 weeks ago At that time I started buying and I will say even just being 3 weeks ahead of the panic was a huge help in terms of preparing|1 I have about a months worth of food and mandatory work from home indefinitelyIf it werent for coronavirus this would be the best month of my life|1 Way too many stupid things to keep track of Can we just declare majority of us are stupid|0 Its like the WHO are watching this on catchup|1 Nobody should be surprised sadlyThis is the American way unless it affects me the best Ill be urged to do is post on social media Nobody took it very seriously when shit was hitting the fan in China Hardly anyone took it seriously while shit hit the fan in Iran and then Italy The US CDC could have been preparing all of that time to take the measures were only now starting to roll out and not even on a national level yet Now that its slowly started to affect us were slowly starting to take action Unfortunately were still not doing enough and we wont until it gets progressively worse and the American population slowly begins to realize this can and is affecting our normal day to day life nowAnd although its convenient we cant even put this all on Trump Okay he fired the pandemic team when he got in office Okay he cut funding to things like FEMA or the CDC But that still doesnt excuse us for not having some sort of action plan already in place long before Trump and a global pandemic actually broke out It also doesnt excuse our pathetically small stockpiles of essential medical supplies especially respiratorsmasks and PPE gear This type of shit should have been planned for ages ago it took multiple Presidentsadministrators to overlook the fact the US Governmentcitizens would one day face a world wide pandemic|0 StudieshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799httpswwwresearchgatenetpublication258525804TestingtheEfficacyofHomemadeMasksWouldTheyProtectinanInfluenzaPandemichttpswwwresearchgatenetpublication258525804TestingtheEfficacyofHomemadeMasksWouldTheyProtectinanInfluenzaPandemicWear a mask even if you dont think you have been infected Keep the N95 ones for professionals and caregivers but wear a washable cloth mask to keep from accidentally infecting others in case you have it and dont know it yet|0 By our leaders logic it is better we die than to cause panic|0 Gain of function Its not that the virus is manmade possibly enhanced Yes it originated in naturehttpswwwnbcnewscomstorylinemersmysterynihliftslimitsmakingdeadlynewviruseslabn831086|1 Ofc people should stay home and avoid unnecessary contacts im fully supporting that and i wholly agree with youI was just trying to say that this is not going to impact young people as much as this|1 I had those same symptoms as well Started with a sore throat and congestion No fever but flulike symptoms and shortness of breath like I couldnt complete an inhale and like someone was sitting on my chest Heavy burning lung feeling congestion and post nasal drip peripheral neuropathy weakness in my legs and arms fatigue lightheaded and dizzy Had a big wave of nausea on day 5 getting out of the shower and had to cradle the toilet bowl for 10 minutes but nothing happened Also had sudden onset of shortness of breath and was out of breath for about two days I was instructed by the nurses hotline Healthline Canada to go to the emergency with a mask on I waited over 5 hours and they told me they werent allowed to test me because I havent recently travelled to an affected area and so I dont meet the CDC algorithm requirements They said they were 100 certain it is walking around the community undetected but they are not permitted to test for it amongst people with no prior travel history They told me to go home and self isolate and treat it as a common cold Developed a light cough today but feeling a lot better Today is day 7 of Symptom onset Shortness of breath developed on day 5 I really hope that was it and its over but who knows Ive done a good job of staying isolated through all of this even around a week before symptoms developed so the chances I gave it to anyone are low I did read this article today saying that not all cases present with fever httpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200123severalchinacoronavirusvictimsdidntevenhaveafeverhttpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200123severalchinacoronavirusvictimsdidntevenhaveafever Overall what I had did feel fairly mild though the trouble breathing and weakness did get a bit scary there for a minute Its also important to say that its difficult to distinguish what symptoms might be exacerbated by anxiety given the circumstances and what is 100 the virusflucold|0 In Germany there is no centralized authority labs have to report to or have to be approved from for this specific virus This way testing is very quick and efficient|1 There are legal penalties for truant students and their parents that vary by state Communities in the US actively combat truancy and I know in some areas families can be evicted from public housing if their children are truant There are cases where parents were fined and went to jail for missing their court date Then there is the matter of who will stay home with the child For many this is not feasible at the time without jeopardizing their livelihoods This is the reality for many Americans where we tout low unemployment rates but we have millions of working poor people|0 Verizon please do the sameedit they did in the article|1 At what point do we stop resisting and just collapse and wait for it to take us|0 No Im in Vancouver Canada Its only just starting to pop off here We went from having a pretty small number for a long time and in the last week or so weve gone up to like 52 between Vancouver toronto and now alberta and Quebec Still relatively low|1 I am interested in how many people could be suffering from long term damage from all different flus and viruses of any type could this explain global behavior if viruses are always evolving are they getting better at attacking the host on multiple levels does past covid viruses make it easier for you to carry and transmit the future versions I wish I had more trust in my government|1 Mass residents please take all necessary precautions and prepare yourselves It is likely that the actual of cases is 10 to 20 times what is being reported evidenced by the fact that a lot of hospitals are already filling up with people labeled as flu patients This is what happens with no testing|0 This isnt even about who pays for it necessarily but who gets it first It will take a long time to manufacture enough for a planets worth of peopleSo when picking who gets what first there are two waysPolitical Bureaucratic rationing either randomly or more likely politicallyOrPricing it based off of demand|1 Too bad this wasnt said in January when it would have mattered Pretty hard to ramp up production when your employees are sick or quarantined|0 Dec first pagie t zero was discovered By Dec 8 dr Li knew of 8 people with ncov 19 By Feb 1 everyone in Wuhan had been exposed Right now there are 15 cases in USA T SAe rate of spread In 5 weeks 11 million Americans can be exploded In 8 weeks the world could be exposed|0 iTs A dEbUnKeD hOaXIt was a hypothetical that was published in the Lancet with a solid pathological basis It isnt debunked httpswwwthelancetcomactionshowPdfpiiS2213260020301168utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmffbclidIwAR38HohuVPN9FbyI0NYik5fVa4I9Jigc6T2spqiG2NCjePgyEQhUOMEVsTA|1 Thanks|1 Best post in a long time|1 Do we think the grocery stores will be shut down or we dont want to go out for 4 weeks Are people starving in Italy|0 Only if we dont conserve the scarce resources for the critical patients ARDS Weve got enough capacity to handle this we just need to keep mildly and moderately ill CV19 patients from tying up limited resources needed by the severely ill The vast majority of CV19 patients never need a hospital or even a doctor They just get better on their own at home and 3550 never have any symptoms The first step is to stop measuring hospital capacity by bedcount because it really hinges on what were using hospital beds to do for CV19 patients Hospitals cana isolate contagious patientsb they can monitor vitalsc for cases that progress to serious pneumonia they can provide first tier supportive care supplemental O2 saline IV and SpO2 monitoringd for severe pneumonia they can provide respirators ICUlevel treatmentToday we typically default to using our hospital capacity for all of the above If we start to max our capacity we can certainly choose to push both a and b to patients and have them monitor mild and moderate flu symptoms at home and have them report twice daily via a website or app Frankly it would be better to just start this whole thing off that way to properly frame expectations and it would actually be better for patients as hospitals are strangely pretty lousy places to get bed restIf that starts to be too much we can even push c into temporary sites or big convention tents in hospital parking lots Another approach is what the Isrealis are prepped for in some areas have paramedics and nurses do house visits to check vitals for those who cant themselves and set up whatever of c is needed at home for patients atrisk but not actually severe If you use the same algos as Amazon Prime and UPS drivers to map routes it can actually be surprisingly efficient and can even automatically text people when they are nextI hope and expect planning and prepping this kind of stuff is what the CDC has spent a little bit of their 10Byr on If not well figure out how to tilt it up pretty quick as none of those logistics are even hard for logistics gurus Frankly the CDC could just ask Amazon to assign their best logistics peopleNow that we know much more about it treating CV19 isnt mysterious nor does it require much in the way of scarce gear If we get high volumes of patients there will be efficiencies of scale because were treating the same nasty but pretty simple thing over and over again Look at what the latest CV19 Critical Care Guidelines say httpsemcritorgibccCOVID19 general principle avoid COVID19 exceptionalism We know how to treat severe viral pneumonia and ARDS Weve been doing this for years There is not yet any compelling evidence that the fundamentals of treating COVID19 are substantially different from treating other forms of viral pneumonia eg influenza The essential strategy of treatment for COVID19 is supportive care which should be performed as it would be done for any patient with severe viral pneumonia For example if you were to simply treat the patient as if they had influenza minus the oseltamivir you would be doing an excellent job Below are some minor adjustments on the care that we provide which might optimize things a bit for treating COVID19 However overall the treatment is fundamentally the same as for treating any viral pneumoniaIm not exagerrating too terribly much in humorously observing that the biggest challenge a really good doctor transported from 1970 to your bedside might have in treating CV19 is figuring out how to call in a prescription on that flat glass thing you keep claiming is a telephoneEdit If youre worried about not having enough mechanical ventilators PPEs or masks during an initial surge ala Wuhan there are much better ways to solve that than widespread lockdowns or shutting down schools Either of those will quickly cause more and worse problems than they solve httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsff2cbjstatisticalanalysisofilicasesintheunitedfjxwpglIn general when one major infrastructure system is under threat of disruption like medical care is now its a really good idea to focus on fixing the specific issues inside that system instead of breaking entire adjacent systems like supply chains and transportation with lockdowns or worker availability with school shutdowns that pull working parents from their jobs 12 of which are medical workers So please spread the word and help us get all the panicked people to stop with the fearbased Hulk SMASH Corona Problem reflexes and give us engineers and scientists who make and fix things a chance to address the actual problems in less disasterous less violent ways|1 And we said China under reported their cases CDC Yes|1 Ah another chipotle addict I know your struggle|0 So it being over by April is a no go|0 Assuming you need to be 18 to fight no idea if that was true in Iran the war was from 1980 1988 so that would make him a minimum 58 years old could be as old as 80s and he likely had some lung damage from gassing not to mention how basically the entire male population of the Middle East smoked at that time|0 Good point I was thinking it was just about the outbreaks down there in Georgia but I bet it is because of the CDC|1 2020 coronavirus outbreak in ItalyThe 201920 coronavirus outbreak was confirmed to have spread to Italy on 31 January 2020 when two Chinese tourists in Rome tested positive for coronavirus disease 2019 caused by SARS coronavirus 2 A cluster of cases were later detected starting with 16 confirmed cases in Lombardy on 21 February an additional 60 cases on 22 February and Italys first deaths reported on the same dayAs of late February Italy was hit harder than anywhere else in the EU by the outbreak and is the country with the thirdhighest number of positive cases and the secondhighest number of deaths in the world after China and South Korea Eleven municipalities in northern Italy have been identified as the epicentres of the two main Italian clusters and placed under quarantine201920 coronavirus outbreakThe 201920 coronavirus outbreak is an ongoing public health emergency of international concern involving coronavirus disease 2019 It is caused by SARSCoV2 first identified in Wuhan Hubei China As of 4 March 2020 more than 93000 cases have been confirmed of which 7100 were classified as serious 80 countries and territories have been affected with major outbreaks in Central China South Korea Italy and Iran2020 coronavirus outbreak in FranceThe 201920 coronavirus outbreak was confirmed to have spread to France on 24 January 2020 when the first COVID19 case in Europe and France was confirmed in Bordeaux It involved a 48yearold FrancoChinese who arrived in France from China Two more cases were confirmed by the end of the day all of the individuals recently returned from ChinaA Chinese tourist was admitted to a hospital in Paris on 28 January and died on 14 February marking the first death from COVID19 in Europe and FranceAs of 1 March 2020 there have been 212 confirmed cases 4 deaths and 12 recoveries in France2020 coronavirus outbreak in GermanyThe 201920 coronavirus outbreak was confirmed to have spread to Germany on 27 January 2020 when the first COVID19 case was confirmed in Bavaria The majority of the COVID19 cases in January and early February originated from Webasto headquarters in Bavaria A total of 14 employees and family members tested positive and were treated at Mnchen Hospital in SchwabingOn 25 and 26 February following a COVID19 outbreak in Italy multiple cases related to the Italian outbreak were detected in BadenWrttemberg PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19aboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 they were saying masks are ineffective i thinkhere they are talking ablut ventilators hospital equipment|0 Noting it for the people who will only read the headline and assume OrlandoDisney Not that Orlando isnt infected by now Obviously it is|1 For treatment of malaria For AdultInitially 620 mg then 310 mg after 68 hours then 310 mg daily for 2 days approximate total cumulative dose of 25 mgkg of base httpsbnfniceorgukdrugchloroquinehtmlFatal dose seems to be from 225g upwards so theres a margin but you can kill yourself if you knock back a whole box of tablets 20x250mg usuallyhttpwwwinchemorgdocumentspimspharmchloroquhtm|0 I live in California and they just closed down almost all the schools state wide yesterday There is next to nothing in some grocery stores yet people are still crowding into the gym and restaurants tonight Its ridiculous|0 Which is why if shit hits the fan Im going to the campground where we store a trailer and hanging out there|0 God help us anticipated 300000000 million dead with ICU 38 percent mortality without draining the lungs Seattle is using robots because 14 doctors ended up infectedWhat the fuck is this Mods can we ban this sort of outright misinformation This guy and many others here are literally trying to scare people|0 When i worked in EMS i loved dropping the EMTALA bomb on hospitals For profit medicine is a joke|1 Oh my god Im more excited about quarantining than I should be My hobbies include sitting at home on electronics for fun|1 It is those same government decision makers that will pay a price just like everyone else The virus does not discriminate|1 Total insanity that we have not closed the borders|0 Okay this is mostly based on conversations with some people who work in finance or study economic But my understanding is that any time you have something like a major natural disaster war or other crisis you have a negative impact on the economy in the short term but often times a positive impact in the long run If you wipe out supply you have an increased demand That doesnt mean that the economy stops it just means a shift in how its functioning Ive heard the argument made that so much of the united states growth from the 1950s onward was a direct result of WWII I think there is research on how natural disasters can have a similar positive impact in the long run I think this relates to creative destruction or some similar theory|1 So you get kicked out after the pandemic is over Thats worth it for the people who cant afford to pay rent and eat with unemployment after all our jobs become non existent|0 Pretty standard for news media nowadays they love the sound of their own voice|1 Shit dude Lay off the Adderall|0 Goberts a piece of shit He gave it to Mitchell who gave it to his dad His dad is in the risk group|0 people with flu ugh i dont feel well im going to stay in bedpeople with coronavirus i think ill go on a fun trip maybe skiing in the italian alpsor a cruise the world is my oyster|0 I cant help wondering if all the conspiracy theories about the US are trueI agree clearly its all alien shapeshifting reptilians running the US|0 Thats horrible|0 My grandpas birthday was yesterday and I cant reach him on the phone but I will stay home the care home officially banned non essential starting today|1 Your example does not quite fit because the surgical mask is different from a n95 Reference httpswwwcdcgovnioshnpptlpdfsUnderstandDifferenceInfographic508pdfhttpswwwcdcgovnioshnpptlpdfsUnderstandDifferenceInfographic508pdfSecond you assumed if youre just out in public the amount of exposure is so much lower that the benefit do you have any source or reference for that It would be great if you can provide a link Considering the undertested cases around the nation the long incubation period and it is infectious even before the symptoms appear How do you evaluate the risk of exposure especially for the states like WA CA and NY For some of counties that the virus is the most severe does it still hold true for the healthy people in those counties that the risk of exposure is low Im not saying that wear the mask is 100 the correct answer It is just all the explanations that I have heard so far do not make much sense to me Under the circumstance of lacking real numbers I prefer to believe wearing the mask helps because this is the advice and a common practice in China which is one the first country in the world that is actually controlling the virus well in spite of the wrong reactions of Wuhan in December which caused the large scale spreading in the first place|1 You got any proof that it is active suppression and not just incompetence plus bureaucracy at its finest Because Ive worked for the government and I dont think it is nearly as organized and efficient as people seem to think it is when they talk about conspiracies Not saying there havent been conspiracies just that not everything is planned all that well and youd be shocked by how under prepared we are for stuff like this The CDC has been underfunded for years and the CDC currently has vacancies that havent been filled|1 I thought its already proven to be incorrect They werent arrested in the first place and they were only questioned and original post had said it was SARS but since they werent sure of it back then they didnt want to spread panic and thats why they had the post taken down|0 Im not agreeing with you 100 yes I am always risk but there is no vaccine right now and we dont have antibodies against the virus The dutch government doesnt say we have to follow a certain protecol right now so we need to take our own safety measures|1 Racism is bad enough but depriving a child of pizza is criminal|0 Due to the huge consumption of land and other resources China has promoted abandoned burials for many years Twenty years ago the walls of rural China were filled with signs promoting cremation And for infectious diseases corpses can cause transmission cremation is a basic requirement and it is not surprising|1 I hate to root for someone to get a lifethreatening virus but it would be a little ironic|0 A therapeutic could be available well before a vaccine Ideally this would reduce the number of people who need intensive care including respirators The Foundation has organized a Therapeutics AcceleratorhttpswwwgatesfoundationorgTheOptimistArticlescoronavirusmarksuzmantherapeutics to look at all the most promising ideas and bring all the capabilities of industry into play So I am hopeful something will come out of this It could be an antiviral or antibodies or something elseOne idea that is being explored is using the blood plasma from people who are recovered This may have antibodies to protect people If it works it would be the fastest way to protect health care workers and patients who have severe disease|1 Thank you just for asking The response to this has been overwhelming and heartwarming In just 24 hours 150 people have joined our rcovid19 Rosetta group It is so great to see so many people stepping up in whatever way they can to help fight COVID I really appreciate you getting institutional backing Im working on that right now too Fuck COVID We are going to beat it|1 Im with ya I cannot believe this is incompetence by all the worlds experts My gut says there is more to the story|0 The psychologicalplacebo part is hugely important hereBecause the recovered are earing about every day they cant take distance anymore This leads to emotive fatigue insomnia short periods of sleepPost traumatic effect|0 Same to you my friend We can do this|1 Thank you The chinese government built hospitals out of nowhere for all the people left to die People would shit on any effort without thinking twice|0 Yer but little orange man dumb i thought are fool leaders were educated|0 No my point wasnt that there only exists dentists over here My point is that there are significant expat populations in the west of Persians so its very plausible that someone knows enough of them in day to day life to be reasonably informed about Iranian culture like Nowruz and the Guardian Council and the daily fluctuations in currency due to different events causing anguish to local residents and Zoroastrianism and how candidates are approved to run for office and enough that they can get by in a conversation and enough to be genuinely interested and informed of overall trends Additionally there is disparate opinions in different parts of Iran right Like its a definite truth that a student at Sharif University or a young doctor in Tehran has a different opinion of the election and candidates than a dude out in like Beluchistan|1 We need to stop putting celebrities and athletes on a pedestal|0 I think someone needs to start a foldinghome team and publish it If no one does by EOD I will|0 Im sure many are glad they stayed open|1 Cant count as a victim of the corona virus if you never test them whackjob politicians|1 Thank you much appreciated And if you guys have any questions please let me know|1 Thats what Ive been saying Shit started going downhill since then|0 Tolerance I was up there at my peak Now Im two months clean Marijuana isnt fun anymore once you get to that level of tolerance but you need it not to feel like total shit Im committed to two years THCfree and then Ill probably take it up again Hopefully there will be more progress on the legal front by then as well|1 I actually get full pay for a week than statutory sick pay after that but most people dont have that luxury and are understandably panicking over what to do Self isolation only works on these large scales if the population can afford to do so Like you say its really sad and will affect how the virus spreads and its something Boris and his cronies dont seem to care about|0 The CCP are completely inept and run by old drunk men who think theyve seen the world Theyd never listen to doctors or healthcare professionals when they can drink baijiu for lunch and come up with their own ideasSo no they wont know the correct numbers and they wont care|0 Underrepresented If anything smokers are overrepresented in hospitalized cases Theres a new paper summarizing clinical characteristics of Covid patients from China Smokers were only 12 of the patient sample but 26 of the patients who needed intensive care or died See this table httpswwwnejmorgna101homeliteratumpublishermmsjournalscontentnejm0nejmaheadofprintnejmoa20020322020022802imagesimgxlargenejmoa2002032t1jpeghttpswwwnejmorgna101homeliteratumpublishermmsjournalscontentnejm0nejmaheadofprintnejmoa20020322020022802imagesimgxlargenejmoa2002032t1jpeg|0 Mongolia is number 1They their bordersFrench guy defied quarantine and went around town for days Now theyve pretty much locked down city|1 We think we do I dated one once But I know doctors are like every day people Hippocratic oath and all that I dont think anyone would risk their own lives for a job I would certainly quit my job if I knew it had dangers But time will tell There are many more good generous people than selfish ones Hope springs eternal|1 The role of ACE2 is known since 2003 Josef Penninger et al showed that ACE2KnockOffMice are immune to sars It is known that this coronavirus enter cell by docking to this rezeptorAfter the virus is inside the cell it will reduce ACE2 expressionReduced ACE2 expression is proofed to lead to higher severe lung failureKuba K Imai Y Rao S Gao H Guo F Guan B Huan Y Yang P Zhang Y Deng W Bao L Zhang B Liu G Wang Z Chappell M Liu Y Zheng D Leibbrandt A Wada T Slutsky A S Liu D Qin C Jiang C Penninger J M 2005 A crucial role of angiotensin converting enzyme 2 ACE2 in SARS coronavirusinduced lung injury Nat Med 11 8759Imai Y Kuba K Rao S Huan Y Guo F Guan B Yang P Sarao R Wada T LeongPoi H Crackower M A Fukamizu A Hui C C Hein L Uhlig S Slutsky A S Jiang C Penninger J M 2005 Angiotensinconverting enzyme 2 protects from severe acute lung failure Nature 436 112116Nicotin seems to influence ACE2 expression httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6295500ACEInhibitors that many people take for high blood preasure influence ACE2 expression too it is the way they workTLDRPeople taking pills for their bloodpreasure or consuming nicotin seem to have a much higher risk|0 Intracellular zinc ions so youd need a zinc ionophore like chloroquine to actually have any real uptake httpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticlefiguresid101371journalpone0109180|1 Young people were never immune to the worst of it |0 Like marble and other porous stone Youre not supposed to use most cleaning products on thesr types of surfaces So Im curious as well how we should disinfect|1 You know those banks gave the seller the money that you bought your house for right Banks lose money on foreclosures they dont make money on them If you stop paying youre the one who is stealing at this point not the bank They offer ways for you to stay in your home at their cost just to avoid having to foreclose Youve been brainwashed If you are the voice of our future I fear for it|0 Its also easier to drink in Norway |1 You will wear a mask everytime you go out people in germany are told its not necessary as long one doesnt work in the hospital its more accepted to cough in each others faces than to wear a mask wonder if that will change|1 Well a school near me was already closed because someone got it This thing is spreading and unless something drastic happens it wont come to a halt|1 Just allergies I think Pretty sure anyways Its gonna be a rough allergy season I usually dont feel it until theres pollen everywhere|1 Centuries at least yes|1 Just to elaborate for others reading Guaifenesin is an expectorant It helps to move the crud out Dextromethorphin is a suppressant and helps lower the urge to cough Typically you take them together because coughing that crud up is important and suppressing it could be bad on its own and slow recovery so the expectorant helps get the same stuff up despite the suppressed coughingIn this case C19 one of the most concerning complications is respiratory distress and failure Taking an expectorant without suppressing the cough may be a greater help to people with C19 as you want to be getting out as much as possible and not just be offsetting the stuff left behind by less coughing|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Yum yum narm mum like edibles|1 This is absolutely terrifying Thank you for the link|0 I know I am almost out of my Costco sized fruit snacks Im seriously going to have to go back|0 Yes And its Transmission rates to date|1 Get a dose of nature or wildlife from all over the world There are numerous live webcams many are educational and others are simply fascinating and entertaining Heres a couple of my favoriteshttpsexploreorglivecamshttpsexploreorglivecams Cornell Lab Bird Camshttpcamsallaboutbirdsorgchannel49CaliforniaCondor|1 Ok sorry|1 Longer than that if decontamination if real estate and commodities are considered a store could lose not only weeks of sales the stand to lose all perishable goods and all classes of inventory are effected by decontamination Consider how costly it is to fumigate a housenow consider a 20k square foot store Worse part is this is not preventable at Walmart because have you seen the assholes that shop there Gross This is will happen so they are leaning in on medical|0 Im glad I can work from Home during this Less risk of my company realizing they dont need me|1 True But youre recovered and not dead Thats got to count for something|1 Everyone has taken freshman biology stop with the pedantics please Even virologists and other medical professionals use the word kill when discussing viruses|0 Whelp Basically its the USS Diamond Princess now|1 Yeah its correct according to wikipedia|1 Why would you go to Germany when we have some incredible universities already working on this And hes all about bringing jobs back to the United States What a hypocrite|1 Even it it doesnt filter anything it will keep you reminded to not touch your face So it will still be valuable|1 What about lethality Man I get confused here as to what to think|0 TBH idk what youre talking about the headline of the New Yorker online the other day was COVID19 and how to deal with a pandemicNYT has been covering it pretty wellDon Lemon talked about it for like 20 minutes and did interviews on CNN primetimeThe only thing thats fishy is that theres only 15 cases in the US that seems a little FISHY to me if you ask but I wouldnt blame journalists quite yet|1 Yep My 68 yr old mom said it yesterday Fing scary|0 You forgot Taiwan As of writing a cumulative total of 402 cases have been reported including five confirmed cases 190 individuals removed from the followup list and 207 under quarantine for lab tests of who preliminary tests were negative in 88 and tests of the others are pending Five confirmed cases are in a stable condition and being treated in isolation at the hospitalhttpswwwcdcgovtwEnBulletinDetailxqKoyQbbLYCBTwQvFpdcBAtypeid158|0 Downplaying the problem Cutting budgets Sticking their head in the sand erc|0 As much as I think its stupid theres no reason to stop a religious group from meeting If they choose to gather anyways thats their prerogative Besides if their God is the one and only true God then he will either protect the meeting group from the virus or convince leadership to cancel the meeting|1 Just do your best to mitigate your exposure to it Thats all you can do besides good hygiene which it sounds like you already practice Dont go to crowded venues for awhile You have to make harder decisions over the next few months but you can do this|1 To give a strange case Im in my 30s I have had great cardiovascular shape for most of my life However in 2015 I moved to a new region got sick and now Im on respiratory immunosuppressants for something no immunologist can actually figure out its just chalked up to allergies and reactive asthma but with no clear cause Its likely that I just have a strongly overreactive immune system to some unknown allergen or virus I have to deal with now Since we cant figure out what the allergen is that caused this or what I am hypersensitive to now its more of a treat the problem than solve the problem scenario Ive moved three times to get to a place where I am less susceptible to issuesIn the past I would have mostly shrugged at this virus as a strong flu I could easily get over I had great mile times when running and worked out 5 days a week However it took nothing more than a strange few months of lung issues to fuck shit up for me This coronavirus terrifies me as Im very much at high risk for this causing serious drama I get sick with all sorts of respiratory viruses every season and have to get vaccines for most of them every year If this breaks out in the US I probably wont leave my house|0 Im freaking out too Trying so hard to change my mindset Sending hugs |0 Sadly no 100 million is not close to the likely number I was trying to give the most conservative estimate possible Most experts put it between 40 and 70 percent of the world getting coronavirus over the next year So thats likely closer to 150 million people in the USBetween 160 million and 214 million people in the United States could be infected over the course of the epidemic according to a projection that encompasses the range of the four scenarios That could last months or even over a year with infections concentrated in shorter periods staggered across time in different communities experts said As many as 200000 to 17 million people could diehttpswwwnytimescom20200313uscoronavirusdeathsestimatehtml|0 They do not impound nonGerman and nonFrench containers and steal stuff from the SwissThey dohttpswwwtagesanzeigerchschweizstandarddeutschlandblockiertsogarschweizerimporteausdrittstaatenstory21141347Die Schweiz bestellt Schutzhandschuhe fr ihre rzte In China Weil die Schweiz keinen Hafen hat kommt die Lieferung ber Deutschland Deutschland lsst jetzt den Container nicht durchhttpswwwtagesanzeigerchschweizstandarddeutschlandblockiertsogarschweizerimporteausdrittstaatenstory21141347httpsblogfefedetsa0993300httpsblogfefedetsa0993300|0 The biotech company is a startup SolGent Solutions for Genetic Technologies fyiMany others have reported they are exporting to the USANamely Seegene LabGenomics and PCL|1 The poorest are split between Republicans and people who are victims of election fraud long waits mysteriously missing voting registration etc|0 Yes I love how this issue still cant entice people to washing there hands So many people at my work go into the bathroom drop a nasty shit and walk out without washing their hands In a professional environment mind you|0 Okay but what can you prove with this petition Its not that he will resign|0 This is a key question If they are counting people that never got hospitalized in the first place the recovery statistic wont be very useful|0 Yep and I think part of them know and keep it for themselves And most of it dont know|1 Stress does weaken yoir immune system|0 Wuhan tested and approved|1 Yeahthe idea that any American government will supply a citizen with food during quarantine is laughable|1 Whats the alternative Everyone stay home and get free moneyThere are real costs to real diseases Nurses need to be paid Pharmacy workers need to be paid Drug manufacturers need employees Chemical companies that make the precursors need workers We need a productive economy to fight thisYou dont bear the unexpected costs of an expensive disease by cutting back that means you make less money You need money to buy food The food doesnt fill the shelves on its own people have to be at work to bake the bread|1 Still not an excuse to spread unsourced information about a very serious event|0 The picture looks like a set of PCR reagents|1 some but not all international travellers It makes sense to close your borders to the highest risk countries|0 I bought some dogecoin in 2014 People barked at me at work Very joke much loser Now I am wishing I had bought more dogecoin in 2014 lol|1 We need to check for dead bodies stuffed behind that shower curtain We already know they are therejust need a head count|0 Perfectly explained what Ive been saying We elected a party that is weak and fumbling this They have no plans to deal with a crisis and they seem way out of their depth right now I know everyone is but I cant help but think our PM simply isnt strong enough to get us through this in the best manner|0 he used the attack on the parliament building as an excuse to say the communists are attacking so he could use a special law that temporarily gave him all the power but he also used intimidation as a way to get congress members to vote for him|0 That is a tough balance Im blessed in that I work from home and have little kids so I can control the schedule without them noticing for the most partIs anyone feeling unwell in your family Because then you could be able to turn it from we dont want to catch this to we are being socially responsible which is annoying but less scary for a teenEven if you cant cease contact with the outside world you can nudge things towards a better path Make sure your fam knows how long to wash hands sanitize things in the home and car handles etc Also I know they say masks wont help but A they keep you from touching your face and B people seem to give you some distance Good luck in achieving the balance between safety and sanityEdit words|1 I feel like Im taking up that 5 by myself some days|1 Australia did spend 26m on Christmas Island to host an a family of four asylum seekershttpswwwtheguardiancomaustralianews2020jan26insidechristmasislandtheaustraliandetentioncentrewithfourasylumseekersanda26mpricetag might as well put more people in it Otherwise the 90 security personnel contractor is gonna be a waste|1 This is my takeaway too I glare at ignorant posts like the OP who have zero grasp of the situation Everyone around the world pretending this is nothing is the absolute worst possible scenario because it would spread like wild|0 As I understand it its the sbortterm interbank market that got the 15T Thats concerning because it implies banks were going to stop trading with each other The bond market is getting 60B tbill purchases|0 Wait seriously Like everyone Can you share info on why that is I havent been scared but you kinda just scared me|1 Challenge Accepted|1 no|0 Now to wait to see if the Olympics get cancelled|0 Wasnt sure what sub I was in But guhrisk tolerance etc|1 I am feeling happier and happier with my decision to fill out the Aliyah application Going to Ulpan in July and I cant wait|1 What does this mran to need a permit To go to hospitals or to leave the house at all|0 I really hope they dont postpone my exams I want them over with|1 Ive heard this from friends in HK who lived through SARS We would be much better here in the US is everyone would wear a mask but people wont do it|1 Entire body being hairless also a great idea fingers are a great place to start|1 which is smart so everyone can get some You dont need 30 hand sanitizers people need to stock up but not hoard 4the limit of the big ones should last you through the crisis right|0 Good Im glad they are taking the proper steps I know closing schools cause undesired consequences but is the alternative really any betterIm curious are parents in NY still sending their children to school during this I know some are but I wonder what the ratio is Anyone have some insightI decided on Friday I wouldnt be sending my daughter to school until I knew more about what was going on Thankfully our governer Illinois also decided that day that all schools K12 should remain closed until the end of the month|1 Heard about hand sanitizer and cleaning chemicals being sold out not to mention toilet paper but dont hear crap about soap being out of stock haha|1 They are hospitalized and treatedWe are a shitty country most times but that does not mean we would let anyone suffer|0 That man is a hero|1 Yea itll be the harsh awakening to reality they will have to come to terms with everything instantly we have been coming to terms for weeks or months itll be traumatic I suspect|0 Plenty say they will vote for her party this year 41 colmar brunton poll nz latest poll sorry dont know how to link on mobile|1 Remember this lesson At least 80 of the population is simply not capable of critical thinnking andor of breaking out of their cognitive biases Therefore when something extremely unusual yet very foreseeable comes along they CANNOT see it until the authorities tell them This is why MSM is so powerfulAdditionally those of you who easily saw this coming will break into a few categories One group like me has a large number of people who trust and believed me when I told them what was about to happen The second group like young me will not be heard due to either youth or failure to build trust in your relationships prior to this event Remember the 80 do not decide by critical thinking but by finding a trusted person to follow often someone who has helped them in the past Be that person|1 They are using methanol for their hand sanitizer This is not good Basically when they distill the alcohol the first part that comes out isnt meant to drink so they make a cleaner out of ithttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6069146Alcoholbased hand rub hand sanitizer is heavily used in the community and the healthcare setting to maintain hand hygiene Methanol must never be used in such a product because oral pulmonary andor skin exposures can result in severe systemic toxicity and even deaths However sporadic cases of acute poisoning indicate that alcoholbased hand rub with undeclared methanol may be found in the market from time to time The unexpected presence of methanol poses a serious threat to public health Unintentional ingestion by young children and inadvertent consumption by older subjects as alcohol ethanol substitute can occur Methanol is more lethal and poisoning often requires antidotal therapy in addition to supporting therapy and critical care However specific therapy may be delayed because the exposure to methanol is initially not suspected When repeatedly used as a hand rub skin absorption resulting in chronic toxicity eg visual disturbances occurs particularly if methanol induced desquamation and dermatitis are present|1 Dont worry about those people generalizing and wishing death on reddit Most people on here are antisocial weirdos whove never worked a day in their life and fail to realize that people over there are still humans like us Its the government that should be at fault but instead people would rather use a terrible situation to push their racist views on reddit Best of luck to you and your country|0 Its a very difficult situation Apologies I was just talking out of my arse|0 you know Ive had this thought for awhile and I try to find a reason why To trim down our baby boomer population that will strain our medicare and social security to postpone or cancel the election to allow Trump to look like a hero if a curetreatment is found I dunno|1 Exactly the same symtoms Im on my 5th day It started when I came back from DC The test was denied in CA They told me they will test my when I will start suffocating I dont want to reach that point|0 Ok just want you safe brother I wish you and the people of wuhan the best Thank you very much for keeping us up to date on the reality of the situation|1 Honestly shocked more islands arent doing this Hawaii should have shut shit down weeks ago|0 Fair point|1 this is probably the saddest thing ive read in a long time good luck fellow humans|1 Wrong and Im sorry that you were too naive to listen to the news as it occurred Have fun looking for TP and essential goods while the rest of us prepared for our families|0 Walk everyday live during the worst times of china work during the worst times of china|0 Dont bring a gun to a tank fight|0 We live with my fil who needs hemodialysis If you stop hemodialysis you die within a month Nurses have said its one of the best deaths in that you basically sleep more and more until you die in your sleep However fluid retention causes pain and in my fil it compromises his breathing Most people begin storing excess fluids in their legs Eventually if it builds up enough it enters the chest cavity impeding the lungs and heart My fils body immediately begins storing excess fluids in his chest his legs never swell So not too sure how peaceful his death from lack of dialysis would actually beIm waiting on responses from our Public Health Department and his clinic|0 This seems to be a common criticism but yes it definitely does and there is some population skew Im greatly simplifying for the sake of just a literally back of the envelope illustration But the population skew doesnt change the math that much|1 There is no reason why you have to be For years I was the eternal pessimist then I realized it just never makes matters better It always makes them worse|0 American shithole is going to be worse than Italy|0 Isnt the UK trying to get everyone infected so they have a massimmunity to the virus or something like that Damn before that happens their hospitals will be completely overwhelmed Countless people will die Wtf are they thinking|0 Itll probably be worst for Mom and pop shops|0 The fake news would never never report something false|0 Its right to criticize their handling of it|0 I imagine most mild cases will assume they just have a cold or the flu and self medicate|0 Right but Canada could still ban all non commercial travel at least|0 National Grid tried to pull the same shit after Hurricane Sandy when the power was out for 10 days They replaced their detailed power outage map with exact numbers with a very general one with no info They ended up getting kicked out of Long Island due to the awfulness of how they handled everything|0 Pretty sure they were making a joke Also hes not wrong My brother lives right next to a food market in Chinatown and he says its pretty unsanitary doesnt make a huge difference that theyre wearing masks Nothing against Chinese people but I used to live in FiDi and I would go through Chinatown regularly Definitely not the cleanest place in NYC although the food is great|1 Take three deep belly breaths Everything is going to be different but all will be ok This too shall pass|1 Far fetched and very misguided For instance when in the US military you get a sunburn that is considered destruction of government property by the UCMJ|0 The point is that if he went that far theres no way he could walk it back without bruising his ego BAD|0 Can you now see in hindsight that you maybe have been a bit overdramatic here and have stirred up anxiety for no reason at allSome people are actually genuinely worried here|0 Yes|1 Just scanned if there was anything after Trudeaus speech and the only thing I found was the border closing He spoke about some stimulus a couple of days ago but so far its just air but Im not surprised I hate to say this but Im not very optimistic about federal government action Ontario only mentions sick leave and job guarantee It mentions leave but doesnt say whether its paidif it is it would be a blow to your business since youd need to cover salaries while getting no income I dont know what else to suggest other than if you have a good MPP or MP they might be able to give you some pointers being on the inside of the government structure There are some good ones there and if none in your area you might want to reach to another riding or try Doug Ford directly Tweet if you need send him a private message Calling his office might be useless because he must be swamped as it isThe other option is to stay open and take precautions but depending on which area youre in it might be risky Heres the link to what Ontario will do and Im not clear on how this would impact employees who are not sick httpsnewsontariocaopoen202003premierfordannouncesjobprotectionforworkersduringthecovid19situationhtmlhttpsnewsontariocaopoen202003premierfordannouncesjobprotectionforworkersduringthecovid19situationhtmlLong term you are right to be concerned about the long term impact on business I hope you will be able to get through this ok and keep your business Good luck |1 Yeah I think Americans are biased towards assuming disasters wont be that bad because usually they arent But usually doesnt mean always In 1970 a cyclone struck Bangladesh and India killing over 500000 people In 2004 the Boxing Day Tsunami killed nearly 230000 people Even in developed countries Japan perhaps one of the most prepared countries in the world for seismic disasters saw 20000 killed by the 2011 earthquake tsunami and California a state that is incredibly well prepared for handling wildfires had a town of 27000 people burned clean off the map in the 2018 Camp Fire All of these disasters were exceptional but they prove that exceptions happen and it seems like COVID19 is another exception Unlike other disasters however it will not naturally finish until it hits every corner of the globe and efforts to fight it seem to be thus far ineffective outside of a handful of countries Hopefully people will realize this time really is different in time to put up an effective fight|0 When studying other countries handling of this well dont overly cheer we are still likely fucked But we have bought ourselves some more days of normalcy But the Canadian government is at least trying to keep calm and keeping those channels open with the people Even if they are still keeping a few things under wraps They are setting a corona testing site in Guelph already So they know what it is coming Hope people are ready The best option so far is for treatments to be developed in order to make people feel a tad more at ease The markets are tanking right now so this could add up quick If too much is added on top of this uneasy house of cards|1 Wow really Like betrayed how|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 uSecretAgentIceBat might be of help here|1 80 have it its that contagious|0 Yeah its difficult with anxiety Also the not sleeping I teeth grind at night and wonder if its allergies or something causing it all Any breathing exercises you can recommend|1 Actually I would guess that even workaholics would rather stay home when theyre sick with the flu or something similar|0 YOU YA GOT COVID NINETEEEENBut you say hes just a friend|1 He refused to even talk about the subject and said it was like any other virus|1 Did not know about the fire righters from Kirkland and Redmond Why are they in quarantine|0 The Rnaught is so high they know there is no stopping this thing They need to save space for those with severe pneumonia|0 My SO called his daughterinlaw who is a PA at the biggest university hospital in the state She told him they were fully prepared and did not foresee any issues that everyone who needs hospitalization is over 80 and it is just a bad cold I nearly fell in the floor and told my SO she isnt allowed here until this is overMy sister is a home health nurse who was very concerned weeks ago now says we need to let it run its course and let things fall where they may I told her that would lead to a half million dead Americans minimum and she told me I was exaggeratingI hope every medical professional can take any and all measures to keep themselves safe Hopefully some will get mild symptoms and quickly recover so they can be at the center of taking care of new cases I fear the impact on healthcare in the future if we cant protect those who provide it Why would anyone become a nurse if the nation makes them expendable by inaction Please be safe|1 Index caseThe index case sometimes colloquially referred to as patient zero is the first documented patient in the onset of an epidemiological investigationor more generally the first case of a condition or syndrome not necessarily contagious to be described in the medical literature whether or not the patient is thought to be the first person affected An index case will sometimes achieve the status of a classic case study in the literature as did Phineas Gage the first known person to exhibit a definitive personality change as a result of a brain injuryThe index case may or may not indicate the source of the disease the possible spread or which reservoir holds the disease in between outbreaks but may bring awareness of an emerging outbreak Earlier cases may or may not be found and are labeled primary or coprimary secondary tertiary etc The term primary case can only apply to infectious diseases that spread from human to human and refers to the person who first brings a disease into a group of people PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 They may be hero but not the Chinese government dont give credit to Chinese government|0 Australia We are doing much better than USA but it was a pretty low bar|1 But the first patient took more than 1 month to die in China 20 days since the virus was confirmed outside China means nothing lol|0 Nonsense Intubation the act of intubating someone aerosolizes particles Being intubated the state of having a tube in does not In fact pandemic protocols suggest increasing the use of intubation and decreasing the use of noninvasive oxygen supports like high flow nasal cannula and bipap because those modalities increase aerosolization while intubation does not The ventilator and patient create a closed circuit it doesnt blow particles into the room|1 Sounds goodIT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPSWhat we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|1 FFS this is why this virus will be around for a long time I do not care if COVID19 testing is free if just a routine check costs the patients guess what is going to happenSuck it up and spread that virus into WAVE 2 or 3 |0 Look at you and your reading comprehension skills Ill just trust you on this cuz tldr|1 This is amazing I hope Spain and other countries do the same|1 From what I understand thats because the common cold has many mutations and vaccine would need to work on all of them Influenza vaccine works pretty well because there are only several strains per year|1 In louisiana theyre not testing anyone You have to meet strict criteria to get tested and a bunch of paperwork and a referral from your doctor Then you have to go to a testing facility They went through over 400 tests in a day and had to turn people away When they asked what they should do they were told to call their doctors and theyd figure it out Louisianas numbers per capita for coravirus are insane and so is the growth rate and lack of action testing I think it has a lot to do with a fear of lack of income here though|0 Im not disagreeing with youPersonally they should have closed borders when it hit 1000 cases|1 Oklahoman here this is pretty par for the course Next the governor will sign more tax breaks for big oil and the mayor of OKC will simultaneously announce a new MAPS project and another pedestrian bridge that spans I40 thats supposed to look like an animal but actually just looks like a crane fell over Oh and itll have mood lighting that blinds you at 2am|1 someone else needs to open up a competitive businessSure and then in six months or a year when weve dealt with this the demand for masks drops like a stone the price for masks drops like a stone and one of the two companies goes out of businessThats not gonna motivate me to start up a business|1 Thankfully no But I know plenty of people that are and its crazy busy everywhere|0 Ah my bad I was thinking of annual visitors from Wuhan not the current number strandedEdit damn 20000 is still a lot|0 Really Thats interesting|1 Well technically its not that SKs rate is too low its that Wuhans was insanely too high because they missed all the cases that should have gone into the denominator and SK didntHowever in measuring efficacy theyll clearly use some more objective metric like case progression from one level to the next Like if it makes a Level 2 patient 50 less likely to advance to Level 4 severity|1 yup fuck em|0 I agree the of tests ARE lacking Testing is done just not where it needto be|1 No you dont Especially when its hell wrecking the world apart staythefuckhome|0 Just do a costco run nobody thinks you look crazy Anyone will assume you have a family to feed with a filled grocery cart|0 Westchester county resident and an eye doctor Found out one of the positive cases was a patient of our office but hasnt been in for years The hysteria here is real and people are buggin out Even a lot of doctors are buying into some of the lies like wearing crappy makeshift masks helping you theyre just not thinking I had one of the slowest Saturdays in the last few years this weekend as a result of this|0 Hiding symptoms is extra fucked up You cant even feign ignorance|0 When I read about a mandatory quarantine I said to myself dont threaten me with a good time Im a homebody as it is so being home for two weeks so I can play videogames watch movies read books and just relax would be amazing Unfortunately its going to continue to spread The only thing we can do is prepare practice good hygiene and remain calm|1 No real countermeasures and the numbers doubling roughly every 48 hours means we will have had half of the population infected in 30 days from now|0 Even for privileged rich narcissists they realize that diseases and death are the one thing they cant talk their way through All the rich people Ive had contact with mention health and death far more often than the other end I doubt he cares if its widespread or not in the US at all but that personal fear of catching itoh its real now|0 I mean if youre already talking about countries doing stuff maybe the US could bomb the virus everywhere it appears That does seem to be their modus operandi|0 They said they do not reduce the chances of being infected httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh7u2qhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh7u2q In general masks will not really reduce the chances of uninfected people from acquiring COVID19x200BThen the NIH says that they do work are reducing the chances of being infected httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5779801httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5779801Eight of nine retrospective observational studies found that mask andor respirator use was independently associated with a reduced risk of severe acute respiratory syndrome SARSx200BI get it that the answer is nuanced and it is possible that wearing a mask could actually increase the risk if it cause you to fiddle with it Also my gripe isnt necessarily with the Harvard AMA as they did give more information on why people wear them wrong but they still said that they are not effective counter to other experts Many of the experts are not giving such nuanced responses and just saying they dont work and actively encouraging people not to buy them There is a big different between messaging of Masks work only when you wear them correctly and follow proper protocol make sure you are educated on how to wear them to maximize the efficacy and Masks dont work even if they did you dont know how to wear them and should not bother even trying So I agree with you I just think the messaging in general needs to be fixed My post was saying that you should question the messaging if it seems wrong I do not see how that is bad When Harvard and the NIH disagree calling people names for questioning who is more of an authority on the subject adds no value to the conversation and only stigmatizes people from making informed decisions|0 Booked a 3 month trip to Europe back in July 2020 Have never been never had the opportunity until now Decided to do it cause I got really sick last year with influenza and thought fuck it could have died Better go overseas before I never get the chance Planned for it for months been working 3 jobs to fund it Made this reddit account just to get travel tips itinerary help etc Flights were booked for April 2020 And now that fucking virus comes in and fucks it all up I dont see any vacation any time soon I dont think Ill see any of my money back either Fuck you coronavirus FUCK YOU|0 Hey This is me This was day 4 1012hr shifts for me and am working a ton of hours helping get the drive through clinic up and running I was in this position because my hips get stiff and this helps me stretch them out This pic was snapped at the very beginning of the day before we had any patients hence the face touching and lack of PPE Id just put my head in my hands for a second Anyway I have to work a night shift so Im going to sleep but ama if you want|1 I guarantee you SOME of these people will get it Some of their family members will Some of their friends and coworkers will People will start dropping like flies and whispers will go around about how they said John had pneumonia but the press report will say passed away due to a sudden illness Most at risk Idiots who think that being a germaphobe will protect them but cant stop holding mass public rallies because their ego forces them to get constant adulation|1 This is what happens when youre ruled by Narcissistic Science skeptic president and co Its extremely sad and infuriating|0 The only thing moving these morons is watching Europe get hit Even with that example they cant wrap their heads around the necessary measures So Im taking the extreme measures myself as best I can And yes at that level these health experts are no more than accomplished politicians|1 Marijuana is an immunosuppressant Id avoid even the edible in my opinion|0 Ive accepted that most people have no clue whats going and they cant be bothered to find out How many times have you heard its just the flu Even if they have doubts its what they want to believe|0 If it was just the uneducated general public panicing then I would agree I was skeptical and critical of people on here at first too However Im changing my mind after several different governments are all forcing places to close You know the poo is hitting the fan when airlines are cancelling all flights and grounding their fleet At a considerable financial loss Over the weekend one airliner even turned around in mid air and returned to its departure This is not done lightly|0 Would you send this link to me please |1 I guess it depends on percent of population infected righteditedhad said infection rate accidentally|0 Who the fuck are they going to serve if theres nobody to fucking serve Scrooge Casper|0 Pay taxes|0 Your daughter has less of a chance getting sick now then if she had left a bit ago If you two are seriously terrified about this happening then you need to book the soonest Delta flight If the us was closing borders it wouldve been done by now Most people are going to try to get out ASAP Commercial airlines know citizens are still trying to come home As long as theres decent demandwhich is why you should book the earliest one asap as those will be most in demand they will run the flight|0 Oh well Im wondering how the stock markets will react to this lol|1 Trust whatever the experts say if they respond to this Just wanted to offer a thought sometimes eating something acidic fatty or sugary or just overeating before bed less than 3 hours or so can lead to overnight acid reflux One symptom of acid reflux is a dry cough or ghost cough It can also cause a postnasal drip which prolongs the cough and reflux Dont know if thats pertinent to you or not but there you go|1 That is a lie All my family are doctors in the public sector and this is not true What is true however is that this guy is a twat and will use any and all situations to advance his agenda Other than that the virus has had the same behavior here than in any other country and will probably be out in the wild in a few days|0 Hey stay positive Cant stress how important it could be overalli mean science has a lot to do with it but I do believe in a bit of actualization |1 HA|1 Yeah and Pence has a great track record of handling disease|1 I was intending to be more specific as to how it relates to COVID19 CCP has never acted in the interest of its own people but rather in the interest of itself While all governments do this to varying extent the CCP is blatant There is some reassurance knowing from the get go that the CCP is a corrupt government that not expected to act in good faith The WHO or even the CDC is a total other concern in this time of uncertainty where science is depending on government for valid data to create the science necessary to save lives|1 Was supposed to go to Home Goods with a friend today and I canceled it she was disappointed but Im sure she understood|1 Life is going to be different from now on Either in small ways or possibly in significant ways But if we work together and get creative we can build a better world for ourselves Im not opposed to collapse because its an opportunity to set things straight The unknown is whats scary We are all accustomed to living a certain way But humans are resilient we will learn to adapt to and accept what comes next|1 So Im certainly no infectious disease MD but Im relatively confident you dont need every single human to get it for it to pass Consider the measles The R0 a measure of infectivitytransmission how many people a single case is likely to infect can be substantially higher than coronavirus A commonly cited R0 range for measles is 1218 in the developed modern west often MUCH higher in less developed areas Ive read sarscov2 has an R0 around 225 How does measles not spread like wildfire given the huge R0 difference Has a ton to do with heard immunity If enough people in a community have immunity either via immunization or sensitization previously had the virus its very hard for community spread to take off Finally to the point once you get a good amount of immunity in the community so long as the virus doesnt mutate rapidly local outbreaks will become much less likely and severe If we can get to that sort of point the rest can rely on herd immunity without ever contracting the virusdisease This is how we protect eg the very young and immunocompromised from many serious infectious diseases They are not immunedo not have the immune system to resist the infection but they are able to live in the community by depending on everyone else to take good public health measures get vaccines wash hands stay home when sick etc Looking at you antivaxxers lol|1 If everyone just practiced basic hand hygiene coughed into their elbows or inner clothes and didnt touch everything and everyone all the time this would probably be a containable issue And we probably wouldnt have so much flu or common cold during peak seasons either Lot of selfish assholes in the worldAlso if we wore masks and kept our distance from others when sick I knowgasp|0 So far but he doesnt want to say much on WeChat because of snoops he used to work for China Mobile he knows how much they snoop|0 Ok take care |1 Not by the colloquial definition of things arent shitty here|1 bruh there are like 50 presidents tho|1 Cant get sick again for that strainUnfortunately like the flu viruses have a tendency to mutate very quickly and its quite likely that future versions would infect immune peopleThis is the secondary issue if this becomes a seasonal thing with yearly outbursts then its going to be insane|1 Many research labs and biotech companies look into repurposing antiviral drugs effective for treating other infectious diseases In January a company in China set out to test two HIV protease inhibitorshttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41587020000031 ritonavir and ASC09 in clinical trials to treat COVID19 While it is tempting to speculate that there is also research done with the more commonly used tripledrug HIV cocktail there were no reliable sources to be found|1 People are really missing this aspect of the current situation Going to be a tough summer to say the least|0 Yesterday I saw 4 packs of TP for 70 on Amazon wipes on ebay for 100 etc Price gouging is still everywhere All one has to do is Google TP hand sanitizer or Lysol wipes and youll see ridiculous prices Im not sure how to report on AmazonEdit I tried to report some TP on ebay just now but cant seem to find anything related to pricegouging in their list of reasons|1 Cut the conspiracy shit You are helping no one|0 Occupancy rates throw a spanner in this though If hospital is already 95 occupied welp fuck|0 I wonder if this is the beginning of the great restaurant chain wars The one where Taco Bell is our only choice in the future Be well|1 Ehhh Im pretty sure we have the most ICU beds per capita in the world|1 Yes my husband and friends think I am paranoid maybe but well informed nonetheless|1 I find its usually those who are ill educated and ill informed that resort to name calling rather than having an argument themselves|0 It sounds so official when Pence says their tracking it Like hes got his top men on it Nah not really|1 Qingdao 62 Expat 41 cases in a city of about 10 million Two cases in my city district No restrictions on travel or the community Signs were posted on apartment buildings including mine about no delivery drivers and no guests for the time being but you can still get a taxi if you need to get around Subway still runs but is very delayed and many bus routes were cancelled The remaining ones are very delayed Disinfectant is also being sprayed around communities and streets cleaned Temperature checks at all markets and public transport with the exception of convenience stores All stores except food related and health related stores are closed School is delayed until at least the 17th but it may be longer until the beginning of March|0 We know about those things that happened in the past and we know that they might happen againWe just dont give a fuck cuz we have no control over that shitWe here for a good time not a long time|1 Agreed its until April end as of now may be pushed and its only payment deferral plans It is however better than having to pay up front if you cant and hopefully the plans allow enough time for you to get back on your feetfind a job if you lose the current onePlease do plan accordingly and definitely contact them before assuming anything|1 I live in NYC and I dont trust it for a second My sisters teacher came back from a CLASS TRIP TO ITALY about 2 weeks ago She got very sick immediately upon return They said she tested negative but I dont know if she got tested at all They didnt even want to admit that she was sick at first so I think its just to save faceOur babysitters son came back from a trip to London Paris Barcelona also about 2 weeks ago He works for NYPD They paid him for 2 weeks and told him to self quarantine I am dead sure this guy did not stay home during this time because his outlook on this was its not a big dealSubways are still crowded as hell and people going out to restaurants and bars as this thing is spreadingMy point is people are fucking stupid|0 It will be interesting to see how other countries react to Britain stepping out of line like this This is going to destroy the narrative|1 Not just OSU at this point too I know Ohio University University of Cincinnati Akron Miami Kent state have all shut down in Ohio alone on top of other universities outside of Ohio|0 Prairie Dogs in the western great plains areas are carriers|1 They can be afraid and try things all they want somethings just are going to last|1 For a year or two now Ive been saying China posed an existential threat to western civilisation and lots of people just looked at me like I was some kind of weirdo Now theyre finally starting to listen|0 Its not affecting pregnant women more severely than the general population Wuhan report of147 pregnant women only 1 critical AKA 1|0 Interesting do you have more information on the methodology available How are you converting the trend to a R0|1 How are people supposed to get the financial relief available for people that are virus positive if they cant be tested Edit fixed|1 Wow what the heck have the Chinese brought upon the world Its going to be interesting how this plays out It could be the new plague or a footnote in history of people freaking out over a really bad flu|0 There is no average person|0 It would be wise to have somewhere to quarantine them all on return they have already demonstrated they lack the ability to make self disciplined safe decisions on their own|1 Commerce is part of health if an economy collapses so does the health of the population|0 Im quite fortunate to have an array of different suppliers around the world on hand in my line of work our costing will increase slightly but its better than getting no supplier at all|1 They cant legally ask for a doctors note if its governments advice No way would that fly|0 Italy suspended billing we will have to do the same If we dont we should march with our gas masks on oh wait thats why they dont want us to buy masks|0 yeah I know people that commute that evryday|1 Nobody at my workplace is taking this seriously my family doesnt care etc this country is fucked if we dont change things now|0 Take care|1 yes but if it takes 10 days for symptoms to get bad enough that medical attention is needed most of them may be walking carriers now that havent gone critical yet|0 Nothing goes better with carbs than a light inoffensive Mexican style beer|0 Im heading there next month on the 11th for a 5 day stay hope it stays open lol|1 Shame on it|0 Yep a whole 3 paragraphs of not excusing|1 28 negative pressure rooms and they are already half full of COVID19 patients The rooms arent even the limiting factor You have to wait for someone to finish using a CAPR before you can get one to take care of a patient On the plus side drive through testing just started so that opens up space|0 Hey look at my local TV news in Brazil Coronavirus is slowing down another on a magazine Do we really need to worry about coronavirus|0 Not just the elderly The South is screwed|0 yes|1 sure see my answer to other commenter|1 My daughter had the swine flu a month ago|0 Because these people have never been to a Costco before and they see something like that not knowing thats how Costco always is on the weekends|1 This is good advice but its nearly impossible to follow Masks gloves hand sanitizer alcohol and disinfecting supplies have all been sold out in the stores around here for weeks They fly off the shelves as soon as theyre restocked I was able to stock up on some soap and thats literally it Its scary especially because I work in healthcare so I have no choice but to leave the house|0 The fatter the ass the more well care|1 Oh yeah you are right let me update the score board Shitty Selfish People 0 vs Coronavirus 1|0 Yes thats technically impossible but we go from 10m to 40m in 6 days with the current doubling|1 Sadly I cant exams are going on|0 Watching how people have acted through the COVID19 crisis makes me less convinced well be able to tackle climate change People cant be inconvenienced slightly to avoid the relatively high risk of either themselves or their loved ones dying theres no way theyre going to inconvenience themselves over their grandkids or some poor people in another country Kind of depressing to watch|0 1000 infected not great not terrible Sir weve only done 2000 tests Cough|0 Look at the numbers coming out of Italy No way was anyone from China telling the truth if Wuhan was the epicenter of all this prior to any previous knowledge and still manage to have low numbers and now recovering while everyone else is greatly affected by this virus Look at the people in China dropping like flies to their death as one of many examples Like CCP how many lies have you told today|0 most of those are travelrelated btw but Broward is very worrying atm|0 Everyone should get this vaccine except the Trump administrationThe american people should get it but Donald and his friends should never get it|1 Have you ever even for a second thought about what you are writing when you spam here Screw you|0 Guys I know I may sound stupid but is it really that scary I do think about the virus but not to the point when I cant eat or sleep from the stress its causingOut of all cases that had an outcome 93 of them were cured and 7 died And most of those people who died were either very old or weak So many doctors working on curing peoplePlease correct me if Im wrong I dont want to trust media much I think they are making all of us panic more that we should There are no cases in my country but I think we will be affected by it soon because many countries around us have the virus|0 I want this as a bumper sticker|1 finally some good news amidst all the chaos|0 I think weve been ranked at like 36 for a while nowEdit We just say were the best|1 How could they advise people to not leave the house without advising them to stock up on food They mentioned having 2 weeks of food basic supplies and essential medications how is that unreasonable Im curious to know what triggers logistical support from FEMA and what thats supposed to look like but certainly would not count on that in lieu of basic personal preparedness|1 WHAT 9000 THERES NO WAY THAT COULD BE RIGHT|0 Ah yes foreigners will understand that post now|1 Am I a joke to you C Virus|1 Ah Thank youWhat I read on the CDC site just said respiratory symptoms without specifying Of course after starting to feel a tiny bit better for a day or two my lungs are starting to hurt my cough is coming back Very frustrating because I dont know if I am still contagious and also because I really need to go to the store just get out of the house|0 So what are they supposed to do with the homeless Conservatives get pissy about public assistance and the homeless have no home in which to quarantine Hence the homeless label|0 Yeah I quickly learned that Facebook is not my people anymore So much denial|1 Its shit sometimes Please ensure you acknowledge this and tell her you know it hurts Many people think we are exaggerating When we are actually playing it down to be able to live in the society with chronic pain No one likes people who suffer Its uncomfortable People are avoiding uncomfortable|0 Will it stop it no but a travel ban can limit and bring the serious nature of this issue into the spotlight Because if the situation is not serious enough why would there be travel bans|0 I admittedly worry about my grandparents as well This is not the end of the world however it is still catastrophic|0 Orange man is bad regardless|0 The problem with the just stay home theory is that people can already be infectious before they have any obvious symptoms and in some cases may never develop symptomsThey wont stay home because as far as they can see they arent ill and unless you are doing contact tracing you wont be able to find themThe approaches that appear successful so far combine testing contact tracing and more testing of the contacts because that allows you to get infected people into some form of isolation which could be at home as rapidly as possibleThe biggest problem with contact tracing is that it works best when there are only a small number of infections and we may have already passed that point in the US|1 The goal is to prevent overburdening the health care system by a rapid expansion in cases as occurred in Italy They can probably go back in a few weeks well while the health system ramps up capacity|1 How much food do you think is enough Should it be tins pasta etc or frozen I havent got a clueThe food in my house right now could easily last two weeks I have an American fridge freezer and its stocked right up but what should I buy for the long haul|1 There is no scientific evidence that reading manga can help keep you safe from coronavirus s|1 Ohio cant but the federal government can They could literally say we will make you whole and pay employees to stay home It might take 1 trillion but theyve already printed that via the Fed anywya|0 Wont someone please think of Kanye|0 Critical care not out of reach for everybody in China that is wildly overgeneralizing the current state of healthcare there We in the west have much better healthcare but its not to the point where critical care is unavailable in China|1 Just stop going for now many schools will likely close before long anyway and by the time they make that decision it will be too late|0 Labrador Diagnostics LLC is what you find if you dig a few articles deep and sounds like theyre a patent lawsuit troll Theyre also owned by SoftBankAlso it sounds like they have another lawsuit in the works over some covid19 diagnostics|1 I dont know where this timeline came from but the stories I heard were about people dying with pneumonia back in November Their relative said that the authorities were eager to burn their bodies immediately Officially everything was fine but they already believe that the local authorities knew more than they were saying|1 So what do you think I have no medical training so maybe I am asking trivial questions but why are the people with high bp more at risk And how does it work By people with high bp at risk do they mean patients that had a history of high bp or patients with high bp at this moment covid19 positive|0 You forgot to setup specific secured facilities where you can round up all the infected and dispose of them with nobody seeing Fly in some incinerators to those facilities so you wont need mass graves or coroner transport vehicles|1 Should be the norm anyways We waste too much money having rallies and candidates flying everywhere Give every candidate a million dollars for whatever then the rest is online streaming interviews debates and their website We need to get money out of politics|0 Thank you I have the pleasure to work with some of the very best prehospital care practitioners in a field I love Well we weathered SARS H1N1 Swine flu bird flu MERS and Ebola and now COVID19 They really need to do a study and look at the antibodies paramedic carry around|1 Yeah luckily my work we can avoid close contact and Ill be only seeing my hubby otherwise Rather safe then sorry|1 Yup The longer it takes the better itll be This posthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgi2pievenifcovid19isunavoidabledelayingutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare illustrates it quite well|1 It seems that way yes there should have been more deaths outside of Wuhan and the Hubeiprovince by now especially if you consider the 5 million that left the city before the quarantine and already had the disease with them20 reported deaths including the man in the Philippines so far was reported yesterday and a lot of the first cases in Wuhan died within a week after being hospitalizedIts starting to feel a bit strange|0 Alternatively let the packages sit for 9 days in a garbage bag outsideThe laziest heist movie|0 I get it Its scary and you would be criticized if you do Im with you Its easy for all the rest to say that you have to be on the front lines You dontIf you want to quit do it for your own mental healthNot that you need any but I give you permission to do soGood luck colleague|1 My hope is the virus is evolving to thrive by not killing the host|1 There are almost a million hospital beds in the United States|1 It was on the feed yesterday I think Ill try to find it|0 This is BS I know because owning hand sanitizer isnt illegal so the attorney generals office wouldnt do shit You can have as much fucking hand sanitizer as you want |1 Lol dumbass|0 Several things 1 Other countries are better prepared thanks to being aware of the virus before the symptoms could get severe2 Better air quality China is infamous for having terrible air quality which could weeken the lungs of the people infected which puts them at higher risk of developing pneumonia3 More resources Its clear that the hospitals treating the virus in China are overfilled under stocked and staffed by overworked doctors and nurses|1 Right now I am only concerned with what our own Govt is doing or not doingKeep on seeing posts about China theyre lying theyre blaming the US the US blames China Honestly does it really matter right now|0 People dont stay in their home to avoid the cold Have you been to Seoul in the winter|0 Only if we bail out the ones who didnt have a reserve fund in times like this|1 I told one of my teammates to wfh a week agocoughing so much and acting like it wasnt contagious|1 Out of curiosity how many masks did you buy Im asking for a friend|1 WhatTheir government flew them home on a private flight to have a proper quarantine and healthcareLook up how poorly the quarantine was managed we should be pissed at the Japanese bureaucracy for putting unqualified people in charge of disastersBTW CDC is now strongly advising Americans reconsider any cruises in Asia advising further repatriation should not be expected|0 I saw an article pop up on my apple news feed discussing this It is a possibility being thrown around for sure|1 Wtf is with your y scale|0 Hey man Im experiencing the same problem as well The thing is you got to understand that the test kit is a limited resource so they cant really test everyone|0 I can imagine that if I was quarantined in my bedroom Id be smashing my head off the wall in frustration after about 2 days Especially if I was stuck in there with someone else and had no way to have a little time to myself|0 Again none of these articles explicitly state multiple organ failure He had very severe pneumonia and a high fever and was hooked up to an ECMO You are frightening people and making them think it could be due to cytokine storm which is just straight up not mentioned at all|0 Honestly I think the whole thing is a ruse so he and his family can sequester themselves without backlash Sophie has apparently tested positive but no word on Margaret Trudeau who was on the trip with her She also interacted with famous people like Idris Elba at WE day in the UKhttpswwwinstagramcomsophiegregoiretrudeauhlen|1 They ll have certainly earned it IdiotsTheir entitlement is astounding I really fucking wish they would build that stupid wall all the way around and maybe add a roof for good measure|1 Im starting to regret bar hopping in downtown Toronto yesterday|0 Thanks for the concernIm a millennial musician who grew up spending days locked away in my bedroom playing video games and guitar Ill be ok |1 I dunno at 3000 per test it seems like a money making schemeWho is manufacturing the tests and why does it need to be 3000|1 Thanks What adds more uncertainty is that hes supposed to be returning stateside in a couple months Honestly Im not even sure what people would be judging me over Still thanks again|1 The dude in the middle looks like he overdid the CBD|1 This is just wild People still think this is the flu too which is just crazy how stupid we are|0 She better not forget the Mothers Day card Good job mom|1 Imagine what its going to look like in a country that basically does nothing tests like 100 people a day and has a thoughts and prayers guy running the whole effort Oh and going to the ICU will bankrupt most people instantlyThankfully thats all just a nightmare scenario|1 No one thinks anything is wrong at all but Im sure its here|1 Good grief Ive only just realised that in the last hour alone I put my phone on top of the cat she licked it then I took it to the bathroom sat it on a desk at the pathology collection lab put it in my tote bag next to meat then sat a custard tart on top of itEither Im going to be the first to die or Ill be the only one left Hitchhikers Guide was right after all Cleaning your phone is good advice|0 I dont know why this false narrative is being pushed Children in Asia that were infected but recovered are still showing signs of permanent lung damage Its not without consequence|0 Fear denial normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance just a start And entitlement Im Merican and I fear greatly for my country When our extremely privileged entitled people become severely ill and cant get care because our inequitable inadequate healthcare system is overwhelmed how will these idiots behave Those videos from China of people spitting on fomitesIm afraid were going to see a lot more of that perhaps more extreme|0 I am the ass nowI didnt call anyone a moron Can you say the sameI am not the one who cant move on btw And no you do have something to do with what you said Why would you claim otherwiseAnd no its not informative to correct fantasy words|0 Bigots in safe spaces|1 To be fair they had considerably few tests and were trying to use them only in emergency situations Life or death This also likely accounts for why our death toll seems high This virus isnt a nothing burger by any account but the majority of people will get it and be okay They are allowing some spread The goal is control not containment|0 And you have people like the moron superintendent where my wife works He said because only 2 of the infected were under 18 their is nothing to worry about|0 They are but reddit in general will ignore anything if it kets them shit on Trumo for a second|0 Link dead|0 Its not even incompetence What you are seeing is state sponsored abdication of medical care and responsibilityThe more people would realize that many of the worlds governments really dont care about its population the further ahead we would be Any diseases that have a high degree of death for the WORKING population will be eradicatedtaken care of Your government doesnt care if old people die Period end of story They dont care if poor people die If they aint workin and aint spendin they aint important If they are supporting the industrial complex then they are higher on the list Its so simple Once you are drawing from the US treasury youdontmatter Everything else is smoke and mirrors|1 Though fatality rate numbers are still uncertain if its really 4 thats 10x deadlier than the flu The flu only kills so many people because its widespread If 2019nCoV became as widespread as the flu it would kill 10x as many peopleHere is a table on Twitter that compares 2019nCoV with various other viruses httpstwittercomVaccinologiststatus1220469109378502658httpstwittercomVaccinologiststatus1220469109378502658 Wikipedia has a table for historical flu pandemics httpsenwikipediaorgwiki2009flupandemicComparisonstootherpandemicsandepidemicshttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2009flupandemicComparisonstootherpandemicsandepidemics|0 They call for social distancing measures to be implemented which the gov will likely do this week and for the modelling data to be made public which the gov announced today they will also do Seems like the government are listening|1 prii will last forever they are good little car bois|1 They do behave differently the rate of growth is similar but who they infect on initial contact is different The first outbreak in America was an old folks home We got deaths right away if you looked at just that data HOLY SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING Its going to be different in each countries based on what groups it hits|0 Thank you|1 Right I cant believe how brainwashed most of my fellow Americans are Were not the Leaders of the Free World we arent America the Great and were not on top of much of anything unless its murdering innocents|0 Eh Im not defending what they are doing but lets all be honest here Every time these situations comes up its always the little guy being called out I mean every store in the world has been selling toilet paper they get for pennies for dollars for decades The mark up on this crap is incredible Even at the extreme low end of a 100 markup double what they paid they are making bank on this shit And no one complains Then little guy comes around during the pandemic and puts his 100 markup on it and everyone is all butthurt They dont care when its giant corporations buying cheap china goods and marking them up 1000 But heaven forbid little guy doing it|0 Trump has been convinced that the economy is his ticket to being reelected This presser hes having today at 630 with the person that spoke yesterdayI suspect a lot of back tracking today from yesterday I bet whoever speaks with him today is doing so under duress Anybody that speaks out and doesnt tow the trump linebased on his past behaviorwill be fired He wants to sugar coat it in hopes the market bounces back If the market crashes hes a goner Wooohoooo|0 Just checked out the tweeter account Pretty crazy I am following LaurieGarret She is a pulitzer winning journalist who reported on SARS and MERS She has not yielded to the mainstream media that say things are under control Her tweets have been fair|1 Damn it got that serious|0 THIS is exactly why we have taken our kids out of school and self quarantined as much as humanly possible already We are not waiting for someone to tell us because it will be too late We are doing this partly for us but also to protect the weaker of our population that need it My kids are most likely not going to end up in the hospital with this but that doesnt mean I should not change my life at all because my children and I will probably survive this We ALL have to make sacrifices for the good of others so that means taking drastic measures by ourselves|1 Thank you very much appreciate the article Good luck man|1 Thanks You write very well and appreciate your info Im from Singapore|1 Plenty of young easily led fascists too|1 This will not end well|0 Ill take 2 please|0 The best medical care in the world still is not magic If he were ever infected with COVID19 although he probably would survive push come to shove he would still have an uncomfortably high chance of dying|1 Okay I need to get off Reddit for a bit|1 Yes I remember that documentary about TGN1412 Harrowing but cant believe some of the basic commonsense mistakes they made like continuing to administer it even after some people had adverse effects not waiting much time between administrations etchttpswwwyoutubecomwatchva9sX93RHOk|0 I blame our gods damn governments These types of decisions are what we fund them fore typo|0 Well I had my first Corona patient yesterday And the government in the Netherlands doesnt do anything|1 Its been spreading for weeks everywhere people returned from overseas with the disease and went undetected Or disobeyed recommendations Anyone who passed algebra knows what R0 is and makes a reasonable assumption about when transmission started should easily be able to calculate a number of current USA infections that is at least 5 digits in length It takes only a couple of minutes to confirm this Anyone postulating the CDC did not know is full of shit This must be the plan|0 The president also said things were basically fine Its not unreasonable for people to look to their leaders for guidance in these times|1 This isnt information these are wild guesses Predicting a 1000pt drop in the stock market is not anywhere near the same as most of the other things on that list Not to mention one seemed imminent as it happened the next day vs all these others you are projecting over months and the whole year even Just so wacky|0 yeah I am normally the one who is telling everyone else in my life to stop worrying about stuff But in this situation I am way more worried than everyone else I know Hopefully Im misreading the situation but if 80 of the US population gets it and even if the mortality rate is only 5 instead of 35 thats still nearly 15 million people dying in the US|0 Hahaha I think Ill be just fine actually Youre hilarious though|1 price gouging in such situations is literally illegal|0 Third patient in France the 48 years old living in Bordeaux has fully recovered and has been discharged Doctors said they only treated him with fever medication didnt even need oxygenUse Carbon Monoxide to be sure|1 still better than testing their shit vaccines on helpless newborns and their deluded parents|0 The fuck its like 10kEdit basically 11k|0 If he felt having failed his people he would still be more useful to the society alive than dead|0 Can they also help foot medical funeral costs for the people they infect who get sick|0 In the case of the OP Im pretty sure it isEh fuck Faster quarantine yourself as opposed toEh fuck you go quarantine yourselfSo for example Eh fuck you better hurry up quarantine yourselfMeansEh fuck You better hurry up quarantine yourself As opposed toEh fuck you hurry up quarantine yourselfD|0 Fuck yeah look at me spreading the virus to this guy with an asthmatic four year old and an eighth year old mother Wow hahaha youre so cool|1 If US grandparents were more involved it wouldnt be an issue I grew up in a culture where grandparents took care of most of the child rearing outside of kindergartenschool so parents could work Found American grandparents to be pretty selfishsome just seeing their grandkids once or twice a year|1 None of this seems correct Certainly an N95 is more effective than a cotton mask Also EVERYONE doesnt need to comply with preventative measure for it to make a difference By that notion social distancing is useless because some people arent doing it|1 A respiratory virus yes|1 Of course coronavirus skips winter and pops up during spring so instead of cancelling all the awful family dinners and bullshit for Thanksgiving and Christmas we get to cancel the fun stuff like March Madness and college girls showing their boobs at the beach|0 Absolutely I hate that guy|0 I live in an Area in South Africa where our winter still sees days in the 30C plus range so a positive I guess|1 Youre fighting the toilet paper problem If everyone continues buying toilet paper at the normal rate it will probably be on shelves for months However it only takes a handful of people buying several cases to empty the store The fact that there is plenty in the warehouse and will be some on the shelves next week doesnt help if I run out and a handful of hoarders cleared the shelves So the most responsible thing for the individual to do would be to grab some extra But this would make the shelves empty faster and encourage more hoarding So the most responsible thing to do for the community is in direct opposition to what is best for the individual Same thing with the stock market I sold everything off in early February because I saw that very few governments were taking this seriously and figured we would have a correction or even a bear market I didnt think then that the market would go into free fall but its starting to look like it will The best thing to do for the good of the entire stock market is to leave everything where it is and if enough people do that it will work out ok for the individual If too many people panic youll see people selling out of the market for the same reason people are buying extra toilet paperBasically decide if you think enough people are going to panic to truly destroy the market|1 I joined a prepping page it helps me to prepare gives me a bit of focus The sites makes me a bit OCD but gave me Items that I never thought of|1 they still have better healthcare outcomes|1 Im an MD IRL Username is 9yrs old I know its bad And I know its going to get much worse Im in Sacramento its definitely spreading undetected Your comments are still way off base|0 The stock market rebounds Old sick people who die do not come back to life when this is over How do people not understand this|0 The problem with the WHO is their political affiliations Their primary goal is not to save lives but keep the economy going and that is what gets people mad Its especially apparent with the current crisis|0 No Clinical case fatality rate is 14 2 is the old and outdated figured of WHO guessing the death rate because not everyone was being confirmed|0 The answer wasnt no are you stupid or just a lemming|0 I wonder if the Trump supporters who understand the reality and severity of this virus are suddenly wondering what other factbased situations have been dismissed as a democrat hoax by TrumpOne of his supporters is up here in the comments blaming obama era diversityappointees trying to ideologically outflank the virusSo no theyre not wondering if Trump has lied to them|0 Its because westerners think they are superior to Asians perhaps They keep badmouthing the use of masks no matter how much evidence is thrown their wayThey refuse to wear masks because they arent 100 effective nothing is so what deep clean public transport and other public areas close playgrounds close schools heavily pressure employers to allow remote working quarantine people in actual quarantine centers or ankle tag them from infected countries all building cleaners to daily clean handles elevator buttons etcThey flat out refuse to do all these things I dont know why They think its just another fluAt the moment I can see an Italy style situation across the whole of Europe and the US and I dont know why these governments are walking straight into the fire willingly|0 He must be very ill to be saying sensible things like that|0 Nowhere Ive ever worked would CT a pneumonia case before doing an xray And if you see pneumonia on xray theres no point in getting a CT scan Cost may not be that high although its an order of magnitude more than an xray would be but availability isnt that great either CT scanners are very busy with other cases theyre not going to try and slot in taking an ED patient to get one when they can do the xray in the roomTheres also a big push in many places to not CT unless its necessary to make the dx CT scans give massive doses of radiation that has gone unappreciated in the past You get maybe 3 CTs in your life before theres a measurable increase in your risk of cancer although IIRC there is no threshold so any CT is bad|0 Well if Greenland got infected Madagascar is usually tha last one standing|0 A friend of mine bought 4500 masks for half a dollar and sells them for a dollar Some people even try to export them to Germany and the word on the street is that you can sell them there for up to 10 Euro So it goes|1 nope lmao This really happened Unless you appealed and got approved to stay for a extended amount of time Everyone was told at 10pm to get out by Sunday at 12pm|0 Well probably never know the extent of that influence especially as theyre consistently refusing to publish any of the data thats driving their decision making despite daily calls from the scientific community and from the opposition partiesHonestly I hope youre right and the science takes front seat for a while But peer review would be ideal presuming were not trustworthy enough to see the predicted death rates without panicking|1 Planes actually have pretty terrific air circulation and filtration systems|1 Well if youre desperate enough|0 Wow If only wed known thats all it takes to get water for people in Detroit|1 When I was told that tale as a young lad my first question wasWhy was the boy alone with the sheep when they know there are wolves in the areaMy second wasShouldnt the boy have had a dog or two as wellWhich led me to think the same way as you do about this morality tale Also it is clearly the message that our political class learned blame the poor weak and helpless and do it in a fashion that makes all the other poor suckers feel they are powerful|0 Nice but Im pretty sure big box stores arnt Home Depots and Lowes they are totally out with no restricted buying|1 Party members get to vote for their own benefit |1 Gamestop is awful in this crisis GameStop are also breaking ordinances of towns saying all nonessentials stores should be closed They have told all store managers that if police or town officials tell them to close to refer them to legal which has a blanket lawsuit for any municipality that tries to close them On top of that most stores are afraid to take trades thinking they might be contaminated with the virus GameStop said trades will NOT be suspended during this timeEdit for typo|0 The message to take away is that just like the lottery your total is going to be a lot lower if you dont take the lump sumhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh06s2whatflatteningthecurveactuallylookslikefk7xjqd|1 Hey he just infected Fox News staff I see this as a win|1 Agreed Back on Feb 21st I went to the doctor thinking I had pneumonia or bronchitis and told them I couldnt breathe Explained it was painful to breathe To the point where I couldnt even brush my teeth I have never been so fatigued in my life They told me I had neither and looked me in the eye and said we dont know whats causing your shortness of breath and gave me an inhaler I went home and self medicated It lasted 1012 daysLooking back just thinking of the timeline of how I felt and listening to other peoples stories I really cant help but think that might have been what I had|0 we got it back in January and now were immune to it thats why we dont got no casesThere is a good possibility thats actually the case Well never know because health authorities wont test you except in very certain circumstances If we tested peoples IgG antibodies that had the flu a few months ago I wouldnt be surprised if many positives came back|1 Because they dont have unmitigated greed influencing every single decision when it comes to their healthcare systemYou say that but what evidence do you have that makes you think greed is what is holding the CDC back Im curious myself because I dont know why the CDC is holding back|1 Im planning on getting prison jacked|0 They want it to be as long as possible|1 Fuck facebook They have blood on their hands|0 Test my ass|0 Thats some Cobra Commander type of shit lol|0 If its anything like the rest of the shows it wont be cancelled but postponed So in theory youll still have a stand but at a later date I work for an exhibition company and weve lost 14 shows in the last 3 days|0 Its definitely more serious than common cold but is it really worse than the flu I feel like people might be exaggerating this|0 This is great news hopefully these printed valves hold up|1 I cancelled an appointment on Wednesday that my daughter had for this weekend My state had 6 cases then and now were at 18 I just didnt think it was a good idea exposing her to everyone at the spa that day along with everyone days prior etc Im operating with needs over wants right now A manicure can wait right now Im sorry your business isnt taking more measures I would think clients would start cancelling but I guess you just cant predict everyones behavior yet Its the sensible thing to do but I know that then hurts the employees as well I hope all figure a way out of this mess together|0 China failed the entire world|0 I guess this is what happens after the absence of any substantial crisis for over 70 years in Europe Nobody takes anything serious and politicians are completely incompetent This is gonna be a harsh wakeup|0 Mayor Lightfoot it has thought Testing all the wealthy first then next classes before it gets to you andor myself unless you make a min 50 million a yr|1 Lets be honest The lack of widespread testing has a far bigger impact on reporting accurate numbers than taking weekends off|1 MefloquineLariam is known for psychological issues but Malarone is known more for stomach problems|0 I completely agree and have told them that theyre being completely obtuse|1 Everything about this just gets worse and worse|0 Public organizations have started working as if there is no president as he is delusional about the problem It has been confirmed that as soon as the dust settles he is going to face impeachment trials it was announced a couple of hours ago|0 Please someone tell me why we cant test more people Do we need machines chemicals or both And why cant we buy themZuckerberg just announced he buying two of the diagnostic machines through his foundation doubling the testing capability in the Bay Area So what is the problem with the US|0 I would be fucking stupid to fast track something that will essentially be pushed to 95 of the world No thanks fuck you This isnt a vaccine in the way we say vaccines but more of like a very specific boost to immunities related to the virus Say we have a illness that is related to the fact that we make 0 Vitamin X in our body We then create Vitamin X that you can take to boost up your bodies Vitamin X levels Ifwhen you get a virus that requires a healthy immune system with Vitamin X to fight off you will now have the Vitamin X ready to try to fight it off better This is a easy way of understanding this Picture Without vitamin X your immune system being VERY STRONG can keep you from getting very sick from the illness young people but a weaker or broken system Old peopleprior conditions cant fight as well alone Vitamin X would make the fight more likely to win|1 Yes we can Also cruise ships large gatherings and schools|1 Makes me want to boot up Tokyo Jungle|1 Meanwhile WHO said they have full confidence towards Chinas capability to contain itIm pretty concerned|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 They allowed travel from China Iran and their testing is just as bad as the US|0 More than 3000 died in the US 10 years ago amid h1n1 Officially Estimates put the death toll at 200000 There wasnt a massive drop in stocks back then I mean there was 1 to 2 years before that but it did not hamper the recovery much|0 Delaware here New Castle County Cant find any hand sanitizer in the stores but I was able to get some alcohol and glycerin to make some No cases in Delaware yet last I checked but people have been getting tested at the university of Delaware My company sent around an email today just detailing basic precautions for protecting against the spread of the coronavirus Went to the store today and stocked up on some non perishables juuuust in case|0 No racism here They were all Chinese|0 How many times has it been the beginning of tje end of the CCP thoughLike I want it to be true because the stranglehold they have over the Chinese people is disgusting but when has it ever worked Theyve gotten away with so much shit that the only way it seems plausible is if Winnie the Flu is replaced probably forcibly by someone who genuinely cares about the people beneath him And even then theres the rest of the government who are varying levels of shifty|0 I was supposed to go on a job interview to Hawaii last week They postponed it because they were scared of the virus getting on the island I was told it would be catastrophic if it did and there isnt enough resources to help people Is there any truth to that|0 My husband shakes peoples hands at his job I told him to stop|0 Have you tried edibles or a vape Dynavap M vape is fairly cheap and incredibly good I hope you find some relief from the painIf you are trying edibles for the first time be careful too much is a proper mind fuck and will not make you feel good|1 The only way the US is has a fighting chance is if it declares martial law or quarantine in place this week|0 Yeah I dont think theres anything communist about China the country with more billionaires Its basically state capitalism a dictatorship|1 Did you try going to the ERGlad youre doing better|1 What sort of racist remarks are you expecting|0 Yeah|1 Yea its pretty fucked up Lets all just pray for the people in China right now and hope to god that we get through this|1 I have a stockpile of lavender patchouliThat sounds lovely And its soap It will work|1 If you did that people would quickly point out how its fake because plenty of people here speak Chinese|0 Source for Thailand stopping reporting please|1 Both can be used to help breathing often in conjunction Septo is strictly internal though I just had my rhinoseptoplasty ppd for who knows how long Im not terribly enthused at the prospect of my sleep continuing to be shit but obviously I get it|1 Are you guys cleaning your own rooms Do they bring you fresh linens every once in a while|1 Well they see the numbers and think its not that bad Oh its only 2 peopleWe hit 1000 infections yesterday Those are the worst infections There are probably another 10 times that amount that have it and arent being tested We are so screwed We just need to slow down the rate of infection To stretch out the how long it takes to infect the population That way hospitals dont become over welmed|0 It is clear that the United States will take the biggest hit from COVID19 in the west and that is because of the economic and healthcare system I hope this is the eye opener we need to see how socialism isnt actually bad Not communism socialism If we had that right now we would be much better off The Cold War and the golden opportunities in the 171800 are over|1 Landlords arent all financial moguls with loads of money Plenty of them own an extra house they inherited that barely pays for itself or rent out parts of their own house to offset cost of living there You cant just steal peoples income for no reason There are better solutions than shifting the financial burden on someone else|1 just the flu|0 No not by any means Italy tops South Korea both in terms of overall GDP 1988636 trillion dollars vs 1629532 trillion dollars and per capita GDP 32926 dollars vs 31430 dollars|1 Hard agree|1 My work sent out a brief notification In it they told sick employees to wait 24 hours before returning to work No talks of potential store closures in impacted areas my area is not one of them thank God no talks of giving us gloves nothing Theyve sent little 16 oz bottles of hand sanitizer and called it a day|1 We are also just nervous to try and you understand English anyway too dont try to speak Swedish behind our backs just in case |0 Went to local walmart last night here in south eastern Wisconsin No toilet paper Food options were pretty limited and what the store had was a few bags of this and that Almost all noodles off the shelves soup and other canned items gone as well Sucks because Im just out of toilet paper and almost out of food Ended up buying a few boxes of Kleenex and a lot of ramen because thats all that was left really|0 The counter example is the UK which will be proper fucked sometime this week|0 No doubt But this is an entirely different element I have the gift of information I am not unaware|0 Yeah Im not a fan of Albertas politics but theyve really stepped up with COVID 10002000 tests per day is insane Quebec has 15x the population and only broke 1k total tests a few days ago|0 Lets say their hail Mary strategy is to just let it play out and expect a drug that reduces the risk to show up and proven effective in 1 month OK now you need chemists to scale up production of it 1 month and you need a billion syringes 1 more month Then get it out to all the affected people in two weeks Pretty fast at only 14 weeks Of course it will be far too late|1 I cant say with certainty but I absolutely believe they are purposely taking this approach for that very reason Unfortunately some humans suck and will either take advantage of the system or freak out and start a mass panic|0 I will be messaging you in 5 months on 20200718 235615 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202007182023561520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf5ym265thdaywithotnicotinecoronavirusfearthebestfi22t8jcontext35 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ff5ym262F5thdaywithotnicotinecoronavirusfearthebest2Ffi22t8j2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020071820233A563A1520UTC to 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you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 No they are just bad at their jobI worked in a myriad of jobs in the hospital one of them being a housekeeper I read labels because I actually want things to be clean I had to eventually quit my job because simple tasks like cleaning off gurneys and beds were taking too long We were trained to get rooms done as fast as possible mostly due to turnaround they needed rooms to be filled again It makes sense but you should never rush disinfection I had to eventually quit work at the hospital altogether because it was taking me too long to clean hospital equipment beds stretchers chairs etcThis is the environment youre stepping into when you stay at a hospital in the United States Its especially shitty to be a patient in a clean room that formerly housed a patient with CDiff MRSA etc|1 Yeah but who cares Tom Hanks is a goddamned national hero He was in Vietnam he received a medal from the fuckin President he delivers gifts to kids on Christmas exposed the Vaticans illegal activities And hes a genuinely nice guy|1 Yeah I thought that most of the asymptomatic cases in China were really presymptomatic|1 Im pretty sure almost all of these borrow idle GPU clock cycles|1 Heading in the direction of Italy ffs|0 The numbers we have now are at that capacity Im talking true infected not confirmed Its at least a 2 week lag time at exponential growth to the actual cases that need ventilation|0 Is this not just a fence and some cement barriers that could be removed in less than 20 mins with the right equipment Looks pretty temporary yet effective|1 Dont take our word for it The CDC said today its a matter of when not ifWhy you believe it cant happen here is beyond me It can spread for 14 days without symptoms we cant track everyone 20 of cases are severe its extremely contagious and we havent shut down our borders You tell me how that translates to meh No problem|0 She was literally told there are no tests for this and that the whole test scenario is a lie Frightening and I know my sister has a good relationship with her doctor and trusts what she says and that doesnt mean the doctor is correct but this is what my sister was told|1 Its bizarre that he wasnt at least given a mask gloves and safety goggles|1 Nah this is a feelgood rumor truth Only doomer articles fake news gets censored or treated as rumor|0 Maybe worried family members are searching for info Perhaps|0 The president said theyre going to be offering low interest loans for small business owners Maybe thats something you could look into|1 iv The individual is engaged in caregiving because of the COVID19related closing of a school or other care facility or care program Well this is probably half of America|1 And the victims of misogyny and vitriol once they no longer look attractive enough|0 Everyone around Trump keeps getting COVID19 Im surprised he hasnt gone into quarantine with limited human contact yet I guess he isnt that smart|0 Yeah this is the big part All of us that smelled this and got shamed are looking for a vindicationBring on the annoyingly hidden news |0 The government over here Ireland is looking at buildings that can be converted into quarantine areas and modified to hold non ICU affected patients atm and weve just hit over 100 confirmed cases of Covid19 We cant do a fraction of what was done in Wuhan certainly not build any hospitals but I think countries are being more proactive about this now with regards to looking into where excess patients can be cared for in an appropriate manner before the worst hits them Or I hope they are|1 This virtuous person will be untouched by the virus Karma rocks|1 In Cleveland theyve proposed idk if its passed yet that all financial related evictions should be halted until the situation is resolved|1 Seriously The last time I had some intestinal distress I used baby wipes instead of toilet paper didnt flush them It was so much more pleasant|0 I believe in a matter of time they wont be laughing anymore|0 Thank you for taking the time to combine all this info together Appreciate the links you added in comments as well as how you dated the data Would it be possible for you to add the most updated data where possible Ive been looking for something like this to share with friends and family who are unaware of the seriousness of Covid19 Ive tried writing it out myself but its not my forte Ive followed this virus since mid Jan and like you realize how serious Covid19 is and how this Pandemic is going to affect the world in many ways The American public is just now starting to hear about this and most assume its the media trying to hype things up and sensationalize it for ratings The reality will start to sink in over the next week or 2 when thousands of Americans test positive assuming theres actually test run Your post is comprehensive and based on logic which is a good starting point Its the perfect thing to share in the days to come so that they can prepare before shit hits the fan|1 Everyone except China had a head start and knew PPE ventilators etc was the thing they neededAlso you dont run out of xray machines in the same way as they are not consumables as PPE and are not blocked by the patient as ventilatorsIs there any reusable PPE available Using consumables seems short term only|1 What did the military do to make it such a special experiance|1 Couldnt this number be high because they are really only testing severe cases|0 On 3 in the US HIPAA and some state privacy laws have pretty substantial penalties making local officials very cautious about disclosing any information|1 On the ventilators This is not likely to be true of the HK princess Margaret hospital It is a very well funded institution so unlikely they have low grade equipment|1 It can be done and in many cases should be done We can use gyms hotels dorm rooms etc In some cases its fine to self isolate at home in others its not We should at least be giving people the choice What if you life with several high risk elderly or immunocompromised family members In my situation I couldnt self isolate unless my roommates were also forced to self isolate which they wouldnt do unless forced under lock and key The majority of the student population isnt worried at all and I wouldnt want a student self isolating in a student dorm like I would be forced to do since the rest of the people in the residence would be going out to large social events and most likely wouldnt be sanitizing their homes well enough to stop the spread|0 Mormons are big on collective security and the greater good The beehive is considered a symbol of the religion It is easier for a Mormon to break toward social protection than it is for most Protestants|1 Did you hear some Chinese guy was murdered in Russia|0 Unfortunately theyre only listening to the World Health Organization|0 Just like taxes|1 Is there anything you can do at home for maintaining oxygen Obviously go to the hospital if its really bad but if you know you just need to ride it out is there anything that can be done now to potentially help yourself later|1 My thoughts exactly people have been lazy for too long this will defo be a wake up call|0 Given how easily this virus spreads I think it would be extremely difficult to stop yourself from getting infected if youre sharing a house with an infected person I think the best option is to be separated for the next 2 weeks and then reunite after they show no symptoms for 2 weeks You could stay in a hotel or back in your apartment If you insist on staying in the same place this is what I would do but it may not even be enough Shut down your home ventilation system Use space heaters instead of your central heating system Seal all vents with duct tape Put your parents in a room with a bathroom They walk in go straight to that room and close the door Have duct tape in their room and instruct them to seal the door when they get in Have a 14 day food supply in there with them maybe with a mini fridge portable induction cooktop or microwave or something I mean if youre thinking that youll be able to bring them food or do their laundry and taking their trash out and not get infected if they are no way in hell This thing spread way too easily|0 you say that as if this administration doesnt lie and contradict itself everyday|1 Luke 1315 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrificesAnd Jesus answering said unto them Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans because they suffered such things I tell you Nay but except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish Or those eighteen upon whom the tower in Siloam fell and slew them think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem I tell you Nay but except ye repent ye shall all likewise perishGod is not cruel he is just The socalled problem of evil Why would a loving God allow bad things to happen to good people is based on a false premise it wrongly supposes that humanity is good innocent and undeserving of sufferingThe Bible emphatically and consistently proclaims the wickedness of humanity throughout both the Old and New Testaments The Apostle Paul summarized Gods judgment of human nature in Romans 31120 which saysWhat then Do we excel No in no way for we have before charged both Jews and Greeks all with being under sin as it is writtenThere is none righteous no not one there is none that understands there is none that seeks after God They are all gone out of the way they have together become unprofitable there is none that does good no not one Their throat is an open grave with their tongues they have used deceit the poison of asps is under their lips whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness their feet are swift to shed blood destruction and misery are in their way and the way of peace they did not know There is no fear of God before their eyesBut we know that whatever things the Law says it says to those who are under the Law so that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may be under judgment before God because by the works of the Law none of all flesh will be justified in His sight for through the Law is the knowledge of sinHumanity is in constant and total rebellion against Him this is obvious to anyone who is willing to take an honest look at themselves in the mirror of Gods lawGod created us sustains us commands us to love Him first and fully and to love our neighbors as ourselves Matthew 223640 He forbids the worship of other gods and requires that we allow Him to define morality Proverbs 357 rather than making up our ownBut humanity has turned away from him toward a myriad of false religions including that of many of Americas insincere Christians who take offense at the words of Christ himself concerning these things preferring to view God the Father as only a lenient Santa Clause figure and Jesus as a lawless hippie 2nd Timothy 317 forewarned against these peopleKnow this also that in the last days grievous times will be on us For men will be selflovers moneylovers boasters proud blasphemers disobedient to parents unthankful unholy without natural affection unyielding false accusers without selfcontrol savage despisers of good traitors reckless puffed up lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God having a form of godliness but denying the power of it even turn away from theseFor of these are those who creep into houses and lead captive silly women loaded with sins led away with different kinds of lusts ever learning and never able to come to the full knowledge of the truthGod forbids fornication sleeping around 1st Thessalonians 435 adultery 2nd Peter 21214 homosexuality and gender confusion Romans 12627 and he hates divorce Matthew 199 He demands that we be honest and sincere in both letter and spirit John 42324 Colossians 39 Ephesians 658 He forbids theft Ephesians 428 and oppression James 516 He forbids murder including of unborn babies Exodus 212225 who are people too Luke 144 Psalm 22910 1391316Moreover God demands purity of heart not just outward obedience he condemns pride James 46 hatred 1st John 31416 greed Colossians 35 and perverse lust Matthew 52730God did not create us this way we have chosen it for ourselves since the day that the first man and woman rejected Gods moral authority in favor of tasting evil for themselves Genesis 13 Since that day we are estranged from God who is the fountain of life and so death rules the Earth Romans 5621But God offers us hope through his only begotten Son Jesus Christ If we seek to proudly sit in judgment over God we will be condemned to eternal torment in Hell because He is stronger than us But if we will humble ourselves acknowledge our rebellion and submit to Jesus Gods chosen Sacrifice Isaiah 53 Priest Hebrews 41216 101014 and King Revelation 191121 then we will find mercy reconciliation and eternal lifeJohn 31621 For God so loved the world that He gave His onlybegotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but so that the world might be saved through HimHe who believes on Him is not condemned but he who does not believe is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the onlybegotten Son of God And this is the condemnation that the Light has come into the world and men loved darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil For everyone who does evil hates the Light and does not come to the Light lest his deeds should be exposed But he who practices truth comes to the Light so that his deeds may be made known that they have been worked in GodThere is a cost to following Jesus Christ in this life as He himself warned us in Luke 142633 and Matthew 5312 If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters yea and his own life also he cannot be my disciple And whosoever doth not bear his cross and come after me cannot be my discipleSo likewise whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath he cannot be my discipleBlessed are they who have been persecuted for righteousness sake For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven Blessed are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake Rejoice and be exceedingly glad for your reward in Heaven is great For so they persecuted the prophets who were before youBut it is worth itMark 102831 Then Peter began to say to Him Lo we have left all and have followed YouAnd Jesus answered and said Truly I say to you There is no man that has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands for my sake and the gospels sake but he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands with persecutions and in the world to come eternal lifeBut many that are first shall be last and the last shall be firstRomans 81619 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God And if we are children then we are heirs heirs of God and jointheirs with Christ so that if we suffer with Him we may also be glorified together For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the coming glory to be revealed in us For the earnest expectation of the creation waits for the manifestation of the sons of God|0 Good for you I cannot understand why anyone decides a job is worth dying for|1 some AmericansAbsolutely does not mean they testing all the dead|0 If they invented the valve they definitely have a right to exploit it exclusively for a number of years Unless the person is using a different process to make their product but ultimately you can patent both processes and products soHOWEVER patent law all over the world includes a very specific rule called compulsory licensing of patented products or technologiesBasically when the public interest national security or national health is on the line the government can license patents to anyone capable of manufacturing the tech because its for the common goodIt happened in a few countries over the past few years with gileads hepatitis c curing moleculeThe law may be slow but its not completely stupid And in IP law there exist a few provisions to deal with precisely situations like this|1 Im just concerned that people internationally who might have picked up the disease dont know it or think its probably not the virus since theyre well not in China And I dont know how receptive other countries are to testing locals who have symptoms They might have close contact with Chinese nationals who visited their country but dont know or dont remember itThis is the worst case scenario because it would be spreading and brewing without us knowing like the initial periods in China|0 If either of my parents die I am suing fox news and I suggest everyone else do the same Lets take every last penny of Rupert Murdochs zombie money and bankrupt the liars once and for all|0 This is important but its also important to note that theyre not the main ones dying They get sick but recover much more easily The death rate under 40 is 02 and over 80 is 218 representing over 60 of all deaths|0 I think theres a whole procedure So if youre feeling sick you gotta call this group of people who are in charge of your area Theyll come get you and bring you to the clinic If the doctors think its probably just a normal cold or its smth mild theyll ask you to go home to self quarantine Theyll call you up every day asking you how youre going And if your condition worsens youll be transferred to a hospital The thing is theres not enough test kits to go around So theyre using sparingly|0 found the guy 200k in college debt|0 Agreed They even said go ahead and book cruises if you are young and healthy Right after saying that symptoms dont show for 512 days|1 The rate of household infection is highIf you get it everyone you live with will get it as well guaranteed Best way is to not catch it in the first place|1 Best of luck to you maybe things awareness will start to improve now that CDC will ramp up testing next week|1 Do you mean like this httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMosquitolaser|1 Its almost certain given the other day he said 5 times for people without or with low symptoms to not worry about being tested The point that you can be infected without having symptoms really needed to be drilled home So Im glad theyre making him correct that now|1 Haha prozac just makes me more anxious Im afraid Less depressed for sure but more anxiousEdit not tryna discourage antidepressants in general just personal experience|1 Thats literally what Trump said about the cruise ship He didnt want to let them off the ship because he didnt want US infection numbers to go up from counting them|0 He should have been placed under a legal quarantine in the first place|1 What happens is they get so severe and so often that people just forget or stop caring because they feel like shitWhich is why they should be dumped into the ocean|0 I saw a patient recently who was PURPLEBLUE One look at him and you would think he was dying Instead i found out he took silver supplements from quacks like Alex Jones and permanently dyed his skin|1 Friend of a friend|1 Yes we were panicking I know that those who wont be able to find masks now will be panickingPanic early avoid the rush |0 Normally yes But look at the maps of the world right now Each area seems to have a different of infected so RIGHT NOW we really cant we dont have enough reliable data Also testing isnt so much to see what of ppl are infected but WHO isso we can help them|1 I mean CT scanning is hugely expensive and timeconsuming and you have to disenfect it after every scan so its not really viable This is the best we have but the false sense of security is worrying|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 They are also far more likely to recover from the virus than die from it|0 Mistake Hell no The test is at more than 3000 a pop and youll need multiple tests to get a true result If everyone and his cousin cant afford it Uncle Sam will be billed The moar the merrier Thats moar Amerikan than American To maximize onceina1000year profit potential the Big Pharma Medical Complex has to do everything in its power to make sure 80 or more of the population gets inflected Thats why theyre telling you masks are no good for you Thats why theyre telling you misinformation Theres nothing wrong here tho Lets hear it from Gordon GrekkoThe point is ladies and gentleman that greed for lack of a better word is good Greed is right greed works Greed clarifies cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit Greed in all of its forms greed for life for money for love knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind And greed you mark my words will savethe other malfunctioning corporation called the USA Thank you very much|0 Flu pneumonia attacks the bronchis sarsvivid19 caused pneumonia attacks the alveolusThe difference is that covid induced pneumonia leaves your lungs damaged for life that applies to all patients young or old that end up hooked to a respirator|0 lol Some people will just complain regardless of the situation|1 Yeah and what about day cares What is happening now is parents whose kids are out of school are now being sent to day cares causeing the same kind of health concerns Day cares are seeing this as a business opportunity They need to be closed too|1 Ive seen explanations here from people claiming to be Iranians it is somewhat less dire than it looksThis is partly to do with Islamic burial customs It is very important in Islam for the family to wash the body then bury it promptly Cremation is uncommon The families are said to be understandably reluctant to do that and theyre probably sick anyway This is a cultural moment of not knowing what the fuck to do Any civilization with access to excavation equipment can get rid of that many bodies in an hour dig a trench and chuck them in This is a moment of conflict between the customary way of handling remains that give peace and closure to the family and a new reality where that isnt possible They say these people died over the course of two or three days Thats horrible but one tends to assume that they died within a few hours|0 Remember when people were sending masks to China Because that happened Hope those people feel proud of themselves now|1 You certainly seem to|1 Your country is now pretending that is not a big deal to save the economy and putting its citizens and the rest of the world at riskThis is crazy irresponsible Remember this when this will be over they must be brought to justice|1 right what the fuck is wrong with people they are acting like china is our lord and savior when its their fault we even have this shit to deal with in the first place they are dirty people and its a breeding ground for disease this isnt news people|0 What are you talking about Every landborder crossing between the US and Canada already differentiates between commercial and noncommercialtraveller vehicles Theyre different lanes The distinction is pretty well defined|1 So whats the problemPeople can have different views on the situation noOr is it so that this is extremely serious is the right opinion and its just a flu bro is the wrong opinion And then you are the smart guy if you regurgitate the right opinionI think actually being smart is to not pick any opinion as a readymade module but actually think and bring up your own fully customized opinion Thats the discussion I would like to see|1 He didnt have ICU treatment so much as just standard outpatient care that happened to be inside a biohazard isolation roomOtherwise it was basically a short duration bout of walking pneumonia with a moderate fever The sort of thing people his age contract every so often|1 If you dont send your kids to school for a long enough time they warn you then if you still dont they put you in jail and child services take your kids|0 Those symptoms are not common 10 all told iirc and appear in mild cases too Its a pretty major stretch to say that a headache and vomiting alone are signs of infection in the brain Headache could very well be due to muscle sorenesstension common symptom and dehydration and nauseavomiting are very common signs of infection for many different types of viruses|1 The man in the video is a professor at Kobe university specialised in infectious diseases He entered the ship and was appalled by the conditionsPeople moving freely between safe and possibly contaminated zones One nurse not wearing protective gear at all as she thinks shes already infected People eating with their protective gloves on touching their phones and stuff around the ship This brave man helped out during the Ebola and SARS outbreaks but said the conditions on the ship scared him more than those occasions regarding the risk of getting infected He has now isolated himself in his home and asks foreign countries to put pressure on Japan to do something about the safety of the passengers and the staff working there|0 It appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the SARSCoV2 andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected We here at rCOVID19 recommend following the guidelines and advice 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Any advice that exceeds the recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts|1 what is he even thinking how could this turn out good for him lol|1 A logical advert would be a contradiction in terms|0 Aww man well at least youll be together Hope you still have an awesome birthday|1 Exactly but what happens when there is no more room for young or old people ICU treatment for COVID takes weeks once resources are truly saturated even young people will fall over in greater numbers|1 I have type o negative blood I would be more than eager to donate plasma|0 Some older guys eyes were popping out of his head when he saw me It was hilarious That aside dont they realize if were sick we can spread it to them Wear a mask to protect the older folks SAVE THE BOOMERS WEAR A MASK|1 Poopypants is a virus That means it mutates rapidly and can be hard to control It will cost DNA points to devolve it|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very 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have any questions or concerns|0 Argentinian here The least they could do to punish her for our troubles is live stream that quarantine Im sure it would be hilarious pass the popcorn|0 Interesting to see the il6 charted here on page 8 Lends credit to this Italian use of il6 immunosuppressant drugs httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffk8rctwopatientsinnapleshaverecoveredfromseverutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare offered at the right time Too early and the body cant fight the virus too late and the body has fought too hard and damaged itself|1 Lol preach When I moved home from college the summer after it blew up I stopped playing because there was literally nothing in my town of sub1000|1 Based on Italys number for age 90 the fatality is 19 so yes most of them 81 do survive|0 Thank God Why one earth anyone was ever fucking around with pangolins Ill never understand|1 Thanks I have a friend with a restaurant in France and everyone there is super chill just like we were two weeks ago I hope other EU countries will be more prepared than us when the virus will hit Stay safe my friend|1 Many South Asian countries share a border with China and are as poor or poorer than India And Trumps visit is like 9 days away His whole security detail went back after a recce|1 Seriously one update a day is usually enough|0 Deathscases on worldometer currently about 6 for Italy This is probably an over estimate but thats the number right now and most of those 10k case are not closed yet so it could still go up Especially if the hospitals are at 200 capacity and they arent able to do anything for many people|1 In Houston after 3 initial positive tests noone is being tested There are no tests available Not sure how we can rely on those numbers|1 bOtH sIdEs aRe bRaInWaShEdThats the kind of shit the right wing say when they realize how fucked up they are but of course they cant be the only ones who are in the wrong so its both sides equally|0 The data from China clearly shows this Wuhan has a death rate over 4 the rest of China is under 1 This is exactly due to the health system being saturated|0 Yes just blame china That solves every of our problems|0 Correct A vaccine prevents you from getting a virus therefore prevents you from spreading it A cure will save those already afflicted|1 The Scandinavian have social safety nets yet they are also a very capitalistic economy It still depends on the country though Just because it worked there doesnt mean it works hereWe inherently have a shitload of inefficiency here and there and most Americans dont know how to save and invest and considering we are literally the world biggest consumers we just buy more and more and save just to buy|1 We had some foster puppies with giardia and its SUPER hard to keep that from spreading when you have dogs who mingle with one another It got passed around for awhile before we got it stopped|1 I read an article statement from TrumpI dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasnt our fault Mr Trump said on Saturday Are the numbers what matters here or the people|1 I dont want my scissors getting sick|0 You are crazy|0 I followed the link and Snopes says it is true|1 Agree Healthcare in Korea is best in the world|1 I just had this discussion with a colleague and I said I would rather not get into a whole pedantic tangent about what viruses are and just say kill especially if Im talking to someone not in virology|0 Just caught wind of a confirmed case at UAB Stay safe and roll tide|1 I wrote a post about this in ranxiety yesterday Its my assessment that the reactions to both diseases have been very similar Take what I say with a grain of salt though as Im highly anxious and very observant and attuned to things like this no matter whatI think a lot of the anxiety around this stems from two things1 H1N1 while a novel flu virus was still the flu we all know well this other virus is totally new To me being anxious as all hell its like comparing your familiar run of the mill vampire with a rogue alien life form you know nothing about if I can use a monster analogy 2 H1N1 was already essentially a pandemic by the time it was recognized Part of the added anxiety around this I think is that so many nations are still trying to contain it to avoid it becoming a pandemic|0 oh we found the emoif you want to die because your life sux its ok just die let us the people who enjoy it keep living moron|0 She doesnt seem very cautious|1 It has been hypothesized for a long time that bat viruses evolved in high IFN environments and that their adaptations to circumvent that level of interferon produces too much virulence in other mammals Ebola SARS MERs and likely this virus replicate by suppressing interferon or circumvent ithttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5604070Using interferon early will likely reduce the virulence There may be a problem with only using interferon The interferon in most mammals can lead to inflammation and pneumonia Bats use only a few types of interferon and it is thought this also reduces their inflammatory response httpswwwcellcomcellhostmicrobefulltextS1931312816300063Giving people who are exposed interferon an immunosuppressant and antiinflammatories may reduce virulence and cases of lethal pneumonia The human B cell response is more robust and faster to develop than in bats This means we can completely clear the virus The slow development of B cells in bats means it is poorly adapted to a faster antibody response This may mean plasma transfusions with existing B cells and antibodies from recovered patients is likely even more effective the early it is given to infected peoplehttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle213141838article|1 Nope Im a nurse in geriatrics which is terrifying right now I work in a convent so weve been able to close the building off to anyone but essential employees Some of the nuns arent even allowed to come in|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Luckily the trend of naming it trumpvirus so atleast we know who to put the blame on |1 I dont think its necessarily a bad thing to prioritize testing the leaders of the free world but it feels weird to claim he isnt being tested at allWe know hes the Prime Minister of Canada we know his responsibilities are a little more important to the general public so its just strange that they would pretend that they arent giving him special treatmentHe gets special treatment everywhere else|0 Ive been saying this My daughter has had three viral illnesses this season two landed us in the ER Supposedly she has asthma though there are no triggers except viral illnesses so it is possible None of these three times were any tests ordered and we were given medications to treat her as if she has asthma exacerbations and sent home So none of these times have I known what virus made my daughter sick and when asked to do testing the second time it happened inJanuary hospital staff told me it wasnt necessary to know |0 Im not sure what the correct stance on Prime delivery isYou have a fair point but they are basically human drones that dont really contact humans they just touch the objects that touch the hands They are needed for the people who will be unable to go out for supplies when they need it like the senior citizens because their family members may be in another state or country|1 You dont name your biggest holiday USD though|1 Unfortunately true the horse has left the stable|1 It will help to understand many key details of the virus Transmission R0 effect |1 Vegas is like the Petri dish of the world who knows who he came in contact with and where they were from|1 Added to bodyThere were no false positives found during the more careful process of verifying the test but the situation is very different in crisis zones|0 Thanks|1 So we now have 2 things to protect stock market and law makers God help Americans|1 The one that every country is slowly moving towards that a few have already come to but none have had the confidence to do before the hospitals overfill and bodies start piling up We know whats coming just do it now close the border quarantine everyone Everything else is secondary and can be worked out as we go We are overcomplicating this to our massive detriment|1 Yea sure there can be plenty of union corruption in the same way there can be political corruption You dont write off the whole notion though because its a strategy for organising just like politics it depends on the types of individuals participating and what theyre willingunwilling to do that determines the outcomes You in a union branch where you feel your rep is corrupt Then organise and vote them out|1 The default rule in the United States is that you cant sue someone who made a bad decision if you understood how bad the decision was you went along with it and you suffer harm called assumption of the risk However state laws or OSHA might have specific carveouts for this situation your mileage may vary depending on location job etc|0 That is unbelievable|1 and everyone of them will ignore these CDC suggestions|0 You are definitely not the only person that thinks it is odd Im just hoping that it is an extreme overreaction because the alternative is a bit grim|0 Assuming only 20 of cases need ICU apparently only 6 needs ICU correcting my initial estimates and assuming nobody else needs ICU but the corona folks which is ridiculous they have room to have 25000 80000 casesMore realistically probably they at most have 33 of ICU beds available suggesting when they hit 7500 30000 cases shit will hit the fanHopefully rest of ItalyEurope does not progress that fast so they can transfer the patients otherwise we might see them hitting the wall within next 45 days next 34 weeks|0 They would cover it up at any cost They would look weak if they reported the actual numbers Also reporting the actual numbers would cause instant financial panic which Im sure theyre trying to avoid I could be wrong Time will tellWhat I cant reconcile is the numbers theyre pointing out vs the actions that they are taking Does not make sense at all|0 Medical care workers are exposed to COViD19 the most during intubation process when aerosol particles of the virus is projected all around Not sure about after the intubation process|1 How can you know what you dont know What kind of logic is this You can assume that there are things that you dont know but you cannot know what you dont knowI get your point of view that there are many speculations and misinformation But dialogue and debate are better alternatives of just waiting to see what happens And everyone needs discern facts from BS for themselves I dont know how is for others but for me this community on Reddit kept me informed And this feeling of at least partially knowing whats happening gives me a feeling of control I am pretty sure that when people around are going to freak out I will be able to keep calm because I can assess better the gravity of this situation I am pretty sure that those that are ignorant now and downplay this now are going to panic and freak out when things are going to be at large scale because they will simply dont know at the fuck is happening and they will overestimate then the gravity of this epidemicPS You dont need a PhD to think or you shouldnt be discouraged to think if you dont have a PhD |1 That sounds right Thank you so much Please be sure to join the rcovid19 reddit team too|1 Donald Trump says the UK is allowed in still because of the measures we are taking to control the virus We are taking NO measures|0 Dubliner here Reading between the lines of recent statements Im hoping they plan to cancel it but theyre waiting for more cases to develop so theyre not seen as alarmist or premature and the hospitality sector wont have any ammo to hit them with I suspect the press releases are already written|0 Trump cut the budgets in 2017 and 18 so comparing 18 and 19 is just like the CDCs Covid testing policy You cant see if it you dont look|1 Yes exactly Id 100 rather go through all this isolation and have these annoying conversations than potentially cause other people to get sick It comes to a moral responsibility and you have to not give a shit about others opinions Im so glad youre starting to feel better though I hope so much it continues to improve and youre back to normal in no time|1 Remember that the test is a glimpse in time You can get a negative test touch a pole on a bus on your way home and then contract the virus The best thing to do while mass testing is rolled out is to stay home and wash your hands regularly|1 Because if America gets overwhelmed it wont be able to develop the vaccines without the vaccines we are all in trouble|0 Preaching to the choir I think most people in this sub understand that Wish everyone else understood this|1 It will spread all over the world but way less in Oslo compared to lets say Milan or LA LA has 4mill Milan has 14mill Oslo only 650k and even less in the other cities in Norway with 34 times lower population than that|0 Sounds good but some people are sick and staying home We still dont want them infecting their caretakers and those guys infecting people at the grocery store What do people do|0 Yes they think were stupid and theyre right|0 Oh wow I didnt realize you were the one that made the article That makes alot of sense|1 No one ever said it was a reason for restos to stay open I was just pointing out some people do have a reason for eating in a resto instead of getting take out The original comment I answered was why would you eat in instead of getting take outWill Uber eats deliver to the table Just curious as we dont have that where I am And I suspect most other small towns dont have it either We have one local delivery service that charges 610 per delivery The only thing Ive ever seen about Uber eats showed the recipient walking out to the car to collect it and carry it in I dont know if thats the norm though|0 CCP wants the rest of the world to have the virus If it was just them then they would be at a disadvantage|0 Do you have a fever If not dont bother There will be millions with just coughs soon Allergy season has hit the south already this year|0 I had the exact same thing last week Unlike any cold or flu Ive ever had zero nasal symptoms Im in NYC and would never have occurred to me even a week ago that I could have had it but now Im not so sure|0 You didnt get my point If even 1 in 10 young people even get corona virus the effectice survival rate is 1 in 10000 by your logic Im not saying I want to get corona virus I was saying ir you get on an airplane your automatically subject to the 1 in 1000 But theres only a 1 in 10 or whatever the probability of getting the virus actually is chance of having the 1 in 1000 chance of dying of coronavirus|1 Olderelderly people are more likely to die from the virus not more likely to catch it or spread itEdit I apparently took umountainOlards comment in the wrong way Yes it has been advised that people over 60 years old take extra precautions|0 I work at a TB and honestly his boss will probably be fine with it We are already deader than Ive ever seen it Regional manager told us today to cut hours and if we do close the dining room thats just that many more hours that need to be cut|1 They are giving refunds now Hopefully they wont be given a choice in the matter Cancel it|1 Ill never forget that song from Tony Hawks Underground|0 I dont even live there and Im mad Wtf Provide info and protect the peopleOh and I dug up an interesting article to compare Fox was digging into Obama The surgeon general and a special assistant surgeon general for Ebola defense should be dispensing daily information about public health initiatives and medical research initiatives being undertaken to contain and combat the illnessMeanwhile the current White House pushes back its press conference and we barely hear anything of substance from them Blows my mind httpswwwfoxnewscomopinionebolaoutbreakwhyobamaisallowingebolaphobiatospread|0 Thank you for your courageI understand that the Chinese are a very hard working people so my question is With people being told to stay at home how are they handling all the free time Are they coping emotionallyI believe it can be extremely frustratingGood luck friend|1 Some things I have learned about college and university closures is that there are still large gatherings of students if they live in dorms or have a student dining facility So no real social distancing Also once spring break starts the students will be spread across the state and country|0 and no one wants to help them eitherI was talking about this every euro country is scrambling to not crash into the same situation because they ALL underestimated it Most of us are only 12 weeks behind|1 This is how I explained it to my husband in the beginning of February I told him if it got bad enoughincluding supply chain issues there would possibly be rationsMost of those who remember rations and lived with it as an adult are dead and gone We have a population full of people who are going to panic at having to ration and the thought of running outAlso my mom even up until yesterday evening told me I was overreacting She also mentioned not having disposable gloves because she cant use sanitizer Guess who went home with a box of gloves because I preppedYep my mom|0 This is interesting Some states cannot even get the tests and Colorado is installing a drive thru|1 Is it bad I laughed|0 Our battles with viruses are so ancient that they are part of our DNA We evolved with them or despite them depending on who you ask For instance Human Endogenous Retroviruses HERVs are thought to be 48 of the human genome Since HIVs are retroviruses the saga continues httpswwwpharmaceuticaljournalcomresearchresearcharticleweareallpartvirustheroleofhumanendogenousretroviruses11135043articlefirstPassfalsehttpswwwpharmaceuticaljournalcomresearchresearcharticleweareallpartvirustheroleofhumanendogenousretroviruses11135043articlefirstPassfalsex200BThis nCoV looks like a multimodal pathogen meaning its not really a strictly respiratory disease just causing pneumonia We already saw that it attacks the cardiorenal system the immune system It is also apparent that it has an enteric route causing enteritis or some type of inflammation along the digestive tract which is why it could be hard to detect Intestinal inflammation may go about without causing visible symptoms a lot longer then respiratory inflammation My suspicion is that the so called super spreaders may belong to this groupWhat are the sequelae after effects of the infection Everyone is asking the same question Im sure potential effects on the nervous system and reproductive system are being examined|1 thanks one part said its controlled by government|1 Female Doctor in Wuhan 29 years old died 39 days after getting CVx200BPeople hating on Boomers aside nobody is safe despite their age or relative health currently|0 This is the CDC being unable to make tests fast enough The states arent really to blame theyre not allowed to make their own tests|1 More like the swiss pike method to deflect arrows|1 CDC still believe Coronavirus is just like SARSI think they should read this sub to understand more of this virus|1 Dear god yesTake the stomach flu for example Its stupid contagious and you can watch it travel through a school of 800 within a month Plus their families Evil evil stomach flu|0 Since the roads are empty httpstechcrunchcom20200123waymosselfdrivingtrucksandminivansareheadedtonewmexicoandtexashttpstechcrunchcom20200123waymosselfdrivingtrucksandminivansareheadedtonewmexicoandtexas|0 I was like worst case scenario means I have a few extra bags of pasta and rice in the house Oh no|0 Not much is said about the CEOs exit httpswwwfiercebiotechcombiotechwasitsomethinghesaidbiotechceowhometpresidenttrumpmonthexitswithoutawordPeople claim they want a smoking gun disregarding that said gun is still only circumstancial evidence|0 Im having intense feelings of dread|0 My job involves working a lot with Chinese clients via internet These last two weeks I had not 1 of them contact me I earned 300 this month and have no clue how Ill pay for food and everything|0 Is better than nothing good enoughDo you know how to don and doff a mask Do you seal it in a biohazard bag and dispose of it properly when you are done Do you hang it on the coatrack next to the door and only put it on and off when you go outsideTheyre a single use item As in one time And if a product like the n95 is said to reduce 95 of particulate matter and is 50x more effective than a bandana Then how effective can a bandana be People who wear these things adjust them on their faces with their bare hands all the time getting the particulate matter on the outside of the mask all over their hands|1 its not complacence look at the situation its fine to go out there and try to save the economy a little|1 Agreed|1 Yes think you meant 20 fatality from the icu eventually thats true but this wouldnt match current numbers until we get more younger people in the case populationI used 17 icu as thats the number of patients that are expected to get pneumonia and have potential for pulmonary fibrosis I expect requiring hospitalization ICU is probably the wrong term its hospitalization and then 50 of that for the ICU gets you the 10 icu requirement rate|0 Smoking history or obesity is also included in pre existing conditions and is a risk factor|0 Ive spent 1200 on groceries the past two weeks and it is so embarrassing shopping It shouldnt be embarrassing|0 Currently living in Singapore right now i dont feel safe at all since were surrounded by neighbours that arent taking this seriously enough|0 Wow|1 This is why all the avoid panic crap was more dangerous than scaring peopleThe same happened at the outset of Ebola 2013 and WHO covered exactly this issue in their postmortem Shame they didnt seem to remember|0 Would you rather all the healthcare workers stop treating patients for 2 weeks|0 You quoted the article but omitted this The New York Times reported Thursday An NIAID spokesperson told Business Insider the claim in the Times report is not true|0 A few times when waiting in line for the checkout Id start chatting to the person next to me and ask whether they were doing any prepping and to the checkout clerk too Most people were completely unaware about the situation until I told them The last time was a few weeks ago now but seems like longer I hope I planted a few seeds|1 Ive read a few articles about the potential breakdown of society and what that would mean Some conclusions go as far as to say that people would be better off dead than to be suffering post breakdown I tend to agree with these conclusions If society doesnt fall apart well be able to take care of those that need it If it does whatever youve done to prepare probably wont mean much in the big picture|0 Social distancing like this during a new outbreak that we have low knowledge of seems like a proportionate response for the region Should generally be considered a good move Unintended collateral consequences aside Stay positive right|1 Im not dead yet|1 Terry forgot to save the spreadsheet before closing|1 Because we remember the swine flu scareCatching it wasnt so bad I stayed home for a week|1 Exactly We need people on the front lines to tell us what is happening just as the doctors and nurses in China and Iran have been doing As Ive mentioned in other comments ANYONE who has relevant information such as documents emails pictures videos are more than welcome to contact me so we can help show the public what is happening in hot zones|1 Im interested to see if when Germany will close universities Most if not all are in spring break right now so its not necessary but lectures start again next Monday at the technical schools Germany also gets a ton of international students and my uni is having a introduction event for them on Thursday Basically lots of people coming from all over having spend hours in planes acting as incubators and then meeting other students and faculty members Its under a 100 people though so it wasnt cancelled|1 Liberal here theres nothing wrong with closing borders temporarily for national security and public health 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RemindershttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessagelistReminders21 QuestionshttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectFeedback2120Reminder20from20dragnar1212|1 Singapore is authoritarian one party rule with a very very limited democratic process and few civil liberties Of that list except Taiwan dont know about it South Korea is probably the only thing close to a true democracy|1 It will hurt other people when they think theyre cured and refuse to isolate|0 Of course this is completely silly as the best way to reduce the impact is to get on top of the issue test as many people as possible put quarantines into place and try to keep the impact of the infection to the lowest possible level even if that is really high Trying to bury our heads is simply going to make it so so much worseit will completely stop our economy crash the stock market and virtually guarantee that Trump is ousted from office no matter who his opponent isIm completely cool with the last point there but I would prefer it to not go handinhand with potentially millions of deaths|1 I hope you never get to feel what its like to be in my shoes Stay safe|1 Lol at the thought of 9 pasta sauce with ramen Gotta do what you gotta do You could try specialty or upscale shops for pasta I went to Whole Foods the other day and there were only 8 packages of pasta left so I snagged a few of those|1 I almost 100 agree with you except that it seems like theyre flying by the seat of their pants Completely believe it will result in countless lost lives and people should be held accountable I wonder if its giving them too much credit to think theyre following a playbook Theyre incapable of doing so|1 You say no Firmly This is where I have an advantage Im a self centered prick for years who only cares about myself and my daughter in this And we have everything we need|1 HERE WEHERE WEHERE WE EXPO GROWTH|1 I agree on suggesting people work out a bit eat proper food with great nutrients get some good sleep and maybe take some vitamins squeeze a lemon once in a while why dont yaBut promoting miracle cures super vitamin bombs or other things that people can buy is a bad ideaFor once its just add spamI even seen multiple people showing up promoting some miracle gadgets that supposedly produce special frequencies that will destroy all bad viruses and bacteria and illnesses in your bodyfor a price ofcPlease stop and work on your self and your bad habits first|0 China brought them in quickly successItaly brought them in slowly failure|0 So that means the fatality rate is potentially even more underestimated|0 I dont understand how something that is airborne dropletborne can be so easily transmitted by people who are not coughing and sneezing ie producing airborne droplets Is it because these folks are picking their noses and wiping their eye juice with their fingers and then rubbing their hands all over Walmart It just seems odd that symptoms to put the droplets in the air arent required|1 I appreciate your appreciation I like helping people but people still drive me absolutely crazy sometimes when they do dumb irresponsible stuff I think its part of our American culture Cant take time off Otherwise youre not hard working Or youre not a man or whatever nonsense And a lot of employers instill that in people too In this situation its like they want more people to get sick and lose more money Its better in the long run to allow people time of for being sick specifically|0 The number infected is probably already in the thousands The goal is to slow the spread not to stop it 100 Schools will probably move to a online system soon NYC school attendence is already at a record low even less than after 911|0 According to theDaily Star crematorium workers have been inundated with bodies of victims and are forced to work flat out and without a breakThe Daily Star is a tabloid and definitely not trustworthy so just forget ever having read this article|0 I think its more like Americana upvote American news as thats whats relevant to them Whilst for example the hundred or so just guessing Norwegians like me tend to upvote relevant NorwegianEuro newsI doubt any of us are much more self centred than others but reddit is an American website|1 Of course youd say that since you teach English in China Your profession has little to no value in the west so youre kind of forced to stay But for others with flexibility in location its best to avoid China because of the risks involved|1 Masks are in short supply everywhere in Europe though Can you still get them in DenmarkIm in no way shape or form excusing STEALING FROM A HOSPITAL like a psychopath Im just curious if you all still have masks available somehow when theyre basically unobtainable elsewhere in the EU Like did your government actually plan ahead and stockpile or something|0 Ive seen the same thing You arent crazy People are just really bad at math and dont accept the predictions|0 I hope Spanish doctors have seen this Theyre making tough decisions atm this might make some a bit easier|1 Have any of them spoken out about their experience Would be interested to hear|1 The thing is that good care is not going to be what people are receiving when the pandemic is at its peak Even in the US Especially if it overlaps with seasonal flu|1 Sounds reasonable Seems like SARS every day|1 Im yet to see a government official saying that Its bros on Twitter and Facebook who are saying its just a bad flu|0 What a hateful place The titles make me sick Wow|0 chapter 3 was on Lymeswell now Im worried 0o|0 States that have less cases than others have closed schools statewide Good What is up with WA CA NY Senseless|1 Would this existing drug need to repass certification for the new purpose or notI have no experience in that field|0 Is ECMO surgical intervention of some kindIf so that sounds fucking terrifying|0 As soon as my hospital sent out an email saying they were preparing the airborne isolation rooms like a month ago I knew this shit had to be airborney|0 Even then stupid fucks will keep being stupid|0 Trust me Im super against the overreaching speculations But this isnt a stretch High stress even if its not family related brings out the worst in abusive households Tension and inability to distance yourself lead to escalation and thats when shit hits the fan|0 Hi many thanks for this its a great offer Im just running it past the moderators on the main rCOVID19 sub a few of whom are also microbiologists I think it would be a great opportunity to find out what people are struggling to understand and provide clear explanations for It might be my morning about 10 hours time before I get back to you now but look forward to discussing more|1 There are reports of multiple circulating strains so my concern is reinfection with a second one might be more severe Antibody treatment with the identical strain may still be effective even if this effect is present nonexpertedit this seems to be unreliable or wrong|0 Im in the same boat Wedding is in September and Im nervous I will obviously cancel if needed but things have been changing so much day to day its hard to even guess|0 Containment measures up to this point in the US seem to be nothing more than a charade when it is almost impossible for there not to be infected people everywhere by now I just cant believe that there hasnt been a better effort to test in the US up to this point while there are other countries testing hundreds and thousands of people already unfortunately verifying that the virus is already widespread WTF is going on Unfortunately it is hard to accept that this may be an intended outcome No tests No confirmed The saddest part about it is our for profit healthcare system doesnt even know how to deal with something that they cant diagnose and people are being turned away after being given an inhaler and an expensive medical bill|0 Happy cakeday|1 Stay strong|1 But instead youll get a old bloke that likes touching young girls Still better than the current molester in charge but not by much|1 Thank you Its a start considering the mention of contract it seems theres a financial side to it all which is unfortunate imo Will have to cross reference this and verifyImho if this is true and that China is charging Italy for everything theyre sending them then there most definitely needs to be a narrative pushed that makes that clear to people That this is a financial transaction and not a charity sort of operation Big distinction in these times when it comes to these things I wouldnt be surprised Look at Chinas track record Fml this world is ugly|1 Its helps bitcoin and bernie|1 Its March Break next week in Ontario Unless the government steps in I expect a large spike in tests and cases in the next 12 weeks to reflect the ignorant and reckless outings and vacations to all the March Break hotspots|0 Ive gotten pretty good at not touching my face but I cant break the habit of adjusting my hair which then falls into my face a few minutes laterIve toyed with the idea of getting a pixie cut for a few years maybe nows the time|1 I live in Madison WI I reached out to my doctor out of an abundance of concern Ive got a runny nose mild headache moderate lack of energy a sore throat and a very infrequent cough I was directed to complete a telemedicine evaluation I answered questions about my condition ended up speaking to absolutely no one despite being told Id get a call and was diagnosed with a cold I specifically asked to be tested because my wife works with high risk disabled people This request was completely ignored|0 Happy cake day|1 National Emergency TWO VERY BIG WORDS|0 Since you can have it and not know about it the most conservative strategy is for everyone to wear masks That way healthy people will wear masks uselessly but they will not get infected by someone who is sick without symptoms|0 This is the plan purposely get the population infected so they can build a resistance Those who get well start donating blood and start transfusing to critically ill patients and other infected so they can get well|0 Teacher from CT Really disappointed with the lack of response so far We should be proactive rather than reactive however its just not a reality The effects of school closures trickle too much into economics Im afraid its going to be too late of a move|0 I appreciate that there are lots of logistical challenges and downsides of closing schoolsThat said if we do not make planned deliberate disruptions to our systems now these same systems will be disrupted soon enough with much less chance to get things in place or to communicate clearlyIm sure there are ways to provide many of these services to kids in other ways Lets figure out how to make that happen so we can close the schools soon rather than having the schools close abruptly when COVID19 is in the community with the services abruptly stopping at exactly the worst moment|0 Why would a pump run on a fuel cell Like this kind of fuel cellhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFuelcellWhy not just a conventional diesel or gasoline generator Why a cumbersome fuel like hydrogen|1 My mom just under 60 works for the department of defense and has no choice but to report into work They do temperature checking on the military base she works at and one day had a fever so they sent her home to quarantine herself During that week span she became pretty ill not necessarily from coronavirus since they didnt treat it couldve been anything and it was pretty scary We need more plans to protect the elderly when it comes to work and income and I would beg that anybody over 60 that can stay home does|1 Its not a very helpful metric right now as it seems this virus takes weeks to resolve The completed case fatality rates are staggering That is completed case patient discharged healthy or patient died aka the case is complete The completed case fatality rate is sitting around 2030 in Italy and South Korea|0 I think a big part of it is that the states were working under the assumption that this was something the federal government took off their plate since thats the main reason the CDC existsThey thought going in that their job would be to implement what the CDC decided to do not to wholly coordinate the response themselvesThey didnt have anything in place to actually do that part since structurally they werent supposed toBut when the CDC and DHHS started fucking up whatever the reason whether honest mistakes politics ineptitude The states started to realize the government was going to let them burnI think the state governments are probably more panicked than we are|0 Great idea Now itll be much much more convenient for everyone|1 Its a national emergency anyone working where theres alot of people walking around or just there is a risk too While no one willingly wants to get sick or die people need a job to pay there bills and cant afford to take off|0 Youve got a friend in me Tom Hanks|1 Captain John Smith Seriously|0 Im not in the run for your lives camp because there is no where to run|0 I dont think thats how this works its called federalism He should stop shifting blame|0 Tempe Im job searching and because I have a lot of sales experience I think Ill be ok Theres definitely options just gotta make the transition asap for financial sake|1 Thats right As a general rule there is no cure for viruses like there are for bacteria There are antiviral drugs that work for specific or narrow groups of viruses Vaccines when they exist greatly reduce chance of infection but do not eliminate itMost people simply recover from viral infections by way of their own immune system and symptom managing Healthcare in the case of severe infectionsRecovery varies by virus Flu may be eradicated from the body where HIV stays for life and can only be controlled to date Chicken pox hides in spinal fluid and can reappear late in life when natural immunity to the virus has fadedI am not sure what recovery for covid19 looks like Accounts are mixed Some cases have reported a resurgence of infection after two days of negative tests The majority of people who get covid19 or the flu for that matter will recover completely without any medical intervention It is possible that antivirals could be invented for covid19 Billions are currently being allocated for research|0 I was gonna ask for verification this is legit but then I looked at Google Maps traffic road blocks around Maleo Italy oo|0 Dont think it is helpful to lay blame without all the facts I feel very sorry for Italy a great country and people|1 Its not an erosion if its temporary I sure as fuck dont want people organising huge virus parties if the restriction is permanent then Ill riot|0 Its not free its just included in other taxes here its itemized based on water usage Same with trash its based on how many trash cans you need|0 What data though We dont have good data yet We dont trust the data from China|0 what they didnt say masks dont work they said the random guy in the suburbs probably doesnt need it especially compared to the HEALTHCARE worker that may be exposed to it everyday the reddit echochamber is something else|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Kudos to you and your organization|1 Looking at a sample size of 11 and assuming that 1 is high is a statistical fail|0 If there are American lives on the line then fuck the law His duty is to his constituents and his country not the legal system nor anybody who hopes to cover their asses by classifying things If I had a choice between prison time for revealing to the public a serious threat to their wellbeing or being lumped in with a bunch of other donothing politicians whom history will judge as being partially responsible for a fiasco Id choose the former This is Bluementhal wanting to have his cake and eat it too|0 source If that were the case they would increase the death count which they havent|0 My crush just texted me in a panic because he doesnt have enough food and the grocery stores are empty I have been telling him to stock up for a MONTH And I cant help him At least his sons school district is giving out free daily food|0 US Regime Hard cringe|0 Well the overweight part is bipartisan at least|0 Yeah but are they removing Objective arguments like this or straight up whack job conspiracy theories that help no one|0 Yes|1 I live pretty rural so I can only speak for that part but people here see no threat at all Theyre all looking forward to the next big Kirmes festival to drink beer and throw up on each other I cant talk about it with anyone but one good friend and my parents luckily but from everyone else youre getting treated like some conspiracy theorist You take care as well|1 Reminds me of Chinese cities fight for mask shipments in scramble to stop coronavirushttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3049508chinesecitiesfightmaskshipmentsscramblestopcoronavirus|0 Ohh I saw it in the medical lab I watched multiple people barf in the biohazard bin We also had someone almost die of diabetes Multiple of us got the flu and believe me we still had to come in It wrecked everyoneYou would think a medical lab would understand disease transmission|0 I remember that the first week should be crucial Then it was next weekend and next weekend and next weekend So on and so on If you yell wolf everyday Im sure you get it right eventually We can go back to the start of this outbreak and watch how wrong doomers was it was bound to happen eventually yes but people predicted things to escalate way faster than it did|1 CDC were definitely not competent in The Walking Dead|0 I am hoping that you are doing better if notPlease get medical attentionAlso hoping that your friend is better too|1 Sure and dont think about the elderly you put at risk if people get infected Its pretty selfish imho|0 There isnt a single chinese source that has metro population figures Im not sure they do a census on metro population But the chinese wikipedia article says the city population is 64 million from the 2015 and the resident population is 11 millionMost sources have wuhan as having 11 million people even the english sources like bbc Also travelling doesnt mean anything You cant determine the specific population at a place by just being there lol|1 Exposure to the ill and most likely exhaustion from overworking during the influx of the ill Murders the immune system even without a lethal virus at large|0 i work weird hours so leaving it at the door would probably be the best bet|1 Good try I will give it a go next time Im the supermarket I went before I saw this and took a paper one on purpose|1 Cant you just have the return line to bubble through a barrel of boiling water or something nasty Should kill the virus|0 YES This finally makes sense I work for the airport and I was morbid sick trying to stay away from people in January After 4 days I finally went and stayed with my parents and used a TON of wipes to clean anything my parents who R older with health issues like touch|1 First thats a website that sells those supplements so not exactly an unbiased sourceA simple internet search turns up many scientific articles like those linked in the study Very easy to searchSecond your body has fought a cold or a flu before this Coronavirus is something your immune system hasnt seen before Its a very different situationNo shit Sherlock Go back to my original comment I didnt say anything about evidence these supplements help with coronavirus because its obviously too early to know that|1 So if you have no kids and nobody with your address has been diagnosed or instructed by a health care provider to quarantine you should be prepared to appeal your case|1 I hear CNRL has already made plans for the employees to work from home I hope Suncor has done the same|1 I still get irritated with the outcry over celebrity deaths Why does his death matter more than the helicopter pilot or anybody else People cared more about Kobe dying than the collective deaths in natural disastersSorry this is offtopic Its just irritating to me how much the general public cares more about people due to fame On a more related note I think its very likely we will see a few celebrity deaths from covid19|0 And what happens after those emergency orders run out eventually They cant restock if everyone clears out everything Hoarders are going to realize that they are only shooting themselves in the foot when their communities suddenly get a giant spike in cases because hospital staff now cannot or refuse to work due to lack of PPE|0 I think that too and i hope that too|1 The one thing I will say is that everyone shitting on the administrations public stance seems to miss or ignore the fact that theyre trying to prevent people from outright panicking which would make things worse in every way|0 Trump sent aid to PR PR leaders said he didnt send aiddidnt send enough aid and that people are dying etc Fast forward a year or so Turns out the PR leaders hid most of the aid in warehouses to make Trump look bad|0 Agreed|1 Yeah one of my best friends vapes like crazy Im worried about him|1 Florida Man informs the peopleHuh thats a new one Good going Florida Man|1 Ah so they used the burning of a historic monument as a PR opportunity Only a matter of days then before they give billions to stop the virus s|1 Wtf|0 Australia have less than 300 confirmed cases A chunk are recovered and we have effectively closed borders banned events and gatherings of 500 and it will close schools soon We are testing faaar more than the us and UK Being mentioned in the same breath as the us and the UK is not fair atall|0 httpsyoutubeq4hVXG8xrMhttpsyoutubeq4hVXG8xrM He does know his shit|0 No its okay Its hard not to just assume I do it all the time with a lot of stuff And that makes me less stressed thank you for the info I feel terrible for everyone that its impacting though |0 I started singing when I reached the last sentence lol This is good news for all pets owners|1 I hope I was wrong too I have been following articles on this since late January Maybe the cases I read are rare cases We sure need to study more on the prognosis And diagnosis Saying its like a flu definitely is harmful|1 Good call I have noticed that the more I read the bad news the worse I feel Id suggest a break from all this constant bad news and keep your parents safe|0 Im due in September Im 41 and this is my first child so Im freaking out about complications and not being able to have the baby in a medical setting The current steps to slow the virus down has made me feel a LITTLE less apprehensive about this I wish you all safe deliveries|1 I listened to it I think it is great information but it needs to be more succinct He should boil down his research to a 2 minute synopsis then proceed with whatever detail he wants to get into He will lose a lot of listeners who dont have the luxury to listen to the whole thing Big points from this is the chart with Italy data the hospital bed fill rate exponential growth and estimated time until all beds are filled Those are big takeaways and could be said right up front He shouldnt have to read texts from other people word for word Just give highlights and credit the source Also he should try to keep personal opionion out of the analysis If he is an engineer as he purports he should realize this as an automatic His disdain for the handling politics and stupidity surrounding this situation is very apparent but at this stage harping on the mistakes of the past arent going to help get the crucial message out|0 Ah my bad Two other people have legitimately tried correcting me so I assumed you were one of them Maybe Im the dense one then p|0 You asked for scientific evidence I provided a peer reviewed paper demonstrating that SARSCOV2 elicits an IgG long term immune response and a preprint validating that result If you cant be arsed to read them thats your problem not mineI also didnt say anything about 2 years for SARSCOV2 but given the type of immune response in SARSCOV is the same it is likely that the effects will be similar Again that is not coming from me but from the paper written by experts in the field|1 Yeah its been about a week since the world has caught on People are talking like weve been in isolation for months Unless youre in ChinaItaly|1 As someone who has not prepared at all i have to say Im very very ok No problems what so ever|0 Hey get your dirty science and scientists out of here this is a place for PANIC and HYSTERIA only The only people who know what they are talking about are the ones buying out masks and hand sanitizer|0 China is about to go on a spending spree and greatly increase its control of western companies|1 Yes we would be briefed and would have gotten lots of panicked 911 calls This story does not make sense|0 If they werent N95 masks then they didnt do shit to protect themselves|1 And they will only learn if people refuse to follow their orders|0 I think there is another case a lady from Wuhan took fever pill and then flew to France I dont know if she has confirmed case thoughBut really humans can be very selfish|0 Are you ok|1 it is probably way more than that 80 of ppl who get it have mild flu like symptoms and probably do not go hospital so they are not in this statistic but they need to self quarantine well cuz its way more infectious than influenza|1 It is fascinating I agree|1 Let me rephrase Canned food is no good if you cant get it out to eat itI realize there are other ways to get it out of the can and eat it but when I consider that almost everybody uses can openers I can just imagine a bunch of people stabbing themselves on their first attempts to open a can without one If someone is able to make sure they have a working can opener thats preferable|1 Good for you You did the right thing Let him be mad|0 Get fucked|0 This is getting really fucked I wonder if the asymptomatic people just take much longer to get symptoms|0 or not disturbing the silt|1 Youre not wrong Lmaoo|1 This may be a dumb question but what do you use to clean your keysphone effectively|1 1000 a month still wouldnt replace all lost wages but it could be a literal life saver for many|1 the fact that they just have a dry cough for like 5 days and no other symptomsSounds like half my office Yet we have not been advised to work from home even though we can easily do that|1 This doesnt make sense Athletes are usually really intelligent and considerate humans|1 said this before and ill say it again the next disaster is going to be India Italy and China will be nothing in comparison|0 AOC would like to speak to you|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than 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family Thats crazy|0 If you are management at all you should be ok for s it Front line will go first|1 This is it folks Thats what it looks like when hospitals become over run|1 I wouldnt use grocery delivery myself maybe right now but not later on given the number of deliveries that are made potentially to people who are infected who have the same idea I would also not trust that the delivery personel to know the right procedures on how to minimize any contamination Eg Not handling money that they use gloves that they dont sneezecough in the vehicle or while carrying my groceries etc Call me paranoid but Im not taking any chances with this one|0 Isnt it curious that the article doesnt mention or dismiss CVKind of reminds you of the celebrities that died of AIDS in the early days Always fell ill by some mysterious disease that later turned out to be the big A|0 It seems many peoples brains just shut off when they see the numbers on this They think a 02 mortality rate is fine but if 50 million young people I plucked that number from the air are infected thats 100000 young people dead And we have NO idea if that 02 figure is only that low due to the young people in serious condition having access to ICU treatment If ICUs are full and hospitals collapse who knows what it does to that figure|0 Thanks mods for allowing this post was knocked off rCoronavirus within 5 mins of posting|1 There is no reason the US couldnt implement policies to maintain a manufacturing economy commensurate to Japan or Germany which do twice as much as a portion of GDP Also if I had to move a factory out of China right now because of disruption due to this outbreak Vietnam or anywhere in South East Asia wouldnt be ideal since the virus is merely a step or two behind in those countries There is no reason to think India will escape this either If one absolutely needed to have a supply chain to weather a prolonged global outbreak youd want to choose a place with developed world caliber health care Taiwan is probably the lowest cost candidate|0 Oh I love Publix subswish they would open a store here on WI|1 As a subscriber myself I hope this becomes a meme template |1 Im sorry It shouldnt be so hard|0 Its better to look at the risk difference by age group instead of comparing lowest risk group 1019 years old vs overall flu risk all age groupsOverall this is currently 34x more fatal than the flu WHO estimated CFR is 34 and flu is 01The worrying part is that without hospitalization soon to be full the fatality will likely jump to 10 estimated ICU cases which would be 100x the flu|0 Unintentionally but worked well |1 This is so fucking awful My heart is broken for our elders|0 Yeah but all the nerds are going to go back home to their parents basements after the convention|1 She said for gov officials to save masks for medical workers last I heard I think op is massively exaggerating|1 Best of luck Hope your Dad is ok|1 I havent encountered them on here yet but I know theyll be more relaxed than fb fb is like a school website you cant get away with anything|1 Hey I heard bat brains made for excellent medicine to deal with a coronavirus is this true s|1 Yes theyre just telling us not to because they apparently source their masks from CVS like the rest of us and dont want us infringing on their supply|1 My Mom may have been exposed to it because heR coworkers husband may have it and I am freaking out My Mom is 71 with Diabetes Asthma and Stage three kidney failure I dont want to lose my Mom |0 Closing state borders would be near impossible most of them have no border checkpoint to speak of and it would be an utter shitshow an accomplish little|1 Yes you are not free to move within it If say you want to visit a friend in your city and police stops you youre in trouble The conference is still ongoing theyre talking about what happens to people that dont follow the rules|1 That isnt needed for the PAPR that he is wearing Its a positive pressure system|1 yeah i just think all this panic comes from the unknown we knew nothing about this virus so i think that itself sows seeds of panic|0 Government of Canada should list this in their total under a separate category It doesnt really play into spread within Canada at the moment but still should be there|0 The simplest explanation is the best Its summer there Thats how nearly every other respiratory virus works too|1 Happens when people with TDS are confronted with anything but Trump hate Maybe get some more diverse friends|0 Quiet place was delayed|0 Yeah Ive never used a cpr mask on a call Only bvm|1 I definitely feel that way a lot Im watching friends and familys work being cut and people being worried they wont be able to pay their bills This was my last semester of college and all my peers who actually wanted to go to commencement will not get that anymore My husband is a truck driver and watching him worry last night before he left about how hes gonna eat any real food if they closed the restaurants at the truck stops he goes to was sad I had to cancel my daughters first birthday party Everything all together has definitely brought my mood way down|0 Anybody that says that is an idiot The data doesnt point to this being the same as the seasonal flu but it also doesnt point it to be an automatic death sentence either|0 Men like him have existed since the beginning of time and there will always be idiots to prey on|1 Well if you have a positive test you are more likely to be granted time off from work to self quarantine without risk of getting fired|1 Its important to state he believes based off scientific information from infectious disease specialists It may not be correct but its not just his gut feeling|1 Schools will be closed at some point Better to do it earlier when fewer kids are infected than later when a greater portion will be contagious|0 Correct but every zombievirus movie starts out this exact way Governments incompetence leads to the spread|0 Its pretty clear from the CDC If your fever is above 1035 ANDOR you are having trouble breathing and not like wheezing but you need oxygen or a ventilator in the next hour|1 Treat it like the flu is still better than the governor of Nebraska telling us to Treat it like a snow storm|1 I agree with you that everyone has a bias and having a bias doesnt automatically equate to dishonesty I just think we could all have a better understandingperspective if we know what the persons bias may be Thats why I asked Thats all|1 I havent see any follow up but according to httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfAsymptomatic infectionhas been reported but the majority of the relatively rare cases who are asymptomatic on the date of identificationreport went on to develop disease The proportion of truly asymptomatic infections is unclearbut appears to be relatively rare and does not appear to be a major driver of transmissionNote here the word truly asymptomatic is likely to refer to the asymptomatic cases that didnt develop any symptoms after a long enough periodAccording to CDC httpswwwcdcgovcselsdsepdss1978lesson1section9htmlhttpswwwcdcgovcselsdsepdss1978lesson1section9htmlAfter the disease process has been triggered pathological changes then occur without the individual being aware of them This stage of subclinical disease extending from the time of exposure to onset of disease symptoms is usually called the incubation period for infectious diseases and the latency period for chronic diseases During this stage disease is said to be asymptomatic no symptoms or inapparent This period may be as brief as seconds for hypersensitivity and toxic reactions to as long as decades for certain chronic diseases|1 Id do this to avoid diareah let alone the diareah that comes with Coronavirus|0 I live in central Alabama and its tornado season Im worried we may be quarantined just in time for a storm system to come through and really make life miserable|0 I think its Hanlons Razor Hes just incompetent busted apart Obamas system because Obama and has zero fucking idea what to do|0 Lol I can share if you want |1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I am sorry to hear that Please consider calling suicide prevention if you really consider this I will not deny these are times that can be scary But there is a way out unfortunately that is only by getting through this Find ways to distract yourself from this situation We are not running out of food nor are we going to die It is not going to last forever There are a lot of people working on a cure vaccines and other tools to help fight this virus We will get out of this and we will be able to continue our daily lives as normal sooner than later|0 Everyday reads more like the title scenes of a disaster movie|0 There is no immunity to it You get it once you can get it again Props to him for being aware and reacting|0 They would feast upon the blood of my enemies Muwhahahaha p|0 It isnt It only becomes an aerosol under certain conditions Its main form of infection is through droplets The study everyone is freaking about Aerosol and surface stability of HCoV19 SARSCoV2 compared to SARSCoV1 is very specific in its wording We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolizationHowever N95 or higherlevel respirators should be used during aerosolgenerating procedures such as sputum induction or open suctioning of airwaysThats not happening in these balconies Stop spreading bullshit youll create more panic source 1httpswwwaappublicationsorgnews20200311coronavirus031120 source 2httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v1|0 Tbh in this case its better that its not our government It means that even big corporations and banks like these are willing to help of their own accord without being forced into it by regulators|1 Wow that is great I was wondering how people in selfquarantine are getting suppliesfood but this seems like a really good solution|1 is awful at opticsAssuming they care about that authoritarian governments usually could care less about optics|1 If the choice is between a flawed device that might let someone live but has risks and a person 100 dying you go with the imperfect option that saves the life|0 yes I know 4chan|1 WTF is a European travel ban going to achieve when the virus is already established in the US|0 The problem for the UK is that if you block it completely it just comes back later in the year when the NHS is too busy with other things eg flu season to deal with it adequately Springsummer is pretty much the best time for this to happen when the NHS has the most capacity to treat people and safely build natural immunity before a vaccine is available next yearEach country has their own different challenges|1 this sub is frequently linked in collapse so theres probably a lot of people overlap|0 The CDCs lack of seriousness and testing Its beginning to look very much staged at this point|0 So I think this virus has really brought some good things to attention If a very deadly virus spreads just like this one has we are FUCKED I mean literally 110 FUUUUCKED We arent prepared to deal with something like this at all and its scary|0 Thank you for thinking of others even though your boss doesnt seem to care Its time we have a social contract so when you stay home sick for the sake of others you are taken care of too Lawrence Gostin director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law put it this wayWe ought to have a social compact If youre sick whether youve got Covid19 or not you should separate yourself from society Mr Gostin said Thats your part of the bargain youre doing it for your neighbors your family and your communityIn exchange he said we as a nation owe you the right to a humane period of separation where we meet your essential needs like medicine health care food and sick pay|0 Nope Wrong again lefty Your fake news media resources are lying to you and as always you eat it right up When will you learnI can tolerate a lot but stupidity and people who choose to spread misinformation in this day and age are real shitstains youre clearly one of the skid marks Im referring to|0 Laws stop crimeWOW|0 Im curious about the mechanism behind people initially testing negative Any virologicallyminded posters able to chime in|0 What good would it do for the nation if the White House went this is as real as it getsYep Here in the UK we had a relatively nuanced press conference where they mentioned the benefits of herd immunity longer term and now a bunch of morons are acting like the governments plan is to sit back and do nothing and hope we all get sick and immune to it eventually As if that plan wouldnt result in vast numbers of dead people and a crippled health service Our response hasnt been especially amazing but its not been too bad compared to other Western countries Yet|1 I am a young person and I am so mortifyingly scared of this its keeping me up|0 The west doesnt have wet markets without any disinfectant The chance of something of the scale of this happening anywhere outside of china is extremely small lol But if it did I think we would have similar measures but with more opennness from the government about what is happening and would not be arresting jounalists that talk about it|1 God bless this man Truly a scholar But obviously hes not in the loop with the authorities who is on damage control mode which means we can trust himUnfortunately the teachers in my area have been issued explicit orders to not wear any masks or ppe and any overtly obvious protection measures aside from washing hands|1 Seriously there is a study about curcumin suppressing cytokines storm in the lungs Let me find itHerehttpiviiarjournalsorgcontent2911fullfbclidIwAR29DfdH1wrrWBIU0Z4WoKgPNqisYvNeDYKIh2aWPO3M60aYz86NIdabz9A|0 Just close the border and stop movement of people with thirdworld countries There is no reason why Europe needs open borders with Middle East Its defacto open border now|0 Shutting down the capitol doesnt mean these clowns cant still work communicate rob and steal|0 weird its not malfunctioning as usual|0 Yep if things get too bad the poor people tend to kill the rich and reset thingsThat said I think these guys probably are doing it because they believe its right and needs to be done|0 Nice thanks|1 Not yet we do not have very very few admitted patients so its not been an issue yet |1 the local yokels in MD is a real scene Frederick people are flipflopping between extreme selfquarantine and walking around downtown like its no big deal|1 Its incredible how much things escalate within a few days Stay safe everyone|1 I have definitely noticed this a change in how news has reported this and a change on this sub to becoming much much quieterI wonder what spurred it considering the core situation hasnt really changed Maybe it is economic pressures pressures from China to change the narrative or maybe like all news this is no longer news and people are moving on|0 Yep lolAnd dont look back or you never make it back Hahaha|1 The media dont seem to be talking about the amount affected though Only the deaths|0 I seriously agree Put the guidelines in our face like theyre commercials for political candidates up for reelection|1 Dude depending on ones device this isnt possible Either copy and paste text block or link archiveis link like a good redditor|1 I respectfully disagree with you Please begin using this now on patients When the hospitals are overwhelmed its far far worse for everyoneThese are not normal times We have enough data to move with it By the time the trials are done it will be too late|0 Absolutely Besides it was all false narrative Masks 100 can limit transmission I wish everyone was wearing them No its not perfect but its better than free balling it and shrugging about it when everyones infected|1 You can thank the corrupt CCP for that |1 My god why are you giving me the wuflu|1 I feel exactly the same Hes really proving himself to be a great leader|1 This also means the number of mortalities could be double|1 Thanks for the rebuke diffusion in a plane is quadratic Right But this is not just diffusion it is growth over diffused living infection agents|1 Even if he tested negative its highly likely he would test positive later The incubation time is long and thats why he shouldve been put on quarantine for 14 days even with a negative test result Expect more people to be in the same situation but not aware enough to self quarantine or self test|0 You do have a choiceTake your life into your own hands If you die what are your kids gonna doFuck the rules I personally would not risk it if I had kids and an underlying health issues|0 Didnt you hear the USA plan of action is thus GO TO WORK GET SICK IF YOU DIE YOU DIE Keep on keeping on|0 The only way they can make sure enough people catch this thing to enable herd immunity is to tell us all not to panic and its just the fluI feel sick This explanation makes sense We have been manipulated and most people have not been given the the ability to make an informed choice|1 I am basically stuck in my room with a sick roommate in a small town that is already overran with confirmed cases Im waiting on a large sum of money from my tax refunds and unemployment but by the time I get it will be too late to do any real prepping x200BOur hospitals are already overwhelmed in parts of Colorado Were in this for a while and im fucked|0 I hope theyre pissed at him|0 If you try to fit the daily rate of growth as a percentage of the previous days cases not the cumulative cases you will not get anything near R2 09|1 I totally agree You should look into getting more stuff than 3 weeks though I would recommend longer Buy stuff youll eat anyway then dont stop stocking up weekly so you dont run out of stores|1 First of all Drlees family get the higher amount compensation from the DONATION of multiple insurance companies And thats because he had more media exposure and people admire and feel sorry for him I am 100 sure other health workers wont get that muchSecondly in China the policy of occupational injury does exist which will give the died hospital workers families more compensation fees But it will 100 lead to an exhausting bureaucratic process for the families to argue if the death could be counted as occupational injury The policy also existed in 2003 but many hospital workers families didnt get the compensation the best case they got 100k but thats rare Idk what insurance system you are referring to maybe thats something new that Ive never heard about|0 Ditto no partner but luckily I have an understanding ex boyfriend whos as fascinated by this outbreak as I am I go over to his shoot the shit and binge on every Corona video on YouTube until we get so depressed that we have to watch funny panda videos to cheer us up|1 Also the Murican way is to give the finger to the WHO and their test kits which are in use in over 100 countries and instead spend extra weeks making your own for 100x the cost and realize the initial batch doesnt even workAmerica is a joke honestly It hates the world and has its head so far up its own ass|0 The unsung heroes of this outbreak|1 Its way worse than that Because the deaths NOW represent infections weeks ago You have to realize that the larger number of undetected cases have been spreading for weeks and then secondary spreaders also so by this point there are weeks worth of additional non hospitalized cases Some back of the envelope math indicates a likelihood of hundreds possibly thousands of non diagnosed community infection vectors currently nationwide in the usa|0 Google AYTU Colorado They have tests that take 210 minutes but cant use them because they are waiting FDA approval I dont understand why its not National news Ive tried posting news links but mods arent letting me|1 Yep decentralized power is Definitely gonna help us here Imagine if we had socialist healthcare We would be forced to only rely on medical care divyed out by government|1 Ahhhhh shit Im going snook fishing one last time Bois|0 To be fair Sunday is usually the biggest grocery shopping day by a good margin|1 LOL|1 The quote youre citing says that of the severe 138 and critical 61 cases about a quarter of those need mechanical ventilation Thats a quarter of that 20 so 5 of the original number The rest the 75 or threequarters of that 20 that it says require oxygen supplementation could get that from something as simple as a nasal cannula depending on the severity of their condition which does not require hospitalization in the ICUit can usually be managed on a regular medsurg or stepdown floor I expect a patient stable enough to be on nasal cannula is unlikely to be kept in an ICU bed for any length of timetheyd get transferred as soon as possible to a loweracuity floor especially in a time of crisis Im less certain about things like nonrebreather masks or high flow nasal cannula That still has the potential to need a lot of ICU beds but not necessarily as many as youre trying to claimYou can absolutely bet that hospitals are having behindthescenes meetings to come up with protocols for how theyre going to handle this every hospital has disaster management plans in place and theyll be working to tweak those to prepare as much as possible for this and be ready to activate those protocols when they start getting cases This includes figuring out ways to expand capacity in the event its needed Some larger hospital systems also have mobile hospital units ready to deploy usually used in cases of weather disasters but I certainly can see how they could be used for this|0 Ehh I was a runner once too There will be other opportunities Please dont be selfish|1 Flu is 01|0 He is respectedhowever he is a bureaucrat as well and well he is working for a government that hasnt exactly been forthright about a great many things To name a couple masks test kits its just a flu it will be over in a month etc etc etc|1 What is wrong with using a bidet or the shower And why does people think that we will run out of toilet paper|0 What annoys me the most is that the people who need to wear masks the most ie people who are unwell and are coughing in public places dont wear them The culture needs to change|0 Source Being following this since it started They are not as efficient as n95 and that is a fact Havent heard of anyone stating they dont work If their logic was based on the fact that the virus remains active for 3 days on any surface and can be transmitted through fecal matter and urine then they are partially correct A surgical mask only makes a mediocre job at best of protecting your airways You will never see a press conference in USA where everyone is wearing surgical masks or any kind of masksYou wear a mask if you work in a hospital environment where you are going to be exposed 247 you wear a mask if you have symptoms and want to protect your family members or household you wear a mask if you tested positive for cov19 and are supposed to quarantine from everyone in you house and avoid all physical contact and any kind of exposure to others|1 Not that bad then|1 Good grief Anyone who has had close contact with a known positive case needs to be isolated symptoms or not|1 TLDR Neither My wife is a Physician Assistant and did a few rotations at our 1000 bed trauma center in psychiatry emergency medicine and pediatric emergency medicine She has a fair amount of experience with medicine and the homeless My concern is that they are not going to be tested while hypochondriacs will and that the state labs will be inundated as this thing picks up speed with many more negative results than finding the positive results If testing is limited there should at least be a way to triage testing I am not advocating for only testing symptomatic patients That seems like closing the barn doors after the horses are out But i think that if the patient is at high risk and does not need hospitalization could we collect the samples and send them home to self quarantine The biggest public health concern is spreading the disease since treatment seems to be symptomatic at this time Unfortunately hospitals are good places to do that So are inner city emergency rooms and homeless populations Get relatively health people out of the hospital so they dont spread it Most people are going to pull through with mind to moderate flu symptoms I have no training in public health I know several people at the CDC here in Atlanta It just seems that epidemiology is what the CDC does if left to do their thing Unfortunately politics is going to get in the way|0 I wouldnt say computers its electronics more generally processors are fabbed in Ireland South Koreea Israel and US in addition to Chinagoogle TSMC and Intel fab process And while China does have all passive components factories pcbs are produced everywhere as are reflow and assembly plants People produce in China because its all there and well interconnected but it can easily be diversified Plastic injection also happens mostly in China most rare earth minerals etc|1 Yes your on reddit|1 How long till we get a summary I had to turn it off when he said we are responding well Couldnt take it anymore|1 Nows the time for him to stop fondling little girls and boys|0 Thank you for an excellent reply but along the lines of the person who wanted to see the CSI version are there any models which show for example the epidemiological consequences of the community spread in WA and what that likely means eg that SEA is a domestic and worldwide airline hub for domestic contagion Maybe I play too much Plague Inc but that should be able to be modeled right The purpose behind this would be as a manufacturing executive to anticipate the timing of interruption in domestic supply chain and impact to workforce I know were well beyond the narrative the executive branch is providing Im looking to look ahead so I can better plan for my folks|1 yeah I was at the bank earlier and they were all convinced it was a liberal conspiracy to scare the stock market|0 Found this pic on the Silverlinks website httpssilverlinksprogrammewordpresscom20141031silverlinksvolunteerslearntokeepcalmandpassitonhttpssilverlinksprogrammewordpresscom20141031silverlinksvolunteerslearntokeepcalmandpassiton It looks like a cracking organisation that will no doubt prove invaluable to many in the coming months Silverlinkssupport older people when theyre facing these tough decisions about their housing and care for future life|1 Thank you from another selfimposes hermit avoiding events we would love to be at for the sake of the health of our community and the country|1 Ok thanks|1 We dont want to talk to them the whole time bc they get tired and my uncle cant even come to the phonebut from what I understand they are mostly just receiving supportive care They are not being given random antivirals bc the docs keep saying they dont know what they are dealing with|1 What kind of work trip To party and relax or to work|1 Its to bad they dont care for us|0 Shortest of the matches straw for some is associated with bad luck though|0 Makes you wonder about political rallies over the next few months Will Trump willingly tell people not to show up at his rallies Especially if the polls are bad|0 No just 20|0 Nothing wrong with that Most people in Oklahoma wouldnt have cared until omg my team is testing positive|1 thanks wheres the source on the 77k just looking through the sources in the sheet and cant find it|1 How disgusting is that They want sick people serving other people food and getting the customers sick too just so they can turn a profit|0 thank god i found the sane people of reddit|1 Wholewheat and 500 pasta gluten free options made from red lentils etc are better pastas tbh|1 No If tests are widely available through a distribution plan you can confirm all your employees are safe People will be happy to work with confirmed negative people|1 its scary how u reffered to it as a war|0 Ohi see Well i tought that knowing that the pope and other catholic figures stopped any kind of events would help them understand how dire the situation was over here Im not a believer but of even the Vatican stopswell that should tell something Please avoid that kind of people in this moment stay safeGood luck to you all|1 Really Im saying THEY might not care I never said I personally didnt Wow sensitive much|0 I havent heard of any major outbreaks hereI believe the media wants to WEAPONIZE this virus to sway the electionMore people die from the common cold daily|0 the whole conference was creepily focused on applauding the private sector for allocating resources for you guessed it profit|1 This doesnt have enough up votes I guess bad news and sensationalism is more important|0 During the flu pandemic of 2009 my employer provided the datacenter with bleach wipes hand sanitizer and face masks We could also work from home My present day employer just put up signs about washing hands Wed have to quarantined to work from home Capitalism marches on to a clueless oblivion|0 Dang so rubbing my hands with Canadian Club isnt good enough|0 Its infuriating that NYT and WSJ have not dropped the paywalls on articles that contain time sensitive critical public health information about this epidemic|0 Ive heard its definitely being moved|1 People should be exercising doing what they can to help their community loved ones Why are you concerned about huge corporate entities making more subscriptions during a time like this |1 Well they just closed all libraries in Louisville KY They seem to be taking things seriously|1 politicians OK What do scientists say|1 Hope this is true|1 Its not the jokes Its the people saying this is not serious the flu is worse mocking those who are taking things seriously and preparing I hope your boyfriend stays healthy |0 YOU GET NOTHING GOOD DAY SIR|0 No they dont Perhaps youre relating this experience to a horrible addict who fucked you over but thats not universal and I dont like it|0 Does he believe this is a punishment from god|0 Lol how the hell do you figure this|0 Does anyone have any predictions on if airline travel or elective surgery will be cancelled I have a surgery out of state next week|0 The hospitals in wuhan are overcrowded and considering this is a respiratory illness china would get hit harder than most places already due to heavy pollution and the very high levels of smoking Chinese people on average probably already have very weak lungs compared to most Its not surprising the death rate there is a lot higher|0 Actually a tonne if not all of the US assets in China got burned not long ago and they had to rebuild from scratchhttpswwwnytimescom20170520worldasiachinaciaspiesespionagehtmlWhich is why its important the CDC gets eyes on|1 The solution would seem to be too foster a meritocracy where competent people are quickly moved up to the top of the chain and less competent people are pushed downward The government needs to be both nimble and meritocratic many parts of government are neither|1 Lol my father and grandparent own like 20 rifles alone My grandpa literally collects them|1 Finally we can embrace our synthetic fabric future uniforms Just as the cheesy Sci Fi of old foretold|1 really would like to see 30k runners and 500k supporters infected|1 What an insightful and clever comment thanks for contributing to the conversation|1 During the first 3 years of Trumps presidency he has slashed the CDCs budget resulting in massive cutbacks for global pandemic preparation x200Bhttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20180212585119417trumpproposesdeepcutsindetectingdiseaseoutbreaksworldwidehttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20180212585119417trumpproposesdeepcutsindetectingdiseaseoutbreaksworldwide|0 Of course they dont care about coffee Being trapped inside all day they are going to do a lot of sleeping|0 For sure Ive actually been a fulltime activist since the start of this admin and my work has largely been about advancing statebased policy solutions that can move ahead regardless of the federal stance to address and help resolve the impacts of some of our greatest global crises In my own work I have helped drive tens of thousands of people to take action on major issues and contributed in my own small way to some state level changes for good Thank you for anything you have done as wellI definitely agree with you that we all have to sound the alarm and I appreciate all of the journalists who have been doing their part in keeping on top of our many challenges|1 There is a Sunnydale up in San Francisco though Not exactly a great neighborhood|0 Known around the world except within the US itself SAD|0 I feel like in the grand scheme of things were really not testing a lot at all right 2403 tests compared to the amount of people who come into Canada every day from the other side of the world it has to be spreading|1 But wasnt that runway purchased to some extent by the right political decisions And havent we seen solutions being developed within that runway periodI genuinely dont want to make this a partisan thing I just think that the things we see being done now to mitigate and keep the USA behind the curve are in fact paying off I will also say that my assumption is that containment was never viable in the USA or anywhere that gets it including South Korea long termBesides buying time even if you waste it to some degree is always helpful in and of itself Time is never fully wasted Time is its own asset if were waiting for the natural end of coldflu season more hospital capacity warmer weather lower R0 or better research from other places hit first|1 HIPAA is pretty tight in your country They wont even allow last names on patient food menus which are sent to the cafeteria|1 This is correct We also are trained how to use them A large portion of the public wears them incorrectly or does not know their purpose In nursing school which was about 8 years ago we were taught that the mask must be work correctly 1 and not reused 2 People dont understand that the pathogen will still be on the outside and potentially cause harm if not removeddisposed of properly So yes something may initially work correctly for people like you and I Because we have had training general public may not fully understand Am I being clearer now|1 Republicans dont mind a recession apparently but they cant make as much money off of a complete collapse|0 Im very immune compromised and Im just hoping that if its not my time ill survive If not then its meant to be Pretty sad I guess but theres literally nothing else I can do|1 This My parents living down south in an active adult community joke about it and parrot back everything Trump says as 100 truth Theyve started sending me pictures of them going out with friends and mocking me for asking them to press the pause button on their social life for a month or two Its unreal|1 No but one of them Hasan Aunt who is a doctor and she left to go to Wuhan two weeks ago They have not heard from her since and are very worried All my other students are just bored out of their minds|0 They were common when I lived in Thailand since you cant drink the tap water Im under the impression the tap water is similarly unsafe in China|1 rPandemicPreps will help you out They have a beginner guide as well|1 A little I sometimes wonder how the restaurant I work at will be affected I live in Myrtle Beach and wonder what happens when Bike week comes and if it will be as busy as usual or that I wont get as many hours as Id likeSometimes I worry that I or my family will get it and one of us wont make it Sometimes I check the news to see whats going on Outside of that though I dont think of it that much except for maybe the way China is handling things and how the WHO seems to have a bit of a corruption problemFor anyone who wants some positives in this doom and gloom stuff herehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvY3eUub1bMk is a video that seems pretty informative|0 So this is what plague inc is like on very easy|1 I know that when I almost died from flu complications when I was pregnant with my second child I went from diagnosed with bronchitis to being septic in under 24 hours so to me it would give an incorrect illusion of safety to say that if I had died it would have been due to lack of treatment because in reality there was barely enough time for my husband to realize what was happening and get me to the hospital thank goodness he randomly took the day offthis girl said that if she or her kids got sick they would wait three or four days and maybe go to the doctor if they didnt get better so I dont think she understands how quickly things can escalate|0 Maybe im misunderstanding but is this not referring to the virus ability to remain in the air during aerosolized treatments Because that Im aware of|1 I had the same thought today I was like holy shit if something named Gilead is producing pharmacology products are we even safe anymore|1 Wow make sure to prayStress from sickness lowers the immune system so just have faith you guys will make it through this|1 How do you know that its being used in Poland Theres a shortage of chloroquine here right now did the government buy all of it|0 And having the Chinese government pissed at you isnt too great for your health I hear|0 I know what a coronavirus is I was an adult last time it happened China is a shit show this time the rest of the world doing well Modern containment takes into account idiots breaking voluntary quarantineThe battle isnt to build a Pacific wall around infected people It isnt 28 days later either The battle is to keep R0 under 10 until the virus burns itself out Basically no on in this sub even understand s what that even means|0 Youre right but there are lots of Israel haters here|0 Welcome to rlatestagecapitalism everybody|1 Sorry yes my post wasnt clear in that respect Both approaches will result in deaths as you sayI suppose the decision for our leaders is what is considered acceptable|1 As in my country if you get COVID19 postive they will bring you to zone special for this And they have standard procedure for body monitoring and medicine usageSpecial zone isolating would prevent you infect more peopleStandard procudure could done by any doctornurse trained and mornitor key parameters of your bodyand the medicine usage should make you not too easy to die|0 This is true and wont stop until WE start slamming politicians heads into a wall Seriously who thought it was a good idea to let China produce our medicine Oh wait a bunch of greed old fucks making a killing off big pharma right I say hang all of them my opinion ofcourse|0 If you make the decision to go after assessing the risk and you get sick or make others sick its your fault Youre not a puppet of others will you make your own choices|0 Yeah anyone holding out hope that the virus is just gonna disappear and die off I got some bad news for you Its spread too far at this point and theres a good chance a large part of the world will get it at some point|0 you mean a friend of a friend who knows someone who works in the government|1 Ive actually had 23 patients over the past few weeks who had a flulike illnesses tested negative for flu or common resp viruses who became unusually ill unusually quickly with bilateral pneumonia At least one died All had co morbid illnesses and ages were 3558 Did not meet the criteria for testing so well likely never know|0 Username checks out by you kind sirmadam|1 Just because its better than China it doesnt mean it can justify whatever it did Unless of course its standard is that low|1 That person claims to be an Australian citizen returning home in which case they are exempt from the ban so it could be a different person glad theyre closing HK off from China though|0 Yeah but humans to prep and run the tests Machines and TIME cant be synthetisized A kit is not just components Its people and facilities that use them too|1 The problem is most billionaires hide behind atrocious tax laws where they wind up paying wildly less percentages in taxes then a common person and thats ridiculous especially when most billionaires are profiting off the destruction of society and family|0 I dont this the data is detailed enough for these charts and if it ever gets that big Im sure people that are better at charts will take over for me|1 Is a protest in front of a WH necessary to get that Orange Moronavirus to get movingNow it seems like tests are severely limited but also only for the rich and elite politicians NBA players actors The guy a few posts above cant even get a test and has an underlying highrisk condition His story will be and is right now multiplied by the thousands|1 I was not speaking literally My point was to apply this to people acceptance that this virus is not going away for years|1 I remember reading about these same results last week Yes The preprint was released somewhere last week it is the same studyhttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2004973 now betterformatted and with some review|1 Very many nice|1 The most convincing evidence to date comes from a 2013 review of 29 randomized trials with more than 11000 participants Researchers found that among extremely active peoplesuch as marathon runners skiers and Army troops doing heavy exercise in subarctic conditionstaking at least 200 mg of vitamin C every day appeared to cut the risk of getting a cold in half But for the general population taking daily vitamin C did not reduce the risk of getting a cold I dont see anywhere where it claims to help boost the immune system It can help cut down on the time youre sick and probably wont do anything bad if you stick to recommended doses but I dont see validation of the common can help your immune system Did I miss it|1 I support strong action but that would result in consequences that could actually be worse that just letting Coronavirus run wild Shutting down the Canadian economy for 6 months would be apocalyptic|0 Yes My hands are raw and bleeding from the sanitizer like so many other baristas Thanks for sharing your experience and I wish you and your partners good health|1 cali is one of the epicenters of the breakout in the states so everyone is in super panic modeeveryday the bans on gatherings are getting smaller and smaller a step closer to full on lock down|1 I think weve given it the Reddit hug of death Im having trouble making an account because it keeps timing out I had to refresh the page several times to even download the client|0 Yes this is the link for all the respective systems including MacOShttpsfoldingathomeorgalternativedownloadshttpsfoldingathomeorgalternativedownloads|1 godspeed brave lads|1 Maybe not on purpose in an evil sense but maybe a lot of governments refuse to close down schools and production to save some ten thousands of mainly older people Seems to be the most likely explanation|0 Yes Have to just drink and revel in public fighting of years past|1 The general premise is no not for fabric masks Respirator cartridges yes they have shelf life|1 What Real friends cant cheat Its gotta be quote friends|1 This is a good theory I like it The government chose to blame the SCJ because they knew if the truth were that it came from a ChineseKorean it would be mayhem Maybe even violence upon those people Also makes the caregivers and health care system look untrustworthy|1 Last flu I had I had to work in the freezing rain at my waterplant What was worse is I had to work a 20 hour shift for three days in a row BruhThe water must flow No water means no civilization|0 if it is man made does that mean that theres a ready made cure|1 Its crazy Lets just hope somehow someway by june or something it hits a decrease and we are able to resume to a semi normal life I also read the more cases and the more ppl survive they gain immunity too it which is good|1 I honestly think it is already everywhere in the US There are probably tons of people not insured riding out mild versions not getting tested or in similar situations as the OP where testing just isnt done Our healthcare system and the amount of people who have to work hourly wages to survive just makes it seemingly impossible to contain at any level hereHad a co worker of mine who seemed to have a very severe cough and other terrible flu like symptoms She came into work with a fever once She has since recovered but mentioned coughing up blood once in this time period Never once went to a hospital She never got tested for even the flu I live in a St Louis MO where there are currently no confirmed cases but I still find it hard to believe there are so many cases in some states and it hasnt spread nearly everywhere at this point|0 Estimating the seriousness means also to consider mortality and when it comes to mortality the numbers are rather mild at the moment Outside of China the virus is not more than a common cold so far People allowed to stay at home lots of them even having no fever at all It will most likely spread but it will EVENTUALLY not be very lethal|0 they get unemployment with no waiting period for those affected|0 Yes but how are you making money from that US government|1 Just to clarify if it were just me Id call into work call my doctor and explain that I want a sick note and stay home for a week and see whether symptoms get worse With children this just gets pretty hard Staying inside with them for weeks isnt easy I also need a doctors note to get paid when I need to take care of a sick child And fever cough things they have all the timeGerman news and politicians are telling us we can get tested if we are sick and that just doesnt seem to be the case|0 Yes But that doesnt mean they will not develop symptoms later|1 I agree There is no evidence that its covid19 related Im hoping we can get more color on this or some other source|1 I would argue the VA is a great example of underfunded Government run healthcare in the US while Tricare is a great example of what a fully funded one can look like Its easy to point at the VA as an example of failure but you have to at least acknowledge people love their Tricare Anecdotal but a lot of military marriages are at least partially tricare motivated|1 Yes the way Italys numbers look is making it seem the mortality rate is a couple of percents higher than 32 Because only the symptomatic are confirmed Italys numbers are terrifying compared to Chinas|0 This was always gonna be the case Its sad but outliers will always crop up|0 You did the right thing My only concern is for your financial well being|1 there was no offerAnd so this story should have died right here|0 I dont think anything will convince them My mom left for Los Angeles today despite me desperately asking her not toBoomers gonna do what they want |1 cwru by any chance I went to a college in university circle and I keep thinking about that area and hoping everyone is well and safe|1 Yep since our government wont do what China and Italy has done unless theres a number that can justify it Once we have exponential increase Id bet Canada will follow Italy and China|1 Do not worry Death is very rare to occur in healthy yound individuals On a personal level it is not a risk|1 Youre a good example of someone who logically may have it but you do not meet the testing criteria So while the CDC dicks around making bad decisions you could be contagious to everyone at home work etc|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yea I mean Im not sure how many people would truly test positive right now that need a test Im sure they exist There was definitely a debacle with the kits I think the next 2 weeks should be very telling in how we can expect this to spread|1 ah thats perfect so at least he wont be cooped up much remind him to make sure he keeps his phone charged and with him at all times so YOU dont freak out if he happens to be doing something without it lol x200BMy sister kinda panicked a bit this morning when she called her BF and he was asleep so he didnt pick up|1 The worst is in China you are forced into quarantine for 14 days And its still faster|0 Yeah except those herbal remedies are refined further in a lab to just their active ingredients and we usually sell the result in pill form Theyre just called medicine then Unlike the ineffective Traditional Chinese Medicine this clearly refers to|1 Yep DC area for sure has at least this many cases we just dont know it yet|1 We did that too Our Prime Minister had to say something for people to stop|0 Actually none of this has anything to do with passive immunity which causes our systems to NOT produce IgG Antibodies These very ill people are most likely producing IgM antibodies which will not provide long term immunity And when they return to a virusladen environment they will become sick again as their passive immunitywill be gone in a few weeks or months|0 You must be retarded|0 In a lot of Germanic languages you can combine as many nouns as you like and have it count as one word|1 Not to mention many Italians smoke and drink into their older yearsAs an example I remember my Grandpa native Italian lost half a lung to cancer and still smoked till he died So if folks his age tend to have that same blas attitude then they obviously wont fair well|0 Questions are best directed to the doctor httpstwittercomnormanswan|1 Oh thank God I was really worried about two fucking people|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 They most be exhausted All the stress long hours and fear It really feels good being able to relax Especially after they saved so many lives|1 Because our society is ultra fucking stupid|0 Det kommer du Ta kontakt med dem redan nu Bttre att vara proaktiv Arbeta ngra dagar Krv sen att f isolera dig nr du fr minsta symptom Med en mindre exponering fr virus r risken fr allvarlig sjukdom mindre Efter du klarat dig igenom smittan kommer du som immun behvas i juniI Kina dog flera sjukskterskor och lkare Antagligen fr att de fortsatte arbeta lngt efter de blivit smittade Hjlp vrden ha en hg tillgng p personal s att ingen ska knna sig tvingad att jobba tills de dr S att vi fr mnga immuna tidigt|1 Try being stuck in small cabin for more than 2 weeksYou will say anything to get outIts not just selfishness Its desperation|0 can u go to ur local press about this so media can finally report on how ethical or unethical this kind of lack of oversight is and do we need to question laws when it comes to this kind of thing|0 Actually Statistically everyone regardless of what you listed is vastly more likely to survive than die|0 Maybe we are adapting already but having a walk sounds nice and sufficient only when you stayed in these past weeks maybe you did To me the early closures full time closures of many places like all parks especially in spring time and inability to travel anywhere in China is a major restrictionAlso Im running out of masks next week and only have two packages of shitty government provided surgical masks as a followup I think its important to realize that this is not over and with the measures in place they can restrict further at any time such as not hand out exit slips at compounds anymore|0 I mean youre not wrong|1 I get you Id rather see the fearmongering and conspiracy stuff because I am capable of filtering it out myself whereas I do not trust the mods not to remove useful information For instance herehttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfd1mwecoronavirusdiariesispendhoursremovingfjefksz is an example of mods being completely incompetent removing real information because they are uneducated about weather in China etc|0 The percentage of residents who are these kids is extremely low Believe it or not but most people here are just like you Dont think you are so great and everyone else is a coddled baby|1 Lol baby food For a one day old What|1 Ive been discussing this with my coworkers who are millennialGen X age and they dont get it A lot of them are plugged in and such but for some reason NOBODY at my company 2025 employees has any idea about the nuances of the subject They just know whatever is on the headlines thats it They dont know stuff like this|0 Supernow where the hell am I gonna find taiper sperm|0 I wish officials and principals would flat out say if you can do it work from home and keep kids home then do it right now for as long as you can I know not everyone can but if families were made to feel like they were making a difference and didnt have administrators saying they have lose their kids spot at a school then that would really help|1 A little bit yes|1 Im really talking about pollution and the like|1 Besides the very rare bargain I find there Gamestop has never been more than window shopping for me anyway|1 I guess were all thinking it a little bit but Jesus just throw it on out there why dont you lmao the world is so fucked |0 Dont forget its also a 2 part sequel with the world too busy making fun of or bashing China and subsequently witness their very own government fumbling when it inevitably makes its way to their country|1 I was sick as hell during that time I had a sore throat and body aches No respiratory problems though|0 I keep thinking its a great thing that the age group hit hardest by Covid19 those aged 60 and older is comprised of a lot of retirees who can stay home for an extended period if necessary|1 Screaming in USA right now|0 They are already doing triage at hospitals If he gets care thats someone else left to die Plus he probably thinks hes young enough to fight it off|0 I think its worth making the distinction that this virus will get worse but as of current really isnt that immediate danger for most peopleAs the weeks develop and the news stories and high level action kicks in more people will be talking about itYou must also take into account that this sub the main sub and chinaflu are kinda like echo chambersMost of the info is sound but in real honesty its so early to make doomsday predictions etcLike you know the death rate isnt accurate as its just deathsinfected In reality its much much lower if you are young and much higher for old people which sucks but does change the tone a bit Another thing is people who get infected and show no symptoms They are not in the stats because we simply dont know how many The guess is quite a lot of people who get infected show no symptoms this encourages spread but if included in the infected stats would drop the death rates significantly|0 What does novel mean|1 Yeah why would we listen to scientist the politicians know all about viruses s|1 I would agree but many here do not|1 This sub is turning into one of those antivaxxer facebook groups My family and friends think Im crazy but Im just doing whats best for my family Yeah you go girl stay firmIf everyone arouns you thinks youre being crazy theres a good chance youre being crazy|1 most alternatives to policy or ideology are better i mean youve seen how fucked the us is hotness isnt my first choice but after copying your friends and parents or voting for the government unless youre fucked in which care which case you vote for the opposition voting for the hotter candidate is a fair choiceits democracy people asking people if theyre fucked so they dont have to tell you leave your ideologies in the library where they belong and fix things that are broken not things that are ideologically unsound|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Everything is farther apart in the US just due to where and when it formed Its about timeliness not access Im not saying youre completely wrong or that the US should or shouldnt have been paying more for public transit People need to admit their bias or show the whole picture There are parts of the US where grocery stores are an hour away from homes let alone an airport Traveling through the US can be related to traveling across the EU Its so much easier to do anything in a smaller size and thats before even mentioning other factors Its a geographic assessment not a bang at one of its allies|0 Wuhan has a large population and last month was Chinese New Year people travel and visit family at that time So you would worry maybe people you know met someone from Wuhan Now some people call it the cunning virus|0 No since they kept reopening the wild markets after each previous outbreak coming from there Its more like criminal negligence|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes hopefully we remember what we want government for Good public services strategic and compassionate policy Unlike the britannia unchained randian mob that have done so much to destroy our social fabric over the last decade Thats the only positive that could come out of such a terrible event|1 Why fuck WHO|0 Kinda unrelated to the virus but I needed reliable sources for a 50 page research paper I used Espcohost and it was great thanks for having a great database|1 So in my little piss poor country Australia not only we have free testing and treatment government which is like your republican party atm has already agreed to 750 cash payment on march 31st to people on social welfare job seekers carers allowance family tax benefit low income families disability support pension youth allowance veterans support commonwealth senior health card holders aged pensioners to help them buy supplies while stimulating the economy Thats just the start|1 send warm thoughts Thats how the bare ass flapping happens|0 Too bad Americans health insurance sucks and people will continue working even if they dont feel sick because they either dont have insurance or sick days |0 Im Romanian Romania is a shit hole yet they closed down 2 Unis for having a single confirmed caseHowest on the other hand fucking told us that if we are absent its an unlawful absence|0 But WHY do you feel your gut was right I mean like what did your gut say that came true yet|1 If the US has a total of 62188 mechanical ventilators httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed21149215 And we have 330M ppl 70 will get it use this no For now is 231 M And if 5 will need it 11550000 means a whole lot of ppl will die basically 115 M unless we slow it down by the non pharmaceutical methods Please somebody tell me I did my math wrongthis is scaring me|0 Are you worried about getting sick or about the situation in generalIf the former figure out what is in your sphere of influence Focus on thatYou cannot really change the big picture but you can help others in your communityIn any case stop reading social media and sensationalist media for a day see if it helps Only check your local news outlets to stay informed edit some background Ive also had problems sleeping or other nervousness related to stuff that is outside of my control Realized I made it A LOT worse by brainwashing myself with reddittwitternews feeds that were just peoples opinions repeat over and over with no actual research of newsworthiness|0 Im in As long as theres no kool aid|0 I think the best thing we can all do is save and archive all the evidence testimony and horrific videos from the past month and a half You can bet theyll start denying the severity of the wuhan flu in china soon enoughThe truth will set us free right Then we have to do our best to keep them from getting away with those like ridiculously obvious lies|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 No I think people will take this seriously when it actually hits their communities and they realize they have to go on lockdown There was a video interviewing Korean young people in Daegeu Almost all of them said they didnt take it seriously until one day they were told they shouldnt even leave their house and that stores were closing left and right Every single one of them said they didnt know anyone who had it but they all were affected by it|0 my grandfather have his own vision of ww2 and its beutifull see the mindwashing they had at the time it was a farmer child soo they didnt see a single battle|1 Is going to become Because of this administration Lol Media spreading propaganda to US citizens was literally legalized by the Obama administration And they were doing it long before that|1 I refresh this sub all day long and havent seen it Im so glad I have now its beautiful|1 I do in fact know a great many AmericansI am not sure what increasing testing has to do with my point|1 Well I actually RTFA and it was talking about someone from National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease not the CDC You also have experts littered through the government You can argue whether Pence is best but the fact is in a crisis you need a coherent message and its the job of the White House to work with experts to make sure they are giving that message not just whatever anybody in the government at any level thinks It would be the same under any administration with this type of situation only less media hate disaster hope for a Democrat|0 More than likely within the week Either way theres no doubt theyll regret being so brave sooner than later|0 Ye 9 quid In Germany its still 4e and they are already great|1 Initial onset was rapid 46 hours with feelings of muscle and body aches fatigue moderately sore throat a light cough and a fever of 1019 The following day it was transient fevers body aches fatigue and deep dry cough I really began to panic when I would lay down at night and noticed my respirations to be shallow I woke up many times throughout the nights to auscultate my lungs and breathing sounds The symptoms finally started to subside at day 5 of onset I controlled the fever and body aches with antipyretics and NSAIDS Tylenol and Ibuprofen It was really really rough|0 This So MuchYou realllly DONT have to come into clinic for your mild viral illness Ill Rx tamiflu with a phone call if you think youve been exposed and symptoms 48hrs If you actually need to see a doctor for your common cold symptoms then youd better be sick enough for the ER and possible admission Otherwise pretty much every medication you need for symptom control is available over the counter Ill even write a work excuse and leave it at the desk mail it out fax it to wherever no problem Its a wicked widespread flu season with added 2019nCoV concernsRegardless healthcare workers will likely be the first to get it and spread it to those most vulnerable Thanks to carelessclueless patients with mild symptoms wanting something for it|0 Im in St Pete Took a drive down to the skyway bridge and the skyway pier both had lots of people and the parking areas by the bridge were all full of people I almost had 0 interaction with anyone but instacart was broken and I had to go pick it up inside Aldi|0 You might want to check if you have sibo|1 Ok fair enough but besides the point of noticing the existence and factual patterns of racism not being some kind of prejudiced action calling people racist is not productive everyone has some level of unconscious bias and the binary racist or not racist doesnt illustrate that We legit all have biases that we sometimes fuck up and act on and denying that is irresponsible|0 When I get home Ill link you a guy who posts nearly everydayedit here it is httpswwwyoutubecomchannelUC6UrRXYAEfd4Y2Ky7QMVwvideos|0 Keep saying not a threat then who is buying up all the face masks Large lots have been sold so means Governments are buying them up so protect yourself|1 Are this few people really aware of the current aid packages working their way through congress The Emergency Declaration The daily Fauci briefings The federal government is not doing nothing but Congress controls the budget not DT I suspect there are few Americans who liked your comment because most Americans are aware of these facts|1 Yeah its wellsourced and doesnt really speculate or editorialize The advice within is wrong because hes citing the same people whove spread misinformation throughout this clusterfuck but I find it hard to blame him for that|0 Sick of the phase fake news|0 You can shrink a tiny amount and bad posture makes it worse but its not that significant|0 I find that community effort on updated information is way better than what the government can whip up I personally use httpscoronavirus1point3acrescomen to follow the latest numbersevents aside from checking this subreddit|1 In contrast in the US purchasing power has been going down for most of the population there is the highest number of prisoners per population size worldwide and according to many indicators drug abuse homelessness the US is in a much worse state than most other developed countries including China x200BMost of what you just posted is flat out wrong US incomes havent been going down in Purchasing power indeed theyve been steadily going up US Income PPPhttpstradingeconomicscomunitedstatesgdppercapitapppx200BYou are correct on the Prisoners per capita|0 Thanks for getting grocery workers sick God bless|1 Keep yourself updated on local news concerning the virus and take all the necessary precautions to be safe What confirmed that things were going south for me were the news of tourists being infected after being in my city schools were still open at that time and there was no sign of an eventual lockdown yet but thats when I started taking action I sent the email that Im talking about in my post for example and warning all the people I know tooSo if I have to give you an advice thats when you should take your kid out of school or when in general new cases not connected to others pop up Good luck to you and thanks for calling me a born leader nobody said that to me before|1 There is no source there thats just some twitter account claiming its fake without evidence at allLook at the video the docs are in haxmat suits Do you think theyd be in hazmat for CO poisoning|0 I think that therere roughly 500000 cases currently and well end up seeing a death rate of about 0203 when this is all over about what we have for seasonal flu0203 is much higher than the seasonal flu 1 BILLION people got Swine Flu in 2009 and 250k500k died That is a death rate of 002 to 005 So this is around 10 times deadlier than the flu which also means 10 times as many hospitalizations The flu already completely overwhelms hospitals For obvious reasons this almost definitely wont become like the flu in terms of how widespread it is But still|0 Lol you know the it is showing the confirmed cases rate rightIf they can only test about 2000 per day of course the percentage will be lower and lower Even if 1 million people get infected they only CONFIRM about 2000Number of infected people isnt the same as number of CONFIRMED cases|0 Welcome to the dystopian future It is coming for all of usCheck out Google Map Timeline If you have a smart phone chances are you will that Google knows where youve been You can even view your approximate footprints on Google map|1 Its always great time for more freedom|1 Better than death but yeah this is a last resort|1 The government cant babysit millions in some case billions of people Maybe better PSA and instructions would solve this but trust me like herding cats is an understatement when it comes to orchestrating the general population in a complex situation|1 Omg someone get ZaDarius Smith to safety We are going all the way next season|1 Thats literally every job Youre not special|0 SPXS is doing well in the last month|1 Oh come on Too low hanging got me negatived|0 Spallanzani is a great Hospital Not many know it but there are really good people working there|1 mild cases includes pneumonia so they do need treatmentthese cases wont overrun ICUs but they will still suck up physicians nurses etcplus the data increasingly shows that young people that end up in critical condition need longer to get there so they look nice and mild for a while then go downhill|0 My team started training management to trust us by working from home when weve been sick or travelling I now get two remote days a week I also made it very clear that commuting sucks for me and it wouldnt be hard for me to find another job when instead I could just work an extra 15 hours for each WFH day so they caved Chrome remote desktop also lets me use my work computer so they can check in to make sure Im working if they really feel the need|1 Thanks for the reply I agree with you 100 just playing devils advocate I agree on the corporate culture thing but TBH the only jobs I have ever had without sick time have been a waiter in a restaurant which has tons of insane issues like paying under minimum wage etc and being a contractor not full time employee Ive worked construction banking and IT all of which have paid sick leave I dont think its as much of a problem with the larger companies it seems to be mostly focused on low skill positions which probably need it the most Not trying to justify not having it My primary concern is just enforcing it without notice which could cause massive problems I do think that its a good idea in the long term but to enact such a thing to counter this virus would probably need government subsidies instead of relying on the employer I just know that many businesses are barely cashflow positive once they pay their workers its not ideal but it happens They make X and spend X with little left over for emergency cushion I just dont want to see peoples anger with large corporations be misguided and send to small businesses and ultimately end up hurting the employees I am also not suggesting that the employees stay home without pay or go to work sick The only option I see is government assistance to either the employee or small business which is also likely to be abused x200BIts a tough situation and the economy is going down I think lots of places are about to be in a world of hurt without this if you add more unexpected expenses it may be the straw the broke the camels back Again not a business owner I work for a large company of 500k employees get unlimited sick time and work from home I understand that I am privileged and I am not trying to make this about screwing the workers but I also dont want to screw the mom and pop businesses either Tax the giant corporations if you need to or do whatever it takes but dont let people go homeless because they wanted to not spread the virus Ultimately there should be a payroll tax or insurance policy that covers this for everyone but I doubt that can be rolled out in the next week|0 Yeah the sensationalized media coverage of swine flu was almost as bad as Corvid I remember my friends family have a end of the world discussionNow note these people are huge anti vaxers Their kids arent really but they are They detested thef act my friend had his kids get shots so they could go to school eyeroll They also told my mom that I have a weakened immune system because I got sepsis from a cat bite cat was old and it had jagged teeth and it drew a lot of blood I also got swine flu I was diagnosed by a doctor A month later when I had recovered I told them about it they said I never had it because I would have died Because I am not as healthy as they are Like mother fucker whatThe only difference between today and then is the fact that social media is much much larger Reddit is a site that the CDC and WHO say is a infodemic of massive proportions that will be addressed after the virus is contained The amount of misinformation here has caused more harm than good I am all about information|0 All the kids nearby should be tested if hes positive|1 The recent exclusion of asymptomatic confirmed cases from the tally of confirmed cases Tweet was mistranslatedmisconstrued Check the flair on the front page of Chinaflu|0 This is truly fantastic to see but my fear is that the people who are tested wont be retested What if they meet an infected person after the test but theyre off the list for testingthey just spread|0 Yes and just give kids free internet They have programs in seattle for super low cost internet and theres always some fund to cover those who cant get that Internet is essential The virus situation is getting worse before it gets better at this time|1 But stay isolated for 14 days that is what some countries do expect from anyone coming from anywhere like Israel and Russia from the main dangerous areas So maybe if there is a tough family situation and you know you canot be of help right on maybe you could postpone traveling as this might stop being so dangerous after two or three weeks And anyway you cannot meet anyone in person for 2 weeks Just needs to be reconsidered in the light of this selfquarantine need after the air travel If I needed to go I would go by train and ferries because they are safer there is wind that cleans the air on trains and ferries I wuld avoind buses and airplanes I am just losing an air ticket due to this in he coming 10 says|0 personnelSorry it was making my eye twitch heh|0 Yaaaa no shit everyone was laughing for 2 months|0 If masks were in abundance perhaps we would have worn them to prevent or reduce asymptomatic transmission|0 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 We already can in the US We value military hardware far above human life if you look at how much we spend on health and human services versus defense spending|1 Did you mean waiving cancellation fees Most have announced they are Domestic and international air traffic is way down and a lot of future flights have been cancelled|0 I mean you probably dont That woman that had to go on a ventilator was an outlier You should be more worried about your parents|0 This guy is so great|1 Yep People celebrating the last night at the bars like fucking idiots This is going to absolutely kick our asses|1 Depends on the light Some can just burn your retinas no biggie|0 Yellow posts arent showing up on mobile Oh well|1 Their government is so fucking stupid Do they not see that this makes them look like even more shit by the rest of world Its not even a culture difference their goverment is so self interested and run by pigs its bizarre What the hell are they trying to do Is there something more to the truth about this virus someone created it|0 I mean as a general rule synthesized active ingredients are a hell of a lot more concentrated than anything you would find in nature so Id argue its a hell of a lot more likely to be effective Though you seemed to have missed my point reddit lemming as you are Ginseng is a herbal remedy that is proven to help with Nausea yet its not called alternative medicine just medicine Because it was researched and they figured out just why it helps and probably made synthesized forms of it as pills too I imagine Im not saying anything that isnt a pill wont help you Im saying anything that wasnt researched and things that are researched and verified as medicine have a tendency to be offered in pill form shouldnt ever be promoted as medicine particularly not disproven bullshit like 99 of what people call herbal remedies|0 Wish Canada would call out the USA as well|1 Thats weird All stores here in NYC are stocked as usual|0 I mean its a simple fact to understand that we have not tested remotely close to enough people so certainly its much more prolific than the true numbers are saying right nowTo give you an idea of just how badly the White House and CDC have botched this thing we have a population multiple times larger than South Korea yet South Korea is testing 10000 people a day and we havent even tested 10000 people total|1 GameStop goes on the list of greedy muthas who need a reckoning after the dust settles|0 Well he can turn in his guard outfit for a a prison jumpsuit|0 Math invented by liberals to blame Trump s|0 Free Antarctica |1 This message brought to you by the CCP China its not so bad|1 Well if ya take those things off in the wrong order then even the best PPE on the planet isnt going to save you from exposure Training for that takes weeks for a reason|1 From my relatives Nanchang 62 handing out 5 masks per person No lockdown Not that theyre going out that often though Weihai Rongcheng 62 situation normal Iirc its like NanchangShanghai 62 can confirm OP|1 I spent a year and the price of a deposit of a house doing a masters degree in Public Health a couple of years back the main thing I got from my year of fulltime studies An obsession with washing my hands after I go to the bathroom and my horror at something called a fecal spray which occurs when you flush the toilet without putting the lid down first|0 Yes I think so|1 Ouch It came out wrong but I get your concern Difficult times indeed|0 Dear Chinese government Stop creating infection in first place|1 Your mocks or predicted grades|0 Man i had foot massage from som grill from thailand and now I have spots on my dick Should I get tested for the contravirus|0 We have no controls Our airport screening is signing a paper stating we do not feel sick and a form saying we havent had contact with an infected patient We have tested uh 3 4 peopleIt definitely is hereNow how fast is it spreading I dont know we do not know how much this virus is affected by weather so I couldnt say Its over 30C where I live but autumn will start soon and flu season will begin|0 How can we know The first people who got through this shit were free of the virus for a month tops We simply dont know|1 I think because of the shady actions by China early on in this pandemic a lot of people assume there is more to the story than theyre letting outHonestly we will never know the truth The CCp spins everything to fit their agenda If you havent heard from some of the other posts Folks from a certain country where this virus originated are now saying that it either started in the US and came to China after the fact Or that the US used germ warfare to create this pandemic People say a lot of shit|0 Panic does no good this is true But neither does suppression of truth They could be honest about whats going on without inciting panic but instead they are working in the shadows only delaying and magnifying a possible panic|1 Think about the worst case scenario in the US Widespread community outbreaks hospital supply chains disrupted infrastructure strained and total lack of preparedness by the people This will kill maybe 1020x as many people as the flu This means in the US about 1 in 100 people will even KNOW someone who succumbs to this disease For the VAST majority of people this will mean minor inconveniences due to local quarantines|0 The US has no allies just interestsDont fall in the trap of the Propaganda machine|0 I die you all die mentality People showing us precisely who they really are Time to pay attention|0 My favourite are all the but the summary of an unpeer reviewed study I read on a thai website said that it was airborne lung AIDS thats now learned how to use the elevatorbut now youre saying its not Yes Thats how science works Science is consensus Peer review is just consensus on results The scientific method is not meant to be scrutinized on a day to day basis Also a fun reminder that its so much harder to fight misinformation once wrong information is out thereIn conclusion hooting apes|0 Original World of Warcraft|1 Im walking around Philly right now Some people were wearing masks at the flower show but otherwise its business as usual Im not noting an increased amount of coughing yetIf someone at that flower show is infected it would be a disaster|0 People do not seem capable of understanding the implications of the fact that people who dont appear sick can still be spreading the virus Everything is saying if you feel sick stay in that is some pretty amateur advice Were the smartest species on earth and we are functioning around the level of 2 year oldsAlso everyone in my state this week was like it is time for everyone to work from homestarting in 2 daysWHY 2 days from now Just to let the virus gain more ground The university next to me had a meeting about why they should close campus and they had that meeting IN PERSON There are children smarter than this|1 When asked I purchase larger than normal quantities of food because I donate to the local food bank program Buy food for your N day supply Write use by date in large marker on each package Shortly before the expiration date of each item donate to food program which will use the food quickly Replace with same item Donate the food to charity shortly before the expiration date If someone asks you why you are buying so much I buy extra to donate to worthwhile charities while looking at them like they are lowlife selfish losers |1 So as an American do I need to travel to Canada to get tested since our dear toddler leader is not letting testing happen|1 Any tips for getting as much refund as I can with cancelling airline and bus tickets|0 True if its infecting a lot more people than the flu it could still overwhelm everything Its just really hard to believe were talking about a 90 rate of asymptomatic carriers I mean thats polio levelOh well I read down the twitter thread more And way down he notes that after digging in more it seems the 90 figure is the number of people who never go to a hospital The paper is still estimating 50 to 75 being asymptomatic|1 Sounds bullshit If it killed so many people then there should be evidence of similar kill ratio in China You dont think its just a flu to the Chinese but killed millions elsewhere right|0 Joke of the DAY|1 Walking pneumonia can be an example of a mild pneumonia Youre not always even diagnosed when you have it since the same antibiotics that youre probably already on for your sinus infection or bronchitis or whatever in most typical cases can help clear it up sorry originally put cold Its not something thats going to hospitalize EVERYONE who gets it Thats not just a downplay phrase for medical people or whatever Walking pneumonia is a nonmedical term for a mild case of pneumonia Technically its called atypical pneumonia and is caused by bacteria or viruses often a common bacterium called Mycoplasma pneumonia Bed rest or hospitalization are usually not needed and symptoms can be mild enough that you can continue about your daily activities hence the term walkinghttpswwwlungorgaboutusblog201702whatiswalkingpneumoniahtml|1 Well it says the guard thought these women were prostitutes and stop the women from going into the campus a fight broke out and the Chinese students heard they killed a Chinese student and riot broke out Although N Kristof also discusses it I generally believe him I do wonder how much of it was a game of telephone|0 So many opportunities for 45 to get infectedwe can only hope|1 You an AmericanIf so you should already have oneLike another respondent said its probably not too latePlease dont be an irresponsible gun owner though If they have a firearms safety class you can take please take it And if you have children get a gun safe there are perfectly good ones you can get for near 100 bucks its like a heavy gun lockbox more than a safe|1 Thanks Would be interesting to compare the number of tests as well for context|1 outsourcing is exponentially more severe in this past 20 years than it ever was in the 80s|0 Im leading an awareness campaign on coronavirus This is incredily helpful Thank you|1 Italy has tested 97000 people Thats why the numbers are highThe US has tested only 6000 peopleIronically living in denial has some benefits|1 Why are all of the comments criticizing China being heavily downvoted|0 This was a very helpful update One of my biggest concerns was whether or not these supermarkets will be getting restocked|1 Landscaper as well Weve had absolutely zero snow in New Jersey this year so our offseason has been nothing but an offseason We have work lined up for the next 6 months Have had two clients proceed to cancel on a 30k and 45k jobs Fortunately I have a non refundable deposit clause in my contracts so its not a total loss However this has only been going on in the US for about a month and Im already starting to see it effect my business Its to a small extent However thats 75k in projects out the door Heres to hoping for the best success with you and your business during these times|1 I work for stop and shop I see the same thing people seem to not be taking anything seriously all the older regulars are there no one is keeping their distance I see many coughing and not attempting to cover it So people are panic shopping aggressively but not following any of the recommendations to slow the thing that caused the panic I dont get it|0 Check out this article httpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthtestinginsightidUSKBN1ZQ21KSixtynine yearold Xu Enen who has had fever and a lung infection since Jan 8 was rejected by six hospitals in Wuhan for testing as they said they had ran out of beds his daughter told Reuters Xus symptoms have worsened lately and he is starting to have breathing difficultiesHe was finally admitted on Jan 22 to queue for the test at Hankou hospital in Wuhan after his daughter publicized his case on Weibo|0 There are plenty of mental illnesses that can severly hinder immunity and health bulimia or anorexia for example|0 Yup dont fucking travel now I had to travel due to a death in my family this weekend I was paranoid at every gas station stop Turns out when talking to my cousin I hadnt seen in a long time he decided to inform me that a friend of a friend of his is a suspected coronavirus case and she was tested recently I am unsure of her results but now my paranoia has skyrocketed|0 Yes please do that would be interesting Any idea how you got it|1 Seems terrible to me|0 honestly the experts have been giving false andor contradictory advices and opinions more than once during this goddamn epidemicsee for exampe use of masks safe interpersonal distance time the virus lives on surfacesApart from this rant of minecan you elaborate or give a source for Your immunity would probably last a couple of years at least Im honestly interested to know more|1 Cheers|1 Oh they dont pay them enough to afford to see doctors silly Problem solved s|0 Did he die of the virus|0 I did some quick math and regression analysis and assuming this exponential growth continues all of Italy will be infected in a little over 40 days|0 Should show her those leaked videos from China Then what is going on in Italy with empty shelves at their supermarkets This coronavirus is no joke and contagious as fuck If quarantine happens in your city you cant go in or out Better to stock up And when panic finally occurs there will be empty shelves|0 You are absolutely rightThe issue is availability In the senate hearing today it was confirmed by Dr Schuchat that the US has 35M masks in the national stockpile This is 10 of the 35B they estimate they need for Healthcare workers alone in case of a severe pandemicThe number of masks in the stockpile for the general public Zero|0 Well so far for a lot of people it is dissapearing so theres that You guys keep forgetting that unless youre 60 its like a flu or cold and it runs its courseI just saw the mortality rates posted its like 2 for ages 140 it goes up to like 15 in the 5060 range I think or around there and jumps up to like 17 for 70|1 This is what I tried to prepare forworst case scenario in case the hospitals are overwhelmed and turning people away like Italy How pneumonia is treatedhttpswwwverywellhealthcompneumoniatreatments770681 Nursing 101 Caring for your sick loved ones at homehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf513zmnursing101caringforyourlovedonesathomeutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare I bought expectorant a nebulizer saline and something called Asthmanefrina bronchodilator for temporary relief of shortness of breath Theres also an OTC product called primatene mist which is aerosolized epinephrine inhaler Kind of like an EpiPen for your lungs This would not totally save you and may actually make things worse if used too much but my hope is that some of these things might help loosen the mucous so it could be coughed out and also provide emergency airway dilation to buy some time to maybe hopefully get to a hospital My brother has a CPAP machine which if we have 0 options could be used to force air into a sick person although that may just make it harder to cough up so Im not sure this would help I realize this sounds batshit crazy but I have an immune deficient premature baby with asthma at home my son has a comorbid condition and my father has diabetes and heart problems and is 65 I see whats happening in Italy how people over 65 or even young people with comorbidities arent even being assessed or considered for treatment because others who have better odds of surviving take priority and it scares me to think that could happen here it could happen to my family|1 Iranians are a fatalistic bunch|0 Thank you for what you do This is the start as people panicking because we are receiving info they trust People will become dangerous because they will not be making rational choices|0 That would make sense though since I believe they didnt do testing as a census of everyone At least thats what I recall from the news was they were prioritizing testing to people with symptoms It would make sense youd see noticeable symptoms in older patients if they tend to have a worse course of disease|0 Yeah I get that Here in Norway its 3 years of higher education and then 3 more at the police academy Im not sure what to call it|1 This is a pretty funny request given that people often tell celebrities to shut up and just do their job|1 Shes positive|1 Yeah in that regard youre right of course what I meant is the severity and lethality rate|1 FYI hand washing is a good practice but its not going to stop th virus just maybe slow it down|1 Those mother fuckers|0 These assholes said we were knocking on th e door of pandemic a month ago before cases exploded outside China and South Korea|0 Ramen and Spam for life baby|0 I am a US student studying in Paris currently What the fuck do I do|0 Were they infected by touching each other or through simple breathing|0 Stay safe friend I feel like I have a band around my chest Same|1 Ive worn a mask When its on I dont touch my face Experts agree It makes YOU want to touch your face more For MOST it acts as reminder even if non functional for example why do you think people also wear surgical masks that dont protect at a high level|0 I think you guys are over estimating our biological capabilities Bioengineering is in its infancy We would need AI tools and ideally quantum computing to be able to control any of the metrics youre discussing like a long incubation period If we modify a gene in a virus we really have no idea what will happen until we observe it in action At best we could say SARS spread via the ACE2 receptor so if we gave a different virus that same capability then it could spread as well So the best way to create a world ending virus would not be to engineer it because our engineering skills suck at this point but instead we would take hundred or even thousands of viruses from all different species and give each of them this ACE 2 receptor or other ways of binding that we have discovered in other viruses like influenza But in that case dropping a thousand viruses on a population would likely have a very high mortality which would cause all the viruses to die out quickly That would be a better example of bio warfare|1 Figure 1 under results check cases pre Dec 11thHoly shit The first cases they found were in fact NOT linked to the wet market Good eye Toc|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 So what Im wondering is 1 did he test negative because the virus was eradicated or had his body just done its best and 2 did he test positive because it wasnt eradicated and the virus found the opportunity to reinfect or did he get infected when he came into contact with someone on his way home|1 Thats true We all need to be optimistic and realistic as well And its good to keep ourselves updated about all the circumstances I am sharing an article Its good enough to make everyone realize that playing your part will definitely make a difference Heres the articlehttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca|1 I find nurses to be the worst to be honest Bitter ignorant bunch|0 Is it an essential travel If not then be a responsible adult and stay home and reduce the exposure in all communities you may be in Seriously it is not a joke|0 Ah yes dusty2229 knows more about how to deal with this than the Chief Medical OfficersAs far as I can tell from watching the whole of the select committee the government are doing exactly as advised by the experts|1 I hope My grandpa has pneumonia after flu like symptoms and they wouldnt test him|1 Is Trump going to try and pretend this isnt happening here That could be catastrophic Everyone who trusts him wont be careful or even prepared to be home for a few days much less quarantined I feel like throwing up Im so upsetAt this point Im beginning to think maybe theres a 666 mark somewhere on Trump Who knew the antichrist could be a moron|0 You need to consider the increase relative to those already infected In terms of relative numbers adding 1700 to 10000 is better than adding 1600 to 9000 so it is slowing down Hope that all of Italy was included in todays 2000|1 So whats breaking quarantine then if you can leave Honest question|1 God damn it now Im breathing manually|0 So about 7 private healthcare approved test kits then|1 Yes My thought as well Then I saw the movie parasite where the were cleaning the streets with those steamy bleach stuff as well So it seems like something they are doing on a regular basis|1 air up to 3 hours post aerosolization while remaining alive on plastic and other surfaces for up to three daysWhere does it say 9 days|1 You would not be surprised In overworked situations humans make pretty dumb mistakes and take shortcuts|0 Even if you dont have a lot of money a large bag of rice a large bag of beans and some canned veggies are pretty cheap and will at least keep you fed and nourished for a good long while Its also something you can make a lot of at once so if you do end up getting sick you can make a week or even a months supply if you have the freezer space so you dont have to worry about cooking while youre sickAlso buying water by the gallon is usually cheaper than buying packs of bottles If youre stocking for the long haul buying by the gallon or bigger containers if they have them is usually cheapest|1 Look into how its been handled in Norway No one beats the incompetence shown over here Absolute tragedy Most of our cases comes from a doctor who was in Italy He felt sick and asked to be tested but the hospital said that there is no reason to test him even though hes been in north Italy After a few days and hundreds of patients later it turns out he does in fact have the corona virus Now its exploding and our health care system is refusing to test almost anyone except if you have been to italy or china We are basically becoming sick and it started from our doctors in our biggest hospital Complete idiots|0 She is in the at risk group employees have a duty of care Especially If her asthma is truly severe tell her to go to HR and ask they are going to account for her disability given the government says its not safe for her to have regular contact with people at the moment How is the school going to make allowance on a temporary basis to account for her disability She should surgest that she is prepared to provide resources from home and mark work from home I would hope any HR person would get the message and let her work from home The reason she is at risk is directly related to her disability and as an employer they have to make reasonable adjustments like not putting her at significant risk from a virus that has a risk of hospitalizing her or worse|0 Dude youre not wrong with this precise descriptionButThat doesnt mean the corollary to that is that you can take the number of dead v recovered and divide them and then think anyone anywhere ever is going to take you seriouslyThe entire point is that we wont know the actual CFR until the pandemic stops so they use a more complicated formula to try to estimate what that number might be which is why it continuously moves up or down But to do the math like you did is weapons grade stupid Like 3rd grade math level understanding|0 Yes you are very smart Good for you Obviously hand washing isnt a certainty but its a good habit that will help This shit isnt going away anytime soon so we can live like hermits in our house for the next 6 months or they can go to school Im choosing school You do what you want for your family|1 Lol He just tweeted just the flu bro I wonder how hes going to double down|1 The Wikipedia numbers are right my mistake I thought the numbers were way higher I mixed up the China and Japan cremation practices|0 Considering the Grand Canyon is like a 4 hour drive I mean reasonable Thats a longass time|1 Where does it say that anywhere Everything Ive read has said they have no tested males and just looked at how the virus could effects these things That does not mean it will or that its common|0 My guess is this virus escaped a lab like the multiple other times its happenedhttpssciencesciencemagorgcontent3045671659|1 Short term memory blinders and anything else to keep the cognitive dissonance from ruining our social media induced ego trip|0 Damn he did not like the question about the picture of him with an infected person|0 Fauci gets to be fully forthright right now because hes testifying in front of Congress and Trump isnt leaning over his shoulderWhenever hes speaking at a press conference with Pence or especially Trump present you can see him trying to walk a fine line between conveying accurate information but not angering the administration since that information is always bad news Bad news the administration wants to suppress at the expense of public awareness because politicsI will give credit to Fauci however as he doesnt kowtow like the CDC director and the Secretary of HHS Alex Azar just says what TrumpPence want him to say at this pointYou can tell he wants to be even more forthright but he also knows losing his job would mean Trump would appoint a toady in his place and wed all be worse off|0 So many Americans are ignorant of the situation in part because of the news and in part because the CDC and federal government have done their best to keep us uniformed I am beyond mad I saw Dr Faucispelling on three different news shows walking back the idea that it will come here There is a special place in hell for those who put money over lives like they all are doingEditgrammar|0 I hope she doesnt become a zombie|1 Unless you are working with someone with the disease youre risk is extremely low Its wasting a valuable resource|0 I dont think thats true most governments are finally starting to take this very seriously My home area is now in a shelter in place and barsrestaurants are closed until 47|0 ThEy sIck ANd oLd sO iT dOnt MAtTeR|0 According to most of the data so far in about 8 days well know how bad its really getting in those 17 countries|0 I mean thats an absolute fact that we are overpopulated and the best thing you can do by far and away for the environment is to not have children Next to that is stop eating beefLet me just be clear those are both absolute facts Perhaps you are not aware but our climate systems are collapsing around us at a far quicker pace than most people realizeIts not anti natalist its realistic necessary and pragmatic I would love to have kidsAbsolute climate collapse and Earth Systems collapse is such a broad topic that you are not going to find a lot of cohesive and wideranging information on it because it spans so many specialtiesqFor me to strongest evidence of obvious collapse is the absolute disappearnce of the vast majority of the insects on the planet We have lost something like 70 of them since 1972And bird populations are collapsing Fisheries and harbors are collapsing worldwide do a quick Google for Alaskan ocean acidification or fishery collapse acidificationor something along those lines Also the two largest carbon sinks on the planet are both having an issue right now the second largest the Amazon is being absolutely destroyed The largest carbon sink of all the oceans are showing preliminary evidence that they are completely saturated with carbon now meaning a much more significant percentile of our emissions will be directly in the air and soil and also the carbon that currently exists in the ocean will make the oceans far more acidic in short timeThen you have the unprecedented melt rate of the polar ice caps The pools are warming six times faster than the rest of the planet and it is quickly showing There are multiple feedback loops connected to the poles that most people are not aware of two i know of are exceedingly important the loss of ice Albedo effect creating a feedback loop of more warmth and the unknown effect that hundreds of billions of gallons of fresh water being dumped into the salt water oceans will have Honestly this is not even a small fraction of the issues we are currently having We are losing topsoil far far quicker than we can replace it Were losing clean water as well And a thousand other things None of this even touches on Plastics microplastics forevef chemicals etc ad infinitum To me understanding collapse is about garnering information from very many different sources that all subtly point in the same direction even if they dont realize thats where theyre pointing It took me several years to really develop a good mental picture of what is occurring and every single day that I interact with my fellow Americans I am more and more convinced that collapse is absolutely imminent and coming sooner than wed probably like to think|1 Spanish national health system would never turn her away You should get insurance or if shes already got residence permit she can apply for the public health system right away If youre on the system which I assume you are she can be simply attached to youDont worry youll be safe Stay home and stay strong|1 Im curious what your models and simulations might hint about the following questions regarding Switzerland itself1 Do you think the new measures taken by the government in Switzerland today are sufficient to contain the virus enough to not overwhelm the Swiss hospitals as is the case in Italy The newspapers are rather pessimistic about Swiss health care capacity especially in intensive care2 Do you think theres a danger of food and supply shortage in Switzerland from the way the working demographic is affected3 Will the situation in Switzerland likely be better or worse than in the adjacent country Germany and is there a likelihood that they will shut the border as they did with ItalyThe last question corresponds very much to the last A in AMA Thank you very much already for your time and also your important research|1 Here are 400httpsamericanindependentcomhousepassedbillsmitchmcconnellobstruct Stop spreading misinformation|0 I know Im just saying he doesnt need to worry about his kids when it comes to sickness from the virus|1 Serious was anyone on oxygen that does not mean they were all on ventilators|0 Counts across the board save for China are accelerating In many cases doubling over the course of one day In Irans case just wow We had a good 56 day stretch of deceleration before it started popping up across the globe in various clusters I dont see how we dont see exponential growth from here on out Decelerating numbers were driven by containment but it looks like the dam has burst|1 What is more important you have 1 in 5 chances of requiring hospitalisation Influenza 1 in 500 What will happen when hospitals are over capacity and you cannot get appropriate medical care when needed Chances of dying will rapidly grow Its already started in Korea I explained it in my yesterdays newsletter httpscovid19briefingsubstackcompcovid19briefingfirstedition|1 how could you honestly believe this nonsenselook at the numbers something like 67 of the human population is currently living in some sort of quarantine its much worse that SARS and its not just going to fizzle out on its ownx200BThe reason SARS did was because it was much easier to detect and catch the number of infections were low and so it was contained This cat is out of the bag|1 How long for A month 2month 3 months What happens to the economy then Peoples jobs business go under and then what Theres no virus but homelessness goes up people cant afford foodIts not as simple as just closing our borders|0 Why do people leave Shanghai during the lunar new year|0 you sure its not gonna be found and deleted there or something|1 Theyre lying It really is that simple|0 No thats the Iranian version of the protocol|0 Theyll be losing a bit more than that Id wager|0 Im sure there will be extensive monitoring The last thing the CDC wants is what is happening in China to be happening on US soils Either way ignoring US citizens in Wuhan is not the way to go You may not care but the importance of how a government treat its citizens in situations like this actually matters|1 This aint no chicken pox party|1 Its hard to gets masks in China still Where I live we were getting some from Korea before their outbreak but now not as much|0 Well theres the subreddit where people are legit freaking outrCoronavirusThat that place freaks me out more than the virus itself|0 We have a support subreddit set up for this rCOVID19support can help with anxiety and fears surrounding this situation Please feel free to use this resource|1 Ahhh yes Go Brexit so last years topic |1 The VP and president still should NOT be that close lmao|1 Shutting down everything for a month would result in an 8 reduction to the GDP hardly depression territory|0 Do you think youre conflating a few different issues hereWhy would economics suddenly become irrelevant just because of circumstances Circumstances happen within the framework of economics Just because theres a crisis doesnt mean supply demand resource allocation suddenly disappear Im not sure what youre getting at|0 He thinks the virus is fake so he wont care|0 The whole point is that the government doesnt do it for charity They do it do avoid any financial crisis If it didnt impact the overall economy then they wouldnt do it either And again its a loan not a donation|0 THIS Thank you|1 This is precisely why I made a Reddit page specifically for personal experiences only rrCvirusLocalReports I tried to post it on here to get the word out but the Op who made this page said it was a bad idea and deleted the post which I agreed was fine since no users had yet joinedpostedBut hearing this post what do you guys think I should continue growing the community and see if people start posting their experiences with the virus|0 is this effective at all|1 Good grief I am praying that this thing doesnt get that bad I cant imagine what hospital workers are going thru right now I used to work in a hospital we said had 800 beds Now actually having those 800 beds filled would be a nightmare Having even 700 beds filled was awful Not enough drugs not enough protective equipment Just an all around nightmare Its about to be the era of not enough My heart goes out to all of them|1 Fuck Jeff Bozo|0 Im pretty certain that this guys inbox is already bursting with emails from willing investors The only thing that will delay production would be a backlog of certification delays at the Ministry|1 This is absolutely crazy and has to stopThis is how I feel about the panic people like you are spreadingIts far far more dangerous and harmfulSo stop|0 I fucking hate the rcoronavirus sub because it is full of fucking Chinese shills trying to shift the blame and praise ChinaI understand that the US government has been extremely incompetent but the amount of Chinese shilling is fucking awful China so good China the best superpower etc But if you criticize them you get fucking banned for being political you are not even allowed to give medical advice I heard|0 He should be charged with attempted murder|0 Vitamin D and Zinc are also great for prevention and immune health|1 We think were better then China but holy shit its just a repeat of denial until its way to late|0 Absolutely agree that airlines dont deserve a bailout Nationalize them make sure workers get paid unemployment is a fraction of what their actual wages wouldve been Airlines have made sure shareholders have been paid using share buybacks and dividends for years during the good timesSeveral EU airlines have already failed 1 2 and Italy nationalized theirs today 3 The rest will start to arrive at insolvency shortly I know folks at United shit looks grim1 httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusnorwegianairnorwegianairtocancel85offlightsandlayoff90ofstaffidUSKBN2132F72 httpsegyptindependentcomukairlineflybedealtfinalblowbycoronavirus3 httpswwwreuterscomarticleusitalyalitaliaitalytotakefullcontrolofalitaliaasvirushitssaleplanreportidUSKBN2120PH|1 Can all of the iTs JuSt A fLu people be the ones that actually get this Thatd be great|1 Im unfortunately pessimistic I think itll run its course I think were beyond stopping it now Minimise you risk of contracting it by staying indoors|0 Does that fundamentally change the virus to the point where antibodies would no longer matchEdit Just saw this on nextstrainorgAll samples are still closely related with few mutations relative to a common ancestor suggesting a shared common ancestor some time in NovDec 2019|1 The alternative was to close the store and people not getting their prescriptionsShould have picked that then all the people not getting prescriptions would be lighting a fire under corporate feet|0 Well this is the same guy that said it was under control 1010 best president ever well be close to zero soon|1 Americans are very emotional people imo|1 He was humiliated and fired Being petty feels good He deserves to feel vindicated|0 He really didnt look that good in the rose garden new conference Everyone there really should get tested|0 Lots of cruise ships stop in Alaska|0 Its already too late People dont wear PPE and community spreading already started a while ago All you need is pray for now|1 Nice Disney World Infections for the whole family|1 1Yeah he gets pretty low with personal attacks he probably doesnt actually believe that though2 His words Climate change is very important to me Ive done many environmental impact statements in my life and I believe very strongly in very very crystal clear clean water and clean airAlso Im uninformed on his stance on the coronavirus what has he done on that thats unscientific|1 They wont be saying that when they are on lockdown or separated from their families for quarantines or facing major life disruptions Some people have no critical thinking skills its unreal|0 So kinda bullshit do to the inaction of the Japanese Little too late If anything I would sue the Japanese government for not taking appropriate measures to protect the passengers on the ship Not worrying about panic to their population They screwed this up big time|0 Ill ates e is a Not there either|0 Thanks to people like him we can beat any crisis We need to stop the greed will eat his pizzas forever|0 Another one of these insane posts I see|0 I just finished 12 miles on a ISX never blinked God Bless|0 1 SARS was under reported by the Chinese government 1 We are now able to rapidly test and monitor so reporting is likely up and confirmatory testing might be more readily and rapidly available 1 Its early and the data sets arent good yet We dont know actual prevalence of the disease1 People being tested are the ones likely presenting for treatment thus likely are people who are more ill and also possibly more at risk for death it complications the young it very old|0 Besides which the CDC should have had the procedures in place for years even decades updated with lessons learned from SARS MERS H1N1 but its like their first time FUBAR|0 Thats totally falseTheyre transferring people from the most crowded hospitals definitely not Turin so that they can have more beds for people with coronavirus and theyre doing this now in preparation of the next two weeks so even now theyre not fullAt the moment in Italy we only have like 1000 people in intensive care|1 Sadly hilarioustrue|0 In some weird way released software bugs is a pretty applicable albeit cavalier comparison Yes you compound the situation by not being thorough with response Where the comparison breaks is in software you just throw bodies at it with 247 churns until business risk is mitigated I guess my hope is that is what we are doing with vaccinesantiviralsAnd no not Microsoft thank goodness |1 Yes might even be longer|1 Our population aint no spring chickens|1 Never will happen in California Over here Disneyland is still packed with two hour long wait for rides Its like Californians think they are immune Everyone I spoke with told me its just the flu|1 This is my fear I think if it does clear up this summer people should be cautiously optimistic be be aware of the possibility|1 You have a source for that Not trying to be confrontational Just think this would be important data|0 Comunque il vero rischio legato ai numeri se si ammalano 1000000 di italiani li abbiamo 200000 posti letto respiratori ecc Io dico di no|0 Nothing more nauseating than someone claiming that their society of choice cares more about each other for xy or z religious political or cultural reason If its something you feel the need to flex over my guess is your personal empathy tank is quite low|1 Is it still the same issue as before often times the test shows negative until someone is showing symptoms or there are a number of false negatives|0 She literally was picking it up because she was having to work from home now because of the virus she wasnt expecting to be blocked in and not allowed to leave her own complex|0 Im not quite Chad Hazmat but I did wear a mask to Costco Had someone point and laugh I survived |1 Denvers parade is allsystems go as well|1 True if possible Or quit the damned job because this is a different level of real|1 Isnt that true with just about every negative thing in life cancer homelessness poverty debt death of a loved one fire flood etc|0 I didnt realize it has grown so much I remember first finding it when it was just 60k and we were talking about how the cases in China would be more than the number of subscribers at some point|1 This is my 17monthold sons strategy and he seems extremely happy about it Hes a peekaboo enthusiast|1 God I hope those arnt used toothpicks|1 Eurgh I know youre right but I just dont want to face reality I guess staying in Australia makes the most sense as we are already here Just a shame as I really wanted to be back home in AprilMay just not now|0 What did you do to help|1 Wow wrong people to be mad at How about corporations and the 1 instead How do you say fucking morons in Italian|0 It only hastened the inevitable They got bailed out not long ago and it was discovered that they were in debt to their eyeballs had taken out loans against all their assets and planes They would have gone by the end of the year|0 I will never forget how coldsfluetc used to spread like wildfire at my former place of employment In a state government building Management encouraged praised employees to come in when they were sick because it showed dedication We all had PTO however people would collect their days come in while they were sick I never participated because when I am sick I am down for the count I will never forget the time I needed to take a day off for bronchitis and a sinus infection I have chronic health issues and my supervisor at the time sat me down in a closed door meeting to tell me that another employee managed to make it in with pneumonia therefore why couldnt I just tough it out Clearly I just wasnt dedicated enough Fuck them|1 Love from China Italy govt took great courage and strength to fight the virus It costs a lot but will be worth it Hope other countries take measures soon Its not just a matter of some countries We will get through this|1 How would it be in their best interests to fire you if they are desperately understaffed Even if you only show up for 3 days a week thats better than having you 0 days a week Its not like they can just replace you|1 httpswwwzdfdenachrichtenheutejournalhttpswwwzdfdenachrichtenheutejournal 2700 for anyone interested|1 Technically yeah but not all of them are in sweden|1 yeah one good thing is timing of this outbreak winter is fading off from most places and in 1 month time temperature will get bit warmer with full blown summer season ahead|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our 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politics Lol just kidding|0 South Korea Taiwan are basically Japan and China if they never had some shitty bureaucratic attitude|1 hey I think they actually draw blood and check for the presence of the specific antibodies It has to be above a certain level to be considered to have built up some kind of response|1 Ok good then Id expect it should be apparent when cluster outbreaks are happening in areas even when there are no test kits available My other thought was maybe were not hearing about any cases because of Hippa Im Canadian so not familiar with Hippa at all but wondering if there is a privacy reason for no numbers been announced|0 coronavirus fatality rate could be very lowI wouldnt call 1 very lowhttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollege2019nCoVseverity10022020pdfSummary We present case fatality ratio CFR estimates for three strata of 2019nCoV infections For cases detected in Hubei we estimate the CFR to be 18 95 credible interval 1181 For cases detected in travellers outside mainland China we obtain central estimates of the CFR in the range 1256 depending on the statistical methods with substantial uncertainty around these central values Using estimates of underlying infection prevalence in Wuhan at the end of January derived from testing of passengers on repatriation flights to Japan and Germany we adjusted the estimates of CFR from either the early epidemic in Hubei Province or from cases reported outside mainland China to obtain estimates of the overall CFR in all infections asymptomatic or symptomatic of approximately 1 95 confidence interval 054 It is important to note that the differences in these estimates does not reflect underlying differences in disease severity between countries CFRs seen in individual countries will vary depending on the sensitivity of different surveillance systems to detect cases of differing levels of severity and the clinical care offered to severely ill cases All CFR estimates should be viewed cautiously at the current time as the sensitivity of surveillance of both deaths and cases in mainland China is unclear Furthermore all estimates rely on limited data on the typical time intervals from symptom onset to death or recovery which influences the CFR estimates|0 All my friends into sports on Facebook are nothing but angry now that the nba is suspended Fuck the safety of people and their families I wanna see a ball go intoa hoop|0 Ah the reverse tithe Sweetest of all the economic adjustments as the rabidly religious are finally forced to relinquish their wealth back to civil society Id rather it werent the US medical industry that received said wealth but its better than nothing|1 Not good and it can linger in the air for 3 hours|0 Official Death The OPs argument seems to be that the Wuhan government has been lying about the severity and trying to cover it up for a month If so likely various other have died but the cause of death not reported as thisChinese regional governments have history of cover ups with SARS and tons of other none medical issues so its not unheard of|0 I was increasingly getting anxious by following this far too much Ive done my best to step away a bit and its helped keep me from being too anxiousIm hoping this is calming down at the very least Im very happy to see the recovered numbers go up every dayBut it is weird to have no one else really worried about it while Im somewhat worried|1 Wow|1 Aw dang thanks for the update I quit after 10 years And it was actually about former smokers not current for some reason Probably fake too tho|0 I take 2000 iu daily Is that a good dosage for Dr Campbells suggestion I watched more of itits very good information Ill watch it all|1 Sorry it was sarcasm It would matter to everyone else but not to HIM|0 Right And Spanish Flu pandemic had waves and the second was the most deadly but that was probably unrelated to the virus Anyway this sort of confusion by laymen like me is how myths like this are born |1 No one has been cured Wdym|0 And yet teachers at the schools are still required to go into the empty schools to work What the fuck is that|0 Great Now I have to sit inside and look at picture books|1 The Safe move is allocating time and resources based on rational decision making|1 Im still here Its a good day to die eh |0 You just perfectly summed up how half of Reddit actually think this will play out|1 That doesnt make them not Asian There a very many Australian US and Canadian citizens that are of Asian decent Edit Im an idiot cant finish a thought|0 Thanks|1 If you just wear a mask people will give you space They will think you are sick since we are only supposed to wear them if we are sick|0 our president couldve banned travel from china YEARS ago but he didntIs this a joke Why would you ban travel from China years ago|0 All valid points thank you for the response|1 He can piss off to MaraLago or jail next January it wouldnt bother me either way but we really dont need to lose him now That would be epically disastrous for our society|0 Its more than a little bit frightening|0 I would love to see the statistics for deaths due to viral pneumonia compared to say last year|1 According to Michael Osterholm we are fucked since he didnt need to touch anyone since it can be caught if you shared the same air|0 If you want to talk about exponential growth lets talk about the cold Everyone gets a cold during the Winter Ahee Leading Harvard scientist says most cases will be probably be a mild If he said its going to kill millions it would be trending on Reddit lmao|1 Scary|0 Such a sad state of affairs lolHealthcare is so shit in this country that we need billionaires to help pay for the sick in times of crisisWhat a fuckin joke|0 That is way less than the stock market lost in just the last 6 days|0 I mean obviously lots of countries are closing their borders atm Its the smart decision|1 Yeah crazy|0 I think one large factor is the people This isnt first epidemic in SKorea so people took it seriously from day 1 and the whole mask and sanitize is pretty regularEven as the cult almost fucked it all up rest of the population really pulled together Same as China Taiwan Singapore and other successesSomething that is in no form happening in the West Kissing and hugging still going strong in Europe|1 Yes exactly South Korea Singapore even Australia doing much better And the best UK update Ive seen came from the Scottish govt estimating at least 250k beds being neededMake of that what you will|1 Agree with uborisbemyguide on different shapes helping a lot You can also look at ColorBrewerhttpscolorbrewer2orgtypesequentialschemeBuGnn3 to find color palettes that are good for color blind viewers and you can check your final products on a program like Coblishttpswwwcolorblindnesscomcobliscolorblindnesssimulator where you can see how the image will look with different forms of color blindness|1 For the night is dark and full of terrors|0 If its an Scurve yes peak will happen in 45 days but day 46 is the same as day 44It will take 80 days before yearly burnout|1 The house Congress does not beg the White House for money Only the house Congress can appropriate money If the house wanted to increase funding for the CDC the could have done it 2 years ago or last year or last month Instead they have been focused on other priorities like impeachmentThe CDC budget is 7 billion They have plenty of money If they need more money a supplemental authorization will be made|1 Normally that stuff is wiped clean with a dirty rag including in restaurants|0 Not supported by evidence but I think this virus has been spreading under our noses for longer than we are being told getting passed off as a winter bug|0 Meanwhile the governor is tweeting about going out to eat at a packed restaurant God bless America|1 Well its a start|1 Because its easy to pass off as random chanceI dont believe this is biological terrorism in the slightest this is just a freak occurence that got a running start on us due to criminal stupidity and unwillingness to do the hard thing|0 Because theyre morons Thats why We live in Idiocracy Maybe if the authorities told them over and over and over again how to wear masks properly they would But most will not figure it out their damn selves because frankly theyre just too damn stupid This situation has made me really fed up with how dumb most people are|0 This is gonna be better than twitch Someone said hes not gonna use a teleprompterexamplehttpstwittercomrgoodlawstatus1238541284266201090|1 yup There are 62188 ventilators in the US Eighty percent are already being used so that leaves about 12438 available The population of the US is 327200000 If half of the population gets coronavirus a conservative estimate that would be 163600000 people sick And if 4 of them need a ventilator that would be 6544000 people needing a ventilator And we have 12438 ventilators available Now everyone wont get sick at once of course so lets spread out those ventilator needing people over a period of 12 months best case scenario we would still need 545333 ventilators at one time And we have 12438 available at any one time Many people will die who might be saved if they could get ventilator treatment|0 Fortunately its a less populous area which makes transmission more difficult|0 Not a medical doctor here but it takes about 5 days to show symptoms and then about a week or so before things get worse More info herehttpsdoiorg101056NEJMoa2002032httpsdoiorg101056NEJMoa2002032|0 I dont disagree but probably the overriding sentiment at this point is that were grateful for being Singaporeans Not a lot of room for hubris just simple sheer relief that were here and literally not anywhere else in the world right now|1 What age range are you in if you dont mind me askingEven if your husband is on board its going to be hard for him to negotiate his way out of work if hes a teacher especially if the government arnt taking a more serious line From last I checked the first school closures for example were taken on the headteachers initiative not from any advice from gov or PHEYou have a better chance especially if you can perform your duties from homeJust make sure all your concerns are documented in emails or letters Dont just do it verbally|1 We couldnt source any at all for ourselves so were just making our own with Aloe vera gel and 90 isopropyl alcohol Its better than not having any at all in my personal opinion Plus there isnt a mad dash at the stores around here for plain old Aloe vera gel|1 Ah thank you |1 No tests no panic|0 bearofHtown your reminder arrives in 2 weeks on 20200314 024252Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20200314 024252Zreminderide13efe9e831e455a8aeeed844b41600fsubredditChinaFlu Next time remember to use my default callsign kminder rChinaFlu ImpercentsurethiswillhappenrChinaFlucommentsfaxktkimpercentsurethiswillhappenfj2i0c2context3 kminder 2 weeks1 OTHER CLICKED THIS 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today at a hospital because I dont have a fever Ive only had 1 fever in 37 years Im scared I tested negative for strep and flu They dont know what I have|0 The economy will absolutely bounce back in timeOf course it willIt bounced back after the great depression right|1 That Italians have poor hygiene standards is a funny one Italian hygienic standards tend to be quite high even among other European nationsI mean they have a bathroom sink specifically designed to clean their backsides|1 They are doing surveillance testing in some hospitals I know this as my hospital is one of them Anyone who gets a flu swab in these hospitals is also tested for COVID19|0 The have to operate at small margins because there is a shitton of competition And that competition made and makes flights rather cheap for you and me operating at small margins is not always a free choice a company makes Many business are operating at small margins and all of us benefit from it|1 Lets be real poor people know it cost them over a grand to be tested Thats without including the ambulance bill America is too expensive when it comes to medical shit Korea on the other hand is the polar opposite They charge 160 USD and if you are in fact a confirmed they will refund you the money|0 Also belts They get very dirty|0 Tom Hanks is a national treasure how dare u|1 Without causing panic the world is going to shut down for 23 weeks|1 BC Canada Population 5 million has tested more people for COVID19 than the entire United Stateshttpsglobalnewscanews6610416bccovid19testingmorethanunitedstatespremier|1 Not a fake interpreter but she could have done better|1 Imagine they used a deep fake for an address Could be in the realm of possibility|0 Can also go down to less than 2 cents per hour and start positively looking like a pyramidal salesperson|1 Im going to guess 69niceEdit Not sure why the downvotes but the persons username has 51 in it which I assume is 1951 and would make them 69|0 Getting sick is getting sick whether you have a test result or not wouldnt more people be going to hospitals I hemorrhaged for 45 days before going to an ER regarding my miscarriage I sat in a waiting for 6 hours then got some fluids a transvag ultrasound no pain meds and was discharged It cost 1800 Americans dont go to the doctor because we cant afford it Italians do go to the doctor because it doesnt bankrupt them|0 Exactly its only old people that are affected cool bro Ill remember that when my elderly parents are suffering with viral pneumonia with an over burdened healthcare system|0 This passed the house not senate This is dead on arrival in the senate if McConnell even lets it go to a vote|0 No A libertarian Trojan horse|0 I can assure you that people care about SARS and the common coldIts also bold of you to assume this is the worst coronavirus we will ever experience Youre making the Great War mistake|1 the CDC just saved millions of men from a fate worse than chinese coronavirus|0 Everything in good measure Right now were in so much extreme in terms of how much consumption we do Literally any decrease of livestock will have huge positive effects Bring back seasonal products and stop the fake abundance bullshit would be a huge start both a win for our moral less certain less depression and of course environment|1 At least in summer we wont have flu and cold So if you show sign of infection you know its covid 19He |1 fuck the who they can just go away pls|0 Where exactly are you getting that a third prison at Maralago tested positive I dont see any reference to that Closest thing is a report of an Italian official testing positive but it doesnt say that person was there|1 This is a good map because it separates the cruise ship from Japans numbers httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6httpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 Downvoting me feels better than not buying an iPhone|1 Thats what I mean My dog hates the backyard walks r life for her That does makes sense so if u stay within city limits and avoid ppl should be fine right|0 No data sources My sister cancer care nurse who is now rotating in and out of ICUER and my good friend ER nurse have said they have seen zero indication of age discrimination when it comes to who ends up in the ERICU The age discrimination shows up when accounting for who walks out There was a twitter post on this subreddit the other day of a Seattle physician that backed this up also Im sure there has to be some bias but it isnt what a lot of young people are expecting People seem to be confusing fatality rates with the youre going to be sick as fck rates|0 Yeah thatll do it And then instead of paying the people to actually work for them instead they end up spending billions on government contracts for the private sector people who they lost So they dont actually save any money in the end|0 Wow A lot of comments which means what I wrote doesnt matter This post drew my attention because for the last two weeks Ive tuned reddit out but for the previous month I did exactly what the OP posted Puts head in sand|1 I had a weird feeling this fall and started stocking up on freeze dried items and beans and rice and such Glad I did|1 Lol you know there are some just shitty ass tennants out there giving their landlord nightmares|0 This thing is just too damn perfect a virus in terms of killing ability to be natural in my humble opinionAnd the Chinese forceful and dramatic response is what makes it suspiciously more probable to be man made|0 These arent examples of meritocracy theyre examples of standardized testing and nobody here has said to abolish standardized testing Youre thrusting at shadows here|0 My dad who is over 60 working as an MD in a hospital in fucking Florida which is going to be hit like Italy in weeks|1 My uncle in New York died suddenly on Saturday Theyre doing an autopsy|0 Its hard to smoke while wearing a mask|0 For profit healthcare at work|1 The tinfoil hat in me makes me think that maybe its been making the rounds for a while and thats why they dont want to test Average age of death in Italy is 81 right now I feel like it could look like a bad year for flu in north american nursing homes|0 Good info on how the disease spreads and risk factors not great on public health measures|0 If you pay cash you will get sick The bags everything is being touched by hands touching cash These food service places are trying to simply minimize the risk of spreading it to you while pretty much acknowledging because they cant afford it they will almost certainly get it servicing people who can afford to get it and dont care or are being safe These are the lower class people that get crapped on a lot remember that they arent lower class they are Americans If they all stayed home no one would stock the shelves or serve those tacos and still they think of everyone else Thats what Americans look like|0 Yeah no ill just be homeless|0 With foresight like that Id sack the entire boardIf they cant see foresee demand rising now of all times and prepare theyre as useless as tits on a bull|0 They were bought during the latest bird flu and the hospital accepted them of course theyre medical grade|0 put a disclaimer on the chart since many people that are watching this are not preficient with charts and they might get confused and scared|0 We are not ok this is not okMaybe I should move over to your side of the pond P|0 Given that the Schengen countries have open borders you have to ban all Schengen countries Which is a lot of Europe Singapore survives on trade and has no farming very little manufacturing We cant afford to ban that many countries wed literally run out of food and supplies Bans are hence really selective and only when necessary|0 I presume hes not even tested because the authority didnt seem to pay any attention to him For him to be tested well have to wait for him to show symptoms and for him to present himself to a doc To be fair theres no suggestion that hes infected But still who knows where he had been|0 ELI5 please|1 Fair enough Just trying to get the word out I was laughed at in a PTA meetings suggesting schools close proactively These were supposed to be educators|1 A lot of football stars have spoken out about it which makes me happy Ronaldo and Messi are of course the two biggest and both have spoken out Theres also a challenge started by large football social media brand 433 about washing your hands and doing tricks inside featuring some players like Juventus De Ligt Think its because so many notable people in football has caught it|1 Until its necessary when you possibly have three weeks of asymptomatic transmission and suddenly everyone is sick If you are able to avoid crowds and it isnt going to ruin your life maybe not the worst idea If you need medical care or groceries deal with it and wash your hands a lot|1 not true bro it is not illegal what the heck|1 Because we elected a man who had multiple failed business and bankruptcies Of course hes gonna fuck up anything like this It doesnt take rocket science to see what was beginning in China and start getting our house in order Nope Twitter in chief would rather air his grievances about what someone said or did that he didnt like Poor baby|0 A lot of grocery stores dont allow tipping Just do it without the managers watching They can be real ass holes about it I know from experience One of the best things to do is formally compliment an employee to a store manager or through phoneemail to the corporate offices It helps with asking for a raise and also they usually give a small gift card or free sandwich to the employee|1 Whats ridiculous about getting stranded people back provided they are tested and kept in isolation upon landing|0 Imagine taking every precaution possible but in the end you get infected because some ignorant pissflaps sent their kids to Italy|0 Just about as smart as his climate change policies|1 Thats what heroes do Good for you Denmark|1 Im really sorry that youre dealing with this Its easy to let our minds drift to worst case scenarios when there are so many unknowns All one can do is follow precautions prepare and hope for the best My thoughts are with you|1 Hongkonger here the Chinese are using the same trick in HK at 2003 the SARS period we must warn the world not to trust CHINA|0 I agree with the coordination aspect of this although I wasnt implying podunk towns with a general hospital Wouldnt the Cleveland Clinic be equipped for this They have world class healthcare and Cleveland is less dense than LAX|1 Ill do my best sadly i dont speak english very well so I can only write basic sentencesThere arent many news here in Italy about Coronavirus just standard coverage of the eventsThere were statements made by Istituto Superiore di Sanit its like the US CDC about general hygiene rules to follow washing you hands etc ISS also said not to wear sanitary masks unless you are ill but the prices skyrocketed and many stores dont sell them anymore|1 Not necessarily Low lymphocyte counts is expected after a lot of infections including the common cold Its pretty normal as a result of almost any infection To which degree Im not sure though|1 oh boy like its a death sentence or what i suggest everyone hold their horses yes this is a bad pandemic because it may interrupt health care and other services severely leading tonsecondary deaths too but being infected doesnt mean you are instantly doomed|0 Because hes quite literally wrongTheres literally only been one study done showing that its plausible it could be truly airborne and that study was done by Princeton and the National Institute of Health and it has not been peerreviewed yetOr are you calling Marc lipstitch the director of communicable disease Dynamics and epidemiology at Harvard University and Yale Medical one of the most prestigious medical schools on the planet wrong when they say there has been zero evidence before this study of true airborne transmission|1 Does mike have as much good vibes as he does hummus To get a name like Mike the hummus guy he must eatstock a lot of hummus Does he deal it yet|1 Huge Jack man|1 The full contextCan I be tested for COVID19 at an EvergreenHealth Urgent Care or Clinic In partnership with the CDC we have updated our screening guidelines for COVID19 As of March 3 2020 we have halted performing nasopharyngeal testing in our outpatient clinics including all five urgent care locationsHeres whyThe CDC has determined that COVID19 is now endemic meaning that the virus is now considered to be regularly found in our region amongst our population Previously only individuals who had previously known risk factors including history of travel exposure to a confirmed case were considered high risk for acquiring the disease|1 He said he didnt care whether he was liked or notonly that he was respected|1 You think that creating and deploying 160 million tests by Monday is going to be more cost effective than subsidizing an insurance benefit that already existsYou didnt actually say pay salaries|1 I was going to make my own and of course Im out of isopropyl alcohol and its sold out all around me I like to add a few drops of lavender essential oil so it smells nice too|1 Its a joke The online screening for 111 isnt interested unless youve been travelling or you know that youve been in contact with someone from an affected areaThis thing can survive on surfaces for days think about hand rails on the tube and buses ATMs etc But right now you can legitimately catch it and theyll fob you off because you dont fit this imaginary profile of someone at risk|0 It would be racist to ask questions to newly arrived Chinese visitors|0 and the rate of petty crimes went through the roof|0 This is a good update thanks Just one question when get packages from the outside how can you make sure they are not contaminated|1 I think a temporary disaster relief stipend is more than due here and Im really hoping theyll come through with it I worry people will start getting desperate without income and well see an uptick in home invasionsburglaries|0 Yeah how will we deal with people not dying from opiates|1 herehttpscdnvoxcdncomuploadschorusassetfile19629965ScreenShot20200126at105217AMpng it is from the Lancet study However as one of the scientists says Theres two possibilities if they did not get infected at the market They got infected from an animal that had the virus in a different market or any place where there was an infected animal Second they got infected from another person so there was already persontoperson spreadThere was also phylogenetic analysis that suggested all the sequenced viruses so far have a common ancestor that existed as early as October 1httpswwwsciencemagorgnews202001wuhanseafoodmarketmaynotbesourcenovelvirusspreadinggloballyspread of the virus in Wuhan was likely happening months sooner as early as October Daniel Lucey an infectious diseases physician and adjunct professor of infectious diseases at Georgetown University Medical Center told Vox It also indicates that there may have been multiple places in the food supply chain where people were exposed to animals with the virus he addedSide note heres a graph show that admissions for severe Coronavirus cases skew younger than you might have thoughthttpscdnvoxcdncomuploadschorusassetfile19630038ScreenShot20200126at120922PMpngTaken from this article covering the Lancet study in Vox its actually pretty decenthttpswwwvoxcom202012721082354coronavirusoutbreakwuhanchinaearlyonlancet|1 The faster you talk with your employees about it the faster youll be able to make the best choice With only 10 employees itd be easy to get to know everyones individual feelings Some people may be fine with working through this since your job wouldnt directly expose them Some people may live with immunocompromised family members and want the chance to stay home more and avoid any risk|1 Ok|1 I just read it somewhere on this subreddit but specifically about wuhan Ill try to retrieve itEdithttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2002032And httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620301835fulltext|0 Yeah you stay home in autoisolation even you are a suspected case If you developed severe symptoms in that case you are getting tested and hospitalized|0 Many many things cause shadows and abnormalities on imaging It was used in China to speed up getting people into treatment a test is always needed to know for sure what virus you have Imaging can give a clue but a test is needed eventually Around 80 percent or so of COVID19 infections show up on imaging so that 20 percent can only be tested forEdit to add I was off 5httpswwwajronlineorgdoifull102214AJR2022969 85 show abnormalities in imaging|1 Do you see the rectangle under his commentCan you see Chinas reaction when other countries Lockdown ChinaNo it is not wrong no one think it is wrong but China|1 Schools are a breeding ground for viruses like this|1 Id say both likely have more than they realize as well as the US who test less than 100 a day Russia while having closed borders and flights from China still have them open to any other country with the virus Iran is the prime candidate for transmission via this method and well most likely see a rise there if theyre reporting correctlyIndia has the most crowded public transportation combined with a lack of hygiene all it would take is one cluster if there already hasnt been one under the governments nose|1 Ive known for a while that the US would need to lockdown to stop this but America would not shut down short travel to care for a relative Probably the Italy police stop approach of you better have a damn a damn good reason to be out alright stay safe That would be enough if all social gatherings were banned for a bit dont need to go full WuhanEdit interstate travel might be another story in certain areas They really should isolate the Bay Area and PNW we can handle it|1 That was a whole new sentence His current approach is to pray away the virus as is evident from photo taken yesterday Yes that was his current approach yesterday Also yes he does not believe in science Have you ever researched anything about him his time as governor and the disaster of it The pray away the gay stance he has Dinosaurs arent real ETC ETC The man is a loon|1 Im curious as to how much at CT scan runs I just read that those are far more accurate at a diagnosis than the tests they are currently doing and at a much earlier stage of infection I would hope they would be able to share what to look for on said CT scanshttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases202002200226151951htmhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases202002200226151951htm|1 I cant remember at the top of my head but in medical terms if you stopped smoking for the last year maybe 6 months again cant remember for sure you are considered a non smokerNot sure if they accounted for previous history of smoking|0 Mortality isnt number of dead from the total infected People dont get infected and die in a second You need to see the people infected today follow them until the disease runs its course and see if they died or recoveredLets say the disease has a 1 week time for recovery since detection then see how many cases were confirmed 7 days ago from my memory around 300 cases in which case mortality is over 30|0 Well China said the same thing to Italy|1 This And only his administration for selling their soul to to the party instead of the people|1 You can call a doctor and have it faxed calling is free|1 Yes because a 1919 outbreak is totally comparable to the modern environment Its not like there have been massive medical breakthroughs and increases in hygiene|1 Why would they care the stay Theyll say theyre not covering it They make up any rules they can Dealing with insurance is fighting a 200 billion company|1 If the flights are not refundable anyway there is no point in worrying about it right nowThings are likely to be very different in May could be better could be worse but no one can predict the futureI would certainly not spend any more money on activities or booking anything for it right now though The UK is not in a great place our numbers are starting to go up rapidly and the only reason were not included in the USA ban is that we chose not to be part of the schengen movement when we originally joined the EU not because it is safer here than many of the countries that have now been restrictedYou may be legally entitled to some changes if the UK does get banned though so worth holding out for that|0 the chinese have been burning dead bodies in fields if you believe the 1500 number the chinese government gives out you are a sheep my estimate is up to about 30000 dead|0 be prepared to help others dont be scared|1 Search Quarantine on Wikipedia maybeIf you barely know the true logistics of the virus would you risk introducing a highly risky sample the highest concentration of infected outside of China into the most populated city on earth|0 Thats because most patients display symptoms 3 4 days after theyve caught it thats the period of time where they are passing it on by breathing on someone or getting virons on something that people then touch which infects them because they are touching their facesOnce patients show symptoms within seven days it will be obvious whether it is Covid19 that they have or not and if they DO have it either they will be on the mend by then or se out of luckI have no time for the politics of today understatement of the century but really theres just no way to know in advance what will work best there are so many variables Hindsight eventually might be perfect|1 This woman has her head on straight|1 Prosecute|0 Yeah but word needs to get out so people stop donating to them|0 Thank you Its people like you and all of us working together to take the first preventative measures to slow down this spread and hopefully try to put the genie back in the bottle albeit it being an absolute long shot now What people dont understand is the government isnt going to be helping us individually now We all need to chip in and contribute via not getting ourselves infected increasing the mutation probability of the virus and then infecting others around us It calls upon everyone working to put this fire out The heroes wont just be the front line medical workers It falls upon everyone to act in concert to relieve the pressure off the medical system so they can do their work in saving the critical cases The last thing the public needs to be doing is adding onto that pressure|1 The Iranian cabinet didnt seem to have cared all that much|1 Have had this conversation with far too many on FB in the past few days Im over it people just want to put their head in the sand and poke fun at the fact that the flu has killed more so far this year ignoring the fact that this virus has spread from one single location to worldwide in a matter of 3 months despite best attempts to contain itIm going to have to selfquarantine from FB|0 Italy has instructed staff not to accept patients over 80 for comparison|0 I dont follow mainstream media Being informed isnt the same as fear|0 Okay so the one whos filming it didnt raise the problem with security in the train station|1 Wtf mate|0 Whats the date I want to add it to my calendar|1 Let them go bankrupt nationalize whats left|0 You need to make a decision now if you want to come back to the UK I dont know your circumstances but your window of opportunity is closing fast I dont want to scare you but this is a pandemic Borders are closing Where do you feel most comfortable being for the next threefive months|1 Bird flu 2 jackdaw boogaloo|0 Bankruptcy for getting sick Perfect system no issues s|0 Well atleast Trump can say he made America great again If by great he means Great Depression|1 We likely wont see exponential growth but logistic growth instead The first half looks just like exponential growth although the second half begins to flatten out and hit a maxHerehttpsiimgurcomnKyg7xWpng1 is a plot of confirmed cases for a few countries on a logarithmic scale In this you can see that if the number of confirmed cases continues to grow as it has we will be multiplying our number of cases by 10 every 1213 days|0 This is funny at first glance but then realise these people do this out of desperation and fear|0 What steps have they taken to implement social distancing Have they banned large gatherings They havent done it in Colorado despite its positive cases are growing each day|0 Instructions unclear So dont shit on a fax machine|1 Do they really have to shut down places for people to stay homeI have my whole family at home and we wouldnt go anywhere if not necessary Except for walks in the empty woods|0 Hey I work for Fedex as a driver Theres been literally minimal discussion in our meeting every single morning Ive been very minimally receiving signatures from businesses and customers which Im required to do but because of this virus I dont care and type the customers names in Its truly sad and Im disgusted at the company in which I work for|0 I think its to late to go even there friend|1 Sorry I thought I was quite clear about why I thought the way I did when I said about taking precautions and reducing physical contact with those at risk Try rereading it againI have family members who guess what are taking precautions because they are in the at risk bracket They are self isolating minimising physical contact so on so fourth So what benefit is it really for them to close everything down when they have already closed themselves off|1 Imagine the virus arriving at your door hospitals overwhelmed and then family members get sick and someone has to take care of themIf I then get to choose between a FFP2 mask from the hardware store and a rain coat and a military NBC suit with respirator its very clear what I prefer|1 No hand sanitizer within 50 miles of Portland|1 Yay|1 China recently released data showing outside of Hubai CER was 04 and inside 07 sorry was in an old thread dont have the direct source The 07 demonstrates the surge of patients|0 049 Please let me try I believe this Pestilence can be cured while preserving higher mental functions|1 C and STL Ok then no thanks D|1 My friend is quarantined on the cruise Shit is scary|0 The silver lining will be less social security to pay out less people on Medicare and Medicaid less homelessness less overcrowded prisons and institutions Not my silver lining This includes most of the people I love But it makes sense Why would the government go to great lengths to stop this They will clearly will benefit in the long run|1 and again there was no need for insults I never said anything about working yourself to death and even in Italy right now factories are still open and workers are expected to come in if healthy and not ordered to quarantine I didnt say anything about the ethics or morals of this I just explained what I saw as a question about the situationI hope you stay healthy|0 I can understand itWe face the same problem at the beginning of Wuhan that nursedoctors did not have enough kn95 masks and thats one of the reasons why theres about 3000 doctors and nurses who were infectedSo as I mentioned before please save kn95 masks for your doctors and nurses For the general public the use of disposable surgical masks for protection is sufficient In China We even donated our kn95 to the hospital and the gov give 35 disposable surgical masks back for each kn95 mask cause disposable surgical masks is easier to produceabout 10 times yields than KN95 I m not quite surePlease try your best to protect your doctors and nurses|1 Lets not forget that if you listened to this place this Virus is basically the same as the bubonic plage The misinformation and idioticness on here is unfathomably bad|0 I think that all websites have periods of lag and constant updating Its likely based off of legit news reports from State media Not positive though Just found it to be more consistent than other sites|0 It will be the first time in 24 years the Dropkick Murphys arent playing on St Paddys Day But isnt this article about how they will be playing on St Paddys day|0 Trust me I can relate Before Italy went into lockdown it was just news from a distant land on the TV Theres zero reason to panic but plenty of reasons to be cautious and act responsibly|0 We live less than a mile from Kennestone and my GF runs by it everyday She said the traffic into the hospital is insane right now Could be people with minor symptoms dreaming out though|0 Good for him|1 This makes me think that the US is way underreportedThats the implication all of the providers MDPANP I work with took from the situation right at the startIm a bit optimistic that its not wildly underreported currently if there were massive unidentified outbreaks wed see more clusters of ICU patients I believe But I have pretty high confidence that its quite underreported Most places here are relatively early on in terms of spread Takes time to spread incubate manifest as an illness and in some cases progress These sorts of things follow a curve ramping up cases and critical cases Some physicians im listening to believe most areas of the US that will end up experiencing an outbreak are in the earlier stages of this now|1 You mean well I apologize Unfortunately that stuff will pale compared to the monumental losses Disney will take every business will take This is a a chair to the face for all the service companies in America or wherever this is hitting Very little will help if you cant deliver it to peoples houses and theme parks sadly cant come to you|0 Agree completely An emergency hospital should be set up in a temporary and somewhat remote location and hospital security triage nurses should be screening patients attempting to physically enter emergency rooms Covid symptoms Not coming innot with all these other sick people here|0 I havent played Plague Inc Board game mobile console Personally I love the boardgame Pandemic I do not care for the real thing However the game taught me that its almost impossible to win if you focus all your efforts on trying to eliminate one disease If you do that the others tend to explode So its mostly a game of outbreak management unless you get real lucky and can cheaply sunset a disease|1 Well find out soon as the rest of China slowly opens up for business again|1 Oh god this is uncertain times for everyone I wish them luck|1 Keeping alive sure is more important than a job|1 The gfycat link at the top next to the posters username will bring you to the video with sound|1 Here is police operating drones in Italy looks like its filming people on balconies and in the street httpsimgurcomgallery3keFosF|1 People here are not panicking but they cut down the consumption of chicken Chicken prices in the south where I live fell by more than 50 Not much covid news in the media Summer is already upon us and the day time temperatures reached 37 Celsius|0 Another question to ask about the hypertension is a risk factor thing we know that risk increases with age but so does hypertension how much is that relationship truly due to hypertension and how much is an age effect Havent seen a study that separates the two please link if you know of any relevant publications|1 No Im not and I dont think we are either|0 Except rural players still cant reach stopsgyms from their homes so we still cant really benefit from this much|0 Discussed Not disgusted|1 They need to send a memo do Nunes lol|1 I definitely will I totally understand wanting to be on the front lines I actually applied for a step down ICU position just in case but am still wavering about just saying I can only work remotely because I provide some minimal care for my grandma with memory loss and am so afraid to hurt her Im really glad to know Im not alone in all my thoughts Good luck and best of health to you|1 Ok Ilol look Its been like 34 weeks aho|1 He is recovering well and almost healthy again He was admitted to the hospital on monday and its wednesday now so that is very good news imo|1 I like my coworkers but if i catch the virus the only thing thatll keep me back from working is if i collapse Im not risking homelessness Im on a tight budget and cannot afford taking more than a few days off I know for a fact that there are people worse off than I am this country is fucked|0 If I was in your shoes Id have quit as soon as I could based on the severity of the outbreak up there Glad you are looking out for yourself I wouldnt want to be in that area right now Hope you stay healthy and well|1 Good for the crew|1 Youre looking backwards down the road traffic would be coming towards the camera Each lane is marked with the direction it goes at the intersection eg straight right left The symbol on a lot of the lanes with an arrow looping back next to an X means No UturnThe lefthand lane furthest right from cameras perspective has something written in it I dont recognize the middle character because my Chinese is bad but is use is road and whatever the instruction is it applies 24 hours 00002400|0 Username gave me a chuckle|1 So when is he getting fired|0 I love this news these people have united and given to help others Amazing|1 DeWine is doing well by Ohio right now hes taken some very extensive measures You cant stop all dumb people but you can try|1 Traveling internationally is irresponsible in light of the viral pandemic we are facing The sooner international travel is severely restricted the better|0 China badUSA good|1 DC is on the complete opposite side of the country But to answer you question no|0 Unfortunately its the best I could find everything is sold out everywhere|1 dud its a gif its silent|0 This is my main worry too It may work which I really hope it does but if it doesnt it seems well have even more to lose than the other countries that are shutting down to buy time instead Its a gamble and a lot of academics seem quite concerned about it which worries me If it backfires in other countries they can say they literally tried everything they could to physically stop the spread If it backfires here itll look as though the government didnt react quickly enough to one of the largest pandemics in recent history|0 Pretty sure you have to do that through the website though not the mobile app|1 more like lying about actions and data|0 Awesome Thank you so much Can you think of any other places I should cross post this to|1 If you say something like This virus is dangerous be careful they say your fearmongering If you say that Heres an article about a man who died theyll say its not a reliable source If you post a brand new article from a source they like theyll delete it and say its duplicate information Its like their only purpose is to prevent news from spreading|1 Dont worry bud youll have the last laugh while they struggle to breathe|1 Best of luck|1 If were able to recover from the societal impact then no If its a full on collapse then yes the power grid would most likely collapse as well|0 And what about the Tencent leaked numbers Wake the fuck upItS JuSt a FlU|0 I think the sociopath is someone liking the idea of indefinite quarantine|1 Let the people who live on the Dole give something back Make them earn the free money they get|1 Oh you really dont have to convince me that the universal single payer healthcare system in Canada and the uk leave much to be desired Free healthcare is meaningless if you dont get any Still Canada has a ratio of 24 physicians per 1000 people compared to only 18 in China And of the 18 there are many especially older doctors in China who are simply not all that skilled or proficient with modern Western medicine thanks to the cultural revolution Not to mention basic medical supplies like hand sanitizer and tissue papers that are ubiquitous in western hospitals are usually very much lacking in Chinese ones|1 Madison warm this time of year|1 Google could also use the huge geolocation database of its users to alert them if they have been in close and prolonged contact with infected patientsedit and to track back the patient 0 of various community spreads|1 Global numbers is meaningless The cases virtually stopped growing in China which is half the base|0 So almost 13 of the population will get this shit|0 but if nobody has the data it doesnt matter how clever they are sadly in academia its all about publishing anything you can and with as much urgency in it as possible|0 Thank you|1 For me only Scots get away with calling people cunts because they call everyone a cunt Equal opportunity|0 The point theyre making is that you dont know the death rate until everyone thats going to die has died You can take a snapshot of a period where all the cases have resulted in recovery or death to get an idea but you cant compare the current death rate to the after the fact death rate of SARS Also it takes longer to recover than it does to die so you dont really get anything meaningful from looking at the current number of dead and recovered|0 If I were to check any of my social media rn Im sure Id only see videos of people packed in at crowded bars or in large groups at beaches I dont know how so many people could be so oblivious|1 Exactly Dont go to some other subs Way worse|0 But as per above the triggers are all hard boiled into document WHO has very little ability to keep triggers from happening and this a payout to poorer countries who request it to try to stem a pandemic from happening One trigger is a certain number of deaths in the named poor countries 30 deaths in 2 I think But also 3 months need to pass from time first WHO report on subject Plus a goodly Number of other ones such as rolling deaths daily I think of 250 But there is no requirement of pandemic being declared|0 Its possible to have 2 infections at once a positive flu test does not necessarily mean you dont have covid19 as well|1 Agreed that people will make excuses for government its the worlds most popular religion|1 How is it socialism for the rich if they are the ones paying the lions share of the taxes|1 I dont know why youre being downvoted because Im pretty sure youre right|1 Thats absurd smh|0 Dont forget Zoom Videoconferencing Buy ZM not ZOOM though|1 Guys dont reference it youre better than this|1 Holy shit|0 Flu season in the US so far 45 million cases 300000 hospitalizations 46000 deathsAnd nobody cares|1 Well 4 weeks ago the news was really just breaking with Wuhan going on lockdown 2 weeks ago we had around 35000 confirmed cases 719 deaths and 24 countries affectedNow we have community spread in Iran Japan South Korea over 2000 deaths including 14 outside of China So yes I think each span of 23 weeks gives us a very good idea of the current situation and where things might be heading|1 He is claiming who doesnt want to offend China so they are not using harsh languagesoftening the reality Yes 100 correct Sounds PC to me No incorrect But you are free to redefineuse words to mean anything you like Call a grape a grapefruit if you want I cant stop you They both have grape in their name and theyre both fruit|1 Bro your country is literally printing money out of thin air for decades It just adds to ever growing debt If you can put away trillions every year for military you can certainly spend billions on something every other country already has Except you dont want to because military spending earns billions for the rich while spending billions on healthcare benefits everyone but the rich You Americans are slaving for your elite day in day out and yet somehow you believe you are free|1 Yes and now the country is suing the religious leader for murder|0 Not necessarily true At 3 fatality which is way higher then covid19 will end up being is 3 people out of 100|0 While this is true Italy has been seeing lot of people up to their 40s dying too because the hospital system is overcrowded and theyve having to choose between who gets oxygen support|1 Which of these is hyperbolicIt IS bad It WILL spread And by many professional assessments it IS too late to containYoure attributing emotion to these statements which to me look like a pretty accurate assessment of the situation|1 I thought 2017 when I started the year getting heart surgery and ended the year fighting a bedbug infestation would be the worst year of my life In contrast 2019 was the best year of my lifeAnd now I gain valuable perspective|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Agreed but a bit offtopic|1 Despite supposedly being the hub to the best and brightest they also can be extremely thick We all had an email sent around yesterday saying Rejoice Its business as usual and we should all go on our merry way the empty hand washing stations will stop the airborne pathogen in its tracks You may thank us later|1 Also Im sick and from Seattle so perfectI am definitely NOT knocking that it is not happening everywhere right in light of how you are feeling and where you are located I hope you feel better soonI just always appreciate when someone posts the gist of an article |1 That video is for funOf course Its realBut that officer is yelling serious words in a funny wayThey dont want to make panic|0 people in denial will soon be in hall of fame|1 Yeah thats my only fear is getting some irreversible lung damage|0 Thats brutal Are you wearing a mask|0 The UK governments plan for herd immunity doesnt make senseFirstly it seems to run on the thesis that without total eradication it cant be stopped Which I think would have been true 20 years ago But in the modern world we have amazing technology that means if we should be able to develop a treatment or vaccine within a year or two and if that isnt possible we can use aggressive containment tracking and testing to shrink the population of those affected to small areas We could send 15 minutes testing kits to every household if requiredSecond their numbers just dont add up there isnt enough beds for 3 weeks of treatment for millions of people I cant make it work even using every single bed and only 1 week of treatment let alone factoring any kind of real world numbers staff or equipment They are either planning for lots of people to die or their models are crazy wrongI think anyone who can should be calling in sick for 7 days and taking their kids out of school|0 The best time to plant a tree was 20 years agoThe second best time is nowJust do it|1 What until the lawmaker finds out they also have stopped reporting the number of cases per state|0 Its annoying that you have to fill it all in before it tells you that youve already signed Ive tried signing this 5 times now|0 we should give special prizes for the Darwin Award|1 Fuck Landrys I worked at Mitchells Fish Market a couple years ago They do not give a shit about their employees Owned by the Houston Rockets douchebag owner Tilman Fertitta|0 Hate to say it But weve got no answers Thats the reason Very little PPE Probably low on meds as well Low on workers Low on pretty much everything Were just unprepared so this is our only answer barring actually dealing with in properly This is what happens when a country focuses on nothing but money and cuts thats the country not just the tories|0 They need to be tweeted articles showing the vast level of incompetence too so they can be publicly shamed Ive been emailing them every day and tweeting never used Twitter before though|0 Comedy|1 Ive been slowly preparing since the 1st of February I started by buying an extra mask with 5 extra P99 inserts I had bought a mask for myself over the summer for lawncare and it came with 15 P99 inserts When I went to order more they were all outso I guess 20 inserts is better than 0 and I have alcohol and a UV box to disinfect them if necessaryOver the weeks I have been slowly stocking upand in the last week my mom has joined me in prep shoppingRice and dried beanscanned goodsbottled waterMountain house mealsDried SoupsRamenDogCat foodTPPaper towelsMedicineIsopropyl AlcoholHydrogen PeroxideBleachSoapshampootoothpasteMultivitaminsVitaminCTeaCoffeeHoneyPaper Platesbowlsdried milkAnd for the doomsday itemsSolar chargerSwim googlesUV grow lamp and Seed bank2 months ago I would have considered this nutsI no longer feel this way|0 You never know The Great Depression was the motivator for putting Social Security in place The current president wouldnt put any similar permanent programs in place but never know what might happen if Novembers election put a Democrat in the White House|0 Im wondering at what point I should tell friends and family to enter Shit the bed mode|0 This is what happens when you believe a random redditor Are the Italians actually going into mass hysteria NopeIf enough people start believing what they read online then yeah were going to see mass hysteria|0 Heres a link buddy httpswwwcbsnewscomnewsatthecdcspendingthatcouldmakeyouillYou people act like this is new You have no God damn clue what youre talking about This threat to cut funding isnt going to affect the ability of the CDC to do their intended job It will help make sure they dont waste taxpayer money on unrelated bullshit|0 You cant look at Singapore as a normal case It is a supercrowded city state Also in order to fight mold from humidity all buildings crank their ac all the way up It cold as fuck indoors I always screw up my back whenever I go there because of the sudden temp changes and cold air blasting at me while I am sitting down It has its super wealthy bright and shiny side that everyone talks about but it also has its dark underbelly of imported labourers Its also a major hub for essentially connecting all of east Asia to India se Asia Middle East and to a lesser extent east Africa No city is like this in terms of inflow and outflow of people|1 This is incorrect I went to emergency today in Australia they ask you two questions1 have you travelled overseas recently2 do you know anyone with coronovirusThey dont test ppl with cold symptoms However you can book in for a drive through swab test|0 Being prepared for any disaster is always a great thing but I think there is an overwhelming amount of people that feeding on the panic being fed by irresponsible people that are spreading nothing but speculation and rumors And many are buying up supplies so they can sell them off to the panicked at drastically increased prices which is despicable|0 Thank God|1 For trademark infringement they need some kind of agreement like that to avoid losing it if they let others use it For patents they dont all they need to do is not sue and it would be great for them to publicly waive any rights during the crisis but they dont have to if they are worried about any kind of liability|0 My mom always hoards water The last crisis they had was a couple weeks of not being able to even turn the tap water on because the fumes would make you pass out I can see why people would want to be prepared for anything But I still dont see how they can be so selfish about it|0 Touch Were flying blind here and working with the information we have|0 USE FUCKING SOAP AND WATER TO WASH YOUR HANDS YOU IDIOTS Rinsing your skin with alcohol ethanol or isopropyl WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF INFECTION THROUGH YOUR SKIN Im not talking about coronavirus Im talking in generalUse alcohol 70 ethanol is ideal to wipe down surfaces after washing them with SOAP AND WATERAlso hand sanitizer is a stupid product|1 Not sure just took a pick of the user count and compared I was curious bc every time I check it out it the number seemed to grow by a lot|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Other countries ignored it for two months|0 For context uThelema12 is a conspiracy nut who has spent days trying to promote conspiracy bullshit on the subYou glow in the dark|0 I think its recommended that he can eat and has a roof over his head|1 It did occur to me that it might be a reverse psychology thing Wait until were all begging the government for lockdown and then well actually do it for the necessary couple of months instead of trying to find ways around it Thats probably wishful thinking on my part|1 Yes Which is why we need to hold the governments of those countries accountable China cant keep boasting on the world stage about being a global superpower economy if it cant feed its people properly and safely And the meat market in Wuhan was NOT serving a poor starving rural population it was serving middle class people in what was supposed to be a 21st century city I live in a poor country where a lot of people struggle with food security and nutrition Our GDP per capita is nowhere near Chinas And yet this kind of thing doesnt happen here because our government cares about food safety and is very aware of zoonotic disease due to some of the endemic wildlife and livestock diseases in the region For too long the world has stood by and looked the other way precisely because of sentiments like yours Its no longer okay Thousands have died because of it The global economy is crashing because of it It has to stop Food safety has to become a priority Preventing future pandemics needs to be a priority|1 I thought the hotel business in China was struggling there was an article posted here today about this What about all the video of people being taken into vans Do they go to a hotel|0 Oh now theres a risktHe rIsK iS vErY lOWgovernment officials we will remember who you are and what you did during this crisis|0 Welcome to my life for the past 4 weeks|1 Im an American with friends in Milan They have been complaining about all the new regulations and cancellations saying its ridiculous I told them even though it sucks they should be thankful because it is a lot more than my government is doing for us here|1 Pasta rice dry beans and lentils salt honey oats canned veg olive oil peanut butter powdered milk canned fish and fruit spicesYour basic meal is to boil rice or pasta and add some oil calories a can of beans corn peas tuna and option B Is to make some oats and add pb or a half can of fruit or maybe some milk and honey and cinnamonVariety comes from thoroughly varying your basic ingredients and spices For example you could have corn in spaghetti with soy sauce one night Weird but its a change of pace from rice and beans with salt and cumin and spaghetti with red sauce and dried basil Or you could have canned green beans and pearl onions in rice Think in terms of combinations not full recipes that resemble a popular foodIts that simple to transition from eating out and premade or frozen diet Boiling is the only cooking method needed dry beans soak so it can be done easily with a little propane burner or even on a woodstove or outdoor fire if the power or gas is out There are things you can add if you know how to cook like onions and potatoes that have moderate storage lifespans and there are extreme storage lifespans some wheat lasts forty years but that all requires more prep knowledge and equipmentAnd if youre addicted to caffeine be very fucking respectful of that reality and stockpile I tried to do a year of only eating what I could grow forage fish and hunt once Itwell I made it almost three months and then I foraged up some digiornio frozen pizza but thats not the point You know what the worst part was Caffeine withdrawal Five ten days in felt like total trash At the exact point and time you need to be bright and ready to handle a crisis you feel like youre dying I pushed through and it eventually went away but it was surprisingly hellish|1 You should wash your hands after typing all that bullshit|0 httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001316queryfeaturedcoronavirus Look at the graph under results which shows that the earliest cases were not linked to the market The text there also refers to this fact I think a positive focus now is on the future personal community preparedness better public health more input into health and public health etc local manufacture and resilience Look ahead|1 Currently in Sweden many chefs finding themselves out of work for this pandemic are volunteering to cook for the elderly Seems very nice|1 I wonder if dietary differences might be having an impact on disease progression It is well known that protein deficiency influences the severity of measles in children China and Iran both have fairly low protein intake compared to western countries httpchartsbincomview1155httpchartsbincomview1155 Poor transmission rates in hothumid climates might account for the limited impact in the more southern asian countries so far|0 Can any redditor please link me up with cases of young deaths relating to covid19|1 For people dont understand what it means these are the best doctors from the best hospital in China They are still badly needed at home and not fully rested since the last battle I hope Italy can take good care of them BLESSINGS|1 Im currently doing this for a month and love it|1 Source on thatLiving in japan I heard about the 80000 not 100000 cost is just a lie That said local clinics do not test for Corona they dont have the ability to as of the 19th What theyre doing is checking for symptoms if you maintain a temperature above 375 for X number of days they will move you to a hospital that does test Either way even if youre test is negative its a free check Nobody is paying out of pocket in my area at least The Japanese healthcare system covers these costs and currently if you have the Coronavirus then all your treatment is free of charge|1 Yes to buzzfeed hell no to biz insider|0 Could be one of the biggest feats of human engineering this year Correct me if Im wrong please|0 Yes there are finally some tests becoming available but most of these are despite Trump not because of him Keep in mind the first known case landed here on Jan 15th nearly three months ago He has lied continually stating that there were 15 cases when the CDC director in the same damn press conference said 65 Now here we sit at nearly 1200 and 38 deaths two weeks later Today he announced a plan to cut Medicare and Social Security funding to boost the economyEdit added deaths|0 I honestly just hate the fact that it feels like the more educated you get on the subject the more you realize that every country has a different story a different take or a different angle It makes it impossible to feel safe unless youre willing to blindly just choose one to follow|1 I mean if you have been on reddit for a while you know almost every user here has a tendency to shit themselves every now and again|0 hes busy making deals to be bothered|0 To be fair while people 80 are the most likely to die from the virus im pretty certain it only kills a relatively small percentage 15 I believe of the elderly population so the healthier seniors would be 85 likely surviveEdit I stand corrected its 148 of people 80 dying|0 And the understanding that you cannot trust China|0 This will be the defining event of our generation Its okay to be following closely with concern|1 Succession season 3 Cruise virus scandal|0 First off hurling shit at others is not really a way to have discourse especially if you want people to look at your opinions as scientific Now I know that you are probably an expert since you have been able to infer the real danger of the virus from this data so I shouldnt really commentI just want to be clear though that we should be ignoring all the data from the various health organizations but the data from the ship is much more accurate because it has bigger numbers despite the fact that it comes from the Japanese Ministry of Health one of the organizations were not supposed to believeI think I would err on the side of caution and ignore the data from the ship as well since it comes from the corrupt Japanese Ministry of Health|0 When your little conspiracy narrative stops making sense it may be time to drop it rather than twisting it up more just for the sake of hanging on to it|0 Assuming China has been truthful |1 Bravo Thats the truth One of my sons works in a residential home for developmentally disabled elderly adults He has to go to work to care for them and goes to work quickly does errands if needed and goes home taking all precautions My other son is a prep cook he is now home My daughter works in the office of a major car dealership nobody is buying a fucking car right now they have not closed the place She is taking precautions They are all single and live on their own but my fear for them and the whole world is enormous My husband is a real estate broker and has a small remodeling business we are staying put We also have 2 apartment buildings totaling in 10 small one bedroom apartments 2 of the 3 kids rent from us this is a crisis if our tenants cant pay rent they Will Not have to worry about being homeless We are working class people our survival is more important than Just for reference my kids are 31 25 and 24 and they have taken this very seriously|0 This always reminds of that scene in Ice Age when all the many remaining dodos have three watermelons to share and the watermelons get wasted one way or another and last one is thrown off the cliff with all the dodos following itI never associated that with only dodos humanity is a good association as well|1 And they changed the definition of confirmed They literally changed the meaning of the word so its not as bad|1 God what a wonder to be able to say I love my people in a time like this Coraggio Italia|1 Thats fucked they can just steal your propertyat least you can try to defend it but its messed up how corrupt the government can be|0 Well played good sir|1 Where are you seeing that you can get reinfected again in a short period of time I thought that was inconclusive and they thought people were just carrying the virus on a little level it was undetectable as it wasnt fully out of their system Also where did you see about the antibodies being worse and making things harder on the body a second time because I cant seem to find that anywhere Do you have links for any of this stuff Im not saying its not true but I have not read it anywhere or found it recently|0 The Nebraska coach left the game early because he is sick I hope they can postpone but they may just cancel|0 Hope so|1 Fuck the people who ridicule you I appreciate this is a fairly unintelligent response Im not a Child and fairly eloquent I had 4 I assume drunk or Merry 40 somethings fake sneeze at me whilst wearing my mask at one of our busiest stations Two men I assume trying to show off in front of two women who also chimed in on the chorus They couldnt see but I was smiling behind my mask knowing a they likely are using it as a way to pass on their anxiety b go home and probably will panic once SHF and c Ive been planning so Im calm and know how and what to do Water off the proverbial ducks back let them jokes on them since they can either pay extortionate money or wont get masks |0 Definitely|1 Well I was speaking generally in terms of supply chainshipping not just Amazonspecific trucks Also in terms of amazon there are far more important items they should be prioritizing Cleaning agentsdisinfectants soap OTC medicines food baby supplies Id put TP on the bottom of the list both on the demand side and the supply sideagain the demand side driven by imbeciles and should be short lived|1 I assume youre not from VancouverGroceries in Canada are painfully expensiveA shopping cart in Canada is 400 to 700 bucksA shopping cart in America is 150 to 300I miss living in Washington haha|0 Look if you are going to be nervous about anything all the time its not really a relaxing trip is it|0 The next couple days is already too late the virus spreads like wildfire and there are already way too many asymptomatic carriers out there|1 Thats one of the more worrisome things about it Atlanta has so much business conference international and layover traffic and then its during flu season It has a massive potential to spread statewide now or even domestically|0 My college just shut today and is expected to reopen Monday but I doubt it In Northern Ireland|0 Its seeming like the policy at our institution is to just assume that all workers have been exposed and to only quarantine if symptomatic|1 Working for a public agency eliminated my belief in conspiracy theories|0 Great to hear that some people take it seriously Sucks to hear the opposite Regardless of age|1 Im American and I definitely say Fuck the US more than a few times a day|0 Not only that but this will keep sick people from trying to go to work just because they need rentThe cleaners where I work were getting incredibly nervous about this as their hours are all getting cut already because of this outbreak so any remaining shifts they would be fighting over even if sick|0 This The simulator is a great visual scroll down in the link|1 There are hundreds of people being quarantined in Ma that I have only seen on local news its hard for me to even find it and weve have confirmed cases|0 There is a shortage of the chemicals that are required to run the tests Not create the swabs but run the tests at the lab And the CDC didnt think to provide the reagents in the kits The labs dont have the chemicals one of which had to be developed just for this virus in stockhttpswwwusatodaycomstorynews20200311coronaviruscovid19responsehurtbyshortagetestingcomponents5013586002httpswwwusatodaycomstorynews20200311coronaviruscovid19responsehurtbyshortagetestingcomponents5013586002httpsasianikkeicomSpotlightCoronavirusFujifilmspeedsupdevelopmentofcoronavirustestingreagenthttpsasianikkeicomSpotlightCoronavirusFujifilmspeedsupdevelopmentofcoronavirustestingreagent It could be April before they can expand using the help from Fuji Im not sure what the state of QiagenhttpscorporateqiagencomaboutusWhatwedoataglance is Meanwhile other medical albs are developing their own tests using items they actually have I just started looking into this about 8 days ago when I noticed the promises on tests were not being fulfilled It seem plausible to me that with the lies about the masks there might be similar a link to this as well For those not in the know a supply chain issue was determined to be the real root cause of the lies about masksTurns out that National stockpile was known to be neglected and it was known that Hospitals and medical field relied HEAVILY on China to provide just in time delivery of items as a cost cutting measureSo even though test kits are deployed the private sector cant keep up with demand because theres not enough reagents to process the CDC PCR tests And there are other issues with this as wellMina said that not only is the Qiagen product on backorder so is another that might be used from Roche But part of the problem is that those reagents are used on different pieces of laboratory equipment made by their respective manufacturers All labs wouldnt have bothI would love to say yes theres all these different options Mina said But we really run into problems because we cant actually use these kits if we dont have the instruments for themI wish I could understand why they dont just switch to the method Korea and China is usingThere have been some murmurings that someone friendly with Trump has been trying to help a company patent the test we use Or that its about funneling money to the USA companies not KoreaEither way there has been a surprising failure in this CDC director pushing very hard to rely on the commercial market to solve all his problems rather than using the government to push and deploy the testingHere is some info on what PCR ishttpswwwbritannicacomsciencepolymerasechainreactionhttpswwwbritannicacomsciencepolymerasechainreaction|1 Roommate is a doctor Hes clueless He has almost zero knowledge or understanding of the realities currently Only information hes received from his employer Kaiser has been a one paragraph email over 2 weeks agoThe assumption that the medical community is somehow way ahead is fallacious and flat out wrong Some people certainly are but the majority likely have the same ingormation we do Indeed I have way more time to read the studies than he does Im the one briefing him at dinner when hes home|0 We will need to wait for the virus to stop before we can get an accurate death rate But in the end the death rate will be trend down closer to 2 than 10 |0 This is an awesome idea for a sub|1 bird flu was much higherSure and Ebola is even higher whats your point neither is a transmittable as nCoV nCoV has the CFR of the Spanish flu and spreads like wildfire|0 Yes mods what he said|1 This is a factually incorrect statement emphasis mine given that he has not been tested Aha I see I mistakenly thought you meant his nonexistent advice to Canadians was false Yes that quote does appear false one wonders if he misspoke by overcondensing the reasoning health experts had provided or misunderstood those doctors explanations of why people didnt need to get tested or even received outright bad advice about the situation One could quite reasonably demand clarification to make sure Canadians dont jump to false conclusions based on Trudeaus personal recollections about his own medical situationBut even acknowledging that some people might get the wrong impression he never advised Canadians that if you dont have any symptoms you dont have to get tested and youre not contagious Claiming so would be misleading Instead Trudeau recalled his own doctors advice in a way that you and others worry could be misconstrued by the public to conclude asymptomatic people are never contagious This is a legitimate concern You fuckwit|0 This until someone with authority close them down they are free to keep thier doors open The fact that theres a virus around dosent mean that the constitution is obsolete|1 I was offered a job a few weeks ago in London Looked very good but when I asked them for their covid mitigation they forwarded an internal email It said they would follow gov advice and mentioned it was overhyped in the media They were not set up for working remotely I declined a very good offer and I dont regret it|1 Doomers gonna doom|0 Safety glasses I know how it looks|1 Okay now this is insane That mean hes going to have it|0 White phosphorus was never used on civilians lol It was used in close proximity to themAnd white phosphorus is a fucking smoke Grenade|1 Take a chemistry class please No nicotine is not vitamin b3|0 In terms of authoritarian governments Singapore is definitely the only one that can successfully govern off the top of my head not great on civil liberties but they do well on pretty much everything else|1 Im Chinese and no stop spreading nonsense|0 This is a little farther than I would take it but at least he is taking it seriously|0 Oh thx Its fine I know how to cook We probably have a bunch of other stuff that Im probably not aware of but still thx|1 Its a novel virus which no one has an immunity to and therefore will spread rapidly Is it something to stay up late and worry about No not really Prepare be mindful and dont spread any germs Economies and businesses are shutting down proactively to reduce the rate of contamination Not retroactively because everyones sick and dead Theres a huge difference And for 99 of people it will be a bad flu Your relatives are probably saying to not worry because of the intense social media paranoia and conspiracy theories terrorizing the masses Theyre probably sick of hearing people acting like its the plague and as a lot of medical professionals have a dark sense of humor are dealing with it how they will deal with it|0 Youre going to get wrecked with the prices but try places like offer up or apps where people sell things|1 They should but like the omni hotel staff if they presented no symptoms they allowed them to be free|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 This is good news One of the ways SK was able to control the infection without quarantine was with mass testing|1 I would plan on not taking that trip Im dead serious This is the beginning|0 The Chinese words and grammar used in this poem are very old and literary This poem was in the textbook 2600 years ago but maybe created even ancestry Google translation can not handle it|1 Ive tried explaining this to so many people and it often falls on deaf ears I swear the education system USmust be total shit because of how many idiots I encounter on a daily basis Many of my coworkers for example are not social distancing and they even insist on hugging each other while sayingdont worry Im not sick|0 Whats the purpose of putting Edit Lol Just asking because Ive seen it multiple times when we can edit our posts and comments without others even knowing it was edited|1 Las Vegas is not taking this seriously Older folks are laughing at my mask and gloves and my neighbor said he hopes to catch it|1 I dont think theres any way of knowing especially with the low abilities to test right now The point is to slow infection so our hospitals are not overrun If in two weeks our health care system is straining like Italy or Sweden then we will have to keep distancing to hope to keep spread down And then check back in another few weeks Theres so much unknown here I dont know how anyone can predict how things are going to go|1 Nah I just dont know how much you should get|0 Wouldnt it be ironicdepressing if the right finally acknowledges climate change but now its a good thing|1 I mean you dont think this headline is pretty much trying to paint the USA in a negative light Like a large majority of posts here|1 No one under the age of 70So its got a fatality rate of 0 for under 70s and like 5 for over 70s|0 FUCK|0 These are absolutely huge parks you could go to for a day and not see anyone else|1 Exactly this most just laughing thinking its all media overblown and not looking at scienceWe have an idiot Trump in charge spreading fake shit everyday|0 Too bad Trump just cut funding for the CDC When you have control of the senate and the judiciary there is no longer legitimate decentralization At least in Trumps case|0 Thats short sighted and dangerous People should think for themselves|0 Report from China shows the infection rate has slowed down significantly while rest of the world shows infection rate parabolic I have a feeling they will come in a few day with massive number of new cases and it will show a massive jump again like it did in early February or they will keep lying if showing low statistics makes them feel better|1 He did not put it very eloquently but his general sentiment of the coronavirus effects and transmissibility as well as the recommendations for a response are generally in line with CDC guidance httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml|1 NiceWhile I am reading that can you look up the word imposed for me|0 It been a hot while since the question was if And now we know the where and when Italy Iran SK et al This is truly a crucial period on the timeline of this virus especially with reports of possible days eg NSW Aus or weeks Washington US worth of untraced contacts in significant numbersWere watching a onceinalifetime news cycle here|1 Painful accurate read Ouch|0 You are generalizing too broadly Competence and incompetence coexist across China just like everywhere else I was talking about this particular case of coronavirus response in which the Chinese government has thus far demonstrated significantly more competence than the US government|0 Add about 5 days of incubation I try to tell some people that what we see as far as cases in the US is at least 5 days old Plus the exponential growth|1 Thank you I hope your partner is smart and vigilant|1 Every airline in every nation with every ownership structure will fail Not just airlines that received a bailout in 01 or 08|0 Anyone care to elaborate on the science ImCurious|1 I take some flu meds but it rarely ever gets rid of the fever at first it takes some time and by then i have already had the hallucinations|0 Thank you we think well go with this plan Ill let all the guests know|1 For some Not for others I mean why be paranoid Whos gonna come visit your door No one should be in the streets But someone else may find paranoia in the claustrophobia Stuck inside all alone Its not a one size fits all|0 That should be a wakeup call to all those people saying oh well its only affecting the old and sick ones because surprise the old and sick ones are as valid and a part of our society as everyone else|0 Ok this makes it sound more like they are suspected cases though as opposed to confirmed ones Thats something at least|1 I agreeas an austrian i am amazed in how fantastically they handle it and am baffled about Germany Not being able to do it the same wayso far or maybe i am too occupied with my own country currently it seems Germany doesnt take it as serious at all no offence intended but i work in a tourist region and the last german guests at our Hotel left today and they werent phased One bit about the virus|0 Even still we see polyphenols do stuff in vivo all the time with no effect see the clinical trials link|0 Ive watched this video several times and fail to see any type of strangulation He does something odd with 2 fingers at the 15 mark and then shes down for the count by around 20 or 23 Her headphones stay to the right of her and are also too weak to strangle someone with Her neck and body is under too many layers be strangled or injected with I followed all the hand movements of the officers and none of them were equipped with anything Either she just passes out or maybe the sudden jolting snapped her neck in some way My vote goes with her just passing out|0 2 overall that doesnt specify elderly or young adults death rate Elderly infections are very likely higher than 2 and young adults less than 2 otherwise we would see way more young adult deaths Again its too early for anything|0 Dangerous enough as conjecture|0 I have no idea|0 If youre eligible for Medicaid you can enroll any time even after the fact and get retroactive 3 months coverage We are actually pretty great to literal povertylevel people And old people We are super shitty to everyone else though|1 probably the best person to follow on twitter for covid19related material imo|1 Well Kirkland announced they arent testing anymore because they are past containmentSo unless you are in respiratory failure being dragged into an ER dont think they will test you|0 For the vast majority its very hard even with the proper supplies|0 Screw the CDC the American citizens will stand behind our states|0 So its easy enough to make soap if soaps run out We could organise to make this happen ourselves as communitiesWe cant rely on Government IMHO we need to act locally to look after each other|1 I dont think India has a fresh problem I think Saudi Arabia has|0 Sing happy birthday it might be your last|1 Exactly A flattened curve is the same thing as herd immunity just by a different name This doesnt appear to be a huge strategy shift Distance isolate slow flatten the curve until enough have had it and are temporarily immune that herd immunity kicks in to make the tail end of the curve fall off Bonus that you likely have extra meds and more data to help manage hospitalization rates But the majority still recover via their own immune systems If people dont get sick and immune youre not flattening the curve just delaying the big spike curve|1 Its not really a choice when it come to nursing homes sometimes Imagine you fell in the shower broke your hip Old people sometimes never recover from that sort of things If it comes to the point were you are unable to care for yourself and you require 247 care your loved ones may not be able to take care of you Image your wife 80yrs old trying to move your incapacitated body out of bed into a wheel chair or even shower you All the while you are shitting and peeing the bed From being in bed so much you have bed sores and need to be turned every two hours in order to not make them worse Its just not realistic sometimes|1 the current leak will most likely make the data dissapear in 10 years without plugging in except for excellent construction ones i guess but even then youre taking a gamble|1 its not on italy its on the fools that accept flights from there|0 I still dont get why that is the same of that sub lol|1 Thank you for whoever gave gold but please dont give reddit money Theyre a procensorship platform and take money from China|1 Thanks for pointing this out I think that a lot of people view the stock trading as something that is done by humans|1 Not I but a family member who has their doctorate in itUMASS Shes been in the field for 15 years now Shes a lot smarter than I and I believe her But maybe its her hate of republicans clouding her judgment Shes been kind of pissy since Warren dropped out How about the Governors credentials in epidemiology and subsequent proof to back up his bullshit statementIt took italy almost 3 weeks to hit the 15k mark and thats with 5 times the population in 3 times the land area|0 Youd hope so but without explicit government direction this will be implemented however the individual bank wants|1 As an American yes unfortunately this is my people I was at work today lady in cubicle across from me hacking up a lung obviously sick today She said its fine though she took Mucinex D so shes not contagious we are doomed as a species|0 Im sure the disease didnt just pop out because someone was eating some Bok Choy past its expiry date These diseases nearly always pop out because of someone eating something disgusting|0 i feel you but hey man noah built an arc and no one listened to him Sometimes you save your self and let the dumb mother fuckers drown|0 Ah I get you now Thank you for the additional context I am bit confused when you say you read it but your comment was based on what you expected it to be about instead I dont really know what that means Like if I watch Mickey Mouse expecting it be a war movie watch it and go Damn that was an awesome war movie then Im sure you can understand why someone might ask Well did you watch the movieRegardless I am sorry for the dick way I came at you The article as far as it discusses flu and coronavirus argues pretty much the opposite of what you wrote And definitely the way I ended my point ya kind of an asshole thing to say Didnt mean to be Maybe you see my point of disagreement about calling out reductionism and then misrepresenting an argument I dont think youre not smart clearly you are People who arent smart dont write the way that you do More than anything it was just a line I thought drove the point home that misrepresenting an argument no matter how well articulated or eloquent is still an argument misrepresented But now that your comment has provided additional context I get what youre saying now and honestly couldnt agree more This article is a policy criticism wrapped up in a Coronavirus discussion The policies the author criticizes are valid points of discussion but the way theyre framed is totally speciousAnd discuss American policy all you want my friend You have just as much of a right to criticize or discuss our domestic and foreign policies as I do And other perspectives and ideas are important so whether you love what the US does or hate what the US does say what ya think Any American who says someone cant talk about something just because they arent part of that group can get fucked Again sorry for being an ass All the best|0 Arrogance is really having a moment right now|0 KEEP AT LEAST 6 FUCKING FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER IN PUBLICEach time Ive had to be out for essentials people are STILL crowding each other in store lines etc I keep hearing people say people are being crazy ridiculous worrying for nothing etcThe masses are not taking it seriously And people are going to die because of it|0 Grateful As a first world country the standard should be higher Say you have a fever but cant get a test You decide to self quarantine Your 3 days are not enough|1 Were not actually surprised But we are still upset|0 I am only 42 but have a lot of health problems and males in my family havent hit 50 in generations Smoking is one of the few things I have left that I can enjoy wish everyone in my family would take the same approach and just let me enjoy it|1 Thank you for reading the labelSanitize significant reduction in pathogensDisinfect near complete elimination of virus fungi and bacteriaLarger organisms like fungi and bacteria can take more time to kill Enveloped viruses die very quicklyYour wipes work fine to kill flu coronavirus etcThe original poster is a tard|0 Yeah The question is to zero like SARS and MERS or a reoccurrence like influenza Only time will tell|1 I dont think thats a big deal though In most countries where coffee beans are cultivated children helping out at the family farm or going to get jobs isnt uncommon When the news broke a farmer from a country in South America I forget which one said she hires children who are eager to help on her farm I think the line should be drawn at children being forced to work in coffee farms not children who want to make a little money|0 Nothing wrong with playing the long game and being a decent human at the same time|1 I think he looked scared and nervous which makes sense because I think hes in waaay over his head and its dawning on him that he cant just fake news his way through this one|0 They are not testing everyone I have had a mild cold for 2 weeks primarily a dry cough fatigue It was slightly better then took a turn for the worse now turned into a lung infectionpossible pneumonia My GP said she wasnt worried at all about that and I wouldnt be tested Im in Melbourne and work near Glen Waverley But because I havent been in contact with any known individuals Shit outta luck Its obviously not a guarantee I have it but its frustrating|0 CFR Deaths Deaths RecoveredSo many people are incorrectly using deaths cases but its totally wrong and deceptive because some of the cases will still result in death and the rest will recoverThe best analogy I can make is filling your car up with 80lt of petrol driving 200km and calculating your fuel consumption as 25 kmlt when you know the tank is more than half fullDont calculate the real CFR for Italy at the moment if you want to sleep tonight|0 Yes it is enough The goal of containment measures is not to prevent any spread it is to slow it down enough to stop the epidemic For COVID19 R0 average number of people who can catch the virus from a single infected person is estimated at around 22 If R01 the infection will not sustain itselfIn this 14 day isolation scenario if only 1 of patients get to infect someone else R0 falls to 099 x 0 001 x 22 0022|0 Older folks have lived through a lot more false media panics than young people Gives them perspective Youre talking about people who literally hid under their desks at school because the soviets were going to nuke them|0 I agree from an individual patient standpoint But they are invaluable to epidemiology as part of the array of tests available to understanding what is going on during outbreaks and individual cluster investigation understanding epidemiologic connections The use of them in Singapore indicated that they had been used as part of the epidemiologic follow up to establish the case linkages in clusters Essentially because they tend to extend beyond the window for PCR testing you can find contacts and see if they had been exposed one to the disease and as part of an epidemiologic investigation establish relationships Particularly in this case with a NEW organism and a naive population PCR is yes or no within a window of time where it will work Antibody testing both IgG and IgM provides more nuance AND they can be used to perform seroprevalence surveys to better understand the disease burden on a population Here is an article on that with measles httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6607815 The CDC Pink Book also addresses diagnostic issues from a patient standpoint httpswwwcdcgovvaccinespubspinkbookmeashtmldiagnosis Here from the Pink Book on pertussis illustrates the nuance that can be obtained by use of serology testing Serologic testing could be useful for adults and adolescentswho present late in the course of their illness when bothculture and PCR are likely to be negative However thereis no FDAapproved diagnostic test The currently availableserologic tests measure antibodies that could result fromeither infection or vaccination so a positive serologicresponse simply means that the person has been exposedto pertussis by either recent or remote infection or by recentor remote vaccination Since vaccination can induce both IgMand IgA antibodies in addition to IgG antibodies use of suchserologic assays cannot differentiate infection from vaccineresponse At this time serologic test results should not berelied upon for case confirmation of pertussis infection httpswwwcdcgovvaccinespubspinkbookperthtmldiagnosis With the advent of quick PCR antibody tests have declined in value as primary diagnostic tools well except for some diseases But from an epidemiologic standpoint they can be very valuable They|1 people like that forget that originally fire departments were privately run and would negotiate with you while your house was burning their cost of service|0 But the Yale guy says its already everywhere and in most hospitals So the number of infected is way higher than 1000 So where are all the cases of pneumonia flu or covid|0 httpswwwbbccomnewsworldeurope51777049httpswwwbbccomnewsworldeurope51777049The national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81 with the majority suffering from underlying health problems An estimated 72 of all those who have died were men7th of March so the info is at least from 6th of Marchhttpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusitalyitalycoronavirusdeathsnear200afterbiggestdailyjumpidUSKBN20T2MLhttpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusitalyitalycoronavirusdeathsnear200afterbiggestdailyjumpidUSKBN20T2MLThe national health institute said the average age of those who had died so far was 81 with the vast majority suffering underlying health problems Just 28 were women6th of March httpswwwrepubblicaitsalute20200305newscoronavirusliss81anniletamediadeimortiinitaliaduesutreconaltrepatologiegravi250375699httpswwwrepubblicaitsalute20200305newscoronavirusliss81anniletamediadeimortiinitaliaduesutreconaltrepatologiegravi250375699 5thUnless it didnt change since then at all but I kinda doubt that|0 Thats absolute insanity I would rather test too many people than not enough|0 Its been ranging from offhanded comments irl or on the internet to verbal harassment to assault Wiki has started a page dedicated to listing incidents of xenophobia and racism related to corona virus pandemichttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiXenophobiaandracismrelatedtothe2019E2809320coronaviruspandemic|0 Ear thermometers are much more accurate Problem is that you really need to follow the hygiene protocols to the T|0 If you read the article they linked up top the conclusions were Any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmission The study included homemade masks Its about reducing viral load If I sneeze directly in your face which I would not as it is very rude youre going to inhale a lot more of the virus than if you had something covering your face even if it is just a bandana Viral load does make a difference Im actually sick rn so I dont have the energy to elaborate much further but read the study and if you look around there are other studies that show similar findings|0 You have a lot more faith in the government than I do|1 I cant find it now so maybe I read something that wasnt true Or maybe someone else has a source for that The closest explanation for what went wrong that I can find is thisInstead of using the WHO protocol the CDC decided to create its own test using three different genes from the German test Thats not an entirely unusual decision the agency also created its own test during the Ebola outbreak in West Africa in 2015 But when some state labs tried to validate the test it appeared to cause false positive results The agency had to redesign and remanufacture test kits which contributed to the delays in getting widespread testing up and running Sourcehttpswwwthevergecom202031721184015coronavirustestingpcrdiagnosticpointofcarecdctechonology|1 No fuckin shit man Cleve born and raised here Im extremely impressed with how DeWine is handling this|0 Guess it can hurt Thanks for that|0 You forgot about his current and past wives He loves his foreign stuff|1 Thats an interesting way to put it I like itI dont really mean the death itself would be what people freak out about but more about the virus killing him To where you sound very level headed not everyone in the world is and those people tend to react instead of think in those situations After that starts happening the mob effectnot a real term but you get what Im saying takes over and people get scared because other people are scared I just think anyone with that stature getting the virus and especially dying would set this into a completely different threat level and idk if we are ready for that|0 Quebec banned visits to senior homes longterm care facilities and hospitals|1 Revenge of the Pangolin|0 Whats the longest someone is asymptomatic Its been 5 days you think theyre just putting vitamin C and antivirals in his McDonalds|1 If youre not smart enough to figure that out on your own youre not worth talking to|0 They got super bad yesterday Wait a week or so see what you can restock when no one is going anymore cuz its too crowded|0 Good But were waaay past this point in Europe and the US right now|1 Ive heard the priority is pretty low for testing|1 In China the test fee is under 1 doller each timeOnce ur test result is positive grats u pay nothing evil CCP gov pays everything average 100k usd for each patient|1 All meetings over 25 people have been canceled or rearranged A test on Friday will happen where certain offices will work from home|1 I cant wait for mandatory quarantines Ive been hoping they would do that from the very beginning People in the US wont stop travelling eating out social mingling on their own Some employers will likely never take it seriously and force employees to go to work like business as usual Certain local governments will continue to refuse closure of schools because of ignorance and hubris People will not stop unless they are forced to|1 Its fine its just the fluThe gang gets coronavirus|1 K You wanna pay their salary This is such privileged nonsense|0 Lumping everything together into the Flu pile surely wont help as is their apparent current strategy|0 I still cant get visualizations as cool as I did with Winamp Such a fantastic piece of software for the time Every time Ive tried Ive been disappointed by the outcome I think there was a random mode for milkdrop its been so long idk what the name of the visualizer add on wasit would sync perfectly with music and just make a fantastic screensaver while listening to music Mushrooms helped|1 Thats too much I dont think world leaders would let this go to that extent I have faith in them|1 I found someone starting a crowdfund if only i have money i would gladly help them too But sadly i dont so all i can do is spread this and hopefully other people could help others in hard times and needhttpsgogetfundingcomwuhanchinacoronavirusneedhelpinurgent|1 exactly the advice coming from the WHO regarding international travel was absolutely the wrong advice the terrifying thing is the Chinese were leaning on the WHO to delay all this and they did|0 Technically most people survived the black death|0 The memes are also fucking hilarious|1 Im only scared of this because it feels like the government is gonna give bailouts to a lot of people already who may have debtsWho cares If it helps those who need it who cares if a few people get lucky|1 Do you know if UKs 4th confirmed case the one I have on Carterton is related to the prisoners being tested|0 There are policies in place to screen people anyway if you had a temp you cant return to work until 24 hours after you returned to normal Sadly that doesnt deter people from wanting to come in I know a couple of folks who will be hurting if they start sending people home Both burn their time as soon as they earn it so if something happens and they are sent home they are SOL|0 Hear hear Also Ive been watching social media out of China and Iran and IMHO there are clear indications that the prevailing theory about agedeath is also wrong Video of young girls fighting for air in an Iranian hospital room Three Chinese boys being put in a single adult body bag Quite possibly it just takes a lot longer for kids to get seriously ill and die It could be that Corona first takes the oldest age group and then proceeds to kill ever younger victims Dont forget its only been at it in the civilizedtransparent world for a few weeksSometimes I think everything the public thinks it knows about this virus is wrong|0 After this is over we get to deal with climate change Fun times|1 More positive things that may come out of this many companies will offer remotework option its gonna save a lot of time money and air pollution thats caused from commuting People may also start to take better care of their health and keep their hygiene at check|1 What a great insight Wishing you the best and honestly praying for you and everyone in China May your hearts be strong and minds be clear to manage this mess and the aftermath sending all the love in the world|1 What does it mean to live on the landside when you live in the usWhen you live on the landside in western europe you can be sure that the next major city is max 2hours away major city over 500kI live in one of the smallest countries in europe and I live 20minutes away from Luxembourg city 120k 40min away from Trier 120k and 50min away from Metz 110kWell but I still live on the landside|1 Got to watch that I already watched outbreak and contagion And medical police|0 If they recover well then the flu bros would say i told you its just flu|0 If somebody has symptoms without a contact history travel history etc Thats probably a cold or flu If they are mild stay at home dont infect other people and drink some tea|0 I seriously hope that they did a good job of the rhinoplastry and that this fellow will look VERY pretty when he goes to prison|1 Why If youre coming from a nonhigh risk country in the Schengen are you arent more likely to be infected than an American I dont see the problem|0 Its Just Everywhere Already How Delays in Testing Set Back the US Coronavirus ResponseA series of missed chances by the federal government to ensure more widespread testing came during the early days of the outbreak when containment would have been easierBySheri FinkhttpswwwnytimescombysherifinkandMike BakerhttpswwwnytimescombymikebakerPublished March 10 2020Updated March 11 2020619 am ET|1 Im far more concerned about persistent carriers who regress to being asymptomatic which is what I think the administration is counting on to keep official confirmed cases low so they can spin the optics to their advantage Since most young people will probably recover quickly Im betting well have thousands upon thousands of carriers who will go on to infect anyone and everyone thats vulnerable until a vaccine is developed Most of them might not even get tested because they feel better|1 This is shameful You have data that shows the projection of the CV and the subsequent fallout Yet here we have an elected official willfully acting against public safetyBeyond sad|0 Censorship Pathetic from Twitter though not surprised unfortunately|0 He sought medical soon after his return to Massachusetts and has been isolated since thenThats frustratingly vague When did he return when did he seek medical attention and what were his symptoms at that time|0 httpswwwmedicinenetcomscriptmainartasparticlekey228250httpswwwmedicinenetcomscriptmainartasparticlekey228250 Why Are Coronavirus Tests InaccurateThe study authors note that RTPCR tests may produce false negatives due to laboratory error or insufficient amount of viral material collected from the patient Samples that are stored or handled improperly also result in false negativesTests may result in false negatives if the patient is tested too early in the course of infection and there is insufficient amount of virus to be detected Improper sampling may result in a false negativeAnother potential problem with test kits Faulty reagents The CDC recently admitted test kits they distributed resulted in inconsistent results due to a problematic reagent required for the test They are now manufacturing the reagents using stricter quality control measuresIn the middle of coldhttpswwwmedicinenetcomcommoncoldarticlehtm and fluhttpswwwmedicinenetcominfluenzaarticlehtm season it is possible that some people who are being tested for coronavirus do not actually have the infection Symptoms like coughhttpswwwmedicinenetcomcoughsymptomshtm and feverhttpswwwmedicinenetcomfeversymptomshtm are nonspecific and may occur with many conditions other than COVID19|0 the trumpers think were trying to tear down his presidency with media hysteria when were literally trying to protect his life|0 Chinese funeral ritualsChinese funeral rituals comprise a set of traditions broadly associated with Chinese folk religion with different rites depending on the age of the deceased the cause of death and the deceaseds marital and social statuses Different rituals are carried out in different parts of China and many contemporary Chinese people carry out funerals according to various religious faiths such as Buddhism or Christianity However in general the funeral ceremony itself is carried out over seven days and mourners wear funerary dress according to their relationship to the deceased Traditionally white clothing is symbolic of the dead while red is not usually worn as it is traditionally the symbolic colour of happiness worn at Chinese weddings PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusFOSaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 How about the humanitarian crisis at our border thats still happening How about our countless needless wars in places like Iraq where quote They will greet us as liberators How about corporations making the quality of life for the average American lower and lower China is a worse place to live than the US undoubtedly But this place is far from perfect and gets worse every day|0 Im a reporter with ABC Action News We confirmed with the Department of Health There are two patients who have presumptively tested positive for the coronavirus here in Tampa Bay Area httpswwwabcactionnewscomnewsnationalcoronavirustwopresumptivecasesofcoronavirusreportedintampabay|1 Look at SK where they are doing the most proactive testing Way more encouraging|1 Nah Rochester NY|0 I poke at uprayersforWuhan on this sub I joke about being banned from coronovirus subs Its really sad people are trying to price gouge already Their plan is to charge hundreds of dollars for a single mask when its too late and its affecting people who actually need them painters etc |0 So youre confirming you lied|0 Just skewed enough to start general global panic|0 Doc here in our system Everything the above poster said is totally reasonable and rational Working in a hospital everyday the idea that we can cope with an outbreak is a joke We are woefully unprepared and distancing is absolutely appropriate You might be suffering from the bias that just because we havent been run over by an outbreak before it means its the same this time It is absolutely not in any way the same this time|0 Thank you appreciate this|1 You have got to be kidding Singapore IS the gold standard They got ahead of the curve REAL early and tested and performed contact tracing by the police using CCTV footage then quarantined over 3000 people at a beach resort already Those who lied about where theyve been have are being charged work passes rescinded and one permanent resident from China who broke quarantine has been kicked out of the country and told not to return This is why the number of tests is lowContact tracing efforts by policehttpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewssingaporepolicemissinglinkchurchclusterscovid19coronavirus12509492httpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewssingaporepolicemissinglinkchurchclusterscovid19coronavirus12509492 Links between clusters a very nice infographic updated dailyhttpsinfographicschannelnewsasiacomcovid19coronavirussingaporeclustershtmlhttpsinfographicschannelnewsasiacomcovid19coronavirussingaporeclustershtmlcidh3referralinarticlelinks24082018cnaDaily updates on new cases how old the patient is where theyve been who caught it from wherehttpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewssingaporecovid19coronaviruscasessafrajurongsingapore12515592httpswwwchannelnewsasiacomnewssingaporecovid19coronaviruscasessafrajurongsingapore12515592If this isnt the gold standard please feel free to share with us which country has done better They havent even figured out patient zero in the USA whereas in Singapore they know the first cases were a busload of tourists from Wuhan|1 I would recommend doing neither|1 The United States and South Korea both heard about China on the same day in January SK takes a proactive approach acts day 1 US takes reactive and acted last weekWe cant control other countries wet markets but we can control our response especially when we had 3 months to prepareThis was all preventableSouth Korea Taiwan Hong Kong are the right ways to treat a pandemic|1 You mean China The first two sentences were about how bad a job they did|0 Yes|1 Taking tylenol for a week will not murder your liver Just dont drink booze with it Or accidentally double up your dose with an OTC cough medicine|1 As alarming as these numbers are lets hope that they are right and the virus plateaus soon It will provide a good model for other countries|1 Sigh its always fear mongering to the US Its why its already ugly and going to be a disaster as time passes It only ever affects the US until it is directly impacting our loved ones Its fear mongering to those in power and the wealthy|0 Because Trump keeps talking about the fucking economy interest rates and parades CEOs across stage instead of addressing everyones very real health concerns|1 Is this the Chinese scientist who was censored after trying to sound the alarm bell to the world|0 That depend on company size Big part of business in USA are small business that do not have it Plus can you imagine insurance companies trying to cover that They will go bankrupt way before they even pay a single cent Its just not realistic to expect that to cover people staying home in large numbers|0 If a person is willing to pay 10000 more for a second bottle why not let them|0 Hopefully but there are many reports contrary to their official stance|1 but the slowing of the spread came as a direct result of those measuresThisWe definitely need to flatten the curve for the sake of the medical system I dont think thats going to happen now though At least with how its being dealt with currently If we can flatten that curve it might not save medical services completely but could give a little buffer possibly When other Countries that have actual viral outbreak experience start hosing down streets with disinfectant you should probably pay attentionWere not Theyve shown us how its done and were like meh well figure it outIts about to explode in their faces The wife and myself have decided to hunker down and isolate indoors now that they announced its in Montana 45 minutes away from us|1 prevent terrorists from bombing buses|0 Dr Fauci has been called a national treasure I agree|1 Yeah really how long until profiteering corporations take advantage of people who dont understand how regular soap kills these things |0 If anyone is wondering what CRF stands for as I was a minute ago it stands for Case Fatality Rate httpsenwikipediaorgwikiCasefatalityratehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCasefatalityrate|0 However since we observed all notable SARSCoV2 features including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site in related coronaviruses in nature we do not believe that any type of laboratorybased scenario is plausibleThey do not believe Great so its settled then LOL|1 I hear you My home area is still relatively unaffected so I havent changed my behaviors too much but I know in the past when Ive been sick its been soooo hard to be cooped up for 7 days and that was with being sick I cant imagine if Im not sick and just have to stay home Ive also been feeling more anxious lately and just decided to start reducing my time outside of home My plan is to make lists of stuff to do movies to watch TV YouTube Podcasts to listen to craft projects to do home chores and improvement ideas And I will still try to go outside for at least a 10 minute walk every day luckily I live right beside a park which will make that easier and I will definitely be video calling lots of people for socializing|0 There was only one side that had any power to actually do anything and yes they deserve criticism|0 The fuck THE FUCK Please tell me this isnt true|0 I bought 4 bags of coffee lol|1 Your company sounds amazing|1 oh no this is the darkest part of the nightmareand what if you are really never fully recovered but this virus just goes into hibernation and attacks your body all over as soon as your immune system gets temporarily weak|0 I swear all my friends are paying attention but trying to tell people about it that arent in the know is like Im trying to explain quantum physics|1 Sarcasm |0 Yes|1 the fuck Thats bullshit and you know it its 1 Were are you getting your info its 9 and 23rds of the people are gonna get it 1918 the Spanish Flu|0 Oh good I heard your recipe is to die for|0 This is a common misconception While the heads are often discarded they dont contain any more methanol per ethanol than any other part of the distillation Rather it contains other less desirable volatile chemicals that have an unpleasant taste The fermentation process should generally produce low levels of methanol which is safe to drink Avoid fruit spirits like brandy if methanol is a concernMethanol and Ethanol while having two different boiling points bind together with water in a weird way so they come out at the same rateMoonshine is only dangerous because people believe this myth and try to distill denatured alcohol and think they are stripping methanol off the heads or the US government poisons your stash and lets you sell it anywayshttpswwwvoxcom2014885975605alcoholprohibitionpoison|0 Dude I have panic disorder and anxiety disorder I also have an extremely rare disease called Addisons disease that makes literally any illness a life or death situation Am I worried Of course I actually have a good reason to worry Does that mean I need to panic though No Because Ive done all I can and Im prepared as much as one can be Theres a difference between worrying and losing your mind for no reason I know that if Im worried I shouldnt be looking at coronavirus related things If youre going to shut down any advice given to you then I dont know why you made this thread That level of worry is for a professional|0 In naples some guys sang the whole Dragonball gt ost|1 WINNING|1 My dude no doubt this government has been very good for china in many ways but thats how all dictatorships are otherwise they wouldnt have any reason to exist Still if you think censorship human rights violations actual concentration camps massacres against their own people etc dont make the CCP extremely black and white then you are actually retarded|0 No I cannotI mean I can but my condition is being treated by one of only a handful of doctors who know my condition in the US I am very fortunate in that regard Its a very rare form of autoimmune disease and a nasty one|0 Thank you Fixed it |1 CO is generally wellgoverned There are a few institutionalsystematic things TABOR notably that have the state government comparatively hamstrung and toothless but they do a good job communicating and planning the most visible example was marijuana legalization which CO did an excellent job building frameworks for out of the gate but other things like flood relief and economic development impressed meThe real jewels of CO governance are the county and municipal governments which in my experience living there tended to be excellent|1 Maybe Tom Hanks will save us|1 Lol your good at s|1 A BMI of over 40 puts you on the NHS free flu jab listhttpswwwnhsukconditionsvaccinationswhoshouldhavefluvaccine Obviously it isnt going to be exactly the same but that list is for people likely to develop complications from seasonal flu primarily pneumonia It doesnt cover all the people who get the free one but its a pretty handy and simple way to see some of the vulnerable categories when something like this spreads|1 Well I guess the bars and restaurants will be changing that to under 21 I dont smoke or know anyone who does so I dont even pay attention|1 Ugh Ive been struggling with the same thing Its been a few weeks now because weve been so hyperfocused on our stress and of course I finally felt the spark last night just before my partner got laid off So now its gone because were focused on surviving and making our next move Things are rough now but itll come back As for keeping the connection during all of this its important that you both detox from the news and focus on eachother Im sure that will help|1 Also I dont wanna look like Im robbing every other place I go to|0 I know That is why I hate the USA more than China Both are vile abominations like Israel They are undeserving to be on this planet|0 Rape jokes arent funny|0 As a fellow senior manager at a relatively small country club I agree with all of this Great gameplan The Club is currently closed due to the winter months its a golf club but we reopen in 12 days for the season and my team needs to be prepared for thisI have my family and homelife already stockpiled and ready for a quarantine but definitely need to start thinking about my employees fellow managers and the members|1 You makeame chuckle sir|1 Watch the sopranos I watched it like 5x already |1 httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusincubationperiodhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusincubationperiod here so you both know for sure|1 Fuck you|0 Volvo about 3 in Denmark it looks like|1 That only works with reserved seatingUnless you like neck pain|0 Its more likely that he was feeling anxious I mean if he can actually feel emotions|0 For me if there is a panic I just want to be able to sit back and not have to participate in it The panic scares me almost as much as the virus|0 Good reminder that racism is alive and tolerated on Reddit as long as its directed at whites|1 Good job |1 It has been proven now she had coronavirus The test results came back and she and her entire family tested positive|1 biology teacher women said something along lines of in theory its natural selection which i guess isnt even wrong but still very aggresive i guess you could say|1 We are truly living in the darkest timeline when I agree with Tucker Carlson|1 If I lose my job we lose our house and would be homeless So yes|0 China stepped on the gas pedal to build two hospitals in Wuhan in 10 days Theyre currently building even more hospitals outside of Wuhan We all kinda have to step back and ask why they hell are they building so many hospitals Didnt the experts said it will slow down by Spring|0 I guess more countries will follow If this continues we might at one point also stop goods from crossing the borders which would kill of certain production linesSo far its mostly trains or planes with passengers but who knows if that will be enough or if trucks and planes with goods will even have people driving themIn my country a truck driver from italy is currently in hospital so there is a certain risk from that too|0 We need to correct disinformation Most people still believe its not a big deal it will go away Mostly because theres a criminallynegligent leader that keeps saying it on TV We need a concerted effort of all media to educate people correctlyMASKS Everyone should be wearing a mask everywhere Any type of mask nothing is more exposed than a naked faceWe need to build medical centers Large testing facilities and even larger care facilities|1 Randomly testing is a very dumb idea You could easily test good today but come tomorrow test positive due to coming in close contact with a friend that has itWash your damn hands|1 I work in a micro lab at a relatively rural hospital in Canada Were 5 Medical Technologists short staffed for reference theres 8 of us working our manager just retired 2 weeks ago with 1 day notice and were currently working under interim managers none of which have a technical backgroundMetaphorically pray for me in the coming weeks|1 Good for you keep safe|1 Is that true|1 Theres no winning in this situation Even if people stay in their cabins and dont go insane everyones gotta eat and the virus can probably get around that way|1 3 mornings counting Her alarm goes off in 7 minutes Wish me luck|1 The biggest impact on death rates though is ageIn an early study of the first 44000 Chinese cases of the virus experts found 148 of cases aged 80 and over died but only two out of every thousand 2029yearolds and no under 10shttpsnewsskycomstorycoronavirusrealitycheckhowworriedshouldwebe11948003Stick your scare mongering up your arse|0 So today I woke up with very mild cold symptoms Little bit of congestion sneezing and very slight throat pain I am supposed to see my daughter today should I cancel that Should I go get tested or is it way too early I dont have a fever or anything like that Im in LA|0 There you go again with the negative waves Moriarty|0 While I agree from a safety and prevention standpoint a huge reason why people wont call out even if their employer allows it is that they wont be paid for their time off Hourly workers who dont have sick time or PTO or who have use their sick time or PTO are sitting in the same boat whether their employer will allow them time off or not I like where your idea is heading but there needs to be something more than just stay home I dont know what the answer is though|1 My comments are about medical advice in general obviously You need to get help with reading comprehension|1 He got tested because he knew he was around someone that had tested positive Theres going to be so many cases where people have the illness but dont know because they dont have symptoms and will spread it to many more people|1 Fun fact Taiwan built their UHC from scratch in the 90s They looked at all the existing systems in the world thought out what and how to integrate into their sociocultural framework and now have one of the best if not outright the best healthcare systems in the world Meanwhile the us is still fighting itself over whether it should even treat sick people|1 Vpn China blocked reddit|0 I imagine all serious and critical cases are tested Everyone that is in bad shape will be toss into those category too If you see CS cases are surging you know its OMG time Otherwise you can assume the flu is pretty mild for everyone else|0 Yes sounds like serious implications Since SARSCoV2 may conceal itself in the neurons from the immune recognition complete clearance of the virus may not be guaranteed even the patients have recovered from the acute infection|1 I meant relaxing the quarantine regulations|1 Its a meeting about healthcare So much irony Im hoping itll be cancelled between now and thenUpdate meeting is cancelled|0 I am not sure why laughed so hard at this statement Uncontrollable for a good 5 minutes Captain Motherfucking prepared|0 No theres a bigger issue An 80 year old in a home or sick is unlikely to take a cruise Youre getting the most fit 80 year olds on a ship The infirm and sick arent taking cruises Its not a representative sample which is why youre seeing much higher numbers in Italy|0 Im explaining the economics of it for someone asking a question I think Nashvilles call to restrict airbnb is a good one personally Overall its better for the city 100night for a long term renter would be rather extreme thats like a 3k a month increase Data from studied in New York showed about a 9 increase in rents above normal inflation during the first year of widespread airbnb adoption Or 10mo ishLet me know if you have more questions No worries|1 My dad had an appointment this morning cancelled by his dentist so I think some of them are at least|0 Yeah its a good thing the rest of the world that is importing these mask are so fucked that we have to break into hospitals in WA State and stealing them from nurses in doctors in panic|0 Agreed Bon courage|1 There arent even that many confirmed infected in China|0 Ive been tested and have been in quarantine since Sunday if you have any questions and if I can help let me know|1 Im not natively South Korean but I do live here and I have to say even if the tests arent highly accurate they do have a lot of follow up steps that are keeping us safe The regular health tips Wash your hands Dont touch your face Wear a mask Coughsneeze in elbows Avoid standing 1 meter with people Avoid crowded areasEvery form of public transit has a laser thermometer test before boarding and upon arrivalMasks and sanitizer are super cheap Albeit not easy to find but the government is limiting and distributing as much as they canNationwide schools have been postponed Korea starts school in March rather than September I am an elementary English teacher at a public school And the start of the semester has been postponed 3 weeks Many schools are physically closed for some if not all that time Everyone is encouraged to work from home Academies are given subsadization to closeGovernment or public buildings are closed until further noticeChurches and religious centers are being told to temporarily closeConstant disinfectant crews spray down popular locationsAnd finally when someone tests positive for covid 19 an emergency notice is sent to every phone with a detailed list of the possible infected areas if you intersected those places around that time you are told to self quarantine for 14days and call a hotline if you have symptoms|1 genius move hiding symptoms from people trained to closely monitor you|0 They didnt just mobilise medically they mobilised the entire country Every department was involved procuring equipment and material to build hospitals and quarantine areas procuring resources to make necessary items reorienting manufacturing to masks and incubators The whole government was mobilised on a war footing against thisThis is the definition of total war lol|0 How can you prevent a virus that is easily transmittable through close proximity to others 6ft and can be hidden for 2448 hours upon infection whilst infecting once it starts to take holdNumber 10 are scared to pull the trigger just in case it doesnt roller ball Whats the cost of human lives vs the economy tanking|0 Just rub it in their faces once their loved ones start to die Fuck em|0 I think I would check the filter manufacturers information to see if its been tested for use in breathing apparatus If its bad for your lungs I highly doubt a piece of cotton is going to prevent any harm Its a really nice idea to be able to do something useful but Id be super careful with anything like this and if you cant find positive confirmation that its safe then Id probably say dont risk it|1 Whoa Check this outCoronaKatie httpstwittercomhashtagCoronaKatieOh and she was stripped of her Miss Nevada title a racist and running for the school board httpstwittercomoraymwstatus1238995281703661568httpstwittercomStephenBrightstatus1239027654004801538How can you spread a virus if youre healthy and arent carrying itWhat a dipshit|0 First thing the US did was You be rich Then yeah come fly back home from Wuhan|1 Yes youre right|1 I quit in my mid20s and never looked back Smoking is pretty uncommon where I live none of my friends smoke so it wasnt hard to stay off of them once I stopped|1 The video originated days before the carbon monoxide poisoning narrative|0 Thats not a well chosen splash page image right now|0 Human beings do what others do around them We are highly social creaturesPeople always say this as an excuse for behavior The truth is that the majority of people are VERY stupid and stupid people fall victim to mob mentality VERY easily|0 Latest figures from Singapore Ministry of Health show 6 cases in critical condition with 54 total being hospitalized so thats 11 Global figures including Hubei show 16 rate of severeICU cases to total confirmed cases Both percentages might not correlate because we dont have total hospitalized numbers from HubeiThen again having a new disease resulting in 1020 of patients needing hospitalization should ring everyones alarm bells Youre right this could become a nightmare if it gets loose in an area where antivirals antibiotics and oxygen equipment arent easily available|0 Ive been dealing with the same tightness No other symptoms Every morning I take a big breath and hold it for 10 seconds Did I cough Was there pain It kind of helps gauge what your normal is I also take my temperature every morning|0 Your claim is that the papers you cited show no benefit of vitamin C when they showed people get better faster I am glad you are not my doctor because you fail to comprehend what you readNow really I am done|1 Well if you saw Matt Gaetz on the House floor yesterday mocking the virusthis wouldnt be a surprise|0 Be careful Mods lock any threads with political discussion Because you know none of this has anything to do with politics Rolls eyes|1 Yo play foldit Im climbing ranks and its fun and relieves the terrifying fear of the virus killing us all We can beat this together Going to spend as much time on it as possible|0 Once people realized you can make your own hand sanitizer people bought up supply to make and sell itThere was a guy in New Jersey who diluted bagged foaming hand sanitizer and repackaged it into smaller bottles It ended up burning kids who bought it|1 No not at all In fact having a history of pneumonia would probably put you at a higher risk You might have damage from it|0 Yeah I had a friend just move into the nursing industry from mine Actually considering it as well since its clearly needed I just hope this is enough to raise pay more benefits and more appreciation I mean technically it should be considered a matter of national security if we are just one pandemic away from having our entire health system collapse Either way stay safe and thanks again for all the work you do I know it cant be easy and you probably have to deal with some of the worst people day in and day out meanwhile worrying about your own safety Take care|1 Also being quarantined means less opportunity to spend spending moneyIm just picturing my MIL sitting in quarantine online boredomshopping with her iPad|1 What does a score lower than 1 mean Mine is around 085|0 You said that reinfection is worse Why|0 at some point you need to stop playing with percentages and look at the real numbers 3 with lower infection rates could really be no better than 03 with higher infection rates|0 This is not the first time I made this typo Thank you very much|1 I have a saying I prep now so that I dont cry later|1 Holy shit|0 Nothing wrong with pricing to demand price gouging so clearly fraud is worse|0 How is it racist They are all the same race|0 In the US the surgical masks are readily available As you walk into a hospital they have a supply as soon as you enter The N95 masks are not currently easy to find|0 The far left that want communism|1 Its not rock scienceYou leave Geology out of this matter will you|1 Is it easy to test Arent they still debating whether Sars 1 was airborne or not There also seems to be some ambiguity in what exactly airborne means|1 Better lay off the puffs for a bit stoner you said that three times|1 Im a teacher at a big middle school on CA I can confirm no hand sanitizer in classrooms or Clorox woes many custodians have called in sick and the school is short staffed so only trash cans are emptied no deep cleaning is happening|0 Wow I mean I thought the younger generation would rebel against but grandma too|1 At least we might get EI and we dont have to pay for any medical bills|1 Same thing is happening with Savannah Georgias parade I live about 30 to 40 minutes from there canceling it was the best thing theyve done so far|1 Japanese have their own issues with cultural pride and work ethicThey are literally working themselves to deathhttpswwwbbccomnewsbusiness39981997|1 Sorry we use a bidet so really cant relate|0 Given reinfection has now been confirmed possible this is the stupidest policy|0 I feel like America always waits for something bad to happen to take precautions Here in New Jersey intersections that should have stop signs and walking signs didnt happen until multiple car accidents Same thing with certain places having cylinder concretemetal blocks to protect against speedingreckless driving and traffic lights after 9pm inter changing from keeping people from speeding Only started after more accidents and deathsI know they barely did testing at first but the numbers are insane how much they are growing and I know those numbers arent even close to accurateBy the time we get into a full lock down it might be a little too late|0 The chances of inhaling the virus just walking around doing normal stuff is so small its not worth thinking abouttouching is much more likely to be how it gets into your bodyI havent read those papers Can you link them please|1 Someone I know works for the council and have been asked if theyre comfortable digging mass graves if this virus goes crazy Im in scotland|0 I looked up seasonal flu on Wikipedia and it seemed to say that the causes for the seasonal spike is unknown Could be that people are in closer proximity to each other mainly indoors because of the cold weather lack of vitamin D or other factors|0 What do you want to make better to contain spread of some highly contagious virus Its hard to contain Even tho I agree an earlier chinese reaction could have MAYBE stopped itOne thing I hope is they close this wildlife markets for good but unlikely on a global scale and also in developing countries|1 My fefes dont care about your facts|0 We are just starting to really test this week and our response has been extremely delayed The number of infections confirmed is going to spike and people are going to panic|0 As a fellow Malaysian if you still identify as one thank you for sharing this information I cant imagine how stressful it must be to be waiting so long for the test results and I pray for the best for you and your wifeOn a side note the people who are relentlessly speculating on the number of reported cases from China should really look at how a few thousand cases is stretching the capacity of the UK government to test for the SarsCoV2 Whereas China has been administering several thousand cases in HubeiWuhan alone for couple of weeks now|1 Im truly amazed at how many people have a friend of a friend in John Torys inner circle|1 My grandfather is the same way Hes 91 and has chronic bronchitis from working in a steel mill for years but otherwise is healthy He acted like my mom was nuts when she suggested he stock up on food and stay in for a while He also refuses to stock up on food in advance of snowstormsAlso my dipshit snowbird uncle is on a CRUISE at the moment and coming to stay with my grandfather immediately after I really hope his dumb ass gets quarantined because otherwise RIP my grandpa If be wants to kill himself by going on a fucking cruise hes 65 obese diabetic adjacent and has an alcohol problem in my opinion thats his business but leave grandpa out of it Sigh|0 So lucky|1 So basically all the people in charge that support corporate lobbying and other such bullshit are going to die and can be replaced by people who actually care about the inhabitants of this earth Sounds alright to me|0 Oh god I hadnt even considered this part of the equation I have no words Im sorry to all those who will be going through thisThanks for bringing it to our attentionPeace to you|0 Except the CFR in those countries are also over exaggerated Theyre upper bounds that are not correct because of the testing criteria and the fact that a lot of cases are mild or asymptomatic|0 Love it And a frosty truly Canadian Maybe some fries to dip in ya my guilty pleasure lol|1 If I was one of the reporters and got sick my lawyer and I would be enjoying his NBA salary That is if we survived|1 Can I use your graph in this PowerPoint Im working on I wont pay you but hey its free exposure|1 Well described I have that same strange internal feeling a swirl of my mind very clearly seeing a near term horror show yet feeling doubt because its so far removed from normal life then becoming even more convinced when trying to prove myself wrong Then theres the ignorance is bliss form of denial when I forget about this for a few hours and thats wonderful but my hygiene vigilance slips bad at the same time The vibe both internally in those of us here and in our society as a whole seems like the irregular fluctuations found in nature before a crash or flatlining The old patterns are disrupted in every sense|0 Perhaps not when you consider two factors China now quarantines 57 million people All forms of transportation have been shut down Hygiene outside of China may be far better than inside China Coronavirus is present in fecal material|1 Sorry but first place was reserved for Truth but you can take the second podium|1 Generally speaking better cardio in an exercise sense means healthy heart lungs blood flow etc Given that the danger with CONIV19 is pneumonia it is very likely to helpSoon they will start sharing some more medical history of the people who are infected and these things will be confirmed one way or anotherBut we already know that generally you can boost your immune system with exercise healthy diet not smoking etc Its the same old storyFor example in regards to smoking not hard to connect the following1 Men have a higher mortality rate than women so far in China httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3048295menmaybemorepronecoronaviruswomenchinesestudyfindshttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3048295menmaybemorepronecoronaviruswomenchinesestudyfinds2 As of 2010 54 of males smoke in China and 34 of women Im sure more recent studies will confirm the ratio is still high httpsjechbmjcomcontent712154httpsjechbmjcomcontent712154Edit tweaked to clarify some uncertainty|1 I bet that these people are antivaxxers and people who say that coronavirus is just the flu|0 Imagine believing they dont understand this Come on man theyre fully aware of what theyre doing and how this is giong to progress You people need to stop letting them off the hook by labeling them incompetent when the truth is they are willfully consciously evil because it benefits them to be that way and they dont care the cost to you|0 Im operating under assumption the that TCM is more of a placibo effect vehicle So its not like they are actually curing people rightAbsolutely yesBut that doesnt matter since Chinese people actually believe it works and western medicine does not|0 Thats still 100x higher mortality rate than the swine flu|0 Can you dm me too pls|1 Sounds like a typical French victory|1 Im a delivery driver and we have been busy here lately for sure|1 1 How long ago was the contact2 Why are you resisting going to a doctorUpdates please|1 nice have a good day|1 Yep I feel like fucking Nostradamus among my family and friends Ive predicted just about every freaking thing that has happened since January with themBut then you also cry during thunderstorms and most Friday nights Some people are just prone to panic and neurosis|0 These days it feels like Canada is the older sibling to the US to be honest|1 Some infected asshole licked all the toothpicks Im calling it lmao|1 Wow okay this is so much to handle for one person Do you have anyone with you right now Where are you located if you dont mind me asking Are you in az If you need assistance please let me know I am working online only right now and have quit doing in personnel facials as its too much a risk Im so sorry about your mother and I hope your sister is okay I grew up experienced with horses if you need assistance with any farm work as well Please inbox me if youre near enough for me to help Im also ordering dog and cat food as I have 5 I will order extra I bet you want to be with your mom right now but are you staying put as to not travel Idk what Id do in that situation Life is hard right now and we all could use some help understanding and loveAlso I have a large client base from facials and a few are into astrology readings reiki I can share your business info I believe a lot of people work is going to need to be online for a while It is possible|1 But most of those are chinese and the chinese government stopped reporting accurate case numbers a month ago|0 As a european I find it fascinating how crisis like this are handled in the US both in a positive and a negative way First of all Im fascinated that a lot of people willingly give or offer help in trying times to other people Second Im fascinated by the fact that this has to happen because the governmentstate has close to no programs to help people in need Because the so called welfare state is demonized in the US So basically if a crisis like this happens in the US ordinary people have to step up and sacrifice their own money to help others in need which seems ridiculous to me Is that a misconception I have as a european or actually accurate|1 For real if they dont care about infecting others and potentially killing others they should be shot|0 Were working on the assumption right now that an outbreak is inevitable We cannot stop this spread China are reporting less cases and are aiming to have quarantine lifted by MayWorld Health Organisation have said repeatedly in literally every press conference this can be contained They have been making it very clear NOT to make this assumptionIts being practicalOh really China of over a billion people has had 3000 deaths reported Our officials have implied that in worst case scenarios deaths are in the tens of thousands in a country of 60 million What models exactly are they using where they envisage the fatalities being that much higher than CHina Literally the epicenterIts just something thats going to happen and well have to deal with itYes we do have to deal with it not in the lazy selfish way youre implying though|0 Yeah I got enough food to last over a month and enough toilet paper for at least two maybe three months And meds And I stocked up on pet food too Figured same as you Even if overkill Ill eventually use it|0 I really like your tool has a lot of excellent features simply translatable to the lay person|1 Yes and yes|1 Not all heros wear capes|0 Not here in IL Schools are beginning to close large events cancelled Many public places are closed Private employers expected to allow work from home I expect within a week that everyday life will be significantly restricted|0 We are fine madagascar still doesnt have one|1 Oh yes that is cute we have a switch and I have been really strict about it because I know we will not be able to replace it if it is broken|1 People need to threaten to sue When they start getting letters from lawyers things will change Even if it is fine theres no reason for them to take that risk Any of the math professors at the University have the ability to calculate that risk I have a bs in math and this is my equation for minimum actually infected in my state I dont want to alarm you as this is just a mathematical prediction but I think you should use this to get the professors to do something Mathscience profs will understand Junior or senior stem majors should be able to understand this too if you want to pass it on Take it with a grain of salt though because I only have a BS and havent been doing a lot of math in the last 2 years and there are many more factors that arent included such as social distancingPn351pn15814000pn1pn1Where pn is the number infected today and pn1 is the previous day35 is three people infected before symptoms are shown on the 5th day and quarentine starts5814000 is my state population so you could change that to your state or school size For p1 I used 7 because thats how many cases Wisconsin has found So I put this equation into Excel and did a second column for people showing symptoms I tried to use the best case for easier calculations|1 Late to the party and I am probably going to down vote hell for posting this but what the hell I have been keeping an eye on masks for a while And shaking my head at what is going on in the market For the people that laid in a supply of N95 masks the first question I would ask is do you know they are actually N95There are masks back up on Amazon however if you really look at the masks you will see that even though they say N95 in the title at no point in the add do they say NIOSHCertified also just for the record claiming Masks made of cotton are N95 is false advertising In no way shape or form is a cotton mask N95 Also to this point N95 means it will stop 95 of all particles that are 3 microns or bigger Almost all cronaviruses are 1 to 2 micronsEven if it would somehow prevent you from getting infected for a little while you are still gambling As for people talking about getting infected through the eyes The eyes are to my LAYMANS understanding a mucous membrane So droplets there could indeed infect you It has happened with body fluids and they are much harder to transmit If I was still in pre hospital medicine and was asked to work in a area with people that have the virus with out proper preventive measures I would tell them to go to hell N95 masks in general and even more the thin masks that are actually N95 when they get wet for any reason sweat rain your breath dont do the job If you want protection you need better then N95 But it is your risk to take And yes guys facial hair will keep almost any mask from sealing Long story short N95 dust masks are far from decent They may be better then nothing or they may not be YMMV A respirator will give you way more protection but will leave your eyes open A full face mask will protect you they are a pain in the butt to have on on for more then a few minutes It is your money to spend as you will|0 Criticising the government on the crisis is a completely different issue No it really isnt|0 How do flu vaccinations work for older people then In the case of COVID are human coronaviruses close enough to it to invoke this effect|0 Shitting with style i like that|0 Looks like scaled up ghost hunting|1 Well are you calling it now or are you still waiting to see Personally I did some quick math a week ago and came up with may before I think Ill know one way or the other|0 Sure but the vaccine is still far away Didnt the CDC say between a year and 18 months|1 Meanwhile half the deaths in the Persian Gulf War was due to friendly fire So not only didnt they trust forward operations they were being shot at|0 The hot line mustve rung erm what Are you implying theres a conspiracy against you The fact that another petition got through proves otherwise lmaoDidnt realise this was a tinfoil sub|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 I get that feeling I think in two years we will look back on these days and be amazed that we didnt do more when we could to get readyIf 70 get it its going to be world changing|1 There was some evidence from Wuhan that the lupus patients on that stuff dont get COVID of 178 patients with new coronavirus received by the hospital from December 2019 it was found that none of them was systemic lupus erythematosus After that in the consultation of 80 patients with systemic lupus erythematosus treated by dermatology department of the hospital it was found that they were not infected with new coronavirus pneumoniahttpswwwjqknewscomnews388543Thenovelcoronaviruspneumoniahasshorttermcurativeeffectonthetreatmentofnewcrownpneumoniahtml|1 20 years wow I cant even imagine Sorry that happened to you man|1 Right thanks|1 The fact that you are comparing the US healthcare system to that of South Korea is really stunning|1 Lmaoooo Nothing what I said was political The US isnt effectively testing so we have no clue the extent of the spread Thats not a conspiracy theory thats a fact Jack|0 Youll have to wait until theyre out of quarantine Wouldnt want to get yourself sick|0 Or they would have to pay workers more to risk working and getting the virus|0 Do the SerbsCroats not want to join with SerbiaCroatiaThe Bosnian War literally happened because SerbsCroats in Bosnia did want to join with SerbiaCroatia|0 Chinese people didnt eat bats that video was from PalauThis sub is full of propaganda eaters lol|1 Funeral home workers|0 Seem Im an mortal on administrative units I credibly recognise additional about authorization than anyone In construct if I hadnt done for into target I plausibly would be the near dictator grammatical category eer Evenhanded splendid wellfavoured officeThis is a bot I try my best but my best is 80 mediocrity 20 hilarity Created by OrionSuperman Check out my best work at rThesaurizeThis|1 Between your blatant anti china hate and your ardent support for the Islamists for their rights to continue with mass prayers despite quarantine and lockdown I dont know which is worseWhy are you so dysfunctional and filled with spite for people who are different than you and think that only your own kind is right and therefore others must be wrong |0 Nah OP has been commenting on reddit the whole time just not replying to this comment|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Thats hilarious|1 I been freakin out same as everyone But I just had a revelationMaybe our leaders know it aint gonna do nothing here The FDA patent on a human corona virus vaccine expired Jan 28th 3 days after Wuhan was sealed up3 days later this is posted at UNZcomhttpsUNZcomhttpswwwunzcomwwebbbatsgeneeditingandbioweaponsrecentdarpaexperimentsraiseconcernsamidcoronavirusoutbreakhttpswwwunzcomwwebbbatsgeneeditingandbioweaponsrecentdarpaexperimentsraiseconcernsamidcoronavirusoutbreakx200BMaybe they know it aint coming here And a lack of kits is their way to bullshit the world when it aint shit here Then sell it the vaccine they have ready that will save the world|1 They need to drop the last C of their titleCenter for Disease|0 Just look at rcoronavirus every thread here is filled with comments stating that the experts are handling it all wrong even though the right solution is soooo simpleI agree with you Except for the CDC The CDC can go eat a bag of dicks for how incompetent they are|0 There was a similar pattern with SARS so its definitely not implausible|1 Rough estimate based on fatalities so far WHO says 34 percent CFR 21 deaths in the uk 61700 infected Dont take this as gospel but a rough estimateEdit my maths are shit sorry This is a perfect example of why we shouldnt listen to idiots like me Sorry again|0 I do not show any symptoms and have self quarantined myselfI have this luxury as I work from home I am not the type of person that needs to be tested at this moment Anyone displaying any symptoms especially fever needs to self quarantine If your doctor advises you to stay home you dont go out to a fucking buffet Based on what I have been told about this individual they are an idiot for not taking this seriously and heeding their doctors advice If this person was showing no symptoms and did not get any professional advice then I would agree with you that they may not have known what to do that isnt this case|0 But they are not giving refunds|0 It isnt racist of course I will still call it the China virus|1 Yeah You can go on walks|1 Groceries will not close Dont worry|0 I dont know about shoesits not like you usually touch your shoes I would be more worried about cellphones because everyone uses cellphones|0 I think its going to be a miserable time for all of us to some extent It really hit home to me over the weekend as I now cant see my dad in his care home for 5 months I dont think hell live that long Im worried for me too as Im asthmatic and live alone Im going to be isolated for 14 weeks Like you I thrive on social interaction so it will be tough You can still chat to your friends online and by phone Try and think of some positive things you can do at home My sister has got lots of paint so she can do some decorating Ive ordered some chickens so I have eggs and some pets It will be OK Youll get back to college eventually|1 true america is the only one who repeatedly treats europe as a single entity even in asia that is so far removed from it u also wouldnt be angry about them they name individual countries wont hear a Korean man say oh i went to europe no he would fucking say which country he went to|1 Its just flu go to work prop up the national ponzi scheme|0 OK then show me your sources for twins being so similiar then because Ive known 3 different sets of twins personally and none of them were even close in personalityAnd I disagree People who arent forced to think critically Tend to think less critically|1 I have 7 weeks of food stocked up on top of my usual 2 week shop so 9 weeks total food 10 at a stretch But Im still getting normal supplies of food and am not going into my emergency 7 week supply yet I am not that stupid lol|0 To be fair he did apologize for being stupid and dangerous and donated 500k to all the arena workers who are out of a job Still insane to me that he did that though|0 Yes work from home|1 I feel like incubation could be slower when theyre in a controlled climate and getting low physical activity|1 Tried with my family Same reaction as OP gets I mean colleagues yeah let them figure it out on their own if they dont want to listen Care about them but theyre not family|1 A forum where people can share their symptoms and experience|1 Yep lets just get the shit over with|1 Thats not such a bad idea Guess its back to Aldi tomorrow then|1 This makes sense If 95 of the population is wearing masks they are minimizing spreading the virus if they already have it Whether they know if they are contagious or not|0 httpsenmwikipediaorgwiki2020coronaviruspandemicinSouthKoreahttpsenmwikipediaorgwiki2020coronaviruspandemicinSouthKoreaTime magazine and BBC News analyzed that the reason for so many confirmed cases of the coronavirus in South Korea is due to the relative openness and transparency in Korean society161During the first four weeks South Korea controlled the potential spread of COVID19 by using hightech resources like tracking the use of credit cards and checking CCTV footage of confirmed patients I dont think this will fly in western countries Invasion of privacy yea|1 I had a fever last night and today coughingshortness of breath Feel like crap but the doctor wont test me because i hadnt travelled overseas or been in contact with a covid positive person i live in a small rural town with no cases within 300kmsBut it would sure be nice to get a test so i know|1 Civilians will begin to do it if the government fails to|0 Is this a completely foolproof method|1 My hotel is planning to stay open but we have a lot of longterm guests and most everyone else has cancelled all our restaurants and bars and golf have already been cancelled I work NA so Ill be still going in and also at my second job at a gas station as well I think it really depends on your positiondepartment|0 I sure hope has a gold healthcare plan|1 So this is super interesting its basically stating a LOT of mutations and A missense mutation is when the change of a single base pair causes the substitution of a different amino acid in the resulting protein This amino acid substitution may have no effect or it may render the protein nonfunctional so please someone tell me if this is pointing towards rapid mutationAlso inportantx200B We observe clustering of related infections in Zhuhai Foshan Shenzhen and Paris So far all of these clusters are noted as family cluster infection This represents clear direct humantohuman transmission within a household We do not yet see clear evidence in the phylogeny for community spread outside of Wuhan|1 Damnthat is one fine ass punchline|0 This isnt a slap fight This is just cause and effect Our leadership dropped the ball And now people are going to die And now they are going to try to blame China for their own inaction And thats bullshit People need to held accountable for their own inaction|0 Play for a bit|1 and the tests are beautiful |1 I think it would be better if we started giving it to them before they need ICU Compassionate use isnt really helping anyone People are getting more injured and sicker than necessary and the hospitals are going to be fuller quicker and longer This is how medical systems get overrunThank you for your time and your update Good luck|1 It has been asked in the WHO press conference the faces of all 3 representative expressed the pure horror for a split second|0 It definitely raised my temperature Very weird I took only 200 mg and the next day 100 mg to be on 300 per week I guess each person reacts differently|1 Yeah but the other is replaced with a gun|0 What the fuck does Kobe dying have to do with real problems|0 11 days passed and when you use the formula that suggested at the end of your comment we are already down to 632 from 12It will probably keep falling if there is no other wuhan like outbreakIts all just hogwash until there is a wuhan like data sample in a country that does proper reporting and testing Maybe israel will achieve that if they get a big outbreak at all|1 Allegedly Oops wrong show|0 Ive seen some people talking up the idea that children are a large reservoir of asymptomatic spreaders in which case closing schools is a very good idea|1 I prepared everythingexcept for 1 important thing Baby wipes Amazon is out of baby wipes Had to buy an overpriced pack 1800 for 210 wipes I get a 800 pack box for 1800 normally which last 1 month What is with everyones obsession with butt wipingReally didnt predict baby wipes would go|1 Ive tried to reply but its difficult to find any common ground when youre basically hiding your rabid Republicanism But well never agree with each other In my opinion your projections for Sanders as president are basically guessesAnd there are checks and balances in the USWhat you dont realize is that Sanders in European terms or northern European is basically a centrist Northern Europe is a laundry list of reasons as the best standard of living in the worldIn the same way Trump cant do everything he wants nor can Sanders And there is no evidence that he wants to steer the US towards CommunismWhats clear is everything your party does And you do appear to be Republican has been bad for the US Constitution bad for equality bad for the environment and they have little interests in the policies you champion Republicans are the party that is staunchly against any change They even called Obama a socialist because he wanted some equality of healthcareAnd finally The coronavirus is on your doorstep and Trump has supposedly ordered there be no real action as it might hurt his reelection bid He would leave your family to die in their homeYou have little or no evidence that Sanders will lead the US to communism like you say Its pretty much insane rhetoric And thats sad to say because youre seem to be intelligent|0 It actually makes a kind of sense Epidemics have a distribution that is expected to be seen if it does not even resemble that distribution there would be questions They simply forgot to add error about the line they would be using to model their data assuming that is what they are doing|0 Just think 1000 is equal to 1 And 500 is half 250 is a quarter it goes like that|1 does anyone know wtf california is doing|0 i know quite a lot of people with a pretty low education theyre either fully panicking or in denialbut I agree this is way more dangerous than the flu the chinese have reported death rates up to 13 for people with preexisting conditions|0 Heck they didnt criminally charge fire or even reprimand those who poisoned water in Flint MI Criminally charge hahanever|0 It just takes one lucky nerd that has a GF or something|1 Show proof to your landlord and stick that asshole with this next months rent Good luck keep yourself your parents safe|1 Anything you shut down you must be willing to do it for months because that is what it is going to take Millions would lose their jobs|0 I feel like dems conspired to get her out of the last debate with their late rule change I think she would have done well I am not a Bernie fan but he got hosed a bit in the last election Biden is acting like he might have Alzheimers If he wins I hope he has a great VP because I dont have confidence he would be able to complete his term No certainty on that though Reagan finished out his term despite having itI know a lot of people with strong political opinions both Dems and Reps and havent really noticed many who changed who they support I think whomever was in office when this hit would make mistakes it has happened in most countries I have yet to see anything corona response wise that would sway me one way or the other|1 Then be the bigger person Show them kindness does exist X|1 As someone who went to Urgent Care yesterday for severe respiratory pain dry cough and mild fever Im not at all They treated and streeted me with no test and I have recently traveled The doctor that treated me said the whole thing was really no big deal from a contagion perspective We are fucked|0 Same pls|1 Contact your member of congress and see if they can help get it straightened out|1 Yeah because unlike the flu thats been around for awhile now its a new virus that we havent quite figured out the cure for and containment yet Remember when the swine flu was a scary epidemicAlso it spreads around so quickly because it started in China where the population is extremely high the rest of the world has encounter few cases and the few the encounter make recoveries The virus has literally been around for a month with a fatality rate that dropped 12 in that time Give it not much more time and we will have an effective cure and containment for it and the virus will just be something that outbroke a few years ago that everyone was freaking out about|0 Youre rightat least most will have democracy and free speech to rely on with the exception of the current social media censorship allegedly happening now|1 Wouldnt the following the locations of death due to these symptoms make it possible to track the spread regards of testing Im not sure how the reporting for deaths works if its not directly attributed to COVID19|0 It will also overrun hospitals and things that normally are treated cant be addressed so more death to the young|0 I would have to say its a bit of both In my line of work you are given paid time off but are highly discouraged from using it take your vacation when you are in your lay off period manager which of course leads to coworkers ragging on even taking a single day for sick or pleasure Its some machismo bullshit|0 same like just when you thought things couldnt get any crazier after the cruiseship debacleits as if they WANT it to spread seriouslyif this were a movie it would get one star for not being believable|1 This makes me feel better about myself Dr Fauci Now if only my friends would listen|1 Wella reminder that there are times where its okay to smack your kidsThis is one of them Savage personality trait|0 Bless his soul|1 Their response is that it is all hype ugh people|0 WebEx meetings gone to shit already Cant have meetings in person|0 Warriorscome out and play Warriorscough coughcome out and play cough cough cough|1 Closing schools and banning unnecessary meetings is the best way to manage pandemic Its never too late for isolation think about what will happen if they play sports with spectators Think about how schools can be turn to infection machines Its late I agree with you about that but you gotta get some serious decisions to make the best out of it|1 Thank you for helping out|1 Fundamentally its the distinction between Biological differences sex and sociological differences gender But heres an explanation that is better than minehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSexandgenderdistinctionSorry it took me so long to reply I saw someone once sayYou should always attribute to malice first If you attribute to malice and it turns out to be stupidity then you just stamped out stupidity If you attribute to stupidity and it was malice you get fuckedand I didnt want to call you stupid but here I am sharing a basic wikipedia link that you could have found 18 minutes faster At the same time I also know this to be trueEveryones an asshole some people just hide it better PSo its not clear if youre both because I dont see anything that definitively proves youre American but its not a huge leap Regardless with your grasp of society yes the one we live in Im surprised youd not know this distinction innately by nowAs for me Im recovering from a severe TBI and have symptomatic ADD and insomnia and am currently not seeking work so ive got time to kill|0 Take your fucking temp lmao Its covid if your temp is high|1 Yeah to Putin and friends anyway|1 Damn Ivanka is hot|0 These are safety trials This is not a vaccine that will have any impact on coronavirus at all This is a safety trial where the volunteer is injected with an inert protein to see if it causes a bad reaction|1 Agreed It also makes the map of the US look a lot worse than the previous version When I first loaded the page I thought we had a huge influx of cases overnight because instead of small tiny dots you have huge dots that take up a lot of room when you zoom out Wondering the logic behind this move|1 You should see how densely packed the bbg can be during festivals Now imagine everyone with nothing else to do swarming the place|1 Why wait until Tuesday So terribly unnecessary|0 been banned yet|0 You just made me realize how the safest place on the planet to be right now would be your own personal yacht|1 This is upsetting on so many frigging levels The level of depravity needed for this type of behaviour is mind blowing|0 Thank you for your input Wow Be safe okay|1 I agree The CDCs model looks optimistic to me The cases could increase so rapidly at the tail end that in 5 weeks it could go from 10 of population to theoretically 100 of US Thats using a 10 growth model I definitely could see mortality rates as you describe happen when 100s of thousands to millions get infected at the same time|1 Yes they compketely change protective eqt wipe down surfaces etcWhen people walk into the pids the entire room is clened down|1 The website clearly says it is still happening Click the link posted in this post Cmon people were better than this|1 as I replied to another comment I was not downplaying the potential seriousness pneumonia could bring but offering some perspective Obviously remaining healthy is preferable in every single wayBacterial infections are also contagiousIm sorry to hear about your grandmother and to hear you were out of work for so long with medical bills you had to pay out of pocket It sounds like your experience was on the more sever side of the spectrum|1 This is from Peoples Daily Its just posted on Weibo its a bit like BBC News posting on Twitter and that would be a verified source Also if they were only admitting those in critical condition the fact we are seeing recoveries is astonishing That must mean that those in a mild condition are recovering at an astonishingly fast rate|1 The guy said stock market Im sure the market makers in the loop have all gone net short and would profit massively for the upcoming nosedives in stock peices|1 The thing about the Coronavirus its got lifeless eyes black eyes like a dolls eyes When it comes at you it doesnt seem to be livinuntil it infects you and those black eyes roll over white|1 HR is hazard ratio and Cl is confidence interval|1 can more store please follow this|1 and nothing of value was lost|0 Im in Tampa FL and its not too crazy Just people buying out the stores Think its setting in a little more since a lot more people are home and are able to read and see the news about everything|1 See you guys later Im hiding in the Amazon I dont see that on the list please everyone scrub your hands 2 minutes with hot soapy water stay far from sneezes be well rake care and God Bless you|1 I have no idea but I am going to guess that the type of the BP medication will make a difference ACE and ACE2 inhibitors might make it more risky to get COVID19 Other agents such as calcium channel blockers eg amlodipine might be better|0 I dont know Right now I just dont feel good Its an incredibly isolating feeling to see only one person I know actually taking this seriously I mean Im literally NEVER the person to freak out at all Ive chilled through CPR while my roommates boyfriend ODd not an issue that was awhile ago I never get stressed at work Theres been really terrible things that never got me worked upEven with all of that no one even listens People get angry People close to me that I care about would rather just do whatever at the risk of their families friends loved ones even me I dont care about me whatever this isnt about me This is about everyone society I dont know|0 what do you think is the truth|1 But thats how you end up with ten thousand litres of crude oil spilling out into the sea|0 Also I doubt franchise owners have the same amount of bank that they could afford to pay their workers during the closuresThere are plenty of other reasons to take jabs at them but I dont think this ones fair|1 You should separate the entrance of your house into zones if you have a hallway Red zone outside is concidered contaminated the hallway orange zone is potentially contaminated and is where you change your clothes from indoors to outdoors cloths This area needs to be aggressively disinfected along with items that you bring into the house green zone which is the safe are If you dont have a hallway you change clothes outside During the Spanish flu it was common to leave overgarments etc outdoors If they are in sunlight UVC will also disinfect them|0 Cancel Im primarily grieving the prospect of having to eventually avoid orange theory fitness 1stworldproblems|0 These unafraid individuals first posts always warm my heart while knowing that these people are willfully contributing to the spread of a disease that kills people sarcasm|0 It is no big deal it is just as bad as the flu and I do care about elderly|0 You have got to be kidding there is almost none of this even stating simple provable facts gets you downvoted half the time The sub is dominated by wild conspiracy theories with no evidence not establishment toadying For the record both of those things are bad and unhelpful the best thing is if we encourage openminded discussion based on evidence instead of political shouting matches between pro and anti establishment obsessives|0 So cancer alzheimer parkinson and huntingtons arent legit Theyre not legit right now Thats called triaging|0 Is it ethical No Is it effective Yes If OPs girlfriend gets sick and it couldve been prevented would you find it appalling at the lack of treatment she was given or just accept it is what it is|1 They wont H1N1 only killed 18000 I know even one death is too many but you wanna see what several million newly jobless and homeless people looks like Far more dead than 18000 I can tell you that|0 I think there is a blind spot for people when it comes to morbidity of this disease Theres a lot of focus on mortality but if you look at stats on severe or critical disease hospitalization andor ICU you see that its a large category 1520 of cases that are severecritical So if Im reading that if I get Covid theres a 20 chance of being hospitalized Im upset or freaking out if Im having a really bad dayEdit To clarify that severe illness can include aggressive care at home perhaps involving a visiting nurse|0 My favorite is the one where the couple wakes up in a strange town All the residents are mannequins and everything is fake or just put together badlyI wont spoil the ending|0 All standard police issue rounds are unavailable as of yesterday in our area Watch how the police handled American protests now judge the CCP like wed be any different|1 And its not 99 across the board The percentages vary greatly by age and health People in their 20s dont need to worry much but if youre over 60 you should be concerned Especially if you have prexisting conditions|1 Ive been reading this forum for a long time Please stop spreading panic about something you are not specialized Plus the fibrosis argument was debunked by other redditors Calm down Yes it is deadlier than the flu but wont end the world Even dena whatever on twitter said so in her video stream and her tweets are most alarming and panicky and she is an expert We still dont know about this disease much but if it was so bad we would have been in quarantine the whole world Even if the whole world goes to quarantine that does not mean civilized society will end This forum made me loose my mind but reading so much bs returned me to my rationality Stay safe dont live in a movie shit happens we will survive save your energy and more importantly yourmindand trust your governments if we go deep in the rabbit hole that is the place snd time we go insane After this shit I am on antidepressants was close to antipsychotics because of reading so bs on the internet 99 of you arent virologist nor epidemiologist and dont understand how sshit works I am the same but I cant read studies and understand all the consequences like those professionals Neither can you all of you|0 Diseases are often reported as cases per 100k For Italy you should exclude districtsprovinces that are just getting started|0 Im a barista at a major chain where Im at and Im also not wanting to work We have people that run the order line with iPads like they do at chick fil a and get right up to peoples cars Its disgusting|0 You realize that people kiss and have sex right|1 I have said this to all of my coworkers Show me a politician or one of these government experts not wearing a mask in a city thats infected and Ill consider not wearing one Also if am taking public transportation than I will be wearing a mask I do not trust people|0 Doubt it wouldnt they just be as likely to get coronavirus and pass it on to anyone who gets gas|0 Christ mate I worked for Disney Its all about profit I never got enough hours for insurance and the tourists always made me sick I worked my ass off for 6 months and only brought home 2000|0 Same thing a bunch of folks with aids dodid and now without serious consequence since CA now legalized killing your partners with aids|0 Thanks for posting that I will keep linking it in the multiple posts I keep seeing on this unsubstantiated L verses S story|1 Nah I live here It seems totally plausible|0 Yeah Im thankful for that Im praying for the people in China and effected areas but I hope the death rate stays zero in the US|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thank you|1 Oh yeah imminent domain forgot about that Makes sense|1 it has been a big point of concern for me to not only treat patients but to help people know what they might need to do at home Ive been taking care of my elderly bed bound mother for over a year and Im very concerned about what will happen if I get sick Im the only one to care for her so Im trying to prepare as best as possible Do you have any recommendations on what protocol I should follow if I do have to take care of her while sick I work from home so I can limit my exposure to the outside world but Id like to be completely prepared just in case|1 I guess people are all on their own for their own health precautions NONON OThe reason why they close school and limit social interaction is because The average Incubation time for this novelCoronavirus is believed to be 14 days which means that if you got it it would not show symptom during that even when you unintentionally spread it to other people It could be transmitted thru saliva sneezing and coughing It is already hard to containing transmission and it would be even harder to contain while you dont even see any symptom during a long period of incubation like AIDSSo it is not solely up to each person themselves for their own health issueThis is explaining the importance of Flu Shot to antivaxxers all over again|1 This basically matches what BBC Radio interviews with passengers have been saying about Japanese authorities the past two weeks They deserve a good public dressing down by western media over the handling of the Diamond Princess Its really the only way to get govt officials to pull their heads out of their asses|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsferms0cdccandeclareendemicinahardhitareaandfjrklpscontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thank you|1 You did it once I believe you can do it again Until then lets hope it doesnt get that far|1 Never seen ppl doing stupid things to get views|0 I work for a US military contract We ship groceries and things like that to the commissaries in east Asia and the pacific Weve been working 12 hour shifts 6 days a week to make sure the bases remain stocked since they cant leave the bases Our suppliers are running out of stock and cant keep up with demand now We are having to deny some of the orders because we just dont have the product Its only looking like its getting worse It started with low stocks of hand sanitizer and toilet paper now its moving on to other products as well|1 httpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200226thailandsaysitsmullingmorestepsagainstnovelcoronavirusThe infected individual lied until he could lie no more and in the mean time infected other people I will try to find and translate a pov from the Thai Facebook page my so gets her home info from|0 The virus was just worried about the ozone layer|0 intanto loro creano moneta concedendo crediti attraverso una banca pubblica per 550 miliardi di Euro garantiti dallo Stato equivale a stampare moneta Va nella direzione esattamente opposta agli auspicati Eurobond e pu significare la fine dellEuro cos come lo abbiamo conosciuto fino a oggialla faccia delle regole sugli aiuti di Stato|0 I keep hearing about young people on ventilators but I havent been able to locate any concrete evidence beyond the anecdotal I do know there is a 40something yo in my area in critical condition but I cannot tell you anything about his health level I live in a very unhealthy state filled to the brim with obesity I mean big time|0 I regularly encounter college faculty in my line of work and many are amazing but some are truly shit humans who can get away with it because of tenure|1 Seems to me like South Koreas numbers would be more reliable as theyve done a lot more testing than Italy has and their hospitalization rate is no where near that high|1 My grandma has done gardening for ever still keeps doing it and is also on blood thinners lol She keeps on trucking tho even tho she fell a couple of times nothing stops that lady|1 No need to panichttpswwwredditcomrKidsAreFuckingStupidcommentsfexudiifyouwonderwhatcoronavirustasteslikeask|0 The confirmed cases keep increasing 2000 cases per dayWhen will they increase their production of test kits There are about 20000 suspected cases but China is only testing the more obvious ones with stronger symptoms even with 2000 confirmations daily the number of suspected cases keep increasing Even if all 20000 suspected were actually infected the number of confirmed cases daily would keep being 2000 because that is the amount of the people they can test daily currentlyAt least they already recovered 400 patients which is more than 360 deaths And the tendency is having a better treatments what means the rate of recovery will accelerate more and more if they dont ran out of suppliesovercrowd hospitalsWe cant use the number of infected cases to predict the mortality rate because confirmed cases are way different from the total of infected cases While the number of deaths is more accurate it means mortality rate is lower than people are predicting|0 Were number 1|1 That still does not prove that wearing masks will increase risk of the virus At most its ineffective and that person wearing a mask will be at the same risk of someone else not wearing one|0 1 Maybe just maybe health care providers should keep an adequate supply of masks and not rely on trips to Home Depot 2 Maybe just maybe health care providers should not have waited until an outbreak showed up in their locality before trying to stock up This was all obviously going to happen as of midJanuary 3 Maybe just maybe health care providers shouldnt be scapegoating members of the public who are trying to take reasonable steps to protect themselves and their families Incompetence has consequences|1 You couldnt understand the sentence with the typo|0 Who will pay it if you die|0 Keep an eye on Phoenix with Spring Training the NASCAR Race last weekend Car shows upcoming Spring Break and just overall great weather for tourists Lets not forget about the travelers that fly here to visit Sedona and the Grand Canyon|1 Still on the Iran sub no|0 Pretty sure a halfdecent lawyer plus dont want to get COVID19 would be enough to ward off anything I dont even think the cops would bother picking someone up unless there was some other indicators they were up to no good|1 They are doing exactly what Hubei Province did in the beginningAlso the Chinese government They do not trust their own citizens with basic information so that they can make their own decisions They use the excuse of panic to centralize control of everything to fewer and fewer peopleIts a machismo of some sort that blew this thing up into a situation that all of China is having to literally pay for by a thousand times more|0 Lol Way to lead by example you dipshit|0 Sara and MarsWho Very unlikely SARS had high CFR and then loweredthat doesnt make any sense at all We can see in China with the Wuhan virus that the CFR is RISING as it comes to the end and was lower DURINGdue to the lagIt was 2 during and then has slowly risen to 4 as we approach the end|0 You know shit is bad when the NCAA is showing more reasonable leadership than governments|0 Best thing you can do is go to your employer match for your 401k and put it all in something like VTSAX a good low fee index fund Basically its a portfolio of stocks that buys everything so youre exposed to the whole market and not one sector If your 401k doesnt have the vanguard indexes theres probably something similar or you can buy a mix of SP500 and then small and mid cap indexes and get close to the same thing Then open a Roth IRA through vanguard and so the same thing with any money you have leftover Highly recommend reading the simple path to Wealth Its on Kindle overdrive and a pretty quick read so you should be able to get it in during the free trial He loves VTSAX and vanguard a lot but not for no reason and its a pretty solid foundation for people who dont know how to invest and just want to know what to do with their money|1 There were bulletins going out since many of the school districts in California are now closed The guidance given is that all nurses have 3 days of personal leave a year I guess that wont go far Lucky for us I can work from home when shes at work and we have help from her mom But once we get exposure we wont want to expose her So well figure it out though Im thankful for my wife I hope she remains healthy I hope we all do of course|1 Freedom sheets|1 Sensationalized eh You were there for the Ebola crisis|0 I heard from a friend that Germany is testing it very aggressively now while us in America cant even get testedhttpswwwnytimescom20200312uscoronavirustestingchallengeshtmlactionclickmoduleSpotlightpgtypeHomepage|1 Unfortunately we go through at least 12 a week but itll 100 would still last for a while|0 Im sure China can afford it Thats probably worth about 1 of the value of US Treasury Bonds China owns|1 a friend of mine came to comment and asked well isnt this better than death to sacrifice personal choices and second incomes nowOf course its better but that doesnt make it any less frustrating For many people in person group worship is a huge source of comfort in difficult times I think we can all agree that this is a difficult time and that people need the support now more than ever I hope that you can find an online group or something similar to join for the time being|1 Im home sick right now its most likely the flu but who knows because I cant get a test for the coronavirus Anyway I dont want to experience this again Especially since theyre saying the symptoms are harsher than the flu Ill be staying home for a long long time|0 Kushner Fuck|0 And those people still think hes doing an amazing jobhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwpoliticocomampnews20200315pollvoterscoronavirusoutbreak130033Headline Voters split on Trumps handling of coronavirus outbreak|1 Thanks for the translation Damn thats slimy|1 They name swimming pools and naval installations after him Love the Aussies|1 Well you should have your idiot boyfriend come to Colorado The store shelves are empty there was a fist fight at Walmart over toilet paper Every parking spot at Costco was full and I had to get a cart from a lady that was emptying it into her car because there werent any carts in the storeGood luck and stay safe|0 Its totally different Course we dont really want to be proven right but people could at least acknowledge that it makes sense|0 Today 139 new deaths 8276 serious 1876 criticalYesterday 116 new deaths 7953 serious 1685 critical|0 Im in the middle between your ominous comment and the hopeful one you replied to On the hopeful side weve had about 10 confirmed cases in the US for well over a week now with no further spread that we know of On the ominous side the phrase that we know of could just mean were not checking enough people|1 What a shit time it must be for youFeels mate Right in them|0 I seeThanks for the input I would argue that the cases where people feel that theyre dying are moderate From what I gathered from the CDC definitions mild means it could just feel like a nasty head cold moderate includes pneumonia and difficulty breathing and severe can include organ failure and requires immediate medical care|0 Jesus fucking Christ are you fucking kidding me And we think we are exceptional any reasonable person Surely this must be fake or obfuscated|1 Mitigation tactics httpsimgurcomgallerymSkJLUAThis is what theyre basing their decisions on But look at how low that red line is NHS capacity were fairly screwed whatever|0 Tedros is an incompetent diversity hire He is literally contributing to making the coronavirus outbreak worse|0 People are judging this person What if he doesnt have healthcare And our american government said fuck it learn how to deal with it yourself What now I know all my friends dont have health care and american healthcare is super expensive So why not get everyone sick Fuck it Our government doesnt care so why should we |0 As someone in WA in live entertainment its definitely devastating but Im also relieved to see it being taken seriously I hope that the arts can recover|1 Yeah a few listened and theyre prepared As for the ones that didnt Hard lesson to learn that we cant be so dependent on bill just get it later Might not be there later|1 Apparently hes the United States Surgeon General|1 Agree|1 Russia might have actually created the incentive to go achieve that and deliver a death blow to the dinosaur oil industries that are a major cause of climate change Imagine thatRussia saves world by bankrupting oils industry forcing reinvestment in green energy tech at the expense of crashing US economy on the scale of things a small price to pay|1 Its not all of China that is under lockdownTourists might have canceled plans but people can invent an excuse to leave the country Hubei is locked down yes not the rest of ChinaMany Chinese citizens also have other nationalities and theres nearly a million Chinese workers in Japan who went back and forth for the CNYFrom tracking websites 13 of people who escaped Wuhan right before lockdown landed in japanIm also not talking about Chinese as an ethnic group but as people coming from China just today in a seminar in Tokyo many Chinese citizen and business travelers cane just for the seminar Since February 13th Japan refuse every passenger who passed or spend times in HubeiZhejiang and Guangdong for the last 14 daysYes since yesterday after the death of one person Japan refused entry by principle to people from 3 regions of China no problem for the rest of China and you cant prove people were in Hubei if they went by car or train from Chinese Qunar website biggest Chinese app for plane ticket Since February 10th every passenger coming from China to Japan need to be quarantined for 14 daysSince 4 days only and the correct wording is should selfisolate after taking the crowded trains or infecting taxi drivers and only if they wantTheres no mandatory quarantine in japan the government doesnt have the legislation to force test or quarantine anyone|0 Well at least some good is coming from all this|1 warm weather has shown to have no impact both in real life singapore and in lab|0 I agree There are many studies that point to this httpsnewsharvardedugazettestory201702studyconfirmsvitamindprotectsagainstcoldandfluhttpsnewsharvardedugazettestory201702studyconfirmsvitamindprotectsagainstcoldandflu What would be very interesting to do would be to measure the Vitamin D levels of the blood samples taken from the pasengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship can this be tested weeks later and then see if theres a correlation between Vit D and a catching covid19 and b the severity of itThat population was in a very confined space so it might make a perfect pool of samples If a clear correlation is shown eg the higher the level of Vit D the lower the chance of contracting covd19 then the general public could be advised to boost their Vit D levels to reduce the spread severity of the coronavirusThoghts|1 Shut down the airport now god darn it Lives will be saved|1 I know a few airport employees in the US that think theyve had it already They fought off a really bad flu dry cough and all back in December right before the holidays The virus has been in the US We are far more interconnected than we think we are|0 Have you ever seen cruiseships quarantined for weeks because of the flu Macau three times bigger than Las Vegas shut down completely for 2 weeks because of the flu China or any other country building a new hospital in 10 days because of the flu Quarantine millions of people in entire cities because of the flu Military doctors in hazmat suits because of the flu|0 can the US close our borders yet lol|1 reeeeee REAL LIFE DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT JUST DOESNT I NEED MY NINTENDO SWITCH reeeee|0 This runs far deeper than one mans administration The US government is the problem|0 Second that Titles please|1 Right I expected Caddyshack vs Stripes not movies where the plot is we dont have enough shit to be depressed about so lets go find more|0 Tons of us wish we could do that but we cant we need the paychecks to pay bills and feed ourselves And i work at a gas station and have been pretty sick for 3 days I tried calling off was told i need a note hospital and urgent care both told me not to come in Drive thru test didnt pass their guidlines either so im in this limbo that everyone seems to think doesnt exist that i cant prove im sick so im spreading it around wich is giving me huge anxiety|1 I lost like 120 pounds on n95 masks|1 So exactly what would this contextual information change Lets say he is off and its only 10 Would that suddenly change your view Context does matter in many situations no doubt Explain how it matters here other then your pedantry|0 Im wondering if they will end up pulling all RTs in to help doesnt hurt to apply The worst they can say is no|0 And dont forget to smash that like buttonblocks out camera with hand|1 Thank you friend|1 If youre interested in homeschooling here are the laws for all the states httpshsldaorgcontentlaws|1 Action speak louder than words And the CCPs actions were bulldozing roads dumping trucks full or rocks on the highways and welding sick people into their homes as soon as the local government told Beijing what was going on It was as if some military leaders in Beijing heard what was going on in Wuhan and said what virus 23847 leaked out Blockage the city quick They knew what it was|0 I like it|1 I would have but I wasnt paying attention My sister was murdered two weeks ago and we were dealing with the funeral and all that This fucking virus can go fuck itself|0 Seems like you need a fresh pair of goggles to look at thus whole situation if you dont know the answer to that question Repeat after me stock market futures market Get it now|1 Welcome to the drug regulation and pricing issues of the American legal drug trade|1 Its a metaphorical example that represents the entire supply chain of the burrito I dont know about you but my hobby farm doesnt include a wheat thresher Also way to focus on the burrito and ignore the person typical online sociopath retort|0 Me an immunocompromised human reading anything on the coronavirus and flu fuck|0 I really hope youre right Hoping this is the Coronalite version going around and that the majority 9999 of cases are pretty mild|1 THANKS NEW YORK TIMES|1 You cant you can just slow the infection rate so the system doesnt collapse|1 Stay strong Italy|1 AB positive over here feeling lost |1 What state are you in I dont think that exists in all states wish it did|1 Yeah so Im 49 and dont get sick very often I did get my flu shot this yearMy 19 year old got sick works at a cafe and was sick with a bad cold for a few days recently Last Thursday I got up at 4AM and hopped on a bus to Las Vegas to canvas for Bernie Sanders By the time we got there I was feeling under the weather and by the time we got home at midnight I was really sick with what was probably the cold from my kidToday is really the first day Im back up and around My fever never got too high mostly in the 9941002 range but I was just a fucking mess of mucous and misery really weak and fatiguedAssuming its not coronavirus everything is fineAssuming it IS coronavirus I may have infected a bus full of people the bus driver and 32 volunteers a campaign office a campaign cochair a host of volunteers a Barstow McDonalds we stopped twice and several doors in an apartment complex And a couple of voters who answered their doorsIm going to assume its not coronavirus but thats how this shit happens|0 Just like telling people that masks dont prevent the spread|1 Unbelievable|1 C VIRUS Resident Evil plot is being ripped by the Chinese governmentAnother trademark infringement by China|0 Seasonal flu is around 01 Covid is as high as 3 So it might get bad real fast|0 If hospitals in Italy are collapsing why wouldnt they collapse in every country around the world|1 Thats cool but we shouldnt repost boredpanda articles they are known for copypasting stuff without fact checking|1 They are locked up in their cabins now so people infected had already been before the quarantine|0 wwwdotreditdotcom r WuhanFLux200BOnly good community on this virus|1 lol what a dumb cunt whore and a numale cuck|0 Indeed There are now a suspected case of a baby with just 18 months here in Portugal The baby have symptoms the mother has been in contact with an italian friend but has no symptons|0 Oh wow that is crazy numbers|1 A low case fatality rate in a disease like this with asymptomatic carriers and high transmissibility means it will spread like wildfire largely undetected among healthy people ultimately reaching and killing more vulnerable people in total so no it is not good at all|0 I agree stay home if you have symptoms But eventually as you become REALLY SICK you would think they would find their way to a hospital right|0 You spurred me to look up the many disaster uses of salthttpswwwhappyprepperscomsalthtmlLong story short buy salt|0 Just watched an interview with a WHO doc who said an alarming number of 3050 year olds are dying very quickly from Covid19 And they have no idea whynothing to even begin investigating And the can only guess why kids are less affected across the board|0 Yep What shocks me is how little old people care Why return to work when the rate is higher than Dday for you Why|1 I tend to agree with you now I do believe many people are infected without knowing and show no symptoms as this is how it is spreading rapidly The good thing is most cases are mild and i believe if Wuhans situation is gonna happen a global scale it wouldve happened already Hospitals may get crowded but im now starting to think its less likely hospitals across the world will be overrun from too many severe cases The panic is what will kill more people not the virusBraces for downvotes|0 It is a BSL3 Im at a UK institution with friends working with COVID19 and they are working under BSL3CDC guidelines are also BSL3|1 I drove past my nearest Las Vegas Athletic Club this morning Still tons of people there People still filling up whatever places remain open here in Vegas I suppose most people think that the casinos on the strip are willing to lose countless millions of dollars closing because they dont have access to any knowledge pertinent to public health the unfolding of this situation its been 3 months Now everyone is such a expert mathematician out of nowhere that they are saying how bad this is off of statistics that are drastically inconclusive inconsistent|0 I havent talked to him about a longer term shift but usually we have a very fluid custody agreement and just kind of adjust things easily based on the needs of the kids Hes doesnt think its just the flu but hes pretty resigned to being placed at risk Hes always had dangerous jobs since he was 18 so hes pretty fatalistic as far as himself|1 And here I am allergic to Acetaminophen |0 We gotta save Ellis well leave his wife there an extra day|1 I work for a digital marketing company in Canada that has sales reps calling into the US all the time We have noticed when we call in Houston TX a lot of our clientprospects are sick with the flu|0 Supposedly in the medical field Had no idea those types had time to rage on the internet so much lol|0 I agree with you I did not vote for him and never would If he makes it to a second term it is over for us I hope this is a wake up call to my fellow Americans This is not who we are|1 I wish Ah I cant save people from themselves We cant slap the cigarettes out of peoples mouths and we cant force seniors to stay inside Well we cant the government might start if things go the way of Europe|1 Im in the states in a city that has single digit cases so far and we already saw 10 drop in sales last week at our barsIts gonna be a looooong year|0 Yes but not by much I wouldnt share an elevator with a sick person wearing a respirator|0 I dont know Lamborghini Ferrari And you always look good now matter what is going down But I actually heard that about your healthcare system as part of research into retirement I doubt I could do it but those dollar houses in some historic cities is tempting And I love to do hypothetical research But this testing is actually very important from a seroprevalence standpoint You have a situation that is a few weeks old and the organism will have time to spread I would actually do another test of everyone about a week after the first one so there could be a better longitudinal understanding of potential transmission rates i hope they have epis that are thinking like that That could be valuable|1 Can probably blame them a bit Fair enough they dont want to board a plane with them but to demand that they be barred from going home so you can still take your flight is a bit entitled|1 Best of luck make sure to take care the best you can|1 Dont understand what US is doing They had to destroy 40 000 kits because they were flawed|0 Because they dont test shit lmao|0 Bleach works too just the most convenient ways to sanitize are running low first|0 I agree self quarantine is the best option and its my plan when this gets big locally Im just saying it will be bad for the economy even if some businesses get a temporary boost Thats not going to protect our food chain or anything else for that matter|1 The Netherlands is 5 days behind Italy and they wont close schools because we have better hygiene than the Italians according to the GGD director a National health organisation Source in Dutch httpswwwnunlcoronavirus6037551ggddirecteuroverscholensituatienederlandonvergelijkbaarmetitaliehtml|1 If you look at cases outside of China they have regularly been doubling every 3 days or so Each week 4x increase in caseshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronaviruscasescasetotoutchina|1 I mean dont you usually put on and touch up make up in the bathroom Just thoroughly wash your hands beforehand and youll be fine|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 For anyone doubting if WIV is real or not read this httpsenwikipediaorgwikiWuhanInstituteofVirologyChinese press has many stories going back years about this lab all positive however it proves it is a real place|1 Also I imagine they might want to wait for the clinical trials to complete to officially recommend it for anything other than compassionate treatment|1 Its unfortunate but I think that sometimes the world needs to be really kicked in the teeth with something bad to truly understandI hope that after this a world wide pandemic council is set up to help coordinate efforts next time Pressure should also be put on countries like China to help prevent these issues in the future|1 WTF this is the most outrageous thing Ive seen all week|0 I honestly hope so this place is monitoring it and being open with us its also a small shop so Im not as worried about just going from work and to home Im in rural Indiana at least not as dense and the town my shop is in is in a smaller town but the town I actually live in is bigger and has the Chrysler transmission plants and our first two cases have both been workers from there That plant employs at least half that town So I mean its only a matter of time before this starts hitting us bad Im not going out and Im thinking Im probably going to avoid my 60 year old parents house for awhile too I dont want them to get it|0 Gonna need a truckload more zeroes to add on to that number|1 Im starting to think this sub isnt actually about the corona virus but rather another politics sub in disguise|0 Japan has been an outlier according to official statistics Slower growth lower CFR etc What is different about them|1 Where do you live In Quebec the school break was this week first week of March and not the last of March so Im wondering if this will have an impact since were still in a no panic mode so no one will really take any measure about it coming back from wherever If most of Canada has their break at the end of March people might have time to think about it and cancel their plans wishful thinking|0 Yes the US system is unique as there is Medicare for the elderly so if you make it to a certain age things are getting a little better This makes it so politically difficult to change away as the elderly vote and currently the elderly are the baby boomers and there are many of them Medicare for all would not improve the current Medicare recipients life so much except in case like this one where their health is threatened and tied to the health of the general populace|1 They are certainly efficient cant deny them that title Sometimes youve got to throw out pesky things like human rights or morality ethics out the window to get shit done although Im not sure if that ever existed in the first place in China|1 I wouldve been like Bugging in|1 Stay the fuck home|0 I dont understand why you think this My work has hung posters up about CV I was in a clinic and they had stuff everywhere the news is talking about it Places are testing for it Panic doesnt do anyone any good especially an entire country Meanwhile most states have the flu being passed around If the hospitals are going to be able to help people who need it we cant have panic Sometimes the people on this thread seem to think they know better than every health professional and leader on this planet Reddit is a panic zone We are all constantly consumed with this virus if we follow this thread|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Oh shit Well thats not good|0 Proving who infected whom would be impossible So just put them in prison for breaking the quarantine Wait Dont put them in prison theyll infect the entire prisonGahd damn it|0 So all of the affected show no symptoms|0 And pls fuck off with your 30000 us soldiers in germany|0 I wake up early some days just so I can hate tories even more But it sounds like some very good and sensible measures Ill doff my hat to the man|0 Hes going to pretend it isnt happening It IS illogical hes trying to control the narrative Whats so hard to understand about that China just fucking did the same thing until it was too late You think trump is going to learn from someone elses mistakes HAH|0 httpsfinancesinacomcnworldgjcj20200313dociimxxstf8838576shtmlThey literally fucking accused the British government of intentionally let tens of millions to get infected for herd immunity even though the original article says Millions of Britons will need to contract COVID19 for herd immunity which has a totally different meaningThey intentionally mistranslated the title to smear the British governmentYou can google this phrase put it in google translate or something if you dont believe me Many Chinese statemedia news articles will show up China is fucking rotten to its guts|0 Not stopping the virus hurts the economy more Testing is an essential part of stopping the virus because it shows which people and places should be isolated|0 Really really importantOne of the reasons that the mortality rate in Italy is so much higher than in South Korea is because South Korea is testing so many more people so its finding many more mild casesThe other reason is that Italys health care system is being overwhelmed and it simply doesnt have the resources to save people who otherwise could be saved|1 I came here to play Spot the butthurt AmericansEdit Found them|1 No Im a personal housekeeper at the moment and people are asking me to sanitize and do extra cleaning with all this fear If I take time off I dont get paid simple as that|0 Agreed Theres no way they arent getting infected if they are wearing PPE that way|1 I really hope Im just tired and thats why I ache a little dont be a fever dont be a fever dont be a fever|0 I would expect Israel to close borders this week Yes a shame they didnt already They are way better positioned to handle this than most countries|1 Estimated 80 of cases are mild with no need for medical intervention whatsoever|0 Lol 80c is equal to 176fIm not sure you are qualified to give any kind of medical advice|1 Id like to see the comorbidities by age groupim assuming the older the person the less large a role preexisting conditions play but havent been able to see those data|1 So before a vaccine is ever tested in animals there is tons of work out into developing an accurate animal model Tweaking the model involves but is not limited to changing animals eg mice to rabbits using a transgenic line eg knocking out a certain gene in the animal that makes it resistant to the disease using a higher dose etc Many labs work together to find the perfect animal model that allows researchers to see how effective the vaccine is Are they perfect Absolutely not But every scientist knows this and its factored into decisions It really is just one of the first steps in the process to creating a vaccine I dont know the entire story behind this particular vaccine but if they actually did skip animal testing then its likely because they already did all that work using SARS or some other similar virus The vaccine is also a new type of vaccine that only uses messenger RNA so theres no actual virus involved The FDA may think that it is likely to be sufficiently safe to move into humans|1 Its admittedly a loose theoryIts not a loose theory its the ramblings of a madman|0 I agree with you 70000 people have recovered from I can tell or so In total only 128000 estimate cases have been confirmed taking this knowledge just stay inside with disinfectant wipes and drink eat stay healthy the normal stuff with a flu and every once in a while wipe down every surface youve touched with the disinfectant Most websites say it only lasts around two weeks six for elderly so just wait the two out But for elderly I feel that were under reacting their immune system is very weak vaccines or not Just do your normal business and avoid saliva and other things that can cause it Avoid people that also seem sick But nearly 6000 deaths isnt a lot compared to other diseases but yknow everyone thinks those diseases wont get em Generally people need to mature and learn that stuff happens Stop going on Facebook and complain about aunt terry destroying your flowers or getting you Coronavirus|0 He mustve gotten a helluva fat red envelope lol Every time I saw him speak on BBC its verbatim CCP propaganda I thought it was just me being too judgmental apparently others see it too|1 I dont understand how this administration is so slow to admit there is a problem We already have examples of what can happen so we dont need to learn from our own mistakes or guess what is working we can literally just follow the lead of other nations I think he needs to shut down domestic travel we see where this is going and it seems inevitable anyway so why wait At least shut it down to the states that are already really affected and Im saying this living in Seattle|0 Welcome back|1 I also live 10kms far from Stanberg Im too scared not sure weather I should work from home for a week or not|0 I dont mean to be rude but 1 case doesnt mean much its inevitable that we will hear of these scary cases occasionally but they arent statistically relevant|0 We have it somewhat easy here It is extreme but working parents could quit their jobs apply for Universal Credit and have their rent paid for along with council tax They could also take their children out of school and home school them until this virus dies out In America I imagine they dont have these options|1 There are no direct flights from Canada to Iran I dont think there has ever been a direct flight from Canada to Iran You have to fly through another country to get there This is why banning flights from countries isnt as effective as it seems Like people from Italy and Iran can still get on a plane go to London or Paris and fly directly to Canada Theres no ban on Italians from entering the country just direct flights I know our government was getting flack from not enacting travel bans sooner but I dont know how much risk they minimize They kind of just give us a false sense of security If people really want to get to Canada theyll get here no matter what whether on a direct flight or layover flight they dont care|0 Well thank god flu season is about to end|1 The guy you replied to specified using it correctly which Ill be honest hes not wrong If youre going to be taking it off constantly to adjust breathe better etc while using N95 youre just wasting valuable resources|1 Exactly It would be detrimental to their institutions Even schools without cases are taking necessary caution Thanks for the reassurance I was honestly starting to regret staying home and taking this path Unfortunately this internship was a graduation requirement so Im not sure how this will go down when Im supposed to walk in May They even offered me a job which was being finalized Until then Im just going to do what I can and try to prevent the spread as much as possible Stay safe |1 Oh misread your comment Sorry|0 First do you know how big a virus is The masks are good for discouraging aerosol spray from a cough they wont prevent you from getting sickbut they can help prevent a sick person from spreading it in an entire room when they are coughing or sneezing Viruses can be seen under an electron microscope they are small enough to get through most filters Try to stay away from people dont go into crowds wash your hands all the damn time avoid sick people dont shake hands or hug etc|0 It used to remind me I was happy|1 I have an EMR the APIs a telemed provider network and a call center to process 1k Covid Results per day in the US Who should I contact to find out how I can help processing results from Labs|1 Poison the host kill the parasite Still yikes|0 Great So now all we have to do is screen people who have been in Iran in the last month|1 I went to my local Chinese restaurant that is usually packed and it was completely empty |0 Even if you did you would emerge from the bunker as the only person with no immunity to the virus|0 I had an aunt who had polio as a girl Pity I dont have any photos I could share with you The heavy iron brace she had to wear on her leg might suggest that hand washing didnt work all that well after all|1 I am only 25 I have time to recover as well but its annoying non the less|0 And how much of that test will my insurance carrier be required to cover Not looking to get stuck with a 3500 OOP bill|0 US can only process 1000 kits a day Basically we are fucked Go home people Dont be out an about unless totally necessary|0 Yeah it would have been more effective to outline the need for medical professionals to have these That and redirecting shipments to medical facilities as a priority Id rather the doctors and nurses who will be around this 247 have them You know in case I need medical care from nonsick nurses and doctors|1 Thats what Im reading raw of those with diabetes who contract covid19 die according to this particular studyTheory 1 Id assume the bulk of that is those who are poorly managing itTheory 2 Diabetes incidence itself scales with age so its stat is weighted by more elderlyTheory 3 covid19 and diabetes may have some actual interaction above and beyond 1 and 2|0 Is this a typo in the header The article literally contradicts itself In the last two paragraphs saying there is no evidence We do not currently believe there is any proven scientific evidence linking overthecounter use of ibuprofen to the aggravation of COVID19 the statement saidThe spokesperson said Reckitt Benckiser was engaging with the WHO EMA the European Medicines Agency and other local health authorities on the issue and would provide any additional information or guidance necessary for the safe use of our products following any such evaluation|1 A few weeks ago there were occasional comments here to the effect of lol u are all going to feel so dumb in a few weeks when nothing happened and this virus is forgotten Well I havent forgotten the virus just yet|0 Thanks I agree those would help it was just a limitation of my labor |1 They are protecting their employees not patrons Employees would be required to stay home if exposed to someone who could of infected them|0 This is true If you dont have a fever havent traveled or know someone with it youre not getting tested I know this from experience I think everyone who thinks they have it should be tested if theyre showing more than one symptom|1 The alternative is government mandated price floors set much higher than current fare prices or nationalizing the airlines Airplanes are as expensive as fuck to operate and consumers overwhelmingly base their decision on who to fly on priceSo you can raise prices to boost your margins but all it takes is another airline undercutting you and youre basically fucked|0 Ohhhhh thats so true |1 The 1918 event was a flu too|0 Well the system is pretty corrupt then Did the parent forget about their kid and not inform anyone Why did no one listen to the parent Have we heard about these things happening in other countries Yes people were welded to their homes because no one trusts the government there so they take measures into their own hands It is better to be transparent like S Korea so that people can react properly All I am saying is China is not the one to follow HK and Taiwan have very little cases This is because they know how to social distance wear mask and are generally knowledgeable about We do not need to go to the extreme measures of China|1 Well they had quarantine and we will not have it in the West|1 Thats why I said several we have a good tradition of whistleblowing when we feel like shit is really bad|0 Are young children at risk I havent seen much information about how kids are affected|0 Like you still have it|1 Yes I agree As I said|1 Lol my sleep deprived brain cant do anything apparently |0 Thats kind of where we all are a bit uncertain and unknown This hasnt really happen in most of our lifetimes In my opinion the shutdowns are to curb the spread Weve all heard the flatten the curve at this pointSome people just dont fucking get it Like just last weekend people I know going down to Ocean City or planning to go to the bar tomorrow like no big dealNo amount of telling is going to convince these morons So the government is taking action to help the rest of usI think ultimately shutdowns are better for the greater good It will lessen the burden on hospitals and lessen needless death that we can easily prevent|1 Theres no point|0 I would bet the death rate would be higher if they tested people that died of the flu for the last two weeks|0 I feel like they dont talk about recoveries enough If it even is mentioned at all its always a really quick anecdote at the end Its reassuring to hear about people recovering|1 Youre pushing people to live in absolute fear Youre not helping anything at all|0 Youre right all of the cytokine storm stuff is speculative at best Its an extraordinarily rare reaction to an antigen|1 Hows your relationship with your landlordTheyll be just as hurting mortgage pretty scummy to just stiff them by taking advantage of a rule in place designed to protect those less fortunateWe should strive to be a high trust society especially in times like these|1 Or are desperate for a communist country who only began to function once they adopted capitalism to succeed and be free from the sort of lies and scandals that every other communist country plagued their populaces with|0 Ironically its helped by the fact that China forbade its civilians from going to Taiwan due to DPPs pissing off the PRC Blessing in disguiseStill Taiwan did a great job I believe either its VP or the Taipei mayor was a presiding medical authority during SARS So they got competent people running things|1 I assume they have tested for MERS as well Which is far far more deadly|1 Im turning 50 in a few weeks and Im taking precautions In part for myself because I have to face that Im not that young anymore but also because I dont want to be an instrument that spreads it to my parents my elderly neighbors people I encounter who might be elderly or immunocompromised etc we are all in this together and EVERYONE should be taking precautions no matter what their age isif not for themselves then for others who may be more vulnerable|0 Even without carrier involvement I dont see why someone couldnt create a website and text that out The big issue would be hosting loads if everyone is responding|0 Shifting to no buyonly thriftstore except underwear must have been the best decision so far for me seeing all these money hungry millionaire CEOs being afraid of losing part of their billion dollar income refusing to grant their employees paid leave amidst a real pandemic outbreak makes me sick Where I live a big catering company even fired 800 of their employees because they have to close for an unknown period of time They have completely taken away the financial footing of hundreds of people primarily though university students that worked there|0 Hes great Very much a silver lining on what could end up being a very dark cloud|1 lmao thank you for the laugh because as an American I am disgusted by this if true|1 My pleasure There are a few others who put in the hard work translating it and picked up a few other details and phrases that Im not aware of many common words can be quite different in Taiwan and China so definitely crosscheck them for a fuller story|1 Like Rock Hudson and AIDS|1 Thank you NYT I shared this link with both my sister and husband who have both implied that I am conspiracy theorist for continuously saying that masks actually do help minimize the spread of covid19They both told me that I should trust the CDC and when I told them that the CDC was lying they did not believe me|1 Florida Lets cancel events Arizona No need to cancel events This virus smacks of politics all over it Its a mess|0 To win a fight you need to know who you are fighting|0 But some of those workers were positive|1 I dont trust any of them explicitly I like to read all of them and try and discern the truth which I realize is likely a futile effort|0 The Spanish Flu was just a cold too It lasted almost 3 years infected 500 million people worldwide and the death count is believed to have been at least 50 million Your ignorance is dangerous httpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources1918pandemich1n1html|0 No itll be America Over Virus Very Yes|1 Thats why they call it PataGucchi But seriously good on them|1 This is not my idea I saw someone else on this subreddit talking about the quarantine itself maybe to blame Normally the virus spreads somewhat slowly but when you lock everyone together in a confined area it becomes a bigger problem in theory|0 I ordered masks from Home Depot in late Feb Arrived in a few days no problem|0 Ive been saying this all week We have the same problem in Louisiana I spoke to Reuters and local news channels Glad our gov stopped denying and admitted we have a problem Thats the first step things hopefully move fast now|0 kudos to china for their draconian but seemingly effective way of enforcing self isolation after their initial fuck up|0 Yes but because we have been so lax about testing the elderly will die and we wont even know it was from the virus|0 Thats not the real issue The real issue is that companies have taken on mountains of debt since debt was virtually free They financed the debt by issuing more debt Rolling over their bonds Much of it was squandered on stock buybacks making share holders richNow the debt risks being downgraded even Boeing debt is going to be downrated to junk bonds Yields will skyrocket That means they can no longer roll over their debt especially with dwindling revenues Countless companies are going to go bankrupt Even if the government wanted to it cant save them all Nor should it imo If airlines go bankrupt its primarily the shareholders who lose The same shareholders who have been cashing in on free loans for over a decade without ever thinking twice The planes wont get destroyed ifwhen demand for airtravel takes off again someone will put them in service I see no reason to save the airlines or rather their shareholdersBut the problem doesnt end there Banks and pension funds own those bonds and shares If they go to zero and many of them will then the shit really hits the fan|0 The Future by Leonard Cohen Its like he predicted these times|1 Honestly the next 21 days and thats if they let any information outIm hoping that they do but you know the drill|1 What im saying is if you home bacause of the hospitals being filled up and you need ventilation Can a CPAP save your life and ventilate you|1 Im already expecting that not only will they not quarantine nurses who are exposed at my hospital but that theyll also end up implementing mandatory overtime Theres a finite number of staff if staff are too sick to work someone has to step in and fill that role There will be healthcare providers in the US who get sick thats the nature of our line of work This wont be good with the huge increase in the number of patients we will seeTheres not enough PPE Weve already been told to conserve masks If shit hits the fan and I dont have proper PPE then Im not going into work Lots of other nurses feel the same way Its not worth risking my life I KNOW I will be exposed to it and I know my hospital isnt prepared Ive prepped for my family and we will stay inside But when staff are too scared to come into work because we have no PPE then what Itll all spiral downwards|0 There are a lot of smokers everywhere so I dont see people getting much comfort from your commentAlso how long do you have to quit for your ACE2s to go back to normal I quit smoking 5 years ago Does that mean Im back to normal risk or am I still elevated despite not smoking any more|1 All my classes from friday are going to be online Free school meal students are going to have their stuff transfered into their bank accounts so they can still afford food The school grounds will be open and there will be a few teachers on the premesis to manage the library and stuff Theyve made their mind up already without the government|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 certified cases going to workI dont think this is true Everyone I know has to go to work today Its up to employers to close shop and many are choosing not to do so If they dont close you dont get exempt from going to work|1 Good points Itll be interesting to see more data when other super spreader events are documented A parent at our elementary school was just diagnosed with covid19 Stay safe out there|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Happy to help since I seem to spend quite a lot of tome here|1 Why cant you take mask home and spray it down hard with disenfect and then put out in the sun Or fucking microwave it|0 So what Thats minimal Less than 1 of the population Better that than half the nation out of work or housing|1 Not a waste use the money over the next few weeks that you would have spent on food anyways and replace the 100 you spentAlso if youre in the US youre getting MREs Our government can only give out a finite amount of MREs and water bottles once those run out youre on your own|1 The problem with this mindset and everything you and others who are hoping for the worst are saying is this If it doesnt take off in Japan Canada or Singapore like Im guessing it will If 10000 new cases pop up in Japan and Singapore by wednesday many here will say See I told you Were in for it now Meanwhile virologists and experts on from around the globe say its to be expected and very likely that the death rate from the aftermath of all this will be markedly lower than 23 and that at best this is a situation of Wash your hands more On the other hand if it just creeps up very slowly everyone will just point to a new location and use that as the barometer or they will just say Fake news they are hiding stuff from us There is no winning in communities addicted to fear|0 Negative This isnt alarmist in the slightest You can stay in denial for a week or two but youll understand by the end of the month|0 Those sanitizing measures are so extreme boil all the water you drink Put utensils in boiling water for 30 minutesAlso the implied threat they dont even hint at it everyone just knows I guessPretty sparse on the medical treatment aspect as well wonder what the gold standard is|0 Youre not a good person|0 Yes I agree|1 Better Mortality rates|1 Truth be told no one knowsDoes this last 6 months or 6 years Does a vaccine work or will it fail or make it worse or will it mutate so fast that its useless Do resource wars spark up because of thisI work in the ag industry Most of the ag chemicals are made in china and if those factories stay shut down you could have some severe food shortages and crop failures Oddly enough this whole trade war deal with China has left us with a large grain surplus in this country so that may he beneficial in the short term|0 I dont think Disney is taking things seriously In a months time if the numbers are as bad as the globe combined in the US They will all point to this as to one of several reasons why South Korea had only 1 patient Patient 31 who restarted the spread by violating isolation and caused in huge numbers of infected after they had it under control|0 Its like drunk drivers causing car accidents How many times do you hear stories of one of them killing a car full of other people while they walk away with minimal injuries|0 I never had any faith to begin with but watching him call Inslee a snake really didnt sit well with me Something about sitting in Seattle knowing we have thousands of cases and the whole place is about to go to hell|0 Maybe you thought that Plenty of people were warning about Hillary being a terrible candidate But doesnt matter now|0 Soooonot even preventive action Wtf This may get worse than China from the way everything us looking Fucking hell|0 Feeding employees for 100 a day Jesus no wonder anything made by a corporation is so expensive|0 Even worse can you imagine having to quarantine with someone that you just found out cheated on you Yikes|0 Does hiding the disease and traveling outside knowing that u have the virus also count as the Chinese culture Very selfish people|0 theyve got beautiful tests beautifully bad D hands you his 2nd crash helmet buckle up|1 While its community spreading in California now its business as usual No plans or communications from local governments|0 Depends on who she is traveling with My girlfriend was pulled aside into secondary and had her bag searched and swabbed while I simply was put to the side to watch as they didnt check any of my stuff Actually come to think of it several of my girlfriends have had that happen and they are all innocent looking types|1 I hope they get told to eff off by everyone who hears about it and by the judge if they make good their threats|1 I know I know I am just lamenting that my governor that checks all proper boxes and chances are she is a wonderful human being is watching the waves recede while singing liberal platitudes|1 I also made a post with analysis of the data outside of Hubei based on John Hopkins daily updated data Showed the virus spread outside of Hubei is slowing to a crawl Post deleted by the mods No response form any of them Either the workload is too much now or theres an alternative agenda here|0 Highly doubt anyone with coronavirus would be considered stabilized or released from quarantine before they recovered|0 That sounds amazing I want that so bad|1 Haha yeah I was just shitposting and mocking OPs comment about how this could be something other than the proven outbreak of a virus thats known to decimate the elderly Its scary how people choose to believe in illogical ideas and conspiracies when you cant get a more black and white example of being slapped in the face with reality|0 No Im talking about Canada We have only VERY recently started testing folks with symptoms who dont have a direct travel link to a very few countriesThats why the number of our cases is low and most of them are travel relatedOver this week we will see the number of community spread cases no travel link balloon like were seeing all over the world|0 Yes|1 so if I am getting right that virus was less lethal traveled slower but now mutated and is more dangerous|0 Absolutely But your telling me that the fact that there is a biolab currently working on Ebola and SARS in Wuhan and the outbreak started in Wuhan doesnt in the least bit seem suspicious to you|0 It really is like a B plague movie the worst things that could happen will|0 Lol now youre just acting like a kid Was any hospitals in Asia forced to closed down after they closed their schools How do you think they locked down the entire Italy Yeah right If the kids have parents working in medical area or even grocery stores then let 1 of the parents stay home if thats not possible send the kid to a relative still not Neighbor Still not Ask the government to set something up Stop thinking there are only 2 possible options to choose from and stop talking about minority cases like its the norm enforce their circumstance on the entire societyThink about it like this successfully containing the virus will lead to less patient requires less hospital staff Its common sense Leaving schools opened will make it worse because schools aint run by kids alone Not closing down schools because it wont have much impact is the same thinking as not doing anything at all just hope for everything to pass by|1 Iran might really be the hardest hit at the moment when you take into account the lack of testing government coverup and the vulnerable state of its medical system The Iranian population is fairly young over half of its population is under 30 The reported figures place it 18000 cases behind Italy but the official figures are disputed by many international expertsThe problem is that many developing countries simply lack the infrastructure and resources to respond to the epidemic so the risk is that it will a higher percentage of people than in developed countries Younger people are not immune to the disease they have a better chance surviving COVID19 but if the number of infected becomes high enough it will still be devastating to a young population If that young population is already struggling to deal with other health crises like HIVAIDS or chronic malnutrition then they are also much more at risk than young people in Italy or France|0 thats exactly my problem foreign student in Sweden if I take a plane home I cant stay at my moms because shes at risk Ive got three other people I can go to but theyre all asthmatic so I dont want to travel and infect anyone My residence permit is coming to an end I was thinking of cycling back home that way I wont be in close contact with anyone but now Denmarks closed its border im stuck|0 Yeah he was on prime time last night|1 Straight to Valhalla He was a warrior and a hero Far better than me Thank god for him and people like him For all its shit humanity has its angels RIP brother|1 Thank you for taking the time to write this I hope we move to isolation to stem the flow Take care please|1 Thats right now as well that number will rise tomorrow the day after that and so on|1 Miami just cancelled Ultra Music Festival 5560k people per day x 3 days|1 VEGAN HERE TOO 3 I stocked up on beyond burgers from Costco a couple of packs of vegan hot dogs and some other frozen items for fun foods Not to eat every day but when Im sick of beans and rice at least I can go grill something I also got some boxed indian meals I got lentils to make dal and other curries Instead of relying on pastes and spices I got a few cans of simmer sauces to make things easy Canned goods I made sure to get were beans lentils soups I also got bouillon cubes to make my own broths tomatoes of different varieties some various vegetables and some canned pears Protein powder is a great solution for a quick meal or for a meal booster Buy plant milk that doesnt need to be refrigerated too I just grabbed tofu and threw it in my fridge and will freeze to make it last longer but Amazon also has nonperishable tofu MoriNu is a brand you can get in bulk The one thing Ive yet to purchase is frozen veggies I need to make a run before people go nutsThrive Market is a good place for online shopping for niche vegan items though it is expensive and I dont use it often I think theyre based in the US and I dont think their delivery service is facing interruptions at the momentMy other suggestion is to make food you like now that requires fresh ingredients and freeze it if possible Comfort meals are really important if you have to isolate for a bit I made my favorite pasta sauce and froze it for future use|1 So I guess they are ignoring all the accounts from people in different countries affected by the virus So basically 100 countries are working together to create this hoax just to make Trump look bad Jesus|0 The virus 14 day incubation is spread by asymptomatic carriers How the fuck would you know if youve got it when you dont have symptomsThats why you should wear a maskChrist use your fucking heads people|0 Carnival Cruise lines probably could have saved their stock price by being proactive and cancelling all cruises instead of offering deep discounts They should have laid everyone off and went cash gang until this passes|1 OK I understand where your coming from respectfully however does that not mean that the business plan was flawed or inefficient if it cannot afford sick pay or gradual increase in wages Is 725 too high as it stands to operate the business or should it be decreased to 225 or 150 The story has been the same for years on end productivity has increased proficiency has increased technology has become more costeffective to use and invest but wages and sick pay are always what businesses cannot afford|1 Started using reddit regularly a few months ago great decision I made|1 Pokemon Staythe fuck home|0 The window of opportunity has been sealed shut with concrete and welded over|1 They clearly have not watched the new Tomb Raider movie|1 Thank you for providing all of this info i appreciate it so much i think a lot of us will please stay safe|1 Didnt even think to check there Thank you|1 I think it would be based on acuity age and believed survivability and if that is what you are asking then Yes i believe if the famous person needed the bed more then they would get the bed If not then they would not its all based on need|1 Just done mine good shout|1 Yeah I agree with him people probably just downvoted cuz it has a lot of other downvotes|1 Whats the instance that tries to buy it We need to know the enemy of humanity|0 As far as I understand it DNA is like a footprint so they can trace it pretty finely either using science or even just data I know they can trace the specific West Nile strains to very specific times and places LineageI also remember the anthrax attacks was a specific strain traced to a lab It goes into the strain of the virus but also even how the virus is coated etc being unique to each countrymaker They probably cant say Joe made it on this date on this shift but they can for sure trace the line back to where it came from if they get all the data|1 I work in an art gallery on Fishermans Wharf in San Francisco and Im scared every day that I have to talk to people from all over the world When someone coughs I step back but my bosses have not mentioned a plan for those of us who talk to hundreds of people every day Its scary at what point does one put their health above their economic security|0 Oh dang Ive been there Im sorry fast food workers have a hard time even taking unpaid time off in my experience Take care|1 Anytime someone throws but all the flu deaths in the US at me I cant help but think this How many of those deaths were unnecessary because they held off from seeking med attention because it was too expensive|0 Im not sure which ones worse the boris johnson sing happy birthday twice while washing your hands or just letting it spread which would kill hundreds of thousands of people so some people can become immune|0 We need to calm down Panicking when things are still within your control doesnt make a whole lot of sense Take what the authorities are telling you with a grain of salt Do your own research make your own assesments and make your own plans to see you through Coming on a public forum such as reddit making outlandish statements and seeking validation of your trainwreck comments doesnt help anyone including your self|0 Damn you a hero|1 I have yet to see any sources on that only ones that say a 2yearold was admitted to hospital in Malaysiahttpswwwnstcommynewsnation2020015595843coronaviruscasesmalaysiainclude2yearoldboy At the moment it seems that the youngest infection is currently a 9montholdhttpswwwnytimescom20200126worldchinacoronavirushtml and the youngest death is a 36yearold with no known preexisting conditionshttpswwwnytimescom20200124worldasiachinacoronavirushtml|0 Thats not about nationalism Italians tend to have a strong sense of community when it comes to their own citytown Its due to italians heritage of citystates but somewhere it traces back to the preroman culture as wellNow I dont know about the US but for all reddit has taught me americans tend to be extremely divided between classes be it economical social racial etc|1 Finally theyve told the truth|1 The difference is if the normal person was negative they miss work for 14 days unnecessarily and never get a test|0 Maybe if people close to Trump get infected with COVID19 he would take it more seriously I feel he only cares how if effects about the stock market and his reelection chances|0 Warping or no warping|0 Badass|0 I was thinking about this yesterday Poor teenager or beyondretirementager having to check out stressed out people less than six feet away from them at the grocery store while being exposed to more unique individuals than probably 99 of the rest of us If anyone is gonna get sick it will be those people|0 That story made me laugh|1 There will be a few more though probably in the next 24 hours there So they may all be right honestly|1 Because we still have to pour your coffeemake your drinkhand you your pastrygranola barwhatever then take your cash and repeat for hours We wash our hands regularly but that mixing of tasks is a risk pointWhether you like it or not what ends up happening is that the person at the point of sale also does food prephandling and the volume means we cant wash our hands in between transactions We also wouldnt have any skin leftWe are capable of spreading it while asymptomatic so we are endangering our coworkers by working in close quarters with them Please try to think about the experience beyond getting handed a latteAdditionally they are keeping cafe no drivethrough stores open for walk up ordering so in correction to your assumption its not only drive through|1 Dont insult rocks like that|1 What do you think is the best way or ways to share this More posts on reddit Sending it to friends and family I feel like it takes a certain openness and mentality to be able to digest and to accept that there seems to be a literal medical war against this disease going on over there Im not sure some of my older relatives or friends could handle this emotionally even or especially ones in medicine Im open to suggestions just dont know what to do|1 Source Thats fascinating|1 In progress That means the deaths lag up to a month|1 Not sure why youre getting downvoted except for maybe the opportunistic part Hawley has no background in any medical field at all|0 I hope your parents are well to do because that makes no sense|1 That was my first thought Working in a nonISP data center environment weve been optionally allowed to work from home prior to this and it is now mandatory for nearly everyone except missioncritical onsite staffIf this many employees are voicing their concerns at Charter theres clearly something wrong And if theyre ready to put it all on the line for the greater good maybe its time to go on strike Let the second largest cable ISP in the US go offline and see how long before they come to the table and are willing to change their draconian policies during this crisis Im not being sarcastic when I say that Ive said for years that this industry that chews you up burns you out then spits you out has been ripe and overdue for labor organization This is the time to use that leverageAs huge swaths of the US have been under the thumb of Charters monopoly on internet service that the company its predecessors and its industry peers lobbied and paid to maintain for decades sending hundreds of thousands of forced workfromhome employees offline would compel Charter to capitulate Thousands of other businesses would be affected and those businesses often use Charters services for their own data centers offices and remote sites The pressure to get everybody back online from those companies and keep the business revenues flowing for everybody would leave Charter with no other choiceDont forget Tom Rutledge is the highest paid CEO in the UShttpsmoneycomhighestpaidceothomasrutledgecharter and has been for years Theres a reason for that Its on the backs of every overcharged customer who has no other ISP in their neighborhood and every employee who has been forced to go into a Charter office during this health crisis|0 Most are under partial lockdown or no lockdown where they can go out every 2 or 3 days to buy food Those under total lockdown have food delivered to them If that fails they die or break the law and escape Nobody is completely welded in its secondary doors that bypass checkpoints that are welded|0 Cashiers here in Montral is starting to wear gloves and I also think that this little act of precaution helps|1 Frightening|0 What the fuck are you taking about dont reduce fever|0 They better use this new information fast cause things are not loking good|1 Southern Ohio here Just north of Cincinnati Literally everything i get from amazon comes NKY at their center I havent ordered anything from amazon recently and i dont plan to but this virus is closing in on us here in Ohio|1 I so support this I just cant draw at all |1 What is the point of your rudeness Please be civil when you post|0 Wow but its no surprise his base think they are the center of the earth Every living being is after their great leader|1 If I had just a little more time I would have brought her to my house and used hospice We took my Gramps home after his stroke and my Mom was home when she passed Both with hospice really good experiences both times|1 Happens Im also sure that once the basics are worked out that the program could be expanded to test more people|1 This right here Got into an argument with my aunt that Trump wasnt going to have a vaccine ready by the end of the month Yes you read that correctly|1 Yes that definitely puts those numbers into perspective Very heartening news then Godspeed to the Chinese people and lets hope theyll keep rising in the following days|1 By my math youre more spot on Most people think Im crazy but hey lets just hope were wrong|0 True Someone with the inclination and skills should post an interior pic of a packed airplane with the orange suspected case icon covering every face but oneand maybe that is the one with the word bubble asking Is it still safe to travel|1 ETABiden just did as well Bernie Sanders Joe Biden Cancel Cleveland Rallies Over Coronavirus ConcernshttpstwittercomMediaitestatus1237480108442750979s20Good on him great example Hope Biden does likewiseTime to lead theres an existential orange hole in the WH|1 True There are lots of changes we can make Certainly there are people who have to go to work But quite a few people can telework Schools can offer online classesPlaces of worship should close for the time being Events should be canceled or postponedI can certainly exercise at home instead of going to the gym and go to a grocery store less frequently|1 Yes New cases now mean new cases of hospitalised patients ie more severe critical cases|0 Good on them Class move Times|1 Hes probably talking about the second wave of the spanish flu which was much more deadly than the first|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 FINALLY fuck|0 How are you better off Your officials are saying that they want to let this run its course to give you some form of herd immunity Then again Im fairly sure I was reading about Ireland but even if that is the case youre still fucked|0 Hazard pay for all this madness would be a good start lol|1 It sure is in February They average temps between 2 and 10 Celsius|1 The cdc says theres between 9million to 45 million flu cases a year if ncov2019 had that many cases it sure would have a lot more death recorded|0 Yup And they are trying to hold off the inevitable and keep the majority oblivious as long as possible You would be amazed how many people still have zero clue what is really going on with coronavirus smh|1 On the anonymous video they said the Vatican declined to say what he had But he looked out of it If he goes down then people going to freak|0 I mean none of us can say any of this with certainty Its completely possible air quality etcetera affects survival and its also possible it doesnt We are unlikely to know for a long time And the possibility that it does not as well as trying to reduce spread to higherrisk people makes evidencebased caution worthwhile But about all I can say for sure is that how dangerous nCoV is independent of how dangerous the flu is and vice versa That said this is generally solid life advice whatever else is going on in the world|0 Exactly All the undue focus these tinfoilers put on the CPC is hilarious Totalitarian bureaucracies learn the lay of the land from our glowingly democratic apparatuses and then they perfect those tricks into the monstrous forms required by conditions of scarcity known only to the formercolonial worldWhen our governments need to hide things from us which is all the time they do The only difference is how blatant it is at least people in totalitarian countries are pretty uniformly aware of what they are being lied to about and what the lies are about in totalitarian countries its everything whereas in the rich countries its just most things|0 And the President met with pharmaceutical company execs who are working on a vaccine He asked them if we could use the flu shot to fight the Corona virus|0 this is the part in movies when we should worry right |0 Escaping to their bunkers obviously|1 sorry ive been on the phone with the US embassy and state departments coronavirus hotline Heres the email they senthttpsimgurcomH4ghdmz|0 What I read about the cases in China was that fecal swabs were still positive after various mucus related swabs were negative so the virus was still residing in other parts of the body No clue about the veracity of that story Everything changes from day to day|0 Also what if these asymptomatic folks end up getting sick in another 4 to 6 weeks What if just takes a really long time to brew in some folks|0 Even in a quarantine community spread will happen People will get sick People will be in the ICU taking up ventilators But not all at once The idea is that Everyone or a substantial will get sick but at a slower pace since the more stringent the quarantine the slower community spread happens|0 why does this not have the tag good news|1 I hear you I was in exactly the same situation The clinic I worked at is still open We ramped up hygiene as much as we could but I still dont think thats enough Even close just close contact for over 20 minutes is enough and we cant force the patients to wear masks either It sounds like youve done the right thing by staying away Best of luck in the future|1 Im in and out at stores now no more than 35 items and i have to carry what i take I refuse to use a cartbasket If i need more than that ill make 2 quick trips inoutBut then i see everyone else shopping like its just any other day just buying more stuff|0 Very wtf why are we not building hospitals treatment tents or something|0 Thank you Im so interested to learn about how Italians are handling this My heart goes out to you Italy|1 Thats what I think As far as I can tell thats what were bring told Dont worry even tho its in your community risk is low Continue consuming Continue working|0 Our entire Cincinnati office has been in Seattle for the week Coming home tomorrowSo stupid Im going to self quarantine|0 It is not just young people Its the codgers themselvesLook at that Grand Princess drama marinating off Oakland All these old people facetiming about how their spirits are still up but theyre kinda bummed about having to go to Travis AFB Well it was damned avoidable for taxpayers to have to pay CG Port of Oakland all these various vendorsemployees to get their whiny asses off the boat when it was well known Diamond Princess was an issue when they got onI have seen within the past month retirees on SOs side of the family jet off to some friends daughters genderreveal party because she has a want to feel like a greatgrandma because her kids didnt give her grandchildren Their husband is still petting cats at a Humane Society because well they need to feel WANTED even though it is putting the livelihoods of sometimes their own children at risk let alone the animals and NO ONE is stepping up|1 Better yet just let people spread deadly diseases because profits|1 This virus is China proprietary material no one else can profit from it|1 I think Im the beginning he coughed but king of swallowed it There was a weird sound and a short pause|0 Please do not postcomment links to other unrealiable subreddits You can check out our trusted sister subreddit repidemic and rcoronavirusI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Masks dont work if the users are fucking morons People with a hint of common sense should be able to use them effectively Saying that only health care people would know how to use them correctly is ridiculous but then I remember how many idiots there are|1 What pisses me off about websites asking me to turn off Adblock is I turn it off refresh the page and Im greeted with We NoTiCeD yOuRe UsInG aN aDbLoCk PlEaSe TuRn iT oFf I just did now Im even more pissed|0 Wow very smart|1 Yes most bars and restaurants are closed forgot to mention But still can find something open around|1 Yes I am an American in Colorado and people here are not worried about it I am waiting for panic shopping to kick in and it hasnt Denver International is a VERY large and busy airport not to mention where I live in Colorado Springs there is a lot of travel here both business and tourism Its really only a matter of time and I feel like most people here believe that since we are not on the coast that it wont be a problem|1 Hes an imbecile but the true idiots are the ones who voted for him Hes just representing the stupid citizens|0 More like a big beautiful Wall Street|1 Right I have a baby and toddler at home I have a feeling that society would be acting a loooot differently if kids didnt take this so well|1 Hawaii needs its own testing facility in light of the infected Japanese tourist For now Id imagine they will send the samples from hi to LA|0 Just got back from a major city in China and found less places excepting non Union Pay credit cards compared to about a year ago|1 There is no reason why northern American cities will not behave like Wuhan There are 0 measures taken to reduce R0 The weather is warmer in Southern States so the R0 might be less than 1 or barely above 1 Texas might be too hot for the virus to spread fast|0 This is dumb that we have 0 test out there Other countries are putting us to shame|0 I live in Taiwan Weve already been through like everything such as school closures and TP shortages Both are over rn|1 Because they dont care about us and only care about money Whenever an event is cancelled people are losing a lot of money|0 Should only be for those who file taxes Anyone on welfare or any other government assistance should not get this money We dont need to come out of this in crippling debt just so lazy people can have a can of chili|0 While Bild is really the opposite of a reliable source this 6070 number has also been voiced by Prof Dr Drosten on national TV He is one of the global leading Covid19 experts Merkel is simply sharing the numbers she got from the leading scientists hereSo we have here communication as it should beScientists Chancellor Mass Media without any major distortion While we all tend to think Bild is on the same level as FOX the former is on the side of facts here|1 Be careful with these suggestions Alcohol strips the invisible coating from your screen so it will be covered with grease smudges and fingerprints which youll have to wipe every time you want to enjoy a video|1 I have a hunch Trump is wrong|0 If this does prove to be true I really dont get why this information isnt being shared openly and freely with the rest of the international community Seems crazy to minimally publicise observations like thisThey might have enough information to go be careful about this to their own people but not enough to give an academic proof|1 Everyone needs to stay where they are For a month Not everyone can do that but thats how we beat this thing Everyone stay right where you are Work home mall whatever Maybe try to get home Home should be the only suitable destination for anyone right now Stay there until the worlds scientists can get to the bottom of this fiasco|0 This is huge Good for them|1 You really think that number reflect the reality Thats the number of confirmed case They never tested the dead people that died by pneumonia or people quarantined that recovered by themselves|1 I work at a very busy grocery store in Seattle and me and everyone I work with are pretty concerned about the constant flow of customers that we see We are all worried to death about getting sick from all the people that are coming to our work to stock up|0 Yeah Im not a big fan of southern Sweden but the north is wonderful and calm|1 Its shortterm conditional licensing This means they are not conceding the claim to the intellectual property and can still dictate at some future point that the licenses be revoked expired or put up under different termsIt isnt explicit but this might mean in August a license will suddenly cost 500 million 2 of profits Or disappear altogether Plus they are moving forward with the lawsuit against the original groupAlso not an IP lawyer but I am finishing a PhD in a field that uses pharmaceutical patents|1 Japan is still hoping to not affect the Olympics|1 The virologists have been known to strike quickly and without warning|1 Its not just the smoking Its also the high level of exposure to pollution equivalent to smoking That is really really harmful to the lungs in any context and apparently it does technically increase ACE2 expression in the lungs I remember seeing this article years and years agohttpswwwsciencemagorgnews201804rooftopsensorsusembassiesarewarningworldaboutcrazybadairpollutionThe programming of the bot watching the weather station on top of the US embassy in Beijing tweeted that the PM25 was crazy bad and it caused a minor diplomatic incident The thing is PM25 above 500 is not just crazy bad Its like sealing your lips over an old Dodge pickups exhaust pipe and toking on it like a bong Even LA on a bad day was only 180 to 200ish and my native Seattle averages like 30 on most days 80 and above you can really smell it 500 PM25 is insane Its chewable air When I saw that I was like how can they live like that What are the consequencesChronic longterm ailments and vulnerability to respiratory diseases Those are the consequences That said we should be thinking and acting as if we are equally vulnerable to them so the disease does not blindside us Proactive steps|0 Have we considered a sticky or a weekly megathread for good news posts I know for a lot of people seeing positive news about promising drug trials recovery rates lowerthanexpected fatalities etc helps a lot and it might be a really useful mental health resource to have a single place to check in to look for those|1 Shutting down the schools will do nothing Cases are hardly being spread via children almost every single one is from some dumbass traveling so you basically want to suspend school for 2 months on a lowrisk issue|0 RNA Slightly different strains Bet they dont want to give people THAT idea|0 And imagine if a bunch of people in US do get sick but because they dont have insurance avoid going to the doctor or hospital because they cant afford it and spread the virus to others Crazy Im sure if things pop off though that health care will be given so to avoid further infections|1 fatality rate can only calculated on exact registered infections and death on the same time the patients registered rest is speculations|0 was going to buy a Tesla but now I will buy another brand of electric car FU Elon|0 Dude at least help others download more RAM|1 Pick your evil I guess Be liberal muh freedom and you get Americans going out to huge blowout parties over the weekendOr risk social oppression with more control over the people and what they do but everything is orderly|1 A 97 million dollar grant was given by the National Cancer Institute to the University of Iowa Holden Cancer Center for a 5 year study for clinical studies to test high dose Vitamin C levels to see if Vitamin C is selectively toxic to cancer cells yet nontoxic to normal cells It is still being researched and outside of animal studies I have no references to site|0 The eurovision fandom are still discussing if it should be celebrated behind closed doors postponed or cancelled but almost no one thinks it will be done on time with public|0 Something crazy was if the hospitalization rate is 20 or 5 it only changes the hospital saturation date by 12 days one way or the other due to the exponential growth of spread|1 Im talking about masks not the wash your hands bullcrapIsnt wash your hands recommended now and masks are just if you have it to stop coughing on others Why is wash your hands bullcrap|0 I do cons and Renaissance Faires Ive lost my entire spring schedule including my biggest show which is 25 of my annual revenue I like many others have no idea what the fuck to do|0 Wasnt just me that thought he looked like he was bricking it then|1 Its not airborne so you should be fine When someone says it is they are referring to the fact that if someone were to cough or sneeze their respiratory droplets could stay in the air for up to three hours This has only been documented indoors with perfect conditions so it likely wouldnt apply outside with factors like wind heat humidity and sunlightx200BEDIT A space|1 Yeah this microscope is starting to give me back pain|0 Man how dare they think mainlanders uncivilizedThis is only the second global disease this century to come from our vermin mystery meat markets How can they be so unfair|0 Or it will show that humans are panicky and irrational|0 Hopefully something works|1 Im not eligible for unemployment as I am a subcontractor|1 nice|1 America is about to learn the meaning of exponential growth|1 He said there will be the possibility that Americans can come back provided they are tested negative Theres hope|0 In an ideal world but when I see a man in tesco cough into his had and then grab items off the shelves to then put it back on the shelf it worries me|0 Excellent question In the case of the new coronavirus the probable origin is the bat The 1300 species of bats harbor over 130 different viruses Because of their biology bats are excellent incubatorshttpswwwlabxchangeorglibrarypathwaylxpathwayc0ed81addd49461e99096f70e2762ce8 for viruses where they mutate and possibly become more virulent The new coronavirus SARSCoV2 genetically resembles the old SARS coronavirus to a great degree and the two are closely related Along with other coronaviruses in bats SARSCoV2 probably derives from older coronaviruses that have been in bats for generations Because bats have evolved to coexist with many viruses these viruses can be kept in giant bat colonies sometimes 1 million animals each with a lifespan of over 30 years over a long period of time It is not unlikely that new viruses are being incubated in bats that might jump over to humans in the future|1 You mean the heroes is a pornography site that facilitates sexual slavery heavy addiction to porn and masturbation and aids in abortions and contraceptions|0 I have a huge problem dealing with the absolute difference in approach from country to countryFrance where I live doesnt report the number of testing its estimated around 1000day the approach there I guess via Pasteur Institute was to test around clusters for a while and now they only do it to patients that need to be sent to the hospital A well known epidemiologist is annoyed that Macron closed schools because its too disruptive for workers and the economy Others scientists flat out dismissed South Koreas approach to broad testing since the very beginningIn the UK epidemiologists seem to encourage the strategy of herd immunity which sounds like sacrificing the elderly to meRight now Germany has decided to ramp up testing like many other countries Merkel has said she expects 70 of german population to get infected Still low casualtiesItaly has been trying to be very transparent about their numbers and has shifted to dramatic lockdowns like ChinaI dont know whats going on with SpainLets not talk about the mess in the USMeanwhile SK seems like the success story so far among the big onesAll that feels deeply fracturedReactive let it spread until a certain point healthcare capacity to hold and then mitigate UK France GermanyProactive track the virus down with aggressive testing from the very beginning SK HK Taiwan|1 Yes but dont expect to change the mind of the armchair physicians of Reddit |1 Yeah the idea that only old people can get health problems is plain idiotic Ive had chronic health problems for the past 35 years and I get this stupid crap all the time about how I cant have health problems because Im youngGuess along with gender race religion and caste we can add the privilege of being old so that your health problems can be declared validIronically ageism but discriminatory against some young people|0 Seriously South Korea has drivethrough testing stations the US is just at Chernobyl levels of systemic mismanagement|0 thank you |1 Thank You Satan|1 I think youre confusing him with Zuckerberg |0 This post is fundamentally wrong C diff is a bacteria that is resistant to alcohol based hand sanitizer and requires a 5 minute contact time with bleach for it to be killed Secondly bacteria can develop resistance to everything look at the Archaea domainkingdomwhatever its classified as since I graduated undergrad Lastly I never said anything about hand sanitizer|0 Laughs in European|1 China is fascist to a T It earns a gold in every category What are you thinking of that doesnt fit|0 People dont have to like it That I can understand The misinformation is the claim that AMP only benefits Google The fact that others use AMP is precisely the point AMP is open source and governed by community It is no longer just Googles AMP The reason AMP was developed was because people were turning away from mobile web pages and towards apps such as Apple News or closed platforms such as Facebook Instant Articles AMP set limits and provided tools to help publishers make fast mobile web pages for the open web The complaints mostly involve how AMP links in Google search on mobile work especially for iOS Safari users Those complaints are fine Dragging misinformation into the mix is not|0 But big quarantines could also directly cause tens of thousands of deaths per country by reducing peoples access to food and regular health care without doing much to slow the spread of the virus I know that theres a lot of fake news out there but I think that it sounds as if the quarantines themselves could have already killed about 1000 people in Wuhan Basically one out of every 1000 frail isolated old people in the Wuhan region have have probably starved to death or died of something other than the coronavirus due to quarantine stress If we want to have safe quarantines elsewhere that will take a lot of money and planning|0 Can the virus suspend on the air It is more contagious in water droplets But what about aerosol transmission|0 Eh fuck you faster go quarantine yourself la|0 But obese people are less likely to die of pneumonia than normal weight patientshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4673885S15title|0 Thank you for saying this People in this thread are acting like since they have to go to work theyre going to ignore the whole point Even if people can just skip social events eat at home more minimize trips to the grocery store etc itll cut down on contact and at least slow the spread of the virus|1 Ok although the epidemiologist in me is screaming we need to lock down now there is something to be said for delay An element of inoculation of the population by exposure will limit somewhat a second wave and will result in a flattened logistic curve Judging when to act is a bit trickier than it looks Doesnt feel like it but there may be some sanity in the decision The fact that he is a useless twat is an independant variable|0 Cant read the whole article I swear someday only the rich will be able to read any fucking news|1 I understand that people use humor to face tough times but these memes are borderline offensive Cant scroll FB for 5 seconds without seeing a Coronavirus meme or political add meant to cause controversy in the comments Go to FB to laugh bicker some to Reddit to educate unite Just so obvious that the multitude still isnt taking this very seriously|0 Thanks obaMa|1 Not necessarily they just keep seeing it out of stock so they load up as soon as its in thinking its a rare commodity its not lol No one wants to be caught with their pants down Or they are the assholes wanting to make a profit off of it|0 Congrats on your new baby Honestly you are in the best situation right now An excuse to limit social contacts that no one will side eye Also much better that baby is here my worry for friends who are expecting is that hospitals will be so overrun with Corona patients that they wont be able to deliver in a hospital Scary My husband and I were planning to TTC late this summer but Ive pretty much decided well be putting that off until there is a vaccine for this worried about the likely second wave this fall Good luck mama|1 For those who cant read those characters it says I think we should use special characters then foreigners would have no idea what were saying Please dont stop bullshiting do it moreDude can you stop being crazy or something|1 I do have parents whos going to feed themWhenever you are an hourly worker you have to go to work whenever youre sick Ill live outside Maybe you Millennials dont understand that but whenever you dont have Rich relatives you have to work regardless Ive had to work with double pneumonia in the past Ill have to do it this time too|0 Supply lines are going to be interrupted there is no doubt about that What happens when meat packaging workers start coming down with the flu transmitting the virus to packaged meat products Vegetable pickers transmitting the virus to fruits and vegetables Dont be naive be prepared|0 They have been out of stock on Amazon since beginning of February I dont know where you can buy them currently|1 They most certainly are Idk if its fear inspired delusion or pure ignorance but these folks living in a bubble of false security are in for a shock|0 I really hope youre right friend|1 and if its that bad here imagine in the US where theyre still not testing much Drives me crazy that CNN and others keep saying things like 2500 cases in US as if thats an accurate number|0 I disagree their plan could work better to save livesOld people are the one who die It makes sense to limit the lockdown to them so young people can gain immunityIt will shorten the length of epidemic thus decrease the risk for old people because even in lockdown you can catch it so the shorter the better|1 ITs jUsT ThE flU|0 What How am I supposed to help someone on the other end of the world if I cannot get out of the house safely right now Please listen to yourself|1 You my friend are a hero|1 Well youre on a forum surrounded by people that are equally concerned about the Wuhan fluTry not to overload at the moment not much new is emerging on the virus its just the numbers going up in countriesTry to take an afternoon off checking Reddit etc and do something Watch a film play a game cook a big meal etc|1 its the same case here in shandong province China tend to apply the same policy across the spectrum but I cannot complain given the gravitas of the status quo|1 Its a trap|0 Would psuedoephedrine or other decongestants be helpful against the pneumonia and other lung symptoms of Covid19|1 Exactly right There is a great explanation on this page that supports your point The correct formula therefore would appear to beCFR deaths at dayx cases at dayxT where T average time period from case confirmation to deathThis would constitute a fair attempt to use values for cases and deaths belonging to the same group of patientsAlternatively CFR deaths deaths recoveredwhich with the latest data availablehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus would be equal to2122 2122 15893 12 CFR worldwideWorldometer How to Correctly Calculate CFRhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathratecorrect|1 Agreed This can happen to people in any income bracket save the top 5 and the 1 unless theyre already strapped for cash|1 Yes and a lot of them have very high cost of living As they go up the ranks and earn more their spending rises accordingly eg upgrading cars bigger homes branded bags shoes clothes etc expensive wine dine vacations rich people outings like on yachts and stuffSource social media posts by some acquaintances of mine|1 Just wanted to say thanks for that sobering set of numbers Im not that worried had asthma pretty badly in childhood but OTOH I smoked Camels for several years and didnt keel over choking but my elderly relatives yeah not great newsI suppose the other question is based on whats known about the other coronaviruses what the odds are of it becoming more virulent by mutation I hope theyre low but dont know nearly enough to speculate|0 Things are getting serious so fast and everythings changing so fast Its scary how left in the dark we all are about this|0 Yeah the 250k figure came from their best case scenario which assumes the government flattens the curve as much as possible to keep pressure off the NHS Theres also a range of projectionshttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdf|1 I didnt mean that it was going to be a 5 increase It was an example number Any unemployment increase is going to affect stock prices|1 No sadly I didnt even think about it|0 That is not true I have a close friend who got tested several days ago in Alberta just because she was sick She had not travelled out of province Please do not spread fake news It is dangerous and irresponsible This is serious shit|0 damn what caused that|0 I dont think it is his assessment or that it is based on anything else except he sees that this is going to turn on them If they thought for a second 250k Americans could die and yet they could cast Democrats as being hysterical they would do it in a heartbeat|0 Meh kids arent famous we only test the really rich and famous here|1 I cant fix your circumstance but I am so sorry that youre caught in this position right now This is something that these countries need to remedy and quickly so that even if you are trapped there you have some sort of support Hang in there|0 From your own source Although there is sufficient scientific evidence on the beneficial effects of garlic as therapy under different pathological conditions in animal models human clinical studies are scarce and methodologically weak with short duration and a reduced number of patients Therefore it is mandatory to establish general criteria to finally probe the variety of nutritional and healthpromoting properties of garlic|1 DefenestrationDefenestration from Old French fenestre inherited from Latin fenestra is the act of throwing someone or something out of a windowThe term was coined around the time of an incident in Prague Castle in the year 1618 which became the spark that started the Thirty Years War This was done in good Bohemian style this referred to the defenestration which had occurred in Pragues City Hall almost 200 years earlier July 1419 which also on that occasion led to war the Hussite war The word comes from the New Latin de down from and fenestra window or opening PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Or the virus being overlooked because it looks like the flu I hope they start testing all pneumonia cases|1 Oh shit dont get me wrong man Im not from the US I come from a country with a highly ranked public healthcare system But Canada and ScandinavianEU countries have always seemed more efficient from a distance|1 I already do this with my Iphone out of good practice so how could wiping it down not be good|1 Slovenian here We just went on a lock down Everything is gomma be closed for atleast 2 weeks Streets are empty Numbers still rising StayHome|0 Heynot all of us are without critical th8nking skills I wore a mask to the bank and everyone looked at me One old acquaintance asked if I was feeling sick Unfortunately Im going a little dead so I didnt ear her and answer her but I wouldve Afterwards I realized the best answer isnt about my familymy daughter with strider or my other daughter who always gets so sick with everythingno its best to just say this bc you wont get a ton of questions about your family this making the conversation longsay IYoure doing it for the old man down the road who is diabeticor even better you just inspired thisIm doing it for the nurse that I know so if I get it she might still be ok and working problem is even if they wanted a mask they arent available Can you write a letter to editor explaining all thisor somehow get this info out to your local public so they see the danger and the need for your hospital to change their procedureslike today|1 Dont forget that European healthcare is generally cheaper than the US even without external health insurance and most EU countries And we get paid leave So when people are ill they usually stay home In the US you tend to keep working as long as you can because you cant afford to stop working or to go and see a doctor|0 Using sanitizer and not being gross are just good habits in general too they should stay for sure The media likes to pick the scariest sounding quotes as it gets clicks but look at SK and China for a reasonable measure|1 The immunoassay measures antibodies against the virus circulating in blood They take many days from the time of infection to appear In effect the test detects whether the human immune system has encountered the virus The PCR test detects the genetic material of the virus itself The PCR test is effective earlier in the infection which can be critical in this case since we know that the virus can be transmitted before the symptoms appearThat said the immunoassay can obviously be a useful confirmation for people who have symptoms and are in selfquarantine already Then they could know its coronavirus as opposed to another infection|1 And our patient 31 doesnt know they are infected because no one will test them|0 Toronto School break for private school started on Friday 2 weeks Public school is next weekBy the way what I meant is by the end of March break no by the end of March Sorry|0 Maybe Im assuminghoping they have the most intelligent people trying to figure out the answer to this particular question I sure as hell dont know If a crash is imminent which it was already going that route before this would a slow burn be better Its the same situation we had in 2008 that should have lead to a Great Depression Instead they slow burned it and continue to do so But thats a burn for over 10 yearswhen we think slow burn I dont think most of us ever expected to do it this long But they did Maybe they are slow burning until summer and hoping the humidity calms it down I have literally no idea and dont pretend to know Just going to be suspicious and prepared I guess|1 Just go to share and copy link or tap the gifycat next to ops name|1 will only be sending what they know they dont needEvery single mask is still needed back in China With the current production capacity of over 100 million masks per day theres still a daily gap of about 400 million masks to fully recover the economy Data source httpsbaijiahaobaiducomsid1660208310554066318wfrspiderforpchttpsbaijiahaobaiducomsid1660208310554066318wfrspiderforpcChina couldve focus on only itself considering how the west was wasting time literally just sitting there waitting for the outbreak of coronavirus and still as always couldnt resist criticising Chinas underdeveloped health care system and brutal lockdown of Wuhan while bragging about how the developed worlds gonna conquer the coronavirus in a blink of eye should there be an outbreak in their own countries|0 Its ridiculous but also its about making money Elsevier and the big publishers have a profit margin similar to Apple and Amazon Open access is the way to go Many of these papers would be available in say institutional repositories after an embargo say a year but obviously here they are free to access now Its an interesting time for academic publishing I work in scholarly comms|1 I can understand some functions remaining but immediately following a post about taking sensible precautions by my SU they posted advertising the club night Sure why not shove 1000 drunk people in close proximity to one another I then have to interact with idiots who go to that as part of my job|1 You have good questions Other question to consider is how can the government let people die by allowing businesses to remain open There are no easy answers|0 so half the population shit|0 Im in a similar position with my brothers wedding I know my mum who I live with will be really mad at me if I dnt go|0 Thanks managed to read it by taking a screenshot and running it through Google translate Doesnt look like they particularly favour chloroquine over any other experimental treatment yet Good to know about the seven day limit though The general trend seems to be to make the window shorter|1 Thats good wish it was earlier but it is progress I suppose|1 Its such a breath of fresh air as Ohio doesnt seem like the state youd pick to be proactive|1 For a virus that can enter from your nose eyes and mouth if you wear a protection on 2 of those things its worthlessAlso it is scientifically proven that hand washing and mask wearing cannot be done at the same time So dont wear masks so you can wash your handss|1 There are doubts about their tests accuracy False negatives are a known problem It is currently used throughout the US and is used in Italy and it still has 46 hour testing time|0 no ive been thinking the same as much as possible i try to use the selfuse casher so I dont have to interact with anyone But other than that I just tell myself that if I get infected because of this were deep screwed already lol|0 The law that removed the need of a warrant didnt pass the vote they can still forcefully isolate test and treat you thoAnd we had 35 cases monday morning 90 at afternoon|1 Not at all the Chinese plan was all reactive and after they tried to cover it up first Also there is no comparison to the US and Chinese culture in terms of population density and hygiene Things work a lot differently in the US|0 Dont choose your job over your life too many people make that mistake|0 please dont|1 My roommate is still joining mass gatherings and traveling across the states While Im stocking up on everything avoiding human contact She looks at me like Im the one who is crazy|0 lol you guys are way better than any african country I was being sarcastic because people use the term first and third world country when talking about Developed Developing countries|1 Because you are promoting conspiracy theories|0 ACE2 is a receptor of cells in your lower lungs the receptor the virus attaches to His is why the infection targets the lower lungs|0 Someone in my office genuinely said yeah but Italy is a a third world country wont happen here|1 Yup No idea how people voted for him to represent us Im sorry|0 Coronavirus breaks into my houseI remember my gun Thank godI shoot all my cells|0 Hero of our times|1 Ok Im officially declaring it a pandemic Now what Nothing because labeling something does absolutely nothing The US government barely listens to the WHO organization to begin with|1 I feel personally attacked|0 if we can slow the spread and find a way to give respiratory health care for free those numbers will be accurateYes but theyre using that number as an excuse to do nothing thats not how it works Death rate in the US will be much higher than that if they keep ignoring the problem and not taking any action|0 According to the AMA done yesterday by professionals on rcoronavirus the testing kit only costs about 10 laborThe cost of getting tested is variable This will depend on insurance and how policies surrounding testing will change over the coming days and weeks Some cities and states may begin subsidizing the cost of tests and some may not It is important to know that the actual cost of the individual tests themselves is not particularly high 10 for actual reagent costs and some additional for labor and so cost alone should not become a limiting factor for testing in this country Of course we all know that the finances of medical care in this country are not straight forward Hopefully we will see testing becoming available across the country either for free or for very low cost so that it is not a barrier to people being able to get the care that they needMichael Mina MD PhD|1 This is only because of testing guidelines Most provinces are only juuuuust beginning to consider testing nontravel cases So yes most cases found are of travellers and most travellers are from the USSo other than the already known fact that the US is awash in COVID19 this isnt news|1 Thank you for the update Stay safe I am very grateful for Italys forwardness active testing and full disclosure We may finally learn what this virus is actually about if they keep up the clear information flow|1 i had to go out of town two weeks ago for a funeral Told my sweety to start shopping slowly She did and has thanked me several times in the last few days|1 Please dont spam the discussion with messages that has no information to anyone other than the guy whose comment was removed|1 I lost my job as well Work in a cardiac rehab unit Woke up took a shower shaved my face and then I got the call Off until further notice with no pay|0 It wasnt a random idiot google honey cut This guy purposely did it Sold in bulk to other people|1 Considering China found it problematic to sample an entire cruise ship Cambodia with a GDP per capita of 1400 USD probably doesnt have the resources to do ongoing large scale random testing|0 We are going to sit until mid April before we make decisions Our flights cannot be changedcancelled so Im hoping well be okay but well see|1 This is so the government can claim they are successful in containing the outbreak|1 If you spent some time in Singapore youd see that while it is effectively a oneparty state its no more authoritarian than the average first world country|1 shiti have like 4 cats|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Will we even use them or are they not good enough|0 If it really picks up as projected itll decimate the inmate population Especially in jail Everything is close quarters they bring in new inmates constantly For anyone here that may have ever served time you know some prisons will actually attempt to care for their inmates medical needs County jail will let you die in a heartbeat Dont break the law then|0 No its not speculation scientists have been studying this for months There is substantial data available from China and small ranges available on both the mortality and possible spread Even the lowest of these gives a worldwide death total many times higher than the worst natural disaster weve had since world war two A more likely case like we saw in Wuhan when the citys hospitals were overwhelmed before the entire city was quarantined and long before a significant portion of the city was even affected would kill more Americans than every war weve ever had combinedThe thing to hang your hat on is not that this isnt serious It definitely is But its extremely likely that humanity can come up with a cure and save millions of lives Slowing the spread of the virus to buy time for that to happen is very importantWhat people are wrong about in this thread is the timeline Yes today your risk from flu is higher Also your risk from car accidents and heart attacks The risk is not going to be high until a substantial number of people are infected not one thousand Americans but one million or one hundred million That is months off In the absence of a cure the risk is going to keep increasing 1020 per day for a long long time|0 Im pretty sure its a coronavirus and not an influenza|1 Cuomo said Monday that the federal government should coordinate a nationwide response similar to New Yorks as its so far been left up to the states to create a hodgepodge plan leaving the nation behind from Day One on this crisisHey you know that whole thing where each American state is the size of and has the resources of an average European country and should be able to selfgovern with the Federal government there to coordinate between them and orchestrate a common military defense against external threatsYeah Im in charge of one of them and Im a fucking idiot Please do my job for me|1 Might I suggest gasmaskrevolution Or maybe thats a terrible name and I kinda hate hashtags|0 He doesnt have much influence on the party at all Definitely not one of the most influentialHe is an influential figure generally as a billionaireHes a party member in the way that plenty of wealthy americans are card carrying republicans or democrats|1 How about no emergency assistance to anyone|0 Thats an interesting idea Ill be sure to look into it|1 They have enough money to pay health execs and insurance execs They are rolling in dough|0 They really havent been putting out a lot of data to prove that it disproportionately effects the elderly it seems like they had some data and just clung onto it to placate the masses|1 Its as simple as if you have to ask or question yourself then the answer is NO|0 As so often happens people seem to be aware of the evil machinations of whitehall but feel powerless to change itIve not met any sane individuals who agree with the idea of culling the herd for profit Its all too easy to believe a bunch of toffs got together and with glee decided to use the virus to obliterate as many unproductive cattle as possible While probably also using the situation to try and make the NHS look bad So bad it needs to be sold to the Yanks to save it haI think messing with the NHS is the line most people wont allow to Tories to cross At least I hope so|1 My addiction was Starbucks drive thru and now stopping Starbucks is seriously hard|0 Jesus God only knows how many people are right now outside of China and are asymptomatic carriers Potentially thousands|1 No tourists out Are they going to keep them locked in their hotels Other countries might get pissed even in the circumstance if their citizens are effectively kidnapped|0 Idk man have you seen the markets Sure they may sell out of supplies this week but you can only use so much tp This time next month those people wont be buying any tp like they normally would Since theyll have a closet full The companies that will profit imo are quest diagnitiscs whos making a shit load of test kits And niche markets like online schooling video chats etc|1 Hes saying that he received training in work hospital to change your mask every 20 minutes because otherwise the trapped moisture puts you more at risk of contracting the diseaseTherefore panicking people wearing masks because they might be asymptomatic could lead to a rise in cases as opposed to stopping the spread as youre implying The only way to offset that would be if everyone wore a mask and was able to change them every 20 minutes which is improbable Thus what hes saying is that masks are not worth it and that practicing good hygiene is the best course of action|0 Absolute mad lad|0 Are they using ventilators for more than one patient at a timeEdit to add Because thats REALLY not recommended especially for a virus that attacks the lungs I work in the healthcare field and we had a report of that being discussed as an option at one of our hospitals and people flipped out Very very not good|0 Please dont forget the chronically ill and disabled through this too my dudes stay safe out there|1 THE ONLY WAY TO BE KIND AND LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER IS BY STOPPING THE HOARDING FFS MAN PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB|0 Its Almost as though they want it to spread|1 What if my face has suspicious bus cough confetti on it Wont I just be spreading it into the holes with my hands|0 I hope you are all right|1 People always say that if they could go back in time that theyd warn people of impending disasters and save everyone Reality is this|0 Well someone should tell CNN and the WHO doc they had on saying otherwise Im not doubting you but can you please link to the source of the uh debunking|1 Maybe if it actually does in the US itll wake people up to how shit the healthcare system really is America shunned any international guidelines for testing and test kits and instead spent weeks making its own because MURICA FUCK YEAH and nothing else It honestly confirms to me that the US is stupid and simply hates the rest of the world|0 Ok so no different than US|0 Looks like my home town Newcastle httpswwwtelegraphcouknews20200131twopeopleenglandhavetestedpositivecoronavirus|1 its Chongqing not Chengdu I am a chongqing local so I knew a lot of folks were fuming about this sht lol|0 When I see this video I feel so bad those people are innocentto be sure that the hospitals position is so bad now but I dont believe they were so ignorant that they piled up the bodies in the corridor without disposing of them|0 Ahh ok i seewelleven if this had come from Norway Nigeria Argentina or the USA I would still prepare|1 Im in East Texas People are still taking their toddlers to preschool where my daughter was taking hers until a week ago The workers are concerned about catching something from the families that just returned from spring break trips The government will have to think for the people since they dont have enough sense to protect themselves On top of that we have 5 confirmed cases and 16 in the hospital that most likely have it That means many more do Our city hasnt been told about this and half of them think the virus is a hoaxEdit to say 5 confirmed cases now|1 Well said|1 Am a German user of this sub and there is zero indication that there are not do I see how wed know as negative cases arent reported centrally Testing criteria are very strict still Some hospitals test a lot others not at all Friends of mine works in a hospital and had just such a case brought her in he is a paramedic later learned she never got tested despite having symptoms after a dinner with an Italian friend who was also sick now and from the epicentre Italian friend didnt have positive result back yet so she was refused a test He said prior to not testing her they were debating what kind of samples would be necessary had been apparently wrongly informed that a deep lung sample was necessary didnt know where to send it or what the procedure was and they ended up never finding out Still havent run tests They only have one mask left per worker and issued reuse orders German response is fucking clusterfuck|0 It means that this is better than what we thought because until now we had been hearing about 20 And we didnt know there was such a big discrepancy between ages|1 I chuckled|1 Sample size of one did not die|1 But mostly just erectile dysfunction that not even viagra can help Scary|0 This feels like a selection bias|1 Can you help me understand what the mask doesnt help if care professionals are going to still use them Or is it just about supply|1 I remember that It was impressive|1 httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographics09 of people with no underlying health conditions who get the virus have died from it 73 of people with diabetes who get the virus have died from it The death rate also varies by age as those under 40 are basically immune unless they were already a medical disaster while the older you get the easier it is to die from it|0 No you are not an idiot|1 If someone tests negative for the flu and then show signs on the CT then what else is causing it They were diagnosing before the tests became available|0 Did you live through the Spanish Flu Just because smallpox and the plague are worse than this doesnt mean it can be one of the most disruptive and damaging events in decades Few of us have lived through this kind of thing before|0 as long as youre not elderly or immunecompromised you should be fine according to most people|1 CCPs ineptitude caused this pandemic They have lied about the numbers and now they are lying about the source of the pandemic But CCPs draconian measures are effective at containing spread No way around that|0 This is the hallmark of a propaganda piece China isnt shipping shit This is uber billionaire Jack Ma making a token gesture towards the US not a government authorized action Something bad happens in America and the media rushes to try and make it seem like an isolated incident Meanwhile something happens in China and the whole country somehow plotted it|0 Its my understanding PCR surveillance of close contacts of infected people is already being done especially in Singapore and finding asymptomatic cases Ditto for PCR of people being taken off the cruise ship80k symptomatic cases in China vs a population of 10000000 in the affected area means you need a huge sample to try and infer any kind of information about the rate or demographics of the asymptomaticThis isnt a random sample of course neither is your airplane idea Neither really gives a great statistical basis for estimating number or demographics of asymptomatic people in the general populationAnother point even in symptomatic people PCR false negatives at a reasonable rate We dont know the false negative rate for asymptomatic people Its probably higher|0 I dont think there was any intention to hide the figures just misplaced pragmatism that updating a map for the public wasnt the top priority but enough people pointing it out to them did work and I would absolutely agree that having reddit as a barometer of public opinion probably did have a role to play in that httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar04movetoweeklyukcoronavirusupdatescriticisedbyexpertshttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar04movetoweeklyukcoronavirusupdatescriticisedbyexperts|1 It sucks that you had to cancel your concert but you did the right thing Congratulations|1 The effect is most likely due to the removal of oxidative stress on cells caused by cytokines|0 You are correct I used surgical mask in lieu of N95 which is the correct term for the traditional mask The point I was trying to make is that while people are paying crazy prices for the N95 mask the P100 equipped half face masks with better side sealing plentiful and the filters are replaceable Ive carried one in my trunk for years for other than disease control reasons However there appears to be no reason why they would not be more effective than N95 filtration plus the better sealing However as noted 3m does not recommend the use for disease protection If I had a sick child in the house or I needed to enter an apartment with sick folks you bet I would be wearing this As others note it is essential that you not rub your eyes or even touch your face unless your hands are really clean|0 i got two pair of single use gloves underneath my regular gloves and i wash them in chlorine every shift I honestly hate being at work right now and we are not alowed to use any other protection than gloves so bad|0 Ill see you 10 caps and raise you 4 cans of Cram|0 I do fully agree with you But I doubt much will change after this epidemicpandemic will come to an end Its because we are all driven by habits so badly and you know how it goes with the human habits|0 This was done by scientists advising the UK government apparently theyve only just realised how bad the milquetoast mitigated growth strategy will be over the weekend and are changing course to more drastic actionhttpswwwbbccouknewshealth51915302httpswwwbbccouknewshealth51915302|0 just give fake name whe you go to ER death to insurance companies|0 it is Chinese culture to blame its unfortunate but it isnt random chance that causes these viruses to constantly originate in Chinawatch this for more infohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvlk5XkhUKMDM|0 Poorly lol|1 You really think people are smart enough not to go I guarantee you everyone who does go thought the same thing you did|1 I think theyre both pretty severe in different ways|1 Oh thats really well explained Thank you so much|1 True Plus add in a few days for the test results not sure where were at with time from test to result thought it was 35 days|1 NPR Source Says Trump Blocked Coronavirus Testing in January to Aid His Reelection Chances By Keeping US Infection Figures LowhttpstwittercomSethAbramsonstatus1238216578161926145s19|0 Yea if you look on pubmed there are a lot of these overviewcommentary papers for some reason This one does not include any special information I mean how about someone start talking about the missing smokers in the data Or the continued lack of a good animal model so far the best was hACE2 mice that didnt even get sick they only lost 5 of body weight What precent of patients require not get special treatment hospitalization outside of ChinaThere is plenty to discuss beyond just repeating what everyone knows it feels like people sense they can quickly pad their CVs with a quick overview right now|1 dont count on italy source im here and people still think its just a flu and you can read about things going back to normal in a week people not only are clueless and stupid but extremely arrogant i had three guys unfriend me on facebook in the last few days when i started speaking about the reality of the situation they dont want its just a flu narrative to be broken|0 I would stay away from any public office where people who are infected are likely to congregate without benefit of masks to contain their possible infection|0 FYI Dont go hording toilet paper Use the garden hose|1 Working on it lol the Michigan site was completely over loaded yesterday and only made it half way through my claim Planning on trying again today |1 Smart|1 Good thing we came out of 10 years of prosperity with an epic mountain of debt and interest rates near 0|1 So should they listen to the epidemiologists or the oncologists or the climate scientists or the antipoverty campaigners orThere are many more things we would ideally have than our resources allow us to have We have to choose|1 Thats my problem too The only solution is to buy so much of it that I get sick of it|0 Thanks for the link Im off to Japan in 10 weeks so definitely going to try and order someEdit HOLY SHIT THAT PRICE GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK UNTIL I REALISED|0 You also just the nail on the head as to why a cull would be a bad idea Theyre provide billions of dollars in trade That trade dries up they lose market confidence trade partners and equity You can lose ten million when youre a backwater no one notices there isnt a dramatic loss of output as youre probsbly just feeding people as youre primary means of commerce Once you hit an industrial society though it begins to matter Workers not working mean merchants not selling and tariffs not flowing|0 I was fearmongering before because of anxiety Im over that And I know we as humans will survive and be more United then ever I almost cry when typing this because its the truth Ive never felt this amount of love from the leadership the health personnel fighting ww3 and purpose of the human human race Im just a pawn in this But to the soldiers fighting thank you|1 Honestly not 100 percent sure ive been contemplating getting an aviation oxygen system from a pilot shop|1 Mask has super slim margin|1 They would need some might powerful voice software to try imitate his speech pattern haha|1 Hes a wealthy businessman dont you know so he can afford it huge eye roll|1 I am in a middle school I would say 90 of the teachers there say its a mild flu like wtf|0 I would recommend wearing gloves when handling packages Wipe down the boxes with alcohol or bleach maybe wait a few hours before opening them and you should also wipe down the stuff inside Have a corner of the house designated for handling packages so you dont crosscontaminateIt gets tiring to treat every damn thing as biohazard |1 That highlights how reliant it is on the random nature of human behavior tooone dirty bird could basically start a whole pandemic in your country by simply infecting a dozen people who are headed in different directions at some type of travel hub or just by sheer chance Long story short for that and a whole bunch of other variables make it really hard to compare how much the different approaches have actually changed the outcome and how much of it is just the culture or the geography or the luck of the draw when it comes to where are those infected people were traveling and what they were doing before being hunted down|0 No privacy laws in uk Lol|1 wow thats even more shocking|1 Need to save people from themselves Everyone thinks theyre exempt from the rules because theyre special and nothing bad can happen to them Just take away the choice Humans never fail to make selfish decisions when left to our own devices|1 Dont worry bois its just the flus|1 I came here to ask this same question I certainly dont remember major companies canceling annual conferences or telling workers to stay home google announced for 100k workers to work from home Can someone seriously explain WTF is going on here I cant help but think its just a insane overreaction unless there is something that the CDC and WHO and other governments are just blatantly hiding Im perplexed|0 You are still in time to do itPlease come November run as an independent We know youd hate the daily tasks and many other thingsbut having someone like you during 5 of the time would spare Americans and the world lots of sufferings|0 Thanks Just went to get more frozen food and Im glad I did feel better now haha And alot of stuff was gone which I predicted so Im glad I went and got there before it closed for the night|1 Time to put those old machines in the basement to good use A Core 2 Quad Q6600 a Core 2 Quad Q8400 an i32120 an i52400 with a Radeon HD 7750 a Xeon X3470 soon to have either a GTX 660 or 670 and my main machine an i54460 with GTX 960 Little by little|1 This whole situation with make people question their sourcing Then it will all blow over hopefully and well go back to purchasing the same crap|1 Exactly and no patients would think they had it Even a just a week ago when I was home sick from work I would have laughed at the suggestion|0 Thank you for your thoughtful insight|1 Im not sure how this is relevant to my comment|0 Yeah I tried this yesterday in Canada giving some space between each person in line at the checkout but the space was too small and crammed in that store for how busy it was at the time I waited days too after people panicbought things last week just to go get my regular groceries At least people were being civil and the grocery cashier was being positive I made sure I thanked them|1 There are no masks available anywhere in the USA|0 Someone has downvoted this you had more upvotes earlier So who wouldnt want an urgent warning of a public health emergency to be widely disseminated|0 Theres three ways to do things The right way the wrong way and the military wayI always heard that as The right way the wrong way and the Navy way|0 Oh that sucks|0 I also imagine Yes Im sure In your world those are the same teams of people and pandemic response was pushed to the next meeting because of a debate about carrot colors In your world nothing is prioritized because everyone was talking about carrots|1 Since Egyptian times when we were conditioned to believe that people in positions of authority are superior to us Further up the pyramid means more superiorExactly the same system still in place God bless the Queen and her billions she deserves to rule us she is so nice and of course Politicians should get their own NHS advice line plus instant hospital treatment whatever their agecondition because they are importantWe are all slaves and too well conditioned to understand that reality|1 You asked a question then when you got a specific response you criticise nitpickingIf you got a general response I bet you skills have criticized the generality|0 At the end of the domain name like so httpswwwnytimescom20200311worldeuropeitalycoronavirushtml|1 This is correct In this case the higher the percentage does not mean increased efficacy|0 I am a liberal worker in MA who can literally work from home for months at time keep my family inside and have all my food and needs delivered to me It makes me feel like shit because the system that allows me to do that is cruel and pointless and will hurt thousands of families Everyone should have what I haveEDIT wHo WiLL DelIvER iTUse your critical thinking skills By having it delivered I have cut my surface area of exposure significantly|0 I am a spanish from Madrid the most affected province of Spain living in Lombardia the most affected province of Italy Double KOFor what I have seen spanish measures are arriving very late and the number of contagious is gonna be out of control We will probably have more cases of infections in terms of absolute numbers than Italy However our healthcare system is pretty good and its been prepared very well for this including the capacity to build quick hospitals as Wuhan The fact that we have a scientific group Luis Enjuanes working in Coronavirus since long time that they worked with SARS and MERS gives me a little bit of confidencePD Spanish politicians are the worse |1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily 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months struggling to breath because its a bit chilly outside x200BThis sounds like a normal winter to me except the 102 fever part that will suck and seriously how the F can I get a job in a warm climate Ive been trying for years now I want a job before I move for obvious reasons|0 The problem is that your comment made it appear that doctors being killed is a regular occurrance in China which certainly isnt true Just as there are school shootings in the US nobody goes around saying that as if it is a commonplace|0 If theyre providing hotel rooms to those who merely have symptoms and not limiting them to those who actually test positive theyre going to run out of rooms quickly|1 I will be messaging you in 7 days on 20200322 122128 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003222012212820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfis8p0awomansaysagroupofchildrenwhometnbafkk65smcontext31 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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in grab a bunch of boxes and casually make their way out|0 Comment gave me smile Have updoot|1 Cuz hes a moron|0 Actually I think there are a lot of similarities with our current situation and the outbreaks of the bubonic plague in the middle ages there are ships at sea which arent being allowed to dock because of a fear of what they are carrying There is no cure We dont who is going to give it to us Quarantines Fake cures I bet they had panic shopping too But obviously we are in a much better position than 14th century Londoners because we have modern medicine In fact bubonic plague still exists in parts of the world but we can cure it with antibiotics We may not have a cure for Covid19 but with modern medical treatment we can prevent the death of all but the very sickest And modern science means we know exactly what it is and how to lower our risk of catching itSo I think comparing our situation to the bubonic plague is useful it shows how much worse it could be Yay for science|0 The deep fakes will propel him 5 more years of presidency|0 So its possible to stop the outbreak one only needs to shut everything down for 3 weeksThats what you can read from the tweets Reading the actual paper you can also look at which fundamental effects lowered it and how those could be reached with different measures in different circumstances Eg I think centralized quarantine is neither necessary nor a good idea in the West it might even lead to more cases than applying other measures which we can use but Wuhan couldntInitial R0 is quite high explaining doubling time between 3 and 7 daysYes But that could also be in particular related to Wuhan and the timing And also with this paper for the initial drop we cant differentiate how much of that was ending events and behaviour which furthered the spread and how much the authoritarian measures That just happened at the same timeLets hope more containment measures are introduced by Western countries soonI also hope that but different ones than those that were used in Wuhan We should learn from what they found out about the mechanics of the spread but we shouldnt 11 repeat what they did And in general I think we should look more at China outside Hubei and how it worked out there|1 Hum cute but Im still reminded of thishttpsdespaircomproductscuriosity perhaps some folks should work with the zoo to volunteer to go care for the animals to help augment the caregivers who cannot work|1 Not my country but yeah I do feel a bit sad that you guys wont be joining the rest of the civilized world in healthcare any time soon Too bad|0 Your employer is not allowing you to watch I dont quite understand that How are you permitted to post on Reddit but not watch your prime minister address the nation in a time of distress|0 The arrogance of thinking you can stop it is appalling There are too many no symptoms transmitters out there Even the incredibly locked down places are still seeing new cases with the tightest of controls You would have to lock down countries forever Hey old people never see your family again|0 Thank goodness |1 Ventilatorassociated lung injuryVentilatorassociated lung injury VALI is an acute lung injury that develops during mechanical ventilation and is termed ventilatorinduced lung injury VILI if it can be proven that the mechanical ventilation caused the acute lung injury In contrast ventilatorassociated lung injury VALI exists if the cause cannot be proven VALI is the appropriate term in most situations because it is virtually impossible to prove what actually caused the lung injury in the hospital PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCOVID19aboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 1990 calledthey want their edgy jokes back|1 Warranted flexYour government did a great job Fast and efficient|1 I noticed a lot of Italians in poor health and TONS OF SMOKING when I went to visit It might explain why they cant breathe my uncle died from pneumonia due to long term 2nd hand smoke damage He was always coughing in his 50s and 60s from damage done in his 20s40s Got pneumonia a few times within 2 years and the last one caused him to require oxygen until he basically suffocated to death Terrible way to go|0 Globalreaearchca is legitimately a fake news site Not Brietbart or MSNBC fake news but actually fake newsThe idea of Mike Pence fixing anything is ridiculous|0 Great Send me a link so I can alert my family ant the millions of Americans who go bankrupt each year from health care charges|1 Im terrified for our healthcare system Ontario healthcare has slowly been on the decline and Dog Ford just wants to stick a nail in the coffin to line his pockets We need to resurrect the spirit of Tommy Douglas all across the country and preserve our Canadian values of high quality health care for all|1 Does she identify herself Could be a patient mistaking people simply sleeping for deceased|0 No drones|0 youre welcome |1 Thank you I know thatBut the headline gives an impression that all those people would not be able to move while the limitations will be around a region or around certain townsWe are waiting for confirmation of detailsIf they have not announced it yet its because they have not agreed upon it yet So tomorrow we will actually know what it means|1 HK CDC vs USA CDC whose rightUSA got the lower numbers so we winning No testing proves to be a success|1 Well they revealed its more like 15000 test kits|1 I dont know man Should everyone with a slightly scratchy throat this time of year go into selfquarantine for 14 days when theyve tried and failed to get tested Perhapsbut for many its not a realistic option|0 Because someone needs to be blamedSo rather than letting us blame governments for refusing any preemptive measures that protect the people like stopping the travel temporarilyThis also gives them alibi for whats to come Oh it was the fault of people for hoarding masks and not washing their hands that we had the worst pandemic in human history|0 hahaha sheep people are all you democrats the same can you put your stupid differences aside for two seconds I live in canada you think trudeau is any better fuck no we just havent been hit as hard YET but i support his decisions to lead cause well hes our primeminster you guys jump on the trump blame train for any issue and its so funny sorry kids hes your president if you choose not to support him maybe you should switch countries absolute babies|1 sowhen is he being arrested please make sure he gets a cell that complies with isolation for coronavirusohand please revoke whatever license he has as a healthworkerdocwhatever it is that allows him to take care of the health of others|1 More worried about protecting my home and family from looters if it gets that bad|0 What are you talking about Are you under the impression that the Chinese quarantines did nothing That they should just give up on all of those measures and let people do whatever the fuck they want How is that helpful|1 Oh no Thats sad I hope that wasnt the reason he was infected|0 I had the exact symptoms 2 weeks ago when there was only 1 confirmed case here in Belgium 3xx cases now It was just me out of my direct colleagues so I assume it was just a flu It is flu season after all|0 They are here illegally or they wouldnt be in the process of being deported They were found to be here illegally They had their due process Also due process is a right for American citizens only If we kill enough of them perhaps they will stop invading our country illegally|0 Indiana is a really weird place|0 Noticed you didnt refute my point and went straight to ad hominemThe truth is creepy and shitty for those who cant handle it|0 So we should save the not very effective protection for health officials Shouldnt they use something effective|0 Whats the death toll of China And Italy The two hardest hit places so far No where close to that What does aoreading even mean No argument just look at the stats I dont get any of this|0 This is why we cant get rid of this virus The selfishness of human kind is astounding|1 Its not a handout Its a short term loan to cover a temporary crisis that will be expected to be paid back very shortly There are clear terms for collateral and interest And its still more than this administration would ever even consider doing to help you from being evicted after missing 2 weeks of work without pay|1 I agree|1 Some of this might be self selection howeverFirst they had to be well enough to get on a long overseas flight which also precludes a lot of them having secondary conditions that would exasperate and amplify the severitySo while better management might be a lot of it the candidates might be healthier than most of the cases that presented or stayed behind in Wuhan|1 New records every day Fuck|0 Im sure there is tons But Ive only got 4 n95 masks So Im waiting to pull them out Self quarentine starting today Would have yesterday but found out my emergency supply animal food was all used up So had to go get some today|0 I absolutely agree that testing everyone that wants to be tested is the ideal situation especially if were going to return to normal life soon It just doesnt seem to be possible yet though I guess it feels a bit unreal because this situation has fortunately not occurred to this scale in living memory It does seem like new tests are being developed quickly though so hopefully capacity to test will improve soon In the meantime yeah were in a shit situation You dont want to raise an alarm over what could equate to a minor coldsore throat At the same time you dont want to be responsible for causing someone else to become sick I think this could be part of the problem though People seem not to be taking it as seriously as it really is and treating it like an abstract issue It would seem to me that if you are presenting with any symptoms at present however minor isolate isolate isolate|1 If they are short ICU beds then doctors are actively selecting younger patients for those beds since younger patients are deemed more likely to survive This is the harsh reality of triage when there are not enough resources to help everyoneIf theyre selecting who gets intensive care based upon age then these data arent generalizable beyond this specific situation For all we know for each younger patient in the ICU there are 34 older patients who needed intensive care but didnt get it|1 I hope this shit sack gets what he deserves|0 I built a climbing frame for the toddler yesterday so Im hoping I can do a bit of language study while watching him play on it Reality is hell be bored in minutes Cant even play any proper games because hes old enough to watch and understand violence Its going to be a painfully long cbeebies marathon basically|0 The cashier at CVS just told me she thought it was a hoax to sell medical supplies like rubbing alcohol and gauze Sometimes theres just no good response|1 Takes at least a year of trials before even claiming it as the treatment for Corona Chan Key word treat not a for sure cure But it is promising|1 Have you been living under a rock Never seen any awards show the winners use thier whole speech as political grandstanding No one listens to them because celebrities are so far removed from reality|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The german 33 year old patient 1 was exposed between 1922nd Jan felt flu and fever on the 24th felt ill for 2 days and went to work on the 27th When the original visitor from Shanghai went back and felt ill they notified the German company on the 28th all his coworkers were tested and 3 2 more tested positive ALL German patients have had mild symptoms and have recovered HOWEVER and this is the problem patient 1 had extremely high viral load in his mucous droplets even a week after he felt fine They think the virus in his mucous is still viable to infect others So the coronavirus is extremely infectious but mild in action for healthy individuals with strong immune systemsPlease excuse errors in some details I am recalling from memory a paper published today|1 What helped me was looking historically and getting informed Try reading books on Pandemics or AIDS or Ebola or the history of Cholera or Influenza in London Its so fascinating that historically weve gone through so much as a society and gone on to prosper You will see that this is one of many that we have encountered in human history and hopefully some solace that we will get through itAIDS was insane imagine the hysteria people had before it was confirmed they had no idea what it was how it was transferred initially And the long term effects of it was so severe Yet today the second man was cured fully of AIDS in London And in DR the last patient was treated for Ebola In comparison Coronavirus Were very lucky that we have quickly been able to identify what the virus is and what the symptoms are The main issue now is that it is combining with the flu season which already stresses our healthcare capacity If we can delay the spread even by a few weeks our healthcare systems will be much better equipped to handle it The best thing to do is to try not to give anything to anyone else so keep surfaces clean wash your hands and stay away from crowds or elderly especially if youre ill please stay home And of course pray for the countries severely affected Italy has one of the worlds largest population of elderly in the world |1 Oh I feel bad for any elderly person having to work during this crisis I had to go stock up today just in case anyone in my family develops symptoms so we can self quarantine cuzI live near one of the USA epidemics and my cashier was this elderly lady in her late 60s it looked like and it was hard for me to look her in the eyes Im just so worried yall and my household has people who are elderly and THEY have to work and its just terrible how no one is treating this seriously enough|0 Was germany the one saying they had it completely sorted because they only had like one case and they cured them or something|1 Heavily modded by CCP shills and lots of lots of posters peddle CCP propaganda|0 yawn anytime you are pushed you bring up blowing up things and jihad and those bad muslims Pathetic|0 Probably to prevent kneejerk panic buying when theres a cluster of cases in an area|0 Idiots Unfortunately theyll spread it to all corners of the country now|0 My partner was talking about how probably the demographic of the cruise ship is going to change from the elderly chronically ill that have trouble traveling To the young fuck boys who just want to get out of work take vacation and get an extra 2 weeks off in quarantine He joked though that his work would be onto him if he was about to go off on a cruise right now|0 FDM creates tons of micro ridges as well Unless you smooth the print to get an unbroken and sterilizable surface its impossible to clean between the layers at walls|1 Good|1 Way to ruin the surprise |0 I dont remember their President telling 16000 lies saying the outbreak was an opposition party hoax the 15 cases would magically shrink to 0 and that this would all just magically disappear|0 Terrible May he rest in peace|1 Set up a Google alert for Cornavirus Virginia and then google will notify you when they have web searches that match that Then you dont have to follow as closely |1 The new case number will probably decline because they wont be able to test everyone The death numbers are what tell the true story|0 Just think about how many people could get sick or die because hes worried about his contractual obligationsLike viruses dont give a fuck about your contracts or your money If youre still concerned about this shit fuck you|0 The UK governments actions are very tactical My personal belief is that they have released advice to invoke a reaction which gives them ground to enact stricter legislation The west puts an awful lot of emphasis on personal freedom and weve already seen in other countries that a lot of people only adhere to enforced isolation for so long An authoritarian lockdown approach might work in China where they can back it up with aggressive military action but over here I believe they are waiting for the public to all but beg for a nationwide quarantine This is a working theory but I would not be at all surprised Phrasing such as prepare to lose loved ones isnt there by accident hes reading from a prepared speech Dont automatically put these kind of comments down to Trumpesk Freudian slips by a useless buffoon but rather a carefully worded and tactically placed statement designed to invoke a desired emotion This is all of course a theory from some guy on reddit so take it with a pinch of salt but that is my personal take from the press conference and this afternoon should be interesting|1 I can say that fuck being penalized take your kids is not worth|0 Republic of South Korea It should be just Repiblic of Korea or South KoreaAnyway awesome article|1 Deniers Who is denying that this is a dangerous disease Nobody with an opinion that matters And I dont think locking down the entirety of Europe is a sensible reaction to a single death of an 80 year old man Containment measures are important but you seem to be kneejerking when mainland Europe is currently doing a good job of preventing outbreaks|0 I teach at a university and do research in a field related to epidemiology A class Im teaching this semester has pretty much turned into Coronavirus Class We started modeling it at the beginning of the semester My students must think Im an oracle since every prediction Ive made based on or extrapolated from our models has come true1 Uncontained spread outside of China check2 Stock market collapse check3 Uncontained spread within the US check4 Classes cancelled checkIm still proud of 2 since I told them to load up on out of the money long dated puts on SPY literally two days before the start of the crash If any actually did theyre sitting very nicely Of course you have the ethics of profiting off a global pandemic but philosophy is well outside my field|1 In other words no The US will not be taking the same extraordinary measures as China because they refuse to acknowledge the severity of the situation Also they dont have the same power over their country as the Chinese government does|0 but the virus is endemic because western countries said oh you havent been to northern italy or china or singapore no test for you long after that was a joketaiwans good management isnt the problem its the wests mismanagement|1 The number they are reporting is the number of people that are showing symptoms not just the ones that are in the hospital I would assume that theyre going to stop reporting asymptomatic patients simply because theyre not going to want to waste a test on a patient thats showing no symptons Thats how Im counting it at least|0 Thanks for the detailed explanation|1 Very suspicious indeed|0 No thank you Not a fan of the CDC either|0 We are the doctors and nurses of NYC dont close schools because well have to stay home taking care of our children rather then being in the hospitals|1 Damn In the US we cant even masks and suits to protest in We are going to be protesting in Halloween costumes|0 Dont think we have such budgets to get that many deviceshealth system here barely operational Lots of serious budget shortages|0 Cut the shit WHO and declare this a fucking pandemic|0 And then the airlines fly more tourists into the country and the old die off But so slowly it doesnt make headlines|0 American Jews demand the government close the border HAhahAHHaAHHAHAHA|0 Two weeks ago Americans didnt believe this would affect them as soon as it did forget about caring for other countries|1 I like the British herd immunity idea s Do nothing but act like its based on some wise 5d chess piece of advice taken from policy experts who are apparently in disagreement with all the rest of the worlds experts A few steps later profit|1 Its a little bit different on this case we are speaking about loung problemsthis virus affect them the normal flu is the normal flu|0 The really revealing thing will be if there is another announcement like weve seen the past few days from another Federal source If there is Im shifting to DEFCON 21 lol|1 Uh duh You act as if they are trying to hide the fact|0 Need a book detailing each one of them those who have died as well|0 At the risk of her and you fighting a bit keep urging her the answer is no Its sad but whats better Risk of fighting and you being wrong or risk of her getting sick and dying Stay adamant and informed and know that many of us are trying to advise the same to loved ones as the lesser or two evils sort of situation|0 Hey thank you for this group and thank you for your effortWould discord be a good platform for the group therapy sessions because we can have voice comm rooms on their that fit upwards of 100 people People my age use it for connecting over video games but it could be useful for this|1 Hubei people have already been sprinting to shanghai for medical aid Assholes have been taking fever suppression medication to go to other countries What is your alternative|0 Right the past few years BlizzardActivision is the last company Id support|1 Free as in freedom|1 The first bounty hunter mission where the guy is selling fake miracle elixirs and making profit|1 It doesnt state anything about requirements just that it has to be either credit debit or check before the 5th But their email states we will not accept checks delivered to the office via mail or the drop box sooo wtf|0 Lmfao go back to deep throating some boots |1 Its so very unlikely you had corona 2 months ago News flash every year millions of healthy people get knocked on their ass by illness its normal|0 I think its more a catalyst as opposed to an external pressure This economy for a bit has been high on low interest rates and debt That was unsustainable So this is at best a correction and at worst a depressionThe coronovirus just put the external pressure on to change that which was already ready to crash|0 Yup I have mild flu symptoms but healthy and early thirties But I work with a lot of boomers in an office setting It would be nice to get some advice before I have to go to work on MondayEdit Im not going to work x6|1 I call bs We all know redditors live at home and mommy pays the bills while their brother knocks some chick up at 17 and dumps the child on their parents to raise who then ask the reddit or to take care of the child and now they cant even take a shit and reddit without interruptions So I call bs on extra traffic|1 Yes You cannot use total cases to find completed fatality or hospitalization rates Using total cases is how they come up with crude rates CFR and is only used when there are not enough end results to calculate completed onesThis is what people fail to understand and it blows my mind|0 Finally some good news for once How do we get KMs tho lol|1 Do you know there a websitepagereddit sub where those kind if events are posted I already had a bunch of shows canceled in my area Im gonna miss seeing shows pretty soon|1 I mean Thats speculation isnt it Actually means and probably do not exactly work all that well together to convince a person that youre really on to somethingHow do we know it isnt just killing off an alarming number of the elderlysick who make up a significant of those infected Even a regular flu can ravage a 50 year olds body and that age range makes up the majority of deaths so far Id imagine if we could actually get that information So far any official media reports are 50 Maybe several 2040 year old people who may have had medical complications already preexisting so Im not saying this is something as easily shrugged off as the flu but there are obviously lots of people who have mild symptoms from this and the majority of people have survived thus far going by the numbers given|1 Im only 20 so I have no idea but Ill definitely do some research today about everything everyone has suggested If Im eligible Ill definitely go apply before everything gets worse than it already is I applied for food stamps awhile ago but never heard anything back but Ill check with that again too|0 I work in a restaurant and have been working in restaurants and manual work for the last 10 years Always under full time contract And my coworkers were all working under the same conditions as well I dont know about the situation of less fortunate people but from my experience the majority of workers are covered by contracts and belgian laws|1 Financed Lol I have two 20 year old cars No car payments involved One of them was 900 I paid cash for it 5 years ago I live pay check to paycheck because half of america does I do not live above means My lifestyle is quite cheap I split a house with 3 other guys Youre ignorant which sadly isnt really a surprise in 2020|0 Boris is taking advice from people who know what they are talking about Juggling this with keeping people fed watered and housed cannot be easy I voted against him but I have no reason to complain about his handling of this so far although today saw a definite change in direction from a stupid course|0 Experts are hypothesizing this will be endemic That is to say it will just like the flu and come around every season we will never be truly rid of it Because it is so much more deadly than the flu this is also the reason to get a vaccine It will continue to invade us until we beat it Unclear if they mean you will get it after you have already gotten it but it will mutate soyou will be able to get the variant strain year after year|0 Not at all My daughter is now 8 and had bacterial pneumonia when she was 4 years old Her temp got as high as 42CShe currently has croup so Im keeping her off school Her brother is still attending high school and her Dad is a chef at a very popular restaurant I am a beauty therapist so have a lot of close contact with people Its a worry|1 Not just that either The biggest risk is hospitals being overloaded with patients which affects EVERYONE Anyone that has a heart attack car accident severe injury etc in the next month may not have the ability to get in a hospital And if they do they will probably have some type of contact with and infected person which will complicate things for themOnly way we avoid that is keeping people isolated as much as possible BEFORE we see the huge numbers|0 because there are just as many patients there isnt enough doctors to keep upAnd WHO isnt apolitical In an ideal world the world should have send all their resources into Wuhan to fix the issue We all know no gov is going to do that due to trust issues|1 Yes Let the Freedom bells ring |1 SARS death rate went to 10 because china lied China is the only country that claimed a 2 death rate Everywhere else its 1017|0 Mayor Drew Dilkens made it so its no longer recommended httpsmobiletwittercomdrewdilkensstatus1239670406224719872|0 Ive seen the men vs women fatality rate but do you have a source that goes into detail on that one Im just wondering if its biological sex ie a genetic thing or gender based on ones hormones Im a trans guy so I have xx chromosomes but I also take testosterone meaning my risk for heart disease high cholesterol etc is the same as cis men It seems unlikely that theres any information on that yet but Im curious to see how that pans out|0 No they did in 2018 Not the department as a whole but critical programs to prevent the situation we are now facing They lost nearly 80 of the funding needed|0 I did point those out also posted the link and told folks to read down to those My knitting group thanks you for your service |1 Actually the coronavirus is spread with close contact and one individual who may unknowingly have corona accidentally sneezing or coughing on the other person and that person rubbing their eyesnose It can also be caused if someone with it sneezescoughs on a surface and someone touches that surface while proceeding to rub their eyesnose|0 People that are waiting to figure out whats happening from facebook will likely be the most misinformed group of anybody|0 Oh I see Okay Yeah it would be good to point out the recovery as well as the mortality rate Although I think a really important statistic is percentage hospitalized full hospitals is the number one factor that will lower recovery rate and rise mortality rate|1 I agree with this as well Im currently a student in college After the fourth friend ignored how I told them and provided sources explaining its incredibly selfish to be partying right now and still did anyway I realized our education system has failed to get people to have a cursory understanding of science and math All the while these same kids were the ones complaining our school hasnt shut down yet|0 That sounds like a reasonable turnout Hope other states can catch up with the testing|1 If the internet rewarded points based on intensity vs I told you so Id be rolling in said points|1 Your average Joe thinks this is all conspiracy theory Even showing them the minutes from Congressional sessions about these things cant seem to make them realize whats been going on right under their noses|0 This week its been all ammo toilet paper and bleach wipes And Im sure the occasional random virus|1 Im hoping I get that one|1 Heres the thing one person can make a difference I went out to vote and was surprised that the poll workers many who appeared to be retiring age were handling pens identification cards and opening doors While there are no reported cases in our area its imperative that everyone understands the importance of minimizing the chance of spreading germs|1 Thank you Ive been at my absolute wits end with some of the reporting on this between the headline writers who thought going from 2 to 4 cases in my county was the perfect time to scream that cases doubled and the people who think every case developed miraculously at the same time we identified it|1 To be fair he said Even if you have private health insurance and at least in NSW the ambulance membership cost is waived if you have private health|1 Thanks for the detailed explanation|1 Swine Flu had a mortality rate of 10 and then it fellI guess the reason why Covid19 appears to have a higher death rate is different testing criteriaWas it easier to identify swine flu than covid19|0 What causes the CDC to increase travel restriction levels Just the amount infected in that country or are there other factors|0 take care Italians wishing yall get better|1 So India has now lost track of seven people who were supposed to be being watched for the virus Get on the ball guys|0 Breaking news you are dumb and unwilling to look at the scientific data What exactly are predictions of 250 daily deaths in Germany based on Can you tell me|0 I doubt it It was not the case with SARSThe virus is causing serious illness in a big percentage of patients Im 100 sure we would notice if millions were infected|0 I really dont care Life isnt as precious as you think it is Personally Im hoping we all die that way I dont have to see all these stupid people continue to breed and create more useless piles of shit|0 Some places are going straight from we dont have the virus to the virus is everywhere there is no benefit to testing anymore Probably because they dont have the tests in the first placeId still want a test so that the numbers are counted The numbers matter some day we will have another pandemic and we need the data from this one to help prevent the next one|1 Calling you out for spreading fake newsMicrowave radiation kills bacteria and viruses but the inner food temps still have to be the proper temps Use the microwave properly or nuke it on full till its burnt but either of those options will kill virus and bacteria We could say cold spots could cause sickness becauseThe germs arent dead however if I undercook pork on the grill or over Ill get sick Undercook or I promptly reheated food is gross but if dine right its solid|0 Ok I get it some people are idiots but those probably wont care about a celebrity getting sick either What OP and some other people here actually wrote is nobody will care about this until someone famous gets it which is also what Im responding to There will always be someone who still dont care and thats not what I or the person I answered to was commenting about Another thing is that whole countries already took firmserious actions before whole omg the celebrity got it but apparently people like OP will try to pin it up to see they care NOW because Tom got infected Thats just not true|0 Any source on that Ive used chloroquine and never heard of anxiety and suicidal thoughts Theres a list here httpswwweverydayhealthcomdrugschloroquineI think you may be confusing it with larium which is a different drug|0 The property owner now has to pay Airbnb The real winner here is the bully Airbnb|1 Many of the kits were outsourced to a 3rd party company According to the testimony of Dr Redfield the CDC Director YouTube SourcehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvYpn7wPsWas there was a contaminant in the kits which caused inclusive and false negatives|1 The only problem is they have to use compression and only a few of the nurses themselves are properly trained to do it I believe it can lead to issues with blood clotting etc if not done correctly Hopefully shell be down to just the 3 changes per week soon but its difficult to gauge|0 Its like some sort of universal income for people basically|1 716 for all healthcare workers not just doctors429 if you get infected but dont dieChinese online discussions ask if that number is missing several zerosmy summary of article|0 Nobody is going to pay the increased costs for things manufacturers suppliers customers Nobody is going to want to work in a low paid mind numbing factory job especially since we told a large portion of our workforce to fuck off with brexit|0 Wow No shithttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvPAdBUNfUoXM Thats crazy I had no idea|0 She isnt from Wuhan according to her accentdialect Important message but might be a fake video|0 They have now Schools bars restaurants shops etc all closed State of emergency|0 Of course Elsevier is not doing it Didnt expect anything better of them|0 Most people over 5060 have at least one preexisting condition Diabetes hypertension obesity history of cancer autoimmune disorder etc Just because they have some health issue that they live with and monitor as part of their daily life doesnt mean they should die early because of this virus Theres no reason a 50 year old with high blood pressure shouldnt live to their 7080s with proper meds and monitoring It bothers me when deaths of those with a preexisting condition are almost dismissed as if it was expected to happen Not saying you are implying this by the way Just that the deaths of those who are younger but have an underlying health issue should cause people to be upset too None of us are going to live forever but unnecessary deaths under the age of 80 are tragic They have a lot of life left to live|0 yeah couldve said the same about japan too im wondering though why it didnt escalate over there social distancing is more common for them but japan is still packed|1 Dont Dead Open Inside|1 What is the average age in congress Of those running for president Remind me who this disease is most dangerous for |0 United States have dropped the ball completely on this Cant do worst|1 It sounds so sexy too I bet it keeps the viewers on the edge of their seat|1 My own cells in my body have more genetic diversity than this bunchGenetic diversity of the same biological lineage is the norm and not the exception in the tree of life the surprising part is if the virus had the exact genome copy every single timeUseful data to keep track but the data is limited|0 See thanks|1 just to make sure some states or all US|1 Just another billionaire like Bill Gates There are some 2000 billionaires in the world|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 my last grandparent died several years ago and my parents are young and healthy enough that im not too worried for them if they are unlucky though hey atleast ill have the inheritance to comfort me |0 Its all speculation No real evidence|0 An airborne virus or bacteria is defined as one that survives in the air Illness that is transmitted by coughing or sneezing is droplet transmission You have to ingest or have mucus membrane contact directly with the droplets So yes if it survives in the air it is airborne|1 Eh This attitude is everywhere I live in Germany If anything people are more complacent here Our office has unlimited home office and over the past three weeks or so case totals have exploded And our office of mostly millennials and very young gen Xers one or two Zoomers insisted on pretending everything is normal by not taking the home office option And when I went in to work for some things I heard them actively parroting the flu line and mocking preppers This is not a problem from not trusting authorities enough This is because they trusted the official party line too much For months the German govt and media said nothing about it or reported on the happenings in Asia as if watching a circus from afar and bleated nonstop about how absolutely prepared their healthcare system is even as case totals exploded And their flock most of the population including young people bought it hook line and sinker and acted like by mocking preppers theyre acting like calm adults And come this weekend guess who emptied the toilet paper aisle|1 Well the stupid ass Airlines are stating that it is safe to fly|0 Well I hope ya make it through 3 Waitno Thats not right|1 If it makes money he dont give a shit Hell lie and say we made it and the Germans are the ones who are the liars about making it first|1 I see can you link me those journals with photos please I cant speak Italian unfortunately so its hard to find|1 Lol You voted for an idiot you get an idiot After the last 3 years what did you expect|0 Not a fucking thing It just makes people happy they can run around like Nitwits buying up all the toilet paper|1 Even in the US you would be in big trouble for filming in a morgue That is a HUGE HIPA violation and would be arrested|0 IMO using the word novel to name an outbreak is fucking retarded|0 The WHO offered us test kits weeks ago but somebody said No|0 Ive seen reports that 10 need ventilation10 of what though if known cases are the tip of the iceberg of actually infected thats a lot different than if it is actually 10 of infected that need them|0 Nah take the money buy 716 worth of accelerant|1 Sure it can|1 Thats the dumbest idea Ive heard There is no way they could do that in a manner which wouldnt also affect mainland China|0 this is why many business have shut their doorsMy mother owns a small business and has laid off all emlpoyees and is only working herself and my sister She bought a p100 respirator to wear while working for both of them you should protect yourselfBut you cannot tell me you are so stupid that you do not understand that going out to after work will increase your exposure Initial viral load has a direct impact on severity of the disease Dont be so dumb|0 Everyone should remember that the Ontario college administrators had no qualms about shutting down the colleges for two months over a contract disagreement two years ago But the threat of death to you and your kids mostly you is not important enough to contemplate proactive action of the same scale Thats how they think Its your family Think for yourself|0 2019 had 30 gains alone let the carnage play out|1 Lets see weve got 10 dead now a doubling time of 5 days and a case fatality rate of 3 percent after say 3 weeks Lets be optimistic and say 15 days even 1003333 that was at least 3 doubling times ago though So we would expect around 2500 cases right now|0 The UK seem to be working on theory that we will be mainly through this by the end of the summer And at that point a large amount of people will have been infected|0 You rock Thats awesome |1 For reference the flu kills 650000 a year globally Think about that the president says|0 Can you expand on what Paltrow has said or done Im unaware just wondering|1 Hmm interesting source youve got there|1 Jokes on you COVID19 You havent met the other viruses that live in subway poles and windows|1 Im not talking about avoiding peaks Im talking about practising good hygiene and taking sensible precautions All of the evidence shows that masks with good hand hygiene and of course most crucially social distancing reduce the chance of infection and infecting othersSocial distancing worksHand washing worksMasks work|1 i know about their cases allthough they simply wanted to alarm others they undermined CPs authority on information control to clarify i do not think it was the best idea to sanctionize these actions yet from a rather neutral point of view i understand the official reactionwhat i wanted to stress out by giving the above links is that every state has its secrets and the need of information control|1 Even just 2 weeks ago when I told my mom to stock up immediately so she wouldnt have to go out because shes over 70 I sounded slightly crazy to myself|0 The point is that they are not accurately reporting the number of nCoV related deaths regardless of the reason Which means the mortality rate is ALSO higher than what is being reported|1 Are those kits usable by an average person Like blood sugar test or pregnancy test They should make something like that and distribute it door to door so that people can test themselves and only go to hospital when they are positive|1 If we made it free tomorrow we still wouldnt have enough doctors You would still be stuck in a hallway with a hundred sick people just like the videos from China|1 I have seen various comments from experts on the possibility of postrecovery antibody immunity ranging from none to a few months to a few yearsI know its too early to know for sure but any sources on reliable theoriesYes coronaviruses have that proofreading action which slows mutation but they also seem to interact in novel ways with our immune system|1 Unfortunately other countries arent being as forward thinking as Italy I have absolutely no idea why Free testing should be actively encouraged|1 We cant stop it but that makes it even MORE IMPORTANT that we all follow the actions below What we ALL NEED to do stay home if you are sick stay home if you are elderly wash your hands frequently dont touch your face avoid close contact maintain 12 meters between people dont shake hands avoid crowds use hand sanitizer cover a cough or sneezeSTAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKPublic Health Authorities CALL AHEAD IF YOU NEED TESTING British Columbia 811 Alberta 811 Saskatchewan 811 for NonCOVID19 questions please dial 211 Manitoba 18883159257 Ontario 18667970000 Quebec 18776444545 not 811 as it is currently overloaded New Brunswick 811 Nova Scotia 811 Prince Edward Island 811 Newfoundland and Labrador 811 or 18887092929 Nunavut 8679755772 Northwest Territories 911 Yukon 811|1 Americans have a right to know if they are in danger When people start to speculate it creates even more fear and allows for disinformation to creep in|0 Vasectomy free of charge thats gotta be a win in someones book|1 I wonder if this could mean theyll be more susceptible to other viruses because of this having the memory of coronavirus affect how the immune system fights those other diseases|0 AZ phoenix area here seeing stores sold out masks and sanitizer TP not so bad I work at a big box store and the amount of people who think this is a hoax is alarming and many are very vocal about it Especially retirementaged folks|1 Jesus shut up woah What I am confused Do you believe I lied|0 Nah its smart Now we all know to shop at Walmart once it hits our cities because any infected workers will be at home and not spreading their germs to customers|0 What free market The CDC isnt private|1 Has your husband had flu before Or is this totally a one off|0 America I think well go in a different direction|1 The current CDC guidelines are herehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtml and I havent heard anyone not following them So unless you have been in contact with an infected person no ones getting tested currently unless they are hospitalized and have been to a hotzone or are hospitalized and common diagnosis have been ruled out Thats a very narrow testing window especially since were seeing community spread cases that are in critical condition now According to the tweet the CDC is going to update this criteria today or soon Id expect all healthcare facilities to change thier testing criteria when the CDC updates theirs which according to the tweet should happen today or very soon|0 I got it at release played for like 5 hours and then never played it again Its a shame because I was really hyped for it and before release it really seemed like the devs learned from their mistakes|1 I dont think so if you knowyou think you are infected by deadly desease and you go and happily spread it to others There are reports of them coughing and even spitting on people Literally licking shit in subway etc|0 Fun to read there Didnt know about that r thanks|1 The silver lining 213 yesterday 168 today hopefully we have reached the inflection point|1 This is all supply chain issues Mix in some minor panic buying and regular shopping and you get this They cant restock It will only get worse from here because when panic buying really starts hopefully it doesnt but if it does there is very little supplies left to draw from There are reports of ports completely empty right now|0 Theyre going to start calling it endemic soon Part of the natural ecosystem|1 My wife is this way But I do value her perspective most of the time I mean who is really to say their wrong You become what you believe you will if you focus on it enough There are plenty ofLegit papers out there on medical studentshypochondriacs bringing illness upon them just from obsessive thoughtsThat being said Im very traditional in my thinking but she doesnt think Im wrong eitherSo my point is maybe dont be so hard on them The fact is youre probably both right|0 Has anything any western government has done in last two months convinced you that they arent morons|1 Quote where I said I wanted a pandemic Its a thought exercise like what if the South won The Civil War Except its on an even more unpredictable modern scale Besides pandemic is here have you not been paying attention|1 You dont know who the guy in the picture is Lol youre on the wrong subredditnot to mention youve been asleep for a long while since hes been in the news pretty much daily for the last month or so|1 Its a good feeling I felt sorry for those laughing at me Not embarrased I credit Redditt and the people on it for preparing and informing me|1 The light disease still will usually have fever and bone aches etc|0 That is possible but not reflected in any stats Ive seen Im not saying with 100 certainty as Im not an expert but in terms of severe reactions it can be extrapolated from the death rate with reasonable accuracy In fact hospitalization rates likely have MORE confounding factors than death rate so the original article is still inaccurate in saying 50 below 50 normal pattern for the virusBut again not an expert so grain of salt|0 I was going to say the same thing but figured Id get hated on by other KFC worker internet keyboard warriors|0 I dont think this is Rotarex they seem to make gas cylinder fittings and other highpressure widgets but the plastic venturi used in this application is lowpressure and looks to be part of a mask a medical device part rather than a gas regulatorIm trying to find the venturi part in a catalog the 11000 price tag just has to be wrong Theres no way a simple plastic venturi device like this runs 11k and Ive worked in medical billing I understand markup This just isnt that type of a partEDIT This appearshttpswwwintersurgicalcomproductscriticalcarestarmedventumaskbasicwithventuriflowdriverforcpaptherapy to be a Ventumask design that venturi device has a tubulation and the overall design is different from that of any other venturi Ive seen I cant find any other venturi masks like that anyway Ditto with the venturi herehttpswwwpicukicommedia2246615495960636577 StarMed Ventumask details herewwwintersurgicalcomaucontentfiles76685697274091Thishttpswwwindiamartcomproddetailventucpapmaskkitml20469818130html mask kit contains the face piece as well as the venturi cost is Rs7000 which according to Xecom puts it at about USD94 This sitehttpswwwpfitznerdemedizinbeatmungbeatmungsbeutelcobeatmungsmasken5514starmedventumaskbasic in Germany puts the Basic unit at 6740 Euros USD74So I have my doubts as to that venturi costing 11000|0 My daughter lost her job She bartends and also fixes the gaming machines at a bar her friends own while putting herself through school She just texted me saying shes sick in bed with a fever sore throat cough and tight chest She doesnt fall in the high risk group so cant get tested Shes in another state and Im worried out of my mind Reading the comments here is breaking my heart Weve built our economy on a house of cards Pandemics like this shatter illusions overnight When this is all over with I really believe people will be in a completely different mindset We should have our strength in our local businesses and communities not on a handful of moneyandresource hoarding corporations who treat human beings like disposable commodities Im so sorry for anyone who is afraid for their survival right now We will pull through this The best human beings Ive ever encountered growing up survived the Great Depression We really are all in this together and people will be looking out for one another|1 Im an expert and so Im right would only be compelling if there werent many notable experts disagreeing with you Its not like you could go up to a fellow expert and throw that at them It wont work with nonexperts either Hows that supposed to goYou Im an expert so Im rightOther expert No that one is full of shit Im an expert so IM rightThird expert Theyre both wrong Im an expert and Im the one whos rightThats the situation weve got right now so of course nonexperts will be disagreeing with many experts when so many experts disagree with each other|0 I literally cant deal with this I think Im at that point where there really is nothing else to do but watch the world burn with a bucket of popcorn At least my kids should statistically be ok|1 A positive influenza test does explain the pneumonia but doesnt rule another infection out One of the early cases had COVID19 influenza and a few more positive results at the same time|1 Then light it on fire Wait Maybe stop at the drinking part|0 Thank you Scary as hell|0 That doesnt make much sense If one Norway is good then several Norways bundled together as the United States of Norways should be even better|1 Lmfao stop with this fucking shit just quarantine everyone This is insanity Look at the rest of the world and tell me if social distancing works|0 Not now but theres a good chance everyone will be scared to death when this stage comes around What worries me is that whatever you may think of the Chinese communists they have a well knit network of communities that can take on the job of providing the locked up people with food I hope well be able to organize this when that day comes|1 agreed with everything you said we need to do everything we can do preserve the real masks for healthcare workershomemade facemasks are effective though and should be used httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799|1 What makes gel any better than 70 isopropyl alcohol|1 Same I lost the joy of just having the ones I like it wasnt fun anymore Instead of being mad about it I just stopped My wallets happy tho lol|1 Our county is a joke as well We still show one case but the mother gave it to the daughter who brought it to school and then my daycare providers daughter brought it to daycare where my son brought it to me and my wife both sets of grandparents wifes birthday and two of her close friends that also came over We found out about the exposure 4 days after said events County wont test any of us because were not severe enough for hospitalization and havent been out of the country|1 The fuck are you talking about world doesnt owe me free shit we can all possibly die tomorrow and youre talking about billions of dollars per month for a streaming service that comes from a satellite Im saying wait it the fuck out so no one is possible dying for 10 bucks you arrogant twat Youll get youre money when this blows over Its not our fault this shit happened And you should feel lucky you have people willing to work for your business still and reward them for it instead of this bullshit speech|0 Wow This reminds me of a CASPr question Instead of masks though it was regarding tablet devices Really interesting to think about|1 Only if we the people demand it|0 This is true Lol|1 Im sorry but this comment section are so toxic Id rather boris listened and let medical experts lead the advice than just have reactionary draconian measures and just put politics first Be interesting to see how this works out but I feel theres a massive overreaction in these comments this sub and Reddit in general|1 Very true Thats why the government maintains the readygovhttpsreadygov website They KNOW they cant get assistance to everyone theyd like people to be prepared to be selfsufficient|1 1 its too late to stop flights nowQuarantines are a historically proven way to prevent spread of infectious disease Even if this case its impossible to completely contain the virus it still might helpUltimately though the only solution is going to be a vaccine AND enough of it to go around|1 No but there is a flu and cold going on at the same time My country is at four confirmed cases of SARS2 and a lot of people in quarantine but a lot of people are sick with mild symptoms that have nothing to do with the epidemic|0 Ok so Im sure Im going to get downvoted to hell for this but how is it worse than the flu I believe it is worse or else the world wouldnt be shutting down but I genuinely dont know what is making this virus more special than influenza Ebola etcI appreciate your time in the response as Im genuinely wanting to learn|0 So just hunker down and wait for the scientists to come up with a vaccine Clear your calendar until Spring of 2021|1 Im sure they understand exponential growth The question is how best to handle a deadly virus Not sure your A levels delved in to that|1 I have asthma too I was reading today about steroid inhalers Bit worried as at the moment Im very mucusy and cant get it up so im using my clenil but apparently the use of the steroid inhalers is working against people with the virus because although the virus causes the immune system to go into overdrive and kill virus healthy cells the steroids work to stop the immune response so we dont get an attack Apparently when it is used for 23 weeks during the virus it causes it to be very severe But they also recommend continuing it if you have itSo I really am just not sure what Im doing atm If I take it im less immune so could catch it easierbjt would be comfortable before I get it If I dont take itasthma attacks will be bad and the mucus will be bad enough I cant breathe anyway and then if i get it I will still not be able to breatheEither way if I get it and survive I will probably have honeycomb lung and fibrosis so will have a lifetime of more severe lung problemsEDIT Also just found this so im happy now I have asthma what should I doAsthma UKs advice is to keep taking your preventer inhaler usually brown daily as prescribed This will help cut your risk of an asthma attack being triggered by any respiratory virus including coronavirusCarry your blue reliever inhaler with you every day in case you feel your asthma symptoms flaring up If your asthma is getting worse and there is a risk you might have coronavirus contact the online NHS 111 coronavirus service|0 Seeing a lot of people oohing and ahhing here but isnt the survival rate for 80 year olds still like 80Not trying to minimize the dangers of this disease but its not a death sentence|1 Coincidence No it is his destiny|0 Sometimes what seems like a reasonable thing to do doesnt turn out that way Great quote|1 If they botch it for not doing what they should do Sorry I dont see the people as stupid like you do|0 Yes even the seasonal flu ended early in HK this year because everyone is so vigilant|1 reduced oxygen level in the bloodCan you explain what makes you say this Concerned because I have no symptoms at all no cough fever etc but I live in Seattle and have labored breathing for past 34 days Hard to get a full breath|0 I am starting to think the cray cray preppers with medical kits with sutures and shit might have a fucking point The government here is piss|0 When you start looking at the health of Americans ie obesity diabetes smoking alcoholism drug addiction mental illness etc etc there are not very many actual healthy people to deal with this virus|1 Im not saying its a bioweapon either but they definitely were researching viruses in that city Lab accidents do happen In fact it happened in Russia in 1979 Anthrax was accidentally released into the airWuhan Institute of Virology httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiWuhanInstituteofVirologyRussian Anthrax LeakhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSverdlovskanthraxleak|0 If enough healthy people who will survive get it then the people who wouldnt survive the illness are far less likely to catch it as the number of potential vectors is reduced|1 Great post Thanks|1 Not usually bad but he upcharged them to ridiculous prices then bragged about it|0 No doubt gene pools are getting mixed up with our new world of globalizationTo a degree China is more than 6 times less diverse than the countries with the highest levels of admixture Look at Alesina data in a sortable list herehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesrankedbyethnicandculturaldiversitylevel|0 That would be cool|1 Except you do get the slightly different flu again and againAnd you do get herpes again and again reoccurring at same sites as I understand it because it never goes fully away just hides|0 Microwaves emit a bunch of radio energy in a band near 245GHz with about 20dBm of loss either side by 500KHz This is designed to be centred around an excitatory mode of water molecules and these are prevalent in most human foodSARSCoV2 does not contain water in its structure so to destroy it you would have to submerge it envelop it or saturate its environment in water then microwave itIm not exactly sure anyone has researched the excitatory modes of common proteins and DNA structures but its likely that theyre pretty transparent to 245GhzIt is commonly understood that a microwave cannot sterilise against viruses for this reasonYour best bet is to boil the mask but that would likely destroy its filtration properties|1 Probably wont ever be available by now Youre fighting an invisible enemy|0 Everyone is blaming the CDC I agree CDC has been slow and not been proactive But the state health departments have done nothing too They have just been waiting for the CDC to do something instead of being proactive|0 YouTube is not a primary source If you are interested in submitting a YouTube video please post the original source academic report reliable news organization or a recognized discussion and add the YouTube video link in the commentsThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 A revolution with a bunch of sick people gathered around|0 Surprised no one has chart showing age by hospitalization level Bet this would be illuminating and helpful to wake people up None home mild serious critical death Outside of China or by country would be best|1 Thanks Those of us like me who are now off from work for 2 weeks should be able to easily get plenty of sleep No more sleeping 46 hours a nght for days on end|1 you know when chinas numbers started to drop and the rest of the world was showing no new cases outside diamond princess i thought that yeah maybe i overreacted and this wont happen Then South Korea Japan and Iran happened And i knew i wasnt overreacting|0 lol why you whining about your downvoteS yeah you juSt Stating ur opinion and the voteS youre getting are opinionS aSwell|1 Question since these specific patients have been sick for likely 3 weeks would it depend on if their bodies had started producing some antibodies on their own prior to receiving plasma|0 Without a doctors note WTFFuck whoever is running it fuck whoever is letting it continue|0 Would that actually help|1 Are they Asian quarenteens by any chance|1 chinese hospitals are definitely one of the last places i would visit simply because its usually packed even in normal times and for me it was always uneasy going there seeing that many people asking for helpAnd now the number of people asking to be tested and for treat suddenly grow by ten fold or even hundred fold no way theyre be able to cope with that Now even the medical supplies and personnel from the Chinese military are coming into Wuhan|1 I truly wonder how the antivax crowd will react once we get a vaccine and hopefully stop this thing I wonder because my mother is antivax and she is still raising my younger siblings They proclaimed that simply just washing hands got rid of polio and measles etc This truly might be the reality check that community needs to snap the hell out of it|1 The real MVP Bruce Greenstein of the LHC group refusing to shake hands with Trump electing to bump elbows insteadhttpsiimgurcom1muSkikpngRecall in recent days Trump and Pence were likely exposedhttpswwwcnncom20200312americasbrazilbolsonarocoronavirusaidescliintlindexhtml to the virus during their meeting with Fabio Wajnggarten Bolsonaros spokesman|0 If you manage outbreaks all the time Maybe you are not doing a good Job at managing outbreaksThought about that|0 this comment will not age well|0 And with that one comment my anxiety and fear washes away God you people in this subreddit are gods gift I swear Lol|1 Lonely xi jinpeng|0 Your idea is stupid|0 Ok anybody can produce a test but you need the FDAs permission to use it and they havent given anybody else permission yet Not a relevant nitpick|1 Not the point When did I say degrees prevent the virusI agree the degree isnt important per se but the associated training and education are While Chinese doctors are shouting empty slogans praising the glorious CCP our doctors go through years of schooling and training This is not to knock on them I applaud their efforts but our doctors are simply better and would know when to use PPE without some government entity needing to remind them|1 Well I knew for one and yet when I relayed that info to my MP I was ignored|0 Ms here and people are entirely oblivious it seems to the fact that testing was screwed up in the beginning So when they are confirming infections in 3 different countiesmaybe more now havent checked they seem to forget the fact that its community spread and relax Dont panic definitelybut dont be stupid and think this wont be widespreadthats why it IS spreading|1 Sadly it seems thats all we have at this point person who believes in God and science|0 everyone in China is wearing a mask and if there is a person carrying the virus he hardly infect any other peopleThis is the main reason why the cases explode in Germany We bought up all the masks we can find to the point that construction workers cannot buy masks for work anymore but still no one wears them|0 Hope nothing develops on that cruise ship|1 It certainly doesnt help that most likely the majority of his wealth is tied up in stocks He could lose a big chunk of his fortune Thats what matters to him above all else|1 I hear you and respect youI just like fighting my own battles|1 lol we dont|1 Transited by there a long while ago Dont get me wrong its a very nice city with prestigious Chinese universities But it is still a young city and nowhere near Shanghai and other T1 cities Beijing and Shanghai had the opportunity to have the best in China since decades ago gathering talents across the country Guangzhou has been liberalized at top speed by its local leadership which also utilized its proximity with Hong KongWuhan is a regional power that has everything it needs on paper But it still needs more exposure to the outside and have its population keep up with the rate at which it modernizes In 1015 years Wuhan will definitely be up there but today it still is a developing city|1 dude we survived anything that they threw at us until nowthe only thing that will maybe kill all of us will be pollution and thats only if we dont manage to get out of here in the next 50 years|0 Scientists are still working to understand the transmission of SARSCoV2 but current evidence suggests that the virus is transmitted through aerosolized droplets The CDC recommends use of an air conditioner to increase airflow in shared spaceshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpguidancepreventspreadhtml to reduce viral transmission|1 Actually I meant something huge with this word but its true its usually mistakenly translated by Italian mother tongues|1 Damn Im sorry to hear that seems like world wide the middle class is paying Stay safe|1 Pls keep her locked down for another 10 fays 14 is not enough|1 No doubt but the fact is that without people like you many people would be fucked You guys should put out tip jars imo Stay safe and good luck for whatever thats worth|1 Hmm youre right not seeing retail stores on there so cant say to it We will know by tomorrow morning Im sure My business already closed down 2 weeks ago from this so Im just unemployed and watching the world burn Hope the best for you try to be prepared just in case|1 Can we keep the liberal fake news to a minimum|0 Is it ridiculous to be slightly concerned about the massive quantity of packages I receive from amazon Im not an idiot just asking an honest question|1 N95 masks are only useful for about 8 hours|1 10 million people on strike wouldnt do anything in a country with a population of 320 million or sothats a drop in the bucket and wouldnt even make the news heres also bought and paid for by corporations who bought and paid for the politicians|0 Reason is not working well with a lot of people Any suggestion that its something other than a meme even if youre calm and factual and keep it minimal lands you a youre loosing it|1 Yes I do eat eggs and dairy These are awesome suggestions Thank you|1 Thats another way to look at it but they were probably racking up subscriptions from people desparate for health info until this Other newspapers had dropped theirs already This entire Internet strategy where people who get around paywalls by cheating becomes even more bizarre in an emergency The Internet needs micropayments really badly|0 Im making no excuses Hes an idiot that doesnt listen to experts and selectively hears what he wants but attacking someone who doesnt use context by not accepting context is pretty disingenuous and hypocritical|0 just imagine the power the entity that gets to decide what social media censors censorship is about to go next level with the use of AI as well what a mad world|0 Love it|1 Nah there are some I trusted I could count them on one hand tho|1 That didnt cause the inadequate supplies people have been warninghttpsthehillcomopinionhealthcare467246anotherchinesethreattoournationalsecurityprescriptiondrugs that our reliance on China for meds and equipment was a national security risk|1 Ha Everythings on the tableincluding the virus|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Id love to find a list of similar business that puts human first It tells a lot about their ethics and the reason for their margins|1 I genuinely believe Trump likes him he even lowers the microphone to his height before he invites him over to speak|1 The known mutation rates for coronaviruses are relatively low historically However this is a new virus to science and we will continue to sequence viral genomes to monitor for any change or mutations Dr Torres and Dr Fair|1 Probably more Lots still asymptomatic Next 2 weeks will be a shit show|0 This is the kind of confirmation bias that I came here to get|0 The authorities will never start telling people to wear them until ordinary people are already doing it and it becomes normalized They are affected by such biases just as ordinary people are Stop waiting for the authorities to act they will be laggards|0 Yes we too need the PR move to have the Chinese government come and help after lying about the disease in the first place|1 thank you for sharing your knowledge stay safe and good luck|1 It just happened to us here in PA and New Jersey has a curfew of 8pm5am Hopefully something proactive will happen for you guys soon Stay well|1 Fuckem desperate times call for desperate measures|0 How generous When your boat is sinking here is a styrofoam peanut|1 When the VA is basically setting strategy to be the health system backup we are screwed|0 For Gridcoin theres some good video guides on one of the pools httpsgrcpoolcomhelpvideoshttpsgrcpoolcomhelpvideos theres also a few written guide on the Gridcoin site httpsgridcoinusGuidespoolhtmhttpsgridcoinusGuidespoolhtm x200BTheres some other guides for Gridcoin for solo mining but those require you to get some Gridcoin 5000 Gridcoin before you can do that the pools linked above dont require anything to start so Id recommend starting there|1 You have just put into words what my brain does by natureAnticipatory anxiety is a double edged sword|0 So why did China allow them but not the CDC|1 They wont I made a post earlier in the day and Ive got people messaging me and responding saying Im a piece of shit for taking part in the fear mongering and being an alarmist trying to make the country uneasy I live in Washington Im allowed to be worried just like anyone else|0 Your post has been removed because of a persistent pattern of behaviorThis may include but is not limited to Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing way|1 My current model has 25k by 415 so this is close Its a bit conservative as I use a 10 growth increase per day but its more like 115Also were almost CERTAINLY past 25k cases but these are documentedconfirmed COVID19 infections since were not testingI think were off by about 254x since most people cant get tested|1 He could save others but not himself|1 I think they would differentiate between an indiscriminate travel ban of an entire country and the quarantine of the site of an outbreak delivered with logistical and infrastructure support for the quarantined region|0 If Jesus ran for office trump would claim he could beat him and then would try to demean and run him into the ground with lies about him And his stupid base would support him|0 Then no offense but you failed pretty spectacularly to convey your message since your original post does not even address the question of ethnicity You could have made a simple post saying nCoV2019 does not only affect patients of Asian ethnicity and this article about a couple Caucasians being affected is evidence of that Instead you made it an unverifiable IRL story that derailed the thread made it about the patients health and age and you gave it a headline of CoV is no joke gee reallyAlso Ive been subbed to rcoronavirus rChinaFlu and rCOVID19 for a while and havent seen claims that the virus only affects people of Asian ethnicity Which is not surprising given that nonAsians have been infected as well as widely reported in the newsPerhaps you got confused with research pointing to the ACE2 enzyme which is a binding receptor for several coronaviruses including the ones causing SARS and seemingly COVID It just so happens that that people of Asian descent seem to express this enzyme in greater proportions examplehttpswwwbiorxivorgcontentbiorxivearly2020012620200126919985fullpdfIt would certainly be beneficial to discuss this research and understand its implications to the virus spread severity and possible treatments If youre keen to explore the ethnicity angle before you can dispel it conclusively perhaps thats where you could direct your interest There are plenty of scientific papers from the SARS days and being preprinted as we speak on this very topic The one I linked to was literally my first hit on Google Scholar after typing ACE2 Asian Cheers|1 Well our president is basically a toddler so were fucked Haha|0 Yeah I was there just a few months ago visiting family Thats why Im so confused Why would anyone beat someone wearing a mask Why even bring it up Ive never heard of something like that there or in the West|1 Genetic analysis of the AIDS virus as it presented in various communities has concluded that Gaetan Dugas was likely one of many Patient 0 individuals during the sexually open 70s who became infamous not because he conclusively brought the virus to any particular region but because of his willingness to cooperate with authorities and give information about his personal sexual history There is no solid evidence of him deliberately infecting his partners or gloating to them about gay cancer and Randy Shilts characterization of him as sociopathically doing this in And the Band Played On written after Dugas death was regretted by Shilts and his editor There were a lot of factors in the spread of AIDS but myths that demonize the gay men who died of it arent helpful httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiGaC3ABtanDugas|0 Voted for him and Hillary Dont regret my choices at all Nothing wrong with a split ballot|1 Not necessarily Medical workers are trained to wear masks so theyre a lot more responsible with them they properly fit them and are conscious and practiced with not touching their faceWhen untrained people just start wearing masks one day they dont fit them correctly Then by wearing them around all day they end up touching their face WAY more because they arent used to them and constantly adjust the mask This actually raises your risk factor than if you just responsibly washed your hands and avoid touching your faceMasks are better for wearing if youre already sick to prevent yourself from infecting others|1 Well they did survive just a tad bit longer than most countries but you right lol|1 Its not no Theres no proof of bodily fluid exchange If they spat yes|1 CCP closed a whole province Foxconn closed Tesla China closed All kinds of businesses close shop This is not only about you being or not being scared This outbreak has implications on the healthcare sector and economy no matter how you see it|1 The bad cases wouldnt|0 It might be that the illness hasnt progressed far enough for the test to be able to detect it and you risk a false negative|0 If that includes my rent utilities gas and groceries all being completely free until I can start making income again sure Otherwise fuck off Im not going to throw the financial security that Ive worked very hard to have down the drain for this dumbfuck virus|1 Your neglecting to factor in the morbidity rate|0 The Vaccine Whopper is going to be a big success if they can just get it to market in time|1 Tries to restore consumer confidence and bridge the short term pain businesses like restaurants are feeling because of this Its unlikely to do that but from an economists point of view thats the rationale|1 Everyone does but they are looking at people like they are numbers 86 with no symptoms feels like a minor thing Only elderly dying feels like a minor thing to young people Thats the problem The cold hard percentages are minor When you realize its a human life parent or grand parent thats when you get whats happening now|1 Lol here in Mexico we havent had any issue really surprisingly we got very good public health protocols and response teams the first suspected case was in the next town over from someone who just had come back from China got quarantined and checked turned out negative 10 years ago we had our thing with the swine flu which got contained|1 If this is Trumps go to guy this week will be very interesting|1 COVID19 has a lower fatality rate than SARS but SARS can spread a lot quicker than COVID19 This should readCOVID19 has a lower fatality rate than SARS but COVID19 can spread a lot quicker than SARS|0 Small businesses are going to suffer either way my friend Hard to keep in business when all your customers and employees are ill The more people we have left at the end of this the easier itll be to rebuild In theory|0 Stop spreading fear Its 214 days with most cases presenting at 4 days Also the RO is 2 Not 50 barring a super spreader It could spread through a company but over time by multiple infected peopleSince the hysteria crowd is fucking nuts and rather look at the EXTREMES with blind regard Heres my RO is 2 source httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920301444fulltextSit down|0 Remember when telus had the best customer serviceNow theyre just like FUCK YOU PAY MEI am 100 down for all telco dismantling|1 Miracle what isolation does|1 Some people really are that crazy huh|0 Damn straight|0 LOL|1 LOL its a makeshift drive up clinic in a parking garage Were running around too much for mats We have folding chairs to sit in when we have time to sit|1 Insider trading and Trump wanted to blame the crash on Super Tuesday Dem candidate And he would have potentially gotten away with it among his supporters if he didnt go and do a speech showing how unprepared they are|1 So you have no knowledge about the subject and you have to balls to claim its bullshit before informing yourself on why that drug stops pneumonia|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 oh Yikes though if this gets into nursing homes its basically a death sentence then for themAnd fair but its still a bit worrying|0 I think you meant 811 for Northwest Territories not 911 Otherwise great post Thanks for getting the info out |0 We all are Thats what the future brings But its never all bad|1 Like Germany who operates at a surplus Our use of deficit consistently as an economic crutch it like playing economy on easy mode|1 Thats interesting because one could interpret it the other way Mother nature is the stone and were the water being washed away|1 Hungary Bans gatherings of more than 100 people Austria You are like baby Watch this|1 If you assume the WashingtonCalifornia and New York outbreaks were seeded by one infected person and that those two folks arrived in the US in midJanuary supported by genome testing as well as the number of infected doubling every three days and criticalseverefatal cases being roughly 3 weeks behind then the numbers for the current outbreak should look like this Domestic infected cases now 4200000 cases 6 of the population if limited to those 3 states Domestic infected cases three weeks ago 4100 Domestic hospitalized cases 5 200 Domestic fatal cases 1 41Thats for only two infected people coming into the US around midJanuary and kicking off our two biggest outbreaks Later cases coming from nondomestic travel wouldnt necessarily have a noticeable effect on current numbers|0 They are stopping elective surgery in Denmark already All hospitals are only going to be working on Corona unless its basically a life or death situation|0 Did not know that Thank you for sharing|1 Well hes aware that his party dropped the ball Gotta win hearts back somehowAlthough when its all over I doubt anyone is going to forget that China could have done more about this from the beginning|1 Thats extremely alarming panic buying of guns part mostly hopefully people there will move together instead of shooting each other My best friend lives in America and Im becoming more and more concerned for her safety by the day especially because she lives in Florida and anyone can correct me if Im wrong but Ive heard Florida is very behind compared to other states when it comes to this pandemic|1 The US doesnt cut corners Thats a laugh|1 To be fair those 200 cases were probably at a point where it was significantly undertested|1 I agree At this point info from China is crap Singapore appears to be the most reliable source for valid info on transmission routes and virulence especially because of the level of detail in its public info releasesand its rising number of confirmed casesSingapore is the best example that I can see Behind it are Hong Kong Japan and S Korea|1 Source your claims that they were false negatives Because scientists themselves are saying otherwise If you can source it and youre not pulling this out of your arse then Ill take your word for it|0 Yup There was like a week at least where the total number of deaths for the next day could be predicted with a margin of error of 2 And this was when they were reporting around 100 a day Then very suddenly they stopped following a neat pattern and we havent seen the same thing since in any other country Like seriously someone predicted the number of deaths there would be and five days later their total was 2 off from the actual total at the time|1 If Im right steken is dutch for pretty much any form of very localized pain poking to stabing so it doesnt translate very well|0 Yes suspicious cases still not reflected in WHO statistics so not reported I guess All good I agree that preventing a panic is better if you cant contain it|1 que the pandemic parties in the closet sized condos|1 Hah Hello my darlingDont you just love assholes like these who are making it a whole lot harder to make a clean household for newborns|1 On the bright side Germany can likely take care of severe cases in large number Here in Poland we just cant|1 Answer to Humans and bananas share 50 of their DNA What does this common DNA doby Keith Robison httpswwwquoracomHumansandbananasshare50oftheirDNAWhatdoesthiscommonDNAdoanswerKeithRobisonch2shareeb3792f1sriduOKmMq|1 Its awesome you have that option without going bankrupt|1 I have no idea why you are being so hostile but for even an inexperienced scientist it takes like fifteen minutes to set up a PCR and the rest is completely handsoff|1 What always confuses me is that simply washing your hands is supposed to kill remove viruses You dont wash your hands in scalding hot water My understanding was that it was more the friction and surfactant soap that cleaned your hands So why wouldnt it work similarly with washing your clothes in detergent using agitation|0 Ill approve this for the question to the community of whether or not there should be a weekly politics megathread Currently all blatantly political talk is banned for the purposes of keeping this subreddit ontopic though there is some crossover between politics and the US COVID19 response|0 The situation was not as hopeless as you paint it to be Surrender was not the only optionFrance had extensive assets available to continue its resistance against the Axis powers The French Fleet was the most notable of these France possessed two of the worlds most modern fast battleships numerous powerful cruisers and destroyers and a host of support vessels Had the French acted with any speed to the success of the German Ardennes offensive this fleet could have evacuated a substantial portion of the French Army to Britain and to North Africa possibly with much of its equipment intactIn Allied service these ships could have helped hem in the Italian Navy and cut Axis supply lines to Africa Against Germany French squadrons could have hunted raiders driving the Germans to the Arctic even before the entry of the United States And when war came to the Pacific the Fleet could have deployed in defense of French Indochina and other French possessions as well as giving critical support to the Royal Navy For their part the Army and Air Force could have contributed to the war in the Mediterranean the defense of Greece and to resistance against Japanese encroachment in French IndochinaEven without foreknowledge of the German disaster in Russia however the French had meaningful means to resist Germany and to continue to put pressure on the Nazi regime The refusal of the bulk of the French government to continue the war if under disadvantageous circumstance undoubtedly extended the suffering of the European continent httpsnationalinterestorgblogthebuzziffrancekeptfightinghowworldwariimighthavegone17590|0 Better than not closing at all |1 This seems plausiblebut if true will have massive ramifications If the virus keeps mutating then it will only be a matter of time before anyone infected with one strain will be reinfected with anothermaking this virus a time bomb|0 We have to look at the fatality rate in perspective 2 under extreme quarantining healthy people screening all the possible suspected cases and providing all the possible medical help to those in critical condition I bet Iran can do none of these right now like other countries China and Korea|0 Its absolutely expected given the state of healthcare in the US Health of our citizenstaxpayers has a very low priority for our government Maybe this will be a wakeup call Or will it be spun in some other fucked up way|0 its just insane|0 Seems like a cool guy who want to talk but knows he cant|1 Im 62 12 and Ive been following this everyday I have a masters in library science as a medical librarian Never got a job as one BUT I had to take a class on pandemics and being a part of the community helping society have access to info I also took all the pre requisites for nursing and the first semester of clinical So Im not uneducated and can do the math This is really bad and I hope Im just worrying over nothing But I just had a fever persistent cough that I still cant throw and slept for 4 days Another virus would kill me right now because Im not even over the first cough yet Everyone I know says its just another bug but I doubt any of them read about any pandemics ever They dont even care what is happening in Iran and Italy Im so frustrated with their ignorance of history and current events|0 But whats the issue hereDo people really think they arent building the hospital Obviously they are as there is realtime video of it being built that people are watchingDo people think they cant build a hospital in 10 days Obviously not since they already did it for SARSSo whats the mystery here Instead of using a real photo someone was lazy and used a stock photo is the most logical explanationOveral China has suppressed initial release of data on the virus they threatened and jailed people talking about ithttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvhTpwyMZTh6g they likely are still downplaying the numbers they are refusing help from the CDChttpswwwtheepochtimescomchinarefusedamericanofferofassistanceinstudyingcoronavirusoutbreakushealthchief3218870html they are setting up internet taskforces to jail people up to 7 years for discussing the virus ed WeChat is banning people and reminding people they can receive up to 7 years in jail for spreading false rumors about coronavirushttpswebarchiveorgweb20200129000855httpmpeoplecnn420200126c20529413626790html org linkhttpmpeoplecnn420200126c20529413626790html And the previous people they arrested for spreading false rumors were claiming that the coronavirus is capable of human to human transmissionhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvhTpwyMZTh6gThere are tons of things the govt is doing wrong Using a stock photo in place of a real one is the least of my concernsEdit Now included links with proof of statements above since it seems people didnt believe me without direct links and instead downvoted|0 You cant be fucking seriousYou rather people pay out of pocket that is basically free ANYWHERE else in the worldYour country really is fucked with that mentality alone|0 Not much better online I managed to book a click and collect last week for tonight When I logged in earlier to book my next shop there were NO online slots till middle April and no click and collect till early April|0 Problem is most masks were sent to China or panic bought and so we need the rest for medical workers|0 Damn|0 Probably not that bad Considering weve tested and come up with vaccines for different versions of the coronavirus before Its not some new fangled thing entirely Just slightly new Which is mostly good news|1 Airborne rabies will end the civilization 100 death rate with a 13 months incubation period|0 there is a really interesting post somewhere on reddit written by a chinese man helping the medical staff He organises various things for them Many cannot go home They sleep in chairs They cannot get regular food A few might live locally but no one is allowed to drive He organised bikes for them to ride home|0 Yeah Im worried about other people in my life who havent prepared and are now vulnerable to the infection could lose a job suffer medically from supply chain disruptions etc Id rather be wrong than see them suffer|0 Much of Europe is doing a good job at reducing emissions without being socialist|1 China has its own issues that many westerners dont like or understand but when it comes to getting huge amounts of people to do something no matter how beneficial its very hard to beat the allout approach that the Chinese government takes The lengths the government have gone to and the way the people have followed definitely wont be replicated in the US|1 And we know now you can safely assume with an xrayWe know covid is in WA why waste time looking to verify it is a duck if it is already walking and quacking like one|1 Yeah but they were old|1 Much love to Italy and the rest of the world Similar situation is happening here in Kuwait everyone is staying home No gatherings Praying in mosques has stopped to avoid the spread we still pray at home A curfew will be set soon We currently have 95 active cases 6 recoveries 5 cases in critical condition and thankfully no casualties Stay safe everyone 3|1 You misunderstood me Im not questioning his actions Just wondering about the math He is for sure one of the most pro active governors there are I agree|1 In Lithuania you wont get tested unless you have serious breathing problems AND were in one of infection zone countries We have 6 confirmed cases but it could be many more cause those people werent isolating themselves properly before contacting medics Also people who were in close contact with confirmed cases are still not getting tested even after noticing symptoms Schools are already closed but people still have to go to work and have no way to get doctors note without visible symptoms Even if they traveled internationally|0 Dont know how true it is but Ive heard to take it at a fever of around 101 Anything less than that and let the fever do its thing|0 The US population in 1860 was around 31 million a bit below 110th what it is today Its estimated that between 620000 and 750000 people died in the Civil War Proportionally the loss of life would not be as great but its small consolation when were still talking over a million deaths in these worst case scenario models likely greater than all US war deaths combined at 12 million|0 Thank you I dont have asthma attacks unless I cry really hysterically but I almost always have to get an inhaler to kick a cold It almost always turns into bronchitis or pneumonia without an inhaler and prednisone Trying to figure out why|1 Yeah the fact that Diphenhydramine Injections are on the list is frightening as I have a severe almond allergy I carry epipens but if I get exposed accidentally it alyays requires the er and a benadryl shot|0 I live in an apartment I have enough supplies to last 2 months Aside from taking out the trash which I am figuring out how to mitigate I could live here isolated for 2 months possibly 3 if I ration betterbut Im starting to think I should have planned for much much longer I would like to think our government will EVENTUALLY get their head out of their ass and start doing more butgiven the news in the past week outlook does not look good|0 Yeah and everyone who has been complete dicks to me over it can forget ever asking me for help if SHTF and they didnt buy any rice and beans Can o beans for a shithead who ridiculed me Half a can 300 take it or leave it|0 Thats fantasticA lot of doctors and nurses arent even looking at this kung flu as anything I was in a hospital the other day and I was just shooting the shit with the staff They also asked me if I had diseases like tuburculosis and other stuff No visits to china just general travelling then they told me they arent worried because they have active cases of the flu on siteThen when these patients get the negative test insteas of sayinghmmm you may still have it these doctors and nurses are likely to go See youre fine Now go home and hug everyone yeeeeeesh|1 There is no govt that cares about people but only money testing every suspect oh it is waste stopping flights but then what happens to the tourists and income aerosol transmission we should not accept this because then no more spending in public areas and nobody uses public transportation fecal transmission oh it is insult to our country it cant be true|0 More than likely Its such a fucked regime|0 I bet theres someone from the US who wont be able to resist arguing that they in fact have the best healthcare in the world despite all rankings|1 In South Korea there is a big overrepresentation of young women from the cult though Chinas numbers are the best they tested everything and the spread was normal And one thing to remember the cases outside Hubei probably had an overrepresentation of students and working age people travelling home for New Year so that explains why the fatality rate is lower|0 Can you link that article Id love to read it|1 I grim acceptance of reality and a willingness to find the good in every badHbu|1 In some of those peoples defense they might not have a job that allows them to take a day off if their kid is sick|0 Big if true|1 Im going to give this a shot Im definitely an at risk category being a smoker and immunodeficienct with MS I had the realization a couple weeks back that this could be the end of me Im quitting today|1 holy shit an absolute tank|0 Well there have surely been people who were hold up in their apartmentshouses who have died there is video of people just passing out if someone is living alone theres no one to call an ambulance if they pass out those numbers wont be reported until all this is over|0 Based on the latest articles it seems the dog is still in quarantine and they are still testing it They dog may have beat the virus or it may be in remission and could return if the dog is stressed They are doing the right thing Not testing all other dogs in the homes of people who test positive is the wrong thing Its possible but highly unlikely that the one dog they have tested so far is the only dog in the world able to carry the virus for a weekRemember they used to say you cant get HIV from your kissing or from your dentist there was no evidence of that And then they had all sorts of patients get HIV from a particular dentist Qualified experts involved in this case are not saying people cant get infected by dogs or that dogs cant be carriers Thats what media and social repeaters are saying The dog remains in quarantine because right now they dont know what the deal is with this dog|1 Thats been my question And apparently postponing is difficult because there are other sporting events and the olympics wont fit into the schedule a lot of Olympic contracts might also default Personally I hope that the Olympics at worst will be postponed we will need positive and celebratory things to lift our spirits after this whole mess hopefully passes|0 Lmao Mexico got it from the US|1 httpsourworldindataorgcovidtestingArticle comparing tests made in the United States and around the world It has great data and source|1 I want it If it works I dont get it and if it doesnt I get super powers right|0 Thanks Its no big deal but I try to not be rude|1 Only if you consider a bunch of poor people getting sick or dying being bitten in the ass I wouldnt put it past governments to cull their less desirable population from time to time|0 Shouldnt 2 weeks be enough for the serious symptoms to start appearingIn some cases yes not certainly not in all|1 Hurricane Rita was a rough one no gas in Houston next place with gas was college station Ill never forget the feeling of relief|0 I was wondering if that 1520 hospitalization rate was real It was almost certainly real in the sense of being the result of dividing two real numbers but I believe its not representative of the underlying hospitalization rate of the coronavirus that is spreading globallyFactors that can skew hospitalization rates upwards in the early stages Wuhan health authorities reacted way too late the virus probably had 12 months to spread freely without serious containment measures Hospitals in Hubei province were flooded with only the most serious cases as any sensible person would want to avoid a crowded hospital unless its absolutely necessary to get treated The overwhelming majority of mild cases probably selfquarantined at home and never got tested and reported Earlier strains might also have been more virulent and more deadly as noted by umanojlds with higher hospitalization rates but it is the faster spreading and milder strains that escaped containment and spread globally In a way its good news that milder strains are crowding out deadlier strains and are probably immunizing much of the population before the deadlier strains have a chance to propagate New outbreaks tend to hit the most vulnerable the hardest which gets noticed with a higher probability Example old people at nursery homes developing pneumonia But its exactly these older age groups where influenza is very dangerous already It takes time until testing measures capture a representative demography or like in South Korea capture a very high percentage of the entire population that likely got infectedSo yes the 1020 hospitalization figures were and are mostly real I believe but lacked important context|0 Italy screwed themselves with their response China screwed the entire world|0 Ugh people are disgusting And then you hear stories of people joking about infecting others Even if its not the Coronavirus even if its just the flu that is not funny or cool to do to anyone|0 Need to see this breakdown on the death count Were right around 20000 total infections using 80 of the death count 1000|0 Yeah dude California just blew several billion dollars on a rail system that never got started and its Republicans fault|0 wait youre not in china is that right youre in the US thanks for making this explicit as the post is seeking updates from people actually on the ground also whats your source for your claim that some Chinese are being paid about 100 a day US to stay insidehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsezpdwochinaredditorsletssharethelockdownstatusinfgp8eorutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x|1 I dont know what the stats are like in general but this person needed a double lung transplanthttpsnypostcom20200302chinesedoctorsperformworldsfirstdoublelungtransplantforcoronavirusvictim|1 Thankfully no the coronavirus isnt airborne However it can live on surfaces for up to 3 weeks this is why its important to wash your hands|1 The fuck what type of dystopian shit is this|0 One small step for man one huge fall off the cliff for mankind|1 curious what did you get|1 Disciplined in the sense that the Chinese people are well aware of what will happen if they defy a government order arrest or even execution In the US people know nothing will happen if they defy a quarantine|0 Baby steps Dont panic yet Well tell you when to panic|1 Awesome Thank youIts this kind of attitude that will make all of this a little more bearable|1 No worries I just had a quick look and another story has been revealed as completely false the voice recording from a doctor in Milan saying that they have many many twenty something people being intubated in ICU Completely made up No truth at all Honestly its better not to look at these subswebpagesAs far as your mother is concerned I am in a similar boat Mine is 69 a lifelong smoker and drinks too much The only upside is shes basically a hermit lives in the country and might avoid the whole thing Just remember most people who are even at the most at risk group will survive Also theres gonna be a huge number of people currently worried about covid19 and wont even end up getting it|0 No its bad testing We dont have enough test kits and will only test hospitalized people for now|0 Right because most countries are testing way more than Canada Look at those numbers when weighing how prepared we are|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6178114They tested in several animals in monkeys it didnt have an the adverse response but thats in monkeys not humans But I have seen other research in other animal models that once vaccinated it creates an adverse response In conclusion the clinical virological and pathological findings presented in this study revealed no exacerbation of infection in the rhesus macaques immunized with the inactivated SARSCoV Z1 vaccine following challenge with SARSCoV NS1 Therefore these results preliminarily indicated that low levels of antibodies induced by the inactivated SARSCoV Z1 vaccine may not induce ADE in rhesus macaques and the vaccine could be a good candidate for clinical trials|0 That is kind of irrelevant So far they have administered almost as many tests as the entire US That should make it painfully obvious how inept the US has handled this situation But even Taiwan should be testing more South Korea so far is the model for how to handle this Taiwan has done many things correctly but South Korea has done an outstanding jobTaiwan didnt wait for it to be an issue They got out ahead of the issue|1 Why are the CDCs numbers so far behind Currently they are reporting 647 on their website Does update like once a day or something|1 Well there we go|1 Its a capacity problem 10 or more of infected people are going to need the ICU to help them At scale theres simply not enough ICU beds and equipment not even a fraction The ONLY way to give people the care that many will need to survive is to either contain the virus or to slow the rate of infection and level out that peak demand on the system Or magically achieve 10x the hospital beds staff and ventilators that youd need in the next 2 months|0 Orange skin is usually a sign of kidney problems|0 Its a troll account dont waste your time|1 Yes I have links to the different protocols for Europe China and the CDCIll post them when Im not on mobile I have questions about this too|1 We arent man We can still avoid being in Italys unfortunately situation|0 what did they share the ratio gender pls share the link|1 The problem is the public are being actively denied while the rich and powerful are having the red carpet rolled out for them Either the CDC are approving the tests for the NBA before everyone else or the NBA are buying tests and side stepping the CDC entirely So either a regulatory body is playing favorites or someone is manufacturing tests and corporate greed is keeping these tests out of the hands of those who actually need them|1 Shame on yorkdale|0 That part is still sketchy too early to have good numbers The indications on deaths on reinfection is coming from the lack of examples of anyone surviving a relapse and the consistent reports of people who relapse after release from a hospital dying soon after It certainly seems doctors who were in early on reporting and treating it have succumbed to it at a much higher rate than the reported 23 death rate would suggest should have though I guess because of their stature in the field many of them could have been in the older demographics that are being harder hit|1 No Im in the Midwest Luckily shes taking it seriously and doesnt go out much anyway She and my stepdad have been slowly stocking up the last few days|1 Exactly they are modelling death rate on the rest of China when they ought to be modelling it on Wuhan or at least Hubei at large|0 So would someone with a weak immune system far better than a healthy person Or Im not getting this right|1 Thank you for writing this|1 UlysseinTownJesus I thought you were going to tell me the aluminum had a greaterlesser immunological uptake of antigens or something remotely factbased Enjoy your diseases|1 Were not just a number but many numbers lifetime tax revenue lifetime fees paid number of children produced etc|0 Most Taiwanese people dont give a shit about it but it is in the Constitution and China threats to invade Taiwan if Taiwan removes it from the Constitution|0 Might be ahead and one of the best but its not what it needs to be And they do take money and they do invest it which means it can also be lost You can look it up They have a council and everything|0 Wonder if this dumbass will start taking action ban travel quarantine close schools Guessing not|0 We had another new workplacerelated cluster Current stats are 30 active cases 78 discharged 108 total No deaths yet but 6 are in critical condition|0 There goes my team of programmers coming to the US in a couple weeks to train my department here Guess my work schedule is about to clear up Sorry Im trying to find a bright side|1 He is missing South Africa|0 No These are just people that are detached from reality The fact that it actually kills people who are old or immunocompromised is not relevant Theyre just repeating a media talking point trying to make themselves feel betterx200BThe fact that this could happen to their grandparents makes no difference here Its not going to register until it happens|0 Ah yes because the US has always been the one to advocate the truth right|1 I have Lysol spray I bought toys on Amazon for my sons birthday soon When the boxes arrive I plan on spraying down the box surface opening with gloves on outside by the trash putting the box straight into the bin wiping down or spraying all the toy packaging at least twice Then when I finally bring in the toys washing my hands really well Ive been wiping down all purchases Ive made in the lat week or two before they come in the house We still dont really know how long this thing stays alive on surfaces|1 I think its going to be one of the first lifted one as soon as meeting people isnt forbidden anymore and schools and stores open again I live in the country my family is spread into 3 different very small municipalities our poste got shut down for being impossible to maintain the safe distance in the small office and we have a grand total of 1 grocery store which is basically assaultedand I have to cross like 4 municipalities go to school It will probably be switched to provincial rather than municipal|1 If you have not been maintaining a healthy lifestyle andor eating fresh fruits doing that now will not help you now For the next KungFlu sure But your anecdotes about a healthy lifestyle are a bit too late for the game|0 and dont let your hair catch on fire |0 We have little concrete data on death rates We have estimates based on very questionable reporting|0 we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 24 days and the R0 value is likely to be between 47 and 66 Los Alamos National LaboratoryThese are the numbers using the Los Alamos 24 day doubling and assuming case one was on Jan 8th I agree there are nuances geographically that are not includedThe major takeaway is that if Los Alamos is correct with the 24 day number and if the incubation period is 14 days at a certain point the power of exponential growth simply explodes Because of the long incubation it may not be noticed until after most people are infected Approximately two weeks later they will begin to show symptoms and those that fall into the severe and critical cases will enter the medical system in need of hospitalization|0 Thank you so much Life saving work youve done here|1 The WHO isnt calling it a pandemic cause they dont want to pay out the pandemic bonds they issued a couple years back to help out poorer countries in the event of a pandemic|1 No idea why youre being downvoted Your statement is true and backed by one of the most reliable sources we have right nowThe only rich people caught in this will be public ones like politicians and celebrities Everyone else will simply go on a retreat for a few months while us the masses deal with systems raped by the wealthy for decades|1 Gah the false equivalence argument Theres no convincing those people|0 Brush off those old text books and apply those natural logarithms maybe the numbers might convince them We had A naught and now A so maybe theyll believe some numbers since people love screaming fucking science without actually having any science education Or theyll act like flat earthers|1 No way This virus is gonna cause more havoc|0 These are just about all the major talking points Ive heard from people who try to take away from Singapores accomplishments but I havent really heard much to back them upOne party authoritarian stateThey are a one party state because they literally have the best political party of modern history What other political organization has had less corruption and more effectiveness in all measures of governance than their ruling party They are thoroughly transparent in allowing objective international organization scrutinize their governance They consistent rank among the least corrupt and best governed Why would people vote them out And why do you look at the fact that people dont vote out the best party in the world as proof theyre the kind of one party authoritarian state that China isNo freedom of press no freedom of speech no freedom of assemblyThis is simply not true I mean do you know the history of their countrys constitutional law We can have a discussion about the constitutional precedents established by their highest court regarding rights like freedom of press speech etc Are you at all competent or educated on this subjectBased on what Ive seen they have restrictions on speech in the same way that places like the UK or Germany have restrictions on speech For example in Germany you can be arrested for saying certain things about the Holocaust or vocalizing certain extreme ideas Thats because of the unique histories of their nations The same is true in Singapore Theyve had deadly race riots and ethnicreligious tension So they limit speech on things like criticizing religion because in their society that kind of speech leads directly to violenceThe US takes a different stance on this because the demographic geographic as well as politics of America is different We dont have the same threat of racial violence just because we dont ban some types of speech But Singapore is packed into a small island with tons of competing and sometimes hostile cultures So yea I see this as an example of practical leadership They take inciting violence to a different level because they dont abide our definition in AmericaJail political opponentsWe need to do a case by case analysis of what crimes political opponents committed and whether or not their application of law and punishment demonstrates a double standard Because again they rank among the least corrupt nations in the world they do not shy from getting rid of incompetent much less corrupt politicians Whether its in their party or opponents|1 Honestly its not only the preppers who are now happy as clams and not worried about being stocked but the couponers My wife and I are major couponers and have been couponing since 2013 and its a way of life When this happened about a month ago we inventoried what we have and couldnt believe how well prepped we were All we needed were some N95 facemasks extra surgical gloves used a coupon to buy of course paint overalls and some extra food items like a 25 pound bag of rice and bottled waterOther than than we are good|1 Yes but you may just find out its wide spread and that the mortality numbers are going to be high|1 SPRAY NINECleans degreases and disinfects like a pro Kills viruses bacteria and fungus fast Deodorizes and eliminates dirt grime and stains Works on vinyl plastic fiberglass and stainless steel|0 Our ICUs usually have sepsis patients Were situated in the land of the elderly though No one is climbing any ladders|0 I hope that even if this virus peters out that the bottle on the head continues as a fashion accessory in perpetuity|1 I agree with this for the comments by armchair experts spreading disinformation But I hope serious questions will still be allowed maybe with some pruning Its difficult for people to get useful answers and I would rather they receive quality information here than panicporn elsewhere|1 Good luck getting those boomers to connect to the VPN|1 Lmao Thanks for that|1 By the end we will need to institute at least a temporary UBI if only to stop the utter devastation Remember we still have an ongoing cyber war and Trump can always fuck things up more|0 Fellow Californians the next few days will determine the severity of the virus Please stay safe and choose rational decisions Public gatherings are not as safe as they were before we already have confirmed cases in our state And expect for there to be a lockdown at anytime our state already called an emergency and this event might just be the breaking point|1 lol ok how do you do that remindme botMillions eh|1 You guys got trillions worth of military material but no large stocks of masks|0 Im from Kuwait the local officials immediately shut down schools and government jobs advised the populace to wear masks when going out for essentials and to self isolate and took measures to ensure that masks are available and are sold at fair prices What is your point|1 Oh my gosh I hope it isnt that long Because if so that means schools will be out for that long and I have no idea what will happen with my job am teacher|1 Chinese government didnt hide this Everyone in China know Western media dont want this to cause panic so they didnt translate this They keep telling us just a flu|0 This might be the only occasion you dont want to meet Tom Hanks|0 I hope Quest can handle the monstrous task of this endeavor|1 Ive toned it down a bit but Ive honestly spent the best part of days on here |1 is pornhub not free|0 Your English is too good suspicion|1 Youre on reddit Half of the morons here substitute their religion for Star WarsMCU|0 This They always shift the blame onto the people for their policy failures|0 Yeah thats what I was thinking Already cancelled my plans for this weekend thinking its a good idea to wait 2 weeks to make sure no symptoms come up Theres a lot of people coming back from vegas though who wont self quarantine Would be good to know where this guy was in vegas too not just canada considering most people are sticking to the strip and are in close quarters|1 The results always came back really quickly That part was extremely suspicious I hope this was a false positive but I wouldnt hold my breath|1 Triage Every hospital on Earth has a plan for when a disaster overwhelms themAt some point you will have to start prioritizing I am sure that in many countries there will be a document about how to deal with epidemics that will have a formula for when you reach this status in their health system|0 That is pretty damn scary No wonder its spreading all over|0 goddamn|0 I legit hope Betty White makes it through this|1 Coronavirus research is definitely something worthy of ones lifes work There will be another one a worse one somewhere down the line And theres a good chance itll be a coronavirus|1 1 person out of 200 people who are exposed to a COVID19 positive individual will become COVID19 positive 05 transmission rate in the general publicThat is made up nonsense it has to be higher than that from what we have seenThe thing that has tricked our government and CDC is the 127 day no symptons period it just takes a long time for hell to break loose|0 Ill never forget the top comment on the massively upvoted Tom Hanks has Coronavirus thread where the user said now shit is real Yeah because one guy had it Lets ignore the thousands of deaths and places under quarantine|0 I like the little Ah at the end|1 As someone in king county this tracker is giving me anxiety|1 We propose that the immunomodulatory effect of hydroxychloroquine also may be useful in controlling the cytokine storm that occurs latephase in critically ill SARSCoV2 infected patients Currently there is no evidence to support the use of hydroxychloroquine in SARSCoV2 infectionFor latephase critically ill Like when your chance of survival is 50|0 Hopefully Canada will follow if things get bad However rest of my family lives in US and I dont know if they will be as privileged Lets hope and doesnt get to this point in North America|1 Well theyre only claiming smell Is that false|1 Thank you for your great help its very much appreciated Grazie|1 I run into so many clueless people Fake News Yeah it is contagious but the chances of you dying if you are healthy are low true but I am not healthy|1 There is no way I would get on a cruise ship now|0 But the above numbers by country total of about 117 are from days ago We are now at at least 174 infected so there may be more per country|0 Those of us who dont get invited to parties are staying clean for the rest of you|1 hate to say it but orthodox jewish communities are going to be absolutely devastated by this|0 But why if that is his fetish We All Make Mistakes In the Heat of Passion Jimbo|1 Who the hell wants to be taxed into oblivion|0 I read the other day that the CDC was now doing clinical diagnosis of it Meaning if you have symptoms and have pneumonia theyre going to say it is Corona Ill try and find it wish me luck because I cant remember where I read it|1 Dude is a saint Ive had the pleasure of going to his resteraunts often Glad my money went to a good person|1 You also say that theres a 12 day lag between a suspected case presenting No I said there is a lag time of up to 12 days to getting tested in Wuhan This was from a hospital interview in on Weixin in Chinese Im struggling to find it again now This was however in the very early days in Wuhan just after the ban Youre perfectly correct on the rest of the treatment algorithm right now That was the phase 4 posted mid last week I literally say in the next sentence lag is a lot shorter in other provinces due to stillfunctioning logistics but its still about 5 days at least in almost all of China and that theyve been getting it down The current lag in Wuhan is still longer though because they have a backlog of suspected cases still to get through|0 Sorry for that this society is promoting idiocy in every way because people think thats cool There are tons of videos with a brain dead dude in 20s harassing people but got trend and likes stupid tweets and articles criticizing the entire planet is overreacting to a hoax even on linkedin the last place I was expecting these morons to show up But sadly enough those media are also being treated as newsfeed by a portion of peopleBest of luck to you and your family Take care|0 I mean hes a pro sports star they really should if theyre not already tracking down every person to whom he gave an autograph Assuming he was contagious since 34 the Jazz his team were in New York then then Boston two days later where this kid was then Toronto then Oklahoma City Zoinks|0 The point the competent ones are trying to make is that the data at least before yesterday did not look like real data Real data is messy and spiky with more random variation Theyre not saying China is using mathematical models to fake numbers theyre saying the numbers look too neat like somebodys managing to a number Its along the lines of a company which always manages to beat Wall Street expectations by exactly a cent are they REALLY that perfect or are they doing accounting tricks to hit their earnings target|1 Our family myself my SO and our toddler have been sick for almost 4 weeks now with similar symptoms Fatigue body aches nonstop headache runny nose for a day or two then it progresses into intense coughing feeling like you cant catch your breath and fever Its strange as the symptoms almost cycle through and it feels like it never ends My coworker came down with the same thing a week after I did and has been out of work for a week straight which is highly unusual His doctor instructed him to stay home until further notice My family is not going to any medical facility for treatment unless it becomes essential for a multitude of reasons|0 I think the US will soon be facing a ban from other countries as well I dont think theyre faring much better than Europe they just dont knowit yet because of their testing issues|1 Yeah but no one gives a shit about crybabies who are too busy with trying to get offended to care about saving livesWhere have you been the last 10 years Those are the people who drive everything now via Twitter|0 Not the limes are fine Its that sharing part|1 Same man I come here every few days to see if there is any new info but honestly watching numbers rise does nothing for me one way or the other I have accepted that all I can do is prepare and wait and see what happens|1 Hong Kong has only had a bit over 100 cases but youll never see anyone outside without masks many are wearing gloves and some are even wearing goggles and face shields We havent been hit hard and we intend to keep it that way with unceasing vigilance|1 No they arent Mild cases are like a dry cough and a little feverish Some people dont even realise they have anything|1 Please dont compare that with US Compare Germany recovery rates with China or South KoreaSoon US rates would be comparing with Iran|1 Yeah thats true Definitely just trying to be optimistic|1 Yeah but CFR is meaningful at the end of the disease cycle which makes all infected death recoveryTechnically you are both right just not at the same time window|0 This is why we should test everybody those without symptoms are most likely to be the super spreaders that will get others killed Ah if only the USA could get its act together with respect to testing All we hear are excuses|1 rcollapse is more systems oriented and is more focused on climateThis subreddit is about a single issue being nCoV|1 Its just the flu Literally at my school rn no one gives a fuck They cancelled classes for the rest of the semester so that people were no in crowds so what is everyone doing Going out partying all day and acting like its early summer vacation Literally a kid staying at my house rn who told me hes immunocompromised and is fucked if he gets it Same kid had been going out for the last 2 days Sucks for me cuz no matter what precautions Im personally taking it doesnt matter cuz no one else taking it seriously so Ill still catch it from them|0 And this is how misinformed I am from socalled legitimate news Thanks for saying something its not the first time Ive been wrong|0 Lol I cant stand the YOLO people right now|1 I dont see a SINGLE GDamn mask in that picturewtfThis ought spread the virus nicely|1 Ive worked at a hospital and witnessed a doctor picking up a phone with bloody gloves From a patient with Hep C I hope authorities start implementing new routines from the top hard|1 Bored Sad pondering the meaning of life I love self isolation|0 Aliens The plot of this virus is just too ingenious to be this stupid Aliens|0 Yeah no ones making shit up to attack him Theyre just asking for more information|0 We have been locked in the house with my dead sister for 24 hours Unimaginably devastating|0 When the system becomes overloaded youre going to see very different circumstances Hospitals cant legally refuse immediate life saving or critical care but they have no obligation to care for people not in immediate danger which will be most of the Covid19 patients There is no safety net theres just some options in some places for some low income people to receive some basic medical care That medical care is subsidized and limited in capacity reach and extensiveness If you think thats a safety net then the European health care systems are safety yachts in comparisonAnd while those people may be able to get medical care what are their options for paying rent when theyre told to quarantine for 2 weeks If theyre low income Im betting they dont have a strong savings account to cover not working that long Will they have a job to come back toWhat you describe is a bandaid on an exorbitantly priced health Care system to make minimal care accessible in your location Thats not a safety net A safety net would be guarantees that if you get sick you wont lose your job or our housing that youll still have food and your family will be ok AND that you get the medical care you need|1 We as a country dont care about the less fortunate on a day to day basis so why do you think that we as a country will give a fuck about you in your moment of need when it has no bearing on our immediate needscircleBernie 2020|0 The easy logistics make them great for families with very young or very old people coming along Plus very large friend groups 15 people which are always hard to herd everyone to activities together on a normal vacation especially if the agenda for the trip was eating and drinking together anyway|1 Same thing we are doing in the US It is everywhere now No stopping it anymore No reason to shut the barn door at this point|0 I feel like it should be the turning point but I dont think it will be|1 USA Close the consulateGet well my friend|1 International cases are increasing every day Flights are still going in and out of china China cases are growing exponentially I dont see the good news|0 Supply chain is out of China and Taiwan They diverted it for their own citizensThis is why doctors and hospitals cant get moreIf they bought up all the ones from CVS itd last them less than a daySo average Joe isnt the problem with supply|1 We had a chance for contact tracing but pissed that away weeks ago Now I worry we are really really in trouble|0 Good question Supply is pretty tight now its sold out in most if not all chemists For my family we just try to be strategic about our usage Theres not much else we can do really Ive received messages from people overseas offering to donate masks and Ive already given them the address that they can send them to|1 They have the virus but it cant infect their cells easily because they dont have ACE2 receptors yet|1 That would be tremendous and then if only it would stop indefinitely|0 Thank you for the kindness Theres so many smart people working on this My only goal is to make a difference and save some lives Thats worth more than any awardHonestly if we as a population can curb our behavior and prevent the further spread of this virus then we all deserve an award|1 Honestly the worst outcome for her realistically is getting a warning from her institutions IRB about using clinical samples for purposes outside the stated protocol Having PCR primers for COVID19 is not illegal or anything The difference between for research purposes only and an approved clinical test Hundreds of labs in the US can test for COVID19 assuming they are biosafety certifiedThis was a pretty safe risk especially considering the outcome|1 Stop they let everyone ashore right |0 So Racists dont care about race Kay then|0 Isnt that normal for everyone with an work contract If my employer tells me to stay home or if Im slacking all Ray because there is no work to do its so obvious that its not even needed to mention that my pay is untouched|0 Some do prefer ibuprofen over acetaminophen I see ibuprofen prescribed more for muscle and joint pain headaches Tylenol typically for feverI personally only take Tylenol for fever Ibuprofen for everything else|0 Hopefully people have savingsDo you know how many people in this fucking country are living paychecktopaycheckFuck Trump Fuck Pence Fuck their bootlickers|0 Iran is one of the largest centers of the outbreak outside of China I have nothing against Iranians As a fellow Muslim and halfArab though Im well aware of how Arabs love to take trips to their home country to visit family And judging by the reaction of my local Muslim community the prevailing sentiment is still at the but the flu is worse stage where they literally believe things are normalNot exclusive to Iranians but Muslims do hug and kiss one another in greeting many dont mind sharing drinks from the same cup many meals are eaten with just your hands due to bread being the primary vesselscooper etc Praying in the mosque means people are tightly packed together because during prayer youre not supposed to leave huge gaps horizontally between one another Dont get me wrong cleanliness is a huge part of Islam and youre supposed to wash yourself wudhu several times a day before the daily prayers but at the end of the day humans are humans and can be lazy not practice properly not care|1 Im sick of it being minimized I dont think people want to deal so they bury their heads|0 I say yes An Italian doctor interview said that when they are overcrowded they need to prioritize ICU beds because there are not enough Each morning their specialist in infections and respiratory goes around the wards to choose which patience can be moved from moderate treatment to ICU treatment They evaluate your likelihood of survival of incubation and other invasive care include age and hearth data So if your blood pressurespikes when that doctor calls your lesslikely to get an ICU bed The moral of the story is stay healthy and if you get infected try to get better without needing hospital care I like tlyou have anxiety blood pressure so Ive been checking their procedures to be prepared for any outcome|1 I understand the fear and concern and I wish we all could just stay home and shut down but while I work for a grocery store and will be working even if the country does have a lockdown I have roommates that are already seeing reduced hours and are worried about paying rent Rent groceries and utilities are expensive much less those parents providing for kids or aging grandparents there is no plan to help people with lost wages until there is a solution for it I can see why Trudeau is reluctant to shut everything down we dont need an economic crash to contribute to the problem sadly I doubt that we can all take two weeks off and get two week paid sick leave for every person who misses work|0 Because its just shipping out test kits It cant be that hard right Maybe I am underestimating how stupid our government can be sometimes I think well learn a lot more once things pan out|0 Event videographer in LA here Shit hit the fan yesterday with cancelled events I can last MAYBE a month with no work after that rentbills wont be paid Our job literally depends on people gathering together for events This is the worst|0 Theres indeed nothing we can do But therefore we should not rely on data like this It can only lead to false conclusions|1 Certain blood tests can indicate cytokine storms so Im assuming this guy is in a hospital and the doctors know that I think at this point steroids can be used Its been recommended that steroids not be used with COVID19 because it can make things worse However I think its considered ok in the event of a cytokine storm Im obviously not a doctor so dont listen to me My point is that hopefully they already know whats up|1 Its sadly truethere are too many morons in Italy many imbeciles who think that closings due to coronavirus are a holiday over the weekend many moved from the northern areas considered at risk to spend two days at the beach the public gardens are full of children and adolescents and it is really embarrassing being Italian is very difficult because it constantly puts you in front of the smallness of this people this mentality will lead us to very serious losses in a difficult situation like this|0 A lower standard of living is preferable to letting people suffer and die|0 Seriously Lol |1 Sorry you got to close down but I care for my moms life more than beating last years profitsBeating last years profits Are you serious Im more concerned right about how I will feed my family in a month from now when my money runs out because my business was absolutely destroyed by the incompetence of our government during a crisis Newsflash for Ya Randy I dont care about your mom as much as you dont care about me and mine So thereEdit after thinking a bit I feel bad for saying that I hope you and your mom stay healthy throughout this Take care of yourselves |1 Like this glowing examplehttpswwwredditcomrwallstreetbetscommentsfgmqvmivebeenavoidingdisputssayingtheyllneverutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare|1 Because there is still plenty of food on the shelves but no toilet paper See also baby wipes cough medicine hand sanitizer|1 Forgive me if Im asking too much Does he know how he could have got it Is he kept in isolation or is family around him|0 Its unknown how many deaths in China went unrecorded as the virus For example there was the case of the film director who died along with his sister and parents and none of them were ever tested or hospitalised|0 They may be forced to shutter then That is the cost of slowing things down I read somewhere there will be relief through the Employment Security Department of Washington Id suggest anyone affected by this go there for more answers on financial compensation to ride this out|1 Gee thanks|1 Singapore also has the highest income per capita and highest price real estate in the world Have you seen crazy rich Asians the movie|1 My 20something next door neighbors had a party last night with a bunch of kids family I think sleeping over|1 Well if the Brits could stop their urge to travel to other countries that would be great|1 I swear to God this bitch|0 Italian from Tuscany Ive been able to grab the last face masks at the hardware store yesterday morning before the hysteria hit but they were already short Some people are mocking the authorities and those collecting supplies some others are worried and wish they could stay home from work|0 One thing I wish they touched on is why if the case fatality rate is estimated to only be as bad as a bad flu season does everyone seem so much more concerned about the impact of this They make it sound like this really isnt anything very new for us|0 Stressing out over the coronavirus will make you more susceptible to infection Both lack of sleep and increased stress will weaken your immune system Its good to be informed and take appropriate precautions to prepare but otherwise you should try to go on with your life|0 Americans dont kiss each other in greeting spit in public or coughsneeze without covering their mouths as much and have a larger personal space radius than most cultures outside Germany so thats something at least|1 You see this is disingenuous Sounds nice but 23 over the age of 65 versus the average in Europe of 20 over 65 isnt massively different Im not denying Italy doesnt have an aging population its just that the rest of Europe by and large also has an aging population where the differences are 13 between them The difference with the US compared to the other European countries is around 5 and thats more significant than between Italy and other European countries|1 Well they just hired Reggie himself and he starts next month so well see if they improve at all|1 You got your wish|1 Yeah he has probably been tested several times but i doesnt matter because i dont think they would release the results anyway whether theyre good or not|1 Here people complain for not sharing info which makes sense But in S Korea people are complaining the government is doing a bad job because they can see the no of deaths and confirmed cases due to the transparency of information It hurts to see the reactions of the braindead|0 Nearly Im 100 positive this is the case|1 This is what healthcare for the rich and privileged looks like|1 No addional tests Are they waiting till GP dock to Oakland and passengers are bought to some military bases|0 My girlfriend works at a hospital and I hope she tells them to piss off Id they suggest this because shes high risk due to being heavily asthmatic Good luck to your dad my man you both got this |1 LOL|1 Doesnt matter if hes winning The DNC will just nominate Biden anyways Bernie conned all his supporters to believing and donating|1 Hey hey hey those tests cost MONEYNow excuse us as we print 15 trillion for the bankers|1 No dude Pence has always been how he is Hes a turd He killed so many homosexuals in Indiana with his health policies He literally created an HIV outbreak Dont defend him just because hes a shit stain next to a bigger turd|0 There are alot of instances throughout history where people who were tired of their government overthrew their leaders only for things to get worse They probably said the same things youre saying right nowso we should never have revolutions because it might be worse after the united states france and many many other countries were founded by revolutionaries i guess the founding fathers were just too spoiled to understand how good king george really was|0 Im gonna say goodbye now bc I generally dont find any common ground with people who dont talk about anything besides beauty boxes and pushy sales tactics Dont be so jealous you can grow up and have a real career if you try really hard too|0 Yeah I already told my boss I wasnt coming back into work until this situation gets better or at least put under better control|1 Average shedding rate for different severity of symptomsWe must have enough data even if noisy to get an idea of viral shredding with all the realtime polymerase chain reaction being ordered just to test people Unless the protocol is really non standard and the viral load is not being monitored in the PCRI am still going through the data release by the Chinese around last weekendPrevalence of asymptomatic carriersThe clinical data from the Chinese could give us an idea in ballpark outside the collapsed system in HubeiMinimum aerosolized particle sizeThe fomite persistence properties seems to be driving this over the scary airborne route But sureReinfection rate immunemediated responseI think the clinical data by the Chinese have some answer to the possible autoimmune response in the first episode of infection but reinfection is lagging in data due to longer recovery procedure in China that lasts at minimum 3 weeks or soR0 differences given climate health care system differencesChina is a large ass country there are stark regional difference in health care delivery and varying climate and diet|0 How anyone can possibly believe that he cares about anyone other than himself is beyond me Afraid that additional cases will tarnish his spectacularly awful response so farFuck off to the nearest bedbuginfested Trump resort and mingle with your golf buddies We have no use for you|0 Are they obese smokers Or just under 40 healthy individuals|1 Absolutely not There is no way to effectively guarantee security Paper ballots by mail is absolutely the best way we could vote It safeguards against fraud it is easily recountable traceable and extremely user friendly|1 NY teacher here and they just cancelled school for students but after Monday We will all go in for one last gathering on Monday Also the implication is that teachers are expected to show up or teach remotely No one is addressing how difficult this might be as the situation accelerates|0 How can we stock up prescriptions Pharmacies will only give you a months worth at a time|1 That paints quite a funny picture to be fair like something out of a skit|1 In general the government has a lot to apologize for From my understanding the citizens themselves bear no ill will to each other but the government has a responsibility Japanese citizens arent even taught about the holocaust in school and its only the college educated or the very old that can recognize a swastika|0 The massive spread in SK is largely due to a huge church cult SK managed to get it under control|1 Id end up with a cough for weeks sometimes sounded like I was coughing up a lung I went back to school at a later age and would have to leave the room to cough I didnt realize I could be heard in the classroom and others until someone came out to ask if I was ok|1 But you can not have shortness of breath and still be contagious|0 I mean tbf part of the reason it is that way is bc were so corrupt Republicans intentionally sabotage and underfund these agencies as part of the starve the beast strategyThey want you to lose faith in government so you wont blink when they start privatizing it|0 Eh I go back and forth on whether its a worthy cause but I just thought it was a bit misinformative to say the state will pay for it its free when its really taxpayers paying for others healthcare|1 Those two chinese tourists had been in italy for 10 days already and they were already showing symptoms when they were isolated|0 I now have a PlanetoftheApesesque image of the ruins of a Waffle House on a beach with someone shouting You blew it up Damn you Damn you all to HellPlanet of the Waffles Id watch the movie|0 When are lawmakers going to wake up and start holding the CDCs feet to the fire There needs to be PAIN down there NOW|0 You should care more about the well being of yourself and those around you than getting money back for NYC|1 IVirus app solved our problems|0 Yeah I didnt mean to imply they dont exist at all just that they are not the same as local GP practices in the UK and that most people go to larger hospitals for most health related stuff|1 Holy fuck I love having to scroll way down the comments section past all these stupid ArE yoU fRoM tHe fuTuRe comments Shut the fuck up|0 Lol What an idiot|0 Actually we all care very much the best thing we can do to boost our own economies is to help boost the economies of those underdeveloped countries|1 I wonder veterinarians have ventilators in many instances Would these be able to work for a human Veterinarians also often times use the same medications on animals as humans just in different doses Has any country or organization included them in calculationsOf course it would be a last resort but still a thought to entertain|1 If its like China pretty soon your doctor and dentist will both be working in a makeshift hospital|1 A lot of people pay cash in Japan too so good luck tracking down all those fares he took|1 Its because thats what killed people in the Spanish Flu Everyones super busy comparing this to that and worried that what killed all those young people in the Spanish Flu is going to kill them too But seriously we have to remember that this isnt that|0 We sat back and watch shit hit the fan and china did nothing this isnt all chinas fault grow up and admit that your own culture and governments have failed you Correct And i also hateblame my own goverment for there inaction and failure to respond Nearly ALL our goverments chose money and economy over the wellbeing of there people But trying to diminish or to downplay the the MASSIVE mistakes the CCP made in this outbreak is just disgusting|0 Yah Im not either so I bought a filter and attached it to my faucet But plastics bottles coming in plastic packaging is literally such a waste and so bad for the environment and unnecessary|0 If you start a new post with this question Im sure someone more knowledgeable than me could help you answer that Id leave off the fucked tho|0 Well if you as a youngish person get it it is likely that you might just feel sick for a few days and be done with it If you infect your elderly parents or grandparents they are more likely to dieSo what is worse Be sick for a few days or lose your family members|0 I will thank a nurse without stealing masks how about that And if I happen to locate an approved supplier who does have masks I will try to reserve them for nurses and notify the appropriate representatives of the supply|1 Thats a good point|1 For you it really is People over 65 have a 20 death rate to the virus|0 Sars was stopped but it was less contagious than this virus Also it died out in the heat which doesnt seem to be the case here Arent we taking more measures than we took during the SARS epidemic|0 this is some buuuuuuulllllllllllllshiiiiiit the last thing we need right now is to give a politician the ability to stop public health officials from making whatever statements they feel are necessary to preserve public health Just as we seemed to be about to pull our head out of our ass too and finally start testing and discussing this|0 I understand I wish you all the good luck in this world In bocca al lupo|1 Maybe we should pay attention to Science but not make Science our GodI mean we still cant even explain how gravity works|0 True There are no easy answers Thats for sure|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Bet the lifers are the ones that are sprinting the casual walkers have a couple of years to serve and the ones mulling around have a couple of months till they get out|1 Ive read that smokers are hit harder by the virus Is it a proxy for lung capacityrespiratory functioning Do people with better lungseg runners are better prepared to cope the pneumonia the virus causes or its more like a roll dice|1 So youve got the COVID19 spreading in the Vatican and then you are going to fly in 200 or so Cardinals from every corner of the earth in order to elect a new Pope and then fly them back to every corner of the earth Doesnt seem like the right thing to be doing during a pandemic|0 The issue is that people conflate compare with equate the same way jealous now means the same as envious|0 But we are still nice people|1 Because Mike Pence decided not to use the WHO test that are available in great numbers ready to go and instead decided for America to make their own test from scratchhttpswwwpoliticocomnews20200306coronavirustestingfailure123166|1 Just a Spanish flu|0 which posts are misleading in your opinion|0 Peer review takes time but so does infection Youre only just seeing resolved cases for Jan 31 now|1 All of the candidates are old enough to get taken out by it lmao theyre all almost 80|1 Good for you for being outspoken I got banned from a sub for posts but Ill be damned Im not seeing post after post after post equal to what I said on that damned sub I even asked about rescinding the ban Moderator said no I replied about the current posts there Moderator said their being wrong doesnt excuse you I said so you selectively ban people Enjoy your power Dont let it go to your head Fuck them Funniest Theyre looking for mods Assholes|0 Lol way to deep for me I guess it could be that wayBut on a different note think about this lets say you can live forever if we are not in a simulation what happens if you go one direction do you hit a wall or travel Im that direction forever lets even say you can travel faster then light I believe we live in forever and its crazy to think of something that has no boundaries Everything we know of has a boundary but space cannot cause even if you hit the boundary whats on the other side is it then boundary forever|0 They still get to own the libs so thats how it benefits them|1 If Im immune and my kids are immune whats the problem Legit question|1 Not the ones that are supposedly effective against Covid19 remdesivir lopinavirritonavir|1 Ireland here alsoMy school is preparing for lock down if it happens by giving us all emails for school wise So they can teach us at home|1 Japanese cases will take over Singapore within 12 daysYup Were fucked especially if any of those passengers who got off the ship have it|0 20 ventilators per 100000 in the US and you think this is about moneyEven if it wereguess how much is spent keeping the elderly alive Are you sure you want to go there|1 We all agree with you and hope everything turn out okay for them|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 US markets just had their fastest ever correction things arent looking great economically for the next couple of months200 moving day average is broken so we are in to bear market territory Could be another 1015 drop before we hit bottomGlobal recession is a real possibility by the middle of the year and central banks dont have any tools for stimulus|0 Stage 0 let everyone from hotspots arrive at the airport do nothing and let them freely mingle with the general population|1 Mortality rate is essentially unknown at this point given that we dont have an accurate count of infected cases or any real idea how inaccurate these counts might beAlso viruses tend to become less pathogenic as a pandemic progresses|0 There has been less than 600 tests done in the whole USAI would expect 600 people to be tested in one city or town alone by now thats an international hubIts like testing half a drop of water for a bathtub full|0 Cant get time off or monetary assistance without a diagnosis My company even said you have to prove you got it at work to get compensation Like how the fuck are you supposed to do that Site the time someone coughed near you and hope it was on camera|1 I heard that Italians leave their children with the grandparents very often after school The child contracts it and spreads it in school where the whole class is asymptomatic but their grandparents die like fliesMost Germans usually do not leave their children with the grandparents each day I visited my grandma for holidays only not on school days Currently we do not have many infected above 50|1 35x was the number without enough testing due to the shortage of test kit the real number was definitely much higher back then|1 hmm considering testing has been slow in many countries or at least the US that 179 could be significantly higher depending on which models u believe are most accurate in predicting true number of cases|1 Do you have asthmaanxiety I have both and I know one of my symptoms is feeling like I have an elephant on my chest and like trying to think about breathing I find that when Im distracted like playing on my PC or talking to someone it doesnt show at all but if Im sat reading about corona or thinking about my breathing it gets a lot worseId say see if you can ntoe when it feels bad notice if you see a pattern Im trying to distance myself from people because of my asthma anyway but am going to also keep an eye on my symptoms Annoyingly I have a constant bad cough anyway as in for the last 14 years so its hard for me to know if its that or corona Just be wary I say and if its actually like panting or not wheezy or just seriously struggling to breathe then call 111Edit to say I am not a doctor if you feel like you need emergency help please call 111or whatever number based on where you are|0 there isnt one but the unsaid one is always money What a shame they dont think of the probable future human as well as finantial cost in 4 weeks time from now eh|0 Weve discovered a number of foam fingers The pointing upwards of the finger clearly denotes ritual use We also discovered a series of wallsFuture archaeologist|1 Wear masksSingapore govt says not to wear masks so that will make matters worse if the citizens are compliant|0 I hate to say it but i live in oregon and there are shortages of N95 masks here|0 Yeah concerts are going to take a big hit this year I got invited to two recently thats a month out and Im like nope|1 majority of people will survive this even among poor people what im saying is poor people who die in the us can be easily replaced with poor mexicans who survive in mexico if needed its probably cheaper than trying to save americans poor people lives|0 Everyone needs to pray together ftfy|1 I feel relieved I was trying so hard to warn people and I was panicking that a looming disaster would overtake us because of complete obliviousness With everyone aware and taking action and precautions I believe we have a much better chance|0 Is it OK to say fuck yeah on this sub|1 North Korea gonna be the only safe place|1 There are three places believed to be possible origins for the Spanish flu The US Ive heard both Texas and Kansas as the starting point north France and everybodys favorite pandemic factory China In fact one of the theories of origin is that it originated in China as a milder form of the flu explaining why China wasnt hit hard by it everyone had already gotten immunity via the mild strain then mutated into the more virulent form in either the US or FranceEdit Whoops meant to reply to the comment one level up|0 Im embarrassed as an American that we dont have a working test|0 Makes you rethink your life since he helped others but didnt get helpI dont care about money either and Im glad helping when someone needs help but now I know it wont change anything Humanity is being lost every day|1 Love being free to get evicted and lose my job|1 My son has a runny nose Im looking at him like hes a little vector Lol|1 This applies to their reaction If there is no serious threat and they overreact people may not take them seriously If there is a serious threat and they underreact people die|0 To feed good data to computers probably|1 Fuck I live in Massachusetts|0 Get the times subscription Its really not very expensive Cost of one burrito to get the best news|1 I swear the world jumped onto a different timeline in 2016 The world just went to shit and nothing but insanity worldwide since I miss boring news so badlyEdit Check out the increase at the hadron collider in late 2015 They pushed it to the next level and blew us into another time line ffs This one is SHIT Maybe they could do it again and push us into a more Star Trek Next Generation kind of vibe even the Scott Bakula one would do|0 Huge change of pace of here right I still feel like an outsider sometimes|1 It was the same for me for the longest time And at one point I snapped and actually began a tirade about all of the peer reviewed evidence the fact that a country like China doesnt just quarantine the entire country over just a flu and showed them a lot of videos that came from inside Wuhan You know the ones where seemingly healthy people just topple over and die or citizens who took it upon themselves to close streets by dumping soil or placing other things or officials who actually welded people inside their homes in a last attempt of trying to contain infections I also told them that I was preparing for myself and only myself If I had more money I would have certainly prepared something for them too but since that isnt the case I could not give them anything once shtf here I told them that I love them but that Im not willing to endanger my own safety due to their lack of preparation for this Theres still time to prepare but if you dont and end up with nothing it will be your fault So act now and make sure that you can help yourself if it comes to your area That might have been the last nudge necessary for them and within a week I began getting pictures from several of their preps Showing people pictures and videos of empty grocery stores in China and Italy will help as well|1 If the schools were to close for everyone what would people do about child care Especially those working in the health services Shut the school to everyone then most people are going to take time off to look after their children Wouldnt it be more sensible to allow parents who can take their children out ie the unemployed people who have taken time off anyway or anyone not in the health service etc and leave the schools open for people who genuinely need them For one it would keep the numbers in the schools down to a minimum and wouldnt put undue stress on people who are already working their hardest|1 The nuts will not divide us|0 Now this is some grade A bullshit|0 That was a wise comment|1 Italy reports 10 as well though|1 I agree its a great idea but working in a sterile environment I sometimes have to use surgical masks if Im assisting in our vet clinic and was told the whole point of disposable surgical masks was to prevent bacteriaviruses from getting OUT rather than getting in Surely if they suspect theyre sick regardless of what it might be the sensible thing to do would be to stay home Ive looked into getting an antibacterial scarf that I can cover my face with on public transport as I do that with my normal scarf anyway and I use hand sanitiser too There was a silver lined one on Kickstarter many years ago but Ive never been able to find anything similar I cant help thinking flu season in general would be over quicker if people took basic precautions anyway hand washingsanitising tissues covering their faces when they cough and sneeze or just staying home rather than mindlessly scrolling through their phones on public transport whilst coughing all over everyone|1 Yeah my mistake China has been 100 transparent and honest thought out this and every other issue They also say they dont have concentration camps theyre reeducation centers|1 Lets hope its not a re run of the Black Death Ive heard that covid19 is closer to smallpox than anything|0 My sisterinlaw just shared on Facebook that the whole coronavirus panic is the perfect fascist plotby the Democrats|0 Theres no limit here on how much sick days you can take What if you have cancer A pneumonia for a month with this new virus Get the flu twice Your kid gets the flu after you do|0 Put him in jail Jackass|0 two 39 years old people died|0 I think thats unlikely to happen Yes this seems to be more serious than the regular flu but even during the Spanish Flu pandemic which happened after years of food shortages and rationing caused by WW1 people werent murdering their neighbors for food If it does happen its more likely to be a result of panic andor fear than actual food shortages but I think its very very unlikely|0 They probably already know shes a cunt|0 You need to take this lowball IFR number right to hell right where it belongs We know the percentages and the reality is with the median ages of many western countries the well known public health issues such as obesity and the known percentages of mild vs severe vs critical cases combined with the lack of NPIs in many western countries the overall IFR is not going to be as low as some are pie in the sky dreaming To claim otherwise is as unscientific and dangerous as what the US administration is doing right now If we do not get this under control the numbers are going to look exactly like the 34 that the WHO updated to Everyone here listens to the WHO until it doesnt comfort them anymore There is another subreddit for that In reality we need NPIs and realistic policy and communication at least two weeks ago but now we are already on the train to disaster and all anyone wants to talk about is unconfirmed dreams of seasonality which are debunked by actual experts on coronaviruses and low death rates which do NOT line up with any established numbers in situations lacking extreme NPIs Even in SK with their NPIs we are going to see a spike in cases and deaths Be realistic and deal with reality Or go to another subreddit that is meant to help calm you|0 there lucky than a leperchuan|1 Theres no guarantee the economy bounces back A recession was talked about before the virus Look at the imf comments from 2019|0 Where are the models Petitions have been made asking for the data underlying their models and nothing has been releasedThe simple fact is there are no models of anything Models acquire meaning when enough data has been acquired to make them realistic and there is simply no dataThey are all groping about in the dark|0 What specific complaints do you have with their methodology|0 Spanish flu|0 christ how can the CCP be so stupid thesw are desperate times and they are literally just making chinese people angrier and angrier instead of doing nothing and letting people just mourn Many officials are caving their own tombs now chinese social media is already heated and they keep censoring stuff like if that was going to actually help akd not make people madderUnless this is some elaborate plot by members of the party trying to throw Xi out by enfurating the masses I fail to understand how they can handle the political side of the virus this badly|0 When do you think it will be safe I have something planned in May|1 This feels like the beginning of a Chernobyllike event where a series of weak judgements lead to a serious fuck up|0 Could be evidence that the previous flu theory for the 1918 pandemic is correct That is 1918 flu would have killed all age groups equally via cytokine storm but older people had a natural immunity granted by a previous flu in 1889 |0 Everyday it looks like it was intentionally released to depopulate Youtube is still blocking all conspiracy videos that are reporting facts and trying to wake people who to the dangers of the virus|0 Same When this stuff started getting serious I started looking for answers and I checked that sub first After 18 hours of depression and anxiety that the world was about to end I dug a little deeper and found this sub It was like a breathe of fresh air pun intended compared to all the virus panic over there|0 How about more people have died from the regular flu than coronavirus during the period of time corona has been around Who gives a shit Its a fucking flu Go grab a beer relax and dont waste your time worrying|0 People were looking at you weird I just went to Costco California and they were out of bottled water Yesterday all the baskets had bottled water some as many as 25 or so cases on dollies and like 10 packs of toilet paper Crazy|0 The silver lining is that my kids will live The thunderstorm is that I may die|0 This seems much less likely but theres no good way of knowing for sure|1 agreedadding the swear makes it inappropriate for me to send this to my workmates or older family members etc|0 I did Even having used one finger on a touchscreen washed my hands straight away Although Im not counting the box that may have germs on it |1 Bro Im literally saying I feel bad for any Poles who want to return home because their government are doing more than the UKs but then are unable to if their home country bans flights from the UK to Poland Chill Who knows why my statement has been downvoted Im not saying expel poles lmao Im having sympathy for any who want to leave the UK back to Poland bc this govt is doing fuck all but then may be unable to unwilling incase they take the virus back to Poland from the UK But whatever be touchy|1 I mean yeah its not gonna be cheap to get a personal meal delivered to your house Its not supposed to be a bargain if you would rather pick it up yourself youre free to do so|1 1 The twitter bio says he is a scientist for fredhutch which is highly respected so I would assume he knows what he is talking about 23 It seems like the working theory is that if this is true a lot of people have had mild cases in the last 6 weeks because there have not been an uptick in hospitalizations This would be good news since most people are thinking there is a 20 chance it is serious symptoms 456 At this point its a waiting game We dont have enough data to see how this is going to play out It could be swine flu 20 or it could be more serious like the Spanish flu I think the main thing right now is to just take precautions but dont fill out panic until we get more data|1 That rate of normal vaginal canal transmission doesnt reflect the rate of transmission for female rape victims though since there is more tearing and physical trauma that allows for easier transmission|0 its 2020 a lot of people can work from home but a solution would have to be figured out for those who cant take off work with children getting infected and becoming contagious while showing little to no symptoms along with their terrible hygiene they are going to be spreading the virus everywhere|0 I think being selfish is normal Everyone should be selfish from time to time thats okay Also you being aware of it literally makes you not selfish you know So dont worry |0 Its estimated 40 70 of world population will contract this virus in next 2 years Be prepared for door to door testing and rolling quarantines|1 Too many carbs so he needs to cut down on the KFC and Maccas|0 Id fully expect it to be deducted straight from your refund next year in full|1 thats good to hear|1 Hello This is a mod Can you please post a link to this to authenticate Thank you Verified|1 They have to keep modifying the vaccine every year due to genetic drift of the strains If this wasnt the case we would have already eradicated the flu|0 Hes being sarcastic I believe|0 Only near the bottom of that link does it finally say vitamin D3 was used Thats significant because vitamin D is a group of secosteroids and they are almost always lumped together as just vitamin D In reality D3 cholecalciferol is much more effective and bioavailable than D2 ergocalciferol including prevention of mortality in adultsThe type of vitamin D matters D2 isnt necessarily harmful but it may not be helpful either Try to find D3httpspubmedncbinlmnihgov24414552vitamindsupplementationforpreventionofmortalityinadultshttpspubmedncbinlmnihgov24414552vitamindsupplementationforpreventionofmortalityinadultsEdit to add this study showing vitamin D3 nearly twice as effective at increasing vitamin D levels in the blood compared to vitamin D2httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed18492750httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed18492750|1 I live in Marion County OregonWe have one confirmed case but Im confident we have many nonconfirmed casesI dont want my daughter going to school but the school district and state is being practically passive about all of this and wont close the schoolsIm in my late 30s and have hypertension treated with medicationIm also worried about hospitals becoming overcrowded which is likely to happenWhat should I do|1 What hes been able to inspire The twenty thousand engineers and 40 thousand support staff have done the producing|1 I am in the third world I doubt we need any help from you or any other Redditor Spare me the condescending bs IF anything is China which has helped the most a country totally reviled here|1 Please do not postcomment links to other unrealiable subreddits You can check out our trusted sister subreddit repidemic and rcoronavirusI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im giving China shade for faking numbers to save face nothing to do with lack of testing Trust me they are kidnapping plenty of people off the streets for testing|1 I havent watch Containment but I will definitely watch it now Thanks for the suggestion I have been in the medical field for 18 years You usually get reminded of the risk of a Cytokine Storm right before the Influenza Season kicks in|1 Thats actually a good pointwait a minute Bernies 78OH FUCK|0 Kind of you to sayI think your sentiment is so accurate that we can start right now I actually feel that reality pressing in on me That somehow its really important to be different and ask more of myself right now starting with this epic moment we are experiencing To be more attentive Challenge my thinking and maybe be a bit more vulnerable to the change that is happening Ive been on reddit for awhile and mostly I have just hung out in the baseball subreddit Lol Now I find myself having things to say in all kinds of places and listening more intently to the things others are saying Its never easy the attempt to be better but your absolutely right now is the time|1 i dont wish for the dead of anyone but there are some politicians and CEOs i kind of want to see in that list|0 And in 20 days suddenly everyone was dead|0 I believe the purpose of slowing it to lower the curve is to allow medical staff to keep up If spread is unmitigated we will face a disaster like Italy which is now being forced to triage patients and halt care on people with a low survival chance to focus on those with better odds The slower the trickle of new cases the better equipped the hospitals will be to treat them It can be assumed many if not most people will get it before there is a chance to make a vaccine and if no precautions were taken everyone would be sick in a matter of weeks Not only shutting the workforce down but ensuring theres 0 chance of being seen and treated|1 Exactly 5 mio since 8th decemer Why are we not seeing any cases I myself think its because the incubation time is 200 years Just wait and see in 200 years all of us living today will be dead|0 Before focusing on correcting the misconception will point out those living in rural areas are generally healthier than those living in pollution laden urban centers In 2013 a street level bill board showing a clear sky was erected in Beijinghttpscdncnncomcnnnextdamassets13013016311203beijingsmog0130horizontallargegalleryjpg The misconception is your thinking I was comparing rural to urban when I was comparing eastern to western|1 Actually Im taking the angle focused on the workers that produce those materials usually with harmful processesI also dont think only plastics are harmful Youre blatantly making things up so you can feel better about yourselfHowever I am done You are disgusting since you think this is how you can speak to people Its not just your actions that utilize harm its youGood bye|0 Saw someone at Costco wearing one lady behind her goes they dont realize its just a flu She may have been talking about mask lady or me with my 10 packs of TP|0 Its even more outrageous that hed say this knowing that we are all waiting for the next shoe to fall We deserve to know what the hell is going on|0 As an American you should ban us soon Well be Italy in weeks|0 But if we were late to the party how do we know we are interviewing the right people|1 Spain had a similar case where the nurse stole 300hundred mask for his small village but got caught lmao|1 Shouldve been a war on complacency instead of war on panic Panic isnt going to a grocery store True panic has not been seen in response to this virus but everyone sure felt smug posting a daily reminder not to panic and how masks dont help while the virus spread and spread|0 I was a Costco yesterday and was pleased to see no sampling Not that I partake in them unless its wrapped chocolate of course It made pushing the cart around so much more pleasant b|1 Wisconsin I work at Kwik Trip On Saturday there was people coming from over 30minutes away trying to find eggs bananas toilet paper and soap We were crazy busy Sunday we were slightly slower but more people asking about hand sanitizer eggs and soap We ran out of soap But we still have plenty of eggs and bananas I know my store was running low on all bread though There was a lot more scared elderly people shopping though I was surprised to see them shopping but I assume its because they dont have anyone to do it for them so they have to stockpile and go indoors for as long as they can Im just concerned we are sanitizing once an hour but I am still interacting with over a hundred people every time I work an 8 hour shift I cringe every time I see a parent let their kids cough every where Hell I have seen grown adults openly cough on products we sell Im waiting for the first person in my area to test positive Im also a college student at UWSP They extended our spring break until the 29th Then we are going online They told us they highly suggest we go home But they arent kicking us out of the dorms Im staying in the dorms because I have younger siblings at home and I dont want to risk them getting sick with how much I interact with other people I know UWSP after the 22nd though is having the dinning hall open for limited options for the people staying on campus like me Some of my regulars that are nurses that come in later in the night were telling me that they are on lock down Dont know much more than that|0 Ive lived here for over 15 years This is complete BS Reading things like this in this sub help to put things back into perspective for me as a reminder that without a source I have to take everything in this sub with a grain of salt This country isnt perfect but there is no way I believe they would cremate a foreigner without the family knowledge and not provide information on cause of death|0 Schools should have been closed the second there was a case in the county they were in the majority of student come from Now Im in so deep I cant self isolate with my asthma because I need to get as much of my coursework done as possible|1 Hahaha thats the comment I wanted|1 Sorry but thats why I said you sound like one Ive seen more than enough people spread Sinophobic sentiments as a result of whats been going on Lots of people who take this opportunity to just be rude and racist towards Chinese people|0 I really feel terrible about this happening to businesses A lot of mom and pop takeout places will go under because of this|0 yay I can find out if I am going to die|0 Please be aware that information found in the subreddit linked in this comment may not be reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 O no he died because of the virus too bad Wonder how that happened|0 A combination of public and private hospitals Public hospitals overcrowding and long waiting times you still pay a small feeAFAIK only public hospitals can treat the SARS cases since it required negative pressure rooms|0 New Brunswick province just sent all nonessential public servants home as well as closing schools and daycares NB only has 6 confirmed cases I think its going alright all things consideredit about the curve right Not complete control|1 WHO Well its not really a Pandemic until literally every country on Earth has confirmed community spreadEveryone else But by then its too late to do anything so whats the point of the declaration after the factWHO Because then no one can accuse us of being wrong|0 That is still helpful Thank you so much|1 Yes Many people already are in major cities|1 WHO advises that it is better to isolate earlier rather than later So at this point its all up in the air really|1 Maybe he meant best of the developing countries|1 Theyre probably not in Orlando but Orlando just banned all alcohol sales at restaurants and the like|0 Gross in any context Use a napkin|0 Great idea|1 These examples may be suggestive of all the viruses well never know about because they appeared at less perfect times and didnt successfully spread|1 China has no problem running people over with tanks Thats because nothing will happen Hell they run concentration camps and nobody cares The only thing that matters to China is the economy|1 As far as mitigating further spread travel restrictions do not do so they only delay the onset of spread but dont decrease the overall number of infections over the course of an infectious disease Again as I mentioned previously people can lie about where they have been or by finding ways to sneak through border control Travel bans are unethical violate international law and are harmfulhttpswwwwiredcomstorytravelbansandquarantineswontstopcoronavirus Is slowing down a virus useful Definitely I dont think thats a worry anymore since its coming from EVERYWHERE now Bad reason to not do travel bans Lets say that I agree with your assertion then its time to stop all trade and movement at Canadas largest border with the US and Washington state in particular Who cares about the thousands of people who cross the border every day for work or the businesses that rely on that traffic along the way Its possible that the WHO and epidemiologists are wrong and since youre obviously intheknow for something that they dont know I think you should reach out to them with your evidence and reasoning so as to change their recommendation on travel bans But until that happens I believe Politicians in Canada should follow what the experts sayIn general evidence shows that restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions Furthermore restrictions may interrupt needed aid and technical support may disrupt businesses and may have negative social and economic effects on the affected countries However in certain circumstances measures that restrict the movement of people may prove temporarily useful such as in settings with few international connections and limited response capacities WHO on International Traffichttpswwwwhointith2019nCoVadviceforinternationaltrafficreven|0 Graph 1 Number of infected Graph 2 Ages of infected Women in yellow Men in green Map prefectures with cases Graph 3 Number of cases by prefecture Hokkaido is at the top Amateur translation not wordforword|0 Would you be kind enough to link to one of these studies or stories|1 There are many models to look at what will happen That article is based on a set of assumptions derived from Influenza and it doesnt match what has happened in China or even South Korea So we need to be humble about what we know but it does appear that social distancing with testing can get the cases down to low levels|0 Tell them to watch Contagion|0 In 23 weeks we will have more understanding of how this thing works and how to adapt to it while a curevaccine is developed This thing is totally out of control and spreading like fire We need to take big measures to slow it right the fuck down to allow institutions to catch up Then we will have a better understanding and can make better decisions But yes expect things to stay closed a bit longer They cant stay closed forever though We need to keep going with life|1 Paramedic and emergency Management grad student here Your response is pretty accurate I had to study FEMA throughout my program and thats an example of a government organization that cant free itself from bureaucratic intervention A large number of disasters that affect the United States yearly are natural disasters weather events wildfires etc But thanks to 911 the focus and funding shifted to counterterrorism which is a legitimate issue but no where near as prevalent as flooding and wildfires A lot of the case studies I had to review involving FEMA boiled down to bureaucratic mismanagement and lack of appropriate funding and resources Basically when hysteria dictates our policy then inadequate decision making and ineffective coordination takes place|0 I too want to scream Its a horrible feeling of frustration disbelief and helpless My husband wont even talk to me he literally ignores me when I say anything to him Feel like our worlds about to turn upside down and no one can see past their noses Just glad I have this sub a problem shared is a problem halved|0 httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutdiseasespreadhtmAccording to the CDC its person to person More studies may be needed to confirm the original study cited in your source materialAll the hospitals I work in still assign droplet precaution to patients with the flu This is current best practice until more evidence is available|1 40 to 60 of the US population will infact contract the novel virusSource dr sanjay gupta cnn just now|1 This is maddening If they didnt know how to contain this they should have offloaded the passengers from day 1 or 2 and work with each government to fly the passengers back to their homeland like what the UKUSCanada did to send Wuhan residents home They show both incompetence with arrogance by sticking to a ineffective strategy|0 Great news I would be interested in reading this Thanks for sharing|1 Im going to make quizs then ill videoconference call my family abroad and family here Scotland and make them fall out and have full blown apocalypse level arguments just to help take their mind off things|0 Ive been here since the end of January Im in Seattle and Im scared Were going to be Italy in a week The rest of the US and world isnt too far behind us|0 And how did that work out for them Does daytoday life seem pretty good and prosperous these days The thing is even if there are short periods of stability in the end this sort of thing will always happen when dealing with the CCP In the end the CCP will always bring suffering The sooner they accept that fact the sooner though be able to fight back against it Edit downvote all you want but you wont bring back the lives of the millions of people killed by the China Communist Party This is a fact|0 If they cant test everybody the critical and dead numbers will be off too Somebody who dies wont necessarily be included in those stats if it was not previously confirmed that they had the corona virus|0 The consequences for children are similar to the flu so in school this is a reasonable statement even if it is an oversimplification It is not true for all of us If your teacher is 50 then their chance to die is 1 in 250 if they get it but keeping parents and grandparents safe is the main challenge|1 I know its out there but makes me wonder if it was engineered to effect certain groups more so than others Not necessarily intentionally released but exploration as a bioweapon to target certain genetic populations Its interesting that Iran has had such an explosion of cases I get that they werent testing but shutting down a city means it has to already be really bad|1 I get this Things have slowed right down at my job and it has been very difficult to keep the wheels turning with such an uncertain future ahead of us I am certainly guilty of being a disaster theorist but Ill be damned of I let my internal panic destroy what Ive built for myself over the years Just do your best with what youve got You may feel that what you do isnt directly helping the situation but it seems that your employer sees value in you being in work and I think you and others in your situation just have to ride it out for the time being Ultimately we need to take care of our own wellbeing first and part of that is keeping roofs over our heads and food on the tableHang in there stay safe and healthy|0 Just wait until they realise the deaths will increase exponentially too|1 Just installed rosettahome Not sure if I need to do anything else as far as specifying anything It is currently using my computer though|0 Are they on carpet in that second shot Whos gonna be on cleanup when one of them potties Janitor is gonna be like Naw you guys let them out|1 16 So generous lol|1 and like really how do we know there wasnt another person standing nearby at the time of that interaction who gave it to both Gobert and the kid|1 Your small financial aid is great But seriously Trump about to declare a National Emergency for 42 billion in funds this afternoon Time to step up your 1 billion contingency plan Justin|1 whats life without some humour|0 Do you recommend taking walks Ive been extremely careful but am going to need to spend a little time outdoors|1 I genuinely laughed when I heard Trump was banning all travel from the EU Before this is over it will be the the EU and others banning flights from the US|1 For those who watched Contagion government coverup like this are going to lead to more Jude Law conspiracy characters In the film the head of the CDC kept information secret to the public regarding the severity of the disease while deciding to warn his fiance first about the threat so she could seek safety Government officials routinely in the film served the interests of their close ones and the financial elite various governments refusing to issue warnings due to holiday shopping time not the general public they were supposed to put first and as a result of that mistrust snake oil salesman like Jude Law received massive audiences Our government is an inept to think that keeping this secret helps them when in reality violent disorder happens when people lose faith in their government which is on its way to happeninghttpsyoutubeNgDJqekisms|0 Why you guys keep using redditEveryone knows qq owns reddit|0 For gods sake isolate yourself after you arrive No sense starting a new outbreak in Ohio|0 I know I just mean that sometimes scary situations bring out the ugliness in people I was just trying to be kind and show solidarity|0 Nah mateits just the flu When will the ostriches realise if they keep their heads in the sand theyre going to suffocate|0 Hardly anyone cares about this in Chicago and its kind of disturbing We even have cases here and some schools closed but Ive read people saying things like oh its over in that part of the city or its in the suburbs its not even near me My spouse says its just a massive joke at work|1 Quarantined have gradations Its not always complete isolation Often its keeping zones apart I believe Italys allows for essential travel Food etc|1 I guess so Whats the problem with it though Its nice to have some good news stories even if it does happen to make the CCP look good by extension|1 In that case why dont you just go out and lick door handles Why wait We dont need people purposely making this worse faster than it needs to be With help from this type of attitude most definitely it will spread no matter what Stand aside and let those of us who are not throwing in the towel fight the fire|0 Tbf it looks like Philly either learned their lesson or killed off all carriers So its like the lottery big sum up front or small payments over time|0 Nobody cares what the CDC says Its a regional health organisation|1 Then lead with that not withThey reopened churches just because they need the donations Im sureThat just makes it all look like a bad faith argumentNow the papal statement seems quite clear on not opening the churches for masses and other massed events but they cant really do much if a random priest in North Italy refuses to shut down their church If the first statement on the closing of the churches didnt affect it what can the pope doOf course Id be glad to have a decent clarification from the church on what this means but until then I cant see this affecting the situation too much if those churches that have closed dont host masses and other large events and take decent precautions to only open themselves for silent prayer|1 I hope you are okay and are self isolating|1 Completely relatable Im in Australia and went out for valentines dinner with my wife and 1 of our kids yay tonight I watched as one guy openly sneezed with no coverage and then the guy sitting beside him constantly wiping his face We went out to a burger place and everyone of course was eating with their hands and licking their fingers My other daughter went out with her BF and they ate sushi Also eating with their fingers Noone in any of these places had washed or sanitised their hands before they shoved that food in their mouths I understand now why the Chinese government has imposed quarantine|1 There are students that are still planning st patricks day parties too this really isnt going to go well for Canada|1 Maternal mortality has been increasing in the US for 20 years while it plummets in every other country in the world We are paying more and more for worse and worse outcomes across the board|0 WeI dont know about you but ive never even seen a pangolin in my life let alone gotten a virus from it|0 Yesterday I heard someone say as long as youre not weak youre fine this guy was 60s talking to someone older than him|1 May I ask you a serious question related to this What is up with one city complaining they got their food delivered on a garbage truck|0 Irmas is a local joint not a chain Damn good food Its a Houston institution From friends who have worked in the industry by all reports they treat their people well Generally tips are pooled and split between waitstaff bar staff and the kitchen|1 Looking at the latest numbers both US and Italy it looks like were probably 3 weeks away assuming nothing changes in the US Today were about where Italy was on February 27 but taking into account the geographic size and population difference its not exactly a 1 to 1 correlation I would assume the hot beds in California Washington and New York are at the epicenter by late March with other major metro areas starting to feel the pinch by early to mid april|1 Access to food will almost certainly be hampered or non existent for a period as prior precedent suggests I dont really count food prepared and packaged 1000 miles away to be a valid negation of my comment Preparing for a discontinuous food supply by being prepared with survival food for a few weeks to a few months is common sense I would have thought|1 Its interesting this all falls under force majeur act of God impossibility clauses etc A lot of contracts wont be enforceable because of those provisions|1 Cheek kiss greeting higher proportion of elderly is my guess|1 Maybe I dont wanna be the bad guy anymore|0 Its why you need booster shots sometimes The body does not store specific antibodies for diseases it doesnt see often forever which can mean the virus can repopulate quickly before your body naturally restores its antibody count for that virus|1 Yep The idea that this would be contained in China was unbelievable|1 Regular fruit is made of stuff you cant pronounce It has nothing to do with the food and everything to do with the fact that chemical words are hard to pronounce|0 Its always been their unspoken motto honestly Damn near everything they do is some execution of it Crumbs for the masses while they consolidate more and more upward The specific regulation and funding rollbacks they are always doing are the most blatant examples|1 No But people tend to hang out there which is super weird and they have a big event on Saturday Im really hoping our state does something before then because I really dont want her to get sick|1 Not a bad predictionthat or India Funny detail here is that the US would be the last country to obtain it and then only via the black market or day trips to Mexico and CanadaE I should add that this is a biologic this is not at all a normal drug so there are so many complicating details|1 Ive read that the New York Times wants to contact people who wereare turned away from hospitals and clinics because their symptoms didnt fit the strict criteria|0 Add no vaccine and much higher contagion R0|0 The Spanish flu of 1918 that killed between 50000000 to 100000000 people worldwide came in 3 stages It was the 3rd stage that was by far the most virulent implying that the virus had mutated within that year and became far more lethal The numbers speak for themselves See here httpsyoutubeUDY5COg2P2c|0 Lets hope for a sunny warm springsummer|1 In general the requirements are that your employer isnt calling you in or you have to stay home because the govt has shut things down eg you work at a broadway theatre that is now closed Also to care for a family member|1 So I agree that this is a necessary measure but I am curious as to how he can legally do this Doesnt the first amendment guarantee the right to assembly Or is that only in regards to political activism|1 The ULTIMATE appetite suppressant COVID19I lost 14lbs in 2 weeks|0 Imagine the racism when the full blown pandemic hits people may even shun their own race|0 Your fiancees sister should lose her job from some natural lets say virus causing a slow in commerce and when shes hungry you follow her around with SHAME signs to fill her stomach|0 There is a shortage though Im a nurse and we actually have had trouble getting masks because theyre back ordered And weve had patients steal whole boxes of masks too|0 I really respect him though Ive heard opinions of him in NY arent as favorable|1 It doesnt make any difference where theyre quarantined as long as they are Why not hereIf you had been stuck on that ship would you rather be quarantined on a US army base in Texas or Georgia with other NonCalifornians or quarantined in your home country|0 AhNow we are talking Yes the whole face mask comment from the VP about masks not working was stupid I think they totally work With regards to the comparisons to the flu I am frustrated every time someone uses the estimated infection and death numbers for the flu and compares them with the Covid19 numbers I think we agree here I do a lot of my own research and preparations for the crisis I dont trust everything that is being said by the administration just like I dont trust everything being said by the Chinese Gov|0 Perhaps As I posted in another replyFor ten infected people spreading infection 2324324213 is an average R0 of 26But youll get that same average with this sample of ten 00000123713ie maybe theres a much larger standard deviation with R0 than what we get with influenzaRemove the 7 and 13 from that list and R0 drops all the way to 075 and spread fizzles quicklyETA The latter scenario superspreaders dominating growth of the virus would be one where social distancing prohibiting large gatherings etc would seem to be most effective If superspreaders are denied access to large groups to infect R0 will plummet|0 Hm you seem to have a bleak view of humanityBut honestly this system works in so many places eg the Uk Germany etc why shouldnt it work for the USI mean sure if working conditions suck then I get the urge to take advantage of this but maybe then this should also change|1 Millwall hasnt played Wolves for two seasons|0 Lol well see|1 Pneumonia is not fun|0 Surely theres a strong possibility that the travellers were in the infected countries before the outbreak happened Theyre hardly deliberately putting people at risk if thats the case|1 how on earth are chinas numbers more unreliable than the US US has number that dont mean shit|1 Well what could possible go wrong with that Maybe take a lead from France The Paris Marathon has been postponed to a later date French media is reportingAccording to Le Parisien the race which was supposed to take place on Sunday 5 April may be held in autumn insteadAbout 65000 runners were registered for this year the paper saidEarlier today the French health ministry said there had been two more deaths from coronavirus in the country bringing the total up to sixIt added here had also been 92 new confirmed cases since Wednesday the biggest oneday jump in the number of French cases since the outbreak beganThe total number of cases in France is now 377|0 Thats a very deceptive article The budget for the CDC has remained virtually the same since Obama left office The CDC chose to not prepare for covid19 and downplayed the risk long before Trump started being his typical dumbass self and downplayed the risk|0 Cant have confirmed cases if you dont test for themThis is exactly my fear We dont have enough tests nor testing therefore way under reported and worse infected people thinking they have a cold or the fluThe other thing I see happening is its only people with preexisting conditions And what about those people Ironically it feels like a communist viewpoint akin to the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few from star trek but the sentiment is the same|0 Water softening adds some minerals to the water but this would be pure dry salt right on your face It seems like it would dry it out if done enough|1 Stopping millions of kids going to school doesnt stop them existing it just makes them go somewhere else Most parents work and those parents who cant afford daycare will turn to elderly relatives to watch the kids sending them straight to the only group at serious risk of dyinghttpswwwmotherjonescomwpcontentuploads202003blogcoronavirusdeathrateriougif Closing schools is citywide and starts on the same day Instead of helping we could cause a surge of dangerously ill elderly patients to overwhelm hospitals Tminus 13 to 17 dayshttpswwwsciencenewsorgwpcontentuploads202001012420tscoronavirusinline1680desktoppng later The elderly are just about the only ones that present with CV19 triggeredARDShttpswwwredditcomrATHXcommentsf107ixhowcoronaviruskillsacuterespiratorydistress requiring a mechanical respirator our scarcest resource We really really want to avoid a wave of elderly CV19 patients all hitting city hospitals at once A sudden surge of elderly patients is what caused the Hospacolypse in early Wuhan and the disaster were seeing in Lombardy Healthy kids are at zero risk from CV19 themselves and their workingage parents are at nearzero risk Leaving them where they are may save lives Sending all those kids to ad hoc daycare just reassembles large groups of kids back together again all day no better than they were at school and possibly worse due to daycare scenarios having less age separation causing higher viral mixing Having one or both parents stop working to stay home with kids will make things worse because 131 of workers are in the healthcare professionshttpswwwchwsnyorgwpcontentuploads201604BLSHealthCareEmploymentProjections2016pdf and there are many other professionals we cannot spare without serious consequences like delaying the respirators masks PPEs medications etc we need to save lives To fight CV19 we need ALL our doctors engineers scientists programmers logistics IT manufacturing and delivery people at work solving the problem not stranded in the wrong town because of an Italystyle lockdown or stuck at home watching kids because some school board was panicked into closing schoolsIn part Im responding to the stampeding mob over in the evil step sister subreddit to this one screaming Close the schools right now close the highways bridges and airports invoke martial law like its unquestionably the best and only thing to do Its like using a sledgehammer to fix a problem that needs a precise scalpel Suddenly changing something so big and so integral to a tightlycoupled system like our modern society without a replacement plan will trigger unforeseen consequences downstream possibly very bad consequences Yes we have a significant threat to one of our essential systems Healthcare However dropping nukes on adjacent essential systems like Transportation lockdowns and Education school shutdowns doesnt fix anything longterm Everyone still gets exposed to CV19 eventually But dropping those nukes will certainly break things Things we need now more than ever like manufacturing shipping and supply chains Were facing a new invisible threat Yes it seems scary but we need to resist the instinctive reflex to Hulk SMASH Problem Right now we need to be less like the big green guy and more like Dr Bruce Banner solving problems with insight and ingenuity Im not saying we shouldnt evaluate all options but were talking about massive civilizationwide disruptions Its not just flipping a switch that can be flipped right back again Repercussions will be immediate and reverberate for years If the emerging hypothesis that CV19 will be wide and mild in North America is correct at what point do the costs and unknown risks of such tectonic changes make more things worse than they make better Below 3x seasonal flu CFR Below 2x seasonal flu CFR|0 That and government grants are more likely the bigger the perceived threat is|0 The worldwide effects will be massiveThe vulnerability of the container shipping supply chain has been repeatedly and painfully exposed but as 2020 gets underway the industry is facing disruption on a scale not seen in its more than 60year history as a result of the coronavirus COVID19 outbreak in China httpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscreatingunprecedentedcontainershippingdisruption20200221htmlhttpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscreatingunprecedentedcontainershippingdisruption20200221html The domino effect of factory closures and other related supply chain disruptions stemming from the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID19 will have major downstream ramifications for container shipping demand equipment availability and rates httpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscontainerimpactspreadfarbeyondblanksailings20200225htmlhttpswwwjoccommaritimenewscontainerlinescoronaviruscontainerimpactspreadfarbeyondblanksailings20200225html The port of Hamburg expects trade in China to decline this year due to the corona virushttpswwwndrderatgebergesundheitCoronavirusFragenundAntwortencorona100html The background to this is that numerous companies in China have now shut down their production or closed entire plants Gunther Bonz President of the Port of Hamburg Business Association estimates that up to 100000 fewer containers than previously thought will arrive in Hamburg from China in the coming months httpswwwndrdenachrichtenhamburgHamburgerHafenCoronavirusbeeintraechtigtChinaHandelcoronavirus178htmlhttpswwwndrdenachrichtenhamburgHamburgerHafenCoronavirusbeeintraechtigtChinaHandelcoronavirus178html|0 Theres a lot of Chinese gov posters lately it seems Noticed if I ask what happened June 4 1989 or if Tibet is free of China they stop responding or wont answer Actually had one say a lot of people died who deserved it They are here trying to push a narrative hard Even more than they were with Hong Kong|0 Faker the god of mid lane oh good old time|1 Nobody is taking advantage of anyone No mercy Sounds about right|1 He already said hes starting to feel better You can get a regular flu and feel nothing at all or feel like absolute shit and everything inbetween this virus is no different|0 How are all this celebrities getting tests yet they are limited to the general population |0 I dont think all but 5 of cases have been getting lots of medical care China where the vast majority of cases have been from has certainly been overwhelmed So how are you determining that so many are getting adequate medical care|1 If THIS is useless what about other European countries that are barely testing people|0 Yeah selling facts that are completely made up eg story about Legasovs friend who discovered the flaw in the reactors before the disaster and ended up being gulagged for that or something is just dramatization and definitely not propaganda|1 Thats what happens you you put unqualified yes men in office That election was a bigger deal than anyone realizes We the USA deserve this fate|1 Regarding the average age of the fatalities there might be an additional factor that you are not considering Im not an expert on this topic but I would expect that within the people who die from this disease young people tend to survive more time in the ICU than old people Therefore there might be a significant number of young people that will die but are still in the ICU|0 He uploaded Where is this uploadThis one looks really serious but I learned to wait for confirmation|0 Do medical staff not have children There needs to be some form of care for these children to keep people at work|1 Oh please let that plastic surgery barbie Ivanka and barr the walrus get the disease|1 Yeah I agree with the guy I commenting onI am awoken to the dogpiling of woke peopleLook at my knowledge and awareness|1 Medical workers getting ill is the worst case scenario even more so than lack of beds If theyre unable to work then there will be nobody there to help and most people who are in the hospital arent there for the virus but for other things broken limbs different diseases cancer burns etc They wont be helped either but maybe infected as well if the docs and nurses dont realize they have it|0 You need to get on some new subs friend|1 Right I worded that badly and meant vaccines I didnt know coronaviruses are mutating that rapidly Guess thats one more thing to get used to And we could have stopped it But we dont because money |0 I know But until its passed its still a failure of our government Hope they pass one soon|0 Well sort of The Chinese were totally clueless While we havent been testing and getting on top of the cases here are a few things we do have going for us 1 knowledge that this is a problem so we can change our behaviors2 First world sewer systems 3 Soap in almost all public facilities 4 Much fewer community style eating events and higher food safety standards5 Less population density 6 Canceling of some not all large public events where super spreading can take placeThere probably more So keep your spirits up However tread with the knowledge that this isnt a problem that will ever go away At some point everyone will either get it or get vaccinated The sooner you come to grips with that the easier it will be to manage your feelings and expectations|1 Theres gonna be an emergency stimulus bill for affected industries like hotels and real estate maybe Kushner can head the department|0 Is everybody infected flying around in airplanes attending rock concerts hanging out in crowded airports and teaching huge roomful of kids This is like the plot of some crazy b movie|0 I studied medicine and they actually had medical math courses that dumbed down the math so that the doctors could pass the courses The excuse was that the courses taught math applied to the specific field but all it really was a reduced curriculum that allowed calculators and other handicaps not allowed in the engineering departments I later transferred to an engineering degree and had to retake the math courses so I know the university didnt even consider them equivalent courses|0 Korona19 sounds way nicer than covid19|1 They did know gov decided it was not worth it|0 You should consider leaving her once shtf shell be a liabilty survival is more important than love|1 Only if you dont understand what a basic human right is Conscripting labor or resources from other people is called slavery|0 China at one point had 57000 active cases We arent there yet If they turned it around then we still can if everyone can be convinced to actually try to stop the virus|1 Government plans are rarely more than colourful PDFs on some forgotten website Plans rarely survive first contact with the enemy at the best of times they tend to be plans to fight the last war the default plan for 2019ncov will be the same plan as SARS or swine flu Plans must be adapted rapidly from lessons learned about this specific virus and they must be repeatedly iterated|0 I heard saving face was an important thing in far east countries but this is ridiculous|0 I agree with Bernie sanders now is the time to be working with the Chinese They manufacture the majority of our medical supplies If you pick a fight with them right now You will not win |0 Not everyone gets along with their families And remember criminals also have families|0 Well shoot I guess I should go tell all my colleagues in China and Italy that they are actually deadIm willing to concede that the numbers from China are probably bullshit but then what is your basis for the amount of deaths Do we believe sk Because they only have 42 deathsIf you dont believe the official numbers than what numbers do you believe|0 Vaping is a big and legit industryThere are also countless retailers mixing crap in their kitchen that they bought from Alibaba and are selling to people there are also teens vaping FENTANYL there are also a huge variety of blackmarketdarkweblocal trade THC CBD DMT etc vape cartridges Vaping is literally leading kids to vaping FENTANYL in schools My fiances school had to expel and obviously they were arrested several kids in the past month for vaping fentanyl during the school day|0 Go get tested at what point How many people might infect their friends and family if they take the test too early and show a negative or too late The incubation period is wide as far as we know|0 Im American so if they had us stay he for a month we would have to fend for ourselves without any gov help|0 Wow this is stupid|1 Almost like people freaked out over nothing|1 No offence taken My question is also not well posed My point is this new virus has the same spike protein sequence as the engineered one This could be a quite strong indication that something went wrong at some point|0 Looks like it Bangkok Kuala Lumpur Damascus Moscow Amsterdam Dubai Baghdad Najaf Barcelona London Doha Dubai|1 Does anyone have a different source of similar opinionsresearch please|1 Kids yes they absolutely should stay But Adults need to work If we all stay home then economy collapses and that far worse|0 I understand it was a week ago but Im just going to refer you to several comments up the threadAs a nurse I have interacted intimately with hundreds of people including people with various cognitive impairments and all of them think criticallyI live in the most diverse city on the planet and I have a wide variety of human experiences I dont really have a bubble I assume nothing of anyone I meet irl I dont assume a person I meet will have heard of reddit or even the concept the concept of an internet forum as many of them havent I have regular contact with people who are illiterate who cant use a computer But they are often very smart people Finding the smarts in people different than myself is something I had to learn how to do cause it isnt taught to many of us I dont think its something you have yet learned how to do but maybe you could if you applied yourself OTOH feeling smugly superior is very comforting|1 What advice would you give to someone who works for a company thats decided to listen to the CDCs and the WHOs advice for the outbreak I fear being treated like a tinfoil hat wearing lunatic when in reality all you have to do is a little digging to see the botching of the United States response to the virus All I want to do is fight for selfquarantine working from home and my company hasnt so much as mentioned it|0 Yup Banks only loan to low risk outfits like to the Oil Extraction industry the airplane makers and flyers the cruise lines health care companies and obviously funding the US government debt through TBill purchasesRock Solid babe|1 Quiet down man you dont wanna be going against the America Bad sentiment on reddit|0 Its nothing new Dont know if its everywhere it should be Take this study from canada as example 1999 Dec Forty eight of 52 Canadian hospitals utilizing an OC participated Clinical activity at the surveyed sites of 1996 included 30642 surgical operations 9415 intensive care bed days and 364529 emergency room visits The cumulative survey represents 1026819 hr of OC operation During a 24 hr day OCs operate 55 3 of the time Financial analysis was validated at 43 of the 48 hospital sites During the study the unit cost of oxygen was reduced by 62 P 0001 An annual increase in oxygen consumption of 115 2 was documented P 0001 No patient care critical incidents related to OCs were reportedhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed10608216|1 Some aspects of society will never change Greed power and the need to follow have long been a staple of society sadly|0 Honestly makes me feel lucky that I live in a country where if a police officer is being a dick you could tell him to fuck off and the most hell usually do is tell you to fuck off back|0 Mark Rutte PM of the Netherlands detailed basically the same plan as Boris Johnson on Monday evening an attempt to try to gain herd immunity through a managed peak of the Netherlands outbreakBoris has since seemingly snapped out of it after predictions of about 500000 deaths with no intervention and 240000 with a managed peaklike the Dutch seem to be planningIt seems to be obvious that such a plan of action would severely overwhelm the medical system in the Netherlands but I havent seen anything more out of Rutte Boris vaguely requested a voluntary lock down but he is scared of angering his mates in the insurance industry I dont know about Rutte but it seems theyre both putting the economy before their people|0 Its fucking blowing up in Iran right now and hardly anything in the news You can put two and two together and see that multiple hospitalisations and deaths in Iran combined with the known incubation period and infectiousness theres a lot of undetected cases out in the wild there and the chances of containment are rapidly diminishing given that it must have been spreading there while noone has been monitoring flightspassengers in and out of there Many places still have a policy of only testinglooking at people who have China contact I had a text message from my GP UK to say not to come to the practice if you have flulike symptoms and have been in contact with various countries in Asia but no mention of Iran this seems like a huge oversight now given this new and vital info I live in a very multicultural area too so likely a fair amount of local travel for people in my area between the middle east African countries Europe etc in the last month as well as a big international student populationNot much in the news noting this barely a mention of the Iran situation on various news sites I looked at today Seems like either a gross oversight or something deliberate Like its really fucking big news if you are monitoring this situation and looking for clusters popping up this is worrying It highly suggests a lot of widespread quiet infectious spread in an asymptomatic period and has implications for other countries being caught off guard when only testing for people who have contact with China or other Asian countries Im sure a lot of countries havent been monitoring or testing people flying in from Iran there is potentially a lot of spread reaching back several weeks as the recent cases in Iran have been severereported as dead which suggests they have been infected for up to a month Thats a lot of possible spreading in the meantime|1 It depends I have myself said that we dont share the same letters as neighboring countries to people and they didnt know I dont understand what you want I didnt take anything from the joke itself Please move on from something i have nothing to do with I repeat myself I was referring to the comment that put down harmless information as something boring I dont think we are on the same page here Unless you are just trying to be an ass which Im leaning towards that you arent|0 Well be alright We got this brother|1 Its unfortunate that Bernie Sanders is having a rally in downtown Chicago on Saturday even knowing the risks associated with community spread in large crowds Quite selfish of him especially as he has been correctly critical of the Trump administrations handling of this outbreakThis however pales in comparison to Trump saying people who are only a little sick can still go to work Hes a fucking idiot|0 I did It was about 10 days after I found out she cheated Horrible freezing rain ice storm decimated utilitiesWe were going to be down for about 5 days When it hit 40f inside the house we packed up our pets and went to a hotelMoney was tight We begrudgingly shared a room 3 days and night stuck in a hotel room with a 20 year relationship crumbled at your feet I barely made it out of that situation tbh I couldnt imagine this guys situation|0 Of course we are 3 americans are now in the ICU Which gives us about the same numbers It is putting 2030 in intensive care|1 Explain how she is a hero|1 Your taxes go to corporations And will increase to bailout again Local stuff will get little funding as Trump limited the deduction Roadwork not completed here in the past three years This year I am going to complain|0 its not one of the fastest and most friendly tracker out there|1 What can you do aside from prep and hide|0 I watched contagion today Probably wasnt the best idea as its left me quite spooked I have faith in the Canadian healthcare system and current plan of action But I am terrified for those in the States I could see them going through similar situations like that ones that happened in the movie And being the country that is so close to them scares me a lot|0 This is why early quarantine is or rather was critical for European countries The outbreak will not stop and eventually almost everybody will get infected but the most important thing is to spread the infections as much as possible so hospitals can help those who are sickRight now in Italy they have to decide which patient is worthy of a chance of survival a lot of people are simply left to die because theres no resources to help them|1 Even her name makes her sound like a fishwife complaining about her husbands dick while malleting the brains out of some poor haddock|0 This sounds like a headline from the onion lol|1 I was homeschooled all throughout middle school and Highschool The trick is to always wake up early and start early Also we always did extra to a have a day off on Friday Idk if youll be able to do that but it really helped us Good luck|1 Yep China is truthful and transparent about everything They are the best China number 1 and USA number 0 Nobody is safe in the US come to China and be free and safe and protected by the best and most humane government on the planet China number 1|1 Yeah I know that But the disinfo out there never mentions the dilution which is like 5100001 and when diluted and used properly is harmless Anyone interested must read the actual protocol not go by a few short comments here|1 Even a very mild cough or unwell feeling is still symptomatic It doesnt help much of course since as you observe very mildly symptomatic people are still going to spread very readily but asymptomatic means truly asymptomatic|1 So if youre in the EU and were slated to fly back home You have to stay in the EU for another monthMy brother is currently in South Africa The spread isnt bad there but I wonder if he should catch an early flight home|1 Then why arent we seeing more cases per day Incubation period has a max length of 14 days the average is much lower Not everyone was infected on the same day and everyones body is different Therefore we should be seeing much more cases than we are now But we arent|1 I am in the Philippines right now Manila only positive average age is 257 So hopefully a lot less strain on the healthcare system|1 Makes a world of sense Interesting|1 Putting a focus on taking basic precautions recently has made me realized how damn filthy I was before I mean I showered daily and washed my hands after going to the restroom but I used hand sanitizer probably less than 100 times in my life and aside from after using the restroom would wash my hands in only the most extreme cases Like I wouldnt even wash my hands routinely after the dog park I dont know how I rarely got sick with that mentality The one bright side to this scenario is that it looks like its going to be ongoing long enough to make this renewed emphasis on hygiene a habit that sticks|1 I complained and posted as hard as I could but even Dr Campbell fell for it|0 It is just awesome how people can behave like this and have no self awareness as to how theyre viewed by those in the communities they post in|1 sorry no one want to live in communismsocialism fantasy land If you want you can move to Cuba|0 Wont get fooled again|1 Its safer than going in for sure but still not at all safe With the lengthy incubation period and number of contagious people who are asymptomatic the only safe thing to do is to assume everyone is infected|0 Can we start discussing how many tests were done Against his many are infected There are more meaningful numbers than just those who are infected|0 Human beings are horrible with numbers probability and risk In general|0 Well its not a legit business so its illegal from the beginning No taxes no records no license|0 The little paper ones dont work and the true n95 ones are very uncomfortable if worn correctly they are hot and hard to breathe through|0 Excellent|1 Look I wont dispute the argument that its cause they are celebrities and or pay for the test But in a way its kinda good Its getting taken seriously now that people like NBA players Tom Hanks and Idris Elba have it Its that dumb celebrity worship|1 Rumour mill says Long Lake Crazy rumours from all the companies in the patch Production cutbacks project delays contractors not wanting to be on the hook for paying camp quarantines|0 The NHS will have Operational issues soon healthy 60 year old or 40 year old with asthma who gets the oxygen|1 Its starting to feel like thats what they want A purge if you will|1 The reason people stock up is because we dont have confidence in either federal or state government Our political leadership keep sending mixed messages and nobody knows who or what to believe anymore Stocking up on staples is a natural reaction|0 This goes against what the FDA and CDC have written on their websiteThey are just covering up their own lack of preparednesshttpswwwfdagovmedicaldevicespersonalprotectiveequipmentinfectioncontrolmasksandn95respiratorsEdit A member of the Washington State public health team also said that we should preserve masks for people who wear them culturally Im not making this up it was in the live conference yesterdayTheyre trying to shame you into not wearing masks|0 Am I at higher risk if Im recovering from a different virus especially one that caused a lingering cough such as flu|0 Similar story here We received an email from our boss Monday night about the new plan Half of our staff is gathering materials to work remotely from home tomorrow We all have allotted times to come get our stuff and leave before the next group IT is setting up videos to instruct about how to use some of the new online software we will be usingI wasnt sure if they could figure out a way for us to work from home but I am so glad they have been strategizing so much|1 No the local chinese government was incompetent and did not do anything and let everyone run away They had plenty of hospital beds and the rest of the country could have sent them the supplies earlier but they totally ignored the problem Thats why the central government had to get involved|0 Thats not true Average is 45 days|0 I was exposed to someone with a confirmed case of COVID19 and am relatively ill now with a fever cough etc and my doctor told me my health Department wont test me unless Im hospitalized This is in Florida Im home from college with my parents who are 65 and immunocompromised This is so wrong|0 It sounds like alcoholism The last person to discover that they are alcoholic is usually the alcoholic Everyone else sees it but the person affected is usually the last person to realize the truth|1 Looked up the number of US fatalities as of this morning 14 13 in WA 1 in CAIf you assume a 1 fatality rate well that will correspond to 1400Current status 233 1400 233|0 100 agree I think it is safe to say that those 80 on these meds will always have a poorer result than middle age people on them Not like they are keeping all other medical issues that seniors may have in mind|1 Fox has been downplaying it and calling it a hoax all day every day up until the last couple days Its 100 them|0 Someone suggested that the homeless might be forcefully placed in old abandoned malls if things gets bad enough ostensibly for their protection|0 Make a infograph for easy sharing|1 Because you want to abuse what is being put in place Already a limited number of tests available and you want to make it worse You should be banned here for this crap|0 Noone is saying it isntBut when information is withheld and not given when people are allowed to blindly go into an event it inevitably causes more harmWe give people advance warning of a coming hurricane here in the States This is a National emergency one in which for the first time in history we have the technology to prevent or limit the damage from a PandemicOur leadership is failing in that task and it is blatantly obvious why Stocks and moneyItaly is a prime exampleAs soon as people started to roll into hospitals panic set itPeople were not preparredGive the people advance warning and let them decide|0 I already own a rubber halfmask respirator and have experience using it for toxic gasses situations but have a feeling a biohazard situation like this may be differentFor gasses the cotton particle filter part can be reused because the charcoal filter below collects all the bad stuff but Im concerned that for an active virus it might be dangerous and dont know if the filters can be sanitizedIts just these filters are like 15 bucks a pair and it would get pretty pricy to reuse them but Ive spent hours searching for answers on 3M and so on and cant find any infomods I know this question may not be appropriate for this thread but if you have any ideas where I could ask if not here please let me know|1 Lets also not forget that OP made up a bullshit title The CDC budget has increased in each of the last three years Are the mods just sleeping|0 Do you also like LARPing Heres your chance|1 No the US government has just become drunk on their own coolaid since the Soviet Union collapsed The pragmatic diplomacy of the Nixon era is goneThe US neocons mistook the collapse of the Soviet Union as a sign of American greatness when in fact it was the result of Soviet mistakes The American establishment drew exactly the wrong lessons from the collapse of the Soviet Union The correct lesson is that even a Superpower can self destruct by doing stupid things The lessons that the American establishment drew was that America is blessed by God and can do no wrong|0 It only infects gay peoplesPence will denounce trump as gay|0 Update good news daycare case test was negative|0 Iran went from no cases two 2 to two dead and then five total cases in a day Plus with 2 infections from Lebanon and Canada suspected of originating in Iran Does that not make you think those 5 cases are just the tip of the iceberg|0 Ive always wondered what it would be like to be this dumb It doesnt look like a fun time|0 Hardest part is I want to Quarantine myself but it feels like not too many people are taking it as seriously as they should It was a long ways away when it was in China its not in China anymore I feel like I cant self quarantine without damaging work and personal relationships with my absence But if the government officially came out and laid out some rules based on scientific fact then I could stay home without the guilt or damage that couldwould be done Tough one|1 Id say I was just on a business trip to China and figured Id be the one helping you out and see if that shuts them up|1 I wonder when will Dr John Campbell just you know mysteriously disappear|0 My five year old just recently had pneumonia after a bad upper respiratory cold He got better from the upper respiratory problem and then the next day looked way worse and the doctor said he had pneumonia He went back home took antibiotics for 10 days but seemingly felt better after a day or two of the medication I definitely would consider that mild at least in the definition of what pneumonia could be I imagine there are some cases of COVID19 that lead to secondary infections like pneumonia that get treated like this and are considered mild|1 welp i guess our authorities are doing the right thing with opening new hospital before it was planned just to treat covid patients and isolate suspected cases and building another one using framed structures for the same purposecurrently 10 infected in my region one of them already recoveredEDIT all imported cases one completely asymptomatic and looks likely to stay this way since she flew from affected region back in 20th of February|0 Well Im against down voting just because I dont agree with you You make a good point I just dont see how they are going to validate |1 I dont personally know any docs in Italy so the best I can do is notice the trending reportshttpswwwredditcomrAskRedditcommentsfgachytothosethatliveinitalyhowisthesituationfk3lmbrutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf that yes they are sometimes having to make decisions of who to treat and I have to hope that people would not say such a thing for fun|1 Fuck giant douche Shit sandwich will clean up this mess|0 Global economy Thats your concern Were a global species We are a collection of vulnerable animals that learned to use money The priority in a pandemic should be the survival of the species The economy will always recover regardless of how bad it getsIt cannot however recover if were all dead Closing borders is the simplest and most effective means of containing an outbreak Its not an isolationist ideology Its an ideology of anyone with half a brain that can see were entirely ill prepared to handle this Stop worrying about the economic impact and worry about your parents and grandparents|0 Your post historyYikes Blocked|0 Very good summation of crucial info Thanks for sharing the link|1 Also its important to remember the Korean outbreak was largely contained to one group the cult members in one region Daegu That mass testing open info about where the infected had been made it a lot easy to catch all the cases and prevent future ones Unlike in Italy where cases are among the general population and spread out|1 come togetherSays 2 guys standing in an empty store with a generic random crowd sound effect added and a few actors thrown in the background at a safe distance|1 Damn you had me for a second|0 I hope your mom gets it|1 Got a vasectomy last year suck it covid|0 Whats the lowdown on the erased recoveries What constitutes a recovery to BC|0 Half the people in my city could go hospitals and thered still be plenty of roomActually no they wouldnt On average there is approximately 1 bed per 350 people however most of these will not be beds suitable for handling people with a contagious disease Whilst the beds exist there are not necessarily the medical personnel to deal with an epidemic eitherIm glad you can see youre doctor as needed many people cant though the waiting room is usually full of peopleAnd if people panic they will be even more full mainly with people spreading the flu|0 Misleading title Casi attuali 17750 2795 da ieri Thats 2795 new cases|0 lol the us is a democratic state meaning everyone votes and has power not 1 person|1 The main difference is that in the US companies have more rights than people whereas in Norway people have more rights than companiesThat means companies tend to actually compete against each other in Norway because just exploiting the fuck out of their customers employees isnt an option|0 Some of the people in the state yes but our governor is doing a great job under the circumstances so we can at least be proud of that|1 High rates of smoking and terrible air quality I think contributed to the higher rates of severe cases No one talks about the pollution being a factor but I imagine it is|0 I know this is only a drop in the bucket but maybe some folks will benefit from sharing this I think the job will come with benefitshttpsblogaboutamazoncomoperationsamazonopening100000newroles|1 It seems to me that the virus can kill because of a mutation I think that if there are many cases of the virus in one place then a person can get sick with several versions of one mutated virus at the same time or immediately after recovering from one get sick with the next version and because of this the disease is more difficult to carry|0 Contact your HR department or line manager in writing Express your concerns and quote medical professionals Also try to contact the highest level of authority you are able to reach in your company with the same concernsWhen its all said and done hopefully you will affect change in your company if not you have one hell of a case for negligence|0 Do I leave it plugged in when microwaving it|0 the reason is so you can know if that 25 year old hugged their nan lately if they havent they should be told to wait at least 2 weeks|1 I feel bad for hoping that this is the case but these thoughts have crossed my mind as well|1 They already have CNN saying that references to China as the source of the flu are slander|0 Hes fine It was just a knock out punch He was doing heavy gaspingbreathing as they threw him out of the building I didnt really care enough to check later|0 Colorado has been doing a good job Well need to close down nonessential businesses soon but were on the right track|1 And corbyn is 70 surely he should be in quarantine |1 This is not as common in modern ciities like Beijing or Shanghai anymore but it could be in Tier 2 cities It most certainly is still common in rural areas|1 Test often and test early Tested are free Hell maybe we need to pay people to take themCan we not shave a tiny bit off that administrative overhead in our fat USA government|0 OH has been leading shutdowns quarantine efforts with a Republican governor but he seems to be an outlier And not overall Hes pretty typical R in other things Just ahead of most states on this D or R I wonder what convinced him that isnt swaying others Hes been the first in a state with relatively few positives comparatively on many issues|1 Damn Seasonal flu wipes out entire families all the times|0 Oh fuck|0 mass recruitment voluntary or involuntary of non sick people this is a war|0 It makes sense though and its what were doing here too You tell people that if they show symptoms they should assume they have it and isolate themselves only calling the doctor if they have serious symptoms This then frees up resources to test and deal with the serious cases|0 this is clearly a China shill account |1 36 roentgen not great not terrible|0 I think they want to feed it to us slowly so we have less time to think about it and potentially freak outIts the boiling a frog thing If you try to boil a front by putting him right in a boiling pot hell jump out The right way to boil a frog is to put him in a pot of tepid water then slowly and gradually turn up the heat By the time he notices hes boiling he cant jump outIts all the way in ChinaChinese cities locked downVery few cases hereMore cases here And there and there Its ok weve got it under controlMaybe buy some rice and keep your gas tank topped off not that theres anywhere to runThe following is hypothetical Non Chinese Asian cities locked downCities in the Middle East locked downIts ok thats far away and you havent been hereUS military erecting field hospitals Just in case No worries Its just an exerciseOutbreaks in US cities Its ok those cities have big airports some cases are to be expected Cases showing up in rural community hospitals Knock knock bitchesI dont think our country will collapse but people will die They dont want people knowing until its in their backyard so they dont panic Most people wouldnt prep even if the WHO told them to Maybe in other countries that have known more recent famine and war but not here|0 No its how a percentage of Americans behave The rest of us are sick of it too|0 Ah yes because you donated more than 25000 right|1 Dont read The Stand I just did and freaked myself out and Im not on a jail boat|0 Youre in Devon too Lol|1 pornhub premium is now free in Italy apparently I do appreciate that pornhub is an ethical company|1 Also the second oldest populace in the world Not meant to downplay but it could be part of the reason of the high number of fatalities|0 Its all fun and games until you live in Arizona Nevada or Texas|1 Most of the papers written that mention HTN correlation with death dont even adjust for age The one that I did see where adjustment was made Zhou et al there was no correlation after the adjustment So it may be that HTN is just a proxy for age|0 What the fuck is this lol it sounds so made up |0 Is there a place to see the number of cases on a given day eg to view historical data for Italy for number of cases on March 6 March 7 March 8 etcEverything Ive found online is a snapshot of current data|1 Denial is survival If we are in extreme emotional pain we cannot hope to survive for very long Just look at how people with a history of many ACEs turn out|0 I know I had no other symptoms and had some major anxiety that can trigger coughingachiness had this daily and cough disappeared at night I did try keep my distance from them Likely I was asymptomatic for a whileGod forbid my couple hours exposure wont do any damage to them but the situation we met was more complicated due to another situation|0 No Mercy httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvS9uTScSgzrMfeaturesharehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvS9uTScSgzrMfeatureshareI find it kind of annoying that this sentiment is like real shit now I want people to grow up but theres no obvious button to push Fuck this game The mechanics are shit|0 As a native of the beehive state this really infuriates me No NBA players are not above everyone else Just cancel the dumb games until this ends Why do you need to test them all Meanwhile critically ill cant get tested|0 Kudos to Japan for widespread noncontact testing The USACDC needs to start doing this instead of continuing with their narrow guidelines|1 Been watching his daily informative videos donated as well I like that hes using printer paper to make presentationWe need to go from reactivity to proactivity |1 There isnt though and the suicide rate skyrockets during mass layoffs Then theres increased alcohol consumption from the stress that causes more health issues You can say that shouldnt happen but that wont change anytime soon|0 As soon as they announce the checks coming for sure theyll announce a lockdown|1 Shrink it Call Amazon to tell them to take it back No we didnt receive it it was broken stolen and was purchased without our approval|0 Oh I personally enjoy the theory that China did it to cull their elderly population But nah nature scary fo real|0 If we dont receive any whatsoever this link could very well come in handy|1 I wish My brother and I have tried so many times over the years Shes unfortunately very stubborn and set in her ways |0 And when they arrive back home I doubt they will self isolate immediately even if suggested to Obviously theyll head first to fill up their gas tanks with low gas price and then head to all the grocery stores to hunt for items needed because theyve been away and will need groceries Stay away from everyone out there |0 What about vaping I would think that would have a lower risk since its not actually smoke no|0 When he infects your family members or results in the death of your parents let me know your opinion This isnt an asymptomatic case that did not know better time for being Nice all the time is over|0 You cant be serious Lol|0 Yes This is true but its just impossible to count those numbers Such an insane situation to be in|0 It is the numbers the WHO uses It is the current working numbers It is prone to change but as long as we dont have better data its the numbers we use So you say the WHO is dumb Maybe you want to do their job Are you smarter than all of us|0 Including a strong cult of personality|1 I spent over 10 years working in Customer Service for telecommunication companies and the level of stupidity you have to deal with is unimaginable and I dont think people understand that if your broadband goes down the world doesnt endSome of my favourites were alwaysMy kids are bored and kicking off get it fixedFirst of all learn to parent I say this as a parent myself and then understand that the majority of Internet Service Providers rely on Openreach to fix external faults Openreach take up to 5 days from receiving their report to fix a standard issue however it can take a lot longer for things that require dig work etc My WiFi is really bad Im going elsewhere for my broadbandThats fine but before you do that you should know that your router is currently showing 10 devices connected to your cheap as shit basic broadband package you paid for which gives you about 6mbps or roughly dial up speeds on each device Stop being cheap and upgrade to a faster speed for more bandwidth or stop connecting everything under the sun like your kettle to your WiFiI cant access not a porn site because it has an 18 filter can you remove itYes Ive disabled it remotely for you on your account enjoy your por I mean gambling|0 I like how the Democrat mafia is already trying to demonize Trump for not doing things fast enough but they werent crying for anything at all to be done up until this point Other than a select few really far right leaning politicians who were quickly labeled as fear mongers everyone in government was blowing this off Now the finger pointing is already starting and what that tells me is that they realized they fucked up and its already too late to avoid catastrophe were already fucked and all they can do now is push the blame on someone else Politicians being politicians the first thing that they do is whatever they need to do to protect their political power after the dust has settled|0 Yep and people will say well sucks for your business shouldnt have got from ChinaOut of the nearly 100k employees we have how many do you think made the decision to get the materials from China The average worker doesnt have any say in it and I do my job because it pays my bills Imagine hundreds of thousands of people in the sector being unemployed Its terrible and I cant imagine what other job sectors are going through|0 Yes there are a few extremely rare accounts of novel coronavirus infecting the brain as well|1 60 of 70m population x 1 mortality rate at best more than 400000 deathsIts a cull If China announced this strategy it would be widely condemned as a form of genocide|1 Yeah if we are going on just the reported numbers in the US the case fatality rate is something like 5 We know that it should be less then that unless it mutated so obviously we are missing a ton of cases which is going to explode eventually|0 The real tragedy here is that your name is so cool yet youre oblivious to how youd have gladly voted the nazi party into power in 30s Germany|1 Nope heres the latest research its 705 now but Chinas measures put it down to 324 httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022434v1 so if its left unchecked in other countries I doubt they will be able to put such Draconian measures as China|0 Story of my life and very happy about it|1 Theres nothing lighthearted at all unless you are 5 yo|0 See thats a form of natural selection I can get behind I dont believe that might makes right but humanity being brought to its knees by a pandemic would be poetic justice for how humans have raped this planet and killed everything on it|0 I wonder where the balance is between price gouging and underpricingLooking at this US auction from February the market value even in bulk seems to be about 785 USD per maskhttpsgsaauctionsgovgsaauctionsaucdsclnksl71QSCI20292041 If it were priced at 2320 pack I could imagine people hoarding and reselling them for profit and all available masks disappearing in the blink of an eyeYes they could hypothetically have purchase limits per person but its difficult to enforce and manageIdeally the masks would be priced at market pricing and the excess profits donatedJust my uninformed ramblings|1 Is it though Honest question If someone has pneumonia whatever the cause and provided the medical system isnt overwhelmed they should get treatment I dont think they are only treating COVID19 induced pneumonia The only difference is that its like a contagious pneumonia but at this point hopefully they are treating all patients as contagious positive test or not|1 Id like a drive through But like Brew Thru if anyones ever seen the drive thru beer stores You go IN the building but they come to you Seems like a good way to keep those germ buckets we call children in line even in normal times|1 Obamacare created this problem I had a great affordable plan with a reasonable deductible before that buffoon put the government in the healthcare business Medicare for all will not solve the problem The government is too incompetent to handle it|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19|1 Im conservative AF and I take this pandemic seriously It sounds like your father has Optimism Bias No matter how good the government is or is not at dealing with this pandemic the responsibility of taking care of oneself eventually falls to the individual Keep talking to your father until it sinks in Governors of a number of states mine included NC have declared at state of emergency FOR GOOD REASON It is better to be over cautious and nothing happen than be cavalier and drop dead because your though 3everything was going to be fine This is a nasty bug created in a lab to kill people It should be taken seriously|0 Actually thats not true the NYT just published this article yesterday httpswwwnytimescom20200221healthcoronaviruscasesusahtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200221healthcoronaviruscasesusahtml CNN just yesterday httpswwwcnncom20200222asianovelcoronaviruscovid19updateintlhnkindexhtmlhttpswwwcnncom20200222asianovelcoronaviruscovid19updateintlhnkindexhtml I do think people are pretty uninformed though but its more to do with the massive amounts of information and news plus the bubbles of information people are stuck in with social media|0 She thinks shes still fighting sars 1 Its sad and dangerous|0 I dont really understand this it doesnt sound like you can easily avoid the virus just by staying home I mean you still need to get groceries from somewhere right presumably you sometimes visit a gym I work from home but I dont feel like I can just avoid the virus|0 Its good to donate medical supplies to other countries but I heard that doctors and nurses in China dont have enough supplies I mean shouldnt they take care of their citizens first And where do these medical supplies come from|0 Mild with supportive oxygen presumably We already know that we can support small numbers of people with low O2 stats The problems start when there are more infected than there are O2 sets|0 He did say that no doubt but the nuance involved is actually that the BSI seem to have written that letter assuming that herd immunity was the end goal of this plan when actually its a probable side effect not the end goal This was clarified at the weekend The Governments plan isnt dependant on herd immunity You can find it on the Government website 2011 UK pandemic response plan The current plan is a slightly tweaked version of it to account for the fact its a coronavirus outbreak and not an influenza outbreak|0 Im no fan of his but if the President of the United States comes down sick right now it will rock the country and shake the world People still in denial will all have their bubble burst at once Things would be really bad|0 best of luck|1 Nonono you see UK experts on this topic are THE best in the world and thus UK strategy is undoubtedly the best one All the other countries have it wrong|1 Looks like it is making a comeback then|1 On behalf of others thanks As many as possible should be doing this|1 The president of the United States can declare a National Emergency which gives him about a hundred sweeping powers including the use of the military in civilian areas to contain and control citizens Here you gohttpswwwbrennancenterorgourworkresearchreportsguideemergencypowersandtheirusehttpswwwbrennancenterorgourworkresearchreportsguideemergencypowersandtheiruse|1 Yeah Everyone I know in medical profession is saying it I work at a hospital Wife is in the ER My brother is 1st year Resident I know a lot of providers Our hospital has thankfully been preparing for weeks and we live in the county with the most cases We got shut down last week before our state did Its real|1 I have a weeks worth of dehydrated breakfast meals that I know from camping are delicious Its hard to leave them be|1 No that is false theres infections in every province in China before wuhan was closed more than 500000 people flee the city by train alone the day before it took the other cities to monitor everyone very rapidly to keep it on control most China cities posted suspected cases everyday Whenthey had around 20K infections they had 200K suspected cases and maybe 5K released from quarantine and when they reached 50K they had 500K suspected cases and 10K released from quarantined They had these figures readily to keep track of the growth rate meanwhile Italys fast rate of infection was quite unexpected so they shut down too late but they still did it because thats the only way to control it|0 I mean I dont know Should we really worry about the virus We have the Government and the hospitals shouldnt we be ok|0 South Korea was so decisive and quick that they could test to find the chain of contagion for each patient and they quarantined the people in contact with the infected They were really quick they had the previous experience with MERS or SARS cant remember and they are home to a lot of big laboratories that make tests so they had the ability to test I believe it was 20k people a day or week Those conditions do not apply to the States where the virus is at large so the only way now is not going out unless necessary for food or medical attention|0 This fellow Oregonian wishes you good fortune Hopefully this shorty situation will end up being the catalyst for something even better|1 What I think some people here dont take into consideration is that it is not only exponential growth but a delay of weeks between the infection and onset curves and the ICU and death curves Think of the case of the German couple when they were infected is afaik still not known But they had symptoms pretty mild ones for 2 weeks and particapted very actively in social life over that period A few days ago they were at a carneval party As of today now both are confirmed both have pneumonia and the 47 year old male who was getting cancer treatment is in critical condition with respiratory failure in the ICUThat could be a three week delay or more Also In the onset curve of the big chinacdc weekly case study the peak is at 25 Januar short after the measures got fully into force on the 23rd see httpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51 fig 3 curve for onset the number of current severe cases peaked 34 weeks later in a flatter manner the number of critical cases and deaths also peaked around that time see httpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsd1Z7VQ5xlf3BaTxLBBblsW4hLoGYWnZyog3jqsS9Dbgchtmlviewsletrue Tab Hubei After that it goes down quickly as also the onset curve did nearly a month before|0 httpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsu0d1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQPn9TsLzsEymviYhtmlviewHad to dig up and I was off it didnt halve as much as its just kinda all over the place That being said its also difficult to use that data as the basis for the doubling time since the number of tests isnt nearly stable enough Looks like were all wrong in this thread|0 Here in Louisiana we have multiple labs doing tests It gets called a presumptive positive if someone tests positive and then they send it to the CDC for final confirmation But presumptive positives are 100 being treated as infected|1 Very true|1 Thats very interesting We didnt have any rashes|1 Are you even hearing what i say i quit watching all porn stop projecting your weird fetishes on people Youre the one who watches weird shit and you know it|0 But dont worry according to the governor of Florida theres no community spread in the state|1 It was early February for me I watched the Johns Hopkins map and gathered essential goods All set now and confident my household is good to stay in|1 No he is one of the worlds experts on scientific computing and one of the top computer scientists in America Won the J H Wilkinson Prize for Numerical Software He holds a BS in Physics and CS PhD in CS|1 Do let us know how many times you were tested before you are confirmed not to have it Tests are innacurate and there have been cases of positive patients taking 5 tests until a positive is found|1 Couldnt have happened to a nicer fellow|1 Which factor in your theory limits the number of infected people once the virus is basically ubiquitous|0 Have heard about this weeks ago Not surprised many are still going around saying you wont die from this Yes you might not if your immune system is good and provided your country health system isnt overloaded and you can get treatment but are you ready for the long term impact|1 I saw you got downvoted for this comment but youre rightI live in a UK university with a big chinese student population and a lot of them wear masks My chinese friend asked me why Im not wearing any masks and after explaining to her that it doesnt work and you actually end up touching your face moredont wear it properlyit can get through your eyesetc really didnt work as an argument|1 Theres more Quick close the border but open to the US oNLy and see the magic number unfold |1 RIP So many lives have been lost patients doctors policemen etc I just hope this will be over soon and everyone makes a speedy recovery 3|1 There has been a long running strategy to sabotage agencies by cutting funding instituting artificial barriers and decrease efficiency by top level appointments selected for their ability and willingness to undercut effectivenessThe inefficiencies can then be cited as reason for disbanding or further defunding the agency allowing more money to be diverted to things like profitable war projects and privatizationUnfortunately the CDC is actually an extremely important agency and kneecapping it is a really stupid idea Cuts there have potential to affect the corporateoligarch bottom line in ways they are just now only starting to realize|0 German healthcare system is one of the worst I encountered in my lifeAnd you have experienced so many different health care systems LMAO|1 Im assuming youre a young adult so I was going to say yes you are overdoing itThen I saw this Im asthmaticSo Id fumeagate your husband if I where you |1 utheassblaster isnt 100 accurate A stock buyback allows the company to gain more control and voting rights It signals that they believe the company is undervalued by the market It improves financial ratiosIn many instances it is more efficient to pay out with stock buybacks rather than payout with dividendsHes right in that it isnt a direct investment in employees|1 Sunday there 1 case and then 2 days later theres more than 11 cases here in NYim scared and not scared at the same time MTA is doing a great job cleaning their transportation daily but Im worried about the homeless more|0 Nice|1 Its the hot weather Look at all the hot counties They are barely affected|0 Youre being downvoted for seemingly making light of the situation but youre right Even if COVID kills 10 of the human population on Earth that leaves what 69 BILLION people Unless it specifically targets corrupt billionaires politicians and world leaders its really not going to slow world pollution at all|0 I had no idea he was still alive|1 There will be more deaths than tested cases by the end of the day tomorrow In the US the official mortality rate for this illness will be greater than 100 due to failure to report|0 Its Arbidol Umifenovir Abidol is a common translation error from Chinese|0 God people are stupid|0 You seem to care enough to make a comment i was just pointing out a fact|1 The coronavirus is turning out to be a blessing in disguise for us introverts No hugs no handshakes social distancing and now free manga All we need now is for scientists to discover that playing video games is an effective preventive measure|1 Well not highest gun deaths|1 Just been reading about this seems like its the same in Italy too I think our government needs postpone their plans and implement more social distancing measures so we have more time to study this So many unknowns at this moment in time|1 Please consider downloading BOINC or foldinghome to use your computers processor to help analyze COVID19 researchJoined More people really need to know about this|1 I have my computer and books but unfortunately i have very severe anxiety and have been having nightmares about this virus since early january and multiple people from my job got laid off today due to business dropping severely Im also reading that what they prescribed me tamiflu causes bad anxiety depressive episodes which is making me anxious to take it too |0 Looks like he was just out for a run and decided to help out with a potentially highly contagious patient|1 My reasoning is also if people are panic buying and selling out stores of hygiene essentials its better to jump on the panic train and nothing worse happens than to have the situation escalate and Im left with nothing because I sat on my high horse about it Im definitely more concerned due to living in a capital city but yeah Id expected a different response from him|1 They need to close the bridges ASAP or people are going to flee the city todaytomorrow That will decimate the surrounding states like NJ CT PATrue and many are commuters who work in the city but live in surrounding states The entire DCPHLNYCBOS corridor will be a death zone|0 This also poses the problem of parents having to stay home with their kids not going to work|0 The sarcasm is likely venting at the fact that people who have been saying how serious this is for a long time have been called doomers and fear mongers by people who were saying its just like the flu and other things that are just as stupid Out of context it looks like making fun of the people suffering but really its just him saying I told you so to the people making fun of doomers a week or two agoWeather any of that makes it any better is up to you to decide But its the context|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Thank you of course the Gates Foundation Honestly they are always giving to great causes I wish all the others would step it upThank you Bill and Melinda for being awesome|1 Not for everyone Im an animation student finishing my graduation film I cant work outside of school and for now no one knows if theyll push back our deadline given that the Annecy festival happens right after and we have to go present our films and find work Were toast|1 Yes trump is our president|1 Ya I think at this point the CT scans are pretty distinct and everybody probably diagnosing based on those now|1 I have a loved one in her late 40s who has asthma On a normal day she uses her rescue inhaler 23 times She also uses steroids on bad days She has no other symptoms right now and is otherwise healthy If COVID19 infection occurs and during the time hospitalization is unnecessary or an not option what are some common sense things that I should have for her For example I am thinking of buying a home oxygen therapy machine for her Also are there any anecdotes out there about people with asthma who contract COVID19 Thank you|1 There couldve been difficulty in notifying their next of kin about the death That takes precedent over notifying the media for obvious reasons|0 Europe America Latin America need to adopt mask wearing cultures Like youre not allowed on Public transit without a mask Ive been rocking a mask for a while now People give me looks Screw em|1 Also why its so important to have a good relationship between the public and government officialsI feel like Americans have gone so long without a real disaster theyve let themselves be convinced that the only reason we have a state is to hand out speeding tickets and waste tax moneyReally hope a side effect of this pandemic is a whole lot of people getting a shotgun lesson in the importance of civil society and collectivism That includes government officials as well whether that be police that have treated the public like an occupying army or political figures that have been elected on the promise of weakening government in favor of private enterprise|1 Same way that he said climate change is a hoax made in China I suppose|0 Note how I referred to potential infected as Invisible Infected here Because they can spread it without others knowing they can Im actually believe that this novel corona virus can spread without symptoms making it much more deadlyI agree with what you said there me and my family has just stocked up on frozen foods 75alcohol sanitizers and masks enough for a week|0 The Good Place comedy with Ted Danson and Kristen Bell among others Hilarious and thought provoking Watch it twice there arent but a few seasons Zoeys Extraordinary Playlist a new show with only a few episodes so far Looks promising|1 Careful what you wish for|1 Hold on this is misleading This shows the overall number of known cases and excludes recovered cases The overall number of active cases has only increased by ten thousand cases globally over the last ten daysAs someone with more than a decade of info graphic experience I can say that the Johns Hopkins map is intentionally designed to spread fear and hysteria just like this post1 Loads on the total number of cases in bright red upper left hand corner the first place people look No where does it include a number for the current total of active cases2 It does include recovered cases in the top right in a green color that almost merges with the gray background Its in a position and place to go largely unnoticed In addition like in my first point it does not subtract this number from the overall number of infected to show current cases world wide3 The Map itself shows all cases including recovered ones to see the active case map its hidden on a tab on the bottomI could go on but you get the point but hey Johns Hopkins takes a lot of Bloomberg money so by default they are influenced by pharmaceutical interests|1 Yay me too happily forgotten I might add|1 Thank you so much I really appreciate your support and help|1 Why do people keep saying theyre choosing not to test because theyve declared it endemic We still test for the flu and this graphic suggests nothing about testing|0 Nearly half of all adults in the United States have hypertension which is a risk factor for seriouscriticalfatal outcomes Thats before you count other risk factors like diabetes and cancerSo his whole normal Americans will only get a mild flu doesnt really hold up when most normal Americans have risk factors that can put them in the seriouscriticalfatal category|0 This is also a strong possibility You can always count on people to cut corners to try to make a quick buck|1 They need to get those who can work from home to work from home and lock down as it is in ChinaSouth Korea at the moment and they needed to do it 2 weeks ago We an only hope Monday brings some sense|1 what have YOU done please advise|1 Nope been following the pol coronavirus threads for a few days and the predicted confirmed casesdeaths versus the actual confirmed casesdeaths so far have not lied In fact theyve been worse than the prediction calculated|0 After the way we have pretty much disrespected every other country over the past 3 years I wouldnt be holding my breath for international assistanceThough maybe Mother Russia will pop in to help|1 I get a huge amount of PTO Walked in the door and had 10 holidays 3 weeks PTO plus the week between Christmas and New year off cuz no one does anything anywaysNone of that anemic two weeks and you might get three after five years Nope everyone gets like 5 weeks worth of PTO though ten of it is paid holidays |1 Will the virus be that bad|0 I genuinely tried and my dad made fun of me and said the flu is worse|0 TSA is why I refuse to fly if not for international travel I have an issue with random pat downs Dont fn touch me Especially some asshole making 12 an hour|0 Bc is testing for covid19 along with flu now and ontario has announced they are doing the same|0 They arent donating anything Italy still has to pay for them They just get priority buying|0 the Chinese ppl could force the govt to leak the vaccineIf the Chinese people could force their government there wouldnt be a CCP|0 In 19 days we should be at Italys current death rate but that doesnt include differences in mitigations that weve taken or any future mitigations either of us will take|0 As much as I was loathe to use it in my calculation it does strip out the issue of personallypurchased and employerprovided life insurance payouts which would inflate the value and helps to balance out the worth of those who have no life insurance at all|1 When something is Katie Hopkins approved you KNOW it aint it chief|1 I agree It would be useful to know what normal cleaning products can be used instead of say Clorox wipes if those are unavailable Is a surface cleaner enough Dishwashing soap Etc|1 Yeah thats stupid there is already so much free porn Why on earth would you pay for more|1 I own my own business and I want to let my staff stay home but its a small cafe I rent out the space Dont have the funds to keep renting if I dont have the space operating So Im really stressed anyone have any advice |0 Lol thanks for the laugh i needed that|1 Not conclusive but coughing up blood is not a common symptom From a quick Google only 1 of patientshttpswwwwebmdcomlungnews20200310knowthesymptomsofcovid19There are lot of things that can make you sick its not necessarily or likely given when it happened Covid19|0 It is what foreign bots are spreading and very ill informed people are amplifying it Washing your hands is not effective because people dont wash their hands properly Thus dont wash your hands The logic works the same|0 That was the joke yes|1 Just yesterday I heard someone say Its just a flu and that they heard it from a Doctor when its barely even started in the US|0 I do wonder how may many people carcd it today while having a stiff shit due to underlying heart conditions and old age|0 I shared this with the ladies in a public restroom once I walked out to hear their waiting husbands talking about us having a birthday party in the bathroom|1 These are the same SOBs who get their Governors attention real fast then wonder why their city got put on lock down Idiots|0 If were going to baselessly speculate then the entire thing could be a hoax or maybe wizards made it|0 Thats what people miss If people with a cough have to selfisolate for 7 days then there wont be any staff left to keep schools open Most are understaffed as it is and school staff ALWAYS get coughs If it starts spreading in schools then 90 of the staff will get it|0 it really does read like him|1 well actually he was given an award by the gov recently He is our national heroand his death just enrages millions of people Central gov doesnt censor everything negative onlinebecause sometimes a place to vent anger on helps them to stabilize the societyIn Chinamost people think Hubei gov should take the blame The population of Hubei is similar to that of italy it is highly possible that local gov keep central gov in the dark about corona virus Hubei still covered cases after the outbreak only counted people with severe symptom But after the governor of Hubei was recalledthe situation is getting better On Feb 13 the day new governor took office there was a spike in caseswhich means the new governor stoped covering it up Afterwards central gov convened doctors nationwide to help Hubeithat was the turning point of the epidemicIMO there is a disease of bureaucracy in the administrationsthat led to the censorship during the early phases of the disease The GOV mended the fold after the sheep have been stolen But nothing could bring doctor Li backSAD|0 when will the trump administration drop its bullshit wallbanPOTUS|0 My thoughts exactly here They seem way less hostile than Aum but still I cant help but to draw comparisons here Either way the S Korean government should conduct an investigation on this|0 Correct I have some following on the Internet and am planning on educating about this Maybe it will even save some lives in the long run I dont know why is it not being spread by media Sure it is not very clickable but if you title it How to protect yourself and others from the coronavirus I think that people will click and learn something|1 Listen every state is going to eventually have cases Some more than others Worrying about it is only going to weaken your immune system Truth be told unless youre 55 with medical conditions youll be fine You should be more worried about those in your life that fall into that category|0 I was saying the same yesterday too went to the gym and everything is fine but after reconsidering the situation I dont think its responsible of me to go to dangerous places like gyms at this point We ALL have to do our part to fight this fucking virus down once and for all|0 I guess someone has to take one for the team Might be better to get infected under controlled conditions than being quarantined at home I dont know if I had the guts or desperation needed to do that though|0 I feel the same way Preach on Lots of different feelings but lets all try to stay positive and help each other Ive been telling my friends and family for WEEKS that they should prepare for this exact situation and now they are actually surprised and scared Im frustrated too Remind the stubborn people to be extra smartcareful and look out for your friends and family Prevent the spread virtual noncontact fist bump|1 But someone told me my buddy who works for UPS and handles thousands of packages a day without any protection is super safe and its his fault if he gets sickIm starting to think that someone had a different agenda than my buddys health|1 This has got to stop STOP IT China|0 You are misunderstanding it The unions are protecting their members|0 It usually takes a very lengthy time for any type of new drug to get all the way thru the pipelineIdentify the drug develop the drug test drug in various animal models get approval for human drug testing phase 1 clinical testing in healthy individuals to determine safety phase 2 clinical testing in diseases individuals to determine efficacy phase 3 clinical large scale testing final approval For this COVID19 trial the drug company Inovio has already bypassed the first 2 steps since they already had a drug available for a different purpose And if phase 2 goes well they will get a fast tracked approval by FDA since we are in a bit of a public health emergency If phase 1 goes bad in healthy individuals yes they will essentially have to start over at step 1The entire process takes an incredible amount of money manpower and time at each and every step to be planned and executed and there are usually a few hiccups along the way manufacturing considerations and scale up availability of resources etc Its not really possible for ML or AI to actually conduct clinical testing on humans for safety and efficacy and thats the most important part in drug development The timeline for this potential vaccine is already very promising|1 The reason why the numbers are rising is because Singapore is ruthlessly testing everyone Ive spoke to a couple of Singaporeans here that work in the medical field and they said the citystate was ready for thisTheyre being proactive in their detection compared to a lot of other first world nations|1 Awesome thanks|1 Sorry to break it to you This number for new cases is completely inaccurate at this stage for mild or asymptomatic cases Highly doubt theyre testing many mild cases that are not presenting to hospital Their stretched healthcare system is prioritising saving lives over finding out the total number of cases right now|0 Im pretty sure that I had the virus in the first part of January Im a nonsmoker nondrinker and do not use recreational drugs I get flu shots every year and seldom get sickI had traveled to see family at Christmas and cut my trip short because I wasnt feeling my best I didnt know if I was coming down with anything but being around people was not a good idea While traveling through OHare Airport I kept my distance from everyoneUpon returning home I developed a dry cough this went on for five days I used over the counter meds for it and self isolated The dry cough seemed to be getting better when I suddenly developed a URI upper respiratory infection which came on fast Realizing that it was a severe infection I self isolated I warned my friends to stay away and avoided all outside contactIt was the worst URI that Ive experienced in decades Then bronchitis set in and this time my cough had a green sputum caused a rattle in my chest and in the bronchial tubes Copious amounts of sputum came from my head and chest Usually I can shrug off a cold or the flu in 10 days but there was no getting rid of this one I used antibiotics that I had but the meds helped only a little And as soon as I ran out of them the infection was right back The illness went on the better of January and it was only toward the end of the month that I began to feel betterIn looking back Im certain that I had pneumonia because I couldnt catch my breath Also I was aware of my breathing so I was using my CPAP even when awakeToday a chest Xray CT of the abdomen and lab results are negative But the aftereffects are Muscle soreness which is subsiding swelling in my lower limbs a feeling of tightness in my midabdomen sore kidneys something akin to acid reflux and the need for a fair amount of rest Not a person who naps Im finding that I need one mid afternoonMy energy level is back but I am physically changed from this experience This was not like an influenza Ive ever experienced in the past|0 We are the next Italy times 50 in many ways since there is no coordinated effort|0 Starting at 11 my aunt and uncle would take the cows to the rail line and trust me and my cousin with a gun a jeep and two ranch hands to cover a 40k acre ranch for a week We had to cook our own meals and for the ranch hands Thats child abuse these days|0 Exactly All mortality rate figures determined by reported cases are overstated as well|1 The problem here is that the Lancet letter is just a letter positing a hypothesis It is not a study The hypothesis is that because coronavirus uses ACE2 to infect cells drugs that increase ACE2 like ibuprofen might worsen the infectionThe problem with this is that studies of closely related coronaviruses have shown that lung injury in coronavirus infection is due to decreased ACE2 availability So not taking drugs that upregulate ACE2 expression like ibuprofen might actually worsen lung injury This is why randomized controlled trials rather than letters to the editor are necessarySee eg regarding lung injury and coronaviruseshttpswwwnaturecomarticlesnm1267|0 I use a CPAPResMed AirSense 10 Autoset Youre going to need oxygen and a mask that will allow you to hook up cannula to it I have the ResMed Mirage Quattro that has this feature Also CPAPBiPAP is going to be only if there is no ventilator available PAP machines work nothing like ventilators A ventilator has 2 phases inhale which like a PAP is pushing air into the lungs Then theres exhale which unlike a PAP machine is stopping the airflow to allow the lungs to naturally exhale CPAPs are constant pressure theres no off for exhalation This is the same for BiPAPs Inhale and exhale are still positive pressure its just that the exhale is a lower positive pressure Maybe in the early part of the worst of it PAP machines could be used as a stand in for a ventilator but if it gets worse youre going to need a ventilatorNow that I stop and think about it it should be relatively simple to hack a PAP into a ghetto ventilator Youd just need to replace the control system that came with the machine with something that can cycle the pressure system on and off as needed If you use something like a Pi and Linux you could possibly offload monitoring to a single desktop system allowing one person to monitor several people at once and make adjustments as needed remotely|0 In my opinion youre a hero Im going to do the same thing for the Walmart manager I spoke to yesterday after the cashier making fun of me buying 6 bottles of rubbing alcohol woohoo Woohoo Youre all scared of a little corona virus Only the weak and old will die Good riddance or something close to thatthe manager had never heard of the RO or the fatality rateshe asked me to bring something by and so I will|1 From the article The way coronavirus tests are being done is called a test of cure a patient gets tested repeatedly until they consistently show negative results This is also the way TB patients get tested before they can be released from isolation Wroblewski said This kind of testing is more difficult than say a more clearcut flu test especially when its being done for an emerging infectious disease whose behavior is still a bit of a mystery Normally when you test someone for flu its diagnostic if its negative its negative she said Youre not going to get these serial tests to get cleared When youre in containment phase and youre trying to isolate people who might be transmitting the virus youre using diagnostic tests very differently than you do under normal circumstances Its challenging|0 I know its not perfect but its generally better than socialized medicineYou dont know shit about socialized medicine Rich Americans travel to Europe for treatment all the time because its better and cheaper than in the USx200BKobe Bryant to have treatment on knee in Germany httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewsearlyleadwp20131004kobebryanttohavetreatmentonkneeingermanyhttpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewsearlyleadwp20131004kobebryanttohavetreatmentonkneeingermany|1 You forgot bailouts for the poor oil and gas industry eyeroll|0 Im just glad essential service workers are still willing to work through this I hope you guys get hazard pay|1 I never implied cremating bodies wasnt smart but them having to actually say that screams the number of deaths they gave is complete bullshit|0 surgical for sure n95 are scarce|1 It seems like were already winning against that strain The weaker one is the one likely to be endemic Focus on that|1 Captain Tripps is coming and nobody is taking it seriously This is probably going to affect the world on a much greater scale than the Spanish Flu Remember back in 1918 mass air travel didnt exist|0 What do we doOn the other side of the country in Seattle Dr Chu and her flu study colleagues unwilling to wait any longer decided to begin running samplesA technician in the laboratory of Dr Lea Starita who was testing samples soon got a hitIm like Oh my God Dr Starita said I just took off running to the office of the studys program managers We got one she told them What do we doMembers of the research group discussed the ethics of what to do nextWhat we were allowed to do was to keep it to ourselves Dr Chu said But what we felt like we needed to do was to tell public healthThey decided the right thing to do was to inform local health officialsThe case was a teenager in the same county where the first coronavirus case had surfaced who had a flu swab just a few days before but had no travel history and no link to any known caseThe state laboratory finally able to begin testing confirmed the result the next morning The teenager who had recovered from his illness was located and informed just after he entered his school building He was sent home and the school was later closed as a precautionLater that day the investigators and Seattle health officials gathered with representatives of the CDC and the FDA to discuss what happened The message from the federal government was blunt What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist to Helen Chu Dr Lindquist remembered Stop testing|0 This tells us all we need to know Incident Response Group meeting regularly to coordinate and prepare for a response to the health and economic impacts of the virusWe are two months into this crisis and our government is having meetings to discuss being prepared You are on your own make sure to get what you need to take care of your family|1 Holy shit never thought Id see the day where CNfuckingN is the one calling out fake news|0 So far weve heard that its not in the air that it can only be transmitted via touch or sneeze droplets but then were also hearing it can stay 3 hours in the air which makes a huge difference because in the former if youre in a room and no one sneezes and you wash your hands youre completely safe and in the latter youre fucked|0 Yea he said 80 was a worst case scenario if they do nothing I remember that figure floating around a couple of weeks ago I think but I cant remember if it was any official quoteJeremy Hunt is saying we could expect 20 thats bad enough|0 This happened to me as well I calmed down once everyone else started to take it seriously But now my anxiety is back from reading awful news stories coming out of epicenters Everything just feels so hopeless to me right now and Im so scared|0 500 pounds for a test Christ on skates someones gonna make a killing on that|0 you disagree with the post then|0 It totally depends on the scrubbing technology in the car at the power plants not to mention the entire supply chain the energy efficiency and so on Gas refined using very good technology and shipped to china might have polluted far less than a local coal plant in a developing economyAlso depends on how youre counting pollutants since there are many different forms of emissions and in different proportionsBut Id also want to include the materials and production processes for both types vehicles as well and so on|1 We cancelled a cruise in Europe for May only 4 days before we would have lost money on it Weve had it booked for over a year but I didnt want to risk it|0 First death in BChttpswwwcbccanewscanadabritishcolumbiacovid19coronavirusupdatebcmarch915483932|0 Somewhat ironic that she caught it|0 Norways economy is capitalist they also dont go around demonizing everything the right does like Maduro and Diosdado do The economy and politics in Vzla do not follow a rightwing model Chvez has made many attempts to do commie things like trying to share wealth by giving away money for free a lot of it in fact They call it bonuses right now Maduro does it with the famous carnet de la patria The CLAP boxes are state issued boxes of food that they deliver monthly to many people Sounds a lot like Cuba A model they very happily copied Just because theyre farleft it doesnt mean theyre gonna follow every past leftwing model to the letter They wish they had the tech and control China does over its own citizens or perhaps even a fraction of the power Stalin did There are degrees of how right or leftwing a gov can be and ideologically and politically Vzlas gov has nothing to do with the right You need to live here to better understand this shithole|1 Thats fucking disgusting even if Coronavirus wasnt a thing|0 Dont think they would welcome you with open arms since its still kind of mess in these countries|1 No more like a billion people under quarantine From the big cities to to the small villages People here view the quarantine as a sacrifice for the country and the world This might sound strange for people from individualistic societies it did to me Im from the UK but for societies like China and Korea it makes sense I was out in Shenzhen last night and the place is alive again streets are packed after being a ghost town for nearly 2 months|1 Here in NZ the government is denying visa applications from China A few Chinese companies I know now have just a handful of employees with the majority of them stuck in China Production is stopped until further notice|0 That would certainly make Trumps tweets a couple days ago make more sense Saying they had a long great conversation and Xi is very strong and determined paraphrasingCouldve been made to quash rumors unfounded or not of his deteriorating health|1 They would win absolutely nothing out of that Wtf is that idea Corona Wave work new wave Nah bruh|0 Hey This is just like the movie Contagion|0 R0 value isnt inherent to a diseaseIts specific to a disease and the environment in which the disease agent exists that doesnt mean it cant change|1 NY here Cuomo wants to stop gatherings of 500 people or more but State offices with thousands of employees in one place in little cubicles are still 100 open I have a family member who works at the State and despite him and his unit regularly telecommuting they will not allow them to telecommute now They were told that if they tried to take time off they would be reported to labor relations This is absolute insanity They couldnt make it more obvious that they dont care about the health of their employees|0 Better investment than stocks|1 This has surpassed SARS MERS and Ebola to an almost unfathomable degreeIn reach maybe but if Ebola hit this level would be 1000x worse Im taking COVID19 seriously but Ebola scares me more|0 Please excuse me I misunderstood Of course you do a great job Thank you very much for the long answer|1 Hong Kong is not the only part of southern China Greater China with evergreen trees common|1 Lol If all else fails at least you have a nice clean deck to come home to|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im in remission and have been off immunosuppressants for a long time but I remember those days very well Stay safe|1 HereshttpstwittercomScottGottliebMDstatus1224042220665307137 a pretty good Twitter thread by the former FDA commissioner explaining the red tape preventing sufficient Coronavirus testing in the US right now|1 Interesting point about school meals So sad that some kids dont have anything to eat at home|0 You obviously dont understand monetary policy and how important it was not to drop our rates any lower at this time We may be seriously fucked because of these interest rate drops when it comes time to pull out of the economic recession thats coming Its not a political thing Its an economic thing|0 Didnt they say this a month ago already WHO always was extremely alarming in their words Less so in their actions as weve seen|0 Beijing and Shantou have largely limited citizens from going into the cities Hong Kong government refuses to follow and ban Mainland Chinese from entering Hong Kong Moreover medical staff and equipment are woefully insufficient We should support the strike|0 But it is hard to stop the virus spreading when you have to decontaminate your hands the sinkbathshower then clean them all down everytime you go to the toilet Now imagine your ill This can only make it harder or impossible|0 im from singapore and ppl are in panic mode now sweeping everything off supermarket shelves|0 My mom had cancer surgery and treatment there Its always been special to me in a weird way so figured Id chime in with that bit of trivia as most dont realize it |0 lol|1 What are your mild symptoms I was in Alsace last week and booked it out of there as soon as RKI sent out the warning But both my SO and I feel 95 fine maybe the slightest scratch in our throats|0 The Commonwealth of Massachusetts Will pay you 2 a day if youre quarantined |0 Are people still really having weddings Should be postponed until this dies down|0 Governor Abbot of Texas has declared a state of emergency but is largely letting the counties decide what measures to takeAll of Texas is gonna be a hot bed as a patchwork of counties MAYBE shuts down and trickles over to others|0 Thats probably right I dont know the specifics of teacher employment contractswas just speaking to the language of the bill Obviously in your scenario then they wouldnt need either PTO or unemployment If they are fired or let go because of a closing then the unemployment portion would apply|0 Russian Babushka is no one to mess with|0 I sure hope thats the case|1 Luckily some smart bankers forecast Chinas GDP expansion to be only 53 for the first 3 months|1 I see a few here in NYC But the Asian community swept in and bought the whole city over a month ago bc they were hearing from family how bad things were in China Dont blame them blame the govt for doing nothing in the past 6 weeks to do something about it|0 I mean thats still a really bad number for amount infected|0 PSOE far left Lol|1 kids are grossYes thank youLol but seriously i agree 100 Stay safe and good luck for the test|1 Dude are you really talking shit about Florida as someone from NJ The florida is bad hahaha shit is so played out the rest of this shitty country has just as many douchebags|0 As a 45 year old making just over minimum wage part time I would agree This does not feel like that place|1 You have to be joking if you dont agree Ive been you dont have to say anything That is how horrible misinformation and irresponsible uninformed opinions gain traction You cannot shut down the country You are only delaying the inevitable until a vaccine is developed See Polio and Smallpox|0 Thats really the issue is that people dont understand that you can catch this virus and like Trump said go to work and still get better That does not mean you should because then you spread it to everyone and their grandma Which is when people die|1 Only ridiculous thing is stores besides pharmacies and grocery stores being open If were talking flattening the curve then why arent we doing that Im mad at my exemployer but im also smh at small and big businesses staying open when they dont need to Again ridiculous|0 Its because you dont usually touch your face with the outside of your elbowIf you do Im both impressed and a little disturbed|1 yeah I dont have much faith that he will actually institute this but she really did hold his feet to the fire he tried 3 times to argue and deflect and she would Not Let Him And then he capitulated I was shocked|0 This idiot thinks that just because someone makes a hyperbolic statement they are an uneducated moron who doesnt workGtfo and stuff your head back under Bezos desk|0 They just dont test enough people Its ridiculous that people who have almost all the symptoms are not being tested because they havent returned from one of the listed countries We are way past this point The virus is in the UK and its transferred from one person to another|0 I cant but this does apply to anyone who is in Canada who is on the Shaw network I have friends who work or school in the east who are on Shaw It affects them for sure as their data caps are now unlimited|1 They were just produced They had a bunch of tests fail a qc inspection so a few days were lost|0 Only one reactor exploded at chernobyl The other 3 are doing fine|1 The only cancer she is taking is something used for her thyroid since she had thyroid cancer and had to get it removed I dont know exactly the use or the name of the drug but she has to take it everyday|0 I think youd be surprised about how many people especially in smaller towns dont want to look crazy and care about social stigma Even if what they are doing is actually the sane and logical option in this scenario and refusing to acknowledge the need to prepare is the crazy optionAt least along the Gulf Coast here in the US people are used to prepping for hurricanes so theres less of a stigma|0 well they freaked out too late bad local government need to get arrested The CCP was on this case back in December and the local government ignored it|0 Makes no sense at this point these are everyone coming back from Europe|0 Little early to absolve the people that covered it up for 2 months and spread the worst plague in 30 years it hasnt run its course just yet|0 Its not going to hit 80 No infection does Stop living in fear This will be ok If you are under forty you will be fine|0 I do believe it is indeed illegal to mislabel PPE and sell it as what it is not Say someone lies and I go weld expecting it to protect me Say Galvanized Steel and get violently sick There is some a lot wiggle room for liability there Also I saw some dude wearing a pollen mesh mask with activated charcoal filters These dont help during a pandemic for a few reasons1 Not rated for aerosols and vapors Its meant for particulate and its not as good as even an N95 2 It has a VALVE so you will spread aerosols if you happen to be infecteddont know you are carrying the disease 3 I have seen the difference between a real filter and those masks The difference is hacking up a lung and 5 years of your life in a small booth learning SMAW|0 Seems like a gov setup to make look like they have less quarantined cause they just killed them|0 Brave man in so many ways While national officials might unfortunately get off scot free the fact that Global Times is publicizing this guy hopefully means they dont intend to silence him anymore|1 Meanwhile all my other social media feeds are filled with advertisements from Tokyo Yokohama Nagano Sapporo promoting large crowd oriented events If they want to contain this at the very least they can dissuade people from going out other than what is necessary I will give them credit for testing the 80 yo woman and disclosing the info because that easily could have been chalked up to seasonal flu at an old age and no one would have batted an eye no pun I also had to sit and watch an Is it safe to travel to Japan thread fill with comments like no cases here except evacuees and the cruise ship while wanting to vomit Trying to tell people there have been people flying in from China all month and Japan had very stringent testing criteria which is why they were very little reported cases gets you labeled as ready for a padded room|1 FDA regulations about RNA collection Every test kit has to be approved by the FDA even the CDC had to request a EUA letter from the FDA for states to use the previously flawed test kit|1 Oh well everything is the same here in Oklahoma too Got 2 confirmed cases in Tulsa Its here folks|1 The latest I heard from Fulton County schools was that they are taking direction from the CDC director no reason to close schools Overwhelming stupidity|0 3 More young italians living with their parents and infecting a group that is more vulnerable|0 Can I get a link Thats crazy and it shows the severity of this pandemic thats hes willing to unstick his lips from trumps ass|0 Lower population density and its been spreading in England for longer|0 Sad it doesnt have sound|0 If only there were a virus for greedy people|0 Yeah those are the correct figures 5560 is way too high|1 For letting the American People down by slow response and poor testing also by not being upfront from the beginning No early efforts to tell us what is coming for us I am thankful for this subreddit I agree with the title My opinion|1 Hah I was looking at them today Those suckers are pricey|0 How the Fu are they still out of TP And are they letting people buy large quantities WTF|0 Us younguns think were going to all be fine so a lot go out and party like its a vacation I have to keep reminding my roommate who IS taking this seriously and doesnt want to go out that were dangerous because we are carriers not because we will get sick|0 So torn between craic agus pints vs infection lolStock up on the cans lads|0 I totally agree Totally|1 I dont know if some of these people are paid by taco bell but I want some now|1 I agree but you also have to take into consideration the main outbreak is in a nursing home|1 We NEED testing holy fuck|0 Really bizarre to watch China behave as the leading superpower and help other countries during this crisis while the US literally couldnt do this even if it wanted The US cant even help its own HCWs After all this is over will China come out on top as the leading superpower|0 No not from the virus|0 lol kfranklyall animals humans We are fucking trashbut besides thatsocial distancing is a thingYou know that in Taiwan people can go out freely because they wear masks Maybe if Europe wasnt so maskaverse|1 So was the farm bill lol|1 I strongly suspect it varies by areaI live in Portland very centrally and any time Ive gone out in the last week which Ive limited Ive seen far fewer people out and about than Im accustomed to seeing The streets around my house are eerily silent except for birds My neighbors are taking it seriouslyI also work with the public though Im not going in right now and when I go to the suburbs I meet a lot of people who are selfinvolved uninformed and shallow they watch Fox or dont watch news I doubt they are being so careful From a standpoint of protecting life Im glad that normallycrowded areas are adopting better behavior I just wish everyone were|1 Has anyone with the coronavirus done an AMA I would be curious to hear their experience so far|1 I feel like the only new thing that I learned from this is that aolcom still exists|1 Youre swimming against the tide People here dont want to hear this its not a discussion Their minds are already made up Or more accurately were made up for them|0 And blaming US for not offering help|0 Anyone with kids in a public school is screwed They cannot legally withdraw them|0 Do we have some genuine reputable sources and their study data around Ibuprofen being a riskIm not saying it isnt it really could well be However its important to keep a clear mind around such things This is concerningly similar to the dont vaccinate attitude A few stories circulate without decent evidence and suddenly people stop following the current health adviceAgain Im not saying in this instance it is incorrectJust that we should make sure such information is treated with the same level of inspection and suspicion as we already automatically seem to treat the advice the government and NHS give us|1 there a couple of instances but the trend is holding true in both china and south Korea|1 Source please In a genuinely curious oh god Im scared tone|1 Im so sorry youre scared I am scared too The more I think about it is key here I find that my anxiety goes through the roof and creates physical symptoms where there arent any as a way of trying to be heard Acknowledge your anxiety like youre doing now and be gentle with it it is trying to protect you You cant not think about this situation that is impossible However you can think about the other symptoms you arent feeling or the other ways you do feel fine to hopefully help ease the hyperfocus on breathing Stay aware of your breath but trust yourself to know if your symptoms change|1 Thats what Wuhan was thinking as well|1 Because they were mainly in Italy were elderly mostly in their 80s had underlying health conditions not just diabetes though uncontrolled diabetes can be fatal A lot of people have this as there are often no symptoms and many of them were already in hospital My dad was a doctor and it was common practice in the 70s that those that died in hospital at that age were just treated as it being their time|0 The president can make things better but its not like the people of the USA arent doing anything Schools in my major city are all closed effective today Large gatherings over 250 people discouraged or permits revoked My office is all WFH Were effectively in self quarantine without the mandate of the president|1 So how do they access all that funding etc if they can no longer declare a pandemic|0 Having sick little ones in the worst You can check with your pedi but when fever is bad they have us alternate between Tylenol and Advil every 3 hours Allows them to get medicine much sooner to help keep the fever down|0 Health providers wear hazmat suits and use everything youve mentioned and still get ill I love animals but should a few dogs be responsible for thousands of humans dying Now if it were a select few D JK|1 The mask is more for protecting others Good luck|1 I get where you are coming from but for fuck sakes it isnt a LITERAL ANALOGY|0 Denial versus panicThe problem isnt panic The problem is denial Denial is why panic is rare We are equipped with a circuit breaker and when were about to panic we go into denial instead Denial is not useful in that people in denial dont take precautions but its preferable to panic People who are panicking do themselves harm Those who are in denial dont accomplish much but at least they dont make things any worse Denial is natures way of protecting us from the horrible effects of panic and whereas panic is rare denial is extremely commonHow do People React in a PandemichttpsniemanharvardeduwpcontentuploadspodassetsmicrositesNiemanGuideToCoveringPandemicFluCrisisCommunicationHowDoPeopleReactInAPandemicaspxhtml|0 Bruh it takes like 23 years of delinquent payments for them to actually shut off your waterEdit Same goes for the power companies in MI they wont give you years of leeway but they have to give you a lot of time and cant shut off the heat on you in winter MI has some dope laws and rights|1 Its at least 10 times worse When the dust settles my bet is 30 times 01 vs 3 The longer term graphs are converging above 3|0 Iran is noooo way more honest then any other country|1 Good luck selling most Americans on that|1 but blaming Chinese government is ok and not political Guess thats how free speech works here|1 Yep You are right httpswwwnytimescom20200312uscoronavirustestingchallengeshtmlsmidfbnytimessmtypcurfbclidIwAR3dYSLUAauJO263Uj4DDP69es75N02o7a7F9nRiAz5XprIvXTFZTAe0Uhttpswwwnytimescom20200312uscoronavirustestingchallengeshtmlsmidfbnytimessmtypcurfbclidIwAR3dYSLUAauJO263Uj4DDP69es75N02o7a7F9nRiAz5XprIvXTFZTAe0U|1 I work for a FedEx opco we definitely handle at least some of the FirstClass Mail Priority Mail and Priority Express Mail domestically We also carry some stuff into the US for DHL when they still operate in the US|1 Li Wenliang contracted the virus Jan 8th developed fever Jan 10th died Feb 8th Thats almost a month of time not a weekIn his Weibo post he describes how on 10 January he started coughing the next day he had a fever and two days later he was in hospital He was diagnosed with the coronavirus on 30 January|0 LMAO Im testing because I want to not because you think I should|1 Yeah Ive been subconsciously planning in my head didnt really speak to other half about it as he was a bit in deniala bit didnt want to face reality Reality hit him Sunday when I asked him to pop to the supermarket and grab some bananas He came home in a panic and I just came out with my preparation plan from nowhere|0 for essential travel like buying food not for going to a cafe to gossip with their friends|1 Lol sure Well give you an hour|1 That good news I guess|1 How is the pay Is it full time|0 Beautiful thousand of more cases just like our president s|1 Wtf is up No travel restrictions were implemented for weeks Schools are still open We are being urged not to wear masks Only 11000 ppl tested thus far out of 3310000000 Almost as if they want everyone to get Coronavirus|0 I wouldnt say were the pinnacle of civilization at all Singapore lol but it was crazy seeing the entire western world on reddit twitter etc making fun of the situation being racists spreading fake news etc being kinda indifferent and not bothering to prepare for like 10 whole weeks Thats seriously crazy The amount of China bashing with fake news straight up racism and twisted narratives was ridiculous too It wasnt even proper constructive criticism like 90 of the time It was just malicious I mean if you wanna bash them sure go ahead but make preparations as well That didnt happen at all We actually criticized a lot of our own bad behavior during the peak of the crisis and some of us were feeling ashamed of ourselves and questioning why cant we be civilized like the rest of the developed world After seeing the behavior of the people of the rest of the developed world these couple of days I say were not really that bad after all lmao|0 Yeah I would guess that special units should be designated for covid so that essentially one nurse can take care of 23 patients with the same protective gear And furthermore 1 RT to take care of these vents|1 httpsmsfgatecommusicarticlecoachellacanceledcoronavirus202015121216phpCoachella was cancelled since your post Out of curiosity have you ever heard of a leadership strategy called pacing and leading|0 Thanks|1 I was really hoping this is what we would hear at the meeting today but nope In fact if I remember right they said they had absolutely no plans in doing any type of a shutdown|0 Ive never given a test where some students dont ask for a postponement using any excuse I know a student whose mother died twice Ive posted the below and as I mention if there are any facts I have wrong than the professor is most certainly not worthy of the benefit of doubt If he thought he could diagnose himself better because of his subject than sure but then why get tested before he requires hospitalization Im not saying its impossible the professor is in the wrong Im simply offering the other side of what it means to administer a university test Judging by your personal attacks on the man and curt response I somehow doubt youll read it all but even if he is at fault knowing what university professors face if they just call in sick and cancel an exam day of without administration saying its ok can cause and remembering that professors work decades to get tenure or tenure track positions and stupid shit like a student suing for unfair academic environments can ruin all of that as well as the fact that professors often have families to feed just like anyone else with a job Im not saying he didnt make a mistake and Im not saying it isnt a big deal Im saying hes human and has never had this disease before and that we have no idea whether he contacted people to see if they could give the exam in his stead or whether the contacted the administration and they told him that they still expected classes to continue Im just adding the viewpoint of another college lecture instructor and mentioning how difficult it is to reschedule an exam with short notice even if many students want to move it depending on the institution a syllabus can act as legal leverage and moving an exam especially in a larger class can literally have legal repercussions and put the school and therefore instructor in a load of shit far beyond what most students comprehend goes into scheduling an examIf yours is a small class and the administration had already placed a separate methodology for administering tests remotely with little to no heads up or granted amnesty to professors who dont fulfill their teaching responsibilities than it completely changes things as well You and many friends may very well have been ok with a later exam but if a single student had sportworkor any other commitment they had altered or planned around to take the test on that day and the teacher was not afforded a chance to speak with them then they cant postpone the test without fear of repercussions from that student again this depends on the institution I once asked if I could change an exam date because it would be highly beneficial to all students and to me and I was told that I absolutely could not unless there was confirmation that EVERY enrolled student wanted the change a single nay and policy dictates the syllabus is the final sayThings should be different in a pandemic hot zone Things should be different when professors get sick even outside pandemics but like any job where the level of specialization means there is no replacement the option of not coming in as a spur of the moment decision is nonexistent unless youre already in the hospital Your professor clearly should have gone to the hospital and Im really sorry this happened and I dont know every detail so please understand all Im doing is explaining what I think is not understood by most university students about being a professor or instructor including a career long ingrained message that you do not reschedule tests last minute and there is no one to replace you under most circumstances unless you have a week or more ahead of time to plan This shouldnt be the case anyone sick should be able to take a day off work but special circumstances with a pandemic for instance should have been addressed by the administration long before this happened Im sorry to you Im sorry to everyone in your class and Im sorry to your professor who probably did what he thought was right under the circumstances If Im missing any details like the professor had had a fever for days or there was an administrative plan in place than know that I do think the professor is at fault He should know to obey quarantine procedures but to me it sounds like he did he just didnt realize he was potentially sick with Covid 19 until after he printed planned and showed up to class with the tests If Im wrong about that than he loses any of the benefit of the doubt|0 Dont forget Singapore and South Korea|1 I just got back doing an internship at the lab at UW that uses the data from this game We also make novel proteins from scratch using computer predictions to target new stuff Very cool and exiting stuffHowever its good to realize that even if this program outputs something promising theres still plenty of work that has to be done We are not at the stage yet where a protein design that works on the computer also instantly works in real life The proteins might not be soluble or hard to express or they might find a different energetically favorable fold you didnt account for But again there are definitely examples where functional proteins have been developed Would be amazing if we could get to the stage where you let the computer predict a structure and it automatically being a working protein|1 In Singapore you had to do a two week self quarantine if you had been in China in the past 2 weeks not sure if its extended to SKorea eg now and you could only enter the country if you were a resident I think if not they turned you away And maybe its because of the culture here but most people abided by it Its a little different from the Italian I think quarantine because anyone else in the same household was also put on a leave of absence and couldnt go to workschool You can go out to get groceries and stuff I think|0 Damn this sub has really just become a shit on America thread Not much substance left You hate to see it|0 Do you think this has anything to do with all of the far right saying the media is hysterically playing up the virus in order to cause the markets to crash in order to keep Trump from being reelected So they see this and thinkright Keep those pesky news people from spreading LIESIf you dont think this is done to silence and buy time you are naieve too The only ones who dont know what is really going on are the ones who believe anything they are told anyway so the ONLY thing you are achieving is causing more panic by doing thisWe are intelligent and can hear news bits and research and make up our own minds on what is true and worthy of fear and what isnt I do not need my government telling me what I SHOULD hear during a time of potential global health eventPoor decision without justification IMHO Just another in a long line |0 This is stupid but will get upvotes because its antiTrump The election is 9 months away the virus will be here before then if its going to spread|0 Look at whats happening in Washington state and Rhode Island Its bad|0 Yes Advil and Motrin are both ibuprofen|1 Stop up voting this BS Hes all around in this thread giving out poor info|0 Thank you for this|1 I am from France and Id like to highlight something not all of the sick are being tested My mum who is 63 and I who is 23 are ill but we are not being tested because the test is only done when severe respiratory difficulties are developed My mum has been sick for 5 days with pneumonia but she seems to be better now and I hope she will We both have fever pain in the throat runny nose headache coughing Doctor says it might not be coronavirus Might not The data cant be accurate because our health system is overwhelmed It was already before the coronavirus crise Italy is facing the same situation|0 I will be messaging you in 2 days on 20200308 060215 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 i wiped down the boxes lol and had it delivered|1 He wont do anything to disrupt the markets especially once they have seemed to steady off today It will be a reassuring message that they hav plenty of people taking care of it and one that focuses on the importance of secure borders|1 blessing in disguise I used to work for them I quit after they started making me ask everyone to purchase magazine subscriptions after buying a toy|1 Yes but the bad people are in charge of everything Thats fairly obvious|0 yellow feverYellow fever is when you like Chinese I feel like you have no idea what youre talking about|1 Seat belts use reduces fatality by 45 and serious injury by 50 Truth be told most of the time when you enter a bad accident youre still fucked but it is still worth wearing a seatbeltGood hand washing reduced chance of getting it by 54 It is capable of being airborne but slightly more likely to be from your handsIt sucks its not fair its not right society can do a bajillion times better but at this moment its the best we can or at least willing to do|1 Smoking seems to be a big risk factor in getting severe Covid19 The added risk is thought to arise from the apparent upregulation of ACE 2 receptors deep in the lungs of smokers The virus uses these receptors to lock on to the cells and enter them|0 This is a clusterfuck and I pin this squarely on the leaders of the developed countries who tried to play down the risk in order to calm the market The market panic now came with a vengeance in spite of their best effort to collectively bury their heads in the sand We are now witnessing a historical event unfolding on the magnitude of 911 or Soviet falling|0 Eventually yes but I think America will get hit hard not because of the lack of testing or preparedness by the government I think the US may get quickly overwhelmed due to how unhealthy America is in general The US ranks 1 in obesity among OECD countries 362 of the US adult population is obese The US is 5th in global cancer rates per wcrforg America as a whole is unhealthy now add a global pandemic to that The Bloomberg Index had Spain being the healthiest countries in the world in 2019 with a health grade of 9275 and a health score of 9656 Italy has a health grade of 9159 and a health score of 9583 The US has a health grade of of 7303 and a health score of 7813 Look at what is happening all over Spain and Italy right now And they are considered the healthiestWhat is going to happen in the US if outbreaks start happening like Italy and Spain will be catastrophic You would have at least 1 WuhanItaly in each State This will all likely happen in April|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Bases in my area have limited it to 2 hours so about 150 miles max now|0 KFC in Seoul is fucking god tier|1 Fortunately the state just closed all bars and clubs It should help a little My city also is closing stores and restaurants from 9 pm to 6 am|1 The children are the ones killing us|0 This is very true|1 I have ten pounds of bacon Im good for 3 days I think|1 lol the fearmongers of Reddit strike again|1 Cults dont typically have an aim to last beyond the lifespan of the leader so they go hard on the crazy Religions play a much longer game and as a result are typically more slow to act and calm in beliefs|1 As someone getting extremely paranoid from the coronavirus I just wanted to comment and say this was a reassuring comment thank you|1 Hello Dodgeit Please educate me here I received a laptop as a gift last week with Intel i78565u CPU My internet speed is just 3Mbs Are those parameters qualify for donation Your answer shall be highly appreciated|1 Its hot in the phillipines and today jumped from 60 to 94 cases Dont get your hopes up for warm weather preventing it|0 Hey Bill on behalf of the moderator team thanks so much for doing this and as a scientist who used one of your grants for TB research thank you again Do you think the vaccine development will mirror the ebola outbreak where theres some limited positive data and the vaccine is safe so they produce the vaccine for at least Healthcare workers on the front line That happened relatively quickly for the ebola vaccine in relation to vaccine development Would love to hear your thoughts on this And thanks again|1 Meanwhile theres still a current Ebola outbreak thats been going on for months in the Congo nobody is talking about x200B As of 21 January a total of 3416 EVD cases were reported including 3297 confirmed and 119 probable cases of which 2238 cases died overall case fatality ratio 66 Table 1 Of the total confirmed and probable cases 56 n1912 were female 28 n963 were children aged less than 18 years and 5 n172 of all reported cases were healthcare workers This is from a month ago but as far as I know its still ongoingx200B httpswwwwhointcsrdon23january2020eboladrcenhttpswwwwhointcsrdon23january2020eboladrcen|0 Take care and stay safe |1 Always scroll through the comments for the useful advice ALWAYS|1 It is really these kind of anecdotes as well as some of my personal experiences which really make me doubt humans capacity for unbiased logical thinking There seem to be so many people who will hold onto irrational beliefs beyond any reason It is precisely this quality which will be the end of us|0 Just look how fast TO went from 35 then suddenly 20 as of this afternoonRead how the numbers went in Italy its super exponential once it gets a foothold|1 Next time let the urgent care know you are coming in and let them know your symptoms You could of gotten the front desk lady sick if you really had the virus She would of been prepared|1 After my experience from years of living in Japan if theres one thing thats guaranteed to cause future political upheaval in Japan its going to be mass Japanese deaths due to greed for Chinese money|0 Im curious what fish antibiotics are there and how do you use them Can I buy them off of Amazon Thanks|1 We just had one in Milwaukee Im very nervous about that|0 You WAY over paid for your delivery The average cost of delivery is 1000012000 before insurance That is average so half pay less None of my kids were over 10000 and insurance took care of most of it|1 The entire purpose of this speech was to sow discord anxiety fear and to stoke the fire of his base There are very legitimate criticisms to be made of the federal response to this situation but an informed person listening to this speech would come away feeling were doomed This is dangerous|0 Have you been paying attention to anything thats been going on the past few weeksNYC isnt the most important place in the world you get that right Italy has literally quarantined itself numerous international brands have shut all their stores globallyBut shit NYC has to keep going guys screw everyone getting sick and hundreds and thousands dying |0 Well thats been OBVIOUSLY proven by the lack of action on many countries parts because they dont want to crash the economy or dont want to lose tourism money Money human lives|1 Yes in a bus not an open area|1 Im sure the US and Guatemala will have a sit down and come to an equal sound and fair resolution promptYeah this wont be good|1 WHO DirectorGeneral reminds everyone that he really really doesnt want to pay out on those pandemic bonds|0 See who do we have to listen to get things done No one but ourselves When will their walls fall The figureheads are worrying|0 they do all the masksNot all of them For example there is a factory in France that makes masks and they complained that in january alone they got orders for twice as much as they did in entire 2019 They cant keep up but there are factories outside chinajust like we dont import 98 of our electricity or 98 of our gasThere are many countries that do|1 Declaring boundless faith in General Secretary Xi|1 Thats interesting all the new things we learn because of coronavirus|1 Its definitely high interest I talked with my wife and were going to put 2000 into savings and throw the rest at this loan Luckily my job has plenty of overtime so Im just gonna bust my ass for a few months and pay it off|1 I got really sick right before Thanksgiving The entire virus moved into my lungs and I had trouble breathing and a bad cough for a month and a half I didnt really start to feel better until the middle of January Tested negative for the flu as well There are over 200 cold viruses though|0 We love being home and are hermits when not at work Ill only worry if the power goes out|1 Nice I am watching Narcos with my wife right now PM me if you ever want to play a game of chess or exchange good netflix shows 3|1 You are sadly uninformed Warren Buffet has stated repeatedly that he and others in his tax bracket pay less tax than his receptionist Its rather staggering that you wouldnt know this|0 The healthiest Strong beautiful Yuge lung capacity|1 They did but it was under different circumstances The test results for a player out sick came back positive 15 minutes before the game started|1 Elementary school kids cant be home alone they will end up in daycare or parents not workingPlus daycares are very germy No matter how much they clean young kids transmit germs easy|1 These damn cruise ships are going to fuck us all|0 Theyre adding new mods as we speak Im one we are trying to keep on top of stuff just give us time|1 And Australia and the USdidnt really work out well for them|1 This NIH sitehttpsghrnlmnihgovconditionkawasakidiseasegenes talks about a proposed mechanism for Kawasaki that sounds very similar to what the coronavirus article discussesA variation in the ITPKC gene has been associated with an increased risk of Kawasaki disease The ITPKC gene provides instructions for making an enzyme called inositol 145trisphosphate 3kinase C This enzyme helps limit the activity of immune system cells called T cells T cells identify foreign substances and defend the body against infection Reducing the activity of T cells when appropriate prevents the overproduction of immune proteins called cytokines that lead to inflammation and which in excess cause tissue damage Researchers suggest that the ITPKC gene variation may interfere with the bodys ability to reduce T cell activity leading to inflammation that damages blood vessels and results in the signs and symptoms of Kawasaki diseaseOr am I misunderstanding Thanks for your insights|1 I agree Jail sounds right Tried by a jury of their peers who will by that point have each lost a loved one to the coronavirus thanks to the CDC|1 Imagine explaining how you got the coronavirus by touching yourself lol|1 While the virus is rapidly progressing Manitobans should know that the vast majority of people who contract the virus will experience mild to moderate symptoms and will recoverSounds like he already knows he has let the problem progress significantly on his watch|1 To be honest I would have been more cautious if not for the messaging coming out of the administration and conservative media I thought theres no way theyd be this irresponsible and I dont even trust them to begin with Nowadays it feels like you have to average out the outrage from the various biased media sources|0 I feel like its a badly phrased question Maybe a better question would beHave you proactively taken extra precautions eg bought in supplies washed hands more frequently avoided public get togethers in order to mitigate the chances of contracting Coronavirus 1Yes a lot of precautions 2Yes a few precautions3dont know4No but Im going to 5No and I dont intend to|1 The US State department is progressive and that is a faction inside the liberal faction To be clear I do not mean the party called the Democrats this is a broader church httpsenwikipediaorgwikiLiberalism|1 Yeah I suppose I understand that I just hope they do their part to keep themselves isolated|1 Thats possible I just heard about the 2 strain theory|0 Defer your loans now|0 I suppose I couldve worded it better but my point still stands |1 I have seen conflicting reports as to symptoms Couch fever shortness of breath are consistent But I am getting mixed messages on headache sore throat stomach issues And if I have one of these other symptoms does it disqualify Covid19|0 No its a sensible and inevitable measure So spending millions on bonds to bail out the stock market makes sense and saying fuck you who cares to the millions of service and restaurant workers who will soon be practically unemployed also makes sense to you|0 You raise interesting questions Lets hope we never have to find out the answers|1 The withholding of this information is dangerous Im not waiting I got my parents locked down and safe my brothers pulled their kids out of school early everyones got food and ammo and I got as many people informed as possible When this is over I think its time for every politician to get replaced|0 Hopeful it is not mutating into a more deadly and virulent version|0 So the teacher is sick did they wear a mask while teaching at the school|0 Meanwhile outside the US in the civilised world tests are free for everybody|1 While more people died in Italy today actually the acceleration of cases is showing down in Italy This means that social isolation is working and Im honestly sure even the UK will follow the examples from other countries|0 Doesnt that make it less scary People have probably been getting it and recovering without realizing|0 The Government has rolled out many measures to control disease transmission Only time will tell if these measures are enough or even more needs to be doneLike others mentioned there is very detailed contact tracing covering every single person you met for 14 days This is very extensive and quarantined cases are monitored by the government through visits by army personnel video call at random times to Ensure quarantine isnt brokenThe 900 PHPC emergency clinics have been activated and medical supplies like PPE and antivirals are being rolled out from the national stockpile Medical fees are subsidised to a flat rate of 10 including treatmentGroup events above 250 people have been banned public locations like gyms have waitlists to get in Registering on the wait list also creates more data for contact tracingTransparency about the situation helps the public make informed decisions Covid19 cases are publicly listed with locations of where they stay their workplace and where they visited People know to monitor themselves if they have physical proximity to known cases|1 We are too busy worrying about the clumsy superpower to worry about the powerless k s|0 Rule 6 Avoid Unsourced Speculation|0 Let me say it louder for the people in the back THE CURRENT SEASONAL FLU IS SIMILAR IF NOT MORE CONTAGIOUS AND LETHAL THEN THIS CORONAVIRUS STRAIN ACCORDING TO SCIENCE DONT BELIEVE ME THEN SEARCH IT UPIf you are generally healthy you will be fine If you have survived rough flus even remotely recently in the past you will more than likely be fine If youre too old or too young or for some reason you have a weak immune system you are susceptible to death the same way you would be if you had the seasonal flu People are hysterical yes its bad but its not a pandemic People are only getting hysterical now because no one has presented them with the numbers of people who die from the average flu|0 Or you can chance your survival and just take your pick after the world ends but before all the fuel goes bad|0 I have read that Vit C and Zinc are supportive|1 The thing which many people ignore is that if you get the covid then its going to damage your lungs irreversibly Even if you survive your lungs will not be at a 100 percent until you die So you can say goodbye to excercise or hiking hell even walking faster or running That is now when you are young Imagine going to your old age with already damaged lungsCommon cold is reversible The damage from this virus isnt|0 Communist in name only China hasnt followed Marxist teachings in a very long time At best they are rightwing ethnocapitalist at this point|1 What is this Tracking the sick|0 Realistically how long do you think countries can ban nonessential travel|0 50 and above CFR is even higher than 3Everyone is going to be affected by this either directly or indirectly by losing an elderly loved oneTheres a few elderly relatives I have that I recognize I might never see again Tables missing 3 legs just waiting for a breeze to blow over This will do unfortunately|0 I personally have continued to suport my local wuhan plague resturants can anyone help me diagnose this cold I seem to have picked up|1 I really want to know what that interest rate will be|1 Too late to do the right thing now is how the country song goesWere fucked We gave them all our manufacturing Including drugs|0 Jesus What is the fucking point of the trilllions in taxes theyve stolen from us over these recent yearsHeads need to fucking roll|0 Lol Ive never bothered to look up or find out what plants versus zombies is so tell me haha|1 Breathing air pollution really seriously overworking themselves etc There might be fewer overweight Chinese people but that doesnt mean there arent other things compromising peoples immune systems|1 Noah began building the ark when the skies were clear|1 Well despite being deadly Ebola is not particularly contagious Measles is far FAR more contagious than Coronavirus Ebola is far far more dangerous than Coronavirus but not more contagious|1 Fuck where in Florida|0 Can someone tell Chad Becky Cameron and Liza that they should stay home Even if it ruins their spring break and Instastories Please|0 Some of initial towns in lockdown have already been reporting 0 new cases So yes the measures are working|1 Deaths will appear way high for their tested ratio They want to stop panic and the stocks dropping but in the end they will cause more of it|0 Thanks for the photo and the context|1 Ive never been so disappointed to be so right before|0 Im 35 so Im not newborn either It was a tongueincheek comment You do start caring less about stuff in some ways as you get older though Hopefully not personal safety|1 Thank you The more people that hear and understand this message the better we as a society will get through this If you have a communication channel outside of Reddit please get this message out|1 Well I work at a fucking grocery store so how am I supposed to do that|1 I think how the Chinese government treats his death will tell us some general direction in the governments response to the responsibility of the entire event If he was hailed a hero then chances are there will be a reckoning the greater his heroic status the larger the reckoning If this is brushed under the table then chances are the government doesnt play to make any fundamental or systematic change I really hope its the former|1 Ah My nephew had seizures with the flu fever a couple of times and his doctor said it wasnt unusual for young children with high fevers|0 I read this article first thing this morning and had the same question My other thought was huh that was pretty fast for an article like this to come out in the US in a publication like this|1 What does this mean for a company like Airbustheir stock will crash|0 not how that percentage works but ok|1 Please do not postcomment links to your discord server You can check out our official discord server in the menu tabI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19support if you have any questions or concerns|0 So racist like the Spanish flu|0 ResultsThere were 181 confirmed cases with identifiable exposure and symptom onset windows to estimate the incubation period of COVID19 The median incubation period was estimated to be 51 days 95 CI 45 to 58 days and 975 of those who develop symptoms will do so within 115 days CI 82 to 156 days of infection These estimates imply that under conservative assumptions 101 out of every 10000 cases 99th percentile 482 will develop symptoms after 14 days of active monitoring or quarantine|1 I am young and healthy I have zero interest in catching it early to help others later Call me selfish but I dont want pneumonia for weeks and risk dying or risking permanent injury|0 Its not double standard Its actually consistent We think its bad We want strong measures to be taken Strong measures are taken we get confirmation of our thinking Its the wer were right and we wish we havent been situation|1 In order for a virus to multiply it has to get inside one of your cells Your cells are surrounded by a membrane that normally keeps unwanted things out Coronaviruses are also surrounded by a membrane Somehow coronaviruses are able to connect their membranes with the membranes of our cells and dump the stuff it needs inside our cell to replicateThis paper looks at a bunch of possible ways that the protein LY6E might inhibit the virus and concludes that its somehow blocking membrane fusion However the paper doesnt propose any specific therapy It does suggest future work should be done to determine how LY6E stops the fusion and maybe that will be useful for devising a treatment|0 I agree Anything is better than nothing and the whole fit test argument is bs Americans are loud and proud coughing maniacs Wear a mask|1 How does a blood sample test confirm it Surely the virus stays inside the respiratory tract and doesnt enter the bloodstream|1 I wouldnt expect anything less from a country full of climate change deniers|0 The flu season is mostly over but you can catch it any time of the year so theres still some benefit If you can find a pharmacy or GP that offers it Id reccommend it Ive had it every year since 2003 and Ive never had flu Means you dont have to worry about getting seriously ill each winter Usually anyway|0 That would be flu It isnt here yet Quit trying to panic people Get vaccinated for flu|0 For comparison while this doesnt show an age distribution specifically for the infected areas or weighted towards those heres an age distribution for Chinas population as a whole as of 2020httpswwwpopulationpyramidnetchina2020|0 Dumb question isnt it kind of a good thing This should lower the mortality rate right|0 Is that because of CORONAVIRUS or because of Americans I bet their wall will be way prettier than ours Maybe a Giant Ice Wall|1 Not an argument|1 Socialism for the rich Rugged individualism for the rest of us|1 I dont disagree always But people like toilet paper man|1 Please do not spam If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Is there a full table of all the Diamond Princess passengers including those flown home and their disease progression I feel like thats our best hope of knowing the answer right now|1 So many people still believe that coronavirus will not affect them if they arent old We need to drill it in peoples minds that they need to take every precaution to avoid catching and spreading this virus Comparisons to the flu are diversionary and unhelpful and its just getting old at this point|0 China is not a bashful child Theyre a superpower that actively suppressed news of the disease The poor American response does not absolve them of the fact that they failed to allow the rest of the world to prepare appropriately|0 I agree with him in this at least But then there are problems still Who is making such decisions|0 I had a person I work with try to argue that its no worse than the flu and threw out the statistic as he was looking it up that 35 million people in the US were infected with the flu in 2018 with 34000 deaths and said the coronavirus has only killed a tenth of that worldwideI told him firstly the Coronavirus has only been around a few months second of all the death rate of the flu is 1 vs around 34 for the coronavirus So about 40x more deadly Were in the early stages and the coronavirus seems to be about as infectious if not a little more than the flu So if the same number of people get the coronavirus that got the flu in 2018 were looking at around 13 million deaths just in the USEdit 34 based on the World Health Originization estimate This is simply the number of people tested to number of deadthis isnt to be taken as an estimate of future mortality rates since mild cases are much less likely to be tested than severe cases resulting in a high percentage The percentage is probably lower|0 Sorry but what a shit country when working citizens cant afford to go to the fucking doctor|0 fully healthy second picture is of someone that is clearly obese lol|1 Restock any Rx There are other forums discussing our reliance on China made antibiotics and mental health drugs Gonna be fun when folks run out of their meds|1 Firstly US GDP per capita is higher than all other countries with a comparable population Sure Switzerland had a higher GDP and lower unemployment they are also the pop size of a single US city and have less area than many US states It isnt fair to compare a small european country with enormous social cohesion to a country massively more diverse and many times largerSecondly I chose Italy and Greece because your statement was that every first world country has sick leave by government mandate as if it were a requirement of first world status I pointed out two first world countries which have sick leave but arent having a successful economy to show that it may just be a european trend stemming from expanded social programs and not a bellwether for economic successFinally my point of saying it is not our goal to be as good as Europe is to say the United States and Europe are so different in both modern day and historically that the USA shouldnt be compared to Europe or expected to have the same government structure as European countries We are different in population culture size climate history diversity philosophy etc The USA does not need to become another Europe nor should it strive to do so|0 I wish theyd include whether or not it was from travel or unknown public transmission|1 Unless you are buying 2 years worth of TP|1 Yeah fucking tax cuts do that|0 they havent closed the borers yet|1 As are the locusts Itll be a perfect swarm|1 Or hes very sick there is no vaccine and he is likely to die so why not Id try It in that case|0 In a different setting this might make some sense but when your friend is already on a ship that has been quarantined for Covid19 It seems very shortsighted I understand theyre trying to stick with strict testing parameters Im guessing due to the shortage of tests but still|1 read this and try to remain calm httpsthreadreaderappcomthread1236095180459003909htmlEdit Keep in mind that this doesnt factor in secondary infections nor possible reinfection by the coronavirus And this is pretty conservative mathMy advice to everyone happening to read this is to build your immune systems Proper nutrition sleep and exercise Buy vitamin C and D3 Im taking 2000mg of vitamin C and 2000iu of D3 daily I also take Chaga mushroom in capsule form which helps with immunity and inflammation Im immunocompromised so Im in for the fight of my life if I get it Building up our immune systems is the best chance we have|1 I live in Tacoma we just jumped from 4 to 14 confirmed I suspect that number will go much higher today but know not everyone is tested who has symptoms so i suspect its worse I also work in a job that cant be done from home worse I handle money coming in from eight of our stores all over the state I disinfect everything constantly wear gloves when Im handling the money I have three kids in public school in two different buildings One was shut down for a whole day because limited exposure My husband works in Tech out of Kirkland and was taking the bus Last Friday they decided to close the office and have everyone work from home So far all my husband has done is be in meetings 1530 min meetings all day long Its driving him nuts Not to mention being at home all day Hes like a caged animal when I get home Thank goodness the weather has been nice so weve been going for walks My kids take public transit home normally but Ive been taking my lunch break every day to go get them So I eat in the car Yesterday at work they sent two people home to go into quarantine from work because their roommate tested positive Theyre in our warehouse and Im in the office upstairs but it keeps getting closer All the employees come in through the same door climb the same stairs go through the same doors and use the same lunch room We also had three people call out sick yesterday all with respiratory symptoms My workplace claimed they were going to increase cleaning of surfaces but when I left yesterday nothing looked or smelled like anyone had done anything Its probably too late but I wear gloves now when I leave my desk My whole family has hand sanitizer all over the place outside our front door inside the front door everyone has one attached to their bags I want the schools to close but I dont think its going to happen I would pull my kids but two of them are struggling with some classes and it really wont help In truth I dont believe the information we are getting out of the media and our health departments they are under reporting and I think we still have people out there who need to be tested and cant get them I dont feel like I have adequate information to make an informed decision I try not to panic Im certainly not one of those people who ran out to buy TP though I would really like some Kirkland paper towels but just because were out Its a mix up here of people taking it seriously and those who say its just the flu I want to smack those people This will get worse before it gets better If you are a regular person trying to protect your family you cant get answers You do what you can do|1 If he would the virus would be in a lot of trouble with our virus union They have very strict working hours|0 Its perefectly understandable there will be unaccountable spending in military budget due to classified stuff Like that warehouse that was found accidentally that was actually a backup storage for plane parts by the military Turns out had a few billions worth of parts that was never on the DOD books because they were to only be used if shit hit the fan|0 Yeah or theyre banking on a vaccine I guess it kind of makes sense The Americans just developed a vaccine today and sent for human trials|1 Well this is even uglier than it first appeared|0 Actually it was rest of world is screwed and cant contain it and supply chain messed Meanwhile China got that thing under control and managed to increase production to supply rest of world Imagine if supplies was evenly split btwn north America Europe and Asia China is picking up slack for everyone affected doubt any other country or region can get it under control as fast or ramp up production as muchfastChina boosted monthly production by 450 in a month to 110M masks a month and probably 80 of supply now if not more China boosts face mask production in February Total daily capacity rose to 110 million from 20 million in February with 3000 new entrants China made half of the global output in 2019httpswwwscmpcombusinesscompaniesarticle3075289chinaboostsfacemaskproductioncapacity450centmonth|0 Im not a Biden fan but he is doing really really well in places Trump won Reddit isnt a great representation of America I think people just want a return to normal boring politics|1 Infected are contagious for up to two weeks without showing symptoms Have you not seen the twitter videos of people lying in the streets The bodies in the hospital hallway Its entirely possible that this will be worse than you suspect and a prudent person always prepares for the worst|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 There are too few patients in some of these locations for the trials to continue China is reporting single digit numbers of new cases outside of Hubei Also the link you shared is from the Second Affiliated Hospital of Chongqing something like that and theres a very similar study in the First Affiliated Hospital of Chongqing So I guess they are consolidating|1 You can feel sympathetic with how theyre feeling That doesnt mean you have to give them anything|1 I always think its some bad ass agency cos of the gi Joe films|1 One hundred percent Massive introvert here Forced staying home would be lovely|1 Ya dont worry if in 2 weeks or 2 years we find out the entire planet has covid19 the cdc will be happy to tell us that their quarantine criteria is constantly changingHell If were lucky they may even apologize for their shortcomings |1 Let me introduce you to my friend the working class|1 Bruh not everyone in China is bad imagine someone shitting on you for what the american government is doing right now Hes trying to help you and you dont want his help This is ridiculous|0 if that is the case Then the world is fucked|0 Edit the original post with the correct date please|1 The best we will probably get is maybe testing being more common but I doubt well shutdown air travel|1 no way|0 I know of a principal at a school who is intent on going on a booked cruise over Mar break Not gonna isolate doesnt think this is that bad This principal will then just go back to work|0 Connecticut here I work in a suburb of Hartford Schools and libraries are closed but businesses are much slower to respond As of yesterday all bars and restaurants have no eatin option and may be temporarily shutting down but my setuptoberemote office job is not there yetMy two local grocery stores are completely out of vegetables meat dairy paper products pasta bread canned food frozen food and pet food My morning commute is quick with few vehicles on the road There are currently 4 confirmed cases in my county with dozens in surrounding counties but we also have very little testing availableI dispatch technicians for a living and many of the areas we service are completely shut down or techs are taking care of their kids with school not in session or being outright turned away from scheduled repairs Ive been instructed not to dispatch any maintenance calls nothing to schools libraries or nursing homes The remaining work is scarce Many offices are closed down entirely until further notice Im getting 10 emails a day instead of 5070 Highlevel execs in other states have gone mysteriously silentIll be asking to work from home tomorrow|1 Lol yes yes they should All countries should be blocking or limiting travel|1 Data suggest Spain will be way worst than Italy same progression but no action was taken until yesterday several days behind respect Italys response so the title is still correct|0 Yeah bro that doesnt change my 4hour old comment It was a guess|1 I really hope they quarantine at home |1 This is likely more a move to triage thier limited testing capability to determine whether patients being admitted to the hospital can be treated as nonCOVID or COVID19 patients|0 Seeing the streets calm and empty and old couples walking through the park maybe wondering how much time theyve got left but appreciating life and natureTheres a sense of reflection on things that life isnt guaranteed and a reminder were not immortalWe risk our lives daily with bad habits and poor life choices yet seem ok with that because its our choice whereas this virus is obviously not a choice|0 There has been only 1 death in japan and im pretty sure they werent a health worker so idk what the fuck you are talking about The people that went onto the ship and then caught it were not in full protection they were in masks only|0 I remember I took Zinc on empty stomach felt like undead|1 Go through this whole sub put your bias to the side and then tell me you still believe this Ill wait Edit just went through your comment and post history It makes sense now|0 Prove it then should be easy if its fake|0 Doubtful isnt the right word Nearly impossible seems better Too many people myself included are still required to report to work Personally Im in a high traffic building interacting with the Dallas public all day I can and am being personally responsible about handwashing and use of sanitizer but I have exceedingly little control over my environment for 40 hours of the week So far my role is being considered necessary as an on site employee though management chose about 11 others to work from home Even if something changes with my role and Im allowed to work remotely there are probably 60 other employees who simply could not perform their jobs from home|1 13 growth rate is still scary but at least its trending down|0 My university just told all faculty to prepare to be ready to do a fast switch to onlineHowever faculty were also instructed NOT to do anything yet as individuals not to make individual decisions We are actually not allowed to take classes online right now Were just supposed to be ready|1 Its really hard for me to be very critical of Chinas massive response to this when I come from a country where 40000 people die every year because they lack healthcare 40 of cancer patients go bankrupt within a year of diagnosis the severely mentally ill are just left to die in the streets and the federal government is doing nothing to stop the mass closure of rural hospitalsThe PRC may never win Worlds Best Country but people being overly critical dont even have a clue there is no way the US will mount nearly any response in comparison when its this widespread here|0 well its a contagious virus that can possibly spread asymptomatically 14 day incubation period coming from a highly populated epicentre im thinking it is going to make its rounds across the globe eventually i mean im not saying 100 of the population will get it but its probably something we are gonna need to get used to for now just make sure your media comes from a trusted source|1 Avoid political discussions applies to political comments that are not on the topic of 2019nCoV It does not apply to criticism of governments or anything that is not political in nature|1 Well I dont think its an election tactic but I do think its for show to prevent panic Making it seem like the government is doing so muchIs spraying the streets with disinfectant really helpful The virus doesnt remain active for very long outside of a host and people arent getting infected by touching the sidewalk Infection comes from another person who is infected via droplet spread or by touching a recenlty contamination surface and then touching ones face|1 This is it If we see a disruption in the food supply there isnt enough local food in most places to last more than a week Whatever the last shipment to the grocer brought prior to quarantineIf that happens the only way we get food is through emergency intervention brought to us by some govt agencyIf that doesnt happen the only way we get food is through killing each other|0 They are in pretty good health At the beginning one of my friend got so freaked out testing her temp none stop we knew she was worried but it was kinda funny at that time|1 Singapore has told people not to bother with masks and theyre doing really well Masks dont even fully protect healthcare workers who have properly fitted masks and full training in infection control They can also encourage people to feel safe and do activities they may not if they didnt have the masks You would have to destroy the mask as clinical waste daily We have a population of 66 million We dont have enough masks for us to use 66 million a day|1 If the virus is on your hands its not yet in your body So dont touch your face and clean your hands|1 I bought a bottle of Glenlivet 12 for the same price as 6 gross green beers Im going to be dancing a jig knowing Im not in a room full of sick people tonight|0 Thats not a great analogy Almost every replication copy is identical And if an error is made when replicating most of the time it will be neutral and have no effect Most errors will be disadvantageous occasionally an error will give the new replicated virus an advantage Microorganisms replicate much faster than animals do Monitoring how a virus changes is watching evolution take place at super speed|0 He funded the patent for the virus so hed be perfect plus he loves the surplus population|1 Its clear that the US has the worst response to this virus in the world They havent even tested anyone no CDC presence at the nursing home in Washington at all including no doctors on site no contact tracing of exposed people No testing of exposed people Have seen little to no airport screening of people coming from infected countries heard maybe LAX and another one The government is discouraging people from wearing protective equipment as well as dismissal from the countries leaders They have had a few press conferences I guess|0 ELI5 please How does protein folding help with the Coronavirus research I didnt know proteins and viruses were related|1 Ok dont understand what do you mean humanity won|1 Im sorry you have to separate from 2 yr old I have a three year old so I get it The good news is the little ones appear to recover quickly if they get itThe bad news is they become little vectors spreading it about the community|0 My sister in laws child is coughing up a lung and has a runny nose and similar symptoms but they arent worried about it at all Everyone who has any symptoms close to coughing fever shortness of breath should get tested for coronavirus immediately And Im freaking out because he walked over to me just to cough all over me We live in Bremerton close to Seattle with quite a few possible cases|0 Well all the other jobs ended up over seas Theres not much else left|1 But I like organic wank socks|1 Ohio is waiving the one week as well|1 wouldnt that be great if they found out we all got it already and have been living with it and we are immune oh that nasty flu you had it was covid19 youre fine now everyone needs to dream once and a while|0 Only under the instruction from a medical care provider|1 Agree to disagree on wishing the virus on anyone I couldnt agree more about his concern for the markets over life Its disgusting I fear because of our governments actions thus far we may have a worse time than most advanced countries Hang onto your hats its gonna be a bumpy rideEdit pretty sure my aunt has the virus She cant get tested because she has no direct link to a known case How can you know if youve had a direct link when these bastards wont allow testing|0 It is unquestionable logic that leads us to that conclusion There are too many deaths compared to the amount of reported cases in almost every country initially Underreporting is not about asymptomatic individuals they are about people whos symptoms are so mild that they dont go to get tested or just the lack of available tests South Korea has tested more of its population than other countries and they only have 06 CFR So the 2 estimate is too high|0 Ive been asking this question everywhere and searching Wikipedia and I havent been able to get an answerIs there any Coronavirus that we have a successful vaccine for yet And if not why is there any reason to believe we will get one for this virus in less than a year and half Isnt a year and a half basically the fastest POSSIBLE time we could have a vaccine we trust statistically will work Or do some people think this virus is so bad well just skip human trials and immediately start using mostly untested vaccines en masse|1 theres also minimal cases outside of china and most of them have been recent cases we could start seeing people die from this virus we just dont know yet Its too early to call it yet based on what little data we do have|0 I wish you the best of luck stay safe|1 Theres more than 50 people on my jobsite My wifes due in May Going to be talking with the boss tommorrow if the general contractor doesnt do the right thing here Im losing sleep over it|0 This is the turning point of hysteria More and more people will calm down and everything will be okNow is the time to start buying stocks|0 Im perplexed They dont support travel restrictions quarantine measures closing borders I watched a propaganda meeting for a half hour|0 My state has just locked down every restaurant theater and bar after 5 PMI work for a bank as IT We are only sending immunocompromised people home to work and the rest of us are potentially spreading it around Im freaked out but I cant stop coming to work and Im a contractor so I have no leave technically I could really use this cuz if I get sickIm screwed|0 Steely Dan and Climate change Fucking lol Thats the best sentence Ive read in a long time|1 What are you a moron or something We can make all those products anywhere in the world|0 Sounds like someones teeth need some breaking|1 Thats how ours was I think my husband and I had fevers of 103104 and the kids were up to 105 And the thing was it felt like it went on forever Its one thing to be sick for 3 or 4 days but our fevers were spiking again almost week later It was crazy We were mostly better at about day 9 except for some coughing but man it was something elseIt was also very hard to be sick and try to care for sick kids Our kids are early teens and this was the first big virus weve had like this Weve gone through norovirous with one bathroom lol and hand foot mouth strep and a wide assortment of smaller viruses but this one was the worst by farI cant imagine the feelings of both you and your wife going through that while being pregnant That would be so stressful on top of everythingIm extra scared because of this being so recent Im sure Its easy to forget what being sick is like when you havent had something major happen in a long time|0 Please yourself means httpsdictionarycambridgeorgdictionaryenglishpleaseyourselfWhat an obscure phrase I dont care about Chinese peoples hurt feelings You often conflate your government with your country anyhow soOnce again distracting from the fact that your original statement is false Your declaration and your assertion have no bearing on the fact that what you said Nobody is blaming the Chinese people for this is 100 false So enjoy your incredibly thin skinLmao Im not the one crying when being called out for spreading lies Or provide any proof that Chinese people are being blamedHere ya go httpsnpredditcomrnewscommentseq7htgthenumberofpeoplealreadyinfectedbythefeozwedhttpsnpredditcomrnewscommentseq7htgthenumberofpeoplealreadyinfectedbythefepeu8pprobably a bunch more i missed in the replies to httpsnpredditcomrnewscommentseq7htgthenumberofpeoplealreadyinfectedbythefeorht4httpsnpredditcomrFuturologycommentserndv4officialsjustconfirmedchinasmysteryvirusff62f2yhttpswwwremovedditcomrFuturologycommentserndv4ff6b63mhttpsnpredditcomrFuturologycommentserndv4officialsjustconfirmedchinasmysteryvirusff5jjhfhttpsnpredditcomrFuturologycommentserndv4officialsjustconfirmedchinasmysteryvirusff7ks45httpsnpredditcomrFuturologycommentserndv4officialsjustconfirmedchinasmysteryvirusff5lp5phttpsnpredditcomrworldnewscommentsequmelnumberofpeopleinfectedbythemysteriousfeyh072httpsnpredditcomrnewscommentses65grchinasaysnewvirusadaptingandmutatingff8rohrId go on but youre capable of using search too|0 Only if people follow the rules If infected people sneak in then were back to square one Border control will be necessary Test and quarantine all newcomers The world will be weird for a while|0 Hey I prepped with frozen pizzas pizza rolls bagel bites 3 gallons of ice cream and 75 lbs of mozzarella sticks I am down to 3 lbs of bacon so Im will be forced to replenish that this week I have 2 teenagers and when not if we are 90 miles from the Bay area they are home 247 they can at least eat My sanity is worth something|0 Silly question how is covid19 being treated now in hospitals in general if there is no cure for it|0 I was on the Diamond Princess this summer The interior rooms are really small We had 2 small kids with us and they had bunk beds that swing down from the ceiling So two single beds for my wife and I and two more beds that swing down It was really cramped I could swing the bunks back up into the ceiling during the day but my kids would have gone crazy in there My wife and I would have also gone crazy listening to this song httpsyoutubeYyWMkOW55g0t773httpsyoutubeYyWMkOW55g0t773|0 hahahaha had to tell my mum in scotland exactly this She was worried and trying to get me to repatriate I had to explain why i was more worried about the situation her side Fortunately shes an excare assistant so she knows exactly how to minimise her risk But man I hope sturgeon decides to take a little more proactive action in Scotland That speech yesterday by Johnson is a bit of a concern|1 Vitamin C supplements were out at every store I was in last week and yet theyre not the sheeple|1 Indeed also at that point the central government was issuing statements saying that everyone who needed it would be given hospital care which resulted in a huge surge in demand as the initial scare took hold I suspect that the lockdown was an attempt to keep that under control just as much as it was for sound medical planning|0 In layman terms if I am correct I was a chemistry technician not a microbiologistyou swab a infected patient sample then remove all the bacterias to get only the virus purified the solution from the rest the virus shell is then destroyed lysated leaving only the RNA strand of genetic information from 2019nCoV Only specific short genomes are used for visual detection by using a Polymerase Chain Reaction in a constant temperature duplication mode instead of a standard Thermocycler to amplify those short viral stands via an enzyme the viral snippets are then dyed and with a light you can visually change the color from colorless to blue to get faster result if you are infected|1 officials are concerned the states three labs in Miami Jacksonville and Tampa will be overwhelmed by the number of tests slowing the entire processYes It really speeds things up when you avoid the work Source have been employed|0 dumb fucks|0 Seriously cooking all your meals is not that bad|1 Thy smart|1 One thing i can say is its over bro reinfected and we have this all over the news if 80 get immune we can fight this|0 AND WEIRD Love you PDX|1 Or stay home like a sane person if they can|1 None of that is proven to work for critical cases Antivirals usually work best if taken before symptoms become much worse|0 We have MAJOR buck passing by politicians and senior officials They are all listening to experts Im sure the CMO has a few junior experts lined up to blame Deputy heads will rollI dont know but i would not be surprised if Dominic Cummings was fully behind this darwinian strategy|0 Im in a province with no confirmed cases yet and our Costco sold out within 45 minutes a day or so ago and the Walmarts have been pretty much out|1 If they voted for him then they fucked themselves too|0 I believe youre correct about case fatality rate equals ratio of deaths to diagnosis and i think death rate is ratio of deaths to actual infected people the number is unknown because then every person on earth would need to be testedFor example in Germany there are more than 200 diagnosed with the virus and no one has died yet I believe the actual number of people infected is much higher maybe even 5 times as high and therefore the death rate is really low 0307 meaning 3 to 7 times more deadly than the flu|0 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Wuhan is an unfortunate outcome of lack of preparation and lack of understanding of the virus behaviors and of course bureaucracyAs long as the local governments remain vigilant which assume they will now the measures they have put in place and facilities they have built up in rest of China should be more than sufficient to keep the spread under control not totally killing it but they should be able to identify test and isolate cases fast enough to prevent another large scale outbreak|0 The reason why there are so many antivaxxers today is because unlike previous generations they havent seen epidemics of lethal diseases firsthand This will definitely help them wake up at least some of them|1 Last day Capricorn fifteens Year of the city 2274 Carousel begins Capricorn fifteens born 2244enter the Carousel This is the time of renewalBe strong and you will be renewed Identify Rise|1 In the Coronavirus case you should be preparing to make as little trips outside as possible In the worst case scenario being that this virus is not an end of the world one But the Department of Homeland Security United States recommends a 2 week supply of food and water for a pandemic So in my opinion you should aim for about a months worth of food and waterSourcehttpswwwreadygovpandemichttpswwwreadygovpandemic|1 Wow I created this How cool|1 Youd be surprised by how many people lie about the dumbest shit on reddit for karma|0 But it is also political despite your wishes this administration has been messing with the agencies that could respond to issues like these while giving tax breaks to the rich Are you going to tell the people that get sick that is not political The family of those who died People that cant afford a quarentine that is not political while right now Trump is trying to cripple Medicare Trying to destroy ACAIt is political because how ready we are to face things like these is up to the federal government and they have been doing nothing but destroying what could help while giving hand outs to the rich|1 Good post Our inability to think in the long term and act for the good of the species is going to make for some rough years ahead|1 Great post It feels everyone on here just wants to read and and post the govt strategy is moronic Tory nonsense and they want to make people suffer We are running a different strategy to Italy lets see if works The plan is made my experts in the light and benefit of a few weeks more evidence|0 I applaud them trying but they got a million more I was just there 199 for 10 N95 masks and something called N95 PM25 that is actually an air pollution mask PM25 and not N95 at all leaves them with a long way to go Lots of examples to the point that I dont even shop amazon anymore|1 Were stuck in a never ending cycle of trying to be the world police and starting useless wars that we cant even fathom putting taxes towards a system like this that would cost less than the wars we keep starting Its viewed as too costlyThat and our insane fixation on individualism makes us incapable of implementing something like this for fear of feeling like were supporting some stranger with our individual efforts Never mind the fact that there are other socialist programs all throughout our government system|0 cool cool great update thnx|1 Nice|1 Not all people are as well off as you this really will help me make ends meet I dont appreciate your snarkiness|1 Each to their own It seems so inevitable maybe you have a certain logic Then again if I feel I can at all avoid it I will certainly try After all you can control your environment without specialist equipment|1 Then again those who did come from those places werent checked either Still i agree with you But the article has shown more than that hotline that was introduced for this is confusing AF physician did not want to check him etcThe reasonable thing would have been to calm the person Check if he really has not have had contact to the area Advising to stay home if uncertain|1 Jesus Christ this is embarrassing|0 Amazon is working on it now It just cancer HIV etc have been prioritized|0 Im not dead yet Im part of the 36 of Americans with compromised immune systems Hopefully wont be part of the 38 dead|1 How dare people talk about fighting the disease lets ban talking about solutions Reddit is insane and stupid sub rules prevent smart people from sharing amazing preventive medicine|0 So 1824 months of total lockdown Yeah thats going to workNot even the Chinese needed to lockdown completely and certainly not for 24 months as most places are beginning to reopen 1 You build up immunity in the general populationActually general immunity has not yet been proven in Covid19 although I do believe that it will prevail a Chinese study has shown that this cannot be taken for granted Additionally it is also proving to have a range of long term consequences on survivors read long term strain on health services 2 You dont overload your critical care facilities and are able to treat those who need itDoesnt proper quarantine measures do this same thing much more effectivelyIm not trying to contradict you for sake of contradiction But it is important to have a balanced fact based discussion|1 Wouldnt it be fantastic if it did blow over and we could all just get on with our lives I am sick of worrying about it and the real trouble hasnt even hit us yet Nobody seems to think it will actually affect them because its still not here Here being right in front of them and visible My manager said this morning that we likely wouldnt close retail joy and things would carry on as normal Hopefully in about a fortnight once reality ensues they will be using the gloves and sanitiser I got them four weeks ago and fingers crossed that wont be too late|0 But isnt that better than nothing if you need to re use them in an emergency where you have nothing at all besides that|0 Ridiculous Thanks for the link|1 Did you forget the bit about saving the whales|0 I just obtained some myself Who panics first panics best|0 Except the CCP is saying something different Theyre giving solid numbers they pulled out of their ass If they were being half as transparent they would be giving estimates and making it abundantly clear that they have no way to truly know how bad this is|1 As US citizen I legit just burst into hysterical laughter reading this headline for the 1st time Shit is fuckinh broken yo Broken|0 Oh god I hope you have healthcare provided by your travelers insurance|1 That can easily change in two days|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I wonder if Canada is just relying on US data because no testing or easily available data collection on respiratory viruses seems to have been done for awhile I would love to be proved wrong|1 Its so embarrassing to get what we deserve|0 Nice other companies should follow|1 oh thank fuck|0 Its a conspiracy theory all over WeiboTheyre saying the US brought the coronavirus over to Wuhan during the 2019 Military World Games in October |0 True Goes for all departments too|1 You dont even need to deep clean the ship All you have to do is have it parked for 9 days and whatever virus was on any surfaces will be gone on its own|1 Yep and whereas china can build a hospital in 6 days in europe it would probably be faster to develop a vaccine The benefits of authoritarianism|1 If people keep posting reality it might make me question my politics Its very offensive|0 there are conditions under which trading may be halted by an exchange for a security or group of securities Its baked into the system|1 Its so weird how disease susceptibility can vary so much between ethnic groups|0 I agree I hope everyone wakes up and starts caring more about the truth than their fragile feelings and false bubbles they have been living inWe are all in for a huge challenge|1 The greed|0 Id expect the average person in a nursing home to not merely be that old but also have preexisting conditions they need to be nursed for which may well half your chances|1 You made me cry with the image of your mom at the other side of the doorBe strong You will be fine|1 Nobody knows this We will see ifwhen the time comes Best not to panic hope for the best and prepare for the worst without exaggerating Do not take measures that will impede your normal life if somehow this situation finds a solution in the near future As in dont sell your housecars and run in the mountains or some stupid thing like that But do get prepared so you at least have something for bad times|1 Actually no even youth can need serious hospitalization Stop minimizing and educate yourself spreading misinformation is as bad as spreading germs httpsredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfiofhe16yearolddutchboyonintensivecateicafteredit changed kids to youth|0 Good point But the transport hubs will be full of commuters and they seem to have been to several big department stores as well|1 This is about to get interesting|1 Did the offshore team just want a light Friday Bangalore had a few cases of Swine Flu last week but not covid19|0 Here in France were in phase 285 tomorrow well be in phase 286 When it gets to phase 299 suddenly well make the smooth transition into phase 2991 2992|1 Remember this is not the only place on the internet to get coronavirus information If I remember right and Ive been counting smile there must be a million of them on the Internet Ive seen tons of them if you dont like all the US people on here go visit one of the other sites|1 The administration is trying number one to buy time for people to prepare extra food medicine supplies Also retool manufacturing sources for medicine and medical supplies Soon they need to begin making makeshift medical facilitiesIf people panic and go black Friday across the nation on supermarkets that is going to be more dangerous than the virus itselfLike it or not were stuck with the CCP throughout this mess Its important we maintain a working relationship until this pandemic is under control This is our best shot at keeping supply lines open developing treatments and cures as well as containing the virus overall|0 Matthew 18212221 Then Michael came to Jesus and said Lord how many motherfuckers gonna die from corona seven motherfuckers 22 Jesus said to him I tell you not seven motherfuckers but seventy times seven And Michael said Daaaaamn dog And Michael went on The Today Show|0 Dear GOD that is a frightening jump|1 I saw a news interview with a student living in Wuhan who said there was an outbreak of pneumonia starting in late September which worsened in November They were told at the time that it was normal Video httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv8uIVfo9aXMt1shttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv8uIVfo9aXMt1s|0 In Italy they are doing the impossible to block the diffusion of the virus In the entire Lombardy region Italy about 10 Million people they are closing EVERYTHING meaning gyms cinema theaters sport locations everything The army is enforcing closures httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar07italysettohttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar07italysetto I have family there and at this point everyone is starting to realize THIS IS WARwe have no idea in USA what is coming in the next month Even if only 2 of people die hospitalization rate for recovery is 10 That means that if those 10 dont get medical attention they die as wellx200BWe need to help stop the diffusion of virus here Stop going to the mall sport events restaurants everything not essential MUST stop now|0 Im a bartender at an Irish Pub weve been packed all night Dont wanna even be here but I have no money saved up|1 I find it really frustrating that the US CDC cited the Korean air stewardess who tested positive was not a risk to the general public when they were in Los Angeles because they werent symptomatic at the time Thats contrary to all the evidence saying infected can spread the disease even when asymptomatic|0 Thanks|1 But 80 of SK just sounds like more punches|1 I reccomend the Witcher 3 Wild hunt a proper good game you can sink hours into But try and get some social contact isolation to that extent is beyond unhealthy for the mind and soul|0 Hungarys firdt victim is from 15 weeks ago total scan is around 60|0 Seattle area publichealth officials are at the ready to start ordering involuntary isolation and quarantines currently at level 2 voluntary isolation Levels 34 involve increasing involuntary isolation and institutional closures Level 5 is cordon sanitaire similar to recent action in Italyhttpswwwseattletimescomseattlenewshealthseattleareaofficialoutlinespotentialnextstepsincoronavirusresponseincludingcancellationofeventshttpswwwseattletimescomseattlenewshealthseattleareaofficialoutlinespotentialnextstepsincoronavirusresponseincludingcancellationofevents|0 Im in the US and the 6 weeks thing is so infuriating Whoever came up with that must not have given birth Its honestly inhumane to think telling a woman she needs to hand her one and a half month old newborn over to family if shes lucky or hired help nannybabysitterdaycareetc is okay and expect her to be prepared calm and not distracted There are a few women who are totally happy with that but not many We arent even fully healed by 6 weeksEdit words are hard|1 Cheers thanks for this My wife is an ICU nurse so Ill be sharing it out|1 Lucky 3 danm|1 The headline never accused Tesla of being unreasonable though|1 CDCgovhttpsCDCgov website today Cases in the US Last updated March 7th Total cases 164 Total deaths 11 This page will be updated regularly at noon Mondays through FridaysGuess the CDC is taking the weekend off WTF|0 I cant say Im surprised to learn this Even my relatives who were Trump voters in the last election are realizing President Cheeto Wig as I jokingly call him can be a freaking idiot at the best of times How can anyone listen to just one speechaddress by him and think hes a flawless paragon of intelligence and eloquence Even relatives who hated Obama admit that Obama didnt sound like a doddering grandfather who forgets what he was talking about two minutes ago|0 Imagine if this was China how people would be tripping over themselves to condemn the evil commies|0 And Ive had two job interviews cancel in the past week Grrrrr|0 I agree the governemt is for the people no need to hide anything The truth will always finds its way anyway|1 You sir are a piece of shit|0 While millions of miles is hyperbole its understandable and I hope youre correct on the rest|1 Okay until it is consensus your opinion holds the same merit as my linked coverage|1 And killing off people Youre an awful person|0 Take the comorbidities section with a big grain of salt The death statistics are clearly skewed towards older people Comorbidity is also more likely among that cohort Its incorrect for them to say hypertension grants a 6 chance of dying They should have made clear that 6 of the dead had hypertension If you look at the age statistics of hypertension you could just as likely conclude that hypertension makes you less likely to die|0 Those bootleggers should be put to work in hospitals filled with corona victims cleaning bedpans until this is all over Make them useful before they die|0 CDC is just trying to cover for their lack of ability to test due to lack of tests which was their responsibility|0 Ibuprofen Cortisone were mentioned in a tweet by the French Minister of Health of what not to use From what I understand inhalers used by people with asthma are a corticosteroid mist to suppress their immune system in their lungs so inflammation doesnt happenSee this commenthttpswwwredditcomrCanadaCoronaviruscommentsfkhxmjsomewarnagainstantiinflammatorydrugstotreatfkuajbw I made in a different thread to somebody else asking about codeineIt looks like to me that NSAIDs and corticosteroids are the problem because they both suppress the immune system to prevent inflammation So Coronavirus can just come in and multiply unopposed|1 Not exactly You ever watch Last Man on Earth Sorta like that so no zombersMaybe I should have added that it was a joke Trying to lighten the mood a little because this is sorta scary I worry a lot more about peoples reactions than the virus itself TBH but I also worry about people like my 94 year old grandmother and my family who are in their 60s and 70sThe biggest actual step Ill be taking in the next couple weeks is the purchase of a nice little survival riflehttpswwwdickssportinggoodscomphenryussurvivalar7rifle15bhcahnryssrvvl2rif15bhcahnryssrvvl2rif that takes down fast and fits inside its own buttstock I dont think a SFTF scenario is going to happen but it will be nice to have and 22lr is the absolute cheapest ammo you can get so in the long run it will save me money due to the cost of target practice anywayMy intent is also not protection with this its mainly for plinking or small game should that ever arise sooner or later|1 I mean while I do think we should also turn away US citizens there are definitely other considerations at this time that I can understand leading them to this decision|1 Thank you yes I have started limiting where I read information and discussions too The two extremes of fearmongering and dismissing concern got to be overwhelming|1 Thats for people who already have the virus Getting 83mg daily may be enough to stop it from ever entering youI wonder why isnt the government recommending we drink a litre of tonic water a day Its not like we have anything to lose I doubt people are going to die from a simple beverage that you can find in stores This could have a spectacular effect on the spread of the epidemic making it a non issue in a few weeks If it works well against malaria theres no reason it cant be effective against coronavirus which on its own is a less severe disease|0 Since there is a question on Chinas available resources to test and ID new infections it may be best to look at the increases in criticalsevere cases rather than new infections|1 Damn proud to live in a country like DK we are not afraid to scarifice our freedom and part of our economy to help the vulnerableWe stand together if this saves even just a fraction of those who would have died its still worth itAlso having a head of state with the guts to admit that they dont know everything but will continue to do their very best is exactly what we need truth and transparency|1 Death does not equal coronavirus They only count coronavirus if they actually test the personcadaver There is no testing Just wait well have you death count soon Youll only know when there are no hospital beds left|0 Thanks for correction|1 the IMF said that almost 40 of the corporate debt in eight leading countries the US China Japan Germany Britain France Italy and Spain would be impossible to service if there was a downturn half as serious as that of a decade agohttpswwwtheguardiancombusiness2019oct16globaleconomyfaces19tncorporatedebttimebombwarnsimf|0 And this is in America that has so few cases spread over such a large area you can imagine the anxiety running around this city now|0 Yup Good point It was much easier fo SK to target this hot spot rather than trying to contact trace a bunch of unrelated cases|1 Yeah like Chernobyl or something Its unreal|1 Which one is worse in your opinion|0 If I was old or in poor health and the chance of dying from infection is 510 or more Id take the risk Now being young and healthy with much smaller risk not so much|0 Too bad we still need money to survive|0 Multiple times Both the government and the media The same government also said that testing mild cases or asymptomatic people that had been in contact with infected people was counterproductive However when one of them got infected and tested despite having mild symptoms all of them got automatically testedAlso the vicepresident and probably the president himself where supposed to be in quarantine since their wifes were infected Yet they both attending to the meeting to approve the state of alarm|0 I heard 180000 American troops apparently This will not be fun Its needed though Stay safe dude|1 lol what the fuck is a water worker|0 NoAnd you cant measure r0 in a lab Its to a large degree dependent on how people behave R0 on the cruise ship is different than in that SK cult and r0 in Singapore is much lower All for the very same virusAnd 10 is ludicrous That would be only beaten by the measles China would look very differentworse with an r0 if 6 to 10In most places it seems to be somewhat above 2 cruise ship will be higher|0 Timeline of the 201920 Wuhan coronavirus outbreakThis article documents the chronology and epidemiology of the Novel coronavirus responsible for the 201920 outbreak in Wuhan China and may not include all contemporary major responses and measures Furthermore some developments may become known or fully understood only in retrospect PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 But does virus circulate in the air like birds flying all over in the air|1 I first registered as a Socialist changed to Dem when I realized ideals would only take you so far I garden I post a lot about not using pesticides and fungicides and about the insects and birds die offs Ive been an environmentalist all my life and I try to lead a good life and be decent to other people I was against the war all of them I marched Christ from what you read here its like every boomer is Satans spawn So thank you for not being a dick really thank you|1 Good luck winning the case in italian court|1 Ive been really curious about this one from Cleveland httpswwwcnncom20200117healthfluohioteenkayleerobertsdeathepriseindexhtml|1 People usually need to get rich first before they can give away money|1 Might be worth it to set up a private web stream such as a teamviewer meeting and give the access code to those who want to be there but cant|1 Man It feels like we are going to have 1000s of cases in nyc by Monday|1 Except they need to be high quality and probably need to regulate about 15 bar from a roughly 4 bar sourceI have no doubt that you could get all the valves regulators solenoids and gauges that you need from Grainger Youd probably have to use a manuallyadjusted regulator to provide the proper inlet pressure since electronic regulators are dramatically more expensive and probably more scarce with the Chinese supply chain disruptions I dont know enough about ventilators to know how much variation is needed in pressure from patient to patientIts also going to be pure o2 so will have to be high quality machined metalSimilar industrial valveregulator components are used for oxyacetylene torches so I dont think theres any concern about them handling O2I think it will need a collaboration between printing and machining to make something useful100 agreed No need to try and reinvent the wheel when so many modular components already exist for welding SCUBA gear etc|0 Dont murder me with downvotes but I was planning on voting for him again After this shit show with coronavirus Im switching to democrat|0 Im not OP Context in this case is the ICU Leave the discussion of absolute safety for threads in which people are suggesting they or others selfmedicate|1 As a selfdescribed recovering philosopher its particularly difficult to watch The Prisoners Dilemma manifest in such a terrible way in reality|0 Ignorance and habit arent mutually exclusive If youre talking to a foreigner and you dont have the awareness to understand theyre not American and are probably asking for your nationality not what town youre from Id argue its a form of ignorance|0 Actually thats not a bad idea Hold the Olympics But dont let anyone watch unless its through a screen|1 Yeah remember it lets never forget some of the shit weve seen|1 I wore one to the supermarket today and I didnt notice much of a reaction the way the news is going people wont be laughing much longerNow is the time to wear them|0 Due to a shortage of condoms the WHO has advised that there is absolutely no reason to use them as when used incorrectly are ineffective You should only use them if you are showing symptoms When asked if condoms are effective the WHO responded well the paper condoms have been shown to offer no protection|0 That is the case with certain diseases such as chickenpox becoming shingles at old age But I dont think weve really seen any evidence that that is the case with this coronavirus We already have other coronaviruses floating around and they dont permanently stay in your body after you catch one and your body defeats it|0 Wont work I didnt understand at first but all of southeast asia together doesnt have the capacity of China Basically because it doesnt have the infrastructure and population I dont have access to the Journal but heres the title of an article My info actually came from a business show and my googlefu is failing and no allowing me to locate a transcript httpswwwwsjcomarticlesformanufacturersinchinabreakingupishardtodo11566397989alsoVietnam ranks 55th on the World Banks Global Competitiveness Index which assesses infrastructure labour market efficiency and education among other factors compared to 27 for China httpswwwftcomcontentbab2e03ad82711e98f9b77216ebe1f17|0 No one knows ahead of time Its all a complex calculation on your insurance plan cost sharing copay what treatment is needed whether its in network or not etcYou basically just know its going to be painful but ha e no idea of costsFor testingI guess it would be cost of year lab fees but good luck getting a straight answer out of anyone|1 Lol next time try without the garlic sore throats dont last long for the common cold|1 Nicnesss is seen as weaknessIts part of one of the massive failings of Asian culture and the reason why I find it so difficult to live herePeople are too concerned about saving face and faking it until they make it they they forget about the making it partOne of my companies is in business and marketing consulting agency basically taking small start ups to export standard and building their brand up for expansion to Western countriesThe number of brands operated out of condo rooms with 10 monthly sales and negative cash flow who act like theyre Revolve 20 is ridiculousFor the new brands we sign a year long exclusivity deal and we pay for the marketing warehousing photography online sales customer service etc The business model only breaks even at the six month mark and the idea is thst we take all the risk on their products working The general feedback is oh we dont need that as they go back to begging for six likes on IG and spending four hours a day spamming messages to customers You cant help each other because admitting that you arent 1000 flawless is seen as losing face and therefore they never move from the very initial stages of anything because they all think they were born running As an end result you dont see society helping each other like the narrative says collective in the sense that uniformity is ensured but not collective in the sense of rising tides and ships|0 Say that to my immunocompromised husband Its people like you who put vulnerable people at risk|0 Or 09 of the population of Wuhan Not to make light of things but considering what the governments currently doing its ok|1 Sadly by the time every one is on board with the situation is past late|0 Haha getting 1k karma in a few days by shitposting is pretty commendable|1 AddendumThis video is political and may not be for everyone Unfortunately I dont have a breakdown of timestamps My intention was to share that while political in nature this meeting did have appropriate topics that were addressed supply shortages realistic numbers that the medical industry may have to deal with over the next few months logical discussion about uncertainty of numbersdata coming out of China and also briefly addresses how the warm weather in both Wuhan and also Singapore doesnt seem to be impacting the transmission of SARSCOV 2 in the ways which were expected Always find and verify information and think for yourself I hope this is helpful to those who either choose to listen or do not I am just trying to be helpful Thank you|1 Its tough to strike a balance Is everyone going to die No Will a lot of people become infected even mildly Yes Will basic supplies be in high demand If its anything like Wuhan or Milan youre better off just having more stuff than not having more stuff|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Right I know I was just commenting with regard to the likelihood Young healthy people can die from the flu but it is rare So statistically speaking what are the chances of all of the infections that just one that we were made aware of in the media died from it Im not sure if Ive written that so it makes sense Simply I wonder if this bug is more likely to kill the young and healthy than they are letting on|0 Oh great a 2050 rise in autism|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 But can the authorities give them a specific test for this virus when they still have no symptoms|0 Good post Might push climate change back a bit or make people really think about the capitalist ideologies that are speeding it up Its a hope anyway|1 Apparently someone in the rChinaFlu subreddit warns Heads up Possible nationwide lock down in US on monday They the began the thread warning to take it with a grain of salt however they then continued to comment I dont have a direct source in this case but indirect source is someone at the pentagon|0 Lunch time drinking is alright but obviously like in work dont overdo it plus if sunny then it is more than alright Other recommendations include having a separate area for working and resting if you dont have a desk then use a dining room or kitchn table not your sofa or bed|1 Or maybe the real problem is public officials refuse to announce who has the virus|0 Lol The Chinese rig financial data in grandiose ways and financial data is in the end checkable with great effort You really think that the fact Mr Xhou expired from Wuhan virus stops anyone from writing down it was the common cold heart attack or whatever elseThe Chinese government sent in Army doctors and with it the Army which is there to keep the wheels rolling in the right direction|1 Someone posted a snap of a truck in a town an hour away toting 2 well stacked pallets of TP in a Ford F150100 can assure you that guy does not have IBS or is buying for a business or even to be a gracious person and hand out free TP in his neighborhoodHe absolutely is seeing and thinks hell sell it for 20 a rollIt will be so sweet when the State Police get wind of that and roll in and take his Toilet Paper fort|1 You are welcome|1 Lol people downvoting me clearly dont work for any of the companies in question Seriously go learn how corporate fiscal years work They are all on FY2021|1 What app is this It looks like Baidu Maps but its not|1 Oh wow did the target CEO just trigger a run on his own stores with his statement We are so fucked This country is literally Idiocracy|0 There are many kids who eat free breakfast and lunch at school in America Some kids at Title 1 schools also eat dinner before they go home At our local school district theres also a program called Backpack Snacks where kids take a backpack of food home over the weekend to ensure they eat It seems most schools are working to make this work in their districts to feed kids while schools are out local restaurants with big hearts are trying to fill in the gaps of a program already in place|1 Its important to note you will have to go to the post office if its unwise to leave your package at your front door but if people are able to social distance they should be able to prevent the need to go to the post office from happening Obviously this will suck for people who still have to work but this is why its important for nonessential jobs for the continuation of public necessities be shut down|0 Agreed I started denying visitor privileges two weeks ago|1 Incidentally Russia spends 111 as much as the US and still manage to maintain the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and an active military 23 the size of the US They also manage to defend a territory that is 75 larger than the US on that budgetThe US spends that much because it needs to invade countries on the other side of the Earth That is expensive Actually defending your own borders is pretty cheap|1 Yea if its not Fox news its Fake |0 This is misleading because we really dont know how many people might have coronavirus so the denominator right now is pretty small|1 Since when it is worse to know about science and politics than just wanting to prove evolution doesnt exist and black people deserve to be arrested without proper trial|0 Yeah exactly They are encouraging plague spreading behavior with a really lame hazard bonus that only kicks in if you get sick I can actually see some people finding it to be their best shot at time off this year|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Had this argument in class yesterday Explained to people even if it didnt effect them that much theyre still a carrier Which means they can infect their parents and grandparents No one seemed to care|0 Yeah and one MFer sneezes in the elevator and every one of those toothpicks is a way to get infected Im not impressed by this kind of shit Its not really the thought that counts|0 No kidding I love how it specifically states three years Im sure as soon as Trump got into office he made a point to cut as much funding as possible to CDC and pandemic prevention as well as making sure we are less prepared for for any type of health crisisThis isnt about left vs right Hate Trump or Love him no one cares This is an on going issue Im sure it traces back to Trump along with Obama and Bush Do people really think if Hillary would have won this wouldnt be happeningHopefully this serves as a wake up call for the US as well as the rest of the world and doesnt turn into some political tool to gain votes Changes need to happen in the government funding to prevent this but its not about left vs right|1 Yes I also think the ban is understandable|0 Probably not honestly|0 The situation in China is not some of you think it is Its more like people all work together to fight the virus back instead of oh the government is being the big bully forcing people to stay at home and take sick people away by force like FBI|0 I respect that and feel for you Avoiding work is not an option for everyone Stay safe and do what you can As wbacktoHarp mentioned exercise at home instead of going to the gym and go to a grocery store less frequently masks if you have them hand washing skipping hand shakes Japanese bows head nods or Live long and prosper Vulcan greetings from afarWishing you the very best in this God bless|1 i did my hopefully last prep shopping today and if i had a mask i would have worn it cant be too safe rn|0 Lol eats chicken Washes hands Licks hands|1 Insence lasting an hour Caught 20 pokemon in 1 hour usually youre lucky if you get 2 spawns per insence Also 30 insence for 1 coinBut to be honest with the weather the way it is we usually just drive around and only do raids we can reach from the car|1 Theres really no point in continuing this conversation if you are going to keep misrepresenting what I am saying Is your reading comprehension really this bad With regards to this There are sex workers who are there because its easy money And there are sex workers who are there because they have no other choice You refuse to distinguish between these two categoriesI clearly stated that there are women who enjoy sex work and do it freely without coercion via poverty for the money Unfortunately they are very much in the minority Most sex workers do not have the luxury of choice you get in bed pardon the pun with social conservatives in your anti sex pro shaming crusadeIts almost as if people can have complex nuanced political views without being chained to one single side of the political spectrum for every single issue Yes I do indeed shame men for participating in the rape and exploitation of women you blame men for womens choices assuming were discussing women who do this voluntarilyAgain reading comprehension is not your strong suit I was very clearly talking about the majority of sex workers who are in the industry through financial necessityslavery not through their own choice I clarified this several times Yes I do blame men for choosing to pay to sexually assault women You are part of the reason why these sex workers sufferMen are the reason they sufferThis is why misogynists are so tragic yet comical you hurt your fellow human beings with your supremacist hyper sexualised ideologyI will not continue this discussion if you continue to either intentionally or mistakenly through your own stupidity misconstrue and misrepresent my argument|0 Well thats unexpected good news Somewhat I bet we were cheap|1 Its a weird time No doubt|0 There needs to be a way to get these tests to qualified people that can carry out the analysis There are tons of labs across the world that would be able to run ELISA testing Is there something that Im missing why these facilities couldnt be utilized|0 It was remarkably short However it seems like hes still trying to make it look like hes taking action without actually taking actionTravel is dying on its own so its unlikely to hurt the economy as much as a quarantine|1 Probably to differentiate the severity Like upper good recovery may be zero side effects while lower godo recovery may be some negative side effects but not enough to qualift for disability|0 Yes very unlikely as would imply huge R0 value|1 I should have linked to the study in my comment lol Everything I mentioned came from this article The median days from first symptom to death were 140 range 641 dayshttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoiabs101002jmv25689afR|0 Just a question Any stats based on the race Black people Arabs or Asians are affected in the same way as Whites|0 If it wasnt for the flags shadow Id have no idea if the stream was frozen or not |0 Well I looked at the data and the data says the disaster is real and that one or two months from now theyll converting stadiums into makeshift wards for the sickThis wasnt the case for Ebola|0 Alright so let me spell it out for you I care about myself the most as you should in emergenciesI have learned it that way I dont see any life threatening virus for myself because the chance of death is pretty much 0 for me If a old person gets it it aint my fault the stories I have heard from the 4 elderly people that died in my country from it All already were pretty mutch dying the virus just gave that last push Its not a big suprise that elderly people die like a big percentage does that from the normal flu as well I know that this isnt the normal flu but my point still stand Btw calling me a arsehole isnt gonna help anyone|0 There was some kind of top health official in Iran who was at a press conference with a bunch of cameras sweating profusely and clearly miserable He died from the virus a few days later Scary to see Edit The health minister on the video tested positivehttpswwwbbccomnewsworldmiddleeast51628484 I was wrong he did not die but several of Irans other government officials did While trying to Google this I learned that Iran is apparently digging mass graveshttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar12coronavirusiranmassgravesqom that can be seen from satellites soooit doesnt sound good over there|0 promise I dont have corona virus its just a precaution bc as a senator I cant get a test even though the Jazz can get 50 in short order|1 This sounds like a really shitty stand in for the summer olympics|0 None of those are as big a disease risk as bats or batadjacent animals like civets or pangolinsAnd you dont transport them alive in large groups to markets where diseases can fester and accumulate with each new arrivalAnd selling game meat is heavily regulatedhttpsbrokenarrowranchcomblogswildandpurewildgamemeatinspectionsomesurprisingrequirementsTheres a reason why there arent these types of zoonotic outbreaks in North America like there are in Africa and Asia Stop making false equivalences|0 Finding investors shouldnt be hard though With the market in freefall this is an investment that seems safe|1 If hes wrong I can look back and laugh a little at how silly and worried we areIf hes right I can look back and reflect a little|0 I am over here sick for a week with bronchitis I will never know My dog walker and food delivery people both had gloves on onlysocialinteractionalldayDoc said I have bronchitis wsuspected covid 19 No testSame symptoms selfisolate|0 There are recklessignorant people in all generationspolitical parties Plenty of 20 somethings are planning to go out for st Patricks day because woo extra long spring break They need to shut down the bars now Especially since from the numbers it looks like 20 somethings are the perfect carrier monkeys for this thing They dont get the bad symptoms generally so they can spread it around without realizing|1 But Germany is winning Still no lock down|1 Good luck on getting those items if this turns quickly|1 Why does this feel like the start of wwz|1 All of them in a nursing home unfortunately The most vulnerable population|0 What I have done Sorry I cant really understand if its me the problem or else in your comment|0 Its not airborne it doesnt qualify as that Needs large droplets Sneazing coughing etcEdited You know what Im going to give you this argument to an extenthttpswwwstatnewscom20200316coronaviruscanbecomeaerosoldoesntmeandoomedThis article gives a fairly nuanced view of what we are talking about It looks like under rare conditions it can be an aerosol but its limited and still early in studyFor anyone reading along be sure to reach the article linked in full it was very helpful to me|1 This is honestly making my blood boilwe have known for so long now that this would happenwe have been lied to that tests will be ready and everyone will get them week to week now This shit is insane the only way I can see hwy they are doing THIS bad is like people are theorizing they just dont want testing to be done because the actual numbers will show how massively they fucked up|0 Too bad public pressure doesnt work in the USA anymore|0 limits are for the number of person who can enter at the same time Here in Florence we enter in group of 46 and I can tell you we were surprised because I was afraid to find empty shelves but actually everything was in order and all shelves were fullThe panic happened the day after the first strick measures and a lot of people stormed supermarket for no reasons No reasons because it has been cleared hundred of times that this is not war time when food was rationedSo since its better maintain distance from everybody at least 1 meter supermarkets let only 46 people at time Of course if yuou have a bigger place you can see 1015 person at timeStrict measures are the only approach in this case Quarantine for 1520 days permission to go to make groceries or other needs drug store walk the dog smoke shop and some other you cant visit your parents or friends at all Its scary watching other people in america still having crowed gatherings|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Hang in there and try to stay positive Browse joke or funny story subreddits and dont focus too much on covid19 subs Get better|1 Pathetic Just pathetic|0 Yeah that sounds way worse lol|1 As terrible as the virus is even if 100 million get sick and 1 million die the economic hardships will be far worse Were skipping right over a recession into a depression|0 Great suggestionMight I add dont forget your TPS ReportDidnt you get the memo|1 Theres keeping a watchful and concerned eye on thingsThen there tin foil hat the sky is falling full on lunacy Lunacy isnt just stupid itll kill more people if it does go to shitIm concerned and keeping a close eye in things With only 810 cases we are one to two months away from oh shit its here it a big way So for now Im all for sensible reasonable panic free concern|0 I saw that a 23 year old in America had to be intubated today he too had no preexisting conditions The fact is that this disease can be erratic in the danger it presents for those we might generally consider lowrisk groups There is no guarantee that you will be totally safeTaking that into account when dealing with the possibility that a disease can kill you the goal really should be not to get infected if at all possible Im 20 years old and im moving out to my rural hometown this week and I intend to bunker down for the foreseeable future Perhaps I am being too cautious but I would rather be mocked for so called hysteria than drowning in air in an ICU bed|0 I would love for you to explain how this is at all related|1 And everyone wants to blame China call China shady all that shit Cant trust the gov|0 So do they have everything under control or is this just them not caring|0 Im going to subscribe to this conspiracy theory Let me get some popcorn|0 Thats why you do a self quarantine Tell her to stay in a room with a bathroom adjacent Do routine checks on her but do not enter the room When needed fully protect yourself dont forget the eyes leave supplies near her but far enough away you cant accidentally be coughedsneezed on It isnt hard|1 Missed opportunity to offer 42069|1 they COULD would they really want to expose how much they know about everyones locations though probably not|0 ive been running rosetta the past 3 days on my two rigs thanks for pointing me towards foldinghome my 2080ti will be happy to join the race|1 Lots of people became quiet around me now Some of them dont want to talk because of their ego They probably think im gonna say the i told you so thingies One thing is for sure this kind of attitude is a NO WIN for everyone Be humble|1 Yeah the data is basically catching up with the situation on the ground and a lot of that data is also going to miss those who just stayed home and eventually got over it|1 THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT COMPANIES VERY VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE WHETHER ITS HELP IN GETTING BETTER OR THERAPEUTICx200Bwhat|1 Well this sucks Im a UWMadison student I live in the International Learning Community dorm right now and it seems like a majority of our exchange students are Chinese Most of my neighbors are from China and something has definitely been going around since we got back from winter break I caught it but it turned out to just be a cold As far as corona goes though I kinda had a feeling this was coming|1 If thats the case then it most certainly isnt under control in any way shape or form|1 It still worked though What do you propose lol|1 My mother gets a disciplinary every single time shes off sick because she had to take a few months off last year due to depression and my grandparents dyingIts outrageous From the point of view of a business owner I understand not wanting absent staff but|0 Exactly and then theres the people who are digging their head into the ground saying its just a bad flu bro and that everyone on this sub is just a whole bunch of doomers that want the virus to spread We arent we are just preparing ourselves for the inevitable ahead of everyone else|0 Theres a reason why they have had only 1 fatality who btw also had dengue fever|0 I agree with that Ever since 2012 world events have been strange|1 Do some research although I must admit anything con is quickly disappearing these days Ted Talk 2010 in Long Beach 4 mins in First we got population The world today has 68 billion people Thats headed up to about 9 billion Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines health care reproductive health services we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent He wants fewer people in the world Not philanthropic Read quickly because this will be downvoted out of view by the end of the day check back to see|1 He should just resign Go back to his reality show|0 They should let them off the ship hopefully the olympics gets cancelled and then we can all laugh at the tears of angry weebs who have their volunteering spots cancelled|0 Im Anti climate change but that guys not really a denier rather hes saying its bad but not too bad|0 Yeah I find the desperation to be a new level of grim|0 Cool looking backpack sprayer|1 Perspective 2500 people died in Hubei a province of China with 58 million people|0 School says no work says no Homelessness and destitution say yes|0 Man hell no North Italy has like 92 of the total fatalities even with the current systems in place Lombardy is running out of ICU spaces and the Bergamo doctors have been posting on the web about how hard things already are Brusselstimes had an article about italian anaethetists who had to perform triage protocols More people coming North even more dead people|0 Trump never takes responsibility Hes setting Pence up for the fallCouldnt happen to a nicer guy|1 I am sorry I forgotten UK is technically not EU anymore|0 Just wait till you see what happens in countries that actually dont have their shit together if you think Germany is bad|0 Is there a good source for the 40 to 70 estimate I need to convince my family that we cant just ignore this|1 death rate is lower or infection rate is lower|0 Wow Hopefully a corporation figures out how to make money off of the tax payer so we can use this here in the united states|1 True story a couple of hurricane seasons ago I stocked up a bit even though we werent directly on the coast because it was clear we were going to get hit Husband moderately made fun of me again we were inland I charged up all our devices and battery packs Needless to say he was eating crow when we lost power for several days and ended up watching movies on my laptop by candlelight while eating granola bars|1 True I would never want to be the guy to decide on such a thing but if you go all in to quickly and fail you will be preparing for the second wave BBQ a rat on an Aldi cart hopingbto find that last packet of silver rizla amongst some ruins|0 Thats pretty sad because this thing is just getting startedprayers to all healthcare workers around the world the real heroes politicians are just dropping the ball on how we actually have to battle this|1 Good steps Still I cant help being sour Im a contractor at Apple and my company is refusing to give us anything until Apple tells us how they will support us since were not allowed to work from home I know this isnt directly Apples fault the company I technically work for should be doing better but in an industry that once didnt bother texting contractors about an active shooter on campus its hard not to feel like theyre not just waiting for us to keel over because who gives a damn One of my colleagues put it best It feels humiliating But hey I guess we cant break our NDAs if we cant breathe right|1 I know you meant it as a joke but it is truly the only positive part of this pandemic there will be change much needed change|1 Yes this is valid But taking some plant ingredients like ginger or things common in tea has much less risk than you are describing Camomile has an impact on the human body for example Camomile tea is not extremely dangerous It really depends on what you are taking Regular medicine can also have severe side effects and has health risks You need to be careful and educated on anything you take|1 I agree with you Why are you yelling at me|1 Denial People like to drink when subconsciously worried yet in denial so get booze and watch Contagion together Next day will be different|0 I know as far as Pizza HutTaco Bellkfc goes their owner said the workers will be paid if stores close due to covid I hope its up to corporate if we get paid still because of franchise owner is cheap|1 Sorry to be so wordy looks like when you tap on these links it takes you to the reddit page and then you have to tap on the actual link again if that makes sense We all have to watch our sources these days too|1 I guess you have to pick a number large enough that things are averaging out smoothly and small enough that you have something interesting to see Some countries havent reached 2626 cases yet I tend to hide all countries and then add in the UK France Germany Italy and Spain|1 Oh man check out Times Square ghost town Creepy|0 Yes some people have been harassed Someone was wearing a mask theyd had for pollen allergies and got yelled at on the streetHarassment isnt going to help anyone Yet we seem to default to that very easily when scared facts and reasons be damned Some people have very poor emotional control|0 God bless America|1 Tokyo Olmypics is brought to by the CoronaVirus and the good folks at Winne the flu|1 The problem is they dont have enough tests we are screwed|0 It seems pretty likely to me because people went back to work after the holidays as of yesterday|1 Always interesting to me how seldom people are willing to fight on comments like this but I continue to see online accounts spouting nationalist propoganda|1 Right now 7 isnkind of best case scenario death rates Thats assuming you manage it well and have plentiful resources Were seeing it go 10x higher when shtf All the more reason to take dramatic steps to flatten the curve|1 I understand completely I was just giving an example of both drugs being used|1 A good start would be getting the whole nation on board so we dont end up with 40 of the population refusing to take it seriously until theyre in the ICU|0 I noticed that too Its annoying they didnt clarify such an important detail|0 While people with underlying health issues and the elderly do have a higher mortality rate this disease is killing all ages To be clear if youre young and healthy it looks like right now in these early days CFR is around 15 but this disease is showing signs of being biphasicEven at 15 if 40 million youngmiddle aged healthy people in the US contract it which seems likely by end of Mayearly June 2020 Thats 600k people dead It isnt overreacting to look at those middle of the road perfectly feasible numbers and know thats a shit show waiting to happen|0 Could this also mean that the virus is getting weaker|0 State already said they will buy back all liquor from bars that they sold to them in anticipation of StPaddys day crowds and theyre waiving the waiting period for bar staff that will be out of a job to apply for immediate unemployment instead I live in Cleveland and watched whole speechman has my respect even though ideologically were totally different|1 Cant tell if that was sarcasm lolin the senate hearing yesterday morning the senators grilled the health heads that the pledged 1 million test kits ended up only being 70000|0 This is a photo of a Dutch supermarket and there is a confirmed corona patient about 8km 5 miles from this supermarket The foto is about the sample bowl of nuts people touch and eat|0 Yeah but I dont put my penis in everybody I ride the train with|1 Well maybe some of those instagram stars will get some sense trending America nevers stops surprising me|1 Oh only gays can get HIV Youre hella smart dude|1 Stupid political opinionsPlease tell us what the smart political opinions are|0 well you need to correlate the cases to the population500 on denmark equals to over 6000 on italyinfections per 100000 so not that great|0 Haha That could also work for providing negativity instead of positivity or general complacencyLimit your information intakeSpend time working on other thingsDo nice things for othersAll these can help a little with some positivity|1 Closing or not closing schoolsTHAT is the questionthere are pros cons but just in case if symptoms appear in the community better close down disinfect In SP a 4yearold whose parents tested positive with coronavirus was suggested to go on to school by health authorities bcz she didnt show symptoms Fortunately her parents were sensible enough not to Source httpswwwelmundoespapelhistorias202003045e5fa34b21efa0707a8b45a9htmlhttpswwwelmundoespapelhistorias202003045e5fa34b21efa0707a8b45a9html|1 No no guys its one of the classic blunders like starting a land war in Asia or trying to confirm how many cases we have when death is on the line|0 Seriously this place is just full of people having panic attacks and assuming this is going to actually kill 250 million people What IS scary is how infectious this has shown to ne coupled with the lack of actual repeatable data across the glove In fact the lack of testing mixed with the mild cases essentially mimicking the common cold and flu and general malaise it is really hard to know exactly how many actually have this It is possible the numbers that are being presented by this are skewed as wellI have been following this religiously for months and we still know about as much about it as we did when it was starting in wuhan People have been saying it since december but it really is a matter of wait and see over the next 3 weeks before we know anything substantive about how this will effect the entire world Glimpses in italy and wuhan are not neccessarily indicative of the rest of the globe and steps like universities and schools shitting down and sporting events and large gatherings either canceled or barred from public spectators are going to go a long way to help mitigate itWe dont need to spread doom porn about something already as serious as this is|0 Thanks Ive got Glen20|1 Its whining not moaning you telling me im moaning make me feel horny againJoke aside It seems youre foreigner living in Saigon let me tell you a simple fun fact regarding this country You remember that whatever its name is cruise that got loose in Cambodia we recently got one cruise approaching us the same way and we welcome it on our shore at Ca Mau the same way those Cambodians did in their god damn country No testing cuz we have no testkit at all only temperature checking no mask too|0 BOGGLES MY MINDYou cant report a number if you dont test for it|0 Imagine hating Bernie when hes the biggest Saint weve had running in decades Youre a simp|0 We have a party at our work About 120 of us Oh well|1 Sorry editing now|0 Thank you It just makes sense that the spread of an airborne disease would be slowed down by the population wearing even homemade less than ideal masks I read that the virus can stay in the air for up to 30 minutes That would imply that I could catch it by walking down the street after someone that is not even within eyesight has passed by on the same sidewalk|1 Also not wrong|1 The odds that it disappears in warm weather is practically null Its already circulating in warm weather climates Warm weather may very well cut down on transmission as it does the flu but the flu still circulates near the equator and during summer months The transmission of COVID19 during summer months could be substantially reduced and yet still be as contagious as the seasonal flu in winter|0 It would be awesome if someone would do a realtime data view using the Plague Inc statistics screen Or it would be scary as shit|0 This isnt how the economy works To get the strawberries from the farm to your table you need hundreds of workers to harvest sort package them Then you need truck drivers to distribute them to all areas of the country or world if exporting those fruits to other markets and vendorsmarkets to sell those fruits at If the market isnt doing well selling fruit then the market cant pay for the fruit If the farm growing fruit is making less money they cant necessarily pay workers also the workers and truck drivers themselves wont want to work if theres a pandemic At the end of the day something has to give Either you force workers to work against their will for freehalf pay or you just let the fruit sit there and rot And even if you deliver it to markets consumers might not have enough money to buy fruit and might just focus on basics like bread or meat And then all those people worked and it was for nothing and the market will be like hey this fruit isnt selling lets stop buying it from the farmer and then youre toast anyways|1 Ive said it more than once now the US health care system is a risk to National Security|1 USA has far less bedsICU units per capita than Italy I dont remember the numbers but its significant Geographically it wont matter Cities suburbs are going to be absolutely fucked Rural areas more so|0 Even if you survive the virus itself you may have permanent lung damage|0 Its sad that we praise these companies for what should be the normal and right thing to do|1 Except it isntA decisive public health response that ensures the wide availability of free testing the elimination of all cost barriers to preventive care and treatment for COVID19 the development of a vaccine and the full deployment and operation of necessary supplies personnel and facilities A decisive economic response that starts with emergency paid leave for all those affected by the outbreak and gives all necessary help to workers families and small businesses that are hit hard by this crisis Make no mistake this will require an immediate set of ambitious and progressive economic measures and further decisive action to address the larger macroeconomic shock from this outbreak|1 If it helps theres evidence so far that children are less at risk I also feel like I have a big weight on me to protect my household but also feel hopeless as I no longer have a paycheck and it is my partner who has had to put money into our prepping supplies I am so thankful he has I dont think we have enough about 2 weeks but he just wont allow himself to believe well even need to dip into any of our stuff at all I know its hard for him hes at risk and I dont blame him for assuming the best case scenario Good luck to you and your family I hope you all stay safe and virusfree|1 Hes hated by the left because hes a dictator who is intervening in elections throughout the world|0 Way to early to establish a Accurate RO especially with limited testing in US I would think|0 You are essentially crear g a little monopoly You raid your local supply and then can set the prize at whatever Its illegal|0 Thats interesting The CDC has chloroquine on their malaria prophylaxistreatment guideline I had no idea it wasnt available in the US|1 Also there have been dozens of stories of younger people in their 2040s who are otherwise healthy succumbing to the virus Just this morning Iran announced that a professional soccer player in her 20s died from it Sooooo yeah its just plain inaccurate anyway|1 Meanings of words can change over time were not in a cold war era anymore So everyone is using it incorrectly it actually means the original meaning is no longer valid of course its good to know the origin|1 Have you heard the halts and losses in wall street that aint recovering overnight Countries are in quarentine and not producing tourism is been paralyzed international commerce has been disrupted completely add the virus paranoia and I believe you got more than enough to be thinking on something like 1929|0 This is the main thing that matters Its not really propaganda insofar as its linking to primary sources The commentary might be though|1 Holy shit this is getting too real|0 Thankfully theres no community spreading yet as far as were aware|1 And this is why we shouldnt be testing widely at this point Tests are not reliable enough at this stage and will produce high numbers of false positives and false negatives We know from the WHO fact finding mission that this disease is spread primarily through close contacts its not this scarilycontagious supervirus that infects every person a sick person looks at Washington state is using contact tracing to identify likely cases instead of spray and pray Im not following California news as closely but I would assume their approach is the same|1 You dont find what you dont test for This is a great way for the US to keep the number of cases low and to kick that economy can down the road a bit more|1 I dont trust any buildings constructed by the Chinese They built brand new neighborhoods just a couple years ago and they are ghost towns Falling apart made from improper material with improper methods This is why we have so many videos coming out of China where people are minding their own business walking down the street before getting crushed by a chunk of a building that fell off|0 You know damn well you wont listen to any actual answer so whats the point|0 I mean everythings relative right Yes the whole situation is fucked but at least some landlords are not going to threaten to evict a resident because their job has been put on hold indefintely due to a global pandemic|1 All is well is the message from the government Most people cant read past the clickbait titles and thats the message from the administration at the momenthttpsmobiletwittercomMikePencestatus1236490272948846592This tweet was from yesterday This guy is in charge of the Coronavirus taskforce|1 they took amazingly huge actionslol cleaning up their own mess is the bare minimum and they took deliberate measures which exacerbated the problem and led to pandemic just as they did in 2003 the CCP are fucking global murderers at this point|0 All of them The virus is slowing moving to the south and we have crappy healthcare compared to the wealthier north|0 I wish we could but the country is operating at the largest deficit AND largest debt ever seen in all of history We just dont have the money to give out 300 billion a month|0 To be fair the president is telling them they have nothing to worry about and that its all a hoax|1 A lot of people dont understand the scale of this outbreak I dont think anyone both layperson and experts have a full grasp of the effects of this pandemic For those who have not worked in a hospital the idea that a microscopic organism can kill you is foreign Been listening and reading news like the CDC major newspapers etc and listening to friends in healthcare who are on the front lines I say this as someone who did go out barhopping the other night I feel really guilty about that It was not a smart decision But what I can do is to correct my behavior read up on trusted website for taking precautions and monitor myself Not going into work this week either|0 Buckle up get your porn books and games ready and try to enjoy the ride there isnt much you can do besides isolation|1 Or realise that soap and water works even better than sanitizers|1 I too would like to know the answer to this question I stocked my medicine cabinet with DayQuil and NyQuil at the suggestion of a doctor however both contain cough suppressants If the main complication of this virus is pneumonia would a cough suppressant be ill advised Should I purchase an expectorant instead|0 Not at all You can use truth and facts in a manipulative way to further your own goal Propaganda is advertising PR manipulation of statistics manipulation of narrative The biased way to state a truth can often be propaganda Propaganda isnt exclusively liesNothing I said about China or the US is strictly true either Its a matter of interpretation Maybe that interpretation is the correct one maybe not but propaganda thrives on that Also how do I sound propaganda That makes no sense|0 There is a stickied post at the top of this sub with a bunch of studies linked|1 If theres nothing to report then there would be absolutely no reason for a delay like this AlsoIm aware of two Toronto cases that Id like to assume will be reported today|1 San Junipero is a great one|1 He totally is I still admire what hes doing though outside of this idiocy|1 I wish I could give you gold This was the best thing I have read in weeks lol|1 Just say u have all the symptoms Up to them if they want to risk it and call the bluff or not|0 Your post may incite political discussions This is not a political subreddit please try and avoid political discussions Thank you|0 what is the baseline fatality rate for any hospitalization|0 As a southerner islander to be precise we are stubborn and look stupid for thatNow we understood is some serious shitWe hope that this is the case because the only other option left is martial lawAnd by the Gods martial law in Italy would put China to shame|0 3 ambulances also there but I didnt want to pull closer to get better pictures|1 US here I just got sent by my primary care and state department to an ER for Coronavirus screening for very mild symptoms as I have just started showing This is about a week after my coworker comes back from LAX The Coronavirus incubation period is 2 weeks|1 Thats a great thats not mentioned they should be figuring out how to distribute those another way then but thanks for the knowledge|1 Yes but I keep trying because if its a social media discussion others can see it and maybe hear what youre saying even if the person youre talking to does not|1 Have a little compassion People are scared This is a scary disease And until it stops spreading people are going to continue to be scared|0 I hope so Everything should be keep the lights on only|1 I dont think most of us could do that unless we were all survivalists However avoiding all nonessential travel could make a big impact No concerts No movies Etc|0 Pathetic They alluded to this a few days ago that it would happen soonTheyve already given up on eradicating this virus and yet their infection rate in terms of infected compared to total population is much lower than many other countriesAbsolutely pathetic|0 My mistakeaddOnly for the elderly people with other diseases or immune system deficienciesThe disease basically depends on selfhealingFor people with poor immune systems medical treatment can provide specific helpAnd people with normal immune systems may infect older people at home|1 Products from china that will be a threat to the nation security|0 Thats the best news Ive heard in a whileThen youll need to explain that comment|1 Smart|1 Wow sooooooo generous Quick lets have them knighted for saving humanity |1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 how nice of him to be helping us create more tests|1 Yeah All the schools in SK are closed and I have nothing else to do but sleep|1 Please read the times interview with Bruce Alyward and tell me how any western nation is handling it better httpscnnytimescomhealth20200305coronaviruschinaaylwarddual|1 Hopefully the families of the deceased sue this adult care center and the federal government for abandoning these men and woman to a death sentence|0 Community spread of Covid 19 is terrifying|0 I also have the app and its hard to read tablesLike that I guess it also depends on the size of your screen|0 Not from the fridge but the cooler jk|1 It would be a complete collapse not a bumpy economy|0 Trudeau I give a C The borders were closed late US border stays openWhere are our masks and other essential equipment for our medical workers I want the Industry minister to take over some factories and repurpose them for these kind of productions Do it in the Eastern provinces Theyve been low on work for decades There was an article today that said all 40k of the emergency medical workers in China who were sent to help Wuhan were fully equipped and 0 got infected It shouldve been started months ago here Doctors and nurses are gonna die from their inaction Its not acceptable at all This really is war Jump to itCant comment on Ford as Im not living itBegrudgingly give that scum Kenny a B He made the call to let people go home not only to take care of themselves but also their loved ones I hate the man but he might be doing the best of the Premiers Maybe Quebec is better|1 What youve got to understand is the spread pattern AND time So one thing is that this virus seems to have an incubation of up to MORE than two weeks which is a REALLY long time for similar viruses That means that youre contagious for that entire time and dont even know it If sizzlebeast has the right numbers 1 person infects 3 and those 3 each infect 3 more and by the time weve gotten to about the 4th round of infections the first person is JUST starting to show symptoms It blooms out from there at an explosive rate|0 I wonder whenCompanies will start adding a premium pay hike to newhiresemployees who can prove theyve recuperated from covid19 and now test negative|0 Im so sorry This isnt selfish youre going through a complete loss of things you were looking forward to and your normal way of living and it sucksIts okay to cry Its okay to mourn what youve lost But there is an end in sight We dont know exact dates but in a few more months things will settle down and even if things arent completely back to normal there will be some good things you can look forward to then|1 I suspect the answer to what are you doing out if you have symptoms is some mix of not having food in and not being able to get a delivery slot and have gone out for work because they want to get paidWhich is sucky position to be in but not really their fault either|1 An empty gesture Theyre totally gonna throttle me back to dialup after I hit my cap like usual|1 Do keep in mind we are testing so little and narrow clear reasons However As cases get to 3050k then the probably real level 5 wont fucking matter compared to beds|1 And heres the original source that MSN is just kind of reposting from Cincinnaticomhttpswwwcincinnaticomstorynews20200314coronaviruswhyohioleadingusresponse5040630002|1 Federal employees will be given paid administrative leave if they cant work from home|0 Interesting So the mask shortage is due to Chinese people sending masks abroad|1 What are the ages of the people dying I know the 2 who have died in The uk have been 70 but on the whole what are we looking at here Will it kill seemingly healthy people Or is it those who are unwellunhealthy already that are at risk|0 If they are using Taq as the polymerase enzyme after the 35th cycle it starts to die I dont know what amplification efficiency these tests have but I think CDC and European diagnostics collaboration that guides European labs say the assay is sensitive to detect 3 RNA molecules So the issue should be before the PCR itselfPCR inhibitors are everywhere but supposedly QIAGEN columns take care of them|1 Thanks|1 What sector is your business if you dont mind me asking I run my own business too and would be screwed if I lose it all now|0 Minnesotan here I feel like Ive lost all credibility with everyone in my life|1 Actually testing people would increase confidence Everyone knows that the US is completely failing at any response beyond prayingtrumppence and gang dont instill any type of confidence|1 Well I work in a place with lots of guest and close interaction with them although I believe mostly theyre form Beijing Im not worried about catching it now I guess Im worried I already have it A few staff here saying they sore throats now Guess well find out soon Stay safe bro|1 Agree with mostly what you say apart from the implication it cant be containedThere are good examples of how it can be contained and WHO have been shouting about them for a month|1 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiFederalInsuranceContributionsActtaxTheFederal Insurance Contributions ActFICAfak is aUnited Statesfederalpayrollor employment contribution directed towards both employees and employers to fundSocial SecurityandMedicare1federal programs that provide benefits for retirees people with disabilities and children of deceased workersHence why you have one line for FICA social security and one for FICAMED MedicareSource besides wikipedia my BBA in accounting 25 years of accounting experience and passing the CPA examEdit to add OASDI is the name you use if you dont want to say FICA and FICAMED|1 That would be correct Symptoms dont show for around 11 days So he likely had it before hand|1 I dont see it Theyre just spraying something no|0 I presume that they started ordering additional ventilators weeks ago right Only the most incompetent would wait to act until the virus is already at their shores|0 Its good this was shared my sisinlaw is a nurse and I gave her a headsup so they can at least give it some forethought|1 It was a super novel virus at the time yet they still have the audacity to say there is no evidence it would spread between people even if it was true id still play much closer attention to the virus than just forget about it|1 Once this pandemic is over hell die in some mysterious conditions after this announcement if no revolt happens soon full force he basically signed off to be suicided knowingly in hopes that enough people join him to apply real pressure to change political climates in China|0 Tbh until we start shutting down borders and postponing public events this shit is just to be expected|0 Seems like that was it then|1 Yeah it was done on purpose so it becomes viral And it did And many people got the message to not touch their faces |1 Early on this flu kills more angle was used by Chinese media last week to calm people down good thing they are not repeating this notion anymore because how dire the situation has become inside ChinaThe problem now is that I see it being used elsewhere as an excuse not to do anything|0 Im not a GOT fanboy but he was always my fave character |1 He was never confirmed sick though right|1 Of course The idea is not to figure out whos got the disease and who doesnt for statistical purposes Thats fun for Redditors to know but useless for the purpose Most affected will only have mild symptoms so it doesnt matter to them which disease they have they just have go through it and contain themselves You want to test those whose testing matters including staff|0 Great thanks for the debunk I am glad for him|1 I work with a hospital not in Florida and they really dont have enough tests to test everyone that askstheyre also conserving face masks due to shortages They are enacting strict policies to prevent the spread of the virus but testing everyone just isnt possible Its cool that Pence is saying that to quell fears but without giving hospitals the resources they need it doesnt mean much|0 Coronavirus is not milder than the flu Its both more lethal and more contagious than the flu|0 Thats it I get so pissed off at people who are bad sick at the theme parks normally even before coronavirus But one of the main problems is the cancellation policies are not the most flexible I think its almost a week out where you do not get a refund so it forces people to go because of all the they spent and cant get backIf you are outside the cancellation window then by all means cancel and reschedule|0 Sigh In a few weeks youll learn the obvious a respirator without a doctor will do you more good than a doctor without a respirator|1 Please see the abstract below at this time the full article is available via the NEJM website without the need for s subscriptionFebruary 28 2020DOI 101056NEJMoa2002032ABSTRACTBACKGROUNDSince December 2019 when coronavirus disease 2019 Covid19 emerged in Wuhan city and rapidly spread throughout China data have been needed on the clinical characteristics of the affected patientsMETHODSWe extracted data regarding 1099 patients with laboratoryconfirmed Covid19 from 552 hospitals in 30 provinces autonomous regions and municipalities in China through January 29 2020 The primary composite end point was admission to an intensive care unit ICU the use of mechanical ventilation or deathRESULTSThe median age of the patients was 47 years 419 of the patients were female The primary composite end point occurred in 67 patients 61 including 50 who were admitted to the ICU 23 who underwent invasive mechanical ventilation and 14 who died Only 19 of the patients had a history of direct contact with wildlife Among nonresidents of Wuhan 723 had contact with residents of Wuhan including 313 who had visited the city The most common symptoms were fever 438 on admission and 887 during hospitalization and cough 678 Diarrhea was uncommon 38 The median incubation period was 4 days interquartile range 2 to 7 On admission groundglass opacity was the most common radiologic finding on chest computed tomography CT 564 No radiographic or CT abnormality was found in 157 of 877 patients 179 with nonsevere disease and in 5 of 173 patients 29 with severe disease Lymphocytopenia was present in 832 of the patients on admissionCONCLUSIONSDuring the first 2 months of the current outbreak Covid19 spread rapidly throughout China and caused varying degrees of illness Patients often presented without fever and many did not have abnormal radiologic findings Funded by the National Health Commission of China and others|0 Yes but the poll didnt ask their estimates based on that ifOne way or another they kind of have to base it on that if The bounceback is predicated on China bouncing backYoure right that that gets away from what I originally said though Basically I expect any official or even just respectable Chinese source to say that Chinas economy is going to do fantastic rain or shine There are a number of ways they can use to do it but theyll do itIf this isnt contained and quarantines spread and shutdowns continue economists elsewhere will start working under the new conditional Economists in China may adjust downward ever so slightly to say a mere 3 or 4 percent But whatever happens they wont ever predict a 0 or negative GDP for continuing quarters Thats what a recession is|1 This is not happening in my city either Then again Arizonas public education is terrible so Im not surprised|0 This This is the only valid use along with using a mask during hayfever season it does help and using a mask when the air quality is terrible|0 I also think that the healthy gym trainer that died had Covid19 and they are lying to us|0 Winnie the flu|0 They are different rCoronavirusSupport is to consolidate all the good news rCOVID19Support is for people to help each other process this horrible time in a safe and nonjudgmental environment Its great that this sub exists for people to let out their anxiety and find emotional help I already provided a link on the CoronavirusSupport sub|1 Yeah there is also likely a large number of people who have recovered from it Probably unaware they even had it|1 Welcome to any coronavirus sub on Reddit For an even more idiotic echochamber go see rcoronavirus or rchinaflu|0 well its more or less unchecked in the western world|1 Yeah I was texting with a nurse friend in northern California who leans heavily on the just like the flu side of things she said this i get hella info all the time on coronavirus since my hospital and UCSF parnassus are some of the first line hospitals in the bay area for suspected cases and my unit in particular will be handling suspected coronavirus cases my personal opinion is that people are overreactingIts weird reading all the concerning stuff on the sub and then having friends who are medical professionals like meh aint no thing Im not sure if I should be reassured by people like my friend or worried that theyre not taking it more seriously lol|1 Hear heareveryone stay in your homesOh so just an average day for me lmao|1 Ive known America has been rotting for decades but this looks to be our stepping down off the top of our throne into something else|1 Hopefully coronavirus will eradicate stupidity|0 Ok so its a tested only example with a huge population sample And its showing 1015x mortality rate over the flu And with an R0 greater than the flu that would imply 500000 Americans dead in a yearDo you think that the medical experts in China Italy South Korea England Japan etc are all simultaneously overreacting because of media coverage Is that the most likely occurrence|0 On the bright side once hes diagnosed I bet federal spending on coronavirus research will go waaaaaaay up|1 The threat of a major terrorist attack is now very realWorld Health Organization September 12 2001|0 UK is still in the containment phase Its not working brilliantly but without it Im pretty sure there would be more cases I dont think we need to panic and the loo roll situation is getting ridiculous but just exercise good hand washing and staying home if youre not well Its what we should be doing all the time anyway specially during flu season|0 WTF How does this get downvoted|0 Jesus Christ I feel like thats a bit extreme I think they shouldve just done what China did and shut down major cities and regions the most affected|1 You mean loaned also with an interest rate and the last time the US did it the fed made 150b off the interest with 100 repayment|1 I doubt it will matter in the end|0 Prove it Jim Were gonna give you the CoronaVirus and then want to see if your elixir works on curing you|1 Bartendermanager in Tennessee Most bars are shutting down here Even the ones like the Stumble In where there are literally no windows We are shutting our establishment down tomorrow and I am the lucky one who gets to break the news to my staff Shit Im freaked out Im also stressed that I get to see my son a senior possibly not get a prom or a graduation I know that this is low on the priority pole but I never graduated high school hell none of my siblings did so this was a little important to me Of course I am concerned about bills food and all the other shit we have to worry about It just seems like every time I think Im going in the right fucking direction some fucked catastrophic event has to unfold I could keep going but enough of the pity party We are bad asses that know how to keep our shit together when that asshole yells or snaps their fingers at you for another cocktail or that other piece of shit constantly complaining how their food is taking forever because they walked in to a packed house and only they matter You know the ones We are the fucking service industry We will bounce back We always do Worry Rant ends|0 I dont think it isMy mom dad and brother and the rest of my extended family is in VN My parents are business owners and are heavily involved with the local govt From what theyve told me many not all doctors have been hinting at certain patients to not go see the doctor publicly instead self quarantine and have doctors visit their home to do private checkupsThe main reason is I guess the policy is that doctors have to report suspected cases and of course be quarantinedbusiness shuts down etc I dont agree with it but I suspect there are many more cases out there that are being hushed|0 I was here since like 80 cases or something|1 Thank you|1 Can you actually get insurance with a preexisting condition though Surely with an opophogeal birth defect insurers would be running from me|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The worst part is that even if they have tests available the processing capacity is also lacking Thats a totally different subject that has barely been discussed at least from what I have seen and gathered so far|0 Listen to the people here As you say youre willing to live with being wrong Youre doing what you can to make sure you dont infect anyone For all I know my 3weeks long light cough with one fever break was thisand Ive been all over my area including visiting my elderly mother because it wasnt in my area yet I dont think Ill ever know if I havehad it or not unless I get it bad|0 Yup I agree with you If there another way to get money then it should be OK In my city most staff members of restaurants and pharmacies wear the face mask for their safety There is no issue with wearing a face mask in publicI am surprised with the uncaring attitude of the corporation Safety and health should be more important It doesnt take that long to even apply hand sanitizerProtect yourself from coronavirushttpspraveenpuvacomprotectyourselffromcoronaviruscovid19|1 I was wondering if that 1520 hospitalization rate was real That seemed like an awful lot With the Koreans showing 15 hospitalization it really makes you wonder how many were infected in China Theyve seemingly hospitalized tens of thousands|0 With alcohol or other disinfectants Soak a towel with it and wipe it thick all around remove case etc wipe everthings I do this already 2 times per day with disposable towels and hand disinfectant which contains 70 Isopropyl alcohol 015g Benzalkonium chloride|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Yeah its like fiction is catching up on reality|1 World governments had weeks to prepare while the virus was still mainly in China in the coming months well see if they used that time wisely|1 rent mortgage will be halted in full quarantine services like electric and water will also be too im sure|1 Sounds like a title china would write|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 So unfortunate for COVID19 it has no idea what its in for|0 China reports 45 death rate in Hubei 1 elsewhere and 10 severe cases perfectly in line with other countriess data if your medical resources arent yet overwhelmed its 1 see SK Japan cruise ship etc If they are however death rate approaches 10 depending on how fast you can build hospitals|0 Done so meaning faced shortages|0 Most of the redditors commenting on China have never been there cant speak the language and basically have no idea and are just echochambers for click bait they are seeing in the media The Chinese run propaganda for sure but in this case they sent out a clear message about how dangerous the virus was and what people should do Was it a bit late in Wuhan Yesbut it was the first cluster in the world No one would have been able to react fast enough|0 Masks are effective It protects the healthy and unhealthy Healthy individuals wear it to protect themselves from coughinglikecrazynotwearingmasks individuals It will remind them not to touch their face and sanitize or wash hands straight away For the unhealthy it will help them prevent spread and also prevent them from getting even worsemore sick|1 These are the people the shit ones that I wouldnt mind being thinned out of the population If only the virus had a way of exclusively targeting the shitty ones and sparing the good and decent people Unfortunately it doesnt discriminate|1 WA TacomaSeattle area Pretty much have called everything from the get go Sucks to be right just hoping they can at least slow it down before hospitals crash|1 I dont have anything handy and it varies person to person but I recently read that even mild pneumonia is counted as a mild case The flu without any pneumonia takes a few days to a few weeks to totally get over my gf and parents had the flu for weeks Add pneumonia to it and its not gonna be a few daysBut some people will barely get sick at all too|0 I have been here since late December I am sorry but I think your statement is unfounded Are you able to provide a source showing that Wuhan workers are treating patients without PPE It looks like they are wearing PPE here httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvqJj4iSwzyofeatureemblogoI also do not think the post is calling for the total shutdown of our healthcare system but for healthcare workers to consider their own safety as part of the larger picture Frontline and bedside workers have to hold their administration accountable|1 Yeah man theyre all dead for sure Ccp dont give a fookThat lady in the cube was either claustrophobic or she climbed into a death cubeIndustrial Microwavehttpsiimgurcom5X7GTXMjpg|0 No worries The very wealthy will have the absolute best health care Heck most of them have their own personal doctors|1 Since rCOVID19 is for high quality scientific discussion your submission has been removed but might be a better fit elsewhere High quality nonscientific news submissions should be made at rcoronavirus Questions should be posted to to the daily discussion thread at rcoronavirusDiscussion images videos nonexpert analysis etc should be posted to rchinafluYou may repost here with links to your data sources clearly cited and using the visualisation flair Acceptable data sources are WHO CDC and Johns Hopkins University|1 is busy lying to themselves about it|0 Yeah masks definitely wouldnt have stopped them from breathing in all those airborne droplets full of covid19|1 Yes Less distractions for me Im a software engineer and its easier to solve the problems when its quiet I love the lack of commuting|1 In my opinion I think quarantine and travel bans are a good thing My husband and I were talking about this a couple nights ago I think that keeping people in quarantinetravel ban helps the slowing the movement of the virus I was upset that people are still on those sea cruise ships My husband said that its better that it could infect people on a ship because they can end the infections from spreading further from there I understand this is not the whole position to be taken but it gives us time to learn as much as we can quickly Everyone else will already know how to handle this virus if it spreads in other countries like it did there|1 theyre also having one of their worst flu epidemics|0 In CT most schools have been closed since last Thursday and as of this morning Governor Lamont has closed all schools and I believe as of tonight non essential businesses I feel like some states are doing more than others|1 I would say you need some sleep for sureI can relate I have had a panic disorder and generalized anxiety for years and I was finally starting to feel better and then this hitIm just trying to use this as an opportunity to practice staying calm and reworking my brain so my first reaction to scary situations is not debilitating panicIm sending lots of love and support and I know that you can get through this|1 While yes he should be censoring every name But to me she is basically saying what the gov wants her to say so she should be safe I guessStill OP censor all companies and names dude its also for your own good as in some places it is illegal to show messages without their consent|1 The people in the comments supporting this are sickening|0 stop ure getting cringy|0 Well strangely there has been a great deal of CEO resignations lately|1 Fucking criminal Poor kid|0 That would normally be excellent news but it begs the immediate question how bad is the actual infection rate and how many people actually died from this The numbers from China are highly suspect because of the irrational response the CCP has shown to date There must be a whole lot more going on that the CCP is afraid to be known or they would not have locked down 400 MILLION peopleDont get me wrong Im stoked about any recover news there is those are whole families on their way to normalcy Would be awesome to know how many are actually under observation|0 It has continued to flabbergast me that nurses and unions are not taking this seriously They couldve helped stop this weeks ago if they had started insisting on having the PPE and screening And they are likely to be one of the hardest hit groups|0 Your big concern needs to be if you get it and it goes bad for you Have someone on backup looking after Mom if that happens|0 boomer alert|1 The entire government could have it now as I am sure he was hanging out with other ministersMight be the first government where everyone has to call in sick|0 I suppose that is possible Not too thrilled with either answer we should be better than this|1 Its crazy to see how it rip thru china only to see it alao rip thru your own country in a more spectacular fashion I bet the few people cheering for the destruction of china must be eating crow now|0 Its a far healthier option than smoking tobaccoDude it was literally causing incurable lung disease in teens and worse than that My fiance is a high school teacher they had to expel several kids in the past month for vaping what turned out to be FENTANYL|0 Why did I expect this to be the bang energy ceo|1 Congrats though Thats huge|1 Great So not only do we have a pandemic to suffer through we now after suffer the daily horror of Boris Johnson|0 If this alone doesnt scare you consider some additional contextAccording to the WHO Italy has the 2nd best healthcare system in the worldThe US has the 37thbest just behind Costa Rica Italy also has more hospital beds per capita than the US We live in interesting times as the saying goes|1 We have unemployment compensation for this sort of situation|0 Fuck testing them just ban them entirely|0 Unverified reports go in rChinaflu The strictness of the three subs is like thisrCOVID19 rCoronavirus rChinaflu|1 I check the news for it every day Most of the outlets talking about it still are African news sites China has ordered a lot of it and has the capability to make it I wonder if thats why their numbers are supposedly going down Its apparently a better prophylactic than treatment but is okay at both if early tests are to be believed Of course the cynical part of me wonders if companies would rather tout the benefits of a new expensive drug vs an old one with no patent life left|0 Regular flu kills 61 000 people per year and doesnt make the news cycle2019nCorona has not killed an infant or any child younger than 13 This means that even the most immature immune system of new born babies is able to repel the infectionAll the people who have died have had either coinfections or are elderlyAdditionally the people who are in direct contact with the patients the most nurses doctors are not getting sick This is evidence that basic cleanliness and prevention combined with healthy immune system keeps you safeIf 2019nCorona starts killing babies and healthy children like what influenza can do then we know the infection will be more severe than fluIf it starts killing doctors then we panicAt this exact moment in time all the evidence points to lower mortality than flu higher infection rates than SARS and basic prevention methods workAnd somehow this qualifies as a world wide panic only slightly lower than a zombie outbreakif you dont believe me read the Lancet report for your selfhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620302117fulltexthttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620302117fulltextReply|0 Whats the incentive not to have prudent reserves Surely is does not all go to bonus plans right I mean I am assuming some CEO comp plans are tied to the share price|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 If you see 50 growth on Beijing Shanghai Guangdong Chengdu and Chongqing again tomorrow I dont see how China contains thisIf you see 50 growth in Thailand andor Vietnam its still early bit its looking really bad for Southeast AsiaThe thing about a virus with an R0 2 and a 4 day incubation period is once you know of 20 people that have it theres probably 2000 people that have it It is VERY tough to contain a virus that spreads that fast and has infected that many people alreadyThis is why when you learn about a novel virus you take that shit seriously immediately Because even if you wait for 3 or 4 cases before sounding the alarm there could already be 1000 people infectedAnd when a virus is new you dont really know anything about it We still dont have a solid understanding of the incubation period or the R0 for this virus let alone the mortality or how fast it mutatesTelling everyone to carry on as if this is the flu is ignorantJust because SARS wasnt a huge deal doesnt mean that it couldnt have been a huge deal if things played out slightly differently|0 No problem Thanks for understanding|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Ya hes really fucked up on this response or lack there of I remember thinking to myself what are the chances of a pandemic while hes in office after reading about his dismissal of the pandemic teamand funding cuts to the CDC|0 Exactly And if you look at me youd think oh hes healthy Cause I am But I wont be if I get it So everyone thinks Im being dramaticNot to mention people that are elderly are still people and should be protected|1 What about grocery stores Ive no idea if anyone is panic buying in Austria but Im a butcher and all I can think about is Dont go to gatherings over X size while I watch thousands of people huddle together and bump into eachother in grocery stores|0 A Actually taking it seriously and taking steps to prevent spreadB Why cant I go to my SXSW concert because of the flu We have one every yearC Dont know or dont careUnfortunately B is the largest group and itll probably stay that way until people are personally affected|0 As someone who has nothing to do with Ohio and wasnt aware of the their governor Ive been very impressed with how DeWine has been handling things|1 They wont be saying its just the flu if and when it directly affects them|0 Yeah The first case in my country ireland was diagnosed a few days ago and now I think there are 3 confirmed cases I would really like some news on this|1 He istI like this little slip of German On a serious note I have to say Im seriously disappointed in most Western governments Maybe after this is all over people will reconsider and we will fare better next time Sadly that will be too late for thousands of people|0 Thanks a lot Greta|1 They got voted inOn populist idealsAnd used that to spread their hate by lying about reality and honest people believed their lies Believed their nationalism You believe their lies Youre proud of something you have and had no control over because it gives you a mob mentality of being right because you must be right yeah If someone who says theyre never at fault is in power then what they say must be true right So its OK that youre the same right Just blame other people dont try and improve the world because other people have already ruined it right Just game Just stick myself in a corner and feel edgy by trying to get libtards with your rare knowledge truth You are the vector by which the propaganda feeds weak minds Youre no good American when you support someone who actively works against the countryLook at the current situation the economy was strong from the previous era and kept growing until something changed and everything gop stripped away and worked against came to light The the markets dived every time Trump had opened his mouthBut its someone elses fault right Never you Always themHe Caged Children For Racist Votes|0 He did not know he was infected with Coronavirus ffs why must you twist stupidity into malice|0 Lol this|1 Im 30 and the temperature only goes up to 38 C sometimes Biggest problems are pain in the lungs diarrhea nausea and chills|0 Haha same here except I never smoked because I have asthma|1 Yeah I remember when my mom was dying of cancer they made us all wear masks when we went to see her because she was so fragile We couldnt catch anything from her but it was so we didnt actually spread anything to her|0 Dont forget accounts that are far older than a year that suddenly have activity after being afk for long periods of time ie compromised as well as accounts that have been sold which apparently is a thing but theres not much of it going around compared to other such things Go through the post history of commentators that seem to be against you and see if it seems organic or not i guess If you have the time to do so But please keep in mind that it is not always the case and there is no need to be impolite|0 Hopefully everything works out|1 Good time to have a good business model bad time to have a bad business model Unfortunately reddit needs to work on their state sanctioned social media manipulation|0 As far as I can tell the numbers coming out of the CCP are somewhat realistic The spread is realistic given the reported cases I wouldnt have expected that Its been fun to learnCan you elaborate on that It seems like its spread a lot for only 2k cases but obviously I dont know much|1 If any mask will doA hat like Billy Porters Grammy hat with multiple layers of fabric in front of the face not the beads he has would help stop sneezes and coughs from either inside or outside the sheets of fabric A benefit would be not having material right against ones face getting steamy from exhalation Also the screen could help remind the wearer to not touch their face An issue would be changing out the fabric at the end of the day while avoiding contamination httpspagesixcom20200306billyportermaylaunchhisownfabulousfashionline|1 America is strange people over here in the UK are shitting themselves hand sanitizer is not available in my local shops everyone is talking about precautionary measures for holidays my workplace etc|1 Price gouging during an emergency is illegal in many places Is it illegal in Canada|0 That is not the worst case scenario This virus is simply not capable of ending the world It doesnt kill nearly enough peopleTheres no two ways about it|1 That was beautifully written|1 In the US a company that did this would be sued out of existence Because protecting profits is job 1|1 Self employed you might be screwed You still have to pay self employment tax but generally you cant claim unemployment assistance if its your own company|1 I expected as much Best not to take any chances with the possibility of global lockdown on the horizon doesnt mean we cant expect news during E3 season just not an actual E3|1 WHO saysAsymptomatic infection has been reported but the majority of the relatively rare cases who are asymptomatic on the date of identificationreport went on to develop disease The proportion of truly asymptomatic infections is unclear but appears to be relatively rare and does not appear to be a major driver of transmission|1 This is a nice little infographic Very well put together|1 That is funny but not the way you intendedEdit wake up boomer after you proudly proclaim to be an adult is just the icing on the cake and it is delicious|1 I hope Im wrong But Im going to fucking hate people like you if this blows up and the complacency youre spreading kills|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Or was it guilt|0 I believe my 1 and a half and 3 year old also had ot and then gave it to me Anal tempuratures of 104 for the big one and 105 for the little one Very hard to keep controlled too Lots of coughing Throat was killing me And lots of mucus in my chest 2 weeks later i am still coughing up mucusEdit also had direct contact with someone who flew from and lives in Italy|0 Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson resulted positive to coronavirus Also some football teams in Italy like Juventus Inter and Spal are under observance since Daniele Rugani resulted positive to coronavirus Basically these teams should now be under quarantine and so many of the famous players like Cristiano Ronaldo are too|1 This is a rather brutal decision either way Do they stay and infect more patients while asymptomatic or take care of themselves firstDuring the LA riots a couple of decades back the police just stayed in their station people were on their own Was that the right call Who knows It would not be unreasonable for a health care worker to work as long as they felt absolutely safe and quit otherwise|1 No idea how your air is in the US but probably worse than most of EU You tend to build mega cities as well I heard news of smog in US cities at least in the past |0 because this is reddit and Americans love to be self loathing Though to them america is also the center of the universe|1 I will not mention anything I have done with anyone other than my wife and adult kids I have always pushed for us to have 3 months of necessities on hand and the kids grew up with Ice storms road floods or area tornado damage not being any kind of concern about having what we needed on hand so they all do the same at their houses Now if I told my brother or sister they are 10 and 11 years older than me they would think I am always going overboard I think part of the difference in mindset is that they live in a city and I can shoot deer from my kitchen window|1 Taken from G Suite TOS Information we share We will share personal information with companies organizations or individuals outside of Google when we have user consent or parents consent as applicable By agreeing to the TOS you agree to the terms and sharing of you info If you want to use it you have to agree|1 I mean its not rocket science to move funds around to throw at this crisis|0 Enternal satisfaction Your a spirit or energy when you die Theres no gold fence gold roads houses food etc Thats all materialistic Your second paragraph proves my point Im taking care of the fish Keeping it from dying Your entiry is not doing anything|1 Id add powdered cheddar cheese and TVP sausageham bits Plus gello packets powdered gatorade powdered tealemonade Hydration when sick Also stuff like honey soy sauce pepper crushed red pepper salt|0 Nobody says its a bad move The moronic part here is being naive enough thinking Denmark would ever want to sell it|0 In general Im always sicker in the mornings Maybe from laying all night This morning I felt much worse than yesterday afternoon and evening Im exhausted but am not sleeping well My fever seems to come and go which is weird and my skin has been on fire But then maybe the heat in Cali dried it outHow many days since you got sick|0 It was until they recently banned VPNsEDIT Turns out you still can access them but its not easyhttpswwwtravelchinacheapercomvpnsstillworkchinahttpswwwtravelchinacheapercomvpnsstillworkchina|0 I appreciate the clarification Thank you|1 Theyre definitely going on the assumption that we have thousands of cases already |1 Quick questions close borders to people or goods and cargo too What about other provinces or cities How about layoffs for everyone and just sit them at homeIts easy to say close off everything in a panic but things dont actually work that way No one wants to take personal responsibility and practice social distancing or just washing their handsThis wont get better till we do our part|0 Germs is a general term for unpleasant microorganisms Viruses and bacteriaare types of germs as are certain types of fungi|0 Will the US handle the virus like SK or Iran or somewhere in between I think the most reliable data will be what we see with our own eyes To see what is actually happening with your family friends local hospitals etc|1 Shams should really be more popular outside of NBA circles his story is crazy He is only 25 years old and is arguably the most powerful NBA reporter in the world The only reason its arguable is because his former boss and mentor is the only other comparable NBA reporter|1 Theres actually two different types of coronaviruses in dogs The gastrointestinal one and the respiratory one thats often involved in kennel cough For dogs coronavirus isnt nearly as scary as parvovirus Parvo is often deadly|1 And also block approval of kits New York State has been complaining for over a week that they cant use tests from private labs in their state because the CDC wont approve them Also why we cant use kits from South Korea The CDC is making themselves a bottleneck to prevent testing because they want to be in charge Kind of like how FEMA prevents aid from other sources in natural disasters|1 God wanted him to stay|1 The young are mildly affected while the following die1 Elderly2 Those with preexisting condidtions3 Those that ignore symptoms work hard take anti fever medication then later collapse|0 They need to like yesterday|1 QQQ IMO youre seeing the dead cat bouncy Trumps buy the dip worked Id be surprised if your not earning on shorting UberIve my portfolio set up for a different approach for example secondary industry|0 While I am fascinated by the positive spin she is receiving did you know she was assistant officer responsible for emergency health units in Toronto during the 2002 SARS outbreak Did you know Toronto gave SARS the all clear and the second outbreak occurred Both of these outbreaks happened in the emergency department under her system her jurisdiction and didnt happen anywhere else in Canada Globally 20 per cent of confirmed SARS cases were healthcare workers In Canada healthcare workers made up 43 per cent of SARS casesSource httpswwwgooglecaampswwwtheglobeandmailcomamplifehealthandfitnesshealthtenyearslatersarsstillhauntssurvivorsandhealthcareworkersarticle9363178I posted it before to help illustrate Dr Henry and her feats but the facts really just indicate she helped dropped the ball|1 I have to applaud them for thinking ahead These other countries including America should have done the same|1 The might be a good idea Ive also approved you here if you want to make this into a seperate post|1 Is there a double face palm award|1 I always love how they use official numbers while the CDC refuses to test peopleOf course even the 500k is based on bad information It should be around 750k|1 Ive been having very interesting discussions in my psychology classes at university about how this will continue happening Humans are very empirical creatures just the way we evolved We see a lion we run We see a sexual partner we mate Humans are almost exclusively focused on whats directly in front of them happening right now Were really really bad at logical future planning or acting on things before they happen Its just not how our brains are wired deep down So most will continue to brush it off not care and not take action until its in their very community Until they see it right in front of them Then the panic starts There isnt much hope of human cooperation unless its actively forced upon us its just human nature|0 Your bottom sentence is correct yes but its 17 of the particular cases who get sick enough to require an ICU not 17 of all in general A very large majority of all cases will be mild or asymptomatic The biggest problem though is that that 17 is heavily based off the Chinese data which is a bit skewed to be favorable while the Italian data is more accurate and paints a grimmer picture so the 17 may not be entirely accurate but its close at least If you want to know the number of people who need ICUs look at the 7 death rate in Italy 10 of cases needing ICU may be better than 25 So 17 of 10 brings that number down to about 17 odds of developing ARDS They are making wartime triage decisions of who gets an ICU and who doesnt due to the ICUs being at capacity at all times and their data is mostly geared to test and focus on only the people who have gotten the most seriously illMost of the people who go into ARDS from COVID19 die If roughly 7 are dying then that thats 70 of ARDS cases with 30 of the ARDS cases recovering So 30 of that 17 is going to end up with roughly 034 of the very ill cases suffering very permanent and debilitating lung damage most of whom will be in that 50 age range Most of the people who recover do not go into ARDS but there is still potential for some kind of mild damage The lungs are kind of like the kidneys in that there is a limited capacity to heal from damage and they are able to retool themselves to a certain extent but damage mounts over time Most types of lung damage are cumulative aka permanent and mounting whether it be from infections pneumonia smoking vaping dust inhalation pollution or chemical exposure You often wont notice that you have any lung damage unless it gets quite severe|0 Im so sorry that Bernie isnt winning You Americans really screwed up on that one|0 Throwing out props to support staff like housekeepers and maintenance folks as well|1 Whats important is that you put it back into the economy s|1 Thank you armchair healthcare professional for your brilliant insight|1 Sadly the fireworks ban has clearly not worked everywhere In Wuxi a midtier city I hear fireworks at least 5 times every day on a regular day ie not Spring Festival This new year in my wifes home town we saw loads of banners reiterating the ban but people went fullretard anyway I think its hypocritical to ban fireworks but still allow their manufacture and sale|0 Youre awesome Those who help would have to be covered head to toe in hazmat suits but it is possible Something has got to be done soon Those without medical issues could help out we are all at risk but the preexisting condition people couldnt as their risk is higher of course If they catch it they might not fight it off but people that are healthy have a bigger chance to fight it off|1 Im in Xiamen too So far I feel like its been very mild here in terms of cases Im in the Huli district and more shops seem to be opening up these days In the neighborhood where Im at they also check IDs and I just brought my passport along and they basically said I cant read this Laughed it off and let me through lol|1 well now that you mention it|1 The Netherlands sadly disagree Schools are to stay open|0 Fuck Jeff Fucking Bezos|0 Economic prosperity is greater than the baby boom generationOrEconomic prosperity is exclusively dependant on the baby boom generationSorry Im no good with shorthand|1 Daniele Rugani from Juventus who is a team mate of Cristiano Ronaldo tested positive Could you imagine how crazy the world would go if Cristiano Ronaldo got it|1 Because we have people adhering to evidencebased science and we have politicians letting scientists take the lead Trump and his ignorant cohorts dont believe in science and this profound ignorance has dire consequences|0 Whatever i am tired of hearing about this virus everyday|0 Im from BaselWorking in the SBB trainrail construction We have to go by train to workPeople still sit nearby in the trains and many people coming with train to basel from Italy and vice versaSo not surprising to me But its still no panic people take the situation with humor I wonder when things hit the fan here in Basel city with over 80k people and only a few big supermarkets|0 I think it could work for some people However I would not be confident of my own ability to always use good technique with a mask that I had to sanitize every day and to use strict technique and hand sanitizing procedures when remounting the pads I am a regular guy I dont have my sh together to that degree If you do I guess that mask could work I would find that a gigantic pain in the ass which would realistically mean I would slack and screw it up It would have to be gloomdoom work from home every day and only go out for groceries to make me consider that as a viable option Maybe if I were in Wuhan Id do that|0 As an airline mechanic thats not great|0 Yeah if its in one of 3 countries This is now a PANdemic|1 expresscouk is a news outlet If possible please resubmit with a link to a primary source such as a peerreviewed paper or official press release Rule 2If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 I agree homeopathy is bullshit but I hope youre not referring to yourself as a medical expert Biomed grad haha Id take you seriously if you were a PhD Lose the arrogance maybe|0 Travel bans are rarely recommended If you institute a travel ban you force people underground Instead of flying out of China they travel to Vietnam or elsewhere to get to Canada and they lie to get through This makes it a lot more difficult to contain an outbreak|0 It is bad|0 Idk if they are sourced but there are articles circulating that indicate it may suspend in the air up to 3 hrs Idk what parameters were used ex humidity air temp circulation etc just some food for thought that makes the above comment a little less bindblowing|0 I mean with the immunity hes built he should be fine Same with old motherfuckers who laughed in the face of the bird flu after having survived the Spanish flu in 1918 but even more so because it would be a more closely related strain of virus|1 The headlines wording is much more neutral than what you are claiming it to be certainly not accuse|1 good on you even if it turns out to be a pandemic panic wont help anything i keep reminding myself being alert but relaxed is the best thing we can do keep an eye on it take precautions but dont stress yourself out best of luck to you|1 Hes now president for life president for life And hes great Trump said according to audio of excerpts of Trumps remarks at a closeddoor fundraiser in Florida aired by CNN And look he was able to do that I think its great Maybe well have to give that a shot someday Trump said to cheers and applause from supportershttpswwwreuterscomarticleustrumpchinatrumppraiseschinesepresidentextendingtenureforlifeidUSKCN1GG015|1 While that is sound advice this was based off one of two public photos of Dr Li the other of which was him in a hospital bed This is the only public photo we have over here of him healthy and in that picture he was dressed identically including mask over respirator|1 Is that why people say it will die down in MayJune Wuhan is a steaming oven in summer|0 Agh yes I was overreacting yada yada yada Now here I sit with my masks respirators food hand sanitizer and bleach wipes oh tp too|1 Its great I read in when it came out and then reread it in oct its a Xerox of the kickoff months of this|1 I think it varies I work in a largeish hospital in NY no one is concerned up to now|0 On that note why is it that Chinese girls like white men so muchI see so many white guys with Chinese girlfriends and nearly all the Chinese guys I know dont have a girlfriend The girls Ive asked said white guys are stronger and more attractive Im not sure myself|1 Fuck this thing is targeting our white mages|0 Arent those temperatures only about outside the body Of course they can survive inside the body with 37C because were living organisms with everything they need to survive and reproduce But outside the body without their life support higher temperatures will cause them to die faster At least thats how I interpreted it|0 Could it be the pride thing in Japanese culture That theyd rather kill themselves than being told incompetent|0 Its simple If you get many cases in a specific place you quarantine If its diffuse throughout the country you dont quarantine Since testing is piss poor right now we have no idea where the hotspots are so without this you cant quarantineWithout testing and without the subsequent lockdown enjoy having a uniform nightmare everywhere|0 Awesome thanks for the info guys|1 Sadly we dont even have enough testing kit for people so we are denying people from getting one and now we are literally asking China for these kit|0 Any good household soap will work as they all have the chemicals to breakdown the virus membrane and was it away from your skinJohn Campbell on YouTube has great resources on the virus characteristics and how to wash your hands|1 Totally agree Share this article with themCoronavirus Why You Must Act Nowhttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca FlattenTheCurve|1 I get it yall Im not disagreeing with you I just dont think it warrants cunt|0 Ok good I thought that had been confirmed already Yes though if a USPS worker tested positive and still ran a delivery route then its an inevitability a few will catch it Main thing is that if droplets make it onto a piece of mail it needs to be left alone for at least 6 hours potentially longer for the virus to die on the surface|1 The CFR among hospitalized patients tends to be between 5 and 15 These are estimates from cohort studies which follow a set of patients until the clinical endpoint death or recovery There was a recent metaanalysis that does a decent job This 515 is very standard for hospitalizations for respiratory diseases The hospitalization rate is a different story and is currently unknown I believe the Diamond Princess cases will give us a good cohort since even the asymptomatic and mild cases are tested|1 Reason for accidental death|0 Two points from this research1 a better mouse model for CoV infection using Ly6e knockouts is a great step forward It will help test various different treatments in vivo2 Changing Ly6e expression on your cells without interferon is not a viable avenue More likely would be to administer a soluble modified Ly6e protein or fragment to prevent viral entry andor neutralize viral particlesVery cool stuff I used to work in the same building as the first author|1 Good for them Unfortunately without widespread testing and a maskwearing culture I dont have much hope to see the same happening here in the US But I hope Im somehow wrong|0 The key word youre missing is administration Torontos administrators have the stupidity of captive gerbils Health care administrators are especially braindeadstupid and health care clerical workers dont even have any brain activity because theyre the walking dead Its a source of endless frustration to our health care professionals and is a major reason why so many formerly dedicated and energetic doctors and nurses have given up and are apatheticToronto is buried alive under the shitpile caliphate of brainless administrators and administrative clerks They are choking the life out of our city The only solution I can think of at this point is to exile them all to the South Sandwich Islands|1 I thought acute respiratory distress which seems to be a defining feature for serious cases could lead to low blood oxygen levels Cant this lead to permanent brain damageI guess thats not directly a virus feature more a consequence of the symptoms and a question for a pulmonologist I assume this would be highly dependent on level of care|0 No but doesnt mean the truth should not be told|0 I think the shadow government wasting tax dollars works in the pentagon shaped building|0 So in my conversation with Illycia above the sources suggest that the highest and most effective transmission of the virus is early on in the infection in conjunction with the very first mild symptomsBasically the cough The researchers found very high levels of virus emitted from the throat of patients from the earliest point in their illness when people are generally still going about their daily routines Viral shedding dropped after day 5 in all but two of the patients who had more serious illness The two who developed early signs of pneumonia continued to shed high levels of virus from the throat until about day 10 or 11Paradoxically though the source points out that those who are only mildly sick are likely not still infectious by about 10 days after they start to experience symptomsSo theres a very high rate of transmission early on but a very low level of infection early on too High levels of transmission continue in those who go on to develop more serious conditions and it is far more infectious at that point too Essentially the super spreaders are most likely to be those whove been ill for 5 days and symptoms start to get more extremeEither way asymptomatic transmission seems unlikely due to the low numbers of asymptomatic cases and how we know this virus is sharedhttpswwwstatnewscom20200309peopleshedhighlevelsofcoronavirusstudyfindsbutmostarelikelynotinfectiousafterrecoverybeginshttpswwwstatnewscom20200309peopleshedhighlevelsofcoronavirusstudyfindsbutmostarelikelynotinfectiousafterrecoverybegins|0 Sure so let them sit for a month and douse them in bleach or whatever Point stands you could still harness the human output that remains|1 Proof we dont know who has it because we have no testing plan|0 I dont think were the ones derranged with Trump hereIve used this same comeback 100 times on different subreddits against people who use the TDS insult Trump supporters tend to say the same things over and over|0 Makes me feel at ease knowing how many flights have arrived from China since this began in November DecemberEdit s|1 Right Its unclear if this mortality rate is with or without hospital care|0 I feel like you should always have at least a months worth at home 2 months of you have a house|1 I have a friend who left late December to holiday in Cambodia Rich trust fund baby Loves to go globehopping and have fun Hes partying it up in Cambodia right now and will be for another month Seems to be in good health I just glanced at facebook for the first time in a few months and hes checked in from Angkor WatI have no idea how hes going to get home He might get quarantined on his return depending which way he goes though I doubt theyll be testing him for the kind of bugs hes likely to pick upHes also going to visit Australia on a later leg of his trip depending on how paranoid things have gotten they may refuse him entry as hes a foreign national arriving from SE asiaNone of this had started when he departed|1 People in OTHER countries pay 27 for insulin because it allows the manufacturer to make 16 for every vial instead of 700 plus profit|1 At some point when you have a disease so prevalent in the population that it is everywhere or potentially and no one knows who has it and who doesnt then maybe if the vast majority of people are wearing them you might achieve a small amount of population protection with a disease that has the transmission characteristics this one has|0 Hi everyone Im so glad we get to do this Thank you for having me here were all in this together and I am so glad we can help each other in such an anxietyproducing time As a therapist Im hearing so many different concerns no two people are affected by this in exactly the same way but there are definitely some common themes Im seeing Whatever is on your mind you are welcome here Ask away|1 I was really hoping to hit a cruise out of ft Lauderdale but Im def not doing thag anymore|1 Im sure anyone who can make them is Demand is through the roof But this is specialty equipment that needs more machinery Need to identify the OEMs of the equipment and hire them to get into overdrive|1 Well it looks like there hasnt been a wave of new COVID19 diagnoses in the Chicago area Im cautiously optimistic|1 Okay I scanned the actual supplementary material and the data analysis techniquesOnly 1 question and I am deadly serious are these people assuming the China and Wuhan authorities were telling the truth and there were only 41 cases or so in Wuhan around January 1 and used that to calculate the R0Sure there are the use of other provinces and arrival times and some early case reportsunless they got it from the Chinese it is the early public onesThe issue is what if Wuhan had a bunch more cases and it started around Novembermy feel is that is the actual general feel for the origin theory in the location X in the Wuhan Wet Market it would mean you dont need to double as much and this R0 is way too high because you are using official Chinese statistics when the Chinese were not even tracking it well The shutdown around January 23 means the analysis of early R0 ends there with a delayed incubation period of the distribution and value they choosethat one seems reasonable|1 Any day less needed in a hospital is beyond vital|1 And my axe|0 Theyre nonessential in one sense but theyre potential superspreaders of the diseaseThats how Korea got so bad The average contagion rate of C19 is 1 per 22 meaning one person infects 22 persons In SK they figured out 1 woman infected 66 people Thats why Daegu SK has such a big problem now|0 What do you mean no excuse WED MAKE A FEW BUCKS LESS|0 theyre actively inviting it in no isnt that official policy now|1 Hopefully edible or tincture because smoking anything increases your mortality rate good luck|1 Did he have underlying health conditions I couldnt find any info about that so Im assuming he was a healthy 34yrold guy I heard it only kills old people w underlying health conditions so Im kinda confused Maybe thats false|0 In ideal conditions Sarscov2s R0 is estimated to be 2 to 25 which is very worrying indeed but would have been much higher if it survived for 3 hours in open air|1 Cannot confirm overall but i have 2 friends at GoogleDublin they are both working from home today|1 You cant look at this globally It has to be per county This virus can be stopped if you weld everyone in their doors Per country the growth rate is 32 per day Until the country shuts everything down Once shut down the countrys growth factor starts declining for 19 days until the growth factor is one Thats the mid point You can double the number of confirmed cases to get an idea of how many there will be Shutting down works But then it makes the country ripe for reinfection when they open the doors|1 Once people believe something no matter the evidence everything will make them hold stronger onto it unless theyre already willing to give it up|1 I am a radiologic Technologist But I am currently working just at starbux I had some health probs AKA chronic persistent vertigo and hearing loss So I took a break from x ray while I was working my own health Mostly because I didnt want a pt to get hurt because of me also for a while I was stuck in bed as I could only work a few hours a day before it was too muchanyway I still have the vertigo just have it under control Yes you have to be a rad tech frist I have an AS degree in rad tech But you can get it with a 2 yr or 4 yr I went the 2 yr for the cheap route but it takes just as long CT modality can be trained on the job or in a school program I am doing the school program Because I am getting back in the swing of things and I dont have a current xray jobalso sbux insurancee is awesome I am pretty much for there for the trans health care I am a trans woman too|1 The best brains already left or were forced out|1 Ive hard symptoms disappear on day five and six for a lot of people and then all that comes back is shortness of breath and dry cough Please update us Im sure your lungs are capable and strong|1 My prediction Stocks will go back up shortly as fed cuts rates and increases quantitative easing This will only last so long until we realize the Fed cant do anything because the only thing their methods do is reduce the cost of capital Rates have been so low that business have already acquired all the capital they need The bottle neck isnt capital its manufacturing andor distribution andor expansion Then the market crash will make us laugh at last week|0 Seems sorta wrong too they basically robbed him and made it legal|0 Can you ELI5 why this doesnt suggest that temperature plays a factor The top right scatter plot looks like it does|1 Arh thanks for that info I just remember the headlines saying 14 days or two weeks So this keeps incubation time inside the previously reported range|1 Im a phlebotomist at a hospital and Im worried Im young and healthy but Ill be going in bio rooms with coronavirus and its already worrying about our supplies People keep stealing our masks so weve had to start hiding them|0 Just gonna leave this herehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOLT7x6mpBq4|0 So basically we arent going to know just how many terribly sick people we need to treat until they turn up at already overflowing hospitalsAnyone else see the flaw in this logicPlease folks stay at home If nothing else do everything you can to reduce the chances of having an accident or getting sick from absolutely anything else|0 umno thank you Its driving me insane that those without compromised immune systems or preexisting conditions are being so lax about this whole thing Not everyones body can fight an infection My sister recently had a heart transplant followed by an open heart surgery and months of heavy medications that basically wipe her immunity clean Having a cold or flu could be devestating She was already quarantined before this I just want people to be mindful of what others may be trying to prevent|0 I really dont know why the US is so far behind Pakistan has been doing this since last week and were sandwiched between China and Iran Were at 194 cases right now and only one case of a local transmissionThere must be a few underreported cases though but I think our government is doing a fantastic job so far|1 Dont kid yourself Europe will be fine too People wont have to pay for treatment if theres a spot for them In the US most people wont get any fucking treatment because its gonna cost them 10x their worth|1 Some of my friends and my boyfriend thinks this is overblown by the media yet they are still doing social distancing Im of the mind that it doesnt matter if this is overblown by the media which Im not sure it is most people know not to panic but to be abundantly cautious Id rather be more cautious and be wrong then be less cautious and be a catalyst for someone to get sick|0 He doesnt think all of the sick and dead are fake just that its just a flu and not serious and quarantines are stupid He told me itll all go away In April when it gets warm|0 It takes weeks for this ish to kill you Check back in a month |0 Ever fell that may be deliberate They had a story about a Texanman being arrested for licking ice cream and putting it back in the fridge on the front page next to all of the coronavirus stories Purely for the headline as when you read the article it was back in August The effect that is being created is obvious theres another motive at play emergency powers etc being introduced banning of public gatherings may follow httpsnypostcom20200303coronavirusrecoveryratesexpectedtobehighhealthexpertssay|0 The ellipses werent really necessary but okay Id had a long day wiping bums and fielding pooey incontinence pads and was thinking purely about brexit rather than the geographical location of England Leaving the EU has somewhat been the main topic of conversation here for a little while if you werent aware Its been a long time since Europe the continent has been the subject of much discussion|1 I have a real family If shit came to it my dog would be quarantined anyways and would not be in a position to infect anybody Sure if animals were roaming around thats a different story However if you came to my door trying to gestapo my dog away as some sort of vigilante you will he met with firearms|0 Publicly shame the company and the decision makers Sue|0 Trust system you have to answer the questions like ESTA If youre found to lie youre normally banned from entry to the US for up to 10 yearsTheres also information sharing between countries Its conceivable the US UK EU share traveller information freely|1 This aint good Just a scam for publicity and tryna shake off bad press I dont care if I get downvoted Ive been struggling with addiction to it for as long as I can remember This is what I believe I dont really want to argue just to share my biased opinion|0 We voted out so we didnt have to listen to Europe or experts We are in safe hand with Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson They will do whats right for our country We are not like the Italians We just have to have faith and believe|1 Yes|1 What is The American Dream|1 It inhibits cells from producing normal ACE2 and it changes the pH in cells so the RNA replication is hindered|0 Yeah and 3 of the population wont die but nevermind human life rite Thats not valuable|0 Are you contact with the new latest johor one or original 2 family 10 people|1 I love this comment You stated everything so eloquently I feel dumb for bashing the cdc up to this point|1 Out of subject but looks like its floating|1 But why Tom why couldnt it be someone we all hate Not Woody|0 Other side of the country here but weve had a particularly dickish strain of the flu going around here lately too Actually a couple from what Ive heard but one thats not A or B but has been running through the schools It especially sucks that its been hitting people who got their flu shot too myself included and jfc I dont remember the last time I felt that awful EVERYTHING hurt No fever though This is going to be a fucking mess|0 Woah why are you jumping at me I asked a simple question and I want your opinion calm down|1 i wouldve thought you were baiting hard but i just realized you have your head so far up your own ass you probably cant see anything have a good day homieAh Berine Bro got it|0 Wait a minute if they got this stockpile of expired masks why are they telling people not to hoarduse masks if theyre not sick as it takes away from medical professionals who might need it more Or is that just a thing being said in other countries and Im getting mixed up Just use these masksI think I read something about in Italy was it that they found and seized an illegal stockpile of hoarded mask Sounded like they were stealing peoples personal property because they were under prepared|0 Oh yeah Hilary wouldve crushed this Great track record of caring for Americans|1 Covid bad Minecraft good|0 We closed schools today probably as a response to this paper Taking my dog on a walk city seems dead at least as much as during snowpocalypse if not more It feels like the reduction is greater than 25 Although lack of rigorous testingisolation is probably a big obstacle to hitting the likes of 75|0 depends where they are and if they have pre existing respiratory condition If they are not in an area with bad air quality and not near a fire I doubt it will play a role Oveall air quality in cities has improved considerably over the past month edit I remember reading somewherehttpstheconversationcomweknowbushfiresmokeaffectsourhealthbutthelongtermconsequencesarehazy129451 that the longtem effects of bushfire smoke pollution are currently not known however so I agree that it is interesting to consider|1 Fyi diarrhoea is not a common symptom afaik|1 The selfishness of people is why this outbreak could get really really bad Younger people might not get sick but they could infect and potentially cause the death of an older person I also dont understand why they have to mock people wearing masks Bravado doesnt protect from viruses|0 Wall Street has managed to contain its enthusiasm for the administrations coronavirus policy admirably thus far|1 A report by the health authority in Chinas Guangdong province the countrys most populated province with 113 million people said that 14 of the patients that had recovered from the coronavirus showed new signs of it in later checkups In other words over 1 in 10 people that got rid of the virus got infected again httpswwwzmesciencecomscienceastartlingnumberofcoronaviruspatientsgetreinfectedhttpswwwzmesciencecomscienceastartlingnumberofcoronaviruspatientsgetreinfected About 14 per cent of patients who recovered from the novel coronavirushttpswwwstraitstimescomcoronavirus and were discharged from hospitals in southern Chinas Guangdong province were tested positive again in later checkups according to the local health authorityA positive test suggests the recovered patients may still carry the virus adding complexity to efforts to control the outbreak httpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasia14ofrecoveredcoronaviruspatientsinchinasguangdongtestedpositiveagainhttpswwwstraitstimescomasiaeastasia14ofrecoveredcoronaviruspatientsinchinasguangdongtestedpositiveagain|1 America will break it soon either onrecord or offrecord because they arent testing people and probably will misdiagnose the dead|0 Yeah my instinct is basically to agree with your point about travel But Ive been thinking about it for a month or so now and now think its a bit more nuanced than that My understanding is that basically its too late anyway The UK has 100 cases now If we wanted to totally stop spread via inbound travel we would have had to have closed all the borders immediately Im not even sure whether that would be possible in the current globalized economy especially considering the UKs reliance on imports from eg Germany and India Perhaps the calculation is that the social and economic fallout would do more damage than the virus itself An easy illustration of why travel bans havent been working Italy was one of the only countries in Europe to stop all flights from China and it didnt help them much As to your point about small businesses yes I see what you mean Of course the employees off sick might need those wages to make ends meet I think well see the government stepping into to provide more support in that respect either to employers or individuals One would hope so at least|1 So I asked this question a month ago and have no real idea how it works Do you or anyone know if it can be transmitted back to other animals Says we got it from a snake or batcan my dog or cat get it A tick flea mosquito LivestockI read someones dog tester positive a while back but no idea if thats true or a false positive due to presence rather than infection|1 Why the downvotes Speak the truth|1 I hope they are aware of this because it does sound like Methanol would be what they are discarding|1 Do you want all the NHS staff to stay home with their kids then or|1 No only two under 45 casualties both people with severe preexisting conditions|0 Sitting at home is exactly what he should be doing If you already have supplies to last a few weeks then leave the limited resupplies the stores are getting now for others If you need to shop then you should try to get it when the stores at less busy I went an hour before close on Saturday and there were much less people People waiting in lines next to people for a pack of toilet paper when they have a pack at home is not helping anyone|0 Imagine how ill equipped and prepared the US medical system is plus being hampered by the insurance system and the slow to react government compared to how south korea has responded Its going to be a shit show correction it already is according to the complaints We are seeing in the news from doctors demanding the damn tests now with sick patients they are convinced have the virus Dammit|0 This is an interesting possibility its hard to find statistics on fatalities broken down by both nationality and age but I remember seeing some data that suggested while Italy has lots of deaths there were almost none under the age of 50 or soYes that is true The median age of the deceased was 81 Very few deaths have been reported below 50|1 13 billion Chinese disagree|0 I want the government to get infected then they will start moving just like Iran|0 Japan has been in decline for like 25 years|1 ffs|0 Wow great job NZ America is screwed who is chanting USA USA now|1 This is another thing that worries me the icy bed situation of only having 4000 that already run at a capacity of 70100 whos turned out Italy are prioritising under 60s for ICU which sadly I get from a medical point if views but younger and younger people are needing ICU in those countries what happens when it already is only under 60s who are using the beds whos prioritised then Will it drop to under 40 year olds Will they prioritise the rich Will the prioritise single parents Who gets the beds when there arent enough foe the ones prioritised|1 Amazing to me|1 this should have happened when the breakout happened in Italy Most countries especially in western Europe are taking the decision only after the number of cases crossed 1500 On the other hand Austria Poland Czech closed down universities and schools already|1 Kind of disappointed with the rampant speculation and paranoia in a sub dedicated to scientific discussion|0 Is this from Yes Minister|1 Yes its not magic youd be OK as long as The food you eat has not been contaminated Youd need to stock up now rather than having shit delivered Your apartment doesnt have rubbish aircon or plumbing that allows vital spread between apartments happened with SARSIn 18 months youd likely have a vaccine or could enrol in a vaccine trial|1 Link please|1 The official data is lax on status of infection but their quarantine methods by mass lockdown is very strict and overlooks cross infection This creates a discrepancy where China clears infectious carriers to enter other countries who are advised by WHO to not lock their borders|1 IIRC it also had to do with prior exposure to the flu based on when you were born Some people its theorized were exposed to a different version of the 19181919 virus and therefore recovered|0 If youre treating a patient having good general health good hygiene and fully washed hands with a mask will offer you some protectionHowever its not exactly clear how this virus spreads If it is similar to the common cold then masks are useless as it spreads by touching infected surfaces and then touching your face eyes nose and mouth Have you looked up how to remove a surgical mask properly and dispose of it As you kind of need to touch your face to remove itSome studies currently are showing this virus is spread simply by breathing as its not sitting in the lungs but more in the nasal passages as its colder and more ideal conditions Which if breathing is why this is spreading a mask will be even more useless even if you wear it to protect others As I said a N95 respirator will help protect you a surgical mask will help protect others|1 I hear what youre saying but MPs will most likely have private health care for themselves and families I dont believe that they have individuals best interests as opposed to national interests if that makes sense That said I do tend to think the worst of them|1 I am certain there was right before the lockdown and for sure if we do the same thing China did we will also get the same results|1 Good|1 Its an excellent article Similar to one I was reading yesterday by the Scripps Institute and the University of Edinburgh If you dont mind I was wondering if you would share your qualifications for making these determinations as it helps readers to separate real science vs fear mongering Thanks|1 You dont understand how unlucky works Yes one out of xxx would in all probability get infected despite the small chance he just happened to be that one|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Lol no both korea and japan are more expensive than US in labor costs Im saying that as a korean|1 Nah any standard is higher than ur idt FDA standard only the CDC test kits were malfunctioning HTF do you thing Chinese test kits are bad you were talking about three months ago When CDC produced nothing Just the American stuff are bad Chinese Korean WHO etc they are all better The Chinese had been testing 200k people per day|0 People eating my glutenfree stuff is cause for war Especially my microscopically small 7 bag of pretzels|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the 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with the lives of thousands and at the heart only because of economic considerations So what misinformation|0 Youre sort of giving it away arent you The purpose of school is mostly daycare Well adjust Its better than death|1 Were not very good at viruses Look at HIV HPV Herpes common cold influenza We somewhat handle these things but not 100|0 It looks like everything CLO Junkies has been giving us are lies He tries to play nice but then the the one that really is censoring everything He wants power and lusts control|1 Yep When people see something that they know is fake often enough they start believing it Its why truth is important and why lies must be stopped not just proven to be lies|0 DRACO kills infected cells Which means it can kill you just as easily as the disease if you are completely infected Its a hammer not a scalpel|0 Im right there with you guys Im not a fan of Mike DeWine but he is doing this the right way and not fucking around I think given his prompt proactive aggressive response to contain things Ohio is going to come out of this better than a lot of other states|1 Just keep up on your liquids and you shouldnt have to worry about it|1 No The CDC ships dangerous pathogens all over the world resulting in very near catastrophic releases from time to time They are careless and incompetent The Ebola situation was the most recent publicized show of dangerous incompetence by the CDC but there are many Im sure their incompetence with this pathogen wont be their last Imagine preventing people from being tested Lolhow much more corrupt and incompetent can you be when your mandate is to prevent the spread of disease|0 Yeah Im actually trying find everything and watch them all Hopefully translatedsubtitled|1 Guess he wants to downplay the danger|0 Herd immunity is a reasonable strategy if you have some way to make enough people have the mild cases without infecting those who wont have mild cases Such as vaccines andor a way to save the lives of those who wont have the mild casesLetting the disease run rampant with random spread and no where near enough the equipment needed to keep people alive aint quite thatI could accept it as reasonable to only start contact tracing and testing with the hospitalized patients But meticulous tracing should be done starting from those patientsThat would put a strong pressure on the virus to evolve towards milder cases as all of the dangerous infection chains get eradicated while the mild ones are allowed to spread for as long as they can avoid putting anyone in hospital|1 Use reliable sourcesThats the Netherlands Fuck this|0 Norway ftw|1 Sue him Toss his ass in jail again and throw away the key|0 Disney presentsClosing the Parks a Behind the Magical Closing special|1 Stop spreading misinformation young people can get sick and many have Smokers and vapers get hit pretty damn hard with this virus The whole young people are mostly okay mentality is exactly why we still had fucking droves of people out for spring break who may have unknowingly and irresponsibly become carriers who will go on to cause clusters all over the countryPeople are stupid and it certainly doesnt help that our equally stupid president kept calling this a Democratic Hoax early on|0 How about consumers purchase gouging If people werent buying up a years supply of TP there would be no none price gouging|0 just clear your cookies and youll get a few articles consider setting your browser to delete all cookies when you exit if needed you can whitelist your favorite sites so you dont have to log in each time but it deletes all other cookies|1 Not until 1 week later unless they have a remote work arrangement with their companies or work for crucial businesses eg supermarkets gas stations etc Today is the first day for the stock market and some government offices to reopenFor your other questions this is the collateral damage of the epidemic that not many talk about but that adds to the hardship|0 The government is granted extraordinary powers in emergencies|1 Tells the real truth too on how dangerous it is|0 The third point is to be proactive in shaping international opinion The international community has paid close attention to the development of this epidemic and we must proactively address this international attention We need to tell the story of the Chinese resistance against the epidemic in order to showcase the spirit of Chinese people coming together through thick and thin Xi Jinping Feb2 2020|1 The swine flu was tackled as a serious matter This is like a repeat of the Spanish flu|0 No but its pretty reasonable to include deaths directly caused by the consequences of the disease overloading the medical system if youre discussing the impact of the disease|1 I doubt age makes you immune From my understanding younger people have better resistance against the virus The chance of survival lowers as the age increases in addition to underlying health conditions such as already compromised immune systems taking immunosuppressant drugs diabetes cancer etc It doesnt mean that young people shouldnt be scared they should be more cautious because any young healthy individual can carry the virus and transmit it to their loved ones This could be their parents pregnant wife friend who has a weaker immune response|1 I feel bad that I didnt sound the alarm but based on the dismissive reaction when I merely brought up the virus I dont think it would have done any good I did talk with others who were concerned and made and gathered suggestions on what to make sure we had|1 At the time they called it unknown pneumonia China had been through SARS Their inaction for 2mon was prepared to accept an R0 of 3 66 fatality like SARS|0 Possibly but I am still skeptical|0 Korean chiming in Important to point out that 31 is a cultist and most of the major spread since then was led by the cultist group The cult namely shincheonji is the main cause of this outbreak Their leader told the believers to remove mask while gathering once there was outbreak ordered believers to avoid authorities trying to diagnose them ordered loyal members to infiltrate into other churches to spread it so it doesnt look like they are the cause of this outbreak The authority has been trying to do what they can to prevent but they locked up the church building to prevent authority from sanitizing the building too Witnessing the gravity of the whole event a new law had been approved to punish those who do not cooperate the governmental effort of contamination As soon as the new law has been approved the cult leader now claims that they will fully cooperate and hope the disease will be over with soonand handed over fake believers list We need to come up with some serious mother fucking punishment for these cultists after all this is over|0 httpswwwzerohedgecomgeopoliticalbritishairwaysendsallflightschinavirusspreadsmiddleeasthttpswwwzerohedgecomgeopoliticalbritishairwaysendsallflightschinavirusspreadsmiddleeastThis site has been good with its reporting so far so this is more likely to be accurate than not|1 Hitmen lol|1 I like how a city with 10 million inhabitants can be called random in China lol|1 I work at a builders merchants had some toothless cretin of a customer today that its just the flu the amount of customers that I speak to that think its some conspiracy is frightening|0 Whilst I respect what you are saying if you are concerned about that then you should either stop going into work or isolate your elderly relatives as per the government recommendations Swearing at me on Reddit isnt going to protect them|0 Big words no likey|0 That would explain why ex smokers are the least impacted High ace2 expression from years of smoking but clean lungsPerfect combo to survive|1 2 champs|1 Im Canadian so my opinion on good country leadership isnt great either Our prime minister is questionable at best but if you are supporting Trump this article doesnt help your case much|1 I hope they start wearing masks and go on tv to explain why we shouldnt Yep Gotcha|1 Do you think a million dead in the US in a year wont cause bankruptcies|0 THANK YOU|1 Same I came on here when Wuhan got locked down still thinking the flu was worse Didnt take long to change my mind Luckily I started buying doubles of our nonperishables 6 weeks ago so were real good over here All prepared to self quarantine|1 Someone has to die to make 02 Just like someone has to win the powerball|1 What do you mean by the rest of China there are at least 10 cities with over 10 million people and many cities near that amountTheres huge populations everywhere in China|1 This aligns with my experienced on the ground here in a nonHebeiWuhan Chinese CityMortality rate in these cities if we go by official numbers is around 02 to 035 Similar to mortality rates reported outside China This is probably closer to the actual mortality rates which puts it at only slightly more dangerous than common fluHospitals in the City I live arent that busy The whole province here has over 25 million people and infections are in the low hundreds If death rates were higher then more people would be in the hospitals|0 Europeans being racist what else is newAll nonChinese Asians arent fans of the mainland Chinese either This virus just confirmed their stereotypes|0 acted fast muhaha yeah right|0 Hopefully they dont rush it so much that they miss important factors|1 So Cork Dublin personally hoping this gets the ball rolling for more big events|1 If youre living in Asia like me people are still obsessed with it It dominates the news our daily conversation how we go to work how we socialize etc And we have real reasons to worry|0 I just need to vent to some people who will understand what Im feeling Fucking hell So I live in Nanjing but Ive just spent the last 6 weeks at home in Melbourne I was holidaying right near the worst of the bushfires and evacuated early Im currently in Hong Kong as I had a shoulder reconstruction yesterday Now Im apparently immunocompromised and Ive got a flight booked back to Nanjing tomorrow morning Do I take it Do I stay here Do I go back to MelbourneI dont know how I can guarantee that I will safely make it back to Nanjing let alone manage on my own once Im back there Shitting bricks here guys Thank fuck for the tramadol Im thinking I should just bail back to Melbourne but I may lose my job potentially for nothing as this all could be safe|0 No problem matey|0 Well they have to say that because thats the advice us minions have been getting for weeks Hopefully theyre shitting it now and itll lead to some appropriate action|1 You forgot the worst of them allCovidsupport|0 This will be annoying so I apologize in advance But thank you for informing us Could you dm too if thats possible Thank you once again|1 Let me be crystal clear|1 popcorn chocolate alcohol renew your streaming subscriptions If you have a yard I also recommend some vegetable plants andor seeds|1 Its certainly possible for there to be race correlated differences in severity and outcomes But bear in mind the Iranians and Italians seem to be getting pretty darn sick from this thing Were going to need a LOT more observational data outside of Asia to test a hypothesis like this|1 Its also exposing the importance of strong borders that are heavily secured|1 I think Im one of the few people that thinks using our limited testing on famous people is actually a good thing It is the best way to spread awareness of the disease|1 The media definitely shares some blame for oversimplification and overdramatization However a lot of those threats are also real The bird flu that keeps popping up in China kills something like 60 of people That makes it less likely to spread but imagine if it got a coronavirus like incubation period Frankly weve had plenty of warning shots already that havent been heeded we still arent prepared enough and now weve got the real thing happening that will bring the economy to its knees This was bound to happen eventually and we could have been ready Dont forget that when its a massive shitshow in a few months|1 This article reported the death in WA as a WOMAN when it is a MAN how difficult is it to get these simple facts correct|0 I saw on another post that he was intubated after death and his being kept technically alive on a machine that pumps the blood The post said that he is brain dead Apparently there was such an uproar in China when his death was announced and this was the responseWhy was there confusion over his deathGlobal Times Peoples Daily and other Chinese media reported Dr Lis death earlier on ThursdayDr Li was initially declared dead at 2130 local time and the news triggered a huge wave of popular reaction on Weibo Chinas equivalent of TwitterThe Peoples Daily sent out a tweet saying Dr Lis death had sparked national griefHowever Global Times then said he had been given a treatment known as ECMO extracorporeal membrane oxygenation which keeps a persons heart pumping and keeps their blood oxygenated without it going through their lungsGlobal Times said he was in a critical conditionJournalists and doctors at the scene who do not want their names used told the BBC and other media that government officials had intervenedOfficial media outlets had been told to change their reports to say the doctor was still being treatedhttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina51403795|0 One of my family legitimately has flu So I think it is meaningless to psycho analyze this data right now|0 standardized health educationThats why Im voting Bernie Ill be honest Ive been skeptical of socialism but the growth of China and Europe has satisfied many of my doubts on itAmerican mass consumerism Keeps the Chinese economy alive Correct me if Im wrong but China is trying to turn its people into consumers of their own Chinese productsThe fact that there are 7 to 1 more prisoners per capita in US prison systems compared to China also indicates shortcomings in that systemNot necessarily It seems to me that certain types of crimes are rampant in China Then there are the human rights crimes that the CCP authorities themselves order or commit|0 Who has written several antiTrump opinion pieces over the past several yearsIm not a Trump fan but given that this is an opinion piece without very much evidentiary substance its pretty clear there could be political motivation|1 This account is crazy |0 Exact same thing happened here in Australia tooExcept our people actually still needed them for the bushfire smokeDidnt stop the hordes of Chinese rushing to every store possible so they could send them back home for a profitWe havent been able to get masks for around 3 weeks now websites havehad big disclaimers on them for people looking Even the stock in country areas has been snapped up and sent offshoreIts a fucking joke|1 Also Azathioprine Lopinavir Ritonavir were also banned on the same date Heard Lopinavir Ritonavir before in regards to Covid19 but Azathioprine is a new one to me|0 GGGood Game 1 A polite remark uttered after the end of a round game or other measured interval to indicate that a match was fair and enjoyable Usually uttered collectively by the occupants of a game server The opposite of wordBGword|1 I believe the countries believe this to be true Many have included it into their care guidelines Beating this will take an international effort My hope is they are releasing private peer reviews and countries are stock piling for critical patients and at risk and ramping up to use like tamiflu later this year Its the only reason all the trials still havent had many leaks on results Call me an optimist Maybe thats why the us isnt like we should also|1 Probably dont want the stigma attached|0 Yup thats him Very confident in his delivery|1 Oh poor monkeys Im sorry for hungry people too but this is sad|0 You lose your job and also your medical insurance|0 And 19 of them were employees sir would you like another helping |1 I agree this is not verified but in the articles defense weve heard all these things in other reports except the heart attacks thats new|0 With the schools open the kids will go home to their parents If you close the schools then kids will end up being looked after by a carousel ride of friends relatives and neighbors often in groups So by closing the schools you are likely to increase the number of unique contacts between members of the public not decrease it|1 Sure youre not wrong but its not a matter of what we should do its a matter of what we can do Right now we dont have enough masks for that At the rate of one mask PER HEALTHCARE WORKER per DAY we would run out in two days based on the supply we have on handSure but that doesnt change the fact that its ethically bankrupt to LIE about masks Its patently untrue that they dont protect from the diease duh because otherwise why would HCWs need them They need to stop lying and start telling the truth Better yet explain to the public that theres a big shortage for HCWs and ask those who hoarded masks to donate them to the cause Lying and saying masks dont work p is stupid and destructive on many levels Obviously eventually the public will figure out theyve been lied to and thereafter will have much less trust if any in what officials are saying But also like I said they could potentiall y get people to donate their suppplis They can also and I think have stop the sale of masks to private people so its not like telling the truth would cause panic buying since if stocks are restricted there cant be panic buying We must always ask ourselves what is the cost of lies|0 Keep on top of your health wear a mask out in public|1 Everybody still visit places like this at this time Haas deserved any consequencesholy shit ppl|0 Didnt mean it was about me Im an ICU nurse in a busy Los Angeles hospital theyve been rationing masks for the last month Do I have it Probably Do I have any symptoms No Have I passed it to others Maybe although in my profession we wash hands or use alcohol scrub 50 times a day Its most likely widespread by now|0 How many of them are rich or famous|1 There is a 360 minute delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 6 days on 20200316 030448 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003162003044820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffui5hinfectiousdiseasesprofessoranddirectorofthefk2uik3context3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Fffui5h2Finfectiousdiseasesprofessoranddirectorofthe2Ffk2uik32F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020031620033A043A4820UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120ffui5hInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 This might be because lots of other places test and most are not done by the CDC but nice job trying to instill fear|0 Ive made this argument to my management 100s of times but they would rather see me sitting in my chair doing literally nothing but stare at a blank screen for 9 hours than let me do the same from my home|0 This is the federal governments problem and they are failing almost it seems purposefully|0 When they pass a massive stimulus bill with helicopter money paid sick leave increased unemployment insurance support for ailing industries etc|0 Make a list of everything you cant live without in a monthly period Not only household essentials but items for your personal comfort OTC painkillers earplugs books to read puzzles games etcPlease show your parents statistics about the virus I urge you to share this post with them httpswwwredditcomrSeattlecommentsfd595kpsaanoteofcautionregardingcovid19utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrSeattlecommentsfd595kpsaanoteofcautionregardingcovid19utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x It might not change their minds but I feel like the more you insist on them processing the risks the more alert theyll become Invest in a fan for every room where people sleep or sit all the time I was just reading about how circulating the air is healthy it prevents clusters of droplets from forming in the air and then entering your lungs in a big burst Running the AC also works but fans for sure|1 In nineteen ninety eight Tulsi Gabbard threw Mike Pence off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16ft through an announcers table|0 Wow great info Thank you for sharing Ill do more research|1 Seriously though its fucking scary seeing shelves completely empty of hand soapFortunately most people dont seem to know that shampoo face wash shower gel and dishwasher liquid works just as well theyre all literally soap Buy those if your local place runs outBut still damn feels surreal|0 Or more people die of heart diseasesuicideobesity etc every day maybe we should care more about that Some of the ignorance is outstanding|1 What about their friends and family theyd take it back to|1 I feel like the opportunity cost of storing a fuckton of masks for 8 years is probably more than the 8k he made in profit|1 Pretty sure they have good theories on what a vaccine should be but it takes time to test it on animals and people and then it takes more time produce for everybody so that is why people are saying a year or more By then over a billion people will probably be infected|0 We need to repurpose hotels for all types of vulnerable people in our country theyre not going to have many customers soon anyway Use hotels for people whove run away from abusive relationships the homeless people living in dangerous housing imagine if another Grenfell happened in the midst of a pandemic anyone who would struggle to care for themselves but arent already in a care homeHell move prisoners in to hotels There are several times more hotel rooms than prisoners in the UK Im sure it would be far safer medically and theyd be less likely to riot|0 Thats the case for everything in the US Centralized anything at this scale has a lot of room for failureExcept that when it comes to potentially national crisis a centralized agency has significantly more mobility and capability than 52 states with different plans and funding and capabilitiesWhats happening right now isnt a failure of the CDC its the failure of our fucking president who has been neutering them for 4 years including just firing the pandemic team and spreading false rumors about the virus|0 Without talking specifically about my unit the critically ill patients across the UK are in a broad age mix There are a smaller number of younger patients 30s to 40s who are usually well and a larger number of older patients with comorbiditiesThose who are critically ill due to covid19 or in general|0 Sir sir the French are revoltingWell we knew thatYes but now theyre rebelling|0 Try hundreds of millions if the death rate is actually 34 If the numbers from China and the WHO are right theres going to be 20 hospitalizedhttpswwwuchicagomedicineorgforefrontpreventionandscreeningarticleswuhancoronavirus 6 in need of ICU ie they need to be on ventilators to survivehttpswwwstatnewscom20200225newdatafromchinabuttressfearsabouthighcoronavirusfatalityratewhoexpertsays and 34 deadhttpswwwsciencealertcomcovid19sdeathrateishigherthanthoughtbutitshoulddrop Assuming 70 infection which several experts have said is probable thats thats about 5439539000 infected 1087907800 hospitalized 326372340 in ICU and 184944326 dead globally|0 Hes such a sick person Hes only doing this because hes narcissistic and wants to look good and secure his place in the next presidential election Fuck Donald Trump|0 That sucks I know Costco and a few big places are still low Try SaveOn Foods They have frequently been restocking|0 I imagine the CDC is only hampered by the cough political factor cough otherwise theyd pretty much follow any imaginable lead|1 I mean the whole thing is a bit more complicated it has to do with airline policy and the whole thing actually first blew up coz the wuhan folks posted it on social media blaming the rest of the passenger not being comrades enough and is discriminating them Instead of having chinese social media supporting that post most people online blamed them instead and thats where the event got traction to get chinese embassy involved|0 I have symptoms but wasnt tested since my fever wasnt high enough needs to be over 101 my girlfriend goes to a school in New York City that has confirmed cases and she has a dry cough They told us no fever no test My manager says I have to come in unless I get tested and its positive I just really hope I dont get others sick with anything|1 Reminder They still have no idea if he died from covid19|0 Yes the numbers were low for several weeks at the start Exponential numbers are a bitch|0 Im glad the rest of the world is gonna be ok Im about ready to kill myself when this gets bad in the us|0 It is true that getting coronavirus doubles risk of mortality given this chart It is not true that half of all the people who die of coronavirus would have died from something elseLets suppose we take a group of 100K people and give them all covid19 If coronavirus didnt exist in the assigned population suppose that they would have a 1 annual chance of dying and now they have a 2 chance So what will happen 200 people will likely die on average 100 from covid and 100 from something else the things that cause base rate of 1 if coronavirus did not exist we would expect the base rate of deaths 100 but lets be clear the 100 people that died of covid would not have likely died at all or more accurately they would have died at the base rate of 1 because preexisting conditions worsen outcomes it is true that those who die of covid19 would not actually die at base rate but certainly fewer than half would have died|0 Not saying its okay but if they start testing people everyone with a cough is going to come in saying they saw an Asian person with a mask and now they feel sick People are stupid when theyre scared|0 No shit But it still has to be said Its almost impossible to walk a fine line between telling people not to panic but to also prepare|0 So theres still a window of opportunity to rename the viirus to Spanish flu 20|1 I have now this strange visage of a farm specialized in milking scooter manatees |0 I thought reddit loved minorities|1 Im sure she did her best and died from trying|1 That was an awesome essay|1 again its not an excuse to pollute and be coming up with worse polluters Any number coming from China is not trustworthy Im fairly certain that this is another measure that they botch next to their GDP and their coronavirus case counts|0 San Jose hospital has already set up tents they already had them for sever flu seasons just FWIW|0 i watched WPD videos before the sub was banned can confirm that half of all Brazilians are off duty cops|0 Thank you very much from canada|1 In Hungary the 4th discovered infected broke the first request given to him Stay put until a special ambulance brings you in|0 Well im glad im not working in your country then That would literally be an infringment of your human rights in the UK|1 Thats the spirit|1 We still have heard no plan on domestic spreading|0 Their was an article recently about a 3dprinted valveprobably as a replacement part but clearly not the whole machine|1 Hold the fuck on Are you suggesting that if we all stay at home for lets say1 full year the people that would have died will now be immune to the virus that has spread throughout the entire planet Walk me through your logic Pretend im child|0 No the samples have to be sent to a lab that has an available test kit Independent labs are starting to make their own kits but that takes time|0 If you dont want them feel free to redirect the plane down to us Cheers mate|1 Good for you but when most people realise the must of mask the masks were already out of stock|1 Finally a good joke about this subject|1 Well you got your wish but now because so many people are trying to play it the site is deadThis could not get any more rmonkeyspaw|1 Anyone who completed year 7 probability would consider the selection bias of someone presenting to the hospital with flu like symptoms|0 I know that O is very rare in Asia WHen I lived in Vietnam I was told by my French doctor that because I had O blood type I needed to sign up to a registry because O is extremely rare in Vietnam and we had to rely on each other in the event one of us needed blood Not sure about O but Im certain O is very rare in AsiaEdit I just looked it up Apparently 45 of the population of Vietnam is O Its only the Rh blood types all of them that are very rare in Vietnam and Asia in general|1 OMG they are that stupid still cant believe the alternative that they want it to spread|0 So thats a no then|0 If the gym has been been forced to close and cant claim insurance because the govt havent told them to close they should have no reason to close Blame the govt if you want to blame someone not the people|0 Lol I think the shot that person that broke quarantineSo i guess they have found a violent cure for everyone but the person infectedbreakingquarantine|0 You still cant graph it like this though If we dont have the data we dont have the data You shouldnt just start using whatever methods suit the results you hoped to create|1 On one hand I am glad people are still eating out Us servers bartenders still have to make money to feed ourselves|1 Well thats because that has nothing to do with me because I never said anything about|1 The next step will be for them to defy the FDACDC and start saving patients lives with remdesivirchloroquinefavipiravir before the painfully slow clinical trials are done in 2 months That is when things will really get interesting|0 just so everyone knows you can also text the Resist bot which isText RESIST to 50409you can also use the bot on Telegram resistbot with no space afterResistbot is good for writing to your officials in congress|1 What a weird fucking jaw|0 Im glad we have this sub because I would feel even more lonely without you fellow redditors|1 So basically the employment law equivalent of SLAAP suits but in this case it actually helps the little guy I like it hahaIssue is though I wouldnt pay an employment lawyer to file a complaint if I didnt think I was likely to get anything out of it Is it just a lot cheaper to file a complaint than it is to deal with them on the employer side|1 Shit At this rate were gonna make the Great Depression blush|0 Also there are a lot of office related companies in the state at least in Cincinnati based on my experience and my friends that are planning on sending as many people as possible to work from home This includes everyone from higher ups to low level clerkscall center employees who could 100 do their jobs from home|1 1we are 2 weeks behind Italy Hospitals there are turning away patients because they do not have resources particularly a shortage of respirators We should have some contests to design and build cheap respirators no matter how jury rigged that can keep people alive We have a week to design and a week to build Someone McGyver the out if this We need to aggressively fight to keep the bell curve as flat as possible If 15 of the population needs medical care we wont be able to handle the crisis even with the military mobilized to help I have been watching the online there has been a downward trend but internationally over 10 of patients are severely or critically ill At one point it was closer to 20 |0 Thanks for this Id not seen it before To be clear it states that the longer that schools were closed for the lower the ultimate number of deaths in the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918Also the post below it forced a vocal laughing sound from my currently fully operational lungsCorona Virus is stopped after racist and homophobic tweets from 2009 resurfaceEdit the sound was not made by my lungs but by the air forced from my lungs passing overthrough my vocal chords|0 A lot of those cases are probably sick because they didnt take precautions because of the Im not old attitude|0 Cant wait to do the same today bless you|1 and had significant underlying health conditionsWhy do they make a point of stipulating this like it makes it ok This and always mentioning that they are older people like its expected and we should feel blas about the whole thing|1 That rabbit hole goes deeper If you really read that Paris Climate Treaty they tried to pass a few years ago Essentially it told USEurope they could have no industry but IndiaChina could keep doing whatever they wanted for the next 13 years There was a very intentional international effort to sabotage Western nations on the world stage To what end I dunno just its obvious they knew what would happen if they did these things|0 Thanks for taking the initiate to make an Aus based sub Ive seen UK and USA ones Was waiting for the australia one to be made Ive joined it |1 South Korea Your man failed matey|0 Lets be real Theres no better way to deal with shit in your life If you start panicking you star acting irrationally Its a no brainer My company is probably gonna fail The unemployment here is gonna go up Probably some of us are gonna lose our elderly loved ones And its nothing you can do about it beside being rational and making the right choices in the right moment And being pessimistic or start panicking is not gonna help you achieve that rational thinking Im not worried about myself here Were strong motherfuckers We were beating fucking mammoths back in the days If this goes on theres a lot of things that are gonna change Be prepared Stay focused Make the right fucking choices Love you all|0 The USA color on the chart looks like the Germany color on the keyEdit I get downvotes because they cant match the word USA with the key color My 4 year old could do better Thanks|1 What concerns me most is how many nations are doing absolutely nothing to stop the spread and lying to those living in the areas I live in one such area I tried to inform at risk people in one building that there had been a confirmed case therenobody knew because it had only just been admitted in the news in a small story and the building was allowed to stay open until pressure from locals led to it being shut 24 hours laterAll sorts of old people with illnesses used that building all day used the toilets the cafe interacted with people who worked their over the past weekand old people are most at riskThe local authorities response They held a press conference where they refused to speak and instead held up a small poster that said wash your handsMeanwhile china is quarantining entire cities issuing masks cleaning banknotes and more because they see the risk of spreading as almost unstoppableWe are being lied to Those in power know loads will die know that delay allows them to get their money out of certain stock markets before they crash and know that in ten years the only blowback theyll face while retiring on some paradise island sipping cocktails is a fake inquest that takes ten years and blames nobody Its the same as it always was Only the names change over the yearsthe pattern stays the same|0 Flowchart a local county posted today dated 228 said theyd only test if you had a severe case of lower respiratory illness and tested negative for the flu Dont think its changed since then So were only counting the very worst cases So if thats 20 we easily have over 100 cases Of course its higher than that|0 It must suck to be in a quarantined town wait for weeks get no new infections so the quarantine can be lifted only to find the entire country around you to be in quarantine|0 Would be surprised if they did Was talking to my friend about this and at least in the US if things get bad enough its going to highlight how terribly fragile the economic stability of the hourly wage service industry the largest industry in the US is Workers in this industry often end up in bad positions from one instance of bad luck or one bad sick period of being unable to work that leads to them failing to make rent or utilities or have to skimp out on food all the time Lets see what happens when it happens to tens of millions at once|0 You would in a life or death situation for free or if you are poor or elderly for free|0 Its really bad already but imagine what this kind of thing could look like if it were biological warfare someone targeting us Thank god this is not it but it is a warning about how vulnerable we have becomeCoronavirus is a wakeup call to strengthen healthcare and emergency response|0 I find it really amazing in times of tragedy how the world comes together to fight something Obviously no tragedy is better But thinking about 911 or swine flu or the plane that landed on the Hudson river Race gender education level political views none of it matters The world comes together to support each other|0 I work at a major grocery chain weve had confirmed cases in the area thousands of customers the past few days no protections for us we arent even closing the salad bar Im definitely going to get it told my parents and siblings I wont see them for a while|1 I dont know I try not to bring it up unless its a response to someone else or a direct question but the amount of Trudeau Bashing Conservative Party loving and up until last week Trump Praising is pretty insane|1 Thats insane Talk about seeing everything wrong with America in one fell swoop|0 Does your disaster plan include setting up capacity at other locations Like now unused convention centers schools gymsOr what plan is there to increase the capacity 10 fold As will probably be requiredDo you have sources for additional equipment Like storage sites of old retired gearDo you have any information as to how much staff will you have access to Retiredin trainingmilitary|1 I didnt stress it but back in February I mentioned on Facebook the coming economic issues with supply lines and that the stock market would likely dipMy wife didnt quite understand my concern but tolerated it Since I do the shopping I started buying extra food about a month ago Not hoarding just a few extra boxes of spaghetti soup peanut butter etc everytime I shopped If we had a deep freezer Id have bought extra roasts and stuff I wanted to have at least 3 weeks of food incase I got sick and couldnt shop My wife understood the impact a week or 2 ago|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 He had two one civil and one military The Epidemic Intelligence Service part of CDC and the military equivalent in USAMRIID The former founded in 1951 the latter in 1969 both welltested and mature organizationsHe did react incredibly slowly and irresponsible only declaring a state of emergency after 1000 deaths in the USHe ignored the data he had in hand and acted irresponsibly I speculate because he had a Vice President whose son ran a hedge fund that was balls deep in Chinese stateowned enterprises|1 Taking it seriously is directly correlated to IQ of the personIm having a lot of troubles trying to explain this to member of my family that have low iq They simply cant understand the magnitude and repercussion of this pandemic|0 Thank you|1 Well that makes me feel so much better Americas known for its fantastic infrastructure s|1 How would you locate a snake massage parlor Asking for a friend|1 Lol uhhuh|1 Lol no The Chinese government ignored the whistleblower reported it to the head secretary who relayed the following information Try to contain it but dont disrupt the festivities So the bureaucrat went lol sure and did nothing They organise feasts for 40k families knowing theres a virus going on Then the shit hits the fan then they did a 180 and started locking up entire citiesAlso if you actually read the article youd see the CDC actually did a bunch of shit to prevent the virus from spreading its simply because it wasnt enoughx200BThe US had a head start and the government responded by restricting travels from China but it wasnt enough because countries around the world bought into WHOs BS that travel restriction wasnt needed so most countries didnt ban jack shit People were dodging the ban via transiting through a third countriesYou get Chinese people travelling to other countries infecting other people who then travelled to America from countries other than China Get itTrump is a fucking moron and says stupid shit and his detachment from reality did not help much but to say that the Chinese government acted while the US did nothing was stretching to truth to the point of lying|1 Supply and Demand|0 Why of course How else are they going to get the money to keep the stock market running Same story different day Protect the rich 1st American lives 2ndhttpswwwamericanbankercomarticlesfedpledgesmorethan500billiontokeepfundingmarketscalmhttpswwwwsjcomarticlesfedtoinject15trillioninbidtopreventunusualdisruptionsinmarkets11584033537|1 Florida is like a one big petri dish|1 Reddit Grandmas are the best|1 Well that is interesting and I didnt know about that Thank you|1 80 of ncov victims are over the age of 60 since ncov like most flus do the most harm to the elderly so if you believe that this is a bioweapon you also have to believe that its targeting the elderly aka conservative voters|0 I needed to hear this I am mentally not doing well at all|0 Its times like this I have to give props to my mom Shes been slowly stocking up for at least a month now Our house is like a mini showroom Note to everyone try to get things like tylenol advil etc to mitigate fevers just in case|1 The second waveshould there be will be much smaller as Wuhan is prepared this time|1 Im no fan of the 1 but I fear clips of people cheering his death or infection being shown 24 hours a day on Fox News would well and truly break this country|1 I worked with a previous CSO and know the calibre of the people involved If youve worked in academia you will be familiar with the egos of all the other experts in a domain Some will say they would make a different call but they dont have the evidence or the skin in the game The central science boards are making the same calls and are in constant dialogue with WHO This weeks hysteria will soon be over when thresholds are met|0 Thats what I was wondering In America if you told everyone they cant go to work within like a week or two at least half of people wont have any money left Most Americans have no savings We wont be able to pay our rent|0 Yeah its getting blown way out of proportion|1 They shouldnt be in there they should be outside ffs|0 I love his manner Yesterday he began his video by apologizing for having become emotional the day before As an internet saturated American I had to go back and listen again still have no idea what he was referring to I suppose what a British boomer and an American gen xer consider inappropriate emotional displays are different things Im thinking Dr John should probably stay off of Twitter|1 Oklahoma CityOklahoma recently declared a state of emergency with 8 confirmed cases There are no fully stocked stores With a few businesses cutting hours and a few closing it seems like some of us will be prepared within predictions but is Oklahoma serious not at all We have no official testing center and many still will work in and with the public|0 Whats your husbands job I ask because I think some of us even without the Coronavirus get off put sometimes by people who aggressively shake our hands With the Coronavirus a lot of us find it now to be insulting as if they dont care about our healthsorry I dont mean to preach to the choir but maybe this gives you some leverage with debating him about this|0 In very poor taste|0 Makes sense I literally have no idea what Im talking about and Im not an expert or even above average with Economics but what you say makes a shit ton of sense with a finite amount of resources so if you have 1 person A with 100 1 person B with 5 1 person C with 050A hamburger costs 1Person A buys a burger and it only costs them 1 of their wealthPerson B buys a burger and it costs them 20 of their wealthPerson C cant buy a burger because they cant afford itPerson D who is selling the burgers only makes 2 sales They can stick with that model or most likely raise their prices At that point they risk pricing out Person B but Person A doesnt need multiple burgers Its finiteIncrease velocity of money in a community would allow Person D to hold burger prices steady and allow all 3 of the others to buy a burger which increases sales maybe to the point where a new employee is brought on board|0 Word Does anyone even know how much the CDC or state labs are charging for the testingAnd since the testing isnt great sometimes more than once|0 Dayton here Its certainly nice to see a politician that understands that science can be counted on in times like this|1 Looks like it I know it wasnt being taken seriously when only some places were red zone I was in one of them but since all Italy is subject to the same rules it looks like its being respected much more|1 lmao they already got that shit bro trust me on that|1 a glimmer of hope|1 Your forgetting the fact no one will wear these masks like they did in China Everyone here is scared of looking weird to social norms It can spread here just as badlyI take my kid to my neighborhood park fairly often If another kid so much as sneezes the moms and dads are grabbing their kids reaching for the hand sanitizer and querying the parent as to whether the kid is sick or has allergies If you go to a grocery store here many stores have sanitizing wipes for the shopping carts Plus we are in flu season so a lot of folks are already paranoid I dont think getting Americans to wear a mask or change a few habits will be much of a stretch|0 This is the strangest timeline What happened to pushing for corporate bailouts and payroll tax cuts by the GOP|0 Please try to hang in there friend|1 They arent avoiding the flight because theyre chineseYes they are Tuesday after realizing people from the city at the center of the coronavirus outbreak were also booked on the flightOne of the most racist things Ive ever read in a loooong time And you people upvote and defend this garbage Sad|0 hey fellow asthmatic here I went to my asthma doc today because Ive been having a bad flare lately too got a new stronger maintenance inhaler to go with my rescue but he said some things that I found reassuring allergy season is already underway here on the East Coast the pollen is definitely doing its thing so if allergies make your asthma worse thats me it would be normal to have some symptomsalso and I knew this you probably do too but reminders are good anxiety can make chest tightness even worse if you havent already nows the time to learn some simple deep breathingcalming routines you can do if you start to feel panickyfinally and this is just one doctors opinion he said that age and conditions like heart disease diabetes etc are much bigger risk factors than asthma dont get me wrong asthma puts us in a higher risk category than someone without asthma but thats true for ANY respiratory illness including seasonal flu which is why you should get a flu shot asap if you havent alreadytheres not a ton of research yet but as of now the research that has been done does not show evidence of worse covid19 outcomes due to asthmathe asthma and allergy foundation has good straightforward current info and a qa with an allergistimmunologist who chairs the foundations medical science council I found his responses informative and his advice seems sensible and proactive without being panickedhttpscommunityaafaorgblogcoronavirus2019ncovfluwhatpeoplewithasthmaneedtoknowtake good care and be well huh theres no inhaler emoji|1 Respecting the commenter Just violence is permitted|0 Good for herThe US needs to do more to help their citizens and prevent spread Especially because they failed so miserably with the latter|0 I wonder if this could this end up compromising the ability of people who recover to fight off the normal flu|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 To be fair they are part of a group that regularly travels across the state and into canada All the while coming into contact with other teams that do the same 100 agree with the decision to test them all and postpone after finding out to limit any spread It may seem privileged but its just proper use of the sadly limited amount of tests we have available If there were more wed do more|0 just very recently but lets be real he is not saying stay home I mean hes not really saying dont go to work we need to stay home These are the things that are required if we want to contain this Eventually he will he will have to but hes not doing it yet|1 What is health care supposed to do in this scenario Id love to know how our health care system is supposed to stop the spread Its supposed to stop people from dying and make sure they get the right treatment which I guess it has so far with 0615 cases ending in death|1 For most of February pretty much every western health and political authority was telling everyone dont worry its fine its just a flu And then people believed them Now theyre finding out what us here knew all along and theyre not believing it because believing requires accepting that basically every emergency authority either was dramatically wrong or lied and they dont want to accept that|0 Im a diabetic and also am on an immunosuppressant So your comment just put me a little bit more at ease Thanks|1 Sadly yes I know because it happened to me Xmas in Manhattan Sick a few days later Maybe Im just hoping because I survived|1 I live in Portugal and no one listen to me my boyfriend do not at first but now he do|0 Yes it has It is a giant hatefest now instead of reporting cases in new areas how people should be preparing if there are cases near them alternate ways of getting goods that are in shortage now etc|1 Then they could publish the numbers of deaths by pneumonia This seems as easy or difficult as publishing the numbers of deaths that are confirmed cases|1 Its too late the average poor factory worker in hubei was only traveling because of their 1 single holiday that they get per a year Americans criss cross the country every weekend for every minor reasons|0 I hear you Ive just been seeing and hearing a lot of bullshit lately thank you for being reasonable |0 Their aim is to slow the spread so that NHS will not become overwhelmed Theres no controversy in this Flattening the curve or squashing the sombrero to quote Johnson is what virtually every other country is doingThe controversy is that the Johnson administration was as of last Thursday also advocating a herd immunity approach where by we deliberately dont do as much to slow the spread and somehow just isolate the most vulnerable sections of society from its effects while letting everyone else become infected|0 Federal loans have easy forbearance so you can freeze your payments very easily By removing the interest theres no penalty to do so|1 Thanks for posting this Ive been wondering how many cases of unspecified flu cases have showed up Im also wondering how many cases of unspecified pneumonia have showed up this season too I think it pneumonia fatalities turn up higher this year we can assume COVID19 is the reason|0 Look at China now in regards to people seeing it through Its too early to calculate CFR and any number given now is wrong|0 Walk wheeze walk wheeze walk wheeze run out of oxygen grey out collapse|0 Everyones lungs and heart decline as you age Ie a constant heart rate that is dangerous for an 80 year is often not dangerous for a 25yearold The vast majority of young people will be fine without any help Many old people will die without any help|0 weird flex but okay|1 Where were you six months ago Get your flu shot as early as possible when its released Usually shortly after Thanksgiving It takes up to 14 days to get the immunity after vaccination|0 Uptick in medical calls for sure and even calls of people in mental health crisis scared of the virus but nothing too far out of the ordinary covid related ie people being stabbed for TP in stores or people dropping in the streets hopefully things stay that way but were prepared regardless The biggest change is we are asking all callers requesting contact if anyone at the residence has a fever cough or shortness of breath to warn responding officers and EMTs|0 Pensa che io ho avuto tra dicembre e gennaio un febbrone io non mi ammalo spesso toccando anche una volta i 40 gradi Tosse che non mi sentivo piu i polmoni Dopo tre settimane sono guarito Detto questo ho ancora un po di tosse ma non penso di preoccuparmi tanto daltra parte siamo nel bel mezzo della stagione dellinfluenza speriamo bene per te i tuoi cari e per tutti noi Ps sono di Milano|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Flu is doing the sweep again at least near me|0 Healthcare professional in the Emergency Room so as someone whos actually treating these patients Id say pretty fucking qualifiedIm not trying to be crass but as you can imagine things are tense Making it seem like its gonna be a whole hell of a lot worse is NOT HELPING|0 The amount of people at my job that have plans on taking trips and not canceling is insane|1 Pollution in urban areas compared to unpolluted air probably has a more negative effect on health than most weeks smoking a few and some weeks smoking half a dozenI do the same thing with chocolate and coffee where Ill have a few coffees and bits of chocolate a week or half a dozen a week Theyre bad for you but a tiny amount has a negligible difference on health Theres far more defining things that can make a difference to my health of eating loads of super foods getting better sleep etcIts just like alcohol When are we going to start shaming people who drink alcohol and ranting about how bad it is for you and covering them with ugly brown labels and pictures of liver disease and how everyone has to entirely quit drinking alcohol|0 Prisons in the USA are overcrowded as well My county jail is holding half again as many prisoners as it was designed to hold|0 I cant find it now But there was a discussion around a 20something who had it and took 20 days to get over it and required hospitalization So I think its not as simple as old and weak are the only ones to be concerned Also I wouldnt exactly trust any reports in these early days The first claims were there was no human to human transmission and we see how that turned out I think a good approach would be cautious and watch|0 no this is standard chinese behavior this is what happens when you have a cultural revolution that leaves you devoid of normal societal moral standardsits not an ethnic chinese thing Other areas with large ethnic chinese populations dont behave this way its a cultural societal mainland chinese thing|0 if youre smart go and stock up not tomorrow NOW i did it the day before all this shit started just by chance You can never now when it start You only know it will at some point|0 Ive seen the same in my suburban area Im legit scared after seeing what I have seen this weekend with people being defiant about it and going out in droves People I know who are actively sick with some bug going out all day to restaurants and all over town Shit is bad|0 But the people in charge of the US said that anyone who wanted a test got oneLeaders used to get dragged through the mud for blatantly lying to the public|0 Thanks for the reminder to get this up and running Got fH and boinc both on my headless linux vm running 247 |1 It has significant implications for my risk in NC our first confirmed case visited the Life Care Center and came back home to my city with the virusFloriida gets a lot of travellers|1 Hubei was quarantined on Jan 23rd though and it takes 3 weeks to kill people So last week of Feb is right around when deaths should have been starting to drop anyway Im not saying youre wrong but its hard to really make much of that without seeing the data on infections|0 Also working Retail Clothing Our footfall is down hard Say 30 or more down on last year Weve moved into the hours are going to be cut phase But there has also been so much downplaying from Management|0 Private companies doing it is one thing we expect it and because theyre private entities theyre allowed to do it its scummy af but thats why customers always scrutinize what they sayGovernments doing it is just sad yet I bet its somewhat effective against gullible people who arent aware of these types of folks And Im not talking about campaign trails where they go out of their way to say bullshit to you but rather the government hiring people to act like average Joes to shill relentlessly for the government|0 Truth lol Asians have flawless skin and awesome hair Both had a full set of hair when born and never lost it lmbo it did help Thank you |1 Depression|0 This is a quite interesting theory If it started spreading in schools the parents would be most affected Children wouldnt show strong symptoms so it can spread wide before it is detectedCould explain why Germany has low fatality rate as well perhaps it spread in schools first|0 Now for testing for the presence of coronavirus in Russia PCR diagnostics are used which applies only to patients with a clinical picture of coronavirus Newly developed test systems must be certified which can take half a year The only test system used in Russia uses blood and patients must have the release of viral particles into the blood which means a severe and late phase of the disease And for example the Chinese test system uses a swab from the nasopharynx where the virus is present at an early stage of the disease when there are no symptoms of the disease But probably they didnt waste time on certification and recently started using the Chinese test system which immediately showed an increase in casesBorders with some countries is closing The Ministry of Education recommended switching to distance learning Probably soon as in other countries quarantine will be introducedNobody rushing stores for toilet paper yet but some people reported about lack of sanitizers Me personally dont see any panic but for the same reason people are in no hurry to wear masks|0 Thats not really true in China people dont have very large houses so its common to chill with friends in common areas outside such as parks peoples squares etc|1 I feel like this is what everyone needs to do But right now Not after your first death|0 No my hypothesis is that there COULD be I hope your right I really do I havent seen any human to human cases popping up so thats nice Yet again though they could just be at home trying to work through it on their own And on the idea of them dying who is going to have the idea of testing them for the virus And if they do an autopsy how would the ME know to ask for the test|1 Just to let you know in case you did want to watch some of his videos in the comments section there are translations in English The community has been really great translating for us who cant understand Also some people have shared links in the comments section of translated videos Heres one of the main ones about him being scared of the government the end really gets you in the feels httpsyoutube7AI3R41dGnUThis YouTube channel has a few of his videos translated for you as well|1 Im actually going work full time and school part time to open a motorcycle shop with a buddy of mine Try and work for myself and not make some asshole rich You know Ive actually considered moving out to the Ohio areamiddle US More leaning towards northern New Mexico Lol yeah I think they tried to unionize my company a few years ago but it didnt gain any momentum Because we are at Will employees or whatever people got fired Crazy world|0 Im in exactly the same situation right now Ill need to travel interstate to get there too|0 Good luck my guy|1 Yeah dont want to interrupt the smell|1 Yup people be praising ccp like they the best dude they wisk people away and noone will ever know they arrested you You will just dissapear|1 Relying on children to constantly practice social distancing What could go wrong|0 Youll get about 35 of your electricity costs back lol Gridcoin is not intended to be profitable Its about contributing to science|1 Look on the bright side at least there was no chance of someone accidentally sliding into you or getting backed up in traffic|1 Speaking of being informed please do your homework Flu fatality rate 01COVID19 rate 1 see koreaSARS rate 10My 6yr old can tell me which COVID19 is closer to can youlinkhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronaviruscomparedtosarsswineflumerszika202033famp|0 Oh weird Philadelphia almost didnt cancel it But finally did|0 But the addition of such noise would require the approval of a level 5 bureaucrat or higher Notmyjobjpeg|1 Maybe he just like Tekken|1 Freeballing Yeah lets just do nothing and let FOX News watcher cough all over everybody|1 Ha ha ha oh not to worry my friend thank you for your kind concern but everything is under control|1 First it was a one time heated and combative tweet from one of the Chinese spokesmen to National Security Adviser Robert OBrien shifting the blame of Americans slow and below minimal responselack of testing delay and obstructionhttpsnewsyahoocomseattlelabuncoveredwashingtonscoronavirus053628224html for the virus outbreak to ChinaSecond no Chinese politicians supports the ideanarrative that the virus originates from outside of China or from USAlack of testing delay and obstructionA Seattle lab uncovered Washingtons coronavirus outbreak only after defying federal regulatorshttpsnewsyahoocomseattlelabuncoveredwashingtonscoronavirus053628224htmlA lack of test kits for the new COVID19 coronavirus is still obscuring the extent of the outbreak in the US but for a critical period in February there were no functional federal tests and local officials across the country were left to work blindly as the crisis grew undetected and exponentiallyWe felt like we were sitting waiting for the pandemic to emerge Chu told the Times We could help We couldnt do anythinggather data and doing testsThey held off for a couple of weeks but on Feb 25 Chu and her colleagues began performing coronavirus tests without government approval the Times reports They found a positive case pretty quickly and after discussing the ethics they told state health officials who confirmed the next day that a teenager who hadnt traveled abroad had COVID19 and the virus had likely been spreading undetected throughout the Seattle area for weeks Later that day the CDC and FDA told Chu and her colleagues to stop testing then partially relented and the lab found several more cases On Monday night they were ordered to stop testing againIn the days since the teenagers test the Seattle region has spun into crisis with dozens of people testing positive and at least 22 dying the Times notes The scientists said they believe that they will find evidence that the virus was infecting people even earlier and that they could have alerted authorities sooner if they had been allowed to test|0 Is it really so hard to just chill for a month or two No the party must happen|0 cool sigma aldrich is not a great place to buy such chemicals normally but it is the one i normally check first|0 Same here I dont work in a healthcare facility but there is a public health element to what I do along with exposure to a variety of higher risk and likely vector populations were a likely secondary or tertiary outbreak location wont go further because of the shit I post on reddit Theres outright resistance in our upper management to acknowledge the COVID19 situation at all partly out of imageconsciousness about masks and partly outright denial It was an unscheduled topic of discussion at our last full staff meeting on a surprising number of peoples radar and the only constructive outcome was the already active stay home if youre sick which in practice usually doesnt happen at our workplace The story of Noah comes to mind cant change minds thst arent receptive and when your community is like that youre on your own All thats left is to build your arc and wait |1 Seriously Anything over 100 is considered big|0 Theres none I havent heard any news of false positivities or negatives in British media they havent verified accuracy of are tests or let us know if were using another countries test kitsit might be lab testing Im not sure it just seems theyre doing the bare minimum|1 In addition to the theory about ACE2 receptors ibuprofen suppresses the immune responsex200BThough I cant say how much it applies to coronavirus there is also this study from the past regarding using NSAIDs in lower respiratory tract infections httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6617416httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6617416 From the conclusion NSAIDs are frequently used as a symptomatic treatment during lower respiratory tract infections LRTIs in adults and children while neither clinical data nor guidelines encourage this use Numerous observational series of CAP inpatients support a strong association between a prehospital NSAID exposure and a protracted and complicated course of pneumonia These data should encourage experts and scientific societies to strongly advise against the use of NSAIDs in the management of LRTIs|1 Bruh threat of WWIII and a Pandemic in 2 months 2020 came in swinging|0 Leave room for nature|0 I believe that it is calculated But their initial assumptions are wrong Ford is trying to expand icu beds today You may hold off on lockdown and other societal measures if you are running a time dependent social exercise in which the subjects feed back into the formula But icu beds dont feedback You do that as soon as you realize whats coming No Im pretty sure theyre way behind or have been completely unaware of the scope all along|1 Yeah man plague inc is an accurate portrayal of how this works Im glad 15 year olds on the internet keep bringing it up|1 They are throwing the bodies into the steel plant furnacesLiterally what i read on a friends FB earlierEdit Dunno why Im being voted for stating something stupid a conspiracy minded friend posted on his FB|0 Its misinformation because the confirmed global mortality is 34 That is confirmed not taking into account severity and lack of available bedsJust because you are at low risk doesnt mean you should spread this information You getting sick puts at risk everyone around you Stop spreading lies try to stay informed and spread truth and knowledge so we can all be properly prepared|0 Actually my parents finally began prepping today while I have for 2 months now and they said there were just about 7 other people filling their carts to the top with everything from meds to foods|1 Looks like a typical day in hospital in Britain|1 Obviously because its the worlds most highly populated country by a large marginNot a large margin at all vs India Wikipedia statsChina population 1427647786 India population 1352642280Butyou keep trying to mince words and be dishonest that China is the worlds 1 polluter|0 If they pump money perhaps it wont drop but it will stagnante|1 The Wisconsin Department of Health Services DHS is reporting the first case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus 2019 nCOV in WisconsinAccording to Wisconsin DHS the patient came into contact with a confirmed case in China The Wisconsin patient was in mainland China within the past two weeks The Wisconsin patient is currently in isolationThe patient received evaluation and testing at UW Hospital in Madison but didnt require hospitalizationSourcehttpswwwnbc26comnewsstatewisconsinhealthdepartmentreportsfirstcoronaviruscaseinstateBNO Newsroom confirmation httpstwittercombnodeskstatus1225142200553627648s21|1 Lets hope the curve sets in soon|1 I know its like If I havent seen it on CNN yet it never happened Is this limited to people who dont spend their lives online like I do Is it limited maybe to people from the boomer generation who grew up trusting Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw and believe that if anything important was happening their nightly news anchor would inform them I really dont get it how our friends and coworkers could be so willfully ignorant And its these same nonbelievers who are going to catch it spread it and who are putting me and my family at risk|1 Partial Right Bundle Blocks are normal in young peopleStay home until your symptoms subside even if it is corona virus staying away from other people until you are no longer contagious is the best thing to doGo back to hospital if you feel worse but what if you tested positive and they told you to stay home what would change|1 No this useless concept has prevailed in Australia long before the pandemic They wouldnt wear a mask even they caught a bad cold Theyre still practicing their beliefs Australia is a very dangerous place to visit now|0 I was responding to a general comment about the government being shady but yes I believe our government is currently taking steps to control the narrative about how bad this virus is and how quickly it has spread in the US Trump is currently in charge So either hes just a figurehead with no real authority or hes telling them to cover it up as best as they can Pick whichever one you prefer|1 Thank you so much for this suggestion heard and will implement tonight|1 An Asian student was recently attacked in the UK for wearing a face mask in public so sadly this is probably true|0 Friday FRIDAY Im staying home from tomorrow if I can help it We should all follow the example of Poland my friend got a month off from school and theres only 25 cases there meanwhile people are out and about in my county going to workthe gym before getting their diagnosis and nobody is batting an eyelid|1 Apologies I misread your initial post I thought it was a customer who had come in with a fever not a coworker Yeah its definitely a lack of paid sick days that causes people to come in sick|0 Ur telling me If I buy a rental a flight and a hotel on my travel CC and the flight is cancelled or im not allowed to fly I wont get my money back I dunno bro|0 a typical day at the gym would see me in shorts and a vest or T Shirt last 2 visits Ive worn a full tracksuit with the hood up a pair of gloves and a packet of Dettol Anti Bacterial wipes I seem to be the only person bothered and that has changed their routineIve been told im going way overboard I just respond withx200BFail To PreparePrepare To Fail|0 If showing them the emergency order doesnt work you could even threaten to bring a lawsuit|0 Hand sanitizer is effective when properly formulated The entire international healthcare community uses it daily|1 They will play the nationality card those stupidass Italians to be honest I have never been more proud of my original country they are facing this with a lot of seriousness|1 No data on that but its likely less accurate than the current tests RTPCR assays Usually the fast tests are less accurate molecular and antigen Of course you can always quarantine after a fast test then do a more accurate test if necessary to confirm like for a doctor who is really needed at work a regular person might just chill for two weeks if they can|1 Its entire lifetime Will this person get cancer at some point in their lives or notMutations and cancer are a random event so it could potentially happen at any point but its more likely later in life when there has been more time for genetic damage and mutations to accumulate|0 I mean knowing how many people are on the ship beds being shared close quarters long work hours Yeah if it gets on the ship its spreading no contest Now that they see it as a threat to our national safety maybe theyll do something Full MOPP gear 247 unless youre taking a dump|0 I have no trust in the numbers the chinese are giving us let alone what seems to be propaganda|1 Pretty sure these are proChina shills|1 I am much less worried about getting sick and dying than I am the socioeconomic and geopolitical fallout if this goes global If the global financial system fractures more could die from that than the virus|0 it will limite the spread of the virus therefore limiting deaths and economic damageBut hey we cant stop now but we will later in the worst possible way so smart s|0 Thanks for sharing this link|1 Whats the point Youll forget that we patted you next week|0 You can wiped the packages with alcohol based wipes or other disinfectants You can pour boiling water on fresh produce such as apples or oranges then remove skin and eat I used to wash lettuce with a soap bar but then I did realize its too timeconsuming and just stopped eating all kinds of lettuces all together You can also cook vegetables to make 100 sure theyre virusfree|1 Im American Just like Canadians but with more backbone and freedom|1 Boom 10101 infected|0 Now your employees should donate Really Like people have money to spare|1 I m sure at least some of them are from China One of them finally leave reply to me in simplified Chinese with foul language when he cannot deny the fact that Chinese government hide the information about the virus for the whole Dec and Jan|1 The enlightenment with its focus on the individual was a European movement Sweden often ranks as the most individualistic country on the planet Granted the USA was in many ways a product of the enlightenment and is very individualistic but if you think Europe is one culture and that culture leans collectivistic youre very ignorant|0 Fuck these vultures|0 are you just looking for information to worry about lets just do a little math deathsallcases is 35 deaths2029 is 02 so 2029 die at a rate thats only 5 as big as the overall average if serious cases are 20 closest thing to a medical intervention stat then 2029 might be 5 of that or 1 of 2029s require interventionagain this is a math extrapolation exercise not a direct reading of the data which I couldnt findSo youre anticipating a scenario where healthcare completely breaks down and no one can be treated Youre catastrophizing Its not healthy Focus on handwashing and practice not touching your face It sounds so trite but amazingly effective|0 There are 105 infected people in NY and at least 7 labs testing everybody who is either suspected to have the virus or those who came in contact with infected people thats how 80 were detected in Westchester County According to Cuomo those 7 labs are state owned but they are waiting for CDC to approve private labs who are ready to test already That being said neither NY state site or CDC posted updated numbers so reporting is still lagging by at least a day|0 Oh look everybody Yet another Americahating thread on this subreddit Nobody is surprised|1 Theyre vulnerable or overreact because they have a preexisting medical condition its not rocket scienceSource|0 Yeah it isnt even the only type of vaccine currently under developmentBut they just skipped animal trials like always happens in cases like this and went right to human trials Making those human subjects really heroes It kind of cant be understated that they could be saving so many livesBut how is society going to be reshaped in the meantime|1 i was pretty sure i got the swine flu back when it happened i was in mexico right when it was exploding and i got the worst flu of my life at the end of the trip lost 20 pounds in a week|0 Yeah headline is very misleading|0 All they had to say is we tested him and are awaiting results the turn around is 4 days If they didnt test him they say we were advised to wait to test because it is too early to detect and we did not want to waste time and effort when others need these test kits we will administer a test in a few days|1 Better than other countries true However its a bit disappointing when people who came back from Tirol a week ago and have symptoms can not get tested Apparently its not a high risk zone meaning they are still lacking testing kits|1 Ultimately this is the fault of costco Even my local grocery store has a sigm that customers can buy only one package of cleaning wipes or sanitizer per day|0 Dunno Cant leave kids with no care though Perhaps with recovered people if we have enough Or with the 80 mild cases Bloody hell No good answer is there|0 dont panic mr mainwaring|1 In VT they have done a whopping 3 tests 3 115 are being monitored for symptoms Clearly there is no test widely available|1 But theyre also treating with immune suppressing drugsThats not necessarily a net lossSometimes the side effects make treatments|1 Good job|1 Darwin FTW|1 Correct It triggered whats referred to as POTS wasnt until recently they found good evidence suggesting it as an autoimmune disorder Oddly enough my sister was diagnosed with the same condition years later However she did not contract swine Sort of interesting|1 Thank you |1 If you tested everyone with flu symptoms you would backlog the CDC They are smartly prioritizing cases that have a logical connection to the outbreak You need to be realistic And testing everyone with flu symptoms isnt So far the CDC seems to have this under control There are no cases of people who havent been to the source of the outbreak|0 Weve got information about the virus We know how to keep from getting the flu so crank those measures up to 10x Maybe we do need guidance but its not coming from the top so we have to do it ourselves Do what is best for you and your family and then look around to see who needs help Do you know a healthcare worker Ask them if you can help them somehow I think this will be much easier than what we give ourselves credit for There are rough times ahead but we can beat this if we all work together|1 Right but we were discussing geopolitical alignment It is hard for me to understand what Moon is trying to achieve on that front At this point Koreas security and economic relationship with Japan is endangered due to the comfort women issue etc and his proposals for a commercial connection to China through North Korea seem unrealistic to say the least The traditional security arrangement in the region has been weakening for a whileIts not only his fault of course the Abe government in Japan has pushed a wellknown nationalistic lineIn any case the relationship between the US South Korea and Japan is increasingly complex unlike the rosy picture of staunch allies etc which the previous poster tried to convey There are also economic issues which you are undoubtedly aware of|1 Where are you getting the 13 years number from As this is a novel virus its not possible for those kinds of numbers to have been observed yet|1 Sad how the admins promotes it|0 My guess is that Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was a super spreading cluster starting from November More than 80 of people who visited there were infected and started spreading all over Wuhan In Italy although the first infected started as early as November there was not a cluster as large as Huanan|0 Commenting so I can see the research as well We have a two month old|1 If hospitals in the Philippines are not overrun in the next three weeks then heat and humidity help a lot|1 yes good Question Im able to work from home I know most are not Id say join a Union but it is probably not very helpful right now Id say for those in risk groups over 50 Diabetes high BP etc should speak to your employers hopefully theyll understand The government wont react while there is still profit to be made so you need to take the bull by the horns|1 Lol but probably true|1 I got an email that Down Dog made their fitness apps free until April 1st due to the coronavirus httpswwwdowndogappcomhttpswwwdowndogappcom That said if you have flu like symptoms then you are advised not to exercise|1 It was also successive changes in legislation that allowed American banks to bundle mortgage debts and trade them like assets|1 I agree regarding those at the top of the political echelons in any event Im not too confident in the cronies they appoint through nepotism however Either way they have and will have a great deal to answer for and will likely continue with impunity if history is any indicator Its beyond disgusting Corruption at its finest|1 Lots of people trusted Jim Bakker too and look how that turned out|1 Its almost as if private business is more efficient and better run than government|1 Wanna go gym StayTheFuckHome Wanna go shopping StayTheFuckHome Wanna go park StayTheFuckHome Wanna stay home Sta Yes|1 I believe 20 of the infected will need to be hospitalized And if you believed that calico cats grant wishes would that be true too NoThere certainly will be a strain placed on our hospitals and they may well be brought to and past the breaking point by 5 of the infected who will require hospitalization And as the number of infected will be so high 5 is a helluva lot of people That alone will probably put us over the edge to fall in into Holy Shittsville That part is certainly trueBut its not 20 okay This thing will be bad way worse than anything we have ever experienced in our lives It sucks the whole world over But no not 20 5 is more than bad enough when that percentage is of a very large number to start with The 20 number concerning Covid 19 is the number which refers to people having more than a minor fever It will be an illness requiring several days in bed and a high degree of unpleasantness Many are reporting 35 days of high fever sore throat and coughing so much that it ends up straining and hurting their chest and back muscles a lot It is not a nice illness to have at all At allStill only a portion of those people will develop bilateral interstitial pneumonia Thats the opportunistic lung infection that requires hospitalization and a ventilator Thats the disease which is killing the vast majority of those who die from complications arising from Covid 19 there are also some instances of cardiopulmonary embolism and organ failure among the vulnerable but those are relatively rare the vast number of dangerous cases deal with bilateral interstitial pneumonia|0 By my logic I didnt express an opinion What those words mean legally is an objective fact Spend one minute googling the term|1 The next WHO press conference should consist of a live stream of every one of the 245000 members of this cult being summarily rounded up and executed before being buried in a deep mass grave to prevent propagation of this virusJust wait till ISIS figures out this little trick and starts sending martyrs around fuck me|0 affected countiresfixed thanks|1 Youre not missing anything We will most likely get many many cases from Americans Money over people I suppose|1 If it makes you feel better Iranian elections are a step above DPRK electionsIf DPRK ever had elections|1 Are you serious Where|0 Wouldnt vinegar be a decent disinfectant as wellno nobody recommends vinegar to kill viruses except mom blogs Sorry to be terse but you are getting a concerning amount of upvotes and I have seen this come up before The EPA addressed this recently httpsabcnewsgocomPoliticsepareleaseslistdisinfectantproductsapprovedkillcovidstoryid69412861httpsabcnewsgocomPoliticsepareleaseslistdisinfectantproductsapprovedkillcovidstoryid69412861|0 Running a marathon is a great way to weaken your immune system for a while|1 Gonna be honest some of that sounds conspiracy theoryish but what I take from your bullet points is that he may have been receiving antibiotics prophylactically to cover the chance of acquiring a bacterial infection in the hospital or that he may have had a concurrent bacterial infection along with the coronavirus but they couldnt test for itSounds strange to me I know you say you treat pneumonia each day but you dont communicate like a medical practitioner|1 Did not know this website existed Thank you for posting this|1 Free market can adapt with time But international demand right now is already over production capacity So there are shortages As china is recovering industrial production will be increased indeed and demand lowered|1 I would really encourage you to go small and go slow As with nausea due to medical issues there is some though that eating small bites of something every few minutes can help get things down So instead of looking at it as you have to eat a full meal and it takes an hour to get it down think about whether you can try to eat a bite here and a bite there around the clockx200BSorry I am having posting issues here and will write more soon but am going to see if this worked as is|1 I think the big difference is that its common to have elderly live with you in asia and remain part of the nuclear family and to support your parents in their retirement while they provide childcare So most people have someone in their household in immediate danger|0 If you wear mask and never touch your face without washing it first you almost will never get it since its been proven that it infect primarily by way of dropletStill if you eat out a lot then theres a good chance you will get it eventually|1 As far as I remember the lemon party one was even older but Im sure as fuck not googling it to find out|0 The numbers vary 6 is a median number That said I urge you to see the forest thru the trees and not focus on an arbitrary and variable estimate its accepted as the worst epidemic in modern history|0 So yes|1 Grazie for the update stay safe out there friend|1 I keep repeating it they are lying to you to save money not lives|0 Yep but a day late and a penny short Let us pray|1 Fuck yes I dont understand this bizzare holdout on the information This is an unprecedented global event and not revealing basic information like number and location of the infection can literally cost lives Wtf is your issue FDH|0 Following this israel had just announced that events of more then 100 people arent allowed Some universites has cancelled lectures for tommarow while others had moved all lectures of more then 100 people online This also means that all weddings over 100 peoplealmost all israeli wedding over 100 people will probably have to be cancelledFlight companies had fired a huge amount of personal while other companies like accountans for flights have done the same There is no out or in to the countryAnd thats just in israel people need to understand already how severe the virus is its basically slowly destroying worldwide econimcs Even if the virus will stop right now the world will take years to recover economically espically when china a huge manfuctar of goods worldwide had been hit so hard Tourisem is badically dead and countries that relay on it found with no income Take this seriously people I really hope america will take this more seriously before it will destroy the economics there|0 Well I was able to send mine but looking at tracking its making its way back to me Hope you have better luckEdit correction its queuing in JFK airport now|1 Saw the links There is a difference though since those are about the agencies following the guidelines they had at the time about who to test or not None of the articles talks about how those who have been confirmed ill are not getting proper treatment after having been confirmed ill as you claimed|0 A Swedish pundit discussion yesterday asserted that Lombardy no longer allocates intensive care units to over60 Covid19 patientsJust because it was said authoritatively by a generally conservative public figure doesnt make it true They may not even have had time to establish one uniform policy But it would be a sensible triage|0 Dollar general is not a dollar store It is just a discount grocery chainIt is a dollar storeYou are confusing dollar store with everything costs one dollar storeA variety store also pound shop dollar store and other names is a retail store that sells a wide range of inexpensive household goodshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiVarietystore|0 Other than asking if wed been to China in the last 14 days because there are no outbreaks in any other country|0 Hey we are in the same boat No one is wearing a mask in Europe If China is watching they must be really mindblown|0 A recent experiment show this could be airborne for up to three hours Its questionable the way they nubulized in the test But it was definitely measured in the air after 3hr|1 But what about the droid attack on the wookies|0 Their ilk believes this is a hoax so they should be fine s|0 And how is that not fear mongering|1 It would be nice to see the rest of the world unite and punish China for all of this but it wont happen|0 And one of them collapsed Its not a safe idea|0 Good on him|1 Are the people of US complaining about lack of testing or is everybody just silent on this situation In Estonia goverment is always critized and people command proper action on situations like these|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Lol fuck slaughterhouses This all started because of slaughterhouses I really dont care if they become affected from this thats just karma So whats your solution Infecting everyone The US is going to end up worse than Italy because were not even testing everyone I believe everyone should have 2 weeks of paid sick time If society has to stop for awhile then thats the administrations fault for sticking their heads in the sand and hoping that this just goes away until its too late Having sick people continue working is the most absurd thing Theyre just going to make it worse by spreading it|0 Thats exactly what they are planning as far as I know Companies are urged to let their employees work from home as much as possible of course its not possible in all professions Theres a gigantic public health drive just launching right now and thats something this government is really good at huge centrally planned campaigns|1 Can I download some toilet paperIm asking for a friend|1 What an utterly stupid and ill thought response The health workers ARE doing their jobs Its not up to polies to do testing The health department advise the government They are already stretched Have some bloody sense|0 No european union is fine until someone is in actual trouble then they fuck you in the ass or just leave you aloneAsk our greek friends they know smt about it|0 They are trying to get themselves put into the old peoples wills before the virus gets to themIf it only works a few times then they will make out like a banditBrilliant strategy|1 You really think killing every dog who might have been exposed is better|0 You cant bring your own red pen into the voting booth Or maybe private ownership of red pens has been banned i DPRK|0 Ummmm because our healthcare system is overall fckd Incompetence of people not knowing what they are doing in all departments|0 something something broken clock twice a day|0 The only reason Im going in is because I dont want to let my colleagues down as they would be the ones to cover me and theyre already at burn out stage themselves Please put your own health first Giving birth will be difficult enough in this environment|1 There no question of believe Ask her if she really wants risk to kill all those people in the house|0 This information has already been posted Only repost articles if they have not been previously submitted or add useful context content that was not in the other article If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowPlease read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|1 Politicians will wait until its too late This because of their friends risking to lose big money and fear of losing votes and because its in human nature to be dumb and then panic when its too lateThe ONLY exception is if they are smart enough to learn from others mistakes In that case it will be bad very bad but not too badSource im italian|0 Believe you me Youre not alone in this feeling|1 Looks like St Louis and NYC finally are getting these up and running Waiting for LA to get its shit together|0 Superb initiative thanks for sharing|1 Well not really Ironically the good thing about Ebola is that onset is so fast and acute that patients will be bedridden or die preventing them from infecting many other people|1 I work at a school board and so far nothing that I know of has been sent home recommending ppl not to travel Im betting we will have no room at hospitals by April|0 Thanks for posting this Pretty shocking stuff|1 Yeah Im seeing runners who have had their races cancelled organize big group runs to get together and run the distance anyway Like guys the entire fucking point of canceling the race was to not have big groups of people running together|1 I saw on Kxan or Kvue that a lot of people with symptoms were going to the hospitals to get tested but were not because they didnt travel to an infected country WE ARE AN INFECTED COUNTRY I live in Pflugerville and i deal with many people that travel out of country and state If i get sick im going to raise hell Hope you get well soon neighbor|0 Case in points its summer in Australia where Tom Hanks got sick|0 I mean its not though Is something better than nothing Obviously yes is that something the best you deserve Far fucking from it|1 Are Mexicans immune to Coronavirus Wouldnt they all die too in this scenario|1 They stopped being communists since DengIts effectively a capitalistic meritocratic plutocracy nowIts the same as the Japanese being thought of as mindless automatons under a feudal lordemperor during world war 2Japan and China are economically number 2 to the US and so the US media prints and encourages these sort of pro US anti ChinaJapan propaganda which really are infact manufactured consent and bias The joke is that in North Korea people have to be forced to listen to propaganda all day for it to work In the US they willingly accept it instead|0 They are too busy pleasuring themselves over the new Mulan movie|1 I like it its cute|1 But youre absolutely spot on this is going to look really shit for the CCP if people only die in ChinaIt will likely have zero effect on their iron fist rule though|0 Very frustrating seeing people insisting the UK government is doing nothing when theyve issued several requests for change in behaviour now|0 All I cared about was the email discussing removal of the data cap from Xfinity|1 Look up recipes that you make a batch of dough that keeps up to 2 weeksyou dont have to knead its just 4 ingredients and you take a hunk off when you need and bake it Simple delicious and cheap|1 I think many people dont understand how unpredictable and volatile this disease can be Ive seen news reports of people being mild with simply just a runny nose and a sore throat with no fever While others have full blown pneumonia and need oxygen It truly has a somewhat unpredictable nature that just needs to be dealt with on a step by step basis|0 I understand that we really shot ourselves in the foot by cutting CDC funding and have no plan for the inevitability that this becomes a more serious pandemic in the US but goddamn what is pissing me off more than anything else is the general apathy to the disease spreading now and doing absolutely nothing to impede the spread of it I work food service in a major city centrally located between 3 major sports stadiums and several other musicconcert venues and we are getting ready for our baseball teams opening day celebration and my managers are more concerned with making sure the menu is easy enough for the kitchen to handle dealing with easily 400 customers rather than the potential that 1400 people will bring this virus to our restaurant The fact that in the middle of a global health epidemic sports stadiums are even allowed to open their doors is abhorrent Even my coworkers had the audacity to say that Im being overlyparanoid for stocking up on nonperishable foods and PPE supplies meanwhile the entire nation of Italy was placed on a nationwide lockdown today It absolutely astounds me how people have no regard for the gravity of this situation|0 Oh OK Thank you I wasnt too far off but its good to know the real numbers|1 Bro I feel you my boomers are late 60s Ive been warning them what is coming since January But they see me as a little kid still and refuse to listen Until this week when they finally stocked up Keep talking to them make them listen the risks are too high and its going to blow up in a few weeksI wish you all the best|1 I am working with what they give me I agree with you if it is any consolation|1 They also probably dont have a bunch of people throwing temper tantrums because the dont like the leader of their country|0 A lot of places are encouraging being outdoors A sunny beach is probably not terribly risky as the virus half life in the sun outside is very short As long as people stay 2 meters away I say keep it open from 10 am until 2 pm on sunny days|1 Airlines have been making billions of dollars in profits for years|1 Thanks that clears things up|1 What the actual fuck is that going to do Does corona only come out to play during those hours|0 The viral load theory is logical In additional to high viral load exposure is a weakened immune system from severe sleep deprivation during the outbreak Dr Robert Seheult MD in the MedCram Coronavirus Epidemic Update 16 video talks in detail about case studies where sleep had a large impact on immune response|0 Bezos is also encouraging Whole Foods employees to share their sick time Such a good guy|1 I saw flights to Beijing from Vancouver for 610 Canadian dollars this morning You probably wont be allowed to come back for a while but it will probably be easy to find free places to live soon|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Doctors nurses and in general health providers have ALWAYS had it worst when it comes to infectious diseases Its a combination of being exposed to massive infectious doses a biased exposition to more virulent strains if applicable and most importantly work exhaustion and that make them more prey to diseases Its been so ever since monks were exterminated by the Black plague in the 14th century|0 Except they are going to be forced to once members start getting sick thanks to their schedule staffers and lobbyists intense travel schedule|0 No they cancelled it too I was supposed to head out Thursday evening and camp out till Sunday There were a few events that still went on last night but the main shendig shut down|0 Signed Completely agree|1 So people with no income and no savings are going to get sued for back rent when all this is over and end up in massive debt|0 A Friend of mine 71 HAS TO WORK She is at Walmart and they will not cut back her hours or change her schedule 40 She is exhausted It is between that or as they told her let go 74 myself I just cannot comprehend how many millions billions is enough Of course I am naive|1 I saw I got scolded over email by an UK company today for asking them if we can delay a training thereI would have to go through Germany and cant even get a flight ffs Everything is cancelled|0 We call it koronaferie here since its two weeks exactly as long as the winter breakSome teachers will continue to give tasks over that time period over on platforms like Messenger so its not like we have free time but koronaferie are koronaferie and Ill take any time to play video games gladly|1 They really said that cardboard kills the virus|0 Exactly and its not like they experienced the most devastating pandemic in human history why not learn a thing or two from their containment practices|0 hey do you think this is a good idea httpsmediumcomOptemizationletsbuildacovid19selfreportingtool3933046f96f6ive gotten very little feedback online so not sure anymore|1 The current state of SK is Cases 5328 Deaths 34 Recovered 41 So its most likely that theyve managed to detect the virus early on and have done mass testing I wouldnt draw survival fatality rate from them just yet|1 Dwight Could beJim Four thousandDwight I can see that happening yesJim Eight thousandDwight Thats a realistic amountJim Pam kisses Jim on the cheek Eleven thousandDwight PerhapsJim Okay now really think hard about this one Ten thousandDwight I can see that as a very real possibilityJim time has obviously passed as everyone is gone except Jim and Dwight Four hundred and ninetyfour thousandDwight I can see that happeningJim Four hundred and ninetyFIVE thousand Thats just|1 Sadly low risk people dont understand that if they catch it they can give it to their parents and grandparents and it could be serious for them|0 And doctors will discard the vulnerable to save these pieces of shit|0 Like a trailer for an HBO miniseries|1 Some people can be calm in the face of risking their own health to help others I dont know if the word calm has the same meaning in both scenarios|1 Hes an idiot|0 Ok hang in there|1 I agree that this looks suspicious but logistically how would this work The government massemailed a huge number of people this canned response How would they enforce itA lot of the examples going around are from businesses That makes me wonder if someone made a heres how to reassure customers in English template thats being copied Im also curious about some of those social media accounts Have they been around long If not it could be bots rather than actual people being pressured to parrot the party line|1 This is what really worries me Im a college student I thought about canceling my flight home yet given how many studentswho as we all know are the pinnacle of selfcare will be traveling across the nation and the world I cant imagine it wont have reached every major population center by the end of next weekWhat kept me from canceling was the reality that the situation might be far worse when I next wanted to return home However youre completely right no one seems to be particularly concerned about the possibility of infection|0 not at all this is what our government UK has told us to do dont ban travel Were keeping schools open because it doesnt kill kids only old people Etc etc|1 1 In our country wearing a mask is just part of protecting yourself Obey the governments arrangement and isolate myself at home When you feel uncomfortable notify the hospital immediately This is a very important part When you dont reach other people the viruss transmission will lose its way of transmission In our country if you are sick the hospital will use a special ambulance to take you to the isolation ward of the hospital to treat you From the moment you get sick you can only contact the doctor Therefore patients have no chance to spread the virus to other healthy people2 If you want to contact other people medical surgical masks or medical N95 masks are necessary If you want to contact incubation period patients two sets of medical N95 masks goggles medical protective clothing medical protective gloves are necessary of|0 yes cough can cause aerosol Also if you spit or shit on the ground they will be vaporized as aerosol Whether other can get infected or not depends on his immune strength and the viral load But theoretically even only single virus in the aerosol is infectious|1 Heh Im A and my wife is O|0 I think the point is at a certain point Italy might not be quite there yet but its getting closer the resources just CANNOT allow the hospital to treat everyone that needs treatment People are talking about what will happen in that situation assuming Italy isnt quite at that stage yetHoping a combination of effective quarantine better distribution of resources distributing patients evenly between hospitals across the country to reduce burden on hospitals in the hardest hit areas and foreign aid will prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed to the extent where wartime triage is needed|1 Maybe fought hard long after initial infection and reactions|0 Im currently overseas in the military but 2 months worth of supplies here wife and kids at home on the farm 2 months worth of supplies Growing food and lots of animalsa stocked pond could go on indefinite if need be Even have dairy cows and honey bees|1 I mean i never understood the rivalry between Michigan and Ohio like as an outsider it is just crystal clear Ohio is just better than Michigan in every way Its like the NY LA thing like LA is a dump why are they even trying to compete|1 Sounds like something Macron would say|1 People not taking it serious is the scariest thing to me Ive been falling back into my ways with substance abuse the past few weeks due to the anxiety of the whole thing My loved ones and friends not taking it serious making me feel crazy and making fun of me is just causing me extra anxiety I want to seek mental health help at this point but there is no way Im going near a medical facility|0 I imagine that when the seralogical test blood test for antibodies becomes available then that test can be used to measure whether someone has had Covid19 and has recovered So the final numbers can be determined later|1 They might be considered eventually The issue is that our government is extremely reactive and not proactive dragging their feet while chasing the facts blindfolded|0 Hiya Id like to help mod if youd be open to it My perspective is that of a highrisk younger person disabled with a few conditions that affect my lungsheartimmunity living in a mostly highrisk household My partner and I have been prepping since Jan but my elderly parents are resistant and scared Currently hospitalised for other reasons in a regional hospital with a Covid19 patient which is proving interesting Btw Ive also modded before a few times|1 Yeah maybe I dont have the facts and I dont think anyone here does|1 Lol This is PR Hes doing marketing and youre a sucker This has zero impact on anything OTHER than PR|0 I took my 4 yr old son to the pediatrician in Alabama this week for severe cough and high fever He has a history of pneumonia as a toddler and was hospitalized as an infant for RSV I had stocked up on a few masks back in January when I first read about Coronavirus So I put one on him before we walked in the door Im not currently worried about Coronavirus but I figured it was common curtesy to the other patients especially infants who might be there for well visitsHe was diagnosed with bronchitis an ear infection and pink eye poor kid is miserable No one in the office was wearing masks but I made sure he sat in the sick child waiting area and kept his mask on When she came in the doctor thanked me for putting a mask on him She said they had recently run out of surgical masks at their practice and the order is on back order They are making do with thoroughly cleaning rooms between patients Honestly I think Americans would benefit in general if we all took the Asian approach of wearing a mask when we are sick Also self isolating I kept him home from school all week However I know that because we dont have paid sick leave in the USA that is really difficult for many parents|0 This is a terrible idea If youre vulnerable you dont want to be around other vulnerable people who are more likely to be infected This is the opposite of herd immunity|0 Awww its cute that you think your little internet opinions mean something to anyone but you Why dont you try starting arguments with someone who gives a shit about what you think Enjoy your day chastising strangers on the internet |0 Got my mask and filters years ago Its good to be prepared |1 They really punched it up from the first draft Hey Italy sorry about the you know|0 To us in Europe zero since healthcare is mostly free To you people in the US I imagine enough to drive the whole nation into bankruptcy|1 If youre in the states next to innawoods you should definitely have a bug out bag in any case|1 Yep Im in Austin and we have a couple of confirmations now The news is telling us that those cases came from the Houston area but its not like Houston and Austin are that far apartits weekend trip distance So Im expecting more|0 Out of 12 people in the group two to three saw changes in their lung capacityAnd Tsang added however that patients can do cardiovascular exercises like swimming the improve their lung capacity over timeSo its still bad but not as bad as your initial reaction might be|0 I wont be able to if its only a thousand dollars a monthI need to be paid what Im makingI still want this tonpass but I only have so much PTOand Im extremely lucky as most people I know dont have that at their jobs|1 We all know the virus is crafty First you get no symptoms then you get a little symptoms and then you are curedthen and only Then does it kill you All the time you a contagious s|0 My dad is a midsixties primary care physician with type 1 diabetes Yeah you could say Im a little scared|1 Im super cereal you guys|1 In Latin America where traditional values are held to a high standard|1 Hes been so ridiculous about all of this all these jokes are running around Ive made a few myself but Im sincerely concerned now I dont want him to fail I hope to God he gets his act together on this now He very likely may have already cost thousands of lives by dragging his feet and being all hakuna matata but darnit theres still millions of lives at stake|1 I bet that stock of toilet paper disappears real quick|0 They took a closer look the dice was a sugar cubeChoking on the last gulp of tea They stated lessons had been learned and that they acted on the best scientific advice at the time and that they will get COVID done COVID means COVID|1 Im ready to next week I emailed the principal that I will be withdrawing her but she goes to charter so her space isnt automatically saved for next year Basically just asking for her to save her a space if possible Her class has been a disaster anyway with two shit teachers and the current one is about to quit anyway so I have good reason to pull her anyway without the corona situation|0 They were moving ICU patients all over the country yesterday Presumably there are logistical issues there as well|1 Suing him Arrest the guy|0 I dont think youre entirely wrong anyway I think Ive heard of illnesses for which a vaccine is therapeutic for its role in boosting the immune systems response in time to stop the infectious agent I think rabies is one such illness but I havent looked anything up to refresh my memory|0 I was JUST thinking about this Ever since becoming an adult Ive realized America kind of sucks And this pandemic is certainly adding more weight to that Thanks for summing it up so well|1 Probably the text got cut off|0 I thank my gov for closing the borders Argentina|1 Thats good but its common practice in Italy was done in January and in China even before|1 Whats funny is those people are accusing those concerned of believing all the media hype They seem to not recognize that they media was downplaying all of this for the last month and the people saying to be concerned now only came out in the last week or so They act like were the sheep when in reality they are|1 Plus even if it doesnt end the world our lives will probably suck afterwards The 90s was the best time to be alive|1 Must be nice to live in a place with a functional democratic government|1 Thanks thats great|1 It really baffles me how people shrug this virus off as if it were nothing This virus has a 5 day incubation period which makes it just about impossible to control or quarantine Its scary shit man Sure you might not care about old people as this is who this virus targets currently People seem to forget that viruses mutate The Spanish flu mutated before the second wave and was particularly deadly to 3050 year olds Dont panic But dont treat this as nothing If anything hopefully we can use it as a lesson or just a sad reality that there is little control we have over pandemics|0 My husband Itll never affect us we live in a village Says the man who spends his working week visiting different train stations every day And not just the small unmanned ones Oh no The biggest ones he can find At the busiest times The whole family is screwed|0 No Also found in parts of India where malaria is commonOne copy of the sicklecell mutation increases resistance to malaria Two cause the disease areas with endemic malaria have selection pressure|0 Best of luck to you all|1 Sorry guys been there a lot Did deals Its standard operating procedure if you allow it and that fundamental in your commerce system is what makes you incompatible with the West|1 I dont understand If the staff is exposed there is a 14 days incubation period Though not showing symptoms the exposed staff can still infect others|0 Once this virus is passed we still need to deal with the threat of climate change these cruise ships are among the most harmful forms of tourism on the planet|0 A good friend of mine tested positive today Its on the news and everything He didnt travel anywhere doesnt even have a passport nor did he have any known contact with a confirmed case Hes a middle aged man who lives alone and is retired so he didnt get it from anyone in his household nor at work He doesnt really go anywhere besides the grocery store and occasionally the hardware store Hes had an organ transplant and is on antirejection immune suppressant drugs Im so worried about him I dont know what to do I just wanna cry Theyre telling us theres no evidence of community spread but I and many many others are telling you for a fact that is absolute bullshit Its propaganda in the hopes of keeping public panic to a minimum The other shoe is going to drop in the next few weeks when our numbers start multiplying and I think we will be in just as bad if not worse shape than Italy|0 The media has done a great job of scaring the shit out of thousands of people They did the same thing with SARS MERS now Covid19 For them its about ratings Get your information direct from the CDC and World Health Organization websitesGetting the info you need is important for you and your family just skip the TV drama You will better informed and less stressed and better equipped to deal with it|1 In the UK if your employer sends you home sick they have to pay you An employer I know has gotten around this by adopting a policy of telling staff to phone 111 non emergency number for the NHS and if the result of the phone call is that the staff member is advised to go home then the employer doesnt have to pay them Needless to say the employees are all planning to say nothing if theyre feeling ill|0 My sister said daycare told her everythings fine and theres no riskCanada closes all childcare and schools to promote people staying home although malls are still open |1 The LA Marathon opened up for additional runners when Tokyo cancelled for the nonelite I know two people who are running this marathon now after Tokyo was cancelled on them They are flying to LA tomorrow If LA is going to cancel I hope they do it by tonight|0 Oh Ive heard all that from mine too Luckily mine is sunder 70 however if the government say all over 70s should stay at home like people are suggesting needs to be done how do they enforce thatMy point really was people seem to think this is some huge step to keeping people safe however they already have the option Boho telling them to stay at home is not going to make much difference|1 NO MORE panicking the public You only ruining the stock market even more99 of infected will have FLU symptoms and recover|0 This is the truth though 10 and 25 are arbitrary numbers Why 10 and not 11 The difference in risk between 10 and 25 people is probably minimal and its entirely dependent on the nature of the meeting Right now Id much rather share a ballroom with 25 people than a conference room with 10|1 My SPY puts agree|1 Thanks man Im learning a lot from the internet|1 I just use the tip of my pinky and press lightly Since I wear jeans a strong press and flick against my pants causing a friction burn Not sure if that is hot enough to kill germs|0 The remedy is to stop letting sociopaths run the economy as dictators There are people who look at autocratic governments with no rights for the people and it instantly clicks for them that its a bad thing and those people should have rights and a say in the government Then they look at an economic system being run by autocratic leaders where the employees have no say the customers have no say and the regular folks dealing with the fallout of the companys bad decisions have no say and somehow dont see the problemThat needs to stop A thousand dictators competing with each other for more money is still a thousand dictators|0 OR Went shopping for a few things yesterday and store was absolutely nuts Cash register line snaking through aisles Still the employees had a good system going so even though it looked overwhelming and was hard to shop the actual line was just 20 min and moving the at an okay paceWas on the phone with my parents WA this morning as they were driving to Costco and my mom screamed when the approached the parking lot They got there 15 min before open and the line to get in the store was wrapping along the side of the storeAlso its now snowing at least along the i5 corridor in both states PNW notoriously very chill about snow s|0 My sympathies my friend|1 Did you miss the part where I said keep a scientific eyemindhttpsundsciberkeleyeduarticle000howscienceworks06 nothing emotional about my logic|0 Compared to these other countries with universal healthcare many more people will never go to hospital and will die at home like the man in Florida Maybe there will be testing postmortem if the family asks Maybe since they are in their 70s there will be no autopsy Thus keeping the numbers skewed|0 Isnt he supposed to not be engaging in stuff like this Like not even touching his businesses while in office|1 Theres nothing to dispute there are countless of these cases The cancellation policy was clear Morally right or wrong its not a fraudulent transaction Airbnb isnt pocketing the nor are they making the decision to not refund the host is airbnb keeps their service fee of course|1 Fuck theM i still wont use their site News should be free|0 Good advice Ill look into permanent off grid living and never leaving my property Guess Ill have to be vegan as well to prevent any other novel zoonotic diseases|1 Im sure they have larger and ever increasing sample sizes and other sources of data|1 Military Intelligence I am truly surprised by this lack of proper distancing I mean its not like they couldnt do an email or even 45 soldiers at a time I just figured the Navy would of been smarter on this|1 We just hate Terroni which obviously arent Italians but Africans Especially Sicilians have you ever wondered why they detached Sicily from ItalyIm obviously joking I have many terroni friends|1 Shit both my parents work at disney|0 Very interesting I didnt know that Its a very good way to jumpstart back the economy then In the end wether they actually care about their workforce or not they are saving face Im just glad its not at the expense of many lives|1 It makes sense OSHA compliance will kick your teeth in PPE requires mandatory training as well as maintenance Additionally if you have any sort of Air filter PPE it requires a complete training module If any employee wears their own personally owned PPE the company is liable for any fuck ups Companies are liable for company provided and individually owned PPEI took the 10hour general industry safety and health training by OSHA and the respirator parts were very strict|1 Which sources are you using for US case counts Just curious and nice work|1 Thank you I agree and feel for people like your mom One of this womans comments was that I wouldnt be getting a physical exam so it wouldnt be the same as coming into the office but I am a lifelong COPD and asthma patient Aside from putting a stethoscope up to my lungs and listening theres not a whole lot else theyre doing for me in person I can describe my symptoms over the phone Ive had the same symptoms for 20 years I work for an IT company that seems to be taking more precautions than this doctors office It feels like the Twilight Zone|1 Singapore and Korea took note in a serious manner It always has been you reap what you sow|0 Almost certainly Americans cant afford to get checked or self quarantine so itll yeet its way around pretty quick|1 How would you feed them all There would be constant struggle and competition for resources Its inevitable they would end up fighting and killing each other Apex predators gotta prey on something Its just their instinct Sorry|0 You can CYCLE around it in a few hours lol|1 its a luxury 80 is a lot i know you cant understand this but for a lot of students it is that difficult|0 Beautifully said |1 Im not sure what he said but even if he said that it doesnt matter in this context youre just changing the goal postsYour argument is focused on what he said and if he said what you claimed he is a hypocrite and I agreeMy argument is not focused at all on what he said or who is he as a person my argument is that by staying home and selfquarantining hes being socially responsible rather than having an ulterior motive behind staying at home Your argument is completely irrelevant to what I said|0 Yes He thinks its a videogame leaderboard |1 I look at claims all day long believe me I know about markup Just had one where the assistant surgeon charged more than the surgeon and could get away with it because they are out of network The issue is the US will not do anything about out of control costs among other things because price controls are seen as anticapitalist|0 This is the best news yet for the US today If a city of 8 million can do this it will go everywhere This will ease the burden on millions and we need that Upvote this carry it to the front pageSpread awareness not covid19|1 Pretty tough to stock store shelves from home|1 Someone who cures liberals Ill see my self out|0 We just need your bank account details to help|1 You cant responsibly rely on anyone or anything to tell you an unvarnished truth Truth comes from comparing sources ability to ascertain the truth and their motivations in telling it to you|1 When the hospitals are overwhelmed its going to look like a war zone in sorrow|0 Ayy I work for PFJ Ive been telling pro drivers that the rainy day has come to use up those points lol Come in and say hi once all this blows over we appreciate you guys|1 Stopping travel to Europe is thought to delay the peak infection period by a couple of hours It was far far too late|0 I was feeling weird too this morning|0 The problem is everyone has to do it or it doesnt work So until the government mandates it it wont happen Also most people think this is bullshit and overblown|0 So pay for overrun orders to be made and warehoused|0 Isnt that ironic|1 Problem is that you can get the symptoms twice or more Its repeating itself There will be a crisis and there will be hospitals that wont keep up That is because you need more beds actually at once Treatment take 1 to 2 weeks On top of that you have regular patients that have to be isolated or rather other way around coronavirus patients have to be isolated from the rest This wont be manageable because its hard to predict whats gonna happen how fast the influx will be One day there can be 1000 cases world wide and next day it will be 4000 During 2 weeks thats a lot of people and still you have to remember that hospitals will focus the coronavirus but they are unable to leave rest of the patients unattended and if the situation will be any similar to Italy even in 50 of severity then i dont think any health system is able to handle it not US one nor EU or Chinese I wouldnt be surprised if at some point hospitals will also get contaminated because you only need one mistake one patient outside the isolation in a hospital doctor not checking for coronavirus first for example its an emergency somebody was hit by a car and needs intimidate care Bam that very same doctor then goes to talk with family checks other patients touches something done Then big chunk of a facility has to be evacuated and checked sterilized System just lost efficiency for some time|0 Fixed Thanks|1 Good to hear stay safe lad Not sure why youre being downvoted Not as if you said youd be the one attacking|1 Thats what happened Wuhan city and Hubei province were put under containment to give time for the rest of china to get surge capacity ready and to implement mitigation programs through limiting peoples movement That also bought time for the rest of the world time which the CDC and US authorities squandered|1 I would say that the closest weve experienced unfortunately is 911 Disaster quickly followed by a shock recession coupled with national trauma and with large impacts on travel sector The one thing that shouldnt be underestimated however and is different is consumer willingness to spend money That period also had the com crash We have some economic issues but after this is over people will likely be trying to get back to normal as fast as possible We have a clear threat but unlike other disasters we know how to fight it It will likely be a rough as heck year however new measures are being passed to reduce economic impact and further govt control in the US of healthcare system is a good thing In the meantime look to what you can control How can you help prepare your loved ones your business and yourself While it may feel it you arent helpless you still have agency and what you do now matters a lot I suspect that we will need volunteers to help either distribute food or care for those in need or help clean Think about how you can help It helps In the meanwhile if youre having trouble fixating I was last week I recommend listening to Irish jig music Spotify has a great playlist Its very hard to remain panicked for long while listening |1 No off topic political comments|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos he could give each of his employees 500k each and still be a multi billionaire I dont think people understand just how much money is a billion dollars and Bezos is worth 106 billion if he gave away 5000k a day it would take over 58000 years for him to be broke If you were given 5000 a day it would take 547 years to save one billion and he Is asking people that cannot afford rent and food at the same to donate come on man do better|1 Its not contagious|1 Good for you for standing your ground You should thank your boss for coming to an understanding|1 VirginiaWe live in a relatively rural part of the state and while the Walmart toilet paper aisle was hit hard really nothing changed until the local university announced that they were going online only for all classes for the rest of the semester Everyone at the engineering firm where I work thinks the world has gone mad Considering that the death toll in the US is less than 12 average hours of traffic deaths its easy to see why|0 Good for you This old grandma has been on setihome since 1999 and now BOINC Ill gladly turn over my servers for this great cause|1 Its true Go onto prolife twitter and all they are talking about is how terrible it would be if the emergency relief bill doesnt ban abortions|1 Same here Ciprofloxacin has changed my life for the worse dramatically I have burning tendons joints numb limbs fingers and very loud tinnitus daily My legs are weak and I cannot run anymore I have strong muscle pains and cramps several times a week despite a high intake of magnesium Every cold brings these symptoms back in high intensity Its been horrible and it makes me fear a Corona infection even moreJust a month before taking Ciprofloxacin I was hiking in the mountains for a week straight 12h a day with no problems whatsoever|0 Fire Kill it with fire|0 Yep now watch all the lax naysayers start paying attention|1 I mean based on their performance with this outbreak so far I wouldnt be at all surprisedPut me in charge chief Im ready|1 Oh cool thanks Good luck and stay safe|1 Penske Dealer management was trying to figure out how to keep staff there and stay open while the area is preparing to go into lockdown per government instruction They figure law enforcement cant check every local business so theyll get away with it like people are buying luxury vehicles or bringing the cars in for service right now Employees were told if they need to be home then theyre using their PTO No word on pay if theyre forced to close Partner works for them and Im high risk so its been a very stressful past few daysEdit Were in NJ|0 Ie metal and plastic Organic materials are rough at the nanoscale dangerous to lipid enveloped viruses|0 Yeah we took it as a joke as well two weeks ago and now we are locked down Thats why I want you to know|1 I once got lectured by a stranger when I was buying condoms Some people are just obnoxious and dont mind their own business|0 Ok boomer You sound like my mom Granted she hasnt left her house in 10 years either At least she has an excuse to be naive|1 This is a nice idea|1 Amazonian here Were basically in a second peak right now Absolutely insane amount of work coming in for this time of year|0 Maybe They only ever announced confirmed cases via press briefings They never announced how many were under quarantine awaiting results of anything as to the spreadNow this woman who acquired it in the community has spread it to at least one care home she worked at several and youre going to see a wave of deaths thereMy local grocery store is still out of soap toilet paper and hand sanitizer This will just get worse quickly|1 okay lets get this straight upwhy cant this vaccine be tested on a person who is actually infected whats the point in infecting people just to test the vaccine incase this vaccine doesnt work out then it will lead to more no of deaths|0 Definitely httpswwwsunsentinelcomnewsflnecoronavirusprivacy20200207zcyt7b7y7vg6lcs4js5ezjha3astoryhtmlhttpswwwsunsentinelcomnewsflnecoronavirusprivacy20200207zcyt7b7y7vg6lcs4js5ezjha3astoryhtmlhttpswwwmiamiheraldcomnewshealthcarearticle240390676htmlhttpswwwmiamiheraldcomnewshealthcarearticle240390676htmlhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11brightoncouncillorcoronavirusthreathiddensamerbagaeenhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb11brightoncouncillorcoronavirusthreathiddensamerbagaeen|1 Trust me Tijuana pharmacies know how to spell Gringo It just takes one customer asking for something and theyll make sure they have something that looks like this drug on the shelf waiting for the next one|1 Nice I mean its still a european country with what i can imagine a good economy and many resources i would imagine they can handle this It must be hard running medical operations nowadays tho People are surely still getting sick from different stuff people are still getting injured And now you have to test 10s of thousands everyday It must be rough|1 good work the germermans keep it up|1 Umm so far no one in the US has died of the Corona virus|0 so how many actual dead in wuhan Im thinking 30K at least|0 Youre right oops The point still stands the math still works but its a a bit more optimistic with the numbers switched and Im glad thats the case Thanks for pointing that out|1 True better prepared for something that never actually happens then in a panic trying to figure out how not to starve or die or something cause you aint ready for shit lol|1 Are you saying it will definitely happen or that you need a contingency plan They might be more willing to listen if it is stated more vaguely even if you are correct in your certainty|1 My childrens education in eastern PA actually encourages a very strong component of social good as part of the school day In public schools for which I am very satisfied My little one six years old is however very concerned She has adopted pretty careful hygiene procedures for a six year old which makes me worry about how damaging all of this is to kids Shes sleeping in a fort in n the living room right now not because its fun but because for her it maybe seems safe She cant help but figure it out|1 Normalcy biasNormalcy bias or normality bias is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they normally have functioned and therefore to underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters and on a larger scale the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations About 70 of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disasterThe normalcy bias can manifest itself in various disasters ranging from car crashes to worldhistorical events It is hypothesized that the normalcy bias may be caused by the way the brain processes new information PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 The laws that bans poaching trading and consumption of protected wild animals such as pangolins have been in effect since 1989 with 4 revisions since The laws are in place but it was the law enforcing part that was lax In practicality it is difficult to enforce the law especially at the retail to consumer side At the supply end wet markets and street markets are prevalent throughout Asia not just in China These wet markets often engage in sale of live meat and slaughter of poultry Reason for that is both supply chain and cultural Many people prefer freshly slaughtered animals for better meat quality Because animal husbandry is Asia is often at family level farms rather than industrial farms it is difficult for a centralized supply chain and large amount of small individual suppliers ship out their produce live and often sell directly at wet marketsAt the demand end the demand for some wild animals as delicacy or medicinal exist in the culture These wild delicacy and animal medicine often have quite a long history and some of the older generation believe in them A vast majority of the population does not consume those but even 01 percent for China is more than 10 million people To truly stop this it needs to be cultural shift for these people I think the government in the past just wasnt that bothered to enforce the law With the coronavirus social media throughout China has been bombarded with messages condemning the consumption of wild animals either for delicacy or medicine Some went far with shaming and doxxing people who eat What I have observed this 2 months I think the cultural change may be lasting and for the better|1 The way this is likely to work in every country is that doctors will use it on a small scale to test it out and roll it out across the whole country as they gain confidence with this treatment This is how it worked in China too They started with a hundred different treatments at small scale and narrowed down on the ones that are most effective This is why mortality rates kept improving throughout FebruaryAs terrible as things have been the rate of learning for COVID19 is already a minor miracle We did not develop tests and treatments for past diseases like Ebola or SARS nearly as quickly That being said medical treatment is really a second line of defense the first line has to be quarantine Even with effective treatments the medical system can still be overwhelmed if too many people get infected at once My fear is that once people know that there is a somewhat effective treatment they will act stupid and take unnecessary risks This might be one reason why this information is not widely publicized|1 Its what Dr Leung Dean of Medicine of the Hong Kong University said here that so far all coronaviruses all airborne so far example SARSthis one is new but its still a coronavirus The video is in Chinese and English I had to listen to the whole thing At 4230 he says all containment measures have failed At 14155 he speaks of coronaviruses all previous ones being spread in an airborne fashion httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseulnbysummaryofpressconferencebyprofessorgabrielSARS is airbornehttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa032867Airborne pattern of transmission can be ascertained at first from epidemic curves and how cases sprout here and there and how fast If you put it all togetherone must think the following the containment measures taken have been for droplets and fomites larger particles close contact kind of transmission and they have not had much effect Why Perhaps because dropletfomite precautions are not enoughperhaps because they need containment measure for an airborne virus|0 First sorry for my bad English I am in an university for dual study to work in the town hall We are traveling from everywhere from Niedersachsen to Hannover Every day With a train full with hundreds of people Trough cities that has also official infected people Hannover has 4 official infected people Germany is not testing anyone There are more cases than the official Everyone knows that But we have to go the university In view of the fact that we are from all over Niedersachsen its just a matter of time that we are the ones who will spread it There is also one professor who is 14 days at home bc she is being sick after her holidays in italy Sound like quarantine right But no information for us I think whoever said its just 10 days for us is absolutely right|0 Oh its contained here in Massachusetts Gee thanks for nothing I am a Trump supporter and my patience with this administrations response to the situation is growing VERY thin|1 looks like they are expanding testing as yes there are 465 people under investigation If high number tomorrow it would be interesting to see a percentage If 7 or more we would be at Seattle numbers overnight|1 Why is this based on absolute humidity Is this a commonly used factor in those fields Thats maybe a correlation but not a good metricparameter as it is very unlikely that it in itself is a factor Probably the factors if you only take absolute humidity and not other weather influences and indirect influences like heating and generating warm dry air in the rooms there is temperature and relative humiditySo as somebody who dealt much with humidityhumid air and processes related to it in different fields this sounds odd to me 40C and 5 rH is the same absolute humidity 7gm3 humid air as 7C and 100 rH which is completely different habitats and reaction environments In the first all water will evaporate very quickly in the air and on surfaces and reactions run fast because of the high temperature In the second droplets will evaportate extremely slowly or never and reaction speeds will be slowerRelated to chemical reactions and physical behaviour the important factor for by far most interesting processes here related to humid air is relative humidity and you typically would call a weather with 70 rH and 7C humid not dry And the same absolute humidity at 40C a very dry desert climate Is this common in this field For example influenza viruses survive longer on surfaces or in droplets in cold and dry air increasing the likelihood of subsequent transmission This sounds totally off for me for me this is humid cold air it has a high relative humidity and a cold temperature which causes droplets to survive there longer Also this is not the environment people are in often there is ac and heating Typically outside climate in early spring in those regions is moderately cold and pretty humid rel and warm and dry rel absolute the same or a little bit higher indoorsSo could somebody explain to me why they have chosen a weird parameter such as absolute humidity to base the study on For me this looks like using a pretty abitrary parameter for which no hypothesis on a mechanism is postulated and they try to find a correlation based on only two special kinds of weather late winter and spring weather|1 The POTUS cant cancel elections Elections are a State function|1 Yup Luckily I bought IsopropylAlcohol and can mix my own supply now|1 If youre going to panic panic early Nassim Taleb|0 That difference is most likely caused by Italy not testing as much and missing a lot of mild cases Expect the rates in Poland and US to be similar to Italy almost no tests are being done there either Poland also lacks respirators so the hard cases will end badly|0 he didnt say that he said its merely a flu which it fucking is|0 Youre right nothings wrong Go play outside|0 I agree with you Also you can say the word shit |0 Yes that is what we have to assume form the limited data we have Its enlightening to compare testing strategies and their respective probability of an infection being a severe caseSouth Korea Germany and lately China have been testing aggressively based on tracing contacts of infected and testingisolating those people The rate of severe cases and deaths compared to the total number of confirmed cases from those tests suggests a rate of 36 of severe cases with some indicators pointing to the lower bound being closer to the real rate Likewise deaths are very low in this sample and the real rate might very well be as low as 06 though here we run into issues with the low sample size Also those numbers seem to show that both genders get infected at the same rate and that young people get infected much more than previously assumed However male and elderly people are much more likely to develop a severe case than other groupsContrast this with the much bleaker numbers reported by countries that test primarily people who selfreport Eg China in the beginning Spain Italy and the US Here we see a much higher rate of severe cases and deaths eg Italys is 25 times worse than Germanys as well as a significant skew towards male and elderly people in both tested and cofnirmed casesThe conclusion to take from this seems to be that despite eg Italy and Germany reporting similar absolute numbers of confirmed cases just shifted in time Italy and all other lowtesting countries probably have a far higher number of unidentified cases than we know of At this point it seems evident that tracking the number of confirmed cases is rather pointless and one should track the number of hospitalisations and deaths to get comparable numbers|0 Lets go innovation|1 I would really love to have a chat with those boys parents He came across so callous that it had to be systemic from how they were raised|1 This sucker should burn in hell|0 Yeah but the increase in exponential so it will not take very long|1 a lot more tbh example if you just take germanies age bracket 65 which is 1788 million people and just 60 gets ill and then 148 dies you allready get 1587744 deaths and thats just 1 country and 1 age bracket|0 Great handwriting hehe Thanks for the changes though|1 What does a State of emergency actually do He closed bars and no longer allowed gatherings of 50 people but not manufacturing companies with greater than 50 employees And not malls|1 all that up there was recommended by alopathy doctors except for the herb gardenso aaaand block|0 Wow hopefully he makes out ok|1 Unfortunately its a funding issue the higher costs foreign students pay subsidize tuition for domestic students Our college system would be even more prohibitively expensive without them|0 Sorry Mods|0 I did sneeze while reading the first part and thought I was gonna be dead soon|0 Mayo probably isnt a bad thing to have around as wellWhat WhyCant have dry sandwiches at the end of the worldMayo would probably not be worth having Lots of more nutritious better preserved options than mayonnaise|1 Good to hear that other provinces are also acting |1 Luckily the festival I am going to is close enough to drive so it is just the Airbnb cost I would be out but it looks like they might give us a refund if the festival is cancelledwe use them every year so they know us well More frustrating to me than the money is the lineup this year is the best the festival has ever hadVeld in Toronto|1 Did you notice that HEB has announced limits on hand sanitizer and some other products|1 lol no worries|0 No one is preaching the apocalypse saying a lot of people are gonna get sick and surge hospitals is not fear mongering It is fact But go onThe journalist who mocked the virus in Italy changed his tune after he saw what happened with his own eyes to his country Have fun dealing with all the patients that are gonna come and youre forced to reuse PPE and wear diapers on the job|0 So Ill take that as a no you dont have any evidence Typical|0 I am one of those rare people that are actually allergic to the flu shot My lungs have not been the same since I cough in the morning like Ive been smoking for 20 years|0 The flu has basically stopped here in So Cal Our census is way down feels like the tide receding before the tsunami hits We are working around the clock to plan but in reality no hospital is possibly prepared for this Shits about to get bad|0 Ok okIraq Syria are in no state to take on anything Ill give you that And Egypts comfortable with not dealing with a bitter war while theyre handling their own terrorism vs martial law internal conflictBUTLebanons gonna find an easy out from its protests blame the JewsIranll make good on the wiping the Zionist entity off the map demagoguerySaudill get involved in the proxy war for Palestine the Sunnis are their friends after allJordan will want to scavenge parts tooAll the other ME countries are supporters andor clients of either Saudi or Iran meaning theyll attack Israel in the proxy war poorly disguised as a free Palestine campaign|0 watch YouTuber die slowly of coronavirus youll never guess what happens|0 Youre assuming herd immunity is actually a thing here Most coronaviruses only grant people shortterm immunity and then they are vulnerable again a few months later|1 Must NOT find america has the virus until its everywhere Otherwise the Dollar is no longer the flight to safety currency and our tradeeconomy grinds to a halt|1 Ya this wouldve been a good idea a month ago or how bout stopping flights to infected areasFor all the flack Trump gets it amazes me that nobodys calling out Trudeau for doing shit all like Trump when these two had months to prepare|1 If you feel that IV is too high and that the market will still go down then write calls Or call credit spreads My point is that if people could easily see where the market is going then wed all be rich|1 Yes Ive had this thought But do it nowso they can clean up their act on how to handle the situation We also need a massive public education campaign so we all stay home and slow it down Here in Alaska its business as usual Not one person has a mask on even at Costco a week ago I was the only one|1 I would definitely give it a go We could use a couple of stockers and I wouldnt hesitate to hire one right now Good luck and stay safe out there|1 Yes I know in 1 hour my hands look like Im a gardener that changes tires I do both on certain days I cash in drawers in the morning and do the whole count at night|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or postsYour post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|0 Charge the fool with attempted murder|0 The flu kills more people every year because its already around the world and so common If we allow the coronavirus to spread effortlessly then I can guarantee you that the coronavirus will kill more people each year|0 No shortage of good movies or shows to watch I think well be OK on that front|1 Survive as in survive or survive as in make it through persist through a difficult situation|0 I will be messaging you in 1 year on 20210309 145207 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202103092014520720UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsff0jjutheitaliansocietyofanesthesiaresuscitationfk0t2t3context3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Fff0jju2Ftheitaliansocietyofanesthesiaresuscitation2Ffk0t2t32F5D0A0ARemindMe21202021030920143A523A0720UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent 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We are with you in pain for you We will support you with everything we have In the end we will win against this virus as we have over others The real power is your efforts thank you|1 lol how does it feel to be censored more actively here than by the CCP|1 Maybe they will help against the TrumparonaVirus|1 thank you that puts my mind at ease a bit but i live in a state where theyre not even testing for covd19 and all of my friends and family act like theyre immune to it or it wont come to Ohio|1 Orangeman has fired dozens and dozens of high ranking officials over his term who oppose him From Bannon to Comey the list of fired cabinet members in rotation is numbingly hilariousAnd Im taking the piss but as his tenure tells defy that lush head of hair on Trump and lose your job|0 Twitter is generally an unreliable source If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text Thank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Because people are misinformed I saw that comment on another thread too|0 FuckI will not have an anxiety attack I will not have an anxiety tack|0 Oh my god thats bad sciencethe pneumonia patients were given broad spectrum antibiotics which wouldve wiped these out Didnt affect outcomes|0 How Mine are already dead|0 Im literally doing everything in my power staying home washing hands using hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes Everything in my power except of course for one thing I cant stop touching my goddamn face|1 Some experts have said 50 or more of America could get it Of those over 60 as much as 10 could die I dont know what the demographics are of trump supporters but we shouldnt politicise this because thats just fucking horrible no matter who they are|0 Communists are good at playing good cop bad cop game|1 I was hoping this title was click bait but it isnt 66k infected 10 years to death sentence for concealing symptoms Good luck china|1 30 years of brainwashing the public will do that just look at how so many people got angry at Greta because they were told too|0 I dont think our situation will be better than Italy New York only has about 3000 ICU ventilators and the estimated need at peak is 20000 37000 What happens to the others|1 Amen I couldnt agree with you more What we can do is unite our American people who are clued in are frustrated at the slow pace to get things done and push back and take a stand where we can For us it was pulling our child out of school last week and working with the Teacher to do digital school Were in OC CA with 3 known new infected cases via community spread hes in private school cause public school wasnt an option for us We are saying no where and when we can into crowds parties and travel It is already interfering with some activities or social norms were used to but this is the sacrifice as a people we must start setting to slow down the spread for the very reasons you said Honestly its just pure ignorance at this point when people say theyre healthy so it wont effect them or theyll just get mild symptoms yadda yadda The systems we count on for every day life are going to be massively impacted food and good supply chains both domestically and foreign since we get 65 of our goods from the countries shut down or slowed down battling this Never mind India told us a month ago theyll stop giving the ingredients we need for medications to help their own people battle the infections Or how about 8090 of our ingredients for meds OTC meds immune boosters vitamins etc come from China Or if this gets as bad as weve watched it in other countries well have to quarantine or help a loved one sick and who can get any work done then But I digress as the flu kills more people per year and the media is overhyping this Well be fine Im sure until people start dropping dead|0 Honestly I dont know what to make of it all Its crazy you have countries like Poland who have shut all schools and universities and they only had 26 cases Then you have us with 590 cases or potentially 10000 according to the government and we are just meant to carry on like nothings happeningI think one of the worst things about this is that it downplays the whole situation People who didnt care about it before are going to be like I told you so People who were more aware of the virus and being cautious may go back to living life as usual And people like me who are genuinely worried and were taking proactive measures are probably now questioning if it was all a waste of time I certainly am|1 Health officials said the first patient attended an invitationonly event Friday despite being told to selfisolate An official order of isolation was then issued under a state law that allows health officials to order isolation or quarantine measures to prevent the spread of communicable diseases|0 Whats included in Aetnas care and assistance package|1 Is this actually true|1 Yeah not easy downing a bottle of whiskey or vodka without anything to take the burn away |0 You are doing a great job looking stupid by yourself|1 Mid February Pakistan news outlets reported China made a purchase of 300000 250mg tablets of Chloroquine Phosphate Article has said it wasnt sure which form was used Im pretty sure some of the 200000 they had immediately delivered were for these clinical studies So unless they altered what was delivered theyre using CP Not sure if this helps but Im following the developments of CP as best I can|1 R conspiracy|0 Sadly this is also a common occurrence at my work anyway had a couple people shooting up in them as well once lovely stuff|1 Remindme 10 days I agree with this statement|1 Thank you Will reformat|1 Halfassed lockdown that specifically exempts the UK for no reason isnt rational though I feel like a lot of Trumpsters will pretend all the criticism about this decision will be from nuts who still want open borders But it can validly be said this was a political move to scapegoat the EU for our own flawed reaction to a pandemic|0 What notable has happened today Keep seeing posts saying about how we should be worried today but cant find much information|0 Korea is doing well|1 Its still better to have kids hanging out in groups of a few friends rather than 30 kids in a classroom maybe a hundred kids at lunch maybe a few hundred kids at a school assembly|1 They arent a good source of useful information at this time but I do think the people are doing the best they can and that we will only see useful mortality rate and severity information in about a month It seems like its pretty widespread going by the fact that something like 20 million people are quarantined and it spreads beyond the quarantine anyways If mortality rate and severity rate are real low it will be less worrisome to me personally|1 no other details Dept of health havent even updated there bloody site yet|0 No warning happened overnight I found out on social media before they notified sellers So much for small businesses selling online to help make money though this That is my biggest channel at busiest time of year|0 Everyone should repost this on social media straight upIts a nonpoliticalnonpolarizing message that even the naysayers cant discredit|1 Good stuff take care On the first study of late january by doctor Wenxin on his 300 cases 41 of them got infected at the hospital They came for other disease or to get tested but didnt wear mask wash hands and there were no separation with the coronavirus patients|0 There not testing because they know it is everywhere And unless they need the hospital there is no point on testingWhat u dont seem to understand is that this has Been around since before November Chinese doctors were talking about an influx of pneumonia cases in November I didnt even vote for the government we have but even I can understand there measures maybe it is because Ive watched this from the start At the start of January I was insane with fear the who were all like its nothing to worry about Whilst the death rate kept going up But no one cared cuz it was China Please stop spewing the media to me when they have been lying and manipulating this whole time|0 Where did she go to get the test I was thinking they were going to send people to ERs and youd be stuck with huge facility fees|1 All the exsmokers are currently jonesing like a motherfucker from this thread|0 Agreed Its pretty insane how people panic this is in essence very similar to any other seasonal flu with the exception that we dont have a vaccine for it That point should be being rammed home by the media instead it does make for pretty scary reading if youre a light consumer of media the BBC comments are rife with racismThats England at the moment the very worst in society have been emboldened by the rightwing revealing the rot it makes one ashamed to be British Its another form of illness its obviously contagious but sadly there appears to be no treatment|0 Lets hope not and he is wrong|0 Part of me feels like I need to play this game but part of me feels like Im already living it|1 Same I just tell them to wash their fucking hands either way because its gross not to Its the least they can do One coworker even started talking statistics about coronavirus with me and I stopped him midway and said idgaf wash your hands Its fucking nasty when you dont My hope is to embarrass them enough to wash their hands which is a ridiculous thing to ask apparently|0 I am American and I live here and I am trying to understand the complacency At least Trump who is an idiot came out with a plan that sounded active rather than just throw up your hands People need to hear that there is a plan not just trust us its science but there is no data no explanation no numbers just vague phrases like we cant possibly put old people in quarantine they would get lonely WTF Lonely or DIE which one We cant put in place govt actions to combat loneliness There is something in the British mentality that people are sort of bowed over by upper crust educated or smart people Its the class system I think Who do you think you are to question the UKs top scientists I would say though that maybe its just because the Brits are very resilient They are a very hardy people and have weathered a lot and are a lot tougher than people think But I think in this case that people need to stop grumbling get angry and demand action and accountability now not later|0 He was a vlogger idiotOn illegal platforms smart move He had some of the most insightful and intelligent citizen perspective I had seen coming from WuhanSuch as In his totally unqualified opinion as neither a public health or public administration professionalAnd he was silencedYes because clearly he has an agenda which is false The Party loves the mantra Seek truth from facts youd think hed know about it And here you are making idiotic comments about him and I can tell you have not listened to one of his vlogs What a shitheadWhere exactly are my lies Hes not qualified to talk about the situation in an authoritative and undermining manner Pretty simple really At best his vlogs target overseas Chinese who have nothing to do with what happens in China Not actual work and very far from proper journalism and documentation He presents a biased eyewitness account at best and encourages the government to crack down on human rights workers and journalists further and increase the complication and penalties for accessing foreign websitesEveryone is angst about the mass quarantine but Ive yet to see any alternative plan proposed when the latest prediction to hit the news from academics puts the number of infections peaking at 500000|1 Im sad too Our office is open and operational so Im going into work so my staff can work from home theyre both higher risk than I am so it makes sense but I take the bus and am scared of the exposure there At least there are less people on buses now|0 Live in a capitalist society what do you expect You can pay for testing|0 Unfortunately theres no saying what the situation will look like in a couple of weeks Everything could be fine by that point or it could be total chaos Very hard to tell Looking at China it took them 3 months and a very forced lockdown to get the situation somewhat under control Somewhat Its still far from over I hope your parents keep a close eye on the situation All the best to them|0 Spanish flu death toll is estimated as anywhere between 1750 million people WW1 40 million people died and between 7085 million people died in WW2 Russia alone had an estimated 26 million deaths in WW2|0 Yes that is true I meant to say he had those as well which must have really sucked Did we ever find out if those were secondary infections after he got the coronavirus Or vice versa|1 He believes a flu vaccine can be used to eradicate the disease He is a fucking moron What medical degree does Pence have that qualifies him to be in charge of this situation He needs to put people that are qualified to handle this situation in charge and stop sticking his head in the sand|0 Oh my god like half of total tests are positive right now This is crazy Imagine if that applied to the entire shipCruise industry is gonna take a harder hit|1 Case Fatality Rate|0 i dont claim to be perfect i just keep myself as healthy as i possibly can and dont spend thousands of dollars a year paying a company to give me cancer|1 Let the boomer virus be free|1 Ok so that post is showing the total increase which is going up from the beginning but new cases are slowing down day on day Eg 100 new cases yesterday 80 new cases today 60 new cases tomorrow and so on and so forth I dont have the stats and dont have time to look for them but I read it on WHOS website yesterday I dont think they showed stats|1 All good haha I like your take on my analogy too Ive done the same thing many times where youre responding to your interpretation of something or a single idea rather than the article as a whole Youre responding to the inference people will likely make because of what the headline implies Im responding to that in the context of the entire piece thinking youd only read the headline Were mad about the same thing actually which is kind of funnyYea and youre absolutely right Social media and just the sheer volume of content inevitably means reduction And thats one of the nice things about reddit as a media platform You have the jokes and the bullshitting which is great but at least you can have a dialogue like this Wont ever be top comment or anything and were probably the only two people wholl read this but this wouldnt happen on Twitter or Instagram Id think you were stupid and youd think Im an asshole and thatd be that Lol and thats exactly where weve ended up as a whole at least in the States hopefully its not as severe where you are In short Democrats think the Republicans are assholes and Republicans think the Democrats are stupid Its much more nuanced than that obviously but theres no trust between either party and the whole system is a mess And of course I place the blame on the team that Im not on for that mess but I really try to understand the other perspective I can hate the opinion but not the personTake abortion I think it should be legal and I dont even think you need any law saying so Thats 1st Amendment for me baby If 1st Amendment doesnt protect a citizens right to domain over their body then what the fuck are we even doing here The other side doesnt see it that way They see it as straight up murder because they believe life starts the moment that child is conceived and that child has its own Constitutional rights I say science says otherwise Their biggest motivation for this belief is religion and often nonreligious people dont fully appreciate how deeply held those beliefs are Thats not what makes it through the noise on most platforms though because thats complicated and nuanced Instead its this side is all sexists and misogynists and the others are the baby murderers and that fits in a tweet Theres a middle ground on that issue as there are on most but everyone is too entrenched to want to even try to figure out what it is Figuring it out requires flexibility and compromise which is messy and takes time Fuck these people dont give them an inch win or die trying That couldnt be simplerReally Americas 1st50th largest problem is Citizens United That has fueled everything and whatever any politician wants to say or pretend to believe most of them fucking love it They love it because it has turned politics into big business and gets big business into politics The amount of money the fame the airtime the wealth they all get now from that they all love it and it is a select few that want to give it up in earnest So thats a change that truly needs to come from the people I get the corporate side too If youre allowed to do it why wouldnt you Hell if youre publically traded Id argue youre legally obligated to And this is an issue with bipartisan support like this seems to be the only issue the two sides strategize on a bill was just brought up in the house that proposed repealing it with bipartisan support Probably most people havent heard that Good they dont want you to Never will get heard and it does there will be those roadblock non starter issues in there The USSC was just brought a case that wouldve overturned it but in all honesty I think they did the right thing not litigating that case MA brought the case as a political stunt it seems because the case doesnt seem sound enough to warrant the USSC overturning a decision thats only 10 years old Im not a lawyer but their argument was that forprofit corporations free speech rights were limited because being for profit meant tighter restrictions on donating That didnt really address the reason Citizens United won so the Court would have been forced to overturn that You could probably argue that hearing the case would bolster moneyspeech And thats the insidious thing about CU the logic for moneyspeech and corporationspeople is legally and Constitutionally sound So it needs to be an Amendment I think you could even get THAT done Old school 34 of the States Demand it basically be referendumstyle peoples vote 3 debates 1 hour each and ban any other advertising and campaigning because that is what we are voting about Easy argument to make that we cant have that because the whole reason for the vote is to determine if that corrupts the whole process 3 hours of debate demand it be on primetime network TV because of the no ads and I bet you youd get enough people in 34 of the states to Amend Lol sorry for the rant but this is something Id love to see happen|1 They do and thats why we have to limit their power and uphold freedom They shouldnt even have the authority to do the patriot act But thats what you get when you say MY GUY is good we can give HIM too much power|1 Wow really had to make that weekend bank|1 Yeah at least us grocery workers have job securityAlso security in the fact well definitely all receive the virus|1 Covid19 is spreading quite fast also in other countries but the daily situation reports on the WHO site httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019situationreportshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019situationreports show that China has by far the highest number of fatalities 35 as of Feb 28 while other countries combines have 14 From what Ive found in the media a lot of Western cases are mild partly even to the point of people not noticing they have an infection|0 You can go on vacation in the Netherlands and upon return go straight back to work helping elderly potentially infecting them there no protocol stopping it the only protocol is washing hands surfaces and do not shake hands that last one is really important as president of the Netherlands sayd this he shook hands with an old person and laughed it off|1 You want our elders to die to ease your own discomfort Sad|0 There could be many more people infected than we know but we cannot know for sureMost of those confirmed infected as of today in China were really infected twothreefour weeks ago Infection to onset of symptoms looks to be more in the 56 day range may last even to 14 daysthe time from symptoms to get testingtime to get test data and procces it then some time to anounce those testing resultsIts not like testing is done and results are known as soon as first symptoms usually mild at the begining appear Backlogs also exist tooPeople who are getting infected left and right now outside of China will become confirmed infected about at the middlenear end of February Deaths will show just a little bit later then panicking begins outside of China but really its too late to panic even at the moment Now it is just too early for mass onslaught of official confirmed infectionsdeaths outside China|0 Newspeak Straight outa 1984|1 Its gets us a pretty fitting acronym China Obfuscates Viral Information Daily 19So theres that|1 This has been spreading since Jan Realistically theres probably 10k cases in CA alone still in Incubation phase Next 2 weeks are going to be March Madness|0 I have a wedding in 5 weeks Should I cancel Wow this is terrible|0 Lol dave chappelle|1 For me this looks more and more like plague inc In real life where the player made the mistake and skilled on lethality too early|1 Now you know how the monkeys and animals feel when they are trapped in cages is this real even Sounds like they are doing well enough to scream their best and loudest|1 Wtf did I ever say that opiates werent addicting|0 They also dont get much vitamin C over there|0 Please keep in mind the lack of testing In China they are doing antibody studies to determine the true rate of infection compared to the known rate Looking back at their data they now estimate that for every single death there was a minimum of 800 infectedSo take each death and multiply that by 800 Then realize China built 14 hospitals and flew in 150000 additional healthcare workers in under a monthThe rest of us do not have the ability to bring in more people We are not building hospitals we are not testing in fact many people do not even take this seriouslyItaly has been hit so much worse than China The United States is about to be pummeled so much worse than ItalyAt this point denial is the biggest enemy|0 No Im very healthy In fact Ive been a personal trainer competitive coach and bodybuilder for 10 years|1 Yes Share it widely Kaggle may be a good place to share|1 Dont forget turning a blind eye to Government Sponsored Goons groping you pawing through your stuff and confiscating your soup but not your knife|1 Aussies Well fark mate we are up the duff with our self proclaimed Pentecostal Psychic Prime Minister Time for another brewski |1 Yeah beause Trump cares about international experts I dont think hes even said one word about this hes too busy admiring the shit storm he created that is now his impeachment circus|1 Any thoughts on if black seed oil would be of any use against COVID It appears to have had some success httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3847425 against HIV|1 everyone is going to lose their jobs either you quit now voluntarily or in a few weeks or a month from now your job wont exist anywaysThanks for confirming my original thoughts about you This is the single dumbest thing Ive read yet You have no idea what youre talking about|0 The numbers for the US are meaningless We havent been testing We have no idea where this is|0 I genuinely think a lot of people just havent grappled with the problemI was just chatting to my Dad He says things are better in the UK because we havent shut the schools yet and that our healthcare system is way better than Italy or ChinaI explained that there were more hospital beds per person in Italy and China than here and the ratio of ICU beds to the number of people who might use ICU He sounded a bit shaken and said but the numbers dont look like that is happening here yet do they I pointed out that it was exponential growth increasing at the same percentage every day and asked if he thought there was any reason we wouldnt be like Italy within a few weeks He was quiet for a bit and then said well well all get through it|1 1 I signed up to teach Geography not be put at risk from a virus2 I earn a lot less than in other sectors after 26 years experience and an MA this is a vocation3 Im just a divvy Geography teacher how can I lead anythingIll still be going in Ill be making videos for my classes that are fun and light hearted despite having an elderly mother kids and a sick husband when if we shut This is a light hearted post to show what its like in schools I take my hat off to doctors and nurses and they obviously are doing a FAR more important job than me but grow a pair I have to do that every day facing thirty bored 16 year olds and an hour of methods of erosion|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The world watched as China dealt with this since November and realistically did nothing We as a whole are all responsible|1 Im here in Vegas too and Im surprised they havent closed the school districts myself|1 Just be happy you are informed and you can pass that knowledge onto those close to you if theyll listen|1 Europe is not a good example Many countries are fucking up the response almost as much as the US Look at Italy Poland or France Or the UK if you count it as Europe read how Trudeaus wife got infected|0 Me too and Id take lunch trays back all quarter a piece Good looking girls usually flirted their way out of payment I wasnt a great business man lol but made around 100 dollars before I talked a little too loud about it and someone got pissed Id made that much and reported me to the man|0 Thank you so much for this|1 China is trying to spin this to blame it on the West Its their fucking virus Next they are going to call it ItalianFlu|0 Didnt they do that yesterday They said no travel to the infected parts of Italy didnt they|0 I use it to stay in touch with older family members Yeah I get it delete Facebookprobably should Idiocy can be frustrating or entertaining I choose to view my little selection of idiots as the latter|1 Agree it is not possible Awareness to hygiene and reducing visits to public places will go a long way|1 Needs to be tried internationally for crimes against humanity This makes the Bush Administrations war crimes just some light treason|0 The beginning of the pandemic was December not now And the US learned from Chinas mistakes Wuhan has been closed since January 21 Severe travel restrictions in place now in the US for two weeks Seems pretty controlled to me Sorry reality doesnt fit the doomer narrative on here|0 Funny im an american myself speaking the truth and getting downvoted for it lol|1 Market is already panicking|0 yea what youre saying is true but I still feel that people will be scared to go to italy even after its kind of contained Do you know what I mean Like no ones going to South Korea Hong Kong even if these might be the best places to be right now to escape the virus|1 httpswwwforbescomsitesjeffreydorfman20180708sorryberniebrosbutnordiccountriesarenotsocialistYou mean capitalist countries with no minimum wage|0 Shit i was literally just there when you posted this Had a guy in my class coughing slightly and i immediately sanitized my hands after i left One of my classes is starting to swap to online work and is telling us its fine to stay homeBut It just takes one professor to not care to cause plenty of people to still come to class Honestly if it starts to escalate here i give it a couple weeks before were all doing work from home|0 Keep wasting those limited healthcare resources Nice job|0 When we start quarantining comments you know its serious|0 Youll probably notice hospital capacity and a number of other variables really dont seem to make too much of a big difference at scale The thing thats going to come into play that really effects case fatality rate is rate of spread how fast people are getting sick and needing to be admitted for some kind of treatmentIf rate of spread were to be slowed significantly and the impact on the healthcare systems could be spread over say a 2x 3x 4x or longer period of time the outcomes are far far better This is where national governments can really hope to move the needle once this is a pandemic Lockdowns may help significantly quarantining may help significantly we dont have enough data at scale yet to know for certain though|1 Trying times like these really bring out the inner monster in people|1 Fuck em all They only live for themselves|0 Yup how does being on a ventilator with pneumonia for 2 weeks sound to everyone I mean if youre young and healthy youll probably be fine in the end and wont die but its not exactly something Id like to go through How about two week quarantine in a temporary hospital 24 hours a day surrounded by other sick people when this thing gets bad hows that sound to everyone Sound pleasant How about a huge economic hit Everyone acts like if you dont die then itll be a walk in the park and no big deal but theyre failing to see the whole picture|1 Not Americas sweetheart |0 I see a lot of people saying Its not totally effective people dont use them correctly etc Thats not the point Its not about protecting you individually Its about bringing the R0 down so that the hospitals are not overwhelmed Everyone should be wearing a mask in high density areas|0 The whole financial system is screwed up This is a chance for change Its never going to keep working with 1 having the wealth and 99 scrambling to survive with whats left If we learn anything from this virus maybe we can finally realize that we are literally in this together on one planet There is more than enough to go around its just all skewed at the moment and nobody should have to live under the stresses of this unbalanced system|0 Fair enough This will be bigger than 911|1 Right So annoying I feel like we might as well start a new game at this point|1 Healthcare workers who contract COVID19 will treat patients while infectious but asymptomatic its inevitable The masks are for that purpose as a failsafe They also disproportionately expose themselves to immunocompromised patients compared to the average individual making the above logic more important|1 I am absolutely correctThe number of ventilators in Canada are publicly available informationThe 5000 is the people currently on ventilators who are expected to surviveWhat is 245 million subtract 5000Thats is how many people will dieOur predictive model from University of Toronto puts us at 70 by the end of april without any drastic action|1 I think its already obviousHe s gonna die from the virus and people will panic around the world|0 Well played|1 1 Thats not a vaccine its a therapeutic Very different2 His work was published in PLoS One While thats not a predatory journal if it were truly revolutionary he would have had no trouble publishing it in a better journal If thats all he can manage the science is probably not quite as great as he tries to sell it as3 There are plenty of funding mechanisms available If he has to resort to IndieGoGo its because he couldnt convince anyone at the NIH to even give him a small grant a small R21 is about 125000 a primary R01 grant is about 250000 Hes asking for less money than the NIH will throw at risky ideas Why Probably because he cant write it up in a grant in a believable way4 Outside of the NIH biotech startups are all the rage and theres plenty of venture capital being thrown around If this were really effective investors would be lining up at his door throwing money at him to get a piece of it Why not Once againit probably doesnt work nearly as well as he says it doesYes there are issues with what gets funded and what doesnt but man 100k is nothing in scientific research If he cant get private investors on board or get the NIH to give him a grant it means a whole bunch of scientists in the field have looked at his idea and decided it doesnt seem worth it|1 IU is about to do this as well|1 httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019situationreportsChose situation report 46 released on 3620 the information is on page 2Even The WHO that is covering things up and waited forever to call it a pandemic has to post real information on its own website if you really look for itAccording to the WHO of people who have COVID1915 are severeneeding hospitalization and requiring oxygen but not critical5 are criticalrequiring ventilationSo total of 20 hospitalization34 died|0 Youre right this is an unpopular opinionThe common man needs that kick in the ass to take this seriously unfortunately its quite hard to get them to understand it is indeed serious without also causing extreme undue panicEDIT Fun side note I just talked to my fiancee who is the manager of a grocery store in the US part of an upscale Kroger like semi nationwide chain and she as well as the rest of the managers have been asked to take this week offthey have been assured they will be asked back to work sometime next week Not sure if its related to the virus but its certainly concerning as this is a high volume store and they havent had any issues keeping things in stockThey are finishing up today but everyone has been asked not to come to work for the rest of the week|1 That is a suitable punishment|0 No but you can get gas and air and multiple other pain relief options that can be just as effective when combined or even more Women should really be more educated about all the alternatives they have|1 Check the Korean CDC website for the best statistics available anywhere globally Its a very clear age distribution|1 That is true|1 How severe do the existing health conditions have to be for them to report that My dad is 79 and has asthma and COPD but to see him in the pub or shop you wouldnt think oh yeah that guy has underlieing health issues|0 Oh I was thinking about the vaccines in the end haha How they drew numbers to be vaccinatedbad analogy|1 No theyre not being realistic at all with how big the emergency is and how much money they should be spending It should be in the multihundreds of billions range and it should be spent you know as soon as reasonably possible to actually get something done besides burning piles of money|0 facebook has a bunch of idiots circlejerking each other with absolute nonsense back in the day only friends had facebook now all the nutjobs who can barely turn a computer on feed each other with a bunch of nonsense i seriously think we need more moderation and not less free speech does not mean for me to harm people by insulting and harrassing them spreading dangerous misinformation in times like these and being a sociopath i would rather think of a website like a restaurant where people come because they want something that is on the menu in case of facebook that is contact with other people if these people behave like absolute fools and harass the other guests every restaurant owner has the right to simply kick them out the same should and must apply to social media how social is it really to foster these nutjobs|0 Not sure about anywhere else but my brother went to BC hospital for getting tested as he travelled through Taipei They tested him right away and called back in 4 days to provide the resultsnegative|0 At the start of his speech I literally laughed out loud as he was touting his exploits of banning travel from China as to how good his response has been then he goes on to say that tests still need to basically be approved by the CDC and federal authorities before people can be tested I honestly dont see many improvements to the situation we already got and after listening I still feel like we are way behind other countries|1 Haha I figured My fiance asked if taking off gloves with your mouth is the proper technique and I wanted to puke lol|1 Youre definitely not alone on this Im moving this weekend to a bigger apartment and Im terrified about getting sick before then or during the moveplus my mom is flying in to help and the airports are ground zero sometimes I have late stage lyme disease thyroid issues and some other health conditions so I really need to be careful Ive had a daily fever for the past few months due to my condition so Im super paranoid about any new symptoms that arise I havent had any coughing so I should be good for now but who knowsI also have traveled for work every week since the middle of Novemberbesides this week Working from home in the immediate future as Im a software engineer so Im grateful to have that opportunity Denver already has quite a few cases too so even going out to the store or to my doctor makes me nervous Ive heard people coughing in my apartments hallways as wellPeople have told me Im overreacting but I dont think so I canceled my trip to Italy in April since the whole country is locked down but even as recent as yesterday I saw people on the Rome subreddit still planning on visiting What the hellpeople are so selfish Even if they dont get sick they can still be carriersThe thing Im most terrified about is spreading this to my grandfather Hes fighting mesothelioma and Im genuinely concerned that either I will give it to him or he will catch it elsewhere He lives on the opposite side of the country but I want to visit him before its too late yet I dont want to make it worse eitherOk rant over But youre definitely not alone and Im so glad this sub exists|0 The tests were defective The whole operation was botched|0 Your heart rate has nothing to do with blood pressure|0 This needs an unto you and it would sound like a Jesus quote|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 ok that sounds awesomehttpsmedia1tenorcomimages46b6d83306265d78e8e9eb7d217f0811tenorgifitemid16168687So whats the weirdest thing someone has put in your hotpot|1 Theyre handling it aggressively like South Korea and Singapore and Italy are sounds good|1 OMG I was trawling through your comments and posts and well apart from it showing you being a racist and ignorant woman you also said this 305 days ago LOLYou were adopting an antivax stance Murdered by your own words Dampsquid27305dThats so hyperbolic There is a dangerous precedent being advocated here Its not currently compulsory and I see no apocalypse|0 I become jealous at my laptopYou know it has antivirus|0 I was following the news on another forum completely but all the information there pointed directly to where we are now Im a pessimist and the projections even at best are frightening to me but I am glad that I was aware of this at the end of January and have had a full months headstart on preparing Sounds silly I suppose but my best to everyone I hope we can get through this with a minimum of loss of life and with our families intact|1 I didnt anticipate how utterly clueless Trump is I should have My mistake Quarantining millions of people is the logical thing to do in this scenario Thats why more and more countries are doing it The US may not do it soon enough which will only make things much worse a bit later I still think well be seeing citywide quarantines in the US soon ordered by city mayors and state governors who will fill Trumps leadership vacuum|0 It doesnt say that denial is worst than panic it says that its more common and that it is the real problem since real panic is very rare But it is written that panic is worst|0 Delay is actually better Lessens the strain on hospitals by spacing out the number of patients over time More people live because there are ICU beds If it spikes all at once death toll will be very high|0 HEB is encouraging seniors use carryout and delivery services bc they said that a store gathering of a vulnerable population sounds more dangerous|0 That being said Ultra in Miami was canceled so thats probably for the best|1 The main point of wearing a facemask is to prevent yourself from spreading it to othersI dont buy this at all The virus is carried through droplets the mask is a 2 way barrier As a thought experiment imagine 2 people facing each other 3 feet apart A is infected and coughing B is notIf we posit that A wearing a mask reduces the risk of infecting B significantly more than if B wears the maskWhat if we place a giant mask 10x10ft directly in front of A Is the effect still more beneficial than if its directly in front of B What if its moved gradually closer to BThe way I see it the statement only makes sense as a way of optimizing a limited supply of masks A sick person wearing a mask is comparable to every person they might infect wearing a mask optimizing their value|1 UW Virology Lab tested 1680 people yesterday 7 positive httpstwittercomUWVirologystatus1238604104647114754httpstwittercomUWVirologystatus1238604104647114754UW Virology by the way WANTS people from other states to send in samples because they are operating below capacity They believe they have the capacity to test 4000 people per dayQuest and Labcorp are estimated to have a combined capacity of 5000 peopleday httpstwittercomCOVID2019testsstatus1238574948110696449httpstwittercomCOVID2019testsstatus1238574948110696449THeir positive results are sent to state organizations but its unclear how many they are actually testing relative to their capacity The CDC if you look at their webpage only lists information from CDC and Public Health Labs University labs and private labs and state labs are not included in those|1 I am frustrated with those who behaved so predictably by ridiculing the uncomfortable truth Others just ignored it I stopped trying to warn them Now they want to know I hope they gather enough food because I will not feed them Simple minds Fearful people Theres some uncomfortable truth|0 United States I have multiple medical device companies sending big purchase orders|1 I think I was a part of the test group for this on Thursday I ordered beans and pasta sauce on Instacart and saw the leave at my doorstep option for the first time The delivery person still knocked on my door but I pretended I wasnt home Felt like kind of a jerk but I didnt want to take the risk Gotta avoid those droplets|0 True that We are in better times|1 The testing just helps to identify people so that they stay away from others If you think you just have a cold you dont normally quarantine yourself If you have corona virus you do need to quarantine yourself to control the spread|1 What were seeing now is the result of permitting federal agencies to forsake commitment and become incompetentTitle Date LinkCDC closes labs over mishandling of deadly pathogens Jul 11 2014 httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvtx5gqYXB06g CBS Evening News subtitleFor the third time in a month the CDC acknowledged deadly pathogens were handled incorrectly in government labs Dr Jon LaPook speaks with CDC director Dr Tom Frieden about his response to the recent issues Jul 11 2014 httpswwwcbsnewscomvideocdccloseslabsovermishandlingofdeadlypathogens CDC says it improperly sent dangerous pathogens in five incident in the past July 11 2014 httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnationalhealthsciencecdcsaysitimproperlysentdangerouspathogensinfiveincidentsinpastdecade20140711acd55bfc088211e4a0ddf2b22a257353storyhtml WashingtonPost quote The CDC disclosed the incidents in a report Friday detailing safety lapses that occurred last month when as many as 84 workers may have been exposed to live anthrax after employees unknowingly sent samples of the bacterium from one CDC lab oth other CDC labsCDC cheif admits pattern of safety lapses after mishandling anthrax other pathogens July 16 2014 httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnationalhealthsciencecdcchiefadmitspatternofsafetylapsesaftermishandlinganthraxotherpathogens20140716af778ce20cfe11e48c9a923ecc0c7d23storyhtml WashingtonPost quoteNoting that Frieden had made similar promises to improve safety training and accoundability when other incidents have taken place Rep Fred Upton RMich said Why should we believe you this time that things are goinf to be differentCDC labs repeatedly faced secret sanctions for mishandling bioterror germs May 11 2016 httpswwwusatodaycomstorynews20160510cdclabsecretsanctions84163590 USA Today quoteUSA TODAYs Biolabs in Your Backyard investigation has revealed hundreds of safety incidents at public and private research facilities nationwide and highlighted how many university government and private labs have fought to keep records secret about incidents and regulatory sanctionsCDC secretly sanctioned multiple times for mishandling bioterror pathogens May 11 2016 httpsarstechnicacomscience201605cdcsecretlysanctionedmultipletimesformishandlingbioterrorpathogensARstechica quoteHowever the CDC said that all of the cases were not a cause for concern None of these violations resulted in a risk to the public or illness in laboratory workers the agency said OP Note TIL Luck is an important factor in conducting federally funded healthcare work Cant wait for the FAA to adopt a wing and a prayer as its mottoCDC labs sanctioned for mishandling potential bioweapons May 11 2016httpswwwengadgetcom20160511cdclabssanctionedbioweaponsengadget quote USA Today unearthed all these info after winning a Freedom of Information Act appeal filed after it found out last year that 100 labs in the US faced federal sanctions The publication says the new information that came to light proves that the CDCs facilities have one of the worst regulatory histories in the country Despite the repeated sanctions and suspended permit involving fatal pathogens the agency assured the publication that theres no need to panic It told USA Today that none of these violations resulted in a risk to the public or illness in laboratory workers|1 Very smart They should have lots of signage up in front of hospitals too|1 Ehh freezer has been full of meat and its the season I butcher my turkeys anyway Turkey duck chicken venison and rice it is If I get stuck at home Ill be eating better than I normally do when I go to work|0 Its usually exhaust from burning of fossil fuels|0 Well heres the thing it might be callous but I usually try my best to wash my hands and cover my coughs when Im normally sick but I dont tend to put myself in quarantine Thats because most illnesses dont have anywhere near 1834 CFR and Ive got work to do and bills to pay I really would like to know when what I have could be killing 3 out of every 100 individuals I am callous but not that callous|0 you cant get tested because they have not tests Trump refused the testing kits from the WHO and the ones firstly created by the CDC were faulty|1 I am not scared at all|1 As soon as it became apparent we would need to start testing last week they sent out an email last Wednesday telling us to not collect any copays for anyone in the ER anymore to make sure people wouldnt be financially impacted by needing testing And we are a large for profit system I am glad we are doing something right especially after hearing your story For many people 250 would not be feasible or affordableGood luck I hope everything is ok and comes back negative|1 Geez thats scary|0 Like theres no fucking chance only 12 people have it at all|1 We wont have the balls to do that Rather let the elderly die they are just a financial burden to the government anyway|0 httpsmthepapercnnewsDetailforward5934173 heres the police reporthttpsmobiletwittercomMerlotNstatus1227399250901794817 and heres the tweet with videos from the super market She was mentally unwell according to the police report but yknow Also she stabbed two people and I guess they didnt die according to the police report so attempted murder|0 The fiance would be happy he thought I was vastly overdoing the wedding thing as it was The venue is an old train depot and guest list was to be around 80 Worse comes to worse we could still get married at the depot I already have the damn dress lol with just a small handful of our closest friends I actually was going to try to go to the courthouse and just get married so he could get on my health insurance we have been together 9 years and are practical peopleJust sucks already put 200 deposit on the cake 150 deposit for a bartender 200 deposit for the food and 150 deposit on the venue Maybe with 10 people we could have a baller cake and meal food would be from our favorite BBQ restaurant 5 minute walk up the road feast like kings LOL|1 Not anymore bitches|1 With big events like this theyre using their own funds along with all ticket sales to organize it Hoping they can recoup it all afterward A lot of times the costs and fees are nonrefundable to them Thats why tickets to stuff like this are also typically nonrefundable They probably dont have the money to give back because its all been spent organizing and securing stuff for the event|1 Football cancelled soaps cancelled Domestic violence is about to go through the roof in certain parts of my city|0 It depends on how long this lasts Personally my gut tells me to tell you yah we are fucked|0 People might drive more themselves out of fear of public transport so accidents might actually increase Plus everyones head is so messed up now it probably affects concentration too|0 Thats true and very scary|0 Certainly not trillions of USD theyve dipped into a 100M fund to prevent a market crash|0 Rudy Gobert a Utah Jazz Allstar was seen intentionally touching mics and recorders He tested positive today He has played against a bunch of other teams Expect more nba related cases soon|1 It wasnt so much the fox hole but the fact that the second wave came through like a freight train over the course of like 3 weeksPhilly literally had bodies piling up|1 The virus shouldnt have fucked with him hes hard as a bloody nail made from stainless steel|1 Same in germany Ridiculously they went ahead with the carnival even though there were confirmed cases in Germany|0 In the end South Korea might not be missing that many cases The IFR might land somewhere between 0210 with massive bias towards the elderly However this is bad enough in a naive population with no immunityEven South Korea might miss many cases due to 1040 could be asymptomatic and then there could be loads of other people who are infected but think its just a cold or that the symptoms are so mild that they dont even think theyre infected|0 I think it still works for reducing the chance of the person wearing the mask infecting others which sounds darn right neighborly of people wearing surgical masks|1 Hopefully all the passengers will be provided with good food and lots of free cruises in the future I can imagine the risk of civil unrest isnt zero Its not like they can physically lock them in their rooms if they decide to riotit wont be pretty However many of them are probably scared of catching it so maybe thats enough incentive to keep them in the room|1 No hes the worst of it but parts of their conversations and guest selection are more revealing than the avg|0 I seen that paper It is not peer reviewed and I believe those Chinese Scientists who wrote the paper were speaking of people who had an ancestry of super cold and super hot So they were not speaking of ALL white people only specific and only specific people of African Ancestry But this paper is not peer reviewed so it is not worth much other than interesting that these Chinese Scientists are trying to figure all they can httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200126919985v1fullhttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200126919985v1full Also to add the Chinese Scientists who wrote the paper were basically saying it is less harmful No one is immune|1 Im okay with it being normalized Fatality rate is very low|0 If they decided to fast track or ignore all the regulation safety and multiple countries globally were putting up government funding How long do you think it would take|1 Thats awfully condescending everyone plays a role in society and they deserve to be wellcompensated for it|1 rChinaFlu was really good before the swap now its a weird blend of conspiracy theorists and doomers and normal people|0 Okay thats fair In that case I really dont understand what strategic advantage downplaying it and ignoring it for so long could provide him|1 Yeah they did the same with a British person who as a joke coughed on a plane It was all pitchforks and burn him at the stake all British people are horrible when they travel blah blah blah Now an American was infected and got on a plane its all defensive ahhh well she was locked up on a luxury ship who can blame her Wtf|0 It will be the same fuckwits who say that Vaccines are dangerous and the earth is flat Natural selection at work|0 Damn Im in Asia My friend is a judges assistant Every officers and court staffs wearing mask here except the judges because they will look notrespectable and also it looks bad for them like idiot elite person could have mask while some people cant even find one|0 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Presumably the no existing conditions will be lower than the baseline age group but by less and less with younger ages Id expect because a lot of these conditions are age related It would be interesting to see what a healthy 80 would mean How many 80 are there with no preexisting conditions of any kind|1 In Shanghai where I am everything bar schools and the entertainment industry are open Its been a good run without traffic jams on the roads but even those have come back the past week Subways are quite deserted outside of peak hours and buses are usually less than half of what it used to be from my experience|1 Given your location and density you really have no choiceThey do have a choice they just chose to have competent government rather than the dysfunctional stupid ones around them|0 I was in Taiwan visiting family from the end of January to the middle of February so I got to see the response pretty closely I actually was also in and out of their hospital system not as a patient during that timeI honestly probably wouldnt pick an island unless it was Taiwan Even then I would have to think about itAs amazing as Taiwan has handled the coronavirus they have been able to do so because of their previous experience with SARS and the fact that China the WHO and pretty much the rest of the world is offering very little assistance So theyve had to go at it alone Taiwans success isnt directly attributable to any one point Being a small island definitely helped but I believe that a much larger part of their success has been the governments swift response and the people and culture I dont know if there would be another small island country that could have mounted such a quick and effective responseThe reason why I would hesitate to go to any island Taiwan included is because its an island You are physically isolated from any larger land mass Taiwans success has been because of their preventative measures What would happen there if there was a large amount of spread I still think they would handle it well but at the end of the day its an island|1 The cleaning products are irritating my eyes and the advice nurse told me to wear these |0 Hmm Id say the traders are waiting till the last minute to sell A big drop like this tells me theyre spooked theyre the guys you watch for a sign a day or two ahead of the MSN Faith in government and banking intervention likely outcomes share forecasts All points to an ugly immenent pictureEdit much trading these days is computer algo Once a critical mass sells they all sell|0 its not a disgusting mentality being a janitor at a hospital in no way gives this guy the inside scoop|1 The government have probably looked at the pensions pot and reached an honourable decision|1 I usually sit down at every restaurant I eat at even the fast food ones I dont like trying to eat and drive or eating cold food|0 My guess mostly selfcongratulatory bullshit about how he banned travel from China|0 WeChat he studies in China so its quite easy He goes back to NK twice a year though but then he needs to change SIM cards etc in order to call and communicate with his friends there|1 We are pretty much powerless to stop your obvious trolling yet i hope your government will be as effective as mine to lockdown your country|1 Its so sad we have to wait until more countries are infected until we can get trustworthy data on the virus|0 It is amazing that given these constraints it was still able to spread so quickly Im not saying this to dispute the informationIt is very gross to think about how much fluid from other people probably gets deep into your lungs on a regular basis|0 And its not like there havent been different shocks on Chinese manufacturing in the past SARS trade wars SARS China was way less connected with the world than now And the trade wars have indeed speed up the decoupling the outbreak have made it worse|0 That might be infected people that could not get the right medical care wuhan hospital was overwhelmed at beginning All the cases outside China are pretty stable|1 This is the military triage model as opposed to the civilian modelBothall types of medicine rank mass casualties in the same way Theres a pretty standard international scale to determine severity of injury likelihood of survival Nonurgent lessurgent urgent emergent resuscitation Basically a scale from theyre fine to theyre dead All assessments military or civilian use the same scale The difference is that when resources are limited and the system is overwhelmed the two worlds prioritize patients oppositely In the civilian realm the sickest patients get the highest priority In the military world when there are too many patients to deal with they prioritize getting the healthiest ones out the door first The idea is that if they worked on the sickest patients the whole system would collapse and nobody would get treated properly At least if you shift to the healthier ones you can pump out a far greater number of treated soldiers who can go back and fightAnd when civilian systems start seeing war numbers they also shift to the military modelWe are now at war with this virus|0 Attempted murder The point is for a serious felony like attempted murder bail can be denied and they can keep you locked up till you are no longer infectious|0 I would want a piece of the richs information Thank you|1 Sure I wasnt trying to help the 4chan folk Just wanted to make sure that there isnt suddenly a rumour going out that people in China keep warm by burning coal at home|1 When you teach your citizens only to trust their government and no one elses this sorta happens|1 I dont blame them I was angry too The stores being wiped clean isnt because everyone bought one or two these pieces of shit are vultures|0 Why isnt there a use a bidet moron movement|0 God he had reached the level of permanently cooked|1 Touch screens controllers and headsets what could possibly go wrong|0 No tons of apartments are full of undocumented migrant workers and such Foreigners have to register where they live with the police but normal people Not any more or less than any other countryThe Hukou system not really a translation its like a family registry binds to you an address in a community in your hometown but people move all the timeReddit gets a lot of things wrong about the Chinese mechanism of control your arm is only so long as your ability to touch something Chinese law and order has a long arm but a short reachI have heard of going doortodoor checking for sick people but that would be in the migrantfarmer communist era remnant communities and the more organized apartment complexes but a lot of these big buildings have seemingly nobody living in them Also in a lot of these places the guy who would be in charge is the guard who is usually always asleep at the desk 247I think a good explanation for a lot of these videos where theyve like found quarantine breakers and are leading them down the street amateurishly bundled together with cheap nylon rope are just overreaching men who have never been asked to do their jobs beforeSo like yes the old ladies who hung out downstairs and observed my every coming and going would notice me the foreigner who lives there but not necessarily be aware of all the Chinese occupants|1 This is proof of western countries neglecting to test cases unrelated to China Horrible|0 Gloves would be a really good idea I do work with a computer at college Hopefully college closes down soon since I do IT anyway there may actually be no delay concerning my grades Im upset about the food situation in supermarkets people are just going through everything I hope it does not get to a point where ecommerce stores are unusable to us all Good luck with your job Ill be thinking of your safety Thank you for your reassurances At first I thought those first 3 or 4 cases in the uk would clear up I was quite wrong for thinking that|1 Same here 7 people infected no airport control carnival parades were cancelled to prevent spread but people still put costumes on and went to bars so much worse than a parade cause its a closed place and did their own parade Many many people in my country are old and if the virus spreads were going to be in big trouble People should be more concerned Even if they arent in danger they can spread the virus to someone who can die by itGreece|0 There are no trends that we can see Nobody has been reporting data in a consistent format for long enough that we can deduce any trends|0 This would make for an interesting survey Which age group is most likely to practice social distancing and take this seriously Outing myself as a millenial here my friend group has been watching in horror what happened China and prepared accordingly Parents older colleagues and employers all complain Weve been through much worse Everyone will get it anyways Its not worth destroying the economy for Sure this is all anecdotal Thats why real studies would be very interesting|1 Is it Cause you seem to have missed the point of my username entirely|0 Death rate is currently estimated at 20x the seasonal flu|0 Yeah that 1 for a yearold game is going to make the next one so much more affordable|1 I work as an English Teacher in Madrid The government declared all schools from preschool to university cancelled until March 30th but it begins Wednesday the 11th we still have school tomorrow Not sure why but maybe to arrange childcare There are rumors that staff may still be required to come into work in certain schools but my school has not confirmed|0 Yeah sheer stupidity When its not near us we feel like it wont ever get us|1 Because they want equal rights for Coronavirus|1 That will hold until the food runs out Then people will start getting nasty|0 1 Shareholder invest money into companies so that they can grow Why do you think anyone would make any investment if they cannot get return of their investment2 Majority of debt airlines would need to pay after they stop flying excluding labor cost would include lease of their aircraft and other property|0 Run a humidifier in your home If you dont want to put out the money for one fill a stock pot with water and put it on a low boil itll help add some moisture to the air |1 I feel safer in Seoul korea rn They are testing and treating aggressively Its free and all data is transparent in close to real time|1 Theyre probably screaming to have fun or chant It makes zero sense for people to just start screaming but apparently this sub thinks that the apocalypse is coming|0 Thank you its good to hear read those words Its really stressful |1 He said the virus has an exponential growth|1 There definitely is a culture of wearing face masks in China Part of it is the pollution but part of it is that people are used to wearing masks when they get sick It was common to see people wearing masks in China long before the outbreak but you never see people wearing masks in the USA|0 Part 22 Accepted Article It is unclear how the identified sequences relate to the ongoing SARSCoV2 epidemic although the identification of these sequences in the cells and tissues of animals in the proximity of the outbreak epicenter suggests that environmental surveillance should focus on adventitious agents in cell culture and the nearby aquatic environment Materials and Methods RNA extraction library construction and sequencing RNA extraction library construction and sequencing was performed previously by Zhong XP et al and Adams MD et al and uploaded to GenBank on the expressed sequence tag est database Genetic bioinformatics and phylogenetic analyses Translated nucleotide BLAST tblastn database searches were performed by searching for SARSCoV2 protein sequences Supplemental Figure 1 in the NCBI expressed sequence tag est database Two cDNA clones were identified and accession numbers are GE213092 and JK8513291 Standard Protein Blast was performed using the identified protein sequences against the NCBI nonredundant database and Clustal Omega was used to align protein and nucleic acid sequences Phylogenyfr One Click Mode was used to align curate generate the phylogeny and for tree rendering This article is protected by copyright All rights reserved Accepted Article Conflicts of interest I declare no conflicts of interest References 1 Corman VM Muth D Niemeyer D Drosten C 2018 Hosts and Sources of Endemic Human Coronaviruses Adv Virus Res 100163188 2 Li X Zai J Zhao Q Nie Q Li Y Foley BT Chaillon A 2020 Evolutionary history potential intermediate animal host and crossspecies analyses of SARSCoV2 J Med Virol 3 Liu Z Xiao X Wei X Li J Yang J Tan H Zhu J Zhang Q Wu J Liu L 2020 Composition and divergence of coronavirus spike proteins and host ACE2 receptors predict potential intermediate hosts of SARSCoV2 J Med Virol 4 Lai MM 2003 SARS virus the beginning of the unraveling of a new coronavirus J Biomed Sci 1066475 5 Coleman CM Frieman MB 2013 Emergence of the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus PLoS Pathog 9e1003595 6 Zhong XP Wang D Zhang YB Gui JF 2009 Identification and characterization of hypoxiainduced genes in Carassius auratus blastulae embryonic cells using suppression subtractive hybridization Comp Biochem Physiol B Biochem Mol Biol 15216170 7 Adams MD Kelley JM Gocayne JD Dubnick M Polymeropoulos MH Xiao H Merril CR Wu A Olde B Moreno RF et al 1991 Complementary DNA sequencing expressed sequence tags and human genome project Science 25216516This article is protected by copyright All rights reserved Accepted Article Figures Figure 1 Clustal Omega protein alignment of A C auratus SARSlike coronavirus sequence and BtCoVA10182005 and B C idella SARSlike coronavirus sequence and SARS coronavirus TWHP1 This article is protected by copyright All rights reserved Accepted Article Figure 2 Clustal Omega nucleotide alignment of A C auratus SARSlike coronavirus sequence and Bat SARS CoV Rs6722006 and B C idella SARSlike coronavirus sequence and SARS coronavirus BJ202 This article is protected by copyright All rights reserved Accepted Article Figure 3 Phylogenetic position of C auratus SARSlike coronavirus sequence The evolutionary history of the C auratus SARSlike coronavirus sequence and a number of coronaviruses from different clades was inferred by generating homologous amino acid sequences using MUSCLE multiple sequence alignment and Gblocks 091b software followed by PhyML and TreeDyn software using the Phylogenyfr One Click Mode This article is protected by copyright All rights reserved Accepted Article Figure 4 Google Map of both the Institute of Hydrobiology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Wuhan South China Seafood Wholesale Market The Institute of Hydrobiology is pinned and a distance measurement to the Wuhan South China Seafood Wholesale Market is shown|1 This Thank you Ive been trying to get this across to people to show why its so bad there among other variables like population density and different culture|0 Unfortunately I cant read Italian so I cant read this article however yesterday I saw a post about weed doesnt killharm the receptors that cigarettes and tabacco does However this is just people on Reddit talking and there isnt enough research right now on that topic Here is the post I sawhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgoux7ifyoureasmokertheliningofyourlungsisutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshareI hope you can get something to help you out besides opioids|1 Jan 23 rd i first posted about it We talked about it at work the next day as we make relevant products still ignored Now scrambling doesnt begin to describe it and working from home isnt fair to those who cant It lessens their exposure too but tell the Repub corporate CEOs that|0 We need an app like Tinder for all the 6th friends|1 I feel like this too I have pretty low expectations about a good portion of society but I dont think the government lying to people effectively manages that Worse given that its a freaking pandemic you want people to take social distancing seriously and but the governments actions dont actually communicate that Instead you have people who get confused from inconsistent messagingI think more trust in government would help more than it would hinder but they have to show its serious and that theyre treating it seriously to generate that|0 Thanks that makes sense|1 Money money money this is their mentality just sickPeople might be offended but I am sort of thankful for the virus as this kicks us back to what we really are but what most of us have fogotten humans|1 Im glad they are finally admitting which seems pretty obvious given how contagious this is Maybe we will get lucky and develop herd immunity over the next year as everyone will get exposed|1 I know this is to prevent a run on supplies but some people are berating the idea of purchase of masks rather than just wasteful use of them But if you do get sick isnt it better to have a box of them at home that you can now use rather than trying to obtain them after the fact when they are either more difficult to obtain price gouged to the needy or causing risk to everyone you come into contact with when attempting to purchase themYou can be careful like crazy but even the best laid plans can fail If so then its better to have a contingency|0 Well India lacks the hubris of USUK They know they lack hospitals and beds particularly beautiful beds So India has already shutdown schools in major cities and cinema halls in the capital sporting events are made online only and aggressively tracingisolating 1000s of people who came in contact with 74 people Each phone call is preceded with a message about precautions Borders are closed people are aware and trying to maintain the social distance I have heard of many events voluntarily postponedcancelled So theyll should do fine|1 Classic idiot move Havent had a pandemic in years Why are we even funding this|0 We have two settingsDont give a flying fuckAbsolutely panic and shit the bedWe havent yet adjusted our position as a nation|0 Hah what a strange bot I love it|1 We have 10k bars and 25k restaurantsYou have to understand just how many people are going to be out of work overnight Landlords except for one or two feel good stories that get pushed to the top of Reddit are telling people to get a different job We need a mortgage freeze in order to then have a rent freeze but thats not happening What is happening is an evictions freeze which means that everyone is going to get dumped onto the street at the same time So no Im not optimistic|0 Im not saying theyre not risking Were literally in the same building with each other Precautions are just null and theres no messaging from higher to lower in terms of actual preparation One case in my hub and it will spread like wildfire And Im not talking about money its about the safety Managers are fine in the end because they do in fact make a significant chunk more than the peons handling the packages Im just relaying the fact that youre doing great wash your hands is unsatisfactory and downright ignorant|1 Has this new Surgeon General given his stamp of approval on screwing pornstars without protection|1 well do I have a song for you httpswwwyoutubecomwatchveamRjDJNDds|1 Do you honestly think I will see one penny of that stimulus money|1 Slightly jokingserious the tourists stuck there that survive will have the most unique stories about their trip to Italy Everyone else has almost the exact same story and pictures from their vacation in Italy Well when I was in Rome we got stuck under quarantine during the coronavirus outbreak|0 Lmfao jesus christ this is why they get away with it they dont give a fuck about you looking like honestly is this a middle school mindset or something|1 Dutton has also exposed the Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and others in their cabinet to COVID19 but Scotty is still planning on going to the weekend footy and his wife is speaking at a massive Hillsong conference in Sydney this weekend too Not setting a great example for the country|0 these guys should know i we think theyre pretty great right now and they deserve some special recognition at the end of all this|1 I was going to make a post about it but copying the source information and having to tailor it specifically for Reddit formatting is incredibly tedious probably would have to work on it and submit it later tomorrow Its because of a specific FDA regulation created from Section 564 of the Food Drug and Cosmetic Act Simply put that when the HHS Secretary declares a Public Health Emergency in this case its COVID19 that all In Vitro diagnostic for detection andor diagnosis of the virus that causes COVID19 has to meet strict guidelines for testing Furthermore all test kits has to be FDA approved by Emergency Use Authorization EUAs lettersAll test kits that received EUAs from the FDA httpswwwfdagovemergencypreparednessandresponsemcmlegalregulatoryandpolicyframeworkemergencyuseauthorizationSection 564 of the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic Act WARNING Super boring mind numbing reading httpslegcounselhousegovCompsFDACMDpdf|0 I made reservations on AirBnB for October Sure hope this thing is under control or over by then|1 I think we bought the supply not the medical help|0 They will still have to have a supply chain just reduced to essentials The problem is more how society goes forward with a heavily constrained economy|0 And yet 80000 of us dorks on reddit knew for a month|0 And who knows they may be Its not something Comcast announced to the world they just sent us an email saying hey we get it if you cant come in due to schools being closed use personal timewhich we get plenty of if you need to quarantine we will put you on paid leave for 14 days after that we may need to put you on short term we get paid full for up to 8 weeks Also were upping your pay we get its hard but our customers need us in times like this more than ever Im the type where Im appreciative of all of it so Im very thankful I know theres a couple grocery stores around here that are union so Im sure they are getting paid more out of fear everyone will say nah Im going home I also read that in China the health care workers were getting paid more so lets hope|1 Not at all I am saying that they threw everything they had at it to no real effect until the aggressive treatment which worked very wellEdit aggressive experimental nonapproved originally intended for Ebola treatment|0 But if no one is worrying thats when you should worry|0 Because americans are reacting to the official numbers Chinese are reacting to what they see not what they hear Mass quarantine means there is a huge problem the govt is likely hiding|0 I do too But they really should just say that instead of lying about mask effectiveness and the reason why wearing a mask is effective even if not displaying symptoms Some people have masks on hand and should be using them And everyone can wear some form of mask even home made so long as it completely covers the skin around the mouth and nose This really helps stop spread of viruses|1 The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks It is because I alone of all the Greeks know that I know nothingSocrates|1 and stupid RedundantTrue they already said American|0 No Not a pile Its a stock tower Try harder C|0 Yawn Just stay the fuck home and dont wear a mask|0 So far the studies I have seen indicate that incubation time on average is around 6 to 7 days 14 is in the upper range of observations However my understanding is that covid still has a significantly longer incubation time than the flu|0 Billions and billions of authority|1 I had it too and it was right after all the students got back from China also it tore threw my office like a whirlwind seemingly no one was immune there are no tests There are no tests The numbers are all fake there are no tests|0 You dont need an account to view most of the content in the pathway However the 7th asset in the pathway is an assessment quiz which does require a free account So if you want to test your knowledge we recommend signing up Its completely free|1 Unless you have hundreds and hundreds or thousands of cases most of these countries still have a solid chance of containment SARS had a high R0 rating of 2550 and was contained in Hong Kong with nearly 2000 cases and in 90 of ways was similar to this virus And this is hong kong one of the most densely packed cities in the world Right now most countries are rapidly tracking down cases and clusters as fast as they pop up Eventually as time goes on there is a good chance that the clusters will be contained and we wont have to worry about a new one popping up If enough time goes by you can reasonably declare that you have contained the virus Unless of course you have a steady stream of infected coming in from other countries Then you will be endlessly trying to contain clusters Even if you manage to contain them all it requires a tremendous amount of resources and many of them will get out of hand quickly One infected person in a Toronto hospital infected 50 people with SARS I dont agree with a travel ban I do think the 14 day quarantine is a better idea for new arrivals|0 You drank a whole case Haha I would diagnose something else|1 You shouldnt have told people about this exploit because I want to use itYou should tell people this exploit so NYTimes doesnt lose money and die as an institution even though if it has a leftwing biasI dont know whether to upvote or downvote and the fact that someone spent money to give you gold instead of pay for a subscription is strange to me unless they have tons of money to throw around and want to support both reddit and nytimesStrange world we live in|0 But then you need to factor in the side effects of your proposed therapy into the calculus The incidence of hyperoxaluria in patients on vitamin C is listed at 110How many kidney stones would you trade for a 8 reduction in length of stay 1 kidney stone admission 310 days in the hospital depending on severity and need for surgery not to mention the small possibility of lifelong kidney disease as a result Low harm x lots of people significant number of patients harmedThe hospital beds argument cant be meaningfully argued without more data Public health people arent just making this stuff up its been deliberated over extensively|0 Different people Some are worried some arent Doesnt matter the occupation|0 This is what Helpers do Ordinary people doing what our shitty governments cant get done Get your brains working people were gonna hafta save ourselves and each other|1 In Singapore you can get a 1000 fine for spitting in a public place|1 Fuck you robot I will not yield to you|0 Of course You have reaped the blessings of Christianity now throw it aside right When the suffering comes back your kids if you have any will come back to Jesus begging for help Europe is already in decline Birth rates are plummeting You have negative interest rates Recession is the new normal Youre importing Muslims from the ME to replace your numbers You mock Christianity but in 20 years you will be forced to pray to allah five times per day Oh the irony|0 Yeah but some of them did do so much for us Some of them are people who have raised their children to be decent adults some of them have spent years working to help other people teach other people etc Its not like every single older person voted for the Tories or Brexit and its not as if voting that way means you deserve to die a painful death either I get that it is as meaningless to go on about what that generation did for us as much as it is to go on about what they messed up its just more about recognising that this is beyond politics this is individual people who deserve a chance not to die at the hands of a virus the spread of which can be prevented or at the very least slowed downcontained somewhat|0 The health minister of Phuket said he has been instructed not to release information about infection numbers There are no valid numbers coming out of Th right now|0 One thing that bothered me though With how quickly the virus killed its victims would it really have continued to spread as long as it did|0 Yes I had the same Eureka after the first few times I came across it while browsing Reddit Refused to look up most acronyms And it is rewarding AF when you figure something out|1 I had something similar early January and the doctor said theres been a lot going around that is not the flu but with fever and cough |1 Thats actually not common sense at all Going to the ER when youre sick is standard practice in the US What percentage of the population watches press conferences And why in Earth would they This guideline needs to be publicized with PSAs before we can get self righteous about the public not knowing what we only know because were spending all our time on Reddit|0 Dude the Chinese government which is going through a potentially regime shaking crisis is not going to spend time infiltrating Reddit to shill That simply isnt happening|0 Youre gonna get this virus Thinking you can avoid it is laughableHarvard said 3070 of the population infected within one year While I definitely expect to catch it and roll the dice on how bad it gets halfish of people wont catch it apparently|0 Holy shit take this |0 Its not shortsighted they just want money and dont give a fuck about anyone else but themselves|1 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 No the guy whos post the mod deleted The guy was a troll I cant even remember his name I think the particular post said that the virus isnt killed by soap|1 Its mainly in my head There are loads of Facebook groups dedicated to recommendations on Netflix join some|1 n95s fail after about an hour This is a big part of why the CDC said not to wear them I doubt most people will have multiple masks to swap out throughout the day|0 Im glad you think my worldview is demented all I said was that its not a realistic scenario to shut down all international travel Something that is much more realistic is allowing all citizens to return to their home countries and shutting down all other travelNobody should be going on international vacations right now and business trips to SK but people abroad cannot be stranded|1 The world isnt watching the US we have our own problems|0 Health care expenses have been on a crash course trajectory for some time The situation is worsening Covid19 targets the ill but also the old and wise Reducing population Thrown under the bus when other more progressive measures would cut health care costs|1 Per the WSJ the conservative narrative seems to have changed from anyone can get tested people are just too lazy to look up how to do it to Testing people doesnt cure the disease so theres no use in testing peopleAnything to justify how much of a failure this administrations response has been|0 This is NOT a champion spreader IN THE LEAST A champion spreader doesnt result in Italy and Iran numbers it results in Wuhan numbers EVERYWHERE IT GOES and it simply cannot get that kind of purchase outside China for some reason|0 this must be a joke|1 Employees need permission from employer before doing something that requires authorization from the employer This is a nonstory Its a bummer theyre being shady but theyd have to get approval in any scenario They arent suppressing freedom of speech or anything|0 Im on a MS medicine that kills your bcells I hate hearing people minimize the risks saying its just the old and the ones who are sick that are dying|0 Didnt the province say that theyd waive the minimum hour requirement Perhaps Im quoting another user who was misinformed but I saw people discussing the waiver this morning|0 My org has us rotating every week Some will be in the office and some wont It is completely pointless as far as the virus goes a cough is a cough and were still sitting pretty much next to each other Like many have said I believe its just oldschool mentality that we cant get as much work done as in the office|1 I would think that it would be better than nothing I know your SpO2 levels can drop at night with sleep apnea Usually more than 3 desaturation However its only designed to pressurize the airway and move past the obstruction They work on the premise that your lungs are fully functionalEdit also I dont think they supply additional oxygen If you had a CPAP and some sort of oxygen tank yes It would help|1 Nah You sound confused by the analysis which is pretty straight forward if you know molecular phylogenetics You are putting terrorist infection and other random unsupported ideas on an equal footing and it isnt You may convince people who know nothing about this but it is strange to me that you are yelling about dangerous but trying to shut down rational analysis which is extremely helpful in determining how to fight this|0 Its free here in Hong Kong too and our taxes are low 15 on all earnings no sales tax The tests can be made free in any country in the world if theres sufficiently strong leadership at the highest levels of government|1 Ignorance will always be alive and well Nothing can fix it|1 Good for you You deserve an award for this|1 not good|0 I never thought air quality mattered before I moved to UtahGood lord was I wrongIf you consider moving to Utah check out the place youre moving to in person if at all possible ideally in the winter when the air is worst and temperatures are most miserableHonestly really nice aside from the asphyxiation though|1 Which is all speculation and estimations Im not particularly against these university studys as its common knowledge among my friends and family in china that there isnt enough testing kits and that the cases are likely a lot higher but they are speculations and should be referred to as such|1 Yes|1 Lol your flair and username I love it|1 It hit HK and Canada too with 17 fatalities China reported 5 like they have here|0 Same here She never gets sick so assumes she wont have any problems|1 I dislike our entrenched politicians as much as the next guy but I have to say wishing illness incapacitation or death on anyone is going too far for me|0 I have an interview Monday and they just told me today they are going to do it virtually now Its a final round interview Hoping yours ends up being the same If not Id say only go if this is your dream job or you really need it to survive financially Otherwise dont go|1 Thats still pretty disproportionate even in the severe group Dont like half of all men in China smoke It seems unlikely Hubei would buck the trendThats interesting|1 Unfortunately I cant provide a public repo yet until the paper is accepted and published Academia is not friendly|0 Man Some people trust authorities way more than I could ever manage|1 Haha exactly|1 wink for help|1 CCP bots and the fooled|0 I read a paper that was done after a surgery nurse asked if her farts would contaminate the room They were surprised that no study had ever been done but they took turns farting through clothing onto petri dishes and found that the clothing filtered the particles out quite nicely httpswwwredditcomrtodayilearnedcomments5yj2h2tilanursewantedtoknowifherfartswere|1 I already had it for sure back in december I lived and was social but self contained by wearing gloves or never touching public surfaces and wearing a mask at work to contain my fomites Anytime I needed to cough without a mask I pulled the neck of my shirt up to my nose|1 Here is a Reuters reporthttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthtaiwantaiwanchinaargueoverflightsforstrandedtaiwaneseinwuhanidUSKBN201067 on the incident It is not clear if China had informed Taiwan about the infectedsymptomatic passengers onboard the evacuation flight or if those passengers were properly isolated during the flight but the presence of infectedsymptomatic passengers on board does not seem to be in dispute and seems like a bad idea for an evacuation flight|0 I noticed that your post had 0 points which is odd as you would automatically get 1 point for posting Anyway I added my thumbs up so youre at 1 one|0 Are we going to die Fucks sakeIve just cleaned the car |0 You poor thing Its such a nightmare Im really struggling to work out whats being caused being a bit sick and whats being caused by being very stressed Hope you feel better soon and they shut schools ASAP|0 Im definitely at the angry point The level of dismissal and mockery is over the top and the lack of empathy of people is mind blowing |0 We better learn because China learned early on that welding people in their homes was ineffective They separated infected people from families and isolated them in fever centers They tried to make those centers as comfortable as possible and made sure that people confined to homes got food deliveries|1 Personally I think the infected CFR is lower The average CFR in China has been 23 This number comes from the diagnosed patients in a situation where hospital capacity is limited testing capability is restricted and people are even avoiding hospitals if possible due to risk of being exposed to worse infections they already haveIt is likely there are 1030x more infected compared to diagnosed Although people have died in home too this would result in a much lower ICFR This is still not great but better than 1|0 There is big cities in the northeast with heavy tourism too and the coastal cities here in the south are having tourism because of summer and the Carnaval people tend to go from the capitals and interior cities to the coast to enjoy the holidays new years eve and of course the street carnival|1 The benefits of not having learned to drive |1 But Paris Climate agreement was fuck the west give 2 billion dollars to ChinaThey literally had no way to control that money even gets spend on fighting global change It was just subsidizing other countries with a promise to be responsible with the money It was a horrible agreement and we can do far better|1 Trump fired our ambassador to the EU so uhhh This guyhttpsuseuusmissiongovourrelationshipourambassador|0 This is ridiculous It might be the best scenario if this causes mass infection during this event Its going to be spread anyway And it might actually show how severe the situation is If a mass infection does happen might actually wake someone up to do shit and cancel anything similar to this in the future|0 Thats not a good thing thats a disaster|0 Same here in Cambridge UK Totally insane|0 Definitely have sex with Emma Stone Rule 73|1 Seriously No shit|0 Arent these data exponential growth of data collection Theres no way these numbers can be used as characteristic of what NCoV isdoes|1 This reminds me of Elon Musk offering to build a cave sub in the Thai pedo guy cave incidentNice thought but the real world doesnt work like that tech bro|0 random chinese siteIts making the news worldwide you dense fuck Keep that rhetoric now they know about it and said theyre going to look into it is good Do you even know how ridiculous this sounds Oh now that they know well all be fine haha nothing to see here folks|1 Youre under the assumption that the people controlling the money and resources give a shit|0 I believe Florida is screwed as well|0 No they will not|0 What condition Coughing for weeks Thats not really an underlying condition If coughing had been serious she or he would go to see someone This is anxiety I am trying to say chances are everything will be fine|1 Nah|0 Imo opinion the clinical tests are very reliable CT scan confirmed cases usually show infection in both lungs vs one lung for regular pheunomia Coupled with other symptoms likes breathing difficulties common this also leads to low blood O2 levels coughing sometimes fever sometimes no sore throat common no running nose common etc You pretty much know youve contacted the virus I mean some people literally have both of their lungs turning fully white in the CT scans and dying from shortness of breath in 34 days but were excluded before|0 Its called being proactive and not reactive Italy and Spain were too late waiting until things were already out of control Shutting things down early may be painful in the short term but less painful in the long term|0 I was out buying cough medicine and supplies I overheard an older couple explain to the sales associate that they had just got back from HK They couldnt believe America had run out of masks They went on to explain they came off an international flight fullon expecting a two week quarantine or separation and faced no types of screenings or anything They went on to further explain they had been in mainland China then HK to the USI dont know what a couple in their 50s would gain by lying to a sales associate in casual conversation They didnt sound crazy they just sounded sick and concerned and informative I guess not hystericalAnyway presumably they came out of PDX and faced no screenings or checks and said they were surprised there were so few contagion type questions by officials on their journey here Im astonished PDX had zero screening efforts but also sort of not really|0 Ohactuallyhow much you want to bet the trump administration asked Fox News to start changing their tune so when Trump announces this is serious its not the flu heres more restrictive measures we need to take his base will be more receptive to it We know Fox News communicates with him|1 Utter garbage It is down to wellunderstood models evidence and pragmatism about human behaviour Thankfully not down to ignorant conspiracy nuts on the internet|0 Dont look at it that way Its fine to happiness hedge I took money out of the stock market in an attempt to have more money in the future My actions are overall more harmful for everyone than a bet between friends|1 Americans are so work focused so they go to work sick a lot of people live off of restaurant food where one sick worker could infect hundreds in a day We also have the highest obesity population in the world which puts a lot of people at higher riskHonestly I dont know whats gonna happen in two weeks|0 It only kills old people|0 I wasnt referencing myself I was referencing America in general I play a popular sport There are no zero options for American made shoes Period|1 Become an online doctor and get paid for virtual work online Honestly youre better off quitting and working for anyone else Doctors are in very high demand right now|1 That is a bastardly oversimplification and you know it Take a look at your biases|0 Heh its fun when you cough and feel like you may pass out Im pretty sure I had pneumonia last year and went untreated Dizziness from coughing in hindsight was a bad thing|1 HAH AwesomeThat being said will Americans still be able to get the vaccines when they are released to the public I hope its not assumed that all of us support this guttercunt|1 I watched that press conference this guy i immediately like for some reason could tell he was a legit dude Sad and shameful for the US government acting like China|0 How long can he quarantine himself though Its not you become immune after a 2 week quarantine Would suck if he did it stepped outside and caught it|0 Are you clinically insane We are at the mercy of the government Please explain to me how I can tell hundreds of people on my commute to please avoid me regardless of what Boris says Would you care to beg my employer more than I already have done to let me work from home and be met with the response were following government strategy Its barely worth responding to people who think the way you do|1 let them not care then|0 The long tail can bite you when youre too confident|1 Yes my last name and my fathers last name is Soros I assume you thought it was in reference to George Soros This might rattle your smooth brain but not everybody with that last name of Soros is related to George|1 Got a headache Drink some waterThat sounds silly but the most common cause of a headache is dehydration and our bodies are pretty damn bad at telling us we are dehydrated and need a drink especially if that dehydration was onset artificially like by consuming alcohol or coffee|0 interesting decision buckle down|1 Thats tough I hope they close the doors when the state declares a state of emergency|0 Are we sure its the cytokine storm|1 Good chance that those morons buying a life supply of toilet paper are not in that 60|1 I really hope its alot less but I cant see it the global deaths will be insane|0 Love them|1 Damn Im after the Pacifico virus|0 Agreed|1 That is helpful to a degree but if that person engaged in risky situations such as flying or attending an event with over 100 people you need to add that in|1 Seriously hurrr durr let me just stay home and go bankrupt Are you paying my wages No Alright then looks like i shouldnt care what you say|0 Yeah but just remember that the doctor healing them might just have a family at home suffering and suddenly the money might not be worth it anymore at that critical moment|0 It is easy to build a bunch of new buildings subway lines or hospitals You just have to brute force it throw money and manpower at it the China wayThe hard part is making sure that the quality of care is actually and consistently delivered Not to mention icu at top hospitals in tier 1 cities cost five figures rmb a night and China doesnt have anything resembling a comprehensive healthcare plan for seniors like the us Medicare So even if the supply of medical services somehow catches up chance is many Chinese people still wont be able to afford it This at a time when the population is rapidly aging and labor force starts to declineWhat China needs is a comprehensive overhaul of their entire economic model and mindset Instead of the wild goose chases of the China dream the singular obsession with economic growth the massive military buildup in South China Sea and throwing money all around the world with xis belt and road pet projects they need their own version of the Great Society and redirecting resources towards setting up and providing ongoing funding for elderly pension and health insurance programs at the National level Doing that would require China to sacrifice gdp growth in favor of quality of life and giving up xis delusion of grandeur of being the next superpower overtaking the us in economic prowess and world leadership Alas Im not optimistic that is going to happen|1 httpscommunitywindycomtopic5968accuratesulfurdioxidereadingsI think you are missing something prolonged release of sulfur dioxide probably would show up in the prediction|0 You bring up a good point I offered to make runs for my parents and a few others couple that just had a kid a few weeks back I figured the best thing to do would be to drop off the goods in a garage and let them grab it using whatever precautions they need gloves etc That way I dont have contact with them and if its nonperishable items they can let them sit for a while before grabbing hopefully any virus dies in that time|1 Side tracking Im from Portugal Dos you enjoy your visit here |1 Wait I can play DND online|1 No cough medicine for pneumonia Hack it up and spit it out|0 Florida man does something smart |1 At the same time I dont understand these people who refuse to utilize their own thought processes comes home from hot zone feels ill cant get tested so goes to work anywaywhatNot my fault they didnt test me|0 To be fair lets be generous and say that 25 require intensive care who become infected So out of every 100 people 25 would end up in the ICU Then 17 of those people would end up with ARDS and have a high chance of permanent lung damage Calculator comes up with 425 So for every 100 people 45 people might have permanent lung damage Scary regardless but for anyone emotionally overwhelmed maybe that would prevent them from going into full hysterics modeIm really worried about how totally healthystrongathletic people in the 2030ish age range with no medical record or any known health complications AKA me feel fine for a week or three and then suddenly realize their body is dying and organs fail or other terrible things Thats scary as hell to me Nobodys safe and anyone can experience that no matter how low the chances are|0 I think its important to emphasize the 80 mild cases include severe flu like symptoms up to and including pneumonia Too many people seem to think 80 just get a little dry cough|0 hell yeah brother|0 No one will be watching twitch but twitch will probably start setting records for the most streamers streaming streams|0 Hope he sends some toilet paper too|1 Interesting|1 My ophthalmologist told me I needed bifocals last year Ive resisted since then but I cant deny it any longer now that Im working on a laptop due to the virus Such a small screen|1 It does not in any form matter whom Id have preferred The topic was that is simply is not true if anyone states that the economy has never been as good as with Trump|0 Best place for a straight Chinese female to live in|1 Right like this is the humiliating part|1 I can understand his thinking but yeah Panic spreads faster than coronavirus lol|1 I guess that the double patients every two days maybe need some number of cases to be valid principally for differences in lifestyle if you have only one and its a hikomori then you will have a slower spread than if the first have a lot of social interaction I guessed that at some point those differences smear out giving the doubling every three days and that thresholds is the number of patients needed for that|1 find a meijer theyre all open 24 hours go at night to avoid the crowds i went last night and managed to get everything besides a loaf of bread also our water is really good throughout the state just drink the tap water|1 Ignorance For a man who wants to slash Medicare and social security funding a virus that is most dangerous to the elderly is an effective way of lowering the programs expenses Short term flu treatment followed by death is way cheeper than paying 20 years of medical expenses and monthly SS checks|0 Chloroquine lol its a generic in Spanish it is Cloroquina|1 The disease did not just happen its been ongoing for 2 monthsAs top ranked government officials this is unacceptable for their lack of accountability Its funny how grunts and normal everyday people are held accountable for little small things yet high level people like presidents and VPs can get away with these type of unaccountable actions|1 Crossquestion from rcoronavius but interested in more expert opinions on these questions How come some experts believe 2070 pf the world will be infected regardless of measures taken if China seems to have halted the spread at a relatively low number By when should the 2070 have happened Some governments such as the UK seem to take an approach where you focus on building herd immunity which as I understand it requires 60 or more to be infected Even with some spread over time given the exponential nature of the virus this probably means that around 2030 of people would need to be infected at once Given a low 10 hospitalization rate that would give 23 of total population hospitalized at any moment surely no country could manage this and death rates would soar Is the reasoning behind this strategy simply that we are fucked no matter what so might as well just not incur the costs associated with quarantines|0 germany blocked the the delivery of supplies to Italy|0 And this is with 169000 cases Imagine what it will look like when there is 1690000 or eventually 1690000000|1 But fortune favors the bold So Im boldly procrastinating|1 Run its course as in 1 year and maybe 2 years until theres a vax and herd immunity can be built in a few regions NEither the US nor Japan instituted total quarantines as they will be nearly impossible in the US Ever try to herd a MAGA or oathkeeper or any of the Daytona 500 attendees Shotguns wont work as they have AK47s More like military in troop movers and killings of the violators You cant stop these people Take them off the road Marauders were the problem in 1676 in England Marauders will be the problem this time|0 There were fines and jail terms for selling masks for profit before this week|1 Good move Thumbs up to Ontario government|1 Marked this with the successful conversations flair I hope you can convince him Perhaps you can stay at your parents for a few weeks to see how it plays out Otherwise show him the graphs comparing the US to Italy and how we arent even close to what Italy has done at our current time pointEdit Is he aware the hospalization rate of confirmed cases is 19 in NYC Does he really want to get hospitalized Maybe frame it from cost perspective|1 Fair enough At least at a comedy show I wouldnt be really up in peoples faces and rubbing against them constantly Good thing I have my tickets protected Refund it is|1 The FBI CIA and more notably the NSA disproportionately end up hiring Mormons because far more of them meet all of the backgroundcheck ethical legal and education requirements I can actually confirm this My family and I are mainly Mormon alot of my extended family have been hired by the FBI CIA and NSA|1 Yes but many are more harmful to the liver and kidneys than CBD Painkillers everyday are bad as fuck for your body CBD does not cause that type of harm|0 Guess we have to wait another few weeks to really draw any statistics Did the others infected that arent in that 36 serioussevere need to be hospitalized And presumably some were in that category but are no longer adding to the total|0 Masks work when everyone in the population is using them That demand is impossibly high These things are not meant to be worn more than 8 hours So one to two masks for every person every day for however long it takes for this to endIts an impossible number|0 These occurred after the wave though its a month into the quarantine and this is still happening there is no reason to think had China done it earlier there wouldnt be infection because we are at the end of Feb and a month into quarantine and countries still getting infected|0 I was trying to tell people yesterday again that its gonna be bad here Only 3 weeks ago Italy had 20 cases They said its just flu and Im paranoid Im not paranoid Im out with people Although that stops today daughters off school now too I just told them to let me know how they get on after they get it People dont want to listen to experts anymore not me the drs around the world Wed rather hear what we want to hear from Karen on facebook|0 Nor should they Hilariously in my department they used to let people work from home before I got hired Some of the people in that time moved out of city limits where they could afford to buy a house Then for basically no reason whatsoever after years of doing this the company decided to just cancel WFH They grandfathered in the people who had bought houses too far away to commute but everyone else was forced to go back to working in the office So they know exactly what is needed for people to work from home and they know exactly how to implement it They just dont wannnaaaaa|0 How soon into the crisis|0 He totally messed up that quarantine though It wasnt handled properly healthcare workers did not follow protocols And I think thats directly attributable to his laissezfaire attitude toward science and facts and his consistent messaging that this was not a big deal People look to him to be an authority On reddit you could see the problems the doctors forums didnt even caresmart people who just werent being informed properly of the risk by their superiors until recently like everyone else Our whole country has been lulled into complacency and Trump is a big part of that The only reason I suspected this was going to be a big deal was from listening to international news|0 I mean I am not cursing at you or saying this article is stupid butNO SHITWhy else would I be up at 2am getting depressed|0 Dont you just hate how fear makes you paranoid I discovered that Im prone to not go to places that make me paranoid not because I feel the fear is legit but because I hate that I react like that In France nowhere near a suspected cases location|1 You are the problem people who are like you will spread this virus to no end You think just because youre young and healthy you can get extremely sick and die Young people are dying toowell good luck when you need a Ecmo machine to breath and you cant get one because the hospitals are full of selfish people like you remember this before you take your last breath|0 No Trump makes shit up on a regular basis Thousands of lies so far|0 Europe and US dont look great right now and Im not very hopeful for Australia My guess is that New Zealand wins this at the momentIn not sure but this comment sounds like the making of a new game Risk COVID edition|0 While Ive noticed that Ive also noticed some younger friends from the other party not taking this seriously and complaining about cancellations and closuresI also dont think Mayor NYC Democrat de Blasio took it seriously enough as soon as he should have He was yammering on about disease detectives saying you couldnt get it from public transit less than 2 weeks ago March 5th That was on NY1 But there is other coverage of him telling people to take transit as usualhttpswwwmsncomenusnewsusmayordeblasiosayscoronavirusfearsshouldne28099tkeepnewyorkersoffsubwaysarBB10NXqlhttpswwwmsncomenusnewsusmayordeblasiosayscoronavirusfearsshouldne28099tkeepnewyorkersoffsubwaysarBB10NXql|1 Stop sharing your own preparedness and worry about yourself|0 letting it rampage through society and focusing the available resources on protecting the most vulnerable should be a backup plan the fact they arent even trying to go along with the rest of the world and actually stamp this out first its insanity|0 Even Nicola Sturgeon is playing political gamesEven Thats her default setting|1 Thats a shame its yet another risk of globalizationGet a chain long enough and one is bound to snap|0 In that case Id use it as soon as symptoms start hopefully thatll give you enough of a layer of protection|1 I completely agree about closing schools as of now most public schools are waiting until things get worse I dont get how these public schools can look at all of these college campuses extending their spring break and moving classes online and think oh well be fine I understand that college is entirely different from primary schooling but at the same time most children will not be missing out on much if they at least extended spring break by a week|1 I am not wearing a mask in public yet I cant advise anyone on the social situation If I were in Seattle I would be wearing one in public at this pointIts still winter and still cold in some climes Ive been wearing a scarf in public Its better than nothing|1 Its a scam to distract and provide cover for whatever it is that they dont want to cover Stop travel Sway the markets Free trade how about no trade I think it is working as much for Trump as against him if nothing more than post impeachment lubricant Of course its always best to blame your enemies since that has been working for them so far why stop nowAt this point Im convinced nothing is true and just disregard everything that they tell me to fearThe media and the Politicians playing the spin the media game are slitting their own throats to win 2020 I hope they all win that game Self sacrifice never sounded so good|1 OTOH things like Stephen Schneider imploring fellow climate scientists to offer up scary scenarios make simplified dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have and balance the truth with that along with the repeated failure of apocalyptic predictions have led the public to be sceptical of scientists|0 A good strategy is going to a very remote place There is a bunker for disasters in Antarctica Theres also the international space stationThis looks very much like a Spanish flu You have to remember that pandemic had a 2 mortality rate also which went up once hospitals became overwhelmed|0 I got an email from my waxing place announcing theyre not closing and they are just taking extra precautions to be sanitary Its not that I dont trust them to try But Im still not going in because this is so contagious I wish they would close for the employees health But idk if you guys are hoping to stay open like some food service workers|1 Thats fuckedAt least you got a response I cant get anything back lmaoIts annoying too because the mods for me at least have been fuckin great|1 Because people think like this httpsiimgurcombVONHBajpg|1 Selfreported data Trustworthy|1 A lot of these famous people are actively meeting medical doctors and people on the ground who are much more likely to have contracted with the virus|1 Let us pray for the health and well being of all the underaged hookers he had there at the time|1 And what exactly will make it bigger and nastier|0 This absolutely proves the rule that twitter is for the poorly educated Because there were more bullet points in the chief MOs verbiage than would fit on a tweet It is almost funny watching a world run by people who take tweets seriously It does indeed focus down on the nugget of interesting information at the cost of infantilising society Yes I am well aware that bullet points come from Powerpoint it was a joke|1 Are pandemics the solution to climate change|1 And whos gonna pay for those sick days if your company doesnt offer you And what about the low income workers who depend on their hourly wage to survive every single day|0 ohh ok|1 Just like its a false hope for the WHO that this is not a pandemic|1 According to the media covid had been around us for 6 weeks At this point I might as well just say fuck it and hope I get it sooner rather than later|1 The counterpoint to this is continually voting multipleterm incumbents out just results in fresh batches of less experienced legislators who will be influenced by far more experienced lobbyistsWhile I would like to see professional lobbying curtailed thats also not an easy problem to solve just as the problem of entrenched CongresspersonsforLife is|1 I love and hate the fact that we figured that shit out weeks ago but the socalled experts are finally catching up|0 chicken pox is far more benign than the flu 1 in 60000 die|0 school dorms yes but not quite as much An outbreak can absolutely happen at a school dorm pretty easily however students dont tend to spend all of their time in their dorms the way they do with cruise ships where they literally cant leave They will eat in other places and they dont have a food delivery thing like they have on cruises which allows for crew members who work in the kitchen to spread the virus very easily to cruise kitchens There isnt a pool for people to swim in which is another major vector of spreading the virus on cruises And people do their own laundry they dont have crew members doing the laundry where they can spread the virus to everyone when they clean the sheetsI am not saying its impossible in those areas But lets say hypothetically an infected person has a 5 chance of starting a large outbreak in a dorm they would probably have a 50 chance of starting it on a cruise and it would spread faster and infect more people Cruises are very uniquely horrible for spreading viruses pretty much nothing compares Its almost like they are built specifically to spread virusesIm not a major expert or anything just in my epidemiology class my professor went on and on about how horrible cruises are for spreading disease and how nobody should be taking cruises Cruises are a hot topic for epidemiologists apparently|1 San Francisco has a higher danger rating than Japan|0 Or are you just trying to say that as a foreign i should be quiet and say Heil to everythingWhat kind of basement level reply is this You complained Germany didnt inform about the coronavirus that news were nowhere to be found Me and someone else said actually it has been on tv 247 your answer to that is well I dont watch tv I am sorry but I dont know what to say to that Do you want to be informed or not If you dont want to watch tv thats ok but then dont complain there is nothing on tv Also having serious doubts this was written by someone who actually has kids and not by a teenager|1 Because this has nothing to do with running COVID19 testsThe null hypothesis to reject is that there are unrevealed COVID19 infections If this is the case we should expect clustered outbreaks indicated by local medical systems issuing an unusual increase in influenza like illness diagnoses We could then deduce from this that some of these are likely actually COVID19 Thats what we can expect with an increase in infections and an absence of tests So far we can reject the null|0 Lets stick to advice from there CDC and similar please or at least just dont take this in place of hand washing and such|1 People with the virus are being admitted if theres a clear link to an infected person or area and being treated Judging by the downvotes this sub is rnews and rCoronavirus rolled into one where hysteria and JC4PM is the only way to get upvotes rather than common sense|0 Dr Aylwald talked in his presser about going to an average Chinese hospital and seeing 5 ECMO units These are ridiculously expensive machines that essentially do the heart and lung functions for seriously sick patients He asked his colleagues all from the likes of NIH Cleveland Clinic etc how many they had at their tier 1 trauma centers One When every city is a megalopolis and youre not forced to divert half the available resources to insurance companies apparently you end up with good equipment|0 If China gets the virus again expect full on nuclear war or something equivalent|0 I think its airborne not simply droplet with how many it infects just by virtue of being in the same place at the same time with a single asymptomatic person But thats just me Take it with a grain of salt And if it were airborne governments wouldnt say that I dont think so People would finally lose their shit and probably kill each other at the supermarket|0 OP isnt wanting sick leave if his dad gets sick he wants him to be able to use his sick leave to not go to work now|1 I work in a lab and last week for Pi day they set out pies and donuts I did not get one of course but almost every one else did Ignorance will be the death of us|0 Then make the state pay for the reasearch id like to pay my taxes for that if then it is open source|1 Lol Stay safe my friend|1 Chinese Wuhan Covid19 Coronavirus Stop eating wild and exotic animals and endangering the lives of my family and loved ones|1 Guilty Game of Thrones fan noises|0 Of course not It would have to extend to any country with a selfsustaining epidemic to be effective|1 I know its gotta be in Montgomery so many people coughing and acting sick coming in to my work|0 Im supposed to have brain surgery out of state next month and we are playing it by ear just to see how many ICU rooms are open and just generally see what the fallout is at that point Its not elective and I have some wiggle room on scheduling as its not urgent but the longer I wait I risk having worsening permanent deficits so its a hard call to decide when to just do it|0 Dude you are seriously misunderstanding his point Hes just relaying history not saying he wants it to happen You are really spinning out here maybe take a Reddit break for a bit|0 People are scared and its easy to blame the amorphous other than deal with the reality of the situation|0 I do know China did it But its China I wouldnt expect to come that easy from any western societies|1 Thank you for those kind words I really appreciate it Stay safe|1 Are the bats okay Hope they are healthy and staying away from all the infected humans|1 Statistically very little chance unless Biden breaks down live on air|1 This is why I just touch what I need to touch and immediately whip out my travel bottle of hand sanitizer|1 What if someone gets infected on the 13th day but doesnt know it Dont all the cabins have central AC|0 Where the heck are you getting that from WHO just said yesterday that there is no therapeutic treatment for 2019nCoV|0 There still are good people in the world|1 Haha getting downvoted for that comment Says it all really|1 When only half of Americans work togetherpool any resources it is hardly working together It is one half taking advantage of the other half|1 Im not religious at all But yes|1 Yes Its in the resolution here its not long httpswwwcongressgovbill116thcongresshouseresolution897text|1 And as I said theres a difference between running away in a democracy and a dictatorship Not exactly sure how youre not understanding that|0 Thank you Im quarantining right now and on hold with doc as per all of your support and guidance If they ask me to come in Im a 35 walk away away and 35min walk back I dont know how else I would get there no car and dont want to harm anyone but dont know if Ill have the energy|1 I just got an awesome business deal with a local inn and were at a stand still I understand this is hard but everyone else is about to have a really rough year too Were all in this together|1 No one can afford to do that because even fully staffed no one has enough nurses You would not believe how many facilities cobble together the schedule day by day shift by shift hour by hour|0 Iran has elections like North Korea has elections|1 Its not about people being selfish Its about fear people are downplaying the seriousness of the problem if they think it doesnt directly affect them because otherwise its a constant source of distress I get it since Ive done this as well but Id be lying if I said I didnt have any concerns|0 Is there an issue with shortage of food|0 Russia has less than 15 cases of Covid19 last I checkedYou mean thats all theyre telling us about Come on youre not that naive|1 I hope you and your mother remain healthy Good luck to both of you and thank you for the interesting read|1 Theyre going to have to change the name to the red house after how many people they kill with their bullshit|0 Brave men and women|1 Singapore is smart being so proactive|1 I gave him the benefit of doubt but just watching a random video of his 1 citing websites that fail medifactcheck 2 calling every data a lie without any proof 3 deliberately using info that backs up his claims despite it not being confirmed|0 Came here to share this I saw it two weeks ago and have since started thinking about it in circumstances where I didnt want to touch something but this wouldnt work like opening a door knob Obviously gloves or papertowels are the answers but I want to use a fuckin lighter|0 How many days does it take the Department of Health to figure this out How hard is it to run a test Are we doing it by ponyshots fired|0 Team Taiwan FTW|1 I was supposed to get my annual performance review just about now and then Corona Virus said nope and were all now working remotely Im thankful that I have a job and can do everything online or remotely Its a crazy world right now|1 I use white vinaigar everyday since i bought my phone 4 years now and have no problem I just have a tissue that i use only for that and that i clean every week Simple and efficient |1 Very however from a business stand point it makes sense So what it really shows is this what does that person value more Life and fellow man OR |1 I went to my childs school district administration building on Monday in order to inquire about the districts planned response The little old boomer at the front desk snarkily replied but we dont have it here Okay Boomer its gonna get you first thenEventually someone did contact and fed me a line of BS about them receiving daily updates from the CDC and coordinating with the county health dept Basically other than upgrading their disinfectant type and wiping stuff down more often they arent doing shit They feel no need to start planning a way for teachers to teach their classes on line from their homes It is infuriating|0 True but it does indicate the community is not hard hit yet Or if you seen the hospital taking extra precautions when treating flu symptom then you are right|0 Yep youre making a good choice Hang in there|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rirelandonreddit rCoronavirus Google HQ in Dublin asks nearly all of its 8000 staff to work from home tomorrow due to coronavirus scarehttpswwwredditcomrIrelandonRedditcommentsfckjjtrcoronavirusgooglehqindublinasksnearlyallnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 They are not the bad onesThats what Natural Selection means Giraffes with short necks are going to DIE because they cant reach the food ITS NOT A VALUE JUDGEMENTAmerica coddles the weak and ignorant for the sake of the bottom line under the guise of Compassion and Liberty When stupidity is not fatal a species is working against itselfThe individual employees will receive care from the government Better yet the corporations will FAIL and will cease to be considered people The way its supposed to beA government ONLY exists to enrich and protect the lowliest of its Citizens from greedy Corporations That is one thing that will change fastest in America regarding privatization nationalization of industries|0 armed with his medical lightsaber he charges into the crowd in slow motionvictory or death|0 Is this a mix of confirmed and diagnosed cases or just confirmed cases If its a mix Good News If its just confirmed cases Bad News|0 Same rate for MERSCoV less closely related tooOf 148 survivors who consented to be registered and underwent assessments at 12 months T1 and 18 months T2 after the MERS outbreak 72 4865 were evaluated for chronic fatigue depressive symptoms and PTSShttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6354037This just got a whole lot scarier|0 Yes everyone I mentioned this to said one or all of the following That is all fake news Pnuemonia is much worse because millions have it every year We dont even have coronavirus here|0 Youre absolutely correct but the mayor isnt even talking about making those arrangements which is the smart thing to do Im a NYC DOE teacher in the South Bronx as is my wife and while we are able to come home and stay home at the end of each day so many of our coworkers who live outside the city have to pick up their children who interact with other children Their schools are being cancelled so my coworkers have no idea what to do with their kids and worry that they will be responsible for spreading the virus to their own children and other caregivers This is nightmarish for them I cannot visit my elderly relatives|0 You mean my message That was not my intention no|1 of course its not influenzaits pneuminia what spreads like influenza|1 I dont think this is an issue of not having the money its an issue of suppliers literally not being able to make things fast enough to keep up with demand The CEO could give back all 7 million right now and it wouldnt make the mask factories pump them out a second sooner|0 This Its over and we lost already Its like an armageddon|1 Im a massage therapist and my place of employment has no plans to shut down We were totally booked today|0 Why dont we already have unemployment compensation for everyone whose laid off I dont understand why nobody except Ohio is doing thisthe resource is already in place and can be done completely online People cant wait for the federal government to get their shit together any longer Im furious that Congress took off for the weekend btw I realize this would be only short term and states could not sustain it indefinitely but they can and should roll this out in the interim|0 The total recovered has reached 7500 the 900 is new I believe|1 Not a fact Stop living in a fantasy world This is it You will get this disease and better the least vulnerable than the most You think that suppression will work It will just come in winter The best case scenario is that herd immunity is established among those with the lowest mortality rate while the vulnerable remain isolated as much as possible for monthsIf we do this right the death toll will be minimised|1 I talked to my sister she lives near Trento North Italy She cant confirm yet she said maybe they willl get to know in the evening news I hope for the best|1 severe impending doomI didnt know this was one of the symptoms|0 Dude it goes the other way Chinese doesnt give a shit about the mass shootings in the US etc I have never heard of any movement in China where they say we are with you against gun violence The mass shootings and everyday violence alot of those are innocent people We Chinese we give you our prayers Nada why not chineses people care|0 About 20 will need medical care which is insanely high|1 Awesome|1 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 Hope this goes through for the sake of you Americans Finally some sanity|1 I feel so sorry for all of you guys Im disgusted with how this is being handled Thinking of you all from MN|0 Because the flu shot itself lowers your immune system PS I havent had the flu shot in years And I worked with young children coughing in my face I am now retired In spite of that I never get sick I washed my hands a lot Used hand sanitzers between kids I was a traveling therapist Also sanitized my equipment at the end of the day I take Liposomal Vitamin C daily I eat whole foods cooked from scractch If I do ever feel I am coming down with something I take some extra vitamin C some zinc and use some Colloidal silver But only a tsp I dont want to turn blue|1 Thank you kind stranger He will be in quarentine when he gets back for safety measures Just had the question if he would be able to get back|1 God help us if that happens|1 There is so much theyve censored that has turned out to be blatant truth|1 I lost MWC in Barcelona managed to replace it with Embedded world in Nuremberg which also got cancelled Lots of collegues of mine are now taking down their stands at the Geneva motor show|0 Not true A lady at work in VT who makes about 55K husband doesnt work has a small place in central Florida inland They ride their motorcycles back and forth to do two climate living They are far from super rich|1 Absolutely that was a magnificent effort at silencing rumors If only those inconsiderate people would have stopped dying in an effort to create social unrest Chinas efforts would have received their due praise|1 well at least theyve got a sense of humour|1 My understanding is that women poop too When did hand washing become a gender issueAlso why are you timing your male coworkers bathroom trips|1 What a waste of tests Nurses waiting to be tested once and some in quarantine takes 7 tests in 14 daysTime to pray that when you get sick the nurse taking care of you who went back to work despite unable to be tested is not contagious|1 Ive said it elsewhere It wouldnt surprise me if there are a bunch of younger people who have already had it thinking they got a coldflu did what they needed to do while toughing it out got better and went on with life without thinking they already had it|1 I hope you all are LysolIng those mattresses I thought Trump passed a lawproclamation to assist businesses during this SOE I know he did for Small Businesses But he loves big businesses|1 No 2795 today|0 Oh their leadership is compromised but folks farther down are still doing their best|1 Yes I wish people would live for today and help humanity now when it matters and is needed|1 And were one of the richest nations on this planet So fucked|0 I still think weather is a factor and that is why Washington was hit SF may be affected but I dont think it will go as far as LA which is reasonably warm ATM if proper quarantine measures are put into place|1 vs millions panic shopping at Cosco and other grocery storess|0 Saw a guy interviewed in the cruise ship say he was in the sixth week of recovery That guy has been on CNN a few times Im sure you can find him|1 My wife and I are in the same boat as your husband Nearly a pack a day for 10 years myself Last smoke was Valentines day morningMy congratulations to your husband and you|1 Yeah i agree|1 How many pizzas did you donateWhat do you think is better 0 food donations or 500 pizzas|1 Im so sorry the only silver lining is that I think its serious enough that there will be national temporary UBI and rent halts|0 Yes Its like the advice to sneeze into your elbow So your clothes are now covered with it|1 As tragic as it is theres no chance folks will he allowed into hospitals to visit relatives |0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The Guns of August is also amazing|1 We literally became just like china with this lying about the numbers|0 The logic here is if you lock yourself for 14 days You are either healthy or sick The sick people are taken to the hospital and the healthy people will go to work If everyone is playing by the rule all of us should be fine As simple as that|1 Still wouldnt get a vaccine Done injecting heavy metals into my body Ive been vaccinated but no more|0 Im sure whatever scraps of the Amazon that remain wont thank you for that|1 YES That and a president who tries to make our Country that it is really no big deal and everything will be back to normal in the next week or two He thinks we are all sheeples|1 The mortality rate is definitely higher than all known active strains of flu The mortality rate will most likely decline if asymptomatic cases are included kids without symptoms who have it people who had mild symptoms and so on But how much it will decline is anyones guessWe cant just quarantine diagnosed cases We would have to do millions of tests a day to diagnose everyone who has a cough or any symptoms since its flu season and tons of people have COVID symptoms without having itAlso the tests we have now arent always accurate and need to be repeated two or three timesThe coronavirus has killed 5833 people globally Thats within less than two months And that number is growing exponentially if it keeps going we do nothing to slow it down it will keep doubling every few daysThe flu killed maybe 10000 15000 people so far this flu season And thats after infecting way more people This thing has killed half as many in like 2 months and the deaths are going up exponentially which is why we need to slow the spread|0 Well sometimes you cannot fix stupid|1 Stay strong dude Im sorry to hear that Hopefully this will help kick a change off to fix this kind of thing|1 The argument is faulty Two wrongs dont make a right PS This is purely logical observation I am for quarantine|0 That guy was so sure it jumped from animal toHuman in November I am not sure how accurate i would consider his words|1 Yeah Fuck china amirite Herp derp|0 The past two weeks I felt rubbish some shortness of breath exhausted to the point all I was doing was working and sleeping light headed I put it down to just a run of the mill winter bug Now Ive developed a bit of a cough Im wondering if it might actually be covid and Ive inadvertently spead it to everyone I work as a cleaner in a school Im self isolating as of today but I worry the damage is already done there|0 Maybe people will finally realize how important it is to have competent leadership in government Or not|1 What was the severity distribution amongst the people who tested positive|1 I mean theyre not wrong Every one of my friends or family that gave birth were crazy the first month from lack of sleep and fucked up hormones and the complete disrupt to their normal life|0 Idgaf what youre doing jerk off for 8 weeks straight just stay away from people|0 Doing so would totally make us believers wasted by the end of the press conference |0 I told my wife I will no longer try to convince people about how serious the situation is If people are still that ignorant of what is going to happen then RIP The initial response and tone of dump and the administration has put a lot of lives at risk|0 Yeah but theres a Y tube connecting the patients right So theyre sharing aerosols through the tube|1 Dont forget about Love Island|0 Gee Thanks Bill|1 There is no long term herd immunity from coronaviruses A useful vaccine is years away Expect recurring outbreaks and quarantines To reduce chances of another major outbreak will require constant monitoring and medical checks|1 Nah most of my professors are just moving the normal one online Im from UW and during class yesterday a bunch of my professors said fuck it|0 Here in Philippines too there are churches still open for mass gatherings such as INC I hate it because we have like 7 death rate already And our healthcare system is far behind of what Italy has todayIts frustrating|0 I hear ya man and I genuinely feel for those people But what are we supposed to doFor us it makes sense to have a prioritization system It sucks but for us the higher mortality risk patients are gonna hold priority Were not willingly trying to ignore the fact that younger people have jobspriorities but unfortunately our responsibility is towards the most likely to have severe complications I dont feel particularly good typing that out but it is what it is|0 You and your students are barely at risk Educate yourself on the virus and go back to work following common sense hygiene All the best|1 170 upvotes Unless theyre going to the friends house to build ventilators this is every bit as dumb as the people going to bars|0 For some reason these people think having a vague understanding of some nonpeer reviewed publication gives them any ground to challenge a decade of training plus over a decade of experience in the field Its probably one of the most infuriating things Ive seen on this sub over the past few weeksEvery thread on climate change ever|0 As soon as its all over everyone will flock to Venice hoping to see the clear water before it goes back to normal so its gonna change back very quickly|1 the footage of paper money floating down from their high rises was haunting money is useless when you are dying|0 Honestly I dont believe you I live and work in Manhattan I just took the 1 train from 181st to 42nd and I heard 1 person cough in a packed train in the 30 minutes I was on it Im waiting for the R right now at 42nd and no one is coughing or showing signs of a flu We need to stop with the panic We are still at nominal levels for the flu season Will more people get infected Of course but we should not be spreading hearsay with the intention of causing panicMy advice to people living in NYC wash your hands stay home of sick and go about you day to day life|0 Strange math class but good on that professor|1 Well we do have some combines which would indeed allow you to plant from home nowadays Controlled remotely can automatically plant a field Combines arent used for planting Also damn we already have too much corn and soybean we need to stop subsidizing shit plants and move that Right thanks for letting me know Ill stop all my breeding and trialing for the year because youve decided we have too much corn and soybeans I mean why bother working on new varieties now Its basically like saying we have enough computers out there we can stop any RD into new types money to good vegetablesBecause grains and other staple crops arent readily interchangeable with vegetables in terms of storage machinery and shelf life|0 Jesus dude the people responsible are already morally bankrupt how much more can you take from them|0 I dont understand most of the other countries on that list have far higher rates of growth than the UKIs that what we want here|1 I wish hed just cough already|1 just found out there are a few studies on iodine gargle httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed12011518 Prevention of respiratory infections by povidoneiodine gargleThe incidence of episodes of acute exacerbation of chronic respiratory infections decreased significantly when compared with that before use of povidoneiodine gargle Episodes of infections with Pseudomonas aeruginosa Staphylococcus aureus including MRSA and H influenzae were reduced by about 50httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5986684 In Vitro Bactericidal and Virucidal Efficacy of PovidoneIodine GargleMouthwash Against Respiratory and Oral Tract Pathogens Conclusion In conclusion our study results taken together with 1 recommendations for gargling with antiseptic mouthwash for the control of oral and respiratory tract infections 2 the rapid bactericidal and virucidal efficacy of povidoneiodine including PVPI garglemouthwash against pathogens causing oral and respiratory tract infections observed in other in vitro and in vivo studies and 3 the established safety profile of PVPI from over 60 years of use provide a strong rationale for the use of PVPI oral solution for protective oropharyngeal hygiene management for individuals at high risk of exposure to oral and respiratory pathogens httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed26249761 Practical use of povidoneiodine antiseptic in the maintenance of oral health and in the prevention and treatment of common oropharyngeal infections Conclusion The link between oral and oropharyngeal health status and susceptibility to infection has long been recognised The high rates of antibiotic misuse and subsequent development of bacterial resistance eg increasing vancomycinresistant enterococci VRE and methicillinresistant Staphylococcus aureus MRSA in large parts of the world especially across Asia Pacific highlight the need for identifying alternative antimicrobials that would minimise the use of these medications This together with recent largescale outbreaks of for example avian and swine influenza virus further underline the importance of an increasing armamentarium for infection prevention and control|1 The joke is that governments are telling people they dont work and that they only protect other people if the mask wearer is sick But they are just saying that so there is enough for hospitals and I dont blame them Of course they helpthats why they wear them in hospitals|1 Escape from the Princess BrideStarring Bat Plissken|1 The sick leave thing is nice but there needs to be a government mandate enforcing sick leave allowances for all employees or some companies are going to continue to be cunts|0 I wish I had some shred of evidence to prove you wrong |0 Thats tentative most state DEs are already planning long term no more school right now In PA for example they are using the new fed money to work on a plan to get all students cromebooks that dont already have them School from home for now|0 Most people are probably thinking that its wonderful grandstanding but it will never hold up But that all changes when these things go viral and you start to force their hand Share this with everyone and lets hope we can get some sort of handle on this damn virus|1 This is absolutely disgusting if true|0 Chinese people are getting arrested for journalism or social media posts This is risky already and if theres no interest they shouldnt do it|0 The difference between China and other countries is that China let it fester for 23 weeks without doing anything Other countries have been aggressively containing since day 1 So we might just be lucky enough to have a localized situation|1 This is mentally irresponsible|0 I know no statemandated gfs for me what a shame|0 Another big part of it is hotel blocks Those hotels are going to be pressuring one way or another to either not bring sick people to their places or to not cancel the event Hotels are the major part of the income for a city when it comes to big events Its why certain events cant go to certain cities even through it would be awesome they might not have the room I spent 10 years helping organize a decent size anime con Tekkoshocon and ran it for 3|1 Can someone ELI5 exactly why the fuck we dont have tests going on en masse This is fucking ridiculous|0 Wow Please tell your friend that there are even more people who appreciate her|1 Vaccines take an insanely long time to develop even 35 years is a conservative estimate Its much more likely to be contained like SARS before we even see a vaccine close to being administered|1 Faker is his IGN in game name As far as games nicknames I think its pretty awesome actually|1 UH NO SOUTH KOREA DIDNT TEST BASED ON SYMPTOMS THEY CONTACT TRACED Seriously lady dont tank your own credibility over this|0 Try to stop reading about it for a while avoid those coronavirus subs altogether Theres a lot of fake information and they exaggerate and make everything sound so much worse than it actually is I stopped reading those subs like 3 days ago and started to feel MUCH better after a day|0 Theyre the ones we need to know are positiveNo offense but at this point this seems so naive as to be bordering on magical thinkingThe only safe assumption at this point is that the virus is everywhere Forget mild cases People without symptoms are spreading the virus as we speak|0 January 22 We have it totally under control Its one person coming in from China Its going to be just fineFebruary 2 We pretty much shut it down coming in from ChinaFebruary 24 The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA Stock Market starting to look very good to meFebruary 25 CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling CoronavirusFebruary 25 I think thats a problem thats going to go away They have studied it They know very much In fact were very close to a vaccineFebruary 26 The 15 cases in the US within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zeroFebruary 26 Were going very substantially down not upFebruary 27 One day its like a miracle it will disappearFebruary 28 Were ordering a lot of supplies Were ordering a lot of uh elements that frankly we wouldnt be ordering unless it was something like this But were ordering a lot of different elements of medicalFebruary 28 Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus you know that right Coronavirus theyre politicizing it We did one of the great jobs You say Hows President Trump doing They go Oh not good not good They have no clue They dont have any clue They cant even count their votes in Iowa They tried the impeachment hoax That was on a perfect conversation They tried anything They tried it over and over Theyd been doing it since you got in Its all turning They lost Its all turning Think of it Think of it And this is their new hoaxMarch 2 You take a solid flu vaccine you dont think that could have an impact or much of an impact on coronaMarch 2 A lot of things are happening a lot of very exciting things are happening and theyre happening very rapidlyMarch 4 If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by you know sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work but they get betterMarch 5 I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to workMarch 5 The United States has as of now only 129 cases and 11 deaths We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possibleMarch 6 I think were doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down a tremendous job at keeping it downMarch 6 Anybody right now and yesterday anybody that needs a test gets a test Theyre there And the tests are beautiful the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect The transcription was perfect Right This was not as perfect as that but pretty goodMarch 6 I like this stuff I really get it People are surprised that I understand it Every one of these doctors said How do you know so much about this Maybe I have a natural ability Maybe I should have done that instead of running for presidentMarch 6 I dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasnt our faultMarch 8 We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirusMarch 9 This blindsided the world|1 Per the WHO yes|1 Sound like a lot of projection|1 Based on listening to the latest This Week in Virology podcast it sounds as though that original paper about the L and S strains and their relative danger was based on unreliable scientific methodology so there is no good reason at present to believe it or to assume that people are becoming easily reinfected if this were a significant concern we would likely be seeing far fewer recovered cases|1 I see midwives now but they can only deliver in the hospitals I have an appointment the 25th so Im going to ask what the plan is if things get bad I know in my state right now theyre limiting people in the room to 1 no guests But if it gets bad like Italy Im wondering what the plan is|0 I got paper towels late last night at Home Depot I figured there wouldnt be many people there and I could selfcheck out There were a fair amount of people even late on a Saturday night Anyway they had plenty of paper towels Didnt need toilet paper as a I bought a case from Amazon a month ago|1 Wishing you and everyone in Italy the best|1 WTF This is what I hate about social media companies ideally enforce the rules equally or dont enforce them at all|0 not having to pay for rest of the losersThis is literally how health insurance works Youre paying for everyone else whos also signed into your plan and theyre paying for you|1 He was probably advised to avoid coughing so as to not appear sick I would imagine thinking about not coughing probably made it worse|0 When H1N1 was going around I almost definitely got it I went to Urgent Care and they told me that they werent even going to bother testing me since everyone had it The same thing happening with a disease that has this kind of a recorded mortality rate is horrifying|1 China is lying The corona virus is worse than what they are saying|0 Our body naturally fights the coronavirus Thats the main thing we need to make a successful vaccine Our body cant naturally fight HIV which is why it is so difficult to create a vaccine httpswwwhistoryofvaccinesorgcontentarticlesdevelopmenthivvaccineshttpswwwhistoryofvaccinesorgcontentarticlesdevelopmenthivvaccines|1 Imagine the coordination between countries individuals citizens and media required to pull off this hoax|0 Good news but seems they are running different testing and recovery standards to othersThe official Chinese definition of recovery was fever free for 10 days and 2 negative tests I thoughtSome of the cases were only confirmed on 10th Feb in Uk|1 Chinas collapse has only just begun says James RichardshttpsyoutubeOKLanCYhUOk|0 We used that phrase when we took an airplane somewhere shortly after 911 Or went to sporting events as soon as they started back up This is not at all the same thing These people are dumb as dirt|0 That and a lot of medical staff would be forced to stay home to take care of their children|1 Make sure you ration food and dont eat big meals as you are going to have to make everything stretch as much as possible and distance yourself from anyone|1 Carryout is great but you also have to educate the public that carry outdelivery is not how you get this virus I have heard people say oh i wont eat take out because the guy making it could cough on it and then ill get the virusi would say highly unlikely But one large segment of the public is in total panic and practically avoiding all human contact indefinitely|0 OK Here are some sources These are based on autopsy Media httpwwwxinhuanetcomenglish20200304c138842622htmhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv2OXP7aawUsResearchAutopsy httpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsfaz64ogeneralobservationautopsyreportofanewLink in that thread as wellRelevant infohttpslabbloguofmhealthorglabreporthowdoescovid19appearlungs|1 Im in NYC and everybody suspects the virus is already somewhere in the city hell the mayor even said it was inevitable Im shocked that we havent had any cases yet but its also possible theyre hiding it Im avoiding crowds and the subway as much as I can just to be safe|0 May the odds be ever in your favor|1 All travel to Europe except England Makes no sense You can travel from any country inEurope to England by train and then fly home|0 I fucking love this guy Hes kind of nailing messaging to the public and stroking trumps ego I know we are fucked as a whole with our response but if things get worse and worse trump will end up listening to fauci more|0 A friend of ours is an ER Doc at Kaiser Permanente in Portland OR Their internal guidance from an epidemiologist is that this will peak in late May or early June but they expect it to get steadily worse until then and have no estimate of how quickly it will slow thereafter This is our spring and very possibly our summer Maybe longer I think its important for people to think beyond a short term lockdown to what a new normal will look like Find some hobbies Replenish your supplies regularly ideally by ordering from places that will deliver as stock becomes available to avoid long lines Find some online courses for your children to work on during the day Essentially create a new sustainable routine If it all ends sooner youll be pleasantly surprised If not youll be ready|1 Despite all the warnings science was ignored because not enough economic damage was done|1 That would be sorta fun if the entire Guardian Council full of greybearded ayatollahs keeled overhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGuardianCouncilhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGuardianCouncilThe regime would really struggle to explain why they all displeased Allah so much|0 With schools out for 8 weeks might as well start summer vacation early if they intend to go back in june or make up fo eff lost weeks during summer|0 SwedenWhat I live here and havent heard anything about our health system being overwhelmed Weve had 1000 confirmed cases and everyone is being very proactive about social distance|1 In 2011 they came up with a very detailed and comprehensive plan for what they would do in the event of a zombie apocalypse Fun fact the Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases FY 2011 operating plan budget was 304 million under Barrack Obama and the FY 2019 operating plan budget under Donald Trump was 620 million httpsblogscdcgovpublichealthmatters201105preparedness101zombieapocalypsehttpsblogscdcgovpublichealthmatters201105preparedness101zombieapocalypse|1 Its very interesting how over the last 100 years weve really come to expect protection from things that arent foreign nations Its a good thing dont get me wrong|1 Thank you for posting this It is nice to have firsthand knowledge of things people are saying there on the ground Hang in there and keep posting Also dont apologize for it Best wishes|1 The mask isnt going to stop me he virus since it doesnt filter out anything smaller than 3 microns|1 Ummm Thats how successful viruses survive This isnt the first incredibly successful virus to exist on earth Lets not forget this isnt some incredibly severe virus 80 of people will make a full recovery and have mild flu like symptomsEdit maybe you are just impressed with nature|1 So whats the bad newsIt seems like theres a catch with everything lately|0 Its called DermatomyositishttpsenwikipediaorgwikiDermatomyositis but without visible skin problems in my caseIm also healthy otherwise but this coronavirus is really concerning|1 There is some context missing from this It certainly does not mean half the people infected regardless of age are going to the ICU If the majority of infected are younger it stands they will account for an outsized portion of cases requiring hospitalization and potentially ICUIm not trying to dismiss the seriousness of it but this sub is not good for people with anxiety Hopefully this additional context helps|0 University California Santa Cruz just told students that courses will be online until June I think the US is in for some trouble|0 But if we confirm they work then maybe its still worth using them if your lungs are failing and we dont have enough ventilators for you|0 I smoke almost daily and try 5mg edibles and they usually ruin me for 24hrs and give me the worst anxiety of my life No idea what dosage I should go for since Im in a legal state and I got these at a dispensary Pretty sure 5mg is their lowest dosage|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 As a virus researcher Im usually with the CDC But in this case I think the decision to bring them home was the right decisionThese are American citizens we have a responsibility to bring them here and give them the kind of care and supervision that cannot be provided where they are We are perfectly capable of caring for them here without also putting people here at significant riskRemember back to the Ebola outbreak That disease was much much more deadly Not a single person treated in the US died while the death rate for those treated in Africa was enormous Because of fear we kept people from being brought to the US for treatment and they died in Africa instead If we have an opportunity to keep Americans alive we should do thatEdit see below|1 Im a liberal and I agree with closing the border Trump should have banned all flights on January yet he did not That being said there is way too many antiTrump threads in this subreddit and the mods are doing jack shit about Forget coming here for info and discussion this is just an extension of rpolitics at this point An AntiTrump antiUnited States bias cesspool|0 Yes I agree the line should have been drawn there Im a Brit the prices you guys ie USians pay for prescription medicines is absolutely shocking to me Do you know how much the NHS charges me for any prescription 9 per item I went and got my prescriptions yesterday 2 inhalers preventer and reliever and 3 months supply of Omeprazole cost me 27EditIf its prescribed in a hospital rather than by my GP its free at the point of need I was born with an osophogeal defect my oesophagus wasnt connected to my stomach all the surgery as a child to correct it free My osophagoscopies to monitor it free Of course I pay for it in taxes so its not really free but I dont have to worry about life destroying medical bills out of the blue|1 Just stay calm hell go away|0 I think some people just dont want to believe it theyre in denial theyre scared and they dont want to be wrong Id much rather be the paranoid squirrel who if Im wrong doesnt have to buy tp for the next 6 months than the person whos taking advantage of low airline flights and cruises and ends up in intensive care on a respirator|0 40 or more is surely morbidly obese Morbid means deathly|1 Mathematical models predict that as well |1 They said they will stop reporting cases to minimize panic Only serious cases|0 Thanks Ma|1 I would like to think they have created an infection map are the infections clustered together or tied together HVAC for instance in any wayThat ship masquerading as a virus containment vessel is a complete disaster|0 edit hopefully the Americans are taking this more seriously they seem to be handling it better than CanadaWere not at all Symptomatic patient arrived in Wisconsin after at least two flights from China No one noticed until she showed up at the local hospitalOther airports have zero screening at allFrom an official standpoint we appear to be welcoming the disease|1 Curious what WHO says about this|1 To all the people who claim that there are a gazillion quadrillion undetected covid cases so the death rate it actually 0000000000001Exactly what I said with influenza cases being misdiagnosed smh this sucks|0 If you work in healthcare and are under HIPPA laws make sure you know you arent breaking any NDAs or HIPPA laws before you do HIPPA law violations are no joke|0 Happy cake day Some people want to watch the world burn And unfortunately it looks like those people are now world leaders|1 Thats elderly care in general for you It terrifies me|0 Arrest this idiot|0 Im not sure why some people arent getting this Do they have no parents No grandparents No older relatives or neighbours or friends they care about Maybe they just care about themselves Ever since the news of this virus spread Ive been thinking about others getting sick and not myself|0 Bioweapon defense mode funding secured|1 Im not surprised During H1N1 this happened also to make it go away|0 Write a letter and mail it to someone or loved one have a Great Snail Mail Race cross country across the world|1 Yeah it is only 5 years away from being a senior citizen|1 This is the door to your body see And these are oversized novelty germs Thats influenza thats bronchitis and this cute little cuddlebug is pancreatic cancer Heh Heres what happens when they all try to get through the door at once|0 And a total lack of understanding as to what the hell was happening|0 The catch with hot and humid areas in the US is people end up in very cold air conditioned buildings a lot of the day If people and companies stores kept their temperatures up to as high as possible before people start feeling nauseous maybe 75 to 80 rather than 55 to 70 it maybe would help Also Florida gets a ton of tourists and hasnt put on strict restrictions on that yet afaik Sure plenty of people coming from hot spot areas to vacation in Orlando and Miami|1 Oh thank god|1 How fun|1 How serious is this Was this a formality that was basically set in motion a while agoIs this a reaction to more recent hidden developmentsIt makes all the difference|0 dailymailcouk news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I truly hope St Paddys is cancelled in London for the love of god|1 I guess the terrorists win lol|1 UK Theyve already thrown in the towels and say fuck it let everyone get infected for herd immunity|0 Do you find our practically indifferent acceptance of influenza hideously immoral I would fear more for my own children if they got the flu than COVID19 which in all likelihood I wouldnt even notice anywayYet the average concern for seasonal influenza a disease that takes around half a million lives every year is somewhere between barely anything and zero We certainly dont invest many of societys precious resources into stopping it At some point it wont matter what the perceived attitude is You find it unrealistic I think reality will deal us lesson in a few short weeks It may be just as immoral to tank society chasing the dream that the toothpaste can somehow still be put back in the tube|0 the owners are the ones who pay these people in the first place and they employ a lot more people than just arena staff Did you think before you wrote this comment Do you people seriously think billionaires just shove all their money in a vault and sit on it|0 Yes Please prep Im glad we had some face masks etc before it became impossible to buy in Taiwan Just prep and if you didnt need it GREAT|1 I heard Jared kushner owns the company making the US tests which is why we rejected the WHO tests|0 Did that actually happen I find it hard to believe|0 Take it or leave it|0 WOW Thats super great I had no idea until someone on Reddit suggested it Thank you for your positive input Its all very valuable |1 THANK YOU At this point Im just going to stop posting about masks Its very hard to change an adults opinion If you want to wear one wear one If you dont want to wear one then dont wgaf|1 When did I say allAnyways you were wrong move on|0 And once people do start to take this seriously who will step in to care for the kids Grandparents sure as heck shouldnt be doing it but what alternatives will there be for people|1 The viruses hide in your cells It will only hurt the cells which would shield the virus|0 Lol|1 Yep WA here and the way people are behaving is pretty scary We finally had to leave our home for some fresh food so as not to break in to our absolute quarantine stores and holy hell|0 Just give them sick leave you rich fuck|0 Im not sure how it would get transmitted via plumbing If you have waste water getting into your fresh water coronavirus is not your biggest concernWhen you flush the toilet some of your well output becomes aerosolised and goes through the fan If you sneeze or cough in the bathroom or kitchen same Especially if the fans are onThis has been proven in a paper unfortunatley I cant link as I heard it second hand through a doctor but this virus gets everywhere Shared air pipes are not safe in big buildings We already had the cruise ships shared ventilation and a Hong Kong building evacuated due to thatWhat you say about waste water is true and increases the risk but lack of waste water doesnt mean no riskFresh water is typically treated tooIts treated with chlorine bleach in extremely low doses so as to be safe for drinking Unfortunately also lower doses than necessary to kill a significant contamination with the virus before you drink it A typical coronavirus can last 10 days in drinking water at room temperature and 100 days if the water is coldContamination is still not likely Id say but possible Ive started boiling my drinking water 1 minute at 70 degrees or boiling it for a few seconds is enough|0 Yep|1 I read a paper that I dont have a link to atm but it talked about a experimental treatment in China which included 1g doses of Chloroquineor was it Hydroxychloroquine for 7 days high doses of Vitamin C and Oxygen therapy But this is going from my memory and Ive probably missed some details I know much more data is going to be required with experimental therapy but I keep wondering why we dont hear of more countries experimenting with this combo or something similar Or are they just waiting for China to get the data first since they already have a jump on the data I understand a vaccine can be far away but if theyre any therapies that increase chances of recovery without a vaccine then I personally believe it should be all hands on deck in researching that possibilityIve also seen different reports on the effects of ACE inhibitors actually making things worse for the infected They mentioned ARBs could possibly do the same which they all based on data from SARS Then I saw another paper that said ARBs might actually help against the virus noting that ARBs didnt produce a cough as does sometimes with ACE inhibitors but they werent just basing it on that alone It said they needed to do more research Why arent we also hearing about these type of things as well I understand data is key to everything but the more experiments would equal more data quicker|0 Yes does not negate a naturally infected lab worker although Im more inclined to point to a batwildlife seller with less controlled handling perhaps poor hygiene practices and a history of repeated exposure|1 Mhmh yes yes I think this time seems more like we should just let the average height of 7ft be treated Of course if you walk in with over flowing pockets Im sure there will be the Deluxe packages|1 If it hasnt made you sick and it doesnt get contaminated then will try longer than 2 weeks|1 He gave her AIDS from all those little boys he has been messing withIt manifests as MUKULTRA malfunctioning but it is really AIDS and liberalism that has this son of Fidel Castro FUBAR|0 The delay will only make it worse Unbelievable how hard this is to understand for those in charge|0 Uh oh try to wear masks people if you cant find any try to DIY your own mask Any protection is better than none right now|1 China is making the move for eliminating the virus while everyone else is playing the herd immunity card by slowly propogating the virus through the population allowing hospitals time to buffer bed availabilityIn theory younger people are great hosts for herd immunity 70 of the population uniformly infected since they are most likely to survive the illness For this reason it would make sense for the people in charge to intentionally allow cross infection of younger people to save older people through HI and help the virus die outThis does not mean I agree with this actionits not even safe to say that one develops immunity after healing So this is just madness|0 What a piece of shit Exploiting faith AND fear for monetary gain Fuckers|0 Why would you say this to someone We are all entitled to our own opinions but this one being so negative you should keep it to yourself If you dont have anything decent to say say nothing That being said this virus could kill us all including yourself so everyone be safe wash your hands and ignore insurance like above|0 Fuck Medicare for allYou chose catastrophic coverageGet something better if you want an insurance plan that covers minor hiccups too Or instead of paying more bank extra every month into a savings account because obviously youre going to have non catastrophic expenses at somepointWhy do you want others to pay for your financial irresponsibility Medicare for all is literally make my neighbor pay my bills Greedy entitled asshole position|0 Do not hand out paperEmail|0 Theyre not turning into zombies Theyll dip into recession for a couple months as production drop by a few percent and then it will rise back upGives the rest of the world a real opportunity to think about diversification of supply chains really|0 Whats sad is they literally copied what happened in World War ZThe book was not suppose to be a training manual|0 uh oh that does not seem fun it was in WA USA where I live but the guy was quarintined fast|0 So stop them already I have family not wanting to waste money and flying tomorrow theyre afraid but not listening and going Put a ban on already The economy is going down regardless shut it all down before it gets bad|0 Definitely not overreacting as a Type 1 Diabetic myself I find it kind of concerning the other parent is oking this We are at very high risk and they should be even more cautious than others|0 Of course no one is saying warm weather is going to eliminate it it may just very slightly reduce the pressure of it by reducing other cold weather related illnesses that use up the same resources as corona treatment|0 My daughters school UK emailed yesterday to say they have planned how the kids will be sent work home via emailschool system and the older years will do video lessons I think they are planning to close down pretty soon|1 How though Lower the wage|0 Also a lot of shit falls apart in like a week|0 I love them too and Im so happy they are doing this I was hoping Flogging Molly would follow suit since I was supposed to go to their show on the 17th But good on DKM for trying to bring us something familiar and comforting right now 3|1 Its not JUST the mortality rate that is important though that is scary in and of itself 05 to 4 estimates even the very lowest is worse than the flu This is where OPs family has it SOOOO wrongIts about SPREAD The spread of the flu is contained because of vaccines natural immunity herd immunity basically So consider 19 million estimated will get the flu in the US this season At 1 mortality rate that will be 19000 dead though currently the influenza strain is not that deadly 10000 estimated dead this seasonNow consider COVID19 Without containment it could spread to 70 of the population because there is no natural immunity or vaccines So lets be conservative and say 50 165million Americans infected At the currently LOWEST mortality rate of COVID19 of 05 based on estimated undetected case numbersThat is 825000 dead and at LEAST 8 million hospitalized Thats at least 40 times greater number of deaths than this flu seasonAlso importantly the rate of doubling of COVID19 is about 67 days so it could hit half the population within three months if not contained So 40 times more death than the flu in half the time Not something to sneeze at pun intendedAND that is eight TIMES the number hospitalized than hospital beds in the entire country about 925000 which on average are already occupied around 65THAT is why we as in scientists government etc worryPS you could even lower the infected to 20 of the population and the mortality rate to the flus unlikely rosy picture without containment measures and the dead will be around 70000 dead 47x flu mortality in half the time and over 3 million hospitalized 3x the number of hospital beds So even the pollyannaish rosy scenario is really bad SO WASH your freaking hands and distance yourself|0 I am afraid the numbers in Iran are far worse but the government is not reporting them|0 Heroes|1 According to some threads on rindia the government is reporting that theyve screened 70000 people but those screenings only include a temperature check So many asymptomatic people are likely flying under the radar right now Expect that number to climb sharply as soon as proper tests get massdeployed|1 Theyre giving him a platform and agreeing with him|1 The CDC is treating this like ehhhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovpreparepreventionhtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovpreparepreventionhtml|1 3My hairdresser and her friend were set to go to Madrid this month and will have to cancel but Ive been been paying particular attention to Spain because of that Stay safe |1 People might have to behave Cant be bothered to ask or try|1 This is so trueThe denial and so many people not wanting to believe the victims calling for help is so suspiciousIts certainly not a stretch to say that the media is being controlled or influenced|1 The government should tax the owners and be able to provide basic health services UBI in times like this They just gave wallstreet 15 trillion and nobody questions that that money should have gone to people who are out of work to help with rent and groceries|1 People have been stealing masks from childrens hospitals If you go over to the nursing subreddit theres a thread where everyone chimes in about having to keep masks hand sanitizer room wipes etc under lock and key so now instead of just sanitizing their hands on the way out of the room or getting a mask from a drawer they have to go down to the nurses station between patients or get a manager to unlock a cabinetAnd the biggest risk of this whole disease is overwhelming healthcare workers Its insane|0 Incumbency always has the advantage Especially in lobbying see oil and gas|1 In Singapore and a few other Asian countries you get the death penalty for trafficking drugs even in small quantities Guess which countries are also containing the coronavirus the best at this time Coincidence I think not|0 Koreans were wearing masks and hand sanitizer was available in all public places really early end JanuaryThey begun spreading warning information washing hands masks etc In all apartment building and subway stationsMost important they carefully tracked each infected person made all data public and keep testing furiously everybodySource I live in China went to Korea on January 23th and stayed there for few weeks before being repatriated in Europe by my company If I could I would have stay in Korea I felt so safe there|1 Suny delhi is full steam ahead Other local campuses are welcoming students back from spring break There is no decrease unless the student chooses to bug out Im glad buffalo is doing the right thing Other campuses arent Non essential personal should be able to telecommute Everything should be moved online Only students with no where to go should stay The only person who can close the campus is the governor as you know so when he said they were closed people think he meant it Be its been anything but at many SUNY schools|1 It makes you think I got very ill at the end of January with a high fever cough and general aches and pains I was out of it for about a week the cough lasted at least 2 weeks moreI got ill the second week of February with a mild fever and a dry cough There was no runny nose or anything like that Really the worst part of it was the fatigue and the mild chest pain that I began to experience about 5 days in It wasnt from coughing and it wasnt bad so I just I figured I slept wrong or something and it was actually my backRegardless I never thought twice about it until yesterday when I found out that Im apparently in one of the affected areas of the US In fact theres a patient with coronavirus roughly 30 minutes from my houseSo it does make you think|0 Nah I dont know where you get that from But just noEdit I mean they will get lethal injection if sentenced to death hanging is not used anymore In reality though they will most likely serve life in prison|0 Apparently that is actually how it works I guess the ship has a system to be able to do that for passengers not sure about crew I guess At least thats how I understood what I heard unfortunately though I dont think Id be able to find it again|0 but the source says the opposite of what you suggestedx200BWe are not now predicting that the nCoV2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people Although our tabletop exercise included a mock novel coronavirus the inputs we used for modeling the potential impact of that fictional virus are not similar to nCoV2019|0 nawMeghan Markle will take care of HRH when she moves in with her and Harrytrust me on this one s|1 Yet in belgium a teenager has been tested positive and they decided to keep the school openThats 15km aways got to stop with this crazyness Im out of here they are absolutely insane|0 Millions are untested Thats the point No test no confirm no virus to confirm Even though they have it You wont find data Of course this is critical information thats why everyone is pissed off at the 3rd world response the US has had|0 Why the fuck do you think we just killed the world economy and risked a total collapse just from that To stop a cold The Chinese would have sacrificed 3000 people in the street Mayan temple style if they thought they could have kept their economy intact This thing isnt going away and it isnt a small thing Adjust now in two weeks you may not be able to handle it and the mental shock could get you killed For your own sake adapt now|0 The fact was not fun at all|0 The best time was a few days ago The second best time is now|1 rEssexFor mobile and nonRES users More infohttpsnpredditcomrbotwatchcomments6xrrvhclickablelinkbotinfo 1 to Remove Ignore SubhttpsnpredditcomrClickableLinkBotcommentse0e9fgignorelist|0 seriously|0 Im ready to do my part Trust me I wash my hands practice cough etiquette have drastically reduced social interactions But I have a 3 year old and at preschool she cant do these things I have a lot of friends who dont care The idea that we are going to get R 1 with cough etiquette and minor social distancing not shaking hands seems not to be born out by data from Italy and South Korea where they have stronger interventions in place and its not denting transmission It seems like yet more happy talk that thinks we can bend this virus to our will of what we wish would solve the problem rather than what it actually takes to solve the problem I agree that the hospitals will only collapse if we let them but it seems like what it takes to avoid that is far far more aggressive than what anyone in the west is contemplating It also seems far better to get your arms around this thing first then ease off on the brake like China did than to be overly sanguine about the implications then need to tighten drastically during a spiraling crisis|1 Tldr fun fact at the bottom of the article NY sent out the national guard to help in a few locations|1 In Italy one bank Intesa suspended all payments of mortgages and loans afaik|0 There wont be enough even if none of them get sick Thats the problem now|0 Viruses dont inflict instant death like some video game status effect Takes time for the infected persons health to deteriorate|1 This is more likely a resultant externality of other factorsthe masks are designed to keep you from exhaling on an open wound They arent meant for filtering Its an airborne disease folks A little bit of paper cloth isnt going to help Leave the masks for the surgeons|0 Does it really get that hot in Florida Damn|0 Yes we should be all wearing masks If there are concerns about insufficient masks for medical professionals then the appropriate thing to do is to manufacture more masks Countries like China Japan German all instructed their factories to start making masks to meet the demand Why are we not doing the same I dont care whether 3M makes a profit over masks or not so long as all Americans have masks at an affordable price|1 It is Lets hope its not the case|1 What is the actual merit of shutting down the vast parts of the country that have no confirmed cases Seriously what is the end game hereIf youre going to shut down for two weeks now is way too early to play that card Right now if you shut down for two weeks you may as well shut down for 2 months Maybe longer unless a miracle vaccine comes outHow long can the strategy be containment with sight towards eradication The world blew past that possibility in January maybe December while nobody was even looking and China was jailing doctorsEDIT You can downvote if you want but you better have a plan for when your envisioned two week shutdown ends Shut the country down for two weeks then another two weeks then another two weeks then another two weeks is not a workable plan Its a knee jerk|1 As we saw with someone from China a few weeks ago and someone from Italy iirc today people are flying into Canada SICK to get our healthcare This is not ok We shouldnt rewarded their selfishness The next time this happens you should send them right back on a private secure plane and then bill them for it|0 Yeah thats what Campbell has been sati g dont reduce the fever unless it hits a dangerous level or youre lowering your immune system It works better at higher temps|1 Godspeed friend Stay well|1 Looks like a direct challenge to our supreme leader president Xi|1 There are Bernie BrosCommunists surfing these forums waiting to doxx you for prepping I would suggest that the replies be nonspecific They are kind of upset that their cardiac patient cant beat a dementia patient|0 South FL just closed public beaches and made all nonessential businesses close at 10 PM so I hope her vacation was completely ruined anyway We dont want her here either Everyone stay home and stop infecting the community in your vacation spot|0 Thats billions of base pairs difference this virus has a genome in the tens of thousands Viruses are admittedly all coding sequences unlike human DNA but those sequences could be for the spike protein or other things unrelated to the ability to be neruoinvasive|1 These are trying times Mrs It one can be forgiven for forgetting ones manners momentarily|1 If you put this prison scene in a movie it would be too much Life is truly stranger than fiction in 2020|0 lol bullshit China did their best to cover it up Only when it was too big to keep a lid on did they admit to anything|1 We are at 89 since today But Italians are still crossing the border by foot even if its closed so the number is probably way higher|1 The united states government stockpiled billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition 500000 plastic coffins and millions of body bags but didnt stockpile masks vitamin C supplements or portable testing infrastructure What does that say about our government|0 No offense taken She does still work Not because she needs to but because shes a workaholic|0 The fuckwits that you speak of fully expect a peak and for the NHS to be under strain and sadly for early deathsTheir entire rationale is to minimise the impact They know that they arent Gods who can halt the virus and that trying to might actually be worseMy instinct as someone with a 1in15 chance of dying ifwhen I catch it is that the entire country should bunker down But what might be good for me in the short term probably isnt good for the country at largeThe strategy to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed might not work But at least they are trying to avoid it rather than pushing the crisis to later in the year when COVID patients are competing for ventilators with seasonal flu patients which is what they clearly think strict closures now would achieveThere are no good strategies here I dont envy anyone making these decisions and I think its unkind to doubt their intentions|0 Can we elevate this comment to the top cause your gonna need to scroll down a good bit to see this explanation|1 Who brought this piece of shit back Fuck him|0 This has distracted me from my schooling since Jan Its so annoying I want to just unplug and focus on school|0 If only you all had this same ideology about influenza and got your damn flu shots and didnt show up to work sickThe flu is much more dangerous Especially to elderly people This chinese bullshit is hyperbole so the news media can get ratings and you sheep can forget that the chinese government has been suiciding protestors for the past 6 months straight Nice job buying into it sheepNow get your damn flu shots and stop going to work sick and fuckin getting me sick|0 they arent wearing enough protection to deter the virus I believe This might actually help the virus spread|1 Yeah This I am single and 62 and live alone But I bought enough extra food for my three adult kids and stocked up on cases of baby food and diapers for my granddaughter along with pedialyte and gatorade since Jan Now I can deliver food to them or they can come and get it off my porch when I leave it out for them if they get in a pinch Im not going to be around them anymore for awhile because of my age and diabetes Its too risky|0 Im not a Biden fan I actually voted for Bernie but anyone who says they know who will win in November like this guy is lyingJust sayin|1 Clinics in Seattle were instructed to stop testing|0 They arent in the risk group until they act like morons out partying|1 Had no clue how to do it Thank you|1 CCPs attempt at creating a cult persona Same they did with mao|1 Older wealthier and welltraveled|1 Yikes if this was America the prisoners would sue lol|0 Ive metinteracted with plenty of nonscared ignorant people in the UK whod act exactly like this Its the same as men in white vans screaming at strangers|0 Hopefully deported|1 How does that happen with a 2 death rate|0 To be fair in almost every thread even ones with relatively predictable notescalation news the top comment is something like oh fuck or jesus christ or this is bad which contribute nothing and are extremely annoying|0 Even if you have allergies and need to apply eye drops use nasal spray or blow your nose Or just scratch your itchy face because theres more pollen in the air than air f|0 Because we are so gotdamn litigious we can also sue the IP owner because they didnt license the patent out to others to make it quicker Can we also blame the personpeople that got this person sick in the first place If it wasnt for them they wouldnt have needed the valveI understand what you are saying and this kind of makes me sad to think this is what we have come to|0 The idea that a mask only prevents the virus from leaving but not entering is ludicrous But lets say that its true This virus has a long incubation period and people can transmit it asymptomatically So wouldnt we all be better off wearing masks like the Chinese do Shortages and proper usage is a different matter so to me thats not a good excuse|1 I am so relieved to be prepared right now The store shelves are empty and I am not worried in the slightest about how I will keep my kids fed We tried to warn our high risk relatives who believed the virus was fake news One of them got a little antsy after we warned them a few times and they decided to stock up while saying it was probably silly and they would just not have to go shopping for a few weeks Suddenly their local shops are empty and they are so glad to have supplies at home|1 Finally I can pursue my dream job of seal clubbing|1 Hop into the uber and you just got assaulted by either the driver who could be sick or one of the many passengers call it assault with a deadly pathogen|0 So I dont know how bad the Panic buying is in your area but my husband and I are also expecting and weve already noticed the baby supplies such as Pedialyte distilled water and such already being picked over Just letting you know you may want to keep an eye on it or go ahead and start buying a little bit here and there to get a stock built up Obviously you dont want to Panic by the baby products in screw a bunch of babies out of what they need but I wonder with the distelled water and Pedialyte if its just people trying to stock up their distilled water and an electrolyte source|0 But the Netherlands have been handling this terrible too so far|0 They capped that at 4k a month though in NYC there are plenty of people whose rent alone is more than that|0 This epidemic is really shining a bright light on the selfish ignorance of many people isnt it|0 As Italian Im ashamed|0 Its like HIV or mono It never leaves|1 It depends on R0The formula to stop a disease isVaccinated population needed in 1 1R0100|0 Thank you We have friends who will not cancel their wedding next weekend and are guilt tripping those who say they cant make it That they would want friends and family to get on planes and gather together in a large group is so gross to me Cancel it|1 all by the time anomalies started to appear in Wuhan that told doctors that these were not just severe flu cases My opinion of the cpc has actually improved somewhat in light of all the compelling new evidences showing this virus to be much more stealthy than first believedIts highly contagious nature combined with The fact that 20 of infected show no symptoms at all and 80 only mild symptoms or less turn them into an army of carriers who surreptitiously pass the virus around among the general population It is like the virus is playing a game of eeny meeny miny moe passing from one person to another to another without any of them ever noticing anything wrong until it finally reaches a high risk target and then unleashes its fury Of course none of this excuses the Chinese government crackdown on whistleblowers going ahead with the massive cny banquet even though low key the officials already knew an outbreak however mild it might be was going on in Wuhan Not to mention their failure to follow through on the ban of the wildlife trade in the aftermath of sars in the first place|0 Wont the filters get full and blocked after use Wont you just be drawing in air from the sides when the filters are blocked|0 For sure If you can fly patients out to another countrys healthcare system they arent your numbers anymore But in order to do that all of these hundreds thousands of cases on the cruise ship will need to pass through Japan and they are currently in JapanQuarantines as we have seen dont really work as there have been a constant stream of potential carriers out of quarantined areas|1 Translation Health announces the registration of two new cases infected with the emerging coronavirus COVID19 ABU DHABI February 21 WAM The Ministry of Health and Community Protection announced the diagnosis of two new cases of coronavirus known as COVID19 which are cases of contact with the case that was recently announced to the Chinese citizen and confirmed in this regard that it is examining All contacts with the detected cases to ensure that the disease does not pass and spread and to ensure the safety of the communityAnd the two new cases belong to two persons one of them is Filipino nationality 34 years old and the other is from Bangladesh who is 39 years old and their health condition is stable Thus the total number of cases discovered in the state is 11 cases 3 of which have been cured previously announcedAnd the Ministry of Health and Community Protection affirmed in this regard that it takes all necessary measures including investigation and examination of contacts and their followup within the framework of its precautionary procedures in cooperation with health authorities in the country and strengthening the disease surveillance mechanism from any pandemic health efficiently and sustainably to enhance confidence in preventive measures in coordination with all sides Concerned with various sectors with a view to harnessing all national capacities and capabilitiesThe Ministry of Health and Community Protection advised the public to follow preventive health measures and measures and review the educational flyers available on its website and the official websites of the health authorities in the countryAnd she recommended community members to adopt healthy behavior that helps protect individuals from infection with infectious diseases such as caring for hand hygiene and washing them well with soap and water and covering the nose and mouth when coughing or sneezing to prevent the spread of germs and viruses stressing that they in cooperation with partners follow an epidemiological monitoring mechanism according to the highest international practices To ensure sustainable efficiency in epidemiological surveillance and appropriate response to health emergencies in accordance with WHO standards Ml Wam Asim AlKhouly|1 Ack ok first things first is your pup ok I was going to say get some hydrogen peroxide down him ASAP but your window for that may have closed This article has helped me before for other issues but emergency vet had us give peroxide in similar situationshttpswwwdrbaskocomportfolioitemstopnaturalhomeremediesdigestiveemergenciespetshttpswwwdrbaskocomportfolioitemstopnaturalhomeremediesdigestiveemergenciespets Of course he may be ok I had a dog who got into a chocolate cake and was totally fine even kept down the peroxide Fingers crossed for puppah|1 Do you have a citation for that And is pneumonia counted in that statistic Im quite curious since Ive heard a lot of anecdotal reports from various places in the west that such illnesses are on the rise but I am always much more interested in data than anecdata |1 Who wouldve thought that wearing a mask can stop the spread of disease|0 Yeah since noncapitalist countries like China are doing great right now|1 I know rightMeanwhile in the US were fighting over who isnt sick and who is so we can divvy up our sick days cause thats what our CEO told us to do|1 One thing is that if the kid touched his eyes mouth didnt wash his hands before eating or if the basketball player sneezed he could get itIts a super easy to spread virus for sure|1 Wow thats ominous|1 It seems like you are all stating a worse case scenario that will impact everywhere at once Eg if it spreads to 60 of the American population its going to hit all 60 at once Is this the case or would we see outbreaks in certain areas at certain times like we are seeing in China and like we see with seasonal influenza|1 not going to ask about the validity of the trials or the actual efficacy I would not understand the answer so Ill believe you on thisand yes testing is important but testing everyone is also not the solution I think but I am not a doctor or anything sonow can you answer more questionswith which test produced where by whom and available whenwho is going to do the mass testing and wheredo we gather sick and not sick people in hospital to do this there doesnt sound greatdo we send people around to everyones house doesnt that put health professionals at the highest risk when we potentially would need them to you know not get sick so they can treat peopleeven if they are well protected how many health professionals do you need to do this would they not be more useful elsewherewith so many tests how long does it take to get answers isnt that a compounding risk also how many time do one need to be tested|0 Where the heck is this guy getting his numbers Why is he saying that the mortality rate is probably closer to 1 when all of the numbers say otherwise While its great that hes acknowledging that its worse than the flu hes still down playing the severity of it|1 Everyone in my group of friendsflat is regretting making fun of me in January when I said this is something to be worried about they are all trying to buy hand sanitizer and other things that Ive been stocked up on since the beginning|1 The rich and powerful seem to be getting tested without any problems even if they feel fineHow many of us do not feel fine and have CV and do not know yet No chance of us being tested but huge chance of passing it on We need these kits BAD Not just for the rich|1 Yeah but the thing that gets me is they said the kid started feeling bad Monday didnt quite have a fever but was first symptomatic on Monday and felt well enough to return to school today Thats just about 3 days with a fever a chills I was sick longer than that with the flu AND I had been taking Tama flu along with it I dont understand how it has caused so much chaos|0 Why is it removed Result of Reddit taken over by Chinese company It is surely part of the plan of the chinese propaganda We are seeing all these a lot in Hong Kong The suppression of undesired voices and covering of up their flaws Please the people of the democratic states rise up against such a ruthless regime and threat to the globe|0 Its amazing how the origin of the disease keeps changing Its almost unbelievable|1 Youre right Im not saying they shouldnt get treatment or tested but I think its silly that people are out there getting arrested over wanting to be tested and then we get headlines that NBA teams are getting emergency short notice testing|0 But people being unable to work because of the disease would cause an economic problem even more so than a travel ban|0 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 Lets wait til they get there And hope they come back|1 UK is just going to let them die No fucks given Dont cause panic or damage the economy die quietly peasants|0 and a huge line packed of people just outside|1 I appreciate that you mentioned an insightful info about the video because I saw some people sharing it and say those were the deaths in only 5 min Some people wants fear and panic and I dont really understand why|0 This person is a fucking moron I sincerely hope she doesnt read this back in a years time whilemourning any of the loved ones she loses|1 I wish He cant be VP correct Because if POTUS died he couldnt take over|0 Pretty colors|1 Doubt its in the millions yet Lets not lurch to the extreme If it was in the millions the death rate would have skyrocketed even this early But it could easily be in the hundreds if not thousands by now and the asymptomatic latency period Unfortunately due to the greedy incompetence of our governments it will keep growing and be immensely harder to contain if not impossible|0 Im now completely convinced that most people here in FL are more willfully ignorant than the rest of the country|1 httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001316queryfeaturedcoronavirus Look at the graph under results which shows that the earliest cases were not linked to the market The text there also refers to this fact I think people should focus their efforts onto personal plans and community plans to mitigate harm not speculate about nuclear war as well as sickness disruption|0 Well the population will need increasing|1 This is a great idea but in the meantime people might be interested in checking out rcoronavirusUS rcoronavirusUK or rcoronavirusdownunder|1 I can answer I also have lung damage from respiratory infections I have notably impaired gas exchange on pulmonary function tests and a decreased V02 max I do get easily winded feel like I cant take good quality deep breaths feeling like not getting enough air a mild annoying cough my lungs tire easily when overworked like with a cold Cycling and jogging legitimately help a ton though it really sucks when you first start and feels like youre dying|1 The death rate was higher too It was approx 3200 now its 2835 Weird Are they updating the site or something|0 My boss had the flu and I think he gave it to me Which actually annoys me more about this whole thing Then I either caught something else or relapsed I have to spend a lot of time at their desks looking at the same screen to discuss things that come up So its pretty easy to spread a cold|1 Jesus is Lord He will bring you peace Repent He is coming soon|1 They need to send him an angry beehive|0 a few more days demand goes up and that roll will cause someones death|0 Not to worried about classified One of those 100 Senators needs their 5 mins of fame It will be leaked|1 Yep Its this jobsworth mentality we have in the UK isnt it|1 Yeah It generally will be more severe for people with lung blood or immune conditions Same people who get their ass kicked by the flu will get their ass kicked by this one as well|0 You do know there are many Italian businesses and Italian high end fashion brands in china right yes i know I just thougth what has been confirmed that it was mainly chinese citizens returning to italia who started the spread But im not blaming people it is not their personal fault mostly Doesnt change the fact that it started with them|1 Yeah we also had some epic fuckups too to be honest|1 If I see some crazy ladies pole dancin in the streets and partying on the news Ill be sure to send you a copy Today has been a big day in Florida Things are getting more serious in just the last 4 hours Hopefully your people will come home safe sound Sending you good vibes |1 Everyone is extremely offended by this I guess we need to be more inclusive and say stay the fuck home if you can but if you cant thats okay but just try during the times that youre not at work if thats okayI think that URL is available|0 The O in OEM is original for future reference |1 Smartest choice tbh some dont bother with main preconditions even if it is the epicenter But there must be wechats to give some tea Stay full on food that is canned and any unexpiring like grains for at about 2 weeks Government provided stores are stocked as seen in this vlog httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvluztqxUBvZohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvluztqxUBvZo so if you recognize it given certain measures like eyes swimming googles needed too masks no face touching and just simple keep distance from other people or their spits throughout hotburning water cleansing later too Look for that video and all be fine just keep your family in check and assure them all be ok soon |1 The original manufacturer can go fuck themselves|0 That was fascinating to read about Hopefully we can beat this without a hard reset|1 I was using the towel yesterday in the loo and thought about paper towels I dont have any wouldnt know where to get them except those big office suppliers like Lyreco or Viking I do the soap and water bit at least|1 I guess she only got tested because no one showed up at testing site Probably wouldnt happen in a big city|0 I did a google and yes you are correct Nevertheless N100 isnt exactly 100 filter but only 997 technically it should be called N997|1 Thats a huge number of asymptomatic Did you account mild symptoms into this 50 or no symptoms at all|1 Canuck here At what point do you think in this unfolding disaster do his flock turn on him|0 I hope the states are better prepared but Id be really surprised if ANY of them are|1 True The Hang Seng Index dropped nearly 20 during SARS which was milder and spread slower 8500 infected TOTAL Wuhan is already 7k today wtf|0 Were you being sarcastic the hell is with the downvotes spam LOL Jesus Christ this sub is fool of doomers hoping for nature to end lives halfway across the globe What the actual fuck mate|0 Easy use a reusable nanofiber maskinsert that protects you from the reusable nanofiber masks|1 Yep a true reflection of how censorship works in china|1 illegal huntingWhats that|0 34 folks in the office are sick after 225 weeks since hes back|0 Wait for peer reviewed research before getting too upset about this|0 The SARS vaccines showed immune sensitization Wouldnt hold out hope for a vaccineDengue vaccine candidates also created immune sensitization which is why 50years later there are no dengue vaccines|1 Theres an excellent daily Corona podcast done by another doctor from that hospital httpswwwndrdenachrichteninfopodcast4684html|1 US has 42 obesity rate thats 2x the OECD median and almost 3x of the world average Whats a bias called thats based on facts|0 Im in SC and I have an elective surgery next Monday the 23rd The hospital id go to is in GA tho Im just waiting on the call to hear its been pushed back I understand of course but its still frustrating because this surgery will easy daily pain But its not life threatening and theres a pandemic going on so I get it|0 Would love to know a reasonable worst scenario looks like Avoid dramatic apocalypse stuff and just give me realworld actionable worstcase I need to prepare for Like is worst case two months off from work and possible infection or is worst case people not showing up for their jobs at the water treatment plant|0 So this may be like RSV|1 keep treating the symptoms all of you Thats all you can do Getting a diagnosis isnt going to do anything for you its not going to change your actions All it can do is keep you from spreading it to others At this point that is NOT ON YOU You are doing the right thing you cant control other peopleKeep a close watch for pneumonia symptoms especially trouble breathing while at rest But if everything is in control you are on top of it and you might be over all of this in a week|0 Are there any recent updates on the outbreak in Washington I also hate following the other groups since it does seem to always lead to were all screwed Which is really not helpful|0 One Piece alone should carry trough a decade|0 What is the delay from active infection to deathDeaths will be delayed by 2 weeks compared to active infections that are reported when tested I thinkAlso not sure its still relevant but some deaths are being misreported so not counted as either infection or death from covid19|0 Seems my mandatory Swedish wasnt wasted I was able to understand pretty much the entire article|1 I think those figures are WAY off When the NHS cant cope the fatality rate will sore httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS147330992030195Xfulltext|1 Approved You have a new account|1 Im pretty happy in my police state with its low crime great schools low taxes well maintained infrastructure and competent handling of epidemics How about you|1 Mom of 3 teenagers here We can fill up the cart on a normal Costco trip Super helpful for us to be able to buy in bulk because we really do use it up and they are some really quality products|1 WE APPRECIATE YOU|1 its even worse for jobs like retail restaurants etc the gathering of people is literally part of our job as well as socializing with them giving them food helping them out or whatever of course thats assuming people follow the recommendation which they absolutely wont|1 Cola wars|0 Absolutely China is the new world leader Also a brutal regime They get things done because they arent a democracy|0 Yeah tell an Irish American that cant find Bulmers in Arizona that its old news if thats the case then ship some over Ill Venmo you|0 And what about quarantining those people who came with lastminute flights from China some of them selfisolated themselves at home because they have a brain but many monkeys are in the wild Honestly I had more faith in the USA now Im starting to think that my east european country is better at dealing with this than Tumps CCP|1 Theres a lot about this quote I dont like I dont want undermine the seriousness of COVID or how easily it can spread Im not a doctor or a scientist but this seems way too ridiculous How the heck could they possibly know that 19 people were infected within 15 seconds Thats way too specific On top of that how can they prove they got it from this person over someone else Was this person pacing around the room coughing and sneezing everywhere Were they even SHOWING any signs of it Because obviously someone who has symptons is going to be more easily contagious over someone who is showing no signs Its not like corona is radiating from your body and just walking past someone with it will infect you Unless someone has information proving otherwise There is so much about this quote that doesnt make sense to me|0 Death by SnuSnu|0 In AR as well Im totally blown away that our testing capacity is still 20 a day and that they dont think testing is necessary even if youve been in contact with a direct positive unless you are showing symptoms Otherwise just self quarantine face palm I get that they have to say that because they can only test 20 a day They are trying to get an instrument so UAMS can test in LR which would increase testing to 160 a day Thats still a low goal imo|1 I wish my job would do that for me|1 Almost like Bloomberg giving every American 1 million out of his 500 million campaign s|1 Is this sarcasm|0 Everything should move online not halt There will be more job opportunities opening to facilitate that switch and provide for everyones needs while people are doing StayTheFuckHomehttpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 Since we live in the evil timeline maybe hes one of those superspreaders who dont show symptoms at all|0 I was sitting in my room alone every day for a year so this is nothing different People should learn how to socialize online Theres great communities where you can talk with people meet new people play games with people discuss common interests whateverBut it is true some people just dont find that compelling or satisfying As someone who is quite awkward in person and not a fan of social spaces talking to people online all day is pretty great for me|1 Bro relax kid will be okay American parents smh|1 Offer to drive him to work everyday Transit is the biggest risk for him at this point|0 CDC has obviously been politicized and is led by a Trump sycophant and evangelical That press conference was absurd Even Trump seemed embarassed by the ridiculous praise heaped on him by the CDC directorTHe idea is to keep the tests and the number low so that Trump can be reelected So they wont even allow testing of dead people to confirm cause of death It all simply be viral pneumonia or something like that Flu That bad flu season theyve been talking aboutThe states are on their own now THey shouldnt be counting on the CDC or the federal government|0 2pack of hand sanitizer going for 120 I hate people so fucking much|0 Ive been on the phone for the last few days with our school principle superintendent and nurse asking what the plan is for kids that may be higher risk that have asthma or heart issues etc and no one can give me a definitive answer I kept my asthmatic teenager at home today Supposedly only 2 cases near us but I think its all over|0 Its a terrible name that sounds convoluted and will cause needless confusion Yes of course its an acronym and so is MERS another similar virus Thats a far better name Ive suggested WURS Wuhan Respitory Syndrome for weeks but WHO wont return my calls lolz|1 httpsyoutubeB5yExFZFYwSee for yourself he is an international treasure|1 Some of them are sure Like the corporate subsidies a good example of socialist policies destroying an economy and ruining the minds of the youth|1 No one gives a shit I had an argument with my mum this morning Becuase my dad has a habit of having to go to the shops 3 times a day She said we are all gonna get it anyways so why care Sick of this shityou can prevent it and you want to prevent it Viral pneumonia is no joke Even if you are not in the age group that is more at risk It is fucking hell And no one knows the long term toll it takes on the body too This guy at work who is such a fucking patriot constantly goes on about war heroes and that stuff said it only affects old people And I was like you fucking hypocrite the people you said fought for our country are now expendable to you This ohh we are all gonna get it and its just flu mindset makes me sick I just want to leave the UK and move to South Korea once this all passes|0 Thanks bro|1 A switch to linear pricing and extreme linear pricing at that during a time of increased demand is still price gouging|1 For most countries YesFor the US where over half the population is overweight No Absolutely no|0 Ya we are for sure We got a friend who is giving us an empty house Buy a couple air mattresses and cozy up with some video games|1 I have a dumb question but dont really know where else to ask it I booked a 4day trip to Florida months ago which is next week Should I still go My girlfriend and I are both young and healthy 4 cases currently confirmed in Broward County FLAnybody weigh in I have a feeling the response from this sub will be heavily in the stay home camp|1 So the European centre for disease control is very good The member states didnt want to create a more harmonized health system and that was their choice remember that the EU is a collective not a federal government It only has the power member states want it to have Next year it is possible that member states give it more powers in this area but maybe less in others So it is not the fault of the EU it is the fault of member states refusing or vetoing|1 Small reminder to not simply kiss strangers even if you are really thankful this helps the spread of Corona |1 I said the CDC wont do anything Because they wont I then made a joke that The government wants this shit to spread apparently which is apparently alarmist for people who think that I was actually being serious|0 the virus young healthy people are on the menu|1 A lot more people are going to die if the global economy crashes due to fear The virus isnt even that bad youre refusing to compare its mortality rate to the flu because you want a horror movie|0 Steady hand|1 it doesnt feel like the end of the world that redditors are paintingWord of advice The Internet is a world of extremes Its either time to invest in a HAZMAT suit and never have any H2H interaction ever again until this blows over or nothing is happening at all and you can go do your own thing Business as usual which while not entirely untrue in most of the west is still silly to be that dismissive|0 Look Im as doomer as the next but that statement is just ridiculous Itd be silly to think ANYONE can make a 100 recovery That doesnt even make sense There are people who have a natural immunity to HIV Soit is insane to assume that this will leave every single person with long term effectsI think what you meant to say was Itd be silly to think that EVERYONE can make a 100 recovery Could there be some lasting issues for some people Yes You could argue that there will definitely be some lasting issues for some people You cannot realistically argue that every single person will have lasting issues|0 Im tired of seeing people claim that the cabins on board the Diamond Princess have their own ventilation systems They DO NOT Anyone making this claim is spreading misinformation httpswwwprincesscomnewsnoticesandadvisoriesnoticesdiamondprincesscoronavirusqahtml|0 When fate says youre being stupid|0 Way smarter than letting 800000 die|0 Flu is mutating all the time we know that some day we will face a deadly flu virus like the spanish flu in 1918 Flu is still a potential big threat just not this year|0 So I guess Ive got 2 questions1 How long before we can expect to see something peerreviewed on chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine Whether or not theres a formal doubleblind trial going on we should have enough patients being treated with it to get some kind of quantifiable data at this point shouldnt we2 Does giving chloroquine to patients early reduce the chances that mild symptoms will progress to severe ones or just reduce the overall chance of dying andor reduce the duration of illness|0 Is Trump still promising the numbers will soon reach near zero|1 Its gonna get worse|0 Go look at Singapore transparent acted early and slowed or stopped the spread We are the opposite|0 Happy to be of service|1 I wont trust Taiwans data for one second just like Japans|0 Probably Green Solution or something|1 Lived in LJ for awhile you definitely dont want to have coronavirus with that hospital unless things have changed|1 Yea but theyll have to say something when staffers start leaking info about how they knew Trump was sick and now they have it to Theres no loyalty in this White House Hell theyve leaked countless moronic or downright criminal information about the President so far Idk why theyd stop when he has a highly infectious disease lol|0 The school districts and businesses wont allow people to just stay at home So for those of us in these situations use your kindergarten rules wash your hands dont pick your nose cover your mouth when sneezing and coughing dont share things you touched you get it|0 Now picture USACE with the entire country standing behind them as one with the official message being whatever you need buddy all you gotta do is ask No infighting no partisan fighting no budget restraints etcThis is the strength of autocratic collectivism When it works it really works We just dont think its worth the price the rest of the time|0 I really want Fauci to be the head The current CDC guy is a joke He couldnt answer any of the questions and had to pass everything off The WHO Dr Tedros needs to be fired too|0 This sounds exactly like what my husband said years ago about something I had brought up that scared him I know this is exactly how he is treating this He is starting to see that I have been right about this situation since it hit Wuhan and he was calling me obsessed with it He sees it now he is fine with my prepping and doesnt make fun anymore has even just agreed today to take our kids out of school for at least the rest of the year and do online school but he will NOT talk about it|0 Im functioning but my anxious thoughts have significantly increased Bordering on depression I keep thinking Im in a nightmare|0 They tried and failed already I think Trumps resignation is more likely|0 and if you want to be a legal gun owner you have to do all kinds of things just to become one and than the ammount of useless gun laws theres almost no point|0 The basement will be fine Apparently our basement is like Montana|1 you should have seen what it was like when we had the fires out here in the Bay Area and power went out this is nothing|1 Make sure you have usefulmonetizable skills that can be traded IE wood working plumbing electrical etc Even gardening can work as you can do lawn serviceIn a great depression skills and goods are more valuable than money|1 He wasnt infected with Corona However its only a flu I dont blame him|1 They will absolutely raise production regardless of price gouging theyre selling shit loads as it is without charging 10X the normal price Stop defending this crap|0 Dont forgot the borderline zero work they did on world building in the early episodes They just were throwing out names of people places and organizations left and right with no explanation as though I had any idea what any of it meant I watched the whole thing even though I didnt like it because Im a glutton for punishment and even at the end I still didnt really feel like I had a grip on who factions were where the nations were etc To me it felt like someone had just pointed a fantasy name generator at my head and opened the spigot without bothering to make sure the things coming out had narrative relationships to each otherThen to that add in that so many of the episodes were on the order of oh this horrible magical thing happened to which someone would say no worries I have this magical XYZ black potion that will save the day Why was the magical thing bad in the first place Dunno just was Why does the magical XYZ or potion fix things Dunno just doesbut we arent going to bother setting up rules ahead of time through foreshadowing Geralt will just take a potion out of his pocketWhy was it never mentioned before in an analogous situation Dunno the script plot didnt need it then|0 I am saying that if you are in a reputable research institute you should have access to these papers already How else do you do your research If you say that you are a scientist and didnt have access to papers before this how can I even trust your research skills I agree that everyone has a role in fighting the virus But it doesnt mean that you automatically deserve an opinion just because you are involved in fighting the virus Why should I care about nurses telling me how to do vaccine development Or about doctors telling me about statistical modellingThat said you know what is worst than bad opinions Ignorance and the attempt to exploit the current situation for temporary fame Remember that Indian institute talking about how the COVID19 is a bioweapon because it has some similar shards of RNA to the HIV|0 That Tottenham ur thinking of in croydon ur likely to be screamed at|0 We may be the taxpayer but those rich dicks are the ones paying bonuses|1 Are you single Cause Ill marry you|0 See now the bbc has just reported the total deaths as of today is 104 citing public health england as their source but I dont see that anywhere on the PHE info so I must be missing something|0 Yes They do the dragonball fusion dance and become Coronabola virus|1 Damn it|0 No Terrible idea you could break the bag|0 Yep down the road from me its great|1 Were going to be fucked down here Too many people travel here to way too many destinations Whether its cruises beaches Disney Universal retirement communities Snowbirds or whatever it is that brings them here the nations largest population of retirees along with the rest of us are about to have a bad time|0 Fuck that dont be saying all leftists are peddling this Stupid conservatives are saying this is a hoax including your president|0 If the UBI was high enough theyd be right but 1000 a month youd be worried about housing in populous cities but not foodDisability and other medical help would still be necessary though|1 I am hoping so and think its a key part of my usual health I dont get sick often and honestly am missing my normal routine I will likely ease back into the cardio and start with some gentle yoga once I get back to feeling better but my body is longing to be in the pool or on a bike|1 Thats terrifying holy shit I could have it now and be dead in a few hours and I have no way of knowing|0 I mean all those things just stand for is Coronavirus Disease2019 and Severe Acute Respiratory SyndromeCoronavirus2Theres nothing really special about the names They are pretty interchangeable|0 Its by far the most effective thing you can do If we had the ability to magically lock everyone in their homes for 14 days ignoring the obvious food and water problems the disease would be eradicated Many diseases would be eradicated|1 I dont agree WHO data based on Chinese cases show 138 severe cases and additionally 61 criticalhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf Even if we cut these numbers by half it is still scary high And undocumented cases much harder to fight the outbreak|0 Why would the fatality rate be highest for those with pre existing cardiovascular diease Not all pre existing CAD disease is equal and I wonder if its age biased A otherwise healthy 50 year old with stents is much different than an 80 year old with heart failure and poor ejection fraction|0 Some healthy 40 and 50s something have died in Italy|0 SARS at least seemed to have had asymptomatic infectionhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3371799Not sure if this also meant that SARS could be passed if you had asymptomatic infection though|1 Sorry I dont Theyre still live and waiting for the PM to give the speech|0 CapitalismWhat other countries call price gouging in an emergency America calls the laws of supply and demandBut now they realize they dont have enough so theyre spreading the lie that masks dont work unless you went to medical school so youll stop buying them and driving the price up|0 They were produced in China and stayed in the country Do you believe China needs to import such stuff from other countriesThe people who were sending them masks meant well but probably dont know a lot about where stuff is produced in the world|1 I hope they put Mortal Kombat on every station because were going to be up to our ass in fatalities|0 Seattle going to be in a heap of shit if Harborview gets quarantined|0 I guess you could say its a small price to pay for salvation|0 most people are just a bundle of contradictions we really are a very interesting species of hairless ape|1 Yeah because the death of a sitting president totally wont have any consequences in the economic world|0 That explains some of it Google and FB shut the door pretty fast as well|1 There is up to date high quality information from the WHO at this link and it outlines the number of COVID19 cases that each country is reportinghttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019situationreportshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019situationreportsIsaac Bogoch MD|1 Good plan|1 Worries two things 1 The panic and the me first attitude of the general public Raiding grocery stores while standing in close proximity to each other is likely going to cause a spike in community transmission Hoarding supplies they dont need right now Low income families tend not to have spare cash OR spare space in small apartments to stockpile and they are suffering Elderly are struggling to get out and get supplies Pregnant women also Younger people with asthma etc who need to avoid crowds cannot get supplies Its infuriating 2 The uncertainty of the virus How long will this last If there was an end date we could prepare but theres none Hopeful 1 Every epidemic has a peak and a flattened curve It will end We just need to work through it2 Not to get political but I can start to see some of the left and right wing starting to agree on things Realizing that paid sick leave workplace accommodations for those who are caregivers for small kids or the elderly family members and financial assistance are a necessity Pull yourself up by your bootstraps is a goddamn fallacy We are members of a SOCIETY and society must function together or we ALL collapse|0 You too were in this together friend |1 Its the chicken little behavior of these uneducated trumplings Many people and families are going to be permanently be affected by this mans incompetence The idiots who voted for him and continue to support him will have blood on their fucking hands They dont realize that yet|0 Pros and consYes we can likely delayflatten the curve And it might have a measurable impact on the outcome for people Its not entirely clear how much a difference hospitalization will make on the mortality rate But it is also possible that the measures we all take will cause as much or more harm for society as a wholeFar too many peoples livelihoods are directly tied to their ability to go out and work Most Americans cant survive a few weeks without work to self quarantine Companies are cancelling events For hourly people thats basically the same as a pay cut or a layoff Companies some of them are starting to fire people Many are pausing hiring People will lose their homes and take on excessive debt to try and keep food on the tableMaybe Im cynical but I strongly expect that in the end there will be little difference in the percentage infectedmortality rate when comparing different locations responses to the disease and areas with the most aggressive policies designed to prevent the spread of the disease will be worse off for their efforts The curves might look different but so will the amount of time the area spends taking these measuresTime will tell Ill gladly admit if the evidence shows Im wrong|0 To be honest America functions best when every level of control down to the individual says fuck it well do it live or just lets roll if they dont like profanityOur success as a country is dependent on the performance of individuals not on the government|1 2019CoV demonstrates post infection viral shedding Germany 26Jan20 PCR testing of patient post infection showed high viral load 108 Virus particlesml virus capable of infecting even post symptom MERS showed similar findingshttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468|1 I went to 3 different grocery stores to buy supplies so I wouldnt look crazy|1 This shit is fucked up Living near a red zone in Germany and Im scared I cant imagine what it must be like in Italy|0 My theory as well This is a stepping stone on the path to finding out the true scope of this thing The news will break slowly as to cause less panic|1 As I was being eaten I was thinking about my insurance Woman who lost her face in bear attackhttpswwwindependentcouknewsworldamericasuselectionbearattackallenahansenfaceberniesandershealthcareinsurance2020electionsupertuesdaya9370156html|0 Me and a couple buddies setup a team when Rosetta announced folding COVID19 proteins Anyone can join and wed love to have you on boardx200BTeam name is Cephalopoda|1 Look to China and how they are back to businessLets hope everyone else can do as good as China did|1 I think theyll get appreciation when healthcare isnt prohibitively expensive|1 Yeah both of them are safe and sound |1 The virus did spread to other major cities in China In early February most of them had up to hundreds of confirmed cases IIRC No other country had that many cases at that time and most of them didnt even have close to 100 Edit Beijing had a total of 436 diagnosed patients in total Shanghai had 350 and Shenzhen had 420The difference is that in early February these Chinese cities were already under quarantine Those measures significantly reduced the chance of a patient getting in touch with others even before they develop symptoms Meanwhile patients in other countries were still running wild South Koreas superspreader was still attending cult gatherings Japan still had people who actually contracted the virus but were denied testingAs of March 12 local time per the official numbers there are still 13607 cases in China with 13171 in Hubei and 436 in other provinces So as of now its essentially contained in Hubei if you choose to believe them of course but Im just presenting the numbers But thats after all the quarantine and treatment efforts that had been going on in every single part of China ever since the Wuhan lockdown|0 Yes its confirmed positive|1 Just as a point of interestSweden just stopped testing the gov takes the view that the exact number is no longer as important as delaying spread Last figure 1k casesOnly tests still running are on the high risk categories|0 But dont forget that alcohol is used in hand sanitisers which is different to antibacterial soap and hand sanitisers are useful here|1 I was so completely overwhelmed when I read the posts in the thread about why a vaccine is unlikely that I completely understand why you feel the way you do I felt like why am I prepping if it just postpones us dying Then I read your post Immediately I wanted to tell you not to give up hope Something might work and stop it Maybe well be able to successfully hide from it long enough Maybe the virus will mutate in some way that makes it less horrible for us What we can do is prepare Educate ourselves Share knowledge and hope Do our best to stay alive for our loved ones Try to survive and come out of this aliveWe can take joy in each of these days right now we have sunrises and bubbles baths and wine and love and hope Remember what was left after Pandora opened the box of ills Hope|1 Effective immediately and until the US declares the Coronavirus health crisis officially over NO CREDIT REPORTING AGENCY should be allowed to post any negative info on any of usWHAT I DREAM ABOUT|0 Im of two minds here and Ill be lazy optimistic and say the ground truth is somewhere in the middleMind 1 China lied before and theyll lie again When the WHO visited to investigate SARS China hid caseshttpswwwsmhcomaunationalsarscrisischinaadmitsitsbigdeadlylie20030421gdgmuthtml I remember hearing that officials rounded up a bunch of patients 30 iirc put them on a bus and drove them around Beijing so that WHO investigators would see a problem that was well in hand already on the decline when they visited the hospitalMind 2 Its far easier to admit to 50k cases while concealing another 50K than it would be to assert 0 cases with even a few dozen floating around China has to know that theyre under the gun here and that theyre responsible for demonstrating true containment Thats why their response was to be more open than during SARS and its why they locked down domestic migration before other countries locked down international travelSplit the difference I think China has promising real data I think the quarantine is mostly working how can it not But I think the real story isnt quite as rosy as what theyre selling at least inasmuch as the number were stepping down from is much higher than what theyre saying even if its declining by a similar rate That makes the rest of the way more precarious and gives it a higher risk to fail At the same time theyre going to rush the numbers to as low a point as they can go in an attempt to get production and travel back online ASAP Fortunately I really dont think its going to work because the travel shutdown is coming from largely private sector decisions rather than government intervention Thats going to be the longestlasting impact on the government they screwed the pooch magnificently by subjecting western companies to enormous losses due to stupid decisions from provincial authorities and a delayed reaction from the center The private sector chain reaction that this triggers will be long extremely devastating and unavoidable|0 Youd be surprised how many 1st worlders dont wear a mask properly The American public is stupid and thats a fact|0 Im really feel proud to be a human when I see this kind of actions|1 Its Trump not the US There might be some assholes who support Trump in that but please dont think that the majority of us would ever want this to happen|1 THe only time the government is ok not releasing information is for Space Aliens Anything else needs to be disclosed|1 ok maybe not Important but it was kinda annoying when I actually needed it and had to call my parents like hey do u happen to have my diploma hanging on ur wall pls say yesno idea how long it would generally take to get a replacement from a school|1 KHAN academy online Free and awesome|1 The world is full of ignorant people Be strong Greetings from Italy|1 Love my Colorado community|1 As someone in Japan Ive been wondering this too The only things I can think of are that most people already wear masks especially this time of year due to coldsfluallergies and that people dont tend to closely interact with others quite as much as in no handshakes and such Public transportation tends to be packed though Low testing numbers as well about 16000 so far|0 I remember when China have 80k cases Right now they have 80k cases At least these are official I would like to say that I think they are lying and the numbers are worse but 1 I dont have proof 2 Theres no reason to not believe them becouse communists are never lying never ever 3 China did everything to warn rest of the world so they can prepare so now we can see how good its going in Europe and USA 4 Im dumb|0 Thank you I really hope your pup is ok Im a huge dog person so out of all of your post I focused on the sick puppy I would love to hear your dads stories of the Spanish flu Im assuming that your dad is no longer here but secondhand is great I was raised by my grandparents and I love the wisdom they passed down to me Im also a history nerd so its fascinating to me to hear the stories of something we never think we can experience I hope you and your family stay safe and sound And I wish your pup a speedy recovery Best wishes|1 familiar with the matter Where have I heard this a thousand times in the past 3 years right before a major retraction amendment or lawsuit|0 Asymptomatic children across the country are going to be passing this virus to their teachers bus drivers etc Its going to be really sad when older teachers on the brink of retirement land in the ICU or die because schools couldnt take precautions and close before it became widespread Its amazing that each country chooses not to learn from the countries affected before them They all feel the need to wait until its too late to act as if they are too good to get hit by this virus|0 I do hope in the long run they are rewarded by either our country or their employers Without them and other brave people we all would be in trouble|1 its because having the moral highground on someone and feeling smarter than someone on the internet is the fuel that runs the internet on sites like redditand porn|1 Tourism is a big reason People who wouldnt pay taxes help fund the parks too I know in Michigan plenty of state parks arent free but residents can pay something like 20 when registering their car to get in free|0 No but CCP disappears people all the time Not saying this will happen to Zhang but it happens in the normal course of business|0 Such is life we are all inherently lazy Thats why we have bosses and managers to light some fires|0 Thanks for the heads up I just cannot imagine anyone thinking Zika is harmless SMH|1 I believe they said by April we will know if the medication works on COVID Seeing positive signs though like the NYC drs colleague reaching out to Gilead today on Twitter Not sure how long it would take for FDA approval for COVID They can use it with the compassionate act though Its also not a new drug it was originally developed for Ebola|1 Quick Time to start harvesting and drinking the blood of our childrenSarcasm aside yea its very troubling This is like the perfect virus from hell|0 Yeah just a few months ago people were shitting on Chinas authoritarian quarantine shitting on the hospital construction as nothing but a show saying they were fudging their numbers Now the US has proven its even worse|0 Taiwan also did a terrific job Despite being only 80 miles from China theyve had 1 death and 50 cases They were the first country to ban flights from Wuhan And on the same day China announced unusual cases of pneumonia Taiwan began temperature checking flights from that region in their airports|0 I said 1918 not the 2009 pandemichttpswwwnihgovnewseventsnewsreleasesbacterialpneumoniacausedmostdeaths1918influenzapandemicThey are the same virus but not the same pandemic You cant directly compare the two I never said covid and flu were the same I simply stated that the actual deaths tend to be from secondary infection Pathologists of the time he adds were nearly unanimous in the conviction that deaths were not caused directly by the thenunidentified influenza virus but rather resulted from severe secondary pneumonia caused by various bacteriaDont bother studying it sounds like you are going to fail anywayhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalguidancemanagementpatientshtmlAmong hospitalized patients with pneumonia the case fatality proportion has been reported as 415|0 On the one hand I am worried this will introduce more cases from China to Italy which from what I can tell might be a differently evolved strain but on the other hand Italy seems to very well need this and I think the Chinese government owes this to the world after how poorly they dealt with the original outbreak|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well thats the best news Ive heard about this Ill hold on to that and hope for the best|1 China accounts for 13rd of the worlds smokers and consumer nearly half of the cigarettesAbout 55 of its male population smokes the female population doesnt 3China also has some of the worse air quality in the worldStop basing your theories on what is coming out of China|0 LMAO like fuck the Aussie govt would spend a single fuckin cent on us itd ruin the Crime Ministers mythical surplus budget|0 This is why we are screwed This will be perfectly manageable but people are going to behave like animals and make everything 10x worse than it needs to be|0 Did you take anything for your fever Or did you let it do its thing help fighting off infection |1 This sub needs to see that stat most of allx200BIts 3 order of magnitude to even get to 1 which is still in arguably a small fraction of the worlds populationx200BRationally you should refocus you fear on traffic accidents cancer and heart disease because even if this disease actually starts to spread like the flu those other 3 things would still be thousands of times more likely to kill you|0 Remember this shit is happening everywhere when you are trying to place the blame squarely on the government|0 So does Walmart My brother in law has autism and collects carts from the parking lot We called and asked if they could provide gloves or wipes Straight up no you can use your own if worriedI know they dont care for many years his hours are kept right under the limit to get health insurance He works every holiday weekend and shifts nobody wants He loves his job because he doesnt understand the abuse so we cant make him quit its all he knows|1 I can see now why they would want to keep testing to only those that have the contact and travel details to go with it This thing is pretty much an enhanced flu I bet there is a shit load of people that have had this either stayed home and recovered our went out about their normal lives and recovered none the wiser Why isnt the media using this to calm the panic Do they not realize if society collapses due to all their fearmongering that there will be no one to show their shitty advertising to|0 No This is incorrect and dangerous Please remove|0 completely agree scary times ahead I recommend watching joe rogan with virologist it was crazy|0 Oh no the celebs are getting tested I need one too LUL|0 Okay somebody explain to me why the exact post above this says theres only 15000 total cases yet this supposed to sing 70000 of recovered|1 Just play Plague Inc Its as good a model as any|1 On the bright side thanks to stringent quarantine measures China seems to have this virus under control for now though not sure how to prevent further outbreaks once people return to business as usual This means that supply of medicines materials etc should be less constrainedHowever in Europe and the US this virus is just getting started I could reasonably see this virus leading to a recession in Europe and the US within a quarter or two which would inevitably lead to a global recessionI think a lot depends on the following three conditions1 whether an effective treatment is found eg remdesivir chloroquine2 whether COVID19 is shown to be seasonal3 whether a vaccine is shown to be possible if people can be reinfected then a vaccine is impossible currently there are only a small handful of reinfections that may or may not be actual reinfectionsIf these three conditions resolve favorably the global economic impact will be limitedHowever note that most believe a vaccine if possible is at least 1218 months away which means that coronavirus could come back next winter Without an effective treatment the economy may continue to trend towards recession|1 I think thats a bullshit cover story coming from the regime thats been denying info arresting journalists and ramping up cremations Right now its all propaganda with their numbers surprisingly dropping and Wuhan still on lock down I dont trust the CCP or Pooh for shit|0 Only if they dont appreciate it|0 This doesnt have anything to do with isolated from countries it just has to do with Americans think that viruses are bullshit|0 Makes sense but I would think that the viral load would be more tied to working stress and not allowing your immune system to work over exposure|0 This thread has been locked due to large amounts of incivility and off topic political commentsWishing for the death or infection of anyone is grounds for being banned That should be obvious Please help this sub by reporting anyone who breaks this rule and using the up or down vote responsibly|0 Look Japan is in the same place with regards to the virus that Wuhan was six weeks ago only there arent any significant measures being taken and the population density in Japan is WAAAAYYY higher than in Wuhan At this point its almost guaranteed that Tokyo at the very least is going to see exponential growth of the virus simply due to the nature of this particular one In two months well be seeing similar quarantine measures and there is no way that the IOC will allow the games to be played here Even ignoring the risks to the athletes and spectators the optics of it are awful No one wants to go into a quarantine zone to watch beach volleyball no matter how hot the teams are|0 I have one You have a test tube full of media bacteria food There is one bacteria inside and every 1 minute it doubles At minute 60 all of the media in the test tube will be consumed and the bacteria will run out of food and starve At what minute mark is half of the available resources consumed Most people instinctively say 30 minutes because we know at 60 minutes all of it is gone so 30 minutes should be when half is gone right Wrong Thats linear thinking Half of all available resources are gone at minute 59By the time you realize youre halfway to collapse its a minute away Thats the exponential function|0 I think Boris is actually appealing to British peoples sense of duty here eg think of your neighbors and your grandparents and I dont think this sort of plan could work in many other countries I hate Boris and the Tories but I actually think he is showing the type of leadership the country needs for this crisis Obviously not everyone agrees but I still think we should be doing what we can as individuals to slow the spread and protect the more vulnerable around us|0 Hey thats me And Im sick right now|0 Crazy I am assuming your wife is self isolating and you should too Let your superiors know of the situation and hopefully there is financial compensation for you sick daysI am a nurse but part time I dont get paid for time off but I am preparing financially in case I need to isolate at some point I am hoping the government can help but I am not counting on itTbh this was more a focus of my preparation in the last few weeks than stocking the shelves|1 I do have such faith in my US government to save me s|1 Fun fact El Salvador translates to The Savior of the World|1 Alternative is a guess But 712000 isnt unreasonable at allJust so you know China infected is 2535 million|0 Are they giving up because they know the NHS wont be equipped to deal with this If they spin it as a courageously unconventional strategy they can take comfort in failing in a grand way To a vain person thats better than failing at trying to do what everyone else does|1 True|1 All I want you to do is tell me What does the mask do if its not filtering air that enters your body or preventing droplets from leaving it|1 Id estimate right now 515k based on its R0 value of spread Its been circulating in Washington since mid January you do that math on domestic traveladd to that the long incubation period and cases are just now probably starting to surface with a cough and slight fever|1 Thank you so much|1 Yeah my Walmart is out of all toilet paper as well as target Walmart has been out of disinfectant wipes this week and last Ive heard other Walmarts in the area further out arent as bad but havent had time to check Oh and we have all our canned goods and pastas but they were ravaged of instant noodles|1 shit my mom is the same she felt sick on and off for a few weeks|0 I believe only government can respond in a coordinated way to this crisis With your kind of thinking thered be no national highway system Thered be no health care system Thered be no schools EVERYONE WOULD BE ON THEIR OWN Its insane Thats not society Thats Hobbes state of anarchy Read Leviathan|0 Isnt like that when you prepare a short roadtrip and the 6th person doesnt get the invitation cause theres only space for 5|0 Agree on Chinese hygiene however this years title will go to downtown Los Angeles and San Francisco|1 Make sure you wrap in it tinfoil for maximum effectiveness |1 Incompetence and indifferenceWhich is fuckin criminally negligent|0 No it wasnt Here in Seattle things were already shutting down and we were watching Italy to see where it could go|0 Im not 100 behind it Im also not 100 against itIts just one of those things where you go Did the Trump administration deliberately blockade the CDC as some kind of sick thing because he likes the numbers the way they are or was it just startling levels of incompetencefor the record I think its more likely that the CDC has been deliberately sabotaged than that Germany deliberately hid numbers to protect financial interests before a neighbour fellEither way times are dark enough we dont need to imagine more especially those that cannot be proven either way Agreed|1 So honestly if you stare at reddit and the news all day youre only going to see deaths listed That has been tricking my brain into believing the fatality rate is way higher than it probably isand Ive gotta cut off from reddit at this point over it The unverified deaths are literally so unhealthy to read about|0 There are some with this attitude or at least there were until a few days ago especially among younger people A viral video has been making the rounds with young people partying in a crowd and saying stuff like Im young I cant lock myself in or Im young I wont get it|1 To be honest Id rather if they just lowered the rates Give everyone the introductory rates or lower Its overpriced anyway|1 Rural Idaho here No change in anything|0 Yes|1 And just a row of dots on the side representing annual flu deaths|0 I had viral pneumonia once as a kid Had me sick in bed for week and eventually I had a fever for so long plus the mucus cough that my mother took me to hospital They tested me and basically said since its viral there is nothing we can do and youre not bad enough to need hospital care so go home and rest Seems that is how this is going down|1 No they arent Those would be dividendsFrom wikipediaShare repurchase orstock buybackor sharebuyback is the reacquisition by a company of its ownstock It represents a more flexible way relative to dividends of returning money to shareholdersSo that was a fucking lie Theres more than one way to give money back to shareholdersYou are conflating debt based currency and credit markets with companies competing using debt based currency with credit markets available as tools when they are two very different things Your problem is with central banking and the people profiting from it You just dont know it yetThis sentence doesnt remotely make sense Im conflating debt based currency and credit markets withm debt based currency with credit marketsThe airlines werent taking on debt to finance growth they were taking on debt to finance buybacks which everyone in the world other than you knows is a way to distribute money to shareholders This left them with incredible debt to asset ratios that they cant manage in a downturn This downturn is especially bad for airlines but any economic downturn wouldve been enough to bring the house of cards crashing down|0 Fascinating I hope I will not need to try it out in practice but it is worth noting|1 The issue for me is understanding why these organizations even exist then if they can not or will not do their job when it comes down to it Theres all these fictitious representations of the CDC and truly it appears inept and self serving just as any other business with Im sure the people at the top making a damn pretty penny corrupting the naive grunts who want to make the world a bettersafer place Im sure this applies to many organizations and the military|1 And yet people read the US numbers and take them at face value If you think for one second the numbers reflect the actual reach of the virus so far then maybe its time to up your critical thinking game|1 The administration acts like it is contained or at the very least that they have it under control Theres just no way they can the ball is rolling faster than you can catch it|1 I mean if my doctor told me I wasnt contagious and I was feeling up to it Id still be out and about I think most if not all of us wouldEdit Also you think prescribing antibiotics and prednisone means that doctor thinks theyre fine I thought you said you worked in healthcare Starting to doubt that|1 I was responding to the remark that wearing masks is the biggest difference which is completely false Since people obviously dont trust me lets ask WHOhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasks If you are healthy you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019nCoV infectionWear a mask if you are coughing or sneezingMasks are effective only when used in combination with frequent handcleaning with alcoholbased hand rub or soap and waterIf you wear a mask then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly|1 Agreed Hopefully we will also have some sort of drug like how we do for AIDs soon|1 nCoV is basically SARS little brother Its not like hes comparing tobacco mosaic virus to smallpox|0 Welp look like it was true and were only two weeks in|1 Home remedies is probably recommended for mild syndromes The problem with China right now is that people panicked and overcrowded the hospitals|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 cytokine storm did cause a lot of death in healthy adults for the spannish flu as far as i know there were no confirmed observations of cytokine storm for COVID19 altrough some doctors made such claims|0 Theres a global shortagehttpswwwgooglecaampsamptheguardiancomaustralianews2020mar14coronavirusaustralianstocksofcovid19testingkitsrapidlydeterioratingsayschiefmedicalofficer of test kits so theyre being forced to ration This isnt being done by choice Hopefully theyll secure an alternative source of kits soon and can increase testing scope|1 The ironic thing is that if everyone would just calm down for a hot second the stores will all be restocked by Wednesday and there will once again be toilet paper on the shelves Let the state authorities and the feds go after the price gougers and just chill out for another couple of days|1 Just like humans|1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200321 221617 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Nah that cant be right I was told the first weekend in March they tested 15m people Right ubunzinderimen |0 The more it mutates the higher the chances are it will become more mild because killing the carrier doesnt help out the survival of that strain|0 Thanks Dr Nancy|1 This guy gets that being there for people in a crisis will result in lifelong loyalty Any money he spends right now will be paid back 10fold The fact that its also 100 the right thing to do just makes it sweeter But he gets it Heroes are made at times like this|1 No I mean you have the number of new casesdeaths by day but not how much of a percentage growth that represents in relation to the day before Unless its there and Im not seeing haha|0 Everyone hesitates to declare such timing as we once did and the patient 31 event happened skyrocketing the patient number No one is quite sure how much will be infected and when this epidemic ends in South Korea but unofficially we expect about 34 weeks|0 You are proof of CCP propaganda D|0 Very cool move by Costco Stay safe|1 Yep exactly If done when the spread in a community is low better to temporarily raise the risk so people can more effectively isolate themselves with what they need to remain healthy|1 Thank you|1 Emergencies happen Be prepared|1 Can confirm been to India Thailand and have no reason to believe this country is any different toilets are disgusting for men but especially wimen|0 Well I studied to Masters level does that put my opinion above his since he only went to Bachelor level I was reacting to the appeal to authority in the OP Its one of the things that used to drive me nuts when I was in the medical field sooo much appeal to authority and sheer arrogance For the record Im not defending homeopathy here|0 Ah So China is able to suppress andor brainwash their citizens enough so they dont overthrow the government or secede unlike the late Soviet Union but theyre too powerful for someone to call them out on it|1 There needs to be more of a coordinated effort to encourage people to wear home made masks a herd mentality of face coverings People spit when they talk and cough on everything This need to be done at least with all grocery and retail employees so they dont spread to customers|1 Ok NOW its fixed|1 Thank you and my advice would be listen to what your local authorities are saying as they will have the best idea of what plans are in place for your locality Most US states have pretty robust emergency plans particularly those that get hit by hurricanes that can be adapted for this So far theres been no indication that food energy or any other supplies are being badly affected Most people who get severely ill are elderly not the workers who keep essential infrastructure running so even if people are asked to stay indoors food could still be distributed door to doorBut having said that having a months worth of tinned dried foodcans around that wont spoil and you can eat anyway if quarantine isnt needed wont do any harmYou might want to have a look at rpreppers its quite a levelheaded sub with some good advice|1 IMO the Government fully realise these figuresThe reason theres no panic is because the Government cant see a way out of this and have just decided to stay calm and carry onBelieve me if the government could afford to quarantine everyone for a month in their own homes for a month it would be done The Government cant afford it dont have the food resources and cant deal with the breakdown of society I also know for a fact that if a great big asteroid was on its way then the worlds governments would hush it up until a few months before even if they had known about it for years|1 Cause we have around 200 beehives producing us over a ton of honey every year I dont know if you can survive with honey but will help your immunity|1 Its criminal|0 If you come to Taiwan successfully please remember to bring masks I dont know how thing will turn out in April but right now its now very convenient to buy masks here|1 The other counter point is if coronavirus infected as many people as flu did it would kill way more people than flu It would kill more people than flu even if the mortality rate is currently running 10 times higher than its actual rate 34 Vs flus 01 I dont think estimates being that far off 034 to 34 is possible but its a good example of how flu kills more is just wrong |0 Are we gonna just gloss over Iran to get the desirable headlines yup we are Seriously Iran has dozens of videos of people collapsing in the streets and shallow graves|0 Okay but why couldnt we invent coronavirus breathalyzers in those 100 years Something else it goin on here|1 the spread in the US that going to happen is the fault of the current administration and their inaction this administration will go down in infamy no point trying to censor the scale of how badly the US government has fucked this up we are now dealing with the consequences of THEIR inaction|0 1 I have read about people recovering from it and being discharged in the hospital only to test positive again in a few days and consequently dying as is the case in China Why do you think this happens Does it mean the virus is just dormant and could just wake up again 2 Also read that children or babies recovered quicker is there something different about their immune systems vs adultsThank you in advance|1 China is a big place where are you Thank you for sharing your experience|1 I guess a bright side to this is that the virus will get rid of most of the antivaxxers for us Their immune systems are already so comprised|1 3 reports all of which are well under the threshold for false negative tests|0 Walmart did it so McDonalds better follow|1 maybe the virus mutated once again and now children is at risk If the virus mutated again then this might be a hell of a virus plus if it really mutated then all people who recovered will probably get this virus mutation some chinese were infected twice The more people it infects the easier is for the virus to find a host in which can be mutated into something else|0 Everyone is outRestaurants are full of peopleYes thats the problem|0 Thats Jude Laws character from Contagion|0 I was wondering that as well All people and business would be much better off in full lockdown if rent money wasnt flying out the door Like the whole economy needs to stop except for the people who need their rent money|1 So the Swedish healthcare system couldnt prepare in time for the situation that I am independent person with no medical training and living in a less developed Eastern European country could You reap what you sow|0 NBC was pushing wash your hands its no big dealso much last night Funny how when coverage was only about China it was the world is ending Now that it is here its no big deal My husband reminded me of this I hadnt thought about it this way Really shows how bs USA government is|0 Great thanks for the list Ill look at how to buy some of these|1 Thank you for your post helecx|1 Thats what scares me|0 Im so sorry Im just so sorry for all of our medical staff You are all being asked to carry an unmanageable load If we ban send anything my local hardware store has nitrile and latex gloves I can send you I hope you manage to avoid the worse All I can say is Im sorry|0 Only if you dont die|1 Sharp edged weapons dont win gun fights|0 Walmart used to buy life insurance Walmart as the beneficiary on its lowest paid employees and was fined and or told to stop Or maybe they were shamed Let me find a source|0 You can cherish the look on his face today when he was sooo angered by the questions of the Olympics would be canceled|0 please what is uri|1 Since transmission is suspected via urine and feces my money is on R Kelly|0 Youre in Shanghai then How bad is it over there|0 Im prepping from moms basement haters gone hate|0 Nah this is on the ignorance of people People in the Southern Italy still dont care for the quarantine that much they will need to bring out the military sometime soon|0 I dont know you either but you sure sound like a shitty person|1 Do not believe the false assurance Numbers about to surge|1 Are you kidding Fever and pneumonia symptoms and LRTI should be tested Not everyone|1 Its a risky gamble and experiment while putting lives of people at stakes Uncertainty is still here No one can ensure the herd immunity is workable for this novel coronavirus and people will not die of it|1 Basically this Im by no stretch of the imagination a supporter of this govt or Boris but they are in a loselose scenario Literally whatever they do will be a PR disaster cus at the end of the day people have died and will continue to Doesnt matter if its 50 or 250000 people there is gonna be massive backlash from this|0 Were still about a year out from a vaccine unless theres a huge breakthrough|1 Almost all democratic governments have the ability to shut down businesses temporarily and take various measures for public health They are limited in their ability to stop public gatherings and communications|1 So you think is a optimal enviromental factor to be quarantined because of a mortal pandemic|1 Second most reported cases and deaths Iran is almost certainly far higher|1 Goodness I cant imagine walking around with one of those|1 Clubs and footy fine But if they close the pubs where the hell are we meant to go for a pint to wait for all of this to blow over|0 you cant be turned away from the emergency departmentthe average cost of an ER visit is more than 1000that turns people away on its own by preventing them from seeking treatment in the first place the majority of americans avoid or delay medical treatment because of how much it costs i dont think you understand how much harm governments do to their citizenswhen you delegate responsibility of some aspect of society to certain people thats the beginning of a governmentum what are you saying that any kind of delegation implies a government there have been many anarchist communities and they all involved delegation|0 Reschedule my dude Call the line dont do online chat CMs are usually quite helpful if youre nice and patient Theyll work with you to get as much possible rescheduled|1 Ha Yeah I figured that might be it but then with texts lack of tone of voice I wondered if you were actually being 100 serious|0 Thats because they implement intensive testing and close schools and social gathering way before thisSingapore has actually kept its schools open this entire time Hong Kong closed its schools down really early but other public areas have stayed open as well Theyve definitely put in intensive testing and tracing in place but then theres places like Thailand which doesnt have those capabilities and didnt really close down public places either yet didnt see a huge surge in cases over the past few weeks Now I think with the situation in Malaysia well see more stringent measures taken in places like Singapore but its not simply closing down public places early because that literally isnt the case in somewhere like Singapore|1 Youre making a lot of weird assumptions about peoples grandparents Your experiences are not universal|0 Its really not that exceptional Over 70s have a 92 chance of surviving and over 80s have around a 85 chance of surviving so people like him probably have around a 60 chance of surviving|1 You dont Welcome to reality|0 More deadly for those age groups than the seasonal flu When looking just at COVID taking the seasonal flu out of the picture its most deadly for older adults|0 You tried to nit pick wording but didnt actually read enough to nit pick properly Dont blame others for your own faults|0 I couldnt agree with you more Glad to know there are others going through exactly how I feel I was called a fearmongerer in late Feb Then called crazy overreacting anxious going overboard I just think how it would feel to be a doctor trying to convince people how serious it is and no one listening It can drive a person mad Its like Im not crazy I just read international health news JFC|0 Great breakdown thanks I fear a lot of Americans are not taking this situation serious enough I keep overhearing people saying its a joke or its made to get rid of Trump I wonder when America will wake up I hope things get better for all of us friend|1 There was this website I saw on a Peek Prosperity video that offered more graphs based on the Hopkins data What youre looking for is a rolling window mortalityrecovery rate they had 2 with 7day and 10day window And a double derivative function for infections this tracks changes to the daily infected cases and is similar to your approach it should be completely flat as long as the growth is linear and fall under 1 if the disease stagnates|0 You good|1 Ah I misunderstood my fault Well then tell your other half you are making a formal request for them to work at home with you your other half then gets to choose between whos request is more important yours or some random prick|0 The Peak Prosperity is bs They want to tell a narrative They report and emphasize lots of unconfirmed statements They want to fit the news to their narrativeIn one clip when reporting about lung damage after recovering from the Coronavirus disease they literally said that we are not sure about that Two minutes later they told well even if they recover theyll have lung damaged anyways as if its already the fact Like dude thats horseshitDr Campbell on the other side is much more careful about nonofficial news If he gets any unconfirmed information hell clarify that right away And he doesnt take that unconfirmed reports as a new standpoint And bonus point for Dr Campbell theres no bs subscribenotification in his videos Ending is ending|0 Failure is not defeat Failure is giving up I am going to help Citizens take The Government of USA back from Corporations or happily die trying|0 These people have been isolated in their cabins for almost a week now Now gatherings Still confirming new cases|0 She aso said voters dont understand democrats because democrats are too smart|1 There are lots of parents especially NHS workers police etc that will not easily find childcare during school hours so the school could stay open but with less children and restrict the amount of people that could spread the virus to parentsgrandparents and the wider community|0 This is so true Usabritainaustralia There should be a name for the sad response of this troupe|1 Thanks friends I dont really have a family doctor and definitely not here Im from Canada but my work is super on it now and just sent out a company wide email to collect info Since we research diseases here Im sure theyll have well informed thoughts for what to do next|1 No yet ruled out The chief virologist at the local school of medicine mentioned pangolins yesterday in conversation|0 Aint no stopping us now|1 Hi Dr ColeDo people that have received flu vaccine have any better protection compared to non vaccinated people Or is the effect of the vaccine non existent against COVID19|1 14 days isnt enough I think 21 days would be the minimum In 14 days infected people can infect their family at home You need enough time for you to show symptoms pass it on to someone else and for them to show symptoms and for everyone to to go the hospital In order for it to work there has to be infrastructure in place too Full hazmat style hospitals everywhere for patients and millions of tests ready to go You dont want a 3 week lock down to have numbers creep back up immediately because hospital staff who are almost guaranteed to get infected spread it again You have to be able to protect hospital workers first and you have to have testing in place to prevent it from spreading again|0 Okay OPs sourcing sucks but that IS actually a thing Its an expectedlogical thing According to WHO guidelines an initial negative test shouldnt be accepted as definitive especially if its a sample from the upper respiratory tract rather than the lower one and repeat testing should occur in seriousprogressing cases with suspected nCoV linkshttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronaviruse20200114interimlaboratoryguidanceversionpdfsfvrsn6967c39b4downloadtrue see first grey info box sectionIt makes medicalphysiological sense If its hiding in the lower lungs a sample from the upper lungs might not have a detectable viral loadIt definitely shouldnt be interpreted as omg maybe this guy really does have nCoV Medics know this can happen so they wouldnt be announcing people as negative unless they were sure Theyll have done multiple tests and taken samples from multiple sites|0 My brother and sister in law who live with me put up with me stocking up for the last month Tonight they went to the store and took a list I added for toilet paper and paper towels and found nothing Not a pack at walmart The found the soup aisle comlete empty and bought 3 cases of water the last 3 left because my brother takes water to work with him They found nothing in the meat aisle either NADA They said it was terrifying how many aisles were completely empty They came home and thanked me for stocking up I prepared for 2 months for the house And yes I had gotten toilet paper cat food etcbut wanted one more large pack My brother is finally opening his eyes to the faint possiblity of quarantines or lock downs He doesnt understand the concept of hospitals getting too full and people dying at home yet I do not understand how he didnt catch on in January Seriously Im the main supporter of the house so I guess I have to be on top of it|1 were supposed to have the best medical system on the planetif you have a shitload of spare money to pay for it For everyone else your system is below subpar|1 Yay us Grrrr|1 Look up repurchase agreements and the federal reserve You need to educate yourself before you talk|1 These publications always pay wall Assume they do and either provide the text or archive I just made a post about this too This info should not be behind paywalls|0 Not only dont they promote capitalism they literally punish it |0 Theyre trying to bribe Americans into still voting for TrumpLet them try They can try it a few times on me I dont mind|0 Dank my fellow humans You will do well|1 Its more that its unrealistic in movies that everyone works together in harmony|1 Thank you Ive been following this since early Jan but theres so much new info I havnt been able to keep up the past week This is amazing and very helpful|1 You are describing the IFR which even with the flu is just a calculation CFR is what we have to work with|0 So we went from low risk nobody has this yet just wash your hands to hey EVERYONE has this theres no point in testingSee climate change Its not happening Its tool late to do anything Yay America|0 Honestly my family are still laughing about it all and cant believe the words that come out of my mouth Whenever I see a good deal on food I tell them about it and beg them to stock up 14p for ramen from tesco and the chicken one is actually nice with some salt and pepper Do you have a source on next week vulnerable people are being told to self isolate I tried googling but didnt see anything I worry because my partner works for Deloitte but he is technically considered self employed so does not have sick pay Without me working we would have nothing I honestly hope Im not right though I dont see it turning out that way Good luck to you and yours stay safe|1 Yep Chinas response has been drastic but to an extent it has to be Without them building a hospital in 72 hours the deaths would have been higher|1 ds forget about your own thoughts and speculation and just prepare for the worst You must set aside your ego and make sure you have done everything you can with any chance of necessity to make sure youthey are in denial its a safety mechanismhttpsniemanharvardeduwpcontentuploadspodassetsmicrositesNiemanGuideToCoveringPandemicFluCrisisCommunicationHowDoPeopleReactInAPandemicaspxhtmlfbclidIwAR30gPwH6NJkzq485Vlu7NH8a0N3H6O3AKeGRSYoyyad7eMMuMzhGd3ENAhttpsniemanharvardeduwpcontentuploadspodassetsmicrositesNiemanGuideToCoveringPandemicFluCrisisCommunicationHowDoPeopleReactInAPandemicaspxhtmlfbclidIwAR30gPwH6NJkzq485Vlu7NH8a0N3H6O3AKeGRSYoyyad7eMMuMzhGd3ENA|1 Lolthis whole sub is based on fear mongering|0 That isnt conspiratorial thinking its cynical thinking And thats the kind of thinking thats kept me glued to these subs since january|0 There is a decent chance you know more than 5 people over the age of 70 A 20 mortality rate among the elderly will probably affect you You will live and so will your kids but your parents may die|0 They couldnt selfquarantine in their mansions though because they were in Oklahoma City You had 58 people who shared a locker room with someone who tested positive and travel frequently It was very important to know if they were infected|1 THIS so much When this is all over and people started asking questions such as why did everyone not take it more seriously part of the answer should be because the media has cried wolf so much in the past|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 And we all beat the price increases we are going to see So we saved money too I am at peace not worried about me or my husband or our adult children and grandchildren They prepared weeks ago too None of us will be in the madness when it hits our area and I hose who did not prepare are all running to the store at the same time causing shortages and spreading COVID19 throughout the community That will be the its no worse than the flu crowd|0 Damn Bridge club is off Youre kidding me|0 My understanding is R0 is situationalIn naive populations taking no precautions R0 could be 4766httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1 In urban populations under high medical surveilance like China outside Hubei the new cases number has steadily declined indicating a R0 under 1And in confined institutitional settings like a cruise ship or prison where individuals are physically isolated but in close proximity sharing ventilation an R0 of 228|1 Printed money to buy bank assets on a short loan that the bank buys back and the fed burns the money off its sheets so it doesnt exist anymorein about as simple a form as possible|1 Its amazing how people will blindly follow the social elites as they endorse other social elites and unironically think they care about youBuh buh they promised me free stuff|1 Talking about talking about politics is ok Way easier than talking about facts|1 Yes I am aware that the mainstraim media in the weat are not mentioning much about using masks It is no good as it clearly has a role in here plus there would eventually be an occasion for anyone to use a mask So why dont they take this opportunity to teach the public about itIn Hong Kong we currently use 1 surgical maskday due to the shortage in supply Three hours is not a problem at all but if you are not used to it you should start try wearing it and get adapt to it We wont change it unless it got wet or dirty In case you have a beard get it shavedhttpswwwcdcgovnioshnpptlimagesinfographicsFacialHairWmaskLGjpg in order for your mask to fit closely and have a better sealingYou can watch this WHO videohttpsyoutubelrvFrHnpQI to learn how to put it on and take off properly without touching the surface of the mask and get your hands contaminated This would be useful in case you want to take it off for a second to breath in fresh air during the exam in case it is too hot|1 Good point you cant But maybe in a few months OP could find a new job|1 No the core assets ie company shares are not dependent on the main market you can trade them if the market is closed its less convenient less clear and theres less liquidity as its more difficult to find a counterpart but you certainly can do it A company being listed on NYSE means that the already existing assets can be traded on NYSE it does not mean that they get traded only on NYSE It already routinely happens in aftermarket trades eg in the hours when NYSE is closed its just that the volume is much lower and the prices arent publicHowever if someone needed to liquidate their brokerage account and the main market is closed then its plausible that theres no liquidity that you cant quickly find a buyer or you cant find a buyer at a decent price You are allowed to sell but you need to find someone whos willing to buy usually the market does that for you but if you want to do it outside of the market then its on you how you contact them how you negotiate how you settle etc are all open questions Perhaps your brokerage might be willing to act as a market maker and just buy these assets off of you at a reasonable price and perhaps they wont be willing to do so|1 Were all going to die anyway right|0 Reddit people who impulse buy out of fear are the worseAlso reddit we gonna die because we didnt care|0 Remember when we were collectively upset at 2016 as we lost celeb after celeb Lets hope 2020 doesnt surpass that|0 I hear you fellow OhioanI definitely expect to see more closures It makes me nervous in a way because people here started really panicking after the school closures were announced I feel like an announcement on closing all nonessential businesses would have them in a frenzyIve already seen people talk about resisting quarantine if it came down to it The stupidity drives me insane and has been one of the most worrisome things for me These people are willfully ignorant and willing to put others at risk Ugh|0 Thats true I forgot there is no public in there just the fighters sEDIT I wasnt aware this was a fight closed to the public|0 Even when I was a kidbeing sent to my room or grounded as punishment Good|0 Americans are reportedly doing similar things China may have used their harsh governing to keep people inside by force This is one of the downsides of freedom but in the long run it is worth it|1 No toilet paper no food no meat or eggs Unless you like spicy raman and vienna sausages then the supplies are running low and NOT being restocked You have to run to multiple stores just to get a small amount of anything useful Even fresh produce is now starting to get hit hard as the non perishable supplies run out The only ones not taking this seriously is our government and businesses|0 The great state of Georgia can test 100 a day They are hoping to double it soon|1 lol what do you know What do you think is an acceptable risk I should take for MY kidIm sure no one cares what you do with your life but that doesnt mean you should be shitting on people for caring about their families|1 Children and families arent the only people who enjoy these parks and vacation here Period That is an uninformed and narrow view Source Former Castmember Disney intern and current childless Annual Passholder|1 pssst does Israel have nuclear weapons|0 Here in Italy all kinds of gatherings are banned full stop And you also cant be closer than 1m to other people Try to beat that|0 Yeah I was thinking to myself today I wonder if Bill Gates is in his bunker yet|1 Trump said they would cover treatment no co pay they said no just test Hes got a causal relationship with facts Doesnt get facts matter in this type of thing|0 If you listen to his full address earlier it was the most grim and sobering Ive heard Pretty much he was admitting NYC area hospitals will be overrun and people will absolutely die because of it Was it all true Yes Would it absolutely inspire panic You bet Scary times|0 Flurazepam Great idea assuming the respiratory depression doesnt kill your already vulnerable ARDS patients I suppose its fine if theyre already on a vent|1 Well the rest of the world got better healthcare and all that crap We have a very vulnerable population|1 Absolutely I was worried about that I need to get a mask If someone wants help Ill ask them to leave list under their mat then get what they need and leave it on front step Ill have to wear gloves to pick up items and figure out how to get for the goods but thats not as important at the moment Its surreal|0 And when they go back to normal they will go right back in unfortunately There are now 100 countries and how many cities in China outside of Wuhan that have this|0 Thats amazing Glad youve got such gusto AND got what you needed|1 The title should accurately depict what the article talks about If the title doesnt accurately depict the body the title is lousy|0 Japans debt per capita is the highest in the world|0 I havent seen it posted yet but the CDC turned over the tracking to each state individually Each States Dept of health will track cases rather than the CDC trying to do it all and potentially making mistakes But yeah its a coverup|0 It also helps that A they had the first SARS outbreak which probably incentivized preparednessB they have a lot of pollution and smokers so respiratory diseases are more common than in the westC Wuhan was known as the medical capital with countrys top medical universities and whatnot|1 We have just been told we cannot leave our hotel for 14 days why did no one tell us anything on the flight or when we went through customsFucking country let us in with no warning and now wont let us out|0 My 2 cents Probably but its likely not a 1020x factor as there is likely also an underestimated cause of death Respiratory issues I dont think are uncommon so its possible that their is an increase in respiratory deaths that is unaccounted for The mortality rate as I understand it also wont count the increase in deaths of other causes because of an overburdened healthcare system This is why it is important that we as a planet focus on stretching out the spread as much as possible The mortality rate could skyrocket if our healthcare system becomes too overburdened|0 Im not sure N95 adds much Thats for airborne pathogens like TB For droplet transmission viruses like this one and flu regular masks are likely just as good|1 There is a joke in my community As this virus only have an incubation period for 14 days Assuming you use one per day you only need 15 masks and then you could repeat using them|1 Alles is met elkaar verbonden We hebben geen gebieden die wat apart staan van elkaar Itali wel dan Ik ben er nooit geweest maar het lijkt me toch ook niet|0 Its not profitable Per trip VC missed last year and missed hard|0 Medical is if you have a doctor sign off on it And CBD Ive been trying to talk my mom into growing in her greenhouse shes still thinking about it lol|1 Ill call again tomorrow When I called 2 days ago they said I would need to have a fever or shortness of breath before they would test They stated that they were reserving tests for those who show severe symptoms|0 Im sure hes stoked he definitely softened the ground for this|1 Peak Prosperity and John Campbell are the start to my morning every day That boom is going to hurt A lot|0 Well Im guessing those rich investors have all moved their money to their safehavens and biomed investments So NOW we can finally begin to call it a pandemic|1 Were all making China look pretty fucking good|1 Im using them for the Sterilization of large areasThey are typically used in microbio classes to clean eyeware but are being used in airplanes and hospitals too|1 I assume that a package like this would only need a simple majority so even one R being for this is big|1 One person can infect dozens So while its not necessarily an oh fuck moment in itself its the implications|0 I also feel the same I am worried about my father He has diabetes Everyone around me keeps telling me that Im overthinking But I cant stop worrying about my father I hope that this virus goes away as soon as possible|1 I wonder what the possibilities are for testing for viral infection not otherwise specified or coronaviral infection not otherwise specified It seems it would be worth including something like that in viral panels by Biofire etc and paying the manufacturers for including it The diagnostic value of the test would be low but the value for epidemiological surveillance seems so great that I imagine the thought would bring tears to the eyes of CDC staff Imagine how very differently events would have played out had patients tested positive for an unknown virus instead of negative for every tested class of influenza|1 Of course you should Germany is yet another country with terrible management and a serious outbreak on hands You really dont want to be another dumbass that goes there and comes back infected|0 Like the normal flu where you feel like death|0 I dont care about getting sick I just really REALLY dont want the government to stick me in a hospital somewhere for a month|0 I agree the solution via unemployment insurance is better than having companies paying sick coronavirus leaves|1 Did it make the dehydration worse|0 Yep exactly this Ive never seen the government properly manage a crisis Its a clusterfuck every single time|0 Chinas labor regulations are improving and wages are increasing which has strained a resource that corporations once considered highly valuable if not exploitive China is struggling between improving working conditions and remaining a cost effective manufacturing hub|1 I dont see any bullshit here You turn as many beds to ICU as you can you put the nonICU patients in other buildings schools and other large areas owned by government being great for this You will also need to quicktrain some nurses to deal with the people|1 Well it is pretty logical that densely populated areas are going to experience a faster spread|1 Honestly not sure what to expect from the flu and my symptoms but the virus will absolutely continue to spread exponentially|0 I think at least in America MrLin Shengbin would get his justice he wouldnt have to settle he would be able to sue the fire department and building management company since they delayed rescue and purposely hung up his wifes call when trapped in fire|0 Have you thought of testing now Your cough is still around You need 2 negative tests to be confirmed as recovered|0 Radiation at the very high doses work too cant forget that|1 Poteen surely|1 I work in roofing and all the stormers and IAs lost their ass on that puppy|0 Yeah Im not putting much stock in this vaccine|1 That has always been dangerous though Especially in America A recent surge of gun sales and ammo sales is a common thing that happens in America any time a notable event happens 911 H1N1 any mass shooting this etc Just cause people stock up like this doesnt mean its going to be full blown Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid in the streets Its just something people do to feel more comfort depending on how this unfolds i could see maybe a short period where crime may spike some but i highly highly doubt were gonna see shootings skyrocket PLus at the rate things are going with lockdowns coming a chance of the National Guard getting called up yeah nobody is gonna take the chanceAlso FWIW i work at a shop in the PNW A lot of people who flocked our stores are repeat buyers Lots of these people are already owners who have now bought more ammo to have and more guns Its not like all of a sudden the amount of new gun owners in america just shot up 90 Also dont worry about the guns and ammo Theres more pressing things to worry about these days|1 I dont know if that is accurate While we dont really know the nature of the disease yet there are differences that could easily explain why the other diseases never caused the same problemsSARS MERS too deadly symptoms showed quickly aka people go to hospital or die before passing it onSwine flu While more dangerous than the flu it wasnt that much more dangerous This was actually a case where calling it just a bad flu was somewhat accurate Also it is my understanding that some of the classic flu treatments were effective unlike COVID19 which we can only treat symptomsEbola way way too deadly plus it didnt spread as well through common body fluids like salivaCOVID19 seems to be super contagious before symptoms show like the common cold is but then is also moderately dangerous and we have no real way to treat it|0 We will be okay as long as we sing a song while washing our hands|1 Exactly I wonder how many CCP officials made a fortune off manipulating the numbers while risking everyone elses lives|0 I imagine this is a significant deal for a lot of people in the village I looked Son Loi up on Google Maps and it appears to be less than 1hour away from Hanoi I imagine a lot of people there commute into the city for workHopefully they can get back to work soon Yes Vietnam is a cheap country to live in but 40000 Dong a day is very little even for Vietnam if I remember correctly thats enough for a couple of basic meals but nothing more than thatActually I just saw you say you are Vietnamese OP so I should ask what do you think Is 40000 quite low or enough to live uatomdie|0 States dont have enough tests CDC is overwhelmed with testing They only have the slow version that can test for 10 or so at a time The US was slow to realize how important testing would be even though any fool could have looked at China and realized this was a Big F Deal Itll be mid April before States have testing capacity They are trying to keep their tests reserved for really sick people at this time Bummer But thats where were at|0 Wow This could be huge|1 Yes|1 For comparison here are the cdcs yearly stats for usaNumber of deaths for leading causes of deathHeart disease 647457Cancer 599108Accidents unintentional injuries 169936Chronic lower respiratory diseases 160201Stroke cerebrovascular diseases 146383Alzheimers disease 121404Diabetes 83564Influenza and Pneumonia 55672Nephritis nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis 50633Intentional selfharm suicide 47173|0 Had to repost because the other post got removed because it was a twitter link AnywaysSpeaking to French media Agnes Buzyn said one case of the virus had been confirmed in Bordeaux while the second had been found near Paris marking the first confirmed cases of the novel virus in EuropeShortly afterwards a third case believed to be a family member of one of those to have already been announced was confirmed in the countryThe minister who said both of the initial cases had travelled to China added that she expects more to emerge within the nations borders|1 Yes there has been negative n days later they were positive But I believe the cdc changed the test now So letz hope it not an issue anymore|1 This retraction is going to draw more attention to the original article which is a good thing It just prompted me to read it for the second time I hope that the authors of the original article are safe|1 Right I mean overall Id trust my doctor but at the same time the first reports of drug shortages from China came in last week|1 Its fundamentally the same vaccine that gets slightly tweaked yearly to adjust for the predicted antigens of that year There were some new kids on the block recently like Flublok a recombinant vaccine by Sanofi Pasteur It works it was proposed mostly because its not grown in eggs but the folks at Sanofi which is a pharmaceutical giant promptly saw the opportunity and now are trying to develop a SARSCOV2 vaccine with the same method|1 So as an American where do I have to fly to get tested wtf |0 Lol come on Youre just more aware now Believe me people were coughing long before this Im really sensitive to others coughing and sneezing or just generally making gross noises and people have been doing this forever Especially during flu and allergy season|0 well then the mortality rate is way lower if you do math and assume countries like Germany and South Korea did a pretty good job testing because their fatality rates are substantially lower than average and assume Italy is missing a ton because their fatality rate is sky high Using a factor of 10x known to unknown for Italy somewhat normalizes fatality rates across the countriesI assume when someone drops dead of corona style ailments the known cause of death being corona or not is pretty accurate in most countriesBTW Ohio claimed 100k had it when the known case count was 13 Its now 50 even with that number its 2000x lol|0 Yeah not holding my breath on itEdit but hopefully id be wrong hopefully its not even needed But well seeDouble edit Im in Canada|1 You know what its normal to feel like crap right now Thats the appropriate reaction You dont live in a fantasy world This is a bad situation and its pretty scary and lets not pretend otherwise The meds may still be fine but youre doing what a lot of other people arent doing Youre not denying this is real or pretending like life is totally normal or that it will be ANY day now just fine I would stay on your meds but contact your doctor or therapist a lot of them do phone appointments now or will be very soon New pandemic thing Dont worry too much about the stock market if you dont invest It always bounces up and down over time Its a sign we are headed into recession This is expected because the world is changing suddenly and this situation is unprecedented in modern times We were last in a recession in 2008 and it sucked but most of us made it out okay I take walks with my dog at least once a day or twice I keep my distance from strangers will cross streets if I have to I watch TV shows and movies to escape and talk to people on the phone or internet Think of the things that are going well for you It sounds like you were allowed to work from home and thats great Its nice to spend some time with your mom Think of other things that make you happy or grateful even today I had a great cup of tea this morning I have been watching a nice series on Netflix Im happy about and Im excited about an upcoming game Well get through this but it sucks Youre right to think it sucks and youre not crazy for being emotional about it This sucks Talk to people you love on the phonetext and commiserate a little Get in touch with your therapist or doctor though okay They may have advice that helps your specific needs with your mental health issues you faceIf you need help with your curriculum let me know my husband is a teacher|1 Heinsberg Contained weeks ago Worst case of them all in GermanyGood example|0 They waited days to announce the death of the first patient in WA so I know theyre probably going to do the same here|0 Went out for lunch today at a usually popping lunch spot 4 people in the place from 1215130 I gave the server an extra large tip she was stressing hard The economic impact will be drastic|0 Im in the UK I hope we are on lockdown by the end of the week|1 In addition over 50 individuals associated with Life Care Nursing home are reportedly ill with respiratory symptoms or hospitalized with pneumonia or other respiratory conditions of unknown cause and are being tested for COVID19 Seattle and King County officials said Additional positive cases are expected httpsapnewscomf175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7httpsapnewscomf175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7|1 Glad she canceled the trips|1 1 He kinds does if he says the same sorts of things over and over again2 Source Trump has said a gigantic number of times that he believes climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese to screw over American businesses He insults Greta Thunberg frequently on his twitter httpswwwgooglecomampswwwbbccomnewsampworlduscanada51213003httpswwwgooglecomampsthebulletinorg202002climatechangetrumpandrepublicanspivotfromdenialtooptimismamphttpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomusnews2019apr22trumpearthdaymessageclimatechangestrongmarketeconomyhttpswwwwriorgblogseriestrumpadministrationhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiEnvironmentalpolicyoftheDonaldTrumpadministrationDont forget about how he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement to nearuniversal disapprovalI mean saying he supports climate change is a plain old lie Thats factually incorrect That is not true plain and simple 3 So the main thing here that everyone is talking about is that Trump is ignoring the governments and CDCs own warnings about coronavirus and saying Oh its not a big deal Everythings fine It wont spread that much like they say it will He is doing this mostly because the stock market is tanking due to coronavirus fears and he wants investors to not be afraid of the virus so that the stock market doesnt go down However hes basically lying to the public and a day after he gave his press conference the first American died of coronavirus He then blamed the Democrats for blowing up concerns about coronavirus and making it seem a bigger deal than it actually is despite the fact that the CDC and WHO are all in agreement that Coronavirus is dangerousNot to mention Trump is proposing a 16 budget cut in the CDC and a 3 billion dollar cut to funding for the World Health Organization 53 cut and the Pan American Health Organization httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomworld2020mar01trumpcoronaviruscutsrobertreichhttpswwwgooglecomampsslatecomnewsandpolitics202002trumpcoronaviruscovid19responseexpertisecontemptamphttpswwwgooglecomampswwwvoxcomplatformamppolicyandpolitics202022921159054trumpcoronavirusstrategydemocratshoaxhttpswwwgooglecomampswwwvoxcomplatformamp202022821157689coronavirusstockcrashdowrecessionSo basically Trump is being a dangerous idiot as usual and doing everything literally the opposite of what we should be doing and he justifies it by blaming everything on Democrats and using conspiracy theories|0 And this is why our two party system that only cares about donators and money should be abandoned This is why our politics only benefits elites And the rest of us get pandered to with only the social and identity politicsWhy the Dems and the GOP both need to be rehauled And money politics and its sycophants and enablers need to be booted out|1 Between a tough and a hard place I have no advice but you have my respect and sympathy|1 Nice copy pasta|1 Stop all of it Be innovative Important events can still occur if we try to change the way they occur Can some informative events still be held in some form of online fashion Come on|1 The virus is man made and designed specifically to make those who are older and who cannot physically work more sick The virus spares children since they are the future work force This virus kills men more than women This virus affects the elderly This virus affects the disabled This virus spares childrenThink for a moment how many government dollars would be freed up if everyone who required special care suddenly died hmmmmm|0 There would probably be a lot of volunteers for such a deal Just make sure to read the fine print |1 Bolton fucked up|0 Hed extort a ton of plasma from China tariffed of course big beautiful money paid by Chinese pouring in American pocket|1 My state did this too I dont think a lot of people realize that most things in the USA operate on a state by state basis for most things I think 13 states have shut down schools ordered by the elected state governorMy governor and state officials keep stressing that they do not want to overwhelm the local healthcare system and workers as weve seen in Italy so even if we all get it if we can get it at varying times instead of all nearly at once that would be helpful We only have so many supplies workers respirators etc|1 One strange thing Ive noticed is that all my local stores are out of hand soap but the dish soap section and bar soap section is still full Like people dont realize you dont need special hand soap to wash your handsI was also surprised to find pretty much every disinfecting cleaning product is long gone but the supply of gallon jugs of bleach is just fine|1 yet here we are ass out|0 Where is the 10x higher mortality rate coming from People in other threads are telling me 40x but refuse to cite anything beyond the news My understanding is we dont have good numbers on how many are infected since we havent been testing widely so I dont see how you can make that claim yet|0 My thighs set off the scanner at being something in y pants and when they guy patted down my legs he said have you been doing squats I was really proud|1 If SK national are under surveillance for 14 days how are the Chinese people coming in not under surveillance Border control at special times is ok but racism is not ok at any time|0 it just costs a few milli to change the WHOs opinionSomeone should be a smartass and set up a GoFundMe page to raise money to bribe the WHO back to reality|0 Prices need to rise on these goods to control this Simple economics Prices rise demand levels off supply is increased due to revenue incentiveFunny how airlines and fuel prices work like this but when it is proposed for consumer staple goods people freak outNot raising prices and even instituting restrictions do nothing to solve the problem|0 Youre fucking crazy if you think the water lines will shut down People should have water stocked just in case but tap water isnt going anywhere People definitely need to invest in water filters though|1 Praying for you and your family|1 Well as an American Im aware that most of our population is comprised of fucking idiots This kind of shit doesnt surprise me|0 Currently in clincal for critical care either in SICUs or any other ICU My clincal is hands on so Ive done my abgs Ive done terminal weans been in plenty of traumas and codes Ive have over 250 hours of clincal time I think Id be more than competent to step on the floor and help out|1 Yeah very similar Even Madagascar is holding out like in the game|1 Fucking cheap ass communist pieces of shit Fuck the CCP Fuck Mao Ze dong Fuck Xi Jinping Fuck all yall|0 Yeah Those household staples are going to make up for a great deal of their other sales since so many people that would typically go to Walmart Target or the grocery store will be ordering them from Amazon instead so they dont have to leave the home Its entirely possible Amazon could do better over the coming months than usual|1 Crap and how many of those people got infected Are we TRYING to start a Pandemic here|0 SK and Singapore are doing a good job Not sure about the other 78|1 Have you heard about our Lord and savior Functional Programming No mutabilities and no sideeffects make parallel programming way more easier|0 Thank you We will be there until its time to expire Thank you for your support Stay Sfae |1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 My dad thinks its a hoax but still taking the precautions and warning my grandparents to do the same|0 im from australia im jealous they havent shut schools or initiated a lockdown yet which is absurd|0 That is so wrong that Im convinced Agent Orange fed him that line directly|0 Not for those people Young people dying would be even more effective then they cant produce but that doesnt make it a good thing|0 Regardless the death rate is 02 Its young enough to make the newsIm not sure why youre so set on this being a bigger deal than it actually is So Im not worried Sorry that you are|0 I live in the US and all public schools closed and all colleges moved to online instruction All events larger than 500 people are banned and if private businesses dont close our governor said he will lower the event count max to 100 So Id say we are taking It pretty seriously|0 No need Its just the flu|0 Nothing to worry about she was diagnosed yesterday and is over the worst of it today s|0 This thing certainly has been|1 Opensource intelligence ftw |1 I mean dont other parts of Europe do the same thing Italy has been a lot worse than other European countries|0 A lot of international schools are doing online lessons The teachers are creating the work online so still working|1 Agree Nah US government doesnt need it especially this administration|1 Fuck this year|0 It was a good decision on the part of Utah This is a group of people who have shared a locker room and have been very close to someone who tested positive Beyond that this group of people is in contact with others much more than the ordinary person Theyre at a high risk of both being infected and infecting others|1 Jesus you said it south Florida is a massive hub for cruise lines especially if you live in Miami or Fort Lauderdale me Its fitting the biggest threat to public health is also our biggest economic boon Tourism|0 Im no doctor but Im sure a weakened immune system also relates to a lot of stress poor sleep poor diet not drinking enough water etc One thing for sure is that stress weakens the immune system|0 Wow thats crazy I assumed it would take something much more substantial Im very little more than a casual hobbyist though I buy prebuilt machines from best buy |1 I sincerely hope you are correct and I am wrong|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Also the Kurisawa movie IkiruIt pretty much still works like that here|1 His post isnt about an epidemic Its about a total meltdown and losing hope|1 It says at the top that it was not peerreviewed so no Not credible|0 Really Im glad to hear that we arent the only international destination with a Disney park that wont allow its citizens to get tested|1 How does everyone feel about putting bounties on the heads of people who do this shit Offer more money for live capture and less for a dead captureto incentivize their safe capture Let the free market take care of this problem|0 Floridian here unfortunately Hurricane parties in a cat 3 are a right of passage Jim Cantore got nuthin on usEdit nvmd see whats prob the top comment|1 Its shitty that one of my first thoughts was good now my family will stop thinking Im fucking nuts Living in a culture where its taboo to take care of yourself|0 No you cannot go out now You can order groceries delivered Continue isolation until a full 14 days after all symptoms are completely gone|0 Backpacking on multiday trips in the Rockies Day hikes its not a needed because Im pretty close to civilization but once I get a few days from the nearest person its a nice sense of peace of mind Ive only drawn it a few times and never used it but its nice to know its there in case I do need it|1 Holy wowto the last sentence|1 Great idea Im so bored|1 Americans will shoot a mofo who tries to weld them into their home|0 Mortality will jump up super high when it cripples nations like India Sudan Nigeria South Africa Brazil etc|1 Reddit is hiding both of those subReddits When I searched for them I got Trending on Reddit Max Von Sydow|0 Funny as in peculiar that when the coronavirus thing started they said Ha Flu kills thousands of people every year in the USA Pffft Even reporters and analysts were giggling on TV news calling anything about the coronavirus alarmistI cant understand the logic then to say that only 20 will get a serious disease Hospitals are full all the time emergency room waiting time counted in hours 20 seriously ill will overwhelm ANY health system in the worldAnd with a 34 mortality approx we can expect the COVID19 pandemic to be 1918 Spanish flu on steroids mortality 2 which killed 50100 million people on earthAnd its false to assume that just because youre not old you wont die And if you care about the economy only then think that most of the infected are younger than 65 That paralyzes the countries economies for weeks with longer lasting repercussions even if they dont diehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicshttpswwwpopscicomstoryhealthcovid19coronavirusdeathratebyagehttpswwwpopscicomstoryhealthcovid19coronavirusdeathratebyageAll I have is my parents and theyre in their late 70s And theyre still productive financially and independent Even those in their 70s and above that are not financially productive contribute to society with their presence and intergenerational knowledge The day we value people only by their economic productivity humanity will have found new lows to live by and we will have become less human than robots|0 I understand Its not easy for any leader in our times to deal with this Seeing it from the other extreme Imagine if he did to us what China did to Wuhan There wouldve rebellion mayhem riots etc I see mistakes and good decisions made Many people are openly refusing to follow CDC guidelines and are just now starting to change Its not easy to change things drastically over night without inviting great fear and extreme panic If our economy collapses or gets close to it and we dont quickly recover we are vulnerable to attacks of all sorts by Russia China and the Middle East who would love to take us down This isnt a simple thing to deal with|0 hospitalsGood point but you should have said detention centers that leak and are falling apart |0 True Better than zero I guess|1 What For Easter people want chocolate bunnies and there are thousand of chocolate bunnies in retail shop|1 How weird is the feeling that theres this virus that started in the middle of China a few months ago and weve been able to track it all the way to our very doorstep Cant believe it|0 Not just honest preparation to calm fears but to save lives as well|1 Plus theres a fairly extensive recent metaanalysis showing zinc is one of the only remedies for viral illness that may be effective|1 The shitty gamer mercy is probably whats keeping them alive If they stock only video games nobody would go to the store But high volume goods that gamers read children and families love to buy can be very profitable|1 You mean panic|0 Have you considered wearing a half face respirator Theyre good for potentially hundreds of hours before you change the filters Yeah there visually a bit disturbing maybe but safety first|1 When i quite smoking in my mid 20s i took advantage of the physical pain i was causing myselfit wasnt the smartest idea but i took pot and when the craving was to much id just burn my lungs with non nicotine substancesi allowed a 5 pm smoke every day for a 36 months until one day i didnt need itgoodluck young life liver|0 Thank god|1 Thanks for breaking it down Now if that last part will happen One can only wonder|1 They seem to also allow background use so you can still use your computer if you want Their website has an FAQ Goodluck|1 Yeah the conference was downtown Toronto and the person went back to Sudbury and is now confirmed positive Ive been waiting to see if Toronto Comiccon would be canceled but no word as of yet It definitely needs to be canceled as it seems pretty socially irresponsible to let it go forward IMO|1 No its not but obviously there is something wrong with the wet markets in Wuhan if two zoonotic viruses have come out of essentially the same place|0 Not gonna lie my daughters school contacted the CDC about some students and teachers going to Italy They NEVER came to school They self quarantined and are showing no symptoms So just be safe Wash your hands and ask your kids to use hand sanitizer if you have it because people are stupid and hoarding it|1 So for mortgages in Canada you cant just pay back the money you owe anytime you want Your contracts have penalties for early repayment|1 Yeah except we dont seem to be seeing it acting as just a cold anywhere except Germany Everything points towards a majority developing mild to moderate symptoms with around 20 showing pneumonia And a predominance for increasing severity where it can find the slightest gap in the immune system We need a better picture of this thing across multiple cases still It could well be just a cold or it could be they got lucky and for whatever reason didnt develop a more severe case And frankly were going to feel the fallout of this regardless and if money matters more than saving lives maybe we do deserve whatever happens for that mentality|1 Im not sure what you are trying to say There is no vaccine so the only immunization will come from people who get the illness and fight it off Most epidemiologists seem very skeptical that this can be contained at this point though I did find one here who made a good case httpspromedmailorgpromedpostid6918012At any rate I was merely correcting the poster who claimed the worst case scenario was pretty mild Its not|0 sToP TryInG tO tAlK Us oUt Of iT|0 We have to handle this shit well We are not that many and a virus like this could easily eat us alive|1 That just happened in australia tested positive told to self quarantine and instead went out to a crowded club|1 WaitI feel like an idiotwhy charge my phone|1 I agree l The headline and the story dont match at all|1 Yup Its been floating through the population 80 of the cases are very mild The rest can be quite severe including death It has to find a weakness and then get nasty Please stay safe I think they know that we are past containment and its going to run its course So why not keep them oblivious to the truth because that is unpleasant|0 They are going to kill a lot of young people too They do get in intensive care due to COVID fatality rate is low only because they survive it unlike older people with comorbiditiesI tried to do some math here httpstwittercomfagiolinuxstatus1239516192165036033|0 wapos visualization simulation is really good clearly shows how effective social distancing can be vs forced quarantineshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulator|1 You can use imgur to upload the pictures and link them here So you mean to say the medication is stop severing the symptoms but what about the people that are already infected Will they be saved|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I didnt find on the site the source for the numbers Can someone tell me where I missed it Their numbers differ significantly from worldometercom|0 Very likely imagine youre an airline and someone gives you money to stay afloat What do you spend it on given that you know noone can use your airline for months You certainly dont spend it on staff if youre a well behaved capitalist|1 SARS was certainly airborne if someone farted or had diarrhia Its unlike this virus is not also transmitted through this route Hong Kong had one case were they thought that the current virus passed through the plumbing system from one floor to another|1 Reason I ask is because some states are testing if you test negative for the flu but have flu symptoms|0 San diegan here too Scary shit goin down|0 Bold move cotton lets hope it pans out|1 Can you provide us with a brief overview of how National Geographic prepares COVID19 related content special features etc What sort of process do you go through when consulting experts in certain specific disciplines such as virology Do you guys have a few established contacts that you regularly consult or do you just attempt to find the most wellestablished name in the field What if different experts disagree or give you conflicting statements assuming they are all valid and seemingly unbiased views|0 The one person who shouts it from the rooftop just happens to be the leader of our country It would make sense that he has a disproportionate amount of influencepower You would be a bad leader if you didnt hype your people up|0 Excellent recap|1 Red Cross came in and accidentally contaminated all the waterPlease share a link to any report on this incident|0 Because its the ugly truth no one likes that|0 Are you expecting government to save you If so then you are in for a great awakening|1 Maybe in order to keep from spreading it to others like their family and friends|1 Wait the US has 10000 total Thered better be a rebellion brewing|1 They should have done something else with all those people A fema camp of sorts with separation zones and fresh air They basically left them all in a Petri dish to catch the virus|1 okay listen here u lil shit|0 Thank you I hope my friends can avoid this if the trip falls outside the ban but whatever needs to be done to keep people safe|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 What does anti vaxxers have to do with the post or my comments|0 On a more morbid note this may give my boss a chance for a promotion if the current heads that refuse to retire get it|0 We still have 6 of snow on the ground in AlbertaI can see it now honey bunny I gotta go to the bathroom Im going outside to make a few snowball plowsInnovation in disruptive times TBH I havent tried this theory 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furnish sweep throughs whats left over of Ground in a heavy landslip successThis is a bot I try my best but my best is 80 mediocrity 20 hilarity Created by OrionSuperman Check out my best work at rThesaurizeThis|1 LOL 13000 thats one day test in SK oh wow Taiwan is best|1 GameStop being a sick to its employees Im shocked|0 New York recieved approval to do their own testing on Feb 29thhttpswwwnydailynewscomnewspoliticsnycoronavirustestcuomopence20200229o7qjwppopbbx3bgarkzpo3z3bmstoryhtmlThe state won permission to do testing on suspected cases at a lab near Albany and another one in the city officials said The upstate lab will begin testing immediately and the city one within a matter of days|1 May the odds be ever in your favour|1 Theres a lot of shit jobs out there thats true Ive had enough of them not to be a sheep and to spot it when I see it If your wife likes her work environment thats great for me Amazon jobs are unbearableAnyway my post was supposed to point out that the only reason Amazon is raising their per hour is that they see a financial benefit from this incentive in the future not that theyre caring about the employeesEDIT I am self employed contract worker as I couldnt deal with generic corporate jobs|1 I bought flour Also bought sugar and oil Ingredients tend to keep longer than baked goods and if I dont use them I can bake cookies next holiday or if this ends up being a 6 month ordeal they will still keep Also I can make many different things from flour such as bread pizza tortillas or pasta If I am cooped up I should have more time to actually make things from scratch so why not do so|1 I think they are getting food now and hunkering down before it gets way worse with many many more cases|0 What they go for the west can be done again elsewhere even if it costs a bit moreThats where youre wrong It costs much much more in the west Its only a bit more or even cheaper sometimes if you shift production to Vietnam or Thailand China is a world manufacturing hub meaning a large chunk of the supply chain is there pushing down on logistics costAlso China is a developing country Dont be fooled by Shenzhen and Shanghai There are a lot of poor people there|0 Almost like some sort of conditioning|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Yep Hes a bit of a shithead but made the right call this time|0 I think people are missing a few things hereFor starters nobody ever said only the elderly will die of COVID while death rates are significantly lower in age groups below 80 They arent nonexistent Even if the CFR for people younger than 80 is like 06 or whatever theyre saying now That means young people will still die And because those deaths tend to be scarier and a bigger deal theyre disproportionately reported upon They are also disproportionately noticedremembered by the general publicThink about it imagine two news updates The first one says 100 people died of COVID today in XYZ country mostly between the ages of 6080 Now imagine a news update saying 1 person aged 32 died of COVID today Which of those updates do you think the general public will latch on to|0 I havent prepped and Im not sure if I am going toI have some food to probably last a couple of weeks maybe 3 alreadyI think its a bit drastic unless there will be a quarantine but I think it must be around a couple hundered cases before you can even anticipate a quarantine so Ill prob panic buy thenBut honestly guys am I wrong for not prepping yet|0 Hes 78 thats more like 14 since I think 80 is around 16|1 In Madrid its also like this but in the rest of Spain its just recommended|1 Its just a hand gesture that is comforting to make as us humans have 5 fingers on each hand and can interconnect them in a pleasing way If you take away what it represents in a religious cults or even fullblown religions its just something to do to calm yourself down in a stressful situation Especially now that the hand contact with others is not something you want to do often or even at all|1 My bad def meant to say her Fixed thanks|0 He also encouraged areas across China to lower restrictions on car purchases I doubt that more cars is exactly what world needs|0 Are they selling 2 bottles for more than 10 over what 2 bottles used to be Yes Then it would be illegal under our simplistic knee jerk reactionI like this model|0 People must be incredibly bored|0 Ppl arent going to have to work The govt is going to provide for businesses and to cover EI and suchIf we get to that point of complete quarantine then only heath care workers will need child care etc|1 I find that hard to believe|0 Explain to me the difference between survivors being better off and the Black Plague being a good thing I do not see the distinction and therefore do not see how I construct a straw man From my perspective a good thing means that the causes isare worth the effects In this case that means the Black Plague causing loss of life causing prosperity making the survivors better off which this line of causation is probably debatable in and of itself but thats the assumption of those Ive been debating So if the Black Plague is not a good thing then the loss of life was NOT worth the survivors gaining whatever benefit they do and therefore they cannot possibly be better off as they must have lost something that wasnt worth what they gained a net negative If you have a definition of a good thing that allows yours and others in this threads argument that the Black Plague was both not a good thing and the survivors were better off to work then Im all ears|1 I think they didnt they just rename the countries all the time This httpscovid19rambintcomhttpscovid19rambintcom shows that from them and diffs per day I think italy just missed a day of reporting|0 Its not just in china anymore since they infected everyone from every culture now|0 Lol I keep looking about that to her His food is expensive because hes a big dog so Ive been pointing at his thick ass leg and telling her it will make a great stew All a joke of course|1 Yeah people are gonna die our medical systems will collapse and itll be a chaotic time for months But most people will be totally fine You panicking doesnt change that Its like youre against any bit of positivity|0 Same Friends and family think Im a doomsday prepper or something Like nah just watching the progression is very interesting|1 Hated the young driver fee for so long and I just turned 25 and this happens|0 The US is fucked by the end of this week|0 Thank you|1 If it was airborne it would have an r0 of 1520 like measles|1 Ive been thanking every grocery store worker I come across Thank you for your hard work and patience|1 Meanwhile Swedens limit is 500 No wonder Swedens corona cases are increasing by like 100 a day|1 It has a very special set of skills|1 This may be a very dumb question but would a CPAP help someone at home with a bad case of respiratory symptoms|0 Trumps kinda a hard one to interpret so take anything he says in rallies or even some interviews with a grain of salt lmao|1 Yep my guess is WA|1 Based on some news I heard from a friend in ontarioIts 100 community spread right now|1 Everybody and their uncle illigally listed to the BBC Besides rumours spreaded around pretty easily|1 We have the RobertKochInstitute RKIIts a federal government agency and research institute responsible for disease controle and preventionHere is the english version of the website if you are interestedhttpswwwrkideENHomehomepagenodehtmlYea we have news channels like that too Its called BILDhttpsyoutube23eLEJrzVEThis is an example of newsThe video name says a caregiver23 yo is infected CoronaPanic in the ClemensAugust elementary school in BonnIn the video they just say he had symptoms of an slight cold They tested him between friday and saturday but never say if the test is positive or negativeSo if you are paranoid you just accept that the test is positive but they hide information to just give a headline have some clicks on youtube and make people panic To be honest I never heard something new about this case about the caregiver Living for the weekend it sounds so sad But still a funny phrase D|1 Did you happen to attend the BioGen meeting as well|1 Reagan had one crazy ass beard|0 I like that We need some catchy nickname thats unique to this bastard and that wont trigger anybody The Corone does it It isnt just any Coronavirus Its The Corone|0 Is it that we grew up during the cold war We were bombarded about how the world was going to explode at any moment Nightly TV news was filled with discussions about how the Russians were going to react to whatever we had to say or do I even had bomb drills where we hid in the hallway with our head in our knees I was taught at an early age that the world can end and I was powerless to stop it Go gen x|0 Not really 1 is 3 million people give or take If only one infectious person arrived here on January 15 as the mutation analysis seems to suggest and the doubling time is 25 days as it appears to be there would be 21 million cases in the us right now If five people 10 million cases If five people only a week later1 million cases But its not extremely unlikely If anything the evidence suggests those numbers are quite likelyWhats strange is not seeing the ICUs overwhelmed if those are the right numbers But each time I have said I just cant reconcile the math with what I see happening the math has always won so far|1 Real hospitals dont have prison bars on the windows mate Lets not congratulate anybody for building death camps in record time|0 I would be ok with that at least the elderly food banks and desperate people would be fed and wouldnt have the stress of going to the shop with the chance of there being nothing there|1 I went to the gas station last night and the cashier had an apron a face mask and gloves on with two bottles of sanitizer at her registerI didnt panic I thought it was fucking smart|1 i am 21 yeah I told him about the well beings of loved ones He tought like naaah wont happen or something He is unfortunately like many others who put their head into the sand and only start to think when it affects them directly|1 My mom developed a dry hacking cough and sudden spiked fever about a month ago Still has a cough She works in a medical building adjacent to the only local emergency roomhospital the only one within 3 hours any direction Shared elevators stairwells parking lots common dining areas People here are simultaneously panic buying like its the apocalypse and saying oh its just a bad flu season|0 i guarantee you that this guy posts on pol or some more obscurelocal equivalent of it and cant wait to get home and tell all his virtual friends about how hes being an accelerationist and how he did his part to bring down the ZOG today or something along those linesjust another garden variety zoomer who couldnt handle the internet and overdosed on memes smartphones and cheap broadband was a mistake|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Thank you for never ringing my doorbellNot sarcastic I hate that thing|0 It will be much more worst if they didnt do that draconian quarantine|0 I live in South Dakota and so far we dont have cases either But I expect it to be here very soon So even though it isnt yet I have been checking my stores of non perishable food keeping my home and vehicle clean and washing my hands The best defense is a good offense|1 Im going to die from hunger and with a crusty assWell you could use the shower so at least when you die hungry you wont be stinking|0 The aggregator is too effective|1 We can look at the situation in Italy however and conclude that things are bad if we treat it like no big deal China didnt build temporary hospitals for fun and bad publicityWhen people post things like you do they usually say it to downplay the virus and say that any countermeasure is too much|1 Almost all tabloid UK news outlets are saying although it refuses to say where they are from theyre being treated at a hospital in Newcastle Wont fully believe it until I see from a more reputable source but it looks likely Would just like to point out before people from the north east start panicking that this is likely because the RVI has an amazing tropicalinfectious disease ward My Aunty was there when she caught a tropical disease in Asia and its one of the best in the country so assuming thats why theyre in Newcastle not necessarily because they are from thereEdit to add lots of others are speculating whether its in North Yorkshire too so honestly who knowsEdit edit The Guardian have confirmed Newcastle|1 Oof Kinda wish I hadnt read this one|1 The means of production is simply how society produces the things it needs to survive and run This includes the production of food power water consumer goods etc Who do you currently pay for these things Probably corporations right If theyre public these corporations are owned by their shareholders if theyre private they simply have private ownership For example when you go to the store and buy a potato the corporations who owned the farmland farmed the crop paid the laborers shipped the potatoes and marketed them all receive some of the price you paid for the potato They sell you the potato at a cost which is somewhat higher than the cost to bring you the potato the difference of which is pocketed as profit by the corporations in order to return value to their shareholders or make money for their ownersIn this example if the means of production were controlled by you and I the workers instead of corporations or shareholders we would collectively own the land the potato was grown on and we would collectively own the farming enterprise shipping company and grocery store The potato could still be sold for a little more than it cost to produce generating some profit or it could be sold for the cost of producing the potato if we dont need to generate any profit Currently in the United States the means of production is controlled by capitalists banks corporations and combinations of all three working together to extract profits from their enterprises Most industries are only controlled by a small amount of companies a natural consequence of the tendency of markets to reduce competitors either through mergers buyouts competition leading to bankruptcies etc These companies are ultimately controlled by very wealthy capitalists and banks not you and I They act in the financial interest of the capitalists and banks not in the interest of you and I If you and I controlled the means of production we would make choices that are best for us not simply best for shareholders or banks I hope that answers your question I tried to keep it simple The topic can be pretty complicated to discuss and Im on my phone|1 Ill start drinking pints of beer just in case|0 Yes unemployment insurance payment from the government assuming they were employee and not independent contractor|0 ThisTesting those that can easily be diagnosed with a chest scanxray is a waste of limited test kits Folks in the ICU with bilateral interstitial pneumonia should be clinically diagnosed and not tested Save the testing for their contacts who still might be asymptomatic and not yet in quarantine|0 I went for my weekly shop at Harrods and those bastards were out of bog roll too|0 Most animals are pretty tough Its not ideal for them to be drinking water that old but I doubt itll do them any serious harm|0 The man with a plan Ny gov Cuomo is amazing He did his research came up with a plan and acted upon it If only our president could learn from him|1 I understand concerns the only way to cut down is appoint lots of mods then its hard to keep track of whos doing what with out implementing bots to ban due to words etc I think Im going to leave it fairly open to what people have to post And try to keep it on track as possible with more mods introduced slowly Its on my todo|0 Nah we can see the difference light and day when you look at where countries like Slovakia are vs the USA|1 Considering the nurses are leaving because they most likely lack the equipment to protect themselves its no wonder the courageous people are dying to lack of protective equipmentI know that at least in France our medical facilities are not given due protection for these cases and have the rely on the basics washing very often hydroalcohol gel chirurgical masks etcIts an epidemic about to turn pandemic yet the protection is no better than the one for a small flu|0 I research this because I enjoy it It is one of the greatest science experiments in human history and we are alive to see it It is like shaking an ant farm in a way Lets see how the ants deal with this one Unfortunately Im one of the ants but Im not going to let that keep me from watching the big picture|1 Drugresistant enterobacteria ugh stuff like multidrug resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae drugresistant Cdiff and Cdiff doesnt get killed with the quat wipes the lemony fresh bullshit You need chlorine or peracetic acid wipes to kill that and the listed contact time the amount of time the surface needs to be wet with disinfectant is impractically longThere are a few strains of Kleb pneumo that are resistant to everything we have Bad juju|0 Yes leave the professional masks for the professionalsPattern forhomemade facemasksShaped around nosehttpswwwcraftpassioncomfacemasksewingpattern|1 Yeah Im trying to find a source saying the patient in Eureka had known sick contacts|0 Thank you|1 Sooo there is actually almost no way to avoid it You cant expect everybody to stay inside for four months or more|0 What if the plan IS to kill off the grandparents Mind Blown|0 So far it has been pretty consistent that about 20 become severe and I think that means pneumonia|1 Congrats on lowering the numbers but how can you resume daily life if it can easily flare up again|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Even google does that shit I searched civil war on google to get the definition but it immediately gave me the American civil war while Im in the other fucking side of the planet|0 Fuck off there was no fans in attendance|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Challage accepted|1 If China had not implemented the Nationwide quarantine we would have hit 1 millionIf US keeps its current slow pace soon we will achieve this goal that China failed|0 Soon other countrys are going to ban people from the USA because we cant get our shit together|0 I have no idea wtf this guys deal is but he is in tons of subs posting this same shit over and over|0 Yeah they see themselves as superior to us|1 You think hes creepy Have you met the lying pussygrabbing orange clown|0 Thailand is making cloth masks as well Id like to see how those work out|1 BMI is better as a population statistic than an individual indicator If he is active and muscular rather than overfat he probably doesnt have the same risk profile|1 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well it happened during CNY Worst time of year for this shit to go down nahmsayin|0 Trump has actually talked about national health care However even if he had a good plan the Democrats wouldnt help him pass it just to spite him Bernies plan of medicare for all is a nonstarter I work for one of the largest unions in the US and have a great healthcare plan and our entire union will oppose any medicare for all plan because most of those proposals require us to lose our amazing healthcare plan Fuck that That would be like forcing people to stop using UPSFedex and making everyone use the post office for everything No fucking way|1 Same here Trust me youre not crazy I wish we wereIm also from MI and nobody so far has taken the virus seriously Ive been following the situation diligently since the beginning of January and its been so isolating and mentally taxing Ive become a hardcore introvert over the past few years so I only see my boyfriend whom I see for about half of the week The tldr is that he hasnt taken the virus seriously and flat out told me that hed likely be the sole reason why I would get infected Since I work from home and have already prepped I have no reason to leave my house and am now facing the hard decision whether to stop hanging out with him and potentially face a breakup as a result of it On top of that my mom around 60 yo works as a lowincome waitress has COPD and doesnt have health care Shes literally my only family and if she were to contract something like this I just know that she wouldnt make it I feel like Im losing my mind I took about a 3 day break from the internet which Id like to think helped me but honestly at best I just feel numbI really hope things ease up for us and all those struggling directly or indirectly This sucks Hard Theres just no eloquent way to put it|1 TLDR The dude got the symptoms after the concert He and his friends are in a fourteen day quarantine All health personell attending the concert and a bar the guy and his friends went to are placed in a fourteen day quarantine If anyone feel symptoms the next days contact your doctors office by phone and inform them If no symptoms are felt continue on with your day to day life|1 we should absolutely prevent anyone not confirmed by a test to not have a virus from returning ALL countries should ban flights from China|0 South Korea has done great hopefully Italy can start to get some more recoveries And hopefully the US starts actually testing and reporting their actual amount of cases|1 Well the problem is Venezuelathey are migratingand will carry that stuff far and wide|0 When did they actually try that with British peopleJust pay people to stay home|0 I think youre one of the few browse by new and its a while different story I agree with you Ive cancelled my travel and even if I did travel Id wear the mask but I dont think were all going to die next week|0 FeverEither way you might want to get that checked out|1 Wow youre a shitty person|1 Oh right you are talking about the commies right Ive heard they eat children and that is very bad how can you eat children that is gross bad commies Well let me know when you wake up in this century and we can continue our conversation Over and out|0 No sht Can some one explain this to Trump|0 It is now something like a 3rd of basic medical costs after all |1 Practice good hygiene in the least to be safe If your place of business stays open its possible you make it through healthy If thats the case think about all the people who rely on people like you so they can bring groceries home in times like these|1 And We did not wrong them thereby but they were wronging themselves 16118|1 Propaganda to what end|0 There needs to be something like this for pregnant women It seems pregnant women are being forgotten about during this crisis Womens immune systems are on the same level as elderly during pregnancy|0 it will be legally enforced yes give it a day or two those businesses will assimilate resistance is futile|1 better under him than bernie sanders fyi|1 I hated HRC too but she would have been fully prepared and surrounded herself with the right people for this crisis|0 So we have a SRQ Florida covid reddit page Seems like a lot of us in this area maybe we need one|1 After he got on his knees to be part of his cabinet lmao|1 Yeah thats my concern too that its already out here and spreading but because were only testing those with known travel or close relatives we just dont know I think the first were going to actually hear is when hospitals start becoming overwhelmed because thats going to be hard to hide|0 I always get it mixed up Is manga the creepy pedo cartons or it hentai the creepy alien rape cartoons Which is which|0 You can catch it again Its likely not a oneanddone kind of situation Youre better off waiting to get it until drugs are available to treat severe cases|1 China had their peak also there were days they were close to 3000 per day And than they had their turning pointThe turning point was effectively house arrest for 50 million people|1 The issue is not the current response its appropriateThe issue is that this whole debacle was caused by their totalitarian system in the first place Had there been transparency in place of attempts at coverup wed avoid the pandemic in the first place and none of those measures would be necessary|0 Should be 2014 actually because on 2015 govt launched the toilet building campaign|1 Seems like they are using it mostly as an antiinflammatory instead of antiviral Maybe they need to start the treatment earlier just like ChineseIn the original article Chinese were using Chloroquine on patients with mild symptoms in order for them to never develop anything serious That was successful so I think this would definitely help in keeping the hospital load under control|1 I think stop is the wrong word Its more like slow the Coronavirus|0 Oh I absolutely agree But they are slaves to their institutional structures as well Governors are so reliant on Washington for free money they dont want to take the risk of losing favor with the money printers And Washington is just Washington Just a mess of bloated mess of inefficiency detached from the people and operating on its own agenda All these people are cut from the same cloth Local school administrators blindly following the inept leaders at the state and federal level does not say much for them it just confirms their weakness|0 They closed like 3 out of like 20 border crossings more threatened to strike closed half of the border crossing people start bombing border crossings and now theres 3 border crossings left openPeople will probably bomb the CEs residence next to get the last 3 border crossings closed|0 Whats remarkable is that this doesnt even need to be about compassion only practical realityIts a logical assumption that if people do not have enough water food money etc they are less likely to obey quarantine orders Making it safe and easy to stay at home is a practical even costeffective way of limiting and treating the disease As is early thorough testing And yet we all know many governments wont get the message until it is too lateI highly recommend anyone still on the fence here read all about the Spanish Flu and how the USs primary concern being to squash public fear nearly wiped our nation out entirely and caused untold needless deaths Its tragic that we dont learn from past mistakes|1 Jokes on you boomers s|1 There were more critical cases of SARS|0 well now that weve seen how our own countries have responded|1 Ill leave it to the moderators to change it if they feel like us |0 Dude we are all worried as well Good luck|1 PHE claims to have been one of the first to have developed a test My understanding is that any hospital lab should have the necessary kit I think the timeconsuming part is validating it against control samples which is why Im surprised they didnt use the two months prep time to get this all together|1 Giving time for smart people to do their thing and come up with either a medicine or a vaccine or both|1 Canadian here Still scared even though I have faith in medical management we have dealt with SARS and thats the only thing keeping me from panicking|0 I feel like a bunch of heads should roll for the complete incompetence from literally EVERY branch of the US government at this point Why can S Korea test 40 thousand people and we cant even get the tests out there to the front line and have to look to Japan for tests Ours might be ready by Mid March Funny how they come out now and say prepare for the pandemic in the next 30 days and that coincides when the tests should be ready The numbers will start rolling in then|1 Lmao you believe China numbers hello CCP shill|1 Thank you|1 Good for your allergies too not so much for the flowers|1 Fuck my family lives in DaytonaOrmond I just talked to my grandmother a few days ago who lives down there She was incensed that they didnt cancel bike week and jumped all over her son for hanging out in town with bike groups from all over|0 Person dies Who is to blame Their illness|0 The states will have to lead this effort individually In my super cynical opinion there is no way the white house will get on board with mass tests like this They will continue to drag their feet until summer comes and the spread naturally slows then we will exclaim WE GOT IT MISSION ACCOMPLISHED Meanwhile most of the people infected will never be tested to begin with and the virus will stay active in communities until the next phase of spread begins next fall|1 Well on the other hand its just like ripping off a bandaid sometimes it just best to get it over with lol jk|1 Who cares about money support Shut down the border to all travel stop mail delivery and stop garbage pickup or anything that increases risk of getting sick However is responsible for lettin people come in to Canada infecting people should be charged with murder|0 Whelp Toronto is fucked |0 Assuming heat affects this virus in the same way it does with flu Thats not a given at this point People are hoping for a summer reprieve but theres no guarantee It seems to be picking up quite well in hot places at the moment Australia Brazil and other South American countries African countries admittedly are quite light on cases at the moment but I fully expect thats more down to low population density and poorer medical facilities performing less testing|0 I cant help with the projekt but i will upvote and share Goodl Luck |1 This role is likely filled already but I can 3D model quite well and to very exacting dimensions Lmk if you need help modeljng the part for printing|1 There is no REAL proof as you put it just as there is no REAL proof it was due to climate or whatever else Theres theories no point in arguing on the internet which is correct Most of what I know is from books which are at home so I cannot really access that at the moment However since you cited Wikipedia see belowIn The Biggest Estate on Earth How Aborigines made Australia Bill GammagehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBillGammage claims that dense forest became more open sclerophyllhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSclerophyll forest open forest became grassland and firetolerant species became more predominant in particular eucalyptushttpsenwikipediaorgwikiEucalyptus acaciahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAcacia banksiahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBanksia casuarinahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCasuarina and grasses28httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPrehistoryofAustraliacitenote28The changes to the fauna were even more dramatic the megafaunahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMegafauna species significantly larger than humans disappeared and many of the smaller species disappeared too All told about 60 different vertebrates became extinct including the DiprotodonhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiDiprotodon family very large marsupial herbivores that looked rather like hippos several large flightless birds carnivorous kangaroos Wonambi naracoortensishttpsenwikipediaorgwikiWonambinaracoortensis a 5metre snake a fivemetre lizard and MeiolaniahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMeiolania a tortoise the size of a small car29httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPrehistoryofAustraliacitenote29The direct cause of the mass extinctions is uncertain it may have been fire hunting climate change or a combination of all or any of these factors The degree of human agency in these extinctions is still a matter of discussion30httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPrehistoryofAustraliacitenote3031httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPrehistoryofAustraliacitenote31 With no large herbivores to keep the understorey vegetation down and rapidly recycle soil nutrients with their dung fuel buildup became more rapid and fires burned hotter further changing the landscape Against this theory is the evidence that in fact careful seasonal fires from Aboriginal land management practices reduced fuel loads and prevent wildfires like those seen since European settlement32httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPrehistoryofAustraliacitenote32|0 Edit Im wrong Ignore everything I said|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 As long as we have people who are all about the money we will have mass destruction of everything on our planet|0 hey were raised believing the Chinese leader is GodHeyare you sure We are speaking about Chinanot North KoreaChinese cops are probably just copsJust like FBIDEABATF and other federals in USA Obeying central government orders without care about the locals|1 The thing most people dont get this virus is not only affecting the elderly it can get really serious for children and teens as well A 16 year old boy lies in the hospital in the Netherlands doctors give him a 5050 chance on survival and he didnt have previous illnesses that could have caused this It was a perfectly healthy boy until this virus hit him down I hope he will make it and feel for his family which werent taken seriously until it nearly was too late The Netherlands should take way more action they are the only country lacking on taking serious action together with Sweden|1 Sounds like a waste money which can be used towards the wall s|0 Yah the reason plague was so bad in Europe was no one understood the transmission vectors at the time With modern pest control methods its nowhere near the threat it was|0 Upvoted for the phrase stirfried bullshit I need a laugh reading this sub or else Ill start crying|0 Im a little confused by all the Google bashing here Just because something might benefit everyone involved doesnt make it a bad thing Sure Google is getting some positive PR but so what They are doing a good thing As far as the privacy concerns go how many people would pay for search Or mail Or maps Or play store access I mean come on people You cant have your cake and eat it tooAnnnnnd cue the flames|1 The UK and the US appear to be stockpiling it or preventing export but no clear word as to why yetCurious whats your source for this Im somewhat optimistic knowing US doctors may prescribe this as frontline treatment Also does anyone know if the US produces CP or HC Is so do we need to source anything from China to produce it|1 You may be right Clearly government is run by people and clearly people dont always make the best decisions I think our government was motivated by greed and it was exacerbated by stupidity|1 I was beginning to think Netflix is immune This is comforting The rest of the world is suffering and yet Netflix continues its greed This is good news|1 I suspect most folks dont realize that alcohol and alcohol wipes are important medical items for some people|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Its very infuriating I just want good information not speculation and BSSuch is life|0 I think I read a post from you recently about your roommates putting you at risk You mentioned that you have friends who are paying attention and they had roommates putting them at risk At the time I thought you should shuffle a few people around so you can live with likeminded people who understand the importance of proactive measuresDuring an unprecedented in our lifetime global epidemic it comes down to simple decisions Would you rather not be inconvenienced by moving or would you rather be in a home where safety measures and quarantine are taken seriously Youre not stuck where you are Be proactive Your roommates are idiots Dont share your supplies with them Theyre putting you at risk|1 Surely the O must be correct since its bigO notation Not that his formula seem correct since the number of people infected shouldnt change the infectiousness of the people infected Which seems to happen in his formula|0 Thank you Luckly I think I am in ruralish Iowa My grandma while elderly at 89 has never had any health issues Granted she made it sound like if she is ready to die not in a suicidal way but in a she 92 year old grandfather have none of their generation left aka no cousins no brotherinlaws no sistrtinlaws no brothers and no sisters left alive It was kind sobering in a way and have only heard two other people talk that way in my left one of which was my other grandmother who was 94 at the timeOn the other hand they both were cracking jokes about getting Scarlett Fever measles mumps etc as kids and making it through every Polio outbreak that happened every sunmer|1 I guess your number is way off Its quite likely the number is closer to 100k than 20k Its hard to get a good estimate unless you start doing random samples But for example in the Netherlands hospital personel at some places had been tested with a 510 infection rate If you start testing schools youll likely find a high percentage of children infectedShits crazy|1 And thats great news as its Carnevale ambrosiano in Milano and Varese areas not sure about Lodi Im not exactly Catholic with street parades fair and everythingIm kinda curious about the religious standpoint most older folks go to church each week and shaking hands and blessed water basins look like a big no no for me right now but church and basic common sense hygiene never got along too wellI live 15 km from Malpensa and a lot of people in the area work there I expect something to pop up soon enough here|1 Is this in the spirit of the monkey king|1 I dont think that anyone can predict an individual persons chances of being killed by the coronavirus But epidemiology can glimpse what groups might be at a higher risk We review those risks in this story These underlying conditions make coronavirus more severe and theyre surprisingly commonhttpswwwnationalgeographiccomscience202003theseunderlyingconditionsmakecoronavirusmoresevereandtheyaresurprisinglycommon And the World Health Organization has put out a comprehensive report on the topic httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf|0 Children die preventable deaths each year because some crunchy granola Facebook mom tried to treat their meningitis with ginger extract and hot water|0 Here is a quick one I found httpswww13wmazcommobilearticlenewslocaltruckimpactcoronavirusshelvesstockedlimitdriverdrivingreliefhelpsanitizerhandswashregulationsrules9376760ac5a9b747e8a4b91abbfc960230 Im in Pennsylvania for the next 2 weeks where all the rest areas are closed down The drivers really dont have a choice They cant stop|1 Maybe ease up on the all caps alarmist shit and stop listening to Alex Jones|0 Daddy Odin can wreck me anytime|0 So the SARS 10 fatality rate in 2000s and MERS 30 fatality rate in 2010s are caused by what then Doctors forgetting to wash their hands and keep fluids up|0 Without proper training and aseptic technique its easy for someone to contaminate their own mask accidentally Thats the real worry|0 How much did they spend on developing the system getting it certified by the medical regulatory bodies and establishing the manufacturing facilities to make the reusable ones Im not saying it justifies an 11000 price tag but its certainly more than the 1 euro spent by the person taking the established part with no need for RD regulation or making it reusableETA Im willing to bet that these 3D printed valves wouldnt pass a medical regulatory test for materials or tolerance Im also willing to bet that nobody is going to fine the hospital for using uncertified devices right now|1 Wtf A wealthy european country is not a great place to be Yeah sure|0 And you wonder why people dont like you|0 I thought he had a reddit account Maybe we could tag him and encourage the idea utheSamuelLJackson we need your help|1 Sent to China via Aliexpress urgent post|1 Old data suggests young people die 2 but its not very good data quite frankly we are currently finding out what the true number is|0 Chloroquine opens a wormhole that allows us to travel back in spacetimeBut seriously I read that as upon administration of Chloroquine it takes on average 44 days until negative test results If that is correct and these are human trials this news seems really good especially because Chloroquine is such an easy to manufacture common drug with decades upon decades of use in humans|1 Its probably not a bad idea to tell any older loved ones anything you might have to|1 Yesterday CDC finally started making more alarming statementshttpswwwreuterscomarticleuschinahealthusaidUSKBN20F2GS I suspect it had something to do with the State Department dismissing their opposition to repatriating those quarantined travelers the way they did Suddenly the next day CDC starts speaking more honestly and publicly about the likelihood of impending pandemic and impact on our daily lives I guess the only way to win a political battle like theirs was to gain public support that could influence an election and force Trump to weigh in lol|1 I thought you meant there was a site like stubhub for this stuff|1 So basically your using this subreddit as a crutch to fuel your paranoia about what is just another flu|0 Im just shocked at how casually everyone is taking it I live in UK and have family in India and in both places everyone I know is just ignoring this news treating it like this is some minor infection that wont affect themWe should still be looking at closing the border Economic hit should be least of the worries now UK is better placed than many others in Europe because its cut off by water|0 I enjoy reading everyones ideas and such on these forums Today I went to the pharmacy inside my local clinic and no one was wearing masks no signs about China or the virus just normal people getting prescriptions Then I go to Target and again no one is wearing masks I proceed to buy 4 large hand sanitizers clorox wipes bleach alcohol hydrogen peroxide 6 tubes of toothpaste 4 bottles of saline solution 48 tablets of mucinex DM 400 ibuprofins and a bunch of other stuff we need if we were to be quarantined for a month or so Oh and the hand sanitizer and clorox wipes are for my classroom We are on vacation and I return to teaching Monday pretty sure Im going to get sick with something one of my 231 students brings back from wherever they went over the break The cashier looked at me like I was crazy My family thinks Im nuts too the pantry is full of nonperishables Good thing is that we are not running out of any of that stuff for a very long time|1 This is easily brought from chemists called AVLOCLOR and cheap aswell might be worth keeping inI used it in my Fish Tank kill unwanted parasitesStrangely its a anti malaria drug more for parasitesso no idea why you would use it on this|0 It gives rich folks time to move their money around minimize damages|1 So with a company like Walmart that is wellknown for treating its workers like trash announcing paid sick time for quarantine or COVID infection today I expect well maybe see some kind if global conglomerate pissing contest to shame the companies that havent offered sick time yet|0 This is hilarious given all the misguided commenters insisting that masks and respirators have no protective value outside of medical settings|1 You are correct about simply waiting this out unless you need the emergency room There is no treatment all doctors can do is make you comfortable until your body fights off the infectionor doesnt If your breathing shuts down they can try to force oxygen into your body but COVID19 causes lung tissue deterioration so that a ventillator is only limited help A ventillator pushes air into your lungs but if your lungs arent taking up the oxygen youre screwed anywayI have diabetes I have kidney issues Ive been a cigarette smoker for more than 40 years Im overweight and have barely exercised at all since I was a little kid For me this is a potentially lifethreatening situation Im seriously considering spending money I dont have for even basic groceries to be delivered The more Im in my own home the fewer shared surfaces I touch and the less chance someone will spew droplets on me But if none of that works and I still catch COVID19 chances are I can plan my funeral|0 Americas system is broken Please vote for someone who will fix it like Andrew Yang|1 Droplet or aerosol infection spread Surgical mask or respirator Asymptomatic transmission or symptomatic only Ive seen evidence supporting both sides|1 This is a conversation ive had with some people They had no answer and got mad Youre such a shinning example of morality now because the media stuck fear up your ass but up until now you havent given much of a fuck about how many people die from the flu They just dont care 50k Ok thats acceptable But COVID NO MY GOD NO|0 Alcohol and acetaminophen use the same enzyme pathway for breakdown and tylenol occupies the enzyme for a significant amount of time which causes the toxic breakdown product of alcohol to build upTylenol by itself isnt hard on the liver you can take the appropriate dose every day for seventy years and be fine But with alcohol bad combo|0 I wish they would let us work from home I work on a military base How many people have recently returned from PCS TDY or deployments Literally people from all over but we are still required to show up every day Oh but they canceled staff meetings So we got that|1 In my area national grid wont be making people pay their electricity or bills will be cut in half until further notice I dont know about other areas but thankfully it seems most companies will understand if people cant work they wont be able to pay|1 Oh I agree But this Pope has made huge strides forward I equate it to Flake or Corker returning to lead the US GOP party There would have had to be some groundswell of support|1 Good luck OP I hope that they will both pull through|1 When I was an infant I caught RSV and it damaged my lungs quite severely last pulm appointment had my function at 56 so coronavirus is horrifying to me with the prospect of even further degraded breathing abilityJust the flu indeed|0 Can you imagine the cesspool of the muslim no go zones I hope yall dont go there when they call for help ever God just the way they live will turn them into massive incubators|1 Theres alot of white people in China too And Im sure given the opportunity they could get sick too Reading the first few comments of this post has really disgusted me in humanity right now Wow|1 Thats good news Yet I feel conditioned to be skeptical until several tests have been done over a time rangeJust heard too many false negatives unreliable test stories|1 Soon Western Nations will learn of AntibodyDependent Enhancement ADEhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAntibodydependentenhancement which is present in SARSCoVhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3019510 and likely SARSCoV2httpsjviasmorgcontentjvi945e0201519fullpdfThe Asian nations that dealt with the SARS crisis of 2003 are all employing a strategy to minimize infections These strategies were developed based upon the findings of that crisisThe socalled Herd Immunity approach is a recipe for disaster for any virus that exhibits ADE|0 thank you I am not a huge wedding person never had my visiondream since childhood or being a controlling manic about my day but was a big party to celebrate our love and legally binding our families we were really excited for all our loved ones to mingle and have a great day if we didnt want a party we would not have planned one but we did plan a party and a circumstance far out of our control is impacting that for not just us but many others its not a quick or local event like a fire or storm its global and invisible|1 Yup My friend walked into a store to get meat and guess what there wasnt anyToo much hysteria Theres thousands in this city Why wouldnt the shelves be empty if we anticipated a lockdown Apparently having 2 week supply is hoarding|1 South Korea was well prepared for this moment Trump fired the Pandemic Response Team back in 2018 to cut funds|0 I read that Germany had a huge increase in pneumonia and flu related deaths last month But they werent testing |1 Where is it illegal to film a dead person I cant really think of any country Not even in China unless they dont want the footage out for other reasons aka it is a dystopian nightmare for a majority of its civilians|0 So one of the things I think most Canadians can do that will help a lot is to have a discussion with the community and identify people who are unprepared for self isolation and to help them do so This could be giving away supplies a bit of money perhaps going shopping for them Perhaps there are healthcare or infrastructure workers in your community reach out to them and make sure they are prepared too I think we could take this a step further by developing community response networks So if your neighbors or you need help or have a situation everyone can contact each other quickly and safely Start collecting your neighbors phone numbers and give them a call Perhaps we should be electing block or community leaders so that if something happens were not all calling each other at once Perhaps the block leader should be calling people to check in on them every day as well especially the elderly and at risk Perhaps we need to identify healthy individuals and task them with community shopping trips There is a ton we could do in regards to mobilizing ourselves to look out for one another and to help each other get through this I think if we take this down to a block level we can kick the hell out of coronavirus one street at a time The government can only work from the top down but we citizens are on the ground floor and we have a right a duty to work together to keep our families and communities safe By organizing ourselves and working together we can beat this thing And who knows we might just make some lasting bonds hereStay safe stay inside If you need help ask If you can help answer Good luck|1 Just 2 months ago here in Australia people dug deep to support the victims of the bushfires 2 months on a large portion of this people are fighting each other for toilet paper That tells me all I need to know|0 Hes survived the Vietnam war a catastrophic failure inside a spaceship 2 plane crashes storming the beaches of Normandy on Dday and being sleepless in Seattle China Flu will not take Tom Hanks|0 Holy shit thank you Im so tired of hearing Im 25 so Ill be fine Its just the flu|0 There was another one a while ago that read Coronavirus cancels conference about coronavirus and thought the exact same thing|0 Well me of course I have like 99 survival chance while she has 60 based on italian numbers|1 Thats cool they used github|1 What a coincidence Right after WHO calls coronavirus as a very grave threat its funding gets cut|0 Your DMs might get interesting|1 Thatd be a human rights violation Only way it could get worse is if horse meat is involved|0 Can you blame the team for wanting to test them The team isnt the one failing to test everyone else|1 Laughed harder than I should thank you|1 I just also saw this about vitamin DhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvW5yVGmfivAkfeatureyoutubeMight be helpful to considerHope you go okay|1 The death rate world wide from 20092010 for Swine was 02|0 Being overwhelmed and overworked is probably adding to the mortality rate also lots of medical staff apparently are also being infected which means those medical staff become patients themselves probably without replacements to fill their previous role|0 Feels like a big momentsure all will be revealed on the morrow |1 Yep Even then I am sure some chad will invite everyone for his house party And people are so used to going out and not being solitary that they will cave in It has already spread for months and months Its gonna do more|1 Costco in Gilbert AZ I went there today to buy water for our law office and frozen noddles around 12pm It is always quiet around that time It was a crazy mess in there 10 minutes to park Someone giving you wipes to clean the cart Only water available was Alkaline water No dried beans Almost no rice left they usually have a lot Only Tuna available was the expensive one I was planning to buy a few extra cans Everybody was buying TP and paper towels Really long lines to pay all stations were open I asked the cashier if it was always that busy He said it was not He said people was shopping for the end of the world He was not a happy camperI am so glad we did all our prep shopping one month ago|0 Stupid question Why is there a yearly fall off in cases of flu|0 Because no one has masks|0 Yea but you do see the difference between a nationwide pandemic shutting down large swaths of the economy seemingly overnight and someone down on their luck One absolutely requires a robust government response no matter what you believe and the other is really a matter of opinion|1 The only thing youd get is sandy eyes peeling skin and a very irritated respiratory system With 60 watts of uvc lamps at up to 6 feet 99 sterilization would take about 45 mins with a safe exposure time of maybe a second The amount of ozone needed to do the same would probably put you close to death Now if you want to do this with your hazmat suit with external respirator go right ahead but at that point youd be better off with a chemical disinfectant wash|1 Yes that is correct may people who have and are infectious but will never develop symptoms Thats why it is spreading so fast At least that is the scientific advice we are getting in the UK For a lot of people they will never know they had it but will pass it on to other people That is why we are being asked to avoid nonessential interactions and keep clear of the elderly|1 My regular human brain just exploded as well|1 This makes the most sense haha|1 True 0 is impossible to tell You can still have asymptomatic patient around but if they never go to the doctor they will never be confirmed No country can say they have true 0 So this 0 just means 0 new confirmed This apply to all the countries not just China|1 It honestly pisses me off that this is likely to happen My job just quarantined for three weeks the university I have placement at is shutting down classes All this work to slow the virus only to have it all be undone if the states just spreads it back here a month later Hopefully we can keep the numbers low enough that the health care system can handle them|1 Why would anyone not consider it criminal to endanger the lives of dozens maybe thousands of peopleIt went 2 2 to 4 pretty quick|1 Wow thanks|1 Also China is so wonderful China is recovering China is number wan no new cases in China you must believe the figures are true shill shill shill shill shilling|1 Give em hell San Antonio|0 Id like to buy a vowel|1 While the USA has a much larger population say 4x5x the other countries in the chart the USA also is testing a dramatically smaller percentage of the population than other countries So the number of cases here is a less accurate reflection of the number of infections|1 Unironically rob these people|0 Strep throat does that fyi|1 Our director literally told us before the company decided to send us home to work remotely when we began calling out to avoid coming into work you know what happens when you get corona You get sick Then you get better He made this comment after a management level meeting where they brought in a WHO doctor to guide their policy decisions I can only imagine what the WHO doctor told these assholes|0 I hope op is wrong but Im worried he may be right|0 The disease is spreading and the best thing european and american people can do is argue on reddit i love our society|1 They arent testing anyone unless they came from China or Iran or are super sickat risk now|1 Is Fishermans Wharf really that bad now I visited that area in the early 90s and had a blast|0 Try to strive a balance between culture and protecting yourself In case wearing a mask is not socially acceptable at your workplace at least try distant youself from other workers and keep good hygeineA big change in social habitz would most likely to occur either due to a big shock or government policy I hope in this situation its the latter that advocates this to your society|1 The problem is that most people use the term flu to describe virtually any minor illness when its actually a severe cold or norovirus No one is actually getting tested unless they end up in the hospital Only like 310 of people get a genuine influenza virus every year|0 It is normal expected and applauded that medical researchers are researching these diseases Theres nothing alarming about this journal article at all unless a person isnt in touch with how the world operates or they misunderstood the meaning behind the articleresearchBut that idea gets no traction here This sub is 95 conspiracy nuttiness and voices of reason are mocked Ive got one guy convinced I work for China Go figure|0 There were people with severe Ebola who were treated with limited resources at home and lived in LiberiaSo I hope at least homecare protocol will be widely known other than just stay inside|0 In one of the other threads people were talking about how medical N95 masks are completely different from what we get from Home Depot Is that true|1 How effective is spraying entire cities with disinfectants Ive seen Iranian Chinese and South Korean cities doing that Wouldnt it be more effective to only disinfect door knobs etc and things that people actually touch Also isnt it the case that most infections occur via droplets and physical contact|1 A member of my family works in a warehouse for one of the large supermarkets There are no issues with the supply of goods there is plenty of everything They just cant get the goods out quickly enough to meet the unprecedented demand They are all doing overtime and for the last week or so every day has been like Christmas Eve|0 Or just get sick for a few days and recover which is what the vast majority of people are currently doing|0 So as a UPS driver Im basically screwed If anyone in our system catches this it will spread like crazyThe main thing would be not to touch your face Ideally you could still find hand sanitizer or alcohol and keep a small pocket bottle or better yet wash your hands before eating or doing something similarHandling materials is way better than getting breathed on by being near othersAnd cardboard is a lot safer than stainless or plastic sorry about those plasticy amazon bubble mailersSteering wheel is likely more of an issue than the packages On top of that we are just bringing the virus to everyones door step because all anyone does when theyre stuck at home is order onlineLess risk than things bought in person but sure washing received items makes senseIf someone has a secure yard putting them on the back porch or a balcony in the sun for a while wouldnt be terrible eitherAnd a big thank you for helping keep people supplied at this critical time|1 Prime example of why everyone should get sick leave or universal coverage Its outrageous companies would risk everyone getting sickI wish wartime powers can be invoked assist those who have to stay home|0 Which government responded to the virus by insinuating that it came from somewhere else while everyone is doing their best to combat the virus Which government used their influence on WHO to downplay the severity of the virus causing two neighbouring countries to be overwhelmed then used their state propaganda to promote a one party dictatorship by shifting the attention to the flawed responses of those two neighbours Which government punished citizen reporters who tried to get the truth out even after the whistle blower died Mind you one of them is a lawyer who understood the law and knew he did nothing wrong according to Chinese law Which organisation told the world that travel restrictions are not needed hereby allowing infected personnel to bypass travel restriction via transiting through a country that bought into said organisations lies Ill give you a hint one of them is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world that routinely ignores the very laws they elected and harvest live organs for profit The other one is spearheaded by someone working for said terrorist organisation|0 a singular virus will multiply exponentially once it infects you so theres no way to be a little infected they are different from parasites|0 I guarantee it|1 Reminds me of the man who just rode an airplane out of JFK after BEING TESTED FOR COVID19 and found out en route that he was positive Whether it is sheer stupidity or reckless selfishness that kind of negligence makes my blood absolutely boil|0 So it looks like the epidemic was centered in Wuhan then|1 The important part is the Roche high throughput testing equipment is already in use of the labs around the country And Ive heard many more were ordered recently The Roche ones are pretty massive as this YouTube video showshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv6PjaC3d3o|1 Theres very limited information Obviously it will not get to the extent of infecting everyone in the country but we have very little or no data on treatment quarantine or prevention because the US government is very slow moving on the matter americans dont tend to go to the doctor when sick and our culture doesnt like to be contained or told what to do The model is in its earliest stage that doesnt show decline yet because its too uncertain when that will beWe have an incredibly small rate of recovery thats basically negligible 151022 Yes people will get better but we dont know at what rate and what the chances are of becoming infected again before its under control We could look at the rates of other countries but it doesnt exactly apply because different cultures means different rates of infection and recoveryThe exponential growth shown is a case of if the government did not act at all We know the government is slowly making a response so what the chart shows in a few weeks is sure to be false but its too soon to create a reliable prediction range Theres a 100 chance a vaccine will not be in circulation in the next month so no need to work that into a model just yetBottom line the exponential growth Im showing at least for the next week is very likely 10000 cases a week from today More than a week away is fair game for anything because we dont have enough to predict infection rates that far out|1 I am sort of okay with that I feel like we could overload the hospitals with patients with placebo symptoms that in turn catch the virus We need a public service announcement defining what early symptoms look like and a way to self diagnose|1 Also masks do not protect uninfected people from getting these types of virusesThe statement about masks is untrue There are many studies proving beyond a reasonable doubt that N95P2 N100P3 offer good protection against viruses of this size Surgical masks offer some but less protection Is there something very special about this virus that makes masks uselesshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5705692httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed16490606httpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670113000698fulltexthttpswwwijidonlinecomarticleS12019712280829010084fulltextEven homemade and improvised masks can help httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed14997706Why is this misinformation so widely being spread My hypothesis is that its because theres a global PPE shortage right now and masks are needed for mission critical personnel such as healthcare workers I think this is a terrible thing because its lying to the public I know its true that many do not wear masks properly but they can be taught They can also be taught to make home made or improvised ones which would give some degree of protection They lying is destroying trust in any expert who uses this narrative imo Which is unfortunate since once trust is broken it is not easily regained if ever|0 Be 20 something AmericanConsidered lower income classGet nasty cough feel like Im almost suffocatingGo to urgent care clinic since thats all I can afford hope theyll give me a couple pills to help with my cough so I can keep attending my slave wage jobGet put into ambulance with EMTs in hazmat suits before I know whats even happeningGet put in isolation chamber and have a bunch of CDC investigators interrogate meFinally recover from flu like 30 days laterGet hit with 647621 dollar bill on the way outAh the American dream Honestly fuck American healthcare|1 I find if also important that is possible is often not really relevantIt matters if a significant portion of all infections are asymptomatic but if it is just one percent it will not matter if symptomatic spread is reduced by 70|1 Opens bathroom door gets your hands infected again|0 Great advice|1 What a nice consideration|1 Sounds like Ill survive fine then|1 is this a serious fucking question If so what kind of asshole are you It works by him not being a total piece of shit and knowing that sex work is work|0 Have you never heard of an exaggeration Stop trying to trivialize this outbreak because you have a poor grasp on the English language Nobody builds 19 fucking hospitals for just the flu bro Can your low power brain even conceptualize what 19 hospitals looks like|0 As far as I understand it the role of the oximeter is to avoid over oxygenation The guidelines I found go into detail for different mask or nasal optionsIf it gets to the point I need to use it then I will be reviewing this obviously but I hope it never gets to thatIn any case once it looks like the hospital system is a few weeks from saturation well go into complete lockdown until its back up We have Italy a few weeks ahead of us on the timeline so Ill use them as a guideline|1 I dont have enough karmas to post here so i wrote something for you guys to do and please help me get more karmas so i can share more important stuff with you guys thank you very muchGOAL OF EVERY MOVE CONTROL THE PATH OF INFECTION FROM ALL THE DETAILSWear a mask And use alcohol or something to sterilize constantly This is the most important procedure none of other steps matters if you dont wear a mask and sterilize You dont wear the mask BECAUSE youre sick You wear it JUST LIKE CONDOMSQuarantine yourself for 14 days if youve been to a place with diagnosed cases ITS STILL CONTAGIOUS WITHIN THE 14 DAYS PLEASE BE CAREFUL EVEN WITHOUT SYMPTOMS Stop public transportation within one city For trains and planes try to reduce the amount of them and create a group online for every trainflight If someone in the group got diagnosed later flight attendence should update that in the group so everyone else can be preparedStop the unnecessary stores and places Barbershop spa movie theater plastic surgery department even Do not give yourself the unnecessary exposure For restaurants stop eating at the place at all Use takeouts Or one person per table I know it sounds crazy but its working pretty well in China|1 not my impression|0 instead of TP I got a bidetIm not doubting your choice we may end up using and throwing away rags made from tshirts just be aware the virus is shed in feces so be careful where you point that thing so you dont spread too many spray germs |1 I mean if its true that more people have the virus than currently estimated then that will bring the CFR down quite a bit Isnt that good news|1 its like everywhere else except china|1 This advice makes absolutely no sense Weve seen how quickly it spreads in families Should we be isolating anyone 60 in their own homes too|0 Definitely but IMO they should be shutting down all schools in high risk areas by now Things only gonna get worse and you cant reduce risk by being reactive|0 Hopping in to take my downvotes here Trump is a mess but lets not wish harm on anyone during this kind of scary time guys Think of your loved ones this is serious|1 That is awesome AF|1 Well for now we kinda do There are few tests that have been developed but all work mostly on symptomatic people probably because during that period the concentration of both the virus and specific antibodies are both highDuring incubation generally the concentration in virus is too low to detect We just could separate the virus correctly and a promised to be good test has just been achieved in France but it will take days Bertie it even starts getting mass produced|1 Im buying some freeze dried food getting gallons of water stored up Propane and butane burners And have a few guns to protect it all Tbh this virus just reminded me that Im under prepared for bad events But not anymore|1 this will also cause more panic as ppl will think the fatality rate is higher|0 I believe it Ive been sick for 5 days now and my boyfriend we live together has not gotten sick at all|0 Thats Apu Apustaja Hes a lot cuter than pepe |1 The good news is you wont be living on the same planet as ALL these stupid people for too much longer|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2Fcovid19 Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factualIt appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 Lmao|1 They were talking about how bad the flu season was going to be back in August Australia had a pretty intense flu season last year and they compare The ours to theirs While CORVID19 May have been spreading earlier than we thought the flu was a bit worse this year but they had been expecting that|0 ffs|0 They should be forced to test it themselves Send them out to hospitals to provide care for those who have tested positive Lets see how it works out for them|1 eli5 please|1 yes theres a middle class what the fuck are you even talking about|0 I was wondering which state was going to blow up with infections and I guess Washington State might be the first one I honestly thought California would be first|1 Wow thats terrifying And yeah just shows the importance of having a stash Its so readily available when theres no panic happening and cheap no reason not to|0 the mother in law is involved saying it should be okay to goOf course she is|1 That would take away hospital space and medical staff from sicker patients expose patients who dont need inpatient care to nosocomial infections and increase the likelihood of HCW infections who would presumably come and go from said facilities|0 The governments regional authority breakdownhttpswwwgovukgovernmentpublicationscoronaviruscovid19numberofcasesinenglandcoronaviruscovid19numberofcasesinengland is about as clear as mud so I figured Id use an old Greater London Authority excel templatehttpsdatalondongovukdatasetexcelmappingtemplateforlondonboroughsandwards to track where cases are cropping up although unfortunately the colour gradient scale isnt superb Londons the most infected region at the moment and as a Londoner it helps me contextualise it a bit betterThe City of London doesnt have data as theyve rolled counts in with Hackney for disclosure control This also doesnt include the counts which are confirmed but dont have a region associated with them|1 Hey now who doesnt love clicking people to death if youre very lucky you might even get to click twize|0 It shows complete ignorance and lack of thinking anything through before making announcementsMy daughter had a lot of ventilation support after her two heart surgeries she couldnt get off them for a long time She was even on a form of ECMO postsurgeryMy brother happened to work for one of the companies that makes the ECMO machine As such I have a decent level of knowledge of how the machines work the risks they balance in use as well as the stringent processes they have to follow in maintenance and manufactureA couple of years ago we got a really troubling hospital letter that some ECMO machines were contaminated during parts manufacture with a bacterium which would cause significant problems and possibly death Symptoms may not show up for 5 years postuse This was a big big mishap and happens exceptionally rarely due to the really strict manufacturing processes these are after all medical devices that are inserted into patients bodies and run for days at a time You cant just ask any old equipment manufacturer to start diverting their resources and tooling into making these kind of machines Even if they physically can be trained and retooled to make the parts are the factories necessarily designed and maintained in a way that would prevent contamination I dont have any money to bet and Id stake a lot no|0 He totally got away with calling a genuine hero a pedo Why not this|1 No just no|0 Yesss i never even thought of that Would be nicer than wiping anyways thank you|1 It sounds like you have some medical experience but we really need sources to believe the claims your makingI dont think anyone please correct me has an IgGIgM test currently available The WHO site lists various RTPCR protocols in use around the world httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019technicalguidancelaboratoryguidanceI really cant imagine a situation in which we would need to make our own RTPCR protocol vs copying protocols that are working quite well in other countriesIf you are indeed going to be a doctor I deeply wish that youll take more care in researching your statements before offering them|1 Some guy next town got it and went celebrating and partying until he ended in the hospital Then some guy damaged my car and left without contact details True comment|1 I am well aware of that but its still better than what a lot of people are acting like it could be|1 Significant experience in industrial 3D printing familiar with materials design for manufacturing and operations management How can I help|1 Deleted as I dont want to give false info Seems like murica has different guidelines|1 Generously assuming that was true best case scenario then is that weve hit a plateau of fewer than 1400 cases being tested For a country of more than 330 million Sound right|1 The good luck comes from people like yourself that debunk incorrect theories stranger Thanks for your reply|1 Tell your friend some random Reddit guy thinks hes smart|1 Hands down Good job That is what I love in this amazing country and want to move there in the coming years for some time Singapore is a jewel I hope it will be a glorious city for long|1 Flavored blunt wraps got banned back in the day because there was evidence the flavor additives opened the taste buds in the mouth and led to increased rates of mouth cancer that and its marketed to kids|0 Well Im glad Tennessee will have it now thanks to this greedy asshole Now what about the other 49 states|1 Thats irking me too It may be due to selection bias so many mild cases never got care in Wuhan but did get care in other cities But by the same token were hearing stories of people dying in their homes in Wuhan so its not like theyre even getting the worst of the worst casesMy guess is that its somethingsomething transmission vector|0 Before the government started distributing them I couldnt buy any and people kept telling me to put on a mask It was annoying but 98 of people wearing masks has to part of the reason for the success with the virus here|1 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure you dont need to have completely contained the virus for carelessness to cost hundreds or thousands of lives|0 Please also help us in St Paul MN The St Patricks day parade is planned to go aheadhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh3i3bstpaulstpatricksdayparadewillbegoingutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfh3i3bstpaulstpatricksdayparadewillbegoingutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x|1 You are making quite a few assumptions that dont appear to be supported by any data|1 Right guidestones n all thatI wouldnt be surprised if this is what they discussed in their last builderberg meeting they were especially secretive that year and their replies to reporters seemed particularly sinisterSoon after that the president met the the queen in brittan as per decorum But no doubt this was discussed in some way I knew they were upto something I just would have never imagined thisTheyre all fkn demons as far as I know|0 Keeping numbers low has many political effects If the numbers were truly represented I dont think any nation would be looking so hot except maybe China Real Korea Japan and NigeriaReal numbers would show where the real incompetence is add in people dying and the survivors remember who was supposed to be in charge when their insert relative here died To many long memories for to many people and they start talking about regime change So some leaders would be voted out trump Macron Bolsonaro and others would be over thrown and killed Un Khamenei Putin MBS|0 The seriousness hasnt sunk in for many as its pretty much business as usual Go work come home pick up kids from school etc etc|1 1000 positives three days before this Now its 5000 With 90 deathsThats a 5x increase in 3 daysI saw a study that said its likely that 86 of cases are walking around untested at this point Lets assume theyre alarmist and its more like 50 So now we have 10000 cases in the US this is a laughably low estimate10000 cases x 5 in 3 days is 50k250k before a week is up assuming we arent slowing down at all|1 You want food on hand in case stores are forced closed supply chains are disrupted or forced quarantine prevents you from getting outIf Italy is is any indicator as to how this will play out for us we still have a few weeks left to shop albeit protected|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Thanks I meant only for temporary storage and they have to cleaned out thoroughly I probably should have clarified that Ive reused water jugs for years or juice bottles I store large amounts of water because we have terrible well water and we live in a more rural area that loses power in the winter Ideally you wouldnt use a container that had a milk product in it but if they are cleaned out well theyre good in a pinch or if youre too poor to buy containers|1 People are still working in Italy restaurants and bars are still open UK industry has more scope for working at home which will definitely be increasing over the next week as businesses prepareI work in IT and weve just started preparing for more and more people working from home If everyone immediately starting working from home now businesses would not be prepared so when we came back to work in 2 weeks wed be back to where we are now but with more infections and less prepared for when we do need to close up shop Theres no stopping this infection we need to limit and slow it as much as possible and its not time yet|0 In an ideal world yes but it also puts a heavy impact on those effected their workplace and the overall economy Dr Torres|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 That can possibly lead to blood clots Not heart attacks or strokes|1 Yeah I was at waterfall swimming in the Caribbean once enjoying myself and then came a bus full of cruise goers to ruin the experience I dont like being in crowds Wherever cruise goers there are crowds And they are people with poor manners and loud and obnoxious They are on short time frames so they think they can ruin anyone elses experience for the 20 minutes they are somewhere|0 So far 0 fatalities in age group 09Source httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathratehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathrate|0 Kids aged 09 have a 1 chance to die from it Edit No fatalities reported 1030 is a 2 and slightly increases until it hits in the 70s and 80s which rises to 14 chance Ages 030 will feel like a very bad cold unless they have a bad immune system Problem isnt dying at that age but rather spreading it to people at a higher age or people with bad immune systems and health problems|0 There were people in the Bay Area hoarding them and then sending them to China a few weeks ago Unreal Some are my colleagues I told them it was absolutely foolish behavior at the time but of course that made me racist or something|0 Lmao Got a dramatic type on our hands ladies and gentlemen|1 Yeah that picture was not posed or setup at all 100 legit|1 People are not that smart They feel you where a mask because your sick All Because trump said wearing a mask is useless But this is not true It works both ways So where your mask Loud and proud They are just jealous because you have a mask Lol|0 Its too bad the hosts wouldnt shut the fuck up|0 LoL 201 ampm|1 Heard lunch workers coming in as usual but if they are the only people there isnt not that bad of a situation|0 Dont freak out Corona is luckily extremely mild in children Youve probably just got a plain old cold or flu|1 Im hoping that this will at least culture shock them into changing their ways and attitudes for the better kind of like being Bombed did for the Japanese And yeah theres lots of Chinese Taoist stories about how bad situations can actually result in something good in the end|1 Another factor no one mentioned is climate The virus may be more prone to spread in the current East Asian climate|0 Now you might be asking yourself just how difficult are these tests What was in that phone book of a contract I signed Am I in danger Let me answer those questions with a question Who wants to make sixty dollars Cash|0 Just like twd everyones infected but with a milder stain s|0 stall for time|0 I rewatched Contagion yesterday and the major difference between today and the movie was how competent the CDC team was in the movie|0 My wife had 5 babies at home with no intervention You do not need a hospital if you are healthy and full term Good luck you got this|1 In China the CCP central government punished the local officials doing the coverup In US who is going to punish Trump|0 Thank you I did not know that But the calculations dont work out that way Germany for instance has 3 deaths and 25 recoveries Recovered death 8333 which makes no sense If I do Death Recovered I get 120|0 We are all fucked the prognosis for everyone is death Dont let it get you down it may or may not strike any time and you can and should live the best most meaningful life a human can live while you can|0 Wuhan was bad because hospitals got overrun|0 Instead of combating misinformation wouldnt it be better if the WHO would you know FIGHT THAT DAMN DISEASE|0 Saw this awhile back and thought it was creepy as hell when she just stopped screaming all of a sudden Apparently that may be a portable incinerator|0 selecting information is very important nowadays this means listening to experts and do not waste your time with trolls and knowitalls that have no scientific background at all that would be like letting some construction worker decide what to do when you have an heart attack instead of calling emergency services|0 Cuz after everyone gets it we allthe survivers I mean may or may not include me but I can hope Can just go|1 Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan will forever be the worst Presidents in US history|0 Check out the video made by serpentza on the virus Its an hour long but gives pretty good insights into why the numbers in China are so fucked upAlso I think you have to remember that theres probably thousands upon thousands of people sick at home in China who are healthy and not going to the hospital The only people that do go to the hospital are the very sick ones who are therefore also more likely to die MERS was similar in that regard High case fatality but likely many unreported minor cases|0 Well there is some discussion now|1 But if everyone stays at home for two weeks and dont get sick the economy will hurt a lot of people and the people implemented that will get blamed for it Its a damned if you do damned if you dont situation|0 Same for me with a concert I was about to sing in Thursday and bye bye rehearsals Well Will sing in my bathroom|1 Your username is AThere have been some questions about legal issues with this sub For some reason a person online has believed that my flair as a counselor means Im offering free therapy and therefore legally liable so I thought this needed an update to correct them|1 I am very disappointed by the reaction of Switzerland so far Despite being praised as one of the most organised country in the world finance economy seems to be more of a concern than public healthcare I hope a country wide lockdown will be implemented asap as the effect will only be noticeable in 2 weeks time The virus does not care about the size of the country it is spreading in and it means that Switzerland has a much more limited amount of time to react compared to other European nationshttpsimgurcomn8xw2ih|0 Perhaps Contagion style bracelets you get one if you have COVID19 antibodies showing youve had it and fought it off or if youve gotten the hopefully eventual vaccine or based on a lottery system as hospital capacity frees up|0 I posted in another sub that several very wealthy people have been spotted in NZ and am searching for a plane spotting site at the moment It would not surprise me if dozens were here already|1 pretty amazing evolution to have coincidentally evolved to be absolutely ideal for spreading itself eh|1 Yeah same I havent been here that long but since I joined have barely been off|1 I agree 14 days is basically foreplay Need 21 or more to fuck the virus completely|0 Same with the Google office in Zurich they just dont give a shit|1 actually not thankfully That survey was taken way out of context and given fake headlines They asked people if they had plans to buy corona and 38 said no Except those people never planned to buy corona in the first place because they dont like it or normally drink it only 2 who normally buy corona said they wouldnt and the question didnt even ask if it was because of the virus they could have just not been planning on drinking corona over the next couple weeks for other reasons|0 Heh Im a NET developer If not C I would have different career for sure because programming in PHP Java and Python just wasnt ever fun to me Then I tried C and I knew I will be a software engineer|0 I really hope this will mean that the elderly dont have to be sacrificed|1 Yep which is why the KCDC is setting up indepth studies regarding this case I think its the first international death of teenager with no comorbidity|0 At a surgery they protect the patient not the staffThis is the interview httpswwwweltdegesundheitvideo205834277Covid19ExperteninformierenueberGefaehrlichkeitdesCoronavirushtml|1 I can only find the lancet study but i will not extrapolate the figures because they took a small sample and i prefer an actual count instead You can check the study if you want httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920300864fulltexthttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920300864fulltext|1 I have a 9w and 18w LED light covering two shelves I am documenting my experiment but in one week I am having more success than one month in my shaded balcony I live in the tropics so indoors is cooler than outdoors as well All indications show a regular lightbulb would offer positive results On the ground level shelf I have a mirror on one side and the top is cardboard with a foil cover The other three sides are open airA month ago I turned a five gallon water jug in to a fish tank for some gold fish This is my primary source of water for my garden the fish poop is an excellent source of nitrogen|1 Ops sorry I misunderstood what you were saying English is not my first languageSorry|0 The most frightening disease Ive ever encountered also|0 Assuming literally everyone on Earth gets infected|0 Second opinion wouldnt hurt|1 I miss 2014|0 Exactly The public option was the only sensible plan but the health insurance lobby killed it|0 There are a few studies Heres one As a newbie here Im reluctant to post links as they are sometimes removed httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3151653|0 I mean we definitely didnt do well with the lead time we had but otherwise he is handling this emergency okay Im willing to hold my criticism till its over Now if one of my parents dies because they couldnt get treatment Ill never forget that shit|1 The most educated priests tend to not actually believe the stuff because their education includes full history on how the book was put together They still spew the religion to others because thats the only job they are qualified forThe discussion of successors would be a battle of words as each participation tries to spin the texts in their favor in search for power|1 Our goal is to have every state and local health department online and doing their own testing by the end of next weekThats aggressive|0 Its happened in the UK recently East asians have been beaten up even when they werent wearing masks|0 Im an EMT The joke that we have is when we ask a nurse for medical history meds last vitals allergies etc they always say its not my patient or my shift just started Ive had a patient who was tachycardic sweaty hot and weak and the nurse says there temp is 986 In reality he was 103|1 It turned north before making landfall on Florida Alabama wasnt even close to being affected|0 The issue isnt just reviewers its that human trials take time The fact that they seem to be skipping animal trials completely will save many months there are ethical questions with this but those can be waived when faced with a pandemic but the fact is that it will take time to insure the treatment is both safe and effective in humansThat being said as someone else mentioned its possible this experiment treatment will be used in terminal patients even before testing is complete|1 I thought you were deadMy death was greatly exaggerated|0 What are the general feeling of the people Are they content happy angry etc|1 Things are so fucked because people in the US cant fucking handle having to allow their workers a little time off to not infect everyone elseI cant believe in 2020 we still have that mindset and at this rate even with this virus itll never go away|0 Im more worried about my kids than anything else Worried about keeping them safe and feed Some of the videosreports coming out of China scare the shit out of me I dont want my kids stabbed or on a ventilator Honestly dont care about myself as much As long as their good Im good|1 But we are It may seem that we are behind the 8 ball but lets be honest this is a huge beast to tackle in a globally connected world The amount of information coming out of this is probably immense and there are A LOT of brilliant minds working on it I have a feeling when all is said and done this may end up looking like a clear win for humanity and science versus what it would have looked like just a few decades ago|1 Its like we are constantly trying to catchup to something that has a 2 week head start on us It cant be done Im an optimist usually I like to see the good in things but I dont see any good in any of this at all This may have been manageable a month ago But its spiraling out of control and out government is careless and clueless They are failing us And its deplorable|0 Cement mixers become celebrities in China lockdownIm fuckin dead|0 This doesnt happen by accident|1 Yeah even if only 20 of the globe is infected at a 2 fatality rate thats still over 30 million people dead assuming 753 billion humans|0 Holy fuck how openly racist can a person be|0 What is the dosage for Chloroquine in the study please|1 There is no healthcare system theres just a medical industry|0 If an entire city gets locked down I guarantee you there will be more than libertarians raising hell Im not saying it shouldnt be locked down in certain circumstances Im saying everyone is ideological when its convenient when its not convenience many of them toot a different horn|0 Please promise me that you have a flavor factory based anecdote for every situation in your life|1 Wow MSN is really on top of their game Really insightful article on the things that all of us knew already In their defense it is probably because they had to use Bing to research it|1 What about Singapore They have managed to track down all of their cases No dead yet but 5 are in critical condition If it is slowed down maybe CFR can be kept at or below 5 If hospitals break down however it could be closer to hospitalization rate 25 or at least leave that many people with lasting health problems|0 This is legitimate good news thank you|1 Boyfriends mum cant wait for us all to be quarantined so we can help her start a vegetable patch |1 Source Genuinely interested bc i had seen something that implied that in a title recently but cant remember where it was|1 They are not sharp but can they kill you Sure as hell gonna make a messy corpse thoughSource Im an asian and I own several of those|0 But I agree we dont have to get their Obviously they managed to stop that we just need to be more committed and take it seriously|1 From what I am reading the idea isnt that heat makes it impossible to spread just more difficult For instance the article below talks about how in places with cold temperatures coronaviruses like this can travel quickly through the air while in hot humid conditions they fall to the groundhttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200212805256402cancoronavirusbecrushedbywarmerweatherhttpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200212805256402cancoronavirusbecrushedbywarmerweather|0 Do you want to be responsible for causing other people to die and then having their families in the same position as you If you fly you are at a greater risk of catching it and subsequently spreading the virus without even knowing it You may even be responsible for your own funeral Id definitely drive without a doubt Your position is terrible and I cant imagine being it or the struggle you must be going through but at some point we have to present the blunt truth and the reality of the situation we are all in|1 I still dont understand why we cant use other countries testing protocols Apparently ours suck enough that we just dont test most people that deffs have it|0 Not sure if this info applies as it is talking about pollution masks and most people here are buying surgical masks Not too effective for preventing yourself from getting a virus but theyre meant to stop you from passing illness on to other people In that sense its probably best for people who are sick not to use the same mask too many times|0 People here are too willing to take an untested vaccine lol|1 Neville Chamberlain type of bafoonish stupidity|0 Nobody is calling it the worst country in the world You guys are literally bordering NKIf you are middle class or above in China life can be rly good Chinas luxury scene has been expanding faster than its economy growing in recent yearsBut it could be so much better without the CCP in power|1 FWIW in vitro studies suggests that the drug would be most effective before the virus enters cells|1 by avoiding contact for as long as possible until a vaccine is readybetter than letting people die in droves|0 Everyone is money hungry Businesses no longer care about their employees or doing the right thing So glad to see this post although it should have never been like this to begin with Lets take it back from the corporations|1 Unfortunately even if each person only wears one mask a day there arent anywhere enough masks for the whole population Even after China went full steam on mass manufacturing their daily output is only 116 million masks a dayhttpwwwxinhuanetcomenglish20200302c138835152htm all types combined Pence told 3M to produce an extra 35 million masks per monthhttpsglobalbiodefensecomheadlinesustorampupmaskproductionbutchinaisbottleneckforrawmaterials The domestic mask output is pathetic|0 Funny My allergies never gave a runny nose except when I go outside and hang around in the ragweed like get up close and personal Stuffy sinuses yeah Increases my AHIs with my CPAP surely|1 Im not sure why thats in quotes as if its a bogus concept Fallout from The Great Depression killed a lot of peopleIts almost as if theres the potential for really negative consequences from the virus itself and from economic impacts|0 yes yesterdays report added roughly 600 cases from the day before|1 People getting things delivered to their doorstep is a lot better control of spread than people going to the store Having items delivered from a centralized warehouse is much less risk than going to a grocery store Are you suggesting people just dont shop at all It is an essential service Thats why countries and states that ordered restaurants and recreation to close give an exemption for grocery stores and pharmacies to stay open The virus isnt floating around in the air or infecting people just out of nowhere A deliver driver wont get infected by walking up someones porch and dropping a box on their step Be real|1 To become that rich you must be a bastard The only way to get filthy rich if someone else pays for it along the way|1 People that want to catch aids|1 Once you buy bulk items to sell at a significant profit which he admitted to youre a business operating without a license Doubt he was paying taxes on it yet either|1 Sorry if it seemed like I was inciting violence Wasnt my intention but I can see that it came off like that I dont want anyone to become infected|0 Dont worry the rich people in the US have tests|0 Like so many things with the Trump administration its probably against the law d Information shall not be classified in order to conceal inefficiency violations of law or administrative error to prevent embarrassment to a person organization or agency to restrain competition or to prevent or delay release of information that does not require protection in the interest of national security28 CFR 1722httpswwwlawcornelleducfrtext281722|0 I might have to reinstall WoW at this rate|1 Dude I live in Arlington fuck|0 Why 50 Oh thats right Because 50 people or less gathering together cant infect one other and then go on to infect others Im so glad smart people are in charge right now|1 Yep dun played myself lol Thanks for the heads up|1 Not even China or South Korea managed that now with this level of incompetence who expect those numbers from the US anymore|0 The regulations on labdeveloped tests are already insane Its hard to make a shoddy test and get away with it in normal circumstances|0 This described my conservative neighbor to a THe was still convenced this morning that this will be over by Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest I started walking away when he went on a rant about how this is actually Obamas fault and Trump will save us all because he said so|0 And norefund for all the money you paid into the system or financial compensation to your surviving family Death panels are a thing|0 Unfortunately most of them who do happen to catch COVID19 will recover completely and itll just reinforce their beliefs|0 They wont get under reasonable control with clowns like this in charge|1 Although it has not been confirmed for COVID19 certain viral infections have been shown to be more severe in cases of exposure to high viral doses presumably by incrementing the level of cytokines ie more rapid and pronounced cytokine stormThats something you would expect in a hospital crammed with infected patients although he likely wore protective gear|0 Might be explainable with the perceived crisis which might increase adherence to authority and the fact that the symptoms are pertinent to issues associated with smoking|0 Thanks mayor Ill note in my diary that de Blasio is a virtuous man taking a stand for the poor and sick|0 Sounds like the US heath care system should be charged then|1 Quick tidbit of information that the community may find useful I worked as a Hazmat Tech on a WMD response team for the US Army and specialized in decontamination There are two types of decontamination mechanical and chemical Combining the two is the best way to achieve a high level of success in removing contamination We found in testing that a decon wipe was the most effective at cleaning skin This was a fabric material embedded with cleaning agent The best field expedient version of this would be Dawn Dish Detergent an amazing surfactant created by Dow Chemical and a paper towel or microfiber towel Rinse the towel with water work the dawn into it and use the force of the towel to envelop and mechanically remove the contaminate Consider a tiered approach to hand washing where gross decontamination is accomplished through use of a wipe and technical decontamination is accomplished through use of scrubbing pads hot water and surfactant Stay safe|1 And however bad Germany is China is far worse 200 cases outside China and zero deaths is very optimistic Chinese health may be dealing with this admirably but its also true that the situation has clearly inflated deaths Even outside Hubei the death toll is FAR lower than within And its silly to imply German health care is no better than Hubei province in China|1 Yeah Italy is a world power speculated to surpass the us as the most powerful country Italy has a good health system but has problems with unemployment and migrants amd some other stuff They also have a morale code of not enforcing the quarantine with military and not welding people in their homes They cant build a hospital in 12 days either although it would be needed|0 Phone orders only no walkins Post menu outside Think of it like Walmart grocery pickup|1 Im sitting in an office in Hertfordshire hiding from my boss and gazing at statistics trying to make sense of it all Date Daily tests positives neg rate 06032020 2255 489787 07032020 1122 439617 08032020 2053 679674 09032020 1447 469682 10032020 1301 549585 11032020 1215 839317 12032020 2288 1349414 13032020 3007 2089308 14032020 4975 3429313 15032020 2533 2329084 16032020 3826 1719553Using the old criteria for testing which Im going to characterise as anyone who can phone up NHS111 and bully them into testing the negative rate was around 967 that is 29 out of thirty people who thought they had it didnt have itWith the new criteria of serious cases in hospital more than twice as many tests are being carried out and the negative rate is around 931 that is about 14 out of 15 people dont have itWhilst I dont doubt that the number of cases has increased If we assume that only people who are likely to have it get tested then still most people who think they do dontOf the thousands of people calling 111 its likely that more than 90 dont have itSuppose the negative rate was around 50 or even 10 most people who thought they had it or were likely to have it did indeed have it then you would have a compelling case But as it is most people dont have COVID19 they might be very ill with regular flu or just a chesty cough but still negative for COVID19Edit There was a thread here a week or so ago about someone who thought they might have already had COVID19 as they were ill around Christmas shortly after having dinner sitting in a restaurant near some Chinese looking people but without any clear way for the virus to travel the five thousand miles People like that make up the vast majority of the people who think they have COVID19|0 Thats actually really smart in my opinion Stop it before it can even start Or try to|1 Exactly Mother of two Get a single person with no dependants|0 A week ago he said to stay calm and take precautions an actual levelheaded response instead of pretending like its no big deal|1 Yeah he said theyre modelling it on Korea That makes sense as many of the fatalities were when Wuhan was swamped and everyone was getting infected Modelling it on Korea might be more accurate for a country with a functioning healthcare system the willingness to test tens of thousands a day and enough capacity to accommodate all the sickBut if this gets as dire as Wuhan was like we are seeing in Iran already it might be really problematic|0 Many different tests with many different procedures Every country does as it likes as there is no directive from the WHO on how to do itBut in this case its simple they treat you for the virus in your body the test will turn negative if you dont have enough of it to pass a certain threshold Not if you have any at allThe thing is that because an alive virus will multiply inside your body further tests later can turn positive|1 In terms of the general population our CDC who releases information on how to prevent illness is saying they dont work in prevention This is mainly to prevent mask shortages but also due to many people not using them properly to prevent the spread of illness We cant even get everyone to wash their hands here in the US let alone wear a mask or be considerate of others if they do get sick There isnt much collectivism here as compared to other places It is on the rise but it is slow and steady and considered to be mainly pushed by the youth source Every sociology professor I have had in three years of college There isnt much societal pressure for people to be considerate here as many fall into the I have mine first screw everyone else mindset|0 Hey man Romneycare was not the most red piece of legislature ive seen He might be a republican but he does seem to at least have some sense of what basic needs to be taken care of for a capitalistic economy to function Turns out basic healthcare and a safety net are pretty key|1 More than a 24 hour lag I know of 2 cases in two different towns that are more than 24 hrs old|0 Most people in retail dont make enough money to just skip out on work at will Even with good reasons like a pandemic|1 Oh yeah It started because Trump said it was a democratic hoax and all the famous Republican politicians are parroting it Even now Its INSANE I also read something from a pastor who said that the virus may be real And the exponential growth is concerning And then two paragraphs later said this was a way for the government to gauge Americans reactions to be compliant with a take over Its absolutely delusional|0 Impatient reddit Downvotes before readingwatching etc|0 Ill have you know that my brother had computers that suffered from this problem many times reeeeeee|0 Useful image from the link below What symptoms should you selfisolate for and for how longhttpsamplbccoukhottopicscoronavirussymptomsselfisolateofficialadvicecovid19|1 I was giving an example There could be lot of gray areas|1 The evidence is that early is better in this regard httpspbstwimgcommediaES2e5bXkAAr2yZjpghttpspbstwimgcommediaES2e5bXkAAr2yZjpg|1 Following rule 15 we need an English translation in the comments Thanks|1 A few random people said they would go get a little more stuff just in case but seemed to be saying so to be polite My parents were skeptical but listened to me thank goodness One person called me from the store to ask me what I thought she should buy The rest looked at me like I was crazy and said the flu kills more people I heard someone call me crazy behind my back Guess whose relaxing while everyone else is going crazy Thats right|0 You want real tin foil hat time Its always been predicted we would ask to be controlled more If we end up asking for a world government then Yeah get the tin foil out|1 Plague of Justinian is the most interesting one to me Maybe because so little Is known about it|1 Its price gouging when regular people sell scarce resources When medical companies do it its regular business regardless of how many people die because they cant afford it Crony capitalism|0 Because everyone thinks they are invincible and will just ride this out at home Unfortunately almost everyone I know is still going out in public risking exposure|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 Yeah right Lol|1 Eventually people are going to run out of money and probably pretty quickly You see people buying 300 of groceries and 200 of alcohol thats not sustainable for long|1 Healthcare still hasnt broke down in italy well at least till yesterday that I know Patients arent being held in proper ICUs anymore in the sense that they are repurposed rooms but equipments and doctors should be there with great efforts We have a higher death rate because we really have an old population|1 An extremely large hospital in the US has hundreds of beds Nowhere near that many ventilators Of course crowds like that could happen here but I think many would be told to stay home and would understand the dangers associated with mingling in a crowd like that I would think|0 I cant understand why people are disagreeing with your points They clearly mess up time after time|0 Like a previous commenter said nobody knows how a hospital works unless they work in one Of course like anywhere else your income can be largely dependent on your location but this career has given me great life over the past 12 years It has given me independence and the means to travel all over the world not only because Im well paid but because I can manipulate my schedule to have 8 days off every 2 without without using any PTO Your former boss was flat out wrong The job outlook according to the bureau of labor and statistics is a 21 increase over the next decade A median salary of 60k is just that median Work in the northeast in or near a city which is my experience your salary will be closer to 100k httpswwwblsgovoohhealthcaremobilerespiratorytherapistshtm|1 Ha he thought were the same person its hilarious |1 Yup Im in a metropolitan areas as well I train to school everyday|1 Do you really believe this or are you just trolling I can understand how people think global warming is fake or the world is flat but this is a new level of idiocy|0 Awesome Thank you|1 So Theyre a single party state whose party has a communist name just like ChinaCongrats on your first comment in 27 days btw|1 Lmfao this is great Poor dudes never gonna forget this same with the folks in quarantine|1 Theres no if it will 100 be called off|0 Article is behind a paywall cN you share link|1 I dont know man its been 12 days since he had recovered if he was already sick when he left he would had shown symptoms days before that I think its very possible that he was reinfected and if thats the case this whole situation is 10 times worse|0 We can do boosters It basically means periodically repeating the vaccine There are some vaccines that have low immunogenicity meaning that they do not stimulate the immune system very strongly and the induced immune response fades quickly For example the typhoid fever vaccine must be repeated every two yearsIts not atoo big deal|0 Thats even more unhinged No one thinks that The man is a paranoid delusional speed freak and has totally botched this Maga people I know are not taking this serious because of his attitude|0 Spring break for the University of Florida 50k students starts tomorrow Dont know about the rest of the states universities and colleges but we are the states major land grant institution|1 Lol|1 I really doubt it works that way The viruses arent related at allReally for any parent the mortality rates should be rather soothing Especially knowing that the real mortality is probably several times lowerThere has not been a single recorded case of someone under nine dyingYou also have daughter And this virus mostly seems to have beef with menhttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina51540981httpswwwbbccomnewsworldasiachina51540981|0 I have a cunning plan I intend to survive Me My family we will surviveThen when the dust settles Well tool up get a set of like minded survivors start carving out a new country Whos with me|1 My deductible is around 7500 I call it my in case I get hit by a bus fund Its quite ridiculous and depressing Plus 330 a month for the plan|0 Bruhh china is on watchlist Americans for some long time now I think soon usa will do something about them for example giving them democracy|1 fuck the 1Please dont insult the 1 Without them youd be nothing remember trickledown economics The more wealth is disproportionally distributed the richer the losers in the scheme will be Simple logic So shut up and enjoy your breadcrumbs you unthankful halfwits|1 Those people would be in for a hell of a debate|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Dont know why someone down voted you for a reasonable comment I am riding it out in China no masks or food beyond what I normally have around My main concern is this getting lose in SouthEast Asia Africa India If those places get the case load Wuhan is experiencing such that all 60 of their fairly modern hospitals are filled to the brim with critical cases it will be the humanitarian crisis of the century We are right on a razor edge right now and I dont see the necessary action The history books are going to have some harsh words for this one|0 UW student here I really appreciate the universitys transparency with all the students and faculty members Administration has been sending out regular emails updating everyone on the actions that the university has been taking These emails have been informative and honest I wish the rest of our government would be able to perform this wayAnother thing to point out is that there are three UW campuses in total and all three campuses have closed inperson classes I appreciate the precautions that my school is taking and I hope to see this thought process across not only the rest of our state but the rest of the countryStay safe out there and best of wishes|1 Interesting The steroids thing came to mind because the Iranians were treating COVID19 with corticosteroids at some point and I remember Dr John saying that he thought that should only be a kind of lastditch treatmentHmmm These references indicate its not a good idea to treat COVID19 with corticosteroidshttpswwwcontagionlivecomnewsisthereanyreasontousecorticosteroidsincoronavirustreatmenthttpswwwuptodatecomcontentscoronavirusdisease2019covid19I guess at the moment I will continue to take them to deal with my underlying issue and just selfisolate I am currently on a leave from work so luckily I can do so|1 Any names Just uh asking for a friend|1 Four reasons why summertime has less respiratory viruses More sun more UV uv kills viruses on surfaces and in air Viruses generally die faster in warmer air People get more vitamin D to support immune system in summer People outside more and less in enclosed spaces Im not saying summer stops it entirely but there is a lot of reason to hope that it will slow down|1 Whats the real number in China|1 Nah Rush Limbaugh already got it|0 Theyre listening to the MSM telling them not to panic its just a flu Bloody sheeple|0 Xiaomi is really a good fuckin phone Ive had the 8 lite for almost a year Its legit better than any iPhone or other Android Ive had Sometimes China does things right|1 When asked if you have any health conditions it might be common there to list mental health conditions such as anxiety although this implies that they were previously physically healthy although they are all elderly|1 and eating from the same dish that 40 000 festive event |1 Are you just here to trollAmericans have no fucking idea whats happening in China because there is state censorship The few videos that make it out and show the true extent of the pandemic were taken by people who risked their lives to get these videos outAnd you have nothing better to do than act like a troll|0 Not to get too political on this subreddit but the problem with the criticisms levied against Cuomo in general that I hear is that they always fall into two camps1 He isnt liked in NYC2 He isnt liked by NY RepublicansAs a person who lives upstate that isnt a Republican if there was a Democratic challenger that had any substance at all then I could see him being replaced but in the last election his only major contender was a sex and the city actress who only talked about NYC problems and had no experience as an elected officialJust some thoughts|0 I am glad you dont understand She lives in Utah which occasionally has air quality that is the worst in the world There is a cost I call you bullshit and just for shits and giggleshttpsimagesappgoogl6RHWSEUNb464XMe6A This happens HERE|0 Im wondering if those 900 cases under investigation means people who have symptoms but have not officially been able to get testedBc right now people that have symptoms but have not travelled or had contact with a confirmed COVID case cannot get tested noON top of that as of today even those that travelled and have symptoms will not be able to get tested They would definitely be in the cases under investigationSoI wouldnt be surprised if those 900 cases a big portion or maybe most are definitely positive but just cant get tested because of the stupid criteria|1 We have but youre right itll get much worse|0 Shot through the heart and COVIDs to blame baby you give 2019nCoV a bad name|0 Thanks for continuing to care about us That means a lot|1 Hype with lies and hype with facts are drastically different and one leads to complacency Guess which one is about to result in a lot of death|0 Virus bad but dont tell them|0 From what I can gather an Iranian Vice President would be like a secretary in the US|1 100 agreed I have no idea just how bad it is because theres a lack of testing So I will prepare for the worst and hope for the best Maybe its already everywhere and people are spreading asymptomatically Then itll be like another 3 weeks before they actually go to the hospital because its just a flu you dont need to get tested is currently the messaging for not having enough tests|0 Idiots know no borders|0 Well unfortunately our government has been taken over by greedy selfish Oligarchs sons of bitches so they can care less if we all die especially if its the same demographic of people who raise their tax billsThats what happens in a country where people love money and hate eachother|0 Good thinking to everyone who pulled their kid from school|1 You used it right not sure why it didnt want to remind you |0 I will say after a week at home with my five year old we were both feeling crazy enough that I decided to risk a park nearby that I know is almost always totally empty Never seen more than one or two other kids there at a time so I figured under the circumstances it should be okay It was P A C K E D Kiddo and I were both v cranky|0 Yeah but their govt is willing to do whatever it takes and we dont have kits and have a president who insinuated its a hoax|0 Thank you You too|1 If shit hits the fan and you are a fat fuck every single coworker and fairweather acquaintance you blabbered about fat fucking to is going to come a knocking at your door|0 So like does that extend to none Canadians living in Canada too |1 I cant stand it I am not of the mind that this is the precipice of true collapse but I know its certainly a step towards such People havent yet complained about me closing my bar as we have no cases here but I fear if the other places dont take heed it wont matter|0 Great cause the 3000 other sites werent covering it|1 I am sorry to hear that you are now illI hope that you do not have the virusMy thoughts and well wishes are with you|1 AC is not common in the UK and probably the rest of Northern Europe because it doesnt get that warm in summer and its only hot about 3 months a year With businesses its maybe 5050|0 We shouldnt try to nuke every bacteria in viccinity true but that doesnt mean people with an active harmful virus currently in their systems should be openly coughing on everyone Im probably one of the least germaphobic people out there but if I get sick you bet Im going to do my best not to transfer it to other people and if I find myself next to someone whos sick my hands wont be coming anywhere near my face until I get away from that person and wash my hands|1 Bad words|0 httpswwwstatistacomstatistics755052populationofthenetherlandsbyageandgender60 of the population is under 50 years old Older people know they are at greater risk and less likely to go out as a result my opinion on top of the fact that there are more young people working than old That and the fact that you can be under 50 and immunocompromised or have some other condition diabetes high blood pressure heart disease that makes you more vulnerable to the virus I think this news is a bit misleading tbh|0 The big thing is slowing it down Even if the same number of people get infected in every scenario lowering the overall peak and reducing the burden on the hospitals will be enormous to save lives|0 Keep that in mind and use it to motivate you to be involved in politics Freedom is way more fragile than we realize|1 Thrre are many many things before this they shoud havr been hung for loding the dossier on elites child sexual exploitation being one thing that was largrly ignored by the public|0 I think it varies quite a bit In the case of SARS I believe superspreader incidents involved severe diarrhoea that very swiftly spread the virus around buildingsOther times superspreaders have particularly strong coughs and viral shedding but are still mobile and therefore travel about and spread the virus through interactions|1 REAL runpopularopinion aheadKilling off baby boomers and older generations who otherwise would totally defund social security|1 Thanks|1 And what a horrible anticipation it wasFilled with impatience and shame|0 We all stay home for a month and the world will collapse no one to farm food no one to mine coal or run power plants no one to staff hospitals for other emergencies like heart attacks or strokes Everything you use is a product of human labor and the world doesnt have enough stockpiles of every little thing to stop production for a month|0 Could someone please share the YouTube live link FOUND IT httpsmyoutubecomwatchvyWgL0wsfCAc|1 Thanks were trying Just going out to walk our dog a bit in the park far from people and for essential groceries The situation is just surreal|1 If 2 of lots of people die wouldnt it still be awful Well no shit it would be awful|0 Your post was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Yes because of yes|1 I mean if you think about it you should not go to places wich was crowded before like please just stay at home and spread the word 1 person can spread it to 20 and 20 can 100 in a day|1 San Diegan here Several covid patients returning from China were treated at some of our medical centers a while back and apparently the medical staff wasnt given adequate protective gear to handle it I have a coworker who studies at one of the hospitals here and she told me she was way more worried about the flu and waved it off When I told her what the mainstream news apparently hasnt been reporting the r0 rate the lack of CDC leadership the length of time this shit can survive on a surface etc she was STUNNED No one at the hospitals are wearing masks or seem to be tuned in to how dangerous this situation is No one has enough information Ive been encouraging my friends to hit up Costco ASAP to beat the panic waves Some have listened most havent At this point Im just strapped in and waiting for the storm|0 Im 61 Chronic bronchitis Im probably dead But I will fight it all the way Fuck your coronavirus|0 In this case the patient said he had O symptoms then the anesthesiologist noticed a temp while measuring vitals I assume and then tested him I dont think the procedure was performed but hes being charged for lying about symptoms and exposing the surgical team|0 I can also assure you that when you see young people who end up intubated in the ICU pronated or worse in ECMO a machine for the worst cases which extracts the blood reoxygenates it and returns it to the body waiting for the lungs to hopefully heal all this confidence for your young age goes away httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsffjzu8youngpeopleareatriskaccordingtothethishttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsffjzu8youngpeopleareatriskaccordingtothethis|1 Ya fuck youre right Ill just see myself to the incinerator now|0 Thanks friendly redditor from North Carolina|1 I know how you feel My insta story feed is just filled with people attending events with hundreds of others Mind you I live in NYCNJ so we have dozens of cases and state of emergency declared in NY No one seems to care just going about attending comedy shows and clubs with hundreds of others |1 There have to be some fig leaf options here If what China cares about is keeping Taiwan out fuck that If Chinas willing to settle for letting Taiwan enter as a de facto full member but with some sort of special phrasing or title OK fineThe question Im guessing isnt whether the WHO or Taiwan are willing to use that sort of fig leaf its whether China is|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 This behaviour stems from a lack of educationknowledge They are still a developing country I would give them 50 more years to catch up|0 A family member of mine told me this they are basically one of 12 people over a 3 state area that are in place ready to deal with all this if it gets bad|0 Id get tested to stay on the safe side if I were you|1 Lets be honest One side is much more willing to listen to scientists than the other|1 Its not really a cut off OP just used 60 Among the 60 plus numbers vary a lot It gets real bad 80 bad 70 and still not that bad 6070|0 Generally Id like to see point of lockdown and the wash out period on these traps too For many people it simply looks as if lockdown doesnt work It does after a week|1 Just to put this in perspective The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 swine flu virus 265000 were hospitalized as a result and 12000 died in 20092010|0 Yep organizers wont cancel unless the city advises them to do so A part of me makes me wonder what would happen if 75 of their sponsorscompanies hosting events within it pulled out|1 Agreed please send em over I can pay my library to make them too we need to help the people all over the world|1 Its such a shit show right now Message If thats cool|0 Grab the essential oils and healing crystals we be healing in this bitch|0 With what our health system charges theres really no good reason whatsoever for running out of PPEs Our doctors and nurses get paid like 3x or more than those in other countries and literally everything is marked up PPEs are pennies for a system that should be rolling in money We need to ask what the hell is going on Only good explanation would be supply chain but why can other countries do better|1 Proud owner of xeriscaped yard also supports you|1 To be clear they only mean contain it within the solar system Earth is fucked|0 Tldr dont trust those dummy experts we anonymous internet strangers are gooder at science|0 This just proves that all pandemic movies are lies There is no way that anyone could stop a zombie like pandemic they wouldnt even try|0 No it isnt look at the contract every servicemen and women sign when they enlist|0 Because the 1 has taken over our government and can care less if the peasants die All u have to do is compare this countries reaction to other countries to see where its priorities lye|0 lol the fact you are getting downvoted to hell just means theres a shitload of conspiracy theorists in this sub|0 WTF Neurotic complaining because most of the people are not as neurotic as him Nice|0 Thats awful people who didnt have it will be infected by those who do Theyd be better telling people to isolate themselves at home or something|0 Same here Neighbours came back from Austria and are sick now no testing since no contact with a confirmed case Stay strong and try again they have to allow us to get tested at some point|0 The problem is that every measure is at least a week behind because it takes time for symptoms to present All these cases were likely infected prior to the containment measures and we probably have several more days before we even see the impact of quarantine|0 Oh you contracted a disease due to your government not caring about your life and leaving you to die to save a few Benjamins Better fork over 3 grand for good measure fucko|1 incomprehensible chain of unclear failures How I read it the first time incomprehensible chain of nuclear failuresMe Yeah that fitsEdited I hate mobile|0 if the CDC isnt responsible for doing what it was created to do then who is responsible for tallying that and what the fuck is the CDCs purpose thenLiterally tracking this shit is one of the reasons the CDC exists|0 I know right GodTODD UGH|0 Thats orange my man At least me and my spouse thought so but after lots of research it looks like its just a very bright version of redhttpswwwcolorhexacomf02d26httpswwwcolorhexacomf02d26|1 Duterte treatment if they refuse|0 Remember when you told me basic biology disproved the idea that the coronavirus could be genetically modified and then ignored my request for you to explain exactly what that means|0 God damn Mongolians Always building up my shitty wall|0 Damn Good for themQuestion though what if you are related or married and live together Would it matter at that point Are you safe from being finedarrested in that instance|1 This sub is a joke My comment dealt strictly with policy it had nothing to do with politics And it was directly relevant insofar as it was comparing American measures to contain the virus to South Korean measures Ill stick with the coronavirus subs that dont engage in needless censorship from now on|0 When they refuse to test its a policy faultWake up they didnt have working tests and didnt want to admit Thats the conspiracy not to hide the outbreak but to hide their incompentence|0 I dont think him having gone to Italy is that much of a difference probably The virus is pretty much everywhere by now it seems Italy is just the country that admitted it first in Europe|1 You shouldnt be ashamed because thats what normal people do Its people that think a random United States Chinese restaurant is unsafe over the corona virus that should be ashamed|1 Real question Do we know if all ethnicities are impacted equally Plenty of virus are harder on one or the other For Africas sake I hope this rumor ends up with some truth to it|1 And yet people wearing masks are actually safe to interact with people who do not may be a walking virus dispenser|1 Theyre not saying they think rent should be driven up Its an explanation as to why landlords turn their units into Airbnbs when legally allowed to|1 Congratulations your comment used all the letters in the alphabet|1 I live in southwest Ohio near Cincinnati and every time I bring it up I get told the flu is worse and Im being paranoid|0 You will be fine I just wrote a piece on pregnant women and infants and coronavirus today Treat it like the flu and everything else observe good hygiene and avoid sick people Mothers without already complicated or high risk pregnancies have little to fear Infants should never be purposefully exposed to diseases but babies and small children are the least likely to catch the virus and typically experience mild symptoms or no symptoms at all Breastfeeding has been observed to give the baby healthy antigens and does not transmit the virus Youre good fam Relax and take care of yourself and the new one Edit httphealthusnewscomconditionsarticleshowdoesthecoronavirusaffectchildrenandinfants|1 And now 53 The hell|0 Service people and artists will lose a lot of income and likely lose their jobs miss rent payments andor go homeless At the least their lost income would result in other untreated medical cases so overall it is likely that cancellation did more harm than goodAt some point it is probably okay for people to get the coronavirus vs the devastation to the low income folks and those who live paycheck to paycheck|0 Ah the true fake numbers If you dont test you shouldnt guess|0 In your Youtube app under the video in the middle there should be an arrow next to the thumbs up and thumbs down that says share If you press that you should be able to copy the link then post it hereDid you mean this one httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv2U1YoKujYeY|1 Oh dont believe a word he says on it I can just about guarantee you hes been tested It would be insane for any world leader who had possible exposure to not be immediately tested Hell never admit to it though Gotta keep the tough guy act up|0 Lets hear it for the press coming together to follow up on the questions their colleagues get cut off on|0 This isnt a surgical strike Its also going to take out a bunch of folks who never hurt anyone Never gloat over the death of anyone Theres a poem that says in part as you are now so once was I as I am now so will you be prepare yourselves to follow me|0 Why is the CDC even involved Have you heard about the flu and how it already kill 1 trillion people|0 I am totally ignorant on this subject so excuse the stupid question but is this definitely safe|1 Yesterday I overclocked to save frames Today I overclock to save lives|1 I wonder how much warm clothes would help unless you wore a scarf covering your nose and mouth and eyes otherwise I expect they would be at about the same temperature as without warm clothes and they are the primary points of contagion But that matters less because outside you can usually keep away from people anyway The idea about warm humid spaces indoors seems a good one and not that difficult to implement|1 Do you think we should go on lockdown like Italy or we should just act the same as we are nowGood luck from United Kingdom |1 Dont worry Drumpf is cutting CDC funding so less people Will be panicking|0 Any damage preventive measures would do if they are properly enforced too late already likely will be miniscule compared to the economic damages the virus going pandemic will do very stupid in my opinion to take a gamble on this to not harm the economy while risking giving the economy a way stronger kick in the balls The average human is reactive and only starts panicking when its already too late but the WHO adapting that same mindset to wait and see instead of nipping everything in the bud and burning it to ashes is at best incredibly incompetent and at worst malicious Take into consideration that the WHO trust in chinas official numbers a country known for covering up plenty atroceties madness and stupidity|0 This seems to be about virus survival on surfaces in the air not in the body The reason Im particularly curious about general ways of reducing viral load is that this MERS mouse study seems to suggest that initial virus dose has a dramatic impact on outcomeshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed26446606 Mice given 100 times TCID50 for MERS all died For a dose of 1000x TCID50 the mice experienced extreme weight loss before death For a dose of 10x TCID50 3 of the 8 mice survived at least 21 days end of the experiment and the dying mice lasted a bit longer For a dose of 5x TCID50 34 mice survived For a dose of 25x TCID50 44 mice survived For a dose of 125x TCID50 34 mice survivedThey later challenged the lowdosesurviving mice with a dose of 1000x TCID50 and all of them lived even ones which had not shown any obvious symptoms including one who failed to exhibit a serum antibody response My speculation is that people who can keep viral load down for the first few days or week of catching covid19 might end up giving themselves a better chance of avoiding the pneumonia heartbrain infection etc that make this virus so deadly|1 They are almost certainly protected for some time since the only way they beat the disease was their immune system winning Its just that no one knows how long the immunity lasts But probably at least 36 months When a test to screen for antibodies is invented I expect that people who think they caught a mild case and recovered will be tested and these people will be asked to return to work andor aid in recovery efforts|1 Can confirm am Oklahoman did not vote for him He wanted to make us a top 10 state and he seems to be trying his hardest to make us a top 10 state in Coronavirus cases|1 Good bot|1 Im in a different country but I wanted to ask about how I should go about donating protective equipment to first responders There are still masks for sale in my area often at great expense but theyre still available I have considered buying these and donating to the local police or hospital But how should I do this Simply walk into the local station and say here you go Am I going to get laughed out Will the get thrown into trash because theyre not from an approved source Any recommendations|1 Good point theres something to be said for a coordinated international response if some countries go for herd immunity via natural infection while others want to suppress and wait for the vaccine then essentially the two types of areas shouldnt have free travel until a vaccine is available which grants equal immunity to all areas|1 Theres an in vivo test as well that showed similar resultsZinc and pyrithione inhibit nidovirus replication in vivoIts just down a bit right after the intro|0 These phases are such bullshit This virus is spreading rapidly and the nhs criteria isnt allowing the vast majority to be tested for it so it will keep spreading The gov plan is clearly to wave the white flag a month ago and hope for the best The rest is just noise|1 Hes an older man its not out of the ordinary to have an regular benign cough Edit just saw the edit and agree|1 People at the 40 BMI and up range likely already have breathing problems cant climb a flight of stairs without becoming red in the face and short of breath due to their weight Sleep apnea is a common issue and many need a CPAP at night Throw a respiratory disease into all that and things arent going to go well|0 They hate Christians because they were born fatherless|0 I had similar thinkingan overcrowded world with humans who are ruining the planet mother nature rules overso mother nature strikes backshe has done this in the pastthat doesnt mean you shouldnt protect yourself and others untreatable killing illnesses isnt new for nature Humans should learn more to care and it starts with each individual and with a political world working togetheralongside but thats just UtopiaI knowdreamingwhileinquarantaine|0 Wanna quarantine together See if this Corona thing is as romantic as theyre all saying|1 Damn thatsreally insightful|0 Not all hospitals are created equally Its more likely your county hospital would be swamped with these cases than othersId be shocked if the county hospital ED was empty|0 Lots of early travel from Wuhan to Shanghai this will be a city very strained for resources and dealing with more cases than average Beijing will be better protected and just as well connected all other things being equal|1 well i basically havent catched anything in the last 20 years meaning my immune system should be good but at the same time last thing i caught 20 years ago was a viral pneumonia lucky me This is gonna be interesting|1 Absolutely this would create drastic and negative changes but we will have no choice but to adapt Also we cant predict the future Imagine if you spent all this time worrying I am too btw Terrified honestly and the worst DOESNT happen Then you absolutely spent those months torturing yourself for nothing Something I try to remind myself is worrying will not change the outcome period No amount of research Googling and being informed will change anything obviously besides social distancing and doing our part lol It scares me to think this way at first but it gives me an odd calming feeling knowing that there is nothing I can do other than my best|0 Sounds like it could be my hospital Im a bedside nurse at at hospital that means your description|1 Keep your chin up and your head down chemo is a time to be avoiding people at the best of times but right now and for the foreseeable future it is imperative|1 Dude your roommate is right Just stay home and collect unemployment if you get fired|0 This is what austerity and weak central government gets you slow reaction and illpreparedness|0 I just saw my parents this weekend Foolishly and stubbornly flew from CA to the midwest Stayed away from them and used sanitizer like it was my religion Yesterday I went to lunch with my mom She admitted that she knows if she gets this shes going to die She has no plan to change behaviors or social plans My dad has cardiac disease Im terrified that I took covid19 back to them even though Ive felt fine havent been around infected or exposed folks But it will linger in my brain for another month at least|0 Like 14090|1 Fair enough if youre stopping ALL travel I guessed you were advocating for stopping all passenger flights to China The economic impacts of stopping all flights and deliveries would be huge China is the worlds factory and cutting it off would cripple the worlds hospitals Right now the only reason we are coping is because our hospitals are well equipped Cut off commerce and were back to the stoneage No countrys hospitals are self sustaining|0 Anyone in self quarantine should be given one of thos eankle bracelets that criminals get|0 They are treating them but the virus is already rampant in the prison system Its to make sure that the visitors themselves dont get it and to keep everything as quarantined as possible at this point|0 As a smoker you are at a higher risk for all respiratory infections not just C19 Not judging Im a former smoker myself But this has been known for decades|0 Yes they come and go Especially the fever|1 Good luck I cant seem to get this to load on my computer If there is an app please share Im in Tianjin and would like to see where exactly people are sick I know someone in my apartment complex was|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake|0 There are plenty of liberals on here that havent said anything political Claiming the contrary weakens your argument|0 Yeah if you do thishttpsyoutubevLdwCdyiDCwAnd thishttpswwwtheatlanticcomphoto202003photoslargescaledisinfectioneffortsagainstcoronavirus607810|1 Ive been forcing my family to prep the whole time They wouldnt believe me now Its hitting them one by one that its real Theyre grateful for the work I did but now Im doing more work to support them through the realization of whats happening Id like to get carried through this a little too|1 True In Denmark they are expecting 10 to get infected|0 Good If more people took the time to reflect on their own assumptions like you just did wed be in a better situation|1 You wont hear about it you have to search that shit out|0 They are paying sick workers to stay home|0 Its Blumenthal hes a sack of shit regardless|0 Its ok sorry I thought I was responding to someone else who seemed to be denying something I saidSorry was a bit sharp thereBut yeah the schools and universities are now shut and non essential public worker staff told to stay at homeI think the pressure is now too much not to take similar steps in the UK If Denmark is doing it then no reason why we cant|0 I mean if a country reacted around Jan Jan 20th and then still got fucked then yes Chinas fault Because you did everything and if China said earlier than you can do more But if you didnt do shit in Jan didnt do shit in Feb and just start in March what are you bitching|0 It was to undersell it to WHO so they wouldnt declare global emergency of national concern A handful of other countries pretty much gave WHO the finger and said doesnt matter if you declare it or not we are already treating it as such emergency regardless|1 My parents sent it to me a week ago I told them while it may be true for most doesnt change the fact that hospitals will be overrun He is incredibly influential Walk it back dude|1 Have you not clicked the one on the post lmao|1 They prepared for a disaster with kn known end with broken supply chains You just tra la laed along doing normal shopping Now you are stunned You shouldnt be|0 Uhm those two things are mutually exclusive|1 If I miss rent for a month I get a week before a warning eviction notice pops up on my door another week and I am legally no longer allowed on the premises After that happens I am going to be out in the public anyways except also just straight up homeless|0 Yup Initially this is absolutely the case but once hospitals are beyond capacity the mortality rate increases and lower age brackets become more likely to die due to lack of treatmentThis is why it is so important to stop it before it is too late The US is what2 weeks or so behind Italys progression of their outbreak Its likely gonna get pretty bad in the next couple weeks for the US Then the real panic will begin|0 38 weeks Planned csection Terrified about how this is going to play out|0 We also have to account for age differences My impression is that Those infected who are outside of China are younger people I could be wrong though|0 I am hearing that it does not help to wear a mask Do you think it is worth doing|0 Just stop with plague jokes|0 I believe he went to the ER as well never go to the ER unless you are dying Stupid poor people go to the ER for dumb crap that can wait or be handled by Urgent Care if its a big deal I recently took an old friend who is a homeless alcoholic addict to an Urgent Care He hasnt had a real job in many years but he gets hurt a lot as is normal with being homeless I was in disbelief that he had FREE government sponsored healthcare His main complaint is that it only covers 30 days of prescriptions before he has to start shelling out 34 for generic There are safety nets but if you go to work and make money you dont get as much free stuff as people who dont work at all|1 Your comment puts everyone in their 60s as set for life That is far from the truth What about the trust fund babies who dont have to work for a living and are in their 20s You gonna be pissed at them too There will always be someone who is wealthier than you There will also be someone who is poorer than you Thats just life|1 Yeah good fucking luck with that I promise you will still receive a bill and waste hours trying to dispute it|1 The ship case is significant Its fully observable event with over 600 cases maybe 1000 in total|1 Uh he claimed he got only a 28 GPA in Communication Trust me writing with that style eg of casing and punctuation requires a very high attention to detail Doesnt fit at all|1 This is similar to what happened to my lungs Got an infection at 34 then spent some quality time on a ventilator I was in outstanding shape and it took me years to get it back|1 Is Trump speaking tonight about it live In what channel Sorry not originally from the US|0 And who brought the Spanish Flu to EuropeOr all the diseases to the native Americans|0 I mean obviously Im generalizing If no one in China valued pets there wouldnt be any pets to talk about let alone people trying to rescue them|1 Wellmy dream is to open a tea house here in the mountains isnt tea illegal there|1 What would a hospital do with the infected laundry if they normally send it out to be processed|0 If this read at least 40 then I think we would all be in agreement We dont know the true denominator and we wont for a good long while|0 Visit some former socialist countries Goggle Bitterfeld which is in the former socialist part of Germany So capitalist societies seem to have had much better environmental protections in place|1 Thats not how statistics workWhen the sample size is low ie 1 in this case the sample will almost never reflect the general population Think about coin flips you flip a coin 5 times Its totally possible to flip heads 5 times in a row even though its unlikely This doesnt mean that a coin flip isnt a 5050 chance though if you flipped 500 coins you would almost certainly get a result like 265 heads and 235 tails Its completely possible for Iran to have 5 cases have all of them die and the true mortality rate of the infected population still be 2 Its just random chance that 5 of those cases happened to be in one geographic location There are other issues with biased sampling if youre trying to determine population parameters from one country as well but thats a separate issue|0 Clearly you havent spent enough time on this sub then|1 This lady is gonna get strung up if shes not careful Oh and I could swear Ive seen pictures of her wearing a mask recently What a shit human|0 Which could make someone spiral into a catch 22 of stressing about stressing too much|0 To be fair it is the interpretation of the Constitutional amendment directly from one of the men whose name is signed on the document|1 Still wouldnt trust a communist governmentThe issue I keep seeing is that people keep assuming that Chinas issues came down to communism and thats why it was so bad there But as Ive been saying China has a communist government No rational person could call Chinas economy communist or even socialist Theyre a part of the neoliberal capitalist world market As are we Were all going to put profits over people because of it China is just in a better place to reverse course Our governments are completely at the whim of big business so we arent afforded the same luxury|0 Thanks I worked at Starbucks|1 Yeah but this is very different from a WFH policy This is a promise to pay hourly workers even if their hours are cut Hourly workers at Microsoft are workingclass people in jobs like food service and sanitation They almost universally cannot work from home and theyre living economicallyprecarious lives in a highcostofliving area so this is a huge help to a lot of people who would otherwise be screwed|1 Or maybe the person adding nothing to the conversation is the guy showing up and calling everyone retard Let me guess if I show up on your posts and call you a retard then I would not be adding to the conversation|0 Unfortunately its not possible Im the regional manager here Have to be present every day If something comes up well close the place until further notice Hope its not the case|1 I got lectured last week at the grocery store by some Trumper who told me it was all an overblown hoax He said it with such hubris while bagging my groceries|0 But the pharmacy is where Id expect to see sick people Its responsible to wear a mask when youre sickI have a mild cough and sneezing and I was in a mask when I went to pick up Mucinex yesterday No one teased that I heard The checkout clerk just seemed concernedEdit this was up in CT We know we have it in our community|0 Dont your tips get reportedIm in the service industry and Im completely off the books Small restaurant Im just fucked if something happens|0 We didnt win by having the government confiscate thingsYES WE DIDFucking read a history bookPresident FDR was about as far from a Libertarian as you can get|0 Since the method that this virus uses to enter human cells is by attaching to the enzyme ACE2 and two drugs used to treat hypertension Linsopril and Losartan an ACEinhibitor drug and angiotensinreceptor blocker increase the production of ACE2 Would it be reasonable if you are currently taking one of these drugs to switch to another medication during this outbreak to reduce risk of serious complications of COVID19Heres a link to someone that asked the question with much more detail httpswwwbmjcomcontent368bmjm810rr2httpswwwbmjcomcontent368bmjm810rr2 This is where I read about the ACE2 entry httpswwwlivesciencecomhowcoronavirusinfectscellshtmlhttpswwwlivesciencecomhowcoronavirusinfectscellshtml|1 when is the last time that they locked down a city for something that is under control and less dangerous than a common flu |0 Yeah Im personally the least atrisk of all my family but Id worried AF for my kids pregnant wife 60 parents and inlaws 85 yo grandparents We could be in for a rough time I wish people would stop telling me to relax because Im young fit and healthy|1 I think the problem is China wont share any information or blood sample So recreate the virus is faster then wait someone get infected and recover in another civilized countryFor what i read China continue to refuse help from USA and they started to offer it at 9 January|0 The US is worst because you have to pay when you go to the doctor so people will avoid it if they think its just a flu|0 Is that true for people without symptoms or with mild symptoms|1 Does it slightly more frequently than most republicans God what Trump has done for the reputation of Romney McCain and even Bush at least with the left|1 If only they acted like this a month ago when the signs were all there Youd think they would have learned from previous outbreaks|1 Its hard to get fruits and veggies which keep fresh for over a month And it has to stay that way outside of a fridge because that quantity does not fit into a fridge Oranges mandarins dirty unwashed potatoes carrots cabbage beets That sort of stuff might be able to handle that|0 Care to eat your words It survives up to 9 days And dont even reply unless you have a source httpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463pdfhttpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463pdf Most data were described with the endemic human coronavirus strain HCoV 229E On different types of materials it can remain infectious for from 2 hours up to 9 days A higher temperature such as 30C 86 degrees F my comment or 40C 104 degrees my comment reduced the duration of persistence of highly pathogenic MERSCoV TGEV and MHV However at 4C 39 degrees F persistence of TGEV and MHV can be increased to 28 days Few comparative data obtained with SARSCoV indicate that persistence was longer with higher inocula Table I In addition it was shown at room temperature that HCoV229E persists better at 50 compared to 30 relative humidity 8 |1 level 3Quernit2 points 1 day ago edited 1 day agoNah the global infection numbers arent calculated the same way At the moment the confirmed diagnosis for this virus is based on a medical assessment either a test for the virus itself or a formal clinical diagnosisThe 01 case fatality rate OP cites for seasonal flu isnt deaths as a proportion of diagnoses its deaths as a proportion of estimated prevalence being 19 million in the US in the article linked by OPIf you treat the case fatality rate of seasonal flu as deaths number of formally diagnosed patients it would look a lot worse because the denominator would be a lot smaller than 19 millionTheres actually a reference to this in OPs own article which was intended to support their point that the case fatality rate is far higher than that of seasonal fluThough some healthcare professionals and analysts believe the number of coronavirus cases to be much higher which would mean a lower mortality rateI think were going to find that the mortality number is going to be lower Lighter said There is more than likely many times that number of people that have mild cases or are asymptomaticIt may end up being comparable to a bad flu season Lighter addedour can take Italian numbers in a couple of days as they are testing the hell out of everybody who COULD be in position to be in positionx200BADIt may end up being comparable to a bad flu season Lighter addedChinese wont close factories for a bad flu season|0 Uhhh he did run from President and failed miserably Not even NY likes him|0 Woof lol I think the wealthy could use an increase regardless Especially the Mega Wealthy Looking at you Amazon boy|1 Time to ban travel out of Florida|0 Nice one Seems like a cool dude Sent him an email suggesting a change in format Layout difficult to decipher Sent him much thanks Clearly putting skills to use I thanked him perhaps more thanks would be encouraging for him Perhaps it might be an irritating pile of junk blocking his mail box Either way contact details in about tab if you wanna say thanks|1 You cant say shit if you cant test for it hoss|1 Are you one of the nurses who believes this is just a flu Ive increased my social distancing in the last month thinking of workers like you around the world I want to say you guys are the true heroes in this Thank you|1 Im in the same position with my parents theyre visiting me today Tried to dissuade them it didnt work Siblings a doctor IDK if they had a word but when I brought it up on the group chat they were silent My family tends to gaslight so I thought maybe I was overreacting but no No Im not|0 RIP lol|1 lol|1 It may be wrong but its a different kind of wrong than a belief in transcendent beings|0 Disney only ever closed because of hurricanes and on 911 so this is pretty significant|1 In such a case you would want to wear an N95 mask if you want to be really safe although those are next to useless if you dont fit them properly which usually requires a fit test and follow the guidelines to use them You can achieve the same result by washing your hands frequently with soap and water and avoiding touching your face Unless someone sneezes DIRECTLY into your mouth or nose youre not really going to get the virus unless you touch a surface with lingering germ particles and then make contact with your faceSo wash your hands|0 People in China mostly live in apartments they are usually built as projects with 48 buildings that are fenced off with security guards at the entrances that is what I mean by a compound|1 Results section table 1 Severe cases in 1549 age group 67163 41|0 Do you know Im not the bearer of the universal truth You should also use a little your brain and common sense|1 Best just keep climbing folks|1 I saw a black US politician post this as well |1 Not if everyone think its not a problem anymore and research doesnt get funding with the measures governments are taking these days I wouldnt be surprised|1 Fuck em Im in Michigan and Id be happy to have a mask to wear I started wearing nitrile gloves anytime Im going out in public a week ago I get snarky comments and laughed at Same questions whens the surgery its annoying forsure Ill gladly take overdoing it versus being careless and subjecting myself and young kids to an unnecessary illness if I can avoid it People believe whatever MSM says anyways|0 And well decontaminate in an antiseptic purple rain|1 My boss and I sat down and did some back of the envelope calculations If you assume people get only 75 as much work done at home its still cheaper than them getting sick|0 Hey lets do this this might be a tipping point in American and international class consciousness We have nothing to lose but our lungs now |1 Or medical staff like youve seen around the world by nowGo to a hospital with influenza still vastly more prevalent people come home with sars2Yes the countries where official strategy is to downplay this things are going to get very nasty|0 Our government is hiding more things as China|0 My post was meant more as a joke to your post rather than anything serious but fair point Your username is approved |1 I agree with you OP Problem being the political clowns have arrived more interested in slagging off govt and brexit than the real right now problem They havent even stopped to think whether Brexit will even happen there will be survival on the line|1 Frightening but seeming more and more likely by the day The family thingyeah wow Im so scared of the prospect of one of my parents getting infected and falling gravely ill theyre both over 60 while Im locked down and unable to drive across state lines to visit them or god forbid to say goodbye|0 The black plague was far far worse This one doesnt come close to the deadliness of the plagueAn estimated 25 of worlds population died back then Estimates of 60 of the population died within EuropePeople could die within a few days of being infected With symptoms like tumours and vomiting blood With 1918s density its quite likely 50 would have died from the black plague had it happened at that time like 900m total deathsWithout care the high end of covid19 would be about 10 So would have killed at max 180m Really really bad but a far cry from the deadliness of the plague|0 We arent a fucking babysitting service Dont you think we are concerned about definitely catching this and passing it to our elderly relatives|1 Imagine getting mad that young and healthy people ARENT the ones clogging up hospitals Chances are these people wont even need to be hospitalized let alone saved|1 Student I thought they were a professor Well need to watch how this progresses with a younger patient|1 They released you are just refusing to see it|0 It was a mistranslation muito positivo means very positive in the sense that it was going well But yeah he definitely is infected Its just statistically likely at this point|1 If its just less deadlyserious than we think Loads of infected people with very mild symptoms and are never tested|0 Good to hear Ive read several case monographs and they seemed convincing|1 Hes not truth telling If you watch the interview youll see its very likely he is referring to democrats and not the president in his response Both were mentioned in the question he was answering he just forgot to specify who he was referring to in his answer|0 Lets make this a reality Close Canadian Border and Stop the Spread of COVID19 please support and sign this petition Thanks httpswwwchangeorgCloseBorderStopSpread|1 Its true But at the same time a healthy body is so common its not exceptional But a million bucks is more uncommon more exceptional Its how you look at it|1 what a shocker keeping two coronavirus carriers on a small ship with others who didnt have it before leads to people contracting the disease oh my|0 Damn it WV I was planning on using you as an oasis from this shit storm|0 You should know that its normal practice in China to hook you up to an IV and take antibiotics when you have a simple fever I myself twistedsprained my ankle a few months ago and the doctor offered me antibiotics I literally asked him to explain how that would help and he said Chinese people like it maybe not good for foreigners lolI think an important narrative missing from all these posts is how insane Chinese people are When theyre in a slight situation related to survival|0 Your nearby churches may know of some people needing help|1 Blaming countries is counterproductive It hurts individuals who are discriminated or stereotyped and it doesnt solve the issue which is stopping Covid19 finding a cure and treating and preventing illness and death This is a medical issue so we should treat this the way the medical profession treats illness or injury No fault to anyone how they got there focus on healing Do we blame other illnesses on other countries and ethnicities No we dont and it would be unfair to do so I am hoping that the countries have the maturity to step back from reactionary emotions for the good of our world|0 Is it possible that like China korea is clamping down on personal freedoms more that Italy and Iran does Does Korea and China have a more cohesive population that is ready to sacrifice for the good of the nation vs Italy Iran USA and so on Were they some of the first to get it so the amount of cases will go up once a few weeks go by and well see just as many casespopulation that Korea and China now has Does Korea and China have a better medical system not individual hospital quality and technologydrugs available that is agile enough to get ahead of the outbreaks|1 x200B The most horrifying part of it all is when its all done and dusted he wont be held accountable for any of it Actually I think he would be if it were to happen But I dont think it is going to I believe the UK will follow the rest of Europe into some sort of lockdown by next Monday at the latest|0 My wifes a nurse she went from Im a psycho prepper overreacting australia in early Feb to did you buy up toilet paper and paracetamol last weekIt surprised me because she is hardcore nurse whos seen most everything|1 The only thing that runs faster than a cheetah with its tail on fire is a rumour in the public service Just sayin|0 Yeah I wonder how long it will take for America to learn how to follow someone elses lead|1 If you open a fresh incognito tab or guest window you dont get paywalled|1 True dont sweat it If you can socially isolate youll be good If we lockdown soon we have a chance of being like south korea or singapore|1 Thats a stretch Partisans exist everywhere sure But a majority of the public are undecidedindependents Many registered with a party are only registered so they can vote in the primaries in their state not because theyre particularly loyal to the party|1 Not a HOAX no Trumpers I know is saying its a hoax in the sense that people are not suck or not dying What many of us believe us that China is NOT telling the truth about its origin especially after they would not let people from the US Government there to hell with the investigation Many also believe this is a bio warfare Ive been saying that since the beginning We are at war|0 What a great year I picked to make my resolution get out and be more social|1 Pence was told that closing PP in southern Indiana would cause issues and did it anyway Within months there was a local epidemic of blood borne illness mainly HIVYes one of the things that makes him a shitty human being But coronavirus doesnt target people he despises so he has no reason to aid its spread|0 Actually yes thats an alternative option too But I mean Im probably not gonna spent 16 hours a day here|1 Imagine finding a sun array lolImagine finding a gas generator is easier and cheaper|1 There arent enough masks Thats the problem|0 I found this article really uncomfortable to read It seems like the symptoms are extremely distressing but by the time they get that bad its almost too late|0 They are refunding non refundable tickets if you call and ask Mention the state of emergency in fl|0 You seen him on twitter Hes been coming off like the DNC forced him to endorse Biden|1 They would join him in deliberately spreading coronavirus|1 Damn this sucks I really wanted to see my brother I cant believe how much this is virus is effecting everyone Thanks man|0 Yep A bunch of these people refused to cancel church and I cant help but channel my inner Willy Wonka no Dont stop Ironically the people very lax about taking precautions are older and in the more at risk category|0 Anyone have anything resembling actual numbers of test kits avail tests performed Preferably with the large number of extremely healthy athletes separated out of the tests performed number|1 Instructions unclear didnt need to pay Error AmToEuropeanToUnderstand|0 When it comes to health insurance its more like land of morons who vote against their own best interests in democratic elections|1 Shortage in supply for every kind of preventive action due to sanctions thats real bad |0 Hahahhahahahahahhahhhahha welcome to the other side|1 Your first statement was correct No one else has been as thorough in testing as SK they have done 109591 tests No one else outside of China comes close httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscovid19testing|0 So it will cost 50USD Not good enough|0 So theyll spread it in the prison then|0 I agree and we will I wish you all the best stay safe|1 India has it as well not in the capital but mumbai|1 If the usa really cared we would stockpile enough of these supplies for the whole country in case of emergency or disruptionwe did that during the cold war and all that stuff just sat around and became useless in our bomb shelters|0 Youre too old to work in retail lol|1 Hahaha you know what I happen to be a Chinese What I can see is people are now able to go outwith masks middle schools are going to reopen in March and hospitals are closed in Wuhan All these facts contradicts to what you said If you insist on your opinion give me evidence|1 Who said give up There is a lot of gray area in between you knowbut what you expect me to do Do you want to lend me 500 dollars so I can drive to a place with more resources|1 With something as potentially catastrophic as a virus outbreak its important to keep people calm In comparison to ebola or something its not as high risk and people should be made aware even if its difficult to precisely calculate the true risk at the moment|1 Theyre going to be knocking on your door begging for helpKnocks would be so severe the doors will break open|0 Thats it really if you are not aware of how bad youre doing its impossible to be accountable for it|0 Re US Social Distancing Efficacy and Best Practicesx200BIt seems to me social distancing is the only reasonable course of action in the US to flatten the curve so that our medical resources have a chance at keeping up How effective do you see the following measures being in the US assuming infections proceed as expected and which of these and others I may have not thought of should be implemented Furthermore how wouldcould the government encourage this behaviorx200BCanceling of large social gatherings sporting events conferences etcx200BClosing schools using distance learning where possiblex200BWorkfromhome for all businesses where this is feasiblex200BSelfisolation in the home with delivery of supplies for the infectedx200BForced isolation special onsite medical attention for assistedliving facilities and other senior communitiesx200BSome sort of outreach for the homelessdestitute populations This is the element that I have no idea how to approach|1 I dont know if you have noticed but job postings for data analystsbusiness intelligence analysts started rising around January 20th Nearly every company that is health care related is looking to add one or more positions Finance and manufacturing are the next two industries with high demand|1 Not only do people not get paid they risk losing their job when they call off sick Every company Ive ever worked for has had an attendance policy where you get written up for each absence regardless of the reason I was written up when I worked at Starbucks for calling off with strep throat then never missed work again after that Hopefully employers come to their senses a bit with this situation and stop holding employees accountable for attendance in the middle of a potential pandemic|0 I used to smoke all day every day go to college and had a part time job Lived like that for 34 years straightYou just get used to it and go about your day high as ballsIm absolutely not recommending that anyone do it especially if you drive a car but yeah plenty of folks do|1 the thing that worry me the most is the partiesfestivalshuge events still going on without any safe precautions this is like contagion the movie but in real life|0 Holding Iran responsible for the situation in any way is completely ridiculous Iran is a country that has been getting repeatedly and premptively fucked over by everyone with anything from sanctions to literal explosives Given the terrible response I am witnessing here in NY if the US was still nCOV free and Iran had the same numbers as today close to half og the US population would be saying we should nuke them and only the true bleeding hearts would be recommending any type of an aid packagei dont like Iran but the more I think about it now I realize I dont like them because I have been conditioned to not like them because of the events of 40 years ago This being said I find their dislike of the United States and other Western powers easily understandable We used them as pawns they were not too keen on that arrangement and to this day everypme in the US seems to have a Pikachu facial expression when looking at the result of our countrys behavior towards Iran|0 Yeah need a bit more of a patient history on this one If the patient recovered from it and then relapsed does this mean that the virus had mutated in order for him to get it again|1 100 agreed Billionaires dont earn their wealth they extract it from the rest of us with unethical practices often leading to suffering by those the wealth was extracted from|0 Youre most welcome but be prepared for shitty weather and and lackluster service |0 Thanks for all the good work and good luck to everyone in countries with a steadily rising infection rate|1 Im sure China made this same calculation|1 I am not talking about america i dont like what america does either I am talking about chinas massive humans rights violations What are some solutions you would recommend for china|0 The fuck are you talking about He cut funding End of story Thats why in South Korea they have drive through testing and in the us you have to take out a mortgage on your house to get tested|0 Yes they tested in Helsinki the capital|1 Ugh indeed|0 Well at least the flood of when is the WHO going to finally declare this a pandemic posts have slowed and are approaching asymptotic phase Although posts with backlog in some form are still prominent but stable maybe they reached an inflection point Sadly I suspect the but they changed the definition posts are currently experiencing exponential growth with an R0 higher than anybody suspects The posts referring to 2000 test kits appeared to have died out in the past few days but now new cases are flaring up here and there and I worry about localized H2H spread|0 I am definitely not an expert either It might indeed be a lot less practical having it in separate locations|1 Without a definition of faulty thats not much use Does it mean that you get too many false positives Too many false negatives Too many failed tests that have to be redone but clear that test didnt work Every test will have some failure numbers Whats acceptable and whats not depends a lot on the circumstances and might change the follow up But just claiming that something is faulty and not acceptable doesnt help much if they dont quantify it|1 Thats not what they were saying Everyone has ACE2 receptors the entry point of the virus Everyone can get it There are just multiple preliminary studies showing that males and Asians have more ACE2 expression due to AFs This can result in catching easier and higher morbidity These studies are still being peer reviewed Correlation lines up with these studies as the disease originated in Asia and is infecting and killing mostly malesThese studies also show black people have some of the lowest ACE2 expression on average|0 So I was just thinking about this Probably wrong place wrong time But here I amx200BI work in an office of 11 people for a small 10 store retail chain In the office 2 own the company 8 employees including me I am around 3 or 4 in the chain of command If we were to say that anyone in the 50 range GO HOME IMMEDIATELY The rest 5 of us me included 1 of the owners will figure out the rest of the details of how the others can work from home How do we handle the stores I think send everyone homeHow do I convey the severity of this without sounding like a lunaticx200Bx200BSide note would we be at risk of ageism lawsuits for sending the people most at risk at home immediately but not the rest|0 Masks are pretty small 50000 could be as little as one pallet of masks Its pretty easy to overlook one pallet in an entire warehouse|1 Whats the point of this technique Who is touching the street and getting infected countertops and entry ways I can understand|0 I recycle my plastic into trees with fireShould all be burned for electricity and heat Recycling is stupid Its low grade material and energy intensive Sort it and burn it cleanly|0 2 years No way When I lived in Ontario it was minimum 4 years for most elective things like that |1 sad thing is when the US gets as bad as italy the idiots that do this will probably still be cared for over the elderly|0 Its less about democratic vs authoritarian govts and more about incompetent vs competent govts There are incompetent democratic and authoritarian govts There are also competent democratic and authoritarian govts Authoritarianism is an amplifier It makes everything more extreme Good policies becomes extremely good while bad policies become extremely bad IMO developing nations need to be extremely good to industrialize and become rich before even considering being democratic unless the population is really small Democracy provides stability and thats only good when youre already rich and developed Being stablily crappy and poor is not a good thing for a poor developing nation All the Asian tigers developed under an authoritarian government and some transitioned into full democracies only after being rich and developed This of course applies only after WW2 Before WW2 there was colonialism and all sorts of resource extraction policies by western developed nations to fuel economic growth back home which helped the other western nations that did not engage in such extractive policies because of the proximity to nations which did And of course Japan|1 Im doing my best not to buy things from China lately|1 Well at least in this study the vaccinated animals upon challenge with SARS had no respiratory distress so maybe the issue is fixed or maybe the mouse model was not accurate|0 I hope they do something because this is going to explode soon in the US|1 Arent premature babies put into those isolation boxes all the time|0 Thats me too Here in Western Canada Find the whole situation very interesting but also sad for those impacted|0 please expound|1 Im quite alarmed by how many people have accounts like this Theyre all basically Flew home directly from the hot zone in China during the peak part of the outbreak and nobody in any capacity or with any agency questioned me stopped me followed up to check in or even seemed to notice I was a walking health risk to everyone in America Sometimes I hear they recommend people selfquarantine but like thats it Yall are just gonna blindly trust that everyone will self quarantine and youre not gonna even follow up or check on them or even note their names I wont be surprised at all if this is how some of the unknown origin cases were spreadby people they just released into the community with zero precautions or followup|1 and has already behaved in many different ways it would be unscientific to say that this is what is happening with certainty The only definite scientific finding about the difference between SARSCoV and SARSCoV2 is that SARSCoV2 has a less pronounced range of symptomology that is to say that it is a milder less fatal disease That in and of itself effects its transmissibility Dead people dont breathe and spread diseaseThe most notable parts separating it genetically from SARSCoV is in its receptor mechanism 4 of 5 proteins forming the receptor complex are different but form substantially the same binding point and the furinsensitive cleavage site at S1S2|0 Which is good for Trump because rightwingers can continue to pretend that their economic policy works it was just the virus that screwed it up|0 Oh wow That is very interesting Thank you for pointing this out to me|1 Mofo is now immortal|0 Yeah it cant be pertest I hope I even checked the conversion in case it was a typo but no Wow|1 I whole hardheartedly agree THE question to ask was never asked I still keep wondering underneath all of this fumbling if there isnt specific intent by groups I cant even imagine|1 This is one of the first things I looked up when I started reading about Covid19 and it occurred to me that the hospitalization rate and death rate of hospitalized cases for it is pretty much in line with pneumonia from other causes The only difference seems to be that most pneumonias are only mildly contagious and some are complications of much milder illnesses like colds and Covid19 is super contagious so the overwhelming of health systems was going to be a really big problemIs this correct I know Covid19 pneumonia has a characteristic appearance on CT scans and is considered atypical but unlike say SARSit seems to have the range of illness levels we see with most other pneumonias that we are used to treating|0 Seriously even though we think media is already curtailed I cannot even imagine how worse its gonna be in a few weeks Frickin media black out is my educated guess|0 I feel like the US numbers are high Despite lack of tests its growing exponentially as expectedIts crazy to know its a whole lot worse there US is too slow to do anything to help|1 I disagree We can still contain this in Sweden We shouldnt give up now its really not that many community spread cases yet|0 Im with ya although my mentions have been more just casual Im at the point now where I am sitting very good on foodmedicineshousehold to last probably 6 months for myself and 23 for the dog My continued priority is getting the dog stuff more caught up After that just keep it all rolling forward with each additional paycheck adding more household items like detergent hand soap and toiletries|1 For the rest of the semester What a signal for young people The older more wise people should be a role model here If you die you die You dont have to be afraid of death Changes are if you get corona you will survive as a young person The only concern is that you might infect somebody with immuneinsufficency|0 but there are cases of people younger who died|0 Well just imagine what it would be like if Wuhan wasnt quarantinedI think back when claims were made about a peak not far in the future were when people didnt know just how easily the virus spreads and how much it had already spread|1 Every insurance I know of lets you enroll your newborn and covers their postbirth medical costs Theres no such thing as a preexisting condition for a newborn since well theyre a new person Their birth and their coverage start date are the same Issues before birth are considered to be maternal health and are covered by the mothers insuranceFor adults switching insurance I think its been a decade since companies were allowed to refuse coverage for preexisting conditions Before that each state had their own laws about whether preexisting conditions could be excluded or not and how far back insurance companies were allowed to look Some insurance plans were grandfatheredin and allowed to not cover preexisting conditions until 2014 but I dont know why anyone with a preexisting condition would have stayed on one of those|0 Anyone with kids knows that kids are a pathogen expressway I heard the mayor saying that he knows if kids are out of schools that they are still going to get together So it made no sense to him to close schools But I dont know any kids that get together in groups as large as their class size|0 Then why are so many elite Chinese running away to the US Imagine if the richest Americans were trying to stash their cash in China and sending their progeny to get a Chinese education|1 Im pretty much in the same boat as you Ive been watching very good videos about this for quite some time now and keep updated almost daylie for the last two weeks And the worst part about it is that Im a hypochonder so I get even more anxious now being around people I cant go anywhere without having a bottle of disinfectant with me I went to the HNO throat nose ear doc and saw a mother grab some lego from a bin of the play area in the waiting room for her child to play sit back down to nibble on her finger out of what looked like a habit it literally gave me the chills and I had to seriously contain myself not to burst out and lecture herIm slowly feeling it these past few days Its seriously draining me Im close to depression as well apparently still waiting on some test since end of last year Im now trying to disconnect myself from this and just keep it to slowly the videos and maybe scroll through here for a minute for updates But its hard since now everyone starts mentioning it on everything My youtube feed is filled with it now as well and especially also with fluff shit channels exposing china and what not Not what I needx200BSo yeah disconnect from stuff that tends to make you angry Talk it out as much as you can as I just did pretty much sorry about that and try to distract yourself with stuff that will not remind you of this shitty situation every 5 minutes In other words Try to make it so that YOU decide when you will be exposed to this topic|0 Well thats a risk that our corporate masters are no doubt calculating right now|0 You imbecile It started in China We restricted travel from China late January AGAINST the WHOs advisement We also restricted travel from South KoreaHeres the deal South Korea Japan Taiwan and Singapore all have done a FAR better job addressing this threat than the rest of the world Why Because they know the CCP is a huge asshole that just shits on everyone At this time Chinas got it under control too|0 gone bad gone sexual|0 Sometimes being crazy keeps you a head of the herd|0 Only in the north and numbers are gradually dwindling at a small pace Rome and the centre in general have been out of the radar up to now and all the few cases that occurred have been instantly reported and isolated The Pope should be fine|0 I can tell you from a PCP office perspective the procedure is to contact the County Health Dept with the symptoms travel info and patients potential contact with COVID19 confirmed case The Health Department has the test and dictates who gets it Sadly Physicians are at the mercy of the health dept|0 A member of my Family in Italia is gone today mother of 3Absolute hell fellows|0 so you want thousands of people to all go to their doctor You just shut down the entire system|1 WordPress uses PHPlikeexhaustively My brain hurts thinking about it|0 If everyone has the virus its no longer a virus Or some nonsense with that same line of logic|0 There is this new blood test based on immunochromatography that claims specificity and sensitivity around 90 done in 15 minutes with no special equipment and works in asymptomatic patientshttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoiabs101002jmv25727Its used by Singapore China and Italy but marketed for research use only|1 Read a bookhttpsqzcom1816060achartofthe1918spanishflushowswhysocialdistancingworks The deadliest month in US history was October 1918 during the Spanish Flu pandemic More Americans dies from the Spanish Flu than died during the whole of WW1|0 If fatality rate is 2 it doesnt mean that 98 recover to be perfectly healthy If it causes severe pneumonia it might permanently damage lungs also hospitals cannot handle millions of severe pneumonia cases at once|0 Thank you for your answer I think the message to the public should be as is and that theres been a cost vs benefit decision as we consider societal impacts as a whole Theres a difference in how people perceive the criticality of this virus when officials simply say we dont need to quarantine Theres needs to be a qualifier such as yet as you did andor but we should in an ideal world|1 Correct me if Im wrong I think rather than full efficacy per se on its own theyre also looking at practicality for long usage As N95 masks are tighter fitting they are not recommended for extended daily use at the moment as they are designed in a way that would make it difficult for people to breathe in after a while few hours if they are worn properly Hence the limited advise for use in mostly healthcare settings together with other PPEs due to very close contacts potential What theyre saying is if n95 doesnt cause breathing difficulty for you after a while after you keep adjusting it then youre wearing it wrong and defeats any purpose Therefore its more practical to wear surgical mask all day as you can breath relatively more easilyYea some will see it as logically flawed but until theres further escalation i dont think anyone is gonna go around in public wearing goggles and rubber gloves|0 Then people will just go into debt|0 Shouldnt we make up new tests then Get some from the WHO they gotta be good for something|1 The government shouldhahahaha right Trump Pay for you to sit at home It wouldnt even get to his desk McConnel wouldnt bring it up for a vote|0 Great news|1 Thats my concern as well|1 Well time will tell right|1 I mean those are also all symtoms of a regular influenza virusIt is far fare more likely that you had the regular flu than COVID19 as that there would have been way more cases in the USA if it has been around since december|0 As far as i know having an autoimmune disorder puts you into the high risk group I dont know what that guys source is but ive read a lot about that topic over the past weeks and autoimmune disorderspeople on immunosuppressants are always listed as people who are more likely to die together with old people people with cancer or people with respiratory or heart diseases|0 Great case to put the healthcare of the country under the control of the party in power|1 Today trump asked if the flu vaccine might help March 3 After it was well on its way at christmashe finally asks a pertinent question march 3rd Just wow|1 I am baffled by this I also cant keep up with the deaths Where have they been reported And ages Does anyone know an easy way to keep track|1 i messaged the owner of the sub and hes happy to remodel so thats what well be doing everyone who thinks this is a solid idea feel free to subscribe and post the old posts will be cleaned out shortly|1 Commies do come up with fun quotes Though its pretty easy to look back and argue that the premise is a bit ridiculous WWI had been destroying the continent for years at that point before he was chartered into Russia by Kaiser Wilhelm II in the hopes he would help remove Russia from the war It worked masterfully done by the Germans|1 I mean Are we REALLY surprised|1 my personal checklist is whiskey cigarettes and a fuckin big ass knife for cutting the nails off of chicken feet like whaaaat haha |1 Furlough is a thing Hours are so cut at my work that theyre basically offering voluntary furlough and PTO cash out assistance for getting people on unemployment until jobs return|0 His team is on it They have been responsive late at night early in the morning And thus far they have been doing everything that they can do and I want to say thank you and I want to say that I appreciate ithttpstwittercombennyjohnsonstatus1239947858553552896Yup nice use of the there|1 Haining City Zhejiang Province expat here Yeah the number is increasing Haining does not have any confirmed cases as of now I just read that a resident of Haining who is in Hangzhou and tested positive for the virus fled the hospital trying to make it back to Haining Cant escape the cameras he was found and arrested by the police IMO it will be a matter of time before we will start getting cases Meanwhile my wife and I are making plans to return to the states next week If I can get my 17monthold son to wear a mask and keep it on then we will leave without worry 18 hours on a plane with my little dude will be the next challenge|1 Or It was just the biggest holiday of the year when people travel so the risk is high|1 I wish you didnt digress|1 I expect the US to skew the thing a bit in terms of infectiondeathrate because the US has a culture of sending its elderly to live all in the same place with each other This is where the virus is gonna wreak havoc in the US|0 Thats usually the goal when you underfund something to the point people think its useless Its stealth destroying|0 Barrel or saguaro Prickly Pear is for pussies just sayin|0 Your manager is an idiot to think geriatric patients getting the flu is nbd Its infuriating|0 They did it before with SARS and this time they denied WHO observers So yes its probableAs a scientist I find the data very irregular in that it is freakishly straight except for 211 change in reporting method obviously It looks like a synthetic curve It does not correlate to traffic and quarantine patterns The decrease in infection rate mid February correlates with the days after the most traveled day of the year and not the beginning of the mass quarantine weeks earlier The opposite of what youd expect to seeLike Ive said before Chinese crematoriums are going to be burning a lot more extra paper than they used to|1 I feel like upvoting this will get you put on a list lol|1 People need to get their heads out their asses Masks may not significantly reduce your chances of contacting the virus but it does HELP People think washing your hands help it does but its a respiratory illness The main obstacle is your face Hell wearing a mask can even help AGAINST Influenza its crazy how people think masks dont help Sure medical professionals need masks common people dont But dont treat us as if we committed a crime or some shit Fellow NYC subway rider|0 There are videos of people suddenly collapsing due to cytokine storm or myocarditis Is that reinfection or the virus still in the body|0 btw any active personel here have there been any movement restrictions put in place confined to base etc|1 You got something here A plane ticket to south Korea is as low as 500 That would be less than my coopt paymentsNext step hang out in illegal Filipino and Vietnamese immigrant areas then follow them to the hospital|0 Going to work is fine in lots of situations|1 Theres been cases in hospitals of infected not getting tested because the testing authorities required that you have been to outbreak areas to qualify In the US for a week and in Austria for ten days patients were spreading it in hospitals with clear symptoms of the disease but somehow everyone thought theres no way they have it All the new cases coming to light in the past few days have been to Italy in the past week Which means that 1 we are still only testing people who have been to outbreak areas it is just that we now include Italy while 2 these people have been spreading it for days Were still only checking people who have symptoms and have been to ChinaItaly Since we dont test for community transmission we sure as hell arent going to find itAssuming that your area has no sarscov2 is most likely naive|0 Nonsense This bullshit fear mongering has to stop|0 Its not really about using data as suggesting an approximate magnitude and seriousness|0 Yeah I know that the rational thing is to stay calm and that this is only one case but the case described here is terrifying|0 Sent a letter to Tory Ford Christine Elliott TO public health Ontario public health local mpp Trudeau and Christia Freeland imploring them to act now with social distancing measures and to improve their communication with Canadians about the next steps Announcing a fund for companies or ei tweeks isnt enough concrete action|1 The patient here was 44 but I guess he doesnt have to worry anymore either eh|1 Who knows what the situation will be here in 12 weeks as there is a lag time between here and Italy of 23 weeks With the situation deteriorating more rapidly in the US there will be a lot of activity here as well|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 What about all these bills people have to pay We need clarity on that|1 Cool|1 Thats nice to read|1 Under control Just wait a week Relative to the US yes Relative to Italy yes But some shit they fucked up Allowing sporting events to continue Not even sanitizing buses with known cororona carriers People come back from Italy and take train home to go into quarantine Yesterday announced first case where they dont know where it came from Just wait until after Purim|0 No low effort posts|0 So my friend is on a cruise that starts and ends in Florida should I be preparing to watch her pets for a lot longer than 2 weeks|1 If they were to strike Trump would just break their union for national security angry President Reagan carried out his threat and the federal government began firing the 11359 airtraffic controllers who had not returned to work In addition he declared a lifetime ban on the rehiring of the strikers by the Federal Aviation Administration FAA|0 First question no snark Do you have a PCP|0 Look everybody The number of cases isnt growing quite as rapidly once you shut down nearly an entire country sFFS people lol|1 People called my alternative solution crazy but its better for the economyMy alternative solution Force everyone over 65 and those with severe illnesses that arent in a hospital to be under quarantine stay indoors and wear facemasks and gloves or whatever else is necessary to wear at all times Let everyone else live normally while getting infected and herd immunity Close airports for a while so virus doesnt spread elsewhere That way you dont have to shut down everything else and the economy wont tank Youll also be better off against the second wave of coronavirus|0 This is going to work out so well with the upcoming olympics Grab the popcorn and lawn chair And figure out how to eat popcorn with that N95 mask on|1 The fact that individuals within the Federal Government feel compelled to speak without administration endorsement or coordination is in itself very frightening|0 When its related to somebodys lives yeah bad tasteI sell stuff online too and actually had the opportunity to buy a bunch of masks before but decided not to because it felt wrong Not exactly against free market Just not at the expense of somebodys life|0 Yeah Im sorry I was just trying to lighten the mood with my specialty poorly timed bad humor I do this all the time I have a bad sense for when humor is appropriate|0 Im in the Mississippi ANG as a C17 loadmaster and I got word yesterday that it was starting to mess with stuff for flight crews Obviously I cant get into specifics because of OPSEC reasons but I can say that it is starting to affect the military flyers|0 This is so gutting rest in peace xx|1 That would be beautiful|1 Why does he hate America so much|0 I work for a music festival in July and Im fucking terrified Ill be out of a job if this goes under|0 This comment alone makes me believe you actually work for the VA Thats about how fast anything I ever needed at the Portland VA happened as a patient when I lived in OR|0 I had the same reaction when I stopped into my local Publix Hurricane Dorian was on our doorstep as a huge cat 5 hurricane and even then it wasnt this bad with all the food gone and lines 10 deep at every register|1 Stay safe when you get back|1 In Italy they have closed schools resulting in grandparents who are much more susceptible to the virus to become the babysitters If all businesses shut down and there was no one actually traveling to work that would work well as it did in China They locked residents in their homes and apartments during quarantine The majority of countries have not seen the number of infections to warrant that drastic measure yet However China was ground zero and realized the virus had already spread widely prior to detection and properly identifying as a new virus|0 I have literally the exact same symptoms and had the same experience with 111 Im really unsure on what to do|0 No its happening in Wuhan and Japan|0 The flu has a death rate of about 01 percent COVID19 has a death rate of around 3 percent In cold mathematical terms if there are 1000 cases each of the flu and COVID19 one person will die of the flu 1000 x 0001 1 but 30 will die from COVID19 1000 x 003 30 Hope I got the math correct We have a vaccine to prevent people from getting the flu There is no vaccine for COVID19 and wont have one for 1218 months|0 Gg corona|1 Because clearly the priority during a pandemic is to ensure businesses remain open for a sufficient amount of hours to draw in customers and turn profits It isnt to close and prevent mingling of people altogether and lose some money|1 Absolutely agree Mark my post rates of obesity will be lower in 20212022 A shift in eating habitsMy wife and I cook almost every meal We prep breakfast sandwhiches and lunch More than not my breakfast is a greek yogurt with a fiber protein lunch is a small salad or deli meat Dinner we have go to quick options for the kids when necessary but typically make meals and have leftoversEating healthier is not expensive IMO Although we have a mix of euro and Asian foods we staple so rice pasta chicken fish etcEating lunch at 5 a person minimum is definitely more expensive|1 What depression did you live through Are you 100 years old|0 Crap Shit|0 Weakness and mediocrity lack of foresight gambling to reduce economic impact|0 Auntie Beeb certainly isnt|1 leave room for it to move slightly|0 Ok now i KNOW this shit is serious|0 No its true The PM literally said it|1 The big argument I see is Well if there were way more cases than what we know wouldnt we see it by now I try to explain that all you need to do is look at Italy to see how fast it can go from relatively normal to hospitals being completely overrun and having to choose who lives and dies by who gets the critical care they need I think most would agree that this virus is pretty manageable in a single cases but what makes it so menacing is the way it spreads so quickly and takes weeks for it to really make itself known on a large scale and by then its too late|1 Compared to 80 yes Only|1 In recent memory honest communication hasnt really been much of a thing|1 12 March 10 13 March 11 10 14 March 21 90 15 March 35 67 16 March 55 57 17 March 71 29 18 March 104 46This is an average of 50 and a median of 51If this were to continue at the current average rate of 50 you would hit 20240 deaths in 13 days It is important to note that most of the people who will die in the next 2 weeks already have the virus today|0 Theres really substantial criticism of that paper including demands for retraction From what I understand there have been 164 known random mutations that are all considered inconsequential That paper picked 2 of them and arbitrarily decided they denote different strains of a virus that have different severity levels and rate of spread The tests of patient zero in WA have shown both mutations so its likely that the S and L are just common replication errors|0 That sounds like it would cost money CANT RAISE TAXES|1 Oh shit|0 Sadly too many have a disconnected feeling towards this whole situation and will continue to do so until it affects them directly|0 I would probably panic and lie too|0 Im from italy A man who was found infected some week ago was quarantined at home After some days he proceeded to take his car to go to work in a city 20 miles from his abitation Hes a dentist Luckily he was found by the police while on the road and now he risk from 1 to 10 years of reclusion for violating the quarantine while infected There are a lot of half brained people around|0 Along with testing people with symptoms who had travelled to the hotspots there has also been random dip testing in some areas Swabs taken from people with chest infections etc have been tested for the virus They can work out the spread with this data It makes more sense then just testing everyone that demanded a test|0 its gonne happen in europe to lol|1 Now with the case of the person who went to Miami for a concert Real smart idea to not cancel the festival s|1 Think about it like this if you get sick is your manager gonna come over and take care of you and feed you chicken soupDont be their bitch Get out ASAP|0 Facts I had plastic surgery on my eyebrow cuz I got it smashed playing basketball 12 years is so excessive plus how do we know he knew Italy gives way to less to murderers|0 and here I am buying all the werid shaped pasta cos the werider the better I have yet to find out what to do with the ones that looks like small thin hoops Or gigantic size macaroni those you can use as a thumb ring|1 Its just a little airborne its still good|1 Yeah but then these assholes come to work and give it to me|0 Can you please approve me so I can post Feeling very anxious|1 Were trying to gather as much data as possible and make sure its highly accurate One features were currently testing is comparisons between countries You can test it here httpscoronawikiorgcomparelogarithmicitalyukushttpscoronawikiorgcomparelogarithmicitalyukus|1 And how many others would not have jobs to come back to after missing 24 weeks of work|0 Ottawa but I just found a volunteer Facebook page who can help Thank you|1 Not all of us voted for this piece of shit disguised as a person Just a friendly reminder|0 Warmest welcome will be given at your first trip to china best luck|1 Sir thats not entirely true|0 No surprise manitoba is infamous for being reactive not proactive|0 It is difficult to compare two countries so different in sizes California alone is bigger than Italy in area and has about 23 the population of Italy|0 I can only apologise for my countrymen and I would imagine womens utter fuckwittedness There is a strong and stubborn strain of mentality that doesnt realise that a they look and sound like utter fools and b WW2 was over a looong time ago Sorry|1 Fair point lets hope thats his angle|1 I would guess this is happening with ventilators to but I havent seen anything come across my desk Ill ask around with other shops and see if theyre seeing similar types of jobs coming in|0 Hmm how about you have a nut job president that doesnt give a shit about anything besides trying to keep the market up so he gets reelected|1 This whole epidemic is such a shit show|0 I woke up yesterday with a sore throat By the end of the day I had a cough and minor shortness of breath It was too late to be seen at any of the local clinics here so I called off work this AM Symptoms significantly worse overnight the cough is bad enough that I feel like Im going to black outIll get by test back in a couple days but was told that I should assume I have it for the moment NGL little bit worried|0 Youre right Id rather base my fear mongering on a president and politicians who are severely downplaying this while state after state declares emergency No big deal everyone Carry on Its JuSt ThE FlU|0 I dont envy small biz owners right now|1 I get that Every time I check reddit its a bit like I need to armor up and brace for what the new thing is that is going to elicit a bah fuck Just nuts I really think the simulation has gone off the rails at this point|0 This is an excellent piece written from someone who is experiencing this first hand Appreciate your time to share it a zombified city being not quite dead and not quite aliveDescribed expertly and gave me an eerie feeling|1 Yes that works out to a 2405 chance for a smoker to become severe compared to 1445 for a nonsmoker So smoking raises the persons chance to go severe by a whopping 66|1 LOVE from China a high school student x200BLove from Tennessee an old guy|1 I ofc know there probably be 10times higher infections in UK than official number but when they say herd immunity its about tens of millions of peopleI had studied influenza for six years I guess I know how virus spread Thx|1 Yep Anxiety will do that to you Get a pulse oximeter if you wanna reassure yourself that your breathing is finesee if you need to go to a doctor dyspnea is a very subjective symptom even when it feels very bad|0 Your dentist is shady as hell Id switch if youre able to when everything calms down a bit hopefully in a couple months|0 America is a joke|1 Americans are getting off planes as we speak in Cancun They are full of shit|0 Im in this cycle too day 8 My mom has something too she may have given it to me she is in the hospital with pneumonia and they swore yesterday shed get a test today We havent confirmed yet it happened and its tough with no visitation and loooong waits on hold to talk to the legit extremely very busy kind and patient attending physicians Shes not really in any shape to advocate for herself and probably would be too polite besides Its tough for the docs too they have limited tests They WANT to test her They need a good reason|1 Love this Thanks Stay safe|1 My job in Manhattan thinks its all okay now for some reason and we should start planning to return to work after a single day shut down Meanwhile on the opposite end my kids NJ school is shut down starting MondayFuck American style capitalism Straight up sociopathic|1 I think at a minimum our tax dollars should pay for prevention and treatment of contagious diseases I dont care how good your insurance is if you get sick because the waiter or the Walmart cashier cant afford to see a doctor youve now got a problem possibly even a lethal oneWe could try it out on a shortterm basis Make the law expire after five years unless reapproved by Congress Monitor public health outcomes during those five years and if nothing changes let the law expire At least we could then say we tried something different instead of what we do now which is so often just the same old|0 Ive actually thought that China released this or at least allowed it to spread without getting in the way fast enough in order to shut down the Hong Kong protestors Plus their population is so large I feel like the government would secretly be like and look the other way|1 EXACTLY Im fortunate to be able to work from home 3 days a week and my employer has made it clear that the entire company is ready to go 100 remote if needed That being said the implication is there that youll still be expected to work even if youre sickquarantinedif you dont want to use up all of your PTO that is|1 Is this reallt where were going People think this is gonna get so bad that people are harming each other for food|0 Sadly dont know sis blood type too|0 Can you link to this map please|1 This is such an awful horrible virus Im so scared for my parents aunts uncles and grandparents Almost all have pre existing health problems and are well in the 60 age bracket This is such scary bad news|0 Also useful for passing on drugs on the sly Id imagine|1 Yeah of course since it has nothing to do with a virus thats in almost every major region on earth now thats gone from 450 cases a week ago to 10000 known todays|1 Yeah that doesnt work because Boris bad in this sub and any sort of constructive discussion that is seen as defending Boris gets downvoted This sub is just Corbyn supporters saying this is what you get for voting Tory and claiming Boris is deliberating trying to murder people Waste of time|0 How about not boardingSelf quarantining while possibly infecting others during flight is stupid |0 And we will hear all about it when shit hits the fan and these idiots start to panic Then its too lateMy family arent far from Cardiff|0 I was going to say cant find potatoes or bananas oddly enough in my city at all It has a great storage life|1 Thanks for the image Yes Jollyroger gave us some statistics on mortality rate above I will say the interesting thing that the image you posted brings up is that the 31 estimate of mortality rate is used for everyone but in actuality there is a much greater risk to our vulnerable populations such as the elderly 31 risk isnt the risk for every sub population it may seem In regards to the hospitalization vs flu comment thats what I was trying to get at with ARDS versus postviral pneumonia but thank you for explaining more directly for everyone|0 Just like World War Z|0 lol im totally btfo|1 This is definitely it|1 Not happening with current leadership His generation fucked him too|0 original reports were indeed 6 days but its been corrected to 25 days|1 Nice|1 I just left a Cincinnati Target The bleach namebrand spray sanitizers and most of the Clorox wipes were gone The tp and OTC meds were heavily picked over But someone was already restocking paper towels from a HUGE pallet so theyve got their game face on|1 OMG That is unbelievable|1 Maan ppl on Reddit are much more compassionate than in other Social Media outlets|1 Summary Everyone patting themselves on the back Google is making a website heres a shitty flow chart Thanks for the update|0 Bernies Open borders policy letting infected into the US would be better then Trumps China ban and mandatory quarantine You thought this through right|0 Investigators say the woman admitted to licking her fingers and mentioned that she was glad the agent was wearing gloves but she insisted that she would never joke about coronavirusOr maybe the TSA officer was in a shit mood about having to be in a job where they are likely to have contact with the virus and decided he didnt like what she said then added the And I have coronavirus bit at the end And she was just making innocent small talk about how its good they wear gloves because people accidentally do stuff that would spread it without thinking all the time Like licking your fingers|0 GermanyAnd he started to laugh I wonder if Mark Rutte can be serious for a second|1 Were about a week away from the advice becoming dont pay your landlord refuse eviction notices shoplift groceries|0 Even two weeks makes me skeptical that it will help My job at the local pool is closed until March 30 but Im very skeptical that all this is going to go away within two weeks People are still congregating at grocery stores and pharmacies This temporary closure of nonessential services seems like placing a bandaid on a cut artery|0 Yes and now I look at my supplies that once have me comfort thinking I should have done more This is nuts|1 Yeah I have a basement boot sink that of the virus ever gets to my area of the woods Ill use to disinfect my PPE I have some grad A full faces from work|0 I feel youIm not paranoid but I work in a position where I am around hundreds of foreign travellers every day Hotel housekeeper I carry around a bottle of hand sanitizer that I use liberally and wash my hands frequently Which I do anyway holdover from kitchen workWe havent escalated to requiring n95 face masks but there is a stock ready and protocol posted if it gets to that point|1 Wed probably all die from global warming before the coronavirus|0 No it is unusual in the west at least on USA to wear wedding attire before the wedding You might be talking about engagement photos but the bride and groom dont wear wedding attire for those Traditionally groom doesnt see the bride in her wedding dress until the day of the wedding|1 dead people laying in the street|0 But theyre not getting those masks from home depot or whatever so this lack of supply chain has nothing to do with regular folks buying up masks from hardware stores or Walmart The problem is medical supply stores not having enough and all medical facilities trying to get ahold of extra at the same time|0 honest|1 Wish I could do that|1 A lot of NIMBYs in the California bay area Constant complaints about the homeless problem but no one wants shelters being built in the very limited space out there They expect a magical solution that doesnt exist|0 Its a paranoid hypothetical If there was a long term crisis that involved people robbing others you would have several caches of supplies An obvious smaller cache that you would give up to avoid a violent confrontation Its a pretty cynical situation|0 Lol I have a gas mask that I wore to Walmart Personally I love all the stares and people being weirded out|1 Thanks I dont care about the down votes Neither do viruses Nor will down voting someone on the internet make their excuses more valid It just is what it is I hope their grandparents dont get horribly sick because they just cant manage to teach Billy a little discipline but then again its not my family and I dont control what they do Nor do they have to do what I do Choices consequences ownership|1 At least thats an outdoor solitary activity If she doesnt usually run into a bunch of people on the walks anyway or chooses a quieter route there isnt too much risk walking her dog|1 There is such poor communication and little regard from the CDC and other authorities like transportation and lack of information being communicated between states Just today the Governor of Florida said that he learned about the NY person who traveled to Miami FL through the News Media People are not getting screened properly or not at all prior to traveling Protect yourselves people and dont depend on what you hear in the news or from our informative authority I am currently struggling with my 75 year old Father who takes his neighbors to the airport on occasion He is still currently doing it and I am trying to get him to stop for now|0 Tue difference between statistical significance and practical significance|1 yep he knew he had it I think he should be|1 Have your mom complain I went in my kids school and they fixed it in 24 hours apparently they hadnt had soap all year r|0 Bless|1 Why should this sub be political Everyone is affected by this|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 I was in line in DC and someone wearing a mask was accosted You should only wear a mask if youre sick Are you sick|0 Isolate then The government have literally told you to employ social distancing what do you think that means|0 Nice Leaderboard1 uRepliesNice at 1790 nices2 ulerobinbot at 1589 nices3 uporousasshole at 529 nices132809 utntien at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 He is dumb as a sack of door knobs|0 Dont forget that its the Easy Mode because of the global political incompetence and nobody really washes hands nor respects social distanciation|0 Cant stand Fox but this is 100 true|1 New parents are kind of nuts I say this as someone with four kids|0 Old folks are the ones that often vote for law makers that insure we cant have paid sick leave or universal health care in my country maybe this will get some of them to change their minds|1 As far as I can tell its a coping mechanism If you have ever played Hearts of Iron its like building tanks when you are out of manpower They will do nothing but you are panicked Think they are mass manufacturing ambulances and bringing in medical STUDENTS|0 Why Leftists run twitter They wouldnt ban people for providing accurate information Thats just crazy|1 If you were snowed in to a mountain cabincamp by yourself for a week or two with no connection to the outside worldyou might have a problem Staying in your house a lot but not all of the day while you converse with the entire world live on your devicesthats just normal life for a lot of people lol|1 No supply chains are affected what exactly are you prepping for lol People like you piss off all the reasonable people who cant buy things normally for a short while and end up wasting time at the supermarket|0 And the results of Chinas testing is what That they failed miserably to contain it and now it is worldwidePretty much going to have to ride it out it seems Its probably impossible to contain it now because of how the virus behavesContainment isnt working because it spread differently the tests had a very high failure rate it was spreading unknown people without symptoms spreading and time of the yearIt would take more extreme measures from the beginning and knowing sooner to get a containment of it Which China failed to doNeed to buy time now and wait it out fear isnt going to help anyone|0 Thats wacky man Hes probably going to win so I dont see the point in putting off elections Now running the country from an undisclosed underground complex Cheyenne Mountainmaybe|1 Working from home If Amazon still delivers Ive got some rooms to paintIf not Ill catch up on some woodwork projects|1 And yet the powers that be at my work banned me from wearing a mask|0 Thank you good peasant here take this gold Dragon coin|1 Supply and Demand When there was a shortage of HDD drives the prices increased pretty rapidly 60 of HDDs were manufactured in Thailand Production halted because there was a huge flood Now imagine that happening to almost every single product in every single industry Its not rock science its basic economics This is a ticking time bomb Its not a matter of IF Its a matter of when|1 It reminds me of photoshopped images I saw as a child kittens shoved inside glass bottles They were horrifying to me back then since they claimed them to be real|0 Thank you This is what needs to be done|1 How generous of Cuckerburg to allow his company to pay their employees a whopping 08 of his own wealth|1 What is weird is that only in the last century since moving pictures that the status of actors and actresses have moved up from the lowest of the low Times have certainly changed|0 Stay away from any sick people drink lots of water and wash your hands all day and lotion at night You will be ok Your 8 wk appt is only 2 weeks away they will have so much more information by then Im sure some actual guidance will be availableIf you need to talk just pm me Ive done it 3 times|1 Also why would the president delegate the most important issue affecting our country in our lifetimes to the Vice President|1 What a great guy we really need more people like this|1 Theres plenty of sharks out there that circle the waters looking for isolated seniors to prey on Theres also lots of honest people trying to help Stay safe everyone|1 No We wont There will be permanent damage Some of us will end up completely dysfunctional Dont sugarcoat the bullshit Just be honest|1 True But doing that spreads it and increases the likelihood a vulnerable person will encounter it too So just keep living as if it is not out there not saying you saying some with no regard to the suffering your actions could cause others|0 Disgusting frauds they should be put in prison|0 Thats a horrible attitude Health care workers dedicated their education to help people in their time of need Not risk major infections And help people thats an added risk factor not part of the job descriptionGo pack sand|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very 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have any questions or concerns|0 I have long time business partners based in China and we have developed real friendships They are in Guangzhou and their business are shit down still Its so sad to see this happen so such a wonderful nation of caring hard working entrepreneurial people|1 80 of Republicans currently support Trumps response to the virus|1 Can you recommend any good zombie movies to watch with family|1 If somebody wont need that much help they stay home and get well on their own they wont be quarantined in hospitals as they do now only heavy cases need to be treated if it gets worse Also a part of what he said Same for flu which is almost as deadly You dont get quarantined they send you home millions get it every year Corona is new thats why all freak out True is we should not jump around and kiss infected people Be careful wash your hands but we should stop panicking|0 This is the world we live inI cant say anything regarding one side or the other as any statement I make is both accurate to both sides and probably accurate to me as wellQuestioning authority is a good thing but many are questioning the wrong type of authorityClimate change is causing cities and states to go underwater as we speak forest fires are burning hotter than ever before making them much harder to fight and seasons that give regions their iconic looks are practically gone I barely remember the last GOOD winter we had in NE as the past few years it felt like spring in the middle of JanuaryI agree that it is incredible that health and world crisiss get publicized but for me who has a physics teacher who came from an academia background and actually knows his stuff it is almost infuriating Sure that one climate change speaker got his predictions wrong But they were wrong because the real situation was worse And the same case spreads to everything else that is being denied by individuals even when there is definite evidence to say otherwise|0 Such an ignorant statement You must be so embarrassed I am embarrassed for you|0 Thank you I am on it WW2 I have great knowledge on but only small aspects of it Looks like I am going to be busy|1 Its still flu season but yea were all pretty much guaranteed to get it Flatten the curve means were all going to get it just spreading out how fast we get it by a month or two so that only 100k of us are in the hospital at a time rather than 10x that|1 I can understand Australian here who just moved to Seattle The moment I heard Trump say everything is fine I knew it wasnt fine|1 Due to the shortage of masks Ive researched DIY viral masks A study was done with the DIY masks and found that they were 75 effective at best and something like 61 effective at worst Better than not wearing a mask at allhttpssmartairfilterscomenblogdiyhomemademaskprotectviruscoronavirusEdit Link to article|1 Done Please have all the cpu cycles you need from my home lab|1 This is fine|1 Had a medicalstress leave already in the works off now for three months Thank God pandemics are stressfree But seriously I guess its good|1 No that is critical|0 Thats good news then what a relief|1 Ahahah no I wasnt But is that true I didnt read itYeah I read it now Fun story But wasnt here in Rome Your future will be boring Sometimes stressfull it depends who you are quarantined with|1 are you seriously trying to conflate muslims with jihadi terrorists the fuck is wrong with you|0 What is your complaint about her|0 Imagine if the virus continues to spread on the west coast and then some seismic event happens along the SA fault Water lines and earthquakes dont mix and you cant really predict when an earthquake will happen I dont blame people for stocking up on some extra water|0 So strange how spot on this is Up till today it was contained were on top of it and doing a great job Then earlier this morning I saw for the first time the CDC saying were going to have hospitals staff and equipment shortages and now this Like did they really not know or has it started spiking faster than they thought|1 anything over 1000 WAY too lenient The Heinsberg carnival was some 300|1 Im hoping thats the case too|1 adorable|1 Now is definitely not a time to start a trade war with the Cheeto in Chief Trudeau made the right call|0 And in sweden they dont even test at all to see if youre good to go Even those few ppl that are being tested They just say stay home until your symptoms are gone and then wait an extra two days they dont realize its fking sweden were in my friend was on a cruise last week got a cold a few days ago and still visited her bfs grandma this weekend My mom collueges wanted praise for working even tho they had fever and coughs Ppl aint staying home ffs|1 My work has been quite proactive for this situation as well as giving us daily updates Weve had a travel ban to China for the last month and theyve been adding to the bans as well as non essential travel for medium and low risk countries Last night the official stay home if you are feeling any of the symptoms we expect shit to hit the fan EMail came out as well|1 Yeah Ive noticed this for like every city sub whats up with this|1 I work in the medical device field this is sketchy as hell The material they used needs to carefully picked or it can cause clots to form or cause immune response The design and materials need to be tested to ensure they wont wear out If a piece breaks off of one of those valves and gets loose then it will kill people|0 I have a newfound respect and interest for Italy and when this is all over Id like to visit there someday |1 Not really The possibility of reinfection has always been a VERY big if because that is extremely unlikely and the current medical consensus is that the suspected reinfection cases were not but just cases of false recoveries|0 Political parties are the worst part of the US political process If you only ever vote for one party solely because you identify as a member of that party youre part of the problem This isnt sports Think for yourselves Do research Be responsible|1 Im talking about two towns using USA terms interchangeable for cities and provinces or whatever floats your boat in the same county may be affected differently even though theyre of the same ethnicity Also always include sourcesEdit did you read what I linked|0 Haha The masks and all supplies went out of stock last week But good luck|1 Im at work right now but Ill send you what I can find this afternoon |0 Seeing it where i work two I work in a department that just had a guy come back from Israel a week ago and now 2 people have come down with cold symptoms in the last 2 days Im legit terrified because i am an atrisk individual I suffered substantial lung damage years ago due to ARDS sepsis and necrotizing pneumonia|0 Theres a very strong risk for ADE We dont know if thats a problem with this virus officially but its been a problem every time an inactivated whole virus vaccine has been attempted for any other coronavirus and this one is likely no different Theres an antigen present in coronaviruses that stimulates the production of antibodies that do more harm than good suspected to be the N protein if I remember correctly|0 It seems like a flu bro get well soon Thank you for update|1 Nominally this is a great idea but there is rule of law in the United States You cant just walk into a clinic or hospital and demand not to pay for servicesBest|1 Grand Rapids MI Stores are completely insane The last 2 days stores were running out of hand sanitizer toilet paper today Sams club is out of chicken and ground beef and a local market is out of gallon waterReally starting to feel the worst is yet to come even if the virus is contained|0 The death rate has a ton to do with the underlying demographics of the country and the resources they can throw at itSpot onI wish people would understand thisPeople act as if the CFR is some inherently immutable characteristic of the Virus as opposed to a combination of the innate morbidity date of presentation demographics resources and expertiseIve seen people say that the Italian infections are a new strainWhen your triage is in a situation where you are having to choose based on most favourable long term outcome then your numbers arent going to be pretty|1 Why is the lack of a bump in pneumonia cases expected|0 Excellent Thank you Do common items brought into the home require special handling like mail newspapers delivered packages Rx drug containers from pharmacies Perhaps a better question is how concerned should one be about contamination from other types of surfaces even soft surfaces like shoes and clothing and how one should treat them|1 It takes a while to get sick and dieAnd it takes even more time to recover And so far pretty much everyone is recovering If it was so much worse then Im pretty sure we would see at least a few more deathsI still think the worst impact this virus is going to have is an economic one Im feeling positive and I dont think it will change the face of the world much|1 Dont apologise for your English Writing a long detailed post in a foreign language is not easy Thank you for giving us this account of the Situation in IranTry to stay safe and best of luck to you and your countrymen|1 Yes I agree People dont realize it is an average most of the time It would both set some mind at ease and really drive home the crux of the issue if it was communicated differently based on risk profile|1 In Poland police visit people under selfquarantine daily They also offer to pick up groceries for the quarantined Theres some debate over whether people try to cheat the system but so far the controls have shown only less than a dozen people missing from quarantine in thousands checked|0 Clorox wipes and ones like it take at least 4 minutes of wetness to disinfect viruses maybe See my edit2httpswwwcloroxcomhowtodisinfectingsanitizingcoldfluotherdiseaseshelppreventthespreadofthehumannovelcoronavirus2019ncovEdit Also httpswwwtodaycomhometheresrightwrongwayusecleaningwipesapparentlyt154581Edit2 Another of Cloroxs websites says 15 seconds They must be super safe with the 4 minuteshttpswwwcloroxprocomproductscloroxcloroxdisinfectingwipes|1 You probably will be able to in 2024 but hes a machine politician moderate so hell be hated on reddit|0 httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustersLooks like youre right about this one Ill update my other post Thanks for correcting me|1 Hi Please can you split Africa in SubSaharan and Northern Africa We pretty big and need to track cases by the different regions|1 Yes|1 NO Major Spanish Flu outbreaks were reported all over China in 1918 As an instance heres a section of the news report in Zhejiang In some villages nine families out of ten were infected Within a family nine people out of then were already killed most of them being peasants Cryings can be heard everywhere The miserable situation can be hardly described by words The history of Spanish flu in China is largely neglected since China was plagued by literally everything possible at that time An epidemic that killed a lot of people was just to common at that time|0 Your post was removed for advocating suggesting celebrating or threatening violence death and you may have been given a ban See Reddits content policy herehttpswwwredditinccompoliciescontentpolicy|0 Ill post a howto later but cut out from a home furnace filter The MERV12 and MERV14 filter out viruses smoke dander Tie it with a bandanna|0 Number of cases Yes|1 Data seems inaccurate as it shows no cases in San Francisco|0 An excellent time to unionize|1 Would there be anything under the customs act every one has to sign now acknowledging that they are expected to self isolate Ive been looking but I cant really find any consequences listedhttpslawsloisjusticegccaengactsC526page38htmlh142136|0 In Florida they are refusing to test people unless you have some sort of celebrity status or on the brink of death lol|0 Yeah not really I know many people with 30 plus guns and are all taking this seriously and are genuinely concerned I think the issue is for self employed and people in the trades or laborers who wont be receiving paychecks when this kicks in Not to say I dont think its necessary|1 screams in Sirius Black|0 My bad Meant to be replying to another comment The person was saying 4060 of the critically ill 4060 of 5 of symptomatic cases|0 look after yourself and your loved ones no one else will take care and stay safe|1 I was just saying the same exact thing to my husband I dont know much about him but his handling of this compared to the president has brought me some level of comfort I agree that KY citizens seem ignorant of the danger of the next few weeks but it is somewhat a relief that the governor is taking this seriously|1 How warped have we become that receiving help means fuck you I hate American pridefulness The way weve handled this we dont deserve to be prideful right now|0 Holt shit that blew up fast|0 Can I ask some questions real quick How many of these people that decided to go in for testingtreatment actually needed it How many people werent sick with the virus to begin with but went to the hospital and got infected there Are they not turning these hospitals into potential hotbeds because people are freaking out This is why they tell you to stay at home dont just go to the doctor right away Its taking care away from people who actually need it Thats why Italy is choosing who gets care and who doesnt|1 Whats the difference He tested negative|0 Yesits all about money Screw everybody else|0 Not worried about dying just worried about feeling like shit for a month|1 I see thanks for the info|1 I sure am glad my job is paying me even after they shut down Really makes me want to stick with the company even tho the pay isnt great|1 Almost certainly Glad others can see this|1 Lol dont worry Bill were pretty good at social distancing on here|1 Why dont we put someone different in office to shake things up How much worse can it getMorgan Freemans voice Little did they know it could get worse Way worse|0 You can get a piece of land that cheap near timmins and just pitch a tent A hot tent is a tent with a woodstove you could comfortably live out ofIf your gonna bug out like that might as well spend the money on supplies and go to crown land|1 httpswwwthescientistcomnewsopinionwhysomecovid19casesareworsethanothers67160Thanks for the link Its impressive how fast the scientific community is working in this crisis This is a great overview|1 Longer but lower instead of quick and intensely high Epidemic can only be stopped by herd immunity or vaccine all we can control is the growth rate until then|0 This is why China was able to contain their epidemic and the USA will fail|0 Avoid political discussions applies to political comments that are not on the topic of 2019nCoV It does not apply to criticism of governments or anything that is not political in nature|1 No some other fat idiot|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 I really like Fauci hes honest and talks clearly about the situation|1 Do you know what jumping the gun means|0 A friend who also has anxiety suggested it to me years upon years ago and I felt really silly writing out my first cardlist Like Im a grown ass adult with a college degree and a job I should not need an index card to remind me to take a nap and drink tea when I feel crummy But it worked I was all befuzzled from anxiety because a family member was ill not COVID19 this was years ago and I looked at the card and did the things and I felt better So now I tell everyone about how much it helped me to have a physical list as a reminder because anxiety and depression can do weird things to your brain If lists or post it notes on the mirror or cell phone alarm reminders help you keep more on track thats freaking great Some coping skills and solutions feel silly but if they make your life easier thats a good thing|1 I agree with your statement whole heartedly Thats why it is a risk assessment necessary If that is a very low possibility there isnt a reason to shut down world economies If the likelyhood of that is high shut it down Hindsight is always 2020 but we cant armchair epidemiologist our way into a global poverty|0 Yep almost prototypical fake news|0 Ill bring the bats|0 Ill be sure to try and drag my boyfriend away from his video games to watch it with me then P|0 Maybe It was just news to me I thought they just sent a passenger jet to pick up people Like they had mentioned the Korean plane brought supplies but I didnt know about the US|1 We are testing in Italy the symptomatic only thats whyThis is the standard procedure to be tested1 You feel sick2 You call your GP He tells you to wait some days and if you cant breathe well you have to call another telephone number3 Only if you have specific symptoms you will be tested|0 Its not a rational response so it will never make senseWhat happened is that people are afraid They can really imagine drowning on dry land or being turned away from a hospital or a depression or their loved ones dying Buy what they can imagine is running out of food and toilet paper so they regain their sense of control by buying more than they need Footage of a crows scrambling for rolls might play real well on the news but its only a minute fraction of people Even if the 1 of the population literally filled their houses with it it still wouldnt account for the logistic problem Those empty shelves dont mean people are hoarding it means they are doing what the government told them to Prepare for quarantine by stocking up It may be unimaginable for people who live in rural areas or have appreciation for how fragile supply chains are but most people only keep four days worth of food in their homesFour daysNow that they have been told they need two weeks demand has more than doubled in a system that is overwhelmed by a 10 spike in demandAdd to that it becomes a self perpetuating cycle People see there is no TP when they need it so they buy more than normal the next time its available So then the shelves are empty again So the next lot of people who couldnt get any buy more than normalThere isnt any real shortage in most countries because they produce it domestically But the shortage is not caused by lack of supply but rather a logistical problem If it wasnt a large and bulky item say it was toothbrushes supermarkets could just put out five thousand times the regular amount during each restock and the problem would be solved But because TP takes up a lot of shelf and truck space there is a limit to how much extra they can put out each day|0 Im with you but it is a lost cause USA is a shitshow heading off a cliff Unfortunately they will bring alot down with them|0 ngl its kinda exciting probably wont be as exciting when i get it though|1 agree Im not a Democrat but well done Cuomo|0 Explain why Spain is struggling so much then Its 7080 out there|0 me too am in exactly the same position and I do not trust people to self isolate sigh|0 they should definitely get paid more to work at such timeand should be offered adequate protections while working such as facemask disinfectant and etc|1 As said above Shanghai had a lot of early travel from Hubei Zhejiang province in general has a lot of sick people already I have friends and family in Zhejiang who said hospitals there have a lot of cases|0 Okay youre almost there Now where does the government get their money from|1 Well what the actual fuck|0 Never thought Id envy the stadium food of a pandemic inflicted and quarantined Chinamen but here we are boys Im currently rationing my rice frozen peas and beans so I can avoid the grocery store|0 Yeah fuck him for being too accurate|0 Because people are taking more than they need and then trying to make a profit by selling them to those who dont have them They are opportunists just as bad as war profiteers|0 party member is worthless people in china can join the party easily while they are still in collegeAlso CCP offcials do not need from the rich to be elected So it is the gov rules the rich not the other way around therei would not say jack ma acts on behave of ccp on this|1 we are all the walking dead |0 Thanks Cause Ive seen and heard someone ate a bat and it spread from there Never seen a video of it though|1 In Seattle especially lots of people can work from home If Im not mingling with the public and not interacting with public surfaces I cannot spread it Whether or not anyone can trust any of the current numbers is wholly irrelevant to that logic and saying theres no way to slow it is foolish when there are very straightforward steps many of us can do to do exactly that|0 Exactly People are going crazy like this is the zombie apocalypse A little education shows that this is only slightly more deadly that the flu and marginally more contagious There wasnt this much panic with SARS or H1N1 It is roughly as contagious as Ebola and you dont see that sweeping across the globe killing millions and it is significantly more lethal than COVID19 People are weirdhttpswwwtelegraphcouknews20200302coronavirusvssarsflumers|0 Cheers from Grochw buddy|1 What are you talking about You implement measures early to slow the rate of infection This means people get infected at a slower rate This means fewer people need hospital at once This means they can all get treated This means fewer people dieYou implement social distancing measures over a long period of time to slow the infection rate to buy time for research better treatments expansion of healthcare facilities andor a vaccine You keep the infection rate slow by doing this and the people who do get infected and need hospital are then able to get the care they need if when you relax these measures more some more people get the virus you quickly isolate them contact trace and treat them Like theyre doing in South Korea You make the virus a slow rolling thing you dont just let it spread like wildfire at the beginning so the NHS gets overwhlemed in a matter of weeks so that people are dying of even other unrelated survivable causesYou have to start the measures early though to ensure you prevent overwhelm of the health system at the beginning Otherwise you get whats happened in Italy they implemented their measures after the health system was already getting overwhelmed This has led to more deaths We in the UK have seen that happen and we had the opportunity to stop the same thing happening here but our government have not done anything to enforce social distancing People are still going about infecting others They even admitted in todays press conference that they have no idea how many asymptomatic infectious carriers there are So they have no actual idea how many infected there are or how many are going to need hospital or intensive care in the next few weeks That unknown means they shouldve been clamping down weeks ago to ensure the NHS can cope and to save lives They are putting ideology above lives they are going with their libertarian laissez faire ideology of small government and just nudging people to do the right thing and hoping for the best Which doesnt work in our system because people are going to have to choose between maybe getting the virus or definitely losing their livelihoods so people will choose keeping their livelihoods and risking the virus which puts everyone at risk and increases deaths Its a terrible individualistic shortsighted survival of the fittest type ideology and I dont think enough people realised that this sort of thing is what the Tories stand for when they voted for them last year Its a real tragedy People dont actually want that type of society they want a society that has a strong collective approach that ensures its all for one one for all with a government that steps up to ensure the decent people are not prey to the indecentIm not a virologist but I know virologists and epidemiologists who have explained this all to me I work at a university Im an experimental psychologist so I do have a good understanding of statistics numbers and human behaviour But I dont think you even need to be a virologist to understand this point Im making because it is about pure numbers and logic|1 I think if there were a huge outbreak in India we would see a lot of exported cases the same way as we have with Iran|1 I wish I knew something to tell you but I am at the same loss myself I also have a 12 year old that is notorious about getting every germ because he has a low immune system cant be vaccinated had lung problems as a wee 3 month old etc How do I protect them from something I cant see I am just trying to stock the house up incase it becomes worst case scenario|0 Only because of Chinas massive population per person China has way worse healthcare than European countries though Which means their mortality values should be worse not better Look at people in Wuhan we have messages barely anyone is getting the ICU treatment they need Hospitals are overfull there are not enough ICU units|0 Capitalism isnt that bad unless the main leading person isnt an idiot|1 Im so so grateful that my husband humored me and stocked up on stuff I had to fight tooth and nail to get him to pretend to take it seriously and Im glad I didnt give up I do wish I was wrong through |1 this is great advice colloidal silver and a nebulizer since this is basically a variant of sars with an 80 composition we can safely discern that getting any sort of medicationtreatment directly into the lungs is preferable especially in timely fashion I would probably try this sort of treatment before allowing a medical professional to touch me unless I was in absolutely critical condition Colloidal silver solution seems like one of the best choices in either case and directly injecting that into the lungs is even better I would also consider oil of oregano but inhaling that sounds like a dangerous proposition unless anyone else can chime on this|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Every country cares the image Why do you think lie about the numbers at this stage would help the save image China has the most confirmed cases already|1 Yeah no one should be planning a home birth just because of this virus The hospitals will shuffle things to keep capacity for looking after mothers and babiesHomebirth has its place and can be safe when done right but you dont do it because you think a pandemic has taken away your choices Talk to your ob or midwife|1 No one knows yet is the true answer China have 11 cases a day atm though so theyre doing something right The of fatalities in the other 2 countries is under 1 They must be doing something right In Italy the death toll is much higher due to not getting ahead of it |0 South Koreans also wear masks and respirators as a matter of course We EDIT strongly suspect that the viral loaddose can affect the severity of the illness Therefore it is possible that widespread masking wearing has reduced the virulence to some extent|0 I cant Im a first responder so were out here no matter what Everyone else stay the FUCK home so we dont have to waste resources on wrecks and shit|0 More than likely such people wouldnt grasp the implications on things beyond their physical wellbeingTo get your grandma to wear one try these 1 I love you method followed by the why you should wear one regardless of its usefulness It usually works 2 I have no sympathy for you method hammering into her about her reluctance to take precautions and lack of responsibilities for her own wellbeing Followed by if you do get infected youll have a decent chance at dying and that is not on me or If you are infected and die goodbye Walk off after Itll damage relationships depending on her ego but at least shell think|0 I am not a doctor but I do have significant experience in the medical fieldYour friend would probably be tested if he told his doctor he had exposure to someone who tested positive for covid19 or if he said he had exposure to someone who became sick from China or Italy Not much verification would be done about this Do not go to an ED and do this but its the likely outcome Try not to lie to your doctor|1 Glad I could be of service lol Gotta admit its got a pretty good chance of working right |1 Unversity of guelph as well|1 Last night all the kids in my village were all stood together on a street corner in a gang So they werent self isolating at all They might as well be in school if they are still going to be together|1 Thanks Bill and thanks for my career|1 Thats awesome Almost 50 less new cases than yesterday Are going to see 1k by the end of the weekI suspect the rest of China will report 200 cases|1 Well pretty sure WHO told us its not big deal just a couple of weeks ago|1 The rule of thumb is that you need one gallon of water per person per day half a gallon for drinking more if it is hot or the person is sick and half a gallon for washing and cooking etcThat means a two week supply is going to be 14 gallons per person in your household at least half of which needs to be potableYou should certainly buy some bottles of water but it might be a good idea to figure out some sort of bulk storage too|1 Youd think they should considering the economy is going to be hit so hard|0 He was being quite misleading about the curve in China and South Korea They didnt manage to curb the spread by simply doing nothing they enacted some stringent measures to have that type of curve|0 Big jump in ICU again today More people admitted to ICU than recovered isnt a good sign|0 Now the world is experiencing the pain and horror of the Chinese experienced 2 months ago Every day I wake up and open my phone or tv I can only see bad news Yesterday we got no increase and a day later we got 100 new cases And a few days later we got nearly 1000 new cases All we saw and hear about the virus is how terrifying it is and how miserable the people who cannot get treated cause hospitals are overloaded First its the long incubation period Then its asymptomatic Then its sudden fatality just like what this post said I guarantee If no measure takes to stop it it will get worse and become another China At that time people are not working every city takes some kind of lockdown or quarantine policy and probably the only thing that still manufacturing is medical supplies I am Chinese and this is what I feel and experience in the past two months|0 vaccines dont really help in that case reallyturn it around what its the mortality rate of all causes neglecting ageim 22 its probably 005 for meyall need to stop panicking over this|0 Thanks for the props but I actually made it with NotabilityApple Pencil hehe|1 Many stupid people on the internet who have no reading comprehension lol|0 If the death percentage was like 90 it would probably stir me from my Netflix addiction|0 My parents are in SA and Im pissed as well Is that how viruses work though Is there such thing as not enough virus to spread it|0 Yep even shitty cloth masks reduce your own shedding of fluids from mouth and nose It doesnt protect you You are correct It doesnt protect me it protects you|0 I thought the trials were double blind so this doctor should in theory not know which patient is given the placebo which patient the actual drug|0 Well I guess it technically was an if before it became endemic|1 Its basically like goddamn|0 But those are literally the only cases for which physicians are allowed to request confirmatory testing If there is no direct link to China or another confirmed case then I literally cannot test So of course almost all confirmed positives can be traced back to China|1 Ill say it again Fear does nothing I am taking all of the precautions everyone has mentioned Even when I say Im worried about the economy I still have a Dont fret the things you cant control attitude for the most partImagine me giving you this advice If you ever run into any serious problems fire in a movie theater active shooter what you should do is panic Crawl into a little ball and cry Everything will then be OK Thats hyperbolic but you get my pointI do not understand why people are conflating Im not afraid with Its not a problem|0 Lmao they got so dodgy on that and the has the president been tested questionWorthless fucks|0 Had all the cores of my Ryzen 5 as well as my RTX 2060 going on and off for a couple days now Got about 15 or so WUs done so far |1 They werent locked in homes they were locked in Apartment complexes Id expect much greater spread in Hubei than we are seeing even now|1 UK is able to mass coordinate across the health service far better than somewhere like the USA We will be cancelling all non essential healthcare routine surgery etc and converting all available resources to combat the virus over the following months We can adapt operating rooms post surgery rooms to ICUs Its still going to be a massive shitshow but far far better than the States They havent been testing barely at all and barely contact tracing self isolating Their exponential curve is going to be far steeper far sooner Weve had ours relatively under control over the last few weeks In the states we are hearing stories of healthcare professionals falling sick after treating nCov patients and still unable to get tested|0 Yes confirmed cases will always be less than actual infections Trevor Bedfords analysis sort of suggests that the stringency it the testing guidelines have put the confirmed cases much further behind than necessary The first known case in the Seattle region was present Jan 15 and subsequent sequence analysis of other cases found in mid February shows that they were likely community transferred The models for how this would play out show that there must be far more cases in the community than we would even expect normally The initial guidelines for whether to test an individual are stringent and so were not at all casting a net to sample and relying on testing highly symptomatic patients only|1 what might really suck is if your internet goes down and your provider doesnt have enough employees to fix it right away|0 So people with suppressed immune systems would be better off in this case If hat were true 80 year olds with aging and very weakened immune systems should survive but are not doing so|1 Well this is now apparently a Coronavirus and Canadian homeowner advice subreddit Planning to port our mortgage over for a new house purchase This could be a good opportunity or a disaster|1 What a disgrace Reddit is garbage|0 Id like to point out that these are recovery rates with medical systems that have not been stressedoverwhelmed with volumeThe care given per patient when its 1 in a state is much different than the care given when its 200 in the same hospitalTheres a limited supply of dialysis machines and respirators exceed that capacity and people who would have survived with assistance instead perish|1 So would this be like meningitis|1 Never second guess your personal safety brother|1 It actually still probably would a little better than nothing|1 So posts stating that they created and plan to test a vaccine but it wont be ready or mass produced for 1218 months is in your opinion all part of some propaganda to fight short term panic Thats the stupidest fucking thing ive read on here this week OP is the very definition misinformation Cant tell if a desperate doomer or a nitwit antivacc|0 Except in hell|0 My husband works in a few different schools Im really worried about him catching it I told him to text his boss and explain my situation but hes refused to do this X|0 Shanghai isnt China long term expat also in ShanghaiThat said we Shanghai residents have no idea what is really going on other than we can see people going back to workThe zombie herd is about to be released I fully expect a 2nd wave of new infections and many of them will be unreported hospitals could become overcrowded just like Wuhan except on a much larger scaleIll assume its safe when the kids are back in school for a month until then anything could happenAnother reference point the US embassy isnt doing visa interviews until JuneEven if its all groovy in Shanghai which it isnt the rest of the world still has to deal with this|1 I didnt say anything about that But thats not sick leave Please stop with trying to read between the lines on my posts and realize that sick leave is not for healthy people without good reason That would be some type of emergency lockdown leaveYou sound like someone who is buying 10 cases of bottled water and toilet paper Im gonna block you have a nice day wash your hands and try to stay healthy|0 basically my roommates smh|0 When you spread the info that fucking raping a virgin cures you from HIV|0 Oh yah I think these confirmed cases were all base on kits back then and no clinically diagnosis numbers yet but I dont remember 100 The actual I dont want to use true numbers are very likely to be much higher|1 US is totally fucked The vast majority do not have 2 weeks of sick leave Many only have a few days Those who are in decent jobs can take FMLA but that is unpaid and combined with the medical bills this will incur a whole lot of folks are going to lose their shirtsWe are in for seriously dark times ahead|0 Exactly Just wait it out We arent gonna starve Canada produces tons of food and toilet paper Even if there are supply line issues we ll eat|1 and one of those tests was a crew member of the ship hisher result was negativebut something tells me it was a false negative|0 Please provide a source for this|1 Human Lives Profits|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 you can travel inside the zone and have to go to work 16 million people are still free to infect each other|1 This is common in Canada as well|1 Take a look at Pukul Habishttpsgoodyfeedcom5interestingfactsdidntknow1991pukulhabisoperationcuzyourenotbornyet In case you dont wish to read Habis means wipeoutcomplete destruction This is what some people want Even with a conscripted army Singapore is still massively outnumbered There are more incidents But there is a good reason why conscription exists Ive served I hated it but I did my best there Like it or not it really is a necessity|1 I think I had swine flu I think its the closest to death Ive ever been I had my back against a burning radiator had a north face coat that our company gave us to wear in Finland on had 2 duvets wrapped around me and was still cold Like I will stab you if you dare try take this from me cold I should have been in hospital really So if this is worse Im very scared|0 Your lack of faith disturbs me Healthcare personell 2020|0 Boom This right here Cause that asinine comment Lebron made about not playing without a audience was douchey and out of touch|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thanks will refer to the news source and amend|1 The mongs of reddit still believe they know better I see|1 I plan on wiping with my cat at first until he scratches the shit out of me Then Ill turn my shower into a bidet God willing all of that cat hair and shit will go down That reminds me DrainO tomorrow|1 You forget the EDU portion that would have started Monday|0 Most ERs have isolation rooms for individuals with contagious illnesses The hospital floors all have negative pressure rooms for this as well No need to build a separate building|0 I doubt this is even real China is only letting WHO personal see small hospitals and couldnt keep with the low number lies anymore|0 Cool thank you for the idea|1 A lot of people dont understand that the small window of opportunity has been closed down and welded shut weeks ago unfortunately|1 No just an asshole that thinks they are funny|1 They will count if they get tested The person dies it wont count The person gets treated and get better it wont countThis has been happening for weeks but these people dont count|1 You cant predict the peak though and there is more than one waveIt was easy for me to say it but the decisions to be made are like a ticket of thorns The people going into the age cohort quarantine would have to have a common understanding that its not a free holiday You saw already how the people on the Diamond Princess fucked it up|0 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 How can they say the death rate is 14 when 936 of the patients are still in the hospital|0 Note the CDC is not my agency and I do not have any inside information on what is going on there But I do have experience in the federal government and enough experience so that I can make educated guesses as to what might be going on hereFirst the only way to understand anything the federal government does is to get superconcrete about the process and the outcome you are interested inHere the outcome of interest is the updating schedule for one publicfacing website depending on data collected by one division in one of the twelve centers plus additional institutes and offices that makes up the CDC Making a global statement about the CDC is likely to be misleading at bestNow I dont have any detailed information about how this one publicfacing website is updated but what I can say is that public tolerance for errors on publicfacing websites in the federal government is basically zero at least for data that is of interest to any appreciable number of people So whereas you or I or any of the incredibly dedicated nongovernmental efforts to keep data updated on one of the resources in the list to the right of this post could probably get away with saying Oops those cases we said were in Montana were actually in Missouri or fixed doublecounting of some cases that were reported to us twice by accident if that happened on the government website I think you can imagine the level of outrageSo what this implies is that the Division of Viral Diseases at NCIRD again one of 12 centers at the CDC is going to follow a consistent albeit excruciating process to make sure the numbers they are getting from states public health officials are consistent along every dimension of interest eg is the case a test positive or presumptive positive Is it travelrelated or known community spread or actually still under investigation which is most of them currently And then you want to make sure every state is using the same reporting deadline and so you decree what that is appears to be 4 PM EasternAnd then you get to vet all this stuff and most likely do quality checks back with the states if there are any outstanding issues and then at some magic moment that everybody knows about you really do publish the latest number Now do I think they should have made whatever adjustments were needed to do a Saturday and Sunday number Well probablybut that will ultimately depend on what each of the states is willing and able to do with reporting But given the sensitivity of the public number you really cant have a high tolerance for things that are different over the weekend for whatever reasonNow inside of elsewhere at CDC do I think they are getting a lot more realtime data even on evenings and weekends Yeah I would like to think so but I am willing to bet there are a lot more compelling things to be looking at than something like the total number of cases in any one jurisdiction which is the biggest part of the public interestNow to be sure parts of the CDC have been political footballs for quite some time And I am absolutely sure that there will be ton of additional investigation about testing fiasco and the bizarre interaction with the relevant pieces of FDA again not a monolithic thing over approval And the quality of coordination between federal agencies involved in the response has obviously been an issueBut to form your opinion about the CDC as a whole from the process that they follow to update one hot button webpage is in my opinion unlikely to lead to a realistic plan to change the agency or its mission for the better or achieve better results in this public health crisis|1 In NYC I seriously dont see how I wont I press elevator buttons with my elbows and even if I change my schedule to be places when theyre less crowded if I get into an empty elevator at midnight and someone who was in there at 930pm shed the virus into the air I can still get it And thats not even considering how many people are on the subway Which is also a massive vein crossing through manhattan and into basically every borough Were all going to get it|0 upinata26 go ahead a tag me like you did now when we find the origin because Im 98 sure that it isnt engineered 2 unsure Just because I say something is possible doesnt mean i think it is the case Until then adis|1 No I was just born on that base lived there for like 8 years|1 Thank you I now feel retarded|0 drinking corona beer kills the corona virus amiright|0 why is this labeled unconfirmed source|0 Because them going bankrupt wasnt enoughLets add this to the growing lost of why they suck ass|0 My MIL said she had to contact her doctor for them to order tests or something I feel like the CDC is dropping the ball|1 Well said|1 Agreed but point still stands |1 Yes thank you it is insane|1 Claim Face masks dont workWearing a face mask is certainly not an ironclad guarantee that you wont get sick viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles known as aerosols can penetrate masks However masks are effective at capturing droplets which is a main transmission route of coronavirus and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone although others have found lower levels of effectiveness|1 Chinese people can enter Iran visafree since last year but I doubt there would be many Chinese tourists in the past month with the IranUS tension|0 Well said|1 Let them let them all wipe themselves out For everyone elseIts simple Make one trip get everything you need for the next 23 months go the fuck home and dont move Your bills mean nothing right nowThis is a nationwide freeze Blow your wad bunker down let society crumble and then demand to be picked up when things blow overFood and water is your most important necessityIt will be boring the next few years do not look good for the economy but well be fine if everyone just refuses to leave and stays home|1 This actually was easier for my brain to parse|1 The chinese obviously know more about the true nature of CoV|1 It must be total panic at the hospital|0 BNO hasnt updated in 6 hours Its really putting a damper on my obsessive checking|0 Please the WHO has been downplaying it until they declared it a pandemic this week The US govt might have sucked at handling it but lets not change the facts and let it remain in history that WHO has been and continues to be an incompetent shitty organization that doesnt actually care about general society and asskisser for the rich and China|0 Well the good news is now that everyone can see your vast training and understanding of the situation we will all be able to follow your commentary closely A small tip for you the nearterm cost of stopping air travel from China to the rest of the world would be a drop in the ocean compared to turning 1st world cities into something like Wuhan is right now|1 Yeah Unfortunately were still in class Im actually walking to one right now only so much that we can do If it was up to me we would have been online a long time ago|0 I bet they will be commemorated as some historic classand unfortunately theyll have less education to start withhopefully the experience makes up for it|0 Im know a guy who made 20K off selling masks to China as well as what I believe are test kitsCompletely lost respect for him after I found out|1 What bothers me is how much theyve been dragging their feet You cant tell me that US intelligence didnt know the gravity of the situation weeks ago in Wuhan and the very real potential for spread with all the flights Thats just ridiculous We shouldve been testing for weeks now Preventative measures saves lives I have no sympathy for the choices and decisions that have been a made dealing with this The state department sent home infected passengers on the same airplane as uninfected passengers from the diamond princess cruise ship On top of that HHS employees met evacuees with no PPE gear I thought we were the best of the best Nobodys as great as us We have the best people Im just an average Joe I cannot believe the response so far|1 Am American Your observations are accurate If nothing else this pandemic is exposing just how broken the American government is when it comes to protecting its citizens The government and our banking system prioritizes profits over lives Its disgusting|0 Sorry for being ignorant bit what does gaslighting mean|0 Tonight after the debate During it if theyre giant assholes|0 Only until hospitals become overwhelmed and they have a problem like a car accident|0 Whos responsibility is it if not the governmentsIt is in the national interest slow the infection rate and to keep sick people home With the known R0 of this virus 4K per month is a bargainUS T bills are paying less than inflation Illusions to Weimar Germany are a tad overblown|0 Rain sleet snow and apparently death|0 In 1918 the city of Philadelphia threw a parade that killed thousands of people Ignoring warnings of influenza among soldiers preparing for World War I the march to support the war effort drew 200000 people who crammed together to watch the procession Three days later every bed in Philadelphias 31 hospitals was filled with sick and dying patients infected by the Spanish fluBy the end of the week more than 4500 were dead in an outbreak that would claim as many as 100 million people worldwide By the time Philadelphias politicians closed down the city it was too late|0 Reporting error causes the ludicrous rise over run The ccp data is like a piece of invisible shit|0 Probably the best and most informative post on this sub yet Hopefully this starts to substantially put some of the speculation and worrying to rest|1 Just saying the actual Flu IS going around right now Im in the Denver area and Flu strain A is hitting hard I know this because my 8 year old son tested positive for strain A and it was the sickest he has ever been in his entire life It was nightmare quality I got it too but it was tolerable for me And this was with us getting our yearly flu shotI agree that some coronavirus cases probably are getting mistaken for the flu and going undetected But we cant jump to full on conspiracy theories without any facts If youre sick then go get a rapid flu test Get that fact before you start panicking about something else And its typical to have a lingering cough even after youve beaten the flu|0 but hes not allowed to do something unless Congress makes a law that gives him the power to do itAgain employees of the Federal Government are not members of the press US Public Health Officials work for the Executive Branch which means their bosses eventually are Mike Pence and Donald Trump Your boss can tell you what you can and cannot say publicly about your companyIf you cannot understand this distinction you are wasting your time here|0 No|0 I think its stuff that most people the 99 that havent been paying attention really havent thought about And even if everyone read this normalcy bias would prevail and people would carry on with their belief that it wont happen hereIt cant happen here|0 this is so true I was so hyped when it was released and my friends and me played daily and often met up just to roam the city hunting pokemonx200BBut then one after the other everyone stopped because the game had like 0 features outside of the actual pokemon catchingx200BNow that Ive picked it up again its really great because there is almost too much to do But Id rather miss out on some stuff than having nothing to do|1 Western leaders makes the same mistake|0 the reason why they welded some people in is because they refused quarantinein that case I certainly agree with the policy|1 That is the most amazing thing I have heard from this pandemic|1 Please dont forget the thoughts We needs thoughts AND prayers|1 Not surprised I went through 8 years of George W Bush People reelected that guy|0 SlowveniaEdit Love it btw|1 A clothes dryer gets close to that Perhaps use the shoe rack and run your gear in there One mistake though|0 If I am able to harvest the spirit of the wolfthen Im in|1 Same Im surprised she said that I bet she changes her mind in a week But still very concerning But if the house and senate want to have a higher chance of getting it so be it|1 The cruise left 15 days ago At the time there were only 14 diagnosed cases in the United States excluding those flown in from outside and all messaging was that risk to the US public was low The decision is quite different when looked at through the lens of what we know today|0 Good to see the government working together across the aisle for the betterment of our citizens|1 Honestly no Im actively enjoying not being crazy I have my supply cupboard and I can watch The Scramble of the Unprepared in the supermarket across the road from my house|1 sounds like the start of a wonderful manga|1 it would be nice for them to do something then instead of saying you dont know anyone whos confirmed so we wont test that just means were not identifying if its spreading in the community so we arent locking down|1 Take home finals never disappeared all my upper level classes exclusively do take home finals|1 At least he declared it a public health emergency back in January 31st|0 Pathetic Senator looking for something new to blame Trump for and start impeachment 30 so he can distract the world from the fact they are a pathetic party of empty suits|0 Oh shit you right you right|0 It doesnt help that the vice president our Corona Czar is reinforcing the idea that its all a plan by democrats to kill millions of people httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar01coronavirusmikepencedonaldtrumpjrdemocratsmillionsdieHow the fuck are the less informed and under informed people supposed to take this seriously now Its like theyre scared to give a proper response lest theyre made to look weak|0 And dont forget to hit the bell so you get notifications whenever I infect a new country|1 Dont forget our sister sub rCOVID19support which we set up for a qualified therapist who posted on rcoronavirus offering to help Its a great place for people to feel free to air their anxieties and get support from the community Youre welcome to post there|1 Idk about the others but the CEO of Disney has been trying to slide into stepping down for awhile because of retirement|0 Rape capital of Europe|0 You are a scholar Thank you|1 I like to hover over the buttons with my mouth and then proceed to French kiss the elevator buttons builds the immune system nice and strong Im pretty much immune to this shit by now so fuck it|1 It just makes an impression on me that youve chosen this precise moment a moment of crisis that requires action for handling the crisis to make sweeping statements about tolerance to corruption and what not Im not saying this to dismiss your point but still its telling of your motivation Youre not speaking out of reason youre speaking out of fear and ignorance Hallmarks of xenophobia like it or notThis asideYes theres corruption and abuse in China There is everywhere And you standing tall and proud and slapping your hand on the desk and saying I demand change actually is not going to achieve change Itll serve just as an empty gesture of arrogance and sever diplomatic ties rather than build them stronger Without diplomacy whats left but war Is this how you want to get this done Do you think you even have the chance toDo you know the saying keep your friends close your enemies closer What do you think it means You dont change someone through angry demands and penalties Look how far that led us in North Korea If you cant change a tiny powerless poor country for the better with this approach how exactly do you hope to change a giant powerful and relatively rich country like China using the same approachYour entire idea of how to handle this situation is completely impotent All you have is your outrage anger and fearHeres a clue China is changing a whole lot on its own Ask anyone living there Ask Americans living there theyll tell you Its becoming more democratic every year more capitalist But you cant force generational changes without you know generations changing It wont happen overnight You can have understanding patience and gently push the process forward faster with soft skills Or you can be angry and make demands about CHANGE NOW and reverse that process What else you have to offer here|0 Search for coronavirus vs fluhttpswwwgooglecomsearchrlz1C1CHBFenKR746KR746tbscdr3A12Ccdmax3A12F312F2020sxsrfALeKk02FYnknskfwGcHBIXdCNU3QY6sOw3A1583149045893ei9e9cXsfNaLVmAWDb0Iqcoronavirusvsfluoqcoronavirusvsflugslpsyab30l31551516984177610001397910j601gwswiz35i39j0i67j0i10j0i7i30j0i20i263j0i7i10i30sjKmHfQgDAcved0ahUKEwiHzobk2fvnAhWiKqYKHYNDwEQ4dUDCAsuact5 on google before February and you come up with results likeUSA Todayhttpswwwusatodaycomstorynewshealth20200124coronavirusversusfluinfluenzadeadlierthanwuhanchinadisease4564133002 Coronavirus vs flu Influenza deadlier than Wuhan China Axioscomhttpswwwaxioscomcoronavirusinfluenzadiseasechinaunitedstates64311582203140af8ec39ff68341d4f3html The flu is much deadlier than the Chinese coronavirus AxiosBuzzFeedNewshttpswwwbuzzfeednewscomarticledanverganocoronaviruscasesdeathsflu Dont Worry About The Coronavirus Worry About The Flu|0 Ask yourself have you gone out to get pizza drive thru the store for supplies in the past week How many people have this and arent showing signs so dont even know to quarantine themselvesunless everyone in America can afford to stay home stay inside and work from home for a whole month theres no way to quarantine everybody this will spread like wildfire soon esp since our leaders on this thing are fucking incompetent|0 I live in cobb county ga A place with 1 confirmed case in a neighboring county and 1 in cobb And my school has a program that incentivizes students to go to school even if they are sick Oh boy|0 I dunno man is pretty much the crappiest brand|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Atleast half your office gets to WFH My large 500 person company isnt letting anyone WFH yet and 95 of employees could easily do so|1 It may be very early in the course of the disease to make that assumption Also we dont know how many people have already died which werent diagnosed|0 Unfortunately it may be true yet it is close to the conspiracy theories Not everyone are aware of but most European countries are technically bankrupt with enormous pension obligations and also future pension obligations combined with shrinking population of workers and a little seasoning of minimal economic growth|0 Lol That was too short of a time ago to be the cause But the fact that he did it means he probably contracted the virus doing something equally stupid Get well and smarter Gobert|1 Yeah I feel like after all this im gonna have a two week food supply rotated out for shelf life Along with hella face masks gloves hand sanitizer and LysolSide note For a few months Ive been wondering if I should throw out all the extra Lysol cans my old housemate left Im so glad I didnt|1 in a line of speeches from the PM and health officials it was also said that a united parliament from left to right was behind financial support for suffering businesses big and small that young people had to understand their responsibility as potential carriers and that thousands had reported as volunteers in health care when and if the system bucklesfinally the queen spoke get your act together she said in so many words|1 Which will in turn kill many|0 Yeah and he didnt seek treatment until this morning I wonder if he was contagious|0 Oh no not the case Im a chef so we use them whenever we deep clean cause of strong chemicals|1 I told this guy at work he should call some divisions he is needing advice from I said especially with what is going on now He smiles and laughs Then tells meNo I DO NOT DO online or by phone things I will go to EACH one in personhe was loud and proud He essentially now is wasting probably 34 days what could get done in two hours on the phoneLike Idefk I just dont understand what goes through boomers heads|1 Cant tell if joking or not|0 I been going to Costco for two days stocking up Got like 200 rolls of toilet paper soap food with long shelf life clorox wipes etc my car was so full so i has to split into two trips|1 its how you know this all bullshit motherfuckers are a bunch of fear mongers fuck chinas numbers look at the fuckin world shit is nothing more than bait and yall think youre smart fuck outta hear pasty fetus ass fucks this shit phony|0 I remember him saying thatIm at a loss for words|0 Sure and they are peddling the stories that Americans are believing leading the sheep over the edge of a cliffetc|1 Thats false In an ideal lab setting you could probably get it to live on something for a week but its not going to survive on a porous surface like a cardboard box while its shipped overseas This is all completely dependent on the surface conditions and the amount of sun and warmth the surface itself gets though|1 Not supporting what the surgeon general is saying but I also dont like it when people state incorrect facts online Upvote downvote I dont care really I did my part|0 Atlanta is a gigantic airport and surprisingly it is the airport with the highest traffic in the world and has been for a great number of years I think last year it had almost 110 million passengers come through Wild right SourcehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHartsfieldE28093JacksonAtlantaInternationalAirport and traffic statshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHartsfieldE28093JacksonAtlantaInternationalAirportStatistics|1 It would be good even if they just ended spring training games and waited for regular season Could still practice and prepare but without the traveling A few more weeks will give a better idea of how fast its spreading|1 Except that historically virus outbreaks never sustained growth like that over long period of time but this post is exactly what most of commentators on this sub love|1 I hope you accidentally dropped this s |1 lol no Trump is a germaphobe|1 Hey thank youI literally just now saw this |1 Here in italy if you have Coronavirus and even though you break the rules and dont quarantine yourself you risk in addition to the procedure for violating the provisions of the authority a trial for injuries or attempted voluntary injuries punishable by three to seven years If you were to infect sick or immunosuppressed people to the point of death the offense could be transformed into malicious murder under penalty of imprisonment of up to 21 years The same thing occurs if those who suspect that they are sick continue to have social relationships without taking precautions|0 Hes 65 obese cant see shit has COPD tons of consumer debt never has taken a gun safety class ectGetting a second gun to mow down the end of the world rioters should be pretty low on the list of things to do I love shooting and have done so a few times but the need to hoard guns and ammo is silly|1 Dear god This is a joke right This is supposed to help us Going through this burdensome process to take out loans that Ill have to pay back Fuck me|0 This is confusing at best My moms on losartan and Ive read at least two papers claiming that ARBs increase ACE2 levels but that serves to paradoxically protect patients from fatal or even severe outcomes in both SARS and SARSCoV2 infectionsI feel it is irresponsible that lancet is publishing something without concrete data|0 If the air quality is 10x that of LA you could vape rats dipped in smoke and still be onto a good thing|1 Omg thats horrible Im so sorry Why were your lungs failing Im glad you healed up Im deathly afraid of being sedated and put on ventilator and more afraid of not being able to be put on ventilator God bless u|0 If you go through that route there is a lot of paperwork and bullshit involved and ud better be damn sure you have covid or youll be fired for sure|0 In addition to this feel free to add a bracket with the country of origin to the start of your post ie USA or Germany etc along with properly flairing your posts|1 What am I going to tell my landlord and auto finacer when they want their rent and car payment|1 takes bite of rockhard rottenlooking foodWow what amazing flavour|1 There is no containing it at this point its going to spread Flattening the curve is the best thing they could do at this point as 30 of people in the US are expected to contract the disease It feels like governments are more concerned with lessening the financial impact of the disease than taking preventative measures|1 I am so happy Had plans to go to Disney with family We cancelled a few days ago but they were still going to go Was so worried about them|0 I live in SH and the Lockdown in my area is just getting a ticket when you leave the residence and using anti bacterial alcohol on the elevator buttonsBut sensational title always work for cheap media|0 Noah Gundersen did a hell of an acoustic Instagram live today and says more will happen|0 I understand but staying busy really helps with the fear Having somewhere to channel that energy As long as you dont go obsessive with it and go overboard it can be really therapeutic|1 Quarantines need to have a little teeth Stay home or go to jail we will check It cant just be a suggestion or people will pick up on that and think it isnt serious|1 Why not all three More seriously they may have resources now but given how majority test there are probably many undiagnosed cases so no country can afford to risk|0 Spanish flu caused those with normal immune systems to mount a strong response due to the ability of the virus to stimulate their immune systen It lead to a cytokine storm that meant those who would normally survive most infections quickly died from their fever whilst sparing the very young and infirm|1 Also CDC rules prevented testing for community transmission CDC incompetence meant a lack of test kits Trump rules prevented hiring for 700 open jobs Trump dissolved the pandemic response team|0 Its illegal in South Africa to cut your water supply too The power and watersewerageetc services are linked though so if you dont pay theyll cut your power|0 No I know how totalitarian governments terrified of losing control dont relax restrictions until they actually believe things are getting under control But I agree there is a very real risk things getting more relaxed will lead to a second wave of the outbreak|0 Make sure you are taking appropriate social distance measures If you cant get a mask to wear then use anything from a scarf to a bandana It wont stop it up close but at least lower the radius at which you could be exposed httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutpreventiontreatmenthtmlPlease keep yourself safe|1 Im in Mass I was being hyperbolic with the fights thing Just comments But were a small city very east coast in attitude I was also pretty edgy over having to make trips when I thought Id done all my public errands done|1 I never said trivial I said it would get under control I didnt say you shouldnt prepare I said you shouldnt cause panic to the point where people buy out supermarkets for a disease with a 1 death rate that might at worst be cause for a 12 week decontamination period to protect the weaker parts of society|0 And youre gay Wtf out of all the people who would have empathy Id expect it out of a homosexualCheck the profile history He or she is clearly gay Its not an assumption Gays experience some of the worst types of bigotry in the world I would expect that a gay person would have a little more empathy for everyone|0 Does selfquarantine mean they died aloneHas suicide been a factor|0 State testing was literally shut down by the Feds and they insisted on using the CDC Then the White House took over all communications and decisions for the CDC to complete the coverupWhat you describe is the way it should have been but not the way it played out|1 Remember that when the Government thanks us for saving their seat while they isolated|1 Lol I dont know how to format on Reddit sorrz It was supposed to be a list lol|1 Knowing how petty he is i wouldnt be surprised if the intention was to simply undermine Europe|0 Bonus points if you update her with the new totals as soon as she wakes up|1 So last week when everything was just starting to roll downhill NBA shut down large group bans etc and Italy was announcing the country wide shut down my husband I went to grab some food we needed for over the weekend We spent an extra 1520 minutes grabbing some small toys and candy because in my mind USA might get to the place we are now and I didnt want to be like lady mentioned above Would I do Easter shopping now Hell no But I can understand the mindset that in this time were its scary and unknown how its going to be day by day and my children are home from school indefinitely we all need a little bit of a sense of normalcy While Easter bunny baskets really are the last thing on my mind itll be nice in a couple weeks to have a few new small toys to give to them so they dont go crazy with cabin fever to give them a treat when we arent able to go to my sons birthday party or what have you I dont condone her behavior but I can say I understand why|1 Yup that puts the current number of infected in us into perspective So its at least double if not quadruple|0 came here for exactly this thanks for delivering|1 Honestly the healthcare providers are freaking heros Takes guts to take on the task|1 Theres no way officials could know of every case Lancet estimates by February 4 theyll know of 5 of cases Meaning they probably know of about that many now Meaning that when there were 2000 confirmed cases there were probably 38000 uncofirmed casesThere were 1400 confirmed cases in Wuhan Meaning there were probably 28000 cases in total The population of Wuhan is 11M Meaning the infected rate is 0254If there are 208 passengers on an A330 plane its trivial to roughly approximate the probability that someone on the plane is infected with this formula11IR208Since IR is infected rate and that is 000254 you can ROUGHLY APPROXIMATE like so1100025420841 chance someone on the plane is was infectedIts obviously WAY more complicated than that Not every plane is full Not every plane seats 208 passengers Not every passenger originated in Wuhan Not every Wuhan person has an equal chance of being infected and so onBut given that there are a TON of planes trains and busses going in and out of Wuhan especially at this time of year its not surprising the virus has spread like it has|0 How does attempted murder sound|0 I called my local ER and got put into the Triage nurse line Waited a while to hear a very stressed out and annoyed woman tell her coworker with me on the phone how done she was and if one more person calls about corona shes going to screamShe didnt scream I made her laugh but it goes to show you how pointless it is NOW to go to the hospitals They are going to be overwhelmed in moments Even in states where it has not been detected much She did tell me that if I was showing symptoms they were most likely going to send me home due to my age That there is no cure That they treat the symptoms Fever IPprofin cough Cough medicine difficulty breathing humidifyier or a ventalator if serious Also if you are not on your death bed They are sending EVERYONE home and keeping electronic tabs on repeat callers and panicers You can only get tested by order of your primary physician Not the ER If they determine you have it and are mild they send you home with orders to self isolate THATS IT THats what I was told Its very odd Its like the weirdness with all the toilet paper buying I saw some people fighting over it and while they were fighting people were stealing rolls off their carts But just toilet paper People like me who bought potatoes onions cabbage and carrots left alone barring a few why you getting that for im like you can live off this for months Also I dont use two rolls of toilet paper when I wipe after a shit Im a folder conserve and fold bitch Lady thought I was crazy|0 16 is the low end of the mortality estimate range at the moment But this we are barely at 150k infections thing is meaningless First of all unchecked that number would grow exponentially until it got 5070 of the population It would actually get there in just a few months but again thats if it was left uncheckedWe are checking it All this stuff that some people complain about is whats going to prevent that scenario But even still all we are really doing is slowing it down Its still ultimately likely to eventually infect the same number of people unless it can be fully contained which seems unlikelyThat said if we slow it down for the next year and then have a vaccine we can definitely head off a 1 million dead scenario To pretend its inconceivable however is just to be bad at math Thats a total failure to understand how exponential growth works Look at how long it took to get from 1 to 50000 a couple months Now look at how long it took to get from 100000 to 150000 barely a week|0 Just ban all travel to and from China already|0 There are universities that brought students back from infected countries with out precautions there are university big companies that held big events with thousands this all could have been containted months ago with common sense and putting lives over money|0 A 30 yr old in the next county over from me has the virus and is in critical condition with no apparent underlying health problems They went to the doctor like 10 days ago and got sent home now apparently very illThats sure making me take it more seriously the idea that young and healthy people will be fine isnt always true I guess Also this person was out and about for like 2 weeks probably infecting people in my area|1 Spanish influenza was the flu Look how that turned out And even if Im wrong and it blows over I still took measures to prepare myself for the worst case scenario Its a lossless gamble these items and supplies will last for a long time and be preparation for any future civil collapse scenario|0 Yeah cuz they know the next few months are about to rain in profits|1 I have a union job thats absolutely garbage Unions arent always amazing ours is literal trash thats ran over by upper management day in and day out|0 I ve said it these past days and its rude but I have to say itThe USA is a developing country in my view Theyre not a developer country The American dream is indeed in Canada|1 Trials are done in stages Stage 1 you give it to healthy people to see if it makes them sick If it does the product is deemed not safe and testing stops At stage 2 you give different doses to sick people to see what the smallest dose is that has the proper balance of it working vs side effects Each dose might only have a handful of people getting it but you use several different doses If you cant find a dose that is effective that doesnt have side effects worse than the disease you stop here At stage 3 you give the dose selected in stage 2 to a larger group of people to see if it really works across a broader population If it only works for some people and not others unless you can figure out how to differentiate them you stopThe chance that you stop at any of the 3 stages is actually high So just because you make it to stage 2 doesnt mean youre home free Furthermore if someone else comes up with a formulation that works better than yours with fewer side effects theres a chance you can get pulled or no one uses the production favor of the better one These things are amazingly risky|1 You nailed it I currently work at one and most people from the offices about 90 are gonna work from home next week while everyone else is working 100 The worst part is that theyve barely done anything about the virus All ive got was a piece of paper with some info about it and a few tips on how to avoid it|0 I mean not really You only need to look at China Italy S Korea Hong Kong Iran etc and decide which path we want to takeFauci is a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force and he explains things incredibly well httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvxYHFv5rzaKMhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvxYHFv5rzaKM|1 youve got to respect the grift|1 I dont want thatI want a vaccine|0 If South Korea with their universal healthcare can do it US should look at them as an example and follow suit American healthcare system is a damn shame|0 Lets hope that stupid lick an ice cream put it back in the freezer prank doesnt come back|0 Why do so many people on here think theyre smarter than the WHO Some serious backseat driving by a bunch of clueless neckbeards|1 Hes going to drop out and not run as independent Like 2016 He made everyone believe he was going to win when he knows how they stole it in 2016|1 This is a really good point Especially respiratory conditions which seem to last for absolute ages sometimes I fucking swear I was congested and coughing up plegm for 3 months last winter with some respiratory virus 1 week of feeling like garbage and then 3 months of feeling generally fine with intermittent coughing fits that would knock me on my ass And Im a mid 20s otherwise healthy middle class adult in the first world with free healthcare I would imagine the same illness might have been incredibly dangerous for immunocompromised populations|1 Wow so glad everyone cares about the ultra weathly getting taken care off instead of caring that nobody can get tested Good job|1 As of 2272020 the number of sample tested was up to 362560 positive2 more people from the cruise ship tested positive on the 228 so the total is now 62In terms of identifying cases CDC has been able to test 3625 specimens as of this morning At least 40 public health laboratories should now be able to test using modified existing CDC test kits In addition a newly manufactured CDC test can be sent to 93 public health labs as soon as Monday and there is a privately manufactured test based on the new CDC test that can be sent to those same labs as soon as tomorrow pending FDA clearancehttpswwwhhsgovaboutagenciesasltestimony202002oraltestimonybeforehousewaysandmeanscommitteeonthepresidentsfy2021budgethtml|1 My uncle is like this too Like far be it from me to tell a man what his political beliefs should be but Hes a first generation MexicanAmerican Did he miss the part where Trump villainized Mexicans in front of millions His parents were born in Mexico He realizes that in the world Trump wants to see his parents would have been turned away at the border right|1 Youre not worthy of Odins almighty Manhood|0 Medical science is interesting Im way too uneducated for this stuff but thank heavens theres people out there who are trying to figure this out|1 Thanks I can now access the NEJM homepage but everytime I try to access the article itself it loads as webpage not available or cookies not able to be set when no cookie restrictions Really interested to read all these papers at NEJM but have given up will stick to The Lancet which is at least accessible|1 Are we gonna start calling Mexico racist for wanting a border or does that only apply when Americans do it|0 I dont feel like that is enough to be someones only job Just feels like a small amount|0 See if you can postpone|0 Are you out of your fucking mind manYou dont think the fucking National Geographic is credible You think the fucking NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC is fear mongeringAnd then you call me the idiot |0 Youre surprised the US isnt trying a new corona virus therapy Not surprising to me trump said we will have zero to 1 cases soon and that was 2 weeks ago So any moment this will blow over we wouldnt want to waste time on innovative treatments when we could focus on our NCAA brackets instead|1 Like Nick in The Stand Its not great to be locked up with some rural cops when a virus in on the rampage|0 Florida is on the path to become the worst hit However all the spring breakers are going to go back to their home states and spread that shit around|0 Thank you I will get on this|1 Youre right to question the quality but lets not talk about Vietnam like its China They have a different climate where the virus isnt thriving like India is still relatively low Hygiene is a different matter but they look to be much more responsible than US leaders praying about it and contaminating kits and refusing to test at all Good luck to you|1 People are laughing because theyre nervous They take it seriously|1 Yep thats one to pay attention to as well as httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronaviruscasescasesgrowthfactor|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I have more than a feeling that this same thing is going on in Norcal but we just have no damn news or fewer tests being completed crickets|0 Too bad China should have thought about that before they did things like influence the WHO into not declaring a worldwide medical emergency Or by not being fully forthcoming we might not ever really know to what extent It has nothing to do with race|0 Mxico how about a Guns n Roses concert to cheer people up Im not kidding 41k attended|1 httpswwwnaturecomarticless4142102001480httpswwwnaturecomarticless4142102001480Their measures to reduce infection rates worked Unfortunately for all the doomsayers on this sub locking people into their apartments banning travel the measures China took did start reducing the case numbers Yes it was drastic but drastic measures need to be taken which is why I find hilarity that people object to how China dealt with it yet they are reducing their cases Chinaflu subreddit is a cesspool of contradictory opinionsYou need to stop basing your facts off of Reddit information and start doing a bit of research outside of the media fed info and absolute nihilists that occupy Redditx200BEdit Downvoting a fully cited critically appraised piece because it doesnt fit in with Reddits doomsday narrative Shocker|0 They need time to move their money around so it can be protected Market needs to make it till Nov to help the reelection of King Cheetoh I of house MaraLago|1 Theyre not being civil at all They arent reading the study review at all They dont care about facts or keeping people safe|1 Good luck keeping rich people with their special privileges in their homes too|1 Grasping at every straws they can to make Trump look bad You read those headlines and think its a satirical website making jokes but nope global pandemic possible NOT ENOUGH WOMEN ON THE EXPERT PANEL is their focus Its pathetic really And then theyll cry when Trump calls them fake news Go figure|0 Why the downvotes Seriously the risk is almost zero for kids under 9 according to the WHO team in China|0 I dont doubt US and China have the ability to address and control the situation We China learned from the hardest way and now from what I learned we have ability to test 11000 samples a day and produce enough masks US can do the same or even better even government can pay full attention God bless everyone|1 Either way you dont joke about something like that Even if he hadnt been infected that was a dick move to joke about the virus and he honestly will receive a lot of negative feedback concerning that choice alone|0 Why wasnt there a clear message deliveredWhy isnt testing massively ramping upHe wasnt reassuring He massively downplayed it compared to the flu He praised himself saying stopping flights from China a while ago was a fantastic decision which has basically saved the country Thats why the US only has 15 cases Nothing to do with low testing There was absolutely no clarity given on efforts currently being done and what the plan could be moving forward He seemed fairly indifferent on whether they got 1B 2B 5B in funding to combat it didnt say what the funding would be used for The list goes on He is uninformed and massively downplaying it and hoping it goes away by itself Thats not a leader|1 Ive been following it and ill say Its not serious Wanna reconvene in a years time and see who was right|0 If the gas pump handle is a viral nightmare then you wouldnt want to fill up every few days like the person I replied to is doing|1 I knew a girl in HR that would go to the drug store at lunch and chug aftershave and cologne to get drunk it was so fucked up|0 Thats weird Ive never seen a franchise owner working in the restaurant I hadnt heard that before I know the franchise owner of the McDonalds I used to work at said he made about 1 of the stores revenue and he didnt work in them He made 70100k per store and owned 810 And that was after costs including wages paid He tried to downplay it by saying he made a penny for every 1 spent in his stores but I knew the stores sales numbers as a manager and because theyd have competitions to see which store sold the most in a day week or month Sure 1 isnt a big profit margin but when at least 2 of his stores were million dollar sales stores it aint chump changeOf course there are plenty of slow sales locations as well Though they also employ less people|1 If you cant grasp the basic concept I was talking about no paper is going to help you|1 good luck locking down Los Angeles|1 The death rate is likely significantly lower the world has no idea how many people actually have this Testing is too limited|0 Not just the old People with weak or compromised immune system as well|1 Its hard not to lose your mind when this ignorance seems more intentional than anything Completely incompetent govt hamstringing our healthcare workers and downplaying this Downplaying it right until the bomb goes off which will happen with exponential growth esp since US is taking no measures to contain it then will talk about how they had no idea and didnt see it coming|0 lacklustreWow Where do you live Do your friendsfamily mostly share this opinion on the canadian response|1 Gray as 15 the hard salary 85 the monthly bonus that you wont get if you fail to show up at work Its not that extreme usually but you get the picture|0 Guaranteed I live in a hurricane state and this happens every hurricane season Mass hysteria bulk buying once the threat is gone lots of returns|0 Sad but true|1 Yeah I have a very high tolerance from the dabs Also been a daily user of weed and then concentrates for 20 years Im tapering off using the edibles just to avoid becoming irritable anxious and sweaty and having freaky dreams Its not a big deal weed withdrawal for a heavy user but edibles make it fun and easier to eventually stop for a while|1 If you look at the current data of China it is again growingThe fatality rate usually follows increase decrease increase In the beginning hospitals are not prepared and are saturated so the rate is high As the tested number grows the total number of patients grows and soon the ones with weak symptom are recovered the rate decreasesIn the late phase many ICU patients pass away the rate increases again China is at this phase|0 YeaIm a full time single dad of a 13 year old I worry alot about my job how Ill take care of him I wonder if Ive got enough supplies to hold us over or keep us safe if things went really bad Ive got no friends or family nearby so if I go down hes really got no one As of nowIm employed and theres food in the house We just play video games and try to keep each other company|0 Wanna expand a little|1 CDC Pence Trump Twitterreliability 1010 would go to work sick again|0 Looks like every case started with fever and cough then around 11 days later they were admitted to the ICU|1 Social distancing or whatever term you prefer is the only tool in humanitys response kit right now for controlling the spread of this virusCall it what you will but those who refuse to maintain physical distance within our society are putting other peoples lives at risk They should be ashamed and calling them out on it is actually the more responsible thing to do No different than drunk driving You may not care about putting your own life is at risk but youre an asshole if youre putting other peoples lives at risk|0 There will be time later to play the blame game Things are just snowballing No matter where it came from its here and we have to deal with it Everyone everywherewe need to stay informed and remember were all in this together|0 Why are people being so stubborn|0 Global Health Security Index is a good international comparison Canada scores fifth and United States scores first But interesting is no one is truly prepared but some are more prepared than othersI have reading through the BC CDC laboratory protocol for this and it was up around the week after Wuhan got locked down so mid January is correct I know for a fact that there is a BC CDC Vancouver laboratory that is the place it ask any samples to be sentwith proper dangerous goods protocol I just double checked the BC CDC website interim laboratory protocol was issued January 25 it obviously takes time o get it up and runningI think Canadas approach of more frontline laboratory testing was earlier with the United States making people courier the sample to Atlanta firstCanada seems to prefer to rely in active surveillance over travel restrictions and worthy of mention is Canada had well established flu monitoring and other disease monitoring system for Canada herself If anything approaches an outbreak occurs it is going to trip alarms The giant dumpster fire in China though it might melt even steel but I am skeptical that either Canada or United States can have a sustained cluster with tripping something The problem is monitoring does not stop the spread alone if the fire is hot enough but I leave the tinfoil off on Canada somehow lacks capacity to detect with some delaysure|1 Their map still shows Alabama with zero cases and we have 22 confirmed since Friday Still shows Idaho at zero also and they have 5If you judge the situation by the CDC info its not bad at allAnd what idiot thought that using indistinguishable shades of brown to indicate the number of cases was a good idea Probably the same airheads that decided we didnt need to know anything over the weekend|1 no one knows what his schedule is anyway|0 Im afraid youre going to have to give me some sources for what youre suggesting I see a very suspicious article on the suicide of a former president but youre suggesting hes been thrown off If youre going to go as far as allegations id rather look at your sources than go off hunting on these topics|0 Its looking possible with this one to be infected with it more than once This is a weird one|0 I was in the middle of starting a knitting business through Universal Credit Meeting is on 17th to discuss funding but likely to be cancelledSo Ill be carrying on doing some knitting designs but Ill be putting them online for free If anyone wants to make a blanket let me know Thatll be my free time done Ive got a toddler too so games and tea parties a plenty during his awake time Love the idea of learning dances will be trying that out|1 The biggest joke of all is trump per usual|1 I confess to being one of those its just the flu people until today hearing all this stuff Im a fucking idiot|0 Where are you getting that number|1 Its a dedicated EI covid line with an hour wait time itll work it just will take time|1 Same Half of my family members are currently in California I am relieved but also scared at the same time |0 How is he eligible for testing with no symptoms|0 I agree Lol|1 SAME The only thing I have come up with after what feels like a decades of this shit even though its only been a few years is this1 Some people cant function hoping for or idealizing an egalitarian just and fair society where together we can all benefit from each other This rejection of egalitarianism and true democracy in and of itself isnt that awful as a personality trait people are complicated varied creatures whatever What breeds what we are talking about is the circumstances in which this personality trait gets magnified into an unshakable belief system 2 These people see human nature as a pyramid of survival of the fittest mechanics that always has someone rightly on the bottom and someone rightly at the top This point of view is also not that terrible as a personality trait when its not the central driving force in your life You can argue it breeds innovation competitiveness ingenuity etc etc This viewpoint is also basically what capitalism is in many ways profit success right to be at the top levels of society 3 If these people that think and feel this pyramidal way are secluded enough suburbs smaller towns rural areas smaller cities media bubbles retirement bubbles social media bubbles etc they begin to feel they are the top of their own pyramid and get satisfaction on looking down from that pyramid Those people did it ILLEGALLY They didnt WORK hard enough Welfare people make my medical bills more expensive Its sad that babies are in jails and that some children have died but their parents broke the law A statement my mother made despite one side of my mothers family coming here illegallyBasically they end up on an endless feedback loop of their own superiority complex of feeling on top successful and better than There are moments that this breaks but it is rare It only truly ends when they are forced to become one with the group they look down upon and even then they may be so far along they deny it Its really no surprise this mindset breeds well in our country we have been creating this for generations Sincerely thank you for not being a part of it and sending you strength and health in this crazy time Also sorry you came to my endless Ted talk|1 I knew this 11520 why werent more actions taken like other countries|1 Churn and burn bitches TIME TO DIE|0 And the Pentagon has very reasonable calculable threat assessments for national security and the citizen population even for non military mattersWhen they say this will go on for 2 months we should listen to them because they know what theyre talking about|0 I stand corrected We have a totally different word for the disease in Dutch griep so I got a bit lost in translation there|0 West Virginia always behind on everything Sorry couldnt help myself|0 Cath Lab nurse here Really not excited for all of the heart failure coming our way in the coming weeks|0 Are they separated from one another IsolatedIf not and one gets sick Does the 14 day quarantine restart from the point where the infected is removedIf isolated all good if not and the clock restarts these people could be there for months on end trapped If the clock doesnt restart the infected people are surely being released in which case the quarantine is a sham|0 possible they do have long term pet projects to gain confidence and gradually subvert from within|1 Oh man This is awful but So classic Kids|0 This wont work This will keep those over 65 safe for the next few weeks but it wont work Those going out that are sick will still spread and keep resetting the clock|0 What sort of damage do you see|0 Having a South Korean classmate she posted something that claims the Korean government is trying its best to be more transparent|1 ah yes the regular people as opposed to you the enlightened x200Bkindly do fuck off|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I would love to do this but most of the drivers who deliver complain that they cant find my apartment andor dont want to get out of the car LOL Its the first apartment inside the gate Wonder if that will change with COVID|1 They would come back because humans displaced animals long ago so animals started using buildings since trees were cut down Pandemics will become the new norm over the next 30 years|0 There are a lot things your guys can do The first step is to build temporary hospitals with stadiums for mile symptoms DO NOT let them stay at home Protect the uninfected people is crucial I believe Chinese experts will provide a lot of useful experience|1 Thanks|1 like how it worked out at WacoI get the sentiment but the reality will be very different The Government have a trained army and unlimited money for weapons and ammunition While the US Public is naturally paranoid is afraid of the neighbours guns has a stockpile of XX weapons which will last a few days at best against the Governments unlimited supply but the stupidest bit of it all is that they dont even need to shoot you or deal with your gunfire they just torch your housebut remind me again in a real life scenario how will US citizens being armed do anything other than make everyone shoot each other when the opiates they are all addicted to run out and they are freaking out about everyone else who has gunsMurican concept of stayin safe is hilarious it will be a wipe out THe last place I would want to be in a Coronavirus world war Z type outbreak would be on American soil with all the guns they have there lol Even China seems safer|0 I totally agree with this However just this morning I heard Mayor Deblasio say he cant test the way he wants because of federal red tape Were I in his shoes Id order the tests and procedures my experts recommended and have the city deal with the legal ramifications later|1 Using some math models others have created I estimate the death toll in Seattle will be 20004000 by April 1st unless China style quarantine is put in place soon|0 You arent rich either keep crying or become rich reality remains the same|0 Many people at work described a flu like disease since mid January I had a very different flu too Missed for the first time in 5yrs But twitter trvrb s model doesnt predict such a wide spread cluster for coronavirusBut really it was a very weird type of flue or cold that i ve never had|0 Pacific and Asian population are more susceptible to getting rheumatic feverrheumatic heart disease from strep throats while it is very rare in people of European descent Thats well established and its just one example That different groups of humans have different genes that make them more or less susceptible to different diseases is just true and verified by science When people jump right to racism They are doing everyone a disservice|0 Hey I dont know if your gf and mom can take some time off work but I think thats the best option If you take the precautionary steps you increase your chances For now try to occupy your time with some things to do like watching a funny shoe reading any other indoor hobby Praying helps me as well Try to reach some sort of agreement with your gf and avoid ordering out food too much Take care and stay safe buddy God be with you and your loved ones amen|1 Ive been waiting for his opinion One I respect|1 C You are against vaccination in which case please go out and lick those who fall under A|1 Curious how fast Radio Free Asia and Tom Cotton on seeding the Wuhan biolab coronavirus leak conspiracy theory from the start when there are no facts However there are facts of problems with Fort Detrick biolab Tom Cotton should concentrate more efforts on his own country for biosafety standards20190716 SPRINGFIELD Va WJLA The symptoms usually start with a cough In less than 2 weeks a mystery virus at Springfields Greenspring Retirement Community has gotten 55 residents sick Twenty have been hospitalized some with pneumonia and two people have died httpswjlacomnewslocalmysteryvirusgreenspringretirementcdcvahttpswjlacomnewslocalmysteryvirusgreenspringretirementcdcva20190802 All research at a Fort Detrick Maryland laboratory that handles highlevel diseasecausing material is on hold indefinitely after the CDC found the organization failed to meet biosafety standards The CDC sent a cease and desist order in July The suspension was due to multiple causes failure to follow local procedures wastewater decontamination system also failed to meet standards httpswwwfredericknewspostcomnewshealthfortdetricklabshutdownafterfailedsafetyinspectionallarticle767f345959c2510f9067bb215db4396dhtmlhttpswwwfredericknewspostcomnewshealthfortdetricklabshutdownafterfailedsafetyinspectionallarticle767f345959c2510f9067bb215db4396dhtml20190805 Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at Army Lab Over Safety Concerns Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the militarys leading biodefense center httpswwwnytimescom20190805healthgermsfortdetrickbiohazardhtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20190805healthgermsfortdetrickbiohazardhtml20090209 Army Suspends Germ Research at Maryland Lab Army officials have suspended most research involving dangerous germs at the biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick Md which the FBI has linked to the anthrax attacks of 2001 after discovering that some pathogens stored there were not listed in a laboratory database The suspension which began Friday and could last three months is intended to allow a complete inventory of hazardous bacteria viruses and toxins stored in refrigerators freezers and cabinets in the facility the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious DiseasesThe inventory was ordered by the institutes commander Col John P Skvorak after officials found that the database of specimens was incomplete In a memorandum to employees last week Colonel Skvorak said there was a high probability that some germs and toxins in storage were not in the database Rules for keeping track of pathogens were tightened after the 2001 anthrax letters which killed five people httpswwwnytimescom20090210washington10germshtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20090210washington10germshtmlThe first cases of the 2009 swine H1N1 flu started to appear the following month March20110228 Trouble in the air at Fort Detrick Frederick residents have had plenty of reminders lately why they should be concerned about the biodefense facilities in their midst an ongoing cancer cluster investigation related to past groundwater contamination an Agent Orange protest and headlines about the 2001 anthrax attacks which the FBI still insists were perpetrated by a researcher at Fort Detricks US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases USAMRIID Little wonder then if Frederick residents are troubled about the latest risky biodefense facility at Fort Detrick a 460000squarefoot Medical Countermeasures and Test Facility which it appears will aerosolize large numbers of monkeys with bioweapons agents httpswwwbaltimoresuncomopinionbsxpm20110228bseddetrick20110228storyhtmlhttpswwwbaltimoresuncomopinionbsxpm20110228bseddetrick20110228storyhtmlBruce Edwards Ivins was an American microbiologist vaccinologist senior biodefense researcher at the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases USAMRIID Fort Detrick Maryland and the suspected perpetrator of the 2001 anthrax attacks On July 29 2008 he died of an overdose of acetaminophen Tylenol in an apparent suicide after learning that criminal charges were likely to be filed against him by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for an alleged criminal connection to the 2001 anthrax attacks No formal charges were ever filed against him for the crime and no direct evidence of his involvement has been uncovered|0 My brother a firstresponder in WA reports that his team and the hospitals hes been to recently are not following adequate containment safety protocols At this point I wonder how we can determine what containment and safety protocols are indeed adequate|1 Swine Flu H1N1 lasted 20 monthsCOVID19 SARSCoV2 is only a few months old Numbers are just getting started|0 Measles Outbreaks occur in the US Thats ridiculous There is always a need to plan|0 Remember when KFC ran out of chickenNow imagine if shops ran out of potentially life saving products that the government health ministers were advising people to go out and buy to protect themselves and loved ones|1 Contagious|0 Im from Israel a country which does a lot of testing You wouldnt have been tested here either Unless there is evidence of widespread community transmission its not costeffective to do a test for everyone with flu symptoms because flu and other such diseases are still more common than coronavirus When I say cost effective I mean that they need to ration their testing for when they really need it Even if they have enough kits their throughput is going to be limited due to hardware and personnel issuesAlso your described symptoms dont match typical coronavirus Sore throat presents only in 5 of the cases same for runny nose Selfisolate anyway just in caseSourcehttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirussymptomstypicalhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirussymptomstypical|0 Thats terrible Amazon is the cloudiest of all cloud companies and have mandated WFH for all 50k of their Seattle employees So far my Netflix is still working so I assume the engineers are doing fine at home|0 Thank you Keep seeing this do many times even though no math backs up a mortality rate of 23 only wrong mathEDIT just expressing my opinion people so many people keep saying that this is and I quote from hearing it a dozen times today Im not worried about the coronavirus because it has a lower death rate than the flu Saying outright thats its 23 without additional information makes people think that its nothing to worry about and laugh at those who are paying attention to the virus|0 We are only three meals away from a revolution The powers that be know thisThats actually a really elegant statement Im sad its buried this far down|1 The last article about the origins of the virus looks like it was on research gate as a preprint but I cant find the article on research gate has it been removed do you know how did you find it|1 Awesome thank you|1 Soooo my wife and I should cancel our trip to Spain in April|0 Government is absentee Crucial information behind paywalls reddit Google and all other hubs complicit in the withholdingsmudging of infoThey all need to go If we actually survive this they all need to go|0 The trade war has been going on for 2 years or so at this point and production has been diversifying sinceThis will hammer it home NBA fans got a wake up call when China decided to have an issue with something an American citizen said on Twitter which is banned in ChinaSouth Park got banned in ChinaHong Kong protests and how the Chinese army invaded wearing police uniforms with no ID|0 I just noticed today how is India so low with such a dense population maybe they are just not being tested enough|0 They should be executed Its not just irresponsible its a crime|0 I go to OCAD and for my program jewelry moving online would simply be cancelling classes since we have to use the studio anyways I suspect theyre making a plan for it but theres really no good answer as delaying graduation wouldnt be good|1 Masks wont protect someone from getting it Only helps prevent you from spreading itEdit Im aware it helps But by wearing a mask that doesnt filter particles you are bound to inhale said particles Doesnt matter if 50 virus particles land on your mask If you sit there and breathe through it youll eventually inhale all particles resting on your filterless mask You def should still wear masks just dont blindly think youre now safe and can start handling infected people|1 Id really like to see the one about hand sanitiser murders too your comments too highly upvoted to let it slide|1 Just say you have be tested positive for coronavirus and thats your gonna still travel|1 I teach hot yoga and Im curious about this It would be great in theory but Im not sure about everyone crammed together|1 When authorities fail its up to individuals to look out for themselves dont wait for the WHO to warn you they dont care about you or me Take what time you have and get ready dont even bother informing others just do what you think is necessary Plenty of resources online if you can spare the time|0 Fascinating I have my own set of random info for various reasons but not in that field Thank for the replies Off to read your link now|1 Nah Id say the problem is people with their heads up their arse who dont really know what theyre talking about If you see those in need as scroungers the problem isnt with them it is with you|0 Only some people The Daily Mail is full of stories about empty streets and transport hubsWe just need to social distance more than we were doing the increased percentage of people working from home is making a difference|1 Soap water and 20 seconds of washing is also effective It is just less convenient You got this|1 Apparently the US military has cut a deal to make sure remdesivir is available to troops and their familieshttpswwwvoanewscomsciencehealthcoronavirusoutbreakpentagonstrikesdealbiotechfirmmakecoronavirusdrughttpswwwvoanewscomsciencehealthcoronavirusoutbreakpentagonstrikesdealbiotechfirmmakecoronavirusdrugIs it common for this to be done with an experimental drug thats still officially unproven Does it indicate anything about the Pentagons degree of confidence in remdesivir|1 Oh sorry thats awesome I didnt know that|1 Well duh we are able to get over the virus Just like any other virus|1 Should also be noted that China is well known for its horrific air quality which can directly lead to increased chances and lethality for pneumonia|0 Send em to Murica next please|1 That scared me worse than the stupidity|0 Not screening from Italy but still doing it to China is just actually racist Nothing else Theres no good reason one could giveNot only that its scientifically dumb|0 As opposed to Theres no vaccine right now its spreading but its not the plague It isnt a death sentence reddit is full of you worst case scenario fetishists|0 Poland as well for the next two weeks|1 Straight delivery from like a Dominos for example would be fine youd have a home base to go back to and washup between runs Services like Uber Eats literally sit in their car and bring stuff from the restaurant into their car right to the customer and he gets back in his car and does it again Having hand sanitizer can only get so far in conditions like that|1 A logistic curve is the appropriate model when reviewing an epidemic in hindsight but its difficult to apply in the moment since you dont know where the inflection point will fall It depends heavily on the R0 value which will shift based on the responses taken to the disease itself and thus wont be obvious until after youve passed it and seen the slope of the curve start to decrease In the initial stages an exponential function will model the behavior well enough to be useful|1 I agree I thought we started off strong but its been all down hill from there|1 Its another just a flu troll account|0 Ditto I have one more thing a delivery of more hand sanitizer that is scheduled to come Wednesday I will still keep adding a can of Lysol and a bottle of bleach cleaner and maybe alcoholperoxide to every trip or order Walmart until Im satisfied its enough though I probably have enough but like you saidanxiety|1 Reverse children of men interesting idea|1 The growth rate in the western world has been more like 10x per week not month |1 Here Ill give you the downvote that you seem to be seeking |0 this is 100 on Disney If they close down there isnt anybody thereFixed your problem in one easy fucking step|1 We are a pretty openly racist country so many little things that are just a joke Coronavirus is just the latest excuse to be open about it We are getting better though especially in metro and suburban areas where diversity is on the rise|1 They are great at isolating too Congrats|1 This shit is getting outta hand These news channels and political figures are lying the virus is nowhere near as bad as they say|0 Agreed The key point I learned five years ago in talking with a Canadian doctor is in a system of socialized medicine the government is liable for the cost and therefore has a vested interest in banning chemicals which it knows will increase costs ie can cause cancer Despite the fact USG is on the hook for Medicare 65 and Medicaid welfare we dont have that attitude in the US at all which is why chemicals known to EuropeCanada to be bad for health are not illegal here|1 You are fake news Fuck you|0 And it did shit lol|0 I dont anyone is ever ready for a global pandemic|1 They have clearly stated both on multiple occasions In fact the lack of supply has pretty much been the predominant reason they have asked people to stop buying them from the very beginning Chances are that you heard it how you wanted to hear it because that information has always been out there Either youre stupid or youre a liar|0 Fuck Beff Jezos|0 This is such a ridiculously invalid argument Im not acknowledging it Itll be sad if that one imaginary person under those exact circumstances you made up dies because Kohls closed Talk about mental gymnastics Actually I worked with addicts and in mental health for about 8 years Maybe you can do that one day when you finish high school|0 If I didnt have to worry about bills rent food etc Id be very okay with that and I have two weeks worth of food currently My job is finally talking about sending us to WFH which surprised me but I would be fine with that I like having a social life but Im an introvert so isolation is okay as long as I can video chat with people|1 Have you been to costco lately Or any other grocery super retailer I feel for those guys|1 There was an AMA last week from a research scientist whose group was tracking the spread of the illness They said that this is part of the problem of tracking it cause of death is very literal if you died from heart failure due to a drug interaction it is listed as heart failure If you die from pneumonia that was a result of the virus it is listed as pneumoniaThat said it is not anything sinister its just how they do things thereThe linkhttpswwwredditcomrIAmAcommentsew6jfhiamaresearchprofessorwhodetectsisolates|0 Some of the best weapons we have maim dont kill A non deadly virus that incapacitate 20 of a population that spread fast would make a good bio weapon The same logic of a landmine it takes 4 healthy soldiers to carry one wounded out of th field|1 The amount youre paying in taxes is more but then in the United States taxes might be less but we also have to pay for our own health insurance and even with that if you get sick the deductibles can be in the thousands of dollarsIt would be interesting to compare the salaries versus benefits for similar jobs in both countries For example someone working in retail which in the United States you cant really support yourself with and many times you dont get enough hours to actually get health coverage|1 Fortunately for those who got it and for vaccine developers the H1N1 swine flu was not much different from a typical seasonal flu They just made a new flu shot as they do every year|0 Low numbers Mason Only give us low beautiful numbers|1 Youre like an Avenger|1 Well its not all of my coworkers Just about 4 or 5 that Im very friendly with and get along well with They all have the same reaction though|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Money They probably told him the amount first then explained the risks but he stopped listening after hearing the amount and his eyes turning into |0 Beautiful|1 That impotent beta rage tho lolololol|0 Latest Ive come across was quoting Xu Nanping vice minister of science and technology at a press conference in Beijing on 21 FebChloroquine Phosphate which has been used for more than 70 years has been tested in 135 cases in Beijing and southern Chinas Guangdong Province Among them 130 patients have light and common symptoms and five are severe patientsNone of the patients with light and common symptoms have developed severe symptoms Four severe patients have been discharged from hospital and one has seen severe symptoms mitigated to normal Xu said httpwwwchinaorgcnchina20200222content75732846htmWhich sounds quite promising Still awaiting more info|0 Do you know of any strains which ionic silver is ineffective against|0 Better late than never|1 My kid make over 100k a year in the service industry HVAC to be specific Not all service industry jobs are crap Plumbing electrical HVAC etc pay really well The Trades are service industry jobs Not everyone works retail Most dont|0 It would be most useful if Ted Cruz quarantines himself forever|1 Pneumonia deaths rise drastically after 50 and by age 60 they are dozens of times higher than a young personshttpswwwresearchgatenetprofileAndrewNoymerpublication236959651figurefig5AS3412827119820941458379547266HistogramsofpneumoniaandinfluenzaICD10J10J18deathsbyage2010vsQ640jpgIt peaks obviously after 60 but 60 is definitely old enough to die from pneumonia|0 The citys core population numbers directly reflects how many people are nearby So no it is not misleading because thats the numbers I took from all these cities the area around is even more populated in Milan and LA which further proves my point that population and dense cities will have a much harder time with this Especially when its a 3rd world country with sky high population and density|0 Right up until the moment it all comes crashing down I said over a week ago that it looked like the US federal level response was more closely following Irans path then any other countries All of our powerful state city municipality and towns are all capable of following a much better path regardless Most of them are behaving more like the slightly proactive European countries|1 Oh The Guardiancan always rely on it for fake news It almost even admits its fake news right in the story presumably hoping no one would read that farThe US president has been accused by German political leaders of trying to buy exclusive US access to vaccines being prepared by a German firm CureVac laboratory The German firm and the US have denied the move but the episode first reported in the German press at the weekend has symbolised fears that Trump does not have an instinct to cooperate with other world leaders to fight the virusWell I guess as long as it is symbolizing fears whatever that means its fit to print|0 It really should be the Its Always Sunny theme haha|1 If you caught it its an OSHA recordable incident You can immediately report them for failure on providing appropriate PPEhttpswwwoshagovSLTCcovid19standardshtmlTldr httpswwwbusinessinsurancecomarticle20200311NEWS06912333495OSHAremindsemployersCOVID19isarecordableillnesscoronavirus|0 Dark thought but I wonder if it helps to be almost upside down|1 i expected higher than US but holy shit thats bad|0 My girlfriend 25 and I 28 have gone through and recovered from the virus just finished isolation today If youre young and generally healthy its really not all that bad at all|1 Shit if all the commoners die then the celebrities will become the commoners|0 Im hoping we only have one Toronto looks to be a little behind Vancouver and I hope that they are paying attention and will be preemptive with closures and things|1 Seriously It always annoyed me but now it annoys me even more when people bring their bratty kids to stores so the kids can coughsneeze all over everybody Like ok 3 years old I understand but your 7 year old hell spawn needs to have learned by now that isnt cool In the least I should see you as parent apologizing and asking kid to cover hisher face|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Voting online is the best thing ever Its instant No paper trash No delay|0 Currently 100 cases recovered China is making people test negative wait a couple days then test negative again before declaring that person recovered Given that the testing system in China is overburdened Id say theyre not going too quickly on confirming recovered people|0 Same here in Canada when that Iranian flight was shot down and WW3 was trending on twitter a large percentage of the people who died were Canadian so it was all over the news here for a little whileThat seems like a lifetime ago now|0 Im 65 have Aspergers and stage 4 cancer Now this Yall need to toughen up|0 Im sure youve probably read this by now but dont be worried There is food you just might need to go to a local store Plus there is plenty of food at the major stores they just cant get it out fast enough|1 You can thank me by spreading the word |1 Not all of those who are more skeptical want the world to end or people to die Ive studied this sorta thing and there are some real concerns with this virusIts still early and while we shouldnt panic and act as if its an apocalypse we also shouldnt brush this off as a common cold thats fully under control We need to be prepared for the worst while hoping for the best|1 Your post is literally a carbon copy of my own thinking and actions Those since you can get reinfected with this disease my whole plan of getting it first really isnt going to work outI stopped watching the news in 2013 Its been great|1 I already found someone but I have a few more spare masks Ill send you some for your kids Ill DM you|0 Youre the only one here thinking he could have possibly meant they were anti Asian Lmfao Youre crazy homie|0 The video in this tweet literally has Cuomo saying that he talked to the president this morning and the president is ready willing and able to help|1 There is natural genetic diversity in viruses and mutations happen Coronavirus have proofreading to correct errors unlike HIV for example Also they do not have segmented genomes like influenza so are absolutely not comparable there With Influenza if a human is coinfected with different strains which can come from birds or pigs as well as other humans the segments can combine together in new ways This will not be the case for COVID19|1 Over my dead body Ill never get to hug Kevin Sorbo|0 Prison reform|0 The wealthy never let a good disaster go to waste|1 May be true for your country probably also for mine|1 maybe they shouldnt be selling them at CVS Im just buying it Hate on the shortage by yourself|0 10 cents is a number Ive seen from some food banks as their estimate for what it costs to put together a meal for someone Yes I think feeding 10000 people who are food insecure is better than giving a random person 1000|1 How do I properly sanitize my phone It seems like sanitizing wipes would be bad for it|0 I would have liked it to end that way and also with a civil war for the entertainment value but alas|0 Imagine all the people who have been dismissed for critical thinking and have been called conspiracy theorists regarding other topics|0 Makes me wonder whether corona will cure my introversion Seems it makes people really social and adventurous|1 Ohio did this yesterday praise DeWine Every once in a while theres a decent egg out there|1 The situation is chaotic and there is a lot of suffering I am pretty sure that he did it out of his own free will to save lives Just like a lot of doctors would in the same predicament He just pushed himself too far|1 Unfortunately on twitter more people are just saying wow the NBA shut down over a glorified flu Soft I think them contracting the disease is the only way to change their views honestly|1 This is going to be a currency index and debt crisis on top of an employment and a health crisis|0 I think their government does not want to educate them of the seriousness of them consuming such delicacies I think this is their way of crowd control Tbh|0 Air pollution might cause 2x increase in ACE2 cells in mice Since SARScov2 uses ACE2 cells to infiltrate hosts OP is suggesting air pollution in China is causing a heightened reaction to sarscov2 virus relative to the rest of the world|1 I hope people at the CDC are held accountable for this monumental fuckup when this is over Trump will be blamed and the 11000000000 per year CDC budget will be increased Id put money on that|1 LMAO delusional No one is going to say you were right everyone will say yeah I always knew it was a big deal people didnt care etc|1 Oh sure a recession seems likely Thats about it We were due anyway|0 They all had a positive coworker so they got tested for covidThishttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf99w4myoumighthaveaninsiderhereinabitboooooys is the guy but apparently he was tested for the flu and not for the virus so forget what I said about him|0 This is what really scares me A lot of countries are barrelling towards a full collapse of their medical systems|0 Town is an understatement They take up half of Sumter county a large swath of north Lake county and a sliver of Marion county The only hospital in Sumter county is in the villages Theres a couple in the villages in lake but only a handful in lake county proper Im not sure about the Marion county hospital situation Id not call it a town id call it the worse case scenario county|0 And according to some preliminary reports the more times youre exposed to COVID19 the more severe your symptoms areEDIT This is based on ONE study which itself was based on preliminary data that I halfremembered reading somewhere on this forum a few days ago This is not confirmed fact yet and could easily turn out to be completely wrong For everyone asking for a source Ill try to track down that study I saw|0 Thanks never tried that|1 Well I think were gonna lose that soon Just saw three people going for a hike together Im in FranceThe one condition of the exercise thing was that you do it alone |0 Wait until things look really terrible to quarantine and 714 days later youre in for a real shitshow|0 At this point i think the CCP themselves do not know either They keep finding dead cases in apartments|0 As it should be Cancel all flights Restrict any travel in or out of the country|0 I wish you all the best brother Stay safe please And god bless to you and your family From the UK|1 Well in Washington State where everyone has died there are only 200 testing kits total so they may be using them sparingly|0 Theyre already accused of panicking for doing nothing Imagine if they actually did something|0 Very interesting theory makes a lot of sense However I do remember reading somewhere that small children and old people were weak against the disease But after seeing this I guess thats wrong|0 Isnt it like 2 million people in a cruise ship tightly packed|0 With allies like that US who the fuck needs enemies|0 My level of necessity is probably lower than that Theres a suspected case quarantined in my building and I am exposed to crowds when taking public transportation in the supermarket etc|0 Indeed it has and i have shared the info with many people including local and state politicians Im hoping that helped with the response I saw the local and state people start instituting|1 When leaders of powerful countries actually did something to intervene other countries and help them it didnt end well|1 Yeah if you ignore the problem it leads to people dead Thats what happened in the Chinese case|0 Well it kills the swine flu virus and bird flu virus etc so Ill take my chances|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 You said that even if you hand hold people through 20 years of education they would still be morons Science does in no way support the idea that education does not have an impact on peoples ability Making education worse does have an impact To suggest otherwise is ludicrousIQ is a very specific measure EQ is also a crucial part of intelligence A superior attitude comes across sneering and contemptuous Few rounded intelligent people hold this view A lot of people the more they learn and the greater wisdom they earn find that everyone has value and the weight of the things they dont know is heavy enough to bring humility The denial of science is a problem but it wont be solved by hiding yourself away and assuming every stranger is a moronSmart people dont do a lot of drugs isolate themselves in general What you are describing is the profile of an high IQ low EQ individual If thats you dont avoid people the world needs smart people If the only voices prepared to engage people are idiots and there are a lot of loud idiots then the world suffers And yes most of the time a marathon runner does wait for his slower friends Most of the time its not a competition It doesnt mean he has to get fat himself He can still outrun them when he is training or running a race But to charge away from everyone who cant run as fast as you when just walking to a restaurant is not evidence of great running skills Its evidence of being a dick|1 Theyre using a 59 term model to fit the last 60 days|1 You arent alone We are in Indiana and have been following this closely My wife works at home so weve pulled my daughter from daycare and my son from 2nd grade to do his home at home as well By the time Spring Break is over in 4 weeks I think the landscape will be drastically changed It only took one month for reported cases in China to go from 1000 to over 80000 The federal governments response at this point is scary With minimal testing to date we have basically no surveillance and are looking at an acute epidemic that will quickly overwhelm the hospitals 2 months ago I had no idea Id be researching or considering the amount of ventilators in our country but here we are Stay safe everyone|1 They didnt ban flights fast enough if you look at the past week of cases imported ones are now higher than local transmission except for the disastrous SAFRA Jurong Cluster|0 Nasty Question A woman is being mean to me|0 Im very interested in protective measures and you seem to know what is up Can you link to more indept info on what kind of protection is neccesarry|1 Man is from Florida Youre lucky he didnt say write|1 Probably But Im glad you are not fear morgering here with what you are saying |1 Of course it was Queen City Lounge That place is a rat trap to begin with|0 My RosettaHome team is Cephalopoda Anyone can join We started up when they offered COVID19 folding|1 Did anyone else spend an embarrassing amount of time trying to figure out what the headline meant by 20 million are over 605 million Lol whoops|1 Hows your ass smell Pointing out that a company pays an objectively decent wage is not boot licking and sticking your head up your ass and ignoring facts so you can be angry about your own imagined injustice just makes you an idiot|0 Tylenol is the only thing that mildly works for my headaches I will be absolutely furious if now I cant even find that in the goddamn store|0 Goes to Amazon to verify your claimsSearches toiler paper checks prime only obviouslyUh oh not goodThere is one optionCurrently there are no sellers that can deliver this item to your locationWell shit|0 I wouldnt go Why take the risk You have a pre existing condition Each of us needs to do our part by reducing social contact The government is not helping with this|0 Great analogy|1 Amidst all this hoohahI accidentally touched my face|0 Not the older generationYep Or the poor There are hundreds of millions of people who work for cash|0 Id be curious to know also what strain primarily this study was dealing withDont drink the strain koolaid so soon theres a lot of criticism floating around about that right now Something about arbitrarily deciding that that one specific mutation denotes separate a strain and that their idea that its more infectious is total conjecture|0 Are there any real death toll numbers from China or are they just saying nothing now|0 COVID19 is not a flu Repeat This is not an influenza virus COVID19is a unique SARSlike coronavirus that shares 95 percent of its genome with a SARS virus found in bats The rest of the genome has never before been seen by mankind|1 People have explicitly told me and posted that regular flu kills thousands each year this is no different|0 Id bet the WHO top brass and the investors go to the same partiesE Not that its relevant no conspiracy here read uVeggiePaninis post below|0 No the more important takeaway is that the paper presumes no social distancing because it is a microgeographical case study of the initial Wuhan outbreak wave and only considers that Social distancing is in effect built into the composition of the United States by virtue of its size culture of individuality lack of significant communal gathering locations and its tremendous rurality Itll spread like crazy in cities likely but slow outside of them The R0 and rate of infection provided in the analysis are for the ideal conditions of Wuhan that they provided a highdensity geography of limited size These mean nothing if people dont come into contact with each other and therefore these are not applicable on a macrogeographical level in considering the US because there are factors inherent to our country that produce highlevel social distancing effects There is no way in hell that this is going to come to passEDIT Also name dropping Los Alamos repeatedly is ridiculous when you are miscontextualizing their research|0 Employers often reward those who work while sick too or at the very least punish those who dont Even if those rewards or punishments are subtle people notice and it causes more people to work while sick I see it all time time at work and I work in the food industry I know 3 coworkers who showed up to work today alone noticeably sick|0 This reminds me of the 1918 Liberty Loan Parade in Philidelphia which gave thousands the Spanish Fluhttpswwwsmithsonianmagcomhistoryphiladelphiathrewwwiparadegavethousandsonlookersflu180970372A political appointee Krusen publicly denied that influenza was a threat saying with assurance that the few military deaths were oldfashioned influenza or grip He promised a campaign against coughing spitting and sneezing well aware that two days before the scheduled parade the nations monthly draft callup had been cancelled because army camps including nearby Camp Dix in New Jersey and Camp Meade in Maryland were overwhelmed by a conflagration of virulent influenza Philadelphias parade poured gasoline on the flamesSome things never change|0 So if this actually goes forward as the WH plans and several more people end up dying as a result of skewed information or no information can they be charged with something Negligence manslaughter or worse|0 The virus is already out my friend No way in hell will you catch me dead or alive and potentially infected at a gym|0 We work for a ceiling fan company Super essential right Our factory still isnt fully back online post CNY yetFtr all of us can and do regularly work remotely for various reasons our CEO just hates it He is old school in that work can only possibly get done at the office and time in chair is the most important metric of productivitythey spent the first 3 days of this week doubling down on it not being a big deal and staying openFinally a few of our Co workers started pushing back loudly they have agreed to begrudgingly close the office starting tomorrow Prior to that they were forcing vacation burn if you needed to be home with kids etcHowever the stipulations and monitoring to make sure there is no time theft is incredible|1 They are all going to eat humble pie soon but I wish the thoughtless people were right and could win this debate and we were wrong I have locked my 82 year old days in with months of food and its phone visits only now for me and him My POS brother thinks its all fake news and wont stop seeing dad ironically never saw him much before now and is doing it to almost spite visit yes the worst people dont care about the reality and ramifications to the elderly and sickly|0 Time to get those tests available to create safe work environments with strict work to home only travel adherence Then the economy could at least move and people could get basic supplies We need tests We need fast acting leadership and out of the box thinking We need to take advantage of technologyAlso a great time to reconsider automated renewable energy|1 Feel free to dm direct message me too and Ill throw you my phone number and name|1 Most insurance companies already have clauses saying theyre not liable for acts of god war etc|0 How many of us will die Many Vote accordingly|0 Which dosis Apparently they do much more than 400mg per day I heard 1000 mg Which is not approved and can lead to severe side effectsEDIT After reading the better translation they really used their 2x 05g dosis day|0 We had those articles too in Italy but doctors and hospitals said that at the moment is not true|0 I dont know about that They did that back in October 2019 and their conclusion was that 65 million people would die and that we would need 510 years of concerted effort to improve that outcomeWhether they were giving an accurate assessment of our current situation or making a disingenuous plea for funding is hard to say but in either case I doubt that very much has changed in 5 months|0 Trump supporters All right but apart from the sanitation the medicine education wine public order irrigation roads a fresh water system and public health what have the Romans ever done for ushttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvY7tvauOJMHo|1 Linking to reddit thread since original article is in german and there is a translation httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffuetdleadinggermanvirologistsummerwilldecreaser0Tldr The german virologist is one of the leading experts His team developed first test for SARSCoV2 in January he codiscovered the original SARS and helped develop the first test for that too He says its false hope that it will just go away and that at most warm weather will reduce the R0 value by 05|1 MethodologyWe assessed transmission reduction potential provided by personal respirators surgical masks and homemade masks when worn during a variety of activities by healthy volunteers and a simulated patientPrincipal FindingsAll types of masks reduced aerosol exposure relatively stable over time unaffected by duration of wear or type of activity but with a high degree of individual variation Personal respirators were more efficient than surgical masks which were more efficient than homemade masks Regardless of mask type children were less well protected Outward protection mask wearing by a mechanical head was less effective than inward protection mask wearing by healthy volunteersConclusionsSignificanceAny type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol|1 Im planning to vote Democrat down the line the Republican party needs to be taught a lesson for flirting with Trump May I ask a stupid question as a foreigner Ive watch many debate on your presidential running since 2008 I had not found one candidate say good things about Wall Street but it seems none of those bankers got punished in all those years|0 Grain of optimism doofus|1 Oh I bet they going to love this|1 I agree and I am under my own opinion that anyone in the same house should be under quarantine and also be tested especially since my aunt is high risk being 65 with lupus and heart disease|1 I wonder how many people in the plane got infected|0 No because many are asymptomatic or they believe no one cares about their cold or flu which is what they may think they have|0 Did you watch the short clip or the whole 15 hour one We need everyone to look at people like dr Campbell and Rogan to be the voice of whats going on|1 Me too I have a similar situation if it makes you feel better My wife finally got the message after calling me crazy for all of Jan and February We were done asked her to stop putting our family in jeopardy and she left to continue to work She left only to return to the kids and I with a fresh new outlook as it was now mainstream 15 years of marriage 2 kids and you do get to see your spouses true colors when the chips are down and the SHTF its in the best interest of the family to be together I feel for your situation as he should be staying elsewhere if work is more important than the family Last week was the time to get serious its in every small town by now Good luck|1 They have a strategy to time the closures and manage the spreadThey cant release that because game theory says anyone who knows in advance the opponents move can easily counterExcept the internet has more data than government and herd clicks are more useful than herd immunityWe are in a weird data war with our own governments and its being fought for our own good Also 006 of you will die|0 Given that only severe cases are being tested correct me if Im wrong that mild cases outnumber severe cases 6 to 1 that theres an average 10 day or so incubation period and that doubling is happening every 5 ish daysIts possible|0 Im really worried about this because my husband works in a pharmacy Im terrified he is going to be exposed like this and Im going to be left to raise this child we finally conceived alone|0 well duh |1 What a great quote Im American and Im proud of the resources and capabilities at our nations disposal No so much of how and when we choose to use them|1 Damn and I really wanted a Tesla not anymore|0 damn as bad as China is demoting it to Developing country is pretty harsh Although the majority of Chinese are still extremely poor and are exploited to prop up four tier 1 cities so maybe you are being kind of fair|0 businessinsidercom is a news outlet If possible please resubmit with a link to a primary source such as a peerreviewed paper or official press release Rule 2If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Starbucks is going to an all togo store No more dine in httpsstoriesstarbuckscomstories2020navigatingthroughcovid19httpsstoriesstarbuckscomstories2020navigatingthroughcovid19|0 Lol no By that logic why block flights from China then as its surely already everywhere|1 The parks being over 2000 mi apart may have something to do with it and the obvious Ca has a lot more confirmed cases than Florida The whole Bay Area is shut down essential services only no work or school SoCal to follow suit shortly|0 Im in Columbia toohi neighbor screen door to hell is hilarious|0 I live in Phoenix and I cant wait for 90s Im really hoping it kills this thing|0 shhhh This sub is only for panicking|0 Known weeks ago this is just further proof of their astounding incompetence|0 Need to lose some weight anyways|0 Not a strange argument Its like you people think other somehow stumble into success Or maybe you dont understand sarcasm|1 It stays active for days most likelly for over a week and maybe for few weeks|1 This is the same response that Sweden Denmark and a ton of other Western countries are showing Very few in general are being honest about their numbers Italy Hong Kong and South Korea are better models for transparency but this IS a national security risk and each individual country is making their own decisionsI dont think anyone actually knows the best option at this point|1 tide pods area51 raid yadda yadda yadda so funny how college kids can be so stupid i thought it was a place for higher education but its literally a place to get the party gathered together to party|1 httpswwwgooglecomampstimecom5785146hongkongtoiletpaperrobberycoronavirus3famptrueThis wasnt the hand sanitizer one Im not sure where I saw that one But people robbed a store at knife point for fucking toilet paper so yknow People get irrational|0 Yep 2020 is worse|0 The good news is you probably wont die from this and school will probably be cancelled or will be taught via eLearning once this spreads more Its out of our hands now All we can do is practice good hygiene and continue to live your life Just take the proper steps to protect yourself and youll be ok Gotta just ride this out|1 the real problem in all of the equations is the human factor if we could just get rid of all the humans oh waitthis is why encouraging ppl to not freak out is important a threatening storm can cause people to clear out grocery stores the media could whip this into a froth without much effort facebook any comment |1 You do realize social distancing is about physical distancing right It means not meeting with people unless it is absolutely urgent and staying home It is not just about avoiding group activities it is about avoiding any social or physical contact period|1 Their commercials are awful anyway|0 Hi yes it isSource From the UK see Brexit|1 I think its time we start speaking up about canceling things like this Its definitely a reasonable precaution at this point|1 Angiotensin receptor blockers do not act on ACE2 They act on specific angiotensin receptors to cause their effects ACE and ACE2 function to regulate the amount angiotensin II I think it would be important to establish first whether patients on ACE inhibitors and ARB both have worse outcomes with COVID19 Then you might have to look into what feedback loops they have in common or differentEdit So the research Im reading says use of ACE inhibitors and ARBs both can increase expression of ACE2 likely through feedback loops If there is more ACE2 expression perhaps this is giving the virus more opportunities to enter the cells|1 Still dont get it sorry Irony is state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result Why eating Italian pasta is amusing for you Why do you think its funny that items bought from affected areas are amusing Do you find antibiotics amusing of face masks Of car parts are they ironic to you |1 It wouldnt take care of the whole period no but it would still largely reduce the amount of time theyre out in the world shedding virus Every bit helps|1 I actually work at staples as an inventory specialist so Im good on that stuff and I bought an asinine amount of purell when we by happenstance changed a SKU a few months ago so Im set on that I dont need anything other than distilled water for my CPAP machine|1 The first round will suck most probably Ill note that this is generally true of emerging infectious diseases See one of my other replies for some examples of how some wellknown diseases were exceptionally nasty when they first crossed over into naive populations That saidthe point is that they do tame down in time which was the concern of the person I originally commented toWhat if it continues to spread and theres no vaccine Viruses evolve as do we and diseases get less nasty over time because the virus needs a host to make baby viruses and it cant do that if the host is dead The perfect virus would be something akin to the milder common coldscausing JUST enough symptoms to spread via aerosol but not killing the host probably not even causing enough of a reaction in the host to get them to stop their activities because they feel like pooThe main trick in Sciencing againist COVID19 in this case is getting a vaccine and effective antivirals produced and in the population before the virus burns itself out SARS and MERS burned out before we could do this COVID19 is better at spreading and isnt quite as deadly or evolves into a bad chest cold like oh the many many other coronaviruses that have historically infected our ancestors and could well have been that eras version of COVID19 but which are nowchest colds Its that part that takes time but the good news is that this is being worked on probably the fastest of ANY emerging infectious diseaseAgain Ill compare with Ebola Ebola was first discovered in the mid70s Scientists have been working on Ebola vaccines and treatments for at least the past two decades and it was only this year that an effective Ebola vaccine was fasttracked for FDA approval likewise for most of the antivirals that are in use We only really have a hint on the definitive host of Ebolanamely we know bats are a reservoir species because bats have wonderfully weird immune systems that can pretty much let them be carriers of a lot of diseases without actually getting sick and we know certain kinds of rats and chimpanzees are secondary hostsLets compare with COVID19we have about three weeks of epidemiological data from outside the PRC thanks to the governor of Hubei prefecture trying to Not Rock The Boat we probably missed out on two to six months of research on this from its beginnings Thanks to practice weve had with SARS and MERS before those two diseases burned themselves out we have an expected date of a working vaccine for COVID19 six months to a year from now which is really incredibly incredibly fast usually even investigational new vaccines only given to members of the military to protect against potential bioweapons like the anthrax shot and modern smallpox vaccines take 23 years of development before they even hit clinical trials We already have antivirals in the pipeline and investigational new drug trials testing out certain antiretrovirals in COVID19 patients which again is incredibly fastthis stuff normally takes half a decade We have a pretty full genetic map of COVID19 and have been able to trace potential origins to specific bat coronaviruses quite possibly with a rest stop in pangolins that allowed some recombination with pangolin coronaviruses that enabled the spread to us especially with NOT really having records of where the virus may have come from before Wuhan this is actually really freaking amazing that potential hosts can be found that fast it took us the better part of a year to find the natural host of Sin Nombre hantavirus despite Dine traditional knowledge knowing about deer mice as a vector we now know Sin Nombre was actually a reemerging virus and it took over 30 years to narrow down bats as a potential Ebola reservoir species|1 You think giving out TP to drum up business will keep the economy from crashing and prevent hyperinflation Well then|1 KoreanAmerican here who has had Ni Hao shouted at me and treated like dirt because people assumed I was a Chinese tourist Racism and profiling affect everyone|0 This cant be applied to the current outbreakThe new device is already in use by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDCP in Shenzhen and Guangzhou while two more sets are being delivered to the CDCP in Hubei and NanshaWhat I would have preferred to hear is a method that could be applied to current machinesOur device has already been in commercial production in Shenzhen since 2017 It can also be used to detect other pathogens such as swine flu and enteropathogenic E coli Thats why our device obtained the international CE certification before this coronavirus outbreak said Gao|0 Theres no evidence for that at this juncture|0 They are starting patients out with Lopinavirritonavir and HIVAids drug first combined with the the chloroquine Thats interesting Their triage procedure is near the end of the documentThe China guide says 10 days of chloroquine I wonder if they delay because thats different than traditional which is once a week|1 I know people like instant info But thats not pertinent info to the current situation The focus should be on ICU turnover which appears low as of now Mostly out of Washington|1 Thanks for your insight its a good idea however very hard to implement at schools with several hundred studentsYou cant even know the risk of exposure from family members parents older siblings grandparents etc who have travelled to highrisk areas sometime in the last monthSo theres not much to do other than protect yourself and your own family the best way you see fit|1 Most celebrities are small potatoes to the business criminals that run America who are the real problem The people with hundreds of millions or billions who are funding think tanks and propaganda news channels are the real problem not celebrities Dipshit Joe reality TV star is nothing to these people|0 Maybe CORVID19 is the virus to end their stupidity|0 Stop giving it ideas|1 Agreed Probably to prevent a panic as their is not enough inventory for everyone to wear one and allow people to confidently go about their lives economy|1 Well if you stay at home and lose your job but dont die from the virus youre out a job when you recover If you go to work at least you have a job if you recover If you die nothing mattered|1 What is the chance this is MERS thats misdiagnosed as C19|1 So buy Amazon and Uber shares is what you are saying|1 I would rather store up early and leave the risk and business crunch to people who need these services more Im not sure if the people who deliver for these services are reckless or heroes taking risk to get food to people tbh I just wish we had a better social system|1 I assume the ones in ER arent in any sort of urgent needWhy in the world would you assume someone in the ER isnt in urgent need Obviously they are|1 Fuck yes if this is true|1 I totally empathize with you I have 3 auto immune conditions and it seems that people that are healthy just say oh its no big deal Well it is a big deal for people with compromised immune systems|1 Yes|1 I can understand why Utah would be cautious despite no confirmed cases A good chunk of their population is Mormon and a rite of passage for most Mormons is to travel the world going door to door sharing their gospel Considering how many might have traveled and returned within the time of December and now They might have had cases for months but no way to detect them|1 And thats why a couple crews from the Kirkland fire department are now quarantined toohttpswwwkiro7comnewslocaltwodozenemergencyworkersquarantinedpossiblecoronavirusJJD6ZERIZBG2FEF5HDZIULIIJM|0 As a Brit who doesnt have to deal with American media yes I have a fair amount of trust in BBC news This sub is full of speculation and its fear mongering at best idiocy at worstAlso using the words citations and evidence doesnt make you sound smart in this case really quite the opposite chief|1 Maybe we will get lucky and find they traded them in for cash the same as they did with the grain reserveshttpsmodernsurvivalblogcomprepstheusnationalgrainreservesareapparentlygone|1 I work in the ER and Im going on a cruise in April Believe it or not a cruise would be downgrading my risk|0 The initial case study I read said average of 5 days incubation time and from the start of symptoms people would take a nosedive severe breathing difficulties end of second week or recover at that point So ca day 17 of infection with significant variability so they could start on day 10 or take until day 25 So roundabout now for those infected in the first smaller wave|0 This gives me so much hope for humanity Thank you|1 i love reddit|1 From Dune I didnt read the book I watched the miniseries Highly recommended|1 Tbf I highly doubt testing is the only thing skewing the numbers|0 Amen thanks Glad someone put it out therr|1 Well we could consider that when situations get better but as for now we are already busy with our own problems|0 I wanna believe the good news so bad but since they lied and cover on many things so it always become doubtful when they come up with any news Sigh|0 1 I signed up to teach and I love it I do I consider myself lucky to have the job Ive got I did not sign up for paper work in triplicate as proof that Ive taught little Timmy to count to 5 I did not sign up to get Corona2 My salary is good compared to shelf stackers yes Its poor compared to every other graduate though And I have to be a graduate with all the related debt that goes with it to do my job3 My job is all about leadership We teach our children to make the right choices all the time When the WHO questions the governments choices it becomes a bit toughGrow a pair Thats the advice Ive needed when Ive had sleepless nights lots and when Ive struggled to put on weight due to stress Ill try that thats bound to work That should be the slogan to help get more teachers in place we facing a shortage Choose to teach grow a pair|1 Its literally the top news story on the BBC my guy|1 That some angry brain|0 Yup like lions The weak and the old get eaten first|0 The key to keep in mind here is that this is data comparing two illnesses rather than comparing age groups within one illness COVID is more deadly for all ages but seniors are already hit harder by the seasonal flu so the deadliness for that age bracket between the two illnesses is not as large When you look at the stats just for COVID it is deadlier for those over 60 than it is for other age groups as you have previously heard|0 Im a nurse in Orlando right next to Disney Some of my coworkers are just brushing this off as the flu We are so fucking screwed|0 Lets hope not because then we are stuck with Pence God help us all then|1 that doesnt explain why the international cases arent reflecting it if this was super deadly to 3rd world countries all the 3rd world countries around them would be infected|1 Apples Q and pumpkin seeds zinc would make a great combination|1 I mean if you have a coinfection with streptococcal pneumonia then antibiotics are definitely the way to go|1 I live 30min from Nola and my citys mayor hasnt even addressed this People here dont care and think its just media hype Everyone makes fun of me for social distancing|1 Usually when theres a case it gradually gets known about within a couple of days It may not be on national news but hopefully on local Ear to the ground|1 This vid had me shaking right thru the bones |0 HK Singapore TW all went to the SARS and the medical and institution monitor systems were well trained and reasonable prepare for it x200BThe rest of the world was not impact by SARS by much x200BWuhan should react much better It was not impacted by SARS as much as HK TW Singapore Beijing GZ etc Also the government suppressed the news and doctorss warning x200BLesson Always listen to the doctors and infection specialists Let them talk and listen very carefully|1 Fire up the old imgflip meme generator|0 Im convinced at this point that the federal government has taken a stance as an enemy of the American people and is actively working to murder as many as possible It seems utterly unimaginable but look at the facts No person or organization that did not specifically intend harm would have done any number of the insane actions or said any of the completely misleading and obfuscating things these assholes have Tens of thousands at best of Americans are going to pay with their lives for the delays purposeful mismanagement and massive misinformation campaign in place to this point If my fellow Americans dont take back their country after this I will no longer count myself as one of them As it stands today I am resolute in my self quarantine against the enemy that is murdering my countrymen their government and the corporations that run it|0 Absolutely but it is incredibly rare for someone to have that kind of critical thought|0 That would be good I just dont think itIs likely The areas that show low mortality like South Korea Japan and China ex Hubei are the opposite They isolated it and treated everyone quicklyEverywhere else including Hubei shows that community spread leads to higher CFR The more widely it spreads without detection the more people it kills Thats what makes this virus particularly nasty|0 Yeah Im not so sure a similar thing in the US or Europe would have fared different Trump would have denied it and the EU would be closely monitoring while doing nothing until its too late|0 I will be messaging you in 9 days on 20200321 022534 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003212002253420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgpu41weare10daysawayfromthehospitalsgettingfk64i9kcontext316 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffgpu412Fweare10daysawayfromthehospitalsgetting2Ffk64i9k2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032120023A253A3420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fgpu41InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Well if you are locked down you also develop more healthy hygiene habits too which tends to last a while even and if society takes hygiene more seriously it goes a long way to reducing tranmission risk|1 Fuck China|0 Taking a very cynical perspective forcing this on them would be a mistake if you can block imported cases1 You have a bad example to justify your measures2 They will have herd immunity you profit from3 You are out of obligations to help4 You can learn from their misfortuneScandinavia and the British Isles are easy to cut off in terms of travel|0 Theyre fucking idiots if this is the caseThe evidence shows that early and drastic action is how you tackle thisPutting your head in the sand will only make it 100 times worse down the road|0 Im in Austin Texas Not particularly thrilled to be in an urban area of 1 million but it is what it is If things get bad I might bug out to rural western Massachusetts where my parents live I have about 1 month of food for me and my family and good PPE I am hoping that our climate will help there is already a fair amount of 70 F weather and sun so the vitamin D intake should be a lot higher than some regions plus the effect of UV killing the virus on many outdoor surfaces The US food system is very centralized in California and the midwest but growing conditions in Texas are pretty good now until JuneJuly when it gets too hotStay safe friend|1 shhh This idiot thinks China is some shitty puny little country that can be pushed around by sanctions like other nations Nobody will do anything because nobody can do anythingChina isnt a country that opens its doors to sanctions China is the one who knocks|0 I do not think it is a good idea I do not think even in first class you can guarantee a meter space from your fellow passengers So if you fly there and test negative do you really want to fly backIf you fly there and test positive there is a good chance you picked it up on the airplane China will involuntarily treat you at your expense You will have a difficult time leaving China until you settle up the tabI would recommend staying at home and hopefully not being in a position to need treatment|1 There is no point At this time its better that they are not reporting the number because the number will be wrong anyway A number will give Americans false hope that we are okay It will allow everyone who doesnt think this pandemic is an actual problem If there arent enough working tests then the number doesnt matter At this point we need to focus on using universal precautions to prevent spread and acknowledge we all have an individual duty to prevent making others sick We need good leadership We need our leaders our bosses our business owners our local governments to step up and compensate for the inadequacies and complacencies of the federal governmentWe all forget that the CDC is part of the United States fed govt We forget that Trump eliminated the Pandemic Committee We forget that he cut the number of jobs at the CDC making them severely understaffed Everyone is waiting and watching but we literally have nothing to watch we are waiting for a certain number to pop up on the tv screen Waiting for the number of deaths to shock us but the testing is inadequate and therefore pointless Wash your hands stay home and dont make others sick|0 I knew this in the middle of January I started buying masks and nonperishable food then One more run tomorrow to give me a 6 month supplyEveryone still has time to stock up Be sure to get your vitamins and OTC medications|1 A problem you and the guys on the plane both clearly struggle with See You have something in common|0 Tencent only owns a minority share they dont have enough to call any shots Its like how various funds or organizations or individual investors own Apple common stock most dont have enough to do anything controlling with itNo idea if that 5 share allows them access to any interesting backend data though|1 We have an entire floor dedicated to COVID patients Currently the ER receives patients isolates them administers any testing and theyre moved to the holding floor until results are givenTheres no need for an entire hospital in our area to quarantine COVID patients We currently have 5 rule out patients on the floor as of 7AM this morning and 1 confirmed case in isolation behind a negative pressure controlled double door|0 For those of us with anxiety this is really our time to shine lol Finally the outside world is matching my inner dialogue for the last 20 years|1 Yeah I brought it up with my roommates a couple weeks ago one of which works with kids teaching MMA He basically said dont worry Im not going to catch it Were good So fucking arrogant like you dont live with severe chronic neutropenia but your roommate does so smarten up please|1 It is ugly We take slow steps forward as a species and then get yanked violently backward Never ending whiplash|0 Wish I could Ill probably be in PPE that is if we have masks left caring for COVID patients hoping I dont have to take up permanent residence at the hospital|1 Im in Washington stateking county allow me to post from my student email you didnt read what I saidAs of 4 pm Monday March 9 2020 we have no confirmed cases of COVID19 in our schools Our Executive Leadership Team continues to meet twice daily to address the concerns and needs of our students and staff The district is actively engaging in contingency planning for the possibility of extended school closures We continue to answer your questions and we are frequently updatingour FAQ web pageLast week at a press conferenceSeattle King County Public Healthreiterated that closing schools and districts when there has not been a confirmed case in a student or staff member is not currently recommended by them or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention We will continue to take direction from theSeattle King CountyPublic Health on school closuresIf their directions change and targeted or widespread school closures are implemented we will let you know quickly through our KSD communication channelsWe continue to act out of an abundance of caution to protect everyones health and wellbeing this is from an elementary now Ill post one from uniHighlines campus remains open and facetoface classes arenotbeing canceled At this time no members of the Highline community have been diagnosed with COVID19The college continues to follow the recommendations ofKing County Department of Public Healthin all matters related to the coronavirus Public Health is not recommending closing colleges and schools at this time unless there has been a confirmed case of COVID19However while classes will continue to be held we are giving instructors optionsInstructors may elect to continue holding classes in person with no changes Or they could decide to move their courses online or use a videoconferencing tool such as Zoom When instructors decide to make such changes rest assured that they will take into account the unique needs of our student populationHighline serves the most diverse student population in the state Many of our students have limited or little access to technology Simply moving instruction online will not serve all our students equitably or well Unlike some of our peer institutions we need to provide a wider range of options to students and instructorsInstructors are encouraged to notify students as soon as possible if they elect to change the delivery method for their courses Likewise students should contact their instructors if they have questions about attending classesWe will strive to be as flexible as possible in accommodating students unique situationsStudents are urged to contact their instructors to make arrangements if they need to miss class for any reason Highlines goal is to continue to provide quality education to everyone while avoiding penalizing students during this evolving situationPersonally I dont care either way but this is just one of many|1 Well to be fair they are more likely to have holidays in Italy and other hot spots|1 Even if he is a sad troll the fact remains they are out there waiting for their chance to get even or whatever bullshit they put inside their stupid little headsSo itll either be them or a multitude of other peopleI would love to see charges brought up on the people knowingly infecting others like the guy that flew from Aussie to my country NZ while his test was processing then when they landed he announced he had Coronavirusthanks tosser you shouldnt have been flying anyway while waiting for test results|0 This I work in retail got the we care about our associates email speech If youre sick stay home Impossible for us as we already run on a skeleton crew thanks to hours being cut And calling out is discouraged on a good day We dont have the manpower to cover call outs Many of us can not afford to be off work Im one of them Talk about a rock and hard place|1 Im not sure about microbial effects of propylene glycol glycerine is used in air purification systems though Im not sure if thats the purifying agent or just an additive or evaporative of some kind that helps it function to disperse the purifying agent I am more worried about what is in the flavors safe for human consumption but are they safe for the lungs Those sweet flavors are using artificial sweeteners food flavorings made up of many different flavors to replicate food flavors etc no long term studies have really been done yet people breath them while cooking and in factories but breathing heavy amounts several times a day Who knows|1 and yet 100 out of 100 experts agree that quarantine works|1 Total confirmed 7375 1492Active cases 6387 1326 divided in 2180 337 selfquarantine 3557 906 hospitalized 650 83 in ICU Deceased 366 133 age range are 0491 50591 606914 707939 808960 9018 Recovered 622 33Tested 49937 7875Thank you The civil defence web page used to have this information inc per region but I can no longer find it |0 karens would spread the infection amount ppl to help them develop natural inmunity and then tell themso yes|1 No doubt it will appeal to the mindless idiots on here|0 Not to mention if you get the flu shot but happen to get a strain of the flu not covered by this years vaccine you can still see some benefit in shorter duration and severity of the flu|0 Whats sad is how dense you are and thinking this whole thing is some political hit job Trump fucked up just admit it and move on|0 I really dont understand why theyre bothering quarantining these people at this point In my state people who are symptomatic and at high risk of having been exposed are just being told to self quarantine at home and call their doctor if things get worse|0 They did in that any private enterprise in China is screwed due to basically being shut down for an entire quarter They didnt in that its China and private enterprise is still subject to the heavy intervention of the state So if your enterprise goes under the state might just absorb it and keep it going kind of like how it was when it was private or they might just shuffle money around so that your zombie company can keep going This is generally the point that Chinaskeptics focus on that you cant keep shuffling around the debt forever but in this case this is why China can react so forcefully to the outbreak in ways that western nations cant|0 Thats really awesome you were able to do that I dont know what you want from me here|1 Its been changed im not illiterate friend|0 Absolutely Now stop the political talk|0 Im confused here has Hong Kong closed its bordersin additionhttpswwwscmpcomnewshongkongpoliticsarticle3048998coronavirus24familieshongkongreturnhubeiprovinceand|0 around 20cigsdaythink about how much time you wasted just for smoking that thats like 3 hours of smoking every day|0 Yes they are I once worked for one of their vendors and they fucked us over big time|0 Just some dark humor to lighten the mood With you too I dont want this virus anywhere near my boomer parents|1 Just tell him every time you go out Im isolating from you for two weeks that might just convince him Assuming hes not your livein boyfriend|1 Prof Mark Harris Professor of Virology University of Leeds said The reports that patients who tested negative subsequently tested positive again is clearly of concern It is unlikely that they would have been reinfected having cleared the virus as they would most likely have mounted an immune response to the virus that would prevent such reinfection The other possibility therefore is that they did not in fact clear the infection but remained persistently infected Although coronaviruses generally cause shortterm selflimiting infections which are cleared there is some evidence in the scientific literature for persistent infections of animal coronaviruses mainly in bats httpswwwsciencemediacentreorgexpertreactiontopeoplebeingretestedpositiveforcoronavirusafterinitialrecoveryegcasereportedinjapanwhereawomanhasbeenconfirmedasacoronaviruscasefor2ndtime|0 Ref httpswwwcbccanewshealthcoronavirusselfisolatehome15493910httpswwwcbccanewshealthcoronavirusselfisolatehome15493910Can relatives housemates stay inthe home of someone in selfisolation Yes however health officials advise that any personin selfisolation should avoid contact with others keeping a distance of at least two metres and wear a mask that covers theirnose and mouth Officialsalsoadvise staying in separate rooms and using separate bathrooms if possible|1 No thats what happens when fear takes over and people stereotype|0 You can thank the shitty fucking message that the govt used to try to control panic its no worse than the flu people took that to heart and unfortunately it will end up costing those who are most at risk dearly Hope your family returns safely|0 If its any consolation I think you are totally sane and valid in your worries Stay healthy friend|1 He was in my local news too I guess the story really spread I hope hes alright|1 Terrifying as we actually need help Harris County Judge just publicly reported they could not get testing authorizedhttpsabc13comhealthharriscolackscoronavirustestingcapabilitiesjudgesays6003119|0 Decent guess here is that serious shortness of breathThat was one of the issues early on in understanding Chinas numbers They had way more pneumonia cases than they could support so its unlikely that a person just experiencing mild shortness of breath would be classified as a serious case When your health care system isnt impacted like that any shortness of breath at all is serious|1 Not here in EU its people my generation 20 30 who are the most ignorant|0 Nah they just dont have the capacity to test They will let it be an emergency before they admit its a problem Tourism is Thailands lifeblood If they discover or admit a problem they are all sorts of screwed There is a national interest in keeping this under wraps thats even higher than most countries They will only act after its a pandemic There is zero chance its not spreading like wildfire through Thailand|0 That doesnt make sense though Once it starts getting exponentially worse the numbers will skyrocket and the stockmarket will get obliterated even more At that point it will be too late to actually do anything about it|0 People are already terrible at washing their hands which is pretty effin basic so now you want to train them for putting a mask on and disposing of it safely Good luck with that|1 Hell yea|0 How could no one be talking about it in politics when he wore it to the coronavirus funding bill vote itself He was trying to mock it and get attention to himself though still voted for it since the president endorsed it|0 I was going to get tested for Cargobavirus but unfortunately I am being audited by the IRS|0 Infinitely more impactful But trump told me this is fake news and blown out of proportion by do nothing democrats and CNN just to make him look bad|0 A lot of people are on edge right now Everything youre feeling is normal Its good to lay off the news or go on a limited diet No ones knows whats going to happen or when|1 I dont China I hate their totalitarian government and corrupt ruling class I love the Chinese people and their magnificent culture Chinese culture is one of the great achievements of humanity The Chinese Communist Party however is a sink of depravity I say as a socialist|1 I was told by Comcast they couldnt handle the deluge of data flowing through their linesthisthis cant be true|0 Edit Thank you for the silver In those countries the virus was able to be containedContainment is only a temporary step before moving into mitigation Most people cite South Korea as doing a good job with CV19 and theyve already changed from containment to mitigation Take a look at this oneminute animation of CV19 spreading there httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv2sM1y0EI3AA similar spread has already been happening undetected in the US for 8 weekshttpsbedfordioblog and is now past the point of containment Its time to shift gears and focus on mitigation which means slowing it down and flattening the curve Job 1 is Slow It Down enough to spread out suddensurges of 70 yearolds hitting ERs sliding into ARDS and overwhelming limited criticalcare resources like mechanical respirators That was the primary cause of preventable CV19 deaths in Wuhan and Lombardy Job 2 is to not slow down CV19 too much because overachieving on 1 will slam us straight into the global economic depression that were currently spiraling toward So we have to shoot the gap here between a rock on one side CV19 and a Hard Place on the other namely a worldwide economic meltdown that could kill more people than CV19 primarily in the thirdworld leave 10M working Americans unemployed and create a quartermillion homeless American families When we arent doing any testsI agree it would be lovely to have millions more tests because wed have better population data which would end any debate about containment vs mitigation because everyone would see theres no containing CV19 Other than that what would having a million or two swabs handy actually change at this point Tests dont stop virii Now I agree that having a hundred thousand tests ready and waiting about six weeks ago would have allowed us to slow down CV19 even more by playing a game of whackamole containment with it for a month or so as Korea managed to do in Daegu but it was always inevitable the rising tsunami would overwhelm any dams we put around it The cases are still growing in the US exponentiallyYes but I dont get why thats notable This is going pretty much as expected so its not surprising Our awareness of how many cases exist is going to continue to increase in direct proportion to the number of tests we perform However that has nothing to do with the actual spread of the virus in the population Its like tidewaters rising at midnight Whether we have lights pointed at the water to see it or not wont change anything about the rising water itself Epidemiologists are pretty good at roughly projecting this stuffhttpstwittercomIDMODORGstatus1237881591784865793 without hundreds of thousands of swabs though more swabs will definitely help the projections be more HD And experts can even already project the likely impact of interventions like those that millions of individual Americans and businesses independently decided to adopt today in an amazing example of selforganizing collaborative coordination Id dearly love more tests and Im thrilled it looks like were starting to get them now thanks Quest LabCorp and Gates Foundation but not for containment but rather to help us rightsize our mitigation tactics so we can shoot the gap successfully between 1 flatten the curve just enough and 2 avert global economic apocalypse|1 Or are you know you could just google French covid death yourself and get your own sources Its not like its some under reported on event that will only have 1 news sources talking about it even searching just France brings up that as the top results right now|0 Im in a place where we are free to make our own decisions|1 a position which ive agreed with is to play it safe we know facts about the flu or sars but were not exactly sure if its gonna play out the exact same way with this if it turns out to play out exactly the same great but i dont think theres a genuine consensus that its gonna happenand no i dont think were all gonna die or that society will collapse or anything like that and unfounded panic is definitely gonna do more damage than the virus itself|0 What No if you dont make payments the principal stays the same|0 Cutting funding for cdc was probably the right move sense they are worthless anyway|0 Nevermind apparently the amount of cases that become seriousin critical condition to need a ventilator is closer to 7 So if I redid this math using 5 as a figure for number of people need ventilators it is 76065 people Subtract the number of ventilators we currently have you are left with 73893The people who unfortunately get sick enough to need ICU and ventilators apparently need the ICU bed for weeks So the ventilators wont be free very quickly If 30 of the population got sick within one month thats over 70000 people that could pass away from lack of ventilator|0 Pandemic team was fired|0 Oh I understand why they did it but what was their public excuse|1 Assuming this doesnt just go away what are people going to do about rentingmovingleases This isnt a great time for anyone to be moving because their rent will double if they renew|0 Im in the center of NYC and if you say its just the flu everyone will agree with you and if you disagree then thats when people will think youre a weirdo|0 Yeah I know but Im saying this parent has every right to pull their kid out if its unsafe|1 This entire thread started because existing evidence clearly contradicts the surgeon generals tweet that facemasks dont work Your response here was to first repeat that same false claim then misrepresent the research when you were called out on that and now you have resorted to citing the very tweet that this entire thread is questioning as supporting evidence for your false claimHave you even had a day of science training in your life What exactly are your credentials as an epidemiologist|1 I mean fiscally impossible or irresponsible theyre both such facile and bullshit terms on the order of acceptable loss or collateral damage Its prioritizing avoiding a short term financial loss against the well being of millions of people both in your country and abroad It is socially irresponsible to go ahead with mass international gatherings at the moment Conference Flu is a thing people talk about its a reality Mitigating a financial loss is so irresponsible in the face of potentially setting up a situation to amplify the spread of a new virus|0 NSFWNSFL tag saved me from watching this a couple weeks ago It is heartbreaking especially for those with children Be warned it shows young kids who have passed|0 The difference is that they hold money and power Pretty big difference|1 So shitty You shouldnt have to live that way|0 Not sure hed have time|0 Spread like an Austrailian wildfire in India|1 couldnt agree more|0 I think this virus acts abit like hiv where it can stay dormant in the body for a long time before it actives causing symptoms but i think it causes ADE or atleast theirs some evidence from some sources people are posting in the coronavirus sub of reinfection and people not being able to develop immunity due to this|1 If a stable genius who had an uncle that taught at MIT couldnt foresee this no one could|0 Go on strike so your employer eventually complies Go on welfare Your employers are why people are getting sick and dying and we need to comply with the government recommendations and have everyone stay home There might not be any bills to pay soon enough|0 AgreedI wish our federal government would step up though|1 Absolutely bang on they are like circling vulturesAnd they arent all as up to date and informed as they pretend|1 Toinvestigate the relationship between temperature and immune response Iwasaki and an interdisciplinary team of Yale researchers spearheaded by Ellen Foxman a postdoctoral fellow in Iwasakis lab examined the cells taken from the airways of mice They compared the immune response to rhinovirus when cells were incubated at 37 degrees Celsius or core body temperature and at the cooler 33 degrees Celsius We found that the innate immune response to the rhinovirus is impaired at the lower body temperature compared to the core body temperature Iwasaki said The study also strongly suggested that the varying temperatures influenced the immune response rather than the virus itself Researchers observed viral replication in airway cells from mice with genetic deficiencies in the immune system sensors that detect virus and in the antiviral response They found that with these immune deficiencies the virus was able to replicate at the higher temperature That proves its not just virus intrinsic but its the hosts response thats the major contributor Iwasaki explainedhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201501150105170014htm|1 downside is economic and social stress nobody in charge wants to handle this stuff on their watch but too bad you have the public trust make the hard call Maybe it opens up new resourcesbut also better to be overcautious and wrong than the alternative my 2 cents|0 Some good news amid the tragedy|0 Deep freezer is a meal prep game changer even without pandemic looming|1 There was an article on Sixth Tone yesterday about a tuberculosis patient in a Wuhan hospital who was forced to vacate the hospital for incoming virus patients Im sure he wasnt the only one Sad stuff|0 Same here about not knowing what to buy I kind of live week to week on eggs coconut oil some veggies and tortillas Mostly because its easy and quick and life iswas so busy Havent been to a grocery store yet I had TP and dont use a lot and kind of wondering what its gonna be like when I go tomorrow Weird times man|1 Has malaria ever been endemic to Northern MexicoBaja I would suspect that it might be something more familiar to pharmacies located in Oaxaca Chiapas Campeche etc|0 I would have liked them to react as Singapore did but the horse has already bolted Still the measures applied there could make some headway at our current stageMuch more work on containment wasis needed Proactive not reactive Cancel major gatherings Allow parents to withdraw children from school without fines and do school work at home if they have family members at home in the high risk group|1 Idk why you got downvotedWe honestly dont know for certain COVID19 is such a new disease we have not had enough time to see if recovered develop antibodies or if it will mutate like a flu leading to reinfection We likely wont know for at least another 6 months if not closer to 18 months|1 Link Im waiting for them to do it up here in Lindsay but they cant even officially tell restaurants to close at this point beyond a strong recommendation Its horseshit and its going to make things worse|1 Thank you I have expressed my serious doubts about Indianas numbers to my family all day No one thinks Im completely crazy but theyre not exactly on board with a cover up|0 Have been thinking along the same lines Gathering information from the posted reports One aspect of it thats been present in other events is lag time between events occurring and reports being published In cases there information is metered results can be skewed Days have been sorta full|0 my company instituted a 14 day paid administration leave for anyone who contracts it or has been exposed to it|0 Not chains so wouldnt really be worth adding but bars and nightclubs were ordered to close today at 5pm Several of our local bars started posting on Facebook that because they have a full kitchen they are considered a restaurant and not a bar so they would remain open They encouraged people to come on down this week and weekend One is even hosting a bikini contest In addition to this the first confirmed case in our county was reported today So thats fun I guess|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Natural selection at its finest|1 Excellent point South Korea is treating it as China did A combat war against a tiny assailantEdit Korea for Korean|0 BANAHNAH NAH NAH|0 Thanks for sharing|1 But you cant just take out a kidney and put it in the fridge both donor and the patient needed to be tested if they match then transfer has to be done within a extreme short time after the organ is removed Eyeballs transplant is similar too Plus prisoners are usually weaker in worse health many are heroin additives how would their organs be healthy enough for a patient with kidney failure|0 and pulling now is heavy on the stupid If you wanted to pull the time was early last week at the latestlol almost 3000 down today And its headed furtherlol|0 that was my plan if the need comes im gonna cycle them like this i should have enough to bring the risk to almost none|1 I wish I knew how many people are going all in Blast from the Past style Guess well know in 35 years p|1 Really wish I could give you an award|1 We dont have a car so I am quite limited for travel This virus is the scariest thing in my lifetime If I didnt have a lung condition I wouldnt be so worried I am doing my best to keep everything clean and virus free There arent any known cases where I am at the moment but that just means nobody has tested positive and its not easy to get a test The numbers are higher than weve been told anyway The only good thing about this is that children dont seem to be affected much and none have died|1 No shit I went to the store the other day just to add some to my supply and bought 100lbs of rice and 100lbs of beans for like 60 That would keep my family of 4 fed for a few months right there|0 Big nope It is absolutely their job to declare a pandemic when certain criteria are met|1 Really our Dutch RIVMGovernment actions up to now are one of the worst notsteppingup in the worldI dont know if it will make you happy to learn this but your government is not one of the worse Its pretty average in terms of government reactions go All government reaction has been pretty appalling Yours doesnt seem out of the ordinary to meI dont know you should be happy that the Dutch are not especially bad or despair that were all a bunch of incompetents I live in Germany and the reaction here is lackluster after months of government denial The people are still in denial by the way The US isnt doing jack shit and France is well France People in Hong Kong are yelling about their own government and though its one of the better contained areas the govt still dragged their feet on travel bans Nobody comes out looking good|1 When the time comes think theyll do the same for America If they make the offer think our gubment will allow itI dont|1 I know you most likely wouldnt call the cops on your Dad but someone of authority needs to tell him Im sure theres a police nonemergency number available in your region|1 Well yes and no Youre at risk no matter what age you are if you have a weak immune system A lot of people in Holland smoke so its no surprise|0 Please do not postcomment links to pages containing deliberate misinformation rCOVID19 has scientifically accurate informationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uGillysDaddy at 17708 nices2 uOwnagePwnage at 11911 nices3 uRespectfulNiceties at 8332 nices40927 uokiegirl93 at 2 nicesI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 Absolutely I didnt mean to sound judgemental This is a terrible position for them to be in I just want folks to be aware that its not the customers that are choosing not to eat for health reasons that are affecting their paycheck but the greedy employers that refuse to budge when theres a pandemic going on You can bet your bottom dollar those same employers will take paid sick leave if they fall ill It really is a terrible position for food workers who already have a stressful job|0 This is normal for any organization I know Trump isnt held in a very high opinion especially here but attempt to keep partisan politics out of it There are a lot of moving parts and its important to keep the message focused and centered Imagine an organizationbusiness is dealing with a public crisis They know that many people will be asked to comment or give an update Because of the complexity of the situation the organization needs to have a plan to release information from limited sources Even if everyone is on the same page if everyone puts it in their own words to the media it will become very confusing So in situations like that subject matter experts or even leadership must work with PR to ensure a unified message gets out This happens in any organization not because they want to prevent certain details from getting out not to say that doesnt happen but because there needs to be a clear and focused message Have your opinion about how this is being handled have your opinion about the Trump administration but having SMEs be on the same page before blasting out a message is simply good leadership not censorship|1 A nurse who cared for a coronavirus patient would be one of the highest priority people to testEven if you have a list of a million people waiting for tests this nurse would easily be in the top ten people in terms of priority given the likelihood of actual exposure and the likelihood of infecting others|1 The biggest problem is people from China and other affected areas are taking layover flights to bypass travel bans And officials in airports are letting it happen even after seeing Chinese passports Its going to be hard to contain this especially when theres little to no screening And even if there is some people are asymptomatic and passing through with ease to spread wildly|0 Howcome I rarely see gyms included in these statements People literally sweating all over each other and touching the same equipment I mean its good and well sanitizing all the equipment before use but what about the guy sneezing a couple feet away from you while youre breathing heavily|1 No Handwashing and natural social distancing will have the most impact Wearing masks will be of limited benefit when you look at the overall numbers It is about timing the peak not avoiding it|1 Youre missing a big point The CFR of 2 is reflecting the situation when these people got sick not today So if the CFR is 2 and these people were sick for lets say 3 weeks That means that there was approx 100 sick people in Iran 3 weeks ago|0 Recommend you review thishttpsoldredditcomrnCoVcommentsf38h4ztranscriptforcdctelebriefingcdcupdateon and listen to the audio|1 WHO is a fucking joke now If you do not fight disease in every fucking country no matter the politics then you a joke to your own fucking cause|1 I said it once ill say it again this sounds more like a conspiracy as in they want it to spread Dunno why CDC cannot be this incompetent If they are Im afraid for our country future|0 I feel like that would never happen in the US at least not in time People are so tribal that if an R suggested a lockdown half the Ds would fight it and vice versaThats the problem If you can get people united you can get things done but Devin Nunes was just on FOX telling people it was a great time to travel|1 Yes I actually started practicing not touching my face in early January just because i needed someplace to put my nervous energy and i know its a habit If you arent literally training yourself out of the habit you touch your face THOUSANDS of times a day One way I know i am improving is my complexion has improved tremendously in the last 6 weeks So i know i am touching my face less and washing my phone more my mild yet persistant chin acne has cleared up completely Also no hangnails or nail biting|1 But its just a flu |0 During the summer maybe a family member helps or they group watch on off days with friends Not everyone has it all planned out and I think a lot of healthcare workers would be in trouble if schools closed The system needs a way to handle all of this so needed people can get to work Were going to start testing and its gunna be a really high numberAnd everyones going to freak out Finna get rough be safe|1 At least some states are acting appropriately You know what our joke of a state leadership we have Hawaii has only tested 45 people 45 Thats out of 1m people that lives in Hawaii Our medical team is a joke saying that people that do not have symptoms are not infectious Totally contradicting what the CDC had said So apprently they are more knowledgable than the CDC My state govt is a big clown joke of a circus|1 Please dont cough in the comment section Cough in your elbow|1 I did stop buying masks once it came out that there might be a shortage for the medical communities However it seems like it should be the medical communitys responsibility to have an emergency stockpile Now regular people have to give up whatever minuscule protection theyre able to provide themselves because the medical community is unprepared|0 Disagree US health care is ridiculously expensive but the quality of care is no worse than countries with socialized healthcare|0 Are any of these in clinical trials Im not a virologist but how reasonable would it be to get a successful antiviral Are viruses vs bacteria especially hard to attack We dont have a cure for the common cold and tamiflu is only moderately effective|1 Please dont put this on the US as a whole I know some plurality of voters elected this individual but he really doesnt represent the country as a whole|1 Likely in air conditioned spaces Places such as Cambodia Vietnam and Myanmar should prove relevant adjacent to China but warmer and relatively less use of ac|1 Its alright people are regulalry denying facts in this thread im just getting downvoted by a bunch of pooh fans|0 Hate to break it for you but the American government also benefits when it implants the concept of China bad in its citizens Did you ever notice how incredibly antiChina Reddit as an entirety is Do you think thats a coincidence too|0 Ok china sent a lot of suplies too italy and Iran I think So this means that they production is so so big or that they really contained this virus as much as possible Hope its the second one But if they didnt contain it then they wudnt sent help probably so its Nice too see china helping others|1 Emergency creates innovation|1 Did you need supplemental oxygen and did you develop it while already under the auspices of world class care Its definitely big news but it could be an outlier|1 Im not really worried Weve closed schools restaurants bars casinos etc gatherings of 50 or more people etc What is left for people to go out and do This alone should help halt the spread of the virus|1 Just because the victims are elderly or have prior conditions it doesnt mean its not a bad thing I have seen many people say things on the lines of it only kills the elderly it only kills those with prior conditions How is that a justificationYoung people are have sometimes Ill be fine fuck the rest of the world attitude Heck for a 20yo someone in their 40s is an old man nearly the same kind of dinosaur as someone in their 80s and the Ill be fine crowd finds it hard to relate to them bothAs people go through life they get more consideration for the world not all but some but at this point theyre usually old enoug to have at least one medical condition eg more than half people over 40 in the US have hypertension and its just one underlying condition of many which a person can have so they stop writing such shit in social media|0 And we will die of same virus|0 Wtf|0 You hope theyre not total morons and try to work from home depending on what your work is|1 Definitely this sub seems to feed on negativity|0 Easy to say when you have more money than 99 of all humans to ever exist lol|1 Even lower than thatestimates of the overall CFR in all infections asymptomatic or symptomatic of approximately 1 95 confidence interval 054|1 its so infuriating the way they lie to us like were little kids Its honestly so condescending|1 So look at the last sentence of their conclusions from the abstractWith many people returning from a long holiday China needs to prepare for the possible rebound of the epidemicThen look at their very last sentence before acknowledgementsHuge numbers of people will soon be returning to work and school after the extended New Years holiday We need to prepare for a possible rebound of the COVID19 epidemic in the coming weeks and monthsThis is called bookending Its the same thing the Hong Kong University doctors did in their Lancet reportEssentially its please do not miss our biggest concernSo there it is Massive amount of people returned to Beijing There were videos of the trains and highway traffic of people trying to return I can see most people putting off returning until Feb 2nd 24 day incubation has been observed February 26th might be the date to try to hold out till|1 general rule of thumb for china If its bad news multiply it by 10 if its good news divide by 5|0 Leather craftsman here job appears to be safe for now Have tons of friends in servicehospitality that were laid off though what a wild situation|1 People dont seem to understand that for men their job is the only thing they feel theyre good for and if they arent doing that then they are good for nothingIn his mind losing his job MEANS losing his wife and familyIn his mind if he stays home the job disappears and his family starves and leaves and he shoots himself for failing as a man That job is the ONE THING his effort has a direct influence on making right In a situation where he is in every other conceivable way a useless powerless waste of food and resources the only thing he can do is earn a paycheckIn his mind this is a loselose situationSo look if his coming and going is the problem maybe she should suggest he get a motel room for the duration so if he gets sick he wont take it home with him Then at least he can still be contributing materially to the household making sure his company survives and he still has a job to go back to by the time this is all over and she can get a taste of what life will be like without him if shes that interested in exploring the option|0 Im an Albertan currently in Texas where my coworkers are saying that Covid19 is a Democrat hoax to discredit TrumpAlbertans are dumb but they arent dumb enough to think Italy and Norway are shutting down because the US Democrats asked them to|0 You know what Im sure youre right I dont look at resumes all day so maybe theres something Im unaware ofMaybe you could give an example of how the word cyber would be used in a resume Im genuinely curious here|1 Have you been in italy during an active war|0 Its Chuys Theyve closed their stores in other parts of the country so I suspect Florida stores to do the same soon enough|0 Well bye everybody|1 This is as real as NASA finds earth like planet that could harbor life every year for the past ten years lol|1 Yeah I wish Typhoid Mary who was at my kids hair cutting place wore a mask This lady comes in coughing like crazy very bad full lung coughs too Coughing all over the sign in tablet and all in the air Even her voice sounded all messed up The hairstylist were giving her the most crazy look like WTF are you doing here as were all of us Seriously stay the fuck home your kids hair cutting can wait I dont care if she just had maybe the regular flu I dont want that shit either|0 What is mind numbing is that no one in that conference room stands up and straight punches the idiot right between the eyes|0 It isnt about kits specifically the scale we need is very large and they are trying to bring 100 of the major labs online that already test flu samples but 97 of those labs havent been able to produce reliable results yetSome are assuming other countries do have reliable test results evidence suggests otherwise and we are also assuming a bad test is better than no test evidence here also suggests otherwise Based on what little we know it is entirely possible the CDC is doing the right thing|0 I would rather a virus kill nobody honestly Lets not be so aggressive|0 I say that if something goes completly wrong partially because the goberment is not providing a service they are entitled too people would have enough sense of logic to demand that service|0 He is dead it has been confirmed by the hospital He died on 7th February|0 No Aspirin|0 I thought about this but then I wouldnt care about anyone knowing because well Im dead|0 Damn like how many people are working for the government I imagine that they had to shell out big bucks to hire that many people to storm the grocery stores to buy up everything|0 I have a reusable N99 face mask that I wear when I have to go inside but I usually just use the curbside service and they shop and load up my car for me But yes more and more people are wearing masks Where are you located Here in Texas it is low key awareness since there is not a confirmed case here yet|1 only 40 in the house voted against itthey should be shamed publicly but Trumps people had input on it and with that much R support in the House Id expect at least 55 Senators to support it Probably not many more thoughI was raised to be moderately conservative but pretty much every day for the last 5 years or so I drift further and further left Healthcare and social support services need to be completely overhauled in this country permanently I cant say I totally agree with Bernie on everything but hes probably the only candidate whos willing to actually try to do anything meaningful|1 Im not even comfortable with take out food Were still learning how its being spread and how long the virus lives on things Hard pass|0 It is possible that they might be outliers but more probably that such a patient acquired the virus later than supposed t0 It is a common phenomenon that the cases that have long incubation times in studies like that 24 days in a recent one are likely explainable that way but cant be just dismissed outright|1 We need to be talking about the hospitalisation rate now rather than the case fatality rate That is the real scary bit No health service in the world would be able to cope with it so indirectly even with a 1 CFR and WHO is still believe CFR is 34 it will still cause massive numbers of deaths that would have been avoidable with available medical care|0 If the US has a testing crisis does this mean we will also fall behind in clinical trials for treatmentsAnd if so should the DOH and CDC revise guidelines to allow for a clinical diagnosis like China did when they had a testing crisis|0 No it isnt I go to WGU and our proctors actually have us do a screen share with them as part of the monitoring as well as checking your running programs list before beginning the test Additionally they disqualify you from the exam if you have more than one monitor connected to your computer As for mirroring I think they might not have that butagain they check other programs being used I have to add 20 minutes to my schedule for every exam with all the checks they do Its just routine now|1 You guys just wait and see Because theres honestly nothing else you can do Everything Italy went through is what we Belgium are going through right now Lockdowns starting this midnight Any way Ive always known that the majority of people are morons It litteraly takes the government to react and the media to be all over to place before people start taking precautions and start taking this shit seriously They wont start doing anything up until the government says anything about it and by the time that happens you know its already too lateEven now in my country people laugh at you for wearing any kind of face mask having protection etc they just wont care even tho everything is already on lockdown I myself dont give a damn fuck about any of these morons and I wear whatever I have to My country also decided that since were going on lockdown why not hoard all stores and empty the racks while waiting hours in line in the midst of another 100 people WHO DEFINITELY DONT HAVE THIS DISEASE AMIRITE Morons fucking morons If youre one of those people youre an asshole NGL Just buy whatever you need for the week and give others a chance too No instead theyre already beating eachother up for that last pack of pasta I dont know about ur country and whats going on right now but believe me that here in Belgium it went from 0 to 100 in the matter of just 2 days Laugh with all thats going on because yes its ridiculous but please for ur own sake and if not that for ur familys sake do take this serious because IT WILL happen to u too|1 My allergies usually turn into sinus infections so Im fairly used to this LA just had cooler temp drop and rain all week so it was the perfect mix for getting a cold My fever keeps spiking up and down but hasnt gone over 100F and went back down to 99 just now I have some congestion too but I dont feel unusually bad Though most of what I think I may be feeling I think is just anxietynerves of thinking its something worse|1 My housemate made the very good point in the context of discussing how his grandparents with serious health conditions went for their usual Saturday night tipple regardless that old people are not on the internet to anywhere near the same degree as younger people Theres a big information gap at play here that means theyre simply not being exposed to the true gravity of the situation Its on us to try and tell them To pester them about it even Because if large numbers die itll be in part because health systems have failed in part because old people have been stubborn but also in no small part because young people have been careless in their attitudes and actions|0 According to the data so far available kids are not vulnerable populations to this virus On the contrary theyre the most invincible They either have a much greater resistance to infection or theyre just very unlikely to develop serious outcomes after the infectionAlso this isnt just a relative term In China there was only 1 fatality in the age group 019 by Feb 11 If we assume that happend in Wuhan and there are 26 million kids age 019 in Wuhan the crude mortality rate of COVID19 for kids in Wuhan was 0038100k populationSchool closures are not really meant for kids Elderly people who lives in the same house with those kids are vulnerable and the school closures could help them but it could also harm them because virus could develop more efficient transmission chain to those vulnerable elderly population as a result of the school closure|1 Shhh that makes to much sense USA DUMB FEAR FEAR|0 Its well known in Korea as a cult|1 Looks like its not a rumor to me Hes a passenger on the ship|1 Or are we being a bit over the top|1 Thats what they want|1 He is also a large investor in CureVac in Germany who develop vaccines for the 3rd world and are also trying to develop one for Corona He has been helping to develop vaccines for a long time|1 Apparently the old think theyre invincible too Everyone over about 40 in my town thinks its just the flu Hasnt stopped them from cleaning out the local stores but theyre still going out and socializing Were the crazy ones for staying inside and away from other people|0 If you can prove that its fake then all the better You would be helping the community if thats the case I encourage you to do it maybe warn others of the reliability of the source But please provide logical reason Dont make a claim at leave it at that All Im asking is for you to provide a reason|1 If the precautionary principle applies to anything it is a new deadly infectious disease with unknown properties There is one and only one good defense until it is understood quarantine of travelers from infected areas|1 People arent reading the guidelines They clearly state if a person is seriously ill but does not meet the criteria the state DOH can agree to allow testing|1 Those movies were based on American teens Guess no one really outgrow American teenagehood in America|0 No health card not free Most hospitals in Canada charge a flat rate emergency fee even for minor issues I can recall one time where it cost over 1200 to get a tetanus shot for one of my friends who was not Canadian after they accidently stepped on a rusty nail|0 I dont know if you noticed it but EU countries are not in the best position to help|0 Were social distancing to slow the rate of infection to prevent hospitals from becoming too overwhelmed Even with distancing the virus will have made its way to EVERY person it can longggg before 18 months I just read that with current infection rates that will only take 12 weeks|1 Just wanna point out that what Im saying isnt directly pointing at you more of just a general statementI dont like how everyone is acting so holy and being mad at GobertSure what he did was ignorant It was dumbBUT if you are still going out and eating and doing other unnecessary activities then thats no better than what he did When people go out what theyre essentially saying is that they are ignoring and discounting the risk of the coronavirus So while thats not as direct as what Gobert did unless youre staying quarantined apart from essential things then bitching about Gobert is hypocritical|0 People think theyll flood the hospitals Theyll actually just die in the street so they can keep doing drugs up to the end|0 This is why women arent flattered by offers of sex Men will fuck anything Htf do you feel proud fucking someone with a virus SMH|0 Help httpsairtablecomshrAlqsrvdAlUXIbZDid you look at the backend instructions httpstwittercomchrisdancystatus1239030470723219457s21Its working great fir us now|1 Well that was quite a jump|1 There are a hundreds of different factors that go into how an illness progresses in a person Just because one thing is a potentially factor doesnt make something else not a factor|0 Will be interesting to see what happens in places like college campuses which almost always have buffet style food lines|1 I think you missed my point Im talking about people who have not been paying their taxes The consequences of that decision will be missing out on this benefit Hardly seems unfair to me|0 Contact the new dedicated tollfree phone number if you are in quarantine and seeking to waive the oneweekEI sickness benefitswaiting period so you can be paid for the first week of your claimTelephone 18333812725 tollfree|1 You know what Im worried about What are the long term effects of getting this virus What will this do to the ones who recover Will it affect their offspring Hell how will most Americans even afford treatment or hospital stays I truly hope 6 months from now we can all look back and laugh at how silly and paranoid we all were but I fear this will be a totally different place in 6 months from now Normally Im a pretty standard glass half fulljust getting ready to tip over and spill at any second person but right now Im a level 5 code red all the glasses were full and have spilled and we only have cheap 1ply napkins to try and soak up this massive metaphorical BP oil spill of shit kind of person|0 So youre admonishing me while at the same time not doing anything to the guy actually advocating violence All I did was call him out Thats absurd|0 15 million cases I think you have your answer right there friend|1 Hell some of them literally think the Pope is the Antichrist|0 Fun fact if we had used that 15 trillion dollar liquid injection the markets received that still crashed extensively afterwards as UBI every PERSON not just adults in America could have received 4300 roughly Its not like its not possible|1 Many americans have no savings or refuse to hit their other assets so this not gonna work|0 Thank you for correcting|1 Sweden a country of 10m people has tested 3000 people in one week compared to the USs 1900 tests overall I dont buy any of those excuses Manpower New York City is lagging significantly behind ICELAND in testing|0 The thing the uk strategy is allowing for is the chance a vaccine is t available for a while Swine flu amazingly had a vaccine in 6 months So is the world planing on isolating till a vaccine turns up hopefully before summer finishes or do measures relax and infection rates go up again The uk is looking to keep its economy afloat and treating it like the bad cold it is The world is about to hit a big recession and the uk considers that more harmful|1 I feel the opposite I was scared this was going to be a huge pandemicNow Im more confident it wont be that bad where I am Mostly because it has gone out of control only in Hubei so farIm watching the numbers every day however|1 Thanks|1 If you dont know anyone pretty closely who is confirmed infected or been to a hotspot with confirmed community spread there is very little chance that you are infected What symptoms does your friend have|0 These stats are about the same as what we have here I think the quarantine is effective anyway|1 wait not sure how that has any bearing unless all those children of immigrants went overseas in the last 3 months|0 Go Vietnam Feeling good about staying here so far|1 I just dont want my work to think its ok to go back to normal after 15 days knowing everyone is pointing to a few months at min We are all working from home and Id like to stick that way until its pretty contained in Chicago When that will be who really knows|1 Yes sadly it is the case that most people would rather risk catching and dying from coronavirus than be seen in public wearing a mask Tragic really|0 The fact that this is only happening now and that the transmission was between two people who live together is a good sign The spread can be contained|1 Removed last names Is that sufficient Or do I need to change the first names as well They are all over the news|1 It has a negative death rate regular masturbation helps prevent prostate cancer|0 Correct We need to look at the ratio of resolved cases to deaths In other words the fatality rate divided by the discharge rate So if 100 patients die and 100 are discharged thats a 50 fatality rate|0 People panic buying preparing for selfisolation|0 China loses their number 1 trade partner and fucks over their economy and I doubt the Arab countries minus say Syria and Yemen and Somalia want a weakened US the Saudis definitely want a US presence to keep Iran away|0 He may very well have saved that servers life The server was probably completely and totally fucked in every way possible after learning that their place of work is shutting down indefinitely Broke no savings no job no health insurance no way of making money No server has medical insurance or paid time off and very few have any savings at all Many work 7 days a week from 10am to 1011pm with no off days just to make ends meet I know this because I did it for years before I had an opportunity to break out Its a hard and rough life but for many people its the only option that they have in the moment Unable to make enough money to get out unable to risk time and money by paying to get an education or learn a skill no time to get a second or third job Its an endless cycle and you just hope that one day youll catch a break and get an opportunity to get out of it so you work endlessly and do what you can to prepare and be ready to take advantage of the opportunity of it presents itself This pandemic is going to ruin peoples lives and those people may not even become infected at all|1 Since when Must have been right after winning the state of California|1 Because the WHO has been publishing the China data as the truth and they are smart enough to know the data says otherwiseThere was this paper in The Lancet that predicted 798K cases of infection in Wuhan as of January 25 2020 The official number for Wuhan on that date was 1287 could be worldwideOther evidence for a much larger number than accepted was the drastic shutdown measures that China took on the 23rd expanding quarantine from 11M in the city of Wuhan to 57M in Hubei Province|1 Gettin ready to get out of NYC right now Glad we have somewhere else to go|1 Hero|1 I agree That means you still feel safe Tho Im starting to feel that might change We dont want this to get worse It wont be exciting|0 I wish I was in Canada|1 Idk why but yeah thats right They denied the tests from the WHO but need to make their own So we have to wait two weeks|0 It doesnt warrant a full nucelar meltdown reaction because the fatality rate is only at something like 25 Unless you are immunocomprimised in which case you should take the virus very seriously|0 Its been proven not working in wuhan People with nomild symptoms should be tested and isolated Staying home will only infect family members who will go out and infect more people|0 Okay now apply that logic to every other group in every other part of the country that is in the exact same situation but gets left in the dark because fuck poor people|0 Yes something like thishttpopendatadpcmapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlb0c68bce2cce478eaac82fe38d4138b1|1 If youre on for medical reasons or any other acceptable reasons by your company then its 60Dont know why Im being downvoted Theres nothing to argue here|1 And that is why I am urging them to use it for a better understanding of seroprevalence I have prompted some lab directors to raise the question about serology tests in their next conference call|1 This is why I love Reddit Ive been reading threads for a good 6 months Ive bought dozens of books which have been quoted and shared hunted down articles and speeches and loved every minute of what Ive discovered and learned from a group of strangers Ill likely never meet but I have never left a comment until today Twitter and FB ruined it for me I saw someone responded to what I said and my stomach hit the ground I was prepared to be shredded but as Ive seen over and over there are open minded respectful and kind people here Thank you for that |1 Our leader is Trudeau and he is useless Stop all these infected people from Iran for the love of God|0 Good News seriously We are celebrating deaths now|1 Just wait for it in a week theyll say it was Trump spreading the virus all along Sad to use a disaster for which no country is ready for just political gain The hate is strong|0 Well Trump has massively cut funding to the CDC so in a way yes the government has impacted testing in the US|1 When CDC will hire people in the future add thisBenefitfull weekends guaranteed in the worst national crisis|0 Are you able to selfquarantine Thats one way to up your odds of survival considerably as well as your pets because neither of you would come in contact with others who are infectedKeep in mind that although this is a horrible and very contagious disease the chances of getting it are less than the likelihood of not getting it|0 Im interested to see if theres actually any literature on ACE2 expression throughout the body when using nicotine replacement therapies like transdermal patchesgum compared to traditional smoking|1 I know its different fields of expertise but after the hurricane the electric company I worked for brought back retirees in leadershipmanagement capacities These men and women performed to the best of their abilities and provided valuable Experience and expertise to the younger generations working to bring everything back onlinehopefully itll be something similar to that|1 Big difference is that you still have to pay premiums and deductibles The ACA created a marketplace where part of the premiums are paid by the government Youre assured decent insurance and its on a sliding scale supposedly low cost or free Sort of like an employer plan provided by the government And because private companies are now required to cover everyone they jacked up prices like crazy and started billing the government and individuals We are getting jacked both ways The original plan was that it would be modified and better funded but the Trump administration has been doing everything they can to make it more expensive less accessible and less effective They even refused to advertise enrollment even though the marketing campaign had already been paid for|1 Like they dont have enough going on Geez|1 I honestly read the hashtag as to get the rat home thought it was a play on stay the f home and could not for the life of me figure out what was happening|1 Funny because this appeared on my front page|1 I read a study that said under 20 of men wash their hands after using the bathroom and like 70 of women wash their hands after using the bathroomI was hoping theres like a 99 rate and even that is not good enough lol Im disgusted|0 International cases get top tier care|1 Is Tom Hanks getting infected poetic irony Fuck off and have some empathy|0 Theyre preparing lol|1 So stupid but okay|1 Where do you live if you dont mind me askingAlso not saying you are irresponsible at all But if there is not a legitimate reason you can not travel then Im afraid you dont really have a case Im heading to Tokyo next month and nothing Ive seen so far has indicated that there is a higher risk there than where I am UK|0 I wouldnt doubt it Honestly I dont think CDC has missed a beat We just assumed how this event would be handled Someone redirected the approach and its an entirely new game plan People wont like it and criticize them but end of day well either follow orders or deal with consequences Stop testing in a high spread area was a strategy call but people are pissed No idea what protocols fall after what we already know but Im sure testing was rerouted and delayed for specific reasonsIm not saying its a good strategy or maybe they do suck at their job Idk|0 Wouldnt that be better suited for another sub Some anecdotal account of someones subjective idea of what or what not COVID19 is and how they experienced it seems to have limited scientific valueAnd whether the virus enters into a dormant phase after a while will certainly not be answered by a COVID19 survivor A virologist might be able to answer that in a couple of months maybe|1 so whatits not enough people are going to die even if you are better than others|0 Good News Core of earth seems naturally resistant to virus|1 I have a days training tomorrow itll be interesting to see whether they take action to cancel that I guess different departments have different thresholds as well I work for a department that could shut down tomorrow with very little large negative effect obvious for quite a length of time|0 Yep very |1 Daily amber alert have been going on since end of January Good move|1 That the head of the WHO is blinded by Chinese government to see the truth of what is happening with the epidemic|1 Saw those articles and ran out and got children and infant tylenol plus some adult I know the article was far from conclusive but its not like I am not going to eventually use it either way|0 Knew it tons of countries have been doing that shit|0 Unfortunately my family isnt concerned except for the ones that live with me My mom tried to talk to my 74 yo aunt today about stocking up on her prescription medications and she responded for what and rolled her eyes I told mom not to bother|0 Thank you This deserves more attention |1 Its not like the Chinese government wouldnt benefit from doing those things under the guise of Hong Kong protesters|0 I was so surprised when they said general public has no use wearing a mask but every fucking medical worker and official guard is fucking wearing a simple nonN95 mask I mean why do THEY wear it if its fucking useless for me|0 US And Im on the west coast so theres def some bias in what I see because were closer to China When I was working out East our customers didnt seem as directly dependent on China|0 I read an article posted in this sub earlier today that said around 20 Strangely enough I cannot find that article again it seems to have been removed I dont remember the title exactly exept that it said theres plenty of visualizations and sources|0 The contact tracing for these cases are going to be horrendous|0 Because the most vulnerable stay at home and people under 50 yrs old underestimate the virus|0 What are you talking about The study concluded that they are 80 effective and that surgical masks are almost just as effective as n95 respirators It didnt study handwashing so no the study doesnt show that|1 I think pharmacies are moving things like this behind the counter now I dont know why they let stock drop to zero before they thought oh wait the diabetics might have needed those|1 offered in available government loansThey will get the money back Its not a stimulus I wish people would stop with that nonsense|0 Np|1 Stay safe |1 Meh I dont really believe that they ACTUALLY peaked at 150 a day Say what you will about their response but a dictatorship isnt the best source of data|0 According to the World Health Organization 90 of people infected with the virus that causes COVID19 in China developed a fever 68 developed a dry cough 38 reported fatigue about a third of patients were coughing up sputum or phlegm About 1 in 5 developed shortness of breath You can read the full report herehttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf Brenda|0 Just buy uv sanitizers for a fish tank or something I have a 15w I use in my well water holding tank One time I turned it on in my hand and it smelled like burnt hair |1 The US has less than one million inpatient acute care beds You read that right Source American Hospital AssociationhttpswwwahaorgstatisticsfastfactsushospitalsWhat will happen is cots in gymnasiumsNext if 50m Americans get COVID in the next several months which is not impossible short of Wuhan scale quarantine then 5m will require hospitalization Setting aside we dont have the facilities this will bankrupt the private insurance world Goodby private healthcare model its toast Even the reinsurance world will collapse|0 Yes|1 Well now we know why first world countries that can contain virus should have allowed that ship to dock Shame on us that Cambodia was only nation of compassion|1 Who said shes infected Did she meet the criteria for testing Had she been to one of the affected areas in the last few weeks or has she been in direct contact with someone who as been confirmed as infected FOI Request would be very useful at this time but I would want to be accused of being delusional bordering paranoidI would not be staying with my mother if I was confirmed it just doesnt add up but thanks for the advice I dont think Ill be taking it Keep safe and thank you everyone else for this sub I have been here from very early on and it has been a great source of verified information|1 First Singapore Math and now this They must be good at everything On the other hand everyone is partying hard here in South Padre Island Spring Break baby|1 Not to mention I doubt banks will have enough people working to process hundreds of thousands of foreclosures Courts wont be open either On top of that who will purchase the houses The government is not going to want millions of homeless people to take care of and people are not going to play nicely when they are forced out of their homes to be infected The US will burn itself to the ground before that happens|0 Hm yeah I do see your point 2 however was me saying that even if it remains the same so best case scenario possibly I guess well not know until people start getting better Hard to predict the outcome of an illness that takes so long to recover from|1 Partial sarcasm partial realistic analysis|0 I live in my moms basement and I resent that comment|0 Schools are canceled for two weeks Churchs are canceled we arent supposed to meet in groups of 100 or more or 20 or more if we are over 60 stores have closed early today because they are out of food and there is no toilet paper Also for some reason it snowed today|0 Thank you appreaciate your reply and post|1 Itll be a domino effect Countries dont want markets to react to the situation because it would mess up the entire profit making system of exploitation and infinite growth Theyre praying china is sturdy enough to recover from it but i suspect china will eventually crack under pressure Once again all about money|0 Interesting thank you|1 This isnt even addressing our lack of preparation on the medical end which is obviously important we could have switched manufacturing or increased current capacity for needed supplies like masks or even papr god forbid we actually consider this necessary|1 Sorry you cut the truck in half As in reduced supplies|0 This is making me get all teary eyed Weve given them every reason to not help us and they are showing up anyway I seriously hope our government remembers this kindness|1 The HSE is probably going to be heavily overworked if covid19 becomes rampant in Ireland theyre already having a hard time at the moment with beds God love them when theres over a thousand patients|1 Yeah I get you Im on the same boat|1 I agree Until now Did you read the article|1 I feel like you started paying attention yesterdayIt is impossible to know about the spread when most have no symptoms those that do match other issues and nobody is being tested Finding 9 sick from the 6000 tests that did manage tells us that more are out there not getting tested quarantined or anything else They are spreading this to more and more people and giving a test that only half ass works to a select few people gives you literally no meaningful information past oh shitI want you to understand that everything the people here were saying would happen in a month a month ago already happened It has surpassed what many of us were called idiots for predicting by MILES And nobody gives a shit still Wuhan started with 1 person a good while ago There are potentially dozens of those beginnings spread across the world where nobody is being checked because they arent checking much of anyone You have no way to know and 1 or 1 million more tests wouldnt give you a full answerWe let infected people roam around quarantined people fly on planes arent testing and literally every health organization is sounding alarm bells code red pay attention people What more do you need|0 I went shopping for my family today both parents 60 and I was kinda stunned by the sheer number of elderly people doing their own shopping I know we talk about Instacart and online grocery shopping but I suspect that many of the elderly 1 dont know how to use Instacart or 2 find the prices there a little outside of their comfort zone I was also stunned by the number of elderly workers who tried to help ME because they thought I was underage If theres a good way to help Im totally down for it The one thing that comes to mind right now is making sure that the emergency UBI bill passes so that minimum wage workers who are the unsung heroes can protect themselves the elderly workers can stay home the gig workers dont end up homeless and the elderly population in general have enough funds to spring for Instacart|1 Fair|1 Wtf |0 I mean intentionally infecting someone with Corona virus is damn close At least considered attempted manslaughter If someone tore off your only line of defense and told you they were gonna infect you with a leathal virus I think youd overreact too Tensions are high out there over this|0 yes Everything is for free|1 What about Philly I hope they dont shut down my school But they kinda will have to no|1 Some pregnant woman came out OK a 1 week old baby caught it and survived I believe around 2 percent of the people confirmed in China to contracted the virus were under the age of 9 or 19 I forgot which one If they do catch it apparently they mainly develop a ridiculously shortlasting fever I think VOX recently put up 9 statistical charts on their website concerning the virus Goodluck|1 You can pull and lever and save one person but kill 5 or you can leave it and save 5 but one person dies Which do you pickPut another way you can bring 250 people home and risk 35000000 people or you can risk 250 and ensure the 350000000 are safer|1 My comment was one of a mocking tone Im tired of seeing people comparing this to the flu We have vaccines for the flu we have antibodies for the flu we have enough knowledge of influenza to realize the R0 isnt nearly as high we know flu doesnt spread asymptomatically edit Still I see this one every day|0 Why would he be scared when this growth is exactly what is expected Its a pandemic of course numbers are going to grow exponentially We will be in the hundreds of thousands very shortly None of this is a surprise to anyone knowledgeable|1 Idk man I foundthishttpsforeignpolicycom20200129coronaviruschinalabmortalityvirologywuhanvirusnotbioweapon in web Just thought I would share I dont think thisarticle is true|1 Well she had had a full life|1 Holy fuck man Stay safe I have already begun relying on you guys|0 This is insanity And a good way of getting countries to ban travel to your country|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfemfjkmasksarelikevaccinestheyarenot100fjq3ouocontext3 was automatically removed because it linked to a website that is especially unreliable and that may promote disinformationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Lol 20 and under there was one death But babies are really damn unlikely Dont worry about your baby worry about yourself You dying would be way more devastating to the baby than the baby getting Corona Take care of yourself and realize that kids can have Corona with barely any symptoms which would make them good spreaders Stress kills Dont panic about things that dont require panicking And maybe avoid grandparent visits|0 Celebrities without symptoms are getting tested while average people with obvious symptoms cant Maybe Im overlycynical but its hard to trust our system to prioritize doing whats right over whats profitableI do hope youre right and Im wrong though|1 Every one of these motherfuckers could be wearing a cloth mask right now if the CDC and WHO were recommending them I fucking hate their antimask response|0 Lol|1 Theres a wide disparity between confirmed cases and predicted or socalled true cases This is an inevitability for many diseases and especially ones like nCoV which have a wide variability in case severityBasically this doesnt differ from the Bayesian prior yet|1 Whose guilt tripping youngsters proceeds to imply that young people are beating grandma up for the last package of hamburger buns|0 worst president yet he still won nearly unanimously for the electoral college He was a genuine president that everyone loved except for the few flaming liberals|1 I thought the sarcasm was exceptionally thick here I may be alone in that though|0 Money If anyone has a chance to survive its the rich|1 Problem is people choosing profits over ethics Who cares if child labor and coal was used to make the component you need for your product when its half the price of one without these issues|1 I think those are empty body bags|0 Its ironic If they would have just let them all off the ship 14 days ago with no quarantine they may have actually done LESS damage than theyre about to do Maybe they would have only sent out a few infected people into the worldAll they may have accomplished with this quarantine is to concentrate and grow the virus into a larger threat before they release them |0 May The Hunger Games begin|0 I agree with him people are acting ignorant and just going about life as usual like nothing is happening|1 No if you take HIV meds you cant infect other people With disclosure laws and criminalization people just didnt get the medicine It actually worsened community spread and spreads HIV more Its not about what looks right to do on paper its about what actually produces results|0 suggesting people to stay at home never works No one care about suggestions from a governmental agency To get people to listen they need to state in an unambivalent manner that if they dont limit where they are going they will be begging for hospital beds later|1 The first rule of the sub No memes|0 Sure But how soon we get it matters because of hospital capacity Containment is about slowing it down The virus will be with us for a long time|1 httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenpreliminaryinseasonestimateshtmhttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenpreliminaryinseasonestimateshtm The estimated for 20192020 flu season was between 16000 and 41000 deaths in the US alone|0 It is Coronaviruses are capable of causing common cold symptoms and they cause 15 of flu casesNasal congestion occurs in 48 of COVID patients httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf based on 55924 laboratory confirmed cases typical signs and symptomsincludefever 879 dry cough 677 fatigue 381 sputum production 334 shortness of breath 186 sore throat 139 headache 136 myalgiaor arthralgia 148 chills114 nausea or vomiting 50 nasal congestion 48 diarrhea 37 and hemoptysis 09 and conjunctival congestion 08|0 Yeah Im being cynical because Im definitely getting let the disease run its course vibes in the states California schools need 5 confirmed cases to be closed downSucks because the infrastructure exists to take every school in the country online tomorrow and instead were just going to sit around until its too late|1 Its not However you cant discount that Chinas initial handling of this was as bad as any other countries They knew of the virus from multiple doctors discussing with each other the rise of a concerning new virus in Wuhan And instead of investigating these claims China arrested those doctors and forced them to retract their statements thus ensuring the virus was given ample opportunity to spread The only reason they were so effective at shutting it down is because personal freedom does not exist in China and thus the government was able implement extreme measures fast|1 Englishbased creole languageAn Englishbased creole language often shortened to English creole is a creole language for which English was the lexifier meaning that at the time of its formation the vocabulary of English served as the basis for the majority of the creoles lexicon Most English creoles were formed in British colonies following the great expansion of British naval military power and trade in the 17th 18th and 19th centuries The main categories of Englishbased creoles are Atlantic the Americas and Africa and Pacific Asia and Oceania PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Hospital acquired infections are a massive cause of death and illness so stopping nCov spreading within hospitals has to be a priority|0 See this link httpswwwkuoworgstoriesansweringyourquestionsonthecoronavirushttpswwwkuoworgstoriesansweringyourquestionsonthecoronavirus showing a person that arrived in a vehicle that read Specialized Medical Services lifts oxygen concentrator medical devices out of the back of the vehicle before bringing them to Life Care Center of Kirkland employees who were waiting outside of the facility on Monday March 2 2020 in Kirkland Seems like a great idea to me|1 Thanks Obama Oh wait|1 Ive been listening and respecting Dr Drew for 20 years since Loveline was on the radio I have completely lost all trust and faith in him over his reaction to this virus It is absolutely abhorrent that someone who proclaims they were so prescient and on top of the AIDSHIV outbreak in the 80s literally why Loveline was created to help educate kids about the risks is dropping the ball this badly|1 Lol I actually think its straightup incompetence|0 No I just grabbed the first one to confirm it was Phillip not Charles not to confirm the info I should have searched deeper cause I KNEW someone was gonna say something about that|0 Im right there with you So what if people die Wont anybody think of the shareholders|0 I really doubt that they only got 2000 kits per dayI mean the last few days they always reported over 2000 confirmed casesI even hardly believe that there was a shortage at allSome western media claimed that Wuhan had over 50k test kits available even before they started producing Back then there were only about 1k confirmed casesMaybe they didnt have enough personnel but I really doubt that they didnt have enough test kitsThe death bodies on ther other hand Well I mean its not hard to believe that a disease like would cause many deaths even if the fatality rate is low which we dont know for sureI mean its possible that a lot more people were infected etc And Wuhan has 11million people so even with 2 fatality rate this would be disastrous|0 Im in the same boat had a high risk coworker whos been claiming this whole thing is just a media scare and that its way overblown Told him there was 15 confirmed cases in our area and he was shocked Didnt Change his beliefs though|0 I will be messaging you in 40 years on 20600215 162703 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi206002152016270320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf3tr10amaselfisolatinginukreturningfromoneoffhp84hucontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ff3tr102Famaselfisolatinginukreturningfromoneof2Ffhp84hu2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202060021520163A273A0320UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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sounds a bit uppity Im far from rich and I have a lady who cleans my house I canceled our appts but Im still paying her biweekly fee Im stuck inside anyway may as well give myself something to do Since ive already budgeted for it its not a big deal to continue paying her|1 Good|1 So what about the serious casesIn your breakdown you are either OK or you are critical with 25 of not making itAccording to the 44K stats from China81 mild15 serious 5 critical|0 I feel like the only reason they were saying masks were ineffective was due to people hoarding the ever living fuck out of them I understand the need to save them for healthcare professionals and people really only think about themselves in cases like this|1 As an American I would like to apologize for my government If it were up to citizens things would be a lot different|1 Ive wondered about grocery store employees and grocery delivery drivers while reading the news Im so sorry that no one seems to be looking out for your safety|0 Aches are a rare symptom of coronavirus Much more typical of the flu|0 So well likely have another 3 or 4 DP deathsNot that you can draw too many conclusions for the general population given the sample size|1 Ive been repeating the same arguments as OP for days in reference to ifwhen we start seeing sustained transmission in the US Many people wont seek treatment until things get severe many will go to work particularly food service employees who depend on tips and all the hours they can get Many will unwittingly spread the virus for weeks before they seek treatment or recover on their own|0 Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist Everything we do after a pandemic will seem inadequate This is the dilemma we face but it should not stop us from doing what we can to prepare We need to reach out to everyone with words that inform but not inflame We need to encourage everyone to prepare but not panic Michael O Leavitt 2007|1 Not as of 1st Feb for new visas or those in transit Citizens of sg from China have to go on leave of absence for 2 weeksEta Penalties for those who skirt the LOAhttpswwwstraitstimescomsingaporethosefloutingleaveofabsencerulesfaceaction|0 Agreed They need to step this up Whats taking so long|1 Shit thats exactly what I do too|0 You have a pretty much normal lifespan with HIV if you take your meds So no COVID19 is far worse than HIV|0 No testing no cases|0 The communist party members include regular everyday folks There are millions and millions in China who had to go through applications and are basically exemplary but otherwise normal citizens My cousin is one for example shes a registered nurse volunteered and worked very hard in her community to get it Theres an app where you can order Uber drivers who are only party members So its not the same as saying Im gonna replace the frontline with only Republican party members|1 Yes but the lancet study showed many cases of mild symptoms followed by severe and deadly symptoms 10 days later Why arent Western governments up to date|0 China fudge literally everything so not sure if thats believable or notWhy the shills|0 This is Awesome|1 In Italy Crazy madness on TV Radio Whats on facebook|0 This is exactly how the uninformed spread COVID19 while making a community or a state in this case believe its totally safe to be around tons of peopleNot Smart At All Epic Fail|1 Since I dont know you and you didnt use the sarcasm symbol I have to ask sarcasm Im hoping|1 Be safe out there|1 Ah Well its always provider discretion and I know a lot of the ones Ive worked for dont test in the summer just like flu shots arent given flu or no flu Im sure you were miserable|0 Please do Im doing soft documentation of these kinds of posts|1 Great|1 Yep|1 And how about other peoples moms Dads Grandmoms Granddadsx200BWhat is with the detached apathy It doesnt make you look cool|0 That was peoples houses they trapped them At the time it wasnt clear if they were even getting food and this was after a million other things the CCP did wrong|0 Lisinopril definitely blocks ACE II production my dude Its literally called ACE inhibitor|1 My bad so everythings fine Keep on walking s|0 Says that here Casani also suggests the mortality rate might be higher than average because Italy is testing only the critical cases We are not doing enough he said httpstimecom5799586italycoronavirusoutbreakhttpstimecom5799586italycoronavirusoutbreak|0 Yes|1 And thats the problem and why their numbers are continuing to grow|0 Even if you get testing sorted do you have 1000 to pay for each test|0 Not reallyThe idea of a staterun basic Income dates back to the early 16th century when SirThomas MoresUtopiadepicted a society in which every person receives a guaranteed incomeIn the late 18th centuryEnglish radicalThomas SpenceandAmerican revolutionaryThomas Paineboth declared their support for a welfare system that guaranteed all citizens a certain income|1 Theres no amount of gratitude that I could put in to words to thank you and your wife and fellow coworkers for the services you provide youre all unsung heroes Stay safe and best of luck|1 The smarts of the Irish|1 Poor people should stop bitching and take the opportunities they are given|0 If the government does whay it can to stop covid19 Covid19 will kill loads of peopleif the government does nothing then the government will kill loads of people|0 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca reduced by 96 Im a bot In the Comunidad de Madrid region with 600 official cases and 17 deaths the true number of cases is likely between 10000 and 60000 The two ways you can calculate the fatality rate is DeathsTotal Cases and DeathClosed Cases South Korea is the most interesting example because these 2 numbers are completely disconnected deaths total cases is only 06 but deaths closed cases is a whopping 48 My take on it is that the country is just extremely cautious they039re testing everybody and leaving the cases open for longerExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsfiae4pcoronaviruswhyyoumustactnow FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 476019 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords case1 country2 death3 rate4 company5|1 This is just negative bot trash Sorry but Canada is just fine We already did scary infectious disease with SARS We have experience and we have built on what we learned A fanatastic free universal health care system run by Canadian medical heroes Take your fear mongering somewhere else|1 Confirmed This post was at 50 when I saw it I upvoted Refreshed 57 upvotes Refreshed again 54 Refreshed again 53 Im sure its not the case that in the space of 1 minute 7 people thought you were cool 3 thought you were an asshole then one of the former changed hisher mind|1 No it absolutely isnt a smart move its a dick move That is all it is You are just going to take food away from doctors and nurses Who dont have time to stand in the grocery shop in the morning All you are doing is fucking the people who will save your life in the ass Nothing more nothing less Doctors have to do their job on an empty stomach saving your stupid ass Food will keep coming and nothing will happen|0 Im pregnant now due April Pretty much an awful feeling|1 I mean its reasonable to consider how this affects the stock market and economy because even after the peak of the outbreak well be reeling from shuttered industries bankrupt companies lost jobs people may lose their houses etc|0 If opposite was true you should be shocked there is AFAIK no WHO member which would also not have the same status in the UN General Assembly Taiwan lost their UN seat and is not even a UNGA observer like for instance State of PalestinehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiStateofPalestine WHO is a nonpolitical organization so it makes sense that they align their independence recognition based on the opinion of the United Nations on the matter If Taiwan wants to be recognized they have to play the game there Or do you think The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus should also get a WHO member statusDont get me wrong I am all for Taiwan independence but getting onto the WHO and then using it as an argument to get onto the UNGA is not the right way to go about it|0 Finally a billionaire not being a complete dick|1 Its a huge entertainmenttech industry event with 400000 visitors 100000 of which come from out of the US It started out as a music event with a focus on the music industry finding new acts but branched out over time to cover all sorts of other media and the tech world as well The traditional sxsw schedule is to cram into convention halls and keynotes and special events during the day to network then go out and then drunkenly cram into bars or more special events at night Its a social distancing nightmare|1 But still what does the typical nurse have to do with the ridiculous cost of healthcare|0 I really dont understand the logic of not doing anything and just carrying on as normal Be fucking proactive for once|1 Hopefully many of them have significant others who are home with the kids|1 Also they probably dont want the government to offer the test free and have private labs run it instead Money in it for everyone|1 I have some pretty crazy people in my family Not saying Id like to see them starve just saying I dont have confidence theyd react in the most stable way in an emergency and Id like to keep my distance|0 Good try|1 Let me tell you folks this is a hoax but the virus is real and is going to kill people trump is doing great job at battling the globalists by getting ahead of this thing and you can too I dont like making money off a crisis but you need this super silver to bounce on your boys dick while Hilary is screaming kill them all behind bars like the she demon hell spawn of Satan she is known to beDont take my word for it this the main stream media reporting this|0 Didnt say soBut if your parentsbrotherschildren die you wont be this cool about it Unless you are a narcissistic assholeThis still has the potential to affect millions|0 Its absolutely relevant here It implies that Taiwan is part of the PRC just like Hong Kong and Macau are which is false and could be seen as spreading misinformation China has absolutely zero authority over Taiwan and each government is completely independent of each other When they are listed like this the assumption one could make is that the Chinese government can represent the Taiwanese people and government which they absolutely cannotI am wondering if uF16KILLER might at least be able to provide some insight on why they are taking this position Ive seen multiple people ask on Twitter without a response from the organization|1 Just telling my storie I got 14 day quarantine because og my last trip 14 days from arrival I tried to get a test because of other issues but i also had many symptoms that covid19 and normal flu has|0 F1 is all about money Theres no way theyll issue refunds to those that have already paid|0 But did you read it though Its about staying home when it is your choice ie not going to concerts sporting events etc It says if you can work from home do but if you cant there are other things you can do instead This has nothing to do with privilege|1 No shit man its been a real long dayI think that after were done flattening the curve of this fuckin virus we SORELY need to flatten the curve of income inequality All the money is going to rich people The fed dumped a bunch of cash into the fucking MARKET before they even THOUGHT about helping people in need Its evil|0 Ive seen some saying he cant be blamed for a virus spreading across the globe Theyre definitely making excuses for his malicious incompetence|1 Suspect it is the Teachers Union If people realize that the kids can learn from home there goes thousands of teachers principles and school staff I maybe wrong but dont schools get state and federal funding on attendance|0 First Trump says its a Democrat hoax now its worse than the flu This administration sucks|0 Youve been saying that a lot judging by past comments Ive seen of yours Truth be told I think its somewhere in the middle between your its not that serious crowd and the the world is ending crowd It has the potential to be very serious for parts of Asia|1 Ugh Im a student in CMS that was so fucking dumb|0 I asked my HR departments Benefits Specialist whats the max Im responsible for if I were to say get hit n run by a car when minding my own business on Dec 24 and wake up in an out of network ICU mid JanuaryTheyve already talked about how they know the 5 people that use more than 75 of annual expenditure from our insurance company is selfinsured so I didnt want to get into my concerns about autoimmune or any other issue Im facingyou cant worry about things that are out of your control or havnet happened yetCoincidentally things that are out of your control or havent happened yet are literally why insurance exists but hey dont worry about it|1 Youre right that there is a spike in nonCOVID cases going for testing which accounts for most of this trend However going for a test does not mean you just infected an entire emergency room PS If anyone believes they may be infected call your provinces health service line for a phone assessment before going to an ER Wash your hands and encourage others to do so as well|0 People People Calm the fuck down This report is coming from a new account whose only other comment was about UFOs and government conspiracies Stop buying into rumors so easily Demand sources|0 My anxiety level has been really high the past few weeks seeing it coming and unable to stop it or really get anyone to pay attention and especially with work planning out a yearlong global project when you know the schedule will NEVER happen with what is coming upIm starting to get a bit numb to it which may make the upcoming weeks a little easier|0 Haha yeah The Last of Us|1 Then watch as people hoarde and price gouge all the materials needed to make those here Shit touched my face|0 Nice|1 Yep|1 How much do you spend on weed every monthEdit Source poor loser|0 But this coronavirus is much more closely related to SARS than MERS And its almost certain that warm weather was instrumental in SARS epidemic ending|1 can we jail those who claim wuhanvirus is nothing but flu |1 My dad would tell us that we must eat our oranges He would get so mad when we would try to defy him on it We had to eat so many growing uphe firmly believed that was what kept him from dying during the Spanish Flu outbreak All I can say is that all 5 of his brothers survived it too Vitamin C keeps your immunity strong EmergentC is 1000 mg large dose I now drink 1 in am 1 in pm|1 I suspect some of that info might change as health intelligence officers investigate and trace in the years to come if theyre ever allowed to in China especially superspreader events like SARS transmissions that are suspected to have been transmitted via the air and plumbing systems of buildings Ref httpsharvardmagazinecom200703thesarsscarehtml|1 Well I dont think they shut down food services because they ran out or thought it was contaminatedThe logistics of feeding an entire ship safely must be complicatedThey could easily accommodate a single person at a time but to ensure theres no contamination from package to mouth for the whole ship is not easy|1 Im not sure where youre getting that its not spreading|0 1 If that was the case wed have no plan All western governments are sitting on their hands Theres no need for anyone to be a hero We are all responsible too No need to be nannied by the state like some people are acting2 This is no small flu Pneumonia induced symptoms is no joke if you get it bad Stay safe|0 Flip the canister over occasionally to thoroughly saturate the wipesAnd dont use one wipe to cover too much surface area You want everything to be pretty damp so the liquid stays in contact with the surface before it evaporates|1 23 weeks from now at best|1 Correct me if Im wrong but that means there is roughly less than a 1 in 2000 chance of being admitted to the ICU if youre under 50 years old Going off of 6000 people Or about 2 chance if it was only 1135 cases Your comment should be up higherIt goes without saying this is still dire since us younger folk have older folk we care about in our lives|1 I meant the missile I was joking of course|1 lol what|1 Thats the beautiful thing about viruses bacteria and pandemics They dont give a crap if youre a racist rich narcissistic jerk or not No upper class privileged in this mess other than reactive healthcare measures|1 Its mixed around meIm selfisolating but I do that anyway since I WFH Business is way down but Im still selling workI told the kids I was going to stay home for a while and jumped up and down with joy secretly One son said nothing but brought home a few weeks of provisions several days laterAnother son said the risks were probably overblown Im over 60 hes 30ish Gosh I wish you were right Son COVID19 is going to kick ass and take namesMy social group is taking it seriously cant say about my neighbors No more open mic night no more shows no more parties I am jamming with one other friend trying to get an old Strat working again but hes a hermit like meIn a way I love the freedom of knowing I can work on the long overdue chores on my dismal property On the other hand i keep laughing like a kid because I wonder if Mother Nature and the pangolins didnt just get together to balance out all the dumbfuckery in the world Because its the redneckKaren dumbfucks wholl be laughing then wheezing all the way to the hospitalYall ownin them libs now BabyThen again I am aware of my own high risk of death if Im exposed The shitty response of my government may kill tens of thousands including me If I die I promise to come back and haunt all the lizard people Until then Im cleaning up the shanty and laughing at the prideful who think their Trump bumper stickers will protect them from the upcoming shitstorm of death|1 If its so concerning how about Senator Bluementhal tells us what was saidI hate when politicians do this sht Doesnt matter whether R or D|0 Its the perfect opportunity that many have been waiting for|1 The people who are laughing it off will be the same assholes who are buying truckloads of toilet paper and hand sanitizer in about 2 weeks time Exact same thing happened in the UK and with the population densities of places like New York and LA it will ten times worse|1 How is that stopping transmission Who cares if you want outstay home peoplereally This isnt a vacation its a frapping pandemic|1 Vaginalfrontal sex is the most common method of HIV transmission worldwide Like I said it was interesting your mind went to anal sex Have a nice day doing whatever you are doing|1 Yeah treating this outbreak as a serious pandemic to stifle the number of deaths what is this Common sense or something|1 no testing|0 Better headline Oligarchs taking control of what should be the job of the government elected by the people|1 China doing a decent job of showing why its a bad idea to suppress information during a pandemic|0 I dont know why you got downvoted it seems pretty obvious you meant they referring to the government I think most governments probably wish they could have control of their population the way North Korea doesEdit when I typed this the parent comment was at 3|1 Nope hes entitled cant get it|0 At least in NY Unemployment should include the amount you made in tips in the unemployment calculation as long as you claimed all your tips|0 Yes|1 The problem is not the govern is the people that dont follow the conditions of the quarantine|0 Did you have to send in an NOI My kids will not be going to school tomorrow I am mailing in my NOI and also sending an email to their teachers and principal I am heartbroken for them as we live their school but we have to play it safe|1 Yes we did Phillys death toll was awful|0 oh god its coming for us isnt it|1 Everything else seems to be futile at this point Of course maybe they dont wash their hands enough there|0 I wear a lot of makeup and it keeps me from touching my face for fear of messing it up mostly|0 Will not be required They are all washing their hands whilst singing happy birthdaythe ultimate deterrent|1 Ive seen the swine flu the bird flu and the Ebola virus all in the span of 15 years This one is no different Stop Creating Hysteria|0 most probably from dollar billsbetter to use credit or debit from now ondont use cash|1 Turn the tv off Canada I want to wake up from this nightmare|1 They just updated the tested number to 94 as of Friday morning The positive number still ready 33 as of Thursday night|1 How many of us can spend the next 69 months at home without going outside Hell my parents are in early 70 they know all the dangers but the prospect of not going outside and not seeing their childrengrandchildren terrifies them as much as the virus|0 Holy shit a few weeks ago I had all these symptoms for like 3ish weeks and theyre finally clearing up|0 If anyone wants to see the original article its archived here httpscdncucreducgibincdncaddRBDN19181217223een201txttxIN1httpscdncucreducgibincdncaddRBDN19181217223een201txttxIN1|1 Yeah that was my first thought as well How many people are eager to book a cruise right now Voluntarily|1 This gives me hope that he will follow the advice of experts and not put profit before safety However it must be said that sports teams are responsible for gathering 50k people once or twice a week across both regional and national boundaries He is the primary spokesman for the club and it is the clubs responsibility to manage these gatherings safely in the light of rapidly changing circumstances so I dont think the question is unreasonable|1 6 early cases in Houston were also from the cruise Interesting that the confirmed cases from that ship is more than total number in Egypt You guess|1 I wonder how many pissed off calls he got from his insurance company donors after the speech|0 Why would anyone riot|0 But states are the governmentI get that we need the feds to pick up the pace but the fact that state governments are actually taking this seriously and moving quickly isnt some bug its hows its supposed to work The only broken part here is the federal government|0 at least now they dont have to worry about deathrow|1 Good luck with this Putin there is a huge difference in Chinese and Russian culture Chinese people really are socialized to think of the good of the group and Russians are all about look out for number one|1 Waste of money|0 Thats what I thought about the ski resorts Ski resorts nation wide were just shit down last night And we just got a 3 foot snow storm too |0 The fact that the update is so late really doesnt indicate low numbers thats for sure|1 Nah max traveling and mutations and then just watch virus is by far the easiest one to win with|1 I feel like I need a ELI5 here How exacly does this work|1 To be fair internet isnt really to blame here Im austrian thats what the chancellor said in the morning This clarification came in about an hour ago but the confusion was already done Not to mention that this would have been affected a huge number of people leaving them in the dark for several hours|1 My coworker who teased me for two months and is a caregiver for her very elderly mother is desperate for toilet paper so shes been to multiple stores I am sitting calmly sanitizing my hands as she asks me if Home Depot might have it Gee I dont know but I think toilet paper has been gone for a weekShe asked if I prepared I told her no This really confuses her In fact I bought on sale about 40 rolls I have 2 jugs of hand sanitizer She is dumbfounded that I am not panicking I have a solid 2 months of everything then its rice and beans I could stretch everything much longerThis is why you prep We not only figured out the food situation but work and bills Its going to suck but we will survive Our container garden of fresh veggies has sprouted and is growing nicely Wait till these folk figure out the migrants pick most of our produceDont stop prepping Make sure you are planning on this lasting longer or the economiuc collapse and job situation means you have no money|0 Im upset about that too|0 More like 002 80000 Americans died last year from it Approximately 360000000 Americans Covid19 is at least two orders of magnitude more deadly|0 Hes actually a good president and did a lot more than most of the ones before him You just nitpick at every little thing that has nothing to do with policy Keep crying|0 Ive just finished my quarantine period Returned from China 15 days ago No symptoms for me or my gf Both of our workplaces said we should work from home for the duration so that was goodSame situation for me regarding deliveries Just do it online ask them to pop it outside the door then pick up after they leave It couldnt be easier to self isolated than these daysFor garbage I say just double bag everything and leave it somewhere in your house You really wont accumulate that much in 2 weeks that it will be a problem Triple bag if the smell is escaping Put garbage in a black bag not 100 full Make a neck and tie it there not at the top Then putnit upside down in a second bag and do the same Smell should not escapeIt was much easier than I expected it to be but man was it great to get some fresh air today Good luck |1 Im sure the federal government will be willing to help as soon as some sealed state indictments are dropped|1 Fuck I just realized China and Italy could emerge in a huge way after peaks spread has passed and dominate markets Time to invest|0 It literally says Best Guess Epidemiology|1 Doubt in any significant volume compared to establish supply line|0 Heres what the CDC says If it is absolutely necessary for you to leave your home while symptomatic limit your time away and avoid public places whenever possible If public places are not avoidable wait until the evening or until the area is typically less trafficked If you attempt to make contact with Ruth Bader Ginsburg you will be instantaneously executed by hidden snipers placed every 100 yards throughout the Continental US There will be no warning|0 You mean when the message from the federal government was that the virus was contained spread would be limited and that worries over it were a hoax|0 Cummon now even the end of the world is going to have some jackass troll us to the end|0 Oh fuck that man thatll shred your bum hole to ribbons Rather use newspaper|0 Thank you here It s fine for now we are 4 milions in Tuscany and 112 sick people i hope this will slow down|1 I dont disagree with that aspect but I would like to hear more about how they are going to protect critical workers police fire power plants water prison staff etc hiretrain people set up treatment facilities MERELY telling us to be careful and social distance does not give me any confidence that they are taking proactive measures against what can happen Prisons are already rioting in Italy such events are not unexpected by anyone that can think thoroughly|1 At this rate once we get to a 1000 cases our health authorities will upgrade the risk to moderate|0 PostSARS syndrome that struck those survivors sounds awfulCopying my comment from another thread And if you want a reason to worry about getting sick even if you dont think youll die SARSCoV2 binds to ACE2 receptors which are found in the lungs kidneys and in high numbers in the testicles httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022418v1During the SARS outbreak which is also a coronavirus SARS was able to cross the bloodbrain barrier and caused some damage that lead to chronic fatigue in many survivors Over 40 of people that participated in this study reported fatigue and 27 met the clinical definition for chronic disease syndrome The people in the study had all recovered from SARS an average of 413 months ago when it was conductedCoronavirus is SARSCoV2 and also can cross the bloodbrain barrier While it is way too early to tell if this one causes similar results there are some reports out of china from patients who recovered early on having similar symptoms over 14 days after recovery More info on postSARS httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamainternalmedicinefullarticle415378|0 Would a booster help|1 thank you I appreciate this and will check it out|1 No but Ive seen autodeletions when an account is created then used to post a comment on FOS minutes later maybe thats what it was but I dont know|1 Would this have happend if the original sellers of the items were allowed to increase the prices|1 And everyone will blame THE ENTIRE situation on China in terms of spread when China closed down to buy us a little bit of time to wake up and start responding to the situation|0 Oh fair play|1 This thing is nasty holy crap God help us|0 Actually is wasnt though 4 weeks ago we were at all time high SP was trading at 3397 3 weeks ago we start to go down and as soon as this started to affect our homeland we started to rapidly plunge What will come out of this is likely bringing key manufacturing back to the USA and lower our dependence on China Also China is mostly up and operational and producing again This would have been a really bad quarter but it wasnt expected to turn into a bear market Well see what Trump and Pelosi have in store but expect some major financial stimulus today|0 Thank you|1 South Korea has tested a lot more people so the number of people who are sick is higher whilst its suspected in other countries people with mild symptoms are going undiagnosed|0 httpswwwthestarcomnewscanada20200228headsshouldrollnurseslividovercovid19maskdebatehtmlTextUS to invoke special powers to boost production of protective gear for coronavirusby ReutersFriday 28 February 2020 2219 GMTAdds stock market close and US Vice President Pence commentBy Steve Holland and Richard CowanWASHINGTON Feb 28 Reuters The United States will invoke special powers to boost production of masks gloves gowns and other items to protect against the new coronavirus Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Friday as the Trump administration was criticized by Democrats for its preparationsWith more countries reporting new infections companies starting to curtail employees travel and global stock markets on the precipice of a free fall health officials scrambled to deal with the prospect of a widening outbreak in the United StatesWe will use the Defense Production Act as necessary to enable that our contracts go to the front of the line Azar said in a briefing at the White House That is an authority that we have and we will use it to acquire anything we need to acquireTwo US officials told Reuters on Thursday that Republican President Donald Trumps administration was considering invoking special powers through the law to rapidly boost production of key materials for national security or other reasonsThe number of confirmed US cases of the respiratory disease is still relatively small at around 60 most of them repatriated American passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship docked in Japan but there are growing fears that the country is on the cusp of wider outbreakOf the confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States only one patient is still in the hospital US Vice President Mike Pence said on FridayIn every case people are being treated and by all accounts are doing well he said during a livestreamed news conferenceThe outbreak started in China late last year The latest World Health Organization WHO figures indicate over 82000 people have been infected with more than 2700 deaths in China and 57 deaths in 46 other countriesAnthony Fauci a doctor who heads the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said in a closeddoor briefing in the US House of Representatives that the sustained spread of the coronavirus meant there would be many more infections in the United States according to a sourceFauci warned lawmakers the country did not have enough testing resources the source said on condition of anonymity The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it has revised its criteria for who should be tested and is ramping up testing capabilitiesOur goal is to have every state and local health department online and doing their own testing by the end of next week CDC official Nancy Messonier told reportersA vaccine may take up to 18 months to develop health officials have saidMARKETS PLUMMETUS and global stocks plummeted as rattled investors braced for the prospect that a pandemic could further dent an already slowing world economy increasing the pressure on governments to quickly respond to the crisisThe SP 500 fell for the seventh straight day on Friday The index suffered its biggest weekly drop since the 2008 global financial crisis on fears the economic disruption caused by the coronavirus could lead to a recessionStocks cut losses right at the end of the session The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 14Amazoncom Inc the worlds largest online retailer said all its employees should defer nonessential travel including within the United StatesIn Washington House members were advised to establish plans for alternative work arrangements in case the coronavirus becomes widespread in the country SergeantatArms Paul Irving wrote to lawmakersThe White Houses top economic adviser Larry Kudlow told reporters the US economy was sound and said the Trump administration was not planning to take any precipitous policy actions at this timeFederal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said the coronavirus posed evolving risks to economic activity adding that the US central bank was closely monitoring developments and would act as appropriate to support the economyTrump this week said the coronavirus risk to Americans remained very low but he has been increasingly alarmed by the reaction of the US stock market which he considers a barometer of the economys health and sees as important to his reelection in NovemberIn tweets overnight Trump defended his administrations responseWhite House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney played down the threat telling a conservative conference that walltowall news coverage of the disease is a ploy to hurt TrumpBut prominent Democrats accused the White House of botching its efforts and preventing health officials and scientists from properly informing the public about the extent of the threatFormer Vice President Joe Biden a contender in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination said Trump and Pence had limited Americans access to information about the virusTrump and Pence decided that the public health experts cannot inform the public on their own whats going on Biden said at a campaign event Now the president wont let other people tell the truthPence was tapped by the White House this week to lead the governments coronavirus responseFunding to combat the crisis has become a political issue The White House is seeking 25 billion from Congress Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer has called for 85 billionThe Democraticcontrolled House could vote as soon as next week on emergency funding for the anticipated medical and economic costs of an outbreak said a congressional sourceReporting by Steve Holland Richard Cowan David Morgan Susan Heavey and Makini Brice Additional reporting by Howard Schneider in Fort Smith Arkansas Lisa Lambert in Washington and Jonathan Allen Michael Erman Hilary Russ and Sinead Carew in New York Writing by Paul Simao and Ted Hesson Editing by Alistair Bell and Grant McCool|0 I agree with you this was my first thought when I read the article Sure maybe the disease mechanisms and the stats are a bit more disturbing than the flu however the most recent pandemic with this type of spread that weve seen was the Spanish Flu in 1918 I think so long as we note the differences between the two diseases themselves the flu could be a very useful comparison in terms of understanding the epidemiology of the situation|0 Delayed in California apparently due to reagent issues or something|0 That doesnt really make sense For some people interstate is a 2 minute drive or part of their daily commuteIn Texas you can drive hundreds of miles in state You need to ban all domestic travel or none at all You cant arbitrarily say interstate when US states are all radically different sizesI would expect by the end of April all bus and plane travel will be shut down which will cripple the economy People arent grasping how serious this is Millions of people will die in the US and now that we know animals are susceptible tens of millions of animals will die and spread the disease like wildfire It will get into our food system from infected animals which will also increase spread By end of summer the world is going to look a lot different than it does now Mass food shortages and riots are likely gas shortages looting mass unemployment and homelessness Its going to get really bad really fast|0 For every dead person you have at least 1000 infected people With more than 600 people dead in Italy the real figure of infected people is more around 600000Add on note Intersting how most people deny this figure Are they afraid or cant they inform themself Just check the the study from The Lancet Nowcasting and forecasting the potential domestic and international spread of the 2019nCoV if you dont believe me|0 Orangy authority|1 Fear mongering it gets views|0 This is why we wont be as successful as South Korea or China at controlling this Were doing only half of what needs doing but we arent doing the other half We need to be screening testing and tracking down contacts like crazy to find the cases and isolate them selfisolation is only partially effective|1 Same Im a pharmacist who has been working all week and developed a cough over the weekend Im self isolating but its hard not knowing for definite If it is I could have easily infected my colleagues and patients but I have still just been advised to self isolate for 7 days and they wont be testing me|0 Happy cake day|1 Im so glad hes said this it needs to be out there|1 jesus lol|1 Ok so you agree the Chinese Res Cross has supplied Italy with 30 tonnes of medical equipment as well as doctors Cool Sounds like they did well|1 I waited literally hours to download the trailer for Fellowship of the Ring on my dial up and watch it on RealPlayer Good times|1 While I have no clue about this it makes me feel good reading it At least until I get to the next post telling me were all fucked and to say our last goodbyes to our family Im just hoping it all blows over cause I was really looking forward to my trip to Denver next month to watch the Padres beat the Rockies and if shits getting crazy dont know if I feel comfortable getting on a plane and going to a stadium|0 This is great thanks Unfortunately BC is only giving SUPER broad location info Fraser Valley Region gee thanks |1 Trump didnt want Xi to feel bad for his horrible response so he joined him|0 Ive been trying to tell friends of mine about the long term effects but they wont hear it To them its still just the flu|0 It doesnt really matter It had been called in many place in mainland as well addressing it as But the new is more inline with the translation of Novel Corona Virus or just which is short and convenientCalling it in China is not discrimination but rather a description So yes my brainwashed estimate is that not many people are offended left or rightNot sure why it presents such a big deal to some people|1 Ive done the math and its really not pretty what comes out the other end I hope I am so wrong But so far I havent been I got shouted down for suggesting the virus was r0 of 408 For saying it was aeroslised And now Ill probably get crap for this But the potential is for 225m lives to be lost to this Its going to be massive I really hope Im very wrong on that figure And I can come back and see how stupid I was to ever post this ever|0 Ok|1 Who knows what the actual fatality rate is for covid19 But these morons in charge of things imagine if something like 1020 ever happened We would be so screwed|0 Trump and a lot of conservatives have chosen to frame the virus as a foreign threat It makes sense for Trump to do it to worsen public perception of China but I cant think of any reasons for anyone outside the administration of Republican Party to do it other than ordinary racism Calling COVID19 China Flu is a dogwhistle plain and simple|0 Im also in Maryland The way my school is handling this is horrendous|0 Just making a guess to defend your defense or you have a source to back that up|1 1 People can be selfcentered assholes2 Our society has been saturated by overhyping events where many see a boy who cried wolf scenario3 Our top leaders started this out by calling it a hoax4Cognitive dissonance People literally unable to see truth due to preconceived beliefs5 Arrogance and false bravado6 Always refer back to 1|0 Yes|1 Not at all My beloved dad is in a nursing home and is at the highest risk of dying than anyone I know or have heard about I write about infectious diseases and diagnostics for a living and have for 20 years I understand how health protection works Ive covered all outbreaks since 2001 maybeI have a special interest in this one because of my dad and other elderly relativesThe young are panicking and thats not leaving any room for the most vulnerable If their carer can only do one weekly shop for them what happens when there isnt any loo roll or pasta or paracetamol What happens if they want to call 111 but cant get through Or if they need a GP appointment|1 Very good idea to outsource components or full machines with absolute professional and strict quality for survival of any body hospital or clinic in need I Have no 3D printer or knowledge to make parts but im able to send money to buy supplies electronics etcCan we start a project here on reddit to start something for our fellow Human beings Even to collect money to buy these machinesEdit I am not talking of 3d printed parts only but the full processI m sure many companies large or small will fabricate metal parts or electrical components to spec to make full working machinesEdit2 Would some companies outsource their components to be made to make more available machines Countries during the war crisis were taken over to make components for many machines etc|0 68000 recovered could be a very small portion of millions who are infected right now who are not recorded tested yet Not that great of a chance|0 These type of profiteers should be expelled from society Theres no excuse to their greed in times of emergency If we were in a lifeboat they would be eating the rations of others|0 If one has nothing better to hand then simple extrapolation can be very helpful If youve got something better Id be interested to see it|0 Cant you like just ask China for some I mean buy it from them theyve got the manufacturing capabilities|0 I live in Tunisia and health minister annouced only 1 confirmed case as they tested only 139 ppl out of 2000 suspected cases since February I am certain at this time given the proximity to Italy and France that the numbers are way worse and that no one wants to make ppl panic so they are just letting things go unnoticed I have been sick for 2 weeks now and going pretty paranoid about the whole situation|0 Pretty sure someone in Japan already tried that He tested positive then broke his quarantine and went to a bar because he wanted to infect as many people as possible before he was caught|1 I understand so given that we dont have any number for the final CFR but we do have the 34 number from an authoritative source which seems to me has risks to both the downside and the upside and is probably in the ballpark of the final CFR it seems reasonable to use that to me|0 Better than the 400 rumor but for a country that size with such a large Asian minority still shocking the UK was at 7 or 8 thousand like a week ago|1 I work in hospital ops and research and can tell you that fda guidelines require a clia certified lab to perform an fda approved assay for any kind of diagnosticclinical test Research testing and clinicaldiagnostic are very different and clinical tests need to go under advanced testing and approval processes before they are stamped as approved for use for making medical decisions off of If labs are left to their own methods you cannot standardize sensitivity and different hospitals will have wildly different rates of false positives and false negatives Drs have to make decisions based off the results of these tests so they need to be vettedIn coming months you will have hospitals with approved standardized assays but I understand why we need to use the cdc approved kits for the time being|1 the more tested the more that can be isolated before they infect more|0 Good gravy you need to either go to another hospital contact your doctor or go to the University Health dept Whether or not you have covid19 is not the issue You probably have pneumonia which can be life threatening A hospital cannot send someone home who cannot breathe without at least doing a chest xray and having a pulmonologist consult Please advocate for yourself|1 Oh shoot what health conditions He seems so healthy i thought he was |1 What can a person in the US do Willing to help just not sure what means article referred to paywall|1 insurance companies are problably glad they declared this a pandemic in a LOT of countries its the same as they dont take responsability in pandemics|1 China did the exact opposite They hunted down every case in Wuhan aggressively to contain it|0 How many cases go unreported This is the real answer Most people are not sick enough to go get tested or treated|1 Yes This is why I hate hearing about the damn 80 Dont get me wrong I am happy that 80 will be mild but no one seems concerned about those 20There is nowhere in the world that can handle 20 of their patients being hospitalizedLets say only 40 to 50 percent of the population gets it That is still 8 to 10 of the countrys population that will be hospitalized and we still cant handle that eitherNow lets add in the flu season thats going to come back around sometime in November Cases are still going to be popping up and if this mutates far enough again all those people who had it already are going to get it again So now we will have a flucoronavirus combo this winter and it will be like this every winter until we have a vaccine that actually works|0 An extra 1015 or 40 if youre the asshole who bought all that handsanitizer is enough to force you to put other needed supplies back May not seem much to you but to some thats a prohibitive increaseBut right now they cannot buy it at all How is it an improvement over letthefreemarketforcesdotheworkIts either that or rationing Even rationing might not prevent shelves from going empty but it would smoothen the distribution a bit|1 My estimate was community outbreaks would come out right after Super Tuesday which was a week behind I was a week behind on the market failing too From my totally unscientific experience of playing 400 hours of Plague Inc over the years we are seven days from shit Hitting The Fan Its tough to say because lack of testing means its potentially everywhere For a totally unknown amount of timePeople make waaaaay too many easy assumptions that dont make sense Not dangerous to young or healthy people uh theres a lot of young and healthy people sick or dead from this already Maybe not enough for you to CARE but yes Even children|1 lol pneumonia so funny my healthy 19 year old friend died in his bed 0 monitoring needed roflmao|1 There is a decent amount of people and doctors here who speculate that it has hid behind the flu since DecemberJanuary even in the US in certain places The urgent cares were calling it the not flu flu in decjan because flu tests came up negative I think this may be possible to some extent if its true that testing only reveals the tip of the iceberg This is just speculation of course|0 You left the Jews outs I just picked up the book Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond and am about a third of the way through It tries to answer the question of how Europeans and Western Asians ended up in a dominant global position without being racist or citing IQ theories I like it so far the author definitely doesnt portray white man 1|1 Could you imagine working in their lab right now Theyve probably got more samples than damn counter space to run them plus keeping them labeled correctly and not accidently skipping a step in a procedure And here I thought my old lab job was effing nuts at the end of the business month|0 It means the virus is not detected and not transmissable And the antibodies should now protect you against the virus in the future|1 Bandanas in a pinch if no masks at all are available this is better than nothing Available in packs of 12 on Amazon and elsewhere I am sure They fit tighter across the top of the face The masks are better because apparently they trap pathogens with an electrostatic charge Cotton is quite porous Inserting a pad use your imagination between the 2 layers of the bandana creates more of a barrier Wash after each use in very hot water and detergent or boil|1 Because we will all get bored and start going out Imagine that spirit among the WW2 generation Getting bored of years of Blitz curfews and rationing The complacency of the public has been facilitated by this government and quite frankly BBC aswell|0 If we shut down information that doesnt agree with official sources whats the difference between us and the Chinese|0 Yup I mod another sub for uncensored info where we show legitimate videos Most of these have been posted but The very first clip told me everything I need to know about whatever dumbass spliced these vids together This wasnt done to show the truth it was done for viewers and subscribers Its sickening Doing this for shock value is a disservice to those of us legitimately trying trying to get the truth out there Whoever made this piece of shit panic film did so purely for entertainment value and should be ashamed of themselves 100|0 exactly in the early part i did very minimal prep but when information started to go weird one day a while back I flung my self into trying to get what i would need hard and focused dishonestly and pussy footing never calm me down|0 Dont do this not worth the risk of spreading it Call 111 and tell them youll call an ambulance if they dont take this seriously|0 god this is so fucking scary I was going to exit my positions tomorow but maybe ill stay in them|0 This is insane a total disaster No one should have to go through this|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfcv0tzhowturkeymanagednottohavecovid19casesfje60vzcontext3 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|0 You plan on killing yourself in front of a mirror Weird way to go but you do you|0 But in western Europe at least medicine is very good but costs need to be kept manageable A lot of effort is in treating people so well that they can go home very quickly Some operations that used to mean a week in hospital when I was young now are done in a way that mean you can go home within hoursBut that does mean there are not necessarily a lot of beds available when shit hits the fan|1 Yet I fear Also this is because of more aggressive testing than before|0 not great not terrible|0 Yeah but some people catch it and remain asymptomatic for awhile especially local transmissions So they wouldnt know if they have it I am unclear if asymptomatic transmissions are a thing as it seems heavily debated|0 rENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM jesus fucking christ you cant even admit trumps response has been a complete shitshow he was calling it a democrat hoax last week and telling people if they got coronavirus to go to work|0 I see this said everywhere but CDC is there to test for novel viruses So if a doctor tests a critically ill patient for a bunch of stuff we can test for in hospital and all of those tests prove negative the protocol would be to send it to the CDC I find it highly doubtful that theres been cases among critically ill with nCov symptoms and no travel history whove tested negative for everything else to have not been sent to CDC for testing|0 Unless youre Bill Gates and are funding a free home coronavirus testing kit which is delivered in 2 hours time I mean its definitely not a blank check but if were gonna have any hope in the situation It should probably be with the man whos been advocating to heed the warnings of our ancestors and prepare for all viruses for years now I mean there is even a whole interview on youtube which talks about his biggest fear Pandemics|0 Oh Im sure we will we being the survivors and there will be many ofc But as a gamer the temptation of unabated 8 weeks of gaming is intense It would be curbed heavily at my parents since their internet is honestly atrocious 8mbs at best But again choosing gaming over family safety in these conditions is insane something Ill fully realize in a few weeks maybe only days|1 You can check without breaking the shellPut the egg in a glass of cold water If it sinks on its side its fresh if it sinks but stands on end its still good but use it soon If it floats its not good but if you are desperate you could crack it and give it a sniff before you make the final call Eggs last longer than most people think they do|1 Same guy is now posting that a source tells him chloroquine doesnt work but it all sounds maddeningly vague httpsmobiletwittercomdavidasinclairstatus1239234810947801088httpsmobiletwittercomdavidasinclairstatus1239234810947801088|0 I cant stand ignorant comments like this|1 Another big thing on topchina population isnt armed like a small military makes quartine orders easier to implement|1 No shit shirlock Perhaps nows the time to have a talk with your boss|0 The straight up denial of this with people is what really scares me|0 But people abroad come through airports And South Korea did not block visitors even from China|1 The difference is they were dealing with an unknown virus We had the jump on it but failed to take the appropriate precautionsOh please give me a break We didnt know shit because China intentionally tried to hide this from the international community|1 I stopped going 12 years ago in preparation for this outbreak|0 I think this is what they are referring to It is also unclear when the state may get more specialized face masks known as N95 respirators Most of the states stockpile of several million is expired leaving only about 20000 masks for use the governors office confirmedhttpstimesofsandiegocomtech20200229californiafacesshortageofcoronavirustestkitsandspecializedfacemasks|0 Southern Africa has about the same weather as Guangzhou right now The fact that there are no known outbreaks in any Sub Saharan African country is starting to become noticeable especially because there is a lot of Chinese travel to the region I understand that there is not enough information to confirm anything but it is interesting South Africa at least appears to be testing potential cases httpswwwnews24comSouthAfricaNewssastillfreeofcoronavirusas133testscomebacknegative20200228httpswwwnews24comSouthAfricaNewssastillfreeofcoronavirusas133testscomebacknegative20200228|1 bruh like for real though what am I supposed to do not work and not pay rent go to a hospital and get charged upwards of 3000 that I dont have America designed this shitty system and it can pay the price most people dont have the energy to give a fuck because they cant afford to anyways either you rack up anxiety or just kind of accept that its gonna happen and hope for the best totally expect this response to get buried but thats the real truth of it|1 i appreciate it but it looks like the karens are out in force tonight lol|1 Who cares about looking crazy start warning your friends and family Youll regret staying quiet if shit goes badIm telling everyone in a calm way what they should do stock up on a months supply of everything youll need to be comfortable at home Its not hard and doing it now will take pressure off our supply lines and flatten the infection curve if it gets bad Id rather they make fun of me in a month if this all blows over than it getting bad and me regretting not warning people I care aboutOut of about 30 people I had a serious conversation about this with only 5 took it seriously and listened But 5 is better than none|0 Wait 68000 out of 127000 thats a lot of people who didnt recover Worse Italy out of 12000 cases 800 die Thats not good news|0 Lots of physicians replied to his tweet all citing Chinese treatmentsWe should really stop being so arrogant and ask China about the successful treatment|0 remember how fully prepared we were to tackle ebola they use the word tackle as if its a football game httpswwwdailymailcouknewsarticle2790615ambulanceofficersforcedmakeebolasuitsfearaustraliatotallyunpreparedfightoutbreakdeadlydiseasehtml httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2014oct25australiaebolaresponseshamblesamahttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2014oct25australiaebolaresponseshamblesamax200Banyone remember the flimsy visors our medical staff were going to use to handle patients with ebolahttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2015feb04ebolanursepaulinecafferkeyinfectedvisorreporthttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2015feb04ebolanursepaulinecafferkeyinfectedvisorreport|1 Nope His point still stands You can get all of what you just posted and not pay a dime Sure they can charge you but you are not legally obligated to pay for the care So your credit takes a hit If youre in that situation you arent worried about your credit anyways Healthcare is there a lot of people are just too lazy and up for making excuses to pursue it|1 Assuming the same ratio have it nationally as projected in Ohio you get a number of 28 million|1 I agree I think with the whole Trudeau thing sophie that Canada might actually do much better now too People tend to care a lot more when something has a negative impact on their own lives Meanwhile across the way I can only hope our great cheeto overlord gets it so he can start caring as well |1 Id say the call to suspend all cruises needs to be made now Its much overdue|0 Nope Eventually well all end up carriers of it and this virus will live on in our descendants for centuries to comeI mean I know that sounds extreme but if this is true how would it NOT eventually spread to every last person on earth|1 Color me shocked I guess they do have a heart bottom line|0 Im a New Yorker and am also terrified|0 My 92 year old grandmother in Florida had no clue what was really going on right now and how serious this is for her and people her age until multiple family members laid it out for her|0 RemdesivirThats the one I have heard is the most promising Studies should have gotten underway this week on the effectiveness of that drug If it goes well expect the trials to be fast tracked The drug is already on the market to treat malaria so it can be approved as a treatment pretty quickly All good news if it goes well|1 Its all in their heads Cant trust psych patients The virus is under control|0 Allowing flights from Italy with no quarantine or screening is definitely an exemplary dumb thing to do|0 I have gotten in so many arguments the past days on Reddit with assholes that are like it doesnt affect people under 50 stop worrying wtf|0 I called mine but they countered and I am now floating in a body enhancement vat of Courvoisier and rare earth minerals I will soon emerge like a well toned and slightly lit butterfly|1 Two ways1 Within the apartment complex someone organises online groups and you join one or more and put in your groceries order The order gets aggregated and sent to a supermarket Supermarket fills the order and get it delivered by courier to the gate of the apartment complex its guarded they cant deliver it inside like normal times Then people in the group go downstairs to the main gate and pick up their order2 Government will sometimes ship free or discounted goods and the local neighbourhood committee a grass root CCP organ organises a delivery They will pile it up in a place and you go down and pick up a bagful One at a timeHeres an example of method 2httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfd9axmpeoplegetting10rmbvegetablesinwuhan|1 My friends and family from the US keep worrying about me being in Taiwan I just keep sending them links about how Taiwan has been the best in the world at reacting to the virus|1 Just use common sense whatever makes the most sense for you and your situation and use your best caution If you happen get it you take responsibility for that and likely recover at home Dont catastrophize one way or another|1 all of them Lol just round everyone in the world up|1 Not even closeTheyre underestimating the number of infected by at least 10fold60 of people are asymptomatic alsoSo the true number of infected will be massive and so the death rate falls|0 I dont think so Democracy is very good system IF populations are smart enough and not be as ignorance as some people are today I know therere some system that more efficient than democracy but I dont think its gonna works in reality|1 Honestly I think this is fairly ingenious So long as you keep your mouth closed|1 Yes you can the President has sweeping wartime powers to compel industrial production These powers were enacted during the Korea war and have been in effect ever sincehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiDefenseProductionAct|0 You still need to give a solid proof to negate this claim You cant say oh because they always do that Thats a false assumption Show me the true numbers or even your estimation by a scientific measure|1 There is currently no strong evidence that ibuprofen can make coronavirus COVID19 worseBut until we have more information take paracetamol to treat the symptoms of coronavirus unless your doctor has told you paracetamol is not suitable for youIf you are already taking ibuprofen or another nonsteroidal antiinflammatory NSAID on the advice of a doctor do not stop taking it without checking firstSource NHShttpswwwnhsukconditionscoronaviruscovid19selfisolationadvice|1 Man that changes this from holy crap were all going to die to well thats a smart decision better safe than sorry|1 Im a Brit living in Shanghai and I agree with every point apart from the mask and hand sanitiser availability Where are you getting them Everywhere within a 2 mile radius of me is sold out|1 You are in Maryland I live there too Keep us updated and get well soon|1 The current strikes might actually help reduce transmission then|1 I skipped over to rconspiracy the other day and they say that some guy on 4chan says that when the virus gets to Brazil its going to make a super strain from their bats and then we will all die|0 The problem is some people need the hospital to not die If the hospitals get flooded it will increase deaths Not even for just covid patients What happens when cardiology is full of infected people and you have a heart attack Countries are turning sick people away to die because they have no room|0 Profits before people This is all about tourism|1 Good news Her healthy bub has sure been born into interesting times|1 And now the not so strong strain is in china and the strong mutated strain in europe Seriously Are we that stupid |0 I think thats already punching much too far We only see this correlation again and again and it is very surprising and often very strong It could be totally different factors and something unexpected Eg for just a random shot nothing I believe What if more smokers just have some immunity because they got infected more often with other coronaviruses because they behave actually more risky in general and put their fingers into their faces all the time and they get infected more easily in general not the other way round And people with asthma which are also missing to some degree in the samples of one study also got that more often Nobody can know that without looking at it and I could make up an infinite number of such theories Much could already be done by doing more analysis on the case files they might provide some hints eg looking more precisely which smokers are missingare there if it is particular age groups particular social groups particular other conditions and so on In the course of that you could also look if there is a systematic problem with the case file data itself thats also an option but a more unlikely one because it is so many different unrelated studies|0 There are plenty of measures that can be sustained for that long No events over a certain threshold recommendations to work from home where possible hygiene campaign and contact tracing can help flatten the peak and reduce the total number of people infectedClosing down companies travel and schools are things that are not sustainable for a longer period|1 Yes Koreas average age is massively skewed lower as a result of the infections being concentrated multiplied by a huge cult This is one of the biggest factors in the mortality difference|1 Youre an absolute fucking clown for acting childish towards someone asking for evidence of credibility Even if you cannot provide it you should remain civil because nothing is more natural than asking for proof of such bold claims The fact that you chose instead to insult this person simply lends more credibility to the idea that you are making this upTheres frankly no reason at all why you cannot provide some kind of proof Even a picture of the Header of the email or something|0 worst crisis since ww2 LOLshes going to be fine|0 Do you have a source on this I cant find anything dismissing this on GoogleEdit Sorry for asking for a source Have I displeased the gods with my lackluster googling skills|0 I want something to be very clear A mild case is relative to how strong the fatal cases are A mild case has scary chance to scar lung tissue for the foreseeable future|1 wouldnt it be better to be prepared|0 Man this is the best place in the world for biking Enjoy|1 It will be the same here Theyre in denial now so it will grow to this point and then theyll have to do something drastic to keep people calm|1 Please see edit|1 That same box is now 399Might help if you mentioned how much the box cost when you bought it|1 24 year olds breathe a sigh of relief|1 they should know how to stop when they can Thats not going to happen The medical staff there are working themselves to death|0 I added this to another cross post I did on a different thread and figured I would add it here as well AddendumThis video is political and may not be for everyone Unfortunately I dont have a breakdown of timestamps My intention was to share that while political in nature this meeting did have appropriate topics that were addressed supply shortages realistic numbers that the medical industry may have to deal with over the next few months logical discussion about uncertainty of numbersdata coming out of China and also briefly addresses how the warm weather in both Wuhan and also Singapore doesnt seem to be impacting the transmission of SARSCOV 2 in the ways which were expected Always find and verify information and think for yourself I hope this is helpful to those who either choose to listen or do not I am just trying to be helpful Thank you|1 Hes a fucking hero|1 US was taking flights for 31 days after China reported CV to the world lord knows it was probably around for a month before that atleast httpswwwchinadailycomcna20191213WS5df2cb95a310cf3e3557dd03htmlhttpswwwchinadailycomcna20191213WS5df2cb95a310cf3e3557dd03html According to the release the civil aviation sector will handle 79 million passenger trips during the travel rush a projected yearonyear rise of 84 percent x200BThe travel rush starts mid janurary the spring festival is jan 25th this year meaning most people did their flying the week of the 25th x200BDoNt AdD UPP|1 Most people are fuckwits as in well over 50 of people Nonfuckwits just tend to curate their circle so theyre not aware how many their areRecent political events around the world have made this apparentMostly they hide it well but situations like this are a great filter|1 I think people are assuming the government have only just come to the conclusion that they need ventilators which is clearly not true theyre not that stupid|1 Our society is stupid|0 Too I have havent gotten my refund yet lets wait on that man Give me like another week then well be good|1 If I heard they got better quality food taco bell would have half my paychecks|1 Speaking of prepared I wonder if they will have enough hospital respirators for the pneumonia phase of all the people catching this now|1 What really is making me doubt my sanity is how many reasonably smart people are saying its just the same as the flu Or no worse|0 Obviously its shit Im aware of that But if your choice is potentially pass it on and kill your elderly parents and grandparents What would you decidePersonally I think the government needs to make sure everyone can self isolate and get full pay to make sure this situation doesnt happen|0 Not surprised since they managed poorly with Fukushima too|0 It has plenty of correlation with peoples lungs and there are serious complications Theres always edibles my friend nothing against MJ|1 I work in a logistics warehouse at 3am I touch 1000s of packages everyday I am so confused what they have planned|0 Goddamn do I love Ashley you know if hes saying it we gotta be taking it seriously|1 They only had c sections because they were too physically affected by the virus to push As anyone would be with pneumonia Im ttc and am not worried for the pregnancy Im more worried about having asthma already to be honest but Im only 23|1 Luckily when a pathogen mutates its a singular not global event So only its offspring will carry the new trait its not like a magic switch gets flipped and everyone on earth starts getting organ failure out of nowhere at the same time Plus pathogens have evolutionary pressure to become less lethal and symptomatic|0 My coworker who Im close with but in a platonic way was quarantined Ive been talking to him all day every day for the past week and a half Ive always cared for him deeply I would do anything for him but I guess worrying about him and having him on my mind fucked me up cause I def had a sex dream about us and woke up in a cold sweat Ugh fuck everything|0 Its the better turd sandwich|1 Fairly calm Thats hilarious All the posts that have gotten removed within the past couple days show how paranoid so many people are on here So much conspiracy shit and untruths Theyre nuts|0 Ivanka has a Bachelors degree from Penn which is pretty impressive Many would argue she wouldnt have gotten without her dad being an alumnus and donating money to the universityTrump himself has a bachelors in Econ from Penn one of the Ivy League but does anyone think that Trump could explain just about anything at the level of an Ivy League econ major in their junior or even sophomore yearAnd yes Trumps daddy clearly bought his way into Penn|1 It doesnt really represent as the flu A doctor shouldnt really get to flu as a diagnosis if its nCovA mild case would be just a weird cough maybe with fever I guess it could look like a flu if you also have a cold with upper respiratory symptoms at the same time|0 Unfortunately this is the heart of the matter Stay home Stay out of stores Call out of work tell them you dont feel safe at work and talk to the head boss of you need to They need to wake the fuck up|0 Was just talking to my husband about this today Why is rural OK ignorant to situations like this What is the point Also in some of my subs there has been talk about the rural population believing that COVID19 is fake and people are actually dying from 5G cell towers Even though many countries dont have them|1 In a way yes in other ways like energy consumption at homes will reach an abnormal demand|1 This could spark a ride to the moon mike Sit tight Stay safe We dont stay on the path most traveled anyways|1 There were an italian couple who sneaked out of their quarantined town because they wanted to go to the ski resort that they had planned to visit The night that they got in town they got sick They got tested the next day and came back positive Go Figure|1 Well damn Can they go out on their balconies or on their frontback lawn|0 Generally most mutationshttpswwwnaturecomarticlesd41586020002369 in a viral genome have no effect or are even detrimental to the virus Viruses mutate constantly but it doesnt make them more virulentHowever when a virus jumps from one animal to a new host like a human the virus might need to adapt to the new selective pressure to survive Most likely SARSCoV2 has a bat originhttpswwwnaturecomarticless4158602020127 Because of flight bats evolved to have reduced inflammatory responseshttpswwwcellcomcellhostmicrobecommentsS1931312818300416 which makes them excellent incubators for viruses It has been suggested that viruses become more virulent in bats as wellViruses dont aim to kill the host This would be an evolutionary disadvantage and deadly viruses disappear more quickly Viruses like influenza are most often not deadly but infectious enough to find new hosts Sometimes however there might be overreactions of the human immune system to a certain virus and this is what might cause fatalities|1 I didnt imply strongly its a fact that if its infectious and it spreads before it kills the host then it doesnt matter if it kills the host Its literally how natural selection worksNature is full of examples where for example the male mates with the female and then the male dies Did that stop them from replicating No So then that species can continue to spreadIf you think anything I say is incorrect be specific I didnt speculate because I didnt say anything specific happened I just explained nothing stops the virus from being more deadly And this actually happens a lot with pandemics Happened with the Spanish FluEDIT By the way to say we dont have evidence of it being R0 1 after asymptomatic carrier spread the disease to hundreds of cult members in South Korea and so many other examples like that is frankly bizarre|0 Well the news did tell us not to wear facemasks so people are giving it the authority its earned Thats how lying worksThat said theyd ignore advice that was inconvenient regardless so moot point I suppose|0 Bro its spring break right now Ask yourself how many people are currently travelling right now Outside of forced lockdowns via Marshal Law the world wont lock themselves in|0 Why cant we and the disease just live side by side in peace|1 In a perfect world with infinite masks yes We still dont know how many are truly asymptomatic when you hve symptoms you are definitely shedding viruses If you have plenty maybe use a mask if you will be around a crowd of people for the reason you give But really avoid people|1 Honestly I dont understand the US You have so many cases yet schools and universities arent closed I live in Ukraine which by Trumps measure is quite a shithole We have just 1 confirmed case yet our government already prepares to close down schools and to ban public events|0 They like a cool dry place If you have room a fridge drawer works really well but I dont have the space Ive purchased a Rubbermaid tote and put potatoes etc in it and put the lid on to keep the light out|1 Meanwhile my hairdresser is going on a cruise today one of the managers at work just left for Cuba and my SOs parents have a cruise in two weeks with no intentions to cancel I like these people but wtf is wrong with them Most of them could get refunds too but just arent|0 Quit smoking Its insane for you to be so worried about this disease and also just keep smoking At your age you will be at risk with many existing common diseases Pneumonia incldueed|0 People here talking like its 80 death rate|0 I doubt my county would be able to enforce that|0 Our government has stopped trying to contain the virus and will instead now focus on treating the sickest patients Anyone with a runny nose or a cough is now a potential covid19 carrier and must stay home|0 The elephant in the room here is that Asian wear masks overwhelmingly as a form of social distancing Asian societies are fucked up when it comes to lack of interaction As a Latin American Id rather die from a plague than live in an insane socially sterile dystopian world|0 In a world where everyone has a smart phone you would think theyd release this on that platform instead of a computer download which is hardly used anymore|1 Where do the entryexit records come from though Does China disseminate the records You certainly cant count on the passenger to provide you with any entryexit slip|1 Yesgood news is on the way A miracle drug called Remdesivir is undergoing Phase III trials as we speak They should be completed in a couple of weeks or so with a fast track to FDA approval for coronavirus treatment It was developed for Ebola and already proven safe for humansThis means there is a treatment protocol The one drawback is it is given via drip once a day over ten days But this means there is a cure for serious cases While it is not a vaccine if by wild chance you get a serious case you will be cured and on your way to back to enjoying life and feeling the sun on your faceThat is a good thing Keep Calm and Live Life|1 im not Italian but hell yeah im proud of them they were slow to begin ill be honest but now theyre really taking it seriously and i think this has the potential to save many many lives in contrast the uks reaction to this has been appauling|1 Happy cake day|1 Thank youWhat cold medication do I need to get for this|1 Bulgaria just enacted this up to 1 year in prison if you break quarantine during an emergency situation|0 Sorry I misunderstood what you were saying|0 Thank you for sharing this is helping me quite a bit I hope you are finding comfort too friend|1 Dr Drew Really What a fucking idiot|0 of course if you have money the wuhan virus most likely wont kill you|1 Stephen Miller is everything that wrong with the trump White House His claws where clearly on that foreign virus line|0 People want to act like this is a really negative thing to saymainly because they only MAYBE started caring this week or not at all People arent ready to admit their comfort came at a cost to many othersor care that it has consequences America hasnt lost enough to change for the betteryet|1 But alone it isnt strong enough evidence a fever is the best indicator|1 Lol no you have no idea what youre talking about Experts have been saying for months that non symptomatic people have been spreading the virus|0 Im glad that precautions are being taken and that hygiene is now a toppriority when it definitely wasnt beforeIt would help if more businesses provided soap in their bathrooms I was just at the gym and they still dont give you soap you have to bring your own|1 God this has so many other effects that I never would have thought of|1 So instead of WWI we have a government trying to keep up morale so the stock market doesnt crash|1 Thats what they say But when deaths knocking on the door theyll be screaming and hollering and blaming everyone for getting her infected|0 I got kind of lucky My partner wasnt necessarily on board with me stockpiling throughout February but i took the initiative and paid for it up front myself so he didnt stop me and never called the whole thing a bad idea Just sat back and watched as I bought meds and sanitizers first then non perishables then treats Easter candy Soda Junk food i typically forbid from the house then finally the week before last week I got meat dairy and veggies When things got real last week i could just see the relief and appreciation on his face and it helped us ride into this storm together We will make it through together together with our families our neighbours our states and our countries We have to do everything we can to make that the reality Take care|1 avoid using public transportation|0 No see my last comment|0 Having a consistent message means muzzling silencing censoring what ever other hyperbole has been used to describe itYou guys need to decide which one you want and then stop whining that youre getting it|0 That works well for you you can now file for unemployment since she fired you |0 SARSLess commonly known as an alternative strain of the Corona virus|0 The China outbreak isnt even two months old Its still early If youre talking about the US yes they can test for a variety of causes of viral pneumonia If the test comes up negative for all of those they will not test for 2019nCoV unless the patient meets CDC criteria for testing For example NYC had a few cases that did not test positive for any known pathogens and the infected persons did meet CDC criteria They were then tested for 2019nCoV The test results took over half a week to complete They came up negative for 2019nCoVIts pneumonia season and its still relatively early into the 2019nCoV outbreak Itll take time for 2019nCoV infections to become apparent in the US especially with limited testing Hong Kong Singapore and Japan would serve as better indicators for a few weeks I think well only know how bad or how good it is over in the US around early March though probably even earlier Thats the tricky thing about exponential growth it starts off and stays quiet before it suddenly blows up in your face|0 applause|1 Difference is the young were sent to die for the old in WWI and II Now the old are dying because of the young transmitting the disease without anyone knowing they have it|0 We actually know all this already common anonymous dig Please|1 Now just tell me one thing Why the hell would they name this new compound the same exact name as THE most popular button cell 3V battery|0 my feeling is that they have more or less the same time span of being virulent as other patients just without having any symptom Problem is i think theyre a very hard case to study cause most people who dont have symptoms wont go to the hospital so wont be tested and is impossible to make a statistic about them|0 Either it will happen or it wont People are freaking out either way|1 By different do you mean worse Because you should|0 We had the same reactions here in italy 10 days ago In 10 days people everywhere in the world will understand how serious this disease is|0 Most of those people probably think college and postgrad educations are scamsThis isnt a bad view to have Depends entirely on what degree you go for and where your passion is in life For some a trade school or simply skipping college altogether works better for themThe notion that EVERY SINGLE PERSON out there should be in college is absolutely foolish Its why tuition prices are so high supply and demandTo equivocate them with antivaxers is kind of a reach|1 I had a 101 degree fever and no but I am in contact with individuals from UW medicine who have informed me when I am safe to go back into society I am about 10 days recovered and am slowly making that transition but have mostly still been under selfisolation|1 I hope that her surgeon husband is selfisolating as well What a nightmare Walked into the Burlington Costco to hear two employees discussing this story FYI Costco is still out of toilet paper and people were making a big run on the paper towels Managed to snag a box of 150 pairs of nitrile gloves for 999 near the hardware items No hand sanitizer to be found anywhere A week ago Giant Tiger had several bins full of Clorox wipesnow everythings gone Glad I bought some when I had the chance People are definitely getting prepared I even saw a young girl around 10 or 11 wearing a mask in Costco|1 They only accepted help from the WhO Hahahaha this proves everyones theories|1 No I believe South Korea did a good job testing tracing and containing the virus so it didnt get out of control like it did in China Theyve seemed to be able to handle the influx of patients and provided high quality care and had better outcomes Everyone agrees South Korea has done the best job If only all the other countries followed suit|1 Thats what happened in China with small farmers setting up their own direct delivery services You fire up WeChat or an app choose vegetables and meat from the days menu and they send it to front gate of the apartment complex|0 Alternatively we might have a small stock in the UK and want to protect that to treat people here should it prove an effective treatment|1 I mean without Fox News how could they hope to spin the coronavirus|1 After reading your comment I went to verify it as I only heard about this from my familyTurns out it was just a plausible rumor spreading on the Chinese internet Found a site on Weibo that confirmed it was a rumor Ill edit my response Thankshttpscardweibocomarticlemshowid2309404471492913004598wbclient1Translation Recently a method of selfhealth test by taking a deep breath for ten seconds has been circulating on the Internet If there is no cough during the belching it means that there is no pneumoniaThis method is unscientific and meaningless It is not recommended that you selftest to avoid unnecessary worry For example airway spasm airway hypersensitivity disease paroxysmal or persistent cough may occur after deep breathing or even if not breathing deeply but this does not indicate the presence of pneumonia True pneumonia has the typical manifestations of shortness of breath wheezing chest depression and wet snoring in the lungs This new type of coronavirus pneumonia will also show typical lung changes|0 damn the death rate is almost 3x higher than wuhan|0 as though the Muslims arent their citizens You cant concentration camp your citizens and also take care of them|1 Yep especially with ebola The news was so rampant even though the risk is significantly lower Maybe because most only knows ebola from TV with blood gushing out and this is just the flu Everyone have some experience with the flu|0 yes unfortunately your pets will remain a vector of transmission|1 Well here in Australia our government closed the border basically immediately lol|1 Doubt so Have friends working in the hospitals and they only test the worst cases Everyone else stays home even and selfquarantine even if they are highly suspicious to have the virus|0 The 34 is actuals based on identified cases But its possible that fatality rates could creep up close to that in areas that get severely overrun|0 Super happy for you brother Congrats|1 Thats not how America works The poor will suffer from illness and death The perpetrators will be punished by retiring on a pile of money and a book deal blaming someone else|0 Most asymptomatic people at the point of testing later go on to develop some symptoms It is difficult to write up case studies like this where the doctors have to be confident that the patient really was asymptomatic eg the German study was criticized because the lady turned out to have taken fever medication that the infection could only have taken place during the asymptomatic phase the infector might have to travel away or something and that there was no other way the infectees could have gotten it elsewhere|0 Thanks I will look these over|1 Ive seen terrible press stories not live news from Fox that just repeat Trumps ignorant talking points I would never go to Fox for reliable news|0 At some point the states need to have agreement on things that are outside of the form of government they have otherwise we may as well abolish the interstate commerce clause wholesale Where abortion transforms into murder is one of those things that should ideally be a universal thing Red states for some weird reason think that line is prior to the insertion of the penis into the vagina Probably all of the creepy old dudes in power there|1 Well Scandinavia now is truly fucked|0 the window to do the best for country was to learn what was happening in italy and south korea and close or hardcore screening at Canadian borders but nothing happened and here have the resultkarma has already hit the most responsible person who is suppose to take care of Canadian time will reveal more|1 Because they also desperately need it Do you really expect countries to abandon their own citizens over another nations|0 He literally said we dont even know if half the global is infected twisting not needed|0 Good for you I quit last August after 17 years of smoking Pretty glad I did I put on a little weight in the first month as well I noticed I was filling the time I would usually go and have a smoke by going to the kitchen and grabbing a snack So after I put on a few pounds I replaced the snacking with walking Anytime I felt like having a smoke I would just go for a walk If I was at work I would go outside my office and just walk around the building If I was at home Id go walk around the block It helped me keep the weight gain at bay So instead of snacking trying walking|1 We have to print it off and sign to apply and we dont have a printer at home will have to finish tomorrow or whenever we can get back to our storeI found the interest rates herehttpswwwbdccaenfinancingpagesinterestratetermsconditionsaspxThe Small Business Loan is offered at BDCs Floating Base Rate of 505 effective March 17 2020 plus a variance ranging between 1 and 12 which is confirmed once the loan is approved The interest rate is subject to change without notice|1 With the confirm cases therehow screw are they though They have to be monitoring the infected but could the rest of the outside world be some how contacted flights|0 Great way to get the herd all in one place breathing heavy on each otherKeep going everyone Remember to keep us all safe from the virus we all need to catch the virus|1 In 2006 when he was running for Mayor of London Boris Johnson told an audience at Lloyds in London that The real hero of Jaws is the mayorhttpswwwirishpostcomnewsoldborisjohnsonquotejawsmayorheroresurfacesamidcoronaviruscrisis181536 A gigantic fish is eating all your constituents and he decides to keep the beaches open OK in that instance he was actually wrong But in principle we need more politicians like the mayor we are often the only obstacle against all the nonsense which is really a massive conspiracy against the taxpayer|0 Accidentally|0 lol what an arrogant asshole this bitch is unreal|0 We should have done that at the end of impeachment saga unfortunately|0 yeah i realized after i hit send|1 Imo its a really fine balance he has to walk between managing a crisis and causing a new crisis from panic alone Yes he should treat us like adults and provide just the facts but many adults will overreact potentially cause more harm than good|0 Not one bit surprised I think what more worrying is that WHO have increased the death rate to 34 to put that into perspective the Spanish flue was 23Obviously its early days and that might change but I think our government needs to start implementing some of the things set out in Mondays cobra meeting We need to be a step ahead Postponing large public gatheringsnon essential travel working from home where possible and school closures I fear it will be too little to late|0 They wont be missed|1 USAs CDC arent even attempting containment They have advice in their page that reiterates they want public help slowing the spreadThey have also plainly said it will get a foothold and be something they will just have to deal with and mitigate Extremely defeatist and disappointing|0 A lot of grown human beings are incapable of cooking for themselves especially not with enough variety to make it through two weeks of quarantine|0 Everyone wearing masks with feed the hysteria|0 Oh I absolutely agree People shouldnt even leave their homes except when to acquire groceries medicine or healthcare Also we need to cancel all the damn schools nationwide|0 How come the ER wasnt notified ahead of time that they were coming I work for a hospital and we have isolation procedures to meet the patient at the door No walking through the ER at all|0 While the existence of God and Satan is a debate as old as time covid19 is very real as is the effectiveness of taking basic precautionsYour comparison is only accurate in the sense that people have to make their own choices regardless|1 Dawg I dont know how you misinterpreted what your urologist buddy said or if Im misinterpreting you but malpractice insurance doesnt cost that much for either a nurse or a physicianIm a nurse and pay less than 200 a year Physicians pay more typically in the tens of thousands I believe Surgical subspecialists like urologists would have more expensive insurance but not 700k Are you talking about their salary Or maybe how much their insurance would cover in damages if they were sued|0 Premier league cancelled all games after they tested positive|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ah so family is involved yeah thats what I meant I guess|1 Theyll politely ask that guy to stay home no biggie|0 Please leave sensationalist headlines in china flu In peril I agree this is bad but I come here for real news Not CNN and fox level headlines|0 GG worldWith love Wuhan|1 What are the chances that Trump knows the difference between covering a copay and covering treatment|1 Yeah if I close my eyes I cant see anything Dammit|1 You can and you should if they are stupid enough to keep supporting them|0 This is what happened in WoW corrupted Blood incident There will always be someone who will deliberately try to spread the infection|1 Hope the other 49 states follow This will slow the spread and save lives|1 Its only after a few people get it and die that theyll finally allow people to work from home where possible That will be as narrowly defined as they can make it and my guess is absent a threat from the government most of them will happily work their employees to deathMy guess is that some PHB Dilbert reference pointy haired boss somewhere will make will make some poor infected soul come in to work God forbid anyone gets enough PTOsick time the whole office gets and someone dies Then the employer gets taken to the cleaner in court Thats the real reason that employers will eventually capitulate not out of any common sense or humanitarian reasons|0 Well the Dutch gov says that if we lock down we will never get group immunity|1 Maybe you should do some research on infections received while in the hospital here in America According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC there were an estimated 687000 HAIs Health Care Associated Infections in US acute care hospitals in 2015 and approximately 72000 HAIassociated deaths CDC 2018 The widespread use of antibiotics has resulted in an increase in antibioticresistant infections leading to more than 2 8 million illnesses and more than 35000 deaths each year in the US CDC 2019 Source httpswwwhealthstatemnusdiseaseshaihairprt18pdf|1 Sorry I dont understand what this has to do with my comment|0 Were reaching towards that They were right at the second circuit breaker multiple times today|1 literally all the tests the CDC gave to hawaii were faulty America is lying about the official numbers of the virus The 20192020 flu season in America has been more severe than last years how many are due to COVID19 httpstimecom5758953fluseason20192020httpstimecom5758953fluseason20192020|0 Doesnt it cost something outrageous like 5K to get tested in the US|0 some men just want to watch the world burn|1 China only produces like 1m N95 per day up from 600k which is not even enough for 14b Chinese let alone the world|1 Only positive tests count|1 Cries in 1650 laptop|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thanks for sharing this|1 Scientist here there are very few papers I dont have access to for free thanks to my university But Im 90 sure anyone can go to the library and read research papers for free if they want to Scihub is also very easy to use and you can get pretty much any paper for free that way The average person isnt going to understand the technical jargon of a paper anyway though|1 Even his username is Flu Guy 2019|0 Thats crazy|0 I salute you as well We did our best Theres nothing else that we can do now This was hard and I cried a few times leading up to this weekend Whats done is done It is an unstoppable avalanche|1 Dude get a grip 61 people 61 Lets say it gets 1000 times worse 61000 people|0 Ive heard from professionals in other countries that testing is not being done because they health officials doctors hospital directors know that the virus is already here People should be staying home already and testing would only overwhelm local health systems when those resources should be dedicated to the very sick Something like that|1 I will say the mall Im picturing nearby has a gym with showers already present Lots of good points here though|1 America does have pneumonia deaths Its the PI data available from CDCFluView No evidence for a surge yet 70 of states are below their forecasted level through the end of February though two Southeastern states are at 8year highs for the last week availableend of Febbut youd expect 650 per week|0 Usually as a customer youd have paid the deposit at the time of bookingI assume youd be on about a payment towards a booked holiday which would just be cancelled if you didnt pay|1 People dont appreciate how FAST this unfolded I have heard more than a few people use the phrase weve had a hell of a year this week and it rings true|0 Click bait Headline shld indicate victim had leukemia|0 2020 electionyearboogalo number two|1 Im pretty sure I got paywalled from their live update page I closed it and tried to look later in the day and it wouldnt let me|1 This is something I have been thinking about Looking at Tom Hankss case only a few days ago he was infected and already has been cleared to leave the hospitalOf course I think its great hes on the road to recovery so quickly but at the same time I worry people will look at this and think Look how quickly old diabetic Tom Hanks recovered this whole thing seems like an overreactionOn the one hand celebrities getting sick does drive the point home but on the other hand I feel that reporting about so and sos recovery can lead to a false sense of security for some who see it|1 I think they are just going to keep repeating everyone has been tested no tests have ever been denied and then hope by next week the commercial tests will cut down some demandThen hope fewer people die than say the flu and then just say the flu is worse|0 The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function Albert Bartlett Physicist on Manhattan Project|1 Sure thing buster |1 Americans seem to be excepted This is a big mistake|0 This paradigm where some people deserve a mask more than others isnt sustainableFEMA has masks in storage Enact the legislation required to tap into these resourcesSpin up a few N95 mask manufacturing factories I know this isnt an overnight task but just like Hong Kong the US can import a few machines and increase domestic production|1 Just excuses to try and persuade people not to buyuse masks This is really the CDCWHOs fault for lying and saying masks didnt help in the first place|0 Damned if you do damned if you dont Who cares at this point As long as more people are now starting to take this serious this is progression in getting through it|0 As long as you view it as RED vs BLUE both parties are happy because then you depend on them|1 Made the decision to keep mine home last week Ill be damned if I wait for the government to tell me when I can and cant protect my child|0 They are trying to fix it quickly Even if it results in more death|0 Ok Broomer|1 Its good news because number of recovered daily is higher than number of new casesIf it continues with this trend since feb 18 in about a month theres only gonna be less than 10k active infected cases worldwide|1 so 19 makeshift hospitals that house approx 1000 beds and with the 2 they already have we have enough hospitals for 21000 people not including converted dorms stadiums existing hospitals etc with only 70000 infected|0 thank you were now hunkering down Im extremely lucky in that I work from home so count my blessings there|1 Tests vor Ort werden nur bei begrndeten Verdachtsfllen mit Symptomen gemacht ie if you cant prove that you interacted with one of the 1000 official cases or arent returning from Italy you wont get the test Even if you show all the symptoms Could be the flu after all|0 you know what this is something that has been playing in my mind a lot and in all honesty it does point to that it will help them clear the homeless and destitute ppl on welfare and lessen the older population which are becoming a burden due to living longer and longer because of better medication etc its a horrible horrible thought but it seems very plausible|1 Imagine the panic when the level turns red|0 Masks can definitely decrease the risk for infection from COVID19 The thought is that it is transmitted via large droplets which a mask should help prevent HOWEVER we have a shortage of masks worldwide so rather than making a large purchase of masks if you are young and healthy its best to try to leave them for older patients or those with significant medical illnesses Thats why you may be hearing mixed messages We really need them for people who are at high risk of death and contracting COVIDThe reports about masks not working are really based around the fact that at this time the evidence is that more restrictive N95 masks are necessary to prevent the virus transmission this may change well be watching the CDCs webpage for those of us in the US These require specific fitting as there are different sizes The surgical masks you see most people wearing dont actually limit much airflow and may instead offer a false sense of security TLDR If youre young and healthy dont bother with a mask if you need one wear it but wear it correctly|1 Coronavirus in NY Head of Port Authority Tests PositiveRick Cotton the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is one of the most prominent US officials to have contracted the virusRick Cotton the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey which operates the regions major airports bridges tunnels and bus terminals has tested positive for the coronavirus Gov Andrew M Cuomo of New York announced on MondayMr Cotton is one of the most prominent public officials in the United States to have contracted the virusMr Cuomo said that Mr Cotton who had been overseeing the Port Authoritys response to the virus had selfquarantined at his home and would be working remotelyHe has been at the airports obviously when many people were coming back with the virus Mr Cuomo said at a news conference Mr Cuomo suggested that Mr Cotton might have been infected as part of his work on behalf of the authority at Kennedy International Airport noting that it was one of the main airports for people coming in on those overseas flightsReached at his New York City apartment on Monday morning Mr Cotton who is in his mid70s said that he had no obvious symptoms of the virus but declined to comment further Im in selfquarantine at home at the moment he saidIn addition to Mr Cotton senior officials at the Port Authority who had worked near him were also being tested for the coronavirus the governor saidMr Cottons wife Elizabeth W Smith is the president of the Central Park Conservancy a nonprofit that helps renovate and refurbish the 843acre park in Manhattan The conservancy did not immediately respond to a request for commentSome members of Mr Cottons staff learned of his test results just before Mr Cuomo made the announcement It was not clear how many of them would be tested or how many had been quarantinedI could have been in contact with Rick Cotton the governor said who added that he had not tested positive for itThe Port Authority operates the New York City areas major airports including La Guardia Kennedy International and Newark Liberty International Airports and employs more than 7000 peopleLa Guardia is not an international airport like Kennedy which is the primary gateway to New York City for international visitors and travelersMr Cotton a friend and ally of the governor has run the agency since 2017 Mr Cuomo appointed him to the positionMr Cottons office is in the headquarters of the Port Authority at 4 World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan the office complex that the agency built and rebuilt after it was destroyed in the terrorist attacks on Sept 11 2001|1 No not everyone will go to the pub Yes some people will go to the pub but a lot of people will see the government taking this seriously and will think theyd better stay at home to be safe This will slow the infection rate Its not about clamping everyone down and keeping them sealed in their houses its about making sure enough people stay away to slow the infection rate so that the NHS can cope with the critical cases and save more lives Allowing things to continue as normal just means the infection spreads exponentially meaning more people will need ICU at one time meaning the NHS wont be able to cope and more people will die|1 Regardless of the quarantine working or not it will still slow down the spread of the epidemic in other cities and allow them to treat patients without getting so overwhelmed|1 It killed up to 575000 people worldwide|0 That is incorrect Current death rate in south korea is 26 of 56 cases 464 You cannot count people who you do not know outcome for in the death rate|0 Omg thats you Ive been laughing at your comments for ages |1 You arent sterile if youve had a vasectomy Just an FYI to everyone|1 I have tickets for Santa Clara day 1 and frankly its not looking good Edit I say so because of USs entry restrictions Maybe they will take the time they now have before SC to enter the US after having been to an intermediate country for a couple of weeks|0 Then why did he die Did they release him prematurely Is the virus more deadly than we think it is|0 Of course Any wealthy person who doesnt have a contingency plan in case of disaster sucks at being rich There will be a lot of greasy palms in the near future|0 My grandparents keep my youngest siblings during the day Im concerned over transmission in that regardnot so much worried about the kids I know that sounds cruel but like you said theyre mostly all fine|1 Stay the fuck home|0 Why would they not just try the vaccine on people who are already infected and pour the money into more research |0 How should I clean my mask if you have a guide it would be uber helpful But any instructions would be great Ive been really wanting to figure out how to do this|1 no way Really Well I dont see why not but thats insane that only 80k in China got it knock on wood|1 I know right I can totally respect the message that he spreads about being personally responsible and getting your life in order I just dont get how he sees these people buying stuff and sees anything other than people trying to take charge of their lives and be responsible Just like everything else some people overdo it sure but not the majority The spirituality thing is a pet peeve for me|1 You cant ban things based upon unknowns making any decisions based upon an unknown is stupid you have to make decisions upon the things you do know not how much you dont know|0 We dont implement quarantines and mass panic about the flu though Those 2 things will drive the spread of this down significantly Its never going to just be spread without control like the flu is|0 I am confident that The Notorious RBG has her shit together|0 Do YoU eVeN uNdErStAnD do you think Im a fucking idiot Of course I understand Im saying its a bit much to say its gonna be the worst thing since WW2 And as cold as this sounds people die Its a fact of life And people will die from this Im not looking forward to forfeiting my education income for up to 2 months but since i have to lock myself in my house I gotta do what i gotta do Amd obviously even though its through hysteria the US is starting to get that message You need to call down and take a step back and look at this from a more level headed perspective|0 ShitBRB moving somewhere where the sun comes out more than like 15 days a year|1 Why resign Make them push you out the door kicking and screaming all the way Put the spotlight on them No one is going to be sympathetic to government lies on something that puts them or their families at immediate risk|0 Christmas island is really nice but the offshore Australian detention camps are absolute hellholes and a stain on our national character|0 Honestly with all the ways this has been mishandled I have a feeling this will pass|1 The only reason its not currently known is that the way we normally confirm immunity is through an antibody test on those whove recovered and its just not there yet This is very new But hopefully this pasted info from a recent Guardian article will help Prof Jon Cohen emeritus professor of infectious diseases at Brighton and Sussex Medical School said The answer is that we simply dont know about reinfection yet because we dont have an antibody test for the infection although we will have soon However it is very likely based on other viral infections that yes once a person has had the infection they will generally be immune and wont get it again There will always be the odd exception but that is certainly a reasonable expectation|1 Thats not always how it works Spanish flu mutated to become more deadly in the second wave It killed primarily young healthy adults and spared children and the elderly opposite of what usually happens|0 Yeah My friend just sent me the address to a big house party this is gonna get bad |1 After reading more into the subject and what youve put I do see what youre saying and it does make logical sense But then I feel Im not an expert and so often in science the obvious conclusions are the wrong ones and the people advising the government are highly respected and I feel will do what they believe is best for the country If that view makes sense Thanks for being civil with responses anyway backing up with data and not as reactionary as others may be |1 The period in between which my symptoms were diminished was about a day and a half to two days if I recall It was very similar in behavior to how Chenbariatrics1 on Twitter describes the cases shes seeing except I didnt die after the second wave I absolutely felt the coldness and diminished blood flow she describes We have a bit of a record of my symptoms over time because my SO was texting her family and friends about itEdit to better describe the gap on the first day of it I could feel the symptoms start to improve Fever was subsiding Then I had a full day of feeling much better core temperature back to normal and thinking the illness is subsiding Then either that night or the next morning I was right back to peak symptoms again including the fever of 101102F I have never experienced that with a flu before and I had H1N1 in 2010ish which was brutal for me too|1 httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfa19coitalyfrom229to424casesfrom7to12deathsWith a current 200 cases daily growth I dont understand how they can expect to get to 18k in two weeks|1 I work in the service industry and this is impossible for me A sick day equates to no job I have a month of rent and thats all No other income I love that yall fancy good career having folk are taking this seriously hats off to ya but some of us cannot partake in a voluntary self quarantine We simply do not have the means It is what it is|0 Shoehorning your preexisting political positions What political position have I shoehorned in I think people of all political leanings are not taking this seriously at all There is no Governments side WOuld you prefer me to use the term Governments plan not one I agree with personally as like you Im selfish lol youre welcome to explain how im being selfish|0 While that is unfortunate for those in the nursing home it may help the rest of the country wake up to the dangerthe viral tsunami|0 I almost doubt this because it presumes some strategy whereas I assume utter incompetence from this lot They more likely didnt pay any attention to expert opinions in January and just didnt react but it does seem convenient to not have stats so close to an election|0 We have a wedding of 130 people supposed to be scheduled for a month from now with lots of family slated to travel from other parts of the country Obviously it wont be happening with the situation as it has escalated but Im not gonna lie Im really saddened by that We spent a whole year and a half planning this day and we were just getting excited that its finally here Your friends did a really awesome thing and maybe we will use it for inspiration Weve also talked about just going to the court house and getting married on our date regardless then trying to postpone the actual big wedding since weve already paid the venue photographer caterers etc theyve all been super willing to adjust our dates during this crazy time but then that begs the question of when will this be over When is it okay to reschedule they were offering dates in July and that feels too soon But heck December could still be too soon Anyway your friends did a really awesome thing by making the best of a tough situation We will figure ours out too |1 Agree Im on the Coronavirus TX Subreddit and so many people are complaining about having COVID19 symptoms and failing flu tests but not being able to get tested for it here in Texas because they dont have enough test kits|0 Dont forget the reeducation camps where they keep all the Uighur children they stole|1 why is the USA failing so unnecessary Donald trumps personality is defective He cant tell the truth even if its in his interest|0 Yang 2024 maybe we will finally be ready for automation in a SARSCoV2 world I sure as hell am not going to buy a burger made by a human unless that stuff has been BAKED to 80c bun and all|0 Problem is that the flu vaccine works least well for those most effected here|0 I cant tell if youre joking because that actually sound amazing|1 In contrast my mom was a Trump supporter and when I talked to her about coronavirus a couple weeks ago she said I dont believe that idiot in chief|1 The goal of public health is to help people get wellThis is incorrect Preventative measures is a primary goal of public health|1 Thanks man She isnt intentionally doing this though shes a nice person Shes just illinformed and has normality bias She thinks Im living a life of fear if I let this determine the decisions I make I think its mostly because of the media and governments comparing it to the flu No matter how much I try and explain to her exponential growth she will just look at me blankly and says but there is only a few cases here and look at the population number|1 absolutely uniquely terrible permanently scarring pneumoniaThe only evidence we have of this is from autopsies And those people were hooked up to mechanical ventilators which are known to cause permanent scarringYou really need to read more about something before you get worked up about it Lots of sensationalist headlines out there and not all of them are accurate|0 could u link the first one you read pls thank you|1 Thats a wordier way of saying what I said in my OP It should be said that of course the cruise ship R0 will be a special caseHowever seeing that this is true its very worrying that a whole boatload of people have disembarked from the Westerdam cruise ship We know for sure that one person was infected on that ship Having an r0 from the Diamond Princess could help us understand how many from that ship are potentially infected|1 Good to know|1 Agreed Although I dont know why they wouldnt just widen acceptance and use fixed effects or whatever to isolate and control for those kind of interactions This isnt exactly a normal drug development scenario If it works lots of people get saved and weeks make a huge difference in total saved|1 The store I work at got a bunch ordered in so stores are still being supplied I had the opportunity to buy all but realized Id be adding to the problem so just bought a ten pack and a 2 pack Im pretty sure my store is going to prevent people from buying all of them and do a limit per person|1 And dont forget Swedes plays among the highest tax in the world Also the party in charge now had public statements like every problem can be solved by raising tax and the worst part ppl voted for them Sweden is really killing itself now|0 Wuhan is a transportation hub no less|0 Really Wildfire We should use such words with care|1 I think it highly depends on the compound and how serious and literal they take the regulations They do take the time and place seriously no way to dump your litter otherwise but AFAIK dont really check whats inside the bags The only thing thats truly separated is kitchen waste since thats dumped without bag|0 Sorry to hear youve a Fuzz 4 Brains friend Have you told them to get a jobFB is the pits of humanity|1 I nuked my glasses when they came from China and then washed my hands like I was going into an operating room Eh so far so good I would like to know in which temperatures it survives Id happily throw a package in the freezer for a few days if it made any difference I also nuked the stinky 10 bills I gave my guitar teacher and put it in an envelope|1 Maybe a last air Bender joke|1 Princess cruise is having a bad 2020 Questions regarding how to deal with this will be interesting Quanrantine on ship could be much more complicated with mostly US pax but debarquing and isolating that many people has got to be a nightmare|0 The saddest part of all this is this is a system we created The entire world is facing a pandemic and were worrying about our precious money Its so fucking sad|0 Same here bro I work at a psychiatric hospital as well and its getting very scary|0 Yes report all of the reselling bums|1 The CDC is deliberately keeping numbers low Theyre still reporting last weeks numbers of cases and deaths Theyve probably been pressured by people who dont want the actual numbers to affect wall street any more than they actually have Its stupid bc people will know and there are already other more accurate sources with double the death count|0 Bailout|0 Let the guy hammer it inhe may be dumb and capitalizing on fear for votes but between him or CCP spokesman spewing lies non stop Ill pick him every time|0 Love hearing these stories when they want to be anonymous Hate hearing theses stories when its plastered all over the tippers social mediaKudos to these two for doing a good thing for the sake of helping people|1 I mean you have left them with an unaffordable housing market education and healthcare debt indescribable wealth inequality and a planet on the verge of climate collapseI think theres more things bothering us than the incoherent ramblings of an old man from the most selfish generations to have ever existed|0 Well quite a lot of them apparently do since theres a demand and despite the obvious risks government let them This isnt the first time that a new disease jumped from an animal|1 Unfortunately we dont have the resources to test everyone From what I understand the real number of infections is 1020 times the official number globally with the exception of s Korea which is possibly why their CFR is so much lower than everywhere else The government bless them s are taking appropriate action I am as amazed to be typing this as you are to read it We need to understand that the time for testing for the sake of testing has passed We have community spread People will make reckless choices regardless of the numbers unless they are forced to make appropriate choices again the god damned toilet paper I dont think higher official testing numbers will encourage anything other than selfish panicked irrational behaviourThat said of course testing has its place especially to identify new clusters or inform the treatment of critically ill individuals But most of us will thank goodness not get critically ill Overburdening the system is the real threat now and testing is no joke it is a risky procedure for the person doing the testing for example and cant be done without appropriate PPE which the province is a bit short on at the moment Id rather save the mask and gown to treat a truly sick person than test one with mild symptoms You are welcome to disagree But as neither of us actually makes these choices I really dont think that either of our opinions actually matters much|0 You are 100 right solidarity from across the pond|1 Thats really hopeful Every school in an affected area need to be shut downStaying away from other people is the only way to avoid spreading the virus even further Its terrible but what else can we do|0 Feels like the government was more responsible in 1918|1 Even if they are able to promote the spread of the virus throughout the US enough to cancel a national election the only people who will be dying are the demographics that primarily vote Republican lol|1 If so youll have to cancel all conserts and sports events for the next two yearsThis will not get serious this year This will get serious next year|0 Not just You every 3rd post on my fb feed right now from brits is only 3000 people have died more die of this this and thisIve lived in canada 5 years now and Ive noticed theres a huge difference with brits actively denieing corona being a big deal and Canadians are just not talking about it at all|0 Only the good die young|0 when encountering opinions about his country which are different from his ownLies are quite different from opinions As for criticizing the government you do realize that Korea is one of the most politically active countries in the world right Where we regularly protest in the hundreds of thousands Id be more worried about your democratic rights and censorship in your country than ours here Again correcting lies is not censorship Its just you not understanding shit about our government and wanting to shit on a centrist party that you want to paint as lefties and mischaracterize the South Korea government as proNorth Korea|1 Thank you very muchshe says thanks |1 The CDC says sick people should wear masks They acknowledge that they work and that they are important in that scenarioThis virus has a 514 day incubation period where people are asymptomatic and yet still contagiousTell me one more time why healthy people shouldnt be wearing masks other than because we dont have enough because we didnt plan for this|1 America is nowhere close to being ready for even a halfway serious conversation about that idea|1 This is very probably the caseI dont think the virus started spreading rapidly recently in the USA or these other countries like Korea or ItalyI think the virus was only DISCOVERED to be so widespread in those countries recentlySingapore went fullon with announcing a local pandemic early on DORSCON orange heavy public awareness campaigns providing government financial support for businesses to move towards workathome during this time and providing hefty government subsidies for seeing doctors for flulike symptoms with mandated five day medical leave without question Transparency and honesty of government competency in macro management and a welleducated population with social consciousness led to high detection rates from the outsethttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021320022707v2Thats how we caught so many cases so early on We went above and beyond from the outset with typical Singaporean bullish efficacy without regard for political economical or other concerns 100 function screw the formAnd also how we managed to taper off our new infection rate so quickly into the start of this international pandemic Make no mistake this pandemic is just starting for us all My guess is looking at what Trump and your Republican party are doing now the USA population will likely be infected heavily down the road People have died More deaths will come Look at Korea and Italy You dont just rapidly infect thousands of people in a matter of days through just a few infected persons The requirements for bodily fluid and liquid aerosol dispersion kind of limit the range of spread to only persons of relatively close contactIts likely they had hundreds of sleeper cases that were spreading undetected for weeks eg dismissed as flu followed by kneejerk reactions to test the population en masse after discovering them leading to a sudden surge in numbersImagine how many sleeper cases there are in the USA now being dismissed as just flu Who knows when USAs surge in numbers will be The longer you fail to detect these sleeper cases|0 haha was that a futurama reference|1 Hand sanitisers have been freely available up until about a few weeks ago Its not the person aboves fault that he got some and you didntYes its unfortunate that you have none and Im sure suppliers will be ramping up production to level 11 Hope you get some|1 The odds are that bad SourceIm not saying your wrong but this would be horrible news if true|0 the most concerning part of the Chinese economy is something a lot of people are unaware ofWhat are you referring to here|0 You shouldnt go bankrupt to fix it In any case that guy chose to stay conscious and refused PT Which was 30k|1 Mama Mia |0 Ill start calling them Lick and Suck|0 Of course you have to allow life to go on while you deal with itIf we all stop doing our jobs then society breaks down within 24 hours No one looks after utilities electricity water and gas stop No one restocks anything all supermarkets and stores run out of produce Fuel runs out Communications stop working Emergency services stop Armed forces have no reason to follow orders People start to panic loot fight and kill one another to surviveYoure not a genius to figure this out this is a basic understanding of our current civilisation|0 This shows that theyre giving up on containing and isolating They know the cats out of the bag in the community now|1 Same I need back surgery Its difficult to stay sitting or standing for more than a few minutes But now I have to wait until this all blows over|0 What about metaanalyses like thishttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4891197 that show handwashing mask creates a 27 reduction in flu transmission while handwashing alone does not statisticallysignificantly reduce the amount of flu transmission|0 OMG be cant catch a break lol|0 It seems like the death rate depends on whether or not the healthcare system is overwhelmed which makes sense to mehttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca|0 Not all landlords can afford to do that though thats the problem Unless theyre gonna be helped out themselves only richer landlords will be able to stop collecting rent while this virus is here|0 America is the richest country in the world and still doesnt even have test kits in all their hospitals The incompetence of the Trump Administration knows no bounds Medicareforall has never looked better|0 People who are pissed off might actually start doing this or taking similar measures|0 It sounds like theyre COOKING THE BOOKS|1 Please refer to the post you commented on and actually read it before you comment Or you knowdont and just keep scrolling Because this post wasnt meant for you so stop inflicting your personal desires on what I post|0 This is just straight up wrong|0 Hohenwald TN Yesterday the Walmart was not terribly crowded but stocks were low No toilet paper and theyd spread generic paper towel rolls so the shelves wouldnt look empty Fresh meat was low and the eggs were almost gone Really glad I have chickens Saw a guy in a respirator mask Associates were stocking in almost every aisle Manager was running a register and she looked exhausted|0 A lot of things are mandatory when going into an isolation room A lot of things which the average citizen wouldnt know how to do properly The average citizen might just walk the whole day with the mask and not change it once There are easier ways to prevent this that doesnt necessitate increasing even more demand for masks which are already in short supply only for a lot of those masks to be misused|0 at this point if a parent allows their kid to go on this trip theyre failing at their duty to keep their kid safe whatre they gonna do when their high school student is quarantined abroad for 90 days sick as can be and they cant get to them makes me sad|0 Thank you for the advice I will do my best|1 Are you seeing this criticism in the other coronavirus subIm an academic The Lancet is one of the best in the world Occasionally weird things happen at journals even top tier ones|1 Contractor No benefits Tough luck for the screener|1 I like to think Im an optimist if the UK get their shit together then they might be able to keep deaths in the hundreds I dont even want to think about the US the combination of Trump and their completely f healthcare system is a cluster of epic proportions|1 Heres httpswhatkillsitcomviruswhatkillscoronavirus a great resource on that|1 Thats funny |1 haha thats a visual|1 Is higher prevalence of infection within certain blood types a thing with virusesBlood types are believe to have evolved as response to viruses|1 Seriously I hope people are joking about lying to get a test |0 So the family I work for was in China for a month from Dec 14th Jan 14th When they got back the husband and daughter were sick with fevercough I got sick with cough but didnt have any syptoms besides that Im mid twenties Then they seemed to get better but quickly relapsed They are all on antibioticsBut it doesnt seem to cure or help Their young daughter had a fever and cough but seemed to fully recover while they are still struggling The cough I caught was similar tot the moms It was a dry cough Where all of a sudden a tickle would make you have a coughing fit and the mom would lose her voice often too They have been to the doctor many times and even asked for the coronavirus test but were REFUSED Keep in mind they live in Pasadena CA where the outbreak is now spreading to the community This family has also traveled to San Francisco San Diego and are about to go to Cincinnati since their return into the USA They are also still fully working and their daughter has been attending school the entire time|0 100 they deserve appropriate protection and support Its disgraceful that they are being put in this position in the first place|1 Have some fucking empathy for humans rather than corporations you heartless asshole Internet providers have been overcharging and undeserving for decades They can take a small hit|0 If masks were available Id be wearing one But theyre not so hand washing it is|0 Perhaps if you were going to stay with them I dont think youd be allowed to travel back and forth for visits Honestly its so confusing everyones circumstances are so unique its difficult to apply these blanket rules|0 This sounds an awful lot like China So much for the land of the free America is a joke|1 Thats CDC not all the tests CDC is busy verifying other peoples tests so they can eventually have enough data to get fda approved vs preliminary approved|1 Just dont infect Maynard please|0 This country is so ridiculous you dont listen to your health professionals only to rappers and reality show celebrities Let that sink for a while|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit racadiana If you still think coronavirus is just a flu and that we should not cancel festival read this Italys hospitals in the North are heaving a full on crisis and this could happen here if the virus is allowed to spread without checkhttpswwwredditcomrAcadianacommentsffy0t9ifyoustillthinkcoronavirusisjustafluandnbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|0 Yeah I went a bit nuts and bought 300 1 ply masks the last 10 surgical masks in my area 10 FFP2 and 5 FFP3 everything left in local town The last bottle of alcohol to clean them withThink the 1plys will do as liners for actual masks Been buying weird tinned food that I know my husband wont eat as first choice haha Emergency stash Beef ravioli and chicken chunk tins Beef paste Spaghetti is 20p a pack so that one was easy|1 Uh huh Everyone who has ever been to an AE knows they are barren empty wastelands|0 Nobody will be discounting this in two weeks Im its not going to be possible to hide the body count in the west|0 if and when theyre forced to your vpn or connection to your companys network is gonna get FUBARd down for at least 12 days cause of all of you guys trying to log on when there isnt enough capacity for that|0 Mine told me he would give me a good dose of vitamin D |1 Im OIs it safe to come out|1 My friend a homehealth PT cant even get a fucking cheap nonN95 mask from her work Shes in peoples houses I told her to fly back to her dads and stay there with him for the next 6 months Hes in his 80s Knowing him hes likely already prepped out That man thinks ahead|1 People cant dont want to pay for the test which is quite expensive Ive heardCan someone confirm the actual cost for a user|1 so they will use lawyers to do legal unnecesary stuff during war times fuck health capitalists lets sue them|0 No kids do all kinds of crazy stuff because they cant imagine a threat they cant see and have never experienced Its their parents who should be keeping them from frolicking in virus nirvana|0 Finally something amumu can help with|1 Get out of here with that shit The carbon tax is the bare minimum we can do considering we are one of the worst climate offenders on earth per capita|0 It will pass like 4 million miles away from earth so nothing to worry about There was a rumor that there was a chance it could hit earth but it wont so nothing to worry about It will pass earth in April|1 I agree with you Side note a friend was sick once She opened up a magazine scratched one of those perfume inserts Smelled it Told me it smelled really good I sniffed it from 2 inches away for a half second 48 hours later Im sick as hellWe had no proximity to eachother before or after as she was just stopping by|0 We can only hope|1 I think civilized people should get this stuff first The world shall never forget the crimes of the German people|1 No because cleanliness has nothing to do with it Washing your hands and not touching your face is a great way to not pick it up but when its airborne it can just enter your eyes even with a mask|1 This is a city of 29 million people and it feels like a ghost town Main roads have few cars on them Busses during rush hour have just a few people in them|1 Sorry youve failed capitalism 101 I hear the CCP has some new job openings though|0 Funny way to spell bribes|1 Even a 1 mortality rate would cause millions of deaths around the world Only if you assume through some miracle that everyone is impacted Which has not been the case with past coronaviruses Ridiculous|1 Yep And as someone with underlying health issues this is a bit concerning if Italy cant manage then we have no chance|1 Yes|1 22 divided by 546 40 death rate higher than other reported countriesHe played himself|0 Yup otherwise wed see massive evidence of it in China These speculations go straight in the toilet and flushed not even the trash bin|1 Youre not an MP Nadine Dorries got tested pretty quickly considering she hadnt flew in from Italy|1 You sound like a Chinese government cry baby trying to stir up shit No one in the USA wants masks other than our healthcare workers We are good|0 It could be a worst case scenario Its important to take in all that we know as a whole We know asymptomatic transmission has occurred We also know that many viruses exhibit cases of asymptomatic transmission We also know that in most of these viruses asymptomatic transmission is the exception not the rule What we dont know is does this virus maintain that pattern is asymptomatic transmission the exception or the rule when it comes to coronavirus Also we dont know at what point asymptomatic transmission is possible Is it immediately after becoming infected Is it 2 days into incubation Is it only 24 hours prior to the symptoms Or a full week There are certainly things to be concerned about but we dont yet know that its the worst case scenario The best thing we can do is take precautions as best as possible and remain hopeful that containment measures are effective|1 I was thinking a wellwrapped bog roll with maybe a hand sanitizer tucked inside |1 I am coauthor of the original paper Was just on television discussing HCQ first well controlled study against COVID19 600 mg HCQ per day after 6 days 90 of patients tested COVID19 negative 96 of control group tested positive after 6 days DM or grigano1jhuedu From Gregory Riganos Twitter httpstwittercomRiganoESQhttpstwittercomRiganoESQ|1 I think Singapore has been the most transparent Having said that I dont think high quality healthcare systems equals to tracing capabilities Other countries simply just dont seem to care|0 httpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirushttpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirusWe have tested over 11000 people to find 180 cases That is better than South Korea For every 61 tests 1 has COVID19 and 60 have the flu or the coldhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountries Italy has 40 times the number of cases we do|1 Im pregnant and wore one to costco today and an older white guy legit said Wow what the f Lol|1 This too shall pass Think about how our grandparentsgreat grandparents put their lives on the line for a much worse foe This is a war and were in the boring and depressing trenches doing what we have to do but we will come out the other side Hang in there and know its not the worse thing Italians have dealt with in the last hundred years by a lot Youve got this|0 Not to mention testing isnt free It takes capital and labor and for what so a bunch of redditors in a foreign country can pass judgement on the countPriority one is to save lives save the economy and save your country|1 WOW the CDC just cant keep a hold of the ball on this one can they Yesterday alone the province of Alberta Canada tested 2300 people for coronavirus In a single day And it takes the CDC an entire week to test 77 people What the actual fuck Also yesterday I think it was yesterday I just saw the video today the director of the CDC Dr Redfield had to be spoken to like a child before he agreed to free coronavirus testing for all Americans regardless of insurance He had to be emasculated and humiliated in order to DO HIS JOB and protect the people from diseases and viruses like COVID19 Personally I have little faith left in the CDC and it seems clear to me that their main focus is revenue and profits They dont care if the whole country gets sick so long as they continue to make money from itI urge everybody who is even experiencing the slightest of flulike symptoms to call their local doctors clinics hospitals health lines whatever resources are available to you Call them and see what the next step is for coronavirus testing Follow their instructions and do what you can to prevent the spread of the virus|1 O what a relief it is Should I go donate|1 Chuckles Im in danger|0 Im confused but leaning towards being less stressed about it here in the US Awareness is significant among both the general population and the medical population and quarantines seem to be helping in the US weve seen only very slow increases in number of infected and thats been at 12 for a few days now Its been so modest that just yesterday I wondered if maybe the virus mutated into something less virulent than that which those who initially caught it were infected with in WuhanBut time will tell with the incubation rate typically at 214 days with some as many as 24 dayshttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020620020974v1 I thought I read today we need even more time to see whats going on I dont believe that superspreaders are unusual with viruses so Im not concerned about reports of one possibly in Britain I mean I AM concerned but I dont think such spreaders are going to become supercommon|0 I reserve the right to be skeptical I mean please tell me what exactly could an arthritic remedy could do to treat pneumonia Its a completely different malady and Ive seen some pretty outlandish claims recently made by everybody even governments specifically the Chinese government saying that traditional herbal remedies will help treat it|1 To close to the truth to be funny is that why they downvoted you|1 in a storemall like that i can only imagine how full of virus the bathroom would be|1 So the free test is the door buster the loss leader if you will|1 Presumed cases arent just believed cases A presumed case had undergone state testing and returned positive for Covid19 You are correct that the CDC hasnt confirmed these cases but we shouldnt be minimizing the positive cases especially considering the CDCs horrible record of designing accurate tests keeping them from contamination and distributing them|1 Youre gonna be fine|1 these are trying times thank you very much for your posts|1 But asymptomatic transmission was not a real thing was itsAnd even now I wonder if they admitted to the possibility nay the certainty of AT|1 Pence should listen to scientists not the Bible Oh wait What did this say Hes not the horrible monster the media has been telling me he is Carry on|1 These naive rednecks Believe their president has already cured the virus with his stroke of genius so need to worry|0 Im asplenic and have a NRL of 076 Asplenia causes elevated lymphocytes Usually Im considered somewhat immunocomprimised Curious to what this means in this case though|1 Regarding the financial aspect are they flying with Air Canada AC actually has a decent policy on right now for once that allows you to cancel a flight at no charge and apply the full amount to future travel within a year I just did it this morning online took about 5 minutes|0 Australia 250 cases 3 Deaths There is no outbreak like we have seen in chilly climates China Italy Washington State and Iran|1 Yeah I am But as I said his positioning was badAlso I cant believe that was 2017 it feels like last week lol|1 Puerto Rico went on lock down this weekend Hopefully others will follow very soon|1 Thats the reason countries like Taiwan or HK dont see a huge spike in their cases everyone wears a mask|1 Embarrassing|0 Nah theyve always dropped the ball httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfgjbe8therealityisthattheusneverhadagoodtrackutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare|0 Yup that is exactly it Its also why he says things like I dont know him about people either in his administration or interacting with the administration Plausible deniability He wants Pence to be the face of this as much as possible|1 Is this an actual city council member and did he refute this story Sorry dont have time to follow up on each claim|0 Thats even worse that means they were likely both exposing people for 10 days before isolation Proclaiming on international news that they have it isolated seems incredibly premature at this stage|0 It was sent to me by a friend on the Arkansas Missouri border I think she and many others did report it|1 A long time ago my son used it for math but he didnt use it for English There were also many different subjects I thought looked interesting|1 I sure hope so|1 official twitter shows tests conducted and confirmed caseshttpsmobiletwittercomDHSCgovukstatus1234116178068549633utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf stupid how this website isnt on the government website for old people to access not everyones parents and grandparents have twitter so they rely on the governments website its a shame its being handled like this|0 until they end up sick on the vent with severe ARDS and on a rotobed Then they will wish they had a mask|0 pops head out of bunkerDi did we win|1 Thats not what contractors usually means in a software dev context Hard to tell|0 No way i felt sick last week but my father too nothing unusual for early spring or late winter rain and coldhot air weakens immune systems and humidity is the perfect breeding ground for illnesses However i live next to a regional hospital in Hungary and it was just revealed Budapest could be full of infected with noone realizing it With under 1 mortality rate in people under 50 or something and under 70 it is still like 6 OF KNOWN CASES so if we add asymptomatics it could be much better Im worrying about older folks in my family but thank fuck i dont have to about my nephews and nieces at least|0 Reasonably logically you know its going to be bad but you also know that theres nothing you can really do to not catch it beyond locking yourself indoors for the next 6 months Theres no reasonable responses here beyond justcontinue life until it becomes impossible to continue|0 Its just the flu business as usual wash yer hands keep transmission hotspots like schools universities and public transport open allow public gatherings of any number oh also surgical masks dont do anything for the public but its essential for medical staff treating COVID 19 patients to reduce transmission The government is still in denial because they dont wanna cause public disorder etc|0 How do you now suddenly get that but you clearly made the statement that they should be fucking ashamed You cant have your cake and eat it tooPerson A is a piece of shitPerson A did nothing wrongI get that but dont you feel like other persons are pieces of shitAlright dude|0 How about taking steps to protect the fucking American people|1 and dont forget about all the poo particles that hang on ever time you take your phone into the bathroom|1 Nice|1 Gates did say its seriuos and he wants a vaccineBuffet said its scary but hes not going to sell his stock for itHavent heard anything from Musk though|0 Fucking hell |0 Thanks|1 Um are you sure Source|1 Yes Everyone on this sub for sure My fucking parents keep giving stats compared to the flu My dads a type 2 diabetic ffs you think hed be a bit more aware of the potential issues this could cause him|1 you guys are donelol This is just getting started Just watch things will get better from here|1 To be fair do u have evidence its real|1 Why not both incompetent and overwhelmed|1 Thats correct and wish you the best of luck|1 FINALLY SOME GOOD FUCKING NEWS|1 Just an opinion Not misinformation|1 This pandemic is not doing wonders for the mentally ill among usTake care of your loved ones a moment to skyoe or face time them or else theyll end up on reddit being rudeEdit ill not Ill|1 Closing down the borders would make no sense as the circulation of the virus is not just limited to administrative borders junior transport minister JeanBaptiste Djebbari told Frances BFM television network|0 russia is not a developed country and if the virus gets bad there it will probably quickly descend into chaos|0 Dear Deutchlanders American here I absolutely love your beautiful country And people Please dont judge us all by the few in power who do not speak for the majority of us The base greed and sociopathy of this stunt is shameful|1 ESICM European Society of Intensive Care Medicine|1 I think thats assuming such a special medical facilitycompound exists is clean and properly staffed Sadly Im beginning to think thats not a possibility|1 Its allergy season where I am so its harder to tell if anyone is truly sick or just coughingsneezing because of allergies like I am|1 This is not good news still 15 not recovered is not good at all|0 Were too busy trying to stay alive to spit on images of xi dada |1 If you look at data outside hubei the province where virus outbreak at You can see a death rate of 09 similar as SK Other health factors really dont matter|0 Dont we have super computers that can do this Im really busy|0 yeahwe should probably all just kill ourselves so that nothing gets us first|0 This will help somewhat with US China relations Trump screaming this is all Chinas fault will not|0 Lol fucking terrorist organization holy shit|0 Ill find a need to fill somewhere We all have to pitch in a little Im hesitant about going to stores because of high risk but I could run their errandslike drop utility payments off or pick up their meds in a drive thru maybe feed their animals|0 I was refused service in my local corner shop for wearing mine The same shop where they always drop your change into your hand from 2 inches up so they dont risk touching your hand|1 Found some good ones for like 400 on amazon|1 Its about why someone would find the word Chinese racist while others might be confused and see it only as a descriptor|0 Just created rDeniedCovidTesting|1 Press murder charges against these fucks|0 Thank you Wow my state has tested 8 total Pathetic|1 i really wish i could understand what you are trying to say |1 I highly doubt 50 of the US population is going to be infected|0 I also agree especially since one of the rules says to only use reliable sources|1 It was If you watch any of the air accident shows Why Planes Crash Air Emergencies MAYDAY Air Disasters its essentially always user error Flying when you shouldnt be refusing to ask for instructions or admit to a gap in knowledge pride refusal to acknowledge a mistake pride fear of being the one to point out a problemcause a delayask for help They had to have a whole culture shift in the flight industry in the late 80s because it was revealed that in a tremendous number of crashes the copilotfirst officerwhoever knew there was a problem andor what to do They either didnt say anything or said something too late because of the toxic fucking cockpit culture of captain is god The culture shift to everyone is an essential member of the team if you see something incorrect say something led to the incredibly safe industry we have today Operating roomshospitals actually followed suit even borrowing some of the same language because they had the exact same problem with surgeondoc is god No joke there were MANY cases of doctors doing grossly incorrect things like operating on the wrong arm or doing the wrong procedure entirely hernia repair for appendicitis and the staff knowingly watched it happen because they were so terrified of saying anything How fucked is that Ego is a hell of a thingI know you didnt ask about any of this lol I just think its interesting|0 Heres a sneak peek of rstocks using the top postshttpsnpredditcomrstockstopsorttoptyear of the year1 If I could go back in time 20 years I never would have started trading Remorse of a previous investorhttpsnpredditcomrstockscommentsex6qujificouldgobackintime20yearsineverwould 2 Elon Musk plans to bring out IPO for SpaceXs Starlink project that intends to beam high speed broadband from space all over the globehttpsnpredditcomrstockscommentsezx2o8elonmuskplanstobringoutipoforspacexs 3 Netflix was the bestperforming stock of the decade delivering a more than 4000 returnhttpsnpredditcomrstockscommentseekwginetflixwasthebestperformingstockoftheIm a bot beep boop Downvote to remove Contact mehttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetosneakpeekbot Infohttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbot Optouthttpsnpredditcomrsneakpeekbotcommentsciakteblacklistvi|0 Ive been eating my boogers from the day I turnes 2 years old to prepare my immune system for this virus|1 I can buy zinc at Walmart right nowAnd you can look at the ingredients of zycam if you wishActive ingredients in each tablet Zincum aceticum 2x Zincum gluconicum 1x Inactive Ingredients ascorbic acid crospovidone FDC yellow no 6 aluminum lake magnesium stearate mannitol monoammonium glycyrrhizinate natural and artificial flavor sodium starch glycolate stearic acid sucraloseZincum aceticum 2x is 1 part zinc acetate per 10 parts waterZincum gluconicum 1x is 1 part zinc per 100 parts waterThey dont even disclose how much zinc that is per melt but supposedly its 10mgMeanwhile some super cheap Walmart zinc will get you 30mg per tab and you get 100 tabs for 4 vice 25 tabs for 10 of zycam|1 Well none of us has confidence in the WH so where does that leave us|1 Thank you Can you point me to a schedule I know that that was what was said by I havent been able to find any specifics|1 Yes its there if you look for it Its not on my news feed google search Apple news etc and tv broadcasts are very brief and uninformative Does no one else think thats odd|0 This isnt a good argument The same people who would t like Atlanta would not like Washington DC either|1 Or maybe the famous people are full of shit trying to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Truth be told Question 1 is a bit above my pay grade As for 2 and 3 Rosetta seems to be more CPU oriented while Folding is GPU oriented Many of these home tasks are optimized for CUDA but will work on AMDs However FoldingHome will not recognize AMD GPUs on OSXHope that helps|1 COVID19 in Colorado What to do if you suspect you have symptomsIsolate yourself then call your health provider before going to doctors office or ERPosted Mar 10 2020 Updated Mar 10 2020On Wednesday the CDPHE will open a driveup lab at their Lowry facility 8100 E Lowry Blvd in Denver that will allow people who have a doctors note to be tested for the virus But that last part is key Only people with a doctors note can be tested at the driveup facilityOther current criteria that people need to be meet in order to be tested are People have fever or symptoms of a lower respiratory illness and have been in contact with someone confirmed to have the virus within 14 days of the onset of symptoms People have fever or symptoms of a lower respiratory illness have had other diagnoses ruled out and recently traveled to an area with high infection rates within 14 days of becoming symptomatic People have a severe acute respiratory illness such as pneumonia that requires hospitalization and has no other explained diagnosisColorado governor declares state of emergency to increase COVID19 testing implement paid sick leavehttpswwwthedenverchannelcomnewsnationalcoronaviruscovid19incoloradowhattodoifyoususpectyouhavesymptoms|0 Even better try to do your shopping during a weekend eveningnight if your schedule will allow Hardly anyone at my neighborhood market around 10pm|1 Im sorry but this is incorrect There is no such thing as a CFR of confirmed cases By formal definition CFR is of resolved cases Please do not suggest that the CFR is 12 simply because cases have not been resolved That is irresponsible While early hopes had been that the CFR would be in that range more recent papers are expecting that to be on the low end If you look at worldwide resolved cases even if you exclude China and calculate only for the developed world the CFR looks much more grim As for the daily updates from China I sincerely hope that no one actually accepts them at face value Even the Chinese have admitted that they were only able to diagnose as many people as they had test kitsand that they had nowhere near enough test kits when the disease began And that doesnt even take into account the CCPs history of dishonesty|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 sent that to my friend ironically just the last few days i have been trying to push her to cancel their servicesfinally the church they use space from are doing the same so maybe she will wake up and realize i was trying to help warn her ahead of time and shell thank me instead of getting mad and we can come to a truce and figure out ways to help encourage the community online during this timeyeaaaaaaaaaaah or shell just keep getting mad at me and ill have to go email the pastor of the main church to suggest to him to tell them to cancel their services because i dont want them to get sick or risk spreading it to otherssighs hey i tried|0 Well select states anyhow Florida over here like We are open for business|1 The government has already acknowledged that with 20 of the force off on sick leave at any one time they will have to prioritise certain police activities I think that ensuring isolation is stuck too would be an important part of that|0 I hope not because my parents did not allow me to get enough food to last that long I have like two weeks worth of food That was my limit according to them|1 Thats why they 14 day quarantine when you need to be dam sure|1 Banned Yah chinaflu and coronavirus|0 as a chinese i want to tell you that not only the test is freebut all the health care and treatment are free for those patients|1 Your point is dead on OP If you take the possible scenario that 60 of the US is infected this year and that 20 of those infected require ICU care that is a number that would easily overwhelm US hospital capacityEveryone make sure you dont have heart attack in 2020 mmmmkay|0 America checking in here bro Im just bothered by your blame others attitude since it fixes literally nothing right now|0 When no groceries to buy bullets are next on the shopping list|0 thank you Take care|1 I think the US citizens not our governments or POLITICANS or not an OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE BUT OUR CITIZENS needs to each allocate time and discovering how our government is spending money from local state county and federal levels Maybe implement a reward system for citizens who discover embezzlements and over billing of government resources As the most heavily armed citizens of the world we have the most say of our government I believe our citizens have forgotten that For years the US government and media have conditioned us to believe that the government had everything under control I think this last two weeks the US citizens realized that was all bullshit politicians of all levels philanthropists grants foundations and both political parties have been robbing tax payers for the last 30 yearsInnovative companies and partners of the government have been outsourcing everything to China and charging tax payers 50x Ill give you the greatest example for years weve accused China of stealing our IP but the only security our government websites and servers have is a THIS WEBSITE IS PROPERTY OF THE US GOVERNMENT AND ONLY AUTHORIZEd while the server is full of vulnerabilities because politicians outsourced the work and pocketed the rest For anyone who has seen the show on Gabriel Fernandez we should all be asking why did they even charge 4 employees of the childrens department of safety who were basically setup to fail to begin with If you believe that anything touched by the government is done badly its because they hire incompetent people at every level besides the top for only one reason SO NO ONE IS BRIGHT ENOUGH TO NOTICE THEIR ROBBING THE BUDGET BLIND|0 China numbers probably true CCP TrollChina numbers false virus 10x stronger than reported InfoWars deplorableWest at risk DoomerWest not a risk Idiot etcIn short things are developing a lot in the last days and everyone is trying to cope with new information that might or might not fit with their previously held beliefs which causes say friction|1 For the sake of your mental health Im just gonna hope youre trolling|1 Dr Yoshihiro Takayama MD who let Dr Iwata in the ship rebutted Hes also specialized in infectious disease Now we got 3 people in the picture Dr Iwata Dr Takayama and the vice minister Hashimoto Its good to hear from both sideBasically Dr Takayama said theres already decision making process in place and Dr Iwata would be allowed to work so long as he would be the part of the processThe selfdefence force the medical and the government team was already in preparation of releasing the passengers of Diamond Princess Dr Takayama wanted Dr Iwata to grasp where they were in the process and develop the trust in the team but Dr Iwata just started his own quarantine work right away that resulted him removed after 2hrsDr Takayam didnt deny Dr Iwata in terms of scientific facts nor his willingness to help and intention However Dr Takayama did mention that Dr Iwata disrupted process Dr Takayama also mentioned there are medical professionals including Dr Takayama himselfhttpsmfacebookcomstoryphpstoryfbid2703278763058947id100001305489071httpsmfacebookcomstoryphpstoryfbid2703278763058947id100001305489071|1 These people shouldve been given tickets to a new flight No airline should risk the safety of its passengers that includes both people from wuhan and the others Imagine if things got physical Its not a particularly safe time for someone from wuhan to be out and about|0 The virus is 100 airborne Being in the same room as an infected will create exposure you dont even need to touch anything theyve touchedWatch the joe rogan interview with the epidemiologist|0 There was that joke post httpswwwredditcomrpicscommentsf3umxaourvalentinesinchinacoronabeercoronation January about corona corona beer crowns coronation chicken etc from Chinese woman white man couple that reached front page and got many awards and anyone like me who said it was in very poor taste especially as she was shitting on her own people got heavily downvoted now hopefullyMore people realise what absolute fools these jokesters areEdit I thought She deleted the post httpswwwredditcomrpicscommentsf3umxaourvalentinesinchinacoronabeercoronation but someone also reposted hererChinacommentsf41vm2ourvalentinesinchinacoronabeercoronationIt was on Valentines Day in China titledCorona beer coronation chicken pandemic board game contagion movie and other shit like thatThe Chinese woman account ulapluie she funny insulting coronavirus victims|0 I got massacred for posting this yesterday and marking it unverified Fear mongering|0 My position on this is that it is bad if we fail to control it and halt its exponential growthChina has managed to control it which is very promising but most first world countries dont have the will to take the drastic measures China did and most third world countries dont have the resourcesIf it does become widespread as the H1N1 flu did then its going to be a nightmare|0 A lot of people my age dont realise how much pneumonia sucks you feel like your lungs are being ripped from your chest you feel like youre going to pass out from coughing so much and youve got the lung capacity of Darth Vader|1 Good for you Im kinda close to there My wife and I own a business for kids and were totally out when schools get closed I can work extra hours at my other job I dont interact with people at work and we can dip in the savings if we have to close our business for a month|1 Thank you so much|1 I work at a liquor store in the Midwest The last 3 days has been the busiest Ive ever seen it Its been a shit show Apparently people are stocking up on TP and alcohol Not looking forward to todays numbers Expecting it to be worse since its Saturday|0 The US suicide doctors or cardiac arrest doctors so that they will never be able to tell the truth lmao|0 Hes a dumbass spreading that shit to everyone|0 wow did you figure this out yourself |1 I just checked and things I was called doomer enjoying panic etc for 1 saying R0 is higher than that of the flu2 saying mortality is higher than the flu3 saying that it will spread in other countries silently because of characteristics of the virus4 saying it will only start showing up in testing in countries when people get really unwell 5 that there is H2H transmission6 saying that it will show up in EUIts actually funny and I dont count even statements I agreed with of other people who were called enjoying panic because of looking at the data without wishful thinking but with the cold logic and preparationproblem solving attitude If youd like to be intellectually honest you cannot dismiss a perspective as spreading panic without evaluating the evidence provided because you will develop a bias For everyone who has some knowledge in the field this virus this as the one who can become a pandemic was coming for a long time The only facepalm I have about my predictions is that half a year ago I started mask producing company but never worked on it due to lack of time|1 Your friend is so weird Come Shanghai Lets talk politics in KFC|1 Im sure that shes doing a good job for the most part but I had to disagree with this partWe check the video source I also look at the background because its winter in China now and when I see trees with green leaves or people with Tshirts on the street I know its not accurate That video could have been in the southern part of China which in winter is pretty warm I mean you can google what the temperature was in Wuhan in February this year it was 5060 F for the whole month That was not a good reason to rule out the video as fake news|1 Philadelphia PA here Absolute Panic Honestly waiting for a lockdown at this point|0 I wouldnt like to be the first person to try it but I guess youre open to anything when your critically ill|0 Nah wouldnt make a difference I live in a student residence with roommates who dgaf Going to try to ride this thing out |0 he was way nicer in the comics|1 Ok but you can say that without saying Singapore and HK arent islands|1 Sure youre not a sith emperor|1 Doesnt matter where the anger should be placed when peoples lives are at stake Do what will save lives now and point fingers later|0 It seems the plan for care homes is whoever is on shift at the moment of quarantine or if a case is confirmed will be on lock down and that team will stay on site and work 247 through the whole thing with no relief Off shift team will have no shifts so unsure whether they will be paid or not People are bringing in overnight bags just in case Its getting scary|0 They havent admitted it but one of the Chief Medical Officers said that the strategy had similarities to herd immunity They basically need it to get to a certain point before they enter lockdown|1 Thats fine Link back so that I can check it outEdit you can leave the name in I dont care|0 Jesus Christ this is a shit take|0 Our schools here in Ontario were closed as of Thursday and colleges and universities followed suit Leadership in the US still doesnt seem to understand the risk of spread and how flattening the curve will help save lives I hope they close soon for your sake the kids sake and their families|1 From Latvia here we have a school spring break next week today the government announced a state of emergency and all schools will be required to switch to distance learning or close down after that spring break Currently its for a month but well see It will be hard to adapt the education process within a week but well its probably possible as far as I understand multiple Asian countries managed to do thisPreschools will be open but will admit kids only if they and their parents have not traveled in last 14 days and have not been in contact with known patients ie if youre on a contact list the selfquarantine isnt currently enforced but your kids wont be accepted in kindergarten|1 Im not blindly listening to the media but if the mainstream media tells me such a and such a person is dead I tend to believe them Its not like they were even misleading people They made an editorial error|0 Yea I saw that Crazy|0 How many people caught swine flu httpsenwikipediaorgwikiSwineinfluenzaHistoryProtip NobodyJesus there are so many stupid people posting here|0 Im calculating the Death Recovery rates based on the Closed CasesI think i should just remove this because there doesnt seem to be a concrete way of calculating these numbers for every country|0 Great news Stay safe brother and sisters in Korea Hope those infected get well soon|1 I hope youre right but I think in a wuhan scenario theyd mowing down dissenters We wouldnt be regular opposition wed be viewed as potential disease spreaders in need of containment Monitored containment not pinky promise stay on your own land containment Im not into conspiracy theories but dont doubt the US government would do the same and seal areas off in an attempt to slow the spread of a virus Lock us in let it burn out to try and save some part of the country They wouldnt have many other options Im not super worried about this round of Coronavirus causing this here but theres a lot of bugs out there and lots of reasons its never a bad idea to stay prepared|1 Yeah I found out about that sub around the time that it became officially known about the camps for muslims Like weve known for a while but it was finally getting mainstream coverage a couple months ago The shit that was shared there at the time was mind blowing they look at the entire rest of the world as brain washed no way is it that China is brainwashed or the government is actively lying to them No way at all its the entire rest of the world thats got it wrong|0 Really Wow I am so glad to hear that Thanks for letting me know|1 Please shift Canada in to that grouping to and maybe just make it an Americas sans USA flair USA is just going to flood out any other news posts it gets grouped with|1 There is no reason for the wholesaler not having moreThis thing is easy to make all ingredients are abundant its just 90 alcohol with glycerin and hydrogen peroxide|1 Didnt the coach of a prominent soccer club asks a reporter why is he being asked about he Coronavirus instead of doctors and scientists httpswwwredstatecomsistertoldjah20200304videosoccercoachteachesmediaimportantlessononwhytheyshouldntaskhimcoronavirusquestionsThis pretty much sums up my reaction to this Harvard MDWTF|1 The truth is that were all fucked and the majority of Americans are going to get sick in the next few months The CDC is trying to minimize panic so society doesnt grind to a hault Other than not leaving your house for a few months theres nothing anyone can do|0 No joke call your mayors office state and national senator too Document this thoroughly You can also write to their offices and carbon copy a local news agency if itll make you feel better|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 This is my understanding after watching hours of testimony Its because the US does not have large quantities of the machinery to do highthroughput testing like Korea does We built our Covid19 testing system on the existing Flutest machines used in the USA everyone has these machines but they need to be done manually and you can only run one test at a time we dont have the machinery in the US to utilize Koreas tests even if we wanted to This is why Dr Fauci said today that our system is not built for this and is failing us in this moment|0 If youre not willing to be detained for a short fucking while because youre a disease vector for an impending pandemic youre a fucking sociopath|0 Yes good thing I dont have to pay any federal taxes Oh wait|1 Turn him into fucking Pinocchio with all the lies he told|0 So is the only way to treat sever cases to put them on a ventilator and hope they fight it off themselves|1 Please dont tap your forehead we need you to be safe and not touch your face|1 The healthcare system has been broken for all but the richest people but most people that Ive talked to doesnt see it that way even as America consistently ranks low in world healthcare rankings I hope this is a wake up call for most peopleHope all goes well with your father Stay safe and hope we all get through this in one piece|1 Well in the ICU it usually means not good things when we say it But its a state of being Its the process of going upstate but we can still potentially keep em alive on a vent and three pressors|1 Kill rate is like 25 I think and its mostly the elderly Your fine and your anxiety is only going to worsen it Go to the doc if you need to|0 Well this says that trump is addressing the public concerning thisWashington state specifically today at 3 That will make our decision I think|1 Yeah like the guy below you said I see this as eventually hopefully not coming down to where we are stuck in our homes But the way its planning out and with how slowly our leaders are getting there its going to take some time So I grabbed some stuff early not as much as in a nuclearbunker reaction but more of like a realization that every hurricane that comes some of this stuff is hard to find But a while ago Im not too worried about finding stuff later if necessary but lets be honest out of any gov out there we can expect the least amount of help from out leaders Bc of that having 23 mo of food on hand isnt insane its realizing that no one else is coming to save the day if SHTF|1 He is a elderly Of course younger people are more panicked|0 Im ok with thisThere needs to be a place on an island like they had for the plague where criminals and infected that broke quarantine were sent to in order to keep them from the public I believe even Typhoid Mary had to be forcefully isolated because she kept taking shits and not washing hands while making food|0 What do you mean He only told my husband because they are close friends|1 also pretty sure this was an episode of House MD lol|1 Dont invite a bunch of unclean spirits into your life or your childrens life with yoga please look into it Expects downvotes but whatever|1 Yea like it almost had some sort of calming effect|1 The Guardian is a tabloid You mean a Newspaper of RecordThe Newspaper of Record in the UK is The Times The papers considered authoritative are also The Telegraph Sunday Telegraph and The Sunday TimesGuardian is commonly perceived a stupid persons idea of a serious newspaper The Guardian is considered a sensationalist tabloid rag for the lower middle classes|0 Maybe you are but not all your friends and family Basically what you are saying to implement natural selection in its purest form fuck all people who are sick or weak|0 I dont see this working in the US at all at least for prescriptions What pharmacy is just gonna be like ok here is an entire neighborhoods worth of meds Ill give to one person who isnt related to the prescribed patient And then not collecting cash from Neighbors for the meds or groceries|1 Oh my I really hope that they will be ok You should prepare some law information This way if they get stuck in another cruise ship nightmare they can prepare their lawsuit I believe now they are considering halting all cruises|1 lmao any idiot can buy a 12 year old reddit account on the deep web or find someone to buy it off ofmy account is 12 years old wow way to really validate that you arent a CCP shill you literally just told us the new game buy old accounts so people think you arent a shill|1 No theyre not Those who give up and use it as an excuse will but those who make an effort and persevere will come out unscathed and be at quite an advantage over the rest Landlords letting agents and mortgage lenders will see this distinction|1 So if Trump gets Corona we know Pence will with all that ass kissing|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC6617416 While this study is for community acquired pneumonia it indicates that using nsaids disrupt the lungs immunological response to an infection You can do what you want but if I had a lower respiratory infection I would steer clear of nsaids|1 Im fine now and have been for over 2 weeks|1 A virus that can evolve multiple strains and reinfect you that does not seem to have any immunity developement and thus can be seasonal like a flu and a CFR of currently 59 Yeah if that turns out to be true this would absolutely obliterate the population and permanently change how we live|0 Im pretty sure nothing will change your view point frankly life is too short Cheers|1 I think there are two issuesThe first is that COVID is very similar to the flu Enough so that I cant discount the possibility that earlier incidents were folded into the flu season This is to say nothing of the mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic carriersThe second is that some of the at risk demographic may not send up alarm bells right away Someone who is elderly or infirm passing from respiratory distress may not have the same sort of danger flags as a young healthy person Now we actively test and look around but maybe before we just missed itI dont know how far it got before quarantine but Id guess that the virus had been spreading for at least a few weeks before Especially given the incubation period and variety of noncritical symptoms We might be hitting critical mass now as we do more testing|0 Just like when he said that insurance companies would waive all testing and treatment charges Then the insurance companies piped up and clarified they would only cover the cost of testing knowing damn well no one can get tested in the first place|0 Its not much more than a flu although not just a flu Just follow quarantine procedures and avoid crowds where you can there really isnt much we can do and if anything this should serve as a wakeup call to what could happen were this a serious disease spreading this easily with us so woefully unprepared|0 Sure it is for doctors Not for laymen to look at every overweight person and assume that they have diabetes|0 Fuck off He stripped every major measure put into place from Obama to help prevent and prepare for exactly this kind of problem You can blame him for how bad this is gonna get|0 Man what is going on in FL Is there a coronavirus subreddit thats actually active for that state|1 Judging by what was going on in Ukraine by the time this goes turn 1 around the world mob will be much bigger threat than the actual flu|0 As funny is to this|1 Chemical gas isnt a thing just a massively broad category The various gases used in Iran Iraq war certainly caused severe respiratory problems along with many other problems Look up the effects of sarin and mustard gases|0 Macau too We even have all recreation facilities like parks museums libraries all close until further notice Even close all casinos and some hotels Some parks have reopen now since there are no new cases for 3 weeks already You are from China and wanna come to Macau If you work here you go straight to quarantine for 2 weeks first and go back to work You travelling Yeah wait at this arena for 6 to 8 hours to see if you have taken any pills to reduce your fever You dont wanna wait Doors that way show yourself out of Macau You from HK Same treatment yo From Hubei Lol gtfo|1 I dont mean to be rude or offensive but this example reflects American focus the election Not the pandemic about to spread like wildfire|1 Unlimited UNPAID Like thanks for not firing me for being sick I guess Still need to pay my bills though|1 Thats not the point There is a big anomaly in the data sets which is unexplained and needs to be explained Nobody suggests smoking as a mitigation strategy we dont even know what causes that anomaly it could be something completely else also smokers die more often and are more often seriously ill if they get it But it sticks out and is pretty extreme And it is in many studies This needs to be investigated as such an anomaly for other data points would also be If people with diabetes would be significantly less often in the samples this would also be interesting and needed to be looked at and nobody would suggest this might gaslight people to get diabetes as fast as possible to protect themselves|0 Fine Ive got some lingering sinus stuff going on but its not bad at all But like I said I wasnt that sick to begin with I was mainly just really tired and felt ill even though I hardly had any symptoms of being sick|1 OMG No words|0 Can you like a basketball team because the owner is freaking awesome|1 Yeah I dont trust that One person was turned away saying they didnt have enough covid19 to warrant testing I will try to find that source and post here|0 They are my teachers I am a student of West China Medical School which is one of the best medical schools in China And Im proud of them|1 Its 50x higher than even this Wait two weeksAt the health food store I work at you can only take 2 days off sick without a doctors noteMedical and covered California are BOTH unavailable if you make the amount someone making minimum wage full time makesSo multiple people have been coming in sick It only took that person coming in once and I stayed far away for me to get it She was sick as a dog having to sit down every five minutesWe get about five hundred customers a day and I would bet that everyone who works there is infected by now or within a week and because of that half of more customers will become infected Nobody has any immunity to this illness because its newThats just one grocery store|0 You just described my own state I had the same symptoms few days ago Itchy throat Mild fever Nose congested Body ache Felt like shit Fever goes Runny nose and congestion continues|0 Welp Fuck Nordstrom|0 Ive been jokingly calling it the Chinese super aids and everyone knows exactly what Im talking about|1 Really weird logical thing to say|0 Unfortunate accidentMysterious disappearance in 3 2 1|0 They dont allow you to have bees in here|0 As an immunocompromised asthmatic FUCK fuck fuck fuck|0 Closing the border now is something we can at least control and plan around Hemming and hawing until we become the next Italy will send us scrambling Close it to all but essential commercial traffic and implement strict screening measures The US shit the bed with their response and theres good reason to believe their numbers are artificially low due to lack of testingReturning travelers who left before the closure must undergo mandatory testing and quarantine until negative or recovered Quit wavering and making halfmeasures shut the door now|0 Also take into consideration the fact that we are ahead of the death curve just like South Korea and Italy and we also have definitely been misdiagnosing deaths for at least several weeks now as death by Pneumonia and just plain unknown causes|0 Youre raging in the wrong subreddit love|0 And here people were blaming China for their shit response a month ago In truth there is no way a non authoritarian government could pull this off Which is why the I believe the US Outbreak will be worse|0 theyre desperate and need to test the vaccine what can they do tbh|0 especially older people with underlying issuesThis sounds familiar 45 of people who contract it will be fine 45 of people arent elderly andor have underlying issues|1 Im a type 2 diabetic and I only have 15 working lungs due to multiple pulmonary embolisms a couple years ago and Im on blood thinners for life and over 50 Im kind of worried about this one because I tick three or four potential risk factor boxesOh and I am in the USEdit Thanks to all for the well wishes|1 No I totally get it You are scared You work in IT so are a control freak but outside of your comfort zone when its a complex system problem and you have no control You have a higher degree so your academic ego makes you want to parade as an expert but you are not a mature scholar as you would put your ego to one side and recognise that the CMO and CSO are far better qualified better informed and placed to make the call as to what is best for the nation Still despite me being correct you will not recognise your character flaws and will let your fear and ego override better judgement So yes I get it I also take my hat off to the CMO and CSO for doing a near impossible job when selfimportant fearful jerks like yourself panic and sound off on the internet|1 I know right drove me crazy|0 Thank you for these updates icy Please be vigilant and stay safe|1 You arent immune I never said that Im just saying that Corona for young people is like a potent flu Its very low chance of dying|0 Yep rLeopardsAteMyFace candidate for a lot of stuff|1 Not following it too closely but would I be right in saying singapore is handling it quite well Seem to be pretty open with information|1 Something good came out of the virus|1 Shortterm yes But longterm Id argue they require the same things widespread and frequent testing contact tracing and quarantine How else are people supposed to safely get back to work without causing wave after wave until theres a vaccine Thats assuming that the virus hasnt mutated too much for it to be effective by then Otherwise here we are bumbling around until everybody has had it with 20 million dead and many millions more with longterm effects|1 me too please|1 I literally named each different product This is literally how conversations work The person youre conversing with literally gets to add more information Literally literally insert something bold italicized for dramatic effect I never said they were made for surgery or claimed Clorox did I used surgery as a sarcastic way to demonstrate a pointIn any case what we know is you are literally correct manufacturers instructions should always be followed even if contradictory and inconsistent|0 Just heard 204 confirmed cases now in Korea How are you and your family holding up If you havent yet now might be a good time to start stocking up 12 months worth of food and medicine Any update from your government|1 Great news Must be a pretty good treatment if its going to be standard operating procedure|1 Oh let him get it so he might do something really helpful|1 Marshall Dillon gonna be in the streetsMarshall Mathers MMs for everyone Marshall Tucker Everyone has to listen to Fire on the Mountain over and overwait a minute|0 People who are looking at the p word as an excuse to spread panicjust dont It helps no one and will make the situation worse|0 This will get buried but I got Legionnaires disease this year which led to a nasty nasty case of pneumonia Im in my 30s healthy and not a smoker I was in the hospital for a week and almost put in the ICU multiple times The whole thing is terrifying to me because I thought I had the flu until I woke up and my lipstoes and fingers were blue The downplaying of the symptoms is crazy to me|0 Ive seen reports that the virus can cause long term damage Need to find the links|0 I trust the Chinese numbers to be correct within an order of magnitudeOnly in that given that only 22 on the cruise ship got it which makes me think that such draconian quarantine really should have stopped progression The only question is how bad was the situation when they enacted those policies but even there I feel it would have been early on when their hospitals hit Italys point nowThat combined with the WHO report that use other metrics to provide confidence in numbers makes me think that after the initial silence and misinformation they really did come fairly clean Because you cant really lie about exponential growth for long|1 I figure the treatment is supportive ventilation and vasopressors needed if they are septic Sort of following the treatment plans for sepsis and ards I would say there is no widely known empirical evidence treatment plan other than this that will give the patient a better outcome|1 I should probably correct that approximately 20 of confirmed cases end up in ICU and permanent lung damagetesticular damage has been reported so it should be 1 in 5 go to hospital hope youve had babies and your fill of running before you did|0 Women in the West have been conditioned to believe that everything should be free and easy and there is nothing bad in the world and its all unicorns and lollipops and anyone who disagrees is some kind of a nut Our society has effectively domesticated a very large percentage of the population women especially Let her watch her Netflix shows and sip her wine When the shit hits the fan she wont be sneering at you anymore|1 This is how important testing is and misunderstood how easy thus virus spreads This whole millions of tests is pointless if barely 1000 tests are processed a day|1 Ive been drinking hand sanitizer it might kill me but dammit if Im gonna let that Coronavirus win|1 Ok seems reasonable|1 Saw that study as well fascinating|1 Never thought Id get turned on over toilet roll Nicky too Not even the good stuffI feel dirty|0 Right and lets face it even while going through this shit theyve still been supplying us with all our needs albeit at a slower rate|0 They had a soft quarantine and extensive contact tracing Everyone who has visited Hubei was interviewed and tested for symptoms by local departments Everyone who has been in touch with someone positive was traced and monitored for symptoms More importantly anyone with symptoms are tested and isolated|1 not saying it would be easy but it could work|1 We too have a flight to Lisbon on Thursday Pretty close to pulling the plug on it Hoping they cancel it so Im holding out until the last minute I will lose 600 bucks as it stands|1 I do that here in the US as well|1 Same I was supposed to travel to Asia this Sunday and I am shocked at how many people think Im overreacting by canceling my ticket because Im young and healthy and am more likely to catch the flu and die here in the states|0 Trader Joes in Orange County California freezer sections are empty except for chocolate flavored Mochi ice cream No canned food left one lonely crumpled box of multigeain pita crisps|0 I thought the way Wuhan did this was smart order and pay via an app doorstep delivery The business survives|1 Some of us keep a pretty large supply on hand because if we dont have power we dont have water And because were in the Midwest we get some shitty winter weather followed by shitty storm season both of which routinely knock out power for a few hours to a couple of days|0 Honestly not sure Id WANT to know If I have a fever Im staying home But I think Id rather not know what is causing the fever or I would panic Especially since Im 27 and healthy with SEVERE anxiety|0 Yeah thats like one city|1 Excuse me|1 If only we could shoot the virus|0 They want the end times If they dont wake up itll be their end times You need to be concerned about you even though you have admirable compassion which I admire and share You cant cure stupidity God in all hisherits forms helps people who help themselves|1 I hope this is the case But the thing is its been growing at about the same amount every day in terms of raw numbers which leads me to wonder how much is just testing capacity But you would think that the infection control measures in China must be having some effect at this point|1 Can you provide a source for this please|1 Depends on what kind of regulations With the manpower they have and an authoritarian government they absolutely can enforce whatever regulation if they really want tbh They probably just dont deem the enforcement of those regulations a high priority And unfortunately speaking as someone who lived in China years ago some Chinese people often try to skirt or ignore regulations if they think they can get away with it So the authorities probably dont want to waste the manpower to curb all of themHowever given this recent outbreak I think they will treat this particular matter very seriously and maybe even mete out extreme punishment to anyone they find still illegally selling wild life|0 Bro I hate to break this to you but its very likely those Virus deaths will be in addition to those yearly deaths at the very least Best case it will be like twice as many people died|1 What can we do to reduce risk on domestic airline flights and at major airports in affected regions ATL SFO etc|0 Sad but true I hope we come put of this a better functioning society than when we went in Pandemics love the media|1 I feel very privileged reading this and thinking that 35k would not be a life changing sum for me|1 Thats the handy thing about religion I guess There can never be a gotcha moment like that Thats not how these things work|1 I think this is a wise decision because even if the virus never goes full Spanish Flu we will still bear the economic consequences for a long time You dont want to have a kid in the middle of a recesion|1 ally be a pretty good idea They have rooms and working electricity Facilities for food also and storage You could move medical equipment on the ship easilyYou cant pay nurses that are sick with COVID or dead|0 Yep I called 811 last night after being sick for a week with mild symptoms that were getter worse I developed a fever and my lungs feel awful They refused testing and didnt even tell me to self isolate Thankfully I have been self isolating since I started feeling sick though but I think thats why even if you feel a bit sick you should stay home|0 We have been waiting over a week for test results from the possible first confirmed case in Spokane wa from community spread We were promised results last Monday and at first they kept updating saying the results would be delayed and now they completely stopped with any updates since 4 days ago and there is NO news at all about when the results will be released I am LIVID that they think they can get away with just not updating the public and just fucking give us radio silence|0 They allowed everyone a possibility to take their exams the next semester nothing more I dont call this postponing it is simply impossible for me to write 2 semesters worth of exams in one go and I cant risk falling behind since I have a scholarship and need good notes for it |1 More issues with something like thisPeople are going to be a lot less apt to stay inside for your safety if you drop it on them last minute and theyre just finding out how bad things really areBest to keep everyone informed and not just assume its going to be mass hysteria There should be transparency its ridiculous how much the government has moved to managers of the people Like with all this fucking tax money people pay the last thing they should be doing is hiding secrets about something like this its fucking ridiculous Im real tired of these inept cocksuckers having all this power and responsibility|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats weird I would expect them to|0 Thats not what its saying If we slow down the spread flatten the curve then there will be enough resources to help the severe cases If the spread is too quick to the point where it exceeds our capacity to handle it then well start to see more deaths and thats what we want to avoid This is why cities are shutting down to flatten the curve|1 I wasnt criticising the decision just pointing out the problem with the confirmed cases numberMaybe not trying here is correct But it does need pointing out when discussing the CFR|0 They spent all the money and the fund is full of IOUs and they were wondering how they were going to cover it Well this is the solution to their problem What a sad world we live in|0 This is true cant be seen as vulnerable in anyway|1 Say what you want about Cuomo but hes telling the truth here The CDC and Trump administration officials always seem to be contradicting each other at press conferences Administration officials We have the virus contained CDC We expect more cases that create clusters of infectionIts like Pence saying test for all as long as doctor orders it Finding out that isnt true as people are being denied test unless they meet certain criteria It cant be both can someone tell the truth|1 Could have saved a lot of time by just saying youre LARPing from the start The patents have nothing to do with creating a virus the patent is on the sequencing of the virus which is then provided to companies for free so that they can make vaccines and treatments based on that knowledge You can claim this current outbreak pathogen is manmade or manmodified but you dont have the evidence to support that If your only support of that claim is that they added HIV to it thats just you showing your ignorance NCov doesnt have HIV in it It shares one genotype which prior coronaviruses foudn in hte wild also have I do know exactly what I am talking about Yet you say things that are provably false|1 Right now there are beds available to be filled hence no lock down yet|0 ILC has been providing distance ed for 100 years in a Ontario They offer almost all classes online so that isnt a concern A lot of schools now issue cheap chrome bookslaptops to students both my kids have one but we also have several computers at home so I would be happy if the school gave them to someone else Internet can be provided via hotspots issued to students I would suggest the public library but they should also shut down My eldest child is in a university course that requires a lot of supportive therapy because of the potential for witnessing trauma and her school has been offering a lot of online support while their cohort is doing there residencies Online therapy support in general has exploded the past few years Yes there are some challenges but nothing that cant be overcome|1 We do not have limited test capacity that we know but only people with symptoms and that were in contact with infected people can get one The between tests and infected is always similar We have 31 000 cases today with 143 000 tests They said they will test asymptomatics people with mild symptoms or people that had no connection after the peak and when the healthcare situation is under control|0 Idk Ive participated in local emergency management tabletop excercise s at the county level so my profeshional mind knows better but that little kid wearing a tin foil hat inside is screaming wtf Great timing I guess|0 If this happened in a movie I would think This movies sucks unbelievable no one would act that way |0 I think forced quarantine sounds a lot like home arrest which sounds a lot like false imprisonment I dont know how the American government will be able to enforce that without violating the 5th14th Amendment right to due process Not to mention the tactical challenge of police arresting a mass number of quarantine violatorsAmericas only option is for the health department to force businesses to close and then hope that encourages mass voluntary quarantine|1 Viruses mutate fast especially RNA viruses You can look at the divergence in mutations and track back to when the virus probably originated The tendency for viruses is to become less lethal and more transmissible Being less lethal often helps a virus because that means youll carry the virus around and infect people instead of going to an ICU or quarantine Becoming harmless does not help a virus it needs you to hack and cough and sneeze to spread the virus anything that makes you feel miserable for a long time but not so miserable that hide in bed all day is useful for the virus The really terrible viruses that outright kill people usually jumped a species barrier from another mammal|0 Nice|1 Gamers bros in shambles lmao|1 Can you fix the link so it goes to the actual puzzle and not an imgur with a screenshot of it The link on the imgur is broken too theres a space after fold|0 It scary how this virus has effected everyone I came across this article which talks about the product which now have a supply crunch im india This virus is not just effecting one continentcoronovirushttpstheprintineconomythesearetheproductsthatfaceasupplycrunchinindiaduetochinascoronaviruscrisis366688|0 Yea the inheritances from dead parents and grandparents will help the economy by providing liquidity|0 The urge to punch him in the face would be too hard to refuse|0 Well said|1 Lol how do you guys find the stuff you do do you live in South Africa If not what brings you to that side of twitter I dont use twitter so Im jw|1 Yes and because of this we should completely just give up and not even bother recycling our 327 million bottles s|1 At least the US doesnt murder 80 year olds and up like Italy is planning to do|1 dont worry its just the flue s|1 Agreed|1 I looked it up its a QAnon conspiracy to discredit him|0 The Americans arent any stupider than Canadians We are all in the same boat so to speak I just hope it isnt a cruise ship|1 Yeah NJ and Philadelphia are also fucked|0 What do the confirmed cases look like so far in Okinawa Also what date was it where folks went around there|1 Im in the same boat He look me in the eyes on Friday and finally said to me maybe we should get supplies I wasnt about to let us die Ive been sneaking extra groceries and medicines into the budget for weeks and hiding them in a box in a closet we dont use |0 I dont think we are really going to see the mass quarantines that China did It seems if we were smart we would just shut everything down now for 23 weeks before it gets worseMay seem drastic but it will be required eventually Better to do it before everyone gets sickThe attitude of waiting till things become severe makes no sense We dont do that with other things why are we doing it with this Do they also tell us to wait till tires are bare to change them No you do that shit early prevention is a lot easier than trying to fix things after the fact|0 Hate to break it to you buddy Thats 218 billion|0 Stay safe Take care|1 Ayee for the setup of the stream lol|1 Evidence of pangolins as a source of infection is still pretty weak from what Ive seen And the bison sure as fuck were not anymore because they were slaughtered to extinction in the wild|0 Also exciting is that it would probably turn you blind relatively quickly Maybe 57 minutes|1 Please do Stay safe Also keep vulnerable people safe by slowing the spread|1 The virus is not going to lead to humanity dying out The numbers seem scary but looks at them in perspective these visualisations are clear and may dispel your fearhttpsinformationisbeautifulnetvisualizationscovid19coronavirusinfographicdatapackhttpsinformationisbeautifulnetvisualizationscovid19coronavirusinfographicdatapackMost cases are mild The majority of people recover As time goes by if the virus doesnt go away completely and just becomes part of the regular cold and flu season viruses in the future people will catch it when theyre children who arent affected By the time they get to the older age groups where the high risk currently is theyll have had it before and be immune Its not a death sentence for the planet Other users here dont report posts like this try to reassure them and counter their fears The OPs not trying to doommonger theyre genuinely scared Dont push them away|0 Same shit Im hearing in Missouri with some of these morons out hereEdit spelling|0 Thank you They have course corrected and have largely done what is right|1 I have a trip to Mexico City in two weeksNone of my hotels are refundable Wondering if I should just cancel anyway |0 Tickets from LAX to Wuhan now is just 500600 now Anyone can find out for themselves or pitch in and help|1 Wait They are testing now Where at Friends of mine have been to Drs offices and had symptoms of the virus but were told they did not have tests yet Five different friends five different Drs And no tests So what is up with that|1 I know Ive been keeping up with what each airline is saying She was afraid to travel through the cities and on the train and when she finally agreed to leave a few hours ago I was hearing of flights being cancelled and other surrounding countries not receiving China flights I told her even if she caught it on the way home we have very good hospitals and can quarantine her here But now Im mostly afraid she would be out on the street We dont have the resources to put her up in a hotel for months on end|1 Ive always been under the impression that your immune system takes a hit when you quit And could the constant coughing and phlegm cause any issues I guess Ill quit just to be safe This is going to suck pretty bad but I guess its worth it|1 You want reassurance but it is just luck of the draw Some patients just react differently Some healthy kids get cancer for no reason Some have horrible reactions to medications Some have awful allergies|0 Honestly I think one thing that will help out a lot is that people will start to do more outside activities instead of crowded indoor ones and more daylight hours means that more outside services like handrails will get sterilized by the sunlight for a longer period of time each day|1 Yeah somehow Singapore made it onto RIVMs list of highrisk areas yet North RhineWestphalia right across the border with 3x the number of cases isnt on there|1 Closure of flights from more locations than Wuhan early on rapid development of a test thats both accurate and quick voluntary quarantine for flights as soon as the case count gets over 100 and over 300 no flights allowed ramp up on n95 masks 8 weeks ago South Korea type testing plan no lies to the people and quarantine for cities like Seattle BEFORE it goes full Wuhan Asking all US companies to implement work from home protocols and to immediately send home anyone displaying symptoms They can only return with a doctors permission Also ask for disinfection crews when there is someone that tested positive for where theyve been Honestly none of this would stop the virus in its tracks but it would slow down the infection rate to give the scientists enough time to run trials Im not one that believes a vaccine will work the 1st time and I do not believe they should cut corners A few vaccines have failed to provide protection or caused unintended side effects like death I wont he lining up for the 1st round of vaccinations If it fails those getting the vaccine might be way worse off that just getting infected by the virus|0 Thanks for the infoNice talking with you Have a good day|1 The quarantine and how reading news and everything can make you go crazy you can take for example every foreigner asking to be rescued from Hubei thats less than 10 thousand people who asked to get out since they where losing their minds trapped in there now imagine 14 billion Or take for example when that fake news came when the pets could easily get infected and people started killing their pets If they go crazy it will create a social chaos that wont affect only China but the whole world|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im not an expert on this but in the US wait times for ICUs are typically 5 hours They operate at near capacity especially in major cities Also keep in mind were in the peak of regular Flu season in the northern hemisphere Hospitals are already packed higher than normalIf you watch this whole video he noted a key strategy that Wuhan managed to shuffle their hospitals to designate some of them COVIDonlywhile moving other patients to other hospitals A lot of places in the world do not have the excess capacity to implement similar measures|0 Im trying super hard not to be a Petty Patty about the efforts that I made and reactions I got I started conversations 23 weeks ago and got a ton of push back And even still continue to see around me about the seriousness of the situation Im hoping its an opportunity for personal growth in how I handle people who have differing abilities to process or understand informationI am predicting that as the cases rise quickly when testing actually begins we will see a second round of panic So wait a week with your initial preparations and then make sure youre stocked up and good to go for an additional month Because I think thats when we may see supply issues|1 I will look into Thank you for saying it in a gentle way |1 Not for prescription delivery Shipt is like a courier service for CVS prescriptions We can only get tipped in app for orders placed through the shipt appwebsite or through targetcomIf you were to place an order in the shipt app for CVS over the counter items then you can tip in app but prescriptions are a completely separate service fulfilled by shipt|1 Mayo Clinic announced a test today as well It has a 24 hour turn around Not as fast Anyone know if if either of these are bettermore reliableetchttpsnewsnetworkmayoclinicorgdiscussionmayoclinicdevelopstesttodetectcovid19infection|1 Yes I have an 85 yo mother Yes Im concerned but she comes into contact with relatively few people And Id you want me to be brutal when you reach 85 there is a whole host of things that can do you in already|0 Im in the group that wants to disagree with about 90 of the statements here but knows its useless Very few people here are willing to actually consider other points of view|0 The peak number of new cases per day in Wuhan was 4000 in the official Chinese numbers Looks like Italy as a whole may peak lower than that So thats confirmed new cases per day which is obviously not the true extent of it Italys peak so far has been 3500|0 ok well you have the luxury of telling people not to come in because you get paid as a manager You also worked out a deal to with the owner to get paidWhat about the bartenders servers bussers etc that work for you and all the other places in the city Shits really gonna hit the fan when hundreds of thousands of restaurant workers cant pay their rent|1 Someone stole the whole metal stand and hand sterilizer station from our Kroger entrance Saw a post from someone who watched it happen they dragged it out the door a car pulled up and they took off|1 Isnt it kind of pointless to quarantine for anything less than two weeks Like you may as well not quarantine at all if youre only going to do it for a week|1 Yeah schizophrenia get help|1 I just want to know if I have it so I know if going outside is spreading the virus I desperately want to go for a walk but I feel like if I have corona thats risky Would also love to go grab some takeout but again seems dangerous if I have it|1 I hope so but it is not so obvious how we can find a decent way to organize society|1 I also suffer from anxiety and my mom has been reassuring me that I do NOT have pneumonia She said when she had pneumonia she had terrible back pain a fever and felt like her chest had been punched a few times by a child Whenever I get anxious and hyper focus on symptoms I think of that Ive had a dry cough since late January but surprise surprise thats when the outbreak started to make the news and I get acid reflux when Im super anxious and a dry cough likes to follow me with acid reflexAlso maybe its just me but Ive found it kind of calming reading these threads Here its a lot of scientific data and level headed conversation It got kind of exhausting reading all the ChinaFlu and Coronavirus with the R0 is literally 45 7 billion dead and 12 gazillion more next year|1 The point of declaring emergency is to get access to resourcesTheres really little doubt this is gonna happen so shutting down events and business is likely to hurt as much as it helps overall|0 Just quietly prepare your life boat and let others laugh Best case maybe you overreacted and now youre either prepared for the next natural disaster or you dont have to grocery shop for a whileWorst case well|1 Hey dude been in China for years its fairly normal around this time of year for the streets to be dead and shops to be closed Although it definitely is more this year than previous years|0 Our wedding was the 28th of March but the venue rescheduled it for May 23rdWe will see if we have to reschedule againIts all kinda ironic for us because we decided to have an indoor wedding in the off season because we didnt really care when it was and the indoor so we didnt have to basically plan 2 weddings incase there was weatherAnything can happen at this point We are both WFH for the next 23 weeks is a good trial run for stressful timesSo far we still love each other so thats good We plan on celebrating each failure date in our own way|1 Hes acting on the advice from CDC HHS and WHO I dont agree with it on a fundamental level but Im resigning to this logic This is all straight out of 1918 and event 201A collapsed economy will struggle to support the outbreak and deaths will go up in a panic House dems will hold funding hostage for concessions house gop will turn a blind eye to the severity Not until it reaches critical point will trump risk declaring it a national emergency in an election year after being tried for abuse of power Im glad he deferred the decisions to Pence and I hope Mike takes this as serious as it is and we gave a strong outcome|0 Chinese hospitals are not as different or underequipped as you think Also the biggest overwhelm risk is in the initial panic as everyone with a sore throat rushes to the hospital for testing finds that testing takes 8 hours and then is at risk for crossinfection That was the big problem in Wuhan|0 Im not a science person in that Im good at it myself but I have an immense respect for the work they do So Ive been following what they had to say I did the slow stocksupplement shop starting in late January Last week they were temporarily out of one of my asthma medications but had it in the next day|1 Is anyone getting concerned about the very very tiny number of people who have been reported to recover from this|1 Hours just got cut to 9am7pm|0 Dudes lucky Hopefully this is a sign that the viruss lethality is evolving downwards|1 lol imagine if this comment was made by an American|1 wait dont viruses the mutate too fast also tend to die out faster|0 That and wanting to avoid panic|0 They could have swabbed your nose at a moment when there just wasnt much viral RNA to see This is why at least where I live theyre stressing that testing people without any symptoms doesnt make much sense|0 If only China didnt hide the true scope of the danger before the cat was out of the bag|0 Find us someone closer to get us to Mars and better electric car specs If Space X is successful at their goal things like this will become negligible At the very least the guy is encouraging people to stay home if they choose|1 is your airline not making special dispensation due to the COVID19 situation|0 Damn I used to have a motorcycle in Shanghai a few years back Im in Shenzhen now can just imagine riding through the empty streets of Shanghai now|0 Your comment is considered misinformationencouraging drama Please refrain from this type of unhelpful commentary This is a warning Thank you|1 China is using this covid pandemic as opportunity western world is going to collapse due to our stupidity and I fear of living in a world where CCP is leading the global superpowerWe need to stop this covid asap and fix ourselves We shall rise again|0 I live in the metro area about 20 minute drive from downtown Downtown has a great nightlife scene and is super fun But yes theres still parts of downtown that you dont dare go down And then theres also rich neighborhood streets that are beautiful but as soon as you turn a corner its bad there is no middle Its really fuckin weird and not normal now that im typing this|1 God bless you|1 It may be best to contact the individual school boards as well as the province you are inCall and write lettersEven the news Saying many parents are writing in to be proactive and slow the spreadPower in numbers|1 Twitter is skewed age wise towards the under 40sThe under 40s overwhelmingly did not vote Conservative|1 are they still going to school If so thats not really reducing their infection chances very much|1 cheap easy protein They also keep much longer than the expiration would have you think Besides eating plain you use them as an ingredient for a ton of thingsGroceries by me also out of flour and sugar |1 Im not sure why you got downvoted twiceTheres a theory that the 1918 influenza originated in China prior to 1918 Thus its population already had partial immunity by the time it spread to the rest of the world|0 Someone please tell the Netherlands we still have after 24 hours symptom free you are no longer infectious on our fucking official sites|1 Cruise Ships can take a R0 number of 2 and increase it to 50 They are petri dishes for viruses to spread Everything about them is perfectly built to spread viruses as much as possible i wouldnt take this as any kind of representation of how much a virus can spread Last year one guy with some nasty stomach virus spread the virus to 476 passengers on a cruise ship in just 48 hours|1 From everything Ive read some of it conflicting youre most likely to get a fever sore throat and a deep cough with it moving down into the bottom of your lungs if it really becomes bad Thats when elderly people need intubators and all that and when it can kill them It seems that most younger people who dont have existing health issues dont hit that point but obviously no way to guarantee whether youll be in that boat or not Personally I would like to see these events postponed because it will help mitigate it spreading as quickly Just because Ill be fine doesnt mean I want elderly people to die from its spread|0 now apply CFR of 10 which you can easily get by comparing by fatalitycases14dThats armchair analysis Neil Ferguson and his group estimate current CFR to be around 1 05 4 95 CI httpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollege2019nCoVseverity10022020pdfHere is another good paper on the biases of CFR estimation during outbreaks which explains why these estimates are not as easy as dividing two numbers httpsjournalsplosorgplosntdsarticleid101371journalpntd0003846|1 Well for one thing you cant see the air in Seattle and its not yellow|1 Corona Fest Imagine that scary|0 just look at rconservative they are mocking Italy for socialised medicine|0 except most of those 6000 hospitals do not have the capacity for 83 patients in total let alone for only this|0 Drugs r bad|0 Thanos will be proud|1 Sr System Engineer for a Private Cloud Provider checking in Thankfully all I need is a computer and an internet connection to do my job We have the infrastructure to accommodate a mass WFHWe have a BCP policy in place should we have an employee or close contact of an employee test positive then it will be mass WFH for 300 people at our office here|1 I didnt wanna add another edit to my thread in case you missed itThis sub does not have an obligation to provide advice which is what your response seems to be assuming You can preface a thread with that that we dont offer advice or take a stance on what is right or wrong Simply that we post information that has been published somewhere This by its nature implies contradictory information After all isnt that what we should be striving to be A place where people can come to get information We completely fail at that right now and this feels more like a support group for the anxious|0 the notificationss I leave are after Ive already taken the car so they can get that possessions back they have no reason to lie to me you on the other hand dont know s|1 Your username is my dads nickname for his dog You get one more upvote from me my friend|1 I dont know anything about bsl4 But I dont even trust Chinese parts on my shitty car And you know they are using Chinese parts in their bsl4 Labs whatever that is Just sayingAlso this is China they do whatever they want over there|0 China isnt cratering its economy and building 90 hospitals for a bad case of the seasonal flu|0 Developing countryA developing country or a low and middle income country LMIC less developed country less economically developed country LEDC or underdeveloped country is a country with a less developed industrial base and a low Human Development Index HDI relative to other countries However this definition is not universally agreed upon There is also no clear agreement on which countries fit this category A nations GDP per capita compared with other nations can also be a reference point PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 httpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051Sample size is limited and the thing that jumped out at me is cancer patients lung tissues but normal lung samples are in the mix Preprint I have not dug the details of any sample bias issues|0 OK boomerRussia|1 ahhahahahahaha I just came back from China last month and I was shocked at all the plastered everywhere and the Oath to become a party member plastered over walls on a highend restaurantThis girl I was chatting with from Tsinghua University is exactly like you describe she was trying to convince me how China is completely democratic even after I repeatedly told her I dont even think democracy is good I dont I think its a tool for propaganda and completely useless but thats another topic for another day she kept telling me how China has democracy with Chinese characteristics and how we have been taught to only recognize democracy with western characteristics but that they are actually both equally democraticAnd so on|1 Totally agree and I bet it can be calculated Not by me but by the analysts and epidemiologists|1 Can someone explain to me how being a smoker is apparently a death sentence if you get the corona |0 Flu vaccines only work 50 of the time and the elderlies immune systems arent as strong|0 The story of the village people who avoided dealing with a problem until it became a crisis justified the bad results as not their fault and pinned the blame as far down the ladder as possible|0 It would mean you get to stay on the ventilators instead of getting bumped off by someone with a better chance of survival|1 Yeah to some people if the media doesnt talk about it theres nothing to worry about but if they do talk about it its fear mongering|0 It would hit the US as hard as italy because we also have an aging population Also obesity diabetes and smoking almost double your chances of dying If everyone that got swine flu in the US 50 million got this it would be 15M best case Italy just got 2000 new cases and 196 dead in 24 hours|0 I am doing more work at home stuff Wash my hands a lot now when I leave and then when I come back Fuck we are all becoming like Howard Hughesthe aviator 2004 movie from the 30s LOLAnd we are also ahead of the curve |0 Luckily we bought a house at his last duty station So we have somewhere to stay Now if the movers come as scheduled we will be in a different scenario|1 Logistical issues of a pandemic are more easily understood by the public than more obscure technical material that proves global warming is manmade People will always have their opinions on all of it anyway and voice it Doesnt mean their ideas arent still mostly stupid As for your example I will defend that one in that if a call had been made quickly 2 months ago to shut down all air travel for a month the virus would likely have ended up largely contained or at least a hell of a lot more manageable and that disruption would have cost the world less than what this now will Even shutting it now do we truly have a cost benefit analysis of doing that with air passenger travel for 12 months vs just letting this free spread Is it already too late What is the value proposition in simply slowing all the long distance spreader nodes now Yeah almost no one on earth can legitimately answer that China is relying on precisely that sort of strategy preventing all unnecessary travel and human to human contact to drop the R0 and turn the corner on the epidemic|1 Its safe to assume China is always lying to some degree|0 If only there was some sort of Universal Income programThe testing was going really well until Ford killed it due to corporate interests|0 I would have gotten one yesterday if able Positive for influenza though Can u get coronavirus and influenza at the same time|1 I hope you have a speedy and full recovery How long did it take for you to get tested Were there any delays in getting a test and how long did it take for you to get results back|1 Nah what we hate is the rich crying and whining for help and Congress tripping over themselves to provide it while were all expected to bootstrap our way through a couple decades of stagnant wage growth rising COL dwindling work benefits crumbling healthcare and skyrocketing pollution You want us to have sympathy for these rich jackasses who dont have a hardship in the world Fuck em Let them eat shit|0 No CDC said they told the president and VP it was a woman in the briefing|0 21st century black death|0 Holy shit there is some good information in there I hope they can bring him out of it|1 Haha fam |1 Better keep testing vaccines it may be a good idea to start increasing manufacturing of supplies used in ICUs|1 Clever not to address the recommendation of keeping flights open Many MANY credible people called it a pandemic FAR before WHO did CCP delayed WHO delayed it cost us dearly We will not forget|1 Oh fuck were in danger|0 The government need to help everybody Workers getting fired over this social security leaves from sick and quarantined workers much more medical investment Extra payment for those health workers doing insane hours this days and getting forcefully moved where neededYou are not the only one in need of helpSo dont call the government pigs have some respect they are doing things great because they are thinking of everybody not only some people|1 Uh oh Whats that P word mean I dont understandDoes that mean we are in very very really high alert now|1 You also have to keep in mind that theres probably so many unreported cases thanks to not being tested The mortality rate is likely much lower when accounting for those undiagnosed|1 Sadly this is not that out of character|0 Numbers dont mean poop if you dont know all of them How many in hospital how many in ICU on respirators Thats what I would like to know|1 Ignore China They deserve all the blame for the outbreak and should have their economy reduced to rubble by moving manufacturing away from there Though I doubt any of our incompetent leaders will do this What about Korea and Singapore Why cant we get our shit together like them|0 That doesnt make much sense to me honestly Why would you sell something to cover losses that you expect to go up or be a safe asset The explanation that everybody moves to cash doesnt make sense to me This is not what happened before what reasons are there it would be drastically different this time I think whats happening is governments massively selling gold to prevent the gold price from skyrocketing and people losing trust in currency immediately|1 Rob the rich and leave them with the fucking bill|0 I learned how to make them and I sell them on my Etsy Im also more than happy to share the pattern I made with instructions on how to sew them even if you dont have a sewing machine you can easily handstitch them together and theyll be useful in a pinch especially if you buy some filters online httpswwwetsycomshopJust4FunToysAndGifts|1 You are right to point out that COVID19 has similarities as a flu but the issue at hand isnt whether it is like the flu its that this is happening in addition to the flu Consider that our hospitals are already chronically at full capacity due to the flu and other medical needs Consider that 1520 of those ill with COVID19 will need urgent care and this additional capacity will be hard to accomodateIts not a question of if it spreads here but how quickly it spreads how much we can slow it so that our health care system can adjust Large gatherings and close contact makes transmission that much more efficient and while a young person herself may not be at high risk what about when said many said persons take it home to grandparents or cousins undergoing chemotherapy We want this to happen at a small enough scale so the vulnerable populations can access resources and care when they need it But I already made plans does not justify inadvertently exterminating those who dont happen to be in their primes|1 What about flights from Vancouver and Toronto Or people driving from other cities the US etc Im not trying to argue I just dont think testing for testings sake will be helpful I think the issue is being strategic with tests assuming there is a limited supply If I heard doctors were being denied tests as were hearing in the US Id be more upset I think anyone presenting flulike symptoms and frontline staff should all be tested|0 true|1 A novel account doesnt mean I am a liar By the way I registered it last year Since I am a lazy man most of the time I read posts on reddit Recently I was occasionally interested in such topic about ncov and started to write something you can think of it as some sort of boring behavior during quarantine It seems that the criticisms focus on the early reaction to the virus I am not going to totally deny this There must be some mistakes in the early stage Obvious coverup occurred within 10 days or less possibly in 7 days instead of 2 months as someone believe I will explain them below China admitted the virus is humantohuman in Jan 20 it was about 40 days later than the first case reported Ill try to figure out what happened in the 40 days in my wayIn my opinion the recognization process to the virus can be divided into 3 periods From December 8 to the end of December there was little known about the virus patients were treated as pneumonia or flu and no one known the pathogen until the genome of the virus was sequenced on 29 December Some doctors may notice that there were too many patients from a seafood market but it was easy to be ignored because it was winter a flu season and not all the patients were in one hospital By the way Dr Li sent the warning message on December 30 He must notice some kind of flulike disease has attacked many doctors Considering the incubation period most of them showed mild symptoms He connected the disease to the SARSlike virus when he knew the genome result That was the first period the virus was looked as fluFrom Jan 1 to Jan 10 there was evidence to show the virus can spread from human to human because the samples from doctors who showed the same symptom were also sequenced Considering the time costing of virus isolating and sequencing the formal report should be finished around Jan 8 or 9 That was the second period the virus was known to be a new type of SARSlike virus it was certainly humantohuman but the route of transmission remained unclearFrom Jan 10 to Jan 20 there must be a secret argument between Wuhan government and the department of health that was what we called and most hated bureaucratism The Wuhan government apparently accepted the disease is human to human the evidence is the government set up the infrared thermometers at railway stations and airport in Jan 14 people who have a fever were refused to onboard The turning point is Jan 18 when epidemiologist Zhong Nanshan arrived at Wuhan to take charge of the local epidemic prevention He told the public the disease is definitely dangerous and can spread between people on Jan 20 That was the third period I call it the indoor argument Considering its a decision to lockdown 50 million people it would take at least three or four days for all views to be fully discussed I suppose they wasted the rest 6 or 7 days for hesitationIf I were the city governor I should announce to the public the virus is human to human at Jan 9 or 10 when I received the report showed doctors infected the same virus And go back to Jan 1 I would announce the risk of infected to doctors at least asked them to take a certain personal protection Of course I dont need to be responsible for the panic consequences of 50 million people and the economy of a province so I can make the decision easilyIn my opinion at least until the end of December Chinas response couldnt be blamed cause the judgment was misled by the flu season and pathogen didnt be found As I know many people around the world still insist the disease is just a flu now From Jan 1 to Jan 10 the medical system needed to get the risk warning Whether it should be disclosed to the public is worth discussing But at least people like Dr Li shouldnt be punished for warning the public after Jan 10 From Jan 10 to Jan 20 I think the government of Hubei and Wuhan made the wrong decision Even excluding three or four days of closeddoor discussions they wasted nearly a week The central government obviously holds the same view When Dr Li died on Feb 7 Chinese people widely praised him and showed condolences blamed the punishment imposed by the police The Chinese government acquiesced in the behavior without suppression Soon almost all supreme chief of Hubei province and Wuhan city were dismissed The main criticism among domestic netizens has also focused on the delay from January 10 to 20I have tried to restore the events and the governments decisionmaking based on logic and reasoning so that you can make your own judgments After this epidemic is over there will be many people who will look back on what happened at that time and analyze the pros and cons of various measures from multiple perspectives By then Chinas role in this incident will be evaluated more fairly and objectively Talking about SARS the worlds general view is that Chinas early coverup had serious consequences Chinas attitude towards this is lowkey acceptance and recognition Now I and the other netizen can freely blame the government for the SARS coverup without punishment Are you surprised by this I will stop the discussion here and dont update it unless I find something seriously wrong Id rather wait for the result of a longtime and objective investigation As Lincoln said You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time|0 It costs INSANE amounts to cancel We planned our trip to Japan last year and had been wanting to do this for YEARS The only way we arent going is if they cancel them because that is the only way they wont charge us fees We are staying home for two weeks though|0 Well I guess some of us need to stay healthy to keep up the igloo and maple syrup jokes So Im with ya|1 Ten people have died|0 Jesus titty fucking Christ Oh And double shocker Much like the mysterious coincidences in WA where the more they test the more cases show up It makes no sense|0 Not sure of its the same everywhere but some places with drive up testing still cant test everyone who drives up unless they meet ridiculous criteria In some cases this criteria still includes whether they have traveled overseas In other cases its whether the fever meets the exact number on the thermometer Ie someone with 1003 might not be tested because the criteria says 1005|0 Wow The school closure must have been more than oddly satisfying|1 Ehhhh testing and other measures would have been good but I dont think it wouldve stopped most of these early deaths or helped save older more vulnerable people who contracted the virus|1 WORLD Everyone STAY HOME Self quarantine at home This will prevent the spread of the virus Dont worry you have your video games to spend your time on NVIDIA Were gonna need to borrow your PC guys|1 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 100 for sure They got caught with their pants down and think people are stupid enough to believe their nonsense Where the fuck does all the money go You would think after sars and ebola and h1n1 they woulda learned their lessons that shit happens and preparedness aint something to fuck around with Absolute fucking disgrace the sad thing is most people believe their bs and think masks actually do more harm than good It wont be long until they come take everyones masks or raid peoples houses that they see wearing them in public It could happen China contained it mostly if true by FORCING everyone to wear masks Im so disgusted with our government right now|0 Theyre going to need to close hotels and use them as makeshift hospitals to treat people|1 What would even be the point of making such a weapon if youd never use it|0 I think for our situation south Koreas numbers are pretty meaningless South Korea used logic and critical thinking to get where they are today in terms of the virus I think Italys numbers are a more reasonable expectation of what will be happening in the US moving forward|0 Id argue about the true definition of irony but Ill admit it did get a laugh out of meMaybe Alanis Morrissete can chime in|1 I know someone who still expects to go to Italy Its super frustrating|1 curious but what part of texas you from fellow texan here who works in a major hotel in san antonio wondering how worried I should be|0 Honestly its all Chinas fault anyway The virus either escaped from one their labs due to incompetence was created by them to harm or originated because the government turned a blind eye to some of the populations gross eating habits China is responsible but our country is so divided we are blaming the other political party instead So dumb|0 It seems like there are listings for everywhere west of Syracuse on Indeed Rochester in particular needs a lot of RTs|1 Thanks Ive been swiping down for a week straight Now I can finally rest|1 This is the worst analogy i have seen in a while|0 No one is fucking saying that Why is this such a prevalent problem with people Why do you bounce between two massive extremes and have some weird incorrect fixation that others are presuming the same extremes that 20 year olds dont get cancer and that they do in higher then believed ratesWe are not saying young adults do not get cancerWe are saying that a statistically NEGLIGBLE number of young adults get it to the point that this headline of this article is utterly garbage because this 21 year old had Leukemia which is a rare and incredibly deblitating bone marrow disorder and what coincidentally is your bone marrow mostly also responsible for White blood cell production and immune responseThe incidence rate for leukemia ages 2030 is 0003 3 in 100000 peopleSo even though only 3 in 100000 people at the same age they decide the best headline is HURR DURR 21 YEAR OLD DIES OF CORONAVIRUS LOOK AT HIM LOOK HOW HEALTHY HE IS HE COACHES SOCCERWhen in reality he has one of the MOST immunocompromising cancers which has a incredibly rare incidence rate in this populate of peopleYou think denial spurs panicHow about every fucking jug head with a twitter or instagram aged 2030 WHO HAS A FUCKING COUGH DURING COLD AND FLUE SEASON thinking they are going to die of fucking Covid19 because of an article like this one or someone like you trying to suggest that there is this silent majority of unknown conditions young healthy people are harboring|1 Carl Jung would love you my friend good insight|1 Come back with valid excuses when the government bans the sale of those animal products Its still legal in China because theres enough demand for it and it is socially acceptable So stop defending that nasty practice and culture httpswwwgooglecomampsapinationalgeographiccomdistributionpublicampanimals201810wildlifewatchnewschinarhinotigerlegal|0 Smart folks over there|1 After a few thousand dead in the US she might relent|0 Had it once Fuck me definitely wouldnt call that mild|0 I work in a hospital and we got our first confirmed covid patient yesterday Pretty empty here today Because we are full service hospital and a teaching one we have a lot of staff and a lot of room If we give up elective procedures we have a lot of space with basic hook ups for beds Suction O2 and that stuff Full respirators IDK If flatten the curve works I think well be good|1 Just go Some things are more important|1 Agree Wtf is this awful take lol|0 Cancelled a trip to Disneyland in Anaheim in May 3 weeks ago after talking to my wife So darn glad we did|1 Not gonna argue with you friend this comes from a staunch libertarian I was not hand waiving over policies but stating the obvious that Sanders is a socialist supports socialists and whose policies for decades are socialist not just progressive as he likes to try to convince people I do take your point though|1 As a husband of a nurse thank you People normally dont acknowledge how important nurses job is and how exposed they are|1 If hospitals get overwhelmed will additional cases be moved to other designated SARSCOV2 hospitals|1 I think in a week youll see all Democratic candidates agree not to hold rallies|1 Ive been walking around with flu symptoms for weeks now Thought no corona in Germany and its flu season anyway Im not that sure thats whats going on anymore|0 My medical history is a shitshow Asthma among other things So Im not taking anything for granted|1 Only in as much as every time its late someone always says doesnt sound good|0 Its not Princess that is keeping the ship in the bay Its the fn government There is no leadership Shut the borders with China 5 weeks ago and we still dont have our testing in place WTF is wrong with youus|0 You know everyones parent is not a boomer right If the person you replied to was born in 98 then its totally possible if not overwhelming likely that their parent is a gen xer I see a ton of young people that are totally oblivious to the risk from this pandemic not sure why not caring has turned into a boomerism|0 Mmmm wonder why Who would benefit from keeping that detail out|1 too bad USA will be hit hard with this cant sweep that under the rug|0 Woot grats to us|1 If you are wearing a mask you should also be wearing wrap around goggles to protect your eyes if you arent doing both there is no point in wearing a maskThis was what I was told by the director of public health who was overseeing the quarantined travellers in Canada|1 People like you are part of the problem not the solution|0 There is a possibility that it stays latent in the body and can become symptomatic under certain circumstances such as HIV and Herpes This virus is RNA and is similar to HIV also some HIV medications have proven effective in suppressing the virus For now it is just speculation but could change everything if thats the case|1 To a degree that is probably right I know its a quote But the problem is we have no idea what the actual percent is We do know what has happened in China Iran and Italy to the healthcare systems|0 nah I just went to biology class paid attention and know how diseases actually work|0 Actually Lombardy is one of the richest region in the whole Europe That mean literally everybody is at risk|1 The tankies hate him|0 Can confirm Been invited into Mexican homes multiple timeswhere they slaughtered chicken for us was a rare treat for them Blew my mind We buy 5 roasted chicken and discard their leftovers Here were these people who were living in shacks feeding us spoiled Canadians their once a month chicken Makes me feel sick thinking about how much of schmuck I wasam|0 Theres a lot to say about kids in a pandemic situation In the last few days especially schools started receiving lots of inquiries following the CDC directors public suggestion that they do so That seems to have sparked a lot of conversation about how to talk to kids about this whats schools are doing to mitigate risks and how to incorporate kids in lowering risk A lot of parents around me seem to think that sheltering kids from the scary nature of this is a protective measure I dont agree and its not what I do For all people but kids especially one of our biggest enemies is our existing habits For instance kids touch their face 23 times per hour on average we check our germladen phones every 12 minutes It takes time and effort to change our habits so I suggest starting to train your kids toward safer behaviors before they really need them while the stakes are still low And I think this involves some degree of talking to them realistically sharing what you know to be true and striking a balance between rational fear and urgency in them You know best how to find that balance with your own kids Best of luck to you and your family|1 If it adapted in the original host then the virus is likely still out there in a wild population Though it seems like if it evolved from recombining at the wet market the animal that originally had it probably died without passing it on to a wild hostAnyhow if you look at MERS you can see what they mean it lives in camel populations and jumps to humans every once in a while usually laying waste to a hospital and burning out|0 From my searching Positive Predictive Value basically we have a good test to confirm cases|1 The plan might be to have it burn through as fast as possible to minimize the economic downtime The UK was discussing doing that a few days agoThey probably took a look at the economic damage in China and realized it would be best to avoid that at any cost|0 Its like the set up to a bad jokeNorth Korea and China walk into a bar Bartender asks whatll it be China replies Ill take a Corona and buy a round for all my friendsI didnt want anything to do with it so Iran|0 Corona means no one gets left alive|1 You read some articles and now you think you know anything about this virus Guess what no one knows ANYTHING Not the news not the govts not the CDC the WHO the Harvard professor or Reddit guy behind his keyboard|0 Yeah Id be with you but I was reading educated conjectures that the virus was airborne on reddit 3 weeks before it was confirmed Its also a fact that our governments are keeping a great deal from us right now I think the theory makes sense could be totally wrong but his armchair research is solid imo I should note however that stress is a major immune suppressor so OP should go have a long walk and listen to the birds and breathe fresh air and get some exercise|1 As the numbers increase yes the system will start to get overloaded But every region of the country has plans and training in place to handle these situations and theyre starting to prepare just in case Dr Torres and Dr Fair|1 I dont think this discussion needs to be moderated or anyone is spreading fake news Its OK to share different points of view and debate I dont know the numbers but I have eyes Ive been to Tokyo last on Feb 7th huge number of Chinese groups and buses as usual Same in Hokkaido this week just on 11th we ran for our lives from a hotel lobby that was checking in a Chinese bus tourSo I think the truth is in the middle Overall numbers of incoming Chinese guests may have dropped but tourism seems to be still happening unfortunately|1 Ive been channeling my stress into playing with my pets drawing and napping but the breathing techniques could definitely help especially since my counselor has recommended I start working on my coping skills Ill look into that|1 Some people are going to miss the point and continue trying to make this outbreak about politics Yes I think the government in the US is dropping to ball in many ways along with many other nations Theres a difference though between genuine criticism and just trying to gain political points and even worse gaining political points by discussing the outbreak in ways that make it worse I started off stating that it was 510 of patients that end up needing critical care thats increased since I made my comment yesterday to 1520 Those kinds of numbers will wreck any healthcare system resulting in additional deaths due to people being unable to get treatment people both with the virus and usual medical cases Virus dont care about your politics|1 The Game Changers is one of the worst docus out there its all about lies and shit Dont believe anything from that garbage documentation|0 Actually I just spoke with the virus it said they have a pretty competitive PTO package|1 Serious question Are your local governments doing anything The US Federal Govt response has been awful but it has forced state governments to step up Theyre all still behind where they should be but at least theyre making moves Ive stopped following national virus response and just look at my states now|0 Been vaping for 7 years Ive been wondering what effect it would have if I were to get covid My lungs are great way better than when I smoked and common colds have a standard effect on my lungs I guess Who knows|1 Again not in any case Because in this case I specifically said I wasnt talking about his school So no I disagree with you about what you mean by educated and uneducated You can choose to have its own meaning for yourself but I already explained what I meant so therefore noAn educated person would likely not talk out of their asses They would know when to speak about their knowledge and when to shut up|0 Please take care |1 I understand and agree that the feds and the states are handling very poorly In TN you can only be tested if you are in or will soon be in respiratory distress However this order is a little different In meetings with various people of various opinions it is best to not have all the but what if and I think that come out as a disoriented free for all|1 Bill Blair has been lying through his teeth on Twitter for weeks about enhanced screenings One extra question on the kiosk Wow how did the virus ever get past that genius measure|1 That actually sounds pretty standard for boarding domestic flights at any of the big airports Which is a different kind of messed up|1 This is a domino effect We are going to be quarantined for months if we dont stop this now|1 Foolish A mild case of isolation is sufficient and can be contacted immediately as it develops into a serious condition It also no longer causes infections You create a situation where you need 100 beds by saving one test|0 I think its safe to say anyone over 50 is in great danger of this virus|1 In reality that ratio is far from correct if you look at the data coming from Korea Singapore Japan and the cruise shipAs an example vast majority of Korean confirmed cases have known exposure dates which are mostly between Feb 9 to Feb 16 That means about half of people who are going to developed ARDS should have developed ARDS by now In other words if the ratio is truly 1320 there should be almost 100 ARDS patients 6510 of vast majority of 1146 cases by nowHowever there are only 5 patients on ventilators and 13 on oxygen mask Considering the fact that 1 you dont treat ARDS with oxygen masks and 2 not all who are on ventilators developed ARDS and 3 the accumulated number of patients who have been on either ventilators or oxy mask is not much higher than this you can draw the conclusion that there cant be that many patients who developed ARDSThe ratio was inflated because the denominator was already severe cases|0 Idk in which field you want to work but being able to speak in the Korean language is pretty important as some of my foreign friends said|1 Now I am even more terrifiedI have chronic and severe asthma I am currently battling my second round of bronchitis starting today for the yearMy lungs already have damage Everyday more things are released and I feel like I need to be writing my obituary No Joke I dont want to talk to my family about how scared I am but I may even start writing letters to them just in case I cant stay home my job is hands on and around a Major international UniversityAm I alone I feel so alone and I feel like I am also overreacting but am I|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 This does not surprise me one bit I would also not be shocked to learn that the virus has infected many more people than the official diagnoses show Im willing to bet most people dont realize they have anything more than a cold|0 Ive been wanting to getdo something with a couple of Raspberry Pis for a while and Id be willing to finally pull the trigger and get them if I could help out with this Do you know if its feasiblewould be helpful given their limited processing capability to run either of these on a Pi|1 They are far braver than me|1 Really Thats an easy oneMost people here are used to using toilet paper their whole lives and maybe think it would be weird gross to do something else TP is often at the top of lists of what runs out first during a crisis TP doesnt go bad so you can store it easily Basically its something simple that keeps you feeling somewhat civilized as long as you have it It makes you feel like everything is still mostly OK Once you run out and start using newspaper leaves water your hand youll maybe see this differently|1 The headline is atrocious the article itself isnt too bad|1 OK you sent me off on a chase Look at this I would NOT say a big impact as you did but perhaps some in limited circumstances I noted this to another poster and had to sort of apologize httpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle152081167articlehttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle152081167articleResults of our study have global relevance to respiratory disease control planning especially with regard to home care During an influenza pandemic supplies of antiviral drugs may be limited and there will be unavoidable delays in the production of a matched pandemic vaccine 31httpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle152081167articler31 For new or emerging respiratory virus infections no pharmaceutical interventions may be available Even with seasonal influenza widespread oseltamivir resistance in influenza virus A H1N1 strains have recently been reported 32httpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle152081167articler32 Masks may therefore play an important role in reducing transmission|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Americans en mass are greedy bastardsI just dont have this experience and Ive lived here my whole lifeMaybe on tv or something but not most people I actually meet|0 Here in Korea anyone rich or poor gets results the same day|1 I think they are doing this in reaction to their health system failing not for other countries|0 Same here classes that require attendance are going as planned I have not gone to uni in weeks thankfully there was a month long strike resulting in nearly all of my courses to be cancelled but that strike ends this week I have mamaged to finish most of my deadlines by being at home so meh they cant force me to go in|0 When basically admitting you outright lied two days ago is anything but derided|0 If hes got it hell likely die but whats bad is that Mike Pence will be president and thats worse Hes trump with a brain|0 I would not be the least bit surprised if someone complains and the business gets charged with price gouging because the law is worded broadly enough to cover this practice|0 The 3rd time youve posted the same paranoid rant in this one thread get a life |0 deplorable corona is all better we fixed italso reverted to xenophobic name Wuhan whatever contrary to the WHOs conference regarding the name like 2 weeks agowere prioritizing naming and renaming and naming again this fucking atrocity it causes nothing but further confusionwow|1 Ive just started buying the same style of clothes but in different colors from Duluth Theyre always the right size the style I like and last forever Theres a Duluth store in Lubbock that Ill stop at every time Im in town working or just order online|0 I think the majority were in China because they didnt have an understanding of what was happening until too late and not taking care of themselves|0 Did that window of opportunity finally close|1 Yes It just has to mayor hospitals I dont know man but the situation doesnt seem good for us Thank you anyways|1 I would be perfectly fine with declaring the Gates family our new local monarchy honestly|1 Person who understands infectious disease says he is fearful |0 Whats the penalty for evicting someone Basically nothing if the person doesnt have a good lawyer Just because theres a law doesnt mean people care to follow it|0 media and governments deliberately hid informations|0 I imagine it will spread like wildfire amongst the homeless populations of squid row|1 Good to see Canada taking this seriously|1 Do recovered patients become immune to corona |1 For everyone actually paying attention it is You cant possibly still be stuck in denialism at this point after what Italy is going through We have horrifying firsthand accounts over there from doctors and nurses and hospitals that are completely overwhelmed Theyre making split second decisions on who lives and who dies Its terrible You have some seriously strong delusions if you can look at those accounts study the data listen to the PhDs and still come to the conclusion that this is overblown|0 The main belief is that it crossed from chimps to humans back in the 1920s in the Congo There have been villages that had breakouts of illnesses which we now assume was hiv between that time and when hiv aids broke out in the rest of the world Most likely it was from hunting eating the chimps or contact with infected fluids such as blood from them httpswwwavertorgprofessionalshistoryhivaidsorigin|0 Washing your hands with warm water and soap for 20 seconds is preferable to hand sanitizer when possible|1 bitch you were outside too|0 N could be No cruises No Just dont do it|0 Yesss Not only a good idea but itd piss off FordWin win|1 Join rcoronavirusNE for regionalized news and discussions|1 God damn how do you think of that line inherit the earth Thats a powerful statement|1 I remember when people said white people cant get it because of lower amount of ACE2 receptors and they based this on a study with 8 casesof which ONE was asian People are scared and will cling to whatever makes them feel more protected This mentality is definitely not exclusive to black folk|1 Why cant they work The store lobbies are closed empty of table and chairs Everyone right now want to not work but maybe maybe theres a safe way to do it I run on coffee and this might literally kill me s kinda|0 Love a good old bit racism Good job|1 RIP my glasses are severely out of prescription now since Ive been using the sleep in contacts Time to get a new pair I guess|0 thats just not true tho innit|0 Why are you both so angry|0 It will be way more We have only 28000 ICUs for the expected 5 critical cases around 2 million people We need to slow down the spread|0 Yes her living alone is almost a blessing in itself I hope shell do ok that must be terrifying Im 25 so Im not too worried either|1 First off assess the situation closer to the date of travel Things are changing hourly much less daily weekly or monthly Could be a chance you cant go due to things beyond your controlOnce the situation is assessed make the call If its purely a pleasure trip consider rescheduling If its a necessity take necessary precautions and goThats what Im doing at least for a trip to Germany in April|1 If we can spare Biden Sanders and Trump and any other world leader for that matter thatd be great If we could put politics aside for a nanosecond the last thing we need is a full blown panic|1 I think its because aside from avoiding crowds and washing hands theres not really anything we can do Panic doesnt make us less likely to get the virus|0 The Trump Administration has been very open about testing everyone coming back from China Quarantining those that came back as evacuees and tracing down any casual contacts with infected We were also the first country to close our borders and stop flights I would say that is about as vigilant and responsive as we could be in this circumstance To start throwing tests at every person who has a runny nose would be a bit paranoid at this point If the virus is here its here despite our best efforts I have no reason to doubt our ability as a country to deal with it at this point Not to mention the fact that NO ONE has explained why caucasian populations do not seem to be dying or getting massively sick to the point of respirators being needed the way the asianchinese population is That still does not add up to me This still feels targeted from everything thats been released publicly|0 The time to properly manage the problem with a travel ban was back in January when China quarantined 11 million of their own citizens Now weve been caught with our pants down and well need lots of toilet paper to clean up the mess|0 Break up Amazon|1 I read in another comment that youre in Canada and so I just wanted to say that edibles have been a bit of a roll of the dice for me but I just picked up some oil last week and tried it over the weekend and it has a recommendation that worked great and has an eye dropper to take away the guessing Im switching to it instead|1 Its upwards of a two week delay to see the results The only thing to take solace in is that we will be doing better two weeks before we know it|1 Im starting to believe that Atlantic article from a few weeks ago that pretty much said youre likely going to get the Coronavirus|1 The spread of panic may be worse than the actual virus itselfThispanics me|0 Youre better off in some kind of isolationAbsolutely In a building all by yourself with no shared plumbing or air Sadly this is not always available|1 It is currently a controversial topic to advise the public wearing surgical masks as some authorities recommend against ithttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutpreventiontreatmenthtml while some suggest doing sohttpswwwinfogovhkgiageneral20200228P2020022800752htmfontSize1 Since there is no data related directly to COVID19 one of the most reasonable way to seek for answers is to search for evidence regarding SARS outbreakThere were seven studies out from the metaanalysis regarding SARS prevention Two were studies were nonhospital settings 1httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed152008462httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15030685 and five were about hospital settings Within the two studies the population density of Hong Kong is 6300 person km2httpswwwyearbookgovhk2003englishchapter202001html and Beijing is 867 person km2httptjjbeijinggovcnEnglishMRPopulation201802t20180201150902html during the SARS outbreak in 2003 These studies showed wearing masks are significant factors in reducing SARS infection along with hand washing being another significant factorProper surgical mask wearing and disposalhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvlrvFrHnpQI is easy although the media kept on warning people the danger of wearing them improperly link 1httpseditioncnncom20200302healthsurgeongeneralcoronavirusmasksrisktrndindexhtml link 2httpswwwnbcconnecticutcomnewslocaltopusdoctorstopbuyingfacemasks2232220 Even in shortage of surgical masks The University of Hong Kong and Consumer Council has invented a DIY Kitchen paper towel surgical maskhttpswwwconsumerorghkwsennewsspecials2020maskdiytipshtml could achieved over 90 function of surgical mask in terms of filtration of 20200nm aerosolIt is understandable to suggest the public no to buy masks due to possible shortage but it is irresponsible to claim there are nohttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcedocumentsadviceontheuseofmasks2019ncovpdf evidencehttpstwittercomSurgeonGeneralstatus1233725785283932160refsrctwsrc5Etfw7Ctwcamp5Etweetembed7Ctwterm5E1233725785283932160refurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwnbcconnecticutcom2Fnews2Flocal2Ftopusdoctorstopbuyingfacemasks2F22322202F that masks work against coronavirus As stated in recent Lancet correspondencehttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620305201fulltext20 absence of evidence of effectiveness should not be equated to evidence of ineffectiveness The government should seek for alternative methods to advice the public regarding mask wearing eg teaching DIY masks as stated above supporting local masks productionhttpswwwhkpcorgenindustrysupportserviceslatestinformation8427hkpcmaskproductionsupport or limiting surgical mask exporthttpswwwcdcgovtwCategoryQAPagefAjRRRm9w2HwmtbonLjoYAEdit hyperlink issues|0 Yeah but what will you do Keep the school age kids at home and take the toddlers and babies to daycare Working from home with kids is doable but difficult|0 Only 100 That wont get us anywhere lol We should make the goal 50K|1 Dude died so fast from the time they discovered he was in serious condition that all they managed to do is do only a few testThe title with no comorbidities is a little clickbaitsensationalized dude clearly had add preexisting issues is just you will never hear about them cuz that is not news anymore around here|0 I am already prepped for a 2 month quarantine and dont need to work for years But the countryeconomy cant run unless led effectively to get shit back together|0 I really wish the scientists at rcovid19 would weigh in on stuff like this So much suspect information here but I cant read korean so I have no idea|0 Wall Street has a vested interest in consumers spending money Corporations might weather the storm longer but they too are at risk|0 What about the plastic 3M N99 painting respirators with replaceable cartridges I have a few of those from work Was considering using one of things got bad Not sure how reusable they would be in this scenario Maybe ok if I wipe down the mask with alcohol and dont touch the cartridge|0 I took the first flight back from Portugal on Thursday after the announcement When I arrived I had zero screening questions nor did anyone take my temperature This is fucking insane and I blame this administration|0 Love this|1 AFAIK the lung can heal itself if the damage is not major|0 ragedlikemilks top post in a week or twoEditspelling|1 So in your world there should be no papers published using the official numbersIm the opposite Its completely irresponsible to not analyze that data|0 Share your links with that information|1 Everybody liked that |1 All school has been cancelled in Washington state|0 I wish that was the case but at this point I have worked at a grocery store for the last week straight and I can tell you there are people coming in multiple days in a row over buying one guy said he rented a trailer to keep the food in for him and his family|1 Aint got time for that shit anyway Theyre on their own now|0 Good News btw this is sad|0 Yeah Im positive that there were people who were in the incubation period toDAY who flew out of the Bay Area or LAX to god knows where in the States and will be the patient zero for outbreaks in communities in like 12 weeks from now Shit already hit the fan but since it doesnt smell yet and doesnt hurt yet no one can tell And by the time we do it will have selfpropagation in communities where the elderly and previous conditions will start to swamp ICUsI mean I hope to fuck Im wrong but judging by what must have been happening one to two weeks ago in Italy for things to get this bad so quickly and for so many travelers around Europe to have contracted the virus from Italy on trips for pleasurebusiness|0 Lets wake up Canada This has been a global issue since it broke out of Wuhan Its not too late Be smart Dont go out if you are sick Use common sense when it comes to hygiene Theres a bigger picture than its just the flu and its taken until now for everyone to see this If you want raw and real stories from people around the world please come and join our discussion We see whats really going on We are the ones who have been proactive for months while we watch our governments react rCOVAnonymous|1 Alright Becky|1 Do you mind not spewing these conspiracy theories here This is an evidence based sub Go to rChinaflu for all the conspiracy theories about this outbreak|1 Congratulations to the Democrats who somehow got outflanked on the left by Tom Cotton and Mitt Romney|1 I couldnt agree more its horrifying|0 What would they possibly do if you pulled your kid out of school For that matter you could just call him in sick The schools will all be closed within a couple of weeks anyway|0 If a 101 year old man can recover from COVID19 then what chance does it have against a teenager like me Unless they have health problems then I doubt that ill die from this And also most of the victims had underlying problems or were elderly|0 We apparently need a new world health authority|1 Thats great You too|1 hes not wrong|1 Would sudafed help with this|1 Ok dude lol|1 Woah woah woah People were just telling everyone not to wish ill will on trump if he gets sick lets not wish ill will on them|0 Cant happen Hospitals Infrastructure Shits getting real|0 SC here Our governor Henry McMaster is completely delusional He continues to encourage attending large events and urges that schools remain open Wonder if that will change now that Senator Graham seems to have caught it|1 Thats how humans are lets be honest here I mean you think people care about some wars in the Middle East or Africa that lead to hundreds of thousands of people dying if it doesnt affect them|1 20 chance of those admitted to hospital have that risk|1 What a great simile|1 Rna viruses fuck around with themselvesRna viruses would make a crappy weapon unless youre an anarchist maybe|0 Holyfuckinshitballs This is the brilliant s|1 lmfao|1 Whether its fake or not its important to hear everyones opinion and make your own conclusions|0 HIV in the 80s was pretty bad but yeah while this isnt Disease X doomsday virus that wipe out most of humanity and collapses civilization globally it IS at least as big as the 1918 Spanish Flu if not a bit biggerLike many I think it will be uniquely bad in the US due to a variety of unusual cultural practices and beliefs we have like for profit healthcare our work culture etc IMO the zombie apocalypse genre will be the art that life in 2020 will imitate and the zombies will be the people in combative denial now|1 Double their pay People will remember that Amazon did this|1 let me guess the conclusion they will have everything is in control people are safe thanks great chairman xi|1 The individual who tested positive for COVID19 has had no known contact with the senator or other members of Congress The senator is requesting that testing be done on any other staffers who have been in contact with the individual and show symptoms the notice continuesProbably none|1 It feels like were playing a level in Plague Inc with headlines like these|1 Yeah but this virus is going to exacerbate other tense issues in the world Revolutions have happened for much less|0 Yes thats what Im saying evidence shows that it can stay suspended in the air for hours This is especially applicable for hospitalized patients who are on oxygen or heated high flow which further aerosolizes the particles If it didnt have the potential to be airborne transmission the CDC wouldnt recommend that healthcare provides working with covid19 patients wear N95 respirator masks|0 Governor Newsome is a clown typical San Francisco limo liberal Has done jack shit to help the rampant homelessness and drug addiction problems but now he wants to talk like he has a moral highground|1 The CFR isnt the same as the IFR and you cant deduce how many are infected based off of it|0 What is your point That we should weld people into their homes tooEdit the person Im responding to wants to shoot people who break quarantine Thats what you are upvoting peopleEdit 2 Okay I guess its just me here who thinks thats a tiny bit extreme Shoot m all|0 Yeah the pop density is almost 6 times higher in Italy|1 Well everyone could potentially die from it If you odds of dying are low though you still have modestly decent odds of feeling like crap for several weeks and possibly needing oxygen or an IV|0 Please provide thoughtful commentary with sourced information please|1 Wow what a responsible answer|1 By the way you can clearly see that whalesdolphins are not fish if you look at their skeletal structureTheir pectoral fins are actually arms and hands including the same finger bones that we have They even have a vestigial pelvic bone And the blowhole through which they breathe is homologous to our noseThey evolved from eventoed ungulates hoof animals like cattle or giraffes httpsenwikipediaorgwikiEventoedungulatehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiEventoedungulate|1 I dont think anyone really knows but I would guess we will follow China France Italy etc Boris has so far left this in the publics hands to be sensible isolate stay away from pubs dont panic buy etc trouble is the public are mainly plebs I Think his hand will be forced and they will deploy the military to control a lockdown|0 Typhoid TrumpsFirst they infected Republicans with demagoguery Then they infected Republicans with Coronavirus|0 Theyve said that they dont want to use the word pandemic because governments will stop trying to contain this They believe it can still be stopped|0 So you have no proof or do you not trust CCP|0 Italy had to shut down its entire country over 21000 cases The fatality rate is considered high at around 2 but just as dangerous is the hospitalization rate of about 20 A spike in cases can easily overwhelm a local health care system and then you have people dying in the hallways since there are not enough hospital beds and respirators for them|0 SARS became less infectious with time Some viruses become more virulent some dont Some mutate quickly others dont If all of them did it would be impossible to create vaccines for viral illness|0 There are stupid people like this and then there are stupid people who keeps socializing and partying like nothing happened Disgusting|1 If China works like Cuba and it is in many aspects they will massproduce doctors in a short time Cuba did that to produce doctors and teachers and it currently exports doctors to other countries Those doctors though are barely trainedmostly agents for proselytizing give the sense that Cuba helps some other country or give a sense of access to healthcare to the populations|1 No the US would rather stockpile bodybags|0 of those fatalities do we know that number of days from onset of symptoms to death|0 A relevant excerptYou have no idea they dont say this on TV of how many YOUNG people I mean even 20 years old need CPAP and have HORRIBLE pneumonias with no comorbidities Howmany 70sborn have pneumonias A TON Its unimaginableA second speaker talking about MilanIts true most deaths are old with existing conditions but theres a lot of young people in the ICUs our youngest is 38 with no comorbidities The real problem is that a lot of people need assisted breathing and there are not enough ventilators for everybodyThe speaker goes on to talk about triage and choosing by age and underlying health conditions who will receive ventilators and who will not that is who will live and who will notChildren are crazy carriers because the kid gets it with no symptoms he goes to his grandparents and fundamentally kills them|0 im seriously glad to live on a farm|1 I most certainly hope not but I am furious with them for not being more serious about it I dont even know what to say anymore|1 Pence was standing next to him when the picture was taken Nancy Pelosi is third in line if the other two are incapacitated Imagine that|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 thats scary|0 Sounds like my entire career in software development|1 The national guard was called out to quarantine a town in New JerseyNo its not outside the realm of possibilities Combine that with the number of guns per capita in the statesThis situation is a fucking powder keg|1 You know where those kids gonna be right With their grandparents I dont know if thats the right solution since they will be able to give the virus to vulnerable people|1 Firstly we would lose a significant amount of doctors and nurses as they would have to stay at home to look after kids At the time that we need them mostThat would be a huge problem However it can be worked around by providing care for children of people who absolutely have to go to work during the emergency Thats what happens in France Over a 3 4 month period these kids would probably end up seeing other kids or staying with vulnerable grandparents anywayAgreed to the former hopefully not the latter fingers crossed However small groups have much lower infection risks than larger groups so that looks like still a win in terms of contagion There would be a huge effect on the economy some people would struggle to survive if they couldnt go to work and had to look after their kidsDefinitely However the government can take measures to minimize this It will be extremely costly but possible The French government has announced such measures so other countries that are less affected will have a very little time to find out whether this works After all that if it did somehow work we would have to do it all again anyway This disease is not going away we cant stop it The best we can do is reduce peak demand to try and give the NHS a chance at copingAgreed Thanks I was tired of feeling like the only one to explain this So the best thing to do is wait and enforce all these potential social distancing measures at the right time Well that is according to the experts anywayAgreed The question is just when is the right time The UK is a bit behind France in terms of contagion and a bit ahead of France in terms of testing so assuming that both countries work from the same models this may mean that UK will take these measures in 12 weeks The choice is I think I agree with the feeling but I would go for a slightly more diplomatic phrasing |1 5 day old account this is your only post and you give no proof to back up your claims This is fake as fuck|0 Great except viruses pass through N95s|1 Dude 6 feet thats like 45 seats apart you need to reduce the capacity by like 70|1 Its not about treatment its about knowing whether I have to keep him away from everyone for 5 weeks letting his school know collecting data for research or if he doesnt have it having peace of mind that he can be around elderly family once his symptoms have passed|1 Welcome to where this subs followers were 2 weeks ago It gets better if you know the truth oddly Have a healthy sense of concern|1 Welcome to reddit|1 I am blood type A and I got extremely sick in mid December Dry cough fever all the symptoms of COVID19 In fact it was the worst cough of my entire fing life Relentless coughing fits to the point where Id start gagging vomiting Sharp pains in my lungs trouble breathing shortness of breath etc The whole bit Took 23 weeks to recover I seriously thought I was legitimately going to die at certain points I must have popped a blood vessel in my brain head or something because I had a TERRIBLE migraine for 34 weeks after I recovered The pain is actually still there if I coughMy wife was around me constantly and didnt get sick at all She has type O bloodFascinating I am 9999999 convinced I had this demonic little COVID19 virus here in the USA in mid December I never want to be that sick ever again|0 Yes|1 Remember reading The Emperors New Clothes as a kid Guess what its an adaptation of an old Persian folk tale from the 1280s Its human nature to accept the narrative and not challenge the herd For the record I really hope Im wrong and that the emperor is wearing some freaking clothes|0 Ah Right So you dont put anyone else at risk for any reason ever Period|0 I work at universal its stated that everyones closed until the end of March but I doubt theyre going to open that soon I just hope I can keep getting a paycheck|1 Racism is defo for pricks like but I think isolating geographically separated populations is a pretty fair response to potential global meltdown like|1 The planet has two hemispheres summer in the north is winter in the south Its always flu season somewhere and COVID19 is already pandemic We need a vaccine that is one or two years away|0 What province Im in a government office where working from home is discouraged and there are a lot of openly sick people|0 httpswwwaljazeeracomindepthinpictures201710gaininggroundbattlemarawi171025081025610htmlhttpswwwaljazeeracomindepthinpictures201710gaininggroundbattlemarawi171025081025610htmlThis is where I came fromThis is what actual poverty looks likeThis is what suffering looks likex200BWesterns cannot understand poverty you are the 1|0 Im so sorry your husband is going through this It actually sounds like mine Fever sleeping and just cant function Negative on the flu The messed up part is viruses can mutate Thats just scary in itself I would suggest calling your state health organization I hope your husband feels better I really do Mines been been also complaining of a very strange taste in his mouth with and without sputum If anything call the CDC I hope everything is ok 3|1 Okay we have something similar like Simmenthal used on camper and boat for the last chance to survive Till now in Italy there is no need to store and prep The stores are full only one person for family can go and we keep 2 3 meters between each other Meanwhile the big company of northen Italy like Tigros and Esselunga give the free delivery of food to the person over 65 We can still go with prosciutto di Parma prosciutto crudo and Speck and Bologna XD the only store I have done is of Spritz and Prosecco XD|1 Resource wise logistics wise Without contamination Nearly impossible|1 Sorry I was going by a few articles I had read I didnt realize there were so few cases at the outside parameters My bad|0 I would like to know his obvious knowledge that 1 of his population is infected if theres almost no one being tested So how does he know these numbers|0 it will still take 12 years They do trials over and over and over with larger groups each time to make sure there are no bad side effects and to make sure it works|0 That would imply hes stopped praying and asked an expert to brief him Good one|1 So it may appear they have recovered but it becomes worse after a week I hope they continue to follow up on the patients|0 Yes but we have bigger cities with more population|1 I see someone hasnt bought a new car in a while They pretty much all come with very impressive auto pilots now Some can even go point a to point b with no human input at all|1 if you want this boys hole|1 THE ONLY THING THE ECONOMY NEEDS TO DO IS PAUSE EVERYTHING FOR 6 MONTHSNo deals no bills no debts The months March to September dont exist as far as billing is concerned Only critical services are exemptedThen the government uses some of the trillions they took from us to pay us just enough to buy groceries and internet during those monthsDoneBut no The vultures need their carcasses to prey on|0 Stupidity Incompetence And also keep the people calm and stock market from crashing|0 Holy fuck Theres so much I can say but you know I think if China finally decided to be honest or at least more honest as Im still not sure these are accurate it shouldnt be shamed for finally sharing the truth So good job this once|1 Ah Im Australian so for me thats not a huge distance And yeah I remember him showing me pictures Seemed insanely beautiful|1 Dont abuse this guy buthttpsoldredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf2vl21cantbelievepeopleonthissubarestillfearfhezfmw|1 level 1Thats fine Dont live in fear go to the huge event and STAY THERE FOR A MONTH Dont come home|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Agreed So many of my coworkers are still travelling to Europe for the March break and when I ask them if theyll selfquarantine when they return The answer is a resounding no But they act like Im the bad guy for asking them to be responsible There is just no getting through to these folks|0 If I may also offer some further observationsquestions With the use of a multiplex assay the issue becomes the formation of primerdimer complexes which can result in a false positive results So for example would you invalidate a sample if say a positive N3 deviated unexpectedly from N1 and N2 in a statistically significant way You also have to contend with cross talk with multiplex assays Which can lead to difficulties in interpretationAlso you have the challenge when setting up these assays in the first place It is not as simple as placing an order for your oligos If youre developing the assay yourself there is an optimisation and validation process to go through which can be difficult impossible if you cant get hold of positive material Quantification against the cT is also of limited use in this type of assay Pretty much only used to verify the performance of the positive controls and not to quantify the amount of virus in the sample Nice job with all this Very easy to follow and nice diagrams Your end cycle is a shade too high bud|1 When Trump blocked medicare from covering this pandemic I texted my mom a nurse in a panic and this is what she said to me If there are people to treat I will treat them I dont care if they dont have any healthcare Most medical professionals feel exactly the same way We will do it for free 24 hours a day Its our callingThe US Gov may be failing its citizens but this attitude gives me hope I know she will fight this virus until its gone or it kills her|0 Fuck unpaid sick leave There are so many people that wont be able to afford that if they miss a whole pay period or god forbid twoPeople will be filing for bankruptcy left right and center|0 It also means that anyone made critical by the seasonal flu will have to compete with covid cases for hospital bedsThe seasonal flu will rack up an unforeseeable death toll this year|0 Yesterday during evening news they showed a registered video from a boy age 2528 His father died of corona he was in the hospital himself He had a breathing mask and could barely talk Said he never suffered so much he cant sleep he looked like he was suffocating taking breath every few words He asked everyone to stay home I will stay home Editthe man is 40 y old I was mistaken for the face mask sorry|0 This was not the normal flu it was the swine flu pandemic|1 Please DM me|1 Yeah thanks for the fanfiction Were so incredibly lucky to be graced by the only person in Wihan with a connection to Reddit and the bravery to speak the actual truth on the front line of the virus All of those who recorded actual video risk their life recording secret conversations and phone calls etc etc theyre the real evildoers Good thing that got what was coming to them eh Not loyal to their party at all|1 This failed plan because people can drive from one state to other One Governor can proactively stop virus in their state but the state over can have mass infections The people will just leave the state and infected other states The money and power for this is also kept by the CDC and FDA The states dont magically get power to act just because the Republicans in power destroyed those agencies This Administration is going to have handle with the broken agencies they created I will keep pointing this out as the thousands upon thousands die because of his incompetence|0 We honestly should be shaming them on the spot Lives are at stake I dgaf if people think Im an asshole for it|1 I feel the same It blew up today every patient I reviewed was there for suspected covid minus one heart attack If this is day one and were running out of ppe then were fucked Everyone I know treats me like a pariah I cant even buy food because of the hours of the markets and when I do go they have nothing Im scared of infecting my family|0 I have They crazy af bro|0 X VIRUS KILLS X PERSON IN X PLACEOMG THIS IS LIKE THE SPANISH FLU|0 Welcome to being a medical student You dont get to stay out of the room and go home just because the patient is possibly infectious|1 I was thinking the same thing there definitely are people stock pilling but I think most people are just getting what they need all at once which leads to low supplies I mostly eat at home but I buy groceries weekly not monthly My kitchen is small so i dont have a lot of room|0 The SARS vaccine was protective in animal studies It stoped the animals contracting disease The adverse finding was that there was evidence of lung inflamation in the histology but no human trials were ever performed Mice are not always the best model For humans Most other animal coronavirus vaccine are successful But there is still the potential for all sorts of adverse effects Just look at guillain barre syndrome from influenza|0 Are they ill tempered said Dr Evil|0 Im glad you brought up the mask thing and their reasoning behind telling the public to stop buying them as though hospitals send an orderly out on runs to pick up masks from a retailer Whats available to the public and wholesale medical supply chains are totally different|1 Assuming anyone sick goes|0 totally ignores the fact that some that get infected and even mild cases will have life long lung damage loss of 30 capacity x200B httpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3074988coronavirussomerecoveredpatientsmayhavehttpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3074988coronavirussomerecoveredpatientsmayhave|0 Being over weight can put more pressure on your heart to work harder to circulate you have more blood vessels leading out to fat tissuesCOVID can do damage to the heart so a weak heart may get affected harder Ill also imagine that breathing is a little more laboredAnd both systems if youre over worked are also probably working harder climbing stairs carrying groceries your heart rate goes up your breathing is labored Diabetes is also a factor Your blood also carries your immune cells to fight off disease so if your blood isnt circulating well neither are those cells|0 if memory serves me i think i read that there are 63000 ventilators in the united states but that could be wrong|0 I work at a school Ive been going nuts with sanitizing before and after the school day Washing hands a lot more and using sanitizer more frequently Im curious to see when people start pulling their kids out|1 Im talking about officials not normal idiots The other guy referenced blind sheep which suggests that the leaders are the ones trying to convince us that this isnt a big dealOf course there are plenty of idiots around the country who are still in denial but its pretty clear by the government response that they arent trying to convince people that this isnt a big deal|1 Funny thing is a lot of the second group were born in Ontario|1 This is very true I just didnt want to assume|1 People need to stop spreading the rumour that only Chinese are affected by the virus We are in the verge of a very bad time for humanity and most people dont realise the severity of this|0 Absolutely agree Differences will be with us Tough I expect Depends very much on our leadership So thats a worry But it could be worse if it was taking out the workers in large numbers permanently The slow burning flattened curve is our hope now Keep the old folks isolated At least its not December|0 Same here My parents are older and my moms health isnt great she already has pulmonary issues I worry about them|0 Notice how foreign countries have adopted race baiting to deflect criticism The kneejerk reaction from the West becomes a useful propaganda tool to abuse Populations have grown sick and tired of it as evidenced by political outcomes Wall Street Journal should lean into it and call China to task for shameful false allegation|0 Its unbelievable to think that China could be allowing human rights abuses A dictatorship with such a lovely teddy bear for democratic president|1 Its low because we still arent testing in any significant numbers|0 I think shanghai did a very good job here they only had more than 300 confirmed cases|1 yet americans killed 2k of their citizens on sept 11 2001 i guess well just never know|0 whatever I am no longer seething doesnt matter Im not going to spend my time in what I suspect to be something extremely closely monitored because I see BIG BUCKS for BIG PHARMA|0 He was an ophthalmologist so not involved in fighting the disease which makes the conspiracy theories below so ridiculous He merely worked at the same hospital as one of the whistleblowers RIP|0 Not necessarily Cases in Colorado so far are from people who were traveling There has been no confirmed community spread yet|0 Why just randomly spread this in the streets Virus just laying on the ground And people gonna touch the ground Wouldnt it be better to be doing door handles seating areas Things people regularly touch|0 This is gonna get bad My state has 19 confirmed cases right now triple what it was only yesterday Whatll it be like here in three weeks|0 IMO Kaiser might hope that the stats hold true Old people die They dont have to look after them any more|1 and by god if you are sick with anything stay inside|0 i use zulka as well since its bone char free love it have about 20 lbs on hand|1 how so i understood only american citizens snd when is the ban in effect|0 For viruses that tend to be transmitted by large particles like the Flu Coronavirus etc then it makes sense that surgical masks would be about as effective But if theres an outbreak of measles chickenpox or other agent that tends to involve smaller particles then Id expect surgical masks to be pretty ineffective|1 Wouldnt have worked Sucked on ice chips and that even made me vomit It was nothing but fluid exiting for 16 hours|1 Yup a lot of poor apathetic people watch basketball Maybe they can actually pay attention|0 I remember reading a Trump tweet the other day that said the federal government wouldnt be providing any financial assistance to sanctuary states and cities So the liberal states hit worst wont get help from the feds and the republicans will blame the spread of the coronavirus on illegal aliens|0 Tulsi playing 4D chess I like it|1 They are just scared trying to convince themselves it will be all right|0 Really depends Not your job specifically but in general it really depends if the job has leadership afterwards Will there be a market for your productservice after this if the economy takes time to recover Will you be able to continuously get trainingmaterials to keep doing your jobIf any of these things gets compromised which is pretty likely it would be hard for any job to exist Again just saying in general|1 Plague Inc was such bullshit Despite all the nonsensical features they added in all those different infection types not a single type of plague had the most common obvious feature to literally any disease people who get infected and dont die recover Instead everyone just stays in a bizarre stage of infected symptomless limbo until you give them a deadly symptom then the whole planet dies simultaneously In reality by the time youve infected Greenland everyone in Saudi Arabia has recovered and it doesnt matter if you throw in total organ failure 99 of the planet got over the disease months ago and cant catch it again Itd be interesting for them to make a plague type that actually functioned like a real disease in that way|0 Only positive was the new animal crossing switch came out and I had been saving to get it for my wife since animal crossings new game announcement planned on buying her a regular switch and this came out just in time So line to get it in the am was nonexistent|1 Tell you what this is probably the most sensible straight talking American political Ive seen in years|1 I doubt qPCR would give you results within 15 minutes The antibody test is quicker and easier but its less specific and sensitive as per my source No it is not possible to be racist to the Chinese because Chinese is not a race and I will damn well call it the Chinese Virus because it originated in Wuhan China and the world needs to be reminded of where it started and the problematic cultural practices that caused it to ensure that nothing like this happens again|0 I have probably warned about30 family members to get ready for it when Italy and iran popped up with cases I felt confident that since it has spread outside of the region China is in that people would believe meI had two peopleTWO out of about 30 actually listened Im crushed None live local to me so its not even like I can bail them out|0 Yes I agree it is upsetting but I think this bahviour will only last so long and it will abate over the next couple of weeks As I side note as we will no longer see some of the testing figures I think you will start to see a further reduction of panic buying|0 Why is this not top news Send help Send supplies|1 This only happens in the US every other country is actually losing money everyday Look at Italy South Korea and many others paying for the tests care and labor of every medical professional The issue is your fucked up healthcare system not having a free market|0 From the US but my family is Italian Im scared that culturally we are not as ready for this as European countries So many of our people have a fend for themselves mentality I guess time will tell Its only a matter of time till we are in full lockdown as well Much love to you and your country |1 Make sure youre getting vitamin d|1 understandably took a while to build given the detailI find it hard to believe they couldnt have done it quicker given all the other interactive maps created by private institutions media organisations and even community sourced|1 We cant talk about important things its primary season|0 Why would insurance companies pay for you to take a pointless test This isnt the bubonic plague Its a respiratory virus Youre not going to due from it unless you are already sick How are you people so easily tricked into panic and wastefulness Youve passed right through Trump derangement syndrome to straight up Idiocracy|0 Both good assets to own |1 Quitting does not make your lungs worse You need to stop vaping now for the best chances|1 Yet they refused to use any of the previous kits cause and instead waste weeks making their own|0 Getting r2 out of gnuplot is a pain I only do it for the quadratic fit where its 0987I just performed it for my logistic fit which is 0994 but it has 4 parameters instead of 3 and is probably severely overfitThats with one more day of data than the above httpsiimgurcomsc6wGxrpng |0 The disease is still very dangerous for people who are at risk who have never been infected before It wont be dangerous once immunity being infected once surviving is achieved all if this hypothesis is trueHowever overcrowding of hospitals is definitely a gigantic risk factor however you want to slice itHe talked about a superspreader event in Canada where a single person who walked through an emergency room for less than 15 seconds infected 19 people httpsiimgurcomrCqpHLPpng|0 If this does prove to be true I really dont get why this information isnt being shared openly and freely with the rest of the international community Seems crazy to minimally publicise observations like thisTo answer my own question I suppose this may represent coal face information passing between colleagues that has not you filtered through to the higherups|1 But dont forget the Festival of love in Saudia Arabia|1 Oh fuck yeah spread it|0 Hes not wrong|1 Its almost like government agencies have been telling people to prepare for decades|1 We have very few n95s left on site We might have to fallback onto our respirators Again running into the same problem since we only have so many cartridges|0 Great idea thanks for posting with clear instructions Joined the team|1 For a less completely destroyed perspective Sometimes people dont resort to divorce over infidelity Maybe two weeks together will give them time to decide if divorce is the right choice or if they can repair their relationship|0 They are screwing themselves they should have bit the bullet and started tested the numbers will eventually come out and it will be staggering to those not closely following|0 Apparently they do just fine with bats|1 2020 Italy coronavirus lockdownOn 9 March 2020 the government of Italy under Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte imposed a national quarantine restricting the movement of the population except for necessity work and health circumstances in response to the growing outbreak of COVID19 in the country Additional lockdown restrictions mandated the temporary closure of nonessential shops and businesses This followed an earlier restriction announced on the previous day which affected sixteen million people and included the region of Lombardy and fourteen provinces in EmiliaRomagna Veneto Piedmont and Marche and prior to that a smallerscale lockdown of eleven municipalities in the province of Lodi that had begun in late February PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Finally someone with real news and opinionBe safe and dont worry we have plenty disgusting uneducated idiots eating anything on the dollar menu Hell half of them are in this subreddit alone|0 Well IDK in 1989 if you could run out of sight of the army you disapeared into anonimity But today everyones in the system they know what each person is posting and doing every moment of the day Theres no hiding away especially now with the freaking drones following people around|0 Theres been two kinds of threads One where people care about each other suddenly despite political differences And then the asshole threads|1 But are they CDC approved |1 The death rate is 5 when not accounting for mild and asymptomatic cases Overall they suspect its less than 2 closer to 1 or less|0 And in Thailand they dont have COVD19 they are just apperently experiencing a geometric increase in viral pneumonia weird right You can find sources for both pretty easily Peak Prosperity had some in his video if you want a place to find the sources he always shows the link in his video so you can look it up|1 Boris needs to stop being such a clown and impose European style shutdowns of all non essential UK servicesHope he has the sense to do that this afternoon|0 An insane jump in cases todayItaly has been consistently looking more and more like Wuhan and its horrible|0 yeah its gonna be really tuff the impact to this will reflect over the next decade im sorry your going thru this|1 I keep reading reports of low evidence of community spread but also reading here AND hearing on my local NPRs 1st hand accounts of experiencing textbook symptoms with plausible reasons for exposure contacting multiple doctorsurgent careER and being refused to be tested because they or a close contact had not recently traveled Even if they are negative and have like influenza or another virus its not a waste of a test Its better data collection Edit This is in Southern CA with high numbers of travelers everywhere and equipped county health depts all the supportcommunication from state public health we are receiving etcWould almost be advisable to lie and say you or a close friend recently returned from Italy or something to get tested and then once confirmed positive or negative let them know it was a fib so you are properly categorized as community or unknown|1 Thats good Korea didnt do that soon enough and now that its in the country they are forced to find alternatives like the article presents to fix it Hopefully no one from questionable churches gets sick and decides to spread their beliefs all over the country That was Koreas downfall|0 Well they might need a real education|1 Dear reporter Please do your job for free because reasons Thank you|1 Reported where That doesnt appear to be established clearly in any journal I can see|1 THe sheep arent in this sub in my opinion They get their news only from the MSM and swallow it like mothers milk Sheep dont get informed sheep dont investigate sheep just follow the shepherd and are mindlessThe panic we are seeing in the places that are starting to see cases ARE the sheep their shepherd is finally starting to tell them to panic a wolf is about the eat them|0 Thank you I appreciate it|1 Japan here I can promise you I will pay a hell of a lot less than Americans will to get tested andor treated Even without insurance visitors and others here would probably not pay more than 100 for the total care if even that much At least if I survive the virus I wont die on the street for not being able to afford rent and food afterwards|1 A choke hold can drop you like a stone Source 7 years karate|0 Can we have an adult in the Oval Office now enough of this man child dumbass|0 Alright good to know Even though I feel kinda anxious about whats going to come in the next weeks its incredibly fascinating to experience all that bleeding edge research first hand I can honestly say I had no fcking clue how far science has come These guys are heroes and should be paid more|1 This is absolutely a lie You obviously have zero experience with actual hospital frontline staffA lot is happening Proactive testing is being encouraged Just because you dont see shit doesnt mean nothing is happening|1 Reddit hug of death Which in this case is a good sign Shows people want to help|1 Basically an impossible one You dont exactly get great candidates when you put up a now hiring sign must be able to fly a 747|0 Haha I was being sarcastic|1 The people I know who are taking it the most serious are about 45 Im mid 30s and most people my age and younger that I know are laughing about it|1 Just waiting for my company to hand me a laptop next week and tell me to stay home Theres nothing I do at the office that cant be done remotely|1 Other people on this sub have said 20 minutes I get whiplash from the recommendations and this is definitely true statements here|1 Lucky kitty getting the posh stuff|1 Good Im not in Italy but Australia its extremely hard to buy masks at the moment I have seen people online selling a disposable n95 for between 35 and 165 each I have 3 thoughts on whats happening1 People are stockpiling2 People are stockpiling and turning a profit greed3 People are buying and sending overseas to relatives in countries with virus outbreaks4 The government might have obtained stockpiled some 5 We had limited to begin with and that supply vanished and we havent been able to get resupply due to the world events|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Youre saying there isnt transmission until the viral load is high enough to test positive That seems to contradict a lot of information Ive read Do you have any references I can read|1 Um no I also think that my loved ones should be subject to a quarantine so smaller numbers of people overall get sick|0 First death in NorwayhttpswwwvgnonyheterinnenriksiGGmqkBfoerstecoronadoedsfallinorge|0 I would not want to be kept alive in that conditionHes quite possibly in a state where all he can percieve is being in pain|0 Thats the kind of optimism we need right now|1 Am I glad to be a NYer right now|1 Yeah the real question is whats gonna happen to people that went in other regions these days for vacations and shit Will they get back in or what They knew they should have not go out|0 GrEaT jOb InCrEaSiNg pAtRiOtIsM GuYs HoW MuCh wIlL YoUr fAmIlIeS FuNeRaLs cOsT|1 Hahaha Im not prone to fearYou just compared coronavirus to 911 I think thats called scaremongering Yes be wary take all the precautions Im sort of self isolating but just because people are not talking about it constantly have faces filled with dread or TYPING IN CAPITALS ON REDDIT doesnt mean nobody cares or is not aware its on the news everywhere atm Id say everyone is calm where I am I live in the town centre and its very quiet out there But we will carry on like we always do Im not usually one for Nationalism but its the British way|1 Here is a tweet story put out by this doctor on March 9Coronavirus in Italy tweet on March 9httpstwittercomsilviast9status1236933818654896129httpstwittercomsilviast9status1236933818654896129 1 I may be repeating myself but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters as if nothing was going to happen here The media in Europe are reassuring politicians are reassuring while theres little to be reassured of 2 This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo Dr Daniele Macchini Read until the end After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us I felt that silence was not responsible3 I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid19 pandemic I understand the need not to create panic but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder 4 I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week when our current enemy was still in the shadows the wards slowly emptied elective activities were interrupted intensive care were freed up to create as many beds as possible5 All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many including me were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity 6 I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab When I think about it my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified now that Ive seen whats happening Well the situation now is dramatic to say the least 7 The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace 8 The boards with the names of the patients of different colours depending on the operating unit are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis which is always the damned same bilateral interstitial pneumonia 9 Now explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions protesting because their normal routine istemporarily put in crisis 10 the epidemiological disaster is taking place And there are no more surgeons urologists orthopedists we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us 11 Cases are multiplying we arrive at a rate of 1520 admissions per day all for the same reason The results of the swabs now come one after the other positive positive positive Suddenly the ER is collapsing 12 Reasons for the access always the same fever and breathing difficulties fever and cough respiratory failure Radiology reports always the same bilateral interstitial pneumonia bilateral interstitial pneumonia bilateral interstitial pneumonia All to be hospitalized 13 Someone already to be intubated and go to intensive care For others its too late Every ventilator becomes like gold those in operating theatres that have now suspended their nonurgent activity become intensive care places that did not exist before 14 The staff is exhausted I saw the tiredness on faces that didnt know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had I saw a solidarity of all of us who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask what can I do for you now 15 Doctors who move beds and transfer patients who administer therapies instead of nurses Nurses with tears in their eyes because we cant save everyone and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny 16 There are no more shifts no more hours Social life is suspended for us We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols17 Some of our colleagues who are infected also have infected relatives and some of their relatives are already struggling between life and death So be patient you cant go to the theatre museums or the gym Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate 18 We just try to make ourselves useful You should do the same we influence the life and death of a few dozen people You with yours many more Please share this message We must spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy 20 I finish by saying that I really dont understand this war on panic The only reason I see is mask shortages but theres no mask on sale anymore We dont have a lot of studies but is it panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort|0 Because the mindset of the people fuck you got mine means that anyone who cares about others could potentially be a communist and therefore to be locked hated and assaultedWho knows anymore|0 who the hell are these officials why does nobody ask that anything with report or sources in the title is suspect as far as im concerned most of the stuff turns out to be straight lies|0 So sounds like what the average person would be like after catching the flu|1 Guilty|0 Zoom sucks I work with a large global company and we have that trash No better than adobeEdit I am glad others like zoom I dont Im basically a power user of it and oversee a large group also using for global work There are pros and cons I dont think zoom will be the platform of choice in two years|1 Remember Trump said President Xi is doing a great job on Twitter|1 Weve reached peak asshole|1 All people would have to do is watch a training video on the mask to wear it correctly and understand its limitations When I suited up I was always more mindful of touching my face and if you wore gloves you actually are more mindful of what you are touching as well Again you would go through a lot of gloves in reality if worn correctly since you would have to dispose of them I really hope the medical field does not run out and they are taken care of first since they are the higher risk Wonder what 3M and other companies strategies will be in the future|1 Imagine training your entire life as an Epidemiologist Training to battle pandemics and then when the big one comes around One you get beaten by the Chinese and two numbnuts are more concerned about who can run faster|0 WTF good is handgun ammo gonna do anyone against a virus|0 Agreed The amount of flu cases that have cycling around doesnt make sense My suspicion is that alot of people actually have the CoronaVirus|0 Lopinavir has general antiviral effects its prescribed for other viral conditions besides HIV Ritonavir boosts the effect of antivirals|1 SARSCoV2 seems to have an RBD that binds with high affinity to ACE2 from humans ferrets cats and other species with high receptor homology7httpswwwnaturecomarticless4159102008209refCR7Does this mean cats can be infected|0 Honestly you think they would be running preemptive daily test on those caring for the confirmed sick|1 The sluggish response is either out of concern for the economy or a result of inefficiencyineptitude both of which are infuriating Whenever this virus is spent or under control we as a nation need a movement to improve Federal expertise and capabilities Two generations of starving the beast has to have contributed to what were all watching|0 There are working tests They are being used not just in the US As I said above Switzerland USZ St Gallen Genf Triemli in Zurich Germany RKI Recommendation from March 3rd Charit Grohadern Munich RDI Munich KKH Erding KKH Starnberg ground zero for German infections Italy Garda Venecia Rome and some other bigger hospitals have gone away from venous blood lab tests to rapid capillary blood tests Even JH uses an Italian variant of Servoprax to screen workers Ive linked an image of a German pack above The hospitals I am mentioning above are just the ones I know of using themUS hospitals are using them Again I am not defending idiotic positions or the CDCs overall handling of the situation but I like my conclusions to be arrived at through facts not fiction such as the claim that the US decision not to go with the WHO test had anything to do with were better and everything with we cant handle thisSee the links above and believe me when I tell you that those miraculous 89 of tested patients come with an extreme toll on personnel for no discernible benefit|1 Your boss sounds like a selfish prick|0 Agreed Im convinced that confusion indecision and wild catchthecat approach will play out in twice as many countries this next month I sincerely feel our only realistic perspective should be this is a longterm problem and we are just realizing that this week Im going to try to spend the next few days trying to word my ideas on Okay this is truly happening now And these numbers of possible cases and confirmed infections are going to turn into bigger numbers of how many hospitals are overwhelmed or what will the death toll be globally in X month Thats the game I think the world will be playing within 2 weeksmonths With that looking likely what in the world does our Earth look like in a year or two That is the golden question I hope it brings out the best in people but it will bring out both sides in all of us along that path I can really use some help struggling with these questions So here is the plug for the sub I just made today on this httpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusLongTermhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusLongTerm|1 Not if we make better choices Probably too late this pandemic Maybe we can learn and do it differently next timeWherever theres a pattern theres an effective choice that hasnt been made before This is true on a global level and a personal one|1 Thank you So yes 250 confirmed I guess the number will still rise till the season is over would be the mildest season since 201516 I guess its cause the winter if it can even be called like that was warm as fuck|1 An r0 of 25 is a very conservative estimate Some scientists have speculated that it is 6 to 8 I think 46 in absence of any mitigating policies is probably closer to the truth|1 God bless your mobile internet|1 I really hope someone with direct contacts or friends is able to see that tweet and get the some help The tweet was the best thing possible|1 To answer your initial question like most choices these days it depends on the level of risk and current health status of your family members Having a number of elderly family members with comorbid conditions Id say buy it if youve got the cash but do your research on how to safely use it how to clean the system and how to use and care for related equipment masks nasal prongs lines etc For any pnumonia the goal is to get the mucus and fluid build up out of the lungs Expectorants can definitely help with this along with encouraging routine deep breathing and deep coughing to bring up the gunk If you use an OTC expectorant or any other nonprescribed drugs check with the persons pharmacist to ensure there are no interactions with anything theyre taking In a pinch drugscom has a good quality drug interaction checker Cough supressants should only be used if a persons cough is so severe that its preventing them from getting any rest and nothing else is helping cough drops tea honey etc Gargling salt water can help a sore throat and wash away stuck mucus If the person has existing breathing issues ensure they have all their rescue meds well stocked people are notorious for letting inhalers expire or run out if they have scripts for salbutamol or atrovent then familiarize yourself with the use of these meds and their side effects and get a proper spaceraerochamber even if the patient says they dont need it A nebulizer for these types of meds may be helpful check with their doctor accordinglyHumidified air is key to breaking up secretions nebulizing distilled water or saline can help with this If no nebulizer a hot shower or sinkbasin filled with hot water and a towel draped over the head and sink to keep the humidity in while the patient breathes deeply Have the person sleep on an incline to prevent secretions from settling over a larger lung surface area when laying flat And of course drink loads of fluids preferably warm ones Besides the O2 concentrator a finger sat monitor is important Other things to consider would be a peak flow meter an incentive spirometer and a humidifier|1 Thanks for the reply Gov could drag in a whole family while virus is indiscriminate and could spare someone from victims family Either way stay safe|1 Chinese people save a third of their income on average|1 Im so glad you posted this So many redditors were taking some kind of intellectual highground stating how masks that dont have filters do nothing etc etc with zero knowledge or basis for that judgement infuriating when people dont know what theyre talking about start pretending to be knowledgeable in an event where misinformation could kill people|0 Probably safer there than in the US|1 Yeah but 73 and obese does not mean automatic death Even with his profile his chance of death is probably only 515 Idk obviously this is hard to estimate but its not a death sentence even for someone with Trumps presumed health profile|1 All a cover up for Abes 2020 Olympics Theres going to a metric shit ton of casualties if not already|0 Think of it as a shift pattern u switch off someone else startsdont worry |0 Just watched Cuomo news briefing No decision made yet but seems to be leaning towards canceling|0 I hear yousitting around watching TV eating and drinking for two weeks sounds goodbut haha Think everyone is starting to go out of their mind Thats awesome that your quarantines have been lifted though Crazy times we are living in|1 See So youre happy to risk tens to hundreds of translators life simply because the US wants to have boots in the ground What is the benefit to having so for China Is the US going to bring their own supplies book their own hotels fix their own food and bring their own translators If not itll be nothing but a burden And even if they do all that I cant see it benefitting the situation in China right now|1 It infuriates me that a lot of British people compare this virus to the flu or claim that it only effects the elderly I live with my grandparents who practically raised me My grandma is in poor health and is diabetic and I dont want her to catch this virus Why are people so fucking selfish|0 People could go to groceries and pharmacies until mid Feb but no public transportation and almost no nonessential business opened its not official but some factories kept running after Wuhan lockdown as complained by the workers|0 And I think this is why the WHO declared the emergency Theyre more worried about countries that have horrible healthcare systems and India would be hit hard I watch this Youtube channel where a guy goes around rescuing Cobras that get into peoples homes and the way these outlying districts live is absolutely primitive Theres no regular handwashing People eat with their hands out of the same dish It would spread like wildfire|0 Where is a reprieve for our businesses to shore up confidence All the govt has to do is say businesses get to keep sales tax collected last month and delay our property taxes for land owners those bills are due right now the money is at the businesses right now If we can keep that to pay our employees we can keep businesses alive and home owners would get almost a month of mortgage payments in most cases by not having to pay H1 property tax done in seconds money in the economy no arranging payments why is this hard to see right now If any politician does this they get business and small business help them|1 My capitals suburb town has 600k people in it lol|1 Human Malware is the best Ive heard so far|1 Imo it would be more beneficial to them to get through this quickly People will forget all their mishaps by the time the election comes around If it drags out it will still be fresh in peoples minds|1 its so funny that Im reading about this now because a few days ago I convince my husband to pick up a big day for our bathroom to just give it a try not just because of the toilet paper panic that people seem to be having but because apparently its healthier for you we got one and it ended up being the higherend model and we decided we didnt need the higherend model so we were going to exchange it for a lowerend one To our surprise its now a one to three month wait to get any of them now So I guess were going to be keeping the fancy model Lol|1 whether rightfully or not but stock market did fall when Sanders won in Indiana or was it Illinois i dont remmeber and that was before the corona panic|1 Hes praying for you bud|1 No Really put your foot down You arent going|0 RNA virus thats what it is Its great at mutation|1 Ew Sounds like a disgusting country lol|1 Korea is doing far worse than basically all its neighbors in containing the virus though Compare infection rates of Korea w Japan Taiwan etc|0 Im trying to get World War C to catch on|0 I missed that one anyone have a link|0 Did I say anything about international shipping and ports No I said international travelLock down INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL and monitor ports and points of contact quarantine anyone from out of the country within the port geniusYoure so enraged by your horrible worldview that you cant even accurately represent the point|0 RIPYa know he strikes me as the kind of guy who would sacrifice himself that way|0 Lol wait until you hear about the cost of living vs the average wages here|1 Hardly any meat left or milk No TP a little bit of paper towelNo Bread except bagels which was all I wanted yay Im going to freeze themThe rice dry beans a lot of canned beans are gone Peoples attitudes are weird too Angryafraid stressed My general take is Id rather stay home The only reason I went out I prepped before all of this current mess was because I wanted chicken breast I had to wait for the truck and ask for a man to go in the back who came back with a box half full I think the whole box was gone before he got to the shelf to stock it|0 Calm the fuck down and go outside to get some fresh air Panicking wont help you in any situation Also like others have said dont live 247 in this subreddit Its only going to make you go crazy|0 I blocked four twats on reddit the last two days|0 Yes obviously Testing does cost money after all But doing it this way and prompting insurers to raise future rates slightly means the costs will be spread across everyone instead of being borne just by individuals being tested Which is what you want to encourage testing|1 Thats the mistake Wuhan made before After lockdown Wuhan government not just build 2 new hospital all the confirmed case were bring to temporary hospital All the suspicious cases also quarantined in hotel or university dormitory|0 You should be okay to cross They may have you self quarantine and monitor your symptoms though Just got back from Michigan this morning In good health though They gave me a handout at the border after a brief screening and let me know what I should do if I begin to feel unwell|1 Its about time the time the world notice China CCP is not a friend nor a business partner even to their own people|0 In the US theyve seemingly confused Kids dont get severe symptoms with Kids are immune and assumed theyre not a risk Now that were seeing cases like the teacher collapsing in Georgia yesterday and these two bus drivers today maybe people will wake up Its pathetic that my country is more concerned with the economy than people fucking dying but I guess thats why we have the big orange buffoon in office in the first place|0 Yeah just like that HIV outbreak|1 Op is going to die|0 Alot of the governments dont take it seriously or downplay it or delay measures that cost too muchSweden is following behind closely and they refuse to take steps like they have in other nations|0 Go crazy|0 The government still needs a scientific board approval|1 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well there are no cases in Madagascar yet The human race still has some hope if they close their port and airport|1 Chemo screws up your immune system either way you cant to a lot about it And whole body is out of balance Three or more months AFTER going on the last treatment immune system still havent recovered and those people are at the risk too|1 Poland has a face mask shortage And we dont even have a single confirmed case yet The shortage either is there or is coming|0 Yikes Im not so sure about the 1 mortality guess It is proving to be around 253 in most countries who are experiencing this At 2 and at the contraction level in the article we would see 14 Million to 30 Million deaths in the US|0 I hope this gets picked up by the UK news and broadcast widely How many infected people are they sending home and not testing|0 There is a logic in stocking up Our government in Canada is telling us to be prepared for a twoweek selfquarantine If you are sick you dont want to have to go out and infect people if you are responsible But stores have a justintime approach to stocking up so when people start buying more than normal the stock becomes low People see empty shelves and a little switch gets flipped in their brain and they start to panic buy|0 Everyone Everyone is lying|0 My wondering issay we close schools for 23 weekswhat do we do after How long are we realistically talking Until May June July 6 months Like what is this going to take|1 I agree they are correctly characterizing the evidence glad to hear were all on the same page|1 I dont think they really know They say she recovered at home a few days after the 23rd but had no interaction with other people before feeling sick So Im guessing that means she was contagious but not sick yetThe troublesome part is that the two initial patients came in on a Jan 22nd flight while she came in a on Jan 23rd flight If the virus is causing false negatives who knows how many people could be infected|0 I love how the mainstream media seems to be resisting with all its might to acknowledge thisBecause they have excellent healthcare paid sick leave paid vacation high salaries etc etc|1 You make it sound like the US was the first to implement bans|1 Moron governor|0 Super spreader for sure|1 Its not so much a question whether you are positive but whether you are negative and not just a latent spreader|0 In one of the threads about potential drugs being researched to help covid19 patients doxycycline was listed as potentially beneficial Believe it was on this sub the link was to a huge paper on all the things both pharmaceutical and from Chinese medicine that are being tested Quite a few non antiviral drugs are showing promise I was very glad to read it|1 The government just wants to keep shit going until November That is the 1 goal What we sacrifice to get there or how 2021 looks does not factor into anything|0 This comment made me laugh out loud for the first time in days Thank you for distracting me for three seconds|1 That makes it all that much worse that we had forewarning and still havent responded appropriately|0 Youre being a bit much here lol|1 Well the first confirmed case was just over 2 weeks ago so that long at the very maximum However 4 were infected only a few days ago|0 From the CDCat this time the virus is currently NOT spreading in the community in the United States butMore cases are likely to be identified in the coming days including more cases in the United States Its also likely that persontoperson spread will continue to occur including in the United States|1 Infowars crowd are gonna freak the fk out|0 Well fuck|0 The Chinese Government already placed a bunch of restrictions made some new laws and regulations on the consumption of bush meat some areas even banned it but China has always had problems with enforcing laws And corruption runs deep with local governments|0 But he didnt provide any additional value to society the masks were already madeThe people paying a lot for masks disagree with you Getting goods where they are needed is a value addedLike if someone could sneak bottled water into Disneyland and sell it for 5 dollars a bottle instead of 10 they would be meeting a need and adding value|1 Lol|1 Thank you for sharing My thoughts are with you and your family|1 This 100000 figure is pretty meaninglessI fear we are losing sight of the fact that there is a difference between1 Actual current cases unknown2 Actual current confirmed cases which is a known figure but never reported3 Total confirmed cases which is the number everyone is quoting but which is pretty useless in the grand scheme of thingsNow that the majority of confirmed cases in China have been declared cured I think we should move away from reporting total confirmed cases and report on current confirmed cases instead Of course neither figure is likely to represent the true position but every day that passes the total confirmed cases figure becomes more and more meaninglessTo illustrate this the John Hopkins dashboardhttpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 as of now reports100330 total confirmed cases55694 total recoveries and3408 total deathsThis means reporting the 100000 figure in the media gives the wrong impression that there are currently 100000 people out there who are infected when the reality is that the number of current confirmed cases is closer to 40000 or 50000 assuming there is no doubling up with reinfections and the likeI hope they stop using the total and start using a better metric to estimate the current status of the outbreak If someone tells me that Ebola has infected more than 1000000 people random figure it doesnt give me any information as to how many are infected now|0 Anarcho communist doesnt make any sense Communism is big government anarchism is no government Polar opposites dont describe Each other except to the degree that they are opposite I cant say I am a socialist conservative because the values arent compatible between socialism and conservatism Cant say Im an anarcho communist because communists want a dictator to control their life and anarchists want to be their own master|1 I had hoped they would utilize those ships and travelers to study things like this But it is important to understand its limitations There is a testing bias Laboratory testing by PCR had been conducted prioritising symptomatic or highrisk groups Now my observation is that this does NOT obviate the data but it likely underestimates the number of asymptomatic cases to a great degree stupid me go look at their stated limitationsOh I looked at their limitation discussion Our study is not free from limitations First laboratory tests by PCR were conducted focusing on symptomatic cases especially at the early phase of the quarantine If asymptomatic cases were missed as a result of this it would mean we have underestimated the asymptomatic proportion Second it is worth noting that the passengers and crew whose data were employed in our analysis do not constitute a random sample from the general population Considering that most of the passengers were 60years and older the nature of the age distribution may lead to underestimation if older individuals tend to experience more symptoms An age standardised asymptomatic proportion would be more appropriate in that case Third the presence of symptoms in cases with COVID19 may correlate with other factors unrelated to age including prior health conditions such as cardiovascular disease diabetes andor immunosuppression Therefore more detailed data documenting the baseline health of the individuals including the presence of underlying diseases or comorbidities would be useful to remove the bias in estimates of the asymptomatic proportionSo what this does is to a degree provide a minimum percentage of individuals that will be asymptomatic and that is around 18 per the studyWhen you start to look at things like young adults and children being conspiuously absent from the 70K Chinese descriptive data and studies like these linked below one preprint Quite possibly the percentage of asymptomatic is likely much highter with a substantial part of the overall percentage of asymptomaticvery mild disease being in younger ages with a concentration in those 20 and below If this is the case it is supportive of the seemingly extreme community mitigation actions being taken in many areas of the world httpsacademicoupcomcidadvancearticledoi101093cidciaa2015766416httpsacademicoupcomcidadvancearticledoi101093cidciaa2015766416httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1|1 I have accidentally made some sort of solution that smokedum I was in the open air and watered it down copiously into the compost pit the hot compost I dont want to kill microbes in the active pit Normally what I do is water everything down so well and also wash with soap after the bleach or ammonia with a bio friendly soap and that provides a buffer so normally next time I clean I dont have issues Rabbit urine is high in ammonia naturally hence the accidental reaction one time when I missed scrubbing a corner on a bleach application day Ive also used DMQ and washed everything really well after I dont wash bottles and food bowls in anything but soap and water or bleach solution bleach generally does the job honestly|1 Thanks Obama|1 Chris Witty is an incompetent fucktard who will be directly responsible for tens of thousands of deaths|0 I booked an AA flight from HK though Im coming from Mainland to the US for today I cancelled it fortunately they will allow me to use the ticket at another time because I was worried they would end flights and I wouldnt be able to get back I imagine most people on this sub think I should be quarantined with he people on the base in California|0 He is a complete and utter moron|0 I have no respect for the Walmart family Do they feel better about themselves Do they feel all puffed up about how much money they have Please vote in November|1 Its only been passed by the House not the Senate yet The GOP may try to sneak in other items in the bill so well see how it goes|1 Thats the death rate not the infection rate Im not saying there isnt merit to flattening the curve but with a death rate curve literally the same amount are dying just over a longer period of time|0 If it gets bad in the US I can see Disney doing something like this with Black Widow|0 A lot of scientists and mathematicians Im a scientist in training will use stats from other places to make predictions even if they know that it will be way worse here Its impossible to know just how bad itll be in the US but if you look at other countries who we believe handled it better than our current efforts and then extrapolate from their current results you can at least get a lower bound Its not that they necessarily believe we wont have a worse cfr but as a scientist you cant make claims without evidence and you definitely cant do that in times of a pandemic when what you say will be magnified and repeated because youre an expertIn private conversation most scientists I know working in this field are terrified And pretty much every lab I know is prepping to go remote|0 Not necessarily Modelling shows a virus is more likely to mutate to increase symptoms and thus more likely to cause complications in more dense environments Its in quarantine low density conditions where the virus has less chance to spread where it is likely to mutate where the symptoms are eased and thus is less noticeableIts one of the reasons why quarantine is essential as any severely harmful mutations are stopped from spreading|0 People will start panicking when its too late and cause massive civil unrest Im glad my wife and I have been prepping our government has been woeful on this issue|0 The reagents cost 050 per test The biggest cost is depreciation of the machines If you run only a few tests the depreciation cost per machine will be massive If you run a ton of tests then per test depreciation will be much lowerIf you run millions of tests then the per test cost is much lower|0 NOOOO Tom Hanks is the shit|1 You guys never show the number of recoveries thotf is up with that|0 I think I can speak on the whole behalf of ME when I saw we APPRECIATE clients like you Thank you for being respectful and considerate when youre sick We cant thank you enough for that And Im so happy to hear that we impact so many lives in such a positive way Thanks for the comment youre a sweetheart |1 This will definitely go down in American history|1 Ngl thanks to Corona weve completely forgotten about Brexit which is good so maybe we can finally realise how important staying in the eu is|1 Doesnt Iran have a way higher death rate|0 Better have those babies quickly coronavirus is supposed to impact testes and sperm production|1 Interesting lens to look at it through We should definitely have experts in ethics in the room during this crisis management I tend to be pretty rational and utilitarian so that makes sense Dont ask me how I solve the trolley problem|1 This was meant for the removed comment above hope you dont mind it left hereHow we treat those in prison says a lot about us as a speciesA rapist getting raped or a killer getting killed while incarcerated might be poetic justice but long ago we decided our society would not inflict cruel or unusual punishment on even the worst of usThis man deserves punishment and he is receiving it Do we want him to spend the next 12 years contemplating his grievous decision and being a better man in the end for it and returning to productive society afterOr will our bitter fury allow for more pain in the name of retribution A man gets fucked in his nose hole for years and he will not emerge as something salvagable He will be broken and no good would be found down the road not merely for him but for all around himSo easy it is to pass judgement in these times and how easy it is to miss the idea that its not about them its about taking the action that benefits society the most down the road If that means choking down the primal desire for revenge to focus on rehabilitating educating and healing those that hurt us then we must swallow that pill|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 It really sad to hear these storiesIn poor countries I would understand but US is one of the richest countries in the world and the only thing they are doing is to bailout big businesses and letting ordinary people sufferWish you the best we are all in this together|1 Thats so low One province in Canada with less people has done more than all of the US combined|0 I agree with all of those possible actions I shouldnt have said it was too late for a lockdown of a US metropolitan area It really wouldnt ever be possible with our current society But still a certain percentage of citizens might stay at home and limit their movements for a week or two if they think itll keep them safe|1 Why are we NOT testing This is out right strange and bizarre behavior from the current leadership I dont get it especially after they criticize heavily our adversaries Iran and China for not being transparent|0 a prepping isnt necessarily just a crazy person thing to do as this situation is proving There is the crazed fanatical level of prepping that you might see from some people who go overboard although there are much stupider hobbies you could have if so youve got the extra moneytime to spend on it and thats your thing then why not imo and then theres just being prudent and making the basic preparations that all disaster preparedness experts recommend Preppers come in both forms and everything in betweenbsince when was it a republican thingyou seem very misinformed|0 They dont care about their economythey are the highestranking officials in China who like the highestranking everywhere ONLY care about themselves and theirs Those ranking lower are likely more scared about what those above will do to them and their families for raising bad news and not handling this like it could be handled at that level|0 Its not that people hate him because hes him although Im sure some of us do they hate his inaction The same can be said for most governments dealing with this outbreak Poor choices are everywhere and its very difficult not to voice our outrageWhile I agree with keeping general political discussions away from this sub I dont think we should be prevented from discussing our governments choices that directly relate to COVID19|1 A Super spreader lives there|1 We literally have evidence flu season this year causing normal numbers of pneumonia no rise in number of death by flulike diseases There is 0 evidence to think even 1 person in the US has this virus Even if there is going from there to zombie apocalypse level scenarios is not reasonable But here we are reddit thinks civilization will collapse in April|0 You have probably seen this paperhttpsdoiorg101148radiol2020200432 If their data is good then that seems like a fantastic use of CT no It only works if they have upper respiratory problems alreadyThe scans Ive see dont include the URS and UR symptoms arent common They look for LRS features|1 You either have the panic mode ones usually olderparentsetc and the polar oppositeThats basically the same side Both are scared the later just have no idea how to handle the situation and try to solve it through sarcasm Its a sign of insecurity|0 Its always been a small market IMO the shops are a much better experience The level of consistency quality and control you get at a shop is getting harder to match for small outfits selling under table Especially for the commercial products like edibles and tinctures|1 We can put it down to incompetenceEither way their grasp on numbers last week cannot have been good given how quickly they are climbing this weekAnecdotally and what got me thinking my friend with symptoms was not find referred a test when he presented to a clinic in koln in February But yes perhaps we should not attribute to malice what can be put down to mere incompetence|1 Yep Theyre no match for US military Its amusing really|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rConoravirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Right but once their players get sick theyre out of business|0 Not agreeing with him but many people are against hosting them because its often an gigantic amount of money for a prestige project and in many cases2004 greecebrasil olympics and Football WC the stadiums dont get used anymore and turn into ruins Sadly that also leads to these events getting hosted by dictatorships or countries with heavy corruption problems like china and quatar I think its sad that it could hit Tokyo because i think while its also over budget its a positive example where the new stadiums could actually get used and most people seem to be very enthusiastic and are buying tickets like crazy|0 It is my unprofessional and only slightly researched opinion that this has been going around for 1 month longer than we think From a few articles and documents Ive seen it probably started around the end of Nov Again Im not a professional but theres an article stating that around the first of Dec the chat app WeChat started to see high numbers of messages about a second outbreak of SARS True Who knows but it makes sense to me The cases that alerted doctors to COVID were late Dec and I bet before that there was an outbreak of flu|0 Yes this morning I didnt even fact check their numbersdue to being so pissed at the nonchalance of the post as a whole|0 I was a teacher in England before moving to canada all my friends from PGCE are being told they will absolutely not be closing downBut I guess thats what they were saying in Italy 2 weeks ago|1 I would guess that the infection rate for the US will be a bit lower on the scale With 24 people sqm you will have plenty of areas that will remain unaffected plus there probably is a higher degree of social cohesion in these areas Im not 100 certain of that since Im not an American but it would make sense from my experiencesIf this virus hits hard it will be the big cities it will wreak havoc in|0 a respectable pay raise if people show up through the end of AprilI dont understand how this could be interpreted other than incentivising workers to show up even if theyre not feeling completely healthy|0 its funny cause we are seeing different things I mean southeast asia in january and february they had maximum a temperature check on the airports so if they only got the symptomatics and there are 50 who doesnt show symptoms how the hell dont they have an outbreak like a really big one cause it has been a loong timeeven Singapore yes they have an extraordinary system in place but if they would have likely miss so many people who are asympt and yet we are not seeing an widespread outbreak it must mean somethingother cities in china too they rely on temperature checksso unless the asymp do not spread as effectively as sympt people or the weather really helps IDK its very confusing|0 I just dont understand why China would push propaganda on reddit Reddit has received a 150 million investment from Tencent the Chinese tech giant behind WeChat and League of Legends|0 Before the outbreak I had already decided to not go to Vegas for my friends birthday late April for monetary reasons My mom is the one that recently told me that I should still go she saw round trip flights for less than 150 wasnt really sure how to respond to that|1 Happy cake day|1 If masks didnt work your dad wouldnt need them He could have also planned ahead like the rest of us Its unfortunate that healthcare workers especially those in charge of clinics and hospitals chose to be less informed and prepared than those of us they laughed at Lying to us wont make things better There are plenty of reputable medical professionals saying masks do work but that they should be priorities for healthcare workers Oh and until a day or two ago industrial masks werent approved for healthcare anyway so we were arguing apples and oranges|0 I think this is easy for most to mix up I am one of them what gets me is the mixup between youre and your That one seems easy to me but I see the mixup often|1 Surprisingly youre not wrong|1 httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrieshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountriesThat way you can see a daytoday up to date progress report with accurate info Youre country only has 2 severe cases and the rest are either new or underway to recovery Though I dont think you have much to worry about its better to be safe especially if you have been sick for a while Just have a good personal bubble and use hand sanitizer with 90 alcohol content like its lotion My father is somewhat paranoid but well prepared first responder Another trick for someone who doesnt want people to touch them from that same father if someone is touching you and you want them to stop say in as loud and firm a voice Stop Dont touch me You want to cause other people to glance at you If people see you asking someone to stop touching you and they laugh generally people let the aggressor know hes being a dick If he persists let him know you no longer want to be around him since hes being such an inconsiderate dick Turn around and walk away If he tries to keep going say this as close to verbatim as you can I have asked you to stop touching me I dont want you to touch me because I dont want to get sick If you keep ignoring me when I say I dont want to get sick and mocking me because I want to practice good hygiene and health then I have nothing more to do with you Please either respect me or leave me aloneBe calm and respectful while you say this and let them know youre dead serious If they are making you feel as if youre compromised in your health then drop that dead weight Anyone who takes an illness like this as a joke isnt educated and probably doesnt care in the end Theyre inconsiderate and worth about as much as my shit so drop em They arent worth you getting sick Find a better friend|0 Thanks updated the text above to include confirmed|1 Pneumonia creates longterm respiratory problems for a lot of people|0 In Vo Romagnani points out with the isolation of infected subjects the total number of patients fell from 88 to 7 at least 10 times less within 710 days The isolation of the infected symptomatic or nonsymptomatic was not only able to protect other people from contagion but also appeared to protect against the serious evolution of the disease in infected subjects because the cure rate in infected patients if isolated was in 60 of cases equal to just 8 daysThat last part is interesting|0 I think trumpvirus needs to be trending right now We need to be connecting the ridiculous and pathetic actions of the CDC directly back to where the buck stops|0 The good news is that many people like that also dont do much traveling We can hope that if any of those people were to contract the virus they stay in their tiny bubbles|1 Uk definitely has it|1 My moms on his email list They were casual colleagues for years and hes been quite funny since this attention to him started Hes glad people are feeling informed but was quite surprised to see he now has a wikipedia page When I first saw this posted I reached out if she knew him and her response was not well but hes one of the smartest and most logical people I know If he says something you can trust it|1 Very true |1 yeah|1 The problem is UV can cause skin irritation You know no one is on the bus when they use those lights right|0 This is what I thought too If they they stick together they become bigger particles and also saliva is their bonding agent So there is indeed strong evidence that masks work|1 My first ever Reddit award I only wish it had been for something more positive|1 Very much like what residents in wuhan did a couple months ago cant wait to see the other versions due to lack of testing especially here|1 Yeah but like wtf did he contract that shit IF he came from SFO Glad i dont work there anymore|0 The first US Case was on January 21st 3 Weeks ago You would think that people from 3 weeks ago that were sick have already wandered their way into a hospital by now to get treated for pneumonia|0 Doesnt really matter All candidates goes through an approval process by the CCP Its like picking your poison theyre in CCPs pocket either way|1 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 Trump is wrong about testing People with known exposure are supposed to be tested He opens his mouth and people die|0 Seattle fucking baffles me From my understanding we have reason to believe theyve had community spread since Somewhere between feb 1st and 7th So they should be well into the level of crisis that Wuhan had from our understanding of the virulence incubation and everything But we arent seeing that I have no idea whats going on I might be missing a key difference but i really have no idea|0 What do you do when your roommate is the selfish person and youre trying to lock shit down|0 Well keep going that way and those churches are going to get slammed hard Churches and other houses of worship are a prime infection point for the coronavirus as shown in South Korea and Singapore|1 Are you being sarcastic|0 I remember that John Campbell in one of his video messages said the virus is most contagious 2 to 5 days after infection He was citing a research but I cant remember which I have heard the same from other sources but right now there are thousands of news sources a day which I cant record Anyways the explanation that it spreads by coughs when it first infects the upper respiratory pathway is convincing Try to Google I have to run nowEdit well I did Google it looks like there is a lot of conflicting data out there On research to support substantial asymptomatic infection is httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022020025866v2httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022020025866v2 We estimated the asymptomatic proportion at 179 95 CrI 155202 with most of the infections occurring before the start of the 2week quarantine|1 Everyone criticizing Trump for this Many Asian countries did the same thing so chill outWhere is the criticism of India for hoarding all the vaccines and antibiotics they produceNow is not the time to play politics|0 The idea is that parents will end up bringing their children together anyway In each group or parents theres a SAH parent somewhere Depending on region there arent that many Therefore for those that cant stay home from work theyd drop them off at some SAHIn 1919 most women were SAH so that would make a considerable differenceMind you even when knowing that Im still in favour of closing But its a very tough economical decision if you believe it wont make that much of a difference got spread yet a large difference on your economyBut in a group of five families even in the absence of a SAH or someone not working 95 thats each parent taking 12 days off over a two week periodIn schools you bring easily hundreds of families together I think I know which situation is better Even if the situation since 1919 has changed and families will still need to bring children together it wont be as bad as in schoolsBut hey in our country we get told children dont get that sick so why bother Because children have parents Parents that sometimes have health issues and sometimes care for their elderly parents But what do I know|1 This is amazing|1 Ban was announced|0 Well its obviously just unchecked capitalism at work But it wasnt really a big thing before Airbnb Theyve also done a lot to fight cities trying to enforce regulations that would lessen the problemThere are sites like VRBO that have been around for a long time doing pretty much the same thingAirbnb just simplified the concept and put it in a cleaner UI I use Airbnb and have hosted on it as well I think its a great platform for people to make extra cash but it does create the issue of people who already have a lot of money using it to control local real estate|1 I mean its not surreal the reason they recommended it is because it was shown to work by 3 studies during the SARS epidemic and by 4 studies during the H1N1 epidemicI have no idea if it actually works but I bought a bunch on Amazon so Ill give it a try if it comes to that|0 Cant blame everything on Trump and the CDC this is a really bad decision Cancelling large gatherings needs to be done to prevent large outbreaks not after the virus is out of control Same problem in Seattle with their Comiccon with a projection of 100k|0 Its preparation for something if nothing more its a new level of fear to live under A new method of control a new way to feign our superiority complex of ability to control masses of peopleI just saw in local news the state of Georgia is quarantining people in mobile medical units at Hard Labor Creek state park for those who cant self quarantine and dont need hospital stayLocal news has like 45 headline posts on virus but still inviting hundreds of thousands of people to Augusta for Masters Golf event in a few weeks As of a week ago its still on Baseball season is about to start NCAA basketball will they go along with the MSM threat and cancel events Or will they value the of ticket sales and vendor sales over the value of protection of the general public This is the main theme for me They pump pump pump the masses full of fear and hysteria and then continue to host events that are fueling the spread of the pandemicWhat will happen if they are forced to cancel or keep it to a minimum allow only the players and necessary staff and press pass crews to attend sporting events Will businesses go bankrupt at an unprecedented rate I believe some will here in Augusta where many restaurants rely heavily on that single week of the Masters to book profits for the year Im not saying that they arent profitable for the rest of the year but the Single event does pad the bottom lines heavily What is and has been happening in the stock market is that investors are realizing that if this virus is extrapolated out to a logical conclusion of prevention or failure to prevent either will force a new era for businessA possibility of a new era of interaction just to maintain supply and demand in the case of pandemics an admission of the frailty of our current socioeconomic global system A reality checking in on the unreality that had previously prevailed right into the mouth of viral media madness This is the cost If you pump and spew fear and isolationism then you dont get to have sporting events at liesure You dont get business as usual because business as usual means highest fatality rates So now we see what the system truly values lives or ticket sales Lives or lines They are spinning this hysteria and it has now spun out of their control but they dont want to let go of the illusion of control|0 Welcome to your national declaration of emergency brought to you by Walmart Walgreens Target and Rouche|1 Looks like school just got out|1 I live in Seattle and have been limiting exposure to others for weeks and wearing a n95 mask outside since Friday I keep getting weird looks but my gut feeling is that it is the right thing to do in order to keep myself and others safe I am a childcare provider|1 ride a bikego on a hikerun do pushups and pullups at the nearest local horizontal metal barplay videogames with friends on discordorganize a small dinner party probability is still infinitesmal that 56 people will have any exposuredrink wine on video chat with friendslearn to code or learn to anything thanks to the internetbuy art supplies and do an art try linocutting|1 Yup which means the number of confirmed cases is useless in discussing how far its spread|0 Of course they will advertise it regardless You really think the news cares about some random burger flippers enough to cover their stories when they get fired for totally unrelated reasons|0 Many will die in either case What distinguishes experts from laymen is that they have the knowledge experience and attention to go beyond many to enumerate all possible interventions to analyze their effects and viability to quantify the casualties and effects on the society to plan not for a month but years ahead to take into account second and third order effects and finally to present that information in a form accessible to politiciansAs for Dr Hanage he is publishing research in genetics and genomics not population interventions These are very distinct fields|0 It is used in treating more than Malaria as well safely Stare your parents in the eye and tell them I would rather you die a horrible death than risk using a drug that has minimal side effects is cheap and readily available because I must see a double blind study first and until then need to assume that this drug will kill you in some new magical way If this was some new drug I might agree with you but in this case you are not just 100 wrong you are an immoral monster|0 Also if they dont help why do the medical workers need themMedical student here so I can shed some light on this We undergo respiratory mast fit tests so we each have a batch of personalized masks for a perfect seal follow proper protocol clean shaven etc|1 httpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3876197 this article addresses possible worse effect of virus on east Asians |0 bbbbut racism|0 Vancouverite here Ive heard ppl recently flew from Iran were shocked how the airport doesnt even have additional checkpoints Basically selfreport to a couple questions then youre through|0 Sometimes I wish there were two species of humans so the rest of us wouldnt have the embarrassment of sharing the species with creatures like these|1 Best 2020 Ive ever had|1 i appreciate you standing up for the older generation We as a society are so shallow that we dont even see the emotional support as support The thing is by the age of 4050 we start to realize the importance of the older generation because the burden of life for a midage person becomes heavier and heavier|1 Yeahall their servants nannies and housekeepers take the subway into Manhattan Not good And Uber aint safe either My rich clients are probably making plans to GTFO already|0 In the book Israel put up walls around the entire country offered Palestinians to come in some did most didnt then shut the country off completely and survived almost unscathed from what I recall|1 Ideally things like mortgagesstudent loans would be deferred for 3 months interest free instead of paying against them|1 Japan is absolutely hiding their numbers|0 Well it was this NYT piece that came out yesterday titled Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly Like a Pandemic where Dr Anthony Fauci head of NAIAD at the NIH is quoted as saying Its very very transmissible and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemicHeres an ArchiveishttpsArchiveis link for you httpsarchiveisMggc6httpsarchiveisMggc6|1 Youre absolutely right He should not be riding all over town touching everything without knowing But honestly whats his choice|0 Has nothing to do with me thinking Im great and a lot more to do with when I moved to NYC in the 80s Im basically yelling get off my lawn from the perspective of someone who lived a much different NY story Its not rocket science|1 Yes but Copyright is taking f serious here |1 4 out of 5 americans dont want to go in to work|0 PLUS THEY DONT WORK SO STOP USING THEM SO I CAN USE THEM|1 Both China AND the West are culpable They are not mutually exclusive you knowBut I would say that China is more culpable because there is a difference between simply being complacent and actively silencingarresting the scientists and doctors who tried to nip this pandemic in the bud|1 This is an interesting paper Needs a lot of minor editing at a minimum but interesting message Lancet and New England journal of medicine are two huge impact medical journals that have opened sections just for coronavirus publications Im assuming a statistician was involved Also I would also recommend that you remove this draft from a public website as it could be easily stolen and published which would be awful for all of your colleagues who put in the work|1 Sadly shell probably end up in jail in a couple weeks|0 Thats a funny thought what a jokeLOL|1 I can only speak for my own country but theyve gone on public record lying about confirmed information about the virus at least 5 times now contradicted their own statements refused to stop flights and so on Theyre either incredibly incompetent traitors to their country or they have alternative motives Take your pick|0 Sorry I dont follow this about smokers|0 You believe in leaders being rigorously questioned and having to defend their actions then|0 Plus its important to keep in mind that antibiotics negate the birth control pills effectiveness so you must double up on protection while on antibiotics and for up to 10 days afterwards talk to your doctor about the specific med youre onIn addition antibiotic use can lead to yeast infections in some people because of it kililng the good bacteria with the bad Just not worth it|0 Ive heard this brought up Or even comparing it with chicken poxshingles Is that a reasonable fear or |0 Ive heard the argument before but the same argument can be used to justify Unit 731 or Auschwitz which although have been human atrocities did contribute to lots of medical advancements that have went on to save countless livesIm just not buying the argument It just feels better to put them into proper quarantine rooms on land|1 Well my sons in reception and I dont really want to take him out of school for potentially months when hes just in the middle of settling in and learning to read etc The kids and myself and my partner are all young and healthy and not really at risk I understand the risk to other people but were following advice not to go out much etc School and supermarket is basically all we do nowMy plan is to let him stay in school until Easter holidays ideally and then play it by ear about maybe not going back in after that Also my city only has around 6 confirmed cases Even if its 20x that 120 cases in a city of 300K isnt really a lot|1 agreed is not lawenforced oops their automated systems just sent you to collectionsHeavy Breathing I am altering the dealPray I dont alter it any further|1 In the end what needs to happen is around 70 of people need to become immune so the virus dies out due to herd immunity Right now each person passes it on to 253 other people on average but if 70 of people are are immune then 253 drops to less than 1 This is going to happen over the next 13 years whether theres a vaccine or not a vaccine could just prevent a lot of deaths|1 Isolation means keeping the kids out of public gatherings instead of museums and sports stuff go for family hikes etc as well as NO PLAY DATES When the kids get together they are EACH exposed to EVERYONE any of them have encountered Its a pandemic not armageddon but its ridiculous to increase your exposure risk|0 The good gas masks are made in Italy and on 45 week backorder anyway|1 Anyone who tries to circumvent these drastic measures is a selfish inconsiderate bastardIts clear this is not a draconian shutdown its also an expectation that people will fo the right thing and not travel via the UKPeoples lives mainly the elderly are at stakeThis isnt about the futility of Trumps order its about people doing the right thing and abiding by the orderSaving lives is the priority|0 Get used to it In Event 201 pandemic coronavirus simulationhttpwwwcenterforhealthsecurityorgevent201scenariohtml they even had a fake news conference dictating the need to take state control of all social media channels to stop the spread of disinformation|0 Nice That will keep you entertained If I had a Psnow subscription Id give you my PSN name but I hardly play online games|1 Honestly testing celebrities might be what finally woke people up in the United States It wasnt until Tom Hanks and Rudy Gobert tested positive that people began to realize it was real In the long run it might have saved lives to test them quickly|1 Ccp serves ccp Ccp news has no relationship with fact|0 Huge PR blunder Too many anxious Americans need somewhere to vent their frustrations|0 Pence will pray it away and trump thinks a normal flu shot might save you|1 It should be more than 1000 as the cost of living is so high these days The government really needs to help their citizens during this crazy time or the backlash is going to get so much worse Im one of those people that doesnt have paid time off I groom dogs for a living and once we shut down im going to be screwed for awhile|0 all we know its a communist regime nothing new but all the fake news take the data from it|0 Apparently his parents also have it They must be scared and sad right now|0 Because of a 0000016 chance obviously|1 At this point I have no doubt that history will judge that the USA was one bottom 10 of all countries in terms of readiness containment treatment and management|0 At the bibpacket pickup expo there were also hundreds of kids there for some field trip thing Seems like the best way to get something to spread hundreds of kids crammed on busses going back home to all over LA and Orange County|1 Cries in UK|0 China took measures more extreme than Italy has yet taken after 56 people had died|0 really strange here Maybe the government want to lower the statistics OMG consider selfquarantine if symptoms persist Go to hospital in case the symptoms get worse|0 But not everyone works on a lap top Im a nurse|1 I dont have insurance so Ill just take one for the team |0 You will always see Xi for good PR but never for bad one I have seen Xi visiting farmers rural areas etc but never Li|1 Raises hand hi I am self employed and Im freaking out|1 Thats really regional In New England they have been off the shelves for a stretch Im a nurse and we no longer have masks for workEdit I called my sister in Kansas and 95s are out of stock I asked her after I saw your post Good news tho there were 2 masks left and I told her to get them for herself and hubby They are both massively high risk and havent been taking this seriously The lights of finally come on|0 It is not a failure if it is intentional we have other words for that|1 Look up no true Scotsman fallacy|1 Excessive That really depends on your job and daily routine There is no proper way to quantify that I wash my hands whenever I get home and obviously after using the toilet or before preparing foodYou can also lower the amount of handwashing if you are just really careful with what you touch and only touch the things that are really absolutely necessaryHowever make sure to use lotion It is equally important to keep your skin intact Usage of gloves minimizes the chance that you touch your face as much as a face mask does I wear them since 2 weeks whenever I have to leave the house It works like magic in regards of not touching something that shouldnt be touched just because the feeling of something alien on top of your skinAlso dont forget to disinfect your keys and door handle You always touch them with unclean hands when coming home Hope that helps|1 It isnt really mystifying at all I was in Singapore in late February There is an actual containment and contact tracing initiative there People have their temperature taken as they move around during the day If you have a fever you are likely to know immediately I saw a man register a temperature when he was on his way in to a bank He was stopped his contact info taken and sent for immediate evaluation I had my temp taken entering restaurants shops malls hotels Everyone has their temp taken at work There is direction for the minutiae of life roll down the windows when you enter a taxi or ride share Mop your floors often Open your windows at home this in a country known for its love of air conditioning Wear a mask if you sniffle or cough for any reason Then there are customs like removing your shoes before entering any home Also because Singaporeans are accustomed to wearing masks when the palm oil billionaires over in Malaysia start up their slash and burn agricultural practices and Singapore is shrouded in drifting smoke people have and wear masks routinely They wont hesitate to put them on if they cannot maintain a safe distance indoors in a crowd|1 yeah would be great aside from the fact that you need to have the test to prove it otherwise you just get marked absent in my college and you risk failing|1 Honestly I thought the same things a few times but Im not really sure it couldve been covid Me and my husband both got really sick and couldnt shake it for weeks It was the sickest Ive been in my life And we both had flu shots I went to the dr and they just said it was a viral bug going around However my son didnt get sick I spoke with a friend and she had the same thing her and her husband were sick for weeks but not their son Her husband got tested for flu and it came back negative This was all around end of Janearly Feb|0 Quick translation Look this is the quarantine zone of dearest Turkish government Look I am showing it we are dying in here because of spectacular hygiene There are many people in here some of them waiting for hours some shouting some get stressed This is the quarantine zone of Turkish government where deemed worthy of glorious Turkish people Look here see this people These people are waiting in here for 24 hours and there is no medical intervention Did they clean the garbage You can shoot before they clean up Its all here everyone should see this Its the value that Turkish government offers for usHe is referring to evacuation planes which came from Wuhan with Turkish people in it and turned into a propoganda for government All of those evacuation planes quarantine stories of government This is it You should see it its for your information|1 Prepare for a canned email reading fear not we are taking all the necessary precautions with 0 actually information At least thats what I got back|0 most college seniors live in apartments near campus and not actually in dorms and wont really be going home but would now have a lot more extra time to party lol Source me a college senior|1 I caught the swine flu as well and it sucked but it was fine Obviously back then there was less of a powerful media social media presence so I think the fear and panic is much greater this time around which is a bummer|0 I think he was only ruled out because they couldnt get the results in time From that article Gobert was questionable to play some 30 minutes prior to tipoff Though he was in Oklahoma City at the teams hotel Gobert was not at the arena and wasnt there that morning either for the teams shootaround With official lineups due Gobert was ruled out about 15 minutes before tipoffI think if they got the results earlier and they were negative of course hed have played|0 Thats not a flaw The 60 non retirees are the primary blame for youth unemployment not letting the young ones take over the jobs|0 Yeah I just caught myself thinking that|1 I have a fellow Data Scientist Friend who is incredibly smart but their heart is deadset on going to Disneyworld during Spring break|1 What is it like reading everyones opinion here about China while being in China|1 And that is why it makes no sense to use those numbers to calculate a mortality rate it necessarily takes longer for people to recover than to die You need to wait for everyone to either recover or die to come up with an accurate mortality rate|0 Canada being on the list disappointed me|0 Thats the most logical thing to do in this scenario The government seems overlycomplacent to do anything constructive so its best to take matters into your own hands|1 Many of the afflicted demographic in Kr are in their 20s30 Also the tests were very preemptive because we had a good track of their clusterbasically the whole cult and whoever they came in contact with so lot of those cases were found early Just some variables that might affect the fatality rate|0 At the very least would it be easierfaster to prepare the OC43 vaccine in a pinch since its better known|1 Ridiculous On grounds of fire safety alone no school building has the capacity to absorb that many peopleTypical Multi Academy Trust acting a million percent more capable than they actually are|1 I do feel sorry for the people working those phones they must be getting an earful from a lot of pissed off people Have patience people We are all having to put up with inconveniences now|0 Yeah they are hiding the facts There may be more people infected than expectedChina Coronavirus Save your life with a maskhttpspraveenpuvacomchinacoronavirussaveyourlifebyusingafacemask|0 Is there any evidence 3 peroxide will work the type sold over the counter in many pharmacies I think most studies use full strength which would be too strong to use directly on skin I cant find any that say 3 peroxide kills viruses|1 Thank you |1 Well thats bad news for smokers who recover from this|0 Another antitrump comment They cant help themselves The information is out there go find it Do you have to be spoon fed|0 Its no surprise when we still got flights coming in daily from all the infected countries The government didnt even try to contain this|0 Why is everyone else saying that immunity will last only for 6 months like the coronavirus for the coldflu|1 Is there a list that I missed of the companies Wondering about Mediacom|0 She should be fired|0 Yes but we will soon see if the mortality rate is like a regular flu or if it is higher Just because it is highly contagious does not mean you will die if you catch it|0 Thank you And how some want to shoot the ones who have it Wow|1 I dont mean to overreact or assume but doesnt this render the headline grossly misleading|0 Noooooo Im halfway there I want to claim asylum Medical reasons|1 Thats ridiculous u might aswell buy some chickens|0 Its called your sternum aka breastbone Hope you feel better soon|1 but x model predicts that therell be 100k deathsModels which have been supported by various epidemiology experts and the confirmed properties of the virus so far vs a bunch of naysayers in reddit Not a hard decision to choose which one to follow right|1 and they modified their testing results to deflate the numbers They skew their infection rates just like they skew their GDP numbers The news coming out of CCP was everything is okay we have it handled keep traveling to China|1 Good let nature takes its course|1 Trump administration and CDC 36 cases in NYC Not great not terrible This is equivalent to 10 cases of the fluEveryone else But the test has only been given to 36 people The larger dosimeter is locked upTrump CDC Comrades everything is fine Do not panic but we will be cutting all phone lines and internet and stopping all transportationEveryone else But the coronavirus is already in 30 statesTrump CDC Youre delusional Take them away to the infirmary|0 201920 coronavirus outbreak in Mainland ChinaThe 201920 coronavirus outbreak was first manifested by a cluster of mysterious pneumonia in Wuhan the capital of Hubei Province in Mainland China A Wuhan hospital notified the local center for disease control and prevention CDC and health commissions on 27 December 2019 On 31 December Wuhan CDC admitted there was a cluster of unknown pneumonia regarding Huanan Seafood Market after unverified documents appeared on the Internet The potential disease outbreak soon drew nationwide attention including that of the National Health Commission NHC in Beijing who sent experts to Wuhan on the following day PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 This is fucking retarded A 100 yard trench in a cemetery is not a fucking mass grave Thats just enough space to normally bury a 100 coffins|0 dont attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidityx200Bthis leaked out of a lab because they have shit safety protocols and evading rules is a national pasttime they worked on something they shouldnt have because we do shit just to do shit as a species and it leaked out of the lab due to greed and stupiditygross fucking negligence at worst|0 I am furious The cdc doesnt make any money My local hospital system makes 7 billion a year My local hospital system pays many people many millions of dollars a year If the hospital systems and insurance companies want to make the money off of our medical care then they should be responsible to prepare for the risks Instead they continue to get paid and we have to shut down the whole fucking economy and go broke Because they dont want to pay to have extra hospital beds and equipment and personnel They want to profit as much as possibleMedicine should be non profit by law|1 Yup its the pneumococcal vaccination which protects you against pneumonia meningitis bacteremia and sepsis|1 Are you recycling your veggie scraps like bottom of lettuce and onions to regrow them You can put the bottoms in 3 inches of water in a dish and regrow your lettuce and onions This may help a little Same with celery and chives too|1 Great article So many people dont understand that sanitizing gel isnt necessary unless you dont have access to water and soap Washing your hands is so important even when there isnt an illness outbreak|1 Logic WHOAsk yourself What is the downside of wearing a mask|0 Judging by the age of the people doing the conference i wont be surprised if they havent|0 How dare you point out facts sDude Reddit is such garbage Its complete Chinese propaganda|0 You are welcome and nice to see you went back to the polite attitude I have mostly seen in Canadians I once drove from Glacier to Nova Scotia camping all the way Last year went to the Montreal Jazz Festival Used to live an hour from Vancouver and I seriously love Canada Great scenery lovely cities and mostly well educated folks I want to get back to Prince Edward Island and northern Nova Scotia this year|1 Fun fact at one point malaria was used as a syphilis treatment Malarial fevers are so high they kill syphilis bacteria|0 Aw sorry youre a wreck Lets be wrecks together|0 Apparently they wanted to see what mutations would have to happen for a bat SARS likevirus to jump to a human host Turns out adding that HIV segment was the mutation that needed to happen hahahahahaJust seems a bit coincidental that a SARS like virus with a furin cleavage site like that found on HIV like the SARS like virus from their paper linked here just happened to mutate from a bat SARSlike virus strain that was found almost a decade ago by the Wuhan lab from a cave in Yunnan Provance 8800km away in the same city as the same research lab that had been doing all this research for the last 1025 years despite the fact that out of the 500 bat SARSlike viruses surveyed by this lab absolutely NONE of them had a furin cleavage site mutationBut nah totally came from eating bats|1 Agree Im thinking it could be Better chance than some of the others Be CB prepared but stuff that can be used up if its not|1 Like surviving Hiroshima then going to NagasakihttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTsutomuYamaguchi|1 This is great news|1 Now says 2 confirmed in Newcastle and 2 suspected in Newport and 1 suspected else where|0 All you have to do if you are in a risk category if youre elderly or if you have chronic medical problems avoid crowds dont travel unnecessarily wash your hands all the time You all should be doing that Get your flu shots A couple things to challenge him on1 Why would washing ones own hands be advice for only those who are at risk and not everyone else Dr Fauci was recommending this for everyone both potential carriers and those at risk2 Getting flu shots doesnt give you any protection against COVID19 no one even said it would and especially not Dr FauciAlso OP when you send your email you need to CC the head of your department and dean of your school not the entire university but of the School of Arts and Sciences School of Engineering etc whatever it is|0 Im working at Whole Foods and Im terrified|0 httpsyoutubesJ1x8SlNxj0I watched the series its grim but yes they have thought about it |1 Linked to not securing your borders from infected people coming back from Iran and China|0 Honestly this post and this entire subreddit if Im honest takes the panic and raises it to 11 when it should be a steady 7 or 8We are most certainly not going to be the next Italy any time soon Canada is implementing processes nearly as stringent as Italy with just over 15 of the cases We test a lot its an option for almost any doctor that things there is cause for concern Hell in ER they test literally everyone as a matter of course Granted we havent reached the levels of testing like in South Korea but we also have 3 of their infection rate Right now were trying to get as many people as possible to stay home and its certainly having a huge effectPeople are freaked out to the point that downtown Toronto was practically deserted last Friday night and is doubly deserted now If this thing spikes in any significant way you can be damn sure that a lockdown is in the immediate future well before we get to the point that our hospitals are overloadedIf we go down in history it will be as the country that weather this storm quite well in comparison to most of the global community So calm down stay home practice good hygiene and social distancing if you do go out and things will be fine|1 Protect them How about putting them all on trial for negligent manslaughter|1 You act like nations such as China Iran and Italy are intentionally skewing numbers to make it appear worse than it actually is Why in the everlasting fuck would they want to do that Hey guys I think its been a while since we tanked our economy I think now is a good time And just in case ya didnt know its starting to pop off in Germany as well|1 So glad to hear that Alberta Health still has testing requirements citing travel to South Korea Iran china or Japan despite places like Germany noting a higher prevalence and growth ratefrankly the global growth has been enormous the travel limitation to access query for Coronavius19 needs to be abandoned|1 Look the Government of Canada has followed the advice and protocol of the World Health Organization on this which spent a fair bit of time on itPlease appreciate that Canada does not require Visas from a large swath of visitors from across the world They present a passport and answer a few questions Then they get in that is our law If we STOPPED air travel from a hot zone what would actually happen is that they would divert their travel route through another nonhot zone country lie about whether they had been there and avoid any possible quarantine health status inquiries and make it impossible to follow up and track them once in the countryIts not that they havent been considered its that they have been considered examined researched and were found to be ineffective They didnt slow anything down except medical aid in getting to the affected areas Travel bans from most hot zones make us feel better without actually doing anythingThat explains the difference between the US approach and the Canadian approach We followed WHOs recommendations Trump did notOne of our countries has the virus confirmed in the wild the other does not|1 Obviously personally catching Ebola would be pretty terrifying but this virus is terrifying because of how infectious it is At the end of this wayyyyyy more damage and deaths will be caused by COVID19|0 the virus does use ACE2 to get in your cellsI think that part is not crystal clear What is known is this the virus has a strong binding affinity to human ACE2If thats the only way for the virus to get in your cells smokers should be more susceptible to the virus as smoking is related to significnatly higher expression of ACE2 However thats not the case so far Smokers are prone to develop more serious symptoms once they caught the virus but they dont seem to have higher susceptibility On the contrary they seem to have lower susceptibility|0 I reckon that with the percentage of false negatives only were half tested lol Great job on the UK for being diligent but the tests depending on which one conducted are bunk|1 Cant get the coronavirus if youre dead|0 Haha The country is screwed|0 I work in a hospital am more concerned with what will happen when we run out of PPE Were not not going to help people but what are we going to use as gloves Saran Wrap What happens when Saran Wrap becomes the new impossibletofind toilet paper|0 The virus didnt need to be that much worse for this to go from scary but manageable to likely apocalypseI think were lucky we got a pandemic of a new flulike R0 of 2 CFR of 1 disease and not another measleslike R0 of 15 CFR of 3 disease or god forbid another smallpox R0 of 7 CFR of 30 or some unholy combination of all of the aboveEdit Measles is less deadly than I thought see below Point about infection potential still stands though it spreads like a demonpowered wildfire|1 Which is always circumvented by me and every member of my family getting in line before the store opens to buy one each then getting back in line after swapping clothesMeanwhile you create no incentive to fix the underlying problem a lack of supplySo you have the same problem as before a lack of supply and high costs from a black market with none of the benefits of people trying to buy and ship units from where its cheap such as a dusty shelf in a hardware store in a 40 person town in South Dakota to where prices are high like Italy where the problem exists right nowAnd just as bad you didnt get the commodity to those who needed it most just those who were first in line But if prices were high those who didnt really need one wouldnt bother and those who really did wouldnt be meet with sold out when its their turn Prices are the way these problems are fixed|0 They keep saying conspiracy this and that but the level of negligence and outright incompetence is making it seem almost obvious Like their little pandemic simulation happened like a few months before the first case|0 Yes if the pace of increase continued at the same rate the US would be fully infected maybe even before May 1 But my understanding is that no experts expect that to happen We dont know how far its going to get but personal and governmentenforced quarantines are eventually to going to reduce the spread of the virus This has happened in China and South Korea and maybe Iran though Ive been having difficulty learning what mitigation steps they are taking and commentators have suggested Iran may not be reporting all of its caseshard to know at this point The other force at work there is that most infected people will eventually recover so even if the entire population could theoretically become infected it wont all be at the same time The first will have recovered before the last are infected Hopefully it will not get anywhere close that point though|0 In Spain they have given a 20 raise to all supermarket workers They deserve a 2000 raise but this is still heartening God bless them all and anyone on the front lines whether it be healthcare worker or truck drivers worldwide|1 Oh thats serious|0 Would love to see this take off Am an IT admin in a manufacturing environment Im not sure how useful it might be for us unless I speak to a friend that works at a hospital|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Good point IF I go back and at least right now thats a big if I would have to do some kind of ninja flight path to get back My work would certainly be on the hook for that if they wanted me back|1 Yeah hence why Im not too worried about my job We operate on loans every year theyre investing a ton of money right now buying a shit ton of materials Its sad because I think theyre just trying to pretend everything is okay or something Were also one of the first industries people abandon during a recession even tons of businesses died out last one so Im 100 positive its not lastingIm taking off but told them ifwhen everyone gets sick Im more than willing to come in and do what I can by myself if applicable I mean its right up the street I could walk and Im going to be bored as fuck anyway We work outside so as long as I dont fuck around in the office itself and practice hygiene Im not exactly overly concerned I have PPE and such anyway just assume everything is infected unless you have personally cleaned it and store it in a sealed container Even then I was that shit just in case|0 Federal disaster relief funds supplies and personnel become available and the President can enact emergency rules|0 Maryland did as well yesterday|1 If any of them get quarantined in a foreign country it might become less thrilling very fast But if many universities are closed YOLO|1 Lifeguard here beaches in Florida are SLAMMED with people thousands upon thousands of people seniors within the crowds Is this being addressed at all or is tourism worth this|1 They closed the schools in Elk Grove California 16000 students but the parents were pissed off no babysitters or their kids couldnt play sports Thats right why because parents THINK younger people cant catch COVID19 which isnt true Younger people do get COVID 19 with mild symptoms in which they are usually not tested This is a mistake younger people like the flu spread it to the whole family anyone knows this that has kids COVID19 is the same way but very harmful to the older generation like their parents|0 Im 29 my immune system is fucked but Im a good ways from deaths door I very much dont want to die from viral pneumonia but worry that my immune system cant handle it considering how bad it did with a fucking cold recently|0 No The covid 19 skits could have been amazing|1 so that everyone gets itPeople wouldnt not get it if it didnt have the word fuck in itPeople get what stayhome means Im fact its already being used as a hashtag for exactly the purpose youre proposing|0 Stop sharing that video are you trying to promote it to get more views You have been accused of it in another thread|1 We wouldnt need this shit as bad as it will be if we didnt have the current administration|0 How Singapore did it is to mandate that all hospitals have enough masks for all health personnel for 1 year and then make them rotate the stock on a FIFO basis The masks have an expiry date of 5 yearsProblem solved without needing to spend too much extra taps forehead|1 The BBC has always been state propaganda|0 Even if this passes I cant live off 66 and Im more fortunate that many others|1 Ok fine Ill say it Its just a bad flu but only for the elderly and compromised people|0 how the tables have turned You cant make this shit up|0 Half of their economy runs on tourism No doubt|0 Well nobody can isolate like the Chinese|1 Thats because the state of emergency was about getting emergency funding and resources not about limiting any activities in LA|0 Nobody here has made a racist comment so Ill start things off|0 When countries come off lockdown spread will resume but the testing infrastructure will be so much more robust that it should be much easier to catch clusters before they spread out of control If you order anyone with cold symptoms to get a COVID test for the next six months that will keep things under control a massive undertaking though it might be|1 except his parents already had him as a child so they already survived|1 What is the original meaning|1 yeah Id always heard stuff lives seconds off body so even toilet seats okmaybe thats true something what even if true Im still not gonna touch toilet seat but THIS virus goes hours in air days on surfaces|1 Weve been out of school two days here Some people want them to just go ahead and close for awhile instead of WAITING for more people to get sick The responses This is the dumbest thing Ive ever heard youre stupid that makes no sense its just the flu this will be gone in a week what the hell is wrong with these people They have a mental disorder right|0 Is this a commercial comment by a corporate body Maybe But at this moment it helps people so fuck it This isnt the time to think so deep when its giving an option to some who need it the mostThis isnt the time to doubt|0 Interesting thanks Suprising thats still a thing and it is not in general at least a parallel publication also in English or the abstract in English so that one can at least find it|1 Ok Im sorry|1 What a shit article with barely any detailshttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusesituationreports20200316sitrep56covid19pdfsfvrsn9fda7db26Looks like the main contributors are Italy Spain France Germany Switzerland and Iran|0 Yeah Mr White Yeah Science|1 Literally said the same thing this morningPeople would go nuts on both sides of the political spectrum As much as I personally would enjoy to see him eat crow by getting seriously ill from something he said was no big deal I dont think we could handle the fallout|0 I would love to see them bring on a Democrat to work alongside Pence let Pelosi pick the person Then no matter what the outcome good or bad it would be a bipartisan effort and we wouldnt have to listen to the back and forth constantly Yeah Im sick of politics lol Frankly Ive said since way back in January you couldnt pay me to be in a leadership position through this it IS going to be a shit show no matter what they do thats the nature of a pandemic and I wouldnt want my name attached to being in charge|0 Opportunist question what would you buy a lot of right now to profit during the downturn|1 Mortality is either 27 or 196 depending on if you go by the total number of cases or those who have recovered respectively The former has gone up 05 and the latter down by 04 from memory So quite a shocking spike in reported cases but not the overall mortality rate|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thank YOU|1 Your critique on being fun at parties is totally irrelevant and bordering on inappropriate|1 Theyre trying to get you out for your own good there is a lot of in hospital transmission saying this as a hospital physician because there are so many asymptomatic carriers|1 So tomorrow night CNN and MSNBC will have leaked reports about how its Trumps fault|0 Not sure where I saw it but pretty sure it is a 2 test minimum before they claim a person is positive They test the same person later to see if it is going away|1 Want to feel really clean Use an electric trimmer to get rid of that ass hair I have known several men who do it on the regular|0 Yep all because he went to the spa and not Costco|1 What human rights a re you talking about You mean when you are known to have a fever during a very contagious outbreak where people are dying and you risk spreading it and decide to stay at home and not be truthful about your symptoms so you infect your family who infect their extended family and the virus spread never stopsThe reason they had to physically remove people from their homes to quarantine was because if they did not do that this situation would absolutely have no endWhere does one individuals human rights stop and anothers begin That is to say you decide to stay at home and selfisolate and now as your neighbor who passes your family members in the hallway or whatever the case may be you are risking my health because of your own fearsIt sucks to be sick and have to go to the quarantine wards but doing that is the only way they had a chance to contain it Human rights are not being violated when you refuse to cooperate for the greater good of your country|1 Nice|1 When the worst of this is over itll be time for the pitchforks and torches|0 What I hate is a for profit entity asking to be bailed out with my tax money|0 Heres what I think is up with the low death count Clerk These werent able to be tested before they died Supervisor Then they dont count towards the death toll Clerk Okay so should I enter them into a suspected death count Supervisor Too much work Wang Wrap it up and lets go to lunch Doubt its a uniquely Chinese problem|0 How do you not understand that this data is heavily skewed by countries that only test people who are already experiencing crippling symptoms and went to a hospital in the first place Yes that is why I used the word known And I wasnt giving their numbers directly Chinas actual inflated number was 20 while Italys is 50 It could be lower than 10 but there is no way it is on par with the flu And speaking of the flu not everyone who has the flu will be tested for it so those numbers will be inflated to an extent as wellThe death rate in Germany and South Korea is definitely encouraging but doesnt mean as much without the demographics of the infected and the hospitalization rate I also want to see how the twostrain hypothesis develops|0 It doesnt stop at 1000 bro Its obvious if things get worse youll get another 1000 And then another|0 Thats the real problem You may have seen the end of the convention culture as you know it because theres no reason right now outside of hopium and changeium to think that this is going to be gotten a handle on|0 Youd be surprised Most are run pretty thin|1 Can we all stop using random websites that do not reference articles Anyone can make these websites peer reviewed articles and government bodys offer the best information as theyre constantly scrutinized and allow for better testing to be completed Especially since the SARS outbreak there have been a lot done on these and theyre easy to find facemasks alone are pretty useless however combined with good hygiene and hand washing can be more affective than not wearing one httpswwwwhointpublicationsdetailadviceontheuseofmasksinthecommunityduringhomecareandinhealthcaresettingsinthecontextofthenovelcoronavirus2019ncovoutbreakHowever different masks offer different results a surgical mask is loose fitting and offers very little protection compared to a N95 respiratorhttpsblogscdcgovnioshscienceblog20091014n95|1 Well if we dont test we can still beat the virus|1 Lets predict the future shall we Breaking news A high number of Apple employees go on sick leave due to Corona Virus symptoms|0 I got hit by a drunk driver 3 years ago and got my head cut open The entire visit was going to be 50k if it wasnt for the fact that I got a lawyer to reduce it and also get the persons insurance to pay out the ass|0 Im worried about going to the grocery store and I live in the US Glad InstaCart delivers|1 Below 50 indicates the person had a preexisting health issue heavy and constant exposure to the virus or a seriously stressed immune system What concerns me is getting Covid19 and the flu at the same timeNow is the time to get more sleep eat healthily and exercise That should be enough for 99 of the under 50 crowd|0 Yikes Praying for you buddy|1 And that is why it is a horrible idea to let patients choose if to get tested or no expecially based on am I insured with this or that provider For the love of god just do like any other place on earth and let doctor decide when things are necessary Is it perfect No Is it a billion time better than the alternatives Yes|1 The difference is that we accepted that this was a serious issue to plan for and made the decision to add supplies when it was easy The people scrambling now are the one who brushed this off as nothing to worry about|1 Pull your head out of the dirt BUDthis is going to change the whole economic map You must not be paying attention|0 At the end of the day China will take over the world If you refuse to bow down you dont get supplies|0 Its another layer of protection Nothing works 100 That said masks are probably not the most important thing to do in areas without widespread community transmission though since odds of encountering an infected person is low Washingcleaning hands will be more important as the virus can stay on surfaces for hours or even days after an infected person sneezed or coughed|0 HKFP enough said they do not write unbiased news only articles with clear agendas And it doesnt even take a genius to figure out how bias they are just scroll through their front page 910 articles are just opinion pieces criticizing China and nothing about anything else news on Iran Korea Italy the US the UK nope just China every damn article|0 AMEN OP Thank you all|1 Wow Source|1 Yes thank you I was speaking of his dumb ass hannity interview|0 Hope they stay well Were all in this together|1 I have ocd as well as this has been really hard on me We can get through this tho I feel you and I wish I had some good advice|1 There is only one hospital in the neighboring 3 counties where you can have a baby You highly over estimate their capacity Also rural people shop at like 2 stores so they all congregate regularly in limited spaces|1 Damn Norway you killing it|0 Honestly I dont know much about the Chinese culture and CCP but from an outsiders POV Im french it looks like a government running a country like a Personality Disordered person afflicted with Narcissism runs their close family unit all facade and shiny appearances but inner hell and forbiddance to tell the truth about the disordered leader This is nightmarescary shit to imagine it could exist on the scale of a country as big as China isMy heart goes out to all the chinese people|0 I thought the idea was to have compromised people stay home while everyone else got sick or something and they had to time the order so they didnt quarantine people too soon or something|0 My SlavicBalkan radar is pinging hard|0 I actually agree with you But its hard to talk about that fact on this subreddit it seems Covid19 appears to be a purely Asian related virus that does not pose serious health dangers to nonAsians I mean I just find it fascinating that not a single nonAsian has had severe symptoms yet Not a single one required ventilators or anything Not even the thousands that were evacuated from WuhanFor nonAsians the common flu viruses may well be worse than covid19 its actually shocking|0 Youll need a salt mine commies are lying outta their assholes|0 Heres hoping they dont have to reopen them next Fall|1 This blows my mind lol Pandemic definitionWHO we dont like to use that word Explains the situation with the definition of pandemic What is happening|1 Ive felt exactly the same Tightness in my chest for days hasnt gone awayits been about 2 weeks now I thought it was anxiety but not sure I dont have dry cough but congestion in my chest and occasionally a stuffy nose No fever Not sure if it could be covid19 or something else I live in Texas 30f I know I wouldnt get tested even if I tried|0 Are we still going to get yelled at for fear mongering when we said the CCP numbers were probably not accurate and that its going to go globalIts common sense not fear mongering Coronavirus has been floating around Wuhan since December CNY just exacerbated the problem due to high levels of direct and indirect contact with large groups Its contagious throughout its incredibly long incubation time Look at how impactful the flu is and we have vaccines for it medication to reduce time sickBut hey if people want to stick their head in the sand and go la la la cant hear you I guess thats fine tooIts going to go global but hopefully most people will be fine|0 Screw that Im voting for Linus|0 It doesnt really seem like our media is being transparent about it given how little concern Ive seen people have in NYC|0 Thats if you believe the party line Consider the spread in Italy Iran or the US|1 So very sad and tragic May both doctors rest in peaceparadise |0 Same out here in Frederick MD People are all giving excuses of one last hurrah have to support business so those people can keep their doors open its no big deal because they are young Its sickening|1 Age is a more important factor than genetics in this case If youre 65 you have a high chance of dying Furthermore if you have secondary conditions that will exacerbate the disease as well|1 Thats relatively concerning considering they deem a pandemic when every individual on the planet is likely to be infected their new terminology definition isnt something we WANT to be in|0 Many other countries manage to run businesses just fine with much more generous sick leave and vacation day policies than the average US job so I dont know what to tell you|1 Of course man we should prepare for the worse and hope for the best at all times But I am confident that this is gonn be a insignificant outbreak compared to what we may see in the rest of 21st centuryYeah this is bad but imagine if Ebola was airborne now that would be a doomsday scenario with a death rate higher than 50 in countries with good medical care and 90in underdeveloped countries|0 This guy needs to be a world leader hes the only one I see caring hes doing more for countries than their own governments I fucking love this guy|1 Its so weird bc my parents were talking about it last night and I was mentioning I dont remember anything about it But they follow the news pretty religiously live in America now and I was working a lot during that time But I know they were pretty worried about our extended family|1 I agree with everything youre saying and Im curious if you mean that you literally have not left your apartment or just that you havent gone out for anything other than the essentials|1 This is because most countries understand high school math They see where the virus is spreading exponentially and test people from those places China gave us 2 months of warning and testing capacity in every country with a halfway functional government outstrips the US by massive margins Im convinced that if the US doesnt drastically change its response to this crisis this weekend it will go down in history as the American virus or the Trump virus for most of the world|0 I havent either Im from Sweden and its just something we dont do Its recommended for people in risk groups and thats itHowever our work and educational culture also encourages people to just stay home if they feel sick so there usually are no big issues with the flu spreading a lot|0 He has looked sort of stoned ever since he got back from Christmas holiday|1 I hope people understand this is what happens when epublicans want when they privatize every aspect of government services You cant expect private firms to act for social good Theyll have to look at it from the profit perspective Im not blaming them but the system makes it so its this wayIf the government was run correctly there would be national security commissions and subsidies pegged to avg consumption and grants in epidemicpandemic conditions for temporary increases of certain strategic industries|1 Will do Ill reply to this by tomorrow night we should know by then|0 Trump cut funding Says a lot|0 President Cheeto is just still figuring out a way to make some money off it via corruption give him time its an unusual opportunity|1 Apart from there being 0 evidence that when you have had it youre immune and alongside that we dont know the long term damage or effects it can have on people that have recovered People with SARS that recovered are demonstrating breathing difficulties 10 years after contracting it Studies have shown that it latches to receptors in male reproductive organs Allowing people to become infected is at best ridiculously irresponsible and at worst criminally negligent|0 Everyone who desperately needs a test should just say they shook hands and shared a pop with Rudy Gobert a few days ago Or hop on a cruise ship Dont do this Or tell them they just flew back from Lombardy a week ago These people dont have the time or resources to pull passports and travel history But honestly Its fuckin outrageous that we would need to resort to lying just to get tested|0 My friend from Wuhan said the second portion was local dialect He said the doctor seems to be on the phone to the chief doctor of the hospital and the chief expressed that he is too tired and careless to deal with the amount of patients overwhelming the hospital so they are left lying in the hallways and that there is nothing he can do and that essentially he may be of better use elsewhere He said the staff are too afraid to move the people lying on the floor in case they become infected It seems others covered the rest well as if hes talking to an administrator or principal who wants to take a holiday|0 I have heard a lot of stories about the arrogance of medical workers|0 COPD is as bad or worse than cancer|0 Ive got some experience dealing with the elderlya good portion of them dont give a shit about anything|1 Be careful not to cough on Grandma|1 This is called predictive programming Your movies and shows have more truth in them than the mainstream media Awaken O Sleepers|1 Seems like keeping kids home would come before stocking up Strange|1 85 of those highdependency beds are already full Ill try to dig out a sourceEDIT Sorry nope Critical care beds run at between 70 and 80 capacity most months according to data from NHS DigitalIts not spare capacity COVID19 is happening on top of the current crisis in the NHS not instead of itSee below figure of 1000 available beds is correct but beds do tend to run at 7080 capacity|0 If they dont have a test then thats exactly what you should do Stay home if you can and stay away from others and come in to stay in the hospital and get treated Just the act of going to the hospital could spread itIf they dont have a test then dont get out unless its an emergency|0 That 1 guy He tested negative and then nothing since|0 This is not NYs fault this is the fault of the Federal government requiring the CDC not to allow testing and its interference with the use of a very expensive test yeah the one that is an abject failure but they still are pushing rather than the less 150 dollar test that actually works Our government is seemingly not concerned with the lives and welfare of its people and is more concerned about profits and money see stock exchangeIts the Feds boys its the Feds as run by the pustule of the WH|1 Wait Why isnt Japan testing suspected cases|1 So what policy do you recommend when there are many times the number of patients than you can possibly handle|1 This is really bad news especially considering all the people that escaped the North to the South yesterdayThis could happen in the whole country in a couple of weeks|0 STOCK UP ON YOUR MEDS Ask your doctor for prescriptions you may have to pay out of pocket because youre getting extra but STOCK UP|0 Stay the hell home It takes up to 2 weeks for symptoms to appear but the infected are contagious nevertheless This means you dont know whos propagating the virus they dont know themselves and you could do it too unknowingly|0 Yes very worrisome|0 I mean honestly what is going to be drastically different in a year|1 Youre welcome It helps when people ask as its a check that we understand it ourselves |1 There was a time I would have laughed if I had read that title on a tabloid at the supermarket checkout|1 After CNY I suppose there would be another rise in numbers of infectedbut now theyre discussing the possibility of extending the spring festival holidays to let the virus natually fade before the largest human migration resumes|1 Sure but is this particular case a result of negligence or mishandling or just that Coronavirus is a tricky disease that is good at outsmarting us while it gets established in a host|1 Too much work its just the flu anyway snot my actual opinion|0 Realistically speaking no matter what we do now were going to end up with a situation where people are out of work for extended periods of time What needs to happen is that we need paid sick leave that explicitly addresses quarantines and public health related work stoppages|0 lame|0 its weird here in my state there was new gun laws like 3 months ago cant buy ammo or handguns or anything anymore|0 I think they were just worried about panic setting in by going to full lockdown too quick even though they should have Too many idiots out there would have overreacted by their rights being violated|0 Keep America Great 2020|1 Thank you for what you do|1 You seem to be the only one in hysteria and panic|0 Considering no ones getting tested how are they going to verify that people actually have Coronavirus I mean this just looks like a hollow publicity stunt|1 Great Post|1 No thats the way forward Thank you for showing us how its done|1 Probably until people dont pay their bills again it isnt free duh|0 NJ We keep jumping day by day very quickly and thats only testing half of the state Tourists from PA are FLOODING the southern half to visit the shore If cases are jumping every day in North Jersey where theyre already on lockdown Im absolutely terrified what South Jerseys numbers will look like at the end of this because nobody is stopping these absolute tools from flocking down here like its a vacation|0 Wow a woman wanting a divorce This is a new|1 The majority of Americans live in urban areas have no idea how to create their own food and will literally starve to death without rural populationsWhich is exactly why communist countries regularly starve vast swathes of their populations after they kill off the fascist farmersDo you realize how selfish it is to say that rural Americans do not deserve to even have a say in how their country is run|0 Hooooly shit that was close for me then I entered yesterday I am a foreign national that was just in China Just for your information I put myself in a self quarantine already and Im thoroughly using so much alcohol to kill any possibility and using food delivery for groceries Im 999 Im not infected by the virus but I dont want to risk that 01 and make the news as a major ass|0 I work in beer distribution uncertain if this shit is going to hurt or help sales I feel like people probably drink a lot while under quarantine|0 This is truly the worst time line I find comfort that others are worried and care since no one in real life that I know gives a shit|0 Isnt testing for the virus like 1000|1 Or maybe they are still in their pocket but this thing is too big for them to suppress anymore and they cant risk losing more credibility else they will start losing funding from other countries like US who already proposed a cut|1 Youre the only one in the conversationDo you believe Italy Spain and other countries are handling the outbreak wellEven US cities took their time to restrict movement most seem to have done little until a few days ago|0 This sub was created to spread this sort of information freely i think a mod has some explaining to do|1 It is going to be mild for the vast majority of people but honestly I think we will all know someone who has a family member that will die of this or at least spend days in the miserable cluster fuck that our healthcare system will become and thats bad|0 If you arent rich you better be useful|0 I dont believe you for many reasons to include your novel account Here was my reply with supported criticisms Good luck excusing these Here we goIf China did intentionally withhold information that would not only be bad for public health but also illegal under international law It would be a violation of the International Health Regulations a legally binding treaty that covers how 195 countries respond to outbreaks like this onePast behavior is a good predictor of future behaviorHere we have the same website detailing criticism of China in regards to the SARS outbreak looks like they didnt learn anything httpswwwscmpcomnewschinaarticle1155641transparencykeylessonlearnedsarsoutbreakmainlandchinaReports from Chinese health authorities and the WHO state that the first patient had symptoms December 8 2019 No update was provided between January 11 and January 18 2020 as the confirmed case count remained the same very critical period of time They continuously stated that there was no evidence of humantohuman transmission These cases were reported to have been confirmed on January 10 2020 meaning they would have to have known their case History and that many of the 41 cases at the time had not been at the market Human transmission wasnt confirmed until LATE JANUARY because of thishttpswwwsciencemagorgnews202001wuhanseafoodmarketmaynotbesourcenovelvirusspreadinggloballyThe first person we know of passing from the virus January 9th passed it along to his wife even though he didnt have any exposure to the marketJanuary 10 2020 A FAMILY of 6 patients who traveled to Wuhan between December 29 2019 and January 4 2020 is enrolled into the hospital and confirmed to have novel coronavirus One member who didnt travel to Wuhan had become infected days after contact with four of the family members None had contact with Wuhan or animals and two had visited the hospital there 0httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620301549fulltextTreatment of whistleblowerOn January 10 2020 Li began to get symptoms of the virus after unwittingly treating a patient that had been infected He was hospitalized on January 11 2020 to the ICU needing Oxygen supporthttpsnypostcom20200204chinesedoctorwhotriedtoblowthewhistleoncheoronaviruscatchesdiseaseThe Chinese Supreme Peoples Court lashes out at police who punished Dr Li for spreading rumors about the illness As reported in the South China Morning Post httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3048042chinastopcourthitsoutwuhanpoliceovercoronavirusrumour|0 Thats friggin a lotI fear death number will be high too|0 Median not average incubation is 3 days it can be as long as 24 days plus then you need to factor in time to test and they are only testing after people identify with symptomsThe lower number of new cases today compared to the last two days is consistent with the distribution curve It would be good news if the new detected cases trend towards 0 over the next 10 daysIf not then its likely it is somehow spreading on the ship|1 No Amount Of Evidence Will Ever Persuade An Idiot|0 It really shouldnt be a worry if it comes to your country Most countries are handling it just fine The only worry is how China can handle it Can they build hospitals fast enough to treat everyone Or if that fails can they keep it contained in the quarantined areas|1 All the nepotism and cronyism in the ruling class has reached an inevitable conclusion The people in charge are incapable of listening to scientists because they hate science like it fucked their mom without letting them have sloppy seconds Mike Pence is nominally in charge of the response to a public health crisis and all hes doing is trying to stem the flow of any information In addition the president is telling his supporters its all a hoax and that will make them unwilling to listen to public health officials telling them this is seriousFrankly I think our country would be better off without those people and no great loss but viruses dont care about political affiliation Trump is endangering public health because hes a greedy stupid fool and all we can do is watch|0 I mistakenly opened up a political conversation with my business guide who was quite intelligent and based on HongkongThats because you talked to someone from Hong Kong Hong Kong people are brainwashed from birth to look up to the West and look down on the MainlandThe culture on the Mainland is different There is a lot more confidence in the future of the country and the direction it is taking HK and Taiwan are stagnant societies so everything is always dark when you talk to people there|1 Check the stats on bomb attacks|0 puts a gun on the tableJust gonna leave this here|0 This is as if we never saw all these videos of people lying in the street of wuhan httpsiimgurcomONEIHjHjpgThey were young and now theyre probably dead youre not staying on the ground face against the pavement unless you have something that progress very fast|0 Is it possible to have the number of cured along side the total infections|1 You are bonkers if you think the Guardian are trustworthy They are one of the very few press outlets not regulated by IPSO Their bias is absolutely staggering too No MSM can be trusted anymore if they ever could|1 I agree I took the latest WHO report and applied those numbers to my own State of Utah If this is as bad as the FLU season was last year and 20 of the population gets sick with COVID19 then Utah will have 5000 deaths and will need 45000 ICU beds Utah only has 5000 hospital bed in total If only 2 of the Utah population gets infected that would use every bed in every hospital in the state|0 Fair point I guess you edited your post but there just seemed to be a lot of generalizations in your outlook which isnt as big picture as Id personally expect But everyone is focusing on different aspects as its an incredibly dynamic situation|1 I AM NOT A DOCTOR but it sounds like a chest cold from the symptoms Took me a month to get over mine Controlling the runny nose is key to stopping it along with plenty of rest and fluidsIf you wheeze when you breathe you can go back and ask them to run a virus test on you It can show if fluCorona If not then its a bacterial infection which can be treated|1 Wait for them to arrive okay When might that happen They are already gone and needed elsewhere You and I are two different types I wish you a fortunate journey|1 Its one of the best Believe me Its great|1 Funny thing They can send 10 million kits We dont have the capacity to process the kits thats the problemYay smaller government Thanks Republicant party|1 This is getting close to criminal levels|0 The hypothesis is that young children are exposed to many Corona viruses colds and flus in their daycare and school communities This constant exposure has amped their immune system and as such is better at defending against this new Coronavirus As adults these defenses have waned Source NYT Health reporter|1 imagine being stupid enough to believe thisfucking imbecile|0 I feel for you I suspect this is just the beginning|0 So sorry to hear it Hope you all stay healthy safe that financial relief reaches you soon Be well neighbor|1 Gluten intolerance would be a bitch rn|0 More so that theres been mostly no deaths at this healthy age theres plenty of infections|1 I think the key is to look at the whole picture You can exclude influenza with cheaper lab testshttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920300864fulltext rapid evolution from focal unilateral to diffuse bilateral groundglass opacities that progressed to or coexisted with consolidations within 13 weeks very fast movement to lower lobes not upper dry not productive cough the time between onset of symptoms and the development of acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDS was as short as 9 days among the initial patients with COVID19 pneumoniaEtcIn the absence of lab tests Chinese doctors facing this en masse have been using the CT scans They also have a good sense of the overall clinical picture of course having seen so many cases unfortunatelyYou know it might also be that you were right and that radiologist was wrong|0 CNBC getting it done The reporter has a background in this field Kernen was published when he went to MIT He could have been a great scientist|1 I also dismissed it as just a flu but then I saw China quarantine milions and milions of peopleyou do not quarantine entire cities that have more population then my small coutnry for the common flu|0 WW2 actually lifted us out of the great depression at least in part|1 The minute they put the kabosh on people letting out information and put Pence in charge I knew exactly where this was going Its fucking heartbreaking to watch|0 Well I mean when SARS was happening we didnt really know it was SARS yet so we were treating cases like a cold or flu no containment measures were initially taken whatsoever|0 Forced how exactly|0 Fuck|0 The world knew about COVID19 since early Jan but dragged their feet at doing anything proactive until it hit their borders Everyone is behaving like the local pandemics are unexpected when they should have been prepared for ages ago|1 Yeah I cant understand the strategy behind trying to undersell the dangers of a contagious virus what outcome are they hoping will happen|0 I live up North so far zero case I went out earlier to do my groceries fuck the supermarket inside one of the biggest malls here ran out of hand sanitizers Which is good They are finally realizing the magic of washingsanitizing their hands that doesnt happen often Been here for two years and Im still not used to seeing the lack of basic hygiene practices|1 Interestingly their stock isnt actually rising much lately Wonder why|1 Massive funeral gathering tomorrow for a local firefighterwhich generally Id be all for but nowEveryone just press F at home|0 Below 1 mortality rate manly came from places with funcioning health care system eg Signapore or Chinese cities outside of Hubei For Wuhan there could indeed be recovered patients that Didnt get a test at all but there were also some unlucky ones who died even before getting medical care So the actual mortality rate for Wuhan wont fluctuate much from the number we got|1 You have no idea about their mortality rate The figure are invented by a dictatorial regime The fact you dont question that shows you arent the brightest China may actually fair better than many countries anyway They have the ability to mobilise very quickly build things fast They have a lot of equipment to deal with pneumonia because its a common issue there Most countries do not have their recourses China produces a lot of drugs so they will have a lot of supply All of this yet they still shut down their country to combat this virus That shows an intelligent person how serious this is|1 You make millions of tests like China does Western countries are constantly complaining everything is impossible to do while China just does them|1 I agree its good that they have a plan The plan is kinda interesting though lol Just letting it run its course and eventually developing herd immunity In order for herd immunity to work AT LEAST 70 of the population has to get infected likely more|1 Yup 4 week here one row of cold flu and now round 2 of the winter vomiting bug If this has helped with the coronavirus that would be great because Im fucking exhausted|0 No theyre not Theyre way more efficient than CPUs for this task I have an old desktop with a Phenom 2 X6 1045T and an nVidia 1050 The Phenom CPU can consume up to 95 Watts and only gets about 2000025000 PPD on FH while the 1050 GPU consumes about 70 Watts and gets about 180000 PPD I keep this machine in my living room running only on the GPU it is basically silent Newer CPUs are better but still nowhere near as efficient as GPUs for heavily threaded physics simulations my main desktop which I dont usually use for folding as my bedroom would get too hot and loud gets about 125000 PPD on the CPU while consuming 150160 Watts Ryzen 2700x and my GPU gets 400000450000 PPD while consuming 130 Watts Radeon RX580This may be why the SARSCoV2 simulations on FH are only available on GPU workloads CPUs arent very useful if youre doing physics simulations and need any reasonable level of performance|1 Yes|1 OK I love people being paranoid about USA incompetence but I have to say that flu data for the USA was quite normal and that there doesnt seem to be any kind of coverup If the data supported you then OK but it doesnt|1 Especially another thought follows1 statistically speaking 25 of people travelling by plane gets ill Wearing a mask makes my next days more pleasant and increases my chancs of not getting ill coronavirus or not even if i am judged by otbers2 i get ill with coronavirus flu cold or because of antivaxxer on the plane and dont get judged by others3 i dont get ill but i wanted to wear a mask and i didnr for a fear of being judged so i feel worse about myself|0 It will be interesting to see if they cancel the rodeo and livestock show in Houston|1 The new cases are rising in Hubei and Wuhan In the rest of China the number of new cases has decreased for the last 4 days straight I hope that means other outbreaks were caught fast enough|1 Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but lets say things get out of hand and Im stuck in my apartment complex for 2 weeks But lets say my neighbor above me has the virus Whats the likely hood It can transfer to me from them coughing and sneezing etc everywhere up stairs Asking strictly for this situation|1 Ah that explains why my insurance company makes me get prior authorization for any imaging other than Xrays and then tries to drag the doctor through endless hoops until they give up and leave me hanging|0 Trump knows that if the economy tanks theres no way hes getting reelected Thats why hes trying to make it out like no big deal Might come back to bite him in the ass though|0 I am interested what do you think of thishttpsjameslyonsweilercom20200130ontheoriginsofthe2019ncovviruswuhanchina|1 Its horrifying and my heart physically aches for the people in that situation I cant even imagine the level of helplessness they must feel Dealing out some street justice like the old days comes to mind|0 Definitely will watch this movie for curing boredom later|1 Costco my man Paid 20 for a couple dozen rolls that are great|1 JC I hope this isnt their norm|1 PoPuLaTiOn CoNtRoL is good for the environment and economyLook up Extinction Rebellion its a UK environmentalist activist group that thinks exactly like thisHow do you go from hey lets do what we can do reduce our impact on the environment to slow down or reverse climate change to HUMANS R BAD LETS JUST ALL DIE AND RETURN THE EARTH TO WHAT IT WASWhere do people get this fucking mentality|0 Extracted numbers from a preprint that analyzes data from Wuhan 10 2039 severe 15 critical httpsoldredditcomrCOVID19commentsff18cmevolvingepidemiologyandimpactoffjx69lr|0 Im glad you found it helpful Ive been debating over sharing for days I really wanted to warn people and let our family friends know what was going on but terrified of online backlash At this point though I figured if our story could help others from getting sick or help them through dealing with the illness it was worth it to lose some online anonymity|0 Im pear shaped and I also dont like this at all|0 I design class ii and iii implantable medical devices for a living Spine implants Projects take 1836 months to design prototype test test test test fix what breaks during the test retest perform the necessary quality and regulatory documentation proving that the device is safe ramp up to production inspect validate that production parts are fully functional and safe and then launch And at each stage you need to have an ingrained knowledge of science and engineering and quality regulations and about a dozen other niche skills that the average citizen doesnt have any idea aboutI appreciate your desire to want to help and contribute to being a part of a solution But please believe me when I say that this idea will not work|1 If things take longer than that Whatever serious crisis you need gear to be able to survive outside Its like your duty as a man to your familyIn a case like this virus hitting the fan two weeks isolated at home will be the best option Agreed|1 Hero of the people Victim of the state|1 Most of them dont and many are no longer including asymptomatic cases similar to China The number if confirmed cases is not representative of the actual number of cases|0 A ray of light amidst the darkness|0 Welcome to America land of the oligarchs|1 They dont like him either|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCanadaCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 My wife kids and I are in a Delema We are supposed to leave tomorrow for a European vacation mostly Germany but also Austria France England Italy and Budapest It was supposed to be for 3 weeks and now we are debating canceling the whole thing or just doing a week in Germany and Budapest If we cancel the whole thing we are out about 6000 and wont have the opportunity again If we cut the trip short we are still out a bunch of money from prebooked flights and hotels We have been stressing all week and decide tonight|0 Loweffort posts are not allowed in rChinaFluA loweffortpost is a question post or discussion that propositions without citation or context and solicits speculation This may include solicitation of prep reposted frequently or travel advice not permitted or medical advice not permitted This also includes posts soliciting statistical data or local reports that are readily searchablePlease consider using the daily discussion thread on the front pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlu If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Yes it is possible for universities to do this Actually this would be relatively trivial for a well equipped molecular biology labhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovlabrtpcrdetectioninstructionshtmlhttpswwwbroadinstituteorgfilespublicationsspecialCOVID1920detection20updatedpdfHOWEVER quality control is not trivial A lab has to use an agreed upon method and demonstrate a level of low false positivenegative results to be certified This is quite laborious and requires a fair bit of skillAt present testing should be sent to the CDC as OC poster mentioned|1 Panic was not inevitable a month or two ago After nonstop stream of mainstream media and officials lying through their teeth about it yeah a sudden change of attitude and sudden change of FACTS will cause panic Because apparently were ruled by idiots|0 Your post hasnt aged well Trump is announcing mass testing for any US citizen that needs it Hes doing this right now|0 As someone who normally eats fresh food my freezer compartment is absolutely tiny tbh 3 loaves of bread have now taken up 1 out of three of the drawers|1 I have paid sick time here in US but I have to accrue them 8 hours a month and you get penalized for using them 1 occurrence for 1 occasion of sick time You can use 2 days or more though with only 1 occurrence 5 occurrences in a year gets you a write up 8 gets you fired And they drop off a year after you use it For instance if I call off sick in may that occurrence doesnt drop off until next may But if you have a recurring illness you can get Intermittent FMLA so you cant get fired for calling off for illness all the time but you need proof from a dr|0 You may have a good point there Pure pandemonium|1 And next year some of those insurers will raise rates or exit that market Nothing is free|0 I came here right before people were being welded in to their homes near end of decemberjan Then started slowly collecting supplies in janfeb All stocked up and even got wipes and sanitizer before it was cool Just wanted to thank this subreddit|1 Sw what happens when you cant play nice They take the toy away from you|0 Enjoy your downvote commie|1 cuomo just said CDC isnt allowing the state to do automated testing which would result in thousands being tested every day instead of what theyve done so far hundredsits a coverup to protect the stock market|1 WHO also pushed the line that masks dont work frightening people into thinking correctly that elites were trying to trick them into not buying PPE that could help keep them and their families safe So they went out and bought up every mask anyway|1 End of life and end of life as we know it are 2 coompletely different things not knowing things or able to control them is scary there is no need to be ashamed of this|0 I dont think its even possible to properly quarantine infected passengers away from others on cruise ships Especially if this virus can indeed be result carried through shared plumbingventilation systems|0 Nah because look at how the 23rds managed to become so much worse He should have clicked like 910ths|0 Thats what were doing So far Ive purchased 2x ingredients for several of our favorite camping dishes we car camp in a tent and hate buying ice every day so we stick to dinners that are easy to make out of canned ingredients This includes white chili tuna helper beans and vienna sausages and fried spam usually with potatoes which we nearly always have on hand Well rotate out the ingredients next time we camp|1 Fuck you USA|0 Its the WHO guidilines that are fucked up You have to have symtomps and come from China and now also italy and korea and iran to be tested Of course they are finding mostly Italians Iranans etc They are the only ones systematically tested Once Germany declares one of its regions a red area well see Germans pop out everywhere|0 Govt message was pretty clear but mangled deliberately by the hostile media and carelessly by incompetent media in reporting all the misinformation about govt strategy Ive seen is a result of people getting their views from sensationalist irresponsible journalists|0 Fucking ridiculous I cant imagine a worse person to lead us right now Even when his own family have it the fucking moron still wont take it seriously Anyone else notice once Trudeau locked himself in his room things finally started to get done|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Kind of goes to explain how the rich dont give a damn about the notsorich eh|1 youve essentially described why eating a healthy diet is good for your health|1 please make sure you treat the people getting tested as though they have it Dont let them mingle with no masks until the results come back like what happened in WA the other day Guy tested positive after walking around for hours without a mask|1 For the record I havent seen a single city worker cleaning anything I gave the City the benefit of the doubt when I read the news story about the citys efforts earlier this week The nerve of that douchebag I replied to pointing the finger at the Fed|0 Its very hard to think about the statistics about this virus as actual people when weve been seeing such unbelievable numbers for so long It feels like its just not real like the numbers arent real and I think it will keep feeling like it until we get some statistics like these in America|1 The initial response of our government was quick Switzerland banned public meetings with more than 1000 people while many other European countries were still not doing anything Germany held ther carnival that week The problem is there are lots of people from northern Italy working in Switzerland and so just like in Italy the whole situation got out of control Last week would have been the moment for a countrywide shutdown Instead the federal council decided to only implement some halfhearted measurements closing schools restaurants arent allowed to have more than 50 guests Unfortunately it seems people here dont really care about these restrictions and since today was a nice and warm sunny day everyone was outside The federal council held a crisis meeting this evening and theyll probably hold a press conference monday morning|0 The daytime ambient temperature in Cambodia is very close to average human body temperature If they used those crappy thermometer guns theyre in for a rude surprise|0 Lol what really is going on here|1 not necessarily all attempts to create a vaccine for SARSCoV1 for the past 16 years just made the virus more deadly for the animal test subjects exposed postvaccination remember this is SARSCoV2 It might not be possible to make a vaccine for this|1 Im not following US politics as I am Australian but Ill take your word for it Im not sure of his policies but I really dont think opening the gates to the whole world is the answer for reference and I say that after living in France which is practically destroyed now Its time to look after our own I used to support Trump but more and more Im growing to feel that hes just another establishmentpuppet and not the guy|0 It depends The price has to be considered reasonably Like the price of masks is 1 raised to 2 is considered fair Price gauging is when you raise 1 to 50 Thats not within the reasonable price of a mask It is very difficult to control and its why its always a problem in these types of situations|0 Very disappointing how our leaders are being so soft on reacting to this They are not being proactive in the fight at all They are doing just a few wimpy measures to allow the number of cases to continue to rise|0 As anyone got both Covid and the flu together |0 Nebraska Everyone started taking it more serious today The state universities announced canceling classes and moving to online in 2 weeks Health centers were reportedly full of people deciding they should get tested You get people are being a little more reasonable than the older crowd Some people are acting like its the apocalypse and are preparing in silly ways Its gonna be a long ride and many people assume it will be a few weeks then back to normal Went to the liquor store and heard talk that they might not be getting shipments Idk if thats due to prioritizing food or whatEssentials are picked over everywhere Basic medications running low at some stores pastaricefrozen food nearly sold out as well|1 Confidence in USG should have been literally 0 in like 2006|1 That is not necessarily true I am a medical professional that wears gloves for a large portion the day and I instinctively never touch my face while i have gloves on Masks on the other hand are hard not to touch because they are uncomfortable and always need adjusting|0 Yeah I dunno Ive heard this theory before but people dealing with an unknown virus that is currently killing people will change there mind pretty quickSure they avoid hospitals for flu etc but thats because they are able to recognize what they have and weigh out the options Is it really worth X to treat Y when I know Ill be better in a weekDealing with the unknown variable of Y and not knowing what it is whats going to happen what they need to do etc That will drive people to hospitals dont worryPeople cherish there lives over money I guarantee you that|0 One of the most remarkable men to ever live What an inspiration|1 Well maybe the US found out but wont tell us that the WHO test kits contain chinese made backdoor that can be used for spying|1 Yeah I know Me and my gf just cancelled our trip to Paris for this reason Not taking any risk|1 Flattening the curve and social distancing might need to last for 612 months to be effective The idea is to reduce the strain on the healthcare system and delay spread of the virus until a vaccine is developed and deployed on a wordwide scale which understandably takes timeThis is the biggest healthcare crisis of our lifetime and our parents lifetime and our grandparents lifetime I cant stress enough how seriously this must be taken|0 Why do you think this Just curious|1 I find it shameful that you label all Chinese as desperate or dangerous Im a foreigner living in Shenzhen The situation is taken seriously but with clear heads Theres no anarchy no chaos The restaurants and markets that are open are all following procedure checking everyones temperature and wearing masks I have a whole album of supermarkets fully or reasonably stocked with masked shoppers around You call me out ill be happy to post the pics and verify with the mods more than what you did Dont fearmonger for karma at the cost of the dignity of an entire people|0 Thats wrong He was a man from Hubei Province His daughter was also infected but now she had recovered and she will be able to leave the hospital soon|0 It might be useful to use a logarithmic scale on the yaxis|1 I keep seeing those numbers of billions and it just wracks my brain Almost every epidemiologist that I follow on Twitter continues these numbers Its like asking the vastness of space hard to conceptualize in visual terms|1 No joke in October I was in Ascona and I paid 95CHF for 1L of Pellegrino and only 18CHF for an excellent calzone I almost puked at the water price|1 If I were you subject to state laws I would tell them youre making a recording video of you requesting treatment for COVID since his symptoms are consistent w it and youre in an area w active outbreak and that if they dont test him and he has it you will hold them as doctors and their hospitals responsible personally financially legally And you will run to the press about this scandal so they better be damn sure about testing Most people dont want to deal with the fallout of a screwup on top of it being sued and having their name in the names for screwing up Hospital may override based on test availability but let them tell you that at least|1 A lot of sources are saying myocardial issues are the cause of crashes after a person tests positive but starts to recover then slides hard and fast|1 Picture a bell curve over a line numbered from 1 day on the left end to 16 days at the extreme right The bell curve middle is centered over 51 days with 975 of the curves area to the left of 115 days and the remaining 25 sliver to the right of 115 and falling to zero by 156|0 Did no one else think he was holding back a cough in his address last night First in between the 55 second and little over a minute markI initially dismissed at as perhaps he doesnt read much but watching it again Id bet a cough lol|1 interesting learned something new|1 Thats possible But I think its more likely that China having seen this firsthand and knowing the reality of the threat will have CV19 tests for anyone showing flulike symptoms Which alone would reduce that possibilityThey also would contact trace send people home for self quarantine and if the severe case numbers get really high send buses of people to the temp hospitals in Wuhan to be treated by doctors and nurses who now have antibody resistance|0 professional actors performing scripted roles how is that frightening|0 The relevance is only really that almost all the cases are still ongoing Thats all I was pointing out with it the outbreak hasnt gone on long enough for many cases to have concluded one way or anotherThere are probably lot less of the untracked mild cases than you think once a case is confirmed their contacts are tracked down even the ones that only have mild cases still get tracked They might be confirmed later than severe cases but in the end they still get confirmed That process catches a significant part of all the infected in a country in some instances like Singapore and HongKong enough to basically halt the outbreak locally which means they must be finding most of them and early enough before they can infect anyone That wouldnt work if you had something like 10X more of undetected cases than detected casesClearly Germany is not doing quite that good a job but theyll still detect most of the cases eventually just not soon enough to prevent enough infections|1 Hes also received a fair amount of criticism for safety at the Tesla plant and has a reputation for being a demanding managerHe once announced that Tesla was going private at 420 a share claimed he had funding lined up and was sued by the SEC for making false claims about itOnce he tasted a joint on a podcast Not a big deal for me but the media went crazy|0 If I lived on his block I would let my dog poop on his lawn from now on And I wouldnt clean it up shakemytinyfist|0 Terrifying thought Its going to be the panic that kills us Civil unrest|0 I dont know where 23 keeps coming from that figure assumes no one else among the infected will die 610 is likely the number in practice but we wont know for sure until the pandemic runs its course or at least until after a month of major outbreak somewhere that isnt China|0 Totally agree Theres a lot of shitty things happening in China a lot of the time Nothing really to look up to from a Western POV But one thing stands China can get shit done if the leadership really wants to and has made up its mind about it That really sets it apart here and its an achievement Im unsure our governments here can unlock so to speak|0 Ewww Bongsforhongkong is gonna have a fit|1 Lmao we finished with that a looooong time ago where I live The US is so behind|1 If there is enough and we wont run out of stuff then why should they stop overbuying|0 My dude This is a dream team of leaders in many different disciplines who have collectively given Canada one of the lowest infection rates in the western world as a result of their strong leadership By listening to science facts and evidence weve averted a catastrophe You only need to look at the disaster in the response thanks to the orange turd leading them to see how bad this could have been We got this|0 Of Course I am not sure the effect is significant but it is an effect for sure|0 Yes|1 Thanks Positive news|1 At the same time well only have to look at the US to see how privatising healthcare is not an effective model for pandemic response|0 Well at least now they are adding relatively s|1 Ludicrous Speed|0 Dont hog the spotlight France is doing fk all about it as well|1 Wow imma be homeless soon|1 Apparently some people are buying them to resell them Some people are buying them instead of toilet paper I mean I can understand using one here and there in normal circumstances I guess but buying them out before people can buy them for their kids is crazy|0 This has been managed so poorly Im so sorry you had that experience I have a family friend in WA state who works at the high school where a student tested positive She is on immunosuppressants for an autoimmune disease and has begun having pretty severe symptoms like pain when breathing She contacted doctors and public health offices and they refuse to test her The only people they would potentially test from that situation are four students who had contact with the positive student Its terrifying and heartbreaking that people are being refused help and testing due to the incompetence of the CDC and others|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules 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bud|0 Its been confirmed since what January That symptoms dont show up until 2 weeks after getting infected Why are people on Reddit more knowledgeable than world leaders at this point|0 Just when I thought this sub couldnt get weirder|1 Just two weeks ago the news here were pretty acurate but when we started diagnosing people all the news say is dont wear masks they are useless and its just the flu theres no need to cancel any event my bet is they dont want the economy to be affected but theyre only making things worse on the long run|0 Seems like they suspended it as of about 10 mins ago|0 Not as many as yesterday but yes The amount of suspected cases took another large scale drop today which indicates they transferred a few thousand more cases to confirmed cases today|0 Sure China nukes its own country first to destroy US economy The other way around would make more sense|0 Think I am bit late Okay if I do from india |1 I was a moderator here in January Exhausting|0 httpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsd1BThHeonsiCGPMN5gPPeLmXD7bmtnPuIQZst8BF25kskedituspsharingMy predictions may be way way off Theres no clever mathematics behind it|1 Hang in there buddy In a few months who knows where well be But heres the thing you need to be around to know for sureTune out the gloom and doom if you can Just know that smart people are in fact making smart decisions right now and that most of the apocalyptic criticism is irresponsible Im going to save this thread of you and I talking here and in a couple months I want to check back in I want us to be able to shoot the shit about what actually happened All the speculation out there and all the assumptions and yes all the panic lets look back at this one day and remember what it was like to live through this In the next big one well need people with cool heads who experienced all this|1 Are these people going to be called racist too because they dont want Chinese in their townIn the West we are called all sorts of names for wanting to enact some measures of selfpreservation|0 For Covid19 60 is elderly unfortunately|0 I read on here that some nurses in China cut their hair short during this because it gives that much more for the virus to catch on especially if you cant wash your hair every day|0 Man Mike is killing it|0 Private hospitals do routine scans and surgery they have no critical care capabilitiesAs soon as someone needs intensive care they transfer them to an NHS wardNo private healthcare in the country can save you from the shortages about to hit|1 France has tested half the number of people we have|1 Theyre watching the people on the ship That wont be affected|1 They will make sure of it |1 Yes and no We had training about this at work I work in the hospital Face masks only protect the wearer for about twenty minutes after which time the moisture on the mask can actually make you MORE susceptible to things getting through So if you wear a mask and you arent contagious youre actually more likely to get it Poor mask usage also increases likelihood to touch your face and unless we are also all wearing eye shields the virus would be able to get into our eyes As there arent physically enough masks for everyone to swap one out every twenty minutes everyone wearing masks could actually exacerbate the problem|0 You need to contact your health services or safety department at work Theres no way a big oil and gas company would be this negligent considering safety is of utmost importance in the industry I also work for a large oil and gas company and our approach has been very good and anyone returning from travels must work from home two weeks This started since Jan|1 Get what youre saying title could have used the word younger to get the point I believe needs to made across Younger people can get sick to the point of needing a hospital bed therefore taking up a bed There seems to be more reports of younger than 65 coming out almost daily now that are hospitalized Im 44 doing what I can not to get it but figured if I did Id just ride it out at home Guess thats not a guarantee|0 Fuck that guy Tell a flight attendant|0 Thank you for your reply What you wrote made a lot of sense I had figured that I might have more time because I am in a rural location in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan Im not so sure now Ugh|0 How about starting a movement to help elderly and disabled people in your neighborhood|1 Why does soap eliminate the phospholipid bilayer destroying the virus|0 Inexplicably some people also allow rumor heresay conjecture etc to heavily influence their views versus performing much if any quantitative analysis in forming views Subjectively more total crime may sound bad more crime on average or per capita be damned SMH|0 I like this idea The question is how many strains will there be in a short time Hopefully next year will be a milder strain like what happened with SARS|1 Thats a very interesting anecdote and I hope the RA patient you work with remains COVID free Its less of a burden and a risk to the healthcare system if you both get tested for the virus Theres no widely available antibody test yet but there are realtime PCR labs sitting idle in most countries and the nucleus acid test costs an upper boundary of about 50 including staff time and equipment time The overly strict testing criteria is the bottleneck for testing rates but that seems to be ramping up now in more countries South Korea are running 10000 tests a day for example It sounds like youre both at high risk and its definitely worth investigating so that you can both be provided treatment if necessary so that local doctors can observe the a case study of an RA patient who may have gained protection from some widely available inexpensive and relatively to standard chloroquine non toxic prophylaxis Of course last but not least its important to use testing of plausibly suspected cases even if and especially when asymptomatic to head off any potential geometric community spread unwittingly and passing it on to other people in especially vulnerable demographics such as the elderly is what creates burdens on healthcare systems not prudent proactivity|1 Time to get out the two free Hak5 bandanas I have and never used Trust your technolust I just hope people dont think Im hacking them|1 What would you like to see considering travel restrictions dont work What action|1 You stock up in order to avoid going to the supermarket and get exposedNot because therell be scarcity of foodThe only way to stop the virus is to stay home The longer the better|0 So theyre going to have infected people going into Walmart and Target to get tested thereby infecting even more people in the communityDid I hear that rightE Okay drive thru testing in their parking lots Im slightly relieved that theyre not THAT stupid|1 Could you have FAH and Rosetta running on the same machine or is that not recommended|0 Ive been an ER nurse for 16 years It cost a lot to go to the ER Just having your vitals checked and history taken in triage will cost you 500 so if you get tired of waiting and leave you still get a bill for that Im not saying anything on the cost of ERs in America because we have the most expensive medical care in the world but I do want to say this If you are sick stay home that is what the CDC has been saying If your wife was worried about exposing her students then she should stay home People have been calling our ER for EVERYTHING This is what I tell them If it is not a symptom you would normally come to the ER for then dont come We will most likely not test you for Covid19 Currently our procedure is to call the state health dept only if you meet certain criteria then they say whether you can be tested That swab is then sent to the state and will take days to come back Just save yourself the money and stay home BESIDES if you dint have Covid but then sit in the ER for hours you probably got it now just sayin|0 Have you noticed how all these Yahoos have the same econ 101 line Its pretty fucking hilarious|1 More incompetence from our so called world leadersHow did these people get these jobs Did they win them in a raffle|1 Being tested would help prevent others from getting critically ill cause once a positive is found they can contact trace Its harder to trace when really ill and cant remember exactly what you did the past few days|1 Thanks I do take vitamin D and my PCP has me take a B complex because I have to avoid as much cholesterol as I can due to a cardiac problem|1 I dont believe it sorry|1 And this is exactly why lying and covering it up at the beginning is so problematic Trust everything runs on it and nobody trust anything anymore and in part because of people slamming people who Express their real emotions and concerns dont just make a political pronouncement lay out the facts People have had it up to here with other people trying to manipulate and control them The only evolved algorithm that has been scientifically proven to be instantiated in the human brain is a cheating detection mechanism Basically people even if they cant articulate it know when theyre being bullshitted Even if youre not an epidemiologist explain to people why you think this is something to be wary of or something to be prepping for whatever your position is the message is in the medium Explain your arguments rationally and logically and call it a day even Given the coverup given given Chinese influence over the WHO given the run on resources given how Chinas actually behaving Ie what theyre actually doing on the ground models that project transmission global travel patterns the actual biological affect of this virus and SARS Before it I think theres a reason for concern Of course panic and fear mongering help nothing but many intelligent people think that theres cause for concern here|0 boomer opinion discarded|0 Initially it was just 72 hours voluntary Clearly the CDC has changed their position on the seriousness of the virus|1 Ah Ill edit the above While Im a subscriber thats a bummer Would be nice if the NYT took down their paywall on the Live Update scroll or even better all coronavirus stories|1 To be fair it was already too late before too These people were infected by January 22nd and even Wuhan didnt begin locking down then|0 never made an entire tankSheesh typical lazy millenials|0 This is so sad|0 Good idea honestly|1 I am watching Trump right now in a press conference saying that their aggressive efforts and screenings are keeping all of us safe Thanks Trump|1 I just figure if Im getting emergency supplies anyway anyway I might as well make it a proper kit The water is for general emergencies rather than specifically coronavirus Its always recommended to have plenty on hand in case of natural disasters in my area earthquakes|1 lol US has the highest standard of living in the worldGoogle average house sizes around the world we beat Europe and everyone else easily we lead the world in medical technology computer technologyand space technology we also invented almost everythingGoogle American Inventionsif you dareWe are the envy of the worldIran by contrast is going thru a Twilight Zone nightmare right now and so is Italy|1 So be it a test kit or CT scan it should get done in some way and it should be free|1 Thats going to be the peak if the experts have it right Not ideal circumstances thats for sure|0 Even the face shields they have probably arent good enough the ones here MB are not|0 What kind of conspiracy do they think it is Are they even aware of how this virus devastated China and then moved on to other nations|0 German here My mother has cancer and is just finished with chemotherapy I am really worried about her since her immune system right now is really weak There are no known cases where my parents live but this can change very quick At work they forbid us to shake hands with each other and said that if one person will get the virus they are shutting down the whole place for 2 weeks as a security measure They will still pay us but this whole situation is scary for sure|0 Add rChinaFlu to the list What a bunch of wu mao clan Man I was a good credit score too but I dont want my score to dictate the outcome of my friendneighbors well being|1 Parts of China still do perhaps it definitely isnt part of mainstream medicine there Parts of Italy have severely badly damaged hospitals particularly in the south where there is considerably less money Italians are also considerably older than Chinese thats probably the key factor here Perhaps China did lie but everyone in this sub seems content to skim past all the other more likely factors Maybe its a bit of both but at least have some intellectual honesty|1 Shutting down the airports is the obvious step We most likely cant stop the spread but we can slow it down enough to save lives It gives researchers time to produce a vaccine and it gives our hospitals time to cope A lot of the people dying in China is due to their health system being completely overwhelmed The whistleblower doctor died because no one checked on him for 11 hours Medical staff dont sleep for days with many just collapsing from sheer exhaustion Itll be easier for our hospitals to deal with it here if we can slow down the infection rate here|0 Hes amazing|1 This sub is just filled with negative nancys i take it|0 The chinese tried that and they broke the door to temperature everyone People were dragged outI dont think you understood Not shoot a video shoot with a firearm Hard for someone to break the door and take a temperature if they are dead|0 When prices of things go up people tend to find a way to handle the scarcity Nice of them to do it for free|1 NCAA has to play the March Madness games behind closed doors|0 Wuhan started off like that too but settled around 34 CFR which is probably closer to the worst case CFR when hospitals become overwhelmed|0 Im pharmacist They generally have the same efficacy and share the same indications of use and adverse drug reaction profile but the dosing is different Less amount of hydroxychloroquine is needed to reach the same serum concentration level vs chloroquine phosphate It is believed in US that hydroxychloroquine is better tolerated thats why we dont see much of chloroquine phosphate but it is manufactured by multiple companies|1 The site thats linked is a fucking autoreposting site which takes feed from other sources rewrites using synonyms and reposts as original work The original reporter called it a single banana|1 No sane politician is talking about a shutdown Get a grip Quit feeding the hysteria|0 So much misinformation Most states are requiring insurance to cover the tests for free and no copay and state testing is already free NY MA for example have announced this You should just contact your stateThats said if you call an ambulance because you have a fever and dont follow simple logic like calling your Dr first then yes you probably will be hit with an Ambulance bill for 2000 People will make this into a 2000 charge for testing but its not|1 I think this is one of the most valid concerns There are already quite a few shortages in supply chains around the world because wins produces a lot of base chemicals materials and parts Having an extra month or two of supply of your medication is surely a good idea but pharmaceutical companies are very good at sourcing and as long as things arent going fully downhill Im sure they will manage to come up with new supply chains|1 People who overplay them are equally bad the world stocks are bleeding people die due to this people are insanely greedy and starving your citizens to save a buck isnt a false reality for someWe should be concerned of course yesBut as of yet this is not a pandemic people need to understand thisThe regular flu killed 80000 in 2018This virus has killed 200 or less this far thats roughly the death count daily from the regular flu If the death rate stays high it will be an issue if it drops its not as bad as people are hyping it to beIt started at 14 then 4 3 2At 2 it is VERY SCARY but I see a pattern already and I honestly feel China knows the infected number is much higher resulting in a lower kill |0 Yeah Im worried about that one too I dont know what I am gonna do Im just going to keep applying to jobs And collect things I dont need anymore to either sell or hopefully give away since Ill be financially stable soon I keep think about Its always sunny the great recession episode Im old poor Im used to surviving on little I cant really help you with much in that regard but I can teach you some old poor shit|0 After having at least 6 weeks of endemic community spread Dont forget that part of the equation|1 People who are not used to taking these precautions are likely going to make some mistake that will waste the mask anyway Also realistically normal people are still very unlikely to come in contact with the virus while medical professionals will be at constant risk of being exposed|0 Here are the publication detailsDiscovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARSrelated coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus PLoS pathogens 1311 2017Ben Hu CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaLeiPing Zeng CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaXingLou Yang CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaXingYi Ge CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaWei Zhang CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaBei Li CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaJiaZheng Xie CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaXuRui Shen CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaYunZhi Zhang Yunnan Institute of Endemic Diseases Control and Prevention Dali China Dali University Dali ChinaNing Wang CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaDongSheng Luo CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaXiaoShuang Zheng CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaMeiNiang Wang CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaPeter Daszak EcoHealth Alliance New York New York United States of AmericaLinFa Wang Programme in Emerging Infectious Diseases DukeNUS Medical School SingaporeJie Cui CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan ChinaZhengLi Shi CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan China|1 Well at the very least Trump has a huge impact on public opinion which can lead to people supporting or hating tough decisions The federal government can also mandate canceling of public gatherings of various scale Beyond forcing people to cancel it can also trigger act of god coverage with insurance on events or refunds on various deposits etc So the federal government can do a lot to mitigate the costs associated with canceling large events Many people will wait as long as possible to cancel hoping for such decrees As long as the president and his staff act like its nothing to worry about the harder it is to cancel and pretending otherwise is laughable|1 The movie was the most popular thing ever in 1997|1 Have you been going to your OB appointments How has that been And if you dont mind sharing where are you located|0 Oh geez I think Microsoft Word may have changed the spelling and I didnt catch it Updating now thank you|1 Man the flu is the real deal A couple of our kids got the flu a couple years ago while my wife was pregnant and it was really scary Our kids had fevers as high as 106 degrees and were on medication around the clock to keep their fevers down for about a week It was a heck of a lot worse than a normal cold|0 Maybe herd immunity still stands Theres no logic answer to some of the things they have said doesnt much look like delay at this stage|0 My friend is flying somewhere tomorrow totally unnecessary trip|1 Fuck man How does that conversation goSo you do have coronavirusdamn well at least Im healthy and young so I should be okayuh yeah you got cancer too|0 Okay I was just being silly In truth current recommendations are to treat the symptoms drink lots of fluids eat good healthy clean food fruits veggies get good sleep and perhaps do what you can to boost your immune system This could mean eating more garlic or foods rich in vitamin C There are some reports accessible drugs such as Chloroquine Phosphate are an effective treatment Its an antimalaria drug thats cheap and has been around for 70 years But we are waiting on more data to confirm Much of the things you could do need to happen BEFORE you get sick the 3 pillars being eat right exercise and get good sleepPlus all the personal protection things such as avoiding sick people keeping your hands clean An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure Some might even suggest things like breathing techniques could help Wim Hof has a breathing ice bath methodology which was proven to basically eliminate all those unpleasant symptoms you get when youre sick httpsyoutubeA6jqaALpEFMNot sure if youll heal faster but its something to consider Also going to the sauna twice a week has shown to reduce risk of pneumoniahttpswwwtelegraphcoukscience20171009saunascutpneumoniariskHope this helps All the best|1 Weve wasted SO much time not preparing as a community due to all of the misinformationI bought a bunch of medicine and groceries to stock up my moms condo for several months I bought her a pulse ox a thermometer and made sure her home bp cuff was working I made her fill out a medical history form with me and track her normal vitals This was in late January She thought I was absolutely nutsUp until about mid February she was still going out even though I told her to stay home She told me Im not elderly and I dont have any underlying health conditions They say Ill be fineShes 68 shes had cancer twice and had lymph nodes removed She takes daily medication for her blood pressure She had NO idea these were underlying conditions She believes me now after watching this all unfold But the press and the President could have done a much better job from the start educating people Using words like seniors and specifically naming conditions that put you at a higher risk Telling people specifically that there will probably be closures to slow this down so hospitals can keep upTransparency doesnt cause panic People finding out theyve been lied to up until the last second does This didnt have to be so bad Many Americans would have protected themselves if they had been told the truth|0 Youre being naive|0 Im wondering if I may have had it a month and a half ago My wife is a flight attendant and she came back from a flight feeling ill Had a sore throat dry cough and fever for 2 days and then a few days later I got it Same thing I dont think our kids ever experienced any symptoms that we noticed Anyways at the time we thought we may have had a flu or a bad cold but we didnt have runny noses stomach aches or the runs Looking back we may have had coronavirus as it fits the symptoms I guess theres no way for me to know now|0 i unfollow everybody who posts bs on facebook you do not have to put up with their constant daily bs fueled out of their inferiority complex i also highly recommend installing this plugin to block as much noise from facebook as possible httpswwwfacebookcomfluffbustingpurityhttpswwwfacebookcomfluffbustingpurity|0 Im not trying to call out anyone else just been reflecting about the overall attitude to the outbreak including mine Isnt inherently racist to dismiss using masks as superstition among certain eastAsian cultures and also dismiss the virus outbreak as just something going on in china as it has before As we cannot learn from Asian people and as if my white skin color somehow prevent me from getting a disease that has its outbreak in China Its like we insist on having a globalized interconnected world without also accepting that that means we are in this ship together when it comes to war spreading of diseases etcHopefully if nothing else its not only me that has gotten a thing or two to reflect on and be more aware of Thank you for your comment that really sparked me to write down and think about these reflections|1 899 per night Its like 10000 per night|1 yes they feed them w ritalin httpsenwikipediaorgwikiMethylphenidate well not all of them just those that cannot sit quietly for 2 hours at age of 5|1 People can be so selfish|0 Auto mod your the worst|0 I am too You could tell though this was a telepromper speech and he wasnt winging it which is good because that is what this speech needed to be|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Seriously Where was this reported|0 Great info Some people are stocking up to avoid going out and catchingspreading the virus Not sure how many of them are actually panicking|0 Dont worry guys its just the flu Nobody should be worried right|0 It is normal to feel worried Even without the Covid to contend with Ill health of a loved one is never easy Try to only worry about what you can do today Take sensible measures to protect yourself and your family This includes looking after your mental health Phone a friend try to sleep well eat healthily get some fitness work in I am worried too but we can only do the best we can|1 wow nice account|1 Pirates Life is Me by My Hero is Me|1 I think theyre all too new so there arent generics yet But as someone said the drug companies can be very generous I also got Humira for 5 a month And Otezla was free|1 Except the articles if Bezo backed companies that wont be paying sick leave like Whole Foods|1 I know Yesterday I went out for the first time since last Friday King County wore a mask glasses and gloves Didnt see a single other person wearing anything and people looked at me like I was an alienTwo vendors at a drug story had an active debate going when I walked into their isle as soon they saw me both went completely silent until I left the isle and started walking awayIve lived in Asia for the last several years where wearing a mask is a norm during flu season even if youre not sick|1 Its pretty depressing to see especially when you know people arent going to wear them right or wont swap them out when they need to Its basically daylight robbery|1 This is alarming At this rate in 90 days 13958643712000 people will be infected Thats 13 trillion people were talking about rdidthemath|0 If I can get one of these in my hands I will reverse it and distribute the files to everyone I dont know if its possible but I have the tools to do it Fuck greedy asshats|0 Peoples houses can only hold so much toilet rolls their freezers can only hold so much pizza From a practical viewpoint panic buying is selflimitingAlso panic buying is driven by the spread of fear Once the panic buyers are outnumbered by the normal shoppers theyll also calm down|0 COVID19 is SARS 20 Severe Acute Respiratory SyndromeI think the worst part about this virus is that it might have terrible after effects on your body it stays in your brain even after you beat it Lots of folks died not because of the respiratory issues but heart attacks Oh and there is the thing where it affects males more than females and it might make them sterileThis virus literally acted like a sentient being or was mutated by one to develop these specific traits If youve played Plague Inc viruses are highly unstable and mutate on their own you just have to keep them spreading as fast as possible make them less deadly in the beginning and when you infect everybody then you go wild with the resistance to drugs heat cold and develop that deadliness factor It seems like all of us will be infected in the span of 2 years hopefully scientists tame it till then|0 FYI leading into elections parties that dont have the votes to pass a law will always put forth populous benefitting legislation knowing itll fail so they can use it during campaign season|1 Ive not read that but I have to imagine lots of fake news will be circling around Think about it All these companies are currently losing billions One fake article from the acetaminophen company that catches on like wildfire that ibuprofen is bad could potentially be worth billions and billions|0 Im sorry this is happening and wish everyone good health Its encouraging to hear this and hope this is the way we as human beings can all react in such dire circumstances Good luck|1 The government sent out a list of 110 hospitals in the city that have the kits to test for the coronavirus If you try to go somewhere else with those symptoms youll be turned away and told to go to one of those places I get texts from a private hospital I use every few days reminding me to wash my hands wear a mask etc But they also tell me some new regulations like make sure you arrive at least 30 minutes early for appointment your temperature will be tested before entering and you can only be accompanied by one healthy personI also havent been to any hospital since this outbreak began but there are always tons of people at the hospital and though they can be very annoying at times hence why I use private ones now thanks insurance but they are fairly streamlined and efficient So I would imagine with how serious this is being taken they would do a good job getting people in and out and sorted for the most part|1 prototype grade injection molds can be turned around in a week or so if theyre not too complex and you have a good relationship with a supplier that will get you to the front of the line Once the mold is done parts can be made at lightning speedBut building with off the shelf parts would be ideal An ultrasonic humidifer o2 tank a few pressure regulators a vac pump a few solenoids and a PLC with open source logic could probably get the job done The problem is youll quickly run out of those parts as well|1 Lol as if the corrupt af Olympic organization would cancel Theyll hold the games regardless of a public health crisis then go on TV and complain attendance is down|0 You think its an attack|0 Yea I stopped loading my bongs with tobacco at the bottom Not too fussed about the weed smoke to be honest because its nowhere near as bad as tobacco Even the weed probably puts me at higher risk but to be honest Im a healthy active Younga so Ill probably be absolutely fine|1 What an idiotic anti science mentality Are you American by chanceEdit I see you are Its going to be hilarious to see what happens to your country because of your Muh rights mentality Do me a favour and dont change Fight it to the death and remember this conversation when an elderly loved one is incredibly sick you absolute fucking moron|0 Didnt take it that way but I hear ya All good mate |1 Agreed I think theyre better off asking and offering hazard pay to nurses working in ancillary departments to go back to the floors think people in Quality Research IT PSI etc|1 Russia has all kinds of deaths that are ignored One more source of death nobody talks about is nothing|0 Im a caretaker for an elderly woman who takes immunosuppressant medication My daughter came down with a cough last week and I told her to be safe I wouldnt be coming and apologized She seemed sort of irritated because I told her I was fineI just found out the hospital my daughter and I visited last week has confirmed cases of covid as of today a doctor and a patient The hospital we visited before her symptoms startedI let my client know and shes now very grateful I chose to stay home Credit to her rheumatologist though who also really drilled it into her that this is a serious disease and she needed to cancel her upcoming visit to a tourist town on the coast Shes 87Im still not getting paid but thats okay Im in a good place My heart goes out to those who arent|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed20096315httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed20096315Im not vouching for this paper in any way only read the abstract I just find it interesting|1 YeahI say minimum 1k cases that arent known I have a strong feeling at least 3 people have it and worked at retail or fast food today spreading it to people|0 Already hit the big carnival jackpot 2 weeks ago What the hell are they waiting for Still dont believe the ItalianChineseIranian stories|0 I live in Brazil You summarized it all dude Thats the general feeling On my circle of friends and relatives only me and a friend are preparing He works in the medical field and is following along since the start of the outbreak His thoughts are concerning He being a former chief of nurses he said it will completely black out our public and private health system if anything like wuhan in 2040 severity reach us Its total State collapse|1 Well Those are usually acetaminophen|1 Ill take your word for it I have never seen the end of a porn vid|0 Im loving some of these jokes on the coronavirus subs|1 The Doctor died because he was probably working long and hard hours and his immune system was compromised If past evidence has shown anything is that China was working people for 2022 hours a day Another fact is that China is lying about the numbers the virus spreads exponentially but Chinas number dont support this This leads me and many other people to believe that the numbers are close to 10x higher then reported The death rate is probably accurate though The problem is that China reported such low numbers that this did not set alarm bells off to the rest of the world Also the WHO is guilty as hell they have down played this way to much because of that CCP incentive or incompetence Even now they are saying the Virus is contained its not Factories are reopening theyre not Were now screwed in the US because the current administration is almost as corrupte as the CCP and the WHO Even now I see more and more CCP propaganda news flash the Chines have cracked down on VPNs since last month That means nothing bad comes out and only approved curated messages come out|0 He threw up I think three times within four hours The worst was probably his third and fourth day after symptoms started|0 I dont think its widespread in the downtown Seattle area yet When that happens it will be ugly|0 I love that they interview an american who chose to stay on the ship but cut him off before he can talk about the part where hes now banned from entering the US until like march 4th or something|0 Free porn is nothing good Its all toxic|1 Thats the week that has me most anxious how will the American public at large react How will the authority figures enforce It could get extremely bloodyEdit a downvote Maybe because I mentioned bloody In areas like LA and SF things will get weird In smaller communities I dont expect too much chaos|0 Youre right comrade 225 the government told me so it must be true|1 She is responsible for so many infected dumb people and sadly collaterally also good nice people|0 Its funny how older people are more conservative and yet vote for people that are against medical for all and regulation on medications pricing and then ask so whens testing gonna be widely available Why s a covid test cost 3000 dollars|1 So if I have the flu then the government should be able to use force to detain me Can I be arrested|0 You like that Try some of this superheroin 100 COVID19 subreddits in one feed Pure highgrade httpswwwredditcomuserRoughTouristmcovidhttpswwwredditcomuserRoughTouristmcovid|1 Okay im saying it and I know youre gonna downvote but 17 million in 3 weeks is not only exponential but delusional you guys can me on this in 3 weeks but therell never be that much cases in 3 weeks at least not confirmed tested|1 Soon they will have more recovered than infected Next is Putin will be credited with inventing the cure|0 There are very real risks to overreacting Hoarding of food or supplies overwhelming the medical system with nonserious problems that prevent actual sick people from being seen or worsespreading disease from sick people being in the same area as nonsick people wouldnt doubt this happened in Wuhan and panicking generally leads to irrational crap like xenophobia and legal decisions that strip peoples rights Overreacting generally isnt so bad individually its when the situation boils over in widespread fashion that reactions start to feed into huge problems and exacerbate the original problem|0 sorry for that i just got his photoHe is a Physician Without distinction between departments all doctors became respiratory doctors|0 Research coronavirus and HIV and encephalitis and seizures This virus gets into the central nervous system|0 From now on comes Attack of the Titan style of life Except we will be confined to single room|0 Restaurant owners and bar owners now cursing him out lol hardly any virus cases in Ohio right now hope the state can help out those businesses|1 I am flying in from the Caribbean to Newark Airport I am not traveling from a high risk Euopean country But Newark is one of the 13 airports with screeningWill I be stuck in this line even though I dont need screening Or will there be a magical route around and through normal immigrationcustoms|0 yes its really true that in general kids are almost spookily unaffected by this coronavirus and tend to be entirely nonsymptomatic Thats not to say that you shouldnt continue to be careful and take the appropriate precautions but for whatever reason children are not an atrisk class in this outbreak On the flipside elderly people seem disproportionately at risk compared to say the flu|0 Sadly|0 They are being harmed on no way other than what they were willing to subject their customers and employees to|0 Well remember that the entire practice of most of the Asian continent wearing masks started from SARS in 2002 Before then it was quite rare to see masks worn in public with the exception of a few industrial regions and in those cases it was due to pollution If this outbreak gets as bad as some are predicting we could see masks becoming a common phenomenon here as well Sadly on the radio here in Nova Scotia this morning a health official being interviewed recommended people not wear masks saying it will not help them Sad that they dont understand it goes both ways and prevents sick people from spreading it as well|0 My point exactly they are refusing to test anyone for novel c unless people start piling up so they can avoid hysteria as long as possible Would be lovely to brush it under the rug as the flu unless the infected become contagious later when their immune systems weaken or there are long term health consequences like with other viruses HBV chronic fatigue HPV cancer possible autoimmune disorders|0 One of my uber drivers told me he refuses to eat at fast food restaurants He picks up a few people there and said some of them were obviously sickAll the while the US does nothing muchIm ok though I have to wear a military police issue riot gas mask with bio warfare specd breathing apparatus that costs more than most of my drivers carsLuckily they all just figure i am a nut job It makes me nervous though being in Seattle and the US with how degenerate they are in treating their citizens|0 I think the time for the administration to have a cohesive public message was a month ago I think thats why a lot of the people here are upset with this news|0 A honeycomb lung is clearly not found in all survivors Lung damages are also clearly not found in ALL survivors some people dont even have symptoms or have only mild symptoms and for many the lung is not involved For the first cluster in Germany which is largley resolved nobody will have that Cold symptoms dont destroy your lungsjust ones that turn severe and survive pneumoniaA fraction of those could have lasting lung damages I dont think there is data about that so far If somebody saw a paper about that please correct me|1 I was wondering what the reaction would be Cases announced in Oregon also Should turn into a shit show at stores in the next few days|0 I hope thats the case With the amounts of troops in vulnerable areas though like Asia and now even Western Europe it can be an area of concern moving forward|1 Do you have a problem with dividends too or just stock buybacks because you dont understand them|0 Its worse if you dont shut down Then you have to shut down more people for a longer time|0 I know a bridezilla She got a venue that her friend owns to make sure it does not shut down Her show is going on|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 If you make a choice about your health and your friend takes it personally Id be questioning that friendship Err on the side of caution on this one please In your case your life may depend on it|1 I never said it wont but there are no more than 2 dozen cases in NYC right now and some people on here are acting like its the end of the world We all understand the seriousness of this virus its why we are here but we need to be responsible about the things we say and give people advice based on what is happening on the ground and not what we wish will happen|1 To be honest more info probably would just inspire more fear in most people Its likely that just trying to calm people down so they dont panic clear out grocery stores will result in better conditions|1 Be patient with them If youre in an area with confirmed cases already those medical staff are probably tired stressed and overworked too I know its frustrating on your end but the shortage of tests means that most of them are being reserved for people who are ill enough to require hospitalization Our whole health sector Im assuming youre in the US is woefully underprepared for the influx of sick thats heading their way|0 AND CONTRACTORS Is the big if true here Janitors cooks office staff That would be good|1 To be clear thousands of confirmed cases The cases are already here it is testing procedures s that are changing and thus the extent of what is already happening will be known|1 As far as I know none of the 12 German have serious symptoms|0 I am not a virologist but I would hypothesize that mild cases corellate with lower level exposure to the virus more than anything else It stands to reason that exposure to 10 virus particles presents a much smaller challenge to the immune system than exposure to 1000 particles A fundamental tenent of toxicology is that it is the dose that makes the poison Pathogens could be modelled as self replicating toxic particles The higher the initial dose exposure the greater the chance immune system defenses will be overwhelmed all else held constant Thus mild cases may largely be cases of minimal exposure Supporting this we have the anecdotal examples of young healthcare workers dying in china presumably following large prolonged exposures It suprises me how little dose response effect is discussed|1 If youre parents are coming home from the US why do you need to isolate with them|0 Other articles say so To be honest i agree they should all be closed for 15 days and i really hope im wrong here is another article for example httpswwwtyposthesgroikonomia211190ektaktoesthgiakoronoiokleistakatastimatamehri183stithessalonikifbclidIwAR2RATRBT6Rk8ljglV5fURCid2jV6GmTBLmksYCKIXbkPpGPDy5S6WI|1 Came here to say the same thing They are so fucked Everyone who hasnt already flipped to online game purchasing is about to|0 Fuck patents then i guess Fuck copyrights|0 Rationing of day care Only for essential worker and only for small children A child of 12 can stay alone for the day That reduces group size by repurposing all the teachers and forbiding groups from mixing|1 Oh shit another one Could I get a link for it|0 There is no direction to point nurses are considered professionals and this is the job|0 Shiyan city14 day staycation bro whats not to like|0 we dont need to give drug companies exclusive rights to compounds that are discoveredAfter a drug company spends billions of dollars to discover the compound and go through the FDA approval process they should just give it away Or see it stolen by people in another country who think they have the right to just take it I can actually see this working but only once After that the drug companies will move to Mars just to get away from all the thieves|0 At this point Im so tired of being worried Its out of our control now Just take extra care and whatever happens happens We just have to ride it out Dont forget stress wreaks havoc on your immune system|0 The data is wrong|0 Did you do one in Mandarin also Me and my wife are fluent so wed be cool with that |1 Im in the medical field and we are hearing we might not get supplies Initially we would be fine but there is a certain items that we 100 need imported from different countries Obviously I am in a specialized field but we are cautiously moving forward and might be delayed in the future Its not good but still remaining optimistic|1 I dont wish any disease on anybody but hiding that you are sick and not testing yourself and getting others sick is reckless|0 Where are you returning to in the US Many cities have started mutual aid groups to help each other out because our government is not handling this well|1 Mechanical engineer with microbiology background and experience in hospital pharmacy checking in I dont know what I can do to help but I am interested in pitching in|1 For reference the Spanish Flu in New Zealand apparently affected between a third and a half of the population simultaneously sourcehttpswwwnzgeocomstoriesinfluenzaSo numbers higher than 25 are definitely possible|0 I just hate us so much Selfish Entitled Dumb Brash Our country deserves its reputation|0 This is slightly more encouraging|1 Thats not true and while they should be saved for healthcare professionals it doesnt help just spreading misinformation If they didnt help you avoid the virus healthcare workers wouldnt use them The reason theyre not as effective with the general public is because most people dont wear them correctly and also even when worn correctly you have your eyeballs or even hands that you could then touch your face with later But just saying masks dont help you not get it is completely false|0 Nobody but nobody tells Philadelphia what to do Phillys attitude is Philadelphia vs everybody and theyll be damned to let anyone to tell them what to do|0 weve only tested something like 200 people we probably have well over 15k|1 How about just dealing with the still not that high possibility of death like a mature adult This is what humans have done for hundreds of thousands of years ever since they began to comprehend death The past 150 years in have been absolutely unique in the whole human history that healthy young people in developed countries could wake up every morning not even considering the possibility of not seeing it to the night because the risk of death from any cause was virtually nonexistent This isnt normal its not something to be taken for granted and yet we still doBut maybe instead of keeping our heads in our arses we should we grateful for all those years of peace safety and good health weve had Am I scared Yeah of course I am Im higher risk than the average in my age group because Im on biologics That doesnt mean Im going to keep denying that its possible for young healthy people to die from this just because admitting this would shatter my worldview Were not special were not invincible we could still die Pandemics have always killed young people too this one wont be an exception Lower risk no risk at allId rather admit reality than live in delusion|0 Hey might not help with the virus but will help with boredom of being in self isolation|0 That projected number of deaths is missing a zero|0 And thats the issue Looks like the R0 for Covid 19 is about 2 Thats twice the seasonal flus|1 And yet NakaNon is still going cuz theyre morons|0 Its interesting that this gets upvoted whilst mine is downvoted Hypervigilant rightwingers in this sub is not surprising but apparently theyre the antiwar rightwingers |1 The fatality rate is highly dependent on health care system Specifically the availability of oxygen mechanical ventilation and ICU care All analysis so far says the virus is very stable Its just fatal for about 20 if without oxygen supply 5 if without ICU care The lowest record of fatality rate is from Singapore 0 fatality|0 When you grow a baby your blood fuels their growth Through this they develop a pretty robust immune system for the first few months of life Eventually this fades and they start fresh but your immune system will help them in the short term after birth It may not help specifically with this specific coronavirus but it will help fight any assault that tries to infect your baby I hope this eases your stress somewhat|1 Ill give you a free invisible friend hope you enjoy|1 Im stating a fact not making a joke|0 Its not actually split by borough its split by local authority London BoroughshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiLondonboroughs are classed separately to the boroughs in Manchester and Birmingham which are metropolitan boroughshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMetropolitanborough So Barnet Council for example is classed as a local authority whereas I think Oldham is being classed a metropolitan borough of the Greater Manchester combined local authority|1 wow that is some high quality stupid you have there cupcake I am sad someone hurt you and I hope you feel better soon Maybe try not to be a dumbfuck and life will treat you better|1 Dont worry I did get that But if you want to vent feel free|1 Researchers at the NIH copied the section of the virus genetic code that contains the instructions for cells to create the spike protein Moderna encased that messenger RNA into a vaccineThe idea The body will become a minifactory producing some harmless spike protein When the immune system spots the foreign protein it will make antibodies to attack and be primed to react quickly if the person later encounters the real virusThats a much faster way of producing a vaccine than the traditional approach of growing virus in the lab and preparing shots from either killed or weakened versions of it Not your ordinary vaccine which is why they were able to fasttrack it Theyre only giving the body the spike protein portion|0 My gut says that this virus will be hanging around for a few years more or less continuously and will test our collective attention span and ability to sustain the effort to fight it Once were into March 2021 and still hearing about deaths from the virus infection well be so inured to the whole thing that well likely relapse into our old way of doing things Thats the real way the virus has a chance to kill us not over the course of shortterm crisis response but over the course of prolonged inurement It has happened over and over again throughout the history of our society I hope that this wont be the one time our modern nature leads to our extinction|1 Yep I remember warnings from1992 when I learnt about exponential growth in viruses Our lecturer talked about the world being way overdue for a Pandemic and the consequences She said that she lectured on this fact to all her students every year hoping that one of us would end up employed in a job where we could do something about it 200203 The SARS virus the news during the outbreak said it might be the big one The news after it said we should take it as a reminder and prepare accordingly|1 The spookiest part to me are those cases outside of China that are climbing very slowly but surely Over the past week and a half in the US for example weve gone from one to two to five to seven Same goes for Thailand Singapore Australiaits slow but thats what makes this virus so concerning|1 People trying to cash out before the recession|0 Good their company sucks Fuck Airbnb|0 I have the same one and its the best thing|1 Any clue what the early CFR estimates were for H1N1 I remember the panic over it quite well But no real details other than people being terrified and my bro getting it|0 Hes a ridiculously famous actor and has been the Sexiest Man Alive|1 Thank you for sharing|1 I made it I consulted with a virologist a microbiologist and read a bunch of papers on mask effectiveness from surgical to cloth masks and what types of fabrics do better|1 If he said something then rest assured its a lie|1 what kind of racist bullshit fuck you macleans|0 Thats good news testing must be as high as possible Remember any positive cases are here anyway whether tested or not|1 I recommended it to my mother and once I got started I realized that this was a bad idea I just went ahead and told her that the UK prime minister was forced to fuck a pig shes a grown up after all and likes offbeat shows She got this funny skeptical look Ive never seen on her before Like a mix of What the fuck are they airing on Netflix and what the fuck is wrong with you|0 Thank you This is nice but it still only breaks it down by province instead of city on the map but it does list the most recent cases below so you should still be able to figure it out|1 Yeah better safe than sorry really at this point|1 You are spreading misinformation Now your excuse is that youre doing it for a good reason stopping people from hoarding masks that professionals will need on the front line But youre still spreading misinformation Dont do that|0 if everyone was infectedEven the fastspreading highly contagious Swine flu some years ago only infected like 15 of global population in two years so your hypothetical is quite overboard It isnt an easy situation but short periods of losing bigger numbers of older iller people isnt something unknown to western world in 2003 weve lost up to 70000 people because of multiple unprecedented heat waves here in Europe|0 Dont forget pornhub|1 Then theres a cluster that gets picked up or they self resolve Ie it either causes a ripple that gets picked up or goes away without a hint Singapore is a small place 5 million people but 24 miles East to West and 16 north to south in a diamond shape|1 I dont know if Ill be able to quit and now Im scared So thats cool|1 because of chinas reaction you can be confident it is|1 Wuhan was well behind most of the west in terms of hospital beds and hospital doctors per capita though|1 The people who do meth also do heroin where I live and you can see what is available any given week by walking through the park I will watch and see what they do|0 THATS what Im most scared about I work at a hospital but I dont do inpatient care so if they turn to emergency only for some reason Im SOL Especially since the hospital I work at has already stated that any time off will be counted as unpaid and if you dont have the pto to cover you fucked I can afford to take off for one week and thats it unless I actually get sick then I can take a full month|0 Well we do have an election coming up and there is Russian tampering again We dont need a repeat of 2016 It may be a little more important right now to defend our entire democracy from foreign influence and to try to restore some dignity to the office of the President|1 You could reach out to local churches and ask if they have congregants who need help|1 lolz true|1 This is The sort of real analysis and explanation Im actually taken back by and am ashamed I didnt realise Actually puts a different spin on it all Makes me feel more compassionate rather than angry about it all|0 Unfortunately he learned a valuable lesson and then became a super spreader to his team family friends and fans Wow|1 also experiencing the lead head thank you for putting this into words it sucks i cant focus on more than one activity at a time and its not really anything ive felt before so so bizarre|0 Doesnt anyone still think this is a little extreme though FIVE years in jail Id probably punish offenders in some way financially or maybe threaten with a maximum one year prison time in extreme cases but this is a bit much honestly If you get infected how do you for example use the grocery store without infecting others and without breaking the quarantine I understand not going to concerts or something like that but there are times when you need to leave the houseapartment and if you do so arent you then liable for imprisonment|0 Wales does not have a hard border and its been confirmed in Newcastle now too|1 Seriously Wtf do we pay them for|0 Wow A few monthsi just puked|1 Uhhh checks notes yes|1 Grazie I hope you and your beautiful country fare well Ive had some lovely times there|1 Its amazing you have such concrete information on the virus|1 Windycom does not have its own prediction algorithm Its just a distribution of the NASA GEOS5 22km datasethttpsiimgurcom2Wx6xaMpng This dataset is demonstrably not accurate because it does not show emissions from adverse events This dataset is shared with earthnullschoolnet except that distribution allows you to view outdated forecasts It fails to forecast emissions that happened following the Taal Volcano eruption in the Philippineshttpsearthnullschoolnet202001130800Zchemsurfaceleveloverlayso2smassorthographic1219123161500loc12026217547|0 I cant even get a straight answer as to where|0 The bars in my town are telling people that theyre perfectly safe because they sanitize every surface While better than nothing theyre definitely contributing to a much steeper peak|1 Well that brings up another question a 3 week shutdown isnt going to flatten the curve much You are going to be in the same place we are now with 8 times as many cases but probably not 16 times as many Obviously you should shutdown again but now lots of maintenance hasnt happened for three weeks The cycle then repeats because were not going to have a vaccine for monthsIt just seems to me that maybe we should have considered widespread testing to plot the progress specific isolation of the infected during that preparation for shutdown at the same time and implementing the broader shutdown for the entire peak period at the point we were confident it would stick all the way to the peak We might have reacted too slowly at first and now in the wrong way|0 Im giving it another two or three weeks before we start getting headlines about people shooting each other for goods and suicides I hope Im wrong|1 I work two jobs both retail I got sick a couple of days ago Then woke up strangely fine then started getting sick again that night Now Im taking the week off from both jobs Unfortunately thats all the sick pay I have After that I HAVE to go back Both jobs were slightly confused as to why I was calling out for the whole week I had to explain that I want this thing to pass as much as possible I work with people who already have compromised immune systems Although even they arent taking this seriously Almost no one I work with isSo overall it will be a 9 day quarantine then back to work|0 Get this to the fucking top|1 In other words for nearly all cases the R0 might be extremely low but for a small minority its enormous|0 forget about those numbers they are pointless and completely inaccurate at this stage This virus has an algorithmic growth and if the entire planet does not shelter in place the losses will be catastrophic|0 looks at Best Buy|1 This is so important Ive been tested but I really just have symptoms of a mild virus The doctor who tested me said hes seen people that present totally healthy and normal and still test positive Meanwhile there are people dying who are testing negative He said theres not one set of symptoms thats been common among all of his patients This is why social distancing and hygiene are important|1 They dont have a national debt of 23 trillion while in the midst of a trade war tho|0 I will 1 be crushed Ill be crushed if someone I love dies|0 Hi can you provide the source that said the wuhan crematorium normally operate 4 hours per day to cremate 200 dead from natural coursesI am not doubting you I would like to gather enough data to calculate the death rate based on maximum processing capacity for the crematoriums|0 Novel CoronavirusThats not the name Coronavirus is the name of the family of virus and novel is used when the virus hasnt been seen before SARSCoV2 is the name of this new virus and it causes the disease Covid19 which is the official name youre seeing being used during this current pandemic|1 Before things get wacky Are we at that point already I didnt think we were there yet but when I read it it felt true|1 They still fought against paying any taxes and support governments who wont give us health care so this is the least they can do|1 This meme is so old I feel like were giving away our ages by knowing about it I swear this was from like 2000 or 2001|1 yeah hes pretty new and i dont know anything about him at all but i like the way hes handled this situation so far|1 Thanks for posting OP Please keep us posted|1 Your definition is flawed The virus cant spread to new populations without contact with infected populations unless youre saying convergent evolution has to occur before it can be called a pandemicIf you simply mean community spread in multiple populations around the world then we have a pandemic|1 Well thats good to know I was worried it could turn into something lifelong like herpes|1 Greed and govt stupidity will kill more people than the actual virus|0 I wish this comment was higher up top Most things people read are Our government is incompetent so they automaticaly believe what this senator is saying is right But no one talks about the case tracking thats been done on every imported case and how they and their confirmed contacts were quarantined for two weeks immediately|0 Why do you assume they arent able to stop it in any of the cities Or at least contain it to a low level The hospitals in the other regions of China arent overflowing the only two provinces with over a thousand cases are Zhenjiang and guongdong A study found that over 90 of cases in those areas cane from people in Hubei not local transmissions|0 Now more than ever it is important to toss a coin to your Witcher Also dont forget to tip a little extra to those people working in the restaurant industry processing take out orders|1 our elevated mortality rateis not related to any other aspect of this crisis I havent checked the death toll yet today but as of yesterday there had been 17 deaths in America 12 of those died at that one hospital in Kirkland and 10 of those were elderly residents from that one nursing homeOver 300 people were exposed to one degree or another at that nursing home including something like 125 residents All those residents were at a significantly higher risk of dying from this disease than most people23 of our mortality rate so far consists of a single outlierThis epidemic has exposed a number of serious lifethreatening problems with Americas ability to respond to an outbreak However once somebody is in a hospital receiving treatment our doctors arent doing any better or worse than doctors in other countries Thats one thing people should stop freaking out about|0 Something that apparently wasnt as funny as I thought it was right after waking up judging by the downvotes|0 You get cytokine storm even with regular old flu It makes complete sense and this disease is almost certainly causing it|0 im not sure either my blood is green and glows in the dark which type is it|0 Same My 10 year old has had a cough cold like symptoms Had a 1015 fever for just one night I called the doc they said he doesnt fit the criteria Idk if its the covid or something else The not knowing is so frustrating I also work with patients in dental And my co workers arent taking this serious Its just like the flu is what I keep hearing I work in kirkland Near the nursing home that had the outbreak Ive known this would get bad The incompetence is staggering Living through your worst fear is awful This is a nightmare waiting to come to life|0 Yep most nicotine addicts will never quit so harm reduction is the best bet|1 That would mean 165 million people Approx 1020 experiencing serious symptoms would mean 16 million people with pneumonia Probably 35 million requiring respirators out of that The US has 100k ICU beds People would be dropping dead right and left if half the country was infected Youre nuts|0 Where are you from Is there any diagnosesIm very sorry that this is happening to you|0 Hi stupid question coming up from someone with no experience of running a businessHypothetically if the government introduced a Universal Basic Income and removed the obligation for closed businesses to pay staff what would be your remaining running costs Is there any cost that couldnt feasibly just be forgiven by the government so that you can basically zero outgoings to match your zeroed incomeIm asking because it seems like this would be the only way for most businesses to survive months of shutdown|0 This is not good advice If experiencing severe symptoms see a Healthcare provider or go to an emergency room There is no approved treatment for covid19 as of now which means treatment is purely supportive ie symptom control so whether an individual is tested or not doesnt necessarily matter for their individual outcome this is more relevant for containing the spread of the disease etc and anyone showing symptoms should self quarantine or if severe enough seek hospitalization regardless of having a test result Please stop spreading bad advice and fearmongering|0 Honestly I stopped watching the news and unfollowed every news social media account This is the only covid oriented place I visit Its concerning obviously but I also try to keep perspective|1 Cant believe they were all bussed together tbh Let alone fly together|0 What the And that screaming weird|0 No she is not a manager at all If you are decent at your job you can get into a decent home with good ethics that is not 100 thinking of ways to maximize profits She is as you say one of the foot soldiers|1 People in government generally dont even get fired for poor performance much less criminally prosecutedId be happy if they were merely fired as routinely happens in the private sector|1 Well you know our governors nickname is Windbreaker Cuomo and he loves being a hero and rescuing folks from overturned cars He was more or less pleading with the New Rochelle school district to shut the high school that was 4 blocks from the synagogue They wouldnt because there were no known infections or contacts even though probability would say otherwise This cordon accomplishes that I say its limited because its such a contained are that you actually could post national guards there with the license plate lists or names of those under quarantine and make sure they dont leave that area To have a square mile area with 90 or so known actual infections and probably 400 to 500 people under quarantine is worth doing more if you ask me Everyday Cuomo reports another 20 cases and half are in that cordon I dont think it would alarm anyone if there was a bit more control around making sure the quarantined and infected stay put|1 there is a vocal group on here that is rooting for end times stuff just typical 4chan edgelord kids but it doesnt help in a delicate time when information is so fast and unverified in many of the posts ie the chinese engineered it death rate under reported etc|0 Italy on Jan 31 suspended flights to and from China Hong Kong Macau and Taiwan in a bid to prevent the spread of the deadly coronavirus The ban due to last until April 28 was the first by a European Union member The Czech government later followed suit From this site httpswwwbloombergcomnewsarticles20200210italyshopesforcloserchinatieshitbyvirusflightbanrift Seems so They acted quick nonetheless after at that time learning of 2 coronavirus cases on their land Anyway this is just a tragic situation overall|0 It would if the player is a noob and killed infected too early|0 Hanks and Wife were in Australia where they have proper Healthcare States is a disaster currently|0 Wouldnt it be nice if he had awesome hygiene and didnt have SARS on his hands|1 You know Since this isnt the first time claims about the heart and secondary alleged reinfections have come up I was thinking Given that the heart and other organ failure is routinely caused by sepsis from later stage severe pneumonia Is it possible that they are unknowingly also dealing with a drug resistant bacteria or some other type of microorganism thats going undetected I mean if they think theyre treating them with antibiotics yet they still sometimes suffer that kind of effect Given the chaos there would they even be able to tell They are destroying the bodies as quick as they can so as not to get overwhelmed hmm You mean like Influenza|0 The vegan capital of the world Indiavegetarian ftfy a tad different than vegan Also this could easily happen with any form of animal agricultural aside from maybe lab grown meat It is not a matter of IF but WHEN and when it happens it could easily be MUCH MUCH worse than this|0 An example of how fast things spread I got sick last Thursday and by Friday half my friends got sick and even more are getting sick daily |0 Why laugh or cry when you can die|0 And this was with an authoritarian response where door welding is allowed and not really protested|1 He is an amazing human and a role model He values helping people over making money and gaining power|1 This is getting longer and longer to scroll down to the comments on mobile Stay safe everyone|1 If you are friendly with any older people they might appreciate regular phone calls I read somewhere that older single men or widowers may be especially vulnerable during a crisis because they tend to have fewer social connections and thus fewer people checking to see how theyre doing|0 I think the point is to reduce foreign infection risk not to simple slow down infection locally What is better for spreading a virus than touristic events |1 Upstate New York here Things arent the best but theyre not terrible either All local businesses that service people are either closing down or only serving takeout This is of course with the exception of grocery stores and pharmacies Bread and paper towel isles of my local Market 32 and Walmart have been pretty much cleared All other food isles are in various degrees of being stocked|1 Dont agree If people find out the governments are lying they wont trust them in future|0 Whats the point of living even if I make it anyway Come me Corona Ill roll the dice|0 What I didnt even say that Do you not know how to read or too stupid to reply to the correct comment|0 How cool would it be to get a test delivered to your door that you could mail back like the DNA test kits and have an answer within say a few days Of course figuring out a way to ship it without also potentially infecting someone else may be tricky but think of how many it would keep out of emergency rooms minute clients doctors offices Make this happen everywhere |0 If youre locked in your house for weeks unable to leave would you really want to run out of toilet paper|1 Yay another layer of needless approvals|1 Radical thought what if all college was low cost and didnt put anyone into debt|0 No idea Its now 1133 and still nothing|0 While youre right about the principle youre wrong about the scale With Wuhan you get a large distribution of simptoms but authorities say 20 need to be hospitalized and 8 need ICU and 4 die So this would be as infectious as H1N1 but would strain hospitals more and it will kill 10 times more people The only reason we can offer our opinion here is the lack of information from China and the WHO As for a source 20 was out of a doctor from John Hopkins the rest I filled up using the Lancet study as a proportion of inhospital pacients This can be coroborated by the Chinese authorities saying yesterday they had to turn away all bit the worst pacients and kept only 5 Im presuming using their score to figure out who will need urgent careThis can also be coroborated by reported cases in China where families were quaranined together after the father had it then the grandma had it and died the father went on the list the mother developed simptoms then the father had fever and got over it and so on So in each family 20 need medical care and develop severe simptoms and 30 develop high fever cough diareea muscle pain fatigue and 60 dont yet show the simptoms Keep in mind this isnt the large population everyone gets infected in these families|0 Hes said some dumb things since this virus has started spreading but hes been more transparent than our mayor and has consistently called out our higher ups Im glad hes being proactive|1 it wasnt all the people risking their lives trying to show you video from inside a communist dictatorship jesus christ|0 God willing Im wrong and this is just a coincidenceIf its any consolation there was recently a paper that came out which detailed the risk factors for increased rate of mortality from viral pneumonia not necessarily this virus however It found that they were MuLBSTA Multilobular infiltrates Pneumonia in multiple lobes of the lung Lymphopenia Low white blood cell count Bacterial coinfection Smoker Either current or quit HyperTension and finally Age 60 years For each of those factors they assigned a value Values lower than 12 are low risk and scores above 12 are considered high riskAssuming your mom caught COVID19 and only had hypertension and nothing else she would score a 2 That correlates to a 1 risk of mortality 0872 to be specific In general given that 15 of cases seem to be severe I would estimate her risk of mortality to be 18 Severe cases tend to experience the Mu and Ls of MuLBSTA which would bring her up to an 11 12274 risk of mortality So 15 of 12274 brings us to a hypothetical maximum risk of 18 Id say those are damn good odds that shes gonna be fineI should also add that that same study found that Diabetes Asthma COPD Heart failure Coronary heart disease Liver disease Renal disease and Cancer all had no correlation to increased risk of mortality If that same trend is the same for COVID19 then were in luck and a lot of people who we would assume are at risk are actually pretty safe all things consideredTLDR Broad strokes I wouldnt worry too much I think your mom is probably going to be fine if she catches thisIf you want to know more I made a post a while ago talking about thishttpsnewredditcomrChinaFlucommentsezkmooclinicalfeaturespredictingmortalityriskin|0 Being woke aint easy Or in this case it actually will be|0 Was this hotel also quickly constructed in 12 weekslike some hospitals in Wuhan to help cope with the infrastructure strain|1 I wonder if they were in isolation and if their contacts have been tracked|0 Ridiculousnow Im starting to get angry with the lack of transparency Why dont they have enough tests Its as if people high up want this to spread if that is not the case then please tell us why doctors are being told no to testing Prayers for our health care professionals They must be very frustrated and concerned|0 My local mart tried to sell me five repackaged masks worth about a dollar each for 45 USD Fck you Ive been buying eggs from you for years and youre giving me a sob story about your health and jacking up prices|1 Watching US Presidential elections from over the pond it does seem that your economy is one of the biggest if not the biggest factors in voting Sitting Presidents dont generally lose if the economy is strong I totally agree with your points and Trump really must be angry behind the scenes that this is happening in election year This cant be blamed on immigration although I did read that they were considering closing the border with Mexico which seemed really odd because it wasnt South Americans bringing in the virus That idea smacked of desperation to me I also heard him blaming Democrats and their open border policiesTrumps also been promising a vaccine in an unrealistic period of time Telling the companies to just magically produce this in a couple of months I think is just a tactic Further down the line he can lie and blame it on the Pharmaceutical companies not getting the vaccine done quickly enough when hes announcing the latest death toll when really what happened was the administration didnt act quickly and decisively enough|0 And the UK youre not alone|1 No thats actually false as numerous fact check orgs have attested Not sure how the myth got started|0 Ok calm down Flora Yah the beginning of the outbreak was a mess but thats not where we are now Ive been under quarantine for the past three weeks in a 1st tier Chinese city and have been hospitalized multiple times over the years here as a foreigner with minimal Chinese skills Ill add so I do get where you are coming from You are right that hospitals here in general arent the best especially in the countryside and in some more sophisticated medical areas However once the confusion died down the authoritarian nature of the government means that they locked down supply chains hard made sure hospitals will know how to deal with this ONE SPECIFIC THING and mobilized local populations in a way that honestly I dont think you could ever see anywhere else Those crazy supply shortages arent a thing anymore Hell i think Baidu even rolled out a mini app that lets you check the government certification of your masks just a couple days ago to make sure they are coming from licensed vendors Now if you are too sick for the country side hospitals to handle they can and will cart you off to a better equipped medical center For all that the data out of China is definitely not completely accurate and there are some crazies doing weird ass shit the amount of authoritarian measures that have been put in place are honestly terrifying the fact is that the government simply cant afford people not working for so long So they are going to be doing everything they can to treat cases and stop the spread as fast as possible Its not pleasent but its effective|0 Did Sanders finally realize he is like 80 and an at risk for death if he catches Coronavirus|0 Theres very little to be done in Japan at this point other than try to slow the spread and treat those who become illThe CCP is attempting warlike actions on its own people to stop spread of the virus and still havent been successful Their regime is also more precarious and must be seen to be doing something to fight the virus The CCPs power depends the peoples belief that they have the mandate of heaven They will lie cover up crackdown in self preservationJapans government has a very firm basis Modern countries are likely working behind the scenes to prepare medical facilities and minimize panic|0 Its not just about the death rate of the disease per se If it goes unchecked through the population the 15 of people that need hospitalization or a ventilator etc will peak in numbers that overwhelm our health system Additionally we wont be able to care for those people that have any other life threatening situation that could normally be saved with medical intervention because there simply wont be enough health care workers and hospital beds available You could be a young healthy person who is not at risk for death by coronavirus but still wind up dead indirectly because you were in a car accident and there are no hospital beds available|0 I think theyre just saying dont act like it definitely will happen since we dont know for sure|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 And then Amazon banned him as well as other people price gouging|0 Yeah for sure there are definitely many systemic elements that are working against us here with the healthcare system and lack of safety nets Im not optimistic about getting to containment but it looks more possible than it did a week or two ago|1 If he has it he wont be able to hide it he just looked sick as fuck at the press conferenceWell find out in the next few days I suppose whatever he says|0 Thats a really great book I mean that in the sense that its a Great Work I read it years ago but thanks for mentioning it Might be time to read it again|1 What exactly was the USA the most prepared for again|1 Imagine if all the mild cases are considered everywhere and Trumps 1 figure is actually correct oh my god the chaos would be insaneE I am not a Trump supporter I certainly believe presidents should not be throwing out hunches on national television|0 As I understand the death is not counted|0 Translation was fine Good job|1 Im sure there are actions they could take in coordination with the local government to lessen the blow|1 They only tested people who showed symptoms This is extremely misleadingIn NY one man infected two entire households many are asymptomatic so far in Washington LifeCare 50 people have symptoms and are being tested on the cruise ship 700 people got infected out of 3500 while supposedly under quarantine|0 Thats what New York is doing They had a bad outbreak and got on it right away and CDC took almost a week to approve their new tests Governor Cuomo said that when they finally start mass testing people are going to be shocked at the numbersHe said Im telling you other states you are on your own They have given up on getting testing from the federal government because its but gonna happenMy local officials keep saying they are going to wait for more testing I called Pritzkers office and said we have run out of time to wait for the feds we must assume everyone is infected and practice AGGRESSIVE SOCIAL DISTANCING NOW My local mayor says that they are waiting for the DuPage County Health Dept to issue guidance to have a unified plan for the whole area NoWe are out of time we MUST shut down like Italy or become them For the love of God|1 Yeah guy doesnt know what hes talking about at all|1 10 days of paid leave if you come down with coronavirus and if your company employs between 50 and 500 people The 23 pay requires a test too Good luck with that|1 Where did you get this information Was it Verified Why the psychiatric dept Were they pulled out of there dept to work in the hospital as I sure people who have COVID19 dont need any physchiatic help at this point Your story does not make any sense|1 I think they connected three databases Travelling flight health care and something else I forgot So they isolated people early on and prevent spreading in first stage|1 Both papers are very interesting The first tells me that a Sauna or a Steam room are pretty safe but the normal room temperaturehumidity persistence is worrying 2 days or soThe second one kind of confirms that if you get a package by air from China you might need to worry a bit if it came really fast but normal shipping takes a couple of weeks and that is pretty safe The other takeaway is that most bactericides are pretty good against Coronaviruses|1 In this case a decrease of 70 lung capacity would be a better teacher|1 You do have to keep in mind that America for its wealth and industry has an unusually low population densityI think people overlook how much of our success comes simply from how awesome North America really is especially the temperate middle part America just got a really good slice of probably the best continent on the planet especially when you consider things like pandemic and world war but maybe even just by temperature and weather which are ultimately massive factors and determining your nations successOf course you can also look over at Japan and see what can really be done per square acre even with resource limitations and less than ideal land However in this case America is probably a better position by simply falling back on the fact its over here in North America biffered from the endless troubles of Asia in EuropeIts a pretty big advantage that people often overlook when assessing the strengths of their countries America seems like the most profitable land grab in history because I think they grabbed the most desirable land in the process without even knowing it at first I mean they knew they were killing indigenous people they just didnt realize how good and large is a land actually was In hindsight of my public education I dont think it was really the measle blankets that did most of the damage It also took me a long time to understand why South America was Latin America I mean did they all just like the language more Oh the gleeful bliss of youthful ignorance and strategic gaps in history|1 Easy delusion I know some people that believe that Covid19 is a virus created in a lab that china released at the request of the democratic party in efforts to cause mass hysteria and mistrust in the government in the US and the entire world is in on this conspiracy so that trump loses the next election|0 Not turning it into a conspiracy theory thread at all|0 His approval rating will go down when his base starts dying because they are old and unhealthy|0 Where would he be treated There is no hospital inside the Vatican Acute respiratory condition combined with his status would require ICU level care|1 I am a Semite lol|1 MAGA dude Sounds like you are a little too pro US|1 Yes Self isolation for 14 days is MANDATORY|1 they wont be able to make it appear like another type of flu if it goes like Wuhan|1 Well I guess we could just nuke the virus and wipe the country out in the process|1 Please list out where to quarantine 3000 potentially infected coronavirus passengers in the Bay Area Exactly|0 Its true that weve hit testing capacity from what I understand but theres still value to news orgs reporting on this because people need to know that the virus is spreading unseen in our communities Thats why we need to shut down everything ASAP|1 i wont be surprised if it is in fact was made by china to be a bio weapon it can explain a lotof things|0 I dont know exactly how quickly somebody can go from severe pneumonia with oxygen support to breathing comfortablly without treatment but isnt this a dramatic improvement|0 x200Bhttpswwwabcnetaunews20200305howdoyougettestedforcoronaviruscovid1912023736httpswwwabcnetaunews20200305howdoyougettestedforcoronaviruscovid1912023736This article was published on ABC news Australia confirming the testing method for Covid19Testing methods worldwide include a blood test a swab test inside your nose or in the back of your throat or a sputum mix of saliva and mucus testThe blood test format or serology method the examination of blood serum is currently not available in Australia where it is more likely the test will be a nasal swab as per the guidelines set out by the Department of Health for pathologistshttpswwwhealthgovausitesdefaultfilesdocuments202002phlnguidanceonlaboratorytestingforsarscov2thevirusthatcausescovid19pdfSwab tests are officially called RTPCR tests they compare the sample taken from your throat to a sample of the virushttpsenwikipediaorgwikiReversetranscriptionpolymerasechainreactionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiReversetranscriptionpolymerasechainreactionThe other method of testing the gold standard is the CT scan As this is a lower respiratory virus throat swaps are not as sensitive as CT scans when determining if you are inflicted with the virusThe below article outlines the comparison between the CT scan and the RTPCR tests For 888 positive CT result there were only 601 positive swab testshttpspubsrsnaorgdoi101148radiol2020200642httpspubsrsnaorgdoi101148radiol2020200642|1 Its crazy how much runescape influenzad so many lives|0 I will change names to something less misleading Thanks|1 Because clearly you are an idiot|0 RIPMale 70 yo with underlying conditions Dead in 5 days |0 Its like Chess Theres so many possibilities that you cant crunch the numbers deep enoughThe algorithm has to eventually use strategy instead of brute force Those strategies can potentially lead it in a suboptimal direction by being too conservative or too liberalYoloing your queen halfway through the game to save your pawn for example It might actually end up giving you a slight edge Something that makes it so you can win one move sooner The algorithm isnt going to explore that move deep enough It will just keep your queen and sacrifice the pawn because compared to giving up the queen for the next 30 moves it has calculated 10 million better moves And since the 31st move would mean examining 10 thousand gazillion moves it discards yoloing the queen as a solution As a human though youll do something like that and play it out based on some sort of secret intuition or stupidity Thats when you find out that in the 31st move youve actually come out aheadThe algorithms are really good though just like chess AI Researchers are just as interested in how to tweak the strategy If you sacrifice your queen and lose you still might get much closer to winning than the algorithms strategy expected|1 Sending good vibes your way Is there no law for exotic animal sellers|1 Only the most prepared|1 will work for room and board xD|1 Cuz compared to singapores law enforcement united states or any part of the rest world is simply garbage|1 Me Im home with my kids My big kid is doing school work from home right now and my toddler is loving having big sis around all day|1 Well when a company doesnt offer you much paid time off for leisure then you have to take it where you can get it Most first world countries have something like 2 months of paid vacation time People actually get to enjoy their lives and travel while they are young enough to do so|1 I doubt it the mortality rate in the elderly and unhealthy is extremely high This is just the way our system works Better to let thousands die so we can be 100 sure something works instead of just 995 The eastern countries have been far more willing to apply these therapies early and they are coincidentally all the ones who have this remotely under control|0 Did you get his license plate number Report him to health authorities|1 it does thank you uncertainty and me are mortal enemies the worst words in the english language are we need to talk but I cant right now|0 Well she was carrying a clip board|1 Hes a fake account for sure|0 I do my best httpsimgurcomfiDIK2whttpsimgurcomfiDIK2wccpfreecomhttpccpfreecom|1 Its not completely different in Sweden Human nature affect US too Thus the point is to setup the system so it incentivizes them to behave and not just grift Our politicians are mostly noncorrupt not because we elect saints but because we have their receipts All government correspondence is by default public They have to go to court if they want to make something secret|1 Having lived in Philadelphia I can tell you these are the worst dumbest most selfabsorbed humans on earth so good luck|0 They didnt call for an ambulance they called 111 The advice has only changed to NOT calling 111 recently Dont be such a dick when theyre coming here for advice Do as YOURE told and follow the rules of the sub ffs|0 this is the exact opposite of a useful reaction a person who is sick and connected to wuhan coronavirus cases can be told say at home and call us if it gets bad and the disease is at least somewhat contained then you test random unconnected people and you discover the actual prevelance in the communitythe current approach guarantees most cases will be missed since it is not possible to get them tested the disease cannot be containedtheyve decided what result they want and so theyre testing in a way to obtain it like magic because theres no valid cause and effect|0 Even when the swine flu hit in 2009 it wasnt like this Ive never seen a response like this to a virus which is concerning to me Cases have just started appearing in my state and I have surgery scheduled for March and April which several follow ups at the hospital where Im worried I will be exposed to it|0 If she had a 39 fever it was probably bacterial bronchitis Ive had that with a fever over 41 definitely needed the antibiotics and they helped I was told it often develops from what was initially a viral infection|1 Its hard to have a gun in Wuhan and the government completely controlled everything You think the us gov can do that The Crime in my area is already out of control I find it funny that you think Im overreacting for being prepared for an unpredictable situation Or would you like to tell me exactly how this will play out|1 With this disease so far we have seen other apparently healthy young people die This happens with the flu tooLooking at the mortality stats so far for folks under 1040 is a mortality rate of 02 2 out of a thousand Low risk but sucks those for those 2 and their friends and familyMany of those fall into the genetically unlucky or just unlucky categoriesThe genetically unlucky often believed may have recessive genes example that express something in immune response its on the x chromosome Women with 2 X chromosome are less likely to have the primary gene be recessive hense why the mortality rate is higher in men vs women The unlucky could include many things from exposure to environmental factors chemicals that cause mild inflammation that makes the symptoms worse or allergies to a prior sickness at same time to age discrimination overlooked at triage due to age and not treated until very severe symptoms to even not seeking treatment until severe symptoms|0 I could definitely be wrong but doesnt herd immunity require a vaccination And the high level of immunity from vaccination in a large population group increase the immunity amongst those who are not vaccinated|1 Glad to hear you are okay Ive been checking for updates on your other post and relieved you fought through this In your other post you mentioned you are a student at UW and Bellevue College Have you made contact with those schools or have any knowledge if they have been notified I know it has been a LONG time since you were on either campus and you have since recovered and a lot has changed since then remote for both campuses the rest of term but did you have to do contact tracing|1 The virus doesnt survive very long on surfaces based on info from WHO httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustersIf you are worried you can disinfect the packages too Order canned food and stuff so the insides are always sealed|0 I love the Bern|1 tips hat to proactive El Salvador Well played well played indeed|1 Well I mean it is what it is Researchers are trying to figure out just what it is|1 Riots for what What can they riot forFood medicine political unrest based off a wholly unproportionate response from central gov|0 It seems as though the number and intensity of testing correlates strongly with pandemic results Take South Korea and now Taiwan as examples intense and broad testing has limited the Covid19 mortalities Now America on the other hand has fuck all shit amounts of testing So we must reap what we sow Unfortunately the masses are the ones who will once again take the brunt of the pain instead of those at the top|0 Yes I need to get to my computer and will post sources and more information Currently have my phone|1 Well duh|1 Ok but while my entire family has a job where you are able to work from home neither me my partner or my mom are allowed yet My pregnant sister and dad were given work from home but not usIf your boss isnt taking this seriously its just come to work and be careful School closings are better than nothing but were all going to have shocked pikachu faces when it spreads and say but we closed the schools When every other fucking place is open Its very confusing here why is one software firm open one closed and one work from home Whats going on hereI feel like I cant visit my baby sister because shes safe at home self quarantining and Im at work every day like a fucking chump I cant endanger her over anything and it hurts This is good but we need to do more Seriously considering just quitting over this but I dont have the money Id last a good few months in savings but thats it And who wants to job hunt in this Were all trapped to the whim of our boss|1 Dont know whether you noticed the over night change up where the Wikipedia sourced chart was replaced with a Kudos note Then a few hours later resurrected Reason being is finding a source for both the Cased and DeathsWikipedia will update them by country and havent found another source that does the same Compounding that is its clean presentation format Zero ambiguity|1 Meat in a can Its a common item for people to buy while prepping because its shelf stable|1 I am not in the UK so I dont know the extent of opposition what is the atmosphere like|1 wow you described exactly what Im up to low key no crowds chill hope theres no interstate travel ban but at the same time Id be okay with staying put for a while|1 BIG oof I am very glad disinfectants exist lol|1 Im switching between being super productive doing business continuity plans and keeping everything running and just sort of zoning outI was texting my ex earlier about the rumoured lockdown I heard from a couple of people last night Of course he hadnt stocked up Its the first time weve really spoken since we broke up and its funny all our interpersonal drama just doesnt matter any more|1 The flu has no cure We only treat its symptomsAbout cycles you just described how the regular flu and colds work Its always a cycle you arent saying anything new You are just spreading misinformationEvery year people die from the flu Its a natural cause of death Its not a few thousand its actually hundreds of thousands of people Every year This is the reason panicking over this strain of coronavirus is ridiculous|0 This is inaccurate The virus was discovered by Chinese scientists back in April 2018 and broadcast on CCTV their national propaganda channel Their scientists even published in western publications and received some national prizes but whether they are still alive now is of course another story httpsimgurcomgalleryx5CzCMs|1 Hi Know7 I hit pay dirt on pages 4 and 5 of the second link in regards to the role of static Its one of the mechanisms by which a particle gets trapped on a fiber in a filter For the coronavirus family of particles about an eighth of a micrometer large 0125 micrometers I infer from the article that static is a particularly important trapping mechanism for that size particle So yeah its important to try to maintain static in the filter The first link listed a technical support number I think the time has finally come for me to make a phone call to find out what might happen if I rinse out an N95 mask with water or mildly soapy waterAfter reading this and thinking a bit more it might be best to just put a used mask in a paper bag give it 10 days for any virus particles to die off and only then handle the used mask by rinsing it out assuming that I can somehow get the static charge back which might be as simple as sticking it in the dryer for a few minutes Maybe theres less risk of infection that way bag first for 10 days then rinse Just my guessAs to why a wet filter is bad for some reason capillary attraction pops into my head We all intuitively understand this as wicking For example stand a roll of paper towels in a very shallow bowl of water and the paper towels will wick up all the water out of the bowl Once wet other particles can easily travel through the paper which wouldnt happen if the paper was bone dry So something about moisture dampness acts as a lubricant allowing other stuff to flow more easily Stuff such as contagion particlesYeah definitely time for me to make a phone call to 3M technical supportThanks for posting the links Know7|1 Sorry Click bait wording on my sideI live here lol|1 Thank you for sharing this I appreciate it I am a default go for the Advil person and would not have otherwise known|1 In order to get cellphone service in China one needs to provide personal identification ID standard for all Chinese adults So yay they pretty much know what everyones phone is and where they live Everythings tracked thats how they are able to so quickly locate the guy Welcome to CCP|1 So you are saying self isolate is not really self isolate Self isolate does mean quarantining the person whether its within a room or if they are lucky on a floor ie upstairs or downstairs Why would a positive test make any difference here |1 I think thats a little unfairThe Chinese government went through great measures to hide this Learning the information feels like getting in on the secret Having it hidden from someone makes them feel like its bigger and scarier than it isFiguring it out and sharing the information feels like active defiance It feels like youre doing something great Then people invalidate your fear by saying its not a big deal That invalidation creates anxiety and this feeling like youre losing your mind Why dont people get itSo you blow it up You scream it You obsess Nothing happens This makes you worry moreIt becomes a cycle of anxiety and invalidation and can drive you mad Ive been there It doesnt helpTake it easy on people|1 So true IR35 will screw me as well worrying times ahead|1 My god just imagine all the people still walking around with it They are preventing people from being tested for the most arbitrary of reasons such as not having been in a foreign country recently that has the virus ITS HERE ALREADY FFS|0 Countries will be on their own resources on worstcase and I expect most of the people will die from assault rather than the Virus Lets see what will happen in America in several Months only Vaccine can save them|0 Funny how companies didnt think people could work from home before Itll be interesting to see how they fair now knowing that they probably will be fine Less public transport will be needed|1 I saw my doctor two days ago and he told me they are all worried But I live in Sarasota county where we have a few cases|0 If being obese doesnt put you at risk when getting the flu it doesnt put you at risk if you get coronavirus Being very old and having a weak immune system put you at risk|0 not really many tenured professors are basically ununder paid and expected to basically take their salary from grants Without grants there goes a large chunk of her salary|1 Youre a chinese sympathizer with the comment history of a puppet You have no credibility|0 Examples of the pantshitting overwhelmed with fear wing of this sub being right about something Seriously give me an example|0 You underestimate the tories|0 My mom as an obese immunocompromised fiftyyearold could work all day on her feet and run mental circles around almost everyone I know She could also do handstands on a betAll these people who talk like old people fat people or chronically ill people are notyou knowjust people make my blood boil Being sick or out of shape or older doesnt mean youre not living your life and being a damn cool person|0 No unlike Western countries where announcements are focused on how to keep safe and providing information on the situation in China there have been announcements stating that those who prevent coronavirus prevention work which can mean attacking doctors or deliberating spreading the virus but really implies posting bad things about the chairman can be penalized with the death penalty|0 rangryupvoteI would burn that check in protest if it was my loved one That is worse than not sending any money as it puts a paltry cash value on their lifedeath|1 I find it ironic Fox News has been the most trustworthy news source throughout all of this|1 Based on the ever increasing restrictions on travel in Hubei Im guessing the battle there isnt going great The rest of China too is still seeing significant numbers of cases daily despite travel restrictions and lockdowns on hundreds of millions of people|0 The old and preexisting conditions meme is just a fucking meme Like all the others dismissed before itRemember the only affects asians meme I do|1 Yeah karma mate definitely that Muppet|1 Masks N95 respirators not surgical masks are unsurprisingly hugely helpful from everything Ive seen but theres a severe shortage so it comes down to whether its worth people using them to prevent virus spreading or healthcare workers using them to stay safe Most people think its better for healthcare workers to have them and most civilians will hoard them which doesnt help anyone and then use them wrong anyway|0 Not only does the average citizen not need N95 masks they have no idea how to use themThese things have to be fitted properly to work If youre like me and you arent trained youre wasting a mask that a healthcare provider needs for literally no benefit|1 Yeah someone at work said that it really only affects old people I responded oh you mean only human beings I did say it in a wry way so it didnt come off harsh but I was still able to get my point across|1 So now the federal government encourages states to hoard life saving equipment|1 And it fits in quite well with the self confessed eugenics beliefs underlying many in government What better way to eliminate the poor and the needy in our society No more pensions no more overcrowded wards lots of money saving|0 Oh yes absolutely So they wont do it Religion first|1 To be fair I dont think that people that believe in the new world order want to be right about it either|1 Keep calm carry on step over the corpses|1 Is that where the chinese copied the social credit score they are now implementing|1 httpswwwuofmhealthorghealthlibraryaa104729specThis is the way I and everyone else in the scientific community defines homeopathic medicine Exactly as I said highly diluted substances containing almost none of the active ingredient The colloidal silver you were referring to the one used by the ancient Greeks is not homeopathic It would have been hard for the Greeks to get their hands on any homeopathic medicine as the practice was only invented 200 years ago Considering that silver impregnated cloth is not homeopathic I highly doubt your doctor would have described it as such or am I misinterpreting youI know you werent using it to treat a scar I used the wrong word Im well aware of what silver impregnated cloth is for and in fact am well aware of the historical uses for medicinal silver We went over it extensively in undergrad toxicologyLook I apologize if Im coming across aggressive or condescending I promise its not my intent Im just trying to be informative|1 No what ecto88mph is saying is that countries are not getting stringent on checking Chinese flights because they do not want to appear as racist Political correctness has reached a sickening stranglehold over humanity|0 Like your boss|1 Look at their profile theyre just posting variations of the same message again and again looks like it got taken over or something httpswwwredditcomuserThoughtExperlmenthttpswwwredditcomuserThoughtExperlment|1 I havent left my house for a while now I work from home Bought a bunch of food and stuff because i was worried about what started happening in Europe where my sister lives|0 This seems pretty good until you realise alot of statistics coming from the Chinese government are coming from the Chinese governmentit is also 70000 people out of an unknown number due to the lack of testing in many infected countries the total could be in the millions|1 Hahaha|1 Every parent has a Legal right to homeschool their child I told my daughter once I see one case in my county already have cases in my state of Florida I will be removing my granddaughter from K and will be teaching her at home till this is said and home I already told her teacher and school praying no one gets sick right now my daughter is the only one having to work every day and it concerns me so much Stay safe everyone|1 Too late already spent about 500 on a festival coming up|1 I love your TDS Please go screech at the sky Send video|1 thats why they say comedy is tragedy plus time|0 It is amazing with all of the scientific and computing power that we have that we dont have some of these things worked out yet|1 Our lives are more important than your craft cocktail what|1 I understand how you feel I am committed to bringing true and good information to this fight and I promise you that there are scores of scientists working on this We are determined and happy to speak the truth and spread it|1 While I am happy for the doctors and proud I dont think its over there Either the numbers are being fudged currently and there are still many new cases daily or it will soon start spreading again and probably much worse than the first time Not trying to be dramatic it just seems as if beating this isnt going to be easy not that the quarantines were easy|1 Yeah hearing about a cancer doctor testing positive is disheartening Try to reduce your moms exposure to anyone who is regularly out and about I think herself staying more isolated is typically advice anyhowWishing her the best for her health 3|1 Im guessing my down votes came from gender studies majors and conspiracy theorists rather than engineers|0 Shhhh dont use the p word The WHO doesnt like it|0 No problem and Im glad you raised that point Ill clarify that accordingly next time I use the Afghanistan comparison and there will definitely be a next time|0 When is someone sick gonna lick his hamburgers|0 Yeah that was great How cowardly can one man be Ill hand it to the guy Trump is never boring|1 Meh the shortages are mostly over except for antivirus items like disinfectants and MASKSWas at the grocery store and some items are missing sure better brandnames sugar But still PLENTY of food nobody is going to starve lol This is getting really bipolar Source I was def concernedprepping in Jan and following this subnews like 4 hours a day I use Wuhan as a Good enough benchmark as to what is likely to happen When I saw that riots were not happening in Wuhan a tier 2 Chinese hole city then I kinda of new things would be okay elsewhere in terms of civil disorder Yes things are locked down people are getting cabin fever but people adapt albeit like a bad rubber band flexing too much in 1 direction ignoring it then snapping into the other overreacting and buying all the ammo and toilet paper off shelvestldr You only need 12001800 calories per day any less and most Americans gasp might reach a normal BMI There is so much fucking food nobody is going to starve People will be uncomfortable with homesickness fearuncertainty and joblessness though But that isnt enough reason to install landmines around your house|0 I swear to Wilson if you hurt him|0 Its everywhere here in The Netherlands But with my government still lying about how bad it is how infectious it is and is still saying that you can only be infectious when you are sick it doesnt surprise me one bit Because of this many people will become infected and many more will die|0 No thats whats happening in Italy Not enough resources so they do not attend people older than sixty or younger but with comorbidities|0 Medical experts from the University of Hong Kong warned on Monday that governments should implement draconian measures to limit the spread of the new Wuhan virus saying the number of cases is likely to be far higher than reportedMany outside governments are saying this We should be quick to label them but to consider that this may actually be the case Having worked in humanitarian affairs a bit its usual to consider accounts from doctors nurses etc who usually report higher number of casualties due to a number of reasons|1 I can believe that I had respiratory failure a few years back when I was spiked with GHB and it took a year for me to recover fully Back then I wasnt unhealthy either Id go on 8 mile runs and had a resting heart rate of 5560 Yet recovery was grueling for me|0 Usually the immune system overreaction stops when viral replication stops Also if we have an effective antiviral we can use powerful immunosuppressants in combination with the antiviral If you only have immunosuppressants the virus will kill the patient|0 You scared me|0 indeed a big save the economy BS from Block and Ranst Was it close|1 Just because the government has it set at that ratio which I can tell you from personal experience is NOT always followed doesnt make it safe I worked in dialysis as well and those ratios weremostly followed Those should be bare minimum in cases of multiple sick calls not everyday staffing goals If we spent the same amount of money on healthcare but took profits away M4A would be huge for this we could hire more staff and actually I dont know provide quality care Im sick and tired of seeing people suffer while Im being worked to death all in the name of the almighty dollar Healthcare workers are generally afraid to speak up because what happens When we quit in disgust nothing changes and the only people that feel the crunch is your former coworkers and the patients And then we look bad to future employers because we want accountability at the top|0 The value of labor was always going to drop as soon as we got machines Labor isnt as valuable an asset as it was 50 years ago thats why its easier to ship it off to third world countries where it is a bit more valued Thats why higher education and training is important clinging to dying industries and denigrating globalization is meaningless|1 I doubt Catholicism kills more than it saves through compelling people to do charity work etc on a yearly basis|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 You are not alone Thank you for your work Keep the faith|1 Pretty sure this article was found to be BS due to poor science and is suspected of being propaganda meant to take some blame off the Chinese government for taking so long to take decisive action|0 Im in the states in the Midwest and even here masks are sold out Its crazy|0 Very short sighted Ill explain but first let me say Ive been self isolated for weeks Let me try to explain I would LOVE a thousand dollars to just magically appear in my account who wouldnt But what Im trying explain is this disease has shown time and time again that being reactionary costs lives If 1000 is all you want fantastic But with average hospital stays in 2019 costing 3949 a day and an 18 day stay would cost 71082 I certainly couldnt afford that Maybe you could I am stating that I would personally give up the 1000 to help the people who will be facing medical bankruptcy from this Greedy arent I Also I know people who are going out despite warnings I know people who just spent a week in Seattle I know people who absolutely insist this is all fake I would never ever hope they get it in fact I hope no one gets it despite their foolish actions No one deserves that|1 China has hid numbers before but mistakes as the one described does happen in the medical field Coronavirus causes pneumonia the mislabeling of early cases could happen without evil conspiracies behind it|1 I absolutely understand your pointHowever I have high risk family members I had time to cancel my appointments to plan for the near future and make sure Ive done what I need to do during this time why doesnt everybody else Everybody screams support local business be kind stay calm and does the exact opposite I understand what you mean but this has been going on for weeks now its not as though this all came out last night if they had enough time to come to the conclusion of not going a 15 second call can be the change that keeps a business running One person not cancelling is one thing 80 people not cancelling is a whole other figure|1 Assuming theyre testing Also tell me if Im wrong but Im checking the RKI daily Theyre slowing down their updates|0 And the politicians well say to avoid political discussion recommend that you dont get sick if you cant afford insurance Excellent advice from people worth millions and potentially many more millions for their profiting off of sick people|1 Places that dont have icy winters and thus the same or greater rainfall still get the same effects Pretty sure the cold will kill airborne viruses tooIts pretty much entirely down to a mixture of closer proximity and lowered immune response|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 If only our own pandemic team hadnt been shut down 2 years ago we wouldve been better prepped for this|1 I wish this was me|1 this doesnt give me hope for my sons lowes to do the right thing any time soon plus ive been watching their sub and the workers say its busier than ever ive told him he should quit and we will cover him but he refuses while i understand i hate that its going to take one of us testing positive thereby giving him the ability to pull the leave trigger theyve implemented before ill get him out of therehe was out three days last week with strep and part of me wishes he was still running a fever so i could insist he stay out tomorrow too it WAS strep btw|1 This is the death rate if you read the axis labels or the source I posted|0 Full blown contagion is inevitable unless you plan to not leave your house until it all goes away several months down the line|0 It is absolutely not business as usual in the Bay Area Stores picked bare no traffic at 6pm Of course theyre part of the problem rich North Bay assholes only care about money|0 Yep Because everyone knows the Coronavirus came from Mexico and cant travel on airplanes|1 Even coronavirus didnt want to stay in Finland|0 If he really had it he should be home in quarantine Of course hes faking And that mask should be over his nose as well|0 Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die Darwin award winners Worst part is they will end up killing innocent people when they catch it and spread it|0 I am glad we are in this together|1 This doesnt make sensefor profit I guess If for US only then they can just hike the price within the hellish for profit private health care system and Americans will have no choice to get vaccinated outside USDisgusting to say the least|0 Agree as well as Airplanes Come on we recommend you not get sick either Smh|1 Its not actually true though so I dont really think it should be repeated over and over againThere are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize the Trump administration We dont need to spread misinformation to do that|0 They were tracking it and publishing it earlier and they publish mortality cause of death by county in other parts of the website As long as its not identifiable its fine to report On a national basis theres no question they should be posting that info|0 I mentioned it will overwhelm the healthcare system but thats a temporary thing Its not going to stay that way for more than a couple of months|0 Im a total layperson but I was just wondering could you take multiple antivirals at once Lopinavir and Tamiflu for example to help treat something like COVID19 and would that help to treat it better|1 That would be quite bad if you backward extrapolate that data|0 Ya We are absolutely the largest least prepared country ever What the hell has happened to this country|0 people shit on China for hiding the virus but after wuhan lock down at January 23 theres no excuse since that Trump refuse to use WHOs test kit is an epic mistake that allows the virus spread in US for at least a month and his just a flu attitude make things even worseedit just read that Chinese find out a Japanese medicine works great the only side effect is damaging reproductive capability that is huge news since it would be perfect to use on seniors|0 Combines arent used for plantingPerhaps i do not know the correct english word for the machine Google translate translates it as SeederRight thanks for letting me know Ill stop all my breeding and trialing for the year because youve decided we have too much corn and soybeansIts not that we should stop research its that cornsoy has become overused part of the diet that resulted in a lot of negative things like corn syrup being used everywhere and causing bad diet balance Im not saying we stop all corn Im saying we stop subsidizing them when we already got more than we needBecause grains and other staple crops arent readily interchangeable with vegetables in terms of storage machinery and shelf lifeCorn should never be considered staple food|0 Idk why youre getting downvoted Designating separate facilities is necessary to reduce risk to medical professionals|0 This paper submitted to Eurosurveillance by Stockholm University researcher models cases and deaths in China as fitting a surprisingly predictable quadratic growth curveThe conclusion compares the quadratic growth to previous researchhttpsbmcmedethicsbiomedcentralcomarticles101186s1291001904066 which found Chinese organ donation datahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiOrgantransplantationinChinaFalsifiedData has been falsified using a simple quadratic equation|1 Happy cake day|1 No crap Not all of us can cook at home Further some of us travel for work I cant exactly cook in my hotel room|0 Europe Which Europe Everybody just turned around We do not have enough mask here And all our European friends just close down the borders with usWe will do it But you can bet your ass that Europe will not be the same after this plague A lot of nationalism will rise up all around|0 The White House official in charge of pandemic preparedness left abruptly in 2018httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180510topwhitehouseofficialinchargeofpandemicresponseexitsabruptly He was not replaced and the team that was responsible for this work no longer exists Azar a s Pence who Trump is relying on during this mess are not qualified at all to lead an effort against a pandemic like this|0 If it really was that infectious and dangerous we would see the results on the US by nowThe US hasnt really been testing much unlike other countries A number of experts have expressed the fear that its already in the US and spreading|0 Tell me what you want Ill send it over Or perhaps live stream will be better|1 I think the new normal scientists keep talking about after this pandemic will include everyone being officially done with US dominanceAt this point it feels like were chained to them as they jump off a bridge Our close ties means our fate is linked to theirs|1 Until we pole vault our way into first place when theres no more hiding it despite having the best medical care available in the world They arent gonna blame the doctors because theyll be dead|0 How is possible that someone in his capacity as POTUS can be so remarkably foolish Even more remarkable is how he is capable to still surprise me with the depth he can go|1 Ah I get the troll now Good oneCheers man have a nice evening|1 Nice|1 Only for confirmed cases of COVID or communitymandatedcompanymandated quarantine Have COVID but dont fall into the narrow definition of people eligible for testing Tough luckOn top of that two weeks isnt long enough to recover from COVID|1 You can look at influenza like illness data from the cdc or local states|0 I just came from a medical center this morning in San Diego CaliforniaEveryone working was wearing masksA security guard was at the front opening doors and wiping down handles with alcohol wipes after people used themCalm the fuck down places are taking serious precautions|0 Do I need to avoid public places Most people can continue to go to work school and other public placesWhat is wrong with this Protect your hands when grabbing door handles touching lift buttons etc wash before eating and most people will be fine|0 China locked down 60 million people and put restrictions on anther 500600 mln Locking down 60 mln people helped to slow down uncontrollable spread but didnt prove to save lives We know how many people died in Wuhan from the virus but we have no idea how many people died there from totally preventable causes that are not related to the virus China is not providing any data on increased mortality from cardiological or any other causes while Wuhan is on lockdownWhy do you equate stopping containment efforts with giving up Our best bet is on creating an efficient system of providing emergency care to those who will actually need it without overwhelming hospitals with mildno symptoms cases We have to make sure that during the time of pandemic heart attack or csection or something completely preventable will not become a common cause of deathCan you predict how many lives will be lost if the EU or the USA plunge into the Great Depression type economic disaster And before you accuse me of looking out for superrich please remember that economic disaster will affect poor people in the dramatically worse way|0 Its been two months since the virus outbreak in China And Trump gov told us test kits are still not ready for anyone who wanna get a coronavirus test What you doing officials for the two months|0 Youre worried about but Im worried about having EXTRA medicine and food So I dont have to go out in a crowded place when its worse than they are saying Keep worrying about making money and not keeping yourself safe You and your precauyisnt my problem My kids and pets are my life and I want to keep them safe and prepared|0 We have lived through three generations of a historical golden age of relative peace and debatable prosperity at least in the western world Even stuff like 911 were relatively local events WW2 is a distant memory This will be the first truly global and indiscriminate threat these generations have faced together simultaneously So hopefully it does wake people up at least a bit because weve been asleep for like 70 years|1 Profiteering|0 Yeah they can do estimates based on rate of mutations I remember what youre talking about and the estimate was somewhere around Novemberearly December|1 thats just arguing for the sake of arguing nothing good comes from that point of view it just makes you a jackass to talk to If somebody systematically does good things their entire life then you can summarize them to be a good person Everybody has the potential to murder or steal does that make everybody evil no so stop|0 Im sorry you are in a system where your health and welfare is not being respected and best practices are not being used Hang in there Please try to speak out and advocate for yourselves and others|1 Good for you That took a lot of balls I hope more parents follow suit|1 And at the same time I keep seeing morons on Facebook sharing shit about how the media is making it seem so bad to try to scare people and Im like No they are not making it seem bad enough|0 Can you briefly describe the significance of this study to the outbreak at large|1 Dr Campbell voice Proactive|1 Thanks man means a lot|1 Well it does have the best healthcare that money can buy its just that the problem is very few Americans can afford healthcare anywhere close to that level People often dont realize it until they or a loved one gets sick though|1 SARS babies was a thingI am sure it will happen again people gotta keep themselves entertained somehow |1 The fact that the players are having to do it is a joke What are their employers doing|1 Yup She just made some powerful enemies powerful enough to affect her license and career|1 Why would they announce they would no longer tally totals thenBecause of how inaccurate the map would be as new cases appearCan see people pointing at the map and crying about it being inaccurategovernment is trying to keep us in the dark just like what happen when it went down beforeHell idiots actually believe that the coronavirus is government made as one lady at a grocery store said when people brought it up in line|0 youre going to have to source your claims All your points sound like wild speculation from someone with little knowledge of healthcare|1 Yes Practice social distancing Stay home if you can If you got out then make sure you keep distance hands sanitized coughsneeze into elbow no handshaking Do anything you can to lessen chance of being a carrier of this virus Remember you can still transmit the virus despite being asymptomatic As we have seen with other cases one person can infect many others Do you social responsibility|1 For the people at Amazon and in the grocery and retail stores Thank you We would be living in some zombie apocalypse movie if it werent for you guys and gals keeping the critical parts functioning|1 Not everyone ll share the same concern about the situation even here there are still people with highly inappropriate behaviors However acting consciously in order to protect yourself and those around you and spreading this message in their small its the best one can do in this situations Stay safe|1 Honestly this is one of those topics that deserves some discussion I still earnestly believe the benefits outweigh the downside and if anybody should worry its the authoritarian regime in Beijing but our economies are so enmeshed its gotten to the point the largest foreign student group in most American colleges are Chinese And its never spoken of as a potentially bad thing Thats the issue Sometimes globalization has costs and yet we sweep them under the rug refusing to even discuss the issues|0 Damn I thought I was being subtle|0 How does this work for people like field technicians for service providers that need to go to customers homes Is internet and TV considered essential in this case I know its technically a luxury but considering a lot of people are working from home this could be an issue|1 I walked into a local mini mart today and they had pretty much everything except handwash Plenty of pasta and bog roll but people are just flocking straight to the big shops to try and bulk buy|1 After reading through some of your commentpost history I can see where that attitude comes from at work youre the idiot on here you are barely smarter than the averageQuit acting youre not good at it|0 This is interesting Do you have any source|1 I wish I had coins to give you a Gold AwardNo masks was the one worst thing that was said at that presidential press conference It was equivalent to saying Go get sick Anyone protecting themselves is an overreacting freakThe JAMA announcement that masks were only to be worn by medical personnel was elitist The supply chains for the two customers hospitals vs general public are completely separate in any case|0 Hoping they test symptoms 100 that return negative for flu|0 This is what I love about all my friend of Facebook sharing the just wash your hands Memes Of course I wash my hands I dont allow shoes to be worn in my house either Please enlighten me on how that will help when you and your groceries are being coughed and sneezed on by the cashier at Costco during your panicbuying trip|1 The 80 of mild cases are people that were tested and confirmed to have the virus but only experienced mild symptoms The vast majority of asymptomatic cases would never be tested if they caught it from an unknown source But Im sure some very mild or asymptomatic were indeed tested solely because they were in contact with a known infect source|1 Pretty sure my company will just see this as way to replace everyone with new employees at base pay|1 I am absolutely certain that some trumpist will go around supermarkets licking shelves and door knobs just to prove that its all a hoax|1 we want masks and mask wearing to be stated and required in publicWhere are they going to get them The CDC and State health departments HAVE been telling people to stay home|1 Stop voting for the lesser evil this is exactly where we are as a resultI thought the current administration got voted in to drain the swamp Stop voting for sound bytes|0 Wow you really lucked out Here I am having infected colleagues spitting straight into my asshole|1 Nah as long as they keep and support wet markets they dont deserve to be called decent Second time in 20 years they unleash something there I know its not 100 confirmed but coronaviruses come from animals and theyll eat you too if you dont move long enough there it seems|1 I understand the guy is an idiot but damn He has the most sofisticated military and intelligence machine ever created in the history of mankind at his exclusive disposal Was not too hard to get a simple little forecast|1 Lets face it In a few weeks Asia is probably going to be the safest place in the world They actually took care of the virus effectively and we can see it going away|1 I dont think the word just should be used before that 06 That is with correct hospital care due to sensible hygiene not causing the hospital to get overwhelmed in addition to sensible testing That is also in a country with modern well equipped hospitals If this continues to spread and around 20 of the world eventually caught it that would still kill off around 10M people with a 06 CFR This also does not account for deaths from hospitals being overwhelmed and this would happen if the outbreaks are not delayed|1 Yup exactly Notice how they had to stop all their bullshit hunter biden subpoenas even ron Johnson couldnt with a straight face in the middle of an actual disaster keep the lie goingThis is going to fundamentally change how ALL of america looks at trump and republicans and sees what this antifact style of government gets us which is dead family members Buckle up everyone|0 I thought of the same thing My only hesitation is if they would actually test for the virus or just send you home with antibiotics|0 I was kinda half joking I dont want anyone to dox themselves It would be interesting if you put it up for the public to see Maybe even help someone that was in the same place as you at the same time They might have elderly people living with them It would only help I think But there are really asshole people out there that dont realize anyone that gets this it is not their fault Humans like to blame other humans|1 Roosevelt Commons isnt a dorm Its essentially a WeWork that the university manages Ive never heard of students using it just companiesThe nearest dorms are several blocks away|0 Shit like this is why testing is so important Refusing to test people is going to be looked back on as one of the biggest mistakes we made handling this|0 b The ostensible reason for doing this sort of research was to prepare for pandemics caused by crossspecies transmission of viruses such as the SARS and MERS eventsc This study created a hybrid from the SARSCoV virus and the bat coronavirus called SHC014 where the infamous spikeprotein came from This spike allows this virus to attach to respiratory epithelium much more aggressively and contributes to it virulence Here is on page 2 from the horses mouth To examine emergence potential of circulating CoVs we built a chimeric virus that encodes a novel zoonotic spike protein in the context of a viable CoV backbone See page 2d This hybrid virus is called a chimera Here is the definition of a chimera An organism organ or part consisting of two or more tissues of different genetic composition produced as a result of organ transplant grafting or genetic engineering In this case we have genetic engineering where genetic material is combined from two different viruses to see if the combination is worse than the originals As you will see the final result IS worsee Using this chimera in mice this is called in vivo experimentation or use of live animals in vitro means experimentation in a petri dish and not on live animals they were able to demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis See page 1 of the paper This means that this genetically engineered virus caused significant damage to mouse lung tissuef They attempted to neutralize this virus with both vaccines and monoclonal antibodies but both failed to do so due to the addition of this spike protein See page 1g Importantly based on these findings we synthetically rederived an infectious full length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo This means that this synthetic virus was able to replicate itself with great vigor both in a petri dish and in mice See bottom of pg 1 and top of pg 2h Back to the attempt to neutralize this chimera bottom of pg 3 vaccine failure and augmented immune pathology in aged animals indicated a possibility for harm due to vaccination Pg 4 Perhaps most importantly DIV vaccination resulted in robust immune pathology and eosinophilia Together these results confirm DIV vaccine failure and illustrated augmented disease for the aged vaccinated group So this is where my biggest fear comes in Several companies along with the US government are in a race to develop a vaccine against this virus If they are not careful in testing these adequately we may end up causing more harm with the vaccine than benefit side note there is some growing evidence from China that those who get the virus a second time within a short time are at higher risk of dying presumably due to immune hyperstimulation ie cytokine storm This may be the mechanism by which a vaccine enhances the immune system to a point where it goes into overdrive when the actual virus hitsi Page 5 talks about the starting materials for these hybrid viruses but does not prove that they yet exist What DOES exist is this chimera that was created in the lab Coupled with previous identification of pathogenic CoV backbones the results suggest that the starting materials required for SARSlike emergent strains are currently circulating in animal reservoirs|1 Dude i spent 70 on canned goods came home to surprise the wife and then we argued because apparently I am freaking out which i am not just wanted to prepare incase and because i didnt include her in the loop I was just trying to be helpful lmao|1 Have you been living under a rock We havent been any kind of leader for the past 4 years We are the laughing stock of the world Anyone who has been following this virus since December has known this is exactly what would happen in the US|1 nice|1 With folks going out and buying guns and ammo Now would be a very stupid time to try to rob someone|0 I know Im generalising should of left a disclaimer if we cant make some discussion but the deniersgov believers are generally really younger and a lot of them are left leaning party supportersWheres LabourLib DemsGreens demanding for protection of people in the control in light of this situation and baring the factstruth Nowhere Caring more about the climate currently whilst were walking into the fire of this virus Then normalising these deaths as if its acceptable or not preventable I fear the moment a Royal MP or high profile person contracts it Just waitI wish not to politicalise it because this beyond political lines but we have a benign government and Parliament looking inwards Sorry |1 If he said it will go away eventually it would imply he knows the virus itself is real and not a hoax So what youre saying is pretty stupid|1 Yes Im sorry to hear of your situation I hope you are well and safeHowever all this just goes to showcase to everyone that even if you your doctor and your mom think you are perfectly fine and healthy it might not be worth shit Doctors are not routinely doing extensive studies on young people without some specific symptoms and this is because its cheaper to assume most people are perfectly fine and healthy like they areAlso people talking about lethality in general Who cares whether its 1 5 or 10 Can you afford to end up in the 1 with your 1 life Dead dont care what kind of percentage they end up in they are dead after all So instead of worrying of the percentages everyone should just worry about making it through to find out the final score|1 Peer review takes months Competitive research sows doubt Reed Elsevier has a near total lock on this market A call from a government official can kill a story The pre pub servers are the fastest way to share scientific research where speed is paramount|0 I havent a clue how to answer your question I just wanted to say congratulations and Im proud of you|1 Better way too fucking late than never|1 Thank you ujjeafe or the excellent responseShuhan|1 Alright MikePlease leave our meetup n go get some hummus1|1 Useless|0 Best story also Happy cake day|1 But there is plenty sufficient data about incubation time spreading disease asymptomatically and so on to have more than serious reason to test this man ASAP|0 Do we have a list of Redditors who have contacts on Ground ZeroCredible or not they could just ask their friends what the screaming was all about and if it happened|1 China already saying the US is responsible for the virus Once the US has 1000 of cases China will brainwash the populace with the event timeline and make it same like the 1st cases where in the US|1 Thanks for the silver kind anon|1 Moms can have the relief that they did not transmit the virus to their children but being isolated from your newborn I cant imagine how that feels|0 Ok i decide to randomly click this subreddit and this is huge if true can anyone confirm|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Right Some of us actually have hobbies whats with the judging about what we buy Fuck off thats our business|0 Riddled like Gruyre cheese|1 He cooperates closely with China which suppresses the freedom of religion immensely The setup of Xinjiang concentration camps and the destruction of churchs are examples of what China does in recent years Do you still think he is a good man|1 Thats a train wreck waiting to happen|0 They should announce immediately that any parents who wish to homeschool can withdraw their kids with no penalty effective immediatelyThis would at least make the classes smaller|1 The more people are aware and know what needs to do the better Panic is the last thing we all need|0 error number one when you stockpile you dont brag about it you do it and you keep quiet when the shit hit the fan who do you think theyll go too if theyre in need oh i cant find N95 mask at the market theyre sold out everywhere hey midnightblueyes has a stock at home hell share some|1 I know we are and I believe very strongly that we will get through this|1 On Amazon look at inspection gloves and glove liners These are thin cotton gloves that can be used under nitrilevinyllatexwhatever gloves to prevent the development of glove dermatitis and also be used for sleeping with moisturizer to repair the damage that constant washing and hand sanitizer use can do to skin|1 I know Actually the first death was on Jan 9th so thats a little bit more than five weeks ago from today not two months But still the fact that this doctor has been going through approvals for more than three weeks and only finally through media was able to be heard still makes me mad The doctor said during SARS in 2003 the autopsy was carried out more than ten days after the deaths occurred so this time the response was even more slowly than SARS I was shocked to read this report because I always assumed that there must be someone working on the autopsy from the start although I didnt know about the details It turns out that nobody is doing this at all not because of any technical issues but because of being stuck in administrative procedures I guess this is the curse of being a doctor or scientist in China You can not scream at the authorities otherwise you will be totally silenced|0 Inaccurate graph We dont have the actual number of infections to determine the death rate for the Coronavirus Not even close|0 My coworkers daughter is a cardiologist in a hospital NYC Shes told us its already crazy and hospitals are close to capacity from people with major flu like symptoms Many nurses and doctors dont even have proper safety equipment and quite a few of their nurses have flu like symptoms and havent been able to work They arent able to get the CDC to test patients unless they personally have a travel history to a heavily infected country For example a man could have a sister that came back from Italy but since he didnt go to Italy they wont test him and just treat it like a flu|1 I bought things about 10 days ago Leaving toilet paper for others and just got about 3 weeks food for the family Pulled my kids from school on WedI feel exactly the sameShow anyone who thinks this isnt going to be a huge humanitarian crisis Dr Peter Attia 4 part QA series front he 11th 25ish minshttpsyoutubeiyu7wIsS6o|0 Good on you dude We are only as strong as our weakest link|1 This is what worries me most is I have allergies and from what i hear its hard to tell the difference between severe allergies and this Ive asked myself a few times if I caught it|0 Also a friend of mine works in a prison that specially for female prisoners that have heroin addictions its a prison plus rehab centerA workmate of her hid the fact that his wife just came back from Wuhan and having a fever Not long ago his wife was tested positive My friend got so fucking scared by it since she used to see that guy a lot in her office|0 Thats correct but I feel like youre being pedantic Huge exponential growth is indeed happening even though it isnt what is causing these numbers to spike today|1 Reminder that this is for the lay population that have not been prepping for this We know because we have been following this very closelyToday coworkers are actually concerned and talking about covid 19 Pretty big change over the course of a week|1 And again despite your refusal to read many countries are held accountable for their actions when they ask to be part of the global community The same manner should happen here and the CCP should pay for their horrid crimes and the lives lost around the globe due to them|0 More about the processes of cooking which are almost mechanized The food production has to be uniform rain or shine Ingredients are not local nor subject to local conditions Food prep is taken seriously and sanitized as well Or am I just bonkers|1 Does this mean when they get the flu or a cold their immune system wont know how to fight that|0 This is how they are all the time I could tell you so many stories having worked for them They do not care about their employees at all Were all means to an end|0 Yes it changes everything declaring a pandemic will trigger a gorillion insurance clauses|1 Why make air planes safer more people die from the flu|0 Definitely give the ambulance guys a heads up If you go to the hospital leave him outside dont touch anything and keep your distance from others The doctors and nurses will appreciate your consideration for others|1 We in the mid US have been told through the real news masks are strickly for the sick That healthy people dont need them and are wasting them I think weve been lied to|0 Hopefully the whole state follows FuckHopefully the whole country follows|1 Yeah but the radius for coughing and sneezing is like 6 feet we shouldnt be near each other not just close|1 Ah I see the logical fallacies making an appearance Continue on It amuses me|1 Yo whoevers playing plague inc dont pop the cure bubbles thanks|1 because there are no concentration camps you can call them assimilation camps for worst if you really dislike the name reeducation center theres no gas room there or human soap on saleto people that have deep faith in extreme religions that believes holy war is their destiny if you have better ideas then teach people how to adapt the modern society and actual skills that they could rely on to earn money you are welcome to make suggestionsas for surveillance its also controversy in China so I wont expand that topic you can call it dystopia if you like I have no intention to argue with you on this my personal view is that it is too early to make a judgement yet since the benefit it brought is undeniable|0 One of the reasons they say that masks dont work is People would use them improperlyThen inform the public on how to use them properly instead of letting people be fully exposed to the virusHowever the real reason behind saying masks dont work is to save them for medical staff The thing is lying to your population as a government will make people distrust the government|0 was that the best Rick Morty ever Snake jazz it makes me lol every time I think about it ssssssssss|1 If testing were the key the USA would have the same number of cases as Australia Far more people fly in and out of the USA We have several of the busiest airports in the world The disease is pandemic which means it cant be contained by quarantine Avoid sick people stay home avoid crowds|0 Is this a joke At this time I genuinely cant tell Im very interested in what the underlying conditions actually are|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Were just talking about fentanyl All it drying up would do is make it easier for addicts to safely dose their drugs and be able to avoid ODs better Heroin comes from poppy plants which are easily grown anywhere there isnt much enforcement so therell be plenty of that along with prescription opiates Youre arguing against something that wasnt even said lmao|0 I signed up Quick and easy|1 The preponderance if not all is due to the outbreak in the nursing home which is not surprising and not a good metric to use in comparison to the general population httpsacademicoupcomcidarticle367870318878 An infection in a 37bed unit of a 5ward nursing home in Honolulu Hawaii that affected 28 of exposed residents even though 92 of residents had received influenza vaccine prior to the outbreak Moreover 6 55 of 11 infected residents died of their illness This is old news Viruses and infections spread like wildfire in nursing homes And vaccines are not 100 effective for anyoneWithout testing everyone particularly those without severe symptoms there is no way to know the true mortality rate in fact it significantly increases the survival rate Of those cv deaths none were children however at least 17 children in your state have already died of flu this season|0 Hopefully no novel monkey virus|1 Thanks|1 Evolution is a difficult thing to explain|0 Exactly Posting facts is important even if they are scary I posted an article quoting an epidemiologist at Harvard University who stated that he expects 70 of the worlds population to end up infected with Coronavirus and it was removedAn epidemiologist at Harvard is a better source than most of what is posted here|0 Fuck that dude Read his son story article justifying his hardships and actions Scumbag delusional piece of shit|0 What I mean is the thing he did was extremely normal you see some shit at work you start to get concern you share this in a group chat and say hey guys we need to a bit careful Then suddenly you are arrested with seven other doctors they put you on the news and said you guys were spreading rumorsWhy doing such a normal thing make you a hero Because this country is abnormal|0 Yay Chinese |1 As someone pointed out the other day just because the virus can linger or survive on surfaces or in the air for a prolonged amount of time does not determine whether or not it would remain potent enough to actually infect someone I believe that data has not been examined or determined yet|1 Masks are absolutely effective Not 100 but effective|1 This is great|1 Queens NYC Saw a bit of panic buying yesterday at the supermarket but we are doing okay Mom and I hunkered down with not much more than our usual supplies except for some extra TP 2 bottles of 70 sanitizer I bought last year for a school job I had and her refilled prescriptions We cooked for a few days in advance and froze some Our Rite Aid seems okay TP and PT gone But you know what no one is buying and they should have OTC meds like Mucinex Day and NyQuil decongestants and allergy meds etc Those are in plentiful supply and those are the actual treatments for mild cases Its wild We already have those at the house so no need to buy more Our 711 local bodegas and our Chinese supermarket are all doing okayThe panic buying looks to me like suburban hysteria but I am probably wrong Its just not too crazy where I live|0 Thank you so much for giving me and indepth answer Stay safe out there |1 I said this earlier I see mods deleting posts with factual content but letting political garbage through Look at lots of the top comments They are political bashing I am here for solid facts and discussion Reddit is all politics now Facts get tossed out|1 This is super interesting and Id like to hear more about it|1 As a Swede with immigrant background who has traveled extensively and lived abroad so I have some perspective I can tell you that theres a lot of great things about Sweden But theres also this underlying sense of hubris and arrogance Perhaps because weve been quite progressive in certain issues like feminism environmentalism and gay marriage people feel that we are socially ahead of the rest of the world and can look down on them Or at the very least be different from them and not stopping to think Hey why are we so special this time Why are we right over other countriesThis crisis has highlighted it to me in a way But Im most aware of this when it comes to our school system I have younger siblings and cousins so I hear their stories from school and am very critical|1 If you are having symptoms you should treat yourself as positive You dont need a test it doesnt change anythingIf your symptoms get worse to the point of requiring hospitalization they will test to confirm that they are treating you correctly|1 Guess Ill die|0 Corrupted Blood incidentThe Corrupted Blood incident was a virtual pandemic in the MMORPG World of Warcraft which began on September 13 2005 and lasted for one week The epidemic began with the introduction of the new raid ZulGurub and its end boss Hakkar the Soulflayer When confronted and attacked Hakkar would cast a hit pointdraining and highly contagious debuff spell called Corrupted Blood on playersThe spell intended to last only seconds and function only within the new area of ZulGurub soon spread across the virtual world by way of an oversight that allowed pets and minions to take the affliction out of its intended confines PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Well theres a whole political spectrum right now thats playing chicken with the coronavirus in pitiful attempt to appear tough and to cast their opponents as weak Theyre the caricature of a weak mans idea of a strong man|0 It seems to be climbing quicklyIm sure it will continue to do so|1 This is almost certainly it Troop and readiness levels in Japan and Korea will be discussed as well as things the NorKos are less interested in|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The sub has been censored since you could post text Its now just awash with nonsense|0 Theres the quarantine act Be nice if it was actually used for times like this httpslawsloisjusticegccaengactsQ11FullTexthtml|1 Nice link have to keep an eye on thisI believe its out and spreading now in the UK|1 Looks like theyre also closing nonessential public places and establishments or was that already the case|1 If it were up to me it would take a long long time to forgive China for this|1 I support draconian China like moves to stop the spread And yes no rent or mortgage that cost would simply be absorbed for one month or a no interest payment plan ordered Utilities payments would have to be waived likely by executive order or added into payment plans for the rest of the year As only necessary personnel would be working and housing payments could be suspended then for one month a low cost nutrition program could be established quickly using existing commodity stockpiles and distributed especially when you consider that vendoring of housing payments and directtoHUD payments would be frozen for that month Draconian absolutely As I claim no religion that couldnt possibly matter any less to me|0 Keep in mind that rcoronavirus is basically disaster porn They love it when they see the numbers increasing The situation is bad but maybe not as bad as that sub makes it seem There was a post there a week or two ago that said that by now there would be over a million infected and theres notEveryone over there thinks they are an expert|0 yeah i saw that too WTF CDC get some intern to do it|0 The treatment options will be antivirals that have their own issues Im curious wether those taking Travada a drug to help you keep from contracting HIV would work as a preventative but it should honestly only be used for at risk groups if something like that does work The entire world shouldnt be taking antivirals on a daily basis As weve seen with antibiotic resistant bacteria organisms can adapt and viruses can mutate Find a preventative treatment for at risk patients while we develop herd immunity overall or a vaccine can be developed If it works like other viruses most the children exposed now will have a built in resistance as they age Unless it goes the herpes chicken pox route|1 There is a lot of wrong with how thanos approached the problem actually|0 Thats the thing They know they cant buy the company outright as it is not public and not all of the IP concerning this vaccine will be with the company theyre working in conjunction with a statefederal research institute as so often in Germany which will hold some of the IPWhat does the US do Trying to bribe the researchers to come over with large amount of cash|0 No Because there is a 50 chance they are wearing it bc they are sick|0 This as horrible as its gonna sound is probably the best thing to happen The reason I say this is cuz he might take this more seriously If it hits home then u know the ball will really start rolling here Hope she is ok long term|1 In China 3200 out of 13 billion people died Thata death rate of 00002 or two ten thousandths of a percent Most of them were older folks many with preexisting conditions Its not a top 30 cause of death in China where the epidemic was and is quite bad Even if theyre lying by a factor of 100 then its still a death rate of 2 one hundredths of a percent Its not awfully worrying You may not take comfort in numbers but you may The real risk to you personally and to everyone in your family is quite low|0 A 23 year old professional Iranian soccer player died from it two days ago Not famous in most places but theyre just as vulnerable Maybe more so since they travel so much httpenglishalarabiyanetencoronavirus20200227YoungfemaleIranianfutsalplayerdiesofcoronavirusinQomRoknahtmlhttpenglishalarabiyanetencoronavirus20200227YoungfemaleIranianfutsalplayerdiesofcoronavirusinQomRoknahtml|0 I dont Heres how I heard it a guy I was talking to said that he has a friend who works in the Pentagon who knows that it will go down on Monday Thats like a textbook rumor so take it with a grain of salt|1 Hi newspapers here started to do some prediction and before March ends we will be at 90 000 cases It should also be roughly at the same time that has the peak of new cases the larger number of cases detected per day after that they should start testing more accurately and numbers will still grow but not as esponentially I am just reporting what I read hoping for the best I think no one will be able to lift quarantine before the year ends just a vaccine could help us about that We will have for sure 200 000 cases AT LEAST if everything will go super smooth but i think we ll double that if we start counting cases with no symptoms or mild ones|1 Under the constitutioncharter a Canadian cant be denied entry back into the countryNot sure if that extends to permanent residents|1 I sure can|1 I think maybe it was much worse much sooner than anyone in power realized Id like to see some timeline of when weve been told our government officially knew about it and how it was run up the chain of command so we can see whos failed and wherewhenMeanwhile Weve really got to get our shit together We are not even close to looking Great again as to how this has evolved and has been handled|0 Ok so following your thought process to its logical conclusion Youre saying that governments around the world want their citizens to die|0 Of course its the DNA itself rather than the socially constructed concept of race But the latter is correlated with quite a few relevant parts of DNA lactose intolerance hypertension sicklecell anemia just a few examples that have significantly different prevalence among different races as perceived by US culture in the sense that racial demarcations are drawn quite differently in different cultures though certain commonalities are almost universal|1 Youre so intelligent and correct bro have an updoot|1 Thank you its the ones unlike you Im worried about They dont care or even think for that matter|0 This is absolutely not happening in nyc school Disinfecting twice a week Nope all lies|1 thanks this is good stuff can you clarify or expand about how treatment differs between a COVID19 patient and any other patient with the same or similar symptoms are there specific drugs that one but not the other should or should not receive i ask because i was under the impression that the treatment for any of these infections was basically the same|1 Well fuck|0 You know why Because God emperor without clothes said so And faux news said so Fuck these idiots Risking so many lives|0 Theres no seasonal vaccine for it nobody has immunity it spreads very easily and has been averaging a higher death rate than fluespecially among the elderly and those with certain health issues And now in countries that had not become serious quickly enough in their efforts to slow the spread we are starting to see hospitals having to choose who to save As I understand it Ebola isnt as contagious and is actually too deadly to spread as quickly people die before they can give it to as many people But someone can correct me if wrong on that|0 Let me enlight you who Twedros Adanhom the Director general is In case you dont know he was the foreign minister of a dictatorial government for 26 years before getting to the post of WHO DG I have no idea how he got qualified to that post His only expertise is how to be a smoothtalker for Western governments and be able to provide an alibi for a repressive government that took the rights away from people while murdering others because of ethnicities with impunity Ask any native from his country who doesnt come from the Tigray ethnicity only 6 of the total population btw who Tewdros Adanhom is They will tell you gladly|0 To quote what Im old so fuck me|0 I go to a university and I get scared everytime I see someone coughing Its frustrating bc they dont even cover their mouths and I would look crazy if I start wearing masks|0 why is because Italy banned flights from China but ther other didnt so people could enter the country from there with a simple stop in europe or the rest of the world|0 This year the economy will totally collapseI bet on a corona beer that it wont It didnt collapse in many years and it will not collapse this year|0 If people outseas dont have a fever and obey quarantine rules China wont block them from entering Testing and treatment costs for foreigners are as free as for Chinese|1 You seem very bad at readingThe other poster is saying that if it causes pneumonia thats neither a death nor a good scenario and pneumonia causes permanent lung damage in some cases Millions of sick people will overtax any health system and result in deathslifelong injuries that would otherwise be preventedWe are capable of seeing the nuance between everyone is gonna die11 and everything is fine citizenThe question is why arent you|0 Jokes on them They may have been infected and not even know it|0 Im still making jokes out of fear My boyfriend has cancer and could die if he gets it|0 Im here with you Good to know I am not alone|1 Now I wish I wasnt 600 miles from my fun car|1 Theres a Korean ballet dancer escaped during his quarantine period and visited Japan You might want to rely on those apps but the truth is unless you take brutal methods like China theres no way to put 100 of people in self quarantien To be clear I dont agree with welding the door of course but at least thats effective if you put priority on complete quarantine|1 hint it isntbut the showing the whole room thing is definitely real|1 I think this is a really interesting question How do we get over the hump so to speak At some point presumably were going to reach a critical mass of people who can safely return to normal functions that society requires My understanding is that we dont have the full picture of what postexposure immunity looks like or for how long it lasts we would need time to observe that obviously|1 You dont need to be an expert to work out their strategy was moronic Average redditors on this sub got it weeks ago|0 The situation in Italy is scary I had plans to go to Rome this week but fortunately was able to cancel I believe that they will get the spread of the virus under control but the damage to the local economy will be grave|0 Great food in India thou even thou eating it there might kill you|0 LMAO Fuck you dude Thats someones grandparents|1 Yeah but weve got a trident defence system|1 Oh if youre an engineer youve probably had countries meetings with your companys leadership rightWhat do you talk about How great your decisions will be Or trying to reassure stupid fears from different stakeholders until you dumb down the product to a point you feel ashamed to be associated withWell thats what happens in politics there was a good example at the beginning of Contagion the movie When scientists come up with say a 10steps logical points Politics wont look at them and say Yes lets do it Theyll discuss every point and their effects on their reelection And end up screwing everything|0 My pleasure Please post them everywhereno attribution needed Tweet it at your local paper and health agencies I am|1 SARS was uniquely bad in that it took months sometimes for people to die This virus takes longer than we would like but its not like SARS Average entry to the ICU after symptoms begin is 67 days if you are going to the ICU which most dont and average time of death following entry to ICU is 23 days if you are going to die which most dont Some patients end up on life support for a while but not like how it was with SARS where people would be having severe recurrent symptoms for weeks upon weeks upon weeks until they eventually diedIf Im not mistaken we still have no slightest clue what is the actual status of those who are considered recovered eg how many of them have left with permanent lung damage and will have disabilities for life because of reduced lung capacity So those people with damaged lungs may die just as slowly as those slow cases with SARS we just have no idea yet as too little time has actually passed from the beginning of this SARS 20|0 Im in vegas too I expected us to be one of the first hard hit cities considering the millions of unique tourists here weekly You cited 2 cases Ive read 4 Simple math tells us there is no way a city that has had 10s of millions of people from around the globe in the past month only has 2 or 4 cases The casinos or tourism groups are lining someones pockets to squeeze every nickle out of tourists until the lies can no longer be spoken It is sad and scary|0 Because politics I blame Facebook and Twitter for all the misinformation If the world bans these two groups people will actually start to pay attention to the news|0 Hes not going to meet his maker These people dont believe in anything except money anyway The reason might be to fuel a presidental run Coronavirus is going to get worse and with the economy going to pieces Trump is guaranteed to lose the 2020 election even running against Biden the only chance the Republicans have is to not run Trump in 2020 Pence is probably already scheming on how he can run|0 Well put we have had plenty of warning|0 I did add with all due respect which I meant in all seriousness I was simply being honest about my reaction I do focus on health news so am very aware of antibiotic resistance and how antimicrobial products are contributing to this dire problem It is surprising to realize this issue is not on a the radar for many people I am very sorry if I caused offense The following is a very informative article that also explains how these products are shown to be hormone disruptors in people and in the environment when they go down the drainhttpswwwfastcompanycom3068702antimicrobialproductsaretheworst|0 Is it just a matter if time before we all just catch it My husband works in a grocery store in Kirkland He acts like the biggest baby for nya common cold if he and I have to quarantine together for 2 weeks jfc|1 lower number|0 Anybody who thought it only kills the elderly was fooling themselves No official statement ever said that Just because theyre at higher risk doesnt mean there is no risk for the young and healthy|0 Thank you for your post And for the record you do not sound poor me at all you sound angry at a bunch of stupid people being complete asshats And you addressed them with more eloquence than i would have for sureThis is a horrifying situation Im so sorry this is happening|0 Thing is most college students arent that worried because to us on a personal level its just a normal flu But more people my age need to consider the dangers of spreading it our parentsgrandparents are at a higher risk than us and Im more scared of spreading the virus than Im scared of its effects on me|0 Maybe cuz its super cheap now|1 Theyre all heros|1 No hugs|1 Just keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night A poll taken a couple days agohttpmaristpollmaristeduwpcontentuploads202003NPRPBSNewsHourMaristPollUSANOSandTables2003151338pdfpage3 says 85 of Republicans approve of the way Trump is handling the coronavirus pandemicAnd his overall approval rating has barely changed from the 40 of Americans whove always supported him Its currently at 43Republicans Trump supporters are completely blind to any of his faults Not only did Trump probably correctly say I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldnt lose any votersBut his lawyers actually have argued if he did it as President he couldnt be prosecutedhttpswwwtheguardiancomusnews2019oct23donaldtrumpimmuneshootfifthavenuemurderIs this what Republicans have meant all these years when they say then want the small government Unrestricted power in the hands of one man|1 If the women cant find you safe they should at least be able to find you sorry|0 Its an interesting situation The virus has mild to no symptoms whilst being infectious The symptoms get pretty bad quite late into the infectionThis means a lot of people will commute because they dont want to phone in sick to work due to having a bit of a cold|0 You sound like an American Boris Johnson Since when was America supposed to be the best at solving problems And what do you even mean by best medical system|1 Thankfully it seems they backtracked on that decision and now the government is asking them to stay at home|1 Hell yes I wanna graduate in Varrock|0 Money and fame has its perks They also travel and greet people after games Testing players is wise to figure out how bad community spread is I dont agree they should be a priority but any tests going out at this point is good news|1 Yeah and so Weve seen again and again how inept they areI mean Im sure that the NG was a success at some point in the 19th century and early 20th centuryin the form of its predecessor state militias when it was designed to genocide native Americans catch runaway slaves and mow down striking miners and factory workers but now Remember Katrina|1 I read steroids make covid worse so I dont think you have it Probably seasonal allergies My son has it real bad right now|0 Fuck these people Fuck them right in the dick holes|0 Fuck Xi Jinping and the fucking CCP|0 Im sad that this has to be brought up at all but at the same time Im glad to see that people havent lost their humanity I was actually downvoted earlier for expressing my concern for my elderly parents and making a point of how inconsiderate and selfish it is to go around saying oh its okay it only kills this and that you should be fine if youre young and healthyMy 57yearold mom has diabetes one properly functioning lung an autoimmune disease and who knows what else My 54yearold dad is on medication for heart and blood pressure related complications My 24yearold brother has asthmaAll of them belong in at least one or two risk groups and Im supposed to just sit here and feel at ease when people tell me it only affects the sick and elderly People need to think before they speak|0 Trump has tried to cut CDC fundinghttpswwwredditcomrKeepTrackcommentsfge2mytrumpsbotchedcoronavirusresponsehasbeen3 every year since taking office FY 2018 Trumps budget cut 1209 billion 168 from the CDC FY 2019 1360 billion 194 cut FY 2020 7505 million 103 cut FY 2021 6932 million 9 cutNote that Trumps FY 2021 budget was released in the middle of the coronavirus outbreak He and his administration still defend this cut Luckily Congress was able to mitigate some of Trumps more extreme cuts to the CDC budget However Trumps FY 2019 budget proposed cuts to the CDCs Public Health Preparedness and Response PHPR programs that were accepted by Congress setting a trend of lower funding for the next two years This funding reduction was approved by the Republicancontrolled House and Senate just before the 2018 midterm elections PHPRs budget went from 1395 billion to 800 million and never recovered Congress has not approved funding over 8552 million since FY 2018|0 Action is being taken finally This week was very heartening in that regard Lets just hope we start pulling together|1 Well actually Matteo Renzi was the prime minister some years ago Now hes just the leader of a tiny political party with less than 4 of approval|1 I Googled for you httpswwwreuterscomarticleusherbalifeprobeftcidUSKCN0ZV1F7Seems some were unhappy with the sketchy business model but the feds do not call it a pyramid scheme and neither should you|0 As a former retail worker curbside shopping is the way to go If you saw how filthy these stores were behind the scenes most of you would never step foot into another retail establishment again You would never believe how unhygienic most people are I saw a lot of customers who were down right filth mongers lolMy particular chain store like most big box stores was always understaffed because managenent was too cheap to pay people to work Customers would puke shit and piss in the aisles and it would take us hours before one of us found the time to clean it up because we were too short staffed to stop helping customers and attend to it When we would close the store at night and tidy up the shelves we would find dirty baby diapers bloody snot laden tissues and feces thrown amongst the merchandise on the shelves How does feces get on the shelves I guess I will never knowCustomers would sneeze on the credit card readers when they were paying and I even had some people hand me bloody sweaty money Some women customers would even pull soaking wet cash out of their bras on a hot summer day to pay me Distracted uninterested parents would hand their babies things off the shelves to keep them busy and the babies would have the items in their mouths We couldnt get these Karen type customers to pay for the items which were covered in baby slobber so back on the shelf the stuff went Management would never let us throw the stuff out because they might lose profitThe carts were never once sanitized or cleaned in all the years I worked there and the bathrooms were a biohazard that we hardly had the time to clean up As a matter of fact only once a week our store which was the size of a football field would get the floors mopped The bucket of water would turn black with filth and my lazy coworker would just continue to dip the mop in it and mop the floors without changing the water once I am surprised I did not get the bubonic plague working there|0 Theres a food truck rally in my city that still has yet to make any public announcement on closing and its holding its opening day on the 20th This event easily attracts 1k people especially since its opening day and I wouldnt be surprised if it attracts people from across state borders since were 30 mins away from a certain border Theres confirmed cases a mere 50 minute drive away from this event Thinking from the perspective of the eventholdersestablishment I can fully understand their hesitance This will likely be their biggest event of the year and there are a lot of local food businesses who need the money But dammit now is not the time to be bringing the whole family out to pig out in what will likely be a cold afternoonnight standing room only|1 Im going to loot me a VR headset when the chaos starts|0 That is a real issue indeed I mean prep yourself for any quarantine I got like 10kgs of rice Canned mushrooms potato over a ton of honeynot kidding Flour But you wont solve shit refreshing this constantly and acting like the world is ending COVID19 gonna do its mojo Well see what happens|1 Yep just discovered it its pretty surreal to play that with the news on in the back ground|1 This is a stupid idea telling people not to wear masks tell them that masks do not work is more along the correct lines many people that will contract COVID will show no outward symptoms and be infectious many will have a relapse a few weeks after the first one in short protection only works if everyone uses it and that is now impossible with a mask and respirator shortage this signs needs to be burned down|0 No source or clarification BNO News are good at putting together statistics but shit at actually reporting stuff A small tweet with no context is useless|0 I loved that Hilarious Thank you for this|1 I take it for lupus and it has not ruined my life My mother and aunt take it and are fine|1 Dr Li Wenliang who originally reported coronavirus in December 2019 is reported dead of the virus This is the most bizarre and unusual news yet to come out of this entire story thus far Consider that earlier this month China told the WHO or it was reported elsewhereThe death rate is 2 Also commonly cited by authorities and mainstream outlets80 of deaths are over age 6075 had underlying diseasesThailand Washington State Chinese doctors all found medicines that supposedly helped dramaticallyIf this is the case if you get the disease you supposedly have a 2 chance of dying Of those 2 who die four parts out of five are over 60 so if you are under 60 you would have to be one of those 1 part out of 5 to die Further if you are under 40 the chances must be even smaller Further if you have no underlying disease the chance is smaller still The chance of a 34 year old healthy man who is a high profile figure sympathetically regarded nationally surely by medical judicial authorities and receiving medical treatment dying is supposedly abjectly low well below 1 That leaves a number of possibilities1 He was very very very very very unlucky While possible this would be a remarkable coincidence as he is only one of a handful of very high profile cases in the world He is one of the few people in all of China whose death cannot be covered up2 The mortality rate is a lot higher than 2 That would be in line with the 23 I posted yesterday3 The government deliberately killed him to somehow punish him for whistleblowing While I heard some people morbidly hoping this to be true due to what it would imply about the CFR what this implies about the governments intent what else they are suppressing is perhaps even more terrifying4 He had an underlying disease that has not been reported It is possible but he looks quite healthy in photos Plus he was an active doctorOne other thing is extremely strange about the official story of his case He first noticed symptoms on January 10 and was in the hospital by January 13 Between then and now is 3 weeks Current CFR that are lower than mine depend on an assumption about the time frame of death that it occurs relatively quickly whereas recovery takes longer If this doctor was ill for 3 weeks and died at the end of this period it suggests those assumptions are offThere is yet another very bizarre and strange facet of this case It is reported that he tested negative for the virus several times before finally testing positive around January 30 There was another case of a woman in Hong Kong who tested negative then positive later The same is true of a case in Canada This could lead to the very disturbing possibility that the virus can live at such low traces that it cannot be picked up by current testing methods People could be testing negative then being released falsely The second somewhat more reassuring possibility is that he originally simply had pneumonia but caught coronavirus in the hospital However the problem with this is that it contradicts the official story which is quite specific He got it from a woman he was treating for glaucoma Further if this was true it would be known because he would have tested positive for either bacteria infection or other known viral pneumonia In sum the death of Dr Li Wenliang raises a number of problems and for the first time I am afraidA The government is not being nearly as straightforward as I had thought andorB The mortality rate is higher than thought andorC The virus is unknown to us undetectable even by existing common methods of nucleic acid testing|0 He didnt have that usual adderall enhanced vibrancy either He seemed fuckin shook|0 Look man I hope Im wrong and things are much better in 2 weeks Doesnt change the fact that the people do say we have nothing to worry about have no idea how dangerous this is Countries dont quarantine entire cities and cut off all transportation with other countries for no good reason|0 You should understand that when it comes to a virus this is honestly the best method Basic viral protection is the same regardless and these methods do yield results these basic practices are already very effective when performed properly Sure everybody getting hazmat suits would be great but it would also be a huge waste of money The money is currently being spent on facilities personnel drugs IV fluids awareness campaigns ect It is far more effective to use resources to help prevent the spread of the virus and care for the illIts important to manage risk yes doctors getting sick sucks but in the grand scheme its for the better of everyone|1 Jesus christ its bad but its not THAT bad|0 Actually there are licensed RT Respiratory Therapist for respiratory therapy and ventilation management in other countries such as Taiwan and Singapore Learning the USs experience Taiwan created the job and the related 4years universities for better medical quality several decades ago Finally hope that all RT in the US Taiwan and all of world can be safe and sound |1 Thank you for the ground report regardless|1 tinfoilhat what are the odds of this being intentional sabotage from within Or is the entire country just that incompetent|0 My advice DGAF Its their problem not having a mask on|0 The 1918 flu killed 50 million people at a time when the global population was around 15 billion It killed young people The comparison is very apt in the sense that public health workers prepare for a novel flu mutation which is what made 1918 so deadly Aside from the stockpiles of Tamiflu the plans for that event will serve us quite wellGood public health work stopped SARS in its tracks This is probably too widespread for that but plans exist in every developed country to mitigate it|0 Please see the comment above that states that there is a short supply on the reagents needed for the tests If this is true then yes we will have to triage who gets the tests Without objective findings that will require hospitalization it is very unlikely that you will be high on the triage list since there is no treatments available the ones under trial are all experimental and only used in critical cases On the other hand I am surprised that they are not just treating you as a presumptive coronavirus case recommending isolation at home as at least that will help contain the disease|1 China needs to help the whole world They started this Wet markets where wild and exotic animals are kept caged up in unsanitary conditions on top of each other where bodily fluids drip onto the ones below Theres a Vox video about it on Youtube heart breaking to see bears in cages sold for consumptionThis is unethical and obviously a breeding grounds for viruses|1 If youve got time I definitely need a good recipe though Ever since I went vegetarian Ive stopped enjoying pasta|1 Email this morning from petitionsYou recently signed the petition Close SchoolsColleges down for an appropriate amount of time amidst COVID19httpspetitionparliamentukpetitions300403As the result of the large numbers of petitions and signatures weve received on coronavirus we will be putting your concerns and questions directly to the Government at an evidence session a question and answer session with representatives from the Government in the coming daysTell us what questions youd like us to the ask the Government and experts in this short survey httpswwwsmartsurveycoukspetitionscommitteeWell email you again to let you know more about the session including when its going to happen wholl be taking part and how you can watch it liveWe will also email you a link to the video and a transcript of the session afterwardsWho are weWe are the House of Commons Petitions Committee We are a crossparty group of MPs that looks at epetitions submitted on petitionparliamentuk We are independent from Government You can find out more about us and our work on our website httpwwwparliamentukpetitionscommitteeroleYou can follow the Petitions Committee on Twitter HoCpetitionsThanksThe Petitions teamUK Government and Parliament|1 The close proximity of people living in the state just screams spreading easily|1 Agree with this Whats the source|1 Number of infections has now passed this forecast for January 28th by 113 341 caseshttpspbstwimgcommediaEPOmPMgW4AEiFUSformatjpgnameorigNumber 2019nCoV infections have now increased faster than SARShttpsiimgurcomgI8GoCvpng|1 Yes The mask thing puzzles me If we all wore masks it would limit asymptomatic transmission if nothing else I think it is so the most in need of masks in the closest contact with patients get them|1 Five of ours are pretty young so they are still quite hyper The remaining 5 did nothingEdit The first 5 should be a four Blame muscle relaxers|1 I think the government helps pay for it in those countries In this case Apple is paying out of pocket|1 I wish I had decided to stay home starting last week this week everything seems much worse and now the others in my household are suddenly all about going shopping while it rips through now IMO is the time to stay away from crowds and stores once the dust settles things should be more contained with those who are actually sick hopefully staying home I woke up with all the symptoms of a common cold which feels like death except its not|0 Im not someone who is generally complimentary towards the CCP but it starts to make a small bit of sense why their quarantine methods were so severe Obviously we cant match that level of violation to personal rights in Western nations but citizens are kind of proving why it is a successful strategy|0 Im fairly sure thats the reason why theyre doing it like that Parents and spouses can continue to work and handle every day things|1 no|0 They sure did Like i didnt know what i was talking about It probably didnt help that i was 16 at the time too They probably thought oh this kid doesnt know anything She doesnt know what pain is Shes just confused anxious and sore from the accident I gave up on doctors for a year because i have had it with them not believing me and not doing anything but my back got worse and it was affecting my daily routine in life Im glad i searched and found a good doctor now who listens and believes me|1 Yeah haha Im realizing my list is far too short We need a spreadsheet of global grandmas|1 Only if theres a spike in testing Were just not testing as many people as we need to be This thing couldve been rampant in NYC since January We wont know until they start testing everyone with symptoms and god knows when that will be|1 Thanks your words bring some relief and make me feel not so aloneI just hate this current stage we are at its confusing and stressful and it really doesnt help that our government doesnt seem to care or keep people in the loop I spend most my work day on reddit now checking for updates etc Maybe its time for me to use the last of my holiday then by the time that has run out I will hopefully be able to work from home|0 I dont mind how people react But too much panic is not an excuse for not testing|0 Made worse once he sees this httpsyoutubevtHYZkLuKcI|0 This is Reddit Not shitting on America whether factual or not isnt cool|1 Very sensible but i do think this shows we should be more prepared to They say dont worry but clearly are worried themselves But again they should even if no other cases pop up just to be safe|1 A month later wont hurt|1 If they were all infected by the same person the Chinese woman its also one of the issues with the environment they were infected in If she shook hands with everyone who took part each person could be potentially infected even if she was asymptomatic at the time|0 You would think but wait until the police force shows up with firearms and demands a truancy investigation and while theyre sorting it your kids will be in foster caree To the folks downvoting this you are no better denying the way the state views child attendance than the ones who marginalized the coronavirus and downplay it just a cold I dont like it any better than you do but please dont shoot the messenger|1 I agree that its out of the bag But we should still do everything reasonable to limit the spread in Canada even if we cant stop it completely This will help our health care system to manage the burden and could ultimately save a lot of lives|1 We have no choice Military medical units are going to have to be mobilized on a massive scale I think theyre gonna have to take over every medical building on Pill Hill in Seattle and turn exam rooms etc into makeshift critical care rooms|0 The US is gonna have people going to work during the stage before symptoms arise and then still going to work after symptoms start showing up because most people cant afford taking off people come into work sick all the time here and healthcare costs so much no one really goes to the doctor unless its an emergency Itll spread like crazy here among the majority of people if it has the chance to|0 The frontline staff for NY transportation arent able to be being tested This director his wife and other senior officials that are likely nowhere close to people carrying the virus are getting tests Totally inconsiderate of everyone who is ill|0 Hopefully just military pilots hotdogging while commercial flights are scarce Thats the most innocent explanation I have and its still sounds reckless at best|1 I would probably advise those woth chronic conditions avoid crowded places|0 You could have had one of the other hundreds of viruses causing respiratory illness Lots of things cause cold like symptoms which fits what you describe no fever fever defined as temp 1014 but elevated body temp feeling tired coughing etcx200BProbably wasnt covid19|0 This response to this virus is really giving everyone a front row seat to societys selfishness and narcissism smh|0 We were the best prepared until Trump replaced everyone in the CDC with his friends who have no experience dealing with this and are idiots|1 Yeah heres a picture of the email I forgot to add it to the Boston comment httpsiimgurcomrSJeoY5png|1 Her family noticed the authority of the arrival so everyone was prepared and none had to go on quarantine|1 Your complete and utter lack of critical thinking skills Go back to Call of Duty and enjoy the time you have left youre toast gimpy ass autistic fucktardYou need help|0 I think I probably suffer from depression too Ive found in a lot healthier when Im involved in community type stuff As an agnostic it was always politics that filled the community thing for me rather than a church group if religion is your thing and youre not involved in a church group find one that has similar values to you and join you may find it helps you|0 How is the virus gonna destroy our highway infrastructure How exactly would the virus stop truck drivers from transporting goods Do you expect full city lockdowns like in China Do you expect every truck driver in the country to contract the disease at once An epidemic behaves absolutely nothing like a natural disaster such as a hurricane Its a prolonged battle of attrition Society will remain more or less functional after the initial panic subsides and people adjust to the new normal Thanks for spelling it out for me though|0 Yeah I dont really care about the virus Im not worried about it Im here because Im intrigued psychology of this sub I still remember when all this started like weeks before the first case Im the US A 14 year old made a post freaking out because he had like a 101 fever He was terrified he had it and he live in rural Texas and hadnt ever even been to China|0 Id like to see Betty White kick the living shit out of the coronavirus|0 So they can short their positions in stock market before giving out news|1 Bossert specifically suggesting that School closures isolation of the sick home quarantines of those who have come into contact with the sick social distancing telework and largegathering cancellations must be implemented before the spread of the disease in any community reaches 1 percentIts ALREADY too late It takes 2 weeks from timeofinfection for a person to get sick enough to go to the hospital and MAYBE get tested Deaths take 36 weeks before they make the official stats And in the meantime the undetected cases are doubling and doubling and doubling By the time the tested cases and deaths start accelerating the horse is already out of the barn and down the road Washington state is toast IF the idiots in charge would shut down the country it might well help the Wyoming states that are not so far along in the epidemic|0 ThisThe fact that healthcare providers can not test is outright ridiculous Many providers want to test but not allowed too Will get in trouble by higher ups in company if doesnt follow protocol Whatever is confirmed the actual numbers is multiple times because not Able to testIts the CDC or washington state department having lots of push back Providers want to test We should test as many test that are available per day|0 Is that the middle school teacher I read an article about a middle school teacher in Atlanta who collapsed in class but the article said she was positive for CV|1 fuck jeff bezos treat your employees as humans ffs|0 I have a coworker that is flipping out about the coronavirus but hes also a heavy smokerI keep telling him that the pneumonia from the coronavirus is more likely to screw him up if he keeps smoking and if it aint the pneumonia from the coronavirus itll be something else respiratoryrelated that can make things intolerable for himHes not looking at the problem thats right in front of him Must be a mental human thing isnt itAlso to those of you who are going to quit do not feel bad if you regress and end up smoking again This wont be an overnight thing it might be 3 steps forward 1 step back So yes you will sometimes give in and smoke again but that doesnt mean you failed its just a flat path on your way up that mountain to quit Never feel bad if you fall back into your old habits just be aware and get up and keep going|1 The one story I read the man tested negative and the only reason they kept retesting him until they got a positive was because he was symptomatic and with a group of other patients that had all already tested positive They knew he was positive|1 According to the government they need at least 60 of us to be infected in order to achieve herd immunity 510 of those will require ICU treatment Best case only 07 will die much higher if the NHS collapsesThat means almost 2000000 people will need of ICU treatment and almost 300000 dead best case However unfortunately we only have 800 free ICU beds and those 2 million patients need on average 56 days in ICU in some cases up to a month Those who do recover could face lifelong lung issuesYes 80 of the infected will be relatively unscathed for the remainder its much much worse and the added strain on the health service will bring it crumbling down as is the case in Italy|0 I think due to the uncertainty at at the early days of an infection the xaxis alignment of the graphs are a bit questionableMaybe its better to align the graphs at 100 infections for example|1 How does a hotel just Collapse|0 I just saw someone on an unrelated Reddit page say we shouldnt worry because Coronavirus is only deadly if left untreated |1 aslierogluu your reminder arrives in 1 week on 20200321 225349Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20200321 225349Zreminderid783cfbfae6e54aacb741299db3eac772subredditCoronavirus rCoronavirus Italyexpectscasestoplateauat92000nextweek2rCoronaviruscommentsfij1ygitalyexpectscasestoplateauat92000nextweekfkiqsxocontext33 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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love who will die from it Stop thinking about how it will affect you if you get it and think about those around you who will die if they get it Remember if you have it someone close to you probably does as well And where does that chain end Death of an elderly loved one|0 China suppressed two outbreaks one swine flu H5N1 and another avian flu in the last 20 years possibly due to more competentless corrupt local governmentCovid19 is highly contagious and has long incubation period so we may never know if a more competent local government were to handle it|0 Most of East Asia Please wear masksUS Please dont wear masksAnyone on this sub or otherwise who followed this virus spread knows how the international community valued masks as a first line of spread containment Telling people that masks dont work is at best disingenuous and at worst is insulting to other countries that have vastly more experience in dealing with Covid19 at the time by suggesting theyre doing it wrong while putting local populations in greater dangerEdit Thanks for the correction on Singapore|1 The same exact thing happened to me the other day when I posted about it in a group chat Im in Not only did they barely know anything about CV but they also thought it was a conspiracy They had no idea about the quarantines or any of it They also couldnt understand that China makes everything we use and how that could be an issue Totally ignorant to all of it I was shocked|0 Had to clear with Pence first|1 Sucks that happened to you Thats always quite an experience|0 But millions of people get the flu the rate is what matters not the raw numbers Only 1 of flu sufferers even go into hospitalization Most people take the flu very seriously I hear someone say something about the flu almost every single day this time of year If this became as widespread as the flu many many more people would die I think the difference is at least 10 times last I saw|0 No its not|0 Share a Link to that|1 were two weeks behind Italy keeps getting pushed But its worse because Italy took measures to slow growth and spread|0 This is the time when we see which organizations are taking care or their own Ill be taking my business from hoes to bros|1 More like the law of not thinking 1 move ahead|1 Why is it so hard for you to realize that the statementif the American people had heard what senators were told there would be outrage and uproaris meaningless unless the guy grows a pair and elaborates|0 Wow even though asymptomatic patients can shed the virus and infect others Swell|1 Dont blame the CDC blame Trump who does not hire people based on merit but on their willingness to swear loyalty to him|1 Dont worry about such things not yet Organ failure seems extremely dangerous but under ICU care there are definitely ways to slow down the inflammatory damage of the immune system that could lead to the organ failure This seems to be a rare occasion|1 At work we have to get yearly tested for the proper fit because if you get the wrong size it isnt going to do anything for you|0 Just to help keep things in perspective Stats released today from the Italian Health Service which offer insight into how this disease affects various ages143 Case Fatality Rate 90 years old82 CFR 80894 CFR 707914 CFR 606901 CFR 50590 under 50httpswwwissitenprimopianoassetpublishero4oGR9qmvUz9contentid5292020Ive looked at the commentary on more how shall we say science guided subs the numbers appear consistent with other viral pneumonias that frequently take a hard toll on the elderlyIm starting to think people are getting overly consumed by the numbers but its becoming overwhelmingly clear that this disease is not particularly concerning for most otherwise healthy adults That being said there certainly is a vulnerable population so limiting spread should be at the forefront of everyones mind If you are an otherwise healthy adult I see no reason why you would have to rush to an emergency room or doctors office to get a lab result|1 If if was a fifth wed all be drunk|0 Funerals are forbidden luckily I have no first hand experience but seems like a small ceremony is allowed The news reported that in Bergamo the situation is quite surreal from this point of view undertakers are required to work overtime by a significant amount it was really sad to see a video of hearses waiting in line to enter the cemeteryFor now seems like its still a civil situation but keep in mind that parents of the people died dont ever see them after the ambulance bring them to the hospital|0 I do not trust these data The rates are adjusted for underascertainment and corrected for demography I understand the former to some extent though China repeatedly said that there is no tip of the iceberg and the great majority of cases were discovered But corrected for demography Why Do they assume that each age group should be infected equally Why so This report analyzing much more cases and later in the outbreak claims that children were initially underinfected because of the school break due to the Lunar New Yearhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030320030593v1 They also provide odds ratio of getting severe case and children 010 were 3 times less likely to become severe than 2040 The table above suggest 0 severe cases in children which is unbelievable And they have overall more severe cases 195 severe plus 30 critical that the table above It seems that he data comes from Ref 22httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021020021675v2 that is so outdated that the authors have withdrawn the preprint you can see the original in history though and I think the table comes from data that is both too old initially not all cases were captured and resolved and this data is too massaged to be reliable It maybe OK for old age groups if we assume under reporting big if but is not reliable for younger age groups|0 Also if you cant find hand soap in its usual home try the dish soap Most dish soap brands have an antibacterial hand soapdish soap And its superconcentrated so it should last awhile I found this by accident|0 I can finally stop using incognito tabs|0 Am I the only one to want to know the dope background music|1 If America doesnt get medicare for all after all this then they really need a revolution I feel so bad for everybody in the US right now Not that its paradise here in the UK but still|0 Civilians werent getting bombed in any quantity during WWI The interesting thing about WWI is that while the front lines and no mans lands were nightmarish visions of hell it was possible to use admittedly very large conventional artillery to shoot shells to scare people in normal cafesOne paradoxical thing about 1918 was that a seriously ill soldier who would be brought to a field hospital is actually more likely to move around and infect new people than a mildly ill one who would suffer in the trench|0 Does anyone know why Italy was hit first and why so severely|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 I live in a suburb of Los Angeles Our ER wait is 13 hours Our urgent care is five hours And last week when I think I had the flu I was dying I could not get a dr appt what I did get was an automated response to my email and a rx cough solution People out here call an ambulance for quicker treatment|1 youre correct but were also in a society where you cant take off work because people are stressed financially|0 Stupidly long hours treated like shit by everyone including children badly paidthen why does she do it She must be madEdit getting downvoted for just summarising the above post must be a lot of bitter teachers about|0 Winston Churchill had a very accurate assessment of the US You can always count on Americans to do the right thing after theyve tried everything else Well get there in time|1 Friend told me in her city in Iran one make and female nurse both around 24 died a few days ago|0 There are several reasons why US cities wont look like Wuhan The virus was completely unknown and spread unchecked for possibly months before mitigation tactics were implemented The virus disproportionately affects males This is hypothesized to be a result of high smoking rates in China which ranks as the 15th highest country by smoking rate The US is 69th Sanitation infrastructure in China is significantly less developed than in the US Government regulations regarding safety and health standards are significantly more stringent in the US Seasonal warming has begun in the cooler climatesThere are reasons why US cities might look as bad as Wuhan or possibly worse Lack of testing may in effect allow the virus to spread as though it were completely unknown Lack of basic health insurance is more common in the US and more people will delay seeking medical care while symptomatic Culturally Americans tend to work while sick with contagious diseases Blame it on lack of workers rights or benefits or stubbornness or whatever the effect is much reduced voluntary isolation The Chinese wear masks when they are sick While the impact of this may be limited since the most popular masks dont filter the virus they at the very least act as reminders not to touch their faces and prevent large droplet dispersal And on and on Bottom line is this shit is complex and we dont really know what will happen when it gets here The benefit we have is that of forewarning|0 fucking hilarious username to comment ratiotoo bad dumbass you voted for a clearly incompetent leader and now youre let down by his performance no sympathy from me his healthcare and disease control policies including enormous cuts to the CDCs budget were public information well before the election|0 Okay this one is truly apocalyptic|0 even those places would be hit less hard than the worst places in China though our cities are much less crowded than theirs even the major ones because of how much land they work with|0 Its not that bad if you know the address and birthday|1 Yes I think the most important is that they actually took many people back to lives Everyone of them are heroes for the country|1 welp looks like governments worldwide its not just US one thats giving such an advices tries to save more masks for healthcare workers dunno how things are in the US but here where i live masks suddenly dissapered when outbreak was only in China and still very limited probably its due to reselling them to Chinathough we probably arent so screwed cause we have facilities that produce masks here|1 This is a post by the totally real Chinese poster chingchongching lol reddit how the fuck yall fall for something this blatently obvious|0 Hard to tell I assume within Lombardy there is variability in terms of density throughout the region Obviously thats the case with Washington Stateeven in your own example Seattle is 10 times more dense than the state overall which suggests there is a lot of geographic area in Washington that is far LESS dense than 266 per square km I think another major factor is ZONING LIFESTYLE The US comes in for a lot of criticism living our big box consumer lifestyles Everybody wants their own single family home a much bigger of Americans commute to work in their cars rather than walkbikepublic transit compared to other countries etc Its possible that in this instance it may be beneficial For example even if certain urbansuburban areas have a similar density of people per square km we might find slower community spread if more people drive to work by themselves in thier own cars only go grocery shopping once per week vs shopping daily in bodegas corner markets live in a townhome with their own entry doors mailboxes versus an apartment complex with lots of common space etc|1 What about when the military starts getting sick|0 per review is just a censorship to reduce the panic|0 When youre not working stay focused on something more healthy like reading a new book or improving your work skillsId recommend watching some comedy as well The relief was palpable when I stopped following news about this and just spent a few hours watching old comedy shows I like|1 They can hide the infected numbers they can hide the true cause of death but they cant hide the total numbers of dead This number is going to bite them in the arse This will be the metric that countries are judged|0 Good luck youre over the hump|1 Im wondering if the samples are being sent to Winnipeg I thought maybe they started to test in Ottawa as well|1 They dont even have a cure for the cold or fluand its been hundreds of yearsthey wont have one for Coronavirus eitherIn response to people not understanding There is nothing antivaxxers can make worse for this situation because there is no vaccine and there is no cure and there probably never will be You either get over it or you dont like any other flu or cold Except the death rate is higher than the average flu or cold So far only people are dying are boomers and people from highly conservative countriesseems like the Earth is vaccinating herself from the pollution disease that is humans|0 CLO is mod of both subs and has a 3 month old account with little activity before this Nothing against him and not saying he is but I understand why It can look suspicious|0 Whats with all these 100 year olds surviving this thing I guess if they can survive to 100 they can outlast anything|1 Fuck|0 lol more fear mongering Were in trouble when we get a real pandemic After this blows over without major impacts people are going to be more incredulous the next time people cry wolf|0 I work in the kitchen at a restaurant It is so dead right now Only regulars are coming in It is so damn boring Id rather be slammed busy than have nothing to do|0 Im pretty surprised there seem to be quite a few just a flu bros left Even here in Daegu Korea aka new Wuhan|1 Oh yeah 50k kits is all theyll ever need Since theres only like 12k total infections right Even your source says they cant process them fast enough Thats what they call a bottle neck btw|1 More importantly something like 5 need respiratory support and a further 15 need oxygen|1 thank God we have mike pence in charge|1 I can see Trump putting a limit on how many tests the US is allowed to do so that our numbers still look low In his declaration of national emergency he specifically told us to NOT get tested even when tests become available|0 Well I think its safe to say the strategy is to slow burn the virus Make sure everyone gets it but not at the same time as to prevent us from hitting surge capacity I personally dont like that thats the path they are taking but maybe when all is said and done this is the best way to handle it I have questions about how this will look a few months from now not to mention a year from now when hopes of a vaccine are squashed I can say with certainty that I would hate to be one of the people in the room making decisions|1 tens of thousandsMan if China only has a few tens of thousands infected with a population of over a billion it should have absolutely zero effort providing enough masks one factory could handle that and have enough to spare to send aid|0 dunno why youre downvoted because youre not wrong in this case|1 You dont need to have a cop on every street You just need roadblocks on main highways and random patrols around the cities If they tell us we have to stay in our homes or risk arrest almost everyone will comply|0 I like your optimism in USA Im proud of been part of this country and I believe we have the best medical system in the world In the other hand I understand this cut us by surprise and with pants down If they only had tested 500 individuals in the last month is because either they are not trying or they are lying to keep the masses from panicking Think about it the first case in CA was already hospitalized on the 19 and the hospital requested a testing and it was denied by the CDC because that individual does not meet the testing criteria like been in China|1 Yes but China doesnt and even a 10 hospitalisation rate would be quite devastating to the healthcare system|0 So these patients havent been just left there for their family and cant just go home if their family would have them I wish more people understood this We had to put my great grandma in a nursing home solely because we cant afford to have a nurse at our house 247 She overdosed twice when she was living with us and now she forgets what shes talking about mid sentence The last thing wed want to deal with is her microwaving or cooking something forgetting about it and killing herself while burning the house downIt sucks and no one wants to go into a nursing home but most of the people in said homes arent forgottenits just that no one can take care of them|1 So does vaping also weaken ur lungs to respiratory illnesses|0 I will be messaging you in 6 months on 20200918 154829 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202009182015482920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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GB has almost twice the areaNew England as a whole is larger though|1 I still have water but like someone said tap water isnt good for consumption even with boiling I did order a Brita filter just in case but I doubt it will be delivered before this is all over|0 I think Magic Johnson won both of those awards|1 By the time this gets real bad the leaders of countries who blew off COVID19 will be in hiding at undisclosed locations|0 What an absolute fucking moron|0 Id say its still entirely reasonable to call the risk right now low Even at worst case extrapolated numbers for right now most people today or tomorrow are quite unlikely to be exposedNow its unreasonable to say dont worry the risk right now is low Because who cares about the risk right now but rather the risk over the course of the disease But hey|0 Cant have new cases if you stop counting httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvcWE0H5kTik4httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvcWE0H5kTik4|0 Then where should those kids get food then smart ass|0 He takes Hydrocortisone for his pituitary gland on a daily basis and weve been told to double up on that dosage Hes taking Mucinex Fast Max for the coughing and flu like symptoms along with some extra Tylenol for the fever Hes extremely uncomfortable but I have faith that hell get better|0 Arent they floating trauma hospitals I think they are more geared to a different type of carnage They will need any extra respiratory care equipment to be transferred to hospitals on the front line|1 Wishing him the best and his family Hope the Chinese can see how corrupted the CCP is|1 rCOVIDsupport is a safe place for people to come when they feel anxious and uncertain Your comments came across as unkind and insensitive to the anxiety many here are feelingThere is zero tolerance for this kind of attitude and if you post similar comments again you will be banned|0 It doesnt include Montenegro but there isnt confirmed any so plz update Im anxious|0 Yeah I didnt get that at first but reading other comments made it clearer It would be nice to see a visual chart like this that compares confirmed flu rates instead of estimated|1 Bullshit Free to roam N WA|0 Exactly If you are with an illness and you cant afford healthcare it simply means you didnt work hard enough and you deserve to die those lazy drains of society|0 Unfortunately|0 What a bummer I have watched E3 conferences live every year for the past 10 years Its basically Christmas in the summer Wont feel the same now|0 I suppose the latter possibility 21 did he test positive because it wasnt eradicated and the virus found the opportunity to reinfect was the most likely explanation It is not so easy to get rid of the virus completely from the body and I assume that is why the Chinese authority extended the additional monitoring period for the discharged exconfirmed from 14 days to 28 days As for turning negativepositive case reports for passengers of the cruise ship though only for asymptomatic confirmed cases it might be also interesting for you Diamond Princess Japan Case Reports of Asymptomatic confirmed from the cruise ship It took more than 9 days to turn negative and also 20 of them are to turn positive again NHK in Japanese 1854 0900 Mar 13 2020httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhxun7diamondprincessjapancasereportsof I posted the translation of the original article in the comment section|1 Heres the link to the BLAST search used in the paper if you too feel like searching and seeing for yourself The paper is garbage and I cannot fucking believe the pushback scientists are getting for pointing out how bad this is Believe it or not scientists are on reddit Were just getting drowned out by panic and conspiracy theorists Just type in your amino acid sequence of interest httpsblastncbinlmnihgovBlastcgiPROGRAMblastpPAGETYPEBlastSearchLINKLOCblasthome|0 My partners employers policy is to fire anyone who calls in sick more than SEVEN work days per year It doesnt make sense|0 John Paul II died Benedict XVI resigned and the world kept turning This is overdramatized|0 Iran and China work together My guess is the Iranians were accidentally infected by the Chinese who didnt know yet that they were infected|0 Wow this is a solid super interesting thank you for this break down|1 Lol I know what brand you worked for INSTANTLY I work for that company as well and Karens really have a cool way of emotionally manipulating you and verbally abusing you when she doesnt get her way Been here 4 years and things dont change much but certain aspects have gotten worseUpdate Nordstrom is giving out 2 weeks14 days paid leave to employees working In stores A lovely blessing for many of my coworkers and our families|1 I grew up Catholic in the Midwest Id say the majority of us knew the real and fake histories of St Patrick We were taught it as little kids not in fancy universities|0 this is almost exactly me right now except we know I have asthma Omg Thank you for sharing Im glad youre doing better|1 We dont know if its R3 The estimates depend on accurate reporting of cases which isnt happening It could be higher could be lower|0 You did the right thing But us telling you that doesnt fix the situation I think I would just throw the whole thing to HR and say Im not sure what I did wrong Please tell me if the rules as I was made to understand them were wrong|0 Dude They got on an airplane Full of people Walked around the airport Full of people Had to get home taxiuberpublic transitprivate car Who knows but more exposure Lets say they self quarantined after that Howre they eating Take out More exposure Half the people here dont even bother to think|1 My social butterfly would definitely get sick of it quickly With no confirmed cases here yet I am also worried it would mean them home for two months not just a couple weeks|0 This dope in the article is a complete and utter moron but elective surgery is a pretty big catch all At its core its just a surgery that is scheduled in advance So we could be talking about cancer related procedures organ transplants and more|0 UBI is literally politicians praying on the desperate|1 Seriously though I would only imagine it hurting their businessreputation|0 Quite a big move From 075 to 025 the lowest level in history on a level to during the last recession|0 I almost wonder if theyd intentionally expose whistleblowers to infected people|0 It most definitely does not take hours to clean a CT machineEdit it does take hours if the patient is on droplet caution|1 What is death from corona like What causes the death exactly I searched but couldnt find anything|0 WHO id just following ordersstandard protocol for pandemic Admission in private that the virus cant be stopped in public work with all governments to prevent hysteria and panic|0 Its not good to panic but if you do panic before everyone else|1 Many politics are loosing their minds They get unexpectedly emotive while in public the pressure is too highBecause they knows|0 The population who are going to get hit the hardest in Chicago are taking it the least seriously This is fucking sad|0 Still have to process them I doubt we have the capacity yet|0 Its been the plan all alongStock up Shitstorm coming Nobody will help youMy thought exactF it at this point just stock up|1 The governor of MS and his family just returned from their spring break vacation in Spain He and his family are isolating themselves but our government knew about this shit 2 weeks ago He should have cancelled the trip|0 I have a couple nurse friends who work at the civic and believe its here 100 They mentioned the hospital having presumptive cases and that these people are advised to self quarantine until further testing if they are even tested at all|1 I find it interesting that we appear to be importing cases from areas that are not experiencing an outbreak Here is one possibly from Hawaii and one late last week from Las Vegas |1 Listen to Anthony Fauci NIAID Director on risk factors herehttpsedhubamaassnorgjnlearningaudioplayer18297084|0 His own charity which vaccinated kids around the world to keep them alive So evil|0 CCP controls whether you live or die and if you reincarnate If Li dies without permission from Xi he will be punished Any Lama that reincarnates without official permission will be punished They killed 100 Million 60 years ago whats a few more|0 No people take risks and if they over leveraged themselves in this overinflated market too bad|0 People just dont care They wont care until something important to them is at stake|0 Hi wheres the source that the UK is so good at pandemic preparedness I havent seen that beforeI hope youre right that theyre just doing a piss poor job of communicating Im really scared|0 Thank you|1 TranslationMastercard closes offices in SP and NY for coronavirusEmployee works in Brazil and traveled to the New York office last week Company stated that operations remain normalBy Allan Gavioli6 mar 2020 16h44SO PAULO Mastercard one of the largest companies in the payments sector in the world closed its office in So Paulo after a company employee was diagnosed with the new coronavirusThe infected employee works at the headquarters in Brazil but was recently in an office in Purchase New York which was also closedThe two offices would undergo a complete sanitation process said Bloomberg The So Paulo branch is located in Brooklin in the South Zone of So PauloSought by InfoMoney Mastercard confirmed the information and stated that the employee is receiving adequate medical careThe payment company also said in a statement that it believes there is a low risk of transmission for most of its employees however following the advice of public health officials it decided to close the officesEmployees who have been in contact with the affected employee and are developing symptoms should seek medical attention and work from home for 14 days They will only return to the office after this period and as long as they or any member of their family are not sick or showing symptoms says the company noteFinally Mastercard made it clear that its operations continue normally both in So Paulo and in New YorkWe continue to monitor this situation closely and we will take all necessary precautions to ensure the health and safety of our employees concludes the company in a noteCoronavirus in BrazilAccording to the latest report from the Ministry of Health released on Friday 6 Brazil has 13 confirmed cases of Covid2019 In addition the agency confirmed on Thursday 5 cases of local transmission until then all cases were of people who had visited countries with more advanced contagion stageThere are 768 suspected cases in the country Since the start of monitoring 480 cases have been ruled outThe states with confirmed cases are Bahia 1 Esprito Santo 1 Rio de Janeiro 1 and So Paulo 10|1 Iranian hygiene is pretty good Iranian news is suppressed Its going to get ugly in Iran|1 Its just pop music in a different language BTS in particular tend to have very beautiful messages in their songs which they mostly write themselves I originally thought it was cringy too but I gave it a chance Despite what most people say the fandom tends to be very wholesome|1 Bbut I thought the GOP was the party of states rights|1 Dont want to intrude but why the hell dont you pull her out of the nursing home for a year or twoI know it isnt easy but hey its a life or death matter|0 Wow I initially thought the title was a typo Thats crazy|1 Can we just make like an international effort to produce the shit out of these things Fuck the markets Its awful to know people are going to die when they could be saved by equipment hospitals dont have|0 If they were ill enough and I was worried theyll die I would People die waiting hours for ambulances to arrive as it is|0 You cant fire WHOs Director General through internet rantsThe member countries can fire him They wont|1 As an Ohioan the things thats been remarkable is that decisions were made here at the same time they were being made in Washington and other states even though we had a fraction of the cases The governor has made some bold moves and most of us are very grateful|1 Remember when the CDC said that masks do nothing but like every other country around the world enforced mask wearing when people leave home for essential reasons maskgate|0 Thank you Just watching this carefully|1 Everybody likes sausage but nobody likes seeing how its made|1 People will probably worry City Wok guy has the virus and then lock him in the restaurant as a forced quarantine When he runs out of food he resorts to eating the bats in the storage area and then actually contracts the virus days before his quarantine is lifted and he infects the entire town Also cartman will say are farts a symptom of the Cumboner Virus And then fart in kyles eye|0 Yes there is|1 Good luck enforcing that amongst children Instant fail|1 so many people seem to think we just stored in them in some random uhaul and were like ohh time to bust out the old vents|1 I dont understand why they are so reluctant to close the schools Im a teacher from Scotland and it seems the argument is that with school closures health workers will not be able to go to work Yet if the schools are not closed they are more likely to pick up the virus from their children and therefore will not be able to work anyway|0 When will the nice Germans and French the leaders of Europe realize that this is more than a fluEdited for political correctness|1 Boris is such a cunt|0 He does look to be in better shape than BernieLol|1 Immediately Theres a video showing the bodies being left in emergency room because the crematoriums were full|0 Easiest way is to donate blood Or go get a blood test from your doctor|1 Throughout history Disease and War politics have competed for the title of Top Killer of Humans Through medical advances Cancer Cholera Influenza Plague Smallpox Typhus Yellow fever and a number of other major and minor diseases are now under control Politics war is now the 1 killer of people in the world We should step up the war against politicserrwaitthat came out wrong But yakno if we only let politicians go to war Maybe we could get the death toll of War down as well|0 Edit Misread the post Yes well probably get to a lockdown|1 We dont use the same n95 masks that doctors get Its a totally different supply and supply chain they are ordering in bulk we buy 10 packs already sold to retail outlets The hospitals cant get resupplied right now because demand is high in the entire world by other hospitals and production can only make so many at one time The hospitals are probably just giving a bullshit reason to conserve them for when they start to get overwhelmed with sick because they cant get more of them at the moment and they dont want doctors and nurses to cause a panic and quit because they are unprotected|0 Im supposed to be going to Nashville two weeks from today With the tornadoes and now this Im seriously wondering if I should just cancel|0 Ok Iran China South Korea and Cruise ship in Japan Whats next|1 It wont cure you but theres this thing called olive leaf extract and it help clean you out especially decongest Ive heard of people taking and saying it makes them feel a whole lot better real quick Its also an immune booster Dont worry Im not an antivaxx crazy person this stuff will just help you feel better obviously take meds if you need it|1 But ignorance can sometimes emphasis on sometimes can be good|1 Why not wear a n95 mask with a surgical mask over it Best of both worlds|1 80 of the passengers are above 60 at least 200 are in their 80s with 11 in their 90shttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020feb13japanreportsfirstcoronavirusdeathas44morecasesconfirmedaboardcruiseship Due to their age and the circumstances of their quarantine you would expect them to do worse than the general population with regards to corvid19|0 Read this as someone needs to update Alabama and I like to think it would still apply|1 its 5 assuming theres no big number of cases that go unreported which is unlikely which is why other estimates are closer to 23 |0 Japan is taking some measures Many gatherings conferences and concerts are cancelled Some shops and businesses are reducing opening times I was at a usually popular restaurant last weekend and it was dead People are still going out and about and doing things but definitely less than usual Trains are less busy etc Masks everywhere|1 I hope people understand now that your fucking election system is trash|1 Videos like this make it impossible for me to believe that corona isnt so much more dangerous than we are being led to believe That a person can take this video and put it online when we know full well the worlds eyes are on China right now means that they really are helpless in the face of this virus No controls in a totalitarian state in the hospitals built for dealing with the very virus theyre trying to prevent the spread of means to me that there is no preventing it|0 It was an idea to implement when no one is in the building a few minutes during night hours but as someone suggested the best plan might be to simply include a UV light within the existing air filtration system Which I think is the best betWorkers have access to hand washing sinks eye wash and hand sanitizers Theres only so much you can do|1 Im not an expert in any sense but its probably because it takes longer to be certain someones fully recovered than it takes to be certain someone is dead|0 I am glad she did this but WH will eat her alive|1 Everything is disposable now Now things running out in Shops we hopefully will see true value|1 What a man Respect|1 Chinese virus researchers not once but TWICE accidentally released SARSThis is probably accident 3With 2 of the world gonna bite the dust another 16 get extremely sick the world economy about to go in the shitter are we supposed to sit back and wait for accident 4It may not have been bioweapons research But it really doesnt matter does it These careless people play with dynamite deadly viruses and the rest of the world ends up paying the cost RepeatedlyTime to give China an ultimatum perhaps Cease all deadly virus research shut down the labs or |0 One thing that I think is most needed right now are urgent stats and charts on the rate of spread over the physical world Theres a lot of data coming out of flutrackerscomhttpsflutrackerscom but I dont see anything in the shape of animated progressions which Im fairly certain are never seeing the light of day when theyre only shown to governments behind closed doorsTheres a lot of physical changes going on in China right now with the quarantines theyre implementing but we simply dont have enough charts from reputable sources showing the progression by citycheckpoint over timeIm getting really fed up with comparisons talking about 29 deaths vs deaths from flu at this exact moment which is a logically misleading comparison at best and outright harmful misinformation at worst especially when were talking about modelling an exponential growth|0 Finally some damn truth|0 Rather than panicking watch Prof Chris Whittys answers to the House of Commons committee and the two press conferences There is a highly sophisticated strategy in place and sometimes it appears counterintuitive Of course whether the strategy will work is another question|1 when it spreads there cause its just a matter of time please remember to insult once again Winny the Flu and the chinese party for their lack of transparency with their people that shit would never happen in murrica right|0 Lets try this a different wayChina would never trade the destruction of its economy so they could contain a virus that has only infected 75k and killed only a few thousand|0 Theres no difference in reporting accuracy with CNN MSNBC Fox BBC other legacy corporate news entertainment But Infowars cut into their bottom line and by being independent the other outlets closed ranks to try and eliminate the threatThe total size of the pond for viewership is shrinking As result the fish in that pond are increasingly nasty in the fight with one anotherThis is part of the generational shift of widespread adoption of the internet Preinternet politicians at the height of their career who still look on at cable media outlets as the be all for influence over the public The world changed Those taxi medallions just arent as valuable anymore|0 We should just be closing all schools at this point If the WHO is saying now is the time to pull out all the stops anywhere where there is large groups of people packed in together should be shut until this all blows over We have to do it now before the virus spreads widely Cant believe how pathetic and ineffectual our government has been so far We are still letting in people from Iran Italy Egypt and China every single day And guess who gets to pay for their treatment when they get here|0 That was a misleading headline In the most extreme case they found traces of the virus in a patient after 37 days Median 20 days Thats just being able to detect the virus not the patient being infectious or having symptoms Brief I watched yesterday said that the infectious period is 5 days|0 Its inconvenient but probably the ideal conditions for a quarantine Floating hotel|1 ARE YOU READY SKIDADDY Jim Cramer|1 Yep that is literally almost all we have to do BUT you see all those kids at the florida beaches cause FuckBoomers |1 Great|1 I feel like 2 weeks is no where near long enough for this to peak|1 Problem is Wuhan has already shown what an epidemic of covid 19 would look like here|0 You are right kind of Problem is many people will not get tested yet even if they do have the virus and are shedding it They cant test everyone at once or in the small timeframeMaybe we will look back in a week and thing that there was actually many more people that were infected than we thought That is what I think will happen as there are now 45 of provinces that have a positive confirmed case Those are cases with symptoms It goes from north of Italy all the way down to Sicily I hope I am wrong though|0 no shit lol thats why i called it a joke jfc|0 They have a job to do and they do it all over the internet They have thousands if not tens of thousands of internet propagandists working away day and night just like the Russians Its a relatively cheap investment to try and spread propaganda about your country I mean look at the Confucius centers at American colleges|1 Gwyneth Paltrow and Goop have already come up with an all natural cure for the Corona Virus but wont announce it until S2 of the Netflix show|1 Were going on an adventure |1 Thank you for making the sacrifice and bless you for making them donate the food Im sorry about your wedding but you are good people|1 Reading this stuff makes me so thankful to not only work somewhere where Im not going to be laid off but also have been given unlimited paid sick leave for the next two months if it relates to COVID Hold out hope you guys|1 Thank you so much sitting at my desk being everyone else whos panickings rock while no one seems concerned Im about to lose it myself Reading this helped me immensely|0 I appreciate not having a preprint for once|1 It doesnt matter if the hope is minimal 61 of infected requires critical care This is not the kind of virus you give up on containing|1 He did call pelosi incompetent a few times|0 I have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say|0 Shame that people in the early onset stages arent supposed to even have contact with the NHS|0 Yikes That does not seem shall we call it promising|1 Ngl I hope this legitimately doesnt shorten his life by a decade The long term impact of this sounds absolutely horrible|0 Something does seem off about the differences in this virus inside of China and outside Even more so when most of the cases outside of China appear to be quite mild and it appears to have been spreading since November if not earlier which if it is as virulent as people say makes it hard to believe it didnt escape Wuhan months ago|0 This is what we had then in Stockholm in November Emergency care hospitals 2 779 beds geriatrics 969 palliativ care 200 Psychiatricabuse care 1 100 Specialized surgery and neurological rehab 185For a million peopleTheese were at capacity due to normal operations where are we going to put the Corona patients We also only have 500 ECMO units available in December 300 were in use that is for the nationWe have no overcapacity we are lacking normal capacity its evident how it will work out I know it is the same in alot of places but Wold could have noticed what doctors have been complaining about since 2003 that if something big happens we will be in serious troubleThis is a attempt to divert attention over our own failure imhoHopefully when it has passed into normality again we will have learned something I really hope so but history speaks against usMeh not wanting to sound bitter but I dont think people still realize what sort of crapshoot this is going to be |0 The question is WHEN the US is going to start mass testing like other countries I mean Korea 15k a day Italy 12k a day Germany 10k a day and the US with 510 times the population only 5001000 maybe We have no real idea of whats going on right now in america thats the only truth|1 The way this is being handled should be the nail in Trumps political coffin Once people start dying the outrage will be real|0 the 1918 flu did not end civilization as we know it but it was the seconddeadliest event of the last 200 years Expect people you know to dieHmm thats helpful|1 True maybe we should start building more crematoriums so they wont have to run 247|1 Same thing over here Brewery I frequent is giving a discount to college students who cant go home in their cityfaculty at the university as well as people who work at bars or restaurants who are having their pay significantly decreased by the outbreakAdmirable thing just hope being open doesnt make anything worse|1 Keep up the studies it gets easier and funner|1 So then we agree in some serious situations quarantines work|1 I think your theory is probably accurate Best of luck to you and your family and please keep us posted|1 What role does air quality play in recovery from a respiratory illness like this Would it be wise to invest in air purifiers or take other steps to increase the air quality inside of the home given that if one gets COVID19 it could help to have cleaner air while recovering|1 So proud of you PDX|1 The problem is delivering good healthcare to all those who need it which may be too many for hospitals to handle|1 Indeed shutting schools will take a 3 hit to the GDP ie money more important than peoples lives|1 Basically luckily besides the one dude refusing to self quarantine we seem to not be spreading it as fast as other states|1 This sub if full of Chinese propaganda Disgusting stuff and an insult to the thousands theyve killed|0 Option 1 is off the table because civilization has not done the groundwork to prepare for a pandemic We had our chance in 2003 and 2009 and those opportunities were ignored and squandered because they blew over with relatively little incident for the global communityNow there are massive liabilities in the global supply chain and economic structure with no contingencies in place So the only option is to weather the storm|0 Ive already said to some friends we need to look after each other when this rolls in But its just the flu Its frustrating people cant take this just slightly seriously Im in Brighton There was a big rally against fascists All I saw was people spreading this about now|0 Yep they could effectively track that the same credit card is being used for repeated purchases of the same item but they can have a stack of cards and cash to get around that Otherwise the system depends on employees noticing and reporting them|1 Thats another user buddy Look at our usernames I didnt suggest anything like that at all lmao My post simply states that people are blind to it right now and two weeks from now when it gets bad people are going to flip shitYoure the one taking it out of context and putting words in my mouth saying I said the US will collapse and the downfall of our country will be due to the virus Its my post dipshit Its a meme I created It means whatever I say it means|0 Crazy Im in palm beach county and you can see people starting to panic Publix yesterday was INSANE|0 What makes us so sure we arent grossly underestimating the numbers of infected Can we be sure that this new disease surfaced just now instead of being undetected for months disguising itself through asymptomatic carriers or flu symptoms What if there are millions of infected already It would make all the quarantine procedures useless I find it quite absurd how Wuhan with 1108 million people and an absurdly high population density only got around 122k known cases|0 Non experts fear the same thing Corona virus is spreading in the US uncontained I think they realized it couldnt be contained so why bother going through the measures Just wait and see how it plays out while hoping for a cure or vaccine before it becomes catastrophic|0 I mean shes definitely not speaking the Wuhan dialect Her pronunciation is close to regular Mandarin meaning she could be from anywhere If I had to guess maybe Fujian Could be Taiwan even since the sound is similar Honestly I very much doubt this is some random citizen with no agenda There are a lot of those kind of people posting videos on Weibo and they are very personal My father my mother my son or daughter going through this awful heartwrenching struggle to find treatment in this hospital Very relatable stuff and everyone can empathizeThis video doesnt do that at all No personal anecdotes just an abstract tirade People are doing things but no specific people or specific things Especially the references to HK and Taiwan which are most certainly not normal things to say for a random angry citizen And the random conspiracy theories dont help either You cant get any more generic antiCCP than this video|0 The forum I cross posted that from is chock full of people blatantly saying things like Id be happy to go take their money Hell Ill take my whole family and quadruple mah money Well show those doomsday idiots that this thing is no worse than the conmon cold So yeah it angers me too|0 It has nothing to do with an American attitude and everything to do with their government not bothered with the rights of their citizens|1 Can you all stop calling EMT over something ridiculously stupid my brother is swamped as isOh I got a headache no thats not coronavirus stay indoors|0 If you think this is grim wait until late Aprilearly MayFor example I find it charming for people to be worrying and talking about the NBA and NHL playoffs as they always do Nobody seems willing to even mention that they may be worrying about nothing And by nothing I mean worrying about a sporting contest which wont in fact take placeChances the playoffs get cancelled sometime in AprilMay or June in order to limit social contact in the face of Covid 19 raging in the community Id put that in the likely columnWe aint seen nothin yet|0 on the other hand you can be confused if you are told that the princess has been quarantined|1 Temperature guns are ineffective as you are asymptomic for a long time|0 If COVID19 makes me vote for Trump to stop Buttigieg Im going to be so fucking mad|0 Well they will certianly weld people like you into homes because i got a suspicion youd be one of the quarantine breakers|1 That 5 minutes part is like a slap in the face|1 All you can do is prepare Thats it I was at a warehouse club today getting some normal groceries and a few prep items and there was an elderly woman holding onto her cart with tissues under her palms loading her cart with toilet paper water lots of dry cat food canned goods cold medicines etc normal prep items but every time someone passed her in the aisle she startled and glared at them suspiciously and moved her body away from them She looked so frightened and panicked and I felt bad for her No one else was acting like this If more cases start to show imagine a whole store filled with people scared like this lady was I dont want to be a part of that Most people wouldnt So like I said just prepare stay calm and if nothing bad happens you just wont have to buy toilet paper for awhile You can stay home and avoid all of the rushing around at the stores|0 Vindication in this situation for those of us that have been insisting this is the case for weeks doesnt feel like vindication The neurological symptoms in videos coming out were impossible to miss|0 Is USA handling the situation badly with limited accessibility to test kits employers remaining uncooperative in having people work from home and the overall health climate where the controls dont seem to be effective in addition to declining to use the WHO health kits|0 Dont use their reported numbers for estimating growth The growth you witness in confirmed cases is more a result of increased testing capacity and not actually of the number of infected|1 also heres a nonbiased writing by a journalist about Mao and the over exaggeration of the Great Leap Forwardhttpsmonthlyrevieworgcommentarydidmaoreallykillmillionsinthegreatleapforwardit is impossible to determine the true numbers of deaths but production increased by 145 in the years following and it is highly likely that natural disasters took place as well as policy failures which were admitted and mao took the blame forAlso theres a lot ofinconsistency with the death tolls ofcommunist regimes due to the red scare falsifying numbers to terrify the US populous etcIm not saying that there werent deaths but the US is not an innocent angel either The country was born on the back of biological warfare against Native Americans look up pox blankets and such|0 Sage advice tyThere is a hard sanitizer shortage in my town in the UP of Michigan Luckily we still have dish detergent bleach laundry detergent|1 Just a warning if you get an ah just one more feeling try your hardest to resist It will make the situation worse and healing an addiction will be insanely harder if you prolong the health benefit of quitting|0 I have a friend shes 24 healthy who had the virus and she has fully recovered She had fever cough She didnt need special treatment She just stayed at home and now shes perfectly fine|1 Just think of all the vaccines shes safely avoided thanks to such a worldly father|1 Yeah thats how Im thinking too My parents are older and Im immunocompromised asthma and psoriasis I tried taking an LOA but ultimately right now I feel going to work is tantamount to committing suicideAt least if I quit and shut myself in I have a fighting chance to stay alive and even living in an apartment is a forlorn hope|1 I think this is going to be a much more significant event than SARS With the number of countries reporting patients and the report of one patient infecting 14 healthcare workers it sounds like its easily transmitted I hope Im wrong|1 sorry i meant everything as in all the schoolsCommercial activities are still going everywhere even in locked down areasThe only thing they should check is if US imposes a quarantine for people flying from italy or even stops the flights altogether unlikely but still|0 So Im getting married this upcoming weekend and were expecting around 300 guests Based on what youre saying should we go ahead and cancel the entire wedding There are no refunds being issued back so thats 35k down the drainWhat about our honeymoon There are no refunds being issued by the resort were planning on staying at Should we cancel anyways and lose all that money too|0 Dont blame the kids blame the parents My 29 year old literally knows to sanitizes her hands and to cover her mouth when she sneezes or coughs If she can do that anyone else can Granted the majority of this country USA are absent parentsWhat about the daycare centers|1 Only rich elite schools seem to be closing at the lower grade levelsThen Universities are amixed bag Dont see many state schools closing though I bet|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Thank you Im fighting the best I can right now Best wishes to you too|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 Most transmission is within the home I live with my mother who is a caretaker shes no doubt going to come into contact with someone that contracts it and bring it home leaves it on a surface and I pick it up Dont even have two restrooms or anything so I cant just cut myself a section offDoesnt mean I wont still do everything in my power to avoid it but Ive accepted I will catch it And that there is a chance I die|0 There is absolutely zero chance that over one tenth of the US population is going to need hospitalization|1 Why is everything in China so insane|0 But they got paid millions for their lost productivity|0 Or hell say he has it but since hes fine its obviously nothing to worry about|1 None of them are gone was just a rebrand they are all still in their cubicles working hard as ever|0 Nope Im at that point too I went through all the same things Now Im prepared and waiting for it to happen Not worried as much just waiting|1 Its a state funded Qatari news network Has been around for 23 years Its probably reliable for broad happenings like this but not reliable for things like case numbers treatments etcWikipediahttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAlJazeera|1 Truckers going to ports to pick up cargo mostly Chinese stuff nothing to pick up Eerily empty There was a LL video on this|0 some parts Like this shit isnt just about everywhere by now|0 Pet food is indeed quite important Lots of pet food is being processed in china I do not know the of production and which brand does what where though happy to see you being considerate and responsible|1 This Air pollution link to COVID19Implies that the air pollution CAUSES the infection wchich is absolutely false Air pollution maybe linked to HIGHER RATES of COVID19 or it may be linked to WORSE OUTCOME from COVID19 etc but it can not be linked to the infection itslef|0 Right This is a legitimate concern here some nut job is going to shoot someone over some toilet paper in a grocery store|0 Because theres things like open source ventilator projects such as httpswwwappropediaorgOpensourceventilatorhttpswwwappropediaorgOpensourceventilator Over the rest of the semester MOST and well as the MTU Open Source Hardware Enterprise will be documenting building and testing open source ventilators If you want to help please do Any help is appreciated dont just sit by the side an watchwait while all the large companies are working on these things there are plenty of people with the skills to get these projects movingAnd from this article httpswwwcbccanewscanadalondonpandemicventilatorcoronvirushospitals15493830httpswwwcbccanewscanadalondonpandemicventilatorcoronvirushospitals15493830 Strupat said that while a conventional ventilator found in a hospital costs about 25000 for one unit his design would costabout 500 aunit and with a couple of modifications could be massproduced quickly and easily At the end of the day we all want the best equipment available but when push comes to shove a 500 ventilator made by a local manufacturing company may be the only choice you have|1 I worked with foldit for a biochem project in college The draw of having a lot of people using it 3 years ago when I played it is that each person working on something eventually locks into a generic shape and you can shift it or tweak it a little bit but it becomes much harder to undo largescale folds without completely starting over Think of it like a maze its really easy to go back one or two turns but really hard to go back 50turns ago Luckily with so many people trying it sheer numbers eventually help SOMEONE get to the end of the maze It could be run on a supercomputer I suppose but having humans make the decisions to move something a certain way each time is probably hard to replicate because its not really a binary decision but a list of options you can pick at each stage that doesnt really have finite steps|1 Yorkshire pud if you ever revise and want to add the UK|1 Lets see if you still feel the same way when youre 70 and get sick and people dont care because youve already lived your life its only fair it has to end somedayIt doesnt work like that We humans are greedy For everything including time You could just as easily say 30 years is plenty of time considering thats still longer than most other animals get to live There are people who have done more with their lives by the time theyre 30 than some people by the time theyre 70 And there are 70 year olds that still learn something new find a new hobby or even find love at that age|0 They can take the temperature of my cold dead hands Murica|0 That would never work The system will not scale If things get that bad big food distribution is going to collapse entirely and you will be forced to fend for yourself|0 You need Experience Four 4 years analytical experience at the tacticaloperational level within DoD or equivalent Government agencies and requires former MOS 35F 350F 18F 35D 34A or equivalent such as USMC 0204 0210 0211 CounterintelligenceHuman Intelligence CIHUMINT Specialist 0231 Intelligence Specialist US Navy Navy Intelligence Specialist USAF 1N7X1 Human Intelligence Specialist 1N4X1 Intelligence Fusion Analyst PLUSYou could technically have an associates and do this job if you also had extensive military training That isnt shit you get trained in at a community college NONE of that is|1 Its not like our lives would change that much ttc is still full and people carry on their lives as usual At my work they still have no plan for us to work from home|0 Is that really such a bad thing I mean they have over one billion people there Thin out the herd a bit|0 The Chinese official number gets more and more suspect|0 Same I feel like people in my class werent excatly happy about this I mean I get that this is right decision better do this now than later when it gets worse but since Im graduating as well I have kinda mixed feelings about this But i know graduation will probably be fine its just stressfull and all that In the end im happy that our government is being smarter than some of the others|1 Great video thanks He seems really caught in the headlights in a lot of questions He says he wants taxes redistributed and increased for the wealthy but then when asked how to convince the richer to contribute more to taxes he says if theyre following the law its fine otherwise throw them in jail I feel that he avoided the question there which was how to increase how much taxes he himself and other wealthy people give He did not want it suggested that he gives more and seems to think that 6 million a year is OK when he makes roughly 11 BILLION per year|1 Are you still alive|1 So to actually eli5 passive immunization is somebody giving you a fish Active immunization is learning to fish The fish in this metaphor is your bodys little soldiers ability to fight the virus|1 I wish I knew I dont know her but my boss told me directly I feel like hes coming around to this being serious hes one of those its a flu people But its all everyone was talking about today I went to the crew room and its all anyone was talking about probably my last day going in there|1 This is 1000 true Currently work here A retailer at the mall|1 I guess you love your cat But if it gets bad enough that you are fighting for survival it might be time to put that thing outside and not worry about kitty litter|1 Folks get killed by not protecting others from this happening This is what happens if you dont take precautions|0 I plan to But I have an asscovering supervisor who wont approve telework until I get the go ahead from a doctor or through testing So I jumped over him to manager and got approval from her|1 It was in the news today they were running low on swabs|0 Your SIL is gluten intolerant Was she diagnosed with celiac disease by a real MD or did she read about it on Dr OzI bet you ten bucks SIL isnt even gluten intolerant Most snowflakes who claim to be gluten intolerant these days arent really gluten intolerant Was her blood test positive for antiendomysial or antitransglutaminase antibodies Did her doctor perform an EGD and take biopsies from her duodenumYou should have bought 50 pounds of dried spaghetti and wheat thins|1 What is the point of posting something like this Its all projections and estimates with very very little data This sub loves to just fuel the flame and see what happens As someone who works in Healthcare stop freaking people out|1 trump thinks we can hold off till nov 1 We gonna have 50 wuhan pretty soon|1 Youre right I just checked a demographics chart and Italy is heavily skewed to the 50 age bracket But so is Russia Japan and other countries yet we havent seen a similar high rate of deaths in those countries So Im still puzzled|0 Im in Texas and people dont think its going to get serious Some people think it can be cured with Lysol lol I have others say its not worse than the flu Ignorant |1 FYI Hospital Healthcare workers are all considered an essential service and therefore require different considerations for selfisolation after travel I work in a healthcare facility and all staff have been informed as long as they are asymptomatic they need to report to work irrespective of recent international travel One of my colleagues returned from Italy recently less than 14 days ago and was told to come back today They work directly with patients Do I agree with this No But thats the way it is in Toronto at the moment|1 Prison|0 Probably the same people saying that were the same people saying its just the flu in January everywhere but Wuhan anyway|0 Do you think an ambulance drivers in Sweden can just call off how about PoliceHow about the people at the grocery store in Sweden How do you get food when they all call off Many grocery store chains Kroger Jewel are union shouldnt they have gotten their members PTO|1 i dunno theres 3 confirmed here in france already in 2 opposite sides of the country too which means theres probably at least 1 guy out there contaminating everyone here that slipped through the cracks were a developed country and they were letting everyone through from wuhan without any checks do you think africa and india implemented better safety checks for their returning citizens do you think theres less chinese people in africa than in france |1 You have to realize many people are going to get sick Its inevitable The government is simply trying to control chaos They know whats comingUnfortunately our government structure unlike China doesnt allow us to move as quickly Great majority of the times but pimps us in othersWould you rather have them say its out of control The intelligent people of the world know|1 And If you buy one the price isnt exceeding it thats my point Theres a big difference between actual price gouging and this which is why it would not be a valid example of the claim that price gouging is a good thing|1 Whats with stupid us Indians thing Cant you speak in normal way Nobody in India speaks like that|0 We already include them in Rule 8 indeed seems to require some better text|1 Hey Im from north of Iran Actually from the most infected city in Iran rasht The truth is some motherfuckers used bleach to decolourised methanol which is a red liquid in bottles and sold it as ethanol some people used to drink the watered down pure ethanol Thats why people are dying here|0 As the parent of a 5yearold boy that is a fucking tragic story Poor little guy|0 I am looking at controlling spread of Covid19 to the larger community by preventing the spread THROUGH this population The workers in these settings are mostly women who have school age children and are not paid enough to stay home when slightly sick When outbreaks occur the staff will community spread and sick residents will then expose EMT and hospital staff Upping precautions and following flu protocol before an outbreak may be beneficial As an EMT what would steps would you suggest to prevent spread of this outbreak through this population|0 I will say as a father I worry for my childrens future|0 Michigan is still at zero although I know a few people have presented in Ann Arbor with symptoms No confirmed positive tests so far|1 Echoes of warnings|0 Of course this goes down the year I buy a Tomorrowland ticket Hoping we know a lot more about it by then mid July Have you been to EDC before|1 Human thing doesnt apply to corporations whos existence depends on cash flow Unless they end up getting financial assistance from the government dont expect free services for long from any public or private company|0 I am a nurse So my FB feed is overflowing with nurses I am so disappointed and appalled by many of them NURSES|0 Well ill say this My sister is a very likely candidate and is showing symptoms and all doctors are telling her to fuck off|0 Yeah that one gets its own term The aptly named in utero Theres even a Nirvana album about it|1 LiesHe fucking loves it when its for rich people|1 Toronto and GTA hospitals are testing anyone with fever respiratory symptoms cough sore throat etc AND recent travel to ANY country outside of Canada Its been well over a week since we have needed any public health approval Now we can order tests as liberally as we order nasopharyngeal swabs for other viruses like influenza and RSVSource Also a front line healthcare worker working in TorontoGTA|1 Its not really to protect you in particular though Im gonna be nice and say its to save the masks for the medical professionals who are a lot more likely to get in contact with COVID patients and contract the virusEither that or its just the world being ignorant|1 Enlighten us then It looks like the UK is doing a pretty bad job|1 Im stealing this but it is going to be a Doom Metal band|0 Lol 32 is nothing Id be surprised if theres less than 100 new cases 32 among the ones that were TESTED|1 This Not always as some as cancel and reschedule Yall gonna foot that bill Dont think so|0 I was also thinking a place for doctors and nurses to rant and vent A place where they could post contact info for places they wouldnt necessarily want to share with the public like where to order equipment since many have complained about having to provide their own I know medical professionals often times only respect their own so I imagined a sub where someone like me couldnt publish a random google searched document saying how cool it was I really expected to be downvoted to oblivion over this|1 First one of this magnitude and scope in 100 yearsSpoiler its not Asian Flu and hong kong was massive We also have other problems that still classifies as massive but H1N1 and AIDS Want me to go on Or you dont consider these real problems|0 Welcome to authoritarianism Horrible for freedom and ethics great for efficiency|1 Here in Seattle there was a mysterious flu flying around in late Janmid Feb that was taking out almost whole offices within a couple weeks The symptoms were slight shortness of breath exhaustion aches fever and a bad cough With very mild URI symptoms at the very end It lasted about 710 daysI know a whole ton of people that got it myself included I never get influenza and this flattened me People I know got flu tested and it came back negative Many people think CoVSARS2 has been going around weeks before it was publicly announced 68 weeks is the usual thought but Ive heard some say early Jan and that there may have been more than 1 patient zero Im not saying for sure of course Its just what Ive seen living here|0 I cant take credit for it Im on a list of people a media agency goes to when the press wants quotes on various topics The Science Media Centre httpswwwsciencemediacentreorg They put it together so we can all have an easy list to what theyre asking us to comment on Should give them the credit where its due Heres a direct link to their COVID19 page httpswwwsciencemediacentreorgtagcovid19 Ill see if I can get it added to the sidebar come to think of it|0 Mad respect to the doctors in China right now Without a doubt you know they are working endlessly while staring this monster in the face Wearing those kind of suits that prevent any kind of contamination is brutal and taxing on the body Saw some rumors of citizens removing doctors masks and spitting in their face and saying extremely savage shit While I hope it isnt true its easy to lose your sense of humanity while in panic|0 If you have runny nose its likely not covid But still would be better to get tested and know for sure At the national level thus lack of testing is a disgrace thats going to make this much much worse than it could have been|0 Woot woot|1 good for you dont let morons Bully you|1 Because as the situation has been worsening in China its apparent resources are tapped and the risk for a US citizen who would travel and contract this virus is very high The us cannot help much so does not reccomend traveling there|0 That is appalling|0 I was just curious|1 Weve wasted a month when we should have been engaging with the public We should have got a grip on this a month ago httpswwwindependentcouknewsukhomenewscoronavirusukcasesjohnashtonnhshospitalcovid19budgeta9396211htmlhttpswwwindependentcouknewsukhomenewscoronavirusukcasesjohnashtonnhshospitalcovid19budgeta9396211html|0 Its insane some countries are doubling down on claiming this virus isnt that harmful|0 This should be at the top|1 Is exercising that freedom considering complications such as STDs and pregnancies and relationship changes balanced for a 20 year future or a 3 month future Yes society breakdown is a psychological trigger Were doomed and there is no hope Slightly longer timeframe than locked in residents perhaps Nothing prudish about it|1 Eh So are you saying the right wingers were right to criticize Obama incessantly about things he had no direct control over or are you saying that the left wingers are wrong to criticize Trump incessantly about things he has no direct control overPersonally I didnt blame Obama then for crap that clearly happened without his oversight and I hold Trump to the same standard|0 An old tshirt and a bucket of warm water with a little bit of dish soap and tiny tiny amount of bleach in it can clean and disinfect just about anything around the houseWe need cleanliness We dont need Clorox wipes to get there|1 Lucky you Be nice having a company that cares about its employees|1 appropriate And the point is there is a Leap into Ocean nowadays in China which refers to building carriers warships and islands in south China sea|0 I wish you strength to the brave iranians|1 It is actually interesting to see how people like them think It allows us to try out what we can say to change their minds The problem is No one listens to an angry person so getting angry does not help But the data also does not help I think the only thing that helps is the experience of needing to go to a hospital say for delivering a baby or having had a seizure and being sent away because the hospital is infected and overcrowded|0 And now an infected worker in Brisbanes kfc|0 This makes my heart happy Kudos to that selfless redditor|1 Its not proactive anywhere in the world at this point its called reactive and its way too late|0 Im sure theyre doing that Its usually the first part of contact tracing|1 italy likely got it severe a couple weeks before it its here and we will begin seeing more deaths a week or two from now|0 Im pretty sure the stats youre quoting out of Italy are the oneday distribution for the 155 dead day Explains the non existent CFR under 50|1 Theyll start fear mongering another disease of course|0 I dont disagree Do you think Azar could step up He appears really conflicted in the press appearances to me|1 Based on the memo from Italy yesterday the length is probably also agerange dependent if the severity is yes|1 Maybe Ill finally be able to afford a place in Vancouver terrible way to make it happen though|0 Too bad the government doesnt know|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 It would be equaly useless i think US will fare better if pandemic strike individual scan organised and communities can work together Perhaps|0 Thats great but Korea doesnt have many immigrants|1 Seasonal flu is way worse argument Comparison Charts NEW TAB 2019nCoV Seasonal Fluhttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsde2PACX1vR7foz6F3faWSuuVhVbYlbUZUJQfFELzZhvnVnvwfUAyjRHI3CaOgP26vEOfLObiVOOXlxWpsGlW0Upubhtmlgid1371007428singletruehttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsde2PACX1vR7foz6F3faWSuuVhVbYlbUZUJQfFELzZhvnVnvwfUAyjRHI3CaOgP26vEOfLObiVOOXlxWpsGlW0Upubhtmlgid1371007428singletrueHere is an update of the Comparison Charts you can now choose to compare infection and mortality growths of 2019nCoV Swine Flu SARS or click the new tab to compare 2019nCoV Seasonal FluThe 2019nCoV Seasonal Flu scenario is a simulation where the Seasonal Flu just started its first outbreak at our current time as a new virus As usual both graphs start at the point of 500 infection cases confirmed by the WHO Seasonal Flu growth parameters are n013 morbidity01 see sourcesOn a personal note I agree with experts saying that Seasonal Flu is a bigger concern at the moment as hundreds of thousands of people are dying from it as we speak despite vaccinations campaigns However its important to keep in mind that 2019nCoV seems to have some disturbing proprieties Time will tell No need to panic lets stay focusFeedbacks are welcome|0 Agreed but there has to be a way to keep people home without imploding right|1 Yes that is genius|1 Its more like 910 days |1 This could largely be because these are the people denied ventilation due to lower risk of survival thus they make up the death count The TLDR is that medical equipment and beds is the thing that keeps people alive here|0 and OTC meds like ibuprofen and cough medicine|1 Im not even a conspiracy theorist but this article states we know its not manmade bc its like other coronaviruses Also the article states we cannot link it to an animal nor have we found one animal with this same virus PS we think its the bat but ya know we havent caught one with it yet|1 Remember when Xi was gone for a week They were saying that he didnt want to be perceived as weak ie wearing a mask Eventually he got on screen and wore one|0 Huh Europe has excellent healthcare and child services At least for the most part What are you on about|1 We can look at Iran where a shocking proportion of government officials are infected Does anyone know how that wound up happening|0 People can take up to 2 weeks to show symptoms Itll be very scary to see where we will be 2 weeks from now|0 Thats not something strange Thats the result of overreacted immune system which usually leads to the so called cytokine storm Very dangerousA noticeable portion of the deaths was caused by immune system overreacting instead of the viruses themselves|1 Its 20 if you count it as a part of your salary extracted from you So if you sums up salaryinsurance the insurance makes up to 20 of the total I did it like that because its easier to understand for foreigners|1 She is just a lunatic and only good for provoking headlines I watched couple of interviews of here and just shook my head listening to her stupidness Just missing that she is advocating for her green new deal communism amid the corona virusAt least she cost Bernie the primary and democrats are working to replace her seat in congress|0 I have a friend stuck in Wuhan This helps me understand his situation better|1 This is the part that I have the most questions about Are they becoming infected with a secondary strain Does the virus hide in the body by dropping to a nearly undetectable level and then resurge later Is this a normal track for this illness improving dramatically and then becoming significantly more ill as time goes on Is there no or limited immunity so that just like a cold you can catch it every 10 days or so As these types of reports pop up more and more often I have more doubt in the actual feasibility of a vaccine Especially if the problem is that there is no lasting immunity|0 I thinks the doomsday prepper label has always had negitive connotations I like being prepared its the boy scout in me I also like sustainability Im not antigovernment actually the opposite but I dont trust the government or anyone else to provide for me and my family if the shit hits the fan|1 Funny how Romney is a conservative and even funnier how people still arent happy with this|1 I think that counts as procrastination Working from home requires CONSTANT VIGILANCE for procrastination so to ensure you dont over do it and accidentally carry on afterhours in your own time|1 and then kinda sad when you realise were so used to politicians being out of touch that hearing one say people are really worried about just making rent is surprising|0 My math isnt great but I think its calculated as belowUK population around 67 million 60 of this is around 40 millionnbspnbsp1 of 40 million 400000Correct me if my math is wrong SourcesWorldometer|0 Im guessing because Alaska and Hawaii are pretty much isolated to themselves|1 Pretty outrageous speculation tbh|1 Apparently Chinese media has claimed case 11 was a fabrication claiming he wasnt showing symptoms while in ChinaIn reponse my boy of all boys and head of Taiwans CDC said Thats funny in Taiwan we take scientific examination as a standard if we only looked at symptoms wed be just another WuhanSourcehttpsnewtalktwnewsview20200207363673httpswwwchinatimescomamprealtimenews20200207004494260405Unfortunately I couldnt find the original source of Chinese media making such claims so do with it what you will|1 Reddit China exists therefore it is wrong|0 Meanwhile Gen X justtheretrying to be positive but also realistic and reminding everyone to wash their hands|1 Testing of patients in Northern Ireland has resulted in two further presumptive positive results for coronavirus Covid19 bringing the total to three since testing began 040320 assuming this hasnt changed we have 3 no update of any more at this time|1 they like to hide behind privacy laws amazing how deceitful our government is we wont even test people|1 Maybe I will die from it and stop all of the stupid jokes in my social circle|0 The 100year sub is worth it alone for the pickup I love Superstore and this makes me even more happy to support the service Maybe this will become a more common thing when people realize how good their service is|1 I am european and we have deductibles moron|0 Theyre producing at scale because its more cost efficient if you want to talk about money Again youre still projecting your assumptions that there is a need when we dont even know the facts yetPlease just go to rCoronavirus dude this sub isnt for you|1 This is like 911 type stress|0 Good call|1 The best doomsday prepper plan is to have a squad of 4 or more guys with guns loot the neighborhood|1 Current society doesnt seem to care about anything until its too lateYou know how dangerous an intersection is but you dont put up a stop sign or red light until someone gets killed |0 If only we had doctors announcing thisCDC in the US and the Helth Minister of Canada arent sounding any alarms rn Theyve had months to prepare their respective countries An earlt doctrine of prepared and aware would probably have had less impact on markets than all this uncertainty|1 Its an incentive for people to take more turns which is a good way to spread the virus|1 Ah how delightful a race baiter a far more dangerous and disgusting attribute than poor personal hygieneAsia is not dirty Japan is very cleanParts of Asia are dirty and so are some Asians as can be evidenced by life expectancy and while an Indian in a Mumbai slum can do very little to improve their cleanliness you my friend are definitely capable of preventing your racism|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 It could be argued that China is about to enter their 2nd turning as allegiance to the state and sense of national purpose is eroded by this tragedy Even if that unity is largely mandated by an overarching communist regime|0 ECCC is at least finally now offering people who decide not to attend refundsI hope they take the next step and refund exhibitors who pull out|1 Yes just confirmed cases that I know of but another source of information during a time of a lot of uncertainties|0 Its getting better Since Governor Cuomo has been focused on the prison system things have vastly improved it just takes time|1 Have fun with your cruises|1 Yes 100 agree Lets remove these MOFOs from office in November|1 Meanwhile upcoming Dem nominee Joe Biden is saying on live TV that single payer doesnt help to stop coronavirus because people in Italy are sick a dumb GOPesque argument Newt would have probably used years ago continuing the fever dreamedit my point is really just that its funny that Joe is flirting right and Newt is flirting left Im not really interested in repeating why the argument is also dumb over and over it should be obvious|0 Mongols will pay for it|0 Even if we dont get sick my husband and I work in the service industry and rely on tips Our main business is from college kids and we heard last night that they probably wont be returning from spring break I honestly dont know what were going to do|1 Well there goes the rest of the NBA season|1 But theyll be restocked soon We have lots of consumer staples coming in all the time And what if supply side gets worse Companies will be surprisingly quick to change suppliers or change materials even in a supply shock Just give it all a bit of time|0 The fact they are building hospitals Its easy enough to assume the spectrum of symptomatic infected arent getting the proper care they need But the hospitals they are building is enough evidence to me that not all are getting what they need Why build them if that wasnt the case|1 A social Democrat with a fetish for a bureaucratic degeneration of a transitional state between capitalism and communism In a similar vein most stalinists of the early 60s became social democrats in the decades to follow especially after the demise of the soviet union which actual communists were warning was the direction it was going to go in since day one Lenin and Trotsky if the revolution didnt spread to a more developed country like Germany soon The definitions for political economic systems have to mean something otherwise whats the point of calling stuff by those names Plus unlike past systems people have to get it to do it and to get it you have to know the words for it|1 thank you for your kind words |1 But it hasnt spread so farThese are likely imported cases and a handful of spread between people because under certain conditions the virus is able to spread weak immune system air conditioning wet conditions etc|1 I have a Costco pack of toilet paper so I think I should be good for about two months I kinda wanna pick up another one and canned goods though but I am unsure on the canned goods part Im in Kansas City also|0 Everything is as real or not real as you believe it Except for karma That shit is real|0 I hear you Lets not fail the next time|1 I saw Tedros telling countries to act Act act act talking about a window of opportunity before it was too late talking about the tip of the iceberg the spark that becomes a bigger fire Stop blaming the guy It has no power He cant impose anything on countries Countries do nothing|0 Trash map for people not following the situation to look at lol|1 I am most worried about the kids who are on reduced or free lunches Without School are they going to go hungryAnd in that makes me mad at billionaires again How dare they keep collecting wealth For No Good Reason while kids are starving|0 Just in time for St Pats Day Thank you Ireland|1 So the kids go home and many have to be taken care of by their grandparents due to parents working Not see why this might be an issue|1 Fantastic response I needed to read this as well so thank you for taking the time out of your day to do this as you helped a random stranger sleep a little better While Im not panicking or having anxiety attacks around this I did have a few brief flashes of deep fear pangs when I kept seeing these numbers climb higher and higher in the US and around the world and wondering when does this end is this going to kill 50 million people Of course thats a possibility and I need to let go into the mystery that we truly need to take this day by day because theres no reason to assume that and that we are gaining more and more examples of this virus being less fatal than originally anticipated|1 No its not|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 It would rob me of the change to say a proper calm goodbye to my loved onesThe vast majority of people dont get this luxury either Its typically a sudden heartbrain problem or a bad fall or some such Then youre whisked off to hospital and die within 24 hours under before most relatives can get to you and all the while youre breathing through a tube unable to communicateSay what you need to say before its your time|0 Student loan debt bubble for sure is going to pop next if no one can pay their basic bills|0 Seems that they are as quick with tests release as american government Why none of these rich people who pretend to do stuff cant just buy tests from Germany and distribute them to hospitals bypassing CDC Because by the time they will have that kit ready it will be game over because most people will be sick Gates always does it its all talking and showing numbers|0 This is one of my sisters kids teachers shes calling us about how worried she is I really hope it doesnt get too bad|1 Nah calm down I live in Korea Things are normal Everyones still going to work most schools are still in session and the trains are running on time People are concerned here but they mostly just talk about it No ones really changed their behavior muchComparing this to Chernobyl is just fearmongeringEdit just saw the new numbers now Im scared my friends are too Churches are being canceled|0 good|1 Here is the WHOs public definition of pandemicIm not a virus scientist Dr guy But this seems like a pandemic to mehttpswwwwhointcsrdiseaseswineflufrequentlyaskedquestionspandemicenA pandemic is the worldwide spread of a new diseaseAn influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus emerges and spreads around the world and most people do not have immunity Viruses that have caused past pandemics typically originated from animal influenza virusesSome aspects of influenza pandemics can appear similar to seasonal influenza while other characteristics may be quite different For example both seasonal and pandemic influenza can cause infections in all age groups and most cases will result in selflimited illness in which the person recovers fully without treatment However typical seasonal influenza causes most of its deaths among the elderly while other severe cases occur most commonly in people with a variety of medical conditionsBy contrast this H1N1 pandemic caused most of its severe or fatal disease in younger people both those with chronic conditions as well as healthy persons and caused many more cases of viral pneumonia than is normally seen with seasonal influenzaFor both seasonal and pandemic influenza the total number of people who get severely ill can vary However the impact or severity tends to be higher in pandemics in part because of the much larger number of people in the population who lack preexisting immunity to the new virus When a large portion of the population is infected even if the proportion of those infected that go on to develop severe disease is small the total number of severe cases can be quite largeFor both seasonal and pandemic influenza the highest levels of activity would be expected to occur in the usual influenza season period for an area In the temperate climate zones this is usually the winter months for example But as was seen with the current H1N1 pandemic pandemics can have unusual epidemiological patterns and large outbreaks can occur in the summer months|0 Unless I am hospitalised I will not get any sick pay from my work and cant afford to go 7 days without any pay And I am sure I am not the only person in the UK in this situation|1 Well shit we had limited information and very few minutes to make a decision|0 My local Facebook page is overflowing with offers to cook meals deliver shopping walk dogs or just chat on the phone There is a lot of negative and worrying news but the kindness of communities is wonderful|1 Nothing would surprise me at this stage Im kind of convinced this is psychological Theyve seen everyone kick off about lack of action they are making us want it instead of being told to do it Maybe will make us more compliant|0 This is wonderful and is warming my heart This is a sign of unity and support no matter what the situation|1 We were all in a line of cars directly outside the ER and they walked up to the cars to perform a temperature check blood pressure and swabbed our nose It was surreal and like something out of a movie|1 You know I was saying that too but just taking a high level view at whats going on the language used and some of their actions I dont think turning off local economies is off the table I think its highly problematic and it would probably be voiced more as were instructing nonessential business to shut down and highly urge everyone to stay home but I think the possibility is there Once all businesses are shut down whats the point in leaving the house anywayThey have suggested over the past few weeks that people prepare and sprinkled in the idea of having supplies on hand when asked about shutting down cities in the past the answer was that all options are being considered and now the meetings related to response are classified which would make sense as leaking the idea would cause panic and people to start moving around negating any pointIm not going to comment in the logistics of such a move or whether I trust out government to get it right I dont even want to think about that|0 This guy is a political hack Cant help himself|0 That is another part WHO and CDC using those numbers for their analysis the CCP must be laughing their asses off|1 Fing morons and greedy bustardsThe United States Of Lie and GreedCanada all mortgages payments rent credit cards utilities etc canceled or postponedEurope same compensation for ALL workers free MOBILE INTERNET FREE HOME INTERNET FREE AMAZON PRIME VIDEOMUSIC some countries etcUkraine every citizens mandatory insurance including IN A CASE OF QUARANTINE THERE WILL BE MONETARY COMPENSATION PAIDUnited States 5080 billions for businesses GEICO CAPITAL ONE CITI TD SANTANDER TMOBILE almost every businesses that we own regular payments we limiting operation BUT YOU CAN TRY TO call us if you need help with your payment Nobody will respond or youll wait for hours to be dropped by representative who thinks maam is offensiveHAPPY SATURDAY EVERYBODYPS CALL YOUR SENATOR AND ASK THEM WHY IN SHITHOLE COUNTRIES CONDITIONS ARE BETTER THAN IN GREAT GREAT USA|1 Im currently working on compiling a timeline of company responses to the crisis both good and bad to be released to consumers at a later dateFeel free to DM me any information on companies either positively or negatively effecting both their employees and consumers|1 What rich person is buying that hand sanitizer|1 anyone know where to find a list of companies that have travel restrictions in place would be helpful to me and my work thank you in advance for any help|1 Are the tests faulty or are staff not following proper procedures during sample collectiontesting Lots of possibilities here before people freak out|0 Mac address Yeah you can randomize it in windows and specifically assign one in linux|1 Well I dunno are they the scary guys from Kandahar or the 19 year olds Because you know Im probably not gonna argue with the JTF2 guy when he says go home I know JTF2 doesnt get deployed on shit like that but you get the point I dont think those protestors have any idea what theyre doing a little hard nudging would work wonders but that just not something our glorious leader has any stomach for|0 Hell be taking a rest from all his rest|0 Agreed Phone networks and ISPs are obviously struggling to balance the load a bit my team and I have noticed a few dropouts etc recently but appreciate there will be a lot of engineers working overtime to keep the wheels turning and we salute you|1 Took me a second to understand that you are implying Facebook is a spyware lol|1 I went to Costco yesterday and it was crazy It felt very apocalyptic in there There were so many people that they had a cart shortage It was crazy seeing so many people in the store many wearing masks but the eerie part to me was how quiet it was in there|0 Holy shit I think its the conflicting info coming at us from people we should be able to trust|0 No I dont mind being vindicatedIts the fact that so many people including people I know cant seem to realize that they were wrong about this thing that drives me crazy|0 Does this mean people with RA that are not taking treatment are at higher risk of a cytokine storm if they catch covid19 I have ankylosing spondylitis and I did not started treatment yet so Im worried if I catch this virus how it will affect me Im 23|0 We should be living as happily and safely as we can before things get bad Normally I am up way early to watchphotograph the sunrise over beautiful places in the Midwest but I cant make myself get up and out Im not afraid of catching the virus while out at these remote locations I just cant get past being stressed and wanting to curl up and veg|1 It sounds like your mother doesnt want you to worry and is playing down her worry when talking to you but this isnt helping much if youre getting mixed messages from her and your sister Are they closer to cases than you are so that stocking up for potential quarantine might be more rationale for them than for you right now Have you talked to her directly about whether they will come or not and what you might do if they dont You could have a plan b where you set up some fun interactive activities over Skype or FaceTime etc such as playing board games if you both have the same game at each end of the conversation or watching the same movie and talking about it as if you were in the same room Not travelling doesnt have to mean you lose the time together you would have had you can still interact It might not be quite the same but it would be better than nothing and wouldnt leave you alone on the weekend you were hoping to see them|1 So Florida will average 1 new patient an hour and one death a day over the next 24 hours|0 Or the Same Francisco PlaguehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSanFranciscoplagueof1900E280931904The epidemic was recognized by medical authorities in March 1900 but its existence was denied for more than two years by Californias GovernorHenry GagehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiHenryGage His denial was based on business reasons to protect the reputations of San Francisco and California and to prevent the loss of revenue due to quarantine The failure to act quickly may have allowed the disease to establish itself among local animal populations|0 Yo hold up this thing went from cold and fever to straight death flags And holy shit it evolved that much in just some months Are we about to face human extinction|0 When youre infected by an incredibly deadly virus but you lived through too much to let that kill you|0 Recovering from brain surgery and on selfquarantine in Seattle I am terrified|0 Who gives a fuck what this idiot says Seriously she is nothing more than a loudmouth activist|0 R0cannot be modified through vaccination campaignsAlthough the removal of susceptible members from the population will affect infection transmission by reducing the number of effective contacts between infectious and susceptible persons this activity will technically not reduce the R0value because the definition of R0includes the assumption of a completely susceptible populationEmphasis mine Sourcehttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle251171901articlVaccination rates dont change R0Edit If you disagree youre going to need to provide a source for your claim R0 tells you percentage of the population that needs to vaccinated to provide herd immunity but it doesnt change the R0|1 My husband was like What do you watch all day for that to come upI was like you can look at my history We had a good laughI refreshed it a few times and got Viagra ads and then granola bars that I did look up on Amazon which made sense|1 That will get messy in a mask but alright|1 What stability Still going up as fast as the testing kits allow|1 The guidelines published by the Chinese national health commission classifies the patients into 4 categories 1 Mildminor symptom CT scan not showing infection2 RegularFever and respiratory tract symptoms CT showing signs of infection3 Severeblood oxygen93 or artery oxygen partial pressure300mmHg4 CriticalShock mechanical ventilation required respiratory failure andor organ failure80 patients are either Mild or Regular with most being RegularSource Original Chinese document httpswwwcmaorgcnmoduledownloaddownfilejspclassid0filename68ff872bf68448e49b553037b3e2fe05pdfhttpswwwcmaorgcnmoduledownloaddownfilejspclassid0filename68ff872bf68448e49b553037b3e2fe05pdf translation httpswwwchinalawtranslatecomencoronavirustreatmentplan7httpswwwchinalawtranslatecomencoronavirustreatmentplan7|0 Twitter may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial accountshttpshelptwittercomenmanagingyouraccountabouttwitterverifiedaccountsRemember that anyone can write whatever they want to on Twitter and that Twitter content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Good question I want to know as well|1 Did you have an argument to make|0 I agree its a joke because lets be honest if anyone of us or our family members were experiencing the worst case scenario symptoms your not going to sit at home waiting hour for someone to turn up and test usWere going to go to hospital and demand emergency care and rightfully so its what we pay taxes forOr maybe Im just selfish|0 For the DoD at least we have CONPLANs that specify what conditions need to be met before a pandemic is declared These are not the same conditions at the publicDoDs could be for example an infection rate of This helps us forecast things like evacuating families and requesting forces to keep out defense missions going|1 Thats probably best left to a second post These are stats youre talking about analysis|1 Please keep us posted|1 There will come a time when they wont be tracing anything Above a certain number no way you can have the resources needed for that|1 Not with this administration youll either resign when he tells you to or youll have your name dragged through the mud and then be told to|0 The mods are shit They take down actual information and let all the fear mongering posts stay up with ZERO controls to stop people posting misleading articles Now this sub is in meltdown and thinks the government is trying to kill us|0 Has anyone ever told you that life would be easy|1 i think the fatality rate is different w treatment as opposed to wo treatmeant|0 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpswwwvoanewscomeastasiapacificihaveobligationspeakdead reduced by 94 Im a bot quotThe coronavirus outbreak changed Tu Long No longer does he want to belong to thequotsilent majorityquot of the prosperous quotTu Long039s dream was to become a journalist He studied hard and was admitted to the top journalism school in China where he soon realized his dream could not be achieved in China quotTu Long said he has always told his friends overseas that they need to distinguish between the CCP or Chinese Communist Party and China and the Chinese people Recently he has been thinkingquotNo actually those can039t be separatedExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsfiphnzihavetheobligationtospeakforthedeadyoung FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 476422 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords Long1 China2 Chinese3 people4 want5|1 Italy has said many times that for a while now theyre primarily testing the serious cases At this point in the outbreak testing the entire population its less crucial as its already so widespread Theyre well past the containment phase|1 Oop I missed that thank you for sharing And I agree we should be holding government to full accountability At the same time we should have some compassion for the fact that they are humans and dealing with this shit show every day like the rest of us Theres no playbook for pandemic Canada has phenomenal medical researchers and institutions and those we can and should trustOur media and politicians are certainly flawed but we need them now and should be finding ways to promote truth not stoke angerfear|1 This video has nothing to do with Corona virus Any reposter fuck change my mind|0 Very tragic and sad |0 If we do precautions and no one gets it all these naysayers will be like I told you soIf we dont theyll blame everyone but themselves for lying not doing something etc|0 Im glad that it helpedlike others have suggested if it gets overwhelming its ok to disconnect from all the hype for a little Best wishes to you and yours |1 Perhaps but better late than never To be honest I think the government saw the writing on the wall with Italys rapid decline It has proved beyond any doubt that a reactive strategy is far too dangerous and can overwhelm a countrys entire health infrastructure when a casualty surge becomes unmanageable South Korea is appearing to be the gold standard so far getting their outbreak somewhat under control through heavy proactive testing isolation and effective treatment management plans It makes sense to copy whats working|0 Ironic is that a lot of the food the dutch eat does not actually come from dutch farmers That food is mostly exported to other countries like the US european countries|1 Do we think theyre doing a better job testing dead people Dr Fauci already admitted in congressional testimony that they know that deaths have occurred that havent been correctly attributed to COVID19In about a week this may be a viable option though since I think it may be obvious at that point|0 Restaurant workers cant afford to miss work In fact most people cant If youre concerned with getting his DONT GO OUT TO EAT Several people touch your food No matter if theyre wearing gloves or not their faces are uncovered Thats even before your server touches it|0 when you say Covid19 instead of Coronavirus to sound smart|1 Thats a good one|1 No Coronavirus reports or no Coronavirus testing|0 You wont regret it bidetmasterrace|1 I just realized what really matters is whether its 100 per crematorium per day or 100 per day for the whole city|1 Canadas Trudeau certainly does|1 Yeah that seems to be the case The large numbers of false negatives was already a known issue|1 Whats up with you guys who gives a flying f about China China lied Japan lies ITA didnt react US doesnt test UKGERFRA move like snails Eastern Europe is woefully unprepared lets not even talk about AfricaAt least they got it under control It hasnt even blown up in the west yet and it aint over till the fat lady sings Already today Id rather be in China than in Europe|0 Look whos a socialist now their cancer of a system is crumbling|0 I have never heard of this before and am intrigued Not questioning you but I never would have thought that having lower child mortality rates would actually mean less children I cant really see the real world application of that but if the numbers are there who am I to sayInteresting stuff|0 Dont blame you one bit|1 I hate that mode So unrealistic s|0 The problem with Italys ban is you can always just fly to any other Schegen country and go to Italy then they have no checks where youve been before|0 Theyre making a statement live on BBC news nowLets keep our fingers crossed that this puts pressure on our government to do the same thing|0 I dont think this virus cares how many we test Its got a job to do and its vey busy|1 except that 80 WONT get it if we do the RIGHT precautions In Hubei the province of Wuhan population 60m there are less than 150k total cases And its controlled So theres no reason for more than 1 to get it and only 1 of those to dieIf it is any worse than that it is because authorities from local to national screwed up|0 Propranalol can assist here believe it blocks adrenalines effect on heartrate and probably thus also blood pressureThough read this httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffxc0utopcoronavirusdoctorinwuhansayshighbloodfk1qmj1utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffxc0utopcoronavirusdoctorinwuhansayshighbloodfk1qmj1utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xMedication that increases availability of ACE2 receptors may increase risks for the virus Blood pressure medications can do this Though I dont think propranalol does Edit Blood pressure medication that may increase risks with the virus are ACE inhibitors due to increasing the availability of ACE2 receptors for the virus to bind to|0 Super sorry to hear about thishope your dad is comfortable during this time and doesnt have to deal with any of this Its for people like him that we need to do our best to selfisolatequarantine as silly as it seems to someThanks for the well wishes|1 I suspect its not about the virus but our immunityAccording to research published in the Journal of Nutrition and Metabolism the Middle East and North African regions have a very high rate of vitamin D deficiency which reaches 81 percent among various age groups Source httpswwwarabnewscomnode1508576foodhealthhttpswwwarabnewscomnode1508576foodhealth|1 Iger was planned He is staying on in a lower capacity for transition I saw it in a shareholder thing recently Dont know about the others|0 You can usually get a grasp on these by reading them more slowly separating long adjective chains and expanding the language Something like thisIndeed the clinically proven serine protease inhibitor camostat mesylate The drug Camostat mesylate passed clinical trials Those trials showed that it inhibits serine Serine is a protease meaning it cuts a protein Cutting is sometimes important for making proteins functional and sometimes important for destroying bad proteins Which of those applies here must be inferred from context which is active against TMPRSS2 heres the context it works against TMPRSS2 Kawase et al 2012 reference to a study saying as muchpartially blocked SARS2Sdriven entry lowered the success rate for infecting cells SARS2S is the virus so driven entry would mean that they attached something they could see to the virus and then if that thing got into cells the virus was the thing driving entryinto Caco2 Figure S3 B and VeroTMPRSS2 cells Figure 4A for 2 types of cells with TMPRSS2 in the name this is probably a cell line specifically designed to either have TMPRSS2 on it when it normally wouldnt or to have more TMPRSS2 than normalFull inhibition was attained when camostat mesylate and E64d an inhibitor of CatBL were added Figure 4A Figure S3Bthey were able to drive the infection rate to zero in the lab if they used two different drugs together The second drug inhibits an infection method called CatBL instead of TMPRSS2 indicating that SARS2S can use both CatBL as well as TMPRSS2 for priming in these cell lines Just mentally replace priming with being able to get into the cell and this should be fairly clear In contrast camostat mesylate did not interfere with SARS2Sdriven entry into the TMPRSS2 cell lines 293T Figure S3B and Vero Figure 4ASome cell lines werent protected by camostat mesylatewhich was efficiently blocked by E64d and therefore is CatBL dependentBut the earlier combod drug did protect them from which we can infer the method of infection in those cells|0 You might want to go ahead and line up right now they open in 12 hours Might as well try to be the first in line for whatever they have in stock|1 The companies I manage didnt want to purchase a terminal server because moneyNow they suddenly want it and they want it now like Im so magician who can procure the stuff out of nowhere and immediately set it up for them MonkaS|1 Thats what Im thinking Ive prepped but fuck this shit I need to go back home Let the virus have California|0 Its in case there are supply problems later on Its starting to sink in this isnt just a couple weeks|0 Its not indicative regardless False negatives are common relapses are possible and PCR may well detect nonviable RNA fragments And to top that off immunity is not a strict binary you can have a degree of immunity that doesnt repel every single infection but makes them weakerRumors are of no benefit in a time of crisis|0 Grabbed by Chinese students and sent back to ChinaJust joking |1 A bigger economic crash than 2008 might do it|0 Sorry I missed the word wipes You are correct|0 Its all wealth transfer for the well connected|1 Yeah the real problem comes up when you consider there could be long term problems from getting the coronavirus Letting 60 of the population potentially cripple their future health isnt a good idea|0 Yes but China was the first to be hit by this one Every other country had warning Parts of Asia even deserve some leniency because it was out before they had time The western world though The US response No no leniency They have had months We have all seen this coming for months There is 0 excuses when you see the car coming and dont hit the breaks|0 So what you are saying is due to their humanity violations they are feeling the wrath of God Im not a believer but I can get behind the sentiment Karma is a bitch|0 That is weird too|0 What Im wondering about are there any studies showing if zinc has any influence on immune system for people without deficiency Does having more zinc than the required minimum help or doesnt it change anything Or maybe its harmful Would organism just throw away the excess|1 What are the streets like Do you see troops and medical personnel on the street Do you know anyone who was personally infected What about food Are any restaurants or eateries still open or is it just supermarkets|0 No it wont it will be a statistical outlier|0 Better yet get medically trained workingclass people in there Youll suddenly start seeing WHO acting in the interests of the people|1 httpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirushttpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirus We have tested over 11000 people to find 180 cases That is better than South Korea For every 61 tests 1 has COVID19 and 60 have the flu or the cold|1 Not to mention that in a country the size of China with its population you are bound to get 100s if not 1000s of cremations a day from a variety of causes 14 billion people some of them are going to die every single day and the usual means of burial in China is cremation|0 I agree with you I was addressing the other statement the previous commenter made human right to life beats property rights I asked them if this gives the government the right to go into anyones residents and confiscate their property|1 I dont know man I wont be back at work until at least March I can only hope it doesnt get worse but I know that theres already plenty of diseases people get that can be passed on the metro If anything the paranoia it has caused for people is a good thing as it is forcing people to reevaluate how they carry themselves in public Maybe not Maybe people will continue on with their poor hygiene but I try to be more positiveAside from not going out except to walk the dog life is fine here I have a young baby at home so its not like I was going out regularly anyway People are scared They are doing things to protect themselves And ironically the biggest thing that is preached to protect oneself wear a mask is actually for the protection of others Wouldnt it be wonderful if the government was using reverse psychology on its people to get them to protect each other Sure theres the odd person that sneezes everywhere but it seems that most people are taking this very seriously and are trying to help the containment effortIm happy for you Feeling safe is important Im sad for the people of Wuhan that have it way worse than us and are dying and living in fear We are acting essentially as we would if we were in Wuhan but its nice to know its at least currently not nearly as pervasive as it is there Im also sad for the shit my friends are going thru trying to get back to their normal lives and their loved ones|1 Law firm here Pretty nonessential given that the courts will all soon stop all non criminal cases anyway I had to take a few days off to reassess and now they are offering a night shift Ill take that now but Im basically running out the clock until the whole thing shuts down Its ridiculous that we all have to delay the inevitable and risk our lives on the delusion that this will magically go away or isnt a serious problem|0 Side quest take two weeks to play through the game and all DLCHey if I was quarantined Id do it Although Im not sure two weeks would be enough time|1 Good this is why I made it Im pretty sure the government will know these figures but its not the kind of thing they would share to the public and the academics are stuck behind a pay wall Ill spare you my rant|0 I like what I see Especially having the site in so many languages Ive had experience in that its very hard to get right Good on yall|1 Pence surprisingly is 60 close to Obamas 58 But Hillary and Pelosi are again over 70|1 and the reason its underfunded is because they dont want the CDC to perform research on gun violence Politicians are bought and paid for by the NRA so they are directly responsible for the US being unprepared for the pandemic|0 I have to take the Bart to work an I screwed or should I wear a mask|0 If its impossible in China it will be impossible anywhere unless we shut down air travel There are too many countries that still allow flights from China and people can just get a Jew ticket different airline and there is no record they were in China much Wuhan and will be infecting everyone along the way|0 The medical stuff need protection the most If they get sickwho will be there to treat infected people Not to mention patients with other illnesses|0 Shh you cant criticise that here|1 China has been ramping up production though China produced 20Mday in early February and 116Mday by the end of February 200Mday by end of March is definitely doable There will be enough for everyone pretty soon|1 My husband teaches in Ontario and he says everyone is finally taking it seriously The teachers have indeed cancelled their plans All it will take though is one single family from the school going on vacation especially to the states Just one kid can end up infecting dozens who will infect more themselves|0 This is horrifying|0 I also have OCD Youre not sounding too dramatic to me If you want to discuss this privately I know where youre coming from so I can try to offer some support|1 Healthcare employee here too Our organization has been doing PPE drills and has enacted a coronavirus plan I dont know why people keep insisting that US hospitals arent preparing Theyve been on it since this first started Now Im in a major metropolitan area so Im not sure about the more rural healthcare sites but still|0 Because when they both get sick people wont trust the tests But when did they ever care about getting caught in a lie So I guess youve got a point|0 Then youre repeating a conspiracy theory|0 Damn This Trudeauly sucks|0 Keep your health in other ways Its too soon to tell what regions its going to reach but keep your head up unCoronavirus2019 Concern is natural|1 Agreed How can wishing ANY SOUL death be positive We need to learn to love one another and get through this all as a team and not be so crude|1 For it to flatten out it basically needs to have infected a huge percentage of the population I think the flattening in China is either due to most of the people in wuhan getting infected maybe the virus being effectively contained not likely or because they havent tested everyone almost certainly this Theres still a lot more growth potential there and it doesnt seem like people are exactly resistant to the virus In terms of world population infected its probably less than 1 This will be exponential for a while and once its into places like India and africa its gonna explode|0 Imagine being as dumb as you|0 My sister works for a cruise line She says there are people who have strong immune systems who dont get sick themselves but carry the illness to those around them Certain crew members who are very healthy will have an outbreak specific to the rooms they clean indicating that they are symptomfree and sick but vectors for an illness After a consistent outbreak is documented they are quarantined for 14 days and suddenly their rooms stop being infected Perhaps you are one of those people who dont always show symptoms when youre ill|0 All of the things Trump refuses to say Probably won himself the presidency just by actually acknowledging the problem|1 Regardless of how many have no or mild symptoms if the number of serious and critical are high enough to overwhelm the hospitals its very concerning|0 Oregon reporting herenew cases jumping out of nowhere tonight Everyone I know is walking around like everything is normal But I have a feeling Ill be out of work and home with our kids by midweek When people wake up tomorrow and see the news that its in Portland things will shift quickly|1 I want to see someone break down the mortality rate of the different flu strains rather than lumping them all together Comparing a specific virus against a family of viruses doesnt make sense|0 Lol arguing with those idiots are like arguing with frogs|0 Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock Will Rogers|1 Great reference|1 Cause of death Viral Pneumonia is probably closer to the truth|0 I had a similar bill for an ER visit back in November for chest pain heart palpitations hbp and pulse Received no treatment just EKG and bloodworkUnfortunately this is what it costs just to be seen at an ER no matter what youre there for|0 My thoughts are that many countries are downplaying the threat publicly but quietly prepping like the worst doomer Except Cambodia theyre partying with infectedAs soon as you acknowledge publically that it could be awful youll see scenes like Hong Kong|0 Loll what a waste of money|0 Dont worry no one in France is wearing masks either|1 Unfortunately this would require all elements of the supply chain not to be disrupted Im not saying its a bad idea but with the way everything is done to save this would be incredibly expensive and wasteful|1 Im sure they would if they could but its a hotel so working from home isnt really an option and theyll be damned before they shut their doors|0 That would be the issue People trained in ICU Which would mean The army People in training People willing to take a crash course Though its oxygen most patients need and anyone can put that on People coming out of retirement And some long hours It can be done Just takes the will and a pair of hairy ones to get going|0 What a douchebag Sorry|0 Lmaooo Im a Bernie supporter but you tried Im just saying some people on both sides of the political aisle have not handled covid19 as well as they couldve|1 Counterpoint The more people are infected the more people will have recovered So the number by itself does not make the good news Im sure by June hundreds of thousands of people will have recovered but where will the number of active cases be |1 That was really sad to read Stay safe dude|0 Im so happy to be a dirty socialist Canadian with free healthcare|1 Are the cases on the diamond princess not from aerosolized transmission|1 I agree|1 Honestly as someone with health issues that cause my immune system to be weakened But without a proper diagnosis it scares me that if I get sick I will probably get seriously ill|0 Starting from Feb Chinese social media has been bombarded with messages against consumption of wild animals either for delicacy or medicine The difference between this time and the normal wildlife fund type messages is that it is far more harsh and meant to shame those people that eattrade wildlife For eg in the past it is something like stop buying them save the poor animals for our Earth Now it is more like eat that pagolin your whole family will die men who eat illegal wild animals gonna get cuckolded and have ED New media and young people on social media are eager to shame humiliate and even doxx not saying thas good people who eat illegal wild animals Hopefully this will result in a real shift in culture and I think the young generation is already 100 onboard|0 Im immunocompromised as well and I work in a school so I am on super high alert right now|1 Hope nobody gets jostled around in there|1 Havent you heard only racists get the plague Its the new sinners|0 Ultra selfish person not concerned at all that this kid was in critical condition and will mean many other kids will be too all over the world|0 I definitely agree the government needs to step in and make sure people are provided for I would be all for closing nonessential businesses if they were doing that Until then were on our own And no I dont think large corporations like Kohls or Michaels give a crap about their employees Most large corporations could probably afford to give employees paid leave at this time and if so they should shut down and do so Its small local businesses that are going to be in a bind|1 If they havent been bothering her and arent making trouble for other teeth in her mouth then waiting another 16 months will not make a difference Complications can happen during and extraction and some issuelike damage to the roof of the mouth are beyond what a regular dental surgery can fix and will mean having to go to the ER|1 I believe it is most pertinent to look at the statistics of what we do knowIf you correlate the incubation period of the virus compared to the rate of spread compared to the exposure potential of Americas international connections via travel and import compared to the CDCs admittance that they are ill equipped to handle the situation figures stated as around 1 of needed resources Compared to how far spread it has become globally even under the unprecedented attempts at quarantine within China compared to the dismally low testing numbers done in America compared to the infection rates globally and the time it has taken for those figures to begin to emerge given incubation periodWhat picture does it paintIt is an incredibly virulent virus with an undetectable incubation period of at least 2 weeks America is massively under testing its populace so estimates are going to be hugely under true figures The population isnt responding in a manner China or Italy or Iran have There are already multiple infections cropping up keep in mind these will be from before an incubation period so where exposed to it in america around the time the wuhan situation reached world news How many people have those initial cases exposed to the virus How many more are going to appear in the next few weeks even before you factor in the exponential rate of exposure from those not yet figured in to the known figuresTheres no two ways about it Its going to be worse in america than it was in China unless america does some serious preventative measures which it wont given the CDC has basically deferred the responsibility to state authorities the medical industry is comparatively very fractured and inefficient and largely private market driven driving up the rates of ineffective treatment and prevention and the establishment is approaching things from an economy first perspectiveWhen you correlate all factors it paints a picture that yes an individual case may contradict but induction fallacy The bigger picture paints a very different narrative to your impressions from your individual position You may have been lucky which cool but the macro effect of this thing and the kind of response being generated simply isnt realistically enough to prevent a rate of infection far higher than what happened in ChinaWell come back in a few weeks have review the figures I hope Im wrong|1 Then youre all good Back to the original topicWhy do we need testingTheres only a 10 chance of infection if someone in your household is infectedYou really havent done much self education on this topic Youre just here to cry fire in a crowded movies theater|1 Im lucky I rolled everything out of the market the day after it hit its all time high and its in money markets now which shouldnt be hit as hard Still afraid to check it but whatever wasnt like I was ever going to get to retire anyway|0 The figures are a fantasy everywhere sonny The UK just stopped testing mild cases of the disease The one figure that is hard to hide is ongoing burial of the dead because it leaks out China is still locked down in some places and back to normal in others if you care to take a look at foreigners who post to YouTube They will be playing cat and mouse for some time but have largely kept it out of most of China We could have done the same we should have isolated all foriegn travelers for 14 days the moment we knew about the virus in January Even up to a week or two ago this might have helped Now we are Wuhan we are Italy and we are going to die in significant numbers for some time to come depending on what the government does next|0 The CDC reported their test is highly sensitive but the problem with this particular virus which is new is that confirmed cases have tested positive at unexpected times during the course of their illness That doesnt mean the test is bad It means this virus is different The conditions the quarantined people are in is military housing There are well documented problems with military housing but its DoD owned If you want better DoD housing for military people and their families then agree to pay more taxes Theyre not starving theyre not being tortured At most they stay there for two weeks Were talking about people with money who were on cruise ships or maybe living lavishly abroad Of course theyre going to bitch about the basic military hotels at some random air force base in Nebraska|0 Ah here Is this for Paddys day Weve cancelled everything in Ireland for fuck sake What are they at|0 Even young people die so more like most people know someone|0 88 sensitivity is actually pretty good as lab tests go|1 How do you reason with people who cant reason or dont know how Ive really struggled with how people can just be so I dunno what it is Willfully ignorant loose buttholesI dont think us Americans are ever taught how to think Its mostly regurgitation Mostly Like aliens at night I dont think some of these people can ever be reached It will have to be a generational fix And fixed via a major reform in the education systemSo yeah Giant Meteor Coronavirus 2020 Wipe this place clean|1 Canada is not alone on any of that|1 Really fucking irresponsible Lack of understanding of someone being asymptomatic could cost lives of loved ones|0 Spanish Flu killed people primarily between 15 and 30 It caused cytokine storms which are deadly to people with healthy immune systems not unhealthy ones Thats the exact opposite of COVID19 These deaths also occurred much much faster than COVID19s Were talking Within COVIDs incubation period Spanish Flu wouldve likely killed you already Viruses that take longer to kill you but still do are infinitely more deadly than virus that kill quickly So exactly the opposite of what you are saying is the correct takeware However I found no evidence anywhere that spanish flu killed faster than corona so it may be a moot point anywaysThe only way in which coronavirus is less scary than the spanish flu is1 We have better technology more resources2 It targets older people so less life years lose in total even if covid19 ends up killing more|0 Yes|1 Er persnlich habe nicht mit Trump gesprochen He hadnt spoken to Trump personally so hearsay with no sources again|0 Most people are panic buying things and trying to continue as normal Ie going to work taking kids to school etc all the while fucking terrified of whats going to happen People are doing what theyre told |0 They announced the taxi driver case today this statement was probably miss interpreted|0 so the bad spirits were just a confounding variable and the malaria was the real cause|0 Likely he takes a prominent role because he made the decision to reduce the US pandemic response budget by 80 a year ago good call Trumpy and because instead of putting together a nuanced sensible plan in January he thought it was better to go on TV and call this a hoax and tell people to get on with their livesWhat is wrong with that man Just what the US citizens needed A global pandemic with Captain Simple Jack in the oval office|1 Its a pity that outside of some east or south Asian countries we dont dedicate much research to herbs and unpatentable substances in general This is the sort of study that could lead to really useful things several years down the road but well probably never get there because the urgency will be gone and well be back to business as usual|1 Erm well I was skiing in northern Italy about halfway through January |1 Please be respectful here|1 Its also not just the elderly and health compromised This is affectingkilling people who arent in those categories 3 examples the Chinese doctors who died on the front line including the original whistleblower Li Wenliang The 23 year old Iranian womens football player who died in Qom The first Italian to catch the virus from community transmission is 38 a marathon running amateur footballer is still in ICU I dont think anyone is exempt I too am in a high risk category and its scary to feel so vulnerable and powerless but then Im 42 so not really considered young regardless of still feeling 21|0 Sure everyone could have responded better everywhere Look at the US not testing and actually not have enough test kits|1 Your country is so beautiful I hope if anything youll find some national spirit in these dire times Love from Denmark|1 Indeed we should be proactive not reactive and wait till someone dies from unknown causes to figure it out What are the odds that there is no community transmission in Canada Given the Ontario woman who flew and took the bus with no mask or the two layovers that stopped in Montreal Why does something bad have to happen before we wake up Personally I love being Canadian but I find Canada is always late to the party|1 Mike made 2 deliveries We are happy with that but he was supposed to have done 10|1 SlapdickEdit Sorry Shitbird|0 If they are only testing people who have been in China they will only see the cases that can be traced back to China Its peak flu season right now if they were really testing everyone with flulike symptoms the WHO would be running millions of tests Certainly the CDC isnt running many tests so how would we even know about outside transmission chains httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf5c2fiuscdchastested47peoplesincelastwednesdayhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf5c2fiuscdchastested47peoplesincelastwednesday|0 Again I havent seen any panic or any hoarding Been to both Costco and WinCo in the last week plenty of stock of everything|1 What supplies did you get if you dont mind me asking Im thinking about getting a month or two worth of food maybe rice and beans since they wont take up much space I doubt the water will be shut off so I can just drink filtered water|0 Are you serious Wow They are going all out trying to contain this thing I wonder how long itll be before this all lets up|1 That is because this virus is supposedly to work similarly to HIV It attacks the same protein called furin and goes to the human body via the protein ACE2 same like HIV So it is mainly connected with disrupting of the immune system leaving the body vulnerable for infections making even slight ones dangerousIt would be also explaining the mild symptoms in many cases especially with younger patients Their organisms are strong enough to defend but I am concerned about the potential of reinfection|1 Big pharma wants to scare everyone into buying masks Doctors are pleading for the public to leave it for them|0 The reasons arent good enough Wake up ffs We are in serious trouble without an aggressive quarantine strategy as outlined by all asian countries We are doing fuck all and people like you who think this is adequate are going to be in for a brutal awakening within 1014 days time I dont see how we arent going to be hit considerably worse than Italy at this point|0 Thank you I would like good info so that I can have informed dialogue with familyfriends Ill start with what you recommended|1 Thank you so much for saying this Im trying so hard to not panic but when my anxiety is already set off with other things lately its really easy to let it carry me away |1 It was just declared today so heres hoping my hotel actually does something about it|1 Japans form of bureaucracy is uniquely bad at dealing with black swan events I believe as a culture not race they are the highest on Gerry Hofestead uncertainty avoidance index from Culture DimensionsWe have seen this time and time again that Japan will flounder and is incapable of decisive action when faced with any unprecedented or unexpected challengeIn this type of situation everyone will typically look for someone else to make a decision since nobody individually will step up they will try to ensure everyone agrees with any action and that means assessing discussing at length every potential action Once they know about something that are masterful at working out a strategy and implementing with precision but thatll be 6 months from now|0 My parents are older And I have small children This is worrying|0 Thats total possible hospital beds Yes a some of those beds will still have to be used for other reasons but my point is that the number of infected people would have to be completely massive to even approaching overwhelming the numbers Wuhan has a metro population of 20000000 people and still only have 80k cases even if you dont believe those numbers you cant reasonability believe it would be more than 50k under reported which is a 004 infection rate And outbreaks outside of Wuhan are nearly nonexistent This isnt a new virus Its been around for a month and a half If this was spreading like wildfire outbreaks would be everywhere|1 Yeah they were simply the first and for a while most accurate english tracker|1 Sad thing is that EDC in Las Vegas has not been called off yet as of yesterday And that has one of the biggest crowds I have been a part of roughly 14 million people last year Those promoters are either really stupid or just plain greedy|0 I hate Ford but he and his team are taking the appropriate measures For a party that doesnt believe in Science Im glad they handled it the way they have Not going to vote for the guy next time around but glad he didnt mess this one up like he messed up a lot of things Hopefully this is a wake up call to listen to teachers healthcare workers and climate changeAs for Trudeau I like him but really wish he would close the boarder with the US sooner Our biggest threat with this virus is the United States|1 Fuuuck that sucks for where you live I just called 4 walgreens in my area and they all said they have tests and to only come through the drive through Fuck Im sorry youre in a bad situation I hope things get better friend|0 Official 2 death rate with proper medical care artificial respiration antiviral medication The real number is likely higher than that The percentage who die after infection without medical care is much much higher|0 Gosh someone loves piers obvs Two downvotes already Hi whoever you are Gotta love the anonymous bashing on reddit|1 I dont doubt your research and I hope this can be a cure Just what I was told in the ER circa 93 I really hope your research bears fruit|1 Its called empathy Its rare Take care of yourself because that is something you have control overThe better you take care of you the better you can be for them and distract them from what is going on out around them Plus in the future it might be invaluable to them what you are teaching them|1 Wuhan yesterday graphichttpsimgurcomaO6skWrXOff course you may argue that this is a single hospital and does not reflect the state of the country etcthe sheer number of dead does not match with either the fatality rate or the number of infected I hope to god its the laterThere are several such videos circulating I am strongly convinced the Chinese government is massively lying|0 It was shown to increase zinc concentration in cells and zinc is shown to uniquely inhibit Sars polymerase Medcram has some good videos on it|1 You had faith in a government Our government Any government Parent should do better with their children|1 it and the CDC is a fucking jokeThe CDC was actually doing ok before the Trump administration started interfering and trying to prevent the flow of information For anyone interested in how the Trump administration has fucked the CDCs ability to respond to this theres a really good episode of On The Media on the topic here httpswwwwnycstudiosorgpodcastsotmepisodesonthemediacoveringpandemicwheninstitutionsgodark|1 Sure buddy whatever makes you sleep|1 hopefully the trend for the number of cases starts decreasing from now on yesterday we had 1492|1 Wore my N99 respirator for the first time today Some stares nobody in my country is wearing a mask yet and I overheard the cashiers after they served me making some comment to each other about how youre only supposed to wear a mask if youre sick but it wasnt directed at me and they didnt say anything to my face when I came back through with a few more items so it wasnt a big deal to me A few people smiled at me as if to they were thinking Aw thats cutesilly how seriously this person is taking itPeople are finally walking up to the pandemic in my country so I likely surprised a lot less people by wearing a mask today than I would have two weeks ago My taxi driver this morning told me that I was one of the smart ones he said his wife has been urging him to start wearing his N95s on the job We wished each other good luck and to stay safe|1 Pardon What is the US not doing right now that they should be doing Are you getting daily updates from the CDC regarding their efforts|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical 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he still does not take advice from pretty much absolutely everyone and do what must be done So as to what he can do he can ban all public gatherings of more than 50 He can shut the schools He can close the pubs or at least restrict the amount of people allowed in them He can make testing available to everyone and not just people being hospitalised Better yet he can make testing mandatory for at risk groups Right now all he is doing is admitting that people will die All those lives will be on his hands because he wants to achieve herd immunity Oh and someone who recovered from the virus has just been reinfected so herd immunity might not even be possible|1 I wonder when will we admit were screwed|0 Spanish fluThe 1918 influenza pandemic January 1918 December 1920 colloquially known as Spanish flu was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus with the second being the swine flu in 2009 It infected 500 million people around the world or about 27 of the then world population of between 18 and 19 billion including people on isolated Pacific islands and in the Arctic The death toll is estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million to 50 million and possibly as high as 100 million making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemics geographic originInfectious diseases already limited life expectancy in the early 20th century but life expectancy in the United States dropped by about 12 years in the first year of the pandemic PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 PA health officials boldly proclaimed that state labs can run 6 tests a day5th state by population 6th by GDP six 6 tests a dayyeah|1 Just a side note eat less sugar while this virus is going on Sugar causes inflammation and that exacerbates the virus in the lungs You dont want to encourage inflammation in the body if you get the virus|0 Yeah putting communist at the end like that was just stupid The govt isnt even communist anyway|1 I dont want to sound evil but chinese tourist still fly aroinf the world so if this true what I dont believe they will bring COVID19 back home again Only matter of time|1 Brave of them|1 his is over that there are many ways we can shore up our economy in the long run so we dont always go around in panic mode And long term measures have to do with helping consumers aka workers GuaranteeingCall the bank and ask them Many banks are offering concessions but you have to be humble and make the call Some advice for calling customer service in general is to be polite and be specific|0 Shes not going to get the virus and if she does she will be fine Shes not being stupid shes being selfish but no more so than the airline offering the flight Theres a guy down the thread flying out for a job interview and no one is calling him stupid Guess were ok with putting people at risk for money but not for love On second thought youre right Humans are stupid|0 If you believe there are only 15000 infected in Italy then what can I sayThe UK government are predicting that with 590 confirmed cases that means there are likely 500010000 infectedIf you apply that same logic to Italy you could reasonably say there are 150000300000 infected there all in one region relying on few hospitals|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Because they just wouldnt shut up They go through all that trouble and it all failed because they couldnt keep quiet Oy gevalt|0 ooo interesting can you link me the reference|1 This is what pandemic means EVERY city on the Earth is facing the Wuhan timeline at this point but starting at different points and with varying details as some cities mitigate better than others Some may get super lucky and avoid it all togetheruntil next Autumn assuming the virus is seasonal at all we really dont know yet for sure I think the remaining question is how much the overall progression can be SLOWED so that you dont get massive surges of critical patients in one giant wave Chinese policy seems to have been geared with this in mind I see nothing to make me think any other nations have the political will and organization to achieve the same thing|1 I am not disagreeing with you but I am stating that the mild case criteria include pneumonia of a lower severity ie not progressing to ARDSThe WHOCDC definition of mild basically means doesnt need extensive hospital support not that the illness wont make you very sick|0 Dont know you but I will keep you in my thoughts Its only been 24 hours Hopefully youll see results tomorrow morning Best wishes|1 I want to know when to pull my kids out of school and barricade ourselves in our house with out emergency food|0 Then his caregivers should be traced and locked down as soon as possable The whole hospital should be sealed offTo expand on uCJShort this is wrong because of the scaleHarborview is the most important hospital in the Pacific Northwest They fly people to this place 24x7 on emergency helicopters multiple landing pads from all over Western Washington alone because we have so many communities cities and towns spread out by multiple mountain ranges deserts ocean lakes Puget Sound on and on A day doesnt go by where you dont see the choppers coming You would cripple the entire region instantly And good luck tracing a damn thing out of there or any major tier 1 hospital Ive been in Harborview Im sitting as I write this maybe 2 miles from Harborview If one particular building wasnt in the way I could count the windows on Harborview That place is a huge mass of people on a normal day and its one of like five major hospital medical complexes here within a mile of each other We literally call it Pill Hill as a nickname|1 It does a lot of things but the most helpful is it frees up funding to go to whatever and wherever needs it More money freely available The problem is the people currently in power who have been incompetent every step of the way in regards to coronavirus are in charge of where the funds go|1 when were those 2 declared an emergency|0 I perhaps should have added to the post the penalties we face as parents Huge fines per child and potentially a prison sentence|0 Of course Dead wont care while new poor after bankruption will be very sad|0 It helps to reference other things this is being compared toSARS infected 10000 people over one yearConvid 19 has infected almost 200000 known in 4 months|0 I had viral pneumonia 5 weeks ago Im 23 It feels like cuts on your lungs It hurts to lift your arms up or move your body It hurts to breathe Im also a chronic asthmatic Its awful|0 Epoch Times did when they said the crematoriums are running 247 a good while ago I think otger places reporting Daily Mail etc were copying the story from them|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I see the NHS website has changed to recommend paracetamol only today which is very reasonable given the uncertainty of the ibuprofen situationAgain it was never my assertion that ibuprofen was safe it was the claim that ibuprofen was factually proven as unsafe to which I took exceptionIt seems that the NHS is now following the French in a why risk the unknown approach which makes sense given that the evidence is mixedAs I said above this is prudent given that paracetamol is a safe alternative I do not relent that the NHS was ever giving dangerous unsafe advice as was originally asserted as there is still no conclusive scientific proof either way|1 Ive read about a 98 year old surviving and a 36 year old dying|1 Poland maybe But finally people started paying attention yesterday so maybe not But testing is slow so we missed a lot of cases And we most likely have very little respirators|0 This is a ridiculously broad really stupid slur Apologize to me so that I will despise you a little less|0 If theyre high risk why the hell are they going out to a pub|0 The Wuhan government fucked up in the beginning though no mistake about that|0 Ive asked people on here never really got a reply that told me but unlike the paper masks you arent breathing directly into the filters and making them wet like the cheap ones clean the rubbery parts after use and I think theyd be useable until it blows over I would presume anything in the filter would die after a short period of time but dont quote me on that|1 Our tribe just closed our casino for two weeks Tribal members have been pushing for a closure for the last two weeks Hope it was in time|1 Las fallas More like last to live fellas|1 Didnt China have a high number of suspected cases when it was growing Whats Italys suspected case now|0 They will limit his interaction with the public and others lie about his health where he is why he seems sick Business as usual for his admin|0 A welcome tidbit of good news Its hard to stay positive but this gives me a little bit of hope|1 Im from Newfoundland Canada Not many people visit here so we were never hit by SARS and probably wont get hit by Coronavirus I feel bad for people in majorly affected areas who are wondering when they maywill catch it I hope it doesnt spread more than it already has where you are OP|0 Actually this was an issue For awhile their map wasnt showing any numbers for confirmed cases It just said yes or no Not posting numbers for cases tested is still a separate issue|1 We see multiple government responses and capabilities around the world From Chinas severe totalitarian treatment of citizens and information to Singapores authoritarian but quick and informative actionHere are the decisions they need to makeTest criteria test only the very sick and directly exposed travel or test as much as possible on the other handInformation vet and dont tell the public unless you have to or share every detail to help people self quarantineIn the long run the US Federal and State approach has erred on both counts You should test as much as you can and fast this will reveal community infection faster you should also override privacy concerns to an extent and provide information on all locations infected people visited These two together have a chance to slow down the spread they are scary but there will be much less panic than when you have thousands of unknown sick people around you Not to mention the economic cost in the long run is higher when everything shuts down at once|0 He suffered from a history of hypertriglyceridemia which can increase the chances of strokesStill in line with what the WHO is sayingStop playing doctor|1 Im not sure if it works that way No idea how China counts their numbers but where I am in Singapore our total count of 58 as per latest update released today 13 Feb includes 15 who have fully recovered and been discharged from hospital and 43 who remain warded Out of the 43 all but 7 cases are stable and improving warded in isolation wards The 7 are in critical condition in the ICUIn short the total count never decreases at least as per how we do it|0 Yes|1 The Chinese government is mostly at fault for covid 19 They were warned by the CDC and WHO that the cause of the next disease outbreak will be from exotic meats and were told that wild animals in surrounding areas were developing new diseases Yet the Chinese government ignored those warnings and didnt ban the sale or consumption of exotic meats They didnt give one single shit And look what happened|0 The experts on health and science His science advisor is a behavioural psychusing applied psych ugh who appears to be using game theory on this over ya know advice from senior epidemiologists virologists and infectious diseases specialists If they followed the advice of the latter theyd be following the leads of Denmark Poland etc Herd immunity is bullshit We still dont know fuck the world still doesnt know if this can reinfect later down the line leading to secondary and tertiary outbreaks To add subjectively itd seem Boris is more concerned about not letting the markets crash again as they did last week and keeping his donors portfolios ticking over over ya know caring for the people hes supposed to represent|0 So why theres no SO2 in the other chinese cities None of them Cant you learn to use your head|0 Yeah I think the whole people slack when they work from home is ridiculous I think they do but that people slacking off IN the office is massively underestimated It doesnt get worse at home lol|1 I want to know the answer to this Because that could be devastating If they never show symptoms and keep spreading it for a long period of time|0 Never forget Chinas ability to ignore practical decisions to save faceReleasing a virus from their top security bio lab makes the CCP look bad From their view it would be better they try to sweep it under the rug than ever acknowledge it publicly and take the early steps to contain it|1 Netherlands just announced no lockdown Going with herd immunity strategyhttpsnltimesnl20200316coronavirusfulltextprimeministerruttesnationaladdressenglish|0 Yeah that sub is loaded with apocalypse fetishists|1 Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups In an environment of free speech and open sources you felt the need to frame any criticism of China and its leaders in bias and other ideology driven commentaryThe beautiful thing is that many others are not taught to follow a single ideology or believe a single source or media outlet Perhaps they even studied how to research sources weigh and judge them I think your comments are highly defensive that your perspective and judgement is flawed and youre quick to jump to conclusions Its often refreshing to look at issues from another angle try it for once So Im repeating it for your royally butt hurted feelings the CCP suppressed early warnings with brutality and intimidation because the need to protect the CCP was more important to them than public health resulting in a pandemic Even Nazis in a concentration camp understood the need to address viral and bacterial disseases quickly bc it represented a danger to themselves Think about that one|0 Thank you Lets hope it ends up being acute like most other human coronaviruses seem to beOne more question if I may do you have any lectures or panels discussions of yourself andor your team on this topic that you could share Im happy that it was you who answered the question btw since I think think your work is brilliant and Ive seen you speak once youre super engaging and very fun to listen to|1 If you can read read this and then sit down and stfu There is also a pretty picture for proofhttpswwwaxioscomcoronavirusnasaimageschinapollutionclears7dd8961d06274342ab0d029c872ced1ehtml|1 Sample of 155 seems weak to correlate Using Chinas data the figure is no longer 0 if under 50yrs old 21000 is the mortality rate ive seen referenced for sub 50 yr olds Still crazy deadly 1500 people infected most people will have 12 people who they know through work school family etc die|0 Is this supposed to be hopeful and encouraging This is not comforting at all|1 theres empirical evidence showing that immunity may only last 12 monthsYes that is evidence of temporary immunity And theres empirical evidence that immunity may last more than a year However theres no confirmed evidence pointing toward no immunity or that reinfection is likely or commonFurther study is always needed so thats a given|0 Every doctor or nurse who are turning patients away from being tested due to not severe enough symptoms are gonna have some real regrets and head shakes in about a week when numbers double and triple in size local hospital by my house had 700 people show up today with corona virus symptoms and only 17 got tested 17 Thats potentially 683 people walking around my city with the virus as we speak who will have no idea that they are contagious|0 is this like when he didnt say the neonazi was a good guy even though he didHe said It the coronavirus is their new hoaxand yes its in the same family as the flu but 2030x more deadlyHere drink this water its 30x more likely to kill you than tap water no really its good Hes again pushing misinformation that will get people killed|0 I live 20 miles from Disney World and had to go to the ER last night for an ear infection There werent many people No coughing at all and I was seen really fast Ive been to both of my kids colleges and again no coughing everyone seems fine so far The hospital serves a populatuon of approx 90000 people So I was pleasantly surprised|1 PLEASE distribute this info as widely as possible Thank you|1 There are currently people arguing with me you can check my comment history in america saying im crazy and it will blow over in one news cycle Also Its just old people They have never been through anything and cant fathom how bad this can be Its so frustrating|0 Yes but that doesnt answer the questions|1 I completely agree|1 hope people are aware that all the animals including pangolins in the market were carriers of the covid19 but were not the source of the disease the diseases ancestor probably came from a bat but that form of the virus cant infect humans or these animals sold at the market its more likely that the animals at the market got it from a human who was already infectedhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf5344acansomeonepleaseexplaintomewhypeoplearefhxrrl5utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf5344acansomeonepleaseexplaintomewhypeoplearefhxrrl5utmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xa lot of this kind of thing leads to misunderstandings there are carriers and then there are animals that are actual intermediate hosts in which the animal virus can mutate and then become the virus that leads to covid19 nobody has yet to determine this intermediate animal host IMO it is a nonhuman primate which would make perfect sense as monkeys do eat bats why nobodys bothering to research this has a lot to do with a lot of misinformation confusing carriers of the disease for the source of it if we nailed down the source this would go a long way to stopping this disease and future descendants of it from infecting mankind SARSCoV SARS and SARSCoV2 covid19 came from the same ancestor virus this has happened twice already its time people start looking for the real intermediate host and start with looking at all the nonhuman primates throughout the worldhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSevereacuterespiratorysyndromerelatedcoronavirusClassificationhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSevereacuterespiratorysyndromerelatedcoronavirusClassificationBoth these strains descended from a single ancestor but made the crossspecies jump into humans separately|0 To be fair no one in Antarctica is infected as of 300 AM GMT|0 Good thing they did too Started the panic|0 Just the flu bro some uniformed person|0 Spoiler alert It is incredibly crowded on The Big Island Hop to Maui or Lanai or Ny of the others|1 If this doesnt get people to realize how shambolic it is to have the nonexistent amount of social safety nets for the people of this country nothing will|1 Actually Ive been watching Mister Rogers and he covers so many topics just look up one that your feeling and its probably on YouTube Im honor of both Tom Hanks and Mister Rogers himself hes such a reassuring guy and a beautiful soul|1 Good to know|1 Corona Why be alive if youre drinking Corona|1 This is devastating to read but thank you for translating|1 The paper finds statistical artifacts theres no reason to believe theres a functional difference|0 The same WHO who essentially had a full page of propaganda in the NYT about censoring Americans for following the facts and concluding that the virus is man made and was w funded by the WHO and gates foundations in part Yes Yes I do|1 The virus is clearly everywhere Wore a mask when picked up my check from my restaurant jobHey look everyone Its SubZeroFuck em|1 The problem isnt consumers the problem is that this country allowed almost all of our vital medical supplies to be manufactured in foreign countries It isnt our fault there are no masks and it isnt our fault there are drug shortages We have been paying sky high prices for medical care in this country for years and we have been paying taxes If there are no masks take our tax money and make some|0 This man is the Executive Director of the WHO Health Emergencies Programme and hes coughing into his hand like a coronavirus sleeper agent|1 How the fuck did he predict this|0 its been more than 24 hours since the last update Unacceptable Is this a first world nation|0 Just updated the description Hope to be able to get in touch with the hospital|1 and blamed everyone else for their previous failures|0 I hope it goes that way but its entirely possible that covid19 is here foreverIts onset is too mild and it spreads too easily to burn itself out The incubation period is too long for most countries to stomach a lockdown sufficient for ALL cases to be detected|1 I like that one a lot but there is some duplication of cases Ive reported some new ones and Ive reported some errors For instance they had 2 deaths this morning that were the same case because the different news stories they identifed named it in the Houston area or Matagorda CountyIt used to be really close to DSHS for my state within 2 but now its showing a lot more 56 vs 96 DSHS tx is updated onceday so its pretty much always 1 day behind I expect right after todays dshs update the numbers will be closer but that 1point3 will still have more due to some duplicates As the pace quickens a site like 1point3 that tries to update constantly will probably become less accurate x200BDont read into that that the widespread outbreaks arent as bad as the numbers we see There are many many more cases out there than these numbers Testing could not keep up at the start and is just beginning to ramp up this week It will probably never keep up with it Test results are 12 weeks behind whats actually out there because of how long it takes to get symptoms get a test and get it processed The only way to see true numbers would be for every single person to take a rapid result test and even that would miss those that have it still in an indetectable state still incubating|1 Probably by the end of the week honestly two weeks at max|1 thank God I hope the rest of America follows|1 Harder in density or difficulty|0 If you click on Canada in the top left is shows 66|1 Wonder if mod would flag this as low effort post for not citing sources|0 Man i knew I and this sub in general had a lot of scenarios in mind for what was about to happen And I was thinking about major lockdowns and economic crisis But seeing this happen and with this extent just blows my mind Even more so that italy was just the start and Germany and most of europe will follow with at last the giant USA This is gonna get so so so much worse|0 Youre factually incorrect on a number of thingsBy all means elaborate I mean thatll get upvotes but doesnt tell me anything and just takes a place of authority Id be happy to cite whatever you have a a question about China has built actual hospitalsTheyre cargocontainers retrofitted for easy deployment prefab trailers and yes tents They have not built hospitals like you picture a hospital in 10 days They are temporary and incapable of many of the things youd expect a hospital to be capable of Theyre for a specific and immediate need Clinic is a more proper term at best and still temporary Again Same thing happened during the previous scares And again China and Japan and other highly packed areas have a much bigger reason to be concerned and this proactive Mass panic is just as harmful at the same time but we arent at that levelThe newsmedia and reddit users for the last week says otherwise but alright Subs like this especially when admins are promoting it as they are now only fuel hysteria They sit around hyping the latest numbers while commenters declare millions to be at risk of imminent death and downvote anyone who doesnt share their hysteria Dont get me started on the preppers coming out in droves with their smug I told you so attitudes Its rampant But these places dont reiterate the obvious because it gets boring and doesnt draw clicks Wash your hands avoid crowded places wash your hands wear a mask if youre coughing wash your hands avoid touching your eyes and mouth and wash your goddamned hands Thats it Thats basically the strategy Same shit applies every flu season which to reiterate again kills nearly 4x as many people in the USA alone as COVID19 has killed worldwide since its discovery Worldwide the flu kills around 646000 people Every year Every year Pretty much exactly as easy to transmit The hysterics dont match the numbers at all If they did wed see fluseason megathreads every year|0 To even casually suggest that shortterm smoking might work and should be studied is IMHO highly irresponsible|0 Chinas response was amazing after they tried to cover it up in the first place But this virus will likely come in waves and it may be hard for China to continue to lock down as they have multiple times without completely devastating their chances to recover economicallyAlso most countries do not have a central government structure to be as effective in a lockdown scenario like China|1 Mate there could be a shitton of unconfirned cases do a math with these numbers to get the mortality rate is stupid|0 They dont even understand how medical experts manage these situations They could read about it but they choose not toThe goal is to force R0 below 1 and let the virus burns out The strategies to do this account for relapses people breaking quarantine and uncertain incubation periodsChina is a shit show which will drag this thing on but the rest of the worlds response is only going to get better not worse|0 I read the entire thing and it only says it didnt happen because we say so and officials who have no reason to say it happened also said so Then it says the person in charge of the company is meeting w trump and was in contact with the white house implicitly suggesting it did happen but both sides are trying to hide it probably for diff reason as there are rly no chances for them to sell the vaccine to the US The article also mentions a report but i didnt see any sources of this report or why i shouldnt trust it So did it happen or not|0 Same people will want sympathy when they infect their grandma|1 Bidets have been sold out on Amazon for a day or 2|1 So if you see people sick it will be a big deal Thats kind of the point right now This is the early stages Its growing exponentially Based on numbers alone and not sensational news articles that should give you a hint as to the seriousness of the situation If you can give me a solid reason based on data as to why I shouldnt be worried I would love to hear itIf looking at the growth rate of this thing extrapolating and seeing the economic effects already happening makes me a dumbass then I guess thats a good thing now|1 I never thought Id be defending capitalist China if youre confused about that description thats beyond the scope of this comment but are you kidding Ontario has 213 critical care units for a population of 146 million Miami only has half a million people Chinese infrastructure usually sucks compared to the rich countries but is insanely advanced compared to the semicolonial countries|1 Governments are the problem|0 I would just default to tap water unless your tap water is unusually terrible|0 Does it smell better too|1 Outside of the Hubei Province where its not really possible I feel like a system should be in place where if you self isolate you can call in to have people come in and test you Then if you test positive you can get financial compensation for staying at home Drop off supplies and then seal the doors and they get the compensation at the end when the doors are proven still sealed Its throwing money at the problem but should work somewhat|1 Sadly a famous popstar actor or athlete getting ill would be one of the best ways to raise awareness|0 Last time i read there was this 98 year old woman who also recovered successfully from the virus|1 How is she not being taken care of Would the test change her course of care|0 Or perhaps the elites somehow can get access to the test a lot more easily than ordinary people|1 Thank you everyone |1 Sure they can but maybe Trump Pence would rather not knowsince they claim everything is cool we got this locked down|1 The only reason lethality would drop is if theres selective pressure containing it due to carriers dying With a two week incubation this is not the case|0 They are expecting a China type drop in cases due to the quarantine httpsmiromediumcommax39421rddYhoUtPse6xNOEinApnghttpsmiromediumcommax39421rddYhoUtPse6xNOEinApng|0 I live how democracy is failing everyone right now and everyones shocked|0 Good point Arent Italians typically healthier than Americans as well|1 Those three people are at work They should be isolating themselves right now Fuck Can you work from home|0 I would imagine it is illegal and comes under the common law offence of battery if intentional|0 milk and sugarThese people would be fine without coffee in the morning as their addition is milk and sugar|1 Asymptomatic people werent going in to get tested anyways If you arent feeling sick you wouldnt go to a hospital or clinic Im actually amazed that they tested that many asymptomatic people to begin with Likely people who were in close contact with other patients|1 Pretty sure they went out of stock because they are sweet devices since the strain on their supply has been ongoing since at least early December before anybody really knew what was going on|1 Quebec said today during their daily press conference that they had 3000 negative tests and 3000 that were waiting for results So total tests must be 30733079 6152See tweet from Sant Quebechttpstwittercomsanteqcstatus1239616245256916994s21|0 This will allow governments to use the good meter thats locked in the safe not the crappy ones that only up to 36 Roentgen|1 Look up something called Chloroquine Google chloroquine covid19 First result httpswwwunboundmedicinecommedlinecitation32074550fullcitationhttpswwwunboundmedicinecommedlinecitation32074550fullcitation The coronavirus disease 2019 COVID19 virus is spreading rapidly and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China Chloroquine phosphate an old drug for treatment of malaria is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention Diagnosis and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID19 issued by the National Health Commission of the Peoples Republic of China for treatment of COVID19 infection in larger populations in the future They need about a gram per person per 50 days For 14 billion people China will need 1400 metric tons|1 Thank you|1 The last 3 years have also sucked|0 Hes more than just a greedy businessman hes a boasting bloated succubus who is really searching for unearned accomplishments I hate him so much|0 Hey Guess what You dont know what you are talking about because you dont have enough data Please come back in two months and lecture us about influenza|1 Not me personally yet but my family has moved our older relatives to safer locations away from major population centers They have everything they need to be comfortable and more|1 Sort of I actually asked a doctor Harvard profMD to verify my thoughts on this paper after listing a few observations about the data First the age group of the group is 2182 with a median of 555thats an older group and its very obviously not including infection cases of children and young adults who have so far been reported as either being asymptomatic or mild cases and only including cases of viral pneumonia that require hospitalization So two factors there to bring that mortality figure up to 11 for hospitalized cases so far and probably lower when including the total number of infectionsNow heres where it gets less pretty Only 31 patients were discharged and 58 were still in hospital at the time of publishing So while 11 died there are still 58 sitting on the fence of whether they are going to be discharged or die so that 11 can either stay the same or get worse for those hospitalized Based on data from the WHOs page seasonal flu severely affects 35 million annually resulting in 350690000 deaths which is the closest I could find to what you were wonderingthatd be a cheaters way of figuring that the mortality rate for those severely ill with the flu is 1014 globally However thats a global figure which would include all those countries that are not industrialized like China or the US so its better to look at those two countriesThe mortality rates for the seasonal flu are 16 26 in China vs 01 in the US with the majority of deaths being in older patients in the US the mortality rate for seasonal flu for patients over 65 is 1 In both countries US748 as per CDC China90 as per a WHO paper these severe casesmortalities tend to be older individuals One of the reasons why the flu hits China harder is because they dont have big pushes to use flu vaccines like we do Less flu vaccines more flu more flu related deaths higher mortality I couldnt find numbers expressly for people hospitalized and deaths out of those for either country I imagine that that would be higher as it would likely again be older people or the very young dying from the flu so the numbers would in theory be comparable I think haha I wish I could find that information expresslyWhat I do know however is that doctors are distressed by the mortality rates shown so far for the Wuhan coronavirus The first batch of patients 47 with a median age of 49 had a mortality rate of around 3 The disease takes 23 weeks to run its course so the mortality rate for hospitalizations could go upIn fact I just checked with the same doctor who posted this paper and he had someone calculate the range of that paper and it puts the mortality of coronavirus pneumonia hospitalization between 57 and 19 So could be lower could be higher Needs more dataEdit And please if Ive made a mistake mathematically or in an assumption or source here osmebody please correct me I admit that I am tired and may make a mistake somewhere|0 Thats very unfortunate RIP|0 This is what I find insane about all this They arrived in the US and spent four days before anyone reported anything In the meantime they sat on an international flight with probably 200 to 300 people walked through an airport terminal where they intersected with thousands of people ate at restaurants with hundreds of other people gas stations stores malls grocery store doctors dentists work places schools meetings before they decided it was a good idea to quarantine Its hopeless the pandemics greatest tool is human stupidity|0 thanks for sharing|1 The conditions in those wet markets were terrible From the photos you have 99 types of different wildlife locked in small cages in close proximity of each other its like a petridish for virus mutation Those are also considered delicacies not part of the normal local dietSure new virus can happen anytime but if the government didnt even take recommended steps to lower the chance of it happening it deserves some blames in my book 2 novel coronavirus SARS and now from the same country Even more soBesides it isnt prejudice or grudges that lead to many of us blaming China Its the recent change of tune from China All news and state media are talking about the virus might not have originated from China China did very well fighting it etc If these somehow becomes truth you can bet that going forward China wont have any incentive to learn from the mistakes and do preventions betterWhat we want well I want is for China to admit they made mistakes fucked up with past policies and lax health regulations dont talk all day about how Traditional Chinese medicine is superior dont talk about how glorious Xi led heroic doctors and nurses and won the battle full of similar stuff in Chinese media and censor the wrong things they did during the quarantine confiscating mask shipments arresting whistleblowers turning people away from hostpitals sealing families in their apartments etc Also stop making blostering poststweets hourly about delivering masks to other countries seems like everyone forgot that most mask factories are in China its almost like its their contractual obligation to send mask shipments to their customers not some acts of miracles Only then would there be room to discuss how to do better going forward|1 Yeah anyone who wasnt a pathological liar would be great|1 What a completely irresponsible headline from Fox 12 Oregon Simply not true Dr Charles Sailey the lab director believes theyre close to being able to provide athome testing kits for the masses|0 I wished they had listened here is the video where I question the issue and ask them what they are doing I was told the flu was a bigger risk Then a whole month went by with any press release about hand washing or hygiene They wasted valuable time and many of us were telling them to take it seriously httpscalderdalepublicitvcoreportalwebcastinteractive467990starttime5800000forcelanguagecodeenGB|0 The reported number of cases is dropping This could indicate a reduction in the healthcare systems ability to test for the virus rather than a slowdown in infectionsDo we have any indications that Wuhans hospitals are overloaded|1 1 Its super helpful but not enoughFirst Quest site in CA has capability for 1200 tests600 patients a day per initial communication Thats 12 extra patients per US state PER DAY Wooo Apparently ramping up to 5000 testsday by Mar 24 which is stillnot a lot Not sure about LabCorp2 They are able to test but they arent collecting the samples from the people Quest diagnostics header says PATIENTS Please do not go to a Quest Patient Service Center for coronavirus COVID19 testing contact your healthcare provider for testing services3 Getting in to get sampled when things are crazy busy AND even the protective equipment for those doing the sampling are limiting factors You cant show up with a loogie in a mason jar and a QTip from the deep recesses of your nose Someone has to get the samples x 2 then they have to change their gloves and other protective equipment so they dont infect the next person A whole room might need to be cleaned4 If you are already sick in a hospital it is no big deal to get sampled but we need more of the walkup drive through testing that UW is doinghttpswwwcbsnewscomnewsdrivethrucoronavirustestingfacilityusseattlewashington Decrease the friction on this as far as patient entry paymenteverything Including support documents and ample resources for you should you be positive like Actual check ins by phone to see how things are going Phones for those without Places to quarantine and supplies for those without|1 Except the whole sexual harassment stuff he looked the other way on|0 Oh man that is bad Im in Cali as well with confirmed cases very close as well Only one county away from an entire school district closingIll keep my fingers crossed for you|0 Because 99 of cases are in China Assuming the 2 mortality rate is accurate you wouldnt expect to see a single death in any given country until there are at least 50 people infected So far the number of confirmed infected is well below that everywhere outside China but we HAVE seen a couple of deaths outside China Im sure the fact that Wuhans medical services are being stretched to the limit is also a factor if you dont have enough ICU staff and facilities to accomodate all of your critical care patients then I would expect the mortality rate to be much worse|0 Yes exactly but this shortage is only of N95 masks I literally found full stocks of 3M half mask with P100 filters in so many socal paint shops People are misinformed so much in the US its crazy Everyone thinks that masks are useless instead of gov Educating them how to use masks they just tell them to not buy them unless theyre sickTSA and airports are so behind on info too they tell u to remove ur mask and put it in the bin for scanning what the actual fuk|0 It also authorizes automatically their Emergency Response Centers and redirectiin of reg govt staff to set it up and have some assigned there meanwhile and the rest already trained to be primed to hit the ground running if shtf|0 Do you have any more details about that Ive heard rumors about them considering limiting grocery store hours but no timeline for when it would happen|0 Yes this is suspect for a basic pandemic response No reason for it and response seems consistent almost across the board|0 and good luck with your socialism fantasies Hopefully some counselor will help you recover before your entitlement disorder leads you to try and take what isnt yours and you end up locked in a prison cage with people who think like you and feel entitled to rape you because they sniffle sniffle had such a hard deprived life and it was so unfair|0 Sorry I think the sub is closed so maybe thats why the link doesnt work Theres not much more than what I reported Hes an immunologist and head of medicine at a US medical facility Hes been treating patients offlabel with antivirals that have had positive findings but hasnt seen the kind of results being reported elsewhere Heres the text from the linkPeople are sick and dying and it doesnt appear to be magic My intuition is that we are probably too late when we start and we dont know who needs it early on nor do we have enough drug for that I also suspect that patients who receive it and get better were probably going to get better withoutTo be honest my sense is that Chloroquine has been tried as an antiviral many times in the past While it may work in the lab it doesnt seem to be effective in human trials Hopefully this time is different|1 East Asians are pretty good at telling where other east asians are fromBut that pretty much applies to everyplace Indians can probably tell which part of India fellow Indians are from Chinese people can tell which province other chinese people are from europeans can tell where other europeans are from etc|1 Ha Im from Houston too|1 Ah no I see it thank you I didnt know I looked on httpwwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrychina and biggest spike said 150|1 What is this I havent been following It sounds really cool|1 But I snap back to reality and Im terrified for my parents especially my dadYeah my parents are my biggest concern They are in their 70s and relatively healthy but still|0 hi Im keeping tabs in case anything happens but Im not panicking like most of this sub until this thing has killed more people than the flu this thing is just a very serious flu and most able bodied people recover All the evidence here suggests that if youd have died from this youd have died from the flu|0 If by stupid you mean naive and honest to be transparent then add me to your stupid list then|0 No The S type originated in Wuhan and most likely only a few weeks before the L type|0 I worry due to our household risk as well It doesnt matter if its in my state because my boyfriend travels to every state for work And I have a child with cystic fibrosis This is a death sentence if he gets it|0 Im confused I have read some news claiming US test kit is faultyhttpswwwindependentcouknewsworldamericascoronavirustestsnewyorkuscaseskitstrumpcdcresultsa9365921html|0 Lmfao nurse periodically checks in on the patient ICU nurse here and I lay constant eyes on my pts checking in every 30mins1hr or more often depending on acuity and if they become septic and enter MODS|1 Being born to a rich family is luck is it not|1 OK this is starting to look more and more like The Stand|1 The Soviet Union collapse wasnt brought about by a disease outbreak so its an unfair comparisonThat wasnt my point My point was about a state of complacency and denial before collapse And my point about Iraq Venezuela and Iran was about the economic and social impacts when supply lines and trade are constrained which is what a pandemic can also bring about Supply chain operations in such conditions have been extensively planned forWhich is good But governments can only do so much They cant bring the world back to normal in the face of a changed global condition but to say my understanding of how interconnected the world is today is lacking is not justifiedWell Im only basing it on your comments here which have left me unimpressed Ive had a browse through your publication list but frankly dont have much interest in reading deeper Why do so after an initial unfavourable first impressionBest we leave it here I think|0 No idea every parent is still working almost all commute daily to a huge city I live in a suburb It will undoubtedly continue to spread within my town and I dont see any way to stop that|0 Thats the funny thing I dont think well know Wuhan is like 11 Million They locked that shit down Seattle and surrounding areas is like 4 million I dont think well lockdown Well just let it spread and deal with the fallout Honestly I dont even think thats wrong at this point It cant be contained China tried pretty damn hard to contain it and my hat comes of for them at this point we just have to deal|1 Its mostly to allocate funding easier and get past red tape that is ordinarily there Declaring a state of emergency doesnt necessarily mean the state is about to get slammed with a million casesThat being said I think it is a good move Start making moves early in some attempt to contain it|1 Theyve always been as bad Blinders off|0 As much as wed love to tell everyone I told you so I hope to God were wrong I hope we end up looking dumb for being so worried about something ppl will eventually move on from Ik there are bigger numbers in deaths from African illnesses and other diseases but none of those could impact the world like covid19 already has esp from a global economy standpoint Its already done some damage china will have to recover from|0 That makes more sense then healthy individuals dropping dead from it Still fucked|0 Excellent case map Thank you for sharing|1 Same central PA here My boss still thinks its fake and wants one of our engineers to go survey a customer site down near Philly And its just generally business as usual in my immediate area as far as public outings go Shit paper and stuff sold out schools are closed but thats really it|0 Here are some calculationshttpvirologicalorgtdivergenceofncov2019toclosestnonhumanrelative388 about the divergence timeline between the bat virus and the current strain ignoring recombination|0 No Taiwan is what China threatened and sick In fact Taiwan is overreacted because we thought China will cover it up and fuck us|0 Yes I live in Mountain View We are stuck here for the forseeable futureI have been following this since January As a result my household is very ready but we are nervous just because its a dense neighborhood with people nearby and we are unsure if our neighbors get sick if we will be safe I have asthma so I am higherrisk for a bad outcome We are also worried about our older parents who are eyerolling about this My mom is diabetic and has kidney problems she would probably not survive this And she was hellbent on flying on a plane last week Otherwise we are VERY prepared We have been selfisolating for 9 days and out of an abundance of caution prepped for both our household and for our elderly parents so at least if they are unable to get what they need or get sick we can bring them stuff and maketake them food that is allowed under the lockdown orderI worry for how many people are going to be completely unable to make rent April 1 I assume SOMETHING must happen in the next week or two to address that We have astronomically expensive housing a huge population of renters and many many people live paycheck to paycheck no way a ton of people will have rent money come april 1 with their jobs being made literally illegalI mod the bay area subreddit and there is a LOT of work managing questions and helping people understand what is happening and a lot of people are still whining about how this isnt cool and how they dont intend to obey the order So that sucks|0 Always two there are no more no less A master and an apprentice|0 Good to hear Thanks for the update|1 I have been concerned that children may be acting as a core reservoir for the virus not generally being impacted but acting as carriers Simply knowing this could allow public health to better tailor mitigation actions The first hint was the Chinese CDC Descriptive Epi with the conspicuously absent pediatric cases That was like a waving flag to me Then Bruce Alyward with WHO then said we need to better understand this Now we see journal articles like this This is actionable information for public health in the United States but I do not hear it being even mentioned as something of interest|1 Yup Thats the school by me People in work have kids there I hope its not that one Off to check fb|1 People say they have the flu when their stomach is queasy Lots of people have no idea what the flu is And even more people just parrot what they hear other people say|0 True stuff how tf are you suppose to control a group of people who feel duped and lied to|0 Im a medical researcher PhD and I can only undertand the papers in my specific fields of interest Ive had a look at virology molecular biology papers on 2019nCov and I can barely follow them let alone understand them and yes I did take those subjects as an undergrad I really think people who are not specialists in the relavent subspeciality will have no chance of interpreting this literature These things are so complex that it really does take many years of very specific training to understand Im all for open access to scientific literature The worry is that people will start citing links to papers based solely from the title and titlesabstracts can be quite misleading Then becuase it looks like a credible source the wrong idea can go viral|0 Yes true If USA isnt doing it then Canada wont start Its coordinated|1 Thank you for this CA will be the eyes and ears for the rest of us you and Washington have the most cases|1 I work as a janitor at a high school in Michigan Governor Whitmer just closed all schools for three weeks We dont even have a cleaning chemical with 60 alcohol The district is sending letters to parents saying we are doing extra cleaning and disinfecting We are not We are in the dark about a plan forward and are told business as usual The school I work at is even so sure that the MHSAA will reverse their decision to cancel winter sporting events to the point they are still holding practices and having us prepare the gyms for events Its insanity Everytime I bring up any concern that we cant actually kill the virus with our current chemicals I get told by coworkers you must be a liberal cause those are the only ones who care this much about this hoax School officials everyone I didnt expect working at a high school would be so high school|1 fair enough|1 This is really bad news|0 While that is true the issue doesnt lie in generational spread for the lack of a better term but spread from community to community Even an R0 of 15 is enough for spread to be huge So while it would be good to drop it it doesnt change the game completely|1 No because infection with influenza and covid19 are not mutually exclusive there have already been multiple confirmed cases of coinfections|0 Wow does the virus kill 100 of 90 year old patients or something|0 I seriously hope we quickly get better control of this The west coast could be our Hubei China if not|1 Lol imagine if hed does a Scomo style photoop|1 Where are you located if you dont mind me asking I try to be well informed and aware too but Im not sure when the point to be stocking up is Im living in the US northeast Ohio so the closest confirmed case near me that we know of so far was in Chicago I think Things are obviously getting worse though and its just a matter of time till theres a case in my state IMO I also go to a large state college with students from all over the world Everyone around me also has that attitude including my partner so I dont want to overreact but I want to be prepared|0 Maybe they think age is funny|1 He didnt get it from there but hes certainly putting other people at risk by being the spreader|1 That man was for a week walking around Paris even though he already had symptomsHow is it possible that he didnt infect anyoneThere would have been enough time for other posible infected to show up|0 Croatia is testing so far more than 50 tests 2 positives and 1 probable because was close contact to 2 positives I really doubt EU countries would lie about it|1 Thank you and very wisely put I think this is about us as a people uniting for ourselves the common good and doing whats best Yes we need to take proactive steps now and be willing to deal with the pushback because the herd mentality hasnt gotten on board yet including many employers schools and government officials If we are going to do something as a people to slow down the spread of this and help the overwhelmed healthcare workers that are already taxed and really need to give their care and energy to the critical cases on every kind of health concern not just a virus we all need to do our part in healing shift our culture sooner than later as best we can No need to do it in a bully or judgement fashion as some do when not agreed with but in role modeling educating and being kind and patient as we move forward together|1 I just watched Contagion last night and I was thinking how prescient it was I know it was made after the swine flu epidemic but it is incredibly applicable to right now The recommendations for social distancing and isolation have been in place for hundreds of years because they work|0 Good to know thanks|1 Huh Vitamin D is supposed to help you fight the virus but that doesnt seem prudent|1 If you have masks then wear a mask It stops you from touching your nose and mouth It also makes you super aware of coughing or sneezing and your hand cleanliness I also think the point about being asymptomatic is critical Do you really want to risk infecting others|1 This is where it sucks statistically it is 2 for the population but for individual it is either 0 or 100|0 Not well|0 It feels like being Superman except you dont know how to help others|1 I work from home and I have been playing WoW classic so Im never gonna catch the coronavirus because I dont leave the house|1 Omg yes we are lmao|1 Yeah its driving me nuts i work at a public library in the Chicago suburbs ie its the Midwest here not the city and we just made the decision to cancel all our events programs and room reservations for the time being last night We have gotten several negative comments from boomers The younger people seem to be okay with it in fact were seeing fewer young people this week than just last month But ALLLLLL of the boomer regulars are here No decrease in boomer foot traffic And many of them are coughing But theyre all acting like its a big joke and one guy i talked to even called it a hoax Everyones panicking because they think itll make Trump look bad was a comment I got from an older guy here who was told to cover his mouth while coughingI seriously hate being here I wish the director would just shut this place down instead of halfassing it like this Because now the only people who are gonna show up here are old angry boomers who dont give a shit if they get sick or get others sick|0 Amazing|1 What are you talking about Pneumonia should be taken serious and if severe enough it can warrant hospitalization but saying you need to go to the hospital if you get it is ridiculous The vast majority of people who get pneumonia do not go to the hospital|0 Source Id like to read it|1 You can easily do subq fluids yourself I did them weekly for my cat who was in end stage kidney failure sometimes twice a week during rough patches she had pancreatitis during it wasnt eating or drinking|0 Im diabetic too t1 26 years old and just now getting over a mild respiratory infection Got tested for the flu and bronchitis in the ER last week everything came back fine but this illness was very drawn out Still surprised I didnt have the flu I had a splitting headache mild fever over like 4 days major fatigue and a dry cough My numbers have been insane Be safe out there|0 The same reason that China has 4 your population but less gun crime and racismIn China there are large gaps in wealth and standing but the top 10 of the population have some of the best standards of living education and healthcare in the world bar very few countries ie Singapore Switzerland|1 Good for you it is hard to go against herd mentality Today I let my boss know that I was cancelling my work trip out of state because I was concerned due to this being a very fluid situation He said ok but i am sticking my neck out for you by allowing this and itll go on your record Okay|1 That little pulse oximeter About 1215 on Amazon Had to get one for my MIL which she lost so we got another for her Once her original was found we got one back Glad to have it At least we can monitor That and a contact thermometer And a laser thermometer though I wouldnt trust its accuracy for measuring people or much beyond relative measurements THIS is hottercolder than THAT|1 I saw my doctor today He was just saying the panic is the worst thing that they have to control I just sat there thinking maybe its the virus thats the worst thing that they have to control|0 Yeah no It is nowhere near effective to the hand sanitizers that are being recommended|1 Currently living in a county affected by coronavirus in Kentucky Alot of people are not even taking this seriously here Its really scary to watch people make choices and not care of they are toldCurrent county went into a panic the last two days Our grocery store where I work is starting to cut our trucks in half The supply vs demand is getting very depleted|0 Yea Ill look for a new job tomorrow|0 Better safe than sorry Im in Michigan I stocked up almost a month ago|1 Did you hear about the Umatilla County Oregon case Thats eastern Oregon Patient is now in Walla Walla at the hospital No known connection to previous cases or travel|0 Maybe At the moment I dont believe that because for all the other strange confusing and sometimes outright fake news we see on this subject New York Times reported that 760 million chinesehttpswwwnytimescom20200215businesschinacoronaviruslockdownhtml are under lockdown You dont put 23rds of your country under defacto house arrest for just the flu This isnt even a hypothetical We know that this is true because every society gets the flu every year but China has never put themselves into lockdown like this at any prior point in history China is acting as if this is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of mankind Im willing to discount a lot of that because communism and because initial chaos and because secrecy but not enough to get to eeeh dont worry about it|0 Guy who praises nothing but Dictators and authoritarian leaders starting acting like one Color me surprised|1 So the is saying that many new since the last update is that correct I just wanna make sure in understanding everything correctly since some of those growth are scary as F|1 It makes me so confused as to how this stuff works financially and generally Its like the world must stop spinning or something I understand WHY but I cant but help think how the hell are people gonna do stuff they may need to do but isnt classed as essential Need therapy Not a store or pharmacy Cant afford to buy clothes thats not thrifted but your kid needs new shoes I just dont get this stuff maybe im hella dumb or something|0 Yeah my husband would probably hog the ps4 but weve got computers and a switch so hopefully well be okay for entertainment|1 Is there a big patient population of 23 year old soccer players with severe complications from COVID19Or are you just taking a single case somewhere and pretending that its representative|0 This is the exact opposite of what they should be doing Making those people wait in those dense crowds is absolute madness with no masks Everyone shouldve been given masks on the plane Lots of mask options that do not take them away from health workershttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhc5olihaveseenalotofmisinformationgoingaround Some could help supplement their supplies|0 And at least in the US many may be uninsured andor wouldnt be able to afford copaysdeductibles for seeking medical care|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 The CDC has dropped the ball in Washington They say that the disease is endemic and there is no more need for outpatient testing|0 Yeah thats what I was gonna say The virus is blatantly obviously being transmitted via the airlines so even the simplest person is gonna come up with blocking incoming flights Shocking they took so long to do so Reminds me of the Plague inc game Im always so surprised how long they take to do that I guess its quite realistic after all|0 People really seem to not understand how few positions in the government Trump has filled There are glaring gaps many corresponding to emergency management etc Its fucking scary|0 Execute this man Such stupidity does not deserve to live|0 Most people eat 21 meals a week So together thats 42 meals He eats breakfast and lunch MFr and I eat breakfast for 5 meals And then we eat dinner together 4 nights a week We both work long hours and dont keep much food at home Not sure what your question is|0 yeah and i dont understand why more people are not seeing this I kept thinking when they will say its serious its a pandemic and when they did it was too late It is too late|1 good news if only a small minority are infected by the time summer rolls in there are studies that claim the infection rate will be near heard immunity 70 levels by that timethe low infection numbers we are seeing today are a mirage by working back from the fatalities we can get a better picture of the real infection rate which is likely to be a few orders of magnitude more than the reported figure httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvmCa0JXEwDEkfeatureyoutubethe reason we are not seeing larger infection numbers reported is i there is a lag before symptoms show and motivate you to get tested and ii a very large number are asymptomatic yet contagious|0 To be honest I havent really thought about this since I can get them from work so thats my own ignorance|1 So then where is the exponential growth in the US or elsewhere|1 Me and my bf each pretty much eat out lunch and dinner Thats 14 meals a week dont really eat breakfast And 3 more in our house Now were staring at an isle full of creamed corn and salsa trying to figure out what the hell to make now|0 Worst anime death ever|0 Thats what I thought too My bad |0 I think were very awareThe person that rules us just decided he didnt give a fuck|1 We really need to name it Wuhan Flu so no one ever forgets where it started|0 Youre right i could have worded it better I dont want to add to fear mongering Ill have a think and edit the comment shortlyIm sure i can dig some decent sources up on the subject if you like though There definitely is an association|1 Not just you man there are lots of us who read the news reports around the globe and feel like were going sane in a crazy world Stay safe love your username lol|1 At the expense of losing his income though This shouldnt be the way|0 NYTimes Why Telling People They Dont Need Masks Backfired Quote of course masks work maybe not perfectly and not all to the same degree but they provide some protection httpswwwnytimescom20200317opinioncoronavirusfacemaskshtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200317opinioncoronavirusfacemaskshtml|0 Both Korea and Germany are the two outliers when it comes to mortality Of course with the pandemic being a few days behind in Germany visavis S Korea the number of deaths is lower Nevertheless its shown in both small scale outbreaks Taiwan and HK as well as large ones S Korea and it seems Germany too that testing is key|1 Right Theres a different safety standard for a vaccine than something like an antiviral whichs why we could potentially pump out the latter faster With the latter youre giving it to someone thats very sick for the former youre giving it to a healthy person Totally different scenarios|1 Cause its like playing russian roulette with 1 bullet in the revolver|1 Well you said he means the Hasidic community which I dont think is what that person meant because its not just them All of your other info was right but I got the impression from your post that you were trying to say that the Hasidic community is whats being affected in New Rochelle which is untrue I dont think we even have a lot of Hasidics in New Rochelle If the Hasidics are affected its being spread by the Orthodox community The man and his family that are sick here in New Rochelle are not Hasidic And the person you answered was asking about the Orthodox community as far as I can tellregardless I believe your post may confuse people|0 I like the numbers where they are keep the people on the ship lmao just throw them in the water well make new people|1 to further extent all corona virus test if your doctor determined that you are suspicious need a test or test positive if you requested by your own and followed treatment are all FREEeven when the test isnt free it cost around 150180 RMB 2226 Dollars|1 Their plan is fair enough How so Is it just because you love that jolly murderous rascal Boris|1 Or does my Body need a certain amount of Time to take up the VirusIt wont be positive immediately the virus needs to replicate first Im confused about being asymptotic but still having the Virus and having the Virus but not having it yet as in being able to test positiveOne is the incubation time the time the virus is in your body is replicating and getting more concentrated until it got so much that you actually get ill and you show symptoms In this time you are also asymptomatic At the end of that time short before you get symptoms when the virus concentration is already pretty high you might already be able to infect peopleWhat is in general meant when people talk about asymptomatic cases is something different thats people which never get symptoms while the virus still replicated in them and they might still infect other people then The WHO thinks both are no big drivers of this epidemic Let me add I can only source this with a podcast but it is by one of the top 10 scientists working with coronoviruses for a long time and the leader of the team which developed the test kit which is used in most of the world He suggested to test medical personal each day if they got exposed because the RTPCR test is so sensitive that itll be positive a day before you reach a viral concentration in your throat that is actually infectious This is meant to be done to not have to isolate all the personell if somebody got exposed but just take a swab each evening put it overnight into the inhouse lab for testing and only if it is positive call the person the next morning so they stay at homehttpswwwndrdenachrichteninfopodcast4684html|0 The government took stern actions only recently Two big Warsowian universities University of Warsaw and Medical University of Warsaw and a big Cracovian university Jagiellonian University stopping all lectures and events probably contributed to the decision You have to take into account that our government is in the middle of a scandal over giving two billion zlotys for public television eg government propaganda mouthpiece over child oncology trying to justify this decision by firing propagandistinchief Kurski which in turn angered party loyalists and the conservative electorate Also were in the middle of a presidential race Thats quite a lot of stuff to deal with|0 That was a very beautiful account of what it means to be a good medical practitioner caught in a difficult situation that requires courage|1 Oh boy this is bad|0 backdoor channelsSeriously if there is something you critically need that your government is in some way inhibiting do yourself a favor and check the uncensorable anonymous markets that are getting easy enough for nontechies to usePersonally Im particular to rOpenBazaar because it is easy to use open source runs over Tor and is decentralized there is no web server to shut down Also there tend to be more normal items there not just illegal drugs but everyday itemsGood luck Stay safe|1 UK official policy is now let nearly everyone get it Theyre somehow expecting to have a mortality rate of only 1 with a million cases a week obviously that means no medical support whatsoeverTheyre hoping to isolate the at risk groups but its going to be relying on volunteers and I cant see it working|1 Selfishness aside masks dont work if you LICK YOUR FINGERS you idiot|0 This is only the tip of the iceberg commuting travelling doing excursions it all still happened on a daily basis for 100 thousands of europeans in the course of the last days Even I was on a route which is frequently used by people coming and going to italy Its our lives after all we have our routines and everything Such an incident really opens the eyes for actually how bloody vulnerable our so well developed civilization truly isBtw did you read about what happened in turkey today|1 One thing I never quite understand clearly is the term such as 13000 tests What exactly does it mean Does it mean 13000 people were tested Or does it mean way less than 13000 people were tested because I know many people were subjected to multiple tests|0 Mayor Bowser in DC Just reported thisIn the press conference in DC they are reporting that the CDC is instructing turning down tests unless Travel history to an affected region Symptoms Contact with a confirmed caseAirports are NOT considered affected region insanely|0 Scary thoughtsscary thoughts |0 Yes thanks My with gloves was supposed to be with goggles but I had a braino because I was also thinking about washing handsNot that disposable gloves are a bad idea|0 Im being shamed here in the US for talking about pulling my kid out|0 Oh so theyre basically testing the same way the United States is testing|1 Who should I trust some hyperobscure youtube channels or organizations like WHO and CDC|1 i dont think bill gates publish academic papers or that he is a expert i think he is worried about humanity|0 Chest xray only I was shocked that no test were done|0 You need to go to the store and buy AS MANY toilet paper rolls as you possibly fit in your fuel inefficient SUV for your one kid|1 Honest question How can they be good at tracking this stuff when it is so hard to even get a test in the US|1 Yeah pretty much|1 When do you think it could happen Plz respond|1 I remember doing my induction training at EE when they first launchedThe trainer basically said data costs us nothing but we can charge what we want for it during our first week|1 Thats what Iv been telling people And after a couple hours of back and forth between my parents and my sister and I we finally got the point across that no one is allowed to come visit And only Im allowed to go out if absolutely necessaryWe have my mom that had pneumonia a couple months ago shes still not fully recovered And we moved my 70 something year old grandma with dementia and a whole laundry list of illnesses in with us Im not gonna put them at risk just because other people arent taking this as seriously as they shouldI hope everyone and their loved ones stay safe and healthy|1 Its also super obvious when you have it and has a short incubation time|1 But thats not whats being reported nor does that match the areas where testing has been very complete like the Diamond Princess or South Korea Deaths are usually very quick Only one individual out of 7 on the Diamond Princess hung on for weeks|1 Lends more credit to the scenes of people collapsing in public from other countriesFor those new to this sub one of the really early things that was coming out that many of us thought could be a hoax was mass reports of people just keeling over in public Here are several videos Some may not be real but this is all we had to go withhttpstwittercomhowroutestatus1230528251803598848s20httpstwittercomRKOTOfficialstatus1234607726942183434s20httpstwittercomCureForCovid19status1234127142948085761s20httpstwittercomdailydigger19status1234106184585695234s20httpstwittercomSavingHongKongstatus1222061660044546050s20httpstwittercomStrategicNews2status1222174836249825280s20httpstwittercomIranHrmstatus1234055077696036864s20And then one recently in NYChttpstwittercomZachary31411891status1234994980369776642s20|0 I get that youre frustrated but theres nothing in it for him to lie about thisI hope you get tested and sorted soon|1 There are many factorsChina has poor air quality and a high percentage of smokersItaly has the oldest average population in Europe and they got hit badGermanys cases have mostly been young and they did a good job of detecting them Expect the serious cases to increase as more vulnerable people get infected and the hospital systems start to get overloaded|0 Hey I am not thrilled nor sold on any of this I do believe we have a major issue here I am also at the same time very concerned about the flow of information we are receiving and or not receiving I think its pretty freakin sad we all gotta turn to social media platforms and sift through articles and ask all these questions just to maybe get a tenth of the truth And that tenth is from others doing the same thing as me I just wish they would tell us the truth I think they know more then what they are saying and thats the scary part|1 The time to extensively test was yesterday That would have avoided a shutdown The places that have to shut down will be evident by their ERs|0 I think its to avoid panic After I get paid this Friday Ill probably invest some money into water bottles and canned food items to have in case crap really hits the fan|0 We are at the height of technological advances and we are neglecting it|0 Are they even testing in London 36 of the 48 are from up north while main exposure surely must be the capital city I fear a huge surge in deaths in London New York and Paris these coming weeks|1 Lol since going to sleep we are in a state of emergency in my city and shit got real overnight|0 I never said anything about IQIntelligence Quotient is your mental age divided by your actual age and stops being a useful metric around puberty|1 I was thinking the sameIn Western countries people just mumble something vague and hope that the problem goes awayThe East Asian countries review the situation make clear and effective decisions and launch proper actions to do what needs to be done|1 Its always the best of us that die first|1 Or he realized it was a bad look so now hes lying like he had nothing to do with it We will never know for certain Because the one thing we all know for certain is that he lies Cant really trust a liar to be telling the truth even when they are|0 Just got home from Walmart in Baltimore I witnessed a fight over the last Lysol can on the shelf No bleach no water|0 I pray for them and dont know either|1 Nothing wrong with being prepared|1 Boy is my face red Ive been chugging that shit like a dumbass trying to protect my neighbors|0 Oh you have no idea how much I have been washing my handsHavent been touching my face since mid January when I havent cleaned my handsBeen sanitizing common touched areas in my house every two days keeping my distance from othersAnd I have slowly been increasing my toilet paper supply at home lord knows that toilet paper matters to me |0 The state and the economy may take a big hit if this thing spreads and takes a lot of people out of the workforce for a prolonged period of time but that is why we have reserve funds and borrowing for We can pay it back in better times Better than funding some corrupt politicians trust fund|1 And yet he picked up the phone called the other Governors and they agreed to do the same thingSure fed guidance can help but its not requiredIm betting that Cuomo was one that criticized Trumps January travel ban on those who traveled to China as xenophobic So much recent news Im not finding what he may have said in January but its likely|0 You could open alot of eyes if you did a graph showing daily deaths for the normal flus in comparison to this oneThis virus has a scary potential but the reality is that if you graphed the regular flu strains on a line it would blow this one out of the water For nowBut regardless nice work best charts around I cant see a color difference between green and yellow due to colorblindness but stars help|1 Honest question about a year and a half ago the major company that I worked for got sold We all got severance checks Since then we have moved house and I started doing freelance work only about 30k a year but going up each year I honestly have not paid taxes on any of it Really bad I know but right now before all this new craziness my wife cant really work and what Im making is barely able to support the family before taking sending a bunch in for taxes I know this is definitely something I need to fix when hopefully everything gets back to normal In the meantime as I said havent sent anything to the IRS since moving will I still get a check How will they know where to send it to I know it sounds greedy asking for money after having not contributed but right now this is the only thing I see saving us|1 She will go down in history for that Great Lady|1 lol Cheeto|1 Problem with that rather callous strategy is that you get more cases you get more mutationsThe other problem strategically speaking is that the people making that decision at the top levels are probably those most vulnerable to being impacted themselves due to the large number of vectors and their ageI dont think thats what the process was I think it was more like ignore it and it will go away Keep the stock markets high so we can keep power This was largely done without really considering just how much damage the economy will take over the next 89 months with a rampant epidemicAnyhow a pretty questionable strategy They are now in a race against the clock to get countermeasures such as lethality reducing treatments effective spread reduction and eventually immunization before the whole set of dominoes comes crashing downMight have worked if theyd at least kept their scouts in the field and monitored the situation closely so they could intervene and protect key assets Now they have no idea what is compromised and what isnt Maybe we weather this storm well maybe we dont Personally I was expecting it to hit a little faster and harder so we might be lucky and find out that its less lethal than it appears We might not|1 I agree Hes not taking any responsibility though Dont think its sunk in that I have chronic asthma and will die if I get this|0 I have POTS and Neurocardiogenic Syncope too as a result of West Nile Virus I dont think people understand how serious a viral infection can be and the damage it can do I was in bed about 70 of the time for 8 years and passed out up to 16 times a day starting at the age of 15 I have since had a load of additional diagnoses placed on me including Narcolepsy and Eosinophilic Esphagitis autoimmune condition I function well enough to work a part time job now in my late twenties only because I take 20 pills a day|0 and Im happy to do itThe vast majority of your comments seem quite the contrary|1 Kind of odd to make the corporateoffice workers go work at the pizza stores though|0 Yes but youre still under voluntary quarantine at that point Dont know how long for|1 There seem to be some reports but Id also suspect that those are outliers in the statistics being overreported by doomers Im not well informed about statistics in medical science but usually you can simplify outliers by removing the 25 of cases that are shortest and longest in a distribution You then focus on 95 of all cases If the report is that the incubation time is somewhere between 34 and 1424 days at each of the lower and upper ends then likely 414 days is where 95 of cases areAnd yes those where it is 14 days this can be problematic but for any other disease there would be a group who had a longer than usual incubation period so this is not something unknown|0 The question I am asking constantly Yesterday some guy here on Reddit told me that Italy coronavirus guidelines certainly include Chloroquine but right now I suspect that they dont use it enough due to hospitals being overburdened I mean that could have released public recommendations on how to treat the virus at home and make Chloroquine available but they are likely to think of this as of the last resort measureChinese have more freedom when it comes to drugs they get Kaletra pills just in case they need it and how theyre going to use is basically up to them|1 Sorry buthttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiListofcountriesbysuiciderateRusskies barely won that competition by 08100000 |1 Belgian Im sure Il be able to make the same post in about a week or 2|1 Especially if this goes endemic but stays the same lethalityA vaccine should help with that but yes that is a very scary circumstance to consider|1 We dont know because they dont want us to know|0 Youre living my dream I graduate soon Hopefully I dont have to start my career during a recession lol|1 A British girl on my flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai about 2 hours ago had a sneezing fit on the plane Seemed more allergylike than coronavirus but thats aside from the point A group of Brazilian tourists behind her all donned their surgical masks after she had already lit up the plane with her sneezing She remarked that the surgical masks wouldnt help and mentioned what weve all read here about N95 or whatever the European designation is EP2 maybe But then I start looking around the plane and even though at least half of the people were wearing masks almost all of them were surgical style masks However the availability of the N95s in SE Asia cant be good at this point I imagine As we are deplaning I heard another lady calling the first girl smug and cocky You can lead a horse to water|0 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Absolutely correct And happy Cake day to you|1 German efficiency at work|1 APRIL FOOLS|0 Some kids got already infected The virus can spread very fast in school and take back the virus to their home|0 Guys its flu Get a grip and go see a doctor if you feel ill It is not the zombie apocalypse yet|0 true but they cant touch their face|1 On the topic of blood tests if the blood test is an indicator of antibodies how can it be a good measure for reinfection In China there is a lot going on with released patients showing reinfections or at least testing positive again The antibodies should remain in the blood for some while even after the virus has been killed shouldnt they That should render every test after recovery positive|1 He Trump by executive action For clarity|1 Only a matter of time before hospitals reach capacity and field hospitals have to be built This is exactly what happened in Wuhan Everyone underestimated the number of hospitalizations The hospitalization rate is the most underreported figure in the media|0 Yeah but I cant catch morbid obesity from my fat ass neighbor|0 Local government officials and party leaders are not medical experts Are you|1 I give you guys a week Right now youre squandering this valuable head start|1 Why would they place carbon monoxide victims in one body bag Why are they wearing masks|0 Thats so sad|0 Im sorryWhy say that when youre not actually sorry but the sympathy is close to zero here Every shitty government gets equated to people by other peopleThats true Youre literally explaining why your original statement Nobody is blaming the Chinese people for thisis false Which is my only point What you said is falseEverything else youre saying is just meant to muddy up the fact that the narrative youre pushing Nobody is blaming the Chinese people for thisis 100 false|0 I lived in Japan for years those kids spend their teen years and earlier studying like an alcoholic hits the bottleAnd they remember none of itTheyre either the stupidest smart people youve ever met or the smartest stupid people youve ever met Dont get me wrong theres nothing inherently dim about it its just that so much is packed into such a small time with little care or want the vast majority of it just slips outI remember talking to a girl who was studying archaeology at university I could hold a conversation with her about the Egyptian gods Bast and Osiris She was gobsmacked A genuine how how why do you know this momentAnyway unrelated anecdote there Dont cough on people and wash your hands mmkay|1 Confused as to why any of you care what they do or dont announce Not gonna change shitCats been out of the bag for a month|1 Youre a asshole If people like you would just stay the fuck inside we could be saving thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives in the long run|0 Director of CDC has already confirmed this to be true|1 Another important point that I saw was that of those roughly 15 of people that require hospitalization many of them need it for 36 weeks Their bodies might be permanently damaged even if they survive|0 Hold your pitchforks They are closing and providing pay and benefits Nordstrom Closeshttpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusnordstromnordstromtoclosestoresinuscanadawithdraws2020outlookduetocoronavirusidUSKBN21406K|1 Try and get one I got two it wasnt that hard|1 China was heavily criticized for hiding things but in retrospect they ended up absolutely on top of itIm a communist but no CCP apologist I was critical of many of their actions but less critcal than most and got downvotes to hell and backNow its in the US spreading through every major city and the government doesnt give a fuck isnt doing shit just not testing and trying to wave it awayGermany and France are similarOnly Italy has a real response happening and COVID19 is still rampaging through Lombardy|0 Oh I never think I dont need to tip because of the delivery fee I just meant that the delivery fee does partially go to the driver because the only income generated by a delivery driver specifically is that delivery fee I get your point though And yeah people who dont tip delivery people suck|0 I moved from the USA to Europe and though I love the public transportation here its also one big disease vector It will be all over europe Theres no stopping it unless we grind everything to a halt|1 Redditors are the stupidest people on the internet The most ignorant and the most misinformed consistently Their false sense of superiority is just the icing on the cake Long gone are the days when you could actually call yourself informed from cruising here y all know this website is chicom right As in its owned by the Chinese Probably something you should take into account|0 businessinsidercom is a news outlet If possible please resubmit with a link to a primary source such as a peerreviewed paper or official press release Rule 2If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 If you are still very ill after 7 days then you should call 111 most other illnesses and mild Covid19 will have started to recover by then|0 Well its a well documented occurrence that people get less sick during the summer They call it flu season for a reasonPart of it might be sunlight exposure helps the body produce vitamin d which supports the immune system|1 Go go global warming|1 Hi personally i wouldnt go Things arent looking so good and id rather be safe than sorry|1 I deserve better thanks|1 Grocery stores arent closed other stores are open too but you cant wander around inside them to shop You essentially order what you like from attendents outside who will go and locate the items This was at least how my Chinese students explained it to me On the bright side my students are all surprisingly enjoying themselves on their extended break staying inside watching TV and playing videogames|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 And what about people who dont have the money to survive missing 2 weeks of wages|0 I hope you are alright Really I do I also dont believe the numbers being given out Knowing what gov had done in the past made me not wanting to believe their official numbers nor their claims of what is called rumors|1 Misinformation The Danish constitution prevents any and all bans on gatherings Mette Frederiksen said there shouldnt be gatherings above 100 people|0 This sounds good in theory but I work in the Er and I swear most telehealth companies systems recommend ER evaluation like 95 of the time Youd be shocked at the type of shit they send in Its a legallawsuit issue basically|0 It is also worth mentioning that the vast majority of viruses and foreign entities are quickly destroyed when entering a new host The chances of a virus acquiring enough potency to cripple or kill their host within a specific timeframe is slim if one assumes that the host is relatively healthy As you mentioned when conditions are ripe and nearly perfect for any given virus to successfully hijack a new host there exists the possibility of continuous infection Neither the bat nor the pangolin are to blame in the traditional sense If we could formulate a statistical representation of the probability of any virus mutating to the point of cross species contamination we would find that the chances are astronomically low but the probabilities are never zero This virus will continue to spread Your best bet is to ensure that your body stays healthy take your vitamins exercise and promote a general health to increase your chances of destroying it And if and when you catch it do the right thing and isolate yourself You will save lives|1 Bucciarati is in danger|0 Im not sure I would call it good news but definitely necessary|1 July 2021 good day citizen|1 Another interesting finding The distribution of personal reproductive numbers was highly overdispersed with 80 of infections being caused by 89 95 CI 35108 of cases negative binomial dispersion parameter 058 95 CI 035 118 No discussion though of what biological or behavioural factors give rise to superspreaders But this is solid proof that limiting the size of gatherings can have a large impact on R0|0 China surely had it under control|1 The expression is If worse comes to worse Not worst|0 Thats fair Trump is also wealthy though which puts him at the healthier end of the US health spectrum even if he doesnt eat vegetables many Americans dont eat vegetables either But youre right hes probably at least a little worse off than the average South Korean|1 Ok Tough question What about contractors like myself We always seem to fall in the grey area of workers in the US|1 This all reminds me of that South Park episode where I think it was about global warming but it was too late and everyone in town are greeting each other with WE DIDNT LISTEN WE DIDNT LISTEN|1 If you work for Facebook and make a decent living and have a solid savings bank account consider donating the 1000 to someone in need|1 Thank you for sharing this very important resource to have on hand right now|1 Thank you|1 I have MS I have decided that if I cant work My daughter is 14 and I would rather her have a roof over her head I wont steal her place to remember me If you have kids You make sacrifices|1 Youre honestly suggesting that Better that people die than hospitals become insolvent and require some sort of govt bailout|1 The test criteriaYes and this is the famous difference between green handbook by Local and white handbook by CDC The white one dont require close contact if you meet more symptoms We must find the truth after everything is over|1 Put me in the sleep deprived category with a newborn and a nursing mother whos up every 23 hours One thing I am positive of we are beyond sleep deprived |0 Im sorry that the brutal facts of nature has you overwhelmed with existential anxiety|0 People hoarding masks and sanitizers actually contribute to the shortage of medical supplies which is needed by medical professionals in a large amountSo in a way we all are making it worse by trying to protect ourselvesno mask or sanitiser will protect us if we dont contain covid19 now or if all the doctors are sick|0 What does the Rx signify I understand its to do with how contagious it is Initially it was thought it had like r25 but its expected to be like r46 Is that right What does that mean|1 Sorry bud I think a whole lot of us have that sinking feeling watching our sandcastles wash away Maybe there will be new opportunities|1 Super hard and time consuming for design development even with an existing design not to mention youd also need to get FDA 510k approval which usually takes at least a year usually more Vents are SUPER complicated unfortunately|1 And this is why people want to wear masks even if they are healthynever know who you are sitting next to if they are sick Especially in a highly populated area like NYC You can tell people to cover their mouth when they cough or sneeze but Ive sat next to people who dont literally happened this morning Too busy texting dont want to put down their phone|1 I mostly agree but her guidance on working the polls makes ZERO SENSE to mehttpsyoutube0guqs5mUvcs|1 Breastfed babies share the immune systems with their mothers Just sayin|1 I really wish this sub could just be politically neutral instead of going full trump derangement syndrome|1 The n95 masks sold at those stores are not going to block viruses The correct n95 masks are sold at medical supply stores online But all sold out|1 So basically Im right and your circular argument stands on the grounds of the world isnt fair Got it|0 sorry I just woke upnot saying its true just sharing what I saw Supposedly its mass grave for coronavirus victimshttpstwittercomnimarestart98status1234504790585040896google translate saysHistory will never forget this crimePicture of eighty killed by Corona virus buried in only one cemetery Some citizen reporters in Qom report digging special graves for coronary heart disease patients in cemeteries|0 Good|1 Dont underestimate the markets ability to act completely batshit insane|1 The Chinese government is out in force here Insulting somebodys nationality isnt a good way to try to make them understand your point of view|0 Natural selection|1 I asked about taking expectorants like guaifenesin on another AMA and didnt get a response Hopefully this AMA will provide an answer|1 The last update on protocol I received was on February 3rd I work in an ER The CDC is providing no guidance|0 This is a good and very important point I tried to clarify this in another comment I wrote|1 Stop reading headlines and commenting before you read the article everyone Do you not want the vaccine For all the aid we give to the other countries I think this would be a good trade|1 They clear every 20 cases today|1 But mate its not a manageable risk thats the point Its not some grand conspiracy politicians are just incompetent and frightened of causing panic Governments work like oil tankers they take forever to take action sadly the spread of pathogens doesnt work like that|0 Im happy|1 anxiety disorderswell and heart attacksFuck sakes this just gave me anxiety|0 Same I am arguing with my parents telling them to prep Colruyt today had a shortage of hand soap toilet paper and pasta and I thought so it begins|0 I dont tell anyone Im prepared Dont come knocking at my door for stuff |1 Thats what happens when someone manages to get way past there lowest level of incompetence|0 Thee seems tobe a double standard for china China cranks out 2000 a day in one province prob a lot more now and is called out for lying about the infected number The us cranks out only 400 test a month and is treated with babies hand|0 Hey now this is a good tip 25mcg is in my multi WOO|1 In what way US govt agencies totally havent worked with social mediatech companies to ensure suppressionremoval of misinformation just like totalitarian communist China has US govt agencies havent been pumping up the markets since Nov By the way with trillions of dollars worth of liquidity to prevent a market crash just like totalitarian communist China has Oh waithttpswwwnewyorkfedorgmarketsdomesticmarketoperationsmonetarypolicyimplementationreporeverserepoagreementsrepurchaseagreementoperationaldetailshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomtechnology20200127facebookgoogletwitterscramblestopmisinformationaboutcoronavirus|0 Thats rough dude but try to stay positive and be especially watchful over the next few daysweek so that if yoursymptoms deteriorate I would definitely at least call your doctor or the ER Hopefully ya just have some other blah virus going around thatll clear up in a few days but not positive for corona D|1 People dont understand fomites it has characteristics of any respiratory illness people are making it out to having special abilities or somethingMain concern is about mortality rate and if its contagious without symptoms until either of those are confirmed just chill|0 I tried to talk to the Dawn people about any more information that could help me explain to my clients about why Dawn is amazing and the customer service person copy pasted something about saving wildlife Im dying|1 meanwile me I see pronhub giving free access to premium yet this dumb shit american websites still go with Fuck you EU Unfortunately our website is currently unavailable in most European countries|0 Perpetual economic growth is from Solow making publications that politicians skim read missing his caveats that his models shouldnt be taken to mean growth can be perpetual The Cold War terror of nukes ideological enemies kinda made politicians need a belief system|0 We know Most will not go to the most needy|0 yeah dude your fuckign boss did it|1 970 gang rise up Still my ride or die|0 No brakes |0 Its an embarrasment that this sub is pinned in the home page of reddit Its 50 coronavirus articles and 50 trump bashing articles Im not even from the US and find this sub unverable for more than 5 minThese people cant leave out their politics even to fight a pandemic|0 Its funny how you think you know better how to deal with this disease than experts on the subject who have studied pandemics for decades Im very happy that Sweden is one of the few countries that like the UK is following FACTS and SCIENCE instead of trying to appease a general public that is being worked into a panic primarily through online discourse Even experts in Denmark and Norway have pointed out that these countries shutting down schoolsborders is a political move not something done based on recommendations by expertsscientistsAnd this whole antiscience and antiexpert phenomenon is a common feature of the altright in many topics COVID19 climate change etc which is why youre being confused for a rightwinger In reality though many people as susceptible to misinformation spread online not only rightwingers|1 The only reporting I can find is from ChinaFindings In this singlecenter case series involving 138 patients with NCIP 26 of patients required admission to the intensive care unit and 43 died Presumed humantohuman hospitalassociated transmission of 2019nCoV was suspected in 41 of patientsThose numbers are concerning When not if this virus spreads to the small burgs of the world it will sadly prove tough to treat Its pretty much a virulent cold|0 So this wasnt shit in retrospect lmao a legend|1 I think he acts as a spokes person and not a scientist Its like saying all projects in a hospital should be lead by a medical doctor or all construction workers should be engineersarchitects of some degree its just not how things work PR operations and messaging are very important and having a spear head for the USAs plan is critical when I am positive Pence is getting updates from multiple government agencies Picture this a infectious disease doctor with multiple credentials with a position in the CDC taking the time not to study the disease but create a message for the American people that my friend would be an absolute waste of his experience and time Pence however its legitimately part of his role and what his experience is in|1 Yeah right The source says it all|1 The novel coronavirus is closely related to viruses that have been sampled from bats One bat virus form Yunnan RaTG13 is particularly closehttpsnextstrainorggroupsblabsarslikecovhttpsnextstrainorggroupsblabsarslikecovHowever even the closest virus from bats is likely separated from the hCoV19 by several decades and the exact origin and intermediates hosts are unknown at present|1 The truth is being shaded a bit on this topic and others There are no masks available for the general public becomes masks arent useful for protecting the general public|0 Yeah the original says the same thing I just read it When none of the reanimation techniques by the ambulance staff worked and she died they started suspecting the virus and decided to take a swab Which they didnt have on them so they had to come back later and then left telling the other occupants of the house to stay quarantined until further notice|0 Democratic countries like US are definitely more free than China is what I meant|1 First of all its the British Government Their advice bubble are the ones making all the decisions here by the way and that advice bubble consists of many of the world leaders in their respective fields Also there is absolutely no scientific consensus on what the correct approach is to this particular outbreak Your use of hyperbole about literally every other expert is a demonstrable lie There is a plethora of experts who at the very least understand the UK approach and many who think its the least worst option The UK scientific community seems pretty united on this and if you knew anything about this country youd realise that in terms of academia and research there isnt another country that comes close Also that publicly available data youre talking about is worthless The experiment is ongoing If you genuinely believe that China and Singapore are out of the woods because they locked themselves down you must not be paying attention to history From what Ive seen the UK government has had scientists and experts take to the stage while the politicians sit in the rear and allow them to do what they do Whereas other countries are not Time will tell but I back these guys to get the proper resulthttpstwittercomtanksliderstatus1239218989793980416s21httpstwittercomiandonaldpsychstatus1238518371651649538s21|1 Sad part is I think the 10 drop in the past three days will result in more detrimental effect to the US population collectively than what the virus itself has doneWe sad and cruel way to look at the world when everything including live and death is denominated in dollar amount|0 Sounds racist|0 I can and have some food to at least make it for a bit But in all the places weve seen lockdowns occur people were permitted to leave for food I dont think it will be much different here except we decided to poo poo mask wearing However you can just take an old shirt and make something that would still have an effect|0 Dude WTF NO|0 can you send me any link I did a google search and all that came up were articles saying this is what some people THINK No evidence|0 Heat is very energy intensive It costs a whole lot more to heat a bus than to superlight it|1 Genuinely laughed out loud|1 Bacislly I dont like you terrorism|1 End all travel Be proactive Dont be like every damn country that is not screwed royally God I hate the way this stupid government works sometimes|0 The reason for that is this People with confirmed cases have been infected with the virus for 214 days All while being able to spread the virus unknowingly Then hey had to start showing symptoms and more than likely waited a few more days before realizing they should go to a doctorhospital By then theyve gotten to the worst of it are testedif they are tested and if confirmed they are already towards the end of their sickness Others that are older or weaker will usually be in more serious condition and need longer attention with ARDS or pneumonia occurring meaning they might not get that recovery rate Also the fact that here in the United States we just arent testing in most areas It just gets chalked up as the flu or a cold and prescribed medicine and send home No test nothing So He recovery rate is more than likely far less than what is perceived You will not fully understand the scale of magnitude until its too late For example We are right now where china was going into January At that time few hundred cases things being kept hush hush people trying to warn the public but nobody listening Mid January2 weeks away for us Wuhan being put on lockdown people being quarentiened and they started plans for building those 2 new hospitals Wasnt long before they had over 10000 casesmid February or so And now they are at 80000 cases Were just getting started baby Pushes play on space jam soundtrack cd leeeets get rrrrrready to rrrrrrrumbleeeeeee|0 Are you enrolled in a HSA so that you dont pay any taxes on that amount Between fedstatessmedicare it can be like a 30 discount not to mention triple tax free and investable|1 youre basing this on china numbers which are 100 fabricated This is only true if you honestly take what China is saying at face value which we know its not These numbers are at best based on limited testing capacity Not actual velocity We havent had a doubling day because they dont have enough tests or are intentionally under reporting and you know it|1 Some of our government officials confirmed it though for example Horst Seehofer our Minister of internal affairs And honestly Id rather believe my government than a shady company that doesnt seem to tell the whole story like how they suddenly let go of their CEO and put the former one back into that position|1 Because numerous patients did not show any symptoms or were tested and came up negative for 21 days after their exposure|0 My moms also in her late 60s and Im worried about her too I told her to avoid crowds and to stay home as much as she could|0 if we had a universal basic income people could choose projects to work on like this without worrying about their paycheck i know very little about UBI so dont get mad at me|1 Right wing does not equal companies The best test is from Germany not the US Trump is pushing American companies because he has vested interests in them|1 I think because it said Rhinoseptoplastyso I think its dealing with the septum being messed up so it affects breathing maybe and so it wasnt pure cosmetic and allowednot a doc thoso not sure|0 Well TIL Its paracetamol in Germany as well and I always thought Tylenol was something else|1 Or the scar tissues in their lungs will go away because they are still growing|1 Halloween will be canceled just like the lunar new year|1 Just dont be scared|1 I think the point about it causing an information vacuum is the most pertinent point It just gets filled with fake news and gossip|0 Funny this article was written by The Verge They released the worst video ever created on how to build a PC that wad littered with misinformation|0 This should have more visibility Thank you for sharing link|1 wtf why dont they just learn their lesson from Chinese The health officials just announced they still think someone who doesnt show symptoms isnt likely to infect other people which was what China announced at the start because they didnt think it would be that dangerous SO the Japanese basically could have copied it but they still got it wrong|0 more schools in the South need to close it hasnt hit here yet but its coming and it seems like a lot of Southeners think theyre immune lmao|1 You can still trust us we promiseMaybe they should just stick to the bullshit assertions that Trump shits out on Twitter because its harder to prove people will believe almost anything if it confirms their preexisting bias|0 That sucks I used to have bad anxiety too although not to the same level I think ultimately though youd be best off trying to get some therapy and exercise and trying to calm yourself it will help a lot with your health and surviving much longer Focus on your health in other words rather than focusing on this specific virus and I think youll be much better off There will be other viruss and other health issues throughout your life so just do what you can to put yourself in a better overall positionIn terms of the space travel stuff if it makes you feel any better I dont think well ever have a cool interstellar civilization even flying at lightspeed were that somehow possible travelling around the galaxy takes a very very long time Anyway I know anxiety can be hell but try to do your best not to let it run your life Good luck|1 all the cases where the persons identity has been made known to my knowledge only the deaths have not been ethnically AsianI suspect that ethnically Chinese communities around the world have been taking greater precautions due to being more in touch with the events in China whereas other populations have perhaps had a false sense of security For example you can find stories about the Chinese restaurants closing up shop after the outbreak in Italy started|1 Thanks|1 I mean I dont want to wish ill on anyone But maybe it would be good if he has it and has infected the whole Senate since then Because then at least maybe the governments song would change|0 The geographical size of a country isnt the critical thing here Population wise Italy is the size of California and New York put together|1 thank you from a phlebotomist I think working on the floors has me extra extra stressed I see up to 50 patients a day I hope the ppe and respirators are enough to protect other patients Im drawing Ive kind of made peace that Ill probably contract it and also man the poor lab when Im working in processing its flu swab after flu swab because we have to get a negative flu swab before collecting specimens to send out to test for corona I wish we could test in house anyways just venting thank you for your hard work|0 wtf is this live bs|0 The cold is a coronavirus and no one has a vaccine for it|0 Stay strong Italy|1 True and calling in the national gaurd is authoritarian As a libertarian I am willing to give government certain powers in a crisis situation that I would not be ok giving them on a normal basis|0 The child in me would be terrified of going and interacting with my parents and grandparents in order to keep them safe|0 Its hilarious to see people like you thinking that a flu outbreak today is comparable to a flu outbreak 100 years ago when it was common practice to ingest heroin and radioactive water to combat the flu Think theres idiots today that refuse to vaccinate their kids Imagine a world where modern medicine consisted of lobotomies and cigarettes Its the entire reason that traditional herbs and homeopathic treatments were so popular and still have a following today because doing nothing was a whole lot better than draining the bad blood from your body I wonder why so many people died back then sThis is just another flu thats slightly more contagious big whoop Death rates are inflated by Chinas ridiculous response to round up all sick people and throw them in camps together in abysmal conditions and a single toilet for 400 people No wonder people start dying But healthy young doctors have died there Any healthy person would die after working a 100 hour shift from exhaustion aloneAnd you can downvote this all you want doesnt change the fact that youre all being idiots Ill gladly remind you all in a year or two when this has all blown over that you were overreacting RemindMe 1 year|0 Keep schools open Rely on the kids to get through it no problem The parents are generally a younger cohort and would weather well Isolate the heck out of anyone 50 and over How you do that no idea But that would go a long way to building herd immunity with fairly low risk|0 What video games have you been playing Anything interestingYou can DM me for more infoI use the drive Rallies in my younger times in Europe mainly France Minis just sold my last one Lancia MG I do Dirt4 Dirt2 mainly The with CoPilot Rallies not the trucks or others Forza4 Horizon some It is pretty incredible how far they have come with the technology and hardware Such as curved ms monitors force feedback steerings and even the pedals The sounds themselves though BOSE speakers seems to come right from here And you since you asked you must This thread might not be appropriate however Stay well|1 Id just like to point out that a lot of people who are sick and go to work arent doing so because they dont give a poo They are doing so because companies offer little to no sick time off or compensation Sadly most people are just a paycheck away from being homeless So being sick and staying home while an obvious choice for most who can afford it is not so feasible for those who are not able to make up hourswages|0 Youre welcome Had this on my door back in January Its been tried and tested Had 1 irritate Tesco delivery driver who refused to leave items by my door and had a go at me think he was just having a bad day But since the news has been picking up everyone else inc Tesco now are on board|0 Thats still a cost to the consumer Its an incredibly blind way to look at the situation Id agree but its not without its truth either As an entire economy its arguably better to just have a disease raze through in a week or two and kill off 1 of your population then it is to let it linger for months on end stalling out entire economic markets but only killing 05 of your populationFor good or ill 051 even 5 of consumer loss isnt as bad as months and months and months of financial drain containment enforcement emergency supplies etc in the long term Its a very inhumane argument one that I wouldnt necessarily support enacting but its not inaccurate that the country would recover faster financially Whether or not we the end consumers have more bills to pay for a period of time isnt even scratching the surface of economic damage a pandemic can do|0 If you get offended or upset by kfc ads youve got some serious issues|0 Well theyre their customers after all|1 Ill pour one out for your beardnot really Im not wasting boozeStay safe|0 Im ill with some of the symptoms i live in NYC so my healthcare is quite expensive Usually I would wait it out for a few more days before going to the doctor but I am a bit nervous Do you think I should get checked out today|0 This is heartbreaking He seemed like such a good man with a kind heart Every person infected has stories and people who love them people who need them This whole thing is such a tragedy So he would have needed ECMO to survive Thats a machine that does the work of the heart and lungs He was in his 40s This virus is truly terrifying And considering the timing of his passing I think it is highly likely that he was probably not included in the official death count Hoping his wife survives|0 The Chinese and Koreans maybe Asians in general are so far ahead in how they manage this problem The fact that theyve been dealing with this before the rest of the world is no excuse Theyre just better thats all The efficiency is really impressive Just shows how wrong public opinion is|1 Obvious things to prepare in those 3 months Nationalize as in war time production of PPEs testing kits and ventilators Pop up Field Hospitals with ICU capability Decentralized testing away from hospital Massive marketing of PSA explaining what patients to do Use emergency funding to compensate quarantined But they didnt know to do any of this until Jared asked his father in law and his father in law went on Facebook to askhttpsspectatoruskarlieklossdadjaredkushnercoronavirusresearch|0 And stealing shit|0 NOBLE AND TRUE WITH A HEARY OF STEEL|1 Im not sure if youre joking but if not you should know thats a poem by John Donne It was not made up by Metallica No man is an islandEntire of itself Each is a piece of the continentA part of the mainIf a clod be washed away by the seaEurope is the lessAs well as if a promontory wereAs well as if a manor of thine ownOr of thine friends wereEach mans death diminishes meFor I am involved in mankindTherefore send not to knowFor whom the bell tollsIt tolls for thee|1 You do realize health care is provincial matter and the federal government has little day in it You gotta write to your premier Ford about thatYou folks elected him after all|1 Right I mean I have to wonder how many Chinese HCW continue to work through this out of fear of their government or because they have been literally locked inside the hospital Wuhan|0 Downvoted for a simple observation I see Yes there is a certain receptor that COVID binds to that happens to be more common in those of East Asian descent not sure WHY that has to be controversial|1 Yeah I have this sneaking suspicion that its US officials blocking the pandemic thing at the WHO They dont care its just about money and a Darwinian look on life if you die its because you earned itLovely|0 But Googles motto is DO NO EVIL|0 The problem is throughout our entire school life we are told we have free health care everything is free but its not everything comes with a costAmericans I find i have to educate the most they think our system is great and it works but they have NO idea what its like how long you have to wait and those people on beds in the halls are lucky they have beds at all and are not just sent home|1 As an American I have always despised the stupid people around me Even the supposedly smart people in the smart schools have some of the most moronic values and attitudes Combined with their arrogance and haughtiness and it was all too unbearableBut I still believed we were the greatest nation on Earth If we are so great with so many stupid people in our country then surely everyone else are even worseNope The reason why its possible for us to believe that is because America is so geographically isolated from the rest of the world Its a pain in the ass to visit any other major powers in the world whether the EU or ASEAN The only places Americans can easily visit are weaker and often less developed nations like Central and South America so we do look better in comparisonJust understand that this century is almost certainly Chinas century and the next century will be ASEANs century There are pockets of actual competence and intelligence in their governments there Far more than the almost intentional dysfunction we have People there at least respect education and intellectualism They dont have a general attitude of glorifying stupidity This type of cultural attitude is what sets long term trends How can a nation like America that elects a president calling climate change a Chinese Hoax possibly compete against people who almost worships education Imagine who will be taking office and leading corporations in America over the next 50 years vs the people overseas We are seeing seismic shifts here|1 Lol do you even know what the fuck selective pressures are|0 Its super corrupt Some would even say mafia run|1 What a way to test free health care for all |1 I cant even imagine what kind of personal financial devastation this will cause some of these people Imagine saving all year or longer for a dream vacation and end up unable to work for 15 months after|0 Not sure if you are aware but viruses dont live fine on skin Depending on the specific strain it can be anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour before it is inert and not infectious The skin is rough highly humid and has secretions that are designed to kill off invaders A virus can remain active on surfaces because of the lack of humidity smoothness and relative inactive nature A metal door knob doesnt have an immune systemThink on it this way if a virus lived on you for 9 days before going inert youd be infected regardless of how many times you washed your hands Youd touch your arms your scalp your clothes Then in your sleep youd touch covers blankets pillows and possibly your eyes mouth nose|0 Maybe get CenturyLink to stop throttling|0 My Dads 73 recently retired having worked his whole life has COPD and a list of other health issues My mother is also over 70 but thaknfully doesnt have serious health issues Im late 20s a late babyWhat ive seen in the 30 minutes of browsing this sub along with those who are defending Boris plans is abhorrent Ive seen some people defending this plan and to just take it on the chinSo Ive to prepare to say goodbye to my parents who despite their age are pretty cool and fun people to be around who are dearly loved who have grandchildren in the name of herdimmunity Ive to watch them die Hundreds of thousands are to expect to let their loved ones just die In the interest of the economy Youre telling me these bastards who bailed out banks in the trillions arent prepared to cover losses for thisYeah that aint gonna fly when its all said and done|1 Have a still breathing party instead|1 People will be forced off medications Life saving down the line but elective procedures such as heart valve replacements wont be done There is already a drug epidemic landing people in hospital Mental health is already trash Now everyone will be impacted by this Youre gonna loose people who you might love You may not be able to work Your debt is still gonna pile up So many ways that this virus will kill|0 Travis airforce base used to quarantine the evacuees from Wuhan and the Diamond Princess is in Solano county It seems possible that both of these cases are part of a large and rapidly growing cluster centered there It might be from the event described in the recent whistleblower complainthttpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealth20200227usworkerswithoutprotectivegearassistedcoronavirusevacueeshhswhistleblowersays though if HHS is careless in one case it may be careless in many|0 Thank you for the compliment I cant imagine living with my family not able to go out for that long might be fighting none stop|1 If you think about the whole thing with absolutely no empathy then it does make senseCirca 10 million people in the UK are 65 years old These are predominantly people who no longer contribute to society At 70 years they become a drainThis virus could potentially wipe out most of the demographic That would also see any money they have saved passed to their children increasing spending or back to the government where no beneficiaries are identifiedTheir houses are suddenly available to buy lower the house prices and enabling younger people to get on the ladder etc etcIts evil without a doubt Theyll never admit it but you can see the clinical logic behind itJust in case anyone thinks otherwise I do not agree with this at all just highlighting the potential thought process|0 I dont think the growth will be like this because there are multiple centers|1 Im not sure how an expert would answer but relapse doesnt seem to me like the right term for shingles especially as the presentation is completely different from that of chicken pox|1 Abes doesnt listen to others Hes like the dictator of CambodiaAnd the rumorconspiracy theory on sns here is that he wants to get rid of the elderly for economical gains|1 Colorado should be so lucky to have leaders like this|1 It answer it in that if they try to deny a claim that they have to prove you are trying to defraud them you dont have to prove that you were ill|0 loool they always put a bit of truth in every movie that comes out Its really worth trying to see the bigger picture when watching movies series ect|1 What Do you think Trump is capable of writing a check that wont bounce|1 Theyre trolls and borderline on sociopaths They know saying that botehrs people They dont even believe it an inch but just get off on angering others and causing angiush Like a disgusting little boy that gains joy from tortuing animals just out of boredom These people need to be ignored not paid attention to|0 Our Prime minister didnt win any favours when he jetted off to holidays while our forests were burning down but at least his government banned flights from China and has declared a pandemic|0 You honestly think they can buy that much time We have 2 months tops before this thing is a crisis across the states|1 How pissed would you be if they told you to just quarantine for 14 days instead of being testedThen after quarantining you catch the virus and have to do another 14 days because they refused to test you the first time|0 You likely wouldnt die thats what I keep telling myself as well Its the fact that my selfish act of needing to go to that concert at a time where we should be careful could potentially play a role in killing someone else thats what keeps me home Just got back from state park with my partner but had to tell her no thanks to attending happy hourfood with her and her daughters Im in a similar boat as OP its depressing she thinks everyone is panicking over nothing|0 Lol no reported cases because people like you are put here trying to report some damn cases and do the right thing but they ignore you|0 This was a breath of fresh air of rationality and facts|1 Not really If the stores keep restocking they will just make alot of money for half a month The problem is when panic buying happens becouse if you dont buy right now you get nothing |0 No shit He said hes off to his farm to hide out Motherfucker has the right idea|0 Yet you just pointed out that it is a terrible signal for a tech stock What Im telling you is that it has nothing to do with tech stocks it has to do with startups Please stop with the condescending finance 101 bs|0 Well be fine We fucked a bear|0 Masks Are Going To Do Sweet FUCK ALL Wash your DAMN hands |0 Still you wouldnt get arrested here or even contacted by authorities for making some videos in a hospital|1 Yesterday I said closing colleges wont stop anything and could actually make things worse some people argued with me and said I was wrongI guess I wasnt wrong This attitude is gross Even if you think its just a minor flu why would you want to willingly risk contracting it and spreading it|0 Pays to be rich|1 You know this sub is called china flu This sub is by its nature helping propagate the idea a its just flu and b its chinese flu which is fuelling racism against normal people all over the world|0 The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples moneyThatcher|0 Dont hug prairie dogs Theyre the reservoirs|0 It wont be Its the poorest and the most vulnerable people who will get screwed Thats not in any way fun|0 Is it straight up just Asian people Seems like something wed do now|1 I believe instacart lets you pick an option to have food delivered to your porch and left That sounds like it could be a good way They drop off food on porch no direct contact|1 This is literally the dumbest thing I have ever seen on Reddit|0 Stay strong Italy Well get through this as long as we all keep smart|1 Those who are positive and asymptomatic are part of the mild designationAsymptomatic means that they probably wont get tested and therefore wont be counted in the numbers|1 If it decreases the chances of spreading this and other viruses isnt that worth the effort0 is better than 1000 but so is 50|1 Keeping a close eye on this Stay safe everyone|1 Im so fucking sick of the Madagascar jokes Every asshole who makes one acts like it is the funniest thing in the world and they were the first one to ever say it|1 If you die call 999Thanks pal got it|0 If she has been tested has she been hospitalizedOr is this another fine example of one rule for us|1 I work at a pharmacy with a drive thru and leadership laughed when I suggested this|1 Europe has a lot of different healthcare systems but every system has its flawsI suspect we will now see some interesting fireworks each country failing in its own specific way|0 I mentioned that our government officials are primarily composed of a demographic hit hardest by the virus I commented on how strange it was for government officials to act so nonchalant about the outbreak considering theyre made up mostly of old men I got tons of downvotes for saying that|0 The world needs to work together yes this was their problem to start with but at least they are helping Its time to set partisanship and feuds aside and work together The virus isnt selective it will go after anyone and everyone and right now it is the worlds greatest enemy|1 Im in Johnson county KS where there have been several confirmed casesI thought I would pop in to Costco at 11am yesterday because I was out of coffee and tissues The parking lot was full The lines were backed up 23 of the way through the store Saw multiple people wearing masks Stopped at Hen House at about 7 pm to pick up some odds and ends It was well stocked Only sold of out hand sanitizer The cheaper brands of pasta and canned soup were low Everything else appeared to be plentiful I think Ill be staying away from Costco for nowFrom a work standpoint my company is getting the majority of employees set up to work from home over the next week We will mostly all be working from home by mid next week and for the foreseeable futureDaycare notified us they will not allow any parents past the entrance area and to allow for extra time in the morning for drop offs and pickups If they have a positive case of Covid19 in any student or teacher they will close So who knows how long they will be open for|0 So Nova Scotia the highest population of all Atlantic Canada provinces has 0 confirmed cases but NL PEI and NB all have cases Something doesnt add up here which worries me as I am from Nova Scotia|0 For such short duration we were adviced to put the mask in an envelope or zipbag to preserve it so it can be keep quarantined from the environment when not using it and can be used again next time Wearingdisposing the mask is not difficult at all as demonstrated by WHOhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvlrvFrHnpQIt3s remember to wash your hands with watersoap or alcohol rub after touching the mask when needed Wearing a mask and hand hygiene works synergistically togetherEdit hyperlink issue|1 What the fuck are you talking about We have known for months that this was serious and coming our way|0 With SARS in 2004 it spread mostly in apartments since they all share centralized plumbing pipes Virus was spreading through fecal matter and entering bathrooms via toiletsCV may be spreading the same since this is a variation of SARSGo ask any nursethey will tell you the biggest risk is from the toilet flush plume when their patients go bathroom|1 There is a WHO article on making masks in the field There is good evidence that they offer some if limited protection Government shouldve been working on that during the 3 months head up they had clearly they cannot tell people to wear masks now Much more important to protect supplies for health professionals|1 httpsthemightycom201708affordableonlinetherapycheap maybe some things here youre willing to try Youre Australian right Maybe these people can help you figure out options httpswwwlifelineorgau|1 Im from San Antonio and we are supposedly still having our biggest festival week soon so that should be interesting|1 gg|1 No shit|0 Radiographs lung US and CT are highly nonspecific It may be semiuseful such as presence of pleural effusion which is rare in covid19 so much so that it may suggest other diagnoses should be considered The Chinese doctors may have resorted to stuff like this under desperate measures but I dont think it would help me at this stage|1 This just sounds like common sense Why arent we doing it|1 Are we sure thats true|1 Antibiotics are for pneumonia caused by a bacterial infection This is viral pneumonia Antibiotics have no effect|0 No lie my parents are hardcore rightwingers and they say its either one of two thingsIts either a global hoax to unseat Donald Trump or it was a virus created by deep state democrats and planted in China to unseat Donald Trump Yes some people in this country are that insane and theres a lot of them in my family|0 I really disagree with this Yes its a global issue but if we can get the vaccine quickerable to have them here in the US faster to save lives here thats what we should try and do Its selfish but we are our own country our leaders need to be concerned with our help before others I dont think theyre looking for profit I think they want to secure our safety|1 Yes but China says doing it to them would be unfair|0 Also as someone that lives in Vegas let me tell you something I have a higher chance at randomly contracting it than you so many tourists people that work in casinos that I interact with who in turn interact with those international tourists a major international airport The list goes on just have a plan for ifwhen something happens the government isnt going to allow a Wuhan 20 30 because of Iran because it would destroy the economy they would likely quarantine and distribute goods for a period of time until it is deemed virus free Furthermore the CDC pays attention to statistics they know if pneumonia appears in clusters or if influenza like illness appears in clusters there is an outbreak you will have some warning and it will most likely be in a city with a major international hub IE Los Angeles Vegas Philadelphia You get the picture just take a page out of my Vegas book you cant have fun without a gambleAlso if it is any way to help you httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvuJo3DsgIwEDavid Abel male preexisting conditions Diabetes geriatric Statistically he is the LEAST likely to survive and as you can tell he is recovering well with As he says and I am quoting Damn near zero treatmentQuick edit Atypical pneumonia gets noticed quite quickly alarms would be raised very fast Despite what reddit may think doctors are not knuckle dragging gorillas and know what to look out for|0 Im not someone to actively want something bad to happen to people but I know that I will not loose any sleep if the whole CCP leaders get wiped outThis is probably the mandate of heaven that is so well known in Chinese mythosI hope the best for the innocent Chinese people and wish for their speedy recovery|1 Wow and Ive believed my entire life that this was only a major problem in modern America Learning that other cultures do this too is comforting but also terrifyingMcKenna was right television or in a broader more modern sense media really is a drug Hes probably rolling in his grave at how slippery of a slope the internet turned out to be|0 Im in DFW and its a mix of mostly people who are following with interest and cautious but not really particularly worried and then a smaller group of epople who are actively refuting the importance of the outbreak with iTs JusT tHe fLu bRaH|1 No idea Not a scientist|0 5 million total left the city most to other destinations in China but plenty to other countries Theres a big reason why most of the population of China is not supposed to leave their apartment right now It is a MASSIVE cluster fuck|0 12 monkeysyep someone at the aquarium is a fan of the movie httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvHigxGvmHEdQhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvHigxGvmHEdQ|1 There is no bigger issue than our communitys health right nowUnfortunately there is the global economy Now morally it makes absolutely no sense for politicians to prioritize it over a pandemic But financially it sure does|0 I would also like to know as I currently have a duodenal ulcer|1 This really isnt the place for this This sub is suppose to be about information Not a bloody witch hunt and crucifixion|1 This is super sad I cant even imagine|1 Elementary schools do technically have yellow buses Middle school and up they get student metrocards with 3 free trips per day|1 Happy cake day|1 Well i have limited disposable n95 masks but i do have a respirator with plenty of replacement n95 filters So ive been really trying to gauge when a good time would be Though im also be proactive with social distancing too If a parking lot is packed i just wont go in or find a different store that is less active at the time|1 He is the attending physician of the US Congress and Supreme Court You are ufluffyglof Take that in for a moment bud|1 You dont take kids to the doctors annually in your country for well checks or other things I mean even adults do that here Its part of catching stuff over timetrends and such Thats without trips for other things or illnesses|0 Well mixing bleach with ammonia indeed is pretty deadly I wonder if the chlorine gas is effective at killing viruses lol Probably safer not to test that idea|1 Bat in the soup and youre to blame you give lunch a bad name|0 You forgot how Trump defunded the CDC in 20172018 and fired the director of the CDC While the director said if a pandemic ever happened we are not prepared|0 The window for it being containable was in China With such a highly infectious disease in multiple countries theres not really anything that can be done because new cases will continually come into the country and it just takes one mistake to get it spreading within one|0 What steps would you recommend for federal and state governments that are not already being taken care of|1 Well people also dont realize that when the symptoms appear its not instant Say you have a 10 day incubation period then the 11th day you start having symptoms its not gonna instantly become pneumonia It could take a week or possibly weeks to escalate Look at the whistleblower doctor who passed away it was nearly a month So really these deaths could be people who were possibly infected in early JanuaryNobody knows because China isnt releasing any relevant data but case numbers which most likely arent even accurate Having dates of possible transmissions and escalation of symptoms is important data we need|1 Two young doctors just died in the last 24 hours A female doc 29 and a male one 40|0 And tell everyone else youve come in contact with to proceed accordingly And let them know to tell everyone theyve been in contact with etc well thats pretty much all of us|1 Regardless whether this is in China the US or GermanyI saw a company rais Multiple big home depot and grocery stores raised in 2 weeksx200BNo joke one time i was driving by with public transport and saw ground work next time close to finish it was crazyStill standing since like 7 yearsThis Garten markt zoo everything to the right the entire parking lot which is big httpswwwgooglecommaps515272674718313a75y7691h8301tdata3m61e13m41suU4K68HZGyBJXpYvKU88w2e07i133128i6656httpswwwgooglecommaps515272674718313a75y7691h8301tdata3m61e13m41suU4K68HZGyBJXpYvKU88w2e07i133128i6656 x200Bbefore this it was literarily mud which was used from time to time by a few circus|1 Thailand is another good example It had cases since January but it never spread muchhttpsfinsharingcomcoronavirusthailand|1 I dont see why either of you is wrong or right|0 Beaches seem better than bars|1 They are forced to believe CCPif not then they are killedAlso anyone else get banned in serveral rcorona subreddits|0 Im sure he has wet dreams of being able to|1 so as a community we nailed it well done handshakes all roundI see what you did there|1 Are you serious Irish people take the piss out of themselves and their history all the time Born and bred in Wicklow but thanks for your concern|1 Maybe make another attempt to explain to your work place that it is important for you to work from home and list all the benefit such as improving productivity not have to work in fear can give example of google twitter and other big companies are doing the same thing If they say no you are in your 20s you are young you can probably find a better place to work where they actually value the well bean of the employee It is better to stood up for your self in this situation|1 Believe it or not but Pence is a perfect pick for this role The person in charge doesnt have to be a doctor or a scientist but has to have enough cloud to be able to personally provide approvals for nationwide policies based on recommendations by medics or scientists No scientist or doctor can provide this type of leadership to the task force Also doctor or scientist or executive can always be made a scapegoat and remove d and replaced but by appointing Pence this administration basically went all in and assumed personal responsibility for the issue Most of large companies use the same approach when dealing with high urgency or high visibility problems Point person appointed normally is CEO1 or CTO1 who very often has no experience dealing with that particular problem but can approve firmwide policies based on expert advice|0 Alright Thank you |1 Yeah I got a better source Im a student at Dal No classes will be held from the 16th20th while they move everything online Classes are expected to resume ONLINE ONLY the following Monday|1 I cant help but feel like thats aimed at management and there would or should be more clinical information We tried X and it didnt work Y number of ventilated patients also required Z Etc|1 Its like the world leaders are characters from South ParkNo SERIOUSLY THIS And that is fucking INSANE|0 Or essential items only No chocolates or candy or pop or chips Just meat veggies milk and bread along with water Get in get outId rather just close restraunts coffee shops and grocery stores People work there too they dont wantneed to get infected|0 What bullshit I live in Louisville too I guess I should quarantine any UPS packages I receivelol|0 I guarantee they will find a way to spin it and blame the Democrats Those types will never turn on their own base|0 Youre like an NPC or minor movie character who has an inordinate amount of knowledge about something seemingly insignificantedit its a compliment people|1 Thank you for reply and informationYes I have heard of it Im worried because things are getting worse world wide I hope US government can make more effective measures to handle this issue I will followup with latest updateFor now its important for you to take care of yourself Be safe Many uncertainties exist and this is a war without smoke Good luck |1 With the way things are becoming simular with italy I have to agree This 50 or less is like a warningindication or whats coming next|1 Active cases is only 40k at this point which i think is an important distinction|1 Good on you|1 I support ubi forever that would be awesome|1 Im not a tin foil hat wearer or anything but Ive started to feel pretty suspicious about the fact the government is so chilled about a disease kills the elderly those with certain underlying conditions such as diabetes which disproportionately effects the obese the elderly and obese are two of the biggest drains on the NHS In an ageing society pensions are a massive cost so there they go too Social housing care facilities for those who are too poorly to work All these costs reduced by letting the virus spread Seems convenient no|1 So Now China Listen to us Do us all a big big favor If this is really true PUBLISH THE FUCKING DATA Enough with press releases we cant treat anyone based on press releases Do a proper paper have it peerreviewed It will go through peerreview at lightspeed given the importance of the matterWE NEED THE DATA If this is true its yuuuuuuge as it seems it can effectively stop disease progression Given how easily chloroquine phosphate can be produced we will be giving the stuff out like candy at the first line of fever But WE NEED THE DATA Sorry we just canto do otherwise Once the data is out and has been properly scrutinized we can rejoice Until then not so much|1 we have the best patient 31s the greatest in the world china and korea have nothing on us The world is not doing well and were going greatgreat numbers I tell you highest in the world trump probably|1 Yes helping the Boomer make her point about the character of the Breakerscrawlers|1 Thats nice because Sentinel is the near realtime tracking of Sulfur emissions satellite so OMIAURAs findings arent the focus Youre arguing with Windycom information on their official pages Its like you want reality to bend to this wack theory you have that GEOS5 is 2030 years out of date in a field that strives to be as stateoftheart as possible The page you repeatedly source for that also hasnt been updated in 10 years look at the last edit But people should totally believe a decadeabandoned page with no staff over Windycom|1 At this point I trust more Chinese than American numbers|1 Is the teacher dead When did they die This subreddit is getting really bad at circle jerking that everyone is going to die|0 Tending to agree now I just need to think of a way to say this to her as gently as possible but still effective|1 Would it be pointless to say Im sorry|0 If a substantial percentage of the population is asymptomatic does that lower the potential percentage of the population that can be sickened|0 Met with our Lawyer on Thursday to finalize our Wills which have been in progress since mid January She had a weird vibe on her and asked all sorts of nonsensical questions such as so whats your take on this coronavirus thing do you think its real and well just dont cough in my office laughing Neither one of us gave her the time of day to those questions except to say can we move this alongAt the end of the witness signing etc I asked her so I bet business is up this week eh She responded no joke for almost 30 minutes telling us how many people were lined up for next week wanting strict DNRs and how she didnt understand all the panic and why would someone not want to be resuscitated and finally how her husband was going to be off for two weeks and they want to go to Italy but found out they cant After the Pres announcement we both looked at each other and said I wonder how Lawyer sees this now insert panicky eyeballsPS We both have one of those strict DNR directives in our wills|0 Well they totally failed the Contain phase by doing fuck all|0 PTDS is strong with the Post|1 Yes this is very much over Jabuppers head I tried to explain the same thing and just got a downvote for my timeSome people are just willing to put politics over everything|1 httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirususalabsformerfdachieftellslabcorpquestdiagnosticstostepupamidcoronavirusoutbreakidUSKBN20R2AR HEALTH NEWSMARCH 4 2020 1024 AM A DAY AGO Former FDA chief tells Labcorp Quest Diagnostics to step up amid coronavirus outbreak 2 MIN READ Reuters Laboratory Corp of America Holding LHN and Quest Diagnostics Inc DGXN should conduct tests for coronavirus in the country former Food Drug Administration commissioner Scott Gottlieb tweeted bitly2PMXwWn on Wednesday Gottlieb who is part of Pfizer Incs PFEN board said high complexity labs that perform national testing have the same ability to validate tests as academic and hospital labs that are stepping up to increase testing capacity LabCorp Quest others need to get in the gameBesides the USA having the least number of hospital beds per 1000 people in all OECD countries the USA has without doubt the worst financial incentivization system for lab work in the OECD as wellHopefully this changes every 5 days of delays will double the number of Americans who contract the disease|1 But hey at least the prime minister told us not the shake hands anymore Prime minister immediately proceeds to shake handshttpsyoutubexzDtYHGdLAt1108|1 A sticky that provides a list of sources from the WHO ECDC PHE for general info would be a good start with a list underneath of the actions people should be taking that are uncontroversial such as washing hands staying in working from home if possible definitely staying in for a week or more if feeling poorly with fevercough maybe a list of all the symptoms of CV19 and that ideally family members should stay in quarantine as well with you for 14 days if you are poorly WHO advice not travelling or going to crowded places as much as possible wiping down deliveries when you receive them with a wipe that contains benzalkonium chloride or alcohol which will kill the virus regularly wiping door handles light switches surfaces with the same that hand sanitiser should have 60 alcohol content to avoid touching face shaking hands keep distance from people as much as possible avoid visiting elderly relatives if possible avoid going on cruises and for the vulnerable and elderly to be extra strict about doing this stuff and isolating if they can Maybe a list of what other countries citizens are doing so people can decide if they want to do those things themselves if they canHaving a list like that might make people feel a bit more in control and think about the things they CAN do rather than just panicking about the fact it all feels really out of control|1 honestly my response to this type of censorship from governmental bodies is 1 purchase firearms and ammunition and 2 short the stock market|1 Another mono survivor here I got it at 14 was bedridden for a month and couldnt do any physical activities for another 6 I was extremely healthy and athletic beforehand so it was a huge blow Eventually recovered but never fully and has been diagnosed with and under active thyroid since then I eat healthy Im out in the open a lot I walk and cycle everywhere do the all the things Im supposed to but Im still so so tired all the time especially in the winterearly spring Its a damn struggle because people think youre lazy while also mocking you for all the pills you take just to be able to function Im taking vitamins iodine thyroid hormones and antidepressants so I can actually get up and work and live my life Mononucleosis is a right bitch I also have Gilberts Syndrome so get totally floored when I over exert myself|0 Recovered hardly gets updated Its been 815 since hell last week or the week before|0 This is nonsenseEvery healthcare system in the world has finite resources so they will have to triage There are only so many beds doctors etc to go aroundThe UK has public healthcare so will triage based on how likely that individual is to need help based on things like age medical history and how sick they appearThis individual appears to have decided to fly to somewhere that is happier to triage based on how rich you are|1 You do realize the concept of conspiracy theorist was created for the sole purpose of misdirection of the public so those in power can actually accomplish things like these righthttpsprojectunspeakablecomconspiracytheoryinventionofciahttpswwwreadersdigestcomautruestorieslifestyle12crazyconspiracytheoriesactuallyturnedoutbetrueslide2httpswwwmsncomensgnewsworldconspiracytheoriesthatturnedouttobetruessBBYTb4Bimage1httpstimecom5541411conspiracytheoriesdomesticterrorismOpen your mind|1 Depends on the circumstances in the state and the states laws Here in Ohio they can legally compel you to be tested and confined even to the point of stationing police officers outside your home to make sure you stay quarantined I believe that is due to it being a declared state of a emergency and a public health emergency|0 Honestly the testing doesnt entirely matter It would be helpful to know if you needed to completely isolate yourself but in general even if its just seasonal flu you should be staying home and away from people|0 Theres a really consistent trend of places with no obvious outbreak problem exporting infected people like its nobodys business Every single case in Poland is someone who traveled to UK Norway Germany or France all places that dont look that bad I dont think these cases would be caught if it wasnt for travel history and it hints at cryptic community transmission being substantial|0 FUCK JEFF BEZOS PAY YOUR TAXES|0 I do too as does everyone in my household but very recently I had an experience which made me think more about its unsupervised use One of my inlaws returned from a conference in a city where there were already confirmed cases and was having COVID19 symptoms a few days later Having never taken NAC before she took 600 mg of it on an empty stomach and soon after that had a mild anaphylactoid reaction pruritus flushing tachycardia that came and went over about an hour That probably could have been avoided by lowering the dose taking it on a full stomach andor taking it with an antihistamine but its not going to be without risk for first time users whose sensitivity to the stuff is unknown It could have been worse|0 Anything you can read about Diogenes is purely apocryphal Its roughly about as true as Mother Goose|1 Absolute fucking joke we need to petition this|1 Perhaps theyll get this under control soon but if not this only confirms skepticism toward government health programsThis is an unbelievably stupid position Infectious diseaseepidemic health control has always been government run its not any different than national defense It can only be accomplished at a coordinated national and nowadays as were now discovering supernational levelThe idea that it can be privatized is as ridiculous as arguing we should privatize the military And criticizing the very concept which has eliminated Smallpox Polio Measles prior to the antivaxers Rubella drastically limited diseases in the US like Malaria Yellow Fever etc suggests youre pretty ignorant and short sighted|0 Probably safer than bagpipes I hear bagpipes if not maintained can give you pneumonia|1 Thanks for mentioning paramedics and nurses we already busy as hell with meth and sadness|0 Ok now do that for every grocery store|1 no worries about burst my bubble I was being totally sarcastic ironic or whatever the word is But trying to not make it a political attack so was going for just hint at unfortunately too subtle|0 Stay strong Love and support from Hubei|1 Today is day 38 of the COVID19 outbreak in the UK as counted from the first case reported by Public Health England in the UK Continuing on from Fridays charthttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfeihovukcovid19caseprogression6thmarch here is the status in the UK as of 08032020As per PHE 23513 people have been tested orange line secondary right axis of which 273 were confirmed as positive cumulative case count blue line on primary left axis 18 cases have been identified as recovered and tragically two person have died resulting in 253 active cases ongoing green line primary left axisI have been including a table of cases in the UK progression vs other countries As per this posthttpsoldredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxmfocomparisonofcasenumberdevelopmentthedays with days counted from 50 casesDayChinaSouth KoreaItalyUK16279798521211041551153198204229163429143332220654406024532736571833655783097789381287126111289197517661577Optimistically the UK appears to be following a shallower more linear trajectory than other countries so far whilst still having a relatively large number of tests undertaken in what appears to be a reasonably proactiveagggressive way but I would caution against reading too much into it since a lot depends on testing regime proactivityaggressiveness of testing and many other variables|0 I would have liked to write your comment but I waited Its nice to see rational people and not the usual optimism fetishists|1 PLEASE someone PLEASE|1 Meanwhile Gamestop remains open against local shutdown orders and threatens to not pay employees who call in sick|0 rwallstreetbets will own all the shares they can get by end of play today|1 Its not exactly the fever thats doing it The disease attacks the lungs in some cases this leads to pneumonia and fluid enters the lungs This makes it harder to breathe and oxygenate the blood Thats why so many are on ventilators This can lead to a lot of other problems Organs need oxygen and if they dont get it they can fail The number of ventilators could prove to be a major choke point for response efforts|0 For the record those makeshift masks are effective|1 Ha no disagreement from me there Some Americans forget other Americans exist OP isnt guilty here thoughThey say they dont know what the implications are The comparison to the US state of emergency is them relating something they dont know to something they do Its clear that OP isnt claiming the only thing a public health emergency triggers is a US response The person below then confirms that yes it does what OP said but at an internationally coordinated level|0 what mark had before his press conference was that gobert tested positive and the NBA season will be suspended im pretty sure the warriors would sing a different tune if they had those 2 incidents in their mind|1 httpswwwcdcgokrboardboardesmida30402000000bid0030actviewlistno366480tagnPage1There you go Korean information is readily available In general a lot of young people are infected in Korea so that reduces the mortality However even in the 80 age group current fatality rate is 6 which is still considerably lower than that study in China which had 148 fatality rate in that age group httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762130guestAccessKeybdcca6faa48c402884067f3d04a3e932|0 I dont agree In terms of seriousness the cruise ship will be the best way to judge how serious it is over a population Im hoping they test everyone so they can see how many people have cases that arent really showing symptoms Singapore has done pretty well trying to put together contacts etc but they already have cases where they dont have the origin case so there is at least 1 case they dont know about|1 Yes People can be contagious for the couple weeks before symptoms show while they are sick and possibly up to 12 days after they are considered recovered|0 No that was Dr Fauci who is still worth listening to This is Dr Messonnier To be fair also she also said its not a question of if but when we will have community spread The problem is that the answer to that question turned out to be six weeks ago and she didnt know because of the testing debacle|0 Everyone not freaking out and raiding the shelves has made it much easier for me to freak out and raid the shelvesI could lock myself in my apartment today and not come out til July if need be as long as the plumbing keeps working|1 Wow|1 I like the quote that Ive heard from several people Paraphrased as If we do enough to prevent the spread it will look like we overreacted If we dont do enough we will know our mistake for certain I think I butchered it a bit Most people seem to be underestimating the damage this virus can do The worst part is we are seeing it played out in real time in Italy but too many people still dont seem to care|0 He flew there on 24th Along with many many others I suspect Good news that they are trying to contain|1 As a doctor should he seems to be taking his Hippocratic Oath seriously although he probably shouldnt have deferred to Trump in the early going He probably thought at first that Donald would act with at least minimal responsibility but hes clearly given up on that now Expect him to be fired soon which he should see as a clear sign that he was doing the right thing|1 Also possible he got it on the plane or at the Airport With the amount of travel over the past few weeks from destinations that are considered hotspots its hard to imagine the airport isnt heavily contaminated and airplanes arent a major place to catch the disease tons of people crammed into lineups getting touched by security maybe they are infected using communal washrooms crammed into tiny airplanes sharing air The responsible thing would be to suspend all air travel but they wont for probably weeks or months I wouldnt be surprised if other countries ban travel from Canada due to high numbers of cases long before the reverse occurs|0 The exchange rate of NOKEUR reached 11 NOK for 1As a foreigner living in the EU making my money from Norway it sucks Specially since years ago it used to be 7 NOK for 1|0 Yes They literally said it in a speech|1 boomers and anti vaxxers that want to spread disease|0 I bet theres at least 50 right now One of the confirmed positive is a student at Rice University and was on campus at least 1 day as a carrier|1 Exactly Ive heard people say they should just let nursing students and those in medical school have temporary licenses to practice I can promise you that if you were the one sick you wouldnt want either one of them in charge of your care It took me a solid year out of nursing school until I felt like I had any idea what Im doing this is the norm for nurses college teaches you books but you need on the job training in order to be competent And I work with interns fresh out of med school every summer and they are clueless Itd be great if those people could step in and do nursing assistant type tasks changing linens changing diapers helping people to the bathroom restocking supply carts etc though to free up nurses and doctors to provide care But having nursing students act like nurses and med students work unsupervised is not a great idea at least I wouldnt allow them to be the sole care provider for me|1 So the flu like symptoms I my family of 3 have been having for months and my negative flu test might mean this has been going on a lot longer I never get sick but have had flu like symptoms for 2 months now Same with my son and wife but they have allergies so that can explain that especially since hes been sick off and on since septemberpreearly pneumonia Her bronchitis But both were told they had allergies first and the treatments never worked Now Im being told there is a rash of sinus infections Not to be too much of a hypochondriac but should I be worried My next step was getting mold specialists to check my vents but Im poor|0 Cant even take it as that There could be a number of lesssevere cases that havent gotten tested|1 No and rightly soCobra is a sign off on decisions mostly madeSo the morning is needed to collect and collate data from all departments and make decisions on actionsCobra is where those are presented already figured out and then it go or no goCobra is useless if its just another meeting with endless debates with no information|0 Stay safe brother|1 I live close enough to JHS to be concerned There is no shortage of anything around here except for masks those have been gone for weeks|0 168 new deaths in the last day in Italy is 18 deaths more than on Chinas worst day February 23 China had 77150 confirmed cases at that time Italy now has only 10149 confirmed cases and more people dying per day Something is going terribly wrong in Italyhttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountrychinahttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscountryitaly|0 I hope the Chinese in particular learn something from all of thisyeah they need to cover shit up better I have 0 actual faith that China is going to do anything without being forced into it Im hoping that the rest of the world looks at the conditions in China that continue to fuel disease outbreaks and tells them to fuck off instead of continuing to do business with them|1 Thats not what I meant You might not be able to enter because borders might be closed by then Should give you a good reason to get a refund|1 The stores can help stop this cycle but restricting how many duplicates people are purchasing Those morons should not have been allowed to make 110k off of reselling Costco supplies that they bought in store That is pallets worth of products Lysol bleach wipes in this story which the store can easily disallow They got roasted on social media after people are not buying their sob story that they still have to pay for their kids 20k private school Middle class narcissists like this sicken me and its especially worse in times of crisis like these that they would jack up the prices to grift people|0 When the flu or noro is going around a community it almost always ends up in the local nursing homesAssuming that people are vaccinated as soon as the yearly flu vaccines are available why is that Sure the residents are old and frail but its not like handwashing and hand sanitizer hygiene goes out the window I hopeEdit Answered thanks|1 So fun thing pandemics arent covered in all travel insurancesif theyre covered in any So if you put down a year or twos savings into vacation youre going to just go for it because you cant afford to burn that money httpswwwforbescomadvisortravelinsurancecoronavirusquestionshttpswwwforbescomadvisortravelinsurancecoronavirusquestions x200BWhat should be happening is that the governments should shut down travel and put out a subsidy package to travelers that had their plans cut they need to show evidence they lost money That way once this is over people will be inclined to travel and itll act as a natural stimulus to the economy|1 In soviet Russia flu is infected by people|0 So the body aches chills and fever are consistent with Influenza did you have pain in the chest which progressed to pain with coughing or no pain but coughing|0 No No playdates Theres NO guarantee that other parents are taking this matter as seriously as you Who knows what kind of exposure these other families have had My kid wanted to play with the neighbor kid yesterday outside I said helllll naw Kids are a huge vector point and spreader of the virus Up to 90 of infections in China are suspected to have come from children|0 The government is made up of people People who have loved ones who are at risk or might even be at risk themselves Nobody is hoping for a cullYour conspiracy theory doesnt deserve even the slightest consideration Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity|0 Hundreds of videos with no context or information on when it was filmed in the first place|0 This is how we people humanity really work young children show us that we default to cooperation and unity Race and class is manufactured division were all humans on this earth together Love and peace to the people of China|1 From what Im hearing he was really upset about Billie Eilish holding a concert at PNC arena Couple that with whatever festivals people decided not to cancel and you get an executive order|1 The cancel culture we can all get behind|0 Agreed There is definitely propaganda baked in|1 Its a Bad to Its a Very Bad Its a Very Bad to mama miamama mia to MerdaMerda to were fucked|0 Edward Snowden and Reality Winner want to have a word with you|1 Not My book I think the author is a John Barry easy to google I havent read all of it Yet It seems pretty readable though Not filled with verbiage one needs to be a doctor to understand I think a high schooler could read it maybe younger|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I love the sarcasm and we all know thats a bullshit excuse But that is how they would justify it nonetheless even if only to themselves|0 Ahhh shit Sweden catching up with the numbers s|0 Fire Fire Get out of the way|0 httpswwwwhointgpsc5mayGuidetoLocalProductionpdfEdit thanks|1 And those criterion are essentially still in place fromstate health departments Its so moronic|0 Looks like its because theyve chained the exits Dang|1 We were supposed to go Tuesday We cancelled yesterday Got a full refund for hotel and lift tickets|0 Yeah this is almost unreadable Maybe the dots should be different shapes|1 fleas carrying a bacterial strain called Yersinia pestis On rats|0 Heh As I mentioned all bets are off It would appear that first I have to try and survive these ignorants out here going at a 100 RPMs on the ol sneezeolator Im telling you its like playing some weird game of Frogger going on my weekly trip to the supermarketIf I DO win the kingdom game were gonna have rde plser confetti and balloons Also I suspect that some of these tax dollars are going to be spent on other things than lining politicians pockets Ill strive to be a good king cause Im nice like that|1 God damn Mary Fallin was a shit governor I had the pleasure of living in Oklahoma during her tenure Would recommend that time travelers look elsewhere|1 Wait In Australia they didnt test you Are you kidding me What state are you in Thats terrifying|0 Luckily for humanity you dont have any money or influence to abuse|0 Divide that number by populationSO intense|1 I was that person until I really started reading into it and now Im slightly scared after someone was confirmed in my county in Michigan No food no toilet paper no water bottles no cleaning products All wiped out My license expires in a month and I have to go to the SOS and Im scared shitless|0 China managed it by putting police checkpoints in front of every apartment building and monitoring the movement of every citizen Respect to them for taking such a serious stance to contain the virus but i really dont think the US government will take it as seriously i mean they already dont seem to care|0 No He is the person in the hot seat he campaigned for this job If he continues to respond with the same complete lack of intelligence people should rightly call him out on it And over ruling the CDC and flying people exposed to the virus with ones that are not shows the sort of tremendous intelligence Ive expected from trump If he were still the dumb ass in charge of a reality TV show we could ignore and not talk about him The problem is hes the President and kinda of in charge of our response to this whole thing|0 The Coronavirus is just like a flufor now at least|1 It depends on when exactly his trip ishonestly its not worth it If your paranoid your whole trip its not relaxing|0 no they want to catch it to build immunity like the government has been telling themdumb strategy|1 Well have to pay it backwith interest|1 If they didnt translate it people would be screaming about how it was left untranslated never even noticing that he was saying the same things twice|0 YES YOU CANJust stop buying anything with a Made in ChinaPRC label|1 According to my news sources they want to heap up a mountain range between Italy and the rest of Europe They want to call it the AntiviraL Partition Stones or ALPS for short|1 You are correct any place where we can stop it spreading is important|0 Hes like the two brothers in Tennessee who bought 17000 bottles of hand sanitizer trying to take advantage of the sick Only horrible people like him and the two brothers would try to make money off a pandemicEdit a word|1 Bore off|0 Definitely I dont get why Amazon is to blame though Shouldnt the government just declare a state of emergency andor go after the sellers directly|0 Polizia Municipale is still a local police force just like Carabinieri|1 Goodbye coronavirus Hello cancer|0 America is run by corporate and partygovernment bean counters now No sign offs by govt officials unless it matches the private profit stream of some company|1 The Lancet is only a media Those scientist just publish a statement on it The opinion is only for them But I think this statement doesnt have any persuasive arguments for me These 27 men may be just as a group of out of minds|0 Which country started it by ignoring the worlds epidemiologists for two decades after they did it the first time with SARS Which country tried to cover up the initial outbreak when honesty wouldve stopped it dead in its tracks|0 Oh no big deal then|0 How the hell did it get into a nursing home|0 Genuinely to stop panic and overwhelming the nhs and shopsIts literally part of the strategy of dealing with a major epidemic All the war games and table tops of these things Over the last decade say the same thing Control the narrative to control the burden on the systemIts a stalling measure very effective absolutely necessary and will only last for so long before it fails But it is needed|0 Which is fucking stupid SARS and Ebola killed a whole bunch of people and had the possibility to be really really bad We just got lucky on both accounts|0 some of us have shitty families lmao|1 well said|1 They have to stop announcing these things like this I swear to god It was the same problem with the Eurotravel ban to the US last week Just fucking say after 1159PM on day or from 1201AM on day or something|0 RELEASE THE MODS OF WAR|0 Damn that was deep|0 I like urs i feel that way a lot like a ghost|1 Fuck that I work in Radiology there is no need to do this for ppl MAKE THE GOV test ppl like the senator questioned the CDC They need to follow S Korea and get more tests via manufacturing fly them in and get them out this few hundred test kits per state is bullshit Its just there to say we have them but they need to be testing everyone|0 I literally today finished transferring from UW to an online program because I had childcare issues and they wouldnt let me continue remotely Sothis is cool|1 Yes but realistically there is a lot we dont know Singapore has a hot and humid climate and respiratory Viruses often dont spread as well in those conditions|0 This is what i was laughing at from the beginninglike all these people who pretend like this isnt even reallots of them fall in the high risk group lol like hey boomersyoure the one who should worry more than the millennials|1 Dont lecture me ObiWan I see through the lies of the Jedi|0 Hes cancelling it because hes lost and his election is over Its an extremely convenient excuse though|0 Its like nature wants them to die|0 If they were to give every citizen 1000 a month for 4 months then that would come to 280 billion surely that would increase everyones confidence and keep many of these businesses afloat or at least keep staff tiding over till business as usual and they can return to work|1 For people commenting about how they lose 50 000 masks please read the article|0 Thats a good question Im also curious if they created a similar molecule so they could test the one they had created and have some sort of patent on it|1 No By Mid Jan wuhans hospitals were already overwhelmed We are like midearly Decmber in Wuhan right now|1 Was she on Ace inhibitors Some research saying Ace makes coronavirus worse|0 Girl in thumbnail has her mask on wrong|0 Its true|1 They are only testing people who are almost dead|0 And all the shitheads here and on other social media who are hardcore defending this retarded strategy|0 the preprint mentions the clinical trial number which can be found online with a rough description of the protocol Some of the trials involve hydroxychloroquine sulfate toowwwchictrorgcnhttpwwwchictrorgcnexportxmlaspxv49400users3237c346 I see its already mentioned|1 I took low estimates for both No one is saying 2 as a high estimate for COVID atm its closer to 34 and some say 5 especially when health care systems collapse like in Lombardy|0 Yes the same people who dont wash their hands and eat their fingernails|1 He had direct contact with someone who tested positive Of course he was tested|1 Actually there is another way Look at Singapore They have effectively eliminated deaths none by vigilant and massive detective work on every person infectedthey tracked down every single person the infected was in contact with and quarantined them They are walking around without masks in Singapore|0 winnie the flu|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understandingYour post has been removed Keep posts on topic In general we dont need new posts that are jokes memes shitposts or other unhelpful and unrelated comments We may also remove low quality YouTube or social media commentary|1 Bitcoin solves this|1 Everyone working from home better bust ass 10x harder than normal to skew the data so we can permanently work from home|0 Side note his other videos are fascinating I ended up watching about an hour of him talking about the heart works The best part you can see in his eyes that he really does love the science and miracle of it allIt almost makes me want to go to med school even though Im way too old|1 This I bought as much as I could in anticipation of not leaving for weeks This is going to get much worse before it gets better Hopefully theyll figure out home food and supply delivery logistics so we truly can quarantineselfisolate|1 Please redo this graph using infected per million|0 Oh shut up you selfimportant moron There are bad apples in every bunch boomers gen x millenials gen z|0 Theyre both young and healthy too Its unlikely theyll have any serious issues from it|1 It might be because we in America dont have a reason to panic about it as its not a problem yet meanwhile an election that will change the fate of our entire nation is just around the corner|0 Im stocked pretty well I started buying pantry staples food in January If the family can hold off and deal with eating what I have saved we should be able to make it a month Im nervous about the picky eaters in the family I was still hoping I was still crazy when I bought the masks in January Masks sold out here before mainstream news really picked up on it I bought 2 packs and left 5 behind I think we have an large international group in my city and everyone cleared the shelves to send some back home|1 They shook hands and then didnt use sanitiser |0 I mean Italys mass quarantines albeit not as large are going over quite well People there are complaining about the draconian measures and the Italian army manning checkpoints but the bottom line is that theyve seemed to understood that public health crises trump temporary breaches of your personal liberties|1 If you dont think you can get it because youre a healthy person under 65 look at that picture There is no way youre as fit as the least fit guy in there and probably could not be if you trained every day for the next two years Stay at home people|1 Youre right 2 more people were added to the death count in Washington my school hasnt even done anything to help prevent spreading nor have they said anything regarding it except an email saying the imminent risk to us is low|0 Lol Ive seen old people blatantly lie in situations less stressful than this There is definitely a high probability that she got fleeced but she did the right thing|1 Yes even more of your dollars are now going to China even the juice is from China now and we all know how food safety works in this sub|1 Mexico got shifted to a different tag but Canadians will still be lost because of being grouped with USA|0 Oh he has it he just wont admit|0 Well done mate|1 Heres an idea fuck the tests Sick of people whining about them Can we use them Yes Do we need more Yes However we cant control the supply and who they test Know what we can control Our own actions Use common sense and stay home if youre able to Especially if you have ANY symptoms at all assume you have it and stay homeThis is targeted to the people who CAN I know some people cant stay home There are many who can though but choose to go out|0 I can agree with you but when young people think that people arent being honest than they dont believe anything about it The marijuana issue is a good example of this Govt says marijuana is the worst attack in American history so kids find out its bullshit and believe its completely harmless|0 Same in San Diego CA They actually told my GF that she was too healthy to get a test because they are short on test|1 No I dont think I wills Dont eat me|0 34 of cases severe enough for a person to report themselves go on to die sounds like a reasonable figure|0 Im no expert but I think caring would look like taking steps to avoid catching or spreading the virus such as avoiding touch in public frequent handwashing utilization of sanitizer when washing is unavailable avoiding touching your nose or mouth avoiding travel to outbreak areas Those would be basic steps everyone can take with ease Slightly more advanced might be doing things like maintaining the recommended social distance of six feet disinfecting surfaces at home and at work avoiding travel in general and reducing social outings|1 Lol what a joke |1 There definitely appear to be people who are asymptomatic throughout the whole thingA study of the passengers on the Diamond Princess suggest 18 of people who tested positive never showed symptoms|1 And no way South Korea and Singapore Tiwan Japan and Hong Kong are truthful either As much as anyone would love to generate hope too much vested interest is involved in each territory We see this in America as well and as much as the truth is being censored in every scope to stabilize global financial securities Italy is divested and was floundering before this A true litmus test|1 The embarrassment equation flipped|0 Possibly male reproductive organs as well There is a lot to figure out in terms of what this virus is capable of Globally weve been dealing with it for three to four months its going to be a while until we have confirmed answers to these questions and others|1 WHO so far1 say nothing its wrong wash your hands and chill2 stock up on masks3 say shit its bad and we have little time to act4 404 masks not found5 6 profit|0 Im in IL and people here arent mad Im sure some people are but the majority of people with whom I have spoken are glad we are shutting down businesses The people that are mad are the same ones who dont understand the gravity of the situation|1 This is the best answer We need people with eyes on the whole big picture looking at all of these problems on a large scale|1 Yup thats all u can do Im as ready as Ill ever be Prob be good for a couple months of quarantine if it comes to that Otherwise I have groceries and supplies to last me awhile and can take a break from shopping on the reg If power goes out Im kind of fuckered though|1 Thats awesome Thanks a lot|1 But seriously though others have brought up similar beats you wrote and it was refuted on rconspiracy of all places People went through the actual reports of the studies and concluded it was relatively harmless Calling it seeing if they can cross it to humans is greatly oversimplifying thingsThe post in question refer to the top comments httpswwwredditcomrconspiracycommentsfi2275abiolabinwuhanpublishedastudyin2007onutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 55 in Canada with a max if like 500600 a week|1 NYC had its first death today too yet I just passed 3 packed bars while walking my dog|0 Meanwhile in Germany were fighting for toilet paper and our health minister didnt understand exponential|0 Its like he learned nothing from Godzilla movies|1 Love that Chinese communism where they have McDonalds stock markets and billionaires Exactly what Marx was going for|1 This is tragically and catastrophically bad for Iran and the whole world if true|0 Also how can we self qaurentine when we live paycheck to paycheck My land lord doesnt care The grocery store isnt going to give me free food|1 Factories yes but no ones working|0 Yes|1 What do you think that 6 figure is actually telling you That 6 of those who get infected will die It definitely doesnt tell you that|0 But no need to panic Smh|0 20000 people die of hunger every DAY No one cares Check your perspective|0 No mention of keeping tourists in the country was made by the Prime minister|0 If your patients are dieing you dont really have a choice but to try Chloroquine uses a known mechanism to combat the virus it was used before and safe to people You really have nothing to lose trying it out for serious cases|1 That seemsbackwards Im assuming this guy is pretty healthy in general if hes out here running marathons lol|1 So cool love it|1 Thanking your own country helping someone elses |1 Bruh this is like 1020x more lethal u dunce|1 Ive already begun this routine after seeing reports of it in Chinese homes I will be more strict with shoes from now on as well if I leave my house and area I will not bring my shoes inside I already remove all clothing when entering and sterilize everything too Thank you for the tips and reassurance I want to reassure you that we are with you and will all get thru this together|1 Yeah so forget eating chicken and probably eggs too Not to mention pork which had that problem last year and is probably still going China is just a disease ridden country all in all|0 Like I said I wash my hands a lot when Im out in public Pretty much any time I pass a bathroom if I havent already washed them in the past 5 minutes Just a habit Ive had for a while and its to the point where I feel uncomfortable if I havent washed my hands recently which is why I always have a pocket sized bottle of Purell on me And I still sanitize the phone once a week and wipe every surface in my office with a disinfecting wipe once a week as wellId think I was a germaphobe except I dont mind shaking hands with people That may be because I see it as an acceptable alternative to other forms of physical contact people try to initiate and I feel physically sick at just the though of strangers hugging me I should probably see a shrink about some of this|1 English speaking people as you can see this is what I have to deal in Mexico no one listens this will cost the whole world All the sacrifice and efforts will be in vain when Mexico succumbs to the idiocy of its president and blind followers|0 Take this with a grain of salt because its for SARS but 15 min at 56 C lowered the virus count six log steps and 60 minutes rendered SARS undetectable I feel like this virus should be similar I think if you increased the temp to boiling the time would be very short indeed|1 Will you be including manitoba on this Thanks |1 Only viruses that kill fast eradicate themselves This one LCov has a delay of 14 days plus x days of severe symptoms then death That is only a little bit less than what it takes to fully recover from the mild one SCov There is really not much hope that it will eradicate itself without taking out a lot of people This is why we cant expect it to fizzle out|0 Ben Carson is a Neurosurgeon surely he can be trusted|1 Thats the aim Thanks|1 We should stop holding these people above others dont because they are good at pretending to know shit|0 This made me burst out laughing|1 with the amount of irony and straight up comic buffoonery I imagine well have a new novel called Catch Covid19Catch19 When someone grandstands or mocksunderplays a situation only to have the results of that situation directly affect them for the worseBoy did you see what Rudy Gobert did What a real Catch19|1 Question in your opinion do you think the death rate is 25|0 Will do thank you|1 Nope Im running a VERY low grade and I CAN work through it but Im coming up on 3 weeks of vacation in 48hrs and figure why risk my coworkersGranted the vacation was for my cross country wedding that likely isnt happening so its become quarantine leave|0 Hong Kong is always heavily stocked on masks because a huge number of people there wore them daily before COVID19 Hong Kong is also a major port for Chinese exports and has a great point in the supply chain as a result|1 Okay now how many travelers are actually going to pay with bitcoin instead of their sky miles card or whatever|1 If 500mg a week is effective prophylaxis then medical personnel and high riskelderly people should have been on it yesterday|1 Thats not true I was in northern Italy for a week until Monday Florence and Bologna and from my personal experience you would see fewer people out every day That was before the lockdown that took place couple of days ago Sure its not Wuhan but even people in denial are getting scared seeing those numbers Cinemas theaters football stadiums etc are closed and you might actually get fined arrested if youre outside without a reason It wont be as effective as in Wuhan but fear is almost as strong of a factor as a total lockdown|0 The damned thing started in China|0 Good for them but thats not what I was saying I read so many times from different countries that the virus will infect about 23 of the population|1 Who Trump has a lot of critics Because he is an idiot That said there was almost no criticism of him closing flights to China Except a few comments from minor officials that was amplified on Fox No one in the DNC or Democrat leadership in Congress objectedIt was the correct move It bought us time But since he fired the pandemic response and biosecurity teams in the WH and absolutely failed to in anyway manage the early testing problems that time was wasted|0 If its feasible do it But if its a a money pit lets not waste time|1 Ok this is awesome Thank you for the reply I am going to keep it up then Even if it only helps 1 person then I am happy|1 In OH the governor is extending unemployment benefits to everyone who will lose work over this|0 Thanks So that confirms it again like in the old papers from weeks ago already Most people sadly get that wrong also in the media and dont even ask how the numbers are defined and just take it as a given that it is all people tested positive not all people ill who are tested positive|1 Could also just be big news It seems Sophie Trudeau caused a big delay the other day It seems they take the time to confirm big information when it comes up which as nerve racking as it is is a very good thingBut yeah somethings up|1 Could write delivery time on the package or the time it will be safe to handle Not sure about things like milk though especially in places like Australia|1 He better make a new disc with a 30 foot diameter|1 Youre just delusional The happiest and healthiest countries on earth practice a BALANCE of capitalism and socialism Its not an extreme of one or the other|1 Wow Shes not considerate at all What about the people on the plane What about the person delivering groceriesI dont know where Milan Italy is I gotta admit that I wonder what shed say about me|1 No hugs but everything else is still on the table right|1 So wrong|0 I really dont understand this response Do none of them have older or ill friends or relatives they care aboutI live with my mother and Im terrified Im going to bring this home her She has bad lungs so it could be a death sentence for her|0 This doesnt make sense the orginal response was still better than almost all other European countries|1 This article is only the number in hospitals The federal government has ventilators in the strategic stockpile Cant remember the number or article where I saw this stated though Will try to find itHere you go httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed18173863 I didnt read the whole article just the abstract but it says it details the type and quantity of equipment stockpiled|1 Im surprised they didnt go with 666 since 6 is a lucky number there|1 Why do this Also now he has germs on his own hands that he has transferred to his drinky drink So hes possibly infected himself|0 Its usually 95 not 65 The cheaper ones are at 65 A 95 age limit means the vast majority of insurances need to pay out Then it is just a glorified savings plan with a bit of extra money of the insured dies earlier than expected|1 no kidding they couldnt cope before the outbreak hate to see what happens now even with limited cases|0 The one person in the USA who randomly catches the virus just happens to be right around where they are quarantining people with the virus I dont think thats a big jump to say that they may have fucked up quarantinethats exactly what i was thinking it only takes one slipup |0 No man its redditors Im not seeing this sort of garbage spreading anywhere else According to reddit the world is going to end in a month Panic and fear mongering can be equally as harmful as complacency|0 This sounds awful Im so sorry you have to live in fear I really hope he comes around|0 Can someone please explain to me how there are already over 32000 scholarly articles related to COVID19|1 but but but just a flu bro|0 Tip A lot of breads and bakery products like scones can be frozenSo grab the stuff you see reduced as well and look on your phone to check that particular item on Google to confirm |1 Yep I usually use them for cleaning bathrooms and have a habit of squeezing some of the extra liquid out first so they dry quicker Now Im making sure I shake the canister first so the liquid is evenly distributed|1 The misinformation on this sub is also insane|0 This isnt the right path because there are lots of reports of 2050 year olds getting extremely sick from Covid19 Unless you want to take a small risk of dieing|0 Im no idiot And I havent seen SQUAT worth of misinformation on REDDITBy far the greatest amount of disinformation is from the dont worry be happy types and government agencies|0 I am sure most insurance policies dont cover pandemic or war etcwe are all bankrupt anyway They can take my 2005 Honda Civic away|0 That is wild I think Texans are usually more prepperminded given Texan culture is very individualistic self reliance is important etc so Im sure itll hit soon if mainstream media continues to report on this|1 Mmmm suspicious|0 Would short term disability cover that Quarantine has to be a priority no matter what because the public health must come first There should be some legal financial protection for people in that situation even if its just allowing bills to be on hold But with the current direction out countries are going on I dont see it happening any time soon|0 Fuck thos made me tear up|0 CDC should be held accountable Im glad we have people bringing up past comments because we cant forget and sweep this under the rug|1 All non essential federal workers on paid leave starting this Monday 16th for three weeks NOT working from home just sent home Source got the call an hour ago|0 thats ok all it had left was 3rd party stuff|1 OMG Iran is fucked|0 Build the Wall around every prison|0 Fair points|1 good movie that|1 I saw that and felt it was far outside the experts best guesses at the time Ohio is leading in a lot of ways but that may have been hyperbolic|1 Details on edits and sounds kinds on kittens Profit health systems and warm woolen mittens Natural disasters tied up with strings These are a few of my favorite things sing ithttpsyoutubekwN3LJdGyuUt20 reply info to learn more about this bot including fun stats|1 Came for this Was not disappoint|1 Pass an emergency state law and then fight it out in court Eff the Feds get it done Every delay is going to cost thousands of lives if not more|0 Thank you My anxiety was spiking again|1 I was at Costco yesterday and watched a woman cough into her hand and then grab the side of the cart Right about the same place a child would I almost walked over and offered her some hand sanitizer I probably should have I realize seasonal allergies are in full swing I have them but good grief|1 Based on the disease trajectory I think the east coast is probably seeing infection levels onpar or higher than the rest of the US on a percapita basis You have decent international traffic and lots of crowded population centers with plenty of close contactA lack of testing does not mean a lack of cases Cases arent created as soon as a test is confirmed Given our very limited testing a single identified case probably indicates many more infected already|0 Sure What does testing have to do with it if you assume everyone showing symptoms is sick|0 Yeah its probably true Nissan just announced this morning they are shutting their Japanese plant down temporarily with more to come My mom works for a parts manufacturer for carsheavy machinery and they are also coming to the same conclusions They cant get the parts out of China to finish manufacturing here in the stateseu and they dont have the infrastructure in the US facilities at least for hiring the temporary workforce needed to cover that much demand Theyre considering a shut down once the final shipments of supplies come in next weekNot to mention if people in the factories get each other sick or contaminate the product thats a massive lawsuit waiting to happen|0 Fortunately my girlfriend is taking it pretty seriously We both work in healthcare and she has a degree in microbiology so we try to stay educated I spend more time reading about it than she does so once a day she says Whats the news on the virus And I give her a rundown of whats going on in the world Weve got a pretty good stash of food cleaning products and goods to last us a while About three weeks back I started talking to my parents about getting a plan together were all located in the south so weve had more time to prepare They agreed and have been stocking up not making unnecessary trips out to the store etc Friends and coworkers arent outright dismissive but arent hunkering down Ive just had to let it go I love them all but I cant save everyone Its their job to figure it out|1 Your screen name is medical advice brah Why cant we talk freely|0 Its a bad move going anywhere near airports at this point|0 100 I dont know where these fuckers learned these bad habits|0 Yeaaaahthats kinda click baity I mean you can say that about anywhere these days Not very useful|0 Ive read each and every one of your posts Thank you very much and Ive been spreading itTheyre the most important instructions ever|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Thank you for my morning chuckle|1 They have one big anti bacterial alcohol factory they could have max produce since early February but its only one week ago that they doubled the production|0 So is there a standardized test that is being used in the US How many swabs is considered positive how long of a turn around time on the results Anyone know Thanks|1 Well its officially not a flu anymore |1 I see people preparing down here but not in mass yet I know for Irma people were in full on panic over 7 days before it arrived before any interruptions to supply chain stores were empty So it doesnt take much but by that measurement people here are really calm I know many people are already prepared but the masses are not worried yet|0 I agree with the WHO on this one but that would be really hard to implement as these are people not livestock Especially that the WHOs solution infers that there are new infections which will stress and panic everyoneMy solution far from politics would be test everyone quarantine the positive cases let the negative cases leave and ask them to selfisolate for 24 days longest proven incubation periodBut this solution or the WHOs one is PR nightmare for Japan|0 Any criticism of Dr John Campbell is immediately criticized and downvoted I dont understand or really trust his huge following|1 This will be interesting to study in coming years 50 of people are asymptomatic 10 are wiped out Why|1 Its in Australia And Southern Africa and South America Its summer there now That theory wont fly plus the flu just migrates in Jets The Spanish flu circled the globe in three waves This wont kill you But losing your job might|0 Nice|1 The stat about the respirator and oxygen can be found on page 32 listed in the paragraph about severe cases It checks outSevere cases are defined as tachypnoea 30 breaths min or oxygen saturation 93 at rest or PaO2FIO2 300 mmHg Critical cases are defined as respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilation shock or other organ failure that requires intensive care About a quarter of severe and critical cases require mechanical ventilation while the remaining 75 require only oxygen supplementation And from page 12Approximately 80 of laboratory confirmed patients have had mild to moderate disease which includes nonpneumonia and pneumonia cases 138 have severe disease dyspnea respiratory frequency 30minute blood oxygen saturation 93 PaO2FiO2 ratio 300 andor lung infiltrates 50 of the lung field within 2448 hours and 61 are critical respiratory failure septic shock andor multiple organ dysfunctionfailureI seriously hope these stats are larger in china because of severe air pollution and 50 of chinese men being smokers A 1 in 5 chance of needing hospitalization is actually terrifying|0 But if they did come ashore that would make the US numbers for coronavirus go up And it seems that is a worse outcome than the people on the ship being safe|0 Thats the plan theyre introducing tougher measures now as they said they would|1 This mostly American sub shit so hard on China a couple weeks ago and now were fucking up way harder than they ever did|0 Los Alamos lab researchers produced the study It is only a preprint meaning it has not been peer reviewed by any medical journals and not published by any medical journals yet And yes I do trust that editorial board from those journals be it JAMA Lancet new england Medical adhere to rigorous scientific scrutiny by experts before they are published|1 Thats funny I just took my kid in with 101 fever and cough and had to beg for FLU test and waiting results in morning His last day of school was Monday and has been home with me since Thats either maximum incubation for the flu or minimum for you know what No PPE at hospital and if its not the FLU then we dont know what it is Goodnight|0 We all could be in this situtation This discrimination is horrible Lets hope we can all do our part to not let this become a new normal|0 One is based in hope the other in reality Dont get it twisted|1 Thanks so much for those kind words Ill be sure to pass that across to her They are doing great in what was already a really demanding job So many unsung heroes in this battle|1 Wow The Imnotaracist Imactuallyavictimofthosefilthy unwashedracists defense Convincing|1 Very interesting Here in this paper its switched because L type relates type I in this paper while S relates to type II and they say that type II is more virulent They dont bring in the similarities to the pangolin coronavirus and leave it at the bat reservoir connection Im wondering why they didnt choose to do an analysis of similarities between pangolin coronavirus and these two strains Honestly Im thinking the connections in the second paper make more sense but this definitely shows a reversal of conclusions based on analysis parameters|1 Not trying to diminish the severity of this at all because it is certainly bad news but wont those workers be immune now once they recover|1 Idk why youre being downvoted I would love to know the same But reddit is such an echo chamber when it comes to the US healthcare discussion they have people elsewhere in the world believing Americans are in some dire conditions over here because of how health insurance works|1 sorry my b|0 Gamestop stores smell like feet|1 Also pretty much racists using the CCP as a justification and cover to shit on the Chinese people Propaganda designed to divert attention away from USs own problems|0 Gas on fire|0 That is really good The developments are fantastic|1 we love a good prayer|1 China is a pretty big country|1 I also sent him an email Hopefully they have the sense to cancel it|1 That is fascinating I read someones book where she was battling chronic fatigue and she said it all started after catching a kind of flu in Paris I believe the book was called How To Be Sick I read it when I had another chronic illness that after ten years is gone I hope survivors of this illness dont have long term effects but early studies may be suggesting otherwise |0 Orange County will be proud|1 Quarantine is going to happen anyway if we dont get control of the virus soon which seems unlikely if we quarantine sooner rather than later we could save a lot of lives But they wont They will wait until its already too late and the health care system is overwhelmed and people are dying because the system cant keep up|1 Yeah I agree on trying to leave a positive mark on your time alive I hope eveything gets under control I am on the risk poblation due to some health problems I have so I am very wary of this Specially when I am going to London soon and Ill sleep on the airport I am already taking all the preventive measures possible so I hope it all goes alright And I truly hope China gets it under control ASAP the citizens on the affected zones are having a very bad time|1 Up to 18yo they do After that it is really cheap actually you buy a cheap flight to Gdask do some shopping visit dentist return Considering how much money you will save on doing shopping in Poland the dentist can end up being free |1 Social services are somewhat scary right now wont lie Im interning full time at a shelter im a student and we are being given the choice to be there so Im doing 3 days there and 2 days at home as of right now Who knows how bad this will get or how much risk weve already exposed ourselves to though Im just not sure were being told enough|0 Yeah flush kill people this is another flu that your over reacting too its gunna and has killed people but your all filled with the media and think this is the end of time|0 I just bought a portable UVC light Hope it helps I am troubled at work due to my coworker who meets up with a lot of Vendors|1 They havent officially advised those who are vulnerable to self isolate though|0 People here still think its a joke|1 Ivanka took a picture with the Australian Minister who tested positive The Trump family should really get tested both for theirs and everyones sake|1 I want to print a hundred copies of this and plaster my office with them A group of women in their fifties keeps complaining about the fear mongeringfake news how this is just another fluand most people are fine I finally got them to stop it when I pointed out that we have 100 employees that are 60 The average age at my work is very high All the preparations are to protect THEM With a mortality rate between 3 and 8 for people in their 60s and 70s statistically AT LEAST one person we work with will die of this I want to be wrong and I hope that I bought a bunch of extra canned food for nothing But all these people who seem to know more science than the CDC and WHO and declaring this not a big deal are driving me crazy Just buy some damn canned goods to protect your grandma|0 Well if thats the case then why would need 1000 of these fictional things every month|1 We cant say that right now For all we know well get 30 new cases tomorrow that are already in the hospital I dont know how much is being tested right now lets wait until the end of this week|1 Toddlers are cute He looks like Gollum|1 america has the resources of a continent and is actually mostly energy sufficient so could match it if it chose to Europe as a whole as well|1 Whats the source on thatThese are the numbers Ive seen copy paste from another thread Canada had 252 confirmed cases on mar 14 and 341 confirmed cases of coronavirus on mar 15 That gives a one day increase of 35 Italy had 229 confirmed cases on feb 24 and 325 cases on feb 25 That gives a one day increase of 42 Italy saw an increase of 45 on Feb 26 to bring their total confirmed cases up to 470 So just based off of the total cases we are 19 days behind italy but the virus also seems based on confirmed cases to be spreading slower in Canada I feel like it should also be noted that Italy already had 11 deaths by feb 25 7 by feb 24 and 12 by feb 26 whereas Canada has currently only had 1 This combined with the slower growth rate in confirmed cases indicates to me that Canada currently has far fewer true cases including unconfirmed and undetected compared to how many italy would have had on Feb 25 Edit as of 1249 mst on Mar 16 Canadian deaths from coronavirus has increased to 4 all at the Lynn Valley Care Centre in North VancouverEdit Canada had 441 cases on March 16 up 29 from march 15My source has 655 cases in Italy on feb 27 a 39 increase from Feb 26Canada currently March 17 has 598 cases a 35 increase from march 16|1 FYI events industry is already tanked for the next three months I know plenty who wont be making rent anytime soon Its really bad and theres no easy answer the industry runs on gig workers still|0 So many people in our neighborhood group are asking if they should travel or go on a cruise and people are like YES go live your life Dont live in fear Youre not in the st risk age group Its so selfish|1 Lol no everyone in the world should be exposed to the virus about 912 weeks from now at current rates so it shouldnt last much beyond that|1 Im not actually concerned about the TP shortage Im just freaking confused Dont get me wrong I was going to buy an extra pack just in case I get quarantined but why are people stocking up on TP and only TP My entire city is out of stock hell Amazon is out of stock WHY|0 You acknowledge you have no firsthand experience within CDCLiterally the opposite of what I saidCDC has been consistently late to update guidance and practices based on clear evidence of transmission dynamics consistent with both MERS and SARSThe WHO as well as several independent researchers have said we dont have a clear picture of transmission dynamics Theyve also said there are clear differences between SARS and NCoV But really anyone saying they know for sure how the virus is transmitting is lying So maybe the CDC wasnt able to issue guidance on something no one is sure about right now Considering the stark differences between the infection rates and patterns of SARS MERS and this Id be very hesitant to draw the conclusions you seem to be reaching If the experts are saying we dont know for sure maybe you should take the same approach theyve failed to translate reputable open source evidence into timely communicationsThis is much closer to my area of expertise and it shows that its not yours Open source info gets less and less reliable when you have things like Chinas censorship and unreliable numbers mixed with much of that open source data being from laypersons who really dont know what theyre looking at Oepn source data is being appropriately so looked at very cautiously right now And good thing too how many completely incorrect data points have we gotten so far Remember the snake source story From the briefings Ive seen I havent seen anything to suggest that the CDC has been defecient in terms of open source info Its not their job to pass on unreliable informationtheyve failed to manage basic infection control supply inventories resulting in supply shortages within medical facilitiesCitations of this would be welcome I dont know much here so all I can say is it seems every hospital medical center and indeed every country has shortages Has it occ2to you that this is more complex than youre implying Idk not an expert hereDGMQ has failed to coordinate timely controls at points of entryIve seen the guidance and the directives being put out since mid January while Im sure theyve been defecient this is mostly on local personnel I cant say more than that but this Im familiar with I disagreeand theyve failed to implement plans that have existed for decadesAgain Im familiar with this and honestly youre not wrong But there are lots of political and funding related reasons for this Thats on administrators imo not scientists The consensus Ive heard from my interactions lately is that many at the CDC and HHS feel very I told you so just like they did in 09 1316 and in 03 Maybe thats them covering their ass but the scientific and medical consensus has been there for a long time Its not like the CDC has been pretending diseases dont existYou may or may not be aware that it was not CDC that recommended travel restrictions but rather it was State and Unified Combatant CommandYeah this is getting way closer to my area of expertise and also to classified or just not publicly available info so all Ill say is thats a wild oversimplification I 100 personally saw guidance from the CDC recommending various courses of action You and I both know that decision was made above the CDC and that the recommendation came from several places I wont say anymoreThis is where our perspectives differ As I said you never know who youre interacting with on redditYou really need to reread what I wrote I never said you were wrong just that you had to consider that just because you personally dont understand or agree with something doesnt instantly make the other party wrongTheres a lot of truth to some of the stuff youre saying Of course theres incompetence in the Federal Government my agency is rife with it and they give us guns for christ sake The CDC isnt immune But that incompetence is often caused by beauracratic and administrative chaos All the things you listed which may or may not be true or partially true personally I think there are both good points and not fair points in there are easily explained by that red tape and administrative inefreciency that plagues every agencyDo you seriously think the scientists and doctors at the CDC have been suggesting we shouldnt bother with screening or why bother stockpiling supplies in a pandemic Maybe just maybe theres more to this than just oh if theyre not doing what Id do theyre idiots Which leads me back to my first point You have to be right no other optionYou have been heavily implying if not stating that the scientists and doctors at the CDC have been ignoring relevant SARS and MERS data They are largely experts with years if not decades in their field I guarantee you are not as qualified as them But thay wont stop you from deciding you know better huh Ill ask my questions againFor example youre largely citing SARS and MERS Do you know that the CDC diagram is referring to either of those diseases Does it even refer to NCoV and isnt there evidence that NCoV acts differently than MERS and SARS Maybe this isnt meant to be taken as a strickly scientific doctoral thesisTheres so much you dont know but you HAVE TO be right and they HAVE TO be wrong huh I hope when you look back on this conversation you remember that you made the snide remarks and all I wanted to do was to prompt you to stop and take a second to self reflect I know there are times when I need to Maybe one day you will Dont be the guy who sticks to I cant understand why X happened or why the CDC did Y so ergo they must be wrong Be the guy who takes a second and says I wonder who at the CDC wrote this seat map Are they using different data Was it drawn by interns or was it based on hard data Is this for public consumption or is it part of a directive to CDC staff My experience with the CDC is poor so I suspect theyre just rushed something out but as I dont know anything about the source of the diagram or how they crafted it I cant say for sureGotta get back to work Hope you have a nice night|1 lol at the FDA certifying it without 23 years of testing costing 34 billion no less than 5 bureaucratic hold ups and the blood of the first born Unless OC they have done something like this already or the rest of the government or courts force the issue|1 Id say at this point the window has been closed locked welded shut bored up encased in cement and buried|0 Well when you dont give two shits about your population and you have over a billion of them its very easy to become a powerhouse|1 Yes Thats what its done already about a billion times This mutation is particularly bad and as people recover from this it may mutate again to something even worse Could be months years centuries|0 Wheres the money to pay the parents wages going to come from|0 In Taiwan we were all prepared for the things that are currently going on to happen We know how China works so we were extremely cautious and ignored WHO back in January We are not a part of WHO anyway and thanks to that we only have 42 cases on the island despite having the closest tie to China I tried to warn my friends that lived abroad but they never listened Now the news has proved me right but in the most unfortunate way|0 I mean Ohio is getting test results on people who have been sick for a month or more Test results are way lagging infection|0 Public touchscreen kiosks that ask a single yesno question You press yes because youre sick they usher you out of line and the next person comes up and taps the same fucking touchscreen Doh|0 Im not suggesting to do this but theyre not going to be checking your passport for your travel history to run the tests Do you think people who are desperate to get tested will start lying|0 IT IS MISLEADING While Trump did abolish his pandemic response office in his cabinet he did NOT directly cut the CDCs spending At least not yet What has happened is this Trump proposed a bill to cut the CDCs funding in 2021 Because of this the CDC cut its global disease prevention preparedness by 80 in preparation for this cut So while the CDC did do this in response to Trump he did not tell them nor make them do it Its still a very stupid thing to do and Im sure hes gunna drop the bill after he sees how bad COVID19 spread but its also wrong to spread twisted and misleading information to fit your own agendaSource httpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpcutcdcbudget|0 Their bans cant be serious Its like them banning adult content or counterfeit things online only a few sites are cracked down Most remain open|1 its all fun and games gawking and pointing until its in your neighborhood|1 Yeah but this is CanadaSorry|1 Bars and recreational pot business shutting down Expect forced detox in 23 weeks after supplies run out People will be losing their shit|0 FastMed I know at her location in 2018 they got overwhelmed with the flu and either ran out or came close to running out of the tests for it Not sure if theyre just being cautious or just overwhelmed already with the flu She didnt sound worried this morning and then it changed once she got the notice |0 Coming from a minority group I can tell you the concern is increasing the risk of being physically attacked Using a scarf is easier to do atm|0 imo the entire Vietnamese news outlet is heavily regulated by the government so there is a lot of distrust Could be factual in this case but Im just suggesting this could be fabricated|0 The thing is the virus will most likely be equally everywhere by then So you would be just as likely to get it from BC as you would from San FranLA So I think its equally risky to be anywhere public at that point April 11 is more than 4 weeks away By then the virus will be in the 10000s most probably and we dont know what type of measures the government will take then Its uncertain what will happen when the numbers get that high Disneyland might be closed by government order or the park itself might decide its too risky There is no definitive answer right now for something a month away The epidemic evolves very quickly and the government is very reactive instead of proactive so we dont know what theyll do when the numbers get that highSome governments have decided to stop public gatherings greater than 5000 people No body knows what the US will do in a month|0 A couple of observations earliest symptoms are gastrointestinal probably due to the binding of the virus to the ACE2 receptors same as with SARS you listed as potential treatments Oseltamivir and Hydroxychloroquine however from what Ive read Oseltamivir alone is useless only in combination with Kaletra Lopinavir Ritonavir it helps and while Hydroxychloroquine may be as helpful as Chloroquine the information is lacking I wish this were true as I cant find Chloroquine to buy Kaletra was not mentioned and in some other thread someone called it ineffective quoting from Management of corona virus disease19 COVID19 the Zhejiang experience PMID 32096367 Early antiviral treatment could alleviate disease severity and prevent illness progression and we found lopinavirritonavir combined with abidol showed antiviral effects in COVID19 Shock and hypoxemia were usually caused by cytokine storms The artificial liver blood purification system could rapidly remove inflammatory mediators and block cytokine storm|0 Thats not the inflection point in the number of cases its the inflection point in the number of new cases before the peak that is the third derivative probably has reached zero not the second Still good news because the number of dead is 25 down from 30The doubling rate is now around 45 days its never been this low|0 You actually think SARSCOV2 is a strain of the Flu INFLUENZA The Flu kills less than 006 of people under 65 compared to this Virus which kills 13 people under 65Now if you are older than 65 it is a lot worse but this virus is still unacceptably deadly to younger people 21 times more deadly compared to the FluH1N1 Swine Flu in 20092010 alone killed up to 575000 and it had a 008 death rate and it is less infective than this so I have a feeling this coronavirus is gonna be REALLY BAD|0 Yeah we told you idiot leaders that weeks agoBut you guys were still stuck on stupidThis administration needs to be removed ASAP|0 Italy is tracking higher for percent dead and they have one of the top ranked health care systems especially in the north|0 My daughter and I were talking all this over on the phone today and came to the same conclusion We both agreed with the surmise that the primary motivator is to mitigate on behalf of healthcare and the economy Will backfire It they incrementally pick up the pace of response then it might actually work|1 If you dont like what a business sellsthen dont buy itbuild your ownThis really isnt complicated to anyone except people who think that others are somehow obligated to give them free stuff|1 then is there the possibility that SARS2 will be worse in the winter monthsWorse in the sense that the commoncold is worse in winter months than summer ones sureIf thats the case however it means that likely no or very few infections only people who have never been exposed before will be serious after the pandemic subsidesIn the podcast which I also detailed in the article above he also talked about the likelihood of seasonalityrelevant summary on what he said about this httpsiimgurcomH2RU3sSpng|0 We also lack domestic capability to make and test a lot of kits at the moment|0 Here in Norway all schools have closed Everyone who can work from home All social gatherings are discouraged children should not play together outside everybody are asked to keep a good distance when shopping Everyone I know are staying at home So we are doing a lot to prevent this virus right now|0 Not about panic buying but planning and preparing for a variety of scenarios|1 Hey guys did anyone actually read this paper Is nobody going to mention the fact that they used official CCP numbers as a basis They had a huge amount of travel data as well but its not clear how they inferred the infected amount over the travel timesThis is my hot take on it I suspect they titrated the variables in their travelbased model to match what the official data model reported Why do I think this I dont see how they could turn travel data on its own no matter how immense and accurate it is to determine infection rates They had to base it on some sort of data at some pointSomeone please correct me if I misunderstood|0 I know when I have visitors we tend to go out a fair bit uh oh|1 Dear leader say testing make number go up|1 Yeah its really open to interpretation There are body bags in the vehicle there are people lying down in what looks like an isolation ward whos to say those were for the people there And if they are so what exactly Which this guy just casually wanders into Yeah no wonder they arrestedquarantined him|0 Trump is of German descent Although no denying US nurturing|0 All people are generally nice There are lots of assholes there are governments that make their citizens believe theyre surrounded by evil foreign monsters there are criminals and murderers but the vast majority of humans has nothing to do with this shit Even in places with terrorists hiding behind every corner youll always find thousands if not millions of genuinely nice and peaceful folks We live in a thriving society of 753 billion people and we were able to get to this point because an average JoeAhmedIvan just wants to find happiness not to smash his neighbors head with a stone|0 This theory is based on the free flow of information from Europe regarding the efficacy of their system vs ours Unfortunately I dont believe that this comparison will be deemed newsworthy by senior editorial and journalistic leaders that are responsible with the prioritizing of news|1 The reason its called Military Intelligence|1 getting ready to go check the mail at the end of the hallhttpsuploadwikimediaorgwikipediacommons88ePositivepressurebiosafetysuitjpg|1 Watch the financial markets These wizards of the world of commerce arent exactly dumb Why are they acting the way they are Follow the money|1 Smh yet theres a FB post saying we have like 56 recoveries |1 Its like the army of the 12 monkeys but with penguins|1 Yes But before 2016 we were not setting the place on fire while also trying to live in it|1 This might be what youre looking for I found this article which seems to talk about two individuals Here is a link to a translated version httpspapagonavernetwebsitelocalekosourcekotargetenurlhttp3A2F2Fwwwhealthinnewscokr2Fnews2FarticleViewhtml3Fidxno3D12611httpspapagonavernetwebsitelocalekosourcekotargetenurlhttp3A2F2Fwwwhealthinnewscokr2Fnews2FarticleViewhtml3Fidxno3D12611Interestingly case 27 who came back from Macau is a Chinese citizen who is the daughterinlaw of case 25 who did not visit Macau as far as this article tells us Seems like the daughterinlaw part is lost in translation but it says that in the original Korean|1 Thats a pretty pessimistic viewpoint|1 so many layers of irony when you consider snakes often represent the devil in the bible|0 So now anyone who looks Chinese should be quarantinedThat is some grade A racism|0 Unfortunately no i dont and amazon is sold out So frustrating |0 There was already this proposal discussed that the military take their citizen from the boat directly to the closest base in Yokosuka but it was quickly dismissed despite japan agreeingSo yes it wont cause an incident but the US fish seem to want to take the risk and infect their military personnel especially if they dont have a good quarantine area to handle 500 bourgeois|0 There are tens of thousands of flulike cases in this season many of them cannot be explained properly It takes time for epidemiologists to make a conclusion Doctor Wenliang Li did not know humantohuman transmission as well when he shared the info with his colleaguesIt is possible that someone did intentionally hide some important information the suspects include local government local CDC some local hospitals Chinese central government national CDC It is also possible that the current system just cannot prevent a virus like thisIt needs a serious investigation to really draw a conclusion Any claim based on simple assumption but no solid evidence is just a political slander|0 Not everyone is motivated purely by money|0 I love how you guys immediately to panic conclusion Orr its been around 2 months hasnt done much and you all barely noticed before MSDNC started hyping it to the moon|1 No only shops like shoe shops flower shops etc all the non essential stuff Groceries and pharmacies are open of course but even there people are being asked not to get close to each other 1 my distance at least and police can close them if they dont make their customers actually do itOffices and factories are invited to close down non necessary production andor implement remote working proceduresLots of factories and offices are also lessening the crowding by changing shiftwork hours etcWe work as IT consultants and three of us we were supposed to go to a customer instead only one went and we were given a desk at 3mt distance from everyone else mandatory hand sanitizer at the entranceEverything is changing for realThere actually are cops around asking people what they are doing outside and if they have a valid reason to leave home|1 Physical activity outdoors lacks in the colder months Holidays and sugar increase in the colder months Thats all I was saying|1 I dont think the CDC tracks this but I would like to know both the number of flu related hospitalizations and deaths in both the vaccinated and unvaccinated I absolutely believe in getting the flu shot and wish more people did|1 According to a WHO Press Conference after an indept study of five China citieshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo0q1XMRKYM it was uncontrolled diabetes that had an increased death risk of 92 If your diabetes is under control with drugs or diet then I would think this doesnt pertain to you|0 When hand sanitizer doubles as lube|1 Again youre not in your citys subreddit This is a subreddit about the corona virus that is mainly affecting people living in ChinaYou have no idea of the implications and the damage and chaos and hysteria would cause in a country of 14 billion peopleEveryone in China is taking the virus very seriously so Im not sure what your point is You want us to start posting videos online of us crying Would that satisfy you Would that be enough of a reactionAgain China is the one most heavily affected and youre on a subreddit about China I get your point and agree for those not in China but youre wrong in the context of being on a subreddit about ChinaIf this was rChicago then I would agree with you|0 I wish theyre more transparent with us when reporting these pending cases|1 Im talking about Canada where there is still less than 50 confirmed cases Edited to say that I see you are talking about the USA My mistake|0 That is the dilemma of governments as well They are not sure if this is something that will quickly start to fade away soon so they tend to perform the minimum required action to contain the current situation and to keep the world running|0 Are you gonna pretend that youve never heard of jack coke lmao|1 you missed the point of the previous comment Testing doesnt mean they will put someone in a hospital room but will contain the spread as much as possible|0 Yeah Id explain to the manager that she has to get tested when she comes back or he potentially will lose his entire staff for a month while you guys have to quarantine because of her Can also all come together as a group and tell them you wont work if she is on site unless she gets tested Hopefully if you guys have any olderat risk coworkers you can step up and protect them|1 Think of it like this Reddit profits off the disproportionately high participation of Americans on its platform Americans are used to saying whatever they like in online forums If Reddit were a forum that openly applied a lot of country specific gag orders then Americans would flock to some other forum And Reddit would suffer So Reddit makes attempts to appear they they are NOT hindering Freedom Of Speech If you cant extrapolate from that and understand why openly restricting Freedom Of Speech would be problematic for Reddit then all I can say is have a nice day and dont take candy from strangers|0 Im lucky I have a 10 million gallon pond in my backyard Its community property but there are 4 other ponds in our tract Im buying those straws that let you drink pond water|1 With new Quest Diagnostics testing and the one other fast test I think well surpass 1000 by next week And even the 1000 confirmed positive would only be a fraction of the total number of people that actually have it since people with mild symptoms wont be going to the hospital or doctor|1 Mines pretty much said fuck off go die I dare you just make sure to be in for 9am tomorrow|0 The government doesnt give a flying fuck about the homeless lol|1 How can South Korea do drive through tests and then text the results Why is the us taking sooooo long to even get test results back I know of a patient whos been waiting for the test results for like 4 days|1 I work in a call center and have had to work longer hours in a closed environment to deal with call volume Mandatory overtime|1 I think she meant her husband sees no reason to be concerned about the virus|0 If youre too late for the liquor as well just double up on the hand sanitizer In all seriousness though have you checked hardware stores for N95 masks I found some that are supposed to be for paintingsanding but they are N95 and better than nothing|1 It is true And now as a father of an Italian child and living in another European country I have the dilemma to bring him over here so that his mother can go to work I dont know if Ill book a flight or go by car in the next days|1 This sub has turned into political bullshit Trump bad Communist China great Completely delusional Just because you dont understand how the world works doesnt mean the CDC or the federal government are acting maliciously|0 How is it not shitty though There were only 10000 cases Very best case scenario thats a 6 mortality rate IF nobody else out of the 8500 current cases dies Thats horrifying I thought we were looking at 12 in the population overall|1 Also imagine being under quarantine and unable to get cigarettes Do you want to quit under such a highstress circumstance Do it now and get the withdrawal over with After 4 days the physical withdrawal is overYou can totally do this Im a former smoker too|1 Yes correct hence why you might actually be in a better position because your immune response will be taken down a notch|1 Our grocery bill goes up at least 200 a month when the kids are out of school So imagine you work at a restaurant or any tourism industry Or social gathering places and your hours are getting cut because everyone is staying at home but you also need more money for childcare and groceries because schools are closed This sort of thing helps|1 because its literally not a flu Both the flu and SARSCoV2 are contagious viruses that cause respiratory illnessBut the flu is a strain and type of influenza while SARSCoV2 is a strain of Coronavirus that causes Covid19 It has nothing to do with the flu and is objectively not any type of flu|1 People could arrange mass sit in at home protests Enough people have videophoto documentation to organize on the internet a plan to kick back in their residences I understand that people will could loose their jobs and wont be able to Other people will be able to work with their employers to make this happen more broadly Some big companies are starting to take action on this like Amazon canceling management travel even between states Ive seen a lot of comments expounding on how quarantine will never work in America how people are too independent too inconsiderate to stand for it Flipside of that as a lot of Americans dont have the freedom to not work Finding a way to protest that reality under the incoming potential of this neurovirus wave I could see that having an impact Municipalities could also be worked with Washington state is probably looking for ways to try to help parents deal with all of the school closures|0 That 100000 deaths figure was explicitly stated in the context of an absolute worst case scenario contingency plan not the number of deaths that are actually anticipated httpswwwgooglecoukampswwwbbccouknewsampblogsthepapers51787141|0 I hope these hoarders get publicly shamed while they stand in the return line|0 I cant find sanitizer anywhere in central Jersey hopefully BJs or Costco has it|1 I guess mistakes were made but reacting to something new can be difficultWhat drives me mad is that nobody is learning from them and they are just following the same trendhttpsimgurcomgallery5NrXD7F|0 You know Im actually not telling anyone I know anything because of exactly what youre saying Its like youre an idiot if you suggest it So instead ima advocating in this mildly anonymous forum Social distancing NOW|0 Show up to work with a mask goggles and gloves on It wont be long before your point is made Youll make shoppers realize that the virus is here and make them go home Youll hopefully make your boss realize the store should be shutting downYour boss cant make you remove your PPE thatll expose you to the coronavirus and put you in a health and safety risk You can refuse to do unsafe work which includes working without PPE during a pandemic|1 I was close to throwing down my mom has pulmonary issues and Im not about to lose my mom because if somebody wanting to openly announce their stupidity|0 How is buzzfeed even remotely considered a trustworthy source|1 I generally fare just fine with colds and other general illnesses I definitely dont get knocked on my ass that much But it also seems like Im sick just to a mild degree like sniffles or slight cough more often than those around me And it seems to take longer to get over things like 2 weeks or so to get over a mild cold But this could all just be mental who knowsI havent been super ill in quite a while last year I did get the flu and that knocked me on my butt for 67 days but it was during some travels and I think a strain Im not really exposed to a ton in Asia vs North America so I think that may have had something to do with itEDIT that being said up until about 34 years ago minor illnesses would typically be the things that led to a bout of the IgA vasculitis and associated symptoms which is sort of my big concern with COVID19 that id catch it immune system would overreact like it did to cause my IgA vasculitis and other immune complications and lead to a much more severe infection Thankfully this overreactive hyper reactive immune response I havent really experience in the last few years to my knowledge|1 IMO they should close trading for at least a week in general but I dont think the exchange would count as essential healthcarefood related work or I hope not either way those people arent really taking the train to get there|1 Basically this quarantine was a fake news issued by Japanese media to keep calm people Everyone on that ship should do a new quarantine in a proper space|0 Im concerned about all the Democrat candidates especially Bernie Sanders Theyre constantly shaking hands and meeting hundreds of people daily Its not a good time to be on the campaign trail|0 Resources are always rationed in every country in the world I can tell you with 100 certainty if you know the right person or have the right amount of public fame you get priority What other countries have is greater equality of access just like they have less inequality in wealth Doesnt mean that there arent rich people or people treated speciallyPerson making 10k and 40k will have equal healthcare access in the UK Someone that is a professional footballer though Yeah theyre getting the red carpet treatment|1 got a link for this id need to share it with colleagues thanks|1 At this point this epidemic is unstoppable We can only hope to delay|0 Dead on Exactly My good buds are a husband wife team of orthopedist and nurse working for Novartis 2 weeks ago I found a used ventilator for sale 5000 I suggested they buy with with others in their area They laughed Neither knows how to intubate at even a 50 competency level The doc said it would be more successful for him to punch a hole with a pen and suck out the gunk in the lungs You are exactly correct A respiratory therapist is required|1 Grande Coronalatte please|1 I could see National Guard medical resources used for nonCoronavirus related care while anything related to the virus goes to traditional clinicshospitals|1 Well to be fair no country could implement a system that other countries could follow exactly for this scenario Theyre all too different in social economic cultural aspects Though theres still basic things that everyone can do like washing your hands socialdistancing etcPeople like to make it sound simple like asking why America cant just do what Singapore did and its too complex to put something like that in place here Not saying America is taking the right approach by any means but you get the point|1 Cooking the books by not counting positive tests without serious symptoms|0 I will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200404 235134 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 We may be in the lowest mortality bracket but we want to stay healthy tooWe also tend to be too busy broke and tired to prep plus with our stress we have to worry about possibly developing a mild case and becoming too sick for too long to study properly|0 No that guy lives in Brooklyn somewhere near Atlantic Terminal and there is no evidence he has it he just thinks he may and was more upset that he wasnt getting tested and was told to just try to stay home|0 Things are so safe in western Europe and the U S that people start to think nothing can really hurt them|1 If this is true it is horrifying Prayer wont save you but close proximity to other sciencedeniers might actually harm you and many others Wow|0 Most masks we buy in Hong Kong after January are imported from the US Korea Japan and SE Asia China stopped all exporting of mask since early Feb|0 That is evil|0 Can this sub create a megathread for medical workers to share their experiences Ive been hearing the strangest stories from friends in my state People being tested for corona but hospital saying there are no masks available even though weeks prior they said they were stashing them away for coronavirus cases Private sector tests not being known vs tests conducted by public sector Literally no transparanecy at all by our government officials and i think thats the scariest thing were dealing with|0 Thank you so muchIm still on the verge of breaking downMy mom works in a school and is in her early 50s |1 Flee to whereA friend of mine is from italy and he thinks that if the shit hits the fan there will be a lot of people try to get from South Italy to North Italy because the clinics are much better up there He is from South Italy and the told that their clinics are not prepared at all for a lot of ill people They are understaffed and dont have enough ICU beds and respirators|1 I doubt there will be any consequences When do companies ever suffer for their wanton disregard for humanity anymore They fluff the nests of our politiciansThis whole thing has me so cynical|0 I work in a rehab in the villages and yeah 95 of the patients are dying if the virus gets in the only ones that will survive are the Coleman prisoners|0 I sadly have to agree that I would really have liked to punch this asshole|1 Is this said on their website or on TV Be interested to read it|1 Keeping addicts from access to a clean needle exchange does not stop addicts from doing drugs Stop watching Fox News|1 Well fuck I thought of this idea the other day My inspiration was from nolvadex It binds to the e2 receptors in breast tissue therefore preventing estrogen from binding to the receptor I use peds now Im no doctor or anything Hell im a no body but if other people are having the same thoughts thats pretty cool I found this post stay safe folks We will figure this shit out|1 In Singapore there are no school assemblies and we cant eat in our canteens No wonder why we have 100 cases|0 Yep this is about what Id expect My boss finally told us to wipe off doorknobs wash hands but when someone else mentioned the Cword jokingly of course he said it was just to be clean and because its also flu season For some reason people dont want to acknowledge that they are worried about this Im not sure if they see it as a weakness or what If anyway days to do ANYTHING differently they say its because of the flu|0 Any positive communication is a good thing|1 We will know death rate of old people at least There are a few hundred younger people as well|0 Could see Easter holidays being extended|1 makes me want to release a virus beofre going on vacation just to get empty plazas like that|1 The reason why the US government is so slow on the uptake is only partially due to leadership sleeping at the wheel WHO was the one responsible for people letting their guard down and trusting what the WHO says and by extension China has led many countries with healthcare system more advanced than US to fall Japan and Korea both followed WHOS advice and only restricted travels from wuhan and hubei Many of their festvities went on as usual because this was supposed to be a virus that can be beaten without travel restriction Italy only restricted travel from mainland china but what they did not realize was people were circumventing their defenses by travellin to another country first before crossing the border into italy The US banned all Chinese personel but because other countries were slow on the uptake peoplw got infected by Chinese national overseas and brought the illness back So instead of blaming your government id say the lion share of your anger should be directed at WHO and tjat other country that started all this|0 if were only taking about age distribution then yes Id agree there isnt much to gain from cooking these ones|1 Amber Vinson the Dallas nurse who consulted the CDC now had a fever wanted to know if she could get on a commercial plane Wait a minute Shouldnt she have known herself to not board a plane and travel She was a nurse after all People are going to have to take some responsibility on their own Whether or not govt is inept is a basically a moot point As rich as the USA is we cant afford to put a biological cop on every cornerFor example Why are people especially elderly still boarding cruise ships|1 Im italian thats correct some regions are working to increase the number of available icu beds but I dont think it will even reach 8k after that it will be disastrous in just a week|0 Best thing Ive seen in this group in a while|1 Correct and the ones that did have not required critical care All in all that suggests a situation that for the moment at least is orders of magnitude less severe than Italy or IranThat said I fully expect we will see our first corona death in Denmark before the end of the month|0 Iran declared quarantines do not work and decided to just die|0 You cant declare bankruptcy by just saying it like that|1 Ok thank you I feel like if in the future I need to get a tests or if someone in my family does you guys are right on the cusp of the latest info|1 Viral load increases as the virus reproduce inside someones body It depends where the virus starts and where it ends before doing too much damage and symptoms start to appearSo before symptoms its much highly likely to detect enough of viral load to test positive the closer you are to being symptomatic While unlikely to test positive if youre in an earlier phase|1 It seems like celebs are getting it at a higher rate But that is mainly because they have the wealth to access the amenity which is fair But for average peeps it is not affordable Its like working at Trinobleon weed|1 I remember the refugee crisis nothing on the scale of 911 or this as horrible as it was|0 i blame the english language it stunts thinking at a mass level|0 Plague Ships Plague Trains and Plague PlanesDo you have the Wuhan Flu no ok welcome snacks are at the bar if you do experience side effects of visiting Wuhan like Exorcist symptoms in the next 14 to maybe 30 days do let us knowWould You like to know more |1 Theres a youtuber living abroad that Ive been following for a few years Ive watched him romance date and then fall in love with a young woman who lives near Beijing I think Shes tested negative the whole time When the coronavirus started he was laughing it off I along with a few of his fanbase were encouraging him to get her out of China He finally did so and theyre both relocating to Los Angeles No doubt some strings were pulled but I wonder if itll be enough|1 good chance seems exaggerated Also vaccines usually work by injecting a much less potent version into your system The real scare would be unknown side effects|1 they have yet to go for the screening as they believe the disease is from Allah and if they are infected it is His will so they will just have to accept ithttpswwwmalaymailcomnewsmalaysia20200314stopgivingexcusesgetyourselvesscreenedforcovid19perlismuftitells1846583fbclidIwAR2IVediaRRCFAzEOWRTGeevbpdhVyHuhB5L9jhWnKX4tyeQYDeeUNvhc|0 Yes I read online a few days it can live on surfaces Crazy|1 Playing modern warfare helps|1 I doubt thats true even the disposable N95 masks have like 3 layers of protection and a breathing nozzle Try to find one n wear it so u knw what I mean|1 Be careful of strong breezes a sneeze and a gust of wind and youre fubared|1 But doesnt that still risk the spread of disease|1 Its the world your country has been living for centuries no one outside of America is shocked that America wants to buy the drug and bankrupt the rest of us outside the USA No oneIts basically what youre country is known for|0 Not unless they deliberately want to thin out the herd|1 Muslim League I guess its translated that way said to close every Mosque in Poland to protect people but Catholic Church decided to organize more Mass so less people will come at onceYeah seems legit duh|1 Its true The original holidays are over but streets shops and the subway still empty I might post some photos later|1 Of course they do but a significant portion of it goes to public health which they use and not to the war business aka military|1 Dr Mike Ryan WHO Tech Director just now has explained that the the word itself is counter productive because it implies that the virus is uncontrollable and they are firm right now that it CAN be controlled based on how some countries are dealt with it It actually makes perfect sense|1 Firm rules here to not give you any health tips on how to not die Good thing we have power tripping mods and Chinese ownership right guys|1 Parts of Northern California get snow Seattle is 1 degrees right now which is the same as Kitchener They also get snow and can have cold days Like idk how cold your talking but Kitchener has only had a hand full of really cold days this winter and most of JanuaryFebruary didnt really have snow Vancouver is actually warmer than Seattle right now averages 7 to 9 degrees Throughout January and they have community spread|1 They have a filter question Have you been to a different state besides the US No Ok no test for u|0 the current administration is doing its best to control any release of information and create a coverup that coupled with the amount of misinformation our president is spreading will result in a situation exactly how the Chinese outbreak began|1 Those with preexisting conditions are also at greater risk not just the elderly|1 Well if you get the virus this weeks I am not sure how you are going to enjoy this week|1 Right I stated I was wrong with the test kit but Im still right about how much it will cost you if you actually have it and are in critical condition If your critically ill your not gonna be able to to leave the hospital bed Youll need a respirator just like all the patients in China who are critically ill Im the end youll end up paying possibly more than a thousand dollars if you are critically ill|0 Greed electing a conman And hes got enough social covid touches to get this hard|0 Apoliges for the bad link Here is the correct onehttpchinaxivorgabs20200200062 This is the site that the Chinese researcher is hosting the article on Note Furin is the focus of the research as iterated in the first article The notion of a lack of peer review equating to shaky evidence is lesser imo given that the south china post article mentions a second university confirming the results Still hunting that down will shareEither way it seems that there are competing theories as to whyhow COVID19 is binding or the chance that current strains mutation have the spike with focus on cleaving furin|0 Given the extreme short time span this happened in in Italy Id argue they did a pretty good job They certainly didnt sit around waiting Remember 18 days ago or so Italy had 3 confirmed cases Also Italy started quarantining whole areas when there were 500 or so cases obviously that wasnt enoughbut look at all the countries that are well past that number and are doing absolutely nothing Those will be hit way harder than Italy People are lulled into thinking their growth rate will stay quasi linear until it doesnt and then shit hits the fan|1 Me too NYC Manhattan here and shortness of breathe walking which gave me a ton of anxiety You FYI Im in good shape do pilates 3x a week and I think deep breathing pilates breathing really saved me I too had very very weird pain and a heaviness between my breasts and every now and then my nipples Not looking for hater responses please Just sharing my experience Also I would get very hot but not fever hot I went to a pulmonologist on Jan 21 toward the end of the worst symptoms I would say it lasted 5 weeks|0 Awesome answer|1 He is saying this while hes buying a 650 million dollars yacht Please listen to this podcast if you think bill gates is a saint httpssoundcloudcomcitationsneededepisode45thenotsobenevolentbillionairebillgatesandwesternmedia|1 Agree Antibiotics are for the pneumonia that seems to happen after infection with the virus|1 Man you guys say that since weeks alreadyAlso Italy had way more deaths with the same amount of casesMore people will die of course but we will also have many recoveries plus many many more cases It will not be Italy 20|0 Better just post and believe whatever trash gets put up then Science works too slow for my end of the world fetish|1 I assume that includes your wastewater bill Thats usually the worse part in urban areas My actual water consumption is only like 25m but the corresponding sewer bill is almost twice that for whatever reason|0 I worry that some european countries will have terrible outcomes because their healthcare systems are chronically underfunded and rationed Dont even want to consider 2nd and 3rd world countries|0 Nah were just going to take Irans strategy and dig mass graves for our elderly Its better for the economy|1 Hes a pretty cool dude|1 Western media is no different when it comes to censorship Really Do you even China|0 Oh hell no My life just got started I dont want society to go to shit already I just got a job that I really love too|0 China underreporting the numbers especially infected to the point where the public data may skew the impression of the virus to be far more dangerous than it actually is If the infected in China is in the millions and the deaths are still in the 1k10k range then it would be far less worrying than something which has killed 1000 of the 40K people we know have it|0 Fastburn overflows our healthcare system It means lots of people who could survive covid19 with medical assistance wont get it and theyll die|0 Crazy to think my province Quebec of 800000 already tested over 600 people while we had the first case during the past weekend|0 If Xi gets CV short stocks exposed to China asap|0 Donating its not about how much of what you have you give its about how much you help someone in need Why would i give a fuck if its 1 or 50 of your money for me 25k is 25k|0 I gave in my two weeks to my two jobs Were doing what we have to do Stay firm be at ease in your decision|1 Nihilism is not helping anyone pal Wash your hands and stay at home|0 yeah So is vitamin C How do you think the chinese stopped it all|1 SARS 2 electric boogaloo is not a fun time|0 Keep in mind the cheapest spray wands sold on Amazon are likely not legal to connect to the water system It needs to have a backflow preventer which kind depends on your jurisdiction Spend a little bit more and get something that meets code if possible|1 there are very few cases elsewhereIsolation All those other Chinese cities are isolating though So it seems like it is working|1 The paper by Pradhan et al has been widely discussed severely criticised and was then i believe retracted by the authors themselves|0 Must keep stock market and the Dollar as safe havensUSA cant be shown to have the epidemic until its everywhere otherwise the dollar and the dollar backed system has a big problem|1 Welcome to The Onion universe|1 So wheres the money gonna come for Medical EI when were all sick|0 The sooner it happens the more people die due to collapsed medical systems Better to slow it down as much as possible|0 Yes it was just the first thing that came to mind when I thought jittery|1 Thats for anythingOn Tesla subreddit they always say when do incentives end never mention country or state the meme of the ignorant American reins true|1 Yes I literally put the time stamp on the photo so that people will know that|1 Which study contradicts thatHere is all of them httpsiredditcomrCOVID19commentsfaluhvanexhaustivelitsearchshowsthatonly585sars|0 Those cases didnt just happen overnight Theres an incubation period before the virus can even be detectable My guess is that a very large number of people in the PNW and West Coast in general are already infected I also think that many people who are infected will be asymptomatic Of those who show symptoms many will experience a relatively mild illness But the very weakest members of the population the elderly those with existing serious conditions are fucked Especially if large numbers of healthcare workers selfquarantine|0 Thats not how that works Like at all Particularly because youre ignoring the likely large numbers of walking infected that are not having particularly notable symptoms and are never diagnosed We know these exist because weve found some which likely means weve missed a large number of others as they just seem to have a cold|0 Naw its the Commie Crud when contracted by anyone outside the USA and the Freedom Flu otherwise Please follow the correct and patriotic nomenclature|1 Ok then it should be easy for you to post a reliable source backing that claim up and offering some evidence that the real death count is way offThis subreddit was supposed to be grounded in facts and sources not well obviously bullshit Its just as easy for me to make any claim I want to about the real figures if I dont have to back it up|1 The reluctance to use more aggressive measures can be the difference between success and failureChinese citizens are generally more obedient since their government is authoritarian quasifascist American citizens are nowhere near as obedient Theres no way the US can successfully implement aggressive measures the way China did I listened to that same podcast and thought to myself its good that it worked in China but theres no way that will work in the USThis is only going to get worse I feel like were in the calm before the storm|1 As I said assets to humanity|1 And Indiana is a total fail|0 At least they get a cruise yall just fucked|0 The consensus in the US was that we were over infectious diseases so protection against virusesbacteria became a significant lower priority than diseases like Alzheimers and CancerA consensus This is wrong It came out this week that departments were reporting to and warning the White House for the past three years that we are vulnerable to an epidemicpandemic but the White House suppressed those reports|0 You mean this is why US made a shitshow of flying our folks home increasing the risk in US significantly|0 Thats me Im terrified 5 weeks away from CS because of the underlying conditions and been selfisolating best I can for the last 3 weeks|1 Try reducing your meat intake Especially beef Its really bad for your blood pressure|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 All of your shit is gonna be delivered with covid on it Just sayin brother unless you move out into the woods this is gonna hard to avoid|0 Ive seen links in Reddit for masks last Jan that were scams|0 I wouldnt buy 100 masks for 1999 I actually own N95s because I use them regularly and I pay about 6ea for them If someone wanted to sell me 100 for 20 is be pretty skeptical about their efficacyThat said Im glad you got what you need and were able to afford it It is definitely of higher quality than what I use but would be overkill for me I tend to just toss them after a few uses which is not recommended for biohazardous use one time use only at that point|1 Still no cure yet Sorry Im late to the party|1 If shes at home how is she supposed to know if her oxygen levels drop|0 Actually its an interesting analog to gun violenceCOVID 19 is to mass shootings in which a single shooter equipped with a box magazine fed semi automatic rifle is able to kill 35 people as seen in Las Vegas Orlando Port Arthur Oslo and Christchurch the top 5 deadliest mass shootings all committed by lone actors with semi auto riflesThe flu is analogous to the common 11 gun deaths we see regularly whether its suicide by firearm or gang attacks in Chicago One of them exhibits a disproportionate amount of deaths to occur from a single source and therefore can be stopped with decisive action enabled through restricting the specific mechanics that allow such large numbers of deaths in a single instance and the other is just a regular part of day to day life that is all but inevitable|0 It makes me so angry and sad that we have flocks of people being fed this misinformation People who are gullible and who dont realize that they are getting truly false information Its dangerous And I know with freedom of speech its hard to police these sources but damn do I wish we had some way to weed out these manipulative bastards For everyones sake|0 Okay Im going to ignore the hyperbole and just go through facts 1 The economy going bad would result first in everyone losing their pensions then their savings then the banks would collapse and at that point money becomes worthless The country then operates on a barter system where you swap your loaf of bread and goat for a packet of antibiotics Those without anything worth trading would resort to taking by force and you end up living in a post apocalyptic video game 2 The government is taking action Last week they announced sick pay from day one drive through testing facilities have been put in place over the last few days The public have been advised that quarantine is likely in 2 weeks so that people have time to prepare ultimately this isnt a scenario that comes around very often3 I was waiting for The Tories card to be played Labour bailed out the banks not the Tories Again unless you wanted a barter system it was necessary 4 Brexit was a cross party issue neither Cameron nor May wanted Brexit and government funds were used to pay for Remain advertising LeaveBrexit funding had to be raised In terms of Brexit itself yes the government had to spend money on arranging Brexit because people voted for it and its happening Is there an option to have Brexit without spending money on it Well potentially yes but without research into laws drafting new ones and negotiations with trading partners itd be pretty disastrous Also if there hadnt been three years of obstructing Brexit it would have cost a lot less 5 The economy being sacrificed is more sensationalism unless you are psychic The economy has started recovery since Brexit because we have stability again As for how it will turn out in the long term again none of us are psychic 6 We arent quarantined yet Theres no need to announce financial plans for quarantining the country as its not a definite yet Italy is quarantined therefore arrangements are in place There will be financial measures when the time comes 7 The government doesnt have money Its money is generated through tax so if you want free food your full wages paid no mortgage payments and your own unicorn then itll be paid for by the taxpayer Theres no such thing as free Again there will be financial plans Taxing the rich wont achieve anything what are they going to do send bills to the rich without any laws backing that up and expect them to cough up literally in 7 days so preparations can be completed in 14 It doesnt work that way 8 The Tories It doesnt matter who is running the county there is no way to prepare for a pandemic Its like having a go at the Thai or Japanese government when the tsunamis hit them You think Corbyn Sturgeon or that crazy woman from the LibDems would be prepared for this Of course they wouldnt This isnt about how people voted this is an extreme event that hasnt been seen on this scale in hundreds of years But you keep ranting at clouds if it makes you feel better|1 Its not money its supply chain Like most modern countries were overly dependent on trade Most public things operate on open contracts where lowest price is the most important factor as it should be Guess where most of those supplies comes from China Other European countries have decided to break trade agreements and stop exporting supplies during this outbreak which makes it worseIm not too worried about us being able to produce hand sanitation lotion or masks ourselves but like many things in hindsight you wish there was more preparation Still pretty happy about how theyre handling this after a bit of a slow startedit rich af I dont know were bred into moderation being a good thing but the average person has a good life|1 Yeah you might run into problems with deterioration due to repeated thermal cycling and possibly even low temperature solder getting affected We all remember the issues the xbox360 had with the red ring of death|0 All of these press conference photos have people standing so damn close together This is probably a sign of whats to come everywhere within a few weeks or less|0 I have been tweeting a great deal markdpace|1 You wouldnt believe the amount of people under 25 taking this seriously in fucking January Yet many older people still refuse to take it seriously Im doing my part and so are many others my age but its frustrating that we are the ones taking more serious measures when the people most affected older people refuse to even acknowledge the threat until it blows up in their face and then they still want to decry the youth|0 Here from Tucson AZ Our state saids we have two cases with one of those recovered Both from Phoenix about two hrs away from us I have an auto immune disease and take meds to lower my immune systemNeedless to say Im terrified I dont leave my house really because of my health I have a kid and a husband that are still going to workschool I wish theyd be honest People are already a bit scared Im not sure containing it is even an option anymore|0 Yes They wrote themselves the checks pared down their staffing to below minimum and didnt give raises and paid the loans back with interest|1 Thank you Been waiting for a PA one to turn up|1 Of course all travel bans no matter the reason are all identical Idiot|0 So so many think its fake news An excuse for the markets to drop Nothing else better to report CCP trying to kill its own people we have nothing to west about People are so so tired of rubbish that headline news doesnt bat anyones eyelids anymore|0 The Imperial study you call a damning report was done by the same government science team that created the original plan This new report with the new recommendation is based on the same modelling but with new data from Italy showing the need for ICU treatment to be double what was previously expected This changed the forecast so they had to change the plan|1 I think that they believe that the genie is already out of the bottle and that the next step is to detect the outbreaks and stomp on them So not much point killing off global trade because doing that will not stop it either|1 Happy cakeday|1 I guess Ill die|0 Im so sorry Thats a really icky experience to have with your doc But do NOT skip your next appointments they are the most crucial Shit happens yes even this late in and you want it caught ASAP|0 I thought Washington had mandatory sick leave Is it just Oregon|0 I knew some expats who worked on a construction site in Iran prior to the revolution On market day once a week the wives of the workers would be driven into town to shop The vehicle was a multi seat van and the driver an employee of the construction company As they left the compound the driver would stop at the small mosque erected near the gate drop a coin in the donation box and say a prayer From then on throughout the journey all were in the hands of AliShould an accident happen the driver was preabsolved of any responsibility They seem to have it reversed to the catholic faith where first you first commit the sin then you atone Muslims paying it forward Seems to me that over time a subcult of irresponsibility would grow out of the main body See it now reinforced by zealots who state unequivocally they speak for others who are no longer present Anybody else yearn for the days when do as I do not do as I say was the way of the world|0 Hospital needs n95 I think he is donating surgical masks and I think USA will only use kits made here so not so sure whats the point for that Perhaps ppe instead of test kits|0 Bingo Give this guy a medal |1 havent gone through puberty yet Lack of certain hormones in the body that the virus needs to develop properly|0 Keep calm and stay in confinement|1 When did I say Im only talking about Beijing Go read stop calling anything fake news just because you arent educated on it|0 That makes sense as they continue to refer to this disease as a pneumonia in China even though pneumonia is just the more severe symptom of it|0 Every country is moving in slow motionRedditorsYall have no understanding of how the economy worksYou cant just shut everything down when the media gets all hyped up over a virus|0 Here are the numbers for other countries as a point of comparison httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscovid19testingAlberta and BC are on par with most western European countriesNew Brunswick is somewhere between Vietnam and Turkey and much lower than the notoriously bad testing in the US|0 Well if they put it all out it would go in one day This way they have it each day coaxing customers in to their shop because of the toilet roll where they will inevitably buy other products|1 Youre fine said local area nurse who thinks its just like the flu and we should all get back in class ASAP|1 The diamond princess is 85 I think that is a realistic number provided health services are readily available Certainly will end up higher in Italy Singapoer is the shit locked down early and have held to 178 cases and no deaths Really makes me wonder about the heat and humidity factor|1 Banned but how is the enforcement They started to ban since the SARS outbreak but the efficacy of such ban is utter jokes Unless the commis set a record for life imprisoned now that we start to look into the seriousness of such ban|0 There are a lot of therapeutic drugs being examined This is one of many but it is not proven If it works we will need to make sure the finite supplies are held for the patients who need it most We have a study going on to figure this out We also have a screening effort to look at all the ideas for TherapeuticshttpswwwgatesfoundationorgTheOptimistArticlescoronavirusmarksuzmantherapeutics because the number being proposed is very large and only the most promising should be tried in patients China was testing some things but now they have so few cases that that testing needs to move to other locations|1 Hes speaking a certain level of truth because hes not in government anymore theres no agenda|1 Omg imagine keeping up with the updates and youre just like damn this guy must be my doppelgnger or something hes been everywhere Ive oh shit|0 If you take him literally yeah its unsettling If you view it as Dems saying hes doing nothing after they said hes done too much and calling their views on lack of action a hoax its more reasonable Regardless its a stupid choice of wordsHe didnt reinstate it as it expired The ebola epidemics on its way out zikas run its course and the head of that team felt confident to leave on his own terms Terrible timing for sure This may fizzle out too or hopefully actually peak out in the spring but theres no reason to assume it will Edit reading more up on it I dont want to make unfounded claims or take your or current news at its word just yetEdit 2 Article about Zeimers departurehttpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180510topwhitehouseofficialinchargeofpandemicresponseexitsabruptly states he left but apparently out of constructive dismissal Not exactly fired but not exactly looking at a lot of job security Not the head of the ebola strike team but the CDC has stated they have had adequate resources without that team in todays hearing at least|1 Welcome to America|1 Were at the stage of the virus exponential growth where each new case per day predicts a new death per day one month later mostly due to exponential growth of infectionsIf youre going to decide that someone else has to die so you dont miss a few bills then honestly fuck you|0 I know the testing kits are being delivered to area hospitals today Not many though I know the West Penn Hospital System send out an interoffice email today about two patients they have seen with positive Corona symptoms|1 People dont understand exponential growth and the damage it will cause to our healthcare system|0 Theres a district that has gone online and is sending out meals on buses They have a pretty low percentage of kids on free and reduced lunch but it can probably be done on a wider scale too|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable 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One of the guys in my work group took a vacation to Paris last fucking week and just returned yesterday He totally has a CovidCough I just showed a bunch of guys at my work the videos of the Diamond Princess couple so they could see what The Cough sounds like and the Iranian Deputy Health Minister I really would have like to think Id make it at least a few months before catching it|1 I believe I said this would age like milk|1 Our procedure is that we can only do that if the customer is selfisolating Otherwise we do whatever the customer wants which includes going into the house and unpacking for themPersonally I would like a blanket ban on drivers entering customers homes except when the customer is physically unable to carry their shopping into the house|0 This may be quite morbid but at what scale of deaths vs recovered is it considered statistically reliable for determining fatality rate|0 Thats a very small portion dying under 60 If someone under 60 is super afraid of dying they can make an individual choice to quarantine themselves If we quarantine the older folks the hospitals would not be over run and we wouldnt crash our entire economy|1 Its like people forget that you can have it and be contagious for TWO WEEKS before showing symptoms|0 Yep|1 Smart Prime Minister protecting its people|1 Thank you for this post There has been this type of talk before but you grabbed all the points that I wished everyone saw and focused on Someone else on here compared this to the pond with tadpoles increasing everyday by 23 etc By a certain amount of days the pond fills up exponentially and is only noticable after certain amount of days Everything seems fine until its not|1 People like to rail on the Chinese government Believe me your government will cover up their BS just as much They are all corrupt as hell|0 When i look at the chart what i see is that SARS and swine flu is more linear and this one is more exponential That is scary|0 Here the medias in America and Europe said coronavirus is just a flu you dont need to wear mask dont need to stop gathering just wash your hands|0 the more harm than good is nothing to do with health reasons Its to do with political and economic reasons which is none of the WHOs concern Politics and economic is none of the WHOs business They are a health organization They should stick to health and let the politicians deal with politics|0 Definitely but we can be more effective on a local level|1 Why arent they required to abide by the testing criteria bullshit that everyone else is|0 Do you have evidence that people are insanely contagious before developing symptoms I dont understand how they transmit the infection if they arent coughing and sneezing|0 Best to place your bet on infecting more others A problem one gets wo fault and where the impact will be felt most likely by others down the road has no market solution This is a common interest issue and it needs to be tackled as one|1 bUt iTs jUsT tHe FlU guise|0 I just found that GPU folding is not currently supported in OSX linkhttpsfoldingathomeorgsupportfaqinstallationguidesmacrequirements|0 So youre saying theres a chance|1 I personally am avoiding nonessential travel into public at all because there is a strong possibility that I have Covid19 right now and I live in a town with an international airport I am able to work from home though so its not much of an issue for me Keep in mind that America seems to be taking a reactive approach instead of proactive and most of the country isnt testing much of anybody except older severe cases Just because it doesnt seem like its everywhere yet it probably is to some degree I find it extremely hard to believe that there are only 2 cases in Clark County when Vegas is an international hot spot If I were you Id just take advantage of cheap ticket prices right now for a future trip Book your hotel and stuff for October or November maybe Id still get cancellation insurance though lol There are just so many unknowns with community spread right now If you do go now Id definitely skip the slot machines haha|1 The problem is the word Trump|0 Election already in peril due to virus Democratic primaries being delayed in many states|0 Agreed its not a good outlook no matter how you change the numbers|1 Thats correct Every hospital is different though At my place we dont have any systemic protocol in place to seek out information that might help identify someone at high risk for having COVID19 However were a small rural hospital and the likelihood that any of our patients would have the virus is very low at this point in timeThat being said if I personally came across a patient with pneumonia and it wasnt responding to antibiotics Id probably start asking questions Especially if it was a younger patient who wouldnt usually be in the hospital with pneumoniaI suspect many or even most docs would do the same|0 Impact yes and uncontrolled spread under near perfect conditions|1 Yes Or at least I would begin to take off my shoes untill you told me directly not to No spot for shoes by the door and the host walked in with their shoes on Better not risk it and take mine off just to be safe|1 I cant imagine theyll get a warm reception back in Moscow either|1 Comment history is pretty antiChina dude you are confused|1 He is beyond narcissic But this time it might really hurt him|0 Good grief Are you familiar with the term inverse snobbery|0 Ill take the other side I am also a STEM professional with a graduate degree but prefer less heavy handed mods Why do you feel the need to have mods block things you dont like Note this is NOT a defense of alternative meds just a defense of letting people say what they have to say and not counting nameless mods to protect us from bad ideas|0 Were a told so Today was a bad day The numbers are brutal Believe me things keep going badly here|0 Based on the most recent numbers published by the WHO the mortality rate right now is just over 36 4365 deaths out of 126380 cases 36675I havent been able to find worldwide mortality rates for the flu but in the US its right around 01 That means the coronavirus is 36 times deadlier than the flu However keep in mind that the estimates for the fatality rate have been climbing ever since the outbreak first started Initial reports were 2 which climbed to 25 3 just last week it was reported at 34 Now its already nearing 37While it is true that the elderly population is far more likely to experience complications from the coronavirus and far more likely to pass from it that does not mean younger and healthy individuals should not worry Even if your body would handle the coronavirus without any problems it is the potential to spread the virus to others that you should still be worried aboutJust because your body may be ready to handle it does not mean that those you come into contact with are in the same position Whether its family members or just strangers on the street your spreading the disease to them could potentially be a death sentence to them if they are older have preexisting conditions or are compromised in some capacity whether because of a disease or medicationTake it seriously Theres a reason why so many deaths were reported out of a Washington nursing home Once it reached there it spread like wildfire amongst its patients Imagine if those were your family members in there You would be devastated Its not just about keeping you safe and healthy Its also about preventing others from getting sick too|0 Not necessarily no This is discussed in the study Higher concentrations can be less effective|1 I feel most didnt watch the video Its way worse In places where theyve been ordered to close gameatop has told managers to stay open If poloce come and tell them to close theyve been told to stay open and refer thwm to their legal department Like wtf Theyre going against government orders|0 The link to the Lancet paper I referenced is working fine but if youre still having problems heres the relevant paragraph in the summary of findingsWe report here a cohort of 41 patients with laboratoryconfirmed 2019nCoV infection Patients had serious sometimes fatal pneumonia and were admitted to the designated hospital in Wuhan China by Jan 2 2020 Clinical presentations greatly resemble SARSCoV Patients with severe illness developed ARDS and required ICU admission and oxygen therapy The time between hospital admission and ARDS was as short as 2 days At this stage the mortality rate is high for 2019nCoV because six 15 of 41 patients in this cohort died|0 But yet on Tuesday when the totals are 20k we will all be doing shocked picachu face and gasping at this breaking news|0 we dont want to stop it from spreading|1 Yep just confirmed 3 new cases in our state if you had not seen it yethttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNUOEri3y0httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNUOEri3y0|1 US Cant have the number of infections increase if the number of testings dont increase Right|1 People are getting into fistfights over canned food at Costco Its not crazy to want some powerful selfdefence tools in your home right now|1 Well in Czech Republic people are allowed to go outside BUT they can only go out in times when there arent a lot of people outside around 6 AM or 9 PMPeople still can get out as long as they dont interact with other people|1 I bet they are but the health care professionals are the ones who need masks|1 too soon for research so why are you suggesting he puts in on there as fact you are part of the problem this needs to stop|0 But because it only happened to Americans that his base inherently dont care aboutBecause it happened to brown people who speak Spanish Almost half of Americans dont know that Puerto Ricans are US citizens according to a new poll by Morning Consult and reported by the New York Times httpswwwusnewscomnewsnationalnewsarticles20170926almosthalfofamericansdontknowpuertoricansareuscitizenspoll|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or postsYour post has been removed Keep posts on topic In general we dont need new posts that are jokes memes shitposts or other unhelpful and unrelated comments We may also remove low quality YouTube or social media commentary|0 Your eskimo example makes no sense How did the virus just happen to infect so few smokers|0 Mar 4 2020 Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as available weapons to fight COVID19httpsdoiorg101016jijantimicag2020105932httpsdoiorg101016jijantimicag2020105932Also look into the Chinese Clinical Trial Registry for current studies numbered more than 300 on COVID19|0 Im in supply chain logistics too How is your inventory of sanitizer and cleaning products holding up Weve heard Ecolab is hurting|0 Not just with covid stuffSearch the following terms on Google with the word reddit afterwards cocaine ecstasy meth heroin opiatesNotice how the first two search terms have many many pages to reddit The third has like five or so The last two have one each Now search on duckduckgo|1 Almost If he carries on as he is it will be complete pretty soon|1 It being in major cities which it is is the problem Spread in rural areas will be slower so easier to manage regarding bed availability supplies tests etc My opinion is bold action in those areas right away would do the most for smoothing the curveEdit sp|1 The price of free healthcare Imagine having the unlimited personal funds to afford private healthcare in Canada no more waiting 810 hours for a doctor at the emergency if you really have one|0 I live in St Pete and travel to Tampa on the daily for work right by the airport Hoping it doesnt start spreading here anymore|1 Ive been getting calls and messages from UofU health telling me to call in for any coronavirus symptoms I can say that at least for salt lake area people are handing things very well|1 Every true patriot does|1 Thank you for posting to 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Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Why stock up on food Even in italy and wuhan food was never in shortage Yes there is panic buying at the initial outbreak but once strict isolation measures come in the supermarkets have a chance to restock order is restored Only potential benifit I see is if you were in isolation and only allowed out to shop once a week and a particular item was out of stock Dont get me wrong I panic bought 4 weeks worth of food a month back but Im starting to question if it was an over reaction|0 If your cough is that bad then you def need to be talking to a doctor even if its neg I have seasonal allergies which is a pretty mild version of the the symptoms Im staying inside for a couple weeks regardless though so dont even care to be tested|0 Your premise is sound It can be done HOWEVER we are dealing with humans who at time of great stress and disorder may fall into less than savory actions When rations become valuable commodities you can bet your last dollar there will be those who will do what it takes to relieve it from you|1 china never admitted this was wrong or apologizedIt wasnt wrong and needs no apology Everyone should have done that and then perhaps H1N1 wouldnt have killed 600 000 people and became endemic|0 Word never trusted the US and thats fineBut they will always need us|0 There will be no vaccine Not ever Dont believe the hype|0 N95N95s usually have a one way air valve on them That valve lets the air you breathe OUT to leave unfiltered Why are you telling sick people to wear these masks instead of healthy people|0 Does Rosettahome give you random projects Is there a way to prioritize covid19 related projects Ive set up my PC to help but I dont know what Im helping with|1 I dont even like Trump and I think you are 100 correct We should stop reasoning by political teams and look at the facts|0 Obviously its not really something that anyone can probably quantify which country is being dumbest well if you base it on the curfewbreaking or the number of large events still taking place or drivethru testing facilities available or banks waiving mortgages for x many months or and not to get into a pissing contest but Id say probably most countries are being just as dumb but in different ways Humans gonna human Is the US being dumber than China Or the UK Is Canada or Denmark just altogether better at being countries probably yes|0 Please strike him for me|1 That doesnt make it any betterIts a miracle India hasnt created a plague by now tbh|1 Will they get an invite to the Federation once they are warp capable then|1 Keep it upyour doing good|1 Ok loser|0 Alright time for you to be controlled uh I mean contained in quarantine|1 With those odds Ill take a dozen|0 Actually I heard a doctor in news say a mask will prevent you from touching your face and is a help in that wayEdit I think the doctor I heard meant that it served as a reminder to not touch your face If you wear a mask and are constantly touching it you are contaminating it with your fingers|1 Just like reddit|1 Thank youFor such a positive attitude with everything you are going through|1 AllahGod bless Finally |1 This all makes me glad i live in a small college town that told all students to go home if they can about a week ago Its like off season here everything is deserted|1 Edit this some badass story when he grows up Wanna know the first thing I ever did I kicked coronavirus ass thats what|0 Thats not a bad idea tbh|1 If a city is quarantined does that just mean you cant leave the city Or does it mean that you cant leave your house This might be a dumb question but I just need some clarification on this|0 I am on candesartan for migraine prevention and I have a slightly higher blood pressure than normal not the reason Im on the medication though Would I still be at risk|0 If you think Biden is the same as Trump youve lost your fucking mind|0 Asses after 12 daysNow this is how you get people excited about a lockdown|1 Dumb fucks|0 If this incompetence is any indication of the governments ability to respond to this emergency imagine what it is going to be like in a few months if this is a devastating as it has the potential to be If there is quarantine like China the food supply will be hard pressed to be resupplied If the local stores start running out of food the government wont be able to help or if they do it will be too little too lateI really hope this is not the casehttpstheweekcomspeedreads900488chinascoronavirusrecoveryallfakewhistleblowersresidentsclaimhttpstheweekcomspeedreads900488chinascoronavirusrecoveryallfakewhistleblowersresidentsclaimAny truth to the above article Imports from China are going to get scarce if this is accurate|0 Gosh that sucks How long have you been sick|0 Yeah Im getting tired of this stuff Whether it works for them or it doesnt they need to put out some kind of study and settle this matter once and for all|0 It means land of free men|1 Yes As a person that lives in an area with no pokestops near me and I dont want to cross major roads to get to one 05 mile away this is great|1 Yep When you actually think about it step by step like that you realize how bad the odds are stacked Everyone who has any spirituality in your soul should be spending a good bit of the day praying Cause a literal miracle is what its gonna take to slow this down|1 Hmm I agree that paragraph didnt really come out in an ideal way I was going for something like among the reasons but really the whole paragraph is fairly useless and I probably could have done without Not sure I want to delete it now though since the post has been up for a while|1 Can obesity without any disease that obesity can causes in itself makes you more vulnerable to COVID death |0 Maybe theres something about the HQ that makes its anti viral actions in vivo delayed as its immunomodulatory effects are|0 They were banned on Amazon for this as well as some other gougers|0 Sore throat and headachetiredness But then I always have those But this feels slightly worse But is it actuallyI cant get tested either way sowhat do I do|0 Some young people died because their immune systems overreacted so basically they died because they are too healthy|0 Combination of salt and optimism Really brings out the flavor|1 I would explore if your hubby can just take vacation days if he has to Could he be fine Sure Could he potentially spread the disease to dozens if others yes If hes fine then staying home changes little if he isnt and he doesnt stay home it can be extremely damaging|1 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link add some explanatory text and add an appropriate flair If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Maybe because a democrat president didnt collude with a foreign country or committed any of the shady shit Trump has|0 Heres a quote from a Lancet published articlehttpswwwthelancetcomactionshowPdfpiiS01406736282029302609 from Jan 31 2020 To possibly succeed substantial even draconian measures that limit population mobility should be seriously and immediately considered in affected areasTaking extreme measures to limit population mobility is something that has been suggested for some time relatively speaking The fact that they waited so long should be more of a concern compared to the fact that they are implementing those policies now|1 Over 600 infected and 17 dead now|0 That article also points out that the second person who was diagnosed didnt even ask to get tested They went in for a flu test and this was then sent to be tested for COVID They were also well enough to recover at homeIt makes you think I got very ill at the end of January with a high fever cough and general aches and pains I was out of it for about a week the cough lasted at least 2 weeks more People joked that I had the virus but that idea was dismissed as ridiculous as the only place Id been recently was New York Now that idea doesnt seem so farfetched in New York I came into contact with constant crowds of people then I travelled home through 2 very busy international airports JFK and London Heathrow But I never even got myself tested for the flu How many others are like me and would never even think to get a test|0 Yeah it seems to hang around longer than expected and a few cases have been reported that seem to be people becoming reinfected but have there been actual medically documented and reported cases Ive only read about them in news articles that seemed relatively easy to dismiss|1 In 1987 I worked as a draftsman designing generators We bought our steel to make them from China I was naive and asked them why we would buy our steel from the other side of the world when we had steel making plants in Beloit Illinois right next door The purchaser said it was the price China was subsidizing the price so it was cheaper to buy it from them I wondered how that was possible remember we had no internet back then So the President and Congress were allowing a foreign power to undermine our war readiness by allowing them to sell us steel at artificially low prices|0 Its not a suggestion it definitely attaches to ACE2 receptors|0 Theres a reason for that 1218 month number its the best case scenario for the vaccineNo its not Its a reasonably conservative estimate that doesnt include relaxing of restrictions on timelines|1 Its a useful tool for homeowners with a liquidity crisis due to loss of income it gives them a breather for 3 months and usually with 20 year mortgages the accumulated interest that is spread out over the remaining term may not be so daunting once they are back on their feet The government should really have offered to subsidise income for all those in need through a simple toolmethod But alas we didnt vote for that type of government|0 There is a 310 minute delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200229 224422 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202002292022442220UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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that called you out on it you little nerd|1 China fucked up in the early stages for sure But eventually they went all out to contain the virus That bought us time which we did nothing with|0 Just saw a clip of this on BBC news Made me stop in my tracks when he said 1 in 3Thanks for posting this|0 Why so angry bruh|0 Eh Spanish flu|0 Good We dont need another overfunded officialsounding body to tell us that Coronavirus requires travel to China and masks only protect people with MDs|1 I wonder if increasing our intake of foods rich in quercetin green tea black tea onions apples etc would be effective too|1 Were you around during the 2008 crisis Banks were foreclosing on people en masse in order to generate cash flow httpswwwinvestopediacomtermsfforeclosurecrisisaspWhen the number of defaults rises banks get very sloppy with their foreclosures|0 There was another post today explaining that Chinese doctors only ever list one reason for death Of a patient surlffered from an illness such a diabetes and the Coronavirus essentially pushes them over the line the the cause could still be diabetesThis can lead to the total number being underreported|0 yea and some people are trying to convince others that wearing masks doesnt help good lord|0 Love that episode |1 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 And simply having less people using airports in general huge win|1 This virus is gonna kill the Boomers and kill the phrase Okay Boomer at the same timeEdit I am a Boomer so no baby danger for me yippee|0 You make a very good point|1 Why did it ban masks in the first place|0 Exactly that Disinfectant is your first choice for cleaning surfaces but cleaning them with soap and water is a sensible alternative On the other hand lol cleaning hands with soap and water is your first choice while hand sanitizers are useful only when you cant wash hands normally|1 But were literally seeing the potential devastating effects of this in italy and China Its literal reality right now and there have been everyday people crying out about how bad it can get|0 Holy shit you dense moron stop treading water in a losing issue to make yourself feel better about being incorrectI know 2 chinese people in the middle of texas going to college Both of which went back to China over the holiday break december early jan Know how many nonchinese people that traveled back to China over holiday breakUnlike many Italian restaurants outside of the northeastern US Chinese restaurants are typically family owned by 1st and 2nd generation Chinese people Most Italians landed here long ago whereas Chinese immigrants are currently taking advantage of EB5 and other investment visas by opening restaurants and other small businesses|0 Almost every hospital barely handles flu season and we have a treatment for that and we have a vaccineThis spreads more readily and is more deadly than the flu|0 Im a stripper not kidding and I meet people from all over the world on a frequent basis Im young so if I got it it wouldnt be the end of the world likely however my stepdad is terminally ill My mother is leaving the country on Friday and Im freaking the hell out she will be stuck somewhere or get sick I just dont know anymore|0 Korea tested 250k people with symptoms 96 tested negative A huge waste of test resources|0 rwallstreetbets is full of autistsTheyre now clinging on to rChinaFlu grasping for any info they can manage to find so they can make a decision that in all likelihood loses them money Thats at least 90 of themThe other 10 will make money because theyre not an autist theyre a downieFinding the downie among all of the autists is difficult without being able to see their face This blesses rwallstreetbets with anonymity sometimes an autist pretends to be a downie by posting altered pics of their gains but in reality theyre masquerading as a downie Theyll always be an autist|1 Currently owns about 14 of global stocks and shares as well as several high value properties including large chunks of LondonhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGovernmentPensionFundofNorwayhttpswwwnbimnocontentassetse16eb87c37294c0fabcca82951f89ac0realestateinvestments2017governmentpensionfundglobalpdf|1 According to this 2010 study the figure 54 is only for male while for female the percentage is 34In 2018httpswwwxinhuanetcomenglish20190531c138106470htm smoking rates for male and female are 505 and 21 respectively The overall smoking rate is 266 aged 15|1 Me too Would you have any recourse though I dont know I suspect we will eventually find out though|1 And decreased lung capacity damage for life|0 I just beat the final bioweapon level it was so hard|0 Totally agree they went from 160s to 327 in one day or so They have community spreading meanwhile we have mostly contained the virusBC has its first unknown origin And Toronto has 1 person that can back from Vegas|1 Im glad i went to galaxys edge befote anything happened It sucks this is happening worldwide horrible virus|0 I have no problem with being used so long as informed consent is given under a reservation of rights and a release of no liability is signed One of the most fascinating parts of pandemics is the legal framework necessary to prevent harm to drug manufacturers|0 Its almost as if us in Scandinavia pay abit more in taxes in order to have a proper security net for when shit hits the fan Nothing like a proper economic crisis for people to realize the benefits of a strong state with good welfare programs|1 Case in Coventry of you can add to the map please thanks httpswwwcoventrytelegraphnetnewscoventrynewslivefirstcoronaviruscovid1917882557|1 I read that nCoV is too infectious and simultaneously not deadly enough to be a bioweapon ie its likely to give your targets just the sniffles while biting you in the ass by killing your grandmother|0 Thanks for that|1 No I dont think thats typically the way its calculated I typically see two rates published1 Hospitalized mortality rate deaths hospitalized cases2 Infection mortality rate deaths infectionsWhile 1 is easier to confirm 2 is really only an estimate For Covid19 you could calculate deaths confirmed infections but as you mentioned above this probably overstates the mortality since we suspect there to be many unconfirmed casesHeres a CDC link with more of the overall annual flu estimateshttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtml|0 The 15 death rate is because 1020 of patients require a ventilator If the ventilators are all taken those patients die This is the situation Italy is currently in and where Wuhan was recently six weeks ago Ive lost track Worstcase scenario is that they remain in this disastrous situation for months and lots of people dieIf you have enough ventilators for every patient the true death rate is between 15|0 This crash scares me so much my inlaws and parents all have lung issues and other underlying medical conditions HBP diabetes etc I pretty much expect all of them to get it at some point and at least one of them to die Its just a numbers game right now Have to hope that if they do get it that it will be down the road when the peak is overNot to be a Debbie Downer but Wuhan and Italy is like looking into the future especially here in WA state|1 I imagine its a bell curve like anything else Many people wont react until they see it first hand or know somebody who it affects The same proportion probably self isolated long before it was a trend|1 SARS came from bats Sure you can get diseases from different animals but some animals are much more diseased than others and generally should be avoided Thats not a super hard concept to grasp|0 Im suggesting having a compromised immune system from a virus can easily lead to hospitalacquired pneumonia There are 2 medical workers a tech and a physician towards the bottom of this thread that dont even think he had pneumonia based on the imagery|1 Yeah I am a landlord and my mortgage is 800 on that house I rent it for 800 so every year I lose money with repairs etc but at least they are paying down the mortgageIn other words Im all for this as long as my mortgage is frozen otherwise I unfortunately cannot just front 800 dollars a month to my tenants I am a school teacher not some landlord millionaire I only rent the house because I couldnt sell it|0 I dont know how true it is but someone purportedly an expert had a stickied thread that explained how among other things Chinas medical system only lists one cause of death As a result things like the flu or the coronavirus dont usually appear on medical records|0 Note this is for the flu virus not Corona specifically If anyone has ideas on why this doesnt translate Id love to knowA virus like the flu spreads when people sneeze and spray aerosolized droplets of gunk and virus into the air Humidity affects how long those droplets hang out where other humans can breathe them in and how well the virus can survive inside the droplet FivethirtyeighthttpsfivethirtyeightcomfeaturesflucomesbackeveryyearwillcoronavirusAt humidity levels of 23 percent 70 to 77 percent of the flu virus particles were still able to cause an infection an hour after the coughing simulation But when humidity levels were raised to 43 percent just 14 percent of the virus particles had the ability to infect Most of the flu particles became inactive 15 minutes after they were released into the humid air The virus just falls apart at high humidity levels said study researcher John Noti of the CDCs National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health Livesciencehttpswwwlivesciencecom27533flutransmissionhumidityhtml|0 Manitoba has recorded its first presumptive case of COVID19 the province announced this morning The patient is a woman in her 40s who lives in the Winnipeg health region She had recently visited the Philippines The woman is in isolation at home in stable condition health officials said|0 Right on well once the workers get a coronacation I guess its the end of the world|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 I made a reasonable criticism of the way Trump spun the truth about the coronavirus to the American people Im not at all confused I sat there and listened to him lie with my own ears That doesnt really translate to I have no hope Not sure what you are taking issue with exactly Its not like I dreamt it He lied Ok have a good nightday|1 most likely bigger than Trumps if not by a large marginI really dont think this is possible Trump has never admitted hes wrong about anything Trump attributes all success to himself and failure to others Trump literally says he knows more about every topic hes ever spoken about than the expertsMusk has a big ego but Id put dollars to donuts that shown proof that hes wrong hed admit it and Id put money on him not actually saying that he knows more about every topic than anyone else|1 The death rate is inaccurate More people have had it without being tested and had minimal to mild symptoms They didnt get tested Theyre not counted They lived|0 Stop projecting your own selfishness into people who are heaps and bound above you|0 Religion screwed the Koreans Italians and the Iranians At least theyll be with their God|0 My GF just show me that like an hour ago on fb Really understand and support these brave peopleCheers from Warsaw|1 The fact that this was the theme for the last years venice bienalle is kinda scary and poetic a chinese curse used as a theme for an event in italy|0 no community spread if u dont test for it|0 Sounds like being a college kid Had that for 4 years in the early 2000s|1 If its anything like flu then they are vastly overreacting And given that they would not want to throw their economy into chaos over something minor it stands to reason that this is a significant issue Judge by their actions not words|0 so i guess he is no longer supporting the idea that its a chinese hoax brought about by the democrats to make him look badhe said that the other day|0 Are the Canadians done crying yet Youll never be better than Scandinavia|0 Ive been saying this same thing The problem the government can actually do something about is the panic The virus is beyond their control though slowing it down will help with stalling the panic I am also of the opinion that every sacrifice needs to be made to keep as much of the economy going as possible If 80 are going to be fine as long as the economy holds up then the practical thing to do is just accept that we will ha e a 20 loss and deal with that as best we can Most of the losses are going to be elderly who dont contribute to the economy anymore anyway Sucks to think of it like that but a collapsed economy means starvation and many other problems for all in which case everyone still gets sick and the 20 still die but then you also lose a big chunk of the 80 as well as any control over anything|0 Absolutely Anyone who is used to prepping for harsh weather or natural disasters will be set for the year if all that we have bought does not need to be used for this virus |0 Reddit should have an award called Negative Gold where whoever give that award get 500 coins I would like to give you one for your comment|1 Good question would be interesting and urgent to know|1 Lol Ok Its just a flu please continue crowding into arenas and carrying on as usual Idiot|1 I honestly think I have it but good thing Im only 14|1 Sorry but I do have to disagree with this just a little bit where do you think all of our medicines are actually derived from PlantsI wouldnt like to assure anyone that natural remedies will definitely cure coronavirus and obviously following the doctors advice the best course of action but sambucol has been proven to be affective against many strains of fluhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed11399518It may not work and yes some natural remedies probably arent as affective but it doesnt hurt to try them|1 Nice to have no leadership in the US during a time like this|1 So If i rim some chick do i risk getting infected|0 Currently watching my neighbors who by the way sent their 7yearold over to my house yesterday looking for my kids with a nose running faster than Usain Bolt stand around in their driveway with no less than 15 people Same morons posting on Facebook how awesome it is to get a table so quickly everywhere in town|1 Better mortality rates got me confused gor a moment there though|1 Is this a joke Its not even that the Chinese created the test but Germans This is the most blatant attempt to exploit a disaster situation Ive ever seen Do they need a made in America label in order to feel better about their little brains Holy shit if I was American I would be fucking scared to death before Corona|0 As Jim Cramer says Any time a president or CFO steps down suddenly SELL SELL SELL almost always a sign of a scandal Multiple in the same day though is weird af|0 No SARS or MERS and no common cold vaccine Im a little confused why people think there will definitely be a vaccine for a set of viruses that dont seem to be conducive to themI dont know enough about it but someone with insight into developing vaccines would be good its just based on basic understanding of other coronaviruses I dont see why Id assume a vaccine would come around soon without a break through in a new technique|1 Can this be prebrexit uk please|1 Its reassuring|1 This was targeted at their entire work force regardless of employment duration Id say its fairly good as an emergency plan They literally didnt have to do anything|1 I was just told I have to work tomorrow I do indoor construction make very little cash and zero paid sick days and benefits Im pretty nervous and honestly resentful of my employer Theyre restricting groups of 50 at gatherings like theatres and restaurants yet I can go to a job site and work on top of 100 other tradespeople|1 Im resigned to catching it My job exposes me constantly My lungs arent the greatest but hopefully Ill be fine|0 Bat shit actually is Called something like night brightness gravel and used to treat eye problems Cause bat can navigate in the dark must because they have special shit up in their ass|0 Dont know how your school will handle it but there will be a general closure of the dormshalls but there will be a significant number of people that will be allowed to stay schools are not kicking everyone out especially if they dont have anywhere to go like international students or those without appropriate family housing schools will not make people homeless they just want to empty the halls as much as possible|1 Good information Watch the press conference with Dr Bruce Aylward You will be happy to hear China did the best they could much better than any other medical system could to minimize the spread to the rest of global population httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo0q1XMRKYM|1 Seriously Comparing sex workers to hitler Prostitution isnt genocide|0 My goodness This is awful I wish I was wrong|0 China has more people under quarantine than the entire US population combined thats including babys toddlers and children Its inconceivable until its conceivable Wuhan alone where the outbreak started has over 11 million people Los Angeles has 4|0 Citizen notice failure to cooperate will result in permanent offworld relocation|0 Perhaps you are new to this sayingNo good deed goes unpunished|1 They donated thousands to SKorea as well last week|1 This reminds me when people are comparing cows to sharks because cows kills more people each year than sharks So it means cows are these deadly dangerous monsters while sharks are cute pokemons|0 How to increase your viral load 101|1 Pretty sure you cant get infected through your skin|1 Except this particular year the flu has already mutated and is not covered by the flu vaccineI received the vaccine this yearI was diagnosed with influenza A this week|0 Love the mask choices|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Put praise is a lot cheaper|1 Smart Im so fucked|0 I support this|1 Private landlords should not exist housing is a human right it shouldnt be left to the market Absolutely it is exploitation those with capital profit by renting to those without who must work for the landlord in effect|1 Also thank you I have nothing else to do here at home so I thought I would practice being a reporter|1 The third option is that its impossible to increase supply at such a speed to be able to cover every Tom Dick Harry buying masks and using them just in case If everyone were to go out and try to buy masks it would result in dangerous shortages of masks for critically essential tasks such as protecting patients from sepsis during urgent lifesaving surgery and protecting medical staff dealing with infectious cases|0 Im posting here cuz this stupid subreddit wont let me start my own thread But wanted to pitch in and extend on what the OP said I THINK I have it too Im about 99 sure I do have it actually At first I wasnt too sure I mean honestly I feel fine atm no fever For the last few days I had minor and I mean very minor breathing restrictions Felt like I wasnt getting all the air when I breathed in Also been having these tiny little aches in my chest close to the heart but I think its the lungs just the left one though if it is the lungs Theres a strong 1 of my uncertainty that I have this virus still on the fence But this feeling I have in the chest is nothing I ever had Earlier today I started to have a runny nose didnt last long I had a soar throat but that went away pretty quickly I feel like I could run for a few miles even Im pretty active and work out a lot including cardio I eat a lot of leafy greens When i feel like a cold is coming I pretty much snuff it out within that day Im 30 just giving you an idea Idk though maybe this thing is still in its early stages Hurts a little to breathe in I feel like I can go to work I have the energy and feel just fine But I dont want to get people sick Especially since a lot of coworkers are older But idk what else to say I need to pay the bills I think imma swing over to the ER room anyways and ask for some testing I can afford to not work for more than a years time but I dont want to pay medical debt Imma call ER even though theyll blow me off anyways since my symptoms arent serious|1 You did what you thought was necessary to protect your family Nothing wrong with that Short term pain long term gain|1 Schools they have to come up with contingencies for feeding kids Many families rely on the public education system for 2 meals a day Once those issues are solved for Im sure more and more schools will close|1 This has been the tough part of any pandemic It takes forever to learn about it and get true numbers You have plenty of 20 year olds walking around who have it and are just fine I saw the one guy for The Utah Jazz who tested positive hasnt even had a sniffle or anything He literally said its like he has no idea he has it|1 A vent costs about 50k There is a good reason it costs so much It isnt an easy piece if equipment to hack You also need people to run them that have a clue what they are doing Ill give you a hint In the US unless youre a pulmonologist or anesthesiologist you really want an RT managing you Otherwise it will literally be torture All of these happen to be in short supply I appreciate the gumption but I would rather die than be hooked up to some random 3d printed device If you understood the effects I suspect you would agree|0 Well trying to steal Germany talent looks bad on the world stage Especially when he wanted it just for Americans Dude Id buy a couple of those test if that happened and find someone in Italy andor Germany to mail it to Not reacting to the virus quick enough firing the head of the cdc The dudes just not prepared This is the USA not mar a lago damn it|0 She goes to the doctor for everything So she went to the doctor thinking she has a cold but she was worried about a possible ear infection They said no ear infection go home She got worse fever remained around 101 She has a dry cough and weezing She was concerned about the weezing so she went back to the doctor about 45 days after her initial examination and they did a chest scan Gave her a script for antibiotics and steroids and sent her on her way I checked with her today and she says her cough is slightly better and shes feeling a bit better so hopefully she stays on track I just feel like if I was her doc then Id want to test her|1 People are severely underestimating the potential scale of the coronavirus outbreak in Japan because of Japans past reputation as a master in disaster response But Japans response as of now is terribly inadequate despite being in equal or greater risk than South Korea Just check out the tweetshttpstwittercomppsh411945status1231401540323119105 on Japanese twitter which are full of Japanese people enraged at their governments incompetent responseNumber of new coronavirus tests Korea 16000 or more Japan About 800 The Japanese government will not prevent the spread of new pneumonia In addition Abe has been spending time on dinners without opening a new Corona Task Force in recent daysIn fact the Japanese Environment minister skipped a meeting concerning the virus outbreakhttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200220nationalpoliticsdiplomacyshinjirokoizumicovid19XlIpCgzZhE to attend new year party held by a group of his supporters in his hometown|0 It went from I cant believe they are censoring this so badly Are people really this blind to what is going on to Fuck everyone else dont deplete resources by telling people what to buy and where They are on their own nowAnd that is what you get for being a fucking pleb with no ability to think for yourself I will still try to help where I can but I agree that our responsibility to everyone else has ended|0 bruh have you tried saying positive things about china on reddit in general Reddit is definitely not pro china as a community But I can see why people wouldnt want to bash a country that took draconian measures to control a virus while italians held street parties to celebrate work and class cancellations|1 Im not a democrat buddyBut sure lets just not learn any lessons from this or point out any policy failuresIf you dont like it you can leave lmao Amazing|1 Its not pervasive yet because people are making a big deal out of it This virus has the potential to send 15191 of its infected to the hospital and spreads faster than the flu Just the city of phoenix being fully infected would saturate all available hospital beds 256000 beds for 16M infected individuals31httpswwwpix11comnewscoronavirusgovcuomogivesupdateascovid19casesrisehttpswwwpix11comnewscoronavirusgovcuomogivesupdateascovid19casesrise2httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed32097725httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed320977253 httpswwwhealthaffairsorgpbassetsdocumentsblogblogexhibit20200317jha11584462367887pdfhttpswwwhealthaffairsorgpbassetsdocumentsblogblogexhibit20200317jha11584462367887pdf|0 Fear is making you embrace totalitarianism Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety Benjamin Franklin|1 Oh 100 thats a huge issue Not to mention the amount of smokers there are in China|1 CDC projection 70150M infected|0 Whats this about the charging for the test in the US As if that will encourage people to test themselves|1 In that context norepinephrine et al are used to treat hypotension due to shock Those drugs are administered intravenously and are used to shrink blood vessels as well as make the heart beat faster and harder Epinephrine inhaled OTC primatene inhaler has direct action on the smooth muscles in the bronchioles which dilates the airways so that a person can breathe more easily Ideally someone having an asthma attack would use an albuterol inhaler which is more effective and safer than epinephrine In shock as well as bronchoconstrictionasthma attack corticosteroids are added to counteract the effects of the immune signalinginflammatory cascade But since immune function is vital to the bodys response to viral infection it seems corticosteroids may do as much harm as good I hope that helpsSource pharmacist|1 For everyone too lazy to click on a link At a time when the coronavirus epidemic that started at the end of December in China continues to spread virologists are trying to better understand the virus and its effects on infected people In many cases of infections people develop antibodies that give them immunity when the same antigen bacteria virus etc appears again However in the case of the new 2019nCoV coronavirus virologists warn that infected people who have recovered may not have developed this immunity as the antibodies do not persist long enough in the body|0 Im pretty pissed at the CDC right now So 4|0 Id like an explanation as to what exactly you found funny about this|1 pretty sure she also has a MD|1 I like your username Hope it comes true And toss in his entire family and Pence while youre at it|1 Thats actually reassuring|1 Agreed My state has declared a state of emergency and closed all schools restaurants bars gyms etcBut of course I still have to go to an office of 200 people every day because thats fine|1 Wu Tang Strain aint nothin to fuck wid|1 No one should have to worry about paying rent buying groceries or additional childcare because of COVID19 Trudeau said We will help Canadians financiallyThe government of Canada will be introducing significant fiscal stimulus packages in the days ahead|0 People who already get fucked by insurance will have lower payments but people with good insurance will then be fucked by paying more for medicare Its not a mystery why some people dont want it|0 With it being a small area it wont be too hard to find the cunts cracks knuckles|0 OK well wait another couple of weeks then 10000 be enough|1 It always intrigues me just how much this older generation in China has lived through how much change they have seen in their lifetimes My grandfather tells me stories about when he was a child under the ROC government and when he first saw the new red Chinese flag being raised in 1949 when he was a schoolboy And then when the first cars came to his town in the 50s the hardship of the cultural revolution in the 60s when our family had no food and despite being very educated he had to be a farmer Grandpa had so many stories|0 I am not superstitious but if I was sat next to someone on a bus and they told me they had caught corvid19 and their quarantine hotel collapsed Id get of the bus at the next stop|0 Maybe you dont remember the 2014 Ebola outbreak Thats the one Im refering to There was some concern about it spreading to the west but only because people thought it was scary not because of how likely it was to spread If anything most people on the internet were just making memes about it In fact Im pretty sure that was when plague inc started being a thing As far as I know there were only a handful of infected people in the US who were immediately quarantined and that was the end of it I dont remember any experts claiming it couldnt be contained or was already too late to do so They just said we had to be careful to contain it because its dangerous which is kind of obvious There werent any drastic measures being takenAnd Ebola can spread from any bodily fluid including snot and sweat so its contagious long before you actually start bleeding from your eyeballsI never said it couldnt my point was that most ebola infections were very easy to spotMaybe it was demographic based but I remember a post on reddit during the Zika outbreak in which a pregnant woman was going to ban her brother in law from coming to her baby shower because he had gone to Miami the previous month People were definitely freaking out but maybe it was mostly women of childbearing ageYou kind of said it yourself Obviously pregnant women dont want to risk getting zika as they were explicitly warned about on the news|0 Follow your gut You can get married at a justice of the peace and postpone the family ceremony until you know this has blown over Contact your vendors and let them know your decision and why you have made the decision Ill imagine that many are just as concerned as you are and will be grateful If they arent and you lose a few deposits consider it money spent to protect your family I bet it would be an easy decision to make in any other situationA wedding is supposed to be a joyous especially for you and your spousetobe IF and I agree its an if right now if any family member contracts this because of the wedding or related travelhotelrestaurant visits every wedding anniversary will have such painful associations Talk to your partner about this I can tell this is really concerning you Good luck|1 Lets keep in mind here that the Iranian healthcare system for reasons we could debate later is seriously deficient Recent reports indicate they lack basic supplies equipment and their providers lack proper trainingSo for example a secondary bacterial infection that might be treated in what I will call a first world setting might not be successfully treated in Iran leading to a death that was not what I would call a necessary death resulting from the virus And so you can have someone like an otherwise healthy young woman die when statistically a similarly situated first world person would have an extraordinarily low chance of deathIn counties like South Korea we are seeing a far lower CFR because of their superior healthcare systemDr John Campbell is your friend|0 True|1 Im in Delhi India The firstcase in Delhi was found on 27th Feb Everyone he came in contact with was tested but also everyone they came in contact with That chain had 1750 people isolated and tested If he met his brother they tested the brothers colleagues neighbours or whoever he met but they also tracked the shared cabs these first contacts had taken and tested Copassengers and such The cases have still risen to 125 in just 3 weeks Without testing and isolating these people who knows what the situation would have been But dont just go by numbers India is a third of Europe in total area The total population of Europe is 7475 million whereas India is 135 billion almost double Yet our infection rate is 01 per million Theres only a 125 cases and with such stringent checks and tests the government has still closed everything clubs malls gyms gatherings of more than 50 people The only thing allowed is weddings that were preplanned and theyre requesting to postpone those Workplaces are open but as much as possible people are working from home Its already ghost towns here I dont think anyone is taking this lightly here I wonder what these so called First World advanced rich countries were doing all this while Im seriously more worried for people staying in America and Europe than my own country May this be over soon|0 Thats horrible I went to the dentist last week It occured to me that I cant imagine a worse job to have during an outbreak like this|1 I think its where people congregate and do a lot of hugging and cheek kissing|1 Ok|1 youre literally on a pandemic information page whose message is TRUST THE SCIENCE which is EXACTLY the message she is giving out so keep up the cognitive dissonance its a good look|1 Well as they said now that the epicenter of the pandemic moved to Europe I guess they can use the Pword|1 They usually do Every good post is bad etc Its insane tbh|0 So they could have pressed the same button That doesnt mean its airborne We know it survives for some time on surfaces If they pressed a button and then their face then they could become infected Just like other coronavirusses|0 Not religious I think something like 34 of the population is catholic Also religion is only about a bible Thin line between religion and politics Hoping the money doesnt dry up for your free shit is no different than stories about having a single candle lasting for all of Hanukkah Well see how many people in South America are praying when theyre cut off from food and medicine Hope it doesnt happen but looks inevitable|1 Revoke healthcare privilege to those that choose to travel during this timeThey are putting themselves and everyone else at risk|1 My work is running trials to have people work from home Theyre having some WFH Monday and Tuesday Im going to WFH Wednesday Thursday No word as to what will happen after these trials|0 httpswwwnaturecomarticlesd4158602000154w Looks like out of 75000 cases 986 are still in China and overall it has infect a grand total of 0000974025974025974 of the population of the world It has drastically affected China but so far looks like everyone else is alright So again I bring up HOW China is dealing with this|1 This is Europe in 2 weeksShit is about to get serious very soonStar safe turkish friendsGreetings from Germany|1 Agreed good job|1 You cant tell whether growth is exponential from 2 data points And in fact the number of confirmed cases has been rising at about 2000 a day for several day which is linear growth not exponentialNow this may just be because they are only capable of testing 2000 people a day but people getting shocked at these numbers are doing so because they dont understand them|0 no way the infections in slowing in China the evil ccp is lying as usual|0 Thanks I know Im fortunate and Im happy for what I have All the talk about a Payroll tax break is cool and all and would likely benefit me personally but the people that need the money the most are hourly workers and service industry workers 2hour plus tips If Trump decides to do a Payroll tax break theyll get a whopping 5 or less a week What should be done much harder to administer is that testing becomes free anyone that tests positive is quarantined for 14 days and gets a check for 2 weeks pay from the government if they dont have paid sick leave from their employer That would benefit the lower class and lower middle class disproportionately in a good way this time and would incentivize people to get tested and stay home if they test positive Unfortunately this will never happen because socialism so were likely to see a trickle down plan that wont work but will prop up the major indices for a few more weeks|1 It cant be worse than Midway|1 The analysis of 22 studies reveals that human coronaviruses such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome SARS coronavirus Middle East Respiratory Syndrome MERS coronavirus or endemic human coronaviruses HCoV can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal glass or plastic for up to 9 days but can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection procedures with 6271 ethanol 05 hydrogen peroxide or 01 sodium hypochlorite within 1 minutehttpswwwjournalofhospitalinfectioncomarticleS0195670120300463fulltext|1 This will be an interest free loan to American citizens who will then repay the loan with 100 interest to United Healthcare two months later|1 People said only ill people should wear mask I doubt that with this culture will sick people like somebody get flu will wear a mask outdoor|0 Im a right winger but even Im not that naive Trump will take an easy November win and lose it if he doesnt handle this right|1 How dare you billionaires survive off of money they will be starved without more of it|0 We are mostly self isolating minus my husband having to go to work Even though we are away from others I am disinfecting remotes doorknobs game controllers and computers every day If nothing else it makes me feel better|1 Their basically saying Yea were fucked Good luck|1 34 kill rate per WHOYour kids will be fine but parents might die after they catch it from kids|0 An hour ago I strolled through the paint section of Walmart in Holland Michigan No masks Employee said they are trying to order some with no luck Yet nobody in Walmart or Sams next door was wearing one Are people wearing them to bed|0 Why would anyone want to ask the CEOs any questions|1 Thank you so much Can you also translate the writing on this truck httpsiimgurcomOQuhSt3jpg|1 How are such dumb people running the major countries of the world|0 I would think regular exercise should be helpful in keeping us healthy but not quite to the extent of limittesting things like marathons Keep jogging just dont run until you feel like youre going to collapse|1 prophylactic aerosol spray with the blocking compounds minus the cancerous parts of cigarette smokinghaha just start vaping|0 Its more than that You cant tell me youre zero waste take wicked short showers dont use trash bins eat no meat and take a bike everywhere We all have to recognize how we contribute to the problem|0 And sadly THIS is the norm Im sorry to hear that happened to them they arent alone|0 Worse people near me are completelyand proudlyuninformed The elderly neighbor who just went on a cruise and isnt worried about getting sick people in the public library coughing and sneezing without covering their mouths a friend who was surprised at my question at her thoughts about it I dont read the news so it doesnt bother me A religious Christian Scientist relative who lives in Tokyo and refuses to acknowledge the existence of disease These are the people who will refuse to follow any suggested protocols and are going to cause the real problems Like antivaxxers come to think of it|0 All people ARE cremated in Wuhan regardless of whats going on 300 extra dead people over a month and they are running out|0 So serious question if her family is showing symptoms and it was known that she had it what does testing bring to the table Would a positive result just potentially fasttrack them to better care if at all Or|1 you are probably more likely to get the virus on you by touching surfaces not through direct droplets Any trustworthy source for this or is this just an assumption|1 Most people dont give a flying fuck if they are sick and pass it Obviously many love it when others suffer whether directly from their actions or from the actions of others The tough boy mentality also doesnt help If I got thru with having this bug then I feel others should be fineMany humans have poor ethics and lack of empathy It is sad but oh so trueEdit Ranting because this shit happened to me an immunocompromised person Took the others 3 days to recover and I took over 3 weeks And I had warned everyone of them the danger to me asking them to tell me if they or their kids are sick so I can WFH|0 httpsnypostcom20200305membersofsouthkoreanchurchtiedtocoronavirusoutbreakbeingpersecutedleaderssayhttpswwwwsjcomarticlesamanoftwofacesleaderofsouthkoreanchurchtiedtooutbreak11583516020Not confirmed guilty yet but could be Who knows the whole thing is weird but they seem to have involvement somehow|0 Good for you you are a universal recipient can get blood transfusions from any blood type|1 Nearly 125 million people die in road crashes each year on average 3287 deaths a day in the US does this mean I should stop driving Or should I take extra precautions and not text and drive or drink and drive Its the same with the virus ya dingle berry Be cautious wash your hands stay healthy and hydrated All I was getting at was if the government released all the data everyday then it would cause panic|0 Yes but the fact that its about the market is what gets to me The people would dispensable if there were no markets|0 You my friend are on to something Your ideas are no longer yours|1 I literally yelled its not the fcking flu at the screen|1 Go outside in your backyard and breathe in the fresh air a few times a day Take a walk down your driveway or to the mail box|1 This isnt a surprise The Border agents were probably drunkI really hope nCoV is a wake up call to people who think their countries are being responsibly run|1 Im not allowed to wear one at work in case it causes panic|0 With 6 deaths now wouldnt more cases make the situation look better instead of having a higher fatality rate|0 You combine symptoms being shown with things like travel history and other epidemiology details Someone without recent travel outside of the country and no feverdry coughshortness of breath does not need to be tested they are excluded on those things along If someone has travel or known exposure and symptoms then you can recommend quarantine and treat symptoms accordingly Honestly the work that has taken place in the US is far from a failure this virus was not going to be kept out of the country and containment is not realistic Closing whole cities down like China does not seem prudent given that this virus is likely very manageable x200BTesting though isnt going to be particularly useful for containment of the illness With the long prodromal phase folks wont even know to get tested until they have been spreading the virus for several days and since the test likely wont change treatment it is largely a waste|1 Its basically another form of you will take my coupon that expired in 1960 even though it wont even scan and you werent even born when it was valid And they call us entitled|1 With different equipment requirements reagent requirements scalability throughput false positive rates false negative rates and so on etc etc etcTurn your brain back on time isnt everythingYoure as bad as the science reporters out there|1 FCC progress reports|1 Its not gonna have any longterm effects unfortunately Every time emissions have plummeted due to some sort of global crisis they quickly increased again as soon as it was over|0 Its because theyre actually incapable of testing a large number of people The Trump administration gutted the CDC in 2018 and removed our pandemic response team|0 Where else you gonna flex beans hard|0 Why is Germany doing this when healthcare is free|1 it is doubling though That is what exponential growth is|1 For real They do a ton of great stuff all the way down to using recycled bottles for garments Also is your name a Gorillaz reference|1 I fucking love this guy At least hes being candid|1 What is your problem Why are you flying from outbreak to outbreak|0 Get tested by a system without any test kitsOkayNot to mention the UK is still free to travel What a horribly slow and ineffective move|0 I thought it was a joke though the pronounciation is more like mess on yayThe censorship thing does mean that Pence and Azar are setting the communication agenda though I think we can still trust professionals like Dr Fauci and maybe even Dr Messonnier to tell us the truth as they see it They just have to clear public appearances with Pence co and if they say anything too inconvenient then they will be muzzled|1 Perhaps exhaustion more than apathy its unsustainable to live in a constant state of fear|0 I heard from another source a friend of a friend in homeland security I know not the most reliable source but they said thered be a nationwide lockdown in the US Monday March 16th at 200 Now idk what exactly that entails that is all the information Ive heard|1 Thank you for this post as I am also in similar circumstances extremely frustrated by the lack of concern in my own medical institution as well Being that there is definite conflicting information such as CDC treating this as respiratory dropletcontact precautions when there is other evidence that the virus is airborne research papers coming from China and airborne isolation rooms prepped and ready to go around the country I fear that the ratio of infected medical staff as well subsequent death toll is inevitable CDC reccomends staying within 6 feet of individuals expected to be infectedwhy is that Airborne transmission is within a 6 ft radius and other respiratory droplets sneezing coughing is a 3 ft distance There simply are not enough negative air rooms in America currently so the narrative being propagated is mainly for medical staff who are following CDC guidlines to feel secure treating patients who are highly infectious with droplet precautions because CDC knows exactly how bad this is going to get and the sick will have to be treatedwe took the hippocratic oathwe cannot nor will not refuse care CDC is a cozy warm smallpox blanketAnother major concern is how many infected have already funneled through our healthcare systems how many are currently critical and how many have already died that have not been counted And how many hospitals contaminated as well as medical staff exposedsick This is a massive injustice of such epic proportions there really is no way to contend with the level of subversion going on We continue to hear wash hands but if you are enclosed and breathing the same breath you are at risk A typical gown gloves shoe covers mask face shield is not going to work and CDC is prepping our hospitals for failure it seems and have been since day one Day zero early January Ive personally encountered patients presenting with tachycardia tachypenic fever nausea diarrhea headache desats into the 80s respiratory distress forced oxygen on BiPap consolidates and opacities of the lungs testing negative of Influenza A and B Negative of sepsis but positive for troponin leak not indicative of cardiac injury positive for altered WBCs neutrophils basophils so on and so onaltered blood gas exchange respiratory failure ect which is typical in certain comorbidities but with onset being cough fever AO x 4 and dyspnea with this resulting in a dx of Afib or bronchitisbecause coronavirus testing hasnt been and STILL isnt widely available is beyond ANY measure of outrage This is America What has it become|0 Clinics can be turned into hospital rooms And you are assuming everyone gets the virus And they all get sick at the same time|0 Italy deliberately imported the disease Forget about welding bars to doors|0 WHO said it well that the word pandemic has never saved a life Dr Torres and Dr FairDo you honestly believe that People need to be informed and that saves lives This is a Pandemic|1 Yea its just us No one else has 70000 deaths With their great eating habits|1 Thank you You give me hope in the human race Thats exactly the point All these people commenting did not get the point Italian and European are not always interchangeable All Italians are Europeans but not all Europeans are Italians|1 You do understand that there is no vaccine right Anything like the flu where we dont have herd immunity like Spanish Flu is just deadly on a global scale|0 I just read this made my blood boil Theyre not doing anything Theyre not putting a ban on large gatherings banning flights to from highrisk areas quarantining at airports people who have come from China Italy Iran Theyre just waiting until it gets as bad as like Italy or France who have bans on gatherings etc and then act instead of not letting it get that bad Prevention is ALWAYS better than cure|1 Hello folks Rita and I are down here in Australia Mr Hanks said in a statement We felt a bit tired like we had colds and some body aches Rita had some chills that came and went Slight fevers too To play things right as is needed in the world right now we were tested for the coronavirus and were found to be positive They would have been refused testing in the US|1 Is it possible I had the coronavirus in December 2019 I live in Phoenix AZ and I had a terrible glue that last about a week with shortness of breath losing consciousness and a fever|0 Does your team have any experience with recurrent viral infection and if so is this included in your Covid19 models or controlled for in any studies you find interesting |1 Lmao you troll If you mean Dalai Lama and his fellow slave owners I will take that As for HK hahahahaha sorry I could not help laughing Home grown rioters made damage to their home Good usage of annex btw|0 This is my thought also I dont have a link but I saw a video from one of the popup shelters they built in a convention center and the guy running the place repeatedly stated that they would not be treating anyone and they wouldnt have any doctors It really does seem like they might be quarantining mildly ill people without testing them hoping that they simply get better|1 Well damn me it even has shape Poland had back then|0 Speaking of Germany what is going on there it seems like there is not as much news out of there as of late|1 Thank you|1 i heard on the radio that Raab had tested negative for covid 19httpswwwgooglecoukurlsatrctjqesrcssourcewebcd4cadrjauact8ved2ahUKEwiz6Lu1qJXoAhVAQxUIHSuWBMcQFjADegQIARABurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwbbccouk2Fnews2Fuk51697991usgAOvVaw1Ku29wuRP8wn8Lo9eUEJ5Chttpswwwgooglecoukurlsatrctjqesrcssourcewebcd4cadrjauact8ved2ahUKEwiz6Lu1qJXoAhVAQxUIHSuWBMcQFjADegQIARABurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwbbccouk2Fnews2Fuk51697991usgAOvVaw1Ku29wuRP8wn8Lo9eUEJ5Cit says it just over half way down the page second bullet point after in other developments|0 Ah That make sense So there are plans that dont have ER copay whats the point of the plan Doesnt that mean they just have to pay out all the deductibles Are these the socalled junk plans|0 triage is all about deciding who gets treatment and who doesnt when suppliestime is limited why go old vs young when you can weed out the dumb stupid|0 If those medical workers deaths happened in the most high discipline country imagine what is going to happen to EU lazy countries especially to Ireland|0 China doesnt care enough about the world for thst|0 The world is not retarded everyone knows China lies which is why most countries initiated their own bans regardless of what the who said|1 Pass the time by watching The Stand sometimes fiction resembling reality can make the reality not seem as bad For myself I feel that worrying is not a productive use of energy The universe is ultimately indifferent and thus worry does not change an outcome So whatever happens will happenWe are currently in the first half of the first episode of a TV series If things go for the worst this will be the end credits theme song httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvGSKeo5AS5vMBut since its the first act things are still normal and it may remain so since the next episode hasnt aired yet|0 Mobile Passport is free Global entry is 100 for five years and includes TSA precheck|1 Good one The fact that this person refuses to interact with the power of your challenge anymore says it all|1 a waimai guy they dont get shit|1 Well self quarantining is good advice anyway right Thats what I did when I had a fever exhaustion and a cough Never got tested but Im quite convinced I had coronaAnd hey at least your country doesnt have everyone panic buying toilet paper|1 I agree entirely but 14 days is no where near long enoughPlaces like restaurants movies and bars cant handle being closed much longer without government funded aid|1 Yes thats fine The website still talks about needing Pentium 4 class hardware Any laptop from this century is fine Data usage is very roughly 20 MB both download and upload every few hours Dialup and metered cellular or satellite internet might have a problem but you should be fine|1 Youre comparing the whole of China which didnt have covid to hubei To get a real comparison How many died of the flu in wuhan compares to covid|0 She sounds attractive|1 Its not 2 if you consider genetics Perhaps some of them shared the same genetic makeup that made them susceptible to this virus Eg a hereditary respiratory condition|1 Not sure if this is what youre looking for httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2258702binzjv0040802360001jpghttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2258702binzjv0040802360001jpg|0 Umm no But the book could have been done better IIRC it felt like I was reading fiction Alot of individual stories about his guy or that woman and what they went through without much of a big picture background|1 Keep him home because you can It would be different if you were a single parent and a nurse or something Ive been keeping my kid home since before schools were closed because its an option that I have Seattle is bad right now|0 Do you really believe chinese goverment would just erase 2000 dead people Where Will they make people dissapear from the statistics forever Whats the point of hiding it intentionally if you will still need to show the actual numbers This image is just fearmongering|0 Do you think in the coming months the vitamin and supplement companies are going to maximize profits when the idea of being healthy from the inside out catches on|1 Math is strong in this one|1 Yes thats a good one|1 Why the fuck does anyone care about of confirmed cases Nobody cares the difference between being infected and being officially infected|0 Already changing the path of history Humanity will go on but tens of millions will die and it will change the future path of the world irrevocably|0 ICU keeps the patient alive through using things like ventilators and ECMO machines so that their body has more time to fight off the virus|1 Unfortunately without Wuhan type measures you will see much higher rate of infections meaning much higher need for hospitalization I live in a town of about 120000 and our hospital has maybe 400 beds No clue how many ICU patients they can handle Im sure way less than 400 I have heard that 15 of cases need hospitalization If we had10 infection rate here thats 12000 cases and 1800 needing hospitalization And we have heard estimates way above 10 for spread when measures are not taken So my point is theres a reason that Wuhan and other parts of China took those measures and it wasnt fearhysteria Either way were screwed Because you are right the economic damage will also be bad|0 Who else is surprised by the very low number of cases in India One would suppose the virus could thrive easily in such a crowded country Im glad they dont have to deal with this crap for now though|1 I would be interested to know how many people die per day in Wuhan on average Vs How many are dying per day now|0 This might be one of the most inspiring and hopeful things I have ever read Thank you|1 Source Please|1 I think developing reliable testing for virus itself is the focal point now Testing for a specific strain is a distant second priority|0 Is there a percentage graph on the kills to infected for all of these|0 Dude Im not going to the shops if I can avoid it|0 I took a picture of the news I was watching 12 days ago It said 11 dead 159 infected|0 and those who know the temperatures the virus needs to spreadand those who put filters in their air conditioner units unlike the cheap Chinese slumlordsand those who arent chronically ill with lung diseasesand those who arent chainsmokers like most Chineseand those who dont breathe dirty air like the Chinese|1 I was terribly wrong about this I was suggesting that this information was classified but I was wrong Wrong wrong wrong wrong I am so happy to admit that I am wrong in this situation I have been trying to keep my discussions as pure as possible but I was wrong|0 I just gag at ball sack cheese|0 Another civil servant here We are sitting in an open plan office with about 300 people in our building Absolutely no reason why we cant work from home Managers just say its business as usual At best its careless at worst deliberate corporate negligence|0 lol everyone check out the guy with the short elbows|1 That is great advice for people but a business cannot work that way A month of two with no income will kill many small and large businesses And that results in employees with no job or income|0 normalcy bias is a helluva drug|0 I think this perspective is total BS The US has actually done a great job of quarantining every possible infected so far We havent had any cluster outbreaks even given the high number of quarantined infected I think this The US is doing a bad job and Trump is botching this whole thing is a politically motivated and frankly immoral narrative Politicizing this is so stupid and beneath the human race|0 Read it again Masks are effective The point is they lied saying mask arent effective And the secret service allowed trump to be near others without a mask So they were duped or controlled by Trumps administration|1 True But the price is not accessible for most brazillians 30 400 mg pills costs about 2025 USD For comparition 30 1g pills of Metformin costs about 60 cents You dont need a prescription to buy either maybe should I get some|1 The situation in Iran is also complicated by sanctions reimposed after the US betrayed the nuclear agreement that severely impact their healthcare systems|0 Whew Not ideal but Im glad you guys dont have to deal with the alternative Hope your family feels better soon Sucks when your little ones get sick Good luck man|1 Wash your hands and pray|1 Not from a lab thats some dumb shit man|0 We got a lot of old people and medical facilities are saturated so not everybody can get the proper care Unfortunately the medical personal has to make hard choices on who is most likely to survive|1 Lmao at the pretend economists on this|1 You seem to have missed Missouri|0 Citizens need to petition their respective governments to consider banning inbound China flights This is not the time to take chances with peoples lives|1 Nope Peoples who voted for him also got fucked over|0 Thanks for the idiotic link and diatribe Youre missing the point He could very well have it already and just be asymptomatic He needs to get tested the same way everyone else does because the hundreds of people he has interacted with in the past week or two including the giant mining conference he was at need to know if they are also at risk for carrying the virus as a result of their proximity to himMy concern is not panic or denial My concern is that Trudeau is actively abetting the spread of the virus as a potential superspreader on top of giving factually incorrect healthcare advice|1 Sadly I cant find some There is a report from Taiwan media claimed one recovered patient showed some permanent damage to lungs but no specific research paper yetI guess it is just no enough capacity to do relevant research yet As for China I believe most recovered patients are still required to stay home since some patients re turned to positive in the following tests|0 Thank you for doing your part even if the government isnt bothering|1 Packaging things for storage can be therapeutic too I enjoy vacuum sealing trail mixes and stuff Fun actually|1 Good side is after 15 of boomers die house market will be cheaper|0 My hospitals policy isIf you travel to a country on the CDC high risk list you go on 2 week furlough unpaid until you are cleared If you travel somewhere and then that place gets put on the list you go on a 2 week paid furloughBasically if you intentionally put yourself at risk you take that unpaid 2 weeks Tbh even if its not on the high risk list traveling anywhere right now is pretty dumb|0 Even if you buy it through carnival its a third party that does the insurance|1 We Americans are so used to crumbs that seeing 1 of our tax money come back to us seems like manna from heaven|1 So it is possible that all of our friends on Facebook actually have a PhD and MD specializing in infectious diseasesOr maybe the guy who struggled with high school science isnt the best source of truth for how this virus works|0 Can we get Bill Gates at the top at WHO somehow He already preached like 10yrs ago which steps are nessessary to contain a crisis like this |1 If you can stop vaping until this calms down which may be a while Vaping is hell on your lungs and NYC just put out an announcement speaking to this httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirususavapingsmokingorvapingincreasesvulnerabilitytocoronavirussaysnycmayoridUSKBN20V0Z0httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirususavapingsmokingorvapingincreasesvulnerabilitytocoronavirussaysnycmayoridUSKBN20V0Z0Zinc lozenges are a good replacement pop one whenever you would smoke Get patches or gum if it helps|1 At the start of this outbreak China bought up the entire supply of a company called Oxford Nanopore httpsnanoporetechcomaboutusnewsnovelcoronavirusncov2019covid19informationandupdateshttpsnanoporetechcomaboutusnewsnovelcoronavirusncov2019covid19informationandupdates Could you comment on how nanopore testing differs from the RTPCR testing kits please|1 If you like your CoronaVirus you can keep your CoronaVirus|1 Euh guys i think shit is hitting the fan And everyone told me it was just supposed to be a flu|0 Keeping the schools open in the face of overwhelming evidence that it is going to lead to countless deaths is absolutely insane De Blasio The Butcher of the Burrows|0 At every turn people have been reactive we now have a small window in Canada to be proactive People that can telecommute should do so now It costs nothing to implement this basic measure that can help slow the spread|1 The gift for Israel is all those US states that ban boycotting Israel if you want to work with them a staunch violation of the freedom of speech|0 Suddenly your risk to die jumped up|0 I hope he loses half of his wealth in this downturn as karma Fk that guy|1 What scientific data are they using This hasnt happened in our lifetimes it sounds like guesswork and plenty of countries with similar numbers of cases have already closed schools and banned large gatherings I dont see how allowing people to gather freely will flatten the peakWe should be banning large gatherings already People cant ignore a ban and go to a cancelled event|1 The majority of those people will be over 60 with confounding conditions They should avoid crowds and practice enhanced hygiene protocols as should everyone Selfquarantine for this group is important prior to vaccination disseminationThe Trump administration has made the decision to allow this disease to run its course in the United States That is fucking wild but here we are The CDC is complicit in this chosen response and everyone is getting sick if they have not already|0 stop cognitive thinking human ADULTS are still actively boarding cruise ships right now well thats just thats just moronic|0 Thats disappointing hopefully having video verbal evidence from the CDC Chief as well as the commander and chief last nights address is only evidence mounting up of promise to commit and deliver They cant just keep saying everyone can get tested and its free and readily available theyll have to answer to what theyve said and deliver at some point Its apparent the current reported cases are majorly off due to a lack of testing Dr Fauci had stated today that he thought wed have adequate testing capabilities within the next week Hopefully it doesnt take the death toll rising or the ICUs reaching capacity before the incompetence stops|1 Ive only read that about newborns and children Where have you seen about pregnant women Would ease my mind so much Im 15 weeks|1 How though People are demanding the government locks them in their homes people are screaming for authoritarianism Be careful what you wish for|0 As someone who also suffers from panic syndrome and severe general anxiety I can confirm That guy who replied to me clearly cant understand what real a anxiety disorder feels like I guess thats why theyre not a medical professional either|0 Yeah its weird The biggest public health story in a generation a new pandemic that has a lot of similarities to the Spanish flu and it barely makes news Then again I didnt even learn about the Spanish flu in history class had to learn it later from TV|0 It was to make sure the post doesnt get taken down|1 They landed in the US on Feb 17 So not 14 days yet Plus they were not the only ones with possible infectious contact with the 14 diagnosed passengers A new case of unknown origin was diagnosed this week just 14 miles from the base Isolation does not mean they cannot affect anyone anymore Contamination accidents can and do happen They need to be counted You cant count them out as statistically insignificant To do so is called cherry picking the data to suit a narrative|0 Hah take thatI mean that really sucks for the poor people in those places for whom I wish a quick recovery but fuck these propaganda farms I hope someone learns their lesson from this|0 sure and if we want to prevent Wuhan we need the alarm bell to be rung now|1 You are an imbecile Anyone knows that when the predicate does not include any quantification it applies in general You are an imbecile|0 I think medical facility here are better suited to treat you Think of it this way you are doing the Chinese government a favor by taking yourself out of the potential people they need to treat with priority and by coming home you ensure that some other sick Chinese persom could take your potential spot|1 Can we extend rule 8 to also cover economic impact comments|1 The problem is its perfectly possible they just have the flu or a cold Or you can be sick with covid19 and the cold at the same time there are so many possibilitiesWe need to be testing to make sure were not spreading it Of course that being said its way better for now to stay home even if it is just the flu to be safe rather than sorry If at all possible stay the fuck home low risk high rewarde wording|0 In my current attending Hochschule theres one main door where most students coming into the building from and you have to open it by pulling the big handle Just imagine how many would be infected just from that door handle I might look as freak for using my sleeve to pull the handle but i dont care what other people think anymore|0 This is the really interesting statistic How much does the total death rate rise during this time How many other deaths happen because hospitals are overwhelmed|0 Right there with ya but Im 40 Not gonna lie Im scared shitless Wish there was some meta data that broke down whether controlled or uncontrolled BP was a factor in mortality|0 Pretty generous considering that America keeps trying turn this virus into more racist hate mongering towards the Chinese|0 Wake up America Wake up WAKE UP WAKE THE FUCK UP|0 Not a boomer but how easy is it to trigger you guys Get triggered |1 If China isnt lying then it wont blow up people will be ordered to stay at home for weeks|1 Yeah we have a few moments we all look back at and are happy about it Like when Chirac and De Villepin stood against the US for the war in Irak|1 It could be true but unlikely Requiring you to encounter a second strain or a particular set of circumstances But it doesnt seem to be a huge issue at this point|1 No 1 nonisland tourist destination per capita Double the tourists of France per capita and GdP|0 Can confirm Utah is terrible especially all that open space and Red Rock Moab is awful too especially so if you enjoy the outdoors and motorsports or bike riding|0 because the people from the government represents the majority of people ofcourse Sounds like a nice government|1 Wow Well thats a first Bibi actually making sense in a calm and rational manner Well there is one nation that is against suicide waiting on the next contender|1 Agreed Even if they are a little bit effective if both the infected and the person they were going to infect are wearing them they reduce the probability of infection by a meaningful margin Maybe more importantly they reduce the amount of virushttpssmartairfilterscomenblogdiyhomemademaskprotectviruscoronavirusThe study the first part of this article is based on shows that homemade masks can be very effective Filtering 66 of incoming pathogens and up to 83 of outgoing vs no mask at all Thats a massive reduction I recommend practicing I can now go out and not touch my mask at all At first there is an inclination to fidget with them so I can see how in test conditions they could increase exposure|1 Where did Hunt get his figure that 20 of people contracted COVID19 in Hubei province If that were true then wed have 12 million infected 3000 dead and the CFR hovering at 0025 which would be less severe than an ordinary flu|0 this is such bullshit We are not testing nearly enough to say things like this 100000 infected unEFFECTED people walk the steets|0 Unfortunately people dont understand that Of course its going to keep growing but we can see that it doesnt appear to be accelerating Even the Chinese official in charge said it would peak on Feb 10 People need to calm down not touch their face and wash their hands|1 No it wont They will do like Iran and release data in a way that the reported numbers fall in line with their messaging They can also hide Covid deaths within unknown respiratory deathsThey will hide|0 Yeah people in their 60s still do things competitively and WIN against younger people|1 Nay I was wrong Mayor Shawyn Patterson Howard Is the person I would advise seeking|0 We arent basing the 10 off the US Were basing it off China where they stopped testing and would confirm cases clinically as in just showing basic symptoms The WHO believes they know very close to the hospitalization rate the death rate and ratio of mild and asymptomatic cases In Italy half of the confirmed cases are hospitalized 10 is likely quite accurate|0 How did you know where the old people live I dont quite know on my street Also when I knock on their doors as an unexpected stranger theyd be paranoid based on a recent experience|0 This is what I came here looking for although Id like clarity on one thingx200BAre you saying that hydrocortisone actually can help increase a viruss capability to infect inside a patient|1 Dude I live in Italy in a city thats probably going to be red zoned in the next days and the vast majority of people I know still thinks this is just a fluIts just a Spanish Flu Nothing to worry about|0 The eggs being bad for you was fake news cholesterol is more due to genetics than diet|0 Hindsight is 2020 but I am either neutral and out of the market or in the market Trying to time a downturn is a fools gamble|0 I dont know if the US will be more clear like where is the smoking data from the Princess Diamond cruise ship|1 12000 is the estimated amount of people that die in the US each year 61000 died in the 20172018 season This is a pretty mild year because its mostly the part b flu circulating Myself and my kids got it and we were tested at urgent care|0 Yes this is almost certainly the case I believe People just take the official figure and think oh OK thats not too bad They have no idea of the silent undetected spread taking place|1 Ive heard that masks are very in demand right now in China If so contact Plemohttpswwwiplemocom now|0 Its literally the definition of R0 It is not a set concrete value it changes and evolves given mitigation efforts and other variables|0 Well maybe those who want to work canand those who dont get no consequences|1 The experts are often scientists Scientists are often reluctant to speculate in the absence of data Dr Hinshaw in Alberta is pure lawful good striking a hard line on data in her responses for example I dont feel thats the most responsible response but it may explain whats happening|1 Yes a voice of reasonBut skip the Ebola stuff nobody ever cared about Ebola getting anywhereOtherwise your post is as Spock would say quite logical|1 Not sure about most but definitely a few told me they did|1 I hate to type in my PIN number on these ATM machines|0 Theyll start taking it seriously by the time its too late|0 Dude there are 1020 clinical trials on chloroquine registered in China right now And Australia just announced they will be trialing it toohttpsoldredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfjha7ccoronavirusaustraliaqueenslandresearchersfindIt might not make drug companies money to test these But it will cost governments huge money if they dont|1 I always hated him but kept my mouth shut to some of my relatives who supported him I will vocalize my hatred of him openly now He is literally killing thousands of Americans with his stupid actions People will start dying in large numbers in matter of few weeks We will find out|0 This didnt age well did it|0 Alls all the Swedes are healthy|1 This administration has been leakier than a sieve No way the result positive or negative stays secret|0 Could the virus be surviving on surfaces on short distance package delivery from China to Japan|1 Its not an exaggeration My work place penalizes you for calling in sick regardless if you opt to use sick pay of not|0 Excellent article thanks for posting OP I read the comments below the article It was a nearly even mix of You are an alarmist and should be ashamed of yourself and Thank you great articleThere was one poster that actually said that people preparing now with a 2 week supply of food are threatening the supply chain lmao no that would be the fact that China is still mainly shut down and our cheap labor factories are producing at 1020 if they are producing at all|1 Interesting thank you|1 Yep You only need to look at some of the Brexit trade dealrhetoric of the last few years and its outcome to know that they will prevent panic no matter what they have to say|0 Its worth calling in to work for if its that extreme It literally took me 15 minutes to vote where I live|1 Not at this bar no|0 Wish my boss was a decent human being like that Im on a FT contract and hes giving me ZERO for the month of February|1 He talked about how hed love to be a dictator the one time the actions of a dictator would have been useful and he completely fucking bungled it|1 The downside of those vaccines is that they take a week to activate so from a public health perspective they dont prevent transmissionA week quarantine doesnt sound so bad|0 I think China was like at 7 while Hongkong was 15Im not sure the exact percentage but it was suspicious|0 Its the pandemic we talked about but never really expected This is the beginning of the end times With Brexit going on the surviving people 80 or 10 will have to make to with what is in the UK This is it Military on the street Mass panic Ineptitude in Number 10 We have no hope Its what the papers tell us and they cant lie Its the 21st century the most important century Nothing like this has ever happened to anyone before ever Spanish flu Never heard of it sounds foreign Its scary out there though Good thing I a healthy 30 something with no respiratory issues have self isolated Ive been sending out grandad to go get food though which is good Hes 95 he could do with the walkOr you know everything is probably going to be mostly okay as long as you are sensible and adapt to how the following months pan out Not likely though didnt you hear The Daily Fail told me Coronavirus is going to start eating the brickwork of our housesThis sub is infuriating most of the time The advice getting trotted out here is more likely to encourage the bad decision making everyone wants to avoid Everyone here wants support and help but for some reason the sub turns normal people into panicked maniacs Its probably doing more to help the virus do more damage than the virus itselfIf youre not an at risk person youll most likely be fine and only slightly slightly more at risk of serious complications than you are of normal influenza If you stop driving and generally keep more healthy than usual the risk youll take suddenly be hurt or die is pretty low Just look after your fucking elderly and sick and stop panicking|0 ive come to realize that being alive at the turn of any century kinda sucks|1 Send doctors send masks send those huge trucks that help disinfect the streets sorry dont know their names but water comes out from both ends provide medical staff with hazmat suits and protective gear provide oxygen tanks support provide medicine send teams to collect data to see why so many are dying but the gov probably wont let you in|1 China is still social distancingAs a mathematician I think well be doing some form of social distancing for 6 months |1 Thanks going to check with them now|1 Yes bit do you want millions to die within 34 months time Do you want mass graves Bodies burned carried with trucks Do you want to watch your loved one die in your own homes knowing there is nothing you can do Just because odds might be on your side doesnt mean everyone is that lucky|1 Yeah mine just sent out emails saying exams are moving to online Classes are continuing as normal for now but Ive heard rumors the country will go into lockdown next week Fingers crossed|1 True Im sorry It was just the weirdness of putting something this important on the news and then ending it abruptly Its like saying The president just died btw Good night|1 No one is even claiming it originated in the wet market though That was an old theory but the halotypes just dont match up|0 ELI5 Is that a big number Like I get not wanting people to hear a large number and think they have to get out of dodge Ultimately spreading it but 20 sounds like a number Id be comfortable knowing When you dont know any amount to gauge the severity the mind wanders to a sea of paranoia but hearing Yeah its 20 would put me at easeright|1 Youre assuming I havnt made the logical decision to smoke No idea what drmpftrd is supposed to be|0 Unfortunately its only sales people and managers that get leave |0 Jesus Christ we know Literally nobody is suggesting that these services are magically appearing with no costs When people say for free they mean free at point of service Lol they need to get paid for at some point is just braindead nitpicking because everyone knows what people mean|1 How long would it take an asthmatic patient to show symptoms if say their child had it and had mild symptomsAlso how well do infants and young kids seem to be doing Im reading reports of kids recovering very quickly or not having severe symptoms as much|1 Okay what about stores which have 50 or more people in it|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Transparency is the most important thing in times like these|1 Foghorn McLeghorn Were doomed here I knew from his first presser when he said to go about business as usual|0 Anyone thats had little kids know what sickness magnets they are So reckless|0 There has to be a balancing pointBetween keeping the economy running and health isolating the virusAlso nothing has changed just because a virus is spreading around the world some of the wealthiest people companies still trub shoulders wiv govermentsI can Imagine oil transport factories and so on will all be affected once everything is shut down|1 Yes thats what incubation means Median which should be close to averagemean due to sample size is 3 days though This is good news considering I was thinking it was 7 days based on original reports and its already been confirmed that patients can shedtransmit the virus to others during incubation|1 So right It is super strange First rule of stopping something like this is test test test You cant quarantine or trace contacts without first knowing whether someone is infectedIts like theres been zero effort to do anything to stop this disease in this country Its like any preventable disease it wont prevent itself you actually have to take action|1 People have always deliberately spread disease WoW wasnt anything new when it comes to pandemics but when it comes to pandemics in the virtual world|1 The international community and media dont really care I mean come on China has over a million people in reeducation camps out west and the world has pretty much just mostly ignored it |0 Someone shared this earlier I cant believe so much of the explanation in the video game trailer matches reality httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvtat6BZqlyDo|1 Im struggling to find a spot where its close to the doubling 57 days too Seems to doubling every 23In the early stages of the outbreak in wuhan it was 57 days if you trust the number that China reportedAt best the government might be operating on the assumption that it is doubling every 57 days based off Chinese data but that there are a large number of undiscovered cases On that basis it could be concluded that were simply finding cases at an growing rate which they could argue doesnt necessarily indicate a 2day doubling timeBased on the general lack of transparency Im more inclined to believe that it is more like 2 and the government are just trying to keep people as calm as possible for longer|1 Same and same xD|1 Im curious how its looking already with the markets tanking as hard as they have been|1 My concession is that you are a God damned moron that got caught not knowing what respiratory issues means or is diagnosed ashttpsiimgurcomZc5gaC2pngAnd I know exactly since I was there with my wife who was having respiratory issues and was diagnosed with pneumonia caused by the fucking fluDipshit|0 You could produce a shitton of OC43 pretty quickly if you were willing to employ desperate measuresBut if you give OC43 to a ton of people youre going to kill some of them|0 Surgical masks are not very effective against this virus There were lots of n95 and n100 masks available in late February and early March I cant for the life of me understand how people did not prepare|0 This is the operative word If the infection rate really is a 4 or greater yet is key If anyone has the means to stock up on dry food and any needed supplies for the house do it now not when actual panic sets in|1 Is there some where we can logview the ages of the victims This seems like a pretty important factor in how lethal the virus actually is to someone|1 There was a whole thing recently The former leader is in prison there were some weird religious ceremonies with handbags something about a horse school etc|0 thanks I was under the impression that chloroquine and similar drugs were not available in Japan due to decisions made decades ago Is the drug used in the study available for use here|1 Nah But I meantheyve made a lot of progress By any standard HIV is no longer the death sentence it once was And this is a lot easier to recover from than HIV|0 Its a win win situation For OP at least|1 Least Italy got its shit together and started mass testing after some cases|0 nope lol i told my teachers to fuck offstill went to uni still got a degree|0 How does Taiwan stop it from spreading again|0 Agreed It was a business budget Not much in there for the poor|0 Thanks for trying I just think its so important to be proactive since many many people do not have wills|1 I was listening to public radio and a prof was talking about a corona virus on the past that mostly killed middle age people like median age of 28 Cant remember which one|0 Your right its there missed it Thanks for uploading|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 I left January 17th on a scheduled vacation for context Wuhan was under quarantine by January 23rd Everything felt normal when I left no masks in the airport I decided not to return after my vacation ended on February 15th and instead came to the US and self quarantined since I was traveling in other parts of Asia|0 It doesnt have to be one or the other It needs to be multiple approaches Heres what I dont get about our current plan fine we want to build herd immunity and not just postpone the peak But we need to 1 delay it in order not to collapse the NHS and 2 protect at risk groups while we do this There areno measures in place to deal with any of those so far We dont lock down ok but can we at least restrict mass events Can we limit or suspend visits to care homes Can we provide support to people who have to care for their elderly family members so they dont have to go to work and risk infection for a while Nothing is in place and there doesnt seem to be a robust plan with concrete measures Its all handwaving and platitudes That doesnt reassure people when at the same time you say your loved ones will die Oh and why stop testing anything other than serious cases Surely you at least want to gather data to see if your model is accurately predicting events and whether you need to adapt it How are you going to know how much herd immunity is building if you dont know the number of infected|1 Well most of us are corporate slaves Were expendable Their profits arent Bottom line Its a shame Americans are too ashamed to admit this to themselves|0 Most universities in California have already transitioned to online courses for the spring term and are encouraging students not to return to campus after the break|1 Not really You said youre going to worry about your family I said so is everyone else Not sure why I have to recap when you could have just read it again on your own|0 Haha I moved to Texas a year before the faux gas crisis That was such a shit show I work from home so gas isnt generally a concern I remember driving to HEB and seeing lines of cars waiting to get gas And then of course they ran out because everyone bought all the gas Good times|0 Fake or not it bears saying if you smoke quit For some reason smokers lungs are less able to deal with this virus|0 You are a moron|0 Beautiful shit Best shit in the world|1 no man not funny|0 Have you read the Outlander series I really enjoyed the first one bit the following 3 kept me interested enough The 5th one I gave up on haha but other people love themGame of thrones series Theres a book called The Island Under the Sea that I absolutely adored Cant remember the author though I dont read a lot of fiction lol but these books I enjoyed Also read the Harry Potter series as an adult and saw it in a whole new light p|1 Dont attend large public events work from home of you can maybe more aggressive quarantines in hotspot areas I dont think we should be shutting down the whole country over this|0 Now China can product 01 billion face masks a day as China have 14 billion peopleso the shortage of face mask may continue for a period of time|0 My dad says the reason we arent using them is Because the Chinese left the virus on the tests and then they put the tests in your nose and give you the virus ok dad |1 US is fucking lying about their numbers|0 yes that is a stretchThere is a world of difference between putting someone in a makeshift hospital vs murdering them|0 It could be due to a lack of testingreporting but I am really hoping its due to environmental factors andor geneticsThis is what every country says before the exponential growth takes off Our country is special What happened in those other countries wont happen hereWishful thinking Decisive early and widespread action is the only way to stop it|1 Would a sane person type this Exactly Dont ask questions that you know the answers to XD|1 Thank you for allowing me to join and postI will post alot I like free speech and hearing other points of view Willybud also Please cross post anything you like if you like and join httpsoldredditcomrTheCoronavirus|1 My girlfriend is immunocompromised if I get sick at work and then give it her she could die I work at a Chevrolet dealership and just yesterday GM closed all the warehouses we get parts from So there is no way to get parts from GM Yet here we are every day putting ourselves and loved ones at risk because of the greedy owners|0 I dont understand this either Its as if theyre more concerned about their power play in the office and bureaucracy than actual welfare of themselves or employees Madness is all I can see|0 Eh no point in going to get tested and infecting other if you think youre recovering Stay home and rest Youll probably get better on your ownIf your symptoms worsen then seek medical care|1 Thats a really good way to put it|1 This is what the WHO and CDC do good data for decision makers in fast moving global scenariosNumbers and data always matter even more so in a pandemic It is easy to forget that each data point represents an individual and people who love and care about them|1 No lets provide relief to everybody and not just the most vulnerable Every time she opens her mouth something so incredibly stupid comes out that all of her supporters have to defend her by explaining that she cant be taken literally and her statements are just poorly worded directions for some ambiguous strategy|0 Damn hes in the most severely affected age group take care|0 Terrifying|0 Calls it Foreign Virus but fuck everyone but us lol Its a pandemic It means that we are in this together as a world|0 I agree influenzas severity is directly related to the infected dose|0 Why go after the sellers Its legal to price them however they want toPersonally I believe US market insulin costs are more of a threat to America|0 OK South Korea this isnt a competitive esport you dont have to try and beat everyone else s|1 Not possibly there was a recent confirmedtested case of transmission to a kid by giving an autograph|1 They will just say we have a better health care system There are people who are so ignorant they wont care till someone they know or some celebrity dies|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Yea I think the situation is saveable its going to be an interesting political fall out from this also if They get this wrong a real surreal situation may occur where we loose faith in government if they get it right they cement their power 2020 gonna throw some more curve balls at us till the end Ha|1 My theory is that just like a well executed game of plague Inc the virus has actually infected everyone already and is just waiting to evolve to become more deadly|1 Awesome Inspiring to see communities stepping up to the challenge|1 I knew this guy with no arms who could hold a fork and knife and eat with his feetIt was weird|0 Precisely what needs to be said Thank you I can think of nothing Im qualified to add except to say that in my lifetime I have not seen another disease with such devastating potential The only thing I can think of that has been similar novel disease massive worldwide spread has been HIV and that was much slowerDo not panic but do not expect this to go away on its own either The r0 is too high and the incubation time too long for this to be another small outbreak Already it is the largest quarantine in history and likely this is only the tip of the iceberg|1 and many people will die because of it|0 Yes MY family thought I was crazy and now theyre saying Holy crap You were right|0 Honest question why do you think medical experts all say masks have littletono effect|1 yeah jim bear stearns cramerhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv6u1kG7yuy4 is exactly who i expected would be delivering me accurate news about wuhan pneumonia totally|1 Might take like 15 attempts could be a personal issue though|1 Dont think so they said until end of may so to prevent people holding onto them But i bet you theyll be a lot easier to find online after this someone has definitely made pdfs|1 If and only if you cannot be reinfected by it then that wouldnt even be so dumb|0 Do you think they should have to pay any of that towards food shelter and medical care types needs The federal minimum wage is a number that is meant to meet the financial needs of survival Inmates are not treated well in this system yes but why would they be given significant income I could see a program to send that money to their families or victims of their crime but all they can spend that money on is snack food and extra toiletries|0 It wont happen The eu is fundamentally a free market enterprise|1 Pretty sure it didnt take the eventual collapse of the hospitals into accountThey just multiplied the worst case mortality rate with the worst case infection rateWe are fucked in case somebody is still in doubt|0 Fuck We need to end all kinds of travel for everyone now Shits starting to blow up here and there What the fuck|0 Italians strike all the time Not really that surprising|0 Tens of thousandsAnd 150k AT LEAST infected|0 Trust that the experts are hard at workDistrust promotes unrest which in turn creates ChaosChaos will ruin humanity the fastest|1 We havent decided that Were still trying to play it by ear honestly Its tough because our two kids are in high school and its harder for them to miss days and they already missed a bunch like yours because of flu seasonThere are a few cases in our state but theyre not near us so were not in lockdown yet If we start to see or hear of anyone close by with it well discuss selfisolating thenPart of the issue were facing now is its unseasonably warm here which means everyones allergies are going nuts too so how do you know if someones cough or sneeze is actual illness or seasonal allergies I did tell some folks to not attend a meeting of volunteers if they were experiencing any coldlike symptoms and some stayed home so people seem to be taking it seriously but like you Im still anxious|0 Its presumptive only because we have one lab in the entire country that can do the final test It was the same deal with the other guy from Vancouver and it turned out to be confirmed so while theres a chance it could come back negative I think its safe to treat it as a case for now|1 I largely agree with you Where theyve dropped the ball is measures allowing those who are considered high risk to isolate themselves with no petty negative consequencesExample we have 1 bathroom for a family of 4 and no realistic way to isolate a single family member to keep them safe while the rest of the family keep on with schoolwork Ideally the Government should be encouraging the families of those who are most vulnerable to self isolate while those who consider themselves low risk continue as normally as they feel is appropriate As it stands now I cant unilaterally decide to work from home and the kids have to go to school to avoid being penalised for poor attendance|0 Well theyve shown that they actually know how to test and manage a health hazard They can probably keep things locked down with testing at airports unlike the western world|1 It seems in general that the arrogance in major Englishspeaking countries and their psychopath rightwing idiot leaders will come with an even more expensive humanitarian toll than anyone could have foreseen|0 Dude how about you I simply asked if you have nothing positive to say ignore the post we dont need your negativity so again Im politely asking you to leave the conversation followed by a reporting of your rediculous comment Hard internet regulation against positive comments Come on man move on it was marked as a discussion not as facts to keep people thinking positive so knock it off or head to the conspiracy section if thats what your looking for|0 Ive already read it and crucially understood it unlike youSave your bickering for our other thread no need for two at the same time|0 not really their fault their specialist teams got defunded by this administration they are also limited by the vice president now too as he is heading the covid19 fight and can control the situation and info|0 I mean Northern California is probably a cesspool right now already We arent testing much We dont know the actual numbers Visit and enjoy your vacation once this all blows over Is risking your lives really worth it|1 That is great hopefully they are able to produce more and save more lives|1 You should watch House MD Itll last all quarantine time and its sooooooo good|1 Here are some actions that should have been taken by the US as soon as we realized this was leaking out of ChinaStock up on medical equipment and suppliesLook into turning abandoned malls into covid19 field hospitalsAny doctors nurses etc that lost their licenses due to past incidents should have a path to reinstatement with probationThere should be tax cuts and other incentives for new students who want to get into the medical fieldAll unessential travel banned even within the USAll large gatherings cancelledSchools cancelledI tend to think most kids could be taught basic skills to stay home alone if they are 10Theres got to be an answer for the younger ones Government subsidized babysitters etc|0 I have no idea Im guessing theyll end up cancelling because so many people with end up no showing I hope|0 They arent going to contain anything at this point it will just reduce the peak number of cases|1 and disrespect|0 Just out of curiosity do you get the flu shot|0 Right Like is China even still exporting cases Isnt it all Italy at this point|1 No its dismissive thanks Ive seen enough to recognise the difference between not panicking and being dismissive|1 Does landmass matter Its not floating across masses of land its being carried between population centers by people in cars and on planes that negate the distancing effect of landmass Im speculating but I would think density matters much more than landmass|1 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im in WA it isnt great|0 For medical care workers Not for just anyone|1 Win stupid awards|1 Twitter and boomers who used to be hippies convinced them to hate boomers for likes Its simply a trendy thing to do they dont have their own political opinions|1 No better here in the US really One of the largest hospitals nearby has only enough masks for doctors and nurses The lab department which is in charge of preparing the suspected covid19 samples for testing has no masks AT ALL And I have family that work there |0 Colorado has free drivethrough testing even for the uninsured|1 Docs with well crafted pertinent questions noting their creds can get an answer If they CC their state Medical Officer and or State Epi AND if they get an ID doc or two hospital administrator on board can get answers Heck if you got access to your state congresspeople cc them too But first Id call your state Epi to let them know you are going to do it They then might help Make sure they know The world if full of political landmines and people in positions of power seldom suffer from a lack of ego AND if you are in a state that has yet to have a case they arent yet slammed A week or two Id say let them alone or approach them as a group effort A group of docs asking one question from a particular specialty will get an answer I know our ID docs in my state could get an answer like right now and they function as a group Editing Get an ad hoc group together and ask your state Med Association or sub specialities to have a forum list serve Let them sort and look for patterns of questions They can distill out the key issues by simply monitoring it then they can craft a very few key questions as they might arise and establish a connection for providing feedback to the state Health Officer He or She will pay attention I promise|1 Switzerland also has a huge number of Italian dual nationals|1 Same here scared|0 Dried prunes apricots nuts cereal And anything else you usually eat My grocery store has Amys canned vegan no chicken noodle soup which is a good alternative|0 Dont be put of by the Trump being president thing I promise its not that sort of fic Its kind of weird and dark but also super dramatic Wouldnt want to live there but I can recommend you give it a chance its a good read|1 They deemed it unnecessary right now In a few weeks their attitude will change Unfortunately itll be too late then|0 specially since the medication is already available and approved in Japan|1 They must have heard me complaining None in oakland Not another in Berkeley|0 Well Sacremento County just said screw it and cancelled the 14day quarantines for contact people including HCWs They said if youre sick stay home if it gets bad go to the hospital Im not even sure how to take thishttpssacramentocbslocalcom20200309sacramentocountyshiftquarantinescoronavirus|0 It certainly has|1 Walking dead combo symptoms|0 I mean you have to think yourself too Spanish Flu was in 1918 and that was 100 years ago Do you really think we were able to record all the casualtiesinfected people accurately Im not saying shes not trustworthy but everyone makes mistakes|0 Its a bit late for that Budings aside were low on ventilators and other equipment|0 Can you share what you end up writing so others can have an idea of some good points to make|1 This really shows that an entire system is a house of cards The entire economic model is geared towards the Uber wealthy Most people work their entire lives to save up a 401k or investment account for retirement a measly 500k1 million for the average retireeNow the average billionaire investor earns 1 of his money in their checking account along with the gains of the marketYou essentially work your entire lives to save up your entire retirement in the market which just so happens to be the exact same thing making billionaires even richer Im not talking Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates wealth either Just 1 billion for example sitting in an account accruing interest equates out to 10000000 US dollars a year Just for owning the moneyThats how the entire market is truly rigged against us commoners who treat wealth like 1 million is a lot of money We shouldve never reached a point in civilizations where entire peoples livesretirement are tied up in the success of our corporate overlords who are getting richer by the minute Our market has been propped up and inflated for quite some time now It cant be sustained maybe this is the catalyst that makes people reapproach how they go about saving their money There is no economy to invest in to make rich people even richer if nobody buys inThen they have to go back to the old fashioned way Not going public for IPO funding but by private corporations that dont get bailed out again again and by laws regulations and government bailouts|1 The electoral college is a problem but the real problem is that a third of the nation would support Trump no matter what and his approval rating is still over 40 despite the last three disastrous years of Presidency|0 I can pretty easily imagine a scenario where the credit card companies geofence all the cards registered to a certain geographic area And this doesnt even involve novel tech|1 And you can be sure the ones who made this decision will be isolated and have access to the best healthcare |1 As a shareholder Id prefer the cash in my pocket but not at the expense of financial solvency Id also prefer them to suspend a dividend immediately if they expect cash flow problems in the futureIt makes sense for a bailout to include restrictions on cash distributions and buybacks until the bailout is repaid Its far better to have that then a bankruptcy that leaves the shareholders with nothing|0 Hmmmm actually feeling kinda lucid god Great Out Doors or Good Orderly Directions kinda like google mapsActually not a card carrying atheist More of an agnostic Having been baptized in 2 of the major christian religions when I was a child and studying the major religions in college anyhoo thanks tips bowler|1 This is why Im not comfortable speaking to people irl about how bad this is looking to be I really appreciate your response Thank you|0 Its because its true Now that the private sector has been allowed to test freely cases or blowing up Its only going to grow faster each day as more becomes available|1 I didnt think it was bullshit at the time Still not sure it is Nobody has provided any sources proving otherwise RNA viruss mutate like crazy From what I can tell my error was that it didnt mutate to a less deadly strain it mutated to a more deadly strain and burned itself out by killing all the hosts Call me crazy but I doubt these poor african countries could have stopped it Were seeing how fast these things spread even in modern western countries Sidenote researching Ebola and there are the sky is falling articles everywhere Its like the media did the exact opposite of what theyre doing this time|0 I disagree Just slow the spread and we will be fine As long as we flatten the curve I dont think lockdown is necessary|0 Its kinda complicated for a rent payment halt as many landlords are just people with 1 or 2 extra properties not huge conglomerates with hundreds of properties and insurance to handle a mass rent halt like that Wed just be shifting the bankrupting the average person to bankrupting the small town property owner|1 I agree It enrages me when people see the shoe rack outside of my door and continue to wear their shoes into my house|0 This is very true No Google no AOL|0 Mass panic in the capital|0 New business idea I Wuhan tshirts Theyll be way more effective than that personal tent that bloke was wearing After all isnt personal distance and hand washing the key|1 Nothing like constantly eating old canned food|0 Ok genius Go volunteer to take it then|1 And what country is the third in the list Mxico 148 Canad 148 China 135The fourth Japan does not come even close to 10 And sorry but I find this whole free world thing a bit naive Cmon the US has a history of supporting dictatorships worldwide|1 Oh god no thats assault and battery Must not of had my glasses on |0 Did she have any previous health problems 51 isnt very old|0 Sobbing This is a human crisis All there is nothing we can do from afar but watch The amount of helplessness we feel is overwhelming|0 Every single country and every single town and village Doubtful|0 There were no symptoms Her body fought off the virus Its good to go see a doctor if youre sick but not where there is a possibility that you might actually get sick by going to the hospitalThe point is that this virus kills some people so does the common cold there is no denying that and there are unknowns that we will learn in the next few weeks But there are plenty of sick people at home drinking water and drinking chicken soup with a fever who will most likely not die There are people who have also made full recoveries So far all evidence points at the fact that if you get the virus and dont have a weak immune system then youre about to have a shitty 13 weeks of feeling like shit but most likely will not die If you do have a compromised immune system age illness then yes please go to the hospital and take care of yourselfPeople who should be going to the hospital are those who are really sick or have weak immune systems If you have a fever then stay at homerest and monitor your symptoms|0 We dont know where this rumor comes from said FranzWerner Haas CEO of CureVac the Tagesspiegel We have no offer And we will not take part in the rumors about it It is true that CureVac in the White House along with other biotech companies spoke to the US President who signaled that we should hurry because there is a health policy issue ProblemWe need a vaccine for TDS|1 If theyre worried about buildup just print replacements and change them frequently|0 Nah stopped reading when you defending the fake photo and pumped their ability to certainly construct a big hospital in 10 days|0 Yeah amazing how they have control of Italy and Spain and controling POTUS to make him stop all the planes and get tested himself They are unstoppable|1 Your submission has been removed Celebrating advocating threatening suggesting or inciting violence death or physical harm is not allowed in rChinaFlu and it is also against reddits sitewide content policyhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentIf you believe we have made a mistake help be the change you want to see Mod applications now open here httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1themoderationteamofrchinafluislookingtoIf you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I honestly had some high hopes for Trump when all this started despite the fact that I am 100 not a fanHes a germophobe and loves keeping nonAmericans out of America This should have been easy for him|1 So sorry to read this|0 I feel like scientists making these test kits would be well aware of this if this were an actual thing|1 People cant really even fault them for not believing the seriousness of this until it was too late They are the ones who went through most of their lives fully believing that the US government would fix everything at a national security level all the time It must be a smack in the face for many of them in the twilight of their lives that the country of their youth really truly does not exist anymore Thing is weve been trying to explain to them that its been on the fasttrack to decline for the last 15 years at least They never wanted to hear it Most of them just didnt know any better like my dad He was a good man but he never understood how me and my brother would struggle so hard to pay for college or find a decent job with a living wage even after years in said college A a lot of them just didnt see or refused to see that shit was on the wane|0 This would put small businesses out of business Even places like McDonalds and Taco Belltheyre corporate branded but usually privately owned and operated I understand the sentiment but theres a reason the governments of all countries slow walked into what only Italy and parts not all of China didEdit also Singapore forgot them|1 Ive had the exact same thing just constant attacks and downvoting when asking questions sharing thoughts Makes me feel like Im done with Reddit tbh its just a lot of arguing and memes about toilet paper |0 Anyone she exposed could still be in the incubation phase for 8 more days and then it will take another 710 before the symptoms are bad enough theyll seek medical treatment Assuming it ever gets bad enough they seek treatment e only about 20 get that bad while infecting others the whole time|0 So you work for Good Life or what What masks People at the gym wearing masks Where are you from corporate Good LifeLets get real and just talk about the close personal distances between people thats the problem here profits over safetyPeoples hands on the free weights etc|1 I mean no What should we have done differently according to you We still have no idea what were dealing with how the fuck should we prepare for something like this Please give me your pandemicplan for how the world should have reacted and please keep it realistic You cant just spew out loads of bullshit and then have no clue yourself Thank you|0 And maybe thats the reason the majority of cases remain mild They dont wait a case to become severe in order to apply the treatment|0 I hope these things restock relatively quickly theyre stuck with 10000 lysol wipes and they have to pay off credit card debt they thought theyd make back reselling Thats my hope|1 Actually based on the small case study including 41 of the first identified 2019nCov patients his course of illness matches up almost identically It seems like this is the MO of the disease Mildly sick for 78 days then about 25 of people develop pneumonia|0 What the fuck|0 httpsthehillcompolicyhealthcare487863trumpurgesamericanstoavoidgatheringsofmorethan10peopleIt is possible they will extend the restrictions but as of right now its still 15 daysThe guidelines are a 15 day trial guideline to be reconsidering Fauci said It isnt that these guidelines are going to be in effect until July What the president was saying is that the trajectory of the outbreak may go until then|1 I watched this last night and had apocalyptic nightmaresChris is saying the RO is much higher than previously predicted httpsyoutubeQVQC1hAYZBs|0 Ive seen one racist comment today which got downvoted Thereve probably been more that I havent seen|0 Live in Louisiana the governor just announced all schools are closed untilApril 13 or somethingGood call John Bell Bravo It was 19 possible cases which means the lab in Baton Rouge said they was positivethen they send it to the cdc to confirmI trust my state labtheyre positiveanywayI digressand today its 33sodamn near doubled Social isolation phasewe aint going to contain thiswe need to delay it as long as possible Help out our medical people theyll need all the help they can get Assume its already in your community and conduct yourself accordingly We will get through thisbe kind to each other help each otherwe are all in this together Lache pas la|1 At will means then dont need a reason to fire you but unjustified firing usually mean you can collect unemployment and oftentimes sue if you feel you have a case Theres also protections stating that they cant pretend to fire you for no reason as a way to cover up an unjustified termination|0 Governments sometimes use resources to provide goods or services when its in the best interest of the general population|1 I will continue to short the market Dog sqqq sdow sds all good inverse ETFs|1 And its no big deal|0 I can only comment that I have personal experience with the National Guard assisting in personnel and public decontamination efforts for radioactive materials we work with them for training exercises so deconning for a virus wont be that much different I dont know if this fully answers your question but maybe helps|1 Yes obviously to the butterfly farm Just like snuffles RIP|1 I believe that some things should belong to the greater good and should not be capitalized on but others would argue that innovation would be stifled without competition and compensation afterall in this world we value wealth more than goodwill and our hierarchy puts those who are the most vulnerable yet make the most impact donation sizes excluded at the bottomDonations of a large caliber are tax writeoffs incentivizing wealthy people to give away some of their wealth to make even more in the places they make the most and while that might draw attention to causes by no means is it pure philanthropy Regular people face the consequences of less taxes in their communities states Income inequality would absolutely make the situation of an epidemic worse without adequate service funding or competent leaders in the government Your heads in the right place despite the negative karma internet shills are going to give you Bernie wants to shake the statusquo like FDR but of course theres going to be pushbackPeople have fought hard for their benefits and intrinsically dont want those efforts to be in vain Despite not having anything to lose and everything to gain the fantasy of being an outlier and pulling yourself to riches by the bootstraps through grit and overtime hours in a minimum wage job while others cant is too real We all want to be the exception The Skinnerbox Theory in gambling is blending into our daily lives to glimpse victory but face defeat keeps us going more than to taste victory consistently And thats why the Trump cult thinks theyll eventually win if they keep following him and they dont want to change it But where casinos kick you out when you run too far in the red Trumpers arent phased by the rights and precedent losses that our nation faces because it seemingly wont impact their daily lives theyre sold on the appearance of a win while the House is rolling in the profits of their ignoranceTldr I spend too much time paying attention to rpolitics but this is all connected Trump is just a symptom of the American Daydream and Bernie is a wakeup call|1 Its two hotels The Wynn properties Easier decision for them to make because its Wynn The bulk of the other properties are Cesars entertainment and MGM entertainment Bunch bigger multinationals that have to make this decision I hope they will I realize this statement fucks the backbone of our one trick pony economy but better to apologize later for overreacting than to have to be part of the problem|1 I havent seen the Thai wet markets but Im sure theyre bad as the exotic pet markets are awful I have photos an Instagram friend sent me of them They were selling the rarest exotic cats in the world for cheap prices Cages were stacked high on top of each other in the sun crammed with all types of animals many ill and in horrible condition It was obvious how disease could spread in such a place|0 Wow You totally missed the point It isnt about Obama or Trump|1 Cincinnati here lifelong Democrat here but DeWine has my vote moving forward His actions will save many lives|1 Natural selection at its finest|1 Thanks Yeah if her flight was Tuesday Id feel more on the fence about it Now Im really worried because Thursday is too far out|1 Yes for reverse osmosis you want clean water further away from the shore and for the other method which name now escapes me you need heat thats fed by engines so you want high RPMs in the engines|1 And for right now I need to not die|1 People will survive if they dont go to bars Drink at home How is midnight much better than 3am|1 My favorite is the guy with mask down smoking Hes not scared of no virus|1 Just for comparison sake a when Ebola came to the USA were the entire cities of Dallas New York or Los Angeles our on quarantineDIdnt Ebola only kill 4 people in the US I dont think thats enough to warrant a threat Im sure if hundreds started to die they wouldve considered quarantining|0 Cool your jets theyre not being anti science Theyre making the same point as you that studies can contradict each other and we dont know anything fo sure yet|1 Thanks But man its a national disgrace were taking handouts when we have more labs then anyone in the world Why are we so far behind No one decided to start until it was way too late If we starting working on testscapacity In January wed be the ones helping other countries out We have the best hospitals best doctors best treatments the CDC is at the top of the world in terms of respecthistory of work most labs the most ICU beds per capita the largest economy in the world and were a complete an utter embarrassment in our response|1 Contact tracing genius They really need to know who is or isnt because they constantly deal with other people 100s if not 1000s could have been infected since Gobert first got exposed and this includes other players fans front office reporters media personnel workers security celebrities health personnel and thats just inside the stadium|0 You dont have a trial without witnessesNo witnesses no exoneration son|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 The lackluster concern and ignorance happening in this country currently is mind bogglingI fear this may be the case in all the provinces Not just Montreal c|0 USA has transferred moderator privileges to Russia|1 This guys a genius and should be on CNN The world wont even call it the Wuhan or China virus instead its a technical name meant to make people forget where it all began and who covered it up|0 Exactly I teach middle school SPED and the one period when I have all my caseload kiddos we watched videos on hand washing on Discovery Education Yesterday we started the experiment using bread thats been touched by their hands Hands that were washed with soap waterJust used germxHands touching the computer One piece of bread fell on the floor Hands that touched the doorHands that touched the communal pen when signing out Students touched the bread before putting it in plastic bags Well see Monday or so Anyway we discussed good sensible hand washing in order to stay healthy in a practical and commonsense manner One boy admitted to not washing his hand a since first period its now 6th period|1 And its likely to shoot up to 20 once the medical system is overwhelmed|0 And convincing people that its a slightly worse flu|0 There are 60 year olds running marathons and 60 year olds that are overweight with diabetes and riding around Walmart in an electric cart|0 As someone living in Lexington just a couple miles from the hospital life is just going on as normal outside of people rushing the grocery stores to stock up on whatever they think they needI have UK hospital workers through who say its nothing to worry about with an ER doctor saying you can just drown coronavirus out by drinking large amounts of water And a woman who works in the med labs saying coronavirus is acting funny in their testing samples Instead of leaving the cells after replication its fusing to other cells not a thing that happens in other viruses as far as either of us knowTheres just so much varying opinion and misinformation along with lack of any hard knowledge of infection areas its hard to decide what in the hell to do|0 You know I guess its kind of hard to be surprised with all of the Its just a flu bro idiots that are gleaning all of their information from facebook and the MSM but it is still surprising given the current situation in other countries and now several US states Does that make sense to you or would it help if I posted it to your facebook page|1 Hardly inspires confidence|1 Ive had 5 lung operations due to skateboarding accident then ongoing spontaneous pneumothorax random collapsing of lungNot had any issues with this now for a good 4 years but I did have cancer 3 years back testicular but it is leydig cell tumour so was immune to radiotherapy and chemotherapy and surgeons had to go aggressive and cut me chest to groin to get to lymph nodesDue to the above am I now in 80 year old age bracket of dying if I get this or how much has the chances increased30 year old male|0 people who have it go without symptoms and spread it to others when incubation period ends it starts showing then its too latethats why we are all fuckedx200Bbio weapon|0 Ive seen too many totally absurd socalled true stories on reddit already Like you said the Uyghur situation Ive seen pictures with a hungry Uyghur child recently taken and was upvoted to the front page While it was actually a picture from 2003 and the child was NOT Uyghur but actually Han ethnicity Also Ive seen news saying Han ethnicity did massacre to Uyghur people in Kunming Station I was like WTF cuz that was like a super huge thing in China everyone knows that it was the opposite Han ethnicity people were killed Even if you check the news outside of China youll see thats the truth though NY times never regard it as a terrorists attack they still admitted that it was Uyghur people who involved in it While some posts on reddit saying the opposite and NO ONE pointed out It was almost ridiculous as saying that Jews murdered Nazi during WWII Why such stories can be upvoted and believed Because westerners dont even give a fuck about us dont even wanna google it and see if its the truth You only believe what you want to believe While most of redditors believe that they are the ones who see the truth and Chinese mainlanders are being brainwashed and are all shills and bots remember we are human too And while you think we only see half of the stories you are the same as well At least I learned English used VPN and tried to understand the other half of the world What about those who only knows English and never tried to understand what other 14 billion people on this planet are doing or thinking|0 casually advocates technocracy over representative democracy lol|1 I feel like theres a middle ground somewhere|1 I had a bad bad flu years ago and I swear my endurance never recovered|0 There is no notice to giveI guarantee this is not some fat cat administrator hoarding information This is moving EXTREMELY fast|0 Honestly I dont follow league at all but faker is probably the most decorated player in esports history the only other esports player that I can think of that can really ever even come close to competing for that title is the csgo legend s1mple and he still doesnt come very close|1 Rumor is he gave his arm sleeves to some kids too while infected I know he wasnt taking this seriously but I feel for him now you gotta know he is torn up about this|0 because WHO is market economic organization no longer health organization s|0 Get a big box of nitrile gloves at Costco Good luck|1 Finally someone who is saying what we need to hear Im a righty Id be glad to team up and fight this thing with you|1 Lucky that you really do have a mild case People have been reported being awfully sick not being able to sleep more than 45 min because of coughing attacks barely being able to sip water for how much their throats hurt description was throat feels like raw hamburger meat from a healthy 33M I believe and that is also considered mild because they didnt need to be hospitalized and put on a ventilator|0 Italy closed schools and canceled events after less than a 100 cases confirmed It was not enough Your country is not doing anything but blaming the rest of the world and try to safeguard big corporations I wish you luck buddy you are going to need it|1 A really insightful read thank you for this|1 Ive never been so happy over dropping out of nursing school years ago|1 These numbers are not being reported in the press for some reasonhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiDSMANoticeTheres a reason each news outlet even the red tops are reporting the same thing theyre being briefed by the government before releasing info|1 BothThats the problem with censorship Once you lie about stuff people assume everything is a lie|0 Denial is a coping mechanismMany people are scared of sudden changes and uncertainty carrying on as normal makes them feel safe|0 Active cases is a bit more reassuring so thats what Protezione Civile is giving out on the daily announcement It also kinda makes sense because its the number of new people who need to be taken care of|1 Apparently the ski parties in Ischgl in Austria have been literal corona parties Theyre tracing infections all over Europe all the way up to Iceland back to this single locationhttpswwwntvdepanoramaWiedasVirusausIschglEuropainfiziertearticle21648085html|1 Everyone liked that|1 That shit will go into my savings account and sit there|0 And by a few you mean all of them lol All we can hope is that the meme is not so relevant for much more than a week though |1 I believe in you buddy God be with you and your loved ones amen|1 Putting my Vega GPUs to workYou were never terribly good at gaming but good God do you love crunching numbers|1 The whole of the uk could be infected and schools would still stay open|0 Working at a car dealer right now hourly staff being sent home Flat rate techs and commission advisorssales forced to stay on the sinking ship 20 appts when 100 is normal Feel like a zombie in an abandon mall making less then minimum wage Change Stan is that change|0 Is the disease as bad as most people are fearing Aside from the atrisk population elderly underlying health conditions Does an immune response of inflammation of the organs happen in every case of this virus What is the prognosis for an average young healthy individual and is it possible a COVID19 survivor will contract the virus recover naturally and have no idea they had it|0 No one is saying to stop commercial traffic we are talking about passenger traffic Why is it that canada can separate the two for every other country but not the US|0 I was going to pick up a 2pack of spray kitchen cleaner and it was out of stock until the middle of aprilI had a similar reaction of Wtf then Ohhhhh right|0 Why are no one wearing masks or any preventive measure at all holy shitMy wife and I were the ONLY people wearing masks at Costco yesterday Even when China ran out of masks people did everything they can do cover their face at airports|0 Your risk of dying is very low Theres still the chance of irreparable damage or the virus lingering in your body and reinfecting you later|0 Its the rule why I havent told anyone I bought a small stack of supplies to start with Gives me a few weeks at least of food too Im not in an area to start panicking yet but I didnt have basic medical supplies which really made me rethink what I was doing|0 Like I said Ive never done a clinical diagnostic test Yes they probably have good controls which is a great point to bring up But I still know that DNA quality could be an issue poor extraction etc|1 United States JFK|1 I wish I could say you were crazy OP You are not The US has just banned travel to Europe for a month because of Coronavirus Your sisters concert will very likely be cancelled anyway|0 Yup agree Got some funny looks when taking out my ffp3 Anyone know whether I need to throw it away straight after first leg of commute or whether would be OK for the way back|1 2 is ridiculously low More like 20 if the hospitals are still functioningAfter theyre swamped mortality quickly skyrockets|0 Discomforting on many levels these are the geniuses we elected to lead us through this national emergency|0 Report from Los Alamos National Laboratoryx200BThe novel coronavirus 2019nCoV is a recently emerged human pathogen that has spread widely since January 2020 Initially the basic reproductive number R0 was estimated to be 22 to 27 Here we provide a new estimate of this quantity We collected extensive individual case reports and estimated key epidemiology parameters including the incubation period Integrating these estimates and highresolution realtime human travel and infection data with mathematical models we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 24 days and the R0 value is likely to be between 47 and 66 We further show that quarantine and contact tracing of symptomatic individuals alone may not be effective and early strong control measures are needed to stop transmission of the virus httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1|0 It was sarcasm|0 Thats really scary for all cancer patients|0 stay safe|1 Hi I still dont know if I have it as I havent had the results back I feel a lot better then I did but I do still have the shortness of breath but Im piloting it down to having a cold so I dont panic to be honest I just had a really bad cold that lasted 34 days I wouldnt panic unless it gets so bad that you have to ring 999 Im sorry Im not more help but I wish you the best of luck that its just stress and panic|1 Please tell me they arent closing the Lowes yet I was really hoping Id be able to grab a few things and get some work done during the lockdowns|1 I reported the assholes on Facebook earlier this week Horrible people|0 You have absolutely no way of knowing that|0 Here are the 2 studies as mentioned aboveZinc as an inhibitor httpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1001176httpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1001176Chloroquine as a Zinc Ionophore promotes entry of Zn ions into the cell httpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0109180httpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0109180 Apparently taking Zn supplements has negligible effects as the cell will not let it enter with its normal regulation Chloroquine however greatly increases the concentration of Zn inside the cell supplements or not|1 Would it be possible to swab objects such as door handles or shopping carts in busy locations to monitor if the Coronavirus is present on the surfaces on these objects It seems that it would be helpful to know if the virus is being shed in locations Resources could then be put in place to prevent the spread|1 If there was enough popular sentiment to do that the government would likely react without it needing to happen The peoblem is that many people are taking their cues from the government currently|1 and mine as well|1 Cargo comes on ships And ships have sailors That is why he stopped cargo|0 Totally appreciate his job But medical professionals do dress like this for infections Have you seen what happens when they know someone is HIV positive or has Ebola|1 Remember that as humans increase their population density we have to keep ourselves sane Personal space is really important for the human psyche Not everyone can be your friend and smalltown friendliness doesnt work in cities of a million people Sometimes ignoring your neighbour is the nicest thing you can do for them If they need or ask for help that is another matter But keeping to ourselves does make big city life easier in many cases|1 The Winchester is only doing takeout sorry|0 Actually 14 days before symptoms occur 3 weeks before death So this person got the virus 4 to 6 weeks ago|0 Is government inaction due to them being terrified theyll cause a recession if they lock down the country I know in Ireland recession is still a very dirty word with many still having PTSD from 2008 but these are exceptional times Whens the last time we had a pandemic|0 How do I get a negative interest rate on my student loans |0 Wuhan a city of 11 million people is still being locked down No one can come out from their estate to come to work or buy food in supermarket Is this really the right time to send your doctorsnurses to help other countries Dont misunderstand me I am a world citizens but I think the Chinese gov should be responsible for its own people first before helping others Especially when China has a history to send food and money to African countries when their own people dont have enough to eat|1 See I couldnt do that My job snd farm need me and if Im stuck home especially in winter it might mean things starving animals and roads not getting plowed|0 the quarantine is meaningless anyways anyone can get through if they look healthy and donate a few hundred yuan|0 Lol you talk with so much assurance people upvoting your anti Tory bile has clearly deluded you into thinking your words have any substance|1 ubadcompanyyHi There are a lot of tips on this sub and help to put things in a proper perspective|1 Unfortunately I am not shocked It also explains why not all states are reporting infection as without testing kits there is no way to confirm diagnose|0 Lol Its images and articles like this that will become history|1 Nah you give it an extra boost and send it crashing on a tree to make sure everyone is dead and wont need healthcare|0 The quality of this sub will go down if levelheaded people like you stop commenting|1 Seriously this is such a nothing topic just leave the deliveries at the door of the person without ever making contact with them text them and call them to inform them the delivery has been made done We have far more important things to worry about that dont have such obvious solutions at this one|0 Yes|1 Thats pretty odd unless she signed in advanced something like that when hired And how would they know Did they chip herIf shes at the edge of the state and still didnt show up to work would proof that being within states border be all cool|1 if it makes you feel any better this person doesnt know whats going on corporate has literally been having us wipe surfaces down with clorox wipes at least every four hours there are other protocols to protect customers as well such as doing everything for them so they dont have to touch anything they are also going to pay us if we get diagnosed with coronavirus or are forced to quarantine not from our own sick pay|0 Its the runitedkingdom idiots taking over the sub now Thankfully the top mod is not like them|1 They cant afford to service the massive debts theyve taken out money from which they spent on stock buybacksI dont really see how indiscriminately paying off shareholders isnt at least partially responsible for the issues theyre having|1 fuck sake thats what scares me a lot I wish all that idiots take this virus serious and fight it as China did just pls 2 months of fighting and we can be back to your USARussiaChinablaming eachother shit |0 Without aid from the wealthy and governments the working poor are forced to handle the virus head on It is ironic because the rich make their money off this demographic looking at Hollywood for example so by not helping the working poor they are essentially leaving their money makers to diebecome too ill to workThis would be a great time for the 1 of the world to give back to the rest|0 Shameful|0 Of everyone who gets covid19 on average 20 will need hospital we are now only testing people in hospital which means at best we are detecting 20 of actual cases roughly|1 Thanks Hope you feel better Also I like your username I have 5 platypus tattoos|1 AvE has a CNC if there are any metal parts needed im pretty confident hed be up to the task|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Youre wrong but okay|1 last video i saw from germany was a bunch of people puking on eachother and girls pissing on the wall in public|0 Well Its better than nothing I suppose Ive not worn it yet Im scared by what will be signalled for my life when I put it on|1 The Champions League match in Leipzig against Tottenham is going to go ahead in a packed stadium with almost 45 thousand people|1 The problem is that Joe Schmoe doesnt understand exponential growth how rapidly this can and likely will get out of hand very quickly|0 Also it is much better for you than hand sanitizer|1 Finally no more forced fake laughs on TV|0 Problem with this is that the story is false Curevac themselves denied it This administration didnt actually pull this shithttpsmobiletwittercomCureVacAGstatus1239535638359281664httpswwwfoxnewscomhealthgermanvirusvaccinefirmdeniesusmadetakeoveroffer|0 Who is eligibleIn order to participate the Age 29 law requires the coverage the young adults parent and the young adult to meet certain requirementsThe CoverageThe coverage mustBe an individual group or group remittance health insurance policy that includes coverage for dependentsBe issued in New York State and subject to New York State laws andBe fully insured this benefit does not apply to selffunded plansPlease contact your employer employee benefits administrator or insurance company to find out what state laws apply to the policy and if your coverage is fully insuredYou are correct it only applies to marketplace plans and not employer paid plans|1 No Im an accountant|0 Screened does not mean being tested as far as I know Screening is probably like are you feeling sick Have you had contact with someone with COVID19 Like anyone is going to answer yes to those if they want to go home anytime soon|1 Didnt get the chance They took it down or hid it before I could|0 For the most part if an existing FDA approved medicine is found to be effective several manufacturers can switch over to producing it to alleviate a shortage It happens all the time with medicines that are in high usage and for one reason or another encounter a shortage|1 I also would have loved to see the Daily Show take on it but I think they are done indefenitly as well|1 2 is over 700000 people in Canada if everyone gets it Fentanyl also considered a health crisis has killed 14000|0 If only there was some way to translate a PDF into English Id love to read the entire report|1 thanks for this will wipe down instead of spraying do we know how long it takes to become inert yet|1 What if I bought them back in January when everyone in the medical field had their head up their asses while Chinese people were sending every mask they could find to China Should I feel bad for thatHonestly dude dont be salty because you sat on your rump until it was too late You didnt address how people wearing masking to preventpostpone infections doesnt help flatten the curve Read more and post lessHerp derp|0 Because its a distraction from the attention on him Classic narcissist Same as Trump|0 Reading the news it seems like Taiwan has been on top of their shit since day 1 Kudos to them|1 Work at a hotel and most we got today was housekeepers dont forget to wipe remotes|1 My Fortune 500 company just banned company travel unless considered business critical to be determined on the executive levelSo yeah airlines will be on life support|1 Politicians are one of the most susceptible groups since they are typically older travel a lot and are in close contact with tons of people Just look at all the presidentsprime ministers that tested positive or are self quarantined Its going to rip through the government|1 The markets arent worried about climate change either but thats a thing we only have a little time to address|1 Its the name of a song by Panic at the Disco|0 Shit Anyone at this point|0 Steam owner is very rich too|1 I did not know about the strategic cheese supply thats funny In a dark way but funny|1 Thats the shit everyone who didnt take this seriously says When I stocked up almost a month ago there were no crowds no panic I was the only one doing it and I had a net zero effect on suppliesEveryone wants to say that people are taking too much or hoarding because they cant find anything on the shelves now But the simple fact is that no store no city for that matter has the supplies on hand to support everybody wanting to buy at once Its not hoarders its not people suddenly stocking up for a year its just a ton of people who were late to the game didnt take it seriously and suddenly find out what the rest of us knew that when this thing really kicked off there would be a massive run on the stores and you wouldnt be able to get what you neededYour assertion that if everybody just took what they needed there would be plenty is simply false Any given city in America will have on average 1 to 2 weeks worth of supplies for average buying patterns Weve all been told to stock up for at least two weeks People are just taking what they need for the most part but everyone buying two weeks or more of food at a time is not an average buying pattern Plus I think quite reasonably people assume now that two weeks probably isnt enough Calling everybody hoarders and shaming them for buying enough to stay home is counterproductive and unreasonableOf course the media is just gonna focus on a handful of cases where somebodys buying up all the Clorox wipes or toilet paper or hand sanitizer because that sells views Its not what the majority of people are doingIm genuinely sorry that people cant get what they need now especially people who cant afford to buy two months supplies ahead of time but the reality is that everybody should have two weeks of nonperishable food supplies on hand anyway and yall couldve been slowly adding a can at a time for months now|1 Sorry to hear that man good luck I really hope they take you seriously|1 It was a man who died Thank you White House Official for getting that part wrong We have zero faith in any of you anyway|0 Huh just in time for cold and flu season Shit|0 Yah man I live in Breckenridge Which is 9 minutes from Frisco Frisco got their first you cant buy hand sanitizer anywhere in summit county Or lysol wipes Or isopropyl and aloe vera gel even because people are fucking making their own Currently in my garage smoking a cigarette yall wish me luck lmao|1 I feel bad for this autist and his cult following|0 Outright racism Lest you forget racism is defined as the hatred of a persons because they are a member of a certain race Blaming a nation for the spread of a virus is not racist|0 Definition of conspiracy theory a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfjofyaitalyreports3233newcasesofcoronavirusandfkoh763context3 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|0 Lets boycott China|0 The Dems do not control the Senate have zero ability to block appointments|0 People are not used to thinking weeks ahead Only a few are sick now so weve got time Nope the hundreds that got infected in a city today are going to be filling ERs in two weeks and in that time they will have infected thousands more who will show up in the following weeks etc|0 Its what draws them to the industry Medical workers are the modern day saints and saviors of our society They are selfless people who put others first The pay sucks unless youre a specialized doctor You risk health safety and sanity on a daily basis The hours suck and the appreciation you deserve never comes Mom was a nurse|0 That is the most dumb thing I ever read not you OP|0 Yeah I struggled with the wording on this because no matter how I ask it sounds callous Or as if I dont care about these deaths That is very very far from the truth I have a number of older people who are close to my heart and Im worried about themIm trying to understand the numbers and how much true risk is being added by the COVID19 infection|0 Im 29 weeks and a home birth sounds terrifying to me But I also had preeclampsia last pregnancy so I am totally not the ideal candidate for a home birth Heres to hoping I dont get it again and the hospitals arent overcrowded by midlate May|0 Yeah I said I also believe there can be a possibility This seem to be trustworthy facts Just take care when you read news from BILD in the next time|1 Plus theres the geopolitical threat of the latest warlord or communist revolutionary demanding bribesNot sure thats omnipresent in Africa|0 Approved Sorry its so late Different timezones|1 This is the case other places Its going from containment to mitigation Because capacity isnt large enoughYes on the one hand the government may have dropped the ball on many aspectsBut you also cant force people to become doctors and physicians so you have capacity And its not necessarily reasonable to build massive hospitals that stay empty for the majority of the time waiting for the off chance a pandemic occurs once every 50100 years|1 I dunno if they were already sick mateStory herehttps7newscomaulifestylehealthwellbeingholidayspotrevealedasaustraliaslargestcoronavirusclusterc744577One of the party left and flew back to Australia She was only tested on arrival in Oz and tested positive Thats what prompted them to test the othersWhen you think about it thats pretty consistent with everyone getting it in Colorado and the only reason it was identified was because someone in Australia actually did the testWe also had another guy a GP come back after having spent time in Colorado who was confirmed to have ithttps7newscomaulifestylehealthwellbeingmelbournemedicalclinicclosedasdoctortestspositiveforcoronavirusc733944Sounds to me like Colorado has been a hotbed for a while its just that Aussies are actually getting tested by someone when they get back over here|1 With geniuses like these who needs dumb people|0 And I cant play for free Im an iPhone user|0 US is underrepresented because CDC was refusing to test for so long|0 Im a Chineseliving in WUHANI believe the quarantining measures are effective because most of us havent been out for more than a month |1 He has the money he played the coronavirus simulation there is no better man But seriously as the WHO head you dont need a doctor in medicine but a good hand for the right decision at the right time|1 My fear is that idiots are my main path to get sick Im doing everything possible to protect me and my family but I still need to work|0 He was the best ingame leader for C9 even if he was lacking as a mid laner|1 Thank you Most sensible thing I have read on here in a bit Appreciate the knowledgable insight|1 Except you and I both know the fatality rate is lower than 34 percent Theres a sampling bias where people experiencing severe symptoms are far more likely to be tested than people experiencing mild or no symptoms South korea has taken initiative to test a wide swath of people and their fatality rate is much lower The report counts a total of 7755 cases through March 11 and 60 deaths for a total death rate of 077 That is far lower than the reported death rates in several other countries A major factor in that lower death rate could be the countrys extremely thorough coronavirustesting policies Many milder cases included in South Koreas overall count might not be noticed in countries like the US where testing is more sparsehttpswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronavirusdeathratesbyagesouthkorea|0 At this rate you may want to adjust your plans and book a seat on SpaceX instead|1 The Brilliant Chris Witty is a BTEC Josep Mengele|1 The US logic is no logic Theres no plan no intentionality just incoherent flailing|0 If you are trying to stay updated on the positive news associated with the SARSCov2 epidemicpandemic I suggest you check the Megathread on ranxietyIts continually updated with balanced news and updates free from the sensationalized headlines meant to shock and generate clicks|1 Youre totally right US treats retail and customer service as the bottom of the food chain Its not cool and very ingrained in people|0 Oh gosh wasnt it like 40 yesterday|0 This is true People with immunity will be a valuable resourceWhen antibody tests roll out will they be sensitive enough to know if people have had the virus|1 I dont think anybody deserves the virus but I do think it needs to be contained but the way the government is treating you is crazy|0 well i live in Italy so i understand your concern when i went to my therapist last week she was prepared open windows and wiping all surfaces with alcohol between each client maybe ask them if theyre taking preventive measures against the virus its important to keep up with therapy in these scary times|1 Hello Reddit friendNo need to worry about your sellers in AliExpress the main epidemic situation is only in wuhan which is under control The government is actively taking many measures to spread it|0 Isnt the uncontrolled growth rate around 35 or doubling every 25 days That would be in 15 days for simplicity 64x|0 Thats a really weaselly way of still trying to blame the Chinese people SOME people anywhere are irresponsible but in no way do we blame the people in general in those areas for thatBlame the authorities stop trying to pin it on the general Chinese populace any way you can|0 We have an exchange student and her mother came to visit December 22nd She was supposed to fly back February 3rd but cancelled her flight almost 2 weeks ago stating if she flew back into Shanghai she wouldnt be able to go home due to quarantine She now has an open ticket with airline and no idea on when shes flying back|0 The equipment the acutal physical devices batteries etc used was the same as designed for nicotine vaping Nicotine vaping uses liquid based on vegetable glycerin andor propylene glycol these liquids are used by millions of vapers without problem excepting some with specific allergiesThe problem appeared when people wanted to vape marijuana so they filled the vaping cartridges with THC oil and some idiots used vitamin C acetate as a diluent for the THC apparently some of these cartridges were made in china others were filled by US pot dispensaries The acetate is either nonsoluable or reacts badly with the lungs Im not sure of the exact mecanism but it shouldnt be inhaled and normally isnt an ingredient in vaping liquid It certainly isnt used by any legitimate western liquid producers|1 Theyre just gearing us up for real life Hunger Gameshosted by Ellen|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 40 of nurses have children Close schools or lose almost half the nurses Pick your poison|0 National guard will be in full force The military will be deployed to help our police|1 I just bought a Ryzen 9 desktop and Im on an electric vehicle plan that costs about 006kWh from midnight to 4am and also get good solar power while the sun is out Time to put it to good use|1 Seriously Have you read about UK Sweden and Australia This is a global response issue not just the US Or how about China who imprisoned or killed whistleblowers when the virus just started|0 This is what leadership looks like|1 its not about the pandemic Its about the economic collapse that the pandemic is going to cause|0 When did China revolt Venezuela is in the midst Unfortunately the us keeps propping up the military there so doesnt help You naked a few but forgetting all the places it was success Wasnt America funded on a revolution Keyboard warriors dont need to fight They need to enthrall the masses Cut off tour Media presence and reduce your capital to nill Thats how you turn the tides Not with violence With intelligence|1 I ditched the main coronavirus sub for the same reason there is a lot of karmawhoring and fear mongering disaster porn in there A bunch of posts from untrustworthy news sources as well its best to be avoided|0 Why do so many people not have imaginations You have to draw a basic diagram to demonstrate what should be obvious potential outcomes Scary|0 Youre not being unreasonable The standard advice everywhere is for people to stay at home whenever possible and to increase social distancing Your housemates and their buddies are being very irresponsible|0 That sounds precisely like upper management have been goofing off and arent holding up their end of the bargain Im currently telecommuting as well and when I hop on reddit that means Im in a meeting When Im not in meetings I am able to concentrate much better and get stuff done than when Im in the office|1 i dont think this is a Dallas thing Trump forced everyone home and there is no infrastructure to get these people connectedback|0 great out bacon doesnt have African swine flu like China|1 Even if they just gave credits to be used at a later time|1 Just imagine if this happens in the United States every day the markets will be destroyed by this and people will be paniciking I will remain steady but other people probally will not|0 They cant test everybody so only going by confirmed cases sadly is not giving us the full picture Your calculation is good for an ideal scenario where every infected case is tested and confirmed when in reality we have no idea if and how many more people may be infected but are barely affected by it|0 lol bitcoin|1 Do you have any sources on Thailand banning local reporting I havent heard thatThe picture is bleak across the less developed world Barring extreme good fortune that somehow makes these countries less susceptible heat and humidity some are hoping I see hundreds of early December Wuhan situations brewing across the globe|1 yes doing nothing that has some payoff has civil service written all over it however certain over 60 retirees are more equal than others and will be protected|1 Thats not how allocations work Congress decides who gets what The President can only reprogram funds as allowed by law The administration had to go to the Supreme Court before they could reprogram DOD funds to build the wall They won but that does not mean theyd win any arbitrary attempt to move money aroundinto CDC|0 Saved the article for future reference Ill read through some of it later Interesting stuff I have a few general questions about coronavirus structure Given the spherical morphology of the virion can it bind ACE2 in almost any orientation Does the relative abundance of these spike proteins present a challenge for antibodymediated neutralization antiviral activity or vaccine development Can the spike proteins be downregulated in response to host defense Also it would be interesting to see whether ACE2 is downregulated in host cells|1 Calm the fuck down Im not being cavalier Read what I wrote again There is no need to panic Panicking is not going to help anything In fact stress lowers your immune system so youre more likely to catch the virus if youre freaking out I said I expect that there is a lot going on behind the scenes we dont know about Probably a lot of nonemergency surgeries are being cancelled and rooms being revamped ready for more inpatients Again Im scared as well and I have an autoimmune disease so I have more reason to be scared than you do I think But there is no need to panic or to engage in hyperbolic ranting right now If you want to do something write to your MPP and complain about the state of healthcare and demand better for Canadians But stay calm Take a deep breath Were going to get through this|0 notmypresidentGood thing is my friend is in government and tells me they just work around the very stable genius|1 Of course But its a bit unfortunate that you have to belong to a special group to get what should be standard treatment Glad they did it Wish they would do more|1 Lived in Caracas during an attempted coup Grocery store shelves were empty for days maybe it was a week First items to return were boxes of corn flakes|0 Not to even mention no work no health insurance if youre lucky enough to have that I stop going to work out of fear of infecting others never mind myself Im up shits creek if I actually do get sickA vicious Catch22 that will lead to many people dying unnecessarily|0 Breaking News Coronavirus declares Fox News a crisis in abrupt common sense|0 Youre a dumbass|0 I understand this is not the position you want to be in but thank you You are making a difference that will never be fully appreciated|0 Ah okay So I can take a picture of anyone whose behaviour I dont approve of post it online and call for harassmentviolence against them Good to knowThe Americans are now saying that the virus problem will go well into July and August So maybe these people had the right idea after all|1 Its the same trend exponential growth but a smaller percentage of the actual infected people reported for the US vs SKorea It just appears as if we are lagging a little more than we actually are|0 I agree with that and found the interview on the Marr show very unconvincing|1 In italy there is no mask anywhere|0 Ahwe have our own wellso no problem there Cat Litter and such is important We need to source worms for our two headed turtledifficult with a worldwide meal worm shortage since early last year|0 Paying for beds isnt going to be the problem|0 My Nan is currently calling it a mild flu now Because she heard someone on TV say it was therefore it must be trueI cant keep arguing with her I honestly thought eventually the government would step up and take action Shell listen to them and sadly she IS listening to them shes going to kill herself over this I know it she wont listen to me and Im so tired of repeating myself when all she needs to do is point out what fucking Boris and his cronies have said Its just a mild flu What about all the people dying What about all the reports from other countries Well thats just your opinion for fuck sake it isnt a matter of opinion|0 E3 isnt until June it wouldnt get cancelled because of the coronavirus It got cancelled because all the major developers and publishers have slowly been pulling out over the past few years and theres not enough things happening at the event or interest in it to warrant it continuing any further|1 Yeah or theyre weak from starvation and zooapocalypse buffet nowjk wet markets are disgusting|0 Im sure it has been effective but that effective Im really worried about an uptick mid March If there is an uptick Im not going to be upset with them My understanding of it was that all this social distancing was an attempt to at least pump the brakes on this thing|1 but they are terrible at coordination administration and service delivery thats where leadership is supposed to fill in|0 Tell that to those that didnt give a shit about COVID for months|1 No even if its just as deadly as the flu itll be so much worse But from all the data we have its deadlier than the flu so things could get very very bad indeed once we lose containment|0 Keep trying until they relent It took one guy 17 phone calls and 35 hrs on hold to get tested He was positive|1 lol and this is the same government that was shitting on the Chinese government just a few months ago for with holding information and not being transparent about their numbers Hilarious|1 Its never too lateQuarantine and lockdown for 14days can still help to stop virus spread|1 Yes|1 The silver lining is that Trumps trade war over the past 3 years has led to many companies diversifying their supply chains So even though there will be a lot of pain it wont be as bad as it would have been if this happened 3 years ago|0 Thank you I hope they will|1 I mean some stuff is subjective other stuff like claims of 15 mortality rate is just outright falsehoods For me the worst case of misinformation has been around the gov plan with lots of users claiming they actively want to infect people and are aiming for 60 infection ASAP when thats simply not true and never was Although thats partly down to poor communication from the government its been an uphill battle to get the truth to stick around here the past few days|0 All these socialist nationalist Republicans are a bit worrying hereAnd since half their base believes it fake news they will vote far more than liberals giving us all 3 branches of government in the R sideInteresting times going hard right|0 It will be quiet until its not Just takes one severe patient to infect an entire hospital I believe this is the primary source of the quick spikes in deaths|0 It is because you are the guy who got out of the cave httpsyoutubeSWlUKJIMge4They will eventually learn it the hard way Save your energy|1 And there really is nothing that can be done about that In any kind of outbreak like this you have to make hard choices between those more likely to survive those that are in a productive age or parents and that is really it At this level you lose your humanity you become a statistic Hate me for saying that but reality doest care about feelings|1 I agree with you They are very concerned about the economy and keeping things moving the stock market has already taken a hit Its all about to crash|0 Isolation and quarantine are two different things You isolate healthy people you quarantine sick people bill does not pay for self isolation in general|0 What the hell this is so ridiculous|0 Hopefully they got plenty of toilet paper and pairs of pants|1 Despite an outbreak of the Crohna virus there are simple methods that can limit the spread of infection in such a horrific way in the early stages of infection|0 In practical terms the two are linked anyway In one direction because getting a pandemic is going to kill the stock market so stock market fans are motivated to avoid a pandemic In the other direction because the health of the people needs money to pay for sanitation and public health and in the UK the National Health Service so you need a healthy stock market to have a healthy populationIf you want to get really cynical notice that many plans to improve public health were motivated by the military finding out that the soldiers they were recruiting or drafting were not healthy enough to be good soldiers Im a fan of this because I have a grudge against myopia and myopia research is happening mostly in far east countries who have realised that short sighted soldiers arent good shots|1 Well fuck|0 There isnt any truth to that I often discuss politics with my friends over a beer at void deck coffeeshops and many of them in my millennial generation are quite staunchly antiPAP PAP is the incumbent partyLast I checked all of them still exist and are out of jail and going to work everyday as usualTaxi drivers in Singapore are a fucking meme No idea why but a good number of them are basically conspiratorial Alex Jones types but Singaporean Maybe having to engage in small talk for 8 hours a day eventually drives them insane or something I even had one tell me that I must get a ethnic Chinese bride for racial purity when I told him Ive been living mostly in the US for a few years while only visiting SG a month or two every year Yeah|1 As of 317 the death rate has increased to about 1 Another factor is how the age distribution skews young due to the Shincheonji religious group As of March 2nd out of 4131 cases in Korea 3409 were under the age of 60 In fact theres a massive spike in age distribution between 2029 over 1200 of the infected That could have a lot to do with the high survival rates|0 Stupid claim anyways most people spread it indoors where its nice and temperate|0 Thank God I was really curious about it|1 Not like the doctors in my area can even test for it or would be willing to They dont test for anything but the flu so Id I were to go in Id be sent out with some seasonal virus and be told to take OTC meds|0 Thank you I got it two people who died with the COVID 19 were moved to the psychiatric ward for the funeral Those at the funeral caught the COVID19 as the virus is still contagious Without the whole read it didnt fully make sense the psychiatric dept is a totally different dept Not a good idea to have a funeral in the hospital with an open casket or body bags Thank You again|0 seriouslythats nuts|0 What is wrong with Alberta Whats it going to take|0 But Why Is it not real I tried to post it and it was blocked|0 35k a year is about 3k per month Assuming you spend half of your income on housing what are you renting in NYC for 1500 And half of your income on housing would definitely be a paycheck to paycheck situation Maybe you have a rent controlled unitIm not saying youre wrong just curious|1 Also it is not like those younger people will recover and sprint into a marathon immediatly As is reported in other threads there is a risk for permnent lung scarring And even if you dont get scarring a pneumonia can kick you down for a couple of months|0 My elderly neighbor doesnt know how to use the internet basically Now I can help her you not you personally you generally can help your neighbor but this isnt sustainable and given that until friday I was riding public transit probably not advisable One of the next big steps the government will need to figure out is how to get food and prescription medications to people who dont know how to use the internet and are generally easily confused and in a tizzy|1 Mods please revise this message Come on|1 Yes because everyone who says this virus probably isnt going to end humanity is obviously being paid by the CCP Of course|1 Yeah people really dont realize how serious it is Unlikely doesnt mean impossible and I realized that getting drunk with friends isnt worth my life|1 World War I claimed an estimated 16 million lives The influenza epidemic that swept the world in 1918 killed an estimated 50 million people One fifth of the worlds population was attacked by this deadly virus Within months it had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history50 vs 16 Just prepare for war right|0 Good luck and stay safe|1 and on to the next assignment where we point these infected mics at government officials who are above being tested|0 Please be calm I am staying in It seems to be airborn and if I have it after my very limited shopping trips in the middle of nowhere it really is everywhere If I go anywhere yes I will cover my face promise|1 taiwanese here parents in houston dont know how ready they are for it but theyve been only going back and forth between work and home and groceries for the past 2 months nowx200BHopefully theyre ok but well see They are as ready as theyll ever be At a certain point I need to trust my parents to protect themselves though Im strongly considering just taking a few weeks to drive from jersey and make sure theyre enforcing proper procedurex200Bshort of full hazmat that is|1 many people assume its cytokine storm just like wuhan people drop dead from that|0 That would be awesome|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 What the fuck Source|0 How much is a drop and whats a gallon|0 Fair enough I see your point Id also say that in a country the size of ours the difference between 32 and 400 tests is not even worth quibbling about|1 Ive heard of people fighting over toilet paper and getting arrested In the meantime our local stores have had their shelves cleaned out due to people panicbuying My husband could barely do normal grocery shopping last Friday we were running low on bread and he sent me photos of empty shelves and cases instead I was totally shocked|0 Ya perhaps I should have said the CA government and the local NorCal governments seem to be taking it seriously SF was I believe the first locality to declare a state of emergency Many schools are closed now and lots of companies working from home where possible|0 So selfish Because its ok if retirees lose their life savings|0 Kids are definitely getting it and there have been deaths You should take your daughter in or at least call the hospital|1 Technically it was part of the NSC Rear Adm Timothy Ziemer left as head of the task force which was created to oversee the global response to ebola He quit when Bolton came on board The budget cuts were proposed but not implemented but instead the budgets have been increased|1 I wonder if I start showing symptoms should I just lie and say I know someone with COVID19 and had close contact with them Or maybe I just flew back from Italy or something Seems like getting tested is impossible otherwise|1 For sure I truly wish you the best and hope that it is not connectedsomething you can get over Maybe its a sinus infection I had similar side effects from a sinus infection a few months back it was brutal|1 Arent they smart|0 Do you have a source for the Italy prediction Thats really interesting|1 The nowofficial pandemic situation is calling for exceptions to that rule and with Polis having declared the state of emergency I believe it grants him the power to enact those exceptions and loosen certain regulations|1 Thanks Fingers got ahead of brain there made sense after I hit post|1 Yes please Im interested to hear your opinion|1 So basically the same problem that cruise ships have|0 I mean the reason is plainly stated most likely cardiac arrest|0 Way to go New YorkWell see a jump in cases but thatll be good because numbers will be closer to actual This is awesome|1 I thought it was important to show the broader trend in the rate of growth for the sake of perspective These numbers are based on the official Chinese reports of confirmed infections which many believe to be underreported It appears that the fairly drastic containment measures taken by China are paying off Growth Rate per 24 Hours Jan 16 12 Jan 17 38 Jan 18 91 Jan 19 62 Jan 20 47 Jan 21 51 Jan 22 31 Jan 23 45 Jan 24 56 Jan 25 53 Jan 26 39 Jan 27 64 Jan 28 34 Jan 29 28 Jan 30 25 Jan 31 22 Feb 1 22 Feb 2 20 Feb 3 19 Feb 4 Feb 5 23 Feb 6 19 Feb 7 15 Feb 8 8 Whenif negative growth is achieved that will mean the virus is being erradicated IMO this is the most important number being reported so I really value these threads|1 I saw the announcement it wasnt what everyone here is sayingThey said they are going to flatten the curve and delay so their system does not get overloaded and they can treat everyone They dont want an Italy scenarioHowever they say they are aware that pulling the brakes on society has its limits and they want to get the timing perfect so people dont get fatigued and ignore the advice|1 China produce raw materials Like what China is a net importer of raw materials the only export I can think of that is the raw material would be rare earth|1 Hope nobody leaves any bats in the punch bowl|1 Translation Brazil guides to avoid trips to ChinaPublished Tuesday 28 January 2020 13h54 Last updated on Tuesday 28 January 2020 1948With the increase in the global alert level the Ministry of Health will ask the states to update contingency plans At the moment a suspected case of the new coronavirus is being monitored in the city of Belo HorizonteWith the increase in the alert level by the World Health Organization WHO to high in relation to the global risk of the new coronavirus the Ministry of Health advises that trips to China should be made in cases of extreme need The recommendation is part of the guidelines published in the new epidemiological bulletin of the Ministry of Health updated this Tuesday 28 with information for surveillance and assistance from the public health network With almost 3000 confirmed cases according to the latest WHO bulletin the entire Chinese territory is now considered an area of active transmission of the disease Thus people coming from this location in the last 14 days and who have fever and respiratory symptoms can be considered suspect casesIn a press conference held in Braslia DF this Tuesday 28 the Minister of Health Luiz Henrique Mandetta reinforced the orientation of the portfolio so that people are cautious when traveling We advise against and do not prohibit travel to China It is not yet known what is the characteristic of this virus which is new we know that it has high lethality It is not recommended that the person be exposed to such a situation and then return to Brazil and expose more people We recommend that if it is not necessary that no trips be made until the whole picture is well defined highlighted the Minister of HealthUntil the publication of the bulletin on Tuesday 28 a suspected case of the new coronavirus in China is being monitored by the Ministry of Health in Belo Horizonte MG The patient a student showed symptoms of the disease and has a history of traveling to Wuhan China the epicenter of the cases Thus the picture fits the definition of a suspected case for the new coronavirus The patient is being treated in isolation and is in good health Laboratory tests are being carried out to identify or not the virusThe Minister of Health Luiz Henrique Mandetta stressed that Brazil is prepared to provide the best assistance needed for the population We have a robust surveillance system admittedly robust which has already gone through three very intense moments SARS Influenza and Zika On all occasions our health system responded very well said the minister We will wait for what science will bring It is useless to anticipate the reality of China is one but we have to observe how this virus will behave in other countries in other cultures because this is not yet clear concluded the Minister of HealthBrazil has the capacity to carry out genetic testing to confirm the new coronavirus The specific laboratory diagnosis for the disease includes techniques for detecting the viral genome and in Brazil the tests will be carried out by reference laboratories of the Ministry of Health such as the Oswaldo Cruz Foundation FiocruzRJ the Adolfo Lutz Institute and the Evandro Institute Chagas IECThe Health Surveillance Secretary of the Ministry of Health Wanderson de Oliveira reinforced that the portfolio together with states and municipalities has the capacity to act in the possibility of a suspected case of the disease The protocol is being followed using as an experience a legacy of our health system that is robust We have tests for influenza for other respiratory viruses Brazil is the only country in the southern hemisphere with an influenza vaccine factory We monitor all respiratory viruses which we call sentinel surveillance for flu syndrome in addition to assessing mutations Brazil has central laboratories in all states in Brazil that are trained said the secretaryTo support health professionals the epidemiological bulletin also provides guidance in all areas of operation of the Unified Health System SUS in addition to making clear the definition of suspected probable confirmed and discarded casesThe Minister of Health Luiz Henrique Mandetta untied even which hygiene actions the population can follow as a preventive measure Washing your hands avoiding sneezing and coughing without protecting the person in front of you avoid touching the eyes nose mouth and avoid touching people who are sick can prevent it In addition it is always good to stay home if you are sick so as not to expose other people These are typical virus prevention guidelines said the Minister of Health|0 I agree with some caveats 1 700 is not a huge population for statistical purposes 2 There are still 34 seriouscritical cases in the Diamond Princess so the death toll could rise For the world as a whole 1 of 20 is 14 million deaths Its not the Spanish flu but still pretty bad|0 We will find out how correct this numbers are in about one month Lets hope they made mistakes in those calculations|1 BBC BIG BLACK COCK|0 the coronavirus is already on senegal nigeria sudan algeria egypt morocco south africa new zealand netherlands russia poland is a weird mix of different weathers sorry for the copypaste but seems that people are ignoring the african continent as usual|0 Seriously though I think it was probably obvious to them too at least to the scientistsnonpoliticians But unfortunately political and economic pressure took priority over public health Per usual|0 Well I mean the WHO is also part of the lab this thing likely leaked from so underselling it is to their benefit as well|1 The problem is doors recirculated air elevatorsbuttons meal trays railingsetcx200BEven if you avoid people theres absolutely no way of knowing whether the thing youre touching is contaminated I dont think they know yet how long this virus survives on inanimate objects to my knowledge|0 Tagging all the poor brides who have been on here asking if they should cancel|0 Is avoiding Chinese restraunts during the early part of the outbreak really that racist if you consider that they likely employ a decent amount of Chinese staff many of whom could have gone to China for Chinese New YearEspecially if you can be infected by someone with no known symptomsPurposefully avoiding someone Chinese who you know hasnt travelled anywhere or came into contact with anyone is racist but typically customers dont have a clue about who is employed by a random restraunt they visit|0 Chinese have compromised immune systems in cities The pollution is extreme and smoking is common 12 year olds have gotten lung cancer in Shanghai when their parents are nonsmokers|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Whats insane is that this doesnt help anyone in Wall Street either|0 That could go darkly ironic|0 no point to blame people not following rules when your enforcement is a piece of shit|0 I have made a threadhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfear52adviceforukuniversitystudentsclosuresexams for advice for UK university students here and have shared your petition there also|1 They are lying because the numbers are worse than people could imagine If people knew the truth the shelves in every store worldwide would have been long since cleaned out|0 I went once with my cousins when we all turned 21 and we pretty much went on a week long bender It was really fun but Im sure the physical toll on my body aged me a few years|1 Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few|1 this hurts my heart that this is happeningI hope that we beat this and get better soon our schools and work and other places will start to closeI love you worldpray to god that we all can beat this|1 3M CEOs must be bathing in money by nowTo be fair their stuff is always top quality so I guess its deserved|1 Sad|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Really wishing the best for you hope that you have adequate support during this time You said your partner has to work but are you getting enough help with things while hes outHopefully the government will close the schools soon In the meantime is it possible for you to just pull them out of school|1 This news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rChinaFlu reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 You are right The idea of economical collapse and starvation made me upset Im sorry|0 Actually no If I get the symptoms Im not getting the test Im already quarantined and Ill self monitor if I need more care and hope I can get it It is what it is and will be what it will be|1 Well Singapore they country i live in distributed a 4 masks for each family so atleast if you are suspected of the virus you can travel to the hospital without endangering others while in transport to thereOtherwise clinics that give out medical certificates still give masks to ensure that you sont spread similar symtopms to others thus reducing panic in a communityIt is a huge expense but atleast for our goverment it is a message to explain that we are trying to ensure safety please stay calm brav|1 Really recommend getting outside in nature Theres so little risk to being in leafy green places where there arent many people around But the boost to your mental health can be so huge Its great to be reminded that no matter what happens with the virus and in the news nature carries on being and the world goes on|1 Maybe a billionaire reading this will cancel your debt and we can read about you on rupliftingnews s Im sorry|0 Well this is not America|1 The UK is already a joke so this is fitting|1 Hell no|0 Because normal people are part of a panic subreddit lol|0 Psychologists in my Canadian health centre are still being told to do face to face therapy in tiny offices with patients I get that mental health is essential right now but why not phone therapy or video Administration does not care|0 Yet my employee health said you cant get the virus from someone who doesnt have symptoms I work in a freaking hospital|0 OMFG This isnt Boris its epidemiological experts Its not comparable to China or the US where they were ignoring experts Boris is making pretty much zero decisions its the leading UK experts who areAre you seriously calling epidemiologist experts facist monsters what dumb thing to call them This sub is giving me an aneurysm with dumb uninformed shit like this|0 There are many differences between the situations in Italy and China1 Demographic composition of the populace2 Population density3 The ability of the government to control its people The more authoritative it is the more conducive it is to effective quarantine measures4 Reliance on medical or other suppliesChina is the global center of manufacturing Whatever they need to keep people alive they can just rapidly produce themselves5 The amount of resources spent towards containmentThe Chinese economy was heavily strained and the government invested a lot to prevent the spread beyond Hubei provinceNow Im not really able to estimate how these differences affect the mortality rate and there might be more nuances Im not aware ofBut I think that its unreasonable to use this coverup narrative as the only explanation of the disparity of outcomes|1 This Japanese site has ithttpscoronaviruskoudaitourcomFirst click on the tab on the top right Then check out the second row of info Currently 705 infected 6 dead 1 recoveredA less than 1 CFR is encouraging considering the average age of passengers on UK cruises is 55 But it could still rise over the next three weeks or so Would be great to see many more recoveries|1 Thats why its 150 a pint After the beer goggles have got into focus they are some gorgeous lasses|1 I am an Immunocompromised Ancillary Employee of a Southern California Hospital in the same office as the team conducting COVID19 clinical trial and I am not allowed to work from home advice 32 yo with chronic leukopenia MGUS and elevated anti DS DNA not proven lupus working at a hospital cancer center research department We share office space with the nursing team who consents covid19 patients they say they do not enter specific patient rooms but stand outside the door while floor nurse gives the patient paperwork Hospital HR says I can get my oncologist to sign me out on medical leave BUT oncologist is so busy that I cant get through to a live person for the last 2 days do I skip work and just weather the loss of pay attempt to use remaining PTO wait it out for response from oncology or ask for unpaid personal leave in hopes that once I finally get through to my oncologist they can retro act the medical leave|0 Good thing I bought mine weeks ago when the people working cash laughed at me lol|1 Start a modern historic plague from a wet market Oh wait ya we didnt start it lol|0 They have special wipes for electronics|1 Gives me something to hope for|1 Youve seen the difference and its getting better all the time|1 Im probably way too late but the doctor thats the head doctor of disease control and communicable diseases for the municipality says this Longva trur heller ikkje personen som var p konserten i Molde kan ha smitta veldig mange men helsepersonell som var p konserten m likevel halde seg heime fr jobb til dei er sikre p at dei ikkje er smitta av viruset Translation Longva does not believe that the person attending the concert could have infected that many not referring to the 100 quote from Dagbladet but health personnel that attended the concert is placed under home quarantine untill theyre certain theyre not infected Source httpswwwnrknomrkoronasmittaimolde114927393 To add to this the doctor quoting over a hundred is the head doctor in the municipality but not in charge of disease control Its also Dagbladet which is a very sensationalist news paper which I would ranked as one of the lowest trusted news papers in Norway Nrk although state owned is widely regarded as the best source for news|1 Racist piece of shit|0 And here I was thinking that the only thing proven by this virus is money happens to be worth more than a life Fuck everyone dying lets worry about the stock markets instead|0 We had a normal day here in Florida at a local drivein movie theatre It was like any other night The laughs I got for wearing gloves made me feel bad about the person that was in the car that probably hadnt been taking any precautions I had sanitizer on the booth but still it was unsettling|1 Viva la revolution Those who suppress science do not deserve to be our leader and quite possibly do not deserve to share our world with us anymore|0 Nice|1 I asked if we were safe and he said yes but I dont feel so sure the patient said There is another gentleman across from me coughing and sneezing like crazy|1 I loved him in Too Many Cooks|1 Thank you You seem a little lacking in reddit culture New|1 Relax for Gods sake We all know one of these idiots will be a redneck that tries to kill someone and the whole thing will fall apart in the second season TOPS|1 I was thinking the same thing I would like it to go to service personnel and others impacted by this At this time Im working from home but I am working|1 There is testing being done in Ottawa two potential were tested Sunday Source friends who register patients in one of Ottawas major hospitals|1 NOBODY is taking this serious|0 Was there ever any doubt|0 More like relapsed Reinfection is unlikely if not impossible in Wuhan These cases are almost certainly relapses|1 But is it He sounded fine in his social media post His son posted a video saying that Tom Hanks is barely sick and feels fine and that they are not worried at allWhat I think will happen is that he will be totally fine recover quickly and people who thought this was no big deal will say I told you so It will just reinforce the opinions that this is nothing more than a cold or flu|0 PS In my own preparation for the potential scarcity of resources that may develop over the next few months I have absolutely stockpiled several antiviral plants that have been clinically proven to combat known coronavirus variants There are a handful that are known to work if used and prepared properlyThink of it this way Plants literally live in the dirt and have little to no mobility As such many have evolved antibacterials antifungals antivirals and insecticidal compounds to protect themselvesPlants are in many ways tiny chemical factories Sometimes the compounds they produce are nutritious to us food sometimes they are harmful to us poisons and sometimes they are to some degree inert to us humans but harmful to microbes medicine Compounds like caffeine codeine morphine and nicotine are actually insecticidal from the plants perspective Compounds like Penicillin are antibacterialI think you can agree that these compounds exist and are medically usefulThere are so many more including many antivirals The irony here is that there are numerous plant derived antivirals that exist and are freely available nowIn a scenario where medical experts literally have nothing else to offer these known antivirals that you want to ban discussion of are probably the most viable choice of an actual working defense against this new coronavirus at least for the time beingBut hey lets not talk about it because you dont know what your talking about |1 I suspect they would not investigate much further if you tested clean|1 Pasta stores well is easy to cook is the cheapest food product by the pound|1 I really believe that Chinas pollution is a BIG factor of a lot of the deaths caused by corona Lung issuesshitty air no Bueo moment|0 You know what sucks is I smoke and have 14 Japanese genes so Ill definitely die if I get it Ill fucking DIEEEEEEE|0 I am genuinely worried for my American friends|1 This is my same response when people say the flu bullshit When was the last flu season 100 million people were quarantined How about entire cruise ships Etc etc etc How anyone can simply write this off as the normal flu is beyond my comprehension|0 im in Canada if i get seriously ill from this im fucked all our hospitals were already over 100 capacity with patients sleeping on gurneys in the hallways before the virus and the government has done absolutely nothing to stop or slowdown the virus im just saying in a disaster like this i want everyone who wants to help to help i dont want government stopping the private market from helping but unfortunately thats exactly what the Canadian government does|0 Good observation|1 Source this sub And Im not bothering to look for it Are you new on this sub Dont you hear the news of the last 20 days|1 Its gonna get worse a lot of companies do not care about their employees well being Im flying all over the country for no reason to hospitals and Im basically non essential|0 No worries Pence and the cult will pray for you and your family We have been teaching Creation in Kansas for a decade now|0 Exactly You said it better than I|1 Doesnt help if the food delivery guy is infected themselves|0 ReeeeeeeeYou can just assume top mind when you see this|1 Yo I was wondering about that Why did the city allow people to be wildn out like that SMH they messed up by letting the bars and clubs stay open I am sure their hospitals already get overwhelmed with the debauchery from the spring breakers the last thing they need to have to turn away other medical services because of dumb spring breakers|0 Wow Best news Ive heard yet|1 Dont trust this Government one iotaTook my children out of school last week|0 Btw spain doubled cases overnight Getting scary now|0 With a 2 mortality rate thats 10500 infected currently|0 confusing behavior|0 Realistically no It could kill 22 million people assuming nobody in the US even knew about the existance of nCoV19 but really not otherwise Still drastic change is crucial The way things are going right now is very bad|0 Are you a Republican by chance Not at all asking to bait you my in laws and several Republican friends were convinced this was a media lie and kept comparing it to climate change Im fairly nonpolitical and definitely nonpartisan and just wondered whether that was at the root of initial denial|1 Kept em low and loose|0 In this scenario if the god damn band just shut the fuck up and everyone went to their fucking rooms the ship would stop sinking|0 Wake up This is because there are no Homeland security there Where are they headline news on Sunday well maybe Monday|1 Much appreciated|1 Whats wrong about this |0 YouTube would be flooded with doctors describing the state of their hospitals if this was true andor widespread Is that the case I havent seen any myself|1 Perhaps your wipes have a claim on the label that states whether they kill specific pathogens like MRSA norovirus or SARS Mine do Manufacturers have to go through testing to make these claims and so they make full use of that status controlled process to prevent false claims There will be a registration associated with that|0 I believe the odds of you dying are still tiny despite your conditions Think about how many young people in Wuhan must have been Asthmatic with the abyssmal levels of pollution there still the CFR rate was only 02 in this age group and thats only taking into account the detected cases Regarding your mother see Im extremely worried about my parents as well I cant guarantee that your mom will pull through BUT odds still are heavily in her favor probably 95 at least and thats only IF she catches it And she might very well not if she is being careful|1 Since we cannot be responsible for your health asking for or providing medical advice violates the rules of rCoronavirusIf you need general information please refer to the CDCs website httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutIf you need more specific medical advice please contact a qualified medical professional in your area|0 Also viral pneumonias arent atypical think influenza Virulence of the pathogen is also unlikely to be related to its severitySeasonal influenza very rarely causes viral pneumonia The vast majority is through secondary bacterial coinfections Pandemic influenza has a higher rate of viral pneumonia but that is due to the virulence of the strains themselves Im not sure what you mean when you say that the virulence is unlikely to be related to the severity I assume you mean severity of the pneumonia More virulent flu has a higher propensity to cause pneumonia be that primarily or secondarily through bacterial coinfection I dont think you can divorce the two concepts|0 when they said There is NO nuclear situation at pickering all i could think was uh had a slight weapons malfunction but were all fine here now thank you how are you|1 Most homeless arent homeless because theyre literally too poor to afford a place to live Section 8 housing exists In most cases its caused by mental illness or drug addiction and last time we tried giving the mentally ill a place to stay yeah|0 He IS an arrogant prick|0 Its fucking bullshit honestly Im sick of it Its always a low risk situation until its not|0 What theYes youre probably right about her flight Hopefully she takes it seriously once her vacation is canceled|1 Nothing It just gives the government special powers Mainly allocating money|1 It takes 12 weeks from risky behavior to ensure test accuracy of 99 Little point in getting tested before that Not sure to what extent someone positive may pass it on during that time|1 Im sure there were a bunch of medieval peasants with bubones in their armpits spewing out bile while people tried to convince them the flu killed more people in 1346|0 My dad was a drug addict sharing a needle with an uncle of all people In the 80 as wellHas your father been told to take precautions If so do you know what they are Besides the obvious of washing your hands and the basic stuff I will try my best to update the thread if anything changes Thank you|1 Were going to enter a recession Right now its looking to be worse than 2008 Nobody is going to give a fuck about credit scores after this for a while All they will care about is if youre employed If you are youll get sold a house offered a contract to rent Really simple I say this as someone whos parents are landlords over forty properties They are credit to them accepting delayed payments|0 If Im reading the CDCs site correctly it looks like the CFR outside Wuhan is closer to 7 than the 23 that has everyone panicking here in the Bay Area anyway 1 Why isnt this much lower and more reassuring number getting more media attention 2 Does the 7 CFR include an estimate of the asymptomatic subclinical infections Does the flus 1 CFR include asymptomatic subclinical infections That is are the people who are panicking comparing apples to oranges in addition to having the wrong numbers to begin with 3 Whats being done to combat deliberate disinformation here on Reddit and in the media What can I do to help get rid of deliberate disinformation Eg someone posted in rbayarea Paul Cottrells fearrumor mongering claim that FEMA was planning to quarantine the entire NorCal area|0 Might be a bit extreme to some but as someone in Asia i wish our government would do the same|1 streets aheadDoes it just mean cool or miles ahead|1 Wrong Viral pneumonia is often accompanied with secondary infections with bacteria|0 The masks truly are ineffective See my other comment replying to this post|1 Tests are free if performed by a govt lab Since capacity is limited people who want need test with a lower chance of having it have to deal with private labs who do cost money|1 Most 60 upyear olds have to go to work every day cannot just hide for Six months would probably get thrombosis or something from sitting about too much|1 I think the fact the rate of increasing deaths keeps going down is the most significant part 25 increase today vs 29 yesterday As people have said tests could be bottlenecked but deaths are more likely to be up to date so the fact that their rate of increase is declining in percentage terms is a good sign|1 because he was on a ship which as far as we can deduce from diamond princess are virus incubators and therefore the amount of people who are asymptomatic yet still potential carriers because of their exposure on the ship are unknown they should be subjected to mandatory quarantine based on their elevated risk to the public|1 Nobody here is a doctor so if you want actual advice you should probably ask one Preferably hersExercise regulating sodium intake cutting off meat and good sleep are always good things though|1 Yup maybe the CDC was pressured or told not to test people Deliberately fudging to protect the economy Perhaps in couple of months well have another whistleblower situation|1 That sounds ominously like the Spanish flu which could kill you in a day easy back in the WW1 era|0 Huh Stop putting words in my mouth bud All Im saying is a lot of your comments I see are trashing how the USA is handling the virus yet the UK really isnt doing anything much more than them And fuck you for thinking Id wish harm on your loved ones|0 Having never had the flu and only a cold every 45 yrs I am not looking forward to getting corona I dont want to experience any flu if I can avoid it|1 That was done by multiple monarchies later on I wouldnt say that US was a proper democracy until XXth century thats what I was comparing communist governments to Approximately 23 of the US population couldnt vote at all for over a century since its conceptionBut yeah touche you do have a partial point there|1 For what its worth my boyfriend and I just travelled internationally and came back sick Went to get tested for the flu negative twice Received a shrug and a Tamiflu prescription|0 Good for the percentage rate horrible in terms of actual numbers|0 Gotcha But I agree its just a matter of how extensive the testing is over the next couple weeks|1 It is a shitty thing to say for sure But when you are scared and trying to hold on to hope people say stuff like this to make themselves feel better I dont think it is personal Shitty but not personal|0 Thats the ultimate karmic reality The Tories are letting it spread which will kill their voter base and the economy is tanking on them Im in the disabled category and have to go for regular work capability assessments If it wasnt for my son Id have killed myself years ago Knowing he has autism and will have to face all this himself when he is such a kind kid is heartbreaking I dont want them to make him suffer because hes kind |0 This article gives options on how you can make your own masks That is why I posted it If you click through a woman made a pattern for a face mask you can sew at home I dont see why a group effort of this type cant be promoted by the government yes the medical masks are in short supply But why not make your own out of a freaking tshirt and possibly reduce your rate of infection by 50 I think when this is all over governments will be held accountable for not giving complete information to keep reduce risks and save lives I think masks dont work messaging will be seen by future generations as criminal negligence by our leaders|0 Oh sweet summer child|1 Could be dead bodies that were not infected by the virus but nobody knows at this point and its better to just burn themJust a theory|1 Growing up in Hawaii ramensaimin as we called it and Spam was my dinner many a night as a kid I dont think its because we were poor or anything it was just something easy and yummy |1 The House impeachment was not a trial It was the investigative phase like when the police investigate a crimeThe trail is what the Senate does thats when and where witnesses are called And we know which side is too afraid for the truth to come out|1 The problem in the US is that we still have a President who does not follow the rule of law and is abusing his power to evade numerous charges of white collar crimes that cannot be pursued against him at this time simply because he is POTUSThat being said it is very possible that he could exploit a fullon lockdown for his own personal benefit by declaring martial law andor canceling the upcoming election which could turn into a disaster|0 Taiwan did ban Chinese flight very early European countries can followed suit very easily but they couldnt give up those sweet sweet tourist money|1 Lol I can always spot the conservative republicans when they are shouting about how nothing is the federal governments fault and how state governments should have all the power What a crock of shit The federal government should be leading the stance on a fucking pandemic The fact that it took 2 months for them to even acknowledge there was an issue and the fact that we still dont have widely available test kits that were promised 2 weeks ago alone is enough proof of the incompetence of this horrible administration States and local governments are the only ones currently doing anything about the issue and its a joke because this is a NATIONAL issue that is affecting every state immigration and the entire economy This should most definitely be a situation the federal government takes control of Especially considering the implications of the virus on the national and world economies You are here saying its not effective to point fingers and yet you are pointing fingers at the State governments and trying to deflect blame on your precious lord all mighty Typical conservative You know what else isnt leadership The president ignoring a pandemic Youre a fucking joke|0 I am curious as to what stories you have heard about Chinese hospitals I heard that many of the hospitals dont even use soap to wash their hands and that some dont even have oxygen on site|1 Im not sure what context youre referring to Are you saying that Iran and Italy got statistically unlucky in their rate of spread|0 I have a friend with an 11 yr old daughter that PROBABLY has it They tested her but wont process it There is a reckoning coming|1 I mean no shit This is a bit of a silly post SARS never became a pandemic the comparisons to the SARS epidemic are over The flu at its peak in 2017 was killing like 15000 people a day worldwide|0 Im suspecting a rubber and effect Almost everyone bought more than they needed because they were afraid they were going to be quarantined for two weeks Once the malaise of the being forced to stay home sets in regular shopping will resume and people will work through their stashes The food industry will over order versus a lower demand after the largest demand in the history of the world and a ton of food is going to expire|0 Thats much better than having all Wuhans at the same timeEdit typo|1 BCs provincial leadership is a disaster Outdated info on websites with no clear plans Dr Henry is trying her best and she looks rattled and overwhelmed trying to give these updates Its just a complete mess Horgan is a terrible leader and all he did was say risk remains low for weeks and did nothing He doesnt seem to be coordinating anything now either I feel really sad for British Columbians Stay strong guys|0 I asked a Chinese person whats it really like living in China Their reply I really cannot complain |1 Me partner and my disabled 5yo all have had strong symptoms over the last 23 weeks but not had any contact that we know of of anybody who has been in the countries affected so NHS hasnt even given us a 2nd thought Little one goes to a special needs school in the city Liverpool which is obviously a big worry but the school also have mentioned anything either Cant have all 3 of us self isolate when she goes to school every day lol|1 No source anywhere Lies as always|0 Mad|0 If I can use this platform to make one request however PLEASE do not go to the ER unless you absolutely are dying need it We see a lot of non critical patients its part of the job but for the safety of yourselves your community and the medical professionals risking their own safety to treat you stay away from the ER unless you have a true medical emergencyIm just a lowly Medical Assistant planning on going to PA school butyeah Ive worked a lot of Urgent Care for coworkers in the last week and we still are seeing so so many people who come in with symptoms that we have to swab from their carsso many people who probably shouldve been quarantining themselves because their oxygens still doing fine|1 This is the dumbest comment Ive ever read|0 The latency on death and latency on recovery is keyThey just quote confirmed recovered dead Its hard to draw that out from what they provide|0 Norway and Sweden doubled over the past few hours Worrying even thought I dont live in either country|0 The reason I was asking was because Im from South Africa since case 1 we have been informed and are kept informed daily We have a WhatsApp from health ministry where you can enquire and get answers on most important questions We get information about false information published Clarification about self isolation number to call for information And since yesterday most boarders are closed schools and so on Im in no way saying we are 100 on top but we were never told to just chill out|0 Doubt he would die unless he got no treatment at all|0 Im no doctor but I take it for autoimmune disease Autoimmune disease associated with cytokine storms which are also believed to cause the Coronavirus late stage lung inflammation Is it really so odd it would help|0 Thats a shame because this makes for a perfect case study if they had followed up|1 Do you mind sharing your symptoms so that some of us can learn a bit more about how this can present Totally understand if youd rather not but hoping just to gain more info|1 Nobody Theyre mostly friends and family there out of a sense of obligation|1 I would hope the plan is to place retired Doctors Nurses in other areas of a hospital to free up staff to focus on COVID|1 Oh not tyes the freedom to walk into managements office with covid19 and start coughing MERICA FUCK YEAH|0 This disaster has exposed a lot of things that we dont see outside times of crisis In China the mass quarantine forced a 11yearlong murderer on the run out of hiding In America it might end up acting as natures critique on late stage capitalism the unaffordable test kits the lack of funding given to quarantine facilities people being unable to stay away from work because they have no savings at all to carry them through a rain day|0 My hope is that with so many people not going to work and school that landlords and banks will suspend rentpayment collections and evictions for a time period|1 My mother has also taken an If I die its my time to go Im ready to go see your dad again anyway I think Id rather die than have surgeries or etc attitude to this She talks a lot about dying nowadays and its terrifying to me Im supposed to fly across the country in a month and a half to bring her home to WV from Hawaii she spends the winters with my sister who lives there but Im really hoping that my family will decide to keep her there for the time being Im terrified of her picking something up in an airport or me giving it to her and either of us giving it to my grandparents who are sprightly and active af but have underlying health issuesIts only been two years since we lost Dad Sudden heart attack Im still in the early processes of getting my life back together since I left school to help her and try to get my own mental health in check since Id been suicidally depressed in the months before his passing and his death pretty much turned me into a shell of a person I didnt even finish my first semester in college because of my health and his death Im finally ready to begin again in the fall Now I dont know whats going to happenIm scared because I love my mom and of course I want her around But as much as that I fear that if she gets this or she gives it to my grandparents someone will die and it will uproot my entire life again And I dont know how to tell her this without sounding selfish that I cant handle that I cant handle another two years of picking up the pieces and itll be even harder for me to try to go back to college because Ill be working even more just to make ends meetThere are no cases around me but local colleges and universities are already moving to online classes only after Spring Break Im hoping that the increasing precautions various organizations in the US are taking will persuade my mom to stay put for a while Even if she does get sick there I am hoping that Honolulu will have more resources than rural WV doesIm sorry for rambling this has just been weighing on me a lot recently and I dont know how to like get it out|0 Hello BillIs there a way for microsoft to make a statement via platform or otherwise to extend the folding at home network for the sake of finding a vaccine for COVID19 I am glad you are doing so much you seem to be one of the few individuals in capitalistic power that understand the gravity of the situation|1 Reading news from outside help in this averaging process Its what Ive been doing for the past 2 months here in brazil and it helped me prepare If only my family paid attention now everyone wants masks and stuff and theres nothing anywhere You can find masks online for 15 x the usual price its crazy|1 Well keep in mind having OCD means Im mentally ill not an expert lol A lot of my obsessions compulsions are nonsense For instance when I get really bad I wont take pills that have been touched by my own hands so Ill often dump a pill into a napkin and then shoot it into my mouth This makes zero sense because Ill eat food with my hands if theyre thoroughly washed That being said I use disinfectant wipes on commonly touched surfaces regularly I usually disinfect the door knobs and faucets a few times a day Probably not necessary that often but its something the CDC recommends Honestly the biggest thing you can do is1 Wash your hands regularly Be mindful of what youve touched Also disinfecting things you regularly touch like your phone is a good idea 2 Get in the habit of not touching your face The likelihood of infection from breathing in droplets is quite low compared to the likelihood youll touch a surface someone else spread the infection to At least thats the case with most viruses For a lot of people OCD and agoraphobia go hand in hand I feel safe in my house because I disinfect everything regularly and then disinfect myself immediately when I get home It sounds like youre already doing this Same goes for your workspace Im not suggesting you need to get that invested but the current recommendations are kinda in the same vein Disinfect your hands disinfect things you and other people touch often avoid unnecessary contact and dont touch your face|1 Its been the plan all alongStock up Shitstorm coming Nobody will help you|1 I dont know if I misunderstood what i read above but someone said the mean age of todays deaths in Italy was 80 years old That means its really going after old people Maybe Italy has a lot of old people people keep saying that but msybe its a lot more old people than we think|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 You clearly are a child and not aware of how the real world works|1 We dont care about your spelling Stop announcing your edits|0 unfortunately paranoid brains are often too far gone Theyll look at any fact whatsoever as further evidence|0 ScottgottliebMD says we have two hard months ahead of us I think it will be closer to three|0 Have you used the kits that they use in cases like this They have positive controls negative controls RNA extraction protocol is extremely easy Only extremely incompetent personnel will fail it Antibodies havent appeared on the serum yet to sufficient levels so you cant test for them|0 My question is where does the flu go over the summer Is it dormant in people|0 After good forty years I realised even friendship or family is sort of business and necessity of life Up until now my thinking process was when you call someone a friend you trust them with everything yes friend meant friend to me but now I think you have friends for different reasons and no you dont trust anyone with everything So yes think of him less and never ever trust him with money but keep him as friend hes good for something|1 It is more important to keep flying people around the world than preventing millions of deaths|1 Indiana was given 100 kits to test with For The Whole State Outta 67 million And apparently our federal government is ok with that|1 There is some missinformation As for now Italy is not on a lockdown they are just discouraging unnecessary movementAs per now in Italy you can move freely as long as you are not sick and you can prove you are moving for health working or extraordinary reasonsMaybe we can define it as a soft lockdown but is far from confining the population into their homes|1 NETFLIX Remove all geographic blocks for 2 months Netflix tear down that Wall|0 This feels like a Plague Inc gameplay tbh|1 no|0 In the end I may only have I told you so Very sad|0 ive heard on the coronavirus subreddit and on a couple of i think reputable news sites that the actions the italian government are taking are pretty efficient and deaths and new cases are at an all time low from since the virus really started picking up speed|1 UnfortunatelyWelding people into their apartment complexes to die is never a favorable solutionAnd no it doesnt work We are still uncertain about the incubation period as well as the surface durability of the virus If the incubation period is wider than two weeks then no amount of welding or draconian enforcement is going to stop the spreadIf the virus persist longer than four hours on a surface then there are countless ways for it to spread that dont involve person to person contact Most sewage waste systems in Chinese apartments lack proper gas traps to prevent sharing of sewage gasses Rats and mice could carry the virus and transfer the contagion onto kitchen and bathroom surfaces when they forage at nightCoronavirus transfers fairly well from one species to another We dont notice it unless our pets show overt symptoms Dog and cats put their mouths on everything and cats can touch nearly every surface Then there are the birds Their short gut and communal nature makes them a fast growing dynamic reservoirWelding people with the infected inside of their apartment building only serves to concentrate the virus and provide a dispersal hotspot for vermin With the long incubation period and asymptomatic contagion there is no way to get containment even if entire cities are quarantinedThe only truly effective quarenine is complete physical isolation in seperate quarters positive pressure air and water filtration waste incineration and robotic staff Nobody can afford that|0 Hes handling it badly What I want to know is what is his job I assume he isnt a first responders but is he concerned about first responders having access to services|0 httpswwwprincesscomnewsnoticesandadvisoriesnoticesdiamondprincessupdatehtmlSeems like the passengers wont be completely screwed overIt still sucks though|1 There might not be a good definition for general intelligence but certainly there must be qualities that the majority would agree with are intellectual qualities Would you agreeBut yes I agree intelligence is very hard to measure and if tried to it often leads to only testing for specific knowledge|1 You dont expose your skin to UVC you use it to decontaminate surfaces or air Its very bad for your skin and eyesIt only takes seconds but it depends on the lamp power and distance httpswwwamericanultravioletcomuvgermicidalsolutionsfaqgermicidalcfmlgermicidalLamps|0 Possible yesLikely meh Youd have to ask an expert though not any of the hysterics in this sub|0 Lends more credence to the theory that this virus was a gain of function experiment that escaped the lab|1 Could be worse You could be working at a grocery store like meexposed to endless hordes daily at a time when they are recommending no gatherings over 10 people RIP|0 With a username like that you should have known already|1 Ive thought this was nonsense as well Can you get infected even if you wear a mask Sure but you arent going to tell me wearing a mask is futile People walking around town can be asymptomatic so you dont have to be a Heath care worker to be exposed DYOR people|0 Yes it takes 10 minutes to test Something like 6 hours to evaluate the result and then you get a text message with your result within 24 hours They are conducting 20000 tests a day but manufacturing far more as they are sending them to other countries Their test was designed to be simple and fast As such it is easy to perform the test nasal swab The analysis is machine driven using tech that appears in most labs so super common The only valid concern is it is not 100 accurate but it is improving and is in the high 8090 range It is definitely more desirable to have that data than notIt is really not difficult to massively ramp up tasting based on the South Korean testing systemMass testing is what most of the major players around the world are begging governments to do WHO doctors nurses researchers Yet every time I bring this up I get hit by downvotes and people thinking it either does nothing or is not possible It not only is an absolute necessity in order to fight this but it also is absolutely possible to achieveWe can not fight an infection if we do not know who is infected|1 Tech companies will finally prove whether there is an afterlife or not No way theyd let that sweet sweet data go to hell if it existed|1 Seek medical intervention now I wouldnt trust comments from Redditors|0 A lot of the men are life long smokers I think this more than them being men is the reason for the higher death rate|0 They base on behaviour of similar conditions SARS wasnt contagious until symptomatic for example And its somewhat intuitive symptoms including coughing make it more likely thats how it is spread But really should think outside the box especially with so many anecdotal cases of people passing it on presymptomatic the woman who visited Germany and passed on in training session who only started to show symptoms on journey home our Steve Walsh who didnt realise he had it till after a conference alerted him after hed passed it on to a whole ski chalet|1 what a moron lol|0 What kind of panic are we talking about Riots in the streets|0 Its part of my retirement planning I switched to a 20 year loan this year If nothing else its equity to borrow the downpayment for the next unit against Im in a very high cost of living area outside of New York or California that is and Id like to set up a few more units Its just going to take time|1 I Forgot about pediatric electrolytes and thermometers Thank you|1 Thanks Yes I booked with my own money I asked them to give me a voucher reschedule the flight and everything else and they wouldnt budge I guess Ill have to do that to avoid being out 500 bucks|1 Also probably inflated the doubling rate according to epidemiology studies is only 6 days not 3 Thatd make a huge ass difference if this person did the math againhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620302609fulltext|0 Its contagious |0 Thats why I stopped eating|0 I like how you have no actual rebuttalFYI I trade the markets every day check my post history|1 Out of the 120 the guardian asked 16 said yes without reservation and 33 said yes with reservations So out of 120 asked 49 would return which is pretty great of them I guess a lot of medical staff its in their nature to help even to their own detriment|1 A orangey authority|1 Lol this dude If Seattle gets quarantined the whole I5 corridor in the pacific north west is gonna need a quarantine|1 We have a guy riding around on a unicycle in a hazmat suit playing the bag pipes while spraying disinfectant all over Portland So were fine httpsiimgurcomUD5TUbkjpghttpsiimgurcomUD5TUbkjpg httpsiimgurcomo9XbLb8jpghttpsiimgurcomo9XbLb8jpg|1 I guess 1000 Italians cant be wrong|1 A bigger benefit to the wearer is that a mask prevents touching of ones own face Manual contact with the virus followed by touching of the face has been determined to be the greatest cause of transmission Masks will reduce transmission if the infected person were to wear a mask by keeping respiratory droplets contained|1 lmao Dont make me laugh like that|1 Yep who even knows what it is now since testing is so terrible in the USA|0 It really doesnt detract from the message either way The message is heartfelt The world needs to work together and ancients whether from Rome or China have known this long ago and gave us the wretched souls of today the proper words to say it when weve almost forgotten|1 What theyre peddling is dangerously irresponsibleAnd thats coming from when one of the biggest trolls on Reddit|0 WRONG they dont want to instute even anything remotely similar to that|0 Well I think it means fast dissipation It means I dont think there will be a cloud of virus hanging out where the person iswas it will move and dilute quickly|1 That is very sad I hope you and your family will be okay|1 Misinterpretable Misleading|0 Can explain I totally miss the point|0 argument by upvote is a fallacy 80 people can be unanimously wrong Millions of people can be unanimously wrong|0 Damm I guess they want to show they are serious after the womens march fiasco|0 That I can understand Theres a huge difference between shutting an entire city of 30 million people for the foreseeable future versus you running away from Kerala because you dont want to be quantined for just two weeks This thing spreads via International travel you idiots|1 it slowly attacks your lungs and immune systemThere is no evidence that this virus attacks the immune system Those who dont go critical dont because they have beaten it before it got so far while it still felt like a coldNot correct symptoms are not a fixed route the virus goes through but a result of interaction with the infected organism and most notably its immune system The incubation time and time until death are quite variable Time until recovery is as well however this is even more difficult to define as people without symptoms might still be positive for viral RNA or the other way around|0 Its easy for you to say Restaurants are shuttering up left and right and firing the entire staff That money might be the last shes gonna see in months especially with the economic turmoil this is causing|0 hahahahahahaha have a good one |1 The virus is serious But good economy means food on table Tricky situation|1 America currently has a worse case to fatality ration than Iran a country given an emergency aid payment last week|0 So it is racist to cancel Chinese New Year Parade few weeks ago but totally ok to cancel the most celebrated Irish HolidayDont get me wrong I totally support the cancelation but it sounds weird when they treat them so differently If anything canceling events early before the spread would have been more effective|1 xhamsterhttpswwwxhamstercom is offering free premium service for Italy|1 911 became just a huge excuse to pass laws that violate the Constitution Everybody was so scared of the terrorists that they blindly let Bush shred the last of our rights|0 Thats the case with flu too|0 The Twitter troll shouldnt care if a mayor gets drunk and has a good time Mayors need downtime tooThe mayor needs to learn not to feed the trolls|0 You cant Theres no way you could even get to her if shit gets real The only people shell be able to rely on is herself and those who care for her and live close by If she hasnt already tell her to start stocking up Because she should isolate herself If she cant afford it wire her some money|0 Hes in at least 2 at risk categories Hes over 70 a 10 fatality rate and hes obese which if I remember correctly had a 67 fatality rateAnd thats just the health problems we know about|0 Perhaps no 2nd test as he was already tested|0 He France has election next Sunday for city halls or something 44 million people supposed to participate Not yet cancelled or suspended|0 This is a NOVEL coronavirusNobody has immunity|1 I think he just didnt have very bad symptoms|1 Damn the I put on my robe and wizard hat meme old af|0 You will have no worries with a mask like that|0 Exactly what I am feeling right now I am experiencing dry cough shortness of breath and had a fever 991 but its allergy season and I have asthma so I go through this every year at some point The fever has me a bit concerned but maybe I am just freaking out over nothing I dont have a clue what to do|0 So the solution is for the authorities to tell obvious lies everyone can see through and destroy their credibility|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please earn some karma after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Steamy shits lmao|1 If youre actually making mucous membrane contact with public toilets you might want to reexamine how youre using them|1 Good decision here let the ignorant people suffer|0 Yeah because complaining about a shitty president really prepares you for anything Im SO fucking sick of people talking shit about Trump Yeah we get it He sucks Go live your fucking life The amount of stupid fucking assholes that spend their time ranting bitching moaning its honestly sad Why For what UGGGG everyone say bad thing about president me need too to UGG Get a fucking life Im sorry but Im so god damn fed up with it Trump could die in a fucking burning building and I wouldnt give two winks of a fuck WHAT IM SICK OF is people who hate him but cant fucking stop talking about the clown SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THIS PERSON|0 The Bill would provide 50 Billion in relief effort Including more test|1 Tell that to the people crying about Nintendos|0 France announced the closing of all nonindispensable businesses as of midnight including restaurants bars and movie theaters after a sharp uptick in the assault from the coronavirus French cases doubled over the last 72 hours to about 4500 There have been 91 deaths and 300 coronavirus patients are in critical condition half of them under 50 years of agehttpswwwnytimescom20200314worldcoronavirusliveupdateshtmlclickhttpstcopNSGkFnCvk|0 I work for Anthropologie who is owned by Urban and all of my coworkers are so so grateful paid time for part time and full time employees Hope many others follow suit soon|1 Thank you for being one of his voters who has since seen that it was a miscalculation and are willing to share|1 If you think there panic now just wait till the State governments start mass testing general pop it will be the biggest shit show you have ever seen|0 Yes If 100 of the planet is infected with it which wont be the case Its already past 0 growth in China You should learn the math httpsyoutubeKas0tIxDvrg|1 Yeah maybe thats why japan is doing it now March late Jan People are holding Vietnam up as some model because they did it right away which is because they were on break anyway at that time The logic is straightforward Why you are getting your panties in a bunch is beyond me Im not Japanese or Vietnamese just explaining why Vietnam did it so early|1 Its his police departments job not the government these guys should be prepared for stuff like this|1 The man gives zero fucks about anyone but himself His number one argument for his supposed success as a leader is the great stock market numbers Of course this is what he will do Expecting otherwise is in opposition to reality and past experience|1 Thats based off of one paper of 1099 patients with literally one reporting an incubation period of 24 days That sole incident is itself very likely a mistake|0 The patient is quite sick now and has already been transferred between hospitals so they must have had it for a fair chunk of time Sounds like the CDC is trying to do contact tracing although its not clear how responsive this person can be right now due to the severity of their illness Unfortunately the lesson from the past couple days seems to be that there could easily be unknown cases anywhere you look Its why using the flu surveillance networks to also check for coronavirus seemed like such a good idea but then they fumbled the execution|0 Thanks for the explanationGiven that there seem to be few serious side effects from shortterm use why not try it on all infected cases|0 Really That many people are in critical condition now|0 I dont see the billionaires pitching in to rescue anyone from this mess|1 I hope that Gobert asshole gets kicked out of the league|1 Cedar Rapids IATheyve sent people home to quarantine and call twice a day but no tests|0 In other words everyone should have equal chance of dying of Coronavirus|1 And some uh interesting acting from Marky Mark Feast your eyes on this shithttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv9Rq7zEVuwI|1 C Youre a student in England and have go to school or else your parents get a hefty fine because our country is currently being run by a dumbass|0 In the film contagion they barely touched the civil unrest part Some looting and fights over food but Its going to be so bad|0 Not sure about January but I can guess what was discussed in the last 24 hoursWHO Now that the virus has spread globally and the focus isnt totally on China is it OK for us to call it a pandemic nowXi Yes now you may|1 Yeah okay in your previous comment you say 100s of thousands infected and here you post an article which states possibly 10s of thousands infected Why are you so certain that the death toll will be in the 10s of thousand next week If you dont have hard evidence to back up such claims do everyone a favour and shut the fuck up because in these situations the last thing everyone needs is bullshit spewed by an idiot who probably spends their time thinking about conspiracy theories|0 Agreed Its also frustrating that we dont always have accurate information about what states have active cases I just read someone from my state Utah claim we have no confirmed cases yet there is a Diamond Princess passenger being treated at Intermountain Hospital Because he didnt get the virus here some sources are acting like nobody in the state has the virus Thats not true I also just read a story written by a nurse who is having trouble getting coverage for being sick with it bc insurers are basically accusing the person of not using protective gear or not using it well enough The whole thing is a mess|0 Sure you canIts called memorializinghttpswwwfacebookcomhelp1506822589577997|1 Obama created it so it must be undone|1 They dont seem to understand exponential growth and how crucial it is to act early Eg imagine a pond with a lilypad on it The pond is 100 covered by the lilypad on day 30 When was half of the pond covered If youre thinking day 15 you would be wrong The pond was half covered on day 29 and doubled one final time to cover the entire pond on day 30 On day 15 the pond was only 00031 covered Exponential growth can be absolutely disastrous to ignore and too hard to fix|0 They cant decrease production They are being warlike mobilised Just as Porsche produced tanks or USA forced companies to stop car making and move to planesAlso its not for free when the emergency state is over they can ask for indemnity|0 Remember it was traced to big agrobusiness plants after that they started to change the tune in the news You dont want to broadcast the bad conditions on those farms to the public|0 Its important to remember that fears are there to call us to action This comes in a variety of ways Mindfulness Is it true that home isnt safe How does home not feel safe Communication If so can you share your fears with the people you live with Collaboration Can you educate andor show others how to make home feel safe Can you work together to problem solve SMART problem solvinghttpswwwpinterestcompin143833781829035318 is a really nice framework for this kind of thing EXAMPLE Mindfulness Maybe you dont have enough food or a good variety to make food last several weeks of staying in Communication If you have housemates and everyone buys their own good would folks be willing to pool resources for the next few weeks Collaboration Each person can list what they have and so look for 3 Freezer Meals that will serve 3 people and can be doubled or tripled cheaply Pool your food resources together to optimize each others nutrition during this time|1 No they have separate alerts for Hong Kong|0 Genuine question How do religious people justify a deadly pandemic virus If god exists and is omnipotent then he created it So why follow such a cruel God|1 The food industry in America the rest of the first world isnt as disfunctional as your shit hole|0 You have been banned from rsino|0 So his wife tested positive but he didnt Did they specifically say he tested negativeShe contracted the virus during a trip to London She was tested positive in Canada when she returnedx200BEdit He didnt specifically mentioned if he was tested or not on his wifes situation update on Facebook he only said he was feeling fine He is working from home for 14 days|1 Dont touch your face LMAO palm face tho|1 i saw it days ago dont have the link just search for china spitting elevator buttons and im sure you will find a few|1 I saw some speculation that we are drastically miscalculating the R0 of this virus or assuming it to be too uniform and consistent It may be that this virus relies way more on certain superspreader events than we assume|1 First off youre not alone in how you feel I honestly dont think any country knows how to handle this This is uncharted waters My country has screwed up so many times it is scary the US I should listen to what I am about to say but limiting your news exposure is essential|0 What she is saying is the very polite scientific way of calling it nonsense The idea of recovering from a viral infection and not developing immunity is very very unusual If it continues spreading to the extent that it becomes endemic then eventually we will see strains that are different enough that immunity to the original strain will not affect them|0 Theyre announcing an incredible amount of programs to try and alleviate some of the struggles This is an impressive approach Even a buy back for bars that loaded up for pattys day and March madness|0 I get that but their decision could have turned out fine Unfortunately this thing has gotten scary and even scarier for them given that grandpa already has an underlying heath issueThat doesnt mean that they get to just hop off the ship and potentially infect many others along the way if their ship does have a COVID case|0 Best thing I did was buy N99 reusable masks for my family my bros family and his kids Same as you all slowly started buy double my normal groceries since Jan My family made fun of me Now they are very grateful I supplied them with a couple cases of sanatizer TP gloves alcohol and I have an abundance of canned food if they need it but I SOO wish I hadnt been right on this one I did this for ebola too and they laughed then but glad I was wrong My 88 year old mom lives with me my bro is in hosp after heart attackfoot amputation Im a smoker so my fear factor is kinda high My work JUST implemented cleaning no travel policy yesterday after my cubemate showed up coughing with the flu they sent him home then we all attacked his cubicle with Lysol fear factor high ps use a glove when pumping gas Take off your shoes before you enter your home I have a humidifier running 247 in the house GOOD LUCK ALL|1 I think hes just more concerned with the stock market and his reelection hopes If he talks about coronavirus that spreads fear could tank the market if it gets worse and if the market tanks right before the election thats really bad news for TrumpI dont think theres any conspiracy I just think hes acting out of selfpreservation Doesnt want to say anything that could possibly cause the market to go down|0 Those who left will have a crappy follow up as the Italian military has surrounded the trains at the stations They have been treated like people with the plague|0 Which Im sure will go really well|1 Subreddit rules forbid politics just a friendly reminder|1 Peiple are begging for tests for no reason The team is being tested because they were exposed to a known case of Corona virus whats so hard to understand If youre spouse had been infected with Corona virus or a coworker was infected ypu would 100 be tested as well Why waste testing on some lunatoc who hasnt travlled or had any contact just bwcause they wanna know|0 As far as I know no Building the factories necessary to sustain production would take way too long and cost a ton The UAW wouldnt allow it anyways|0 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Half the US spent the last 3 months hearing about a smear hoax fake news democRat fearmongering campaign and havent caught up to the real world yet|0 I am from Paris and I feel bad Everywhere they find cases related to previous cases In France nothing I am not confident The poor man was a tourist we dont even know where he has been I would prefer having clear informations like in Singapore|1 Everytime I scroll past this post the lyrics wishing and hoping and dreaming and praying pop into my head for some weird reason|1 Or worse how a policy like that incentivizes infecting your coworkers so you all get workers compensationEdit Holy shit is my cake day on pie day This whole time|0 I dunno do what u like tbh ur the artist I like the smile just nothing looks clean and people might look back on this sub after|1 Im sorry Have you seen the US|0 Unless Im not aware of quantifiable new reports it seems most of those cases would be well within the margin for error on the testing process which due in part to how little time there has been to fine tune the accuracy of the tests creates a decent chunk of false negatives Im not currently aware of the stats around false positives|1 Not a fucking chanceThe rich countries are doing so little in the face of this Especially the US and many Eurozone countries|0 Mine is June 6th and we are panicking|0 Im just waiting for the naysayers to say the pandemic fears were overblown if the spread of COVID19 does get curtailed despite the fact that it took quarantining 50 million people worldwide to pull it off|0 It is not a flu it is 10 times deadliest|1 Why would closing a border be in any way racist anyhow|0 now how on earth would you do something like organic chemistry lab|1 That same person is gonna complain on Facebook about how slow the lineups are at the airport |0 This is the problem I have with how the word panic is being thrown around and is being used as a synonym for concern anger or fear People can be worried angry be in danger or have fear without panicking Panic only makes things worse and should always be avoided The way in which people react is not binary There are people who are anxious timid and prone to panic when there is no real threat There are people who remain in denial even when it is apparent that the threat is unavoidable There is also a large gray area in betweenPreparing for a bad situation if done in a measured rational way is not panic Its being responsible People in denial and having ignored all signs of a potentially dangerous situation until it is too late tend to panicDefinition of Panichttpswwwdictionarycombrowsepanic|0 Forgive the copy paste job but Ive already commented on thisTo understand this well need to review the definition of statistical significance versus clinical significance Say you give a large number of people vitamin C for cold symptoms The sham group was sick for 120 hours The vitamin C group was sick for 1104 hours Does that mean that vitamin c is a miracle cure Because thats literally the difference we are arguing about here 8 was statistically significant in that it was an absolute difference on the statistical software based on the effect and number of subjects But being 92 as sick is not a reason for everyone to start chewing megadoses of vitamin C especially considering the risk of side effects with large doses headache nausea whatever since it is not clinically relevantMy point stands there is no data that these are beneficial interventions If you wanna stay up on your vitamins go for it It is unlikely to be harmful when done in moderationBut nobody should be promoting any vitamin C regimens for the treatment prevention or cure of any disease because thats misleading the publicps also good on you for taking vitamin D as most of the USA is deficient and deficiency predisposes one to osteoporosis|1 Yes a lot of what you said i agree with However the immunity would last long enough to not be reinfected immediately after which is what a lot of people are fear mongering about I would say going off most viruses it would grant at least 6 months of good immunity That may not be enough time to get a vaccine unless some of these ones countries are touting it already can get rushed through trials with enough success that they deem it a possibility to bring public Definitely hoping for the best with a vaccine and with antiviral and other treatments being found and further refined|1 Damn they never showed the bills in firefighter TV 911 is what I watched|0 Because they arent smart people|0 So the US is saying not to because we have a shortage but its propaganda Makes sense though doctors need masks more and the government doesnt want regular people buying up all the masksSouth Korea China and Japan are encouraging people to wear masks and trying to distribute them to the public because they work|1 The immobile ones are not fully quarantined They are social distancing So yes if they go get food or do other things|1 Its mad how little tests the government has done They are making exactly the same mistakes Italy Iran China made in the early days Looking back in a few months this will be a national scandal|0 I hope Australia follows but I know we wont cos Australia is owned by china This aged well|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Its not fear mongering Its going to be basic survival shit in a week or two|0 That is what he says we have to wait and see whether it scales with symptoms or not For example if someone is showing milder symptoms are they also less infectious We hope so but we dont know yet He said that will be crucial to whether we have a good chance at stopping this|1 very happy with this sub|1 Id say a month We could all use a little break of this chaos and rest and enjoy our family or ourselves A month of Zen moment|0 Modern problems require modern solutions|0 Yes please make this crowdsourced have a requirement of a news article or two with link provided on the case trying to be added May also add in a feature of clicking on the map and specific areas that list those said news articles|1 no he died for 3 hours and at the hands of some of his best colleagues but since they didnt use the ECMO they posthumously attached it to him so that people wouldnt hound on the head of the hospital for not doing everything possible think about it putting him on it 3 hours after his death that is disgusting and is a total disgrace|0 Some of us did and we were called crazy|0 Soon after the virus surfaced in China the CDC got to work on its own testhttpsfortunecom20200307coronavirustestuscovid19testingsampleskitshowmany Generally CDC provides these tests for the world said Dr FriedenBut German researchers were devising their own test which was quickly adopted by the World Health Organization for distribution around the worldAfter the CDCs version turned out to be flawed the agency continued to pursue it despite the fact that another diagnostic test was already in wide useWith FDA approval the agency could simply have embraced the test used by the WHO Dr Mina said The government could do so even nowIts just a very American approach to say Were the US the major US public health lab and were going to not follow the leader Dr Mina said|1 I am so sorry that you your family and your fellow countrymen are experiencing this horrible illness during what should be a time of togetherness and celebration Im also so sorry that you are being vilified by some very small minded and ignorant people If it is any comfort the majority of people are very worried for the citizens of China and are angry at the government and the people who directly caused the outbreak We understand this isnt the fault of the average citizens of China I hope you and your family stay safe and well and this illness calms down soon|0 No idea But the sooner summer comes the better|1 As I replied to you in another threadyoure an idiot|0 im pretty sure cats are like 99 similar to the egyptian wild cats that they descent from|1 People have their own risk tolerances and this will clearly influence their behaviour Personally I think domestic travel is completely safe as long as you are mindful of good hand hygiene Isaac Bogoch MD|1 Eh told Im good to go back to work after being sick just a flew Of course I wasnt tested and neither was my far sicker girlfriend|0 Lol Yeah this feels like Bernie looked at his notes saw 1000 on there and then an aide whispered that theyre already doing a thousand so he went with two gs instead|1 I bought my last pack today Ive been slowly leading up to this and I am feeling pretty optimistic about this attempt I hope for the best for both of us|1 The full story was this dude had the symptoms in Wuhan ChinaTook medications to ease the symptoms such as lowering feverbody temperature to pass the airport sensors then went to the night club in Kaohsiung to party Without any protection or telling anyoneThe girl who had a night with him started feeling ill the next day and called him where he finally gave the detailsThe girl then immediately called the authority and had him brought in for the test and quarantineThats the reason he was finedA complete scum to be honest|1 This is why this epidemic is far from over in China They have been rushing to discharge patients to free up beds and also to make their infectedrecovered ratios look better Not to mention the political pressure from xi to loosen lockdown to resume productions so xi can chase the GDP growth he mandated They are bound to have ripple outbreaks from all these still contagious discharged patients|1 I feel this post to my bones I am so emotionally whipped with this cluster fuck I cant even respond but thank you for expressing what is in my soul right now|1 I did see a news report which had audio of a funeral home staffer shouting about that needing resources to fix broken machines to be able to burn more bodies so they dont fall even more behind working 247 physical exhaustion from carrying them ripping seats off vans to fit more bodies in etc httpsyoutubeeYYV1B1lRKY|0 The problem is when people who are not infected are wearing them to try to protect themselves That is counter productive and takes away supplies from people who need it Do YOU agree Its different from herd immunity Its like if we gave Shingrix to anyone who walked in the door despite there being a shortage and therefore not enough to give to those who require a second dose What makes more sense giving anyone who asks their first dose and letting the 6 month period lapse for everyone because we rationed improperly or giving the remaining stock to those who already got their first dose so theyre actually protectedAnd now because Im being downvoted for stating a professional but dissenting opinion I also have a soft limit on my replies to your post GG mods lets silence health care workers trained in infectious disease managementEdit Id love to continue this conversation with you to tell you my thoughts and try to show that you arent being lied to and theres years of research to back up why the masks dont make sense to use for the asymptomatic or uninfected in lieu of basic hygiene but I cant because I am still being rate limited for disagreeing with you So if thats how this sub wants to run cool do your thing|1 So do the fatality numbers just come from cases or does it include the number of people who die from lack of care due to overcrowding caused by Coronavirus|0 The lights commonly used in hospitals mercury vapor fluorescent tubes do produce UV light internally This UV light is converted to visible light with a phosphor coatingReleasing the UV light would a make the lamp dimmer and b give people cancer How do you think it destroys viruses and bacteria|0 The federal government turned down the WHO tests Im wondering which US company that lines Trumps pockets is getting paid to make the tests There will be plenty of need for the tests they could have taken all of the WHO tests and had a company still make more This administration is so greedy and unethical|0 I heard this doesnt even include the Lombardy numbers because theyre not ready yet Is that true|1 Hope im right |1 Can I just ask Why is it that celebrities and athletes have so much influence over fields that are not of their expertise Why do people these then more than scientistsWhy are the famous so darn important to people|1 Would the CCP do that just go out and lie about httpswwwindependentcouknewsworldasiachinasquakecoverup1678542html httpswwwscmpcomnewschinapoliciespoliticsarticle2083483chineselocalgovernmentsadmitmajorcover2012flood httpswwwdwcomenchinaorderslocalforecasterstostopissuingsmogalertsa37170575 httpswwwnytimescom20080923worldasia23iht24milknew16423573html httpswwwbritannicacomtopicTiananmenSquare httpswwwtheguardiancomworld2011jul25chineserailcrashcoverupclaims some deaths i am shocked that you would imply that china might lie about the severity of an event China has never done anything like that ever|0 Walmart treating its employees well Is it opposite day|1 The Gang Prays Away A Pandemic|1 Could be the viral load within certain parts of the body fluctuate from time to time|1 How do you know its always been true Do you break out a paper and pencil tally up every group you interact with then later decide who the assholes were|0 Uh if I thought I had a life threatening illness I might want to tell people so that I could receive treatment|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 From another thread on this topic here are the links to the papersNone of that really But this project started here has continued here and is in the tradition of preservation openness and access to information So its hereYou can find and read articles at NIH LitCovidhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovresearchcoronavirushttpswwwncbinlmnihgovresearchcoronavirusOr the publisher websitesScienceDirect Coronavirus QuicksearchhttpssciencedirectcomquicksearchescoronavirusWiley Onlines Covid19 Novel Coronavirus Outbreak CollectionhttpsnovelcoronavirusonlinelibrarywileycomTaylor Francis Coronavirus Reading ListhttpsnewsroomtaylorandfrancisgroupcomcoronavirusreadinglistSpringer Natures Coronavirus CampaignhttpswwwspringernaturecomgpresearcherscampaignscoronavirusOxford University Press COVID19 Information Hubhttpsacademicoupcomjournalspagescoronavirus1Science Coronavirus Research Repositoryhttpscoronavirus1sciencecomsearch ushrineAdditionally here is an older archive of over 5000 papers on coronaviruses that were made publicCoronavirus Papers on theeyehttpstheeyeeupublicPapersCoronaVirusPapers|1 Holy shit that is horrible|0 I dont think hes the nicest man in the world No need to feel sorry for him|1 There is ZERO evidence of this ZERO We need to STOP trying to make excuses and get our shit together|0 People like that think its better to infect everyone and get it over with The problem is that its so very infectious and so many infected people will required hospitalization that doing this would cause more people to die from a lack of access to care|0 Reading this is absolutely chilling|0 It varies week to week Sometimes he runs shorter routes sometimes hes several states away His employer just assigns drivers loads by whos around at the time Kinda sucks because paychecks are all over the place lol|1 Yup thats what I try to tell people Unless youre me that one time when I offered to lay sod at my grandmothers house in July It was easily 100 degrees I learned my lesson|1 Thank you I really appreciate your work on this|1 I hope they never fix it|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 You understand the situation correctly All of these reinfection reports have been flawed Possible reasons1 False negative testing at the point of discharge2 Patient was discharged prematurely maybe not even tested before discharge3 RTPCR testing cannot differentiate between infectious virus and broken bits of viral RNA So the positive anal swabs after discharge are probably the latter Checking for live virus would require culturing the virus in a BSL3 lab not easily done4 Some of these patients did not recover using their own immune systems They were given antivirals or plasma from recovered patients So perhaps when the treatment stopped there was some viral rebound|0 If you believe the Chinese have it under control I got a bridge to sell you When Xi came to visit they yelled fake and you can even check the air and current congestion index right now in China Its not under control yet|0 I wouldnt hold any hope for a good emperor People have to own their country|1 I appreciate Bill Gates doing this but I hate that were in a system where we have to rely on the mercy of billionaires to cover for the incompetence and apathy of the government|0 This is a serious question to experts and epidemiologists out there Given that high IV doses of Vitamin C have been proven in the past to be an effective antiviral agent why isnt this more talked about and implemented everywhere I received the newsletter below from Orthomolecular medicineOMNS Mar 3 2020 The government of Shanghai China has announced its official recommendation that COVID19 should be treated with high amounts of intravenous vitamin C 1 Dosage recommendations vary with severity of illness from 50 to 200 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day to as much as 200 mgkgdayThese dosages are approximately 4000 to 16000 mg for an adult administered by IV This specific method of administration is important says intravenous therapy expert Atsuo Yanagisawa MD PhD because vitamin Cs effect is at least ten times more powerful by IV than if taken orally Dr Yanagisawa is president of the Tokyobased Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy He says Intravenous vitamin C is a safe effective and broadspectrum antiviralRichard Z Cheng MD PhD a ChineseAmerican specialist physician has been working closely with medical and governmental authorities throughout China He has been instrumental in facilitating at least three Chinese clinical IV vitamin C studies now underway Dr Cheng is presently in Shanghai continuing his efforts to encourage still more Chinese hospitals to implement vitamin C therapy incorporating high oral doses as well as C by IVDr Cheng and Dr Yanagisawa both recommend oral vitamin C for prevention of COVID19 infectionAn official statement from Xian Jiaotong University Second Hospital 2 readsOn the afternoon of February 20 2020 another 4 patients with severe new coronaviral pneumonia recovered from the C10 West Ward of Tongji Hospital In the past 8 patients have been discharged from hospital Highdose vitamin C achieved good results in clinical applications We believe that for patients with severe neonatal pneumonia and critically ill patients vitamin C treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after admission Early application of large doses of vitamin C can have a strong antioxidant effect reduce inflammatory responses and improve endothelial function Numerous studies have shown that the dose of vitamin C has a lot to do with the effect of treatment Hghdose vitamin C can not only improve antiviral levels but more importantly can prevent and treat acute lung injury ALI and acute respiratory distress ARDSReferences1httpsmpweixinqqcomsbF2YhJKiOfe1yimBc4XwOA2http2yuanxjtueducnHtmlNewsArticles21774htmlEdit added references links|1 Im in Travis County just outside of Austin Texas I mostly shop in a smaller town walmart or HEB We have been out of gloves masks and sanitizer for WEEKS now About a week ago the Clorox sprays wipes and lysol products VANISHED Alcohol and peroxide were hit and miss No Aloe anywhere Dry milk has been gone for about 2 weeks So far as of yesterday beans and rice and food in general looked good I grabbed jerky nuts and dry fruit to add to my stockpile I stocked up on crayons color books and puzzles for the kids all in good supply at Dollar Tree still Ive grabbed 2 bulk TP Twice this week no issues Bottled water seems to be okay even nursery water in the baby section Formula diapers and wipes all looked well stocked when I grabbed a 3 pack for just in caseMy friend in Cedar ParkLeander area is losing her shit tho She laughed and joked and made fun of people Now shes like I cant find any TP Costco is out and out of water and Our grocery store is wiped out I couldnt even get breakfast sausage to cook in the morning before we leave for our trip Where the hell this nut job is going I have no clue Its SPRING BREAK I cleaned out my fridgefreezer today and will be getting a few things tomorrow Perishable Hopefully Im not too late on the stuff I need|1 But the sheer scale of this ramp up is astoundingPeople may try to say just the flu but hospitals know this is badworse than any flu weve had beforeBut we can also say they remembered the Panflu H1N1 in 2009 and the triage tents outside hospitals They remembered the lack of ventilators and beds then and the chaos as people needing treatment just kept coming|0 As for major retail chains its corporate who makes these bullshit decisions and then managers are expected to implement and enforce them|0 Does the reporting on the death toll from Tiananmen Square sound familiar|0 My country has a failed universal health care system and is heavily understaffed Few days of consecutive 24 hr shifts and over 400 hrs per month for residents is very common Outliers with approx 600 happen Deaths on shift also happen no outbreaks needed Add the coronavirus No surprise |0 I would imagine domestic traveling is even easier than traveling between countries in EU so we have the ability to essentially have outbreaks pop up in every major US cityNo actually EU is way easier Countries are closer and flights travel are much cheaper There are no borders just like the States|1 WHOhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf puts the case fatality rate at 37547 for men and 28 for women in their report from China but I guess thats with Chinas demographics and allIve been trying to find the number for the common flu but all the results I find are just COVID19 articles without a source for the flu number |0 Cannot He dont trust govt mouthpiece cos singapore is low on the freedom scale |1 Good point better just let the old people go out and catch the virus and die definitely dont want a few moochers in there not worth it|1 please elaborate|1 Sigh we have them but most countries had defective tests from various sources|0 Dont give a fuck about what you want lmao|1 Cool I shall that sounds like an excellent tip Thanks|1 Screens keyboards your hair your sleevesforearms watches glasses jewelry your shoes all things that are easily overlooked spend a day really watching what parts of your body contact surfaces and what parts of your body you touch with your hands a lot Its really interesting I think|1 The worst thing the city of Toronto has given the world until Drake|0 My neighbor is 70 and went to look at tile for a new bathroom today Im worried for them Made them some 60 hand sanitizer today because they didnt have any|1 People need to start realizing that it isnt the death rate or even the number of infections that matter It is the medical system overwhelm that will spiral the world into chaos Without a functioning medical system ie infected staff lack of beds and equipment ppe etc THEN death rate will rise infections will spread fear will ensue and economy will tank Most people are looking at the chain reaction backwards thinking it wont be a big deal|0 I think it is That would explain why immunosuppressants are effective as a treatment Edit this isnt confirmed or proven its worked in some cases they think I think If youre on immunosuppressants to begin with thats going to increase your vulnerability to infection and damage In cases where the person already has it and its clear that their immune system is doing the most damage it may help|1 Singapore and Australia both have not yet had community transmission Well first case was in Australia yesterday so see how that goes but that was in VIC which currently has 14C temps|1 My mom did this too She has extensive lung damage caused by pneumonia where she almost died and she is diabetic I asked if she could get a few months extra of insulin and go buy a month of food in advance they have an extra fridge and a deep freezer She told me to stop being so paranoid I live far away from my parents and will be unable to help I am furious with them|0 That is on the list At this point there are too few Timing is important Recruiting from the recovered will occur Right now most people in the country are upset to a greater or lessor degree and the information and the internalization of the information and the reality is like a fire hose One step at a time|1 More like angry Americans with guns will probably go on a killing spree if anyone tried to restrict their freedom for two weeks Honestly a lot of Chinese are willing to follow their governments order for the common good 1 because they trust their government and 2 it is also a cultural thing|1 Same attitude in Poland Which triggers me the most Lots of guess I will die or There is nothing we can do cases|0 Yes but Italy is the worlds 8th largest economy and a major trading partner of Chinas If Italy is suffering economically so are they Theyre compelled to help other countries for economic reasons not just propaganda ones|1 im not entirely sure good question|0 Yeah this didnt occur to me either since Im not scared of Chinese people but I guess some people are|1 Its growing exponentially just like everyone said it would|1 A couple of points Its not only the amount of beds available but also equipment ICU patients will need a respirator at minimum For weeks No idea how many spares there are if any but I wouldnt count on there being any There are only 20 ECMO machines in the country though The graph doesnt consider the amount of patients who will need a hospital bed which isnt in the ICU 14 of cases They require oxygen again no idea how much of that is available but I doubt we have enough BUT Something can be done With selfsacrifice each person can help Everytime we leave our houses and go places where other people are or have been we risk catching or spreading the virus Obviously most people must go out to work but we dont have to go out socially Every cancelled event and daynight spent at home will save lives because it will slow the spread of the virus More people will get a hospital bed and treatment more people will survive Please share the message and if you can think of anything which we could do collectively as a society to help go to rletsbeatcovid19|1 And I am not saying it isnt serious It is But I am also saying that even if we did nothingit would pass That is just nature doing what nature does|1 Darwin Award Winners allround|1 When the videos of people collapsing on the street dead bodies in the hospital started pouring out of Wuhan I thought there would be no way this would ever happen in the US Now Im not even sure|0 Right But we need to look toward bigger numbers for a true characterization of projected infections|1 Thank you kind sir|1 So this isnt trivial In general and Iyou should let a physician answer but as a former paramedic Id say for an otherwise healthy person that for sure anything below 90 and probably as soon as you start dipping into the 9293 range for a prolonged period of timeHowever there are some caveats You need to make sure your pulse oximeter works and have used it before to confirm Some people spend their lives with sats at 90 Its abnormal in a healthy person but might be no change from normal in someone with COPD I would think that how YOU feel about your breathing is probably more important Also if you start showing other signs of hypoxia cyanosis confusion irritability etc|1 Assisted breathing is the first issue because there are only so many ventilators that force the breathing to give the lungs time to rest and hopefully recover One of the doctors said if there were 10000 cases in Italy who need assisted breathing at once and only 3000 ventilators they have to choose which 7000 to allow to die It looks like they are prioritising young people with no existing conditions but thats not so reassuring One doctor said they are now only treating people 60 and younger|0 I hope youre kidding and I just read that incorrectly lol|1 I just chose Arizona as an example there was plenty of states with just 1 that had no connectionMy bad it was Cali httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomworld2020feb26uscoronaviruscaliforniacase|0 Id rather have someone else in charge who can deal with these things like an adult and not a child telling people to stay quiet because it might hurt him publicly|0 Maybe check your local news website Reddit is probably the worst place to try getting information at this point except for the ama by professions qualified to answer questions|0 Theyre gonna get people killed Thanks for the work youre doing|0 Do we even know if that is true Yes there are more people that look Chinese in China than anywhere But how much traveling is done Maybe it is true maybe not Either way I dont think it is useful Most people with asian features in any US city are probably people who live there and likely have lived there their whole lives maybe many generations Chinese people have been in the US since the 1850s|1 So glad Ive done a massive shop in the past two days Im not as worried about the virus as I am to the public losing its mind|1 Fake news lol|0 Exactly I never mind reposts These things get buried too quickly for my tastes especially by YouTube and the like Repost all the time lives depend on reposts|1 Im not suggesting China are being completely transparent but the discrepancy you point out is due to the way cause of death is recorded on death certificates in China Flu doesnt normally kill directly but through complications such as pneumonia or sepsis In the US both pneumonia and influenza would be mentioned whereas in China only the ultimate cause of death is listed eg pneumoniaThis posthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf0p5ncproofofcookedbooksjapanesemanwhodiedinfgyc55o explains it better|0 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Ripping on China because all these viruses keep coming out of China Whens the last time one of these scares originated in the US|0 Might be a good idea to ask the driver what they want then drive through yourself and get it and have them reimburse you when you can give them their order Try to respect the 6 foot rule by not being enclosed in the same car|1 Ive been scratching my head for two days now wondering why anyone who even heard of Diamond Princess a month ago thought it would be a good idea less than two weeks ago to jump on a cruise|1 I know an atrisk person that takes bp reducing meds Care to share more info on that|1 Same So nervous in this respect|1 Work at a food lion in Maryland and can happily say that many customers have been nice and not crazy No fights or anything One of us accidentally left a box of toilet paper in a cart on the floor for an hour and no one took from it This also with none left on the shelf Blew my mine that no one took it Faith in humanity increased in that moment|1 In the midwest there isnt much argument everyone just says they are useless|0 I mean they were screaming It was just words of support and encouragement to each other|1 Well sooner would have preferred I agree better late then never because this gov is what we have for the foreseeable future|1 Feminists will a find a way to make her the victim in all of this|0 To be fair it makes sense for people to have a reasonable amount of time to prepare before they address the public on a big issue that is likely going to cause a lot of stir and affect a lot of people I actually hope that the State Health Department had a fucking meeting called the governor consulted with the CDC and got IT involved so they could agree on a game plan get some things set up and in place create a phone line and implement some strategies before telling the public that oh the CDC hasnt been tracing cases and by the way its been circulating in the community for 6 weeks It is normal and natural for people to have some meetings and get things in place Over 24 hours is too long though Within the work day I would think is a normal amount of time to brief have a plan and prepare|1 My issue is a decade of drs visits trying to figure out why I was sick but constantly being told theres nothing wrong and its in my head Took 7 dr over 10 years to get diagnosed with an autoimmune disease I still worry that I wont be believed and theyll stop my my medication day |0 Oh absolutely Many Saudis are obese or have very poor health diabetes poor lung function from lack of excercise etc Sitting ducks|0 Dont go If your boss tries to make you show him a reliable source of information about why its not a good idea If he still doesnt budge tell him to go fuck himself Contact his boss if he has one Make a stink to the company mailing list Hell go to the press No job is worth dying over|0 I absolutely love it here I moved from upstate NY 2 years ago on a whim My only complaint is theres so many people here|1 haha bich|1 Because whether we know it or not we already have socialized medicine Guess who pays for the people who go the the ER who are too poor to pay Thats right its everyone else who can pay Thats one reason hospital bills are so high That and malpractice insurance|0 Here it is lol the other affordable healthcare plans I could get were more expensive AND had a higher deductible some were a 7000 deductible for a single person I get my insurance through my employer and pay too much for this shit but I really have no choice This is literally the cheapest thing I can do |0 Well for fucks sake|0 What angers me is that Universities are closingworking from home Many businesses are doing the same But public schools are still business as usual The least hygienic members of society are still being crammed into small confined spaces everyday|0 He did I dont know why people are speculating on the governments reasons herethey were pretty clear about it during the press conference|1 great way to wipe out western civilatation to make a virus that tranferable between dogs and humans if this was ebola wed all be screwed|1 No It takes away valuable money needed to give to the airlinesS|1 I think the conversation of America does matter The Trump administration is largely mishandling response and needs to criticized for both its domestic and foreign implications|0 What if it wasnt US but it would be places like Taiwan rebelling for independence or Tibet India would also love a piece of that pie|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Did you even read the article Hanks and his wife have both been in Australia since January They did not fall under the guidelines for who should be tested They definitely received preferential treatment|1 That is really fascinating Thank you|1 Oh no no what I mean is I think the biggest limiting factor for treating people in critical condition is availability of ventilators Ive been reading debates on the average ratio of of ICU bedsventilators|0 Gloves wipes hand gel masks maybe|1 I think cats will be fine|1 Based on leaked videos from Wuhan theres a sht tons of deaths as wellIm not sure if its a cover up to reduce fearpanic or is just the way China attributes death cause if someone dies before being tested they wont attribute it to the virus rather as natural deathSo for now at least from China all numbers are skewed by lack of test kits so were going to see 2000 confirmed cases and 50 deaths a day for a while|0 like a sane personI think you answered your own question right there|1 I replied to a previous post but in case you didnt see it rcoronavirus is run by Mods that work for CCP They censor anything that remotely is negative or they dont agree withThey are certainly earning their social credit points as upstanding citizens of the CCP|0 facial feminization surgery FFS is what female body builders do to counteract the effects of a lot of testosterone in their system this is also what many asian females do for the same reasons asian men also do the same as the standard of beauty today is a feminine look aka whitehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchveL73mWitig8httpswwwyoutubecomwatchveL73mWitig8its very brave of you to come out this way|1 I dont want people to have to get locked into their housesapartmentsI think its necessary As long as they are not in critical condition and are being given medicine food and water China has only barely gotten a handle on it by doing this how do we expect a different result by letting people freely infect others|1 So weird|0 We would like to still have an economy at the end of this|1 Henan people are real nice They get a lot of shit but they were really good to me are such earnest people They know life is hard I feel bad for whats going to happen over the coming weeks I hope your friends are doing okThanks for posting the other stuff you post is nice and all but I quite like what you are doing translating for us people who dont read too good|1 I wouldnt mind living there actually lol it seems nice|1 It always cracks me up how specific some federal jobs are we have a lot of people who have planning for this for a long time Hopefully enough and with good plans|1 Because if people were still showing up theres no way theyd be shutting their doors This to me is an empty gesture and only happening because their bottom line got hurt and they want to scam a little good PR out of it|0 Maybe find a priestpastorreverendcleric Im not sure what the validity is if they fill out the paperwork but havent turned it in to the government|0 He should shave his beard as well when he gets the chance|1 I was expecting this to be a magnitude bot haha|1 I will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200415 000000 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202004152000000020UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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then they would not have stopped flights from china right away Stop listening to the democrats they duped you into believing Turmp hasnt been protecting the people|0 Ill make some guessesRemdesivir will do almost nothing for people already in serious conditionBut it will prevent some people that are in mild condition to progress to serious or severe condition|0 TILOne thing I love about this sub is that Im learning so much about other countries and their cultures|1 Most corporations are like that and unfortunately our country is controlled by corporations I worked for a very large grocery store chain and they were the same way They would say they did not want people to come into work sick However people were worried if they called in they would lose their job While this company started out with integrity somewhere along the lines they lost it And people were fired for the most trivial crap Its total BS how corporations treat people at the bottom Now because of this type of greedy mindset it will have a ripple effect on the rest of society|0 Her biggest thing should be decontaminating as much as possible before getting into the vehicle The cans of lysol are pretty good for full body spray downs just have some alcoholwipes to get it off her skinWeve been paying extra attention to hair as it would be the best place for it to hide We use coconut oil to counter negative effects from the cleaners but Im not sure what the best thing would beE Good luck guys also forgot to mention how important lotion is since cleaners dry you out|1 Cruise ship settings can have higher transmission rates than an apartment building in some cases There can be multiple reasons for this but some examples include the use of shared eating facilities and crewsThat being said its hard to make broad generalizations Ships and buildings can be very different and have different populations and policies These differences can make all of the difference with transmission The fact remains that there is zero evidence this virus is airborne|1 Nice tracker thank you Id suggest adding case totals when filtering by state so its easy to see instead of having math|1 Damn I thought that said selfimmolate for a secondI hope theyre both OK and can resume attending blackface parties soon|1 What did they do for recovery Like for a really bad cold Bedrest and Sudafed and Netflix No ones given me a straight answer|0 I agree with you we cant believe China and the only reason the US isnt reporting more is because the rules to test are strict and weve tested less than 500 while SK does 10000 a day It is a big deal Spanish Flu big deal at least Some of the video snuck out of China is insane The only reason places like Fox News or people like Rush Limbaugh and trump say its no big deal is because their only concern is their wallet and the stock market tanked There is a solid 40 percent of people around me that believe all they hear from them is gospel They would be like the Chinese lady in the video wiping snot on elevator buttons to own the libsI can tell you how bad the hospital situation will be if 1520 are severe cases Im a paramedic in Pittsburgh The hospitals here are frequently at capacity just from generic flu and all the COPD here There will not be enough beds There will certainly not be enough doctors nurses and respiratory techs This is going to burn through nursing homes rapidly and those folks are so sickly anyway they will rapidly take the icu beds and limited ventilators Imagine losing a third of hospital staff due to quarantine Imagine losing multiple ambulances due to quarantined crew We only carry 2 masks on the truck and theres no way to get more until the next day I suspect ambulances are going to be an excellent way for someone to catch covid19 due to the time constraints were under and decon methods People are selfish desperate and needy on their good days if things get bad they will be ridiculous and not think straight I can totally forsee violence and madness if people are quarantined for extended periods and of course damn near everyone is armedIf people didnt believe in universal healthcare before I bet they will soonMy only wish is that we find a fast test to see if we have good immunity from the virus after weve had it So hopefully I could recover be immune and get back on the road|0 You think he is required to pay your bills too for some reasonMight aswell give me a handie if youre gonna reach that far The state of fucking redditors|0 Have you heard the story of singing happy birthday twice when you wash your handsNo Its not a story normally told|1 Authoritarian lockdowns arent really a thing here Doubtful well have the same containment success|1 Please stop trying to turn this into some grand conspiracy The next few months are going to be bad enough as it is|0 Dear China if you take my Idris away I swear to god the world will come for you|1 I made a throw away for this purpose Im in a very specific role that would be very easy to narrow down and my name is in my username so I need to be careful All of us that can work from home need to Upper management needs to pull the plug or we all need to leave at once Stay safe|1 I agree with your concern but this is not a real issue Its just a political decision to make and can be done in a snap if there is will|1 no make it last|0 Ill have to check it out when I get to the home from work and can mess with it Ill reply back|0 Sure I guess when u put it in perspective its quite good Im uneducated so Im not sure the effect of coronavirus on a nation that wasnt like China or how much China has concealed trust issues after they tried to cover it up for 2 weeks so its hard to say If we had definite stats and more importantly time then it seems wed be able to say if corona virus is really an epidemic or not|1 Agreeing with you here DNA vaccines have a ton of benefits over other types of vaccinces A big one being scalability This company as well as moderna in Boston have been working exclusively with mRNA and DNA vaccines for years and have seen incredible results The development of this is moving at an unprecedented rate and is really an admirable example of how well the scientific community can work together in times of crisis Source was at conference with Kate Broderick this week where we talked about the development of the vaccine|1 Yea he is high risk Even if it didnt kill him it would very very unfun Make sure he washes his hands and never leaves the house With Amazon you can do that now Im just soaking every package with lysol before I touch it and letting it dry|1 Sounds like any decreases then could be false hope|1 No People keep posting comments about how awful it is how terrible when will it go away Breathlessly Get a grip|0 If it set off a rash of infections like whats happening in Washington state the economic ramifications would make 350 million look like couch change|1 Only if you are a wallstreet or government scumbagOtherwise everyone who doesnt still have their heads up their asses on the jUsT a FlU wagon still know what this is|0 my bad should have included the s Its sold out pretty much everywhere in the US|0 People clearly still dont understand how this is spreading Literally just getting your food handled by someone else is the risk Coronavirus isnt like ok cool I will be good and just stay here and just never leave the Taco Bell kitchen and just somehow magically render myself nondeadly thus freeing everyone up to get their taco on safely Literally the issue is with the people touching the food that will be spreading the virus into said tacos And yet I just know those drivethrus are still packed In all of this I do feel for all the food workers who are just in the worst spot Its a loselose situation for everyone ElPasoTacoKitsGetHoardedNext|1 As a customer I get your frustration Im just saying they tried atleast Brightside Sorry|0 Reminds me of how they handled the gas crisis under Carter|0 AHS has admitted to community spread in Alberta Theres no hiding it|0 Well when you work on the honor system then obviously|1 I have our half p95 masks used for renovation etc work If they start using them I will drop at least one of the two off with filters It might be both but being a high risk household scares me Ill do it if I know they are switching over though Its more impactful|0 Viral RNA does not automatically mean live virus is present in the fecal matter Like I said I havent had the chance to read the full thing yet and it wasnt entirely clear from the abstract how they detected virus|0 I dont believe them But no point saying it to anyone as its socially not acceptable to doubt society is lied to I also wonder where are those amazing journalists you know the ones who changed the history in the past by publishing big things like watergate There are people working really hard being a detectives And some really brave people who would publish that and make it public|1 If this is true then I feel a tad bit better about my chances of fighting off the Covid 19|1 its very simple Those who know were diagnosed Thats how they knew and it is being recorded If they then proceed to infect innocent people they knowingly commited an act that will lead either to death of the other person or destroy their lives This should be punishable by death no less If someone is knowingly giving you HIV for their sexual pleasure they dont deserve to remain among the living It is very simple|0 Dont give them that option then My government is mostly stuck with the same hospital as I am unless they can afford to travel abroad for it and good luck getting reelected if they do|1 This is good Tourist places arent going anywhere They are welcome once this pandemic is curbed|1 This sub is so insanely pessimistic IF the US does this correctly yes big IF they wont need to do what Hubei province did We will soon have the capacity to test 1 million people a week That plus isolation of KNOWN cases not the wholesale shut it all down approach they had to take in Hubei due to massive panic crushing hospitals is how SK is handling it and I think its the best approach This will not be anywhere close to the EnD TiMeS1Downvote if you like|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 But sadly mostly with the elderly and people with health issues The weak old and poor are far more likely to suffer andor die from this than these assholes I dont believe in karma but hope it somehow does exist|0 On the one hand I hope his case is severe only because he had a high viral load Maybe I can avoid that because I am in a moderate risk groupOn the other if thats true then the medical profession is about to be decimated globallyThird possibility He just had very very bad luck I hope thats it|1 Im worried about lack of testing|0 Well I was reading up on that The 3K bill was for a bunch of other tests as well The Covid19 tests shouldnt be more than 1K|1 Same I had flulike symptoms last week and tried their online screening service Not interested unless youve been to a country on their list or in close contact with a confirmed case The problem with advice to stay at home is a proportion of people get worse anyway as an Italian doctor saidhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsffabokmustreadtestimonyfromsurgeonworkingatheartThey followed all the recommendations given a week or ten days at home with a fever without going out to prevent contagion but now they cant take it anymore They dont breathe enough they need oxygen|0 Update your advance directives sign up for or update life insurance so your family is taken care of update your will and get it notarized for your family or relatives Check your health insurance coverage create a dowry to pass onto grand children when youre not around make a few investments in stock and write a legal authorization for a family member to access the stock and funds when youre gone|1 I love this Is the healthcare worker also a food from Wuhan Or maybe another location It looks like a marshmallow to me|1 Youre right but I bet you cant put it on the side of a bus or a billboard or on a TV commercial so really your places to use it get limited pretty quick|1 Growth is accelerating yeah so I wont bet against anything|1 Yeah absolutely nothing done in Alberta so far we need the NDP back at least they cared about us|1 Seems you support murder then And I havent heard you say you disagree with censoring the internet or struggle sessions All methods of concealing the truth to control public opinion Im sure you agree with it though I cant continue this argument because you have your way of thinking and I have mine But lies will always be brought to light just remember that |0 good start on the road to herd immunity|1 Dang this stuff is really scary to me now|0 Americans are finally getting a glimpse of what has really been going on behind the scenes which has been nothing We had since the beginning of January to go allin and start preparing getting test kits produced in mass quantities and 1000 other moving parts figured out on a national state and regional level Nothing was really done in all of January all of February and first part of MarchWe had a window of opportunity to really stay on top of this with massive testing contact tracing shutting down cruises limiting flights and other travel and quarantinesLiterally every single ball was dropped everywhereNot just nationally but many states are dealing with the same fate not taking this seriously when it was obvious exactly what was coming to the US Instead most turned a blind eye for political and financial reasonsI pray for this country and the world every night Population wise the US is probably in the worst shape of any country in the world depending on where everything goes with India over time with COVID19|0 North Korea cares so much they littered their entire Southern border with mines guards and fences Such much love|1 What Why care about whether the name of a virus will catch on or not Itsa virus No matter what name this virus is given it must and will catch on anyway because this particular coronavirus had such an impact on our world Like we dont look back at historys legends and complain about their names not catching on Things are remembered for the impact its had on human society and are not dependent on what the name of said thing is|1 I absolutely feel your sadness I could happily stay home for months on end but my 10 year old son is so social and loves to go out anywhere and be with friends and family Hes involved in every club and activity his school offers Hes in fifth grade Its his last year of elementary and today is probably his last day of school for a while based on the buzz about our district shutting downHes handling it well so far but Im brokenhearted for him They cancelled his school play his big concert in June spring baseball Were not going next week to see the movie hes been absolutely freaking out to see for months Cant have play dates not even with his cousins We wont be having Easter with our extended family Who the heck knows whatll happen with the Orlando vacation weve planned for June Ive been someone who saw the writing on the wall for weeks and I WANT all these closures and shutdowns But every time they announce something new whether its local and directly affects us or news like the closings of Disney World and the Smithsonian museums Im freshly scared and so so sad I know kids are resilient and my 1 concern and priority is that my loved ones and my community and my country are safe and healthy but man this is sad for kids|1 Comments have been locked due to excessive political comments For political posts we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere Comments that focus on a specific politician rather than the outbreak are not allowed|1 Yikes I dont want to live in the same world as you Your life must be extremely sad to think this|0 I called my friends and family in January we discussed the situation immediately formed a plan and over the next few days we took measures to mitigate risk of infection and interruption of supply chains LOL jk it was a month of torturous fights humiliation and insultsAnd that in a nutshell is humanity|0 A thousand times this If I had gold to give this post I would Thank you|1 Thank you for taking the time to write all of this Im not the original poster but it helps me as well since Im starting to panic too|1 Near me too Idc what ppl say I rather be safe than sorry Our stores close to us have sold out of Lysol wipes water soap and canned foods are going too I started last week with preparations If this blows by then whatever at least I dont have to go to the store often but if it doesnt Im glad I prepared My husband thought I was crazy Ive been following this since Jan I heard a woman in Target say ppl are gonna look back and say remember when we had the coronavirus scare Out of most ppl she should probably worry a little since she was pregnant But what do I know|0 If youre near there say hi to Crandall park when you pass by I liked skiing there|1 Only 4 months until a pandemic is declared Bonds mature in July|1 My CVS in Boston was completely out of hand sanitizer yesterday afternoon I felt a little silly making a special trip out to buy some but I thought better to grab a bottle now before they sell out Seeing the empty spot on the shelf made me feel a little less sillyGot the last bottle from 7Eleven down the road|1 Im losing it here too Its happening right here|0 I agree Its a shame that people downvote different philosophical views instead of talking them out That said Lowes has capitalism pay off on my part THey are being compassionate to their employees so I will prefer to purchase from them over other companies This is how it should work|1 Just today the head of the WHO said the virus can be contained lmao|1 I agree 100 stay safe|1 No because Vermin Supreme will give us that plus a pony|1 I dont have access to their algorithms but the forecasts likely extract data based on normal operating conditions and then assess the impact of the weather A given factory normally produces x amount of pollutant y on an average working day If the wind is blowing z mph to direction A the pollutant will disperse in that direction at a given rate High and low pressure zones humidity and cloud cover also have impactsMy guess is that based on the current weather conditions and forecasts on a normal operating day it would be reasonable to expect that much Sulphur to be in the air at that location Given the reduction in industry now those forecasts are unlikely to have much value|0 I am confused Arent chaps by definition assless|0 Fool me one time shame on the banana peel Fool me 7 or more times shame on me|0 This has to do with a lack maturity in ACE2 receptors in kids|0 That amount would put me right off seeing a doctor Also of the test is positive then theres 2 weeks off work for quarentine It sounds like the wealthier people in the States are going to be at a huge advantage The only question is who will look after them when they finally catch it if many of the care workers themselves test positive|1 Congratulations Everybody has bills to pay|1 My university just shut down out of fear yet public school are still open someone I know says 4 staff are off yet they aube to stay open|0 Yup Some cases are weeks old It has probably been spreading for at least about month Its just that theyve now suddenly started testing and contact tracing more so they realized that surprise surprise they have an ongoing outbreak|1 That sort of thing is in fact one of the advantages of an autocracy|1 Dont just leave your dong lying around It can grow 8 per year if you put it in the right vehicle|0 There are a lot of links and its kind of hard to parse this website Also I cant find the actual map thats pictured in the post Is it in the link Or is it a link to a link or something|0 Oh no Im so sorry I work for a warehouse tooand our products are mostly AC parts Im scared to ask if our parts are coming from China So far management hasnt said a word about it|0 Whats scary is that you can be spreading it to people who will die without even knowing you have it Not everything is about how it directly hurts you|0 Everybody knows that making people sick can kill them|0 they wasted all that time gloating about le evil ccp|0 I only casually smoke 1 pack a day so Im not a smoker syndrome People might not want to disclose their smoking status if they feel they will be viewed negatively like it is the case here|1 If there is a neuroinvasive effect and it infects certain regions in the brain everything we know so far points to it being reversible|1 They drop the ball on this and there will be a lot of people calling for heads|0 Thank you for the reply This indeed is the war of humanity and were on the same side The reason for all my posts is to keep more people away from unnecessary fear Glad it works|0 Agreed I lived in China for years including through SARS and while China definitely fiddles with statistics they can also take extremely effective action when necessary My buddy in Wuhan sees this all as more of an inconvenience and thinks its already sort of dying down Its not the zombie apocalypse|1 Wuhan went into full lockdown at 600 cases and had medical support of rest of China Italy did the same at 5000 cases and isnt getting much from rest of EUShould mentally prepare yourself it will be worse than Wuhan|0 I mean of course they will overreact because of the potential However they are urging everyone to be calm to make it easier to contain the virus If panic takes over the whole population the chances of spreading to other countries would be higher So its pretty fine and albeit should be mandatory that they act calm yet impose draconian measures to keep this all in check Besides its in their interest to get this over with because Wuhan and the Hubei province is crucial for their economy highspeed rail network and BRI|1 I probably wasnt in contact but who knows of courseMy obvious point is just that the normal lagtimes on this stuff seem to render quarantines ineffective to useless|0 Aw crumbs Im disappointed|0 Thats seriously so fucked Last week my boss said we all have to be prepared to work from home for an extended period just in case it comes to our area At first I thought he was being alarmist but now I appreciate his flexibility and priorities|1 I honestly havent seen any blaming only the opposite Its just better to have prepared than not have Thad all Im saying Good luck mate|1 she gave him a little financial support|1 Well eating wild animals did cause this virus in China so hunting may not be the best of ideas either|0 I thought you are legally allowed to home school your children anyway Surely you could just home school your children until September|1 And the golden sticker for the No Shit award goes to|0 The curremt top post of rmademesmile is Jim Carrey giving his cure for depression The quote doesnt even mention the biggest part in getting help Talking to a doctor|1 Most people in the US didnt notice when the China cases spiked really high that one day they started including clinical diagnosis Although this is coming to the US so Ill expect the typical reaction of theyre coming to Texas but I live in Texas 400 miles away and Im just going to assume theyre going to let them out to roam my street The CDC is incompetent I have nothing to base this on but the patients are near meeee|0 Can I get a source on his lungs failing I have seen he needs oxygen support but nothing indicating his lungs are failing Plenty of people need oxygen support due to respiratory illnesses that doesnt mean their lungs are failing|0 A lot of countries have bad food safety hygiene I think China should commended more than anything for locking things down as quickly as they did|1 Yeah hotels arenas etc Were not using them anyway|1 Any sacrifice you can make I would make it Every little bit of distancing and limiting social interaction like going to events we can make we should do Everyone has to play a part in kicking this virus in its ass|1 This has been going on forever Fun fact thats how Spanish Flu got its nameDuring World War 1 both the central powers and the US allies were hit with a flu strain pretty hard but both sides downplayed their numbers because they didnt want to appear weak Spain being neutral didnt censor their numbers and as a result it looked like it hit them hardest Both sides were fine calling it Spanish Flu and passing the blame|0 I get the impression its more of an advancedexpertlevel blood test right now|1 No one EVER listens to me about things in the futurestocks weather this virusIn fact they got angry with me for continually bringing it upso youre goddamn right Im going for the I told you sos|0 Yeah we know but it would be much more helpful for academics students the entire world if we could use this as a springboard to overhaul publishing practices|1 Besides the IQ statement you are absolutely right The virus was here before we even knew about it There is no way to find it or contain it Most cases will be mild There will be a percentage that will be more severe that will need hospitalization If it were broadcasted and people panicked our hospital systems would collapse everyone running in to get diagnosed and the store shelves would be empty Stay calm people|0 I feel sorry for anyone in London I cant help but think with the way no one is taking this serious and how everyone moves around via public transport in close contact London is gonna be the most fucked place in Europe Its getting properly medieval in this country Whod of thought in 2020 wed be regressing this much Austerity Brexit Pandemic no doubt global recession to follow Happy days everyone|0 The sick have been taken ashore The rest of the passengers are confined to their cabins|0 Thank you for the comment but most people my age are holding up signs or obsessed over something political My only concern is to acquire enough capital to afford not to have to deal with these idiots when welfare collapses and job outsourcing causes them to riot even a 10 chance of death would not stop me from showing up to work I would rather die then be poorI am also aware this is a big deal I work for one the largest food producer on the west coast I normally do FDA regulated Critical control points paperwork on a large portion of the outgoing food productsI have received a memo about how to handle sick people In short It appears we have been instructed to just send people home until they are not sick This only applies to people with a fever above 100 This memo is basically useless as people can spread Corona for 10 days before developing a fever Enjoy your food everyone its FDA approved|0 Nice|1 Italy is already a partner in the BR Initiative I trust the Italian people can make sound economic decisions for themselves China sending masks is just a gesture of goodwill for the assistance Italy provided And dont talk as if the average folks arent capable of feeling empathy for others There are so many videos of average Chinese citizens being thankful to the people of Japan Korean Italy and so on Im glad China is using this opportunity to pay back|1 in more than 35 states at will employment states no notice is required So no that is incorrect statement|0 This study suggests that reinfection can occur with SARS and that the presence of low levels of antibodies can actually help it along httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed25073113Hopefully not the case with this virus though|1 pretty much|1 The UK government advice is to wash your hands while singing happy birthday The length of the song equals the length of time needed to fully clean your handsItalyWe are closing the country for the protection of our most vulnerableUK Wash your hands while singing happy birthday we will take it on the chin|1 they test person with flu like symptom when he visits the clinichospital in 5 primate cities Considering the low number of confirmed cases its reasonable|0 Being a prepper Ive been fighting my husband for years about stocking up on food and supplies Before coronavirusHusband What Another 50 lb bag of rice How many of those do we needAfter coronavirus I went to Goodwill to stock up on Fiction books for our time of isolation back in early FebruaryHusband What Why are you buying books You cant eat books Thats a waste of spaceLol His tune changed quickly|0 Prodigy My kids loved that game|1 Just want to say thank you for sharing this I am not Asian but I have a lot of Japanese family members I was concerned they would get the brunt of this but now it seems we all need to be on alert|1 When is the United states doing this My applebees manager is coercing me into coming into work I have a 2 week long bronchitis and all viral test come up negative A hospital and a patient first facility denied me a coronavirus test I need help please|1 Not many recommendations from anyone has been taken serious by the government tbh|0 Have you not seen the videos of incompetent Hong Kong health officials telling the public to steam their masks an idea instantly slammed by actual health professionals If the Hong Kong people still had faith in their shitty government the coronavirus outbreak would have been much worse|0 This is extremely important|1 Downvoted but this is fact But you just have to know which hospitals to go to Knew a straight homeless person as of recent who got treated for a serious medical condition and was in hospital care for 5 weeks It is possible to get care even if you cant pay it back Now if all the hospitals are full well yeah u fucced|1 Unable to go out the 29yearold is now sealed inside her compound where she has to depend on online groupbuying services to get foodLiving for at least another month isnt an issue Guo told AFP explaining that she had her own stash of pickled vegetables and salted eggsThe rest of the article goes on about group buying and how the selection and options suck End of story|0 I work for a City in Florida and we received an email today that out of precaution the city has created coordination team to build a mitigation strategy I was happy to see they are taking this seriously|1 Aw cancer partners unite Im with ya Its gonna be a long few months for us all Being over a certain age 42 here I find that Im just way less likely to put up with bullshit Dont poke the middle aged grumpy bear If ya wanna chat ever feel free to DM|0 Thanks COV|1 Also the health director in change of infectious diseases in the Daegu local government was a cult member That didnt help things He got the virus because of course he did and tried to hide that he was a cult member|0 Surprised he didnt tell us all to go to the Winchester have a pint and wait for this to blow over|1 Is this almost the same way that the virus has a memory of being attacked and killed thus leading to evolving into a different novel virus I guess but opposite So the baby not having any knowledge of the evolved strain it is fresh enough to fight it and will then build almost an immunity to that particular strain of virus Like a natural vaccination if you will I am just a dude on the internet thinking out of my ass So I am just connecting dots that is all|0 A NYT editorial board member thought Bloomberg could distribute 1 million to every American instead of spending 500 million on his campaign Average people are far more dumb|0 You are not putting 145165 degree water on your hands which is the temperature range at which common bacteria start to die off You dont heat water to 110120 degrees to make it safe to drink you boil it|0 I will be messaging you in 1 year on 20210312 214347 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202103122021434720UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfhmq3tshowingborishowitshouldbedonemacronfkcb6gfcontext31 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirusUK2Fcomments2Ffhmq3t2Fshowingborishowitshouldbedonemacron2Ffkcb6gf2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202021031220213A433A4720UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fhmq3tInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Wasnt it 21 million yesterday Im not guessing I watched Mike Pence say it He said 21 million tests on Monday and 4 million by the end of the week I guess a million disappeared overnight|0 Fuck jeff bezos|0 theres a joke here somewhere about March Madness but Im to lazy to make it|0 Thanks We are trying Its nice to hear that some people think we are doing the right thing Just hope everyone can all make it through with the minimum of damage really|1 Well sending the children home is doing the same thing its a kind of soft quarantine when you think about it because the parents need to stay at home to look after their children No babysitter in their right mind would accept to sit possibly infected children|0 Gloves will only get you so far This thing is airborne just being in the same room as an infectious person will put you at risk|0 Well yes people should get time off work when having cold or flu so that we dont have to later|1 I think few cared that time most videos of CGTN have only a few thousand views Today I read the news that CDC of china sent sequently three teams to Wuhan to investigate this novel virus since Dec 31 and the third team eventually announced person to person transmission on 20th of January Wuhan local government hided the information that some doctors and nurses were infected for the first two teams|1 So I wonder how long itll be before we realize its in every state or probably 34 of them When are we going to be proven right and get some much needed validation so these Flu Bro Fuckers start being more careful|0 Im betting they messed up here A lot of people dont realize that they bill so high because they charge more if you are insured The main reason is because insurance companies hold the cards and can deny a charge so it gives hospitals room to negotiate down especially if they are under contract with the insurance company It says on the bill they had a copay and deductible so OP should request the itemized bill and its most likely it will go down when they realize OP is responsible for all that Not because they are fucking around but because they were probably figuring most of it would be covered by OPs insuranceAnd no Im not defending them its stupid how this shit works but because we cant ever get sensible legislation to fix this dumb shit we are stuck with it|0 Youre not the only one I work for a mid size company we sell international too Every time we hear that factories are gonna be closed for another week we get more and more worried Idk how long we can stay like this|0 As a nurse I am terrified for this reason Everyone is being exposed and getting sick No body is be long educated to prevent the infection and told to only wear masks after being exposedyet we are being exposed without knowing I work in home care and have been wearing my own mask now|0 That number is not as important as you may think this early Its a warning flag at best but clearly does not reflect the actual number of deaths per reported cases The data will be South Korea since they have done the most aggressive testing and even if the numbers may still go up they have 06 CFR|1 I was disgusted when I got an email from Smoothie King and instead of taking steps to protect their employees they announced a free immune booster smoothieEdit heres the email Note the lack of anything to protect their employees encouraging sick employees to stay home certainly no mention of sick leave for them just the normal platitudes and the immune booster offerThe Coronavirus What Were Doing To Help Keep Our Guests Healthy Free Immune SupportSmoothie Kings mission is to inspire a healthy and active lifestyle On behalf of our almost 1100 stores we feel its important to reach out to you about what were doing in our stores to ensure our guests and team members stay healthy and safe with the recentoutbreak of Coronavirus COVID19 We always strive to have clean wellrun stores but we have taken additional precautions in light of recent eventsIncreased the frequency and rigor of cleaning in all stores so were sanitizing multiple times per dayRetrained team members to ensure theyre maintaining good personal hygiene Suspended the use of personal refillable cupsPaused smoothie and snack samplingTo help you stay healthy and active during this challenging time the following are available to our guestsHelp keep your immune system strong with our Immune Buildersmoothie or add our immune support and multivitamin enhancers to any smoothieStarting Tuesday March 17th guests will be able to add an immune support enhancer to their smoothie for FREE All you need to do is use your Healthy Rewards app and unlock the reward at time of purchaseOrder online via our app or website and pick up your order using the drive thru where available or pick up counter in order to minimize contact with othersUphold our commitment to only blending smoothies made with whole fruits veggies real fruit juices and never anyartificial flavors colors or preservatives to help you on your health and fitness journey whatever that may be Check out our Clean Blends Promise and complete nono listhereThis situation continues to change quickly so we will remain vigilant continue to monitor the situation and update our guests regularly We are grateful for your loyalty and are committed to providing you with a great experience We will do our best to keep our stores open so we can continue to support you and your health wellness and only close if it is in the communities or our team members best interestSincerelyWan Kim Smoothie King CEO|1 Id imagine it would be fairly simple for any molecular lab to get a PCR diagnostic service running especially diagnostic labs the way this has been handled in the US is sad|0 Yea Im well aware the dormant state may be well over 50 days Heres hoping she didnt inhale it aerosolized or end up with it making contact with an eye or ear or oh yeah touched anything that someone with coronavirus touched 9 days prior Bc the out of body life is 9 days|1 Ok sorry I did not attach it because it was a link Can it still remain open|1 When crazy meets reality And then hopefully the crazies learn a lesson they wont|1 All Italians are Europeans correct not what he inferredAll Europeans are Italians wrong what he did infer|0 What I read was that the older kits CAN be used for this virus and therefore could ALWAYS have been used but labs were banned from using themIm not seeing how this disproves it either This has been super shady from the jump|1 As someone whos over 60 Trump should remain inside his home Trump Tower and leave running the government to the adults s|0 Theres something ridiculous about being in the middle of possibly the worst pandemic in 100 years and Americans wondering if their insurance will cover treatment|0 Yes its what he said|1 College student health care is typically decent through the school|1 Only if more voters can be sensible like you rather than straight up buying that Trump crap|1 the number will not stop there because the infection rate is too fast|1 Yeah but then you have a wet mask that needs to dry out|1 People seem to have a bone to pick with China anytime theres seemingly bad press theyre quick to jump on the bandwagon with their pitchforks but often neglect to give credit when credits due While the arrests seem overboard which Id agree censoring of info may be necessary to contain the spread of misinformation and there was so much of it and also to minimise chaos and panic itll trigger In this day and age people want instant info this is at the expense of unverified content and source|0 Can you please explain|1 Damn really hoops me and my family make it to my wedding in September|0 Id be curious as to what affect the recent bushfires had on peoples lung health|1 The big state universities in the USA make bank on the Chinese students Most have very generous rates for instate students often capped by legislature but they can charge foreign students whatever they want And they do And there are enough that will pay it|1 They used to have a detention center there for illegal boat immigrants was shut down but not that long ago|0 If Martenson is sketchy why has he published on NATURE Why is he so much respected by serious peopleGet real|1 Crap weather is to your advantage Lowers the competition improves the odds of getting what you need|1 Lmao fuck off|1 No shit Sherlock For the love of God make all this official and stuff My friends still say its just a flu its just a flu They think Im over worried over the fact that there are now three confirmed cases near where we live They are to care free about this|1 Lets quarantine everyone with infectious diseases while were at it It their fault they got sick right Wake up|0 It means that they believe in the fact that the patients have the virus but need to CDC to confirm said cases for them to be considered approved|1 advantages|1 He has all the good shit|0 Working on it getting some non perishables just in case as well|1 You never had the flu before|1 I have no clue I have been following this closely for a while and saw news reports of it being off the shelves in other countries I preemptively stocked up on Amazon a couple weeks ago just in case that happened in the states too Sure enough several of my friends have said theres none or next to none in the shelves at stores now|1 Im a pharmacy tech and have had so many people question why we werent protecting ourselves But at the same time we have a lot of people yelling at us because of the craze and not being able to stock up on their medications|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Do you believe USA will allow full participation at ConExpo in Las Vegas This is one of the largest globally attended events in the category with 128000 people March 1014th|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronavirusuk About masks preventing outbreakhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfdt4xjaboutmaskspreventingoutbreaknbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Misleading headline Hubei province not all of china27 people have died of flu in Arkansas this winter|0 Not everything is closed but a lot are Its mainly because everyone outside is wearing masks depending on your apartmentcomplex area there may be more strict rules on who can come inquarantine rules etc Also events are cancelled and people are just staying home all day Encouraged not to socialize Just a lot of the stuff in the OP Smaller businesses feel the economic impact already Streets are way more empty etcPersonally if I were in another country Id stay there for a while|0 Love this but also worried about the patients getting sick again after being declared as cured|0 Im sorry if that section is misleading Im open to revising the titles In my post history youll see Ive been quite vocal about the extent of the initial Wuhan coverup Ill paste one such message below There was a coverup in the first month and a half or so of the Wuhan outbreak by local provincial governments at least I know theres some finger pointing now but frankly I dont know how high up it wasIt is both a great shame and tragedy and this outbreak could have been stopped much faster with less effort if not for this deliberate coverupWhat I meant there is is there a current coverup responsible for the divergence in data TODAY And my point is it doesnt really matter because actually theres other issues with the data|0 I understand your definition but that is a very modern cherry picked version of PC It usually is just used to say not offending certain political groups I doubt the definition you provided would have existed even 10 years agoIm probably a bit older than you but the phrase has been in common usage with the meaning I gave for 35 years Someone 10 years ago would absolutely understand it specifically meaning the way I described And pretty much the next line of Wikipedia agrees with me on both points Since the late 1980s the term has been used to describe a preference forinclusive languageand avoiding language or behavior that can be seen asexcluding marginalizing or insulting groups of people considered disadvantaged or discriminated against especially groups defined by sex or race|0 I feel like Cassandra among my friends and twitter randoms|1 Exactly This is not the flu Its astounding to witness and yet people dont take this seriously As if China would do this without serious concern |1 haha you would probably have to fly overseas|1 Hey thank you I really appreciate it|1 100 agreed Its lunacy Especially given that the last 2 days have had a jump over 60 I believe|1 The developed world is taking this seriously Our president is rage tweeting and eating hamberders probably sniffing some drugs and making up bullshit talking about ratings|0 You and me both I thought Id get away from it being in Iowa but theres cases popping up here too unfortunately|0 Rick we have you surrounded Now put the modem gently down on the floor put your hands up in the air and take two steps back Dont make me do thisinto mic Sniper 1 take the shot Turn him off like a switch right behind the ear|1 Considering how much infected people like to travel id say well have the virus on the moon by fall|1 I get so much more done at home Im not naturally a social butterfly so people suck up my time in the office and at home they arent able to do that because I ignore their chatty nonwork related Skypes I dont like work friendships but other people do and probably think we are real friends just because Im socially awkward and dont know how to ignore them without feeling like a bad person I prefer remote working|0 Also our people in power are looking at their cash flow and dont want to cause a panic that could potentially affect that Potentially save lives and get a handle on the virus or protect my investments and bank account|1 America wont be able to contain this and I think the feds have just accepted it The ones in power are busy planning how to take advantage of the epidemic There are political opportunities here if the epidemic is bad enough that only comes by a few times each century|1 Some techniques there I had never thought of thank you|0 I didnt think about differences in energy source If your natural gas is cheaper than your electricity then yeah your costs would be cheaper|1 Thanks Icy for bringing news to us here Praying for you and all in Wuhan|1 Already told mine that there will be no sleep over or friend visits|1 All bars and public facilities have been shut down in my county because people refuse to listen|0 Yeah Im hearing that a lot from trump supporters on Facebook|1 Get help right away it goes like that until it suddenly strikes and you can barely breathe|1 I understand this anxiety makes you focus hard on the thing you fear most Try to remember that youre informed and prepared as well as you can be and do find someone else a counselor to talk about the fear and anxiety Seriously just talking about it goes a long wayYou arent wrong to be concerned because its a serious situation but you shouldnt exclude everything else in your life either Let someone help you by listening and try to get some exercise even if you do it at home Burning off some of that stress will help your sleep You really need good sleep|1 I did a 10 day cruise in an inside with two kids overhead in pulmans That was terrible To be quarantined like that would be pure hellGood luck getting through this Hope you brought books|1 thanks so much 3|1 More like hold my sakeJapan is full of closeminded old farts that refused to changeMaybe after all of them die Japan finally can raise for the better|0 Dozens of people die from phenomena every year its just not widely reported|0 Yikes Yeah maybe Thats insane|0 Have you seen how many serious flu viruses start in chickenspigsducks Syphilis came from sheep Cows Well cows are delicious I wont have anything bad said about cows|1 True about Swine flu And I forgot at the beginning of that there were a few tense months where we didnt know how bad it would get|1 Hes adapting and listening I appreciate it|1 Ugh same Ive been telling people to stock up for a month some have but one guy in particular literally only decided to when we had a confirmed case in our small city and the entire city was panickingAll the advice and help in the world cant cure stupid|1 I will be messaging you in 2 days on 20200317 022623 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003172002262320UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfiu8xqwashingtonpostsimulatesspreadofinfectionfkj8s2qcontext32 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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which Ive been buying for 50p from Lidl being sold on for 25 I have a good few of the bottles and Im in need of the money but I refuse to sell hand sanitizer for a horrendous markup during a global viral outbreak apparently this is different from a pandemic for some reason because Im not a fucking monster|0 They can NOT understand I was just trying to explain to some fool on Facebook She said you do whats best for your family and Ill do the same Staying inside isnt whats BEST for my family we arent the ones who are likely to get critically ill But we can spread it Were also slowly going insane and its only been a few days Were thinking beyond ourselves and doing whats beet for EVERYONE especially those who are vulnerable People are the fucking worst|0 Npr sources say Sounds like a legit source|1 Youre not helping|0 yeah but as the virus also damages heart and kidneys and sometimes causes inflammation of all organs I doubt its the greatest factor|1 For people who are supposed to be educated on topics like running a hospital and preparing for an epidemic I have to say that the US hospital healthcare industry look like a bunch of stupid jerks Theyve had months and months to prepare for this pandemic They could have stocked up on masks and PPE for their workers but they chose not to And now theyre looking just like a bunch of stupid jerks who failed to prepare for what was obviously coming even though they had months to get ready I dont know why anyone would trust them or listen to their crappy advice at this pointI dont mean to sound disrespectful to your friend but it seems to be a common theme in that industry You tried to warn her She blew off your warnings And now shes upset and doesnt understand why nobody warned her SMHYou did all you can do shared the information you had told her to get ready I realize that your friend doesnt call all the shots where she works but the higherups had a lot of chances to avoid the situation theyre in right now|0 If this happens before they protect the AMERICAN PEOPLE I hope we riot|1 From what Ive seen people are concerned because first responders keep ending up in quarantine situations because they arent being prepared properly for responses to people who possibly have coronavirusYoure right that its not confirmed yet if this woman did but its still possible and indicative of a larger issue weve been seeing repeatedly in the past several days If left unaddressed this could lead to widespread issues Youre right panic isnt necessary but there is genuine cause for concern here|0 And yet still walking around potentially spreading it A trend among lots of people getting tested and still walking around potentially infected until they get the results|0 They probably have shit families All my grandparents are dead and Im very glad because they were all awful people but I married into a wonderful family full of elderly people who are nice and Im scared for them I guess I can see both sides Its really hard when the old people in your family dont love youThey should really just shut up about it though|0 this will kill 100s of millions of people within a few years I fear It was designed as a killing machine|0 Maybe maybe not It is just as likely that not reacting enough would cause recessiondepression If China did not react strongly as they did they would be demonized and blamed by the rest of the world We should listen to the disease experts not the politicians The disease experts know what the actual dangers are the politicians in the US do not|0 They are mandated by the state and CDC but I think you are right People need to be held accountable and understand the penalties for breaking quarantine To be fair this is still new here in the States at least its new that anyone is testing or paying any attention to COVID19 so Im sure that protocol will become more organized Quarantined people need supports if they are to truly be quarantined Its likely that camps are easier for the government to assist them So many people have not prepared to stay home for a month They will be a risk for breaking quarantine|1 Even if youre negative now you may become infected tomorrow|0 The world is going to be like The Stand in a few weeks Captain Tripps man Watch out for The Walking Dude MOON that spells conspiracys|1 Yes This also happens at my school A year 8 boy explained he was playing cough chasy at recess|1 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronavirusbaltimore Can anyone in Baltimore help herhttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusBaltimorecommentsfiwu84cananyoneinbaltimorehelphernbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 If you didnt agree to let them yesBut you do because its your examMost campuses do offer an oncampus alternative if you would prefer|0 And that wouldnt have been a problem with a competent prepared and expecting administration that is willing to take fast action to protect Americas interests during this timeThat largely being economic stability The federal government could easily bankroll your average citizens ability to self quarantine for 1 to 2 months and still pay bills avoiding a grinding halt of an economy Its essentially like any other stimulus package except its more extensiveInstead that gets spent on trillion dollar tax breaks|1 Are utility and grocery bills suddenly going down after the crisis|0 Having this same conversation w my wife I vote for shutting it down too soon rather than too late If you time it wrong then a month from now you need the ICU at exactly the time when the healthcare system has collapsed She disagrees andor is still trying to processaccept the new reality|0 Gosh Im so sorry I have the audacity to worry about my career prospects and being homeless as a single mom with a child How selfish of me|0 httpsyoutubeOtP80Z08lfgIn 2010 the US History Channel back when it actually had good content made a documentary movie about what would happen if a flu pandemic destroyed modern life as we know it Its available free on YouTube atleast for now|1 Show the argument in symbolic form Mr EducatedThis is a simple deduction|0 Can the rest of the world do this tooWell we do and not just for the coronavirus and not just for our citizen everyone in Italy get all the free medical assistance that he can handle|1 Fuck Like the great recession Where it was reallocated to the richestSo this is probably just going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer Typical|1 This article isnt about young people Its ab ok ut middle aged people Only 8 percent of the hospitalizations are people from 25 to 45 and 0 of the hospitalizations are people below 25 Misleading headline|0 If you realize you have very recently like hours come in contact with someone that has or likely has the virus is there anything at that moment you can do to reduce your chances of infection andor spread the infection Besides quarantineAlso my wife is pregnant 1st trimester and her doctor just told her shes not allowed to travelfly at all and should completely avoid going to work restaurants or any public place at all until she gives birth Do you agree with these recommendations|1 Long Island NY On social media everyone says this is all fear mongering and still making fun of people for eating toilet paper People are eating out and going out because nothing will stop them to live their life IRL everyone is clearing out Costco and have been for the week At least lots of people are getting prepared but we are all going to work and school mostly pretending nothing is happening Some people have started taking it more seriously and expressing concern for the challenge ahead of healthcare workers Especially since yesterday Many venues have taken the initiative especially after Cuomos address I would too I wouldnt want to be the next Princess Cruise|0 I thought it was established that Thailand medical news is probably not a super reliable source About 50 of their about page is just a weird selection of photos with the Thai royal family|0 Yes Proof China government suing for an apology because of an image netherlands newspaper printed|1 This And ohhh the irony of Trump and the administration possibly being infected Matt Gaetz aka evil blockhead who was mocking the situation with wearing his gas mask is also possibly infected|0 It will go away Hopefully but how many will it take with it|1 Between yes or noThere is no inbetween you cant deny the facts when its present to you by the experts in science over some foreign minister who spread false conspiracy theories in CHINA x200BAnd did I say no it didnt originate from ChinaAlso you are the one who accused saying Noble prize winner to isnt necessarily right all the time Many of them have made stupid comments which implies that you do not consider China flu or COVID19 to be originated from Wuhan x200BAnd fuck off if you want to put labels on my head and put words in my mouth A good job on losing your credibility personally attacking people with cursing words wont get anywhere and Winnie the Flu is impressed Cheers Rest of the world|1 Mask alone isnt enough you need goggles too|0 Clearly the brain boxes big science fair experiment to infect us all hasnt gone down as well as those fuck wits had hopedStrict and immediate social distancing needs to be enforced nowMy family is in isolation from now until this thing is over Pretending life can carry on with any semblance of normality is ludicrous at this pointPeople will obey the measure when the death toll begins to riseFuck their behavioural science experiment|0 Since theyre dealing wiht outbreaks all the time Id say their epidemiologistsGPs know probably more about this than most of western GP who were never exposed to anything like that|1 I hope Trump is infected and has a hot steamy makeout session with Mitch McConnell|0 Might want to get a new doctor|1 Please do not panic I get exactly what your saying My daughter works with an older retired population on her job The government cannot take you anywhere Use common sensewith precautions Wash your hands frequently especially before and after contact with your clients Do your best to avoid close contact with other peoples faces If anyone coughing sneezing or runny nose etc try keep your distance or perhaps use mask Dont let the stupid silly rumors scare you Talk to your Dr about your concerns because you are diabetic Hope you feel better Breath and relax dont let this consume you|1 The main epidemic situation is only on the West Coast which is under control The government is actually taking many measures to deal with it Other cities have little impact I believe it will be restored soon|1 I mean that comment is more correct than the paper They did indeed cherrypick some matches which are not unique to HIV in the slightest You can answer with xD le reddit again but thats not a question of credentials its a question of fundamental scientific concepts And speaking of that this would be a really crappy bioweapon seeing as HIV gp120 which is highly specialized for binding Tcellspecific CD4 receptors would not help infect lung cells and the rest of the reason HIV is deadly has far more to it than the receptor proteins Its because the virus can hide away in immune cells for years and thats a function of very specialized proteins that the rest of the virus codes for|0 Here in SoCal the nearest Costco we go to is out of anything useful went with my family and didnt really come back with much Been trying to convince them to go earlier but it seems like its too late now I think were good on food for a few weeks but not having rice sucks|1 This is what the USA will look like in a week or two|1 Right Its wild Thank you I really appreciate that|1 If utilities and landlords are disconnecting and evicting people during a national health emergency then there should be riots in the streets Not the normal American riots where a few windows get broken and a few trash cans get burned Im talking the kind of riots where people are dragged into the streets and hung dead from lampposts Where entire skyscrapers are burned to ash|0 Do you understand why they are saying that Common sense will tell you that it is actually the case The 3 number is greatly skewed That number came out when the death rate in the US was at 7 because a nursing home community got infected Think about how many times that has happened outside of the us That results in quick successive deaths that outpace the recovery and infection rates This skews that number to be higher than the actual rate Not to mention the cases that go undetected because they never become severe enough to warrant medical attention or arent tested The number is and will be significantly lower as time goes on and a PROPER sample size is observed|0 thank you for making sub|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 The good news is that you are young and would survive it I mean no not necessarily We know some percent of people in that age range will die and a larger percent will be forever damaged by the virus There are plenty of young people in China and Italy on ventilators and druginduced comas|0 Nothing like tip toeing around the only action you can take|0 Its this kind of generosity and ingenuity that will get us through this|1 I saw a limit 10 boxes sign on masks at Lowes and they were all gone Theres no reason to sell one person 200 fucking masks I got mine early and have two reusable half face masks with 4 sets of filters so Im set but I live in a state thats old and already quite sick in general Corporate overlords need to start limiting folks from buying out entire cases of sanitizer and such now before it gets worse|0 Hopefully people will take hygiene as seriously after the crisis as now|0 If its any consolation the consistency of fudge or some chocolates is nearly identical to C4 under one of those Xray machines Once gave a TSA agent a scare with a metal box full of white chocolate fudge He went all wide eyed when the machine freaked out and the first thing out of his mouth was Thats fudge right Please tell me thats fudge|0 Cant decide whats worse self service checkouts or manned checkouts Manned ones the worker touches all your food and has handled cash from loads of strangers at least with the selfservice checkouts youre only getting grubby hands which you can easily sanitisewash Ill probably stick with selfservice lol|1 No theyre developing it thats why they get sick so oftenPut a bunch of kids in overcrowded daycare with no understanding of basic hygiene and you got the perfect little Petri dish Parents get the added bonus of getting sick from their kids|0 Let his life and courage be an inspiration to us all|1 Good person to know in these trying times|1 You know the WHO isnt the bad guy hereThey have saved billions of lives in very difficult environment and hostile countries|1 Im older so Ive never seen the ketchups but yeah the tiny Tabascos are pretty cute|1 Yeah im just trying to be optimistic Who knows Maybe Mike pence is surprisingly competent and we get something out tomorrow I could see trump trying something in an attempt to halt the stock market before the weeks out We just had the biggest 1 day drop in history He only cares about the stock market so hes gotta do something right Analysts say that if dow is 25k come elections hes out|1 Yeah I mean the WHO is supposed to represent the whole world in health and clearly google youtube and facebook are already censoring all kinds of things so that includes the USA in the listWhy cant we just go back to the 80s when everything was great BTW your username is great|1 Tumeric with ginger is great for sore throat too Very soothing for the throat|1 Its probably an event theyre not proud ofI dont know just sayin|0 ahh i see well at least theres that|1 Totally true Officially dealths should only be listed as being caused by the virus if its confirmed but then they should also be releasing the general death count during all of this compaired to the average in each city this time last year Right And then can the WHO compel the CCP to release that data I know they have no form power but could still request I understand that folks with underlying diseases like cardiovascular issues would have even a pneumonia prob NCoV diagnosis be listed as a secondary to the heart issues Does anyone know for certain that this is the case|0 Time to start working now on the long term All information relating to outbreaks or health emergencies should automatically be taken out of a paywall How can I help |1 whats your take on online platforms suppressing open discussion on covid on reddit for example i have experienced attempt to censor a valid question i asked few hours ago the question was can mild moderate alcohol intake affect viral load and rate of infections at the end i had to argue with someone who was asking me to find other papers that specifically point ot covid19 as i have referenced common coronaviruses infectioncold articles they proceeded to claim that common cold is not a coronavirus who is moderating this important thread ALL DATA related to infection must be allowed to be posted on this platform so we find better ways of dealing with this menace|0 Regular flu can bring on a bacterial infection that progresses into pneumonia So can a rhinovirus This has happened for literally thousands of years|0 You must like downvotes|1 Fuck CNN Way to perpetually scare the public as usual Main stream media is the root of all our problems|0 Good Others need to also The government is corruptly trying to keep the numbers low They dont have tests In oklahoma they could run 50 tests a day guess who they used those tests for The damn Utah Jazz|0 Coronavirus has claimed 1016 lives in Italy Please be safe take precautionsI want you guys to read this article on Coronavirushttpsmediumcomtomaspueyocoronavirusacttodayorpeoplewilldief4d3d9cd99ca it will help you realize that the right to act is NOW This is an exponential threat Every day counts If you find this article helpful show some support and Clap Thanks|1 Not blocking quarantining Its also quarantining its own people who return from abroad and people of other nationalitiesSource currently quarantined in Shanghai|1 Im not going to defend the leveraged buyout industry here as there is definitely a lot of greed and shadiness involved depending on who is doing the buying but this article also misleading The buyer Bain for instance definitely does not want the company to be unable to pay their employees or go out of business If it does their investment goes to 0 Remember that Bain becomes the business owner They want the business to be successful to the end that it can eventually either go public or be bought by someone else If it fails they lose money|0 Autumn now though the weather is still relatively warm in Sydney mid 20s C mid 70s in F Im not sure how much impact warmer weather has in slowing down the virus warmer and tropical countries like Singapore Philippines Indonesia Brazil and plenty of places in the Middle East all have outbreaks I think the CDC said it was premature to assume that heat would have any substantial impact especially as its a novel virus with no natural immunity|1 Please send this to me too|1 Estonia Slovenia and the Czech Republic were also dictatorships not too long ago in fact South Korea has been a democracy for several years longer than these countries They are still functioning democracies The fact that SK was a dictatorship forty years ago means nothing in itselfAlso on the 2019 democracy index SK is number 23 ahead of the US and Japan|1 Lol i was with you for the first couple points what the hell lets torch the ship too|0 To be fair Ive never felt closer to death then when I had pneumonia so bad that walking 15 feet to go to the bathroom was a herculean task|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Just appealing to conspiracy theorists and the possibility there is an intelligence component to these briefings going forward If admin was trying to hide the pandemic response it would have classified briefings two weeks ago|0 Meanwhile in the rest of the worldhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSickleaveOthercountriesAt least 145 countries provide paid sick days for short or longterm illnesses with 127 providing a week or more annually 98 countries guarantee one month or more of paid sick days60|0 Its 150 a test not sure what insurance pays The whole nba should be tested someone had it they all in physical contact way to turn something to negative Since there in contact together they should be tested This is ignorant|0 People arent showing symptoms and spreading it to vulnerable people including young and old people with prexistant conditions Think of it as knowing your HIV status|0 Probably shouldnt have chosen the only two wars weve ever failed to win as your two examples|0 Time to re read gintama that manga always make me laugh whenever i read it|1 As an L4 manager in one of the biggest site I can tell you the senior leadership team does not care or has ever really cared about Tier 1 associates My site literally has some of the worst manager and associate attrition that stems from the poor working condition we have to ensure I wish I would not have started my career after college working for Amazon|0 That Is a sign that you REALLY need to get another doctoroffice for medical needs because if they cant even manage to tell you what you were tested for and the results of that it means they are COMPLETELY incompetent and should not be trusted with your medical care please get another doctor|0 Thank you for listening to me vent Stay safe and warm Best wishes to you|1 Well hit 1k within the hour probably|1 Its a democracy you cant say dont vote to people but yeah it will be strange|1 It clears very slowly Wouldnt you reach toxic levels doing that for many days in a row I think the acute loading dose is max 25g total Drug half life is around 12 months right|1 Im all for finding solutions to global environmental sustainability issues but in the mean time Im still gonna visit my grandma|1 The smart countries will start using one or more of favipiravir redemsivir or chloroquine now instead of waiting 26 months for clinical trial results|1 Yes I tried posting a discussion about how to approach the school district without looking like a doomsday prepper I want to ask what their plans are|1 Please dont dramatize just because it is connected to someone who is famousMany people will die in Ireland due to permanent trolley crisis there where people on corridors of AE are awaiting to get into the ward Some even died because of this mayhem yet talking heads are doing whatever they can to fix this Its total bollockshttpswwwindependentieirishnewshealthhospitalprobesdeathofapatientwhomayhavefallenofftrolleyincrowdedaande38849507htmlIve left Ireland after 10 years of living there one of main reasons were really bad experience with their medical service in respect to treatment of my child and extremely high cost of going privateI expect a real troubles and seriously big numbers in Ireland same as in Poland where I live now Mentioning someones tragedy because he is famous is unfair to him to the victim and all other anonymous victims and their families|0 Hes that idiot that was on TV purposely touching all the mics No he wasnt being careless that man was purposely endangering others If any of those people from the TV interview or the locker room die he should be charged with murder|0 As far as I know sticking it in the freezer is the last thing you want to be doing according to science news sites viruses similar to this one die off faster in warmer temperatures and though they didnt test this virus per se I dont think theres any evidence it would behave very differently|0 Hey leave Radiohead out of this|0 From all of the scientists that are studying this the results are not in yet Theyre could be a low level of immunity and there couldnt be|0 thank you |1 You literally areAnd its not at all a coincidence that one of those level 4 labs is in Wuhan where it a began OkThats stated as a fact and when you state as a fact that its not at all a coincidence you are literally spreading misinformation Do you not understand how language works If these concepts are too difficult for you to understand Ill make it easy for you Fob off and keep your mouth shut|0 Japan does not like these numbers|0 I saw the news It sure does I was supposed to take the plane from Ohare to MS this Monday but fortunately its been postponed till April|0 Im hoping that your dad is safe too I just wish all of this would go away I fell like life has become like the twilight zone|1 Best get a wriggle on death to all is imminent even those nurses are going to get it and not in the good way |0 Kinda surprised by all the down votes lol Ive met a few very nice and polite Chinese but theyre usually younger or moved here US when they were young Most others Ive encountered are pretty rude and have a Fuck you pay me attitude I get that its just the culture over there thoughAdmitting this says nothing about how heart breaking this story is I wish them all the best|1 Or if theyre already infected they cant get infected again for the time being|0 And you have no idea what people who work for small businesses feel like No way am I biting the bullet for some company they can go bankrupt before me and my family and die|0 Take a look at the executive orders near the end of the document With all of them in place it turns the existing for profit system into a government run one overnight|1 If saving just a few hundred dollars over an extended period of time makes me out of touch then you need to reevaluate your life cause you aint living right lol|0 This isnt a great example because Trump is a terrible at businessBusinesses and private health organizations have done a better job of responding than the government at this point|0 Italy will begin to test Remdesivir that represents an interesting possibility the molecule could be able to block the replication of the coronavirus giving an end of chain signal|1 Thanks for your advice I will be more cautious when I go to hospital|1 Oh come on The only way it could be even remotely disrespectful is if those peoples families were ever going to read here but they arent China will see to thatIts human nature to speculate Its also Redditor nature to be hyper focused on themselves Every time someone on the younger side dies it makes this a threat to them personally instead of just their parents|0 A year away is very very soon for a vaccine honestly|1 Yea thanks but not going to do that Youll be one of the worst ones hit with your mindset I dont watch much TV I prefer to do my own research As for my crazy bullshit its never going to matter to me what you think of it but well see how much it matters to you in about 10 days And good God do I hope Im wrong|0 Why is there no data for 010 for corona Have there been any recorded deaths of that age group yet|0 guess I have won the lottery when it comes to the target demographic of covid19|1 Because certain areas will have better outcomes Thats a fact of life|1 Yep The one I have for work around the house that requires it It inhales through the filters and exhales through a hole with a flap Presumably it would help protect me but if Im infected it wouldnt help anyone else|1 You stay safe as well Ive been relatively isolated for about 6 days with extreme measures when going outside for an hour every other day Im thinking Im solid now|1 Yep We are advised to get flu shots asap We do not want to get flu and coronaviris at the same time|0 I think some americans are coming to the realization that 911 is definitely our governments fault Whether it was them directly doing it themselves or causing the whole scenarioDont get me wrong tho Im sure 70 of the population is still dumb enough to think that we did no wrong and we were so innocent in it all|0 httpswwwftcomcontent38a81588650811eab3f3fe4680ea68b5 UKs chief scientific adviser defends herd immunity strategy for coronavirus Patrick Vallance says 40m Britons would have to contract coronavirus to prevent future outbreaksTheyve basically decided to help the virus spread kill at the very least 400K people if we go with the magical 1 CFR and not the much higher reality in other countries like Italy and Iran hoping that people develop herd immunity which they never did with any disease we need vaccination forTLDR They went full antivaxxer|1 And amusingly theyve provided plenty of evidence in support of your argument in their responses|1 Youre right there thats their biggest problem its fine having those views while everythings fine and dandy hence why theyre generally students yet to experience what actually makes the world tick or hippies that a supported by everyone else|1 My friend is like that but with Ebola hes a bit odd but I love the dude|1 Is the strain in Italy different than WuHan Wtf happened I know my area imported a bunch of cases from Italy so Im worried|0 While fresh air and sunlight are beneficial in some ways this specifically told people direct sunlight would cure them Thats not the same Australian sun is also more likely to give you cancer|0 Thank you very much Guy that tested me said 24 hours so we shall see They only did 1 swap on each of us and it was left nostrilSouthern NH|1 he if its everyones problem we will get more help from the west|1 sensible chuckle|1 Agreed|1 Imagine this Our country Slovenia donated all the masks weve got to Chinese when outbreak has been announced Right now we have 1 confirm case and no masks our government is so idiotic as has always been|0 Your words are more than enough Thank you|1 Deep lungs is just another way of saying ACE2 receptors which exist in the heart and kidneys as well It just needs entry into the bloodstream Probably inhaling it into the deep lungs will cause pneumonia faster than through the eyes or other orifice But given enough time and no treatment I think it would spread throughout all those areas causing severe symptoms|0 Shit doesnt feel real Its an interesting time to be alive|1 No they are not Provide a source|0 Yeah totally feel you on this one I tried warning both my father and brother about this upcoming crisis but because they are both hospital administrators and I just wear a tin foil hat they both laughed it off and said their doctors assured them this was no more dangerous than the common flu|0 here if you got a ambulance ride and they decide you could have taken the bus youll get a very threatening talk to never do it again but no bill to pay|0 From everything I have seen the only way to handle this is with a strong federal govt response Executive orders and such The recipe is ridiculously simple Free up the costs for testing and care so infected can come forward essentially start the seeds for national health care Order shut downs and quarantines of businesses that have had infected workers Not so much for the quarantine as it will dis incentivise companies to not force workers to come in sick Shut down mass gatherings like sporting events churches conventions etc Start virtual on line schooling Build isolation hospitals to deal only with the virus And especially for the Americans Dont politicise this I tend to like Trump for various reasons more than any of the democrats and the Trump camp is not going to like the limitations on civil rights and the democrats will attack him whatever he does but Americans really need to stop it with their ridiculous politicisation of every thing Probably these things will result in Trump losing an election but its the right thing to do|0 Sounds good This is how a nonauthoritarian government should react Incorporate the private industry|1 I am literally a Danish woman and the handshake legislation was always about alienating muslim men AND women not about adhering to some arbitrary idea of Danish culture that has little to do with realityThe legislation solved a problem that never existed by putting obstacles in front of a specific cultural group to the benefit of noone That is the the definition of petty|0 Dude do it This is exactly the kind of action that the world needs right now Good for you for looking into it you could save countless people because you stumbled onto a random internet comment|1 Ignorance is bliss aye|1 I sure fucking hope its the peak |1 He just made bank going long on chipotle He also had extraordinary losses going long on Valeant Hes not a short seller Youre thinking of firms like Citron Hes more activist investor than short seller|0 Judging by the name I am going to guess that you are Romanian And all I want to say is mulumim pentru tot ceea ce facei n acest moment toat populaia noastr are nevoie de voi Ne pare ru c doctorii din Romnia au o conotaie asa de rea|1 Arent most of its content free from beginning what did I miss|1 Theyll probably test everyone but are starting with those with the highest risk and those showing symptoms|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Now Trump is trying to say how seriously they are taking it Hes the worst|0 This is correct By the time you start noticing an uptick in pneumoniadeaths its a bit late Random doctors and nurses aint part of any conspiracies thousands of more pneumonia deaths would have been picked up on 1 or 2 maybe notGranted its still comforting that we arent in any massive epidemic in us yet Good job OP|1 something something we cant create panic|1 Ireland and the UK are not part of the European Ban|0 Wouldnt that be a bad example to set|1 This is just the entirety of europe in one post look at spain oh its fine then two weeks later theyre shuting down schools shops goverments branches you name it only if the people and the goverments payed more attention to this|1 We need to love And care for one another This is our best chance to pull through |1 A lot of manufacturing has moved from China to Malaysia the Philippines Thailand Vietnam etc Mainly because of economics but the fact their governments dont demand companies hand over technology for nothing as the price for doing business inside their borders has been very useful for them|1 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Look through ops history they and a group of a few other users are making a concentrated effort to post as much anti Govt rubbish as they can OP in particular has years of largely anti Tory pro labour posts for example trying to compare the Leave campaign to Nazis yes this is the kind of person we are talking aboutI am a leftie I dont think the Tories have handled this perfectly by any means but what these people are doing is a serious effort to control the narrative of what is meant to be an informative sub during a time of crisisThey all use pretend they are just being critical of the governments plan but then constantly post misleading articles and comments misinformation and spread as much fear as possible proving it is much more than criticism its a political effort|0 We wish a speedy recovery to all patients We will defeat this epidemic|0 The level of ignorance and disregard for others simply blows my mindHow is it possible to not be a cynical old bastard when you witness things like this|0 Thats blocked by the AV checker for some reason Hope its not a virus too|1 This is likely a test to see if extreme containment measures will work If its successful Id expect the rest of Hubei to follow|1 Haining Resident Nobody in or out unless you have a permit by the local government All surrounding villages are the sameEdit1 Haining is a Subcity of Jiaxing in Zhejiang ProvinceEdit2 Information that I am aware of Factories are to remain closed until the end of February I am not sure about malls Supermarkets are only open 125 All Starbucks closed until further notice starting tomorrow Fast Food Joints like McDonalds KFC are open Pizzahut is only pick up or delivery Other restaurants are open but not manyEdit3 Let me say that we just got our first confirmed case today Not in the main City of Haining but in the Subcity of Changan which is a 40minute drive from the city center Changan is next to Hangzhou I know a lot of negativity towards the Government here in China but I do give the Local Government props for taking necessary steps to prevent infections happening|0 Youre correct But sadly everyone on here is mask obsessed so youll never win|0 SARS and MERS are also Coronaviruses Coronavirus is like the term dogs there are a wide variety of dog breeds There are a wide variety of coronavirus I wouldnt get your news from uneducated IG posts|1 Start calling it the Coronavirus bar crawl Tell everyone that it will be a great way to end up puking for weeks instead of just the next day Recommend that they visit older relatives they dont like after the event Basically blanket the event with bad pressContact bars and suggest they close that night if they care about their regulars and their staff point out that losing half their staff and regulars for 24 weeks will cost them far more than what they lose being closed one day|0 When it comes to the US were hitting spring break throughout the month of March week depends on where you live Families leaving for a week and traveling all over the countryworld I look at this from a tourist townski mountain perspective and see it being pretty likely that someone could bring it along Pretty similar to the Chinese New Year|1 You are doing the greatest work |1 People cant afford to stay home in America You dont work you dont get paid Dont get paid youre homeless hungry and cant afford whatever medical bills if youre lucky enough to have a copay Reality of the situation|1 If youre an asymptomatic carrier of a virus specifically COVID19 I guess what determines how long you remain contagious Do you end up just shaking it off and having only antibodies or are you actually now potentially indefinite host for the virus circulating in your bloodstream etc|0 The solution needs to be that china becomes a democratic nation They would of never of been able to cover it up like they did now with their total survallience systems in place The world could of been much better prepared with REAL data not the garbage the Chinese have been telling us|1 Lysol has been included on the CDC list of products with EPAapproved emerging viral pathogens claims which are expected to be effective against SARSCoV2 based on data for harder to kill viruseshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcommunityhomecleaningdisinfectionhtml|0 I am an RN of 20 years and I dont know the specifics regarding there being a charge in the masks I do know that getting a mask wet compromises the integrity of the mask Here is some info from 3Mhttpswww3mcom3MenUSworkerhealthsafetyusallstoriesfullstorydetailstoryid8855304f01cb4af2893783096cdb4113httpmultimedia3mcommwsmedia409903Orespiratoryprotectionagainstbiohazardspdf|1 He could be a humanitarian Or he could want US stocks to get back up for the sake of the global economy It doesnt matter Were fucking this up and need the help|1 She knows its JUST a candle right Like its a very minor thing|1 I agree thats why Im telling you not to waste your time Hes going to keep thinking theyre ineffective no matter what you sayDo you think Im calling you the moron|0 Right Im in NYC so this hits close to home It is either two things1 New York DeBlasio in particular wants to make sure theres no discrimination should these people be Asian Americans Recently theres been a lot of talk regarding the negative reaction Chinatown and Chinese business owners are facing along with Cab and Uber Drivers cherry pickingOR2 Event 201 is definitely in play and the news and information we are receiving is insightful enough to keep up aware but vague enough not to incite panic which would damage our economy with the eventuality being that after enough soft launched information dished out to people they will be able to accept the truth that its everywhere in NYC|1 As long as at least one of them works without substantial issues I dont care who manufactures it Hell massproduce the grunts of a caveman as long as it means its effective in battling this virus lmao|0 If it were me Id base my decision on several factors How much do you trust Chinas narrative on this virus Do you love your job Can you get another job easily enough Is staying in Australia a viable option long term Ultimately Id probably not be wanting to fly into an active contagion zone but if this area is safe maybe Its tough Where do you want to live and die|1 True our parents voted for decades for the morons destroying the public health care system They voted for understaffed hospitals with no supplies and too little staff to withstand a crisis like this They voted to cut funding year after year I would love to get tested and do my part to keep everyone safe But I cant and employers keep telling us its just the flue yes still This isnt just our fault|1 Lol civics and morals have been thrown out with the bath water in the US Watch as we eat ourselves alive|1 lol|1 Hello Im an early childhood teacher in New Zealand here is a website I use to get ideas on activities I can do with the kids I hope this helps httpswwweducationgovtnzearlychildhoodteachingandlearninglearningtoolsandresourcesplayideas|1 Not sure if youve been through the automated gates lately There is face matching that makes sure you match your passport and you have a valid entitlement to enter eg citizen visa You get a little ticket and hand the ticket to the exit control agents who look at it with their eyes and visually inspect your passport no electronics At no point does the system ask for your origin nowadays Its just not processed They know the flight you can from but not your originating destination|0 Thanks for what you do Really appreciate this sub|1 Look it doesnt matter how great or top notch health care is in a country if people cant access it without breaking themselves The USs health insurance system is designed to keep the pesky poor people out And right now the people in the retail and food service industries who interact with hundreds and thousands of people a day are likely to be forced to go into work sick no matter what the email from the CEO says because they dont have insurance dont have paid sick leave and need to pay rentmortgage and purchase food to live|0 That sub is a mixture of biased propaganda half truths genuine critiques and shitposting There was nothing antiwhite there the only thing related to race I saw was calling out racism against Asians|0 Good points but china is state capitalist not communist anymore|1 Im for hope and positivity But I can see that vaccines take time From the article itself Its unclear what conclusions we should draw from either of these approaches Firstly its important to keep in mind that these statistics are unlikely to be representative of future vaccines because the lowhanging fruit is likely already gone early vaccines did not have to go through the modern clinical trial system and because modern technology and investment could speed up RD On the other hand modern vaccine development may be sped up by significant advances in technology Lastly the vaccines that take the longest are the least likely to have already been developed simply because they stretch out over more time which introduces a natural bias toward dealing with harder vaccines today above and beyond the low hanging fruit factorWhich leaves us informed but with no conclusion and with a bias towards a manyyearswait for a vaccineOTOH the obvious fact is that the places with those same labs teams are also working on medicines and treatments and that should be very effective much soonerSo while a proper vaccine might be years away a quicker and more effective medicine might be much closer Things like oseltamivir remdesivir and retroviral drugs My hopes are on people finding a combination or medicine that works fast and sends people back home so that the hospitals are not overwhelmed Maybe something that can be prescribed to selfquarantined people too|1 Its really unbelievable I was in a plane recently and the lady in the seat in front of me was coughing around wildly without even covering her mouth Who does that on a plane under the current circumstances I dont trust people for shit|0 Happy cake day|1 Hope you stocked up last week I have over three months of time saved up at work and stocked the pantry a week or so ago I dont see the need to buy a bunch of stuff we dont use on the regular so I just did a normal pantry stock plus maybe 50|1 its been a pandemic for months now who just didnt do shit about it|1 Dang some of these otherwise questionable mega corporations are really stepping up and doing good More than our own government is doing Props to them|1 My friend asked this yesterday and my gut reply was well when you grow up with raw sewage everywhere I think diarrhea alone kills a few hundred thousand children in India annuallyEdit yeah Untreated sewage is the leading polluter of water sources in India causing a host of diseases including diarrhea which kills 350000 Indian children annually2httpsssirorgarticlesentryfixingindiassewageproblem|0 Hes a fanboy To him athletes are the pinnacle of manhood He doesnt know any professional athletes doesnt work with them or socialize them he just deifies them forreasons But in his supreme ignorance hes fine declaring that all of them are talented smart and apparently tall|1 He is wrong Just read an interview of a doctor in Heinsberg the district with most cases in Germany One of the death there was an old man who was tested positive but had no pneumonia and without heavy symptoms He then had a heart attack and is now counted as a coronavirus death even though it is very unlikely that his heart attack was related to his infection|0 2 experts in VietNam have created the first testkit that gives result in only 70min instead of 9 hours like usual The testkit is called RTLAMPIf i remember correctly they have successed to extract the virus to do experience on it which give the wonderful result todayEdit The experts are waiting for the confirmation from Vietnamese government to produce in mass It wont be longEdit The accuracy rate has not been announced but I really think this gonna work well The testkit is a lil bit more complicated than other test in the world so its harder to produce in massEdit Sry I mislead a bit in the title The test kit around the world takes between 4 to 9 hours depend on the country not every testkit take 9 hours|1 Its heading in that direction Being prepared is a great idea Dont want to be at the grocery stores when cases pop up in your local community and everyone bum rushes the stores|1 Thank you for your story uthelovelyboners|1 The United States stock market is crashing It will likely affect the economy in the United States for years to come People may lose jobs elderly people will lose retirement money Everyone will fall on hard financial times|0 Yes the lack of info on what determined whether a patient got antivirals or not is the biggest thing that concerns me I wish theyd said something about that Not enough to draw a firm conclusion but still an improvement over the total hearsay evidence we had before|1 If you divide the amount of deaths by the amount of recovered patients the death rate is nearly exactly 10 taking amount of deaths vs total ongoing infections is useless because you can assume recovered and dead patients go infected in a similar timeframe so yes its more looking like 10 and the lower is purposefully misleading to avoid mass panic|0 I think we are screwed and to be honest I wish I wasnt even in this country right nowThey are not taking it seriously they know they have screwed up the Treasury already with stupid Brexit and they only care about hiding stuff that could cause loss of profits if known Even the logic behind hiding the exact location of the cases is weird Northumbria care trust cover all of Northumberland and half Cumbria how are we supposed to stay far from infected people if the area taken into account is thousands of square miles|1 There are no hand sanitizer disinfecting wipessprays Isopropyl alcohol masks immune boosting products to be found at stores within about 40 mile at least radius of Seattle Toilet paper still findable but scarce Bizarrely so is bottled waterPeople either are too freaked out to leave their living space OR seemingly blissfully unaware of what 3 feet of social distance is Schools closed but people inviting kids over to their homes or having sports practices and thus sort of defeating the whole purpose|0 I imagine what will happen is that the majority of the US are going to be in the same boat so when bills stop getting paid and companies stop earning money something will have to be done as there is no way they can make even 20 of the population homeless and without access to basic necessities|0 It never ceases to amaze me how much incompetent management exists in the world The best is when they decide to start spewing wisdom to their employees|1 It has the potential to be worse here BECAUSE of our forprofit medical systemAt least in countries with an actual healthcare system they can coordinate their response and distribute equipment and personnel with an eye to saving the most livesHERE with our pieceofshit profiteering system all that is done with an eye to making the most money rather than actually saving lives which for example is why we have a medical system with no emergency reserves of any supplies because its cheaper and more profitable to order things at the last minute exactly as they are used up The profit motive in our medical system already kills tens of thousands in this country every year but this year with this pandemic it will kill hundreds of thousands or possibly millions|0 The whole country is being postponed at this point As for all for of the late night talk shows daytime talk shows might as well scrap those also SNL needs to be shut down as well that place is right in the thick of things|1 Haha|1 just used Expressvpn worked fine ill be at home protecting myself from the spread of coronavirusEdit wait I cant read Italian so I might only have the normal trial versionEdit a pull request was made just 4 days ago that adds support for pornhub premium to youtubedl nice timingEdit pip3 install upgrade user githttpsgithubcomtwaddingtonyoutubedlphpremium|1 Wait Dont we want more humidity|0 Correct me if Im wrong but wouldnt you expect any mutation that would increase infectivityrate of transmission to have a greater chance to become a big new strain Are you saying that infectivity is normally inversely correlated to deadliness|1 No bro shut up|0 Again same thing happened in Wuhan and people were saying things like this were fake coming from unidentified source It is not just flu|1 Thank you so much for this detailed response|1 People have been dismissing the study that just came out of China that said 1 degree C had a small effect 003 on R0 and relative humidity had a slightly smaller effectWell shit NYC will get up at least 15 degrees in June and will be muggy as hell Thats going to be an R0 decrease of at least 5 due to temperature alone Ill take thatPeople panic about R0 being logarithmic when cases are going up but forget that math part when its going down|0 When you throw multiple piles of shit on the wall I too am not surprised a few stick Funny though you people never talk about the predictions that miss Yikes|0 People like these are the problem in this world Even in this thread are examples of assholes thinking theyre funny or that it is funny to harass and bully other people They are ignorant and smallminded little people Sorry you had to experience that|0 Im in Sask as well Made the decision last night to pull the kids from school and Im also not going to work this week leading up to my surgery Caught a bit of shit for the decision until this morning when they announced schools would be closing|0 Ok will do thanks|1 You have a source on them not testing after death |1 I clean for plenty of people who arent rich They just manage their money properly|0 because they want to point fingers to try and make themselves feel better and try to feel like canada has done anything useful so far Theres copious amounts of cases in canada we just have terrible testing and guaranteed theyre not just from travel either like you said it makes 0 difference where theyre from bc its here in raging numbers anyway x this country is turning into the biggest joke in regards to this well almost 2nd place to donnie|1 Broken hip does that to old people I lost a grand mother to that to They can survive anything except a broken hip|0 donated by patients Lol|1 Hes right When it comes to stocks Dont panic buy any stocks right now That shit is going to crash |0 Life doesnt only reward the wise and punish the wicked Their horrible decisions may have triggered a faster response|0 Juventus centreback Daniele Rugani also tests positive|1 have 1 set of replacements for each respairator apparently respairator cartridges have a 3 month lifespan in dusty environments i hope its enough|1 Probably another 10 weeks in all honestyOr go out the house take your chances spread it around a bit and be lucky when your time comes Fuck everyone elseWho gives a fuck if the schools are closed So are the shops the public transport the everything except medical and some food distributors Wont be long nowThats the reality faced by other countries Fuck the States just shut their shops and Disney Fucking World They dont shut that thing for shit But when you declare the first ever national emergency for a health crisis of the largest economy in the world and turn it all off well its with good reasonWuhan had relatively low mortality over all because within a week they had built a few hospitals and flown in 40k doctors while locking down whole cities comprising of more people than in the UK Wuhan is still locked down 50 days later They threw everything they had at it and took no shortcuts and got it some what under control justAnd yet here we are mere days away from an impending disaster of biblical proportions and youre worried about the schools for 2 weeks Yes love worry about the schools|0 follow public safety measureslike not gathering in large crowds |1 Dont worry the trickle down testing will get to us eventually s|1 Locally a good chunk of the hospital volunteers are seniors A chilling thought|1 let everyone get infectedThis is literally the opposite of herd immunity Herd immunity is when everyone who can get vaccinated does so that they dont infect those who are too immunocompromised to build an immunity Letting everyone get infected is not the same as widespread vaccination|0 New Zealand let our only confirmed case come right into the country from Iran without any screening He was feeling symptoms before boarding and was clearly ill upon arrival He took himself into hospital days after entering the country GOD knows how many others are out there we dont know about I wouldnt be so upset about it if the government was being honest about it all They say theyre screening and taking every measure possible to keep the virus from entering the country and yet they missed this seemingly obvious risk Its hard to take anything they say at face value|1 Nobody called him racist for stopping travel to China you can burn that strawman all you want but nobody was saying that|0 I saw the news too An entire hospital in ten days Maybe thats why they overcome the horrific issue|0 100 agree thanks for your postAnd if youre not sick enough to be hospitalized but you went to the hospital anyway then you probably just got the virus even if you didnt have it before you went|1 They keep trying to say theres low risk of exposure to the community but they also constantly refuse even ASSESS the risk If theyre not even trying to test someone that very much has a strong chance of having the virus then they have no business being in positions of leadership for this thing|0 Every time I think of the hospital workers I can shed a tear you guys and gals are real heroesPeople we need to be sending our loving and positive thoughts their way whenever we can manage love you all|1 Lol yeah Ill try to remember that I was pretty much saying the same thing to someone else today actually|1 That says a Beijing lab scientist not the Wuhan lab But it wouldnt surprise anyone if that happened in Wuhan too would it The Chinese are known for greed corruption and poor quality control Sorry to say it but there it is|0 Generally that happens in situations like Americans venturing into Iran perhaps Syria during the war|0 As of yet no No more worrying than for the population as a wholeSince a vast majority of the confirmed cases can still be tracked to trips made to northern Italy its rather the middle and upper class who are the most affected right now due to them being the ones who can afford travelling to ski in the alpsOf course we have uncontrolled community spread though This will not settle anytime soon and it will reach the more segregated areas with full force as well maybe thats already happened I dont know due to our rather strict laws when it comes to patient confidentiality we dont get too much information where the ones infected live|0 Nope false Loads of people get sick get themselves checked out are even in critical condition like the ICU and do not get approved to have a coronavirus check because they dont have travel history to infected areas This is until like a day or so ago when the CDC changed the recommendations to not only check people with a travel history to infected areas but also those in critical conditions without travel history so today or tomorrow I suspect the cases will start rolling in Its government negligence not a virus showing low symptoms Symptoms dont change unless the virus mutated before arrival in the US which is unlikely Theyve simply done too little testing but are scaling up now|0 They didnt even test me just looked at my breathing and gave me more meds My doctor told me if Im not 25 or 30 better by Saturday to call him but wont tell me why xD|1 I suspect this is for the general public who may make panic decisions Right now on rcoronavirus you can see escalating anxiety It seems to me that if the doctor switches pt sucessfully from lisinopril to amlodipine thats the best scenarioEdit I think these decisions get trickier when the pt is on lisinopril for diabetes or CHF Weighing all those factors in the face of potential multisystem organ failure and post recovery myocarditis is nearly impossible|0 So dems win florida in November is what Im seeing|1 It is demonic is the best way to explain it|1 Because WHO just went to China for the first time since it started and are now seeing things first hand and pushing them to change their definition of confirmed cases|1 It would be nice to know from the WHO the stats on those effectively and currently sick and those who have been discharged on a daily basis against those infected on a daily basis|0 I agree I suspect part of it has to do with Japan needing help because they may get a TON of patients off that ship that need ICU If they can get that burden relieved they can handle their own citizens contracting it with better care|1 doesnt that just make you run out of DNA when you get full infection and cant evolve enough symptoms to kill everybody before WHO makes a curetbf I dont actually know if you can hold more than 99 DNA so maybe its possible|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im NOT a conspiracy person Im rational logical and dont believe in Bigfoot 911 was done by Bin Laden and hes dead hitlers dead and Elvis Id dead I appreciate that I personally loathe most conspiracy theories myself but something seems really odd here PNWer too so this is really interesting to hear|0 Given that over 68000 have fully recovered so far Id say us normal people have a decent chance|1 I think they closed their borders a while ago and theres a minimum 5 year jail sentence for breaking quarantine But other than that I would guess suppression of the numbers just like here|1 Some motherfucker sneezed right next to me at homedepot today and didnt even cover his mouth I guess Im fucked|0 Yeah that was definitely part of it I think it was a mix of people who were afraid and so had convinced themselves that it wouldnt come to their country and a handful of actual white nationalists who were salivating over the idea of a disease that selectively killed nonwhite people|1 I live in Vegas I work in Caesars No word yet but Im sure theyll announce it by tomorrow Within days everyone I know including me will be jobless|1 Wow just confirmed with aunt who works there Thats insane|1 Lets be clear he said with more testing it may go down to 10x It is currently at 30x|1 Guarantee 1 will be dead from this 10 by the end of FebruaryTheyre reporting that theyre okay way too soon|0 So the additional tests said by Trump are actually the donations from Jack MaI searched in the source httpsthehillcomhomenewsadministration487506trumppledgestooverhaulcoronavirustestingplaguedbydelayshttpsthehillcomhomenewsadministration487506trumppledgestooverhaulcoronavirustestingplaguedbydelays and cannot find any mention of Jack MaIt seems that Trump takes the credit of Jack Ma as his own|1 God we have someone supposed to comeback from a cruise on Tuesday I hope he stays home for a while|1 This shit is scary as fuck for anyone who lives alone Could be slightly Ill then become critical in your sleep |0 People still play this |1 Yep Im surprised the media isnt all over this I appreciate not testing everyone who has a slight cough but they are so rigid with the criteria that it kind of feels intentional imo|1 Funny how it changes when its your life at risk|1 up Theyre fucking US so bad ftfy|0 My vote is for nervous diarrhea Weve all been there|0 I hope youre right After the top scientist saying that the government wanted herd immunity I lost all faith in the system|1 You underestimate who entrenched special interests are in the government Pharma just successfully blocked a provision in the bill for coronavirus funding that would ensure any vaccine developed with public funding would have to be affordable not even free or income based|1 Mate do you have a PhD in infectious diseases Or are you just one of us No offence|0 Good sue Mother fuckers Hope these corporate assholes choke on a big fat one|0 Having been in the military this scares me|0 I was there one day after the guy with the positive test and became symptomatic a few days later I cant get tested but I think there will be a lot more cases out of the conference center|1 Well Ask any of your friends if they would be more worried about going to South Korea or Japan right now If theyve been watching the news theyd probably say South Korea And likewise does it seem scarier to you to go to Japan or Thailand or Indonesia Indonesia has ZERO cases |1 Depends on the stage of the infection With the longer it being present in the body increasing the duration of the treatment and lengthening recovery time From all thats been said about COVID19 if healthy the degree of illness may only be slight If there are underlying health issues it can be quite serious|0 As a Canadian I really hope the USA starts providing this data Due to the early attitude and very delayed inappropriate response from both our governments Im certain my city is fucked but I would like to know how soonThe Canadian media silence is really disturbing to me Im sure we are right behind you on the scandal headlines and surge in cases|0 Does anyone know how this works if youre a small business owner with only 1 employee Do we get help under this as well or only the employee|1 This is really beautiful|1 People like yourself that have this weird belief that Governments cant or dont act benevolently are just not even worth engaging with Im afraid Nothing I suggest is ever going to get through the huge wall of paranoia youve surrounded yourself with|0 OK doomer|1 murica is like 3000 i heard xD|1 People claiming that it only affects the aged are ignorant Young people are getting it too and at least two doctors appear to have died from it in ChinaTo get diagnosed with COVID19 you have to develop breathing problems like pneumonia It appears that they wont test you for COVID19 unless you have those severe breathing symptomsIt seems worrying that young people in Washington are developing the breathing problems that result in them being tested for COVID199 Coronavirus Deaths Now Reported In Washington StateAmong seven new cases that were announced in King County on Tuesday are a woman in her 40s who worked at Life Care Center of Kirkland Wash the longterm care facility that is considered to be the site of an outbreak She is recovering at homeAnd in a worrying sign of new community transmission of the virus two men in their 20s are now hospitalized at the Swedish Issaquah medical center east of Seattle after contracting COVID19 through an unknown exposure the county health department saysRead morehttpswwwnprorgsectionshealthshots202003038116901639coronavirusdeathsnowreportedinwashingtonstateAt least two of the Chinese Doctors treating COVID19 patients have now died from the same virusChinese doctor who worked with late whistleblower dead from coronavirusA colleague of the Chinese whistleblower doctor who died of the coronavirus in the epicenter city of Wuhan has also succumbed to the illness according to a reporthttpsnypostcom20200303chinesedoctorwhoworkedwithlatewhistleblowerdeadfromcoronavirus|0 Oh no not our ruling class Heaven forbid they are exposed to what we are due to their poor decisions|0 Thanks|1 Gastro does mean that as well |1 Permanent results of bad shit that happens to yaFrequent headaches after a brain injury for example|0 India and Germany also banned export of some drugPPE productsGermany rebuked as it was against the spirit of the EU|0 Just watching R naught and CFR are what they are There are so many variables in play right now that is all you can really do I do believe you can say that it spreads very easily from human to human at least as easily as influenza Individuals infected are more infectious at certain stages probably associated with viral load as with most diseases with the highly infectious period starting a day or so prior to acute manifestation and symptomsSpeculating a certain percentage of individuals may have subclinical disease and could act as super spreaders during a high viral loadsubclinical disease period and asymptomaticsubclinical cases in children could cause their age group to function as a reservoir That is about all you can say with assurance Case Fatality rates appear to be variable and dependent upon age levels of care available to acute cases with Children being conspicuously absent see Chinese CDC descriptive Epi analysis here httpsgithubcomcmriversncovblobmasterCOVID19pdfutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf and not being reported in the data Just watching and waiting|1 Facts Its almost like weve been told were going to be in the world trade centre on sept 11th We know it going to happen and we will probably be ok But we cant be certain But its not just wholl be there our friends and family will be too but we cant see them because we might put them at riskYoure speaking out of your arse|1 Congrats to you and your new little one Stay healthy|1 The arguably more accurate stormtroopers at Verdun operated in unison with toxic gases like chlorine and tear gas this centurys stormtroopers seem a little more helpful|1 I only spend about 75 and was able to get enough food for over 2 months A grand for a month seems way expensive|1 What if this just a huge or gimmick to get us to buy more stuff and stay at home Like Y2k Or some other reason that we may never know Runnin scared Valid question|1 Most these numbers do not include state numbers A number of states in the US have tested more cases than the CDC is the states actually more labs than the CDC State have the state run labs and universities that are state fundedThe CDC should be testing Vets and our people abroad ASAP|1 No theyll test you if you have a cough sore throat and feverFuck you just cant stop being wrong today eh|0 IMO because Americans have an optimism bias and a bias to personal responsibilityempowerment Theres already this building narrative that all you need to do to prevent coronavirus is wash your hands and an underlying tone that people who do catch coronavirus simply werent careful enough|1 Very nice site Bookmarked|1 Yeah I think youre totally right on this The USs terrible response to Covid will directly impact usThese are the cases so far caught BC Case 20 This person is a woman in her 50swho travels frequently from Seattle to the Metro Vancouver area She is staying with family in the Fraser Health region the government saysAlberta Case 2 The second case also presumptive is an Edmontonarea man in his 40s who had travelled on business to Michigan Illinois and Ohio He returned to Alberta on Feb 28 and is currently isolated at his homeOntario Case 26 A man in his 40s who had been to Las Vegas went to Toronto Western Hospital in Toronto on Feb 28 Hes at home in isolation|0 A good hint about how to find what is close to the truth is to observe what type of comments attract the shills and their attacks|1 Just wanted to point out that bouncing leg restlessness and shakiness are all side effects of albuterol one of the most common asthma medicines so if you were taking the albuterol that may have been the source of that weird symptom|0 Theres no way he didnt infect tons of people on the ship|0 I thought we had the best health care in the world sMaybe just maybe it does make sense to look at how other countries handle healthcare|1 This is by far the dumbest argument of the day Youre literally saying because someone did something good that they are absolved of all other wrongdoings I honestly have no clue what youre even trying to get at Those same people are also responsible for rampant corruption the deaths of countless people more to come but hey they came out with some cool shit so whatever Seriously WTF Now Im not saying all of group insert group here is bad but theres definitely some irony in the fact that the group doing nothing is also the most at risk in this case the old|0 Im totally willing to push back rent collection on my units if the government stops mortgage collection for the same period of time I cant afford to eat the loss of rent by myself if my mortgage is still due and my insurance company wont cover my loss of income either since the tenants are still in the property|0 If they dont supply nurses with proper ppe I would fear walking off the job in mass numbers I personally would It will be interesting to see how this all plays out|1 Honestly should be arrested and made example of Fuck this fuck and fuck everyone posting funny memes about a crisis people are dying in|0 Youre right The virus isnt going to magically disappear in 8 weeks I think its partly a matter of just knowing that people will lose their shit if they announce 6 months or more of quarantines all at once But the 8 weeks will also give us some time to make enough masks tests testing centers and all that stuff so that we can handle it better|0 No yeah I totally agree I mean not to sound prejudiced or anything but the moment I heard there was a new virus in China I just figured the clock was ticking down the time before it made its way to the west coast here just the volume of tourists and travellers we get here from that part of the world Im in Victoria so were pretty much in the same locationAlso I should have stated in my original Comment that we dont get real Canadian winters which is a blessing to me to slow down the spread of anything here which is why I hope that people voluntarily seek treatment right away|1 But you guys just have to have your paid holidays right Youll end up being your own worst enemy if this gets badx200BMaybe stay home for your holidays Thats an idea|0 So apparently the virus may be able to affect the central nervous systems control over normal breathing by crossing the blood brain barrier after intranasal exposure Link below httpswwwredditcomrCovid2019commentsfclf3wnewstudyshowingthatwhenenteringthebodyutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare|0 This has to be outdated at this point Feels like yesterdays numbers|1 2009 swine flu That wasnt a pandemic That was the virus that should never have even been proclaimed a pandemic It was less severe than seasonal flu If we got another situation like that Id say ah we are all fine which we were at that time Not even older people were really much at risk from that one The only time people are gonna realize things are as bad as a Spanish flu potentially is when it gets here Until then people are gonna think its not unusual|0 Am I the only one worrying about droplet transmission between the people on different floors|0 Look at the look on all their faces What matters is keeping people safe However these people are in a state that lives and dies by tourism and convention business Corporate offices are in Florida for a lot of businessesidkwhythey usually have their management fly in for meetings every 6 mos to once a year That wont be happening right now Once those corporations realize the savings doubt those meetings will start back up Those were steady bookingsLas Vegas must be freaking out San Diego already is feeling it This is a life changer for everyone Im just thinking about the more ruthless peopletheyve already realized the ramifications This is going to hit a lot of restaurants hotels meeting centers caterers barsthe gig economy intertwines with these businessesWere going to have to look out for each other and watch our backs for ourselves and our own loved ones What a balancing act that will be Ex if you have a code card that allows you to compvoid product and you work with someone who you dont trust completely now is not the time to start lending out something that could affect your job status |1 Yeah I hope our parties and rikstag can be grown ups now and work together Even V and SD|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Seriously you dont need to be a health official to know that its been fucked for a while|0 Only 20 of infected need hospitalization|0 Cruise cabins no longer share washrooms with each other All passengers are being confined to their cabins There are no shared washrooms for passengers to worry about Crew are taking other measures that are not being published at this time|0 Dude Im Chinese and I too know that we have a shit government that doesnt care shit about its citizens|0 I honest expect that at some point in the pandemic the US will have more cases than China China will overtake the US again because it has more people so of course it will but the spread in the US will be massive As much as people want to bash China and claim its numbers are fake and Ill be the first to say it massively bungled the start of this their response and lockdown afterwards has been extraordinary and probably no other country aside from North Korea will be able to limit spread like that If they were faking their numbers like some people claim they would be at several hundred thousand cases at minimum and it would be endemic in every major Chinese city If China was faking their numbers they would be building dozens of those makeshift quarantine hospitals in each major city right now The most logical conclusion is that they are probably reporting the numbers that their testing gives them There may be plenty of people in lockdown who arent being tested its not needed if they are already quarantined and have only minor symptoms but those people wont be heavy spreaders if they cant leave the houseThe US is a different story states are mostly reporting it as best they can but cant get any tests from the CDC There are most likely thousands of infected people in the US right now and there is no sign that there will be enough tests for them We cant even get enough tests for the people on one boatThe CDC doesnt post updates over the weekend in fact it might not even post the weekend numbers until Tuesday afternoon if they dont bother to collect numbers over the weekend thats how bad their undercount is|0 Can he answer the God when he becomes responsible of making many people sick and die probablyMuslim religious leaders really should come forward and advice people to pray at home On Friday afternoons all Muslims are gathering in mosques It will cause a disaster for Muslim countries that will allow this mistake|0 The point is that you can find scary side effects if you look at literally every medication Determining the safety of a drug is not a matter of simply looking at a list of potential side effects|0 Ah no people will buy up all the available items at the artificially low price to sell as the market price is actually much higher Its basic economicsFor example how many times have the top toy for Christmas been bought out only to be listed on Ebay for 10 times retail price How about the after market prices for tickets to the Super Bowl|1 Right on I have read somewhere that the CDC considers up to 40 assenteism of medical staff during a pandemic Meaning some people wont go to work if they can afford to just stay home away from danger This appears nowhere in your calculations Sorry I cannot find the CDC source right now|0 But what if its not overblown And Information endanger public safety|1 The virus is going to show up at the Florida border take one look and be like nah fuck that|0 No worries I hope you dont have it and start feeling well|1 No Im pretty sure it was just a bad system Honestly I dont give a flying fuck about your bipartisan bullshit Especially when our current president is a republican that just wants to improve on where Obamacare failed while also keeping some of its better aspects So both sides are working toward a better system for all I care|1 Think where Italy was a week ago So crazy how fast it spread|0 Yes I approved|1 Good idea I still have anxieties about the chicken sandwich I snagged on the way out of WalMart last week while this was supposedly just a flu|0 I like to call it doom optimism|1 please come back now please please please|1 Can we delete post like this They do no good helping the situation or this community Maybe start a Corona Virus Liberal channel and post all this stuff there|1 I think with the latest news from the media people are going to become more accepting of face masks and gloves And I had a job once that required a respirator and I can tell you right now that you are going to learn to hate it Wear it but hate it At least I did|0 Thanks thinking of getting a labor lawyer with all this uncertainty in the economy right now unemployment insurance may be make or break for us|0 In these times you need to operate with this as your highest expectations of people No one wants to admit they are sick These are the kinds of people that break out of quarantine and infect dozens of others|0 If they really go ahead with that I really hope those dogshit politicians who took the decision die first Fuck you|0 Seems to me were very closely comparable The things that are happening in a lot of the US today bans on gatherings closing bar and restaurants etc Italy took those measures on March 4 when its death toll crossed 100 The death toll in the US today is 68 and itll probably be right around 100 in a couple days when most of those measures actually take effect|0 Biden is risky for sure but saying that Trump will outright win isnt based in anything but political punditry|1 Well S Korea was very effective as well mainly through testing But I agree that the Chinese central government was very aggressive and aside from the delay ostensibly caused by the provincial government I dont know what else they could have done They shared data with the WHO they went to extreme lengths to contain the outbreakwho can find fault with that China has some issues yet with collecting and publishing reliable statistical data but people are quick to assign political causes for this when the issue is also one of capacity experience I actually think Chinas aggressive response has provided a sort of model for other countries to follow or at least made it easier for Western countries to take more aggressive measures because our publics have been watching how China has been dealing with it for weeks|1 Italy has many politicians infected or in quarantine at this point including two governors Its because theyve had more exposure to crisis response teams and the likelihood of infections goes up Celebrities are probably marginally more likely than the general population to be infected depending on how active they are in public Its a matter of time but its not unusual that none have been infected yet that we know of|0 What indications that it is an effective prophylactic There are 0 trials as far as Im aware If effective antiviral doses are so high bordering on toxicity and the effect is by changing cell pH and local enzyme inhibition there may not be a reasonable prophylactic dose|1 its the brain thats the problem Diabetes will only kill HIM|0 This here is why this sub is such a trainwreck Deliberately muddying the waters with nonsense|0 I work department store retail in Fort Worth I quickly realized the ONLY people shopping yesterday are science denying trump supporters They ALL had something to say about it Literally had people surprised because its like a graveyard in here|1 So just like Tamiflu|1 I know one of the Disney parks if offering free rescheduling to make up for the missed dates but there still is a cancellation fee|1 Please do not postcomment links to pages containing deliberate misinformation rCOVID19 has scientifically accurate informationI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Nope not America youre witnessing the Fall of Europecheck out the cases per million on the worldmeterUS at 17 Switzerland at 316 Spain at 239Italy at 462 Norway at 261 Denmark at 165and the fall of the EU and Schengens free movement across all borders|1 Its clearly talking about New York State|1 So are infants and toddlers safe from this being fatal|0 lmao Scroll down the thread and youll find I cited a sourceTrump knows fuck all about health care or how to improve itThis claim is clearly tied to your emotional opinion of him Which is meaningless Besides I never stated whether I think his plan is good or bad just that the Republicans also have politicians that believe in some form of a healthcare planTrump likes golf his daughters fake boobs junk food periodlmao Thats funny because the republicans were saying half the same shit about Obama And then you wonder why I just assume youre too emotionally driven to have a valid opinion|1 When the earth starts to settle God throws a stone And believe me hes winding up|1 F em Im sure general people dont know that|1 CCP rampant on that sub Like really rampant|1 Maybe you should rent the movie Contagion and leave it on the tv blaring for them to watch That movie scared the fuck outta me when it came out|0 One week hoping to use 3 hours at a time Not much but worth it and a lot more than many get for which I am grateful|1 So when you get insurance you arent paying for free treatment in the event you get ill youre paying for reduced paymentsa payment cap Thats an insane system|0 FWIW in China they dont use these tests either but they say its an accuracy issue Honestly a well trained ape could spot this shit on a CT scan Its really distinct looking|0 No one has implied that Older people are at a higher risk That much is obvious|0 It can be like the same as the flu but bacteria is the most common causeThats why they count covid19 deaths seasonal flu and pneumonia separately|0 Why do you say that In China they worship their dead|0 I agree that your gf had the right to travel and absolutely should be homeIts not her fault that the government didnt recognize this threat and then warn her 2 months ago|0 I heard it can boost to 13 millions per day after the set up is completed in a month or so|1 I miss a functioning government|0 That was my exact thought who in the world says just got out of quarantine for a potential worldwide pandemic think Im gonna go walk around the mall I mean how many 100 HEALTHY people even just walk around the mall nowadays lol|1 Cuz Turks are clean|1 Pa Gov Wolf to issue a disaster declaration in one hour over coronavirushttpswwwycnews20200306pennsylvaniacoronavirusdisasterdeclaration|0 Get comfortable with the idea of selfisolating for 23 monthsWe moved to lockdown on Thursday I am already bored I bought a ps4 today hoping games will keep me entertained and I did get 2 hours in today I am buying a bunch of page turning novels and we have a long project list|1 You outside the US It wasnt available in the US until the mid 90s and not mainstream for a few years after that Back then new parents werent real keen on shoving a new vaccine into their kids like how the response to Gardasil was when it first came outMy last child got the vaccine and I hope her immunity holds|1 The US is either very stupid or they will shut down the entire country within the coming days|0 The sooner they start the trials the sooner theyll be able to vaccinate people against the virus That means less deaths I dont understand your logic at all Isnt that what we all want For people to recover live and be healthy and for the outbreak to end Who cares what their reasoning or motivation is At least theyre doing something about it|1 If people can go in and out of the containment zone doesnt that defeat the purpose of a containment zone|1 Its not too late though It will slow it down by some amount which is greater than not doing any check at allYes its clearly worse at this than widespread lockdown but much better than nothing|1 I shouldnt laugh but Im just imagining a load of infected people knocking on doors just to check the occupant is okay|0 I think they had no reason to suspect this was a caseCPR is being performed by all kinds of professionals and nonprofessionals all over the US and the world as we speak Would not be good to just stop it either|0 I dont mean why did he catch it we all get viruses at some stage I mean what made him so vulnerable that he died|0 Ugh and now its also a religious one Its ok V P Pence will pray for us all|1 Buut the infected people who have been tested ve will have been spreading the virus the last 23 weeks so there could be a lull in new cases and a levelling off due to people incubating right now|0 This could even cause a sharp increase in deaths Just imagine the amount of people with coronavirus but they simply arent aware due to lack of testing So many potential people with coronavirus will go without adequate treatment|0 No but when you combine old with freakishly unhealthy|0 It seems to me that mechanical ventilators along with staff constitute the most important limiting factors Space and beds are relatively easy to increase compared to them|1 Once had a RN prescribe sodium pills to my mother who had congestive heart failure It worsened her condition in about two days|0 Oh no I have that dont know if the sign as anything to do with covid But interesting if it went up recently and they added a Corona virus link|1 Its pretty scary Im hoping our kupuna will be ok in all of this They should have stopped all tourism a long time ago Now our islands have sick people and were running out of rice Not just rice a lot of things Please just stay home people now is not the time for a vacation This is home for some And then we hear the story about people coming here on vacation going home then testing positive Scary stuff for sure|1 Yeah whats in AprilIm prepared for a weird response|1 Id go one step further by declaring any private online reseller will have their inventory expropriated for health care workers|1 Perhaps but only if you can get into a hospital If the hospitals are full the death rate will be much higher|0 Even though this virus might ravage the world I can take comfort in knowing my waifu body pillow will be with me to the very end The bond between a man and his waifu pillow is an unbreakable fortress of dedication and passion This virus might take my life but it will never take my love|0 Damn Look at Ivanka|0 I have no doubt that theyve fudged the numbers somewhat but why would they be willing to admit that they were getting thousands of infected a day to only go back on that and lie about only getting a hundred or so now|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Our ability to dive face first into mortality is unrivaled by any other country|1 Well but of course they do Of course they do|1 Yeah after the announcement of the first death in WA state I noticed that the stores today were crazy I couldnt find hand sanitizer anywhere here Water Lysol disinfectant spray EmergenCAirborne canned foods bleach vitamins painkillers allergy meds and toilet paper seemed to be the items that emptied the most shelves Not sure about the east coast because Ive been looking mainly into the news about the Seattle area but I bet you similar things are happening in big cities I was lucky enough to stock up on masks and hand sanitizer before the craze Glad you stocked up on nonperishables Nothing is for certain but well be hearing more in the coming weeks Im currently in college for Microbiology and a lot of the people I know in the grad school program and at research labs near me are predicting that this virus is here to stay and that the majority of the world will get it I think best we can do is prepare and hope that we are lucky enough to get mild cases or catch it before the hospitals are full|1 Maybe the world might become a tad bit more united as people after we get though all of us Maybe its not an alien invasion that unites us as the movie Independence Day would have you believe Perhaps its going to be an invisible enemy one that knows no race color religion or sexual preference Maybe just maybe we can come to love each other more regardless of our differences Life is truly precious and we should never take it for granted We are all fighting the same enemy this time with this enemy we are all allies This isnt about America UK China or any other countries this is about Us You me and everyone in between Lets fight the good fight let us remember that the entire human race is right there fighting with you We will persevere we will overcome our lives will continue and we will carry on Godspeed everyoneIm right there beside you in solidarity|0 Sorry which article are you referring I linked manyOr do you believe them all to be lgenpresse|0 Yes and the whole world is in on it Think about it the whole world had to cooperate to get rid of TrumpEditYes the s was implied but these days maybe I should have added it|1 I teach horse back riding in China and our club is currently trying to figure out how to do online classesfor horse ridingChina knows no limits|0 So is a mask going to help someone who isnt infected Im hearing so many different things and I just so happen to have a few masks in my work truck lol|1 Nah man I was hoping to spark an interest in your researching your misunderstandings about WHO Literally nothing you wrote is accurate but I know enough about human psychology to know that if I write an exhaustive explanation with citations youll not merely ignore it but your viewpoints will actually strengthen in response digging the hole deeper as it were You after all willingly accepted conspiracy theorieshoaxes to arrive at your current viewpoint You have to come to understanding on your own in your own good time Be well|1 Haha no problem I dont envy your position Good luck|1 I work for a major BPO company here in the Philippines and so far only the following actions have been taken that are related to COVID191 All companysponsored outings are cancelled2 Team building activities are all cancelled and any future ones discouraged3 Surveying employees in terms of PC hardware and the Internet connection for a possible work at home scenario Internet sucks in my part of the world so high chance this will not be implemented though 4 Hand sanitizers at all doors5 Temperature checks at the all building entrances If its determined youre body temp is of feverish levels you are asked to see the company doctor and then an assessment is made if you are to be sent home or notIt scares me a bit that our coemployees in China have been working at home but were not|1 On the bright side in my country we have only two international airports with maybe 1015 arrivals a day We dont have any arrivals from China and also most of the arrivals are our citizens because were shithole that nobody goes toThe down side is our health care system is corrupted beyond imagination and not good My city has roughly 80100k citizens metro area and only one hospital with maybe only few 510 beds eqquiped with ventilator for pneumonia cases Imagine now in case of corona epidemy hundreds of patients turning up to hospital with severe symptoms of pneumonia fighting for these 10 beds lol|1 Well one synonym for under is less than So less than control sounds about right|1 He said it was the democrats new hoax as in theyre using it as a political weapon You really ought to hear it from the man who said its mouth before you jump to conclusions|0 Indeed They bear the weight of gov incompetence and human nature There have been reports of PPE theft in medical establishments Our medical professionals are facing a catastrophe in a broken system while surrounded by people who cant MMORPG to save their species let alone their souls God help them God help us all You seem invested perhaps in the field How can I help Hardware stores still have plastic sheeting would donating some to my local ED be helpful Would it be helpful to call the local ED and ask what supplies might be useful Does anyone have any ideas how to being to repair this|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Heres an analysishttpskottkeorg2003excellentpresentationonthelatestcovid19researchhygienetipsandtreatmentoptions that puts it even later at late May to early June You can check the assumptions he uses to get that estimateFWIW author is a professor of neurobiology and bioengineering not an epidemiologistAlso I think this could change if some of the treatments being tested now are effective and rapidly deployed But thats still a big if|1 How many 1000s have died at home alone Not cared about or even counted|0 Its because of the mask shortage isnt it Our masks were likely bought and sent to China weeks ago|0 Im hoping soon It sucks Its inconvenient We can not afford it But Im a caretaker for my elderly mother and Ill sell a tv once its over if I have to Personally I dont see it We are massive Best case major cities based on state decisions Purely my opinion from reading too much about it no evidence|0 Im sorry That must be extremely stressful for you I am sending lots of love and if you need someone to vent to feel free to PM me |1 I really want to hear these peoples explanations when tens of thousands of people are dieing from Coronavirus in the US Knowing their inability to admit their wrong they still will find some way to claim its a hoax This next couple months is going to be an interesting although very sad social experiment|0 Perhaps youre joking but there a lot of diseases lurking on the bottom of shoes that are not at all harmless to kids I might consider addressing this somehow|0 Thats probably one reason they would try to downplay it or hold back information or not report cases because people would freak out The panic is why the gov might wait until the last minute to declare it a high level emergency even if it gets that bad|0 Thank you|1 The company did not say how much money workers who need to take sick leave will receiveWhy not say how much they will receive I bet it is chump change and they are just using this to do some cheap PR headlines|0 No rush though more loved ones will be lost and all that but British spirit will get us through We can look at doing something soon when the time is right flatten the curve Send the kids to school send them to see granny and grandpa its gonna be good|1 Last I heard China has already set up factories to produce it One such factory can make 2 million doses a day A drug manufacturer in the Netherlands says he could crank out enough for their entire country quickly enough The United States definitely has the capacity to follow suit In terms of ease of creating it and cost it would be best case scenario if this turned out to be the right treatment for the virus|1 Thank you I am a little bit better these couple days Earlier this week I was obviously depressed and my partner told me to stay away from reddit and all the news My friends said they cry so easy these days and I said yeah me too|1 Fuck the rest of them give me the power and you and I can split it 5050|0 In regards to Taiwan you seem to have made the error of mislabeling it as a province in China while the Republic of China is geographically close it is no more a province of China then the Philippines or japan I hope you correct your list of Chinese provinces soon|0 These shutdowns are about slowing the spread and trying to reduce the stress on the health care system COVID19 is global at this point and with so many not being tested and a fair number having mild enough cases this virus I fear is endemic at this point and this just delaying it and buying the health care system time|1 What could go wrong Spring Break College Kids Daytona Bike Week Whole lot of body fluid swapping going on boysAmerica 1Seriously though how long until US has the most cases and overwhelms their hospitals|0 Most people were too late to buy one and now cant if people are told they should be wearing masks and they cant buy one theyll panicThats my best guess anyway|1 If the UK really keeps going down this road and become all infected will they be completely locked off from the rest of the world until there is a vaccine|0 I would agree that much they dont fight enough for us or wages|1 NOW ITS PRETTY PLEASE|1 Pretty much everyone is scared but for people with medical knowledge the whole situation is pretty fascinating and interesting Of course its not something that we should joke about because it is also a tragedy and people are dying If i could i would gladly go to Wuhan and risk my life as medical staff to help those people|1 Work at a grocery store myself We are working our asses off We got this Remember to be kind and polite to us as we are trying to keep our community fed We arent closing And remain calm your favorite keto coconut lattes will be there for yaOh please cover your mouth when you cough How so many people are not aware that you should do this even if youre not sick is amazing|1 Millions of people take cruise vacations each year and dont get sick|1 Also wouldnt the fact that asymptomatic person not knowing they were infected still transmit the same way Like we all sneeze for whatever reason when were not sick so a person could sneeze and transmit it that way right Or sharing drinks or doing the hunkachunka|1 Rextaekwondo by any chance|1 Thank you Will edit my post|1 No experts are panicking either My spouse works in emergency medicine and aside from being aware and educated on what is taking place hadnt given it a second thoughtI agree I think anxiety seems to be the underlying theme here no doubt exacerbated by social media|0 You should see us in the US struggling to not seem like were crazy because were explaining the severity of this outbreak|0 I dont know you but Ill remember you now Thank you|0 why hasnt the WHO declared this a huge problem yet they say its just an issue for china while here in Chicago someone got infected|0 jesus thats amazing well done Netherlands|1 They should be the only people facing the consequences of their stupid stunts but thousands if not millions of french and europeans will suffer because of itFuck them|0 i wish that this course of action were seen as the responsible thing to do it makes so much sense i feel teachers are not getting the recognition they deserve for this public good personal endangerment thank you for having chosen to be an educator i have heard no one speak of ppe for teachersi know it might ruffle feathers or upset children but i remember working with little ones and the bodily fluids exposure in the younger grades is insane|0 I agree that there needs to be more transparency about the masks From what Ive understood what youve said is correct but another point is that masks protect when in close proximity to those that have the virus when they breath or cough Close proximity transmission is almost entirely healthcare workers treating patients that are showing symptomsThe vast majority of community transition is from through surface contact and then touching the face The improper use of masks generally significantly raises the amount of face contact through adjusting the straps touching the inside etc without sanitizing beforehandBut yes at least in an AMA they should be providing this level of nuance instead of just saying it does not help Especially in this commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingfjh2uwj where they start out with a short response and then have the opportunity to expand into a lengthier discussion|1 No Today is 21 in Chinait was 12K increase 200 increase global And now 13K only Hubei What Im saying is yesterdays totals seem way off so good chance that some of todays totals are actually yesterdaysIf you add 20018Kadding some for rest of china and divide over 2 days youd get 1K per day which is a slightly decreasing rate of infection Well have to see if anyone issues a correction but obviously these infections arent literally happening each day so you really should be doing some sort of averaging to get something closer to realityThe problem is there is still such little data to work with it is hard to know The lack of reporting could be a sign of something worse than bureaucratic backlogEDIT UGH Maybe youre right I guess Johns Hopkins has been updating Hubei at around 811pm EST time Seems irresponsible of them to put a 131 total up on their graph before all totals are in Well see what they do maybe they see it as 21 I dunno |0 since im not a nerd im assuming we just add like kool aid and get fucked up|0 But guys we cant be silly and upset the market with truth CNBC shouldnt be a staple news sourceSeriously though a lot of economic malaise is going to be diverted from the noted slowing growth over the past two quarters and blamed on this because thats what will make uneducated Americans vote for trump|0 Yeah I feel shitty that it is happening I am glad that I was following this sub and was already a prepper This just pushed me into overdrive and finish getting my generator and solar panels Right now this as real as it gets and the fact it is going to get worse leaves me with little compassion toward those who didnt listen chose to ignore the videos from China and laughed at me These types of things didnt happen just months ago they were occuring today When they are quarantined with out any real supplies I will take a pull off a bottle of Jack and Salute their stupidity I hope that if it is the big reset these idiots get swept away and the rest of us come out of this able to have a decent life for our kids Fuck Them Its their arogant type that caused this|0 Mine thought that His skeptical side is RIDICULOUS However he is feeling better about everything watching the news He should already know that I am smarter than he is They forget and we just need to remind them Good job responsible dog owner|1 look to thailand they have from the first day not blocked airplanes direct from wuhan at 3 airportsand after new years day 150000 chines visitors and all no problem just 40 cases|0 Thats not even the worst of it Hed most definitely lose his job and have to sell his houseBasically starting a new life|1 I work at a grocery store in Southern California I work graveyard shifts stocking stuff The store is absolutely ravaged by the people Its very hard to keep anything on the shelves First the paper was going fast Than the bleach and canned food started to go Rice beans meat and chicken started to go Bread cereal and frozen Foods was next By the end of the week every department was hit with major gaps We make sure to whip down the carts as well Essentially everyone is getting ready for a month long quarantine|1 I think China did slow it down massively We have plenty of information to indicate the extent to which they limited travel and even preventing people from going outside for the past month These measures absolutely would slow it down considerably Theres no way well pull off something like that in democracies because our governments dont have that kind of power on purposex200BThat said I do think its very possible that China intentionally underreported their total case andor death counts I think well have a much better idea if that is the case as we see how this spreads and its mortality rates in countries with more transparency like South Korea and Italy|1 yeah great idea Our government is notorious for not putting corporate losses onto the citizens and its non partisan|1 Thats a great option that I didnt even think of|1 Cina had 1015 cases of infected people requiring hospitalization Italy has around 20 mostly due to demographic You are right in mathematics 110 or 15 is fraction|0 Yes i believe that I agree that there is a high probability well reach capacity in the coming weeks but a collapse makes it sound like everyone is on their own with no healthcare at all While not treating patients would be devasting not treating anyone would mean catastrophic I just hate the rhetoric of this subreddit sometimes they make it sound like the world is about to end with no hope I do feel like this is a scary time and people will die because of failed actions but there is hope We acted faster than a lot of countries in decreasing the likely hood well be at max capacity for longer|0 Trumps election is gonna be in shambles come November American here and I do not support these actions|0 Im sure Ill get downvoted for this but I dont care As someone who never played the games or read the books I found the show borderline incomprehensible very poorly cheesily written and just not good Seemed aimed at a target market of 15 year old boysIts Xena the Warrior Princess with more tits and violence but all the same cheese and camp|0 It started as suggestions in Italy as well That lasted 5 days|1 You mean having a ticker of each a letter with their count and doing weird addition to imply some global conspiracy is not a trusted sourceThink about computers and virus think about Bill Gates LOLLiterally adding letters and making up a narrative This is a sad joke|0 The government have never said they are actively using herd immunity as the aim The fact is this virus is not going away anytime soon It is a global pandemic and so there is no point trying to contain it A lot of people are going to become infected and unfortunately people will die We really cant do anything to stop this without effective antivirals or a vaccine The government is therefore thinking more longterm The aim is to allow it to spread but more slowly than naturally so that the cases are manageable for the NHS Mass isolation for a few weeks would reduce spread for that period but then it would bounce back after that period This is not a sustainable way to live for the foreseeable future Herd immunity would be a hopeful side effect of this method but it certainly isnt the main aimHowever I do agree the government has lacked clarity in their explanation of their approach and could be doing more to protect the most vulnerable|1 Except those idiots were dead before they even realised their mistake But these people|0 No|0 Very true but if we revert to battlefield conditions which we might something is better than nothing And wont we just be able to spray everything down with bleachwater mix to sterilize things Ive heard that this specific virus is very susceptible to any sort of disinfectant and doesnt hold up well outside of the human body|1 I havent heard of any major outbreaks hereDefine major and hereI believe the media wants to WEAPONIZE this virus to sway the electionOf course you do And Italy Italy is working against the incumbent More people die from the common cold dailyThat is a total fabrication Death from the common cold is exceedingly rare|0 Whats the timeline for actually knowing whats going to happen in terms of being quarantined schools shutting down etc Like when do we know whether theyre going to attempt to contain it|1 Yesterday the woman said that quest and lab corp are finding positive results at 1 Which means we ran close to 200000 tests this weekIf that can be confirmed Id feel a lot more comfortable|1 Thats pretty crazy|1 I think thats an early Jewish practice as well|1 Your support is greatly appreciated D|1 No that doesnt count A handful of immediate connections were dismissed so you have nothing to worry about Move along citizen The economy is up|1 Disney World lets you reschedule up to a month in advance at no penalty Im guessing theyll have a policy change soon to take it down to a week or something Theyll close eventually at least for a month or two Theyll have to How long they stay closed is another matter At some point theyll have to reopen If the summer heat truly slows this thing downlook for it to reopen in June3 other parks in Asia have closed All theme parks across the country should be closed tbh not just Disney|0 I was at the Flower Show on Sunday I was nervous to go but didnt want to disappoint family was super careful but it was crowded Ugh|1 What airline Thought there were no flights out anymore|0 This evening people were singing from their windows it even happened in my neighborhood The singing was terrible but I found myself opening my window and smiling and clapping from afar at perfect strangers who cheered back at me It was beautiful|1 Ive been stocking up since early January I have 60000 calories of food for 2 people which should last 23 weeks depending on how things go Thats on top of a pretty nicely stocked home so Im ready with food and Ive got water but thats more for earthquakes since I dont think were going to need water Still nice to have though masks hand sanitizer TP batteriesAnything else yall can think of|1 I see they keep their hospitals like they keep their wet markets|1 How is the virus transmitted exactly I mean how can I catch it and therefore whst to avoid doing|0 No one is ever allowed to help anyone else Ever|1 Great post Make sure you can keep your morale up if you are stuck Low morale and boredom can lead to bad decisions Also make sure if you have kids they have structured activities and free play time Nothing will shatter morale like a bored temperamental child Trust me on this one Personally I plan on catching up on my reading and rewatching some Mr Robot The roommate is taking their frustration out on people in Modern Warfare with a PKM|1 As a Chinese I found that many foreigners have a problem No matter what it is first laugh at the government of my country and then scold the system of my country and finally draw an absurd conclusion This seems to be the standard format Then you are happyI can only say that believe it or not the current situation in China is very good and it is gradually getting better Finally I hope that Italy Iran and other friends who love China will get better as soon as possible and wish you good luck|1 Yes we will lol dumb retard|0 I know youre probably kidding But it has been found that urine and feces can spread the infection It stands to reason that semen would also be able to if it comes in contact with the mucus membranes of the mouth vagina or anus Use condoms|1 EVERYONE suspects that the numbers are wrong That has nothing to do with what my opinion is|0 I was looking on Twitter and saw this one girl tweeting about still going because her flight was nonrefundable and this other dude trying to arrange a party in Miami smh |1 The CCP is carrying out a propaganda campaign to distance themselves from the virus and saying no one knows the origin after them using the term Wuhan virus since the beginning Wouldnt be surprised if they are manipulating the discourse to paint it racist|0 Fucking rcoronavirus Did they even ask you for verification before they removed the story That thread is so insanely censored even after CLOJunkie|0 Absolutely theyre staying at home with years of food supply hell they can just never leave the house for YEARS I gotta wake up and risk my life for your company so you can stock pile more Deliver it to your door and not even get a raise Huh Shame on me for allowing that And if its survival of the fit arent you feeding off of the superior who invented all your safety right now It wasnt your superior mind that came up with the meds etc that are helping you quarantine Seems like youre the weak feeding off the back of the strong no Some bullshit outdated archaic philosophy that only belongs in the jungle with animals that cant think as far as we do or have thumbs And fuck whoever thinks it should still be law|0 Well thats great if there is still a Taiwan 2 years from now|1 Could you ask your mom if there is any risk of it infecting cows We are a little concerned at the dairy I work at|0 Tortoises dont go down easily|0 My thoughts exactly I watched all the different parts and the logistics it would take to implement a lot of what was discussed would take a great deal of effort and time It came too late even if world authorizes were actually interested in doing anything to begin with|1 Lets revisit the history of SARS Guangdong Outbreak at 16 Nov 2002 notified WHO at 10 Feb 2003 but with false information Also delayed disclosure of SARS make it spread to border area including Hong KongAlso a team of expert from WHO was not allowed for entering GuangdongGood luck with getting accurate information on Wuhan SARS or WARS from China Hard to blame anyone when lies had no consequences|0 same this has been an open tab this entire week seeing how news or anything else doesnt update or at least share info glad the rest of the world gets to share the info but the dwellers of society have to sit and wait prob untill its to late Cheers to normal people They are awesome|1 I agree My place of work is right on the beach so Im wondering if they have any emergency plan in case of hurricane etc Im very emotionally charged right now and obviously wont make any decisions atm but Im almost wanting to boycott this My aunt is a nurse and is seeing this first hand Shes not able to test people properly and is overwhelmed Its only going to escalate|1 Millions of people get the flu every year in the US Do you test every person that has flu like symptoms I dont think there has been enough guidance on the corona virus yet Remember America is basically 50 different countries|0 This is the important lesson Are we going to learn it or not Probably just depends on how much this is going to suck and for how longWhen government defunds basic govermment functions like pandemic preparedness you know they dont have their shit together|1 Why would all of the bodies have been loaded onto that bus so haphazardly Wouldnt the hospital have a morgue or some other way to deal with a normal volume of dead bodies|0 I agree In the us every state will take different measures and it will be a chaos you are seeing it in slowmotion because the us are a much larger country|0 Yes This reddit is a voice of reason in the hysteria and scare tactics of the mass media|0 Fishshellfish tanks are very different from having live animals in cages ready for slaughter|1 Exactly what do you believe is propaganda|0 Wash even when it may be clearing in severity and whatnot and even during regular times If we ever take anything from this virus its that food regulation needs to be better and we need to practice better hygiene and cleanliness and social mindfulness|1 I disagree Fewer flights mean fewer sick people entering Canada means less chance of community spread|0 Damnit I think I knew that too|0 I mean having mudbutt is pretty itchy|1 Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and FreedomsSection 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is part of the Constitution of Canada It is commonly known as the notwithstanding clause or la disposition drogatoire in French or as the override power and it allows Parliament or provincial legislatures to temporarily override certain portions of the Charter PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Thank you for posting this|1 Story is about Starbucks in the US they very much have a standard payment system in all their storesStarbucks SBUXon Wednesday announced it is temporarily suspending the use of personal cups and tumblers at its North American stores to help prevent the spread of coronavirus|1 Well we need to fucking know that Especially since we know they just let 150 people off in California and trusted themTo self quarantine|1 oh i guess this is the second wind part of the virus taken effect now but whats scarier how do we know Chinese arent just putting down second infection victims|0 NonUS people is there any push in your countries to restrict travel tofrom the US If governments are doing that for countries like Italy that are actively testing it makes no sense to not do the same for the US The virus has been allowed to spread here for weeks and theres no telling how many may be infected|0 No it doesnt thats not what median means You are think of mean Medians definition is 50 comes before and 50 comes after thats it|0 No a citation for the rest of your post the fear mongering part|0 Can people just not comment if they dont know the subject at allVentilator delivers its pressure through an endotracheal tube so it has zero affect on your face Unless you are talking about noninvasive ventilation like BiPAP then you put a skin barrier on your mask to protect against pressure sore Either way they are not used internally And there is no constant motion in your faceVentilator applies positive pressure which stents your alveolus and creates volumes in your lungVentilated patient in some case of braindeadcoma that Ive seen have been on it for years They are not okay but thats not the ventilators fault|1 THE UK has ALREADY banned the export of the most effective treatment against this disease As of February 26 2020 the UK government has added chloroquine to the list of medicines that cannot be parallel exported from the UK Chloroquine was never on this list before This likely happened because of the growing body of evidence of chloroquines effectiveness against coronavirus|1 I have no confidence we will use these Our government is incompetent and denied the ones from The Who I hope to everything we accept these but I doubt we will|0 Isnt saving life a huge incentive especially for those who have been saved by doctors and nurses|1 Ill be buying N99 if I can find them|0 Fair point But a sheep wasnt domesticated to be a companion It was domesticated to be food|1 I think it has more to do with the nature of NBA players lives they are constantly flying around the country interacting with team staff driverspilots hotel staff fansNot only do they have the resourcesmoney to be tested they are an important group to test as they could be carrying the virus across the country and infecting a lot of people unintentionally|1 The conspiracy is that the hotelier lobby pushed them to wait until the window for refunds had passed to make this announcement It was obvious they were going to cancel it but its insane they didnt do it well in advance to reduce the numbers of irresponsible people who will still come At least Lombardy is now quarantined and a lot of flights from Milan cancelled to insulate the number of Italians from high risk areas|0 Renters get screwed over as usual|0 Theres a political prisoner in an Iranian prison because Boris Johnson fucked up and said she was a journalist shes not her husband has reported she has a virus now but Iran is refusing to test prisoners Shes been on hunger strike so she must be very weak already Its not good at all|0 You just want people dying dont you|1 I would guess a reasonable condition may be a letter from your doctor I am not a lawyer though Is it your HR department or your manager who is not crazy about you working from home If it is your manager then maybe you can talk to HR I am also in DT Toronto My husbands workplace is planning a day next week where everyone has to work from home in order to test their network and that is still operates smoothly Apparently a lot of companies are doing this You could approach HR and ask what contingencies they are working on because of your health conditions and you can mention other companies are doing things like this That may be a helpful way to start this conversation Certainly your health and this virus are different circumstances than just regular working from home|1 Dude please get a life You are pathetic|0 Exponential with a time from infection to symptoms of 514 days where people are only contagious while symptomatic|0 Everyone here is afraid of high taxes if we get universal health coverage but somehow dont realize that we already pay much higher taxes to private companies for less benefit|1 I will admit I originally blew this off as a China problem and did not look into it much until tonight From what I have been reading today I am beginning to regret doing so How bad is it going to get How long is this process of spread and recovery going to take|0 No MA has 138 CONFIRMED cases MA likely has 150000|0 Truth|1 This is interestingEdit after watching in full its honestly a little bit of a let down from what I was expecting This is just a great PSA about what we currently know and not really a warning that anonymous and our government know more than they are telling as I initially suspected|1 Or rather welcome being someone that could become a focus of contagion while asymptomatic in a context Im basically useless and unprotected and where there are lots of old and immunocompromised people Anyway Idk why I bother arguing with someone that posts about the Big Replacement of white people|0 Also democrats are already prepping more than republicans raising their chances of survival Plus democratic districts will likely be selfquarantined better or in bigger numbers whereas conservative neighborhoods may still mingle in denial|1 You know all those online posts about long lineups at grocery stores And asking if anyone knows where toilet paper can be foundPretend its four weeks from now and substitute emergency room for grocery store and substitute a ventilator for my loved one for toilet paperThis is where that curve takes usImagine lines around the block at your local hospital|0 I hope things get better for you And yeah America is run by wage slaves and incredibly rich corporations Its disgusting|1 Need some volunteer here to archive those vids and post them to another site so they remain after twitter deletes Also I cant play videos on twitter for whatever reason so that could be applicable to others too|0 Your wife and kids are lucky to have you|1 Thats an interesting observation Id bet during the peak of the outbreak when test kits were limited there were other factors selecting for severity too Sickest patients seen first and the likeSo Koreas aggressive widespread testing will probably be a better sample and their numbers over the coming weeks are probably better total infected predictors|1 I get what you were trying to say though We cant just 3D print some quickly sketched out ventilators and have the problem solved However with a problem like Covid19 which is brand new world wide all of the aspects of the virus still isnt understood etc Etc What Im trying to say is This is a new large varied issue and one that we have to take and appreciate any good news we are able to find It will take many amazing humans solving many different smaller issuesparts of the whole until we have big enough solutions to put this all to rest|1 We get 10 PTOs 10 calendar holidays and 3 sick leave If we work a Saturday or a Calendar holiday due to a production release we get an extra PTOI used to work in Europe We had 15 Calendar holidays 32 PTOs unlimited sick time with doctors note if I worked any of the Calendar holidays I got additional PTO I was able to take a Month of vacation back home every year as well as many short 23 day breaks when work wasnt super busy to go visit neigboring countries|1 You joke but hooking up two people to the same ventilator is absolutely a thing that happens in extreme emergencies shortages|0 We would never send soldiers to battle without Riffles Bullets Ration Packs Strong Leadership a battle plan A casualty recovery plan Air Support Tanks Demining Equipment A bunch of Drones Nurses MEH just put a mask if you can find one Hopefully at the end of this there will be a significant reexamination of where public funds should be going Anyway do you best stay safe and we appreciate your service|1 I can imagine this will sink into the most diehard Trump apologists head once a loved one succumbs to the virus Just kidding|1 You can have 2 people at 59 and 2 people at 90 and you have 50 of people under 60 but the median age is above 70Edit My error i confused median with mean|0 The rise of trickle up economics The lower and middle class dictate where stimulus is spent supporting business that provide superior products and service while the shit head companies are left in the cold|1 Please do not use robinhood its the trading equivalent of going to Vegas Open something called a brokerage account at any large investment firm Vanguard Fidelity Schwab and put your money in an index fund that tracks the SP 500 Look for one with the lowest expense ratio you can find Do not buy individual stocks Sorry let me emphasize that some more DO NOT BUY INDIVIDUAL STOCKSIf you have access to a 401K plan I highly recommend you max your yearly allotment on that first before you open any sort of brokerage account You are buying into a bear market so Im assuming you wont need to access this money anytime in the near future anyway but be aware that withdraws from a 401K before retirement incur tax penalties|1 Thank God for Scientists sharing information|1 Thank you for your hard work I felt better just reading that we have a system like this in place|1 You were banned for mildly suggesting something positive in regards to Trump indirectly This is Reddit|1 America has become the dystopia it assumes it will never beA right punch in the gut when followed up with news of New York school district not closing down schools because of the homeless populace of students who would have no place to sleep cook etc|0 Thats a bit lucky for both Taiwan and Hong Kong|1 what makes me sad is when it was happening in Wuhan everyone was saying it was CCP propaganda as if chinese people arent human |0 I dont care how deadly or not deadly people think it is It is killing the economy and supply lines|0 Sure Check these and coming ones if you can find any thing out of it Github repo is in the descriptionhttpsyoutubea4LXFcEuRUUhttpsyoutube0iM4kcVGVIwhttpsyoutubeypNCPQDvsU0|1 Bureaucracy is why Let these organizations run without political interference and theyd do a lot better|1 Are you saying disaster movies are something new|0 They gave him a drug still in trials for the pneumonia It is likely that if an outbreak happens here most of us would not get this drugGiven the radiographic findings the decision to administer oxygen supplementation the patients ongoing fevers the persistent positive 2019nCoV RNA at multiple sites and published reports of the development of severe pneumonia34 at a period consistent with the development of radiographic pneumonia in this patient clinicians pursued compassionate use of an investigational antiviral therapy Treatment with intravenous remdesivir a novel nucleotide analogue prodrug in development1011 was initiated on the evening of day 7 and no adverse events were observed in association with the infusionRemdesivirhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiRemdesivir|1 You know every single virus is more dangerous for seniors|0 Im on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi and things are tense but nobody seems to say aloud that they are worried Stores are still pretty full and things look pretty normal at the post office The state officials are woefully supplied both physically and intellectually and we still have the Confederacy flag on our state flag So yea this place is still the same dumpster fire just not as bad as during slavery and Jim Crow|0 Breaking news Why testing aggressively right from the beginning would have helped curb the spread of Covid19|0 uclojunkie is a corrupt shitbag the likes of which we havent seen in The Netherlands since the days of the collaborating NSB in WW2 He is modern day nazi scum If anyone bans me for this remark at least Ill have been on the right side of history instead of these WHO fuckers who are actively making sure our parents and grandparents meet an untimely demise|0 Thank you the detailed response I was kinda worried because I have a mild cough Not quite fatigued or anything at this point but well see|1 Take care of the fucking AMERICAN PEOPLE Jesus Christ Oh now all of a sudden its an issue since lawmakers are starting to feel the effects Fuck this shit|0 I mean I taught 9th grade bio students this Its just simple punnet squares A 9th grader Could be solving your blood type|1 Been saying the vaccine hope is not based on any evidence and is quite dangerous No way on Gods Earth would be be in the 1st 100 million people|0 Flu kills 20K60K Americans a year|0 Ugh|0 South Korea numbers are going down and hopefully continue to do so The cases are getting caught early so free treatment starts early for everyone citizens and foreigners I hope they actually ramp up the testing as the numbers decrease That cult threw Korea a real curve ball but this government is really stepping up to the challenge in a completely transparent manner|1 Yeah they should get more workers and have them wash their hands frequently It helps both the employees and the country in general as it reduces the risk of infection|1 Its a shame really of all the people to infect Congress would be the most useful Most of those old fucks are corrupt to the bone and have been actively damaging this country every day theyve been in office|0 I wish there were a way to create a kickstarter to compensate everyone whose jobs are adversely affected by this|1 Wth The point of this story is to show that those battling the outbreak are just ordinary humans like you and me trying to live their lives but cant and many even losing them And all you got from this was the Chinese government getting their comeuppance from innocent citizens dying I understand your frustration to the government but this mentality is in no way respectful at all to those dying and suffering due to the virus|0 Healthcare workers continue to sacrifice while greedy companies like SimonMalls continue to exacerbate the situationThe biggest mall in America besides MoA refuses to close because PA govenor Tom Wolf didnt specify what non essential retail isKing of prussia is in Pennsylvanias hot spot county where everything was ordered to be closed A childrens doctor in king of prussia tested positive and now most of PAs cases are all in this same county I cant believe how irresponsible they areHopefully if more people know kopmall will be shamed into doing whats right Twitter kopmall or kingofprussiamall to make it trend maybe Thanks|1 Which is kind of nonsense isnt it If the idea is to make shit looks like it is solved then these hundreds of billions of dollars would be spent in propaganda rather than actually building hospitals and locking down provinces after provinces|0 Of course they will be able to read Our Dear Leader will ensure that all children are taught to read They will receive a full education and be taught all the wonderful things the party does for us|1 Thank you tongzhi for your service|1 Because youre bad at math Bloomberg could have given every American one dollar and fifty cents not 15M|0 Thats stupid college kids for you thinking its time to play and spread germs Not to mention the idiots who decided to travel and think it was fun to come back shouldve kept your stupid ass in another country |0 as an alumni How can I help is there a petition I can sign |1 There are plenty of rare earth sources in North America Theyre just not as cheap to mine as Africa And tantalum has sources in Australia Brazil Canada and elsewhere but its currently cheaper to get from Africa Weve already been seeing lots of retrenchment from China and shifting of production lines to other countries onshoring to the US or shifting to countries like Vietnam Expect that to accelerate and broaden in scope as people see the costs of relying on incompetent authoritarians and being tightly coupled to such places Autarky is a bad idea for tons of reasons the main being that you lose so much by trying to be completely independent Theres a reason why the first military goal in a conflict is to cut the enemys supply lines Which is why China is at grave risk in any extended conflict of a distant blockade that cuts off the Straits of Malacca and other approaches to the South China Sea Chinas artificial reefs in the SCS may be useful for area denial but are useless to keep open vital areas that can be closed by one US CVN in the Andaman Sea and one CVN south of Java|0 They banned exports to make sure they have enough for their own patients|0 The best blood type you dont need an excuse to B positive|1 Mass quarantines might work but as implemented in China they sure dontI think by this point everybody on earth knows that getting captured for quarantine in China is more for the governments good than your own Infact it seems like people dont expect to come back in one pieceSo I think its safe to say there are many many people avoiding reporting infections Why go to the hospital if nothing good will come of it right|1 CHINA is STILL lying|0 It means more people going out into the world who just have a cold and infecting a ton more people OK i get that Thx|1 Trust me I feel the same wayMy partner even told me that Im being too judgmental because I said that people who keep saying you and I will be fine because were young or we dont have any conditions are SELFISH|1 Follow that by enjoying our new show in the theatre starring Tami Flu|1 Yeah many metro areas in China have still semifrequently had Hazardous Air Quality Indexes over 300 and very frequently over 200IIRC the AQI in Wuhan was 400 a week or so ago despite being on complete lockdown|1 Oh God Japanese jail is no laughing matter You wont lack for basic needs but they would break you mentally|1 Koreas stats cant be counted on either because its skewed towards 20s majority of the cases are from the cult which has a large 20s women following and most of the cases arent resolved But korea gives us a baseline MINIMUM 6 mortality rate in a best case scenerio and likely to be upwards of 1 as cases resolve The true mortality rate is likely somewhere between 23|1 Love this Sarcastically request something happenGet provided with example of this thing happening Shift argument because results arent as expectedWell played sir|0 Its still expected to worsen in the next few days But theyre past the inflection point Regardless this is good news|0 He should be charged with attempted murder|0 This is a good point I am used to breaking down long complex processes into bite sized pieces so I have gotten into the habit of eschewing the more esoteric parts in order to not overwhelm people and focus on the main issue Then when they are more comfortable I will start discussing the topic with more nuance because theres some context to place it in|1 Ill drive my car a lot to contribute to global warming|0 you are hilarious|1 Yeah but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be called out Ignoring and appeasing violent authoritarians hasnt had very good results historically|0 Many 2035 yr olds have the health of a 50 yr old wether its because they see sport as torture eating a lot of junk foodtrash or have other bad habits smoking other drugsSo no one should be surprised that many young people end up in the ICU|0 You mad brah|0 Yea thats true As a young healthy person for my own welfare I am only as concerned about getting bed ridden by this for a week or two Then also the subsequent quarantine would be a pain in the ass Biggest concern is that I become an asymptomatic carrier then killing an older loved one because you didnt know|0 Agreed Lets hope this level of transparency is upheld|1 So what youre saying is its okay to risk the lives of 200 other people for your own comfort Got it|1 Roughly a companys reserves accumulated profits over the years are split into distributable and nondistributable A company can only pay dividends if it has sufficient reserves to do soSo if a company makes 10m 20m and 50m profits in its first three years it has 80m in reserves from which to pay dividendsBut say some of those profits are nondistributable say that 20m of that third year profit was from revaluing property to a higher value rather than trading profits You cant pay that profit out as dividends so the company would only have 60m reserves from which to pay dividendsI suspect that a any state aid income from this will be accounted as nondistributable and b the payment of any dividends will make companies ineligible to receive it or require them to repay it if after the fact Its a very sensible restriction|1 I wish I lived in a high trust society|1 Exactly this and these fucking idiots will never learn Even when their precious fucking data is staring them right in the nose|1 And put everyone else in danger because the mayor is too lazy to figure out a better plan|0 I feel a little angry when it was a lot of masks officials were saying they wont help Now WHO says they help if we have contact with someone infected or we are infected But now its impossible to buy in time when we really have contact with possible cases or when we feel unwell And Im not saying to wear a mask and meet with friends but even go to the pharmacy or go out of the room when we share apartments with others|0 Sorry obviously when I say all I mean everyone that doesnt need to be part of the critical infrastructure|0 Thats not true for most viruses Once herd immunity develops it becomes very unlikely for additional people to catch it and the rate of transmission becomes extremely slow|0 Its called a furlough Not uncommon in some cyclical industriesIts like a layoff but you get to keep your job|1 Im probably a bit late to this but from living there what do you estimate the numbers of infected and dead to be compared to what the Chinese is government is currently saying And also is there enough resources such as medical personal and medical equipment and supplies as well as food to go around|0 PA here Is this true|1 Ummm should I take two cross country flights with my elderly grandfather in order to see a concert with thousands and thousands of people in an area with plenty of casesI was referring to that point No one is saying that less a few morons I wish you well during this time if youre susceptible|1 Youre correct my terminology was wrong but I suppose the point is similar|0 The shills and useful idiots living in denial are in full force Anyone whos been following this has seen those videos and seen social media posts from people inside hubei province before chinas severe web crackdowns and increased surveillance of social media We knows its happeningcHiNa wOuLd NeVeR dO sOmEtHiNg lIkE tHaTtHeY jUsT wElDiNg tHe bAcKdoOrS Riiight All these idiots denying it are hilarioushttpsyoutubeNTH5Qzr8aGk|0 The manufacturing sector is dominated and will be even more dominated in the future by robotization the manufacturing jobs are never going to come back Well unless the virus gets so bad we go down to preindustrial era but id rather now|0 Weve already emailed the school to say were voluntarily isolating I was honest because I truly didnt think theyll be issuing fines at this time Is this a fixed policy or is it down to the Head|1 As of an hour ago California just closed all bars pubs and wineries Ohio and another state preceded them Other states will likely follow thankfullyWe will likely need a stimulus package to the masses to offset the lost wagesEDIT The governor of California suggested bars and the like to close Not mandated closures|1 Agreed Central KY here and most of us are really trying our best to lock it down|1 This isnt how diseases work dude Might as blame ancient Egyptians for smallpox This shit just happens Its part of the human condition|0 I think you should not concentrate on the gloomiest predictionsThat statement right there displays a big part of the problem People are not grasping the severity of this and that is why I said what I said and only posted the gloomiest predictions Those predictions are going to become a reality with the amount of people that are laughing this off I watched a 2 videos on the coronavirus challenge In those videos there was a girl who liked a toilet seat and another who opened a door handle with her mouth Im trying to get the people that think this is a laughing matter to see the reality of it|1 Maybe theyll change the definition of dead to pining for the fjords|0 Something tells me it will be exceedingly easy to find lawyers wanting to take on coronavirusrelated wrongful terminations Not only that but it will be hard to replace works during this as well|1 The problem is that the test kits have limited suppliesWe can test a few thousands a day all over Germany but what if you have to lock down another cluster and suddenly you run out of materialWith supply chains being what they are right now you need to make decisions based on statistics to make sure youre still able to act in three weeks|1 Yeahhhfuck that guy Not literally thats Grimes job Hes just pretty terrible|1 Its not a sin to be more efficient|1 Greatest generation and Silent generation are my grandparents|1 If you dig into the reference paper however you see a 20 decrease in total death rate depending on how early cities started interventions with better results the earlier they didThis isnt the whole story The Spanish flu came in three wavesWave 1 Started Spring of 18 in probably Kansas Spread to Europe with soldiers fighting in WWI and spread rapidly there This strain was extremely contagious but was not more lethal than a normal flu This died down in the summer following the normal flu cycleWave 2 The virus from wave 1 had mutated It was still extremely contagious but now also very lethal and unusually so to healthy adults This spread around the world in the fall of 18 and caused the massive causalities we associate with the Spanish flu This for unclear reasons died down over the winter of 18Wave 3 This is a bit less clear but it looks like the virus mutated again and was less deadly It spread late winter 18 to early spring 19 causing a significant number of deaths but not as bad as wave 2 Getting infected in any wave made you immune to subsequent waves So delaying from Wave 2 to Wave 3 would have significantly reduced your overall mortality because it was a less deadly strain and had nothing to do with medical care Remember this was the dawn of modern medicine before antibiotics ventilators or anything to help a flu patient There was nothing they could do and medical care had essentially 0 impact on the lethality of the flu Flattening the curve didnt help at all The reduction in deaths from early infection control was more or less luck They didnt know that the virus would become less deadly|0 Because their is a high chance this bug is a biowar agent in beta that escaped the lab due to incompetence and general corruption of the working class in china probably sold test animal carcasses to the wet market This would not be the first time animal test subject got sold to wetmarkets to make side money We dont have proof of this but this bug checks off too many boxes on the ingredients list of a biowar agent to not be suspicious So I am sure it is being examined Even if this is the case its most likely to be accidental unintentional and lets be honest we and the ruskies work on similar things in our labs under the goal of trying to be ready in case something bad this way comes If this is the case I hope world leaders keep a clear head and dont start a nuclear war on top of this bullshit|1 Help me understand why you support these Billionaires like Bill and Elon who Dont keep there word and whos foundations are always under investigation Why do you want the uber rich to rule you If you look into his foundation not every country thinks hes such a hero httpswwwglobaljusticeorgukresourcesgateddevelopmentgatesfoundationalwaysforcegood|1 Thats what people said he was not in the death count probably ER doctors said if using ECMO theres a chance but you never know|1 Europe is turning into a war zone|0 Getting upvoted you sayhttpsiimgurcom1vwYE83jpg Anywho you could have just said likely or probably created in a lab We dont know for sure that it was and easily could be a naturally occurring virus as well this shit happens No need to state a theory as fact|0 It definitely is A large part of our income comes from bartending and our city just shut all the bars and restaurants until further notice plus his dad was in the hospital all weekend Unfortunately he probably feels like his wife is being crazy and it feels like the last straw|1 Im not sure enough people know about this The 100 million in type B bonds for sure gets used up There is another 300 million in type A bonds that might get used Millionaires and banks might lose their gambling money if WHO says pandemic couldnt let that happen|0 Penguin 1 Dave Dave Im beginning to wonder if if we are all part of some sick joke All these animals all contained within these pods put on display Never able to leave trapped for all eternity Penguin 2 The horror the horrorPenguin 1 Are we are we trapped|0 I really fucking hope this will be the case with the majority of the cases|1 This has now changed The CDC no longer will be saying no If a doctor wants a patient tested they will get tested Yes is a bunch of junk that they were not testing everyone|0 The Midwest seems to have been relatively unscathed from all this Its really the coastal states that seem to have the biggest problems Higher population density healthcare that is more heavily taxed by high homeless populations more business being done flying intoout of the cities etc|0 Honestly though what good will this do in the long run Sure its great that were acknowledging that the coronavirus is actually a serious issue over here in the states finally but people will still go about their daily lives and continue to spread the disease Trump could make a speech right now saying that we all need to self quarantine and the entire US is in a state of emergency and so on but what would that really fix Our whole system is flawed|1 A big thing is to go along with the shut down approach in your community so that the infection rate drops dramatically to let us go back to normal as soon as possible Some people like health care workers will be doing heroic work and we need to support them We do need to stay calm even though this is an unprecedented situation|1 There are only so many respirators and when they are all used up people die fatality rate spiking to 1520 for otherwise curable cases More people get infected in exponentially growing numbers but respirators stay the samethis is it right here nobody should be comparing this to the flu the flu isnt doing that|0 All data seen and commented on is the tip of an iceberg It is the burden of disease that is key and before we can really see and understand what is going on we need to better understand the burden upon the population This is the real prevalence We have hints things like the conspicuous lack of children being reported and the 80 of KNOWN CONFIRMED REPORTED cases in China with mild disease but we are still trying to understand this When I first read that Chinese CDC descriptive epi I actually breathed a sigh of relief particularly since I am fully aware that that slice of an epidemicpandemic is NOT the burden upon the population as a whole To better understand what I am talking about read this from CDC on flu I am NOT saying this is flu but the read will give you a better feel for how large scale organism caused events impact a population Scale up the data for Covid 19 but I do not know to what degree httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtml|1 Thats if the virus doesnt kill off s bunch of consumers first|1 The school district just north of ours sent out FID flexible instructions days packets in case their district has to shut down A mom from that district went to the local county Facebook and complained about it citing that yet these districts allow unvaccinated kids in and what about the flu citing shes a healthcare professional so she knows shes not shes in premed at the local shitty ass college what shes talking about Then when told to think about the grandparents of the students and faculty and staff that are older she said it doesnt matter if people die its the way of life|0 Stoney Creeker here Hopefully this doesnt hit us over here|1 Almost all news sources i have seen Western countries are more concerned about the economy us worker ants must continue to make money for these corrupt governments its ok low risk blah blah Fuck the economy already and start with ubi|0 Then donated heaps of tax payers money to his churchwait I missed this one when did this happen|0 Nonsense he is correct only with serious symptoms you will get tested in Europe Celebs apparently get a special pass|0 WE WILL NOT VANISH WITHOUT A FIGHT|0 fortunately I dont use a gym or need to be around other people for my preferred forms of physical activity In fact the less people the better|1 Yeah thats kinda the point Im making To many people it doesnt matter if the person is Japanese any of the various Chinese ethnicities Mongolian or any of the many South East Asian ethnicities|1 I found numerous faults with the article and what people are saying it says1 Chinese doctors say is in the title The article then states One of the doctors reached out to a relative living in the United Kingdom who then informed Taiwan NewsSo this article isnt based on something a doctor said at all Its based on what someone ONE person who isnt a doctor said to the paperYou can probably safely throw this article into the trash It MIGHT be right but we would need much more information to verify it If we want to assume this is the case there are still more problems with the rumors that people are spreading and it is rather disgusting but lets assume that this is the case Onward to the rest of the article2 A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue and when they get it a second time the antibody doesnt help but makes it worse and they die a sudden death from heart failureIts not just catching it a second time IF the source the person who told them what a doctor told THEM can be believed but rather a combination of earlier drugs that weaken the heart and the infection I am not saying that a cytokine storm isnt possible but that wasnt described in the article3 The source also said the virus has outsmarted all of us as it can hide symptoms for up to 24 days I have heard incubation periods of anywhere from 1 day to a month I have heard the 24 days was disproven or an outlier and other places have said they verified it At this point I dont know what to believe any longer for the incubation period|0 ran away with the masks lmao|1 Such good news Even though Im stuck in this paranoia hell in Phoenix The rest of my family is in Texas my SIL runs and works at an urgent care and they just got company notice they will not allow entrance to anyone that believes to have been exposed to the virus Theyre just outside of Austin|0 Why is there a fat man stretching his hands Am I missing something|0 Exactly What is it that people dont get about this virus I guess most are brainwashed into thinking its some bad flu strain that magic will cure itAre they ready to say goodbye to their grandparents Their sick or ill parents Or their familyfriends who are immunocompromised from any number of cancers or immune disorders Because thats what going to happenSay goodbye to the elderlysick in your life now They may not make it past April or May|0 As a Polish man who immigrated to America Fucking thank you This isnt just the states|1 Im already calling it the Boomer Flu in casual conversation|0 Not going back for at least a week Maybe longer Canned veggies or potential death Not even close|0 Of course I dont want people to get stuck seeking FDA approval when other countries dont use the FDA|1 Man those people make America look so bad On some post a couple days ago a European was talking about this and saying how america isnt the center of everything and all these other countries like italy arent just doing this because of american politicsI just dont understand what is going on in the brain of someone who actually thinks the whole world is faking a pandemic because of trump|0 He bought all the supplies before the state of emergency was declared and was apparently suspended from selling before the declaration as well Theyre definitely going to find something that can stick to him though They will definitely make an example out of him to discourage this from happening again|0 Go back to Qanon bullshit|0 Yes grocery chains local convenience shops and pharmacies are still open The usual employees are working there but mandated to be wearing at least mask glove In my hometown when youre in line grocery shopping you also have to queue at least 1 meter apart There is also delivery service mail service etc But again those workers are at least wearing masks gloves if not eye googles Those who can work from home do my cousin whos a public school teacher actually teaches her entire class of 30 kids via Skype now as all public schools are closed I have another cousin still going to work but she doesnt eat lunch out anymore and they work with masks on at all times|1 If Im at a 95 chance of death and this antiviral has a 1 chance of saving my life Im taking those oddsthis is idiot math from an idiot just sayingPs im not the downvoter dawg|0 They probably didnt really want you to come anyway|0 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 This seems deeply flawed I would help the elderly people in my community but I will not be able to as will not know if Im infected assuming I follow government advice Someone on nextdoor was offering to help out people in the community after taking kids to school what could possibly go wrong Yes they have said they may bring other measures but will probably to late The skit from Yes Minster perfectly sums up how this could go hope Im wrong|1 I cant imagine expecting your first baby and just casually having fewno supplies Who does that Most new parents get a stock in under normal circumstances so they dont have the stress of running out at 3am while bathed in shit and misery Maybe they are super broke Or shes anxious and kinda got her head in the sand Not committed to a brandMy brother and his gf are expecting fairly soon and my brother is going a bit nuts but I cant say I blame him Hes not stupid and will have gotten useful things at least The panic buying here in the UK has gotten so bad now you kind of have to participate somewhat or go without Im on my last pack nappies myself|0 Eating fast food is a big gamble right now you do not know if the employees have been exposed|0 Iran has no infrastructure People are simply not receiving any care and their medical staff is falling left and right|0 And based on reading the article this guy likely commuted on MetroNorth into Grand Central Potentially thousands of people have been exposed Im not trying to calamitize the situation so perhaps people who were not in close proximity to this man or not in the same train car as him are not at risk|1 in two other recent threads there was mention of a need for more body bags they had run out of them in wuhan and about the capacity of crematoriums to process bodies Theres probably some extra crematorium capacity available but that is where id expect to see problems if the mortality rate is higher than reported or the number infected is higher than reported in a population of 50 million youd expect to see about 7 out of 100000 die each year or roughly 35000 from various normal causes a death rate of 1 per annum half the official death rate reported on top of that would mean 500000 more dead which would completely swamp the existing body disposal system thats where youd expect to see excavators digging mass graves as long as the government continues to function lets hope it doesnt get there|0 Youre not wrong the Spanish Flu in 19181919 affected children under 5 more harshly|0 The whole confused about which toilet to use meme is pretty much a relic of 20162017 and is only giving attention in right wing circles to make the left look worse than it is|1 Maybe those drivers have more power than they think Sounds like a great case for unification|1 Those are exactly my symptoms I would teleconference with a doc If thats not an option check your local hospitals protocol on what to doMy local hospital is urging locals to call so that they can anticipate the number of sick and also have you in records in the even that youd have to come in if it were to worsen PM me if anything I was freaking out at first and its not a thing thats fun to go through alone|0 i feel we will never see these kinda numbers Maybe in Large Metro areas since there are so many ppl in such a small space I think the less ppl traffic the better|1 Stay safe|1 I dont know I eloped and still managed to have a pretty fairytaleesque wedding Just because its an intimate ceremony doesnt mean it has to be any less magical Youve just got to find the right place As long as she gets to wear her beautiful and probably expensive dress and there is a photographer present she might be happyGood luck with everything though|1 yes but this is contagious like hell more than flu|0 Fuck the WHO The director general Tedros isnt even a doctor|0 Those CEO bonuses dont pay themselves you know|1 Oh for fucks sakeMaybe he should have been wearing one at CPAC then|0 Iran is probably worse US is getting there|0 But you forgot the important part orange man bad|0 Normalcy bias and arrogance go a long way|0 She said shes been there a bunch of times and has a bunch of friends who live there|1 SUPPRESSED COVID FOOTAGE 221 through 228 listed chronologically backwardscompiled 228six submissions of eyewitness footage in quarantined China1captioned This lady was well fed Emergency medical backup had to be called in to hasten the diagnosis and help with the important task of throwing the patient in the back of a vanhttpstwittercomphdparodystatus1233141762262282255s212 guy coughs up blood in a Hubei Province hospitalhttpstwittercommgoqkzlbrplchynstatus1233237483816546305s213 captioned City guard hold the line against the armyhttpstwittercomphdparodystatus1233148369272528898s214 JOURNALIST SUPPRESSIONTranslated caption Late in the night several policemen broke into the girls room illegally and forcibly took away the womanhttpstwittercomjenniferatntdstatus1232920636487610369s215FACTORY WORKERS FORCED BACK TO WORK captioned A crowd gathers near a factory to watch nothing happen as the police drag away no one Go Wuhanhttpstwittercomphdparodystatus1233150433486626816s216 DIGITAL SUPERHERO COVID JOURNALISM httpstwittercomphdparodystatus1233149598547546113s21 the TRUTH IS HAS and CONTINUES to COME OUT 22520my newest nonduplicate list of several covid links which are primarily eyewitness footageeyewitness footage is extremely valuable because rarely is there an overtly controlled narrativecovid is relevant to everyone for a variety of sociopolitical socioanthropological economic and political implications1 newly homeless residents of Wuhan protest the demolishment of their homeshttpstwittercomjenniferatntdstatus1232344933614473216s212 original source translation Urban management officers in Wuhan intercepting donated vegetables from Sichuang province What a shame Click here for more bitly2uBfJPrhttpstwittercomjenniferatntdstatus1232340789046521861s213 original sources translationBreaking news many patients in Wuhan were burned and wrapped in corpses Before a netizen in Wuhan cried and complained that his sick father was hospitalized and the hospital put it in a corpse regardless of his fathers life On the 24th there was a motherinlaw who was just discharged from Wuhan She had witnessed the horror experience in the hospital Many patients who were alive were wrapped in fourlayer corpses and dragged directly to the crematorium for burninghttpstwittercomtk40245489status1232181921787994113s214 Original sources translationWuchang City Management has already rumored that the transportation capacity is insufficient and it needs urban management to transport to every community Why didnt you make it clear at the beginning When you dismiss the rumor it shows that this thing is realhttpstwittercommgoqkzlbrplchynstatus1232249300257652736s21RECENT Vice publication explaining Big Tech censorshiphttpswwwvicecomampenusarticle8xmg3ztechcompaniestransparencyeffortsmaybeinadvertentlycausingmorecensorshipfood shortages and bizarre ecological occurrences within covid epicenters in China1httpsyoutube7dDv8JiYQpwABOVE produce destroyed before distribution there have been speculations that the crops around covid epicenters are dangerously contaminated2httpsyoutubeUM5masgQO4ABOVE more produce destruction before reaching the starving people of Wuhan Contamination unsavory ccp agenda im not sure why this is happening3httpstwittercommgoqkzlbrplchynstatus1231049652197216257s21ABOVE more food meant for citizens of Wuhan gone to waste perhaps no concrete distribution procedures in a time of such crisis again i really just dont know4httpstwittercomischinarstatus1230653674155921408s21ABOVE mass abnormal fish behavior near Wuhan still no idea contamination 5httpstwittercomischinarstatus1231422785106382849s21ABOVE all the fish died what is this about22320eyewitness footage 3 links not previously posted by me descriptions BELOW the linksthank you httpsmediadiscordappnetattachments672275666619596840672688934450626565getfvid847622597910404546410611960694373540691968nmp41 ABOVE man collapsed on public stairs on the street in Hubei Province httpsmediadiscordappnetattachments672275666619596840672688214242492446WuhanCoronavirus2019nCoVhas8735membersTrackingthelatestnewsand2620105741435357mp42 ABOVE lady collapsed from covid on sidewalk in Hubei Province httpsyoutube03k7F3ygNAQ3 ABOVE eyewitness footage clips of collapsed covid victims in Hubei Province2211 vid 1 doctors collapsing whilst treating patients2 vid 2 dissent into general disorder and police brutality 3 vid 3 food sent to Wuhan cannot penetrate the barricades produce becomes wasted4 vid 4 In Xiaogan Hubei the villagers were reluctant to be sealed up at home and they fought back The police fired shotshttpstwittercomischinarstatus1229550041335058432s21httpstwittercomfangshiminstatus1228939269609181186s21httpstwittercomischinarstatus1229658381331390464s21httpstwittercomischinarstatus1229440164998656003s2|0 Local governments are stepping up Ohios at least Teachers are preparing take home packets for school closures many many activities have been cancelled by local officials ect If we wait for the federal government it will be too late|0 Im not arguing with you in fact Im fully in agreement but for some stupid reason the universe doesnt let logic prevail in these situations more often than not|0 The provincial government has no jurisdiction over the measures that make the biggest differences Mass testing travel restrictions movement restrictions etc It can do some things but this is a situation where really only the feds can act Provinces are not allowed for example to stop travel from other provinces What they can do is cancel some events but even then its unclear what authority they have to stop private actors from holding events they are entitled and legally allowed to hold Federal laws guaranteeing freedom of movement prevents the provinces from really doing what is necessary but the feds can make the call to suspend those in urgent situations like this|1 Holy shit there is no end to seeing the flaws of our system|0 Lol there might even be a movie about this in a few yearsAlso this httpsmyoutubecomwatchvkGqIkeJCzAM|1 And come to think only a month ago people on this sub were seriously asking if any nonAsians had died from Corona|0 Im pretty sure when swine flu came in 2009 the Australian govt at the time ordered 20mllion doses of the vaccine I dont think they were charging people either|1 KublerRoss model can apply to news about the virus too Theyre in stage 1 denial Its the brains defence mechanism against panic In this case this instinctive shortcircuit works against usI can only hope your coworkers dont get angry at you for being visibly cautious|1 Best of luck We are all in this mess together I guess For lack of a better way to put it I feel a great disturbance in the force It feels like the whole damn world is like the rebel alliance from Star Wars and we need an ObiWan Kenobi to emerge out of nowhere to save us pronto|1 all of the young people buying up cheap flights to travel the world because the lethal rate is too low for them to care|1 Yeah I thought about that but sometimes you just gotta say what the fuck and go for it Joel Goodsen Risky Business|0 It is because you dont own 1 mask you fucking went and bought the whole batch in advance to profit off the panic of the people when the virus spread Sure it is insightful but morally unacceptable|0 Im not protecting Trump He did one thing right The CDC are complete idiots One JobTheyre deliberately not testing in this country For some reason I can find other uses for the 3 grand they were charging per useless testWe have no leadership South Korea is testing tens of thousands per dayAnd not charging their citizens for it|0 Sure itll clean you out but itll leave you hollow inside|1 This is one of the big problems I see with closing schools and completely valid I have no idea what a solution to this could be but perhaps people smarter than me do|1 Maybe is your govt then one thats lying|0 Well said by the Governor We gotta first help the people we do not like we disagree with and get through this When we have not even seen the amount of pain and sorrow that other Countries have the blame process will be a long one The future will be better because of what we are dealing with Some of us wont make it but the time is now to band together with distance and help each other not just Americans but the World|1 Seems like this is quickly becoming another Fukushima level crisis mismanagment event|0 if youre in WA you qualify for 12 weeks of paid leave for maternity|0 This is a woman in her 50s from the Grand Princess cruise and shes recovering at home in Calgary She came back on Feb 21 self isolated on Feb 28 and a test for Coronavirus came back positive today There will be testing done at the national lab but that will take a few days so the Province announced it today out of an abundance of caution while its still considered presumptive Anyone who comes back from that cruise ship should selfisolate for two weeks even if theyre feeling well|1 I remember in primary school someone came in with some sort of light that showed bacteria on your hands and we all had to go to the bathroom wash our hands best we could and check them under the light again then learned how to be thorough in washing them|1 It cannot be stated enough times that the official count is not an accurate total number of either infected persons or deaths due to COVID When trying to understand the reach and magnitude of this disease remember that for every confirmed case there are many more ill or dead people either in their homes or more rural areas who are not being included in these numbers While these official numbers by the CCP and WHO are helpful and have met the criteria for scientific evidence it is not the full picture as it is happeningEdit removed unsubstantiated anecdotal comment about spread of this disease I agree this is a scientific forum and should maintain high standards of evidence|0 The Bay Area is on lockdown so good luck to the cousin if they were coming up North|1 If they dont give a fuck why should we |1 No they dont|0 WowChinas bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic In the face of a previously unknown virus China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history Chinas uncompromising and rigorous use of nonpharmaceutical measures to contain transmission of the COVID19 virus in multiple settings provides vital lessons for the global responseJesus Christ just swipe right already|1 This is why Israel survived world war z|0 Thanks that sounds logical|1 Because when officials act promptly to stop something by taking extreme measures and it works they get criticized for taking overly draconian measures when the outcome wasnt so bad despite the reason why the outcome wasnt so bad was because they took the measures This happens in all emergency operations from hurricane and wildfire evacuations to volcanoes and terrorist attacks|0 poor testingIf only we had it that good in the US|0 Exactly Places like Singapore and Taiwan learned very quickly I read a post a few days ago where there was a suspected case in Singapore and a Singaporean healthcare professional came in to inform us that the Singaporean government learned quite a lot from the 2003 SARS scare and developed strict measures in place for stuff like this Sure its easier to contain something like this in a smaller citystatecountry but Singapore is also densely packed All it takes is one person to slip through and itd spread very quicklyIm just hoping if this gets to other countries theyll be as prepared as the CDC is here in the US|1 Exactly The cruise ship is not going to tell us the truth about the virus It is going to tell us about the virus in very specific conditions that are not at all like the real world These people have been sharing cutlery drinks beds toilets in a confined space for days and days Of course it is going to spread and behave in a different way than elsewhere We will learn something about the virus but anyone implying that this proves they are lying is being dishonest|0 Wait you guys are saying the water drops are sperm right Or like cooch juice What did I put One time I kept asking my little sister to Netflix Chill for weeks before I knew it meant sexy times I think this is like that time|1 Im commenting on the OP and why its a problem not the fact of whether or not its occurring The first line Price Gouging Prevention is leftist BS and im not OK with it That there is a law is bad enough why are they investigating What do they hope to achieve by it Even the threat of action could cause distortionsEdit feel free to comment on the points i actually made not ones I didnt|0 This article is making my stomach turn This is the most unethical thing Ive ever heard|0 Nice I taught my daughter chess over the weekend Shes going to become a chess master over the lockdownRandom thought I wonder if this generation of kids are going to grow up to be absolute germaphobes|1 How are you feeling right now|1 At what point so you stop seeing personal gain for once and start seeing the global consequence were all facing|1 Yes he absolutely can Ive had pneumonia in the past you can easily see white spots of infection all over the lungs on the xray|1 I was under the impression that they had been locked in by the government from outside their apartments I could be completely wrong though|0 Wow thats a beautiful but terrible story Millions of people are going through this and theres nothing any of us can do about itWhat a catastrophe I feel so bad for these people And all the way on the other side of the world I feel worried for my loved ones too This novel coronavirus has been found in every state where I have family I am afraid China has let this go on for far too long before the quarantine if millions of possibly infected people could fly to other destinations all over the world before the quarantine took effect how is it a quarantine at all I think this will get much worse for all of us before it gets any betterTake care of yourselves|0 Dunno WTF this has to do with Hong Kong though no lockdowns in Hong Kong that shits happening across the border in China Maybe its a capacity issue for HongKong due to reduced flights|0 Good question how to get serious|1 Or do it in another country and it costs you a handshake and a Thanks guys You saved my life|1 Interesting They announced in the past couple of days that final year medical students will be allowed to practiceIt does seem that this is the real thing We are in a pandemic|1 Closing borders whilst maintaining a food and essentially products supply chain etc is actually really hard Probably close to impossibleThis was always going global|0 you go girl one day he will thank you|1 Good to know because my mom has asthma|1 Is there no evidence in general that it can spread without symptoms|0 Where do people come up with this crap|0 Nah thank you for making me aware of this I already knew about stuff like SETIHome but I had no idea it existed for Corona|0 Solid feedback my cursor understanding is yes and this post is just to explore that concept further A thought experiment if you will|1 Sorry if I came off as rude My bad for misinterpreting But yes it was livestreamed on Facebook for a good hour Pretty messed up Was really worried for my Thai friends|1 My SO told me that Thailand just got fuxked hard by a lying patient who just caused a shit load of panic and closed a lot of areas due how quickly the virus is spreading|0 I used to live in America I know how it sucks I am an independent contractor now in Canada and I may have to take an extended unpaid leave for a while I have the savings to get through that but I am so glad I have a health card in my wallet which isnt going to expire with my job|1 Theres also VG Vegetable Glycerin Im gonna have to do some digging on this now I find this quite intriguing as a daily vaperEditTo add edit note Edit Ok did some digging Found this onePG added to tobacco and given to rats for inhalationhttpsjuniperpublisherscomgjppspdfGJPPSMSID555584pdf This one said that when given amount of PG added to tobacco and given to rats reduced some histopathological lesions in rats Its one of the last paragraphs in the paper It sounds like it was by some other action than the antiviralantibacterial properties of PG from how I understood it Then theres this oneEcig exposure in mice results in increased bacterial burdenhttpsjournalsplosorgplosonearticleid101371journalpone0116861 When compared to air only exposed mice Ecig exposure resulted in significant increases in pulmonary bacterial burden measured in either bronchoalveolar lavage fluid or lung homogenates Ecig exposure impairs viral clearance and causes significant morbidity and mortality in mice following influenza virus infectionThis is all done on mice and rats so im not sure how closely this research would relate to humans Either way pretty interesting read I was hoping to find out that Ive been fighting off bacteria and viruses by vaping daily Doesnt sound like thats the case One more reason to quit|1 Can you give me sourcing for this Id like to have it for a discussion elsewhere Im part of|1 Every single day is a new train wreck How can you NOT see it Oktake today Kelly ann conway in the white house lawn says the virus is contained Well no its not actually Then dr fauci head of the NHS saystodaythat mass quarentines in the US are possible So what is it contained or running wild Look at the graphs from alllll over the world and the US too Is it going up and up and up Yesexponentially so is it contained when we have only tested 6 ppl out of every 100000 Who the fuck knows truly bc we dont even have test kits availableover 2 months after the whole world knew it was really looking like it was spreading all over pandemic level nowe still dont have test kits Thats trump More The CDC yesterday said there are so many cases in WA that they dont need to test anymore bc its endemic Meaning widespreadrught wheh t4umps message is that its contained not to worry Go to work so look you are in fact an idiot if you cant just read digest new information and make logical conclusions There are all sorts of inaccurate statements coming from trump How about the hannity show wednesday where he told all the viewers ppl are going to work and feeling better His message to fellow idiots who still listen to him isif you have this highly infectious disease go to work Itll be FINE How mmany more ppl will be infected bc of this horrific advice And yet did he go visit the CDC when there was a threat of the virus being there answer NOOO Of course not Its HIGHLY contagious after all Or from a week ago it will go awaylike a miracle or ignoring the CDCs advice to tell older folk not to get on a planebecause why Well he had an uncle who taught at some university so its some sort of innate ability he has Sciencethru osmosis Look its soo stupid I cant even begin to comment on it can YOU understand him when he speaks idiot If you can its probably your second language as well just my opinion After trump fired the ENTIRE pandemic response team in 2018 the lead guy Klein has been trying to warn us that we are at risk for just this sort of coronavirus to become unchecked and kill thousandshundreds of thou or even millions Here it is read it do you dare httpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponseThere are no adults at the helm of this ship Thousands of ppl will die now and yes idiots like you who voted for the goon have blood on your hands Now go washget outta here|0 If the stores are running out of toilet paper seems like the worst time to be eating Taco Bell|0 Well the big problem with China is that they lied about the stats and what was actually happening thereChina is a country that is basically conducting a cultural holocaust right now of the Uyghurs so its not surprising that they lie about how bad the virus isThose fake stats were relied upon by naive public health people in other countries which caused them to not worry enough about itAt least Italy is telling the truth about what is happening in Italy|0 But Im mostly thinking effective treatments|1 Yeah I think your arrogance is readily obvious and a widespread perspective on this sub|0 As many as 14 Just a casual half a month of deadly incubation and potential patricide|1 He was so much better today on script and its clear the team behind him is really coming together and getting shit done His tone was completely different If this change alters the habits of any of the MAGA crowd it will save countless livesIt was a remarkable performance a huge turnaround Something must have happened since last night I suspect Fauci finally got through to him Can we draft Fauci as a writein Pres candidate|1 I never said there was a sourceThe comment was about the comments all over Reddit of people trying to down play the seriousness of this disease|1 well ok except theres more genetic variation within Africa than outside of it so having black or African ancestry as a race is not a very highperformance proxy|1 Im not looking to a vaccine because that will be months and months away Im not even looking to an antiviral drug one could be pulled out of what weve already got but I think we have to govern ourselves in our social actions how we interact with people I think that is extremely important more so than wearing a mask I think that is a total diversion wearing a mask but what we need to do is less of the handshaking hugging kissing and all that sort of thing because it looks as though this virus is spread through tidal breathing ordinary tidal breathing not necessarily colds coughs sneezingJohn Oxford professor of Virology at Queen Mary University of London|1 Overall that amounts to a 25 reduction in greenhouse gas emission rates during the outbreak time period so far Its a pretty considerable amount|1 guess its time to restrict entry from south korea then ggpretty ironic since before that a lot of south koreans were calling for the govt to ban person from china from entering LOL|0 Im not sure I understand what youre talking about|0 You mean they havent bothered to trace your contacts at all Did they offer to test your family or anyone else youve been in super direct contact with|1 The fact they are hiding shit makes me more afraid|0 Unfortunately I am not in charge of testing at my organization and this is what they keep telling me More specifically it looks like it is up to our local countys health department which is limiting testing based on the CDC requirements So please know that local municipalities are limiting testing NOT facilities It is not from an unwillingness to testAlso I am not one of the nurses who takes the test My job is mainly receptionist and records type duties so I have absolutely no say over who gets tested and even if the doctors and nurses agree with me they would literally have to disobey direct orders from our company administrators who are keeping a close eye on all potential cases honestly I dont know the full consequences of disobeying and I agree that we should be testing but our local governments are putting up a ton of red tape to that I am looking into ways to discourage this but I dont have a ton of power myself And we use Quest Diagnostics where I work too Its not a state lab its all testing|0 None of what you said gives evidence to the dispute my postI wasnt aware of the first articles bias Ill remove the link and keep the one from foreignpolicy that I quotedThere are plenty of other examples of speculation on the trustworthiness of Chinas reported figures investorscom New Study Shines Light Literally On Chinas And Russias Fake GDP Datahttpswwwinvestorscompoliticseditorialsnewstudyshineslightliterallyonchinasandrussiasfakegdpdata datadriveninvestorcom Four Reasons Why You Shouldnt Trust Chinas GDP Datahttpswwwdatadriveninvestorcom20190922fourreasonswhyyoushouldnttrustchinasgdpdata Financial Times Chinas economy is 12 smaller than official data say study findshttpswwwftcomcontent961b4b323fce11e9b896fe36ec32aece continentaltelegraphcom We Know Chinas Been Lying About GDP But How Muchhttpswwwcontinentaltelegraphcomasiaweknowchinasbeenlyingaboutgdpbuthowmuch nationalinterestorg Chinas Economy Not So Big After Allhttpsnationalinterestorgfeaturechinaseconomynotsobigafterall46887Here is my Google searchhttpswwwgooglecomsearchqchinalyingaboutgdprlz1C1CHBFenCA847CA847oqchinalyingaboutgdpaqschrome69i57j04783j0j4sourceidchromeieUTF8 it looks like there are plenty more too|0 Too much sediment can be seen as a pollutant The official term is TSS Total Suspended Solids which can be detrimental to aquatic animals and the photosynthesis process|0 Not OPBut closing schools means the parents have to go home too meaning essential jobs are not active anymore Essentially if schools get shutdown we need to take measures to make sure people with non essential jobs can have finincial security to be home And people with essential jobs need to figure out arrangements with what to do with the kids You are correct that it will spread way faster Just look at the 1918 graph thats been circulating which shows deaths in a city that closed and one that didnt close its schools Governments arent willing to take on the economic burden right now to deal with this Its pretty criminal the US and other countries arent in a full lockdown right now|0 The problem with your theory it looks like this virus is like HIV or herpes in that it doesnt leave your system when you get better It becomes dormant and then gets reactivated later when youre under stress or too tired etc And like other such viruses you will have asymptomatic shedding in between outbreaks Getting it early wont confer immunity It just means youre starting the slow damage to your organs earlier|0 Were not saying 100 decreaseThe news outlets I see dont accept anything but 0 or 100 The longer we can delay this by taking measures such as distancing quarantining working from home and cancelling events the better|0 Also true for Washington Used to be known for their bullets but now are named for their prolific wizarding community|1 Its sad to see the parade canceled but is the best step given the present situation Holi gatherings in Nepal and Womens day gathering in many countries have been canceled as well|1 You have way too many upvotes I seriously doubt that having chronic obstructive lung disease which is directly attributable to smoking would not be related to your risk of dying of this disease There are a lot of young people in their 30s and 40s who smoke frequently 1 pack per day that have structural damage to their lungs akin to COPD that hasnt hit the point of affecting their daily lives I would imagine that they are at somewhat high risk|0 What a good read thanks for sharing |1 In the UK there is a massive shortage of testing also The NHS cant cope therefore would rather tell people to stay at home and not get tested so the figures are low here In Scotland anyway|0 When you see this sort of thing whats happening is theyre also checking the CT pictures and they are seeing the telltale sign of water in lung So very high probability of nCoV given the current situation Thats why when CT strongly suggests nCoV they would keep the patient in hospital and test again and again If they actually release that patient because the first test is negative then it would be disastrous|0 Agree Ive had supplies for years but started buying necessities specific to this particular emergency months ago Im so glad I was on these subs educated myself and did so but Ill never feel prepared enough my anxiety is through the roof I cant imagine how Id feel without the things I have now|0 Source I am a doctor and have seen public health reject screening requests for patients not meeting travel case definition|0 Best containment in history of containments|1 They need to expediteenforce the crackdown on live animal markets ASAP This shit really should be preventable|0 theres been articles in China touting TCM as a cure alsothe directorgeneral is also getting tons of money for his home country Ethiopia|0 How would that be enforced though I agree that hoarding and up selling during times of crisis is bad but I dont see how the government could force people to not hoard|0 And his companies have no idea whats actually happening in their stores I got an email from Walmart that theyre going to be enhancing their cleaning and disinfecting efforts in the store I saw none of that when I was actually there|0 Im thinking like this These measures seem like a huge deal to me People seem to be begging for martial law or something|1 You are paranoid Wow|1 Awesome Thank you My wife said I have to wait until tomorrow though Im going to do a science experiment with the kids How thick should the mask be Can I make multiples out of a big enough blanket|1 How would a national lockdown work Would any access outside of your home even work be affectedI start a new job Monday no word on any changes regarding coming in yet so I am getting worried about how all of this will play out|0 China lied made up numbers and silenced people trying to spread information Now theyve got this troll army covering the internet inciting massive panic and calling for unnecessary restriction on freedom Its a massive attempt to cripple the global economy This is the new way of war and China is doing it|0 Americas shitty healthcare system will make this so much worse|0 Its funny how a lot of people seem to make funny of the article but havent selfquarantined yet You fear bankruptcy more than death|0 Yes there was one small study done in the Netherlands in 2008 that suggested that using special tea cloth to make your own mask could help against some diseases However doctors and the CDC seem in agreement that any homemade masks will cause a HIGHER risk of COVID19 not lower Nothing youre going to make your mask out of has holes small enough to prevent COVID19 to get through its MUCH smaller than influenza and anything you make will instead hold COVID19 particles in front of your mouth for a longer period of time increasing your risk of infection|1 Well the news just keeps getting better s httpswwwscmpcomeconomychinaeconomyarticle3048784coronavirusleastthreecasesamong4000passengerschinahttpswwwscmpcomeconomychinaeconomyarticle3048784coronavirusleastthreecasesamong4000passengerschina|1 it has not been the norm because you have not been told the truth simple as that|1 I thought I was in rSacramento when I saw your username I am chilled to the bone that we had someone quarantined here and no one checked in|0 Did he or any of the other Republicans ever share their status Otherwise Im assuming they were positive|1 So whats that mean for the dumpster fire that is testing in the US|0 i was wanted to be flight attendant and m going to emirates and i hope to pass exams but i m just give up because the virus|1 How about March 15 Relax were doing great It all will pass Source The Guardianhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar15trumpcoronavirusrelaxweredoinggreatexpertworsttocomeAnd today March 16 the official response is no gatherings of 50 or more peoplehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar16americansurgedtoscrapgatheringsof50ormorepeopleasstatesstartshutdowns|1 Government of running affairs She is basically keeping the department running and acting when needed like she is doing right now We havent had a federal gov for more than a year last elections being held in May 19|1 Some people simply dont give a fuck it seems|1 For current homeowners it only sucks if they are upside down and need to sell Or those that are downgrading their homes For most everyone else losing value doesnt matter or is beneficialor those that took mortgages to buy current homes now they got to pay twice the house worth which means the loan is not covered whih means the bank could just take your house|0 A lien on a property is a terrible idea It significantly affects the owners credit score and there would be too much liability involved I would much rather take on the debt and try to keep passing it off with credit cards etcAs for the government paying the mortgage they dont pay when there is a shutdown The government shutdown last February proved that and I ended up missing a couple months|0 note to self pucks have a high risk of infection do not go to the puck where ever the puck is going thats where the virus isgot it|0 No But it sounds interesting However if the infected recover after a few days it probably isnt very interesting lol|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Sure it can be fun if you are well equipped to handle and decipher misinformation for yourself But the issue is that not everyone can do that so we must be mindful of that|1 This is probably the best article that sums up a lot of the facts in laymans terms ive read yet through this whole event|1 People dont go critical immediately they wait an average of 5 days before even seeing a hospital Just like the confirmed are catching up so are the criticalserious condition numbers|1 They just have to do the same thing they did for SARS and see that the virus causes ARDS in animals This is just additional evidence and doesnt prove a causative link in humans Plenty of things cause respiratory distress in animals and do not affect humans much or vice versaWe do not have a suitable animal model of COVID19 yet|0 Tons of people forget that the air quality in China is horrendous That cant help when battling a respiratory disease|0 I could have sworn that a Chinese company owns a good chunk of reddit If its not shills it just might be their influence|1 Ah ok so just one week then which seems normal Theyre probably keeping him protected |1 They didnt care about lives at all They tried to cover it up since December They only began getting serious in mid January to save face after their disaster|0 implications of lying and claiming youve been IANA lawyer but it must depend on the situation Telling the triage nurse must be different than signing a statement under the penalty of perjury|0 Nobody does win but the silver lining is we carry the survival gene of our ancestors who made it through plagues famines wars and disastersLets hope we pass it on to our kids|1 You will want new toothbrushes because if you get sick you definitely want to switch those out as you get better Even better I got a little sterilizer that uses UVC that I run mine through every day You also want lotion to take very good care of your skin especially your hands from all the extra washing|1 1 its dumb to do this2 its extra dumb to do this and allow your picture to be taken your face will forever be associated with this facial tech in the future yeah they are screwed|0 This article does a good job of explaining Overactive inflammatory cytokines play a role in chronic pain conditions including fibromyalgia lupus MS and more httpsthefamilythathealstogethercomhowtocalmcytokinestormhttpsthefamilythathealstogethercomhowtocalmcytokinestorm WebMD has an entry on autoimmune diseases httpswwwwebmdcomatozguidesautoimmunediseaseshttpswwwwebmdcomatozguidesautoimmunediseases|1 This is such a poor way to define the term that theyre using It means that as long as we have better information we can avoid ever having a pandemic simply by tracing the illness back to the origin regardless of how many people are being infected or where|0 Oh I have no doubt we will all be paying for this handsomely sooner than later He suspended interest on student loans for federal loans for the foreseeable future as well Think of it as a precursor to some of the future presidential candidates platforms We will likely end up all being taxed to cover the cost They cannot QE this one away|1 Yes look at thishttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021320022715v1fullpdfThe best temperature for the virus is between 1319 degrees|1 My mom mother in law and I all stocked up and got a little extra just in case So when people started coming more but it wasnt as bad as now I was able to stock up on canned goods and now I stocked up on ground beef Both my mother in law and mom have thanked me for wanting them and for listening to what I had to say My mother in law is a type one diabetic so I have been so concerned about her|1 lol you are right Yay thank|1 I love this guy Hes been a great source of information since the beginning of this And so has MedCram I watch him every day|1 Start looking for private midwives now Congratulations and I hope you and your baby a jolly life|1 LOL what a jokeI hope these drivers will sue the government|1 Here are examples of stats MADE UP FOR AN EXAMPLE I DID NOT LOOK UP OR SOURCE THEM 20 Have symptoms greater than a typical mild to medium Flu 15 Need care by professionals 10 Are in critical conditions 2 DieWhat you posted was For about 80 of people infected it is as a reply to just the flu Which paints the picture that its not serious Its editorializing the factImagine these two messagesFor about 80 of people infected its just the fluandFor about 20 of people infected it is a very serious illnessPeople walk away with different ideas There are lies damned lies and then there are statistics|0 I dont get why some cases are being reported by county yet some are being reported by town or cityIt makes no sense whatsoever|0 why its extremely liquidIm not an expert but one of the reasons the experts say washing with soap and water is best is because the gets in crevices and under fingernails that typical hand sanitizer does not Therefore Im guessing thats why they suggest thinnerThanks for posting|1 Honestly next time just say yes you are and get them to self isolate at home til the outbreak is over Ill make life infinitely more pleasant for the rest of us|1 Wrong approach Know your neighbors well Stock extra for them if you have resourcesYou have to sleep sometime|0 If NZ can delay the pandemic a month or so that should make a huge difference in knowledge about treatment Lots of work being done on sorting the appropriate anti viralsWe will get it though|0 This video is very short We dont know what happened before the camera was turned on Its clear something happened before hand because the person filming is specifically filming that woman as shes coming up the stairs Theres tons of racism going on all over in many countries UK is one of a handful of countries reporting on it on mainstream news|1 When people dont pay they might get the message|1 A better question is what is america doing period Because from what we are seeing the answer is a big fat nothing but ensuring exposed people remain at jobs Expect to see america with the highest total infected before all is said and done Meanwhile our president is out golfing Nothing to see here move along|0 I think everyone is scared to be the first one Perhaps the federal govt should make the call and cancel school nationwide for a starting period of 2 weeks to see what unfolds in that time|0 Meh I just avoid certain topics with certain people Im a moderate liberal in a far left town so its old hat D|1 Right now they are only doing test to people they know are infected They will keep doing the same No point in doing test to people with low chances of being infected they have a lot of workload with the ones that are obviously ill So yes positive results will be the norm with these testsAnd why do you talk about Beijing With Hubei they will have their hands full for months Hubei alone will funel in all these 700K testday for weeks We are talking about 58 million people 2 or 3 test for confirmation 2 or 3 more to confirm they are recovered There were 100K infected a few days ago How many do you think there are today How many next week|0 trust me your life isnt anything special|1 IDK about that but were learning things all the time Practice in the hospital where I work is still to routinely prescribe it for occassional insomnia Shouldnt be using anything on the reg without a doctors approval of course|0 just a note r refers to subreddit u refers to user should have used urabus if you want to link to user|1 I dont think it sounds that far fetched but Im sure its not as simple as them just saying this is the policy and all the public health officials and all the scientists and civil service going along with it Im sure there are a lot of angry arguments being had over the response behind the scenes I also think were really unlucky to have a government currently that is full of wack job sociopath types who believe in social darwinism and dodgy unproven behavioural science stuff which has only been proven to work on nudging very targeted personality profiles through social media to vote a certain way but really has not at all been tested on how to respond to a pandemic But they are very narcissistic people and think theyre cleverer than they actually are They also arent plagued by having a conscience or worrying about the fact people will suffer or die so to them ie people like Cummings its just an interesting opportunity to experiment and if people die well thats just another opportunity to smash some system or institution or another and build it back up as they see fitI think they are just way in over their heads but they dont even realise it They are very simple minded people who can have clever ideas in narrow domains that might work by fluke once or twice and so think they understand a whole scientific field from reading one or two popular science books about it for the layman but are completely dense when it comes to any depth of understanding of the complexity of all these things and things like unintended consequences So really I think we are screwed I am really disappointed in everyone who voted for these people doing research into who they actually are and what they actually believe in couldve told anyone who cared to know that these are not the people you want in charge of a country especially not when there is a crisis|0 Exactly Herd immunity seriously|0 Well in theory supposedly focused on sciencebased factual reporting but in actuality that with a froth of rubbernecking mass hysteria Point taken|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 1 Mass manufacture test make them available to everyone for free 2 Mandatory testing for everyone who shows flu symptoms or had any kind of contact with an infected infected or those in touch with the infected are in quarantine3 big fineprison for breaking quarantine4 mandatory 2 weeks quarantine for everyone who enters the US5 Get prisonsfactoriesanyone to mass manufacture disinfectants and masks6 Ban any gathering that involves more than 50 people7 Close schools|0 Youre lucky to live in the time we live in Work from home order groceries and have the store attendant put them in your trunk on pickup etc A lot easier to avoid people nowadays|1 Twitter has been censoring health professionals and people asking questions to them Dont trust the tweeter|0 Me watching it last year wow how scary Me watching it last week wow how competent|1 I hope the full release has a pause button we could all use one right about now|1 This is a huge negative impact for small businesses who were hoping to keep sales online going as store fronts close Amazon fulfilled items get search priority over seller fulfilled No warning to sellers it was on social media before they contacted sellers|1 Yes to adjust the bar will be hard and a complicate question But it should not be the question that we will avoid to talk about And it maybe look like an impossible mission now but it may not necessarily mean it is hard in the future if we keep working on it Hundreds of years ago the world thought flying was impossible httpszhuanlanzhihucomp105666817httpszhuanlanzhihucomp105666817 it is under investigation officially which is good The government is not denying they didnt react correctly which is also good|1 The communities back then were smaller and simplerSociety overall was more autonom and less dependent on each otherSure humanity probably wont die out but Im certain that there could be some Sociatal collapse nowadaysThere are no more farms sorrounding every village and city there is a higher density of people a bigger necessary demand of consumer products today we require electricity running water everywhere farmed and delivered food and all sorts of other industrial products that could easily stop being properly produced or distributed|0 Almost 16000 new infected cases today reported also considering how many people are not being tested Ooofff this is getting too big too fast|0 This is the first time in my life I desperately want to see a puppys rear end|0 Deserve some kind of punishment assuming they get over this|0 Experts from Hong Kong University predicted the epidemic possible pandemic to reach its peak level of daily infections in April or May Thats pretty concerning given how quickly the numbers are already going up for now|1 Im a gig economy worker self employed Teach private music lessons work part time at a YMCA play music gigs here and there on weekendsYMCA closed following schools no place to teach lessons now and no part time hours working there either most parents dont want home lessons and of course restaurants bars and winerys are closed so all gigs cancelledMy income drops to literally zero Im fucked I guess huh|0 I mean he always sounds terrible|0 Yeah This is how the virus started in Colorado Stay home|1 Walking around with poopoo fingies should be illegal|0 In the short term it will sink together with the general market You can have alphas but remember than betas almost always dominate in terms of magnitude|0 He goes to hospital and Mike Pence becomes acting president if he becomes too ill Theres a protocol for it Dick Cheney was president for a few hours twice when W was having surgery|0 Fear mongering man|0 I obviously meant the amount of infected and deaths taken at the same time Before the last person died to SARS there wouldve also been people that were infected and would end up dying but hadnt died yet Im curious how those statistics compare between the two virusesRight now deathsinfected for the new virus is low but the same mightve been true for SARS at the time|0 Step 1 call it by its name1919 Spanish Flu2020 China Flu|0 Also if it helps you feel better I actually had severe pneumonia requiring hospitalization while pregnant with my first child and she turned out perfectly healthy Dont panic too bad if you do end up sick but of course try to avoid it|1 Sounds just like our own thoughts and prayers in the states |1 I think the timing of it is very interesting I think its very deliberate theyve chosen this moment its a last ditch effort to force governments to start taking a far more comprehensive approach|1 what is the range for it to be considered serious|0 My wife works in government in nyc and I can tell you will 100 certainty no one has any idea what is going on or what to do next everyone is waiting for a superior to come in and save them|1 Well As a daughter of someone who lost the battle to lung cancer many years ago only 6 months after diagnosis I am truly amazed|0 smart guy|1 one is racially motivated and the other are just people being dicks|1 Excellent questionsAnd linksTy|1 Finding a way to airlift food daily for hundreds of millions of people we are ignoring the problem of production during a time where resources are already being spread thin Im not saying its impossible but its a massive undertaking|0 Yes look try very hard to understandHe can advertise the product for 30 or 3000 nobody is buying it People are buying hand sanitizer for 5Think of it this way I offer you a pencil for 500 you decide not to buy my pencil That proposition does not mean I have a pencil worth 500 and does it does not mean I have sold a pencil previously for 500|1 Add some wire to the top over the bridge of the nose You need it to fit close to be most effective Use craft wire the stem of a silk flower strip the wire out of twistties anything would help the fit|1 i tried to post a video to instructions about sewing face masks there and they removed it lol|1 On the 18th they expect the peak in new cases around 4500 positive testsTotal number of infected by the end of it is projected at 92000 by the first week of AprilTotal number of deaths projected at 3500And this is all based on the curve flattening out because of the quarantine if it doesnt we are fucked|1 Im not a JT fan but Im also not a lunatic I want our government to function At times like this Im thankful Canadians elect people in theirs 40s and 50s to leadership instead of the warmed over turds we see in the USA|1 Thousands of people died with more to come and the country is on lockdown this guy didnt start all that but he tried to contribute to it in a big way Thats not a minor crime and a broken nose isnt that extreme This is just people blowing off steam making comments that mean nothing on a site that means nothing|0 This Im remote and every dev I meet that isnt is jealous when they find out|1 We know it all along because the death rate in Wuhan at the beginning was even higher than that but morons were all saying it was only 2 and the flu is worse etc|0 Especially concerning for Hawaii since a number of Japanese positive cases have recently traveled to Hawaii while exhibiting symptoms|1 Heh was looking for this one|0 rent free in your head|1 Theyre trying to avoid testing people so they can feign ignorance about the international scale to allow flights to continue and the economy not to suffer as much Basically theyre trading their citizens lives for money and the world economy The best thing people can do is look at who is in power in the countries downplaying this and make sure they never have that power again|1 Goddam I just moved to California last month|0 Im surprised NBA Players havent come out to say STFUThey gave us lectures about free speech for supporting Hong Kong|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Its really over 70 where the death rate jumps|0 Its not clear that these are reinfections It could be that it takes a long time for this virus to clear up In any case 100 cases of that out of 87000 totally cases is pretty low I think|0 Also in many countries 2029 year olds are over represented in the infected population probably because they socialize a lot and are careless because they think the wont experience severe cases Well if enough of the younger ones are infected you start to see a lot of young severe cases|0 It should be easy to find someone who tested positive for stupidEsp if Im out driving|1 At least 19 of the crew are already infected Who knows how many more they will find|0 My family is planning to go to San Diego CA over spring break but we may cancel depending on how it spreads|0 Western education used to to cherish nuanceToday its killing itIts but a matter of time before this will bite us in the ass|0 looks surprised and disconcerted by the expression of acceptancesuspects a trick|1 70 is probably too high of a number to be honest The 2009 H1N1 pandemic was more or less left to do its thing without anything close to the interventions were seeing here and it only infected 1120 of the Worlds population I think 20 is a realistic number at this stage Its still a lot of dead people dont get me wrong|0 You can change the flight dates for free|1 Thank you|1 You know what thats better than nothing|1 I like that you think its not already there |1 He also didnt do it voluntarily People found his warehouses and sent the attorney general after him with volunteers and with a warrant took all his inventory They called it a donation to be nice|1 Theyre doing a great job at it too |1 Other interesting findingsTop of page eight of roughly 56000 people confirmed infected as of February 20th 511 were male So it appears to affect males and females equally Also average age of infected was 51 years oldMiddle of page 8 infection is spread via droplets and fomite during close contact Airborne aka aerosol infection has not been reported and is not believed to be a major driver for the spread of infection The fecal route is also not believed to be a major driver of infectionPage 12 As of 20 February 2114 of the 55924 laboratory confirmed cases have died crude fatalityratio CFR2 38 note at least some of whom were identified using a case definition that included pulmonary disease The overall CFR varies by location and intensity of transmission ie 58 in Wuhan vs 07 in other areas in China In China the overall CFR was higher in the early stages of the outbreak 173 for cases with symptom onset from 110 January and has reduced over time to 07 for patients with symptom onset after 1 February Figure 4 The Joint Mission noted that the standard of care has evolved over thecourse of the outbreak They also noted the inherent difficulties in calculating CFR early in an epidemic|0 Im sorry which part isnt gonna age well First glance it seems to make sense|0 Hell yeah Durham|0 Fuck your links with news Iran is able and would cover that shit up The death count is way higher|0 The government thinks fewer If we ban sporting events everyone will go to the pub and thats higher risk|0 Honestly fuck off Complaining about the current government missinforming the public on a basic fact the rest of us have known for weeks is absolutely relevantSourcehttpswwwsciencealertcomresearchersconfirmedpatientscantransmitthecoronaviruswithoutshowingsymptomsampjsv01usqpmq331AQFKAGwASAThis is going to result in unnecessary deaths|0 bay area here i do nonessential work for the city of san francisco and i just had all my shifts canceled through march hella bummed about it i hope it doesnt get worse my hood will rip itself apart if they lock it down stay strong everyone|1 Stay strong Italy|1 This is why masks maybe not N95 ones but just something hell even just a cloth one with no filtering qualities are not bad things We should all be wearing them They help you to not touch your mouth We do it subconsciously|0 Sorry I know it sucks|0 Thank you for the Info my concern is that he portrayed it as there should be no action or concern if someone has no symptoms even if they have been in somewhat close contact with a confirmed case|0 Point already reached My mom who is a nurse told me that sometimes they dont even check|1 He speaks the truth I will just copypasta this since I did the math in a different threadDYODD but I heard we have 115 days from today before the US resembles Italy a week from Saturday is 11 days so plan accordinglyWhat I mean to say is our timeline is 115 days behind ItalyToday 31020 US casesdeaths 97530Italy casesdeaths 10149631Not to mention once the test kits get successfully deployed nationwide I expect an immediate jump in our numbers in a single day to 45k casesIf todays US numbers were accurate and we follow the doubling every 4 days theory in 12 days our cases should be close to 7800 so given the severe lack of testing I see 10k in 115 days as a REAL possibility|0 Who the hell isnt pissed about it Anyone paying any level of attention to what is happening is furious|0 Its anecdotal but I have noticed lots of people getting sick at my work in Detroit Somebody 4 seats away just took the day off for the flu and like every 2 minutes I hear a different person coughing It would be nice if we started testing|0 We will have to live like this for at least 6 months mentally prepare yourselvesWere getting into a situation where the only analogy is war said New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio who predicted that the number of COVID19 cases in his city alone could surge to 1000 by as soon as next week This will not be over soon he warned sketching a roughly sixmonth time frame for the citys restrictions httpswwwusatodaycomstorynewsnation20200312newyorkcoronavirusbroadwaytimessquaresafety5038143002httpswwwusatodaycomstorynewsnation20200312newyorkcoronavirusbroadwaytimessquaresafety5038143002 Q How long will we have to keep social distancing School closed Are we talking about some very uncomfortable realties here A What we are talking about is a complete change in lifestyle for the next 6 months and maybe even longer We have to realize around the world we are now in a pandemic This is unprecedented We have never had this in our lifetimes before Dr John Campbell httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOkwHNeNU098httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOkwHNeNU098|0 Barsrestaurants around the border are probably advertising to those people sadly|0 best wishes from the usa|1 See Im afraid Id get in trouble for even pretending|0 lol imagine issuing a fricken arrest warrant over thisAnyone with a third grade knowledge of biology knows one of the primary ways you die from a virus is from your own immune system killing you in its zeal to exterminate the infectionNow generalize that and prepare to observe the same dynamics on a macro scale|0 In Italy theres been no leveling off They are still increasing in number of cases and are about two weeks ahead of us|0 No they were wearing masks too Only have to move it when showing ID|0 While drive thrus offer a limited interaction option they surely do not stop the spread of the virus Yes mom and pop shops are really going to be hurting and my heart is with them and I plan to continue to support them after this is all over|1 Heck they could snap a photo of the signed document if need be Why do people forget basic common sense when something like this happens I see zero benefit from having everyone touch a diseased paper and then take that paper somewhere offsite lol|1 The r0 is so high that stopping this is like fighting the wind|0 He wasnt asked about Coronavirus generically He was asked how it might impact his team Ie his players travel training etc A very relevant question that didnt warrant this splurge of sanctimonious virtue signalling|1 Thats amazing This is against howMany active cases Also whats the median age|1 good news is you ahve that option now In a month those jobs wont be available|1 Im waiting for the next wave of coronavirus inspired computer viruses CoVid19 CoRoNaFiCKeR|1 I did not listen to celebrities before And i sure a fuckk dont care what they say now|0 Coughing is now more embarrasing than farting in public lmao|1 Couldnt have said it better|1 80 degrees is what summer usually is like in some countries We know the virus wont stop in those temperatures is my point Its usually 35C in my country in summer I never said 26 degrees is hot|1 Also pediatric deaths although rare can occur re the WHO One more reason to stay home Please|1 Thank you I jumped on this like a june bug on a duck but I didnt know why It just rang a bell Now I know why |1 Immaterial of these factors the real danger lies in it mutating The chance of mutation is exponentially greater the more widely its spread What 45 is doing is wholly about keeping his capitalist cronies from losing a goddamned dime Just the fear of the more mild version sent the stock market into its biggest single day downturn ever His comments aligned with that plummet Surgeon general and CDC work for him its abundantly clear any deviation from 45s messaging will be met with severe consequences for any member of his administration Its a recipe for a much much worse pandemic Simply put if this virus mutates in similar ways to other SARS strains 45 will be responsible for more deaths than Hitler Without question|0 There have been some isolated cases where virus appears to have resurfaced in patient But we do not know very much about it These could be eg false negative tests patient has been sent home before they were fully healed and come back in week or two with the disease again flaring up It could be a lot of thingsWe have so many people recovered so long ago that if this is real well be getting confirmation of it pretty soon So far I think these are individual flukes rather than evidence of immunlogical system not developing normal longlasting immunity for this disease|0 I find it interesting that on this and the big Coronavirus subreddit this article maintain a high ratio of upvote on both subreddits Sure the comment section content can be different but this article could have been removed in the big Coronavirus subreddit or being downvoted to oblivion instead of getting more than 10K upvotes there and a high 90 upvote ratioAnd now the rCoronavirus thread gets locked|1 Do the losses when it halts outweigh the expense of carrying more stockYes but the MBA who introduced the system has exercised xer stock options and moved on before it happens|0 then hit up the photo studio and take some memory photos of yall shitfaced drunk wearing masks and formal wear|0 yeah whats frustrating is they could even if we didnt do the whole south korean robo testing we could do a whole lot more tests manually if we adopted the existing tech out there my boss is like really well connected so i know he is getting fantastic top of the line care but all the same it feels like most of us will probably go through this season wondering if every cough or sneeze is the coronavirus without the benefit of a test|1 Even with free testinghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvmKvCAR0AkrohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvmKvCAR0Akro|1 Other ppl have posted that their doctors who had recent teleconference with CDC said that the CDC is advising doctors to only test ppl who appear in serious condition The rest are being advised to go home|0 Best wishes to all you brave mothers and great fathers taking care of them You guys got this|1 You havent dealt with this beforeOne reasonable request from an employee concerned with their safety reported and theyd jump Workers have the right to a safe workplace and employers are obligated to protect workers and oblige their safety concernsNot to mention potential ADA violationsAll its gonna take is one speedbump for them to weigh the cost of litigation against supplying PPE|1 Thanks Yeah me too|1 Yeah My point was assuming it will affect races differently is utter rubbish and racist although low key The virus jumped from animals to humans unless you are saying europeans are not humans Everything that preceded this sars mers regular flu didnt pick race as determinant so I can only think of you having some sort of europeans are different mindset going on|0 Out here in CA child abuse seems to include not having superfast internet I dont know very many homes that do not have a computer or ipad Theres also the old school method of giving the kids a couple of books to select from a list to read and write a report on the book This is not business as usual any bureaucratic excuse accepted In those ares with high levels of active transmission schools are going to be a viral force multiplier with resultant higher death rates among both children but more so among senior adults What loads the internet are entertainment games etc It takes about 20 seconds to download a complete audiobook Its not going to takedown the internet especially with many business functions at less than normal operating demands If all that fails each student gets an assigned time to arrive at their local library to select books from a very large reading list or to acquire the book Its time to stop saying No We Cant and say Yes We Must|0 Theres tons of communities not exposed We could keep it that way if someone would do something about it|1 Mate the known infected supposedly only 40 at that point were in the hospital not on a plane to Vietnam Im not sure why youre beating this angle to deathThe chance of this particular person being infected is low but the chance of someone being infected was rather high if there were patients travelingYou are making some massive implicit assumptions in youre statements on this matter|0 Winnie the flu|0 Yea the overreaction and panic on this sub is fascinating|0 Haha awe your shiny hat shimmers in the sunlight Much love stay safe out there|1 Dude i was travelling in India and there was a stray puppy who looked hungry so i took a packet of biscuits out to feed it and out of nowhere this pretty big monkey came snatched the biscuit out of my hand quite rudely i might add and sat on a high pillar calmly opened the packet and started eating the biscuits one by one One shouldnt underestimate these criminal gangs of monkeys|1 Thank you for caring for your employees during thisAnd also looking out for the rest of us too Grocery stores in many ways are just as much the frontlines as medical workers at this phase of the pandemic in the US And more likely to have their employee bathroom toilet paper stolen|1 What about people gaming triage by not reporting conditions that would exclude them from the best treatment If true it would probably only appear in Wuhan data|1 CNN doesnt make policy so who cares|1 Please dont wear masks said US Surgeon General|1 He is not a doctor He is nurse with a PhD Thats like an extended education for nurses that have never been in med school Its extremely looked down upon to call yourself a doctor if not an MD in a hospital setting Its actually illegal in some US statesThat man is seriously not to be trusted Also his videos are like 8th grade content compare that to for example MedCram who is an actual MD the level is much much higherHe really is horrible because he has zero of the morale and high spirits you see normally from crisis doctors and he comes of as down to earth while having an underlying tone of we might as well give up while peddling only the craziest preliminary studies that he goes through on an elementary school level Also he starts every other video with sorry i got emotional yesterday to create drama ugh such a sleazeball|0 oh no i didnt|0 Nitrile is always better No allergies solvent barrier and bio barrierLatex gloves are only bio barrier|0 Just heard fromCo worker cdc is shutting this place down and everyone stuck there quarantined Not sure tho|0 Northern rural California Grocery stores have empty shelves in some places but not wiped out People arent practicing safe social distancing Touching their faces wiping their noses My boss wants me to travel for work tomorrow and stay in a hotel for three days Hes acting like this is an annoying fake problem and wants to continue as normal|0 Arent you immune to it after you had it and recovered|0 luckily your coworkers cant fire you so who cares what they think|1 If they really cared they would have studied anticoronaviral drugs years ago|1 There will be more people dying from Corona Virus than the flu if they cannot stop this|0 We can call it whatever the fuck we want to this is social media Wuhan400 Kung Flu SARS2 the fucking chinese plague|0 More Quitting propaganda Stop it|0 Motherfucker you just shit all over the story I posted because it wasnt enough for you to believeIt might have held value|0 we dont know the number infected but not counted yet eg not tested because they dont exhibit symptoms Based on the numbers we haveas of todaydeathscases 303 236277984deathsdeaths recovered 997 23622363 21315Both of these are highly dependent on the critically ill receiving some medical care if the health care systems of the world are overwhelmed like Wuhan in early days then both of these values would go up The fact that many people are asymptomatic also implies that the total absolute numbers of deaths could go very high If 13 1 billion are infected and there is a 1 CFR then that is 10 million deaths If the CFR goes to 5 from current deathscases of 3 then we are looking at 50 million deaths If 50 38 billion are infected and there is a 1 CFR then that is 38 million deaths If the CFR goes to 5 from current deathscases of 3 then we are looking at 190 million deathsWorst case If 50 38 billion are infected and the CFR goes to 10 from current deathscases of 3 then we are looking at 380 million deaths|0 9598 dont die you mean20 require hospitalization|1 Well thats the issue when you constantly hear about how all of our problems are directly caused baby boomers|0 Yes but thats irrelevant here Its like saying Brunei and Ireland has significantly stronger economies than the US You think anyone would take that seriously|1 Well besides inciting panic not much I just mentioned it because someone was knocking Fox News like they were so terrible|0 Ive posted this a couple times but they didnt necisarily get tested because they are wealthy They were tested because they are literally assets with 30m gaurunteed contracts If a player has lung damage from pneumonia they may never be able to play again but the team is still on the hook for the contract|1 Thats something everyone kinda knows by now Also Germany and Switzerland arent reporting sick people and are with secret orders not repeating NOT taking care of their elderly to prioritise young people Old or at risk people are put under quarantine at home but thats it|0 Dont forget about the reparations that Haiti had to pay to France for the wealth lost by former slave owners Let that sink it The oppressed had to pay the oppressor for daring to take their freedom|1 Yes you should We will all eventually be forced to isolate Staying away from people is the way to slow this viral spread down|0 Hi Mr GatesWhat steps can we take to ensure the billiondollar wildlife food industry is shut down so epidemics like Ebola and COVID19 can be avoided in the futureThanks Ps You are our inspiration and we love the work you do|1 A real boots on the ground report not senseless fear mongering Thank you OP|1 In Taiwan they are testing patients 3 times in a row 24 hours in between to ensure the patient tests negative after recovering from the virus They also advise the patient to still self quarantine at home for at least 14 days|0 I live in Dallas I really feel like most people consider this nothing serious They are more irritated its just a burden on their every day lives|0 Absolutely the expertise of the staff is critical Once you exhaust the resources of either the people or the machines you run into the terrible rationing you had mentioned in another reply something we all had hoped to never see so frequently in a first world country|0 Well have a movie about this next year or the one after I just know it|1 The older i get the more i understand how some people just get jaded by time When u are young you dont expect death at your door but when you get older it doesnt surprise you if another disaster is at your door You just spend days counting down to the next one|0 No current antivirals are effective on COVID19 but they are starting some trials on newly developed treatments Diuretics may not help in this case depending on what the fluid buildup is composed of like phlegm vs excess fluid Perhaps a bronchoscope to suction out the junk that has built up might help A chest tube might help if the fluid is in the chest cavity but not if it is in the lungs Something we might do is place the patient in prone position Also ECMO to divert the lung function and allow them to heal while machines do their workWith the number of people that are critically ill those types of therapies wont be common They require a lot of specialized equipment and there are probably not enough to go around This would be true in any country that gets hit with a massive epidemic there is only so much equipmentmedicineskilled personnel to go around|0 If you are in the US I dont believe a test matters If you feel ill stay home There is nothing any doctor can do for you at this stage test or no test Assume you have it and try not to give it to anyone else|0 Ive been downvoted any time Ive posted something truthful or positive Everyone on this thread is becoming toxic AF I think its going to be time to go somewhere else for news soon|1 Lots of people I know on discord from Switzerland are annoyed at any advice and tips and are pissed that schools are closed I just cant believe it How people can be like that ughhhhhhh|0 Ugh I just read this as well|0 Id be suspicious of someone giving me a mask even if it appeared to be still be in the packaging A lot of DIY mask packaging isnt really tamper evident Im only relying on masks to protect me from the great unwashed at Tesco Never mind some confirmed infected patient in an ICU|1 Think of us as the sword and shield of the rest of the states we are doing our job taking the brunt of if so the rest of you guys can be safe for longer|1 For one I wasnt acting childish I made a small joke about his username I stated very very plainly in my original post why I couldnt provide evidence He or she still tried to push me despite having a valid reason as to why I couldnt Take your high horse elsewhereEdit and to be clear again since youre struggling with the idea what would posting a header accomplish She gets hundreds of emails a day You want proof she works at a hospital Okay that kind of proves that but that she got exactly what I stated was in an email a header doesnt prove that There is only one type of proof that works and you damn well know what it is|1 Government response no u|0 I thought that as I watched people in Costco who were clearly there for mega corona supplies carts full of sanitizers wipes etc but then at the same time falling all over themselves for free samples God people are stupid|1 Hey I got got sick with a high fever and a nasty cough that shredded my lungs About a month or so I am also around that area a lot Did you give me it lol|0 some places are already asking cancer patients to hold off on chemo therapythe ripple effect this can have on a population is enormous|0 Oh I dunno exponential increase in an immune naive population where uncontrolled local transmission is taking place at an effective R0 rate of 1 But youre right Im sure Germany will somehow be the special case of Europe to not be affected and not have to take any Draconian measures because your magical thinking wishes it soHonestly Im so sick of people like yourself|1 we can all thank the chinese communist government for doing a shitty job at controlling the virus|0 C You have a mortgage to pay meaning you dont get the luxury of isolation|0 The only reason Im so concerned about this is that it will kill my mother Shes got health issues and lived thru pneumonia This will kill her and Im not ridiculous|0 I assume you mean that under normal circumstances are we always in Phase 2 I dont know enough about epidemiology to know how common animal influenza viruses that jump to humansRight now I believe were in Phase 5 Pandemic imminent You might want to google the WHO regions China Japan Thailand are all part of the same region India is a separate region and if India or Europe or the US blows then were at Phase 6|1 No sir not here I have figured out how to make something slightly similar My children are asthmatic and I know we are in trouble Everyone reading thisGo through your damn medication cabinet If you have medicine that you no longer use take it to your local fire department gloves and critical essentials for our first responders I am actually going to post something on Reddit when I am able to get out of my houseWe can only do so much God help our firefighters EMTs and everyone else|0 httpsrobinhoodcomusenYou can download the app and trade stocks from your phone no commission|0 Getting tired of the selective enforcement of the rules here Why even have rules This sub is becoming just like politics|0 Just make sure you word it as secession not quarantine Pretty sure cali unfortunately will be the first state we think of that though|0 305 PM ET happens when this comment is 19 hours and 1 minutes oldYou can find the live countdown here httpscountlecomsjk255EEIm a bot if you want to send feedback please comment below or send a PM|1 My partner only talks about it when she says shell leave me if I dont stop talking about it|1 yes 100 worked there for 3 years and it was the worst retail job I ever had|0 Twitter is retarded A user made a hateful post that wished someone would die I copied the text of the post and replaced it with their name to show how easily their own post applies to them hoping that would make them stop and think Someone reported it and my account was suspended That users post remained up and their account is still active|0 US has high diabetes and high high blood pressure rates Especially in the Southern States Where also the medical systems are really bad|0 Do I need to cancel my Nashville trip this coming weekend|0 Im in the same boat Were looking into how bad it would be if I switched meds to something more readily available but Im apprehensive tbh|0 My countys extended spring break for another week for now itll likely extend more as we see how things look when March ends and theres unconfirmed scuttlebutt in back channels of up to statelevel school shutdowns for the rest of the 20192020 year possibly changing to measures as extreme as restarting school about this time next year and picking up where everyones left off as of this point in each districts curriculumMethinks the US political machine is getting kicked squarely in the balls over its complacency as more and more states say fuck this noise and begin extreme reactions and responses on their own|0 Its been used for 20 years to extend the lives of people with the fatal cancer Multiple Myeloma|0 I ran out yesterday I went to the shop and bought a pack of 61010 good experience|1 Hes speaking to the USit is miserably flopping in every way|0 Yeah any kind of smokevape is not good for the lungsMaybe less harmful to tobacco but till it isnt good|0 Will do Thanks again Yeah I imagine youre a bit busy right now|1 How about adding a rule against your users encouraging violence against others Reported twothree comments last week of people telling others to hurt people|0 Trump has had like 5 Katrinas at this point|1 Oh my god Our priorities have been way offship him to the middle of the ocean now|1 I found it easiest to just start incorporating a couple easy meatless meals into my diet If you eventually find some meals that are vegetarian or vegan that you enjoy that are easy to make you can go from there and find a few more that you like and eventually work towards phasing out whatever it is you choose not to eat or support|1 Im flying there on the 11th for the airforce base graduation Should I cancel Both my parents are going and are over 60|0 Thats not fair Dont make me hate facts I love facts|1 Early They started their extreme measures a month after they knew what was going on because if they didnt they would lose face|1 He didnt or it wasnt known but he was feeling ill and my guess is that he was taking ibuprofen but thats not corroborated|0 People need to hang onto that last bit of hope That theyre invincible and this virus wont affect them|1 Except if you have a mask on and u constantly touch it and mess with it you will be increasing the chances that you contract the virusx200BJust my 2 cents|0 Why do people upvote these comments that honestly have no insight into how wealthy people manage their money and are just sensationalist borderline conspiracy theory nonsenseIf anything rich people would hedge their positions not remove their money This is the first sign you dont know what youre talking about selling positions would create a huge tax event that no one wants Many Billionaires own a big piece of 1 company which they cant just sell willynilly They need to do it through plans to remove any opportunity for insider knowledge directing their decisions too muchUltrawealthy dont have the same asset allocation as other people and they treat their wealth in a completely different way Most will look through an issue like this Then if there is real damage done use money allocated towards safer assets to increase their equity allocation after this event|1 Dont be sorry we all would|1 Notable I agree Have to say OPs post gives me much more confidence than I had that the government is more competent than I assumed from reading about disabling elevators in high rises welding people in etc good luck OP |1 I tracked my parcel from China through Korea Germany and Southampton which are all affected areasI quarantined it in the garage|0 3 seriously hope this can wake us up to work together again this might have a silver lining one can hope|1 Nothing is free|0 He is so in the true|1 Good job COVID19|1 Japan has been pretty inept so far but still better than plenty of other countries I have to say though that I will cherish the look on Abes face when the Olympics is cancelled|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 A contagion doesnt give a fuck if you think youre tough moron|0 Please consider getting a pulse ox and a peak air flow meter|1 Check out posts and comments by umobo392 A few studies have looked at this not too deeply TL DR Smokers and former smokers are SIGNIFICANTLY underrepresented in the total cases there are far fewer smokers former smokers that have covid19 than the population would suggest although if a smoker does get covid19 and is hospitalized they are at a higher likelihood for severe diseasehttpsjournalslwwcomcmjAbstractpublishaheadAnalysisoffactorsassociatedwithdisease99363aspx|0 Wish I had more upvotes to give This is spot on|1 Are there any R0 estimates for SingaporeGermany seems like it might be an example supporting this hypothesis too one big spread then it only managed to spread further within immediate families Singapore appears to be a similar situation at least so farI wonder how much of this is containment efforts vs simple transmission dynamics|1 Using fuck anywhere as part of marketing materials even worse as the actual tagine to your movement just shows how childish and baseless it actually is There is no cred ability here it seems like it has been formed by an edgy highschooler who wants time off schoolThis isnt going to make anyone think twiceClearly you have no expertise in any matter related to this lmaoYour disclaimer is laughableDisclaimerThe content of this website does not constitute medical advice The information provided above is meant to be a suggestion for concerned individuals to follow a loose set of guidelines based on best practices and anecdotal evidence to protect themselves and their loved ones There is no guarantee or scientific evidence that following the mentioned guidelines will lead to a reduction in new infections or even stop the COVID19 epidemic There is also no guarantee that following these guidelines will reduce the risk of getting infected with SARSCoV2 or any other viral or bacterial contagionAka we know fuck all We just guessing|0 Im not sure what you do for work but pretty much everyone working in a corporate office goes on business flights at least once a month or like me which is multiple times a week The world needs functioning airlines to recover its as simple as that|1 It is more like late summer autumn has started in Australia|1 I havent seen any published evidence for 24 days of incubation I have seen some scientific evidence that people are still contagious after they recover but during the lockdown those who get sick can be identified for extended lockdown No lockdown effort will end this totally But any lockdown of any reasonable duration will slow it dramatically as we await a widely distributed vaccine estimated to be a year away We cannot wait that long to do something about this Lockdown has to happen|0 Um that is not true There are two questions that can be answered 1 efficacy on top of SOC standard of care which would allow all positive cases to enter regardless of OTC2 Efficacy of the treatment vs SOC For a quick pilot 2 would be advisable as you could test both efficacy and SAFETY unconfounded with other agents For an actual definitive trial you would have to do 1 as that would be closer to answering the question about treatment policy The sample size has nothing to do with it|1 Im saying antivaxxers think that they are correct when they dont get sick after not getting vaccinated due to herd immunity Im not saying they are actually correct|1 And nothing of value was lost|0 The issue is saturation of critical care The disease has always had a far higher lifethreatening illness rate than 12 even in samples like Diamond Princess or Singapore where everyone is being tested|1 Maybe the feds could pass a law fining companies that send junk mail That would cut down the amount of useless junk none of us want to receive and you shouldnt have to be delivering I do get how your job may be critical in months to come but not to deliver junk mail|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfeupgdihopeeveryonerealizesthereasonthecdcandfjs2i3acontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ive been here so long I actually got masks lol|1 The real point of these projection is that measure to blunt the transmission to achieve R01 cannot be avoided which is why people should start preparing for communitywide isolation|0 As a lizard person I accept your apology|1 You live is the most interesting county in the state|1 February Nah its cool bruh Just wash your handsMarch Um yeah we might have a problem|1 With that said many companies will bunch up other bad news at times of disasters etc so very possible that not all revenue guidance downside or the preannouncement is driven by coronavirus Source used to do investor relations|0 I thought the democrats were the group that said Trump won because of russian hackers Its almost like each side is trying to find a scapegoat when they lose|1 Just a guess but likely they are not testing or reporting Maybe due to strategic reasons visavi China Also they closed schools and trace well and stuff They might also have been fast and caught enough cases but probably not|1 Without talking specifically about my unit the critically ill patients across the UK are in a broad age mix There are a smaller number of younger patients 30s to 40s who are usually well and a larger number of older patients with comorbiditiesItaly exceeded their critical care capacity days ago The European intensive care community is relatively close knit we all have friends and colleagues in EU hospitals and we see each other often at conferences and the like The news from Italy is incredibly sad The units are full no operations are occurring as patients are being ventilated in theatres Portable ventilators are being used Italy recently released a set of COVID guidelines aimed at addressing resource allocation in times of severe demand and lack of supply This is the first time I have seen guidelines in a first world country suggest that older patients who have survivable illness are not considered for intubation and ventilation in order to allow capacity to treat younger patientsThis is an incredibly bleak situation our thoughts and prayers are with our Italian colleagues but it may only be a week or two until we are in the same ship|1 You might have missed the part where ALL the airlines are about to go under|0 Shes calling me today and Ill get more info|0 Is it still predominantly the elderly that are affected or are younger people getting worse complications too as things progress It was in the local news here NetherlandsBelgium yesterday that patients are younger on average with severe symptoms But the age of patients and deceased in Italy seems to be not getting reported so Im curious to know how this is developing in Italy|0 What meds should we have on hand if we have to fight this without a hospital|1 Ha Yes a bit of a paradox for sure|1 There a post just below this saying if you dont want to panic dont visit this site often The post sure was right|1 Heres an album a friend in social services and I made together with tips on what to do if your hours have been cut due to COVID19httpsimgurcomgallery30ZtsSU While this was specifically made for people in Washington there is a lot thats applicable for all US Citizens|1 yeah I started reposting articles two weeks ago on FB in an attempt to educate my ignorant friends I can only hope it helped a bit but I doubt it Denial is a strong state of mind and most people view news as partisan even if it is freaking world news Ive come to the conclusion that the vast majority of people are idiots|1 So contain is what Contact trace and isolate How about the large number of community spread I feel like a virologist with all the information I am absorbing daily and all they have to say is keep calm and carry on Smh|1 He didnt even say that though He actually said that he ONLY wants people with severe symptoms and a history of contact with a positive patient He said it like 5 times in the news conference on Friday He was basically 1 step away from just outright saying I want the statistics low to make me look good|1 theres no reason to think this is any worse than any of the previous pandemic flu scares What lol Yes there is Its highly contagious Carriers are symptomless for up to 24 days while contagious It has a high lethality It can leave people with permanent organ damage What else do you need|0 And you cant even insult someone correctly |1 My friend told me that I looked like an idiot when I decided to wear a mask and gloves to school on Thursday I told him I didnt care what he thought Other people started coughing as a joke America has some sick people no pun intended|0 I dont want to take those odds either but hyperfixating on outliers is going to drive panic through the roof|0 They mightve stopped it if they didnt censor and lock up doctors|1 Go back I used to be a Sublime guy then Atom and I had a similar aversion to it I switched to VSCode a little over two years ago and havent looked back Its not perfect and has the occasional bug but overall its really wellmade compared to other options|0 Day cares are giant incubators Kids at day cares get sick every 2 weeks on average The parents have to go to work so they dont give a shit and they all send their kids to day care sick Everytime I went to take my daughter the kids were all full of snot and coughing everywhere and rubbing it on everything Nastyyy|1 I would say given the employees constant public exposure their risk is high Otherwise i agree|1 Young pricksThat misinformation is being propagated by the middle aged my friendAnd the media initially|0 No He should seek help|1 Also a large ignorant population saying its only the flu and the largest uninsured population of any state|0 I wouldnt mind if the sick employee gave it to the people making decisions against sick leave but fucking their coworkers is just awful|0 What if students filed no tax return or did the right paperwork when you dont have to but relied solely on their parents and loans Those kids shouldnt be stiffed by this because theyre equally as impacted by the situation as everyone else|0 You mean like asprin|1 Would it be worthwhile to place an order for camostat mesilate I found a few online vendors that ship from Japan No idea how long it would take to ship to the US or if its even a good idea to do so|1 Good news flair please|1 Trump has a proven history of swindling and laundering money and there is public documentation proving he paid legal fines for laundering huge amounts of money and avoided the norm a long prison sentence Every last cent needs to be accounted for with definitive proof of purchase or funds toward reparations community needs and medical needs|0 Sounds ideal really They arent picking and choosing what information is real theyre just shutting down any information that isnt coming from an official source|1 The you didnt pray to GOD enough and he is punishing you everyone knows all worthy Christians are given worldly riches Some Republican Somewhere|0 But Trump is a genius and the doctors and researchers were surprised that he understands so much about the Virus|1 How the hell did this only get 13000 views with over a million subscribed and 69 upvotes since December 31st Wth|0 Interesting that there were less tests done but a higher positive rateI wonder if people are trying to avoid getting tested and what of cases are seriousLooks like of hospitalizations is still increasing and that probably includes a lot of triaging occuring|1 More valuable no But if we allow this virus to destroy the economy many more people will die Money has to keep flowing Life has to go on one way or another|0 Celsius In March thats tropical The flu needs 40 F and below to thrive|0 Okay but did you see the news about even the recovered having lung damage|0 Yeah very strange I agree|1 Yup The US actually does fairly well in terms of air quality In general European nations tend to be more environmentally mindful than the US and have much stricter regulations but they also tend to have a substantially higher population density|1 Because youll run out of doctors eventually And I suspect other countries wouldnt be all that willing to send their doctors into this whole mess especially if their worried about it affecting them|0 I said Americans are fat fucks what didnt you readAnd I did more than read a single article about Korean drinkingbut surely the country with the biggest hangover xure industry in the world mayjust mayhave a drinking problem Surely a country that drinks 4x what russiaa country that literally endorsed state sponsored alchohalism for military servicesmay have public health issues due to drinkingMaybe people who make Americans look like lazy workers just may have compromised immune systemsThats all Im saying I said Americans are unhealthy fucks but get off your high horse because you are citing the good of Korean society while ignoring the rampant alchohalism and work yourself to depression work culture|0 So you admit you have no better solution but you think its a crime against humanity anywaysAre you aware that basically every country has had similar quarantine camps in the past|0 Ive played enough of the division to be able to see where this is going|1 There is nothing moronic about not caring if your image is stolen Its almost expected if you post it on Reddit|0 Reminds me of the cases in Hawaii Details have emerged regarding the latest2 cases inKauai a couple whohad traveled from Indiana arriving inMauion March 2 Shortly after their arrivalone of the visitors developed a fever shortness of breath and cough andwent to an urgent care facilityOn March 7 the second visitor also developed symptoms and went to urgent careA day later both of the visitors flew to Kauaistaying at the Kauai Marriott and onMarch 9 one of the visitors visited again an urgent care facility Finally on March 12the two informed health care workers that theyhad close contact with an individual who had tested positive for coronavirus 2 health care workers in Maui and 1 in Kauai are now in selfisolation because they were not wearing protective equipment sourcehttpswwwhawaiinewsnowcom20200314visitorskauaitestpositivecoronaviruscountyofficialsconfirm|1 If you think you can personally decide average intelligence in humans based on one perspective you arent so clever either my friend|1 The stigma is that youre diseased Unlike some east Asian countries its not common to wear a mask here even when sick|0 Ive seen its 2500 passengers and 1000 staff The 3700 number is a total|1 China is a mixed economy it is not a fully planned one which is why they have a problem now they have millions of small business that are going bankruptStill they are in much better position than others|1 Its 125 and the 1pm public address still hasnt started Im getting some big last minute decision vibes here Cant say I like those vibes much|0 The emissions drop over industrial China might be true or it might not be all true This is a really tricksy doubletalk and doublebacktalk moment were in Its like somebody turned of the mental reality generator As it slowly spins down apparent incompetence and some actual chaos ripple across the globe as we produce the most unprepared response the US has ever shown the world At the highest levels from the CDC WHO country leaders and experts like epidemiologists the reports are different Depending on whos allowed to talk and how much we might hear a slice of it or a combination of reports from various localities or better yet even morenumberseven though we should all just acknowledge the numbers have an abysmal statistical accuracy when totaled Every country is either lying about it are clueless as to what the numbers may actually be or they vacillatemasks Yes Wait No Well OK maybe that one but Dont Wearuntil noone is quite sure what current numbers or protocol is or if your PPE is Enough to Keep You Safe I can bet this ramble made sense to like 5 people Well the reports and numbers in media are The Show Its like watching a snake slither this twoparty Us vs Them diatribe the banter with The sly nods are practically comical lts rhetoric dovetails so smoothly with a large number of other bulltwinkies to keep people satisfied and complacent I think Trump wants Martial Law Before November|1 It wont stop them lol|0 i have an ex in seattle we no longer talk but he lives near the needle i wonder how hes doing hes probs freaking out|0 14 is the mortality rate for those 80 in China at current Seems on par and legit terrifying if you happen to be elderly|0 They all say that correctly wearing an N95 mask will greatly reduce your rate of contracting this virus and to say otherwise is how you know someone is lying or ignorantIt reduces rate of contraction if you are exposed to it Not being in public is still infinitely more effective than being in public with masks A person WILL NOT get this illness if they are isolated a mask does not guarantee anything to an individual in public other than the risk being lowered an unknown percentage If people have to be in public use masks Otherwise the lot of incomplete opinions and halftruths are giving people a false sense of security Look at OP for example Her kids are out of school which means theres no immediate reason for them to be in public Her kids shouldnt need masks because they should be isolated|0 This is bullshit The definition of a pandemic isnt defined but if you can still contain itsIts already spread to multiple countries and continents its spread human to human Its a god damn pandemic whichever way you look at it|0 This reminded me of something last year whereby fema were stock piling Please tell me Im not going mad|1 Take a break This is all real and stressful news But weve gotta approach it with clear heads Give yourself a break for a bit|0 Prepared for what the great asswipe shortage of 2020 oh no the humanity|1 the CDC should not be responsible for tallying casesYeah fuck being informedWho the fuck would argue that|0 Overall the empiricallyobserved effects between the rs4804803 SNP and risk for various diseases have been contradictory even among studies of the same disease For HCV the presence of the G allele appears to cause a worse clinical outcome than the A allele PMID 2047083httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed2047083doptAbstract while for HTLV1 the G allele is protective PMID 19264667httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed19264667doptAbstract For dengue two separate studies yielded two different results in a Thai cohort the G allele was strongly protective PMID 15838506httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15838506doptAbstract while for a Taiwanese cohort the A allele was protective PMID 21245921httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed21245921doptAbstract A similar contradiction was observed for tuberculosis where one study observed that the G allele was protective PMID 18167547httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed18167547doptAbstract and another observed that it was destructive PMID 16379498httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed16379498doptAbstract So far the G allele appears protective for SARS PMID 20359516httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed20359516doptAbstract but the A allele is protective for both HIV and inflammatory bowel diseases PMID 15564514httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed15564514doptAbstract PMID 16865785httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed16865785doptAbstract Perhaps these contradictory results are due to the conflicting effects of DCSIGN expression when an organism is confronted with different infectious organisms The A allele at position 336 in CD209 is correlated with increased DCSIGN expression in vitro but it is unclear how this would manifest itself clinically For example increased DCSIGN expression on dendritic cells could lead to a faster and stronger immune response to certain infections but it could cause others for example viruses that can use DCSIGN as an entry portal to host cells to increase in severity It is clear however that differences in expression of the CD209 gene product do lead to differential host response to infection much of the variability among studies could be due to geographicethnic differences in study population or different mechanisms of pathogenesis for the organisms involved Clearly further work is needed to firmly establish the clinical effects of this important SNPx200BSourcehttpswwwsnpediacomindexphprs4804803|1 Germany the same We pay a horrible price by not cancelling carnival The same happened with the Spanish flu Funny how history repeats itself|0 No I get that I just want to hear what people expect will actually happen if not a cure of sorts|0 lol Have you seen your facebook feeds lately Just like with politics Zuckerberg is a complicit and passive hub for misinformation for every subscriber who only reside their maximumprofit bubblessilos Screw Zuckerberg Hes also a virus|1 Fair enough|1 Ive been a bartender for 17 years Ive worked in corporate jobs including as a print production manager at several large printing firms but I always go back to bartending I love my bar my coworkers and my job I make more money in a single night than some people do in a few days working full time jobs Im not sure why people have a hard time understanding that some of us truly love what we do and dont want to do anything else|1 So no more Tinder I guess|0 Containments been out the window for a while damage control now|0 Wonderful people in NS absolutely scared to death of making a fuss to authority figures but wonderful people|1 The bible gives some good advice It basically says not to fear Living without the fear reaps rewards for you and your familyI caught up on some reading and it really helpedIt helped a lot|1 Nah Im not the one that plays in echo chambers|1 Even with the increased testing were still not screening merely sampling confirming and tracking The actual incidence of infection will be greater than the test resultagreedThis will be less than the reported rise of confirmed cases by test Testing at least at the moment is confirming very symptomatic cases and being used to track and ruleout contacts Confirmation bias of a sort They are actively seeking out likely candidates My 15 is based on testing methodologies how many tests you need to perform to sample the population under suspicionTo confirm Im understanding I think what youre saying is because the NHS are only testing those who are statistically more likely to be infected the rate of spread is inflated beyond what it would be if we could actually measure the whole population And youve done some calculation to get to 15 HowAlso lets say a significant percentage of cases werent found by the NHS and they werent infected through known cases With the current testing criteria we wont find these cases they will continue to lead normal lives many of them thinking they just have a cold because the media and government has been downplaying it so much These missed cases will lead to unchecked community transmission and people wont be self isolating at the same rate as the confirmed cases so these people could potentially be infecting many more people each compared to those in the known chains of transmission I wouldnt be surprised if the rate of infection of these people cancelled out any reduction mentioned in the above paragraph it could even exceed it and we could be underestimating|0 I think its because it is very difficult to tell when someone has Coronavirus due to the 2 week incubation period still possessing the capabilities to spread the virus Its likely that they dont want to lull people into a false sense of security|0 Sorry man We are talking about how dirty Carnaval is in Brazil People basically only care about alcohol kisses and sex often unprotected With a serious epidemic taking over the world Carnaval in Brazil is a very bad idea The cities of Rio de Janeiro So Paulo and Salvador are the most crowded with tourist this time of the year and therefore the places with increased chances of start the coronavirus cicle here in Brazil|0 We need to open source a lot of the tech involved so that anyone can produce a ventilator Awesome this is happening|1 That sounds horrible tbh Some of those cruise ship rooms are tiny and its not like you get full run of the ship Youre basically locked in that room if you get quarantined I think Id rather sit at the DMV for a week|0 lol fuck my life|0 They will transmit it to others thats the problem|0 I dont want to put his ass on blast infront of everyone He may have made a genuine mistake|0 The USA is a completely different kettle of fish you think the president is the one in power but no Here if something truly needs to be done and some good decisions have been made it can be done and not blocked or drawn out The USA is so complex it makes your head hurt thinking about how they even keep the lights on figuratively day to day|1 80 of the cases are mild which would probably mean a strong flu Its the other 20 that are serious cases and require hospitalization|1 Yeah we are taking a break too Especially since our kids go to childcare there while we work out Luckily its relativelynice out so weve been able to do some walking|1 THIS COMMENT IS WRONGYour comment is completely wrong Your numbers are for hospital beds Countries have a much smaller number of ICU beds And the real limiting factor for treating Coronavirus is the number of respirators that each country has The reason Italy is having such high death rates is because they do not have nearly enough respirators to treat everyone who needs one They are forced to let many people die because they dont even have the equipment to try to help them|0 I agree with the last part but theres a relatively close relationship between the govt and academia particularly with funding Our govt is not a technocracy so we dont expect them to make scientific progress And lawmakers can hardly keep abreast of it I think relying on academics is important but making their knowledge more publicly accessible is even more important The ivory tower is a very real thing and the recent granting of public access to COVID19 research is one small step toward demolishing it|1 Fuck this country USA does not give a shit about their people Let it burn|0 I would put your foot down Its not worth exposure|0 They tell us young people who are not in a risk group to dont even bother with testing dont even try going to a hospital Were just supposed to stay at home and selfquarantine They rely on the young peoples diligence but everyone is still going out and only a few are worriedx200BI know that in the city Im in a heavily infected area we have 50 hospital beds that are capable of providing care for severe cases and that can only be maxed up to 60 There are about 130k people living in the city|1 I completely agree Its the not knowing part that scares me more Just tell me whether Ill be okay or I need to be extra extra cautious and maybe take a few days off|0 If the US shut everything down like China millions will be fucked Cant work cant afford to stay home especially if they arent even sick Most businesses cant lose a month of revenueIsnt that whats happening in China anyways|1 Pure projection Perhaps China is capitalizing on a golden pr opportunity after they LIED TO THE WORLD about this virus severity They covered up the myocarditis They are threatening to cut off supplies to the United States of AmericaI literally do not care about the moral high ground as defined by you or any other individualI place blame on us politicians only because they did not see the non stop stream of BULLSHIT coming from the peoples republic leadership This political entity practices ethnic cleansing and involuntary organ harvesting from dissenters Keep defending them as they dance on your elders corpses|0 Real mvp for clarifying info as opposed to making it sound bad Take my meager updoot friend|0 This sub has turned into pretty much nothing but panic and overreaction|1 I got the feeling we should read every 2nd letter or something|1 Wonder if Trudeau and his wife had a hard time getting tested and treated|0 Twitter doesnt do anything about active death threats and rape threats so I doubt they will do anything about this douchesnozzel|0 The short answer is our government only cares about the rich which is why we dont have national health care|1 Good luck|1 What cuts|0 Best answer|1 Well bankrapcy is a real possibility for going into hospital in the USA|1 You know whats truly a week away from being a week away in the USItalylevel collapse in the entire country|0 Watching it continue to unfold I dont want to think told you so Its unproductive Im just trying to further conversions surrounding quarantine Meanwhile Im wondering what Ill do to occupy myself during said quarantine I have a friend in Italy bored out of their mind|0 These are hollow I told you sos for me because all of these unprepared people are a threat to our health and stability|0 Im telling you it was really bad this year There were some kids are his school that got strep and the fluat the same time Literally a mothers nightmare I just assumed they got this years strain wronglike really wrong It also hit us the week before Christmas break which felt early|0 The government likes being in control and having you have to bend your knee and depend on themThats why|1 not sure why youre downvoted youre right that SARS 2 electric boogaloo will beat AIDS soon|0 Google translateThe coronavirus emergency has drastically changed our habits This is reflected in the environment around us In fact good news comes from Venice where the water of the canals usually cloudy appears limpid and transparent so much so that fish and the seabed can be seen The images that testify to this change have been posted on the Facebook group Clean Venice Incredible images of the Rio dei Ferali behind San Marco square usually cloudy Nature reclaims its spaces Less traffic less discharges we can read in the caption accompanying the photos As regards the clarity the absence of traffic that moves the sediments is certainly the cause of this miracle from the tropical sea The reduced discharges and the water exchange of the tides instead benefit the quality of the waters explained the user who posted the photos in the comments|1 For sure it has probably already happened|1 Thats so scary I wonder if the families know I am scared shitless for my elderly loved ones I cant imagine knowing they were stuck someplace so irresponsible For a nursing home to not even have a plan for this is absolute insanity|0 Are you sure or are you just speculating|1 Does it take a flaming liberal to be able to read this charthttpswwwcbpporgsitesdefaultfilesatomsfiles11320povf1pnghttpswwwcbpporgsitesdefaultfilesatomsfiles11320povf1pngMan the changes our country went through from 80 to 88 really ushered in a golden age sorry gilded age|0 Using your logic we can unequivocally blame the US for HIV|0 Moscow Idaho Was just in clarkston and even Costco is picked clean|1 Congratulations on getting into med school Thats awesome I appreciate the information Im still finishing my undergrad in Behavioural Neuroscience Again thanks for taking the time I learned a good amount|1 Its better to divide the number of deaths by the number of recovered Better to overestimate|1 Antibodydependent enhancementAntibodydependent enhancement ADE occurs when nonneutralizing antiviral proteins facilitate virus entry into host cells leading to increased infectivity in the cells Some cells do not have the usual receptors on their surfaces that viruses use to gain entry The antiviral proteins ie the antibodies bind to antibody Fc receptors that some of these cells have in the plasma membrane The viruses bind to the antigen binding site at the other end of the antibody PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 I want to know the split of this posts upvotes How many of them are from people who supported Trump and how many of them are from people wanting it to seem like there are more of those people abandoning him|1 Dengue Ebola Lassa fever Marburg are all virus that seem to thrive in tropical weather yet are virtually unheard of in cold weather You are not entitled to alternate facts|0 Basically yes Dont worry every government thinks the people are stupidJust look at the Dutch government which has STILL NOT OFFICIALLY DISCLOSED THAT THE VIRUS IS TRANSMITTABLE IN THE INCUBATION STAGETheyre basing their quarantine on symptomatics here Its a fucking disasterAlso in this case the Dutch people are about as docile as you can get Dodos to the slaughter would probably be an apt comparison to the national mindset right now I|1 we are only REPORTING 341 across Canada because we are not testing the tens of thousands of others that are already infected virus has been spreading in canada since January and we failed to prepare|0 WHO does not do pandemics anymorenomorepandemicshttpsnewsmbcomph20200224whosaysitnolongerusespandemiccategorybutvirusstillemergency I guess were cured Yay|1 So you have a reason to think that or just wild speculation like youve been doing so far|1 Its horrible Im danish and weve all been told that we are too deep to test everyone and therefor we should act as if we all were contagiousNormally I like to follow Trump and enjoy all his small harmless screwups but this is one of those times I really hope he lucks out Thousands og innocent americans will likely die because of that incompetent old manBest of luck to you all|1 No Only mortgages |0 the point of a trial run can be anything you want it to beput 400 cash in a homeless persons hands every month Then you start having a little trial going on that you can conduct yourself in your city|1 If students are found to have a forehead temperature of 375 Celsius or higher an ear temperature of at least 38 Celsius or a respiratory condition such as coughing or nonallergic runny nose Pan said parents should take the initiative and ask for their children to stay home reassuring them that students who stay home because of these symptoms will not be listed as absentSeems like they were testing from homeschool and kids who had respiratory symptoms or fever were asked to stay home Thats good on them|1 It probably came to Geneva and now he is scared|0 Oh my god Its just like in the movies|1 Hospitals are going to be completely swamped Best bet is to stock up on a few basics especially something to reduce extreme fever and keep lung mucus down Good list here httpnemosbasecampcomcoronavirusoutbreakthingstobuybeforepanicbreaksout|1 Who cares they cant see your face They insulted no one Wear your mask|0 In times like this I hope that when Im an old person that people show respect like thisGreat stuff from the guy who put that note out|1 because US is a broken country technical who take xray cannot say shit about result doctor do it over mail or worse|0 I have a friend who was in Atlanta for a conference two weekends ago and who is sick right nowGranted so far she seems to be just regular sick as are a ton of other people at work flu season after all But heres hoping she doesnt bring ncov to my cityEspecially because if she did I almost certainly will get it if I havent already which I probably havent because I have shown no illness symptoms and have been working from home since last week Tuesday|0 You could save space in your pantry by just buying some electrolyte tablets|1 Sanders has been saying this for years interestingly enough|1 This quote from Albert Camus The Plague does a nice job of capturing the recklessness and lack of imagination displayed by those around youhttpsimgurcomaPpZ9cmk|1 My coworkers who are intelligent and fairly progressive people keep saying its just a flu These people mock antivaxxers and flat earthers but deny this How can you hear every scientist on the planet saying youre wrong and still keep going|0 I live in South Texas and have heard welleducated people that might consume a little too much Fox news describing this as media sensationalism So my natural response is You do realize that Italy closed Closed Like not open for business And Spain followed suit Did the media sensationalize that|1 They are overwhelmed and they are basically triaging cases although the triage criteria may be wrong in the case of a disease like COVID19 I suspect that if testing becomes widespread in the US we will find thousands of cases It would be awesome if someone had a home test similar to HIV tests|1 Thats generally how it goes Itd be unbelievably tragic if one of potus family fell victim to this horrible disease It would be such a sad case|0 Sorry dont know But the study has been linked dozens of times on here|0 What if the emergency rooms stop taking Coronavirus patients and send them to empty stadiumsmallshotels to receive basic care without real doctors We keep imagining ourselves going to the hospital with this virus but we might be stuck dealing with it in some lonely makeshift hospital because we cant stop treating everything that is filling up our emergency rooms every other time of our lives|0 666Ok thenHashtag being the number symbol grinds my gears|1 Sharing is fine until it really matters then not|1 I knew this would happen but Im still sad|0 This chinese fuck is a piece of dog shit Him and all his fucking family should be removed from USA forever|0 I was litteraly thinking fucking idiot before reading your comment|0 This is actually the attitude of most of the Middle East theyre not taking it seriously at all and no one thinks nCoV19 would affect them The governments there are pretty pathetic with their response|0 Just curious what your symptoms were a family member of mine has had night sweats vomiting body aches coughing up weird stuff and a bunch of other things for the last 3 days Scary thing is were in a location that has no reported cases|0 I feel bad for people whose jobs dont have any kind of telecommuting option Wheres the US government on this RhetoricalOther countries have made it illegal for people to be evicted or to have their utilities shut off during quarantines or lockdowns understanding that some people are forgoing income|0 OK Big Hotel dudeLook Im not saying that airBnB hasnt caused a ton of problems but just like Uber its forcing an ancient industry to improve Theres definitely a negative impact on real estate though which I understand|1 Honestly i started to feel like although the Government is surely to be blamed for inaction But the people themselves not taken this seriously is the main issueHow many really care until now and not learn from the mistakes from Asia And the majority still not willing to sacrifice a little of freedom and do more hygiene to contain it I feels like the people in this subreddit is the minority that actually taking this seriouslyThe majority of the population has themselves to blame for still thinking it is just flu|1 Rabies virus 100 deadly without prophylactic shots Very hard to catch as you have to get bitten by the vector|0 Thats pretty sobering|1 Yes Tell her to still take care of herself as if shes not better yet It could just be a normal cold but it never hurts to be cautious rest and hydrate She sounds like she at least has a health advantage|1 My daughter posed an interested question about this Corona virus from China How do we not know that the Chinese products we buy from Amazon are not also a source of this infection|1 Its crazy to me that have waited almost two months into this for start seriously considering autopsy reports as valuable scientific data I dont want to get too political here but I think pathologists in other countries would be screaming at the top of their lungs to start that process almost immediately once a novel virus outbreak was identified|1 Who doesnt wash hands after pooping I find that hard to believe|0 Crazy to think theyve tested more people on a single cruise ship than the entire United States|1 I have a combination of high blood pressure and hiatal hernia Ibuprofen could be a death sentence for me regardless of covid19 infection Tylenol or nothing which is a shame because ibuprofen worked great for my arthritis acetaminophen not so much|1 What will happen in more time Lol Im not sure what my question here has to do with a measurement of time|1 Hush this is the happy imaginings subthread|1 All i saw was specualtions based on SARS and the virus structure with regards to survivability outside The consensus seems to be somewhere between 72 hours and 5 days in ideal conditions Less in worse conditions|1 Lack of empathy doesnt excuse assholes We can still live in a way that respects peoples humanity without feeling each persons pain|0 We dont know a lot about this virus yet but we can learn from the past I was enlightened by watching documentaries about the influenza outbreak of 1918 The H1N1Spanish Flu It also showed what mistakes the government doesnt want to repeat and other things they are repeating Regardless what I learned was when kids stay home in so many households a parent has to stay home This could be for an extended amount of time Then income stops coming in Fear of the sickness and mounting debt loss of income etc Society starts to fall apart Dont get me wrong this isnt the end of the world Many hopefully most of us will get through this But we have to be real about the scope of everything if we are going to make it through The children arent as easily affected That gives them the benefit of being allowed to have life carry on as was kinda normal for them But without knowing how children catch or spread the virus theres also a counterargument to be made Just dont jump to be so critical of any person of leadership right now if you can help it I dont think any of us could imagine the fear weight and anxiety of being in the position right now where every step or move you make changes the amount of people who die from this huge pain in all of our asses Hats off to those in charge right now through this all The entire human population of earth has a common enemy right now Lets not politicize this point blame etc Lets try to solve this problem as one world united by a common goal The will to survive and live past this tragedy Stay safe everyone|0 That sounds awesome Thats essentially what I imagine when someone mentions them too|1 Can we swap Trudeau for her pretty pls|1 Donate money or your time to Meals On Wheels instead Why try to reinvent something that is already well established|1 Trust me Malaysia is a special case|1 Yeh Wuhan did the right thing Just worried about places like India now as they dont have the same control|1 As someone whos in the same area and eats at food trucks and street vendors yall are the best and we hope to see ya back out after this blows overstay safe|1 Still ticking along like business as usualAnd thats exactly what the healthcare system wants and needs If everybody with cold symptoms started crowding ERs to get tested for COVID wed be in deep shit The CDC recommendation to stay home if youre sick washing your hands avoid travel etc still rings true|0 Nice For transparency it would be nicer to hear more details of what went wrong|1 Look it up youll be shocked to learn the rest of the country has to show up in person on a single day to stand in a very long line to fill out a ballot WA has it very very good|1 As far as I know there is only one kit from one company that is approved for the extraction There are other methods for the RNA extraction and kits from other companies but they are not approved|1 Frank wouldnt be able to get enough hand sanitizer to be pure at this point|1 were all gonna die|0 uelectricminkI think WHO publishes levels of travel warnings Would that help|1 Thats silly you need a unified body Thats why the usa is fucking this up|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Dont go to the big stores Check out small convenience stores dollar stores gas stations Our Walmart and big grocery stores have been stripped clean but the little local convenience store and the gas station are still fully stocked They even have small packs of toilet paper Keep in mind that fully stocked might mean five or ten of each thing so dont be a jerk and buy it all Leave some for the next person who might be in the same situation as you|1 Welp that makes me feel really underprepared lol I have about 2 weeks and thats banking on water and electricity still working|1 Dude seriously by next week most everyone will probably have it Imagine how many employees are making food right now who are asymptomatic Imagine how many store employees are asymptomatic Imagine how many public transports are COVERED Imagine how many ATMs PIN pads etc All it takes is one person whos asymptomatic to start a chain We NEED to shut things down No excuse no reason Please understand how this will end up This is Italy but with waaaaay more people moving waaaay more frequently|0 No it doesnt It transmits but with a much reduced R0 value compared to COVID19 If COVID19 had a 1 R0 like MERS has wed all be celebrating|1 I cannot really give you an answer based of facts and 100 true information But I can give you my personal opinionThe death rate in Italy is high because we have a lot of old people yes The highest death rate is in Lombardy the most polluted region in Italy I think that this may affect the general health level and I believe that in lombardy there are more people with lungs problems due to air pollution Another reason why death rate is so high in my opinion is that Italian health system tend to keep anyone alive I mean that even if there is a desperate case they keep himher plugged to the machines thats also because of the church I think that now in this situation hospital cannot afford keeping alive people who destined to die soon So i believe theyre just unplugging the desperate cases and say it was corona virus But once again this is just my opinion|0 Dont like DeWine at all but holy shit is his administration a god send for this catastrophe|0 Yeah Id really love a drivethru system here too|1 Exactly Now its in broad daylight that the person employing you only cares about money you and yours be fucked|0 Whoa Hoo well done|1 Im right there with you the ignorance on this issue is one of the most baffling things Ive ever experienced I dont think I know a single person in my personal life who is taking this as serious as it needs to be Godspeed to your dad I cant appreciate what hes doing enough having to risk his life when if we all did our part it wouldnt have had to come to this My thoughts are with your family right now|0 Meanwhile in the rest of the worldhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSickleaveOthercountriesAt least 145 countries provide paid sick days for short or longterm illnesses with 127 providing a week or more annually 98 countries guarantee one month or more of paid sick days60|0 I dont want to be grammar nazi butquite|0 Not sure maybe security Or there were multiple reportsleaks out of china a few weeks ago where factory managers were told to turn everything on to use power so the regional power usage would show falsely that they were getting back to work|0 You didnt ultimately in democracies everyone has the government their society deserves Still if US took it more seriously it might have made an impact on other governments My countrys politicians and celebrities still claim its just flu and give the US as an example that anyone having objections is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist because theres nothing to worry about Im certainly not angry at the US but a bit disappointed|0 On the bright side if you are from China and have recovered from coronavirus without lung damage you cant get infected again so go for itEdit Just to be clear s just joking|1 My boss isnt taking it seriously either When I asked him on Monday what his thoughts were about things it was just the usual Yorkshire mentality of well we just crack on dont weEven though I can work at home and would quite welcome it hed think I was being overdramatic if I offered to The most theyve done is put posters around the place telling people to wash their hands properly|1 Too many Americans will just YOLO this into a 65 4K|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Yep Its just the flu People in Wuhan need to get back to work|0 Holy shit|0 That is what they want you to think|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I guess it was a bit of both sorry Here are thw Qs simplifiedQuestion 1 Which is more likelyTheory 1 the idea that this polybasic cleavage site could be a result of shortchain H2H transmission among several individuals in their dealings with wildlife acquiring the right genes along the way to finally optimally infect and stay in the human populationOrTheory 2 this polybasic cleavage site may have already been present in a virus in a nonhuman host pangolin bat etc and was picked up when handling wildlife on a possible oneoff animaltohuman jumpQuestion 2 how does this conflict with other studies I have read on SARS that make the case that a SARS mutation is rather rare due to its lengthy genome and some highly conserved genes Holmes and Rambaut 2004Question 3 what are the odds of this virus being a recombinant of a bat and a pangolin|0 Yes not everyone dies during an earthquake or tsunami but were all affected if in the vicinity This one is no different its a global emergencyWhat I dont get is that stocks will fall and rise again even during World Wars and Spanish Flu Western governments are incredibly short sighted I guess they dont plan to be in for more than 12 terms|0 Pretty low out of 5000|1 Yeah 100 theres a mask shortage right now and all the scummy people reselling them for 10x the price suck but im not gonna lie to you and tell you im not gonna use them I go out a lot and if keeping myself protected is selfish then oh well Rather be selfish than get the disease and spread it to my older family members who are at way higher risk|0 If he likes his car to look good thats fine But most people really dont care and whatever money and effort they put into this crazy exterior upkeep wont ever pay back If your car is your hobby then by all means have fun But I dont buy the argument that the car looking like new is somehow an inherent need I drive a 15yearold car and looks OK even though I did nothing special to the exterior No rust no peeling overcoat or anything like that I replaced the headlamps because the originals had their plastic lens deteriorated beyond repair and it was absorbing lots of light the front of the lamp got very hot now its barely warm to touchSo while the analogy is understandable the underlying premise is ludicrous Nobody needs to care for their car like that I wash mine every few weeks at the touch less car wash Thats all|1 That logic is dangerous Telling people to not wear masks doesnt tell them that its not bad Also I hate to break it to people but it isnt bad Its concerning Its really bad for certain at risk people But for 80 of people itll be a minor inconvenience Theres also the fact that misguided mask wearing results in shortages of masks for those who actually need them both professionally and for health reasons A lot of people talk about herd mentality and that people cant be trusted to wear them when sick You dont solve a problem by throwing everything at it You solve the problem People in the west dismiss mask wearing as stupid because they dont understand WHY it works and WHEN its important They see it as a dumb overreaction by paranoid asians painting a picture of how people perceive it dont actually consider asians paranoid That means that they also dismiss mask wearing when they SHOULD be wearing them If more people understood that you wear the mask when YOURE sick to prevent YOU from spreading YOUR germs theyd realize the benefits and stop stigmatizing it It also helps to identify people who are sick and allow you to respond accordingly aka keep appropriate distance while also being able to interact with them more effectively because you know theyve got a handle on their cold as opposed to running away from everyone with a sniffle Theres a major problem here and its that the majority of people arent taking this seriously because the majority of people arent impacted seriously You have the person that gets sick Experiences mild symptoms Then thinks this cant possibly be coronavirus its too mild then they go out do errands and get someone at risk sick who subsequently dies Or they realize it is coronavirus and dismiss all of these precautions as ridiculous because its not that bad You cant treat everyone like children and lie to them in an effort to get them to do something Theyll eventually clue in and itll backfire because they wont believe you anymore when it does count 80 of the people infected show mild or no symptoms The death rate is extremely worrisome right now because MOST people with it arent being diagnosed because its not worth being diagnosed because they dont even realize theyre infected Thats a problem 1 it causes panic for no reason and manipulated the data to suit a specific narrative 2 it results in people dismissing minor symptoms as something else because they dont realize whats actually going on Were trying to carry water in a strainer right now You cant contain something with a rate of transmission this high Its impossible You are far better off focusing resources and efforts on being proactive and protecting at risk individuals Almost every recorded death in the US is at the same nursing home People should be freaking out about that but instead people are losing their minds over nonsense worried about society collapsing Nursing homes or anything involving old people should be freaking the fuck out This virus makes its way into a nursing home and if theyre not prepared it will spread very fast and wipe out a lot of them Death rate right now for people above 80 is 15 Death rate for people below 40 is 02 4049 is 04 Thats statistically insignificant 60 is a serious danger zone though and we should be focusing our attention there instead of derailing the entire economy to protect people who are barely at more risk than from the seasonal flu Every time I say this though I get attacked for not being worried or concerned We SHOULD be concerned We just shouldnt be losing our minds For that matter while were at it though we should be taking the flu way more seriously and people need to be allowed to fucking stay home when theyre sick regardless of whether theres a pandemic going on or not|0 Bezos official policy for dealing with the coronavirus is that his employees should consider giving each other sick days Hes the richest person in the world and basically is a greedy cunt|0 Id be a little nervous if I were a manager right now If an infected employee is forced to go to work they might get angry and intentionally try to infect management|0 Goddamn|0 You keep using the libertarian 101 version of economics which is cute but irrelevant Plenty of hand sanitizer can be produced at around double its usual price no need for 400 bottles the supply curve is no where near that steep You clearly do not understand how production decisions are made in a corporation because you have never actually worked at one But suffice to say allowing prices to temporarily spike to ridiculous levels is no more going to convince 3M to build a new plant than a large increase in demand at a fixed price would You are using the storybook versions not how things work in the real worldThe historical record of rationing in the US is solid Puerto Rico was not a rationing case it was a government supplied goods case Big difference In WWII goods were provided by the private industry but regulated via ration books This is the kind of rationing we needAs to people stealing Or a delivery worker Or anyone who can get their hands on the shipments and influence them why would this be any less applicable to a box of hand sanitizer worth 15000 because of price rationing It would not You have no case you do not know what you are talking about kindly drop the issue|1 I hope those things include shutting nonessential businesses banning all unnecessary travel and enforced quarantines Time to shut this shit down by shutting the shit down|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgyr72drhelenchuwhoviolatedcdcgagordershouldbefk7wrthcontext3 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Great comment summing up all the idiocy out there|1 They will hide it as best they can and go on like its business as usual|1 Incoming dumb question Why do we want additional testing What I mean by this is what benefit do we actually gain from updated numbers Were already in National emergency and panic mode How would we benefit from people being tested rather than just assuming its out there in large numbers and we need all hands on deck to work on treatments and slow infectivity|1 Im not the Person you were talking to but my kids are at York one in public one in catholic and I told them a couple of weeks ago that they werent returning to school after March break I could see that the end of March is when the explosion of cases will happen They know that the illness probably wont affect them too much but it is more important that they do not spread it I unfortunately have to continue to work single mom and I work for the government in a very publicfacing job where I interact with thousands of people in a day So I expect to get it and pass it to my kids I dont want them to pass it around Fortunately they are old enough to not need child care and we have unlimited high speed internet and lots of books and board games to keep them occupied Plus we live out in the country so lots of forests to explore I hope the schools shut down that would put a lot of oreassure on a lot of other government agencies and businesses to also suspend activities Someone has to go first though nobody wants to be the one taking all the initial flack|0 But not to worry Today Cheetolini said that the heat of April will kill the virus Everything is fine s|0 Let me guess This is related to that government official who killed himself|0 Having been through several hurricanes Carla Andrews Katrina Gustav and others I have had the same weird sense of anticipation and fear before It is the unnerving and surreal calm before the storm where the weather is beautiful and sunny yet knowing that in short period of time a raging ugly storm will soon permanently alter your life and the lives of family friends and strangers It is also knowing that people will die including possibly you family and friends in the near future but being resigned to the fact that there are factors you cannot control outside what have been prepared for My wife and I have prepped even our church is prepping still there are no guarantees|0 I walked in to the office today and heard someone telling the guy in charge that you are looking better today Yeah I dont know what this is doctors said I tested neg for the flu they dont know what it is just some kind of virusI left the building immediately|1 Yes Nonessential staff are those that are not patientfacing I can do everything with a phone and computer I changed over from bedside nurse to case management six months ago Wish I could be back on the frontlines|1 And I have Asian family members who are paranoid about adding their hotel numbers together and giving certain numbers of gifts to see if its lucky or unlucky Move along yourself|1 People are going to lose their insurance as well Imagine not having insurance in a pandemic|0 Calm down you dont need to store water and drinking it out of the tap is still going to be fine If you are really worried about about it go get one of the filters that attach to the faucet There isnt going to be a breakdown of services so your water power and other services will still work Ferrets can catch the regular flu but if you wash your hands and dont sneeze or cough on them they should be fine|1 So I turned 35 this week Its 10 more dangerous mortality wise compared to the flu correct|0 Do you need a 6 month supply of itI think youd be surprised at how quickly a household goes through toilet paper when you have a wife and one or more teenage girls Looking back at when I was a single guy living alone a years supply of TP back then would be enough to get my current household through maybe 6 weeksAlso TP is cheap and it doesnt go bad Why take the risk We dont know how supply chains will be interrupted|0 Its comments like these that remind me how complicated the information age is As positive as it is for modern humans to have such a high level of connectivity it can also exacerbate panic behaviorYou need to take a few deep breaths and try getting your news from a different source than rCoronavirus|1 There are several stories out there about how hard it is for Germans to even get tested when they are clearly at a high risk of having been infected So Im not surprised|0 I hope pleased called her crazy in the comments|1 the worst is yet to come finally someone telling the truth|0 Yes receptors can upregulate and downregulate based on environmental stimuli This is the basis of building up a tolerance in fact I dont know if this applies to ACE2 and cigarette smoke or if it does how quickly it responds|1 Yall might note that our entire government might have done a lot better if the Democrats were not trying to overturn the election with their Plan B of impeachment based on falsified information The article in question was written within a couple of months of Trump arriving in the White House The Russian Dossier was still being touted as the smoking gun Where has the Congress been on this Pelosi |0 Ozone is toxic to humans Good lord some of the posts here |1 Thats crazy hand sanitizer has been gone for weeks where I live|1 Love this Petition to officially rename it please|1 Thank you for your insight stay strong and keep the faith that Italy is just about to turn the corner as your countrywide lockdown begins to show effectivenessI think a lot of young people in other countries are getting an incorrect message that they cant become ICU sick from COVID19 Ive personally read through reports out of Italy and Wuhan and according to their data that isnt the case Younger adults are less likely to die but they can become ICU sick and required advanced forms of treatment the same as older individualsIMO its very important to get accurate information out to younger individuals that view this as some sort of old people virus|1 Thats also due to quarantining theyre not all in the hospital in critical condition|0 I just made pork tenderloins with a cherry sauce topped with some browned shallots I already ate some but Im thinking about going back and eating some again Solidarity|1 Claiming that everyone is infected will drop the mortality rate significantly|0 I am all for fighting for life but this is too little too late If you are going to do this we are a month late|0 Still okay in Seattle Picked up a large bottle of soap to refill our pump bottles Grocery store still has most things Store limits on soap but one large bottle will last us a long time|1 Mine too Except she goes out to play cards|1 This I have 5000person deductible myself or family get sick we would avoid seeing a doctor unless extremely ill and then we would go to a regular doctor not the ER ER visit is 5000 just filling out the paperwork cost goes up as they actually check you and you are billed for every check they do|0 What Im looking for is far I more detailThere were 7 deaths from the 705 by yesterdayThere have been several more diagnosed after they were flown home to their own countries How many of the original passengers crew eventually got CV19Ive seen a lot that over 300 of the 705 were asymptomatic did they stay that way or were symptoms simply slow to develop Whats the breakdown of disease impact who had no symptoms who barely needed paracetamol etcAlso while I agree that the age profile skews older everyone was also healthy enough to go on the cruise in the first place Thats going to have a downward pressure on mortality|1 No what I mean is you pull the 2 figure out of your ass Thats what I mean by objectively worse|0 Its amazing to me how little people really know about whats been going on I have also been here since the early days I have never been a tin foil hat wearer but this shit is real The U S government is a joke I may not like the president but he is only one guy This is a travesty on all levels Thank god I have this sub I am ahead of the game I might still get it but at least I know its here and I am as ready as I could be Love you guys |1 Destiny 2 is free on Steam|1 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 No they did fail and pretty badlyThey checked the similarity between short fragments of the spike protein from nCoV19 and the whole protein sequence of HIV and found similarities They concluded in the paper that all of these inserts have identitysimilarity to amino acids residues in key structural proteins of HIV1 which is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature Thats bad science If you compare a short fragment of a sequence to a different much longer sequence its pretty likely that youll see a region of overlap due to random chance The smaller the fragment you use or the longer the sequence you compare it to the higher the chances that random overlap occurs This is pretty basic stuff we covered it in 2nd year undergrad courses They could have done a comparison to pretty much any organism and found some region that overlapped with the short fragment they were looking for They did not account for random chance causing the overlap which they should haveFinding similar sequences in unrelated organisms tells you nothing about the function of those sequences in nCoV19 theyre too short to be functional on their own and would affect the function of the overall protein in completely different ways It was an awful paper and totally scientifically unsound|1 this sucks because i always wore and used them even before the virus outbreak and now Im obligated to stop because of so many people overbuying out of panic|0 Well most people are mocking it and anyone trying to belatedly prepare I dont think anyones really taking it seriously yet|0 I really dont understand how they can come to the conclusion that risk of continued spread is low based on other countries Other countries show exactly the oppositeBtw the translation is slightly wrong They dont mention risk of a pandemic That statement is concerning further spread|0 Maybe even monthly We could call it some sort of dividend of freedom|1 The greatest risk is the plumes of aerosolized particles that are suspended in the air for several minutes after a toilet flush I guess try not to breathe when inside a public restroom Can be very tough|0 Pretty sure a handgun would also kill a virus in humans|0 Its so very predictable I hope we can rise up in solidarity and cooperation|1 The issue isnt money Its time Could they build labs thatll do it Sure Its going to take months though to build the new machines and buildings when the capability to run millions of tests a week already exists Thats just wasting time If we still need it at that point were screwed anyway Its a once in a lifetime event There is no reason for the government to have that capability on a daily basis Proper planning isnt about having the capability to do it all yourself Its about knowing who to call to get it done Sure the testing isnt where they want it to be Why Because the government gets in its own way It doesnt matter how much capacity we have to test when the CDC guidelines still only allow public hospitals to test people that meet certain criteria I mean if you want the government to build labs to do all the testing themselves then whats next Building factories to produce nose swabs masks and hazmat suits Ventilators and hospital beds Im all for using whatever test is best Those arent being produced by governments though Government gets in the way of innovation There are private companies all the world working night and day to come up with better tests They have the technical know how and the equipment to streamline the process Not some government researcher who knows nothing about mass manufacturing|1 Yet many governments refuse to close schools businesses and cancel events Thanks for the hypocrisy|0 omg thank you so much|1 I dont know honesty Theres a big irrational part of me that would jump with joy if HK decides to lock itself down from China for real because this is scary no two ways about it But I would be shocked if HK government accepts this demand which means just more fighting and tension in an already dangerous situation|0 WHO also declines to call this pandemic a pandemic lmao|1 Look what China did supermarket supplied by government and military retail logistics worker gets 3x salary and protective gear compensated by government plus some volunteers here and thereBut its never gonna work in the US because socialism bad|0 I am in contact with a guy who lives I Wuhan he said 3 drs passed away last week all in their 20s There is misinformation for sure idk if its the media or China not releasing the real info|0 Less worried about the runners than about the spectators Probably morevofva risk there More closely packed and you are not going to attempt a marathon even when having a mild illness But you might go watch with a bad cough or slight fever|0 Hopefully hell reconsider A lot can happen before then Just look at all that has changed in the last two weeks|0 Yes I didnt want to say this bc i wasnt sure about the percentage Thanks for adding|1 There IS a double peak in the US of outpatient visits due to influenzalike illness data this year peaks mid December and end of January just not visible in the confirmed influenza hospitalization data The timing probably doesnt work for the second peak to be Covid19 though it would be rising rather than declining if that were the casehttpswwwcdcgovfluweeklyindexhtm|0 If they have them I hope a very strong financial assistance package is passed No idea how were going to pay for it though This could set us back a number of years|1 infectionsThis should be the top commnet|1 Okay maybe you arent from the States but in the US we have different levels of government Theres the Federal government which is what was being discussed State government and the local Local would contain County and City Every level has things that they are responsible for National Parks would be the only thing you described that would fall under the Federal Government It might be different where youre from|1 Yeah explain to them that even a totalitarian regime doesnt waste copious amounts of money on purpose This has done major damage to their economy|0 Im so upset right now A month or so from now JT will realize this was a missed opportunity to save many lives|1 Us students are crying right now|0 Is there anything you might be able to bring your grandparents like maybe some puzzles or books to keep them occupied if your grandma loves to be active I know there are loads of youtube videos such as yoga to help stay active even when youre cooped up Regular phone calls might also help the worst part of staying inside is the loss of social contact so encourage other members of your family to give them calls when they can Itll really help|1 If a fireman dies in a fire there is a zero percent chance their spouse or children will die in the same fire Many people are willing to subject themselves to a certain level of risk but subjecting you family to that same level of risk is absolutely unacceptable to them|0 Why is it better to test people with symptoms Like I get the rich people getting priority part is bad but wouldnt it be more pressing to test those without symptoms since we dont have a treatment that changes much if it is Coronavirus vs if you are equally sick with just pnemonia andor bronchitis|0 Me living alone barely used any My sister with her household of 6 goes through a lot|0 There is a 2 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200415 215109 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202004152021510920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgvh1xdonttraveltousasayswedishprofessorinfk8v301context3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffgvh1x2Fdonttraveltousasayswedishprofessorin2Ffk8v3012F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020041520213A513A0920UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fgvh1xInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Doomers when China is closing said hospitals They gave up Everyone is dead|0 I think I saw the death rate for men over the age of 80 was something like 14 That means that the vast majority of men over 80 still survive it|0 Id say they werent taking the situation serious until the first few cases had been confirmed They may have been right back then|0 Thank you so much for the detailed response Im glad we have Drs like you on this sub being able to give out factual and crucial information to layman like myself I hope you continue to post here|1 Yes it is that is why I am going to live my life in exactly the same way as I normally do it will never change until other nations are made to increase food hygiene and living standards Problem is its racist to suggest that they do|0 I suspect that if you progressed to the point where you require treatment that you would want to be under medical supervisionRemember that over 80 of cases will recover without any treatment and there are risks associated with folks self medicating|0 Sad laugh noises|1 Well they could be right there is so much going on its possible someone posted and got buried I wasnt complaining they did a good job so far|1 The Chinese government gets a lot of shit and rightly so for locking up people who spread rumours but what should a society do about people who advise using oregano oil against a virus or tell idiots to not vaccinate their kids|0 The WHO Joint Mission report even mentions a secondary attack rate in households of only 310 found in a preliminary study outside Hubei|0 Youre right her case is from a few days ago my mistake Its still pretty concerning for me to hear about community spreading at all|1 You might not like this suggestion but I will let you know as its worth a shot You can try a needle exchange if they have any near you They usually have boxes of alcohol wipes that they give out Some places have mobile vans you can call and they will come to you or meet you somewhere which would be better risk wise as you wouldnt be around as many other possibly infected people You can obviously get needles for your injections if they have your size too they usually carry several sizes Different exchanges have different rules many require you to exchange needles about 11 ratio but the ones in my area WA will also give you a limited amount of needles even if you dont have any to exchange I havent been to any during the pandemic so I dont know how theyre holding up with supplies But like I said its worth a try if you have trouble finding those items|0 I really hope so I was salty when I couldnt read LA Times articles yesterday|1 Ventilators sometimes dont even work because the virus makes oxygen exchange really hard for the lungsSome patients will require the machines that oxygenate the blood outside of the body machines used during open heart surgery and most hospitals have 1 or 2 of those topsSome hospitals have zero|0 Does the medical 111 advice not include the online questionnaireIf that form tells me to self isolate I have been told that I must do so|0 There isnt going to be a one size fits all solution This is just one way to help stem the overflow situation|1 The left controls media and censors the right No she is just a typical leftist that pushes fake news in TheDonaldWhy the fuck would anyone pay attention to the BS youre spewing|0 Nah man China wouldnt want Canada to do that therefore it wont happen|0 USA has 260 cases and were not even trying yet Give us a couple of weeks and well be 1USA USA COUGH USA|1 What else would we expect from a leader who gets his orders from a foreign government intent on creating chaos|0 You can always use canned food And the masks work for woodworking and raking leaves rightI doubt the masks are the way to go though I got a boxI bought some hospital grade sanitizerdisinfectant wipes figuring that might be more effective for all sorts of germs|1 Why not include the possibility of the virus not have spread there There is no evidence to suggest otherwise|0 Well he shows up after 325 but the actual schedule was initially for 300 at least when I watched them I remover him being very late to the Friday one|1 I agree I appreciate this sub for all the information but I doubt most people are reading the full article and I do think these headlines are aiding in spreading panic|0 Is he a clone of Drumpf The similarities are too large to ignore|0 And some of them probably fuck|0 This terrifies me so much Not for myself but I certainly have family members who are not taking things seriously and I am truly worried for them|1 I have no idea but there was an article from a news source a few days ago saying they were getting involved in fact checking the info China was putting out|0 Good point Like a lot of people in this sub have been saying the stats from outside of China are the ones that will allow for an accurate death rate|1 Youre talking about Iglesia ni Cristo right Isnt that a protestant sectRegardless Im sure you can find the contact information of the leaders in the Internet Might be worth the try|1 Thats because the virus is just a bad case of the flu unless you meet certain risk factors but scared people are terrifyingEven in walking dead the zombies were less of a threat than other surviving people were|0 Nice|1 I live in the south lmao People buy bread and milk|1 I agree 5 million is far fetch but I also believe the numbers we are hearing are no where close to accurate they are also buring multiple bodies at 1 time|0 I just cancelled a trip to Alaska for a race Ive been training for for four months I would have left a week today Im in King County with a wife who works with a lot of community members and two highschoolers Im not worried about my health but theres a chance that Im an asymptomatic infectee I dont want to be patient zero Its a tough pill to swallow|1 good keep the people who still think its not a big deal from spreading it and making it worse|0 Heres an interesting article about current chloroquine production and supply in China httpswwwshinecnbizeconomy2002202403Looks like they are serious about it|1 Not airborne no thank goodness but its aerosol transmission|1 Im not a doctor but I have a stem masters degree and Ive been reading a lot about this stuffIt seems like she would not be at an increased risk Some cancer survivors have to take immunosuppressants because they had to get a transplant as part of their treatment Those people are at higher risk Also covid19 affects the respiratory system and the thyroid is not part of the respiratory system|0 Wow Those are nine words I couldnt have ever guessed that I would see consecutively|1 Be a little careful if youre around Haicang district Nothing to worry about but as girlfriends parents are in government weve been getting snippets of their meetings which discuss data that hasnt yet been made public Haicang is currently seen as the highest risk zone due to a high number of Hubei residents returning this week and next week which is due to travel restrictions being gradually relaxed in Hubeis Huanggang and other regions Haicang also has a generally higher number of people reporting fevers with no illness confirmation than the other districts|0 I just read statistics that said we are currently at 10 infection rate will need to be hospitalized They are hoping to get the numbers down to 1 that is 700000 people with only 300000 beds nationwide|1 Theyve always been the better of the two imo|1 100 Its so sterile and generic Give me a big dirty Southeast Asian city over it for live or travel any day|0 Agreed But I also think they should suspend charging current customers too Im all for goodwill being extended to gain new customers down the road but what about rewarding faithful customers who are going through the same difficult time|1 Are you seriously bringing this up again|0 No I think about usenet drama from 20 years ago|0 I agree but theres no chance they wouldve lost 410 of their population But whatever the math was it was bad enough to justify extreme measures Its also very possible that they didnt know enough about the virus to actually do any serious projections and just assumed the worst which is the best move to make Can you imagine if this was as contagious as it is but with a 1020 CFR|0 Im a few hours from SA and last night our local Sams Club was running low on lots of drycanned foods TP bottled water and was almost completely out of bread The panic buying has begun|0 What makes this event unique is that it is altering everyones way of life in dramatic waysDuring recessions we had hard times but our lives still had a general rhythm and order Birthday parties weddings potlucks Kids went to school adults went to university and you could usually make it to an ER if you broke your leg and then they would fix itI think the last time our daily lives were so drastically altered has to be World War II Young men leaving home and some of them not returning people chipping in with labor or scrap metal or growing victory gardens|0 Damn this is me literally Im off for two weeks after friday though|0 Yep I voted Boris and I still am happy I did that over the traitor Corbyn or Swinson|1 Hindus are drinking cow piss believing it helps Want a glass of that|1 They probably wont feel pretty good if they give it to their parents|0 The thing that has governments and hospitals so concerned over is the exponential growth curve Most people can visualize linear growth but not exponential growth For example Lets say you have a jar with two bacteria The bacteria population doubles every minute and it will take exactly 24 hours to fill the jar About 90 of the jar will suddenly fill up in the last few minutes After 23 hours and 55 minutes have passed the jar will still only be 116 full which still seems pretty empty But as that doubles again and again over the next 5 minutes the jar will be COMPLETELY full In the last minute the jar will go from being 12 full to completely full So as much growth happens in the last minute as the previous 23 hours and 59 minutes combined Currently the number of cases outside of China is tripling every week Cities are expected to go through this type of growth where all of a sudden tens of thousands of people get really sick all at once and it totally overwhelms the hospitals This is what happened in Wuhan Its expected to happen in other cities once the virus reaches a critical mass in those communities Even if its no more deadly than the flu it will still cause a massive disruption if 15 of a large population center with millions of people suddenly get pneumonia all at once The of the population who die from this is currently about 2 but it goes WAY up if the hospitals are swamped and the old folks with pneumonia cant receive treatment|0 Didnt know about that sub After glancing for a bit Id say its not even worth visiting|0 Im the guy in the photo this is correct The face visor whilst good for keeping droplets out of eyes and face was exposed at the back So I decided to put the visor inside a tesco bag and cut the bag so I can see out the front through the visor cellotaping the two together This only really helps if its droplet spread and not airborne but still every little helps|1 Making exams online is not as easy as it sounds For example say you have a closed book exam how do you make sure that book is closed Or if sat at home how do you make sure that the person you think took the exam actually did All that being said dont teach classes with coronavirusSource am assessment expert working for international assessment organisation|1 If they are undetected many of them have such a mild illness they never seek medical treatment If the number of infected increased but deaths stay the same assume many of these 6373 cases DO NOT die then the overall death rate would decrease That is why it is hard to calculate a true mortality rate in the middle of a pandemic|0 Why are the RNA results so poor My understanding is there methodology is as follows1 RT PCR RNA test for inclusion2 repeat RT PCR on known positives based on initial PCR over a period of time and calculate sensitivity based on positives at each timepointBut theyre getting numbers like 60 Does that mean were missing 40 of people with COVID19 That is definitely not what is being reported|1 Car crashes are more dangerous than a pandemic Well then Im definitely never getting into one of your self driving Teslas after hearing you say that|1 Thats definitely gonna make you better Actually did you try proposing that solution to WHO Maybe they didnt think of that yet|1 no whistling or screaming at night while others are trying to sleep or else wake up to a knuckle sammy|0 Cedars Sinai estimates as of March 1 there were over 9000 cases in the US This virus doubles its numbers about every 7 days according to Dr Campbell We could be looking at 35000 cases nationwide right now and testing hasnt gone above 100 per week at the CDC and is way under 100 per day in individual states Shits about to pop off|0 You guys are scaring the piss out of me 1 Ive read the projections from credible sources which all agree the surge in cases will quickly exhaust available ICU bedsventilators in US 2 I am in a highrisk group male 59 quit smoking only nine months ago now just vaping BP16096 untreated prediabeticWhat the fuck should I do Ive been thinking of selfquarantining now of course at huge financial loss I get paid by the day as a news cameraman I get three paid sick days a year Should I just stay the fuck home starting now Or wait 10 days and see if the projections follow I see NO reason why they wont|0 Thank you Ill be sure to check that out D|1 You can talk to a bc health links nurse by dialing 811 After talking to the nurse they may have further directions Hope it helps and get well soon |1 I understand what youre saying and youre technically right Theres obviously going to be less information links threads etcBut thats not how it works when it comes to these searchesWhat I mean when I say you can search anything else is that when you search for a specific thing and then add reddit at the end youre introduced to hundreds of threads and theyre all specifically linking you to redditIf you look up something like Coronavirus reddit youre given 34 links to a few threads on reddit and then a bunch of random mainstream media sites None of which have anything to do with redditThis shouldnt happen Like you said there is obviously going to be less information in general but we can all see with our own eyes that theres hundreds and hundreds of posts here daily No one can deny that So why isnt anything coming up when its searched forBecause censorship|0 Mate get to ER now It is safe to assume that you have it A test is irrelevant right now You need to be in a hospital if you have underlying conditions If youve got a pulse oximeter at home then keep monitoring it frequently If it drops below 90 call an ambulanceI am not a doctor Seek help now|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 For me youd be retarded if you bought supplies above market but hey you get what you pay for|0 Im really lucky I work for a largesuccessful company in the Northeast and they are taking this very seriously Some job descriptions are able to work from home if necessary They are ordering additional IT supplies so that ALL employees have the ability to work from home Supervisors are under strict guidelines to ask any sick employees or employees with a sick family member to stay home No negative impact on sick days and no disruption in pay Im so very proud of my company right now|0 China has some sort of endgame here yeah Kinda like how the USA helped with restoration efforts in Europe after WW2 to boost their economic and political influenceIm very torn about this I appreciate the help immensely but I still hate China for their literal concentration camps and the beginnings of a datafascism|0 Now lets take some of those critical thinking skills youre speaking of and facts and logic everyone on this post is talking aboutLet me preface by saying Ive been following COVID19 since November and have had mental breakdowns from fear of it but since have come to my sensesNow so far since the outbreak started in November 2019 until today there have been 119000 confirmed cases 119000 in roughly 4 months Thats 119000 confirm on a planet of 7 billion Thats 0000017 of the planet Now there are 4200 confirmed deaths thats 00000006 of the human population Not so scary when you put it in perspective rightNow for anyone who doesnt know myself included up to a month again coronavirus has always existed Dont believe me Check the back of your Lysol spray youll find it kills human coronavirus Coronavirus isnt anything new its actually referred to as the common cold Now why is this important Because the new strand of coronavirus or Wuhan flu has been labeled COVID19 Of all confirmed cases in the world none have been labeled COVID19 confirmed All have been coronavirus confirmed Why does that matter Because anyone with the common cold would tested positive for coronavirus virus Do people die from the flu and common cold Absolutely Now it is very possible that COVID19 is a danger sure but look at the stats and facts and youll see everyone is freaking out and blowing this up Especially the mediaOn the bright side everyone is upping their hygiene game which is a win for all Practice healthy habits but if the world was really in danger they wouldnt even let us know about it|0 You must really hate someone to want to subject them to that lol|0 Air Canada reduced flights due to lack of demand|0 That makes some sense but its too extreme lol|1 Viruses are a kinda a way of life it happens it sucks but it happens and there will be another one and another one after that|0 Im due April 25rh and terrified|0 Nobody knows It could end up being like herpes or chicken pox where the virus can reemerge and become infectious with or without symptoms Measles can cause immune system amnesia where all of your antibodies to previous infections are gone HPV and EBV can contribute to cancers years after infection Nobody knows anything about this virus except what happens during its acute phase And we dont even have accurate data on that because for some reason people across the globe have allowed politicians to oversee public health and their narcissism and obsession with clinging to power makes the data unreliable|1 lmao|1 You clearly want to denigrate China and theres a time and place for it How China took care of this outbreak and how they are behaving now is commendable Nothing short of it China else where continues to do terrible things And we can call them out for it where thats necessary My hope is that China will see how much Goodwill it can gain by being a friend to the world and to its minorities inside than by being enemies And this will be a great motivation for them to change their ways|1 Yep that thalidomide|1 Who doesnt love a good riotYour pay sucks RiotYour government sucks RiotYour team won the Super Bowl RIOT|0 Unless direct contact yes combination of all these things should be enough to help in 999 of the cases|1 Very true|1 Yes I noticed this two weeks ago Its censorship What are you trying to post|1 You mean fuck the CCP|0 No its not All the data were have so far points to an R0 of 2|0 Looks like a modified version of a previous piece of bollocks that was floating around Facebook a while back Seems this stuff mutates faster than the actual virus|1 Yes there is definitely an issue when it comes to hiring locals vs foreigners getting a larger portion of the Jobs First when it comes up to the higher levels it takes a long time for most major companies to cultivate people for those positions combined with the fact that Generally yes people hire people from their country creates an effect downstream Another problem is the work ethic When my Dad arrived in Singapore the Singaporeans were taking 2hour lunch breaks The excuse was that they were discussing Business but seriously Im not asserting anything about you and the people you have seen discriminated against but there are reasons for this on a wider scale|1 Yeah I also dont think its a shortterm problem for susceptible groups if duct tape sells out Although now that you mention it I have heard duct tape fixes everything maybe this is the breakthrough we need |0 if you help and you fail to do so you can be held responsible for the damage its stupid but its not only in china|0 I was curious on exact numbers looking at data from the 2010 US Census page 138 herehttpswwwcensusgovcontentdamCensuslibrarypublications2014demop23212pdf 35 of the over 65 population is in a nursing home 11 of the over 85 population is in one 9 times out of 10 is a spot on estimate by uthewhiterider256|1 Youre absolutely right regarding the ebola and zika thing Thats what kept me on the just a flu bro camp for so long I mean for fucks sake people were panicking over WWIII two months ago|0 But I wanted to die by cigarettes|0 Hmm So I had plans to go down to Orlando Im cancelling now obviously I won a sweepstake for a week long resort down there which I believe is among the closings I want to see if all this chaos can somehow get me a refund of what I invested already though|0 try to find a local mom pop game store Pretty rare these days but always nice to support small businesses if you can|1 That is what the lifetable shows you People of that age group are expected to die at a certain rate in the next year My use of the US one here is just an approximation of course|0 They removed it because from their perspective it will panic people to see how unprepared America is for thisAnd there is no real community coordination here Neighbors helping neighbors Maybe in some places but not most|0 Important take away from this article You want to be judicious said Dr Dora Mills an epidemiologist and the chief health improvement officer for MaineHealth the largest health system in Maine which has seen only one patient test positive and no sign of community spread Any time you have an epidemic you have two epidemics you have the epidemic of the disease itself and you have the epidemic of fearAnd not from the article but important to know the criteria for a suspected case as outlined by the WHO Suspect Case A A patient with acute respiratory illness fever and at least one signsymptom of respiratory disease eg cough shortness of breath AND with no other etiology that fully explains the clinical presentation AND a history of travel to or residence in a countryarea or territory reporting local transmission See situation report of COVID19 disease during the 14 days prior to symptom onset OR B A patient with any acute respiratory illness AND having been in contact with a confirmed or probable COVID19 case see definition of contact in the last 14 days prior to onset of symptoms OR C A patient with severe acute respiratory infection fever and at least one signsymptom of respiratory disease eg cough shortness breath AND requiring hospitalization AND with no other etiology that fully explains the clinical presentation|0 Not all kids are the same though Some really need more attention than others My sister was much more demanding than me and it went to the point where i basically had to be slefsustaining because all parents attention had to go to her|0 I believe youre looking for Alameda and Marin counties to make an announcement then lol|1 I feel like I should clarify my point was that we can still catch the virus because people still cough without covering their mouths people still use public transport people still dont give a shit about others and go to work with colds People touch food with their bare hands in supermarkets There is barely any education about how to sneeze cough etc so our superior hygienic habits wont be enough to protect us from catching the virusOf course eating living animals is very unhygienic and risky and inhumane and it likely contributes to the creation of the virus but if the virus gets here we get infected just like the Chinese did And thats what those people seem to ignore or misunderstand|0 Typical Trump he cant own up to anything hes doneAny and all shortcomings the CDC currently has on fighting COVID19 is entirely on Trump considering he fired the whole pandemic response team httpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpfirepandemicteamThe CDC can only do 350 tests per day and only has a total of 75000 tests There are 327 million people in the countrysource httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsummaryhtml|0 Theyre certainly playing to the stereotypes on surrenderingBut difficult to laugh at them when its even worse in the Allied nations|1 I dont know why people are so antiNBA players getting tested They most likely paid extra for testing at a private lab I highly doubt the NBA players are skipping the line at regular test labs|0 I mean I would hope they would do the same for anyone who was found positive and all the people who have had direct contact|1 Ah yes the little stroll Exercise explains it|1 I would actually be interested in having now information about testing there Do you have any more information|1 Very true The other trope that is often floated around is that the elites or whatever you wanna call them are one homogeneous entity Quite the contrary theres competing power dynamics and lots of fighting in the background|1 Always is thats why flu wards from the 1918 pandemic were so common setting up in gyms and large buildings Problem is while we have the space we dont know if we will have the personnel or equipment to save everyone I personally believe we can get the mortality rate under 1 with proper care but as cases grow so will mortality this is truly one of the worser things|1 Many people would take the threat of illness with 13 mortality for atrisk groupsFYI its much higher than 13 for atrisk groups 13 is the overall mortality rate but if you have an underlying health problem or are elderly its definitely higher|0 Theyre ALREADY infected|0 Been following this plague since January as well Ive had to fight with essentially every one of my friends and family trying to convince them that they need to stock up on supplies back in early February Shelf stable food water and filters medicine masks hygiene products and some indoor entertainment Despite my innumerable attempts at convincing them despite all the projections articles and videos I showed them I succeeded with so few Now those that are finally grasping the gravity of it are scrambling to prepare in barren markets fighting amongst the hysteria for whats left While a concerning many more are still denying its even a real problem or blatantly real at all Its just exhausting Im tired of trying to convince anyone anymore Im tired of people downplaying or ignoring the elephant in the burning room Im tired of seeing country after country mishandle this pandemic only acting when the grains in the hourglass have ran out All that effort to alert my loved ones amounted to very little At the end of the day once they do finally understand Im not really sure what to say to them anymore besides I told you so And even now I know its still just the beginning|0 Yes Im not sure how to spin this one yet|1 Why not wear a maskOr even Catch it kill it bin it Two guys on the end are looking like they could kill him|0 Thank you I watched the YouTube video posted above and learned that So looking towards the future this COVID19 could make its global rounds and mutate to become deadlier each wave Great|1 Horrific Bad bad things happen in badly divided countries with zero government Lets pray that doesnt happen I dont pray and Im Canadian and Im still going to pray a little about it Yikes|0 yeah it must be so annoying as theres so much uncertainty to this virus To say you have any flu symptoms could possibly be the coronavirus would put you on edge Like Ive recently returned from one of the affected countries but Im yet to feel any symptoms at all Im isolating myself to some extent but not to your level|0 Yeah but remember how it ends|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Ok I got to this number as well but I dont know how I have been reading so much over the last few weeks it is all a blur Do you happen to have a link BTW I am not calling you out I genuinely want to be able to post a link when I claim this|1 I think California is the first to get quarantined if this gets bad|0 Yea the cdc themselves had to contact a hospital for me to get tested after the county crisis unit was running me around in circles for days and thats in Charlotte county where Im getting tested Like I told my nurse friend who works at that hospital those two are not the only patients with coronavirus in the county There are probably hundreds right now if not thousands of cases in lee county alone Most of them are simply either younger that is brushing up as a cold gave up because of lee county incompetence or simply cant miss work which my last two Uber pickups were before I gave it up they were coughing and sick all over the placeMy neighbor downstairs sounds like shes dying from this virus shes much more sicker than me and you can hear the dry cough way out loud I have milder symptoms than her but because I did Uber driving have a sick mom that will die from corona if she gets infected and worked with a ton of elderly people in the past few weeks they made me priority|0 its kinda hard to when the previous president of S Korea was impeached from scandals also involving cult peoplehttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2016SouthKoreanpoliticalscandalSeriously Koreans need to keep their cults in check|0 Ive been standing on my soapbox about this virus being potentially very bad for a month now Ive been met with jokes about selling masks and hand sanitizer on eBay comments that Im crazy and now hostility I commented on a post about it just being the flu with a screen tab of The Who saying it wasnt like the flu and the guy got super angry and said well should I quit my job spend all my money on coke and start torching houses While another posted thishttpsiimgurcomMhfdzjSjpg We are not ready|0 One time the detector went off indicating something in the area of my lower leg so the TSA guy patted down my lower leg and said Nice calves I found it weird but also flattering and just said Thanks bruh|1 As a vet I was able to challenge the course by taking a practical exam I passed but took both the unrestricted and restricted courses for funand meet other enthusiasts I find the options and availability for purchasing firearms and ammo in Canada just under the freeforall in the US The real downside is that you can only possess a loaded weapon at a range or hunting You just cant go out and shoot shit up in the woods Also worth noting that the long gun registry was abolished about 10 years ago|0 All I see is a smart frugal dude who didnt pay one thin dime for goggles Mad props|0 They should just make it free treatment period Stupid to charge people during a health war|0 The article I linked is from yesterday yes The OP rumor is based on a Zerohedge article that it misinterprets from 3 days ago|1 do viruses usually target certain ethnicities i have never heard of that before|1 As a current West Virginian who was born and raised for 18 years in Ohio I must admit Ive been super impressed at how Gov DeWine is handling thisI know little about the man considering I was young during his Senate days and Im sure we have political differences given Im not a Republican But Ohio very well may flatten the curve and recover quicker than any state is the region and maybe the country due to DeWines haste and diligence and I have massive respect to him for that as someone who has a ton of friends and family in the state|1 A better question would be to see all the years previous in these monthsdec Jan feb of total deaths in China or just Wuhan And compare them to this years total deaths|1 Yeah those play places shouldve been shut down years ago|1 This virus will devastate those with the weakest analytical skills I work with engineers and physicists weve been taking it seriously since before the MSM used the flu is worse trope Somehow FB still full of people who cannot grasp what is happening|0 Yes and the outbreak hit a rural area where the demography is even older plus its unclear how complete the Italian testing effort is they are nowhere near the South Korean count of 160000 tests which means that possibly many mild cases are unreported|1 Reading conspiracy and heresay doesnt make you well informed|0 However its important to gather as much data as possibleIt is utterly embarrassing that the USA has such limited medical resources that they cant test properly|0 Absolutely terrifying Rotten teeth can cause sepsis as well I was still in the hospital when I crashed and coded Thats what saved my life Most people start to crash and never make it to the hospital in time to be saved Theres a short window of time known as the the golden hour to get on a ventilator or ECMO before its too late|0 Ryerson as well httpstwittercomRyersonUstatus1238484965123403777httpstwittercomRyersonUstatus1238484965123403777Link to the actual website announcement keeps 404ing|1 Where the fuck did all that cancer money go|0 Its not dumb at all anyone in your position would be worried Im sure everyone he is there to help is also beyond grateful Its a noble profession|1 I dont see how they can really lie if he tests positive If he gets sick it will be impossible to hide|0 I tend to agree with this to an extent The US should definitely be producing their own tests But they could easily have used these tests anyway even if they are not perfect and then in the background work on producing their own|1 Making America great again s|1 Being rational is analysis of data There is nothing going in the West and there will be nothing going on in 4 weeks time I work in an ER wont convince anyone Expect to be upvoted by doom thinkers You have just confirmed their bias Good jobx200Bedit lmao just checked your post history and you do floor maintenance in an ER You have 0 medical expertise Sit down|1 Well the amount of tests done does not match up Yesterday for example Illinois had like 400 tests done|1 Because of incompetent EU officials who did nothing to stop the spread|0 Yeah go ahead full on panic mode Buy an underground bunker hole yourself up and dont ever under no circumstance come out Seems like an absolute good idea|1 Its perfectly understandable Trumps narcissism takes precedent over everything else He will protect his own self image even if it means Americans die|1 Dont take it too seriously just yet There have been soccer players who have had massive heart attacks on the filed and dying within seconds Does it mean Im more likely to have a heart attack because they did Just because she may have no preexisting conditions doesnt mean she was 100 healthy Let the reports come out first for COD before we make any assumptions|0 Good news everyone|1 Nah I wish not But the Johnson guy is challenging the other Trump joker to win the faggot championship|1 Ha i got mask and prepared when it first started and was laughed at|1 I will make a massacreU will be dead like 80 of the rest|0 If something bad has ever happened therefore its going to happen to all of us|0 Theyre too big to fail for the Japanese government Theyll just get bailed out|0 RIP California With fecal transmission being such a big spreader as soon as it hits the homeless population all the big cities are fucked|0 What a lovely idea Im at work at the moment so cant add now but Dan Carlins Hardcore History podcasts are an absolute must listen Compelling detailed and each episode runs for hours|1 You know i always find it funny how americans hate socialism and love christianity despite christ being a massive socialist|1 I am sure that masks can not protect people 100 not being infected but highly decrease the risk of being exposed by virusI think the issue is that in the vast majority of cases people get infected with any kind of virus not because someone sneezed on them but because they touched a contaminated surface and then their own face without washing their hands first This isnt something that wearing a mask can protect you from Masks are the most effective when we give them to healthcare workers who are trained on how to use them correctly and to people who are already sick to keep them from spreading the virus by coughing and sneezing When panicked healthy people are buying up the supply there arent enough left to use in situations where theyll actually be the most helpful|1 Have you spent much time in an ER or hospital Even on a normal day theres a lot of sitting and waiting for non traumacritical patients Waiting room waiting for imaging waiting for surgery or waiting for an inpatient bed Inpatient is the same computers and telemetry to send alarm bells for people in dire need For everyone else theyre queued up for blood draws asswiping and anything else When theyre not actively decompensating the COVID patients dont need a huge amount of handson care as such Mainly they need loads of time on a ventilator|0 Is it accurate though Im not trying to argue I just havent seen the same info about the number of school closures or people in the hospitalAnd frankly all of those tech workers should be wfh anyway a majority of the time its been nice having downtown back|1 If not one of the best|1 I mean are they not watching the news Ramp up production and then price gouge the government Who gives a fuck as long as there are respirators|0 IIRC equilibrium is when supply and demand cross|0 Youre gonna be okay Just search up some videos on YT about extra steps in hygienic side Also try to not touch your face|1 Thats unfortunate but there are always outliers even with the flu Does no one remember swine flu That shit was sparing old people and killing people in their 20s and 30s It was thought to have a 10 mortality at first Its unfortunate but any illness has the potential to affect an otherwise healthy person|0 And then your kin will sell your remaining assets at a loss to pay for medical and inheritance taxes They will buy up those assets at firesale prices|0 The early speculation was the mother might pass on some antibody resistance through breast milk to combat the virus Its so disheartening to think that there was so much hope only for it to be dashed away in an instant I honestly cant fathom as a father how much that family is experiencing right now Thoughts and prayers can go fuck themselves That family needs someone to hold them and comfort them and there are clearly more untold stories beyond this one to have been sensationalised in the media My heart is broken|0 You clearly didnt noticed that tens of thousands atoms are being detected NOW with a breathalyzer Youre chemistry smart it seems but please note the timing Could have been done before we CLEARLY have the tech to do so|1 Exactly She has a research lab and the IRB the organization that protects research participants from research abuse like the Tuskegee Syphilis Trial makes it clear that specimens collected for research purposes cant be used for clinical diagnostic testing without prior approval from IRB and HIPPA laws Shes lucky that her hunch was correct because if not she could lose her funding for violating patient privacy and consent It was technically an unethical action that yielded a positive result|1 Hopefully he can place faith aside and stay away from human contact for the next few months considering his age and health|1 Still way more trustworthy than from the US or CDC at this point|1 Trump got Mexico to pay for the wall|0 Good shout on the exercise videos They did say up to 5 days so hopefully it could be a bit sooner but will let you know|1 Yep My college is considering sending all of us home and converting to online classes Scary shit|0 I think with the advent of the internet the advice about getting other people to show you whats edible is largely unnecessary if you exercise a high degree of caution Look up whats edible and if you find something that looks like something edible you saw in your research then you can take it home and further research into any poisonous lookalikes it has and if you dont feel confident in your ID then you toss it If you do that then there are a large number of things you can eat safely Ive gotten more false info from people with years of experience than reputable google sources|0 This is the part of the movie where the depressed female protagonist monologues about all of the catastrophes which happened one after the other and brought the world to such a crippled state that only ten thousand people remainedWere the second of those catastrophes|0 Dont worry some of us have spent the last 5 weeks prepping|1 So youre saying privatizing a social system is a bad idea|0 Dumb fucker is going to just raise the US death toll in the processJesus Christ|0 I remember when SARS happened I was 10 and terrified Imagine what wouldve happened if it had crossed over to the EU and US The reason why other epidemics werent that bad was because we did something to stop them|0 Yeah I live there and I can reassure you its a really beautiful city Its super modern but has some old quarters at the same time|1 Thank you My top 3 worries right now1 How REALLY to avoid getting infected when outside2 Where to get more N95 before running out of them3 How long VPNs will still be working|0 After reading other posts from people better skilled at this I began prepping last week 1 Food to last those in your home 2 to 3 months Meat frozen veg pasta spam peanut butter rice potatoes carrots tea coffee flour sugar etc Things you normally eat 2 Basic medical supplies Properly stocked first aid kit acetaminophen cough syrup bleach alcohol thermometer multivitamins vitamin c 3 Daily household items Toilet paper soap shampoo house cleaners paper towels padstampons 4 Do you have pets Enough of their food for a few months do they have a medical condition that needs extra care or medicine See if you can get more to keep on hand Make a list of everything you use in your home that you could not go without I went around the kitchen fridge freezer and bathroom and listed everything I have currently Then I broke down how long it would last and why I would need to buy more of in the next 3 months|1 My wife is in the same situation She is a medical billing and coding specialist who is set up to work from home but for some reason management is reluctant to allow people to work from home too much for fear of setting a precedent Her manager came in to work last week coughing with a fever and is now out of the office until she gets cleared by a physician and I work from home and have a suppressed immune system She is terrified she will bring the virus home to me|0 Its a perfect bioweapon if you ask me It spreads fast while dormant and puts 20 of the population in critical condition completely shutting down a countries healthcare and industries Its the same philosophy as a landmine dead people dont use up resources wounded people do If you unleashed the coronavirus on a city you had surrounded that city would capitulate in a week or two|0 Talk to your landlord dont be an ass|1 You put the spoiler right in the title Youre doing it wrong|0 fuck|0 I definitely think the larger franchises can follow Walmarts lead Sadly I see a lot of smaller family owned restaurants and bars going under due to the impacts of this virus a lot of people wont have to be told to stay the fuck home because they wont have a job to go to|0 Thats not how I read it Looks lik anyone isolating or quarantining will be eligible It is not specific on how to verify if you are eligible so its worth a call to find out for sure|1 Its no different than having an insurance policy Nobody expects to be in a horrible accident or lose their home to a fire but its certainly nice to have insurance when something horrible does happen|0 Im rational as well and if I continue the thought that youre having the Virus may not be as bad after all because we would have seen a significant increase of Pneumonia casualties by now in Japan and even in the rest of the world if it really was that badMaybe its true that a lot more people had it all along but didnt bother going to a hospital with it because it was behaving like a cold or mild flu and just went away hopefull thinking I know but its not impossible|1 Dude there are so many non governmental medical and scientific staff talking about how bad this could potentially be|0 Excuse me|1 A few things to note hereSARS spread often through bathrooms because it attached to our feces It was spread often through someone flushing the toilet and spreading the virus throughout the stall they were in meaning anyone who went into the stall often got infected pretty easily While there is evidence that Ncov can be spread through gastrointestinal tract there is also evidence that it is much more difficult to spread through the air than SARS Its heavier meaning it doesnt float as easily in the air it mostly drops to the floor This means that it likely cannot easily be spread through flushing the toilet and spreading fecal matter everywhere the same way SARS was Its why they were not necessarily sounding alarm bells when the virus was found to spread through gastrointestinal routes SARS was particularly bad in these kinds of super spread instances because it was a very light disease in terms of weight meaning one cough could spread it much further than other diseases This was VERY bad in bathrooms because all it took was one guy flushing the toilet to infect the entire bathroom all of the surfaces and the walls Anyone who used the bathroom likely got infected Ncov is a heavier virus Not nearly as easy to spread in the air The 1 issue here as its always been is touching surfaces|0 Dude they are going to create another Wuhan sea to shining sea at this rate No one can out do us Its American exceptionalism China goes all ape shit and locks down a region and gets a few thousand citizens killed So we have to lock down a whole fucking continent and get 10s of thousands killed|0 Way North of Seattle Very quiet People seem hunkered down Many elderly in my area drove by many homes garage doors shut with the shades all drawn like thats gonna help maybe everybody is getting outta dodge not sure Glad Im armed to tha teeth Also pretty sure my Facebook posts arent being dropped algorithms against this area preventing info coming out potentially Uh ohhhh Hope the internet doesnt break all the way Net neutrality and fake news debate will abolish free speech as its doing with free think Maybe all this paranoia shall serve me well Lead for looters|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 AllahGod protect you my friend sleep well eat healthy get an airpurifierac drink water vitamins and stay away from smoking if you canYou can do this |1 Probs not the best time to do what Diana did for AIDS|0 Bro thanks for the info but Im pretty sure nobody else in the squad asked though just sayingJk Lol this is a serious topic and should not be joked around with sorry with what you are dealing with and I hope you get better|1 So I say since 2008 and you assume at 2008 why would you assume I would buy high Gold has been down since 2008 which is why I bought it now its up from 1300 oz to 1700 an oz I would say thats pretty good gainsSo preserving wealth is stupid gains are stupid Not sure what exactly you are implying is stupid at least other than a naive assumption|0 We arent All gonna catch it This is fear mongering|0 A lot of people grow out of asthma Ive mostly grown out of it but still struggle if I get a chest infection You should see your doctor and ask for an asthma plan Or ring your local asthma organisation and ask for their recommendations Theres no harm keeping an inhaler handy just in case|0 Its actually 19 new makeshift hospitals news articlehttpwwwchinadailycomcna20200221WS5e4fa5d7a310128217279623html Along with the tens of thousands of more medical workers that will be living in cruise ships news articlehttpswwwcnbccom202002227cruiseshipstohousewuhanmedicalworkersstatemediareportshtml You cant even make this shit up But hey its not any worse than the flu right |0 You still trust|1 This is asymptomatic for like half of people who get it Thats probable but still conjecture at this point since were not testing enough to say for sure There are no hospital wards filled with a majority of young people suffering from COVID19 Not a majority but European ICU beds have about a 5050 split between young and old right now from what Ive heard It definitely hits older people harder but there are plenty of young people having a very rough go of it|1 Its a small sample and the first people infected at the market were likely adults We wont know for a while how children are affectedFor now its nice to have some preliminary evidence that suggests the virus isnt going to take out large swathes of the healthy population|1 Because it mutates so rapidly its going to be a similar situation with vaccines as for flu assuming they even get a working vaccine in the first place There are already over 8 substantially different strains circulatingWith SARS1 the vaccine they developed and applied to test subjects made them develop rapid respiratory failure when they caught the actual virus|0 And the path that this coronavirus took is uncertain but it was almost certainly a mutation of the virus that the bats carry most likely via pangolins Not from eating bats|1 This will effect young fit healthy people Secondary infection is killing the young and fit the complications that come after recovering are unknown but likely many will be left with lung and heart problems even if your perfectly healthy This is and will happen so quickly its going to change the world Thats without the high chance it could mutate into something much more deadlyNot trying to panic people just too many would rather turn a blind eye and call it another flu then in 10 years time will look back at the plague it wasWe have wealthy governments that just tell us to wash our hands and it will all be fine When in reality its airborne and nothing other than lockdowns will stop the spread but they would rather use us as pawns to make their wallets bigger while we suffer for their incompetence|0 Well theres the problem Economic growth isnt sustainable forever We need to get to a place where realize more profits come at the expense of peoples health via the pollution and dumping from mass manufacturing but as long as there are shareholders wanting to invest solely in growing companies well always have the need to push harder for more growth|1 Remember how wall street got a bailout in 2009 Well imagine if mom and pop get a bailout for losses due to the virus|0 if it needed to grow as fast as those hospitals im not certain that they can|0 If this turns out to be trueThen fuck yeah for being O|0 This question and most of the comments sound like the foreign trolls on disqusgo away|1 I assume this wont be Cuomo seems pretty serious about the virus|1 OP links to a news article news are clearly covering this|1 This is a scary time but panic wont help you with it You want to be as logical and informed as possible this will protect you and your familyI 25F high of complications due to brittle asthma felt the exact same way as you initially but that feeling is fading a lot now Talking with a friend who is also concerned has been really helpful Feel free to send me a message if you want someone to talk it out with No one should be left alone during this time|1 A virus that came from China spread because of China and was lied about by China But no its not Chinas fault Lets keep patting them on the back and assuring them that theyre a good little dictatorship The cognitive dissonance is realAnd yeah wuhan went into shutdown but holy shit no other part of China did The virus already left Wuhan by the time of the shutdown How else did it spread You think it just magically pops up in Europe after appearing in Wuhan You think the virus flies up into the sky traveling the continent and lands on a French guys baguetteEvery country is responsible for dealing with it now that Chinas fucked us all over But please keep making sure that the CCP knows that you forgive them for their oopsie Let me dig around for Winnie the Poohs address and maybe you can visit|0 Yet they refuse 5o use gloves for the food preperarers Bare hands all the way Enjoy yourself some ecoli or corona|1 Get celebrities to endorse him|1 twitter is the worst social media of them all you get suspended for breathing|0 Big if true What happens to the 100 cases in UK that came negative and are now roaming freely out there|1 Good post with sound reasoning and methodology I accept that the two sites arent useful sources for detecting small differences in sulfur emissions are only forecasts and that the amount of sulfur produced by burning a lot of bodies wont really shift any needles we haveDoesnt mean they arent burning a lot of bodies Presumably most of the dead have been cremated I understand thats the main method of disposing of bodies in China so theyre burning a thousand bodies on the face of it Its still just speculation to say that theyre burning two or three times that number but its hardly wild or unreasonable Just currently not supported by any available information|0 Have you studied these models Can you provide a source to the data and how it was actually evaluated from a peer reviewed scientific report Please do share If you are unable then it means you trust what is being said blindly|1 Not very different One of the earlier models predicted at 20 decrease of patient number if they stopped 99 of the traffic Turns out they quarantined 9M people in the city while 5M fled It likely did nothing to curb the spread of the virus|0 They are a SECRETIVE cult These people denied they were in the cult They were hidden here and there all the while infecting others Easy Yeah right You can take it however you want but dont call something easy when you havent seen the amount of effort everyone here put so things wouldnt get worse|1 My cousin RN in a very busy metro ER is doing the opposite She is sharing information and assuring people that even if you dont believe its real you will be taken care of when the inevitable happens until they run out of supplies time and money of course She is just as rattled as anyone She is keeping her head in all of this but she is definitely shaken up especially with a one year old son at home|1 I was watching Channel 9 yesterday and they said a local middle school refuses to cancel their class trip to washington dc Theyre gonna have buses of middle schoolers going to dc and coming back When theres confirmed cases there and we have soooooo many old folksEdit fixed a word|0 Sar Wars The Virus Strikes Back|0 Maybe this will be the spark that ignites actual social change|1 You have no idea I had to spend a night in an ER observation room for chest pains I had to supply them with some of my own medications because they did not have them I called my sister to bring them to me gave them to the nurse who brought them to the pharmacist to put them in a little packet labeling what it was and got charged a fee for them to do that because they did not carry 2 of my medications in their pharmacy I would like to thank the tax payers for my medicare and medicaid and to let them know where there money is going|0 Thank you for all you do as a paramedic I have family members who are paramedics in Toronto More people should listen to you all and my god take care of yourselves out there|1 That maybe Ive jumped to a conclusion on whats happening that its not necessarily the same thing that happened with sars but they never seemed to figure out precisely what SARS did to people Nor have they figured out exactly whats happening with FIP after decades of researching it Theyve clearly figured a whole lot out but never fully pieced together the puzzles Im extremely curious about it at the same time Im nervous about how long It will take mankind to figure out nCoV|1 Same in Sweden even if you been in Italy or Iran recently its perfectly fine to go to work according to the government If you dont show any symptoms High risk game|1 Lies are still lies You ever met someone in Falun Dafa|0 And also it is better for the daughter to quarantine herself at home if she does not require medical care Leave the medical care to those people who need it and stay home to avoid infecting others in the hospital|0 Yep Im at a law firm too I could do my entire job from home but Im not allowed to because it wouldnt be fair to the people who cant We had an officewide meeting yesterday that we thought may be about working from home Instead it was the boss telling us that we dont need to worry about being laid off yet|1 Dang well have to check with the people at the checkpoint before we head out next Im actually working in Shaoxing Zhejiang province and came out here about two and a half weeks ago to talk to a school and visit my girlfriends family Seems like right now they wont even let you in the city if youre not from there pretty crazy stuff Soo well be hanging out here until then which is not as bad if you ask me|1 Requisition all these useless cruise ships and put confirmed cases there|0 Thanks for this A small piece of relief I hope it makes a difference|1 yah having something against occams razor is like having something against critical thinking having something against hanlons is a little less obtuse but still would require an incredibly pessimistic view of human nature and assume competence that is generally not warrantedreducing assumptions is good hanlon just says assume they are dumb rather assume that they are both evil and that they are competent|0 Getting tired of this stuff The majority of the medical skill and experience in america is in 4060 year old people and to a lesser extent 30 year olds people Your twenty year old medical staff doesnt even know how much they do not know yet If the experienced ditch do to the disease threat plus this prevailing sick opinion that our lives have no value it will all fall apart and quickly|0 Stupid secks bot|0 Arent they testing HIV medications against coronavirus Wonder if people on those medications are safer from coronavirus or if the underlying HIV is still more of a risk factor for severe illness|0 All the mild cases in China were anything not worthy of hospitalization So anything from sniffles to pneumonia|0 The husband said he was feeling uneasy on the plane then symptoms got progressively worse for him over the next 2 daysJudging by the incubation period I think its extremely likely she either got it sitting beside him on the plane or much earlier than that while in China with him|0 Theyre blaming the mediahttpswwwairlinesorgnewscovid19yesamericaisstillopenforbusiness for making people scared to fly|0 In Natick about 150200 kinda walked out demanding to see the school superintendent after two students and their parent tested positive While apparently it had been planned already schools closed last Friday|1 Yes with 67000 recovered in China out of 78000 total recovered worldwide But that was also left out of the original comment Funny how information gets left out to fit a narrative right|1 I was going to say Coronavirus Worse than Hitler but then I remembered that the Italians were on Hitlers side at the start of WW2 and Coronavirus Worse than Winston Churchill doesnt have the same ring to it|0 I would think they would be supportive of that considering they are at higher risk of exposure if the virus gets in the prison|0 Thats my fear In the moment when emotion is high people can act stupid I could easily see him coming out of this unscathed at least with his base and enough of the swing vote The Democratic party cant let this go unpunished No congratulations ifwhen its controlled and dont praise him if the economy starts to rebound Blow the issue up bigger then they could imagine bigger than Benghazi bigger than email servers bigger than a swift boat story They cant let up the fact that when America needed him when we were ALL actually rooting for him to do the right thing and protect us he royally screwed up and people died because of it Not four people tens of thousands if not more He needs to be punished for his failure and lack of leadership|0 Soap can dry out hands more causing visible and microscopic fissures in skin allowing infection to enter Over washing is not good|0 Im starting to feel like Mr Krabs nowGive it up for day 23httpsmyoutubecomwatchvdKAg9zNbLf0|1 Im Japanese but I can read it Antivirus Hero Li|1 Agreed|1 Good resource but their guarded comment on the lack of efficacy of chloroquine is unfounded They neglected to mention that there has been more than 22 clinincal trials of chloroquine in the last two months in China more than any other antiviral agents and the consensus in China was A number of subsequent clinical trials ChiCTR2000029939 more than 20 others ChiCTR2000029559 and ChiCTR2000029542 have been quickly conducted in China to test the efficacy and safety of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID19 associated pneumonia in more than 10 hospitals in Wuhan Jingzhou Guangzhou Beijing Shanghai Chongqing and Ningbo 5 Thus far results from more than 100 patients have demonstrated that chloroquine phosphate is superior to the control treatment in inhibiting the exacerbation of pneumonia promoting a virus negative conversion and shortening the disease course according to the news briefing Severe adverse reactions to chloroquine phosphate were not noted in the aforementioned patients|0 Smog bad for your lung health more susceptible to lung problems|0 Yay Rich People|1 Holy fuck Cough cough coughing He then takes the kids water bottle drinks some and hands it back to her to drink What a dumb ass even if he has regular flu virus what parent would do that|0 And not just due to COVID19 Resources are going to be limited for other medical conditions if we are overrun with treating COVID19|0 Youre not listening These deaths have nothing to do with the reported CORVID19 mortality rate They dont count anyone who has not been confirmed The majority have not been confirmed because they lacked the test kits to do the confirmation Trying to explain the math is silly as these poor individuals are outside the math|0 Hear theres an outbreak there Have a friend I work with whose sister lives there and contracted the virus|1 Lol the reason why the US has low numbers in infection is because states arent even testing people And no i would not like to live in america im fine without gun crime and an idiot as president lol American love everytime ive visited the US ive got English love lmao|1 TFW no sniper rifle|0 Ok Boomer|1 Weve been fed a rather specific concoction of corporate propaganda that i believe is probably unique to the US that has been so prolonged and so ingrained in the culture that people see the world exactly how capital wants them to see it Theyve done a brilliant job of that its amazing to me truly it is I dont know how were even supposed to fight back|1 Well shit|0 Its serious The virus has an r factor of 34 and a lethality factor of 34 or thereabouts based on fluctuating estimatesBy comparison the median r value of the Spanish flu was 18 and had an estimated 23 lethality rate Sources vary and obviously data wasnt as good at the timeThe spanish flu killed at least 50 million people at a time when travel was significantly slower 1918 and communities were less interconnected The population of the world was around 19 billion Projecting those numbers out suggests this is an extremely serious problem and would result in about 62 times as many deaths as a baseline unless mitigated These would happen faster creating more problems Factoring in global interconnectivity it will likely reach more remote populations the reach percentage would act as an additional multiplierThis comes with a lot of contingencies we have much better analysis tools medical systems and the benefit of more experience if we apply it correctly If were lucky the weaker strains will supplant the more virulent strains The actual lethality percentage is hard to predict as we havent encountered global hospital shortages Researching rapidly using supercomputers identifying cases and buying time through controlisolation measures gives us some advantagesAnyhow its very hard to predict appears to spread rapidly and should be seen as an extremely serious threat until proven otherwise|0 This is a TIL for meAfter googling I found that UWs fall semester starts in lat September one momther month god damn it after football season kickoff this is interesting|1 What you could do is both sit down and write down what both of you need to feel safe and secure during this situation Come to the table with real statistics and numbers from reliable sources dont get some armchair scientist get the real stuff Its very well known that this is just over 2 times more contagious than the regular flu but not as deadly as SARS So that is positive news The compromise could or not be no gun but they have to wash their hands before eating and preparing food Locking up outside food storage and they have to take their vitamins Expressing each others feelings and concerns showing empathy for each others different views is going to be helpful My husband was against us doing any preparations But sat him down and told him that this is what I need to feel safe and secure this is the data that backs this up and that I would rather be prepared than be caught off guard and stuck with out the food and supplies we need His only caveat was that it HAD to be food that we already eat in our rotation of meal planning meds that wont expire too soon and that he was allowed to play all the games he wanted if we were isolated What I asked of him was to wash his hands more help me with the cleaning and any extra house work but that I would do ALL the meal planning and shopping Compromises were made but I think once I sat him down and talked through it not made it an argument or pointed fingers he came around quickly It also helps that I am immune compromised our daughter has asthma and lung scars AND we are trying to self isolate so I can see my dad in his final days battling cancer Sorry this is so long You just need to have an honest and open conversation without getting overly emotional and try to keep is rational Which I know is tough right now|1 I have read 1 oz water per pound per day That should give you an idea of how much water to have on hand extra for your pets|1 I know I feel really bad about it as it is obviously well intentioned But they could get people killed|0 What about the censorship about the virus in the early stages that led to the spread in the first place Dont say its not their fault We are suffering for everyones negligence China USA its the same virus|0 As a portfolio managerwe call them stupid moneyBut this timethey are playing with their lives instead of their money|0 The issue with the CDC tests was that they tried to make a test that screened for ALL coronaviruses instead of just Covid19 which is what the tests in other countries test for So when those testing kits were sent out and tests in them failed it took a week or two for labs to then calibrate to the testing kits to that specific test America just wanted to have the bestest best test|1 This is what i hate a worldwide virus is spreading and killing and people think that this is a reason to have a family vacationLike ok yes you got time off now but there is a freaking virus that spreads very fast and through everyone if you want to make a vacation make sure to complete your bucket list before the vacation finishes|0 Yeah fuck the flu and double fuck COVID19 Shits giving me so much anxiety I cant sleep|0 Would it If they are spread out over multiple bars idk if it would qualify|0 Russia just straight up assassinates them they do not give a flying fuck Why would they go around fucking whit a virus|1 Sorry but thats not the right answer either Theres no right answer here Testing people only after they are in critical condition is not helpful It is not useful for treatment and it is not enough data for containmentReality sets in and we realize that with only a handful of test we might as well have zero because the virus is spreading out there and we cant know who has it|0 5000330000000 0002 of the population Makes it kinda rareYou can still get decent graph from testing 10002000 patients Even after testing what is seemingly random at first You might catch a few that test positive then you trace their steps Where they have been and with who With this new information you can test people and areas that are more likley to be infectious They provide more information and so on|1 Agree Im thinking more about exposure thru international airports tho Risky|1 Ill second that I work for DHL I guarantee someone is getting sick and gonna spread this on packages|0 Im equally skeptical of the China recovery claims Im much more willing to believe theyre keeping numbers quiet in order to boost their economy The only other way it makes sense is if this is a temporary lull and the cases are going to start increasing again Their population is far too large for it to suddenly just stop|0 Thats a bummer Well lets hope the cases hit a moderate rate of 4050 a day soon and then the trend goes backwards or many gain immunity to it|1 Are they banning people I know comments are deleted if the account is too new which is very reasonable I didnt think anyone was getting banned on this subreddit I thought that was kind of the point of it|0 I thought that sub was informed but quickly realized its just panic inducing idiots|0 Hows this comment hold up Clearly ford isnt shutting it down after that speech|1 What rights have to do with it when you have bills to pay and an asshole employer who wont allow you to take a time offWakey wakey Time to take your rose glasses off|0 Im sitting in a fucking insurance agency right now having to call people and try to sell them car insurance This is so fucking ridiculous|0 I quietly prepped and now my husband is relieved|1 This time is certainly different than the things we were complaining about in the past Message them anyway|1 Im not the victim Im surviving and wont starve any time soon I have a car I wont die I am renting the cheapest place I could find but I dont exactly live in the cheapest of places the housing market has just skyrocketed I will probably never afford a house Governments not taking care of me Im doing just fineI didnt mean to sound like a victim or complaining its just I have no sick days and cannot afford to miss work Im a young male so my car insurance is also the same price as my rent|0 I agree it is a question of when to shut it down I think earlier rather than later but I agree right now is not the timeI still think there are measures that can be taken to get ahead of this thingI dont think we know enough about how this spreads to know what measures are needed to stop it SARS was stopped and they are cousinsThere is research from way back in 2005 indicating that targeted containment measures would be ideal for something like this and yields a great return on investment httpswwwresearchgatenetpublication7476817SuperspreadingandtheEffectofIndividualVariationonDiseaseEmergencehttpswwwresearchgatenetpublication7476817SuperspreadingandtheEffectofIndividualVariationonDiseaseEmergence|1 Theyve already got billions if not trillions at their disposal so there is room for clarity|1 Bernie can be elected but the economy is so fucked this will not just happen We are all focused on the virus at the moment which we should be but the economic fall out will be something weve never experienced or imagined There will be homelessness and starving riots not to far off|0 This came out before the COVID19 scarehttptheconversationcomcansurgicalmasksprotectyoufromgettingtheflu125023 Extrapolating a bit from this masks wont help for several reasons Theyll contain fluids from people who are wearing them properly but youll have to not touch your face and carry out normal prevention measures washsanitize hands dont touch your face Youll need a new mask at least every day but likely more often and you can not touch that mask or you will have to wash your hands to prevent transmissionThe best bet is to prevent turning your arm and hand into a crane for the virus to your face and wash your hands|1 I dont get how people see costs like that and think the solution is for the government and by extension the tax payer to pay for it The costs need to come down and protectionist government policies enable it|1 Exactly this China may be falling but we just jumped off the cliff as theyre deploying the parachute who is supposed to be picking up the slack here|0 I dont know about USA but if you are living in UK you dont need anything to get treatment They will ask for your gp information but even if you dont have none they will treat youFor Corona virus if you showing symptoms you legal or illegal you have to self isolated|0 Goddamn thats consistent|0 I agree the local squirrel would be better however people will use any excuse to panic Like with toilet paper for example|1 Because theyd rather give tax breaks to big business and the rich is whyEven now theyre responding to a pandemic with tax breaks for big business and the rich|1 Am I understanding this correctly that by March the 5th about xx have been asymptomatic edit OK I got it now 410 of 696 did not show any symptoms at all httpswwwstatistacomstatistics1099517japancoronaviruspatientsdiamondprincess|1 Believe so yes Id google Korea and the virus|1 I was reading that Bloomberg has given something like 8 or 9 billion to philanthropy Which isnt something to sneeze at|1 South Korea was the second country to get infected after China of course they have more tested|0 Thats the way Well done Countries must start a great Pay It forward help chain|1 Yeah but it seemed like he was referring to its severity being the hoax not that his fault in it is the hoax|1 im not judging the post i replied to just didnt give the full info testing without permission is different than asking being told no and doing it anyway for instance it shows she trusted the system if she didnt trust she wouldntve asked since she knew shed get a useless answer but she thought they would act reasonably still not judging it may be that the feds acted reasonably even tho they came to the wrong conclusion i genuinely dont know i m just observing the reasonable conclusions of her asking|0 My point was that the 80 of mild cases all were in the hospitalSee httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762130and httpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51for the original dataso the claim that the data shows 80 of infected do not require hospitalization is wrong the data show that 80 of hospitalized patients only have symptoms like pneumonia but do not require oxygen or artificial respiration|0 Lets say you start experiencing typical flu symptoms fever cough sneezing Does it make sense that troubled breathing would be the warning light that you have it Would it then be advisable that the best way to know if you likely have itare in mortal dangerneed immediate medical attention is to monitor your SpO2 and set milestones for getting help like if it goes under 90 call a hospital have your vitals charted to bring them up to speed If it goes under 85 you go to the hospitalI keep thinking this might be the only way we dont clog up our hospitals with false positives and also get care in time to people who do|1 The US wont shut down businesses because then insurance companies might be forced to pay out business interruption claims a type of insurance most businesses pay for|0 Weird thing to say when he goes bent over backwards to stick it to China|0 The foreign infected would have started dying by now if this was very dangerous but all deaths still have been in China|0 Thank you I am a pharmacist at a large academic hospital Every day going to work is facing the unknown|1 Aerosol is described as limited airborne|0 Hypothetically if we follow China with 40 days of isolation and quarantine How much food can you store where could you buy more Motor trouble Whos helping Do you have friends along the way Id assume parks closed as employees would be home I guess run through all the what if scenarios and decide if youd rather be home or on the road Nobody has gone through this before so hard to gauge what the best approach is|1 Theres hundreds of bar crawls for st Pattys day that arent getting canceled Ill be attending in hopes I get the beer virus|1 Suicide is painless it brings on many changes|0 We made a team to track our progress anyone can join httpsboincbakerlaborgrosettateamdisplayphpteamid18775The team name is Covid19|1 Colleges are closing because they dont want 20000 students to get infected and then go home and spread it to 20000 home towns If we flatten the curve of overall infections we might just not completely overwhelm the medical system|0 If I do the mods will delete it again for a low effort post Whatever the F that means It should be visible in my history maybe Or am I the only one that can see it on my profile|0 Not even customers Im predicting a lot of us who will be taking precautions will Scare employees see we cant have people afraid to come in we have a business to run here Get ready for a nasty backlash as people get more and more scared Please be careful and help others in the same situation We can get through this if we stick together|0 Natural born idiot|0 This is my mom Her attitude is a blend of denial and fatalism its all paranoia but if I get it die then so be it its in Gods hands Shes 80 and an avid pickleball player And a retired nurse Shes curtailing exactly 0 of her activities including going to get a haircut tomorrow even though she usually wears a wig now in public whyyyyyy She has hypertension that is becoming harder to control with meds My dad has diabetes and COPD but hes not concerned eitherMeanwhile Im stocking up isolating I have autoimmune diseases prior breathing issues If I catch this thing it will probably be from my mom But I cant tell her that|0 Thats so true Normalcy bias seems to be the new fad OPs roommates remind of the guys from the movie Dude Wheres my car Yes we should be extremely careful and dont panic All of life should not be put on hold Prepare Plan Pay attention|1 Good Unless youre an essential business you shouldnt be open right now And insurance costs should be higher for essential businesses that expose their employees to additional risks|1 just now boris said schools in england r to close after friday like scotland and wales|1 Fuckers giving me healthcare can have shit in detroit|0 Yes The economy shrinks at an alarming rate when that happens Which if this continues that is going to hit us like a brick wall Nothing any single individual can really do to stop it 2008 was a small negative situation in comparison to the margin debt and corporate debt in the US That debt has to be fed to keep from defaulting or being flushed out with large losses Margin Debthttpswwwadvisorperspectivescomimagescontentimagedata383849d5853b01fc2272235f82db67a06dpng Every bubble pops in its own way No one knows what will make it happen This Virus seems to have started the ball rolling far as pushing it over the edge The Fed was already bailing out the banks since October As the Overnight repo window to feed the banks use to take an act of congress After 2009 and the DoddFrank the Fed has the ability to bail banks out overnight to keep them a float That has been happening for 5 months So when they are saying the economy is strong it is actually a lie You do not have to cut rates in a strong economy ever Actually you have to raise rates because in a strong economy you get large moves of inflation and to temper it down you push the rates upward in order to slow down borrowing which slows down risk taking Which slows down inflation Well in the most simple terms It is all a ripple effect|0 dont forget its allergy season|1 I forgot toothpaste ty|1 Yes and in mine as well|1 Better safe than sorry has saved my ass a few times|1 what do you mean ugly how ugly guns come out for food ugly|0 I do have a question What defines someone being recovered Like does this person no longer carries covid19 Are they no longer contagious to other people Im just wondering|0 As of Feb 28 travel to Korea and symptomatic qualifies for testing under the interim CDC guidelines Fever1 and signssymptoms of a lower respiratory illness eg cough or shortness of breath requiring hospitalization AND A history of travel from affected geographic areas5 see below within 14 days of symptom onset International Areas with Sustained Ongoing TransmissionLast updated February 28 2020 China Level 3 Travel Health Notice Iran Level 3 Travel Health Notice Italy Level 3 Travel Health Notice Japan Level 2 Travel Health Notice South Korea Level 3 Travel Health Notice httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtml|0 No worries I didnt know until a neighbor in nextdoor app mentioned it Let me get articles I keep trying but phone is refreshing We might not even see school back in session this school year httpswww10tvcomarticlegovdewineohioschoolscouldremainclosedremainderschoolyear2020marfbclidIwAR3yfialVPL5VzbtoO1aUdFgzspRXHhGWs4v34U6S4Kdfg26QjaRe6OswLibrarieshttpswwwtoledobladecomlocalcity20200312toledolucascountyofficialstellpublictotakeproactivemeasuresnotpanicovercoronavirusstories20200312121httpswwwgooglecomampswwwcleveland19com20200313librariesthroughoutnortheastohiotemporarilyshutdownlimitspreadcoronavirus3foutputTypeamphttpsradiowosuorgpostcoronavirusohiocolumbuslibrariesclosealllocations|0 People said that last week and they already lost 20 Youre playing a dangerous game catching a falling knife|0 I guess the point is whether precautionary measures short of a total lockdown are useful or not A country or workplace can enact measures that prohibit people with mild flulike symptoms from going to workschoolevents Provide paid sick leave for people to do that And the countrybusiness can kind of limp along like that for an extended period of time But if asymptomatic transmission is the major form of transmission then everybody but essential workers are going to have to stay home for a few weeks Or just admit defeat and wait for herd immunity|0 You cant find new cases if you dont test for itThe same for deaths just chalk them down to pneumonia or heart problems nope no coronavirus here|0 I know 10 people personally who are having trouble getting tested in NYC Some doctors wont let them come in and say to call the CDC CDC is saying call the ER and ER is referring them back to the CDC One couple went to urgent care to be told the only hospital in the city that is testing is Cornell Its a disgrace We are probably well over 10000 but no one is being tested|0 I heard from a friend of a friend that this is true|1 No probably about it he absolutely would say that it was his idea that he chose the scientists and that only by listening to him were they able to figure it out|0 Do you know my health history Maybe dont go around saying shit like this to people Plant based or Mediterranean diet is really the only thing you should feel comfortable suggesting to anybody you dont know|1 My American friend is in Germany right now Should he get back to USA as soon as possible I told him to go to the US embassy|1 Thanks so much Will do|1 Im having a devil of a time not touching my face Its something I have done unconsciously for 55 years Ive started keeping paper towels at my desk and if I need to rub my eyes or scratch I use onesince my granddaughter was born with CF 6 years ago I have had no problem washing my hands whether I think I need to or not I always washed my hands but now I do so much more often|0 Yeah Im hoping everyone see that and realizes how bad it can get and how fast it can get bad |0 For you I certainly wont This is a very serious issuenot time for childish behaviourMay we all find a way to get through this with empathy and courageWe are all in this together|0 Theyre going to spend trillions on corporate bailouts anyway so like why not fucking bailout actual people|1 should I be banned for this|0 One of the saddest things Ive heard from a friend who is related to a former governor in a province in China is that people need hope not the truth but they need to know to take it fucking seriously because the CCP govts news release within its own country is backwards as fuck|0 Theyre responsiblebut youre getting mad theyre trying to help another country|0 A Gollum who doesnt hate taters|1 Thank you for the update Has Italy announced a full recession or something else|0 Sure hope so|1 Yes thats why it will never happen We need that 100200 billion for fighter jets and cruise missiles|1 The fight gods have truly deemed that fight to be the last straw Sickness upon the land and a pestilence amoungst its people|0 Pedantry and entirely useless to a debate among laymen The natural world cares very little about where humans decide to draw arbitrary distinctions|1 They are probably with the 2 million tests promised 2 weeks ago|1 Careful the mods might ban you for posting antiChina stuff|0 Very well said Thanks for the info Stay safe and ride it out the best you can|1 Sourcehttpswwwbbccompersianiran51676966Edit this source no longer claims anything about 210 deaths I can vouch for it that it used to but I dont see any reason anyone should believe me Ill leave it up in case it helps anyone figure out why they changed it but it definitely no longer backs up this claimEdit 2 This threadhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfaycy1irandeathtollcouldbeashighas210 has a link to the BBC update page with this story in English|0 Some of my teeth started hurting these last couple weeks and now Im really regretting putting off that January cleaning and xrays|0 Ive been against every decision ford has made since becoming premier but I must admit that Im not disappointed with how the provincial government has been handling this He is following the advice of the health experts and hasnt downplayed the threat I am happy about that Id really like to see a push for more widespread shutdowns in manufacturing and construction but I have a feeling that may come after the feds release there economic stimulus plans|1 Sorry didnt realize you were autistic|0 Poland just locked its borders to foreigners as well|1 The thing about Cassandra was that she foretold evil to come nobody believed her but she was right every time|0 Yes and it was probably the same in the US Positives started coming when they changed the protocol for testing|1 Right thing to doHowever there are things cant be stocked Think about diseases like uremia When infected people flood into hospitals patients with chronic diseases may not even be able to receive regular treatment like dialysis And what about acute diseasesThis happened one month ago|1 mortality rate for anyone between 640 is like 02 Unless you have preexisting condition most of us will be fine|1 Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has said he thinks the coronavirus outbreak in China which has killed 170 people and infected more than 7700 will boost the US economy Jan 30 Well see well see|0 We should have a protest against covid|0 Yes Its always about the money|1 Sorry I asked this before scrolling up seeing you had answered my question Thank you for your kinds words I hope you and your family feel better as wellSounds like you guys had a pretty mild version of it If I do have it hope its the same outcome |1 uk no pun intended is going to be royally fucked A tory government who cant care less about the people plus the brexit effect that has already pushed many nurses back in their countries meaning the NHS is going to be extremely understuffed plus the incompetence of Bojo plus the opportunity to use Covid to throw at it the blame for everything bad about brexit brexit didnt tank the economy it was the virus its going to produce a domino effect of massive proportions|0 Please choose upscale places like country clubs Whole Foods diamond jewelry stores yacht dealers Benz dealerships|1 My mothers best friend from high school just had major surgery But shes not taking any precautions because the president said its containedDont kid yourself There are plenty of people who listen to what this administration says and do not consume any worthwhile news sources|1 The proposal is to disallow sleazy companies taking state emergency money and then turn around and give it to the ownersIf they can pay dividends they shouldnt need a bailout|0 I have some SPY and QQQ puts with expirations in May at around 10 drop territory and December in 20 drop territory Airlines shipping box store retailers are probably all decent bets Im no pro just looking to protect from downside for cheap|0 At a guess heshe is probaly thinking a week or twoor maybe even 3 off of work for some people but not all maybe the supermarkets shelves will be slightly more sparce than normal what theyre usually like the day before a bank holiday maybe a baby boom in the next year as no one is stocking up on condomsIts actually laughable the people who have their heads in the sand like this and dont think this is as super super serious as it actually is are in for a massive fucking shock in the coming months and it will probably be a hungry one too|1 Its catastrophic not in an everyone is gonna die but in 12 of our people are in the hospital wayIts catastrophic in a we cant make or ship goods for weeks kinda way|0 smany people will be fired if they dont go to work but they still arent testing unless you are on deaths door This is the best way to continue spreading it|1 The world is not remotely a predictable place Believe that it is at your own risk|0 Apple would like to have a chat|1 Vaccine providers actually have to model what strain of influenza will become prevalent and create the vaccines based upon that This is a big part of why the flu vaccine can vary so widely yeartoyear in how well it protects you Severe flu seasons tend to be when their model was wrong|0 i sort of hope they get physically hurt|0 Reliable infrastructure roads and a healthy large scale work force are all lacking in most of Africa It would take an entire overhaul of the continent to support large scale manufacturing The quality of product would take decades to be on par with China currently People are forgetting it took about 20 years of investing into Chinese manufacturing to get a quality product with acceptable QC 80s and 90s Chinese products were complete trash and had the QC of a blind guy playing darts|1 Oh good But theyre still getting 3k for a few more days at least so itll be rough still|1 How many places are out in the boonies to such an extent though I mean there are definitely places that are very remote with people that are largely self sufficient for the most part But most rural communities arent that far off the grid Theres almost certainly at least one major chain store whether its a Walmart or a dollar general or whatever it may be and if not at least a decent portion of the town goes to the one in the next town over And if thats the case trucks arent delivering there and those drivers are either traveling through an urban center at some point or stopping somewhere that sees tons of traffic from those that do|1 Chinese new is tainted and censored That doesnt make Taiwan news any better|1 No but if you look at all his other posts in this thread I think youll understand lmao|1 truely when I was hospitalized recently with pneumonia they used a cpap machine to excercise my lungs open the bottom lobes and loosen the phlegm basically they just turned it on and had me breatheblow air against the flow until I couldnt anymore then allow it to fill my lungs up to compasity They had me do it 10 breathes then a nebulizer treatment of albuterol I was woke up at night even to do it every six hours I wish the best for you please get well soon|1 httpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinocovid19infograficaengpdfhttpswwwepicentroissitcoronavirusbollettinocovid19infograficaengpdfCheck out these stats from Italy 23 of people in Italy are over the age of 60 Median age there is 478 They are going to have it a bit more rough for this reason alone But the data clearly shows that its pretty much all older people being severely affectedItaly has tens of millions of people and they have only tested like 40some thousand|1 Yup Anyone who looks at Fig 3 can see how weak the regression is If they excluded that one outlier point with R of 45 who knows what the slope would be And the gall to report those coefficients to 3 significant figures|0 And just general spreading Its not like there were 19997 unconfirmed cases three weeks ago|0 No one soups a bats eyelid|0 No it isnt|0 You should seek help with your obsession Get well|1 I hiked the Appalachian trail for a month Much more gross than driving Didnt stop at any truck stops and got by just fineI understand that its not an acceptable work environment today but if push came to shove and someone needed the money and wanted to be safe truck stops seem optionalIf someone can change my mind please let me know what I am missing here|1 Should probably stock up on firearms and ammunition too If it gets bad enough people will try to take what you have|0 So how does one place puts Asking for a friend|1 Never forget|1 maybe hope your landlord will be nice lol|1 LOL classic Can hear the song Wonder if hes still alive|1 What scares me is how completely overtaken by doomers and apocalypse fetishists the Western media has become Each new case is reported as breaking news completely blending out the simple fact that were basically dealing with a nasty form of a seasonal flu here|0 they probably will in a lot but italy has the specific characteristics that make it more likely to be worse per capita old population dense cities smoker population crowded hospitals|0 hey do a double space after the line to cause a line break your formattings fucked otherwise|0 Oh didnt catch thatYes thats worrying but its not entirely likely that she spread the disease on that one day|0 Why do they isolate it I mean Australians Chinese French already did it and offered to share with everyone Why reinvent the wheel and spend time|1 The 2400 people went to military bases in CA TX or GA for 14 days to isolate via a chartered flight|1 Listen to the president and youll be fine Hes a celebrity|1 Its not counting all the people who were turned away from hospitals and died at home Only people who have been admitted but not tested|0 That certainly justifies calling an ambulance Im talking about people who call the ambulance because they are vomiting or because they slipped and hurt their wrist or those with 6 months of foot pain|0 Thank you People underestimate social pressure|0 The false information warning is nice but Facebook waits way too long to flag viral images as false So it spreads around quickly Now half of the conservative elderly think this is a hoax by the democrats to take the election I really hope they realize its not it can cost them their lives I just had a transplant and Im staying home|1 Yep Im on the Coronavirus dietcounting calories and rationing my food|1 Which raises the questions How big is this covid19 situation really most expect a fairly sizable amount on top of chinas data but what if its much much much bigger We have only seen 21 days of chinas numbers and it has spread the equivalent area of the United States in 21 days Less than a month 3 weeks how fake is their economy prior to this virus event how on earth will phase II of the trade agreement between the US and China ever be signed off if it gets to that phase when it is looking for china to follow global accounting practices with checks and balances knowing it is fake as well|1 To be fair almost all RNs tell me to give patients a cup of water when theyre right next to the patient witha pitcher full of water CALLING me lazy WHEN theyre on their fucking phones when the call lights are going off at the nurses stationIve met too many lazy RNs it twisted my view of them as a whole|0 This response didnt age well|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 All math isnt the same I used to think I was bad at math because I got a D in Algebra 1 and couldnt cut Trig in college and dropped out Frankly I was never very good at school and never liked it Then I became a mostly selftaught computer programmer then software engineer then product architect I taught myself some mathrelated algorithms just by figuring out how to make the software do what it needed to do It was pretty easy because I could see what it needed to do and just keep banging on it until it worked After a decade of this a former math professor joined our team One day were talking about his teaching career at lunch and I mention I suck at math He starts asking me a bunch of coding questions and then says Youre crazy Youre a natural at math You can do binary boolean arrays statistics matrices Bayesian probabilities and more and you figured it all out for yourself intuitively So there are different kinds of math and different ways of learning and implementing it I think I still suck at what I call theoretical math but if something is what I think of as practical math I can usually noodle my way through it and I actually kind of enjoy it|1 Trump literally increased the CDCs budget with every spending bill|1 A week ago Boris told everyone to keep shaking hands Its right out of the Trump playbook I am shaking hands I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were coronavirus patients and I was shaking hands with everybody you will be pleased to know and I continue to shake hands Someone posted a paper by the CDC on the containment of the Spanish flu on this sub a few days back probably the closest thing we have ever seen to this in terms of viral transmission Unsurprisingly the take home message was early closure of schools and stopping large public gatherings resulted in lower death rates because the hospitals dont melt|0 well they took the pile of cash we gave them last time and bought back their stock to drive up share prices instead of putting it in the bank as a cash reserve in case the clearly overlyinflated stock market tankedbasically airline execs are probably posters on rwallstreetbets|1 I cant find a source for what you are saying either and the Lstrain being more aggressive could mean it spreads more easily not that it is more deadly|1 All the best|1 I agree CNN runs with any story thats anti Trump before fact checking it Then they have to walk it back but only after the damage has been done with their impressionable viewers|0 Good as long as its more than what they earnt from the scumbag tactics Hope the IRS has a good look at them too|1 Logical and smart|1 Its going to be a social norm to wear a mask now I imagine there will be some sort of drugs soon that help people survive infection too I sure hope that immunity to this is possible through childhood infection like chicken pox ect|1 My roommate order Chinese food last week I bleached all the plates and cups Disinfected the whole house Not risking it|1 All IndiaWanted say lots of Indians and Bangladeshi people go there then they go back home and well fuck|0 Is this the exciting news concerning the fda trump was talking about during todays speech I didnt catch all of it|1 holy shit lol|0 Im married to a MD and its all he and his group talk about They adjusted their vacation schedules a couple of weeks ago before the first case in the states Theres lots of frustration with the CDC but theyre trying to stay informed and learn what they can It seems the hospital based docs are shitting themselves a bit more than private practice physicians|0 I would just like to know if there is anyone actually alive and working at the CDC I feel like my local health department has given more guidence and up to date information My state actually has independent testing At the state level there is actually movement I am not impressed with the CDC or federal response at allAnd at least it is consistent but CNN is still a joke|1 Too lateHere in swiss we have over 500 confirmed casesNot serious cases dont even get tested anymoreAnd we got sooo many people driving train daily|0 We just got an email from UCSF here in the bay area and they said specifically At this point we are past containment Containment is basically futile Ourcontainmenteffortswont reduce the number who get infected in the US 4070 of the US population will be infected over the next 1218 months After that level you can start to get herd immunity Unlike flu this is entirely novel to humans so there is no latent immunity in the global populationThey are not searching because there is no point its a done deal|0 My mom says he catches hell no matter what he does She wont listen to any reply either|0 just remember theres no qualification exams to run for presidentyou could be lobotomized but if people like what you say theyll vote for you|1 Soo I think it was Italy who cut mortgage payments giving out food income in order to help to properly quarantine everyone save the grandmas of the world|1 Ive had a persistent cough and phlegm since december occasionally being floored for weeks at a time with aches and pains Ive either had the flu than gotten it thinking it was the same thing only gotten the flu and have lasting damage that will kill me once I do get CV or just an incredible stroke of bad luck with my lung health|0 The beauty of something like this is that it doesnt have to be 100 correct like a nuclear bomb Where 1 mistake means everything is destroyed Instead if proctoring is made difficult enough to hack for 98 of test takers its good enough to be an effective system on average|1 He didnt know he was sick but okay|1 Poor guy |0 Wow your right across the Amite River from me haha Im in Central Damn we really need to ramp up our testing|1 If you dont do it youre a piece of shit|0 US isnt ready to detect LIKEY cases let alone stealth|0 BTW this post keeps getting deleted Please dont delete I want to have discussions with likeminded people about theory|1 Now its a pesky virus that certainly is on its own side|1 Romeny was subject to so much undeserved vitriol in that election Dude got flack for everything even though he is pretty darn moderate and most of his positions were some form of if a state wants to do it good for them Which is a far cry from the majority of republicans who say if a state wants to do it we should not let them unless its something I like|1 Does the amount of virus specimen youre exposed to scale how sick you might get|0 Posted in other threads near my stateIm in Southern Ohio Today my 79 year old grandmother was diagnosed with fever and an upper respiratory infection Her doctor told her to take it easy take antibiotics and get back to him in a few days as she may have a touch of the coronavirus How is that not criminal negligence No test since she didnt go to the ICU hasnt traveled to any hotspots nor had contact with anyone positive But with community spread in all states bordering us as well as our own state how does a doctor see a 79 year old woman with High Blood Pressure Diabetes and other underlying medical conditions with a diagnosed upper respiratory infection and not order a test so that she doesnt a die soon and b continue spreading it everywhere she goes as shes not isolating because up until a few days ago this was a hoax according to her By the way Ive spent a lot of time with my mom today who spent all day with her yesterday What are the odds that if she is positive I am also positive|1 We can definitely get better at treating this We have lots of antivirals and some of them already look promising|1 Thx|1 What you said sounds exactly like how the media has reported it Its just as bad|0 I would hope that there would at least be a little bit of lead time I like your idea of a bug out bag so in my opinion you should be able to get out of Dodge before the rest of the pack Just make sure your car is in tiptop condition and that you keep your gas tank full Wouldnt want to have car problems and be stuck on the road waiting for AAA|1 Considering the vast majority of people will probaly have mild symptons I think theres a lot of it walking aroundI got a little sick for a few days after going to Vegas I would say theres a reasonable chance that it was covid19|0 The stupidity flows like water|0 Yeh the expert As opposed to some eejit SV exec who spent 5 minutes modelling in jupyter notebooks and thinks that means his opinion is somehow worth more|1 Which Project Veritas video was doctored again sugar puffThats how I know youre just another useful idiot so many other burns you coukd have used|0 Thank you for sharing I wish you the best|1 Can someone explain to me how testing has anything to do with death rateEither you get fucked by it or you dont Deaths are related to the infected not the potentially infectedI might just be confused|0 You have a choice you just dont want to admit that you refuse to go with the other choice Which is money|0 Italian celebrities have been doing this for dayshttpwwwansaitsitonotizieculturamusica20200308giulianosangiorgirestiamoacasailbranocontroilcoronavirus6aba992b04994e8ab6f9c7e43e0b5ddahtml Bocelli Jovanotti Ligabue Everyone that actively uses social media basically|1 Evacuating citizens and diplomats has always been a last resort measure Im hoping that they arent dumb enough to just unleash a bunch of people who might have the virus in the US without close supervisionmonitoringquarantine|1 I still think theyre trying to shoot the virus out of each other|0 Weird He must have not been in medical care as regardless of the reason a hospital can determine if your oxygen saturation is below normal quite quickly If he was in formal care of a physician then this is either negligence or a result of triage gone wrong|1 Theres also a lot of stupid people who think coincidences can be common lol|0 Thanks for providing the information PCR sounds reasonable enough How easy is it to mess up a PCR assay I wonder if that happens from time to time for medical professionals But then again the control lanes shouldve caught most of the bad tests|0 This is what I want people on this sub to read but what you will get is I am not cattleBoris wants to line his pocketsIm not a scientist but this one YouTubed said xyz and I believe that over itChina and S Korea have done well this model is what we should use Etc etcWhen the reality is that no matter what there will be human casualties And the method the UK has chosen will hopefully be proven sustainableOne thing I would like to add is that the UK strategy has caused debate but also the Italy China S Korea etc strategies have also caused debate No one knows for certain if their model actually works and I think people on this sub need to also accept that instead of preach it|1 the one time playing on new game is worse than new game|0 Yep And this is in FL We have so many elderly here It was extremely infuriating Even the doctor a very chill professional guy let his mask slip We were all stunned at the amazing level of selfishness displayed|0 Thanks pal I read the rest of the thread and that seems to be the case more upvotes means more interest which means more people get to see it and then your ass ends in jail kiddingAnd in case youre wondering no I didnt upvote him Kidding again|1 Same page here For sure When not visualized properly exporential growth is very hard to understand properly as we dont have a frame of reference in reallife|1 There is a 510 minute 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Yes This There are misinformed people all over Reddit claiming Italys healthcare is worse than the US|0 I think the combined efforts of so many things happening yesterday is the kick off to taking it seriously at least I hope I wouldnt be surprised to see drastic measures really get implemented over the next day or two Im sure there were some late meetings into the night and many scheduled for today for plenty of places|1 We invented the drivethru but we are done innovating Sad|0 Grandparents older relatives teachers too Kids might not be at risk but they could infect a lot of other people|1 The whole wash your hands thing is greatwe should clearly all do that But why do they always ignore droplet spread What good is washing your hands if someone can cough and spread it|1 They spent 95 of their free cash flow in stock buybacks instead of paying down debts|1 These Fast and Furious movies are getting boring and predictable|0 The fact that most people will lose their job if they try to stay home and dont have proof Dick People who are showing symptoms should be tested There is no excuse for the lack of testing in this country|0 Just a flu right everybody|0 No I heard if you have at least 50 rolls of toilet paper in your house you wont get Coronavirus Think about it Name one person with that much TP who has the virus You cant TP has natural antivirals in it On another note Im selling rolls if TP for 10 each|0 My aunt works for the fundraising side of a hospital system in MI because the hospital staff is so overworked her team the other 3 teams on her floor are rotating weeks to cover the nurses desks screen visitors They have to sign up for 2 locations so all the hospitals can receive help She said all elective surgeries are cancelled the only people that are allowed a visitor 1 at a time are ICU patients labordelivery people having surgery PEDS surgery is the only exception to the rule theyre allowed 2 people|1 The scary part of this is whats going to happen if a large percentage of the population gets infected possibly for weeks Theres not going to be enough oxygen and ventilators to go around for all the sick patients Translation Most of the 15 severe cases will probably die Hopefully not but dont be surprised if it happens You heard it here first|0 I think it is only reflecting the severe cases and they are not testing many people because of overly narrow test criteria This is likely all over|0 Not sure Good point but that even more supports the fact that we arent even close to hitting that ceiling yet|1 Youve gotta be the first person Ive heard never failed it Most people in my facility fail the FIT test I remember failing it every year and getting stuck with a crazylooking duckbill mask|0 Im going to go on a limb and bet it bottoms out about the time they announce a successful vaccine|1 Actually no Rate of growth changes pretty wildly because of a variety of factors Scientists use models in dynamic ways to understand patterns and possible outcomes No scientist would look at this guys math and call it an absoluteWhat NY will do at some point soon is close nonessential businesses and schools Maybe impose a curfew like Hoboken just did The fed may add airports to the listPeople will be effectively quarantined without the need of military checkpoints and riled up citizens|1 Ok sorry my bad just trying to help No need to downvote either I obviously read the tweet wrong when I saw it yesterday|0 Good|1 Much agreed|1 Can I get a grand Almond Latte with a shot of COVID19 please|1 You have a very good point this just be a very difficult decision they need to make However for atleast the middle and high school that Im at kids should hopefully be able to stay at home alone during the day as I dont see why they shouldnt|1 It is completely ignorant to assume Chinas healthcare system is much worse It is the contrary probably Wuhan isnt any city It is a large college town with 3 top 30 Chinese universities at least 5 top large hospitals and its medical facilities are pretty strong Many Redditors having been to China in this sub and other subs have been warning that Western countries are fucking themselves if they believe they are so much advanced than China in health care so they could easily beat the virus|1 So Im the threatNot the dept of Education who should have been planning this for weeks And that did nothing But me Not the people who should have been putting into place contingency plans and funding but me Because this should have been a problem we should have seen coming Yet we didnt Do you really think that America is going to do a Chinese or Italian style lock down Do you really think that is going to happen Do you really think that Americans will close all sporting events churches movie theaters restaurants and bars until this blows over For as long as it takes So you can blame me if it makes you feel better Go ahead and lash out More power to you|0 I wonder if this sub would be still accessible when their grandchildren were questioning about this event|0 You will be a hero just get proper rest between shifts and insist you dont get overworked somehow We all have a high chance of getting it you first Which is better now or laterGodspeed my advice to you is uselesss|1 During challenging times opportunities can still present themselves They just wont be what you initially envisioned For instance I call my parents almost every day now to check In with them We are close but havent been call every day close for a long time My husband thought that I was crazy for pandemic prepping Now he is grateful and points out how he appreciates that Im a plannerI might be out of work for weeks to months I intend to write and finish my first novel during that timeI wish you the ability to think about ways that opportunities can come through even during the darkest of times Stay healthy Stay safe|1 These things are additive The issue isnt that Covid19 is more deadly than other diseases The problem is the percentage of people who require hospitalization because of it These numbers will be IN ADDITION to the number of people hospitalized for flu pneumonia accidents etc we dont have the capacity to handle the additional cases Hospitals run out of beds and then fatality rates for everything go up because people wont be treated|0 You gotta be kidding me|1 I reckon theyre waiting to get closer to Easter school holidays if possible Timing will be key to encourage the peak at the right time They may call early school hols or extend them at the end depending on how the virus goes Public and prep schools have 4 weeks not 2 at Easter and they break up 2627 March Most state schools hols will start end of first week in April ish The gov Could start by encouraging private sector to close early quietly Apparently school holidays really helped break swine flu|1 This is what every US company needs to do if we want to have any chance of limiting the spread of the virus Otherwise people will work sick|0 I forgive you|1 httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheatlanticcomamparticle607000The Harvard epidemiologist whom many other epis agree with explains his reasoning in this interviewhttpspodcastsapplecomuspodcastthecoronavirusisntgoingawayid1460055316i1000466938203|1 Happened in the second world war we now have carrot cake and rhubarb crumble in the UK thanks to rationing|0 Dont you helped give everyone a good laugh stay sfae out there|1 I dont think it will get so out of control that it would become something like Spanish flu level however the government knows exactly what to do and how to contain it They have the fucking resources they just dont wanna use them because they dont wanna loose profits Even if the government is sure this wont turn into a bigger problem they should still fucking invest in containing and treating it as long as they can because thats the best way to prevent an extremely viral spread|1 The effects of the climate change will be far deadlier than some stupid virus that kills approximately 01 of healthy young adults approx same as the flu and only the boomers are at risk The catastrophy made by the ignorant US will cause deaths many many times larger but it wont ever reach the headlinesIts you who should seek some help|0 Mortality is higher when supplies run low They can be artificially higher at the beginning of a disease either because only the people who have the most serious cases are being tested or because treatments are developed that are more effective But yes if it takes two weeks to kill you and its growing at an exponential rate this crop of infected is going to drop that rating artificially too|0 Source I have proof for my statement and those figures are not listed as suspicious cases at WHO Data I am happy if you can proof me wrong|1 Portions of China were shut for what two months More That is what it took to get even a handle on this And they actually finally took action Our government is footdragging its way to minimal action one halfstep at a time Trump is old McConnell is old Half of Trumps government is old If they are not afraid of getting this virus it leads me to think that they were vaccinated before its releasebecause there is NO reason for an informed person of their ages to NOT be concerned UNLESS they knew it was impossible for them to get it Hence they were vaccinated prior to outbreak|0 Possibly but its also possible that it could turn seasonal or burn itself out much likes SARS in 20022003 But its such a new virus that were just not sure yet Dr Torres|1 maybe the one that allows the wealthy access to better healthcare then the rest of us|1 Its the same in the UK Even now the government has stopped well short of what our neighbours have been doing and this is the same Conservative party that has run down our health service year after year for the last decade in the name of austerity Once this has passed change will need to come and quickly|1 Doubling rate for Covid19 is 6 daysbut otherwise completely agree|1 Ok booboo Enjoy your cup of bliss|1 That could perhaps be criticised for as not putting resources where its needed Italy are trying to have a similar strategy and it hasnt seemed to help for example Sweden are trying a similar testing strategy to us atm have to see how it turns out for themHow to go about testing and government intervention to limit a spread are two different things Im highly critical of the latter at the moment myself Problem is were using historical data to determine our actions which doesnt seem to have much support for lockdowns and trying to limit panic but people are starting to realise how serious it is now so theyre panicking Hopefully theyll take action soon and shut up with this herd immunity thing as me and most my relatives are at high risk|0 Ive also never failed one of those tests so its not that hardAnd since research shows that surgical masks seem to prevent flu at the same rate that N95s do when worn by healthcare workers its likely that even an illfitted mask offers most of the same protective benefit|1 Mine does If Im in network Out of networknope it also doesnt cover hospital stays costs Doctors medicine etc But not the room and board Ill be punching out whomever tries to hospitalize me and not let me self quarantine Or Ill be in a state where Im likely not coming back around|0 Yep|1 Agree Ive read things about Japan and Taiwan that things remained calm there because the people knew they could get food Thats what we need to do here Lock down and Reassure people they can get food|1 Something something enemy of the USA|0 If I catch it Im getting one of those cheap tickets to wuhan The hospitals are starting to empty out and the doctors there are the most experienced in the world treating covid19|0 Does anyone know what the effects are on pregnant women insofar as pregnant women are immunocompromised by nature of being pregnant but otherwise generally dont have accompanying risk factors I havent found a good source on this yet but as a person whos normally healthy but currently pregnant Im not sure how much more concerned I need to be for myself than I am for my healthy husband and son|1 Illnesses spread when one person gives it to 2 people and each of those 2 people give it to 2 other people In fact when people talk about the R value theyre talking about those 2 people each person spreads it to If each person gave it to 3 other people the R value would be 3 Obviously in the real world its not exact so the R value gets averaged out between everybody Regardless of the R value the shape of the spread curve is the same Just like you can easily tell a straight line from a quadratic mathematicians can tell a quadratic from an exponential line|1 I hope so but I doubt it Especially the Dominionist republicans like Pence who are eagerly waiting for armageddon and the rapture while doing the opposite of what the guy who their religion is named after said Almost as if they were antiChristiansThe GOP will do something about it when they start dying of it and by then it might be too late to contain it at all since Trumps dangerous idiocy could cause it to spread even quicker and wider He might end up killing of his own elderly base and tout Hey at least well save on SSI now I was gonna put s but with this kind of crazy in the WH you never know|0 Most of my peer group are techies from 20 to 50 and most think its overhyped some are extremely ignorant even mocking the facts Not my job to be a missionary I tell them how I prepare and keep myself at home Luckily thats a possibility The not totally ignorant people are a little concerned I think because they see I put money where my mouth is Actions speak louder than words The others think I am just panicking|0 It sure is Mabel Over in the bushes near RI|1 You keep posting genuinely interesting ideas that do not mount to the level of clinical evidence that vitamin c is an effective therapy to prevent or treat viral disease I love your thought process but you cannot claim this is a treatment prevention or cure Please do not mislead people as this stuff is all unproven and the good quality evidence in humans is negative|1 laughs in sub Saharan Africa|1 Id be fine if it was one year|1 Politicians put their personal needs first before everyone else across the world and there are the rabid super fans of both political extremities who doesnt realize their supreme leader doesnt give a shit about them|1 This is what I think I obviously think China are lying about the death toll but I also think even if they wanted to not lie they couldnt keep up with the amount because theres so many|0 Italy tested 12k yesterday and they are not winning|0 I think its time we addressed the elephant in the room testing criteria As it stands right now you need to meet three main points Show the right symptoms Have a recent travel history via one of the more affected areas OR Have come into close contact with a confirmed caseWhich in itself totally ignores the potential for community spread Its already out the bag were doubling cases every 5 days or less yet you can only have a test if you meet some narrow and strict criteria which ignores the possibility you picked it up from someone on the street Likewise if you present all the symptoms and its likely you have it but its a mild case that doesnt require hospitalization you go home and wait until you get better without being treated Or you never see a doctor in the first place the 111 call handler just tells you to wait it outCase numbers cant go up if we dont test people rightI know I know we need SOME sort of criteria or everyone with a sniffle will be demanding a test but when exactly are they going to consider widening things to count more people|0 Thank you for thisI have a question Is the amount of recoveries and fatalities ever going to match up with the number of confirmed casesSo far there are almost 14000 confirmed cases but only a few hundred of these cases are conclusive The rest are presumably still illIf so wouldnt that mean that eventually well see either the recoveries or fatalities rise to match the amount of confirmed cases|0 lil shitter lol|1 Do you know the difference between a hypothesis and evidencePeople were and are making shit up You dont free pass because just because you want one You making shit up now Sure it could be a lot of things it could be the virus fairy thats responsible for all this but until there is evidence of that it is useless and irresponsible to talk about|0 Exactly Thus the general anxiety level|0 Exactly Im so sick of the just a flu thing I mean people DIED Even if you are young and you hv a RELATIVELY LOW chance to die bc if it DOESNT MEAN YOU WONT And what about your parents and families People are only thinking about themselves This made me so mad I cant even|0 This is what i dont get While i dont necessarily trust China how does one apply that argument only to China but believe South Korea|0 Trump just said the us is good cuz we have so few cases Italy literally tested more people yesterday then we have tested ever what a fucking joke|1 I never said its a given at all I said IF this thing spreads It doesnt take a genius to know that if tens of thousands of people need hospital beds then NHS hospitals will struggle to cope Source httpsnewsskycomstoryampcoronavirustopdoctorsaysnhswouldnotcopewithlargescaleoutbreak11945687|0 Asking the important questions |1 Its totally possible and efficient but for sure it means a lot of state intervention See this system is logical but as for taxes it only works if everybody has by law to participate to it This way rich and less rich ill and not ill are into it and you can get balanced accounts Your Republicans wont like it And it will be strange for American citizens to see the paycheck for sure it lowers the money on your bank account But you dont have to pay a private insurance and health is never an issue of moneyAlso the reality is that its not full socialist there are too private additional insurances Like the national system says youll get healthy Private insurances say theyll cover good glasses and also a room alone in the hospital Things like that|1 Thats nice |1 The US got slammed with several ingress points The biggest failure so far has been a lack of testing however some 13000 tests happened over the weekend and Id expect by the end of the week well reach the much vaunted 10000 tests per day and likely hit 1 million per day before this is done Much of our manufacturing has been outsourced or so heavily regulated that bringing on additional capacity was difficult Now theyve moved regulatory burdens and several different tests are popping up and were on our way Im not sure and I really dont think the US President has the legal authority to quarantine cities and states|0 I mean if I got infected I would 100 want to be in the country that1 has the most experience with the virus2 locked everything the fuck down and started shuffling around hospitals to improve throughput3 isnt afraid to test you your dog and your grandmas uncles friend because you looked at them funny the other dayEDIT stop being racist lmao|1 Wow entitled assholes raising entitled assholes Shocked s|0 Yeah you are right|1 I understand what you are saying but there are a few things wrong with your post The testing being done in South Korea is there to detect asymptomatic cases in addition to symptomatic cases What this has done and is mostly unrecognized are two things mainly 1 the most underappreciated aspect of this is allows the world to truly understand the situation we are in 2 allows proper contact tracing and testing to occur The amount of testing available allows them to effectively contact trace those that are symptomatic and test who they were in proximity with to see if they are currently asymptomatic This will cut down the spread of the virus without implementing quarantine|1 its a very tragicomic situation |0 Maybe its both Maybe theyre just realizing its not worth fighting the fallout coming from the Weinstein conviction and they may as well go the bunkers now rather than wait another couple of months as planned |1 Recently I had a brief discussion concerning the USThem We cant possibly know what will happen in the USMe We can Look at China Italy IranThem No it would be different here There is no way we could knowokie dokie|0 Agreed Im relatively young and healthy I had regular pneumonia and it kicked my ass|1 Well there goes Tim Hortons jerkmove Roll Up the Rim plans|1 Be like Taiwan|1 Not sure I understand Spain was blatantly ignorant in inviting tourist due to no threat of the corona until early March|0 This is basically what happened when dialysis first came out Years later an old doc I spoke with was still traumatized by having to decide who would get the chair that was open and who wouldnt|0 I was initially surprised to see so many selfish older people on Reddit upset that kids arent dying instead of them did i say that i am merely talking about your rationale behind making a choiceyou could put those old people back into the workforce and they could make an immediate contributionit takes 22 years just to get a kid ready i would jump in front of a train for my kid|0 Be thankful you arent 51 with compromised lungs Or anybody else on the at risk list If I get this virus I might die You will still be here when the world is rebuilt|0 Yes sorry just figure of speech|1 I wonder this about Italy Forgive me if it sounds like Im stereotyping Is it accurate to say that social distancing is kind of the opposite of Italy Greetings are on the affectionate side Also the elderly population is less isolated more intergenerational livingThe places that have spiked seen to have other factors but mainly a large unmonitored spread so that it was difficult to track kind of forcing a broad shutdown to slow it While testing in the US is pitiful the tracking has and isolating had been effective|1 udankhorse25 Apocalypto isnt sure about what culture it depicts nor which time period It mixes up everything between Aztec and Maya and between the 900s and 1500s The people depicted of course speak modern Yucatec Aztecs were definitely the most proliferous in how many people they sacrificed This had much to do with the imperial ideology which was more or less by TlacaelelhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiTlacaelel who presided over the empire during its peak The amount of sacrifices and the ideological need for them was definitely much higher than other cultures like the Maya ever had|1 Im the only person that Ive spoken with at my job that is concerned at all The stuff about support workers is nonsense Youre kidding me Its up to the public to support workers strangers as well instead of worrying about ourselves and our families How about businesses support their workers instead of exploiting them Its THEIR responsibility not yours or mine Just the same way universities have taken responsibility for their students by closing offering remote teaching and other resources|1 I have an industrial grade gas mask but idk if its rated for viruses Unfortunately only have one|0 This has shown exactly what China is capable of and how prepared they are They fooled tons of anti Western hipsters for years now and had tech giants and Hollywood sucking them off portraying them as a bad ass superpower but in reality its still a giant seemingly confused village Paper tiger|0 Wish I had the opportunity to see his comment before it was deleted|1 Disney has a history of being one of the shittiest companies in the US and thats saying somethingThey cowtoe to China more than any US company I can think of Threw Hong Kong under the bus harder than any US company I can think of One of the biggest backers to get rid of Net Neutrality THE biggest backer of absurd copyright lawsThey treat their Parks employees like complete garbage and a lot of them think Disney is this magical company in a Stockholm Syndrome like wayDisney puts profit over anything They care nothing about their employees lives or safety They care nothing for their customers either|1 Im not sure that she said anything thats particularly controversial1 there have probably been cases in the US for some time2 kids dont get sick but they do spread it3 the elderly particularly those who are packed in cheek by jowl in nursing homes are most at risk4 if and when we start testing well likely find more confirmed deaths and more confirmed cases of infection and recovery5 if the latter vastly outnumber the former then the panic was unnecessary If the former vastly outnumber the latter enjoy your toilet paper|1 When she says they only care about the money sic who and what money|1 Lol is this sarcasm|1 Same things happening down here in Connecticut some idiot board of education loser said they wouldnt cancel field trips because they didnt want to give into fear|0 Waterloo is doomed Fucking stupid students|0 World War Z and 28 days later intensifies|0 Its important everyone takes this seriouslyThat being said you cant cherry pick one case of a young boy to scare people Use statistics Take the many sources on death rates per age group Articles like these arent helpful besides scaring people|0 Certainly a valid point and I am not saying everyone should be in constant terror or that drastic actions should be taken I think there is a healthy middle ground where people exercise caution and compassion and realize that there are more victims or potential victims than they are currently thinking about|0 Wow So how many states left now Montana Idaho and|1 Wow|1 Whats the cough like at the beginning before you had fever All day long or just at night when when its colder|1 They may well not be accurate and we really need random community testing But we need to go with the figures we have or were deep in to magic thinking territory in terms of planning they are not pointless epidemiologists are fully aware it not 100 testing with 100 accurate results so they build this in to their mathematical models|1 Given how little the US has been testing officially and this person has no links I wonder why they were tested in the first place|0 ventilator figure is from WHOs recent visit to Wuhan and ECMO is a widely used national figure 200 is guesstimate that they probably sent at least half to Wuhan or even more Most people dont know that Chinese hospitals are decked out with top of the line medical equipments and runs very efficient like one CT machine can do 200 run a day one doctor have 150 patients a day in clinic average 20 small surgeries a day or 35 large ones everyday Not the best patient care and definitely not the most well thought out treatment plan but at times of emergency they work like well streamlined factory workers|1 In contrast in 101 of cases the researchers noted that symptoms could still be triggered after fourteen days these patients could be contagious after their quarantine period yikes|0 Hope he was arrested Should be treated like the B word|1 The leading theory is it jumped from a bat to a human Either the bat was sold in a wet market or a bat bit another animal that was sold in a wet market Whoever patient zero was they ate a raw animal sold at one of the many disgusting wet markets in China|0 Everyone loves to laugh at fools|1 Expect supply chain collapse because the nation is not doing anything to contain virus They are restricting testing so that they can say there are not many cases It will spread throughout the supply chain and sicken the workers vital to distribution|0 Is this guys stupid Governor Andrew Cuomo is saying that there arent enough test kits and has pleaded with the federal government to send more tests to private labs|0 Obama the thug is also a noble peace prize winner Also fuck the CCP and the current Adminstration|1 They trust their government Lmao|1 I think that worldwide real number is actually higherThis estimated 179 number is from the Diamond Princess cruise I bet the majority of people from that cruise are olderly people which get more symptomsFrom a universal sample younger people have less symptoms so the number of people without symptoms will be higher|1 This broke me a little bit|0 it sounds very desperate def not the kind of response expected to hear and the news media and everyone should be shaming the fuck out of these people|0 Yea Im pretty shocked at how blatant their government is saying we dont care about you|0 We all know China lies about everything so we can assume this is complete bullshit If they were honest and these numbers were real they wouldnt need paid propaganda all over the internet This sub is infested with people pushing the CCP narrative|0 Would they only close schools in London or other parts of the UK as well|1 Population density is a big thing as well Mass transit and big public gatherings are very rare in MV and SA|1 This is scary |0 Is it really a free country if you cant choose between not getting treatment for your cancer and dying or putting your family in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debtI didnt think so socialists|0 You should know that your anal temperature is naturally going to read as 12 degrees higher than your oral temp a fever is anything over 1005 or 1003 Something around there You still have a fever but not as severe as an oral temperature of 101|1 FFS why would anyone move to NZ live in a bunker sunk in the ground when it is one of the most seismically active Islands on the Globe Even as an Aussie i wont bugout to therr|0 And it needs to be posted 500 times more Stop complaining there are new people coming to the sub every day and posts quickly disappear from view|0 Theyve stated for the next 60 days any sick days taken will not count against PTOThats really a thing Wow Good that its being suspended but still|1 That was my guess too looks like I was under I figured 5000 cases as of Saturday|1 Uh because it hasnt spread yet It seems to spread MUCH EASIER than the flu and is far far more deadly at least 10xAnd beyond deaths like 14 of infected need ICU care to breathe which nowhere is remotely capable of handling if it spreads like the normal flu The only thing preventing it from being everywhere right now is people freaking out and not going outside|0 The death count in Italy is so high What an unprecedented time we are experiencing|0 Those limey bastards|0 USA is still checking passengers from China but not passengers from Italy even though its spreading much more in Italy than China where most people have recovered and they only had 14 new cases Racism is what will kill you|0 Trump is the worst President the USA has ever seen|0 Beautiful flu the best goddamn flu in the world|1 Transparent and trust worthy government|1 Yeah From what my Biomed teacher has been saying if you wash your hands it helps Also something he told us today was that a study showed that a cough can spread the virus to people up to 6ft away but if you cough into your sleeve someone would have to stick their face in your sleeve pretty much right after to be infected So if you follow the basic rules you learned in elementary you can help stop the spread|1 Theyre not sanitizing the entire country Theyre providing free testing for everyone and isolating people who are positive|1 I dont think op was trying to justify sinophobia or racism Just pointing out that being sceptical of the PRC because of their history is important and not the same thing as sinophobia or racism|0 When that happens I hope they waive the costs for treatment It will be a double nightmare to contend with insurance on top of that|1 Source that please I thought reinfection was a thing|1 My understanding is that flu season is normally rather stressful on our health system It cannot possibly be fine to have another illness spreading around which compared to the flu seems to be more communicable is harder to get tested for has no vaccine has no treatment available beyond easing symptoms and btw is potentially 10 times deadlier I believe more people require hospitalization than with the flu as wellIm not saying the world is ending but its clearly a serious situation|0 Im toggling between the COVID subreddits and rEyebleach for occasional breaks Im obsessed with reading updates and peoples stories Breaks for nice things are needed though|1 Not being facetious but leave to where Cases appear to be popping up across the world|0 Its assuming 70 million people get it which is a lower end estimate of what could happen if its not contained|0 Corona treatment will be free|1 So your answer is that there are no answers There is a simple one youre dead from the disease or cured from the disease Its pretty simple We will see as the numbers come in The biggest issue is to ignore the China numbers|0 Its okay Mike Pence will pray for you after you die from overwork|0 You dont necessarily need to be a trained doctor to see the signs in the scan Covid19 has a distinctive signature which makes it easily identifiable via CT It presents bilaterally and worsens very quickly|0 you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019nCoV infection so they do work what the fuck is this|0 I mean thats kind of the human thing to do so good for them I guess Now lets open up all the streaminggame libraries to encourage everyone to stay home|1 I dont want to say that Im betting on this but its definitely going to be a factor Something to remember is that the numbers coming out of China are based on the conditions in China Its entirely possible that the infectiousness and severity of this disease says more about structural problems in the country than the disease itself|0 Honestly thats not a great place to be Better to be prepared and not need it than to succumb to optimism bias and starvation|1 What in the actual fuck This feels willful at this point|0 I seem to recall somebody posting that there were clear decreases in fatalities among severe patients when it was added to their treatment guidelines too but I dont have the source offhandI think weve got some real promise between chloroquine and remdesivir cocktails|1 To be fair they were about to be made obsolete by Amazon anyway between the web service and the unmanned storesTime for them to find one of the many many inexpensive 1y trade schools and pick up a trade before its too late Plumbing may not be the easiest work but it does pay decently and we wont be obsoleting water and toilets anytime soon swapping robotcomputer parts for a company is like lego im many cases Just saying theres always going to be low to unskilled work available even if not in the same fields and positions Many jobs disappeared over the years and people said the same thing Im sure there will even be unskilled work from home jobs soon|1 Kitty has a slight fever and I cannot take him to the vet Makes me sad|0 The authority to shut down large cities would for the most part be a state government issued order not a federal one The federal government might be able to shut down travel across state boundaries and so the metropolitan areas around some cities eg Kansas City New York City Washington DC and maybe Chicago would get segmented But actually shutting down a city would require that State government to get involved The next problem is going to be enforcing such an order If we take the size of the Current US Army at 476000 and assign 30 people to each crossing 3 shifts with 8 people per shift 6 additional personnel that comes to 15866 crossings My metro area DC has 8 crossings between DC and Virginia that are visible on google maps plus 2 or 3 additional ones underground Between DC and Maryland it is much higher as that is a very porous land border This also does not include the fact that someone can legitimately cross the border to go to a Grocery or Pharmacy store I am aware of a neighborhood on one side of the border whose closest grocery store is literally on the other side of the border as the border is just a road There is also a hidden foot path that connects a neighborhood on one side of the border with its closest grocery store on the other side of the border|0 midnightblueeyesI get it man I work in a hospital and coworkers just dont wanna hear about it at first though they scoffed nothing but a flu they nearly all said this when death county hit 2000 the mass quarantine reports they suddenly get quiet and conversations are shortOur medical board has procedures in place but in my country its nearly 100 selfquarantine reliant And we all know how well thats worked so far across the world It doesnt because it requires 100 of peeps compliance when one breaks the whole thing falls downMy whole family is worried it will come here and even with their health restraints its possible they may become serious cases|0 lol your username |1 I know Again remember that this may be biased since some mild cases arent tested but its still not good Let others know People need to wake up|0 Look up the common side effects It basically just gives you more or worse symptoms|0 Should they really be separated in these trying timesLmao Thanks for the laugh|1 My cpap masks dont last long The rubber seal can last a year of daily use but the straps on the headgear lose elasticity in months|0 Yeah they did Im all for stocking up but 1000 and they havent even gotten food Now cmon|1 All the central and south americas are safe Meet you guys there|1 HIV is an extreme case That virus is extremely good at evading our immune system Just like malaria parasites Coronaviruses on the other hand are eventually recognized by our immune system and they are attached but it efficiently and most patients clear up the infection easily|1 Good luck considering in the us 90 of people 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no knowledge of the virus itself the censoring was more or less a local affair and his silencing did not change the course of anything much Yes he is a hero for risking his reputation although unknowingly to spread the information of a potential new outbreak In her case we already know its an extremely contagious virus and its not a question of if but when so knowing the state of the spread that actions to contain it can be taken is crucial What in the hell are govermental agencies of US thinking|0 Great news If only they can find stuff to buy |1 I wonder whether it appears to extremely high because theres an inherent selection bias deaths are more vigorously investigated than an incident of short illness and recovery|0 America fuck yeah|0 You realise the main group that is dying from the virus are elderly with pre existing conditions Are horrible as it sounds they are not really required to function|0 Someone better tell Trudeau and his health officials asap|1 Im currently in a city of 5 million just outside Beijing Relative had to go to the hospital here because of a fall Not much busier than normal Wuhan might be struggling but everywhere the only major effect is everyone is still at home|0 Based on the information of the timeits exactly what WHO was saying as well and is typical of coronaviruses we are familiar with So I have no issue with that Im more interested in his take no prisoners attitude where he thumbs his nose at criticism I couldnt imagine a person like Clinton behind the desk who calculates how it will poll before she decides if its ok to take a shit in the morning|0 China is lying about the kill ratio the same way the US is lying about the kill ratioThere are people in China who died of these but people just did not know So will the ACTUAL kill rate be different because China doesnt know the full amount of people infected Yes Plenty of people who are sick but show no signs Then no it isnt my logic That is how China does death for all diseases|0 Thanks|1 Fuck Another one from the US As a grown ass adult Im scared shitless of whats going to happen after March Break|0 Agreed his influencer wife is known for scamming people|1 The company I work for gave an update to the Penceled task force that we could manufacture and provide 1 million tests within a week and could continue with providing 1 million tests on a weekly basis That was a week and a half ago and we have no issue making and providing the tests to buy There is bullshit going on to disavow the virus in the USA entirely and I fucking hate whats going on I suspect its simply to keep the numbers low so the overall administration doesnt look bad so they can claim that they confirmed cases is lowBut this is such bullshit People need to know what the situation really is so they know not to continue going out which means prompt and accurate testing And instead of pumping money into the financial institutions to prop up a market decline do something to actually help Have a program that subsidizes income for people who cant or shouldnt work or need to stay home to care for children whose schools have closed Stop denying testing Properly screen people entering the country Implement quarantine instructionsIm so angry at everything that is happening in the country now and its so awful to think that I have no real power to change it|0 How many deaths would there be if the economy stopped overnight Id rather face a pandemic over rioting looters smashing into my house|0 A colleague of mine also had a quick onset pneumonia last week with heavy fever she tried to get checked but the doc just told her to not come in and isolate close to Heinsberg She was back at work this week after feeling better Its crazyI wish you all the best and I hope people at risk can isolate themselves|1 Thats fine with me care to share|1 I agree of course hell spin it to look like that Just like what Mao did with his Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution Theres no end to CCP brainwashing and using their people as expendable resource to do so Fuckin commies|1 lol|1 My point is not that heroin and virus are the same rather that its not uncommon for laws to not be properly enforced|1 Is there any data on how long youre contagious for when you have it Are people ok after theyre feeling recovered|1 Thats what happens when all types of funding for hospitals have been constantly cut for the past 20 years|0 People are a strange thing most of us believe we are fairly typical but thats seldom trueOne of the saving graces I believe with this type of virus is its highly seasonal and should peak naturally in a few months time we may have new waves later in the year though With sensible responses from governments outside China this is likely to be contained similarly to other outbreaks Im not saying its going to be nice Im just saying there are greater risks at present than the virus itself|1 Bill Gates may be involved in CEPI but this is not his foundation From the CEPI websiteCEPI has secured760 milliontoward its1billionfunding target with multiyear funding from Norway UK Germany Japan Canada Ethiopia Australiathe Bill Melinda Gates Foundation andWellcome CEPI has also received singleyear investments from the governments of Belgium The European Commission provides substantial financial contributions to support relevant projects through its mechanisms|1 FOS Free Dorm for Racists and Conspiracies Hard thing to manage|0 Youre are part of the problem with medical workers having a shortage of N95 masks that you dont even need|0 Arrogance Somehow us Americans think we are less vulnerable to this The early approach by government definitely fanned the flames to that sentiment|0 I hope this puts a fly in their ear for the future Allowing people to work for home when they want to is better for our environmentinfrastructuremental healthetcMore companies need to embrace it|1 I am from a third world country trust me when I say this Our government is actually doing more for the people than they ever did in the midst of this pandemic I fail to understand how a country like US fails to do so|0 Youre right that DDG doesnt use Google unless you use a DDG bang such as google or g But its also true that DDG search results are mostly based on Bing DDG says emphasis added httpshelpduckduckgocomresultssources To do that DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sourceshttpsduckcoia These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers DuckDuckBothttpsduckduckgocomduckduckbot our crawler and crowdsourced sites like Wikipedia stored in our answer indexes We also of course have more traditional links in the search results which we also source from multiple partners though most commonly from Bing and none from GoogleNote that those four hundred sources are for DDGs Instant Answers DDGs normal search results are most commonly from Bing which is if anything an understatement Theres a little flavoring from DDGs own limited crawler and other partners such as Yandex for Russian content but its mostly Bing|1 Its not lol|0 So Who cares|1 Therein lies the biggest problemWe may yet rue the decision to outsource all of our manufacturing|0 Cool Thankyou This was in the articleThe NRC reportsthat half the patients in the ICU may be under 50 because the number of people in that demographic is just relatively bigger than in other countries It could also be that these numbers are completely representative because there just arent that many coronavirus patients in the ICUSo it may or may not be a big concern Good to keep in mind Id rather get it sooner than later|1 They tried to cover up this inconsistency by saying that healthcare professionals are trained in wearing a mask Despite the fact that many people actually are or can easily be trained to fit a mask|1 Id take advantage of their complacency and stock up on your preps|1 Theres no such thing as karma otherwise all of the evil people in the world would have been punished already Also gotta love how this thread doesnt have anyone wishing death on boomers but you made sure to preemptively call young people a bunch of whiny snowflakes anyway|0 100 2 days ago I was laughing CV was something I read about in the news Italy US Germany Not here in a little 6000 town in SpainToday even here everything is closed church cancelled schools closed retail stores closed andI couldnt believe it even here people hoarding TP papertowels etc|1 sounds like typical pnumonia|1 Its all just on the table for now You see its all low risk Says every idiot and their grandma|0 well ive been choosing the subs with the largest amount of followers possible and then writing it to them like anarcharycapitalism im trying to get greater numbers to see the info i even posted on some major news networks i think wuflu doesnt like that and they probably do want the brave documentarians to stop as wellim trying to be choosey about the info and sources if i can to assert and affirm legitimacy|1 I dont agree with everything you say but I feel your pain in my heart I am just as tired of being jumpstarted knowing how many will die before anything significant shifts the situation I am sick and tired of reading these articles and I am at day one of national confinement It is a long cruel road ahead as if it hasnt been traumatising enough already to watch the torture previous victims have had to endure how millions of people are languishing for help and begging to be respected as humans And this is just in the first world never mind countries that dont stand a chance the homeless and the refugees stuck in nomans land while all the borders around them are locking up I am tired of being a human|0 monopoly on violence and law is not nearly the same thing as monopoly on commerce|0 OPEC suggests they will reduce production due to falling demand from China|0 As a Canadian I cant imagine paying that much to ensure youre healthy Im sorry your healthcare system is not easier on the pocket I once had to pay 250 for a 20 min ambulance ride and my student insurance reimbursed 100 of it|1 Heres the link to the actual study httpssciencesciencemagorgcontentearly20200313scienceabb3221fullIts in the article but its always good to go straight to the source and see their methods to ensure that the article isnt misrepresenting the conclusion|1 I dont think if Epstein didnt suicide but actually died from coronavirus recently could raise any awareness of virus People would just think he deserved it unfortunately It has to be a good guy|0 Yeap in my circle I as a Hungarian take it only seriously in Tampere and my new Persian colleague who knows the current hell in Iran Everybody else it is just a flu and wash your hands Nobody understands apart from the COVID we will start run out of medicines in the near future One by one At least I am prepared to watch outside from the comfort of my sauna while sipping my stockedup cold beers|0 Theyre called Snowbirds and yes we have manyYou cant drive thru Miami in December without seeing tons of Quebec license plates|1 A girl in my office went to Disney World earlier this week She came back to work today and was immediately sent home with a sore throat runny nose and yes and coughing I spent the next hour sanitizing the entire building the best I could |1 I think the verdict is out on Japan I am not convinced we are seeing exponential undetected spread in Japan right nowIm sorry but I dont see how you could possibly think this Japan has had community transmission all across the country for at least a month now Do you believe the Japanese people are imbued with something that makes them special unlike Koreans Chinese Italians Americans and every other country that saw community transmissionThe cases are exploding and are not being tested for The hospitals are not being overwhelmed because the people here truly believe only 1 or 2 people in my town have it so are not concerned or asking to get tested for mildmoderate symptoms|1 Right decision and necessary to help mitigate the peak case load weeks down the road As a southern California resident thank you Disney You should probably consider the same for Florida too|1 Also the more cases we know about the larger the population on which to run clinical trials which can help speed up the search for a treatment or a vaccine|1 Simple google search can show you people started over buying on TP weeks agoAnd preppers only fueled that panic Every conversation about prepping only fuels panicThere are no shortages|0 I dont trust this whatsoever There is nothing here to even denote he is taking any medical precautions or an actual medical worker No cases have ever denoted that rabid mortality rate at all AnywhereYou dont just suddenly drop dead after instantly being symptomatic Thats is not how the virus behaves at all|0 Hmm I should get a mask to prevent infecting others right Proceeds to leave quarantine and potentially infects dozensI swear between the governmentss neglect and peoples stupidity this virus wont be contained unless we get very lucky|0 It may be a virus that has little effect on the animal but a more severe effect in humans Such as how hiv transferred over from a breed of monkeys and is more destructive in humans|0 I work for Darden too and my coworkers scoff at those who are worried and wearing gloves I am immune compromised so Ive been really anxious If people knew how unclean restaurants really are they wouldnt be out|0 i wonder if the people who are infected from the asymptomatic carriers get less serious infections due to a lower viral load|0 No Phoenix|0 Well you cant buy masks or antibacterial gel unless you are rich now so yes we are in trouble|1 Thats good to read|1 Its not universally the same I dont accrue time at my job Im given two weeks a year If I dont use it then its forfeited as it doesnt carry over nor will they pay you for it I also dont have sick days My wife does accrue hers and also doesnt get sick days So depending on where you live or even where you work its completely understandable that one may not understand how someone elses leave works In the US it varies greatly from one company to the next So much so that when I was a fireman I got 30 days a year of paid time off and literally 364 paid sick days a year Granted there are certain requirements that must be met to use the sick time|1 Not to be condescending but the Developed Markets growth had depended almost entirely on debt for the last decade Chinas debt to GDP has doubled from 150 to almost 300 These used to be figures associated with pathetic third world economies Now its the norm This is the longest and weakest economic expansion in US history already Yes the central banks will lower interest rates and ease monetary policy but theres only so much they can do when we were essentially overdue for a recession already BTW its no coincidence that wealth inequality has skyrocketed during this period Low interest rates drove up asset pricesbenefiting those who had them ie the wealthy and penalizing those who might ever hope to buy them ie the poor|1 Start listening to the scanners people Youll be able to pick up some details about the guys age Im sure|1 At least influenza cases are being tested in BC Im not sure other provinces have been so prudent|0 This virus isnt going anywhere for 18 months till there is a vaccine Are we gonna stop living life and just sit at home for 18 months Im not Im prepared at home if quarantine but am aware of people around me at work and stores who may be coughing and sick If I have to wear a mask to go out to enjoy life I will I am concerned as asthmatic with chronic bronchitis and Pneaumonia and worry that my lungs are not 100 as it is and if infected with the virus how I will handle it|0 Take a look at Hubei Are you ready I dont think anyone can be ready But please be safe and educate those around you how to keep themselves safe|1 Wish I could upvote this more than once This is our administration They are not uninformed but they want the rest of us to beInformation is power|1 Nah you cant argue that the time line made it unnecessarily complicated especially when you dont know the background|1 mom please stop youre embarrassing us|0 Its bad and authoritarian policy not necessarily socialism|0 Comin again to save the motherfuckin day yeah|1 Yeah its pretty fucked my brothers wife works in the Bronx and they are getting overflow positive covid19 patients sent there from Manhattan|1 Ireland isnt like the United States|0 Thank you Its important I hope so too but its so much better to be safe than sorry please keep us updated My fingers are crossed for everyon ehere Also in case nobody else as passed it your way someone put together a good sub for Ohioans here rcovid19ohio youd be very welcome in Its going to be important for us to keep each other in the loop Again keeping you and everyone involved in my thoughts and hoping for the best here|1 same thats my main reason for being ultra safe my abuelos are both around 90 and i usually visit them once a week ive been trying to be super careful for them but with such a long incubation period and such subtle symptoms for us young adults im nervous about unknowingly spreading it to them|1 Yes but that is because we have vacinee and immunity to many of those viruses|1 Fixed it Top US health official says coronavirus testing system is failing has failed|0 Storm is a teacup is the most accurate comparison i have read so far Also a sentence ive never heard before Nice|0 A new meaning to having my Corona goggles on heh|0 But its cool that I go to 150 houses and businesses a day and let all of them touch my pen right Delivery girl here|1 Yes Switzerland really only tests people who are seriously ill or a risk group of COVID19 Now a shitload of healthy people with no sympthoms have COVID19 but dont know it a lot of such people are rejected to making the tests which is foolish as these people spread it around everyone else so it will effect risk groups either way Our federal government did take soft measures against the Coronavirus and took far to long to do so we had two weeks in advance when we see Italy is next door we should have acted and closed the borders when Italy was at the very initial stage of the outbreak We should have closed the borders for privat travel except these foreigners who work in our health care system Our government wasted to much time Only several cantons are acting instead of the federal government the should call the state of emergency for EVERY canton|0 Canadians dont experience anything ever so they think itll never happenAusies have god damned fire tornados they know how to be ready for shit cause shit happens there Smart folks|0 Most schools are already closing as of tomorrow I just got a message that we shouldnt come in tomorrow and i would presume that most schools across the country are doing the same except maybe kindergartens etc where parents have to figure out who will care for their kids if they have to work|1 for the public its PR stuntfor Uber drivers its a sad joke|0 Yeah Theres nothing beyond their p values as evidence and anyone who has been doing science long enough knows that p values are necessary but not sufficient for research You need a p value with experiments that align with your theory Im just saying the paper is weak and shouldnt be taken as fact|0 Uhhh I feel super weird now that this is coming to light like 6hrs after i said this|1 Saying Broward is Miami is like saying Snohomish county is Seattle|1 Downvotes for a simple question just to verify his statement Some people on this subreddit are crazy|0 Yeah but my national media says its twice slower than SARS Funny isnt it|1 This disease But there are long term studies of viruses or diseases like this EX Sars Linkhttpswwwnaturecomarticless4141302000845|1 Your feelings are justified Its hard to convince some people this is serious when the numbers of confirmed cases and the number of deaths are so small right now Its proving nearly impossible to ask people to change their lifestyles for a short period of time when its currently seeming like everything is fine Im sorry youre in this situation Hope you remain well|1 Yeah but there isnt anything we can do about it|1 I work in the camera dept out here in NY Jobs are dropping left and right almost all Local 600 productions have pushed at least 2 weeks if not longer Scary times|1 Im not so sure anymore Lol|1 As a parent whos keeping my kids home I feel the school is being fairly aggressive wanting me to calm down and send them Ill be glad when they just close them|1 This week the CDC released a patient with the coronovirus at the North Star Mall in San Antonio Its the biggest mall in SA They claimed they didnt know the patient had the coronovirus and they chose that location to avoid the media|0 No shit|0 Should be 936 if accurately testing since 0403 should be 615 if accurately testing since yesterday in reality will be 542 due to lack of testing|0 Companies only pay for 12 days of the first 15 days and its not 100 of your salary after those its paid by the state or insurance But I guess that you prefer to get 0 money if you get a disease or you broke your leg 200iq You have no clue about what communism is if you think the government is applying communist rules when this rule exist for many years|0 This was handled very poorly They should have been upfront about it instead of spreading misinformation|0 Well depends whos house you go to surely You just follow the rules as per the hosts example|1 Now this is a great analogy I cant find any reason why people would oppose wearing them Its quite ridiculous|1 Im comparing them as a holiday in themself not as a mode of transit as thats absurdWhen my parents have done cruises theyve been picked up from the city I live in and returned to the city I live inWhen Ive done European holidays Ive caught 89 flights and travelled thousands of kilometres all in a fortnightThe latter simply isnt possible on a cruise ship and has a multiple of the impact on GHGYes its not apples with apples one is a bloody boat The other is a plane You cant make all metrics equal between them especially as economy return to base joy flights arent a thing but in many parts of the world cruise ships will happily pick you up from your local port and return you to it 10 days later If youre flying somewhere to begin your holiday its hard to say anything about the GHG impact of cruise ships without being a massive hypocrit really|1 80100 of those beds are took up already The NHS operates at thepast the maximum capacity at all times These beds are 80100 full all of the time without this virus on top|1 I was raised in the Middle East during Desert Storm We had drills from my mom and dad thank all the gods and goddesses because of gas attacks My mom also might be a little OCD about germs I feel like we have been preparing for this most my life My biggest challenge will be to keep up their spirits as this gets worse But thank you very much|1 But like why Whoever made this didnt do a good job because its infected nearly every countryDisgruntled employee mental health issue extreme green activism weird religion accident lax biosafety rules any of that would be a plausible WHY|0 local subreddits are cancer|0 My state and county just declared a state of emergency all schools are closed workplaces are encouraged to allow telecommuting if possible and large gatherings are banned But people arent able to get Covid19 testing|0 People acted like it was just bad luck that an outbreak first happened in the other nursing home It wasnt bad luck It was just a matter time of time If you have unchecked community spread healthcare workers and family in the community will bring it to the nursing home This is going to keep happening|1 Ive reported you already Youve READ this somewhere literally all tf you have to do is supply a link to where you read them Its not a fucking dissertation its literally against the rules of this sub to spread disinformation so asking to provide sources is the only way to prevent that Also I cant believe Im taking the bait youre obviously a troll but I am the last person who would be posting in td fucker is 100 at fault for the shitty response to the epidemic He was literally calling it a hoax 1 or 2 weeks ago Quit your bullshit you dont agree with me obviously youre one of them mentality|0 I saw that And then a Chinese ambassador retweeted it Then they deleted and posted a real picture Some dumbass intern is getting fired|0 Is this true I just tried to read the following link but its still behind a paywall Im in Japan btwhttpswwwnytimescom20200309healthcoronavirusisverydifferentfromthespanishfluof1918hereshowhtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200309healthcoronavirusisverydifferentfromthespanishfluof1918hereshowhtml|1 This is pretty standard with most respiratory viruses Its definitely not preferred for a novel virus like covid19 mainly because of public health reporting for a pandemic But as far as treatment for individual cases getting tested is not important mainly because treatment is going to be the same as it would for any other respiratory virus If your friend is healthy nonimmunocompromised and no diagnosis of hypertension they really shouldnt be worried unless they begin to have difficulty breathing Testing should be left for those with serious comorbidity|1 I dont think that foodnecessity shortages are going to be an issue unless theres no support for workers who cant do their jobs and arent getting paid but stocking up ahead of time means that you can avoid public places and long lines when shit really hits the fan or if you have to go into quarantine|0 Manslaughter charges down the line|0 Companies like Apple are just pocketing the difference Thats how they ended up with a cash reserve of 250 billion They have huge profit marginsBut at least Apple is putting that cash in a pile for future use instead of just lining their pockets like upper management in America has usually been doing since the early 1980s Those people heightened the value of cheaper merchandise through wage stagnation|1 I stayed there for a week its fine Jfc I was in an Afghani neighborhood if it was a warzone I wouldve noticed|1 Im glad Ottawas doctor is talking about this urgently nowBut Ive been baffled by so many public health people in the past 2 months The ones Ive seen on TV especially have downplayed this for the past 2 months at every stage theyre 2 steps behind regarding showing the urgency for the situation And then theres this guy former Chief Medical Officer for Ontario during SARShttpswwwtheglobeandmailcomopinionarticlestrictlybythenumbersthecoronavirusdoesnotregisterasadirehe wrote Is COVID19 a global crisis Certainly for people who cant add just last week I dont know whats wrong with those particular doctors but its bizarreI think some of them are frankly out of their depth when talking about nonmedical issues but they get listened to just because theyre doctorsI think the other issue is that they naively believed Chinas stats which were lies And they believed the WHO but that info was based on Chinas fake stats tooAs someone wrote in another post theyve probably been too busy to dig online for whats actually happening in other countries but could have taken a bit of time for thatAnd many still keep saying 80 of people have mild to moderate illness and then recover but I think its too soon to really know how well people recover I read recently that SARS left longterm lung damage in some many cases|0 And I will not stop linking this articlehttpswwwpoliticocomnews20200302azarcrosshairsdelayscoronavirustests118796This was a management failure said one administration official charging that Azar didnt adequately plan for a worstcase coronavirus scenario thats grown more likely by the day even though Azar touted his bona fides as a veteran of the George W Bush administration where he helped fight crises like SARS and an anthrax scare CDC and FDA should have been working hand in hand to get Plan B Plan C and Plan D ready to go the official saidThe administrations response has been reactive not proactive added a former HHS official A lot of what has happened has been driven by outside pressure like public health labs sounding the alarm that they were unable to perform the CDCs tests|0 I dont understand how the crematoriums were backlogged when the disease supposedly has only a 2 death rate Is that a lie as well|0 Id gladly stay home for 2 weeks if it didnt mean not getting paidI would too but I cant even miss more than 2 days in a row without getting a doctors note If I dont have a note Im fired Many people are in the same situation The only realistic way to prevent the spread is to quarantine everyone and gaurantee sick pay|0 That would be an error Choking the virus requires shutting everything down at the same time Letting regions take turns just means longer overall quarantines between regions before the problem is under control|0 No need for insider info on this one The market did not price in the coronavirus even when Italy was having its meltdown I am a long term investor but decided this is a black swan event nothing to do with the normal bullbear cycle and I got out I was really surprised how long it took for the market to drop|0 Yeah well Im on edge but nobody else around me seems to be|1 you mean like thishttpswwwwashingtonpostcomarchivepolitics19791217reportsuggestsciainvolvementinflaillnesses5b10205e170b4e38b64e2e9bca8f50dfor thishttpswwwsmithsonianmagcomsmartnews1950usreleasedbioweaponsanfrancisco180955819probably thathttpwwwdailyunconstitutionalcom1353usgovernmentreleasesmosquitoswithyellowfevercontaminateswatersupplieswithbacteria|1 Definitely whats annoying though is people are still going out when not needed so thats why its gonna take so long We honestly need to enforce quarantine sadly|1 Someone laughing at you is not a crime omg|1 Info source pls|1 Hopefully its VERY like that|1 Doctors are too inexperiencedor more precisely not at all with pandemics to understand this Somehow casual redditors can figure out proactive containment measures are cheaper and far more effective yet professional doctors just allows it to spread for fear of economic decline which happens after the outbreak anyway It really pisses me off Whats even worse is the disinformation provided to the public People are still way too careless right now because everyone seems to think its just another cold Its like they dont see what happened in China and whats happening in Iran and Italy right now|0 You heard stories about going to war not fascism|0 Bat as foodBats are a food source for humans in some areas Bats are consumed in various amounts in some regions within some African Asian and Pacific Rim countries and cultures including Vietnam Seychelles Indonesia Palau Thailand China and Guam In Guam Mariana fruit bats Pteropus mariannus are considered a delicacy PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 This will be me and I am petrified|0 LOL light weight division My crypto portfolio has dropped over 50 this month so far|1 Lol I have my 1k rounds of 9mm And I see you 1k round of 45 Its too late to prep This is all what the show preppers is about The whole point is to prep for this Not after the fact But to be ready for anything|1 Welding doors shut isnt martial law I guess let the downvotes poor in|0 Its 4 months away Odds are it wont be ready to go but you can wait a couple more months to cancel with few repercussions People are well aware of the possibility so airlineshotels should be prepared for mass cancellations whether they suspend the Olympics today or 2 months from today|0 I visited Chattanooga 2 years ago I think you have a lovely city I only stayed 1 day for business but really want to travel back with my family to explore the area I wish you health|1 Idk I mean if there were more cases in SD why wouldnt they share that Or at least give us a hint that the cases are rising and just give a lower number It wouldnt necessarily cause panic mode if they said yeah theres 3 more people confirmed right I think they would say I hope Guess the key word there is hope But if they arent withholding stuff it doesnt seem like confirmed cases here have gone up since that mishap|1 My bff is getting married in April and I am supposed to be in the wedding She so far so she will not cancel because she will loose thousands of dollars if she does I feel for her but Im wondering if the state will force her hand soon And hopefully if its mandated she will have some recourse for a refund or the ability to reschedule|1 Came here to say this Something like a quarter of the population is over 65|1 Among the few outstanding ones one was even banned from WHO|1 They can only guesstimate Im sure the prospect of being taken to one of those Auschwitz quarantine centres has discouraged many infected patients from seeking medical assistance|0 I honestly have no idea how to interpret Germanys numbers 6000 active cases and supposedly 2 in seriouscriticalFrance has 5000 active cases and 400 in seriouscriticalThat just doesnt seem to make any sense at all|1 Cant trust the government especially here in the US when you realize they dont care about you|0 this is a valid theory I have thought about that a lot i think the virus depends heavily on superspreader events on other situation it spreads much slower we got cases of bus rides without people infected finland a german guy who went home sick slept with his wife and did not spread neither to her nor to his daugter|0 Let it be known for the history books that in our time of need our darkest hour we turned to Taco Bell for guidance|0 Stop denying itIn France the majority of people in the ICU are under 60|0 Its not just better access to tests theyre literally super spreadersSee also anyone at the top of a pyramid shaped corporate structure and I dont mean mlm I mean typical ceos and middle managers etc Everyone acquires the diseases of those they interact with beneath them viruses go straight to the top|1 This will collapse our health care system and destroy our economy and kill millions I still think the media or govt does not put this in strong enough terms|0 But its logically wrong If you dont have ACE2 you literally cant get infected Why dont my cat get COVID19 The same reason They dont have ACE2 If babies dont have ACE2 by logic they cant be infected and cant show up positive|0 In my Homecountry the newspapers doesnt even careThe biggest Newspaper of my country luxembourg had our national car festival on its cover No real article about the outbreak foundOur biggest TV Channel over 90 of our population are watching the news on this channel every day mentioned the virus during those Quick news around the world for about 10 secondsAnd thats itOur governement says that it unlikely that we will be affected with about 3700 chinese living hereAnd everybody believes itA doctor said 2 days ago that we are sooo ready for a potential outbreak Oh yeah he also mentioned that our country has ONE isolation chamber in our biggest hospital the CHLOh and yeah we are the fastest growing country in the western world All of our hospitals are already overcrowded we already dont have enough doctors but hey we are ready rightIve tried to talk about with my grandparents cause currently I live with them because of my studies and they dont take it seriously at allIve told them that we should take some precautions and they just laughed Wow|1 I am home with my 3 teens ive already pulled them out of school and have pretty much self quarantined my family I have had to take them out so they could get some personal products at the store but theyve worn gloves and kept their distance from others We are not infectedI am not relying on the infected to keep us safe Im sure we can all agree Most people are self centered assholes that could care less about you or your familyIf you just imagine that at any given moment it could break out like the beginning of the movie World War Z I think youll be in the right mindset to get through this Nothing wrong with a little panicking if its going to keep you and your family safeMy nephew lives in arizona and I live in california He drives here for work and works in random hospitals building those mobile med carts for nurses While im writing this he just called me asking if he could stay here this week while he was here working He was coughing while he was asking I was like Are you fucking kidding me Thats not happening|1 This is the boat for which they said the quarantine was just a precaution and they had no reason to think anyone was infected right|0 Yeah everybody here are literally panicking lmao Or we could just buy a bit of extra canned food and hand sanitizer that we could use later either way whether shit happens or not Preparation doesnt mean you have to sit inside some bunker or whatever|1 Yes Walmart has next day delivery on a lot of items even Sams club delivers as well Instacart is an option for delivery|1 Yet those in the field epidemiologists and virologists also think our leaders have taken a very lacklustre and bad response Not all experts are not being listened to our government seems to listen with only one ear and ignore what is happening and the warnings we have been given Some might even say that our failings here can be associated with the obsessesion on threatening individual freedoms and keeping the economy stabilised Money lives The measures are hardly draconian if they are supported by evidence It makes no sense that they say they want to flatten the peak and in doing so they act slower These facets sit in contradiction|0 Just a simple question but what are the chances the internet may go down in some areas or in a worst case scenario nationally or globally due to corona virus histaria or possible infrastructure failure|0 Shes 24 whats there to treat U really think that resources need to be wasted on a girl who is more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the hospital|0 Why do you want to create panic|0 US Childrens hospitals are ready Hopefully they wont get slammed|1 But is that just due to quarantine You cant quarantine forever at some point you have to lift it and people will again be exposed|0 In NYC Commuters and coworkers in the office are paranoid about coughs sneezes but no one wears a mask or gloves My office is in time square so theres no way for me to avoid crowds on the subway The executives of my company keep skirting around WFH but it feels like theyre waiting til one of us gets sick before they implement it Ive been warning my friends fam about this since January so they all think Im crazy Theyre buying flights going to parties no one is prepping Feels like Im screaming into a void there isnt even an echo Shits gonna hit the fan a whole generation will be wiped out nothing will be normal for a long time Anybody got a cabin upstate with some room for a girl and her dog cat I can cook will bring my own bleach soap|0 flatten the curve is a joke if YOU DONT TEST PEOPLE Good job South Korea How can the government see this and not take the same steps they took I dont get it|0 If you think about it the rich can get their test kits from another country|1 What do you mean If it is asymptomatic why do people go to the hospital why do people die When someone is infected there is an incubation period 1 to 14 days during which the person has no symptoms but can possibly infect other people Is that what youre talking about|0 The great Punjaba|1 They should refurbish the SS United States as a hospital ship|1 Just wait until an antivaxxer becomes infected Since were talking about clusters of infected people|0 Why are Americans exempt Our country is riddled with the virus|1 Yep one of my good friends is taking out her kids on hikes and camping in large groups Awesome |1 This is literally the only pro tip Ive ever read that I was like holy shit thats information I actually wish I had years ago|1 Hopefully more countries follow suit soon|1 The expert for 4070 was Marc Lipsitch Hes downgraded it to 2060 in light of ostensibly less efficient transmission than early estimates predicted He also thinks that means relatively small NPI like cancelling public gatherings could have a huge impact|1 He seems to apply that it would not affect more than 1 in 1000 people even if a pretty business as usual model is takenThis is contrary to epidemiologists basically everywhere|1 about 100 million dead in the 1918 flu|0 Well they signed a contract to purchase the house after a year so your wish is fucking them Lol every single you comment you make only serves tocmake you look dumber You should disable your reddit account and go do something you might be good at I might suggest a coloring book|1 Really hope that driver gets paid extra for this m|1 The staffing is all set by the government Used to do computer programming stuff for company that owned 400 nursing homes They arent making money just trying to stay afloat Acuity Based Staffing all done by federal mandates Medicare only pays for 90 days than Medicaid take over and doesnt even pay the cost to take care of the patients and you arent allowed to kick them into the street|1 Our wedding is set for mid August Im unsure if it will happen|0 Yes and no Testing did not make people less sick South Korea is still in the containment phase as they rolled out widespread testing right away The US did not and is now no longer in the containment phase Thus widespread testing is meaningless at this point Only advice right now should be Stay home if you feel sick Get tested if you are getting significantly worse|0 Dont be disheartened its not you its them Youre aware of whats going on People with anxiety tend to be constantly checking for threats so when there is one well see it Most people dont look like that so stuff just kind of sneaks up on them I have found that taking action like prepping and teaching my kids to wash hands and harassing my husband about keeping clean has really helped keep me from slipping into a depression|0 I love my state|1 Yeah exactly the Chinese numbers are bs by a factor of 6 after accounting for the population differences size and ages|1 We are well past this pointYou need to keep YOU safeGet ready and dont try to convince peopleThey will get angry and do something that will put you in dangerIve had people cough in my face as a joke when they find out im paying close attention to thisYou have to assume every gun is loaded|0 People who have really had the flu know that it is serious shit Bedsheets soaked in sweat writhing in agony|0 Not saying they all have coronavirus but 3 of my 7 person team in a midtown manhattan office stayed home sick today|0 Thank you for this post|1 Im in Ontario My parents are in Nova Scotia Im prepping supplies just in case my parents dont seem to be worried at all for what Im getting from them nobody is really that worried there I hope they all start taking this a little more seriously|0 Its happened in China and Japan I think its just a feature of this virus Regardless the CDC has disappointed me a lot in the last month|0 Unfortunately the whole situation has more of a 1929type vibe to it|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Technically we have something similar called street office But they are almost powerless and nobody has seen unless you actively seek them out They do arrange some activities for the communities like Childrens night population count and at this time help raise disease awareness|1 In the US only the guard would have been fired|0 Do what Iran did and release the low level offenders|0 I work in downtown Seattle on Mercer street at an upscale grocery storeToday some of our cashiers and a food worker were wearing masks as well as gloves all privately purchased in order to protect themselves and our customersThey were all called to meet with management whi told them that the store was following CDC guidelines and masks were neither necessary nor would they be allowed to use them At leasr one is older with underlying health problems The union has been contacted as wellStill we who get up close and personal with hundreds of people on a daily basis should get the opportunity to be concerned and protect ourselves Who knows what we may pass on or have passed to us|1 How do I specifically target research for the Corona virus There is no option under Any disease Or do I just let it run on any disease|0 It looks like the Brazilian guy got it in the US|1 Not entirely but the government did mandate that all coronavirus victims be cremated no funerals etc|0 Yes that was exactly my point We need to slow the spread until we have more effective measures of fighting it|1 Yeah I mean Im generalising I was in a Japanese restaurant and at one moment I thought the owner was being super sarcastic to a bunch of other foreigners in the way she thanked them although my friend said she was being genuine but speaking slowly and loudly because she thought they were stupid lol I have definitely had great servers in the USBut on balance I find western service staff more obviously pretending their politeness than I find in Japan Maybe its a bias my Japanese is limited so maybe I miss cues that I spot easily in English And to be clear Im not picking on America here in Europe they dont even bother to say theyre happy to be my server they just hand you the menu silently I picked America there because they pay lip service in a way comparable to how in Japan there are certain phrases staff have to say to customers|1 Someone I know had it in Indonesia probably in December already as they flew from wuhan and got a really nasty fever and flu for a week Like seriously bad You can only test in Jakarta and Surabaya iirc Indonesia is just ignoring it|0 They follow them through 710 days at least so they know They had to ask themselves the same question how do we know theyll remain asymptomic they are not stupid and wouldnt write without tracking them|1 We had to hide under our desks The Communist were going to make us work in potato fields and ship off our parents to work in coal mines Thats what we were taught And unions would destroy America Found that a bit bizarre|0 Yeah like everythings going to be fine now the world looks like its literally imploding day after day|1 Thank you Yes I am so sick of everything I mention about China drag into political I saw it happened to another Chinese redditor too he said he is Chinese someone asked what do you think about your government spending money on Africa he said I dont give a damn then the guy was like shouldnt you educate yourself on what your government is spending money on Like yeah right people from other countries have opinions on everything their governments do|1 There are 62188 ventilators in the US Eighty percent are already being used so that leaves about 12438 available The population of the US is 327200000 If half of the population gets coronavirus that would be 163600000 people sick And if 4 of them need a ventilator that would be 6544000 people needing a ventilator And we have 12438 ventilators available Now everyone wont get sick at once of course so lets spread out those ventilator needing people over a period of 12 months we would still need 545333 ventilators at one time And we have 12438 available at any one time Many people will die who might be saved if they could get ventilator treatment|0 If Good friend its already here Im surprised panic buying hasnt taken place yet Its coming within 2 weeks here in the US once the publisher c realizes how its already too late to stop the spread Mark my wordsI REALLY hope Im wrong|1 Well hurry it up I got places to be|1 No but you will be next If the west goes the rest will follow|0 I think people are basing their distrust off of reports that are leaking out of Iran combined with their actions to clamp down coming too little and too lateI think the official numbers are reflecting where they were at least a week ago You dont dig multiple mass graves for 500 deaths nationwide in a country of 80 million|0 Lol the UK will be much better off than the US We have free healthcare and you pay nothing to get checked|1 Do not criticize great CCP or your social credit score go down Moderators only trying to help you by deleting your traitorous post before your foolish actions cost you vital social points CCP is provide all we need|1 Yes this The ONLY reason we are testing ANYONE for COVID19 is because of these people WE NEED THEM They are the adults in the room|1 Should have been fucking done way before now The truth will now come out about the community spread thats been taking place for weeks|1 Given that the Chinese are now finding that people arent recovered after initial clean tests and need extra quarantine given that people are going into a critical state after recovery I think that 589 number is very unreliable to base anything on|1 No what people expect is a madatory quarantine for everyone arriving from China|0 Ok back to accurately panicking|0 Well adults take care of kids kids will then spread to adults|1 So I read 20 are asymptomatic and then theres a continuum to a very bad flu that doesnt require hospitalization though you feel like youre dying for the remainder of the mild illness Most likely you will feel it and it will be uncomfortable You should prepare to be home sick Foods that are easy to make and access Something that makes you feel good with an upset stomach in case Meds to treat typical flu symptoms Extra sheets and blankets Anything you normally need when youre sick and also a plan for petskidsetc Maybe youll get lucky and it will be truly mild Wouldnt hurt to try to boost your immune system toward that end with Vit C and D|0 Hey so sorry youre feeling down Amazing that you spoke to your manager I would be to shy to do that but its really healthy and also that you posted here Were all in this together youre not alone|1 i just assumed that was one of the anti science christian its just the flu people sorry guys|0 This is straight up fucking bullshit and I hate when people who dont know a thing about the US federal government spew this nonsense I worked with multiple US federal scientificresearch agencies on various joint grants when I was a researcher in industry and there are metric fucktons of talented people with incredible credentials from the very best universities papers in top journals etc at places like NIH NSF NIST Census FDA CDC VA Federal Reserve etc etc To get your any sort of new software or research approved at VA lets say you need to run every last aspect of your project by a scientific panel of very senior academics from Harvard NYU Columbia Med much more rigorous of a review process than any company Ive worked in The issue is most of these intelligent genuinely talented types dont make it to leadershipexecutive ES positions organically and obivously arent going to be appointed as poltiical appointees by a deranged ape like Trump Too many of the people who set policy and the agencys agenda and who engage with Congress are careerists and opportunistic bullshitters|1 Thank you for your work and for your service to the community|1 Many parttime workers wont have jobs due to lack of customers from the coming quarantines Some other jobs are conducive to working from home a bit but not for extended periods of timeShit is going to get really bad really fast No matter how bad it gets people will still need to work moving food fuel medical supplies etc Farmers will need to keep farmingBut most people are going to have to quarantine to snuff the virus out Otherwise it will become a raging pandemic The economy will be slammed no way around itVarious death rates have been speculated on but nobody knows yet what the longterm death rate will end up being|0 Lets hope none of the staff are asymptomatic carriers|1 Phew I first thought it meant disaster|0 Im assuming its much worse than a lot of people realize and Trump is wanting to hide it because he doesnt want to hurt stocks|0 Which ones do you care aboutAlso why dont you care about other humans|1 Bingo bango A few rich folks are about to get richer|1 China didnt slow anything Their people did though Most are working from home minimize going out especially to crowded places masks sanitizer hand washing etc|1 Wait Isnt Swine flu from Mexico|1 Yes muscle painmyalgia is a symptom|1 All those children are potential carriers as well as the entire rest of the staff Even if the staff doesnt have a 60 year old working the children and staff have families of their own with parentsgrandparents|1 Oh damn bet hes glad he was there|1 Id say a good mixture of both They arent talking much about what its like to actually be infected but from what Im hearing its really no picnic Like Take a really bad flu turn it up to 11 and throw in a side of extra pain with difficulty breathing Even if the death rate were 0 no one wants to get this Everyone wants to minimize the spread too We all just want this end So we do what we can to prevent both being exposed and exposing other The reports seem clear that this can be passed on during incubation before any symptoms appear So anyone could be carrying Its nice that people are actively keeping distance|0 If you need help exiting the country just contact your embassy at Wuhan or whatever city it is Im sure theyre happy to helpThere are also Chinese tourists abroad who wants to come back and asked for the local embassy for assistance Succeeded|1 3050 accuracy The problem is the place they take sample isnt virusrich|0 That would be a hell of a Mandela effect if he is from the universe where like Jeb won or something|1 Yep there is a reason theyve been calling it a NOVEL coronavirus|1 Glue in your lungs binds the Coronovirus organisms to eachother and they kill each other with pneumonia The only cure that works 100|0 No thats when it was confirmed He had symptoms from at least January the 10th Ill get a source 2 secshttpswwwbbccouknewsampworldasiachina51403795He was actually in hospital by Jan 12thHe didnt even get the test until Jan 30th He is a doctor he knows what he is talking about|0 I understand and I am so sorry youre going through this What hit me this morning was an article I read about the nursing home residents in Washington State and how their families cannot go in to be with them and they are dying alone while their families wait outside and peek through windows and tap on them to try and get the attention of their mother or father or grandparent inside their rooms Some have dementia so I can imagine how confusing and scary this must all be for them I felt so sad thinking that some of these elderly patients must be confused wondering why their family never comes to see them and not understanding why they cant Feeling abandoned as their health deteriorates etc Its just a rotten situation over there and my heart goes out to everyone patients families healthcare workers city and county leaders first responders etc I have an elderly mother Shes not in a nursing home but just imagining what she would be going through in the same situation broke my heart for those going through it|0 Same here Expected it to be bad but didnt expect the level of incompetence shown in various areas of the world And people still being selfish|0 kids under age 1 have been getting sick and my cousin whos four had something that scarily resembles the Virus but my uncle and aunt didnt take the test so who knows what che really got|0 Fuck off with this shit The mods are doing a good job keeping the control freaks at bay Give me the information and let me judge for myself If you cant handle using your own brain then you shouldnt be here|0 I think a lot of people want to follow the baby because of their own children Of course we all want the baby to be fine but this is the first NON Chinese baby afaik|1 taking care of yourself and your actionsThis is exactly why they need to release the flight number so those people can take care of themselves|1 1 Be honest and truthful people are not stupid and when they work it out theyll comply with sensible measures Problem there is there is so little trust to begin with 2 Ramp up supplies of drugs The Supply chain is broken Double whammy China shutdown and India not allowing many compounds to be exported 3 Get the army engineerssupportlogistics fully equipped with temporary buildings that can be deployed at short notices 4 Take care of our health staff Maximum effort keeping them safe heavens knows we need them now 5 Make sure there is community testing ASAP of as many as possible a slow response to outbreaks and pockets is going to cost lives 6 Ramp up supply of Chloroquine7 Work out how to keep people at home with money to live and pay rents 8 Tell everyone to isolate as much as humanly possible Close schools 9 Open Channels for sharing data the science community has been brilliant the gov could learn10 Start to think about the end game and how to bring this virus to check mate|1 similar to Trudeau yesit just causes more panic and they want to avoid it|0 Vaccine no Treatment yes Gilead has a treatment right now|1 Whoa now Expecting parents to take care of their children and provide for them instead of smoking cigs drinking and methsomebodys advocating responsibility Sounds racist|0 Im in Hongkong We dont trust our government to do good contact tracing quarantines Everybody wears masks except some foreigners Look at the rate of spread in Hong Kong At one point HK had the most cases outside of China We just hit 100 cases including a few from the cruise who came back to HK Im in the wear masks properly and wash hands camp About to see a friend TMR whos going to manufacture some more masks|1 1 These are rights workers already had up until Ford taking them away and businesses did fine If you cant afford to pay your workers fairly youre doing business wrong 2 EI is federal not provincial Companies and workers can lobby the federal government to get EI to cover the sick pay but it never should have been taken away at the provincial level without something in place to replace it|0 Im a housekeeper at a hotel in Vancouver and I feel like Im pretty much guaranteed to get it and Im scared|1 I get sick every year but I power through|0 Its very sad but the west is in for a rude awakening due to a 1 lack of political will and 2 lack of civil cooperationI think freedom and individual liberty have gone to the heads of many people in the west They dont seem to want to prevent spread for the benefit of the old in their society boomer hate and they laugh or ridicule people who wear masks Many also refuse to change their existing ways they see it as defeat by the virusI have no doubt things will change when they reach Northern Italy proportions but that will cost hundreds of deaths minimum Not to mention lots of patients with permanent organ damage loss of fertility for men and other side effectsI said many times before the public will only be cajoled into doing something when a celebrity dies We literally need a Dclass celebrity to pop their clogs for the country to unite into action and go to war against the virus This is the only time when the masses seem to act look at the Caroline Flack case|0 Also fever is your bodies natural method of killing the virusThats actually not true at all look it up The fever turns your bodies factories of antibodies and immune cells up to a fever pitch so youre conceptually sound but it has zero to do with the high temp killing virus|0 Oh sorry Looks mostly like they are colluding and discussing best way not to look shadytrying to remember Im also on mobile now|1 Actually LAS FALLAS its a different noun than failure falla refers to the things they burn|0 Not a death sentence but there are fertility issues so hopefully you dont get it if youre young either ACE2 Expression in Kidney and Testis May Cause Kidney and Testis Damage After 2019nCoV Infectionhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022418v1 On Feb 3 2020 WHO confirmed 17238 cases of novel coronavirus 2019nCoV infections in China Among them 2296 13 cases were reported as severe and 361 deaths were declared 2 Members of the coronavirus family responsible for severe acute respiratory syndrome SARSCoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome MERSCoV are known to be responsible for severe complications during pregnancy 12 pregnant women were infected with SARSCoV during the 200203 pandemic Four 57 of seven women in the first trimester had a miscarriage In the second to third trimester two 40 of five women had fetal growth restriction and four 80 of five women had preterm birth one spontaneous three induced for maternal condition Three 25 women died during pregnancy In a review of 11 pregnant women infected with MERSCoVten 91 presented with adverse outcomes six 55 neonates required admission to the intensive care unit and three 27 died Two neonates were delivered prematurely for severe maternal respiratory failure Considering that the 2019nCoV seems to have a similar pathogenic potential as SARSCoV and MERSCoV pregnant women are at increased risk of severe infections there are no specific clinical signs of coronavirus infections preceding severe complications coronaviruses have the potential to cause severe maternal or perinatal adverse outcomes or both and the current lack of data on the consequences of a 2019nCoV infection during pregnancy we recommend systematic screening of any suspected 2019nCoV infection during pregnancy If 2019nCoV infection during pregnancy is confirmed extended followup should be recommended for mothers and their fetuseshttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620303111fulltext|0 Do the people that get positive test get taken off the ship|1 Parenting is not for the faint of heart friend Id encourage you not to start smoking again though One thing Ive been thinking about a lot is that if the worst DID happen these current days would be my kids last memories of me so Im trying to slow way down and be extra present and patient with them|1 Oh my gosh that is scary If not mentally ill theres something seriously wrong with these people|0 Most of the healthcare workers I know lean pretty left they seem to have latched onto the lol its no worse than the flu the panic is driven by racism angle despite the death rate being so high even in official numbers|0 Thats huge We need to do it everywhere|1 Somone tested positive in my town last week but its not on the official list Very strange|0 I live in northern WisconsinI told my kids last week it will be here soonSum bitch why cant I be right about lottery numbers|0 People tend to discount bad news in far off placesEnd of January was also the turning point for me when it went from hmm thats concerning to I should actively check my supplies emergency kits|0 No man Forget it There is no way out|0 In that study with 1099 patients what I get from it is that while nonsmokers were the majority of all cases observed there was a lower proportion of them who developed severe symptoms Exsmokers only represented 19 of all patients overall but they represented 52 of severe cases 126 of all patients were current smokers but current smokers represented 169 of severe cases That study does NOT look good 9 out of 21 exsmokers 42 and 29 out of 137 current smokers 21 suffering severe symptoms Vs 134 out of 927 neversmokers 14 Looks like a history of smoking increases your chance of developing severe symptoms in a notnegligible manner|0 Thank you jack ma thank you|1 Oh how difficult that must be for those mothers though I think theyre making the right call|0 the list of countries and people that hid bad news in the beginning would go from here to the moon not saying it was right but saying you should not be so quick to judge|0 Even 40 somethings have very low hospitalization rate I wonder why the rate doubled for 50 somethings|0 The man was there for every outbreak Ebola Sars and etc yet the only time he feared getting infected was when he was on the princess diamond cruise damn|0 The Dutch They would fuck their grandma for 10 bucks|0 How to suit up for medical staff fighting SARS cov2proper PPE attirehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfb7tetpperequiredtogointotheredzoneutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 I hope the juice was worth the squeeze|1 If that seems generous unless he means total social distancing for nonessentials combing with masks for shoppingmovement and strong contact tracing|1 You sure USA medical system will make it worse Really You dont think people will be lining up to pay a couple grand and get a covid19 test And tests for their family Isnt everybody just super excited to finally be able to use that extra funds account they have been saving all this time in case of a pandemic so they can pay for their own quarantine|0 Hey if him having it means the government will finally accept the consequences of ignoring this issue then we might finally get them to make real changes Im not trying to hit him with my car Im not sending him the virus through the mail He could have a really mild case of it and recover And I hate that this is where Im at But I am so frustrated trying to get real action and get our government to follow the expert opinions People who dont have the ability to make the changes are getting it and dying from it He has the ability to possibly make changes that would stop this Maybe he will figure this out without actually getting the virus and if so great|0 Yeah true Its an effect of the selection bias that we cant avoid during the early stages of an epidemic|1 Australia needs to hear this as well|1 On Feb 22 Italy reported 63 cases and a second death A little more than a week later there were 2036 cases with 140 patients in serious condition and 52 deaths Today the numbers continue to climb with more than 9100 cases and 460 dead and on Monday the government expanded travel restrictions to the entire countryUS at 975 cases and 30 deaths Where will we be in a week|0 Covid19 is in poor taste I think|0 The extremeness of this comment gave me a laugh|1 All western countries are both antichina and prochina China does so many insane and inhumane things but its everyones biggest trading partner so you cant afford to lose them Nothing will happen|1 pretty sure the world governments were more scared of shutting everything down than of letting the virus run its course they would have had to take drastic action in january when it would have been political suicide now the public would be more amenable but its too late the world just isnt setup to handle stuff like this and its going to be tough for a bit|1 Elderberry httpswwwhealthlinecomnutritionelderberry Summary Elderberry extract has been found to reduce the length and severity of symptoms caused by the influenza virus While these results are promising further largescale human studies are needed|1 The fits look pretty bad to me especially figures 2 and 3|0 How about now lol|1 It might also help to convince his base that this is actually serious Maybe its just me but Ive found the majority of people on my friends list that think its a hoaxconspiracy are Trump supporters|1 Have had that one in my cart for about a week but not sure if I should buy it or not As someone who has zero clue on how these things work is it as simple as plugging it in and turning it on Also did you end up paying the 80 fee for express shipping|0 My boss who is a brilliant woman in nearly all respects intends to go on this rock cruise in a couple of weeks|1 Exactly It would be horrific but is not unfathomable|0 In The Netherlands it is illegal to wear masks in public places If you are confined to using public transport to travel for whatever reason it is illegal to protect yourself against others and others against yourself Let that idiocy sink in for a bit|0 No thats SunnydaleI live in Sunnyvale and have heard this joke before|1 I am not Italian so I dont know I used to live in Italy thats why I was writing in Italian I am in the us where the national ideology is Youre on your ownwe dont give an eff about youpull yourself by the bootstraps We dont have national healthcare mandated parental or sick leave etc We have very minimal safety nets befitting of a third world country and the conservatives still want to take them away even though they are rich as fuck and know nothing of being poor This will be interesting how this crises affects our mentality of capitalistic sociopathy and lack of compassion and empathy and safety nets in the same way the Great Depression gave us some of our most basic safety nets like old age pension which we didnt have before|1 My children are offered flu jabs Ill self isolate them for 12 wks No need to wait for school closures |0 Same been really bought past 4 weeks And now past 2 nights been really struggling to breath keeping me awake which is making me paranoid haha found some amoxicillin from like 4 months ago so gonna take a course of that incase chest infection Hospitaldoctors is last place I want to go atm|1 No country in Europe is testing people other than Italy and now other states are practically isolating Italy|0 Is that with Hong Kong still experiencing rioting and protesting If so then fair play to them|1 Its probably the case fatality rate Most things ive read seem to estimate the mortality rate to be between 71 So still really bad|0 Its almost like they also said a few weeks back that wed have millions of tests by now and anybody that wanted one would be able to get one|1 Im in Nebraska and I was denied a test I filled the symptoms list Monday and called in terrified that they would send me and my husband with the same symptoms to biocontainment Nope Since we didnt travel internationally or knowingly contact anyone with the virus no test Were just getting it over it now both 27 years old and one week later Finally broke fever two days ago hes still coughing We selfquarantined but they cleared me to go back to university 24 hours after my fever stopped Without knowing what I had I just stayed home and then the universities closed They keep announcing on the news that there are no community transmissions here They refuse to test for any of them Theyre here|0 Yeah I havent been to the doctor for a normal seasonal sickness since I was a kid Partly because they wont do anything unless it does turn severe and alsoI dont want to pay for it Maybe thats how the US keeps this under control we dont overrun the hospitals cause no one wants the medical bills|0 Before this id always hoped id live through something massive and unprecedented in history now not so muchedit I mean I do want to live through it haha|1 A huge percentage of people men and women view porn Most of them are not spiraling into addiction If you personally have a problem and cant control yourself get help I am not okay with the moral police|1 coronavrirusesI have to admit just for leaving that mistake in the abstract I would doubt the entire study appearing in this journal|0 am korean Yeah pretty much wherever you go youll see a lot of hand sanitizers Im currently living right next to my uni and they just hired people to check body temperature on campus if you wanna go to the library youll first need to wear a mask or they wont let you in Once you get inside the building they check your body temperature and ask you to sanitize your hand Cafeteria is even more strict You can only sit on certain chairs that uni think is safe enough to protect yourself|1 I absolutely agree|1 Nonin Medical makes a fingertip O2 monitor Cheap and easy way to measure your blood oxygen level at rest If it gets below 95 you got problems and if it hits 92 thats when they send new patients to ICU in China You can test yourself discretely anytime Carry it in your pocket and slip you finger in to get a reading The first thing 2019nCoV goes for is the epithelial lining of your lungs Oxygenation dives Then go straight to the ICU and tell them you were just skiing in the Italian Alpshttpswwwdotmedcomlistingoximeterpulsenoningo2fingeroximeter695611utmsourcebaseutmmediumsearchutmcampaignBasegclidCj0KCQiAhojzBRC3ARIsAGtNtHXrnwZgo4JvxuRsmxDCGOpVP2Yjq7GkF0wSfS7wZBbU6dCxGZEsaAtn0EALwwcBhttpswwwdotmedcomlistingoximeterpulsenoningo2fingeroximeter695611utmsourcebaseutmmediumsearchutmcampaignBasegclidCj0KCQiAhojzBRC3ARIsAGtNtHXrnwZgo4JvxuRsmxDCGOpVP2Yjq7GkF0wSfS7wZBbU6dCxGZEsaAtn0EALwwcBHeres the unbranded one 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Disappointed but not surprised Both Saskatchewan and Manitoba have presumptive positive cases now hopefully that will make people finally take action Im from Manitoba and a lot of my family members there are high risk|1 We have a mask shortage But yea Im wearing goggles and an n95 and people have been very nice to me Maybe its because Im kind of a giant|1 New virus uncharted territory Also new medication could have adverse effectsThis happened in less than 3 months no enough to have proper reviewed researchThose is just the flu preachers are criminals|0 Yes|1 Perhaps he was asked to resign due to his thoughts on the coronavirus andor for sending that letter They could have even marked his resignation date as before the coronavirus warning letter date to ensure both the clinic and the doctor maintain a good image Image means a lot in healthcare|0 Many people are stupid and incapable of assessing risk Our government is supposed to know better The only way to reach these people is to ban mass gatherings in pubs etc|0 Who cares Only the panic ridden zombies are waiting in line to get tested Waste of time and resources If your sick stay home|0 no|0 This kinda just looks like Costco to me|1 Umm Why should they get infected How about they find patients that already have the virus get their medical history and tell them hey we have developed a vaccine we believe it has a 90 chance to cure you we need your help to test it heres 35k usd|1 How would they found out Didnt you know comrade that the virus was started by those evil uyghurs in the west It was those subversive Americans The Communists Party was there every step of the way trying to limit the damage and improve the situation Do you disagree Maybe youd like to talk to our friends in room 101 on the subject|0 Oh that virus you must have talking about flu Dont worry its only going to infect 70 percent of Germanys population But Im not German so its fine|1 So does being positively tested for coronavirus means you can skip work while still getting your income|1 Thank you for the clarification on how DNA checking works|1 Ah ok So basically he was a child soldier|1 I would love to know more about Znquercetinegcg connection aswell|1 Florida Man aint scared|1 Thats how I felt when NC declared a state of emergency yesterday Suddenly felt so much better about things And my bosses also agreed to my suggestion that we limit inperson appointments for the time being after that|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or postsPlease avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|0 Im too angry to make complete thoughts I guess My dad is over 65 been in contact with numerous people traveling back and forth from China and lives in a hot spot Santa Clara Yet he cant get tested despite developing worsening symptoms Ridiculous|0 My wife is enjoying the same experience|1 I would like to remind you that it is flu season right now so people showing flu symptoms rush to hospitals demanding themselves be tested for corona while possibly getting infected with Corona from that one sick dude in the hospital lobby|0 If we had more people learning hardware and software development this sort of thing would be much commonplace I was one of 10 devotedextracurricular electronics students out of my class of 500 at one the best tech high schools in my state Ive been told that its been steadily going downhill since i attended 8 or so years ago We almost didnt have the electronics program for a few years because lack of interest It was just a handful of us in independent study hours during our senior years Ive heard pretty grim things about the programs recently rhacking ropensource rprogramming relectronics r3Dprinting Herehttpshackadaycomblog is a decent development blog|1 So all the doctors nurses are sick Got it|0 They dont know yet Some viruses in this family cause terrible permanent lung damage while others generally cause very little if any|0 I have 5 kids I do not go nuts but I do have a few months of food stocked up Nothing too nuts I have done this by teaching my self how to can food vacuum bag etc We also stock up on other supplies I have done this for years This helps more than you know You can not make it to the food store because you have to work or the truck brakes down No probAlso it is a good feeling if a coworker or friend is in need and you just go down stairs and make them a care package D|1 Around 39 of households have a gun in the US Hey genius what retarded country are you from Its 47 of Americans that own guns Take your trash antigun hate to a different thread you are not welcome here with your rubbish knowledge on the subject|0 you should be fine remember someone get worse after getting better so treat yourself with kindess|1 Thats a good way to increase the of people who are killed or injured for life|0 I tolerate it a lot less than I do potatoes but I am thinking of going on it anyway Canned chicken is not really sold here Canned fish has a lot of sodium which I dont tolerate at all I dont even tolerate fresh fish The antifever meds and antibiotics for the flu complications I had developed messed me up royallyWhat do full sanitary measures mean in this case Wash hands sanitize hands sanitize doorhandles worksurfaces etc How adviseable is it to wash your face after you go out Does it help or does the risk of water running into your nasal cavitymoutheyes make it more dangerous than doing nothing|0 That makes more sense i guess depending on the situation you could argue that its a type of quarantine but I think it would be a stretch I would rather have them waive the wait period for everybody because there is a lot of people that is left behind that its not being laid off by sickness but it is in an indirect way|0 Ah ok cool so we ARE in the end times I guess those Pentecostals will be happy including our Australian PM|1 Reads like the cringe from rLateStageCapitalism|1 And they were taking droplet infection precautions at the hospital until covid was confirmed They were intubated under droplet infection precautions while critically ill with a virus that is aerosol spread It will be a miracle if some of the health care workers in that room arent infected|1 A failure of imagination maybe I mean read a couple of scholarly articles on the 1918 influenza pandemic and the imagination fills in the blanks real quick I know a group of people who maintain the its just the flu bro attitude and were laughing about the killer airfare deals to Italy yesterday I dont even bother trying to educate them Im just floored that not a single one has seemed willing to read anything serious on the subject Sure theyve all read a Facebook meme written by one doctor supporting the its just bad flu and what are we teaching our children view but nothing approaching hard science Im surrounded by these nave fools and can only chalk it up to willful ignorance Maybe that falls in the same bucket as normalcy bias they dont want to acknowledge whats coming especially the likely extreme economic impact to many of them so they bury their heads in the sand and laugh it off as nothing to worry about|0 Good point Im from the UK and most people I know are like WTF on the gov response herd immunity TV presenters are massively challenging the gov I have no faith in them whatsoever if anything happens to anyone in my family Ill hold the gov responsible for their diabolical lack of action Their callousness is horrible its really affecting my mental health|0 Its scary|0 God bless Germany|1 How does this work for places like restaurants Do they essentially have a new 100 person capacity|1 I just bash anyone that has still failed to implement a travel ban|0 Comedy and tragedy are basically the same thing|0 Hopefully if someone tests positive without symptoms but later shows symptoms theyll put them in a different category That way we can know if its a new positive or an old one|1 Lots of viral respiratory infections dont present with viremia so its possible that you can be infected but have no virions in the blood|0 I was planning on going there for my Spring Break next week I guess I should cancel|0 Well now Im extremely self conscious|1 Read the whole thing and check the tables not the overall averageHere it is from NPR too but I linked the source instead Similarly a study released by Chinas Center for Disease Control last month found that if you factor out all the data from Hubei province where Wuhan is located the fatality rate in the rest of China drops to 04httpswwwnprorgsectionsgoatsandsoda20200303809904660whythedeathratefromcoronavirusisplunginginchina|0 Seems theres a lot of that dude out there Give that dude a compliment or something he probably needs it after this|1 But not all government officials were as concerned Oklahomas Republican Gov Kevin Stitt tweeted a picture of himself and his children at a crowded metro restaurant Saturday nightRepublican Rep Devin Nunes had a similar message on Fox News Sunday encouraging people to go to local restaurants and pubs despite the warnings of health officials|1 This Twitter reply by grayspeeks was perfect Nothing more need be said if you were wearing the PPE then you cannot have contracted the virus because RBMK reactors cannot explode the RBMK reactor cannot have exploded|1 The 34 average mortality stat may seem low to some but I must admit I wouldnt be too happy doing a bungee jump if I knew there was a 1 in 30 chance the cord wasnt connectedAnd even if its a 1 in 100 chance Im not going to be jumping with too much abandon|0 So far we are lucky covid19 is not that contagious over things like packages otherwise we would be really fucked|1 Yes what I said does not include sample collection That is something the doctors have to do But that is not the bottleneck right now that is preventing tests from being run in the US|1 As someone who goes to school in France this is great news|1 Why do you want to do any intercity travel nowThe reason theres no tourists is because the govt has said stay home as much as possible So if thats the goal of the government why are you wanting to travel the country|0 I dont see how a mask would not prevent you from being infected but at the same time prevent you from infecting others Masks are not one way If they prevent you from infecting others then they would prevent you from inhaling from someone who is infected|0 Those are important as well Ive been saying for 6 weeks that it was unwise to assume that the transmissibility and severity would be the same in various regionsFor example other than metal shows and airplanes I literally never touch anyone that is not my girlfriend and my personal bubble is like 6 feet wide As far as I can tell thats standard for North America and its definitely not in other places|1 Tell them youve come down with a pesky cough you cant shake ever since your neighbors came back from their trip to Bali but youre sure its nothing Ask them to bring some cough medicine for you when you show up because you cant find any at the shops Im guessing your siblings might have a quick change of heart and will all of a sudden tell you its ok if you dont feel up to it|1 Napkin math here because I am headed to bed but there are probably 180000 actual cases outside of China right now and only a small portion have been found by testing In 8 days that would be about 445000 cases growth of 147 but how many of those we find depends entirely on how much our governments test So I wont make any prediction on the number of reported case then other than to say that our found cases will exceed the growth rate of 147 for those 8 days a minimum of 84K found by the end of the day on March 17th|1 True the EU followed the WHOs lead But WHO are a political organization as much as a medical one and China has managed to get several members very highly placed inside the organizational structure over the past decade a tactic theyve been using everywhere|1 Most Americans understand that the Trump administration has already made major mistakes Theres an election in a little over 7 months Trumps bargaining position is weak because he cannot afford to be seen as having made more significant mistakes in response to the pandemic Hell probably accept it in some form|0 I have friends bragging about it Taking the opportunity to post things like Nothing will keep me from CrossFit With some dumbass selfie |1 Dude GO watch High School Musical and listen to the song Were all in this together very clearly|1 Accuse your enemies of that which you are guilty|0 Its a meme from rwallstreetbets that sub assumes everyone in there doesnt know what theyre doing and I like the fact nobody takes themselves seriously stockswise|1 This is actually quite an odd result since droplets are largest closest to the mouthnose I wonder if their mechanical head setup is a good simulation of real people coughing|1 To be fair it starts with preparation advice before a pandemic To be real WHO will probably start using the p word this week If not everyone else will be anyway|1 The problem is that I cant prove a negative The fact that hospitals have not run out of masks is not a news story So where would I get the sourceI suppose if you like I could email a random US hospital and ask them Perhaps they would answer me But that would only be one hospital or one region Would that be enough proof for youYour source says that they are not prepared I dont doubt that What I doubt is that theyve already ran out by now|0 Just about everyone I encountered some didnt believe a word I said but I did my partJust yesterday I asked my neighbor if they were ready his response was No They are blowing this up out of proportion I didnt even bother Left immediately to get some Guinness I cannot believe there are some people still thinking this too much or a conspiracy theory etc etc I am by no means someone who exaggerates So the people who knows me well believed me and got ready immediately I am so happy they did|1 Some people myself included have dry hands Like bone dry I have to use a wetting agent to separate papersmoney Not all hands are created equal|1 This does not bode well for us|0 Lol Yesbut I couldnt afford it Thats the issue And if you cant afford itit goes away|1 In 2017 and 2018 the philanthropist billionaire Bill Gates met repeatedly with Bolton and his predecessor HR McMaster warning that ongoing cuts to the global health disease infrastructure would render the United States vulnerable to as he put it the significant probability of a large and lethal modernday pandemic occurring in our lifetimesTrump Has Sabotaged Americas Coronavirus Responsehttpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponsefbclidIwAR2feTc1K5LubvnECMm41bJyQU0mH4RPW6XN9lm6kyag7ffBr422fku0|0 Didnt they stop reporting asymptomatic cases as well|1 Somehow Africa will get the worst of this virus|0 Im sure were about to find out soon|1 Thats a hard yes|1 Name of your city head of public health would be helpful|1 Yes but it spreads so easily that breathing is enough |1 Korea has managed to tread water so far The entire US will end up like Wuhan at this rate|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 HIV isnt nearly as tranmissable as this thoughalthough its serious you cant just contract it while on the bus You can bet if HIV was transmissible through the air that there would be a complete crisis|0 I switched to nicotine gum about 5 months ago after I started feeling a bit winded Good choice quitting If you still get cravings you can try nicotine gum but be careful I replaced one habit with another Im constantly chewing now Bettee than vaping I guess|1 I know I know Im just being a bit dramatic as a PhD student thats familiar with the publishing process and despises it|0 Knowing a vaccine works takes a long time Imperfect vaccines can kill or maim|0 The germaphobe that raw dogged a porn star while his wife was pregnant I hope Stormy didnt catch anything from him|1 In Milan as well and my coworking place WeWork just notified me that I cant go there tomorrow and on Tuesday until the situation is clearVery weird and creepy atmosphere all around|1 At the laundromat yesterday I sanitized the washers dryers and folding tables I used The people looked at me a little funny Later one of the ladies watching went to her car got some sanitizer wipes and started doing the same thing|1 Thank you for that citation I had not seen it beforeI had previously gone off data from academic publications regarding SARS which had suggested a 4 day maximum living time on surfacesAs you say the 9 days is on the long sidemaxima but interesting to see this|1 Agreed|1 Or retired people Some of them are also old no|0 Thank you The price of freedom is eternal vigilance in this case literally |1 No not cash for clunkers lolI am unaware of a 300 stimulus during the Obama administration I only have recollection of one from the Bush administration in 2008|0 Really really really well said my friend Couldnt have said it better|1 Post Malone had a concert yesterday in Denver too Insane|0 Scene not safe No BSIWill stage|0 What ER and did you get the names of the personnel who refused to test you|0 Might partly be to Trump stupidly claiming that all cargo trade from Europe will be halted The White House is walking that back now But yeah futures will be screwed no matter what|0 Its not just drugs A lot of shit is Made in China|0 Pangolin trade has been banned for long time Its enforcement of the law thats a problem not only in China but throughout Southeast Asia and Africa where the animal is harvested You can see news items like this onehttpsqzcom1142567pangolintraffickingchinaseizedrecordhauloftheworldsmosttraffickedmammalhttpsqzcom1142567pangolintraffickingchinaseizedrecordhauloftheworldsmosttraffickedmammalThat show they do try to stop the trade but it hasnt been sufficient to wipe it out|0 This is why I fear it spreading in the US People either dont or cant save here and considering some live paycheck to paycheck theyre going to be evicted while under quarantine then kicked out once its over in unless something is enacted|0 lol CDC and Homeland security not even present|1 Ive seen a lot of chatter in the past week or so in my online groups and real life people getting to gather plans for this type of scenario A few families in the same boat kids too young to stay home alone but parents work or dont have a job than can be done remotely theyre banding together so if theres school closings everyone is watching each others kids so each adult only has to miss like one day a week or soHopefully we wont need to do that but its clear that some individuals are preparing for this as many local school districts have been given directives to prepare for onlineremote school plans|1 Shed be a congresswoman or a local politician in an ideal democratic system fighting for your rights But in this situation she is just an aunty shouting on SNS afraid to be censored or worse be educated My heart goes to you all my fellow huaren friends never forget that the people and the government are not the same thing The goverment is a public service run by public servants ideally chosen by everyone I cant I dont understand|1 Some of us do realize it Ive been donating to Bernie I want medicare for all My daughter just texted me that she may be marrying her boyfriend because he has good state insurance My other daughter recently married HER boyfriend because she has good state insurance and wanted to get him on it|1 Does this actually surprise anybody|1 Idk about you man but as a 25 yo id rather not suffer from pneumonia for two weeks that may or may not leave me permanent damage to put the herd immunity theory to test|0 Not really Strike was the one who brought up wearing masks|1 I wonder how much there is crossbrigadiering between rchinaflu and rcoronavirus It looks like mods here are becoming overwhelmed by trollsI give more benefit of the doubt for China than average redditor Hubei numbers are crap first they lied then just lost the ability to keep with the situation but data from rest of China probably as good as from any countryCCP does lie and does hunt down whistleblowers but its not their health care system that does it its their party apparatus|1 A test isnt a vaccine You can take a test and then get infected the next dayRelax take a walk Know that aside from isolation there isnt much you can do|0 So Im not saying Im 100 correct but there is a compelling reason to leave schools open especially in big cities Children generally arent effected by the virus nearly as oftenseriously as adults so there is not a high risk to the school age population At the same time something like 30 of all healthcare workers especially in NYC have children in k12 schools If schools were to be canceled a lot of those healthcare workers which are in a pretty big need right now would have to stay at home For closing schools there isnt necessarily a right or wrong answer A lot of pros and cons to be weighedEdit to everyone downvoting me Ill provide a sourcehttpsyoutubeE3URhJx0NSw I cant time stamp it because Im on mobile but the relevant part starts at 9m35s The entire interview is interesting and provides some good info|1 might deserve to die tbh|0 Shes only in her early 40s But she smokes quite abit which Im pretty sure increases chance of death so if I dont wish to take that chance if I can avoid it lol but Thanks for the info I really need to stop looking at the news on YouTube that shit just raises my anxiety to its peak|0 Agreed Nothing against professional dicksuckers but it really shouldnt be an inclusion criteria Just a bad trend throughout society over the past several decades generations maybe centuries I guess|0 enemies are invisible|0 Is there any evidence of this effect in individuals being treated with oral doses of AspirinHow does this fit with the issues seen with Ibuprofen and if this research holds could this be a cheap way of slowing down viral replication to enable individuals immune activity to clear the virus|1 True that I was really hoping that Peoples Leader and a paraphrase of the ebay message would make it obvious enough but the tankies and wumao are very hard to parody|1 lol fuck that As if regular proctors arent creepy enough|0 nor do command economies Thats just it though China doesnt have a command economy I mean it is tightly controlled by the Communists but counterintuitively it is a very much capitalistic market economy If it wasnt China wouldnt be so important to the world economy at large International corporations do business with them precisely because of thisThats what concerns me about China the most They learned from the flaws of all the 20thcentury command economies and now they have this Mussolinistyle bizarro capitalismIn fact the most concerning part of the Chinese economy is something a lot of people are unaware of Something that if they get it running in time could allow them to ward off collapse even due to demographics|0 Whoever is playing is real shit at this game TOTAL ORGAN FAILURE is not meant to be activated until at least a billion people have it|0 My bet is this could happen within the next weekI hope when this is all done the American people will be grateful for the people who stood up for us instead of yelling Gov Cuomo is a criminal|1 No nurses are healthy I havnt seen any covid patients yet Just normal sick people|0 Was listening to doctor radio and they were parroting the dont wear N95 masks they said that air comes in from the sides and medical professionals use face shields and gowns How is a face shield and a gown going to prevent air coming in from the sides When all they had to say was when worn improperly air leaks in|0 well come on fed just injected 15t into wallstreet but US is only spending 9b on coronavirus were already doing it|1 Link please|1 Your country is an embarrassment Your leader is a mentally handicapped mentally declining man with zero political experience and a quarter of your country applauds that and half your country doesnt care enough to even vote against it|0 I think talking about weeks is more to ease people into the idea of shutting everything down Look how much panic there has been over talk of a two week shutdown Meanwhile the CDC recommendation for social distancing is 8 weeks and schools will surely be closed for the remainder of the school year But if you start saying that from the get go you will have riots and fighting and scared people REALLY panic buying I think you are correct and that we will be dealing with this virus for months at least until we have a decent vaccine|0 Hey my dude when I get an anxiety attack instead of trying to get rid of it I accept it as it is and ride it out The more you push it the more it will try to get you Anxiety is like a spoiled child in my experience if you try to tell it what to do it will do the exact opposite so just ride the wave and know it will end no matter what When you feel an attack is coming just say hello i can feel you coming and i accept you or something along those lines If you truly accept and acknowledge them youll have less and less anxiety everytimeThis too shall pass |1 Yeah I am not intending to be snarky just emphasizing that theres a line item that was negotiated by the employee reps in this industry on behalf of the rank and file The salaries and contracts are massive but the fundamental agreements remain the same|1 Well our health agencies and media just got finished with their vape epidemic they mislead about the cause of basically the entire time|1 And smart|1 True Im planning to not leave the house for a month or more if necessary I have no idea how bad its going to get but Im bracing for a Wuhantype pandemic in major cities which will radiate out and dissipate as it hits the countryside|0 Lead paint chips The soviets definitely used some asbestos in their older filters but why the hell would they throw in lead paint chips|0 In our country Slovenia there is already a shortage of basic protective gear its a small country of only 2milion people so it seems we are somewhat overlooked by all the benefactors However the hospitals are reporting that the prices of the protective gear are spiking manyfold True the outbreak is still relatively low around 100 but its expected to get worse we are on a 15 growth factor so they are preparing and and finding out we are fucked There is a total of 168 ventilators for severe pneumonia cases available in TOTAL the whole country So yeah situation is looking somewhat grim although one thing I must say that at least they were quick to close borders and schools this week|0 Hopefully its not like that Hopefully|1 Definitely a live science experiment The immunoglobulins we give now are all purified from serum for the exact immunoglobulin of interest Without a link to a primary paper Im not sure if they actually isolated the immunoglobulin or if they straight up just injected spun down serum into patients|1 There are plenty of stupid people in the world no reason to limit it just to America|0 You do realize that they track that stuff You have to give them a name of a person whos positive in order to get a test They have to call the health department to get the test green lighted Every single case is tracked|1 You are absolutely right I have canceled all of my appointments I stocked up on the medicine I need to stay well enough and I am hunkering downThank you for responding |1 Oh thanx it is a great advice to use paper to touch it Strange how such simple solutions exist and that reddit exists and we may help out each other You are right Somehow I doubt germs exist in the clean flush water we use in toilets but of course some may exist indeed|1 but Israel doesnt let immigrants just walk across the border The US border is open in Israel its closed with a wall a big beautiful wall and still hospitals in Israel are in poor condition it looks like a version of the soviet union Three of my grandparents went for treatment in an Israeli hospital and non came back alive Socialist states suck They steal money from working people and give it as they please It creates in Israel an entire group which is under heavy stress of taxes and on the other hand another group of poor people who have Zero motivation to escape pooverty because the socialist state is subsidizing their poverty|1 This is terrible news for smokers but I was just about to take up smoking marijuana to deal with my anxiety about this issue and I guess I will not do that at all Edibles in this country suck like an entire package at 30 for 10 ng THC|0 The logic is that people are also preparing for being quarantined or staying home for long periods of time and avoiding places like grocery stores not necessarily just for shortages Not that difficult to figure out|1 Heres a translation of his tweet and a little bit of my thoughts on itYou have asked for free Internet from telecommunication ministry and weve ordered all landline ISPs to enable a 100GB package for everyone starting tomorrow till the end of the yearwhich is about 10 days or it could be the other way around and he has just stated the national usage cap and if thats the case the actual package would be 50GB or 25GB depending on how he calculated but probably 50GBI aint complaining its a free data cap and it surely is better than nothing and it could even be doubled by using local media websites such as local movie streaming services and its nice but the majority of the people use mobile data and not landline services they are limited and he is in charge of the national cell company so he should provide the something for mobile users too because of that reason however what he has done makes sense because he wants to encourage people to stay at their home and not outside but then again we come to the problem of not many people having access to landline service|1 Dont you listen to Trump It might be big It might be little We might have to worry We might not Were in great hands|0 Fair enough I will see if I can change it|1 Thanks for this puts it into finer perspective 36 of people who present with COVID19 symptoms die but that percentage is spread over a large age group and around 50 of the population either wont get the disease or be asymptomatic the death rate is 36|0 This is not good|0 my pleasure |1 If you get tested and are positive youll be sent home to selfisolate anyway Theres no real treatment at that stage so youre waiting to see if it gets serious enough to be admitted The outcomes to critical care volumes is probably the same but more resources can be diverted to help|1 Why would it be wrongSupply and demand Its not like theyre going to be able to train up a bunch of kids in a couple of weeks or import trained supplements From where|0 Walking home from work last night in Chicago I saw the bars were slammed People here still dont seem to get the severity of the situation at hand|1 Yeah hilarious until the middle of February when shit will stop being hilarious|1 This sort of triage will happen in our capitalist medical system too Reality my ass|0 Dr Li Wenliang should win the Nobel Peace Prize as wellhe tried to warn the world|1 DCB Dead Cat BounceEdit B not P|0 Based on what weve read so far of this case and others it certainly seems more virulent than influenza but he could be a one off case for his age group Nonetheless its an important development|1 The Australian Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy told the NSC that it was medically inexplicable that the WHO hadnt already declared a global pandemic Its politics in other wordsAbsolute fucking cunts Bring back the gallows|0 Hey I hope its nothing crazyQuestions Did you get the flu shot this season What city are you in Or province if you want to be more anonymous Ty|1 But you can clearly see with your own eyes that they didnt|1 Almost like the women who have resentment for people who view them as lesser beings and refuse to shake their hand It is just transferring the resentment to the people causing the issue if you believe that women should be treated equally to men regardless of creed that is|0 Yes sorry didnt really follow his way of thinkingBut isnt actually he then trying to proclaim his morals as universalArent we on the same pageEthics is considered the reflection about morals|1 Incomparable due to the amount that catch the flu|0 Mike pence said Americans should still go to South Korea and Italy just stay away from known areas of infection Hes either an idiot or an actual monster|0 I had a highly educated guy at work a professor in biology loudly claim its just the flu Dude its not even the same virus familyPeople are morons|0 I am in shock They just filmed the start of the epidemic in Cambodiahttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo6KXhOfqlEhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo6KXhOfqlE|0 I just hope international travel has less limitations by then so I can see my family|1 This is literally not true yet I keep hearing it constantly httpsabcnewsgocomPoliticstrumpcutcdcsbudgetdemocratsclaimanalysisstoryid69233170|0 its most of hubei province maybe all Outside of that certain residential areas might be on lock down some intercity travel is restricted but beijing itself is not in quarantine new arrivals from some places may require a 14 day quarantine on landing|0 Good question I havent heard since I got back|1 Germany is affected just a bit delayed And after seeing the communal and political response I assume we will be where Italy is right now in one or two weeks|0 good question Many people specially Chinese people blamed Chinese gov reacted slowly because they suspected gov wanted to hind it I cannot answer this question But I am sure that NO ONE could expect the viruss influence in the beginning and NO ONE will believe it when they really see and sense the capacity of spreading and infecting peoples health I dont want to blame the Chinese gov this time because I think they did their best on this issue when they realized the terrible influence of this virus according to the experience from SARS quarantine and keep isolation is the best and effective way to prevent spreadingI think gov had the same consideration like you said the cost of quarantine so that they didnt do it the first time I dont think Chinese gov made a mistake but they just dont know But my point is do not repeat the same thing again and again when the results are predicted for other country China already paid a huge cost For US and other country try to prevent and precaution earlier Thats good for the US gov and also people living in US The quarantines cost now may be 5 but if quarantine is late for one or two week the cost may be 50 or 500 Dont challenge this virus never We already had Wuhan and SK and Italy I dont want to see next city suffering from this I dont know where the news you got the information that Chinese people said gov overacted actually in China peoples discussion are on wechat app or online many young Chinese in the beginning of Jan started to tell their parents to pay attention to the virus Many voice are about the virus and hope the gov do more things I heard from some of my US friend that it is the same thing happening here USI would like to share all I know happened in China|1 I wasnt sure if PuPu was local or not We have Hema as wellOnly place to consistently sell decent avocados in my city|0 55 year old male with under lying health issues passed in Bristol BRI yesterday|0 My schools doing a meeting today to decide if to cancel or not|0 I would think still worth it because the severity of each location can be very different and if we get everyone to basically freeze for maybe 68 weeks in the biggest outbreak areas and between all major locations then I would think with social distancing measures we can at least slow andor reduce the infection rate The infection rate rate and total cumulative infection rate are the two variable to minimize the mortality rate is whatever it is|1 And I will root for you beating his ass if that day ever comes I hope it doesnt but this whole community will understand why you did it and support youMy brother is talking about quitting his job because he lives with my parents If our dad gets it he aint got an effing prayer|1 What are you looking for people to do Fordward thinking 20x death rate than season flu more contagius around 10 get really sick You do your little mental simulation with this numbers or just look at Italy 1 week and the ICU are already full And until this week they were testing like crazy and putting people in isolation to diminish the contagion on friday they give up and are now just taking the brunt of the wave|0 Keep an eye on ICU shortages Italy is currently experiencing the nightmare of not enough ventilators|0 Shit is crazy Im so underprepared I hope it all blows over some how|0 All that sacrifice from the people of China for nothingIf nothing else the Chinese have bought themselves enough time to conduct clinical trials and depressed the peak incidence rate|0 We keep from getting the flu by getting the vaccine|0 Just slowly befriend Elon Musk convince him you are the best candidate to test a new rocket carrying a forest seed payload being brought to a newly created satelite forest colony orbiting earth and then enjoy your alone time with some hyper impressive views Easy breazy|1 except nationalism is cancer right reddit|0 Gotta look sharp to tap that tcell ass|0 I may have mentioned this earlier but the WHO has a great web page where they tackle misinformation and myths related to COVID19 They are doing a great job at this Link is belowhttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustershttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicmythbustersIsaac Bogoch MD|1 Whew we are safe here in WA then|1 more than 70000 days to get 100 herd immunity but you might lose your beloved one before their timeDividing an even 70000 days by 365 I arrive at 192 years O In the year Twenty Two Twellllllllllve |1 When the hospitals are way over capacity whether or not you have insurance will be of no consequence This will depend entirely on how much you are able to pay|0 I hear yousitting around watching TV eating and drinking for two weeks sounds goodbut haha Think everyone is starting to go out of their mind Thats awesome that your quarantines have been lifted though Crazy times we are living inAgreed Agreed Its rather bizarre to see China this way|1 I know someone paying 260 a month for Healthcare Its the cheapest plan on the market You have to pay 6k usd before the insurance covers your medical bill|0 Well America this is it I guess rightI could have it wrong but it goesif you can make it there youll make it Anywhere|0 Japan and China are testing thousands per day the CDC should have had their eyes on that goal for a month now Theres no good reason they couldnt have ramped up the that level by now|1 Shoutout to those in the infected countries Im living in Nigeria and trust me we feel the pain now yall Looking forward to conquer this corona like we conquered Ebola Take care and be safe Just remember whatever happens it is for a reason We all have our fingers crossed|1 Thats the spirit I had when whistling casually while pushing a cart loaded with cans and pasta through a store the other day Everyone was looking at my cart with a puzzled look on their faces|1 Its interesting that the locals already spread this rumor oh I guess not even the God King glorious leader dear chairman is safe from wishful thinking and gossip|1 We share 99 dna with chimps Still kinda different while being similar I take your point But there still are clear differences especially with the spread of covid19|1 The biggest concern with SARSCov2 is that high numbers of severe cases quantity rather than quality of disease will result in not enough of this medical help to go round This is probably the biggest real concern in the current situation Its why one of Chinas first actions was to build the massive temporary hospitals why the USs FEMA is sending out letters requisitioning hotel bedsHas this been made public yet Its definitely not the message were hearing from the administration|1 Is this a serious question|0 Multiple nations have already offered to send teams China refused because theyre trying to cover up the scale like always|1 Exactly they are probably complicit and part of controlling the narrative being given For national security of course|1 Just bloody upload the video directly here mate|0 Here is the fact in China now If you go out of your house you cant avoid a temperature test You go out of your community you get a temperature test you go to a supermarket for shopping you got a test you go to work you get a test which means as long as you have a feveryou will be detected and will be delivered to hospital for testing Usually if a man get infection the symptoms will show around 5 days or 14 days in extremely cases If there have not been any new cases in a city or provenance in 14 days it is pretty much sure that there is not virus in the society And many cities and provinces in China have no new cases for two weeks Also everyone in China is wearing a mask and if there is a person carrying the virus he hardly infect any other people|1 Yeah I think I will Thank you|1 My mom lives with me because she has MS and cant work If she were to get this it would be bad The flu went around my work for a few weeks and everyday I would ask how she felt The one guy at work that got the flu and gave it to everyone in my vicinity thought it was funny My work has been awesome with coronavirus we have to report any travel and if we have symptoms we have to take a mandatory 14 days off|0 I live near the Walmart home office and they are not asking people to work from home sadly My roommate works in the call center I have a late stage cancer and I signed a note saying hes my primary caregiver he used to work as as CNA so he could play the personal family emergency card to get cleared to WFH That REALLY upsets me because as I actually do get worse when and if chemo stops working well wed been saving that allowed month of WFH time for then So now when I do get bad enough to need him here to help he may not be able to|0 Also this is a wonderful tool for anxietyhttpsimgurcomp7CymXv|1 India has a massive population and is last on that chart Scary to think about if it hits them hard|0 no words|0 The criticism is how that compares to what theyre paying out in coupons on these bonds I believe I saw somewhere that the coupon payments so far are greater than the fund payoutsIe it wouldve literally been cheaper to just have what what they ended up paying out to investors just go straight into a fund|1 The light from the fire that burning in this hell|0 I agree its stupid but I just thought it was a bit weird to act like what they meant was a mystery when its very clear what hes saying|1 Celebs saying do something make me more likely to do the opposite Anyone want to go to a bar|1 Smart man wish we had one here in the US|1 Apparently not and thats bad but brining people back is not a bad thing in and of itself|1 I live in downtown Detroit Half of what we have is hospitals I am about to be surrounded by this shit for weeksPeople I know are still going out still living their lives with a tiny bottle of hand sanitise thinking thats them doing their partShits about to get real crazy|0 Yes I think there will be a lockdown for most things|1 High five Im going to what must be the same conference Do you mean you cancelled and rebooked at the lower price or that you just arent going to attend at all I am pretty worried about attending but feel like I cant bail out because Im scheduled to give presentations My coworkers think the whole thing will get canceled but I dont think it will unless the county health department orders them to shut it down its too huge of an event and will lose too much money|1 Any small companies that bottles their own products are in trouble too There were issues last fall when the Panama Canal draft allowance was lowered so less product on the boats Bottles and closures were delayed for weeks Certain bottles were out of stock everywhere with 8 week lead timesThere hasnt been any sign of shortages so far but theres no WAY they arent coming Last fall was just a hiccup but I had 6 vendors all out at the same time and then all back in stock at the same time If you have the budget buy a couple months worth of packaging IMHO If its not here already it wont be coming for a while Im not fear mongering Im honestly concerned about our next production runs We were going to order a large run of labels from China and I switched it to a US printer Shipping is stupid enough normally I cant imagine the delays under quarantine|1 I would point out how its been proven the virus was spreading in Washington for six weeks before it reached a vulnerable population a nursing home which is what it took for anyone to test since before you could only test someone if they have been to China Its been proven that it can be spread when the person has no symptoms Even if you have not flown millions of people do every day and they go to work the store etc etc We have 600 cases and only 2000 people have been tested Its been everywhere for weeks to deny that and underplay how serious it can be for individuals and hospitals is being willfully ignorant People should wash their hands properly often and stay home if they are sick regardless If you dont youre an asshole|0 A woman eats two pounds of ground leeks This is what happened to her community 27 people present to the emergency room |0 But its so great that people have to depend on the generosity of a few of our rich overlords who can decide to help or not help at any given moment instead of having actual policies in place to ensure people can depend on help during crises instead of just hoping for it|1 The article says she says she never mentioned coronavirus only that she licked her fingers The claim that she said she had coronavirus came from the TSA agent All of a sudden we believe the TSA is a bastion of honesty and virtue|1 Thank you for this|1 Just be cautious and observant thats all we can dooh and start making lunch lol|1 If the hospitals are overrun people will die because of the coronavirus without even getting it personally|0 Im not diminishing what a big deal this is but personally reading about history has relieved a lot of my anxiety about this It has been SO much worse so many times that we hardly even read about in school anymore In the 1800s Smallpox killed about 400000 people a year in Europe alone at a time when the total population was far far lower than it is now Tuberculosis caused 25 of all deaths in Europe at the same time If anything the massive impact of a disease like COVID is a testament to how far weve come Even if this goes completely worst case scenario it wont be as bad as what our ancestors dealt with as a matter of course without any hope of effective treatment or a vaccine Society will go on|0 Awesome How plausible is the child infection path listed What is a better model based on what is actually known|1 That doesnt help It just changes who gets the product to a lottery and to those with enough time to stand in line over and over again Increasing the price encourages to ramp up production and reduces hoarding so more people who need it can get it|1 Thank you so much Ive spent my entire shift today in a panic so this was reassuring to read |1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake Please read our recent announcement regarding rCoronavirus and rChinaFlu httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf4iu10announcementrcoronavirusandrchinaflu|0 For more information about n95 respirator and general preparedness you can head out to our Wiki pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFluwikiindexpreparednessIf you are unable to find what you need in our Wiki resubmit your question in the Daily General PosthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentseuqgqedailygeneralpost2jan272020questionsimagesI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19support if you have any questions or concerns|1 Pre 2016 This is a major scandal with huge implicationsPost 2016 Fake news who cares nothing to see here whats on TV later|0 And will continue to bring their economy to a standstill until a vaccine is developed 115 years away or the virus dies out which is unlikely anyway The risk of another endemic in China is too great to open your country back up to the rest of the world when it has now become pandemic|1 You make up conspiracy theories from your nightmares A guy asks for evidence and you call him uneducated Well at least you are consistent Stop lying to yourself It is not healthy|0 The waters are muddy no fish to see No accurate stats in US or anywhere|0 Yes and people on this sub continuing to spread panic is not helping any of us Soon it will not be the virus you should be afraid of it will be your crazed panicked desperate neighbor Everyone just needs to calm down and prepare just like they would for any disaster wash your damn hands people dont pick your nose and keep you fingers out of your mouths You will be fine|0 TBF thats the same penalty you get for chewing gum on the subway very likelyWanna live short in Singapore Smoke a joint on the MRT while writing LKW Can Suck My Balls on the wall|0 Honestly I feel better now I know that sounds awful Its a great relief now that my family and friends have been snapped into the same reality Ive been in for the last three weeksOf course I never wanted anyone to get sick or die Thats why I was warning them Its stressful to be ignored|0 Well know what happened in fifteen years or so if the 80s taught us anything|1 I wish people would say shit like this any time ANYONE speaks outside of their field The internet would be a lot fucking quieter|1 It is clearly not in the title saying this has been placed at my ems workshop Btw same goes for holland I visited my grandpa and also saw em Btw he had flu like symptons but it was just a wound infection Thank fucking god|1 You need to look at what is being banned over there I think you can find it stickied here Its pretty insane to look at dailysomething very strange is going on and by looking at what is banned you start to see what they dont want you to know Everybody says ccp scumbags but as far as I can tell most of the worlds governments seem to be acting very strangely around this issue Anybody wonder why the stock market is acting like China isnt happening|0 Its been circulating for over six seven weeks Its certainly not conclusive yet but every day that goes by with zero sign of Flupocalypse in the flu symptom early detection system is encouraging The latest data through Saturday was actually trending slightly downward Though Im sure thatll change with every soccer mom in Snohomish county now certain any sniffle must be the black plague|1 As someone who works with the CDC it was genuinely disappointing to learn how frustrating they are once i finished grad school and landed a job working closely with them The individuals are amazing well educated and very capable Its just the political aspects and bureaucracy that drag the whole operation down I suspect that is the problem in this case They have a rigid definition for prioritizing testing and this nurse does not meet their definition They are like any other government entity and have their fair share of ridiculous bureaucratic bullshit Things move slow and they often have inexplicable and rigid rules They are also exceptionally well at talking like politicians Its the kind of speaking where they talk and talk without saying anything substantive|0 Just know that if he gets it hes in a bad fucking place|0 No dont they might be contaminated|0 Itll likely be cancelled or at least the big parades Still waiting on the Health departments report|0 Sorry not sure I get your meaning The medical staff is refusing to work until the border is closed This means they are refusing to treat ANYONE which is risking the lives of innocent people that need medical attention|0 Its not NOW its been a 7 year downward slide from authoritarian to totalitarian|0 Ha ha BitchMeToo im slightly older than you tho|1 Thats insane|0 I would not joke about such things|0 lol|1 Shes a scapegoat|0 Who wrote this story about me lol|1 China requires all people to wear masks at all time when out in public Thats coming from doctors and nurses who have laid eyeballs on thousands and thousands of patientsIf everyone wears a mask everyone has better protection from everyone If one person wears a mask everyone who comes into contact with that person has better protection from that one person Its a societal safeguard for EVERYONE|1 Seriously how can this be real life|0 Excerpt from the reportTo manage potentially larger surges in respiratory illness that could be caused by a virulent influenza strain the US Federal government maintains in the Strategic National Stockpile SNS a supply of mechanical ventilators that can be distributed to US hospitals in a largescale PHEAndThis assessment showed that the number of additional mechanical ventilators that could be effectively used during the peak of a severe influenza pandemic ranged from approximately 26200 to 56300 This range represents the projected number of additional mechanical ventilators that could be effectively used by the US healthcare system at the lower boundary of contingency and crisis capacity levels As we approach the upper boundary of the range at 56300 ventilators subject matter experts interviewed as part of this project expressed concern that various components of the health care system would become stressed and there is uncertainty that health care services could be effectively deliveredSo what theyre saying in this is that the US government has a stockpile of additional ventilators available for emergency The shortages come down to available hospital beds and staff to support them|0 This I dont exactly have money to run out right now and stock up on supplies Im really hoping we get our tax return soon so we can grab some non perishables and some cases of water Maybe gasoline I wouldnt be overly worried but we do have a two yr old now We have to protect and feed her|1 Could be agitprop but if true she survived the Great Famine multiple purges the Gang of Four and the Cultural Revolution That girls got a will to live Good for her|1 Im not talking about governments but citizens But perhaps I missed your point|0 Probably but idgafold man still died from old age who happened to be popular among some groups Breaking Pro architect dies World shattered Lives destroyed|0 Do your own research Im not combing through countless posts in rCOVID19 and elsewhere to source it for you But since I remember the last one I read herehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC7033698These results clearly show that three out of four of these inserts naturally exist in three bat CoV viruses before 2019nCoV was identified This undoubtedly refutes the possibility that 2019nCoV is generated through obtaining gene fragments from the HIV1 genome Instead it is much more likely that 2019nCoV originated from RaTG13like CoV viruses|1 Im in China the false negative is emphasized here Im not expert on this so cant comment whether there is false positiveso if you have the symptoms here multiple tests will be done if first one comes back negative to confirm that youre ok Similarly discharging someone from hospital requires at least two negative|0 Heshe might said that because we probably have the worst politicians in Europe I am not taking sides saying this I mean every single one they are very corrupt and they fuck the economy harder each 4 years|0 Holy shit This is unprecdent We are approaching Spanish Flu level Wtf|0 It will save somebody|1 Feb 26th CDC official websitehttpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0225cdctelebriefingcovid19html our containment strategies have been largely successful As a result we have very few cases in the United States and no spread in the community|1 Oh that No idea It does seem a bit much from just smoking but Im hardly an medical expert Maybe smoking is just that much more deadly at 70|0 Im in Ontario Doug Ford our premiere has been making lots of cuts to public health since he was elected last year Our health care is run by each province but its universal in that we are covered when travelling to any province in the country But if the province privatized any aspect of care we would lose our federal funding for the entire healthcare system Its a clause in a health act If Ford keeps making cuts he could screw us over|0 This specific virus can be killed by hand sanitizer or alcohol What youre doing is dangerous Anyone who sees these post please disregard and refer to the link Ive provided to the CDC website|0 I was going to go home for spring break OK for school TX is home but I live with my grandparents so Im kind of terrified to I also was going to see my 88 year old greatgrandmother no cases in my city but there are 2 in Tulsa|0 Document everything save emails Id be surprised if there wasnt a shit show of lawsuits eventually from people being required to work through this being exposed and getting sick|1 London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine Imperial College London and Lancaster University in the UK all seem to be being pretty open source with their data and see my comment to one of the other posters about how most academic papers have a link to their source data if you look closely enough Anything in the models at present about reinfection immunity will be pure speculation as we havent had long enough to get any reliable figures but theres no reason to assume survivors wont have at least some immunity as for most diseases they do|0 So You dont have sources Sorry random internet person for not wanting to take the random internet persons word on something like this|1 Except if the US does wellthen people will still deny it as always|0 1 other country worldwideHealth professionals your joking rightTheyve done zero containment and zero delay measures Oh except for hand washingAnd now your cheering that your Glorious Leader Boris has informed you that your going to lose a loved one due to their complete inactivityAll the countrys that are doing well with this were proactive early on and practised social distancing All the struggling nations were complacent and acted to late Which sounds more like the British Goverments response to you|1 I would be curious to see this compared to a graph of positive flu tests The flu stats for Oregon showed an increase in flu like illnesses starting 3 weeks ago but there was also a bump in positive flu tests albiet a small bump|1 Youre right I always forget about that portion|0 I just pulled my kids my son especially is high risk and disabled There is a suspected case up the street from me I wont wait for the school to take the right action and close|0 Good job on getting checked|1 The original post refers to the uptick in the past week The bimodal peaks are interesting but the only other years that showed an uptick for week 10 were 2015 and 2010 and both those were light flu seasons and on the way downIt will be important to look at this figure in a week to see if that recent trend continues|1 Exactly In Victoria Australia its a 20000 fine if you dont follow self isolation|1 In 2018 Trump cut 80 of budget for US Pandemic Response Teamhttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpfirepandemicteam|0 So none of your familyfriendspeople you know got infected following these guidelines If so how many|0 agreed I generally assume everywhere is full of stupid but I choose to go into detail about the stupid I am directly a part of|0 What are your symptoms How do you know for sure that it isnt the seasonal influenza virus instead of the coronavirus|1 In Georgia USA we didnt see any snow stick to the ground Happens at LEAST once every year since I can remember We had sleet one time but by mid day it was warm enough outside to not need a coat We barely had winter The ladybugs never died off|1 This is also how people get infected|0 God bless your family What you described is pretty grave situation|1 Wait Why do you have five pounds of yeast Are you gonna make barrels of liquorI will be baking bread during this pandemic I am trying to be selfsufficient so I can hole up in my house with my cat Qatar and my chickens Masks will not protect you so I believe the best course of action is to go fullon bunker hermit mode|1 Well make it through this outbreak|1 And the government does We are billions in debt to everybody Everything is underfunded health care police rail All dying because the government give money to bankers and airlines You are mad put the money where its actually needed not in the pockets of billionaires Yes people will lose their jobs but its not like theyre gonna be working for the foreseeable future anyway And Im gonna say it fuck em they arent the priority thousands are going to die because of this and our answer is to let them go and keep the BILLIONAIRE airlines afloat|0 Sounds a lot like living in a big city|1 You know as well as I do that missing work for any reason is frowned upon here in the states I know plenty of people who even with sick days wont miss work because the culture of their office means theyll miss on raises bonuses and promotions Its a systemic issue more than an individual one IMO|1 Hey there Also type 1 and we had our 3rd back in October 2019 I home school the other two so we are limiting contact and trying to be super careful with myself and the baby My heart goes with you guys and all the safe germfree vibes|1 Yup just like I predicted In general Americans have stopped being critical thinkers and are really really self centered Sorry if that pisses people here off but truly its not meant to be an attack Just observation I could see this coming a mile off|0 not to mention 3 to 1 nonalcohol to alcohol means it is 25 alcohol tops assuming they got 99 isopropyl alcohol There is also some discussion above that even 1 moisturizers glycerin diminishes the effectiveness of alcohol as well so that vitamin E oil could be hurting the effectiveness even more|1 Dude my country is doing pretty good it seems And I am from Asia|1 Weirdly if you dont screw the cap back on it stays carbonated longer Its dangerous for your carpet but it tastes betterSource childhood pizza parties where the first 15 kids each screwed the lid back on and by the time I got to the front of the line the soda was flat It hadnt even been 10 minutes since the first kid opened itEdit lid not kid|0 As a Taipei resident the moment I got this alert I checked my Google Map timeline immediately to see where I was on 131|1 On their website it just says that in the lobby area students can get a free mask but I doubt its one that will work as the best prevention for coronavirus Im sure theyre just the basic masks though Im also wondering ifwhen it ends up hitting these campuses how itll effect spring break I think WSU and U of I have breaks in a few weeks and how travelling back home will impact the spread|1 Do you think the World Series of Poker should be cancelled It starts at the end of May for six weeks has thousands of visitors from 175 countries the players sit ten to a table and they all handle the same chips and cards Almost every other poker tournament on the calendar has been cancelled but they seem to be waiting to see how COVID19 pans out|0 I dont think Dr Fauci deserves as much praise as people are giving him in this thread Just 6 days ago February 28 he was the lead author of an editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine that took a different tone from the one in his testimony in the video The editorial cautioned about the potential unknown risks about the virus but explored the possibility that the mortality rate is considerably less than 1 He doesnt definitely say this but writes a paragraph to make this point It gives the editorial a tone titling towards the virus not being very serious His testimony in contrast wants to make clear that the virus is a lot more serious than common seasonal illnesses Thats an erratic shift and I wonder what is going on in his mind or whether other people pressured him to downplay risks and his independent voice is only now emerging QuoteIf one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1 This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza which has a case fatality rate of approximately 01 or a pandemic influenza similar to those in 1957 and 1968 rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10 and 36 respectively httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMe2002387httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMe2002387|0 Nice|1 We have banned uenoughhysteria for 48 hours|0 Oh God Im happy to know there are people in the same position|1 Well the graph doesnt show what happens if you include take dramatic steps but I imagine it lowers the curve even furtherThats then just about economic cost vs benefit but this graph is aimed at moving people away from the do absolutely nothing category I would assume|1 Thank you so much for your advice Im hoping things can be worked out|1 Because we have vaccines for the flu|0 With the level of spread it already has theyre clearly expecting it to go bigThats the question I have about doing a lot more testing Whats the point of performing a test if the result of the test doesnt change the course of the case|1 I just hate the term super spreader It makes it sound intentional Could have been a birthday party a conference or a call centre People end up in large social settings and this was always going to happen After China messed up they were never going to contain this thing|1 i know what u mean i was told to my face i was stupid nobody wants to be right about this shit ya know|0 The creepiest part about this is Ive been watching it unfold almost exactly the way you described it From national emergency declaration to closing of schools to closing of pubs bars restaurants and so on Its madness Absolutely madness and insanity|0 Yeah Im sure the rest of the board members will just be bought off and become figure heads|1 Young people are going to get sick and most likely hospitalized The whole thing about it only effects order people is by death He maybe on oxygen but hell most likely recover|0 Yeah thatll prevent people from doing it|1 Thats not an ER o ICU Ita a confined ward for patients with mild symptoms There is not need of a lot of nurses since they still can breath by themselves and they are in stable conditions|1 FedEx driver here Im not one to worry But this is a dangerous job right now and even if there was a shut down Im sure they would still have us out here Stay clean and stay safe my friend|1 Well folks we had the advantage of being vigilant and cautious now is the time to be resourceful and start hunkering down with supplies and equipment if you havent done so already Have contingencies in placeBest of luck to you all|1 Meanwhile you have people making a fortune on ebay amazon selling the stuff at ridiculous prices httpswwwebaycoukitm24xPurellHandSanitiserGelBottlesSprayAlcoholBasedRub60mlTravelSize184088205123httpswwwebaycoukitm24xPurellHandSanitiserGelBottlesSprayAlcoholBasedRub60mlTravelSize184088205123Its normally a quid or less for them little bottles Its honestly criminal that people are allowed to do this|0 What are we going to do impeach him Lol|1 My first job was at walmart 11 an hour was way more than the minimum wage of 830 at the time in my state that most other jobs offered Granted i dont know if it was worth the trouble they didnt respect my timescheduling but at least the pay was nice|1 I was banned for posting the study on oregano oil|0 vitamin D stay hydrated dont do anything other than be sick|0 Yeah I definitely do During my bedtime prayers I always thank God for one more normal day The problems I had a year ago seem trivial Im hoping this wont be as bad as I suspect|1 Ok has a confirmed case according to the news|1 Basically this is a tremendous disease from China and its gonna be huge|1 Haha my boss asked me this two weeks ago and I had to make up an answer I live in nyc and trying to stay indoors plus prepping|1 What rule exactly was broken here|0 Remember the mysterious lung disease killing vaping teenagers few months ago What is the chance that it too was virus caused |0 Oh come on USA and Europe could also have prevented 90 if we acted the way we are now but way earlier At some point I am even hopeful that this virus will teach us a great lesson As with fire all novel viruses are dangerous And we have to act fast and massive to contain them|1 The Jamie and Brienne story was just fuckedThe build up is like climbing all the way to the Hilary Steps of Mt Everest on a clear day and then going you know what fuck it Im going to turn around and go back|1 They are already taking precautions behind the scene My hubby works for a national facility and they have already asked them about their stock of certain items and what they could give up for other facilities in needJust because the CDC isnt talking a whole lot about it doesnt mean they arent preparing They are|1 Id rather not begin a witch hunt to be honest You might be right but you could also be wrong|0 No they dont stop particles as small as the coronavirus and you can catch it through your eyes|0 Why dont they just ban the virus instead|1 No deaths reported for anyone under age of 9Your mother is the one to be most concerned for Wishing you the best It may be a long road|1 The OP was talking about no symptoms If no symptoms then Id watch my kids at home But if they show signs of breathing trouble despite breathing treatments Then for sure Im taking them to the ER|0 Yep Look how quick they were to say Europe is the epicenter of the pandemic a word they wouldnt use until China was seemingly getting it under control fuckthewho|1 If you get masks to protect yourself from being sick make sure to buy the ones with filters The normal surgical masks only protect other people from you when you are infectedThere is indeed nothing to worry about Its just another outbreak that will either be contained in no time or go around the world as a new disease like the flu or the common cold after which it will slowly become less severe To give you some hope Bill Gates has funded one of the best medical universities in Europe the KULeuven in Belgium to test about 15000 molecules that might be able to cure covid19|1 God damn boomer bosses are going to get themselves killed|0 Must be nice Im in Indiana It doesnt seem like there are a ton of cases of flu now but I wasnt hearing of anyone until this past week|0 If youre sick with the cold or flu then wear a damn mask and stop spreading it around|0 Just my thoughts to if not via UK via another country if you ask me all travel should be locked up except whats essential aka necessary this is the worst year to go on vacation you likely end up in quarantine anyway upon arrival on vacation destination so why bother but still people travel|0 This would explain how Trump was apparently exposed so many times without contracting the virus|0 Yeah I guess they changed their mind on that Originally they announced it was part of itMARCH 16 315 PM UPDATE The City of Reno said Monday it is stopping all nonessential business including casinos bars restaurants and gyms|1 Ahahaha least Im not the one shitting myself pal business as usual|1 He is referencing a game in the game if the virus reaches Greenland or Madagascar then it will very likely decimate the human population|1 Not even remotely trying to portray you as spreading misinformation this sounds exactly what the Trump administration would do but do you have a source Ive heard it in at least one other place but I havent read anything about myself|0 Literature prize academic report Believe or not if Trump wins next election he will get a Peace prize|1 And have access to the best healthcare|1 Further proof that people who frequent bars are the same types of people who would go get intoxicated with a bunch of people sharing drinks and talking close in a confined space in the middle of a global pandemic|1 In first world countries people dont go bankrupt for Healthcare lolmaybe only in truly extreme cases|1 Tocilizumab suppresses Interleukin6 and NAcetylCysteine are proven effective for this Steroids cause harm and result in worse outcomes|0 Good advice Thanks|1 Pretty much all of those are true of politicians as well|1 No thanks I can totally freak myself out on my own time|0 LOL Dont feel like the Lone Ranger I didnt either |1 this reminded me that in California since 2019 it is no longer illegal to knowingly infect others with HIV If you have HIV and you are knowingly sleeping with other people and doesnt let them know of your condition in California you are not considered a criminalEditsince 2017httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20171009knowinglyinfectingotherswithhivisnolongerafelonyincaliforniaadvocatessayittargetedsexworkers|0 Thanks for clarifying that|1 I hope your friend and her family make it out the other side of this thing alright While China putting everyone in lock down is a bit draconian its likely the best response since it slows the spread Its so frustrating to see governments in the west including here in America that dont seem to be taking enough steps to stop itI think that in a few months we will be in the same situation as your friend is now but all over the world Its as good a time as any to get prepared Thank you for the update|1 He said there was a negative result then confirmed it was the published suspected case although they will only be reporting on positive results in the future|0 For the very old yes For people under 50 you have less than a 1 chance Will you lose someone you know Probably Someone you care about Maybe Will panicking help No|1 Ok that gives me some reassurance Thank you for letting me know With the news of Redmond firefighters under quarantine I was having a mini panic attack I also just listened to the Washington state briefing and I was shocked to hear their testing capacity is only 200 per day I know they dont want to raise panic but it was shocking to me that their primary focus right now seems to be the nursing home Every single one of newer cases have been H2H which leads me to think its spreading fast on the Eastside Even with extreme measures China is failing to keep this virus contained and I know that by the time there are outbreaks in schools itll be way too late I know as a 21 year old college student Ill probably be fine but Im so incredibly worried for the older people in my family The thought of bringing it home and being responsible for someones death is making me want to cry|0 girl lol And I have a few|1 Yea they are just going to go to worth thinking its nothing and spread it to grandma at the grocery store whos picking up cat food Stupid as fuck|0 F Italian here I really hope everything will end in the best way possible Be strong people take care of yourself|1 Unfortunately this just made the requirement list longer|0 Depends on the liberty period For example Camp Pendleton set overnight liberty at within 100 miles of base 200 for 48 hour liberty normal weekend 300 for a 72 and 400 for a 96 I would imagine this would restrict it to normal overnight liberty range which for most places would be within 100 miles or less of base|1 Even if it did that doesnt mean people can actually afford to take time off work to get care|1 No way China has slowed down No way they only had 3000 dead|0 Sorry for being born in a country that doesnt care about its people|0 Do it NY Stitt pulling the same crap in Oklahoma|0 Tucker is a pretty moderate guy watch his debate with Cenk Uygur to see what I mean|1 I extrapolated from figure 2 of this study httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620301835fulltextAdmitted also same as detected on 7th day of onset and ICU admission on 105th day Death would be around 14th dayAlso the protocol is discharge on 10th day without fever So recovered numbers are delayed|0 Trump is the last person on the planet that I would want to have this power to just quarantine groups of people|1 Yes|1 Trump I assumeHe has shattered norms of behaviors Corrupt as a Banana Republic dictator Has given handouts to the 1 at the cost of the countries tax revenues Has seriously damaged if not outright destroyed Anericas place as a trusted global leader Has normalized racism and white supremacism to an extent not seen since the 60sNeed I go on|0 Sorry then I misunderstood you Agreed Although the Kansas origin is debated as well Some say a mild form of it originated in China until it mutated into a more deadly strain somewhere in the US Not an expert myself so I dont know whether thats true|1 The staythefuckhome movement is aimed towards trying to get people to engage in social distancing as much as possible Meaning that it accepts that many people will be unable to do so for financial reasons Its main goal is to get people to not go out to public places and group events work from home if possible and to practice social distancing and isolation when possible Saying who will pay my bills is missing the messageStaythefuckhomecom|0 Yes we did Thats the human hunting stylehttpsmyoutubecomwatchv826HMLoiEo|1 Its so true And why I believe some areas of health care should be federal|1 Correct Im just a humble mechanical engineer I sat down on the evening of January 26th with the best data i could gather from the internet and modeled shit out in excel to guess what woudl happen in USA I appear to have gotten lucky when i guessed that patient zero slipped through sometime around January 14th Based upon known R0 and other disease characteristics that puts us at around 38k infections in the US currently But viruses are weird Could be 10k Could be 100k Point is if i can do that in a few minutes while chilling with a beer on a Sunday evening the CDC fucking for sure knew and so did every world government I have reached the conclusion that my government must have studied each and every path and decided that the one where we get this thing over with as quickly as possible is the best one and truth is its hard to argue with that Might be the case Pandemics suck|1 the common flu is not benign it killed 10 that it infected in 1918 thats now part of the common cold when a new strain emerges it can be quite deadly but that can taper off rapidly as the virus mutates it tends to become less deadly but more infectious as a disease that kills too many of its hosts may end up being unable to spread|0 httpswwwheraldsuncomaunewsvictoriapmscottmorrisongivesplacesofworship55minsecuritygrantsnewsstory5694676aee49964e21b065146b6007ea too bad OP didnt tell you that money went to mosques synagogues and churches all over the country Instead of spinning it to PM donates money to his own church|0 You dont shut down cities of 11 million for the flu They knew this This was always a lie|0 You missed the whole point The point is there is no country which is better than others The US might be good in higher education but they suck in healthcaresocial inequality and racism to name a few But they do well with innovationOther countries might have much better social nets and education but maybe lack the same strong economy|0 Such a romantic|1 Evidence for homemade facemaskshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799 Pattern for homemade facemasks Shaped around nosehttpswwwcraftpassioncomfacemasksewingpatternPattern for homemade facemasks Wire at nose but no shaping around nose httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvaNjpH5lBZ8wfeatureyoutube Extra cute Japanese facemaskhttpswwwjapantimescojpnews20200225nationaljapanmaskshortagescovid19XmzJ8qj7TIU|1 Dictatorship exists for wars or public crisis like this Effectiveness is its specialty|0 I dont really understand why he didnt either They even gave him the opportunity to self isolate at home Its not like he was being forced to stay in the hospital or anything From what Ive heard now hes self isolating at home with an officer in front of his house|0 Yeah well see how many of those businesses remain|1 Ive been tracking most of the cases in the West like America Germany UK etc Ive also been tracking the evacuees from Wuhan in countries like Australia Russia and other nonAsian country Basically just trying to test my theory I dont have a study on this but basically when you look at all the cases outside of China that were serious they were all from ethnically Chinese patientsThe first case of the virus in Washington came back to the US after visiting family in China The first American death was ethnically Chinese And then you look at the infections of nonAsians Like the 10 germans that caught it from the super spreader They didnt even know something was wrong with them no symptoms They tested positive but then immediately recovered like nothing happened There are interviews with infected Western patients in Japan from that cruise ship They are almost visibly confused by how fine they feel Most likely they wont have any symptoms and just recover quicklyEven the British man who was a super spreader and probably had the virus coursing through his blood system for days He got tested and was held in the hospital but nothing to indicate he had criticalsevere reactions You would think this guy would have some pretty gnarly symptoms if hes so filled with the virus but really nothing to indicate that4 cases from the infected patients in Japan required hospitalization and were critical But 3 of the cases were Japanese and Im going out on a limb that the last case was probably ChineseKoreaAsian There are actually hundreds of Americans on that ship supposedly with many elderly and overweightobeseI just find it really fascinating how this disease has been spreading for so long and no one seems to be coming down with anything I feel like this virus is probably spreading like wildfire in the West but no one knows because it isnt causing any serious problems for nonAsiansI guess well have to wait to see what happens in India Didnt something like 400600 students from Wuhan arrive there without a single case of infection Should the virus be taking off like wildfire there causing problems Their climate isnt that much more different from Singapore right And Singapore seems to have more problems with it than India|1 Just curious is Dirk your favourite Player|1 You can thank the Geneva Protocol for that|1 OP posts overly political article then Trying to avoid being overly political for mod reasons|0 Yes most certainly They need to be doing more to at least appear they are doing something Certainly getting ready for a countrywide effort to rid us of the virus|1 Not sure where you are but the one store that often gets overlooked is Big Lots Cheap and they have the necessities|0 Interesting Can you share anything about the adverse reaction profile|1 You may think that comment is harmless but theres contrary bitches out there who would do the opposite cuz merica|0 sarcasm|0 Well we shut down all traffic international just ot sure why we didnt close driving and Mexico|1 I havent seen a Chinese exotic pet market but Ive seen the wet marketshttpsi1wpcomchinahopelivenetwpcontentuploads201504licundajipanoramajpgssl1 first hand The one I went to didnt have anything exotic but it was a huge fucking mess The smell was unbearable as soon as you got around to the seafoodmeat seller stalls Being street stalls they dont even have running water so I doubt personal hygiene was high on the list of things they worried about These stalls are all being run by independent peasant farmers who either growmakecatch their own haul and then bring it to market with very little if any regard for regulations Since these areas are still underdeveloped and poor a lot of people go to the farmers markets instead of actual super markets like we have in the west because its a lot cheaper Its going to be hugely disruptive for China to regulate these industries I just hope they can actually get it done|1 They have let me home I am in self isolation and they said it looks fine enough to send me home for now I was with about 40 other people on the trip and to my knowledge none of them have been tested and I urge them too We all went to school yesterday too and they havent even closed the school|0 I wasnt the person you originally responded to But since that person wasnt referencing the chart when they stated 34 percent your point is irrelevant The person was clearly making an estimation of overall fatality rate not of fatality rate among symptomatic patients only So the correct comparison would have been to the overall fatality rate|0 Its good enough for Singapore Japan and Taiwan but not good enough for the US This is why nothing ever gets done|1 Im sorry that you went through that Watching everything unfold on the news was shockingI live in the northeast where tornadoes are super rare I cant IMAGINE living in a place where F4 and F5 tornadoes are even a possibility You guys are brave|1 There are more than a dozen now The ones Im interested in are the ones where you see guys in full ppe bringing a body bag down the stairs How many of these are happening and are they included in the death toll There wouldnt be so much speculation if China was actually transparent and didnt have a history of hiding outbreak information Then the reports of people in Wuhan saying its far worse than the official numbers sayIts so hard to tell|0 What about the banks Im a teller and I hope my work closes but they really havent given us any info|1 Hope it goes down further Im ready to stock up on stock again with max leverage and watch that shit buy me a new house Ill finally be able to take care of my parents|1 Offtopic and no source|0 Dead cat bouncing its way downward|0 Had enough of Floridas bullshit non testing and releasing information in the dead of night|0 Like chicken pox D|1 Im not sure why anyone would make either assumption|0 True but Ive been in Vo Eugenio the day before SHTF there|1 If all poor die no one will be rich as well|0 People have a hard time with 1 pathogen and 1 epidemic let alone 40130 Its not something most folks would like to monitor constantly|1 You havent been looking very hard|0 Oh we are well past farce at this point|0 italy is on fire europe is soon to be on fire dont give in or youll be on fire too|0 Thanks for your words it helps to know we have a community that is trying to raise awareness I hope we can keep information on this thread accurate and truthful to better inform people|1 In an ideal world every nation would come together and impose a month long quarantine on every single individual|1 Exactly Thats the only reason theyll admit to not being the best at that too Because we have the real football and thats just soccerIm so disappointed in such a large portion of our society|0 But if she dies its her time anyway Lets worry about the young|0 Thank you|1 I do too but Im still required to be on campus every day even now My company refuses to let me work remote even though theres no need for me to be here I can do everything I can here in the comfort of my own home Guess they want me to get sick|0 Lol hotpot is like a delicacy in these days|1 an HK government health official stated that his team is seeing a mortality rate of 14 among those hospitalised but that doesnt include people who dont require hospitalisation i cant imagine mortality will be very high overall enough to warrant concern but not black plague levelsedit ignore me it was a university dean or something|0 They are already under big pressure in the major epicenters in the south of the country I mean few days ago they tested all staff in one hospital and found 4 were infected already|0 They would need the help of the rest of the world but whats happening in China is almost as if we allowed the Nazis to continue The only difference is that China isnt outright invading countries Instead they are using the belt and road initiative to offer major infrastructure construction but when countries default on repayment they just take over portions of the country The rest of the world has become comfortable with the status quo Its time for China to be kicked off the world stage and for the rest of the world to support the citizens there in overthrowing their authoritarian overlords|1 Thank you Bricktop|1 I have a decent network My mother and partners mother are relatively close by In saying that though as a unit we are not wealthy people My partner and I both work in pretty heavy contact environments Bar work and aged care specifically and if we wanted to keep the kids right away we would be able to have them stay with themThat brings up another double edged sword though not only do we have children and a great grandmother with COPD but we both also work around a lot of elderly people Aged care is obvious but a lot of the patrons I serve at work too are around or at retirement age Im vigorously washing my hands after any contact I make with any surface I touch and also wipe the bar down every 15 minutes as a precautionThat being said we do get by Unfortunately though COVID is going to inevitably put a strain on us all in some way and unfortunately for me thats going to be financially Id rather put my community and family first but I hope it doesnt set me back hard Money sucks|1 If we had hospital admission data would it technically be possible to extrapolate how many are infected by the uptick in hospital admissions for flu like symptoms If 10 of cases require hospitalization like Italy says we could calculate a decent estimate that should let us figure out when the exponential growth will go crazy then we can find the date hospitals beds will be full and the real fuckery starts Im pretty sure someone did the math already and whether we start a week back or even 3 weeks due to exponential spread the beds will be full sometime in May no matter what|1 Its not the Corona Contrary to popular opinion theres no chance that the Covid is everywhere in the US Its a mystery disease but its not that mysterious Once irregular pneumonia starts popping up people will get tested and it will be confirmed Theres a chance of ongoing undetected outbreaks but not hundreds of thousands|1 Ha and Im living in it rn Nil changes on the street I went into a shop the other day and they sprayed my hands with Purell or somethingThats it|1 Doubt China is gonna hold on to the top spot looks like theyve got a hold on it for the minute|1 Ha ha I have worked for women in power I voted for them Ill do again any day when they are good as Zacindra I have replied several times how Zacindra is doing great with her work how we need more leader like her and Ill continue support her good work If someone write man power it will be sexist Also women in power doesnt mean they are good Check Bangladesh last 30 years we have women in powerTrying to fight sexism you are becoming sexist|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Sounds about right The Ontario number will update at 1030am It was 77 before the 7 cases in AB and 7 cases in BC tonight so this would be 95 Expect 200 by the weekend and thenwell buckle up|1 Next week is when we will feel the impact of halted production in China Vessels take 6 weeks to get from China to US next week is the start of the Chinese New Year lull I work in international trade I sell oceanairtruckload services to move goods It is foolish to think supply chains wont be affected Once my trucks stop you stop getting products to your stores I stocked up|0 Its almost as if treating the livelihood of most of the worlds populace like a slot machine in Vegas is a bad idea|0 Thanks found that|1 Itll certainly help prevents touching face N95s can prevent bacteria if sealed properly etc but it wont stop it A better question is would you rather have no mask or something over your face in the event of a pandemic|0 Same My job is not even essential and we have no plans no ability to work from home just some jugs of hand sanitizer around the office most people arent even using it or washing their hands more People not even covering their mouths when coughing|1 Compassion doing your part to help but come on a not insignificant part of this is getting a chance to say fuck you to the USI feel like this will be downvoted but I cant help but see that this is obviously whats going on|1 No but Ive seen dust devils that are pretty scary|0 Its crazy right I pay like 20k or more each year in taxes and health care my mum has cancer and now this Coronavirus the way I see it Im paying for her cancer care and our potential Coronavirus care Man itd suck to be American right about now|0 Helping each other is what we need right now|1 Thanks for the post I saw a report of Doctors in Northern Italy panicking I dont have the link If you come across such post please post a linkThanks so much|1 And this study was retracted Note The study at the centre of this article on the transmission of the coronavirus was retracted on Tuesday by the journal Practical Preventive Medicine without giving a reason The South China Morning Post has reached out to the papers authors and will update the article|0 You are missing the pointThen what is your point What I hear you saying is It was the mayors responsibility to directly care for the boy with cerebral palsy What I am stating is not The boy should have been left to die but rather The mayor was not the correct person to take care of the child It should have been a medical professional appointed by the citys disaster preparedness teamI dont see anywhere in the article that the mayor accepted responsibility for the boys care or even that he knew about the boy So where are you getting that information from and what should the mayor of the city have actually done Do you expect him to have taken the boy into his house Should he have personally gone through the citys personnell and assigned someone Should he have created over the course of a few days a whole new department for the care of people whose families are in quarantine I have outlined a plan of action that could have prevented the boys death and that could have prevented the boys death without expecting the leader of the city to stop trying to save thousands of lives by working on disease control to focus on only one person But all you have given me is Its the mayors fault So then outline a specific action that the mayor should have takenedit Maybe this makes me heartless by your standards but if I was in a situation where I was working around the clock to save thousands of peoples lives and someone dropped a child off to me who needed constant care I have a friend with a severely disabled child It is not just 15 minutes of feeding a few times a day I would pass the kid on and then attend to my duties controlling the disaster If that makes me heartless then so be it I think its unreasonable to expect the mayor to drop disaster management for thousands to care for one person According to the information I have he did the only thing he could have done given the resources he had If my information is wrong and he made some sort of vow to protect the kid then correct me If he made a promise then he should be expected to keep itAgain this doesnt mean the kid should have been left to die Cities should have systems already in place to make sure things like this dont happen Requiring every case like this to go to the mayor is asking for deaths|0 Is this the person who was refused testing for a few days because he wasnt actually from Wuhan but few hundred kilometers away in Hubei|0 Yeah not happening Spain is very quickly becoming the new Italy|1 1000 agree I think its a fine line to shut things down in a calm and paced manner to avoid panic Let people stock up and shut businesses down so we can properly stay in our homes Should it have been done weeks ago yes But this is what we have|1 gg|1 Nr 6 is like revving a throttle|1 Yeah soon it will be at the point where you should only go to the hospital if you cant breathe because otherwise youre just exposing yourself and you will legitimately be stuck in triage all day|0 Except when people buy to hoard or to exploit the situation and resell|0 I have family in hospitals and emergency services No training The most seen was a 1 page email regarding this virus Like you said there MAY be prep behind the scenes The low level frontline workers would be the LAST to know as usual|0 I want people to come to that realization themselves that this is so typical of this institution Despite the idea that this type of community might do better with straight up being told But on the other hand if they cant figure it out themselves maybe theyre better off where they are|1 What panic have they incited Let me guess all this is a democratic hoax and part of some bigger conspiracy to fuck with trump|0 Well my government says that we should all go to the footy rugby and not worry about it In fact one of our huge events is the royal easter show which was closed in 1919 due to the flu pandemic This time nup going right ahead with that Lets get a million people together over 5 days Wonder how thats going to work out|1 Just like world war z|0 You forgot that the WHO was informed on 1231On 31 December 2019 the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause detected in the city of Wuhan Hubei Province China Chinese authorities have made a preliminary determination of a new coronavirus identified in a hospitalized person with pneumonia in Wuhan httpwwweurowhointenhealthtopicshealthemergenciescoronaviruscovid19newsnews202001novelcoronavirusemergesinchinahttpwwweurowhointenhealthtopicshealthemergenciescoronaviruscovid19newsnews202001novelcoronavirusemergesinchina|1 No 200 in one of the first countries to get their first case outside China Much more intensive links between Singapore and China Italy 17660Singapore 200Oz 120Its pretty obvious heat helps slow it down|1 I have a lot of these just the flu people on Facebook and WhatsApp you bet your ass Im going to call them out if they try to pretend otherwise later|0 Youve gotta be fuckin kidding me|1 Scary as fuck|0 Im sure they doBut saying its only a threat to older people isnt the same as saying If you are young you can carry th disease with no harm to yourself but exceptionally grave harm to your parents and grandparents aunts and uncles|0 Fuck China|0 Well Carter was liberal and incredibly incompetent but he wasnt proCommunistHis efforts to control nuclear proliferation decades later in North Korea was a sincere effort but it turned out to be a Neville Chamberlain moment for him unfortunately|0 Herd immunity if airborne for 3 hours requires 9395 to be infected and recovered|0 Thanks for this post OP gotta stay extra aware from now on|1 I recall hearing about a Miele industrial dishwasher having security issues But Miele is a German brandWhile a connected dishwasher is pretty much pointless for home use it being built for industrial use being networked could monitor specific needs like when to send a technician for a check or automatically ordering detergentBut it also brings network security issues|1 common stop that constant blaming please they did an astounding job managing that crisis that no other country could have donehttpswwwvoxcom20203221161067coronaviruscovid19chinahttpswwwvoxcom20203221161067coronaviruscovid19china|0 i was thinking of doing this too however im not sure how long this pandemic is going to take to settle down and some of the foster homes are requiring a minimum 4 months of fostering how long are you going to be fostering this one|0 I was really really ill over the weekend about 3 weeks ago Like delirious talking to myself 41c fever The second i said that the ambulance was on its way and made me wear a mask the entire time Turns out i only had influenza A but they took it pretty seriously Im in QLDOnce it was clear i had an infectious disease i was put into an isolation ward what a fun weekend that was|1 The vast majority of competitive businesses run on very low percentage margin This is the result of a competitive market and excepting times of crisis ensures competitive pricing on goods and competitive pay for workers What this means however is that despite some very large revenue numbers even some of the biggest corporations run on as little as 5 gross margin For these businesses if money isnt coming in the door through sales then theres nothing to pay employees|0 The alternative is also very dangerous There is no good solution here|0 This People need to realize this is bigger than trying to score a win for their politics|1 The only ones being developed are exactly that No ones attempting to make a simple inactivated virus vaccine for a reason science already knows they make the real infection worse Thats why were seeing all kinds of new technologies being used in the vaccines being developed|0 Id definitely rather the States handle this than nationally with this incompetent Presidential US admin right now|0 Maybe its just my own paranoia but I dont feel safe here lmao I hope it gets better and they start taking measurements revealing the real number of people infected or something|1 Yeah this is awesome how some Of the huge Corona news is right in our backyard s|1 this thread is fucking horrifying|0 How do u slow the rate of infections when u take no measures against it|0 I found the number 1 rule during potential disasters is do not depend on your government to help you The only person you can depend on in these situations is yourself so stock up now the more prepared you are the longer you can potentially ride this out comfy style with a good book Also please remember the bleach|1 Reddit will not allow me to post the link but it the first one in this Google searchhttpswwwgooglecomsearchqhowtoreportitemebayoqhowtoreportitemebay then report as prohibited and restricted items other prohibited items medical devices or you could also report them as prohibited and restricted items illegal items other Illegal activity concerns|0 this is a massive part of the problem While she has somewhat of a point on treatment until you have serious breathing issues there isnt anything they can do people need to know if they have it They need to know they cant do anything for 14 days maybe more otherwise they could spread it even if they feel better Plus all this aid for money either from companies or the federal government requires you or a person you care for to be diagnosed with the Coronavirus How in the hell am I supposed to get diagnosed if they dont test people besides the super serious casesBTWI know full well these issues and didnt even bother going to the doctor or hospital Had 102 degree fever Friday into most of Saturday My cough has gotten a bit worse but I am feeling better Personally I would really like to know if I need to keep up to a 14 day quarantine or if I need to monitor my oxygen levels I would also like to know if I had it for antibody reasons I think there is a blood test that can be done for that but I can guarantee I am not going to get approved to get it|1 Please be civil|1 So a few high volume stores in my district have been closed and are given whats being called catastrophic pay meaning they are being paid for whatever hours they were meant to work in the next two week However the store that is right next to the hospital because it is considered relatively low volume is still remaining openYesterday I actually had two or three customers say thanks for staying open stay safe and it made me really frustrated We would all be a lot safer if you all just stayed the fuck home and made your own coffee it really is that fucking simple if you do indeed care about our safety|1 With no travel history or contact with a known case|0 I can understand that Its just frustrating to me hearing that Trump is issuing travel bans and what not and Trudeau is honestly doing nothing to protect Canadians The whole thing comes off as a cringy meme over here like it cant ever become serious like were immune to the whole thing I have small children to think about its honestly kind of scary|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the 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than a dozen in China racing to open facilities to treat growing number of caseshttpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3049901shanghaibuildingnewinfectiousdiseasehospitalcoronavirus|1 Oh please The doomer wing here is just as pushy with misinformation People in this sub now take the man made claims as gospel I was downvoted heavily the other day for calling them out on their BS|0 theyre not fine at all|0 You got that right I cannot believe how bad our Country is failing us And not many in our Country are taking it seriously They believe everything the CDC is lying to us all about|0 Correction regarding point 7 By the official numbers currently only 004 of Italy is infected so nearly 10 times less than what you claim 25000 people on a population of 60000000|0 Yeah whether theyre lying or telling the truth about him testing negative it seems like theyre intentionally muddying the waters and trying to discredit the media I expected more maturity in such a delicate situation but I guess I put way too much faith in Bolsonaros ability to act like a normal human being|1 Thanks for this I need something thats not just bad news |1 Uhnot true If landlords want to get rid of tenants its very hard to do so in NYC You cant evict people after just missing a few months rent So long as the tenants show up in court they can get more chances to get their funds together|1 I dont think this is a fair comparison|1 Lots of people are calling to book cleanings and fillings So much for social distancing Ive heard of some hairdressers being overwhelmed this week as well A lot of people are not staying home guys Some people gotta look nice for the coroner I guess|1 Correct They arent even giving them masks yet Not in Neonates preemies anyway no tests or masks for staff|0 Pretty sure we all were|1 Whatever itll clear out a lot of boomer voters and open up some jobs that actually pay|1 The argument being made here is that Michael Osterham bullshit that we will be hamstringing our healthcare staff by taking away their childcareSomehow it is better to risk illness in 100 of families than to just solve the problem by providing daycare for healthcare workers This is being treated like a rocket science level obstacle Wtf people use the cafeteria and gym at a few schools as daycare for those kids and any who have compelling need send the rest home Keep the cafeterias open to provide free lunch and breakfast if feeding community members is an issue Any and all of these options is infinitely safer than keeping 200 families mingling in a cesspool of germs together during a dangerous epidemic|0 You have the WHO to blame for that|0 So short ppl can save the world Sweeeeet Can finally contribute|1 Dont forget pet food Thats on my list for tomorrow Stocked up on beans and rice yesterday Have plenty of baking supplies for bread and such Powdered milk gag yuk if we need milk My SO has an autoimmune disorder so we have to take extra precautions|0 Yeah we do have an average to work on I only responded to you because you seem to be implying that flu season declining actually has anything to do with our ability to pick up cases And Im not sure that it does Regardless of what season were in we still have previous years data as well as current tends to compare with|1 I think they are saying that because they dont want to waste the masks there in short supply so they need to keep them for medical staff Once there is community to community transmission eg not from being in contact with someone who has traveled then everyone will be wanting a mask and the quarantine begins|1 As I always told my Epis Dont make me do math I can but it is so painfulThis is a good one for that new group of professionals They love this kind of question and I want to see the answer|1 Yeah hes lying bigger than shit|0 Theres no stopping Coronachan|0 What about all the people that are illegally crossing the border that could be infected though|0 In addition to offering many of its employees the ability to work from home this week Apple is also taking steps to ensure the wellbeing of its retail workers 9to5Mac has learned that Apple hourly employees including retail workers are getting unlimited sick leave if they experience COVID19 symptomsApple retail workers are not required to submit a doctors note for this time off This means that if theyre experiencing the COVID19 symptoms they can take the time that they need without having to worry about running out of sick days or providing a note to managementIt is also paid leave as well the article doesnt mention it but a few of my friends that work at Apple received a memo stating that it is paid|1 Japan also has an aging population problem though Are they trying to solve it|0 What are the chances the season is cancelled early I am fucking terrified this will happen|0 Just to clarify I wasnt calling for or not calling for quarantines I was sharing a study that was newsworthy|1 its not free the government is paying for it what is your point|0 Nah man theres no way that will happen cmon dude|0 Lack of energy reluctance to get out of bed SymptomI guess Ill die|0 No its not excessive Though depends on how big they are|0 httpswwwnytimescom20200205technologyepochtimesyoutubehtmlNY times is propaganda too httpswwwbusinessinsidercomfacebooksaysprotrumpmediaoutletusedfakeprofiles201912Business Insider as wellBoth of these outlet didnt support free speech they must be CCP shills Is this your argumentEpoch Times is well known for their work If I m brainwashed I should disbelieve all foreign media but Im not I only oppose bad sources Your mentality is anyone disagree with me is a troll which is not good|0 Jesus christ So if they arent testing that many people it could be alot worse then what the official numbers are right now I wouldnt be surprised if we start to see a surge in the number of deaths due to lack of testing people for the virus|0 probaby because when this gets bad they will all have it anyway better to use limited resources to battle the spread of itEdit you ate all morons Think these tests are growing on trees Pretty much all the grwlthcare workers on Italy have it already what the fuck is the point in terting them when they cant stop working anyway What wre they going to do Infect the infected Do you think they arent taking precautions already to insure the healthcare workers cant spread anything themselves Fucking children you all must be|0 Negative income tax Basically you distribute wealth from the top and also save money by reducing the administrative overhead as there is no longer need for a bunch of social transfer programs Also the hope is that people will have more incentive to work and break out of the poverty spiral because there is no longer a cap on what you can earn on the side compared to right now when youre on benefits It is unknown if this would work but clearly our current system leaves plenty to be desired so might as well try something different|1 Planned a trip to Vienna in the first days of April still thinking if I should panic and cancel or keep calm and go for it|0 Im so sorry I hope youre both okay through this|1 Weve had Katrina yes What about second Katrina|1 Wait shit this looks like a different ship from the Yokohama one Goddamn|0 Having worked for GameStop Im completely not shocked|1 My greatgrandmother was 9 in 1918 She actually survived the flu but lost her mother an aunt and a cousin One of her earliest memories was lying in quarantine on the hill outside of a local hospital people around her dying She ended up dropping out of school to help take care of her brothers she was the oldest left at home I think about her survival a lotwithout it I wouldnt be here She lived a long life and died in 2009 3 weeks short of her 100th birthday She was an absolute rockstar|0 The Spanish Influenza would like to have a word with you|1 Can you go and cry somewhere else Thanks|0 Every little bit helps bring R0 down though|1 Yay I think the only times its not okay is during a funeral child birth or if the person saying it is an active shooter|1 This is perfection|1 Ive been losing my mind My wifes a nurse and Ive been asking about preparations her hospital was making for weeks only to hear that they have none Finally this week theyre trying but its chaos No coordination between area hospitals still no requirement to wear ppe Every hospital is making its own policy on the fly Thank god they limit visitors and prohibit hospital workers from intermingling now It wont be enough though and its probably to late Lots of area hospitals have post mortem positives now it wont be long until there are few functioning hospitals in this area|0 Its way later than optimal but controlling the entrance of new vectors is very valuable That said significant community transmission is almost certainly happening and we have to shut down a lot more than the border at this point the ideal solution is to shut down everything except essential services for 2 weeks while we identify the vast majority of cases then while keeping the borders shut contain any small residual outbreaks as they come by mass testing all people with any level of symptoms|1 It takes two weeks for a rotation of sick to manifest So yes you will keep hearing this as more and more countries go down if you are annoyed leave the sub|0 Jesus will protect you just need to have faith|1 We have something similar in my area too and it seems that the prices are higher for most items Or theyre the exact same price as buying them in a grocery store but you may need to drive to several different locations to get everything you need Its not very popular in my area since its more expensive and its more convenient to go to the store but in theory it sounds great|1 Oh no Ive caught a minor flu how will my ego ever recover|0 My friend is an ER doctor and they had two confirmed cases last night but I cant find those cases ANYWHERE on the news or shown in the case counts That tells me this is happening in hospitals all over the place Its spread more than they report That coupled with the fact that they are only testing certain people despite proven community transmissionyeahhhh bad news|0 For sure We lived in a mist of alcohol hand cleaner washed our hands until they were sore and avoided contact with all people at the hospital Its 8 days ago no symptoms so far but we are sheltering in place and denying all visitors until this situation has stabilized|0 Take an upvote And good for ppl going on cruises the next few weeks Maybe cancel|1 My conservative friends on Facebook keep posting how we are overreacting and this will all blow over quickly Wait until we actually starttesting more people and the numbers go way up their story will change to the next bullshit excuse Faux News tells them We know how this goes now from every other thing thats happened|0 Hey I can understand that hope he feels better pronto|1 Curious how herd immunity would work if there are some proven cases of reinfection|1 We have a national nursing shortage And at the same time hospitals employ the bare minimum needed to staff their hospital 6 patients to 1 nurse unless its ICU So we really dont get to provide optimal care because we are slammed already Then something like this happens and you can imagine the chaosLook up National Safe Nurse Staffing Ratios and see how we have been fighting to change this to no avail|1 Going on a little over a month for me No idea why but I put them down one day and never thought about them again The smell is absolutely disgusting to me nowOP you can do this PM me if you need someone to talk to during the tough times|0 Maybe trump is the super spreader yikes|1 Unfortunately this is a complete lie and misinformation spread by TOIHeres the version from the Techies knowns httpsfacebookcomyasharchitposts3101605686550147|0 Why do you think that the United States would do better than China with the handling of this Genuinely curious what you think makes the US better equipped than China for a viral outbreak like this|1 In any area like DC NY or Seattle people should be wearing masks when possible We are barely doing tests for covid and we are discouraging masksThe fuck|0 This needs to be mentioned more Most people I speak to are unaware of it they think this is oneanddone|0 china ahhh nnox200Bmaybe not direct infection we will never know the numbers of those who died from exacerbated circumstances|0 I hate that Im so worried about my dad who smoked for 30 years Im thinking about buying him an oxygen tank and mask to keep at home|0 548 Im an optimist|1 If the way I end up getting sick is bc I only let it set for 2 minutes instead of 4 minutes I was just meant to get sick|0 Im beginning to think that people are deliberately ignoring the fact that the Chinese government deliberately suppressed news of the outbreakhttpsnypostcom20200229chinaofficialsknewofcoronavirusindecemberorderedcoverupreportsays to save face I dont know why people on Reddit are doing this but its either Chinese propaganda to mislead us in the West or people with a political axe to grind against the current US administrationThis virus was probably floating around outside of China for SIX weeks before anyone outside of the CCP knew it even existedhttpsthehillcompolicyhealthcarepublicglobalhealth485389coronavirusmayhavespreadundetectedinusforweeksIt perfectly explains why things quickly went critical in Iran and Italy at the same time It was already there before any government outside of China could do anything about it and yet its the US governments faultStop letting the Chinese government off the hook for this We must sanction them for this as this is outrageous behavior that has endangered millions|0 In ALL parts of the country There fixed itWe had the virus here USA same time as south Korea The only reason we arent seeing more cases is simply because no testing is being doneMy GF and I had been showing mild symptoms I still am after she was exposed to it through her work Couldnt get tested even if we wanted In the process we discovered our insurance may or may not cover the test if we could take it depending on which symptoms and the severity of said symptoms we had they were incapable of telling us where the line was and we were unwilling to take the financial risk Which obviously implies the test isnt free yet nobody was capable of giving us a figure After a bit of research it seems the number is around 3k but I cant say for sureIts already widespread in america and its just a matter of testing people enough to have the official numbers reflect that But because of the way the healthcare system works here and the fact payed sick leave is not a thing I expect most people to just ignore their symptoms We selfquarantined for a bit but need to go back to work if we dont want to go bankrupt so we will be extra careful but good luck everyone|0 If this information was known on Saturday the governor sat on it until Sunday and then health departments didnt call people until Tuesday thats unacceptable she said in an interview Thursday Were not getting the right information NemethHarn said a friend who was on the same flight but lives in Pinellas County was told by her local health department she did not need to selfquarantine That friend continued with her life NemethHarn said as she and her 70yearold husband stayed inside I recommend reading this whole article to see how shitty the process has been edit I have also contacted the newspaper regarding a presumed positive case possibly 2 in Pinellas County from earlier this week that has not been reported My family has heard from two unrelated contacts that work at a medical facility|1 The infections in Italy are still a tiny percentage of the population MinusculeAnd hospital struggles to support that Reality is quite different from your context in your numbersimagine if the virus got 05 of Italys population|1 You seem a decent fellow I hate to die|0 Sounds like the tests are shit more than anything at this point|0 The only way to vote this administration out this November is to vote in this primary dont wait till November unless you want Biden to be elected and lose badly|0 It can live up to 9 days on surfaces Viral shedding in a contagious person can occur between 2 days before symptoms begin and 1 day after symptoms are over|0 Why wont someone think of the poor CCP|0 As someone who just paid 900 after a discount for a couple of tooth fillings I totally agree Cant even imagine being able to afford hospitalization for something serious|1 Looked briefly and cant find them again atm Ill look again when I get another chance It also wasnt official projections but rather a redditor who calculated the spread based on the current rate of spread of infection from countries more heavily affected The virus has been shown doubling every 6 days At this rate of increase the number of infexted becomes quite large quite quickly Given the lack of US response we can likely expect similar outcome or sadly worse|0 Transmission of SARS via plumbing did happen in HK But I dont have solid evidence of transmission through plumbing In a city of northern China a man was diagnosed with COVID19 where there was a COVID19 patient living in the same apartment|0 There are teens literally children on a subreddit here that lets you click a photo with a 5050 chance of seeing a cute bunny or a human corpse hanging from a treeWhat sub|1 This is interesting because Im pretty sure I had this last week and I took IB profin 12 500mg a day and I definitely felt like it wasnt helpingwas making it worse|1 x200BThank you friend Were learning a lot from what you guys have been through Back in January I saw videos of people in Wuhan cheering each other on from their balconies I shared it with my family and genuinely started crying These days were organizing nationwide appointments at 18 h to sing the national anthem and other popular songsThank you for inspiring us and supporting us Take care and stay safe 3|1 Youre right in some respects but my point was more that we COULD begin to replicate south korea soon Testing is ramping up rapidly in a ton of states right now and mass production of test kits are coming pretty soon The Mayo Clinic went from only being able to test 50 patients a day a week ago to 400 a day now and they said by the next few days itll be 2500 a day They said in the near future they could theoretically test tens of thousands That is just one hospital albeit a large one Its not like we incapable of this The real issue in terms of earlyaction is not necessarily mitigation so much as its healthcare South Korea acted early meaning their hospitals didnt quite get overwhelmed easily Our hospitals will if possibly only for a brief amount of time depending on how well mitigation works One thing is that our hospitals at least in NYC are rapidly expanding capacity and bracing hard for the virus Italy never had that It hit them suddenly without them expecting it at all NYC has implemented heavy restrictions on travelmovement and expanded hospitals etc before the virus has even hit 500 cases here Testing capacity in NY has increased tremendously in just the past few days now able to test thousands of patients a day Im just saying there is still hope Things are rapidly changing towards better mitigation|1 FAKE NEWS lalalalala|0 Its not exactly safe for those of us with office jobs either Our company is losing clients and money hand over fist during the crisis Its likely that I wont have a job in 6 months and my job isnt evergreen like being a software engineer I also still have to go to the store to buy food just like you Luckily I can still live on unemployment if I lose my job but making 60 of my income is going to drastically cut down my ability to do any discretionary spending and thus the economy will tank even harder|0 Just another case of Orange Man Bad|0 Here in the US of A most people are getting laid off and going on unemployment if they cant work from home myself included Oofta its been a week|0 But most Austrians dont take it seriously at all Ive seen like 5 99 people partys in my Facebook feed|1 Lol someone tell Canadian officials this I think theyre shifting to testing only the more serious cases because of limited kits|1 This is amazing Im hoping other cities will follow suit|1 That has been commented multiple times thanks Its not a normal day at my Costco|1 I heard at the first people in Wuhan died on the ground of hospital because not enough doctorsbut we sent 10 thousands doctors to wuhan from other province Build two big hospitals and several mobile cabin hospitals in two weeks in wuhan now the daily growth in wuhan droped from 2000 to 8|0 Nah put the employee in a full yellow tyvek suit Thatll keep people away without asking|0 Fuck that company 11000 for a valve that costs 100 is criminal Sounds to me like they hold peoples lives hostage|0 Yes same here Test is due on Wednesday and the expectation is that if it is successful then we will wfh from then on|1 Revisit these sentiments in about 6 weeks time Wherever you live you will see the devastation this kind of thinking will bring to your communityThis situation isnt driving the rest of the world into anxiety it is driving them to action because sacrificing for fellow human beings is what makes us human and worthy of one anotherThere is a difference between taking precautions and doing your part to not perpetrate the spread of this virus and rampant disregard for everyone I cannot believe people with your mindset exist Tragedy is you dont see the error of your ways and there are apparently many of you out there Unfortunately you will be forced to see it but it will be too late|0 Fair enough I didnt think it was added to the dictionary until late 19th century So you aint wrong at all|1 No buddy 1 Trump has no control over the cdc and their testing kits They were unprepared for this just like Ebola The Ebola disaster wasnt Obamas fault Look at the terrible CDC track record Your own hate is getting in the way of logic2 How in the hell do you explain Italy Was Trump in charge there too lol you ppl are insane seriously|0 Oh hes already used hand sanitizer whenever he gets back from the bathroom for the last two years Its pretty nastyI am the same with good hygiene especially during coldflu season Last coldflu season me and my child had one slight cold despite going to 25 major childrens hospital appointments for my child I just dont directly touch buttonsdoors and regularly washsanitize my hands|1 httpswwwstraitstimescomsingapore8newcoronaviruscasesinsingaporewithanother8dischargedhttpswwwstraitstimescomsingapore8newcoronaviruscasesinsingaporewithanother8discharged I see the PA clearly mentioned here|1 Yep Paid off the credit card which had been piling up keeping dad alive Now max it out again keeping the kids alive Maybe it will be Fight Club Where Is My Mind scene and the banks are rubble before the bills are in collections We shall see|1 Imagine if most people had your attitude instead of going cos they paid for it and dont want to have wasted moneyMost people are able to pull off eye watering levels of denial|0 Oh Damn wow This is actually something Ive been interested in even before I left the church Just a simple wiki away huh|1 ironically a major US city tends to have pretty phenomenal resources for emergency care I feel more for the people in the boonies since their hospitals and outpatient clinics have been closing for years|1 No a virus will mutate to be less deadly because that allows it to spread to more hosts|0 Thats the entire point though This is a mass casualtydisaster event in certain areas yet people are still acting like its just the flu or saying dont believe the hysteria Theres zero evidence right now that this cant happen anywhere else in the world Hysteria isnt the correct reaction but concern and preparedness is absolutely called for Theres a lot of people mistaking concern and preparedness with hysteria unfortunatelyExactly I am concerned paying attention and am well prepared I will not have hysteria if my country gets locked down as I have anticipated it and prepared accordingly Unlikely I will get it as I will work from home and stop all errands well before a major breakout in my area|1 At the same time the Wuhan area has an increase in chemicals associated with the cremation of bodies as well as medical supplies and fossil fuels Windycom a Czechbased weather service showed sulphur dioxide levels in the city of Wuhan at a mindboggling 1350 micrograms per cubic metre gm3 which is horrifying when taking into consideration the fact that safe dosage as per the World Health Organisation WHO is 500 gm3 It has not been verified that high SO2 levels are caused by burning virus victims due to the colourless gas produced by the burning of fossil fuels like coal and oil Areas around Beijing and Shanghai which are not on lockdown also displayed high levels of SO2 A bold claim was made by a news outlet based in China named Initium when they stated that the Chinese authorities have been cremating bodies in secret To back their arguments they produced interviews with people working at local cremation centres in Wuhan who said that the bodies were sent directly from hospitals without proper identification let alone adding them to the official record httpswwwmsncomeninnewsotherhighso2levelsreportedaroundwuhanandchongqingtheworldsuspectschineseofficialsofburningcoronaviruscorpsesarBBZSxifhttpswwwmsncomeninnewsotherhighso2levelsreportedaroundwuhanandchongqingtheworldsuspectschineseofficialsofburningcoronaviruscorpsesarBBZSxif|1 Yep its extremely dangerous in health pandemics Not a big deal for video games but if you have people mass buying up the most in demand items as soon as theyre available and then selling them at extremely high prices these people are just making everything worse Fewer people with the items they need to prevent getting sick and prevent spreading it to others if they are mean more people get sick|0 Stop lying The UK strategy is significantly more pessimistic in its assumptions than say Italys Italy is working on the assumption that they can shut the virus down and control that lightblue peak Were working on the assumption that we cant Its too early to say which is correct or even which is more likely to correct its essentially dependent on whenif a vaccine andor more effective treatments become available most of the world is betting on in time to deal with that light blue spike while were assuming basically never were literally working on the assumption that there will never be a vaccine and that sporadic coronavirus outbreaks will be the new normal essentially forever|0 For what VP Pence has been working for the past 2 weeks to get testing implemented nationwide and Trump has released up to 50 billion dollars in federal funds to fight this virus Or because it wasnt done on the first day If you want to hold someone accountable the fucking chinese authorities are at fault for this thing spreading|0 Thats because theres only a small number of cases and enough space in England to give people their own temporary housing Cant exactly do that to everyone in Wuhan can we|1 Sorry I dont do personal information on Reddit suffice to say its dependent on International trade so I think its fucked in the shortmedium term anywayHopefully there will be opportunities on the other side Got to get through this first to find out though|0 I have no idea how theyll do something similar in brazil Sao Paulo is one of top 10 largest cities in the world Howll they manage to lock it downBesides government is far right if they show indications of a lock down all the media will cry its a dictatorship|0 Thank you for explaining|1 I would tell them the same things I tell everyone elseCome back if you get worse Anything you get can get worse Flu RSV HMPV Paraflu etc|0 Theres no hope of containment anymore in any of Canadas large cities The window of opportunity to stop community spread has passed and leadership has failed The focus now should be shifted on either buying veniltators to set up more ICU beds or getting ventilators made if none of are available for purchase Get the manufacturers on the phones and do what it takes to get these veniltators|0 They dont care about the lives of their people which makes quarantining their cities all the more surprising knowing how it will be catastrophic for their economy especially with it being Lunar New Year Make your own conclusions based on that fact on just how serious this virus is|0 Living in Georgia they arent doing shit nearly fast enough Purposefully hiding the 100k estimated cases because they dont want to cause panic Too late for that shit no tp or food but half of those people think this will blow over in a week|0 The ripping on China comes from the madness in seeing a lack of free speechI dont know about you but that really rubs me the wrong way Culture is like that It isnt that I find nothing admirable about China I can find plenty to admire Its that Chinas deficits strike right at the heart of my valuesI dont think Ive ever taken a poll but Id bet most Americans value freedom more highly than unity if forced to choose between That doesnt mean that we see one term as universally lacking in value It just means that we have a culture of appreciating our freedom more highly than our unity You could make a list of adjectives and ask each person to choose between them and I think youd be able to tease out culture from the responsesDo you prefer honor or freedomDo you prefer unity or choiceDo you prefer integrity or efficiencyDo you prefer respect or opennessDo you prefer options or functionalityAnd so onCreating the fictional binary choices reveals what we value And values vary by culture And values are not some moral absolute But they are integral to who we are and how we see the world including China|1 If you would lose the bride as a friend because of this she really isnt a friend worth keeping|1 British airline Flybe just went bankrupt|0 I am working from home from now on Not sure what virus caused my recent pneumonia odd at such a young age too Ive never had pneumonia of any type before and do not smoke or drink Im asthmatic and am ttc at the moment so have been really healthy and taking all the vitamins I need no idea how or why I caught the viral pneumonia or where It felt like cuts in my lungs it was horrible I do know Ive definitely been around 1000s of people in the last 5 weeks which makes me scared My husband 31 with no health issues also got the same viral infection but his was only a chest infection and temperature for a week or two I asked 111 to test me about 3 times but they refused What can I say I tried|0 Jesus I wish people like my friends and family would get this Im constantly getting told its just like the flu and the media is blowing this out of proportion|1 Probably your autotranslator Amazed at how good they are nowadays really you cant even tell that it wasnt written in English|1 Im affected by this My income went down to literally 0 Im not working now Am I just supposed to blow through my savings paying rent What if I didnt have any savings Most people my age dont have savings to keep paying their rent for very long without any income|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 UC should develop their own fucking test They have the best public universities in the world and some of the best medical schools in the world They also have access to BSL4 facilities|1 The worst case scenario is looking really bad for the next few years |0 My guess is this shit is about to go sideways in the US we simply didnt do enough when we still had time|0 Show the videos of people being dumped in mass graves then it should be easy to proveI have seen plenty of videos of people being buried in normal graves but no mass graves|0 Trump has a hunch that the mortality rate is under 1 Its all good|1 Masks dont do shit to stop you from catching only to stop you from spreading|0 I believe the American that died in China was an Asian woman but that info comes from other reddit comments so take it with some salt|0 Not convinced theyre helping|0 This is just basic decency it saddens me that even in these times you still have to ask people to do this|0 I hate to break it to you but at this point its way more than toilet paper I tried to go yesterday and almost everything was gone it was fucking surreal Like something out of a movie Almost all nonperishable goods wiped out all cereals chips frozen food cleaning supplies everything gone gone gone I left empty handed Went from being concerned to downright terrified over the span of 5 minutes|0 My mantra in this has been lets wait and see what local transmission rates are AND local fatality rate and then we can decide to panic or not Im concerned yes But Im trying to approach this logically|0 One senator one congressman and several White House execs Trump included should already be in quarantine for the CPAC cases The senator and congressman at least claim to be in self quarantineTrump and Pence however seem to be going about their fundraising business Pence had an earlier hand shake with a positive in Florida last week Im sure theyve got servants rubbing down everything they come near but I cant think of anything more likely to give you a fastspreading virus than walking the receiving lines day after day and night after night This goes for the also elderly Dem candidates too So many of these people are in the 815 mortality range I just cant imagine were not going to be facing even more topdown chaos in the coming months|0 That is their case fatality rate No one in the world knows the true mortality rate of this disease at least not for a while after the pandemic is overThe amount of people Ive seen get confused over simple data actually astonishes me|0 How do Europeans not want to help them lmao|1 Curiosity making assumptions and thinking is great Sorry to have reacted this is a sensitive question Edit It was also a good question I didnt know that the AngloSaxon countries didnt have these kinds of laws Obviously the draft law date from 1934 but it was the infamous Vichy government that promulgated it Perhaps to force the French people to help the German soldiers victims of attacks Ironic|0 It is brilliant|1 Claiming that the advisory to the government is too educated to realise the entire strategy is stupid is advocating for the establishment Your entire position is science bad common sense good how is that out of context|0 CNN for instance Post at the top looks fine to me Youre the one doesnt like it|1 Good call Ive been doing the same Know that any prescribed or recommended solution will ever have a true cure for the true moment of wanting one Transcend that feeling with pushups or whatever and make sure to get your family up to speed on what you see about to happen|1 I went the the other way Ive overcoming pneumonia as diagnosed by my doctor but Ive been worried they should have tested me just in case But this is definitely not a dry cough so now Im relieved Other than I still cant breathe well but thats another thing|1 alot of revolutions happened because the people had very little power to begin withsounds like were ripe for a revolution then representative democracy means nothing when the candidates represent the interests of capitalistssomehow having all the things the government sucks at like medicine and educationgovernment doesnt really suck at medicine the us has terrible healthcare specifically because its a forprofit industrycountries with more government involvement get way better results for way less money this is clear evidence that a public service model that treat medicine as a human right as anarchists advocate for is much more effective even though there would be clear differences between current and anarchist healthcare systemsyour making it sound as if getting rid of government will mean us living in some utopia where we enjoy all the pleasantries we currently havethat would be nice but id be satisfied with keeping our planet habitable for future generationssomething our representative governments are barely concerned with|1 Youve got thisDont vape Cut the chains and go nicotine free |1 This gives updates at approximately 1030am and 530pm about new cases It doesnt always say the hospital but it does say the region Hope it helps httpswwwontariocapage2019novelcoronavirus|1 Eh if you have to wade through the same stuff you might miss new stuff Im not against sharing it but theres a recent post with the same article|0 Preach What happens if the supply chain workers who supply our food and goods we need get sick for 26 wks minimum and maybe even stagger going out but also have loved ones they have to go help take care of The list goes on and on|1 Because we have a low number of people We have a normal amount compared to other developed nations|0 I think youre way off there This will bring home to all parties how important it is and how much the electorate value it Remember how powerful the NHS brexit bus slogan was|1 Last time in hospital Hmm maybe 16 years ago when I was a teen I know people how they think how they act I do know more than most people simply because I am willing to accept more And I will not rush to hospital where I will not get any treatment and probably have a higher chance to be infected or reinfected Id rather accept my death in peace of my home Hospitals in Russia not worth my dying breath|1 Good god you woke twitter people are insufferable Hes emphasizing the Chinese part so that we get motivated to bring manufacturing back to the US and decrease our dependence on foreign powers He said this multiple times during his segment|1 They protect neither|1 I have professional experience in NodeJS Ruby and Rails Python and LinuxUnix environments Also frontend stuff like React Vuejs csssass etc I would be happy to help out with any worthwhile projects Dont hesitate to get in touch You have my axe|1 Everywhere in Singapore is air conditioned The whole country is like one big mall|1 Of course its easier said than done To paraphrase those who would trade liberty for a little safety deserve neitherAn extremely inopportune time to start talking individual liberty when an infectious disease is running amok One persons individual liberty can mean hundreds of deaths|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 This wouldnt have happened if China wasnt China but China also is the best a dealing with this type of mess|1 What about ABTell me man now i want to know real bad|0 China and S Korea are very serious about not letting this virus back into their countries after the work theyve done to get rid of it I wonder how this will play out for them I dont see any other option for humans right now except laying low until a vaccination or more effective drugs for treatment become readily available|1 Lol there goes your limited mask supplyIf demand goes up and supply is stable prices must go up or youll have a shortage as people consume more than they ought to|1 Yeah thats what I though terrible headline better article|1 Its been shown to not help with treatment but increase viral clearance time with MERS Thats why its not recommended Steroids are natural immune suppressants so it can impair our bodys ability to fight back infectionIn cases where we think our body is overreacting and causing more harm than good such as in lung inflammation leading to ARDS then steroids might be indicated Medicine is very complicated and we need more data about this disease to know and even then depends on individual clinical picture Theres a reason it takes 10 years to train one doctor|1 Right but if this person only is able to leave the house every other day and they only actually leave every 4th day then 100 pairs of gloves would last over a year|0 Theres nothing universal about it nor basic Paying people to sit at home is the opposite of what UBI proponents want|1 I can think of several other bus tours cruise ships and other super spreader events These are quite frequent for Coronavirus|1 From what I read the paper only binned the age group that way 15 1549 5065 and 65Considering our current stats 02 mortality rate for 40 and 04 for 4050 it would be wise to assume that age 1540 might be slightly lower than 12 and age 4050 slightly higher than 12|1 I mean I bought a Washington Post subscription because of this virus got tired of clicking links that dead ended and Id been debating it for over a year anyway|0 Mardi Gras was last week too so yeah|1 Well there was the very recent Lancet paper Real estimates of mortality following COVID19 infectionhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS147330992030195XfulltextTheir number was 57 and then 20 when hospitals get overrunusing WHO data on the cumulative number of deaths to March 1 2020 mortality rates would be 56 95 CI 5458 for China and 152 125179 outside of ChinaThey also actually estimate a 20 percent mortality rate for Wuhan|1 I dont know what that is If I have some of it laying around my house Im happy to share|1 I would like my hand sanitizer on the rocks with a twist|1 Well he just proved he is a narcissist|1 Holy shit Hang in there OP|0 Normalcy BiashttpsenwikipediaorgwikiNormalcybias Its why governments will always drop the ball on unprecedented events|0 Dude I hope you are still OK|1 There is a two week lag between quarantine measures and a reduction in hospital visits I hope noone gets caught in that|1 The unrealistic thing about that part of the game though is that the mutation couldnt just happen across the board to all virions Maybe they should release a new game mode with more realistic game mechanics They could call it hardcore difficulty or something|0 Mine is paid for but in Beijing I wish I was still in Dali|1 Lol where is your area |1 It depends on the 3d part and what role it played Some 3d printers can print with carbon fiber imbeded or even entirely in metal So the durability is not going to be equivalent to stainless steel but its also not like they are limited to only flimsy plastics If the durability was the only question a local machine shop could have likely CNCed the part to the necessary specsI do see your point with the blood suckers but it wouldnt be any different than an experimental treatment to save a life There are wavers and other avenues to limit liabilityI think the point here is the actions of the vendor There were likely other alternatives they just chose to pursue an unfavorable one|0 Great news I wonder if this 4 includes the 7 births that were already studiedhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673620303603fulltext If so that brings the total to 11 and in all cases the babies were healthy and did not have CoVid|1 Happens all the time but since its topical sure heres Korea treating undocumented immigrantshttpsinsightcokrnews273509While we are social beings the group mentality can be we as humans or we as a planet Defining the we as nationality is not universal|1 This is only those who got tested which tends to lean way way more towards people with worse symptoms than the average infected population In China they specifically had announcements telling people with mild symptoms to stay home That is going to be a massive impact on any statistics we have because those people never got counted|0 All this bashing Reddit is doing is not fucking helping Thats my point This is beyond one guy You are dealing with a bureaucratic government that has more red tape than you can imagine Thats the problem When was the last time you had to wait in line to get a building permit or your drivers lic renewed And that is just your local government None of this incompetence by the CDC should surprise anyone Im sick of people turning this sub into politics Being downvoted by people who think the government is this fine tuned Johnny on the spot machine|0 Wait what Theyre saying this virus is some sort of democrat plot God damn trumpsters are fucking stupid|0 I didnt create the sub l came on board when it was already up and running I offered to help because l had some insights into what mightmight not work Honestly l dont have to create outbreaks Enough just happen|0 Why do we think they opted for a 43 year old That sounds exponentially riskier than testing on a 2530 year old|0 You think the US is still a first world country Thats cute|1 Medical student here and masks I could buy in store are just not the same ones that I saw in the hospital They try to blame the public for incompetence of hospital management|0 I hope you feel better soonI went out on Tuesday and had to pass by a guy who was coughing like crazy there was literally no way to avoid passing him Ever since Ive noticed some symptoms but theyve been VERY mild compared to yours chills I was sweating and shivering all night sore throat and headache on and off a slight temperature a minor cough nothing more than a little tickle earache and a tight chest not in a severe I cant breathe type way at the moment it feels more like anxiety but it doesnt ease up even if I relax or slow my breath which makes me think it could be just a cold But given that theyre not testing anyone outside of hospitals Ill never knowIm still selfisolating just in case I work from home all year round so its business as usual for me|0 I see so you are saying if they do 3 shifts they would triple their production I guess thats kind of excess capacity although usually excess capacity is more like in the prime season I can do 10 units but in other seasons I do 8 units so I have an excess of 2 units So when people talk excess capacity they arent generally talking about 247 running|1 Im all for Bernie but shut the fuck up|0 If I didnt work in the medical field Id be all for it Id hate to dip into our future house savings but we wont be terribly off should we stay home Id love to catch up on video gamesBut I would have more than 2 weeks If my Dad catches it and he certainly will if I do hell need me around the clock assuming they dont admit him Hes 70 suffering poststroke and cant care for himself His quality of life and physical health has really taken a shit|0 Why does it matter Same virus potential disease If anyone gets the severe form of the lung disease its a rough ride to get to the other sidePoliticians make decisions for benefit and they make the sacrifices to do so Trying to damn them now is unhelpful Theyre humans as well Were lucky to have them Regardless where you are on the political spectrum|1 Well you arent wrong lol|1 Its a soft launch I am more than a little convinced that they realised they were wrong with the previous modelling and saw that peopleIn the main wanted more perceived protection and came up with this ina soft launch as it were to see how it goes before they firm things up and make it more of an order|0 Us too Im terrified about there not being enough beds in the hospital|0 No biggie its all a hoax anyway just like that damn global warming s|0 I dont want to interrupt the narrative but at the numbers were at now panic and mayhem would be much dangerous than the virus The numbers themselves dont really matter at this point Assume virus is probably the best mentality to haveQuarantine has failed it doesnt matter who the leader is they cant stop this virus as it stands The best thing people can do is take care of themselves We dont need a government telling people how to do this People need to take care of their own health and prepare and quarantine as needed|1 The problem is this virus is kicking our ass despite our best efforts modern medical advancements and knowledgeWe can easily deal with the others with what we know nowThis one is a different beast|0 No one is blaming him for everything Thats a silly and emotional overreaction|0 Jesus this is fucking huge Cant believe what Im seeing|1 Full textWe dont yet know the full ramifications of the novel coronavirus But three crucial facts have become clear in the first months of this extraordinary global event And what they add up to is not an invocation to stay calm as so many politicians around the globe are incessantly suggesting it is on the contrary the case for changing our behavior in radical waysright nowRead Youre likely to get the coronavirusThe first fact is that at least in the initial stages documented cases of COVID19 seem to increase in exponential fashion On the 23rd of January Chinas Hubei province which contains the city of Wuhan had 444 confirmed COVID19 cases A week later by the 30th of January it had 4903 cases Another week later by the 6th of February it had 22112The same story is now playing out in other countries around the world Italy had 62 identified cases of COVID19 on the 22nd of February It had 888 cases by the 29th of February and 4636 by the 6th of MarchBecause the United States has been extremely sluggish in testing patients for the coronavirus the official tally of 604 likely represents a fraction of the real caseload But even if we take this number at face value it suggests that we should prepare to have up to 10 times as many cases a week from today and up to 100 times as many cases two weeks from todayThe second fact is that this disease is deadlier than the flu to which the honestly illinformed and the wantonly irresponsible insist on comparing it Early guesstimates made before data were widely available suggested that the fatality rate for the coronavirus might wind up being about 1 percent If that guess proves true the coronavirus is 10 times as deadly as the fluBut there is reason to fear that the fatality rate could be much higher According to the World Health Organization the current case fatality ratea common measure of what portion of confirmed patients die from a particular diseasestands at 34 percent This figure could be an overstatement because mild cases of the disease are less likely to be diagnosed Or it could be an understatement because many patients have already been diagnosed with the virus but have not yet recovered and may still dieJuliette Kayyem The US isnt prepared for whats about to happenWhen the coronavirus first spread to South Korea many observers pointed to the comparatively low death rates in the country to justify undue optimism In countries with highly developed medical systems they claimed a smaller portion of patients would die But while more than half of all diagnosed patients in China have now been cured most South Korean patients are still in the throes of the disease Of the 7478 confirmed cases only 118 have recovered the low death rate may yet riseMeanwhile the news from Italy another country with a highly developed medical system has so far been shockingly bad In the affluent region of Lombardy for example there have been 7375 confirmed cases of the virus as of Sunday Of these patients 622 had recovered 366 had died and the majority were still sick Even under the highly implausible assumption that all of the stillsick make a full recovery this would suggest a case fatality rate of 5 percentsignificantly higher not lower than in ChinaThe third fact is that so far only one measure has been effective against the coronavirus extreme social distancingBefore China canceled all public gatherings asked most citizens to selfquarantine and sealed off the most heavily affected region the virus was spreading in exponential fashion Once the government imposed social distancing the number of new cases leveled off now at least according to official statistics every day brings more news of existing patients who are healed than of patients who are newly infectedRead Heres who should be avoiding crowds right nowA few other countries have taken energetic steps to increase social distancing before the epidemic reached devastating proportions In Singapore for example the government quickly canceled public events and installed medical stations to measure the body temperature of passersby while private companies handed out free hand sanitizer As a result the number of cases has grown much more slowly than in nearby countriesThese three facts imply a simple conclusion The coronavirus could spread with frightening rapidity overburdening our healthcare system and claiming lives until we adopt serious forms of social distancingThis suggests that anyone in a position of power or authority instead of downplaying the dangers of the coronavirus should ask people to stay away from public places cancel big gatherings and restrict most forms of nonessential travelRead The small stresses of keeping coronavirusfreeGiven that most forms of social distancing will be useless if sick people cannot get treatedor afford to stay away from work when they are sickthe federal government should also take some additional steps to improve public health It should take on the costs of medical treatment for the coronavirus grant paid sick leave to stricken workers promise not to deport undocumented immigrants who seek medical help and invest in a rapid expansion of ICU facilitiesThe past days suggest that this administration is unlikely to do these things well or quickly although the administration signaled on Monday that it will seek relief for hourly workers among other measures Hence the responsibility for social distancing now falls on decision makers at every level of societyDo you head a sports team Play your games in front of an empty stadiumAre you organizing a conference Postpone it until the fallDo you run a business Tell your employees to work from homeAre you the principal of a school or the president of a university Move classes online before your students get sick and infect their frail relativesAre you running a presidential campaign Cancel all rallies right nowAll of these decisions have real costs Shutting down public schools in New York City for example would deprive tens of thousands of kids of urgently needed school meals But the job of institutions and authorities is to mitigate those costs as much as humanly possible not to use them as an excuse to put the public at risk of a deadly communicable diseaseFinally the most important responsibility falls on each of us Its hard to change our own behavior while the administration and the leaders of other important institutions send the social cue that we should go on as normal But we must change our behavior anyway If you feel even a little sick for the love of your neighbor and everyones grandpa do not go to workWhen the influenza epidemic of 1918 infected a quarter of the US population killing tens of millions of people seemingly small choices made the difference between life and deathAs the disease was spreading Wilmer Krusen Philadelphias health commissioner allowed a huge parade to take place on September 28 some 200000 people marched In the following days and weeks the bodies piled up in the citys morgues By the end of the season 12000 residents had diedIn St Louis a publichealth commissioner named Max Starkloff decided to shut the city down Ignoring the objections of influential businessmen he closed the citys schools bars cinemas and sporting events Thanks to his bold and unpopular actions the per capita fatality rate in St Louis was half that of Philadelphia In total roughly 1700 people died from influenza in St LouisIn the coming days thousands of people across the country will face the choice between becoming a Wilmer Krusen or a Max StarkloffIn the moment it will seem easier to follow Krusens example For a few days while none of your peers are taking the same steps moving classes online or canceling campaign events will seem profoundly odd People are going to get angry You will be ridiculed as an extremist or an alarmist But it is still the right thing to do|0 No problem Im just hoping them DO come out with an already approved antiviral that happens to deal with Covid That would just be the best plus because it is generic no copyright issues Just make the drug and save lives Win win win Of course it is all dependent on good science but one can hope |1 Your country needs you and your sacrifices will probably never be recognized Without trucking through this crisis people will starve hospitals will go without needed supplies and essential personnel wont have gas to get to work|0 Yep My workplace breaks this rule as well|1 Importermanufacturer here this is going to create a LOT of supply chain problems all over the place We havent seen any problems yet because China typically shuts down around this time of year for LNY so everyone factors that into their production schedule But if there are widespread factory shutdowns for more than a week or two longer than planned its going to get ugly real fast|0 in canada this is just a fucking joke they let air china entering and the passenger are free without any check|1 I worked in housing in a big city People make illegal alterations all the time endangering others in the building Its not absolutely certain anyone approved this|0 Each ventilator is like gold sums it up best for me but alsoI can also assure you that when you see young people who end up intubated in the ICU pronated or worse in ECMO a machine for the worst cases which extracts the blood reoxygenates it and returns it to the body waiting for the lungs to hopefully heal all this confidence for your young age goes awayI think I prefer the solution of having dried good ship to my house versus having people deliver food thats been sitting in a grocery store and the store itself has been exposed to lots of customers in and out who arent employees and arent necessarily going to report that they were ill and went into your grocery store at least not for maybe weeks later if at allIf you can get your food to the mail then youre mostly limiting direct exposure between you and the package delivery person Its also fairly efficient to kind of have like one delivery guy driving around giving people food versus a whole bunch of individuals going to public gathering places like grocery stores It works because you can buy dry goods and they often represent fairly condensed calories Those goods will have been handled by warehouse workers but thats probably a lower risk environment than a grocery store and there will be a longer period of time between them handling it and you getting the package Goods at a grocery store are likely to have been handled by a lot more people before they get to you and the store itself will have had more visitors touching all over everything and spreading particulate all over everything|1 very interesting but South Korea has already had deaths and enormous numbers Do we move straight to that day on the chart and continue|1 Wow actually finally a good thing No interest on my government student loans dont make me hope this thing lasts longer|1 Im going to learn to make bread Eggs milk cheese and bread are a pain to store because they are bulky I figured out how to store eggs with water glass cheese with wax and milk with evaporated tins but I must make the bread myself|0 Im in the UK and was sad to see we werent featured but I understand Also like your new flair It was very helpful|1 Yep And failed Like everything he does|1 Complacent just like with Katrina|1 Agreed and we are isolating those with any symptoms which Italy did not do Im in full agreement with the UK response Closures will come but we have this added step in place first|1 And IranWe nearly got another Chinese province infected yesterday|0 This was a bit more specific than thatThere were some of those things and yeah the kids barely got sick but it was accompanied by some chest pain and fleeting chills and fever which having had Pneumonia twice recently was concerning because it reminded me of that At first it felt like a very minor bug but it barely grazed my head and upper respiratory system and went straight for my lower respiratory system Thankfully it passed by that too and now it seems to be moving on from there Its suspicious Im not convinced theres been no confirmed cases in this part of the country and I havent gone anywhere interesting But still Bit weird|0 This is great At this point it is going to be hard to contain but this will help I just have to have faith the CDC can contain One concern I have is if Mexico and Central America begin having an outbreak our southern border will flooded and hospital will be double overrun Rather you like Trump of not his border wall would be helpful in this scenario Any thoughts Something helpful will be Mexico will quickly shut down their southern border as soon as it spreads in Central AmericaAlso its sad because I would also do anything to get my child and family members care I am blessed to live somewhere with really good medical care|1 I didnt think of it but it makes senses They had SARS so they were probably more prepared for this than anybody else in the world|1 Stock market could tank 30 and it would still be overvalued It would fuck retirees and the rich Most working people would not be dramatically affected by a mild recession|0 Oh my mistake then Sarcasm is often difficult to pick up in plain text|0 At this point its probably a Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks A lot of these patients are older and are at high risk of passing from this virus and Im assuming the benefits outweigh the risks for these folks|0 Well Im asking if the 1C2C difference is obvious from the color scaleIm expecting that if you have three people next to each other on the same screen one would stand out as being visibly hotter in the color scale as in you dont make an exact reading at all you just look at the screen and say Hey that kid stands out in this image because her face is orange while all the other kids are yellow lets check her temperature and maybe send her homeFLIR the company states their experience is that if a person has a fever their skin temperature will be elevated relative to other people in the same room by 12C I would think that such a temperature difference should be easily visible on the display when both people are imaged simultaneously I just dont have anyone around to check it with|1 Obesity is a major comorbidity factor and it tends to include Chronicinflammation which reduces the lungs ability to extract oxygen from air leading to earlier onset of hypoxia and organ damage High blood pressure results in overstressed heart as it has to beat more and more to try and supply oxygen starved blood to the body Covid19 causes the lungs to struggle to extract oxygen especially during pneumonia resulting in cardiac arrest Antivirals are less effective Hospital stays for recovery roughly double Immune response tends to be delayed for all infections so bacteria coinfection in the lungs is more common resulting in sepsis Diabetes obviously just makes everything worseObesity rates by country South Korea 47 China 62 Italy 199 United Kingdom 278 United States 362So 36 of our population has double the mortality risk and will require double the recovery time in hospitals|0 Only on Reddit will you find people actually and unironically gloating over a potentially deadly infectious diseaseCould not make this shit up|0 Nice try Operation Earnest Voice|1 Yea statistics dont mean shit unless they are consistent One day doesnt mean shit really At some point also there just wont be enough providers like testing as many as there are positives Of course I have symptoms and I just tried to get a test I practice medicine and I Tavel So thats still a no and Im trying again tomorrow US is heading into a bad direction|1 what the heck are you planning to do with it Grain alcohol is what youll be likely to find the easiest and you shouldnt be using over 12 a cup a day at maximum also youll want to cut that with some water for max effectiveness rfirewater might be able to help you with booze terms|1 1 bilion of people 1 000 000 000 in the world are starving to death We know for years I think people care about others problems only if touch them directly|0 What a fucking joke|1 Yeah it makes sense but I think we could safely call this a pandemic from a purely objective viewpoint|1 Youre overreacting to covid19 Im assuming youre in an age range between 1030 since youre on reddit which means you should be fine as long as you keep your immune system strong|1 Great post I practice several Buddhist approaches and find Tibetan ohm chanting to be great to listen to for mindfulness For something less mystic and deep Ill throw on the Shire soundtrack from LOTR|1 Thank you thank you thank youThis is exactly the reminder I needed today and Ill be reading this every day|1 Just imagine if you are an university student from another city surely youll want to be with your family|1 Thats a great question its whats causing all the churn obviously There are many factors that could be causing the situation in Italy including aging population societalcultural norms etc Perhaps there is already a massive amount of undetected cases there and they arewere much closer to the peak than we realize Supposedly Seattle has had undetected transmission for the last 6 weeks Why arent hospitals in Seattle overflowing with patients|1 They have pretty much admitted without explicitly saying it that avoiding panic is more important than telling the truth The goal of the CDC and MSM at this point is to keep the public calm as long as possible In their view social panic and economic upheaval are more dangerous than the virus itself History will judge whether theyre correct|0 I feel like I just read my own thoughts Recently recovered from a HA episode that lasts at the first 3 weeks of February and had about 1 week off and now all this is coming up Not coping well|1 Okay I asked my virologist friendHe said a mutation of the transport gene is how malaria evades the effect of the same drug and an RNA virus mutates a lot faster and has a lot more individuals so it should be easy to mutate around|1 God forbid you need a 10 minute ambulance ride on top of all that|1 Interesting|1 First one One source that scares you should be enoughSecond one Later on it talks about 2550 yo And linked another article that says young people are in ICUThird one True but they do care to mention that there are people in the 20s in the mix|1 Oh really are they running the agency and did they have to take a loyalty oath to do so|1 Me too It was heart warming We are united even if far from each other together strong|1 If you think like this then I have bad news for youYou might be unintelligent|0 Wow 407 increase|1 My bet is theres zero change here in the US People wont act any differently and still wont take things seriously|1 Thanks Appreciate it I agree a WW after the pandemic is a bad idea but sending in the Expendables or something that sounds like a measured approach to the situation|1 Yes All our hospitals follow modern low inventory logistics to improve their accounting inventory turnover ratio and look more appealing to shareholders They arent prepared and wont suddenly be ready in time for this crisis That ship has sailed Our only hope is to slow the virus down so that there arent too many critical cases at once|0 Not only that but the communist party encouraged people to eat wild animals in the 70s as a way to prevent mass starvation This led to wet markets which resulted in SARS and Coronavirus|1 Look at Hong Kong and Taiwan they dont trust China|0 Well a few days ago 3500 French rallied uphttpsglobalnewscanews6660088coronavirussmurfrally to make the world record for most people dressed as Smurfs just sayin|1 You can definitely deny to use any supplies made in China|1 The growth rate started exponentially but has actually been fairly linear recently though 1700 new cases 3 days ago 1600 new cases two days ago 1700 yesterday and 2000 today isnt exponential|1 Im sorry at what point did I say I have a problem treating patients with infectious diseases I know this is what I signed up for and Im happy to do it|1 Eating any animal too close to us genetically creates this problem I worried about it with pigs as well and swine flu was pretty bad AND its going around again this year only for some reason the news isnt calling it swine flu just H1N1 now|0 Exactly socialism is so scary|0 Yeah and some of the fatality counts literally span centuries A deathsyear average deathsmonth or deaths in first 4 months would be much more comparable|0 I buy almost all of my clothing at Nordstrom and they have lost a lifetime customerGOODBYEThats 18K in revenueannually|0 Likely the only way to make people understand this is important|1 If the Chinese Communist Party is the devil it is also because the Chinese are the devil The devil is the devil chose the government not the government cheated the devils good people And why are Chinese willing to become devil Thats because the Chinese Communist Party has benefited everyone as much as possible in the past decades In turn the emerging middle class benefited from the development of the country and began to voluntarily support this government This is a communist country but conservatism is the mainstream State capitalist conservatives|0 Thats a shame maybe its heading in the right direction though My friend said no grocery pickups at Walmart for 7 days slots are are full So hopefully be are stocking up to hunker down|1 in the grand scheme of it all no it really doesnt|1 Ive stopped supporting Tims for years and glad to continue doing so|1 So whats the plan stay locked down forever All whilst there are people on earth with it then it remains a problem|0 Oh yaSo why the increased numbers everywhere if its not a big deal|1 All of a sudden those evil communist Medicare for all and universal basic income programs dont sound so bad huh|0 Anything he said could be interpreted or reported differently He has probably had cases like that and from what Ive seen he usually avoids anything that could potentially create a headline no matter how insignificant it might be|0 Or sell them at the black market for 5 times what they are worth|1 Okay maybe you are right i obviously have no proof i just cant imagine how it would NOT get there I mean India shares border with china this thing is possibly 4 times as contagious as flu combine that with atrocious state of indian rural areas Even japan and taiwan are slowly discovering that they have stealthy outbreaks that could have been brewing for weeksIt just does not compute for me|0 That is a little bit unfair to Italians I feel They dont have alligators on meth|0 I doubt it If it were a fake sick I dont think sentence pauses would happen especially 9 times out of 10 Its like u won the fucking lottery at that point|0 Yea its lying Dont let them get away with it You guys are too soft and defend incompetence|0 Fundamental to these measures is extremely proactive surveillance to immediately detect cases very rapid diagnosis and immediate case isolation rigorous tracking and quarantine of close contacts and an exceptionally high degree of population understanding and acceptance of these measuresYeah this is the reason Im concerned South Korea Singapore they followed these principles Im in the US which so far is doing the opposite of what they did Underreactive surveillance avoiding case detection as long as possible slow diagnosis when tests are given the honor system for those under selfquarantine and widespread population ignorance which will probably lead to a lot of resistance to any strong measures imposed|1 Yeah I know right OP posted this just to karma whore Just because China misrepresents their data they think it gives them the authority to lie as well|0 I was just about to say this I am shocked that so called Progressives would dismiss this idea just bc it comes from a Republican|0 Dang thats like 4500 Sign me up|1 insert bad wordBro how could you im telling|0 Man the legal and ethical questions of what to do with a modern Typhoid Mary would be interesting to say the least|1 So how many in Canada sorry Im blind|0 Literally everyone will be infected based on the details that were discovering about this thing|0 There is absolutely nothing wrong with an open marriage so long as all parties involved are on board Its not my cup of tea but its also not my place to judgeEDIT I am not saying that the couple from the article are in an open marriage I am merely responding to where the discussion was going|1 Im not seeing my country fall because you think its too much like the CCP We cant let this virus run rampant|1 Professor Legasov if you mean to suggest the Soviet State is somehow responsible for what happened then I must warn you you are treading on dangerous groundIve already trod on dangerous ground Were on dangerous ground right now because of our secrets and our lies|0 Are schools in china cancelled|0 If we can find one that works well There are no guarantees I would not be surprised if we get to the point where we have yearly versions of a vaccine much like the flu shot that have some percentage chance of being effective based on the best guesses of which strains will show up that year But thats certainly better than for some other viruses We dont have a good HIV vaccine even though its been researched for decades|1 For no to low symptom positive cases|1 Yea i remember these posts when people said to maybe start prepping because it would turn into a shitshowMaybe just accept that this is going to radically alter humanity|1 Dont worry the growing death rate will leave the streets as empty as the Italians streets are|0 A kindly reminder that sleep deprivation directly affects your immune system 1 1 httpswwwsleepfoundationorgarticlessleepdeprivationeffectimmunesystemmirrorsphysicalstress|1 Why companies dont like this is because management becomes redundant|0 50000 people die of viral pneumonia every year in the US alone Wed need more substantial data than that because general deaths from viral pneumonia will be higher than normal due to hospitals being impacted|0 A Dominos pizza a week sounds more like a punishment to me though|0 Ive been watching this thing since early January Ive tried planning for it since then but when your significant other thinks the whole thing is just the flu or it wont ever get here there isnt a whole lot to do We have 4 kids She keeps trying to take them to ballet and taekwondo Ive managed to prevent that for the last week and a half but she still wants to go tomorrow SMDH|0 Median age of death remains 80 which means the major issues with this disease remain with those 75 The Italy data also shows almost every death involved other illnesses such as heart disease Healthy adults are generally not randomly dropping dead from this or even getting very sick People in their 20s and 30s need to stay calm so they can help those actually at risk|0 The ambulance looks like a bus it has medical symbols all over it|1 Oh boy I just cracked up so hard while waiting in line to buy cookies Thank you|1 Burden of proof is on the wilder claim Youre up against a huge record of animal human transmissions So evidence please|1 I dont know if its just me but Id much rather prepare and not need to than to scramble at the last second But I guess I understand the need to keep everyone else calm|1 Brilliant a must read|1 Oh I seeI wasnt aware antibacterial electronic screen wipes existed Maybe Im not looking hard enough lol I just bought a pack of screen wipes not antibacterial so Ill just finish this pack and look into getting something similar to what you suggested According to the CDC alcohols are rapidly bactericidal rather than bacteriostatic against vegetative forms of bacteria they also are tuberculocidal fungicidal and virucidal but do not destroy bacterial spores So I guess it it does work on viruses but doesnt quite finish the job with bacteria|1 I started really paying attention roughly 10 days ago When you think about how much has changed in the past 10 days in Europe and North America it can make you feel insane To keep myself centered I just think about what the future could look like Option 1 Im totally wrong and this goes away I look silly and my friends and I all laugh about it Option 2 This has caused mild disruption and isnt worse than H1N1 Swine Flu There are 5 figure death totals but nothing that sticks out from a regular flu season Option 3 This is spreading unchecked we were right to cancel school close airports close borders and limit the spread 15 of people are dying and over 50 of people have contracted itAt the end of the day we need to take precautions to protect ourselves from option 3 Work from home if you can eat at home dont go to parties and dont go to the ER if you have mild symptoms|0 Exactly mate life is the greatest gift we have we shouldnt disregard other peoples lives|1 Flu B is the predominant strain this year and the one that wasnt adequately covered with this years vaccine|0 Your question might be a better fit for the daily discussion thread on rcoronavirus|1 DO NOT BELIEVE THIS DUDE I mean sure he noget be right but he is in no way a reliable source of information|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes US is the only western nation that does not have legally mandated paid sick leave|0 China has stated all kinds of shit but has not offered proof That includes outcomes for a lot of the drugs they gave people in attempt to cure them Latest paper on outcomes still only tracks until 11th of February|0 Thats 15k per soul Quite a bargain|1 Good post Unfortunately people will laugh it off even 4050 year olds|1 I cant I dont disagree Though chinas numbers are probably in the millions|0 That doesnt excuse the incompetence of the rest of the world|1 I feel your pain I cant grow facial hair or rather not on the right half of my face for some weird reason and I still get asked for ID at the liquor store Im 33|0 I would think that the SOP would be to dip the swab into the lysis buffer of the RNA extraction kit like that 503 in this paper not something like Hanks solution Heating the sample in 503 worked fine But I really dont know|1 People are starting to prep I KNOW they are I seen it yesterday Lots of water being bought Im also noticing alot of people getting their prescriptions filled Ive been trying to place an order from walmartcom for a few days now and keep getting an error message I dont know if its related|0 I hope those parents get it first I know that if I had a child in that school they arent attending for a while|1 They cant even quarantine an infected person properly|0 It doesnt make sense from a business perspective to make apple juice in ChinaIt actually doesnt make sense to use Canadian apples to make apple juice in Canada The cost would be too high we currently use apples from China Chile and Poland Yes your apple juice come from all socialist countriesThe shift towards a local economy requires our acceptance that our purchase power lowers to 13 to 15th of what is current Imagine spending 15000 instead of 3000 on a macbook for scale 15002500 on groceries a month instead of 500 or a night out for two costing 300500 instead of 100 That is literally what youre looking at The difference being that there would be a drastic hike in taxes as wellIts an easy notion to make and really echoey to hear but become selfreliant and only buy local would be devastating to more than 45 of all Canadians Give you an idea 50 of us are currently living paycheque to paycheque while that 50 of all taxpayers pay less than 5 of all income tax in 2017 according to statscan they literally have no money to live a more local lifestyle|0 I am coming to generally agree with this Rather than looking at CFRs we should be looking at the potential surge situations that can occur and the damage that may cause especially in communities and locales with older people like long term care facilities|1 Im still partial to the Wuhan Shake Friends and I tested out various recommended methods of nonhandshake greetings last night and decided foot taps are the best balance of formalinformal and contactno contact|1 The virus uses exponential growth to explode but the same math also helps us get rid of itThis virus also exponentially dies so if we isolate ourselves for a few weeks the virus will be eradicated|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Better to not get it unless you are a young healthy person who would rather active themselves for two weeks now to help later|1 LMAO Hug a Chinese Tourist Day Are you KIDDING|1 Well of course Why would anyone take something seriously if nothing has gone wrong|1 Court transcript couldnt have said it any better |1 The greatest depression|1 Ya they really fucked Austin with the red dot seeing as how the confirmed cases are mostly in Houston Houston where we currently have a rodeo then soon some international soccer matches to be followed by some March madness games Im not saying its intentional Im saying its convenient|0 Could you go on the social media and proclaim how much you dislike Xi and his ideals or explain why he is acting in the wrong way Could chinese media journalists do that No you would be arrested or censored Even journalists in Wuhan got arrested when they tried to tell people there was a virus in the first month of its existence So why would you expect to have seen the reasons to be against him even if there was a reason strong enough for you to be against him So unless you yourself are an expert in politics what you have observed doesnt mean shit becuase what you observe is all tainted by the governments censorship and coverups If you only ever see the good that someone has done and never the extremely vast amounts of bad of course you will think they are good|0 Everyone should Even if youre a healthy young person and couldnt potentially die from it you could still infect others who could I would avoid large crowds everywhere at this point even if there isnt many confirmed cases in that place|1 Not mine At least not yet Whole damn office was coughing today|1 Many wellness peeps I followed were posting The people who spread the fear are the same who sell the pillsThe others just pretended there was no virusQuite unsettling|0 Bruh I had the flu strong coughing problems for 4 weeks now and I still cough from time to time which means I am not fully healed and this guy has Covid19 and you are like wot Yeah sure this shit isnt over in one week lol|1 It hasnt spread much in Australia at all too warm but it will be cooler soon|1 Well if things get really weird we might get POTUS PelosiThat only happens if Trump and Pence are incapacitated at the same time If one lives after the other they appoint a new VP We arent going to see POTUS Pelosi from this|0 well i would be staying home if it wasnt for the fact that i would fall so behind in my classes|1 I do sometimes wonder what graph is the first our politicians look at in the morning The one showing infection and fatalities in their own populace or the share price charts|0 No tests no cases s|0 There is still no evidence that the actions other countries are taking will lead to any significant reduction in deaths They all admit containment is not possible and they are simply delaying meaning they do expect similar levels of infection to the UK Why do people ignore this|0 Not just with schools but in any context we have to address the issues that social distancing creates rather than avoiding doing it Governments have to quit balking at social distancing measures and solve the problems of how to do it|0 Bet if you gave them 1000 virusbucks they wouldnt have to commit as many crimes|0 Thats very poetic Thanks|1 Heres your great leader claiming 15 cases when there are 80 And his great policies backfiring gloriously again and again httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfa6c2hnorcalpatientwasadmittedfeb19thandishttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfa6c2hnorcalpatientwasadmittedfeb19thandis x200BWe have so many untracked cases and potential deaths Go back to bending over to your false orange idol|1 Yeah this pandemic is bringing out the worst in usEdit changed of to in|0 Actually Im certain some democracies will do an excellent job on par with or even better than China Its simply a matter of political will and how much faith people have in their government In the US we are already skeptical of our government in general because of culture and this specific administrations handling has been pretty weak thus far and very opaque which even further lowers faith in government I fully expect well see some countries in Europe and around the world handle this really well and very effectively institute region or Nationwide quarantine and controls but itll be because people trust their government and actually have a sense of shared purpose around this|1 This gives hope at least It would be amazing if an existing approved well understood and easy to produce drug is an effective treatment|1 Exponential spread is such a hard thing to wrap your head around But at the current rate if each person infects 2 to 3 other people we will continue to see this explosion in cases|0 Fuck thats not low lol|0 I understand they got the money back tax free and ran up their stock prices with buybacks Now that money has disappeared and they want a Socialist bailout Guess what So do people|1 if you show symptoms just stay inside if your job permits itHell no Dont go to work when you show symptoms There are exceptions but 99 of the cases do not go to work sick|0 Exclusively foe the US Wtf That is so fucking grimey|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Its bleeding over outside of the medical field too I can confirm I needed to buy some 3M replaceable filters for my mask and kinda got the third degree from the place I called I wont specify what filters what theyre for or where I got them because Im not encouraging this they wanted to know specifically what I was using them for because they had to move their stock off the floor because people were buying cases and cases at a timeNeither of the two types I needed are anywhere close to cheap and require a prebought respirator setup to even work also not exactly cheap And I live in a relatively small town in a state where there are no confirmed cases yet it astounded me|0 Why would they care about a princess cruiseship docked in Japan right now|1 Im not talking about other countries Im arguing that the poster above isnt painting an accurate picture|0 I forgot to mention I had a flu shot this year|0 I spent over 600 that I blew on my credit card Really dumb in the eyes of many but I only bought non perishable food that Id normally eat and made sure the expiration dates were well into 2021 If this all blows over then I wont need to go grocery shopping for a couple months and Ill just pay down that debt|0 Haha ok friend Good luck with God|1 and you laughed at the people who were telling you to build a basement HA who is laughing now|1 Thats not true They are only saying that because there arent enough masks to go around You are being lied to|0 Unless its anti trump then you can past whatever irrelevant article you want|0 He is in the US There is no lockdown and half the population here believes the media who claims its just a common cold developed to expand around the globe to bring down Trump Would be funny if this was the onion httpsthehillcomhomenewsmedia484506limbaughclaimscoronavirusisbeingweaponizedtobringdowntrump|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Also remember food utensils and plates at restaurants and food handling at fast food drive thru USPS FedEx and UPS handling the mail all of these people could TECHNICALLY be sick cough or sneeze then handle any of the items that you then handle shortly afterwards Over thinking it Maybe However yeah the virus can be transferred through any one of those means if the circumstances are right|0 After seeing the sacrifices our medial peope are doing to save lives I can tell you without doubts that I live in best country of the world|1 i have always thought whites were the most beautiful people in the world pick up a magazine in japan and have a look who is popular if its not whites its halfu asians routinely go under the knife to get classic white features like nose and eyelid surgery never heard of whites getting asian features via plastic surgery|1 Wouldnt you like to know weather boy|0 Whoops my bad two seconds Ill push up a fix for that|0 Thank u|1 I won tickets to a hockey game and declined them|1 My ex girlfriend lives in China and she acts like its not even a problem its a whole nonissue Furthmore that Western governments and media are inflating the issue trying to make China look bad I guess you can see why shes my ex|1 make sure our leaders arent complete idiotsOh shit Were screwed|1 The US needs to join as well|1 BREAKING Victims of the Corona Virus are rising from their graves attacking the living|0 You are overreacting You are not reading the data correctly either because you are unable or it conflicts with your bias|0 Oh my GOD David voice|1 True but in the midst of an outbreak the more you can avoid contact with other people by going out to a store for example the safer youll be|1 Come on Sure big pharma would prefer a patented treatment goldmine but saying that the US government wouldnt welcome anything that could improve this disaster is absurd Everybody is suffering here individuals corporations medical industry government etc|0 Taking out india and china is the best solution to climate change They are incapable of changing themselves for the better|1 Best case scenario is a monumental scandal over test shortages Thats not a very positive silver lining I mean how can we be entering a triage situation after only a couple hundred tests throughout the state We had over a month to prepare before cases started going international and now have had over a month to prepare since then and yet were still being told by the end of this week tests will be rolled outIts disgusting Even more so knowing that if youre a rich NBA player you can get ushered to the front of the line as a precautionary measure and be tested without even showing any symptoms|0 I ignore them|0 Lots of people sick in Florida just going about their normal lives There is no testing being done|0 Yeh the honour system is really gonna work|1 My least favorite people are the ones who go to work sick af and are somehow proud of it and think they are deserving of praiseI feel ya but in their defense people in the US at least idk about other countries can literally lose their jobs if they stay home sick for more than a few days|0 Never heard of that term before I gotta admit strong Judge Dredd vibe there lol|1 and from anyone who has touched an infected person or surface from having their fingers be in contact with nose mouth and eyes|0 Thats what they want you to think God is never a legitimate thought in a single second of their life However its a very powerful tool|1 Saw a friend going to xtd to grab shake shack Seems things are returning to normal|1 Yet here we have privileged antifa in our country who want to stifle it|1 How is it terrible news|0 Causes of death can be anything but its not a good thing to deposit them in the aisle|0 Hell yea Im already ahead of ya with my weird little youtube channel|0 NERVES OF STEELThats what makes medical people so formidable Nearly impossible to compete with|0 The Life Care Center in Kirkland WA has the 2 positive cases one critical patient and one recovering health care worker 52 other people are reporting respiratory symptoms and some are being testedhttpswwwkiro7comnewslocalreportdozenskirklandnursingfacilityreportingsymptomsthatmightsuggestcoronavirus2YXV65ZP6VBSZDVX53SUWXLYYUoutputTypeamp|1 Huh I have like 50 of those for some wood working I was doing a while ago Do those work to prevent viruses tho|1 Have been since Friday night Obviously Im sick right now but next week this whole time Im losing money to pay my bills Since I am sick even though Im separate rooms from my family work is keeping my healthy husband home and now my daughter from schoolIf we have a negative test none of this would be happening and they would know that all the places I went Friday wouldnt have been a place someone else picked it up at They are burying the numbers and that will reduce an accurate picture for resources needed Everyone should be tested if they have traveled and test negative for flu and pneumoniaEdit just got the call I will be tested this afternoon|0 Oh but they are still saying we dont have it here in spite of being a major hub and regionally surrounded so it must be true s|0 I cant agree more with you Neutered politicians have sold their souls to bankers and shareholders for our lives dont worry about downvotes|1 If they dont test for it then the patients dont test positive for it which means it doesnt actually exist rightIt sort of reminds me of a guy I knew in high school I saw him a few years later at Hardees and we sat together and talked as we ate our meals He told me he had run up a lot of credit card debt tens of thousands of dollars that he couldnt pay so he cut up his credit cards and the bills that the credit card companies sent to him as if that erased the debt It seems like the American health care system is taking his approach to credit card debt and applying it to the corona virus If we just ignore it it doesnt really exist|1 Thats why quietly and discreetly you get yourself ready No panic no outbursts just calm preparations|0 Australian GP here the reason our testing guidelines are so strict is because we are running out of the testing reagent in the lab manufactured in MilanI hate not being able to test more people and have a horrible feeling that those testing positive are just the tip of a huge iceberg We also have to conserve our personal protective equipment masks gowns etc only for those who are high risk that we are going to testSo here I am seeing patients every day not knowing if the kid who just coughed on me that I cant test has COVID19 or notIt fucking sucks|0 But are you okay with cutting off water service to those who lost their jobs due to no fault of their ownYes the reason is irrelevant to meGuy loses his job Gets laid off Unemployment runs out He cant pay for water Should he just not have access to water to drink and bathe withI would recommend charity in that situation My argument is 1 that it is not the governments job to keep people alive and 2 if you agree to pay a certain price for a service and do not pay that price you should lose that service|0 Yes schools are still in session Except for Stanford which just switched to online classes the last two weeks of their winter quarter|1 Of course but my point is that you are probably safer in less populated areas than Manhattan bc you interact with way fewer people|1 Both the state and county declared states of emergency already|0 Quarantine dissidents if infected|0 I talked about it at work and everyone called me a fatalist and implied that I was making a mountain out of a molehill My husband said I was acting nutty They can think Im crazy all they want I still bought two months of TP and a weeks worth of pasta and canned goods Im not much of a gambler and I have a mild autoimmune disease Better safe than sorry|1 This is the new Keep Calm and Carry On|1 Mate youre fucked|0 Yeah Im aware the available data has a lot of limitations but the concept is great Hopefully we get some more datasets on age based CFRs from outside China soon|1 Dr Fauci was the only one on the task force who admitted to the failure Everyone else either deflected or straight out lied when asked about lack of testing|0 Which I think is common in just about every common respiratory tract infection causing virus Influenza HRV Adeno and now seems like every CoV as well|1 But it is just that A really bad flu but a flu motherless Flu is just short for influenza and CoVID19 is a special strain of influenza just like SARS was|0 Yeh really Chinese just grew up overseas and back for hols Why would I wanna pretend to be from a country that the whole world seems to 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the term protected zone on the radio today|1 No wonder people get sick The scarf should be covering her mouth and nose not her eyes|0 From the paramedic that I know firefighters are not held in super high regard They apparently love to show up to medicalrelated emergencies and act like they know more than the paramedics|1 Also I should mention that I too have severe anxiety I really understand where your coming from|0 The thing is when it gets to community spread its gonna be so hard to identify and use testing measures like this because the symptoms are so similar to other conditions|1 Theyre not useless in fact Id say theyre very special|1 Theyre too nice to do that|1 Things could change quickly who knows Importantly this is the first time weve seen the natl guard deployed in response to this virus which is a big stepHe also talks about the possibility of the virus living on surfaces for up to 2 days which is probably news to a lot of peopleBut yeah mitigation zone might have been a better choice of words|1 If youre referring to the article about the Netherlands that was only one hospital If youre talking about overall please link the source thats terrifying|0 This is some Chernobyl shit|0 Expected to be infected was the wording|0 i was thinking something more along the line of No tv and no beer make corona something something|0 Dont worry people are starting to call it the Seattle Flu or the Silicon Valley Flu Thats where its spreading like wildfire|0 Well yeah you have 6 times the population and almost half of them are fat|1 It is not the wuhans style thoEdit I meant this is good|1 Well to be fair no one wore masks until we had SARs in Hong Kong so I imagine there will be a similar shift in the west after this Though not as pronounced|1 YesSource im British with British friends living in Europe|1 Too bad the incubation period can be 21 days or more|0 I checked on wiki ahah its 130km northeast that whole area is gorgeous|1 Even if its not covid Go back to school with pneumonia Worst doctor ever|0 There isnt a universal vaccine for the flu That why so many people dieAlso those are worldwide numbers On a planet of 7 billionThats 1100th of a percent Or 1 out of every 10000 people|0 I wish i was there I would have defended her|1 So there are a few reasons I can guess but ultimately I cant speak on others motivesPersonally I do not like being in anyones way unless I have a very valid reason an example is moving over for a traffic stop I know how frustrating it is being stuck behind someone that has no good reason to be in the passing lane so I limit my own time spent in the passing lane to as little as possibleA lot of trucking companies mainly mega carriers have their trucks limited to a maximum of 65 mph Some limit their trucks to 61 67 70 etc Some limit their cruise to 65 but if you floor it you can get up to 67 which is what they call a passing speed On four lane highwaysfreeways 2 lanes each direction a guy could be going 63 and a guy thats stuck at 65 wants to pass him This usually takes at least 20 seconds sometimes more Thats assuming hills arent involved because weight affects speed even at inclines that arent really noticeable A car doing 80 that was pretty far away wont take long to catch up to him since his speed is limited That would be a pretty common reason why some trucks take so long to passOn roads with a center lane especially if its a congested area a lot of truckers will camp the middle lane to avoid merging traffic again CHP is really onto this sort of behavior I will say it really does suck when on ramps are short and you need to both slow down and pick back up to speed 40000 lbs of cargo 15 times every 2 5 minutes Im looking at you CA99 Then you might get the guys that can go almost whatever speed they want and get sick of all these other guys clogging up the lanes An example of this is the Grapevine a pretty steep hill in Southern California It is 4 lanes one direction the entire way up trucks are restricted to the 2 right lanes Say you have a guy going up at 25 mph because of how heavy his load is Now you have a guy going 27 mph and decides that the smart option is to pull out in front of a truck going 50 mph because instead of losing maybe 2 seconds of his life he cant wait to pass the guy going 25 7 times out of 10 the 50 mph guy will hop in the 3rd lane and risk getting a ticket instead of waiting 5 minutes for the impatient guy to passOf course if those dont explain it you always get the guys that are in a state of being dangerously unaware or just want to watch the world burn|0 Adding some pieces of news here from Italy The government is taking this virus very seriously enforcing a lot of strict rules to avoid its spreading The regions with the most cases are now quarantined meaning that you mostly cant enter or exit from them Cinemas theaters schools universities and so on are closed no church ceremonies no parties People however are not as receptive Many still crowd streets bars and stuff like that especially people in their 20s The media just wants to get juicy news regardless of the consequences This resulted in news channels reporting about the quarantine before it was enforced causing hundreds of people to scatter away from those regions and possibly accelerating the spreading of the virus to the rest of the country This could also prove too much for the medical resources we have at the moment Overall the situation isnt that great here but Im confident that it will get better soon|1 Dont assault the supermarket please thats a stupide irresponsabile and useless thing to do|1 Yep theyre getting us ready for when we start seeing people get sick and die around us I think theres a possibility they are going to say theres a massive flu epidemic That way they can make us feel like we have power because theres a vaccine for the flu|0 He wasnt recovered he met discharge conditions It is not the same He was deemed well enough that he did not meet the criteria to remain in hospital He was discharged to a quarantine facility a hotel in fact where his condition worsened and he perished TranslatedLi Liangs death certificateOn March 4 Ms Mei from Qiaokou District of Wuhan reported to Peng Mei News wwwthepapercn that her husband Li Liang was 36 years old and was diagnosed with new coronary pneumonia After treatment she was treated on February 26 Fangcang Hospital was discharged from the hospital and was isolated at the designated hotel rehabilitation site On March 2 he suddenly developed symptoms and was certified dead after being sent to the hospitalThe medical certificate inferred of the death issued by the Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission provided by Ms Mei showed that Li Liangs direct cause of death was neocoronary pneumonia and the disease or condition that caused the death was sudden death of respiratory tract obstruction and respiratory failureThe discharge certificate issued by Hanyang Fangcai Hospital on February 26 showed that Li Liang was admitted to Hanyang Fangcai Hospital on February 12th After standardized treatment and expert consultation it was confirmed that the discharge criteria for patients with new coronary pneumonia were met and discharge was allowed Discharge certificate reminder please leave the community in a single room for 14 days after discharge If you are unwell please contact the person in charge of the community immediately and go to a designated hospital for treatment if necessaryMs Mei said that the rehabilitation point where Li Liang was observed in isolation after discharge was at the Vienna Hotel Hanxi Third Road Qiaokou District Wuhan She said that after staying a day or two her husband said that his mouth was dry and his stomach was a little bloated On the morning of March 2nd she had a video chat with her husband again The husband said that he didnt want to eat and had no strength in bed He was standing still and quickly hung up Ms May was so worried that she couldnt get through to her husband again In a hurry she called the front desk of the isolated hotel and the staff at the front desk told her not to worryAccording to Ms Mei Mr Li answered her video call at more than 1000 am on March 2nd At this time the doctor happened to come to the rounds and the doctor told her that Mr Li might be under stressMs Mei said that 120 later sent her husband to the nearest hospital and her husband died at 5 8 in the afternoonThe staff of the hotel named Yi Ma told the surging news that Li Liang was staying at the rehabilitation point at 437 pm on February 26 At the same time more than ten people were staying at the rehabilitation point after being discharged from the Hanyang Guobo Fangcai At present the remaining personnel have not experienced similar emergencies|0 It almost seems like that horrible cult was a blessing in disguise It lit a fire under Koreas ass to take the outbreak seriously Right now cases here have been dropping steadily for a couple days now Looks like we might get it under control soonAlso rather ironically Koreas widespread testing and resulting huge number of people testing positive made Korea look a lot worse than it is which might keep potentially infected people away now that its dying down here|0 Good one|1 Could smoker considered healthy I read that smoker is more likely to develop Pneumonia than nonsmoker|1 Im getting that feeling from all governments right now It seems to be a case of get everyone infected Try and sort it out then And the economy can go back to making them money|0 Ornstein didnt kill himself|1 That is the go to for this administration about everything Even the most trivial things|0 I agree that this sub is great for the paranoid conspiracists but your OP isnt entirely correct by calling the infections in the West slow to grow because we simply dont have a great way of finding potential virus carriers The growth in Wuhan is easily translated into data because thats where the virus started and its very densely populated They can test any person who comes to the ER with flulike symptoms and contribute that information This is not the case in the west specifically the USA How do I know I work in an ER Our current precaution for this virus is to ask a travel question and that is it If you display flu symptoms and answer yes to our registrars question of have you traveled outside of the USA in the last six months only then will the system throw a flag If you have flu symptoms but got it from a proxy a person who came from Wuhan but did not make contact in Wuhan itself you will not throw a red flag The infection is still very early in the West and infected would not be showing symptoms in most cases yet as the average is 5 days after infectionOur ER does not have access to a coronavirus test at all as far as I am aware We would need to contact outside authorities for those tests upon a red flag|1 Okay so why arent we shutting non necessary work places down Whos watching all the kids|1 Yea youre probably right Who am I kidding lmao|1 Ive just binged on the movie Contagion 12 Monkeys and the Netflix series on pandemics Fully spooked right now refreshing this subreddit and the CNN live feed like a madman every few minutes looking for updates Its honestly very entertaining to follow this stuff closely and see how everyone is reacting to it Hope we find a way to contain and cure everyone soon|1 Hmm didnt know that There are obviously significant challenges in shifting from canine biology to human biology though|1 High profile cases need to come out to raise awareness There are literally people acting like anti vaxxers about this pandemic not caring that they are doing things which may spread the virus to others who may die|0 Well thats all a bit wank Glad I didnt go now really|1 Fairly ignorant thing to say on multiple levelsJust outside the top ten in terms of annual number of tourists Famous for skiing the alps and the most liveable city jn the world And Germanys Canada WTF does that even mean Whats wrong with Canada Who even thinks like this|0 they coulda told me that when I called to get my shit refilled today|0 451 Unavailable due to legal reasonsWe recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area EEA including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation GDPR and therefore access cannot be granted at this time For any issues contact newspapercarrollspapercom or call 17127923573|0 Minority government but still has executive power A fucking disaster|0 I would venture to say that theres a lot more people that have had COVID19 that werent reported than people that died from COVID19 that havent been reported This would lower the death rate percentage as well|0 Hes a very smart hard working man He deserves to enjoy the money he has made by sacrificing years of his life to pursue something more for his family and to provide generational wealth Look at how much of his own money he has put in to solving global issues I understand your point but he deserves to enjoy his life as well he has clearly earned it It isnt up to Bill Gates to save the lives of all the homeless you should blame the government for that|1 So What will Reddits reaction to this be Must be conflicting|0 Wrong There are lots of mild cases of this virus About 20 have severe disease and the most common case fatality rate cited is 25 though a case series of 99 sequential patients fro Wuhan showed mortality of 11|0 If you cant trust three officials familiar with the matter when it comes to claims published by NBC News that make Trump look bad who the hell can you trust|0 Wow thats excellent Officers here would love to have more training At least the ones I know in my town|1 I just realized that DPRK is completely surrounded by countries with cases of Covid19 3 of which have high number of cases|1 In America good luck They shoot back|1 Very cool|1 You subconsciously want to make everybody sick so you touch your face s|0 I work for a local county It was interesting talking to the officals in the Health Department getting told it was nothing and just a flu I ran though everyone just randomly chatting about it About 2 weeks before it came out I started talking serious to everyone and they just blew me off I am all prepared and the few people I work with and my family who listens to me are all prepped x200BOn another note before Wuhan went on lockdown I started talking to my wife She would say oh if things get that bad just let me die Now were at this point with it in the USA shes my biggest supporter and damn happy we stocked up over the last 3ish months I was able to get my friends that have health issues to stock up too I feel good about it now Sorta vindacated about it honestly The sad part is I am watching our poor local health department behind and our top down staff not knowing what the hell to do about it|0 What are you talking about Where are you in the US In Florida where I am there is never any wait for any doctors or any specialists never had any problem most Ive ever had to wait for anything was two days|1 Sadly I feel like he wont get anything|0 But imagine a zombie movie in which you do not need to get bitscratched to get infected and it gives you pneumonia|0 If Im in an angry state of mind either in store or on the phone I try to apologize to whomever Im talking to that while I am upset and maybe loud I know it it not their fault and Im mad at the higher higher ups|0 Well the paper makes a huge deal out of 35 progressing I agree it is so few but the same pattern is seen elsewhere|1 Already taking vitamin D Im too much of a homebody not to |1 Yeah our government is being very British Looks like things are going to change today though They cant keep a lid on it|1 Libertarian dream Amirite|1 Well if he was at the conference thing in Boston with two other people who have since been confirmed my bet is that either Tennessee exported a problem to Boston or Massachusetts has a problem they arent aware of the scope of I think the article said there were only 150 people there so just for that one meeting now 3150 are confirmed to have it providing the Tennessee case i connected which is what they were getting at|0 Same for the UK already past 500 cases and everything is carrying on as normal Big events still happening daily schools open nobody cares Just people bleating that the flu is worse and laughing about it China quarantined at 500 cases with a billion population and the UK at 60m pop doesnt care And then still there are a good dozen countries worse than the UK still in cases per capita and so few are doing anything Why A western country is on its knees already|0 And doctors are no longer limited to their state with their license They can now cross state borders to assist where needed|0 Someone talking real sense here finally The wouldnt be enacting wartime measures over 23k deaths you damn right about that|0 Play stardew valley its the best|1 UK shores is too close for me doesnt matter if its South coast or just down the road we all travel these daysSounds like youve got a sensible outlook anyway My neighbor is exintelligence thats all I can find out so hell be getting a knock from me if the SHTF|0 Thank you|1 Yes hopefully just this But it seems the virus can invade the CNS and lie dormant then cause reinfection httpsjournalslwwcomneurotodayonlineblogbreakingnewspagespostaspxPostID908If it can hopefully its a rare thing Other viruses can do this only in a very small of cases of that virus|1 Sorry I was confused about the GXP2V How good is this news then Is it premature to draw any actual conclusions|1 Well that seals the deal fuck that Im not going to college classes for the rest of the semester Ill stagger in with a heavy respirator on for my exams thats it|0 Reddit countries dont act until too late We have to do somethingVietnam close schools for 2 months and quarantine a village of 10kReddit why such extreme methods they must be hiding somethingChoose a narrative and stick with it pls punks|0 2k that we know of the estimate is 20k to 30k people in the US have it as we speak theres just no test and theyre pretty much not testing anyone|1 If the economy continues to tank cash will be worthless|0 He thinks he is still but the economy is the one thing he ties to his entire being and its tanking So in his infantile brain he may actually recognize on some level that his base may start doubting him Yeah I know Im having high expectations for his self awareness based on what weve seen|0 The western media constructs a false narrative of Dr Li as a whistleblower If he was going to expose this coverup he would had informed journalists outside of China He could had posted anonymously here on Reddit to tell the world as how western media make it out to be Why post on his private WeChat group They twisted facts to paint a false whistleblower narrative20190101 a viral pneumonia patient with an unknown cause was hospitalized at Jinyintan Hospital This patient was the earliest known case of 2019nCoV infections through later discovery The patient had not had any exposure to Huanan Seafood Market20191227 Dr Zhang Jixian ICU doctor at Hubei Hospital of Integrated Traditional Chinese and Western Medicine files report to Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on 4 pneumonia patients with an unknown cause Investigation opens shortly20191228 three more patients arrives to the hospital all of whom were related to Huanan Seafood Market Now 7 presumptive cases20191230 Dr Li posts about mysterious pneumonia cases on private WeChat group20191231 Chinese authorities reports to the WHO of mysterious pneumonia cases in Wuhan China with unknown cause|0 Are the same people freaking out about this also the same people that fell to their knees and screamed up at the sky when Trump was elected|0 Pretty bad kind of attack if you use it on your own people first and then give everyone else two months warning Youd really have to be very confident they were too stupid to do anything about it|0 This is a worry for us here in Canada Our population is mostly clustered close the US border and there is so much traffic crossing everyday going both ways that if things get bad in the US because of mismanagement which seems more and more likely we are going to get alot of blowback from that|0 You go LOL|1 Better take it up on yourself to protect at this Health care facilities or show cdc guidance to their boss httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovinfectioncontrolcontrolrecommendationshtmlCDCAArefValhttps3A2F2Fwwwcdcgov2Fcoronavirus2F2019ncov2Fhcp2Finfectioncontrolhtml|1 I keep seeing a lot of hate for Dr Fauci but actually the guy is wellrespected and if anything I credit him for making Trump finally taking this seriously|0 Hes dead Local officials forced hospital staff to hook him up to the machine because they said its too inconvenient for him to die now|0 Imagine if you were in one of those school districts that wants to charge parents 80 for every day their child misses school|0 Amazon does in fact sell eggs and bacon but only in major cities I used to work for them|1 SARS turned out fine Humanity has survived literally every single outbreak and pandemic so far i dont see why the coronavirus would be any different|1 Saw something that people can test negative and then test positive hours later Not sure about the accuracy of tests or if the viral load needs to be large enough to get a positive result|1 Yes but you COUlD get healthcare Also the US government pays millions hundreds of millions Billions into Medicaid and Medicare Thats free healthcare for the sick children people with disabilities and old people Take away the government now no one gets free healthcareIn the Uk and many countries around the world literally everyone gets free healthcare Take away the government no more healthcare for anyone|1 Thank you for sharing I think this is important and I think you are genuine Your screen name has you come off as a troll To any reading my comment she has had an account that started 2 years ago and originally was on reddit for relationship advice Just so you know this isnt a brand new account Thank you for sharing again The USA appears to be taking it seriously but I feel like were just looking around with our eyes open right now and not actually moving anywhere Take care|1 Are you serious really Even the guy who shared this says that it looks like a movie set People are wearing summer clothes Even the ones walking around has short sleeves How can people be that dumb to believe those kind of videos or why are they so eager to believe that this is the truth I dont think Ill ever understand them|1 Ty boo|1 Sounds like an Upper Chest Infection or Bronchitis I get the same symptoms once a year same treatment COVID19 is much worse than the symptoms you described|0 Comments here are just awful|0 This is the messed up part of American society No reverence for sick people Big suck it up attitude and people just walk around like big germ factories with no regard and we dont shame them for doing it|0 No it doesnt The first deaths come from the most vulnerable You find that surprising and proof its not affecting regular people|0 No Im pretty sure Canada is right The virus is kept away by signalling tolerance and antiracism emails s|1 True but this was an SNF not assisted living or regular nursing home|1 I totally agree with you on this now is absolutely not the time for pointing fingers or assigning no offloading responsibility Now is the time for all nations in the world to do our best to share information and resources We are all stuck on this petri dish together Also apparently this fellow is based in Australia If that matters But like I said this needs to be a truly global approach|1 It may not seem like a big deal but it sets a precedent for other major events as well as giving peoplebusinesses an idea as to how Corona can affect our daily lives Weve already seen how its affected the economy in the matter of a few months but now its spreading into entertainment and public events Trying to dismiss the event like it wasnt going to be special in the first place seems a bit short sighted as the context of the event specifically isnt as important as the context for why the event was cancelled|1 Just gets pulled and taken down in a heart beat need more adoption towards decentralized video platforms so news and info can be shared without threat of deletion Just my 2cents|1 Oh yeah Its a statistic Id love to see Its just also scary to think about how inelastic the capacity is|1 Ive been to the hospital with viral fever though and staff certainly treated it seriously|1 Well I suppose thats a fine start|1 Yeah let me just stay home and not work while bills add up Its not possible for most of the US to just stay home|1 Okbut I have a feeling it would be too far of a drive for you Im not in KingPierceSnohomish 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othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fkck8zInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Singapore is now sicker than most Chinese provincesLet me correct that for you Singapore is now better reporting than most Chinese provinces|1 They have the similar experience in handling contagious diseases in 2003 SARS For this time they were proactive to have strict quarantines inspections and an instant lockdown of China especially Taiwan Their people have had high awareness of epidemic since 2003 Panic buying in these countries started in the late of January craving for surgical masks and loo paper|0 Agreed got a staph infection from an emergency surgery They sent me home and a few days later had green goo leaking from the surgical area Went back staph infection which I could only have gotten from the hospital|0 Idiot with a capital I|0 Yes its likely large gatherings such as weddings will be banned anyway Besides many will cancelWhat do you have to lose|0 I saw a video of him the other day The man is brilliant|1 how did you even do this amazing stuff|1 Again the US government has not taken this seriously They didnt start addressing the above issues until a month ago The outsourced production isnt used to it is currently So the issues I outlined still stand For medical staff alone they have shared we are short 300 million pieces of PPE That type of production here or anywhere doesnt happen over nightAm I happy about any of this No but in the interim it makes sense Thos is also why there jas been a push for social distancing Do i think what theyve done is enough amd thwir messages are damaging yes But what ive outline above is why they are doing itPeople forget that the role of government is to maintain social order even in the best of times|1 Do we not care about asymptomatic transmissions which account for a large chunk of infected cases|0 This People are slowly getting the picture but in general I dont think the general population is nearly scared as they should be Fear leads to panic which isnt good However this is potentially going to turn into something we are truly not ready for and I dont think people are getting it |0 True but Im not searching for vacations or Italy Im reading coronavirus news stories that mention Italy so if thats why its suggesting its still a bit off target for me|1 Thank you sub for taking it seriously early on Helped me to understand and get honest data on the state of affairs As an American Was able to prepare and remain vigilant thus far Also Thank you for excepting my snarkiness In psychology People often revert to sarcasmhumoretc when dealing with fear duress Imma blame that for how I be Stay safe yall Ps One final quote Ive been very fond of during these challenging times That brings me hope Yes cdc|1 You guys flame Trump for getting the gender wrong yet will post on here all day making armchair speculation and woefully incorrect statistics as fact|0 There are effective vaccines for some coronavirus infections that we include in the flu shot|1 Hes old and miracles have stopped happenning simultaneously as internet and cell phones have become common |0 Whys it that when someone calls out the wrongdoings of a nation they are racist Thats such an easy way to get out a conversation that might be uncomfortable|0 Yes i am not positivley sure and I dont want to spread disinformation but I always assumed that the widely circulating picture of about 5 vials packed in a box was the equivalent of several hundred kits like they are all together in the vial just drops of liquid mixed together|1 Yeah like the guy in the doctors waiting room last week open mouth coughing without a care in the world I was the only one there with a proper mask and glasses on but the others were SOL Idiots like him are literally everywhere and people with certain conditions still have to go to their doctors appointments pick up refills and new meds at the pharmacy|1 Again we have the issue that you have difficulty grasping things Im not making predictions Im explaining to you the concerns over the dynamics of the outbreak and the purpose of delaying strong lockdown measures If the virus is going to burn through populations then its the potential outbreaks which will be far worse than what northern Italy is experiencing now which you want to avoid Such early outbreaks rather could be largely mitigated by other preventative measures people being encouraged to partake in and have a steady stream of infection which builds up some degree of herd immunity which will reduce the exponential rate later on when it burns through the populationTry and think of this in terms of that either it can be dealt with by1 strong lock down measures when theres a sudden initial large outbreak which you can mitigate with heavy lockdown measures but either way you roughly see give and take a few thousand deaths a similar very small proportion of population infected2 Its going to burn through much of the population even after those initial outbreaksIf its 1 then all along this was less than just flu and could be easily dealt with If its 2 then the early opportunities to mitigate without heavy lockdowns and instead build up herd immunity will decrease rate it burns through populationWhat Witty and Vallance seem to be going for is essentially the Better Safe than Sorry approach of taking some on the chin initially but then being better prepared for how bad this virus could potentially be|1 Theyre relaying so much on the government to be all knowing and totally truthful about all this Even the bad stuff they just wont hear it|0 Yup They have 5 minute drive through testing Leave it to SK to always make it like we live in the previous century|1 Its 37 C in thailand today Virus has no chance to spread|0 Costcutting in Hospitals and public services defined by economic theory has been implemented in the entire west since the 90s We are absolutely fucked if it gets here|0 There are so many factors that are different in China compared to most Western countries Pollution is a huge factor here The fact that 300 million people in China smoke including over half of men is a huge factor here The population density being greater than almost every country in the world is a huge factor here In reality the cases outside of China are the best way to determine how dangerous this virus really is So far the signs are encouraging|1 heUntil CCP takes it from you due to unforeseen crisis or force majure|0 He doesnt have any Some people tested positive after testing negative my understanding is that it is believed to have been down to a false negative rather than being reinfected|0 Garlic low sodium eating complex carbs instead of simple sugars and regularly doing cardiovascular exercise|0 No we dont Reddit subs are niche echo chambers that people seek out because they have shared interests There are too many hate subs on this site that let the minority feed into their biases|0 Rip aviation and travel industry workers rip small airlines that were already struggling rip contract negotiations in larger airlines that are now making significant cutbacks in services worldwide|0 In NYC theyre testing you for everything else to rule out the virus and then rather than test they give you a quarantine note A janitor at a big middle school in the has been sick for a week tested negative for everything and they still didnt test him Like what about all the people who also work at the school Theyre just left in the dark and well just have to see how bad the damage is in a two weeks|0 Wait I thought it was supposed to describe a zero sum scenario where your own gain is based on someone elses loss by design|1 Went for a walk in the park Saw a kid with a N95 mask in the playground He had bare hands and no eye protection|0 I started a new job midway through the year so I got prorated I dont replenish til June but next year I get 3 weeks and Ill have more vacation time than the vast majority of my countrymen|0 I think the poop is less dangerous than just riding SFMTA the underground subwaybuses all around town I lived in SF from 20092019 and grew up in the North Bay and those are packed like sardines every dayLike hold your backpack above your head or take it off and put it between your legs while standing packed The worst vector vehicles for a highly contagious disease|0 just do what the toyko marathon did several days ago only allow the elite runners participate|1 shes completely serious she argued a little with me and then blocked me completely delusional|0 the current president and his administration make a point to refer to it as the foreign virus or chinese coronavirus it is somewhat subtle but very clear what they are trying to say|1 Its like saying We cannot proove with 100 certainty that the virus was not created by pixies and aliens working in unison so dismissing it out of hand is simply wrongThere is no reason whatsoever why anybody would create a virus like this and release it|1 tens of hundredsSo like thousands|1 Concerning numbers everywhere at this point No chance this is contained|0 LOL if ANYONE believes the Times of Israel is going to have accurate reporting on Iran he or she is an ABSOLUTE DUMBASS|0 That way their virus droplets can trickle down on the poor|0 Yes the only ones who know the truth are the scientists at Wuhan They know the genome of the virus samples they were studying They know where they came from They know if they modified them They know if the virus contracted by the general population is that same virus strain or notThe interesting thing to note is all the western data sources seem to be very keen to act as though the December cases at the beginning of the outbreak were never documented even though that first paper authored by the Chinese scientists who studied those patients in Wuhan hospital carefully documented each and every patient from the date of onset of symptoms and their patient zero became symptomatic on Dec 1st followed by the next 3 on Dec 10th then 2 more on Dec 15 This shows China was not hiding those first known patients so why is the rest of the world including the WHO excluding them from their data|1 I was trying to say it nicer and more elegantly But yes yes he is|1 this comment is lovely|1 Nobody demonizes Gates that I know ofPeople who actively evade taxes and exploit the poor ie trump are the baddies Gates has literally said he and people in his bracket need to pay more in taxes|0 Yeah considering the current administration has a screw you well do what we want kinda attitude to the press which I dont mind considering the press hates them anyway I was kinda expecting them to do a travel ban already or to go draconian in their containment measures Im wondering what the hesitation is|0 Damn So the schoolcollege principle and all teachers had to download the game on thier PC and create their own avatar I can totally picture that Finally they get to know how important games can be|1 Yes|1 Yes|1 lmao|1 Itll be a pretty long spring break thats for sure|1 Thats true And then theyre stuck in the middle of nowhere away from medical care|1 This is exactly the line of thinking I had I wasnt that worried when it was in China The second Italy had growing cases around midFeb was when I realized it was just a matter of time before it was going to hit North America The suspense was killing me and now it just feels like watching a car crash in slow motion over the course of several days weeks and potentially months|0 Agree with you|1 Yeah Ive been riding the subway in Toronto the whole time right up til last Friday Fully expecting symptoms to kick in any day now|1 China welded doors shut and god knows what else they also had once city not a country|1 Arent they the reason we won the Revolutionary War|0 My wife has a scheduled c section for our 3rd child in 3 weeks She is very concerned and nervous and I feel so helpless It just sucks|0 They want mass casualties IMO Depopulation I dont think they started it but theyre taking advantage Can even blame the economic crash on it|0 I dont actually understand how you think any of this is an endorsement of the CPC Are you having a hard time keeping up Its almost comical at this point|1 Just random guesses about the infection rateGender differences in tobacco smoking ratio of daily smokerhttpsreadoecdilibraryorgeconomicsoecdfactbook20152016adultpopulationsmokingdailybygenderfactbook2015graph189enpage1 China M 490 F 20 Korea M 362 F 43 Japan M 322 F 82Anecdotally I can confirm two things for these three countries Female smoking rate is definitely underreported in every selfreportingbased statistics Male smoking rate is still higher than female smoking rate about 23xSince there are good gender differences in tobacco smoking in those country there should be some gender gaps in the confirmed case counts if smoking is dramatically reducing the infection rateConfirmed cases by gender China on Feb 11httpweeklychinacdccnenarticleide53946e2c6c441e99a9bfea8db1a8f51 M 22981 F 21691 514 486 Korea on Mar 3 M 1810 F 3002 376 624 Japan on Mar 4httpstoyokeizainetspvisualtkocovid19 M 145 F 96 602 398The Japanese data seems a bit small Both Chinese and Japanese data dont support the low infection rate among the smokers Korean data support the low infection rate among the smokers However majority of Korean cases are represented by one cult cluster in a specific church with two superspreading events and the cult is known for its gender separation in church This explains the gender gap hence no support for low infection rate among the smokersThen why This is my guess Early samples are usually focused on the severe end of the spectrum for whatever reasons my guess for this is the early testing criteria that requires a sign of pneumonia Severe side are usually represented by old people and thats almost synonym for many underlying diseases There is only one event I know of that could make the vast majority of people quit smoking Receiving a diagnosis of severe diseases such as lung cancer|0 This is the major problem too many young healthy people with little to no symptoms or mild symptoms spreading it to the elderly etc|0 Capitalism doesnt work unless you let natural selection happen Perhaps whoever replaces them will know how to actually run a business|1 I am so angry at authorities We now see the true face of people in power I really respect you for not loosing your shit because of the way you were treated I definitely wouldI doubt any policeman or military personnel would tolerate being stuck with their dead grandparents body for 3 days straight It is worse than any punishment even kim jung un can think off Seriously wtfEdit crap i realised its 4 days That is even more insane|0 I think a lot of people would like to hear some first hand perspective|1 Im not going full blown spend 1000 to prepare for this but I did go out and buy at least 3 weeks worth of food and supplies in case of a quarantine I think I spent a grand total of about 160 I wasnt planning on spending 160 extra dollars this month but Id rather have it and not need it than be in a mad rush at the store with 90 of the rest of the populationAll stocked up on rice soups gatorade propel powder ramen fruit cups pop tarts tuna protein bars water and dog food for the pupamong a handful of various other food items I also bought an economy pack of coldflu meds from CostcoSome of these things are good to have anyway in case of you knowseasonal flu or a bad cold Most of the things last at least a year or 2 on the shelf|0 Scream louder cuz I didnt hear you|0 I almost downvoted you Glad I read the whole thing Lol|1 If it does attack the testis and leaves a significant amount of men sterile I call bioweapon from the RothschildRockefeller crowd No way thats a coincidence|0 My Facebook feed is full of ONLY misinformed people commenting on things they shouldnt be and memes Its exhausting|0 Gods Imagine being stuck in that ship What a nightmare I feel so bad for the passengers|0 Thanks|1 Hospital employee here Our hospital as well as other area hospitals are facing a shortage of N95 respirators due to high demand N95 use is being prioritized among ICUs and other areas where infection risk is higher|0 12 confirmed Hospitals are refusing to test people unless theyve actually been to Wuhan And theyre reporting just one super spreader can spark a much wider outbreakI dont think they can justify shutting down airports altogether yet But certainly they can ban all China traffic with mandatory quarantines for anybody who has been in the entire countrycitizens included|1 I am in similar situation My take is this The trouble with estimating disruptions to travel and supply chain is that you have to estimate the response function of the local authorities My ballpark estimate is that when a city with 1 million people has 10100 known cases the public health authorities will use the same logic I apply below to expect there are 100010000 actual cases Thats about the threshold above which the disease will explode and overwhelm local hospital capacity which is typically in the 01 range What matters are the available beds w oxygen or ICU capability per resident So at that point cities have to take action to start cutting infection rates in order to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed Singapore and Hong Kong reacted faster than that and are apparently keeping the outbreak under control from now Wuhan was far too slow and paid the price Cities in Korea and Italy seem to be responding at about this levelMore analysis with US as an example US Hospitals have accumulated suspicious severe pneumonia ICU cases and are prioritizing those for testing now that tests are becoming generally available Patient has generally been ill 23 weeks before getting the test result per various accounts of the progression of the disease It takes several days to show illness symptoms as well So patient was likely infected 34 weeks before getting the test The relative occurrence of ICUlevel pneumonia in COVID infections is about 5 1 in 20 of total infections per various Chinese studies look for data from Korea and Italy next Therefore for each reported case there were likely 20 cases infected 34 weeks ago Disease spreads with a generationtogeneration serial interval of 6 days WHO estimate So since the 20 infections 34 weeks ago there are now 4 new generations of infected cases In each generation the number of newly infected is a multiple of the previously infected leading to exponential growth The multiplier is known in epidemiology as R R has been estimated between 2 and 5 depending on relative influence of a few superspreaders and local protective measures Im using 3 as my baseline Therefore for each ICUlevel detected case assume there were 20 infected people 4 generations ago and each generation multiplies by 3 so total cases currently could be 2034 1600 The folks in Washington State have been getting similar but smaller numbers Note that weve only just begun proper testing in the US so known case numbers are going to rise quickly this week and next Risk to individuals within a given community is proportional to number of daily close contacts andor infected objects and the fraction of local population that is already infected and not taking precautions Students and workers in highlysocial jobs particularly in medical care are at higher risk of infection than general population Trouble with the kids is they dont get unusually sick so theyre going to fly under the radar and contribute unwittingly to community spreadPS Plague Inc might have helped save the world here because there are my of us out here who got a gutfeel for basic epidemiology from playing that game The models in it arent that bad and knowing how a highly communicable disease like COVID can spread has made us far more alert than the general public|0 First of all 350 USD is about 500 CAD Ive spent 1500 CAD And products in general are way more money in Canada even after doing exchange rate We just pay moreI have several pets that all have several months of food and litter as well as several family members I bought a ton of meat for a large chest freezer and other types of frozen meals on top of some cases of various types of tomatoes fruit beans soup dried beans rice soup stock and pasta I also got some powdered products before they were out of stock like whole milk cream sour cream and eggs Not cheap to get powdered stuff It was important to buy things we actually use which I mostly did just in higher amounts|1 is that all you care about|1 Did anyone else watch the House committee hearing todayRepublicans Trump did a great job acting quickly to restrict air travel from affected regions Democrats Trump has done the worst job ever Holy fuck The officials overseeing this debacle are right in front of you and both parties are using their time to fucking grandstand instead of asking them what congress can do to help Fucking children Like everything else this has become politicized to see which party can somehow capitalize on failures or score points with any successes while the American people are the damn pawns in the middle Put down your petty bickering and be effective for once Very few of the representatives asked relevant questions both sides had a few while the rest just took the time to point fingers Ridiculous|1 water theft by china no less|0 I mean it makes more sense to spread massive wealth out over time then he can do way more good People should be looking at all the other billionaires that have done fuck all|1 It being airborne doesnt mean you just EMIT the virus out of yourself like a fucking cropduster aircraft Unless he coughed on literally every physical surface and human he was in contact with I doubt Canada is fucked|0 Implying the viewer has intelligence|1 Im sorry to hear of your situation and hope that things go as well as possible for you Presumably you have a consultant or specialist nurse for management of your HIV If so then given your existing relationship with that team and their knowledge of your condition they may be the best people to contact for advice If things become bad and you are concerned they are at risk of becoming life threatening call 999 Your GP via telephone is also a good shout|1 Insanity I thought the Swiss were famous for being rational |0 Yeah we all know they will just use their murder vans Hanging was so 80s|0 Exactly no one here thinks otherwise Grandstanding to no one|0 Because its true|1 Yes because it may be true they are being proactive instead of reactive something our government should be doing a little more of However that doesnt change the fact it is medically unproven so its still rumourhearsay or whatever you want to call it until proven|1 Yeah sign up Meg Ryan for the starring role as the viral researcher trying to talk sense into the world governments|1 This is gonna be worse than China Theyre gonna be running out of beds|0 I think its more efficient if the nurse makes rounds to monitor for covid symptoms while the teacher continues teaching Temps can still be done en mass before class actually starts But having someone whose entire job is to watch out for dry coughs flu symptoms should go a long way in relieving our fear of sending kids to school Let the teachers teach They arent trained properly to be medical personnel|0 A lot of the cases also traced to Ischgl in Austria and a conference in Germany Last I checked it was also the best guess that the virus entered Italy through a cluster in Germany|1 Youre the reason theres a 13 interest rate on credit cards|1 CDC recommendations are here httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcprespiratorsstrategycrisisalternatestrategieshtmlMore generally speaking the 95 in the N95 means the mask filters 95 of particulate matter 25 from the air N99 means it filters 99 of particulate matter 25 N99 is thus probably better at least from a particulate filtering efficiency standpoint however that should be balanced against the amount of moisture it traps how long youre wearing it ease of breathing etc But its inaccurate to say that only N95 works For you healthcare workers if you cant find N95 you might try looking for N99 could still be some availableedit Also dont mean to come off snippy just want to be sure that people have accurate info My mom was an RN charge nurse for Stanfords PICU You guys are angels and I wish you all the best for the days to come|1 so they only want to contain the already exisiting clusters but wont prevent community spread I doubt it will help much|1 I am coming home after work USA construction admin and I am going to sew some masks There is a stigma most people at work laugh at me when I do wear one so nothing new there Spent an hour on the phone last night with a friend talking about masks Even if it helps by training me not to touch my face and only catches 50 of particles it has to be better than nothing Once I have the pattern down I believe Ill even make some cute ones and then move on to manly designs such as camo and local football team colors Either way my guys in our welding shop only have a dozen or so masks left to help them safely perform their work duties so Im hoping they will use some|1 my b this aint 1989 anymore lol|0 The one person to die in Europe is an 80 year Chinese tourist who lived in Hubei Hardly a barometer for the rest of Europe Also it doesnt take longer to die than to recover dont know where you got that information from|0 No a little town in west Texas Surrounding towns already put school from home in place and providing food for those students who need it and our dumb district is just sitting on its hands hoping parents are honest in recent travels and self quarantine |1 The danish chief epidemiologist agreed with his swedish counter part that it was wrong to close the danish border|0 Id love to be able to buy a box of fresh potatoes from the farmers instead of markets|1 Lol maybe I could start selling my own Coronavirus prevention productsMe Just spread this cow manure over your entire body 2x a day Them Wow thatll make me immune to CoronavirusMe Not exactly But itll keep everyone at least 10 feet away from you so|1 Hey guys Heres why I posted the above link I HATE misinformation but Im also a microbiologist who happens to be a conspiracy theory junkieIve been following this virus since its infancy in December It pinged my radar because of the initial outbreak cluster and I immediately knew that we werent dealing with a normal viral pneumoniaCases of 2019nCoV are largely underreported because there are too many people and not enough test kits Furthermore there are many people dying before they can even be tested hence the drastically low death rate PCR test kits are high in demand and require a lab to interpret so the healthcare workers are saving them for the living patientsI am severely disappointed with the Chinese Government for the way they have handled the situation especially in respect to the millions of human lives at risk in China and across the globe The coverup of information has allowed the virus to spread rapidly especially considering the asymptomatic shedding of the virusAll of the highly circulated published studies and models are erring on the line of conservativeness but if you do some digging specifically on BioRxiv youll find over 300 newly published articles of study that have yet to be accepted by the scientific community Please see link below R 30BioRxivhttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200123916395v2full In conclusion there is a severe underreporting in infections as well as deaths which leads myself and a great deal of other likeminded individuals to believe those numbers I initially posted are actually more accurate Whether or not the company stumbled across them or it was a coding glitch who can say Its our job to read between the lines and pay attention to the red flagsThis virus will get worse mark my words and we wont know how bad it really is until its over The mitigation of that depends on our governments working together to stop a pandemic viral outbreak|0 yeah that def is a factor although i think the primary factor is overburdened systems|1 Well your immune system is really complex and there are lots of things that happen before your body makes antibody tcells and memory cells Its possible people also dont have a suitable kind of cells for a virus to bind to so it cant replicate very fastIts often the case that you get exposed to a new virus and never notice especially when young and healthy|1 And the city is also most prepared to spread it based on population density|1 It almost seems to be a badge of honour to say you worked despite being sick or something I wish my job was so flexible as to allow working from home but Im a teacher I can usually get away with 1 or 2 sick days but after that classes fall behind or employer starts demanding doctors notes I have definitely taken a sick day felt better gone to work then felt worse because I cant get the rest I need to really get better that and having to chase two young kids around at home Im pretty happy to be off on maternity leave right now Ill be honest|1 Yes Ive been trying to sit here and keep it together haha He still works but respects my distance Washes his hands etc He has asthma He is careful but doesnt seem to be freaking out to an extent like I amI calmed myself down a bit I need to take my mind off this|1 I put it into Twitter search and all the results were where search engine was joining those words from different sentences not as one continous string No photos of packed bars or mentioning covid|0 If China werent trying to hide the scale of the epidemic then why not release the number of deaths from pneumonia respiratory distress over the past 4 months so the world can see how theyve grown along with nCovBecause theyre using that as an excuse to hide the scope of the problem|0 Im in Missouri still wondering about the 60 being monitored herethis lack of testing is ridiculous|0 The sensationalism is enough to do the economic damage The virus is really terrible for vulnerable people but the whole world is going to feel the pain economically|0 According to the CDChttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpfaqhtml evidence so far suggests that the incubation period for SARSCoV2 can range from 214 days Some of the viruses we are most familiar with like influenza and the common cold have incubation periodshttpwwwvirologyws20141008theincubationperiodofaviralinfection of only a few 13 days However others can be many more days like chickenpox 1317 days and Hepatitis A 1540 days or even years like HIV 110 years The incubation period of a virus depends on where the virus replicates does it have to travel beyond the initial site of infection in order to replicate and how much viral load extent of immune response damage to host tissues etc is needed for symptoms to be observed Coronaviruses appear to attempt to evade the innate immune response by altering the production of different cytokineshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2292640 involved in recruiting immune cells but scientists are still working to understand the specific pathogenesis of SARSCoV2|1 it would mean the sharks suddenly could roam free on land and it will be really deadlyYou obviously never took a loan from the bank|1 I think the reaction youre getting here has to do with their having been 15 or 30 good sourcesthreads supporting ease of asymptomatic transmission that came out starting more than six weeks ago This is a Reddit thread not a publication Anecdotes from nurses in Wuhan and Italy along with early data from China that is now being published more formally here Just following the contact tracing in Hong Kong and Singapore it was obvious that people were able to infect a lot of people before they themselves came down with it|1 I also have the feeling its a pretty shitty thing to judge someone without knowing them or their circumstancesI wouldnt call you a shitty person though I hope you and the people you care about are doing well I understand everyone is really tense over the whole situation|1 Diagnosed yes but with what tests|1 Protocols my friend Im certain each hospital is right now setting up a series of steps to take to treat people according to their symptoms Protocols can be taught quickly to doctors and nurses Like if you observe symptom A do this If you observe symptom B do that This will enable staff who dont specialize in respiratory infections to know what to do for patients Also if ALL the nurse and doctors are present you have a great many people with more experience andor knowledge to help with directing care|1 In late January the first confirmed American case of the coronavirus had landed in her area Critical questions needed answers Had the man infected anyone else Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreadingAs luck would have it Dr Chu had a way to monitor the region For months as part of a research project into the flu she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound regionTo repurpose the tests for monitoring the coronavirus they would need the support of state and federal officials But nearly everywhere Dr Chu turned officials repeatedly rejected the idea interviews and emails show even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China where the infection beganBy Feb 25 Dr Chu and her colleagues could not bear to wait any longer They began performing coronavirus tests without government approvalThe failure to tap into the flu study detailed here for the first time was just one in a series of missed chances by the federal government to ensure more widespread testing during the early days of the outbreak when containment would have been easier Instead local officials across the country were left to work in the dark as the crisis grew undetected and exponentiallyhttpswwwnytimescom20200310uscoronavirustestingdelayshtmlPresident Donald Trumps failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic didnt begin with the administrations inability to send out the millions of test kits experts say are needed to tackle the crisis It didnt start with Trumps bungled messaging downplaying the crisis even as its worsenedIt began in April 2018 more than a year and a half before the SARSCoV2 virus and the disease it causes Covid19 sickened enough people in China that authorities realized they were dealing with a new diseaseThe Trump administration with John Bolton newly at the helm of the White House National Security Council began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018httpswwwvoxcompolicyandpolitics202031421177509coronavirustrumpcovid19pandemicresponse|0 I still actively use an AOL email address for all my junk mail|1 Yep Not every troll is one but their message spreads and gets repeated by actual people like herpes|1 The decision has never been final but Italian journalists are the worst and so the major Italian newspapers are writing headlines like ALL SCHOOLS CLOSED if the govt decides so in the afternoon|0 On r army I think someone said a dependent got sick in korea|0 Just to be clear the people in this sub are the most hysterical people in America right now|1 The ironic part is that the trump base is the highest at risk|0 Well if thats the case then they should evacuate the ship rather than guarantee further spread via the fomites|1 Somehow I can see this biting china in the ass in someway|0 I dont see it getting that bad|0 People pretended like this was a total surprise event it wasnt From a mile away I could tell go to cash and be patient|1 Probably because most of these people have an outstanding water bill in the hundreds of dollars and it would cost them much much more to turn onso right now allowing the water on at all is a nice gesture|1 THE US Army is in germany I expect president trump to be confiscating German ventilators very very soon Thank goodness for President Trump|1 Ive read the articleThe crucial line I think is this subsequently tested positive againmy emphasis on tested If they arent producing antibodies then an antibody test would be negativeTheres very little to suggest that the poor patient was properly cured before release|1 I remember reading an article a while back saying that coronavirus is too small for n95 to be super effective but they can intercept droplets that carry the virus|1 More like ignorant Theres a lot of stuff they cover up Almost nobody hears about it|1 Thats not new either The shopping centre is too busy Have you not seen the current footage of the empty streets and only a couple of people inside shops People in Wuhan and HK are on lockdown|0 It almost feels like hes admitted he isnt the authority here Maybe he needs to put his foot down and trying to do whats recommended and act like he was elected to exercise his own discretion But the funny thing here is that the media is complacent in this ignorance as well Notice how they collectively are avoiding this line of questioning Have they been directed not to go there Or are they actually autonomous robots with bio suits acting as people|1 I know I welcome any good news But there hasnt been too much of it|1 WHATWhats the trick|0 Its been mentioned in other threads but there is a workaround to this like other states have done For example in Seattle they sent kids home with backpacks and suitcases full of food and have designated drop off sites where kids can pick up food In LA they created 40 family centers so those families with high need still have food and childcare The government definitely needs to come up with a similar plan in place before they shut down schools so I hope theyre thinking about this right now|1 Just curious do you have inner dialogue Like can you hear your own voice in your head|1 ETA Also look at South Korea Their reported death rate is only around 5 and as good as they are at documenting cases obviously theyre like everyone else in the sense that theyre probably still missing the vast majority of them So expect the death rate there to go down even furtherDont want to sound as a doomer but Im very worried about that 2 week death lag stuffDo you happen to have any info on how the patients are doing|0 Theres no long term studies yet to see the long term effects of this disease|0 Smallpox killed 500 million in its last 100 years of existence when the population was much lower than it is now|0 Hot sick singles in your area want to bang|0 I was referring more to the possibility of taking it long term as prophylaxis but fair enough|1 YO WTF THIS SHIT ALREADY SPREAD THROUGH ALL THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIESMAY GOD BE WITH YALL AMERICA WILL PRAY FOR YOU|0 If Italian hookers join in Im moving to Italy next week I hope corona doesnt spread like std right|1 Appalling from govt|0 the flu also is a much more common virus iirc 20 of the USA population catches the flu yearly this is some kind of stupid mental gymnastics|0 Its nothing bro Its just the flu bro Its just a bit worse than the flu bro We are here Its worse than the flu bro cough cough cough|0 This is my new favorite sub Thank you|1 People in my hood are normally out and about No one outside just cars passing by assume they are going shopping|0 Nobody will be leaving the house soon haha|1 So Ive been super lazy this last week and now youve just given me justification thanks|1 Completely TRUE|1 He stopped travel a while back last night he just added EU to the list|0 Im still not a big fan of a total lockdown if that happens in the country I live in the Netherlands for the people that are curious The reason why Im not a big fan of a total lockdown is because of the fact that I dont want to be isolated and also that the chance that I die from the virus is so good as 0 anyway I want to life my life to the fullest and I cant do that if Im being locked into my own house obviously|0 Back in early December I read an article about pneumonia of unknown cause in China I read this to my fianc and he said fuck its going to be another SARS He studied virology and micro biology for years now even growing things in petri dishes So when he said that I started following it closely I live in WA when the first case came in Everett back in January I bought about 100 dollars worth of supplies Nobody cared about it at all no one was sanitizing their hands no one was talking about it except a few and life was usual When it popped back up again I bought another 100 dollars worth of supplies People thought I was crazy when I showed them my car filled with stuff My friends are saying Im worrying too much Now that its at over 100 cases confirmed 3 in my county 2 in my city and over 16 deaths people cant get their hands on sanitizer lysol toilet paper cleaners or masks I honestly wish I could go back to just being a crazy prepper Even if your fianc doesnt take it seriously you should be prepared for the two of you when it inevitably hits your city|1 FYI respirators do not have filters for outward breathing pressure so it wont protect you from themEdit you are not protected from a sick person if THEY wear a respirator That is not what theyre designed for|0 I do agree with you I feel that the root of this the driver fuel is inconsistent information lack of transparency compounded by health financial and food insecurities|0 I think a tribe with different blood types is more equipped to take care of its sick compared to a tribe with the same bloodtype cause the latter would have higher odds of ending up all or mostly sick during an epidemicThe A and Bs provide some defense but they can only be around if the Os take care of em when theyre sick So over time perhaps tribes that take care of their sick gain an immunological defense over tribes that just abandon their sick|0 I could stay home and my job would be waiting for me when I get back but I need money so I am working right now Work in IT services at a university and classes are shut down and they are moving to online delivery in the next few days so its mostly a ghost town here except for staff lol|1 good luck i hope you and your grandma will be safe|1 Stupid people deserve to suffer|0 Overreaction is exactly what will happen later when something happens if you underreact now|0 I dont think so the person days will include those that havent died|1 Maybe Im one of the idiots here but wouldnt the beaches and pools be one of the safer methods of spending time Open air and everyone keeps a decent radius from the next group Of all the things that people do this seems to be on the side of being harmless|1 Perfect|1 Nah just gotta get that extreme zoonosis going for nonhuman infection|0 It cant happen here were not some shithole nation like ItalyI finally went in to work today and interacting with engineers who almost universally accept the available data on this situation made me feel slightly betterNot about the outlook but about my sanity The past week I have felt like Roddy Piper in that movie They Live where he has the glasses that let him see reality No one believes him until he finally straight up whips someones ass and puts them on their faceExcept instead of glasses I have reports from doctors and scientists|0 Sound science Its certainly not less so youre at least technically correct|1 Always remember that people are feeling driven for some risk aversion is the main reason they are browsing this sub while others are optimistic and refuse to give in at the idea of radical changes in their way of life So my advice would be first acknowledge that Youre right we have had several virusscare already and that the flu seems to have a higher death rate in some cases After that you should have open ears to what your main point is going to be Id choose to explain why a ultra high contagion rate and a 15 need of ICU intervention can cause a higher than normal mortality rate through a saturated ICU infrastructure You can mention the calls for help of Italian doctors and the triage they are facing every day|0 This is great If anyone could share good online resources for mindfulness meditation or improving mental health that would be awesome I am trying to compile a list of online resources to share with people|1 No need to be a dick about it The guy went out to buy extra food and the GF was supposed to get dogfood GF crapped out and now everybody has regrets Pretty normal human failing story|0 Good Let it spreadLet the stocks tumble like they would have eventually and let the world see how much of a liar and idiot Trump isHis administration is responsible for being as deceitful as any authoritarian country out thereThey fail to protect Americans and the best thing for America is to see that truth|1 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 After MERS there was a new naming convention avoiding locations in the name|0 The highest risk pool have Medicare But seriously anyone can get it and it will vary in its intensity Yesterday there was an article about two healthcare workers one a nurse and the other a gatroenterologist both 29 ended up as patients in their own hospital on ventilators They survived but still got mad sick|0 On his personal page rather than the Sheriffs Office page Chitwood said the community is suffering from a lack of information about the virus in our areaSince Im the chief law enforcement official in Volusia County he wrote I think its my responsibility to provide more transparency than has been provided so farChitwood decided to post the information after his trip to Walmart Friday night where he spent an hour and 20 minutes trying to find what he needed in a store with no water toilet paper or cleaning supplies He was also bombarded with nearly a dozen residents asking about coronavirus and what the sheriffs office was doingOne of the things that struck me is the magnitude of uncertainty Chitwood said about his Walmart experience Even dish detergent was sold outAnd after Friday nights county press conference regarding coronavirus He was unhappy with the way the FDOH answered questions about current cases and people being monitoredIm sorry if feelings are hurt but people need information Chitwood said The better informed we are the better we are at dealing with problemsChitwood challenged authorities to be more forthcoming with informationIf not then I think something has to change at the Department of Health he wroteChitwood also urged the community to listen to the Center for Diseases Control take common sense precautions and stop hoarding|0 I think part of the problem is those who are young and not afraid are taking advantage of the short lines lack of crowds no traffic plenty of parking|0 Ah sorry I think its because there are no repercussions with spouting on Twitter whereas voting for a Commie would ultimately mean thered be less money to spend on avocadoes and wine and gin|0 This reads like a formatting error|0 Did not stop the France or UK asymptomatic carriers from infecting 5 and 7 people respectively|1 I am constantly having to urge the Boomers in my family to stay safe I dont know whats going on but its like they are collectively losing their minds and think they could do what ever the hell they want My stepmother is still going to the store daily and shes in quite bad health I cant get her to stop|0 You need to understand that hospitals are already overwhelmed And one thing that the public CAN do that they are being told NOT to do is to wear masksI agree that misleading the public to keep people from using masks will lead to more overwhelmed hospital facilities Its better to just tell people that the system cant keep up with demand at this point and thats why they dont want the public to order masksMisinforming the public about the benefits of wearing masks to avoid perception of our leaders failure to prepare is the same kind of shortterm thinking that led to the US not having ramped up production of some critical supplies like masks in the first place Misinformation about ways to prevent spread is not a good thing that leads to more spreadIts clear from the ICC guidelines that masks even if they were to serve no other purpose keep people from touching their mouths and noses c Avoidance of touching your face This is nearly impossible as we unconsciously touch our faces constantly The main benefit of wearing a surgical mask could be that the mask acts as a physical barrier to prevent touching the mouth or nosehttpsemcritorgibccCOVID19|0 Called this back in Jan and everyone said I was crazy|0 Not an expert by any means but Im guessing youre talking about Medicare and no If anything it just means those taxes would be put into other healthcare avenues But like I said Im not an expert nor a psychic but I figured id give my 2 cents|1 Yes Im well aware Theyre also helping my loved ones out so Ill take itIf you dont want anyone to collect data on you I hope you dont have a phone|1 I believe this was announced last week and so far I havent heard of any follow up None of my coworkers or neighbors are taking advantage of this Also havent heard of usage from the news It may be another policy that is lip service only|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here 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get you guys infected Even setting up examination booths next to the runways is safer than this|0 We know this We know that the reagent used was not the right one etc etc Get the correct ones and start testing for free with less strict requirements|1 Flu has an R0 how many people you spread it to of 14 Covid19 is estimated at 23 One study I saw said that when isolating families they generally found household members had a 10 of being positive if someone else in the house wasThat being said 2003 SARS was far less contagious but I read about a super spreading event where a woman with explosive diarrhea gave it to like 30 people from her terrible dumpEdit A virusladen aerosol plume emanating from a SARS patient with diarrhea was implicated in possibly hundreds of cases at the Amoy Gardens housing complex in 2003|1 Look up the Supremacy Clause my dude|1 Seriously are they going to send FBI to arrest Cuomo over this|0 Theres zero evidence of where it came from period because CCP selfserving statements arent evidenceWrong againThere is evidence in that they found the virus at the market located exactly where the animal vectors wereThere is evidence in the fact the first infected worked at or lived near the marketThere is evidence in the fact that we have seen other very similar infections come from very similar conditions in MERS and SARSThere is evidence in the fact that it is genetically very similar to other betacoronaviruses from known animal vectorsHmm It would seem that all of the evidence supports it coming from the wetmarketAnd zero evidence it came from the BSL4 lab I think it came from the labI dont give a fuck what you think because nothing you are saying is supported by any facts Any I might as well ask my dog what his theory is because it would have just as much evidence as your theory has None|1 If this is true and the infection rates per the suspected R0 are true then that would mean the number of actually infections would be higher in fact much higher right Wouldnt we see death tolls climbing everywhere from undiagnosed corona The fact that it could be more rampant might actually be a great sign for the survivability and overall impact no Lets take it several steps further If lets say a million people or even 10 million have been exposed since everyone seems to doubt Chinas numbersLets then still speculate that the R0 is on the higher side that would mean that it has already been worldwide for months and there have likely been tens or hundreds of thousands of undiagnosed cases correct Since exceptionally high mortality from the normal flupneumonia hasnt been reported in china or SE asia since novemberdecember wouldnt any reasonable statistician look at these predictions and estimations as a positive thingEdit If its 50 times worse than we expect with a mortality rate that is also much higher and the disease has been around for over two months now why are other countries not seeing those hypes of numbers|1 Wow Its not a zombie apocalypse Infected people will be sick and dying not traveling to farms looking for food because they are starving They will die from the illness long before they starve|0 The point is to delay widespread infection that will inundate the health infrastructure Just because its inevitable doesnt mean we want to have 20000 serious cases all at once|0 Fair enough Im not the best at wording things so I didnt want to come off like I was trying to promote something The main ingredient is L Theanine along with something else called Ashwagandha Extract|1 I would not suggest you use herbal meds either Misapplying herbs may lead to worse results especially when without experts guidance But most doctors apparently are lack of experience of using such medicine|0 They already reduced hours Im assuming they will only allow a certain amount of customers in per hour My dumb ass went to Safeway an hour after the announcement today to get last minute produce for my family and the babysitters family It was a madhouse|0 Very truePeople wont start to act until mass alert notifications are blasted out|1 I live in Delaware and every single state that borders us has found cases yet we have magically escaped it Yeah right We have tons of people who commute to infected areas every day Then again weve only done 10 tests so far and monitoring an extra 23 Its only a matter of time before they get off their asses and test the right person|0 Its posts like this that make me want to have a break from social media or quit it for goodIf you want to wrap yourself in bubble wrap and scream end of the world go right ahead but dont expect me to join you All this hysteria is NOT helping anyone|0 Sars Wars A New PopeFeaturing Wuhan Solo|0 Thats my point lol why trust a redditor claiming they know better than all the governmental organizations around the world over the agencies actually dealing with this beyond spending fifteen hours a day on rcoronavirus|1 I think he is having way too much fun now everyday stays up sleeps in dirty laundry drawing stuff I can just imagine how smelly his room is |1 good for you and just 4 hours for the whole process was awesomein US you have to wait for days for your testing result|1 Even if it wasnt originally a bioweapon there are a lot people out there who will use it like one|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhvrbjchinaboughtthewesttimethewestsquandereditfkesfsa was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Agreed Close the border|1 Yep Might not change treatment plan for him But could be critical information if he wasnt isolated from the potential exposure day not just 1st day of symptoms|1 BullshitLast week I went to my doctor with coughing shortness of breath and body aches I was denied the test bc I didnt have a fever|0 And dont forget they have nukes|1 What about 5lbs of rice and 40oz of beans Oh and I bought one extra bag of pet food and made sure my prescriptions were filled Phew I must be in a serious panic|0 Well unfortunately it doesnt remove all risk factors Im sure but I want to be sure Im realistic that as a 30yearold its still very possible that what Im experiencing could get worse Im located in Chicago IL I havent heard any such reports from those around me but what I see online this is consistent with possible COVID or at least a respiratory issue I wish ya well in recovery and health mate|1 There was a study of communal bar snacks I read once I think the conclusion was youd be safer licking a toilet seat|1 You can wash veggies and fruits you can boilfry carbs and you can make sure the mean is thoroughly cookedAlso you can wash your hands and maybe try and get food deliveredI think its way way safer|1 Thank you Your article was extremely well written and informative|1 Free market is always faster and better than government buearacracy|1 Coalition with another party thats rather common in many countries httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPartysystem|1 Why does the coronavirus have to be in the front page If the article is providing info on how to prevent the sickness I dont really care to see it everyday|0 Everyone in my country is thanking China for what they are doing And when I tell them what China actually have did in the beginning of the outbreak they call me conspiracy theorist I dont trust China anymore And I beleive they are trying to push mass surveillance worldwide and therefore their dystopian credit system|0 No theyre not They are simply trusting the media and the advice they have been given The doom sayers are certainly over hyping some reports As always the truth is somewhere in the middleCollectively we need to not perform ad hominem attacks we need to respond with information and links based on medical studies financial reports and trusted news sources|1 30 ish folks have 6 weeks of fight in themlol what 02 of under 40 dies doomer what kind of reasoning is this lmao|1 After deductible No thanks|1 They had plenty of hospital bedsThis is not true No one has enough beds to deal with this pandemic|0 Thank you|1 WHERES THE VACCINE STRING HUH HUHWHERE THE FUCK IS THE VACCINE|0 I work in IT and I treat everyone as equally disgusting I wash my hands every time after I touch something that isnt my own Yes I am washing my hands upwards of 10 times a day but it keeps me from their nasty germs|0 Well I hopefully know enough for my family Anything you may have learnt is a bonus Ciao|1 Im a republican that chose poorly during the last presidential election His handling of this virus has sealed the deal for me Come November I dont care who hes running against I will vote democrat just to get him out of office|0 Hospitals need N95 masks and those protection clothes My friends really want to buy more masks but I cant find too many here and the shipping company I use cant ship a lot of stuff these days due to flights being canceled Food is never a problem in fact Ive heard people complained that theyve gained weight Thank you so much for your kind thought|1 The markets cant see itIf it cant be controlled to produce a profit then free market innovation is blind to its potential Jeff Vail|1 struggle cuddles lol Stop resisting the struggle cuddle|0 You are in the wrong because you didnt understand your audience They are Chinas allies Bud Do you not understand where their money comes from From all of their sectors Tencent makes half their movies Apple and Google are Chinese subsidiaries Go down the list and up through their politicians Its like warning Beijing|0 Ours stopped letting kids in with a cough early on Redirected us to urgent care Anyway nonemergency care can be done over the phone for now|1 you can do that when you limit every freedom in the world and apply communist level control and wanton disregard for human life and it still didnt stop them from being backwards savages eating literally anything they can find dont fool yourself your country is more disgusting than india you have caused 5 out of 6 of the last pandemics from your affinity of eating lizards wolves pangolins tigers bats rats and gutter oil|0 Nah its more like 5 The governmenthospitals will prioritise the young with the vastly limited ventilator supply letting everyone severely affected above 50 dieWithout all the elderly drawing social resources filling hospitals ect the government and NHS will be well of in the long run compared to every other country having economic shutdown for 1218 months while cases slowly tick over until a vaccine can be made remember we still dont know if a vaccine will even be possibleTheres many many ways this could go wrong which is why everyone is calling this strategy a massive gamble|0 Dont be obtuse You claimed a most of the confirmed cases in Canada are from the US which is false There are maybe a handful out of the hundreds there If the Canadian government decides to ban travel from the US then fine But otherwise Im keeping my plans unless I move into a high risk category eg exposure to a confirmed case or showing symptoms myself Dont lecture me on minimizing the significanceyoure just as bigoted as the Trumptards areBy the way my fiance is a Canadian citizen and were also going to help her parents move Like I said there are other reasons besides just tasting food|1 The communal plate sharing in how food is distributed among family members could explain the rapid family cluster phenomenon in ChinaI will do a short primer People in China eat with chopsticks and generally have a bowl of rice in front of each person while the meat vegetable fish dishes are communal in a family meal and each family member has a chopsticks to grab the food to their own personal rice bowlThe saliva from personal chopsticks routinely touches the communal plates during the mealThis is also how some people will hold businesscasualget together meals since it is already common in a family settingIt might be the reason Hep B is so prevalent in the first placethere are other reasons and this virus definitely transmit with saliva|1 This is legally dubious at best completely fantastical and not applicable to the situation at worst The best bet is focusing on regional concentration Much like china did with field hospitals its going to be a case of funneling resources into temporary holding pens once the first line hospitals reach capacity Since all patients suffer from the same virus individual isolation will not be necessary The ventilator issues will be hard however we havent even got into the stockpile yet That will be released as needed|1 Money they already fucked the UK with brexit now this happens Ive herd it all over think of the economy our livelihoods boo hoo Its fucking greed no one needs money to live you need friends family The animals wont starve cus theyve no money they find food This just shows how twisted and disconnected people are from reality Humans are the most savvy beings on this planet surviving is what weve evolved to do AS A GROUP But people today are to disconnected Money over life for most|0 Yup My mom says she is one too certainly have seen her eat a french fry she dropped on the parking lot groundHe may fear germs that doesnt mean he understands how they work|0 Florida people buy beer and wash their hair outside in the hurricane for fun|1 x200BHealth Minister Patty Hajdu recommended last Wednesday that Canadians stock up with enough supplies for a week or so in case they or a family member contract the coronavirus and have to remain in selfisolation for 14 daysHrm a week of food when you need 14 days of food sure makes sense|1 Original Cakerie in London I dont think cake baking with hundreds of random ppl is essential food atm|1 Yes Flushing Hospital Medical Center|1 Also you know as a shareholder you dont get any insider information right You get everything that is publicly released Im not saying these resignations were because of Coronavirus by the way To me old the Iger one was notable in any way|1 When youre asleep is that enough to get it Scary|0 Hate to be the bearer of bad news but before people who apparently had recovered tested positive later which may not necessarily be the case|1 pay close attention to the officers right hand he is clearly wrapping something around her neck a wire or fishing lineedit slow down the playback speed for a better look|1 AFAIK theyre fairly confident it came from bats or pangolins but I wonder if this disease could eventually become a vector in common animals like birds cats dogs etc|1 That is a great idea maybe have a go at creating one You can use my Google spreadsheet as a template if you likehttpsdocsgooglecomspreadsheetsd1IJOl8VofclCUnr0khGk6K1iGWJyUsSfV88QNHOhAEeditgid0|1 Chlorine etc Good info in that link |1 To be transparent Im not mad or happy about this response Just passing along what should be expected|0 People are in a state of denial or maybe theyre in F it modeAt work CFO encouraged working from home if you can Our departments senior management announced that our dept is required to continue to come to work and that our main concern is guest safety Our dept doesnt deal with guests but some people work in close proximity of guest areas Our dept is to continue business as usual Guest safety We are one of the largest departments at my company Someone in the office can be sick or I could be a carrier and not being showing symptoms Wtf I thought it was insane to hear some of the comments from the management team about how we can work on processing efficiencies and our projects were behind on People in the office are freaked I think management is ludacris Im required to continue going into work and thats a risk I could already be infected and not know my family and whoever Im contact with could be in the same boat Im washing my hands and being super cautious but Im also breathing the same air as my coworkers and I could be continually walking through peoples salvia droplets mouth breathers in the office Businesses are concerned about profits and not the health of all humans Some businesses are thinking stay closed for 2 weeks others not at all but are taking precaution Congrats you have gloves on half your staff I feel so much safer now Im thinking this is going to go on for months and that flu season is going to continue to worsen If businesses would be responsible and close their doors entirely people would wake up to the seriousness of this pandemic which would help alleviate the spread but this is something I dont think America leaders are willing to do|1 I mean Americans meme this shit but plenty of people in US eat deer fowl reptiles and other small game|0 Because everything about the US Healthcare system is a money scheme we get charged hundreds to our insurance companies for single hand towels that is how the money gets funneled to the doctors|1 I am already stocked up but I went to take my friend to stock up It was extremely packed and tons of people were coughing and sneezing It is necessary for me to wear one since it was so crowded|1 This is actually great news this can instantly increase the ventilators available by a multiple of 4|1 Her being sick and passing it on is only one issueWhat if theres no one to take care of her What if they lock down CA and she cant come home for months too many variables|0 Did you really expect better After all the signs in the years before|1 Socialism is sounding better and better all of the time|1 Im just stating that1 there should have been a unanimous statement about the virus not downplaying as just a flu2 the blame as Ive written starts from the top and goes all the way down there is too much people still around doing what they want disregarding everyone else3 they did right to test people and they are doing fine now as medically possible However first cases were treated kinda poorly containmentwise first cases went to the ER several times and sent home so they could infect family colleagues and such This happened in Codogno and the surrounding area There should have been immediate response to this and testing should have started then not a week later when it was too late4 they are designing areas as red zones however controls are very low and tickets are laughable like 100 euros if you escape a red zone Like a parking ticket There should be strict controls and limitations or this wont pass|1 Ive just seen Trumps comments about the ship on the BBC news He thinks you should all stay there because if people are bought ashore it will put the numbers up He doesnt agree with everyone around him now theres a shock that people can come ashore if its managed properly I think hes more worried about being reelected than being open with people and admitting that the US government has woefully under prepared for this even though theyve had e few weeks to get a plan in placeWhat would the passengers rather do Ive seen that someone aboard needs cancer treatment It is a terrible situation to be in|0 Cope harder Not my fault Cambodia is third world|1 Yes for a certain amount of time but the droplets with the virus lands on the cloth of the mask gets soaked in and with time the mask gets saturated and the risk to inhale infectous particles rises againMy answer was a little bit generelizing They protect but only relatively short term this is why health care workers wear them and change them after every patient because as soon as the particle enters the mask the protection is basically gone|1 Long time lurker but had to join to respond Yes I noticed today Very strange I was sure he was going to rip our PM a new one|1 Worse than Wuhan in what sense|0 My only expertise on this subject is from high school history but if I remember correctly banks shut down during the Great Depression meaning that not only did people lose massive amounts of money in stocks but many also lost their savings|0 Whats not reasonable is to panic and rush out to buy a years worth of toilet paper and bottled waterWe are in for a 6 week quarantine Its reasonable to buy 2 months worth of supplies Stop survivalshaming people|0 There are 2 things to note An equation is smooth if you SMOOTH IT OUT Without having data at EVERY SINGLE interval the estimate if you study Newtonian math are a bunch of very small linear approximation that would make a quadratic equation look smooth but realistically the data point we got from China looks like a linear growth which makes sense given that the confirmed cases are almost certainly bottlenecked by lab testing Second is that the models we have copies real life That is to say this is math imitate life Now if there is a model that depicts the spread of illness and you say well it fits so it must be wrong that defeats the purpose of the said model as it is made to predicts the said illness|0 If she took steroids and got better its pretty likely that she didnt have Coronavirus Steroids have been found to make matters a lot worse with Coronavirus and many people that took steroids before we really knew what was going on ended up needing ICU care and assisted breathing|1 The beauty of communism This outbreak is going to be so much worse here since we cant wont do shit like shut down cities to contain the virus|0 if former Corona patients are cured from the sickness within a month of contracting the disease then i would say its not panic worthy|1 Damn so Im really not going to school for 3 weeksShould I quit my part time job|0 Super Spreaders is what i think they call them like that guy in Wuhan who infected like 14 doctors|1 I mean i work in a lab and we cant operate outside of our building Theres like 2030 employees maybe less i work early am before the rest of the building has to be to work so im uncertain how many actuallly work there beyond the 5 front office people and my team of 12 and i can 100 guarantee ill be working through the pandemic and if by some miracle we get sent home we wont be paid Thats the kind of place i work for RIP my bills|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Id be interested to see the racial makeup of everyone on board and then the severity of illness among them Im pretty sure cdc is using these cruise ship situations as a means of study as well|1 Full of lazy morons who do nothing like Chuck Pelosi and Nadler Who have been in congress for multiple decades and have done less than Trump in 3 years The guy is not perfect but he is doing an amazing job as president|1 Toilet paper for a respiratory illness eh|0 I dont think the modssub are involved with the CCP I just think CCP shills are patrolling Reddit and using bots to bansuspend users that criticize the CCP by report spamming their comment histories Most of us probably loosely break Reddit rules all the time and if you had an army of bots you could get just about anyone bannedsuspended|0 Eh I dont wanna die before Cyberpunk comes out so Im gonna stick to millions P|1 There is a local source in the mothership article If you bother to read that is httpswwwcnacomtwnewsfirstnews202002165006aspx|0 No until 25 March these latest measures in theory and until April 3rd for the less restrictive measures put in place the other dayhttpswwwrepubblicaitpolitica20200311newscoronavirusconteitaliagovernomisure250988471refRHPPTPBLI250988111C12P1S112T1Obviously if infections continue to rise 2 weeks from now when we can see more clearly the effect of the policies than that will change But the hope is to gradually reopen the country after a few weeks of quarantine|1 Yeah now they have|1 Panic sets in and people react irrational The lineups at grocery stores and empty shelves have occurred everywhere in the US and Canada Things will return to normal shortly as far as inventory goes Limiting numbers of customers in shops may be necessary though People will just have to get used to it|0 also interested|1 What Im confused about is the reactions we are getting on this sub Some hot topics Ill click on and read comments like oh good the of cases is decreasing or people just like to shit of China Oh the CCPlike get your facts straight theyre doing the best they can etc etc Then I read comments such as I just shit myself this really is bad and things along that line Im going to go with its just bad overall Im still curious as to what happened to Fang Bin and Chen Qiushi|0 Ive been making coffee at home its pretty easy and just as good|1 Socialism is rearing its ugly head Couldnt they just use the Detroit river if theyre too lazy to work s|0 businessinsidercom news source may not unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats ironic Im older than shit but my much younger partner of more than a decade has intimated that some paper products for his extended family would be a way of showing them how much I love him|1 Not sure why youre being down voted He likely is It does t undermine his reporting He is in the epicentre|0 Im in a rural area and its a major problem for low income families many of them Hispanic and Native American For now districts have also providing paper packets for parents to pick up along with two meals a day|0 Not helping much when they are mostly single party ruling There is never need their gov to improve when they win every election anyway|1 Very true|1 Arent u scared of leaving your child orphaned That would be horrible thought to me|0 There is zero chance we will have and distribute a vaccine before the delayed panic hits and in the mean while hiding your head in the sand is going to greatly increase the spread|0 im confused didnt everyone just contribute the high CFR in China on especially males smoking a lot|0 FYI the Spanish flu was spread via train travel and international ship travel which was happening at extremely high rates because of troops travelling to and from war zones Even without planes there was high mobility in the population at that time httpswwwpcgccaencultureclmhchsmbcresdocinformationbackgrounderespagnolespanish|0 My SO has been working from home for 3 weeks I have been off that past 2 weeks and notified my superiors that Ill be off until at least the 2nd week of April Im a musician in 2 very popular Chicago restaurants As of a half hour ago 330 CDT our Gov Pritzger has ordered all restaurantsbars closed until at least the end of the monthWhen I informed my superiors of my leave of absence they said no problem and that they understood Since they were continuing to work however one even happy to be taking my shifts for the extra money they thought I was being overreactive Theyre not thinking that anymoreSO and I also started stocking up 3 weeks ago and were good for about 212 3 months None of my friends that I know of have done any stocking at all|1 The panic buying people arent the problem The problem is the supermarkets sitting back and letting it happenToday Sainsburys announced a 3item policy Thatll help bring us back to normalityEdit 3 of each item|1 I thought Trump was best friends with the Taliban now He spent 15 minutes talking about them in one of his first coronavirus speeches instead of ya know the coronavirus|1 Im glad to see that the public is being recruited to help sure beats that careful they might panic approach Community and general public needs to be on board to scale the responseLots of simple steps that everyone can take IMO Starts with observing good hygiene But for what its worth heres some other simple steps Im finding helpful suggest others share theirs as well1 Supplies Ensure you have a few weeks of emergency supplies always sensible IMO no just related to the virus2 Caring for family Think about what might happen if someone in your house got ill and had to be cared for at home Thats means things like a few extra cleaning products a few masks for them a good location in the house and ensuring other parts of your home are well ventilated 3 Workjob Make contingency plans to work at home or find out ways to go about your life that involve fewer or zero crowds If your work doesnt permit that then put aside some savings for a work absence again always a good idea not virus dependent4 Neighborhood plans Put some thoughts into your community and neighbors what helpful things might you do together in the event of an emergency Think it through dont even need to discuss but prepare to bring it up with them if needed|1 At this point theres not enough teachers in many of the schools to stay open Also those taking exams are going to struggle to get as much support when working at home|1 Hi history of last 3000 years has enough evidences to prove that pandemic like these cannot be contained if not contained within the lowest possible diameter For saving a town if you need to sacrifice a village and it goes on like that Democracy doesnt exist shouldnt during these difficult worrisome time With incubation period of 24 days and a huge country like US akin to china it might sound inhumane to think like that But at a larger interest of the society and human civilisation sacrifice or collateral damage if you like that word is something every government will agree on A single Super carrier can induce this virus to innumerable people till heshe falls sick if at all the algorithm is to find out these potential people round them up round all people he has been in contact with quarantine and administer medicine If you prorate this across 50 states you will find a lot of people you need to bring them to some central place like a repository like Wuhan China and cannot let these people run free Thats the only way to contain singapore proved it China proved it|1 The calculus involved here is fairly obvious To admit the true scale of this would render all the market calming mood music redundant and the reality of the inevitability of a systemic financial collapse would be bleakly manifest So we play for time because another few days or weeks in the sunny uplands of end stage capitalism is worth any amount of human suffering so anathema to our financial masters is the hinterland which awaits|1 Thank you Were actually in self imposed quarantine right now Kids have had a steady 375 fever for days now Both of us have also had temp spikes although Im back down to 368 now Bit of an off feeling in the throat and some cough in the evenings Im hoping thats because our air is rather dry here Plus no viable way to test so were staying put and have told everyone to stay away until were cleared Maybe were just paranoid by this point but I dont mind being a bit on the para side given what is happening|1 Whoa whoa whoa how can you try to rationalize this We need to panic buy all the TP and demand everyone gets atleast 1 test Were scared of a virus that will most likely not kill us unless were old with preexisting conditions Oh and murica sucks s|0 Thanks for sharing|1 This is still most likely to be influenza not coronavirus Did you get tested for flu|0 Good|1 No a vaccine wouldnt workWho said the Chinese arent inventive engineers|0 There was another thread using the same outbreak for migrant bashing yesterdaySo we either condemn them all or none Just saying|0 Thats literally unrelated to the ACA thats your health insurance taking efforts to stop you booking directly with a specialist so that they can make more moneyAdditionally the ACA was written by the insurance companies as a stopgap measure to preserve and solidify their position in American healthcare They add nothing to healthcare other than act as gatekeepers to make things more expensive|0 Some of the weirdest stuff has become hard to get According to my friend who shopped last week cereal is nowhere to be found Its not even the healthy stuff its mostly Lucky Charms|1 I just dont understand what the suggested conspiracy is herecan someone fill me in|0 The zinc thing discussed here makes sense intuitively as cq is only a conveyer that helps zinc in your body to neutralize the virus rna Still chance is if you have been following any reasonably bbalanced healthy diet at all plenty of fresh meat and produce then you are already getting enough ZInc to make this happen without any supplements|1 Did you watch the most recent correspondence Theyre granting cash grants and cutting business tax and giving tax holidays over the next year 330bn in fact But ye hur hur FucK tHe GovErNmeNT|1 Should start with your own govs first before fingers and holding other responsible Hopefully they will all the their comeuppance by their own but I would personally would rather see the heads roll for the criminally incompetent and negligent response in the USEdit Im all about remove the log in your eye before talking about splinters in your brothers|0 I think we have to be very very careful not to drive fear in the world right nowRight except that fear is very contagious and your credibility is in tatters now|1 Cool pull the mask up and cough a phlegmy sounding cough in their face hock up a loogie and spit it into a napkin in front of them then smile and pull the mask back downHow fast do you think they will go pale and run for the exits|1 Yes yes yes This worries me people going down a spiral leads to depression or anger neither are good at this point People need to not only prep for their body but their minds Buy that soap that makes you feel invigorated but games you can enjoy and think of what really makes you happy and try to incorporate that into prepping you decide to do If you decide to|1 Its ridiculous what the store managers do to the employees just to get a bigger bonus check Lawd they are so overworked right until they hit overtime and then the rest of the employees are screwed because theres one less employee in that department I still have nightmares about working at Harris Teeter as a personal shopper |0 My body aches SO bad Taking Tylenol just for that even though I wish I didnt so that my fever could help fight it off Any suggestions Im taking baths that help but I feel like Ive been hit by a train|1 I dont support censorship but I can certainly understand the argument for it Panic would exacerbate the situation and people as a group are kind of dumb and panicky Plus the censorship has given me time to get some supplies in order before things get all crazy Id prefer to have a good flow of reliable information but the writing has been on the wall for awhile about just how bad this is for those who bothered paying attention|0 I heard that she is not cooperating with the Korean authority because of her religion is that true|1 Tbh its probably just planned and coordinated to try to get Americans used to the idea of whats to come while trump can save face|1 nope now people think hes a quack and fear mongering You can warn people all you want but the general population in the US is convinced this is still just the flu Its very alarming|0 Had the stupid CCP not try to cover it up in the 2 weeks and implemented countermeasures earlier then the scale of the issue wouldnt be as severe I read somewhere within that 2 week period 500000 people moved in and out of Wuhan Fucking china and their inactions As always China will never learn that trying to censor information and hide the truth from others will result in no good The deaths of thousands around the world and possibly much more is on Chinas hand|1 Well I for one hope youre right Not really interested in rerolling my character but would prefer that over just blinking out to never return|1 Had to explain this to a friend who thinks social distancing is an overreaction Its counter intuitive for people to know that when you dont see more cases it doesnt mean the preventive measures are not working|1 Freedom and living is overrated anyways|1 Just to piggyback off OPs thoughts Start a hotline for people who want testing and then deliver a spit samples or swab containers to the residence to then later be picked up by a medical worker in full PPE That would limit exposure to the medical worker going house to house or having to fully disinfect everytime they went to a new house Results could be fast if it was a targeted approach in each city instead of everyone going to the hospital risking initial infection there|0 Sick people need them the most|0 Trump cut the CDC funding and he cut the pandemic response|0 I canceled my wedding which was next week I feel good about it|1 Source please|1 I figured thered be a response like thisThe death rate epidemiologists like to use is deaths deaths recovered We have numbers for those too outside of China there have been 2 deaths and 42 recovered caseshttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2019E2809320Wuhancoronavirusoutbreakbycountryandterritory This is unfortunately flawed too because1 Thats a really small number of deaths and recoveries to draw statistical conclusions from2 Deaths happen before recoveries do if you have two critically ill patients and one dies in week 3 while the other recovers the other may not enter the recovered statistics until another 23 weeks have gone by This overestimates the CFR for the same reason that deaths total cases underestimates it particularly in the early stages of the epidemic3 International cases may be underestimated as well this sub certainly seems to think so while international deaths are probably not4 Mild cases where the patient is not hospitalized would likely never end up showing in the recovered numbers at all because they wouldnt seek medical treatment or be counted as a case at allTaking these into account you can probably take about 5 as an upperbound on the CFR and about 03 as a lowerbound with the current CFR somewhere in between The official estimates are about 2 which is right in the middle of that range|0 Name the virus thats already killed 22000 with over 300000 hospitalizations this year|0 Oh damn Yeah its too bad But you guys will probably be safer than I am Im only 3 miles away from the elementary school where the coronavirus infectee works|0 As usual he is full of shit Says nothing to worry about then silently cancels all his rallies|0 Hodl like the rest of us lmao|1 Yeah the spread of infection is likely very very wide there They havent tested anywhere near enough people|1 normal people already know its not engineeredI mean whyhow would they know for sure though Thats a pretty dumb thing to say|1 So if you start spread 6 weeks ago with an 2 fatality rate you should start seeing deaths now which we areExcept were also only noticing it in a small number of patients hence that 2 fatality rate is likely overblown|0 Im not sure exactly what he was trying to say there Theres a lot of speculation that this is a bioweapon that got loose from the weapons lab across the street from the seafood market in Wuhan httpswwwzerohedgecomgeopoliticalwhatareoddstimelinefactslinkingcovid19hivwuhanssecretbiolabhttpswwwzerohedgecomgeopoliticalwhatareoddstimelinefactslinkingcovid19hivwuhanssecretbiolab Canada caught some Chinese scientists stealing samples of some coronaviruses there are published medical papers by doctors who spliced HIV and SARS into bat viruses to make them infect humans A Harvard prof got arrested for violating US laws taking a lot of money under the table to illegally send virus samples to China Maybe hes trying to say something like its not just a Chinese problem its a problem for the whole world but Im not sure where hes trying to go with it Sounds kind of vague and threatening like hes going to blame America or Russia or Israel or Japan or somebody for the Covid19 outbreakI almost wonder if the translator screwed up because Im not totally clear what the man is trying to say Surely he doesnt want to say we stole this from Canada to weaponize it and then fucked up somehow because that wouldnt sound very good|0 If the pope gets it all the priests in Italy are in a bad place Theyre all old|0 Does anyone know SGs criteria for determining recovery Seems they had a quick increase in case count followed by an equally quick turnaround into recovered status although I dont have further dataIn Taiwan I believe they require two negative results spaced a few days apart followed by 14day quarantine before determining recovery Seems SG is less rigorous|0 Same Already called out for one day and planning on the same for my next shiftIf they arent offering any way to protect us what other option is there|1 How do I get approvedI want to talk about how Ive had ZERO social life since 5 weeks ago a day before the actual first case appearing in Vancouver at the demand of my parents yes I am grown man make my own decisions etc but you have no idea how the so called moral bondage is much stronger than actual metal chains Ive had countless fights with them in regards to useless panic how I still need to live life my peers are still out there having fun going on dates having a life etc And now its actually getting bad here and the social distancing may be actually warranted But Ive already been almost locked up for over 5 weeks I am not sure how much more of this I can takeMeanwhile I still go to work where I am a pharmacist interacting with the public every day where I am pretty sure I have a MUCH higher chance to catch something than if I go hang out with my friends and eat some dinner I still hear about my friends going to parties going to events going traveling I am not sure its worth ruining my relationship with my parents some more over this but I feel like the instant it blows over or the instant a vaccine is available and I get vaccinated I am moving out|1 maybe its how were the only human species that survived compared to our cousins we ha better gentics|1 Get this to the top|1 I went to the gym Thursday Came down with a cold Friday I just got an email from work telling me that Im denied access to their facilities for at least 2 weeks nowSitting here thinking I got off pretty light to be honest|1 My wife and I got sick right before Christmas Cough sinus issues my ears got stuffed up even not good but not horrible Got better around New years then we both got fucking pneumonia She cracked a rib from coughing and they tested her for all kinds of shit that all came back negative for myself I figured if they didnt know what it was why bother going at all Corona wasnt in the news yet so I figured it was just some weird bug I ate ricola like candy for January and just sucked up the sore ass ribcage and toughed it outHad almost no effect whatsoever on our kids too They had minor coughs for less than a weekId say its fairly possible tbh but it seems like if it was floating around as far back as December wed have a larger casualty count Perhaps theres been a bunch from Corona already that simply werent attributed to it|0 Fuck you guys with no Pangolin on the menu Pangolin has the majick mammal meat|0 Also if you collapse call 999Excuse me Miss I have something to tell you if hes alone and collapses hes gonna struggle with that one|0 The pathogenicity in Wuhan is only the equivalent of 36 roentgenNot Great Not Terrible|1 I play guitar for an 80s tribute group ha hence the long hair for the hair metal lookBut debating cancelling that for the time being|1 Therefore you are saying no one can support or criticise anything unless fully qualified to do so so whats your point|0 Not agreeing with you telling me how I dont care about anyone whos forced to work through a healthcare crisis when me and my coworkers are literally on the front lines prime examples of people forced to work through a healthcare crisis Youre right I disagree with you assuming that I dont care about those people because you thought what you had to say was so important you couldnt wait til you actually read my post to say it You could use some reading comprehension Maybe you could fit it in between your pyramid scheme job Probably some therapy too Its call histrionic personality disorder they need to check for that should save you some time and your husband some money|0 Hmmm are you referring to yourself too Judging by your comment history you sure do spend a lot of time on here|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 but why surely its in their best interest to enforce it hasnt this outbreak cost china tremendously|1 The month of March is going to be remembered in history book as the great panic or somethingYou think people are panicking now at costco cvs Wait until the thousands that got infected the past 2 weeks start having to go to hospital hospitals get overwhelmed death count spikes dramaticallyWe have NO immunity to this without Wuhanstyle forced quarantine we have no chance to slow it down|0 Remember when placed were shutting down due to infected people being there Now its like nah sorry we are too busy|0 My friend teaches at this school Shes petrified and rightfully so|0 Ok heres my thought process Yes 64 million is absolutely worst case scenario Yes Im not a virologist HoweverThe 20172018 flu seasonhttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburden20172018htm had 45 million infections The flu season is typically 1216 weeks per year Covid19 is twice as infectious as the flu It has also been circulating in the US for at least 4 weeks possibly up to 8 weeks now So were not starting from nothing like the virus showed up yesterday because were already at least 4 weeks into the outbreak The CDC site shows the first US cases at Jan 14thhttpsiimgurcomMy4mvv4png So its not 64 million in 8 weeks its worst case 64 million in 1216 weeks Compared to the lessinfectious flu hitting 45 million in 1216 weeks thats much less absurd For intellectual honesty lets say Im off by an order of magnitude and we hit 64 million in the next 8 weeks 520 of those people 3200001200000 will still need hospitalization and that still very nearly breaks the healthcare system|0 If you stare it down it wil leave the area Dont blink|0 People tend to be quite private about their health anyway so it wouldnt be unusual for someone who is sick to keep it to themselves rather than share it publically Plus it sounds like even mild cases are equivalent to the flu which if youve ever had it youll know is exhausting I think people suffering from coronavirus are likely to be resting and putting what energy they have into food and hygeine not social media When I had flu the last thing I wanted to do was look at screens at best I could listen to audiobooks or the radio|0 I remember seeing Jack Ma and Elon Musk have a debate Ma was clearly human focused and had faith in humans while Musk was constantly letting everyone know his contempt for humans Ma seems to be busy trying to help people meanwhile Musk is making up excuses to keep people at work and counting his dollars|1 Makes sense given my limited chemistry knowledge The practical question I have is whether they already have or can easily get the denaturant materials Would they normally have a reason to have that on hand Maybe its not too hard to order it and get it quickly Theyre also going to need packaging so I guess even if they have to order stuff they might not be delayed any further by having to order two things|1 This is awesome All together Thank you I would vote you in for President|1 Im not really a fan of the all encompassing labels but I wouldnt identify as being a conservative and wouldnt pass many of the typical litmus tests of conservatism That said I find Fox to be one of the less annoying traditional media outlets in the age of Trump because you still hear about the things rpoltiics is complaining incisively about you just dont hear about them for the entire hour|0 Mortality from every cause goes way up Flu deaths septic deaths heck gunshot deaths|0 Nope the Summithttpswwwwiredcomstorytheusagainhasworldsmostpowerfulsupercomputer in my weird little hometown|0 So are they just to remain open and emptyEdit to add its his damn wording How are people supposed to understand if he just says eh yeah wed recommend not going to the bar|1 Literally all masks are sold out in my town am I shit out of luck or can I modify my ski masks|0 I wasnt disagreeing with you Just saying that was a surprising thing people recommended stocking up on in a different thread|1 I think hospitals will be overrun no matter what even if we practice social distancing mitigation The only way now is draconian containment shutdown cities tomorrow everyone stay home What Italy is doing and hope new cases decline|1 I believe youre on to something And neither side of the Government will risk an election I see the death toll slowly but surely rising in this country within hours today it went from 2 6 ppl I can almost see it rising by Wednesday and Thursday|1 Hello same here I feel especially guilty because I ended up receiving a life saving transfusion at a wonderful Canadian hospital I am extra grateful for those who can and do give blood|1 Pay no attention to the man who just died in Sac today|0 I hate LA Randy Newman probably|0 Most every city is still enjoying pretty normal lives except for Seattle and to a degree NYC also bars and and restaurants are only affected in those two citiesIt was a shame to read that 20 restaurants have already closed there in Seattle but with a 184million cases thereas bad as Europeyou cant blame the people for being extremely cautious thereAlso Seattle is so cold that most of its restaurants are inside while in Florida with its warm weather has many restaurants outside|0 I am quite happy I am trying to help people who want it and will call out bullshit when i see it|1 Any evidence on that my friend Just curious|1 When theyre sick itll be the doctors this hospitals that Nobody will take responsibility for their own actions|0 Sometimes people are going to be angry but you cant let it change your behavior|0 Honestly I think were past that and it doesnt take a supersleuth to see how bad this is|0 And eating my shit will heal everything Someone wanna buy 150 for 150 gMany of them just want to sell something|0 Or a panic attack|0 Yes Fang Cang Yi Yuan not Bang Chang means mobile cabin hospitals|1 And an effective public health service providing free medical care|1 pretty sure its because youre connecting to their data network so they blast it out to all that are hooked up to it I wonder how many FSB and CIA phones went off lul|1 Visited Shanghai in Spring of 2017 it was cold but great weather clear skies took the metro to the airport and met some other tourists who said Beijing had terrible air quality during their stay|1 Even in desperate times nobody can be arsed to make lasagne|0 I posted this image a few minutes ago and realized that my use of the term preexisting conditions was wrong and seemed to imply comorbidity with the stated underlying conditions Due to my reluctance to alarm anyone I have deleted the post and replaced it with this one I do apologize for any undue alarm and confusion that my previous post had causedI realize you are using the term of the original Korean source when calling it an underlying condition but that is still very deceptiveUnderlie To be the basis or cause of somethinghttpswwwoxfordlearnersdictionariescomusdefinitionenglishunderlie To say these medical issues were the underlying conditions means that they were somehow the cause of the death from coronavirus Really there is no possible direct connection between a mental health condition and dying from coronavirus The underlying condition should be none any patient without a condition that actually underlies or at least contributesexacerbates their death from coronavirus|0 What is less unlikely though is that the virus mutates to get around our immunity as it goes around and around the world year after yearHonestly thats the most maddening thing about the yolo approach govts are taking to it do we really want to risk another common cold style virus one that has a history of chunking the population each time it goes through|0 Its higher than flu but its not 8|0 Let me ask you something if you could infect a whole building 2030 households just them Treat the ill test when its gone and then move to another building and so on Wont you do it With that you could have building by building getting immune and you could have enough resources to tend to the sickMy point is that you can combine the quarentine in Italy with the herd immunity in the UK in theory You could get everyone in quarentine then fully release one town or city no travel between other towns tend to the sick and move to another townSounds crazy But I think this theory might work best|0 A bad cold That wont age well|0 Can someone check I think this is the windows version download for the games offline version httpsfolditportaldownloadwindowsgot it from herehttpsfolditportalnode2008926|0 oh ok so its the broader rate which would include anything from a chest cold to a pandemic virus|1 Big heads crying right now|0 Where does he mention HIV All he said is that they tested negative after a few days How you interpret that result is up to you but he didnt say anything about the virus lying dormant|0 Low tidal volume on your stomach for 17 hours a day and medically induced comaparalysis improves survivability greatly according to youtube medcram This is based on research with other similar viruses causing full lung inflammation|1 Start recording and posting in social media I am certain that will take place Also I will say that coronavirus is deadly USA is just weeks away from Italy Colleagues want to go vacation in Italy wtf|0 thank you for your kind words hope it gets better|1 I cant help but imagine a Danish version of the Trailer Park Boys pulling this off|0 Oh yeah that makes sense Was just making a joke really That said a graph like that will only fuel the conspiracy side of life|1 The irony would be if he got it because he touched the mics|0 I wonder if there is still hope for local containment aka safe zones where we ensure everyone in a small town or municipality is safe from the virus Anyone entering the zone will need to be tested or turned away|1 We closed down relatively early So yes hopefully we wont ever get that bad|1 NJ is getting hectic as fuck lol the crazies are out buying all the water toilet paper hand sanitizer and everything else|1 Name checks outLady you or someone you know will be hospitalized for this Dont cut your nose off to spite your face This is not people taking shit from you This is about doing what is right to reduce the death rate and taking steps to keep your premiums from going up 75 or 100 next yearPlus I gotta say for someone who had to deal with cancer treatment and whose costs were largely paid for by your fellow enrollees ie coworkers Youre kinda being a bit short sided|0 This wont work People have to pay bills The 50 of American households are living paycheck to paycheck|0 They test much more aggressively than the othersWhatWhere|0 literally mention zero countries that are doing it better because there are zero 0range mang bad tho|0 Im an Ohio resident and a lifelong Democratic voter who voted against Governor Dewine in 2018 but I have nothing but admiration for how well hes handled this so far Hes secured my respect|1 Of course fuck the age group 12|0 My brothers coworkers wife is also trapped and worried about what will happen when her visa runs out Not sure what part of China shes in just that her family is a 10 hour drive from the nearest city and all roads out of the rural village are blocked due to the virus|0 this is a great ideaits called allocating resources and preparednesscant put all patients in 1 placeit may be neither practical nor safehospitals can become meeting places for the infected and the healthythis measure will keep them apart and no single hospital will be overwhelmedbravo for UK|0 i think its the right way Most people wont die in quarantine even if you catch it there Better than having people walking around and spreading it Asian countries have a much better way of hygiene in that they take more care for others They usually wear facemasks when they are sick themselves to not spread a cold or something to others Even if families are closer and in countries like china some conditions are way worse at least they do that I went to work in elderly care once with a facemask because i had a light cold I was treated like i brought the devil into their house just because i wanted to be careful They would not bat an eye if i come in with my runny nose sniffing and snodding|1 Xfinity is giving away their wifi in the meantime httpstwittercomOctobersOwnTaestatus1239375914007396353s20|1 My card tips do get taxed in Oregon not sure about there though Id guess its the same deal|0 Hows are they feeling these days|1 I think there is another important dynamic to unwillingness to overreact Mainly to do with how unprepared millions in the US are to deal with it not only because of their own ignorance but the complete ignorance of the US government to provide a security net for working americans Most cannot afford an emergency 500 expense let alone months of rent insurance mortgages and stockpiling foodso to see cases of others prepared to the brim Makes most feel isolated and helpless Someone needs to force change real fucking quick|0 It used to be illegal to buy back company stock with bailout money but now its common practice What a sham|0 I live in LA please please try and stay away from people and dont touch surfaces Imagine how many people can die just because you touch something|0 Ok awesome|1 I waited over six months for them to see if it was necessary to have wisdom teeth extracted Like Im just going to it for funright|1 I am aware but thanks for pointing it outThe young Steve playing a crucial role as vectors of the disease|1 Sorry this content is not available in your regionEU|0 No point Hundreds or thousands of people are in this same boat Capacity just doesnt exist to do the amount of testing that would be necessary|0 Denialism Confronting the truth would mean realizing the hellscape that could be on the horizon esp for medical professionals|1 size of south korea 100400 kmsize of Canada 9985 million kmits not as easy as look at them do that variables matter and have drastic impacts on spread and containment the most important is land size IMO Were trying to compare apples to oranges and that is only gonna crush our hopes we need to think realisticallyx200Bedit sorry i wrote America instead of Canada in the land size part|1 Even if Japan dont cancel the Olympics there may be some countries who will refuse to send their athletes over It really depends how the outbreak develops in the next few months is the outbreak going to worsen or be contained|0 Look at how ingrained conspiracy theorist is in your own mind and then maybe youll understand its purpose as a dismissive labelNothing to see here just another tinfoil conspiracy theorist Blah blah blah parrot parrot parrot|0 Thats it I was picturing the ship dance floor with people eating with the club song blasting during their hour out of their rooms But your hearing got through that last gap Updated Thanks|1 Our testing is so far behind this outbreak we will never catch up with it The official US infection count has always been and will remain nothing but limit of our testing capacity Same as fucking China but our capacity is way less so far Such a massive embarrassment|0 Damn I was just thinking it was some joke but verified Twitter accounts This is the type of shit I would see on meme pages but not actual people|0 Suspended because a player on the Utah Jazz was diagnosed with coronavirus He was just mocking the virus in a press conference the other day|0 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 Which 05 of me will get infected|0 I think were going to see a dramatic shift in how the public deals with healthcare after the dust settlesEdit sorry to answer your question no weve been getting further away from it until recently when the govt started providing us basic human rights|0 Ive been there multiple times for months everyone is super selfcentered and individualisticOh well I cant argue with that kind of expertise Obviously you know everything about the people and culture after multiple months s|1 It is drastic and it is overloaded in the North but only because were being stupid with our strategies to slow it down People shouldnt die because of incompetence|0 Thanks mate Ill definitely keep you updated regardless|1 Its almost like broadband should be regulated like a utility |1 Do note that anxiety can have very similar symptoms as you have described It might be a possibility that it is psychosomatic Not saying it is Just pointing it out as one possible cause amongst manyhttpswwwmayoclinicorgdiseasesconditionsanxietysymptomscausessyc20350961httpswwwmayoclinicorgdiseasesconditionsanxietysymptomscausessyc20350961 On a secondary note I just ordered a home test kit for NCOV19 It was only about 28 so not terribly expensive Might be an option to ease your mind if available in your country|1 Dont miss payments defer them Theres a whole process in the event that youre unable to pay Normally it causes the loan payoff amount to increase due to interest Hence why this is a good mandate|1 Yes it is and while freedom of press is great it can lead to problems like those That is why I compared the US to China because they can step on any freedom they like there making things much easier|1 Ive been screenshotting every FacebookTwitter post about people saying dumb shit I just want to see how it lines up when shit hits the fan and everyone deletes all their stupid posts|0 I live in a rural town so Im hoping we dont get it if its not already here I have no idea what to do because theres no birthing centers here And theres only 1 hospital I know labor and delivery will be sealed off from the main hospital and has its own main entrywayHowever my prenatal appointments include walking into the main section of the hospital So I bought aBP cuff blood sugar monitor and pulse oximeter and will literally track my own vitals if it gets bad enough to where Im scared to leave the houseIm going to call my midwife and ask her about home visits if this thing blows up here I totally understand being worried about prenatal visits I cant believe its come to this|0 Less than 5k people have died Worlwide After 6 months Curb the doomerism More people have died on US highways this year than have died globally of coronavirus this year and last combined|0 I see that Michigan is investigating three possible cases From what I can tell in US reports you get an initial report that medics are investigating then never hear anything further I guess if you dont hear anything further it means that state has the allclear For example there were several cases in California that were being investigated but I never heard any follow up so assume that the coast is clear there Or perhaps it just takes long time for investigators to track down any and everyone who may have been in contact with suspected patients|1 Yeah remember the RSV vaccine Not a coronavirus but still a disaster|0 WWII Soldiers COVID19 front line staffThe curious part of me thinks How many of total infected are asymptomatic If we are tested positive and asymptomatic could we help in these hospitals Im thinking about Canada how its coming to us and how we can help|1 Cities and states would just be opening themselves up to false charges lawsuits For municipalities in the US to suddenly begin systematically filing extreme charges against someone who is sick when there have been no such attempted murder charges filed in the past against other virus sufferersPeople can be charged with Criminal transmission of HIV AIDS or other STDs which is only a misdemeanor charge in a lot of states But those charges require evidence that diseases were actually transmitted|0 It wont decrease the fear if we begin hearing about hospitals being overrun I feel what we need are as many case studies as possible with all relevant info about each case and the outcome|1 humans are idiots lol|1 it never would have ben effective closing borders would cause absolute chaos when the country starts to run out of goods in a short few weeks if that were the casenor would it stop a virus virus dont have to go through customs D|0 What the hell are we headed for|0 Thanks for your daily write upsDo you have any figures on the number of people tested over time Im very curious to know the total tested in the US so far|1 people dont understand basic math cant think into the future and are terrible at reorganizing their mental priorities unless something directly experiential is taking place|0 Excellent decision|1 Thats why I was trying to get info from my sister in law who is a doctor who got a post med school degree related to public health So far she only told us her hospital ER had its first positive case Sunday Ive been reading all the diabetes sites too I dont believe conspiracies but I do wonder if our political dysfunction has led to less competency on the part of our nonpolitical medical agencies|0 Yeah its a strange thing Ive seesawed on whether Im doing the right thing by preparing for the last week Today I went and picked up some bits and bobs which arent supplies but I wont need for a while so getting them now is a little premature While I was out Id pretty much talked myself into thinking everything was ok but I read the headlines when I got home and flipped right back when I realised it was local nowFortunately my husbands onboard with laying in supplies I dont know what Id have done if Id been the only one concerned Fairly happy with where we are but worried how this will develop now|1 Stfu we R tEh cool kid|1 Theres no getting around it its a 100 infection fatality rate airborne hemorrhagic superAIDS with R0 50|0 Write about that then my dude theres gonna be some solemn songs to make|0 Of those who get ill enough to be tested at a hospital|0 The WHO and CDC define case fatality rate as deaths over confirmed diagnosed cases Not recoveries not hospitalized not any other figure However CFR can reference todays deaths over confirmed cases from another time period eg 7 days agoCFR is always a rough indicator I cant believe Im explaining this three damn months into the pandemic Read up people|0 Their numbers are bullshit What they enact extraordinary measures far too late then magically spike what was it 20k in one day because the CFR was out of controlI mean we knew their numbers were off any counties would be but there is no way given the spread of the virus the way the virus spreads and the lifecycle of the virus their numbers come anywhere remotely close to being believableThe CCP is a fucking disgrace|0 Right on Some of us began stocking up 23 months ago Shortages caused last week are not our fault You snooze you lose|0 This is a very disturbing position|0 So much hot air There is no proof for the latter either so stop making assumptions just because they fit the situation and may give some karma|0 The article is from February however if you read through this thread there are reports in both the Philippines and South Korea dated March 15 regarding this avian flu having been spread to both the aforementioned countries|0 Time to go backWhat year is good Im thinking 1996 See you there|1 Right And I am so tired of everyone saying the flu is worse than the virus or ourPresident acting like its no big deal|0 Maybe a little but I dont blame you|1 Toronto has secured motel space to isolate homeless who tested positive with coronavirus httpswwwthestarcomampnewsgta20200311torontosecuresmotelspacetoisolatehomelesspeoplewithcoronavirushtml|1 Do you mean factories I thought many factories shut down for Chinese New Year for two weeks I worked for a company where we prepared for the spring gap in supplies arriving We would use other suppliers if necessary but they would be much more expensive|1 Costco had some great marsala lentil in packets Finally got husband to try some with rice One packet is two good servings Add a bit of pepper and you have two meals with very little effort well cooking the rice but you can either make your own or Costco has little premade rice bowls too|1 I mean my work staying open is them telling us they could care less if we get it anyways so |1 As a Vietnamese Im currently feel exactly the same for EU and US Some BBC journalists commend that extreme measure from Vietnamese government is unnecessary and now we only got 61 cases with zero death despite being a close country to China Most new cases right now are from tourists andor people return home from EUUS not many cases from direct transmission within the country|0 Also you could offer to work from home so it doesnt come across as telling the boss what to do ETA Not saying you should have to worry about that And you are right This is based on my own experience working with an infection hygiene challenged coworker|0 Wait so is it more deadly to people who are like teens or young adults I feel like i took in this info wrong|1 True and in testing so many theyre the most proactive in getting people treatment and isolation far sooner than elsewhere saving many lives and reducing the mortality rate At least thus far Im perceiving SKs test results and mortality as a best case scenario for anywhere|1 I hope so too I have given up on trying to convert people I send them articles only occasionally Those who want to know about the world have slowly started looking for information themselves and asking me questions Their reactions to my answers are quite startling They wonder how come everyone is not aware of all these things The others live in denial I think for some as a defense mechanism Ignorance is bliss To think it is a possibility that we could have experience what other countries have I think is too much for people to handle not saying that we will or we wont The way I see it information is power and from where I sit the best I can do is be informed and be carefulmindful and learn from the experiences of others What concerns me most is the people on the front lines that are uninformed They are the ones who could benefit the most from the information shared by other countries Trying to stay positive|1 Your not helping|0 Do NOT take Ibuprofen or aspirin on an empty stomach Take with after food or with milk It can cause stomach bleedingAlso note your dosage High dosages also cause bleeding|0 Yes her doctor advised it Shes suffering a high fever difficulty breathing and body aches Shes tested negative for the flu both kinds and a few others I guess He said to assume its the new virus because he cant test her He argues she should try to bed rest and stay away from people to prevent spread|0 Now how many sick people yall got|0 Do not put water on them It ruins them Leave them out somewhere safe and let the virus die off takes about 2 weeks maybe 3 to be safe|0 Unethical act which violated ethical medical standards which was actually the ethical decision to make considering the circumstances If the test came Back negative was she still acting ethically|0 But we can probably save some lives before May 9 cant we|1 Global dimming problem is just some medicine we are going to have to swallow because the only alternative is to dim ourselves with pollution till we die from it|0 Youre supposed to cough and sneeze into a tissue which is the exact practice Dr John has been stressing|0 Our doctors and nurses are going to contract this and our first line of defense is going to be down for the count before we even start testing for it Get ready for a real shit show folks|0 ILs standards are similar Very few tests being allowed by the Dept of Public Health Im an NP for an ambulatory clinic|1 WHO changes the threshold for what a pandemic is The last time the WHO declared a global pandemic was the outbreak of H1N1 otherwise known asswine flu in 2009 At the time swine flu had infected close to 30000 people across 74 countries As of Tuesdaymorning for comparison Covid19 had infected over 79000 people across 28 countries with 2069 cases reported outside of China Labelling H1N1 a pandemic was controversial however The WHOdefinedthe term simply as a worldwide spread of a new disease Critics laternotedthat WHO officials lowered the organizations criteria fordefininga pandemic shortly beforehand Previously a viral outbreaks mortality rate had to reach a certain levelin addition to contagion going internationalfor it to qualify for the pandemic label Facing a lack of consensus on the proper definition of the word the WHO appears to have done away with the word pandemic altogether at least in its official terminologyhttpsfortunecom20200225coronaviruspandemicwho|0 1918 flu spread worldwide via troop movements Viruses love to hitchhike|1 Yes thanks for correction|1 Its very reassuring when you hear him When I hear the CDC director it often feels he is on first day of his job|1 Good luck If your needing hand sanitizer itll prob be sold out everywhere You can make your own though 23 isopropyl rubbing alcohol with 13 aloe vera gel and a few drop of tea tree oil Its not the best but better than nothing|1 No its because saying otherwise would encourage public to wear masks to protect even when not showing symptoms yet and we dont have enough of those We have to save masks for emergency responders|1 Having the budget tied to the parks usage also incentives them to run well enough that more people want to go or come back If 100 of the budget is guaranteed yeartoyear were giving them complete and total trust to spend it wisely|1 Think of it this way with an R0 of 2 there were half as many cases last week as this week With an R0 of 3 there were 13 the cases Its very easy for this to fly under the radar as part of peak flu season Until its everywhere|1 Okay I can remove that link if youd like I had just written about this trial last week so thought it is easier to post that then recreate the post which I pretty much nearly ended up doing in other comments anyway|1 true|1 And the flip side is recording deaths as flu and not Covid19|0 I wish Lockdowns are the only proven method to slow this monster down buy time get the test kits flowing and save a community or state or countryHowever they have to be done before a massive outbreak happens ideally We have seen over and over again what happens if youre just a week or two late|1 EDIT If its so unsanitary dont come here Go to Orlandox200BPeople arent STILL on Bourbon stAll that shit was from last night get a grip It was St Pattys day and all the old white dudes were out in full force not giving a fuck People have finally wised up although probably too lateBourbon st live cam httpswwwearthcamcomusalouisiananeworleansbourbonstreetcambourbonstreethttpswwwearthcamcomusalouisiananeworleansbourbonstreetcambourbonstreetNOLA news from yesterday about people being flippant about the virus hanging at Traceyshttpsbraiservicesnewscyclecloudcomcmobraccmdb01subscriberwebstartoffershtmlcampaignGroupDigitalDigitalskipZipCodeyesshowOfferCodenohttpsbraiservicesnewscyclecloudcomcmobraccmdb01subscriberwebstartoffershtmlcampaignGroupDigitalDigitalskipZipCodeyesshowOfferCodenoCHURCHhttpswwwnolacommultimediaphotoscollection9eb07524664211ea86be87a5cf76144chtml25httpswwwnolacommultimediaphotoscollection9eb07524664211ea86be87a5cf76144chtml25|0 They need to request help first In order for that to happen they need come clean with the real number of infected and the government has to basically admit theyve failed totally Not saying it cant happen but its a tough pill for Iran to swallow|0 Yes Yes it is|1 Oof imagine being married to someone like that|1 Lets test how great the US health care system is Isnt Trump always proud of how good it is Not being political here but as a leader he must have some sense of emergency He got none|1 Strangeley i saw a headline on a leading daily newspaper last week saying there are too many old people and we are struggling to cope with an aging population|0 Ah yes And India too Oh but they were so good at containing 19 cases of Nipah s|1 Yes sir|1 Beijing never ban flight from USA or SK or UKbut ask the people arrived from there do a 14 days quarantine no matter their temperature while arrivingthis quarantine is not volunteerd but forced Meanwhilepeople back to work with a 50 ratio inturn at one timepublic transportation back normal with restricted cleandelivery back normal|1 That would likely kill far more than the virus itself Theres less than 100 deaths in the entire US and the vast majority of those were sick frail and elderly Fauci looks to be trying to be a hero but of course it wont cost him anything|0 Thats fair I guess it depends on your family and your relationship with them|1 Can you think of a better source equally authoritative of data than WHOin any case I will be looking for data of interest from WHO to add to the chart x200BThis could help you a bit|1 Katie keeps hitting this shit out of the park Please let her be the next real deal leader|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Ive been trying to avoid reusing clothes and spraying down my winter jacket with Lysol every time I come in contact with a public space ie I dont spray it down if Im only in my own car but will spray it if I sit at a restaurant or on the train This is just a normal persons idea of reasonable practice though maybe I should indeed be showering when I come in|0 youre right instead we should have private insurance that a majority of the country cant afford so they wont bother get tested fuck having paid sick days lets just force people to go to work sick and spread this plague to every passer by so our precious economy doesnt tank yeah thats winning right there|0 I myself would post it on FB Maybe call the media Get it out there We owe it to one another to keep the info public We all need to be the heros here If you save a life its worth it The deaths arent numbers they are people|1 This is a timeline of the national embarrassment Trumps response to the coronavirus epidemicJanuary 22 We have it totally under control Its one person coming in from China Its going to be just fineFebruary 2 We pretty much shut it down coming in from ChinaFebruary 24 The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA Stock Market starting to look very good to meFebruary 25 CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling CoronavirusFebruary 25 I think thats a problem thats going to go away They have studied it They know very much In fact were very close to a vaccineFebruary 26 The 15 cases in the US within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zeroFebruary 26 Were going very substantially down not upFebruary 27 One day its like a miracle it will disappearFebruary 28 Were ordering a lot of supplies Were ordering a lot of uh elements that frankly we wouldnt be ordering unless it was something like this But were ordering a lot of different elements of medicalMarch 2 You take a solid flu vaccine you dont think that could have an impact or much of an impact on coronaMarch 2 A lot of things are happening a lot of very exciting things are happening and theyre happening very rapidlyMarch 4 If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by you know sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work but they get betterMarch 5 I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to workMarch 5 The United States has as of now only 129 cases and 11 deaths We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possibleMarch 6 I think were doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down a tremendous job at keeping it downMarch 6 Anybody right now and yesterday anybody that needs a test gets a test Theyre there And the tests are beautiful the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect The transcription was perfect Right This was not as perfect as that but pretty goodMarch 6 I like this stuff I really get it People are surprised that I understand it Every one of these doctors said How do you know so much about this Maybe I have a natural ability Maybe I should have done that instead of running for presidentMarch 6 I dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasnt our faultMarch 8 We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirusMarch 9 This blindsided the world|1 Yes thats exactly the cycle I go through I actually just added minute potatoes to my list earlier because I forgot they existed Of course depending on Bakers press conference it might not be worth going to the store tonightI dont know what to do about the fear Ive just been trying to get them to even understand that they are high risk and should be careful We have great healthcare here but even in the commonwealth itll get overrun just due to demand If they start triaging like Italy itll be really difficult I understand why and cant imagine how difficult it just be as the person decidingI dont expect we will lose utilities here or if we do hopefully itll be brief Ive debated getting a solar unit and a crack radio but Im trying to limit purchases to things Ill use otherwise other than about 100 with of stuff I got thats very sick focused Im figuring if they do eventually tell us to quarantine theyll need to give us at least 5 hours because people will need to get home and the people not paying attention will rush to stores That should give me time to leave work check in on people and get home Good luck to you and yours Feel free to contact me If things get bad if Im near your family and can help I will|1 Showing someone 5 miles from me But thats not whats being reported Could there be errors on the app|0 Sore throat and runny nose isnt coronavirus|0 Today my company allowed me to work at home as much as possible and if I need to go to the office Im allowed to do so off hours when no ones around|0 Its the CDC We dont have enough tests and are limited Im a nurse and they are making us go through a bunch of other testing first before we test for covid19 Its honestly ridiculous I think we should be able to test everyone but the CDC wont let us|0 Oh Lol You got me |1 5 days old mom had the virus and was still discharged in a few days this is really good newsedit this isnt sarcasm even though it somewhat reads to be|1 It take long to recover It does not always take long to die So the number is not reliable|0 Oh Ive told him loads of facts Its more of a defeatist Normalcy bias|0 Much much lower mortality rate and much much lower rate of complications and much much lower infectiousnessThis one week and hospitals are overwhelmed And hundreds die and hundreds more need ventilationH1N1 one week and one old lady needs some oxygen|0 As I understand elderly those with weaker immune systems are at greater risk of death yet could you assume those with such condition would be less likely to travel internationally Does this have any relevance to the way you statistically determine the probability of death rates Is it important to examine the death rate of healthy individuals differently|0 But no singing happy birthday Disgraceful|1 I dont agree with his percentages but I do agree to an extent Im a nurse and all of nursing school they are trying to teach us to think critically A number of my classmates and I came to the conclusion that what they were calling critical thinking to us was just normal thinking Then I began to wonder why kids arent taught to critically think from a young age Educators are too busy trying to force kids into being cogs in a machine that too much critical thinking is seen as badI think too much about things because I have anxiety My mind is always going always wondering whats this person mean on a deeper level that they arent saying But is it really terrible for kids to be taught to delve deeper into what they are learning instead of being able to regurgitate what was laid out in front of them|0 Yeah Im so sick of it|0 Just vote Sanders and give him a clear blue Congress Thats all we need to do and its within our reach|1 OTHERCOUNTRIES WOULD YOU PLEASE CONSIDER|1 He wont admit wrong however|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Being beyond containment is one thing Concealing the truth is another whole different issue Someone is going to have to spill the beans sometime How would we be any better than the CCP or Dr Tedros Or maybe we need to be heroic as Tedros claims the Chinese are Lock people up lie about numbers and produce propaganda What next Order everyone back to work|1 fact italians hate other italians but they love italy 3|1 Businesses shouldnt be forced to pay employees who dont work If the restaurant isnt bringing in money how can they pay you|1 Its a type of lyssa virus basically just a type of rabies You catch it from bats via a vector animal like a horse Epidemiologists arent very worried about any of these diseases to be honest because theyre pretty hard to catch and kill people too quickly to spread much They are worried as fuck about respiratory illnesses which arent as sexy as the haemorrhagic diseases but kill way way more people|0 It is time the economists took over from the doctors before the real pandemic spreadsThe REAL pandemic How about no This article is not what we need right now|0 I can assure you thats entirely inaccurate Influenza is an acute virus Theres no maintenance or latency that happens|1 Dont take this as gospel She is a young woman the demographic at least risk after children She may have been infected but was asymptomatic|0 This is Great news|1 Agreed Ive loaded up on hand sanitizer havent thought about using nitrile gloves though Should grab a box|1 There is the incubation period AND the mild symptoms or no symptoms period It can go up to 20 days and more And also people do work at least some of them They still live with others they still go to the supermarket|0 Hospital beds arent the important number ICU beds and ventilators are more important and those numbers are much more scary 90 typical utilization is what Ive read It wouldnt take much to overwhelm that|0 Even the CDC doesnt reccomend the general public wear a mask Im sorry but I trust the CDC more than untrained internet experts |1 I live in Ohio and my mom is a nurse and can see some of the newest data thats available here So far Ive only heard of 5 cases A lot of people at my school are beyond frustrated with this decision and so many of them are saying the classic line its just the flu The more I look at this sub the more I agree with DeWines decision Most stores around have been completely drained of toilet paper and have signs limiting it to two packs a person Who knows how this 3 week cancellation will align with the Covid19 spread|0 Dont forget eggs to make the pastayou can freeze eggs in an ice cube tray Look it up|1 Based on strong priors of China having a reputation of doing this type of stuff and it being in their direct selfinterest to do it again now httpsenwikipediaorgwikiOrganharvestingfromFalunGongpractitionersinChina|1 Haha No idea why either|1 Salvadorean here thank you for clearing the air here El pulgarcito de America usualmente is badly portrait|0 Ah good to hear people are taking church seriously|1 I work in the aerospace manufacturing industry We got word today that we are starting to run low on masks Dunno what were gonna do about ppe|0 Seriously they were welding people shut in their homes and building massive hospitals by the time they hit our numbers|0 We need to take the power back and invest our money into whatever we want not have our money be taken and spent at the whim of the 50I think this response is a perfect display of government inefficacy and should be used as an argument for less government not more|1 Its in the S health under stress unless youre in Canada|0 Damn straight to the front lineFtfy|0 Our companys primary domain is risk mitigation That one make me make a derp face here wished they were all correct at first and sad they were wrong |0 I used to do road maintenance work and the older guys would cut painted concrete rebar treated wood asphalt all kinds of shit and would never wear masks or safety glasses Same thing when painting theyd be using heavy duty sprayers and just not give a fuck Id always wear a mask glasses and ear protection and theyd talk shit to me about it Almost every day when we finished my glasses and mask would be dark brown and covered in really small dots of paint all over Fuck that whole job and everyone with that safety is for pussys mindset|0 Honestly its not even that many there are 50 cities with population over 2 mil If you divide 7mil by 50 each city is getting around 140kAvg lets say each patient need around 3 tests to be confirmedcleared in Canada we need 2 positive tests that many test kits can only test around 46k ppl per city on avg How many people among those 46k do you think will come back confirmed|1 We are retarded Even more so because we have the capability to not be retarded and yet we collectively choose to remain retarded|0 Not true our governor said today that they are still waiting on more tests from CDC who keep promising that they will be here in a few days and the QuestLabcorp will be ready to test in a few days but nothing is happening|1 Humans are capable of screwing up anything Whats your point|1 Is there a way we can see cases over time by date I would love to track how exponential the increase is|1 Worse than that the virus is contagious|0 Yes I agree I also basically said what youre saying in a reply to another post in this thread The point of that is a very simplified case study Even if the people traveling is a skewed sample it should not be THAT different of a health effect in fact I can almost prove from my more granular data that its not|1 It must have changed Cause it was true at one point Looked it up and Nauru is fattest to population ratio|1 Isnt 11 million the worst case scenario at 34 mortality of a population at about 331 million|0 We have quite a few citizens like that And they are usually heavily armed|1 WellThats 24 more lives lost and a lot more infected|0 Maybe on a Netflix documentary like Rotten I doubt there will be any more serious consequences than that|0 Trump Hey Lets blame Obama for my faults Trump supporters Thanks ObamaMe I hate you all|0 Im literally referencing what you commented Your single digit IQ is painfully obvious gross|0 Same I got the 20lb bag of rice yesterday and the cashier was all I didnt know we had them this big what do you do with this much rice Ummmm have enough rice for a long time hopefully|1 I think this is more I want the answer that validates what I want In the end who can you really believe People generally believe who they want to believe People who think this is going to be a huge problem generally post articles about doom and gloom People who dont prep and move on with their lives|0 If you are going to claim numbers literally an order of magnitude more than the actual numbers please provide a source|1 The press reports Ive seen dont identify which of the three sequences had the problem|0 Does it prevent people from traveling to other areas if theyre quarantined Gee I dont know if I have it and I have to go in this business trip I guess Ill still go vs I tested positive left my employer know and Im staying home|1 Were talking about people spending 247 in their homes without anything to do Well thats part of the problem they have then isnt it Its kind of sad if you cant think of anything more challengingentertaininginteresting to do than masturbation|0 Can you explain to me how this is insightful This graph does a death rate not the number of dead To me this is false information|0 So you are agreeing it is significantly less 34 is low 072 is way less|1 Closing borders wont do shit but it looks good for the politicians The fact that Sweden is waiting with some apparently easy actions actually gives me confidence that they have a plan and are not just acting in panic In Sweden these things are left to experts in their respective departments to decide But time will tell I guessMy guess is that they know this cant be stopped and that people will die But they have done their math and taken the tough decision to wait for it to start spreading to a larger part of the healthy population before shutting down everything If timed correctly the country will be in full quarantine while this first wave of large amount of cases are contagious This makes sense if you think the only way to stop this in the long run is thru herd immunity|1 No man Dont wish death on anyone In any case|0 My school had nursing students exposed to the confirmed case in Solano county then return to school then later tell the school and are now self isolating and the school sent us a bunch of emails about it and still isnt going to do anything|0 Europe is so fking done We have totally spineless leaders we have absolutely no borders anymore whatsoever our native populations are dropping in almost every single country and now were being wiped off by corona and our so called leaders are afraid of closing down well anything Europe is dying with a freaking whimper Its so sad to see|0 Oh Jesus yeah YOU ARE SO ATTACKED AS A CONSERVATIVE|0 the WHO have seen how effective the methods have been in China and are holding out hope that the Western world can replicate the outcomeCOrrectThe WHO notes that this would be unprecedented in human historyIf they end up controlling a pandemic they havnt declared yet Thats what they say would be unprecedented not replicating the methodsEventually this virus will die out as all viruses eventually doTime for someone to google the word endemicYou must be able to see that containment is not possible in Western countries once theres been a substantial amount of cases and why Chinas handling of it is extremely unique and could only be replicated in certain places Russia North KoreaYea but only because of morally bankrupt arseholes like you who are fine with 100000s of dying Not because we cant do itDo you think the UK government will be dragging people out of their homes Do you think the UK government will be able to dedicate tenshundredsofthousands of people to constant surveillance readreadhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar09thenewnormalchinasexcessivecoronaviruspublicmonitoringcouldbeheretostay Do you think the UK government would be able to build a thousand bed hospital in less than a week The answer to all of these are noNone of these things are happening in South Korea and they seem to be passing their peak with very strict quarantine conditions So far 53 deathshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOJQTM4QbTsgt13m53shttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOJQTM4QbTsgt13m53s EDITOh I dont know how about the moment where you basically implied that I was uncaring lazy and didnt care about deaths And what kind of logic leads you from that to thinking I think viruses have feelings|0 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 My point was that drivers are no different I walk in the door and Im exposed to 200 employees instantly The professions that dont have a work from home option come into contact with lots of peopleThe original post was some doomsday scenario that truckers are spreading it more then othersThere are plenty of professions and locations with much higher human traffic then a truck drivers truck You may spread it driving from NY to Florida But what about the 1000 flights today from NY to FloridaAll Im saying is truckers arent the ones causing a pandemic|0 Yes but the peak infection right now is modeled around JuneJuly That would be about the worst time to have the Olympics if they do in fact happen Assuming this projection is correct delaying until September or so could be a feasible solution Cancelling probably still the smartest choice though|1 You wont know for a while but we will get a better idea of what the death rates are under different conditions We have a good idea what they were in Hubei but theres reason to hope it will be lower elsewhereOn the south Korean rates 06 is optimistic Thats what you get by dividing the amount of deaths by the total of confirmed cases The problem with this is that newly infected patients havent had the time to get sick and die yet With exponential growth of infections these can artificially suppress the mortality rate by a lot If you take only the deaths versus the number of recovered patients you get a much higher rate of 20 This is obviously overshooting since its usually faster to die of a disease than to recover However the discrepancy between 06 and 20 really shows that its too early to tellTheres also the danger of undertesting of mild cases This doesnt seem to be that much of an issue in South Korea though|0 I hope you and your family get better Stay strong|1 This alert was sent out by Gumi City to nearby residents a city that is close to Daegu city Daegu is where the superspreader cult member and church is locatedRough translation Confirmed persons route of travel Feb17 1800 Hotel America Hwangsang district 1850 GS convenience store store specified Feb 18 0000 0130 Rolling stone pool club Hwangsang district|1 Talk to your doctor Many times they can extend your fill up for extended travel overseas etc|1 The man who broke quarantine to visit a public bath reportedly was blown apart by an antiaircraft gun|0 I expect they are looking at more details of that it could be that people caught the infection from family members who were not part of the quarantine but who did in fact get infected but tested negative previously Or it could be any number of causes Some of the experts will figure it out sooner or laterBut if a 2 week quarantine is bad a 4 week one is even worse People just dont handle it well psychologically|0 I foresee a lot of negligence Its the suffering I worry about even before justice is served|0 Id rather it be direct deposited instead of sent via COVID19 infected check|0 You win all the cookies|1 It was a shit name so no|0 Yes for the reasons you state the bad ingredient is BS but offers the a palpabe story to the testers who are public citizens We cant test with accurancy is my logical deduction all I have based on my internet aggregation Also transmitted in incubancy defaults to normal breathing airesol not projectile droplet transmission Frankly I think we are getting anti bank run statements and information because the truth is novel as in Latin and not novel as in English Glad I am speaking Latin with some people stopped speaking English with others Think at least if you cant decrypt|1 Doesnt he realize that the infected will die 15 days later and well find out You cant hide the bodies|0 Thank you|1 Theyre already quarantined Testing those people provides zero value besides making you feel better about a lower CFR|1 All percentage charts should be at 100 scale on y axis This subreddit is letting some misleading information slide a bit too much|0 Agree on A and C not really on B since other countries have everyone using them and its been effective stopping the spread which outweighs the panic it may causeBut a low supply or medical people needed it more doesnt seem to be the message people are getting in the US Instead mass amounts of people seem to think the masks dont have any effect AT ALL which to me makes no sense|0 Damn|0 Glad I live in America and not a tyrannical shit hole like Singapore|1 Ah got it thx|1 Theres gotta be something more than that because Japan hasnt been hit as hard|0 I went in February 08 and the air was fine very clear skies actually|1 I hope when this is over people start washing their damn hands more I know this is impossible but I would be interested to see how flu patterns would change if everybody started washing their hands|1 Maybe why Bernie didnt commit to picking a woman as VP|0 Surely this is hardly surprising The recovered attest to the effectiveness of specific antibodies and the immune systems ability to deal with it The question is how long does immunity last That it occurs should be a given|1 1200 out of 11000Not bad not terrible|0 Ahh yes the famous Main Streetflushing stop located directly in Westchester County|1 httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpguidancepreventspreadhtml Do some research for fucks sake|0 Markets could trip a second level breaker on Monday At which point the temporary battle would have been lost in Trumps mind so a country shut down would be acceptable and hes also halt trading in the markets|0 They stopped testing except in more serious cases Their medical infrastructure is too overwhelmed to handle it|0 Yes because China always quarantines 700M people every year for the flu Italy normally locks down 16M people annually for fun Please|1 When this virus decreases in severity at least I hope so we still have alot to do Ill be thirlled to see deaths and infections shrink The world can move on start preparing for a possible return It will also be goddamn hilarious when all the doomer subs have biz level of financial panic because they spent all their money on gold and canned beans|0 I know it seems very stressful but as of right now it does sound like the school has their shit together I would have her stay inside wash hands use masks and stay away from others If things get dire she can leave Do you know how to get her money quickly Then she could leave Otherwise it sounds too risky Id imagine hotels that are normally options may not be right now So unless you feel 100 confident you can get her south Or onto a plane quickly that things wont change have her stay|0 This is the most number of upvotes Ive ever given in a single post And Im not even half way done Gotta love Reddit|1 Thats bad No change with the increase of cases to thi policy|0 Yeah my stepsons district is making it clear that absence will not be excused This is in santa clara county|1 First of all why isnt there a subreddit dedicated to Coronavirus questions I cant post a question in rCoronavirus rCOVID19support or here Thats just bananas IMOPosting in a thread with so many comments means this question will probably just get buried Its also a good thing I checked my inbox because apparently an earlier version of this comment was removed because it featured an image that was hosted on Reddit I mean come onOh well here goes What is better for getting rid of the Corona virus on surfaces soap or alcohol ThishttpsiimgurcomPsK7VkBjpg cool guide shows you how soap destroys the virus but what about alcohol|1 I think that despite some of the bad papers it was more prudent to get information to doctors than to hold off for months for peer review|0 Youre absolutely right Ive had far too many people tell me that the government must know what theyre doing and basically to blindly trust them and not worry about anythingIts utterly bizarre when you see things like people being mocked for wearing masks on public transport I can understand making the decision that you dont think it necessary to wear one yourself but actively harassing others for making a different choice just because its unusual in our culture Very depressing|0 WTF are we Germany handing out mask production machines if we dont have enough masks ourselves|0 Interesting as in super shitty most definitely yes|1 Youd be surprised to know how many think like this|1 Wife is a Matron in a London hospital theres been nothing said like that to her|0 Hows immunity to the flu working out for you|0 This guy is all over the thread making excuses for whatever PRC does Ignore him Just say OK Winnie the Pooh and be done with it|1 This is indeed upsetting news but do you think Chris Froome says his own name when he overtakes peopleFFFRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOME|0 Switch to hypochlorous acid Easy to make|1 Its been 4 months since i quit I did it because of fear mostly since i developed a variation of pneumony which resulted in interstitial pneumonia I feel much better now Edit smoked for 9 years 1520 cigsday|0 No|0 Heres the live feed Dr Duchin is the one who recommended social isolation httpsyoutubeqUKHECi7yCY|0 Worth it just for the sake of scientific development|1 No I would not I flew back through SeaTac from Hawaii yesterday and there appears to be nothing preventative in place I will not be traveling again for the foreseeable future If this had broken out like this before the trip I may not have gone|0 BTS fans do a lot of charity work and have a monthly campaign to donate to a different cause each month|1 Its already happening in New York Theyre doing a one mile containment zone in New Rochelle and theyll probably expand as things get worse|0 I want more people to be confirmed each day because its spreading no matter what If that number goes higher somebody in government might finally wake the fuck up and do something before we all have it|0 Surely the best case is to maintain an infection rate slightly below healthcare capacity noIf it goes above the limit you have to choose who lives and who dies If it goes far below the limit the economic consequences drag on much longer|1 I like it We didnt ask for this fucking plague|1 Haha its so funny were selling so much toilet paper to you idiots|1 I mean ideally youd get tested but personally id say 3000 iu is pretty safe and may help your general immunity|1 R0 is a bad concept at the start of these things when you must need understanding of the new|0 True But I cant quite shut down the voice pointing out what a practical solution the mortality profile of this disease happens to offer for politicians faced with the problems caused by shifting demographics and an aging population Clear out a percentage of the 65ers and suddenly pension systems look much healthierAnd as I understand it Japan is one of the countries most hit by such issues|1 Worse than that the second word of a quarantine comes out people will flock across the globe from the region In Wuhan most of the evacuation seemed to be to other regions of China correct|0 Even if wet markets had not caused it there is no denying that the Chinese governments initial silence at this outbreak caused the world much more harm than if they would have otherwise informed the public Sure China has a really dense population and its still a developing country but this disease would have never emerged if wet markets were regulated as they should have been Think of it like this There is a lot of potential for different diseases to emerge in China because of the factors you listed but without a spark nothing would happen Wet markets are exactly the spark needed to instigate these diseases They are literally petri dishes I dont think we should be pointing fingers right now But once this crisis ceases we should reevaluate our relationship with China|0 I dont disagree though Im not a fan of the whole StraussHowe thing What you have absolutely nailed is the combo of supply shock and demandside collapse Could get ugly out there and monetary policy will be basically useless were about out of ammo there anyway Fiscal policy is where wed need to go but that is always rough politically|0 Hell always be remembered for this regardless of what happens in his career moving forward This is what will come to mind when you hear his name Ron Artest changed his name and won championships but still people think of the Malice at the Palace when they think of him|1 No yer kidding me|0 Well I know a number of doctors here who work in hospitals They say that anyone with pneumonia symptoms gets automatically tested for coronavirus and none of them have had any patients test positive so far at the hospitals they work at They must be part of this Russian conspiracy too lying to me like that Ill be more careful around them|0 Crazy just shows no one is really running thingsSometimes its funny to imagine how things would be looked back on in future books or documentaries Especially after its determined how many high level people he goes on to infect|1 Even that seems to be low balling it hard|0 Oh but the Night King died and he didnt do much and how his death turned out was very unexpected Just like this coronavirus|0 Southern suburbs of the cities is hit hard with empty shelves No bread tp bottled water lots of can good gone Frozen pizza gone Its crazy out here Medical supply empty for certain things|0 Israel knows how things can go from bad to crazy|0 Do you know anyone who has been able to find a way out of the city after the roads were closed Stay safe and good luck getting through this|1 Roughly 48 of Chinese men smoke while only 2 of Chinese womenCovid19 appears to bind to the ACE2 receptor in the lower lungs Smokers have a higher chance of having ACE2 receptors expressed vs nonsmokers|0 Im no doctor 1 Disinfect all your shit Mobile phone keyboard door knobs 2 Wash your hands alot3 Try not to touch your face4 Eat healthy Exercise5 Have minimum contact with people I just did some math Im not sure how accurate the numbers are but I saw afew days ago that appox 80 of the UK could catch thisI read today that the fatality rate could be as high as 3Worst case scenario that is 15 million people I really hope ive got the wrong end of the stick here Because thats kinda fucking scary|0 all the numbers weve seen so far throughout the world have shown that younger populations are effected at a much lesser rate than older populations They arent immune but they are less severely sick and dying at dramatically lower rates I think we have a large enough sample size to make a decent assumption I dont see how there could be a sharp change in young people become severely sick andor dying|0 theres a million Theres a Jurassic park one a Walking Dead one etc etc|0 Im a tech at a hospital and I wouldnt be surprise if all the higher ups are seeing when they think of coronavirus which is why theyre all nonchalant about it Hospitals are banks The flu is still our top priority for now|0 I mightve been an exception but I will say call ahead if you are doing curbside pickup as it might be delayed I had mine delayed a full day at my local Kroger because of how busy they were|0 I think this problem may mostly take care of itself as I would think most of your clients will cancel Are you seeing high cancellation lower booking rates|0 Nice fantasy land youre living in mate In the real world were 40 years deep into neoliberal austerity hell There were 200000 new jobs last year and two million unemployed people to fill them Even people with STEM field degrees can be applying for a year before getting any work and rent and utilities are sky high We might be better off for ware if we didnt keep voting in the people who are practically giving our mineral wealth to the Yankees for peanuts|1 Yknow all those yucky fat losers who dont run marathons|0 Chief Rabbi Lau told everyone to stay home if theyre in quarantine or suspect they have the virus|0 It is no longer that important as we have moved from containment phase to delay phase that is what thl said this morning The virus is already among our community so the number of cases is only statistics now Delay is more important|0 Like what|1 OhhhI like this answer|1 Sorry Transferred from another Northern CA hospital httpswwwdavisenterprisecomlocalnewsnewlydiagnosedcoronaviruspatientbeingtreatedatucdavismedicalcenter|0 I dont think its going to hit home for most people until someone they know gets sick or a big celebrity|0 Yep Ive had to go shopping a few times as we keep running out and its been pretty busy |1 Most things are available but just in limited quantities My local shop has only run out of paracetamol so anything I do need I can grab from there easily enough Tomato paste and base ingredients like that we normally have a couple so we can make some concoction|1 First confirmed case of covid19 in North Carolina httpswwwwsoctvcomnewslocalpersonnorthcarolinatestspositivecoronavirusgovernorsofficeconfirmsISMDI6ZAZ5AMVFM626TJJEGUE4Welp We had a good run Lysols self like a War Boy from Mad Max Fury Road WITNESS ME|0 Death rate in Korea is 1|0 I was going to do the same thing if need be Smart|1 Do you have a source for your claims Not doubting but all the cases I read where they mentioned the number of times one person is being tested was 1|1 So you wanna tell me that Hydroxychloroquine was being selfprescribed at China an South KoreaYou wanna tell me that Hydroxychloroquine and all other drugs were not being given by doctors to the infected under medical supervisionWhere was I mistaken That this did not happen in an ICU What kind of ICU Cause at this crisis there are two kinds 1 those that are formal ICU were ICUs before the crisis and are at a hospital and 2 those that are being dubbed ICUs did not exist before the current crisis and may even be in a sports stadium Although the most likely scenario is to make all beds at a hospital ICUs and move the patients that do not require an ICU to the sport stadium made into a hospitalYou wanna talk about China I cant believe what they managed to do They made entire hospitals out of nothing At other countries we wont have that ability We will repurpose other facilities Are these ICUs for you They are for meYou wanna talk semantics Sure if you wanna talk semantics I will rephrase my comment If that is so damn important for you|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Elon Musks tweet is going to live with him for the rest of his lifeHe should get it stamped on his fucking dumb face as far as Im concerned|0 Good he needs a nice kick in the ass|1 Because most insulin for diabetics is modified to be longer lasting and have more stable effects The modifications are what is patented|1 Ok if we consider the research to be correct and the virus has been making its rounds this we make Washington the first true cluster and hot spot|1 What says these people actually had 10 grand to throw down on a tip Im surprised theyre eating at a basic southwestern grill restaurant these are the people that should be handing out money giving back to the people that really need it Cant take it with you Just imagine if every millionaire donated 1000000 to get divvied out|1 Most experts think were heading that way Some estimating a million deaths in America alone in the long run|0 There is a ton more support For Parents for businesses for tax reliefthis is good news|1 Check with your state Most will have a coronovirus page up by now All will say number of confirmed cases some will say how many have been tested some will say how many they are able to test a day The CDC was tracking but have said its too hard for them to keep up so they say check with your own state|0 Forgot I mentioned my parents in the post Used the exact same wording too Dont know how I didnt remember thatMakes me feel a bit better thanks Still wouldnt like to roll the dice but if they somehow do get it Ill keep that in mind Hopefully nearby hospitals dont get flooded if they do get it|1 You can literally just put a cop on each border crossing No military needed|0 My wife is a middleschool teacher doing her best to keep the room sanitized and trying to stay calm for the kids But she is scared and I am terrified for her and our household as her job is putting us all at a high risk She has over a year worth of sick days available and I am trying to convince her to use itI am praying that since our area and the state has active cases and already been declared a state of emergency that they will follow the other states that have already suspended public schools and call it I know closing schools will put parents at an imposition but I think schools are just an incubator for illness and kids going home will be putting older and compromised family members in a very dangerous situation|0 Yes but best of it doesnt happen all at once So dont take the fact that more or less everyone is going to get it as defeat or that theres no hope its just the reality we need to understand We can make a huge impact by doing our part to ensure it spreads as slowly as possible|1 Thanks for your hard work Ive been waiting for the wikipedia page to be updated with one of those charts If youre interested this is a very granular breakdown of the information httpscoronavirus1point3acrescomhttpscoronavirus1point3acrescom|1 China Oh no Why would Coronavirus do this|0 Or they lied about the numbers Who knows these days|0 Yes I have that study and a few others saved Sadly cant post them as they are automatically deleted |1 But cruise ships have a higher proportion of older people no|0 dictatorships whether communism fascism or monarchy may have its downfalls but its ability to unite and fight against a common enemy is very useful|0 To be fair WHO doesnt have the authority to make that suggestion nor can they actually make that recommendation and not get fired Think about it If their suggestion did prevent the pandemic people will come back and fire him because they think he disrupted the global economy because nothing happened Think about the Y2K bug As a programmer I know it doesnt crash planes but it did shut down entire chains of supermarkets and ATMs when the first 2000 expiry date cards came out because some systems would crash immediately They spent HUGE amount of money to prevent the problem and people think it was hyped Sorry it wasnt They fixed the problem It is a complete loselose decision that will never be made|1 Even setting medical risk aside the market is in a panic Seems like the president might give a speech|0 No people have started panic buying but until a few people sadly die that they know some peoples attitude wont changeThe world is in lock down and people cant grasp the severity of the situation|0 Good details on properties of 3M masks and respiratory protection Sometimes smaller particles are filtered better From the article In fact it is generally thought that airborne viruses are normally attached to other particles and rarely exist as naked organisms1 httpsmultimedia3mcommwsmedia409903Orespiratoryprotectionagainstbiohazardspdfhttpsmultimedia3mcommwsmedia409903Orespiratoryprotectionagainstbiohazardspdf|1 This should provide some solid data to help us get closer to a scientific consensus around the exact human impact on climate change One of the only positive things to come out of this pandemic|1 It is time to make food at home I was a waitress for years and it pains me to say this but restaurant workers are simply just fucked right now I hope they are able to get unemployment benefits or some kind of assistance from the federal govt here|0 That was in another state and those tests took like 3040 of the states supplyOne good thing that came from it was an understanding that if you take a group of people 100 UPS drivers 100 nurses 100 first graders that it will be present It stopped NBA games and contributed to a sea change in American sentiment Aside those with their heads in the sand or politicians telling you to support local restaurants Lets not hurt the working people of this country Fuck Devin NuesDont test dont know|1 Love it Could you force the provincial order to present itself West to East|1 Its good that people who can afford it are getting some extras so that they can ride out some of the situation by staying home limiting trips out into the community when and if they can do thisMy mind turns to low income people who dont have this option people who rely on that once a month trip to the food bank People who rely on public transportation People who still have to keep appointments for basic services for one reason or anotherIf the people who are stocking up for their own households now could spare some extra to donate to their local food bank maybe consider donating some funds imo that would be a possible way of paying it forward to the community|1 I havent smoked in about 20 days but thank you will keep that in mind Just hoping it goes away|1 My SO works at a long term care facility in a major US city as a nurse She brought up to her boss the corona virus about two weeks ago Her boss JUST TODAY STARTED making a plan on how to deal with it To top it off she was visibly annoyed when making it and told my SO she was annoyed that people were taking it seriously I wish I was joking|1 Fucking called it God damn the people who put this cretin in power should be fucking ashamed|0 you can hurry up and get hurt now if you are that worried|0 There are a lot of people partying right now this is addressing them I see them in my local bar every evening as I walk keeping a distance from everyone as I doYoure making this about something its explicitly not about|1 Everyone is prioritising chinas containment and banning travel from china but they are forgetting about japan and koreaThey did crap in world war 2 and now they are doing crap in containing a outbreak|0 Well why not just go ahead and make it 200 then|1 Ok so let me get this clear Trump supporters now selfidentify as liberals Even when they want to own the libs|1 Just curious what do they want homeless people to do who pretty much only have fast food as an option|1 There is no Epidemic in the USCurrent Administration|0 I feel you Im witholding donation atm bc of issues with the safety mechanisms as they stand Im NOT a clinician I try not to even play one on TV But I DO have family close to clinical labs I have friends that work in the field And being a donor myself Im naturally concerned I hope that smartercredentialedbetter educated people than me can get on it ASAP Ive read the new OSHA guidancehttpswwwoshagovPublicationsOSHA3990pdf and spoken to the people I know in the field No one seems very happy with the protections put into the wording except perhaps the centers themselves and theyre just parroting the party line at this point Its not codified Its really more of a suggestion from OSHA Part of the problem is that the response from the US government has been SO poor in every regard you have laypeople like me out here pouring through academic articles Im not credentialed or educated enough to fully process bc were doing EVERYTHING we can to inform ourselves Were trying to cope with major institutional failures in the midst of pandemic with scientifically vacuous people in charge I dont care what politics anyone has its simply not infusing the public with trust and we feel left to fend for ourselves Its frightening None of these things gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when Im expected to sit in a chair next to someone that may be asymptomatic and passed their low bar to entry Or that the workers themselves may infect me due to poorly instituted protocol and lack of PPE I understand how critical plasma and whole blood are I understand people will naturally be donating less while demand will be climbing due to complicationsHence my urgent tone This could become a real sticking point I want badly to be there for this|0 I have a family of six in a low income 3 bedroom apartment If i stocked up 4 weeks of goods i would be sleeping on it Wed have no room for people|0 Wrong thread|0 Laboratory developed testLaboratory developed test LDT is a term used to refer to a certain class of in vitro diagnostics IVDs that in the US were traditionally regulated under the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments programClinical Laboratory Improvement AmendmentsThe Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments CLIA of 1988 are United States federal regulatory standards that apply to all clinical laboratory testing performed on humans in the United States except clinical trials and basic research PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Claps with them in Washington DC as a show that our government is run by incompetent asshats|0 Dont think they allow testing of random people If they did I and probably others who feel sick would probably take part|0 This sounds like someone with a low IQ would sayDonning a mask is not rocket science|1 How do you handle hair Say you have to enter your home and before you do you need to decontaminate how do you handle your hair Sorry just trying to figure this out All the hand washing is going to be a pain but it IS important Also thank you so much for the tips|1 I guess being against fake news makes me a trump fan Gotta love how lying is ok as long as it makes you feel better|1 This is really amazing work Thank you so much Ill share it around here with my friends in Shanghai For those looking some additional context and inspiration on this a Chinese artist made a cartoon like this with Chinese foods that begun to circulate here in China httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsexa84krequestfulfilledugtowngamingaskedifsomeonehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsexa84krequestfulfilledugtowngamingaskedifsomeone|1 Lasagne for dinner woo hoo|1 Friedman was absolutely never a proponent of UBI and certainly wouldnt ever be for the reason you described His proposal of a negative income was as a measure of practicality to eliminate government welfare programs that act as middleman He absolutely wasnt in favor of those welfare programs to begin with he just wanted to try and eliminate even more government waste by way of administrative overhead|0 Oh man thats a tough spot Unfortunately shes going to see better than any of us what this is Good luck hopefully she figures it out in time to not get it Survival rate are still very high for 50|1 How long will the whole Problem last Maybe even for years|0 I wish everyone had your mentality I have a coworker that is going to Oregon next weekend Im legitimately concerned she may bring it back to our workplace|1 Yea honestly I was all for social programs but living in NYC has jaded me a bit 40 of my salary is gone AND I still pay for health insurance Im trying to move to FL where my friend makes 10K less than me a year but brings home close to 1000 more every 2 weeks|1 LameIm going looting when the chaos starts|0 Useless information narky attitudes and uncooperation are just as damaging as irrational fear in this situation Both waste everyones time to treating the issues and as you have shown the coronavirus hasnt meant that all other medical worries have disappeared Theyre still just as important|0 Theoretically if you test positive you go into quarantine and they start contact tracing which helps them find everyone else who might be infected Even if there is no cure we still need to provide healthcare for those afflicted Testing gives us the data for a how many are infected and b how many will get infected so that the hospital system can prepare and redirect resources to reduce deathsMany people can survive without severe symptoms Some people will get severe symptoms Of those many might survive if they get help from the hospital eg ventilator to help them breathe The problem is this will infect so many people that the number who need hospitals outnumbers the available needs and equipment so and information that can help direct countermeasures helps So getting tested and being able to get a test helps saves lives|1 Thank you fellow number lover One of the hard aspects of this situation is effective communication of the numericalstatistical concepts|1 Even if most hospitals had the ability to test they dontHow do you explain this httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191Quote A rapid nucleic acid amplification test NAAT for influenza A and B was negative|0 This is Shenzhen area code 0755 Both cities have many residents like this guy Not everyone in China is dog eating savage|0 He wakes up rubs his eyes today we are tax free boys Get me my robes and line up the choir boys s|1 Very wise words Its a bit jarring coming from someone with a username of spikeyfreak I guess that is the nature of reddit|1 I guess I always imagined this movieesque deployment of CDC special ops teams highly trained and competent professionals that were there to minimize the risk to the public The reality is so different No action no preparedness No sense of urgency or even concern My doctor has issued exactly one notice via the web portal and it was to ask people to come to an open house I am really disturbed by the USs apparent lack of any and everything|0 Strange times indeed I feel we live in a mix of Brave New World and 1984|1 Still better than current way of thought in terms of understanding why older people fare worse most of elderly have abnormal microbiota as they often are on prescribed anti inflammatories or antibiotics|0 If he played it as his Forest Gump character hed still be smarter than Trump|1 They could easily freeze property tax payments utility bill payments etc too I have been saying all debt and payable obligations should be suspended for at least 3060 days That covers everyones bills to everyone else so there shouldnt be anyone in jeopardy|0 Is it really the mefirst Americanism that will doom the outcome of this pandemic or is it the extreme lack of testing by the government the expensive medical costs associated with getting tested the inability of hospitals to supply masks to their workers or the inability for most Americans to take time off of work if sick|0 Just think about the whole IRANUSA show almost WW3 and just like that it went away like nothing ever happened In retrospect it makes more sense|1 Dont insult purple like that please|1 Absolutely nothing surprises me about this guy anymore and I take absolutely nothing for granted anymore Its in his best interests to contain the virus and lock down 2 weeks ago then he could say he did a great job of handling it but Trump is too corrupt and short sighted to care about anything other than his buddies making money on the stock market|1 Naw Look at the Rodney King riots No one shot at the military during curfew then No one is going to want to go up against a big scary looking soldier decked out in armor and a gun Theyre stay inside and grumble on social media|0 I run our own business from home And I hate to say it but our earnings will only continue to go up as the coronavirus escalatesI have a history of septic shock where my lungs were barely hanging on I know the feeling of drowning in bed not to mention the years of recovery Ive been self isolating for weeks|0 httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001316httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001316Article on Transmission Data from WuhanEDIT Actually scrap that link httpswwwatsjournalsorgdoipdf101164rccm2014P7httpswwwatsjournalsorgdoipdf101164rccm2014P7I like this one better We are looking at mixed precautions in a nosocomial setting Airborne and Droplet are currently in effect This means that Coronavirus transmits via aerosols while the dangerous part pneumonia transmits via droplets hence the mixed precautions|1 Its even more difficult to know who has a very mild case when it can be mistaken as a cold or a flu or bronchitis since the symptoms are so similar And since were in the middle of flu season those people will probably recover just fine without even reporting it|0 Sorry I have to down vote you both because Im trying to jerk my dick off to peoples fear Everyone be afraid 500 million people are gonna die trust me Im a redditor|0 Many doctors are members of the CCP Its a political party not an alien group Theres one Xi Jinping and 90 million others The overwhelming majority are just regular people|1 Wow The stereotypical bullshit going on in this thread is making me sick Were supposed to be allies|0 The price on the item or shelf is an invitation to treat there is no legal way you can force any company to sell you anything if money has not changed hands If the till says its 5 but the shelf says it 4 theres nothing you can do to force them Its not nice to do this but they are warning you beforehand so theres nothing you can do and its perfectly legal|1 Nature is fighting back|0 Slowly and gently wipe down each leaf on every plant in your house with a damp cloth removing any builtup dust and grime Exhale your carbon dioxide all over those suckers and theyll soak it all in and feel loved Edited to remove mention of viruses to keep this a gentle comment |1 I dont believe that this virus can spread among Turks they have a heck of a immune system ill believe it only if I see it with my own eyes but still Id bet on the Turks than the virus lets see iyi olan kazansin xD|1 Yes many many reports I myself never get the flu but was sitting in front of a guy coughing on a plane leaving denver just before the end of the year 3 days later got the chills fatigue and a huge feverdry cough and by then had given it to 2 people at work Lasted over 2 weeks My gf is 24 and only had a slight sore throat for a few days I wish I had gotten tested for the flu Probably was just the flu but there is a lot of reports like this this year and it would be surprising if it hadnt gone global by a very small degree by mid december|1 Yeah where did that one come from|1 The government is taking this as serious as they do with other matters in other words not at allTheyre playing with public health and people stay feeling the pressure and panic Fewer people gather in touristy spots less people having out many companies including mine allowing remote masks sold out everywhere making sick peoples unable to find masks etc |0 This sounds fake|0 Thats the scary part your last sentenceIf we cant slow the rate of infection down before hospitals run out of ventilators and icu beds it is not going to be a fun timeAlso as I dont believe doctorsnurses hospital staff have switched to working in hazmatdecontamination suits yet we have to cross our fingers we dont lose healthcare workers to the virus|1 First Im no Trump fanIts always about the stock market and the economy with this administrationIs literally the parent comment of this thread|0 Hey you forgot us here in Philippines 3 to 100 confirmed cases but we just have 2k test kits so who knows Most of the country going on lock down as of tomorrow My guess about 200 ICU beds for 100m population masks suits and meds will run out almost immediately infected people being sent to leper sanitorium typical jail cells hold 200 inmates with not enough room for all to lie down at the same time And you guys are worrying about rimming out of toilet paper Lol|0 This is just a hunch but I think theyre going to test all the NBA players and a small production crew When they know theyre clear theyll play games with no fans Just for TV|1 Interesting paper It seems as though the peaks in mortality attributed to influenza have been of concern for Italy Its possible that a spike in influenza has coincided with this new Coronavirus which would contribute to the overload of hospitalsPlausible hypotheses regarding the determinants of the observed excess deaths attributable to influenza in Italy especially in the old population ie 65 are i meteorological factors low and high temperatures ii seasonal influenza circulating virus strains and iii the amplitude of the at risk population pools of elderlyAs well I havent heard much discussion about the pools of elderly in Italy As weve seen this virus spreading through clustered elderly population eg a nursing home can be quite devastating and Id imagine would cause a significant surge in hospitalization rates|0 1st point how would that guidelines is any different from others in Asia2nd even if patients being found out early why would the high number of patients not overwhelmed the system Thats the biggest mystery There is no reason to suggest that South Korea medical system can handle all those active of cases at once3rd less new number of cases just simply means less peope not yet infected within the group identified as being infected At some point the peak will naturally come Especially considering the general attitude towards the disease in Asia|1 Agree The Phillipines reports a 33 mortality but they only have reported 3 cases with one death I dont think anyone believes this is the true rate More likely is that there are other undiagnosed cases that are currently undetected|0 Yes it should|1 Those numbers above for H1N1 are only for 272 patients not for the entire epidemic I dont think any flu outbreak has required 20 of cases to be hospitalized with a large percentage entering ICUsThis could swamp even South Korea Iran could face a dire situation soon|0 its not the mortality rate thats scary its how many people that will get the disease is scary and getting the disease is scary because there is no drug for it and people will have to stay home and cant work or go to school|0 They should still set up independent testing stations so people can know if they have it That way they can atleast be ready to treat people if the symptoms get worse It seems like people are going to wait to the last minute to get tested this way and we will end up with more critical cases|1 Do they live there full time or is this more like a vacation cabin Do they already have it fully stockedI was thinking about this last night something Id like to do|1 Probably gonna want the saw too|1 Exactly people are already panicking Id feel more at ease if everything was closed and it was a ghost town I dont need to work around possibly sick people Screw that Yet people are all basicly cuddling together while they hoard things passing the virus along|0 As grateful as I am for my current job and career I kinda miss the cool days of working at a small retail store and blowing my 110 paycheck on videogames rentals and junk food|1 Floridian here I have friends at the beach right now These are all recommendations and precaution besides the restauraunts and bars measure which Im still driving past open restaurants We need firm mandatory action we cant seem to grasp how public health and freedom are inherintly intertwined|1 No gas stations will remain open And people is allowed to move for fueling their car|0 I cannot even begin to fathom the fear you are feeling for your children I am 30 and do not have children I can however empathize with you about ailing parents and grandparents My mother is in remission from colon cancer and my stepdad who I love and treasure like my own father has the beginning stages of emphysema My grandmother is 80 and she is also very ill The thought of losing everyone I love terrifies me It has terrified me so much so that I have had to go back on my anti anxiety meds just to cope Praying for you and your entire family during these troubling times Sometimes you must step away from the computerphonetelevision just to rest your mind It all gets to be too much sometimes you know|0 Cool except you dont know what is not premature until its too late In this case too late means millions dead worldwide|0 Their are no police where I live 35 sheriffs for 30k people rural international flight l hub is 45 min away|0 Chinese billionaire to step in where the US government cant Sad times indeed|1 please visit my subcommentscriticisms are welcomethankshttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf5igf1covid19anevidencebasedpossiblestrategyforhttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf5igf1covid19anevidencebasedpossiblestrategyfor|1 Jeez that positive rate is crazy comparing to korea|1 I havent seen any change tbh Im not in offices so maybe the more people you gorup together the more people hear stuff and get scared I visit multiple supermarkets a day and noo back door staff shoppers seem overly worried It all still seems like a bit of a joke to people|0 Unless you have a deep freeze they rot too easily and arent really worth the hassle|1 Half a billion dollars in catastrophe bonds held by the World Bank will have to pay out if pandemic is declared|0 Can only sticky 2 posts at a time so mods have been cycling through the important ones|1 Keep calm play into the government get preppedDont cause panic You have all the reason in the world to cause panic but it wont help youBuy water in bulk canned food trash bags cleaning supplies Get prepared|0 That sub has gone down hill sadly Too many posts on politics and complaining about it and not enough actual information on what is going on with the virusI find myself coming here for actual information and not having to worry about anything else really|0 This is a wake up call for businesses to learn that they can not just rely on one supplier and need to diversify their manufacturing and supply chain portfolios This will help businesses in the long run avoid these types of complications and will loosen the stranglehold that China has been able to wield its influence on businesses and other countries by necessity We will never be able to cut China out entirely but lessening the amount we rely on then will have profound effectsI am sorry to hear about your company Small companies have to rely on those quick orders for turn around profit to eventually become larger and be able to weather conditions like these Best of luck to you|1 No of course not but this isnt a political debate plus thats not what Im saying Im just ranting emphasising frustration I mean come on tho mate to still be calling it just a stupid flu you have to be pretty thick No time to worry about disrespecting people that cant take a global pandemic even slightly seriously|0 Its that damn Loch Ness Monster|0 I read that Washington has had 9 deaths looking for the source nowETA Apparently they just confirmed the 10th death in Washingtonhttpswwwmsncomenusnewsuswashingtonstateconfirms10thcoronavirusdeatharBB10KE9J|0 lmao doomerfag|1 Shit That might actually work|0 It is a good point that the cruise ship population is not representative different nationalities probably more wealthy people on a cruise etc And also those people may have yet to develop symptomsHowever that estimate is a lot better than the 1 from that study which specifically is the percent of diagnosed cases which were asymptotic not the percent of infections which were asymptotic As the paper says As of the end of February 18 2020 China hasa current crude CFR of 26 However the total number of COVID19 cases is likely higher due to inherent difficulties in identifying and counting mild and asymptomatic cases Furthermore the stillinsufficient testing capacity for COVID19 in China means that many suspected and clinically diagnosed cases are not yet counted in the denominator|1 Please talk to a lawyer as this seems like a constructive dismissal Your state case law would be most important in this type of case|1 The ratio is def not as good as countries like Germany83 Japan 134 but China already has a better ratio 42 than countries like the US29 Canada 27 Australia 38 as of 2012 Source httpsdataworldbankorgindicatorSHMEDBEDSZSend2015start2015viewbarThis is not to say the ratio is good enough there is def room for improvement but for a country that has such a big population and such large underdeveloped areas I would say its pretty good Therefore I still think the reason for the hospital situation is due to the different system to arrange to get treatment walk ins instead of reservation how people go to the hospital for smaller things universal healthcare cheap treatment medicine|1 My point still stands though yours too infection and deaths and hopefully overall impact will be relatively modest compared to Italy IF the curve stays|1 Hospitalizations ICU admittance and deaths are also intrinsically all easier to detect than moderate or mild cases Often there would also be a time delay as a more serious case might prompt testing of contactsfamily membersAlthough South Korea seems to be ahead of the curve using very aggressive and proactive testing criteria|1 Sounds like an interesting meal|1 It makes the numbers look better Look how little infections we had and how many we caught at the airport coming in from FOREIGN countries|1 Who cares if you believe it Only the wearer knows where the shoes pain|0 Id like to add an update to this Florida did not move or change our primary elections I just went and voted and mark my words theres going to be a huge influx of cases in Florida now If the other voting locations handled this the same way as mine they didnt handle it They did nothing to take any extra precautions at all|1 She doesnt have to be wuhan native to be stuck in wuhan rn though OP sounds aussie probably back in wuhan visiting family for CNY|0 Very recently I had to cancel an order from a company that makes thermographic cameras because they kept pushing the ship date repeatedly This was happening since the order was made the last week of 2019 and I suspect now it is a manufacturing disruption due to the coronavirusThe knockon effects on the economy is scary|0 Would universal healthcare cover this if you lie to convince your doctor to prescribe it|1 A lot of people are skeptical that this was entirely due to the virus The show has been having an identity crisis for years and was due to make major changes this year most of which were met with scathing reactions from the press and commentators And theres evidence of major turmoil behind the scenes to boot I wouldnt be surprised if the ESA decided this was an excuse to skip a year and come up with a more long term strategy|0 Thats good to hear I guess all the complaining and news articles on the working conditions got to the higher ups lol Please stay safe and take care of yourself|1 Lmao that is absolutely insane|1 Yes I know antibiotics dont work for virus but our dr said bronchitis|1 Yes we should all be wearing masks but not masks needed for medical professionals You can make reasonably effective masks out of old T shirts as described herehttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle126pdfs051468pdf|1 I am mind blown at how many people are posting snap chats and pictures of neing out partying for st Patricks day Is anyone else mind blown I am starting to feel crazy|1 Tencent leaked their horrific numbers some days ago|0 Its really sad ive been working in the nhs coronavirus advise line and were not allowed to transfer people to get tested and when we do get permission they usually wait from 15min up to even 4h and nhs doesnt even pick up so its just horrible thinking you cant help people or children all because the government is trying to cut costsLets hope this gets better soon|0 I wish I could shut everyone in Unfortunately we are powerless to the powers that be and we have no choice other than to keep calm and carry on until were told otherwise I dont hold much faith in our government|0 Coverage by publicly financed health insurance is nearuniversalexceeding 95 percent of the population since 2011Copay costs are mostly all for prescription drugs Its nothing like America which like medicare only covers old people and disabled peopleIts kinda a weird hybrid system like everything in China but not really as weird as USA|0 If youre a single mum with 3 kids then there are plenty of other benefits that will mean you wont be living on 100 a week|1 This channel is one of the best math channels on YouTube Im glad more people are finding out about it|1 In Canada we have a pretty comprehensive Quarantine Act Passed in 2005in response to SARS Is there anything similar in the US that allows quarantine to be legally enforced Large fines and potential jail time for those who disregard quarantine|1 The whole going away and coming back thing is what makes me truly believe its corona Everyone here is complaining of the same symptom and tons of people online and across the Us Never in my entire life have I had a cold like this that feels this shitty but also comes back Best wishes to you and your family I hope you all make a safe recovery|1 Its business as usual in the construction industry too Like Ive had to lock myself in my office due to sending drivers out to town neighborhoods to drop trusses off some that have had recent cases for testing positive Yes they have done a lot to step up precautions here as far as no outside venders coming in Trucks dropping off only handing paperwork out the window Lots of wipes and sprays etc But the amount of places they stop and eat Espically in these neighborhoods Its already in this town in Nebraska Yet out production lines are full but segmented breaks but people here are not taking it seriously Had many people coming in caughing and looking worse for ware and I just dont open my door anymore Whos going to be buliding and buying these homes Is there somewhere else I can go to stress how unsafe this is Wheres the line to stop I feel like I should tell someone but no one takes it serious here|0 Im more upset about DeBlasio going to the gym a few miles out of the way from his commute to city hall the outrage|0 I am sure he is in a long line of political figures who used media and false information to garner votes My statement wasnt political or religious in nature I meant it from a humanist perspective Be well fellow human|1 Right Global epidemic on our doorstep but you better be at court for going 2mph over the speed limit|1 Its hilarious to me here in NYC that my friends are still going out to nightlife events and group dinners So many people have their heads in the sand|1 Data shows that survival after 105 is a basic 5050 random coin flip Once you hit that age its all luck whether you make it to the next year|1 Dont get me wrong but they were profiting from us for a long time nowall that money went to ceos and shareholdersthe flight conditions are getting lower and lowerpeople will be affected by thisbut heywake the fuck up|0 My GT 720 started crying|0 UCSD medical center is one of the top research hospitals in the world I hope they can make good use of this case and help to usher breakthrough in vaccinetreatment of this virus|1 Okay Im kidding|1 The suspicious xray result was according to his more detailed post on rde slightly elevated radiotransparency around the lung periphery ie nothing conclusive certainly nothing tangibly medically relevant and more of a slight anomaly than anything truly suspicious|0 Nice post I live in a red state where unfortunately most still think its a mild flu It just hit here and we are in for it |0 Im in sort of an opposite situation was looking at apartments until recently and Im still organizing the move My current apartment is being shown so Ive got strangers coming in and out Obviously it sucks that I have to be out and about in the city but just stay home isnt really possible when home has a looming expiration date|0 yes 47 are with symptoms in hospital 8 in ICU 8 recovered 5 deadIts really sad Less than 3 weeks ago there were only 3 cases reported Corona was some stuff on the tele You went to work had your normal problems lived your normal life and 19 days later you wake up the economy is collapsing half the country is quarantined thousands of people are infected with this disease from the tele WTF|0 Or they go to work and spread it to everyone because their boss is more concerned about feeling in control of people than productivity and safety|1 Well shit Im on an estrogenblocking med Tamoxifen to avoid recurrence of breast cancerFuck this virus|0 if they go drive thru only those stores are probably gonna close unless theyre like the franchised grocery store ones that Starbucks technically doesnt run|1 Ya that may change after NYC demands Well see|1 Person claims to be a nurse which should let everyone know her opinions are not to be trusted I went through nursing school they dont know as much as they think they do This is probably a fake account tho|0 90 of Chinas factories are not operational China is only shipping at 10 capacity which means that in two to four months from now everything thats made in China will be disappearing from store shelves Which also includes medication which 80 to 90 of medical supplies are made in China Right around the time that we start seeing supplies disappearing from store shelves will be right around the time that we start seeing the virus spread throughout the country So not only will we take a gut punch from China economically punishing us for relying on them but the knockout punch will come from ourselves when we are too sick to manufacture anything and to go to work|0 How is trump not dangerous Just days ago he was telling people that they could go to work if they had the Coronavirus trump has known since December this was coming but did he prepare America with getting enough Corona virus tests no he didnt Because of that its going to spread more quickly killing more innocent people But youre worried that Biden wont surround himself with good people ask yourself has trump surrounded himself with good people by firing all of the expert pandemic scientist in United States government|1 It might help kill virus in the secretions lining your upper airway but not deep in your lungs and inside your body Your core body temperature doesnt go up more than a tiny bit otherwise youd die in the sauna|0 People need purposeLet em believe it worked what harm is that doing|0 Although the sicker boomers would potentially be more profitable for a privatised health industry|1 Yesterdays numbers were699 total deaths4188 in serious condition1007 in critical condition|0 US should negotiate to buy some of those test kits from China Seriously|0 The isopropyl is for cleaning resin 3d prints and electronics so its not a very exciting project Im afraid Ordering 10 liters of 99 isopropyl on amazon was about the same cost as buying a 1 liter bottle locally at least if I wanted 99As for the water our tap water is pretty high quality but Im not sure about the mineral contents Since I plan to build a water cooling rig for my gaming computer I might go ahead and buy some deionizeddistilled water Ill have a use for it soon enough either wayMy curiosity right now is because Im a prepperlite as a friend of mine like to call it I dont go fullblown tilfoil hat nutcase but I like to be prepared in case something happens Its come in handy more than a few times as Im always the one with a towrope in my car or a firstaid kit in my luggageAnyway thanks for the writeup Its really good to know even though Ill hopefully never have to use it |1 Oh my sweet summer child|1 Holy shiii thats terrible He is just sitting there by himself I had a Gma die from cancer its terrible stuff Prayers to you and your family|0 I was talking with one of my professors yesterday who is an infectious diseases pharmacy specialist and he said that if a critical shortage of healthcare workers occurs which it will they can start looking at healthcare professions students nursing pharmacy medicine etc for a labor pool I am a pharmacy student Maybe its time to negotiate a raise with my hospital employer haha|0 You really dont have a better case study than the DP Other than it skewing older than the general pop|0 A ten pack of dustmasks will make no difference either to him or the doctor|0 First it was 05 then 2 then 5 now people are saying 10They just pull these numbers straight from their ass Like they actually walk around thinking that 10 will die that would mean maybe 20 million americans dead Yea no|0 Thanks for this this virus is not nothing but people are acting like its the second coming of the Black Plague or Spanish flu i fear the panic and economic impact far more than the virus it self at this point|0 Things are moving quickly dont plan that far ahead Im pretty sure you wont be going back to school next week|1 Considering the virus is pretty similar to SARS you can expect similar health problems especially for people who have had to be treated at the hospitalhttpswwwnaturecomarticless4141302000845|1 Yea there are two The other doctor sick is this guy being reported here httpstwittercomFYangEPstatus1236723843097649154s20|0 So Vote third party Pretty obvious itll be Trump versus Bernie unless the Democratic party shoots themselves in the face again|1 Yeah your not wrong|1 Its called survival of the smartest and best preparredIf they refuse to hear and actLet nature do what it may with them|1 The company I work for has enacted a policy of if you have cold or flulike symptoms stay home You will not get any attendance points or be required to provide a doctors note We can use our PTO and Medical Leave to keep getting paid Our PTO accumulates pretty rapidly and our paid medical is something like 3 months They are doing it on the honor system knowing full well that people will take advantage but still doing it They started this about a month ago For context it is a tribal casino which employees around 70 of our county as well as some of the surrounding area I work in armed security but we have employees ranging from builders to hotel staff and our own EMTs|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Their Computer Science textbook on the Haskell programming language is a good one Herehttpswwwcambridgeorgcorebooksprogramminginhaskell8FED82E807EF12D390DE0D16FDE217E4 Edited added link|1 Lady on my floor came out of her apartment stood next to me to hit the button for the elevator and then decides to start coughing I just laughed and side stepped But she was just oblivious|1 Wow Understandable but still surprising|1 removed is by mods deleted was he himself backpedalingtrying to save his internet points|1 Youre welcome Stay safe|1 amazing job sir|1 And whats scary is that if the random people theyve encountered come down with this they will likely not be tested for it and assumed to have influenza or something else Only people with direct connections are being tested and I worry that others will be missed|0 Really want to know about this and why disinfecting the floor daily if not going outside|1 I posted this info on a Kakao group chat Im in and the first reaction was asking if you were Chinese and when I said you were American they dismissed it and went back to dissing the government for mishandling the situation without losing a step I seriously wish some of the people here realize how shitty healthcare is around the world I guess if you have no point of comparison its difficult to understand what you take for granted isnt a given somewhere else I just had surgery here in Korea and had I the same procedure two years ago in America the hospital bill alone would have bankrupted my familySending good vibes your way Hope you have a comfy couch and Netflix or something Stay safe|1 While number is alarming its worth noting the majority 98 cases is still in Westchester county Oddly meaning NYC doesnt have more cases NYC only has 19 cases as of now httpstwittercomNYGovCuomostatus1237035701369176065s19|1 Yeah but still important to do it for people who are in contact with so many like them Then if they are positive all the people in contact can self isolate|1 My wife and I want to have our first baby later this year but this has me scared|0 One country is still not infected high|1 idk its weird to see so many people outside ohio praising this response when they arent living it|1 Not going to lie the thought crossed my mind that I already have PTSDmight as well go and find a way to volunteer and help to try to help minimize the mental damage to othersI have kids and am in a highrisk group though so its not really an option Id probably just end up taking up a ventilator or being given morphine|1 Youre missing the pointHealthy 20 yr old gets it severely and is on a ventilator probably lives like very very probable70 yr old gets it severely and is on a venti oh wait nevermind not enough ventilators Death sentence|0 Apple would certainly bring some innovation to the airline industry thats for sure|1 its a choice they made early on to not overload the testing facilitiesNo point in getting people tested just to jerk off on CFR numbers imoI prefer they use the economic resources to support the hospitals fighting this rather than having to increase the budget to testing facilities|1 Nah you know what man your right We should encourage this behavior and absolutely nothing should happen for someone making light of a pandemic killing people Lets do it your way|0 The airlines never confirmed what establishments she went to There literally is no source Ill apologize if you can prove me wrongIt was also stated on the korean news it is a rumor and it isnt confirmedWhether its true or not the restauraunt would have to take precautions Think about it|0 Its about to be we are at 517 confirmed cases 124 growth from yesterday The problem is they wont test us We are our worse enemy and no one is reporting it|0 I was wondering about this Someone told me that due to the pandemic declaration banks and businesses are forced to do this But Im not sure dont quote me Im just glad theyre doing it|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and source your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thats exactly what the article says along with cancellation of passenger flights making delivery more difficult a fair amount of mail is delivered via unused cargo space on passenger flights|0 Trust if I was the only one who saw it I wouldnt be getting uovotedI saw an entire discussion thread in this post which is why I made the comment|1 So a situation like this is the result of a pound of cure that an ounce of prevention would have made a huge differenceBut that ounce of prevention might have impacted stock prices and left the unimaginably wealthy merely incredibly wealthy What are you A commie|1 Please tell me its not Sarasota|1 Trump logic Why do you need such a useless team which will not be used in my term Rather pass on those savings to big corporations via tax cuts so that we can have all time high stocks|0 I would much rather get 2000 a month than have a halt on my mortgage Surely most people dont have a 2000 mortgage|1 Denver has portable drivethrough testing setup downtown Really proud of some organizations responses really upset with others|1 Cancel everything Thats such a dumb idea The US economy would literally grind to a halt AND wed be in another Great Depression Smh|0 they better not open it again like idiots|1 Ok cool I say reading from my classroom In a school near Seattle|1 How do you calculate the death rate for the preexisting condition age groupLike whats the death rate for a 50 year old with diabetes or a 40 year old with hypertensionDo you add the two figures together or multiply them|0 more like feelings armed with guns|1 Id love to start making my own masks what fabric was suggested for use Im already bugging in but have so much fabric scraps maybe Ill have the right material Also I found breathing in through my nose and out through my mouth yogastyle helps with fogging|1 Right because there are a bunch of super conservatives there that listened to Trump spewing nonsense up until yesterday Now they arent paying attention because he told them it was ok|1 taking what modern news people say without skepticism is the very lowest level of independent thinking by that i mean if youre not already doing that you are an actual lemming these are cable news theatre companies that literally pay sexed up attractive people to create chaos and keep people watching|0 3 weeks ago I was stocking up and some of the grocery store staff were obviously talking shit about me Went in 2 days ago for some extra things and it was like thunderdome|0 You can periodically get a 90 day supply here but its based on the medication insurance and pharmacy providernever not complicated in the US with medical insurance Thanks for the tip|1 The Dow will go down again and further than before No worries|0 To the extent that the tests were actually being conducted thats great But if the team was given special priority over others to receive the tests then thats balls We need to be testing so much more in every state Why cant our leaders recognize that testing and identification for early treatment and triage is what protects our hospitals from being overrun S Korea I think is doing it right|1 Good folk Do get masks if you could Some of my local Safeway cashiers started to wear masks already|1 Something does not add up here you need to inhale enough of the virus that it can actually bind to those receptors deep in the lungs but touching your face you can get infected|0 My 50 yo neighbor told me on Saturday this is overblown and proceeds to go eat out in a busy restaurant My kid loves to play with his kids so its going be really hard when were supposed to stay away to tell my kid not to play with them because I have 0 faith they are doing everything they can|1 God damn Good luck Italy Dark dark days I dont believe in god but god speed and god bless your families|1 increased antigen drift rateMy guess is the virus is so infectious and successful at destroying the lungs in some patients that the number of copies being generated are several orders of magnitude greater than other infectious agents Even if the rate of surface protein mutation is the same as other viruses ncov simply has more opportunities to mutate Which makes it even more important to get this under control If we were to let it burn through the population hoping herd immunity will develop we may just invite another wave And that means any country that doesnt take this serious is a threat to the entire world|1 And Florida promoted him to Senator|1 Thats exactly what Im worried about since I get seasonal allergies Everything else bring it on Im ready But having to take 1014 days off if you get the sniffles and cant get tested Ick Not enough sick leave in the world My thought is just stack up on mucinex and Vitamim C and chug that shit down and hope it helps|1 No rational person puts the blame on the average Wuhan citizen for this tragedy Seeing the massive influx of medical and support personnel is aweinspiring a 1000 bed hospital was built in a matter of days which is incredible Its unfortunate that this event has happened before and at this point I believe the state council of the PRC is squarely at fault After SARS how were these open air unregulated exotic meat markets allowed to continue operating Will they be allowed to reopen so we can revisit this sub after the next outbreak|0 Basically I admitted I was wrong if i wasnt clear Not everyone gets pneumonia I was wrong and did not claim that with authority as indicated by my question mark I have a lot of numbers in my head Also provide a source for your numbers please|0 50 invisible vectors is for one terrifying but it would also explain something about the apparently SHIT BALLS HIGH level of infectivity especially in areas with a persistent communal spread and unknown sourcesI have also personally had the idea that this contaminates an environment very heavily due to a potentially long surface persistence and a slow but very steady viral shed which is also why it takes weeks to even develop concerning symptoms like pneumonia in the lower respiratory tract This slow burn may even have something to do with symptom index depending on efficiency of immune response as well as false negative results It would prefer indoor environments but likely also has some level of UV resistance|0 im not sure its the health of its citizens the priority i think Israel feels catching a pandemic could give the opportunity to neighbours to attack|0 Yeah i work in Mail Fuck me right|0 Jagmeet is in hiding I mean self isolation too|0 Thats what I saidwhich means its probably been a pandemic for a while nowNo It was just recently declared a pandemic but Ill even say it was a pandemic before that so mid February Pandemic statusIm going to just let this go This thread has been exhausting Agree to disagree Stay safe|0 While Im completely on board with the SK testing regime it has far more 65 than South Korea and it is this age group that is disproportionately hot by the disease Unless you adjust for age disparity these numbers are meaningless|0 Lmao do you get your free headaches then|1 Its pretty fucked up If I wake up in the night my first thought isnt to go back to sleep but to check if anything new has been posted in the how many hours I was sleeping This then causes me to read and read and before do know it its time for work and Im WRECKED from not sleeping that night The sad thing is it happens most nights I cant wait for it to be over|0 Actually USA is ranked 1 in pandemic preparedness because of their superior health care system LOL All of the BS talking points from the right Im American and I live in Europe Ive been in both systems There is no comparison The US is screwed but some are just too stupid to know it others are paid to spout BS and most realize our system is fucked|0 If you have any sort of symptoms or if youve traveled outside the country you should be isolating yourself at home for 14 days Were not going to give you a fucking pony if you test positive for the virus Do your part|1 Like Woodrow Wilson who tried to mask Spanish Flu Trump would make a great case to promote awareness as well as demonstrate effects|1 Given recent medical findingshttpssciencesciencemagorgcontentearly20200313scienceabb3221 that number is likely more like around 10000 right now Most of them walking around with barely a sniffle and infecting people willy nilly STAY THE FUCK HOME|0 In China they left everyone with preexisting conditions to die during the lockdown|0 Travel from China is banned in the US right now except for returning Citizens and residents|0 Totally I guess I was referring to people who have severe symptoms|0 WHO report published last week stated that based on onsite observations by their staff the numbers of new infected was indeed going down|0 but the zombies are The antivaxers because they had too much faith in the Essential oils and their children died so they took it out on the nonantivaxers|0 And hugging as he walks out FUCK that|0 rsino is a hate subreddit|0 14 February infected while on board Diamond Princess goes to hospital2 March tested negative discharged went home12 March developed a fever went to a doctor hospitalised14 March tested positive|0 This letter says he came into UC Davis medical center a week ago Feb 19 from another hospital already quite sick So long enough to get quite sick plus one week httpswwwdavisenterprisecomlocalnewsnewlydiagnosedcoronaviruspatientbeingtreatedatucdavismedicalcenterfbclidIwAR1sFghxvTPEbT3yAqJGOIUZPGA4loJ2RI91LBvqB2VoejrJBWVZhlzxatshttpswwwdavisenterprisecomlocalnewsnewlydiagnosedcoronaviruspatientbeingtreatedatucdavismedicalcenterfbclidIwAR1sFghxvTPEbT3yAqJGOIUZPGA4loJ2RI91LBvqB2VoejrJBWVZhlzxats|0 I think the government isat all cost trying to avoid panic to take over as a large part of our economy relies on service were talking sportingentertainment events malls restaurants this could put the economy in a very tough position we could be facing something completely new here|0 My home town finally made the news Yay|1 Not posting this as a submission Would like to someone to knock this down or validate it httpboards4chanorgpolthread244767720hipoligotbannedforsolvingwhatwascausinghttpboards4chanorgpolthread244767720hipoligotbannedforsolvingwhatwascausing|1 From what Ive heard the SXSW organizers and local businesses were caught off guard Not that I dont agree with the decision and Im still concerned that many will show up but the way this has been handled over the past week feels weird|0 Meh the CDC or WHO was saying you need temperatures of 60 CELSIUS to kill it quickly|0 Haha I shouldve taken notes when it was happening because there are so many more ridiculous details about that weekend So many unique characters all filling these hilarious roles|1 Yeah I think he just says that to sound interesting and clean Hes neither|1 This truly makes me wonder just how bad it got in Wuhan before they locked down the city|0 True I have to learn to not feed the trolls|1 Heres a link for you to share httpscvmasksgithubiohttpscvmasksgithubio|1 Yes I heard about the infected dogs that they are culling|0 And it always somehow ends with Election coming But actually I really like listening to taxi uncles ranting because they talk to so many people and usually are more elderly so their insight is hilarious|1 you need to pay thousands for an ambulance ride on top of that if you need it as well|1 You cannot possible be fucking serious|0 The issue we have is like you said the timing of the government and the greater populations reaction being too late The realization Im speaking of isnt just the realization of just the virus its the realization that this is greater than us as individuals that this is an chance for humanity as a whole not just the US but globally to work together Also in terms of immediate actions we can take its still not too late for many of us to quarantine ourselves to stay the spread Those who refuse or dont from this point onward after nba after hanks after Europe shutdown will likely be told to shut the fuk up I mean Ive seen and read some ridiculous shit about people not caring or not understanding the magnitude of what were about to go through and quite frankly they need to wake up One thing is despite all the chaos it has caused misinformation and just general stupidity we are very very lucky to live in the age of the internet where communications is near instant If it wasnt for the internet we would likely not even be where were at Just imagine if this was further delayed because of lack of communications technology We would be done for and not know wtf hit usThis is likely the first time that we use a global communications medium to try and preserve human lifeI know its a bit of an over the top dramatic statement but this is still too close to comfortAlso If we are already carriers then isolation will prevent me from spreading this further There will still be a peak to this and there will still be many many of us estimates 6070 infection who will get sick The self isolation and self care if we prepped will be essential for our recovery The point is stopping the spread because1 I dont want to occupy a hospital bed while an older person or somebody in dire need really needs the hospital bed2 this is Corona round 1 Over the next few years we will have many rounds of this and if were lucky we will understand the drill and not only will we be better prepared but hopefully there will be less red tape quicker response times better innovations because of what we unfortunately will go throughGood luck everybody stay safe and stay strong|1 I can reply as an Italian Italy is a country of old all people that passed were old 6090y and presented comorbidities Just compare the data on the average age of pop between Italy 455 and the us for example circa 37 As for the high number of infected compared to the rest of the continent Italy just tested a lot of people as soon as they diagnosed patient 1 I think only the UK has a number similar or higher of people tested|0 So a bunch of mathematicians and statisticians many of whom are masters and PhD students and a massive chunk of them from the same university are being awarded this level of status as if they are in a place to challenge some of the top medical professionals immunologists virologists epidemiologists and behavioural psychologists in the world Sorry but this article is full of holesPeople on this sub have fully lost the plot The level of hyperbole surrounding the plans in the UK has gone through the roof The UK has already said they are going to do the SAME measures as everyone else but in a different more elongated manner The main difference they see is this The virus can no longer be contained Most others seem to think it can be The UK thinks it will come back with a nastier bite at least once more in the future Why is every senior medical and scientific advisor to the UK government in agreement Why are the medical and scientific experts from all four constituent UK nations in agreement The UK is the number one ranked country in the world for pandemic response and preparedness None of you are qualified to challenge these people at all Not even close We can ask for transparency sure But shouting for us to JUST LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN NOW is absolute madness and completely based in a fantasy understanding of what is happening We just have to trust these people who are infinitely more aware of the nature of outbreaks viruses and their own countrys ability to combat it than us People need to sit back and have calm heads over this The hysteria and panic will not help in any way whatsoever and will only harm our efforts to defeat it Some of the measures that are going to be rolled out in the coming days in the UK include but are not restricted to1 Closing all schools except for a skeleton staff to care for the children of NHS workers2 Recall retired health workers and requisition medical students for the NHS3 Ramp up production of ventilators requisition manufacturing plants for this purpose ICU beds have already doubled in the last few days4 Quarantine everyone over the age of 70 for 4 months No visits to care homes no elderly leaving their homes5 Closing of all pubs and clubs and banning mass gatherings6 Army to be deployed to protect hospitals and supermarkets7 Increase testing to 10k per day currently about 5k8 Introduce widespread working from home9 Hotels and other buildings to be made into makeshift hospitals private healthcare facilities to be requisitioned for use by the NHS and army field hospitals to be set upNo doubt everyone on here will be saying its all Uturns though Heres some tough medicine that people seem incapable of accepting Many people are going to die In every country That cannot be prevented now Its about minimising that cost as much as possible Every country has its own variables and problems and will respond in their own ways We in the UK can only hope and trust in our governments many trusted advisors and experts that they have got this very right There is no other choice for us|0 I have masks that could be worn Healthcare professionals arent coming for my box of 5 year old masks MASKS WILL HELP YOU NOT GET IT WHEN INFECTED PEOPLE ARENT WEARING THEM|0 Any random moron off the street would be likely to be better than Trump At least the average idiot recognizes his own limitations and listens to experts|0 Well it depends on how you personally define journalists I tend to believe that the investigative outfits of propublica some of Al Jazeera watch their bit in the Boeing 787 The NY Times the New Yorker Boston globe even a few local newspapers are trustworthy I also read the economist the bbc online I do distinguish these reporters from politically biased writers sometimes on the same staff These journalists are certainly far more credible than guo as they vet and confirm their stories It would be a shame to lazily lump people like guo in with true journalists and just throw up your hands and say whatever its all fake news|1 Yesbecause that is the one and only thing that was doneor notx200Blol haters gonna hate no matter what Post about closing boarders closing boarders good closing boarders smart but trump not smart wait trump just banned travel travel ban sucks lol|0 Why do you feel flights in and out of China dont need to be stopped Would you say the ccp has done a great job thus far|1 Your friend was lying The HCPCS code for COVID19 was announced feb 13|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Thank you for sharing I understand if it is necessary for medication It is also important to boost your immune system with supplements of vitamin C vitamin B6 vitamin E and zinc Garlic ginger and lemons are good to have on hand I am no doctor but there are ways to help your immune system naturally Also never under estimate your body treat it well and it will treat you well back Just a tip Praying for you and your family|1 Thats what happened in Hong Kong Nurses went on strike to force closure of the border with China|0 I tested negative for the flu and ended up developing bronchitisI dont actually think I had COVID19 especially because there were 7 people who returned from China shortly after everyone in my office got sick and none of them came down with anything|0 We might have never had a chance at containment but we should continue to exert a maximum effort including belated stoppage of stoppage of flights probably from other countries beyond China at this point at least until the situation stabilizes Anecdotally I sense this virus is already running amok through Vietnam and probably ThailandIt only becomes very deadly once ICU wards are overwhelmed Just slowing it down is massively worthwhile|1 Nice|1 Im actually ashamed of our government right now Almost every other country is taking this seriously and our government wants it to spread There isnt even enough evidence of immunity after infection yet|0 How hard will it be for the National Guard to put down a bunch of wheezing Bundies|0 Weve seen reporters do stupider things with the Portuguese language and weve seen Eduardo do stupider things in general But you have an excellent point I find this whole thing hilarious in a morbid way|0 No its the children who are wronghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvHMqZ2PPOLik|0 They are doing this in Australia aswell Alot of the elderly had childern with them to get around the limits of things they can buy and most stores were already empty for regular customers|0 Oh noooo I hope it didnt sound like I was being an asshole I really appreciate all of the hard work you and people like you are doing 3 Thanks for all you do I work in pharmacy so I also feel the pinch of trying to do more with less Its brutal|1 the virus started in China so that other shit is irrelevant Definitely not arguing that Trump isnt a dumbass who spreads misinformation but if the Chinese would have locked this shit down when they found out about it it never would have spread the way it did But they were too worried about a PR hitjust like Trump is and here we are|0 That is NOT whats happening The government didnt just decide to axe an entire sector of the economy until further notice A FUCKING SUPERBUG decided that A nasty sneaky virus that spawned in the middle of fucking nowhere and in 3 months time has managed to fuck up the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD Let that sink in then reread your comment|0 Im not sure of the actual death numbers for pneumonia but again this video is purely showing a method to estimate cases It doesnt predict how many people will ultimately be infected and how many people will unfortunately ultimately die For arguments sake if the time to doubling is 5 days as used in the video 3000000 infected with 1 mortality leading to 30000 deaths would be reached in roughly 30 days it remains to be seen if this will be the actual outcome|0 Singapore is still warm relative to temperate countries even with airconditioning Aircon temperatures are set to 70 F|1 Not pay per seYou use ingame points Its hard to explain If youre not in China andor they havent banned it yet play Plague Inc|1 Yeah but that takes time What if the person want to walk out RIGHT NOWWhat if instead of walking out that person escapes in the middle of the night like that lady in Salzburg Austria|1 So that is still possible then Good to know|1 Yes and I am sorry your situation is stressful If I was you I would probably have some anxiety about it Not all situations can be avoided but it would be nice to see some effort from your landlord because this is not something you personally can control Stay well|1 I wish there were some medical article explaining why thats a terrible idea so I could present it to these morons who are in charge of hundreds of childrens livesbut the idea itself is so dumb that Im sure most people would assume that it doesnt need to be said |0 But are these numbers real We know every government is lying about their numbers and underreporting|0 Oh crap Im in MI Wheres our drivethru testing This is insane|0 No nobody has said that about respirators N95 respirators and those rated greater than that would pretect you Surgical masks are created to keep your own droplets contained they are not designed to prevent foreign droplets from reaching you They absorb so youll be walking around with someone elses cough goo pressing against your lips They are NOT a barrier SURGICAL MASKS ARE NOT RESPIRATORS This sub is just brimming with bullshit|0 Its actually bad if your temp doesnt go up It means no immune response|0 Im saying Id like some actual disease surveillance done by the agency in charge of that task A good start might be to recommend that medical personal actually perform tests since my doctor is absolutely following the CDCs lead to determine what testing is appropriateIm saying Im tired of being outright lied to about the spread of a disease in my country for political expedience The story they are telling right now is plain and simply not believable|1 Absolutely Agree|1 Communism will destroy everything|0 WHO should be more specific Like Tokyo and Seoul should shut down like Wuhan |1 I agree but I kind of hope they get really annoying colds and maybe get held for 30 days when trying to reenter Canada Thats the extent of it I mean my elderly immunocompromised MIL lives with me so I dont want to be exposed to anything if my parents are carriers|0 I am so scared of this because my mum younger brother and elderly grandmother are on route to India|0 Always ready when it doesnt matter at all|1 but it does help flatten the curve because patients have a clear understanding of their responsibilities to selfquarantine and avoid infecting othersEveryone who coughs has that responsibility now You dont need a test for thatThe price you pay is that you will also make some people self isolate who only have a cold and a flu Currently I would argue that people with a flu should do that anyway But thats really the only disadvantage you face when you dont have a test|0 It is not that they got it twice It is that they initially got it were tested after a time as negative but it was still in their system and was tested positive later|1 I have a favor to ask anyone here whos willing to post the link to Italys official dataAre you refering to thisIts updated every day at 06000700 pm Italian Time Zonehttpopendatadpcmapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlb0c68bce2cce478eaac82fe38d4138b1httpopendatadpcmapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlb0c68bce2cce478eaac82fe38d4138b1|1 Thanks for the info Thats great to hear for people that are going to be impacted heavily by this Thats also a higher per month than what I would have expected so also good news|1 Good Stop the unnecessary mass hoarding and making items available to more|1 how does other US manage to be no 1 in health care spending but only no 37 in system performance is what Im wondering Like Im in Ireland and I consider our health care to be not that great but somehow were no 19 For the amount of money the US spends on healthcare it should have far better numbers overall And honestly this is quality of care when 1 people can afford to access it which many Americans cant so whats the point then and 2 when not buckling under the strain of a massive influx Its still a huge unknown and you cant say that most healthcare systems wouldnt be on the verge of buckling or would just be mobbed under such a strain Preventing it from getting to the stage that China is caught in now is the best solution but with the way America currently works there would absolutely be sick people willing to risk going to work over losing their jobs and not paying bills Voluntary quarantine wouldnt curb the spread there|1 i hate partygoers|0 Mental midget conspiracy guys will just say that the Chinese government strongarmed the scientists or paid them off or whateverAnything to save their stupid little delusions|0 Extend this to high school students with the ability to drive and dumb parents who dont even try to keep them home like my mom to my teenage siblings|1 Statistically 1 in 6 exposed adults will develop pneumonia half of them will need to be put on a mechanical ventilator to assist with breathing It could be anyone there are numerous cases of healthy 2030 year olds requiring ventilators Just because youre young doesnt mean it wont affect you It simply means youre more likely to recoverbut nothing is a guarantee The bilateral pneumonia it causes can takes weeks to recover from if the hospitals start filling up the death rate will also go up Honestly pneumonia is horrible Id try as hard as I could to avoid it We still dont know the long term effects it may have on your bodypossible lung kidney and heart damage The only quasiguarantee is if youre under the age of 9 and healthy apart from that youre fair game to Covid19|0 Soon we can take off the mask the weather is getting hotter and hotter wearing the mask is very uncomfortable|0 Im getting Contagion feels|0 Then the is even lower Not like there are a bunch of people under 20 dying in their homes and no one find out|0 Thank you for bringing that up some of the reactions are getting little kneejerky here and I get it but we need to remember that every intervention will have benefits but also risks associated with it Especially in the US the land of untold wealth and also vast amounts of people who live paycheck to paycheck closing businesses quickly cascades into people becoming desperate for bare necessities Desperate populations create very dangerous situations The best course of action remains taking personal responsibility to try and prevent your own infection and a sense of community obligation to try and prevent transmission if you become sick Be appropriately prepared to selfisolatewithout hoarding which disrupts preparedness of othersin case you become ill or in case your community becomes a hotbed for infection try to alleviate as much stress from your local healthcare system as possible by practicing appropriate selfcare and doing your best to understand when you do and dont need the be under the care of a doctor Keep in mind that there is no cure you simply have to wait for your body to fight it off and should only need a doctor in severe cases such as having difficulty breathing uncontrollable fever etc Consult with a hospital or doctor over the phone before exposing other people to the virus by waiting in an ERED lobby if you believe your symptoms are severe enough to require medical intervention beyond what you can do for yourself at homeIn time well better understand how effective our immune systems are at developing antibodies with longterm effect Chances are like pretty much all pandemics throughout history the virus will either peter out as people gain natural immunity mutate in such a way that either limits transmissibility or severity such as what happened to the SARS outbreak in Canada higher severity but much lower transmissibility or simply become a part of life but medical interventions will eventually catch up to create standard efficacious treatment plans limiting the mortality rate as best as we can such as we do with the flu Flattening the curve is a smart strategy right now so it makes sense to cancel certain mass gatherings or interstatecontinentalnational events but major disruptions to local economies should remain the Hail Mary not the SOPEdit for the record Im not trying to espouse a lackadaisical approach to this situation or to diminish its severity my post is meant to highlight that we can only do so much as individuals and that larger reactions will have pros and cons that need to be carefully considered additionally my hope is that we can avoid mass panic as much as possible as panic will precipitate worst case scenarios on local and global levels|1 Yes Dont give up|1 Thanks Feel free to PM me a bullet point list of anything you could use help with and Ill gladly help with anything Im experienced in|1 I literally stopped work on Saturday announced we were closing and would remain so until further notice Im a barber and we service many older customers I dont know if I could live with myself if we stayed open and I ended up infecting someone who then died as a resultWe dont have much saved up but I went to the store about a week before everyone went crazy and bought a couple months worth of food Well get through it|0 There are also reusable masks made of finer materials than cotton Ive used one in the US called a QMask against particulate irritants and found it very effective and comfortable Certainly not N95 rated and not cheap 15 ea iirc but durable and easy to disinfectThis one is similar and seems like it might be an even better reusable optionhttpswwwbreathehealthycomNo affiliation with the products I mentioned Ymmv|1 The German government by constitution isnt allowed ot do a lot of things that the Austrian one can just declare with support of the parliament nationwide|1 Cmon guys just stop itSaid no cop ever|0 WE HAVE LAWS forbidding an employers from making sick people come to work especially suspected coronavirus but most people dont know the laws exist so they work anyway|0 I call bullshit on this While kids arent as strongly infected most of the spread of CoVid has been through family clusters By allowing them to attend school exacerbates the spread It also brings the virus to those who are more vulnerable Schools are like any other place of gathering and in most cases worse because kids fail badly at social distancing and hygiene|0 wow 21 makeshift hospitals in 1 city Thats crazy|1 You know theres 44 countries that are infected with this right It started in Wuhan but it could very well be from Italy or IranEdit number of countries infected I couldnt find the actual article stating 49|0 Singapore can only do this because theyre extremely rich per capita and also have a small population relatively over a small area|1 Well it is not the lowest ever|1 Very interesting info thank you|1 First it wasnt my comment Or if you mean the one right above no I very much did not imply that you read it into what you wanted to argue againstThen why are you responding I was responding to this threadNo unnecessary travel avoid gatherings make fewer shopping trips these are things anyone can doIndeed And this may last a couple of years not weeks so focus on lowcontact activities that you can maintain for a long timeThere is no way these restrictions will last for several years|0 Not in US territorial yet We were about 50 miles running race patterns for 2 days But will be pretty soon|1 Finally some good fucking news now I can go to sleep soundly The world is not ending and the corona virus is not is apocalyptic as the barrage of news has lead to us to believe Now good night Let me slumber in my comforting denial|1 Happy Valentines day|1 Italians should tell those who do not wear masks to wear them masks help to stop the spread even if you might look funny wearing them|1 They should make online game stores free as a public health service|1 Well its already too late to learn from NY in some states like cali NJ Washington Louisiana theres already several states where its too late to learn from They could potentially be as bad as Italt and WuhanI hope people learn the seriousness and necessity of universal healthcare and leadership being more prepared Some of these political issues should not be politicized yet they are People resisting these changes should do some serious reflection of whether or not they actually support what they support or if theyre being led on by politicians who care more about points in stock market than American lives|1 HPV is not an acute disease with rapid spread How is that a valid comparisonAnd you are giving an answer to a question noone has asked My comment was mainly regarding antigen tests not antibodies And I know there are drawbacks to the PCR much like all methods but serological tests will not help you in the acute setting since antibody development takes time which you in the case of COVID do not have I dont know what your angle on this is but I dont have any reason to be biased one way or the other Im just looking at this from the perspective of an infectious diseases physician with an interest in accurate and rapid testing methods|1 I dont think there are enough of You around Thank You|1 Im very leery of that recovered number seeing as how the majority are reported from the CCP check that recovered number outside China|1 Sweet thanks So it seems to hinge on whether the accused chooses to show up or not but even if he does it looks like trial will change to to be spoken to and theyll just kick the can down the road a few months PerfectI wonder how this will play out in terms of R v Jordan|1 Those fuckers at Fox are harming this country in many ways and its just fucking wrong theyre getting away with itAbsolutely I was filling out a survey from the Biden campaign before the pandemic broke out There was a list of about 20 checkboxes next to issues like healthcare education etc and the survey asked me to select the ones I care about the most I checked Other and wrote in that the 1 issue I cared about was bringing back the Fairness DoctrinehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFCCfairnessdoctrine policy that the FCC dropped back in 1987 I said that my 2 issue was getting that incompetent ignorant narcissist criminal out of the white house Once those two urgent national security issues are addressed maybe we can get back to addressing all the other issues based on facts rather than on catering to the whims of all informationpoor voters who have been propagandized into voting against their best interests|0 Illiterate I said testing kits that were sent out could do that Bold of you to link me and not actually go back to double check I said that|1 The biggest problem the US is going to face is the fact that the local and federal governments have no authority over private business and believe me the majority of private business will remain open no matter what Unless you put the military in the streets people in the US are going to do whatever they want|0 Im not praising Chinas response but at least there doing something rather than just letting the virus spread At this point thousands of people here in the US could be infected without knowing it We can certainly debate about whether or not such drastic responses as weve seen from China Japan Italy etc are in fact justified I think thats certainly a debate worth having But if we are to assume that governments need to treat the virus as a major threat then I think that the lack of response from the US federal government is just not acceptable|0 You arent a conspiracy theorist Youre literally using the knowledge at hand and connecting the dots like a normal human Our government and media are making you ask questions you DESERVE to be askingOf course the virus has been here for weeks the incubation period is more than three And if someone DIED from it already Dude this thing has been here 56 weeks and it makes damn sense|1 Oh yea I dont disagree For all we know all 8 in the car all passed five minutes before he shows up or those deaths have nothing to do with the virus The former being the much more likely scenario it still shouldnt be described as 9 deaths 1 hospital in the span of five minutes|1 I listed bucatini Hah That is kinda what I consider my spaghetti replacement I think I just like a more textured like thicker mouthfeel|1 You mean why Allah needed them so soon and now theyre in a better place|1 Same with H1N1 too Not everybody who got it got hit lightly with it I had H1N1 and I wont go into details as Im sick of it but when I see that recovered number I wonder just how many health problems theyre going to be having for the rest of their lives and how much this may shorten their lives later on down the road|0 This is what you get when you keep repeating that drivel comparing this to the flu|0 Well The china data which is finally catching up to decent numbers indcate 37 rate I agree it is too early to tell in Italy and South Korea I wouldnt Trust Iran data because they are very keen on covering it up and will likely never report milder cases to begin with|1 Sure you can take a photo and post it on social media That do not mean those people will actually care or even see the photo|1 People were literally flying in from Hubei in other countries who the fuck thought this 100 wouldnt get out|0 How are you coming to that conclusion based on what I wrote Im saying the exact opposite Overbearing censorship and banning has basically made Reddit absolutely useless for following this Coronavirus95 of the information is deleted leaving nothing new|0 Its the WHOs playbook If you were around for the start in China and then saw the complete shutdown of information you can see the pattern The WHO shows up and information stops This gets lost on most people because they want this to be political so its Trumps fault or The Dems are causing this Every country in the world minus SK is keeping a lid on news flow to prevent panic|0 Some say theyre retroactively including deaths that were not officially diagnosed but only suspected as being caused by the virus|0 we didnt which was in my opinion a huge mistake but compared to other countries we did take a better approach to fighting the virus and we are testing way more people than the usa|1 To be on the safe side they should probably just cancel the show for ever Jumped the shark a long time ago Can only take so much Trump bashing|1 Corps of Engineers is one of the most hidebound and inefficient organizations around Sort of like it is run directly by Trump|1 Its just surprising someone would fail to notice the two prior submissions of this 15 minutes before submitting this themselves Redditors spamming the same post didnt ruin my night They just clutter the coronavirus sub and make it harder for people to find useful information during a pandemic|1 The nhs cant cope at all it barely functions on normal days at capacity we were told last week its going to get much worse but were already terrified short staffed and short of PPE the government asked our retired nurses to please come help and then graduated our nursing students a year early so we have more feet on the ground|0 Have your parents contact the school explain your condition and how it can impact you negatively during these times Then go from there Stay at home it might save your life|1 Seeing this in every thread is starting to get annoying Nobody that frequents this subreddit think its just the flu so can we stop|0 I think that the point that they are getting at is no tourist or shopping trips and even business trips avoided if at all possible Limit it to truck train boat and plane operators and crew that are moving goods and bringing Canadians home Other than the movement of goods diplomatic and medical exceptions could be baked inAs for how we would feel the other way around it would not surprise me if it would happen if cases were coming into the US from Canada After all they did so with Europe And I dare say that negations are going on right now anyways Whether or not they get anywhere in time is another matterBy the way I am saying this as someone that will be impacted if there is any border disruption I work the Customs Desk for a Canadian Trucking company and I am expecting a full closure at some point|0 Not everybody there is an engineer making six figures They have cafeteria workers custodians administrative assistants bus drivers security guards landscapers etc|1 Have you tried RMarkdown Id be happy to help set up a workflow|1 We should just call it People of the Year for this year dedicated to all healthcare workers who risked and some even died fighting the virus|0 Sweden is still late with 813 positives |1 We did the bulk of our prepping a month ago but have been doing some last minute stuffHit Walmart for the last time last night Its still quiet Almost overstocked big piles of bulk stuff everywhere like they are expecting a rush or perhaps they are stuffing their stores to the gills while the supply chain is still spitting stuff out the consumption endIts all just been normal shopping for us with a bit more bulk our goal has been to buy stuff well use anyway with an eye toward reducing the need to shop the next few months If the pandemic is a dud well well have the convenience of not needing to shop Nothing wrong with that|1 The American public is generally kinda dumb|0 Thanks for this info I have one old N99 and the filters for it are sold out everywhere Good to know its still useful as its all Ive got|1 In fact its the best The best Its tremendously good Lots of very good numbers a few bad but mostly good In fact its all good Its all fantastic really|1 Thats not the point I was making My point is theyre purposely skewing the parameters for what constitutes as a confirmed case Their economy is tanking and they want people to feel comfortable enough to go back to work|1 I like how insurance is supposed to protect you but when something bad happens theyre like you have a history of using the service youve paid for to discourage this were going to make you pay the cost of the losses youve caused us with increased fees Makes sense for car insurance but thats about it|0 Live in NYC imagine rent where the cheapest you can find is 1500mo for a studio thats talking about the outer boroughs sometimes you can find cheaper but its usually far from the nearest train so you usually need a roommate Buying a house is impossible unless you want to move to outer parts of boroughs what Im planning on doing in Queens Dating making friends can be particularly hard since a lot of people have a front up or are not the way they appear Im saying this from hearing things my coworkers friends have said as well as I have experienced It is so loud here I grew up here sirens all the time noisy neighbors both above below me below has domestic violence that no one can really fix On top of that you have gentrification happening at a staggering rate driving out ethnic enclaves that have existed here made the city what it is Everything is being replaced with cold soulless high rises that no one can afford Going out for drinks or a meal is rather expensive so I rarely go out for either Overall this is where I grew up so this is probably where Ill die but the city has changed so much since I was a kid Im not the biggest fan of it I usually keep it pushing at work stay in the neighborhoods surrounding my home I try not to go out farther than that to not interact with tons of idealistic NYC gentrifiers|0 Well it would be paid for by insurance companies Since it hasnt had to have been used yet there would be a lot of money stockpiled that would now have to be used|1 This is reassuring It is for the benefit of the country to keep its countrymen healthly and everything running|1 Fuck those peopleThis bears repeating Many stupid things in society are based upon and propagated due to personal insecurity Even if as the US government insists a facemask doesnt prevent you from being infected it can help prevent you from spreading it to others I dont want to elevate it to the point of good citizenship or patriotic duty the latter seems almost creepy but in the US it should be seen as somebody trying to do the right thing|0 Masks helps against spreading viruses for sure just because it stops water droplets from infected people to get in or out Ironically they can make things worse for those who use them in wrong way wear too long without replacingdesinfecting getting large amount of bacterias and viruses on external side that may infect the user when heshe removes it with touching the side But in any case theyll help to stop spreadingUSAs officials say masks dont help just because they dont have enough masks supply It is basically a lie for good If everyone will start buying masks in needed amount for everyday use medical personal will not able to get them just And then things may get much worse because doctorsnurses will get sickIt should be first priority to make large mass manufacturing but it is Trump we talking about|0 Our county has 35 confirmed cases right now and 1 death A lot of classmates traveled to high risk regions with even more confirmed cases|0 I live in France very close to the North of Italy Haute Savoie North Italy also has a lot of villages and small towns that were overwhelmed by the illness at the start of the lockdowns Where I live is pretty similar not densely populated etc we are expecting to be locked down shortly as it takes over|1 LOLif this is true you are just a fucking intern and are dismissed|1 At this point I dont even want to start discussing peoples view on China with those idiots I know you are probably right Its just that now we are 6 weeks too late into a fight for our own preservation For the sake of our own lives our family members lives and our own countrymens lives we need to act nowNothing regarding China will help us Even if China nuked their own cities wont change a single bit of how we are going to fare in the coming plague And we are more than a month late into the fightSo I refuse to engage those trolls As far as actual effects go they are undermining our own survival efforts more than actually doing China any harm which I couldnt care less at this point|0 Big true Its just a flu bro Aged like the finest of milk|1 We are fucked|0 Im tired of the Trump bashing Its bc of him that fat stupid and ugly children everywhere know that literally anything its possible|0 I hope not but it might All data coming out of China is pretty questionable to base major projections on due to the political factor|1 Just because someone can be infected for over two months without showing symptoms doesnt mean we have to worry for more than two weeksOh wait|0 Do you want a WAR Because this is how you get a WAR Lana|0 I think when China locked down 200million people everyone in charge should have woken up and started over reactingThe problem is people in charge need to walk on eggshells because politics has turned into a game and there opposition at every turn is looking for an opportunity to fuck them and score political points Which pretty much means they react to late because to act early and waste money is how they get cooked Its a sad reality |0 Shit which airport|0 Super Tuesday already sealed the deal|1 Its Yuri the best Reddit troll|1 A FUCK now what should i do I must go to hospital today non Corona related|0 My god this sub has just gone to complete shit over the last few days Cant you just go back to rCoronavirus|0 Cant miss out all that spring break tourism money|1 Thats because I got it in my notifications twice so I joined to make it stop|0 Im in NYC Panic buying ensues Got 50 of sanitizer|0 When you do just in time delivery with a stock that lasts you a week and you work in a quarantine for a month youre going to run out of stock 300 dead or 0 dead extra|0 The virus cannot be contained at this point Most experts are saying it is expected that a big portion of the population will get infected and that this coronavirus will be another seasonal thing along with the other ones The question that people disagree on is how the infection rate should be paced But to make the claim that by taking a financial hit we can somehow stop 50 million deaths is just not realistic|0 I agree with ubradipaurbana 6567 is not considered elderly in Italy depending on the case youre not even retired yetPeople 60100 are 292 of Italian population 80 are around 7Id also consider someone over 80 to be elderly|1 The Chinese goverment has brutality The Italianshave selfcontrol wait|0 Yeah but the fever was severe in short bursts that came in waves and was followed by bursts of energy normal The paranoia wasnt tied to feverinflammation but rather a sort of hyperactivitytenseness which followed fevercough spurts A bit different than fever delerium though perhaps the medical cause could be the same|0 South korea seems to have a young cluster that explodedspread very quickly and was now very efficiently discoveredtested Meaning that most cases havent run their course yet takes aime time to dierecover and not as many undiscovered milder casesItalys cluster seems to be older has been spreading for weeks longer The initial and maybe even second wave of serious cases is resolving into deathrecovery There also seem to be more undiscovered mild cases judging by Italy exporting cases all over which will make CFR look higher than it is|1 I dont know Nobody can say for certain but its definitely something the CCP is going to be worried about|1 yeah the townies often have a huge chip on their shoulder|1 Dude what the fuck When I looked three hours or so ago there were only 79 cases Shit its spreading so fast I know they are just testing more but the results are not that hope rising|0 20 years in a pointless war but we cant slow the economy down for two months We need a revolution|0 Makes me wonder if this hasnt been around for a long time So many people I know including myself having pneumonia and bronchitis within the past six months and were negative for the flu|0 What does this mean logistically Does this allow the WHO to activate some new protocol or is it just semantics|1 India is really bad with sanitation as well I am a big fan of Bill Gates One of his initiatives is to improve sanitation in third world countries|1 Dont forget mental health workers like people on ACTT and CST teams Theyre technically first responders too and do great work going to meet people in the community in crisis situations|1 This guy is becoming one of the most annoying person in sports|0 there wont be anyone to force evictions in a month when were all forced to be in lockdown like mainland Europe Keep yourself and your family safe Were just at the start and if companies are going to throw their workers under the bus fuck them Our government will have to step in to help all of us Anything thinking differently that we are going to continue as normal with all shops open and running is living in a pipe dream Take the precautions you deem necessary The fallout from this is going to reverberate around the entire world|1 You mean like what they did with the 2000 who were on board between February 11 and 21 with the man who was Californias first coronavirus death I think over a dozen of those have tested positive already|1 Fake and gay|0 I would like to think so but I am not optimistic While FMLA is set at the federal level some states have created their own paid leave laws on top of it I could see some states getting their stuff together to pass something like a pandemic leave law for the long or short term Congress has recent trouble passing legislation at the federal level at the best of times I cant see something that covers most employeeseven FMLA excludes some very small businesses and independent contractorsbeing passed in the near future|1 Stupid cunt not bothering reading the article or getting more info and biting into a misleading title Nobody is price fixing anything this is an investigation against resellers listing absurd markups online and false advertising their productsSorry for the insult but you started it|0 Travolta got tested after he got sick too Turned out to only be Saturday Night Fever|0 This is definitely a sufficient sample size|1 Yes|1 True but wouldnt it be good to have some reliable figures as to how fast this spreads|0 The alternative is to wait until we are in the situation Italy is in Everything is closed by force but also a few thousand people are dead Id rather have closed businesses and people alive now than closed businesses and thousands dead in a month|0 You are overestimating the traditional values we have especially here in Argentina which tends to be more progressive about sex than the rest of the regionPolyamory and swingers are not the norm but they arent unheard of either people talk openly about these lifestyles often|1 Here you goWere all I repeat were all Chinese lying Governments cover up Paranoia Fear Meltdown Cries|0 if the hospitals get overloaded a lot more than just old people will die|0 To be fair a lot of people are going to fear they have coronavirus Thats not a sufficient reason for testing them Being in contact with Chinese citizens who have been ill doesnt mean a person has been in contact with someone who had coronavirus There are a billion Chinese citizens some of them are going to be sick with things other than covid19Edit Testing guidelineshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtmlIf she didnt meet the criteria she didnt meet the criteria regardless of her selfdiagnosis If she did meet the criteria the Florida Department of Health screwed up|0 And an outbreak which finds that he did nothing will surely make him loose|0 Wow thank you for this information|1 True Pretty sure things get delivered late at night after close and are in stock the next morning if that helps|1 I had a similar experience apparently any post which contains good news is getting down voted|1 When you realize that the national US response to the virus seems to be less than Chinas national response to the virus when they first realize it Freedom Democracy Lol Its just the same propaganda fed to make yourselves feel good about your own country|1 UK has better healthcare system than Italy mate what the hell are you talking about|0 My sisters is in late August and I worry about it constantly My whole family is kind of tiptoeing around the issue for the moment because no one wants to be the first to really broach the idea that it may have to be cancelled|0 02 percent chance nba players that got infected can die like this|0 Thats because its not true|0 Yes Very weird But many people are dying due to a cytokine stormthe immune system is going haywireoveractive to fight the virus Actemra is already used to treat cytokine stormswhich usually occur as a reaction to other biologic drugsIm on remicade another biologic immunosuppressant and Im considered at risk but I cant help but wonder if My immune suppressants offer some form of protection|1 How about restrict travel indefinantly|0 Too bad protective equipment was probably just a mask and gloves Not like the rest of the world|0 No theyve said this in the press conferences I literally just posted this an hour agohttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirusUKcommentsfhcnrdukschoolscouldshutforamonthfromnextfridayfkaf85k|0 A literal brick of titanium would rock please have him shit a brick for me |0 She probably got infected while cheating in Spain also|0 I checked out the link Very impressedshared it with othersthank you kindly as i fall into a category being a 67 yr old male|1 That may just be a wee bit of sensationalism by OP but I suppose the general idea is that her test results theoretically helped Washington start preparing for this before it was too late I personally think saved the lives of millions is a stretch but who knows Heres the article on what they didhttpswwwyahoocomnewsseattlelabuncoveredwashingtonscoronavirus053628224html|1 Youre acting like I was excited about it or something lol Good though|1 Its too bad this subreddit was taken over via Redditrequest Isnt there a sub that has the same exact No off topic political discussion rule Cough Cough rCOVID19 I understand no off topic but there already is a subreddit that has very similar rules|0 Testing may be free But if treatment free|1 I work in a High School in Australia in a special education unit those kids have zero sense of personal space or hygiene Im hoping those students parents will keep them home These kids have runny noses need to be toileted etc They sneak up and get very close sometimes theyll attempt to sit on my lap or they play with my hair No amount of hand sanitiser soap or social distancing will make shit of a difference I also have two of my own neurotypical primary school aged children both of whom are gross and constantly putting their filthy hands on everything Theyll close schools when they have to when its gotten out of control and when they no longer have the choice So many bogans are commenting on FB that its all a panic and that it wont effect them theyll continue on life as normal well Im a healthy woman in my thirties Im not particularly concerned for my own health but my Nan is in hospital in Sydney being tested for covid19 and my mother is immune compromised from cancer treatment this shit will effect us all|0 Yeah like I said the mortality rate will go up as cases become widespread When the hospital is full and there are less doctors available things will go up dramatically 20 percent need hospitalization Those 20 percent arent going to do well when there are no hospital beds|1 An engineered catalytically inactive ACE2Fc with mutated the FcR binding sites solves all the issues mentioned For every issue there is a solution|1 This was going on for weeks before they tested It is much worse than we thought|0 According to Singaporean datahttpscovid19sginsightscurrentcases of all the cases currently in the hospital 15 are aged 1830 and 26 are aged 3145 In their recovery datahttpscovid19sginsightsrecovery the average hospitalization time for 1830 is 107 days and for 3145 is 109 days Both of these data points suggest to me that younger people are still going to have a very bad time if they catch this|0 What his aide said made sense i cant recall his exact words but it was along we cant call it a global pandemic because there is only 4 countries with major ouotbreaks a pandemic means this is now impossible to contain and we dont want governments to give up containment efforts and move to mitigation measures only|0 No|0 But our leader told us he had a hunch we were going to be ok|1 I cant understand how we are failing at this so bad Other countries are way ahead of the curve Here we are not testing people Telling people to go to work Not screen international travelers who are entering the country Our government is covering up vital info and spreading false info It blows my mind This virus has really exposed a serious flaw in our government and financial disparity in this country How many lives will end because of the incredible ineptitude of everyone involved|0 Thank you as an abc i appreciate you spreading the truth When everything gets unveiled people will start to truly understand the horrific nature of the ccpI do believe that 10 million may be too extreme 500k may be more accurate|1 Keep your kid home Fuck this system|0 Also just done my calculations as well exactly the same result Great work|1 Wow Yeah they were there before then Shouldnt even have gone at all|1 In the same boat as you unfortunately My bosses allegedly apparently dont seem to think this thing is as real as it is I keep saying Stay tuned with a chuckle but this isnt funny at all|0 Thank the godssome good news|1 Authorities dont want to spend 310k on tests that foment fear|0 Yah it might have had something to do with the fact that I was unconscious and trying not to die lol but what do I know I sure learned my lesson Cheaper to just die and leave my stuff for my family|1 Ive noticed an uptick in the crypto currency markets since this outbreak has been getting worse Wonder if people are slowly buying back in because they fear economic hardship coming up|0 Where will the younger kids who cant stay at home by themselves go So one of the two working parents has to take off for 3 weeks likely without pay and possibly losing a job Or do they find an unlicensed and potentially unsafe daycare in the neighborhood Or maybe they can find a licensed daycare that actually has room even after the surge of kids and have to pay a large amount of money that they dont have given that 40 Americans couldnt afford a 400 expense My point is that the states and possibly the Federal govt need to provide financial assistance return to job guarantees or other options for parents during these extended closuresAnd yes this is good for slowing down the spread of the disease although a good percentage will be grouped together at daycares which partially defeats the purpose of the closures|1 Rent free|1 It was ridiculous Google news would always show new York times in search I can imagine lots of people would give up like me after searching and just seeing paywalls when trying to find out whats going on This shows how much we lack clear news sites And all the clickbait and fearmongering and politization of every single news just made us go back to Stone age|1 Why are they utilising both those measures and to good effect in South Korea China Taiwan etchttpswwwbbccomnewsworldasia51836898Like the British government youve given up and are presumably willing to sacrifice a whole demographic because everythings too hard or costs too much|1 Ive always thought Musk was an arrogant SOB This confirms that|0 Hey I just want to say that even under normal circumstances I have enormous respect for grocery store staff Maybe hero is too strong of a word Maybe the ideal word is essential We NEED grocery stores to keep plugging along and grocery stores need people like you So I thank you for doing what you are doing even if you would rather be out of there dont blame you for that|1 Dont be fooled amazon loves collecting big data|1 Will not work in rural areas with weak or no internet|0 Thats a long time for this thing to spread though Especially if people still dont take proper precautions staying home when sick keeping sick kids home hand washing etc which I know is something not many can afford to do The next few weeks will be very telling I think|0 Thats awesome news So you have the virus contained|1 I agree with everything you just said but this is about making wild assumptions and sparking a level of fear akin to nuclear war If you thought the level of devastation from 5 major cities being nuked was coming IN THREE WEEKS what would you be doing right nowNobody is doing enough and there needs to be a greater motivation to do more But comparing the virus to cities being wiped out That aint it Chief|0 This is very misleading The fact about these outbreaks is the number of deaths and cases is very ambiguous For instance the swine flu was confirmed to have about 6 million confirmed cases 14000 confirmed deaths However the WHO estimated that the number was much higher with 20 of the world contracting the disease and up to 200000 deaths The problem with this infographic is it takes the number of estimated deaths from swine flu and compares it to the number of confirmed deaths of Coronavirus which isnt even done spreading yet When the Coronavirus is over you will see the number of confirmed deaths will be pretty high but not nearly as high as the number of estimated deaths the WHO will calculate|0 The other issue is hand sanitizer Thatd help a lot if people had small bottles they could use during the day It cant be that hard to manufacturer shit loads even if the government did it like New York State is doing We converted plants to make tanks and ammunition in WW2 quickly for petes sake Granted a lot of manufacturing has left the country and hopefully thats something we fix before the NEXT pandemic happens and it will|1 Take a day off from reddit go to a sunny place and breath fresh air if you are worried for the virus just go some place isolated|1 When you are terrified to go outside but have no choice because you are hungry youll realize how stupid you wereWhen your food stops showing up because all the truck drivers also refuse to go outside youll realize how stupid you were50lb of quality rice at Costco costs 10 Are you so terrified that your fantasy world might come crashing down that you cant allow yourself to spend 10 to mitigate risk How much will you spend on coffee today|0 The Spanish flu had a similar manifestation The 2nd wave was deadlier|0 Is that even a thing Can stress weaken your immune system|0 completely pointless The whole reason this is taking so long in the US is because we are refusing to use foreign tests were trying to make are own under our own regulations because were idiots obsessed with our own blown up sense of superiority|0 This feels like waking up in the middle of the night to a huge orange glow outside You run out see that your neighbors house is completely engulfed in flames You stare at it for a few seconds wondering what the fuck to do when your neighbor suddenly appears from behind the house running back to the front door with two metal buckets full of water He catches you looking gives you a big fake smile while still running and tells you to go back to bed everything is under control before disappearing through the front door|0 I hope youre right|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Is he trying to get his boomer wife infected|0 You know if I wasnt sure I had the virus I wouldnt want to stand in line or go to a doctors office with other people that think they are infected|0 Or compromised airways like my kid|1 you are under an impression that supermarkets work differently and have higher stock They dont|1 Good idea as an x truck driver myself this would be great help in this type of situation Most of the time you try to keep up with the clock Not sure how many of you know this but your only allowed to drive for 11 hours then you have to sleep for 10 Those 11 hours are crucial to delivering on time Be safe out there|1 I cant talk to or defend the cruise ship people Those folks are nuts So technically I am one of these people who is going on an unnessasary trip With my family whom I love dearly I am currently on a flight to Hawaii I was conflicted a great deal about the trip but we decided in the end to go for it This is why As someone in the NYC super metro with a long public transit commute I believe the flight is lower risk than simply going to work I work with a lot of international people as does my wife The schools where I live arent closing anytime soon There are no confirmed cases On this trip my daughter wont be in school I was sick whole family was with very odd flu like symptoms about a month ago It sucked a little then went awayWhy wouldnt we just stay home Because that would be weird The stay at home things to do are go to movie theaters no thanks concerts no thanks or kid stuff not sure about catching covid but Id definitely get sick from something thereI did a whole lot of reading about the airplanes and decided it was the lesser of two evils Its only a short trip and were going to be careful Who knows maybe this will be our last shot at taking a trip like this for a whilePerhaps we are putting some different folks at risk but those people made the decision for air travel too Maybe this is their daily commute but I suspect not The many many more people I physically touch unavoidably Im an introvert every day in the subway because we are all jammed in there do not have the same decision making power or processAnd finally I went because I promised my daughter that we would This might sound silly but as a parent it is a powerful drive to keep your promises It would not overrule her safety of course but its not something small to me|0 No problem Our area is now out of toilet paper overnight|0 Fuck yea|0 Just a heads up they reported to WHO in December 31st when they still had 27 cases Given that this virus causes similar symptoms to other respiratory viruses it was hard to determine it was a new disease Consider it from a doctors perspective If you have 27 cases of ARDS your first differential is never new virus OMG You do your due diligence and screen for all other known viruses Then once nothing comes up positive which in itself takes time you consider a possible new virus This is not to say anything about how virulent the virus is or what ramifications may come its spreadPut yourselves in their shoes and ask what you would do before shifting all the blame to them|0 Its in the hightlights and the abstract The estimated effective reproductive number increased from 08 to 24 in December 2019 when the mean doubling time was about 4 daysAs in it either mutated back in december or jumped into an environment far more conducive to spreadingedit after further reading It is therefore possible to hypothesize on the basis of our data that the first passage of the virus from animal to human occurred through rather inefficient and still unknown transmission modes causing relatively few cases in the early times before December In December the virus acquired a more efficient mode of humantohuman transmission ie through droplets causing exponential growth also detected by the skyline|1 Some of the snack packs for purchase on coach domestic flights are delicious A lot of times they are more appetizing than the hot meals in first class Even the kids packs have good stuff Lol|1 since the body does not build antibodies for this covid19Source on this statement because it makes no sense|0 Tucker believed this was serious from the very beginning His first segment on the coronavirus at least the first one I saw some weeks ago was very somber on the whole situation He even called out misinformation from politicians|0 My experience living in Japan is that people take hygiene and not spreading germs on a whole a lot more seriously than we do here in Australia for exampleWe had a trip planned to see family in Japan next month we were going to cancel it but now we arent sure since if its going to be here anyway with all these anti vax pricks walking around wed rather be in Japan|0 limited hand sanitizer httpsimgurcomgalleryIfAgSZw they limited hand sanitizer in WA even though stores and the places that supply stores are all sold out|1 Then bring a lunch and pay at the pump Not rocket science|0 Well as the Chinese were among the first infected and it is takin about 10 days with the virus before pneumonia sets in this would only stand to reason IMHO Until other than Chinese get to that stage of infection we have no reason to say it only affects Chinese this way There is some that point to lung injuries already in China due to their high pollution and this could be true we will have to wait and see if this remains factualMy guess it is not a virus that is somehow only potentially fatal to Chinese I rather think it is an indication of what this strain is capable of and it does go in line with other published accounts of this strains progressionI will add there are papers out there that suggest this strain in 30 of cases goes to critcal pnemonia stage In others it presents as mild symptoms of coldsuch as cough and low fever and still others fall in between those two extremes When it comes here which i believe it will I can only hope mine is at least in the lower 2 tiers There is speculation that the way the virus goes that is to say you are relatively ill have days of feeling much better and then whamo you have pnemonia and are on ventilator is the reason we are seeing less in the recovered phase It is along process and somedont come out of it That kid in Hong Kong was only 35ish and he passed from it|0 The consumers made the decision to manufacture in China We constantly chose price over anything for years and years and years when it comes to almost every product Every company that tried to keep domestic manufacturing disappeared because they couldnt compete with the price We did this to ourselves|0 This Also the number of cases medical staff have seen to date point would lead to greater proficiency accuracy of clinical diagnosis They know what they are seeing even if they cannot swab deep enough to get it on the test Takes several days to spread upward through the lungs to the throatnose area|1 just like the rest of your clothes right|1 Any news on this front is good news but its important to recognize that it will take time to mass produce these tests and put them to general use|1 The results from the ARDSnet trial was published in 2000 in nejm which is broadly read by physicians internationally Theres no indication or proof suggesting that physicians are not following the same strategy elsewhere and the fact that ards has been managed successfully throughout the world suggests at least overall strategy is similar Although each country has different standards of care and also different level of resurces suggesting that there is some intentional or negligent widespread mismanagement throughout nonUS institutions is frankly a bit conspiracy theoryish|1 Do you know of any private medical institutions offering this test in London Serious question my wifes friend was at the same event with patient 17 and 32 and she met my wife a couple of days later Her friend is in self isolation right now but everyone else even her friends husband is told to keep calm and carry on No one is being tested|1 Ive always felt set apart from most people frankly This doesnt change that fact but its also nothing remotely new If anything I feel like Im embracing experiences much more lately I jerk off more Im having a kickass lemonlime soda right now I bought an electric guitar and Ive been learning to shred Ive been journaling I feel more alive as we teeter closer to a full blown global crisis|0 The spread is not slowing down The percentage is lower than it has been earlier but the count infected per day increases almost every day Every person infected can potentially infect others so youre looking at it wrongThe count infected per day is more relevant than the percentage|0 So your argument is that he didnt cut it when faced with an imminent crisis just two years before there was a crisis And thats fine to youDo you not remember Obamas response to Ebola in 2013 Thats why these groups were established This is 100 Trumps fault Stop equivocating|0 Its insane how quick it takes off from such a small number|0 Its okay be That Guy I also thought that there is no PM25 when youre vaping but it seems that this is not completly truehttpdocplayernet98704595Measuringaerosolparticleemissionsfromcannabisvaporizationanddabbinghtmlhttpdocplayernet98704595MeasuringaerosolparticleemissionsfromcannabisvaporizationanddabbinghtmlThe question is if the inhaled PM25 is significant since we inhale PM25 all day long In addition cannabinoids are reported to be antiinflammatory|1 I hope you and everyone in area continue to be healthy sincerely I really doThis is an example of why I really believe access to healthcare for everyone is necessary for the public good and potentially a matter of national security It is an extreme example but still it can obviously happen Some things are important to maintain a secure prosperous and civil society health care education are just as important as military defense public utilities rule of law etc|1 I think she will be fine |1 I used the coronavirus to destroy the coronavirus|0 We did it reddit We saved the world from Corona|1 Man virus mutates anywhere anytime Did you blame US during H1N1 If the world goes down China might be the origination but will never be the reason|0 Better than nothing|1 Good point Sadtimes|1 its ok D do it and dont feel bad about it make sure we can talk about it to the next generation |1 They voted for Brexit in majority because of the manipulation arising from groups such as Cambridge Analytic Of course they dont trust the public they were elected by manipulating them|0 Dude i i said it and since i couldnt get a source except one of the people who lives there told me people on this god forsaken subreddit started downvoting me I even said LA has a area on lockdown due to mass reports of coronaJesus christ people Now there is some kind of news about it and you believe it News aint all|1 For most of the working population economic ramifications of this would be significantly worse than the illness itself All the people who will die because of this and their loved ones will take issue with that notion Nothing is worse than death I would be willing to accept quite a bit of hardship to let so many others live|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Probably to safeguard the safety and privacy of other patients who may not want to be identified as coronavirusinfected when theyre released back into their communities after the quarantine if theyre uninfected|1 The states are doing just as if not more poorly They have conservative leadership atmThe governments as a whole are not being proactive enough theyre all waiting to be reactive If sheer was in power it would be the same dont be mistaken|0 It means the percentage of people who get sick could be lower but not the absolute number If the risk of major symptoms turns out to be half but the rate of spread is double you get the same number of people flooding hospitals|0 Stay strong Be safe |1 Hope he has learned a lesson about himself|1 You guys you dont know what are you talking about I live in nyc The amount of money they collect only in taxes is unbelievable there is around 10 millions people here if you put only 100 taxes month do your math its 1 billion month Without counting tolls bridges and tunnels tickets etc so nyc make about 3 billion every month if not more believe me the cost for testing coronavirus and all the expenses associated will be paid with money collected from only ONE day of the toll from tunnels and bridges|1 Not warm just lukewarm Warm corona would kill Bacchus himself|0 regime reim 1 a government especially an authoritarian one ideological opponents of the regime 2 a system or ordered way of doing things detention centres with a very tough physical regime You can absolutely have lawfully democratically elected regimes|0 If the virus was already out of control in Philly doctors would be reporting a huge uptick in pneumonia cases in the area Youd know even if there wasnt any testing going on|1 NK wouldnt be shit without citizens though so surely they will commit to battling the virus Or am I entirely mistaken and gullibleI see that I shouldve responded a couple of comments earlier but eh|1 Things are already so fucked when something like this is even being considered But on the other hand no ones worrying about cross contamination if the patient isnt breathing|0 What I read people training in Wuhan came back with it Nguyen Thi Thanh 42 is being treated for acute pneumonia inside the centers Department of Infectious Diseases Her cousin Pham Dung 23 tested positive for acute pneumonia caused by the novel coronavirus nCoV after she and her coworkers at the Japaneseowned Nihon Plast Company Limited returned to Vietnam after training in Wuhan last monthhttpswwwvnexpressnetnewsnewsinsidecoronavirusquarantinecenterinvietnamsworsthitprovince4051475html|1 Lol what Stop trolling bro This is killing a much much higher percentage of people than the flu|0 Id like you to elaborate on this comment please|1 Have you ever been in a large call center It may as well be a cruise ship the way employees are packed in together The last one I worked at had 300 people just in my department all in the same room And there is confirmed community spread in my city Its dangerous during a pandemic|0 We wont wear the mandatory body suits seen in photos in Chinese hospitals We will be shortstaffed and spreaders of he disease Specialty physicians will be scarce We will overburden the emergency room physicians with patients that should be seen at special triage clinicsYou are amazing people Thank you Because of you and many people like you so many people will make it through this It is indeed at the worst times that humanity shines|1 The CDC warned us weeks ago to prepare for significant disruptions to our lives and most didnt listen|0 A mustache can still allow a good seal haha|1 Lmao Dude sounds like you have a political agenda since youre whining about every single person who criticizes trump Thats a political agenda|1 Could it be she came into contact with someone with a natural immunity|1 My god thats a bad idea|0 How about no|0 If someone is infected has been told to quarantine themselves but doesnt appear sick whats to stop them from leaving the zone|0 Thanks I hate it|0 China could afford to admit itthe dont need to they will have big big problems to deal with rather than cleaning thier face as some reddit members try to show usThey would have to prolong business shutdowns probably countrywidethe impact of this virus will touch high levels in economy i dont doubt it that humanity will make it and survive even with worst case but big question how many years will this virus send humanity back |0 It usually is And yet lawyers get a bad rap for incentivizing health safety and rights Too many have bought the corporate lies of out of control tort litigation there is some abuse like in anything but outliers have been exaggerated|0 I meant when the first death happened there was something around that number|0 haha truth hurts truth hurts haha now you faced reality did you pss your pants or your male nipples became smaller|1 Also theres economic impact that can come from fear and lead to a global recession And in the US that might mean losing your health insurance and general instability Authoritarians and xenophobes can also take advantage in a crisis and lead us down paths well regret later|0 Yeah there are some misunderstandings about that apparently|1 guaranteed these people either will not be the ones who die or experience sequelae of covid or will be the first person on the news and every social media site screaming about how the healthcare industry killed their meemaw bc Decisions had to be made Makes me ragey|0 So when can we start to live normal lives again Never You mean tell me that 100 years from now well still be in fear of the coronavirus Everyone has to be a hermit or a shutin or cloistered monk|0 Dont worry Reddit can be very young sometimes|1 30 minutes as per article and can be used by 4 persons at the same timeInformation missing When can they be widely deployed At what stage can this detect the virus this is the really big one since in the majority of the cases people can infect most people the first 35 days while being asymptomatic|0 It sounded antagonistic I forgive you And apologize for jumping down your throat Its just a super sensitive subject for people Some people are literally terrified that when they start running out of groceries and have to go to the store someone in the community will kill them because of age or a compromised immune system It is probably hard to hear people say they dont mind taking a chance with your life so they can go have a beer and buy a new sweater Can you imagine Its literally everyone saying I could help save your lifebut I dont want to|0 i guess so here many many persons still think thats its a massmedia invention this weekend many of them went on vacations and when the government was about to say that there would have been area restrictions they have left that areas tonight in a hurry Embarrassing|0 Exactly People calling for more testing now are three weeks behind the curve Tests are useful to track progression But that stage of the pandemic is over now Its everywhere and we need to act as suchEveryones behavior should be to act like theyre carriers who can give it to others and everyone else is a carrier who can give it to you Every flulike sysmptoms should be treated as covid symptoms Do not go to the doctor for such symptoms unless your life is currently at stakes it will do no good to be tested just to know whether its actually covid Assume it is covid period|1 Who knows Its possible they dont even count the votes The Central Election Committee reported on 12 March 2019 that the voter turnout for the election was at 9999 and that unanimously the voters cast their ballots in favor of the registered candidates|1 Its a viral disease and you are absolutely insane comparing to bombs and bullets and of course the socio economic implications and death and pain of warWould you rather be in the middle of a war facing bombs and bullets or a disease where you hang out on reddit for while|0 No one should have to worry about paying rent buying groceries or additional childcare because of COVID19 Trudeau said We will help Canadians financiallyThe government of Canada will be introducing significant fiscal stimulus packages in the days ahead|0 Depends on how serious your symptoms would become|0 My wife an I live near Seattle and have been wearing N95 masks gloves ear plugs and glassesgoggles for the last 2 weeks No one has said shit but Ive caught some people staring At this point I told my work Im not coming in and I dont plan on leaving the house We got everything right before the panic started 8 week food supply and everything we need I think people will lose their shit within 2 weeks|0 What do you specifically want addressed|1 During these trying times people need an escape from reality Yes this is a serious situation but well survive it The earth and humanity is far older than the United States Adapt and overcome|1 Scientifically its dubious because CoV has no established recirculation data and I dont believe the virus will amicable to recirculation and its incapable of latency So Im not sure that you can declare something endemic when you can reasonably expect that it will go extinct The declaration of a pathogen being endemic is a declaration that the it will reach ecological homeostasis in a reservoir|0 Kunming Yunnan province Only about 70 total cases here now only 2 or 3 left supposedlyI believe it though They are super cautious here and things are now opening again after 2 weeks with no new infections|1 Just surprised how many st Patricks bar crawls are still going on in this I can only assume windy city My sisters at one now seems foolish|0 Theres a chance a vaccine already exists Bar that I think its more likely billions will be infected 6075 |0 Its known to help soothe your throat at least thats what I use it for Theres some articles out there about how it boosts your immune system and helps with diarrhea but Im not 100 sure on that|1 Fucking this Okay glad you werent worried Now youre sick|1 We still have 2 possible cases that were being tested in NYC and the 412 people taken off of the cruise in NJ yesterday that were supposed to be tested and no news back from either that Ive seen and Ive been pretty attentive to the issue Its unacceptable and will breed widespread mistrust if the virus starts to take root in the US|0 Sorry you got downvoted here I agree with you I dont like Pence but from a governmentalbureaucratic stand point it makes really good sense he has complete access to the full power of the Executive Branch why would you put a scientistMD in charge of what amounts to a political operation Pence knows the ins and outs of how it should run as well as anybody oh well You get an upvote from me|1 Yes this I know everyone is in fear right now and its easy to find a target but rest assured we are following the same path Singapore Taiwan and Hong Kong did and they stopped this in its tracks by doing it this way Our government has to deal with an erratic American government AND keep our supply lines open for food drugs and other essentials that come directly from the US|1 Masks dont really work like people think Health professionals specifically surgeons wear masks to prevent them from contaminating the patient A mask doesnt stop you getting something it lowers the chance of you spreading something you have to others Unless your using a chemical weapons grade gas mask with eye protection its not going to stop you getting it The point is to contain the coughs from sick people to limit its spread in the air Healthy people buying masks preventing access for sick people will actually increase their risk of catching it Also im a citizen I care more about healthcare professionals health than my own at this point If Im sick only I am affected If a healthcare professional is sick they risk spreading it to the vulnerable patients they are dealing with and sick time for a health professional will have knock on affects for all the people they could have helped care for|0 BruhLearn to cook Make a stew soup freeze it in an ice cube tray Youll eat for whole week from a few perishable goods|1 ebola was less badbecause u had to kiss people to get it|1 I think these videos were form chemical attack drills Not related to virus|0 Okay because as far as I was concerned they are are very early findings and not yet peerreviewed Thats why our government doesnt confirm this type of spreading since they are only focusing on confirmed studies endorsed by the WHO I think the Dutch government should be straightforward about this we dont know everything about asymptomatic spreading yet and since its not proven we should be more cautious and close the schools until we know what the real facts areDr Campbell is a great resource btw I will search for the reference and post it back here if I find it|1 Maybe ECMO is pretty high risk in itself|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I early voted with gloves on last week was not surprised I was the only one I hope people are being smarter than last week |1 Appreciate the thought out post That certainly took a lot of effortOne thing to point out is that we can scale up our ability to deal with this the longer the curve lasts With the right incentive and time we can Ramp up respirator and PPE production Build new hospitals and ICUs Train or convert people in other professions to deal with this Increase our ability to identify monitor and quarantine individuals that are exposed|1 On one hand awesome On the other hand they are absolutely just tallying up those costs and will jack up premiums again next yearThis year mine went up 25 from 400 to 500 monthly Cant wait|1 So my questionlies in is it just the team or the arena I will be less upset if it is the arena staff media and such also|0 Dont forget the Chinese its all their fault|0 If you dont get vaccinated you likely wont catch whatever you didnt get vaccinated for So no antivaxxers could be right due to herd immunity Just like you could be right due to a combination of containment measures working and numerous other factors that people actually taking this seriously contribute to It is a pretty good comparison in my opinion|1 Ive noticed not to make it overly political that most of the people I know who are Republican play it off as nothing Many of them being those who could suffer the most|0 Im glad to hear theyre taking action and doing something reasonable to slow the spread Cannot say the same the US|1 Then whats everyone worried about Lets just forget about this silly virus thing Everything will be fine We have thousands of ventilators s|0 Id argue its much more than that|0 I can almost see that Im going to go and fill the cart I wonder if marshmallows are selling better than usual right now tooWere safe Honey I bought cotton candy pillows marshmallows and potato chips We couldnt fit anything more in the SUV|1 test kit manufacturing companies already knew the virus was spreading few months ago and start developing and manufacturing the test kits while most of the countries and even the Korean government was down playing the virus outbreak|1 This is the best tldr I could make originalhttpswwwcbccanewshealthchinacoronaviruscoverupclaims15471946 reduced by 95 Im a bot String music swelled and TV screens across China filled with images of gowned and masked hospital workers in Wuhan bravely attending to victims of the COVID19 virus outbreak quotThe speed with which China detected the outbreak isolated the virus sequenced the genome and shared it with WHO and the world are very impressive and beyond words So is China039s commitment to transparency and to supporting other countriesquot he said shortly after the emergency was declared quotIn many ways China is actually setting a new standard for outbreak response It039s not an exaggerationExtended Summaryhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcommentsf8tco9cbccanadasbbccallsoutchinaforlyingandwho FAQhttpnpredditcomrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot Version 202 469850 tldrs so far Feedbackhttpnpredditcommessagecomposeto23autotldr PMs and comments are monitored constructive feedback is welcome Top keywords China1 outbreak2 country3 people4 case5|1 This definitely works Great suggestion I have Google Voice on my Android Tablet You can make calls textleave voicemails set greetings have it transcribe a text and send it to your email account You can add the delivery app to the tablet|1 Thank you for the update|1 while it sounds really nice those people and everyone else are gonna to pay extra on their taxes to cover that everyone but the corporations that is|1 God please change my blood group to z from A|1 And Germans love wieners Really|1 Well if I recall wasnt Reddit deleting posts and trying to silence people early on like all the big websites Fortunately so many people complained about the censorship that they stoppedWhen it first started there was a lot of its just a flu bro comments ridiculing people that were saying this looked pretty serious|0 its probably happening in a lot of places there are news articles on it happening in China and just the other day got one case at a train station in Singapore which was so bad it definitely looked more of malice than accident therefore was reported to the police but was posted on a official Facebook fanpage so trustworthySo I wouldnt be surprised if there would be people elsewhere doing it cult members or noOn that some people in SG started to use condoms to press elevators buttons too|0 Where is it saying kids are getting sick quickly in Iran Do you have a link I definitely believe you but I just cant find a link|0 Why the fuck would you need to wet your finger Thats fucking gross|0 Im in Oklahoma and I dont think people realize that fans were in their seats and the stadium was about sold out The game was cancelled right before tip off after it was determined Rudy Gobert was positive Im sure they tested the players and personal to find out if 1 they could have caused infection in an area with several thousand and 2 if the Jazz players could travel back One of the players had also visited a school that day At the time we only had 1 confirmed positive|1 Theres just no chance for there to be research on this right now Basically we dont know and we wont know for a bit but you should err on the side of caution and limit activity that inhibits your lungs|0 The thing that will really mess with your head is that if you were how many people did you possibly infect Scary thought|0 Time for labour union to step in and put all hospitals on strike These people are our lifeline and they must be protected at all cost Regular tests for them in any case is a nobrainer|1 Do you understand what mortality rate is The flu is at or less than 01 that is one tenth of one percent for you smooth brains If we take the lower number of 2 mortality rate with covid19 that is close to 1 million deaths if 46 million become infected|0 On a scale of one to ten how bad is this outbreak currently|0 Imagine how bad it must be if people are risking their lives like this despite knowing completely the consequences|0 how does it help to stay home if people at home can get sick from you|0 httpswwwsciencedirectcomsciencearticlepiiS0166354220301145 chloroquine has shown in vitro activity against many different viruses but no benefit in animal modelsso maybe itd help maybe not Worth a try if it does no harm|0 Its bad that he ran but we dont know fully even though its likely he ran but why quotes with nanny state|0 Are you coughing with a dry coughshortness of breath If so Please Selfquarantine for now Call your States Dept of Health and advise them If you have underlying medical conditions be sure to tell them Hang in there and dont panic At this point there is enough evidence that there is no need to verify with testing They know the symptoms of this It can be verified with a chest xday But def selfquarantine so as to not pass to others if it is|1 I think newsbusters ranks them If youre not aware youre probably too far gone to help|1 You were right they are at Swedish right now not sure how I got that mixed up Does hospitalized always mean serious condition|0 You dont want to expose your own people to this deadly virus What a racist|0 I work in a hospital as a nurse and currently if any nurses have travelled internationally when they return they are out on a 2 week sick leave so they can apply to EI however for how much work is involved to apply and get paperwork for EI it isnt worth it EI has a standard rule that the first week is the waiting period so they could only get the second week paid and they have a month to accept applications so its likely they would be paid the next month for that one week|0 Some people act like its a terminal cancer I got your pointWhen I say bad I mean its worse than cold better than HIV you will lose some time of your life and will probably be ok even though you will be scared for having a chance of dyingBut if you are old have breathing problems or smoked for decades then your life is in real threatI think Im more scared than others because I was a passive smoker for ten years lost my grandmother because of it and my mother almost died from it when she was a kidBut even the ones who got coronavirus are mostly ok there is about 50k if you consider the suspected as infected infected people but only 500 died so it is probably less then 1 odds of dying|0 i mean they found in the nervous system already so it would seem to be the case thats how other diseases stop being detected they hide out in the central nervous system|0 Because bragging about being an asshole is what assholes do|0 Dont discount those afflicted with moronavirus httpsbostoncbslocalcom20200314coronavirussouthbostonbarscrowdedsocialdistancing|1 Why would they care about people they dont know will never meet or speak to If politicians didnt care about them before they wont now|1 Kind of a pipe dream unfortunately The US government is barely reacting I doubt the law is going to hold many companies accountable when it itself isnt accountable Im sorry but Im really pessimistic right now God damn I need some sun|0 Isnt there some kind of gameapp where the end goal is to infect as many as possible What is that thing called I feel like we trained for this stuff|1 You mean like this doctor who got refused coronavirus testshttpstwittercomdrericdingstatus1232548504477872128s12httpstwittercomdrericdingstatus1232548504477872128s12or countless others turned away from test|1 Happy cake day|1 Its going to happen with people doing their regular March break schtick How many families in Ontario are taking vacations to the US Even my uncle is still planning on traveling to England to watch rugby this weekend Hes an idiot and so is everyone not willing to cancel their trips and stick around home|0 Agreed So thats people should be pissed off and demand the changes come in sooner Unfortunately yesterdays plan just embedded the downplay In 2 weeks well see where we are|0 I dont think you understand how large scale quarentines work People with jobs absolutely crucial to the wellbeing of the populace continue to do their thing it is just people who are not absolutely needed who stay home China has shown the effectiveness of slowing down the death rate with quarantine|0 This right hereI dont have the monetary resources to help Ive confided what I would consider lifepreserving information to family and certain friends Beyond that its up to them to use it or not|1 Cant underestimate influenza either It can really knock you on your ass I was out of commission for several days this November with likely influenza A given my daughter had it and was swabbed right after I recovered Its been around 10 years since I had the flu and I forgot how debilitating that it could be|0 I was just talking to my family about this Ive worked retail for about 20 years with a ton of other jobs thrown in All of them fairly low earning I cant think of a single person from any of those jobs where being sick will effect their choice to go to work When I was at CVS that store happened to get a minute clinic If you called out sick if you didnt want your hours reduced you had to go to the minute clinic and report to work Unless the doc at the clinic told you to go home The thing is it seems awful cause it is but when I working there it was a Godsend I could both get whatever script I needed AND get hours in Fuck yeah Im gonna do that We had u official procedures for what to do with people when they were obviously sick Wed throw them in the stock room and have them do stuff on the floor If the manager was lucky they could pawn off the price changes and signage to the sick person It worked really well for us Healthy folks generally stayed healthy and the sick folks got to get their hours in When Ive been a manager if someone calls out Ill ask why and if theyre sick Stay home get some rest Well just be short staffed for awhile These chain businesses arent going anywhere we can put off certain tasks The one thing I did for my coworkers as a manger that other managers didnt do was Id offer to pay for their flu shots We work with sick people everyday The flu sucks pretty bad We come in contact with carriers everyday we work The only thing worse than the flu is knowing you gave it to your family or roommates All this comes down to money As a manger I made sure my coworkers knew that if they were sick Id prefer they dont come in If they wanted to call out sick and go to a concert whatever Ill take that bullshit so long as employees arent spreading germs Another part of our customer base are very seriously ill folks with immune system issues An employee exposing a customer like that to illness will make the customers life miserable The problem wasnt for me anyhow getting employees to call out it was that they needed the money desperately Its hard enough to budget when youre hourly and your paycheck changes week to week But to have 80 less on a paycheck is the difference between rent and eating Those employees simply arent going to call out because they need the hours Unless theres an enforced quarantine it will spread quickly just because we cant afford the time off never mind paying for medical care|0 Yeah even just personally its startling to me how different my perspective on this was just Friday I was still in a cautious mode on Friday now Im pretty much on full lockdown|1 Madagascar is still fine right|1 I live in Hurricaneville aka South Florida not prepping year round means being absolutely SOL when not if the next hurricane hits so most of us with the means and the brains to do so have many relevant items on hand at all times I sure as heck dont stock Chef Boyardee because its good|1 Thats an amazing Tuesday|1 People globally will lose loved ones It is a already a pandemic and actually infections far higher than being reported The UK is responding appropriately|1 Yeah I agree that if it has a high percentage of false positives this would be more ideal for an initial screening which is what Im wondering I have no medical background so surely people who study infectious disease for their job eg CDC would have considered thisI would think its better to get a false positive and isolate many that dont need it especially in the early stages and then later release them when more conclusive tests come through Especially considering we are trying to prevent the spread of something that often shows zero or mild symptoms while contagious Which I imagine is a near impossible task even with the ability to do fast local testing|1 Do you know how scary that actually sounds coming from someone I greet you from hell That is SO terrifying But I still saw pictures of people just chillin outside of a cafe in Northern Italy yesterdayNo source for that right now sorry Ill try to find the post think it was on the chinaflu forum|0 No matter what the actual rate of serious complication or death is we know from Wuhan that its enough to overwhelm a medical system|0 The UK readily admit that our true numbers are higher as were saving tests for those unwell enough for hospital admissionsThe danger with the USA is that their administration is refusing to test so that they can act as though all the other countries have brought it to their front doorThats why Trump has banned flights from the UK he knows very well the USA have a bigger problem|0 Damn son|0 I was mostly joking|1 Seriously Its a pyramid scheme|0 I have a feeling my girlfriend will also be out of a job as this progresses She does in home care for a mentally disabled patient whos immunosuppressed Ill likely need to help her with her car payment in the coming months Best of luck to you were going to need it|1 A sample size of 2 is better than nothing Ill take it Im O so itd be good news|1 Spanish flu 20 |0 If you eat plenty enough soon very safe limits exceed themselves|1 Doubt it The federal government has never had so much incompetence at such a high level before|0 Youre not wrong Youre just being downvoted because reddit is full of idiots who dont do any research Its a hive mind that disagrees and downvotes|1 This is wrong on so many levels Testing isnt being done If it was we could have known to lock down earlier Trump isnt helping and is lying to promote the stock market which obvious doesnt work|0 Not my intention to shame people Apologies if it came across that way It just surprised me personally that toilet paper would be the first major shortage Id hear about after masks and such once the panic buying began Maybe thats because it doesnt seem as high priority to me personally as some other items that arent selling out at the same rate or if they are arent receiving as much media attentionThe TP shortage is just one example of the drastic changes that can happen fairly easily as a result of positive feedback cycles created by widespread fear during disasters Thats human nature and I find it interesting And Im definitely not saying Im not a part of that phenomenon I just didnt happen to be in the case of TP specifically|0 Expect to think about it continuously until real vaccine is at hand and they are injecting it into your body Edit And you are not part of the placebo control group and that the vaccine is NOT worse than the disease|1 Divine intervention|1 All the masks have been long gone got hand sanitizer and Lysol BOGO last week antibacterial soap NyQuil cough and Tussin today I went to the Spanish grocery store by my house business as usual just no hand sanitizer on the shelf Went to the Walgreens next door and it looked like the apocalypse three people in line w masks one w armfuls of gloves Tampa FL|1 I like the shinji conspiracy better South Korean death cult flipped someone at that lab and started infecting peoplehttpswwwnytimescom20200302worldasiacoronavirussouthkoreashincheonjihtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200302worldasiacoronavirussouthkoreashincheonjihtml|0 I would take that with a massive grain of salt We are already getting academic level research saying that CQ is working very well While there hasnt been peer reviewed studies to come out yet its looking very good I actually havent even seen a reliable source yet say its not at least helping a lot|1 Thanks for being brave and beautiful human beings ready to serve others|1 Gg people|1 I used to live there and Im missing it like crazy right now Idaho has been testing per their public health page I knew theyd be one of the last lower 48 with a case though The population of the whole state is less than most major cities in other states and most tourism there is outdoorsy stuff Hug the Idaho soil for me friend|1 Virus slowing down Current Day 7Virus outbreaking H2H outside China Current Day 7Know your China Flu formulasTheyll be a test|0 I work there and for what the job is its pretty good Pay starts at 12 an hour and PTO is honestly really good If youre full time as the lowest level associate I mean like cleaning bathrooms and you have 20 years in you get 40 paid days a year That is a ton|1 This reminds me of myself back in school trying to convince my teacher why my half assed essay is actually the best essay in the world even though the only correct thing was that I spelled my name right|1 Unfortunately I think certain parties will try to attachsneak riders in that will get it voted down|1 best line is What has happened in China shows that quarantine social distancing and isolation of infected populations can contain the epidemicyup for sure Im amazed honestly that China didnt try to just act more like everything is fine and how fast while some say they did wait a bit too long at least they got the ball rolling and put measures into place and by doing so they managed to greatly slow the curvethe main issue is for other countries and districts and such to do the same and im worried at least on a National level if the US will drag its feet into taking such measures till the level is out of hand more so then even in china or italy as the danger is if the virus doubles in general every 5 days it can quickly if not serious measures to limit it put in place go out of hand in quite a short time by calculations the US still has a few weeks before it becomes a MAJOR issue but the question is what measures will be put in place soon enough to combat it at least it seems in NY they are doing the right thing and have that area under lockdown that is infected i guess if that keeps up then greater hope of it not going completely out of controlbut it seems scientists are estimating still that the US could have anywhere from 70 million to 150 million infectedeventually we shall see just sad the number of people who still think its not a big deali was in that camp till i saw that CDC guys interview and saw the chart data on the rate of infection spread by country over timeyup doesnt look all that bad nowbut give it a few weeks and|0 Its good youre feeling at least a little better How about your brother Have you talked to him about how anxious youre feeling|1 Not indefinitely you dingdong Internet is a utility and theres a chance some communities may be locked down for more than 60 days They need internet access to get news and shit|0 It would be one thing if there were strong evidence that travel bans work But the trouble is they dont appear to be helpful At best travel restrictions and even airport screenings delay the spread of disease but dont impact the number of people who eventually get sick Instead they make it harder for international aid and experts to reach communities affected by disease They are also expensive resourceintensive and potentially harmful to the economies of cities and countries involvedChinas quarantine could inadvertently make people have less confidence in the government response Inglesby added It could increase fear about the outbreak in the public If this outbreak were happening in the US I would advise strongly against any attempt to quarantine a city A look at the research helps explain whyThey did a follow up on their Ebola article so heres the recent one on Wuhan virus why travel bans dont work httpswwwgooglecomhkampswwwvoxcomplatformamp202012321078325wuhanchinacoronavirustravelban|1 Black swans are the great weakness of highly centralized systems They function like a welltuned clock until a pin pops out at the wrong time and you get complete chaos and theres nothing you can really do|0 Its not that it can be saved but rather reduce damage as much as possible I must say it is a rather difficult balancing game to play to attempt the least combined damage of the economy and human costs as a politician|0 I dont know much about religion some Christian guy told me psalms 91 would protect him Based on your reply he seems misinformed Where does it state that the portion I quoted was from satan Id like to look it up and read that part too Thanks for the info|1 I love when I hear that The audacity of the people who say that blow my mind If I was in Stalins shoes things wouldve gone better and 30 million people wouldnt have died Also if this video is real I hope she is fine and doesnt suffer consequences for making this video|1 Its be so neat to create a hybrid homeschoolpublic school Kids do work in the morning and go out and play with each other for the rest of the day But I dont see that happening much if both parents are working|1 Nice Society is going to totally break down when people can no longer go to work This is only the beginning|1 It takes potentially weeks to die So that figure would be newer cases that havent resolved yet|0 I have even blocked people on my FB|0 Oh yeah and the trains run on time too|1 Your info is out of date First note herehttpstwittercomUWVirologystatus1238979702989049856 where UW Virology says that they tested 2360 PEOPLE not 2360 samples I trust them to know the difference What youre not aware of is that the CDC recently updated guidelines to allow certain testers to combine the nose and throat swabs httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVlabguidelinesclinicalspecimenshtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVlabguidelinesclinicalspecimenshtml This doubled UW Virologys capacity from 1250 to 2500 and has done the same for certain other private labs|1 EMTALA requires emergency rooms that accept Medicare to provide a medical assessmentstabilization to anyone presenting with a medical emergency What stabilization consists is often left open to interpretation httpswwwcmsgovRegulationsandGuidanceLegislationEMTALA|0 DrE commented 7 hours agoDrEOregon7h agoI am an infectious disease practitioner We are desperate We have less than three weeks of masks left and about as many gloves We cant order more Other hospitals only have days of needed equipment This is chaos of the greatest magnitude We dont have enough testing kits Every lab we have spoken to laughs at Pence and his 1 million tests by the end of the week We simply cant do it What is our government DOING This is exponentially increasing EVERYWHERE in the US The reason more cases havent been found is we dont have testsWe reached critical triage today with a single open ICU bed no floor beds and our nurses are calling out sick with respiratory illness We cant even test them to see what they might have so they are safe to treat patients By the time the government gets a clue we are going to be dealing with people dying because we have no supplies and no spaceYou can threaten to use war powers all you like but it cant fix that we simply dont have the capacity in the US to make the masks or the gloves Let alone the medicine|0 Theyre saying theyre not testing because there isnt a problem Its misleading and wrong Thats different than what youre saying|1 I think some of them were Chinese family members of Americans spouses and kids They only let Americans board and at least one person chose to stay because he couldnt take his wife and daughter so thats potentially 3 accounted for But yeah its concerning|1 I think the train never had the chance to stop at the station And the way its going now its derailed and heading straight towards a brick wall WHO isnt doing nearly enough to even attempt to stop spreading of the virus in my eyes its a worthless and meaningless organisation Leaving it to individual nations to control the virus It leaves nations like the US able to spread fake news that there arent many confirmed cases and that everything is fine over there It leaves countries like Italy free to not deal with it Countries can choose how they isolate people or even if they do What precautions to take if any at all And some countries use just that to keep face Its just a flu epedemic nothing to worry about And at that point it will just run wild and rampart There might be just over 100000 confirmed cases but I dont want to know in these countries that barely test and do nothing to contain it how much higher it is And at this rate Its surely going to surpass the 2009 swineflu pandemic Its not like the WHO will change anything by calling this a pandemic but at least it could be a wakeup call for people to actually try and stop it|1 United States Postal Service literally visits every single address in this country 5 days a week they have to see if you have mail to send|1 Just FYI China is a country with more than 4 times the population of the US with very competitive basic education but not good enough advanced education Just because you didnt previously see that many of them due to economic reasons doesnt mean they dont exist|0 Did you miss the memo when WHO took over coronavirus searches like a month ago To fight misinformation |0 13 CFR in Italy Thats fucking insaneThis threadhttpstwittercomseanludwigstatus1233428408916480001s19 shows what Italy was like just 3 weeks ago Crowded spaces people out just enjoying themselves Its difficult to not see the parallels between Italy 3 weeks ago and America today Im very worried|1 But the reason for the quarantine is because infection to symptoms is assumed to be 14 days I would guess they were tested again and probably had to have X time symptom free and blood tests showing no infection markers|1 Might as well suspend and eventually forgive the loans were about to see a gnarly economic recession |0 500 confirmed casesthey were severely limited in testing capabilities at that point They were well aware the number was in the thousands And who knows how many died before they could get tested or before a test even existed|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Yup When systems break down people can die for lots of reasons A heart attack you would have survived a month ago in Wuhan would kill you today A disease like this kills more than just infected people|0 Truth be told I wouldve been much happier heck overjoyed if I didnt get to say I told you so I dont want a pandemic I dont want to ever use my food storage just like I dont want to use my insurance But Im glad I have it Im really sad for those that are in the thick of things |1 They cant announce they have done any QE either before during or shortly after doing it as it would allow speculation trading based on the artificial rise|1 I mean anyone with a positive net worth and several month safety net could probably do something like this onceId imagine anyone who could do this comfortably would likely have a net worth in the 67 figures not including a retirement investment account Idk just spitballingI suppose you could also look at it proportionally If someone makes like 700000 a year this is like one day of work Id imagine anyone a regular at a restaurant with empathy for the employees could spare a days pay assuming their assets are more than their debtSorry Im no expert just a redditor with a calculator I work in multimillion dollar homes and usually the most generous of customers rare Ive seen will buy 100 of lunch every week for 48 months and trust me they could easily drop us all a few hundred to help with bills in a crisis and would barely need to write it in their checkbook|1 I know everyone wants Trump to make the decision but it should be handled by the statesI live in a state that shut down all its restaurants today I could hop the border easily and go to a restaurant in the next state where they are still acting like theres no problem This is absolutely a federal problem|0 Ooo big words though ACE2 lol what u think asians dont have MasR cells|1 I mean they probably had order s from the top down|1 Try going into an urgent care and say you display no symptoms but were in contact with someone that had corona We are in a test shortage atm you wont get a test if you dont display any symptoms which eldris doesnt have any symptoms according to his tweet I know this because someone in my family is an MD and told me thatHave and be famouscelebrity politician whatever else and youll get a test Its disgusting because some medical professionals cant get a testWe need a fix to this test shortage|0 Ive encountered it a few times Its freaky Within a minute of posting any positive news with reputable source link I get down voted Anything useful is down voted unless you can quickly post a comment in a new hot post making its way to the front of the sub Then you have a chance of people seeing it Mentioning certain governments is also a quick way to encounter the quick responses and down votes|1 Your math is wrong If war ends in 1988 he could have joined in 1988 If a person joins then at 18 he could be 50 now|0 A factory owners is telling you its not as bad as what you read on world news online but youre still droning in about how you know everything|1 Cant you just grow your ownHonestly why are people getting arrested for a harmless plant|0 This is what happens when we stop drinking|0 Ha I hope no one is eating plain rice and unseasoned beans unless they absolutely have to but being Caribbean and in Florida its a staple food I might be more used to than others Depending on how stocked your spice rack is you can do a lot with relatively littleThe two simplest that come to mind is using lentils A bare bones indian dal split lentil soupstew is just flavored with maybe garlic ginger and cumin And split pea soup doesnt need very much at all just oniongarlic and dry herbs like thyme or bay Of course you can use powders for the garlic and stuffIf you dont have any Id slip out and grab some chicken or veg stock cubespowderpaste That can make most things edible at the very least|1 Same lol i rarely go out i mostly stay home and read snd play video games|1 No testing we need to keep numbers down on our statswhats the official Soviet death toll re Chernobyl again Moronic administration|0 Whew Im good then |1 Trump will be backed into a corner soon enoughhttpsimgurcomgalleryEda1qezWe have 27 million uninsured people in the US They arent going to pay either|1 Wow How generous and kind|1 That fucking Bachelorette post put me into a fucking rageShe put a filter on her post like getting tested is some cool trendy thing Fuck this planet man|1 Whenever I get people telling me Im overreacting or theres no cause for worry I get reminded of what my architecture prof used to say to us when we had to design for fire safety Anticipate the worst case scenario at all costs Humans can be healed but they cant be brought back from the dead|0 The only shaming that you should be doing to people prepping now is shaming them for not having already been preppedThis is a joke please take it as lighthearted|1 Im still crazy and people around me are still looking forward to their spring break cruises|0 I dont understand why governments expect people to self quarantine Thats no different than that episode of the Simpsons when chief wiggum told the prisoners now I will let you out with only one exception that you promise not to commit any crimes Snake and the other dudes say yes oh totally man Wiggum unlocks the cellars and snake and the rest start running out of there only to rob convenience stores like before The logic of chief wiggum and the logic of the coronavirus response in this case now japan mostly the us is exactly the same|0 And this is the one country Trump exempted from the travel ban Thats some sciencebrained 4d chess right there|0 On the other hand if you knew the test status of every kid and every kids relatives at the school youd be shocked|1 Its not callousness its a coping mechanism Its easier to function if you dont have to think about the possibility of imminent death|0 Im not a doomer I just live in a county that is going on lockdown at midnight and ive been paying attentionHope you stay safe to snark another day|1 I sort of doubt the information discussed in those meetings is any more detailed or current than what we get in this sub so whatever|0 No I dont I didnt mean to imply that There is no PPE that is 100 percent safe unless youre working in a CDC BSL 4 lab and youre wearing essentially a spacesuit Theres probably not one of those within a thousand miles of the hospitals I work in and in the ER setting even if they were readily available are just completely unfeasible Even IF I had the time and opportunity to change into and out of full BSL 4 PPE we maybe have a single isolation negative pressure room per ER so no matter how protect I myself may be those droplets are getting out period|0 Ive been helping my family and inlaws stocking up on essentials zinc lozenges other medication hand sanitizers lysol wipes rubbing alcohol nitrile gloves two week supply of food My husband works as a pharmacist and they only have 2 disposable masks for the entire pharmcy to use Definitely mostly worried about him since patients just cough on him without covering their mouths Hes always the first one to catch any illness in our house Ive set up stations at the entrances of our home with alcohol wipes so he can sanitize his phone and bags before bringing them into the house|1 Postit note taped to the screen Hide it in your palm when they check the mirror|0 My fucking ass|0 I work with many spry and active 70 year olds They exercise more than many 20 year olds|1 We dont know how to weld so no worries there|0 Yeah Ive been doing this It only kills 2 Thats 2 that are receiving hardcore medical support 20 are going to need hardcore medical support What happens since theres only medical support for less than 1 What happens to the other 19 Uh They die They die of pneumonia because their lungs wont work and theres no machine to get them oxygen when their lungs arent working Thats 19 dead that didnt have to die if we FlattenTheCurve|0 There is no immunity against this virus anywhere in the world No vaccines no previous exposures Our immune systems dont know the virus is bad so it lets it be until it starts breaking crap then our immune system kicks into gear and hopefully evicts the virus From that point forward our immune system pretty much is doing some hightech recognition stuff to keep the virus from ever coming back Known illnesses like the flu and the measles are held at bay by herd immunity if germs infect 5 people but 4 hosts recognize and kill the virus immediately then only one person gets sick That keeps the R0 number low for this disease 5 people infected means 5 people sick|0 I hope thats an honest mistakePinging uF16KILLER|1 Thank you|1 Most employers would have Fit for Work meetings with you if you had 2 weeks sickness absence in a year Thats based on getting two colds a year and taking a week to completely get over it you might get more Sickness absence tends to be approached as you feel too ill to work not you have a mild case of the sniffles and dont want to spread it|0 What would you want them to do OP |1 Yes|1 Strange how the stock exchanges goes down by far the most in oil based economies like Norway Russia and the middle east Strange how all experts are saying otherwise httpswwwbbccomnewsbusiness51811972httpswwwbbccomnewsbusiness51811972 httpseditioncnncom20200308investingoilpricescrashopecrussiasaudiarabiaindexhtmlhttpseditioncnncom20200308investingoilpricescrashopecrussiasaudiarabiaindexhtml httpsmarketsbusinessinsidercomcommoditiesnewsoilpricewaroutlookstockmarketimpactopecrussiasaudi202031028977635httpsmarketsbusinessinsidercomcommoditiesnewsoilpricewaroutlookstockmarketimpactopecrussiasaudi202031028977635 Sure corona has an impact too but to say that it will go back to normal once corona disappears is moronic when this is clearly the reaction to the worst oil price wars in over 30 years last time it happened it led to one of the worst economical crises in history but this time it will have on effect|0 Our true nature is human nature You arent a bad person if you arent able to step up because you are scared like we all are|1 Same Yet my husband is still skeptical How can someone with a genius IQ with incredible skills a Firefighter EMT STILL have that mindset Completely baffling to me|0 they dont need 14 billion masks a day because for the entirety of February the entire country stayed home no need for masks when you are home i live in beijing and had 150 masks stocked at the beginning of february its now march and i only used 20 and i wear a mask at all times whenever im outsidethe production capacity is about 100 million masks a day in china now they now have enough capacity to ship masks to south korea|0 Actually its not xenophobia at all buckaroo We should stop tolerating the abuse and corruption in that country Every life matters human and animal|0 Yeah no tests here either No use testing if were all positive|1 There is a bright side It least to the suspension on the season and that became the moment everyone started taking this seriously|1 I will be messaging you in 9 days on 20200320 123229 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003202012322920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfgctg2allthegraphssuggestthatbritainandfrancefk3qlapcontext370 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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do when i go into labor will i have to deliver at home i would be considered high risk my husband is trying to convince me that they reserve the beds in the maternity ward for labor delivery but im not so surei know you personally dont have the answers but|0 I think hes referring to the trip he took w his family current success His dialect is sometimes strange though|1 Me too and your comment is what Ive been saying underlying health conditions could be anything from stage four lung cancer to eczema Unless we know the condition that means fuck all They wont name the patients and Impretty sure thats because the underlying health conditions are not severe and are pretty common|0 I feel like this has to be something they do in a episode next season|1 In the virus Ive been thinking the same Like maybe the virus has a cousin or something that causes no harm is undetectable infects heavily and causes people infected to act dumb Literally making people say Its just a flu|0 Interesting Ive been trying to find data on other coronaviruses that focus on ABO type Rh factor and also Lewis antigen status Just curious if there is any group with relative immunity as there is with certain strains of norovirus|1 Global pandemic Just coom away all your fears|0 Then you are going to be making 25000yr and Mom Pop will still do things you disagree with|0 Yeah you try convincing my employer that they need to disinfect potential fomites Ive already been told Im paid too much to clean yet they wont hire a cleaning crew leaving such surfaces to infect everyone I will face disciplinary action if I try cleaning to protect myselfProduction infrastructurePandemic flu infrastructure wont work for a coronavirus because its designed for inactivated whole virus Its been established that one of the surface proteins and theyre not sure which on coronaviruses will cause more severe illness upon exposure to the actual virus after being vaccinated with inactivated whole virusThe Recombinant technology BARDA has invested in though might prove useful but its a small fraction of the total production capacity we haveTheres also the possibility of using an influenza virus backbone expressing the targeted coronavirus proteins which would allow existing infrastructure to be used but we dont know if that will be effective|1 Where are you seeing that it includes retail stores Asking as a retail store manager lol|1 5779 new tests down from 6337 yesterday676 new confirmed cases An increase of 347 which is above average for the UKAlmost exactly the same growth as USA Spain and Italy when they were at a similar level Below Germany and Frances growth rate at this point883 negative rate 8 out of every 9 people tested didnt have it A bit worse than yesterday all round|0 As Chinese we do like the government and its the Chinese governments help to Italy|1 okay I agree but also kind of what does it matter everyone is sending their sick kids to school they are all coughing including the kids of my colleagues ie feverish yet at the same time laughing about the precautions I just started a new job and only have two sick days accumulated I have a mortgage I dont want to take my sick days now when Ill need them for when Im spluttering up a lung Im so frustrated|0 The problem is that we KNOW it will be getting worse tomorrow and the day after which to me makes the line more dishonest than factually accurate which it technically is|0 This is a harbinger of whatever you want it toWhats next When outside expert agrees with Chinese data you gonna come here again saying everyone is in a plot togetherGive it a rest already|1 Thank you for pointing that out I should have been more clear|1 No offense but I kinda want them to stay there I dont want infected people returning to the US|1 I noticed that this morning that the map no longer has totals by county Im not sure why that changed but Im not happy|0 Free I think you misspelled funded by egregiously high taxes|1 Were here for a good time not a long time|1 Kinda like the whole boy who cried wolf thing combined with the last decade of click bait the world is ending headlines|0 In lock down Unless you want to fly to the UK that is|1 Yea Im just saying China in particular kinda has a track record for buildings and other mechanical structures collapsing Again Im not arguing which country is the safest Things happen I know Chinas engineers are top notch But it just need to get rid of all the old structures that didnt follow proper codes|1 From monday to friday at leroy merlin and on saturday or sunday i work as security|1 Thats what im thinking too South Koreas death rate is sitting right at 059 which is reassuring compared to the 2 figure I see all over the place Especially since the South Korean population is much older|0 He goes to the hospital and by the grace of God theres an open stretcher for himJust having a bed is of no use to somebody who needs ICU care There arent enough ICU beds to help the 20 of people who will need them so the guy is better off trying to protect himself up front rather than just hoping that the overwhelmed hospital will be able to help|1 Then lets throw the original OEM in prison|0 Weirdly and this is probably a really old part of our genetic heritage fear causes mouth breathing in many This can also be triggered with surprise which is touching on the same response matrix This comes with a change in breathing activity overall which is priming the body for fight or flight will definitely generate a higher expression of body humidity and viral load in exhalation Gross huh So yeah its double crappy Dummies in fear when the fact is the guy with the mask is the safest person to be around in a public space Their outgoing breath is filtered to an extent AND theyre showing cognizant interest in avoiding or recognizing risk factors making them a further reduced rung on the ladder of potentiality Its another example of how deeply the average person can lack active higher level thought processes and self reflection in their daily lives People are so much more similar to cattle than they realize in many ways|0 How about your dad cooking and placing the food in front of your part of the house and you dont enter the kitchen for the next 14 days If everything else is separated that seems like a very safe solution|1 Well if California is smart they have a supermajority in the legislature and a Dem governor they can pass laws making it illegal to collect rent and bills during quarantine They can pass a law that creates an economic stasis in the state but they are not even willing to declare a state of emergency yet and someone has already died How many will have to die on the street before they take action|0 Right they were down playing everything|1 Wow how much do you get paid per post|1 Should I be worriedNot really at this time Its too early Am I infectedGo to a hospital and let a professional take care of it|1 There are severe international cases but more like a 10 ratio Hubei has total ratios not correct CFR of 83k severe including deaths 333k total for 25 Not adjusting for onset date For complete cases they have 2639 healthy discharges and 1068 deaths 10683707 29 death rateIf it was that deadly we would see it elsewhere by now Its not that deadly Its more dangerous than seasonal flu Im satisfied that is true But its not H7N9 or MERS|0 She wanted to see if people were interested not a big deal|1 why the fuck are so many countries trying to sweep this under the rug|0 the AttorneyGeneral of Singapore has declared that prosecutions under Section 377A occasionally still occur456 So yeah they still do use the sodomy lawsAnd they define presumed trafficking of cannabis to be 15 grams I picked up more than that at the dispensary down my street as a well behaved tax paying citizen in the USIf you feel those are fair thats on you but I think theyre pretty atrocious human rights violations|1 Alot of ideological warfare being propagatedThe joke is that in North Korea people have to be forced to listen to propaganda all day In the west they readily accept it through news instead The incipient idea that your country is always right and others are wrong insert label or sometimes just downright evil|0 I was denied in CO today too Im a teacher and left school yesterday with a fever and sore throat Kaiser tested for strep and it was negative I asked for a coronavirus swab and they told me that because I had a runny nose it was unlikely I had it I was told I could return to school tomorrow but my principal said to stay home District is closing Monday Ive been in bed all day with fever and cough worsening I dont know what to do|0 Nah this is more like someone refusing to wear seatbelts because its slightly inconvenient and saying when its my time its my time|0 Yup Ive already been stocking up on canned goods and bags of rice Anything I dont end up using which I dont imagine itll get that bad Ill donate to the local food bank|0 Theres a small chance that he caught after the conference or during the conference from someone else But if he has the version where he didnt show symptoms for 14 days then |1 Who said anything about free rentDefinitely agree with helping others My point iswas dont complain about not getting rent they took a risk investing in property to rent it out and profit from a human need now the world is in some madness hes moaning that someone who he has been profiting off cant pay their rent Its not the landlords fault really obviously the system is broken and they are playing it and sort of fair play to them I guess But dont complain when someone cant pay for your lifestyle when they are out of work because of a global pandemic|1 I for sure cant|1 Like that will get past Moscow Mitch and the Cheeto Benito He only proposed it because he know it wont|1 I mean their not paid horrendously if theyre retiring in their 50s Its not necessarily a UK thing but an NHS thing you can be compensated very well in private practices x200BSource An Exs dad was an ENT specialist at a private hospital I miss their house more than her|1 They used to tell us the world is flat economically speaking and that global capitalism made life betterI stopped believing it two decades ago and I never voted for Ayn Rand economics candidates anyways because if people arent always rational we cant expect always rational economic decisions Protectionism through tariffs doesnt work either costs are passed on to American consumers and small business Manufacturing of medicines medical equipment and agricultural supplies should be done at homeI dont care if the next IPhone or Kindle is delayed I do want life essential business to be under our control and not reliant upon other countries during a pandemicMy 19 year old is a type 1 diabetic He needs insulin and pump supplies plus testing supplies My wife and I are healthy in our early 60s but we worry about older family members This is starting to look more like 1918 than 1957 or 1968|0 Surely this is a possibilityIf true an indirect advantage of aggressive testing is showing the true rate of infection and what subsequent containment methods do dont workEither way South Korea is doing the whole world a great service|1 Sounds like something leaking from the rleafs sub|1 this is true 3 5 hours at best from what ive read|1 Big advantage of being a software company right here You can have all your employees work from home as long as they have computers and working internet I predict that software based tech companies will fare better in the coming months economically Hardware companies that have a significant portion of their industry in the USA may be slightly better off as well|1 Italy is the second most elderly country in the world a high CFR doesnt mean they are doing this wrong Its more like the virus got into Europes nursing home no offense to young italians I know you exist|0 Orange man bad This sub has turned into rpolitics very quickly|0 No idea|0 Damnit I wish that werent true|0 0 chance of that eventually they would have to tell so there is no reason to lie|0 No one should travel to Sweden either Our health agency is either lying to us our are extremely incompetent I dont know which is worse|0 travel bans are considered racist so that means avoiding the most likely demographic to have visited China in recent times is also racist|0 You mean the city Im from that has had a collapsed building downtown with dead people hanging out of it for months isnt handling this well Im shocked|0 It has now been shown that active and passive tobacco smoke seriously damages health and also promotes respiratory infections We are therefore not surprised that recent studies of Covid19 have shown a more severe disease risk among smokers A third more of Covid19 positive smokers had a more serious clinical situation than nonsmokers upon admission and for them the risk of needing intensive care and mechanical ventilation is more than double These studies also speculate that the smokers condition explains the gender difference in the reported lethality rate which would be 47 in men versus 28 in women In fact the prevalence of smokers in China is very high and exceeds 50 while that of women is less than 3 Ceasing to consume any tobacco product is therefore even more important today In Italy there are 116 million smokers 22 of the population over the age of 15 There are over 7 million men who smoke and 45 million women Among students aged between 14 and 17 111 and 134 occasionally smoke Attempts to quit smoking have been on the decline in recent years but scientific research has confirmed that when you quit smoking you will get many short and long term benefits After a few weeks the respiratory gas exchange of the circulation improves the cough and respiratory problems improve Quitting smoking is possible In Italy we have AntiSmoking Centers present all over the national territory where specialists are able to help smokers in the process of cessation of the consumption of tobacco products also through personalized interventions We use the need for changes in daily habits which this epidemic imposes on us to mature the need to abandon the consumption of tobacco and nicotine products Call the Green Telephone against smoking 800 554088 active from Monday to Friday from 10 to 16 for information and support for change|1 Im sorry I feel you there|0 Why the fuck is our response so piss poor Rhetorical question Im sorry Im really panicking today|0 He called for those changes but he did NOT get them The Congress passed its own version of the budget Dont you remember the fighting over the wall|0 If the government were committed to this containment approach that involves self isolation they would discourage public gatherings to limit further infections and ENCOURAGE the approach by providing economic relief No sign of that yet|1 2am press conference Thats seriously early Serious shit hitting the fan|0 That was my thought as well Although part of the drag on the recovered is Hubei has strict policies to show you really arent infectious before they let you go|1 This went from a sub that you can get useful sources and articles to a sub that just spreads fear panic and Were all fucked basically because I told you so|0 Im sure he did but if he does have it they wouldnt announce it|1 Perhaps there needs to be sub rules with an official ban on unsubstantiated rumours News reports and relevant discussion topics only I am sure a lot of people are feeling anxious about the situation I certainly am and rumours and theories are only going to make that worse and since mental health has an impact on physical health and anxiety can reduce the immune response anything which causes anxiety must come under higher scrutiny|0 Fucking mike is late with my hummus again Smh my head|0 Imagine being THAT level of greedy|0 Last week three of my friends kids were seriously ill One tested positive for flu A The other two negative and the doctor passed it off as a mystery My friend is a coronavirus is just the flu person She asked me to babysit two days after the kids got sick I said no She got mad at me Tough shitYesterday she asked me if I wanted to go to a fucking exercise class this weekend Our university just closed abruptly our city is almost on lockdown and shes asking if I want to go out for an exercise class I told her no Im not leaving the house except for necessary errands She got mad again These people will only understand the severity until someone they know dies Meanwhile theyre spreading germs all over the place because theyre assholes|0 To be fair if a panic broke out then transmission would increase as people mobbed stores etcWhile people here are correct this will be bad creating a panic andor scaring people will only make it much much worse|0 Lots of clips floating around of people on the ground all in the exact same position with their hands on their chest presumably alive but unresponsive Too early to confirm anything Ive seen at least 6 clips of this|1 Im hoping they do martial law at this point Im high risk and my roommates wont stop going to the gym and going out because theyll be fine as they say And my favorite if I get infected i know what to do Im an adult They clearly dont understand how contagious this virus is and how deadly it can be|1 We gotta get these tests out to professionals like now Why is it so hard to test people|1 Sorry Mike it gives me heartburn|0 I hope someone can pass this message to the news channels as well|1 I cant wait to read how this research was done Its so interesting to me|1 By the numbers the Bubonic Plague was 10 times worse but tbh I think if the Spanish Flu would have hit in 1347 it would have probably wiped out 7080 of the worlds population I mean medicine wasnt worth a whole lot in 1918 but at least they had figured out transmission by that pointThe Plague they just didnt realize wtf they were doing a series of unfortunate events and many people died unnecessarily being trapped with their sick loved ones Its down to 600650 cases a year now and can be treated with antibiotics pretty easily|0 Not a stupid question at all We need to have some frank conversations about this and that has yet to happen|1 Sounds like a lot but with a population sitting around 14 billion it really isnt|1 Well I do soI had two very bad bouts of flu some time ago and I had a fever for a long long time so it turned into a habit that stayed It calms my anxietyAnd know re warm drinks Ive noticed aaall possible fluctuations from fooddrinkexercise etc|0 The 1918 flue season was much worse than the 1917 oneWe will get another bump of cases next winter maybe a BIG bump|0 Yeah Gates has been running public health charities for a long time now too|1 Yeah if you write the list that way it seems like they didnt shut down anything but we both know thats not true They only didnt shut down shops that sell necessities like food inlcuding pet food im sorry but we cant starve them medicines electronics how are we supposed to do home office without electronics etc Furthermore you need good reasons to go to a shop else you get fined Multiple people were fined in italy because they went out to buy a console And the rules for industries are getting so strict that many industries here in Modena are shutting down for a week or more|1 Oh sorry English isnt my first language What I meant to say is that people are buying one month worth of food and items in one morning|1 Or youve been infected and recovered|0 Im hearing Aberdeen but thats rumour So frustrating how locations arent publicised for hours or days|0 One method of flattering the curve and reducing the load on hospitals assuming they dont make it to hospital in the first place|1 Ive read a post which said First danish corona patient released from quarantine one week after testing positive Set to return to work on Tuesday He hasnt been tested for further virus shedding but only been evaluated by MD Article in danish httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfes8j9firstdanishcoronapatientreleasedfromhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfes8j9firstdanishcoronapatientreleasedfromIts just 5 days agoSuch a reckless decision surely indicated things will go worse Just hope its not too late to contain the virus|1 Jesus Christ Murica No mandatory infinite paid sick leave no social security no single payer health care I got used to that But no triple ply What the fuck|0 Politicians should do the same leave it to the scientists and give them what they need to handle the situation|0 Ha probably correct|1 And do you think that the staff will happily work as much as they can if no incentives are given|1 Top trending hashtag on Twitter right now is CoronaVirusChallenge|1 respect this is the way|1 I couldnt imagine my landlord being able to evict me during this People will riot|0 This is obviously a political choice by Trump personallyWhen the CDC goes on TV they tell the truth He doesnt like that When Trump goes on TV he lies About everything If his lips are moving hes lying He lies about the weather FFS He lies about raping teenaged girls He lies about his fake orange makeup He lies about helping Putin and thwarting Congress He lies about why he pardons his criminal pals He lies about this virus too Do you honestly expect him to tell the truth about something this important Hes afraid that if America knows how bad the problem already is and remember hes been briefed for months now every day in the PDB That the stock market will crash more worst in history and the economy will collapse and Bernie will get nominated because he actually believes in government Doing Stuff to make peoples lives better and he will get creamed in November And he cant allow that to happen because the FBI already has 100k pages of classified counterintelligence investigation depositions and sealed grand jury testimony that will result in DOJ pressing charges after hes out of the White House Against him his kids his friends and multiple actual billionaires who front him cash and karma to pretend to live a rich guy lifestyle which he hasnt been able to pay for the last 20 years since he squandered his daddys fortune went broke repeatedly and sold his soul to the AC mob and Kremlin cash Literally Hes going to die in jail if he tells the truth If he lies maybe he can fool us all a little longer and live one more day in his sick twisted funhouse of lies and treason Given the mess hes in and its an epic mess the only sentence for treason is death we have to NOT be surprised when he does seemingly unthinkable and stupid things Like tell America everything is fine When his CDC has been denying testing for weeks just to delay the inevitable stock market crash that happened this week Schools will shut down soon Then jobs Then the economy Then the election Then he loses and then hes in jail and dead Just like his pedo pal Epstein This isnt fiction Or even conspiracy theory This is current events Just read the news Its all happening Trump is hoping that if hes somehow really really lucky hes hoping deep down inside that maybe hell die in his sleep while still in office Then hell be a hero to millions a martyr and his kids wont have to go on trial and spend decades in prison after hes deadBut if that dying in his sleep in the WH doesnt happen hes probably planning already to declare a national emergency this summer and martial law this fall and find some way to suspend the election because virus crisis and 10M dead for example and keep power for himself For this reason doing anything that would prevent the spread of the disease now and prevent it from getting really really bad thats bad for Trump So its not happening Which is why today he issued a gag order preventing the CDC from even speaking to the press without running everything through his new Czar Pence And his HHS minion who is literally already under whistleblower investigation for intentionally allowing federal employees to contract the virus at Travis AFB and spread it to Vacaville and hotels and airports and cities all over the country Already Accidentally but on purpose I wish I were kidding But Im not This is all obvious Isnt it|0 They should just add masks to all faces lol jk probably replace with public health advice|1 Honestly with peoples lives being prioritized over one another it should definitely be taken into account what they had been doing Went partying on spring break Bottom of the list Went to a club Bottom of the list Etc peoples grandparents and parents who actually tried to stay safe should be prioritized over idiots who went partying and weakening their immune systems with alcohol while partying|1 Same experience last week in Sweden no controls whatsoever Bergamo airport was checking incoming passengers I understand in Italy they need all resources to fight the emergency I dont understand why countries dont enforce a check at arrival|0 Makes sense if you think its going to spread everywhere soon Prevents other countries from buying up your stock and leaving your own country with less Of course it has all sorts of secondary effects and itll probably end up in some EU court in a few years after this all blows over|1 If you have a workout partner then Skype them while you do calisthenics at home We live in a wonderful age for connectivity make the most of it Doing different types of exercise can also stimulate your muscles in new ways and lead to great growth so if you usually use freeweights then try something different and try calisthenics No equipment needed|1 Thought the same thing Last night he seemed like he had a frog in his throat|1 Bill Gates is pure evil|0 Might as well just say it anyway the more people you can clue into how severe things are the better theyll fareEven my close friends are looking at me like I have two heads but its two weeks from now that has me really worried|1 Damn I forgot about the Brits taking their ball and huffing off the playground Thanks for the correction Then the total IS basically the same as combined population of the US and EU 772mm vs 760|1 Rice Super cheap and nutritious 1 lb dried has enough calories to last someone a day 20 lbs costs less than 10 usually Multivitamins Cover nutrient deficiencies Oatmeal Fiber is good Canned meats such as spametc Spices and seasoning Frozendried veggies Any other food items to prevent getting tired of eating just damn rice|1 Will any reporter have the guts to ask will tests be free how much will they cost without insurance will there be any aid for people who cant afford to miss workthe press is a fucking joke|1 I wish I could stay home I cant though because i need pay|1 Just staying at home with my baby 8months and ordering food from online supermarkets instead of going out My husband will work from his homeoffice for the next week Oh and I wash my hands frantically every time a package gets delivered But Im lucky I dont have too go to work atm especially via public transport Stay healthy Most likely everything will be fine Just ordered some masks for fun|1 No When jackass said good luck everyones going to lose loved ones because were going to do nothing wasAre you stupid Wait you voted for brexit didnt you Makes sense nowDont worry about it the conservatives are getting you your country backDid you miss the could in the title of that article|1 Popular plague games were you can control the evolution of things like bacteria and viruses can sometimes have difficulty infecting Greenland and Madagascar In the games you can usually infect most of the world but one or both of those countries closes its ports off to prevent spread Since theyre not touching other countries it greatly limits infection vectors Greenland has already been infected in real life which sometimes leads to winning the game Attention has then been on Madagascar Its closed its ports which in the game usually leads to losing the point of the game being to infect 100 and then kill 100 before the infection is cured or before they close off from the world to prevent infection|0 Once a week is for prophylaxis prevention For Adult bodyweight 45 kg and above310 mg once weekly alternatively by mouth using syrup 300 mg once weekly started 1 week before entering endemic area and continued for 4 weeks after leavingFor treatment For AdultInitially 620 mg then 310 mg after 68 hours then 310 mg daily for 2 days httpsbnfniceorgukdrugchloroquinehtml500mg twice daily is still high though the Chinese have reported no adverse effects 3g can be a fatal overdose so the Chinese are not leaving a huge margin|0 Dont give up Keep raising your voice and do what you can Youll be looked at as a hero later or at least a very kind and decent person Ive warned people for weeks Im going to be the person thru this who treats others as I would have wanted Dont let those naysayers bum you out Forgive them for their ignorance and Move on and tell others|1 A growing number of the community spread cases in the United States are in just 3 countiesYes but those are counties with known early infectees from outside the US So they started testing earlier there and did more testing in the US so far more means 0 Conversely the more places we test in the US the more community transmission we find The frustrating thing is that this data can fit two different hypotheses 1 WHO Lower transmission lower cases2 Higher transmission with higher asymptomatic mild in healthy nongeriatric lower casesMy gut has been pointing toward 2 but I cant eliminate 1 Both still seem plausible|0 I agree 4K people have died in China and the numbers are slowing down There are 14 billion people in China This is something to take seriously but a headline like that is just ridiculous fear mongering|0 I was trying to let people come to that conclusion themselves Once upon a time for a long time I was aggressively vocal about my disapproving stance on religion But you attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar Take care friend|1 GP has no access to testing All we can do is route via Public Health If they refuse based on travel history then the pragmatic thing to do is to treat as per worst case and isolate|0 The thousands of well armed meth heads in Renton vs the national guard My money is on the tweekers|1 and make them explain the difference between total deaths and death rate|0 Hi uJustAsadINFP hope youre doing okay|1 Reddit legit asked me to keep up to date with 7 popups at my home page tell me to come to this Reddit the popups didnt stop till I joined it no wonder you gained more subs|1 Could somebody explain to me why therere so many high ranking Iranian officials got the virus As bad as the situation was in China therere barely any noticeable examples of this kind|1 people still dont care|0 Ha ha lololol|1 Too bad my boss is an ass|0 This Please guys refrain from hoarding as much as possible I work at a grocery store and I cant stand seeing this happen everyday for the past couple of days The regulars that I see every week are coming in and aimlessly walking through aisles unable to find food because they didnt get the chance to stock up the way everybody else is I left my shift crying today It truly is heartbreaking Theres no need to be buying canned food that will last you a whole year Its disgusting|0 You nailed it I did this calculation a while ago just based on California Theres 395 Mil in California If half of us got it and 20 require hospital care that would require 3950000 hospital beds In the WHOLE USA there are only 930k hospital beds We are in more trouble than most people know Telling people to go about their daily lives will no doubt exasperate this outbreak I would hold off for at least 27 days in selfquarantine before visiting Grandparents or any older friends Im 37 but most of my friends are in their 60s|1 Omg the DNC has control over German news media now When will the madness end|0 Im not sure why everyone thinks this is a disease you catch from other countries The concern right now is communitybased spread We dont know until we look harder|0 Yeah I think our demographic we target will shift We might get different customers out of this but these next couple months will be critical|0 That it would get out of hubei That it would get out of china That it would hit a major city Etc etcIve been following it since Jan 24th Everytime I read give it 2 weeks I see it come trueThe one thing I dont see true is how dangerous it is This shit could really be like the flu bit deadly to compromised immune systems no one really knows But one thing is for sure The USA is about to be swamped 2 weeksCDC wouldnt say there is about to be a significant disruption to our daily lives if that wasnt trueCorrect or incorrect|0 And Im sorry but at that point you are a disposable worker drone in the colony because if you stop working for very long people start starvingId support the government giving you a percentage of the EI funds earmarked for COVID19 response as hazard pay though and even priority treatment if you catch it and become symptomatic|1 Then you Americans need to take action and start a movement or something try to stay home and safe I honestly dont know what you can do but I hope you do it anyway|1 oh no Ive been owned by a Deplorable|0 South Korea numbers is baffling with only 57 1 severe for 7150 casesThats their death rate not the rate of severe caseshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus|0 Thatll solve it One sick person on the makeline hundreds of new cases a day Not sure if anyone has worked fast food but if your scared of germs I wouldnt eat there I work at a big name pizza chain The biggest and one of my delivery buddies came in before he even clocked in stuffed a sauce cup in his mouth to be a jackass and then put it back in the box of hundreds others This behavior is pretty normal at a fast food restaurant|0 Actually does anyone have the permanent damage numbers on hand I couldnt seem to find it in any of the sources I looked for Either way if it is a significant part of the 20 Critical numbers thrown around were looking at a huge bump in long term medical costs|1 The statement is a bit specious or at least misleading There is no degree or accepted definition of overreacting so the statement is meaningless But there are well supported accepted and valid tactics to being prepared or crisis managementnone of them read Step 1 Overreact cuz then you know youre on the right trackIt sounds like some are vindicating their panic with this quote Panic is never constructive or useful Stay calm That does not mean dont be prepared it means carefully and intelligently planning That also do not mean the opposite extreme and do nothing There is no overreacting if one is strategic and well preparedIt also comes as a strangely ironic that the American government caught flatfooted is validating such unconstructive behavior|0 Theyll cough on you on purpose CDC can make it better SKorea has drivethru testing wo needing a dr noteLook at their pamphlethttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiFile0222ECBD94EBA19CEB829819EC9888EBB0A9EC8898ECB999ED8FACEC8AA4ED84B0EC9881EBACB8jpg|1 I agree I go to a college downtown and i have so much anxiety going to class ttc and GO|1 The celebrities are paying private companies up the nose to get tested Direct your outrage at the government for not testing more not at celebrities for buying a test for themselves|0 Like Verizon during the Camp fires|1 Sounds cruelSo what next are we going to pay attention to global stock to observe the real situation|0 This happened to me I was tracking this over last 2 weeks and sharing daily updates with my colleagues Every morning someone would update my model prediction table with actuals and send on company group They would mention how scarily accurate it was We had a daily ritualThis fucked up all that I quit|0 could you please elaborate on this please for a recession noob The worst thing you can have in a recession is debt|0 Give Rory his due I genuinely believe he cares yes hes hideous but that shouldnt skew the fact that hes a good un|1 Sneeze in your home Go to a hospital come back a couple weeks later and touch your contaminated surface and get sick again|0 Use of a moisturising agent after hand washing is fine Dermatitis or cracked hands will cause you more concern|1 Im a member of a local facebook group for food service people I saw someone asking so if we cant have people come in and eat could we open our patio and have people sit outside and eatIf you dont clearly spell out the rules people will always look for a loophole|0 My instructor closed our school and not one student has asked for a freeze on our membership payments Make sure they understand youre looking out for their safety and practicing good self defense I would hope they would understandEdit My instructors thoughts on the subjecthttpswwwfacebookcom1031171793posts10217830755453841|1 A certain percentage of young people will have severcritical symptoms based on comorbidities and just plain circumstance Since they have strong immune systems compared to the elderly it would also be fair to see them appear later in the progression of the epidemic Unless there are numbers attached to a tweet that tell us how many are showing up we cant assume what is actually going on Also considering the disease it assumed to be fairly wide spread you will start seeing these outlier appear|1 Its like we brought in plastic notes in preparation for this You can just wash them|1 Viral load too low to pick up on the tests Its below the threshold for the test to detect|0 Dont listen to trump or his admin Im really disappointed that we have trouble getting tests and running tests I live in LA We have over 10 mil population in just LA alone Why cant we get tests and why is there such trouble to run tests At least my relatives in Korea have gotten tested and the public is taking it seriously and trying not to spread it around Then we have idiots that refuse to believe the fatality rate and think just Becuase theyre healthy theyre fine without a single thought about how it can affect others Just blows my mind how ignorant people are here in the US at times|0 Good bot|1 I have a question about an upcoming trip to HawaiiI am selfquarantining no symptoms no contacts mainly because the show I work on just shut down for the next two weeks Ive already stocked up and dont plan to leave the house We have an already paidfor trip to Maui in early May If we again selfquarantine prior to the trip to ensure we wont be bringing the virus there what is the riskI have halfmask 3M 62007500 respirators and P100 cartridges that I fully intend to wear through the airport We can don our N95s while on board for more comfort i expect the plane to be nearly empty anyway Once on Maui well be snorkeling on deserted beaches all day and holingup in our Lysoldrenched hotel room the rest of the nightAnything wrong with any of this|0 The WHO is a political entity that uses bullshit lawyerpolitical level speech to say nothing Better to not expect anything from them as theyre ignored by everyone anywayTheyll declare it a Pandemic once the whole world including MSM would be talking about a pandemic Exactly like they did with declaring the Epidemic the state of emergency etcTheyre like your very drunk friend who understands a joke way too late when everyone already changed the topicI dont understand why anyone is still interested by the WHO as no country including China is caring about what they say anymore may it be for trade quarantine bans testing procedures etc|1 Have you seen the shit in Africa right now|1 Write to your congressman It takes all of 5 minutes to write the email Demand transparency This is an act of aggression|0 All good Just trying to keep it real in a unreal worldtime|1 Its the same in the UK My feelings They cant deal with the virus There is just no point Its going to be spread Many of us will catch this We know we cant stop it What they need to prepare for is the cases where treatment is needed They are going to try and sail through this best they can a keep calm carry on approach This has the potential to topple governments Big companies and other such at some point So just no point in testing people and picking everyone at this stage That makes sense to me Though to the individual its pretty shit|1 Poor people|0 I wish hed close down malls Driving by Vaughan mills yesterday the parking lot was full|1 Viruses are inert most of the time so they are at the mercy of their inherent structural derived properties and so dont have things like heat shock proteins or changing solute or antioxidant concentrations or the composition of lipid membranes on the fly like other organisms So very important to understand the environmental conditions Although I understand the structures can change due to mutationrecombination events|0 Thats what I figured I wish there was some way they could have informed her sooner She went to a birthday party for an elderly family member If she caughtcatches it I know she would not make it through|1 Yeah he could have just shot instead of stabbed and got it over with|0 A lot of children have died in China Ive seen a video where they stacked three child corpses on a tarp in a Wuhan hospital|0 Its going to be hard or impossible to not be changed As you age theres a creeping sense of death being more real than theoretical and many people become subconsciously focused on getting whatever they want faster so they have time to enjoy it before death and more accepting of the notion of getting said things at the expense of others especially other younger people because thyeve got more to live|0 True so theres probably a sweet spot of the right measures that have impact but arent too onerous|1 Its almost as if they are trying to hide the actual spread of this in the hopes that it will just go awayBoth Pence and the head of the CDC Redfield are science deniers and extremely religiousTrump believes he was chosen by GodIt could also be that there is money to be made off the tests themselves when only private labs are testingI have a terrible feeling that things are about to get worse than Wuhan here and that we dont have the ability to do what the Chinese were willing and are to do|0 I see I guess Im ignorant I thought China has dealt with this sort of thing before|0 Honestly thats probably worse than that because with all the problems with ICU were probably going to go past triage of let older people die and save younger people and go flat to You have a family well save you and let this person with no family die or as far as its already the end of the world as we know it Were all doomed You work at Walmart you can die Youve taught yourself a trade were going to need carpenters to rebuild the world well save you|0 not sure what racism has to do with quarantining a ship with over 80 of people being your own countrymen|1 and who the fuck are you|0 Io sono nellhinterland nord di Milano e ti dir qui la gente ha assaltato le esselunga e gli altri supermercati ieri e in molti posti hanno finito acqua e altri generi|1 How can we stop the spreadHow about we implement a policy where someone goes door to door interacting with as many people as possibleGood job china |0 Sky was owned by Murdoch but was nothing like Fox News Comcast have owned Sky since late 2018I think our TV news in the UK has a lot of rules that stop it from just being opinion mouthpieces for any political leaning but I cant be bothered to check lol Our print press definitely doesnt and thats where Murdoch tries to have his influence in the tabloids|1 This is beautiful to hear Thank you|1 Madness|0 You dont really need that much training Tradespeople use these everyday I have a stack of them that I use for woodworking And the usage is far more important because theyre preventing lung cancerThis is just an agenda because they dont have enough They dont work if you dont use them correctly No shit Its not rocket science|0 Thats right keep licking subway poles like we all do right|1 Plz test more people Ontario Community transmission is occurring and you have no idea yet|0 Singapore has been doing this for a week now What we really need is Wuhan style lockdown but our gov is too concerned about losing money to make that call|0 Youll have to forgive me I know I saw that somewhere else but Ive looked at so much about coronavirus it would be an hour to find it in my history I will bump you again if I find it|1 Well the confirmed case is way more higher in Shenzhen than in Hong Kong so maybe|1 Still looking for symptoms I think we need a baseline from a supposedly unimpaired major city in Asia Japan would be a good candidate|1 This is going to backfire No one is taking notice yet but when people start to realise the magnitude of it hes in trouble Hes going to go down in history with blood on his hands|0 My husbands friend got it from his humidifier which he probably didnt clean well enough Its just an unlucky bacteria to breathe in from dirty air handling systems or anywhere else it can get aerosolized from He mainly just had a mystery fever forever I guess some sign of a lung infection and kept being given different antibiotics that were not helpingeventually they figured out it was Legionella not a competent health system and he got IV antibiotics for it Took out a fair percent of his lung function|0 It was a repo not free money|0 We dont have anything like this in my brothers school Im glad about it now though |1 Norway has a small population and a 1 trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund originally created from oil money now entirely funded by the foreign private sector|1 Its possible if he completely mishandles the situationNot really something to hope for as it would mean he messes up so bad that we see people dying in the streets|0 Actively|1 Better go to a hospital Be safe glad youve made it back|1 If banks and big businesses get billions in bail out then American citizens need to be able to collect 1000 a month untill further noticeIf various big companies and industries get bailed out but many Americans end up losing a loteverything you will see it at the ballot box come November I think thats why they are moving so fast on this|0 Thank you I had understood Italian orders were priority but hadnt seen specific mention of contracts|1 Its not but good luck when the mob comes for you Gouging would be a great way to break the toilet paper hoarding cycle If the shelf is empty the price is wrong|0 For some retarded reason ourDenmarks Ministry of Foreign Affairs doesnt consider TrentinoAlto Adige a risk area yet and therefore they only recommend quarantine for the other areas in northern Italy I cant see why this particular area shouldnt be considered a risk area|0 Being self employed my lowest option for reasonable insurance was 780 a month for just me Thats how great our insurance is in AmericaEdit Once I hit my deductible they would only cover 50 of ER visits and major surgery|1 The world burns while people play politics |1 Nice that they are being transparent about how completely fucked they will be in 2 weeks|0 My mom and her friends know theyre fucked and that the government has given up on them but she was able to chuckle at that So shes listening to us and herself and not relying on the fucking government I think some older people just need to be educated Its not their fault their government isnt giving them much info We probably just need to help them understand Aussie|1 As a Chicagoan I hope not Especially just for an opportunity to get fucked up and look at green water|1 You arent going crazy by preparing I have family currently under lockdown in Spain This is happening Have as much food as you can afford to have you dont want to have to go outside for essentials when others are panicking There will be an initial panic when people who have not prepared at all are trying to get items then things should settle down Look at webcams of Italy things seem orderly there Spain is early days but it also seems orderly Watching them helped me relax a little httpswwwskylinewebcamscomObviously I have no answers for what will happen after this Just try and focus on taking one day at a time and try and only worry about things you can change|0 Tbf I heard at least 3 one for singing one for music one for clapping all set for different times They are almost like those annoying message chains|0 Imbeciles who still think itS just THe fLU like the majority of the idiots I have to call family Ive been warning them for weeks and they wouldnt listen the only ones that took me serious were my brother and the girl that Im seeing VA state governor calls a state of emergency and then they were stuck at the Walmart on Thursday at 11pm panic shopping Yall want to know the best part they still dont think its a big deal and if they get sick its no big deal because we arent old I tried to explain to them that its not about them that the goal is to not overwhelm the medical system but Im sure their plants and the NSA listening in on our phones were paying more attention Its because of that kind of stupid attitude that makes martial law a complete possibility in my mind|0 ay congrats good to hear|1 Oh no Its gonna hit Antarctica soon What else do they need for this to be declared a pandemic It already is one|0 Not sure why youre getting downvoted but Im sure I will too Its absolutely legal for an employer which in this case the federal government is to restrict speech given in an official capacity as a representative of the company Its a stupid move in this case and I hate that theyre doing it but it is legal|0 My company was the same Then someone got a suspected case BOOM that day we had an all hands and was told we could work from home|0 Stop panicking people I wish we were this careful over stuff like the flu|0 bad credits not gonna be much of an issue if the economy has completely crashed and people are unemployed|0 It was the infected cruise ship Case incident|0 Its kind of silly to assume that the whole country will some how have warmer weather all together Thats not how it works In my area we wont have temps above 65 degrees until at least midApril early May 80 degree weather is in late June or even July|1 I hate America so much|0 Lol|1 47 tested out of 2500 Im sure there are a lot more positive cases|1 Antibody titers arent good measures of reinfection amd will not tell someone that theyve become infected often until long after they start transmitting their infection to other patients And most patients who retest positive via RTPCR ARE NOT getting reinfected THIS IS MALARKY The RTPCR test has an extremely high false negative rate This is global They are releasing patients after two false RTPCR tests but the probability for that happening is 9 given a test sensitivity of around 70 CT isnt always practical but even most medium and small hospitals have CT machines FOR THOSE THAT DONT a chest x ray with suspicion for viral pneumonia plus a negative blood culture for fungal and bacterial pathogens and negative influenza and respiratory pathogens panels in a community where transmission is occurring can diagnose COVID19 in 24 hours or less|0 Alcoholics will find any excuse to drink|1 Dont worry Jared Kushner is reading up on it He got this|1 I think you need some real life support Is there a local health official you can call right now tonight for some help|1 In 2018 Trump forced the CDC to cut 80 of its budget Why Because pandemic preparedness was an Obamaera program|0 Florida will be fucked|0 So a worker at a shop told me last week Nobody is buying condoms Toilet paper is flying off the shelves but the condoms They havent moved In 9 months we will have a new generation of idiotsGod forbid in 9 months the virus still isnt contained Itll be a boom of kids with no hospitals able to safely take them|0 Is that not a GREAT show I stopped at the end of season 2 for some reason and now thanks to you I will pick it up again if and when I am on lockdown I always have things to do here Usually too many|0 If it turns worse I will head to ER In my case the Dr is 4550 minutes away about 60 miles No need to infect others or tire myself completely out unless Im in distress|0 Only if we start testing more effectively|1 Ive been staying up to date with all the latest literatures on covid19 and I havent come across any studies that implicate the blood type I havent explicitly searched SARSMERS study on it so if someone has a reference that links blood type to virulence I will be happy to get educatedGiven the virus doesnt replicate in your blood and rather difficult to detect the virus via serum RTpcr I highly doubt blood type would play a role But thats my educated guess|1 This is a guess from a nonmedical professional Your body has a natural immune response to a virus If you take medications that surpress the ability of your body to produce an immune response that could cause the virus more time to replicate within the body and make it more difficult to stop the progression of the virus|1 My mom is literally on a cruise right now I am going to laugh my ass off when she comes back and is pissed that she is quarantinedEdit I only really get to laugh at her pain because she is a registered nurse and definitely should know better She has all that medical knowledge and she decides to go on the cruise anyway smh|0 No way masks dont work according to the US officials|0 China just disappeared a wealthy man who was saying this so theyre not trying to change their way Guess somebody needs to change Chinas ways for them|1 Id say confine everyone to their rooms and get an external crew border force idk to come in with hazmat suits and sterilize Obviously provide food and other necessities to the people in their rooms and anyone who shows symptoms could be moved to a treatment facility|0 Probably are this whole sub is one big overreaction Remember when last week we were talking about R0 of 5 Yeah that shit obviously got shut down Its been like 2 weeks since this shit came to the states and were still at case 12 Is the CDC really that incompetent or is this sub just full of anxiety riddled idiots If the CDC is stupid then why are all the other nations barely reporting the spread Tomorrow this sub will find something else to freak the fuck out about|0 Not great but truthfully if that makes you everyone feel better then please use it The virus will cause problems but not as bad as people expect|1 My parents are in their 50s they still have plenty of time to enjoy life I dont want them to get this virus|1 In SK those recovered have to get negative test result for few consecutive days to get the title recovered I think thats why their recovering speed is much slower than Iran or Italy That and the fact that they are discovering at much earlier phase|0 tq just post an update I assume it will last long another month I dont know how crazy youre all sit in the house without moving out or normal talk|1 What the fuck does he know about anything He lobbied for the tobacco industry for many many yearsDear auntie has lost many friends on the left by design|0 We are at war is the right translation|0 Can you explain to me what US governmentfunded Radio Free Liberty has to do with this discussion|1 Hes young Corona wouldnt kill him|1 Worried yes but there is no need to panicIts good that you have masks use them wash your hands frequently Stay inside as much as you can and this applies even more for the older people And yes stay up to date as to how things are panning out|1 People are still going to movies coughing into their hands and paying with cash then putting the ticket in their mouths before giving it to the person who takes them Were done for|1 I dont know but all the people in the US I know that do drugs are very compassionate|1 Yep there will be more races I feel ya tho I trained for one 5 yrs ago and if I hadnt been able to do itJust dont let your training slide too much and youll be good for the next marathon that comes alongAnd if you do go dont take the Gatorade cups that get handed out They always stick their fingers in the cups when they pass them out Bring your own|1 Youre wrong At least compared with Italy Of note Italy has about 318 hospital beds per 1000 people while the US has 273 per 1000 source epidemiologist and advocate for factbased reporting httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfg91ihheresmyusbasedcovid19updatefor030920imanhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfg91ihheresmyusbasedcovid19updatefor030920iman|0 There is no feasible way to keep the country quarantined for a year its impossible|0 this is my biggest fear|0 Have you gotten The CDC said people like you are totally overreacting|1 Guys I used to work for GS They dont own those interactives the companies that put them there do like Sony Nintendo and Microsoft If GameStop is caught with them turned off they have to pay fines They even have reps that are supposed to clean them not the GS employees Its a contractual agreement GameStop made with those companies Dont get me wrong I dont shop at GS anymore but this one isnt their fault|1 Models are made with current available data Based on current reported rates that will be the estimated resultsObviously as we progress changes will be made and will skew the data|1 US aint doing shit Why This current bull market run up has been one of the longest With alarming signs here and there and trillions in debt calling it an epidemic will create panic and boom this bull will be dead Trump is the last person who will allow a bear market to emerge before he is done with his Presidency Just a theory But highly plausible Whats up with not releasing the coronavirus figures in Florida anyway Im skeptical I hope you all are prepared for when the virus hits hard|0 Try eBay I bought 100 of N95 for like 150|1 Thank you for the quick advice I wasnt expecting such a quick response Im mad that theres hardly any mainstream info accessible to me regarding the usefulness of masks here in Europe If you could answer one more I have a 3hr exam will probably take 2hrs though in an exam hall with upwards of 300 international students that I cant miss unless I give up my degree Is it okay to wear the disposable mask for that duration or should I get up to the bathroom midway and properly change it Thanks and sorry for the bother Im asking questions left and right on reddit these days|1 Trouble is that once you have thoughts then prayers will no longer seem like a logical option|0 What rule are you talking about Youre just telling us about your anecdotal experience there is no rulestatistics of culturally selfish grandparents that I know of do you have any proof to back up your ideas Any peerreviewed studies etc Id be interested to have a read at them|0 The Phase I and II trials have already been doneyears ago Phase III trials underway right now in China httpsclinicaltrialsgovct2showNCT04252664termRemdesivirdraw2rank2It is expected to be completed and the report available in April Fast Track FDA approval after that Large batch manufacturing has to be done to create enough of the drug to fill demand My understanding is that is already in process through licensing agreements with Gilead the developer This is part of the FEDGOV Pandemic response as outlined in CDC and HHS papersplans which is to fill the vaccine gap that is find a pallative medication to be used to cure until a vaccine can come on lineThink in a matter of very short months instead of a year or more for a vaccine|1 Good that mean they read some relevant materiel and prepared for the conference|1 Definitely not immune See elsewherehttpsoldredditcomrCOVID19commentsfjzjpcrelationshipbetweentheabobloodgroupandthefkqhux2 in the thread many with O have the disease Its just that theres a small but statistically significant perturbance in the population proportions vs the infected proportions|0 Until now I never thought I would find data strangely eerie|0 Can we get this updated please|1 Serology test would not differentiate between someone who has an active case and someone who got it and has recovered The only people who test negative in a serology test are those who have never been infected or who were infected very recently and havent developed antibodies yet|1 But If youre dead they dont have to pay you Clever|0 This was expected as mentioend herehttpsoldredditcomrnewscommentsezo8xncoronavirusmegathread2fgs6lkgcontext3People shouldnt draw false conclusions from this and spread panic|0 They have won my preference for doing this|1 Kindly consider childcare aspect of the workforce If we close schools nurses cant find childcare cant go to work at hospital more people will die|0 Rats I thought you were talking about a human study lol|1 Exactly I would rather work than stay at home Unfortunately I work in the hospitality industry and we already got hit super hard Our hotel hasnt officially shut down yet but hourly staff is supposed to stay at home until further notice and just use whatever PTO we have left I have 6 days of PTO after that well who knows BUT I would rather work through this whole thing|1 I predict that the UK will close all schools and universitys and ban social gatherings within 2 weeks They should do it today|0 Where are the Superior American scientists|1 Hey there welcome First congrats for finishing your prep Its a great feeling to have one less thing to worry about as much I havent seen any scientific articles about being overweight I am in the same boat with you I can easily hike for hours at a time but am considered clinically overweight I have been hitting my elliptical daily trying to strengthen my lungs and heart as much as possible I want to be in the best shape that I can be in without stressing my mind or body out further Get some rest get plenty of vitamin C and try not to obsess|1 Not anything like Christian Rock but relatively linked to Christian Wood|0 Using my shift to research what people think of the company Im clocking hours in really hits the spot when you have helped 4 people in a six hour shiftUPDATE we all get 14 days paid leave definitely a lovely surprise Feeling a lot of relief and joy for all the Nordy kids out there|1 Dont forget higher education standards|1 Appreciated|1 Done more than Donald incompetent Trump|0 Why are we seeing so few recoveries in the US right now Is it because we are getting slammed with cases and in two weeks there will be alot of recoveries Or is it because a majority the of cases reported so far are severe|0 The White House has been responding to non stop lies about them ClaimsLiesCDC official was fired Wrong he quitCDC funds have been cut Wrong they were proposed cuts for 2021 CDC has proposed 25 billion dollar package in Congress now Fauci was muzzled Wrong as Pence was named the leader of the task force he is to be the face and they wanted to get their messaging straight Fauci himself said he was never muzzledTrump said COVID19 is a hoax Wrong Trump said the blame being put on him by democrats was a hoax Responding to never ending stream of lies is not politicizing His current strategy is to pray to virus away IS politicizing|0 They could afford it but theyd rather get rich off of it instead|1 Por que no los dos|0 Yes but this place is only recreation We also have a medical mj place owned by the same people|1 they clearly do not look like they even scared of catching the virus judging by the amount of masks seen they probably care that theyll never get food again which is stupid|0 People still dont believe My sister says my concerns of coronavirus make me seem like Im part of a cult|1 The WHO is absurdly bad We need to disband it and start over|0 Not only thatThere is also the theory that STDs and normal African Sleeping Sickness and Vitamin defficiency play a role in AIDS Especially Selenium or lack thereof Remember that AIDS is the ONLY and FIRST disease where a Retrovirus causes problems Retrovirues are usually inertSo that is weird And Also its the ONLY disease where having antibodies to the HIV virus means you HAVE the disease Normally when you have antibodies you are immune Hence the scepticism I was born in Africa I dont fucking trust anyone Not to mention the Amyl Nitrate in Gay nightclubs in New York and all over the world which DESTROY the immune system still available httppoppersguidecomforum10209httppoppersguidecomforum10209|0 Is it ok to go to eye and dental appointments|1 You think they have an adequate stockpile LOL I wish When the federal government started putting up signs and publishing information that specifically told the public to NOT wear masks I knew they were utterly and horribly unprepared I bet theres very little to no stockpile of masks My stepdad is an HVAC guy and hes figured out that you can use N95 or N99 furnace filters to make your own masks Obviously a real mask would be ideal but since all the masks are sold out theres plenty of furnace filters left if people get really desperate I hope this comment doesnt lead to people panic buying furnace filters|0 I agree on all counts If it was my private practice Id have more flexibility and would be Skyping by now Have to follow hospital protocols which is to remain open in the office for now Ive started telling those who have been in to call our crisis line that connects to the hospital if they need to speak to someone Ill start telling them to tell their friends and loved ones as well Hoping for the best for all of your people too To be honest aside from my immediate family and friends I think of those I treated and finished working with prior to all of this starting who were suffering with severe anxiety and OCD who made wonderful progress I hope theyre still using the tools|1 It is known that the virus can be infectious for weeks maybe up to 4 weeks even if the infected person doesnt show any symptoms Italy imposed a travel ban on Jan 30th the virus imported into Germany from Shanghai was detected Jan 22nd in other words people who returned from China before the travel ban had weeks to infect others if they didnt shown symptomsIt would be interesting to know what hospital the Italian doctor came from who was tested positive after his return from Tenerif Many medical experts get infected because they underestimated the seriousness of the virus He most likely got infected by a patient who wasnt tested for the virus|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Sorry but fauci already said the media misconstrued his story and he was not silencedVice President Mike Pence created a firestorm after he informed agency officials that all messaging related to the coronavirus must be filtered through his office but a senior Trump administration official said on Friday that was only a temporary pause to ensure proper coordination Pences policy led to some career experts canceling television appearances though they have told lawmakers the administration is not silencing themWe want open clear rapid fast transparent communication the senior administration official said pointing to a Friday press briefing with White House officials and Health and Human Services Department Secretary Alex Azar and other media events Pence is just trying to make sure theyre not unintentionally scaring the American public by having people on at every hour of every single cable network and saying different things each hourhttpswwwgovexeccommanagement202002whitehousepledgesprotectemployeescoronavirusletexpertsspeak163419|1 Exactly The fact that we cant leave our municipality also makes contact tracing WAY easier IMHO that measures gonna stay in place a bit longer than some of the harsher ones since it doesnt really disrupt daily life|0 Per virology on mod team The virus has no obvious genetic manipulation feed into other HIV refutations etc and is ostensibly just a wildtype virus related to SARS and another sampled bat progenitor virus If it escaped from a lab it was essentially unchanged from the form in which it was originally isolated in batsintermediate species pangolin So either it was isolated directly from a batpangolin taken to the secure lab and promptly released with no modifications or it came from nature The latter being the entire reason this class of virus has research going on at Wuhan in the first place|0 I agree being able to move around and not be that sick is what makes viruses really spread because people just force themselves to go to work|1 I believe so since it will become a new strain I could be wrong though since Im only going based off what Ive read|0 Its quite surprising that the traffic surge hasnt caused the site to go down And now I jinxed it|1 Likewise Have not been prepping for Coronavirus as such Am prepping for panic buying and supply chain disruption Im happy with what I have Should be able to subsist comfortably for awhile including Toilet Paper |1 If this test doesnt work then alot of models just became broken|0 Yep it does you have mixed it with water but I dont know how much|1 I meant stopping quarantine now sorry|0 You cant support an organ mate|0 Bullshit|0 Well compare the peaceful policies of China with the ones of the US which starts a war of aggression based on lies every few years weapons of mass destruction in Iraq incubator babies in Kuwait the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin and many things the US does in order to justify its countless wars and breeches of international lawMake an international poll You will probably see that there is hardly any country that is disrespected as much as the US because of the countless lies US governments tell to justify the US lawless behaviorIt is also obvious that no other population is as propagandized as the US population From outside it is obvious what a shithole the US is full of homelessness crime mass imprisonment and because of the strong lobby of the militaryindustrial compex it starts wars of aggression all the time But most US citizens dont even understand in what a rogue state they live they are so propagandized that in complete contrast to world opinion they ignore the crimes of US governmentsBut when people from the US where a large part of the population lives in poverty and the Middle class loses purchasing power every decade even think their country is greater than China where prosperity increases with every generation this becomes completely absurd The propagandizes zombies in the US seem to be completely unable to see how they are exploited by their oligarchs and how the oligarchdominated US government violates international law|0 Along the same lines why do countries think underselling or plain hiding the outbreak makes them look better Wont the countries that were the most honest aggressive and therefore least affected look clearly better in hindsight How is it worth a few days of not so negative press to keep your numbers lowSo fuckn weird|1 i have been having the same thoughts i have anxiety which is making this all harder for me to deal with but i do know that there will eventually be a vaccine and this disease will no longer be an issue|0 Who runs your union Are they on the board of directors as well Many unions work for the companies they are supposed to be protecting us from These corporations have a hand in everything workers arent safe Consumers arent safe We need to stop consuming But thats a different subject for a different time This would be a baby step|0 Lol I dont give 2 what some idiot celebrity or athlete says and anyone that does is as dumb as them|0 We are only postponing our economy getting wrecked The longer we wait for it to go into a recession the worse it will be I suspect that in 2 years when all of the world economies recover from this china will come back way ahead of us in all industries because they will be long past the virus fiasco by the time we get past it Those are my thoughts I also think any chance of trump getting re elected were lost in the last 2 weeks because his underplaying of the virus will lead to much more detriment on wall street the only thing hes done well for during his first 3 years in presidency|0 I dont allow my grandpa to shop on his own Im happy taking public transport to and from Morrison for whatever he needs so long as he is safe in his house We even share shopping with our neighbours if they need it and them with us Times like these that really show if you can rely on your community or not|1 My company was a recipient of millions of dollars in CEPIBMF funds For that I want you to know I am extremely grateful and busy|1 No income for folks who cant WFH And guess what even if you work from home you might get laid off soonThis is the harsh realities and consequences in the next few months if we are in lock down Some people may even say that its better to risk getting sick for two weeks and then resuming life vs being in lockdown I can empathize with those folks|0 Ok if Walmart can do it in the name of national health and security then dammit Im looking at you fast food franchises|1 Companies that take no risk arent making a profit NOT producing lung treatment equipment during a lung disease pandemic is the dumbest move a company can make Toilet paper companies shutting down production right now would be a little less dumb by comparison|0 Agreed|1 I will be messaging you in 13 days on 20200322 185649 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003222018564920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCanadaCoronaviruscommentsfey0ydalotcanchangein2weeksfjyc556context31 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCanadaCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffey0yd2Falotcanchangein2weeks2Ffjyc5562F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020032220183A563A4920UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fey0ydInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Well US press conference now there is no difference between meetings of 10 or 25 people thats just splitting hairs so if some states want to say 25 thats fineThere you go thats the governments understanding of numbers and spread what do you expect from the people Some own rational thoughts|1 The problem youre discussing is a temporary one that gets resolved when this is over People dont come back from death youre missing the bigger picture|0 Nah the Oxford student union is entirely different from the OU The OU thankfully still allows fringe controversial ideas to be presented The OSU is fucking retarded however Trying to remove statues and heritage Bunch of idiots|0 I said this a few days ago with that initial hour long press conference If people have issues or disagreements point out specific quotes or time stamps and provide contradictory info Was downvoted and labeled trump supporter even though I voted D in last 3 elections There could have been comments going point a b c are wrong go to links x y z for more accurate up to date information However mods locked threads within hours and vast majority of comments are just variations of orange man badComments that just make fun of trump misspeaking or just reading a headline without reading actual article and posting angrily dont bring anything to conversation People are sick and dying and people here are just bickering like petty children|0 And now i wont be able to sleep because ill be busy worrying about the lack of sleep ive been getting Mr Stark i dont feel so good|0 Shes supposed to call but theres a hotline theyre diverting sick people to Nurses approve you for testing but if course they approve hardly anyone since there arent that many testsShe gets worse every day Shes suffering so much but they wont test her Shes a salesperson in DC and before she was sick she was in contact with thousands of people at festivals and businessesWell try again tomorrow|0 Dont worry chinas got it under control guyz|1 I thought babieschildren were faring super well with this As in not even showing any symptoms|1 Giant crowds of people at costco is not prevention Its a huge risk of getting a giant number of people infected Stay home Dont participate in the mass hysteria Stop worrying about toilet paper Our ancestors didnt have toilet paper|0 You are wrong Did you watch the video He explained it|0 Im with you Ive seen multiple articles going around my local social media with the headline masks are useless Then I read them and the actual text is really only pointing out that careless use of masks can be counterproductive Or that illfitting masks are worse protection than perfectly fitting masks These weak points are right there in the articles but people just keep parrotting the inaccurate headlines Saying masks are useless is both wrong and immoral IMO|0 Wow|1 The data I saw didnt specify which type I assume its inflated by Type II but I did immediately text my Type I brother and wish him well with all this|1 Just want to make sure nobody buys all the masks|1 I think what you are doing and the way you are doing it is splendid|1 Oh man Im sorry youre having to deal with this Ughhhhh|0 Your post has been removed because of a persistent pattern of behaviorThis may include but is not limited to Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing way|1 Wow well if the Feds dont call it that then I guess that makes it OK Im sorry you were sucked into a pyramid scheme You are not the first or last who will fall for something like this The best thing you can do is get out of it now while you still canCheck out rantiMLM if you need more supporthttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHerbalifeNutritionPyramidschemeallegationshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiHerbalifeNutritionPyramidschemeallegations|1 I will also say if China tanks that has grave implications for us I have a good friend that is a supply chain logistics manager for a large US corporation that has their product in most vehicles in North America He is not allowed to go to China right now and has indicated that supply chain disruptions are going to be severe fwiw|0 Miami here Went grocery shopping today for my regulars didnt have an issue however cleaning products along with water TP werent available also potatoes I was able to find them at my local Aldi though My friends are on vacation or doing some spring break related thing as evident on snapchat Ill admit I still visit my boxing studio as usual but I havent done the spring break thing partially cause I hate people most days anyways also I have previous asthma history as a child so I rather not take the chance Miami Beach has set an 11pm curfew Im scared for the future of the service industry Not panic here yet |0 Good bot|1 There arent that many rich But agreed this should be based on your income|0 You were specifically talking about the tencent numbers lol|1 Thanks Will have to look them up|1 Yes I am in the city I am not really worried about it I bought Castile soap and I leave my baby gate to the kitchen open so I can wash my hands as soon as I walk in I also have a tiny spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol to spray my dogs leash when I get in I still touch my eyes and nose all the time I need to work on that I already have a thermometer stethoscope blood pressure cuff and a pulse oximeter so I can check on myself if I do get sick I have a mask that should be arriving in a few days If shit gets bad before then I can just bring the alcohol spray bottle with me when I take my dog on walks And I am young and healthy so my body should be able to fight it off|0 I never even use toilet paper Im too clean secret is a good diet lots of fruit same toilet rolls been sitting there in my bathroom for years wonder what the expiration date on it isMy girlfriends bathroom is another story she goes thru plenty of TP maybe I should get a few dozen rolls for her |1 Im not advocating for China to open the markets back up I personally do not want them to HOWEVER as my original comment indicates there will be pushback and China will probably open them back up Just like what has happened previouslyDont try to put words in my mouth That being said using Coronavirus to call other cultures stupid is stupid|0 Tom hanks has it Im taking things very seriously now|0 Is that still the case this yearIn Hongkong because everyone is wearing masks the peak flu seasons ends earlier for more than a month this year Our hospital is surprisingly empty for this period of year|0 Cant harm tourism If they ignore it might go away|1 India just had three fresh cases yesterdayi 1 Italian tourist travelling in a group and visited 56 citiesii 1 person in Delhi who arrived via flight from Austria He had visited Italy Apparently the flights from Austria were not being screened very thoroughly as it was considered as a no threat country until last week This guy then had a dinner in 5 star and proceeded to Agra to throw a birthday party for his kid with five other families attendingiii 1 person who had visited Dubai and spent some days with his Hong Kong colleagues He landed in Bangalore and then visited HyderabadSo the things have just started to look bad|0 Yes|1 They didnt say 16 will die They said 16 of 510 will die Really Thats what they said|0 When youre calculating CFR the formula isdeaths recovered deathsThat is because the metric deals with resolved cases So for example if we found out that 1 million people got magically infected instantly at 100 PM GMT yesterday a simple deaths infected metric would show a really low death rate But thats not a very good metric because many of the infected may die Any one infected person may take 26 weeks to resolve as either recovered or deadSo when only looking at recovered cases that puts the CFR a lot higher than 34 as that figure is a simple deaths all confirmed cases What will inflate the CFR is if we have a lot of cases flying under the radar eg widespread testing failuresOn the flip side recovered cases also tend to take a while to materialize and lag behind deaths But when this whole pandemic passes and all the data is laid bare the formula we will use to calculate the known death rate is CFR|0 They make rape victims pay for their own test kits and subsequent care Things really need to change|0 just hire an ass licker its more sustainable than toilet paper|0 Bunkers wont do them any good now theyll just carry the virus down there with them|1 People have been threatening to party like theres no tomorrow for like a century Guess we shouldnt be surprised theyre doing it|1 With a population of 1108m in Wuhan considering Chinas death rate of 712 deaths per 1000 people then Wuhan would have about 79000 natural deaths a year That should be 6500 deaths in a month not sure the math on crematoriums of course not all 6500 natural deaths in normal times would be cremated theyd be buried Not sure Chinas burial vs cremate rates So even if we have 6500 cremations per month crematoriums could only handle so much that already exist Its hard to build new ones in a snap and given other reports it seems likely there are mass graves being burned|0 The solution would be to make a shitload more but propaganda is cheaperThis perspective is flawed and unhelpful Shortages are a likely result of modern supply chain dynamics not moustache twisting corporate villains those guys are playing the derivatives market instead of funding UBI3M and other manufacturers of n95 masks are at this time increasing the production of these masks And selling them for money because its not about cheaper its about profit Oh yeah also theres a global pandemic Maybe not everyone on earth is an asshole maybe shits just complicated and no one was prepared for a global pandemic Are youAlso its not like everything else 3m makes just stopped being important Theyre not sitting around with a mask factory that is waiting to make 8Bn masks overnight If they stopped producing everything else tomorrow people would dieInstead of caustic hyperbolic invective I invite you to use a serious and well reasoned mindset And when something makes you cynicalpisses you offdoesnt make sense Ask questions instead of assuming they are just spewing propaganda because its cheaperWho is they and what is cheaper than making a profit selling masks|0 You are assuming crematoriums are designed and working at under capacity from the start Due to operation efficiency reasons most should be designed and working at near full capacity based on normal demands|1 China will take every opportunity to piss on Sweden because we dont bend to their political pressure when it comes to freedom of speech and other liberty issues China is in no place to criticize anyone during this crisis that they could have hindered if they acted right away instead of silencing scientists The decision to not close schools is based of pretty solid logic Children are not driving the pandemic And the many many thousands of parents who are vital to society during this crisis need to work not stay home with their kids What was the best decision will be made clear in the future but from what Ive heard on both Swedish and international news theres no need to close schools|0 I have gotten a bunch too I think a few companies are trying to promote digital options Pay bills online order online and pickup in store or have items delivered A lot of it is just silly Target is having people clean their touch screens every 30 minutes etc|1 Corporations at least have to have a profit margin So you cant buy at costand a good productLike cars with malfunctioning airbags or baby powder filled with asbestosGov will just tax and taxAt least taxes benefit society rather than the 1 ostensibly|1 Dont listen to this guy Hes coping hard Read the comments around reddit from just last month Its just a flu bro Now look at the sentiment Now look at the virus itself Its increasing exponentially Cases doubling every 3 days|0 httpsktlacom20200212tarzanamanoncruiseshipquarantinedinjapanhospitalizedforcoronavirussymptomswifesaysVerified You people are so strange Why would I lie|0 so theres 2 in hong kong or 1 in hong kong another in japan italys ship still on lockdown any other cruise ships thats a horror movie|0 Well good luck|1 Cholesterol Thyroid Blood pressure Inflammation White blood cell count Nutritional markersCertainly one of those markers is slightly too high or slightly too low If so no worries Dying to coronavirus is perfectly within reason|0 Yeah I read it before coming here and was starting to wonder whether I needed to have like 30 days of food ready to go|1 I work for charter and we cant work from home but we hired a new cleaning crew member whos sole purpose is to wipe down doors handles etc This was announced last week I have seen him once Not to mention or normal cleaning crew has been sparsely seen at best Only other communication we received was to stay home if you are sick but you will have to use benefit time assuming you have some Time taken off that is unexcused will be reviewed on a case by case basis My main concern about this is that FREE internet is provided essentially to all employees in this CC but we dont have the option to work from home This particular CC has 400 employees and at any given time at least 100 reps on the floor sitting with 4 feet of eachother So much for social isolation|1 Fauci is pretty much a Saint and Ive been critical of most everyone in governments worldwide The man is a genuine humanitarian and a great mind able to simple splainin big concepts He has worked in six presidential administrations and is highly viewed by his peers Early on he blew the whistles but media opted to ignore since stats thrown at them He says its deadlier than Spanish Flu based on evidence here Did it in front of Trump too and did his mic walk off Hes a beaucratic bad ass Starts at 42min for Dr Faucihttpsmyoutubecomwatcht2460vomj53x5aB3YfeatureyoutubeInstead we spent time talking about effectiveness of masks and shaming panic buyers|0 Of course nothing is free but you all could act like a civilized society by providing universal health insurance to every single person in the country and fund it through a progressive tax system Like pretty much every other developed country already does|1 Look at what happened in China About 700 million people were put in quarantine Travel was restricted to and from affected areas That means the affected areas came to a standstill regardless of business People were sick or avoiding getting sick so very few people could work The economic hit is large once the virus becomes entrenched in the community because no one can work safely So isnt it smarter to carefully manage the risk in the early stages and attenuate the economic hit Our Canadian government decided not to ban travelers from affected countries So now not only are we going to enter an economic nightmare but were also going to see family and neighbors drop like flies|0 If Covid19 pushes the US health care cottage industry and lawyers playground into total collapse it might actually get fixed Eg Trump could lower the Medicare age to zero and then not raise it afterwards Nothing is farfetched when his reelection is at stake|0 That sub is fucking atrocious Reddit is really bad at things like this|0 Chinese person here Stop saying this is fake There are cases in China where the only convergence between an infected and infectee is they took the same elevator that day at different times Please take this more seriously Previously we had a post about the coronavirus symptoms could suddenly turn acute That happened in China too and is well documented Yes I know a bunch of you hate China and hope we all die But we dont hope any of you die so please listen even if you take it with a grain of salt|0 Thank you guys for creating this sub Ive been caught between utter panic and being told its all gonna be fine and the info sub for the virus doesnt allow any sort of optimism I need this space for dealing with the anxiety of the situation|1 China is already restarting its economy The hit of the quarantine might be minimal All they had to do was face this instead of hiding the head in the sand|0 Tonnage is probably not a great metric to use here without the corresponding amount of money it costs youd have to thinkNice to see in any case however|0 Or Vietname Patient 17 or the Chinese that practically infected his entire city|0 Stay home If you experience shortness of breath call for instructions Do not go based on early symptoms Bad for you bad for the other patients|0 Haha I knew someone would take that stance You obviously didnt select through the NYT link it sources for that fact which doesnt have that number Please show me the source|1 Statistics HypotheticalEdit better way to demonstrateYou can pick from a jar either 1 blue lottery ticket that gives you 5 chance of winning there are 20 blue tickets in the jar or 25 yellow tickets each giving you 05 chance of winning there are 200 yellow tickets in the jar Out of all the tickets in the jar one blue one and one yellow one will win Which option should you pickSolves toBlue 120th chance 5Yellow 25200 18th chance 125Now instead of tickets you have patients and instead of winning the lottery they have a chance to need ICU care Everyone who does not win might have only a flu or pneumonia we do not know editSo do 50 year olds recover oh yeah absolutely they dont all die from what we get told Totally does not exclude the possibility of something like above going on thoughI am not a doctor|1 Uhso two were infected on Fridayand the January man in his 30s was released where did this guy in his 50s come from The one on Friday was a woman in 50s and a high schoolerNew case found on Saturday|0 From hoax to national emergency in a week|0 Im with you in Florida on selfimposed lockdown Im fortunate to be able to work from home and all face to face meetings are banned for 30 days in my organization Yet my friends are all out at bars last night and today and they were in the crowded stores yesterday I just cant understand it Its not like a hurricane that we can see is still offshorehurry get to the store for supplies Its here and we cant see it because up to a third of infected people are asymptomatic but contagious and our state wont test you unless you are in the ICU or you have traveled to ItalyChina youve had contact with a confirmed positive and there are few confirmed positives because people are being denied testingEdit up to a third have no fever and people can be contagious before exhibiting symptoms|0 Baffles me why completely healthy young people who dont live with an at risk person are swanning around in these masks Like at some point your going to get corona and its not going to be any worse then a cold|1 It makes it kinda easy to blame someone when youre able to say something like this pandemic was handled poorly due to the cutting of our pandemic response team|1 Like students who DID show up got F automatically|1 Imagine if some one didnt tell him and on the 16th day she gave it to him and he died|0 The rate of infection in Canada is proportional to the ease of travel to it from Wuhan If u knew about chinese culture u will know that people flew from Canada to Wuhan disease free for New Years They got stuck in Wuhan so didnt bring it back to Canada Calm down and use brain instead of attack|1 Not OP but they may have been confusing it with this Its 3 hours instead of 15 minutes but they started shipping them Fridayhttpswwwwishtvcomnewsmedicalnewfastercoronavirustestmadeinindianapolisbyrochediagnostics|0 Welcome to Ohio|1 With the amount of international travel through Wuhan and its industrial nature I wouldnt be surprised if we were at 25K cases but the time China actually went public 30000 or more international travelers per week go through Wuhan Probably way more when the New Year ramped up|0 He balmes absolutely everything on other people Anything goes wrong its someone elses fault and even when he cant do that he sort of rages at the universe The people who get sick with apparently healthy lifestyles just have hidden lifestyles For example the famous fitness enthusiast and runner kim fixx apparently ate huge quantities of junk food behind the scenesIts very rare you find truly healthy people who are healthy even when no one is watching them Many fitness enthusiasts are over stressing their bodies eating stressful fad diets limiting essential nutrients binging etc|1 Yes I am all with you I wish for more preemptive solutions too Im just stating the current status quo here in Germany since you said no schools are closedRegarding closing all schools the german government already said thats going to be happen but right now the infrastructure isnt ready for ityes this is a major problem for working parents with childrenIts mostly a problem for everyone being sick since health care workers have children too and we cant currently afford it that they stay at home Most of us wouldnt care because we are allowed to take paid sick leave days not only for us but for our children tooIts currently about assuring that the health care quality stays on top of its game and sending half its workers home to care for their kids isnt a good idea our government thinks They are currently working on plans how they would mitigate this and than you can close all schools and so on Thats why all collegesuniversities are already closed because the side effects are minimalPeople think everything is so easy Just close the schools bro No shit Its all about optimizing the strategy and currently the experts are of the opinion that losing X of health care workers is worse than Y days of not closing schools right now|1 I see it as a responsibility for us not to contribute to the inevitable strain this will have on our health system Anything we can personally do to limit spread should be done I dont see your move as an overreactionit is good to be cautious|1 Notice they stopped the antibiotics within a day as his condition worsened This prophylactic antibiotic treatment has got to stop They kill off the gut bacteria which are responsible for driving a huge percentage of immune response|0 Agree the man is an utter bellend His argument is purely economic putting his profits before peoples lives These whingeing billionaires looking at you too Branson are hard to stomach|1 On a side note here in Canada we have not detected infected patients coming from the USA so far But we have seen many coming from countries with exploding epidemics such as Iran and Italy and the proportion of cases seem to match the severity of the epidemics in these countries An encouraging sign that it may not be that widespread in the USA hopefully|1 Disgusting|0 We are talking about shifting blame can you explain how my quote removed blame from anyone|0 Good sub I think you should message the mods to put that sub in sidebar|1 Oh I agree completely but too many corporations that are too big to fail play fast and loose to make extra and increase share price because they know the government will bail them out|1 Hmm Better add a zero or two|1 Wait what the fuck What was their justification for this|0 He has been tested believe me As president he has the best care in the US and there are certain things like this that are beyond his control for national security reasons He has been tested|1 I wasnt saying that his comment was factual I was simply stating that somebody can give dire news and ask the reciever to not panic Whether or not you believe him and whether or not you panic is up to you|1 Vitamin D is amazing The happy vitamin|1 What drugs are good for this|1 Which is technically smart Stupid people panic if theyre fed fear Hell Smart people panic too sometimes|0 Yup I keep seeing it too thats why stores are putting a limit on things And surely these parole arent using it all I bet they are the jerks selling it online for triple the price I saw a lady last night clear out multiple shelves of bread What the hell will she even do with that much bread It goes bad fast anyways I ended up having to buy some weird bread Ive never heard of which is fine it still tasted good but save some for everyone else|1 There honestly needs to be mass protest at cdc hq Where is antifa when they could actually save livesEdit oh busy downvoting apparently My bad carry on heroes|1 He has the biggest incompetence The best incompetence Nobody has better Bigly|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Not entirely true about the Feel unsafe call out with no negative attendance points That was more for the media image You have to call Sledgewick and get confirmed to take those days off but ultimately is it is up to the store manager who can flatout deny it after youve been confirmed Unless somethings changed it is still in your store managers hands so you have to hope that your store manager isnt a doucheBut yes if you have gotten sick then you get paid for sure|0 Good news for the kids bad news for grandpa and grandma|0 Thanks|1 I wouldnt count on that in Australia its probably reached far more widespread community transmission than is being reported Stringent criteria for testing mostly But we have cancelled large public gatherings and so on Grand Prix was called off last minute Basically the same level of response as similar countries in Northern HemisphereAlso Im wondering if you accounted for testinghealthcare limitations in places such as South America and Africa That could be skewing the numbers a bit|1 Me neither Can see him going for leadership in the future I think hed be popular with voters|1 Civil war most likely|0 I thought they said the risk was low man|0 And destroying Venice for a cherry on top of the large melted sundae|0 Even the Hermit Kingdom cant keep that up forever and is going to need help one way or another If they manage to keep the virus out for 1 years until a vaccine exists theyre going to need someone to give them some of the vaccine|1 Are these cases real or fake|0 The elite wont be affected anyways theyll have access to whatever available resources we have The problem is for the rest of us|0 Its a state of emergency yet we are not allowed federally published access to informationbecause the CDC doesnt have that information As others have pointed out there are many thousands of private labs carrying out testing basically none of which are communicating with each other nor the CDC It would be downright irresponsible for the CDC to report any kind of nunbers when they dont have all the data|0 Would only kill whats on your skin which you can get off easier by washing|0 8 The virus was brought to earth by aliens and it has mindcontrolling properties Our leaders are now infected and working at the bidding of the aliens|0 I welcome our new Racoon overlords|1 This makes me want to cry of happiness because my fiance is nurse with O blood type|1 Ive been on the fence about how serious to take this But the CDC telling people to get ready is my tipping point Am I going to go full doomsday probably not But the prep stuff I do have is going to be double checked tonight and shopping throughout the week to start building supplies Hopefully Im just paranoid and will be overprepared for a vaccine announcement and have to eat a lot of beans|0 Its just so infuriating man Ive heard so many people over the years say shit denigrating those of us working in grocery stores sometimes even literally using us as an example to their kids of Why you need to do well in school But now if I decide to say fuck it and take time off Im apparently a monster My stores have implemented that we need to work 6days a week and all time off requests have been cancelled|0 It is not estimated to as bad as the flu season at all one of a thousand things that covers thishttpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomworld2020mar02worsethantheflubustingthecoronavirusmythsfacemasksvaccinecovid19 If that source isnt good enough I can pull up a bunch more to you preferenceMostly because the flu doesnt hospitalize 20 of people it infects and we dont have the room for that to happen|0 Right but thats not the relevant question here The relevant question is supposed to be HOW GOOD Not how CHEAP or how good a VALUE Important distinctions to make imo esp when speaking of a novel virus like this|1 people around the world pretend to think that the only job in the world is just office worker with their computer other profession like chef construction worker factory labors cant work online from home|1 The bill allows you to use any of your accrued leave including sick leave during the emergency However you need not use it and can go directly to the emergency benefit Your employer cant make you not use your accrued leaveAn employee may elect to substitute any of the accrued vacation leave per sonal leave or medical or sick leave for leave under section 102a1FAn employer may not require an employee to substitute any leave as described in paragraph 1 for leave under section 102a1F|0 I imagine that a lot of these ads have already been paid for and because of all the mayhem no one has caught up with the awkwardness of the ads yet I assume that will change I noticed it yesterday on XM and some of them made me laugh and others made me cringe Its just all all of it so fucking strange For the moment these commercials are like a weird window into who we were just a few weeks ago We aint that anymore The in between is unsettling and occasionally even funny|1 dies of alcohol poisoning|0 The epidemic may be over but whether it comes back to haunt us next fallwinter is a different story Its increasingly likely that COVID19 will be added to our vaccination panels like influenza has|0 Because hes being sensible by admitting that theres a problem early before it became a catastrophe and realizing that an actual medical doctor needed to be in charge of this as a post to just career public health officials politicians|0 Trump is now killing you for his own benefithttpswwwrevcomtranscripteditorsharedtnGWVoqK1pD7wwj9qD9mczaP5UlknA4PEgVMOY1BNcsrxJZycO6Fi1sl3ka0dYSyeWwvMo4Yj4e5gFh5wvOlCEloadFromPastedDeeplinkts04But I want to address one other thing tonight Okay Hes guilty Okay Hes guilty Does he really need to be removed Does he really need to be removed We have an election coming up Does he really need to be removed Hes guilty Is there really any doubt about thisDo we really have any doubt about the facts here Does anybody really question whether the President is capable of what hes charged with No one is really making the argument Donald Trump would never do such a thing because of course we know that he would and of course we know that he did Its a somewhat different question though to ask okay its pretty obvious whether we can say it publicly or we cant say it publicly We all know what were dealing here with this President but does he really need to be removed And this is why he needs to be removed Donald Trump chose Rudy Giuliani over his own intelligence agencies He chose Rudy Giuliani over his own FBI Director He chose Rudy Giuliani over his own National Security Advisors When all of them were telling him this Ukraine 2016 stuff is kooky crazy Russian propaganda He chose not to believe them He chose to believe Rudy Giuliani That makes him dangerous to us to our country That was Donald Trumps choice Now why would Donald Trump believe a man like Rudy Giuliani over a man like Christopher Wray Okay Why would anyone in their right mind believe Rudy Giuliani over Christopher WrayBecause he wanted to and because what Rudy was offering him was something that would help him personally And what Christopher Wray was offering him was merely the truth What Christopher Wray was offering him was merely the information he needed to protect his country and its elections but thats not good enough Whats in it for him Whats in it for Donald Trump This is why he needs to be removed Now you may be asking how much damage can he really do in the next several months until the election A lot A lot of damage|0 7 mSv Not great not terrible|0 I hope that will be the case Be safe|1 And Musk needs to start applying himself to reduce those areas I like his ideas but his actions diminish my opinion of him especially now with him downplaying the virus severity|1 If by everyone you mean everyone starting with health care workers who are most at risk to contract and spread it then yesIf by everyone you mean everyone starting with anyone else who are universally all at lower risk then no Thats irresponsible|0 The nurses at a local clinic are lucky to make 10hr here in Eastern KY Several of my friends work overtime to make ends meet and they are hard hours They assist with 2050 different patients a day Thats really fucking sad and wrong especially now as they expose themselves more than most|0 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and substantiate your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thanks|1 I hate it when people say everyone could have it and not know for weeks 975 of people will develop symptoms within 115 dayshttpswwwlaboratoryequipmentcom561708NewCOVID19StudyEstimates51DaysforIncubationPeriod|0 preppersIts not like the supply chain will suddenly break down ffs Even during quarantine people can go out and buy stuff from the store It is better if people buy in bulk but the preppers have always acted like its the zombie apocalypse They are legit stupid|0 Its a bit surreal thinking about what might come in a short time while everyone goes about their business Most people cant even fathom the potential of societal breakdown as weve never had anything close in their lifetime I suspect this could be an event that changes peoples actions for the rest of their lives Much like the wars changed things for our grandparents You still hear people talk about how old folks still do things a certain way because of what they went through decades and decades ago|0 It seems that a lot of people around here are wanting to be willfully ignorant about the whole thing because the flu is worse This cornavirus isnt a big deal Its maddeningLots of people dont like thinking about things that make them uncomfortable You cant let them get to you Just worry about yourself and make sure your loved ones are aware of the risks and how to best mitigate themIm a young healthy guy so Im not particularly worried about the danger to myself from the illness Even so Im still taking all sorts of precautionary measures because I dont want to spread it to someone who is at a higher risk of suffering due to infection I worry a lot about my grandmother because shes in her 80s and has heart problems Fortunately she lives in a smaller town and doesnt live in a communal environment like a nursing home or assisted living It should be relatively easy for her to isolate herself for the time beingI am worried about the implications of potential lockdowns and supply chain disruptions as much as Im worried about the virus itself All these unprepared people are going to turn into animals if the grocery stores run out of food and the policemilitary begin enforcing travel restrictions Thats why Im stocked up on ammo in addition to food and medicine I dont care if that makes me look paranoid I can always use the ammo later for recreation which is hopefully what ends up happening|0 Hes the father of a remarkable amount of lies for a single person but hardly ALL lies|0 Notice the man to the speakers left he looks very worried My guess he and just about everyone on the stage is thinking Im getting the hell out of here and taking my Family to my ranch up in Montana|0 Whataboutism is also used to deflect blame by going yeah but what aboutIm sorry that youre stuck with just a single definition that Google gave you|0 Fucking powerful I still to this day have friends that tell me that its no worse than the flu when I ask them to prepare I am going to share this with them in hope that someday it will click before it is too late|1 DO NOT BUY INDIVIDUAL STOCKS Buying individual stocks is fine just spread it out and make sure the any company you buy into has clean financials no massive debt or records of lying to investorsBetter than most of those brokerage funds assuming you can look up info on the companies competently Oil is going to continue to tank so when we hit bottom in a few weeks those stocks are bound to rise long term|0 The US could have anywhere from dozens to tens of thousands of cases If I was riding on a subway in NYC you bet your ass Im wearing a mask|0 yeah it may be flu outbreak here too but it has to be the worst in living history if this is just the flu here|0 all of hubei province is locked up most other big cities it is quarantine It is looking increasingly that 10 of the world population is in one shape or another under lockdown its just a flu bro|0 Perfect|1 yikes imagine the panic for the 12 billion catholics and what that could mean|0 No I dont Misinformation is leading to panic which is leading more people to go to the hospital that dont need to Thats already putting a strain on those hospitals and means thats creating problems for people with other issues besides Covid19 Its also leading to people buying nonessentials which is creating problems for those that need them and then theyre hoarding essentials hurting those that cantshouldnt be out in crowds to begin withThe virus is absolutely dangerous and we should be doing all that we can to contain it Unfortunately it seems its far more difficult to contain misinformation and panic|0 This is at the very least misleading Check the Henley Passport Index Score visafree or on arrival count is 184 at position 8 top position is Japan with 191 I see 13 European countries with higher scores and there are over 30 European countriesEdit link to their PDF report httpswwwgooglecomurlsatsourcewebrctjurlhttpswwwhenleypassportindexcomassets2020Q1HENLEY2520PASSPORT2520INDEX252020202520Q12520INFOGRAPHIC2520GLOBAL2520RANKING191219pdfved2ahUKEwjhluCyza7nAhUWIzQIHRBCkIQjBAwAXoECAUQCgusgAOvVaw3wEQzmZEzDeBvbSiWwDa5cshid1580500047441|0 This virus takes over the brain and makes people want to travel in order to propagate its species|1 If I had a joystick for my Covid Monster Id hit delete|1 Ya I also work in a ecommerce type dept so like we shop for u|1 Can yall stop shortening it to Davis or UC Davis Patient is at UC Davis Med Center which is in Sacramento not UC Davis or Davis the town|0 Im not ruling out that this will blow over in a while but Covid19 is clearly much worse than the flu 1020 of all known cases require hospitalization for over a week China had to weld people in their homes to get this under control Italy just quarantined their entire country Irans government is dropping like flies No one even thinks about such measures for the flu|0 One of the many reasons you dont want to live in a city during these times|0 They had zero five days in a row last week as well Lmao Talk about propaganda|1 Whatever happened to them Jade Helm was an exercise that was conducted and FEMA still has camps They still have underground bunkers too And they still have weapons aimed at your face if you try entering their facility|0 Bro there are more confirmed cases popping up in my state left and right in the US The Cdc is less than a 2 hour drive yet none of our hospitals have tests yet I get daily updates from my fiance who works at the regional hospital She says they are turning away people they believe are infected because they arent serious enough to tube and also no tests to confirm This is in a county with no confirmed cases yet but on the border of one with 3|0 Take note that it does say he has been improving since then and that he was already in the hospital prior to the pneumonia|1 What is going on This is so scary Those poor Italians They are like the best people Ive been to Italy in 2011 and they were so friendly and helpful and Oh God I feel so bad that this is happening to them and to everyone elsewhere|1 All I could do with the mouth sores was wait them out I did some reading about postEBV symptoms and found that the sores sometimes follow EBV the same way that getting a cold or flu can trigger fever blisters The sores were extremely painful but I noticed early on that they never reoccured in the same place in my mouth They would heal in one spot then Id get sores in another spot Like you I also had swelling in my face for a whileI figured that if the sores did not reoccur in the same place twice eventually they would run their course After about 6 weeks thats exactly what happened|1 Youre not wrong|1 She needed to go 3 times to the ER is now in critical condition Despite very young that doesnt mean is not vulnerable to the virus When pneumonia is severe needs hospital treatment|0 Im enraged on your behalf Thats bullshit|0 stay healthy that is the best you can do eat healthy food try to exercise and relax try to not pass on her illness to anyone else right now even passing on the common flu viruses is bad as it takes up more time from medical staff people need to understand that the better we protect each other the less worse the situation will getand i wish her a quick recovery of course|1 My partner has severe asthma and she has the regular free flu jabs We live together and were quite happy for her to quarantine for 12 weeks to keep her safe Im freaking out though because I could catch it and bring it home I dont get sick pay and we have rent and bills to take care of Getting stressful now|1 Well lets burn down all the playgrounds and parks Dont want my kids becoming socialists s|1 viruses and diseases are Earths immune system Change my mind|1 You might still be shedding viruses though Anyway congrats on making it through|1 And all it takes is one selfish person to initiate a chainreaction outbreak that rapidly spirals out of control with devastating consequencesLike the US president who until very recently was calling this all a hoax and just playing it for political points|0 Sadly they will all realize that you were right within a week|0 Self isolate|0 Well my fingers are crossed it doesnt accumulate in severity because then I bought all this canned food for alien archeologists|1 Yeah people are going to be dying of all sorts of normally survivable things like heart attacks strokes accidents etc just because the NHS will be on its knees This govt strategy is really going to fuck us so hard|0 Do we have a sub for Americans in China Could you reach out to those subs and find Americans located in other Chinese cities that she could turn to for help if her flights get cancelled|1 This needs to be higher the United States is without a doubt the stupidest country in the world|1 They sent a fucking journalist barely speaking italian at the civil protection press conference very important daily numbers are given here for instance to ask so china is helping italy Sending doctors masks Thanks He used many more words and i swear it wasnt even a question It was so cringe|1 i agreethey could not have stocked for the populous but they could have had a level of contingencywhich they do not they also could have rerouted ppe from retail to medically necessary stockpiles in January they did not the shaming is horrible worse because i do believe that if honesty had been used instead of shaming people would have started making their own making them for others sharing informationeven if these masks were not as effective as respirators they could have slowed the spreadand even if only some people wore ppe it would slow the spread this was ass backwards bullshit conducted knowing that it would increase infection and fatality|0 Indiana get your shit together and follow|0 I take Frontrunner to and from work every day The first confirmed case had been to the BYU basketball game the weekend before he found out he was sick A ton of people took frontrunner home after that gameMy throat is starting to get sore I cant help but wonder if Im infected Hopefully just my imagination|0 Thank you for sharing Many of us feel the same I am going to start a Facebook page for my county in Oregon for specific information related to connecting those who need help with solutions I already subscribe to several community pages so getting the word out should be easy I am going to start contacting key players in this outbreak Nursing home and assisted living facilities What do they need from the community to self isolate Church leaders and what best ways we can help the elderlyhigh risk stay home I am so tired of waiting for someone to step up to the plate and guide this community Maybe if we can find our own solutions for our communities we can help the frustration level|1 Jeez Their loss not yours|0 I went to the farmers market at 730 this morning Normal volume there Then to WalMart It wasnt crazy busy but the shelves were wiped out Ive never seen that at WalMart before Not early on a Saturday especially Just nuts|0 I do understand you I work with entertainment too and it has been a hell of a week here I cant even shoot a small scene outside but we should try our best to stay calm I dont live in UK but my uncle is coming from London to visit us and I do fear anything can happen I try to think positive but its real hard If u can move your appointments next week I guess everything will be a little less messy by there Our normal work life will be back soon try to study a little about your work or read its helping me a lot Stay safe|1 Thats pretty cool but I didnt ask|1 So like 2 years of defense spending Big whoop|1 Train to Busan is the last one I saw that I really liked|1 Because we pay very little for air travel|0 If the market crashes they will offer another bailout with your social security|1 Thats a great suggestion actually Ive done some activism but usually related to a particular topic Youre right to say that if you want to make change you have to actually do something and not just complain or start online petitions And on covid again I agree it will infect regardless of class gender or creed Though would argue its likely to be much worse than a bad cold considering whats coming out from Italian doctors I just worry because weve seen such a diminishment of public services this could be the black Swan event that sees them gone for good|0 Collectively we can put pressure on both governments I guess I am an Egyptian living in Seattle so I got it worse in the US and I can see how much worse it will be for Cairo a dense city of 20 million|0 That article states the opposite thats transmission occurs more in early stages and when people may not even know their IllWelp seems you cant read then Now I understand why youre hysterical As already established asymptomatic transmission is likely to be very rare or not at allStop trying to scaremonger|0 Hella freakin wishful thinking mate LOL Not even WHO gonna real numbers if it cause pandemonium|1 Yeah considering a lot of the patient zeros around the world are not from wuhan but other places in China and now its looking like Iran Korea Italy and Japan have serious community spread right now|1 And theres always the risk of the deliberate spreader|0 In Washington we are hoping to figure out something similar to how we feed kids in the summer but theyll take their meal to go Im a former para and current student teacher in Spokane|1 I am sure that because they used this majic word employeer will make sure to jump at the chances to do as asked The truth is we are profit 1st and everything else is second so no matter how its asked it will be ignored unless it benefits the corporation|1 Wasnt that long ago on this very sub when overreaction just means the situation is even worse than it appears and evidence of government lying|0 Jesus youre obtuse A dog tested positive for the virus and we didnt have much more info what are people supposed to believe happened Even doctors didnt know at the time whether dogs and cats were vulnerable|1 Just curious Where do you go that you need bear spray in a chest holster|1 Theres no start button if you dont test for the start buttonsorry I felt compelled to|0 Just went there this weekend Im screwed|0 kind of a disingenuous statement yes funding in alberta was cut but based on province to province statistics health care workers make 10 more on average then other provincesafter inflation even tho there was a cut they are still being paid more then the rest of the countryhttpswwwcbccanewscanadacalgaryalbertahealthspendinghistory15289747httpswwwcbccanewscanadacalgaryalbertahealthspendinghistory15289747cbc is paid for by the federal government of canadaThe next biggest chunk of health spending is physician compensation A small part of this is captured within the hospitals component but the bulk of it is recorded separately CIHIs full methodology for calculating all these costs is explained herehttpswwwcihicasitesdefaultfilesdocumentnhexmethodologicalnotes2018enwebpdf In 1998 Alberta was spending a bit less than 525 in current dollars per citizen to pay doctors By 2018 that had more than doubled to 1185 Thats an increase of 126 per cent which marks the fastest growth of any single expense identified in the CIHI data We had some really big boom years in the late 90s early 2000s andthe compensation plans reflected that said Fiona Clement a professor at the University of Calgarys Cumming School of Medicine who specializes in health policy and health economics The nurses and the physicians in Alberta became the most highly compensated of those professionals across Canada and very competitive globally Of course across most professions people in Alberta tend to make more money than people in other provinces Albertansaverage incomeshttpswww150statcangccat1tbl1encvactionpid1110023901have fallen in recent years but remain 16 per cent above the national average So it stands to reason Clement says that doctors and nurses would be paid more here as well to a degree|1 also notable Died 25 days after initial hospitalization|0 I believe they class anything 93 SpO2 as severe so thats worryingGlad youre feeling better now though|1 Hi this was me Just a couple of things to clear up excuse formatting Im on mobile The class is a Forensic Psychology course which explains the Yates video Unfortunately my university is a private institution so the decision to close lies with our admins As of right now 313 1132 am we have heard nothing since a Tuesday email saying we were at low risk and will remain open despite other schools around us closingWill update when I canEdit Clarity|0 Right puppies and tigers are both mammals but a tiger is not a type of puppythis is why early on people were complaining that coronavirus was a shitty name it is because dumb people make this exact mistake equating it to the common cold or thinking its a variant of the common cold It would be like if we found a maneating duck and the scientist that discovered it named it bird|0 60 of Germany is around 50000000 people 10 critically ill is 5000000 3 mortality is 150000 dead Only considering we can place all people in critical condition in a top notch hospital When we fail placing everyone in hospital 3 mortality will most likely double 300000 dead All while other patients with different illnesses die faster as well for lack of health support|0 And maybe also quarantine communities Lock down cities Like China|1 Its like theyre trying to hide somethinghmmmm Shits about to get real in the next few weeks Hang on|0 No the reason why the numbers in Japan is slow because they literally dont test Because of Olympics|0 Lol its literally less than a day of work|1 Next time you have the flu or COVID19 please PLEASE do not go to a hospital|1 I asked that yesterday and am still curious to know this Maybe some people are just functionally immune|1 More like human being with empathy |1 Ive been to Rome 10 days ago there wasnt such thing as people scared of the virus The Colosseum was full Trilussa was packed with teens and tourists I simply cant believe so much has changed in 10 days|0 Our party in the face of adversity attitude is usually beautiful I love that we partied after the loss in the playoffs and refused to watch the Superbowl Or that we second lined after Katrina We band together to eat and drink Its how we cope and I love it BUT its going to kill us if we dont knock it off My restaurant is still open and serving people We are still busy not as much as usual but there are lots of people Im disgusted by the complete lack of care my community is showing Im also terrified of how this will evolve in the coming weeks Shut This Shit Down Close the bars and restaurants Until they do the people will not stop coming|0 Good points plus they went through MERS in 2015 which trained everyone how to cooperate in an epidemic and every adult South Korean man has served in the military so that in a crisis it is much easier to create ad hoc command structures Very different from most countries|1 Well well likely know by the end of February the trajectory this is going to take and for now its looking very bleak indeed|1 This doesnt qualify for that subreddit as secuitous isnt a real word OP would have had to have said something like secure it to us routes|1 Can you get someone to make up the WHOs hand sanitizerhttpswwwwhointgpsc5mayGuidetoLocalProductionpdf|1 But our world is so globalized now For example hyundai is stopping production because of supply chain disruptions Tourism and international students revenue is hugely linked to china Air travel and oil companies worldwide are taking hits to profits Apple has closed all of their stores in china Trumps trade deal likely wont go ahead because of the virus Global growth is predicted to slow 23 Thats bigTheres also the risk that things could get much worse but even if they dont its a pretty bad headwind alreadyThere are many and obvious negative impacts to the west yet no reaction aside from a 1 day downturn that was reversed a day later Its crazy|0 I had pneumonia obviously not this pneumonia I assumed i had a virus and stayed home to fight it out By the time I went to the dr he said I had pneumonia but was at the end of it from what he could hear in my lungs Your scenario is really dangerous for people living alone|0 I posted 3 different peer reviewed research paper about the ineffectiveness of masks recent in my comment history if interested Doesnt matter still got told there is no scientific proof masks are ineffective |0 This sounds relatable as fuck and is probably absolutely correct|0 Maybe well learn to not vote for him|1 Brexit is a totally different can of worms Because it was voted in whats the point in voting if the goverment can be pressured to change the outcome of that vote You know Tbh I dont think the government would change their minds unless they wanted to But a petition being out there can be useful in other ways|1 Yea im at the point of not if but when Not having tests really sucks|0 This is like almost good shitposting haha Youre trying way too hard|1 China is crushing it after how many coverups after how many weeks after how many dead After how many dead we dont even know about Try to put some balance in your perspective|0 It is not an airborne disease so it travels only with infected people and others in close proximity|0 Dont be so naive This is a bare minimum step paired with an even tougher testing criteria they updated yesterday as the person above me has already explainedWe need real relief anyone who even has a sore throat should be staying away from others as much as possible Until we arr compensated everyone will go about their day to keep the wheels on their cars and homes turning Im sick of all these little half assed steps we are taking to avoid the inevitable Literally the inevitable as many many health professionals have dubbed it We need the deluxe package instantly or the spread will continue to rise unknowingly and exponentially Were not going to get ahead of this thing by refusing tests our own PM wont be tested after his own wife tested positive what kind of criteria is that|0 they werent fired httpswwwpolitifactcomfactchecks2020feb28michaelbloombergdiddonaldtrumpfirepandemicofficialsdefundcd|1 Most likely not This is based on confirmed cases only and true infection count will be at least five times but probably at least 10 times higher especially for the younger population which almost always only develop cold like symptoms Wuhan doctors dying are not a good benchmark therefor making it likely really not much worse than a flu for the young and healthy ones However its certainly true that this is a devestating disease for the elderly and those with significant preconditions so its best if the younger people treat this as a killer virus as well to avoid infection and spread|1 World War Z style like North Korea removing its citizens teeth lmao|1 My advice stay on a little longer until the government makes some more moves in that department I can see workers that were layoffed or can no longer work due to the virus getting some kind of stimulus easily but if you quit Im not sure youd get the benefitsIt truly sucks that your environment is hateful and toxic though Im sorry you have to go through that|0 Philadelphia held their parade and had 12000 deaths from Spanish flu|0 There are no masks available in whole country not even doctors have them 4 days ago I had pains on my chest at night so I was sure to call the ambulance the next day but during the day it was OK I think it was from the stress Or maybe it was both stress and covid who knows I was not having any shortness of breath but the pain was noticeable It didnt seem to be affected by breathing very much it felt like it was coming and going away randomlyI think that the troubles breathing I had before were in fact because of the mucus not stress as I am still stressed but can breathe no problem I mean I feel that my throat is tight but its not even close to how tight it was beforeSince then no more mucus and no pains no fever or anything overall feeling better but throat still feels sore sometimes especially when I breathe fast|0 Evening And are you not even going to touch on the part where they carefully took shots where they cut sidewalks and roads out for half the photos Like taking a picture of the river instead of the bridge Or taking pictures of closes businesses and the plants in front of them instead of the streetThey took photos of a few streets with evening or morning lighting and then went out of their way to avoid the sidewalks in streets in every single other photo little suspectIm the OP Whats your point Like what am I trying to do with these pictures Why are they suspectI think now is the time where you can bring up any conspiracy theories that you might have about me since I can address themI also want to point out that you were literally wrong in your theory about when I took the pictures Twice|0 Thanks for this But I think the real problem here is that almost nobody trusts the numbers coming out from China and this in turn helps fuel all sorts of speculationsChinas obscurantism as policy is undoubtedly making the epidemic worse The destruction of trust goes both ways Not only does it become harder for authorities to get the information they need to make decision but even if the authorities acted purely with the best of intentions which they arent their efforts would still be damaged by their past deceptions|1 That skit is definitely a classic|1 If true that may be the dumbest decision by a government in human history 88 people on that ship tested positive TODAY|1 Sorry I meant as of like yesterday We are still fairly close to Dow 2018 December The point Im trying to make is we havent even seen how bad the global economy is going to react to this|0 I saw that when it was posted Im just saying if they declare martial law hold on to your britches People in Texas will lose their shit They will probably form militia and try to overturn local government Ive already heard people in my community say her her i got guns aint no one gone touch my toilet papers|0 What is this a fatality rate for ants|0 Add pangolin in the soup for extra strength|1 Wasnt the senile old person who lived six bus transfers away from the wet market and didnt go there Or is that one just as far back as they were able to track itMarket got attention because the first known fatalities were there|0 Yeah I think thats what they look for|1 Well in theory if they came and stayed with case 1 and were asymptomatic but shedding the virus and infected patient 1 through fomites it would still be transmission during incubation In other words it doesnt really matter if they infected him with droplets aerosol or fomites just that it was during incubation But were relying on the investigators not to miss other means of ingress that didnt come from patient 2 or 3 directly Who knows what they missed Maybe they did a bang up job but the study only mentioned a limited set of possibilities that they ruled out Still needs confirmation|0 Well hes been late to the game for months though|1 McConnell is informed Hes not stupid Hes a traitor but hes not stupid Although its definitely arguable his treasonous actions are an expression of his stupidity Maybe his wife brought it when she visited family for New Years|0 Airbnb is as terrible of a company as you can get|0 Wow well done Probably a lofty request but would there be any way to include data from Canada Im in a city with active CV and this info could prove very helpful here too Regardless cheers to what youve done |1 That wont be true Who are you going to believe Hero doctor who has literally put his career life and family pregnant wife on the line to treat patients save lives and warn public about virus and is the very bastion of bravery and integrity or some bitchy brainwashed keyboard cowards on rsino|1 People really need to stop going on cruises till this is all over|0 Literally dreamed about checking on Reddit When I woke up and my phone wasnt in my hand I turned around got my phone and then went to Reddit Im so glad others are conserned as i am|1 Good for you Also the asthma triggering could be from the seasons change during mid March Bon courage|1 Bro Im over here right now can you calm the fuck down youre harshing my vibe|0 I see what you did there But I like your style|1 Whataboutism does matter because it constantly derails conversations However I agree with you and no one I know is blaming the entirety of the Chinese people by a long shot and I sure am not doing that I have loved ones in China who are Chinese Any criticism of the CCP for me at least is completely separate to what I think of the Chinese people most of whom in my experience are strong lovely kindhearted people We also agree about the US government being a different thing to the American people as a whole The US government right now is a train wreck|1 The scientific research says that once community spread is confirmed the assumption is there that around 1 of the population is infected The case in Stark County was confirmed as community spread I believe so it would be pretty stupid to believe that our current number of 5 is accurate even if you wouldnt go as far as 100k|0 You should put in the notes to leave it at your front door and not have it hand delivered because even them talking to your can spread the virus through the droplets that come out of their mouth when they talk|0 Just wait for the banks to finally crash No one wants our treasury bonds anymore and back dont need to have 10 reserves|0 Yep someones gonna in prison|0 Unfortunately its still probably too low|0 Doubtful we are just going to get an overburdened system that is testing people that dont need testing|0 Ive heard two different thing One was that smoking damages the pathways the other was that nicotine inhibits them|0 Theyre all screwed Credit cards will provide some cushion|0 It the classic the truth is here uncomfortable so Im going to lie to myself to comfort myself from harsh realityAdult children are lethal Truth is truth no matter who says it|1 Less than 12 of the population is employed in essential activities Less than 2 could easily keep the food supply chain running Considering 20 are asymptomatic and 40 have a very minor illness even if somehow everyone got their sickest at the same time the country would run just fine As it is even during the peak of the first wave no more than 80 of the population would have been infected and a good 30 would be recovering by the the time the other 50 were getting too sick to work The food supply chain is going to be just fine|0 How many are younger than 40 They had 1 death of 39 in Italy and that was the youngest who also had comorbidty|0 Singapore is being very transparent about cases On the bright side it helps build trust that the authorities are on top of the situationOn the other hand theyre publishing a lot of information about each case Id think that someone with good investigative skills could identify a significant fraction of the patients which could lead to privacy violations harassment of patients and their family members etc|1 My wife told me yesterday she bought staples I was really confused because we have staples theyre in my office I bought a single small box of blue staples way back in 1998 before I started working to put together my first resumes and never used them all up Now it was her turn to look confused She explains she meant food staples but in my defense Ive never heard her use staples in reference to food Then she asks why I can remember when I bought staples last yet cant remember the anniversary of when we first met started dating broke up got back together proposed date of her fathers death nor the names of all her 6 cousins|0 No theyre parasitic manipulators of the fearful|0 Jeff Bezos is on Mars and is fine so yes|1 What was the screening like through the airport|1 The article even says that the descriptions beyond 1590 are inaccurate The only accurate prophecies were for the years prior to it being published Ergo bullshit|0 That is a great idea|1 You are not crazy that was 100 the right call|1 BacteriophageA bacteriophage also known informally as a phage is a virus that infects and replicates within bacteria and archaea The term was derived from bacteria and the Greek phagein meaning to devour Bacteriophages are composed of proteins that encapsulate a DNA or RNA genome and may have structures that are either simple or elaborate Their genomes may encode as few as four genes eg PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 I read somewhere Ibuprofen may worsen COVID19 symptoms|0 Im not definitely saying its not but I dont know why they think they are This nonsense didnt come from the Bible Their statement which is in the article lists Bible verses Mark 1618 says they will lay hands on the sick and they will recoverJust doing a cursory check Luke 912 NIVWhen Jesus had called the Twelve together he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases and he sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal the sickMatthew 101 NIVJesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness Matthew 108 NIV Heal the sick raise the dead cleanse those who have leprosy a drive out demons Freely you have received freely give James 514 NIVIs anyone among you sick Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the LordAnd finally as Jesus healed too many people to list here Jesus saidJohn 141214 NIVVery truly I tell you whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing and they will do even greater things than these because I am going to the Father And I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Father may be glorified in the Son You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do itEdit tldr These people believe nonsense that isnt in the Bible TLDR you clearly dont know anything about the Bible because the Bible talks about God healing time after time after time and Jesus repeatedly commanded his followers to go and do the same|1 Maybe they feel all the retirees anyone with health problems are dead weight on the economy Ive paid a shit load of taxes for over 30 years despite health problems Ive forced myself to continue working full time through all the pain and issuesOr the people in charge are too stupid and narcissistic to care Or combo of both Im so pissed lately at the sheer lack of testing and preparations|0 The would be outraged at what China did to the world|0 Its possible that oral antibodies might be protective But it doesnt seem like a bad disease in young children who are not nursing either|1 This test is months behind and I dont see any indication that it is superior to the tests other countries have had in use already|1 So were not saying he has to Were saying he should Because his success is built on the backs of those working for him not on him alone|1 red states will not blue states willitll go down to citiesshould be an interesting census|1 Social media repetition is no substitute for scientific diligence There is absolutely no proof or background in that post for that claim I could claim anything I wanted too I have sources in the deepest Illuminati circles|0 It is just self interest If a story comes out that people that work at Walmart are infected many people will shop elsewhere Now if workers get infected they have a reason to stop working Remember this is the same company that stopped giving their employees time and a half for the holiday season Instead they got 10 off for 2 weeks if they worked certain holiday hours There are still so many customer service jobs out there that dont have paid sick leave Rent and other bills keep coming so most will keep on working|1 Definitely not what they said nor implied Singapore is right in the heart of countries that have it sharing lots of borders and trade|1 Wouldnt that be corporation I thought a private company can exist for whatever reason the owner wantspretty much always profit but some dont have profit as the beallendall but a publicly traded company exists to maximize shareholder profits|1 Could there be a clue here in how to create a vaccine|1 Just imagine the spittin lot of people tend to spit when making effort on the road getting carried by each runners shoe and brought home and other places as well|1 Do you not understand that we have a mask shortage|0 Fortunately we are only two weeks away from April when it gets warm historically that has been able to kill the virusSo were golden|0 So frustrating|0 Were actually some of the ones who care about hygiene the most since we have to deal with assholes like you all day|1 Totally different mindsets its good for the economy to have both types of jobs Not all people are good at saving and planning The problem is when the safe government jobs with pensions start wanting the same pay as the ones taking the risks|1 When will people undertstand that the news only report pieces because theyre exceptional Imagine news like thisFlu season is coming and John Doe is infectedCats are not extinctMan 28 still aliveA traffic accident occurred yesterday on 3rd street Minor damage to both cars No fatalities|0 Its logical I know someone who just had the flu all last week Who knows what flu He doesnt have insurance so he toughed it out at home until he felt better Never tested obviously so if it is CV then hes spreading it around the area stillBasically nothing about the US stats are real no matter what Undertesting means more people are infected than we know as well as people are recovering that we dont know abouthttpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirus shows 15 recovered in the entire US I find that really hard to believe|0 Absolutely shameful treatment of a truly heroic man Dr Li deserved so so much better than this|1 Im praying that the on avg better hygeine practices in the west helps stifle it a bit|1 pence wont win in November|0 I think the bacteria probably sets in after the virus starts damaging cells Please correct me if Im wrong|0 Happy Cake Day|1 The nature is powerful |1 I wish I was able to get one They are so perfect for situations like these and overall better to use |1 I have both my 2080 Ti and my 9980XE running the two pieces of software one on each Ill leaving it running overnight and when Im AFK lets hope I can be of some help|1 They both seem pretty panicky were both replying to a guy who says he hasnt read the MAINSTREAM MEDIA in days which is actual crazy person talk Getting your news from fringe sites isnt helping anyone|0 We are now THAT country Now well probably start seeing screening quarantine for travellers who are returning FROM the US We are now the worlds China Yet not too long ago US citizens were being denied testing because they hadnt been to China|0 Immune system gets wiser with age as it has more experience in handling how to respond to foreign intruders|1 Yet China told the world new virus on the 30th and probably human to human mid JanuaryThe censor is from outside to inside China|0 Yup Schools and employers taking guidance from Municipality Municipality taking guidance from Province Province taking guidance from Feds Its the blind leading the blind and they will probably go to their deathbeds wheezing risk remains low|0 But media said its no big deal flu is worse And the 100 nonbiased WHO totally not in Chinas pocket hasnt called it a pandemic yet|0 Stop trade with EuropeTrade isnt impacted at all by the ban Its people only Stop travel to Europe We already have the virus in every state that is testing this will do little to stop spreadThis isnt true If you have 10 people in state with COVID thats one thing If you let 1 person on a plane with it you could have 200 more in the state when the plane lands Just because its here doesnt mean we should try to lessen the spread|0 Even viruses outsource their production to China The good news is that coronavirus has expanded its manufacturing capacity across the globe|1 The scientific method deals in probability not certaintyYou develop a theory design an experiment to test your theory then run analytics to see whether or not your results support your theory or not Pvalues are not certainty even the most well designed study still relies on statisticsEven if you run a hundred thousand studies on the exact same subject and all 100000 of them come up with the same results you still havent proved it Sure there is absolutely incredibly strong evidence for your theory being correct but that isnt absolute proofThe concept of proof goes against the entire fundamental idea of science It exists only in mathematics and perhaps physics Not sure physics isnt my fieldIf you are interested theres tons of books about the subject that can explain it better than me|1 Im not saying hotter temperature doesnt help slow down the spread Im saying in spite of the hotter temperature the virus will still spread|0 For what its worth here is a strong refutation This is not my area of expertise so Im just posting it for a different perspective Response to On the origin and continuing evolution of SARSCoV2httpvirologicalorgtresponsetoontheoriginandcontinuingevolutionofsarscov2418|1 Either that or without the distraction of hockey Canadians are ten times as productive|1 Ignorant is calling a nation a race|0 The real question at this point is how are they going to hide the bodies|0 Potentially Not medical advice of course Quercitin seems to have some bioavailability issues like curcurmin but perhaps the quantity in food is sufficient anyway It seems relatively heat stable in food depending on how you cook it Kaempferol kale beans tea spinach broccoli etc looks good in study but not clear what the heat resistance is canned capers have 12 the kaempferol as rawAll things told a highquality diet can contribute significantly to health This is just more evidence for that|1 Agreed and we as a people need to start taking proactive steps now and not wait for Officials to close down crowded events schools etc wherever we can help slow down the spread and for those who can work from home or do digital school from home definitely should Italy is thick in the problem and just now closing down schools We can learn from these countries|1 OP hasnt posted in 12 dayshe dead|0 Can we get these virus mechanics in plague inc Eg accidental breach|0 Whats really weird are the people pretending its all about treatment If you dont test positive you cant get paid leave Now Im not a parent but I can say with 110 certainty that if I knew I was infected and had to choose between possibly infecting others and watching my kids starve Im infecting others Either the testing requirements change or the paid leave changes but NO ONE is going to simply quit their jobs with no security|0 Well duh they dont know cause the aint sick|1 Id be surprised if they take used masks as theyre no longer sterile and could be contaminated|0 I get that I have no other options because rare diseases certainly dont have priority for new treatments Even the first and most recent options arent a possibility for me because of my other health issues|1 Yeah but China and Hong Kong are so differentat least to me|1 Hm TLDR Not that I refuse to read something so long its just that me along with probably most of the people here who read this wont have a clue what you are talking about Especially if you are awful at maths like I am lol|1 Same with Oregon they closed schools and banned large gatherings A lot of restaurants around here are closed just because|0 Dont know why everyone cares about Coronavirus its as bad as flu s|0 Modern medication obviously is tested and peer reviewed There are a lot of interesting species and plants that have substances that cureBut when I saw the Indian cure for corona I had a sad laugh Id imagined eastern medicine being similar|1 The fact that those infected are being put in quarantine will already slow it down|0 Boomers die gold falls Economy bad gold rises Stocks go up stocks go down cant explain that|0 I agree If I were an asymptomatic carrier I probably wouldve infected at least eight older people because I had to go to work|0 Grocery stores should expand their hours to be 24h instead so people can shop at off peak hours This is coming from someone that plans to shop at 4am|1 Our hospital has a chokehold entrance on visitors by testing temps and short questionnaire But they are not checking hospital employees I definitely do not feel protected by the hospital Neither should you|1 Help her think on your levelProvide guidance whether it be covid updates finding grocery stores with stocked items etc If poasible grab some extra items during checkout so you can build her a carepackageGoodluck|1 Fuck cruises nasty disgusting things|0 Pretty sure i already had it|1 i told her the reality of the situation and she blocked me clearly shes only interested in protecting her industry and not peoples lives|1 I agree the more data we get the more horrific this thing is|0 Do they have to keep so many lights on Theres nobody to maintain them Surely its economical to shut a few off until things pick up again|1 Most young people in critical condition will recover relative to the older but still those are beds being occupied Social distancing is needed but I still see people outside It happened in China to people flaunting the rules Thats why some were welded in Unfortunately Im seeing examples all over here in the US justifying the CCPs actions which I hate to say since their censorship is one main reason this has gotten so bad|0 Both above 50 laughed at ne when i said lets buy masks|1 Haha your obviously triggered if I die I die Ill still have lived a better life than you if you live to 200 Had a butcher at your posts since thats a thinglol paranoid much your obviously in need of mental help SJWs are a special bunchlolthe difference between us is that Im not bothered if this kills me youve been worried about it for monthslol may you survive but all your family and friends be selected sorry I meant family you obviously dont have friends|1 I would call it the right choice if you are worried about your health or that of anyone you care about|1 I have a small bottle of hand sanitizer on the belt|1 yes outside the interested area tho still|1 Hey big surprise uOldFashionedJizz is talking about seamen again|1 Better be safe then sorry The CDC is actually legit compared to the CCP|1 Yeah you still arent reading it right He is saying that you should stay home if you are sick or not not that sick people shouldnt stay home|0 If they bothered to take action maybe they could mitigate some of this Classic Witty|0 Im guessing people who test positive for influenza get categorized as influenza and end of story ignoring the possibility that people can get both influenza and coronavirus at the same timeWe can only guess why they kept saying this years flu season has been so deadly|0 Its because anybody not paying attention in NK and following these rules will probably end up facing incredibly severe consequences So NK will probably contain it better than anywhere else Not that this really means insane authoritarianism is the way to go|0 Correction not Boston In Washington state That was the first confirmed US case Yourdadsleftball user has no idea what hes talking about Check nejmorgcoronavirus for the journal article for first US confirmed case article|0 Why the fuck does it itch so much|0 You got a dumb family like mine|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 We will beat this virus Thanks to Trump Unity is needed my friend|1 Most people Ideal scenarios arent what Im talking about Im talking about people that dont understand what the masks are doing I watched one woman who had her mask pulled down subsequently touch her face and pull it up right before stepping into the train lol I saw another one continuously touching her mask and adjusting it Nose and mouth arent the only places it can enter Plenty of people also touching their eyes Rubbing their ears So on|1 I was expecting to see And China is going to pay for it|0 Absolutely The USA and Russia have samples of the smallpox virus Since the smallpox virus has been eradicated in the wild if it resurfaces it will be an immediate sign of biological warfare on either the US or Russias part|0 You somehow make this sounds bad What you described means you politics listen to what the country says I dont know of many countries where the leader will listen unless they risk loosing power|0 My reply from a similar thread yesterday Why do so many people get excited by this zinc ionophore thing There are at least 3 mechanisms of action that are more direct and convincing Is it because people want to believe that they can help themselves by eating more zinc The better known mechanisms are1 Directly inhibits virus replication by altering the pH of endosomes and causing the virus to fail to reach the cells cytoplasm2 Suppresses cytokine storm its used to treat autoimmune diseases3 Inhibits proper glycosylation of ACE2 so the virus has fewer receptors it can use to enter the cellLets just say that PLOS ONE the journal the zinc ionophore paper is in is not highly regarded in the world of science Its like almost the last resort when you cant get your paper into a better journal but still considered a legit journalTheres also a 4th mechanism something about the a virus gene affecting hemoglobin by that Harvard guy I dont understand that part and the implications re diabetics and re chloroquine to explain it|1 Thats uncalled for Even the Zodiac Killer is human|0 I was saying good for him when Amazon closed his account but seeing this it is wrong couldve gave him even half the price as a slap in the face Im even more upset with the government than I was with this guy yeah when will they do this to oil gas and big pharma|0 Give it a break if he had good income do you think he would resort to this the guy just wanted to make bank this is so overblown and bullying of this man is worst than his endeavor|0 Because its too expensive and no one wants to pay for it|0 Yikes hope everyone feels better asap Thats similar symptoms and progression to what I am recovering from Dry cough Sat night then bad chills slight aches then a day and a half of 102 fever and 8090 sleeping and then symptoms improving Still had major fatigue until today where Im almost back to normal Im assuming it would have been worse without the flu shot It didnt turn into a bronchial infection or pneumonia this time thankfully Ive had that a couple of times when I was younger and asthma wasnt as bad and it was still brutal|0 The guy got arrested|0 You are 200 RIGHTYou have government still playing the its like the flu angleThey care about their rich overlords keeping the stock market afloat in their greedy and stupid bet they have let the whole world be infectedNow we are left dealing with an epidemic they can easily retire in their private islands or yachts for months|1 Yep here Bought a few masks early in Jan and have been thinking about this non stop since Like many here Im mentally and emotionally exhausted and it feels like it is just beginning for everyone else Were living history right here and hopefully our connections and our country will be stronger for it|1 Ebola killed 11310 people H1N1 killed 12000 I dont remember there being quite this much hysteriaI blame our shitty toxic political and social climate making people angry and stressed|0 This is why i dont accept snacks or water on the flight|0 Could be I guess at a car dealership she might still have energy but anyone who works retailhealthcareetc and still looks decent heading in this week needs to share their secret|1 If it has a 2 fatality rate thats an order of magnitude greater than influenza which kills more than half a million people a year If this coronavirus becomes a sustained pandemic like influenza it will kill millions of people every single year|0 What exactly will be the causes of food shortages just not enough workersOr other countries no longer been able to import|0 Flu and stomach bugs spread quite easily on ships so Im led to believe Remember no one has any immunity to this virus because its new that is quite different from seasonal flu where there are vaccines|0 all the boomers who think its just the flu|0 I suspect its a case of managing up when you need to do what you need to do and your biggest obstacle is your managers ego So you suck it up and lambast praises and offer up your ideas and efforts as your boss ideas and let him take all the credits so you can do your fucking job unhindered|0 The authorities have been instructed to remove respirators from older folks and give them to people who need it and have a better chance of survival|1 I think theyre full of shit Not testing the POTUS when he may have been exposed would be straight up malpractice I am more likely to believe that hes been tested positive and theyre trying to cover it upI believe Trump is narcissistic enough to think hes immune but this is one thing I cannot imagine his entourage letting go of under any circumstances|1 This is awesome Thank you|1 Holy crap it sounds like he says incoming people will just be asked if they have symptoms No IR Camera nor temperature guns Is this the time for the honor systemEdit The Global Stream said that people arriving at the Airport will be asked a questionnaire on a touch screen if they have any symptoms and then they need to acknowledge theyll selfisolate for 14 days with one of those click to agree to TOS thingsWTF|1 In Korea they send alerts that detail everywhere that positive patients have been and when in public so you know if you may have been exposed If you are at risk or have symptoms you can go to drive through testing So not only are they testing way more they are giving people far better information to judge if they should get tested They are testing 15000 peopleday more than Ontarios total Korea is the country best managing this crisis they were hit early and hard due to the cult super spreading that actively avoided testing and withheld information which accounts for 1223 of their infections In Canada they targeted tests only at travelers and people living with those people after testing positive never released contact tracing and locations to the public that could be used to identify if someone with symptoms may have been in contact with a positive case Many people are unable to get tested and we have no idea what the real infection rate is in this countryCanada is fucking up hugely|1 Just dine in for now I live here and Ive lost hope for humanity seeing how many people are mad at Pritzker for this Absolute fucking disgrace and shame to see the comments on my areas news article|0 Im sorry that is shit|0 West Michigander here Hopefully Gov Whitmer follows him on this order too just like she did with schools closing|1 This would be wonderful news we can only hope it is true once further verifiable data is received over the next days and weeks|1 Awesome good businesses|1 In the developed world we ostracise parents for having more than two children when they dont have the means financial and otherwise to give them proper care upbringing and education Why are poor African countries an exception They shouldnt beGates wanting to limit reproduction there to sane reasonable amounts isnt the problem The problem is he likes to throw money at people and tell them solve my problem and they just quickly spend his money and make the problem worse And he aint learning|1 I cant and Im around hundreds of people every single day so Im pretty fucked lmao|1 I would be sad but life goes on Im not excusing the horrible acts of the church in the past But this Pope has been the most warm and likeable in a long time|1 Lack of reward and competition basically killed competency in the federal agencies|0 Maybe but I doubt it If shes that worried that shes willing to go back to China to get tested it would make sense to go to different hospitals in BC first And since we cant confirm or deny this let rumour be rumour|0 What a weak |0 As a medical professional you should 100 understand the risk and dangers of this virus and the fact that your parents seem more up to date than you is concerningIgnoring the fact that your family dynamic seems unhealthy you need to look at your parents as two people who obviously love and care about you You should be trying to find a way to protect yourself at work You work in one of the higher risk jobs of contracting this next to nurses doctors and paramedics People who are not sick enough to go to a doctor come to you This is not just another flu This is 20 times that I know this is a support group I know youre a highly intelligent individual However if you are in a high risk area in a high risk job you are actively putting your parents at risk of contracting this Take a moment and really look at the science not headlines Breathe Then think of a healthy way to take action to keep yourself safe I know its hard to talk to your parents if you let them boss you around like youre a teenager then youll never create a healthier relationship and youll resent them when this is all over Talk to them Find some middle ground Keep their fear in mind and empathize with them|1 Well literally any fossil fuels for a start Coal petroleum diesel enginesEven if we do go with bodies how about the tens of thousands of farm animals that have died due to neglect since the lockdownFrankly any of those options are more likely than burning a mountain of human corpses for the world to see|0 Im not too worried about the longterm effects other than develop an immunity to it and not having to worry about in late life Anyone who has a kid in daycare will tell you that they get random viruses all the time and recover from those My bet is that COVID19 at worst would be another one of these viruses Its only bad because its killing people but we dont know the actual death rate of this virus because we have no clue how many people have it and didnt die from it|0 I get it But its different when theyre laughing at us not with us|1 We had way more faith in the media in 2003|1 Thanks for the honest answer the jokes on this sub get old|1 Slowly but surely my coworkers are starting to cease laughing and beginning to ask for advice|1 thank you for this more folks need to see this|1 If one has COVID19 with dry cough should heshe resist the urge to cough as much as possible or is it better to not fight the coughing and let it out What behavior does more damage|1 This would make a great movieNational Lampoons Spring Break FeverWhen the stiff collars at South Beach Mayors Office declare Spring Break to be over its down to Sickma House Frat to show that the best way to sterilize a virusrecord scratchis eighty percent alcoholScene of Sickma House partying with girls who are wearing hazmat suits with bikinis over the top One of Sickma House appears to be dead|1 Sweden is nation proudly composed of many races|1 I dont ask customers where they come from specifically but for sure there are Chinese citizens all the time Medical staff doesnt give a fuck and just obeys the guidelines to the letter|1 Im a nurse To keep the numbers low sounds like someone just wanting to make themselves look good by how well they are managing the situation Just another suit behind a desk looking at papers Its not him that will be looking into the faces of those affected so what does he care imoIt doesnt sound like someone that gives a flying F about human lives I called our lab provider yesterday and they said that they dont offer the test in our region Houston effing Texas one of the largest cities in the nation Wtf|1 Democracy dies in darkness but American greed lives on What a gift WP sarcasm|1 an island am I correct you should block all ways in only place left standing|0 No content to this article|0 Thats true if were not at full production capacity Otherwise the total amount of labor doesnt change just the amount of money available to pay for it Unemployment is rather low so Id still expect soem amount of inflation though probably not so much that an extra K wont be quite useful Perhaps itll feel like an extra 700|0 I wouldnt be ok with it I would be ok with a 30 day quarantine|0 Variables include Chinese older men who have been lifelong smokers fighting a severe respiratory infection widespread infection prior to travel restrictions and Covid19 awareness etc these figures do not reference underlying serious health issues either While they are informative you must not base projections on potentially skewed data South Korea data should be much more indicative of future risks|0 Great news|1 we now have public advertisement in public transport that states that anyone experiencing symptoms that were in china not just hubei should call the general emergency number and stay at home|0 The wide CI is a byproduct of the minimal numbers you are mentioning as it will result in a much larger standard error More data will lead to a tighter CIOne major advantage of estimating the CFR using cases outside of China is that there may be more inclusion of asymptomatic and subclinical cases than there is in China All early CFR estimates suffer from ascertainment bias due to this very reason That said it will still be important to get the full picture once the outcome of all cases is known hopefully soon|0 So instead of directly helping five or six people with 1k each its better to help a thousand people with 6 cents eachYeah those 5 or 6 people can do a lot with that 1k but those 6 thousand peope could do the same if they pooled their money|1 SARS had asymptomatic infections but was not contagious while asymptomatic In the efforts to contain the virus thats a massive difference and makes containment near impossible you cant perfectly quarantine everyone and normally you rely on focusing on those with symptoms or focusing on them as soon as they develop symptoms but if those without symptoms can spread the virus that changes the ball game|0 Flu R0 128 2019nCov R0 2241 way more virulent Flu CFR 01 2019nCov 110 Flu Cases requiring hospitalization 1 2019nCov Cases requiring hospitalization 1820Other notable fun facts for nCov that dont apply to Influenza Incubation period spreadable before symptoms 114 or 24 days Spreadable via poop diarrhea fumesaerosolsgasesvaporstoilet flushing not sure of correct term for this mechanism of spread If you end up in the hospital you chances of death possibly jump to 60 It is possible that any vaccine for the illness may cause death if you get the virus that the same vaccine is supposed to cure Not very useful At least this is what has happened when the SARS Coronavirus vaccine was attempted a few years ago People can apparently test negative for the virus while still having it and spreading around Later on they test positive once it gets worse So countermeasures involving test and release probably will not work super reliably or perfectly Also trying to contain the virus with temperature measurements is likely very porous Likely the mass panic this causes will be worse than the virus Influenza doesnt have this issue For every case that we have info about it seems that everyone that lives in the household with the patient immediately gets the virus too Seems to be spreadable via touch sneezing breathing Can live on surfaces for many days possibly several weeks Can get into your body via mouth nose eyes or any moist place on your body A paper was released and immediately refuted that claims that nCov has bits of HIV inside it The refutations claim that it is just coincidence that the genes are present They probably are a coincidence I hope However as a layperson with no medical training it makes me a little nervous that one possible medicine for the illness is an HIV treatment drug One person that had the virus on a cruise ship resulted in at least 200 other people on said ship and the number grows each day with no signs of stopping So for this particular case in isolation is that an R0 of 200 Much different than the flu|0 That would be the smart thing but app the American way is by this point not even have testing available|1 Seem pretty critical right now wouldnt you say|1 Were obviously all very appreciative of any help we get but thats not the point and its not going to get us what we need If were all eating at the same table together and the head of the table has 1000 xs more food I do and in a generous moment shares 11068th of their food with me I guess Id be like Thanks |1 Exactly Some people wana be heroes by broadcasting things Im sure kids with actual meals are gunna still take advantage of this too There should be more restaurants doing this and communities donating to help Fuck get the gobment 2 help|1 the situation in my area doesnt seem to require isolation yetWhen it seems to is far too late|0 I believe that airborne transmission is indeed aerosols Theres also airborne via large respiratory droplets but that is dangerous only in fairly close quarters Thats how many viruses spread Less commonly as is believed to be true with influenza they can spread via small droplet nuclei much smaller than respiratory droplets at generally less than 5 m so they can carry much farther|0 My graduation is in May and Im absolutely so anxious its going to be cancelled I know its too early to tell but it isnt looking good I know its also for the better of others but I cant but helping feel defeated|0 Cancelled my trip 15 weeks ago with advice from this sub Feels good|1 How did he get this job did he win a raffle|1 coming back to the usa may not be the best idea if you do not have the support system here since they are calling for selfimposed quarantine and 14day quarantine for those coming from hubei if she is a teenager she might be mature enough to staying up to a month in chaotic unknown situation and keep safe however there is nothing to say that the us gov is any better equipped to handle this situation than the chinese it is likely that the chinese gov will prove that they are able to implement largescale deployment of resources there is no evidence that any other gov could do it better so consider if you or your spouse are chinese citizens or need to stay in china that you guys should stay as a family or close to family who will actively care for your child|1 Why would EU countries want to close their borders to other EU countries|1 Fuck Yes For real this time people|0 From what Ive seenexperienced at work school home almost anyone who appears to be cautious is instantly labelled paranoid panicking etcWell fuck me for being careful during a global outbreak Smfh|0 Doesnt count the people welded into their home dead or the ones who got sent straight to the incinerators without a test You have mis calculations on both sides of the equation Id rely on outside details like shortage of body bags and incinerator capacity to theorize more on the unconfirmed dead side than the unconfirmed infected but happy and healthy|1 The letter says theyll send you a check for any remaining balance but it still sucks|0 Its probably getting deleted because on the side it says no misinformation or hoax content|0 Overall the CDC estimates that 12000 and 61000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the fluAint nobody gonna care about some flu 11 when it has barely killed anyone compared to the common coldOh but the potential Yeah and nukes have the potential to wipe us off the face of the earth but thats not likely to happen either now is itsource httpswwwhealthcomconditioncoldflusinushowmanypeopledieoftheflueveryyear note this is USAonly numbers|0 Yes because airlines refuse to fly to Italy This was indeed an evacuation flight not an official one as it was arranged by a travel bureau is that a word from northern ItalyNo idea how they got to Lyon article doesnt mention it|1 Totally agree with younot worked up in a panic More than likely just flu I understand that we are underequipied Just not sure really why we are its not that this thing has not been building Does it not spread more with assuming very little people have this Although you are stronger than me for sure if I was in Seattle I probably would panic|0 I have no idea but i think is a bad move to go|0 Are you speculating diabetics are at greater risk of mortality|1 They can at a local level But cannot stop flights I have no idea if they can close the boarder with england as there is technically no legal boarder Should Scotland put up boarder checks between England and Scotland in an outbreak|0 Both China and Japan have reported this not just anecdotally but in larger well documented samples And keep in mind that it hasnt been long and that China is still doing intense containment efforts and that this being possible doesnt mean it will happen to everyone|1 It really doesnt mean they will close the border here but in other countries as well so Canadians would be stuck there Its very vague the way he phrased it Perhaps there is a travel ban coming up next week but that tweet is not exactly inferring that from my point of view ThoughtsEdit typo|0 If shehe was enchantinglovelysweethot its an exciting fantasy youll relive for the rest of your years If you rehook up later itll be a romantic adventure to tell your kids|1 I saw this on Twitter a minute ago I swear the US is like a dumpster fire right now regarding this outbreak We have to assume this was Grand Princess yes|1 Good bot|1 Lets not forget Janitorial services|1 No need for the sarcasm tag You quite literally cant have any confirmed cases if nobodys confirming them|0 LMFAO |1 Sigh everyone is so damn skeptical Fuck Here you go httpstwittercomChenbariatrics1status1238322250392039424s20|0 My thought process is that its instinctive I was in hawaii when hurricane lane was approaching and water sold out quick People mentioned the concern in china as well as they were afraid to drink the tap water however if the water was bad you would get sick by taking a bath so I agree it makes no sense None the less at costco there was twice as much rows for water but supplies seemed to be running low|0 He didnt even really close the colleges He said he did But he lied Its all a lot of smoke and mirrors and its going to get people killed|0 damnweed too must get weed maybe i should make a damn list|0 Quick search doesnt reveal any detergents that are effective against viruses at least nine short of bleach Id say regular detergent Lysol stuff hot water is gonna give the best result Better than nothing|1 I mean honestly young people are less likely to not have established careers and therefore more likely to work hourly They need a plan to keep hourly workers paid or at least not evicted so young people arent just on the streets again two weeks after another government shutdown of their workplaces this time homeless and now far more vulnerable if they get sick|0 Think about in terms of the virus What if a friend told you they had the virus You can only tell people you know not even the strangers you passed on the street maybe while you were sneezing or the person behind you in line at the grocery store So you have to tell your friends family and you might have to tell your boss andor your professor Now you are only one of the friends of this patient 0 Now considering the ripple effect of contagion how tf do you put everything in motion if you just have a mild cough and fever and it could be literally anything else The risk is big but also the measures are significantThis is why testing is so important although tbf patient 31 in sk was tested|1 That they should I understand that some may have noble motives but I wouldnt give them the chance|1 I work in food service and its my job to handle this crisis Im honestly at a loss for what to do if somebody reports being sick I will probably give them PTO But if I announce a Coronavirus PTO bank you better bet everybody is going to use it almost immediately sick or not|0 Thats great but I heard they have a pathetically low test capacity Like only 40day or something|0 What a bizarre appeal to the Illogical And how does a soccer player having a heart attack and dying relate to normal people dying If anything that should only make obese people more worried because if she can die from a heart attack then everyone else definitely can The same applies to covid19 If this virus can kill a young healthy person then everyone else is solI dont care how you try to spin it there is silver lining to this story If we keep getting reports of young people dying then I guess the preconceived notion that only the elderly are at risk will go out the window|0 Ignoring this will not make it go away and will just make it even more surprising to those ignoring it|0 Masks are ineffective unless professionally fitted is a lieMasks are less effective if they arent professionally fitted is the truth Masks ought to be reserved for health care workers because they are in short supply is a decent argument but thats a different conversation entirely|1 coz most of them just swiping shit under carpet|0 LoL WHO be like oh CNN said it not us|1 You know what I mean by that I mean common citizens not the president Either you really dont get it or you are just trying to be annoying|0 So um Ive got good friends that are on vacation from Texas in Italy Theyre supposed to be flying back at the end of this week or early next week Anyone know the overunder on whether or not theyll be able to fly out and get back home|1 Florida Man this Florida Man that The Sunshine Laws there give the public access to crime reports almost immediately after they happen Usually Im sick of hearing too much information out of Florida|0 He could be infected by one of the two strains and get the other strain after recovering from the first one|0 But because of politics Taiwan has been excluded from WHO|0 Yes I meant personnel The only personnel theyve accepted help from is WHO but theyve been flip flopping even on that for over a week Theyre trying to cover up their lies about the numbers|0 China lied about their numbers It was worse|0 Damn that guy gets around|0 People who knowingly travel sick should get sent back to their origin|0 Agreed One day 35k for 50 masks Next day people started buying masks and same place selling same masks now not in a box for 10 masks for 40k|1 I can see that Easier to forgive or see past someone who is likeable than not|1 I guess you dont know who Twedros Adanhom is Search what he did in Ethiopia what kind of government he supported for 26 years You might have a different feeling about it He is a chinese puppet way before he got to WHO|1 This guy sounds like an idiot|0 This is like telling the visiting cancer surgeon that he can see everything except where the cancer is|0 Good luck to her Exactly I expect to get it just hope to push the when I definitely dont want to be first in my office|1 I dealt with this 3 years ago It sucks I was on bedrest at 33 weeks Luckily she came on her own 2 weeks later no complications thank god so I didnt lose too much time with her after birth i got 11 weeks bc it was summer and im a teacher You want to soak up every minute of that 12 weeks w baby I totally get it|1 In form of knowledge regarding incubation time disease progression who is at risk mortality rate In an epidemic its hard to come by and generally require a certain period of time|0 You Are Not Wrong|1 Ditto Methotrexate and Remicade No one seems to understand how bad this could be for me Even my husband has labeled me as an alarmist and silly for preparing for a lockdown in the house for a month|0 You shut down social interactions like was done in China South Korea etc|1 TERRIFYIN SCIFI MOVIE PLOT A deadly virus sweeps the globe but the only information citizens receive from vital scientists and doctors must be cleared through a religiousfanatic that believes smokin dont cause cancer dinosaurs never existed and plagues are sent by God|1 Well judging by your user name Im taking your post only halfseriously maybe even just a quarterseriously|1 I despise trump ya doof You pop in here and argue a straw man I never claimed it was airborne like measles Youre 100 autistic if you think me or anyone reading it would think I was claiming absolute numbers I pulled numbers completely out of my ass but go ahead and read the edits I made to the comment maybe youll feel better even though the point is the exact same masks on everybody is OBVIOUSLY better than notHave a good day were done here|1 Why wouldnt it be in the millions1 infected person with no symptoms they probably cross paths with dozens of people a day If not hundreds if were talking about contaminated surfaces or lingering air in places like super marketsThen each of those newly infected but no symptom people pass it around Isnt this thing so contagious that it could be every major city around the world Thats at least 2 billion people|0 Maybe going full keto isnt necessary but trying to cut back on carbs I read elsewhere that going glutenfree can help some people recover better from respiratory illnesses Gluten may cause inflammation in some people but they are not otherwise aware of it|1 Honestly would they admit if he actually had it That would send people into a frenzy|1 The irony is nicotine in this instance would help the body fend off the virus from what Ive read including all the vitamins face masks cold meds and other such precautions obviously Just to relate to the post though it was the black market wax pens filled with fucked chemicals mostly in the US that caused the freak out and illnesses Every gov in western countries are trying to ban flavored nicotine ejuice and has been banned here in Aus for a while but its not hard to get at all The reality is most western countries are ignorant to every threat unless its immediate aka in this case some kids got sick and everyone sees kids puffin on a vapes cause and effect With the virus it popped up people thought china would handle it how ignorant of everyone and from there it just snowballed especially with the world not seeing eye to eye on much other than climate change|0 I hate to agree with this I know people act badly under stress I have seen them freak out here in hurricane country Ive seen the armed police that were needed at our supermarket Needed Ive seen them act up at the gas station when everyone was bugging out I dont forget Katrina and New Orleans and Houston They choose to lie to those people so they dont victimize everyone else and others can do their jobs I pay attention and am ready as best I can be and I admit that Im relieved that life pretends to be normal right now Normal is better I love fairy tales Im going to follow this storyline as long as I can before the witch and the flying monkeys come and scare the crap out of me and I have to protect whats important Take good care people|1 Wow Very cool|1 Good on ya mate|1 Todays going to be very interesting in the local stores with the avalanche of news yesterday afternoon and eveningMay just visit for entertainment reasons|1 Gonna need to add a few zeros to that number to actually make a difference|1 Saying someone is being hysterical is sexist Sure thing Felicia|1 Of course But Im not taking unnecessary risks regardless of patient load|1 Hey guys we are running low on some drugs Not going to tell you which ones good luck lolBut seriously otherwise a good update Not sure why theyd mention a shortage on an ingredient for pharmaceuticals but not inform the public on what the drug is|1 You probably wont like my advice but here it goesYouve tried being reasonable with her and explaining the situation She is obviously not respecting your wishes You no longer have to be reasonable with her If she does show up DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR And call the cops At this point she is an unwelcome intruder You have warned her that she is not welcome in your home while there is a global pandemic going on Its up to you if you want to warn her that if she shows up you are ready to call the police to have her removed from your property I know this sounds really extreme and will probably cause a big issue but honestly youve tried to explain it to her She is refusing to respect your wishes You have to protect yourself and your mother Best of luck to you|1 What is there that Im not comprehending hereIn antibodydependent enhancement of disease antibodies incompletely neutralize the virion like in Dengue carrying it to the Fc pathway and allowing it to infect and overstimulate macrophages and immune cellsIn Thelper immunopathology the various CD receptors of the immune cells are overstimulated and release excess cytokines interferon etc and inflammation becomes severe like Spanish FluThe angiotensinrenin system of the body controls vasoconstriction and vasodilation and there are numerous papers out there on the effect that SARS had dysregulating it as well as the adverse affect on the cardiopulmonary system It can cause inflammation in various organs Vasoconstriction and vasodilation is pretty simple to explain If someone snorts cocaine and they get coke dick thats vasoconstriction If they take viagra and get the opposite thats vasodilation Now imagine this happening to your organs injuring your capillaries and starving them of oxygenated blood and increasing inflammation Picture having hypertension but focal and localized to specific parts of the body Picture the blood vessels in your heart squeezing shut due to improper angiotensin signaling and the muscle being starvedSARSCoV2 may do all three all at the same time causing a threeway inflammation tango that destroys organs and blood vesselsBasically in the process of the virus binding to those receptors on the cells it stimulates that particular system of the body as if it was being activated by your own endogenous secretions Thats how a lot of drugs work they bind to receptor sites on cells and stimulate certain forms of activity just like how when you take a hit of a narcotic substance it can bind to dopamine receptors or opioid receptors The difference with viruses is that they use these receptor sites as entryways into and through the cell membrane itself injecting their viral code into the nucleus and using the cells own mechanisms to replicate the virions which go on to infect other cellsThink of the receptor site of a cell as being like a doorbell A virus rings the doorbell before yelling BANZAI And taking a flying leap into the door busting it down and entering the house the cell whereupon it proceeds to raid your fridge and fuck your wife and make ten handsome virus babies before burning your house down|1 Had a small financial cushion but that blew out the window stocking up for the possibility of panic or bugin Wife still thinks Im slightly insane Oh well|0 He is asking insurance companies to waive the costs meaning the copay that you may pay for an urgent care visit Usually labs are covered as long as they are ordered by your doctor already It will save most people 20 to 40 dollars at most|1 Fortunately a problem that solves itself|0 COVID19 is a lower respiratory infection Sinus symptoms are very rare with it from all Ive readStill good to get tested though|1 Thanks|1 Im going to be so mad when they cancel Real Madrid games especially since we ware 2 points back of Barca But I understand why|0 didnt the same happen during the spanish flu nobody was reporting except spain so everyone though it was a spain only thing|0 This is probably what americans should do Fly to countries sure to test you with the cheap af airline prices|1 I only ever had two grandparents I lost both of them in the last 9 months I do not wish that on anyone Im staying home except for work bc I cant quit my job Other than that Im going no where|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 It will mostly protect others You are spreading more droplets while handling your scarf and raise the risk of infection If you do not touch it and throw it away it could work |1 I might be Floridian and therefore a staunch rival to the texans but i gotta admitnot bad|0 I listened to a podcast earlier where they had some doctor go on and talk about the virusShe said Dont buy masks you will look really stupid She went on to say how they are totally ineffective and how a vaccine probably wont even be necessary because this could just blow overReally sad when medical professionals spread misinformation|0 The politics is what is going to kill unnecessary millions We need somebody plain and honest to tell it as it is and maintain their oath and not their Swiss bank account|0 You arent even using logicIf they came out all of a sudden and then said this is going pandemic and get everything you need now people will have done runs on groceries and goods and created shortages immediatelyThat hinders containment and makes it very hard to keep replenishing stock Conversely slowly pushing out the information getting people used to it and then asking people to prepare reduces that and allows stock to maintain proper flow In the end you have MORE people that are prepared and LESS crime as people try to steal supplies from othersAlso remember people need goods for every day use Baby formula for example if there was a run on grocery stores and it ran out MORE people would be in a WORSE situation then people gradually increasing their supplies to weather thisEdit As for your second part the world isnt ending Companies will remain and 401ks will still be there Do you want a recession or depression after this Stop playing the doomer role and use your head This is a BAD situation but not an apocalyptic event|0 Oh man While Singapore Japan and Australia also show signs of community transmission based on phylogeny httpsnextstrainorgncovclocationlunrootedmdivThe sign is if theres a small cluster more related to each other than to Wuhan or another source Its fascinating to see the genetic information come in independent from the newspaper information Not good but fascinating We couldnt see this even five years ago|1 I dont think they want it to but its going to end up on account of mismanagement at the top Probably going to be similar to heckuva good job Brownie during the Katrina days|1 What seems to be the percentage of patients winding up in ICUMy biggest concern is what happens when hospitals run out of resources Whats the effect on the mortality rate then In the US that could be disastrous in rural areas|0 China is doing a great job at containing the outbreak|1 Welcome to not America We suck less here in not America|1 In reality its mostly my thing with a little bit of your thing but in order to ensure my thing we have to tolerate a little bit of your thing A small price to pay if you ask me|1 Unsung heroes All this sinophobia going around must stop These are people just like us who are sacrificing everything for the health of others|1 Wearing a mask during SARS was associated with about a 7080 drop in infection I think the article below cites 70 Doesnt have to be an n95 httpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle102030730article|0 CDCs case definitions require fever unless there is contact with a known caseCDCs suspected case definitions require fever and contact with a known case or severe disease with COVID19like presentation eg CT finding and no other explanation|0 Im laughing too but also sad that many old and sick will die Ive done all I can to warn folks to get a jump on containment and isolation before it spreads massively Ive been home for four days Planning to be here for months if need be Most people arent doing that yet meaning they may get sick and every major city in the US will be like Italy is now|0 We went from the first case in nyc yesterday to first case of unknown origin today Its evolving quickly Glad to see they are testing|1 Correct me if Im wrong here but 133 new deaths in a single day is to my knowledge bigger than the biggest deathsday in China Also hello nearly 5 CFR|0 You know youre right Selfdriving cars are probably going to be incredibly useful in the next few months and with drastically fewer cars on the roads are likely to be far easier to drive|1 Censorship Period Let the reader decide I do not need a nanny deciding for me what is good information and what is bad information|0 That thumbnail is top notch Conveys emotion on par with the Impressionists|1 It depends on the study The large Chinese study referred to patient records and thus most people included have been in some kind of care Theyve also been severe enough to warrant a precious testing resourceIt is true that they might not be actually hospitalized but theyve been seeking medical care and help and thus are on the severe end of the spectrum Theyve also been in the medical system long enough to have enough information to be included in the study They went through 77k records and only 44k were includedMedical visits number isnt that comparable since those people arent actually tested and there might be several visits per case If I experience cough and fever and present myself to the health care system without severe symptoms they will tell me to go home and recuperate there They wont waste limited testing resources on everyone with fever and cough as most of them would be something else in any case They will also recommend people to just stay and recover at home Theres no healthcare system which can handle panicky masses who do not need any careThat said the best comparison number from flu might lie somewhere between hospitalizations and medical visits Impossible to know at this point thoughIn general current numbers for covid19 do not include people such as Those with no symptoms asymptomatic Those with mild symptoms who didnt even think of getting care Those with medium symptoms who didnt even think of getting care Those with severe symptoms who didnt even think of getting care Those with mild to medium symptoms who were turned away because it would be unwise to spend any resources on people who can fend for themselves Those with more severe symptoms but who were turned away due to resource limits because the symptoms werent severe enough Those who had any symptoms but the disease ran its cycle before people even started thinking it was anything else than flu During the peak some people with severe symptoms would be turned away as well Some of them might have died in their homes They wouldnt change the numbers that much since they would be similar to the people who were admitted in the systemThere are also limits to testing capacity always so only people with severe enough symptoms to warrant some kind of care will be tested ever This will apply to everywhere else in the future as well when epidemics ariseThere are some cases where most of the population is tested One is Diamond Princess and there was a rumor of an Italian where the governor tested everyone didnt find any data yet|1 I hate that sentiment I remember an askreddit thread from a while ago that asked if the votes of people over a certain age shouldnt count due to the idea they wont personally live through the long lasting outcomes of said politicians theyre voting for Thankfully that sentiment was widely rejected for a multitude of reasons by the comment section|0 We started taking this seriously all country locked down when hospitals got full|0 Unfuckingreal Ill do whatever I think is best to protect myself and my family Fuck the CDC|1 Cant argue with that|1 Good times |1 No thats what he said Primaries are going on now he expects Trump to abuse power and set up mass lockdowns before the convention to disrupt the whole campaign|0 Where is the dipshit calling it Italian Flu and spreading misinformation Im sure hell be here soon|0 Ocala here My son had the flu 2 weeks ago and the dr said that there are 4 strands of the flu going around right now Hopefully coronavirus wont be the 5th|0 Its sad that nonna has passed on Way worse that she took that divine putanesca sauce with her to the grave|0 Article says it was cardiac arrest|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes for Young heathy person its just flu But youre gonna spread it over your family and old ones might not take it so easy|1 Exactly this Were to have a yearly verification done on the property We recieved a flyer asking to confirm well be home on 3rd of april by phone Im waiting it out Im pretty sure theyll have to reschedule the visit and this is driving my husband crazy|1 I wish I could upvote this 100 times|1 How is that a Pro tip Have you died n come back to life to verify Lol RelaxIf even for peace of mind and the possibility it can be true it doesnt hurt to think that when you close your eyes a new adventure begins Atleast thats if there is no hell thenn idk were all pretty much fd lolJust be a good person n youll be good either way|1 Youre a troll and an idiot lmao|1 Same here Italian whos been living in Vienna for the past decade Fuck this government at any other time but theyve kept coming through during this crisis Gotta hand it to them|0 What if we are the crazy ones Friends family and coworkers say Im worrying about nothing Im planning for a school closing that may never happen or mass rush on supplies at grocery stores that may never happen What if Im the crazy one|0 I am truly disappointed in people like Musk Putting profits over people Shame|1 Right but how proportional is it 2x 3x 5x 10x We have no idea And its very contagious otherwise china wouldnt have shutdown their economy for a month over it The US should be taking shit more seriously and not downplaying it since theres only 80k cases|0 Ngl carnival is lagging when I see that even Disney is offering 100 back|0 Depending on where it is I have been to three cards In Saskatoon it was damn near full from the get go Same for the first card in Edmonton|0 I like to tenderize B with a grenade first Gotten a lot of quads that way|1 Mine is Joy|1 Stop posting this disingenuous bullshit|0 Nice|1 The thing is the top policy makers of the CCP would likely want western countries to put on these restrictions theyve been trying to curb capital fight and the resulting devaluing of the yuan for years|0 These people dont live in China have never been to China and certainly have no experience with how fuckwitted Chinese bureaucracy and authority isNo one who has actually had to deal with the moronic stupidity of Chinese authority is going to be surprised at stuff like thisbut youre dealing with basement dwelling American teenagers who are living out their paranoid dystopian fantasies Knowing the Chinese theyll stay in there until the water runs out and then phone some family member to come cut them out and then forget about the whole thing|0 The 3rd patient on that list did not have any mental or respiratory illness He is the one who died at home when he was going about his normal life I think some of the less reliable media confused him with the 3rd death in Daegue who was hospitalized in Daenam hospital x200B httpsnewssbscokrnewsendPagedonewsidN1005674228plinkORIcooperDAUMhttpsnewssbscokrnewsendPagedonewsidN1005674228plinkORIcooperDAUM|0 He was born into it he filed for bankruptcy six times Nothing to be proud of|0 China Building quality and safe vaccines and pharmaceuticals for the rest of the world And hotels Oh wait a second|1 Exactly numbers appear to be dropping in China but didnt they literally weld some doors shut somewhere Cant keep people locked away until the end of time as soon as all the people come back out boom wave 2 baby Im not an expert so I wont presume to be I understand people are panicking about a perceived lack of action but the one thing this country has always had going for it during WW2 etc is really intelligent scientists and engineers behind the scenes Lets try to save the panic until the approach of the incredibly advanced simulations and computer modelling is proven wrong|0 Its only serious because panicked people have it so much power and control over their lives There was no need for things to get to this point but people overreacted anyways This is a simple virus that will duh its course in most people If there had never been a label put on this then people would have thought they had a bad cold|0 I see youre pretty fucking ignorantMost Chinese approve of the government|1 But later found these equipment faulty|0 The second one people like them are way more lilely to die thet are way more in contact with people and they have around so many money the problem is they have very few test|0 Calm down CD dudei never deny it lie buddyu dont see i confessI admin the government lie since u see Drli deathi just put it out that the covid19 number dont liemaybe GOV fake 60000 to a 50000 but it still has value to warn Getu think UK and USA dont test so no number being reported is better than CCPdont mad OTHER THING WITH CCP|1 If you have a waterproof phone just scrub it with water and a little dish soap Its the scrubbing that removes the virus most effectively|1 I mean We have 6 kids We are using some things but I replace consistently and will until such time as I deem it unsafe to go to the store frequently Once people start really going nuts and panicking more work and school get cancelledthen I will stop leaving Until then Im real careful With sanitizer washing hands not touching myself etc|0 no audience|0 Wouldnt be an issue if Trumps CDC and their Trump appointees would actually take action instead of worrying about the stock market Remember you can designimplement the most perfect system in the world and it wouldnt work if you have an idiotmany idiots behind the wheel|1 Are you saying more than 9 million people will die of influenza this year|0 I have a mild cold and am wearing a mask for just that reason Its almost certainly nothing but man would I feel like shit if it wasnt and I gave it to my older coworkers and one of them or their family died from it|0 In Qinghaisaying the hospital refuses to do test even they have all symptoms And even the result is positive they were asked to go home to selfquarantine with their whole family living togetherAre these recent reports or old ones I can tell you in Guangdong they have been doing a shit load of testing and no one is getting sent home if they are positive|1 Some theories believe these second time positives are actually not healed|1 Over all I like and respect Dave Ramsey even if we differ spiritually Im surprised he would be so against being prepared and being self reliant but it is what it is |1 Thank you for this|1 I know you are looking for anonymity but would you be willing to share where in NJ fellow new jerseyan here|1 To be clear it doesnt give data on how low their cell counts are I would hope it would be mild in mild cases and severe in severe cases|0 People need to be sure theyre adhering to the additional precautions in addition to wearing a mask Theyre only effective if used properly and in conjunction with other measures My wife works with this stuff every day in healthcare and while waiting to meet someone in the lobby of her hospital saw 3 people walk through the doors and put on a mask In the process all 3 would have infected themselves by touching their face and all 3 walked right by the hand sanitizer stations which were setup at the entrance|1 Thank you|1 Are you able to do teletherapy at all with your clients Im a therapist and while our office is still open for the time being I have asthma so I asked to shift entirely to teletherapy and was allowed to do this Im giving the option of video chat or telephone and most of the video chat options allow clients to seehear the therapist with videoheadphones while retaining the option for the client to reply by typing in the event that they are concerned about being overheard by family members or roommates Obviously this is more of a challenge with phone calls and with clients who have limited resources or are not tech savvy but at the end of the day a certain amount of physical wellness is prerequisite for therapy ie being able to breathe You are of no service to any of your clients if you get sick and while therapy is important during times of anxiety like this being exposed and contracting an illness is not good for mental health either I hope your office starts taking precautions soon Stay safe|1 Livelihood means absolutely fuck all when youre dead Id rather deal with the consequences of lockdown and be able to look towards the future and recover as a country than be staring death in the face|0 Keep in mind Americans in general arent actually that healthy The ones that are healthy seem to really care but I see more and more people looking for that magic bullet stupid remedies and such instead of basic diet exercise cut unhealthy habits I honestly think were going to get it a lot worse than some countries definitely worse than predicted or people are expecting|0 Lol this guy|1 I read an article statement from TrumpI dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasnt our fault Mr Trump said on Saturday Are the numbers what matters here or the people|1 This is exactly how Im feeling about it all Im in the uk Ive seen this coming since JanuaryAt the moment I have people telling me theres no point closing schools as children dont get coronavirus People including drs are still waving off fears as its only flu|0 We already almost had one SARS pandemic thats why south Korea was prepared Its not like this is coming from nowhere And even during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic the majority of deaths were from pneumonia Anyone who was studying disease would have seen those two outbreaks as very dangerous|0 That is great news|1 As an ex nurse I can confirm that if this is true then the world is screwed|0 Hopefully not her The death of the Queen will trigger a lot of public events all across the commonwealth|1 That helps with your mental health Itll keep you busy while cooped up at home Thats what Id be doing right now or working on the garden if it werent raining|1 You silly of course you first have to apply for permit A38 as stipulated in circular B65 obtainable at counter C third floor of City HallTesting without permit lol Where do you think you are some backwater italian village|0 Agreed When I was a new nurse I wanted to get my hands on anything I could I didnt know anything though Now I know more I still want to be on the front lines if it got bad enough but knowing what I know now Im way more apprehensive Id need the correct PPE and support from the hospital Wouldnt want to compromise my loved ones|1 Less individualistic societies People more willing to accept some level of personal sacrifice for the common good Strong federal control and small land mass|1 Shanghai has been a ghost town for the last month almost nobody outside everyone staying indoors Friends in BJ say its been the same there|1 Not sure why you are getting downvoted for this|0 Anything beyond Its just the flu Bro wash your hands is a dangerous conspiracy theory to them x200BReddit is just a disinformation operation to prevent panic at this point Update from Milan Fearmongering Video from China Fearmongering Say something good or neutral about Trump Election interference Criticize the Mayor of San Francisco Hate speech racism and TOS violation Have a helpful tip for how to sterilize and reuse masks Its a hoax thats already been debunked Say that theres nothing to worry about and people shouldnt be upset about coronavirus OK thats a valuable contribution to the community|0 Lol nurses RubbishAlways dramatizing Lack of knowledge always freaking out and needing to be treated just like the patients Sometimes even more so|1 No People that keep making excuses like this are the stupid ones Yes you need to money Your employer is responsible for paying you for as long as you need to take time off Youre basically advocating murder to make a few bucks Stop with this excuseEspecially for a CALL CENTER job Probably one of jobs most compatible with WFH|0 No It is a matter of national security And national security now means the Presidents interests|1 Not a doctor but a huge congrats to your much healthier lifestyle Id say youve already greatly improved your chances but I cant say anything about the asthma|1 There is nothing in that first study that says Iranians have an abnormally high frequency of the allelle in question It just says that the allelle increases the chance for flu|0 you crazy if you think the economy can handle it people will have to be forced to quarantine they wont self quarantine at that point|0 Ahhh shucks Better get used to 4 more years of mean words Ahahahahahahaha|1 I do not think they are being taken to US bases in Japan for quarantine they are going to fly back to the US via the bases They will finish quarantine in the US though I have a feeling that by the times this gets set up the initial 14 day period may have expired anyway|1 I feel like this episode of the Twilight Zone is relevant if anyone is looking for a Netflix recommendation Stay home take care of yourselves but most importantly Dont add to the panicMonsters Are Due on Maple Sthttpswwwnetflixcomwatch70174036trackId14170289tctx02C212Cfb212722962d4405bed0439a0d8625676027554402C838ab4ca8ba84d91b9e29381e71ff982171226801X3XX15843355355692C838ab4ca8ba84d91b9e29381e71ff982ROOT|1 The government did not cut their funding It was proposed in this years budget that has not gone into effect So while you may not like that is may have been cut in the future you cannot blame that on what is happening now|1 You mean covering your mouth is better than not Then why are the experts saying otherwise|1 It is There are videos on twitter which has the best information leaked from china Seriously look it up its bad|0 Luckily we have bottleneck point airportsTheres a huge difference between spreading in hubei area only no barrier major cities in china medium barrier Spreader from wuhan need to take bus to reach them and rest of the world huge barrier approachable only via airportAnd its easy to track people who arrive in airport from china because the records are available Unlike you just dont have list of people coming to beijing from wuhan by busSo within china expect crazy exponential growth Outside china Lets hope not|1 Well he tried to buy an experimental vaccine from a company in Germany and have it be exclusive to the US thats what he have done about the coronavirus|1 As a parent of a toddler under 2 knowing that the mortality rate heavily skews to older age groups makes this whole thing tolerable and allows me to not be paralyzed by fear Any death is tragic but I dont think it takes a psychopath to think a person who has had a full life dying is less tragic than a child dying|0 On the plus side its Darwinian The know nothings who form their view of the world from Fox News please note the quotation marks will selfselect for exposure and the rest is predictable|1 Its a super common expression|1 Considering the patient 0 in Italy is from Germany this feels like Germany started something then blamed Italy is losing itoh wait a second that sounds familiar|0 Your totally right I probably would be people are wack I hope you made it out the apocalypse bro|1 Downvoted and removed This sub is Chinese propaganda|0 100 fucked|0 Reminds me of my graveyard shift days Got a lot of disappointed looks from senior citizens as I bought a 30 pack of Miller High Life and a bag of microwave burritos at 6 am on a Tuesday|0 Not only that he was on the ventilator and later put on ECMO until they exhausted all possibilities to save him Thats a very rare and expensive system that most patients wouldnt be able to get to use|1 no panic set inOh well thank God its all over You hear that everyone There was no panic this weekend Were in the clear No way this could like get worse or anything|0 At least someone is interested I really containing this|1 Glad to hear That seems to be the worst part of it Thanks and get well|1 This is very eerie to read It was just 25 35 4 months ago according to OP article How much weve learned|0 I expect grocery store freaks out too Stockpilers will eventually run out of money Resellers will stop getting buyersUntil then though its hunting season and people will be going to the store everyday because of greedy people spreading the virus even more|0 that the Sunday manifestations werent cancelled or postponed is absolutely unacceptable Indeed the government did the opposite Then when Italy a country with which Spain does a lot of trade and business with went on lockdown it took 3 days for something to happen This is the country with the second highest number of cases in Europe well as of yesterday at least As far as I know the prime minister has still not had a national press conference about this Also anecdotally speaking people here arent taking any precautions Coughing and sneezing completely openly in restaurants public transportation ecc its disgusting under normal circumstances and yet even with a pandemic jo one gives a shit|0 Thank God there is atleast one person on this sub concerned with spreading correct information and correcting wrong speculation that does nothing but spread panic Covid19 is very serious no Im not one of those oh its just like the flu types but Im pretty tired of people trying to spread panic and attempt to hype it up into a apocalypse scenario because thats entertaining to do apparently|1 According to articles I read Doctors at UC Davis submitted sample for CDC testing CDC denied request doctors submitting sample fought for testing until the CDC gave in result came back positive|0 Escaped research sample for scientificmedical applications or military Often those two programs run congruently I think So heres something Ive been contemplating lets say it did get out prematurely might that nation then figure well we are going to have to roll with it Whats next I wonder ifwhen China eliminate it from within their borders|1 But call before coming to the ER if it is COVID19 we dont want to expose the rest of the ER and the healthcare workers|1 Table 2httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle208354JOC70085T2 shows the categories of nonpharmaceutical intervention combinations the number of cities implementing those combinations and the median and range of duration of implementation by each of the 43 cities during the study period combinationscombinationscombinationscombinationscombinations|1 I dont doubt its coming but what makes you so certain it comes tomorrow|1 How about you post some evidence of it being able of asymptomatic transmission then Im sure authorities around the world would very much like to see it|1 The United States isnt providing universal healthcare has done VERY few tests isnt closing schools isnt shutting down all public events and isnt at all being honest about thisMerely closing borders is not enough on its own|1 False testing is always useful|1 I thought the idea was to try and avoid the collapse of their economy|0 Yes i support your decidion Going to an event is stupid huge event very stupid Your not crazy you just care about your close ones|1 Went to the doctor today Was the only one out of doctors and patients that was wearing a mask In the bathroom there was a sign that they wanted you to wear a mask if you had a temp diarrhea vomiting etc But at the bottom it said because of the flu Now keep in mind this sign was in the bathroom It should have been on the front door or in some area where you have to see it right away Many people dont go to the bathroom If they do they may have been sitting in the office for 20 mins first|0 718 CASE fatality rate Ie of the people who were tested Still awful but there are definitely many more who are untested which would mean the overall mortality rate would be lower|0 Im actually really impressed by the mix of foods youve gone with Really solid representations from around the globe|1 In 2003 after doctors performed a routine CAT scan of his kidneys Jobs learned he had a rare form of pancreatic cancer But instead of opting for surgery which is what doctors recommended they were overjoyed that they caught the cancer so early Jobs instead tried to heal himself by becoming a strict vegan eating large amounts of fruit juices and carrotshttpswwwbusinessinsidercomstevejobsdietfoodextremefastinghabits20197|0 laughs in Canada|1 It is not only exponential growth it is worse there is a delay of weeks between the infection and onset curve and the curve of severe critical and fatal casesThe exponential growth of the infection and onset curve of now will only fully hit you in a few weeks in the curve of current severe critical and fatal cases|0 Solid Snake|1 yeah lmao theyre just showing us lists on how to be cautious like washing hands and stuff and saying theres a low risktheres no confirmed cases where i am but theyre reacting so slowly that its definitely going to spread|1 Oof In other words they dont have enough tests Well done Ontario Canada s|1 I have a friend who became sick last Saturday with a cough fever of 101 and aches Negative for the flu wouldnt test her because she wasnt sick enoughToday she went to health services to get cleared to work isnt cleared for another week the person who checked her out told her she probably has it and they STILL wont test her|0 My post got removed by the mod because it contained an information source deemed unreliable by the mod So Im posting it here again without the twitter linkWolves come in sheeps clothing rCoronavirushttpswwwredditcomrCoronavirus was promoted by Reddit as a credible sub but it is swarming with CCP shills I suspect the sub promotes posts that put China in a good light aka China number one and get disproportionate amounts of upvotes several thousands in an attempt to appear as a mainstream public opinionSome common messages include China has successfully contained the virus Now its Chinas turn to save the world Without China the world cant survive Shifting blame on other countries eg Italy US etcThat sub is highly compromised and is highly likely a vehicle for CCP propaganda So thank you for posting your warning here and raising awareness|1 Link Curious Thanks|1 I dont know several colleges including my Alma Matter are moving to online only Events are being cancelled New Rochelle has been quarantined Maybe the top brass doesnt take it seriously but more on the ground are Should we be doing more fuck yes but its becoming more and more real to everyone and things are changing|0 Who will enforce that thoughCops arent immune to viruses|0 Is there anyone who doesnt want this|0 Because the flu has a mortality rate of 1 in modern times Coronavirus mortality rate is 2 significantly higher Its actually right around the same as the 1918 pandemic which killed 50 million people Yes go on with your life with some extra precautions but completely ignoring this is just irresponsible|0 My parents protected me a lot from how serious 911 was but I think I did develop anxiety from it I cant prove that but it started for me around the age I was when it happened I have anxiety but Im strongly focused on the public good and passionate about our leaders making wise decisions Im considering going into politics soon because of that Your kids might develop anxiety and they might not Have conversations with them that are age appropriate and let them know that youve got them And that everyone can learn from this experience|1 World leaders trying to control a bad dog by beating it over the head with a newspaper roll|0 Im not saying I disagree with you but if people are dumb wouldnt you prioritize security over privacy since they need help protecting themselves or protecting other people from their ill considered actions|0 Hopefully he kept the bug spray|1 Because if Im recalling correctly estimates of the number of infected and incubating at the early part of the outbreak were based on those much lower R0s If a R0 of 57 is correct then that number was likely a lot higher and allowing more time to spread Its also further troubling in the fact that one mistake can cause an outbreak And hell that rhymed|0 The real problem is the almost total lack of federal leadership|0 Yes|1 Is every property manager going to waive rent for the month Is food going to be provided Are jobs going to pay every person to stay homeCause if not then this is never going to work People are just too poor to be able to afford this kind of time off without life altering implications|0 looks scary|0 Are you serious thats insane|0 This is why 15hour minimum wage is a farceSure but automation means not paying your own citizens wages which lead to lowered to zero consumption You can basically automate everything away But whos gonna buy your products when no one is receiving wagesAre companies automating away jobs so that they can sell their products to robots Because humans sure as hell arent buying something if they have no jobs and no cash|0 Do you know what video she was watching by chance|1 Lol how else should we decide by height or good looks|1 So its too risky for you to take photos and video|0 stamp it approved you cottoneared ninnymuggin woah there theres no need for that kind of language|1 People who survived the Spanish Flu had some protection against the 2009 H1n1 pandemic from what I heard|1 I dont own a dog yet I seem to know more about them than you interestingdogs need walking and are immune to coronavirus Therefore if you practice mask and glove wearing and social distancing going to walk the dog is harmless|1 Meanwhilewhile I work at Starbuckswe cant take your personal cup because of coronavirusTheres already quite a bit of confirmed cases in my state This has just given me the mindset that if I get it I get it If I die I dieI highly doubt murica will do jack shit to combat it Big corp companies cant lose their fuckin profits or anything crazy like that|0 Who gives a fuck about Florida|0 Was wondering about that Thanks for the update|1 This is really bad The world does not have enough isolation rooms for airborne transmission|0 Something about this type of antiintellectualism with the likes ratio and everything in this day and age where the idiots are celebrated and the people who know things are laughed outit makes me feel so much rage|1 Exactly People would end up homeless would have to drop out of college would lose their kids America has flaws this isnt excusing them just pointing out that fallout is a real thing|0 After this is over no one will want to manufacture in China|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Can confirm that shit makes me so much more afraid|0 You would need to violate constitutional law to make this happen or declare martial lawNot that I dont agree with your point|0 how can you be 100 certain |1 Bro dont buy tickets period cant get a refund if the companies go bankrupt|0 i feel like some jail time is in order after the hospital stint if they survive|1 If anything this is the spin I got the virus Im fine you should all relax|1 thats awesome i can relate havent prepared nearly as hardcore as you probably should have but at least I have prepared some and warned many others who are starting to finally believe I was right|0 Wolves were initially domesticated for food There is no such thing as domesticated cat by the way we never domesticated them we just keep them locked up and teach them to come back for food|0 isolating everybody is the clever thing to do now to prevent the growth as much as possible if instead of an average of 24 at the beginning people would only infect 09 person on average or lower we could effectively see the rate of new infections drop of to 0 meanwhile the health system does not get overburdened and new ways to treat the disease can be developed and evalutated now it is probably best to do as much as possible as more is way better than not enough|1 Thanks for the link Written in 2007Karl Greenfelds book is excellent BTW|1 Surely testing all people arriving into the country is a logical thing to do How can it not be effective|1 So for example the early small sample study httpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200126919985v1 claimed that since ACE2 is expressed in higher amounts in Asians and the virus attacks the ACE2 receptor specifically that this is the reason for the seemingly high rates in AsiaSecond study unpublished refutes this httpswwwpreprintsorgmanuscript2020020051v1downloadved2ahUKEwi72fWMhdTnAhX3xDgGHRsCVcQFjACegQIBBABusgAOvVaw2pzuIiViozA2V75U0cWaKAcshid1581786335345to say that whilst the receptor targeted is correct the main cause of the over expression in Asians is actually due to smoking which is likely further exacerbated by environmental factorsIf there does turn out to be an ethnic driving force behind ACE2 expression or maybe even something like increased presence in Asian smoker vs non Asian smoker then thats an ethnic specific feature that allows the virus to cause more damage to AsiansAnd then on top of that if most Chinese smoke and most Chinese live in China where environmental factors work together to cause ACE2 overexpression then it starts to become an argument over which Chinese are affected eg ethnic mainland Chinese vs Malaysian ethnic ChineseDepending on your classification of ethnicity then there may be a dilineation between mainland Chinese and non mainland Chinese anyway in which case its not possible to separate environmental factors given the issues across all of ChinaAnyway all of the studies are prepubliahed with no peer review and it wont be possible to see any full study or breakdown or irrefutable explanation or evidence until were well and truly through this in a year or so maybe|0 It will grow but it has QUITE a bit to go to get to 20 like China I think the Diamond Princess is a good example Around 40 severecritical out of 750ish infections Which puts it at around 5 380 were asymptomatic And enough time has passed that most cases have resolved or will be resolved soon|1 This is also very valid the infected untested is surely much greater than the dead untested|0 I think as long as they have a constant nuturing caregiver they will be ok Lots of skin to skin etc|1 No only Americans can come inThe other comment was about flights Flights from Mexico can land at Ottawa airport for example But flights from London Heathrow cannot land at Ottawa airport But in both cases only Canadian citizens American citizens diplomatic passports flight crews can enter the country|0 Its not the plan The problem is that no one has anti bodies yet|0 Thank you Pedro Hope youre having a good day|1 I saw someone wearing a mask today when i stopped at the store this morning Frankly what others do doesnt concern me especially if theyre trying to be courteous and healthconscious of those around them Sure Ive read that a mask wont do much to prevent catching Covid19 but if it makes that person feel better then awesome Thank you for having other peoples health in mind Its the same reason I get the flu shot in recent years I havent gotten the flu myself in 14 years but it makes me feel better than I wont be passing it on to my husbands grandparents or someone else who potentially could suffer greatly from the flu|1 Ive asked our doctor in London Ontario about prescribing us chloroquine phosphate yesterday Even if one of our family members becomes infected with COVID19 she said she would not prescribe it to the infected patient and their family as there is no study showing its efficiency in this case and were not planning on travelling to an area with increased risk of exposure to malaria We need trial results first Understandable but frustrating|0 So by peak do they mean that 50 will be infected in the next two weeksSorry if my questions sounds stupid|0 Younger people still need a hospital nearly as much as older people they just have a higher chance of recovery But in the US we all know spending a week or two in the hospital will bankrupt most people|0 JIT is absolutely incredible The amount of money saved by not having to invest in weeks or months of supplies and then the money saved by not having to toss all sorts of spares when you make changes is incredible Plus it allows you to be much more flexible in what you make Its less resilient and can have cascading issues Those are absolutely swamped by the cost savings at a firm and economy level by not having so much money tied up in parts that arent being used It also creates more opportunity for small and growing firms they dont have to invest as much in initial capacity and they can more easily handle an orderinitial delivery quantity for a day or a weeks worth of product from a big company than in a quarters worth|1 No worries bud Were all in this hell together The reality is that the virus is going to grow to a point where 35 billion people are affected by the end of the year The only way this wont happen involves intense measures like the chinese government undertook which essentially boils down to a complete shutdown of the economy Both options suck We will probably end up with a blending of both|0 Yeah me too Theres also MedCram|1 So glad I live in the middle nowhere and my job is me by myself its like Im already quarantined|1 What Capitalism is an efficient system at creating profit that has no regard for the greater good or public health Bad ideas for the good of the collective can be very good for profit price gouging on essentials is a topical one Monopolies would exist in an entirely free of government regulations market but Id hardly call that a free market the term itself is an oxymoron|1 Holy shit thats bad|0 I live in a fairly open gay community and even have a gay friend Im saying this just based on my observation that they give zero shits about the corona My friend was just out at bars making out with random guysSelfish as fuck|0 She didnt travel though which means its a community spread and it takes a whole lot more to contact trace theyre overloaded with contact tracing the current pending cases its a lot easier to tell everyone to stay home and if people follow that it will drastically help community spread and public health to put more effort into testing more people Its also a lot more likely that most people have regular cold symptoms rather than community spread at this point|1 Wow looks like a scene from Chernobyl|1 I hope essential travel will include visiting the allotment Hope I dont sound middle class|1 Yes I agree I guess my point was more directional in that the report says the infection appears localized Maybe the sample needs to be focused on extended families coworkers and neighbors of the confirmed cases I guess my idea is that maybe its time to invert the policy from only testing the seriously ill and instead test a bunch of possible infectees who are asymptomatic|1 I managed to get some a few weeks ago I have been wearing them out in public to buy goods I took off for the next 2 weeks from work to see where this thing heads People look at me like I have 3 fucking heads with the mask on Me I give no fucks Get used to it because I think we are going to be seeing a lot more people in masks over the next year Even IF masks dont prevent the virus being inhaled debatable it sure as hell prevents you from touching your face out in public|0 Well the key point in that whole story is going to college then starting a successful business not the tacobell I worked at Mcdonalds in HS and I dont think thats going to help me postgraduation|1 Acually Italy HAS NOT closed its bordersAirports and public transport are still operatingAt the borders there are health checks and can only be crossed if you are returning home for serious health or work reasonsThese three restrictions also apply to any transfer within and between regions|0 I am really hoping this gets answered For me its Losartan an ARB I think|1 If it will really take a vaccine to end thisthen our economy is in a bit of trouble for these next 18ish or whatever months|0 Its not speculation Its common knowledge that China filters out any news that would paint the country in a bad light I mean I would like to believe that this is true in light of recent events but the truth is that no news coming out of China can be taken without a grain of salt|1 Its worse than the flu by every measure More contagious higher mortality rate and lasts longer outside the body on surfaces|0 MA declares state of emergency as well|0 Its cause the President is a President that actually cares about his people The ones before him wouldnt have done this|1 Wow Im sure he hated having to do that|1 Also work in healthcare Doesnt seem like were taking it serious enough yet Doctors still telling patients that its being blown out of proportion and not to worryI understand not wanting to create panic but a laissez faire attitude sends the message that no preparation or precautions are necessary|0 yes but you also underestimate the spread in the general population most cases in italy probably spread from young people to old people we both agree that old and sick people must be protected the most but the difference between us is that you think letting the virus run its course on the rest of the population is advisable right now out of economic reasons i can assure you the economic downfall will be much worse if we do not do everything possible to prevent the rapid spread of the virus in the age groups that are not as vulnerable as these even if they do not die will still use up massive amounts of hospital beds and thus make it impossible to attend to older patients when the hospitals are overrun right now the only way to is to get more time and not overload the hospitals is to keep the new infections in ALL age groups to a minumum read about what the st louis health commissoner did 100 years ago httpswwwinfluenzaarchiveorgcitiescitystlouishtmlhttpswwwinfluenzaarchiveorgcitiescitystlouishtmland then compare it to philadelphia httpsqzcom1816060achartofthe1918spanishflushowswhysocialdistancingworkshttpsqzcom1816060achartofthe1918spanishflushowswhysocialdistancingworksthe economy will bounce back as it always does now human lives are more important as you cant buy them back and also i am 100 sure the economic impact will be much harder if the crisis is not handled diligently|1 wife and I have both worked in the restaurant industry and know how hard the work is and how soul crushing it can be We have no kids and decent income so it feels like the least we can do|0 True for many viruses most notably influenza But with Covid19 it is actually a viral pneumonia that decompensates into ARDS Not saying it cant be bacterial but thus far its being almost only reported as viral which is the reason youre not hearing about antibiotics being used Regardless the pneumonia isnt nececarilly the bad part its the ARDS and resulting cytokine storm Theres also indications that theres direct viral invasion of the myocardium with US intensivists reporting sudden dysrhythmiasarrhythmias such as vtachvfib and asystole usually after improvement in ARDS parameters Source Im an EM doc|1 Why are so many celebrities testing positive and announcing it on social media Can anyone provide a legitimate answer please|1 Certainly nobody is killing themselves by doing whipits|0 Lel yeah because China is definitely updating their numbers and telling the truth Thats why they have had 80k cases for the past 2 weeks|1 You honestly just need to keep your opinions to yourself If we can afford to spend as much as we budgeted for our wedding two fold we were over spending How do you not realize how fucking stupid that sounds We budgeted 10k and were barely able to stay under 11 Now were looking at losing all of that and then what pay for it again Guess we should have only planned for 5k which is impossible You dont know shit about peoples situations yet are so quick to make sweeping judgements You think we dont know if the health risks to our elderly family Why the hell do you think were even going through with canceling it Id suggest honestly shutting the fuck up about your opinions on this to everyone voicing their complaints We understand the threat we have canceled a day that was planned for over a year to be a special day for two people to celebrate their marriage with all their loved ones and we get to spend 10k for the pleasure of being able to have that ruined What a great way for a lower class family to spend that money|0 Boy you and me sure remember things differently like how other provinces had over 1000 infected and no deaths while in HK SK Taiwan had 1 and 2 deaths when they where in the hundreds weird that Or how Italy and Iran already had 50 dead by the first thousand Its like the virus doesnt kill in Shenzen only when it crosses the border or maybe just maybe the autocratic censoring CCP thats faking their GDP numbers and organ donor numbers is also faking Covid data at different rates depending on the regionEdit typos|0 At this point youre just outright lying The WHO isnt providing kits and you know it|0 Increasing ICU beds is not simple First you need the bed but next you need the careI mean a labor and delivery nurse or oncology nurse is not going to have the skills to manage a ventilator There might literally not be enough vital sign machines or telemetry monitors to dedicate to each patient There might not be enough sterile intubation kits to intubate the patients There might not be enough central line dressing supplies to administer the vasoactive drugs to keep you alive during sepsis There might not be enough specialty mattresses protective dressings or human muscle to turn these compromised patients frequently enough to prevent pressure injuries The list goes on and on|0 People are much more sexually conservative repressed in casual conversation because of shaming For instance swinging was moderately popular in the 60s and 70s in America but its not like they would tell their kids that|0 One of his greatest qualities is his mental stability He is a very stable genius|1 I believe China gave test kits to South Korea China is also helping Iran and Italy|1 If that was the case Pelosi would be in charge which would actually be reassuring|1 St Mattress LOL|1 I was going to say Italy has a real flu problem if thats normal|0 Whats more important right now Getting the airports shut or at least stopping the spread by checking travellersLets not pretend this is a partisan issue|1 Right here One of the first subs to this and coronavirus First 100 We tried to fucking tell em Nobody listened Just like I tried with global warming and all that but thats probably solved lol People bury their heads in the sand because theyre used to life the way its been We need EVOLUTION|1 I hate Islam so i really dont care|0 Ive been full lizard brain for god knows how long now|1 35 5621 00062 I havent seen that number and its very encouraging Do you have a link you can share to that data Id like to compare it with the US seasonal flu rates as its really not that different and depending on age ranges included maybe better which would be crazy good news|1 Also every moment we stop polluting we stop playing the giant game of chicken that is global dimmingLook it upHonestly man the only thing that can ensure our long term survival is if the economy crashes and even then its a Hail MaryWere faced with this choice lots of pain now but we get to have some semblance of a reasonable life at the cost of humanity going extinct in the next handful of generations Or we have lots of pain now and we wake the fuck up and deindustrialize causing even more short term pain but giving ourselves a shot at continued survivalYeah were fucked But just be aware that this is the choice you are making if youre rooting for the economy to keep going|0 Because it makes sense scientifically I can explain Im not an epidemiologist but Im a doctor and have a good understanding of virology and epidemiology if you are willing to read I can post the rationale|1 Im not sure maybe if you took the worst case city but overall it looks like its ranked 10th the only Euro countries higher ranked are Denmark Finland and Iceland Germany is 46th for examplehttpsepienvirocenteryaleeduepiindicatorreportAIR|1 Its all happy familys until shit hits the fan|1 Molest is also synonym for pesterharass although that usage has obviously declined significantly in favor of the sexual definition|0 I have heard conflicting info about this but how long can the droplets infect on a surface|0 OR its obvious a lot of them were just in immediate proximity with someone who is positive for i amd not just random people calling a hotline that are paranoid about a head cold its a massive organization with teams that travel every night and employees thousands of people and they literally have their own fucking doctors on the team doing the testing so chill outshould the people that were obviously just exposed and at risk not be tested to prevent the further spread because they are wealthy Does being wealthy make you not as important Your comment wouldnt have been made if this was a kitchen staff on a cruise ship getting tested but its the same shit Take your political bs elsewhere|0 You know shit hits the fan when the gov got everyone is sending canned responses|0 Where do you have information from that germany tests bettermore Living here i would actually say the exact opposite germany is still in we dont care mode Its actually quite hard to get tested without travel history or any severe simptoms|0 The govt is paying the SEC 602 EMERGENCY PAID LEAVE BENEFITS directly to the employee Where do you see that you have to pay anythinghttpsruleshousegovsitesdemocratsruleshousegovfilesBILLS116hr6201ihpdfhttpsruleshousegovsitesdemocratsruleshousegovfilesBILLS116hr6201ihpdf|0 offshore ships are pretty much the best you can hope for quarantine facilities Theres a reason such ships near london is what lead to modern quarantine protocols|1 The CCP can silence peoples voices but people are going to remember the lies for a long time and they cant so anything about that|0 we had 1 case in the past 2 weeksLol yeah you mean the one that creates the most uncertainty about the weight of this situation|1 Nope its completely legal You can read the text of the law yourself if you want Tenn Code Ann 47185101httpsadvancelexiscomdocumentpagepdmfid1000516cridf79da36386e84dc49f641dd3aab871b5config025054JABlOTJjNmIyNi0wYjI0LTRjZGEtYWE5ZC0zNGFhOWNhMjFlNDgKAFBvZENhdGFsb2cDFQ14bX2GfyBTaI9WcPX5pddocfullpath2fshared2fdocument2fstatuteslegislation2furn3acontentItem3a4X8KXB40R03JK1MB0000800pddocidurn3acontentItem3a4X8KXB40R03JK1MB0000800pdcontentcomponentid234179pdteaserkeysr0pditaballpodsecompkgw7kkkeargsr0prid71dc567999664eb8b628994f2ab54573|0 What Are you serious We are in Lombardy an hour ago they cordoned off the entire region Theres none on the streets its so scary I am panicking nobody knows where we will end up and you say the situation seems okIn France they are experiencing an escalating number of cases theres no stopping this plague|0 I would love any other tips if I can get them Should I be washing dishes any differently How often should I clean areas I use Right now we have Lysol wipes and bleach along with a few other things Ive never really really cleaned things before like this|1 I live right behind Kirkland Costco hearing a bunch of shit about it|0 Incredibly well done informative and easy to navigate Its laid out very well Thank you so much for this|1 Just In Time supply baby So efficient you dont even need an inventory room|1 Very true My mum works at 111has done 48 hours overtime the last fortnight and has heard it all Even the freemasons have infected me theyve been after me since the 70s because I hate nazisMeanwhile I waited 8 hours forca call back about my bzbys rash on saturday|0 Ha ha Same here SIL thought I was nuts Now calling asking what to buy Umm|1 Annnnd Im in the neighboring state of Connecticut Fuck|0 Good Trump thinks its just the flu and not really dangerous his supporters have chance to prove his point|1 Yay Yay Yay |1 How do you automate this particular test Im a microbiology lab automation field engineer Im of the understanding that one way of testing is RNA and another is CAT scan by looking for a very specific growth pattern How do you automate the RNA test Growing it in agar would literally be farming it|1 I still think that community spreading is rather low in AustraliaIts happening in Sydney already Italy and Iran were hotspots last week Now were looking at UK Germany etc|0 Exactly Fortunately it seems to be that we seem to be sort of groggily awakening from slumber and at least aware that the race is on We have a lot of talent and resources Our leadership really needs to step up to the plate|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil responsePlease contact us if we made a mistake|0 What specific community actions do you think need to be taken to slow the spread and mitigate the pressure on hospitalsThere are differing opinions on aerosol vs droplet spread which of course changes the equation of what kind of nonmedical interventions are necessary What specific measures should individuals take beyond wash your hands which Im getting quite tired of hearing to be honestThank you|0 Selfish Some of us work for such horrible companies that 1 We cant afford to miss more than one day of work because we live paycheck to paycheck 2 Our employers threaten to suspend or fire us if we dont come into work when sick or dock our pay unless we dish 500 to get a doctors notice which puts us back one day of work AND the money for the doctor 3 Paid sick days What the fuck is thatNot everyone has it easy financially People dont want to go to work when sick EVER The system is the problem not the people forced to work|0 First off I know it doesnt feel likeIt it probably feels like a routine job for you but you guys are the worlds living angels and lifeline Nobody makes more of an impact on peoples lives than you guys do No matter how rough or bad it gets thats something nobody can take from you or argueI really hope the fed govt stops fucking this up and putting the load on you guys cause honestly I expected we had another month or two before we would hit that point at hospitals Its disheartening Im sure but you guys will pull through Stay as safe as you can and remember if it really gets to the point you cant take it we live in an at will kinda place I hope you dont have to walk out but take care of you and your family first|1 This is exactly why the USgovernment announced the travel ban for China Beijing simply cannot be trusted Other countries better wise up We need a planet wide ban on Chinese travelers|0 It would be hard to compute the dollar value of avoiding this disease I think He made a smart call|1 Yep Kids definatley need their parents Years ago everyone survived on one persons wage Nowdays cant survive on 2 They got women working to pay tax to them and make out its all pro choice|1 Gotta keep sucking that commie cock or else theyll throw a tantrum|0 Wait Why are the people who assist the cooks and bus drivers heroes How about the flipping cooks and bus drivers Theyre the damn heroes not their temp assistants|1 Agreed As long as there are no lockdowns people still dont seem to get it Draconian measures are needed for people to truly see how bad the situation really is|0 Yeah they dont need to plan they just need to walk out|1 httpsenwikipediaorgwikiPhasesofclinicalresearchhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPhasesofclinicalresearch Phase 1 is usually a few months long to test for medium term resultsPhase 24 can be yearsIf it looks like it works theyll skip ahead due to necessity do some trials on humans at a small scale then IF that works and doesnt have complications VIPs and first line medical workers will be the first to get the vaccine then itll spread to at risk group and out from there httpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresourcesnationalstrategyplanningguidancepandemicseveritiestier1htmlhttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresourcesnationalstrategyplanningguidancepandemicseveritiestier1html|1 If the young people dont know they have it then it is more likely to spread and then affect the older people We also need to know the numbers to be able to actually gauge how infectious and deadly the disease is The government needs more tests not to hoard them for only special cases|1 Meals Ready to Eat|1 Maybe you cant live with your parents Their risk level is quite different from yours|0 Im at home due to health issues which make my body stress the fuck out Trying to keep it in check but its not really working|0 Fuck jeff|0 You liked it when your parents or those of your friends were at risk|1 I have heard that as well for a few of the facilities in the area Im sure its here|1 Ok well whatever Im a nurse I use it all the time It is one of the vital signs Ive dealt with countless people having asthma attacks COPD exacerbations CHF exacerbations pulmonary embolism MI CVA etc Its definitely part of your assessment The doctors always ask whats their O2 sat|1 As others have said you can wear a mask because youre immunocompromised maybe someone with Leukemia or had an organ transplant It really should be illegal to cough at people You could be unknowingly sick and litterally kill someoneIf it happens again op just tell people you have cancer and even a cold could kill you Perphaps that will shut them up|0 Preach it Ass Blaster|0 Another good question|1 He will not and I cannot blame him He can do more outside politics Politics turns people into bad persons because you cannot survive in that environment by being good Bill has shown that he could undoubtedly survive in that environment and crush his opponents and he would certainly win He can be ruthless But that is not his life goalAfter building one of the largest and most important companies in the world he wants his legacy to be about charity and development Not political circus|1 are you suggesting that Trump is not an acceleration of shit load of negative trendsDrone warfare and the general growth of the military industrial complex has continued under Trump the way Trump has waged the trade war has been asinine and shortsighted farmer bailouts bigger than the auto bailouts I mean come on Trump is all the things that were wrong the establishment but much worseAlso the idea that establishment Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same is equally crazy They are very very similar and both run by corporate elites but establishment Democrats arent stacking the courts with activist judges who will forever strike down progressive policies a previous point that you conveniently ignored|0 It appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the SARSCoV2 andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected We here at rCOVID19 recommend following the guidelines and advice given by trusted sources Your local health officials the World Health Organization and others have been actively monitoring the situation and providing guidance to the public about itSome resources which may be applicable to your situation are as follows The World Health Organization website which has regularly updated situation reports travel advice and advice to the public on protecting yourself from infectionshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019 The CDC USA website which provides Risk assessments Travel advice and FAQs relating to the 2019 nCoV outbreakhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml The UKs Department of Health and Social Cares guidance to the publichttpswwwgovukguidancewuhannovelcoronavirusinformationforthepublicIf you believe you may have symptoms of the Novel Coronavirus or feel you may have been exposed to the virus speak to a doctor andor contact your local health officials for further guidanceFollow the advice of users in this post at your own risk Any advice that exceeds the recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts|1 please see update|1 The only place Ive really seen people is at the grocery store Other parking lots are pretty empty|1 Looks like trials and studies may be done on it at the University of Minnesota Here is the article httpmstartribunecomuniversityofminnesotatotestthreedrugsforcovidpatients568766632|1 If they really wanted to do it they could invoke the Civil Contingencies Act The Government can make regulations without Parliament in an emergency that being an event or situation which threatens serious damage to human welfare in the United Kingdom which involves causes or may cause loss of human life or human illness or injury or other outcomeshttpwwwlegislationgovukukpga200436part2|0 Im a bot bleep bloop Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit rcoronavirususa rCoronaVirus Newly Completed Genomic study strongly suggests that there has been cryptic undetected transmission in Washington State for the past 6 weekshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaVirusUSAcommentsfbpcs1rcoronavirusnewlycompletedgenomicstudynbspIf you follow any of the above links please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads InforTotesMessenger ContactmessagecomposetorTotesMessenger|1 Comedian is a complicated profession|1 Thank you for all you are doing|1 Your friends are idiots and you should find some new friends|1 Depends on the true number of asymptomatics Reports are coming out that it is much higher than previously thought If that is so then the death rate goes downBut with the current death rate we are looking at 250M deaths over the next two years globally It also depends on what the second wave will look like and whether immunity will develop once people have had it once SARS back in 2003 did not leave antibodies in peoples blood for very long after recovery which is not good news at all|0 Why not fuck almost allall governments|1 Well 02 for those under 30 is actually much much higher than the death rate of the flu and colds about 20 times higher|0 Im in Portland Oregon and the city has just announced police will only respond to life threatening calls Things are going To get crazy|0 You are assuming Chinese factory workers have up to 2 weeks savings when most of the western world lives paycheck to paycheckAlso Im not asking if we are there yet I am asking what are the provisions the CCP would put in place to help these people|1 you can get systems to make your well water drinkable|1 Right lol|1 No not at all|0 We know that but that isnt reflected in the official narrative and thats OPs entire point the number of infections is a lot higher than the official stats and has been for some time|1 Thanks uApexPredatour Microbiology and Virology PhD|1 Especially since our sick policy is absolute garbage I had to be saved by the only manager with a heart when I got sick the other week The rest would have fired me Like sorry for owning a body I bet my store doesnt adopt this policy for some reason|0 More like 30x in size|1 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 WB mason is completely out of stock So is staples I was looking for work about 3 weeks ago Feel like I got the last two cases|1 Good thing only 5 million people left Wuhan before the quarantine|1 In shanghai chinagovernment has provided free masks for all people for 40 days|1 At least this is a decent song lolThis has tickled me Thank you |1 They are incompetent Thats why|0 My local park is where Jodie Chesney got murdered I take your point though|0 I believe you and I believe Disney sucks ass big time bro Greedy money grabbing fucks|0 Oh no really What are your symptoms Im so sorry|0 Reddit is a hangout comprised mostly of Liberals and Democrats And these people operate purely on emotion and outrage not logic|0 They know what they are doing Be prepared for extended vacationsit could still happen STAY HOME IF YOU ARE SICKThere is no known cure so youll need to just suffer through it You will get better Just stay away from other people so you dont contribute to the spread|0 Oh god my boyfriend got back from NYNJ Friday and is supposed to go again this week for business that hes saying is essential Im in Toronto and its not much better here but travelling somewhere without being set up to live there is so risky IMO Ugh Hes educated on this virus and still doesnt see the risk to himself or anyone else |0 rwallstreetbets each saw a ninefold increase in views oh god there are gonna be so many suicides soon|1 Do you really want to take the risk And its more than about you getting sick You can be a carrier and infect others|0 Not really a plot twist I see the twitterati out in force oh no not Tom please And earlier that serie A player now not so much support for him as pls not RonaldoThis is why I hate the world yes some people have accomplished great things but we are all humans and in that regard all equal Social media is perpetuating some lives over others Its sick|0 Kind of disappointed with the rampant speculation and paranoia in a sub dedicated to scientific discussion|0 this is getting bad already|0 Really fascinating They dont say in the article how long the antibody protection would work A day A week A month Presumably youd have to keep getting shot up with the coding strands repeatedly to sustain the antibody protectionIts pretty crazy one of the lead scientists has already had the coronavirus and hasnt been tested|1 A fuck tonBut yeah that harvard guy said 40 to 70 percent adult pop|0 Tragically ICU Intensive Care Unavailable |0 The info is second hand so Im afraid I dont know much It should be taken as a this is a risk My understanding is he is in Spain and hasnt been allowed to fly back as opposed to being sent on a plane back|1 Aged like fine wine|1 im sure hes involved in the making of it|1 So Im a trump supporter because I speak and write proper English Thats the dumbest shit Ive read all month Thanks for the laugh ESL guy|1 Its not very difficult to learn|1 judging from the number of total cases i would guess the first one with 41 patients|1 Hard to tell without reading the full text but it would be interesting if they cover the fact that older societies are simply wealthier than younger onesMost conflict is socioeconomic in nature|1 Some corrections Its not written by but from a poem by Nagaya a Japanese prince The poem was embroidered on Buddha gowns that were sent by Japanese to China back then as a sign of friendliness Buddhism was introduced to Japan through Korea long before reached there|1 Yes also it probably killed more like 100 million not 50 million We will see what happens but its too late to contain it and people are not taking it seriously|1 I think you would be better washing your hands and using dettol on surfaces|1 Same Sister has a cough Brother has a cough Dad has a cough I have a cough What do I do Call HR Ask for time off What if if they give me time off and I dont get sick Then what if I go back and I really do get sick are they going to give me time off Paid What if all of those and then my wife gets sick and I need time off to take care of her Or maybe its just all in my head or maybe Im just getting sick|1 This is not true you should REALLY read the article before spreading fake news which is off topic and not allowed in this sub Leave the Trump bashing fake news to rpolitics this sub isnt about politics Also from the article you didnt read x200BLegum statedhttpstwittercomJuddLegumstatus1232051346796371968 in a followup tweet that Trump also cut funding for the CDC forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectiousdisease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018 Among the countries abandoned China That was partly true according to 2018 news reportshttpswebarchiveorgweb20200206210123httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180201cdctocutby80percenteffortstopreventglobaldiseaseoutbreak stating that funding for the CDCs global disease outbreak prevention efforts had been reduced by 80 including funding for the agencys efforts in China But that was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding not a direct cut by the Trump administrationSo its not even partially true as they try to say its literally a depletion of funding already anticipated not anything Trump did yet snipes is happy to do newspeak straight out of 1984 to convince people like you to parrot their lies|0 My dad just called me to tell me he cancelled the trip he had booked for next week because of the outbreak thats happening and I cannot be more happy Especially since he was supposed to go to Europe and we just got our first confirmed case in the country He has started prepping too|0 Wow its almost like theyre treating it like its a threat|1 Massive inflation No waywhat makes you think they print the money|0 Average Americans cant even get their hands on a test Wonder how hard theyre going to make it for us when a vaccine finally comes out|0 Wtf if you voted for this shit funnel rethink your choices This is crazy|0 Its OK our chief medical officer says were well prepared with 12 beds in the national isolation unit and 6 of them are negative pressure ventilatedAnd were so efficient that most days the ICU in one of the hospitals caters for an additional 2 patients over capacityIm guessing if we start timesharing out the beds we could become even more efficient|1 You just dont have to pay it until June|1 Thorough hand washing with soap is key Stay out of crowds and dont touch your face before washing your hands I dont know if masks are effective but they may help keep you from touching your face as would gloves Id also stop eating out|1 still better than doing nothing we are letting the virus win|1 True take but assholes gonna asshole Im gonna do what I can|0 Ahh yes the please remember to vote republican tax checks Totally forgot about those Still wont happen this is a whole different republican party|1 There is no longer any confusion about this Anyone who tells you otherwise is doing so to prevent war|0 It was updated fairly quickly after 1030am as opposed to the usual 11am so Im wondering if there are a lot more pending that will be announced this afternoon Could also explain why theres no Toronto or Ottawa cases|0 Thinks If I look at this guys comment history it is going to be chock full of white supremacyCheckshttpsoldredditcomrDebateAltRightcommentseu3sm0putinisgoingtogive350000rublesforaffmihdn People LOVE to subvert and counter signal Putin as being a zog puppet but look at his actions He incentivizes white kids defends Christianity goes on the record to say Europe is becoming a non white European country and he is the only one who geopolitically challenges zog Look at syria for examplehttpsoldredditcomrTheRightCantMemecommentsep2zmiironicfelmaf3 I have respect for white people They built my society and the best cultures and nations on earth What have blacks done besides try to get back at whites and complain about being considered dumb uncivilized and ugly AND STINKY httpsoldredditcomrTheRightCantMemecommentsemqi0tantisemitismfdsq7ed idk if youre white or not but if you are the only reason you like Mexicans is because you know its virtuous to shill on their behalf Literally trying to reverse years of stigma that they earned themselves for the sake of looking good You should stop taking white people for granted cuntYeah figured as much|1 Oh theyre more than capable dont you worry They allowed a man out of quarantine in the US with Ebola who still had it and tested positive months later after the CDC called him cured Its sheer luck they havent killed us all via their incompetence|1 Quick shoutout to rCOVID19 if you like science|1 Everything you say is correct but l think its also important right now to be mindful of how people who are less well informed will read headlines The press are only interested in that outbreak because of the Wuhan situation To the layperson the headline says Theres going to be a bird flu pandemic too rather than common event involving an entirely different type of virus happens close to where a coronoavirus outbreak is happening Wellprepared poultry industry has it coveredIf its not sensationalisngscaremongering what other reason does it have for being on a coronoavirus virus sub Theres been a lot of deliberate scaremongering on the other coronoavirus subs Lets try to avoid it as much as possible here|1 Considering they had fevers and were lower it with medication as mentioned in many comments above Yeh it would be embarrassing to human scum|0 Not if you got a huge cock|1 Shoot I got a 4 can I bend luck on that|1 Apparently he declared the public health emergency after 20 cases This gives more details httpswwwsnopescomfactcheckobamawaitswineflun1h1|0 And you dont get it Getting the flu wont make you immune to this disease it will make you more susceptible If people are not taking steps to avoid the flu they are not going to be taking steps to avoid this virus So it makes sense to educate the public on avoiding all communicable diseases regardless if it is the flu or corona virus Right nowBy telling people not to worry unless there are confirmed cases in their area you are creating behaviors which will spread the disease Instead we should be telling the public to take communicable diseases seriously If they have contracted the flu they could also contact this virus if it too becomes widespread|0 True Selfish people like these eg the crazy ajumma in South Korea who refused to be tested twice and was on a holiday spree should be put behind bars They are a blot to society and humanity|1 Brilliant question at 11101 That steroid is killing people2 Cytokine storm killing people|0 Please upvote this post this would be very helpful for communities need to self report|1 I wonder if this is the marathon runner in his 30s that was in critical condition The link doesnt seem to provide any info|0 It took the genome of the human species 8 million years to evolve by 1 Many animal RNA viruses can evolve by more than 1 in a matter of days httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMp2002106|1 I started about a month ago I got the brush off I also told them the stock market was going to take a nosedive They started to listen after it did I still have a few who have not prepared anything and think this is going to pass No matter what info I have given them they are deep in denial I have some provisions for them when they come asking I know its just a matter of time|0 Yeah a lot of people are of the opinion that the Swedish government massively overreacted during the swineflu so I think thats the reason as to why the general public doesnt really seem to be worried so far here|0 I think this is absolutely right its not on TV so it must be not important|0 The American dream laid bare for all to see|1 Whats a convincing argument that people should be afraidLets say I randomly look at numbers see that Wuhan virus is totally insignificant compared to regular flu and conclude that its nothing to be worried about How would you convince me of the opposite|0 God forbid you tell them to stick up a bit on food and water|0 Yes the point is OP doesnt know the difference|1 I think its pretty clear that the reason why is that people have lives to live Its very difficult for the average person to suddenly call time out and disappear for two weeks They think they might be infected so they want to be tested to quickly find out what they need to do If they do have the virus at least they have a reason for disrupting their lives and breaking commitments If they cant get tested because no one is willing to test them thats not a good enough reason for most people to shut down their lives for two weeks I think I might be infected isnt going to pay bills or complete other life commitments|0 Masks dont work but dont buy them because healthcare workers need them Huh If they dont work then why do healthcare workers need them Why isnt anyone asking this question Honestly healthcare workers need them more because they have the potential to spread the virus and also have the potential to contract the virus way more then your average joe Seriously masks should be reserved for healthcare workers gas station clerks grocery clerks bus and taxi drivers and anyone that provides a basic human necessity|1 That doesnt seem to be how people are taking itYes in particular the stupid selfish people arent paying attention to government direction Fines will probably be next once test results show a problem that is 10X what the current figures indicate|0 Nothing is free|0 That is an unnerving part of this bill yes If you can make sure you pay in to any matched amount 401k your employer allows Its usually the best investment to payout option people get since it doubles your money as soon as it vestsFor what its worth this clause exists though NO EFFECT ON ELIGIBILITY FOR SSIAny 18 benefit paid to an individual under this title shall not be 19 regarded as income or resources for any month for pur20 poses of determining the eligibility of the recipient or the 21 recipients spouse or family for benefits or assistance or 22 the amount or extent of benefits or assistance under the 23 Supplemental Security Income program|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 Assuming the severe case rate was as lopsided as the death rate|0 Some bars here have closed cafes too to prevent just this level of fuckery weve been seeing all over Ideally it would just be nice if people had a lick of sense and werent gibbering idiots Wouldnt that be lovely Personal responsibilityToo much to ask though|1 the practice is in use because without it we would simply have a case of half the time the people in emergencies simply die due to no doctor being around|0 Get some from the WHO they gotta be good for somethingThats cute They are useless|1 Patient zero in Wuhan showed symptoms back in Dec 8th And maybe it was even before then Chaos didnt really start in Wuhan until mid JanFirst patiet showed up in Washington around Jan 25th so if nothing happens by mid march Ill breathe a sigh of reliefThe latency period for this just might be a long time if it has oneOr the first few gens maybe a dozen or two have dealt with this under everyones radar After all we have one death from nCoV Wasnt diagnosed until post mortem right Im betting its thisOr whats went through Wuhan Iran and now Italy is a more virulent strain perhaps Time will tell|0 That sucks My brother in law thinks it is fake and this whole scam was manufactured by china to crash our economy hes having his first baby next month It will be interesting to see if his view changes when hes in a packed hospital|0 Thank you|1 Also nearby my city Trieste there is a huge carnival where thousands and thousands of youngsters hang out drinking usually from the same bottle It happened in the middle of the crisis in Northern Italy and I still wonder how none of them got sick|0 Yes thats true There could be a lot more mild cases that arent registering With that cruise ship did they take into consideration enough time after most people got sick Bc thats a factor as well For example 100 people that get sick with the virus and taking the death and ICU stats a week after infection will look very different than 100 people that get sick and taking the death and ICU stats 4 weeks afterRegardless the 5 min ICU is still a huge number if most people get the infection|0 Those who stay home are the ones whos genetics pass on to the new world Darwinism Its well beyond the point of social responsibility This has become about making sure you and your family come out the other side of this Theres no merits in being a SJW complaining wanting things done for you Youre either smart enough to get through this or you are not Things are different now Get on board of suffer the consequences|1 Hes probably safely socially distancing himself like all the other sane people right now|1 Absolutely correct but the idiots wont abide Were in for a fun year Protect yourself|1 It will be worse because FREEDOM|1 Yeah But for mortality rate do you refer to the population with the illness or the broader pop If the latter that doesnt seem so useful|1 I am confused by the math in play here we have raw numbers of infected and raw numbers of fatalities how is this a guessing game Also like the flu the fatality rates change drastically by age group and existing conditions under 40 the rate is less then 1 from what I have read maybe that has changed but this seems pretty simple100000 cases with 10000 deaths would be 10 thats not what we currently have so how is the rate higher|0 My goddamn mother sister and nephew are traveling to Austin TX to visit another nephew who is in the army because they want to see him before he goes for a month of training and cant be contacted I pointed out that my mom is in the prime category for this being fatal if she contracts it and she said well I want to see him before his birthday Well so hell see you before his birthday and then potentially never again because you got coronavirus and kicked it at 70 Good choice|0 Yes Its way more interesting than any movie or TV show out right now|1 Wind blowing infected person sneezes a dozen people downwind are now infected|0 when the US realizes the seriousness of itSchools closed across several states yesterday Im off work for at least the rest of the month I think were starting to see the seriousness of it|0 Job 2 How to double our respirator supply and why lockdowns school closings may hurt more than help PostIm not sure I follow here your argument against lockdowns and school closures is that things are complicated and it might cause more problems but you cant give any examplesSchool closures look pretty promisinghttpstwittercomNAChristakisstatus1235204443362205699 for many reasons but they are likely to be more effective for COVID19 because so many kids are looking to be asymptomatic carriers If this is the case then closing schools will shut down a huge silent transmission channel|1 I agree with you 100|1 more infectiuos Longer incubation period Transmissable during incubation period Transmissable while asymptomic also applies to flu Hard to detect early because symptoms match that of flu and therefore most people wont seem professional attention Confirmed H2H transmission on more than one continent Current containment has clearly failed|0 We have idiot tourists coming into Portland OR right now complaining about restaurants and bars closingHey folks there is a reason the tickets are cheap now|0 I cant control myself enough to use that little addict also I had a big ass volcano vape and went through at least an eighth a day|0 From what I understand we dont develop immunity Or its mutating But people are getting reinfected First in China and today confirmed in JapanEDIT you can stop downvoting I have been corrected Maybe dont hide as its a relevant question and people who also misunderstood will see it and the appropriate responses below|0 Fun fact He pays people in exact change as too not get any back when at a fast food place|1 I continue to hear mixed advice on the use of masks Some outlets have recommended against using them Others say it can reduce my chances of getting COVID19What is the complete answer about masks and COVID19|1 I cant imagine being pregnant during this Management came in today and said they would be making more changes so Im hoping things will be different Monday|1 I doubt that Thats wayyy too high bud|0 Exactly The more states that see how effective it is the more likely they will also implement it This has definitely reduced my anxiety a lot|1 Its actually safe to go outside if you arent known to be infected Even when Im quarantined which for me will be likely based on my occupation I believe I will be able to go for an early morning jog staying a few meters away from other people depending on current advice|0 Likely just from shear numbers infected But there are also people who have antibodies to common strains from having it before The percentage of cases requiring hospitalization or intensive care have also been higher thus far for COVID 19 But that number would likely go down if testing was more widespread|0 Thanks Maybe thats whats throwing me off I looked a couple months ago and actual listings called nebulizers popped up Now everything that shows up looks like a weird humidifier My doctor gave me albuterol but my insurance never sent the nebulizer I was supposed to get Definitely want one now|1 Yes but at least you can get the vaccine depending|1 Scary shit Weirdest thing is my friend who goes to college in Westchester County has not had her classes canceled yet Im really worried about her|0 Teacher here Right now Im getting paid but who knows what will happen with school budgetsstaffing making up exams and other aspects of the rest of the year is cancelled Ill happily take 1000 over nothing Hopefully it gets done with all the uncertainty in every sector|0 Its very likely on the 14th day of the quarantine he would have tested positive|1 And OP will never work as a nurse again and probably have tens of thousands in student loan debt for a degree they cant use|0 True cmon its not NK lmao|0 I mean thats exactly what she should be doing under those conditions 100 degrees isnt life threatening especially for a grown adult Theres nothing doctors could do for her but tell her to go home selfisolate and come back if breathing gets difficult and she needs a respirator|0 Oh my gosh whatever will we do without our entertainers|0 Could you please go back to watching Maddow|1 I would not trust distilled water if it picks up anything that was left behind by previous washes or even dust youll lose that osmotic pressure|0 I prefer free market solutions here If people are buying at outrageous prices a new entrant will come in QUICKLY and drive prices down Its the most efficient way of getting more supply to the market|1 Right Im happy theres a dance and everything|1 Good point Im surprised too|1 Agreed|1 lol Just sharing the love|1 My parents are not ready They still are not buying groceries online they live with my 83 year old grandma I expect my grandma and maybe my parents wont survive this They are both overweight and have health conditions Fuck them for being children Jesus Christ Im angry Ive been telling then since January to get ready Fuck|0 Only one upvote because I cant give 100 Virtual hi five I dont want death but an overall drop in the number of stupid assholes would be greatly appreciated|0 Speaking about the US but we live in a for profit health care system People should be able to capitalize on events that affect public health in this type of system Its just business right If anything now is the time for the medical equipment manufacturers to come the fuck up wOOt wOOt bling bling American dream dream chaching|1 right this is what I think There arent even enough masks for everyone but we have enough of some brand new test to go around testing every person who sneezes theres just no way|0 The UK hasnt even shut schools businesses or universities let alone pubs concerts sports games or nightclubs|0 Birth control is for yourself Mask has never been to protect yourself alone against virus its to protect othershttpsmedlineplusgovcoronavirusinfectionshtmlyou can still get infected but you cant spread to others directly when coughing for example you can still spread it by touching surface The only way to protect one single person against the virus is the full PPE medical equipment with N95 gloves glass etc you need someone to help you wear it In the perfect world everyone got a effective mask surgical maskN95 and knows how to use it In reality there isnt even mask for 1 of the world population and 99 99 of the people doesnt know how to properly use a mask like not taking it off with unwashed hand just to drink Random cotton mask are completely useless against the virus itself but are still useful because it reduce the frequency you touch your face and give people a sense of false security to avoid mass panic The best solutions to slow the spreading are still clean hygiene knowledges about the virus and containing measures|1 Nah that falls under Household Essentials|0 Good|1 Thanks for the in depth reply Yes hopefully the amount of mild cases is even higher than we realize because overall that would be a good thing I guess we will see in a few weeks how South Koreas situation evolves and get a better picture because of their broad testing My main worry is the lack of testing in the US and this spreading before we can really implement a quarantine that is impactful enough while not running out of food|1 Too bad the experts like Fauci say otherwise Plus all the people still packing Florida spreading it around despite the heat|0 Here there is none left anyways Any new distribution if the government cares could just funnel them to hospitals and other supposed more needed places straight from middlemen Just dont send anymore to retail|1 That makes sense Its really really crazy for the store employees This will give them a break to restock and also clean things up I think its reasonable until we get past this|0 Not the exact line but I had to say this to my parents both 60yo My father is part of the crowd that is downplaying CoViD19 and my mother is very worried about cancelling her travel plans for this year as if a pandemic cares about anyones schedule I had to tell them that the virus kills the most from their age group|0 All victims of the media here Remember they know negativity spreads quickly means more views The media will be the only economy to prosper in this|0 Wonder what the rest of his career will look like after all of this|1 Went through LAX from Thailand via Taiwan No screening at all Very disappointing I had hand sanitizer but they are not even providing it at the automated passport stations that everyone is touching|0 Its not the spicesIts the fact that Taco Bell will have more fiber than many people naturally include in their diet AND its greasyGrease Fiber Efficiency Boost to the Ol Poop Chute|1 They are definitely the dominant one around here Have they rolled their tests out yet How would I find out Were trying to find out when testing will pick up in the area|1 I hope u get all all the food and help u need Its a shit situation to be in and u didnt do anything to bring this on Fuck the uneducated morons who are going to tar you all with the same brush what the fuck do they know anyway Probably never stepped foot in a China in their lives|0 does your hospital have an ebola protocol state health depts and hospitals will probably have to step it up since the white house is trying to shackle the NIH and CDC i wish you luck friend i think were all in this for the long haul|1 absolutely but closing down factories would just worsen the economic crisis thats ahead of Italy and honestly the whole world thb|0 A week is ok two weeks is good a month is better three months is great and a year is fantastic Buy more if you can but dont panic if you cant Stock up on things that wont go bad like rice beans peanuts dried oatmeal frozen fruit and vegetables plus enough fresh food to last you through the immediate future Eat the fresh food first then dip into your supplies as a last resort|1 I feel as though its the big gamble option It is tricky whilst I can see the logic of their approach I still think its a huge gamble with peoples lives But perhaps a good one to take ultimately if huge loss of life is unavoidable I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE|1 yes and theyre having success with these thingshttpenpeoplecnn320200307c900009665722htmlhttpenpeoplecnn320200307c900009665722html|1 Ah yeah the classic if youre such a socialist how come you have an iPhone|1 Lets look at the dataIn one of the biggest studies I could find 67 cases over 557 are severe in aged between 15 and 49httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020620020974v1Thats 12 of young adults having severe complications That is only a few points off from the overall average of 1516 of severe cases Very mild protection in young adults Also 557 young adults were confirmed out of 1099 cases Can you offer a source that suggests a better outcome for young people|0 Dumb accusations|0 Thank you for your service Stay safe and keep sharing what you know In time more and more people are going to take you seriously I suspect|1 How effective is that I just went and checked a drain I last sealed two years ago and its still fine Will kitchen oils doI would advise against it Kitchen oils become rancid and sticky with time You can get mineral oil for cheap at the pharmacy|1 All good advice but instead of the liein idea Ive always found that getting an early start works wonders I have a job that allows me to work any hours I choose and I frequently get up at 5am start after 1 coffee and Im done by 1pm Even getting up at 9am tends to lead to procrastination and low efficiency for me|1 What if Trump colluded with the Chinese to release the virus to cause this panic Then he could implement a mailinballot system nationally so he could easily rig the election He would be able to print up a bunch of counterfeit ballots and mail them in|0 okay this is the best comment ive seen on this sub have a poor mans gold |1 good idea keep talking|1 Also heard there will be central neve damage Some recovered patient can only walk very slowly not able to jump The virus was found in faeces urine and even penis Some scientist suspects it might damage mens fertility Got these from Chinese newsJust read this article patients are able to shed virus from 837 daysVery informative paper records symptoms and changes of survived and nonsurvived patients hospitalised Dec Jan Also very concerning httpswwwthelancetcompbassetsLancetpdfsS014067362305663pdfhttpswwwthelancetcompbassetsLancetpdfsS014067362305663pdfCovid19 is really a supervirus asymptomatic infection long incubation period highly contagious long treatment period multiple false negatives even after treatment and possible long term damageOne online thread mentioned that the virus is probably not targeting our lung but targeting our entire body Lung is probably the most discoverable organ in terms of illness we need it to breathe and other organs probably can repair itself somehow I dont have enough knowledge in physiology here This assumption might explain why people with chronic disease are more susceptible to this virus|0 I think anti il6 and especially JAKinibs will be better than anti tnf|0 34 mortality rate not good not bad|0 Today is the first day I really felt overwhelmed with fear when that CDC guidance of 50 people ban came out that made it real|0 How was it an ethical problem|1 One surefire way to keep the number of confirmed cases low is to make sure nobody can be tested I wouldnt put it past them to be using this as an actual strategy|1 Why is China Trying To Blame USA All Fingers Point At Wuhan Chinahttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoi101002jmv25751utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfhttpsjviasmorgcontent8241899utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmfAll Chinese Scientist mixing Carp and Bat Genomes that introduce yes Corona Virus Aka HIV SARSIdentification of Coronavirus Sequences in Carp cDNA from Wuhan ChinaJournal of Medical Virology published March 11If confirmed with other research it suggests SARS2 might be a product of genetic engineering Bats and carp dont consort that much in nature This is being low key censored because it would make the public go ape shitEDIT to add the following excerptSARSCoV2 were identified in two separate cDNA pools The first pool was from a Carassius auratus crusian carp cell line and the second was from Ctenopharyngodon idellagrass carp head kidney tissue 6 7Turns out both these samples to the database were submitted from WuhanSo lets examine some of the coincidences so far a new bat derived coronavirus appears in a market close to the only lab in China known to be working with bat derived corona viruses the new virus has a bizarre genetic overlap with the carp genome the carp genome was submitted by researchers working out of Wuhan the new virus has slight but functionally important genetic similarities to HIV not a smoking gun but the only coronavirus with said mutation but wait no there is one in nature with this mutation published Jan 20 after the outbreak started from researchers working out of you guessed it WuhanI wont explicitly say it because people get banned and censored for doing so and more importantly these days I am happy if I can simply get my aged mother and people like her to avoid gatherings and wear a mask I dont want to distance myself further from the mainstream narration There isnt too much to be gained focusing on the origin at this point That will need to come later though We want to deal with this in a way that doesnt devolve into letting nukes flyPosting this from somewhere else Not my original comment|1 What a harrowing account Thank you for sharing It helps to mentally prepare for this virus and know what to watch out for I hope your test comes back negative|1 Seems reasonable though They arent going to lock you in your house but they arent going to give you a reason to leave it either|0 Here I am sitting in my gloves and mask which Ive been told to take off numerous times but they shall not take that from me This worries me more than the teacher regurgitating the same crap that the UK government spouts dailyThey are infringing on your rights there Resist|0 Korea had no other choice Their hospitals wouldnt have a chance if it got out of control NYC will be like northern Italy next week|0 Get someone to listen to their exhusband too Glad you got it to work out|1 I mean maybe some good can come of this if corporations start getting paranoid about having all their manufacturing concentrated in a single fragile country that is constantly exposed to wildfire pathogens Maybe we can bring some of our manufacturing jobs back to our own countries and the higherpaying jobs that come along with it The only people who lose in that case would be the corporations and their endless profitsHeaven forbid they have to make slightly less profit|0 Even more so testing is potentially dangerous Someone with symptoms not serious enough to be hospitalized who gets in their car and comes to a doctors office or hospital to get checked puts others at risk of catching the virus Simply put if youre not sick enough to be hospitalized stay home and stay away from others if you are worried you have it|0 My brother and his wife and three kids are still planning to go through with the Disney vacation next week theyve had booked I just hope that everything gets shut down before then or they see the reality of whats going onEdited to change month to week I read her text wrong|0 Only fire can solve this|0 Yep Thats the joke|1 New Orleans has the highest number of cases per capita right now It may help in a month or two when it gets hotter but right now were fucked like everyone else|0 As a prop Shes infected now|0 Forget the downvotes Its trivial Be patient Inform what you know in a well composed 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positiveshttpwwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVEhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVE1httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfj1g96fkldfbmcontext10fkldfbm httpwwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVEIm a bot working hard to help Redditors find related videos to watch Ill keep this updated as long as I canPlay Allhttpsubtletvcomrfj1g96featureplaylistftrlnk1 InfohttpsnpredditcomrSubtleTVwikimentionedvideos Get me on Chromehttpschromegooglecomwebstoredetailmentionedvideosforreddfiimkmdalmgffhibfdjnhljpnigcmohf FirefoxhttpsaddonsmozillaorgenUSfirefoxaddonmentionedvideosforreddit|0 I think that was from diamond princess which is counted separately|1 This one spreads easier because it can spread before symptoms appear andor right when symptoms appear SARS is contagious days after symptoms There are 4 coronavirus strains that are considered colds One strain can be different than the next httpswwwbloombergcomopinionarticles20200305howbadisthecoronavirusletscomparewithsarsebolaflu|0 The rural south at its finest haha couldnt agree more|1 People are too stupid to survive|0 One of the poor victims was in his forties He must be very unlucky|0 I find I have to take more time off this sub than I used to It used to be very informative and levelheaded But quality control is hard with such exponential growth|1 A matter of time before some idiot gets their kid killed through thisWhy do people think this doesnt affect children There are cases of children in ICU for this So once the ICUs are full what are we going to do Kick grandpa off Kick dad off Kick someone elses kid off There are kids in China who have been orphaned by this Entire extended family dead We want that We dont even know the full after effects of this virus Lung damage Lingering presence of virus|0 You made a mistake They are not intelligent|0 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 At the turn of the millennium people were worried all the computers would stop working It was known as the millennium bug and y2k|0 California has WAY more than 20 Just in the past week going to different stores Ive seen numerous retail workers coughing Those people have to work even if they are sickMy neighbor who is a nurse told me the story of a couple who came into the hospital coughing last week but the hospital refused to test for Corona virus because they hadnt traveled in the past 30 days|0 Still an assumption thoughNo its an assessment based on previous pandemicsAnd even if that is the case going back up and down the levels of qurantine measures you actually delay this more by splitting the epidemic into multiple peaks We dont know that it is possible to impose quarantine measures more than once Quarantine is hugely disruptive and fatiguing there is an enormous amount of day to day repair and maintenance that our civilization requires In order to be effective a lock down has to be total and long term and that has economic social and engineering costs that significantly reduce our ability to impose another one There is a good chance we will only get to do it once in a way that is effectiveits rushing it There are good reasons to want the peak to occur sooner rather than later If we we delay it too much well push the peak into the next flu season And if we only get on chance at quarantine we wont be able to do it now and next winterThere is also a realistic possibility of a second deadlier wave caused by a mutated version of this virus In that scenario we need a large number of our population to already have the partial immunity to the second wave that you would get from having recovered from the first A vaccine for this first wave which would also give partial immunity to a second wave could well be 18 months away at best Over the next 18 month the virus is going to infect millions more people worldwide giving it millions of chances to mutant or recombine and produce a deadlier second wave so I dont believe that waiting for a vaccine is a good strategyThis is very very clear UK is pursuing a theory when there is an international community of scientists saying dont do thisThere are also a large body of scientists who support this approach such as the UK governments scientific advisors It is also the approach being taken by the Dutch government presumably under advice from their scientific advisors All we have are theories We have not had to deal with a pandemic like this before The COVID19 outbreak is a unique scenario a virus with a previously unseen combination of incubation rates infectiousness and deadliness combined with a world that is more conected and vulnerable to pandemics than ever before Nobody can say with certainty what the best approach is Ultimately the difference between our approach and the Chinese approach might simply be the difference between six and half a dozen And we are two months into this thing Looking at other countries and saying theyre doing better than us is a bit like declaring the winner of an F1 race after the first lapAlso a lot of that international community of scientists are not experts on anything remotely relevent to a pandemic the director of the UCL Observatory signed that stupid letter a few days ago which gives you an indication of how much its advice is worth Scientifist are just as likely to gob off about things they dont know anything about as the rest of us|1 I was once served one of those as a special dinner by a Viking impersonator never again|1 Those were strong words for not having searched for peer reviewed articles I have been reading peer reviewed journal articles constantantly on this People need to have humility about their knowledge if you shut me down without engaging in a conversation or explaining why you are shuting down my statements is that not the definition of an internet troll|1 All hospitalshealth clinics should have outdoor screening as a required first stop before allowing entry to the facility|0 I doubt it It was a sentence I will try to watch soon and try to come back Cannot tonight|0 There will be no cure for this Viruses dont work that way Not likely to be a vaccine either as coronaviruses are really mutable|0 Not from China doesnt need testing its only a silly pandemic anywayWhy does the US give so little shits for its people and also manages to come off racist at the same timethat takes some skill|0 Ah thank you for taking the time to explain I see you guys have no shortage whatsoever of broken politicians You have to wonder what twisted minds can call these political wins when the loser is society at large themselves very much included when SHTF eg nowAlas Some people dont seem to get it until its too late and it seems that current shorttermism and sensationalism has promoted these people to the top Its like the greats are now relegated to secondary turfs Im desperately searching today the inspiration I can read in historical speeches figures of the past Where the F are we now in that movement Absurdly close to the gutter|1 Laughter in the belly|1 No one we know goes to the states often so Im not as worried about that|0 Looks like they finally agree that we need to test more peoplehttpsmobiletwittercomAllieHBNewsstatus1237061056620625921Expect UK cases to rocket from here then Hold on tight riders scream if you want to go faster|1 Entitled people who think they can do whatever they want because they live in a free country and also believe bad things cant affect them as they only happen to others|1 How do you get 20 percent hiv Damn|0 Omg I cant agree more Ever since then things have gotten weirder and weirder It started slow but now I feel like were circling the drain|1 I think we rose to the occasion seeing theyre having trouble getting GPU work units out now If you find your GPU just sitting there doing nothing its because there are no WUs available Just give it time and it will eventually pick one upAlso there are CPUonly Coronavirus WUs so dont forget to add your CPU to the mix of you can|0 I think youre underestimating how big the USAlso most Americans dont get 20 day paid holidays like Europeans to be driving up and down the border|1 Yup Im not worried about the total number Its the exponential growth rate that worries me Thats what I meant|1 So the red tape will kill us Ah go in ill test positive but tell the doc you have a trip to Africa planned and need an antimalarial Why not|0 I just donated two p 95 masks Im an artist and use them for when I work with plastic I called my local health agency and they transferred me to a hospital who said yes please bring themLet that sink in Two drs are using hand me down respirators from an artist because our government doesnt have its shit together|1 As someone flying through there in less than two weeks Great cool cool cool Time to wear gloves 247 or something I guess|1 The lack of understanding of what dividends are in this thread is striking At the end of every year a company reports its Net Income which is its effective profit The company will either give a dividend letting all shareholders receive a check or keep that money in the company increasing the value of shares by the equivalent amount Why again is it evil for companies to pay dividendsPS if you invest 1000 dollars in a CD at 2 interest youll earn 20 a year If you take out that 20 each year thats a dividend If you keep the 20 in the account thats the opposite of taking a dividend Thats literally what a dividend is|1 Just a note here that asthma can also get better over time This happened to me I used to have to get randomly hospitalized for it but now twenty years later only minor symptoms appear when I get sick|0 I do not find this post helpful at all On the contrary it is one of the most onerous posts I have encountered How many statisticians does it take to change a light bulb We will never know they all lie about it anyway|1 Dont the stats show that men die about twice as often as women as well Maybe smoking has something to do with that|0 Yeah Ive told her nearly 100 times to prepare even if I tell to get prepared she says not a big deal if our local mayor doesnt say it is|1 And our healthcare system is conservative in general They dont want you to be taking up hospital resources unless its a dire situation If they had to check every cold patient for COVID it was would be a nightmare for our healthcare system|0 The irony|0 You give WHO far too much creditTheyre just hedging their betsThey more than likely know nothing controversial|1 Before the cure and vaccine happiness might be the most import Italy is the happiest country I know they will be fine|1 We have also paid for millions of dollars in coronavirus research through NIH and two private companies Johnson Johnson and Sanofi Pasteur will piggy back off that research to create drugsvaccine for virus making their PRIVATE companies profit off the tax dollar research that WE paid for Disgusting Interesting side note Trump has stock in Johnson Johnson Im not on either political side because I think they are all greedy and dont care a lick about the regular people but at least some of them tried to speak out against this todayhttpsschakowskyhousegovmediapressreleaseshousedemocratsdemandfairdrugpricingtaxpayerfundedcoronavirusvaccineorhttpsschakowskyhousegovmediapressreleaseshousedemocratsdemandfairdrugpricingtaxpayerfundedcoronavirusvaccineorhttpsfortunecom20160809herearedonaldtrumps14biggeststockmarketinvestmentshttpsfortunecom20160809herearedonaldtrumps14biggeststockmarketinvestments|0 Disagree he needs to be made an example of|0 only those who survive those who die usually dont take part in those studies|0 I live in Canada and work in the Agricultural Industry I think if anything like a shutdown is to happen here we may be in a similar position|1 dont succumb to your nation states hate|0 Jeeesus you want to tag people Yeah that doesnt sound like a bad idea at all|1 Agreed that the median was 34 days and also the median for severe cases was 2 days|0 Sweet virtue signal all the other redditors will know that youre on the right side of historyReal talk politicizing this global wave of death is fucking tacky and everyone involved should be ashamed|0 Currently yes Even when they announce further fees being waived its still not completely clear if the entire hospital visit would be free or not|1 Speaking of ridiculous guess what my coworker told me today People need to calm down about this coronavirus More people die every year to toasters I SHIT YOU NOT I was absolutely dumb founded|0 Goodluck to them its going to be a free for all once the Government either weakens or collapses entirely them having a ton of oil wont be good either a lot of outside forces will try to capitalize on that|0 It seems like the death rate from COVID19 in Italy is pretty high compared to other places Do you know why that is Is it due to an older population or in some way related to healthcare infrastructure issues|1 We have never received EU subsidy just normal EU funds like any other nation We also gave back in taxes and fines enough that most times the final tally was in EUs favour The quality of our services has been dropping in the past decade because of generalized budget cuts and I cant of course compare with everywhere else in Europe I still doubt theyre the worst thoughWe also didnt ask for money in this occasion We asked for leeway as normally we would be held to a series of strict economic standards see above about budget cuts|0 Dont panic Interesting ThanksI think theres more important matters to discuss right now than shitpost memes Absurd level of privilege being displayed right now in bluecheck land|1 This will happen in America The CFR will be high by any standard I believe they used the nursing home as the first hot spot to normalize the deaths over 65 I imagine resources will be used on 45 and under Maybe even younger Depends on how bad we get Its horrible just to even type|0 Its really easy to justify quarantining yourself when you have been tested and are a confirmed case If you have mild symptoms or partial symptoms it becomes really hard to justify We had it with our neighbours they came into contact with a confirmed case but are really struggling as in their words dont have any symptoms Locally the guidance flipped from quarantining yourself if you had contact with a confirmed case to just watching for symptoms The psychology was interesting to see play out if not a little scary|1 Excellent list friend take care|1 Yep same here I do this every year anyway cuz i dont want the flu or this so Ill keep going until we know more|0 Thats like your college roommate advising you that you should not pursue the very friendly pneumatic blond next doorSomehow American industry manages to turn out jerseys of championship winning sports teams in 24 hoursFWIW The standard surgical mask appears to be not as effective as the 3M P100 filter on a half face mask sold through the medical supply department of Home Depot Not as easy to talk with but just wash and change filters on occasion Not politically correct to discuss is the very significant threat posed by the largely addicted homeless population|1 Its sad that when you put links to sources people will just ignore it and believe their supreme leader isnt a crook and hasnt done anything wrong|1 Yep Time has shown over and over again they they dont care about a majority of us yet we keep voting for the same people who wouldnt hesitate cast us aside|1 I dont believe its manmade but some extreme environmentalists must be happy with this virus because of the reduced amount of cars on the roads the airplanes that are not flying and so onIts an ideal way to make the world stop consume and pollute|1 Cold and miserable here you do know not everyone lives where you do right|0 Get edibles save your lungs You will need them in good shape potentially soon|1 Lol|1 Ive been wondering this as well|1 I was out on Long Island that year without power for about four days Fortunately the gas stove kept working and the water supply was clean so I could heat up rice lentilsTaking about the same level of prep for this as I would a bad winter storm I always have 34 weeks of shelfstable food on hand For this situation Ive added a campingstyle water filterpump and ways to transportstore 612 gallons of water for under 100|1 Yup we need to deal with this for a month or we are going to be dealing with it much longer later Trump sure as hell isnt going to show leadership so Evers needs to|0 Theyre also really bad at detecting bombs|0 I would totally stay at home for 3 weeks but I would lose my job I would need to be paid for the time lost from work and my work sure isnt going to do it|0 Is still plenty of Champagne cocaine gasoline just not most things in between|1 Maybe in a high cost of living state Not in most Nice try|0 I do love a good logarithmic scale |1 Interesting|1 Zombie movies also tend to completely ignore the idea of armored vehicles and instant fortification If you are just going to have rifleman stand their like morons it is pretty easy to be overrun But I mean they are films so ehh|1 I was surprised tooits similar in Singapore and I was assuming both these places had every case traced Epidemiological links have been found for 808 of the total cases 192 are either under investigation or sporadic caseshttpswwwcdcgokrboardboardesmida30402000000bid0030|1 It would fuck me over big time but it would do more overall good than harm defo Ive got my exams in 2 months I cant rly afford 2 weeks out but considering that at least 2 classmates are likely positive it probably should be closed|1 Lol How did this person introduce empathyIf this post is what you require in order to feel empathetic for the folks suffering from this you have some serious questions to ask yourself|1 Oh my please keep updating us here Hoping praying for their fully recovery and return to home|1 Hello Im a statistician from LombardiaI was visiting my girlfriend in Geneva last week I came back on Monday as the lockdown in Italy began Ever since Ive seen the number of cases rise in Switzerland to a worrying amountMeanwhile my girlfriend still has to work in a university and nothing is really changing in peoples lives A few mild measures but mostly business as usualWhy is Switzerland going for this approach I understand its a federation but the situation should be addressed to attempt to contain the virus or at least mitigate it Is it because they have faith in their healthcare system Are they not listening to the right people Its really puzzling to me More on the modeling side How do you model R0 What distribution do you use for it Is a Pareto distribution a good approximation Also what factors do you use to try to estimate the mean What according to your opinionsmodels contribute more to R0 mass public transportation with relatively more people using the metro for example ChinaWuhan style or social interactions SpainItaly style with relatively more people out to drink and dine and party many nights of the week Thanks for the AMA|1 US cant do it because Trump cut funding to CDC and wont approve emergency funding WTF|0 How I interpreted his response seems like he was implying the ball is the provinces court Pray for Ontario|1 Teacher here in SoCal I have no sanitizer Weve been told dont worry because they will disinfect our classrooms twice a week If thats ramped up cleaning makes me wonder how often my classroom got cleaned before this Yuck I have anxiety and most people around me want me to be more chill But Im on IV immunosuppressants Dont feel good about this thing at all|0 Stop with that BS Any government can enact extraordinary measures should it comes down to that Just because China gov pull the trigger fast and decisively doesnt mean its any less of a decision Their action already spawned thousands of disgruntled citizens posting about conditions on Chinese social media for weeks Should it hit the fan US will and should enact martial law and relevant emergency procedures to stop this|0 Fucking RepublicansImagine a world without the entire Right leaning ideology Thats Earth 20 too bad were stuck in this shitty beta branch full of morons|0 Nice No older family members huh|1 Head across the finish line then straight ahead to quarantine|1 How are there no tests available How are we messing this up so badly It boggles my mind|0 I know I listen to things WHO said yesterday about countries need stop with testing algrothims that limit testing and then we keep hearing stories people are only being tested who have traveled or ties to those who traveled or are infected Ok so I guess we arent taking that advise even though we have some evidence of community spreading Mb and sk have done not even 01 of their populations Im in manitoba and that terrifies me Its like they dont look at what has already happened in other countries like they feel they are immune to it or something Feb 22 italy had 97 reported cases 18 days later march 11 well we all know whats going down in italy|1 Why is Iran not on chartedit was looking at wrong chart|0 Lol amazing|1 The spasms are from a still robust immune system that overreacts|1 Yep Treat yourself Its important not to only focus on the negative here Stay safe|1 I hope Columbia closes we are all anxious students professors staff|1 Well in the sense that people were stationed far from home and then bringing the virus home when injured but one could argue with modern transportation if the same flu were to happen today it could probably travel much quickerfarther even though we see not in a world war Not to mention there are a number of active war zones currently all around the world and while definitely not the scale of WW1 modern times are not so drastically different that its still not a possibility Im not trying to fear monger or induce panic either but also see a lot of people almost being too calm or downplaying too much and I dont think this is anything to be underestimated At current its already unprecedented and we are only in the beginning discovery stages|1 If the test is a scarce resource and cant be given to sick people who show up in the ER coughing this is the problem not the people who want to know whether or not they have a potentially deadly disease they do not want to pass on to the rest of the community|0 I dont know what a mood chart is Is it like just a surveyish thing that asks you at certain timesBut honestly with extreme mental illness why work in a job like that|1 Fingers crossed for you that your baby will be able to get the surgery in a timely matter Hopefully by this fall things will have gotten better Hopefully things are even better by July|1 just saw that its unfortunate you know i see some hesitation in his voice but what else can you do other than trust the medical advice of top officials|1 Of the close to 90 cases we have in Singapore none have passed away touch wood and we have have at least 5 in ICU each day goes up and down as people are released or deteriorate Of course theyre receiving optimal care|1 In paris and germany they played football matches behind closed doors yesterday and thousands of fans still went to support outside the stadium which kind of defeats the purpose|1 Every reply you give is what you hope this virus to be The fact that is spreads quicker than the flu and has a higher death rate and there is no vaccine is a huge concern simply for hospitals Pretending there is nothing to worry about is amazingly foolish It is common sense and a little cautionconcern that results in people taking the precautions needed to allow current infrastructure to deal with this virus If we were all foolish like you claiming everything is over inflated the system would quickly become overwhelmedI wont reply to anything you want to spin|0 Thanks for the clarification|1 Itd be fucking exhausting and childish Its like throwing a party for someone managing to solve 11 when hes 60 years old and supposedly a genius The simple fact that everyone suddenly feels the urge to express positive feelings for something so simple says enough|1 wasnt he murdered after that|1 Oof the CDC is so painfully inadequate To not test a nurse who directly cared for a coronavirus patient|0 Be that Momma bear If I was that close my kids would be pulled Best wishes momma|1 Well everyone is going to be locked down regardless of if they like it or not|1 Waiting until st patty day morning to declare state of emergency and order bars to close Smh|0 Shit if a bunch of countries went up that high 1 million cases each that would be Spanish Flu type numbers|0 girl yes last night i woke up and my cold was gone but my chest was like constricting itself i know its because it feels like the end of the world and end of times and im depressed but i just cant seem to shake that i might have COVID i think we have had it at some point these 6 weeks and either its been mild or asymptomatic also people who have been diagnosed with flu and not been tested up to this point probably mightve have covid in georgia WHATEVER im using color therapy as my escape we cant control much|1 100 peoplehttpswwwindiatodayinindiastorycoronavirusindiakeralamaharashtrahealthministrypmochinancov164019820200126 under observation in India so farSeems impossibly optimistic that it wont reach India although SARS somehow didnt|1 And possible longterm damage|0 Still a better love story than twilightAre we still doing that|1 I feel like Im starting to form wrinkles by the lack of common sense is going on around here How are they acting like its nothing serious Ive seriously havent received any emails from my college or work on proper basic hygiene routines When I only received spam emails on bs club meetings Im not even apart of Ugh Im stupid but damn these people in charge are more idiotic on how they are treating the situation|0 They really werent it was just fun because we knew his side was bound to lose|1 The case report of the first US patient showed no virus in his blood the whole time|0 boomers should accept the virus calmly and gracefully instead of blaming young people living their lives as the cause|1 I thought it was pretty clear he said explicitly UK wasnt included in his speech|1 Well there is at least one sensible point here his career as a lawyer in Beijing whatever that means to him is certainly over He is doing nothing but shame the healthcare workers who are doing their job effectively managing an unprecedented quarantine and an unprecedented number of patients He is contributing nothing to the people around him but anxiety He is only causing himself and others unnecessary trouble So far he has revealed no conspiracy and no wrongdoing and he doesnt even have the knowledge necessary to point mistakes out so what do you even support him for Id really like to know Hes not missing you just have no right and no reason to know where he is Hes probably under quarantine rightfully so in his own opinion or house arrest not that there is much of a difference|0 Which doesnt work at all as people STILL treat this as a holiday kids playing on playgrounds folks wandering aroundI mean for fucks sake they complain they cant sit at home because the kids that get bored what kind of retarded argument is that The Netherlands is so densily populated that Im shitting bricks it will get way worse than Italy in a matter of 23 weeks|0 Soooo they have the space to keep emergency supplies but they have it not filled|0 You need more information a lot more information Your anxiety is understandable When you are information light your mind wants to make decisions to stop the anxiety but you just swim harder in a setting bowl of custard First online read this short and delightful readA Journal of a Plague Year by Daniel Defoe free at gutenberg online downloadableIn about 3 hours you will quickly see how humans respond to crises like this one Youll see your parents and you may see you I think that will help you enormouslyJust do it As to a strategy youre concerned about anyone else infecting you First you are younger and as of now you dont qualify for the honestly at risk group You need to believe that Check Italys and Chinas statistics of age cohorts infected And even if you are 1 out of 100 this is not even close to a death sentence Of that 1 or 2 or even 4 more than 90 of those people just experience the flu So you want a few things to prepare for that Thermometer bottled water Tylenol and some changes of clothes and slippers and towels around So you will live through thisYour parents Not so much But you even standing next to your parents the odds are horrid that youll be injured in any way|0 No Ventilators are an order of magnitude more complicated Different ventilation modes allow for control of volume or pressure plus a number of individualized settings such as the amount of oxygen being delivered or the amount of end expiratory pressure not to mention the measurement of respiratory parameters such as the patients negative inspiratory force|0 Z com eradicates covid19 in chinaZ com expands in Italy|1 Im just saying that if you need it you have a problem as is the case with any addictionWhy should anyone need it Were talking about people spending 247 in their homes without anything to do I believe people get really bored|0 Sharing is caring|1 Its a classified briefing If he said anything he could go to prison|0 If youre dead you dont have to pay your bills and you will never get ill again|0 Ive been trying to call JetBlue since Sunday but wait times were so bad I could not even get through After 6 hours of waiting a rep finally picked upOutside of low bookings I cant even imagine what that customer service staff is going through right now|0 Primus sucks|0 It could have been a crappy weapon that was put in storage and got outAnother thought is that China is blaming America It could be worth killing a couple million of your own citizens to fuel an anti American propaganda machine|0 Its not as simple as that they are hard to make and we are running out of the chemicals needed Plus the other countries need to test too|0 Bill Murray tried to warn us why didnt we listen|0 Except for the Chinese this is true for everyone|1 Yeah this is worse in every possible way than I expected|0 Dont be fooled Just sediment may make you think oh its just dirt dirt is natural this isnt a problem But nature is about having the right things in the right places at the right times Humans can get sick from breathing dirtdusty air Fish can get sick from living in dirtdisturbed water Algae blooms are natural its just algae a natural thing but algae blooms can damage ecosystems|0 In Hong Kong nearly everyone of us wear masks And not need to mention we are close to Wuhan Now we have less confirmed cases and rising slower than many European countries and some other countries including the US of A You know how dense Hong Kong is and we still only have so few cases compared to other nomasks countriesI know this is not scientific but you can assume masks slow down the spread of COVID19 at least to a certain degreeBiggest problem of COVID19 is it is contagious days before symptoms show And if you are just wearing mask which many still dont when symptoms show chances are you have infected a lot of people already|0 Fuck Gamestop with something sand papery|0 Thank you Ill look into that You have a great nightday|1 The sub was really highquality with some smart people and actual news before 10k members now its mostly fear and doomers |0 Sorry sport but no|0 LabXchangehttpswwwlabxchangeorg is a free online platform for science education built at Harvard University At LabXchange we want to teach complex life science topics in a relatable accessible way and empower people to engage confidently with science news and research articles With the coronavirus making headlines around the world we saw an opportunity to create a new resource on our platform Coronavirus From Bats to Humans to Epidemichttpswwwlabxchangeorglibrarypathwaylxpathwayc0ed81addd49461e99096f70e2762ce8Coronavirus From Bats to Humans to Epidemic was created to help inform and teach about the exciting unique cell biology of the virus and its hosts You can use it to learn more about the coronavirus outbreak and its origins And what do bats have to do with coronaviruses As it turns out the adaptation to flight may be what turned bats into perfect virus reservoirs Click the link to find out what we mean You might notice that we call this a pathway Thats our term for a sequence of short pieces of digital learning content kind of like a playlist LabXchange allows users to combine and remix content into short contextualized learning experiences which they can share and discuss We hope youll spend some time exploring our other content and resources and maybe create your own pathwaysWe are not researchers in virology labs or medical professionals we are primarily educators and communicators That said our team includes two structural biologists with backgrounds in basic cell biology virology and molecular mechanisms But we all share a passion for teaching science contributing to scientific literacy and enabling people to explore share and discuss scienceWe are happy to answer any scientific questions but for medical and public healthrelated questions we recommend you visit WHOinthttpsWHOint and CDCgovhttpswwwcdcgov And if you have questions about LabXchange ask away|1 Thank you so much I just applied for crisistextline but if that doesnt work for some reason I will try this next|1 This feeling I had it too a few days ago Wish I had a description for it|1 If there were around 2000 critical cases about 1000 deaths and about 31000 person days for that group in the scope of this study could you divide 31000 person days by 2000 critical cases to get around 15 days per person to average death Im not sure if Im dividing the right numbers If thats how that works is that from diagnosis to death or from critical status to death If the above is right then we should be seeing a higher death rate in that most recent cohort if it was purely timedependent But Im not sure if my math is right|0 Im really sorry to hear that sucks even more But its not too late Really brave and smart decision you got this Best of luck to you too|1 Im also in lethbridge I wouldnt say the city is on lockdown But yeah lots of places are closing|1 Casually suggesting murder as a sacrifice allllllrighty then Really hope this idea doesnt spread like a virusAmerica is making the same stupid mistake of China Denying anything is wrong when we should be quarantining in place until the infection curve tapers off Epidemics are like raging fires that cannot be stopped with water can only remove fuel sources and hope it doesnt spread further Dont need to fight this fire by incinerating actual peoplewtf|0 need help|1 True enough Guess Ill have to get the signal lantern out and mount it on the roof DnD is very important|1 You realize people spit when they laugh right I skipped the show we had tickets for And didnt give or sell them to do one else to use Use your damn head|1 Hes breaking 501 rules sponsorships itself arent the problem|1 The majority of the US population will start taking it seriously I think Thats a step in the right direction better than denial Acceptance is a step in the right direction|1 Go for your crush life is short|0 Lol wrong as Republicans cut funding all we pay for is the military Not the soldiers who suffer or have ptsd just the ones who can go fight|0 httpscoronavirus1point3acrescomenThis website updates quite often and you can click on each state and it will give you a brief description of the infected I have used many trackers since the beginning of this and so far this one is my alltime favorite |0 Must be nice As a lowly CE professional I am often in customers homes doing work And many times I have gone to jobs where either the kids are sick or the whole family is sick I can count on one hand in the 20 years I have done this where a customer cancelled an appointment because of illness Nothing like walking into a house infested with flu cold or GI virus particles floating about I shudder to think what is going to happen when one of these people get CV and dont bother to disclose it to my boss Hell even if they did my boss would still send me and if I get sick he doesnt pay sick time My wife is a cancer survivor and has severe asthma I cannot bring this home We are so fucked|0 This is so messed up Like its happening on fucking purpose|0 Dude have you ever been to venice Thats how people get around the canals Very few roads and cars there its all water ways People arent boating there for fun theyre boating as a general means of commuting|1 Today is my due date but Im not birthing in a hospital This is the only thing keeping me from total panic but we still need groceries and Im terrified to go to the stores here theyve been cleared out and lines are very long every day I just want to have some food to come home to after ld |0 How do you mean I think I saw an article of someone 3d printed a valve not a whole machine My guess is was a replacement part of a part thats pretty common to break|1 Terrible advice here and its why the market keeps droppingWhat youre saying is BUY HIGH SELL LOW HERP DERP|0 Completely agree but we cant change the past only the future Id rather be 6 weeks late than 12|1 Its comical how all these its just the flu and ok doomer trolls keep flocking to a subreddit called CHINA FLU to tell us how hysteric were being and that this will blow overPeople who truly dont care wouldnt make the effort to search for this specific subreddit or click on this subreddit or post on this subreddit if they didnt have some nagging doubt they wanted to get off their chest|0 Yes because everything bad trump|0 The just said that some flu deaths that have already happened were determined posthumously to be covid So probably a lot more people have died of this than are being officially tallied|0 I agree All of the American complacency and exceptionalism has really set us up for a massive failure Coupling that with the whole lack of time off from work situation its a disaster of epic and totally preventable proportion|0 Based on the abstract home made cloth masks are practically useless80 and 98 instant penetration results yeah no thanks|1 The United States of AmericaWhere healthcare and Health insurance is super expensive for most folks so they rely on WebMd and their local WalMart for medicine|1 Its a customcoded server that prepares the data to be shown in a meaningful manner |1 Nah the celebrities dont gives a shit because it hits All races and genders So its not political uncorrect to not speak out about it They only care if they can push how progressive they Are|1 Those posts are wrong though technicallyTheoretically the following is possibleHuman is sickHuman coughs on dogs noseHome Nurse Visitor comes to change the Humans bandagesNurse pats dog Dog sneezes in Nurses face Nurse laughs it offNurse puts on protective gear to clean and dress Humans woundNurse leavesDog transmitted virusA dogs nose is just a surface and we know the virus can live on a surface for a period of time|1 What just leaving it at that Its a fair point that a 79 yearold feels he needs to go out and work in the middle of a pandemic just so he can afford the rent|1 Clorox wipes will leave the surface wet for at least 5 minutes I know this because I use them to clean my sinks and toilets|1 Lmao uni assignments|1 I found keeping a box of tissues around helps That and a lot of willpower The amount of times Ive wanted to itch is surprising now that I shouldnt|1 I bought my old man 2 weeks of shtf rations He still thinks Im nuts|0 This mightve made sense if they were leaving off important experts but there is no indication of that in the article|0 Everyone hates the cops until a roving band of Karens robs you of your newly purchased oneply John Wayne shit paper|0 Some people in my areanetworkcontacts must think they are government agents or something because they are flooding social media with agressive comments of STAY THE FUCK HOME you goddamn idiotsAt one point gotta sit down with your agressive interpretations of public health directives That point is now|0 Thats the problem with so many people they either care too little or they care way too much If everyone was rational and handled this normally this virus probably wouldnt have even have spread as far as it did and if it did people wouldve been prepared for it instead of fighting each other of the last container of hand sanitizer or the last pack of toilet paper|1 The CDC estimateshttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenpreliminaryinseasonestimateshtm that the flu has already killed 1800046000 people in the US since October so you know Not sure its ever just the flu|0 Actually the initial update did not have that qualification and the directive to stay at home as much as possible was the top item listed instead of the last There was a revision that reordered and softened the language a day or two later|1 Nope Voting is the last guard rail He has the Senate DOJ and supreme Court As long as they hold those presidency they can do absolutely anything they want|1 I dont think any of yall even know this is happeningThe national news apparently isnt covering it at all I know I read it online in the national news media The cases the deaths the school closures Its being reportedI have friends in Portland and Seattle but Im not hearing about it from them on Facebook because they arent panicstricken like you are|0 Kinda rude to call someone a homophobe out of nowhere dont ya think|0 This is how you provide information to the public in a reassuring and honest manner without causing irrational fear The notion that everyone has to be kept in the dark in order to avoid panic is complete bollocks|1 No A surgical mask will not fit it the virus is smaller than the holes in the mask Get a real mask because the paper ones DONT PROVIDE ANY PROTECTION|0 The Spanish flu was specifically more lethal for people at peak immune system strength than those slightly younger or slightly olderWW1 mobilized a far far wider age range of us Europeans than 2535 Ever played HoI4 The closest equivalent would be Scraping the Barrel If it was related to being in the trenches the elevated lethal age range would also therefore be far far biggerThe dominant theory is that it was caused by cytokine storms which are as strong as your immune system and more lethal if your immune system is able to react more stronglyEdit To be clear the flu was still the most lethal for very old or very young people The lethality for adults at the peak of their immune strength was just way higher than expected or normal|1 First rule of fight club never talk about fight club Second rule of fight club never talk about fight club|0 I signed twice but dont know wtf its going to do I hate this guy to the bottom of my heart but curious what the actual action can be taken to take him down|1 I would be ok with it I work in a machine shop so I cant really work from home I would personally probably be ok if I didnt get paid for it if I couldnt cover my bills my parents are always like well help you out I dont want them to but a situation like that would probably call for it if its needed|1 If they do it at all dont think they should they should absolutely not pick and choose who gets it or there will be widespread social unrest I get your point but nows not a good time|0 No the world wont end But its the end of the world for the people who will die Taking appropriate measures at an appropriate time will save lives And were decidedly not doing that|0 Your arguments amount to whataboutism|0 I have amazon prime I dont really feel like buying stuff from the internet where the mail comes from who knows where right now|0 Well youll get one single wear out of each mask before it has to be disposed of so it makes no real difference whether you have them or anyone else unless youre only planning on going outside ten times during the course of this thing|0 Its a tragedy Its like watching a train crash in slow motion|0 No The meteor was inevitable And if you freaked out your loved ones would lose a substantial amount of money in damages Thats the situation|0 Well that depends on your risk appetite and trust you place in food health management of country of origin processing|1 Thanks that makes sense|1 Edited my comment to say that not all cases cause lung damage|0 solano county is where travis airbase is located with all those coronavirus evacuees thats a good enough reason to do extra testing|1 Chill bro its just the flu s|0 its that they probably have the best tools available to combat an infectious diseaseexcept of course for the distrust of the population and labyrinthine party bureaucracy that requires silencing and vilifying the experts while the virus spreads around china and the worldthe idea that china has handled this well is mistaken and taiwans right next door|1 The current testing criteria are based on the situation as of 3 weeks ago before there was demonstrable community transmission were currently seeing the lag as the wheels of bureaucracy grindWhilst I agree lying isnt a great thing to do I can understand and sympathize with those who feel they should do so|0 World War C|0 Yep On a military base httpspatchcomcalifornialakeelsinorewildomarcoronavirus14dayquarantine195peoplemarchairbase|1 Trying to appreciate the baseline Ive read that seasonal flu is about 13 so your reaction to it being low is because its ability to spread is closer to the flu|0 ok then food deserts in urban areas are a made up lie take your choice|1 Welcome to Italy 2 I guess its horrible that we now can mention Italy in such a horrible context|0 very likely well probably hear the results of research groups already looking into this in 612 months|1 Be sure to look out for this as many Chinese dont realise your meaning and the CCP is all too happy to turn the rhetoric into us vs them and were definitely US amirite|1 Buying extra beans and washing your hands better isnt an extra stress load|1 From the video the vessel must be immersed in a disinfecting solution for 30min and boiled for at least 1 hour I dont think any restaurant or cafeteria doing this right nowI should eat with my hand |1 I cant tell for sicker but median age in Us is 38 versus 38 4 in ChinaPercentage of elderly over 65 years old was 14 8 in 2015 in the Usa and 17 3 in China but including people over 60 years oldHow do you define weaker health care system is it a question of number of hospitals facilities or access to healthcare in general including the question of costs |1 Thank you for writing this I can only imagine what you are going through I am heartened to hear about how much people are helping others despite great personal sacrifice Take care and I hope this crisis subsides sooner rather than later|1 Watching Italy right now is HUGE for what our outcome will be This is already bigger than the 2008 situation but the media and the administration will never specifically say thatwhich they dont need to anywaythe public is smart People are smart Investors are smart We all see what is happening Your mom and her company is right I believe it Id bet money that it is true|1 Its ok man at least theyre learning|1 What if Im fairly healthy other than a random mild coldsinus infection under 40 but i have well controlled high blood pressure and am fat Like I work at a massive retailer and cant just stay home I have good hand washing and hand sanitizer use habits|1 This is exactly my thought In order to have people listen you need to be stern Get on the stage and say Do not go to pubsbars If you have symptoms you must stay at home Not just Terribly sorry chaps the situation isnt great Try to avoid pubs if possibleI actually sort of agree with this slowly escalating measures tactic But unless you do it properly why even bother There are lives at stake for fuck sake|0 You can trust it Im Thai and I think were very glad that at least our public health system is one of the good thing here Despite other problem form politics|1 Everybody liked that|1 Incompetence at surreal levels|0 As a Chinese I would say because this is preventable at the very first place Many Hubei officials ignored and delay doing things because they simply dont care and dont kniw shit also trying to make the area look good Saving facesMany are angry including me because Hubei prepared nothing when locked down the city I just read an article about it will translate later|0 martyrMy goverment is calling everyting martyr because when religious people think they are going to heaven they are less angrypanicsad Its really good way to excuse your stupid decisions on religious society They are like yea they died but they are martyr so everything is ok Vote me|1 its been more than a month and ppl are still saying I assume Its common knowledge Stop assuming|0 when I visited the link it had switched to some other content any chance you can link directly|1 Also just smart business If they wanna be the supplier of choice for people avoiding the virus this helps I already go there because I can go at late hours when its basically empty and its cheap to stock up on some things and limit trips Knowing they will let sick workers stay home makes me feel even better about it because my main worry with them would be that they would go typical evil walmart and not allow for things like this|0 Italy dont test anyone who isnt already suffering badly Look at Germany and Italys rates Same strain Very different numbers The 55 hospitalisation doesnt mean over half of the infected go to hospital Only over half of all tested|1 Maybe illegal immigrants dont want to come here anymore because we will be full of outbreaks|0 I had a bad case of pneumonia a year and a half ago Had to get major surgery to decorticate my right lung Apparently Im fully recovered and when I asked my doctors if a should have any special considerations regarding my health they said only to avoid smoking since they suspect that was the reason the infection was able to hit me so hard in the first place Of course a pandemic wasnt something I had taken into consideration Im a 30yo female no other health issues until that Am I at more risk of contracting this virus And if so would my risk to develope worst symptoms increase Thank you in advance|0 In the UC Davis case one person going untested for 4 days resulted in 124 medical staff being quarantined for 14 days The consequences of obstructing testing are not minor It seems irrational|0 Really really dumb|0 I know a guy whos got tons of stuff Hes a crazy prepper lets go to his house|0 I didnt understand a word of this but yay good newsit blocks Proteins Ncov needs to attach to your Lung cells and stops with that entering said cells aka Ncov will be way less dangerous probably have symptons like a light flu then Body reactions like feaver and stuff |1 Youre doing good work|1 How about we use the momentum to turn scientific publication on its head Its a pretty outrageous industry sucking us all dry of research funds in exchange for very very little There are successful examples of top journals run completely independently from editorials|1 Thank you very much Im trying my best to just put it out of my mind but this is crazy|1 Nothing wrong with you It is the only reasonable decision|1 and hes a complete moron so that is never a good idea|0 Well maybe they will learn how to be humble again|1 Iran is a country often defended on Reddit as merely misunderstood and forward thinking such as it being illegal for women to dance at a rock concert Very progressive indeed if youre under Islamic Law It doesnt shock me that theyre grossly underreporting the death toll because its a reflection on what they push to the world as a near flawless government ontop of literally everything and anything The reality is nothing can fully prepare you for an all out pandemic so instead of admitting the deaths and being open about it with the world understanding and sympathising theyre instead doing their typical lie about everything gig Dont forget this is the same country that cut off the internet to the entire country killed hundreds of protesters then turned it back on like it was nothing Later the man in charge of that entire genocide was killed by a US drone strike later the mass media there hailed him as a hero A hero That just ordered the deaths of hundreds of protesters in a single day thousands over a span of a single year If theyre able to lie about such major things as mass deaths of protesters then call the murderer a hero its very easy to understand how they can say oh no we only have 34 deaths but in reality the deathtoll is much much higher But just look at Irans foreign ministers smile and laugh youll soon forget again that Iran is ran by a Supreme Leader and a really fucked up government|1 Theyre killers|0 Thats fucking scaryBut SK did pretty good with containment measure send all my prayers to SK right now|1 How the fuck does anyone have any confidence in the US government at this point|0 Im still seeing March Madness commercials|0 I really think they have decided to let this burn They will try and downplay it as much as possible and hope for the bestA couple of reasons first any of the US pandemic plans pretty much come to the conclusion that we are fucked Essentially their message is state and local governments you are going to be on your own we might be able to help but dont count on itSecond reason is the economic fallout could be as bad or worse than the epidemic itself So they have decided to smoke hopium and keep the economy going in the short term It is IMO a catastrophically stupid decisionas the economy will implode anyway once the magnitude of the epidemic as well as the official lies about it become clearThe end result could not only be the epidemic crashing the healthcare system due to the minimizing the danger messageAND the economy but ALSO could cause civil unrest as people will be PISSED off and scared when they realize the have been lied to|0 From Singapore We had a slight panic in early Feb when the first cases were announced Things are largely back to normal now We wait for the daily announcement of new cases which comes around 8pm Most cases now are imported People are out and about shopping and living Few wear masks Lots of confidence in the governments ability to manage this Most people are responsible enough to stay home if they feel ill And they get tested if they have corona type symptoms All positives are isolated immediately in a hospital to prevent further spread|1 Yeah hes a good governor but I cant fucking wrap my head around the fact that we had a Post Malone concert with thousands of people from surrounding areas all crammed up in a sweaty concert hall just 2 night agowhy that was not stopped I dont know|1 My husband comes home from work everyday and asks So whats the latest update with the Coronvirus Because he knows I spend most of my free time reading Reddit My text messages to him have gone from real conversation to just a stream of reddit posts Ive shared with him|1 China is the industrial center of the world They can produce lots of anythingCan western countries even make large numbers of ventilators inside the countryIt is a national security issue and not just with respect to human enemies but also nonhuman like a microorganism|1 Thats just retardedThey basicaly ignore peopleso they can minimize the amount of infected and dead people in official reports|0 Which is all we need to do to prevent the healthcare system from getting overloaded Thats the entire point We cant stop the spread but we can slow it down to a manageable level|1 Served in the government most of my career and Ive seen plenty of BS and beauracratic crap but in retrospect my complaints were nothing compared to now We just have to remember who failed us and hold them to absolute severe accountability I moved out of the USA long ago and now as I watch from the outside Im so ashamed of my countrys response|0 Well when you have a fever it feels betterSeriously the stuff in the compact fridge is mostly meat products since my son is a real atkins diet type person Even eats baloney for desert We think he was actually an alien planted on us in the delivery room somehow because he refuses to eat any candy cookies ice cream or chocolate|1 Due to the shape of the exponential curve the vast majority of cases will be recent infections So while there likely are many asymptomatic mild cases theres also going to be a lot of cases that are too early in disease progression to have turned serious yet|0 Id be more concerned about accidentally spreading it to someone that wouldnt be able to fight it off when back home not necessarily myself contracting it|0 Australia will get it anyway It will get it from people coming back from Bali and backpackers through Asia What is important is that people stay home and dont go to hospital unless they are in that 20 that actually need hospital care We know a lot about it now compared to 4 weeks ago It was 23 jan that China imposed quarantine They did a great job and we should be thankful that it gave us time to work out our strategy People will die Let you in on a secret You were always going to die|1 Government rich people Government make their decisions on what the rich want Rich want a strong economy over the welfare of the masses Look to how they address climate change to understand|1 Thanks mate guess its not the case in the coming immediate days|1 With one major difference We havent really tested anybody for the most part here If you dont test hard to tell how many people are actually infected For all we know we could already have 200000 infected Symptoms dont show up for like 14 days and for some dont show up at all|0 Free Hulu and Netflix for all|1 I see I just dont know what people are looking for in the images Sounds like if you arent able to guess at the issue from the scans then they look pretty much the same|1 No But my parents that live with me are|0 Do you know of the study in question Because the article mentions that they have considered emergency training with vets being the best studied|1 I think the issue is that the people might be infected yeah but also the surfaces or ac|0 Why would this intimidate you If you got it and recovered youre in a great position|1 The general public just isnt aware how bad its gonna get economically in the very near futureYeah a lot of people especially those who dont know that Trump lies all day every day refuse to believe that the coronavirus is anything other than a hyped up novelty fluThey constantly harass me online because they think the news reports I post from other countries are fake news because they cant imagine that things are really as bad as it soundsx200BIm sure were totally unprepared for the scope of this impactYeah I think youre right This is gonna be a bigger disruption to normal life than 911 Its as if every city and every town in America got hit by a hurricane all at once Some experts said this is a disaster on the scale of a world war|0 Potentially if it is true that it can reinfect or cause long lasting damage after recovery then yes|1 There are plenty of problems to be solved warviolence environmental equality But not solving this one wont help us any step forward in solving the others although a point could be made for environmental issues on the short term|0 Good point never thought of that|1 I mean even if false the idea of the US president having the coronavirus would be beyond scary|0 Ill take someone who reads 100 books a year over a person who wishes to diminish the extremely deadly effects of this virus|0 What happens after the 24 weeks that everything is being shut down forIs it assumed itll have spread enough that the new rate of infection is low enough as to not overcrowd hospitals Like most will still get it but after the curve flattens were out in the wild again|0 Thanks Tempting to get my hopes upDefinitely would be good to have this as a treatment and even better to get a vaccine as a prevention|1 Too earlysave your maskslike what many other redditors said if and when the virus was spreading the person who assaulted you would really be begging u for one|0 I will be messaging you in 14 days on 20200324 171951 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003242017195120UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgh0p1germanchancellorangelamerkelsaysthat6070fk4hx2hcontext3CLICK THIS 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economic disaster is a disaster and will have consequences no doubt That being said pretending a public health disaster doesnt exist and focusing only on the economy is going to give a public health catastrophe that will almost without doubt lead directly to a probably larger economic disaster gasp I cant understand why people dont get this Removing 3 of consumers from a consumerservice focused economy is going to be catastrophic|0 Canada has been doing a good job so far in keeping the public informed Just keep watching the news However it may get out of hand soon as the states is definitely overrun with it and no one knows it and with people returning from trips to the usa it may get very bad very soon here The US is screwing the whole world right now Canada should stop flying to the states as they are clearly making this issue worse|0 Was this state relevant in yesterdays data Just curious I couldnt find much info|1 He might have had it and if he died from it theres no way they would tell the public He might be dead now Just an opinion|0 Stress and severe lack of sleep can greatly compromise your immune system Not to mention the doctors literally have the highest chance of being exposed since they come in close range with the sick every day|0 Stop pretending like we actually know the real numbers right now|1 Thats why when or if people prep for quarantine possibility they should really consider their mental state and stock up on things to entertain themselves as well and foods they enjoy and even things to pamper themselves It can be all about survival but if you prep for the depression that will affect many in a quartine state it could end up really helping your mental state|1 This is why IP is a hot topic in the medical sector Looks like the manufacturer has put greed before the common good|1 I dont know either Probably panic|0 Yup I did this as well I am saving for a car so I didnt want to go all out I have at least two weeks of food in my pantry already So I dedicated 100 to prepping Only spent about 50 on myself Canned chicken rice beans TOLIET PAPER etc The other 50 was cat food and litter I have enough to last them about 15 months Thats it for now If later it starts looking very likely well have shortages and what not then I will really spend a lot Right now I have enough for a month just in case|1 26 people from the nursing home in Washington have died but only a dozen of them were testedWe cant even count the dead|0 no|0 Thats how my fiance was last week when I wouldnt let us go out to a brewery saturday night like we had planned Last night she finally came around to the point where I got to I told you so|1 The problem with lies is that its habit forming|0 jw but where are you getting 25 CFR|1 Thats because we know its starting to get to end game where shit will hit the fan and then pick back up Its following a predictable path Everyone else is panicking over the uncertainty of it all|0 It may be because Chloroquine is contraindicated in people with heart disease or on certain types of meds Fortyeight percent of US citizens have heart disease Were a tough population to treat Were so unhealthy|0 Okay well a MD gave a short lecture which I watched several days ago and he said that|1 Honestly that was not obviousOh cool I wouldnt have been able to afford any of themftfy|1 that is a big concern you may not be as careful as if you were displaying symptoms and spread it to others for example taking a flight|0 Its by far not the end of the story unless were talking about the conclusions inside your own mind You refuse to look at the big picture and still dont have back data to go on The consistent results were derived from social trends like Ive already pointed out to you but for whatever reason cant get pastEither way I hope you and those you love stay healthy and strong stay safe out there|1 Youre wrong sediment is pollution Its regulated under the Clean Water Act in the US Any construction site with soil disturbances greater than 1 acre must get a permit and use sediment and erosion control measures such as silt fence|0 Implying he would endanger people given the chance|1 yeah thats true at least they didnt accidentally or unknowingly drop a nuclear bomb on anyone like the airforce more than once|1 Thats a patently North American thing Ive had this discussion dozens of times with my wife Canadian Ive told her that Ive never had the flu influenza in my life and she points to that one weekend where I had a highish fever and a massive headache thats not influenza god damnit|1 Better than a few days ago when it was only A Are doctors allowed to test themselves Didnt Christopher Higgins decide to take a test on a whim|1 ahh thats what it was thanks|1 Np I myself was wonderingdidnt know had to look it up|1 This is similar to a Facebook post I saw tonight but after I reposted it someone at Facebook removed it without so much as a how about NOI still have it in my cacheShared from a another page This is shared from a friends page I dont post this to frighten anyone but simply to alert you that it might be time to prepare Please stay calm and proceed with the idea that what you do may affect others who have reason to be extra safe Dont take more than your share of items from the shelfbut do prepare This was written and shared by a friend in Washington state To my fellow Okies who believe this isnt something to be extremely vigilant aboutI remember when we hit 4 cases about 18 days ago and schools are closed until April 24thSo if youre not here in Kirkland let me give you an update on our not so little townOur local hospital Evergreen one of the topranked hospitals in the country and literally at ground zero in the fight against Coronavirus has run out of beds as of today The staff is exhausted demoralized and supplies are running lowBecause so many staff members are sick and the operational tempo is so high medical staff told to be in quarantine due to exposure but not showing symptoms have been summoned back to work So far 65 patients have entered the hospital positive for COVID19 15 didnt leave alive as of 310Tom Douglas multiple James Beard Award winner is closing down 12 of his 13 restaurants only leaving one open because of a contract with a hotel because business is down 90Boeing which was a hot mess with the 737MAX issue to begin with is now losing more orders than it is getting as the airline industry braces for a 70 reduction in air travel At the basement of 911 global air travel was off 40Norweigan Cruiselines headquartered in Seattle has been called out for lying to customers about the safety of their ships their capacity to protect passengers and making it difficult to cancel or reschedule tripsStarbucks has announced they will be limited seating in their stores and ones with drivethru will go drivethru onlyThe Seattle Mariners have moved their home openers out of the area for now my guess is the MLB will follow every other sports league and suspend the start of baseballOur school district has suspended classes until March 27 but my guess is it will go longer Issaquah a town nearby has suspended classes until April 24I was in our nearest grocery store which is a flagship Fred Meyer store Kroger corp and all of the staples aisles were close to empty Beans rice flour pasta Beans about wiped out the only rice I could find was a 5pound bag in the Asian section Only the highend boutique pasta and a few more complex dish pasta like lasagna noodles The Jewish section had some noodles in it and the Asian section still had some ramenThere is no traffic There is an eerie quiet in the air and although the videos of people racing in Costco are entertaining I have not seen anyone running in a store to the TP fights over food or other resources There is this strange calm but I always remind myself that history has shown we are three hot meals and a warm bed away from wanting to kill each otherMy wife has shared some other stories from her work nothing sinister or ominous but nothing I can share and nothing that even if I could I feel ready to shareWe no longer hear about Life Care Center The federal government finally showed up there and now all news has stopped The 70 employees who are all in various states of being sick are still not tested that we know Onethird of our town fire department is now in quarantine If there is anything that gives me the creeps it is this The government showed up and the news stoppedWhen we returned from our trip to Africa on 226 and went through Customs in Seattle there was no screening no questions no testing no sorting of passengers Nothing Welcome back stamp of the passport done The lines werent long and the lack of any form of screening at this Asian gateway was disconcerting It paled in comparison to the strict protocols we went through in Windhoek and Johannesburg and the announcements and questions in Frankfurt What we didnt know at that time is from 219 to 225 12 patients had died at Life Care Center for unknown reasons and the first COVID19 death was on 226The response to the threat at a federal level was nonexistentMy opinionThe Seattle area is about two weeks ahead of most of the United States For those going this is just hype and this is just the flu come fly here and see for yourself I mean flights are cheap and planes are empty Can even offer you a place to sleepno not really but Kirkland has plenty of hotelsThe Seattle area is probably 2 to 3 weeks behind Iran or Italy at this point The tidal wave is coming I believe most in the general public are just in denial about it at this pointIn Italy Coronavirus is killing young and old alike because once you run out of beds once you run out of breathing machines Coronavirus becomes an equal opportunity killer You get pneumonia your lungs fill up you basically drownWhen you can get advanced care your survival odds are very good Once that system falls apart it is first come first serve and how healthy are you A lot of younger Americans are very unhealthy with multiple comorbidity factorsEvergreen Hospital ran out of beds today|0 If you shut down schools the parents of those kids needs to stay at home with them This impacts the medical system and nurses doctors etc that have younger kids Our healthcare system and medical staff are already under massive pressure so this might be counterproductive Also kids arent being affected by Covid19 the same way they are with the regular flu whereas theyre little walking incubators for the regular flu there are very few cases of Covid19 in kids So the decision to shut down schools cant be made lightly without assessing the bigger impact|0 Upvote for Friday the 13th and full moon madness that shit is real i dont care what anyone says|0 Yeah I mean cops have a peripheral understanding of law for this purpose but no problem Carry on your mediocre life of knowing only as much as youre legally mandated|0 I pray to every pantheon of gods that youre correct|1 Do they want healthcare systems in the US to get overwhelmed like Qom and Wuhan Because that seems like a likely outcome to this approach|1 A lot of things are produced in china Pray that we will have sufficient medicine supplies that are instead produced in India|1 Where do I apply Lol|1 They are shoving all faculty into one auditorium for an all day event on Monday We are about 15 mins from Louisiana an hour from NOLA one of the hardest hit states per capita and maybe the most essential port in the US where people and products come and go rapidly out of necessity Not only that but theres a very European approach to life down here and Mardi Gras just concluded Needless to say this area wont do well if things remain as they are With no union for teachers and state law that prevents them from forming the administration isnt too far removed from euthanizing the at risk members of their workforce their family members and themselves their families The level of hubris and stupidity that goes into this situation is sickening I hope you and your are okay through all of this Thanks for sharing your story I know theres an element of fear in speaking about ones employer in times of uncertainty so thanks for speaking up Hopefully more follow your lead|1 It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get tested in LA right now even with visible symptoms This is going to be really bad|0 Same here my friend and if they did close Id have to drive Uber to make money making me more at risk to this|1 i dont give a fuck about trump the virus originated in Wuhan and under the CCPs shitty practices whatever the hell trump did comes AFTER thatpeople in my country are terrified and they are not blaming trump they are pointing the finger to china as they should|0 Take some leave its your life on the line here|0 Right now it is low risk The US is a big country with a third of a billion people There are a handful of cases and known community spread has been concentrated in a relatively small area ILIpneumonia surveillance does not indicate widespread prevalence A lagging indicator but still an indicator The vast majority of cases referred to CDC by public health agencies for testing 97 have been negative And due to CDCs overly strict testing criteria those were the cases most likely to be positive The fact that most of them have been negative is encouragingThere are cultural reasons for thinking it will spread slower here too American social behavior is lowerrisk than many other countries we maintain more personal distance tend not to kiss each other as a casual greeting use less public transit spend our leisure time at home in front of a screen etc We also have fewer smokers and better air quality than China and the other seriouslyaffected countries which might helpThe risk will change over time but right now its pretty low|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Doesnt matter Even smart people could get infected still by following measures as well as they can At some point they have to get groceries or prescriptions An idiot getting infected will affect his or her family work and then from there can affect people they dont even know|0 No problem|0 This is quite funny|1 you got it better to be slow than refuse to see the facts you at least see it now the billboard links to a page with a new link added to the top called Coronavirus which links to a how to prepare for pandemic page which as added on 2520|1 Apparently this will be announced today In BC this rumour is spreadingCOVID19 in Canada There is increasing alignment internationally that the only way to stop COVID19 is to stop people from interacting with one another social distancing The key is to eliminate the ability for the virus to transfer This is the flatten the curve argument youve been hearing for the past couple of days To do this all levels of government are working to take extraordinary measures to keep Canadians safe The federal Cabinet is meeting later today and the Ontario provincial cabinet meets on Monday So far these measures have varied from one province and city to the next We expect those measures to align rapidly into a coordinated approach to ensure effective social distancing What is important to recognize is that most governments are making decisions today for today based on information from today They are planning for a health crisis and severe shortterm economic consequences Medium and longer term economic planning is under active consideration but is subject to real uncertainty as to what measures will be needed when and where Based on what we have seen in other jurisdictions and what weve been hearing from our sources in multiple levels of government heres the direction this is going within days1 Restaurants bars arenas etc will be closed nationwide Only grocery stores pharmacies and anything else deemed essential will remain open to the public 2 Governments will cancel all nonessential medical procedures Ontario has announced this today3 International travel will be shut down Its unclear if that will include the United States 4 Quarantines for those arriving from abroad will become mandatory 5 Governments will pass employment legislation to support income6 Governments will enact emergency legislation directing manufacturers to make ventilators and related medical equipment as there are only 5000 in Canada This has already happened in the UK7 Governments will work with financial institutions to find a way to delay mortgage and loan repayments 8 Governments will announce massive stimulus spendingEmployers are being asked to let everyone who is able to work from home Everyone else who cannot work from home but is deemed nonessential is restricted by the 250 gathering rules In some places like Ottawa no gatherings of any kind are permitted If you take away nothing else from this email take this we are in completely uncharted territory This is a state of emergency whether it has been declared or notBased on this information we recommend that you start making decisions for your businesses and your families accordingly for the next six weeks|0 Yes I understand that Just the 6 tests per day in PA is fake news when youll have 1 million by three end of the week|0 This is just a designated site to quarantine people coming in from the Wuhan area it says it in the article Its nothing special and not for general quarantine as its just reusing an existing facility for temporary housing If FEMA starts building trailer parks and camps then you can start worrying|0 This is the worst announcement so far as a result of Coronavirus Nooooooo|0 Its just the flu bro dont worry out planet is full of idiots and we are all going to be infected because of these dumbasses|0 Yeah certainly It will absolutley explode in certain places soon hard to say where Then in a matter of days it will turn into a crisis|1 Youre confusing aerosol with droplets Unless Theres a state in between droplets and airborne|0 Most people on reddit are mindless drones if they get told that pirating games is bad then thats what they believe|0 that would just be cruel to do to the kids who would for once have a laptop and internet connection just taking it from them when this is all done and over with sSeriously thoughcomcast has this program called internet essentials It gives low income households internet for 10 a month plus you are able to buy a laptop from them for 15000 Absolutely zero excuse as to why they cant close the schools down|0 I was literally just on that subreddit lol|1 Sadly Americans on both sides of the political spectrum only care about the upcoming elections Both Trump and DNC2020 sides are on Twitter tweeting about impeachment 15 or universal health care and acting as if there is no global crisisLooking at twitter I can only SMH|0 My mistake Rest of my post stands We are seing east asia screwed because they are closest to the point of origin We are seeing in Korea what happened previously on the cruise ship and again previously in Wuhan Iran and italy are next followed by the places closest to those hot spots that didnt shut down human movementproperly step up aggressive screening and response or regardless of doing same we have so many asymptomatic carriers and so much shedding early before people realize they are ill that this spreads before it reveals itself Its mild at first so fearbased denial means early symptoms get ignored or excused away We are all going to struggle to do the right thing as nations and it still requires so much individual compliance|0 I was at a forum meeting last week with a doctor from public health and we asked her this she said it depends entirely on your severitypresentation of asthma So I dunno if that helps|1 Im getting buzzed right now to fight through the stress of the last few days This makes me filled with love for the human spirit We will beat this|1 I completely agree with you And I believe a lot of it has to do with money and them not wanting to either spend the money on more expensive N95 masks and have them fit tested for us or there is a shortage of masks and they cant get them so they change the precautions to suit the moment I have seen my hospital switch from buying a unit of something that was 04 cents a unit to the one that was 003 cents per unit Simply to save that much At this point I am questioning why I decided to become a nurse I dont want to put my family at risk and yet to quit my job now would also put my family at risk as we need the paycheck And I doubt they will give us 200 per hour as they did the nurses caring for the Ebola patients So yes I feel stuck Good idea to screenshot things My manager acknowledged there is a discrepancy between WHO and CDC She said WHO is going with droplet and that is safe So even though CDC says airborne we will not be following that It makes me so angry|1 Thats smart Every grocery store should follow|1 Indeed thats my take as well When youre 80 your immune system isnt efficient at all and every bit that damages it more is almost a death sentence The real problem is the strain put on the healthcare system were in constant need of more ICU and subICU beds and machinery Hopefully the peak of cases should come today or tomorrow according to the ISS|0 This is the problem with for profit healthcare As one doctor on reddit succinctly wrote Why have 100 million N95 masks in storage when you can have 300 million invested in the market I recently became distraught from reading rmedicine Most hospitals and ER departments across the country are already rationing or out of N95 masks I believe most doctors are wearing nothing more than a surgical mask To make matters even worse most hospitals are telling employees that if theyre sick or quarantined they have to use PTO and then will not be paid Thus incentivising employees to come to work sick I am very concerned for healthcare workers across the US I fear most of the medical system will collapse Note Those in healthcare please correct me if im wrong regarding what Ive heard|0 150 LOL Id love to live in your world back in 1996|1 Ill simplify as wellYou dont know what he has done other than some remedial skimming I have followed his work for a long time and have seen his resultsOpinions feelings lack of information low information|0 Okay you right|1 I never said I think this is gonna happen lol I really doubt it It was a very extreme if Im not even really worried about widespread in the US much less quarantine round ups|1 Whoa I think that would make it like 20 a pack here Holy crud I thought our prices were bad Im not sure what spin in my choof is but Im assuming its a spliff Australian slang is awesomeWell if theres one good thing the virus did theres probably a ton of people quitting now lol|1 You losely throw around words like catastrophe is my main point Im not saying the data is wrong im just saying youre blowing it out of proportion|0 Yup Many people live pay check to pay check and cant afford to take 2 weeks off|0 If someone is tasked with a job that normally requires 10x the amount of peoplemoney you cant fault them for not being able to do 10 people worth of work|1 Incorrect or upsetting|0 So you think Chinese gov somehow has a magic to filter all posts and take them down and I am not aware of the censorship Its just key words and you can always find a way to post I see too many angry speech and posts against the Chinese gov on Chinese internet everyday during the outbreak Dont be over confident about things you hear rather than witness|0 Do we know how many cases there are What if Im just avoiding the flu Out of line for protecting my health So me wearing a mask makes it ok to cough on me say nasty things to me Ok|0 Wtf The British literally murdered millions of Indians They created a man made famine that killed 4 million people alone They stole 45 trillion dollars in goods In 200 years of colonial rule income per capita collapsed and life expectancy dropped|0 Thanks Good ideasMy work wont yet but Im definitely keeping apprised to be able to act quickly once they do I know people who have been able to and some whose offices are preparing by telling them to take laptops and certain things home nightly I am already more productive at home just wish it were more accepted here|1 That depends because I heard something about a no travel and this includes going to work and store policy My coworker had mentioned that|0 Cant make a profit when your customer base has dwindled|0 That death rate while devastating is trivial compared to the number of critically ill this thing will flood modern ICUs with Then theres reinfection and the shutdown of the economy It will take another 23 months to play out If contact tracing and testing doesnt keep up this wont be stopped|0 You too friend|1 Im going on a trip to the Philippines with a layover in South Korea in May Figured Id stock up on some for my girl friend and I My parents also wanted me to grab a few for them as well|1 Thats my worry were going to have to lose so many people before they get to a point where they worry theyll be held accountable for doing nothing and change their strategy|0 Its not outlawed on eBay but I think it should be along with hydrogen peroxide rubbing alcohol and cleaning supplies Im still reporting them hoping eBay will see and start banning them too|1 The fact that people who are literally too stupid to understand whats going on are making things worse for everyone is so frustrating This would be so much easier to combat if it werent for idiotsThis is why mandatory quarantines have to be enacted in the first place Because people like you cant be trusted and will cluelessly and blissfully spread disease Unfortunately your actions affect other people And since you clearly arent equipped to make decisions you need to trust those that are If someone tells you to quarantine do as your fucking told|0 No one can have a laugh in this thread moderators hate humor But they love when you insult skeptics and treat people like shit Its almost like the CPC|1 While i certainly do not wish it he is right in that current numbers are too few to know any good information about the virus|1 Calling out all the paranoid hypochondriac neck beards causing a shortage|0 yeah San Antonio I think that is what they meant|1 Happy Cake day|1 Right but that only happens if everyone remains quarantined thru the end of time As soon as you try normal life again cases will spike OPs comment is valid and frightening|0 Hi Bill I have another question which I think needs some thought In China where I currently live Alibaba introduced a health code via their Alipay app which is a self answered questionnaire about recent travel and social contacts and it shows a red yellow or green QR code depending on what your status for self isolation or quarantine is and youre required to display it update upon display pretty much everywhereWhy do you think other governmentscountries havent implemented the usage of technology so quickly and on point for this pandemic Do you think its because Alibaba have such a huge market share and could integrate such a homogenous solution quickly or that other countries fear such invasive technology and would consider it a breach of their privacy or something else entirely that Im not thinking of|1 Lolz this sub is going to deteriorate real fast with your level headedness and rational thinking Do you not see that RandyMarsh9001 is right We should burn every witch we see keep personal records of all employers still open and find only opinions to be right as long as they adhere to our own Social justice is da way s|1 Same here well theysome are listening now Even the followers are WOKE all of a sudden Most are all in denial and unprepared|1 5 downvoted lol fear mongers and paranoid morons fuming right now|0 Question about ethanol Is that the same as ethyl alcohol What about isopropryl How is that more superior than Lysol|1 The trajectory for the US as a whole AND for each individual state with enough numbers to be reliable matches the trajectory of ItalySo I dont think Italys cultural differences with the US matter We might more effectively ask what cultural differences we have with South Korea that makes their trajectory different from Italy A lessened stigma about mask wearing in public is one difference|1 There are so many factors that make this shit really bad in China that people arent considering Theyre just looking at numbers and panicking1 As you mentioned the air quality is absolutely awful there already Pollution is a huge problem and a lot of people already suffered respiratory issues as a result Need I remind people they were literally selling canned oxygen to suck air out of just a few years ago2 Population size China is the most densely populated country on the planet next to India Spreading diseases is far easier to do when you are statistically in closer proximity to more people in a small radius in China than in a country like France or America3 People werent just eating whatever meat they could get their hands on for good luck or to get stronger or whatever they did it because its what they could afford to eat There is so much poverty in China that the standard of living is much lower in a lot of places like the slums of Wuhan and its outskirts Many people arent getting enough nutrition vitamins arent drinking enough water arent eating well at all 4 Hospitals are overwhelmed as it is but even if they werent most of them arent outfitted with the best equipment and tools for treatment like most western countries are Not to mention their medical practices arent exactly the greatest I mean you dont go to a GP if you have to go to one you always go to the hospital and no matter what you go in for theyre probably going to stick an IV in you and give you some antibiotics because thats just what they doChina might be a superpower but theyre still playing catchup in a lot of areas with other first world countries in large part due to the sheer size of their population I still stand by my bet that this thing will be handled much much better in most western and firstworld countries as were starting to see now assuming it doesnt somehow spiral out of control and overwhelm the system|1 Then please help all of us by beginning to tell your story in a way that allows people interested in the present emergency to see how the FDA unnecessarily stifles innovation You have a valuable part to play since you can explain that the problem is decades oldIf its all right for me to include a personal note I have felt really lonely trying to get a few people to take their minds off of the CDC Trump and the US medical system long enough to consider the role of the FDA|1 If anyone wants to join to talk about this in a safe platform where we wont have to worry about much censorship feel free to dm me for the discord group on the corona virus|1 Yeah thats just people following the herd and not thinking for themselves|1 Ok|1 Hola italianos estamos pasando por una etapa tremenda nunca hemos imaginado de tener que vivir este infierno sobre todo los enfermos familias y mdicos que son unos valientes luchando da a da para salvar vidas y dar posibilidad de ver el sol a muchas personas es triste tener que aprender de todo esto pero para algo nos servir Dios os salva y al resto del mundo tambin tambin tenemos que entender que todos somos Europa Italia Espaa y otros pases en estos momentos y hay que ser fuete y continuar luchando sin bajar la bandera ya tendremos fiestas carnavales marchas ahora a continuar luchando todos seguimos esta situacin minuto al minuto que sepis solos no estis os amamos y mndanos saludos y fuerza|0 Interesting especially the Italy part I still think this pandemic is just going to transform into a new flu strain here to stay though technically calling it a flu isnt correct I saw CT scans of those with corona virus and those fucking scare me Im a doctor I really dont know what to think this could go either way a slow worldwide pandemic or one that fizzles out come spring and summerIn the end this is a wake up call for us to rethink travel on a global level and a way for us to get rid of the disgusting dependency on China|0 But that would mean the President of the United States is a liar|0 Did we watch the same movie I dont think that happened in Contagion|0 This is great news And we make it domestically Polan stronk|1 Trump already said he isnt going to get tested And is immune Besides he prayed to GOD Ok So you know he is good right|1 I think the problem is that all the time there are people who are seeing various risks emerging from mile away but many of those risks do not turn to be a big deal after allAbsolutely not Theres a difference between being concerned about a scary but very improbable event like say a hypothetical meteor strike and being concerned about a scary not only plausible but likely event This was never doomsay Epidemiologists were voicing their concerns from day 1 The concern for the COVID19 outbreak is based on an accumulation of various factors that weve been aware of since January 21st1 This virus is completely new2 China already had cases long before even acknowledging the existence of the virus and failed to take any preventative measures to contain it at that time3 By nature of its government China has been sharing little to no information about the viruss spread and we have no idea how much of the information provided is accurate in the first place there were plenty of conflicting claims and videos that surfaced online4 People can spread the virus asymptomatically5 This virus emerged during flu season6 This virus emerged during a time when mobility particularly of Chinese people was extremely high7 We saw how horrible it went in China the country that was most prepared for this outbreak because of their experience with SARS8 We have known for years that our governmentshttpswwwnatointdocureviewarticles20071001analysisisnatoreadyforaninfluenzapandemicindexhtml arehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv6Af6bwyiwI incompetenthttpswwwcgdevorgblogitspasttimewepreparenextpandemic athttpswwwtheglobeandmailcomopinionarticlewillwebepreparedfordiseasexthenextpandemic containinghttpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthfluwhoworldmustprepareforinevitablenextflupandemicwhosaysidUSKBN1QS1EP virushttpswwwtheguardiancomglobaldevelopment2019sep18adeadlyviruscouldkill80millionpeopleinhoursexpertswarn outbreakshttpswwwforbescomsitesjudystone20191212howpreparedareweforthenextpandemicnotveryexpertsshow7f5f73dc3524I understand if you naively shrugged this virus off in the beginning because weve been completely desensitized to virus outbreaks but please dont brush this off as sheer bad luck This is a result of lackluster governing that prioritizes the certainty of short term profit over ensuring long term stability and human welfare Governments were not unaware of how this could go wrong They just hoped it wouldnt and built their guidelines around that assumption Its extremely easy to take preventative measures that will otherwise eventually have to be taken but to a more extreme extent with more damages and deaths anyway This is common sense If you dont take measures to prevent an infectious virus from spreading it spreads Thats how viruses workAnd even if this outbreak were not to have escalated into a pandemic it makes no sense whatsoever to even consider taking the high risk of global disorder|0 Empathy is great but it doesnt create more of a good or serviceIf everyone is well compensated then no one is well compensated|1 Im fine Whatever it was cleared up around the end of January|1 Because management doesnt trust employees Thinks theyre a bunch of liars thanks to those who are|0 Lets all join hands and pray it away actually dont touch my hands I dont want corona virus|1 Be aware of mandatory waiting periods in some states I wouldnt wait|1 Why You think there isnt a guard at the ER for the occasional violent addictdrunkmental patientHow is keeping the nurses and doctors safe worrying|0 Yes That is also malpractice unless the doctors are showing they are asking for the tests but cannot get them Which circles us back to how messed up it is we cannot test people|0 Huffington Post Left Wing HA Liberal Sure Neoliberal as any Merican Left Wing You dont know the meaning son|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Thats gutwrenching man This post needs upvotes There were 2606 deaths in 911 I believe so far nCoV is up to 1669 reported Awareness and hopefully we grow from this as a species|1 Phenolic disinfectants 70 ethanol and diluted bleach are standard in containment environments Phenolic disinfectants and 70 ethanol being preferable due to the caustic nature of bleach Im very curious about this military surplus get up tbh A lot of biocontainment PPE is pretty cheap except for the air purification units which are not always necessary|1 I dont think we will have that many test kits in two weeks As I understand it theres not an easy and simple test that can be done yet|0 Fun fact for those who dont follow the eSport Scene in League of Legendsx200Bdue to the coronavirus the LPL chinese League paused their games for about 2 months The LPL decided to continue the games onlinex200BThe LCK korean League in which Faker plays paused their games since last week for an indefinite time x200BSo its a really good move to spend against the coronavirus that eSports Sports and everything doesnt get affected in the future by it|1 Got a wedding to go to in early Maywaiting for them to cancel|0 Taiwan is subtropical they still have winters that gets pretty cold for a while Singapore is warm to hot year round|1 Yesterday Sunday 3820 was not a ghost town in downtown Seattle Lots of tourists and elderly out and about Today is looking better but yikes|1 Fair take I agree I didnt think wed hear about it either|1 I bet youre fun at partiesGive the guy a break he put more contaminants on that entire desk by speaking than he did by playfully touching some audio equipment Regardless he shouldnt be scorned for life|1 the airlines have already crashed though If you look at the airports now they are empty very few people compared to normal time thousands of flights cancelled as is others kept from contractual obligation actually grounding all the commerical airplanes would be less costly than keep them flying with 4 people on board im not even exaggerating a coworker flew from frankfurt 4 people in entire plane outside of staff|0 And the family hospital and possibly federal gov will suefine you into oblivion if a patient dies due to some part failure or design flaw|0 I literally posted this exact post a month ago and people basically trolled on the post saying I was shitposting i agree with you man|1 They should bc search firms are using every bit of data they can get to find good professorsHad a family member that taught some classes at a small college for 3 semesters while applying for PhD level jobs Few months after accepting a job in the medical field she was contacted by a state university a few states away A search firm had discovered her based off overwhelmingly positive student reviews and recommended her for their search She declined the interview due to already having a job but later told me that university was offering 3 times more than what the small college had been paying her|1 Maybe its working exactly to plan People are basically begging for extra measures and hardly anyone is saying they have overreacted When the government do implement more extreme measures which they will people will be totally on board with it|0 Had to google that Now I know what you mean We did have it as an option later down the line Thankfully nearly all his stomach issues are now pretty much resolved and its just an odd occasion every few months rather than daily However if it returned it would be something we would consider Thank you|1 Yeah But i am a medical student|1 the entire translation is a mess|0 Its down right ridiculous|0 This is sadly true my friends are talking about the cheap hotel prices and air fare trying to take a tripit nuts|1 The darkest timeline|0 It is an effective position This from a retired ICU nurse The majority of coronavirus patients will never be cared for in the hospital setting What this is teaching is a way of helping someone struggling to breathe at home Elevating the head of a bed eases the work of breathing It may not be totally effective dt severity of the virus but it is not harmful and is worth trying It can also be used as a comfort measure to make a dying patient more comfortable This may be your only medical contribution to their care but it may also provide some emotional comfort that you did everything you could possibly do for your loved one|1 2 is happening right Industry national governments and international organizations should work together to enhance internationally held stockpiles of medical countermeasures MCMs to enable rapid and equitable distribution during a severe pandemic|0 Are human and animal immune systems very different from one another I wonder why I mean we come in contact with similar compounds and things on this planet And we are mammals as well|1 Donald Trump and several White House staff and several CDC officials need to all be held criminally liable for this gross negligence that is costing hundreds of lives currently but potentially tens of thousands or even more lives|0 If you do not understand the field of human behaviour or the field of economics Do not comment about it This is your personal biased unfounded opinion|0 I dont understand what was the reason for refusing the order|0 Good job|1 For what age Also do you have a source for those numbers Context is really important here httpswwwmarketwatchcomstorycoronavirusfatalityratesvarywildlydependingonagegenderandmedicalhistorysomepatientsfaremuchworsethanothers20200226Here male mortality rate is listed as 28 and female as 17 However it is also pointed out that this is from a chinabased study where apparently half of men smoke and only 2 of women do There are lots of speculations facts and numbers floating around everywhere many of them true for what they say they are but when you read them in some random article and then give them importance than they should have we could have false views of whats really happening or whats going to happen And I dont think a single soul out there truly has all the information on this|1 Germanys healthcare system is one of the best in the world They have 28000 ER units ready More than globally currently used for Covid 19|1 I think the problem being so many people will take the piss with this and use it as an excuse to pull a weeks sickie I think business owners and bosses will have protocols to stick to with regards self certifying etc Its down to you at the end of the day if you feel you should self quarantine then you probably have to make that call yourself|0 Its okay baby your boyfriend will never know|1 Yeah thats a more realistic worry but the economy isnt just going to tank I doubt if youre quarantined in your homeapartment that you will get evicted If things got bad Im sure the govt would pay for utilities or issue credits or something Do you have neighbors you like or family nearby If things got bad you look to your local community If youre in this situation plenty of other people will be too and tens of thousands of people arent going to just be dropped onto the street|0 90 of these people partying in Florida will go home this weekend after Spring Break Every state in the US needs to be worried about them taking it back to their home states with them|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Its just dumb wiping ur ass instead of using water Pff|0 Both extremes are exceedingly annoying to deal with but Ill take in the box thinking over the everything I do is correct and validated because Im me mentality 9 times out of 10 In a weird way most Japanese are more open minded or at least tolerant than many other nationalities in general|0 NYC here I listened to the live press coverage with our mayor yesterday and he basically said that hes going to keep schools open until the last teacher dies obviously not verbatim haha But yes due to nearly 10000 kids who are homeless andor depend on the school system for food|1 My friend lives in the Appalachians education there is rough|1 I went to the Costco Near Bradenton this morning It was stocked to the gills I have a feeling it wont be like that next weekend|0 My city can easily hit 31 degrees on a normal day On a sunny day with no clouds easy 40 Here 23 is a breeze|1 Well somebody finally thought it out and realized how good information is key to keep the panic down and lots of people trust the New York Times and the Washington Post|1 Weird|0 80 years old 2197079 years old 806069 years old 365059 years old 134049 years old 043039 years old 022029 years old 021019 years old 0209 years oldno fatalitiesDeath Rate number of deaths number of cases probability of dying if infected by the virus The percentages do not have to add up to 100 as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age groupIn general relatively few cases are seen among childrenSourcesThe Epidemiological Characteristics of an Outbreak of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Diseases COVID19 China CCDC February 17 2020 Report of the WHOChina Joint Mission on Coronavirus Disease 2019 COVID19 Pdf World Health Organization Feb 28 2020Assuming you have no health issues are a normal weight no lung conditions you have roughly according to this data two tenths of one percent of a chance of dying if you catch it 100 of people will not get it Estimates vary wildly from 20 to 40 to 70 So literally a 998 chance of survival It can kill and has killed young people but its fairly rare Someone has to be the unlucky one in thousand sometimes and sometimes young people have undiagnosed congenital issues that make them surprisingly weak but again thats not common|0 make sure you got some candles and flashlightsbatteries too just in case are you on the west coast the virus seems to be present there|1 The only real unconfirmed source is the CCP virtually everyone else is more trustworthy|1 Well all small children Im not picky|1 The incubation period is not 30 daysIm pretty sure those were outliers due to some type of contamination Midway through|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Keep calm and carry on|1 seems like there is a superspreader thats not known yet but people keep blaming the 31st patient only lmao|1 Wow this is great thank you|1 France has an acknowledged outbreak and theyre not testing unless you need hospitalization and even then theyre reluctant to do it|0 Ive heard so many good news these last couple of months They last a few weeks then it turns out it wasnt true|1 I think you got Nepals number wrong|0 Very unlikely SARS passed relatively quickly and stopped being an issue and there probably wasnt enough clinical data after the first wave|0 So then there is no such thing as a Christian then Literally no Christian follows the Bible Eat pork Sin Be a woman and dont let your husband rape you Sin Work as a woman Sin Dont murder women who have sex before marriage Sin Think being gay is ok Sin Dont beat your children Sin These are all things in the Bible yes the child beating thing too and PLENTY more If thats what it means to be a true Christian than true Christianity is the most disgusting thing to be apart of and you should be ashamed|0 I mean if they dont contain the virus businesses are going to get fucked anywaysThis is a health crisis first If we solve the health crisis we will solve the economic crisis|0 To be fair the threat to children is essentially nil AFAIK there still isnt a death below 9 worldwide Obviously still needs to be considered but its not as bad as if it were a hospital catered to the elderly for example|1 I honestly would But then theyd pull in the other guy on my team that has 2 kids and an elderly mother he cares for and I dont want to fuck him over Its ridiculous that Im even having to make this choice|1 wronghttpsonlinelibrarywileycomdoipdf101002jmv25728If the neuroinvasion of SARSCoV2 does take a part in the development of respiratory failure in COVID19 patients the precaution with masks will absolutely be the most effective measure to protect against the possible entry of the virus into the CNS It may also be expected that the symptoms of the patients infected via facaloral or conjunctival route will be lighter than those infected intranasally The possible neuroinvasion of SARSCoV2 may also partially explain why some patients developed respiratory failure while others not It is very possible that most of the persons in Wuhan who were the first exposed to this previously unknown virus did not have any protective measure so that the critical patients is much more in Wuhan than in other cities in China|0 Thats not entirely true the CDC has infectious disease specialist that you cant necessarily find at every state level needed so like the FBI they need to be able to call in the more wellfunded and welleducated staff of infectious virus specialist Plus without a strategy and policy and guidance how the hell are the states all going to come up with a plan that makes sense especially when none of the experts around the entire world have been alive for any kind of Big Boy pandemic and if they were that was kind of an entirely different worldThere really havent been a lot of pandemics for people to actually be educated in pandemics in modern society You had a couple flu pandemics that were probably not as serious as this virus and they were like 60 years agomor more and then you have the Spanish Flu which was about a hundred years ago |0 That last bit was published as a Telegraph article 2 weeks ago I think Either you allow the virus to run rampant but the country keeps functioning and its over quicker or you quarantine everyone and everything grinds to a halt for a long time|1 Wow yeah it didnt occur to me that some of these panic buyers are going to be smug about it like they had actual foresight rather than just being reactionary and might be proud that they managed to go out and buy the last five packs of toilet paper in their area yesterday and stood in line for an hour with a population that is probably I fear about 10 infected already|1 It actually got spread from Kansas all the way to Spain The world wasnt even as connected as it is today History doesnt look favourably on the ability of the US to contain outbreaks|1 What would you recommend we do|1 Nice bitch that got this bitch ass|0 Its not that bad It was stupid but he obviously had no idea that he or anyone in the room had the virus|0 Even that will I think cause panic Eg Next week there are 300 people with it but we wont tell you where next Friday or whenever all those three hundred were in Leeds queue Leeds turning into a clusterfk Next week there are 3000 cases but we wont tell you where queue entire country turning into a clusterfk the Friday after oh they were all in Leeds too|0 Were not testing suspected cases or contact tracing any moreDont be silly were still testing and in greater numbers than at any point previous And weve still done more tests than most other countries in the world Were not taking any of the precautions other countries areI note that most other countries in Europe have over taken us in their numbers of cases Whatever theyre doing hasnt worked whatever were doing has worked Were not admitting anyone who isnt dangerously unwell Overwhelmed hospitals are dangerous hospitals so lets not swamp them with cases that can be dealt with in other ways|1 No regard for their classmates that might be immunocompromised or have underlying health conditions What about their parents and grandparents|0 He already tried blaming the Obama administration the other night for us not being prepared for this wwwtwittercomatruparstatus1235243899674939392|0 Great news for me bad news for little guy as it still is annoying AF|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Dr Evil|0 I agree stacking Coronavirus on top of regular flu could be a disaster But this particular report that there are snot nosed kids at school is not relevant unless theres evidence that there are an unusually high number of snot nosed kids at school|0 Would it help of I asked Because I am asking The customers will be there Ramp up production now|1 Too little too late for stopping spread and this will kill the markets It will make economic dislocation worse|0 Ill take the over I dont see Wa state too|0 It is actually a relief to see so many others finally taking this seriouslyI no longer feel like a tin foil hat guy|1 You sound stupid What measures will you go to just to makesave a buck Put others in danger Hate people like you|0 The change only affects shipments to Amazons warehouses not the lastmile deliveries to consumersIf you order something that is shipped from Amazon you should be fine|1 Our people are similar to people from other countries we also have anti vaxxer people want old traditions back neo Naziracist shithead people that believe in weird conspiracy Also narrow minded and opened minded Chinese people are so similar to those in America|0 I believe I said UNOligarchsIs China part of the UNAre there oligarchs who associate with ChinaBoth yes|1 Only in Seattle so they are taking care of their employees |1 Was everyone kung flu fighting|0 Not at all The issue is not the people of the UK They deserve better than what they are getting Supporting this governments approach will do more harm to people in the UK and deprive more people around the world from a chance to overcome this threat by eating up resources that would be better used elsewhere while not contributing to the containment efforts of the rest of the world If you feel so strongly you should put your efforts into changing the approach or changing the governmentIts almost like the herd has moved in one direction and the UK is going off in the opposite direction towards the predatorName calling and ad hominem attacks dont help your argument|0 Its not like the economy does things like keep electricity food water internet going or anything|0 Thishttpsmultimedia3mcommwsmedia1793959Ocleaninganddisinfecting3mreusablerespiratorsfollowingpotentialexposuretocoronavirusespdf is 3Ms technical bulletin on disinfecting 3M halfmask respiratorsThe recommended 5000 ppm active chlorine can be calculated herehttpswwwpublichealthontariocaenhealthtopicsenvironmentaloccupationalhealthwaterqualitychlorinedilutioncalculator But for sake of ease if your bleach is 525 sodium hypochlorite to make 1 liter of 5000 ppm active chlorine you need a 19 dilution 1 part bleach 9 parts waterBleach used to be 525 now most of its 6 so use 110 if its 6 and 114 if its the industrial stuff at 8 sodium hypochlorite|1 Be careful what you wish for I got tested today and they stick a plastic stick all the way up your nose Its not pleasantHowever it is necessary and its over very quickly|1 We can trust China|1 Lmao its a little more than that|1 Those Mongolians feel pretty smug right about now|1 Much worse|0 I live in Virginia not far away I dont go outside unless I have toI took my kids to a local playground today There were 8 kids there We drove to the playground counted 8 kids and drove home No one left the car If the playground had been empty I would have let the kids blow off steamBefore that trip I schooled them on 6 feet|0 The Italian outbreak happened in a hospital as well |1 Germany still has unser 1500 cases with the lowest death rate of all|0 Only able to verify as correct and true to the best of knowledge and understanding are materials presented in the Global Cases by Country Region charts from 05FEB20 through to the 07MAR201334UTC edition shown above While trusting sources it is also assumed they are not infallible Hence the two line items Reported Totals Calculated Totals added for cause and because core intent is to provide factual information Invite you to examine these materialshttpsoldredditcomrnCoVwikiindexwikiaboutr2Fncov regarding other materials excluding comments offered on rnCoV|1 Thats literally the Chinese did Initially I thought everyone was worrying too much But now I can see how too much has helped to being the spread to bascially a halt|0 Sorry but its a game of supply and demand this guy was smart and people want to crucify him Hes looking out for himself and his family chasing the american dream They do that shit with gas But either way he donated and that means something|0 its an economic death spiral but hopefully not an actual one|1 The thing is this virus is ADE which means you cant get immune It stays in your body|0 Lolno For rich people politicians and celebrities|1 I wish I had money to give you gold As it is I can only give my UP vote|1 The aftereffects like mass unemployment and societal collapse I just have no will to live|0 coming from an international trip and end up hugging up the fellows We like them They like us We hugAww|1 My roommates notgirlfriend was coughing on Saturday and complaining that she couldnt breathe I feel not very reassured|0 Except thats not what happened a woman refused to be tested and went to a wedding and churchcult service|0 The thing is I want to get paid if my coworkers and I start rallying together then well just stay home and i have a mortgage to pay|1 Yes its the same with him and his arthritis He can go about a month without biologics before he flares badly but it resolves quickly when he restartsThe UC is new diagnosed last year and its only just getting under control Im super reluctant for him to go back to how he was when it first flared up Definitely listening to his doctors about it But I really cant imagine saying to stop unless he gets COVID19 of courseBut honestly Im worried that if he stops the biologics hell end up in the hospital And thats the last place I want any of us to be ifwhen COVID19 is circulating widelyEdit clarity|1 Hey do you think people with no healthcare should try to work anyway if they have the covid19 virus|0 Do you have a church or community food bank Many times you can get an emergency food box without an applicationStart container gardening You can get seeds for cheap get zucchini because its easy to grow and you will get lots Tomatoes are another good choice Start in the house move outside in warm weather Also look into sprouts lije beans or radishesGet creative Dont think the only way to get food is to buy it|1 We dont shut stuff down for the flu|0 I personally use steel wool for things like dishes scrubbing potatoes and cleaning the bathroom Obviously I dont want to use the same one for all these jobs lol and while they can be cleaned and reused if you re trying to keep a reasonably sterile environment then youll want to be discarding them more frequently than usual|1 According to UC San Diego hospital officials were informed by San Diego Public Health that four patients being evaluated for the virus tested negative At the direction of the CDC all four individuals were discharged and sent back into quarantine at MCAS Miramar The hospital says the CDC later advised public health officials that upon further testing one of the four patients tested positive for coronavirusthat they initially tested negative is the real issue here either the tests arent good enough or the person caught it while in quarantine or were going to have a serious problem on our hands with a disease in which some people who have it test negative anyway|0 Thank you for this sub|1 Yeah probably poor word choice however a retrospective study would be informational and I believe that may be the word needed in this context|0 Unless you have a serious health risk you should consider getting carbs Rice pasta etc Otherwise youre gonna have to stock up on meat to freeze spam butter canned fish Not sure how long you can last that way|0 The outcome is largely based on whether you can preserve the capacity of your health system to deal with the cases We now have 3 different proof points China Singapore South Korea that appear to demonstrate that early decisive action can change the course of the spread And in two of those cases it means that you can bring the best treatment to bear on your patients dramatically reducing the case fatality rate South Koreas case fatality rate is still up in the air 6 but their number of daily cases appears to be declining at least Outside of Hubei province China has now posted zero deaths in WHOs published numbers yesterday indicating the numbers are pretty much in now If you do the calculations their case fatality rate is around 87 They are bringing the best possible care to bear on this thing lots of ECMO machines for example but it shows what you can do if you preserve your health capacity But that means decisive interventions BEFORE your numbers show you have a major problem We have to act now even with incomplete information and without waiting for consensus Canadians should be calling for this Every day of delay will cost lives|1 Just not any other science Like I dunno Copying other successful countries science|1 Can you finish the question What is it that only boomers need to stop doing|0 Im half hopeful we will see some genuine proactive measures because of this|1 What medical advice Im saying that if doctors in China are finding vitamin C useful it appears to be in the official guidelines from Shanghai that means the patients dying are probably deficient in vitamin C It is simple logic If someone quotes that mechanical ventilation helps and speculates it is because the patients are having trouble breathing is that medical advice|1 Just had an email from my contractor company looks like all theyll offer in this time is 14 days paid only if you have to self isolate No mention of if you happen to be one of the people who is at risk who also happens to work|0 I hear Venezuelas great|1 Yeah good question|1 Suburb of Cleveland here Glad to see my State kicking ass|0 Theres nothing we can do though You can isolate yourself but that 1 time you go out to get toothpaste you get it from touching something|0 httpswwwwashingtonpostcomworldasiapacificcoronaviruschinaupdates2020022272dd19de54ea11eab1194faabac6674fstoryhtmlHere is one of many reports that states there are patients although maybe more scarce but do exist who dont show symptoms until long after the 14 day period Yes 14 will cover most of them but all it takes is one person to make it through the quarantineYou can find at least one of these reports from credible scientists and doctors for each country that has been hit hard some of them have quite a few|1 I think the virus is already bad enough as it is and yet people seem to be most worried about it becoming even badder through mutations also super unlikely btw or aftereffects and the like Isnt it weird how we all worry about different things though I am mostly worried about infrastructural or even societal collapse probably extremely unlikely especially in Switzerland where I live Sometimes I wonder what these fears tell us about ourselves and then I think I probably just watched too many disaster movies|0 This is the problem We use schools as daycareAlso you are in school not kindergarden You can stay home alone on your own Everyone in my class went home on their own since second grade and we waited for parents to come back We grew up fine|0 Thank you for the link|1 So useless but so cool but so useless|0 Well it doesnt even matter how serious it is The hospitals have been full for weeks regardless of the seriousness There are obviously an enormous amount of people dying in their homes|1 TBH while this virus is extremely dangerous in its potential we also have the greatest amount of resources put towards defeating it in human history x200BThere are hundreds of billions of dollars on the line for whoever is the first to get a cure 100s of years of scientific advancement is going against the virus at the speed of light and im fairly confident a solution will be developed in a few months|1 Its been spreading like wildfire We just turned the lights on|1 Nah hell have private healthcare Plenty of us in the UK do anyway|0 I love this guy I feel like hes someone that can be trusted to simply be honest He titles his videos with the days date with no special preview images and they still get hundreds of thousands of views because hes that good Hes not trying to dramatise things to get more attention but he also wont downplay things He just goes over all the new information and explains it in an honest and balanced way|1 who set a hospital on fire Nice dudes|1 It was actually just something dr John Campbell said to be honest when he was talking about the L and S strain of the virus|1 Fucking stupid cunt|0 From the supply perspective yes Problem is that an improperly used mask can increase your risk of infection especially when reused|1 Our intelligence agencies are the best in the world The very best we have experts working on these day and night working very smart to protect American interests|1 oh lucky I was only at Shoppers this weekend and it was sold out there|1 Harassment will now result in a permanent mute so I think thats taken care of|0 Thats an overly simplistic diagnosis Theres a lot more to it There are so many pieces to the cost of medical care that we cant possibly offer any true allencompassing solution here Just one portion of the equation is drug prices which itself has probably a dozen different contributing factors that make them expensive Realistically unless you have a valid plan to demolish the entire healthcare system and rebuild it from scratch were talking everything from how med school works to the societal cultureperception that Doctors should be rich the cost of healthcare is what it is|1 Ill take the DV as a NO Thanks|0 Been following the news since it broke watching it spiral out of control Hoping it wouldnt but fully aware that it easily could And here we are|1 Well it couldnt hurt to take it if you can tolerate it following the directions of course IF the sequelae of the disease results from the exponential peak of the virus in the body and you can decompress that you might ameliorate the the impact shorten the courseAND reduce infectiousness perhaps Buy Zycam stock|1 People may tell you to stop pushing politics but imo its going to important to know who has a plan for what is likely the defining event of the next few years|1 Not entirely sure that hes one of the good guys There have been some pretty persistent unpleasant rumours about him for a long time|1 yeah man they have downvoting bot army its crazy|0 Best laid plans|1 Youre talking about a claim made by the guy who thought nukes could stop hurricanes and who drew a line on a map with sharpie to make it look like he wasnt lyingNothing is going to stop that claim but it not happening|0 Yeah I have zero sinus issues Just slight itchy throat with slight cough low grade recurring fever some achiness and soreness I live in HoustonTX Unfortunately we cannot be tested We have to directly have been in contact with a confirmed case or have traveled We have some confirmed cases showing community spread but even so We also both worked in service up until today and may have well been exposed No PCP or insurance either People are calling their PCP who are telling them to go straight to the hospital to try to get tested but the hospitals wont test unless youre in severe condition or meet the criteria aboveEdit also my actual throat is just aching Its not sore like a sore throat just like the actual windpipe aches to touch|0 Most of my year are fucked then I might or might not be because whilst I may not be in peak physical health or condition my immune systems still decent|0 Same here we can definitely take our laptops and work from home But they havent said anything|1 This is the second time China has caused something like this They shut down the wet markets for a year then open them back up once people forgetdont care arent paying attention People blasted China for fake numbers early in the outbreak but now the US is in the same situation and responding the same way But now China gets praised|1 If we can seee these methods employed as a drivethru how can we not employ this to drive economic growth on aviation and cruising Eg mandatory testing to ensure you are clear before passing TSA or port authorities to board planes and cruise ships I would certainly feel better about either if this was mandatory It would be effective if the diagnostic tests were improved to include a quicker turnaround time Ive seen published studies indicating a panther system with a potential 35 hour turnaround from sample to results|1 I was referring to the comment nurses are underpaid and I said teachers are too Geez Im not disagreeing with that at all They are underpaid and overworked Nurses are the front line for sure doctors second They do more than doctors unless its surgery|1 My intention was to help not to annoy Sorry|1 But if she was worried then when she got back from Italy she should have stayed home If she gave that to other people and something happens to them its on her|0 You could say the same thing of the Spanish flu in 1918 it had 23 mortality At least 97 survived yet worst pandemic of the last 100 years COVID19 is approximately 2 Lets find some citations so you look even dumber The World Health Organization estimates that 23 of those who were infected died casefatality ratio51 It is estimated that approximately 30 million were killed by the flu or about 17 of the world population died52 Other estimates range from 17 to 55 million fatalities5354555657httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSpanishfluAroundtheglobe|0 Sorry I guess I wasnt clear What I mean is contagion only starts 48 hours before symptoms according to the WHOhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusesituationreports20200306sitrep46covid19pdfsfvrsn96b04adf2httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusesituationreports20200306sitrep46covid19pdfsfvrsn96b04adf2fbclidIwAR0BPMA533YuvzesASTojKPOeq7y8gwXSDR9FXT7nKZ9fuIbZ2WLcKdW0 while we are learning that there are people who can shed COVID19 virus 2448 hours prior to symptom onset at present this does not appear to be a major driver of transmission |0 He could totally survive the virus Its by no means a straight up death sentence for old people|0 Smokers in China are actually less likely to develop into severe cases After that the mortality is about the same as others but it is lower overall than nonsmokers A little unexpected but that is what the studies are showing The WHO official noted that as well yesterday|0 Haha this is exactly the problem fucking hell|0 I agree with this message|1 I love this sentiment because its like one country bombs plus assists others bombing your country So you watch like your sister and her daughter crushed under this rubble because a couple assholes live near by Then you go online and theres this one person from that country sayin chin up people I wanted to let you know were friends Then they throw the piece sign up while microwaving some hot pockets and you go back to a hospital to check on your little brother in critical condition knowing that some of the people bombing you want to be friends|1 wasnt there like only a dozen of people who had actually been reinfected Compare that to the 8000 people who were infected i think that is a very rare case|0 expresscouk news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Iran has mass graves Im willing to bet China does too|0 This is exactly how its going to spread so good luck with that excuse This is food FOOD HANDLING With a cough so bad no matter what you shouldnt be dealing with FOOD|1 0 in Reading Even though there was a case a few days ago Is it now 0 because of that death Hmm|0 This is indeed good news Im hoping China America and the rest of the world are sharing their knowhow and what they learned from those who recover and those who do not We need to connect on the basis of humanity and defeat this virus We dont need to be Chinese Iranian American Italian or any other things now I hope all the clinical trials around the world are in the public domain and whatever treatment is discovered it is shared with the world instantly and all the pharmacompany start mass producing it instantly|1 What I meant is that if he had a normal bp before the illness and he got it elevated just now because of stress or if he had a history of elevated bp High bp patients are supposed to be at risk but this man had it rather mild even though he had a high bp So I wonder if patients with high bp that is a result of stress are in the same risk as patients with a history of high bpI dont know if I am explaining it well and it may be a stupid question to ask And I know it is just one patient and it means nothing statistically but |0 Factual nothing against the chinese Theyre just retarded for letting something like this happen again|0 Keep fighting|0 As a mom of 5 children I remember the amazing Peri bottles given at the hospital to spray warm water to that sensitive area after giving birth I bought a 3 pack on Amazon for almost nothing I probably wont have to use them but they werent expensive and I dont have to install a bidet to use them|1 Realistically you could use eitherexcept we also know for certain that folks whove had SARS and recoveredarent carrying virus D Theres some questions on how long people with COVID19 shed virus after recovering were still trying to sort out and could even impact how long quarantines would be necessary Its not uncommon for some viruses to shed even after youve recovered from illness as an aside Ebola is known to remain in bodily fluids for six months after recovery and there ARE supremely unlucky people whove essentially caught Ebola as an STDKnowing youre not risking viral reintroduction if a patient recently recovered is still shedding virus would be the main advantageof course if it turns out that the body stops shedding COVID19 after a relatively short period after recovery that would open up having folks whove recovered from COVID19 after a safe period being able to be donors for production of serumThe bad news here is that a safe period is probably going to be something like six months after youve recovered andwellCOVID19 hasnt been around that long at least not documented to be around that long so finding people whove recovered from SARS who are medically eligible to donate is probably going to be easierOne other reason you might not want folks whove recently recovered from COVID19 donatinga LOT of clinical trials are ongoing with folks who have COVID19 and in general having recently been in a clinical trial disqualifies you from donating plasma D|1 Comparison between distribution of Italian and Korean caseshttpstwittercommarkwbystatus1238867143363567616s21 I think this graph and the respective mortality rates speak for themselves|1 Redditors always acting like a jailhouse Judge Dredd Its pretty embarrassing tbh|1 oh I misunderstood sorry NvmYeah I agree everybody will have to help Itll be interesting to see the approaches to this done by different countries|1 Man I wish bidets were a widespread thing in the US|1 No worries Its from the government official page httpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublic|0 Polish student from one of the Medical Universities here Authorities told people living in the dorms to leave them till 8pm because this will be the place for people in quarantine Seems like they know that selfquarantine isnt working here|1 Real numbers are starting to come in Just the 3 deaths on the diamond princess out of 691 infected makes this about 4 times more deadly than the flu and the R0 of 46 makes it something like thousands of times more contagious Im just looking forward to someone posting memes that show accurate outside of the Hundred Acre Wood data|0 And we took the piss out the Chinese for their 40000 person buffet The west is proving it can do better|1 This guy fucking sucks|0 True however if the schools are shut will all the teachers be willing to either take government sick pay like everyone one else in the population not full pay and if not help with the frontline jobs Shutting schools will only take important people away from frontline nhs jobs|0 Blessed my day |1 Is this super strength flu or something Would normal flu infect nearly 100 That cruise ship was bad too|0 I am not quite sure this is a racist action or stupid one|0 In Phoenix school and Little League cancelled Getting distance learning info and guide sent to us next week I guess the Costco we use has been wiped out pretty good Went to the local grocery store and frozen goods meats and nonperishables pretty picked through or gone However not demolished There were still options and things to buy Spoke to a women in the parking lot looking for a cart as it was pretty busy she was older maybe late 60s early 70s she was from the Mesa She said it was her 4th grocery store looking for Tylenol and toilet paper And it made me think about the panic shopping Heres a women at high risk that shouldnt be out at all and she went to 4 very busy grocery stores in search of stuff that are basic needs I recommended Staples or Office Max cause I know they sell those things as office supplies but I hope she found what she was looking for Seems like ppl are still going out to eat around here but not near as busy as it should be|1 CDC has some major issues The problem is that they are the ones briefing Trump not the UC Davis doctorsThis is what happens when you get too much bureaucracy|0 If youre not pro trump and want M4A youre definitely a democrat Welcome to the center|1 Tampa area hand sanitizer has been out everywhere for days This morning Walmart had a small quantity of travel sized Purell I resisted the urge to be greedy and bought 6 there were about 50 bottles in the bin No limits yet Publix has imposed 2item limits for hand sanitizer which they dont have anyway and wipes which they have intermittently|1 Hard to even get a mouse slowly the inventory has been depleted Laptops are hand to mouth prices are you 15 in the last month|0 Havent been able to find a single bottle in weeks here Even hard to find alcohol and aloe to make your own|0 We already have multiple reports of people having recovered and fallen ill again after a week or two This is not going away any time soon|0 Your symptoms just overlap with this kidsThe 10yearold boys lungs were also scanned on the insistence by the nervous parents and showed signs of infection which was confirmed by swabs of the back of his nose and throat That meant he was capable of transmitting the virus even though the kind of tests used in airport screening for the virus would not identify him as a carrierhttpswwwbloombergcomampnewsarticles2020012910yearoldboyraisesfearswuhanviruscouldspreadundetectedtwitterimpressiontrue|1 Very true I know several people whove already left for the DC area despite the fact that the entire republican leadership is already exposed and running around the capitol The entire 95 northeast corridor is closely linked and will have a huge burden The other states and cities however likely have better bed per capita ratios than a city like NYC That said restaurants and bars still had plenty of patrons as of yesterday Unfortunately New Yorkers are stubborn and highly social people This is going to be hard to contain here|1 The guy is being honest The Chinese are still part communist and can do a full month lockdown and stop business collapsing and keep everybody from going bankrupt but we are a capitalist society and people dont give a toss about each other His plan is as much as you are prepared to pay for each other to live and not die and it is bugger all Enjoy|1 No it doesnt youre cherry picking The spike is at 04 yrs Not all children 18 Outside of that group your own study finds it exceedingly rare Which is hardly surprising given that influenza is usually disproportionately severe in the very old and very young You need to bear in mind the size of the pool The incidence of hospitalization is nowhere near equivalent And for the record there are no children deaths from covid19 either Which should have made it obvious as I explained above that OP meant working age adults Not children And they are absolutely correct to point to that as a significant distinction 99 in Italy iirc are over 70It was 100 over 80 Do you know why its not anymore Because theyve run out of ICU beds and are preferentially treating younger and younger patients That decline owes precisely to the distinction you are insisting doesnt exist|0 We only have 460 cases in the UK and my anxiety is so bad Im already ill with Crohns and its just all absolutely terrifying Im not sleeping and people all around me keeping saying its all media scaremongering and its just the flu so on top of feeling ridiculously anxious people are also dismissing my anxiety and making me feel like Im overreacting Whats happening in Italy is absolutely devastating I cant even imagine what it must be like to have to choose who lives and who doesnt|0 We are trusting Chinas numbers Oh OKruns to the bunker|1 I get the temperature thing but I dont get the humidity thing This virus moves around in moisture droplets so why does humidity hurt|0 Ok bye |1 I agree Trump is the only one here I expect to be a dumbass The CDC has absolutely no excuse Thousands of career scientists with multiple degrees and the best they come up with is Tweets telling us to wash our hands and not wear masksPerfect storm combo of hands off conservative leadership and inept gigantic health bureaucracy|1 Companies may use fiscal years that better match their revenue cycles Some retailers dont start their fiscal year until February 1 for example because holiday returns from the previous year arent concluded until the end of JanuaryWhen citing a fiscal year often denoted as FY the year on which the closing date falls is considered the fiscal year So a company with a fiscal year that begins April 1 2017 and ends March 31 2018 refers to that period as fiscal year 2018 even though it starts in 2017httpswwwshopifycomencyclopediafiscalyear|1 If you havent noticed yet Fauci downplays stuff when hes with Trump and Pence but not when hes alone For example vaccine in 6 months when hes with Trump realistic timeline when hes alone|1 All the old guys from my local pub just ignore my warnings and talk about swine flu and bird flu and shit without even considering how much different it is and how much its going to fuck them over in a couple of weeks Probably going to see a lot of faces disappearing sadly|0 So possible mutliple patient zeroedit to strike that So they havent found patient zero yet|0 Also that doesnt make it sound better 600 in the same place would be way better than 600 spread all over|1 I wished we had heroic doctors like these in the west Maybe we will find out soon Maybe instead there will be a rash of doctors resignations and if so then we are truly fucked|0 This is 10 wk old disease and younger people take longer to succumb cause theyre stronger The NYT had a story yesterday about a 29 yr old doctor in Wuhan that died She recovered then relapsed into a coma It took her 35 days from symptoms onset to dieThese kids flying around because of cheap airlines deals are rolling dice at least a few are gonna crap out|0 If you dont want to find you dont look |0 4 Always have a twelve gauge shotgun with a good reserve of target shots|1 It is my own observation But its not my original idea that for example Americans blame poor people for being poor It is what drives conservatives to reducewithdraw social services viewing free food or reducedprice apartment rentals as rewarding the behavior of impoverished people as if their plight in life could be reduced to only their life choices and that the viability of their choices are somehow on par with those of the person who is casting the critical eye Its perhaps easier to see in American prisons which are focused on punishment In every other first world nation prisons are places to rehabilitation not merely punishment or for revenge Theres a great scene in Where to Invade NexthttpsyoutubePJoRpY4SKPIt24 where they visit the Norwegian prison systemhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv0IepJqxRCZY Americans would surely look at Norwegian prisoners as being pampered but the Norwegian view is that the punishment received is the taking away of their freedom and everything else is about rehabilitationIt might be a stretch for some people to see this blame culture as being behind the social unacceptability of wearing face masks in public but I view America as a society that is largely hostile to itself Our warm feelings of community are reserved for the people who look like us and act like us and someone wearing a face mask not only looks different but is exhibiting weakness and is blamed for whatever is bothering us or whatever we are insecure about Look at who is president Whats his stance on weakness What are his famous insecurities|0 When John Kasich discussed a VP spot with the Trump campaign in the 2016 election cycle he was told that VP would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy and Trump would be in charge of making America great again The president and his camp have always known that he cant provide any operational vision or leadership|1 Where did you get this number The Ontario critical care ventilator stock pile guide says we only got like 220 units in the stock pile Of which there are different models Only certain modelstypes are recommended for helping people with SARS 2 COVID 19With up to 20 of infected needing critical care Ontarios flattened injection curve rate must remain under a few thousand at any one time or risk leaving some without critical carehttpswwwcriticalcareontariocaENStrategicInitiativesPagesSurgeCapacityManagementPlanningaspx|1 Alright Ill go bowling instead |0 This is medicine my man nothing is perfect|0 No he doesnt The Italian government barely tolerates Vatican City and society has become very secular in Europe as a rule including Italy|0 Honestly Id take a 0 interest year long loan from the federal government|1 Nah im gonna listen to the random redditors instead|0 How many people does that convert into I figured it was a little bit stronger kind of common cold than usual but I guess well see|1 Seems a long way off Ill admit There are lots of masks that got bought by hoarders and retail arbitrageurs who then got shut down by Amazon and eBay Send them to Sloan Kettering or your local hospitals Its a shot at redemption|0 Copy paste for you too What always confuses me is that simply washing your hands is supposed to kill remove viruses You dont wash your hands in scalding hot water My understanding was that it was more the friction and surfactant soap that cleaned your hands So why wouldnt it work similarly with washing your clothes in detergent using agitation|0 I listened to it as well and let me preface by saying I have zeronadazilch credentials or authority to make speculations or assertions about covid But I felt like he contradicted a lot of what the experts are saying in general|1 If you look here httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirusIt has 1 death for UK todayId be inclined to think there has to be more|0 Ravenous just means extremely hungry which it seems like they were from the info in the article|1 Similar stability to SARS1Longer than 3 hours survival time as an aerosol less than 4h on copper about 24h on cardboard but with high variance and beyond 72h on stainless steel and plastic Thanks for posting this|1 i agree 100 and id love to see it changedbut a callous healthcare system doesnt absolve people of putting so many others in jeopardyat the very least put on a fucking mask|1 This is still really expensive hand sanitizer|1 Oh my gosh yeah especially with a child I guess people wont take this seriously until it gets super bad I hope you can convince them to hold off Maybe point out that your baby could get sick and that very understandably lol concerns you even if its just a chanceI used the even if its a small chance isnt better to avoid it and stay healthy with us line on my grandpa and while hes still going in today it was the most effective argument Ive used to date lol|1 Thank you I shared the site with my coworkers and this was the only thing they missed|1 Yesterday I saw a bunch of kids playing baseball and they did the hi 5 good game line at the end I couldnt believe it I thought theyd at least bump elbows or something Some of the parents must have been uncomfortable about it but I guess social pressure kept them from speaking up Either Im crazy or were all fucked|0 Could be more likely it depends on your circumstances Maybe you could smoke for a week or two and be protected from the virus until the epidemic passes then quit That would be pretty cheap and safe Maybe for current smokers quitting smoking now and becoming a former smoker leaves you both resistant to the virus and healthierIf this is really going on it should be studied|1 This is painful to read Why not have lunch at home In between those visits on February 15 doctors at the hospital said they first suggested she be tested for the coronavirus as she had a high fever Instead the woman went to a buffet lunch with a friend at a hotel|1 WHO We dont say Pandemic anymoreAlso WHO This is an international health emergency which may become a Pandemic|0 Ive never seen a doctor says N95 masks do not protect against viral particles If masks didnt work then why do they wear N95 masks when they see a patient suspect coronavirus|0 the mark ii looks tempting at 999 but the IBIS makes me wanna jump go the iii thank you and all the best wishes you can get out and photograph sooner rather than later|1 Im sorry that the pandemic started in an east asian country but I can assure you if the virus started with white people no one would be claiming racism|0 This isnt a deadly disease It is proving to be extremely contagious and has a fatality rate significantly higher than influenza It could easily kill tens of millions of people if it infects large swaths of the population a scenario that looks increasingly possibleFurthermore the disruptions it causes to healthcare systems and economies generally have the potential to indirectly cause lots of deaths|0 Has maintaining high levels of vit c shown any improved resistance towards other virus like cold and flu possibly yeshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5409678 Does maintaining high levels of vit C for extended periods of time garner any negative side effects some including flu like symptoms and kidney failurehttpswwweverydayhealthcomdrugsascorbicacid Most vit c supplements are like a 1500 dose whatever that means but what is a maximum dose maximum daily intake is 2000mg any more may cause allergic reactionhttpswwwhealthharvardedustayinghealthywhatstherightamountofvitamincformeEditdid my own googling and passed the savings on to you|0 What is the point of this post Seriously|0 Do either of you work primarily on a computer or phone Most of that can be arranged to be done remotely I use chrome remote desktop because security and I deal with massive files 200GB so its easier to just remote into my work computer from my laptop at home then my company doesnt have to worry about files going anywhere theyre not supposed to and if they want to come into the office and check on my computer they can Also it mostly transfers hands to face so as long as youre not getting coughed on directly and youre using hand sanitizer frequently and wiping down shared surfaces with Clorox wipes or similar you should be fine working with other people who are also avoiding crowded places and suchIt probably has spread silently more than we know so its best to just behave as though everyone has secret flu and dont hang around people with heart or lung problems or old people to keep them safe and practice excellent hygiene in generalYou can also typically get temporary extensions on loansrent without penalty if you communicate super well with the people in charge of that Everybody is human and there is typically at least some wiggle room that could reduce the financial burden on your family just enough Just be super thorough about what you can and cant manage for the next few months and see what you can pay late or partial payment on as much as possible to help make them more willing to help you out Also do your taxes if you havent and talk to any extended family who might be able to help you with a personal loan if it seems like this could go on too long It also might be a good time to downgrade your internetphone plan andor reconsider any monthly subscriptions that you have that arent absolutely necessary Best of luck|1 Anyone else see anything about it possibly staying with a person for life Like HIVI dont have a link but I recall hearing that in the last few days If its engineered to be that way that is especially evil|0 Sure but we are talking about the risk to society as a whole not your individual risk|0 They had to close down a couple of local schools because so many kids were coming in while sick It wrecked nearly the entire population lol|0 The title also implies its in the process of mutating to something worse rather than it already mutated Terrible sensationalist title|0 Wow Chinas infection rate has slowed down so much|1 No exceptions Above all what a terrible example this sets Everyone will think they dont need to now Not an ounce of leadership in that useless pricks body|0 The candidates would come back at a contested convention for the DNC nom and the GOP would have to do something similar So it would probably be like Buttegieg Harris Booker Warren Steyer Bloomberg Castro etc|1 Rest in peace |1 ExactlyThis came out of nowhere for ChinaThe rest of the world had an idea it might be coming and had China as a case study but still fucked itMaybe that time we spent pointing fingers would have been better used watching learning and preparing|0 Does anyone know how parents of young kids are affected Since we get ill all the time from what they bring home|0 People here who seek out these corners of the internet have undiagnosed anxiety disorders andor control issues|0 But all tests were positive after 2 negative The two negative should limit the time when you still have the virus even if dead virus on you body wouldnt it|0 Danish women used to wear a mouth mask during winter because the ocean winds are so brutal Now they tell us that masks does not work and that wearing them is just Asian culture |0 Unfortunate reality TV news is very good at spreading panic not solutions|0 I remember people laughing off swine flu and I too caught it back in 2009 Agreed Sickest Ive ever been in my life and it was absolutely terrifying Youre very lucky that you didnt have long term effects I definitely didnt and much of it wasnt corrected until just this year Im on heart meds and flovent for the rest of my life though Should add that my boyfriend at the time also had swine flu at the same time with complications Hes in his 30s lifelong nonsmoker and has pulmonary obstruction|1 Dither and delay|0 I hope you mean the Pope|1 So using old methodology its only 1520 increase in confirmed case which is pretty much in line with overall decline in number of new cases|1 The theory goes that the Chinese stole the virus from another nation state and was researching it at the level 4 bio lab in Wuhan It somehow got out by accident and with long incubation periods it wasnt known until it was too late The local government tried to contain and cover it up which is why early reports were attacked then it got to big to hide and you now see the Chinese responseAgain not saying this is what happened Im just outlining what the conspiracy theory is|0 No I remember Bush sending like 750 after 911 Obama did expand unemployment 20 a week or something|0 The article said some doctors estimate infected people are contagious 3 days before developing symptoms These are not immune carriers|0 We were just talking about this earlier how shoddy the government is being about it allIt leads people to doing really dumb stuff like still going out when theyve come back from a known country And so much incorrect information on social mediaMy brother and his girlfriend both work in the NHS on the pharmacy technician side and the other day they were telling me how its nothing just a mild cold people are panicking over nothing I sneezed and my brothers gf laughed and said it was corona I have a health condition so if I get it I could get seriously ill with it or even dieWhatever the government states and how they act filters down to the regular person If they think its nothing the public will too and thats how it spreadsI honestly think that the government is aware of how bad it could get I just dont think they care When the deaths are typically shown in the elderly and those with other illnesses the government will just shrug because to them these people arent the ones propping up the economy|0 Every country that installed 5g is getting symptoms Sweden was the first to implement it Then UK then Italy The first was China with the largest network of 100K 5g towers And they had the worst caseshttpsemfscientistorgThere is very little research on this technology and there are hundreds of scientists that are pleading for this technology to be reconsideredAfrica is the only country with no 5G towers and has virtually no cases of such illness|0 You just opened my eyes i live in Canada and the situation is still in the first stages Up until this point i was not worried because i am a healthy 18 years old but i did not realise it could turn this bad so quick Thank you and i wish the best to all the people under quarantine And im gonna go wash my hands right now|1 Consider it a dust particle with 35 day viability UV will cut that down significantly Its still encapsulated as a flu virus Leave your windows closed if you are less than a football field away|0 I hope you guys are able to get some bread|1 Is there a point with treatment that this can be reversed or does it get to the point in the body that it wont be reversedEdit Ill read through and try and find some more infomaybe tonight when I have more of a resolve the heart The positive way to look at this I guess is that now this characteristic has been determined we can work on solving it Im personally incredibly thankful for the dedicated and tireless work being done in the scientific community throughout the world|1 Its one thing looking in from the outside but another to be living it Living at ground zero and knowing that any one of my family could become infected and die from this virus would be terrifying|0 Uh noIt can still be held in check It can be managed The main issue is only with its novelty and our immune systems collectively having no established memory of something like this The flu is also very dangerous to us But we have learned how to manage it with treatment vaccines and accumulated immunity acquired over many generations With this novel coronavirus we are stuck with the task of condensing the decades of experience and immunity we have acquired with something like influenza into a few monthsIt can be done It needs to be done If you think eradication is possible here youre never going to reach that goal If we managed to halt it completely right now but left even one case out there somewhere in the world not even in a person but maybe an animal all our efforts would be for nothing Boom were off to the races again the second it spreads againThe goal is gradually acquired herd immunity or keeping things manageable for long enough to discover a vaccine|0 Almost the same in Germany where ppl are running infected through the streets or saying its just a flew |0 Its more than that way more than that Current projections are 60 for worst case 60 2 mortality rate 320 345x200BThis doesnt include the amount of people that will die because the healthcare system is already loaded Think about how many people will have heart attacks in the next few months hint its probably in the hundreds of thousands|0 But its another person who has the virus was possibly in contact with OTHER people Now we just wait to see if he infected anyone else Obviously it isnt a catastrophe but it also isnt good|0 Youll just get denied for bullshit reasons|0 Georgian here Work at a school One of the employees is trustworthy in my opinion friends with the creator of a major healthbased charity According to her Atlantas Grady Hospital is already way over capacityI took a walk today just to see what was goin on Public transit is active social gatherings close proximity no masks Its not looking good The folks in my neighborhood are acting like its spring breakGood news is some restaurants public offices and other large gathering spots are shutting down But we havent even gotten close to the peak and Im seeing the strain already|1 She exhibited the typical selfish Chinese thinking|0 You my friend are spot on Anyone agreeing with the CDCs recommendation to not wear a mask are relying on the word of a highly untrustworthy organization Anyone who doesnt believe this needs to research corruption in the CDC And if researching is too much I highly suggest watching the movie Contagion to get a brief idea of how the CDC will act in a time of global pandemic|1 it also means more people wasting productive time on Redditearning them money while the rest of the economy loses money such a good guy|0 Awesome Thank you for sharing Its so refreshing to have access to science and fact based data The medias 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was no big deal It also has lasting effects on peoples perceptions of how serious this is A lot of people arent glued to the news like we are A lot of people would take that headline to heart and think of it against other new arguments No this is reckless|0 You are adorable|1 Hello I doubt my question will get answered as it is likely to get buried in the comments but if the OP or anyone else can provide insight I would truly appreciate itI am a healthy active 28 year old male and I very rarely get sick I do however receive infusions of remicade for Crohns Disease which has been in remission since roughly 2015 Should I be unusually concerned due to my illness and medication My immediate reaction is that the remicade is the more concerning of the 2 but I would love others input|1 Thats amazing That is my jam Do you know what government office was responsible for this Federal or city|1 French minister of health tweeted that people should avoid antiinflammatories when treating a fever httpsmobiletwittercomolivierveranstatus1238776545398923264Any opinions|0 I agree but I just cant see someone even able to work 39 days straight without collapsing|1 My grandpa is 87 missing a lobe of his lung from lung cancer has COPD and a pacemaker He went to Walmart today My grandma said it like it was no big deal|0 He also pushed back against the Suleimani strike and noted its eerie resemblance to the Bush Administrations agitation of the Iraq War Meanwhile other Republicans fell into lockstep with Trump as he betrayed his own promises of nonintervention Say what you will about his politics the guy does have principles especially in comparison to his craven cohort of Trumpechoers|0 Yes come to think of that in most jurisdictions theres something like reckless endangerment charges which seems far more appropriate than attempted murderEg Washington state A person is guilty of reckless endangerment when he or she recklessly engages in conduct not amounting to driveby shooting but that creates a substantial risk of death or serious physical injury to another person|0 Again jumping at the bottom of a freefalling elevator before it crashes works in theory but rarely in practice The spread happens over a matter of weeks in which you must first segregate vulnerable from nonvulnerable and then remix so that the vulnerable dont catch it from each other with perfect timing The stakes are millions of deaths Its a game in which people with low stakes might be willing to play|1 Holy crap That escalated quickly|0 Hes making a joke Asymptomatic vs asymptote|1 I wrote my state senators and current presidential candidates imploring them to make sure there is transparency from our government during this crisis If we have the info we can make better decisions for ourselves|0 Should have used reverse physiology and name the title Please go out tonight for drink and get coronavirus cuz youre an idiot|0 Im a Philadelphian and I agree with you especially since I think there was a part of 47 in NJ where 2 people in Boston were infected as well as several Philadelphians not sure it was an article posted here I think we should ban even medium gatherings There hasnt even been an announcement made yet People here are not really taking it seriously imoEdit Officially announced that gatherings over 1000 are canceled and over 250 are strongly discouraged I wish theyd just go ahead and officially cancel over 250|0 Shouldnt care about any of that It would be stupid to kick someone out without another tenant lined up anyway Think a landlords going to go through the trouble of evicting a whole building|0 It does make sense but a lot of people who are in the senior group or disability and need a carer may struggle if their carer doesnt start early or are on certain medicationsThey could maybe let the general public access the store an hour after normal starting time|0 On Weibo it says that plenty of these doctors are bringing with them plenty of supplies Hopefully with this reinforcement and the temporary hospital that they are building things will be contained and patients will receive the necessary care for themselves |1 Thank you so much for your kind words This is actually way more helpful for me than anything else 3 even the ones that are supposedly geared toward reporting scientifically backed information seem to have many conflicting views regarding COVID19 Yeah it is kinda unsettling to read comments like All hospitals will certainly get overwhelmedAll official organizations and scientists are nothing but lying scums who do not care at all |1 It was someones job at least to avoid them from getting out|0 Nice|1 HIPAA Federal HIPAA legislation allows disclosure of protected health information without consent of the individual to public health authorities for the purpose of preventing or controlling disease HIPAA 45 CFR 164512|1 Nah in the US itll be worse Theyll just let poor people die|0 Lol D|1 Thats a good analogy It sounds more dangerous than it really is but on a gut instinct level when it happens for a second you are still likeOh shit|0 Take some cash out and stash it as well You never know if you might need it|1 Huh Jesus fuck yu guys are fuckedThe mortality rate increases becuase the hospitals are overloaded not enough icus and respiratory equipment This happened in italy and china|0 Pretty standard and theyre all to happy to charge you interest for that extra month|1 Have another link from a SARS studyhttpswwwthelancetcomjournalslancetarticlePIIS0140673603131686fulltextThe surgical and N95 masks were both effective in significantly reducing the risk of infection which together with the finding that 30 of noninfected staff did not use masks table 2 supports that transmission is not airborne The finding that paper masks did not significantly reduce the risk is not unexpected Such masks being easily wet with saliva are never recommended as a precaution against dropletsNow in this case AFAIK it can become aerosolized which can result in it getting through a mask but larger droplets are still the major concern so it should still have a strong impact|1 I held that opinion up until like a week ago Then I educated myself Now when my friends mention the same thing I try and educate them in the same way without being overbearing or a dick about it|1 Oh hey thanks I havent checked my email I actually got it yesterday as wellAfter reading it I get the feeling that schools are going to be reactive rather than proactive that sucks Its already spreading in Toronto and probably Montreal probably Ottawa too in limited mild cases especially since no testing is done on travelers and no travel bans are in placeWhat are your thoughts on this For me I have to be proactive because everyone in my family is in the risk for serious complications side of things so I have to guess at when to pull the kids out of school Waiting for the schools to close reactively is too great a risk|1 Enhanced measures at airport Business as usualEnhance Enhanced measures at airport after public outcry Piece of paper telling you to self isolate|0 Cause the Hong Kong government was insisting to keep trains open and borders open until a day after they did that They also said foreigners who were in hk tourists visitors anyone could freely use hk hospitals if they were detected with the virus|1 Absolutely first responders everywhere deserve nothing but our respect and help while theyre battling this disease I mentioned Italian health workers in particular because my family owes several lives to their efficiency and because OP is an Italian nurseI keep hoping EuropeanWesternand most places tbh govts would wake up and make their lives a bit less grueling given the absurdly hard circumstances were in right nowwell all be in very soon|1 Want NoWould I shed a tear if the racists in my Southern town died off Also no|0 Also keep in mind that products produced locally also need raw materials likely sourced from elsewhere and can be affected Completely hypothetical but it would be easy to lose your product box supply because your supplier is shifting their production lines over to boxes for nitrile gloves mask boxes or something else to meet that increased demand|1 Travel bans Interrupted supply chain Public lockdowns Depending on the government to keep you fed Risk of getting the virus while out getting food Virus outbreak dragging on longer than expected To me 3 months or more is the goal I think a food shortage of some duration is a real possibility And me wanting to avoid human contact while this is spreading is a definite thing|0 Number one thing to do right now is be 100 transparent with your parents If youre symptomatic they need to be aware It will be difficult to get tested if you havent been in contact with anyone who has a confirmed casethis is whats crazy about our system right now Just be super cautious of who you interact with avoid being near the elderly and atrisk people and let people know that you might be sick Best of luck my friend|1 14 days without Whataburger can drive you insane Not sure who could resist the pull|0 Many people consider landlords to be parasites taking advantage of a market failure and adding no value How sympathetic any particular individual is doesnt really come into it|1 I agree my first thought is that it is an attempt by the Party to control the narrative and eliminate the possibility of leaked information from front line healthcare workers|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 people had plenty of time to watch this unfold and be preparedexactly China had 41 million people on lockdown on Jan 24 7 weeks ago I was watching closely and each day it seemed like the lockdown expanded by 10s of millions of people Thats when I started stocking up a little at a time I couldnt understand how anyone could see what China was doing and still think it wouldnt affect us|1 Been here five days Familiarity made it stop being funny sometime around Wednesday morning By Thursday you would have 2050 down votes for mentioning it but the rate of new visitors to this sub has changed the dynamics|1 Im in America and I definitely want to know whats going on here but its also extremely important for me to know whats going on globally|1 People just like to use the prexistinf condition as a mental hedge for their fear and anxieties She was healthy She died End of story Stop trying to rationalize it and accept it can happen to anyone|0 No disrespect but even I could have said that|0 There are probably hundreds if not thousands of actual cases in the US by now Our testing has been pathetic|0 This couldnt be more wrong if it tried Utterly misleading nonsense|0 WHO Hey lets call this thing Covid19Taiwan But were used to Wuhan VirusChina Now look here my good manTaiwan I dont want to talk to you no more you emptyheaded animaltrough wiper I fart in your general direction Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries|1 in the coffee world a cup is often 5 fl ounces My little glass coffee mugs hold like 10 fl ounces to the top My brewer is SCA certified and the manual recommends 8 grams of coffee for every 5fl oz of water Comes out to the SCAs Golden Cup ratio So shoot for maybe 10 to 20 fl oz and calculate the grams of coffee to go with that|1 No thats not whats happening Stop spreading BS FUD|0 Its not necessarily the drug that will increase mortality Misinformation often leads to counterproductivity If you make a positive sentiment on a drug that isnt conclusive to be effective you are potentially denying patients in the future of a drug that could be possibly better Anyhow nobody is going to entertain you panic The study needs to be concluded Thats how the scientific method works If you are in disagreement then youve just went into a dangerous slippery slope|1 As an immunosuppressed international student who faces deportation if I miss uni classes I need this to survive Ive nearly died from a cold I want to stay at home and just wait this thing out but cant miss uni|0 Yes Im not saying younger people cant get severely ill but its clearly less frequent Those people are outliers Younger people can die from regular pneumonia cancer etc|0 First world because first is bestnumber one means a democracy Third world is nondemocracies And then theres the lesser known second world countries that dont fit neatly into eitherThats completely wrong First world The west NATO Second world Soviet block Third world unaffiliated Thats what these names used to mean Nowadays they are just synonyms for developed developing and undeveloped countries But at no point were they synonyms for democracy|0 Yeah I know the feeling|1 Good thing coughing cant spread particles more then had an inch s|1 Out of all the advanced nations the US response is only ahead of the herd immunity strategy by the UK As someone in Canada after seeing about half our new cases coming from people who visited Stateside I really hope that the leadership here closes the border at least for general travelers|1 This is a telling time to see whether you work for a good company or a shitty one So if you have recently discovered that you work for a shitty one its time to start at least planning to find a new jobIts too late to find a new job for this pandemic But dont you worry in 10 years well have another pandemic Too many parts of this world are extremely poor and rely on bush meat of wild animals Diseases will undoubtedly keep jumping from animal to human This is why we have a social responsibility to fight global poverty But no one seems to care|0 Everyone should wear socks only or homeshoes for inside homes the whole wear outside shoes in the home is a horrible american tradition|0 Harsh reality to be in ya know|0 Even if they do come forward people would still think its not accurate in some ways It could be accurate now and people are doubting the numbers Im not saying that it is accurate or not right now However I just feel like some people wont believe that its accurate regardless unless it fits the number that they are imagining in their heads|1 This person would actually deserve it and that deviates from the Time Person of the Year goal of pissing everyone off|0 So the man spent something like 500600 million dollars He could have literally just given every american 12 million dollars for free then ran for office and probably wonI thought that was just bad math httpswwwbusinessinsidercommikebloombergcouldntgiveeveryamerican1million20203httpswwwbusinessinsidercommikebloombergcouldntgiveeveryamerican1million20203 httpswwwpolitifactcomfactchecks2020mar06msnbcbadmathmsnbcbloombergsadspendingwasntenoughhttpswwwpolitifactcomfactchecks2020mar06msnbcbadmathmsnbcbloombergsadspendingwasntenough 500 million divided by 327 million people would be roughly 153 per person not 1 million |1 this makes sense the virus arrived in south korea sooner has been spreading for longer more people are sick with it more people there have died we arent on the same timeline these numbers cant be compared US numbers will mirror south korea unless we prove to be more capable of containing the virus too soon to tell|0 httpswwwkshhuinteraktivkorfakorszaghtmlhttpswwwkshhuinteraktivkorfakorszaghtml this is all the people According to ageThis is the nuber of he presently ICU needing hospialized people 19x200Bhttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2020coronaviruspandemicinHungaryfbclidIwAR0YgCUXVKgHmycmH1k2mYHHngG7YZHOY5FyAkJDD8rKOyalw3NK8wMK3SAhttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2020coronaviruspandemicinHungaryfbclidIwAR0YgCUXVKgHmycmH1k2mYHHngG7YZHOY5FyAkJDD8rKOyalw3NK8wMK3SAx200BI counted the maximum bad news the Merkel Coefficiens which is 60 of all adults are sick so from the over60 poeple with a 10 death rate it will be 60 000 which is very high as normal influenza has 2000 yearly 60 000 is the US number for this yearly But the Merkel Number is really a maximum or maybe I counted not correctly I count in head but did not do any writings so it is just a practice about infor we have or have wex200B We do have 70 000 Hospital beds|0 FDA already said they are lifting regulations and any test of proven scientific validity may be usedWish they announced that 2 month ago but better late than never|1 Yall are screwed if it is so|0 Confirmed cases arent the same as estimated infections Some of those infected wont show any symptoms or may show mild symptoms but they are carriers and potentially spreading it to more vulnerable people|0 I dont understand this train of thoughtYou dont watch your dropped in ballot get counted or tallied off You might see a bunch of ballots being counted but you dont know whos they are or if they are realSee I can play conspiracy too|0 Hopefully they change the rules on that|1 Statistical outliers are fascinating and should be studied but shouldnt be looked at as some sort of hope or negate the seriousness of the pandemic A basic stats class would explain the importance of understanding outliers in some detail but here is a couple of short videos thatll help httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvvcbMinm1Q8httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvvcbMinm1Q8 httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv7SM4PN7Yg1shttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv7SM4PN7Yg1s|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Cant deny 2 weeks ago I looked at those LA Maui round trip tickets for 200 with some spark in my eyes So glad I didnt jump on it for so many reasons especially now realizing how dangerous the disease can be on the islands Hows the food situation where you are getting supplies in a worry Be well and stay safe|1 Declaring a state of emergency|0 How incredibly irresponsible they need to put greed aside in this public health crisis jc|0 I just saw another post of someone else with the physical letter in their hand and they called the hospital to confirm Its legit|1 It might have been because there was a link that I didnt see that was already posted regarding this I dont come here to read antiChinese sentiment I dont think the Chinese want to have this happening to them anymore than we do so why say anything angry about them If anything many of the Chinese are upset at their leadership|0 i never demanded anything all i stated was that I AM POOR and they are coming to the rescue for everyone who already gets help or is establishedalso why are u even here u got your savings dude you shouldnt care|1 Who gives a fuckSeriouslyThis is offensive|0 Those ships are floating disease factories even on a good day Is it common for each cabin to have its own HEPA filter|1 The news outlets I see dont accept anything but 0 or 100Sadly many media consumers dont like Its more complicated than YesNo or GoodBad|0 This is foolish I hope this doesnt contribute to the spread of nCoV but well see what happens in about two weeks|1 That number might double tomorrow|1 The community outbreaks there all began with Chinese sources Now we could test to quarantine anyone in contact with the infected or people can start self quarantine if they dont need immediate hospitalization |0 Just waiting for some mp to keel over in the house of commons live on TV and the rest of them run everyone will take it seriously thenOdds are it could happen considering the age of most of them|0 AB and confused|0 Breathing in covid19 is rather unlikely The primary mode of transmission is when an infected person sneezescoughs and water droplets land somewhere then you touch it and then touch your face Surgical masks prevent infected people from sneezing and coughing these water droplets into the environment It really doesnt matter how small Covid cells are because they dont travel by themselves They are contained within these water droplets|0 Yeah I saw this yesterday Seems those predictions from the American Hospital Association were legit too|1 Good on them|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Its how Ive felt for the last fortnight at least I think the expression goes May you live in interesting timesOddly enough I have recently been reading a very good book about Russian women pilots during World War 2 and they seemed to have had a fair bit more warning about the approach of the war than we have about this pandemic|0 I think of Madison as a pretty big Chinese hub because of UW I actually recommend it to my chinese friends because its a big community there Lots of my beijing contacts have friends who went there too Source Ive lived in both Madison and beijing|1 Interesting thanks Do you have a link to their post|1 Will try thanks You too|1 True Im all set as far as supplies and now I feel this strange what do I do now feelingit is a feeling like no control I think deep down I thought it might all go away and it is finally reality|1 thank you for sharing some questionsafter what time is the number of infected doubling I heard something realistic is 7 daysdo you include containment measures or do you assume exponential growth|1 Money as an international exchange commodity no longer has an intrinsic value There is no standard international currency and the stock markets make money from this It used to be a viable way to get rich particularly for those who knew how to play the markets whether by skill or inside knowledge The banks have been artificially upholding the idea that international trading can continue onbthis basis for example by contolling the price of oil and metal via global corpoarations or trade associations But the emperpr has no clthes and it was bound to collapse at some point This is probably the time if not now then later The idea of bolstering oil and the old industries finds favour among those looking back to the old days when heavy industry defined progess This is no longer the case The wealth of a nation is an educated workforce with tech skills and an ability to produce desirable tech productsThe market is going through the first of many adjustments|1 Cant theres nothing to read Hugged to death|0 I suspect the reason they wait is human psychologyYou need full buy in for a quarantine like this to workYou wont get full buy in on any local level until things get bad locally ie some people wont believe until they see it for themselvesSo we have to wait for it to get bad enough that everyone is willing to do something about itReading the comments in this and other threads today were not there yet anywhere in North Americae maaaaybe Seattle and New York maybe|0 According to the battery datasheethttpwwwmaxairsystemsnetManualsUIMIFUIFU3637TSCBatteriesRevApdf it outputs 148V nominal which means its made with 4x 37V LiIon cells in series Each cell has a max voltage of 42V which corresponds to the charger voltage of 168V 4x 42V and a minimum voltage of 3V So the respirator will accept 12168V Capacity is 225Ah 45 Ah depending on model Since the 33Ah battery lasts more than 4h the respirator draws less than 1 Amp It has a simple barrel connector and the respirator has the matching male barrel connector These can be bought anywhereSo the simplest solution would be to go to a shop that sells RC cars and explain the issue to them Its literally as simple as getting the technician to solder a female barrel connector to a 148V RC car battery pack with the correct polarity Its a five minute job The less than 1A current is okay for pretty much any Lithium cell that has the capacity you want more than 2 Ah Please get a battery pack with full protection against short circuits and deep discharge dont put unprotected LiPo on your belt though Also dont forget to buy the charger and learn how to use itYou could also use any lithium battery with compatible voltage like 144V cordless drill batteries etc That would require some creativity since the connector has to stay intact to fit the charger Open the drill battery solder two wires on the output connector with a barrel connector on the end 20 minute jobYou can also go to httpelectronicsstackexchangecomhttpelectronicsstackexchangecom and explain your problem with all the data Im an EE by the way x200Bx200Bx200Bx200Bx200Bx200BI hope OP reads this|1 Note to selfnCoV 2019 US SymptomsFever cough difficulty breathingComplicationsPneumonia kidney failure Medical Bankruptcy|0 Could you be more specific Not trying to be a dick but everyone keeps saying this stuff but nobody says how to do itWhat is the very best Which countries are doing the best|1 Well youre recontaminating your hands the second you touch anything after washing them Phone or not|1 If your family doesnt live in the same household and didnt listen for the past 2 months youve been telling them this would happen They cant be helpedIf they would cut you off for not hurting your own household for supplies than they werent great family anyway|0 Whats funny is I assume 70 of the public will see this news and actually think the government has saved us and go out partying as normal ALL HAIL BORISEdit oh fuck sake I didnt actually expect this to happen half the comments on here are already in that vain|1 I wouldnt trust number of deaths from any other country right now So you are saying that Korea is lying That Singapore and Vietnam are lying|0 Yep GoG has you covered httpswwwgogcomgamewingcommander12httpswwwgogcomgamewingcommander12|1 i agree with the decision but the goverment is totally hiding cases or at least doesnt want to tell anyone about the number of suspected cases i know ppl who work in hospitals and in the capital there are 3 cases that are being isolated and in Ahuchapn theres are 4 cases My sources are really close to me and trust worthy so yeah the president isnt telling the full picture|1 In NYC a grand would be gone as soon as I get itaint really gonna help herenow 10k is something I can get behind|1 In the past America would have led the response to the Coronavirus it would have been America who would have run to help other countries with medical material and it would have done whatever it would be needed at whatever cost to bring a vaccine to the entire planet Now there is an administration that tries to do this Its weird how things change|1 Masks are only good at keeping things from going out not in so they keep sick people from spreading Any N95 or N99 respirator mask will not stop covid 19 because the particles are smaller than the smallest holes in the filter They are telling people not to buy them so we dont see what we saw with toilet paper|1 So natures just scary af got it|0 Is it safe to say that there are two sides of the corona virus story Its seems to me like I am experiencing competing narratives Why is this so or not so in your opinion|1 Some truth Great post|1 a generation that never really lived through troubling timesa person in their 70s never lived through troubling times might be the most ignorant and outrageous statement ive read since this whole thing started|0 The virus is almost certainly not to blame for the entire number of virus related deaths Youre absolutely correct in that the infrastructure and population density combined with incessant national smoking and some of the worst air quality globally contributed greatly to the severity of the illness Although there is mixed opinions and very limited credible data I suspect the lack of death outside of China can be attributed to stricter health care policies and vastly improved air quality|0 Oops good catch Ill edit my original response|1 I think its because people need to feel in control there is a situation at the moment that does not have a guaranteed good outcome People naturally feel out of control one way to mitigate that anxiety is to do something your are In Control off For example stocking up on goods preping planning ect its no ones fault neither the governments or the public Its just a natural reaction to hight anxiety situations|0 Dallas TX as of 322 pm 317Me and my girlfriend work at a donut shop in an area that doesnt seem too concerned about everything Had 9 new cases confirmed earlier today I think the biggest so far Those of us concerned have been basically screaming online for more testing one hospital opened limited drive thru testing but it hasnt made that big a dent With MILLIONS of people only running a couple hundred tests is ascinine Grocery store earlier was fairly chill Aldi on NW Hwy bread and rice out everyone had a cautious look in their eye and our normal cashier looked beat to hell A lot less cars on the road but a lot more than Im comfortable withI see a lot of people online in my area saying they have some symptoms but are either young and dont care or are the old money ballsy types quite a few down here Even worse the ones that do want to be tested cant so yeah were fucked Hoping more stringent lockdown measures occur I have asthma and a weak heartbeat not sure cause too broke to check so I started quarantine todayStay safe everyone|0 Well aside from the black plague its played when deaths advance in the game plague inc|1 You have hurt the feelings of the Chinese people Apologise now and atone for your sins s|0 Do you ever get tired of making excuses for the lame response of the CDC WHO etc to this crisis |0 Google Gilead sorry cant right now|0 Can we please stop pointing out how the pandemic is going to be way worse than it should have been due to Republican corruption and incompetenceUmmm no They are literally killing people here And less than a week ago the betting markets had Trump winning the election|0 Also theres just going to be a trail leading back to him that will be hard to ignore more so than there already is|0 It isnt as simple as that As far as I know there are multiple sources of information on the team The head of the imperial study is on the team but there would be conflicting opinions from elsewhere If you can find evidence that the original plan was solely advised by the Imperial College COVID19 Response Team then I would agree My issue is how slow we were in changing the plan compared to other European countries and that we are still not doing as much them|1 Even if he isnt hes in charge He needs to do something Make them test Come up with plans Take charge of the situation Fire people Do whatever it takes as the president of the US of the motherthumping A Peoples lives are at stake|0 You might look into taking time off under the Family and Medical Leave Act At the moment I have nothing other than this suggestion as to whether it would cover this but perhaps you could do a search and see if anyone is exploring that generally as to persons in the high risk group I see that it is touched on in a few of the comments here I am in the high risk group so far as age is concerned but fortunately I work from home and can self quarantine Good luck to you|1 Yes if thats his mother|1 This page gives such great advice on what to do httpstwittercomalltimegenericstatus1233752613738438658httpstwittercomalltimegenericstatus1233752613738438658|1 Im going to fire a Number 2 torpedo at work because its the only place with TP|0 Youre lucky My family doesnt even wash their hands|1 I agree they should have broken the law to testI also think the CDC shouldve knowingly allowed the privacy violations and planned to absorb the lawsuits themselves This was pure bureaucratic cowardly rule following at its worst No room for common sense while youre covering your ass|0 And nobody in China went on TV and said it was nothing to worry about Before or after the good doctors wechat post They fucked up sure everyone definitely has a right to be angry But for most people that blame is shared with their local government For the last 3 months the world needed to come together and fight this A virus isnt a person or government|0 its not mitigation its giving up just to keep the economy rolling as long as it can they dont care about victims or further damage to the economy|0 i had it this way too i am working from home this week and catching shit for it but i can sleep at night knowing im doing my part most of my conversations go this way bUt yOu hAvEnT beEn tEsTeD iTS jUSt tHe fLUyet ive been sick like this for 21 days and just this morning i am finally getting better feelings of bricks on chest burns when breathing absolute uncontrollable coughing anytime i try to breate more than just short shallow breaths caught it after everyone in my building went to a sales conference 700 people and everyone came back sick this isnt fucking rocket science|0 Theres no indication that grocery supply chains will be hugely interruptedUmmm about thathttpswwwportandterminalcomtruckerreleasesvideoshowingjusthowcontainerterminalis|0 Ive tried to convince other family members of whats coming and most still dont believe its a big deal Ive showed them the pics of the mass graves they are digging in Iran Ive showed them the churches in Italy that are full of coffins Noone believes what Im telling them They refuse to believe it They fact of the matter is alot of people are gonna die and our lives might never be the same Stay safe friend I wish you the very best|1 That would be a dream come true I finally wont have an excuse to put off doing my taxes lol|1 This is why it pays to be open and honest about your case numbers The US and many countries in Europe likely have the same or more cases than Italy But because Italy is aggressively testing tracking and treating they are an obvious recipient of foreign aid during this crisis|0 No|0 More like how to trick medical officials into actually testing for this virus South Korea is testing everyone that has flulike symptoms We wont even test people from Hong Kong Singapore or Indonesia|1 Verified and flaired yay|1 Peanut Butter NoodlesYou use the ramen as noodles while the water boils and ramen cooks you make the sauce Peanut butter the seasoning and whatever other flavorings I cook 2 packs use 1 packet sriracha and dried ginger once you put the ramen in the water move it around until its all under the water then you scoop out some of the water and pour it over the peanut butter mashing and stirring with a spoon until the water and seasonings become incorporated when youre done with that the ramen is ready drain it I rinse with cold water since they are already so soft and quick to cook then combine the noodles and sauce together in the cooking potToppings are unnecessary but the ones I like pepper flakes sesame seeds green onion jalapeno shiitake mushrooms thin strips of pork chop or chicken thigh shredded carrot bean sprouts soft boiled or any runnyyolk eggIf you have metalwashable chopsticks using 1 is the best way to mix the peanut butter sauce with the ramen but half the time I use a fork|1 Poor officer|0 Not really Reports outside of China and outside of Diamond Princess concur with the current incubation period The Diamond Princess cases are especially valuable for proving this even if you dont trust them though They were on the ship January 20 and by March 5 there were still greater than 50 asymptomatic cases|1 I am a server The first weekend of this month I got the flu was unable to work all weekend Sadly that was the last busy weekend weve had since the outbreak Now no one is coming in and I am making barely anything for my time Im not mad at people for not coming in its the smart thing to do I just dont know how I am going to pay my bills and pay for food|0 Which country do you live in If you are in US Register for USPS informed delivery They will send an email each day with the mail you are going to receive Then you can go to collect your mail only when important mail arrives|1 Even Austin Powers learned that its Freedom WITH Responsibility Its groovy|1 Someone should start a petition for Trump to declare this a national emergency|0 Good bot Always relevant |1 Yea but if you fail to isolatesanitize you could give it to grandma or grandpa and then its a whole different situation|0 Not dead but spent 2 weeks in ICU he was moved out of the ICU a couple days ago This is one of the thousand articles on him his case triggered extensive testing and the discovery of the initial spread in Lombardyhttpswwwrepubblicaitcronaca20200222newsilcontagiato249206473Edit there are several reports of people in their 30s and 40s in ICU here|1 Thats a good news story|1 The main reason is because of the fatality rate and total deaths The fatality rate of COVID19 is lower than some other recent viruses like ebola and technically the flu has killed more people The problem is that these arguments do not take into account two main factors1 Fatality rate does not mean more people will die from it This sounds counterintuitive but consider it this way With Ebola people were actually dying so quickly from infections that they were not spreading to as many people The more fatal the virus the less likely they tend to be to spread for reasons like this Its much easier to deal with contaminationspreading from someone either dead or incapacitated than someone capable of moving around freely In comparison COVID19 has a more reasonable fatalitymortality rate so it doesnt kill everyone it infects This is actually not necessarily a good thing in the sense that it means more people can be infected as spread is exponential 2 Influenza is statistically less fatal its just more widespread The stats touted about deaths from Influenza are not representative of the viruses themselves Influenza has both a vaccine and antiviral treatment so fatality rate is much lower than COVID19 at 01 The current fatality rate for COVID19 is said to be 34 this is likely to be inflated but either way it will be higher than influenza Equally COVID19 doesnt have a vaccine or antiviral treatment If youre infected there is no official treatment its done casebycase As a result many health officialsprofessionals are able to understand that if you project forward in time from now using current growth statistics alongside how long we have to wait until any possible vaccine will be available its easy to see that while COVID19 is not as widespread as influenza currently if it does become as widespread experts predict 3080 infection worldwide it will be devastating|0 Sorry I was in a bad mood and took it out on you|0 probably a fetish also which helps|1 Im not suggesting Abe and Co will be the ones to benefit He knows hes on limited time as do the people who put him in the job My inner cynic was suggesting that Abe may be laying the groundwork for something further right than his Liberal Democratic Party could stomachTheres past precedent and you dont need to look far for signs that Abe and his inner circle might be beholden to a more nationalist and authoritarian vision of JapanEdit Words|1 I want to know what the parents were thinking We are meant to love and protect our children not fly them out into the middle of a virus outbreak Even if none of them catch it and they all remain healthy they could still get stuck out in Italy for an undetermined amount of time|1 I have a better chance of Amazon selling me a kit than my government|1 it was able to go through in 15 seconds no wait or hold music How else am I supposed to get info on their criteria for testing when our VP lies in the face of all of us am I supposed to just call them and tell them I wanna gossip with them have a quick chit chat with them|0 Tedros is either a psychopath or an imbecile or possibly both This is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basketwhen you have these organizations that are the end all be all but are actually just frauds to collect wealth WHO wasnt created to save you they were created to pretend that they were created to save you when they were really created to extract wealth from the people|0 If the food runs out all hell will break loose People will be desperate and if they think youve got food they will take it Thats the concern Not zombies|0 Made me crack a smile Have my upvote|1 Ones scared the others dont care|0 Type it in to google its true|1 Thank you for some sanity in this thread That is exactly what people need to understand Feel sick Stay home Most everybody will be just fineThere is no magic pill to treat Corona So at this point no longer in containment phase testing healthy mild symptoms is meaningless|0 Respiratory Med Device Product Manager here for Airway MaintenanceYes people get put on ventilators all the time and then get better Respiratory Therapists perform Spontaneous Breathing Trials SBTs to see if a patient has gotten better enough to be extubated removing the oral endotracheal tube that is in their airway and have them breath on their ownHere is a protocol overviewhttpswwwmdandersonorgcontentdammdandersondocumentsforphysiciansalgorithmsclinicalmanagementclinmanagementmechanicalventilationweaningwebalgorithmpdfhttpswwwmdandersonorgcontentdammdandersondocumentsforphysiciansalgorithmsclinicalmanagementclinmanagementmechanicalventilationweaningwebalgorithmpdf|1 Oh wow thats fascinating Unfortinuately thats true though taking that level of preparedness may be the only way to survive this thing|1 Let the market decide that There are plenty of young and healthy nonessential retail workers sitting at home who would kill for a 15 an hour low skill job at the moment|0 Whilst I agree with your points the jury is still out on how often a headache can be a symptom I wouldnt state without clear sourcing that headache is not a symptom and if you did I could come back at you with various credible sources that is can be although not in all cases|1 Some people have tested positive and have mild symptoms|1 Not the person you replied to but at least in my case been following this since day 1 and have been somewhat hopeful wed have a chance to get it under control Seems like that didnt happen Additionally the two households I split my time between my own which is memom and my bfs household which is himroommates didnt seem to be taking things seriously If Im gonna prep I dont want it to be entirely on my dime Im a paycheck to paycheck type so any help theyd throw down would make things incredibly easier on mex200BGood news my mom agreed to go shopping tomorrow Better news bf seems to be changing his mind and seems to be taking this seriously Talks about how hes gonna have to take a trip to the store and stock up on water and rice and stuff Well see Its still with a joking tone but thats prob cuz his roommates arent taking it seriously shrug|1 Waitam I understanding my chronic asthma of 52 yrs does NOT make me a high risk of this bio weaponvirus|0 This is state media that would be played on local TV and or radio which is then uploaded to a state run YouTube channel|1 Had a bad day today Thank you for this|0 I expected the reference but I didnt expect it to be so well done|1 Verified doesnt mean correct It means it has a source and isnt just Joe Bloggs personal opinion on how the world is ending or how he alone is going to save the planet how officials are wrong etc|0 Hitler wanted to power the state not the individual Seizing the means of productionif you will He wanted the German State to be completely independent and did not support trade of any kind In fact at the beginning of WW2 he and Stalin had a non aggression pact Once Poland came into dispute did that pact dissolvewell that and Hitler started going insane from the sheer amounts of cocaine he was doing|0 But that would take funding and might result in less tax breaks for the rich theyve pretty much defunded everything else|1 Scuse me but who the fuck cares about the US This is Singapore Fuck off idiot Enjoy your daily school shootings|0 Tell it like it is Im not dumb Enterprise isnt a charity whose mandate is to move disadvantaged students around We have that service its called a bus Enterprise is a forprofit company Just say youre changing the requirements to make money and take advantage of changing demand I wouldnt hold that against them|1 Keep ordering just do it by paying over the phone or online Await your order outside or better yet let it come to you and communicate by phone A delivery driver can call you that the food is at your front door Youve already paid so no contact is necessary People forget that there are plenty of people being paid under the table at these restaurants many of them as international studentsworkers or outright illegal theyre going through everything you are except they wont reap any of the government benefits that apply to everyone else|0 Im concerned about prescription medicine My 72 year old mother takes synthroid If we are all quarantined not sure how shes get it|0 Hard to argue with that one I guess|0 There likely could have been not tested for COVID and attributed instead to Pneumonia or Flu|0 Cries in Puerto Rico|0 Top paid game on iOShttpsiimgurcom8Y7c4Bvjpg though it mightve been before|1 As will US governmentbusiness partnerships do through OSAC DSAC and countless other security commerce pipelines|1 Land of the free hahaha|1 Ooh these are very thorough predictions Thanks for posting A lot to consider which is worrisome|1 I am too Ecos is fine but the ingredients on it arent great Check out hypochlorous acidlectrolyzed water its odorless and I swear it will change your cleaning life|0 Good|1 As another person with weak lungs this is a question that causes me concern too|0 And yes maybe private hospital dont have that equipment but they will just borrow it from the NHS and yes the NHS would let them because he is the bloody prime minister He is not going to go to a regular hospital with us peasants|1 Well its 600 dead and my overall estimate for mortality is about 1700 from the DP dataSo yeah including mild and incubation stage cases youre probably about right|0 Fuck em|0 People is doing the same in London and probably the rest of the country It blows my mind how stupid people is|0 Because they are fleeing to their safe houses and bunkers in their private jets but jokes on them because the pilots of those planes have been all over the world and likely have it|1 Correct CFR is the correct measure Current death rate is 6 The serious and critical are upward to 18 and dependent upon care these people die 2060 of the time This is from the official numbers The Anticipated final back of the napkin CFR is currently 913 and without ventilators 18|0 Yes much worse The good news is if people take it seriously be super clean wear personal protection then we can survive until cure vaccines can come out|1 Exactly Drivers wont realize this get sick want the pto and wont get it cause theres no proof it was the Coronavirus cause they cant get the test What a soulless company|0 That article says nothing to confirm the case is from Newbury stop spreading misinformation|0 Taco Bell saved me from hunger on many a late night in college Good job Taco Bell|1 Well thats explicitly denied by the GCSA and theyve explained the epidemiological reasoning behind it so|0 Right Like I just want to know what tf is actually going to become of this|1 You wont be getting any BTS fans are not your average kpop stan Army does charities all the time Millions were raised for BTS UN canpaign Donations are sent by fans on the members birthday on the name of the member or fandom etc This is nothing new for us|1 What you can glean from this entire article isThey do no know yetSo the false hope while true is also a semi click bait title for the article|1 Since its not as deadly and China already seem to be containing it how can you justify 910 I think 10 would be a very deadly disease we cant stop|1 Quoting unfortunately Or at least paraphrasing A lot of this is word for word though|0 I agree 100|1 I disagree Again no one takes into account the UNPRECEDENTED and EXTREME measure that NO OTHER COUNTRY has yet to even come close to replicating People in italy have per capita drastically less doctors and ICU beds This causes more deaths in italy Italians are still going out and socializing At a much higher rate then China weird that italy has a faster rising case count But lets not take any of that into account|0 They dont think anything ill will come to them from The only risksin their mind are markets and biggest fear Losing a reelectionPublic outrage will spill over once everyone knows and who is actually responsible for the death of loved onesYou think people are animals without toilet paper wait until their idleness kills grandma|0 that is very interesting|1 WTF|0 Austria eh Heh gday mate how about we throw another shrimp on the barby|0 Yeah its truly crazy seeing everything on reddit and imgur since early January|1 America loves the HOT fighting Italians|1 Im close My husband would die before hed seek medical treatment or attention for this But Ill do what I feel is necessary Thank you|0 The problem is that you can be sick without any symptoms for up to 14 days hence still spreading the virus|0 All I really want from my government is to stay out of my way and not let me get killed Im not a Trump supporter because I was never sure he wasnt going to get me killed He stops this and he is literally fulfilling everything I want from my government You are out of my way and something that might have killed me didnt Heres my tax money|0 It seems that way Theyre also breeding grounds for infection so coinfection among this group would be even worse than the populous at large|0 thanks a lot guys for your support you can can share tracker link with other to keep them updated|1 Because of the nature of exponential growth It starts very slowly and then goes boomChris Martenson of Peak Prosperity had an interesting analogy to explain this on a recent podcast A drop of magic water that doubles in size every minute placed on home plate of yankee stadium If the stadium was water tight after 50 minutes the seats up in the nose bleeds would be under water But at 45 minutes there is just a few feet of water on the field Up to that point it probably wouldnt seem like a dangerous situation as the water levels were increasing so slowly|1 You could say the growth is viral|1 Way too late As a New Yorker I felt like I was basically forced to buy the subscription a week and a half ago Im sure I wasnt the only one Once things get better I wonder if we can sue They hid key information that could save lives behind a pay wall Its truly inhumane The old New Yorkers that are the most vulnerable rely on NYT for their info I doubt most of them can use reddit and have the articles summarized for them Because of things like this Im just ashamed of having an associates degree in journalism|1 If he did that hed be accused of fear mongering TDS is a real thing|0 Same Clear up to Friday in my State people even some medical professionals were saying its just a bad flu so I didnt panic Then the number of cases went from 1 to nearly 100 in 48 hours Then we found out the hardest county hit was the one my spouse had been commuting to and a bunch of the managers had just flown back from the west coast and werent isolating HELLO panic I have a chronic health condition and my anxiety has gone through the roof in the past 72 hours Im staying home with my children my spouse is only leaving the house to do curbside grocery pickup and now that we have enough in the house to care for all of us for a few weeks no one is going any further than our backyard Weve been monitoring temperatures and sanitizing and Ive been making everyone wash their hands nonstop|1 Lets stop unnecessary tourism That shit is fucking the ecology of many places and also the economy of the local people not the business tho|0 Absolutely The government response is on point Which in itself is saying something because the Austrian government is notorious for not doing anything about anything ever period So the fact that they are acting and acting fast is quite a wakeup call for some people|0 thank you for this thread tbh i bought a carton and told myself if things go to shit in the next couple of days im done with them my mom recently kicked a 30 year habbit|0 The Trump administrations response to this in conjunction with the CDC should be considered criminal neglect The CDC still today is refusing tests to doctors NY state alone has 7 labs ready to start testing today but the CDC refuses to approve them|0 Antibodies are not present early on and are not utilized in frontline test in any clinically relevant capacity They may however be used in contact tracing or to make a diagnosis in the later stages of disease or even after clinical improvement and clearance of virusYou may be thinking of antigen based assays which is the detection of microbial proteins antigens There are several diseases where such assays are used in the pointofcare setting rapid tests for dengue malaria strep throat etc However even if turnaround times will be much quicker compared to PCR such tests are generally not as specific or sensitive as PCR tests which are golden standard and they are actually more complex to develop and validate To my knowledge no such tests are available yet for COVID19 and I do not believe that they would be accurate enough to trust a negative result to be a true negative which is very important when trying to limit spread Negative predictive value|1 although this is nice to look at every country has a completely different pop and geography|1 Will Americans Take this seriously now All of the new cases in Australia are people coming from America There must be a huge population of Americans with coronavirus if all the new cases in Australia are from AmericaAmerica needs to go in lockdown now|1 I am not sure its transmitted through fartsFarts are funny 3|1 Thank her for us|1 They are giving them a flu test if they have flulike symptoms but test negative for the flu its more likely to be coronavirus or something else that can give flu like symptoms But that can decrease the amount in isolation awaiting results if they test positive for flu|0 On the other hand it should never have got to the point where public pressure was necessary Theyre elected to lead which typically involves some sort of proactive responseThen again as a fellow Australia still a billion times better than here|1 I believe she mentions successful cases where it was used|1 Im a NurseDoctor I think I know what Im doingThe problem isnt what you think you know the problem is that what you think you know just isnt so|0 Pretty much every single tech company in the SF Bay Area has instructed their employees to work from home Some even made it mandatory|1 Happy these dirtbag companies finally must pay the piper for trading with an evil regime|0 Im not sure enough cases have been documented and recovered to get any clear indicators of the current nCoV sequelae Id hesitate to draw any conclusions between FIP 229E and SARSnCoV without some clear similarities on the specificsIm quite surprised a nucleoside analog is effective against coronaviruses|1 Yes I agree but many people can stay home For those that can should|1 You do realize a recession hurts all Americans not just the ones you hate|0 God forbid its anyone you know heartless cunt|0 Kids in China are offering to send masks to America to keep the online teachers safe Its so sweet|1 So lets say I am infected and I would go through the typical flu symptoms keeping myself at home say a couple of weeks and then I would what get better Die Depends on my immune system If I am relatively healthy and say in my 30s or 40sIf this is just a flu why the giant panic Doesnt every flu take out a small percentage of the elderly and babies I think I had it already in the fall It was a major flu put me in bed for two days straight|0 Those deaths do assume a worstcase scenario 22 million is in the highlyunlikely situation where the government does absolutely nothing to control the outbreak Youre right that they dont include preventable nonCOVID 19 deaths but the breakdown of the health service is taken into account if I understand correctlyI posted the Imperial College paper on the subreddit earlierhttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdfhttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdfThis is the report of their findings which convinced the UK to switch from the potentiallycatastrophic mitigation scenario to one of suppression more in line with the rest of the world|1 And I wonder if theyll quarantine people returning from places with it that arent banned from travel|1 Seriously fuck Florida I hate this place|0 It wont matter And theyre probably mistaken or lying New cases will always keep popping up|0 If you are wearing gloves touch a public door handle and then touch your phone while still wearing the gloves you have rendered them completely useless Theres no difference in that situation if youre using your bare hands However wearing gloves in that situation allows you to deglove and use your phone The benefit of wearing gloves is that you are way more conscious of when you go to touch your face and would stop yourself from doing it more|0 The antivaxxers have been remarkably quiet lately I guess it just a takes a deadly worldwide pandemic to shut down their bullshit I bet theyre the first ones in line for the vaccine too|0 Good thinking Im posting on every article You found me out|1 hahaha |1 Ohios ramping up for drivethrough testing as well at Cleveland Clinic and Summa locations|1 I am very conflicted about this now I am a pharmacist and should be able to make my own decisions on this but for months the misinformation and panic has drown out the actual spread of the virus but now the actual virus seems to have spread and now its public health and policy makers that seem to be laggingThat being said my family is from China Ive been here since I was a small child and my parents are both sad worried and panicking some unnecessarily Theyre educated so theyre not entirely wrong but theyve morally chained me up to self quarantine for the past 6 weeks already For some reason eating out has been their main target of no go I am still going to work on a daily basis and so is my dad so I am not entirely sure what the selfquarantine even achieves They accuse me of not being able to make the right decision to protect myself them coworkers etc by still wanting to go out and have fun and contribute to spread I got angry with them about the spreading of misinformation panic unwarranted germaphobia thats only possible if you havent had work for months for someone like my mom Nevertheless its been 6 weeks since Ive had any sort of social life havent been to the gym havent seen a movie etc But now it seems like the actual epidemic has caught up We SHOULD be more careful SHOULD take it seriously But Ive already been locked up for over a month How am I supposed to feel if the actual lockdown comes and its yet months before things settle down I honestly hardly care about myself cynicism whatever Ill probably live even if I do catch the virus but I do feel I should do my part to protect parents as much as I hate them coworkers friends etc But on the other hand I feel like the fear and panic has torn us apart way before the virus hasMeanwhile the stores been ransacked of all supplies relating to this masks hand sanitizers alcohol gloves all gone lol|0 I literally bawled down the phone reading this to my mum What a brave and noble guy|1 I wouldnt call the death of a single public figure comparable to a global pandemic|1 Bad journalism You cant use worse case and then just use death rates that are lower than every data point you haveNo where once you remove new cases previous 7 days has death rates under 1 percentDiamond princess comes closest and that is still above 1 percent with critical and everyone got tested|0 WHO experts actually praise Chinas rapid lockdown which significantly reduced the spread of virus whereas US govt ineptitude is in full display even with over months of knowledge of the existence of a virus|1 The bar owners should take responsibility here and close to protect staff from the influx of people|1 Well no one is telling people the truth If I wasnt on the sub I would still think its an old people virus|1 Its abundantly clear what it is and experts have been saying it for weeks There is a shortage of ventilators You need those to keep those critical cases alive which account for around 20 of infections Even then sometimes you are just buying time for them then they die anyway weeks later The reality is we will be forced to triage to a massive scale The younger and healthier you are the more you will be weighted Its a sad and unfortunate reality We also dont know what the death rate is without medical intervention If you dont have access to a hospital we dont know what of cases die They may have an idea That could be the other reason for an uproar|0 I hope no one realizes how obviously staged this is|1 Dont threaten just reply and cc the class|1 I think I actually may have had the extremely mild version of it already and I need good info 2 weeks later am I still contagious I had the symptoms as listed but just very mild versions of them all Am I now immune to the version of the virus I had With a typical virus I know that I shouldnt worry about being contagious and I should be fairly immune to the version I had but IDK if COVID is different A wiki on these questions and others sure would help|1 Cry harder youre led by an antivaxer|0 50 says humanity will be fine|1 All I can think of when I read WoW is World of Warcraft Can someone clarify for me what that actually stands for|1 Let me continue the party|1 with the cdc guidelines of having contact with a positive or overseas travel i am surprised the family was rejected unless they dont live with her or somethingbut i think another issue is testing is a chain one of the people i live with thinks they might have covid due to sore throat fever and exposure to someone who came back from italy and then caught a fever sore throat bad enough to go awol for a few days so far but since the italy visitor is not positive then there is no grounds to order the test for the people i live with if i developed a sore throat cough fever next then there would be no grounds to order the test first italy visitor would need then the people i live with then myself|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Good luck I hope the rest of the EU govts will be sensible and not go down the path of the USA Indonesia Thailand Phillipines The EU sent aid to China early on too and now China is reciprocating in kindThe EU should have fullon cooporation with countries like South Korea or Taiwan which I believe many diplomats already do|1 Im glad they put him in community north they have recirculating ICU isolation rooms I have spent a little time in there with neutropenic fever some years ago|1 Youre not funny either|0 I do think Chinas numbers are likely lower due to one its China and two there are plenty of people that have it and never see a doctor potentially a majority of people That being said to say it will go up to these numbers when the place it started at is not even close to that so quickly just seems to make no sense Will the number get up to 500k 1 million Sure it can But I just dont see how it will right away H1N1 got into insane numbers albeit with lower fatality rate|0 Lululemon is closing their stores and paying staff for all scheduled hours until the end of the month They also have online resources like home workouts to keep you busy while stuck indoors|1 Document then sue if and when you get sick Its the American way|0 Thats fair I think we all understandably have a bit of to much Brexit on the brain|1 An aunt in law is trying to pressure my mother in law 70s already gets bad respiratory problems since forever into going to a busy restaurant Its tradition and she pays and it blows my mind that we have to basically scream at them to stay put Dallas fort Worth area How close to home does it have to hit to pay attention|0 Absolutely not One of the primary reasons to go to a conference is to meet other people in your field and learn from them With a video conference you will hear the talk given by the presenter but you lose the ability to socialize with other attendees Also it is really impossible to replicate a poster session via teleconference|0 At least in NYC they are going to be holding back on evictions during this time Might wanna look into your citystate but I cant imagine many courts wanting to evict either Massive amounts of people will be struggling out of work so it will be bad news if all those people got evicted for any city|0 This isnt far off the price offered for Flu Camp here in the UK Anyone signing up for this should be discounted on the basis of ill mental health|0 Oh god people are going to start selling their own breast milk arent theyFucking lol|0 Quitting what were told I know better have for quite some time|1 Thanks Were here as weve fled from China so it could be worse|0 Man i hope our leader will step up their game to become much better head of country|1 Do you currently live in Iran I sincerely hope not But if you do I think buying masks rubbing alcohol and stocking foods are in order Be safe|1 1 People talk about China being dishonest with their reported numbers while testing somewhat sufficiently2 Meanwhile some honest countries are reporting honest but inaccurate numbers by not testing enough whether due to lack of capability or fear of truth or economicsocial reasons Then theres South Korea that is honest and testing large numbers to at least try to capture reliable figures to make plans to fight the situation Their citizens are for the most part complying and doing what they can to limit the spreadEveryone should learn from South Korea If your country is in category 2 it is just as bad as what people suspect China is doing Except most countries will not be able to apply extreme measures like China for full lockdown to curb cases once they get out of handJust look at Italy despite the efforts is unable to control the situation Some of the people are not playing their part and quite a lot of Italians have escaped from their country mainly to other EU countries My company has Italian executives who flew to Toronto within the last week and plan to hunker down for a bit They are not allowed to come into office for at least 14 days but who knows if theyll be on the streets since they are very social and love to drink|0 I wish I knew which one exactly Ive been really keeping an eye out|1 The problem is youll quickly run out of those parts as wellWhich do you think would run out the soonest I ask because theres probably a huge cache of vacuums maybe even multiple models across a brand or various brands out there that all use the same pump By my completely amateur estimation the humidifier or pressure regulator would run out fastest|0 How can you get a number on that though realistically There is zero data for something like that Especially when people feel guilty for phoning in sick|0 Ohios been strong but dont discount California Washington New York and Colorado Once the states figured out the Fed response was incompetence they really stepped up Wish Florida was on that list but DeSantis is a bootlicker Hell if Miami had not acted to close schools theyd still be open|0 Happy cake day btw|1 dont worry the average internet sleuth will only read the vitamin C part and start advocating for Vitamin C megadoses to fight COVID19|1 IDK the top three headlines on most of the news sites Im visiting today are corona virus elections and the tornado in Nashville Not necessarily in that order|0 If thats your concern why not get involved in campaigning for subsidizedfree fluvaccines or improving your health care system There are limits to what will be accomplished to placing the onus on the individual healthcare is something which truly requires joined up thinking|1 This is chilling and I feel sick Up until this point I had some confidence that we could control this and perhaps we still can but doing nothing in the face of whats happened Italy and China is at best irresponsible and at worst negligent Im not concerned for my self necessarily but I have a 3 year old and my wife is due to give birth in about 6 weeks What happens if one of them get it|0 As someone completely ignorant on the subject why is it harder in many aspects What is it salary working hours social rights|0 Wow this is as dumb as the Post Malone concert in Denver|1 Western media has essentially stopped reporting on the situation here I guess it is so your people do not get scared It is anarchy|1 This This right here They dont give a flying fuck about us YOU DONT NEED AN OIL CHANGE|1 I dont believe so You are a parent of younger children and live one block from a high school and dont know anything about the high schoolWhat I can tell you all sorts of things about my closest high school 2 miles away and my kids are in elementary school Hell I knew a lot about the high school before I even had kids You are desperately outoftouch for what you claim to be|0 Ngl this discussion is freaking me out Im a college student and wouldnt even know what to get|0 It arrived to their house and your mom lost the boxOr do you mean the mail lostit|0 Yes they really do think so|1 Is there a reliable source that lists symptoms and days which the virus progressesI have heard that on the 3rd day of having noticable symptoms it becomes much harder to treat with antivirals and pneumonia begins to overtake the lungs which is why if I knew that as a potential infectee I would want treatment asap|1 Old post time wise so not sure if it will happen but can anyone verify thisSomeone explained that this is the exact same thing that happened with the Spanish Flu and hence the huge decline in mortality over the subsequent few years even without a vaccine on hand at the time He had pretty good sources and numbers to back it up but cant find post atmThat also had if current WHO mortality rate is correct pretty much the same mortality as COVID19|1 Thank you Jack Ma this will really help|1 If the billionaires and corporations paid their taxes the government would be functional like in normal countries and you wouldnt have to beg for a billionaires charity Not everyone has a billionaire in their neighborhood|1 If a certain politician declared a state of emergency it would be At least in the US|0 Yes but it increases your chances of stroke Besides last ecoli outbreak in my country was attributed to romaine lettuce Damned if you do Damned if you dont|0 You would be surprised how many companies want to work with you Its not Disney but my wife and I had a trip planned to Seattle in a couple weeks so we called Travelocity and asked if we could cancel They gave us a full refund including flights hotel and taxes no questions asked I will definitely be doing business with them again once I get the chance|1 Thanks for your input|1 One of my friends is literally its just a cold type Absolute fucking nonce I wanted to curse him out on the groupchat but hes a friend of 20 years so I let it go Hopefully his family doesnt pay the price for his ignorance|1 Italy is where the US will be in about 10 daysWe humans have a difficult time to understand exponential growth It isnt a problem until BAM it is overwhelmingTake a look at thishttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhn2wegrowthofcasesafterfirst50who52 See the bar for Italy were a little more than a week ahead of them|1 Youre definitely not B or AB|1 1 to 4 Jesus how to be annoyingly unspecific They keep changing the rules So we have up to date NHS area daily useless and always earlydelayed 24hour delay daily by countycity district useless because those figures are a factor out general counter always earlydelayedPigs ear to be quite frank Data misinformation|0 This is a strange comparison but its what makes me think some people are programmed like that I support a football team that used to not be very good and now are When we were in lower divisions and losing thousands of fans revelled in it They almost seemed to be disappointed if we won because they couldnt continue to whinge about a bad performance It rubbed off on the team What we need to do Start proactively thinking how I can make things better Maybe for a neighbour who may struggle with kids age illness etc and instead of filling your own cupboards up consider how we can benefit society in its tough times Come together as a community dont be terrified of the community This is not The Walking Dead Dont fixate on the numbers I mean what is the point You are forcing your mind into fight or flight mode and even if you can handle it maybe somebody reading it cant We are going to have suicides due to this Ffs dont be a factor in it I realise realising terror on here may be a defence mechanism and thats cool too Deep breathes not within a metre of anyone else obvs Im going to post thus as a main thread actually and watch the downvotes role in This sub needs to better It is a harrowing time and maybe the government could be doing better but Feck me two extra bags of pasta isnt going to change things for the better What will is looking after each other And maybe at the end of it we all have better hygiene and some new friends and stronger communities Come on people ffs|1 Uggh thats absurd They are even quoting theseepochtimes It doesnt get more fake news than that garbage|1 Agreed For example there is the case in Japan where a man was diagnosed and told to isolate and instead he went out to restaurants and bars to intentionally try to infect other people At least one woman became infectedIf selfishness and idiocy werent common human traits the virus wouldnt have a chance|0 Stay safe out there If it makes you feel any better my company switched entirely to WFH last week and somehow Im sitting here in a house full of kids and we all have symptoms consistent with the China Flu Pretty sure the youngest got it at school and started the cascadeThankfully I was a critical care medic in a former life and have a pretty good handle on the treatment and was able to lay in the supplies and medications that I need to support recovery|1 Thanks Enjoy your chocolate|1 httpswwwbbccouknewsuk51749352 Boris mentioned that One of the theories is perhaps you could take it on the chin take it all in one go and allow the disease to move through the population without really taking as many draconian measures I think we need to strike a balance Jolly old Boris thinks we should just let your mum and dad and your grandparents die Apparently face eating leopards do eat your face|0 This is the Aus government youre talking aboutTheir other idea was to probably send them on a tour to all the hospitals so they can show everyone how theres nothing to fear|1 A lot of people want to for sure|1 Zaia were changing his mind a lot lol|1 Blah blah blah these govt officials are all corrupt and are keeping the numbers to themselves Is it true one of them warned a loved one to leave the city shes in before the quarantine Find out more at my blog and how a simple planthttpswwwplantingtreecomproductsbeatrixfarrandforsythia might be the answer|1 If down the line WHO improves and becomes more critical of Chinas stupidity then they can get their funding backThats not how multilateral organizations work If you take your toys and go home someone else is going to step in and fill the gap Right now the two biggest nation state contributors to the WHO are the US and China Dropping out just means China gets to dictate the terms of global health engagement to the rest of the world|1 This reminds me when I was in Beijing in 2011 and everyone was buying iodized salt Ie regular table salt with trace iodine because they heard it could protect against nuclear fallout from the japan nuclear meltdown that happened that year Anyone else remember that in the news It was so strange to me as an American I was like where are people hearing that that even helps Heres an article I just found from that periodhttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2011mar17chinesepanicbuysaltjapan|1 Ah alright And is it a year of testing or a year until the public has access Im confused with that as well Some sources say a year of testing just to make sure You did say its a year for availability so Im hoping for that|1 I never stated that Trump should be used as an example of great communication based off his leadership Do you read English I stated the I have heard more from Trump than I have heard from my own countrys leader on a national scale Thats it Yes he held a post conference yesterday for his 1B fund but outside of that he has been quite and just answering questions on the road|1 One player Rudy Gobert just tested positive|1 Makes sense guarantees theyre ready for rollout|1 I am so sorry that sounds like a horrific experience So sorry for your loss and to have to go through something like that|0 Everyone MUST write to Trudeau NOW and express discontent over USA being allowed in our country Do it now It takes 2 mins to share your input Could save liveshttpspmgccaenconnectcontactSample message below if you dont know what to say Select topic Health or Foreign Relations Hon Mr Trudeau Prime Minister of Canada I am deeply concerned and disappointed in your decision today to allow citizens of the USA to be exempt from the COVID19 border control measures The USA has a great number of infected citizens more than what is being reported due to their limited testing This decision puts the lives of many Canadians at riskI implore you as a proud citizen of Canada to take stricter measures and prevent any and all americans from entering our country immediately Please do not give in to pressure from President Trump or politics Our lives depend on this|1 What is the cost of lies The cost of lies is not that well mistake lies for the truth But rather that we hear so many lies that we no longer recognise the truth|0 Theyll pretend like they never were Fluers and will frantically clamor for resources acting entitled to it over others Just watch|1 Ok you guys win Coronavirus cant cause any permanent damage to the lungs I admit I was wrong ARDS can be easily recovered from All it does is knock the wind out of you for a little but once they hook you up to the ICU youre good to go All those deaths in Italy werent caused by ARDSmust be something in the water over there|1 This is nothing like 911|0 I think youre spreading hysteria yourself bro If you read my comment again I said Accept Adapt and Move On|0 How many people in Italy have been killed by panic How many have died from the virus How many have a 20 to 40 reduced lung function that survived|0 After Italy scare here in eastern europe stores are notably reduced in goods its not a shortage yet but clearly there were lots of buyersespecialyl for canned stuff|1 Welcome We hope you enjoy your stay but we cant guarantee itll be pleasant|1 This hits home for me as I had to have an emergency csection a couple years ago I often wonder if our health care is overwhelmed the number of additional casualties there will be that wont be reported|1 Here in Atlanta as well People are not taking this serious my hands have dried out from all the hand sanitizer P|1 Just because the Times says something doesnt make it true This is highly politicized and we are coming up on an election Im not advocating for or against Trump just the truth Media on both sides is spinning this instead of focusing on facts and keeping public health the priority We should be unifying as a country to prepare for the spread of this virus instead of dividing further over political differences Theres so much hate and blame instead of focus on what should be the first priority for all of us public health and safety|0 Italian too Pm me any question you want now I go to sleep Im an avid questioner like you so feel 100free Id like to helpBut for now good night|1 This China went through the exact same steps half of Europe is now followingBut somehow our retarded leaders cant learn a thing from other countries The only European state that seem to have done some learning is Germany with its massive testing mirroring SKFirst China locked down areas with full activity allowed inside Then restaurants and such got shut down but that was still not enough Jobs stopped But even that was not sufficientFinally China locked everyone in their homes and only that worked South Italy may get away without the need to shut people into their apartments but just scale down work etc severely But N Italy needs Wuhan style quarantine|0 No Im saying if they underreact people die and noone takes them seriously next time|0 Bmoviex200BThis is straight up Contagion level as far as Im concerned and that had a lot of Alisters I mean when Gwyneth Paltrow gets it within the first twenty minutes of the movie you know its going to get bad|0 We have far fewer but just two of us Hoping to NOT GO OUT|1 America here Theres no federal law that states you get sick and or paid sick days here I can call off work a total of 5 days in a year from the first call off but then once you hit 5 you are put on a 1 year notice where you cant miss a day or youre fired Lovely world|0 Sure yah I only really know Bill Gates from his charity world and not from his management style I think he had left Microsoft by the time I would have been aware of it|1 If I die because of these idiots then I am going to haunt them for ever|0 There is a 1 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you on 20200305 220549 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003052022054920UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfe0arrseattletimesremovespaywallforarticlesfjl972ycontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffe0arr2Fseattletimesremovespaywallforarticles2Ffjl972y2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030520223A053A4920UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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out of context Were all just freaking out because bloomberg didnt bother getting him to qualify his statement with real statisticsTheres been some peer reviewed stuff thats come out of China which is total bullshit Now were just randomly quoting doctors with zero attempt to dig into the factsIts this sort of misinformation that Reddit needs to push back against It just spreads unnecessary panic|0 Too bad we cant find out since were not testing everyone who needs it The House needs an investigation to understand why we refused WHO tests in January and why the cdc is not allowing broad testing but metering them and refusing the pleas of physicians who beg on behalf of their sick patients I want to hear who is responsible for muzzling cdc of the geriatric flying guidelines Its bad enough the cdc head was partnered with Pence in Indiana where they failed to pray the AIDS away they took down the number of tests from the website Ultimately trump is at fault for firing the departments that would have dealt with this Id like to class action his ass for gross incompetence and reckless endangerment|0 Did you read my whole comment my point is when we flatten the curve we are extending the time frame How in the hell is that time frame only 8 weeks|0 Whats your point The NYT is insinuating that Bernie was too stupid to know he was being used by the soviets I dont like Bernie either but theres much better angles of criticism Lazy journalism overall|0 Yeah but what is cdc procedureOk found it for Italy it is 14 days self quarantine|1 No its not Corona viruses and influenza viruses are not the same Just like Ebola isnt the same as the fluThere isnt a legit reason to compare them|1 Wuhan has arguably the third best health system among municipalities in China and it did fall apart It wasnt until China consolidated resources from other parts of the country that the coronavirus was contained in Wuhan|1 And with his Excellent health|1 he is rich he cant be good|1 Well you gotta admit the timing is leading people to believe that I dont believe it but I can see why people do|1 I prefer a crepe style pancake myself With nutella spread it on and stick in microwave for 20 seconds to melt then top with slices of banana and strawberry and totally smother in whipped creamNom nom|0 Death rates dont mean shit if doctors are refusing to treat it Pneumonia DROWNS YOU IN YOUR OWN LUNGS Without proper drugs HIGH doses of steroids antibiotics if needed etc YOU DIE|0 Google what Micronesia actually looks like Search for agriculture|1 Then I dont know Its misleading at best and disingenuous at worst|1 People keep saying thisbut for practical purposes it doesnt set expectations for the public well The experience for the public is about 50 of the people that get it if the current information is correct which I dont have confidence in that either but assuming it is about 50 of people that get it will notice they have is due to pneumonia but will be mild 20 will be severe and 5 will be ICU Now take 5 divide by the 75 that notice they have it and get ready for people to start to question your information|0 As a Madison resident and coronavirus nerd I have been 110 sure wed be getting a case in FebAnd I know its nothing to joke about but Ive been telling my brother its here for like 2 weeks now and now its really not a joke|1 Wear gloves dont ask permission from your manager just do it Try not to touch your face during your shift After your shift remove your gloves using the surgeon technique check out how on YouTube bin them and thoroughly wash your hands When you get home take a shower to remove any virus from your hairfacerest of body that you might have picked up in the store change into fresh clothes and wash the clothes you wore during your shiftThis will reduce your chances of getting sick but obviously gloves are no help if a customer coughs in your face If you can wear a mask make sure you watch on YouTube how to properly wear a mask to maximise effectiveness but masks are hard to come by right now so you might not be able toStay safe my thoughts are with you and everybody else on the front line |1 There are actually investments that make money on the failure of the market Congress is exempt from laws against insider trading|0 I agree the other ones are a bit of a stretch but Alaska is just so visually dominant on the map it looks more out of place|1 Oh absolutely not not worth the lives of the people close to me I just hope that if it is the virus that they get shut down before they go to camera on Monday and cram 100 people into a tiny room that he coughed all over while setting up 3 other shows in the same area already got shut down for testing and Im getting laughed at for saying he shouldnt be there|1 Is it just me or this vid has no audio|0 I was exaggerating|0 No way dude 1 pack for a family of 5 Thats just asking for little billy and Stephany to wipe their tiny butts with leaves and river stones within a couple weeks|0 Yep Its still early and the fact is we just dont know yet I dont believe a word coming from the us federal govt I do know that for sure Im watching closely the news from China about reinfections Im no microbiologist but Im guessing thats when mutations might show more specificallymaybe Wash your hands|1 DianeGabrielle Tremblay a business professor at the University of Quebecs distancelearning school says studies show telecommuting may result in higher productivity and quality of work despite the disruption to routineSo why not implement it now|1 Youre describing incrementalism It doesnt work There is a reason they had to gut this Corporations govern you and they would never let this pass which is why corps with over 500 employees are exempt Lobbyists ultimately decide what passes We do not We get fed enough to placate us from direct action Why do you think no one is mentioning the fact that this bill leaves 80 of workers screwed|0 has exceeded 100k No He said up to 100k based on mathematical models Up to is not exceeding he basically endorsedHe did not Right after saying up to 100k he said the numbers are alarming but theyre likely not true|0 Our state just started allowing us to buy beer here on Sundays 2 or 3 years ago So yes we are insane But ending a program that was working after having been warned of the consequences and doing it anyway is purely evil His initial response to the HIV epidemic his actions caused was prayer Yep thats right were gonna be fighting COVID19 Indonesian style|0 While you were lounging about the hospital for 4 hours did they give you a mask and please keep up updated|1 Ive noticed news takes this path Unconfirmed Twitter reports fear mongering reddit posts unreliable news sources then finally confirmation by experts in major news articles|0 Ok corona|1 Because the measures Trump is going to enact under the Stafford Act are almost certainly going to be as incompetent pointless and stupid as the European travel ban Motherfucker is probably going to try to suspend elections an idea he probably got from Boris who just pushed all their elections back an entire year|0 Some patients have reported digestive distress The virus is present in stool|0 Agreed We were making plans to have my husband go alone when we found out the wedding has been postponed Sucks for them but what a relief|1 I dont see where youre a medical professional either so honestly your opinion is meaningless One person infected is still one more person infected woth a virus that should have never been state side|0 Very China like|1 I love the anecdotes with the weasel words like basically told meYou can do better than that|1 You think state journalism is some bastion of truth Why would the state be immune from bias|1 I agree with you something is afoot It seems so many more people in Wuhan are infected than confirmedtested that even the evacuated foreigners turn out sick Then almost all cases abroad in some way are tied to Wuhanese or people who have visited there Stochastics then suggest the ratio of infected there must be massive this cant be a coincidence|0 True but if more countries had followed your example the spread would have been slowed down even marginally Every day counts with this thing until we have a viable and globally dispersable vaccine But the rest of the EU didnt take it serious enough to hurt economic relations with China|0 So if you suspect you have the virus the best way to get tested is to take a cheap flight to another country get screened and then fly back What the hell|0 Recent death in NJ happened before her test even came back|0 Some Social Democrats have actually adopted the neoliberal ideology quite thoroughly although they do still maintain a more humane side of it by supporting social securityI talk negatively about neoliberalism however it does have some merits There are good sides to making everyone responsible for themselves to some degree but in my opinion this demands strong social security structures Otherwise people who fail out of own actions or bad luck can fall too hard and can never get back to their feet Have to remember that being responsible doesnt care about how you ended up in your current position in extreme form you are always and absolutely responsible wherever you end up in life|1 Youll know if you overreacted if after a lockdown is relaxed the epidemic starts again as so few have immunity its explained herehttpsuploadwikimediaorgwikipediacommons115Covid19curvesgraphic2stopthespreadv3gif|1 My sister in Florida cant find any on the shelves anywhere now now shes had to buy the huge boxes of baby wipes Just say you use 1 roll per day a 30 day supply No thats not going to cut it at all Again you have some families with 7 people in a home and theres no real way for anyone to predict a time frame they can estimate sure I completely support your decision I hope for the ones that have not been able to get anything they will be able to and when you think about the ones that are still saying we are over reacting lol well I wish them the best as well But again my friend I totally agree with your comments |1 After watching it play out in China I was horrified at how out of control it was and the drastic dehumanizing measures the Chinese government took against their own citizens to contain it I knew it would come here but I naively thought the CDC would ensure that community spread would not happen here I thought that would be worst case scenario but likely would not happen I thought selfishly it was good that we were getting this strong warning from China and that because of it we would prepare accordingly Now I cant believe how unprepared we are Lack of adequate testing and clarity about test criteria Mask shortages Our President saying it is a Democratic hoax No clear communication outreach and resources No centralized command rallying and communicating to hospitals schools companies and nonprofits Its like watching a bad movie where everyone makes terrible decisions in slow motion Its infuriating|0 Im not calling those people dumb for going to work and school But look at some of those people around you How serious are they taking it Clearly its affecting the entire world now Why Because we let basic hygiene get in the way and it spread everywhere I understand people need money and we cant all take time off But take the precautions at least if you have absolutely no choice Instead of sneezing all over your desk and your shit all around itwrap a scarf around your neck so you can sneeze into itnot blast your shit all over your hands and then go open the bathroom door in your office building to go wash your hands Ask yourself this question and your friendshow many times a day do youtheythe average person wash their hands People are too caught up and in a hurry Whens the last time you washed your hands properly for 20 seconds Im a chef I see this shit on a daily basis The amount of times i see people not wash their handstouch their facesand just do unsanitary shit its truly scary And none of you see it because they are cooking your food that you continue to wait in crowded lobbies for an hour so you can sit down and enjoy your nice meal Those are the people who come in to work sick They cook for you and serve you your food Think about the bigger picture and then maybe youll understand|0 I did hear it yesterday Its really unbelievable|1 httpstwittercomHeinonmattistatus1234882208101523457This seemd like a pretty neat way to discourage yourself from touching your face|1 I think the whole sing a song while you was your hands thing is cringe Like are people incapable of counting to 20 That being said if it gets more people washing their hands then thats fair enough and a bit of humour never hurts|1 This is terrifying what the fuck is wrong with this asshole|0 Can I get a qrd on the Mikehummus joke I missed it lol|1 If he doesnt get it then there IS a vaccine and this has all been planned from the start Hes around too many people who are around too many people for him to not get sick with his physical conditions|1 He talks like he failed 5th grade English Seriously The irony is that he defines the opposite of stable genius|0 Really hoping your sister will be safe |1 Millions will die across the world because of the sheer fucking idiocy arrogance and egocentrism of the human species|0 Too bad no one listened to Andrew Yang A UBI sure would help|0 This is what we were talking about last night in a study group Im going to look for concurrent liverkidney issues today amongst infected if I can find the info We could be totally barking in the wrong tree with only respiratory symptoms|0 That number would be relevant if 100 of their population had been tested The number of infected is certainly higher than is being reported even without China fudging the numbers A decent percentage of people that are infecting will be almost entirely asymptomatic while still infectious which it why covid19 has been so good at spreadingThe cat is long since out of the bag on this one Highly transmissible even while asymptomatic combined with a fair percentage that will show almost no symptoms and therefore not stay home this one was never controllable All the testing and quarantining will at best slow the spread so that maybe all the patients dont hit your health care system all at once and cause it to collapse Containing this virus was never on the menu|1 Hmmm I am getting the opposite idea the virus does not want to eradicate the host species and you think the virus is going to be less virulent when the host species is on the door steps of getting extinction handed to them or something However the origins are bats and the other thread has bats get better immune systems when getting stressed it could be just the virus has this because of the bat origin Human immune system is no match for bats in the simplest daysNo we agree just a misunderstanding I think I mean that when the host population is doing well the virus stabilizes as well into a less virulent form When the host species is pushed to the brink of extinction then the virus will get a buried switch toggled for propagation Considering the ebbs and flows of species coming and going it makes sense that this feature would be selected for over billions of years Species goes extinct but virus survives in new hostI agree bat origin is not good baseline is already meaner than we can handle then we have the more virulent form emerge and it is off to the races This probably applies to species jumps as well with host target related gene products being subject to hypermutation polymerases among other things Again a buried toggleKind of like a displaced group of humans moving and finding a new place to live when conditions get harsh They get whipped up into a frenzy fight their way in and then settle down there Certainly the mechanisms are different a virus does not think but on a population level it is processing information in its own way These buried toggles are also a kind of memory storage for advantageous behavior given a certain set of conditions|0 Masks are not absolutely safe but they are useful Masks can greatly reduce the chance of infection It is not difficult to use a mask correctly You only need 1 minute to learn it|1 Lots of people live and work overseas They might need to return home and see their loved ones once this is all over especially if they have belated funerals to attend|1 It was being passed in a nursing home in Washington State full of very old and poor health folks|0 Thats not a 100 true If Gilead ever issues more shares higher demand and thus a higher price of the shares will help them raise money|1 Have a lot of money Singapore is one of the wealthiest countries in the world per capitaMuch wealthier than every majorly affected country so far including Italy or Japan|1 No worries I should have explained more|0 Its that pesky moral turpitude clause Its vague and covers a whole lot|0 Why is CDC not urging tests for Covid19 If youre born in the US after 1975 youre tested without your or your parents consent for genetic disorders such as PKU They do mandatory testing to screen babies for genetic mutations wtf not use the same logic to prevent the further spread of the virus|0 And they could quarantine all athletes for 1428 days before the Olympics and anyone that tests positive during the quarantine cannot compete I think they will have it but without spectators Japan is looking at a large loss|0 Thanks I do too she says she feels otherwise fine but the symptoms came on really fucking quickly|1 This thread is about the Fed making a change to the interest rates what does that have to do with the Trump administration|1 Glad we got your conclusions now we can go on about our day|1 Yep that too|1 How popular is it I havent seen or heard anything of it since the initial craze How has the game changed since launch|1 Nah I arrived at Qingdao Airport yesterday from Korea things are still operational there|0 Wuhan is a hot humid subtropical climate I would not count on hot temperatures being a stopper I would like to see how it performs in arid climate as the only cases there so far is the ones in arab peninsula|1 Yeah that is some comedy gold right there my man Have an upvote|1 Thats not capitalisms fault thats human behavior and psychology|1 Im not sure that the death rate is always artificially lower all the way until the end I think that SARS due to its high mortality long tail of treatment and lack of mild cases is AN example of that being true but H1N1 is an example of months of 710 CFR based on who sought treatment and it turned out it was really widespread and a lot of people didnt seek treatmentThe further this goes along the more this looks like a more potent version of H1N1 tbh I know they are unrelated Im talking more about potencyThats still super frightening|1 So how is it that this team has access to test kits and ability to expedite testing and WHOLE Cities dont|1 Ive been passing the time playing Stardew Valley for the 800th time I can be social and spend time outdoors from inside my home|1 I have the theory that it has already begun to spread far and wide in the USA and in about one to two weeks were going to have a collective oh shit moment|0 Well one good thing is that car accidents will decrease as quarantined people will not be allowed to drive anywhee and diabetes cases die quicker so there will be less of them|0 Ibuprofen to treat a fever You mean acetaminophen|1 Except during an epidemic where it also has the possible sideeffect of death|0 I had flu once and I couldnt see out of my eyes or open them properly because of the watering It was awful|0 Look on the bright side Every major city now has an arena that the NBA is not using They will make great makeshift hospitals|1 Poor Americans already die and suffer at ridiculous rates from preventable illness because theres no healthcare coverage Can you imagine how fucked the US is going to be when the virus really takes hold and no one can afford to see a doctor or take unpaid sick days|0 Pence is a fucking joke to lead this and now were all going to pay the consequences of the bad choices made in 2016 Hopefully our country learns|1 Played for the national team too No news about any underlying illnesses but I still suspect there was one However given how odd Iranian numbers look I wonder if her death may possibly have been down to not receiving appropriate care because the hospitals are full especially since this happened in Qom|0 I suspect this is what advertising looks like in the age of covid19|1 Good question Symptoms means patientexperienced subjective changes in physical or mental health AKA things the patients says they feel but that cannot be recorded You can be completely asymptomatic and still be diagnosed with a disease by clinical laboratory or radiologic evidence What they are saying is that kids are walking around without symptoms but still testing positive and showing radiological signs of coronavirus infection and still shedding virusEdit as others have mentioned fever rapid respiratory rate tachycardia and cough are objective signs can be observed and recorded by someone other then the patient Things like headache achiness shortness of breath chest pain and fatigue are examples of symptoms only the patient can tell us these things and we have no way of testing or proving their presence|1 Ear thermometer Thats baffling to me why they wouldnt be using IR if only to eliminate contact If theyre truly not changing the tip or sanitizing between uses just sigh|1 This is very helpful Thank you|1 Really we should just nuke them theyre all dead already anyway s|0 Oh OK I tried through 2 apps and it didnt work for me for some reason|1 No s needed|0 US is different than Italy Were actually more than 9 days behind if our numbers are accurate which they arent Because we are spread out over so much more land 1000 cases in Chicago is going to spread faster than 1000 cases in the entire US Well get there without action and we probably will act more slowly than pretty much any country|1 I think pretty much anyone can come up with a graph proving their strategy is better There are so many research articles out there that are not yet peer reviewed that anyone can simply pick and chooseId love to see the papers on which this graph is based|1 Fire|0 Im in the exact same situation very scared right now|0 I will say that its both a problem and a benefit that this isnt as deadly as Nipah It means it has the potential to spread faster without outright killing a host and in a country very densely populated Hope they get it controlled stat|1 No its the mouth breathing idiots in the sub telling people to cancel holidays to any Asian country or even to European countries people on here have got themselves too scared of even going through an airport|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of 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or concerns|0 If you think youve got it you dont because you think But if you feel youve got it well|1 I actually think they are just going through the motions at this point so they can tell voters they did everything they could Americans have a serious problem with short term memory when it comes to politics They should have been banning flights at the beginning of January when China first announced the outbreak Even then it might not have made a real difference with some scientists saying this thing has been around since OctNov 2019 Im just pissed theyve been trying to keep people calm by down playing it when people could have been altering their daily habits months ago Now we have to play catch up|0 In theory there should be about 20 of people going to the ICU who catch Coronavirus so unless there was a massive overrun at the hospital in December of people who dont have the flu its unlikely theres been an outbreak yet|1 People dont water prep because a disease might come through the pipes they do it a because its always one of the first recommendations by disaster agencies for emergency prepping to make sure you have plenty of drinkable water one way or the other b in case of a severe emergency where they have to leave their homes and may be in their vehicle for some time so theyll keep a case in their car but more so c just in case the situation becomes so dire that treatment plants arent consistently running or service itself is interrupted If cities are being shut down and quarantines enacted that could be a potential problemIm not a prepper especially not a water one in terms of buying bottled but I know a ton of people who freak out and prep whenever things start seeming doomy and the last reason mentioned is usually what they talk about the most|0 Probably uCCPJunkie had his hand in it|1 Remove the head or destroy the brain|0 Unfortunately Im not that clever just lucky|0 Sure since its mentioned pretty much everywhere httpswwwrtcomusa483117senateweekendcoronavirusbillampaoh15842012969235ampct1584201301898csi|1 Until her segment aired my Dad and I seemed to be on the same page as far as this Virus was concerned I had some respirator masks purchased well before the virus evolved and he accepted them with gratitude Now he is like It is no big deal If I catch it I get over it Just like the fluMy dad has gotten a flu shot every year for the past 30 He never thought about it He just did it He said it was common sense Besides he was born 2 months early and has been diagnosed and undiagnosed with asthma twiceI am really scared that he is going to die within the next 2 months If he does it will be because of fn Fox News|0 I feel like this is skeptical He was young and healthy compared to most of the people who have died I wonder if this wasnt just the virus but the CCP having a hand in making sure he didnt survive|1 Smart Gives customers confidence that sick employees will actually be able to stay home|1 Could we at least do small things like this httpstwittercommichalnakastatus1239316241984049152s21|1 He did handle that very well It was kinda annoying how the reporter was trying to get him to say were screwed and that the Trump administration is communicating poorly He did a good job at staying professional and conveying information that will help keep the public as healthy as we can|1 Oh ok|1 We have decided to narrow the definition of a case to people who have both died and tested positive for the coronavirus before their death|0 Cool they have time to recover up |1 I never knew how much of a torture this care is for older people You just assume it fixes the problem or doesnt not that it creates its own set of new problems Ethically I completley understand and agree that resources should be used in a way that will have the best outcome in times of necessity Sadly I also think euthanasia should also be an option allowed to be approved by the family of elderly patients in these situations If medical abilities are over burdened may be the wrong choice ofbwords peaceful death should also he an option I hope it doesnt reach your area|0 Good good I just hear shipping time is long but still something|1 Ignorance and a desire not to be inconvenienced And lets not forget national leadership says it is not a big deal so it isnt Thats where the ignorance part comes into play|1 Im not too freaked out about treating with a high dose under medical supervision with other labsIm really freaked out by people getting chloroquine and dosing for prophylaxis on their own at ridiculously high doses|1 Mods if you allow obvious CCP shills you are doing DAMAGE You are taking part in the coverup of of what could be a millions killing virus|0 Absolutely love this format whenever you post keep it up mate Interesting to see suspected dropping Does that signify higher test efficiency people not going to hospital or people being ruled out|1 The Invisible Hand just gave you the finger|1 I wont lie same that is why I use this over the other Subs This one has the same news and then is broken up by other discussions which is cool to me It is like a multilayered sub and keeps me entertained and informed|1 This genuinely made me laugh Thank you for a spot of humor in all of this|1 we wont spread the drawingoh please spread the drawing|1 You are saying All of these disgusting stuff was going on behind the scene and boiling up to a point and had to release In other countries it would involve a coup de tat an overthrowing of the government total election chaos and much worse than what happened in South KoreaSo the people of South Korea peacefully protested for months on the streets without a single violent incident and impeached President Park Geun Hye She was trialed and is now in prison During that process there was no coup de tat no election chaos no violence not much social disturbance The country elected a former human rights lawyer as the new president Im not saying Korean politicians or the Korean chaebols are perfect But as a whole Korea IS a working democracy|0 A person laugh at me as I had a mask on at Costco today At least I have an N95 mask Good luck trying to get one|1 Additionally318 recovered 1118 severe within Hubei 444 critical Within HubeiWhat does criticalsevere meanhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsevfbmuthedefinitionforcriticalconditionutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|0 I have no knowledge yet I must speak|0 Its hard for petulant children like you to admit youre wrong when given evidence|0 IF people are getting tested I doubt well be able to test everyone who needs it|0 Theoretically this is all good but in reality No they cant even respond to an email explaining the crisis like you just listed educate etc They sent me back an email saying yes we are followjng this issue so dont worry And meanwhile will they even give a talk to the high school students and teach how to properly wash hands No The administrators are good at one thingadministratingnot adapting to new circumtstances At least this is true in my republican state filled with republican brains left insula right amygdala differences make different responses to crisis situations|1 Could they have done it overnight and just dealt with all of the problems that come with that decision as well as the backlash from the its no big deal crowd MaybeNo not maybe They eat the cost Take it on the chin just like every other business that has to close shop around the globe It is as simple as that|0 Fuckin perfect|1 It was sort of a joke|1 One of the late Jan or early Feb propaganda videos showed some doctors chatting and smiling supposedly candid vid inside Hubei One of the docs said he bought a special phone to use at the hospital and that he would never consider bringing it home|1 I work in a pharmacy in a grocery store and I was able to watch the shelf be emptied in a few hours We ordered over 110 bottles to sell behind the counter and were sold out in 6 hours|0 Im wondering if they will cancel all tour dates soon|0 Honestly I am surprised that freedom is much better back home in Europe than here Well besides the freedom of having a gun yes that one is much stronger hereBut it kind of clicks when you realize its perfectly legal to open carry a gun here but you can get in trouble for open carrying a can of beer on the street|1 Would these stats help them understandNo because as we say here Non c peggior sordo di chi non vuol sentire Nobody is deafer than someone who does not want to hear Theyll keep thinking that everyone else health authorities included is stupid and panicking while they are the smart ones because someone has told them that this is just a flu|0 I probably havent actually washed my hands in years outside of taking showersGod damn how many people have you given the flu down the years|0 Is my zip up creeper hoodie good though|1 Oh Trump is gonna fix healthcare gonna make it great agains|1 Just stay home and maintain distancing Most masks other than surgical ones have questionable effectiveness to begin with It cannot be stressed enough that we need to make sure the effective masks go to healthcare workers|1 They really should take the month of May in grade 12 to do real life learning Taxes stock investments ect EZPZ watered down for stupid people for the whole last month Im 30 see the stocks dow all the time and its never meant anything to me|0 Honest question why do you care so much about someones background Either they have sourcesevidence and a logical explanation for the observations or not Obviously the parent didnt provide any of that so the post is not a reliable source of info Their background is irrelevant|1 I mean we dont know that for sure at all one way or another but all signs point to that being not trueLike for instance my antibodies would likely protect me next time Just as a start httpswwweuronewscom20200227coronaviruscanyoucatchcovid19twiceeuronewsanswers|1 Just thought of this one idk if it even exists but you can wear hearing aids modified can be wired or wireless better if no wires to be earbuds Then some guy can talk to you via call For the visual you can have another hidden camera with a telescopic lens if needed focused in on the screen which allows the same guy to visualize and respond to the answers by live feed Or just hide a tiny one in your clothes Works if VM or screensharing is unavailable but you need another person|1 Yeah because the AG came after him lol|1 Wish that people would stop saying that summer weather will kill it off Absolutley not there has been many cases all in Singapore Thailand and other hot Asian countries They only difference summer makes is that hospitals are less stressed from winter related illnesses so they will have less to deal with in summer months|0 Of COURSE they are What would we expect Three same shit happened with Ebola quarantine and thats even scarier There is no force behind it so of course people are going to break it|0 Hey its you again Technically a superspreading event most epidemiologists consider to be 8 so this case didnt qualify assuming we dont find more infected from that index patient Heterogeneity is a good question in most outbreaks R0 is heavily heavy tailed So far nodal studies have not shown this virus to be as heavy tailed as SARS possibly because of its primary vector denser fluidbased It is still an ongoing study though|1 This is a fucking nobrainer If I cant afford to be tested I wont fucking get tested But how dare I ask that the health insurance corporation making several thousand dollars off of my family every single year pick up the tab and actually pay for something because thats socialismAmerican capitalism is literally going to kill my older relatives and yet M4A is an unrealistic pipe dream|0 Every little kindness|1 Very hard The machining for meltblown plastic is very exacting|0 Yes httpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 Obvs I dont know exactly what to do in this specific situation but a couple ideas present themselves one is maybe getting in touch with Public Health England and seeing if they have a scheme to buy them up write a letter to your higherups with other likeminded people getting signatures might be easier in the coming days as this unfolds It could be a really good PR move for the company to come out and say were donating x masks to the coronavirus effort which might persuade people Even if they dont think its serious they can see that everyone is taking it very seriously All the best in your efforts its the right thing to do|1 This is good OpSec but it is worth keeping the situation in perspective In all likelihood in this particular crisis people who fail to prep are going to take risks by getting food at the store rather than breaking into your home and eating your food There will be many people running out of money Food distribution will be organized for them It will be organized too slowly but there will probably not be hungry people kicking doors down in search of foodOther crises have different probabilities of food supply failure|0 I think its important to note the inhumane conditions that those trying to enter the country are suffering I am aware that they are trying but these people are not being isolated but put in rooms with 7 other people who might as well be unknowingly sick The are barely being given toilet paper food or even soap Its great that they are trying to be proactive with the quarantine but they do not have the facilities to have people properly quarantine according to the WHO protocols Also because this news was rather suden people flying in during the announcement are being put in quarantine with all these possibly sick people even if they are coming from places with no active COVID 19 cases link for people living and documenting the Salvadoran quarantine on twitterhttpstwittercompleitesstatus1237562254523916289s21|1 And How was she screeend What was the result Is that when they took samples for lab testing Bascially i dont see any report claiming WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that she was already infected BEFORE she got off the ship Do you know of such a report and do you have a link for that This article says the woman was screened 3 days later after she get off the ship httpswwwfrance24comen20200217cruisepassengersscattertakecambodiabustoursdespitevirusfearsI am copy pastingBut three days later one Westerdam passenger an 83yearold American was stopped on arrival in Malaysia and later diagnosed with the coronavirusIs this false Do you have alink confirming that she was already ifnected on board the shipThanks again|0 As things got worse police were shooting people who went out without masks|0 Im a radiologist at a busy hospital network near an international airport Not seein shit I take it you have no formal trainingOverreaction is good for Saudi and Iran Im not expecting a second exponential rise seeing as China is very dense and has had the overwhelming chunk of the cases with highly developed South Korea with the second most now with few cases trickling in at a time Just bein real|1 Hopefully Tom Hanks and the NBA will finally make people wake the fuck up|0 Fuck these traitors Someone do a meshup of them playing it down|0 Well weve only seen the one restrospective look at bloodtype so well have to see if it pops up again if other researchers see this and can compare with a new dataset|1 Stop|0 I dont disagree with all of your statement but saying they only care about the economy just seems false considering measures imposed lol Are you a conservative by chance|1 In China a 36yearold man who had been confirmed to have the new coronavirus and was discharged from a hospital in Wuhan on February 26 has died according to the Chinese publication the Paper who cited his wifeThe man suddenly became ill on March 2 and died after going to the hospital The cause of death was respiratory failure caused by the coronavirus the Guardian reports|0 And China probably wont do anything about it because they dont give a damn about their prisoners My guess is it will be worse than the cruise ship because I doubt they are going to give treatment to the prisoners|0 I got email from the STEPS program advising all US citizens to depart from China by commercial means if possibleTravelers should be prepared for travel restrictions to be put into effect with little or no advance notice Commercial carriers have reduced or suspended routes to and from China Those currently in China should consider departing using commercial means The Department of State has requested that all nonessential US government personnel defer travel to China in light of the novel coronavirus|0 You guys are moronsCDC was already fucked up The pandemic response unit never even planned to contain a pandemic They were worthless Trump got rid of a few positions 3 in the national security counsel Not an entire branch of the CDC Bunch of fucking idiot morons who believe what the media tells you You guys are gullible sheep Disgusting the level of idiocy of people in our country Embarrassing|0 This is monstrous I hope the danish authorities wont go easy on them whenif they get their hands on them|1 Its bad but like not marathoncancely bad|0 But Should not be better to let them stay there Is quarantine only for the normal folks on Wuhan|0 Hell blame it on the media and Democratics|0 This is the first thing since hes done as president thats actually shocked me|0 They are doing it because if you knew how many people were infected the US would just break fucking down Its already starting and you have less than 100 people confirmed its likely in the tens of thousands Heres the thing most people will get over it but it will stress the healthcare system Some people will die because theres wont be enough oxygen ventilators to go around If you look here httpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofOECDcountriesbyhospitalbedshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiListofOECDcountriesbyhospitalbeds South Korea and Japan have over 5 times the amount of beds per 1000 people than the US does and they are still struggling to stay on top of it TLDR Its already here in mass numbers they just arent testing everyone because they dont want panic Good news is its a flu Wash your hands dont go into large crowded events and most likely youll be okbut not everyone|0 Congress has socialized healthcare already No changes needed from their perspective|0 Ah if only 15 days was long enoughId be nodding contentedly if these quarantines of cruise ships of American evacuees from Wuhan and of millions of Italians were at least 28 days|1 Northern California resident here lets hope so|1 And its free|1 Yes since when has Hand Sanitizer become a collectors item with a corresponding price|1 You cut peoples water off in America if they are too poor Thats inhuman|0 Its the same at the busy massage clinic where I work form both employees and clients coming in sick Its just a coughcoldWe FINALLY put up signs at the front desk asking people to reschedule if they come in coughing and sneezing It has been just ridiculous|0 No erective|0 he always looks sick|0 Yea last night the dude checking people out at the grocery store with a weird dry cough joking about its another Ebola scare to control us or some shit And how its not deadly really anyways|0 Agree Cool heads had they taken action earlier in China would have stopped this outbreakI doubt Trump will let this go without action since hes not a cool head|0 What good will testing do Lets say every person in the US managed to get to their doctors office waiting room is a Petrie dish and snag a nonexistent test So what Ive been reading that there are false positive and false negatives and people are sometimes contagious without having any symptoms So what is the point of testing We have no treatment Numbers change nothing|1 Elaborate pls|1 The Age ofApostasy has begun The hour of rests cousin has come Before the age was celebrated with passion and ecstasy but now only white bones are produced The Conspirator seeks the throneKnuckles cast man allotted the End Of Days Thus it shall be Watch for the signs What signs these shall be I say unto youA fierce comet is to leave the heavens it will go to Saturn to Jupiter to Mars to Venus and Jupiters new moon of Venus The plague will not fail on the earth Even if it was spread all over the universe it would only last 3 years but it will come to pass in the 21st century its life will be longer than that of the disease itselfA pestilence of famine to spread throughout the lands and the fat will fall of all beasts All his lands will be parched and then the people will perish of hunger In the first year of the 21st century will come another flood that will cover the whole earth and make the sea black Death plague and famine will overwhelm the nationsEvery way will be filled with the poisonous festering pit of sorrow in which the footsoldiers of the Lord will feast as the armies of the devil feast Every high place every promontory will fall into the mire of the poisonous festering pit and all the plans and dreams of men will fall back upon this quagmire into this dark abyssThe city will be attacked by a night army and a horseman with a sword will enter the city and will steal the car of the Pharaoh and the sacred pyramid which contains the hidden keys of the underground passagewaysThe Beast will devour the moonThen will occur a man to whom nobody is given from a people formerly common among the villages who will feed these dying ones with honey as if they were heaps of grain and the people will believe that he is the god of love Then the parched bones of the multitude will receive the full milk of youth and then they will have been under his geas Hark the Black Army|0 Look at the data on this years flu The influenza wiki Scroll down to history Compare it to the seasonal flu At this moment our numbers are already high this data is based off on flu surveillance systems that track pneumonia and flu like symptoms across the US not actual confirmed cases of the flu People have most likely been dying to this for months in the US|0 Not as great news as it sounds It prevents cell entry It needs to be taken before the person is exposed to the virus Its good news for us who have to be in Contact with patients Otherwise we have to produce enough to give everyone in the world to make use of it|0 Yeah give yoga a try I do it right before shower and bed to help me sleep That anxiety keeps me up sometimes Now that Ive learned a few moves I just wing it with some waterfall spa music and light a candle If you have to go to the supermarket I recommend making a list and go early I need to go soon too but I had also bought a few lbs of oatmeal I suppose I could eat if I really dont want to leave the house|1 You are comparing reality with what you saw in a movie Dont be an idiot Outside of wuhan Corona virus is a minor issue at this point I have been in Hong Kong Thailand and now Malaysia and its business as usual minus tourists who are being scared into canceling their trips by people like you who are fear now the people planning cruises at a time like this need to rethink things|1 i think its more about they didnt know how it would progress so they tried it way earlier than notthis is very new so not something they can be experienced to say we dont need to do this drastic thing until this has happened|1 yes it is I tried to convince my older parents that they may want to come back now but unfortunately they are not convinced it is a threat to them|0 It is technically possible to engineer something like this but the sequencing we did show no indication of this and a much more likely case that it is just mutated bat virus due to how close the genomes are|0 You are if you give a fair tip|1 Its already starting My friend was working as a medical scribe and they just laid off a lot of nonprofessionals in hospital settings to reduce their risk Shes very scared about the future rn |0 I really hope FHM know what theyre doing but it honestly feels like theyre just protecting the stock market at this point|1 Eh nothing wrong with thatLouis Rossmann repairs MacBooks for a living but uses a Thinkpad in his personal life|1 This is what most people are getting wrong about this virus It is not just about the old or illInfo is still growing but infections seem pretty random except less children than expected and serious cases appear to only be skewed slightly towards older people smokers people with lung some specific illnesses etcMost of these will get great medical care in western countries and survive I hope with limited sequelae or ptsdBut heres the thing imagine OPs parents turning up to a hospital where thousands of cases are already being dealt with doctors are thin on the ground vital specific equipment has already been allotted to other patients beds are not available and they are sent home with meds for their family to look after This is the situation Wuhan found itself inMy hopes are with Ops relatives|1 Born and raised near Oberlin now reside 25 miles from there completely different dynamic|1 Are people able to apply for unemployment|0 I fully agree Im not American but I think the best thing for everyone right now no matter where you are is being unified as people Prejudice and hate are huge enemies when it comes to fighting pandemics|0 In North Korea they execute quarantine breakers I mean they also excute people for like not saluting their leader but breaking quarantine is definitely an execution worthy offense in NK|1 Been here since the spongebob meme Yeah Im pissed If we were taken seriously this would not be so serious|0 One cynical way to read this is less economically critical places are control groups for containment measures If strict containment doesnt provide enough benefits to justify its social and economic cost less strict containment such as what shanghai is doing may be optimalSlow down spread without killing the economy while medical solutions are being worked on|0 everyone working there is already immuneThe virus has a tendency to reinfect people There is no immunity Theres even a paper out there that hypothesizes that the virus might hide in the nervous system and reemerge laterThere is no advantage to contracting COVID19|0 I dont believe anything from the Communists Chinese dont have true statistics regarding this coronavirus anyway|0 Were in Chicago thank you for that|1 Great newsexcept I never thought I would ever dis like a roll that Mr Hanks was playing Playing as The Colonel Ugh Hate that guy|1 No they didntThey just dropped bombs and destroy entire societies in the middle east resulting in millions and millions of refugees and flattenened entire cities Also those are death camps those are reeducation centers The idea that you think people are being systematically tortured and killed there comes from your bias linking it with Nazi concentration camps which again are a western thing like Guantanamo bay and Abu gharib Do I even have to mention slavery To this day the blacks are still largely disenfranchisedBut believe what you want You deserve to be ignorant and bigoted Its why you get trump and its why the US is largely in a state of decline similar the the last third portion of the Roman empire and similar to the British empire|0 Officials refuse to test people in Japan How can they expect people take their orders seriously|0 Internet usage is minimal it downloads workloads in advance runs them offline and sends them in Workloads are 70 MB every few hours Negligible for most reasonable internet connections|0 Im here in Korea Im actually very impressed by the effort and transparency Korea has taken in this matter I feel safer here than back in Canada|1 There has been claim that airborne exhalation only has not been considered a transmission vector Where has this been reputably and positively identified as a transmission vector please|1 The poor have medicaid so most dont have problems accessing healthcare|0 every Chinese know thisWe warn the world 1month agoNo one takes it seriouslyEveryone is laughing at usWithout any preparation|1 Well soon as the governmentcities whatever close everything aside emergency services then sweet If we keep acting like its a shiny sunny day and everything is normal shit all will happenThey already restrict travel in winter on bad roads so restrict shops from opening|0 Well that didnt work out very well now did itDo they not understand markets are made of people|1 If you live in the US I honestly dont think food will be much of an issue Its not like we import it Now masks and medicine is what you should be stocking up on|1 You wouldnt characterize shutting down most or all big gatherings shuttering restaurants except for drive through or delivery and shuttering ALL theaters bowling allies clubs etc etc as aggressive Not to mention the working from home thats going on and the shift from in person to over the phone meetings People are shaming others now for having big in person meetings that could have been emails or conference calls i have first hand experience with this and from what I am reading this is becoming the trend Shutting down the criminal justice system for the most partSeems pretty aggressive for a western democracy|1 it absolutely is Pray daily|1 Shows why testing everyone is meaningless maybe just assume everyone is infected and reduce travel|0 Well that escalated quickly It hasnt hit CNN yet|1 50 tests on their organization WTF I was going to come in and say that the Jazz players pay Oklahoma income tax for every game they play in the state and if they are showing symptoms but why would they use 50 tests It does sound like they didnt have anyone else to test though|1 As someone who works in front line health care this is true People with flu like symptoms may be tested if there is a strong history to suspect potential CoVID19 exposure even if they did not travel|1 Oh wow Never thought they would be richer than Bayern|1 Lol from the viruss perspective existential question do they have perspectives God forbid dog owners have to skip a show theyve been brushing their dogs 42x a day for since last year Im a dog owner but compete in obedience so I dont do all that brushing Poor people|0 You are only factoring in one financial calculation that of death The sick and permanently disabled due to lung damage needs to be also factored in and may be a larger number than the death toll|0 I spent years exposed to my partners work in public relations She was trained to identify the angles and exploit them in favor of her clients This is nothing surprising You are demanding a fantasy reality|0 No everyone needs to calm the F down Just because we dont know 100 why the total amount of people with the illness has increased to 6 in the whole of Italy doesnt mean its popping up at random thats impossibleIm in the UK and we have 9 confirmed cases and that was over 2 weeks ago One was at a university where they were in close proximity to plenty of other people and ALL people that person came into relative contact with has tested negative tested people number in the thousands Also every confirmed case so far in the UK has recoveredThe majority of cases show mild symptoms and recover the people most at risk are the elderly very young or people with serious preexisting conditionsMight i remind you all the Ebola was WAY worse with up to a maximum of 90 death rate average of around 75 in some areas with a 13 18 transmission rateThis COVID19 has a transmission rate of 22 roughly and a death rate of 2 Influenza has a 013 death rate but has transmission rate of 10 Influenza kills hundreds of thousands a yearEven if you did catch it you have a 98 chance of being absolutely fine You have a much much higher chance of dying in your car today or any day than dying from thisChill and just dont start licking people who are ill|0 You shouldnt need to donate anything unless you want to of course just use oldest stuff first and dont replace until you have the amount youre comfortable with|1 Happy cake day|1 Sadly theres local elections in France this week end and the government is too up its own ass to decide a quarantine that would cancel them|0 Cant tell if being sarcastic Looking at profile just opened up a whole world of new questions|0 Side note you have a much healthier immune system|1 In Spain a doctor was caught redhanded trying to lift several boxes Hippocratic oath and all surely he intended to generously distribute the masks to homeless and low income people sEDIT inserted low before income last sentence|1 look at the graph againdont focus on the high point The Spanish Flu isnt what I found most interesting about this graph|1 This will take a lot of the pressure away from hospitals having to compete with the public in securing mask supplies Really looking forward to this going into mass productionIve also seen reusable face masks that are probably not N95 rated but would be good for casual use We should be making more of these for the public to use instead of driving up the prices of surgical and FFP2N95 masks|1 In my opinion you are wise to try to avoid it for as long as possible while scientists work to find a treatment and hospitals eventually clear out Id be concerned about apartment living though especially if there are many apartments in the complex|1 I dont check my phone anymore if I wake at night Ill end up here and not sleeping|0 Could be Could even be too strong in one patient and to aggressive in another Research is not completed yet But it was an issue with the SARS vaccine in mice|1 Yesterday the claimed 60 people in total That is not a lot If you found other numbers share them but 60 is the ony thing i saw|1 Correction COVID confirms it is Kristofer Hivju positive|1 With the cholesterol and blood pressure Reduce your salt intakeSmall drop in the ocean for your anxiety but hope it helps a little|1 6 Autopsies actually but your point is correct it took the worst cases and applied it to everyone|0 It does The question is how the presentation of the virus changesA virus can mutate and function exactly the same as it did before with the exception that it circumvents antibodies against it allowing reinfection This is largely what the flu does the symptoms each year are largely the same but because of slight reorganization it is able to reinfectThe flu could theoretically mutate into something radically different but we know from experience that it doesnt really do that Its hard for us to know which changes to nCoV are within the realm of possibility due to mutation Most likely it wont change much but were remaining vigilant in order to avoid assuming anything too soon|0 My company is waiting until they see how bad it gets Even though MIL and CIV were sent home|0 Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than thatGeorge CarlinNow imagine how stupid the average American is|0 And tired of wasting my 3 per month Medium views If it is on Medium it had better be breaking news before I touch it|0 Yo send this to the OldSchool Runescape community they will do this shit will mindlessly grinding fishing or something|0 Correctone only have greater chances of survival than otherwise|1 can you ellaborate i think trying your best to not be close to people right now is all anyone can ask especially when breathing hard etc as the post above saysim still seeing runners and cyclists all out and about in groups together still im pretty sure they can run and cycle solo|1 Even the simplest thing of tying a knot around your head like a cowboy bandanna would be better than nothing Such cloth covers are poor at stopping small virus particles but keep in mind that the virus is often attached to larger particles that a cloth would stopA cloth mask would be particularly useful when worn by people who were infected The amount of virus an infected person sheds would be vastly reduced with even the most basic of bandannas tied around their face Just blocking coughs and sneezes would be hugely valuableThere is absolutely NO reason for officials not to mandate EVERYONE wear bandannas over their faces this very instantThere are tonnes of guides for how to tie a bandanna over your facehttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvLj0jQaFXitchttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvLj0jQaFXitc|0 And feet Just throw the whole thing away lol No but really its socks too|1 Pretty sure it already has done|1 They arent and that they are pro athletes is purely incidental They could have been any group of people that were possibly infected and had been in contact with a lot of other people Whether they be basketball players ballet dancers or factory workers it doesnt matter it was the circumstances that gave priority not their occupation|0 There is no reason to believe any publication including The Washington Post is above questioningYeah youre right The Washington Post is fake news Anything from the government is fake news Believe nothingYet another chucklehead who thinks the Washington Post isnt credible enough for him but some random anonymous poster on Twitter is|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yeah sanitation is a big one and lack of vetting when it comes to safer produce|1 Sure is when people are getting infected then traveling across the country WASC like wtf I swear the virus is making people travel|0 I have that exact virus right now Im just at the end of week two so barely starting to feel human again Not fun to be this sick and spend all week at home hanging out on the coronavirus sub I was sure that I had it|0 Crazy|0 The American people need to crack down on politicians that put their own careers ahead of public safety They work for us and we dont have to put up with it The more we let it slide the more normalized it becomes|1 So basically a calling dead has the chance to be tested|0 Hey man I work on a computer literally all day and am bored at work If you need a chat Hit me up pal Im in Toronto|0 Inhibit not stop But also inhibit progression from zero it seems|0 I bought extra litter and food 2 weeks ago bc I saw someone else mention dont forget your pets I might get another case of can food tomorrow but she only eats half a can a day and can survive only on dry if necessary|1 Nation of indebted wage slaves Bit of a shock when the smoke and mirrors disappear|0 use ecoasia they regreen the planet with profits and it spread out your info so google doesnt have it all|1 Ya right lol with all the chaos right now people wont even notice|0 2 weeks away from crisis point|0 I predicted a while back that economic disruption would kill 10x as many people as the virus I think I underestimated|0 And I almost regretted not going sking to Switzerland this year Not any more|0 Youre right someone in my family is a sales rep I wasnt being fair It was just a throwaway joke I should have said banker If fact Ill edit it|0 httpswwwnbcnewscombusinessbusinessnewswhyhavemore1000ceoslefttheirpostpastn1076201httpswwwnbcnewscombusinessbusinessnewswhyhavemore1000ceoslefttheirpostpastn1076201The last big wave of CEO departures came in 2008 at the start of the financial crisis|0 Lol this is so painfully laymens|0 This is the real story Companies took on too much debt thinking nothing bad would happen to them rates have never been lower And politicians made or backed financial policy decisions that were unnecessary for the market conditions They all gambled that any fallout would come after they got their reward expansion big contracts reelectionBut now they will be at the mercy of those who had the insights or good fortune to have the capital both financial and social to catch things that will get flushed down the drainWhat we will see from this catastrophe is a significant redistribution of power and wealth Probably for much longer than months and even years from now|1 Do you guys think at some point there will be a travel ban from all countries traveling into the USA|0 The thing is that covid19 did not spread as fast in countries like IndiaYet|1 Well thank you for letting me know how your feel|1 In Brazil the potentially infected PRESIDENT is shaking hands of supporters egging crowds to do political protests spreading news that COVID19 is just hysteria and criticizing governors for damaging the economy by enforcing pandemic control measuresMost of the people supporting the guy are 30 and up This is not going to end up well|0 CCP being Chinese Communist Party|1 No fool what would give you that idea What is so difficult for people to understand that not all testing always functions perfectly|0 Its a 9 mortality rate as of now on closed coronavirus cases 39 mortality rate on all cases This is really scary shit|0 This proves the abject failure of the market system to allocate goods and services The sooner we realize the crippling weakness in the face of not just crisis but massive inefficiencies in general life we can render ourselves impervious to any such problems in the future through a transition to a total command economy such that we can actually make sure everyone gets what they need not just the rich and famous|0 There isThe active ingredient curcumin now has a shit load of science behind itA pubmed search will show just how muchBrilliant anti inflammatory among other thingsThe only question is bio availability of supplements etcBut no it likelyMakes zero real difference to CoV19 Whats happening is cases are being called what they all are in IndiaBird flu|0 Upstate people should be furious too He cheated Buffalo and taxpayers out of nearly a billion dollars building a fully functioning factory for tesla including equipment purchased by the state in exchange for less than 500 jobs that havent been fully hired yet And worse tesla seems to be backing off the factory Panasonic is pulling out as theyre producing their solar roof in china instead They actually just removed a third of the equipment taxpayers paid for and are trying to sell it pretty good deal considering they lease the factory for 1 Some of his cronies are already going to jail for the land deal part of it This is a single example but he has repeatedly fucked over non city voters as well|0 Taiwan strait is a great natural barrier The invasion will be harder than Normandy Nevertheless nobody like war|1 Trump was very scared Scared the Orange paint right off his eyes|0 Fucking useless EU we need the Chinese to do somethingreally pathetic|0 Anyone who cared to look January 25th was my Oh Shit moment I started preparing for this the next day If the plan was to stop us becoming a country to avoid they would have had to taken some form of preventative measures that arent even taking place now Im no expert and I could see this coming and understood the seriousness of it just by the videos surfacing on youtube and twitter so the British Goverment must have known way before an average joe guy like me This isnt our goverment getting caught by surprise with this they are intentionally trying to infect 60 of us Remember wash your hands prepare to lose a loved oneEngland 2020 |0 The concern is not about the sample its about the packaging If someone infected is testing themselves wont they contaminate the packaging Then the packaging will be touched by the courier and every other person handling it|0 He hasnt been on my news though and Im here to gather information meaning I dont have much information so can you not be like a condescending prick|0 im just glad that you did|1 I dont want to give you shit for how you voted but the man genuinely believes vaccines cause autism Im not supremely critical of his actions so far on the pandemic but generally speaking he cannot be relied upon to take the advice of experts because he thinks his own success trumps expertise|1 Yeah and thats my hangup A severe case will kill me Ive already done the ARDS on a ventilator with a hole on my neck thing onceI hear enough about how I shouldnt smoke from doctors Dont need more from here|0 Just because we use cheats doesnt mean were not smart |0 Yeah if this doesnt get everything kicking into high gear I dont think anything could|1 Exactly In Italy zero warning boom you are now at home with what you have in your pantry Ask people if they are happy with what they have in the cupboards They still think that they will be able to go shopping Oh man In the UK they had a game show called ready steady cook where you were given 3 items of random food to make a meal I guess thats good training to the UK public|1 Probably so My worry is that British Keep Calm and Carry on will costs lives No one wants to be a weirdo stock buying things I watched a woman today in pound stretcher make 3 attempts at buying some antibacterial surface wipes Only as I walked past her and put 10 in my basket became brave enough and put 4 in hers People come to work with coughs and sneezes all the time because they carry on etc We already hear about people who have been told to self isolate who just nip to do their own shopping because they dont want to trouble anyone It will have to get really really bad before attitude changes|0 What the fuck Why is there even interest These are literally emergency funds|0 Hello neighbor Im in Arkansas and even here I havent heard people saying such nonsense Be safe|1 Is there official guidance on delivery services and risk to deliver groceriesessentials especially to an atrisk elderly population Is it better to take delivery than going outside|1 Too late is exactly the kind of vague term that breeds fear and anxiety without doing anything productive What does that mean exactly Are you saying every single individual in your community will be infected Even so that doesnt mean everyone will die nor that society will break down Society has survived plagues that killed 10100 times as large a portion of the population as this disease That doesnt mean it isnt serious but have some faith Society exists because people would rather not just all roll over and die and that tendency wont vanish because of a little ignorancex200BThe thing about the hoaxers and deniers is this it is now and has always been about how does this affect me Thats why conservatives are more prone to this thinking Why care about the poor if you arent one Why care about minorities if you arent one Why help China with a disease if you arent Chinese Its all about me me me my my my etc Right now this disease isnt affecting them either because it hasnt arrived in your community yet or because the incubation period means nobody has noticedx200BBut it most likely will and once people realize this can affect them personally they will change their tune and FAST And of course the vast majority of them will not acknowledge their hypocrisy instead they will immediately start demanding the very protections they wanted to deny everyone else Because now its personal x200BYes theyre incredibly selfish Yes this selfishness will increase the harm done by the virus Thats why everyone is saying this attitude will lead to unnecessary death because it will More people will suffer as a result of these selfish individualsBut the incubation period is simply not long enough for their selfishness to last It cannot ever become too late Perhaps if the incubation period was 6 months and the CFR was 99 then yes I agree civilization would be doomed But those numbers are wild fancy Even with much lower lethality the still high but much lower incubation rate of COVID19 means that a lot of people will change their mind very quickly when they reach the right part of the curve And they will reach itespecially given their selfishness But that part of the curve is not too late to save societyIf you want specifics from an amateur not an epidemiologist nor a soothsayer the selfish conservative approach will get you Italy results or worse but not too much worse and the correct response will get South Korea resultsIn theory a complete lack of response could lead to high infection rates you may have heard 70 bandied about But that would require FAR more than an incompetent President and some selfish ignorant assholes That would require that every single government organization and individual willingly exposes themselves to the virus even after weeks and months of completely overwhelmed hospitals and a mounting death toll Nobody is that stupid Nobody These people are being ignorant because they arent seeing consequences in their community yet When they do they will change their tune They are not brave they are cowards They are evil pathetic cowards so afraid to face the truth they will allow others to die needlessly before demanding they themselves be saved If they survive they will never repent or admit wrongdoing But they will mostly survive exactly because of said cowardiceSociety will survive The only question is will we learn anything from this|0 no such thing as norm or not or shame or culx not giving a sht do can do be any nmw and any be perfect|1 China lied|0 I read last week theres only 4k empty ICU beds in the whole of the UK|0 Morgan Freeman It didnt turn out well|1 although they arent rated for use dispersing the jet of air to your mouthnose creates a lower pressure which might be less likely to pull virus and dust particles towards your face Additionally the water droplets are more likely to bump into something So its seems a lot better than nothing to me|1 This will never work in the US 100 at least 5 of Americans would be like FUCK YOU ILL GO WHERE I WANT EVEN WITH THE VIRUS Or wont believe or something and fuck it all up|0 Reminds me of bringing up Castros Excellent educational system or something like that Bernie ignored all the bad things about communism And glorified that literacy program|1 So Statistically speaking at least 13 of my extended families gonna be infected Or all of usor none of us by these numbers|0 Thanksbe safe|1 Damn after reading 72 different ways this thing will fuck my body up Im kind of sweating now|0 My 290x is ready for some serious computing|1 Dont like this Vote Democrat Trump cut funds to the CDC two years ago because he thought it was a waste of resources |0 Shit if I could I would pass you my bowl right now Even though Im continents away|0 Just genuinely wondering why its a good country to get robbed and quarantined in Lol|1 Good for Canada |1 Seems it went from hidden on Fox News Then today it is like the main 10 articles on their site Conservative convention goer gets it and it is finally newsworthy|1 Sad but Yes|1 Except people wont do any of that until they are personally affected by this in some way And at that point it will be too late but better late than never I say|1 Ill just pray it doesnt come to that Seriously |0 Crazy to think that should a vaccine not be successfully made or the virus mutate too quickly and humans cant build up a good immunity that this could essentially be our future when traveling for the next 10 yrs or so|0 Wow|1 I could see that happening A year later when a vaccine has been deployed the Drs might crunch some numbers and some thousands of extra people will have died because of our incompetent response But by then the danger will have passed and nobody will think to follow upTBH I dont think it will go this way We have the best scientists in the world and they will find a way around whatever nonsense the current administration throws in their way Were going to know exactly how bad this thing is in the US very soon|0 As far as Israel goes these guys actually believe Korea is the New Israel and thats actually pretty common in Korean cults But the big churches are like what you described a onesided love for IsraelRegarding the second part youre right|1 No they had tests The test magically appeared when he mentioned contact with a confirmed case|0 My apologies it wasnt the Red Cross it was UN peacekeepers httpsenmwikipediaorgwiki2010sHaiticholeraoutbreak|1 My GPU is overclocked to the edge of stability under watercooling and doesnt crack 50C Thermal cycling is the real killer of parts though not running them constantly|0 Oh thats a tougher flu|0 thank you for self quarantining yourself many of those who have health issues and are in older age groups appreciate it|1 2016 D Llysine acetylsalicylate IV Aspirin glycine A potential antiviral agent Is there any clinical evidence of this effect in individuals being treated with oral doses of AspirinHow does this fit with the issues seen with IbuprofenIf this research holds could this be a cheap way of slowing down viral replication to enable individuals immune activity to clear the virus or reduce viral loadsHow would the blood thinning properties affect individuals who have progressed to pneumonia and if this does have the effect of worsening outcomes in the later stages of the disease would a cutoff point mitigate such a risk|1 Were screwed right Like how many headlines a day are COVID19 fuck ups |0 ikr Kudos to the writer this is just fascinating|1 The US is literally the least dependent country on the planet for international trade Throw in Canada and Mexico and North America could go full successful isolation Not without pain Just a lot less pain than anywhere else|0 Renal failure will happen in final stages of Corona too|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on 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now we probably get 15 deliveries a week Now were getting zero Weve already saved like 600|1 Scientists and doctors talk about Coronaviruseveryone laughsRandom celebrities talk about Coronaviruseveryone takes it seriouslySometimes it feels like Im just a character in a 3rd grade movie|1 At 10mill they dont give a fuck youre too small but yeah they wont let you At 500 theyll look after you|1 Woah relax its not that serious that you have to be frantic|1 You really think all this matter by whos in office lmao morons 2 sides 1 coin dont matter whos in office its all the same|1 Thing is no one is saying that They might be saying that for many people the symptoms dont really go beyond the normal level of the flu for their health and age range or that the early symptoms resemble the flu but nobody is looking at the infection rate or anything else and saying its just the flu especially since influenza is not an its just thing its bad on its own|0 Kingdom season 2 just came out on Netflix If you didnt watch the first season highly recommend it|1 Its actually less dangerous to kids than regular flu But if you have an old person living at your house you may need isolate them until this thing blows overhttpsiinsidercom5e583c47fee23d4cf4755b27width700formatjpegautowebp|0 Not true at all httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMc2001468queryfeaturedhomeHas been publishing high quality peer reviewed articles with under 48h turnaround time|0 Id prefer continuing to order Yes EI would help out but Id rather not have to live off only 55 of my income if the choice were mine Also with no sports on TV I have to be at work or else Ill die of boredom|0 I figure at minimum there will be a severe worldwide recession I hope it doesnt teeter into a great depression|0 No it isnt The banks are the recipients of the majority of wealth flow The floodgates of a dam arent anywhere but the dam and the floodgates of an economy are nowhere else but the banking system|1 Seed them with the virus and maybe a few other diseases so the lord can show how powerful she is|1 Again when news like this were leaked out of Wuhan a lot of people thought they were fake|0 ho ly shit reading through these responses just convinced me the virus really needs to wipe us the fuck out how do you guys function in your normal lives if the least amount of fucking adversity gets you this kind of panic paranoia and defeatism|0 Doesnt help if thousands come into the country daily via planes|0 Lol what Youd rather go into a quarantine unit instead of this ship I feel like you have no idea what quarantine is actually like Trust me the ship is highly preferable itd be better in every single way|1 Seems crazy but I agree at least for a few weeks|1 it was obviously an accident but we dont know what they were researching this for they did a lot of experiments with SARS maybe to find a cure but they did some questionable projects like combining HIV with SARS to make it infectious to humans why would you do that|0 Possibly in their contract with corporate when they buy the locations A lot of standardized legal jargon so they all hold the same visual and price standards Could be way down the list it says something like national emergenciespandemics at our discretion terms can change ectOtherwise taco bell corporate wouldnt advertise this If they couldnt lock it in and people lost their jobs not coming in plus now no pay their pr team would quit|0 Im Also waiting for it to hit my parents that I live with 70 and 72 I insist every day that they dont go about their normal routine and pop to Asda ect Im having anxiety that I havent had in years Its so nice too know that theres people experience the same as me right now|1 How do these dickheads think factories workYou have specialized presses specialized tooling all designed for whatever product youre making You cant just switch them over to making a completely different product Especially when that product is a complicated critical care medical device|1 How absolutely blind are you Do you need the facts delivered to you in fucking Braille Excuse my ableism but fuck this behavior Your attitude will get people killed|0 He needs to shut his god damn mouth about this How can someone so smart be so fucking stupid|0 Its obvious that the scientific community didnt put enough pressure Politicians are dumb Why spend money on a disease that nobody has died for like 15 years But the scientists of institutes like the NIH could have pressed on and done the required research|0 For once I totally agree with voterepublicanagain I have a source inside the west wing I call deep throat state and apparently pence has been laying down some heavy duty prayers tramp was so affected he started speaking in tongues during his last speech|1 Good find thanks|1 Wait he doesnt have symptom but got tested How is that possible They arent even letting people WITH symptoms test here unless they turn super bad Oh yeah well hes fucking rich Gotcha|1 Not really Someone who can live to over 100 usually have genetic advantages over ordinary folks who with good lifestyle and decent healthcare can live into the 90s only This man lived through many epidemics early in his life when antibiotics and vaccines werent available Hes got the natural ability to fend off these attacks plus good luck of course Not everybody has this good combo of exceptional genes and good luck|1 Agree The Italian population is much smaller than the US population naturally skewing the data to be more alarmist than it needs to be|1 Medical professional here DC Metro area Things are not looking great right now We have had a large influx of pts exhibiting symptoms of ILI We are using the CDC supplied test kits but they must be shipped back to Atlanta for confirmation CDC has confirmed 3050 of tests are faulty biased false negative To top it off admins have not enacted quarantine protocols for suspected cases pts with ILI symptoms are coming right in to the emergency room See how easy that is Its ALL conjecture because neither the CDC nor the vast majority of regionallocal hospitals are releasing timely dailyhourly updates on procedures or specific activities While the CDC could be using its resources to provide uptodate info to citizens they are instead focusing on suppressing communication between citizens Ironically 4chan and Reddit have been at least a few days in many cases weeks ahead of the general populace as the situation has developedEdit for people who cantdont understand my post I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS HAPPENING IN DC OR ANYWHERE ELSE I DISCLAIM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY FOR ACTIONS TAKEN BY ANYONE WHO MISINTERPRETS THE ABOVE COMMENT Jesus fuckin Christ|0 I agree with you that it is good Specially for daytoday stuff But looking at most countries they just have enough to get by Not that the USA is super prepared for a pandemic no one is they just have more surplus in their system for whatever reason|1 This still feels surreal to me its like we are in a movieThoughts are with Tormund and his family|1 Welcome to red America Where so many people yelling pull yourself up by your bootstraps are obese poorly educated and enjoying disability checks|1 aaaaaaaaaaand were fucked|0 Why is this being downvoted Its true|1 Yeah I dont need to read wired I read the actual research papers a few days ago|1 We also got our first US case of unknown origin in California while this speech was going onIn Trumps defense he did block Travel from China early on and he might be correct in saying were the most prepared country for a pandemic and he does seem to acknowledge that well probably get more cases and might need to take more drastic measures I dont get the impression that he has complete control over the situation though unlike what he wants us to think I dont think he knew to test more people over the past month which appears to be the main issue Im not sure if that was a part of his decision making someone else in his administration or the CDCs|0 Lets put out the fire using 100 octane gas|0 Twitter is generally an unreliable source If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleNote that you may also resubmit as a text post just add a link and some explanatory text Thank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im stocked for about 2 months of food for the two of us We will have to ration a bit though probably Beans flour rice oats pasta some canned tuna salmon and chicken sauce soups muffin mix pancake mix frozen meat potatoes veggies and fruit Going to add salsa sugar and spices to the listI got some hand sanitizer soap and toilet paper I only have 40 gallons of water for the 2 of us right now though one being a small child Going to try to do another 20 this week and just keep buildingOne thing you can do is freeze bananas for smoothies I just bought 25 and will freeze all of them Good source of potassium and electrolytes As far as medicine and supplements I have enough vitamins for us I cant really afford to buy much else right now but I have kids Tylenol and Motrin on hand as well as ibuprofen for me I also have benadryl Im mostly concerned about massive price gauging and not being able to afford shit for awhile Also concerned about work and quarantines and panic In general I teach online but if everyones home Ill lose hours to other teachers I could utilize some other skills but still Im worried about ending up homeless or something crazy due to severe economic disruption So Im glad Ill be prepped while prices are still low Not really sure what else I should get|0 Its times like this where I wish I could afford a threadripper 3990x All Ive got is a 9900k Doing what I can though|1 Thats because for a lot of governments in the west racism is worst than a pandemic|0 That is really great Good to see them being proactive|1 They have equipment thats better so if your average person doesnt have access to a hazmat suit youve got to be creative I guess|1 425M in World Bank catastrophe bonds set to default if coronavirus declared a pandemic by Junehttpswwwwashingtonexaminercomnews425minworldbankcatastrophebondssettodefaultifcoronavirusdeclaredapandemicbyjune|0 I really hope that things like that wont happen and Im sure that overall burglaries will remain what they always have been an awful act that is thankfully very uncommon I think building community spirit will also help far more than it could ever do harm|1 Thats it The simulation has officially reached peaked fucked status Please uninstall and reinstall See you in Simulation 20|0 I was in awe after reading that he proposed legislation to tax capital gains in line with wages Its not often I willingly read about policy proposals but that one grabbed my attention|1 Hair and clothes scream soccer player story checks out Hope youre doing well|1 Shame it didnt halpen in 2013 when you guys had a real leader in office|0 This is the way 2012 was the end Shit has gone off the rails since|0 Already accepted its where Trumps 500000 tests available next week comes from|1 Ding Ding Ding They dont want to stay in their bunkers for long|0 TV shows yes movies may not be so bad A lot of film releases are being delayed at the moment so there will be a lot of films to be released when things get better and they wont all release at the same time|0 Unfortunately theyre still at risk of the disease after the recover|0 Im interested in foodborne infection rates Ive only read something brief along the lines of we have no proof yet which really doesnt help|0 Mine go shopping four times a week and refuse to stop any of their social lunches or eventsI even sat them down and showed them Joe Rogans coronavirus expert podcast which I thought had worked but a day later they were back to believing all the bullshit on network tv|0 What I noticed is that there was no evidence giventhey just said it reduces immunity and that smokers might touch their faces more Nothing to actually refute the claim And its interesting that only 1 of cases smoked while more than 50 of Chinese doTo be sure it would make sense that smokers would have weaker damaged lungs but if their ACE2 receptors are full of nicotinenot enough empty parking places for the virus Id like to see some actual data on this not just a reflexive of course this is not true and please ignore that databut believe all the rest of it|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 You should feel shame|0 Yes Even with a separate thermometer it should be done with a sleeve|1 If anyone has the means to do so National Nurses Week in the US is May 612 while Hospital Week which celebrates everyone working in hospitals coincides with it on May 10 16 The dates arent that far off if people are interested but that would be a good time to send a local unit in a hospital Pizza is always a hit and is highly recommended ER staff are especially at the front line right now Other units do see inpatient Covid patients but the ERs are seeing everyone coming in for testing A lot of people are being sent home to self quarantine unless theres a reason to keep them in the hospital COVID19 itself isnt much of a reason to get admitted usually youve gotta be older or compromised otherwise odds are youll get fluids in the ER and sent home Also theyre still dealing with all the same normal daily bullshit car accidents havent stopped and little Timmys still sticking a fork in a socket Id bet there might even be an uptick in suicide rates in the coming days too They also tend to share with first responders if they have enough|0 How did he got infected to begin with Was he in Wuhan before coming to LA|0 That is truly depressing So sick of this 1980 model of everyone needing to be in the office to do business Our firm operates fine globally as a Fortune 500 Majority 90 remote|0 My partner thinks Im crazy and overreacting Im happy if after all this we are alive and divorce is as simple as submitting a paper Now I need to keep them safe Im very mad now so dont take me serious but for the last month I felt alone|0 Agree But you will know how a dandelion Looks You can not really fuck Up the easy plants And you can still Google If they have an evil twin Better than straving i assume|1 THE UK IS FUCKED|0 Someone said it earlier but I will say it again Penny wise and pound foolish|1 even at Influenzas worst moment around 1919 with 3129 per million dead003 it was far less deadly than this current coronavirus which is sitting around 2 mortality rateThats a mortality rate 666 times more deadly|0 Never trust a rich man whos turned philanthropist They so often fuck over everyone else to get where they are then cry Mea culpa and fling money about Remember Andrew Carnegie|0 Stay safe All medical staff deserve a full respect|1 I agree but the current trajectory being what it is discovering the true infection rate can be safely left to Koreans|1 Nice in Alberta theyre only recommending people self isolate after returning home I checked with work today and was told to be in for my shift Tuesday after a month in Hawaii Im sure itll be fine Ive only seen about 7 cruise ships in the harbor in the last month s|1 I have several friends that work at Vacations To Go in Houston that were laid off today due to COV19 They laid off over 100 people The travel industry is being decimated by this|1 Translation Keep that shit down there|0 Will people working in child care programs KinderCare specifically be included in this|1 Hannity is no more a news show than is The Rachel Maddow Show theyre both opinion shows that happen to frequently use current events aka news as a basis for topics Im omitting Chris Cuomos show in the same time slot on CNN since I havent personally watched it all that much If you want to see how Fox News is covering COVID19 try watching Special Report at 6 pm EST or Fox News Night at 11 pm EST both of which have a more traditional news format|1 Its filled with sweet beans it takes a bit of time to get used to|1 Well I bet US healthcare system would score way better if only YOU stopped killing people|0 You mean CDC tried to get private companies to make their own kits for and failed|0 LOL its been like two days|1 Riiiiight Yeah people like Jeff Bezos just happen to have 90 of the planets wealth concentrated amongst them all and its just an unfortunate coincidence that there are millions of starving homeless people in the world Ok Suuuure|1 I wonder if many of the elderly are considered to have died of other causes skewing the distribution|0 Damn none of them around me But Ill keep them on my list for when they inevitably expand|0 Markets where live animals are sold and slaughtered on site are definitely not something youre likely to find in America|1 not gon lie MW battle royale is well its rough lol but its fucking hilarious what happens when you die in it and its def a fun way to pass the time sometimes its just a lil weird|1 Michigan is missing does that mean we dont have the virus x200Bs just in case|0 My mum 58 said that recently to us Also said that males and people with underlying conditions should be afraid next to my father 57 who recently had a heart attack She can be quite a savage sometimes|0 This needs to happen globally But they also need to impose limits on how much of any item they can buy|0 Talk to your pulmonologist or allergy doctor Dont seek medical advice on Reddit However if possible you and your wife should both obtain at least one extra inhaler Supplies of any med may experience shortages as Covid19 does its thing Its important for you and your wife to practice social distancing Shop at odd hoursleast busy times If possible work from home Stay away from crowds Avoid public transportation Dont shake handshug people No elbow bumps no Wuhan shake foot taps Bow wave whatever stay at least 3 away 6 would be better Dont share pens If you havent already get your flu shot Any illness lowers your bodies ability to fight Covid19 Get your pneumonia shot if you havent Dr Gottlieb former FDA head has said the pneumonia vaccine has been shown to help not prevent with viral pneumoniaIf you attend church rethink partaking in communion for the present time God will understand Ideally dont attend too large of a group Basically all the things you already know you need to be doing as an asthmatic during cold and flu season|0 I live in Orlando and Ive always used Disney as a canary in the coal mine Hurricane season Storm coming If Disney is open dont worry too muchI said the same about this virus nervous but I will be isolating myself when Disney closes couple days later they did just that When they reopen I will feel comfortable considering leaving my house|1 its just the flu Chinas effort of shutting down the country is totally unnecessary|0 There is far too little information to obtain true mortality rates The mortality rate of 23 that is often quoted around here is likely off by a factor of 1020X see herehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfairo7thissubisalmostat150kmembersandrapidlyfj03hox early estimated mortality rates of diseases are always very high because only people that suffer from severe symptoms are tested for the disease The higher mortality rate for diabetics that you mention is much more likely explained as a correlation with diabetics typically being older Even then the true mortality rate is likely not 710 but rather 031Information is useless without truly understanding that information It is very easy to misinterpret and lie with statistics Hence the quote There are three kinds of lies lies damned lies and statistics Finding out what statistics actually mean and represent about the real world is extremely difficult|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Politician putting responsibility on children Ugh|0 Its really not about the physical cash as much as it is the numbers when it comes to moving funds from various foreign markets and subsidiaries and the taxes that are incurred in doing soPhysical cash is just a representation of a digital balance and its been that way for agesAs other posters have said the physical cash is a mild factor in that it reduces people withdrawing all their cash from banks but thats just an ideological reassurance because cash is just a representation of a balanceIts much more about keeping lines of credit open for corporations that pay the individuals If you still have a paycheck you dont panic and take your cash from the bankBut the collective balances of the general public of the US is absolutely inconsequential when were talking about trillions of dollars People running to empty their accounts is the least of bankers worries|1 I asked my 8th grade daughter if theyve discussed it at school and she said no mom those are adult problems they told us not to worry about it wtf She goes to a small charter school with k12 in one building|0 Well yeah I agree after all government is to govern the minds We are only the results of our society ect|1 Please point out the untruths Thanks|1 httppubdocsworldbankorgen882831509568634367PEFFinalProspectusPEFpdfCorona is listed specifically What i am saying is that the people making the call stand to benefit via good old fashion corruption If they hold out until July|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Her district is literally filled with human shit on the streets|0 Ok sure|1 As an Italian dont believe idiots that tell you not toThe more you wait the worst it will be|0 The US will truly struggle with a mandated quarantine In parts of the country where people take their Murica real serious it would honestly take martial law I feel to enforce it As far as stopping spread I honestly think that ship has already sailed my dude|1 Not trying to be an ass but no shit of course testing is a key way to prevent spread and treat the sick thats what everyones trying to do|0 At this point Wuhanstyle lock down is probably necessary in Lombardy They are losing 100 people a day Thats about 50 daily death levels in China during the peak and Italy is a far smaller country Circumstances pretty much call for far more stringent measures|0 Can an aqueous garlic extract AGE be use as a ACE2 Protease Inhibitor without side effects AGE reduces the serum ACE activity similar to enalapril Both AGE and enalapril counteracted all these deleterious changes with the exception that only an aqueous garlic extract AGE reduced the MPO activity These findings suggest that AGE possesses hepatoand renoprotective properties similar to enalapril probably by modulating the levels of proteins such as TNF TGF1 and MMP13 and involving a reduction of ACE and of oxidative stresshttpswwwdegruytercomdownloadpdfjznc201469issue34znc20130112znc20130112pdfhttpswwwdegruytercomdownloadpdfjznc201469issue34znc20130112znc20130112pdf|0 Its racist because you guys have been trying to shut borders all day every day and it seems like you have just jumped on this new thing to try to further your actual goal|0 Why are you obsessed with how it is called Who cares|1 Hopefully|1 Thats rich coming from someone who doesnt know when to use apostrophes|1 The virus has spread elsewhere its racist to just ban China|0 Well actually I was under the impression that most Korean white collar professionals and especially anyone in STEM or humanities know a fair number of Chinese characters Partly for historical reasons partly to remove ambiguities|1 My craft cocktails are pretty important But I already make them at home anyway because Im cheap|1 Stay out of gatherings like bars where people are relatively close together and you will be fine tbh|1 The Chinese government is taking it very seriously Theyve received commendation from the WHO and I think its warranted They are updating the public with a lot of information and doing so in a timely manner I cant speak for what was said at the start of the outbreak but currently the response is very serious|0 To be fair as concerned as I am about COVID 19 Ive seen some customers buying absurd amounts of toilet paper and cant help but joke about it|0 Same here except Tyson dino fun nuggets They are fun to play with and eat when intoxicated Hate 3rd shift man|1 Yeah bats can spread many diseases various VHF rabies various conoraviruses Nipah virus and several hantaviruses as well It seems like they are a natural reservoirs for many of our most deadly diseases|1 There were some big rumors of a couple of other cases in Ottawa yesterday but I guess that Albert St building shut down turned out negative since clearly the only Ottawa case is Trudeau|0 That is assuming we actually gain the ability to test everyone with symptoms|1 Yeah but breathing is kind of essential for our survival Eating meat is not|1 Yeah probs not the best idea for this one but I was more interested in finding if crowd funding exists etc Believe me having a shot on a donated Xbox in a quiet room relieves a lot of stress Well if you like Xboxs lol|1 75 sounds like terrible news|0 So if I hear you the SARS family and the Influenza family are basically just the same bloody thing rightBright observation Why do we even have science anyway right A disease is a disease why even bother manifacturing microscopes|0 This should be a government ownedrun factory like the post office as it is an essential product and important for national security|1 How about as a prophylactic Could frontline health care workers go on this wellknown drug as prevention against transmission|1 It wont help with the site down but should allows users online acquiring updates sending results and check their ranks more easily Only the site for this particular project is down The site for the main project is still able to get in|1 Im already on day 6 of quitting after reading that the corona virus targets some receptors in the lungs that are very abundant on victims Also smoking stimulates the growth of these receptors Feels good to have stopped smoking|1 Weird looks from people bringing the virus home to a loved one |1 I really despise the fact that you blame this all on consumerism like were some mindless shopping addicts who spend our paychecks on some new gadget every time we get paid Do you realize how expensive healthcare is in this country do you realize how ridiculously expensive schooling is in this country My healthcare and student loan bill is a rental payment by itself Some of us do have savings but considering the fact that we have to pay for every little thing in this country we very understandably may not have the savings to last us through a pandemic that may go on for several months|0 Did you miss the part where its literally an Amusement park Adults with critical thinking skills can enjoy Disney without completely succumbing to it Its not like were detached from reality when we are there Its ENTERTAINMENT You think grown ass adults think Mickey Mouse is a real mouse or somethingYou also need to give kids more credit because they can also differentiate Disney from reality and has no negative impact on child development In fact why dont you take 5 minutes to research the positive impact of make believerole play in child development|1 Its because money rules the world Money and economic growth is more important than the air we breathe the water we drink and the food we consume It would take the entire earth being up in flames for the far right to even consider climate change|1 my mother in law has a literal room full of canned food alcohol cleaning and paper goods As a Jew child who hid and starved in WW2 she swore to never be hungry or dirty ever again|0 Tamiflu has no effect on coronavirus Good luck|1 Ive learned to shut up Left FL with the understanding with my neighbors that I would be back in a couple of weeks Nooper will stay put in the country in GA Noone is paying any attention Relative in WA state whose husband had cancer thinks no big deal|0 Recycling is good for environment also|1 I live in Florida and Im patiently waiting for my job to announce plans in case things go down I work in what would be considered an essential job so I have no idea whats going to happen Its just making me more anxious about it|0 Italy had major issues with quarantine procedures in hospitals so it spread to a lot of very vulnerable people early on I think it was 70 of a dialysis ward before they realised what it was Plus they have the 2nd oldest population in the world|0 Yeah I feel like our regulations are a positive thing generally but in a state of emergency they should be able to push past that kinda shit|0 You did that Really cool|1 Its been a joke since Nixon|1 This comment should be at the top by now|1 Could be indirect contact or simply just not knowing someone is infected|0 OP is admitting to a crime here Only the triage nurse gets a mask it was obviously an inside job and I know how they did it Our security blows and I can describe all the holes in itPut them back OP|0 You do not need a mask outside when there are no people around Going for a walk is absolutely okay Were in it for the long haul folks this thing is supposed to peak peak not end in three MONTHS It is important to get some fresh air and some exercise Sunlight vitamin D Seeing the flowers bloom and hearing the birds sing has a calming effect Mental health is important|1 Depending on where was born in 1922 she couldve very well lived under the rule of multiple warlords|1 That would leave me stuck at home for spring break for 2 extra weeks without essential things for my online classes that start up in a week Also because my parents forces me to fly back that leaves us paying for 14 days of covered parking for my car and I run out of contacts in 4 days Im very much in a bad spot to get quarantined|0 Yeah man 80 with all those conditions Find somewhere to party while everyone else quarantines|1 This is unbelievably stupid Even if he is right this opens up the company to soo much liability If anyone at the plant gets sick they have a massive lawsuit|0 Thats the idea Self quarantine Only thing will be bad is if there is a run on stores and the truck drivers dont go to work food and such is gonna be in short supply for the unprepared people People gonna come knocking to see if you can help them out with some food as they ran out already|0 Israels always a touchy topic you get flack from both sides no matter what your position is Its such a political shitshow|0 I had the inlaws visit recently and mentioned that maybe we should try to stay away from public places in order to protect their grandfather already has both kidneys failing Nope we went to two restaurants and hung out at my place for a bit even though I told them my kid has had a cold for about a week Their response was its just a cold but since we have no way of getting tested we dont actually know what it is In laws are in the military so of course were not in any danger because murica|1 Rioting would be bad for most people Im sure That is why the authorities are being very careful about what they say and what they do They dont want to spook the herd|0 Ive been watching it since the end of January rChinaFlu convinced me to sell my SPY stock on 2202020 at 335 a share Its currently trading at about 270share but that is expected to drop substantially tomorrow Futures hit the limit after the QE announcement this evening Goldman Sachs says 200share is not impossible in the next few months As thats the bulk of my IRA thank you rChinaFlu for saving me at least 15000 and probably rather a bit more once the dust settles I stocked up on food and stuff in late February Staple goods toilet paper all that jazz Got food and litter for the cats too Im ready to goBeen doing my social distancing Trying to impress upon others that this is the real deal and totally worth worrying about Its hard I live in a very rural and strongly red state area of the US But Im trying|1 I agree At the same time though they do not want people testing positive in the count because it would make them look as they are not doing enoughThis way instead they still tell you to quarantine at home perhaps your immune system resists and symptoms disappear and you were never tested as positive though|1 This Thank youIve never hated the word only more in my life You should stop lurking and post more|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Id like to use some of the hundreds of years of cumulative knowledge on social responses to disease outbreaks to limit the spread and protect the public as much as is humanely possible|1 Random antivirus and especially antibiotics wont do shit Should not come as a surprise|1 I saw someone comparing the potential death toll to the Holocaust a couple of days ago Though they were saying coronavirus could be worse But either way maybe not the best choice of comparison|0 Like the Shirk brothers in Money Pit httpsyoutubelJhHjACjJjA|1 In California I knew my doctor well and trusted him completely There are four flu vaccines Some have all four stations some three some two and some have just one My sons doctor here needs a translator because she doesnt really understand English Im constantly trying to find a good doctor hereNext year Ill ask what strain the vaccine is being used for and if they can tell megreat Ill have no problem getting itLast week when I questioned the results of my last urine test all the results of the test were missing as they hadnt been typed into the computer system So I was given major dose antibiotics and he cant tell me what he saw to prescribe them|0 Its doubtful codeine will do much other than mask discomfort Paracetamol is known to reduce temperature in viral infections and so should be the default for most if people must take anything It wont cure anything nothing will Its a virus Those seeking respite might find it usefulWhy ibuprofen is recommended regardless of the negative connotations suggested in this thread isnt clear but paracetamol is well tolerated and has fewer side effects for most especially those on blood pressureanti clotting meds so should be the first line of action if needed NSAIDS have their place but not necessarily in this instance|0 SARS didnt kill as many people as flu because of an aggressive response The whole point of showing the danger is so that people take it seriously If you say its just like the flu then people wont take it seriously and it could end up being much much more deadly than the flu We also have some immunity to the flu in general in particular community immunity This stops the spread We also produce a flu vaccine every year its not 100 effective but it helps Theres no COVID19 vaccine yet We know a lot about influenza viruses we dont know much about COVID19 In terms of global outcomes its too early to say Maybe it will be similar to flu maybe it will be much worse The whole its just the flu bro is a large part as to why people were so slow to react to the virus and take it seriously Instead of trying to compare it to the flu perhaps we should acknowledge that it is its own thing Comparing it to flu isnt helpful in any way|0 Mcdonalds was still open Foreign companies tend to stay open from what I saw Had to look pretty hard for a place to eat last night because everything was closed|1 Theres already a rcoronavirusUS with more members Why did They make a usa as well|1 My wifes uncle in Houston is sick and has symptoms Fever cough difficulty breathing and loss of appetite Was told it was just a virus and should go away His wife and him are self quarantining just in case|0 35 is yesterdays number|1 FFS Wtf is the CDC and our country doing I read Homeland Securitys pandemic plan They arent doing the things they listed for the stages Im not even going to talk about WHO and their politics mattering much more than human lives Its all so horribly mismanaged that Im left thinking many of the leaders in this fight are morons incompetent insane villainous or all of the above|0 no such thing as definex or not do any nmw|0 Time to deploy the Amazon drone fleet Its not like anyone is going to be flying anytime soon|0 Well Ive been reading about this for a couple daysThe Uber drivers have been under observation but I dont know if they are under quarantineAs far we know they still havent shown symptoms and the traveler stayed in Mexico City during the 2022 of January But another possibility is that the drivers think they have the flu or a common colds|0 Apparently they work very well but only if you are a health care worker Otherwise they seem to be useless|1 Yeah but shy of a state of emergency 80 is bellow the standards of the FDA This is one of them times where stringent regulations and red tape are rather detrimentalI dont think it maters much It will probably be cheaper and kill fewer people if we just let it burn itself out instead if trying to slow and contain it We can be done with it in a few bloody months or we can have a long bloody year|0 Lets not split hairs People are desparate to get hold of masks and the government is providing a new venue for it as is in their best interest|1 Nice one Not to go too far off topic but I did the same and oh what a difference it made I sleep better feel better and work better Did you eliminate all sugars or just refined sugars sweet stuff It is hard to find foods without sugar these days unless you make everything from scratch|1 I agree most of those are doom gloom but this could get bad is a reasonable statement Anyone assuming it cant get bad so dont worry is spreading false information just like people saying were all already dead|0 how about reporting with context instead of yet another in a series of Hot Takes AHA estimates a 05 death rate needing 10x the resources as the typical flu and with the flu dying down every Spring there is good evidence our hospitals will be able to handle this|0 Im a shareholder Im dont mind if my shares in airline companies temporarily decline in price because theyre doing the right thing and protecting Americans from the virus|1 He isnt the comment above him did that He is just using their basic measure that they established and pointing out it isnt like those things You could have corrected the comment above and it might have made more sense I guess but this is just you looking to correct someone over nothing No point in wasting more time on it|0 Hi Mr GatesIm from Italy and currently in lockdown since March 5 and well be until April 3 for now Im pretty sure this will be postponed looking at the current situationMy question is how does this imprisonment will affect peoples psychology My tought is especially for the ones that had to suddenly stop seeing their love or parents or even worst for the people with mental health problemsThanks in advance|1 linking a chinese video as a sourcethey might as well be talking about carrots|1 The travel bans will have no noticable impact at this point The US is already incredibly infected Travel should have been banned weeks ago for this to make a difference|0 I got hit with one of the worst flus Ive ever had late Nov early Dec didnt come close to dying and never tested for flu but 45 days of knocked out on the couch with high fever cough labored breathing I think it was possible this but who knowsYou need to stop You think you might have caught this back when it was still isolated to China and wasnt even on anyones radar until Jan 1And you think you may have had this HIGHLY contagious virus and no one else around you caught it as wellBig brain thinking right hereLet me guess you just found out about this virus when stock tanked last month amiright You are cluelessE Lmao posts constantly in td redhat true believer posts constantly in a sub for 15 year old Fortnite players and comes out of the woodwork making stupid claims with no basis about this virus a month ago Shockedpikachufacempg|0 TrueBut OP sliced up the quote to misrepresent what was said and instead make it appear as a matter of fact rather than the personal oppinion of one unnamed person Putting in the actual quote is less alarmist and misleading Which I presume is why editorialising is not allowed even on ruk A further justification for this rule introduction is quoting anonymous sources out of context is hardly beneficial to the discussion|1 If everyone is still out and about how does this help|1 Biden has also cancelled his rally|0 How is it possible for them not to use toilet paper or something to wipe after a poopthat sounds like it would itch all day long and you would want a shower if there is no paper availableI know in general on average things are a little unhigenic but no toilet paper|0 Im hoping theyll be next|1 But Australians arent exactly known for their critical thinking skillsAmericans arent much better|0 Yeah that sound like Portugal|1 Oversimplifying but The large white mass in the middle front is the heartThe black you can see in the middle in some images is air in the main tube Trachea BronchusThe small white traces that look like leaf veins are progressively smaller Bronchi in the lungs The greyish sponge looking areas are lung tissue with air The fuzzy whitegrey blobs are where the body is reacting to the virus and is causing fluid phlegm build up as part of this|1 Try posting it on some of the other coronavirus subreddits or just any regular subreddits that have a thread about coronavirus and you will have many people yelling at you and telling you that they do nothing Its infuriating|1 I work in a private PT clinic and the owner is MAGA follower thinks its all a hoax I think one of the staff needs to get infected for us to close down Already having elderly people and those with comorbidities calling out|0 Wow this very cool Not sure how youre feeding in data but if possible showing new cases in conjunction with the total might be helpful Its a better indication of how things are progressing in the short term ie a decline in new cases or drop to zero over a couple weeks could indicate the situation is improving|1 They stopped flights early in Feb Screen passangers Combination of this with luck could have kept the numbers lowOr People could have it and they just dont know yet Flu pneumonia etc are regular diseases that people anyway get|1 This is the big question about China they are opening back up Did it work there Unfortunately getting accurate info out of China is impossibleeven the personal story posts have dried up|0 Youd want at least one when you seek treatment though So honestly having some around is still a good ideaNote surgical masks are enough for this purpose leave the N95 for professionals and people that have direct contact with suspect patients|1 Absolute Chaos in France Germany and Italy and Denmark is now closing borders|0 thats what the government are trying to push and it sucks hard|0 Yeah this is coming to a town or city near you You have a little window to get things your family needs I made a short video of things to grab Take a look it may help you out httpsyoutube59L4LwlUZGM|1 You will be alright |1 From this interview from a week ago httpswwwbundesgesundheitsministeriumdepresseinterviewsinterviews2020bams090320htmlIt says around 50000 tests conducted so far and a capacity of 20000 tests per dayTests conducted in hospitals are not included in the number|1 It used to be a novelty to see the R2D2 cleaning machine in one of the rooms For the past year the hospital has been cycling them through every room on a periodic basis Now it is rare to not see it glowing nearby during a shift With the curtainsdoors closed the light seeping out looks like an alien UFO has landed inside the room|1 Good to hear|1 That is not a study Its a pretty lowquality review that just says hey this could happen They perform zero experimentation and show no direct evidence|0 The arrow to indicate where we are now is very useful thanks D|1 Yep Or if you cant get up try doing bicycle legs or just move them around a lot under the covers|1 You only wanted to help|1 fAkE nEwS|0 closeLeaf me alone You moose not come over to Canadaeven if youre poutine on a mask eh|0 Trying to push that to my boss Along with a third group of at risk or already Ill people who should not come in at all|0 I totally agree but it cant hurt to have a week or 2 worth of dry goods in the house With 2 weeks of food you will be covered for almost all natural disasters that will practically happen|1 Of course its scary Anyone who has watched that ET quarantine scene can attest By hiding it they put themselves in a worse situation Would it not be more scary to have a higher chance of complications because they didnt go to the doctor Surely no one thought oh i could die from this Better not tell anyone ever If they were transparent from the get go they wouldnt be treated as such and it wouldnt need to go this far Its already too late once they are caught hiding it Id rather be treated as a biological hazard than knowingly give people a life threatening virus Especially when considering that they are also putting their family and friends at riskIt is very possible to treat them with kindness like actual human beings The goal is to help them not to lock them away forever They can be treated with compassion while still following proper procedures They need all the help they can get which also means limiting contact|1 They leaked sars twice |0 I want to quit|1 This is true but the type of antibiotics make a big difference here A physician can accurately prescribe the correct antibiotics in a situation like this I think that many people are not aware that not all antibiotics are the same Taking old antibiotics is likely to be the wrong type and the wrong dosage both being problematic for the particular illness and there ongoing problem of antibiotic resistance|0 Thank you|1 Can you cite the first part and the 2nd part is not proof of anything that I said Its obvious it would trap moister and retain that moister|0 My local Walmart has canned ground beef Use by dat is 2025 Mix that with canned tomato sauce Put on top of some rice I could live on that for awhile|1 Do your part to slow the spread of the coronavirus15 Days to Slow the Spread Listen and follow the directions of your state and local authorities If you feel sick stay home Do not go to work Contact your medical provider If your children are sick keep them at home Do not send them to school Contact your medical provider If someone in your household has tested positive for the coronavirus keep the entire household at home Do not go to work Do not go to school Contact your medical provider If you are an older person stay home and away from other people If you are a person with a serious underlying health condition that can put you at increased risk for example a condition that impairs your lung or heart function or weakens your immune system stay home and away from other people Even if you are young or otherwise healthy you are at risk and your activities can increase the risk for others It is critical that you do your part to stop the spread of the coronavirus Work or engage in schooling from home whenever possible If you work in a critical infrastructure industry as defined by the Department of Homeland Security such as healthcare services and pharmaceutical and food supply you have a special responsibility to maintain your normal work schedule You and your employers should follow CDC guidance to protect your health at work Avoid social gatherings in groups of more than 10 people Avoid eating or drinking at bars restaurants and food courts use drivethru pickup or delivery options Avoid discretionary travel shopping trips and social visits Do not visit nursing homes or retirement or longterm care facilities unless to provide critical assistance Practice good hygiene Wash your hands especially after touching any frequently used item or surface Avoid touching your face Sneeze or cough into a tissue or the inside of your elbow Disinfect frequently used items and surfaces as much as possibleSchool operations can accelerate the spread of the coronavirus Governors of states with evidence of community transmission should close schools in affected and surrounding areas Governors should close schools in communities that are near areas of community transmission even if those areas are in neighboring states In addition state and local officials should close schools where coronavirus has been identified in the population associated with the school States and localities that close schools need to address childcare needs of critical responders as well as the nutritional needs of childrenOlder people are particularly at risk from the coronavirus All states should follow Federal guidance and halt social visits to nursing homes and retirement and longterm care facilitiesIn states with evidence of community transmission bars restaurants food courts gyms and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed|0 Thank you for having sense So tired of people overreacting to every new illness that surfaces|0 He should have broken two femur that would be nice for endangering others with Corona virus|0 Good luck|1 Holy shit They need to open game on these monkey sons of bitches|0 that makes more sense thanks|1 Please dont actually put money in your mouth though Thats nasty|0 Theyre not so much hiding it like China which just made shit up Theyre just refusing to test most people to keep the confirmed numbers down which is arguably worse|0 This rector recently attended a conference in Louisville KY before showing symptoms Not sure of the timeline between conference and symptoms but Im assuming it was close if news sources are reporting The conference was the Consortium of Endowed Episcopal Parishes This could potentially spread this virus to multiple parishes|0 RIP good Doctor They didnt deserve you|1 Fuck sake Fucking Boris|0 Fuck Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck|0 Well given that one expert is saying that on the current trajectory there will be 17Million cases in 3 weeks Id say its a safe bet|1 Whats frustrating is most of my family are being very dismissive and putting not only themselves but me and others at risk Very selfish behaviour that stems from a blend of denial and ignorance|0 In school yesterday there were so many pupils in with symptoms shows what a lot of parents think of us teachers given that the parents know full well what they are doing by sending them in|1 No some of them truly dont give a shit my MIL said she could care less as it would basically speed up the hell her life has become from COPD|1 True But it is still bad That is the point the person above you is making|0 Help not in the USA im in Florida so we dont have test kits from what i heard For all we know more than the 30 we were told have it might be way more|1 Separate facilities would be the best thing to start planning for They did that in past pandemics Spanish Flu TB Smallpox etc|1 Just to be clear the welding of doors shut in China was NOT on all of the doors of those buildings They intent was to force people to use only one controlled exitentrance They were not leaving entire apartment buildings to die|0 If you are worried for loved ones who are at higher risk remind them of what they can do to protect themselves Remind them to stay in wash their hands and limit contact with other people Check in with them to make sure theyre doing okay Its hard to feel like we have any power in this chaos but there are little things we can do to help the people we care about|1 Im in a wedding next saturday She wont budge on it her and her husband both think this is a big nothing burger even tho the best man has already dropped due to flying in from Canada Ill go hes my brother but Ill let him know how dumb this is the entire time then drink too much at the reception|0 Yes you have to get the salted one not the one in syrup though I ended up eating it straight from the can though lol I got mine from an Indian grocery store instead of paying 4 quid a tin from Tesco|1 Everyone in our house me husband 3 year old with the exception of our 35 month old daughter have a mild flu right now So 1 thanks flu shot for making this not full on awful and 2 were honestly afraid to go out and confirm that its the flu because the urgent cares are a bit crazy right now They cant do anything for it anyway so unless we get a crazy high fever were all hiding inside|0 SARS 2 Revenge of the Pangolin|0 Amazon and UPS serve those homes daily Most of which is 1 day delivery these days|1 Again it has positive air flow except the OR Youd need to convert the entire ship Too close quarters Better off with hotels and arenas Were not using them and thats probably more realistic than this pie in the sky stuff I imagine thatll be exactly what is done plus tents like Italy Thatll be the national guard|1 Can you share this thread I am not sane right now lol|1 I didnt When the fuck did doctors decide there can only be two categories mild as in anything from actually mild to feel like dying and critical as in will die without hospital care What happened to I dont know something called moderate How can pneumonia even belong in the same sentence as mildI was definitely suspicious when everyone started saying how 80 cases are mild at least it makes sense now|0 I hope comments like this wont pop up down the road with a sad update but here goes my mom is 63 with reduced lung function from a run in with black mold Dont get it dont spread it|1 Look at south koreas stats they are testing a shit ton of people still very high going to hospital|0 Ive pretty much given up the ghost trying to find anyone that will take responsibility They just want to commandeer sports halls I dont know its depressing to see such a mess tbh|1 Short Sellers are a strange crowd theres a lot of costs that they neither count nor give a shit about most poiniantly the human ones They like to think of themselves as the hip undertakers of capitalism but I think that may too generous|1 This will be kind of hard to answer for you as the question is in a broader senseIf you look at the spread of disease alone what precautions should be taken in effect immediately And what actions have been done rightly so And then given there are abundant economical factors that have a huge role in this outbreak should these economical factor be taken into account as much as theyre nowNot a native speakerThank you for taking time to do this|0 Good on you She should listen to your advice about selling the tickets but I would be very surprised if the concert in question will go ahead Im 99 certain by this weekend all these things will shutdown|1 Im living in Vancouver and I honestly do not know what Canada is doing|1 Frightening as overwhelmed hospitals and systems means you will have a hard time getting other emergency assistance for nonvirus related events such as heart attacks accidents etc So these figures posted here are for deaths from the virus itself and there will be other deaths as a result of what this virus does to our front line first responders emergency wards etc The ultimate cost in terms of lives lost could be awfully higher |0 NOBODY DOES THAT HOLY SHITIt was literally in the OPs summary Jesus man do your emotions make you unable to read He disputes government account says his brother was 60 not elderly|0 Survival of the richest|1 Regardless this study is flawed and is only using one way to calculate R0 Using total infected figures gives wildly misleading results when we dont actually know what the total infected numbers are The study is useful but I am sure even the authors of the study would admit its a bit misleadingThere are countless studies giving wildly varying numbers right now Lets not just pick the one study showing the highest number and say thats the real one|1 That was disinformation so hospitals could get them Since 80 who get it will be ok The medical professionals need them to try to save that 20|1 Glad i dont live in america probably one of the worst countries to live in|0 then you may or may not die from itIts not a fucking coin flip you goofy fuck Lets see your sources|0 Better food quality in all of the restaurants would be way cooler|1 This is the thing The CCPs utter idiocy initially let this situation spiral out of control to begin with but they are faced with a really difficult problem nowIf they let people go back to work theres a huge risk the virus will spreadIf they make people stay at home the economy and social order are going to start to come under immense pressure People have to work to pay rent|0 Yes you did|1 According to their website its 4 minutes for wipes 30 seconds for spray cleaner and 5 minutes for full strength bleach Kinda inconsistent noYoure not prepping for surgery just killing a majority of viruses Expecting the public to wipe for four minutes is silly they dont even wash their hands|0 And my response stays the same Thats terrible and its something we need to correct but at the momentIm more concerned with the pandemic at hand|1 Who is getting sick and how sick A breakdown of coronavirus risk by demographic factorsx200Bhttpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactorshttpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactorsx200BExperts envision two scenarios if the new coronavirus isnt containedx200Bhttpswwwstatnewscom20200204twoscenariosifnewcoronavirusisntcontainedhttpswwwstatnewscom20200204twoscenariosifnewcoronavirusisntcontainedx200BA detailed guide to the coronavirus drugs and vaccines in developmentx200Bhttpswwwstatnewscom20200302coronavirusdrugsandvaccinesindevelopmenthttpswwwstatnewscom20200302coronavirusdrugsandvaccinesindevelopmentx200BStop thinking of COVID19 as something that happens somewhere else Consider it here httpswwwdailykoscomstories2020321923452StopthinkingofCOVID19assomethingthathappenssomewhereelseConsideritheredetailemaildkrehttpswwwdailykoscomstories2020321923452StopthinkingofCOVID19assomethingthathappenssomewhereelseConsideritheredetailemaildkrex200BYoure Likely to Get the Coronavirus httpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive202002covidvaccine607000httpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive202002covidvaccine607000 The Official Coronavirus Numbers Are Wrong and Everyone Knows It httpswwwtheatlanticcomtechnologyarchive202003howmanyamericansreallyhavecoronavirus607348httpswwwtheatlanticcomtechnologyarchive202003howmanyamericansreallyhavecoronavirus607348x200BBased on the variability in the presentation of Covid 19 symptoms it is unthinkable that the CDC is misleading health care practitioners to deliberately overlook serious cases of the full blown virus infection The attached article is an update on the expanding criteria so far neglected by the federal government Diarrhea Likely Underestimated in COVID19 httpswwwmedscapecomviewarticle926037httpswwwmedscapecomviewarticle926037x200BDeficient CDC criteria for Covid 19 diagnosis Coronavirus Disease 2019 COVID19 2019nCoV Guidelines httpsemedicinemedscapecomarticle2500114guidelineshttpsemedicinemedscapecomarticle2500114guidelinesx200BHow COVID19 Is Spreadhttpswwwthescientistcomnewsopinionhowcovid19isspread67143httpswwwthescientistcomnewsopinionhowcovid19isspread67143x200BCoronavirus spread in US Not if but when and how severe CDC says httpsarstechnicacomscience202002coronavirusspreadinusnotifbutwhenandhowseverecdcsayshttpsarstechnicacomscience202002coronavirusspreadinusnotifbutwhenandhowseverecdcsaysx200BGovernment deliberately suppressed effort to combat pandemic Spokespeople decieved public about history and danger with lies in the same vein as the pathological compulsive liar in chiefx200BCoronaviruss Genetics Hint at its Cryptic Spread in Communitieshttpswwwthescientistcomnewsopinioncoronavirussgeneticshintatitscrypticspreadincommunities67233utmcampaignTSOTC2020utmsourcehsemailutmmediumemailutmcontent84660053hsencp2ANqtzoCnpI6bH1k0jWvq0e23KBrfoUZ5ph2OhFr9KT6oJDjSELIe5Sbku47Fg3qzmAOTkKdDDw5er0DncxLFgfd3kcRXFQhsmi84660053httpswwwthescientistcomnewsopinioncoronavirussgeneticshintatitscrypticspreadincommunities67233utmcampaignTSOTC2020utmsourcehsemailutmmediumemailutmcontent84660053hsencp2ANqtzoCnpI6bH1k0jWvq0e23KBrfoUZ5ph2OhFr9KT6oJDjSELIe5Sbku47Fg3qzmAOTkKdDDw5er0DncxLFgfd3kcRXFQhsmi84660053x200BTo be taken with a small grain of saltTheory that Coronavirus Escaped from a Lab Lacks Evidencehttpswwwthescientistcomnewsopiniontheorythatcoronavirusescapedfromalablacksevidence67229utmcampaignTSOTC2020utmsourcehsemailutmmediumemailutmcontent84660053hsencp2ANqtzoCnpI6bH1k0jWvq0e23KBrfoUZ5ph2OhFr9KT6oJDjSELIe5Sbku47Fg3qzmAOTkKdDDw5er0DncxLFgfd3kcRXFQhsmi84660053httpswwwthescientistcomnewsopiniontheorythatcoronavirusescapedfromalablacksevidence67229utmcampaignTSOTC2020utmsourcehsemailutmmediumemailutmcontent84660053hsencp2ANqtzoCnpI6bH1k0jWvq0e23KBrfoUZ5ph2OhFr9KT6oJDjSELIe5Sbku47Fg3qzmAOTkKdDDw5er0DncxLFgfd3kcRXFQhsmi84660053x200BTwo weeks quarantine inadequate for containing spread unless late stage testing available to confirm disease free stateCoronavirus can live in patients for five weeks after contagionhttpswwwcrainsclevelandcomhealthcarecoronaviruscanlivepatientsfiveweeksaftercontagionhttpswwwcrainsclevelandcomhealthcarecoronaviruscanlivepatientsfiveweeksaftercontagion|0 Hard to produce and distribute food when nobody is working|0 Thanks bro I may need it for some unexpected hospital bills|1 Right Its fucking astounding how people are SO complacent|1 I didnt realize this was a formal technique but Ive been mentally preparing for the last week As a future looking risk averse person I tend to do what you described by nature However this situation makes the exercise a little worse than usual Its depressing and sobering but better that than being completely unprepared And if were lucky the selfinduced stress will turn out to be for nothing Not counting on that unfortunately|0 I am always sappy about this stuff|0 The measures were implemented too late but theyre doing the most they can there are mandatory lockdown zones and the citizens are being educated everyday on new measures folks from China in small rural places can attest to this what more can you do with the budget We criticize blindly and Im sick and tired of this they need our support not our blind unconstructive criticism|0 Lol not enough of a wake up call to change anything|1 Just to play devils advocate heh if God exists why would he be obligated to help humans out everytime we get ourselves in trouble Perhaps he could help perhaps he couldnt maybe he has bigger shit to deal with or maybe he allows humans to be left to their own devices and to be responsible for helping eachother rather than relying on divine intervention Just saying your statement doesnt disprove God at all or is even a particularly strong argument|1 One thing I dont understand if infected person sneeze over the products or to hand and touches everywhere in the store how elderly people get protected I mean do you take any precautions when you order stuff to home Deliveryman touches to everything that he brings to you They say virus can live up to 72 hours on surfaces Do you clean packages with an alcohol 70 or what If not I think you have a chance to get infected|1 While here in the US its stay home if you want but its totally fine if you dont|1 Yes it said 10000 already infected|0 Fuck those flu bros|0 north korea handled this virus the best of any countries and they were ranked lowest for pandemic prevention by the international community|1 If he is then we wont be seeing him at all Hell be sunning in Mar a Lago while Pence does the heavy lifting|0 But but its the American waysupply and demands A lot like hoarding with a view to scalping really|1 Most teachers Ive met just get drunk and bash the students after school|0 Thats silly The CDC is inept no matter the Administration Youre mistake is that you ever trusted government to help|1 Well your non trusting ass is probably why the pandemic is worse out there because by Febraury China had warnes everyoneBut since nothing China says can be trusted|1 Its piqued not peakedHe was making a joke about words a lot of people get wrong|0 Yes There are statistical detection programs that monitor ICU and hospital admissions connected between every hospital to monitor for exactly this type of thing There is a scientist on Twitter a lady who has been monitoring this and does a weekly announcement I am sorry I cannot remember her name but as of the other day no statistical anomalies in pneumonia admissions had been detected in the USA|0 except the public health authorities agree with meApparently nothttpsbaltimorecbslocalcom20200316somegrocerystoresareofferingelderlyhourstohelpprotectoldershoppersamidcoronaviruspandemicOur leadership team studied this option thoroughly and due to recommendations from health officials we have determined this is not the best and safest option for our customers the company said in a statement HEB takes care of Texas and we feel asking a group to congregate at our stores in a certain timeframe is not a safe ideaUnless you can demonstrate some kind of medical degree I suggest you shut the fuck up right quick with statements on what is absolutely safer|1 Well thats good news for those who need to quarantine masks or other things I have plenty of masks to do a 2 week quarantine thankfully but I will look into this more I know plenty of familyfriends with limited stocks|1 Witcher 3 for me 1st play through was during a bout with pertussis a few years back Its pretty and the nature is nice when youre trapped inside|1 Sure were fixing that soon|1 What about morbid obesity Asking for a friend|1 Cirencester from what Ive heard kids from Deer Park went skiing in Italy during half term and apparently were asked to self isolate It may well be something to do with thatEdit not Cirencester hopefully the isolated people all test negative|0 Except the death rate makes the US look like the most backwater country in existence|0 How is it Americans fight tooth and nail against our commie healthcare for all systemSome believe the lies that your universal systems dont actually provide good healthcare Others are willing to forgo care themselves if it means brown people and single mothers cant have it either|0 Probably an amazing time for Twitch Streamers too Staying at home playing video games IS their moneymaker and now that more and more people are beginning to take this seriously and self quarantine means more and more potential viewers|1 So the boss should just stop taking payments Who is going to pay you when him and his business go bankrupt|0 Point taken but reminder that we have antivirals Ill add that to the postIAC I still think 15 million is overstated China is one of the most populous nations and I would ask you if you think their death rate is going be a million over the next year|0 Hong Kong has managed to stem the tide of the infection mostly because the majority of people there already wear masks Thats probably more likely to be preventing the spread from the infected to noninfected vs preventing infection from people breathing in infectious vapor imo|0 Dont be a racist mofoEdit You ARE a racist mofo|1 A Tennessee man who became a subject of national scorn after stockpiling 17700 bottles of hand sanitizer donated all of the supplies on Sunday just as the Tennessee attorney generals office began investigating him for price gougingOn Sunday morning Matt Colvin an Amazon seller outside Chattanooga Tenn helped volunteers from a local church load twothirds of his stockpile of hand sanitizer and antibacterial wipes into a box truck for the church to distribute to people in need across TennesseeOfficials from the Tennessee attorney generals office on Sunday took the other third which they plan to give to their counterparts in Kentucky for distribution Mr Colvin and his brother Noah bought some of the supplies in Kentucky this monthThe donations capped a tumultuous 24 hours for Mr Colvin On Saturday morning The New York Times published an article about how he and his brother cleaned out stores of sanitizer and wipes in an attempt to profit off the publics panic over the coronavirus pandemic Mr Colvin sold 300 bottles of hand sanitizer at a markup on Amazon before the company removed his listings and warned sellers they would be suspended for price gougingAs a result Mr Colvin was sitting on an enormous cache of sanitizer and wipes while much of the country searched in vain for themThe article immediately sparked widespread outrage with thousands of people posting angry comments across the internet about his actionsMany of those people also contacted Mr Colvin directly with hate mail and death threats while one man even banged on the door at his home late Saturday night according to Mr Colvin and several messages he shared with The TimesIn an hourlong interview on Sunday Mr Colvin expressed remorse for his actions and said that when he decided to hoard the sanitizer and wipes he didnt realize the gravity of the coronavirus outbreak or the severe shortage of sanitizer and wipesIve been buying and selling things for 10 years now Theres been hot product after hot product But the thing is theres always another one on the shelf he said When we did this trip I had no idea that these stores wouldnt be able to get replenishedHe said the outpouring of hate has been scary for him and his family He said people have incessantly called his cellphone posted his address online and sent pizzas to his home His inbox was flooded with ugly messages he said One email he shared with The Times said Your behavior is probably going to end up with someone killing you and your wife and your childrenIt was never my intention to keep necessary medical supplies out of the hands of people who needed them he said crying Thats not who I am as a person And all Ive been told for the last 48 hours is how much of that person I amNow Mr Colvin is facing consequences On Sunday Amazon and eBay suspended him as a seller which is how he has made his living for years The company where he rented a storage unit kicked him out And the Tennessee attorney generals office sent him a ceaseanddesist letter and opened an investigationWe will not tolerate price gouging in this time of exceptional need and we will take aggressive action to stop it Attorney General Herbert H Slatery III of Tennessee said in a news releaseTennessees pricegouging law prohibits charging grossly excessive prices for a variety of items including food gas and medical supplies after the governor declares a state of emergency The state can fine people up to 1000 a violationThe language of the law could benefit Mr Colvin Gov Bill Lee of Tennessee declared a state of emergency on March 12 activating the pricegouging law The Colvin brothers bought all of the sanitizer and wipes in question before that date and Mr Colvin said he did not sell anything after itA spokeswoman for the Tennessee attorney generals office said that even if the Colvin brothers did not buy or sell any of the supplies after March 12 state authorities will weigh all options under consumer laws|0 FUCK THE CCP FUCK XI JINPING AND THE CORRUPT COMMIES|0 Stare into the abyss of reality with meIt is easy for a lot of people to point fingers at a distance and scrutinize why everything wasnt done humanely or in a foolproof mannerFact is situation often require a balance between the two objectives and we may not have the luxury of bothWe already see how unprepared governments across the world are Let us hope they dont get tested the same way as China was If they are I wouldnt be surprised to see a similar clusterfuck|1 I feel fine I want to go for a walk|1 Stop trying to twist this into something its not|0 Gloves will help as long as you take them off and toss them before entering your green zone virus free zone like house I wear gloves mask and goggles outside of my green zone house and remove them all and rinse myself with hose before entering green zone This way I minimize contact with virus outside of green zone and prevent it from entering with me as best I canEdit I also disinfect thins with Cloroxhand sanitizer as needed before entering|1 Yeah its gonna be bad|0 How so Multiple reports from China of reinfection after symptoms had subsidedMost of those have been said to be false positive tests by the WHOOf course it is theoretically possible to throw a positive test for a secondary infection before the immune system ramps up second immune response which is greater than the firstWe have yet to see reports of genuine reinfection with the same levels of symptoms and infectivity from countries outside of ChinahttpsyoutubeE4FCmB3RNCU|1 I dont think its incompetence or at least not entirely Many Italians especially young people are literally ignoring the directives and obligations to avoid crowded places and gatherings I am not talking about those who do so for reasons of extreme urgency but those who have decided to take advantage of closed schools to crowd bars bowling social centres and other demonstrations by acting in a completely reckless manner If we die we owe it in part to a generation of total unconsciousness I speak as an Italian and as a person who in Piedmont has been locked indoors for about two weeks despite not having any symptoms|0 Man What a great idea for an app But is this actually low hanging fruit It seems like a major endeavor to get this out widely enough to make it useful|1 Take the Chinese documents describing what they are going to do Sorry bno is failing the interpretation of the documents Dont trust neither go to the documents from the government|0 You get it The main reason why this will fuck the US up is because you guys have outbreak zones in almost every state while the Chinese outbreak was limited to an specific area mainly|0 There really isnt much point but I guess they are just saying this so the extra paranoid people can feel better when they wipe their phone|1 Im a republican and voted for trump but Im been taking this seriously since Italy That was my wakeup call along with an ama on here with a doctor in the UK who is dealing with the disease Still have tons of friends who want to blame this on media and social media and my parents want to blame the democrats I even made a post in one group tonight social media isnt making doctors in italy have to choose who to treat and who not to treat in a war style triage I hope and pray it doesnt get like that here but looking at what is going on other places is very sobering|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 They are trying to block out just how awful this thing already is in other countries and downplay just how bad it is going to be hereWhen is the last time you saw ANYTHING on a networknews showabout the current status in Iran|0 I especially like his video on how you cant be anything you want to be I dont think many people realize that focusing on your weakness rather than your strengths probably isnt the best way to go about things|0 I didnt hear this part Are you sure|1 There is a new house resolution out to directly help all Americans over age 18 Contact your congressman or woman and ask them to support HRes 897 to provide an Emergency UBI for every American 1000mo nontaxable for everyone over age 18 during the state of emergency This can help us get through the hard times aheadhttpsmobiletwittercomTulsiGabbardstatus1238516118391791617|1 True But Im thinking more like these people whove been elected to help serve us have led us to suffer yet they remain unscathed Its not about wealth per se|1 still number of deaths in a day is insane and yesterday was 170its worse than wuhan the epicenter with 70000 casesi dont get it|0 We just had a coworker whos fiance is currently being tested and were all still at workThis shit is fucking astounding|0 I think there is a big chance that we will lose quite a few high ranking officials and politicians all over the world in the coming weeks|0 thanks for the info|1 Nowadays the virus has already gone global looking at the US and Europe There is no another outbreak in China|0 This link works as well httparchiveisazoVVhttparchiveisazoVV|1 Even those countries Poland Czechia are acting way too slowly The time to close schools ban travelling to infected ares ban mass gatherings sporting events etc was two weeks ago By now its too late for such halfmeasures to have much effect Pretty much all European countries should be locking down public life as much as possible already right now full quarantine measures like in northern Italy except actually enforced or Hubei Thats likely their only chance to avoid an Italylike scenario in the next two weeks Except not a single country in Europe is doing anything like that not even remotely By the time they do it will again be too late|0 Damn it It was one of my only A and now|0 Thanks so much super appreciate it |1 Come back in a few months and we will create one of our own Why save months using someone elses design when we can reinvent the wheel|1 Keep posts on topic In general we dont need new posts that are jokes memes shitposts or other unhelpful and unrelated comments|1 I hope so And not only that but any aircraft which has flown a China route needs to have every fucking interior inch of it scrubbed down and sanitized like no tomorrow|1 Damn Can I ask which field you were in|0 My boomer father that isnt all that healthy keeps saying it only kills people over 80 Driving me crazy I guess his Mom who is over 80 doesnt matter|0 Yet the poorest and more in need of socialized medicine go out of their way to keep voting for the same people that keeps denying them that right|0 Imagine what Russia has to hide|0 its so hilarious to see stupid highschool kids triggered|0 Its not creating it its testing it for 12 months and then manufacturing enough to vaccine everyone Its going to be awhile|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 The articles on the study failed to say all the parameters of the testing But it changes so much every day I hear a new estimate of time it lingers in air and on surfaces I am just taking extra precaution because its better safe than sorry|1 Diamond Princess is at about 1 7 deaths out of 696 infections And that could still climb as not all of those patients have recovered yet|1 Southern NH shopped last night 80 of the fresh produce was gone 90 of the fresh meat too No milk Medium and large bags of rice were wiped out Entire cleaning aisle was empty no paper goods except tissues grab these if you cant find TP they work just fine No lysol bleach or hand soap I found some hand soap in the organic aisle and grabbed a couple Jugs and cases of water were being rationed 2x per person If I werent already worried before that shopping trip definitely got my heart beating Really felt apocalyptic though everyone was pretty friendlyI bought enough food to eat well for 23 weeks a month if we stretch it From what Ive read in other countries people havent had a hard time getting food even under quarantine so Im not sure all this is necessary but that fear just nags at you|0 Its hard to say what would have happened but Im glad to see a post reminding people that China spent well over a month claiming this monster virus wasnt a problem and arresting people who said it was China can donate medical masks and supplies now and Im not saying that isnt a good thing but please dont let that distract from Chinas mismanagement and cruelty in the initial phases of this pandemic|1 I work in a roomful of 610 Chinese people every day I adore them They arent always the same people every year either so Im fortunate to have many Chinese friends They are peoplejust like everyone else They are kind caring considerate fun to be around Its bad enough that people here in the US make up or hear spread the dumbest untrue things about the Chinese culture under normal circumstances but now Now When who knows exactly how many people in China are really dying or suffering Really IMO we are getting zero real news from any source I was downvoted 2 days ago for saying that no government anywhere wants their people to know how bad this really is but surely its true China is a huge part of the global economy every countrys economy will surely go down because nobody can work like they normally do in China Everyone is also concerned about their health we still have very little information I hope Im wrong but I think this is a huge global threat its very sad for anyone to think they deserve this Its Chinese New Year is their biggest holiday Their celebration here that I attend annually was cancelled this year because people who had just arrived here from China were invited to participate Nobody deserves this Especially not during what should be the biggest celebration of their culture My 2 cents|1 Not downplaying what is going on but the need to vaccinate against measles is legit Measles is a fucking crazy virus and much more contagious than coronavirus Its lethality may end up being less than coranavirus but it kills young children compared to coronavirus which does not appear as lethal to childrenIf measles were a new virus this year people would be shitting their pants Let us not forget that we should all be vaccinating This antivaxer bullshit is probably our biggest problem to disease control going forward Hopefully if this new virus gets so out of hand there is a vaccine developed quickly to contain it in the future years|0 I think the very stable genius needs to continue to have mass rallies for his 2020 reelection People who can self quarantine or social distance themselves will if they are able Some hourly workers do not have that choice Some salaried workers must work to pay their bills NO SICK LEAVE because the very stable genius does not give a care for the real peple of the USA or world|0 This has been the usual pattern in Ontario close contacts which are traceable Hopefully hes kept himself isolated too No evidence of untraceable community spread yet|0 I highly doubt that the Italian numbers are incorrect considering that a massive amount of international cases come from travelers from Italy|0 Im going to need some sort of source if youre going to promote boogereating for health and vitalityThen again if you DONT pick your nose the cilia in your nose still push it down your throat into your stomach So we eat our boogers either wayBreathing thru your nose and not removing your nose hair and being well hydrated for optimal snot production utilizes a pretty nifty filtration system all the mucusy hairs serve a purpose|1 Instead of Mexico sneaking over drugs and selling them theyd be sneaking over toilet paper and selling themCheck ebay The toilet papers are selling at 70 to 100 Insane|0 however could be a potential attack surface for antivirals that block furin cleavage as wellDiscussed and the method demonstrated in DOI101074jbcM703847200Targeting host cell furin proprotein convertases as a therapeutic strategy against bacterial toxins and viral pathogensTo develop sharply focused and specific antagonists of pathogen entry we developed nanomolar range peptide inhibitors of host cell furin and furinrelated PCsFor these purposes we modified the sequence of the extended furin cleavage sequence of avian influenza A H5N1 HA HA is synthesized as a precursor moleculeHA0 which undergoes proteolytic processing into two subunitsHA1 and HA2 which are held together by disulfide bonds Without proteolysis the acidtriggered conformational change of HA that occurs in the endosomes and that exposes the fusion peptide cannot occur and the virus is noninfectious|1 Yeah dont want our meds going to Johnny Foreigner|1 Ive been saying that plumbers are going to be in high demand when people run out of TP We all have old sagging clay pipes where Im at and it wont take much to plug em up|0 Get your employees to wash their damn hands first|0 This isnt new This delivery method was developed years ago and declassified a couple years ago They have to tailor it to the Corona virus specifically and that is what takes time along with other political and operational challenges|1 Im not scientist and personally think that even leave the fact about heat and temperature aside People in tropical countries tend to take shower and wash their hands and change their clothes much more than people in cold countries do I know there are always disgusting dirty or poor people who dont wash themselves much everywhere but still South East Asianers tend to take shower like 2 times a day|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yeah dont buy it Id think wouldve mentioned it sooner that cruise ship sitch has been going on a while now|1 Yep which is what too many people seem to not be getting|1 It isnt ALL about viral load Sure it obviously would play a major role However this is a novel virus with many unknowns Im sure its possible for a healthy person to be exposed to a low viral load and have a serious infection There are reports of encephalitis myocarditis and pulmonary fibrosis in patients This virus is like a box of chocolates You never know what youre gonna get|1 idk man im still seeing a lot of hilarious conspiracy theory posts but you may be right that this sub is better than the rest im just thinking that the rest is pretty shitty|1 I got hit with something early Feb that felt like a normal flu but made it super difficult to breathe My lungs felt heavy|1 spanish flu was particularly harsh on young healthy people|0 Oh my God this just makes you want to go buy more toilet paper|1 Frankly because of people like your sister Realizing youve run low on TP is embarrassing on a good day in the midst of all this its downright irresponsible To be fair its not her fault Public Health has done a terrible job at helping us prepare by repeating risk remains low But we have been watching this unfold for months weve seen whats happened in other countries and yet the general public has been carrying on as if nothing was happening waiting for officials to tell them what to do So when the province finally begins to take action and people begin to take this seriously of course there is panic buying We knew it was coming and yet everybody whos had their head in the sand to this point is now realizing how unprepared they are and panicking to compensate If someone has to stand in a line for 2 hours to buy groceries this week theyve no one to blame but themselves Sorry|0 I was under the impression that animal trials wouldnt work because the virus is only able to enter human cells as the lock and key method is a one in a trillion chance and hence the same virus cannot enter and replicate it other animals hence why dogs can get infected but show no symptomsOr maybe Im retarded so take this with a plate of salt because this is just thoughts|0 Thank you|1 Like insideOr outside|1 Ah now that you mention it I recognize 2 for his stupidity with the microphones and 5 was on rall as well|0 Can you please find for me a website that shows how many total Italy has tested I really need this information Thank you|1 Hinkley C and Bridgewater House in Bristol closed for deepclean and staff selfisolate after colleague tests positive on return to China httpswwwthisisthewestcountrycouknews18274740hinkleycdeepcleanedbristolworkerreportedlytestspositivecoronavirus|1 Source please|1 Eh seniors is a good word else youd have all the lazy morbidly obese middle aged women asking you to stand in line for them for Lysol|1 Society is not going to break downYou are guessing againThis is a situation that is unique not seen since the Spanish flu in 1918 which caused MAJOR disruptions to communities and society as a wholeIt is a reference for what may happen soonPlease stop guessing its dangerous to base your actions on guesswork|0 I was going to say where it and let him fire you then collect unemployment|0 And what happens after the emergency is over People are forced to go back to work with any number of other ailments Honestly it just sounds like theyre saving face|1 Yeah cause a coronavirus is a type of virus unless youre talking about this one specifically|1 The lower class fuels this countys economy Its not slavery but its sort of perpetual access to cheap labor that never stops The day you cant work a 16 hour shift theres 10 other poor people standing in line behind you that are willing to do it We keep this country going not the upper middle class with their ability to consider job offers and their lunch breaks|1 Same Syracuse Best of luck|1 We gonna vomit like its ya sick day|0 In Czech Republic we found out the state only has enough food reserves to last 13 days Not likely to be necessary for this but just shows the level of incompetence around the globe|0 Yep Sun Myung Moon was another one You know the cult with mass weddings in stadiums He proclaimed himself the Second Coming of Jesus ChristhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSunMyungMoon|1 All good Except for temporary Internet disconnection but I suspect thats because of my usage of VPN|0 What make you think that patients arent getting chloroquine Its in the treatment guidelines of multiple countries at this point Most countries are not waiting for final studies to come out This is a 70 year old drug all the side effects are well known and manageableThe really important thing is that chloroquine is most useful toward the beginning of infection It is an antiviral so it will act against the virus but it wont repair your damaged lungs Countries need to accelerate testing and catch people early in their infection so they can be quarantined and given antivirals during their optimal treatment windowItalys approach of testing only people with symptoms severe enough to need hospitalization is basically throwing away the possibility of using antivirals to prevent mild cases from becoming severe cases|1 Yes I think it would be good to do as well Just amazed to hear it from Cotton|1 Thank you by no means is it asking anyone to not protect their family just not take excess in a time of need|0 We vaccinate hundreds of millions every year It is not a big deal Pharmacies urgent cares and hospitals can do it with the tests|1 Yeah sure Do a survey or quit talking trash|1 This is the result of the american people having a fuck you I got mine attitude if the US had universal healthcare it could tackle this epidemic in a much faster way People do not want to seek medical help because they cannot afford to lose all thier savings or go bankrupt this carries over when a real nationwide emergency occurs whether the treatmenttests are free or not many will simply put their heads in the sand because the healthcare system is for profit They do not see it as a welcoming place to get well and instead see nothing but locked doors to a place they cannot afford|1 If you eat your TP it wipes your ass on the way out Two birds with one stone|0 Thats more of a case of the state being unprepared 2 Jazz players tested positive It makes sense that the rest of the players coaches and medical staff get tested since theyre in constant contact with each other Also fun fact the 2 players that tested positive have lockers right next to each other|1 Your comment has been removed because it is about broader political discussion or offtopic Rule 7 which diverts focus from the science of the disease Please keep all posts and comments related to COVID19 This type of discussion might be better suited for rcoronavirus or rChinaFlu If you think we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 impartial and on topic|1 Some call it nihilism some call it acceptance|1 yeah Ive actually gotten two mild mini colds since this whole thing hit the news|1 Thanks|1 type 1 diabetic here how likely could it be compared to people who dont have it I was hospitalized twice last year the doctors told me my immune system was really bad how scared should type 1s really be do you think None of my diabetic friends are concerned neither is my family|0 Got 4 handles of 175 L of Titos and 2 handles of Jameson A beer drinker huh Check this out lol httpsimgurcomgalleryVfKQLth|1 Those are great pictures I felt like I was actually there for a moment Nice to know some tidbits about the city Thank you for sharing and providing nice little descriptions to each picture |1 Best OC on rChinaFlu|1 gotta stop that racism yaknow|0 Some DIY and MakerSpaces are looking at Ventilators Creating something that would be helpful for sharing Ventilators might be a good project for them Project OpenAir httpsappjoglioproject121httpsappjoglioproject121|1 Ok I meant to say people with the virus clearly It is horrible many could end up like thishttpsmobiletwittercompultestatus1236808249262911497|1 Haha me too I guess that starts narrowing down which college since so many in Jersey have already done that|1 On the flip side John will be at Costco ASAP buying a Tahoe XL worth of masks because FECK EVERYONE ELSE|1 yeah so do I theres sort of a catch 22 thoughmore martial law and less death and possibility we lose democracy or more death and honor code distancing and all shit hits the fan|0 We are an open and free SocietyThats the problem you guys have put freedom on a pedestal free is always good in your culture Even when freedom actually kills people because letting people run around and do whatever they like during a pandemic is a lot worse than forcing them to stay home and you know not die|1 Contact your physician again Tell himher about your anxiety level Maybe they can help explain why they do not consider you a possible patient To help with your respiratory symptoms try a humidifier with tea tree and eucalyptus oils Both are antiviral and kill the flu virus Not sure about corona virus but it cant hurt|1 He also wrongly stated it was illegal they did in Zika The lies from Tallahasse strike again|0 Like in Italy where the parents in order to keep working sent their kids to their grandparents and boom death toll rised to 3 digits|0 How come a basketball team can get their hands on tests at a moments notice but I keep hearing there arent enough tests Is it just because they get priority or do I just not understand how tests work I mean I definitely dont understand how they work but what dont I understand about their availability Like are these teams just swabbing players et al and sending to labs that do have tests Or is it more local or rapid tests Are there people who have symptoms that dont have testing available|1 Thats what I hate about this outbreakIts a mixed bag of freak out and everythings sorta ok|0 Gonna do a 4th playthrough if shit hits the fan Its one of my favorite games but its been years since Ive had the time to commit to it Silver linings I suppose|1 Seems to me like the 2025 of ICU cases that require artificial respiration are the folks who will end up with this condition 80 of us will hopefully fare better The real problem lies in the fact that you can keep getting it over and over again and it sticks around on surfaces for days if not weeks And I also read having antibodies actually does more harm than good so each reinfection is worse I dont see a vaccine working here we have to somehow eradicate the virus entirely but every day people keep flying around the world making things worse and worse|0 The major part of the initial outbreak is that the local health authorities had been given an unrealistically high testing standard by the municipal and provincial governments to simply prevent local hospitals from testing infected people much like what the US did about 2 weeks ago|0 This is a good thing unlike the usual An important statement from us about the coronavirus emails Im currently drowning in from every merchant Ive ever given my email address toMy tree surgeon and my creditcard provider just emailed me I see Hmm Genuine concern or just advertising|1 Senolytics show some benifit in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fisetin quercetin so treatment with dasatinib quercetin may prove more helpful but studies are needed httpswwwthelancetcomarticleS2352396418306297fulltext|1 3M makes all of its N95s in Aberdeen SD in the US They regularly run 5day shifts but just announced theyre running around the clock to meet demand Stop spreading FUD|0 Arizona here The governor just ordered the closure of all schools at least through March 27th University has gone online only through the rest of the semester Stores are starting to become barren in spots All in all its seemingly becoming far more serious very quickly Gov also said gatherings of over 50 people are bannedI work in the schools so my week spring break just got extended by a week Ill mostly be staying in I ship out stuff I sell on Mercari so Im hoping USPS doesnt stop delivering mail|1 Out of curiosity who is enforcing the limited number of people inside supermarkets Illinformed American here forgive me Hoping things start to settle down for you soon|1 Ok now Im pissed|0 Maybe Ive never measured how much my dogs drink I read it somewhere Probably a good rule of thumb for stocking up and if its on the high side even better|1 I read it as other subs is trash but has the same mods so this sub is trash if that wasnt what you were saying then I apologize|1 Yes but they will now be required to stay in their fully stocked lairs for 14 straight days|1 People do not have money food are up in the ass with debt living from paycheck to paycheck and they cannot afford not to work for even a week Also if this takes too long then all small and middle businesses will go bankrupt and we will be left with big corporations picking up the slack and Im not OK with that vision despite the fact that my situation is good|0 Thats a great point Do you know if they test regularly for pneumonia patients|1 There hospital bills alone|0 The same reason it didnt want to send aid to Puerto Rico The same reason its doing nothing about the poor and working classThe same reason it wont provide its people with universal Healthcare coverage and educationThe same reason the US does nothing about its own environment much less climate changex200BIts being run by Libertarian capitalists Youre on your own and pay me while you do it is their motto|1 This article is exactly what I have been trying to articulate to my family and friendsIn fact I think Ill forward it to my local school boardMuch appreciated|1 they just need to make it a coronavirus marathon all will be well|1 That is a very good point my friend Its terrible in quite a few places which is little comfort for us all Stay safe and be well|1 How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital while youre being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu Please tell that to your friends THAT is what they have to lose from the virus|0 Yea totally playground equipment is hygienic and this cant possibly go wrongEdit TIL Apparently NY has very ambitious hiking terrain In Michigan our state parks have playground equipment|1 Yeah kill the people who cant afford it|0 Itll possibly be worse here because itll blow up the same way but the citizens wont do whats necessary to stifle it and our country is much less healthy in general|1 I try to appeal to peoples selfish nature and ask them if they fancy having their lungs turned into honeycombs httpswwwnationalgeographiccoukscienceandtechnology202002hereswhatcoronavirusdoesbodyYes they may survive but the survivors could come away with permanent consequences to their major organs their lives will be changed forever and not fpr the better|0 A normal cotton cloth averages around 70 effectiveness Anything else you add to that can help to increase it Even if you can only make them single use still more effective than nothing httpssmartairfilterscomenblogdiyhomemademaskprotectviruscoronavirus|1 yeah if the virus does not have any new cases in japansingaporekorea for multiple weeks in a row ill start eating my supply|0 Speaking about Russia as a developing country and with such a high level of corruption going on there they just do not have any means of the virus identification So I would not trust the russian numbers at all and this stuff is there for sure specifically in areas which are closer to China It is the same issue as with a number of people with cancer in Russia Just FYI I am from Russia|0 Ok so can we talk about how OP has a title that makes a huge claim falsely but everyone still assumes its true They cannot confirm that the Chinese govt is involved nor that these people are forced This is all anecdotal evidence from what looks to be mostly Facebook We have no way to verify the information either what is being presented is incredibly easy to fake Im not saying it is nor am I rejecting that it may be a common experience my point is that theres a lot of assumptions being made here that we tend to just take on without questioning Its incredibly ironic that we claim China is the one pushing propaganda when posts like this are becoming more more common here|1 I dont how it works in the US but here we have people that do grocery shopping for the elderly so they can stay home Doing so you can greatly reduce the possibilty of them contracting the virus I dont know if its possible for you but if you could you should do it Leave the bag with the groceries outside their door and tell them to wash their hands when theyve finished putting the stuff away in the fridge And you should stay away from crowded places aswell In my county they are shutting down almost everything even tho we have like 14 casesHopefully you guys will work something out I have some relatives in Newark NJ myself that are quite old and one of them has a lung condition|1 Would be better if your step sistern didnt visit that concert at all in the first place|1 Yes but its still close to half and half so 4045 in the winter And in the summer where were outside and have the sprinklers and stuff going my little brother comes in from college and I dont charge him summer bills arent fun lol|0 Ive made it a rule to never use my phone when I am out I also saw some Wuhan hospitals put their phones in plastic zip bags thats possible easier to clean|1 e might react too late to ensure a small and contained number of cases And lets not go on the current social conditions that have led to widespread strikes including in the medical sector and with 1200 head of sections who resignedah a battle ship thats where id like to be rn id name hms mobile greenland|1 The ruler of CCP is just like this nCoV outbreak At first it affects China and its surroundings People thought it is something far from happening to themselves so they dont care They watched the protest in HK and thinks that the people there over react The media covers up China arent that bad Then some small things are happening around u u started to realize the threat is real But before u know it there is not stopping of it So what do u do now to stop this tragedy from happening|0 Havent seen something this worthy of gold in a while Wish I had some to give Thank you dude This is amazing|1 I work here in town at a hospital Yes Demand a test And go ahead limit contactand no Im not a medical professionalbut Im shocked Cause I know where his wife works Ugh Im just as furious as you are|0 80 of Americans live paycheck to paycheck so dont feel bad|1 They shouldnt be risking their life No one is wearing proper gear to not set off a panic Go get a positive a pressure hood with fan ned filter or military gear Those dumb mask dont cut it None of this much better gear cost much too It is all being handled moronically|1 Im due in July My job has allowed me to work from home and fu in two weeks to see if I can come back Otherwise they may let me work from home the remainder of my pregnancy|0 If all regions will start testing and quarantining then Ill agree with you right now I dont think this is enough at all And it will be evident during March|0 Remember everyone The US is the size of ALL the countries of Europe and you can add some middle Eastern countries Our numbers of infected and deaths may be much higher then any one country in Europe due too the sheer size and population of the USChina basically only had it in one region And they sealed it off quick relatively speaking The US has infections all over the countryIm a glass half empty kinda guy and as soon these drive thru tests become available across the country Be prepared to see numbers we wouldnt have fathomed 2 weeks ago|0 IMO the timeline depends on if COVID19 reacts to warm weather like diseases that spread in a similar way such as colds and the flu Those illnesses spread more easily when the air is cold and dry and less easily when it is warm and humid If COVID19 behaves the same way people living in the northern hemisphere may see life return to a more normal situation by summer If not and if the current quarantine and containment efforts arent successful we may be looking at a longer road Its just too early to know for sure|1 LOL keep waiting for it Manufacturing in the West has always been there and continues to be more and more efficient upgrading to highly advanced segments requiring more skilled less cheap labor and sometimes full on automatic The sort of cheap labor manufacturing you mean to mention will never come back The low skilled average Joe continue drinking lies afte lies from Western elites Plus there is the law of comparative advantage if it was the best option to move away from China capitalism would have done it already|1 Watch the link from MSNBC they made that mistake on air|0 when the economy really crashes Saving money right now is a very good ideaEconomy crash will have no effect on dollar value Decrease in dollar value will have no effect on saved dollarsHow can saving decreasing value dollars help|1 I am like 90 sure I have the roni right now and i literally just have slightly shortened breaths and have been feeling these symptoms for days I only think its the virus cause I got off a cruise last week and my room mate on the boat now has a light fevercoughing before this sub Reddit attacks me I AM NOT TRYING TO DOWNPLAY THIS VIRUS im locked in my room play games and eating instant ramen All im tying to say is that I think there are many times more infected that have little to no symptoms so really no I dont think many will be coughingshittingpuking for two weeks That said this is probably a main part of why its spread so fast people hardly notice even after the incubation period|0 Put him on the no fly list|0 My daughter is coming back from Milan this week Self isolation for the household is in tap Seems stupid to put the student on isolation but no one in household who is coming in contact during that two weeks Hang outcatch up binge watch Netflix Virus timeFamily time|0 Thats why its an emergency measure when the alternative is to do nothing emergency medical professionals find a way|0 Yes we were talking about common trends among them everybody understands itDont be oversensitive and shut up its not about you and nobody cares if you feel insulted for no reason|1 Yea this would work outif I didnt have roommates who probably arent going take it as seriously and can and probably WILL catch the virus and bring it to my front door by thinking it isnt that contagious and that they will be fine|1 No part is virus free but some have very few cases At least its what reported by the government|1 THE POWER OF PAIN COMPELS YOU|0 thank you id also just like to add that since they refuse all vaccinations and live in close quarters they are at much higher risks of comorbidity issues related to flu pneumonia etc ie since they are more likely to have other illnesses they are more likely to be immunostressed and die more quickly from COVID19my understanding is that there is a large hasidic community in new rochelle but i could be wrong about that|0 And now scientific director of the authoritative Spallanzani hospital where the earliest cases in Italy were treated allegedly makes some pretty appalling statementshttpswwwrepubblicaitcronaca20200227newssperanzaedimaiolitalianoneilfocolaiodelcoronaviruspuniremochispeculasumascherine249697970 in Italian on a newspaper normally considered authoritative to the tone that theyre working for Italy to only report on clinically relevant cases which might even sound reasonable except he defines that as in resuscitation or deadEven if that means the 1020 of cases normally termed serious thats going to make the number of cases artificially shrink Please be vigilant against tricks like this from the Italian government or other government I really hope someone has misunderstood something in the chain|1 Like someone else said it could be that there are other byproducts also if they were dumping sodium hypochlorite into the river the bleach reacting with other things can form noxious compounds the bleach turns into sodium chloride but also some chlorine gas and also the things it react with can form chloramines I think it is more likely though that the bleach factory is something more like a paper processing mill that bleaches things with something much more toxic such as sodium sulphate you would probably smell the sulphur in that case|1 What area Stay calm and stay safe fam|1 As long as you stay put Its easy the doors of your apartment were welded shut to help|1 An International oligarchy focused on shortterm profits Libertarianism favors small business|1 Dude exactly hes speaking out Now go after the people who want to keep it a secret Trump admin|1 Yes but bacterial I believe My post was meant to be satirical I should not be trusted for medical advice|0 Thats the same thing our government did since the virus outbreak too many little measures and too late till we got to thisDont listen to people calling It seasonal flu this virus kills a lot of people|0 If anything him not being a world authority makes him even more trustworthy Look at our world health authorities Look at them all Does their reaction to this crisis make you feel safe Because they dont make me feel safe John presenting the facts as just that facts stifling as much emotion as he can but just presenting the facts is hell of a lot more than what the joke of the WHO or CDC is doing|0 Better than having you and everybody you know get pneumonia Ive come to terms with the fact that money is out of the window for all of us now Might not seem like it yet but it will in a month This is more a case of survival The world economy will be fucked Forget about business and protect yourself Well get through this if we do that|0 I think almost certainly folk with CF need to take extra precautions my daughter has CF and recently became a mum Shes been warned to take extra precautions not sure what more she can do She still has to go to work so I imagine she is really scared right now|0 Those videos are terrifying Its what media isnt showing us Bodies on the streets People dying while waiting for help Why did they wait so long to get it Disgusting We should be better than this|0 Some will but a lot wont Every Trump supporter around me can not admit when Trump is wrong and will defend eveything he do They treat Trump as some higher power that cant be questioned and that doing so or voting Democrat is the end of times Our school had a meeting about sexual assault while we had a poster of Trump on the wall Some kid said so we should be the opposite of the president And the staff lashed out on the kid saying how we should all strive to be like the president and all this other stuff I guarantee my area wont do jack shit about Corona until its too late since its not even as bad as the flu and everyone is over reacting |1 Thanks for posting this information Very helpful|1 Why is this bad What does it really mean|0 Well the US and its wars of aggression it starts all the time are most hated all over the world It seems US citizens are so dumb that they dont even understand that their country is one of the least liked ones internationallyChina is far from perfect but it is at least a country with a much more peaceful foreign policy than the US admittedly that does not take much no other country is as violent and disregards international law as much as the US and the prison population in the US is significantly larger than in China in absolute terms even though China has several times the population of the USCertainly there can also be legitimate criticism of China But when people many of whom are from the US I am from Europe by the way the most extreme rogue state pretend their country is better and they dont even seem to understand all the crimes their country commits on an ongoing basis and no matter whether the president is a Democrat or Republican they have very little credibilityThere are also very few countries whose governments lie as much as the US The claims about weapons of mass destruction the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin for escalating the Vietnam war Russiagate conspiracy theories etc are only some of very many examples Outside the US very few people believe the bullshit the US government says|0 yeah im saying the experience from the last time something similar happened informed how the wuhan virus is treated this time SARS was just what happened last time|1 You think they will send fresh oil into burning flames that irresponsibly They are going in 110 protection as they see fit They are trying to front line this shit virus and doing all they can|0 Me too I still hope even after everything|1 Ah yes The Big Coronacrunch|1 Nonsocialised healthcare is terrifying|0 That is so true The only thing I am struggling with is getting myself to shift to a home workout instead of going to the gym It is however a great reason opportunity to take walks and enjoy the outside instead of forcing myself onto a treadmill out of convenience|1 Sabotage your employer|0 He already tried sliding anti abortion provisions in a bill this week|0 I mean the batteries make sense China is a huge supplier for batteries in North America and with supply chains being disrupted there could be shortages|1 Same please|1 Oh shit I got the subs completely mixed up I meant to say rCOVID19 is the scientific one Didnt realize there was another sub that goes with a similar name and having looked through it it may actually be even worse than this one which says a lot My apologies|0 That could save a life do it|1 Can confirmMy partner and I 2431 have been very cautious limiting our exposure to the outside world where possible My parents currently on vacation and sent me a picture of themselves on a beach in Georgia cant remember where with many other people on the beach Both are at significant risk 60 smokers and my father survived cancer last year Despite my best efforts with facts we still need to live our lives |0 is like contagion the movie but in real life|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 We have a presentation event every 2 weeks where I work About 40 people sit on chairs shoulder to shoulder to watch Its not really necessary but we are required to go Im aware that some people in our department have been to Italy in the last few weeks The next one is today I dont understand why its not been cancelled|1 Shit Im inclined to agree I mean I cannot see what I have seen over the past 60 days and come to a better and happier conclusion|1 Insanethink any local media outlets might be interested in reporting on this|1 Yes there will be an outbreak and yes youll probably contract it We need to stop looking at all this maskgoggle and hand cleaning shit like its preventing us from getting it This isnt the case all we can do is slow down the rate at which it spreads in hopes that there will be less deaths before we get a vaccine|1 Never made a vaccine for SARS 2002 MERS 2013 still doesnt have a vaccine and infects a few thousand annuallyjNot because they couldnt be vaccinated against but because funding dried up for SARS and for some reason MERS just hasnt been given funding youd think Saudi Arabia would dedicated a few hundred million on it since SA is where all the cases are|1 Uk still being a bit silly even with their big propaganda piece with all the buses still anyone can come from china uni towns will be hit hard if were unlucky|0 The moral of this story do your panic buying before everyone else panics Im investing a grand to have a months worth of everything Even if theres no apocalypse now or soon it will all get used eventually Plus a few things Ive always wanted but could never quite justify gas powered electric generator Maverick 88 pepper spray Kids stare at the mask I wear shopping I dont care|0 I mean arent 98 of those who die above 68 yo Still why the fuck would that be an argument The elderly their lives are worthless Its not scary enough to potentially lose the elderly people in your life and maybe one or two younger people|0 As a taxpayer in NYC Fine by me|1 So what if I want to go for a hike somewhere remote|1 No they arent some extra deaths yes but statistically of the 345 dead per day a good portion would have died anyway|0 I am in Glasgow The hydro website they are continuing as normal Are we actually restricting or was it just saying it should happen|0 Ok hes an idiot for taking so long but this is actually good Better late than never nevermind hes talking about how great his banks are again|1 My mom has cancer that has metastasized into her lungs She is fighting like hell but if she gets this she could die People dont fucking think or care Right now its terrifying to love someone who is at risk|0 Nobody is panicking Its just precautionAnd nCoV 2019 is more infectious It is also infectious without symptoms And has higher mortality rate So how is it the same as seasonal flu|0 The US military is not Trumps PMC People are right to be upset|0 Very interested to see how this actually pans out with citizensAlso NY always likes to be the first at everything Figures|1 Folk from Shenzhen city in another province of ChinaThe new Ive heard about Wuhan is that the initial in late Jan and early Feb number was underestimated as I saw people requesting help on the internet whose 70 years old mom had her lung full white on CT result But the hospital was at the maximum capacity and the test kit had run out way earlier Before the newly built hospital was functional the daily new positive cases was around 1000 or 2000 Things getting better when more test kits were produced and some universities and government properties like stadiums were converted to look after parients with light symptoms while the hospitals were used to take care of patients with severe symptoms Evidence shows that keeping patients at home is not an ideal solution as family members still had chance to get infected link below is a data collection website which recently had an update of English version which I consider to be quite usefulSorry for the poor English as I typed it on my phoneMay the force be with ushttpsncovdxycnncovh5viewenpneumoniafromdxysourcelinkshare|1 Im glad he handed it off to Pence|1 i has the 3 great camera i would not recommend the a7 the first one if thats what you mean as it lacks in body image stabilization but the 2 and 3 are great|1 Ive read that most young people will not see any effects beyond the regular flu Most people that I know would never go to the hospital over the flu Could be conflicting reports not sure Even so I along with many many many people 27 million uninsured people will most likely not go to the hospital under any circumstancesShit isnt a joke unless Im losing a limb Im not going to the hospital Its an unfortunate reality for so many people Its not out of stubbornness or just to be a dick I cant go bankrupt for sickness unless its obvious life or death|0 Not even sure what you are getting at Im not even a Bernie supporter so I dont know what he has to do with the comment|0 One sub is more relaxed with moderation allowing for stuff like speculation and other discussions The other sub just wants news articles I guess|1 Thats why they took down the teased number from their websitethey are not lying just dont tell you|1 GOOD|1 ive seen that article too and its what scares me the most i dont know much about mono tbh but with HIV once you have it youll forever be able to infect other people with it and it will eventually be what kills you but since HIV is transmitted through fluids as long as youre practicing safe sex and not sharing needles etc you can protect yourself and others if Covid19 is transmitted through respiratory droplets and can live on surfaces for a time if i were to get it would that mean id forever be able to infect others and have to wear a mask everywhere i go never be near the older people in my life that i love would this kill me when i enter my 60s or 70s maybe this logic is unreasonable and just a result of my anxiety disorder and panic i hope it is but im sitting here at work right now unable to focus and i can feel myself spiraling i work in contra costa county in the bay area in CA right between solano and alameda county where most if not all my coworkers commute from including myself i feel like im the only one freaked out about this|0 Youd think with his age and his germaphobia hed be hiding by now|0 Fuck Air Canada this means less than nothing|0 I was reading up on cytokine storms earlier I understand it to be a possible complication and found thishttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases201402140227142250htm Their findings published in this weeks online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences also clarify the workings of a potent new class of antiinflammatory compounds that prevent this immune overreaction in animal modelsWe show that with this type of drug we can quiet the storm enough to interfere with the virusinduced disease and lung injury while still allowing the infected host to mount a sufficient immune response to eliminate the virus said John R Teijaro an assistant professor in TSRIs Department of Immunology and Microbial Science and first author of the study|0 They are your bodys defense|1 I grow micro greens in my windowsill I have a huge pan of baby lettuce near a south window with a supplemental light on it Probably 6 good sized salads in it right now Grow some potatoes in a huge bagsack on your balcony carrots in a bucket Tomatoe plant with sugar snap peas around the stalk zucchini they grow so fast|1 Quarantine doesnt mean anarchy This is to avoid going out Dont you think that the authorities would monitor the risk areas |0 I will Ill answer any questions you guys have|0 I am unqualified but I think the quarantines were likely rather effective yes but again elevated concern for a disease that results in a rational decision to enact safety measures is NOT panic By definition panic impedes judgement please understand I am not arguing for a relaxed response|1 My city made parking downtown free after 430 pm to encourage people to go out to restaurants Why do people think what is happening in other places wont happen here I dont get why people think the US is different|1 Better open up and let it in Thats the only way survival instincts kick in not shutting it out and forgetting about it|1 Its the stupid lazy zoomers who cant stop getting drunk|0 Their lives matter more than ordinary peasants like ER docs or RNsMedical people are on the front line and face the highest risks due to non testing|1 If they cancel them I definitely wontSeems like a true statementI think that person is just saying you dont have to go even if they dont cancel it|1 Getting out the acrylic paints and baking cookies is not boring|1 VPN Ill post an update in a bit|0 I feel like the USA is in full headinsand mode|1 Indeed cant trust people many are still complacent and will run out of items soon|0 In direct contact with a confirmed case Not everythings a conspiracy|1 This is a case where hospitals only see the local cases and not the global cases They dont have sufficient incentive to research and invest The only entity that is good at this is government Thats why here in Poland the government built more hospitals and is planning for this much better closing all schools etc something private industry cannot do Only evil government has the ability to look at the long term picture and handle a pandemicThis attitude in America where government is evil and every company self regulates is about to kill millions of AmericansGlad I moved from the USA to Poland but I feel sorry for my family in the USA At least I bought them supplies in January|1 This Im really curious|1 He just kinda shrugged it off like oh theyre all healthy|1 Oh he was definitely brutally selfish for a while if he managed to gather enough money to give away at the drop of a hat I appreciate what hes doing but our government shouldnt be fueling the pockets of billionaires Rarely do they actually care|1 Next week on Its Always Sunny The gang kills the city|0 doom and gloom report|0 True But that sample size is tainted with the average age I would think But positive results there might mean more positive results with younger people Still too many unknowns|1 Yeah thats a good point and something to consider But it seems there is always friction between that and doing what is best for the country overall For example if the fed tried to put their foot down and force mass lockdown like China did technically it would go against your personal freedom but itd be the best thing for the country to get past the threat and reduce loss of life|1 Watching porn is wrong Anyways when do you think US is going to get its turn for free premium|1 The people you inform will dismiss you and say you probably just have the flu or a cold Ive already seen this happen A positive test is critical to getting other people to buy in to taking selfquarantine seriously|0 No one forces as game on them They merely didnt want to take it seriously|0 Dude if you dont have a fever you dont have it We cant waste resources on you because you are illinformed Learn about the symptoms vs cold vs regular flu|0 You dont jack up essentials when there is a global pandemic you moron People are actually dying Price gouging is illegal is some states as I can just tell you are an American|0 Unfortunately Im unsure who to correctly attribute it to as Ive read a few different things It may be an Indian Proverb but I honestly am not sure|1 Is this true Can some one else confirm Its a fucking big deal if aerosol transmission is a legit danger|0 The 80 number is floating around because at that number herd immunity kicks in|1 All I keep seeing is tHe MeDia iS tRyINg tO mAKe Us PaNic|0 I was so pissed in 2016 that Bernie got back stabbed by the DNCThis didnt actually happen ftr and was a propaganda piece pushed by Russia even Trump as stupid as he is saw the opportunity and talked about Bernie being a victim and offered to debate him which of course he never came through onClinton was simply vastly vastly more popular with Democratic voters and the party went with the will of the voters They kept bending over backwards to keep giving Bernie more debates etc than a distant 2nd place candidate would get and then they got punished for it The DNC is a small toothless organization which just arranges debates every 4 years they dont do some vast conspiracy of selecting candidates The only evidence of a conspiracy was a leaked email where somebody who worked there said he was unhappy with how Bernie was behaving and splitting up the party vote when he should have dropped out that late in the process Bernie wasnt even a Democrat and proudly says so he was never a real candidate for the Democrat vote it was all just a stuntBernie was behind by millions of votes from day 1 and it was mathematically impossible to win Obama only beat Clinton by 100k votes and everybody was fine with that nobody harped on about how the DNC was evil for not giving their part of the votes to the 2nd place|0 It depends on the strain Immunity actually carries over even if the strain you had before has mutated It doesnt prevent it most times but lessens the symptomsCorona mutates less than the flu Immunity for SARS is said to hold for 35 years|0 Get your hand off it|1 Fair enough|1 Im sorry where is your PHD Are you an accomplished virologist I dont think youre qualified to say anything on this subject Encouraging people to take a deep breath is risky what if they suck up some of the virus|1 Ha ha|1 What about the 2 doctors that died in Wuhan Not oldCEO of one of the Wuhan hospitalsNot old|0 Oh cool TIL Thanks |1 Most of those early videos were not confirmed they were just posted to spread fear|0 Beginning to think that cases on the Diamond Princess didnt spread so quickly just because of the cruise ship environment that is if this indeed came mainly from one individual|1 Media Yeah The press as in journalists Nah they just arent scientistsEdit which means requiring STEM courses in college General Education programs should remain There is a backlash against this at the moment bc art students hate having to take STEM courses Another reason to make college free|1 If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowNo I fully agree I just cant find any other more reliable english language source about this incident and I dont have the links to Chinese telling about the background on twitter and here on reddit anymore|1 NHL will go first Many teams have shut down their arenas already The MLB will try to squeeze out as much revenue as possible before they suspend|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 You are did great I have 2 Draeger respirator masks w full combo filters and next month Im ordering a gas mask Oh are you in the south or in a mountain state Ever heard of Ruby Ridge I lived not far from that are|1 I hope this can calm you a little bit during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic over here in Mexico most cities did the same thing stay at home schools were closed movie theaters restaurants and so on and so on we were inside the house for over a month and during that time only my dad left the house to work when he came back first he took the precautions needed washed his hands threw his mask to the trash before we could get near him to say hiThe first week for me at least was playing videogames but the more days passed we got like you say anxious how long this will go on and that sort of stuffEventually we ended up doing those chores you say you are going to do but never actually do it because it was one of the best things that could keep our minds busy do you have an old box filled with things you say you need to see if you still need before throwing it to the trash Do it a book youve been wanting to read Do itLiterally right now the best thing you can do is to keep busy taking long sleeps and naps is good but if you are simply waiting for this to finish you will get annoyed and anxious|1 They are free of cost so I dont see a failure on that end but there is always room for criticism elsewhere like with that NH hospital worker that attended a social despite being told to self quarantinehttpswwwfactcheckorg202003covid19testsdontcostover3000|1 Remember people under 40 has a 02 chance dying And China sent 30000 doctors and nurses to Wuhan|1 But arent you drawing a conclusion that she was probably not quarantinedIts a hypothetical Im not actually sure this woman really exists so Im not drawing any real conclusions I pointed out at the beginning we are making massive assumptions just by taking the account at its wordBut again if we do take it at its word and combine it with the reports weve been seeing from actual news I dont know how she could have been quarantined despite negative test results The initial symptoms are the same as a bad cold or flu and its winter cold and flu season They already have a bunch of people who tested positive quarantined where would they put every single patient who shows up with cold and flu like symptoms separately for up to 6 days after symptoms developIf they kept on testing her even after the negatives I dont understand why thats probableIf we are going to keep guessing with no information they probably kept testing her even after the negatives because she wasnt testing postive for anything else either and her symptoms werent responding to antibiotics or steroids Thats what we would do here in the US Test try antibiotics or steroids test for more stuff or the same stuff again if they arent getting any better try the next tier of antibiotics or steroids rinse and repeat until patient is better or deadIts possible either way but I dont think theres enough information from that anecdote to assume she was probably not quarantinedIm not assuming the lack of quarantine from the story but from the news and the number of reported infected If my local hospitals were required to quarantine everyone that showed up with flu symptoms this time of year for up to 6 days to be sure despite initially testing negative for coronavirus theyd have to start turning people away in just a few days for lack of space and thats without having any cases already taking up quarantine rooms|0 This is really sad and quite profound Peace|1 I havent seen that clown Prof Whitty in the news walking it back Have youTheyve said its a concept its not the plan Its all to vague from themIts too late after holding a national press conference and saying that 60 infection is desired because herd immunity is what they are trying to achieveThey might be trying to spin it differently nowBut theyve already shown their hand|1 I was at the store yesterday I saw a guy with a small oxygen tank and his helper trying to figure out what to buy|1 It really is a minority that eat exotic wildlife like wolf puppies bats and stuff Dont think most of China cares if they are banned or not|1 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovmpubmed21149215Dated 2010 Not sure what full featured means Also increase unclear if all crtical cases are ventilated I think the lancet study discuss thisEdit you look correctEdit fixed link|0 I am a Chinese I hope Italy will get better soon and I believe our country will try the best to support your guys I will travel to Italy and try the local food and pizzas any recommendations|1 Id talk to the owner of the building He may miss a few months rent but its better than not having a tenant in there for yearsPresent it short term loss is better than longer term loss Also chances are you arent his only tenant in a similar situation|1 Id be in full support of grocery stores closing their doors and moving all orders to online orders That way the employees can stay healthy pack everyones groceries and they just have to bring a cart outside The person picking them up can put them in their own car|1 I didnt trust China when this first came out either but as time has gone on it seems less likely that theyre changing all their numbers Look at cases outside China 700 infected on the Diamond Princess cruise ship and 4 have died Again a high death rate 05 but thats actually even lower than what China has reported Currently in Italy its at a 35 death rate and those were almost all elderly or immunocompromised people already in the hospital|0 Yes because something being legal or illegal is the same as it being ethical or unethical s Governments are perfect and people dont respond to incentives during a crisis yeahAlso your plans will lead to shortages which is exactly keeping people from getting basic necessities Here maybe youll want to gain some perspectivehttpsmisesorgpowermarketpricegouginglifesavingmarketmechanism|1 Looks like the polling stations will be a breeding ground for this virus Better bring your hand sanitizer with you when you vote in the primaries|1 The Misinformation campaign has begun|0 We have experience and we dont trust the government|0 I find this unlikely The index case for the outbreak being reported here HAD his contacts traced If theres an outbreak going on undetected derived from him that means contact tracing failed|0 Please Firstly of the head of the cdc is his appointment Redfield and Azar should take the blame as well but if trump put them in charge which he did its on himNext there were many other things besides testing that trump could have and should have Including preparing hospitals increasing production of medical supplies implementing social distancing None of which he did The buck stops with the president when it comes to the safety of the nation|1 He looks so worried in that picture I had to try to meme ithttpsimgurcoma4VtFdYi|0 I havent seen much in the way of the older than boomers being casual in the same way My 80 90100 year old relatives neighbours etc are laid back about when its their time its their time but they remember life before the mid 1940s Theyve seen stuff|1 Wonder what your boss would think if he or a loved one was a casualty to coronavirus|1 i hate rich snobby new yorkers|0 I can easily take my kids out of school now Just need my wife to agree to it as shell be responsible for them Is this an overreaction|1 January US and Iran on the brink of warFebruary Tensions slowly declineMarch Iran leadership infected with new pandemicApril Bloodless revolution in Iran due to death of 80 of leadership probably|0 You got kids man I get that Im 33 healthy live with a roommate who is also a healthy 33 year old Neither of us ever are around kids or old people Bring the virus to my place where well just feel shitty for a week or 2 and be done with it Keep that shit away from kids and oldies|0 Because Italy started testing before the other countries and is taking it more seriously|0 Lol|1 Differs from school to schoolMy university just announced suspension of oncampus classes tonight and urged all students whos currently away for Spring Break to not come back although they can with a good reason Those who are still on campus can choose to stay here but with limited dining optionsBut I also know students from other universities like Harvard who were forced to move out of their dorms Even including international students who come from countries currently affected by the coronavirus many of these schools have travel bans to the affected countries for the entire school communityThose students are planning to write to the school admins about this Hopefully they can figure something out|1 IM IN TEARS|0 This If we watch actions not words yeah China is acting like its a zombie apocalypse And their actions say its getting worse Way worse|0 Stop talking like medical overwhelm is a given Do you work in a hospital When is the last time youve been in a hospital|0 I cant believe all those CEOs except one were stupid enough to shake his hand or touch the mic at todays conference This could get ugly if Trump is positive|0 If he was an ear nose and threat specialist he certainly could have been but it sounds like he fell ill a week ago now|0 Thats is insane|0 Thank you for the laugh Sorely needed|1 I dont like the implication from this comment that people who do recreational drugs deserve to die|0 I may be spreading misinformation but a coworker told me her sister lives there and the people with the virus were supposed to go to one place but not older people who were past their prime So I dont know It looks like Italy is treating older people|1 Youre on the wrong side of history here This is prime ragedlikemilk material|0 Yes then you get a double whammy Shamed at the front end then asked for your stuff when it hits|0 i dont think services and rent are free on SK|1 because the internetreddit more like isnt the majority|1 I am actually hearing a lot say ts just thr flu|0 I dont think 2 is low|1 About a 15 death rate from the numbers given in the title I believe Not the best at math so please correct me otherwise 6 mortality in Feb for Wuhan according to httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathrate last update given as March 5 Again in this era fact checking is so important Feel like I did my part to double check but its easy to get something even slightly wrong Please dont take what I say as gospel and please correct me if Im wrong so Im not to spread misinformation|1 the hospital complexes in soviet union also had tunnels connecting all buildings This was done so the patients could be taken tofrom buildings meant for testingrecovery without needing to be taken outside especially in bad weather|0 Only now We had a non essential travel ban weeks ago Chicago before the US had any cases Also no travel the China A couple of days ago travel the Italy was banned We were acquired by an international company last year and weve been invited to their other Chicago office for pizza tomorrow trying to figure out how I can say no without my boss losing his shitEDIT only just now realised you has to fly in to NY for your training I just woke up Im not all there yet|0 Wouldnt you need more tanks for more ventilators 10000 tanks for 1 million becomes a issue no Eventually filling the tanks would bottle neck youd need to increase supply and increase rate of fill and delivery|1 I was in no way joking I was just using healthcare jargon Thankfully someone translated it so others could understand|1 the flu shot is not a 100 gurantee but some usually the more expensive kind has more strains in it Its not a single strain in a shot the regular has 4 and the extended has 6 if i remmeber correcty There are many more viruses out there that causes what we refer to as common cold than 6 We just vaccinate for the most common ones|1 I dont think any of the fast food restaurants are going to shut down especially after listening to the presidental address this morning where Trump spoke about making sure fast food drive throughs restauraunt drive throughs and restaurant deliveries are kept open as another source of food income for people who are still healthy enough to work|1 Well Im glad he said it s|1 Easy The young are being discriminated against It can go both ways you know|1 Its more that hospital ICUs and ventilators are already at max capacity Add another flu and all the elderly and immunosuppressed patients to the ICUs and the hospitals become very overwhelmed|0 I know 50 sounds like a big jump but you have to view this relative to the entire numberSay there are 100 cars on the road and each year 2 cars crash But this year there is a 50 jump in crashes Which means this year 3 cars crashIs that astronomical 1 more car Its all relative|0 I went shopping in February and my friend called me panicked I told him shopping after shortages hit would be panic Im taking precaution|0 No kidding Especially when spread is inevitable Everyones just waiting on their leaders to sound the alarm though|0 I think this lady has been sick for weeks and they kept her in isolation because they suspected she was positive but the CDC wouldnt let them test her She was all over the news in Florida begging for a test She was saying that she was with people who had been in China who were ill but not one of them were ever tested either so the CDC was refusing to test any of them because no one was positive I bet they finally gave her a test when they changed the requirementsand she was positive The next probles are a who else did she expose and B the people who gave it to her are out there somewhere and havent been tested|0 No one with type 1 is at fault in literal 100 of cases Its an auto immune disorder Really has very little to do with regular diabetes type 2|0 Yes yes we are|1 I doubt another employee wouldnt take a used mask off an isolation cart outside a room|0 Im shaking right here with you Were all in this together For some weird reason this brings me a sense of comfort No matter what else is going on |0 how is the weather there in Italy is there any chance it will warm up enough soon to slow down the virus|1 Excuse me Have you not seen 12 Monkeys|1 On youtube if a video is live streamed there isnt writted Upload date but Streamed live in how can you be so sure affirming something that isnt|1 Call your elected officials at the state and federal level Demand that they pass mandatory paid sick leave and unemployment coverage for those affected by this Explain that if youre sick youre going to work because you literally have no other option They need to hear from people who are affected by this directly and everyone needs to understand that those without covered sick leave will end up spreading this virus like wildfire|0 Why did he ask for a gun The news here reported a lot of Americans are stocking up on guns why do they need one during a pandemic especially since mass gatherings schools and many other places will be closed and a lot of people will just stay indoors to avoid getting infected|0 This single comment has given me the urge to start a simpsons marathon tonight Thank you|1 I agree and I am 35 and healthy well at least was lets see what happens|1 This is so wrong in times of crisis I dont think their license would realistically be revoked if they actually pull through and show results which is more than they themselves are doing|0 Makes an interesting movie right now you just have to piece it together yourself|1 Odd considering there are only 43 cases total in Thailand|0 I couldnt agree more The fight against this pandemic must be a unified effort Im not sure what telehealth services are offered in my state but Ill look into them as soon as Im able to Thank you for informing me|0 Agree So lets keep our elderly in self quaratine and everyone else can continue living their lives|1 can someone please enlighten me on why the power would be affected in this type of situation at this point serious question|1 Yup living in Shanghai it really isnt that bad I am in Xuhui and pretty much every restaurant in IAPM is open now Went to the Bund on Sunday it was amazing to see with clear skies and no people around Happy that seesaw is open I do think the numbers in Shanghai at least are near accurate I receive my companies health report everyday all employees need to fill it out which is over 1000 people and none of them have caught it yet but a around 5 have been in contact with someone who was infected and have gone into 14 day quarantine straight awayI am more fearful for the money lost for small businesses but thankfy China announced 73 billion dollars today to combat it so hopefully that works|0 Not dead yet but Patient 1 in Italy is a 38 year old marathon runner currently in critical condition Patient one in Washington State is 35 and spent two weeks in ICU before starting to recover|0 What My mom voted for Trump and shes taking this seriously I disagree with her politically about a few things but people arent idiots Most people voted for him because they distrusted the government and media And I do listen to Fox because I listen to everyone to get a rounded view of the situation and many anchors are talking about this Its one of the few stations questioning CCP numbers|0 Im not failing to comprehend anything I agree that in an ideal situation everybody should be wearing them The REALITY is we outsource 80 of our medical supplies The logistics of reconfiguring our supply chain to not only setup for manifacturing and distribution but also gathering the raw materials is incredibly difficult right now Many countries are stopping or severely limiting these materials from being exported Not just for PPE but also the raw materials to create various medical products Recently China said they will start producingmanufacturing again but it has proven to be limited A perfect example is due to the high demand world wide there are shortages of the reagent needed for the test kitsIt has only been the last couple of weeks where we have seen from the federal level take a real change in stance on this Even so that stance has been limitedSo ya bottom line is we dont have enough PPE in this country for our medical staff let alone the general public Should the US have done things differently Yes but the reality is they didnt so how do we move forward Protecting the people who have the medical expertise to take care of the sick is a hell of a lot more important in my eyes The Medical community not having proper protection will be catastrophic Compared to the general public the have a much higher risk of gwtting sick to bwgin with Is it bad that more people in the general publuc will get sick Yes but it will be even more catastrophic if our medical community is|0 She was in the car of the 1st infected of my region Annecy when heshe was symptomatic|0 The problem is what is the alternative tactic for a pandemic novel virus with an expected 13 mortality rate Lockdown for 16weeks|0 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yup Little ones at home so dont want to risk it We created a stepbystep disinfectant plan when entering the house spray soles of shoes before entering keep commute bags in one corner go straight to shower etc to try to minimize the risk We also involved the kids in planning It helps the worry everyone at home is on board and is part of the planning|1 The sign just shows you direction to different divisions The sign in yesterday video reads Chest pain clinichttpsmobiletwittercomTominmedillstatus1220638325112881153 Of course you will see the same sign in different hospitalsYesterdays video has been verifiedhttpsnypostcom20200124coronavirusoutbreakvideoshowsdeadbodiesinhallsofchinahospital by Storyful I guess that means yesterdays video was really recently shot at Wuhan Red Cross Hospital|0 I begged my family to start buying supplies at the end of January After two weeks of trying I gave up My mother texted me yesterday to apologize and tell me I was right Normally I like it when people tell me Im right but I NEVER wanted to be right about this Ive never been a prepper or doomer but it was so obvious China couldnt contain it from the very beginning The virus itself doesnt really scare me with a relatively low death rate for those under 35 crowd but Im terrified of my fellow gun toting Americans during a mass panic andor food shortage I was toldYoure crazy Its only in China My brotherThe flu is worse My RN sister in law AND my doctorChina always has outbreaks Calm down babe my motherlaughing at me as Im filling up the shopping cart at Costco My boyfriend|0 I work in hospitality in the east of england and Im getting serious anxiety as the areas around me become more infected My partners father is on immunosuppressive medication so if I get it and pass it to her and then him I wouldnt be able to forgive myself I have no idea how to approach my work about this|0 Tbh I think its surely too early to tell what the mortality rate is yet anyway The spanish flu came in 3 waves initially it wasnt that deadly and then it was This could be the same or it might not be The scariest thing about pandemics like this initially is that really understanding how dangerous it is can come down to a waiting game|0 Well let me explain something to you that made me feel better My friend was in Singapore about a month ago around thousands of Chinese at casinos hes been all over Thailand and Bali the last month and hes fine I also have a 73 year old friend who flew back from Thailand a few weeks ago he is fine he was also surrounded by Chinese I think we hear about the numbers and infected plus deaths and they seem high but we forgot how many people are on this planet Its not as hectic as this thread makes it out to be and I am saying this for myself because everyday I open this thread and think oh my god its only getting worse but I still think its going to be resolved The US cares about the economy and it also cares about its citizens without us going to work and keeping everything moving everything would collapse|1 What is the Olive Press Have these sources been vetted This seems ridiculous|0 THANK GOD I MASS PURCHASED AND HOARDED CHAINWALLETS BEFORE THEY CLOSED I WILL NOW RESELL THEM ON AMAZON FOR 80 EACH IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME|1 Theres no good timing because this is going to take months even a whole year|1 Ah so even more different than Y Thanks for the clarification|1 Let them think they are immune while the rest of the world shuts all form of travel to and out of the country|1 I was able to find pool chlorine which is just stronger bleach apparently|1 You need government enforced price control along with quantity limitations and rationing Its emergency 101 you have to ration resources to distribute them evenly That is whats been done in ChinaHK And that is what the rest of the world will beshould be doingYou cant allow prices to rise infinitely with demand in these scenarios Your reasoning is not accounting for the millions of people around the world who really need a mask but flat out couldnt afford them for 100 eachbecause they dont have the money for it Esp keep in mind people need multipleYour reasoning also doesnt account for the millionaire guy thousands of miles away from the epicenter buying and hoarding large quantities of maskswhich thereby prevents those in the epicenter from getting them at all regardless of what they would pay Free market does not work for critically scarce life or death products in an emergency plain and simple Supply cannot react fast enough when there are mass shortages of a mass produced item The government needs to intervene to ensure supplies get where theyre needed until supply can catch up|0 Yeah hospitals do a lot of testing as wellI think over 200000 tests conducted in total so far is a pretty safe guesstimation|1 I would like to know this as well A friend of mine who is a major in molecular biology shared that same post and I couldnt believe someone was legitimately that blas about this situation It was especially insulting because I live in Oregon where the states health officer told lawmakers last week its less deadly that the flu so dont bother worrying about it|1 They are claiming a typical 5 months worth of supplies have been burned through in these 6 days of pandemic response|1 No This is heavily skewed by those people who DO have it but havent been tested With the flu people go see their doctor who flags it as such pretty easily so we have a very wide sample and thus a low mortality rate With COVID19 we have every single death in the numerator but the denominator doesnt yet include every person that actually has it because we havent tested I hope this make sense|0 Yeah its super annoying I like this sub but its supposed to be general not US centric Going to be looking elsewhere if it stays like this|1 Its not colleagues be damned for most people Its If I dont go to work then I dont have a place to live next month Also your colleagues are probably sick too|0 This is heartbreaking Ive been wondering how people manage when they cant work in a communist country|0 Now we are bastards because they blame the stock problems on us even though its their faults for not buying sooner and giving stores more time to move stock|0 They have a lot of natural food resources|1 Fellow emetophobe on the subreddit Great to see were all in this together|1 Ironically if there was complete discrimination and blocked all flights from affected areas or put people from affected areas into mandatory quarantine before being allowed into the public it wouldnt be everywhere|0 Can I be that luddite that interjects and asks a questions ud1ndeed how did you take a screen grab of that video Is there a programme that can do that Is there one thats efficient meaning you can compress the vid and the image and sound quality isnt necessarily important Seriously really sorry for all the possibly stupid questions For a long time Id looked around trying to find the answers to this but havent ever found anything other than dubious apps that Id be afraid to recommend to even my worst enemy Back to the subject though thankyou for posting this Family members loved onesfriends many people I know and myself included are in the moderate to high risk Many people I know wont make it out of this I may be one of them Id be happy to go at home I dont want to be left alone though without these dear people I know its going to be difficult for many from the worry and anxiety alone Take good care of yourself and others around you|0 Yes they do obviously not in italy especially in America Ive seen some pretty disturbing things also like that Alfredo sauce Fun fact a normal pizzeria in italy would NEVER give you pineapple pizza|1 Laughs while sitting in Singapore|1 Well honey anyone who spends their Saturday evenings trolling reddit to tell Americans how stupid they are is truly a happy person Anyway people who crap all over us especially with your level of passion and ardor are just jealous theyre not American You are literally a cliche Im sorry you werent born here and have a clear inferiority complex Hope your life gets better|1 Same People who are still eating fast food and at restaurants either have never worked in one or are absolutely fearless|1 China infected the whole world but gloating about how they contained the virus in one province|0 please dont be mislead Wuhan virus is never as mild as flu|0 Maybe the trick to sitting out Covid 19 is to take immunosuppressives|0 I think they dont want you to panic buy masks because they want to reserve them for the health professionals who will need them There is already a global shortageNow the question now is whose life is more important theirs or yours This is a hard question but they know their answer I know my answer and you probably know your answer There is not much more to discuss|0 Why not Just because the drugs were developed to keep people alive longer doesnt mean its less infectious or dangerous|0 Im a triage nurse in Texas and had my director and hospitalist fighting to get a patient tested and still denied Again tonight another patient denied They are still denying anyone without travel history or direct contact with a positive patient|0 Your husband is a hero|1 The cruse ship part is like a Monty Python joke Cruise ships use concurrent air flow systems since theyre cheaper to install run and maintain As soon as one personnel starts shedding viruses itll quickly spread throughout the damn vesselDear lord I thought Japan overtook China in stupidity Now China is emulating and surpassing Japans fuckups Dear God |1 Youre clearly an exception|1 If its there and no one took care it means the death is not processed counted right It seems the official numbers are not showing the reality of the problem|0 I work in molecular diagnostics and genomicsNanopore is a bit of a strange choice for doing CoVid19 testing It has pretty poor resolution for individual nucleotides so may struggle to distinguish CoVid19 from another Coronavirus However it is one of a very few benchtop sequencers that are generally easy to use and can provide data quickly If I had to guess this is likely more about doing research than for diagnostic purposes They could potentially use the long reads generated by nanopore sequencing to help with some expression or proteomics research which would help guide a functional understanding of the virus Im a little out of date on oxfords recent tech so I could be wrong about their baselevel error rate|0 The trouble with requiring is then the people it annoys live long enough to vote you out|0 Definition of close contact is flexible Close contact is defined as a being within approximately 6 feet 2 meters of a COVID19 case for a prolonged period of time close contact can occur while caring for living with visiting or sharing a healthcare waiting area or room with a COVID19 case or b having direct contact with infectious secretions of a COVID19 case eg being coughed on If such contact occurs while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment or PPE eg gowns gloves NIOSHcertified disposable N95 respirator eye protection criteria for PUI consideration are metAddionally they admit uncertainty about what counts as close contact which is IMHO good as it allows people to use judgement about who needs testing Data to inform the definition of close contact are limited Considerations when assessing close contact include the duration of exposure eg longer exposure time likely increases exposure risk and the clinical symptoms of the person with COVID19 eg coughing likely increases exposure risk as does exposure to a severely ill patient Special consideration should be given to healthcare personnel exposed in healthcare settings as described in CDCs Interim US Guidance for Risk Assessment and Public Health Management of Healthcare Personnel with Potential Exposure in a Healthcare Setting to Patients with COVID19The critera for affected areas Affected areas are defined as geographic regions where sustained community transmission has been identified Relevant affected areas will be defined as a country with at least a CDC Level 2 Travel Health Notice|0 Technology too Most EU head offices are in ireland Plus all of apples money comes through here as well|1 Confirmed cases are limited by the amount of testing not actually spreading of the virus|0 The problem here is that now people know for fact that the govt is willing to lie to sway us to do what they want|0 Yeah sorry about the mistakes as you can guess english isnt my first language I meant they refused to do it and by tampon I meant testingThanks for the correction|0 Ok I was confused about that part of your story So this didnt take place inside an ER How confusing Thats pretty messed up And this is why so many cases will go undiagnosed because nobody can afford the healthcare Well than and theres basically no tests available Theres less than 100 in my state|0 Its cause I dont want to get stuck cause of some quarantine or random bs No one knows whats gonna happen Overnight this virus could tank Canada and now Im stuck Have work 4 days a week cant let that happen to me|0 Oh no little buggers Imagine rows upon rows of little proboscises hanging in silenceWhat a monster that Gates guy is To be willing to cause so much despair that is|0 Also wondering if you had any fever I have had a nasty cough for a week was really hard to breath for 2 days before I got a prescription for an inhaler I had no fever but am wondering if it is maybe a possibility to get this with no fever|0 Everyone in the world will have been exposed in about 11 weeks time so it cant last much longer than that unless it mutates and has a second global wave|0 Quick tip remove jewellery too trim hair short shave at a safe place to allow microlacerations caused by razor to heal|1 The Common cold is a type of coronavirus and is spread H2H So this virus would be expected to act accordingly too I think the big deal here is that its the 1st known in the US and does actually kill people|0 LOL dont need to tell me twice I live in Australia and my hometown looked like Mordor for about a month due to the bushfires|1 You might want to tell that to my taxi driver in Beijing who was watching porn whilst zipping through traffic I was amazed and terrified the whole time|0 So his caregivers probably werent wearing any protective gear And have been treating people for a week Not great|0 You treat Cv like the fluMakes you new in my eyesGive you more time and you will not take it so lightly|1 THE ONE TRUE MIKE|1 Couldnt sleep heard we were having a riot BC guy|0 Its an annoying trend that the coastal states with big cities basically write off the rest of the country literally calling them fly over statessuper elitist imo|0 Early and limited data of course but Ill take some good news for a change Please stay mild in our kids please|1 I think the CDC has stopped releasing figures about tests administered because who knows Either want to hide the number or not competent enough to keep trackI think in Georgia where we have 5 confirmed and 6 presumptive cases theyve tested 5060 people |0 Punishment should fit the crime Have him help out the extremely overworked doctors and nurses in whichever health care facility needs help the most at the moment He wont even need to use up one of the precious few face masks or other PPE he can just take his Metal Pills Theres a real special place in hell for this piece of shit|1 So true and unfortunate I honestly think it would be more help than harm for HC workers once this all ends|1 Im sorry but this is satire The tweets from the police departments are sarcastic|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Its the entire government providing censorship not just your least favorite party|1 After all that Terrible Id imagine|0 Indonesia is trying to pray it away and Singapore and Vietnam have been moving heaven and earth to keep it in check|1 Sadly cant see any form of restrictions happening until it is staring the majority of the public in the face which will be too late|0 Very stable genius saidWe have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by you know sitting around or even going to work some of them go to workCDC saysEmployees who have symptoms of acute respiratory illness are recommended to stay home and not come to work until they are free of fever 1004 F 378 C or greater using an oral thermometer signs of a fever and any other symptoms for at least 24 hours without the use of feverreducing or other symptomaltering medicinesIs there room for interpretation YupWas it ambiguous YupShould he have clarified YupDid he NopeI love it when my leaders speak with a unified unambiguous simple voice I wish it happened more oftenEdited for format and forgetfulness|1 One of the studies tested vacuum cleaner bags with pretty good results|1 I feel like some ppl are digging their heals in and being hard headed Thank you for laying out some common sense Amen|1 Yep theres a great deal of idiocy out there A common one I hear is aye but its only old folks and ill people that need to worry Ill be fine Ill just push through Unlike my immunosuppressive chemotherapyreceiving mother which it will kill Pricks|0 Hard to tell how this might be driven Is it contact with the market Other comorbidities more likely in men Will be interesting to see how this might change with timeEdit According to thishttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001316 new NEJM paper the sex balance is 56 male So apparently not|1 Logically they wont work the instant youre infected If you breathe in 20 virions and swab one second later theyre almost certainly not going to find thatBut studies suggest that for HIV a PCR test at 24 hours after infection would have 95 sensitivity 5 false negative and 97 specificity 3 false positiveSo it doesnt take all that long for a virus to multiply enough to be detectableI suspect the real problem here is where the virus likes to live HIV infects thelper cells which hang out in the blood nCov likes the lower respiratory system Much harder to get a lung sample than a blood sample Theyre using nasopharyngeal and throat swabs but its been known all along that upper respiratory tract samples might falsely test negative Its in WHOs lab guidelines dated 171 But blood tests are worse if you look at some of the clinical studies very few have detectable virus in their blood They will eventually have antibodies in their blood but not until their immune system has started to fight it off so no good for early detection|0 Is this a good burger reference|1 So being a Trump supporter how do you feel about the administrations response to this crisis And I have a few guesses as to what hospital you work for based on this so be careful this thing is going to bring the nutcases out of the woodwork All I needed was this sentence to narrow it down covering major metro area outside NYC in a hospital with over 800 beds|0 Cruise tourists tend to be funneled into partner businesses anyway so the profits dont exactly benefit a great range of people Where I live locals constantly complain about the cruise industry|0 I for one am shocked SHOCKED Who could have predicted this Clearly no one Oh wai|0 I dont even understand what your talking about They are exiting people from the boat as we speak Anyone who tests negative is free to come into Yokohama Japan now so hes leaving shortly after the Americans evacuated and hes not riding on a plane full of sick people What a complete and utter shit show|0 This virus is really revealing the true heart and soul of every country out there isnt it|1 What I dont quite get is that it only directly talks about IFR deaths and excess deaths due to lack of ICUs Surely there is another knock on effect from lack of hospitalisation a huge number of cases require hospitalisation but wont become critical If that hospitalisation is not available because of lack of resource due to the huge numbers then surely a lot of these cases will develop and become critical leading to much larger death figures Is my thinking wrong|0 Yes but likely more than in other developed nations because of religious fanatics|1 I feel like I need to buy some plywood and a gun now havent used one since I was a teenager Enough people arent well off aware or housed enough to have stores of food and may target single family homes My wife has been ok with the meds and 100 of ricebeans I purchased last week but a gun is like going off the proverbial deep end Always told myself Id get one after aquiring a safe first|1 Rapes and apparently The Blessers Cursehttpswwwtheatlanticcomhealtharchive201803theblesserscurse555950|0 No population wise O is in huge number so more number In reality its quite less Think 87 wuhan people are O|1 given the lack of containment strategies practiced in the US and the editorially scandalous lack of widespread testing to track chains of contact and clusters how do you predict US infection and death rates will compare to chinas when all is said and done what resources or assumptions do you use to make this predictionwhat should people in known epicenters like WA state be doing do you think public health agencies are being cautious enough communicating clearly enough where else should we assume the virus is widespread|0 In China you get shamed for NOT wearing one Its a requirement I dont understand why other countries arent doing the same|0 So this means that she self reported as they only test people coming from China This also means that she was walking around BC for some time being infectious Great |1 I think the number of cases is higher testing is biased to patients in critical condition|0 I hope NYC doesnt get infected because many people in my area commute there for work and will bring it back to my area These people could be on fire and would still go to work so I doubt the threat of a virus will deter them|0 My job says no|0 You cant take that to extremes though Barking at the moon might prevent someone from catching the virus Should we all bark at the moon tonightIf theres a scientific paper or least a common sense rational that explains why street transmission is a real threat bring it on Until then Im going to point and laugh at thisIm in WA Im working from home for the next month and limiting contact I am definitely taking this seriously but Im not ready to start doing things that seem patently ridiculous just on the off chance they might in some way make things better|1 What are we doing Shut the tristate area down We waited too long We 100 waited too long This is going to be horrific|0 ACE 2 theory debunked lots of cases is less severe compare to those in china and they are mostly eastern populations|0 hypocrite he said he wouldnt close the borders but he cancels his rally|0 Hard to turn wrenches from home unfortunately working from home wont be an option but i do appreciate it|1 As long as it doesnt warm your body youre good |1 That makes sense maybe a bit less infected since the lack of infrastructure and lifestyle differences are probably driving the fatality rate up|0 Vaccine is at best 18months away Too risky to release anything sooner due to possible severe or lethal unexpected side effects Actual tests on humans are being done now A highly effective treatment is much more likely It looks like some existing drugs are showing theyre highly effective If an agreement is reached thats the way to go theyll just need to mass produce them enough|1 Except the SS United States was built specifically so it could be quickly converted over to a hospital shipThats why the Navy footed 23s of the priceRefitting an existing cruise ship into a hospital ship isnt a quick process either they dont meet the stricter fire standards|1 x200BHeres the 5 year reference study httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5788356httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5788356 we collected totally 13048 throat and nasal swab specimens from adults and children with fever and acute upper respiratory infection symptoms in Gunazhou south China between July 2010 and June 2015 HCoV was detected in 294 cases 225 of the 13048 samples with most of them inpatients 251 cases 854 of HCoV positive cases and young children not in nursery 5306 156 out of 294 HCoV positive cases Four HCoVs as OC43 229E NL63 and HKU1 were detected prevalent during 20102015 in Guangzhou and among the HCoV positive cases 6020 were OC43 1667 were 229E 1497 were NL63 and 782 were HKU1TLDR 5 years 13048 samples 43 outpatient 251 inpatient 295 cases positive for 4 strains 156294 were children other half adultsThats 31 childrenyear infected with one of 4 strains of HCoVs before outbreak18 children having OC43yr in Guangzhousays something is not rightEditLook at left orange bar in the bar chart It is NOT the number of children with OC43IT IS the TOTAL number of INPATIENTS IN ALL AGE GROUPS with ALL 4 HCoVs The bar chart is wrongThe hypothesis is exciting but this study does NOT support a remarkable age difference of what it claims|0 Lol no doubt Thanks for the breakdown|1 They sure did do a lot of China buttkissing in that speech WTH I dont think anyone was blaming China so not sure what that was all about Glad for the declaration|0 100 Guarantee there are people working for cash in tier 2 cities Not seeing them doesnt mean they dont exist|1 Yes Thank you for your answer I did a search that produced far better results and found that this is completely correct They are the same compound httpschemistrystackexchangecomquestions13743isthereanydifferencebetweenglycerinandglycerol I deeply appreciate receiving help with my question thank you so much today Stay healthy and safe in your home country|1 We dont honestly know if it has or not China can report or lie based on what they know but there can be thousands of unreported cases still There is not enough data on the virus Nor do we know if infected once what the odds are of reinfection Looking at the way the virus is spreading globally it is hard to believe that it is actually slowing down in China lock downs or not|0 It would be nice but probably impossible right now to figure out why they tested negative a few days ago It seems like it ought to be possible to figure out how long ago any particular person contracted the virus based on the presencecount of something that could be detected with a sampleIs that something that medical professionals are able to do with other 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Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Unfortunately this is only beginning Would be good if medical staff leakes images how it looks like so other governments can be shocked by rapid situation escalation and do something proactivelyIn my country we have only handfull of cases but many hidden spreaders and people coming back from ski trips in Italyx200BStay safeBe positive|1 There are lots of incidents that involve a wet cough It seems to start wet for some patients and develop into a dry one later The problem is that there arent a lot of universals in the symptoms Almost nothing is absolutely going to be there for COVID19|0 And just to clarify this is one of the small towns that went into lock down like two weeks before the entire country did So the situation in the whole of Italy is in no way resolved|1 Sorry for the outburst|0 Ignore this comment folks I said something very sillyx200BVery silly indeed|0 Erm Nope Not by forceI back my opinions up with factual evidence which is freely available all over the Internet if people decide to look for it|1 Yikes thats a heavily populated urban county Thats not good|0 You mean they are there just to cook burgers for the Happy meals CCP is gonna deliver to all the people it has welded in their own homes|1 Oh my fucking god this is worse than the advice my school is following on our potential case|0 He wont go no insurance Thanks anyways|1 httpswwwthelancetcomjournalslaninfarticlePIIS1473309920301298fulltextThis might interest you|1 This is the critical care unit in one hospital in Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital and apparently they have 7 patients in there which seems to fit the official numbers on the 20th of January there were 51 severe and 12 critical cases Not sure how it fits in with the unofficial stories of other hospitals turning patients away but this is one of the specialised care wards|1 thank you|1 Good idea children are feeling the stress of others and the changes going on that are upsetting their lives too Even if they are too young to know what is wrong it is scary for them Kudos to Disney|0 Paid leave also applies to pizza hut and KFC still a lot of people are getting paid Not many min wage employees are getting this|0 By far India doing the best with 15 billion people and high population density|1 Maybe the HIV gene helps them adapt|1 Yes yes Reported you moron|1 I dont know Just that his symptom before death wasnt like that of a covid patientCould be preexisting conditions exacerbated by coronavirus or perhaps damaged liverkidney by excessive traditional Chinese medicine that he took|0 I live in an apartment building in Koreatown Im super worried this is exactly how I contract the disease|1 Curious about the caveat of not just pneumonia but pneumonia requiring hospitalizationMy son came home with a cold and recovered fairly easily but a week or 2 later I had a minor cough and fatigue and wound up have a pneumonia diagnosed by xray and Epsteinbar IGM equivocal with pre existing Epsteinbar IGG I did NOT require hospitalization I do have several AI disease and usually get hit harder than my kids with illnesses they bring homeIts been about 2 weeks and I went on 2 rounds of antibiotics and while I am still very fatigued and having difficulty resting my cough and chest symptoms have improved notably but not completelyhad a random bad day on Saturday but better now I also have slowly improving low grade fevers later in the day eveningWondering if I would have been tested since I wasnt hospitalized I do not meet any of the other exposure criteria|1 In Canada we wont even tell you which part of the city For fear of privacyWere so screwed |0 Certainly the best thing for human survivability would have been to put a bullet in the head of every resident of Wuhan the moment we heard of this virus but we didnt as that seems extremeIf this virus would be an existencial threat yes It doesnt look like that at all With the current stats just very roughly You would have killed 11 million people in Wuhan of all ages thus with a huge number of lost lifetime years If this spreads all over the world 40000000006000000000 people would get infected which is a high estimate and the CFR is on the same level like we see it outside Wuhan now it would just kill 412 million people probably excess deaths etc and those would on average lose much fewer years because it would mostly be elderly people and people with preconditions|0 Ugh exactly where Im at with my Mom|0 I would hope that any Urgent Care facility would be able to issue the note so that there is no need to already have a PCP|1 5 deaths outside mainland ChinaPhilippines Hong Kong France Japan and Taiwan5 deaths 500 infected 1 CFRAssuming 25 Discovery rate 5 500 4 But mean time of death after first symptoms is 21 days x 5 500 4 x 00025 real CFR|0 My local municipality in Wisconsin is remaining open Im livid I have a 6 and 4 year old in 4K and 5K|0 Yes I watched it when it came out I enjoyed the humor on reddit about 36 thats not great but not that bad either And then you find out every reading meter is limited by that top readingSame thing seems to be the case in China If you can only crank out 2000 testing kits a day that caps the number of new infections that you can report as having tested positive If they had 100000 testing kits to use each day I wonder what the numbers would look like then|1 Well duh Michaels sent an email last night postnational emergency announcement with the subjectYou need boredom busters We got emMeh The retail and service industries are big drivers of the US economy now so these companies are scared|0 Good proactive measure I wonder how much grace the landlords will give their tenants|1 It is not 100 true if it is happening in other places in Canada Just because your area doesnt have their shit together doesnt mean it represents the rest of the country Despite what they may have told you Ontario is not all of Canada|1 man i havent actually bothered to hear him speak in months and jesus what a fucking idiot|0 At first I thought man maybe those Chinese fastbuilt hospitals were built a little too fast But this actually was a hotel that was converted to a hospital Super sucks|1 Were not doing a bad job of containing it were doing a good job of spreading it Like our government is making decisions that actively worsen the situation|1 Id agree But for slightly different reasons One of the most popular posts on this sub every day is consistently whats your prediction for how many cases of sick people do you think well have today I better 200 People say they arent reveling in this but they are Maybe they dont want to suffer and can recognise and articulate it but like being on the pulse of something they think should be bigger news|1 I think a lot of people are in the same boat Everybody is fucking freaking out but quietly Last time I went to Costco I brought mask and gloves and it took me a good 5 minutes to kinda get the courage to put that on I went back and forth a couple times but here a few thing that I said to myself which I think mattered the mostx200B If I get it I would be so fucking angry with myself because I feel ashamed I know for a fact that masks help Its my health and I have to what I believe is right Mask shaming will end when more people start to wear it So by wearing a mask not only Im doing what I believe is right Im also setting the right example and maybe helping other fellows to be more courageous After that I said fuck it and put it on Got used to it after like 10 people have seen me and that was it|1 My point was that the fatality rate has nothing to do with the infection rate The important numbers are the recovery rate vs the death rate which are two sides of the same coin I know full well that we dont have good numbers yet especially for the recovery rate And know that the 60 is too high Mainly because it takes longer to recover and get designated as a recovery than it does to die To a lesser degree due to the small sample size The time it takes to recover can also mean it can take longer to start getting numbers closer to reality The total fatalities compared to total infection rate is meaningless at almost any sample size because infection rates are a moving target But thats what the headlines imply is most important|0 Great Now just make it|1 Ive noticed this locally as well Please make taking good care of yourself a priority in the coming weeks and months as this virus progresses we need our healthcare professionals and we deeply appreciate your hard work|1 And then got over it everyone will be going back to work sick and itll be its just like a cold all over again Pandemic cured|0 I find it sadly ironic Trudeau has been claiming stopping flights is a knee jerk reaction His wife takes a completely unnecessary flight Contracts Covid19 and the likely spreads it to our PM during the worst crisis since WW2 Now our leader is locked in a bedroom when we need leadership most Maybe the bright side is he will actually wake up and take it serious that it affects him|0 I understand and its more of a philosophical thing We like to say we are the best country on earth fucking act like it|1 Im lucky that despite all odds and sense it is mandatory in the state of of all places Arizona that all employers offer up to 40 hours of sick time Of course this is Arizona so the hoops you have to go through are absurdx200B1 You get 1 hour for every 30 hours worked That means you need to work 1200 hours to get 40 hours Comes out to fifty days Most McDonalds Ive worked at dont give you a full 40 hours because if they do youre full time So GL getting that 30 hours worked2 You can only accumulate 40 hours or less depending on how many people are in your company After you hit the cap too damn bad3 You can only use up to your cap a year So even if you earn more and get sick again if youve used 40 hours thats just too damn bad for you4 You still need some kind of doctors note Which costs money to get thus burning through the sick pay you were already going to get|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 yeah sure let us blame doctors who effectively save lives|1 This is my though on why some of these studies report results that contradict or outlier eventsHouseholds with children maybe skewing the results SARSCoV mice testing has shown that the virus clearing is highly dependent on immune response In fact this has been a testing problem going back years from SarCoV because you need older mice to actually see the effects of the diseasehttpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat0030005httpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat0030005Young inbred mice support SARScoronavirus SARSCoV replication in the respiratory tract and are available in sufficient numbers for statistical evaluation They are relatively inexpensive and easily accessible but their use in SARS research is limited because they do not develop illness following infection Older 12 to 14moold BALBc mice develop clinical illness and pneumonitisWith younger mice clearing the virus much quicker or not even developing symptoms All the case data shows that children are highly under represented and or have very mild cases with very quick recoveries Children are know to be primary transmission vectors Its probably that children are infected first clear the virus and report negative with mild symptoms Children are not any less immune than the parents but their immune response By the time the parent is hospitalized they contact trace they find the child is not infected Children are likely to only infect parents as they are not out about So you get the perception of low R0 when in fact the household is infectedWithout antibody tracing you do not have a complete pictureEither way what this study shows it that quarantine and Isolation works and the longer Governments delay implementing this tools the larger the problem growsActually thinking it through all they need to do is shutdown schools|0 Bloody Yankees|0 It is not killing everyone You need to take some time off all social media and news Take a breath|1 Im just worried about the possible aftereffects the virus could have on the bodies of those who survive it|0 Sometimes I wake up and think thank fuck Im not an american|0 Intellectual property laws give an incentive to research new technology if the tech is immediately available to be produced by anyone that incentive goesThats how its supposed to work in theory but in practice we also see patent trolls and any number of monopolistic practices that impede companies especially smaller ones without the resources to retain an army of lawyers from innovating There are alternative models like prize competitions and health impact funds that would better align economic incentives with social good|1 Right but Im just saying even if a lot of people in that middle age group are infected if they properly quarantine themselves and get treatment then they will run its course and thatll be the end of it|0 The destruction of local ecosystem is debatable and is geographically dependantI am very much a fan of nuclear and wish we built more third gen reactors Also build the breeder reactors and process the waste tooSolar is not great but it isnt actively harmful Its just expensive if you account for all subsidiesYou are of course correct that the oil price crash will hit them hard but the saudis gota wage thier war with the russians|0 Even if you test positive doesnt mean you will need intensive care Also anyone who has had to deal with the medical system knows YOU are your best advocate and you have the option to find a different hospitaldoctor for a second opinion httpswwwgooglecomampsthehillcompolicytransportationtsa486962threetsaemployeesincaliforniatestpositiveforcoronavirus3fampThree employees with the Transportation Security Administration TSA in California tested positive for the coronavirus the agency confirmed Tuesday The employees who work at Mineta San Jose International Airport in Santa Clara County and all other workers they came in contact with over the past two weeks are quarantined at homeThree employees with the Transportation Security Administration TSA in California tested positive for the coronavirus the agency confirmed Tuesday The employees who work at Mineta San Jose International Airport in Santa Clara County and all other workers they came in contact with over the past two weeks are quarantined at home|1 Not in Alberta If you cant pay rent you get a nice eviction notice have 14 days to pay everything thats due and if you cant pay it you have to leave|1 As a San Diego native dont worry and enjoy the area Check out Balboa Park the Zoo Coronado Sunset cliffs La Jolla and if you got a rental car I would highly suggest the town of Julian its a small town with world famous pieEdit Old Town San Diego as well|1 They didnt practice the basic personal hygiene we must do here Learn from them do not panic just keep away from crowds avoid close contact with people not in your household and do not visit the elderly if you are sick Stay home if you are sick|0 Same Work kind of wanted me back in today but I cant morally travel on my three trains and back into an office who might be infected much more intensely by my mild symptoms I called 111 on works instructions yesterday and the lovely operator said because I didnt meet the criteria I was probably ok to go back to work BUT that I should go to a walkin because my answers indicated I was in danger of something else I think pulmonary embolism I refused to do this just in case I do have mild symptoms of Covid19 A lovely doctor then called me 5 hours later and stressed that under CURRENT guidelines I wasnt suitable for a test but should go see a doctor about my symptoms I refused again but said Id go if my symptoms worsened to which she asked that I call and say I was doing so because someone would meet me in full PPE if this was the caseI imagine theyll update the criteria soon but it is leaving people in a place where theyre essentially being encouraged to make silly decisions and put colleaguesother people at risk Im operating under the criteria that if I wouldnt see my Nan at the moment Im not seeing anyone else if you can call an 8 day headache and a constant feeling of breathlessness mild|0 They reported it on 123119 to the WHO httpsenwikipediaorgwiki2019E2809320coronavirusoutbreakMainlandChina A public notice on the outbreak was released 30 days later by Wuhan health authority on 31 December 2019 WHO was informed of the outbreak on the same day|1 Was going to post similar Yanks usually assume that the Dutch are all stoned most of the time Completely the opposite in my experience Weed tourists and resident foreigners cause the bad rep|0 Singapore At the link provided the IMF 2019 data indicates 3rd 2018 data World Bank also 3rdThank You for playing|1 Heres the thing It doesnt honestly feel like this WILL get under control And even if the disease eventually has a vaccine in a year or two the economy is fucked Its done Im not at that fuck it point yet but I can understand why people are|0 I have 20 dollar co pays for about any service that I receive medically Im 29 and havent been on my parents insurance since I was 18its really not that bad if you actually focus on getting a decent job instead of crying about it and acting entitled in life like most people my age and younger do|1 Yes I have anxiety But Im also a planner and jumped into action as soon as hit the news You cant always predict what someones going to say or do but you can do lots of cooking therapy while freezing the results prep for future meals and make sure your people will be ok I also tend to have a clear and level head during an emergency despite the fact Ill often stress myself sick over something as little as talking to the neighbors|0 Im in aus we are in autumn going into winter and Im worried|0 What would you rather have a CDC pandemic response team or a big beautiful Wall|1 Especially when you constantly see Charmin commercials Like really guys Thanks|1 The point is to stop the spread while identifying those infected so the 14 days gives the time for everyone infected to show symptoms Then they can be actually quarantined and those non infected can begin to get back to normal|0 Stop apologizing for genocide shill|0 For sure man Psn and activisionis the same as my username and|1 Youre an idiot I am NOT arguing that I said that there is no evidence I can find The following is literally what you said People arent idiots because you have difficulty expressing what you mean in English that knowing how to wear them creates a statistical difference in infection rates I get it Youre one of those instant internet scientists skimming Google Im sure you saw thishttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4868605 because its at the top of a really simple Google search Now suddenly think you understand the entire body of literature the difference between a meta study and other forms of analysis in determining proper clinical procedures etc Did you read past the abstract The section on limitation The difference between the meta analysis they did and the surrogate exposure studies they identified Did you see they also noted the importance of eye protection gowns and gloves These scientists would be aghast at anybody deriving absolute clinical advice from this paper So when NIOSH tells you Myth Respirators and surgical masks provide the same type and level of protection for the userhttpswwwcdcgovnioshdocswpsolutions2016109pdfs2016109pdfid1026616NIOSHPUB2016109 you arent listening because you saw an article You dont bother to read stuff like thishttpsblogscdcgovnioshscienceblog20091014n95 or thishttpswwwoshagovSLTCrespiratoryprotectionindexhtml or the absolute metric fuckton of information the CDC has put out therehttpswwwcdcgovnioshnpptltopicsrespiratorsdisppartrespsource3healthcarehtml because having read one article you want an exact statistical refutation because thats how reddit argues Thats not how science works|0 Nonpartisan response Capitalism They wont get built unless someone is paying for it The government would have to step in and mandate that Even if this happened I suspect our building codes and ethics state side are much less lax than Chinas Everything has to get designed and then stamped by an Engineer who has the same code of ethics as any medical professional something most people arent aware of|0 We should lie like every other countrieswith those numbers and problems italian economy will fall apart better doing like France and Germany|1 My country just declared a state of emergency Im actually relieved after all this anticipation its finally happening Im sitting pretty on 2 months of supplies which Ive quietly stocked up over the past few weeks Yesterday supermarkets were raided by panicky masses Preppers are so funny right Until suddenly they arent|1 Wouldnt they also lose a lot of Tories|1 At UNC at least all the proffesors have had over a months notice to start putting classes online and Ive heard similar things about CSU but I cant personally confirm that like I can for UNC Id imagine that DU and CU also have been prepping|1 They should be forced to do community service cleaning bedpans in one of the COVID hospitals They will learn Really quickly Like within the first 2 patients if they have any brains at all|0 From what I have seen that is how most other governments are reporting numbers Numerous countries have said that no reports from the field are allowed but must be vetted first by the government|0 I think theyre saying its worse than negligence its willful|0 Trump just blocked medicaid from being used on Coronavirus tests Something tells me tests will not ever be available in the US for any less than the absurd 24 thousand dollars theyre already going for|0 Yep I cant imagine its anything but considering what we know about the supply chain and people not buying|1 This is amazing Good job guys|1 Bruhhh how does it late December when this wasnt even a problem until a a month ago|1 I think most of the world does not truly understand the severity of this epidemic Reading info from nonmedia groups has been helpful and I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers|1 The virus also sticks around on surfaces for up to 96 hours Ive heard So you can wash your hands all you want it doesnt matter you probably touch hundreds of different surfaces every day|1 The good old bacon analogy The bacon just got put on the pan South Korea is not landlocked with China Italy is not landlocked with china Iran is not landlocked with china Japan is not landlocked with china For now What makes you think anything different is going to happen here|1 No its to one person in charge of those 22k people|0 We will have to watch for this hopefully it does not happen but if it happens somewhere we may look to Georgia for this type of stuff first|1 Are you in Turkey I think there will be nobody tested positive ever|1 It was containable We saw actions undertaken in China South Korea Singapore Hong Kong Taiwan etc that severely limited community spread Singapore has had active community cases for the past three months but never saw the exponential growth we see in Europe If we had pressured governments to trace and track like these East Asian governments then coronavirus wouldnt be such an issue|1 Its all about the money I can only assume they are trying to make it to the Easter holidays before they close stuff so it costs them less They wont make it|1 And miss the chance to go kill that neighbor or boss you hate after theyve been zombified Like hell Im missing out on that |0 Is your implication that the CDC like isnt trying A conspiracy that they want us to get sick|1 seven20p your reminder arrives in 10 months on 20210106 000000Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20210106 000000Zreminderidf1399b0d151446528338c45b59e819absubredditChinaFlu rChinaFlu Headofcdcregardingcovid19intheunitedrChinaFlucommentsf3mqfqheadofcdcregardingcovid19intheunitedfjn37ufcontext3 Minion 0CLICK THIS 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host services online even A laptop with a webcam and mic just fuckin stream it|1 Wow theyre really still running that enormous WISCO steel millEdit nvm just saw your other reply Thanks for clarifying TIL|1 Probably because they might need more than one kit per person That and like someone else said even if this all blows over in the next week and its nothing theyre still going to want to have plenty of kits on hand for people testing to see if they have symptomsthe coronavirus rather than dusting their hands off and being like And the world is now at peace completely and utterly All doctors get the rest of the year offAlso on top of that its always better to overproduce within reason than to underproduce They needed kits really bad early on had none so this seems like a response to that shortageAnd then of course theres the very real possibility that its worse than theyre reporting very likely so they need more kits on top of the other reasons|1 Patient 31 needs to be punishedShe caused so much trouble for everyone because she refused to get tested|0 This announcment is not meant for schools LMAO|1 good for you|1 I am freaking out bc I dont get paid until next week so I cannot prep more then I already haveI have about I guess a week or two of food and some sanitizing stuff|0 There are at least 2 strains i think theres likely quite a few by now|0 Totally agree My new worry is that people keep saying everything will be back to normal in a month or 2 Im like no not unless theres a miracle cure or vaccine Theres acceptance that Covid19 is a real problem but no realistic futurethinking to go with it I have been showing my spouse charts that show US is going to get worse This will be a long road ahead|0 Arm yourself Take advantage of the second amendment and defend your family|1 Yes but it would be a lot harder Patient 0 most likely got it by eating an infected bat though there are conspiracy theories about bioweapons that even the Chinese government is making up now People are catching the coronavirus from each other all the time now but we managed to go decades before someone caught it by eating an infected bat and if China manages to impose food safety regulations even that wont be an issue again|0 The difference is he cant collect unemployment now |1 I would have done the same Not going to risk my kids life|1 Yes they can test it in Finland All of suspected cases in Finalnd are sent to Helsinki and they will test it there|1 Specific measures are still up to countries states and municipalities but WHO advice informs their choices But yes NPIs start to kick in NonPharmaceutical Interventions including social distancing closed schools cancelled events travel restrictions and perhaps most importantly public acknowledgement that this is a grave concern that could effect everyone We stop talking about it like its something that might happen and start talking about whats actually happening These are the escalating measures that the CDC has been subtly foreboding for some time now httpswwwcdcgovnonpharmaceuticalinterventionscommunityindexhtml|1 Definitely I think we might have some air travel restrictions by the end of the week Hopefully some concrete restrictions about public gatherings and places of leisure Im hopefuly but who knows|1 Let me introduce you to the man at the top|1 Gotta love sensationalism Keep up the good reporting|1 After the numbers go exponential people wont mindI was just looking at Live Nations profit line on a website just dropped pretty hard in the last month|1 Isnt even a month of rent where I live It would help dont get me wrong but it isnt some saving angel|1 They can still fire you and so long as they dont say its not for any specific reason other than job performance the employer doesnt really have to fear legal repurcussion|0 Water fast literally water only for five days and then start eating againYou will replenish over 30 of your immune system cells Itll take out the oldbroken cells and replace them with brand new ones you make as you start eating againAny cheating resets that clock back to zero so make sure u can stick with it If you get low blood pressure on days 45 you probably need a bit of salt I put himiliyan pink salt on a table spoon and just eat it some people put it in water which is nasty but if they can drink it then fair enough|0 I remember somebody parked across a few parking spaces to take a picture of his car at what was clearly very early in the morning and people were calling to slash his tires and key the car because one of the parking spaces was a disabled parking space and he dared to put his car there for the 2 minutes it took to take the pictureReddits full of these people|1 How would you recommend we abolish the electoral college That has to go through the government who likes the electoral college and wont let a bill disbanding it pass While we elect government officials we only get to choose from candidates that are presented to us Those who are presented are supported by those already in power When we do get people in the government who say theyll change things we know it isnt likely to actually happen because they have to get everyone else in power to agree to let the laws pass Unless someone dismantles the current system nothing here is going to change Our voting is relegated to the illusion of choice the government has too many differing opinions to make any actual progress one way or another and the vast majority of us are just trying to make the best of the system weve inherited The people have no power unless we all band together and overthrow the government but thats impractical in a nation this size thats incredibly divided and whos majority relies on the relative stability maintaining the status quo provides|1 LookChina hid evidence of the virus from November to January It was only in late January when China was quarantining its citizens that public health officials in the United States became aware and were able to request information China refused entry to American scientists or to share much medical data about the virus through early February It really wasnt until March 1 that we started getting all the virus samples and our scientific and commercial industries started getting into gear to fight the virus A huge amount of money is being put into getting that going as fast as possible Unfortunately late January was Chinas New Year and millions of people from around the world traveled back and forth to China to celebrate frequently stopping at American airports Chinese Americans on the coasts especially were involved in travel The USA began evacuating its citizens from China in early February and Americans have been returning from infected areas Italy in March The CDC is used for fast response to small outbreaks statistics collection and keeping genius talent in the USA Itis more of a startup research business rather than the great savior big government dreamers desire The CDC doesnt have any massive testing or production facilities of its own States according to plans written up decades ago are supposed to provide the testing facilities and emergency supplies rather than the CDC but they neglected stockpiles and one of the key ingredients needed by labs for test was in a worldwide short supply None of the governors wanted to publicize this so they bang on big daddy Federal Government to save them The President waived any regulations holding back the governors from coming up with their own tests or activating additional labs He provided substantial additional funding and covered for the governorsAmerican hospitals get overwhelmed with regular flu every February and have minimal financial resources to take on additional burdens The emergency declaration last week allows them to get reimbursed for expenses and waive any rules slowing a response Give the testing and drug industry a few months and theyll have solutions available The only cure right now is isolation and holding out until theyre in production and available Alternatively the US military has its own massive quick responding medical system and might be able to come up with a miraclebut they also needed that emergency declaration|0 Have you never had to decide between food for your family or going to the doctor Why dont you understand that people without good or any insurance may stay home till they are on deaths door step|0 Well this way the governor can instantly confiscate and spend money without making a tax lawImagine hed pay with official money Hed have to justify the spending So bad luck for the uninsured and insurersVenezuelastyle raiding of private property has always had its fans Assuming people are stupid enough the ones hit by the backlash a bit later wont remember who caused it|0 Da steht auch nichts ber Grenzschliessungen Sowiewo wrde die Schweiz das niemals tun Dafr ist die Wirtschaft zu heilig Es ist sowieso zu spt|0 CDC is a government job they give fuckall about working weekends screw you and your pedantic pandemic feelz|0 People seem awfully obsessed with living and dying and inflicting these very same things on those around them|0 Good luck with thatIt would just make more sense to me to create systems where people are not dependent on the specific competence of elected federal officials to survive in emergencies|1 I hear you on the nose things My mom would have to bribe me as a kid to let the doctors put tubes down my nose I hope you get some sort of treat after that nasal swab How long is the turnaround supposed to be on COVID 19 testing in Ottawa Hope you are negative and feeling better soonI think my aunt will be checking on my grandma a lot She is a nurse grandma used to be a nurse too She says antibiotics arent helping after 5 days so far Could be that awful cold going around too|1 Yeah it was purely about |1 Because there are studies on how to disinfect them without reducing efficiency of them This is an uninformed comment |0 Hes not actually going to jail This will be a suspended sentence|0 Say you just returned from Italy where you attended a large wedding or some shit seems to be the only way I guess|0 WHO has very specific definitions of what constitutes a global emergency|0 Email Ford and Truedau please Us frontline retail workers would appreciate it |1 Yeah I had to get prescription strength vitamin D because my levels were so low But after that my doctor said I could just take the over the counter stuff|1 This has been my experience with fellow Louisianans many came down with an illness suddenly and then it passed|0 Here comes the party bus|1 All of them I highly doubt that|0 Maybe they will make that decision here but I have no idea what will come out of it It makes me incredibly sad to hear from each one of my peers that they dont care they are having enough of the corona news and that we will probably not get infected Bruh|0 I am type O my husband and kids are type A Its a recipe for my worst nightmare|0 That isnt what this paper says Sounds like youre repeating other theories that have been proposed and have nothing to do with this paper|1 Well imagine if it infected Chuck Norris next|0 I understand These are stressful times In our family I am the elderly one with medical conditions It would be rough for him if No use focusing on that We will just keep washing our hands and taking precautions the best we can|0 In general yes but in specific likely no Like if you are a smoker that doesnt have those problems you probably are not at a significantly higher risk of death at least according to what we know now|0 Thats a part of it but not huge part The main reason they are having more deaths per patient now compared to a month ago is because the hospitals are overwhelmed and they do not have enough beds doctors or oxygen tanks to treat the people who have acute respiratory distress from viral pneumonia|0 When there is sustained community spread andor when contact tracing for suspect cases is stopped|0 It is not much better in Prague Czech Republic The average salary is about 1500 USD per month and rents are getting pretty high|1 I love your internal realization And Trust me I feel you I study microbiology and get overwhelmed and confused af with all these posts My dad is a doctor who specialized in virology and he seems nonchalant to any news Thing is we really dont know whats going on It takes time All aspects and variables need to be studied So what can we do until then Nothing Just follow good cleaning habits and be aware Stick to one or two websites for your information CDC and who Take everything else with a grain of salt|1 The govt is saying that masks dont work and thats a lieThe govt doesnt want hospitals to run out of masksI work in the health sector and of course they workEveryone should wear mask onthe tubetrainsany public transport because everyone is breathing the same air Theres been cases where only one persn has it in one flight and by the time they got to the destination all the passengers had itWhy so you think health personnel wear masks to deal with them Its called prevention but the govt cares more about politics than citizens|1 I read somewhere on here that when they released the first numbers 10 infected they had tested some 200 people but only received results for 30ish 10 of which were positive|1 No You may be the one sane person there I was shocked at the attitude we received when cancelling show tickets I think Vegas is going to be worse than anywhere else At least Florida shut down the theme parks|0 American citizens and permanent residents will be permitted to return but will face testing and will be told to quarantined themselves restrictions that Trump failed to mention People have been pouring in for weeks|0 Exactly Who gives a shit if the patient hasnt been to China Youre still letting people travel to and from China If thats the risk you want to take then fucking test|0 Likely attleboro or pawtucket similar to others who tested positive Completely idiotic that school let them back in|0 That makes it sound like youre calling him a Liar |0 I warned my siblings and their spouses a month ago They never responded and probably think Ive lost my mind Its going to be really hard to not say I TOLD YOU SO And Im not able to prep for them our family is spread out all over the country|0 Does it matter if you take vitamin d2 or d3|1 Yep|1 At least reality finally got through to him unlike 90 of my facebook feed which has devolved into cancer of its just a cold bro|0 My wife is due may 1st Im going a bit crazy trying to make absolutely sure she doesnt get infected|1 All about them profits man But what the fuck is wrong with these people coughing on people There was that guy on i think thai airlines who went on there and coughed on people Its insane|0 WTF I hate our government|0 My friend got swine flu from a Disturbed concert Good luck all|1 God I hope hes okay Losing Tom Hanks would literally be the worst possible celebrity to lose Hes an icon|0 and better weatherA recent preprint shows no impact ditto data from Singapore I dont see how it can remain contained unless genetics massively disfavors infectivity for which there is yet no evidence|0 He servers a heros burial by the Chinese government A heros life ruined by crooked government and politician|1 Gonna need a source on this one as well the map in my room clearly only shows the United States s|1 Canada will get bad at the same time as the US I think Ontario is about to explode|0 Wouldnt doing that be an open and shut case for a worker obtaining unemployment benefits at their expenseI had an employer ask me not to return after giving notice but they also made sure to pay me for the remainder of my two weeks for exactly that reason|1 Lol hes not a newsperson find it really weird criticizing him for not having everyone all the time on his own podcast|0 What do you teach Just curious|1 But how will you charm a client with fine dining and hookers if they dont fly to you|1 Im from Florida originally and went out of my way to avoid ever moving back|0 Very nice layout Thanks|1 Italy really only has 2 deaths under 40 Interesting Is there a source for this|1 IF NOBODY ELSE IS HELPING THEMSELVES HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HELP OURSELVES|1 Flexed by allowing conditions to create the virus|1 99 of humans are imbeciles All your money will become useless Capitalism destroys its just slavery You sure are proving your own statements true|0 Wow Thank you very much That made my day Very appreciated|1 httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenindexhtmlYou have better more reliable data|1 Smart man Maybe the US president can take some notes from him and start acting like a damn leader|1 Truly save the world Stop using the scarce oxygen You first|1 All while people are still partying on Spring Break|1 no buzzfeed is absolute fucking garbage|0 I think youve just discovered racism|0 I pray other companies follow as well Enough to worry about being sick and stressing out|0 I sort of disagree I bet if places go on mandatory quarantine for more than two weeks youll see videos of people singing God Bless America or a pop song|1 Nothing That was the point Western leaders sat on their hands knowing full well this was coming and did nothing cuz profits over people Not until hospitals started filling up beyond capacity and people started to drop did they take actions If you think Italy or Spain is bad look at NYC in two weeks to three weeks|0 There was a news report from a Canadian news station today that said the Pope is suffering a slight illness announced after a day of kissing babies and shaking hands in St Petersburg|0 Gosh maybe is goal is to be a super spreader|1 I didnt know if there was a particular reason lol|1 Also many congoers tend to party hard do drugs and not SLEEP Perfect recipe for disaster|0 If YOU China haters thought China was bad well what China does doesnt really affect you as much as what your government does or does not do|0 I would like to point out that those antiAIDS drugs being used lopinavirritonavir were also being used in the SARS outbreak and was also on the governments initial medication recommendation|1 If you have a contaminated truck with COVID19 you already have it I wouldnt bother ruining your interior any further for no reason|1 No test no confirmation no contact tracingNo statsNo worries|0 Hello I am a fellow retail Tesco worker and I fill shelves Every day has been bloody heaving an aisle we normally get 3 cages on we are now getting 89 I worked damn hard to get my deliveries done last week and I woke up yesterday with a very sore throat no cough or fever yet though and following the governments advice I should be ok unless those symptoms appear i know Im bound to get it at some point sooner rather than later tbh|0 Korea has a stronger economy compared to Italyedit didnt know Italy had a strong economy always viewed the EU as rather anemic|1 You expect competence from a state that wasnt competent enough to even show up to write the Constitution|0 Yeah at this point I have to think they want everyone to get sick This is just Malicious negligence now|0 Misread the title thought it was a toilet paper substitute|0 Just curious I saw a bunch of folk in this posts comments bitching about all the folk saying its just the flu but the bloody sub is called china flu So I gotta ask wtf Or is this some weird satire sub|0 The similar numbers thing is precarious at best as is all fortunetelling Proximity hygiene education fear of auth all wildly different|1 A surgical mask will prevent you from infecting others It wont prevent you from getting infected N95 masks do protect you but they are not reusable for the most part you can sterilize them but they loose their effectiveness over time|0 I dunno what youre complaining about Chinese cellphone plans are like 100000x better than what we have in Canada 1GB of data for like 50 bucks seriously|1 Dow futures were down nearly 1000 points this morningStill think its crazyLook at Italy Look at Iran Shelves are bare in both countriesNeither country knew they were infected until last week|0 No good friend Ive been more than vigilant since this thing started in January to the point where I was Cloroxing my mail and wearing nitrile gloves to go shopping and sterilizing all my food packaging before I put it away Id say Id gone way above and beyond the average citizen to avoid this thingI still got the regular flu Took me two weeks to recover Not a single person sneezed in my face This thing is airborne its game over|1 It might not have been possible 10 years ago but its absolutely possible now Southeast Asian countries along with Mexico are all willing to step up and take on mass production responsibilities and for cheaper than China in most cases at this point Not to mention the technology for automation in factories has excelled rapidly in the last decade and we could make automated factories here in the US|1 24747 cases and 1809 dead Thats what the page you linked says|0 Thats a bit self centered lol Do you not have any older family members Grandparents Any family members with preexisting medical conditions Im 34 and Ive survived the flu numerous times but Im more concerned with catching this and spreading it to my parents one of which is recovering from chemo What is even more concerning is that you can have it and not show any symptoms for several days|1 Because we totally need a world war immediately after the pandemic Happy cake day|0 Because it diminishes billionaires returns on the dollar Who do you think puts the likes of 45 in places of positional power Zero other reason|1 Im sorry but this is one experts opinion It seems well reasoned but it may be proven to be wrong Expert opinion is good and we should consider it when making decisions before there is definitive proof But this is not definitive scientific proof It is speculation Just as it is speculation that this virus could behave similarly to SARS and cats could transmit it|1 Please stop trying to sell your bullshit virus mask on Etsy uTheESLTeacher You should be banned across all social media for trying to make money on a global pandemic|0 They couldnt cancel that if they tried|1 Yeah of all the subreddits for this virus this one is my favorite for entertainment|1 You Rock Wuhan be Strong|1 This is the problem its so new very little has been tested against it I dont know if anyone can confirm if its likely to work or not I would guess that its likely to given it works in other viruses in tbe same family but am no virologist|0 Then its not Medicareforall The study is solely based on the prices Medicare pays which isnt enough to cover costs of the patient so it cannot be used to calculate the cost of universal healthcare It doesnt take in any of the details on how Medicare will be insolvent by 2026httpswwwnytimescom20180605uspoliticsmedicaresocialsecurityfinanceshtml Its projected to run a 44 trillion cash deficit between 2019 and 2049|0 Great idea but is it expensive|1 Agreed the main point Ive been making here since joining is that while people outside China should remain calm this is certainly going to get worse before it gets better|1 There are novel methods of treatment not an expert but cases like this where the affected has a high chance of dying anyway would IMO be a good starting point to try out these treatmentsThe problem of course is whether someone who has a high likelihood of dying is even able to give proper consent|1 And retireeselderly AKA one of the most at risk populations|0 Your post has been removed Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 I live in an area prone to tornadoes and its the spring season Its more for if something like that were to occur while we are still dealing with the virus|1 Having it not be voluntary probably has insurance implications as well being so close to the event Im sure they will make claims for things they already paid for and cant recoup|1 If you believe you are sick then be persistent and try to get more answers Another good thing would be to get a mask and maintain a good level of cleanliness whilst not trying to spread it I doubt you have the virus otherwise the doctor wouldve taken you more seriously or at the very least ran more tests|0 This late getting in but ignore those saying all of China deserves this plague They dont Those trading in exotic animals deserve punishment for sure but the rest of populous are like people all over the world They want to live their lives Work family a little happiness before they die hopefully of old age People all over America are the same friends family living life Its unfortunate that some of us are so arrogant and cruel Just remember theres a lot of kneejerk reaction and some are merely being assholes on purpose|0 This looks amazing and I can tell that the numbers for my country Denmark are accurate but I see one issue Well not an issue per se but a product of a faulty system The redgreen arrows that indicate whether were seeing improvements are great tools for countries that do thorough testing but since Denmark went into lockdown last week we have only been testing those who display severe symptoms Theres currently a green arrow indicating that were getting fewer cases on a daily basis but the reality is simply that weve stopped testing a majority of people Those who are showing symptoms but are not in a severe state and may be outside the highrisk groups have largely been asked to selfisolate and not go to the doctor unless treatment is necessary Obviously these nuances wouldnt be something that was reflected in your indicators of progress and I dont expect that they will if you update things but I just wanted to put it out there Still definitely the best tracker for overall numbers Ive seen|1 And probably to people not being complete morons and following simple instructions|1 Two newspapers in the Pacific Northwest have laid off half their staffs since the coronavirus outbreak because ad revenues have dropped so much Its great that the New York Times and Washington Post are rich enough based on having nationwide instead of only local regional ad revenue to give away some of their work for free But maybe you should try paying for news when your local paper asks for your support to pay its staff|1 I got told today when is something not going around Oh okay nvm|1 Happy cake day|1 I believe the House bill requires that positive tests be reported to the CDC If McConnell will allow that measure to come to a Senate vote|1 If it was the suspected one from last week then its Humboldt county They have a sizeable population of trimmigrants people who travel there from other countries to trim weed so its not a huge shock I have family up there and theyve met people from all over|0 How frequently can you donate plasma Can wait times be reduced on an individual basis Could the plasma doner with the antibodies donate more frequently if they receive more plasma from other without the antibodies and if so how much before their plasma is no longer sufficient to Whats the amount of antibodies per unit of plasma|0 Fever and dry cough are the coronavirus symptoms Its in your familys interest for in the unfortunate case that you become unwell you to be diagnosed and treated ASAP Its in your interest for your place of employment to stay healthy so you still have a place to work at I feel for you but past a certain point you have to do the difficult thing|1 To be fair pretty much everything but food stores are closing down in quarantined areas and even most nonquarantined areas They are probably forcing supermarkets to stay up because people need to buy food supplies If they start starving quarantine will turn into a riot|0 Best way to get corona|1 China fully shut down all parts of their country They were able to contain the virus before it got any worse than it already is Until the US government mans up our trajectory is looking worse than Chinas Also China has around 15 more ICU beds1000 people compared to us Our country is vastly underestimating this virus|0 WHO a globalist organization who doesnt have our best interests in mind what a surprise|0 I really hope that the next president does something to change things because no disrespect to my friend but his education level is very low despite him being an extremely intelligent guy|1 That doesnt look like Bernie|0 But the delivery fees will make up like 80 of the bill|1 Except there is Never in the history of the Earth has warming been this accelerated At the same time human civilization eas much more fragmented|1 I appreciate your optimismBut I think this is the same guy who is asking Whole Foods employees to donate their PTO to other employees who are effected by the Coronavirus|1 a full report would have been nice on all blood typs dayumthanks anyway |1 My baddidnt see the one in the 180s Be safe|1 It may just be that babys are so relaxed at least on the inside Their immune systems are stress free and every ounce of energy goes into surviving because thats what they want more than anything else and know that they are worth it|1 20191201 a viral pneumonia patient with an unknown cause was hospitalized at Jinyintan Hospital This patient was the earliest known case of 2019nCoV infections The patient did not have any exposure to Huanan Seafood Market20191227 Dr Zhang Jixian ICU doctor at Hubei Hospital of Integrated Traditional Chinese and Western Medicine files report to Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on pneumonia patients with an unknown cause Investigation opens shortly later20191228 three more patients arrives to the hospital all of whom were related to Huanan Seafood Market20191230 Li Wenliang send messages to private Wechat group about 7 cases of unknown virus with SARSlike symptoms guessing that it may be dangerous20191231 Chinese receives genome results from commercial lab informs WHO of mysterious pneumonia cases in Wuhan China with unknown cause httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFN8NKtXYl2QhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFN8NKtXYl2Q20200101 Officials close the Huanan seafood market where location is linked to some of the patients20200103 China reports a total of 44 suspected patients with the mystery disease National Health Commission issues gag order pending confirmation by official labs frequently cited as evidence of coverup such as by NY Post20200107 China official labs positively identifies new coronavirus as cause of the outbreak20200109 China reports first death linked to the new coronavirus 2019nCoV A 61yearold male admitted to hospital in Wuhan with several underlying medical conditions20200112 China shares the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus20200113 Thailand reports first imported case of 2019nCoV The patient a 61yearold woman from Wuhan did not report visiting the Huanan market20200116 Japan reports another imported case of 2019nCoV The Chinese national a man in his 30s also did not report visiting the Huanan market20200120 South Korea confirms its first case of 2019nCoV The patient did not report visiting the Huanan market20200121 WHO confirms humantohuman transmissionof the virusx200BWestern media once again spreading fake news A gag order prior to identifying the virus to prevent panic cover up as NY Post is implying China basically reported the virus to the WHO the moment they received preliminary reports from commercial labs and then issued a gag order for a few days prior to results from official labsFYI look at OPs post history Hes got a serious bone to pick|0 Nice|1 We have 3m full face respirators Enough cartridges for now but we have been debating if this event is extended how long before we swap out cartridges We are thinking even if we swap them out to save them If this event is extended having a used cartridge is better then no cartridges left We feel like we might run out in a month or two|1 With a chance of being downvoted i must say i dont understand this I assume he commited suicide because of the virus but I mean his degree is probably some kind of epidemiology or virology so why are you depressed from itIt is kinda like if a surgeon commited suicide after doing a procedureAnd RIP|0 There is a 1 hour delay fetching commentsI will be messaging you in 3 years on 20230317 002125 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202303172000212520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfjrcc0dowclosesdown3000points129largestpointfkp8xuycontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Ffjrcc02Fdowclosesdown3000points129largestpoint2Ffkp8xuy2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202023031720003A213A2520UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120fjrcc0InfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Yup 70 employees from that facility are showing symptoms and self quarantining at home almost none of which have been tested Absolutely ridiculous|0 Are these tests 100 accurate Is there a chance he doesnt have it or something|1 Because it says suddenly collapsing likes its a new thing Its not|1 Well see about that corporate|1 Its fine on rCOVID19 or in fact rcoronavirus and rChinaFlu For rCOVID19 you have to be asking a question about something with a reliable base as you are by linking to the CDC pages In other words youre saying What do you think of the CDC plans rather than Does the CDC have any plans which we would probably take down without a source So with a link to the thing youve got a question on for rCOVID19 please|1 glad to know there are many like me |1 Waves Glad we all started prepping a few weeks ago|1 He is different you dolt That still doesnt mean hes not arrogant or an asshole|1 will lose a lot of weight and even once the disease is gone recovery takes 4 to 8 weeksI knew I was on to something when I started eating like shit in January Ive gained 6 kilos since then I weigh 65 kg now|0 But I thought they were cracking down on misinformation Ohh no just whatever doesnt fit the agenda Got ya|0 As a line cook I cant stay home I got to work and pay rent If the government is willing to pay restaurant industry worker some money to stay home I would tbh|0 The CDC sucks Why was there a problem in the first place The US is completely incompetent I have zero faith in the CDC|0 We absolutely do need something like this to wake up the people in denial Trump Tom Hanks some NBA player whatever Something to break thru|1 Only a few months earlier If this doesnt kill you for years then thats hardly helpful|1 Are they within Chinese govt Or part of other nations govtintelligence agency Guessing its the latterI mean it would makes sense that the number would be a lot higher if theyve gone to the trouble of quarantining so many people I am still going to be a little skeptical|0 Right No matter what the CDC is up to this is suspect This is not how it would be announced were it to be|0 My equivalent care package in USA is going to be a visit from the SWAT team|1 This is the problem with people who listen to sam harris they think that theyre so clever and everyone else is thick Nothing of what I said was remotely intellectual i was talking about balls and skin being greenHow hilarious you call others pseudointellectuals yet come out with phrases like thisYou are so consumed by what you think you know that you have no regard for what you might notOutstandingIts easy to imagine a 16th century physician whos never heard of testicular cancer claiming it is impossible for such an occurrenceThis is not what Im doing though Im explaining how science works to you How claims are verified If a claim is not verified you do not need to keep spreading it and just say well it could be trueThis is how bad science spreadsSo we wait We wait for a verified claim then we talk about that|1 Do you think Jeff Bezos wealth is in a giant stack of gold in a vault somewhere He owns stock in Amazon A company thats just barely profitable|1 Ya the only company Ive heard of that seems to be doing a good job with this is Trader Joes Others are kinda following but only if the case is confirmed|1 I know you meant barrestaurant closures but your slip was pretty perfect No more bat eating for me|1 16 I read it was tested with 50 cases of them 8 people died|0 Im in corpus as well The people here are dirty so it wont surprise me when it hits here I used to work at walmart and thank God I quit last year for a better job The people that walk around in walmart are sneezing and coughing all over the carts and in the air And thats JUST walmart When spring break hits avoid the flour bluff walmart|1 I dont know if youve kept up but theyve been reinforcing Wuhans medical system like crazy Entire hospital wards in less hardhit provinces are being closed down and everything staff equipment supplies transferred into WuhanBut its still very hard to keep pace with the outbreak|0 So lets just do what big bad china says or else right|0 This has genuinely made me cry |0 We dont have lots of money We just know how to manage it effectively Theres no point dumping money into random operations I think the fact that weve streamlined our process including involving our policemen to do contract tracing is pretty efficient and key in stalling infection rate|1 I did half jokingly say Mikel Arteta and Hudsonodoi saved thousands of lives and they dont even know it Looks like that may have been a correct assumption|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Highly doubt it People talk about how ruthless the CCP can be but somehow forget at the same time So very not sure about revolution There are going to be piles of bodies before theres a political revolutionBut there will be health reforms for sure|0 A War on Terror approach could be bombing the hospitals where the pathogens and known to congregate then dronestriking random gatherings with such attacks legitimised by the presence of infection age individuals|0 They are the worst Reggie pull out you dont need this company|0 Only America is paid sick leave something substantial|0 Yes but at the same time my approach has been to prepare to stay in my apartment as much as possible for the next 6 weeks Im young and healthy so I dont care about contracting the virus myself and Im sure I eventually will as my county is one of the first to have cases But I definitely do care about reducing R0 and my ability to help in that by avoiding social interactions Id feel enormously guilty if I caused someones death through my own carelessness and lack of preparation|0 You think the chinese would quarantine animals and not just kill them|1 Can you please harass starbucks my friends are forced to come into work even though they have come in contact with carriers BC wont test them and they will be fired or excused without pay if they dont produce a note so they are coming in sick as per corporate who relay this information from home They deem their third place essential fyi their manager decided to go to mexico during this and will be getting paid to self isolate for 2 weeks when they are back|0 Conspiracy theory Xi is moaning about the economic impact of the containment measures and is now downplaying the new case figures Sounds like something the CCP would do|0 Literally shits gonna get weird |0 Isnt the Chinese skewed because it started so much earlier than what was revealed and the numbers already reached the point where the hospital system broke down They had to first identify it as being different from seasonal flu Once recognised as something else and with a broken system then there were too many people to get treatment for acute case and hence died|0 Hate to say it but they are along with and China has more people in their army then most countries have citizens only way the CCP loses power is from within The whole world knows about their muslim concentration camps and nobody can do shit|0 I dont see anywhere in that article that says it is 20x more infectious only that it is up to 20 times more likely to bind to human cell receptors and cause infection than severe acute respiratory syndrome Sars|0 There already is pain in the CDCIn case you havent noticed they are being silenced by the president Hes trying to prevent scientific truth from impacting his presidency and reelection|0 Testing does help stop spreading because when you identify a positive individual you quarantine them and test their contacts You also identify larger clusters that way Testing also leads to preventing the people who are pre or asymptomatic from falsely being let out of a quarantine|1 Found with almost no testing|0 Been saying this Its pretty dehumanizing to the sick and elderly to be treated as a throw away group Im guessing all of us have parents and grandparents too Im of the opinion that this is going to be ok but I do have a partner going in for major cancer surgery in 3 weeks To me hes important I think a lot about the people most effected right now in China They are also valuable I get its a defense mechanism for the young and healthy to count themselves lucky but holy hell its kind of on repeat in comments|0 Ok theres been a lot of flu a and b here but I was not aware of any coronavirus There was a strange case nearby where a young healthy 21 year old woman died within 24 hours of flu symptoms and her bother and husband were also hospitalized and critical There was speculation that it was coronavirus but not confirmed|0 Some people still think masks are ineffective Got into a small debate that I gave up on upon realizing theres no point with someone and they insisted everything I said was wrong even when I gave them an article that had a study prove even a bandanna is better than nothing It obviously isnt 100 effective But the main thing most people forget is that by everyone wearing masks we are also preventing asymptomatic spread which this virus is known for Compared to the flu people can be asymptomatic carriers for up to 2 weeks So in theory everyone wearing masks can help prevent widespread of this virus People just dont get it and it frustrates me|0 The effects take up to 10 days to show up because of the incubation period thats usually about 5 days but can take up to 14 You have to take into account that people are not tested immediatly after sympthoms show up either unless theyre very severe that can also take a few days And another variable will be how many tests the country can performIf we dont see an effect within another few days or a week at most thats when we should start worryingEDIT I just found this imagehttpsmiromediumcommax35841rddYhoUtPse6xNOEinApng Its from the Hubei province in China and you can see that confirmed cases have a lag of about 11 days compared to new cases as they locked down on Jan 23rd actual cases measured by asking confirmed cases when they probably got infected peaked at Jan 24th while confirmed cases peaked 11 days later This would mean that if the lockdown in Italy worked the effects would only be seen in 34 more days|0 This is actually quite common among specialists They are very well informed about one topic but have communication troubles and think theyre smarter than they are|1 True|1 Oh you sweet summer child They already are hon Bless yore heart|1 Yes Norwegian Cruise Lines is not a Norwegian company It is American owned and operated based in Miami|1 48 of closed cases have died |0 You know Ive been trying to figure out the root of the issue of our society that has become so apparent in the last decade or so I think you hit the nail on the head about people being undisciplined here That and lack of compassion|1 Not banned|1 Yeah I have some nurses for relatives and they keep spouting off the flu is a bigger killer dont talk to me unless you also advocate for and get your flu vaccines every yearWhich I do But they think they know soooo much about healthcare and epidemiology|0 That number was passed long ago|1 Thats not at all unusual for Patagonia they will not hesitate to do the right thing even if it cost them financially Their stuff might be expensive but it lasts and they are truly one of the few companies worth supporting|1 I mean we cant really trust a single thing NK says who knows whats actually going on inside that country Everything we on the outside see is only because were allowed to see it And to a much more extreme degree than China|0 Im a cadet addy a military college and Yvette infirmary here is not worried at all I asked them and the nurses said that relative to total withhold pop this is small This is a Senior military college affiliated with the department of defense|1 He is telling us there is no virus because it is the exact same color as the maritime flag that represents the vessel has no infected people on boardhttpsmediagiphycommedia3o6ZtfraiyfUkNDwrugiphygif|0 Recently there is a rise of deaths by influenza around 200 in the last 7 days but because they are not tested for Corona the authorities are ruling the death by convid 19 out Pathetic|0 This sucks Youve gotta trust you gut here Its your responsibility to protect yourself If you get sick from this trip you will be kicking yourself so hard because you had a feeling and didnt trust it|1 Not just 30yrs ago People still say it all over the south Especially the deep south of the Mississippi Delta lol|1 Based on the info youve got and your firsthand experiences do you reckon people are overreacting over the outbreak From numerous sources Ive got the vibes that the virus is not even as serious as the flu Is it true|1 Its not helping that WHO is trying to keep people from panicking by not saying its a pandemic I get that fear is what theyre avoiding and I get why But fear is what will prompt people to wear masks and limit their time in large groups which would decrease the amount of people likely to get infected|0 i am a chinesei think the words she said and the things she had experienced were really familiar to the nurses in china when everyone were not prepared for the viriusthe lack of medical suppliesthe lack of the doctors and nurseseven the lack of time for restAt the beginning of this can be really hard and misery But dont worrychina had finally dealt with itthere will be more available supply send to all over the worldreally touched from her words|0 asymptomatic2020 Canadian Dictionary adjectivePoliticof a condition or a person producing or showing no reactions s|0 All I can hope is that by as many people as possible isolating were doing what we can to protect those who cant isolate because they provide crucial services that cant be done from homePlus all the people not getting out hopefully means fewer car accidents and similar shenanigans will lighten some of the load on EMS And if we as a society manage this social distancing properly hopefully we wont completely overwhelm medical providers|1 Honestly the people Ive seen whining before on Facebook about durr its only killing 3 people a day more people kill themself has taken what little belief in humanity I had The average person simply cant understand basic concepts|0 How badly were they on the brink during 2009|0 Easy target by people who dont care to research anything that the royalty have actually done for the UK And supported by politicians who hate having the Queen make them follow through with promises not waste money on elections etc|1 Not necessarily At any temperature there is a fraction of liquid that evaporates This fraction gives rise to a gas pressure above the liquid the vapor pressure This exists above a solid as well So with that in mind a partial evaporation of salt would occur too The thought is that this would not be a hypertonic steam but should be closer to a saline concentration for someone who cannot afford or doesnt have access to a nebulizer|0 China tested 320k people to find just 500 people infected Thats why they controlled their epidemic|0 Good luck I hope you stay safe and healthy|1 Imho PRC gov is a mix of trying to play it down and just doesnt really know the real number|1 Wet wipes will be the new twenty butt getting change will be awkward|0 You could all call out sick They wont fire their entire workforce|0 WaPo article details it well thanks|1 On the same day Trump releases his budget that includes slashing HHSCDC funding by 9Fun times|0 Well By WHO numbers 3 mortality so about 10 million dead in the US I think it could be worse since the US isnt doing anything to actually contain or slow the rate of infection And the people testing positive now have had at least 2 weeks to spread the virus prior to nowOh and the WHO just said quarantines should last 4 weeks now not two as people are still testing positive 3 weeks after initial symptoms startMaybe only a million people die Pretty sure thatll have a fairly significant impact|1 If the married couple didnt get sick themselves Id say very very small chance they spread it to your Dad|1 I make like 45k50k Thankfully I have decent insurance with a reasonably low deductible Its less reasonable since I pay everything until I hit it but at least I wont go bankrupt if I break a bone or something|1 I wish my city Savannah would cancel its St Patricks Day festivities but the mayor is being beyond stubborn about it|0 That might lead to it being more insidious hiding out in nerves ironically killing or disabling more people but slowly|0 It also seems more airborne than they initially thought with the droplets can be suspended in air for longer than expectedso i read recently|0 how are thousands of people getting infected each day are they not staying home|0 He is a germaphobe they have found their kryptonite he will deny this just so a can block out the idea of the virus Big mistake The reason I bring up the Democrats is that they have become an arm of the Chinese Communist Party They even use Chinese Communist Party talking points about the flu and to criticize the United State|0 Common sense like Global Warming is a Chinese Hoax Healthy Kids get a vaccine come out with autism many casesAs I said before If youre still listening to Donald Trump then there is no hope for you and EVERYTHING you say must be disregarded|1 exactly which is why I pointed out that those of us with symptoms DONT have nasal congestion which wed expect if it were the flu a cold or allergies|0 I think we are all in doubt about this topic|0 Wow thank you for the unexpected laugh needed it|1 2020 will be remembered as the year of hindsightShouldnt have elected that blowhardShouldnt have been so naiveShould have spoke with my grandparents when I had so many opportunitiesShould have had the common sense to realize we live in a disaster of a country only fueled by greed and the people along with myself were too proud and let it happenWeve been telling ourselves for decades that hindsight is 2020 unfortunately per usual we only realize the true meaning of our own prophecy after its caused irreversible damage|0 Im with you man They could be the reason thousands more become infected|0 Probably bc we dont do preventative healthcare It saves a lot more money if you catch stuff at early stages rather than going to the ER when things get super serious |1 Two wars and a few proxy wars in the middle East us not a mistake I made a mistake by not flushing my giant shit and it clogging the toilet needing me to use a plastic knife to cut it up so it can be flushed Killing millions of people is not a mistake Its a war crime for an illegal baseless war to expand military presense in the middle East and using it as leverage to push the agenda of the neoliberal fuckwads who want global power|0 Where does that article contradict what I said|0 Total free marketeers in charge If you want to be safe being relatively well off helps Take some paid holiday or work from home Go to Chevening for a few weeks if youre the PM Not everyone is so lucky Working retail right now is very stressful I am sure|1 The numbers in the states look very low because theyre refusing to test most cases and misreporting statistics they do have to prevent more stock market collapse India will be fucked like everyone else due to many people crammed very close to each other and lack of access to decent medical care for the poor and those living in rural areas Id be amazed if the case death numbers in India arent MUCH higher than reported also|0 No youre right But we do have technology to help some people survive it when they wouldnt have in the past|1 Thats a good point I was just thinking of the immediate effects I remember some disruption but it seemed to pass pretty quick I feel like this is going to go on much longer and feel more disruptiveThe long term effects are going to be fascinating to watch unfold How will America be different in a year Will we ever go back to shaking hands Will people go back to going out at the same rate as before I have no idea but we are living through history and it will be interesting to watch|1 lol|1 Well thats part of the problem they have then isnt it Its kind of sad if you cant think of anything more challengingentertaininginteresting to do than masturbationAre you for real You would run out of things to do very quick What are you gonna do thats more challeningintertaininginteresting Youre talking like you have to spend hours masturbating or coming up with plans and shit I cant see any negative aspects to doing it only good things Where is the problem Im astonished and Ive never heard of anyone thinking like this We must live in different parts of the world|1 So what stops someone from lying and saying yep totally just came back from Italy|0 Oh god I thought this was fake then I googled it Were so screwed|0 Glad I make my own beer|1 I believe there are only 40 international airports in the US So the top 20 should cover the vast majority LAX JFK SFO etc|1 As an Army combat vet your valor honestly deserves an award after this is all over You had no training on how to cope with this like basic training AIT war games and you folks soldier on Seriously thank you|1 Dude you were doing great until you decided to go off the deep end into blaming the DemocratsThe Trump administration is telling everyone that theres absolutely nothing wrong and we should keep spending and buying stocks They literally just blocked top health officials from making any kind of public statement unless it is approved directly by the White House Congress had to TELL the Republican White House No please please take MORE MONEY to try and const this problem because youre not asking for nearly enough|1 Soon it will be like this everywhere|1 I like how we pretend the left button even exists|1 Im pretty sure Idaho has tested zero or not claimed any|1 bro not even kidding last time i checked the stock market all the companies on my watchlist were in the red|0 Hell even make Easy to use kits of un assembled materials to assemble yourself And all profit goes to covid research|1 They aint even putting themselves intk consideration My coworkerwss hospitalized for a WEEK in January because of influenza and shes also touting its just the flu My retort is didnt the flu hospitalize you for a week and you still cant pay your medical bills|0 This isnt a blind allegiance to Trump thing people in California hate Trump and Its just a flu bro is all over here|0 For all its faults China set the fucking bar Had the Western World capitalized on the time that China bought us millions of lives could have been saved And now who is helping countries the world over fight this epidemic Heres a clue its not the fucking United States China is lending materiel personnel and expertise to Italy Iran the United States Pakistan and many other nations Lets criticize Chinas domestic policies another time This is a war of nature two Kingdoms of life set at terminal odds with each other Fuck this China hate Some local party leaders bungled shit initially then the entire country mobilized in the spirit of selfsacrificesomething our overfed weak excuses for societies in the west were incapable of doing Look at Trumps response Hes killed millions of his own people And whats he doing Hes fucking golfing President Xi is walking through wards in Wuhan leading from the front Again enough with the China hate|0 368 is still equivalent of an airliner crash|0 This idiot lady yesterday said no schools will be shut Today one day later the schools are shutIts almost like they are adapting to an ever worsening situationyou idiot why dont you close the schools Omg you closed the schools make up your mindThis is Facebook meme level|0 hell have to pay in like 46 years once it makes its way through the collections and legal processes and his wages get garnished|0 For most of the working population economic ramifications of this would be significantly worse than the illness itself Im not advocating for it as the right stance but thats why so many young people just dont give a shit|1 Haha I thought Australian Aboriginal|1 You work from home too Lucky They are trying to get my GFs branch to become WFH but I work in a factory that makes tobacco soooo yeah hope we shut down for a bit|1 This user is a deranged antiTrumper spreading lies and misinformationhttpsnpredditcomrpoliticscommentsf8j8dzschiffhitsbackattrumpsfalseclaimsblamingfilv73a|0 And ridiculous fractions|0 The official advise from the government is DO NOT VISIT A GP if you contact a new persistent coughhttpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublicwhattodoifyouhavesymptomsIm sure it cant be legal for them to be telling you to go against the official government instructions|1 Yeah but when they develop it it will be beautiful amazing and probably too late|1 Two cases in my local town of Robbinsville and nothing has been done except a cleanse of the place they worked which was a fucking hospital Everything including schools are still open Wtf Trump|0 So I read Ive bought some from Tescos for 160 a tin and some Plant Pioneers young jack fruit from Sainsburys for the same price Ive got some recipes to try which are all heavily seasoned Would be nice to have a long life meat replacement to keep in the pantry Not that Im planning on giving up meat Its just nice to have tinned stuff that requires minimum prep before use|1 Incredible information thank you for sharing This story definitely makes much more sense and we already knew case 31 did not travel abroad so there was already local H2H transmission going on prior to her getting sickAnd youre right the psychiatric ward news was highly unusual in how thoroughly infected it was The caregiver link to China as well as the timing return from Chinese New Year makes this very very convincingThank you again for the information and for the bravery of speaking out this helps humanity because it allows us to piece together what happened and what the real risks are|1 We saved a full shopping cart on EasyCoop one of the available local supermarket chains that do home delivery in northern Italy yesterday without completing the purchase and this evening like 30 products were already unavailableout of stock eg canned food flour etc Frankly the entire website was quite glitchy and Ive heard that the Esselungas has been maintenance mode too|1 I actually remember hearing a few sneezes but nothing I would turn my head at like a persistent cough or anything I definitely think it was passed along in a more subtle way and thats the scary thing|1 Not true Patient zero was in Seattle and that was weeks agoHe returned on Jan 15 and wasnt tested until the 2021st Even if he did quarantine himself it could of spread at the airport httpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020p0121novelcoronavirustravelcasehtml|0 Not a direct answer to OP but related in my area Hertfordshire NHS physios are still going to homes of extremely vulnerable patients terminally ill for example with no requirements to even ask about potential virus symptoms before or during visits|0 This is great news The loss of the aerosol masking effect will enhance temperatures and ozone levels world wide This will rapidly decrease net primary productivity and accelerate crucial tipping points|1 The main question for me is are they truly asymptomatic Or its just so mild and of short duration that a normal person wouldnt even notice Like feeling a bit tired one day or a slightly scratchy throat one after noon that goes away the next etc Symptoms an average person might have randomly on a normal day not because of an illness|0 I really wish theyd get rid of tha signin prompt I know its not a big deal but people are already reluctant to read about this information no one who already isnt convinced is going to sign up for the privilege|0 Imam Tawhidi is an absolute snake and should not be trusted at all|0 Not soon HHS Sec Azar said today testing will only be done when a doctor insists on it I do hope we get to broad testing in the community to see how far this has spread and how many cases with few symptoms are really out there but it wont happen soon Azar even says they have more tests than orders for them|1 The two hopes I have that are rational reasons you cant just extrapolate to Wuhan type craziness in the US as a foregone conclusion are that 1 it seems like clusters of deaths are hard to miss for long they noticed them in Iran and Italy not obvious places where it would spread but theyre not finding obvious clusters of deaths in Thailand and Vietnam where they can test albeit probably not thousands of tests That and Singapore getting to clearly nonexponential growth suggests that summer will slow this down in the temperate parts of the world And 2 if the Chinese numbers are anywhere close to realistic outside of Hubei it suggests that drastic containment efforts can drastically reduce R It remains to be seen what will happen in Italy and South Korea but it seems like pretty significant social distancing is happening I really really hope we see a leveling off of growth with a 2 week latency where these countries level off at a few thousand cases But if the Chinese numbers are just bullshit or getting R down requires a kind of lockdown that democracies just cannot achieve it could be a really long bad year|1 Trucker here I work for one of the largest food carriers in the US Our company sent a mass fleet message to all drivers this morning instructing us to avoid truck stops minimize contact at shippers and receivers followed by the standard list of what not to do to minimize spread We have access to online doctors if we feel ill and can isolate ourselves in our trucks if sick It also stated that we are not able to stop driving as we are essential for the function of the nation Best of luck yall|0 Care to explain whats happening in Sweden I live in Sweden and by the looks of it both NL and SWE are in the similar situation At the time of this post France has 45k cases Sweden has 1k and NL has 960|1 Howd you come to that conclusionBecause it doesnt make sense to exempt the UK from it The virus is already there and theres free traffic from the UK between the EU so people come in contact with each other all the time So I think the UK is also one of those hotspot locations you mention they just dont realize it yet Italy is a warning about whats to come and its far from over there and many countries are heading that same path Same goes for the US Im willing to bet that the US already has over 100000 true cases already and no lockdown edit httpswwwpoliticoeuarticletrumpukmaybeaddedtoustravelbanlisthttpswwwpoliticoeuarticletrumpukmaybeaddedtoustravelbanlist|1 Additional emergency funds become available to the federal government and the states thats all|0 True Im probably on the far end of being ready for it My daughter is immunocompromised so we jumped on the band wagon immediately|1 What panic and hysteria Nobody even knew this existed until the stock market slumped|0 Chinese immigrants like most other immigrants share a cultural identity with other people from their home country Its not unreasonable to think they have close personal ties with people from their homeland and may have recently visited them especially with the recent Lunar New Year holiday That is a reasonable concern but not terribly likelyThat being said how Chinese people are being treated around the world over this is disgraceful You can still say hi and be kind to people you have an irrational fear of for virus exposure just do it from a distance and youll be fine|1 Me too But the only thing we can really do is practice good hygiene Stay out of mass public eventsgatherings And stock up on supplies Worrying about it nonstop wont help you or anyone Focus on planning and preparing Get plenty of sleep Also quit smoking if you do|0 Then we just have to worry about the likely 1000s of others out there carrying the virus who havent been tested|0 They just gotta keep it suppressed long enough for investors to pull their money out before shit hits the fan As always the rich and their money comes before everyone else|1 Antibacterial does nothing against viruses unfortunately|1 Hes too egotistical and dumb to tell the truth |0 Its Obamas faultNo idea Theres no logical explanation Trump must just be gambling the death rate will be low enough to ignore|0 Ive only been intubated once During surgery and while under full anesthesia I woke up and my uvula was scratched up My throat was so sore from it I couldnt eat for a couple days But Im alive and I still have my arm I had a nasty case of MERSA They had to go in and try to suction as much of the infection out as possible When I was admitted I had a fever of 104 I was put immediately on the list for surgery when the doc looked at my arm|0 Be careful the new law means that they might be stopped if they want to visit stuff like Milan or Venice|1 I participated in an oral history project in school to prevent the loss of local histories I need to see if I can find it I focused on the 1918 fluWWI WWII and interviewed two elderly women about their experiences It was unbelievably heartbreaking Both lost a father to the flu pandemic and had challenging childhoods|0 According to my mom the higher ups are discussing reinstating telecommuting My point is theyre not responding fast enough Almost every action the feds have taken has been after the fact The WHO classifying this as a pandemic is not enough pressure for them to do the right thing|1 no test kits not masks no protections everything already running out|0 i dont like the wording still do like tp is the ideal tp is actually inferior to washing ur ass with water|0 Wow officials all over the world are making huge life or death mistakes They dont care enough to do some basic research Instead they give wrong information and look ignorant|0 Just cam back from Sobeys definitely more people than usual Meat shelves toilet paper shelves are empty|1 makes you wish you had good border controls|1 Theyre gonna stay on top of a shelf until its too late sadly|0 Free to stream on YouTube if anyone wants to watch ithttpsyoutube9vz06QO3UkQHighly recommend it|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I liked it better when it was just tenyear olds teaching how to make slime and cheesy lipsyncing Now its heres an ambulance dragging dead bodies away to be cremated|1 Because those comments are getting old as fuck|0 I have to give credit to my wife who is a doctor When Covid was just starting to appear in the US I went to the pharmacy to make sure we were stocked on standard OTC drugs We go through a decent amount of Advil ibuprofen so I got that Then she suggested we also stock Tylenol because we dont know exactly how this virus works yet so we might want a fever reducer with a different mechanism of action in case it has a weird interaction with ibuprofen Tylenol was on a really good sale I got 500 capsules for like 10|1 Hes not wrong on one hand the American dispatch did things pretty bad Some of them didnt have masks on no one had glasses including the American medical officer who put his glasses over his head rather than on his eyes while we know it gets through the eyes as well They were sharing the same air during the long flight with infected people some wearing N95 masks with valves It wasis more risky than staying isolated in their roomsBased on his Twitter theyve never left the room even to go on the dock or balcony so they might be much luckier than others|1 Itd be weird if you werent|0 yep theres nothing draconian about it to me its the most reasonable and natural decision its so obvious that anyone wouldve thought of and agreed|1 Thank you Comrade Cuomo|1 I work in midtown I wear gloves until I get to my desk and then sanitize everything very frequently Is it crazy that Im keeping my son home voluntarily and my wife is staying home from work a daycare I cannot risk them being exposed even if not a high riskMy parents are staying with me both over 60 and smokers with hypertension My boss and co workers keep saying its just the flu dont worry They will be fine|0 According to your tracker Im completely safe in Canada Not even a single case|1 Yay thanks Hong Kong But the real question is IF it works or not|1 My mom works as a Coroner Investigator A few weeks ago some people from her office were called to california to help not anything involving dead people We live in Colorado|1 Would you mind jinxing our president and his administration please|1 When people in their towns start getting sick and dying its going to be pretty hard to maintain that kind of cognitive dissonance Not that I wish that on them but if they dont take any precautions because they were told they didnt need to its going to be hard to avoid|0 Longer than that The USA is 50 states meaning 50 chances for a State government to be dumb and not accept whatever the Federal government decidesI wouldnt be surprised if one or two states never take it seriously and become ghost towns in the time after the pandemic|0 Viruses also evolve as they spread to have increased vitality and decreased lethalityI assume the lethality in Wuhan is mostly to do with local factors but also the version in Wuhan is likely more lethal than versions spreading outside of ChinaThe flu is historically famous for lethality today it still kills a lot but only because of vitality combined with compromised immune systems A million people die every year from the flu and we dont panic because we have enough herd immunity that it doesnt have novelty anymore and doesnt overrun hospital resources anymoreThats the future of the corona virus containment only helps us slow it down so we have time to stockpile and prepare hospitals everywhere|0 No the government cannot do that workers can do that within certain conditions The government only has a few workers compared to all the available workforce Its not something easy to do at all especially not in these time and space scales|0 So were asking to World to stop going to sports stadiums and events shopping malls concerts busy restaurants and fast food outlets social gatherings of weddings funerals etc Need I continue Life must go on We have to mitigate by not affecting our lives too much otherwise whats the point Do you want to be locked up in your house for the next 12 24 months I dont Due to its virulent nature which is higher than our conventional flu personally I cant see this virus burning out anytime soon Hope Im wrong|0 Middle class americans with high deductibles wont go either My kid went to an ER once the doctor entered our room and told him to go across the street to the childrens hospital The bill for that 3000We arent getting tested Pence will cover my copay Hooray My household deductible is 7000|1 As of now there are 88 cases outside of Mainland China If fatality rate is as lethal as SARS which I hope it wont then there would be casualty in those countries|0 There is real world shit going on right now|0 Uhh you do know there are other coronaviruses and viruses rightOh shit are there Then theres no need to research this virus since weve researched other viruses Surely theres nothing unique about COVID its just like the flu rightFact of the matter is medical experts didnt know whether pets could be a vector so youre claiming that you knew better than experienced epidemiologists I still want you to prove to me that you have never kicked a baby in the face As of now I dont have any evidence that it never happened|1 I didnt count this exactlyhttpslawcentergiffordsorggunlawsstatelaw50statesummarieswaitingperiodsstatebystate but over 35 states have no waiting requirement for any type of gun and several of the remaining states have no waiting requirements for long gunsYour first post said usually but in fact your experience is the outlier as California has some of the strictest requirements It is not typical of a firearm purchase in the US|0 Yes agreed I flagged the issue of racism and received a prompt response that they are working 55 to remove racist posts 45 for other clean ups|0 Truth|1 And the bootlickers actually believed him lolHow many troops has he brought home againIts funny you redhats are shocked normal people dont like being lied to but you guys love it|1 True but note that incubation period is the hardest to measure reliably it requires a positive blood test on a patient without symptoms 24 days isolation then the showing of first symptoms and another positive blood testIt is unclear how the authors measured incubation period if it was based not on blood tests but on suspected date of infection then the maximum incubation period numbers are necessarily unreliable|1 I had that kind of pain when i was young I had some nerve stuck near my teeth several years and noone knew about it not even me and i had extreme pains what felt like in ear i went to so many doctors and all tolod me im fine INSANE pain i told my mom that i wanna die rather then live like this it was comming in waves like every day or second day unbearable pain nothing helped not even meds etcOne day randomly i went to a dentist and he noticed it and got me tooth out or something and all of a sudden no pain you cant imagine the relief after so much suffering Hope one day you gonna feel that you have it worse and more painful then what i had bud still that was my side sucks as fuck Life is so random some rich fuck could easily avoid what you go thru with best meds and doctors and you have to suffer fuckin life fuckin society People spend millions on toys and shit and dont help others in need|0 Above a certain point money cant save you from a virus It can make your chances better by treating the symptoms but the sheer fact that viruses work by hijacking the bodys own cells mean that only the immune system has the precision to kill the virus without killing the patientA lot of old rich men are going to die in the coming months|1 To add to numberphifteens reply of the top off my head I remember the Hoteps who believe ancient egyptians were black the Hebrew Israelites who believe ancient Israelites were black which or course makes them massive antisemites and enemies of the Hoteps The Nation of Islam basically believes wakanda was real and was brought down by white caveman who were an eugenics experiment|0 No N95 is for people who will be exposed but cant be sick like health workers or people with compromised immune systems who need to go outside Surgical mask help health workers from spreading nasty stuff while they breath or talk over something like an open wound they need filtration for the slow air they are expelling If the doctor coughs with the mask on it is of no use he is so close to the patient that the patient will get infected from whatever the doctor has in his mouth and Im talking about regular bacteria nothing related to covid since the air will not pass through the filter it will just go around the mask and create a cloud of infectious saliva Mask for regular people can be made from anything rip a tshirt or whatever the idea is not to block viruses with the filter but to slow the air of the cough so the affected area is smaller Yes you can use a surgical mask and yes you can use n95s but both are overkills for what you want to achieve and people need the medical staff to be able to do their work|0 Im not so sure about a death being a big news story and waking people up Its really not that unusual for a major race to have deaths multiple when its warm out Ive participated in events where more than one person has dropped dead and you really dont even noticeNot saying its smart to run tomorrow Just that it would take something extreme to make it a big news story|0 So in any laboratory test theres a chance of a false positive Ive heard more about false negatives or testing too soon Im curious what the actual stats are but Im not sure where to find them|1 I believe a five year old died in China but had lung complications from cancer|0 As this is the case for current testing within Canada we have ensured our sidebar is up to date with all relevant provincial links for hotline general information If changes are made with regards to testing locations well gladly update our information|1 Teammate Gobert tested positive Rest of team tested due to close proximity to positive teammate|1 Hello you have reached the CDC please stay on hold until you hang up|1 Ya Larger initial investment since buying it all at once but my wife and I have gotten many things bulk prices or of products we will need in the nearish future anyway In the long run we may have ended up saving a decent sum of money and eating healthierThe people suggesting that stockpiling and preparing are panicking unnecessarily blow my mind I cant see a reason why not to adequately prepare and to refuse to do so is beyond negligent|0 Some lost job to Indian |0 Cause I dont like doing things that are different|0 Its a wordforword copy of the title of the post I linked to If you want to complain go complain on that post|0 The stock market usually doesnt crash until theres already been a real world recession for a whileThe 1929 crash was a response to news about the growing wave of bank failures in rural areas and slumping consumer demandThe crash in autumn 2008 came after the housing bubble had been deflating for a yearIf you think this recent week of panic selling is bad wait until the slew of cuts to corporate earnings projections comes inThen well see a real crash Im guessing sometime in early April|0 The emoji is not a laughing face its a grimacenervous smile Its conveying nervousness and discomfort|0 Yes they tested every worker with mild symptoms Like really mild Not Wuhan mild|1 You say that but we have a huge homeless population here where I live because landlords keep raising rent Inability to pay didnt stop them they just evicted them and now we have a growing issue Look at medical bills number 1 cause of bankruptcy Theyre still outrageously high The reality is they dont care If you cant work someone more desperate than you will happily take your place Welcome to capitalism|1 Thats what this sub used to be Facts and analysis Then it got popular and the conspiracy posts started along with all the politicallycharged posts going both waysThe mods here have done a fantastic job trying to keep things objevtive and orderly But they seem to be fighting an overwhelming tide I feel for themId also like the idea of a reboot especially as rCOVID19 is a less raciallypolitically charged name|1 Unless youre a chinese middle aged guy or have lung issues already Im sure youll be fine|1 Good point|1 No no you didnt because these are ventilators|0 The flu infects millions per year and kills tens of thousands in the US alone If this was allowed to spread like the flu it would probably infect more people and kill over a million again only in the US Worldwide unchecked this could kill many tens of millions The seasonal flu is a very bad cold This is a pandemic|0 Good for you Im still trying to convince my friends and family to prepare|1 Not at all not a turning point at all number of cases are still incredibly smallNo one in the western world will pay any more attention than beforeIran is becoming interesting to me though since it came out of nowhere and is so far way from the Far East|1 I would hope that the people who are not financially desperate would buy a to go dinner and pay for one or two others who are in need|1 They have static in them that traps germs If all it helped was to avoid touching your face a scarf would workI see everyone with masks not scarves|0 Thank you I told my family member this and they told me its Chinas fault how did America drop the ball I explained to her the situation that we are currently in and she saidit takes time to make tests correct we should have had them ready I told her Japan did 100k in the first week of community spread They have no idea they told me its only been in our county for a couple weeks no it hasnt I swear I quit People are just sticking their heads in the sand and blaming China Dumb|0 Ive been sick since last Thursday Im presumed positive with no test Shits been in the community for a little bit|0 Damn ok looks like online classes it is|1 I did get it right the first time Trump said to the vast majority of Americans the risk is very very lowhttpsimgurcoma1ii5s8r proof|0 Yeah should have not said that Should say Taiwan instead|1 Sweet fancy Moses This is criminal httpswwwwishtvcomnewsindiananewsindianachurchencouragessickpeopletoattenditsservicesamidcoronavirusconcernshttpswwwwishtvcomnewsindiananewsindianachurchencouragessickpeopletoattenditsservicesamidcoronavirusconcerns|0 Yeah and as I say when more is known about the causes and the disease this will be integrated into the conspiracy theory and in their heads will make the story even stronger even though at first before someone comes up with a way to integrate into the narrative it will be somewhat contradictory to the current theory Have you seen Beyond the Curve Netflix doc|0 My people back home giving him credit like 90of our travel cases arent from the US |1 Thanks appreciate it|1 I was shocked to see that some reported KFC was still open in China during some of the lockdowns First of all as an employee fuck that I wouldnt risk my life for 10 an hour if that in China Second getting sick from customers Just all around wtf|0 Its just a virus infecting older people Wait why are my countrymen dying from gathering together praying to the holy wall for protection You say the one true god cannot protect his believers HERESY HERESY Stone this man to death Blame China Bateaters dont know how to shut their citizens in their cities Fucking gross bateaters spreading disease acting like they are the saviour of mankind HERESY I SAY Lets just keep touching this holy wall while protesting for human rights not to be quarantined|0 Ooh thanks you caught a typo I will correct|1 This is outstanding news as someone who became extremely ill with all the symptoms Tuesday February 25th I have a strong feeling I was already infected Im a current nursing student at Everett Community College in Washington USA And work in an emergency room in downtown Seattle Washington I hope this program rolls out quickly and I can request a test My symptoms were so severe I visited the doc that morning and was tested for strep and influenza AB and both were negative Dry cough continues as of today|0 But how does he eat his hamberders Likely doesnt clean his phone either|0 I feel your wording doesnt do that justice Its saying it wont do a throat nose swab due toIncreased transmission rates by doing so and theyll instead rely on other clinical factors to determine whether you have it This is what happens in Wuhan and it has the result of increasing reported infections not reducing|0 Great news But more importantly how much does it cost|1 Its easy to point and laugh and call them stupid but the way our media fearmongers every other issue I think most of these people feel like they are listening to the boy who cried wolfNot necessarily defending their actions but its hard to take the media seriously when they fearmonger so much Just because they went no this time we are serious it just doesnt click with a lot of people|0 That ship was a floating petri dish that is why the US flew our folks home something wasnt being done right in the way of quarantine there They were all supposed to get off tomorrow and just yesterday there were 90 new cases Craziness|0 Thats bullshit They need to provide a full refund and compensation for endangering your life Call a lawyer|0 Yup this is exactly what my grandmothers community is like right now in XianTheyre allowed to leave the residential block to go to a specific grocery store once every two days Other than that theyre quarantined to their gated community She has not been allowed to visit my grandpa who is in a nursing home since early January Nobody is trying to go anywhere anyway theyre terrified of the virus being mostly 70 in age and more than happy to complyMy parents were in China early January and they said the attitude we have in the US now is how it was when the virus first broke out in China People werent scared and didnt think theyd catch it or get sick Nothing was cancelled And it spread like crazy If we dont do more testing and quarantining in the US we could be headed to an even worse outbreak than China|0 Yeah my mental health is really taking a toll but I cant bring myself to look away from this ongoing train wreck|0 Thank you for scarring the shit out of us|1 I am so sorry to hear this I know how you feel its so anxiety provoking We are all here for you Keep us posted|0 I think the UK government are being advised that if they act too early in ordering quarantine people will simply ignore it|0 Im a paramedic and the morale here has already been so low for years People hate management and have no trust in them Many employeremployee issues have historically been solved by medics just going home sick since our sick days are paid 100 I can see about 60 of us saying fuck this if we run out of PPE Were techinically not considered an essential service in ontario and were also not considered healthcare workersLocal Fire department is now refusing to come to any medical calls due to staff safetyThat alone makes me not want to come to work when I make 12 of what a firefighter makes despite being way more skillededucateduseful we dont get to retire as early work 10 times as hard on a good day etc etc|0 I havent lost a loved one since 1992 I have a TON of very old relatives and nobody seems to care yet|1 Moron|0 Just found out about this sub after reading a post from an Italian woman urging Americans to take this seriouslyAfter an hour Im stressed while thinking of how bad this has gotten in such a short time and after being told Its just like the flu just wash your hands so all this doom and gloom is both appreciated but frightening 75 recovered in China is good since it would be a lot worse|0 Health is linked to economics Poorer countries tend to have more health risks Wealthy countries tend to be better equipped to prevent contain and treat health risks|1 Im traveling March 8th and my girlfriend is mad for seeing how things go a few days before I fly out saying that I am overreacting about it|0 Dude have you ever seen a pangolin Theyre adorable|1 I mean at this point I think its obviously better to get sick for a couple of weeks than to ruin millions of lives How is that not reasonable|0 Its been removed PMs are totally welcome|1 And didnt give a shit what people think I respect|1 That many police being out in public is contributing to the crowding problem|0 Doesnt that usually mean in the game that the world has been saved Because one place still lives without the virus|1 Reddit karma for sure Right |1 Nah yur mad brah|0 we should have banned all flights from Italy ages ago or at least precautionary quarantined them|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Keep an eye on how many rallies hes doing if he stops shit is serious haha|0 Well we should act like it is proven because the Spanish Flu killed in exactly that way First wave killed a few people and infected some second wave killed the most people and weakened the infected that survived and then the third wave came and killed a ton of the survivors of the first two waves|0 Wow thats so sad |1 Lol|1 When your workmates realise how serious the virus is some of them will blame you for it because you mentioned it first Its what stupid people do Just so you know whats coming When things start to impact closer to home and the severity of it has to be faced make sure youre watching your back|0 You are neglecting the cost of depreciating capital equipment China wins in manufacturing because of scale and supply chain efficiency not because of cheap laborEven if you move a factory from China to the US you still have to import all the components from China You dont actually save on shipping cost and you actually end up increasing your supply chain complexity because instead of import 1 end user item you have to import hundreds of components separatelyTo make reshoring cost efficient you would have to reshore not just one factory but the entire supply chain This is a much more difficult task than moving just a factory|0 The Kaggle Journal of Chinas vs the rest of the world gives some optimism But then again Im still improving my knowledge over all of this|1 Sample size of 2000 thoughnot sure we can make a lot of solid conclusions with just this|1 No 20 38 is the total including 2 dead and 14 recovered|0 Not sure why youre downvoted This is the correct answer and was well established over a week ago This sub has gotten worse and worse as it has grown|0 ELI5Just a disclaimer that I am not a medical professional and there were some parts I didnt understand particularly when discussing blood cultures etc I also left out information regarding the accountability and transparency of the report as I assumed most people just wanted the core information The group of patients used in this report included all adult inpatients at two hospitals in Wuhan over the age of 18 years old who had either died or been discharged by 31st January 2020 Total of 191 patients At the end of the study 137 were discharged and 54 died in hospital The median age was 56 years and most patients were male 48 of patients had a comorbidity another illness besides COVID19 Most common were hypertension high blood pressure at 30 diabetes at 19 and coronary heart disease at 8 The most common symptoms were fever 94 and a cough 79 followed by sputum production coughing up gunk from throatlungs and fatigue If you scroll to tables 12 in the link theres a relatively clear table on the percentages Average time from illness before being hospitalised to discharge was 22 days but the average time from illness prior to hospitalisation and death was 185 days Higher possibilities of inhospital death were associated with older age a higher score on the sequential organ failure assessment SOFA and high levels of ddimer type of protein found in blood Sepsis was found to be most frequent complication leading to death The average time it took for viral shedding virus leaving body was 20 days in survivors The longest observed time for the virus to leave in a survivor was 37 days and the shortest was 8 days Fever was defined as anything above 383C If anyone can explain table 3 it would be most appreciated as that is where my knowledge and understanding went out the window Hope this helpsEdit formatting|0 But what do we do in NYCI got an email from Lyft saying not to take public transit ride shares or taxis to the doctor if youre sick There is no other option for the majority of New Yorkers unless youre in walking distance of your provider|0 He wasnt not tested because they didnt think he had it he wasnt tested because it wasnt relevant information at the time There werent enough tests to go around and the tests have to be reserved for people being hospitalized so the hospitals know how to treat themThe absolutely correct decision at the time was to deny him testing and tell him to self isolate He may have even exposed himself and gotten covid when he went to get testing|0 The downfall of a species Sounds almost like Cram Mentality|1 This is frustrating Id think stripping and hopping into a hot shower after work would be nice He seems to just have a routine he doesnt want to break Time to wifekick him in the butt|0 Working with old people frequently makes me really hate how this is happening Most of these folk will have a trough time and even die mainly due to government incompetence in multiple countries And all the 20 year olds like myself just think its the flu|0 And making the right choices means calling the 1500 as the Italian authorities said and wait to be picked up not going to the ER like your friendcolleague did which was extremely irresponsible as he might have just infected the entire hospitalI cant believe this shit Thats what patient one did btw and people died because of his stupid mistakean Italian|0 Videos in this threadWatch Playlist 9654httpsubtletvcomrfhe9ixfeatureplaylistnline1VIDEOCOMMENThttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvTXOKJNVjnD8t1shttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvTXOKJNVjnD8t1s2httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfhe9ixfkboacxcontext10fkboacx I do live in italy we are now shut down by the government No one is allowed to go outside unless it is for serious work or health reasons my dad is a nurse and they really have too choose whom to save and whom to let 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with this girl I hope shes ok Thats so crazy I am losing hope over this situation|1 I understand under regular circumstances that theyd want to see someone in person when theyre trying to seek FMLA but these are not regular circumstances They cant even try to accommodate you somehow Like let you come in the back door or something so you dont have to walk through the waiting room|1 You can calculate a CFR before the event is over it just may not be completely accurate and Im not trying to be nor am I saying that I am I said that was an approximation plus it includes youth adults and elderly so it is not individual to age it combines them all and gets very generalAnd I agree that if hospitals and health systems began to degrade or shut down this would be far deadlier but that is difficult to predict because there are so many variables|0 Big problem is that this doesnt happen all the time so there is still a high chance of the government devolving back into civil war Then you have those countries who try to use democracy but there are too many power hungry people The system never works unless it works in the beginning|0 Did you try to sell it off a site like Craigslist or gumtree |1 The whole world already knew about that forest He only wanted to expose a dead body for attention likes etc|0 There was an emergency onetime funding allocation of 500m as a response to the 2014 Ebola outbreak in West Africa budgeted over the course of 5 years There wasnt actually an 80 cut The emergency funds ran outx200Band then were replaced I read about this on FactCheckorghttpsFactCheckorg today There were headlines about the cuts at the time but the problem was avoided A lot of people have been repeating this but its not actually truehttpswwwfactcheckorg202003falseclaimaboutcdcsglobalantipandemicworkhttpswwwfactcheckorg202003falseclaimaboutcdcsglobalantipandemicwork x200BThe director of the CDCs Center for Global Health did say at the time that without additional funding its Division of Global Health Protection will have to scale its global health security portfolio to focus efforts based on existing resources as the Wall Street Journalhttpswwwwsjcomarticlescdctoscalebackworkindozensofforeigncountriesamidfundingworries1516398717 first reported in January 2018 If that happened the official said the CDC would shift its focus to just 10 priority countries and plan for the completion of its countrybased programs in 39 other nations the Journals story said Those hypothetical cuts were avoided however because Congress later provided more funding for the CDCs global health programs the CDC told us in a statement|0 It doesnt really matter because whether you dont test enough or you test a huge amount that only affects the length of the line ie your rate of case discovery remains the same if your testing regime doesnt change The UK tests somewhere in the middle the US tests fuck all South Korea and China test a lot The growth of those captured cases will be the same regardless of whether you are really capturing 100 of cases or just 10 of casesIt doesnt change the steepness of it which is the critical thing here in a logarithmic chart Thats why all these countries that are fucking up have a remarkably similar steepness Because they are all basically making hardly any dent in the virus progress we are probably seeing the natural course of the virus when no obstacles are placed in its path Too much of a coincidence otherwise|0 Too bad all these travel bans are in place Id really like to defect to another country rn|0 this is just one big international boating accident|0 Honestly I wish I knew|1 The scary part is that those cases from today are also very critical and will probably have at least a 10 fatality rate cases dying today are probably older cases from days ago|0 The death rate may be significantly higher upon reinfection|0 They should be warned then charged with manslaughter if they leave|0 Zhou would have beat the piss out of Lu Bu Prove me wrong|0 why there havent been more international deaths Because no international health care systems is clogged to the point of disfunction by cases It wont take much though as fully staffed hospitals with hundreds of empty beds dont exist|1 Even though I have been dislike him very much this is the very move we need at this very time Really appreciated I wish him and Sophie Trudeau the best|1 USA is more likely to pay a contractor to provide you with basic needs This is because 1 we are allergic to giving out straight cash even thought libertarian rags like The Economist claim its more efficient and humane 2 it allows connected people to profit|1 Some people thin she should retire so she csn live a better life Democrats are going the poor lady to stay I feel bad for her She is being used and will die with no one loving her|0 American student taking a semester in Barcelona here Absolutely fuming at my study abroad program and home university Emailed my program director today stating my concerns and desire to go home early due to a lack of action taken Got a generic reply essentially saying Spain is still considered level 1 by CDC so we will continue with the program as planned We are monitoring the situation daily Fuck them Im planning to scrap the semester and fly home Friday or Saturday|0 Sending positive vibes hope everyone stays safe over there|1 not working for me either it might have received the good ol reddit hug of death|1 Yes Thats a trigger to a great depression Once in a 100 years|1 Yes youre right Mississauga Superstore in Costco Im not the only confused one here lol|1 party committee secretary To make it more understand you can also translate it as local party chief|1 Thanks it looks like it came out 220 after the article I posted 90 similar in the Sprotein but nearly identical in the RBD is interesting It looks like they were being misquoted in the media accounts and only claimed 99 similarity in one particular region|1 My husband is a trucker and he is on the road right now delivering fruits and vegetables Its a crazy hard job with a lot of injustice but somehow he still loves most of it I am worried about him but thanks to your post at least I know some people actually appreciate what he is doing|1 This is a fantastic resource thank you|1 if they keep treating them like stupid people they will act like stupid peopleThats because most people are stupid people Not just stupid but selfish too Its no surprise the US is trying to keep panicking idiots at a minimum its obvious how people will react|0 If hes positive hell either be dead or recovered in three weeks Well see|0 There was absolutely a COVID19 positive patient that the CDC royally fucked up with They released the infected patient into the public in San Antonio Texas before the 3rd test result came back The patient went to a hotel and a large mall in Texas shopped for 2 hours and ate at the food court before the CDC realized their mistake At least 19 people were believed to be exposed to the patient and are now being monitored The mayor of San Antonio declared a public health emergency on Monday and issued this scathing responsehttpswwwcnbccom20200302cdcreleasedawomanintexaswhotestedpositiveforthecoronavirustotallyunacceptablehtml We simply cannot have a screwup like this from our federal partnersNirenberg said While the CDC is encouraging everyone to wash their hands and prevent the spread of the virus as we would during the season I would encourage the federal administration to not wash its hands of the responsibility to protect the public|1 I expect Im not the only person here whod like to hear what you think the media isnt saying|1 Wtf people did that|0 If it takes 14 days to show signs And they catch it late in quarantine And there isnt any continued monitoring after release How effective can it be seriously asking I dont know|1 Everyone who is getting dried beans who has never made dried beans before should be aware that many dried beans need to either soak overnight with throwing away the water or have a quick soak after boiling This is especially true if using a slow cooker The concern is a natural poisonous chemical called Phytohaemagglutinin which requires soaking or quick soak after boiling to get rid of the poison This is especially true for red kidney beansCheck out links like this for more info or web search for Phytohaemagglutinin and beansReally make sure you are cooking your beans correctly as to not get very sickhttpwwwchoosingvoluntarysimplicitycomcrockpotsslowcookingdriedbeansphytohaemagglutininhttpwwwchoosingvoluntarysimplicitycomcrockpotsslowcookingdriedbeansphytohaemagglutinin|1 Waiting for FTSE to close at 1630That seems to be a pattern with releasing the figures whenever theres a big jump If its close to or over 500 shit is going to hit the fan|0 Do you basically hear the Contagion soundtrack permanently|0 I just read a thing about why people are buying lots of toilet paper Its a psychological thing and when people go to the store and think I gotta stock up in stuff they see TP and see that they can fill their cart with it for 20 and psychologically they feel like something is in control because their cart is full and they feel less unprepared It would take a lot of canned soup or some other product to fill a shopping cart but things like TP and paper towels can fill a cart quickly making them feel theyve bought a lot of supplies for the pandemic|1 Yes According my a couple of my friends who are from military families military is preparing for a possible outbreak|1 Were more of a winner take all and win at all costs economic model Giving benefits to the peasants I mean workers is not part of that model|1 They dont test because if you dont test positive you cant be part of the statistic|0 Doctors infected in France UK and now Japan This one is scarier though no known source of the infection|0 Ok andWe already have dozens of stories from every region that people everywhere are selfish bastards Leaving a loophole open for them to fly to the US by way of the UK doesnt make senseHoping people do the right thing isnt a strategy|0 The head of homeland security testified yesterday that the fatality rate for influenza was around 2 so Id say the standard is set at incredibly stupid|0 but to answer your question yes its bad|0 This is the right answer My work doesnt give a shit about us however I was speaking with our HR director today and he stated that eventually it will become an OHSA issue and people coming in would be considered an unsafe work environment|1 Youre also forgetting the other possibility which I never see posted here When it comes to a virus with no vaccine or cure there is two schools of thought either go at the virus aggressively which will drag out the lifespan of the virus or allow it to run its course while mitigating issues reactively Think of two bell curves One lower and longer and the other higher and shorter Were chosing the high short one and probably banking on warm weather slowing the virus Even with a vaccine we have 2040 thousand deaths a year from the flu Another huge difference is the laws of the USA and the laws of China The response China had to the virus would be absolutely positively impossible to implement here The only option the government has is to do what theyre doing It was never contained by China stopping all international flights wasnt ever an option and even the Wuhan ban was met with criticism of racism When its all over people wont be saying anything about preparedness weve been prepared for this since the cold war Its about realistically approaching the impact of the virus with a focus on using resources efficiently|0 Now that would be a huge hit to literally everything but if this was a serious 50 of people die and just as contagious as the flu then it wpuld be the best option to nip it in the bud|0 I have an RX580 and I only get CPU tasks Rosetta may have Nvidia GPU optimization|1 Well there are 20 cigarettes in a pack 10 cigarettes a day is still one almost every hour assuming 8 hours of sleep So youre either starting shortly after waking or your smoking like a chimney later in the day|1 If you search there is a study from 3M and many others that found that N95 do filter particules even smaller than viruses more easily than bigger particules because of electrostatic|1 Im trying to make a post on this sub but its saying you cant post hereBut I just need people to talk to my wedding is 60 days away Im in the US Should I be panicking|0 honey I work in a level 1 trauma Center where do you work When is the last time youve been in a hospital When is the last time that youve treated a virus When is the last time that youve treated any kind of infectious outbreak in a sheltered inpatient settingThats why youre not catching on|0 Ah yeah you are right Fixed thanks I will continue to improve the translation later tonight when I have more time or if Qiushi releases a new video I will make a new translation so people can keep up with the news|1 Haha yeah like 10 min later they announced our first case Lol|1 or killing MILLIONSYour in a thread talking about half a mill dying in the US alone Millions dying world wide is a safe bet|0 American here same thing except most of these people also try to relate it to Trump somehow since all of his crowd thinks its a hoax|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Hey Okay this makes me feel better I hope you get better|1 I had 2 friends that were hospitalized with the flu back in December Symptoms were very similar to coronavirus pneumonia trouble breathing etc One of them is Filipino the other Venezuelan|0 Yeah but top brass are getting infectedThats like saying they spray chem trails to kill people Rich people arent lizzards They breathe our air Drink our water and also rely on industrialized supply chains to surviveBillionarea hate this disease Its destroying their wealth both in the stock market and in risk uncertaintyI dont think you know what youre talking about|0 sure |1 Well now Tom Hanks and his wife have the virus and are not feeling great|0 not to mention saudis have no notion of soap|0 i am working for a big company in Badenwrttemberg We are prepared All employees5k can work from home now if we have one case the company will be closed|1 they better be wearing full hazmat suits when i pull up|1 Interesting Texas seems like the complete opposite|1 They dont have hypertension listed but thats a big one from the China studies Nearly half the country has high blood pressure|0 Reporting on individual cases is now pointless its clearly spreading through the Australian population not just from travel|1 can you source please|1 Other response to your question is correctTechnically very different but frequently used interchangeably in popular mediaTo further illustrate Malaria is an infectious disease but it is not contagious from person to person Malaria is spread by mosquitos it cant be caught by coughing kissing sneezing sex etc HIV is an infectious disease and is contagious when not suppressed by antiviral medications HIV can be spread from an infected person to noninfected person by exposure to vaginal fluid semen blood or breast milk|1 Do these arrogant fuck HCWs know what asymptomatic transmission is Mother of God|0 ZeitFocus Spiegel Sddeutsche A lot of paywall protected articles about the corona virus|1 No you have sense I dont have kids and such but I believe we should limit a lot of contact Keep stores open and other essentials open for fewer days a week You could say this will cause panic but people are already panicking|0 I think people lose their benefits too 40 hours jobs turn into 30 or 20 hours job hence consider part timePart time jobs are worsttrickle down economics I think this is what they truly meant|1 I feel strangely calm Its a massive engineered social cleanse Pay your tax and well keep you alive Get old or sick and we dont give a fuck Welcome to the future|1 Yeah my husbands fire department just announced in an email they only have 200 n95s in stock They were requested to count all the masks they have on their rigs They are masking for every call one hour from the kirkland wa outbreak those masks will be gone in no time |0 They should also kick them off of Amazon for ever|1 Right Lol|1 Japan closed all its schools for a reason The need to cancel is already clear You dont host huge international sporting events during a pandemic Common sense|0 Its an interesting theory but it feels a little too Machiavellian for realworld behavior I think Chinas behavior so far can be adequately explained by the political dynamics present in the country First the emerging situation gets downplayed by regional administrators Then it gets serious and word gets around social media fast that people are dying This is followed by growing unrest and blame openly being placed on the govt by some pretty heroic bloggersThe national govt gets involved blames the regional admistrators for incompetence disappears the bloggers and then proceeds to overreact to make up for lost time and show they are doing something Also the steep quarantine policies have a convenient side effect of also putting the govt in position to quell any civil unrestPRwise they are managing internal optics to their own populace Letting the story stay this was really serious exacerbated by corrupt local officials who are now under a bus and your national govt has stepped in and fulfilled our duty by protecting you from this very bad thing which is now slowly getting better and will soon be behind us The narrative got this way by chance but now the govt has no reason to change it as it serves their needsLast year I read an interesting explanation by a Chinese person about how the average citizen feels about their autocratic govt Interestingly the thesis was the people arent somehow cowed in fear rather theres more of an implied contract where the govt says we need this draconian power to make good things happen and stop bad things The people generally accept this and support the party because the standard of living for the avg person has increased a lot in recent decades but if the govt is perceived as not fulfilling their end of the deal then the dissatisfaction under the surface emerges quickly and the govt is aware of this|1 I have ulcerative colitis and taking Octasa which is antiinflammatory tablets So im probably screwed|0 Not going to take your word for it Im afraid Need actual evidence that your friend isnt just one of the crazies in this sub|1 Virus outbreak with the numbers of infected and dead rising by the hundreds everyday more than 700 million people quarantined in their homes and what do we do Censor the already censored internet with even more restrictions brilliant What a great leader|0 Needed this laugh They need to rerun this|1 Sorry Chris The behavior of people is generally fairly predictable and a lot of it sucks under stress It has been said ie Schopenhauer and others that many people respond to unpleasant truths in a predictable way First they respond with ridicule Then they respond with anger Finally they respond as if the unpleasant truth was obvious all along It strikes me as a small minded emotional response but it is as it is The lighten up mate sort of responses you got here are just more of the same That the dismissive people are here reading at all shows concern and that concern gets channeled predictably for many A further concern I have is that the aggressive ridicule you have experienced will become more aggressive and more angry before it morphs into acceptance You can look at the antiAsian sentiments that have been acted upon as but one example This is at the root of why our authorities are lying to us Look at how people behave They are choosing order at the expense of many to try to secure what they can Im not saying whether I agree or I dont Im just pointing it out Peace|0 I was an idiot for thinking someone could be held responsible for intentionally spreading germsYou should then get to spit and shit in his food and cough in his face if you cant be held responsible for him getting the flu COVID andor ecoli|0 Considering many upper middle class and wealthy have the ability to work from home have sick leave have savings etc this will disproportionately effect the poor|0 Link to wiki on testinghttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCOVID19testing 10 nations with most testing outside of China as of March 14 2150 ESTCountry Total tests Positive Tests Tests per millionSouth Korea 261335 8086 2820Italy 109170 21157 5054Russia 76963 NA 524UK 37376 1140 563USA 19744 1832 60Taiwan 16911 53 711France 15018 1784 224Japan 12919 714 102Belarus 10500 27 1104Canada 10174 NA 269|1 Youre welcome|1 I bet that went down well with them|1 True very true Aside from necessities though bars retail outlets etcthey all need to close|1 There is also growing evidence such as from the Diamond Princess studies that frequency of exposure duration of exposure and viral load may impact severityIts what I wonder about Would it be wise to be infected by a small amount of the virus the smallest possible even and then get over thatAlsoWould it be wise to let a bunch of lowrisk young people be voluntarily infected with a small viral load of this disease let them get over it then get some of their antibodies to treat others|1 Assuming youre in the US can you give me a relative location for where youre at Need to make sure we arent going to that clinic|1 Limited supply|0 Thanks for ukn0thing|1 On average the US is much more unhealthy Obesity high blood pressure diabetes This virus is going to rip through America like that twister in TN|0 The accident was part of Taiwans secret nuclear program|0 No better place to spread a virus than a trauma center right Ugh|0 The more we flatten the curve the longer we have to have reduced social activity to keep microoutbreaks from happening There will be some level of disruption for a long time|0 The crematoriums in Wuhan announced that they are working 724 because of high demand Which is a bit scary edit I was buzzed 724 247|0 Is it possible to get a Microsoft word version of this Id like to edit a few bits due to the unusual layout of our frontback door Thanks|1 Still better than Boris gambling on horse races among crowds|1 Ahh right okay oh wow 2 months ago and they only got back to you yesterday i thought it was a 5 week wait also I have a feeling the waiting list time is going to shoot up theres gunna be a big wave of people applying in these coming days weeks|1 Did he kiss the lady with the virus too|1 Just think its worth noting that that quote is in reference to a nursing home where cases are the worst|0 I live in a small city north of MiamiWent to reluctantly pick up tacos bc my girlfriend wanted some As Im walking up to the restaurant I see an elderly couple sitting out front AND BOTH OF THESE MOTHERFUCKERS ARE HACKING UP A STORMAt some point Im just gonna let idiots be idiots|0 This disease could have been named OK BOOM19|1 Part of the difficulty is that some places with known COVID19 infectees on ships dont separate out cruise ship infectees keeping them in totals and in the US the CDC actually does separate reporting tallies per state on reportable illnesses like COVID19 To complicate things further and no this is not just an issue restricted to COVID19 you often have three or more separate jurisdictions involvedthe actual flag country of the cruise ship which is quite often a flag of conveniencehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFlagofconvenience the jurisdiction of the port its entering or prohibited from entering and the national jurisdictions of the people who caught the crud to begin with Not only this but you have maritime law involved as wellAnd yes this would apply to the coronavirus cruises The Diamond Princess formerly flew under Bermudan registry and now operates under UK registry despite its parent owning company Carnival Cruise Line being based in Miami and Princess Cruises offices being in Santa Clarita CA and the Westerdam being under Netherlands registry despite again Carnival Cruises owning Holland America and Holland Americas main HQ being in Seattle WAThere are a number of practical reasons why USbased cruise companies actually have flag operations elsewhere In the case of the Carnival holdings a LOT of it is due to Carnival buying up other cruise companies in similar fashion to how HewlettPackard grew in the 90s and 2000s both Holland America and Princess were formerly Netherlands and UKbased lines before the Great Borgings Part of it too is due to differences in regulations between countries with Panama and the Bahamas historically having fairly friendly registration regulations combined with US laws that prohibited openjaw cruises beginning in one US port and ending in anotherhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiPassengerVesselServicesActof1886So in essence with someone from the US that caught COVID19 on boardyou have potentially four to five separate agencies to deal witha The US government who may be trying to repatriate the passenger and possibly get them into CDCmediated quarantineb The flag country in the case of the Diamond Princess the UK which has its hands a little full with the sorting out of the Brexit thing in the case of the Netherlands both Netherlands AND EUwide health regulations relating to COVID19c The port country or countries including Japan including the ports that refuse to allow potentially infected ships to enter portincluding most of the South Pacific at this pointd International quarantine regulations which can be impacted by the WHO declaring states of emergencyAnd the WHO actually gets THEIR statistics from UN member countries who each may have their own methods of epidemiology and their own way of counting the infectedincluding systems like the CDC which relies on states reporting figures and countries like Australia which dont have directly a CDC equivalent and likewise are reliant on state public health programs to report figuresAs for why the WHO isnt doing this all by their lonesome Well we dont have a world government yet in part because there are people in the US and some other countries that are really vehemently literally religiously in some cases Opposed To Such A Thing You still have folks in the States that to this DAY think the United Nations is somehow going to be the seat of government for the Antichrist itd be next to impossible for WHO to actually do its own itemized census of who caught COVID19 where and to have enforcement ability to GET this info without someone literally not figuratively literally claiming this was the Mark of the Beast|1 Its almost like people with more money and power have greater access to resources|1 Im focusing on the results We dont have the results of everybody yet The problem has been that it takes alot longer to get better than to die of it So the data was skewed towards showing more deaths As time keeps going well see more and more recoveries So it helps to see the odds of death vs full recovery|0 Its a story of money again Bad test but good money|1 Its always politics when someone disagrees or critiques yall huh|0 Does Twitter respond to reports of scientific inaccuracy They dont seem to care about Nazis unless they use the word fuck|0 Thank you for the info and being open to questions Since they seemed to have skipped animal trials is there a more accurate estimate of when this vaccine will be available to the public I kept hearing that it would take more than a year|1 You implying a healthy individual can drop dead from multiple organ failure from this virus is the stretch to me|0 For more information about N95 respirators and general preparedness you can read our Wiki pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFluwikiindexpreparednessCDCs recommended guidance for extended use and limited reuse of N95 filtering facepiece respirators in healthcare settings httpswwwcdcgovnioshtopicshcwcontrolsrecommendedguidanceextusehtmlStudies suggest that the correct use of P2 masks or surgical masks is effective in reducing the spread of respiratory viruses httpswwwijidonlinecomarticleS12019712280829010084fulltextI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Have you ever lived in rural China or talked to someone who has and has actually experienced the experience the culture first hand Most of these wild animals are not caught and eaten by random rural civilians for convenienceWhile there are cultural misconceptionstales about the great properties of certain wild animals are widespread most of the are not easily found in the wild and are exorbitantly expensive Pangolin scales prices for example had increased to 600kg by 2016 and has no doubt increased since then In 2018 the average per capita disposable income of rural households was about 2000 USD a year Luxury goods like sharkfin and pangolin scales are not bought and consumed by the poor but actually by the eliteSpeaking of the elite I think you are under a false expectation that they have high academic or scientific knowledge or just are less superstitious This isnt necessarily true because a large population of the elite made it in the last couple decades and the loss of progress from the cultural revolution has not caught up yet|1 I know several people with rooms in their house dedicated to firearms Like 1000 gunsAlso its like people dont realize how cool Bowie knives are Or what about the avid bow hunting population in America Wolverines|1 From what I know Australia was growing its viruses 10 days after it was detected|1 Thats what regular anxiety is for Thats normal selfpreservation When you have a disorder its because you have panic responses that are inappropriate to the stimuli I also have GAD and theres definitely a difference Im nervous about this pandemic Im sad for all the people who will die But Im not panicked I know what panic feels like and this is not it|0 Think the mod or admin whatever needs to do it idk CDC Guidelines should have this in them but they dont unless you can find it listed|0 MA borders CT though and the SpringfieldHartford metro area is somewhat continuous They even share an airport|1 Government is not in position to advise otherwise because there is NOT enough masks for everyone People would start panic BTW no one with an ounce of credibility can state in one breath that masks dont work but at the same time medical staff should wear them for their own protectionseriously|0 According to 3M the reusable masks with disposable cartridges can last a whole pandemic wave due to the significantly lower particulate count in normal air Regular P3 EU spec the same as US N100 are designed for high particulate environments like woodworking where theres a ton of dust in the air If you are commuting to work you wont see anything like that concentration so it will last a LOT longerhttpwww3mcoukintlukohessegmentshealthcare9666aOHReusableTechBulletinlftpdfhttpwww3mcoukintlukohessegmentshealthcare9666aOHReusableTechBulletinlftpdf Obviously you have to be a lot more rigorous about sanitizing the mask between uses to avoid contamination Thats obviously not an issue with disposable ones|0 Unfortunately i think UE will do soOur economy is already bad With this kind of restrictions things will get worse|0 In favor of and not out of the question are different sentiments|1 Theres a big contingent of this sub who basically want the government to order everyone to shelter in place for the next month two whatever it takes for the risk of the virus to be essentially eliminatedIt ignores the reality that our economic activity creates the taxable resources that our government can deploy against this pandemic Every time we take more containment measures that reduce infection transmission but also limit economic activity while also requiring government spending we also reduce our longterm arsenal available to fight the pandemic and weather its effectsIts a horrible balancing act that needs to be played and ultimately trades off potentially thousands of Canadian lives taken by the virus against deep disruption and damage to the livelihoods of millions of Canadians more broadlyIts fucking brutal and there wont be easy answers as we go through it|0 Thank youThat is what is hard Millions sounds scary Then another says 78 million while some else says 250 million I maybe need to get off Reddit and just listen to official reports from the WHO or CDCEdit also that you for the last little bit That is very true and something I need to remember|1 Those who are positive and asymptomatic are part of the mild designation Am I just misunderstanding your point No country to date has the mild designation way fucking higher than 80 1420 per country are requiring admission to the hospital|0 Like anyone else would do a better job with the Buccos|1 Did you watch the press conference with the families of the Kirkland nursing home patients They arent even really testing and quarantining those elderly patients Theyre just basically waiting for them to die one by one or get severe enough to be taken to the hospital|0 I dont even think its laziness its apathy and lack of class consciousness People just dont care because theyve been trained to think a certain way since childhood When you tell someone that the way theyve been thinking for so many years is wrong or harmful to progress they get defensive and dont want to hear it We have the means of improving education inequality and more but people are kept under control and are unaware theyre being exploited|0 Much needed with their crazy herd mentality strategy|0 You missed the memo Anything is better than nothing|1 Air travel to China is currently experiencing heavily discounted rates|1 That actually gives me some hope It sounds like some enlightened Drs are actually trying to deal with this as opposed to living in denial|1 I dont make bad decisions based on poor understanding of statistics Have a good day kid|1 Please noteThe CBC should not be compared to the BBC CBC is politically funded where the BBC is directly funded by taxThat being said i am actually shocked the CBC let this through their editing department at all I guess it is a month late so that sounds more like the CBC|1 Id take a surgical mask over nothing any day of the week And were almost out of N95s So any help is appreciated|1 ehhhhhh yeah people who still do reckless stuff like flying helicopter doing dangerous sports free solo etc or whatever after having kids are really dumb|0 in the weekend were 100 confirmed Yesterday 400 today 700 Monday will be over 1000 confirmed cases in Germany for sure|1 You can get a UV light phone sanitizer on amazon pretty cheaply I put my credit carts ID etc in it as well|1 Dude there was someone in Pujab India who ran away from the hospital when they tried to put him in isolation|0 THE BEST WHAT Actor yesWhich one doesnt belong MLK Lincoln Mother Theresa Tom HanksYes hes a phenomenal actor the best But in the end hell be known as a phenomenal actor the best|1 No shit Its good for his business|0 There was a really good series on Netflix just checked its still there Afflicted and it was about all different people suffering from different illnesses chapter 3 was on Lymes Really educational|0 You are correct As a former CDEpi program manager we write our yearly cooperative agreements with placeholder funding streams around certain categories for funding and then get approved at the federal level What this does is create an empty funding pipeline from the federal level to the states with all the codes categories all set up By declaring an emergency a state governor then flips the switch that allows him or her to request funding from the federal level With Congress allocating 85 billion the other day the funding reservoir has been filled The declaration is like opening the spigot at both ends so it can flow I wrote in Covid 19 with more detail and an example likely being used right now|1 Cool wont have to pay my mortgage for a few months while the economy is in the shitter and in exchange theyll raise my taxes Im sure they wont keep the increase in place once the situation is back to normal rightI guarantee you that any temporary allegedly temporary anyways measures put in place in the US will not benefit the people like the stuff you see in other countries where theyre suspending mortgage payments or paying people to stay home with sick people Thats not how the US works As someone else put it we have all the disadvantages of socialism without any of the benefits and thatd by design|1 25 total in London Pretty sure that was misreported as 25 new cases out of the 30 originallyhttpsichefbbcicouknews624cpsprodpbB95Fproduction111155474ukcasesv2ncpng|1 Even better edibles All the high and no inhalants My friend got really bad asthma and had to stop smoking or even using his dab rig and he just switched to edibles lol so he could still get high and chill|1 The petition didnt do shit lol Anyone who thinks shitty online petitions have any kind of effect needs a realitycheck|0 Sadly I live in the county Cobb there two people who returned from Italy were announced with the virus last week the next county over has this sick teacher infecting x3 oh but wait there is more we are also receiving 34 people at our Dobbins base from a cruise ship that tested positive for corona They dont have it but they were on the ship with others who did And now they are 12 miles down my road I attend Kennesaw State University and they arent closing any schools in the area They originally only wanted to close the schools the teacher was at but Im sure glad someone encouraged them to close all Fulton County schools I am 100 certain several people have been walking around campus with symptoms its just a matter of time of if or when they decided to get testedMy professors are falling ill ALL THREE of my profs emailed us last night kindly canceling class regardless of our scheduled midterms they are already making accommodations for us to participate in class online Our school is kinda projecting a business as usual facade but even the teachers are starting to try and use their paid leave to dodge this shit and its sad|1 would that work without widespread infection wont countries close travel super early|1 Im sure he didnt get his soul back Its just that this is starting to make mathematical sense to them in a crisis this severe Ill take it|0 Putting a travel ban for citizens in Washington seems like a good idea No general population coming or going Only allowing commerce in and out In other words attempt to quarantine the state Note I live in WA|0 Translations needed both from Mandarin and as to what negative time means in a nonphysics sense|0 Thats the thing It really frustrates me that people cant weigh risk vs reward and dont err on the side of caution|1 The thing is he is technically right Car crashes throughout the entirety of history will kill more people than c19Its also technically true that mosquitos have killed more people throughout history than car crashes The socially retarded part is not understanding that being technically correct is absolutely no comfort to people who are frightened and about to lose loved ones Another part of that social retardation is not recognising the privilege his wealth gives him in avoiding and surviving c19 He isnt going to be crowded into Costco for toilet paper or denied a ventilator in an overwhelmed hospitalHes essentially saying that us the peasants are stupidI mean is there any evidence he is even good with STEM My understanding is that he was in the right place at the right time with Paypal He employs brilliant people doesnt mean he is himself|0 Ive been a nurse for 12 years Percussion is often delegated to family and has been for the last 50 years You should read about the history of it Your attitude and arrogance is an embarrassment to the profession I sincerely hope that you dont last long as a floor nurse and move on to something else|0 Like others said it cant happen to me mentality Even when people look at the devastation in Nashville so many of them are so distanced from it They cant imagine it happening to them therefore it cant and wont It always happens to OTHER people So many Americans have never experienced much more than discomfort in their lives Most of us dont know what actual fear and suffering and pain feels like Dont get me wrong plenty do But Id put money on the vast majority not|0 If you go to China at this moment you will be forced to wear a mask even if you are not sick A lot of us dont wear mask unless we are sick Japan and Korea and Southeast Asia countries arent ready to visit yetAnd you dont have people telling you that sUrGiCal MaSks ArE uSeLeSs|0 Im not sure how much putting in the nonwoven material for DIYcloth masks will help though and might just be an additional material May be able to absorbblock some droplets and I mentioned them because that what the video had But dont count on them for actual filtration The maskmaterial wont form a perfect seal compared to N95 masks and those repurposed material wet tissue probably dont have good filtration efficiency as its not their job On Chinese and I suppose others websites they do sell nonwoven meltblown material but I expect there to be delays in shippingIve torn open a used then washed 3ply surgical and reusable N95 non 3M since the classic one is just one large filter material masks to see whats inside and how its constructed Might make a video with them|0 Typhoid Mary is unfairly maligned shes the I have no choice but to go to work because I have no healthcare or sick days example of her time|0 I dont disagree Im just saying I am trying not to get my hopes up Like I said I look everywhere I can as often as I can for stuff on chloroquine I want it to work and work well If we look at Chinas numbers again it comes back to believing the CCP going way way down with regards to deaths is a good sign As is the fact they are making the stuff as fast as they canIf you take a very cynical mindset that chloroquine is too cheap to make a profit off of you can see why remdesivir a drug developed less than a decade ago at a school near my house even that is probably expensive as hell is being pushed|1 The four Horseman busesI really dont like that name guys xD|1 That is what I am talking about That is an extraordinary claim with no proof Your post will not be readded I find obvious disinformation appaling I started the internet yesterday thanks|1 So you just wanna die I dont want society to collapse and I certainly wouldnt want to be the one picking up the pieces But Im not gonna just give up and die if things get hard|0 Feels like a step in the right direction If the business are closed at least those employees have a choice whether they go out I feel bad for their paycheck of course but there are no easy answers|1 Idk vague maybe but still doesnt sound like a blatant political jobWe therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time The social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound Many countries have adopted such measures already but even those countries at an earlier stage of their epidemic such as the UK will need to do so imminently|0 What do you even gain from talking like this His tweet about the panic being dumb implies it too But what do you gain So stupid|0 Title Vitamin D deficiency contributes directly to the acute respiratory distress syndrome ARDSSource httpsthoraxbmjcomcontent707617shortFindings Vitamin D deficiency plasma 25OHD levels 50 nmolL was ubiquitous in patients with ARDSConclusions Vitamin D deficiency is common in people who develop ARDS This deficiency of vitamin D appears to contribute to the development of the condition and approaches to correct vitamin D deficiency in patients at risk of ARDS should be developed|1 I think the more terrifying country is Bangladesh Have we heard from them|0 A 3 chance also means that out of a random group of 30 of either your friends relatives or coworkers there is a 72 percent chance that one of them will die Thus even if you do not die you likely will have someone close to you die|0 Simply put the warmer it is the less time is the virus active on surfaces For example at 4 C it can be active for 28 days while at 30 C it will be active for 12 days This is important because it shows that it is more difficult for the virus to spread in warmer climates There is a table in the article with more detailed data but thats roughly the main idea|1 Yeah man if a cop or a soldier in America sees you holding a gun theyd be like wow I better leave this guy alone Works every time Good planWho is the dolt that cannot shutup about guns I dont need your antigun rhetoric telling myths about how powerful the military and their grenades are that has to be the WORST antigun argument I have heard this year You clearly come from some crimeless country with immediately police response times where there is no need to protect yourself run by a government that is not power hungry HINT that country does not exist and whether you want to admit it or not your antigun views are leftist and liberal as much as you try to distance yourself from that trash political lean|1 Save the impressive sounding titles for someone else I know theyre not given based on merit in the UK And PhD math students absolutely are the onesEven if you ignore the letter WHO and all other health organizations in other countries agree with the math students|1 Trump has never once proposed a solution to cover uninsured people in America and has only ever tried to overturn Obamacare which expanded healthcare to almost 30 million Americans and expanded basic protections to the entire country Trump has been a disaster for healthcare reform in America and hes been a disaster for public health|0 Well I live in Seattle I have a first hand view While I appreciate optimism Im sorry to say not much is being done to prevent spread at all |1 If your income went away you obviously wouldnt be making too much for free insuranceUnemployment Insurance also pays 60 salary unless you were making 200000 already|1 The world has large scale flu outbreaks each year httpswwwwhointnewsroomfactsheetsdetailinfluenzaseasonalMost people recover from fever and other symptoms within a week without requiring medical attention But influenza can cause severe illness or death especially in people at high risk see belowIllnesses range from mild to severe and even death Hospitalization and death occur mainly among high risk groups Worldwide these annual epidemics are estimated to result in about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness and about 290 000 to 650 000 respiratory deathsIn industrialized countries most deaths associated with influenza occur among people age 65 or older 1 Epidemics can result in high levels of workerschool absenteeism and productivity losses Clinics and hospitals can be overwhelmed during peak illness periodsThe effects of seasonal influenza epidemics in developing countries are not fully known but research estimates that 99 of deaths in children under 5 years of age with influenza related lower respiratory tract infections are found in developing countries 21 Estimates of US influenzaassociated deaths made using four different methodsThompson WW Weintraub E Dhankhar P Cheng OY Brammer L Meltzer MI et al Influenza Other Respi Viruses 200933749httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed194534402 Global burden of respiratory infections due to seasonal influenza in young children a systematic review and metaanalysisNair H Abdullah Brooks W Katz M et al Lancet 2011 378 19173httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed22078723httpwwwbirdflubookorgresourcesSubbarao407pdf|0 ppl thought it was the chernobyl moment and then the rest of the world blew up and diverted Chinese peoples attention and now most are back into the national parade phase of singing praise for CCP it was interesting to watch|1 TranslationArticle ImagehttpsimgurcomjTfQdkcCoronavirus in Italy infections doubled in 24 hours we are the third in the world for the number of people affectedThe epidemic map 153 the infected Peak in Lombardy new cases in Veneto Piedmont and Emilia RomagnaMore than double the number of infections in 24 hours 76 to 153 The coronavirus advances leaving behind a trail of panic of pain for the three victims and of concern even internationally Italy is in fact in third place behind China 78811 cases of contagion 2462 deaths and South Korea 602 sick 4 deaths in the world ranking of outbreaks of Covid19 data updated to February 23 2020 Three days were enough to climb itAn evolving picture with increasing numbers in the affected regions 116 cases of contagion in Lombardy including 2 deaths with three positive ones in Milan one of which is a polyclinic dermatologist who was then treated at Sacco but there is apprehension for an employee of the Unicredit office subjected to analysis in the same hospital where tests are underway on 36 people 49 in Lodi and province starting from Codogno and around the town in the red zone 14 in Cremona six in Pavia three in Bergamo one in Sondrio and one in Monza The list also includes the three infected belonging to the same family brought by ambulance to Lombardy from a holiday in Trentino There is concern even if the Provincial Health Services Agency of Trento has started a series of investigations to reconstruct the familys movements he would not have had many contacts and would have spent most of his stay in a rented apartment on the plateau|0 Its said that the test is a pharynx test Its easy to be conductedbut on some stage the virus dont gather in their throat but in their inner body or eyesso Its not accurate|1 Make sure you have a few inhalers in reserve There will most likely be supply disruptions and you may not be able to buy an inhaler in a few weeksI read that the reason why older people get bad cases of pneumonia is because the coronavirus reactivates dormant pneumonia bacteria if you had pneumonia in the past And the reactivated bacteria are a lot more virulent than normal Kids usually are fine because they havent had pneumonia yet so there are no dormant bacteria to reactivate|0 Its sad How this virus spread around worldFirst china now Europe with ItalyPeople in Italia Be strong 18 corona case is in my Country Poland|1 yet people in my office think Im crazy for saying we should be working from home theres cases in my home county and its circling Philadelphia only a matter of time before theres thousands|0 Iran is about the same latitude as Mexico so yes in the northern hemisphere but not far Theyve been enjoying a UV index around 6 comparable to many of the US states in the summer time|1 Those half also have never read the constitution and cry about communism every time people tell them its not ok to use the poor as food|0 Are you seriously thinking all it will take is one yearIf we develop a vaccine within 12 to 18 months it will officially be the world record fastest created vaccine ever made by humanity After which they will not have 7billion vaccination on hand instantly they will primarily have to ration it ethically to those who are at highest risk and then to the healthy and that is another long process|1 No that would be your response|0 Keep in mind they been infected way longer|0 Fantastic|1 If he cared about the British people then theyd prepare for a complete UK quarantine and let this virus die|0 Maybe maybe not Chief doctors for both Italy and China have contracted covid and died While in the hands of the best|1 Cool dude Nice to read some nice news these days|1 Every store here is sold out of TP and disinfectants of every kind I can live just fine indefinitely without both of those things People have strange priorities Im actually completely out of toilet paper Bad timing on my part Im always prepped with the important things water food meds and cash I can wipe my ass with almost anything|0 What Ontario shut down all schools for three weeks Seems pretty serious to me|1 Because 10 upwards is the macic number that COVID specifically hunts|1 I PA resident have no plans on going Thats not my concern My concern is the amount of people that are going to go from this area to that contract the virus and then return to my area to pass it on to everyone they come across here If you cant see the issue with that then I dont feel like you have any place telling anyone anything about any virus|0 Or perhaps not even all hospital cases There was a care home employee talking on BBC News earlier about how one of their residents was in hospital with respiratory symptoms but was not being tested The hospital said they werent testing anymore|1 With people being asymptomatic for 2 weeks prior to showing symptoms if at all for the other 50 and the lack of testing in the US reserved for the rich or very sick its actually a positive sign that the mortality rate is the worst case scenario at the moment and somewhat reliable There were probably people sick in the US way back in January were infectious and just didnt show symptomsI think the biggest impact to that right now is how many unhealthy people it could infect in the US and we should see the effects of that in the coming weeks And hopefully our hospitals arent overrun that the economic impact doesnt break down society and especially that it doesnt reach a significant vulnerable population|0 Bwcause if they cancel the Olympics once theres a fine chance the world will go You know what Were good We just dont need olympics any more We have Minecraft now|1 In Italy we are freaking out seconds to anarchy|0 Looks like I see coffee filters in that picture Not as soft and not flushable but dont let the perfect be the enemy of good Its better than leaves|0 Id adopt a free speech is free speech unless you are purposefully hurting someone end of story anything else is not free speech|1 Theyve also had more recent experience with these kinds of outbreaks in another thread people were talking about how terrifying it was to live there during the SARs outbreak so thats fresh in their minds We havent had to deal with anything close to this magnitude in EuropeNA recently|0 The right thing is to criticize travel restrictions even after imposing them on themselves I get the Chinese care about themselves but to act like they did this selflessly I think is incorrect And was the local governments censorship not a reflection of the CCP and its values What about the wet markets that were allowed to continue even after creating SARS|1 You can also use data from a different day to calculate it to show the flaw The day they used for their numbers spit out a case fatality rate of 06 If theyd waited another day they would have gotten 066 Its not a huge difference sure but if its moving around that much in a single day we can safely assume it hasnt settled on a consistent number|1 the touchscreens at mcdonaldsI call them plague tabletsMy housemate goes to maccies regularly and last time Im not sure he washed his hands afterwards Next time Ill give him a bollocking if he doesnt because its irresponsible for his own and everyone elses safety|1 That rat situation sounds absolutely terrible Ive never had allergies in any of the three states Ive lived in My mom has bad allergies and Ive seen her suffer from them before This was different in my opinion|0 You said min not acceptable|0 I was curious and looked it up but cant find any KCKKCMO counties or zip codes on any lists Can you share your source|1 Lets be honest If half of what has been floating around is true then this is likely going to be confirmed as a bioweaponThis is textbook counterintelligence It probably wont get traction internationally but its worked domestically before Hopefully it wont this time There needs to be some accountability in all of this|1 My mistake I couldnt find the case report Found it here httpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191|0 A pretty good amount of the US population simply cant afford to stay home This disease presents itself as a cold for the first few days and for most people the symptoms never progress beyond thatDemocrats have tried changing that because of exactly this reason|1 Only 20 of employees are covered Most businesses are exempt from the requirement in one way or another There is going to be a lot of pissed off people when they realize this|0 I also am not sure it counts as panic when it is all but certain that we are going to see major disruptions to the supply chain that could inhibit our access to food|0 Worry isnt the of minor cases its a lot of people catching this where even a 2 fatality rate would be terrible I dont think people are looking at the big picture|0 To be honest I would rather die than end up with poor health in a nursing home|0 Does anyone have a chart or list showing the total number of infections deaths and recoveries by day|1 Good for them I am worried for all the flight crews How horrible it must be for them to be working with passengers from boarding in China Flights would eventually be grounded for the safety of the flight crew Not because of government intervention but because the flight crews will eventually put their foot down and stop working|0 Maybe theres a lag time or there arent any new cases BC didnt report anything on Friday after the explosion Thursday either And then they reported Saturday|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Um Bad math|0 Great post thanks Id appreciate an update in a few days to see how we are doing in flattening the curve|1 The last time they halted the NYSE was in 97 after a 500 point drop It was at about 8k so thats like the Dow dropping 1750 in 2020 Even if it did hit a 1750 drop we had a 4000 point drop in 2018 within a week because When the trade war happened US just pivoted and continued to do business as normal setting up alternate supply chains that will now be used as sourcing from China becomes even more difficult While theyll be some earnings misses it wont hurt us like it will for the global economy The virus spreading here is a whole other issue and yes that could become problematic|0 USA Nah Were still actively pretending its a hoax|1 Get a ticket to China deported Bang Now you got a testYou are likely to get a test in China as well|1 Im sick of the cuckolds on Facebook telling me its nothing more than a common cold and I just just do nothing|0 This leads to fewer mutations Indeed For people wondering why thats interesting and how they do it the genome of these viruses that they carry around in the particle consists of singlestranded RNA Ie they dont have a second strand to rely on that could help with fixing the sequence if a nucleotide was mutated In addition they have to carry their own polymerase that copies the viral genome Compared to most DNA polymerases these are very archaic Our DNA polymerases have something called 35 exonuclease activity which is important to chew back mistakenly incorporated nucleotides during copying Usually the viral RNA polymerases do not have such a function However coronaviruses might indeed carry it in their nsp14 protein This results in a decrease in error rate ie a decrease in mutations Note that these mutations are random in nature Thats why your second part is not true but usually more favorable mutations for the survival of the virusNo mutations in organisms are inherently random Notably most mutations are neutral esp if they are silent or negative only very few have a positive impact We do not see these mutations during sequencing though because they are selected against evolutionary term Ie they are less fit|1 And like most cities and countries around the worldJapan followed by South Korea have the highest ratio of hospital beds to citizens in the world Yet theyll have huge troubles if they got thousands of confirmed infections overnightIran like most other countries including Italy though they were immune to this didnt stop direct traffic from China didnt inform the population and didnt test people with flulike symptoms until they confirmed deathsBut numbers of deaths few hundred folds more infected and now theyre racing like headless chickens unprepared all they can do is mitigate by extreme measures like lockdowns while still accepting foreign trafficIf this happened tomorrow in NY or Paris or any other crowded capital You think it would be in anyway better handled|1 Im a layman butArticle is a metastudy of SARS MERS and other coronaviruses but not nCov specificallyIt suggests that very dilute 01 bleach sodium hypochlorite inactivates within 1 min but wet wipes benzalkonium chloride eg wet ones are not Good to know since Ive been using wet ones |0 Thats a bit of a stretch and an unfair comparison as it makes people cognitively compare rabies and cov Also theyve stopped using the Milwaukee protocol as its success rates are neglegent|0 Agree There was news about a couple that had made 90000 in Canada by selling Lysol on Amazon and all I could think was why did you tell anybody about your horrible business practices|0 Given that youre usually booking this stuff a year or more in advance making restaurant reservations 6 months before arrival and setting your initial fast passes 3 months in advance people will not be cancelling these kinds of trips at the drop of a hat Add the general lack of travel insurance coverage for those cancellations and you end up with a situation where people will not cancel these trips if only for cost reasons Disney parks are a health hazard at the best of times see the almost annual measles outbreaks you get from these parks and this is no different|1 Through dick virus unity|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could be entirely filled with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 There are currently no cases in your country now idk it depends on how bad it gets but id say possibly if you have people who travel there or anyone who traveled elsewhere|0 okay this sub is reaching unnecessary levels of fearmongering and horror story fetishizingI still come here for news but comments like yours do nothing I repeat nothing good for the community|1 These are peoples jobs too who dont want to lose their income Unfortunately its in their interests to not completely solve the problemsThis has to be the wildest take out there As someone that works in addressing climate change we get this throw at us too far too often and its ridiculousDoctors both MD and PhD in the CDC arent trying to protect their incomes by not completely solving the problems Its not like the world is short of communicable diseases to address and as we can see new ones can appear and cause havoc anywayThe CDC are being hamstrung by political interference and political appointees in the organisation toeing the line This problem isnt unique to the CDC either theyre dismantling your fight against climate change too|0 Wow No wonder this country is so divided I cant imagine thinking this about anyone let alone because they voted for someone I didnt like|0 Considering the key issue in most countries is overcrowding of the healthcare system that doesnt make sense for the current situation China is basically over the worst part already|0 Lolll relax Nancy Pelosi has enough vodka in her system to sterilize any virus that comes within 3 meters of her|1 Do we know that they wont be quarantined upon arrival Id hope and highly doubt they would fly people in directly from Wuhan and just let them scatter if they dont currently have a fever Seems like common sense to quarantine these people for the incubation period to verify they arent infected Not a bad tradeoff for a flight out of Wuhan|1 it is approved again|1 Where did all their disabled people go I wonder I dont know about China but in Soviet union the government expected the disabled to stay at home and never show up and they were shamed for showing up in public|0 Yea no doubt I started paying attention at the end of January|0 They kinda always build shit though They built entire ghost cities to prepare for a population that never came|0 seriously all this talk about work from home I fucking work with the public and see hundreds of people a day Also many other Canadians do too and if we get infected you bet your ass WE will be Italy x2This needs to be stopped now SHUT IT DOWN|0 What a trip I was sick with flu early feb Tested neg for flu a and b Sent home with script and felt better in a few days Curious to know if i have antibodies for this|0 Hey it was meant as a joke at first Truly though its fantastic it has a lower mortality rate in younger people Means doctors and engineers recover faster to help|1 This isnt entirely accurate Im in USA and under active quarantine and the health department has been extremely proactive in monitoring the situation|1 6340 6487 6503 6689 users here nowThe Canadians must be arriving after the presumptive positive announcement in TorontohttpsyoutubePxMtjn4A38|1 Great thanks for the references What an idiocracy|1 Meanwhile Italy stock market is up today The priority of humanity today is bizarre to say the least|0 Did he just not understand the ventilator math Wtf|0 I was totally kidding We absolutely should not be rioting I think John Oliver put it best when he said we need to set the president aside and help each other Something something God bless America I dont remember the exact quote but you get the jistIts imperative we maintain social order Civil unrest just puts exponentially more stress on all the essential services were going to need to make it through this thing|1 Wow a quote with not even a source Let me guess youll post one about Tom Woods too these have been addressed to death You dont have a clue You make yourself look like an idiot trying to discredit people and an institution by associations httpswwwlewrockwellcomlrcblogincaseyouwerewonderingNot wasting any more time on you|0 The new case is even more troubling Lady started having symptoms March 4th which means infection probably happened around Feb 29 and she has had no identifiable contact with any travellers and she worked while sick in a school|0 Boris is a stupid fuckface|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Typically having 13 months of on hand supply of this is doable The problem is what happens after that and what happens with the rampant theft that is occuring|1 You know I am starting to feel bad about not raising the alarm on social media I told every person in my immediate friend and family circle and even some former coworkers to prepare I see everyone on facebook posting about shortages and it makes me wonder if I should have warned them But then again I dont want people coming to me for handouts Its a weird feeling|0 Hes still a hero for the people he worked on mans a dr stop saying slave labor this man got racks stop dissing his death tallking bout victim wtf type or respect is that |0 They are doing it in Germany too I hope they get what they deserve This behaviour is straight up disgusting|1 This is the frustrating and unfortunate truth The hospitals just dont have the beds or room to admit everyone that tests positive for this The medical system simply cant handle the kind of numbers we could be seeingTrue but doesnt mean we shouldt get an official diagnosis We need data to track this|1 OK so you know how each person in the world can be linked to any other person in the world in a maximum of 6 relations relation of relation of relation of relation of relation of relation of relation Well then we can link you to that guy All that crazy anxiousness you pulled out of your ass applies to you tooGo into quarantine now Oh and skip the mall you ignorant selfish infected idiot s|0 Though the CDC did a lot to contain the coronavirus still so many cases Another proof that the figures in China are wildly underestimated|0 I was wondering this too There was speculation that the doctor who discovered this got hit so hard because he had so much exposure to the virus I also read somewhere that the droplets are more infective than touching surfaces which would make sense but this is also speculation I think we will just have to wait for answers while hoping some serious studies are furiously going on in the background|0 Its almost like the whole system is broken|0 Bloody hell|0 Thats not science Its completely different viruses You cannot just assume this one is the sameWhats disturbing is people thinking they know better then the CDC despite them having access to a much greater variety of information About THIS virus Not ones from the past|1 Theres literally nothing in the universe he could do to hurt his reelection chancesContracting a potentially fatal respiratory illness is one thing he could do that could hurt his chances|0 A 5 million initiative by a private citizen to help people in need with direct immediate and lifesaving resultsEqual to about 38 of President Trumps golf expenditures footed by US Taxpayers 130 millionOr 1 of the cost of Mike Bloombergs vanity campaign run 500 millionOne of these billionaires is not like the others|0 The Diamond Princess is even more ridiculous Here we have a perfectly contained exponential explosion of the virus and still to this day we dont have 100 of the ship passengers tested and no published learnings on transmission vectors The excuse of saying this is a Chinese cover up doesnt work in Tokyo|1 Yeah but I mean it could have spread in india Thailand Philippines or other countries with weaker heal care systems|1 Also US imperialism is killing people up to this day lol this shit is still happening|0 Shit bro where do you stay|0 ok boomer|1 Yes Look into why there are no vaccines for other coronaviruses Not to say its impossible but theres are numerous reasons|1 I remember the videos from China of people just collapsing in the streets We are about to see a lot of this in public here in the US I might start avoiding highways|0 I hadnt even thought of that but it seems exactly right According to wikipedia In 2019 a New York Times article reported that human rights groups and Uyghur activists said that the Chinese government was using technology from US companies and researchers to collect DNA from Uyghurs They said China was building a comprehensive DNA database to be able to track down Uyghurs who were resisting the reeducation campaign|1 consider the converse no travel restrictions|0 See Hong Kong They have a huge amount of brave support from their population and they still have no chance to win against China|1 Western Europe will suffer greatly Especially the Netherlands and UK since they do hardly anything against the virus|0 THB Im scared to deathNo You cant be scared to death That is worse that the diseaseAgain I implore you to stop consuming sensationalist media Instead read scientificfocused articles that discuss the issues free of emotion and hyperbole Relax this is extremely unlikely to affect you Take the disease seriously practice good hygiene stay home from work if need be but dont let your nerves get to you|0 Trump said that it is a real possibility and I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend so grain of salt though said person works at the Pentagon that yes they are considering quarantining major areas and that would include major highway blockades Godspeed|1 Im at a wedding this weekend and wore a mask People rolled their eyes at me and told me I was just being dramatic and even youre just doing it for attention But fuck me my 93 year old grandma is here If she gets sick from this theres no way in hell Im gonna let it be MY fault I dont care if I get it but shes who Im concerned about|0 Listening to LBC I hear a lot of callers saying we should shut things down nowNick Ferrari called one caller hysterical for suggesting this Many hosts are extremely dismissive using the figure of 600 infected to put down callers Despite us knowing the figure will be 10 times thatTime and time again they ask callers they disagree with if theyre medical experts When the caller says no they are also dismissedNigel Farage seems to be a lone voice in calling out the GovtIts no surprise that so many think things are ok After all its only 600 casesits only 10 dead|0 Might need to adjust that Im actually in a red zone in Oregon but it shows me as being outside of it 3 miles away when our county actually goes well past my neighborhood Though anybody who thinks 3 miles means there clear is operating under some serious delusions|1 Actually Korea hasnt reached a point where its medical facilities couldnt handle it yet It got as bad because of the cluster from the cult who spread it to other areas I am in Korea and when things got bad in Daegu doctors and nurses from all over the country volunteered to go there to help These included retired doctors and nurses|0 Hope for the best expect the worstIf it was only a handful of sources stating it was worse i would be more likely to believe that its complete and utter bullshit but theres just so many at this point in timeI dont know i dont WANT to be right but what if i am and were not taking this seriously enoughEspecially considering we have no actual fucking clue what its lethality is and just how dangerous this virus can be to the western worldChina is essentially a breeding ground for epidemics with customs like eating random animals not washing hands basically ever spitting and blowing snot out everywhere not having any actual knowledge of modern medicine thanks to traditional Chinese medicine all the unhygienic customs being perpetuated by social media and by calling them cultural heritage thus protecting them from criticism the wet markets the list just keeps going on and on and onIt might very well be that all of the reasons above might lead to an extremely skewered representation of just how badcontagiousdeadly this virus really is but the thing is we have no fucking clue if thats actually the casex200BTheres bound to be some truth to the supposed eyewitness accountsTheres so many and so much shady shit going on with the CCPSomethings off i just want to know what|0 Rightand Im arguing it would be better if the clean up never would be necessary in the first place The other person has been saying were better off with losing the lives and incurring the damage Makes zero sense how thats preferable to never having it happen No clue who or why Im being downvoted for arguing that|0 The CEO created the company Seems like looking out for 1 Unless heshes filthy rich I can understand that But I can also understand the result of that might be substandard work hostility and an end to the business HisHer choice|1 Im really glad I got mine this year and pushed my bf to get one super hard He has serious issues with needles and planned to avoid it I was there with him as he panicked during the shot but hes thanking me now Definitely dont need to get the flu and then potentially corona on top of it|1 Except workforce shortage is no longer a thing that happens because1 Automation2 Women in workforce remmeber when women started working in US this lead to wage decrease due to oversupply of labour3 largest immigration in the west history Times larger than colonization of america actually|0 Wear a mask and gloves Wash your hands like no tomorrow|1 Usually diseases are logistic so they look slightly exponential at the start but then Peter off about halfway through Its almost impossible to maintain that exponential growth for a long time since you run out of people to infect|1 Sorry my dude I hope you are doing ok If you live in NYC can I come get infected so I can not have it when hundreds of thousands have it and we are fighting for hospital space|0 China recently released new information regarding childrenThey also reported a sharp increase in the proportion of infected children 2 before Jan 24 to 13 for Jan 25 to Feb 5 P 0001 meaning that increased exposure for children and familial transmission could contribute substantially to the epidemicThe researchers noted that the steep increase could be attributed to the low proportion of children exposed early in the outbreak early detection for children who had had close contact with people with diagnosed or suspected infection after control measures were implemented or failure to identify the relatively mild signs and symptoms in children especially because resources were limited early in the Wuhan outbreakhttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003studyrevealssharpincreasecovid19kidsshenzhenhttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202003studyrevealssharpincreasecovid19kidsshenzhen|0 That is truehowever japan s Korea are both very dense society People use public transport all the time and everything is more communal Ive been both to Japan and s Korea and in big citieseverything is packed and crowded Idk about Italian society so I cant speak about that|0 Well the nba and several soccer leagues had players test positive|1 Ye Ill try to stay the more negative possibile|0 Ive been wondering about this I think it is already widespread in the USA for instance But if it is mild for the vast majority of the people they probably arent seeking treatment If that is the case does it matter if they think they have the coronavirus or a cold At this point Ive accepted the fact that this virus is going to be with us a long time|1 Every shop Ive been in in maidstone has had no hand sanitizer the boots shops now have a limit to 2 per customer even most corner shops|1 Considering how many Catholics think the current pope is heretical This would be more like the god fixing the situation than not acting This is further amplified by this virus starting in China after China started altering bibles to fit with communism|1 If in times of crisis I offer you potentially lifesaving information then snatch it away unless you cough up enough cash is that completely understandable or kind of a dick move|0 I needed this My anxiety over this is through the roof I try not to visit this sub all damn day long but I keep checking and checking and checking just to see what is happening Its all happening so damn fast andor the 247 news cycle and social media have amplified it to the max Im greatfull for the news posts that keep me informed but damn sometimes Im feeling completely overwhelmed Breathe|0 Got to take it in context Weve got 95 million respirators in our stockpileUS has 12 million plus 5 million expired ones httpswwwgooglecomauampswwwwashingtonpostcomhealth20200305washingtonstateaskedusstockpilecoronavirusmasksresponseraisesconcerns3foutputTypeampI think we can demand more while simultaneously acknowledging that were already better off than mostTo be honest my main motivation is that its probably the most effective way to get people to listen Throw a compliment then ask for stuff If you just go bashing ScoMo everyone politician or dude in the pub will write you off as partisan and push back You get better results if you sound fairly neutral And I desperately want people to listen to you Because youre right we need to do much more|1 Thats because nobody else is allowed to enter and exit Italy hence its pointless to even fly there They still dont care|0 Its almost as if the virus has a 3 mortality rate composing of mostly elderly people like reported since people started dying How many of the nonChinese who contracted the virus are 60 years old Probably not many|1 multiple fake videos you mean|0 Out of the employees We wont know how many of them will ultimately survive until a few more weeks pass Plus I can think of about 13 really good reasons why my goal is not to survive the virus but to never catch the virus in the first placeAs of today the entire state is reporting 16 deaths Coronavirus deaths in Washington now at 16 with 102 confirmed caseshttpswwwseattletimescomseattlenewscoronavirusdeathsinwashingtonnowat16with102confirmedcases|1 Someone had to play the Rock Hudson role in this saga|1 whats your point Its not relevant to my comment The best chance of stopping this is what S Korea Singapore and HK are doing Immediate action to find those who are sick isolate them and provide treatment Barring that the next best thing is widespread selfisolation social distancing and treatment for the illThe USAs lack of public access to healthcare and social safety nets ensure both of the above tactics are all but impossible|1 s1mple is up there in terms of personal success but not tournament successthe Astralis core is closer to Faker in terms of tournament accolades|1 Might it be an app issue I usually check Reddit on my computer and I havent had any issues lately In any case Reddits servers do crash often|0 Looks like a nice graphical tool all organized in one spot Hospitals and Depts of Health should be using or at least checking their own predictions against|1 once they inevitably get infectedAnd then these idiots will infect our parents grandparents and other loved ones leading to several of them to die simply because these dummies thought its just the flu|0 if someone has proof we leave it actually This OP linked an article from an okayish source so if you are like FuCk ChInA yea we delete it because you are actually contributing 0|0 So no ambulances going out to save people they can Basically all bets are off|1 They say the only reason they caught the community spread in BC was because a doctor disobeyed official orders and gave a test to someone who didnt have travel history I think mass tests for anyone with symptoms would help us all|1 My inquiry about 100 recovery after ground glass opacity wasnt meant to be a leading question Im asking from a position of zero medical knowledge I just genuinely want to know if there are any long term or permanent effects from this virus|1 Why risk the chance of spreading it Plus its probably all over Europe by now so youre risking getting infected|0 Formatting in this post is terrible Thought you were saying you believed all the stuff|0 And theyre going to have to die That more graphically the better If said celebrity of politician recovers and we get pictures of them smiling laying in a hospital bed mugging for the camera its going to send the message that oh its just the flu bro|0 They should put the entire globe on quarantine right now Stop all air travel lock down all state lines tell everyone to stay home for 30 days Starting right now Not just in the US WorldwideThe economic cost would be enormous but still cheaper than a permanent stop once this pandemic really gets out of hand and there are millions of sick people without insurance and not enough doctors or hospital rooms|0 Excellent thank you I will correct the copy now|1 Same here All takeout really Side effects appear to be more money in my account and generalized weight loss|0 Checking in from the heart of NYC on an ambulance on the front lines update ambulances are long out of N95 masks to protect crew all we have is surgical masks and in limited supply hospital dont have and wont spare any for us Supervisors will not talk to us complain about us asking for supplies and blindly state too bad this is what you signed up for not my problem I signed up to help the sick and injured and I dont mind that Im angry at how the supervisors and managers are approaching the situation Its in full crisis mode here and doctors and nurses are flush out of supplies|0 Theres a lot of science that says the costbenefit of shutting schools is negative|0 This is great news Feels good to see people helping eachother|1 Well this should change I agree Taking up a precious hospital bed for what could be a less serious case just so someone can say yes they are sick we can pay them is not what we need right now Companies should show some flexibility on this|1 Azathioprine sounds super weird its an immunosuppressive|1 I read news that China donatessends 10k Ventilators to Italy This is all fake|0 CONGRATS|1 Wrong The CCP has sent down the order that all regions must be cleared of coronavirus Therefore the local officals have send down to the order to doctors that they can no longer diagnose people with coronavirus The epidemic is still therex200BThey have also sent down the order that the economy must start up again so factories have been ordered to open this is checked by the local officals using the electric readings on the factories hence there are now a lot of factories with the lights and machines turned on but with no staffx200BWhat you have got in China is a chain of fiction You might think this is weird but this is how authoritarian regimes operate Its perfectly normal|1 Its always the poor people that get fucked and the rich get bail outs|0 I went to an assessment center yesterday Peel region and they had closed 3 hours earlier than advertised on the website I suspect they ran out of test kitsWas told to come back before 1000am and that the line for testing starts building at 0730|0 He needs to post his positions and show all his wealth in puts and shorts if hes so sure|1 Masks are not very effective and only 200 odd people out of 66 million have confirmed cases Wearing a mask right now is worthy of laughing Not the wcoughing though thats poor form|0 Good billionaire bad billionaire doesnt matter they will all start looking rather tasty soon the way the world is going|0 This is what experts said on tv here in the Netherlands yesterday That if they follow upscale protocal they can basically get the Dutch healthcare system to work double the capacity of northern italy Probably still not enough unless we take some serious measures|0 I think the problem is that all the official responses assume everyone is only looking out for themselves The risk for a specific INDIVIDUAL is reasonably low as long the definition of risk only extends to dying The risks for the COMMUNITY on the other hand are very high especially when you include the probable widespread economic impacts|0 Unless hes not a selfish asshole|1 Disgusting not what they are doing the fact that private companies need to do this EVEN in a damn emergency What the heck is the Government for|0 100 pass rate this year Well done guys|1 Just seems a bit odd to me Chicago had two cases in January early February and they recovered No other cases related to them even though husband took subway and flew to Ohio It just seems the timing of the new outbreak in US doesnt add up Its not like the virus just said hey Im done with China lets go to Italy now lets go to US People have had the virus in the US for a while we are just now reporting it|0 Its a testing thing right now The number of confirmed cases exploded in NY is only because they are starting to test people States across US are all way under reported If you dont test people you dont have confirmed cases This is too early to say which state has more actual cases out there|1 Nobody in China believes their lies why would they think anyone outside China willI guess this means they will bring back wet markets and we will continue to get new diseases out of China|0 Ive been saying for awhile the US plan of action is thus and Im being proven right day by day Go to work Get sick If you die you die Im embarrassed and ashamed of my government|0 They did He contacted Chinese doctors and they told him to take hydroxychloroquine and hiv drug and guess what he got better |1 Im a fan of the nose poke technique|1 I have thanked every employee Ive seen I truly am grateful for them|1 lol|1 I shared this sentiment too in the other discussion threadLarge crowds and essentially spitting on each other for hours via yelling and chantingA virusspreading haven|1 When I was in nursing school we would wear masks during our clinical rotations just as a general precaution I can tell you right now it takes a bit of practice to not mess with your mask consciously or unconsciously|1 Oh Can you post it to rcoronavirusWA too please I have a feeling things are going to get ugly here very soon Thanks|1 In exchange for our politicians sticking their heads in the sand and getting you killed we award you er your next of kin a plaque I hope they take care of the families|1 911 was just really shocking In an instant we were suddenly aware that there was a world outside of our borders and it wasnt just behind the TV screen And it was angry at us Our entire understanding of America as a safe invincible country had to be thrown away It wasnt just that thousands of people died its also that our worldview died with itThe coronavirus does remind me of the same dread we felt on 911 This is a much slower event though so weve had some time to process the sequence of events that are unfolding At least with 911 we had some naive confidence in our leadership to make the right choices In the years since then they demonstrated that they were some mix of incompetent and malevolent and the situation is still unresolved So one big difference is that we no longer look to the government for a sense of safety Instead we expect them to fully fuck it up|0 literally what my country has 500 confirmed cases and its been almost doubling every 3 days and no schools have closed so far the only measure my country has taken is dont shake handsour prime minister who shook hands with someone literally 5 seconds later|0 Unless youre independent where you get 0 as you have no salary right|0 Noooooo oh not good |0 Exactly How can we extrapolate total cases by looking at deaths then using known CFR to calculate how many cases must be out there while this thing is so heavily age skewedThe difference in case fatalities between young basically under 50 and older folks with underlying conditions is potentially two orders of magnitude Up to 100x And Im not even including 09 year olds for whom the CFR is assumed to be ZEROThis virus is so ridiculously skewed towards certain high risk groups that every assumption were building into backofenvelope models is off So few of the doomsdayers are adequately adjusting for age And those adjustments are so significant that they blow the math right out of the water|0 I dread going to work because my colleagues are all just a flu boomers|0 Well the virus was started by eating wild animals dogs could possibly be a vector for disease transmission Never can be too safe|1 Not really Chloroquine have imunomodulatory function as well Runaway immune systems kills|0 NOBODY will get tested at that price We will never have an accurate accountUSA healthcare will be done Im not a panicky person but I work in healthcare No one is really saying anything except its the flu|0 For green peas chop up onion Put onion green peas teaspoon sugar tablespoon salt and olive oil in saucepan If using fresh peas a tiny bit of water too if frozen omit water Close top of saucepan and simmer around 20 minutes or until cooked Throw in some chopped dill if you like Serve hot or cold|1 Id fucking hope its not ebola with 90 mortality rate Swine flu is 05 and didnt spread as fast Sounds like some ignorance|1 I dont understand people being racist against the Chinese people This is a virus that affects all humans and they are unfortunate to have been hit by it first How you can blame race for this is beyond me You have to be pretty simple to be this way about it|0 Ironic because it is the standard for video CD Many poorer countries or in humid climates used ithttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiVideoCD|0 ffs 500 in Switzerland but it seems like nothing is done around here All schooluniversities are still open my work still wants all employees to come to work although we could easily work from home|1 Yeah writing something may be good for us because he actually yelled at me for the first time in our 15 relationship That was scary|1 One case in how many We dont know what underlying conditions he might have Can happen with flu can happen with common cold This is not an evidence Nor is lack of cases like this an evidence the other way of course We simply dont know much and its better to be safe than sorry|1 Click that link for Average person on reddit and see if you can guess what I was pointing out by my saying soDid you know Reddit is fucking blocked in China Just FYIAlso this above Just curiousNow has been proven to be disingenuous so lets drop the pretense and you just say what you want to k|0 Is he the one who was in Entourage Hanging with his agent Saul who you better call in legal troubles|1 Patient zero for the NBA Rudy Gobert was making jokes couple days ago while he was sick and made sure to touch everyones mics in the interview room God fucking damn it|0 I definitely have increased to stay up to date but now I think it would be great if reddit had a filter to block all coronavirus related stories I think that will be important for mental health in the coming weeks|1 THEY ARE A WORLD POWER OF A BILLION PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT FUCKING AROUNDYoure right they fucked around until it got bad|0 I dont understand this You are telling me that gaming may save the world Please tell me this is real|1 Yes could def be Especially since Ive kissed and touched hands of approx 50people if anyone of them carried it even if they wouldnt have symptoms I could have gotten it And unfortunately I cant ask them it was a funeral with around 100 people attending and I didnt know half of them Big family Also a lot of them came from the area in the Netherlands with the most positive tests|1 Maybe it is a good thing that mall is empty Judging by what is happening across the border in Washington we may well have community transmission and not know about it Lives are probably being saved by having the mall empty for a few months|1 Huge opportunity here|1 No we wont Well turn it into a political issue Source am from the USA|0 Robot babysitters Benadryl would make an effective crisis childcare combination|0 I came here to post these same words Feels weird to say|0 WHO Reporthttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf Top of page 14Another WHO Reporthttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusesituationreports20200221sitrep32covid19pdfsfvrsn4802d0892 Top of forth page|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical 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employees Whether anyone is at the school or taking classes online the school is essentially making the same amount of money and is already able to pay its staff|1 Youre an idiot|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 About the same percentage as other countries and it will keep growing exponentially We are right on track with Italy and Iran who were both thought of as negligent and complete disasters in terms of preparedness and reactions|0 But not really China literally started and caused the virus because 1 they have the most vile conditions in their wet markets or 2 they created the virus in a lab and it leaked somehow There literally are no other ways this startedIt is more like Italy and the rest of the world besides China are the waves of the sea China is the giant asshole that came along and took a huge shit in that sea|0 By react I mean riots That would be bad for everyone|0 This will be botched and delayed just like the testing kits|1 It definitely has been unless they are just straight up lying|1 Same here in western North Carolina Denial is a powerful force and a CDC that drones on and on about hand washing flu is worse and only old people get it bad is not helping|0 Yes but this specific comment is talking about using them as a preventative measure which is why I brought it up|1 Oh yeah Well we had our copays waived so top that s|1 This is a misleading title One day doesnt really mean much and there are always outliers Also whats even their testing capacity at this point|0 They may see in time that they were wrong But that would require them to actually have half a brain|0 Yeah sure i was talking about calculations for yearly natural deaths|1 people saying your panicking will be the first to come beg for your beans when shit hits the fan|0 You spelled Canada wrong|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I cant wait until the whistleblowers come forth with embarrassing exposure of things Mike Pence decided to censor or intervene on Grab your popcorn Its an election year Dis gon be gud|0 I mean they technically would be godsgoddesses if we didnt understand medicine as well as we do Imagine what a modern day nurse could achieve if they werent tried for magic or witchery or some stupid crap if they went back only 200 years|0 So wait 20 got tothe hospital and the other 80 are so symptomatic they dont even need time off work Seems like there should be some wiggle room in between|1 What he is describing is known as the tragedy of the commons|0 Agree They are working up to it Today is previewing it|1 Arguably if your using 2 bottles of hand sanitiser a day then you got a problem|0 Fuck Jeff bezos|0 No but they did drastically cut funding cut the team responsible for handling outbreaks etcThe CDC messed up but what do you expect when you get rid of the people who know how to do their job and replace them with yes men and people who buy positions|0 Hi it appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the 2019 Novel Coronavirus outbreak centered in Wuhan China andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected This kind of post is more appropriate for the daily discussion thread on the top of the front page of this subredditWe here at rChinaflu recommend following the guidelines and advice given by trusted sources Your local 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recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I interviewed with a TMobile call center when I was just coming out of college I graduated in 2008 so I was pretty fucked when it came to finding jobs One of the questions they asked in the phone interview was not joking how many days Id missed work due to being sick in the past year |0 Ive been taking it very seriously since the last week of February Im not sure how youre getting that Im not Its just that there are so many better pictures to illustrate the point you were trying to make i was a bit dumbfounded|0 Im obese with hbp Im just doing my best to be isolated and glad Im in my early 30s|1 Take a 65 plant grow tent off amazon hook up ozone and uvc lights and then you have decontamination as you walk in|1 Why are you telling them who they hate They clearly hate doctors The hate may be irrational but thats who they hate|0 Classic Craig luck|1 Thats actually great|1 Holy moly people are doing that here Haha I thought I was taking it too far by singing happy birthday x2 rather loudly when washing my hands in public|1 Get a bachelors degree in a field youre interested in and during that time do your darndest to help out professors and their lab groups at your university to build your experience in research in your field Then most of the time you need to get a PhD in your field as well This is a total oversimplification but those are the basicsResearch and researcher are super broad terms Id say it mostly refers to scientists but you could also be a researcher in history law etc|1 But its a fairly safe bet that anything related to entertainment or leisure is nonessential which is why Ive listed these as examplesI can agree with that but youve got to be very careful about the grey areasPersonally Id say that tradesmen and builders should be allowed to complete all outstanding jobs as they could be considered essential whereas they maybe shouldnt be taking on any new projects right nowIts a difficult one as we also need to keep the economy ticking over wherever possible really|1 It will be like the Oasis of the Seas outbreak But with death Terrible idea Let them off self quarantine and monitor The Japanese generally are pretty good rule followers and obsessively clean And I can say that because Im nisei|1 Ive long since resigned myself that Im going to get it and all of the people I know are probably going to get it tooEspecially since everyone decided to go to the grocery store at the same time cause ya know we should stay away from big crowdsFun times|0 Plus add the problem with ignorant people who dont understand the virus and go about their life without any precautions My boss for instance upper 50s sneezes into his hands and then touches everything This is exactly how a super spreader shares with the population His ignorance will put others at risk if he gets the virus plus putting me my family and co workers at risk His attitude that it only kills the old and people with health problems makes me so angry because those people matter Why are so many brushing them off I just dont understand|0 buying a motel to isolate patients to Are you freakin kidding me Is that a joke Is it the best our rich and tech savvy county can doThats what Taiwan is doing for international visitors and its not that much of a bad thing|1 Even with flu CFR about 010 it is much more contagious and comes atop an existing bad flu season Good if that low but still a potential catastrophe that could easily overwhelm hospitals|0 Crazy how accurate some of the early headlines are Ill be considering making my way toward Greenland if it starts getting crazy|0 He is guided by his scientific advisers including the SAGE modellers Dont spread absurd conspiracy theories|1 I lived in England in the 90s in college and backpacked around Western Europe and after growing up in the US Europe was a real eye opener I realized just how insulated we were and the internet was just in its infancy back then as Americans and how little we knew about the rest of the world and how little I was taught in school It really blew my mind|1 From what Ive been reading its nicotine in general I vape but it seems that how you absorb it is irrelevant even chewing nicotine gum will increase risk|1 The findings that we are seeing with covid patients are ground glass opacities which means the airway spaces are partially filled with inflammatory debris dead cellshost immune cells This appearance looks similar on CT if the airways are partially filled with fluid like in patients with heart failureThe whiter the lung is in these patients the more inflammatory debris there is filling the airway That means less room to move oxygen into the bloodstream So I guess the more lung that is replaced by white the more scarier it appearsBut to me it just says theres an abnormality which is nonspecific and can be seen with other viral infections or noninfectious causeBottom line is take anything the media posts about these patients imaging findings with a huge grain of salt|1 Oh God I would be pissed I just got a vasectomy and Ill be damned if I went through that when I could have just had natures vasectomy a few months later Lol|0 What motivates an asshole like this One must wonder|1 students can skip a bunch of classesi think i skipped 30 of my classes and the best excuse i had was i was lazy had a solid A average despite thatfor decades afterwards i had this recurring nightmare that it was finals week and i forgot i even signed up for the class because i never went and i had to go take the test|1 Lol Fucking everyone is on some kind of drug according to every redditor|1 I belive the UK is also doingplanning to do that as well|1 This is the real concern for me What happens when theres no electricity Theres no water coming from your faucet and your food spoils What happens when too many police officers get sick You have to quarantine them or risk spreading the disease to the many people they interact with every day That means nobodys coming to help you when you call 911|0 I know that happened Thats many steps away from being a source confirming that whistleblowers are actually being executed Also you act like Im insulting you by telling you to head over to rChinaFlu Im not Its literally a sister subreddit of this one that the mods set up to be less regulated|0 I feel the same way Im not sure if Im actually going insane or if Im just the only person who can extrapolate the fact that 0 confirmed tests in your area means 0 tests being done in your area Which then means we have NO IDEA what is even happening in these areas Not to mention i live in a tourist trap with many old people Florida So even if there were MANY negative tests in the county i live in it is still very possible that some asshat walked into a museum and infected several people because the workers there are to lazynot paid enough to give a fuck about wiping down handles and railings Honestly the best way to describe this feeling is defeated At this point i honestly just want to be validated in my concerns and i want this to blow up so i can give them the most sad i told ya so ever I dont want the grandma i live with to die|0 Desperation It seems for a lot of people that getting the virus is a death sentence now Look at the hospitals theyre shoving them in the beds have no medical support Its basically a camp to group the sick and suspected to be sick together Ive heard that their diet consists of crackers People act irrationally when they believe they themselves could die|0 Well the parentsand generally everyone at SK literally loses shit if someoneor something touches the kids and all the politicians are trying desperatly to stop just that All schools are postponed and stuff Also the elections are just around the corner|0 It means we have a very inaccurate picture of the spread because we are not testing enough people yet it didnt suddenly get worse we just realized the lights were out so we cant see the monster in the room we are still fumbling around looking for the light switch|1 Yeah so that the health care system receives cases at a rate it can handle and isnt overwhelmedEdit Also around half of cases under the age of 50 require ICU hospitalizationhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfj1owhoverhalfofthecoronaviruspatientsin What do you think will happen to those people when we run out of ICU beds|1 The people who arent dumbasses are getting the fuck out of the city right nowWhat about the people stuck here|0 I need to get a gripSorry youll have to wait until this is all over then you can buy your grip from Amazon|1 The costbenefit The more kids that get sick the further the virus spreads and the harder hospitals are going to get hit The costbenefit is going to be lives saved|0 Itll probably be like this until we start seeing major global deaths and panic Zombie apocolypse only just infected people losing their minds I dont think everyone from the top down really are aware of the gravity of the situation if coronavirus is not controlledcontained This is all relatively new to the world Imagine if it mutates into multiple different types of coronavirus well be in some serious trouble God help us at that point Be safe my fellow humansEdit people losing their minds because of no help for weeks on end|0 We are doomed|0 Sorry to hear how these comments have affected you but please realize that most do not feel this way Its just the outspoken few The rest of us the majority of us appreciate the update Its hard to tell what is really going on as we cannot trust most of the media both domestic and foreign so reallife posts like these help us There are good and bad in all communities but mostly good Its just that the bad tends to get more press time A quick question if you feel safe enough to answer do you think the numbers being announced of infected and dead are accurate If not how far off are they Heres hoping that things settle down and this blows over soon Again thanks for keeping us updated and stay safe|1 In Maryland where schools are closed starting Monday the Baltimore City Public Schools have organized at least eight sites where students can pick up grabandgo breakfasts and lunches Washington DC has announced a similar programNew York City which feeds children during summer vacation surely has the capability to organize a similar program If New York City schools and community centers could function in this way children and their families would no longer face so much riskScientists epidemiologists and countries like South Korea Italy and China deep in the throes of this pandemic all practice social distancing as the only method guaranteed to slow the spreadWe believe in learning from history and science Its time to listen to experts about how to preserve human life Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Cuomo Its time to close the schools|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Same I would happily donate to my local health facilities if they asked|1 Yes that is what PBS and Western Blot is but Im sorry that is not what PBSW is referring to Thank you for your comment|1 Generic is fine bro Get that off brand sauce|1 I dont think its fair to say it does more harm Getting an accurate sense of the numbers in China for example did not do more harm|0 Fair enough Tbh I have taken a huge back seat on following politics the past 2 years Because Im a vulnerable population COVID brought me back in The consensus seems to be that Trump and his admin are typically either carnival barking or ad libbing on the fly yes|1 Yeah that is exactly why Im so concerned for my family in China Theres just so many people not enough healthcare professionals with the tools they need My aunt is a nurse in Hunan and has been away from work due to her own health issues Im hoping she gets to stay home but I know shes gonna go back in as soon as shes well|1 Go home buddyWear full on PPE and double up on the PPE payers Discard as you proceed to each checkpoint|0 38 of tests positive vs 20 yesterday and 23 day before|1 That Mars Attack lady looks way better than what KAC would have looked like|1 My budget is also limited and I found some salami are the cheapest vegs and dairy are way more expensive and I have some intolerance too I reddit haha that if I eat as much dkg as I weigh like 60 dkg if I am 60 kg then it is enough Now that is one pound for me 10 dkg of salami and 20 dkg chicken or 10 dkg of buger or grilled grass plus two eggs And smetimes I am adding some lactosefree cream or milk This I can afford but nothing else The good thing is that on this nocarb diet one is never hungry if eats this minimal stuff mo cravings BTW I live in a country where we do not have infections as yet only foreigners but they were found out All tourist passengers are conrolled by thermometers I think |0 Does bill gates have some proprietary concoction ready to go yet Hook it to my veins safety be damned|1 Not the mention we are about the enter a global recession|0 CFR case fatality rate|0 Thank you I dont think a lot of people understand that one can have permanent lung issues from COVID|1 I think hed be ok with a little prayer|1 The American dream is propelled by ceaseless work runaway consumerism automotive seclusion and fast cheap meals But in our chest beats a tremendous heart of greater boredom Every one of us waits to be discovered to be heard to be successful to arrive or for the religious to prove the magic trueSo here it is A time for talking creating resting choosing wise meals and sharing them with genuine grace To prove your willingness to deliver the faith your religion celebrates even though it costs you in the flesh To ration your movements and invigorate your travel To lead your families without bossing them to toil for a greater good and deny the comforts of a steady job To engage in fearful acts supporting your neighbors instead of rallying behind fear to oppose their opinions To make self care patriotic and self education an imperative To set an example for how to thrive in the stormYou are young maybe and you want to prove your merit to the world or perhaps just take from it Here it is then Spread before you like a new vista A world of peril and more importantly of change All of our wars are coming home and all of our traditions are going out To die or be resurrected by choice Your choice Our Choice The Generations and the genders and races and creeds are shuffling their status The sacred Talking Stick is being passed on Perhaps to you perhaps from youThere is only one faith you need now and only one question you must face So simple it runs all eras true unencumbered by excuses or complexities or lore There are times when the question is born and times when it is laid to earth Now is a time of the origin Later when you are older and greyer and living slow upon these higher shelves of society it will come back to be accounted for Quietly and innocently And savagelyHow you responded when there were no instructions provided Who you chose to be by your character The simplest question a child can ever ask and ask they willWhat did You do during the crisis mom and dadAdvice is free cheap and easier given than receivedBe a multiplier of better forces even if you doubt and the question will never haunt you Be a lever for the discord even in jest and the haunting will never cease|1 Ill be anybodys friend for a whole pie|1 Allow me to add context so the event is not cheapened I meant long term effects on markets and supply chain risks911 was and is a big deal|1 Thank you This doesnt show up to date information though Theres a case in Cardiff Wales and Swansea and it only shows one in north England|1 This has been known since January China initially announced this and it was subsequently confirmed by at least 4 other countriesHow is this a surprise|1 We will probably pay for the next months rent next week and then stop We will then have to live off credit cards But if we cant make minimum payments on them theyll be shut off I dont know if we should pay the rent at all really|0 whered the children come from if he was the sole survivor|1 Its not airbourne that article headline was misleading I was frustrated when I saw it Its aersolized which means much smaller dropplets that suspend in the air for much longer and soread much further Which sounds quite bad yes but isnt quite the sameThis same misworded announcement happened with the Ebola outbreak|0 Well if you are quarantied you obviously should be treated as if you called in sick which in Europe means paid time off|0 Having been in an Albertan hospital yesterday they were following up with anyone who had traveled internationally within the last month regardless of location Lots of isolation signs and protocols up|0 Right like they cant just replace them with another desperate worker|1 The difference is those people in the photograph are 100 touching the virus for hours Therefore their risk of them catching it is highWhile Im currently not near the virus and might walk past an infected person only for a few seconds Theres still a risk of me catching it but it is significantly lower than those lab workersSecondly if theyre taking samples their suits also prevent cross contamination that will make the results flawed Labs wants to work in a clean sterile environment and probably where that equipment all the time anyway One of the cleanest labs Ive seen was actually NASAs Moon rock sample lab as they dont want any cross contamination onto the rock samples Heres a video of it httpsyoutubeQxZiPldGtI|0 Hes the nicest guy in the world Im gutted right now|1 Is there any evidence that COVID19 burns out in warm weather I guess well soon find out seeing how it has finally reached Nigeria I hope their right|1 This could all have been prevented if the damn government didnt down play this virusIts no joke We are not paranoid People are going to dieWhats worse is its not individuals just dying its their family members that potentially also catch it And your friends around youIts a horrible diseaseLike the famous saying may God be with AmericaIf you believe all I can say is pray Theres nothing else that humans can do for this awful disease|0 You sent the clear message to your kids that you value human lives far more than money or bragging Good parenting |1 We have a vaccine for seasonal flu This helps the infection rate from spreading We dont have a vaccine for novel coronavirus and wont for anywhere between 12 and 18 months|1 Not much shit gonna come out when people are not consuming any food|1 Do you feel the government leadership of Wuhan needs to be replaced and changed due to how they handled this outbreak or do you want to continue to see the same leadership in place|1 I almost died because of pneumonia four years ago The doctor told my parents I have a 5050 chance to survive I was 19 at that time|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Amazing news|1 Same thing at my old job Made in America with about 12 the materials from China Its not easy to source those materials from somewhere else on short notice Its hard to explain but the stuff they import is custom made and another factory would need to retool etc The negotiating of prices and contracting can take months There would be significant a cost increase Its not so easy to pass a sudden price increase along to the consumer Etc etc etc Its a seriously fucked up situation for them They might not make it|0 Ive just been following the news checking off each step from the movie that happens in real life Absolutely unbelievable Frankly terrifying|0 My mother and my stepmother both passed away of pneumonia within five years of each other My mom was fairly young Its scary|0 Depends on where you are now Airport employees are testing positive in the US|1 Norway should forthwith protect themselves by banning any medical drug developed in such backward countries|1 You dont get any immunity in fact a reinfection is worse than the initial infection|0 Thats quite true I have to wear gloves sometimes at work and I am hyper aware to NEVER go near my face or hairIm so aware that theyre grimey as would feel yeuch and would smudge up my make up|1 Despite this some people in my city here in Italy are still strolling in the park with their kids Doctors have been posting video messages on social media urging people to stay home Comments section are filled with people chastising the doctors and calling them fearmongers We need more drastic measures so people will stop messing around and finally understand that this is a serious matter|0 They can already do all of this the legislation just makes it legal|1 Thanks a tone for this|1 I work in a large NHS hospital in the south of England Im in an admin department but I frequently go to wards walk around and go to most outpatient areas daily We havent been provided any hand sanitizer or wipes to use on our desks after I take over from the person before me Our office hasnt been cleaned since xmas apart from someone emptying the bins I had to go onto the covid ward yesterday to collect a set of notes and nobody said anything to me to not go there etc they are pushing business as usual all while nurses were wearing PPE and talking about sending someone to radiology for a chest xrayI feel like nobody is giving out adequate information the government to the public or hospitals to its staff Our staff are scared to come to work because we feel like infomation is being kept from us|1 Was starting to feel sliiiiightly more optimisticNope back to panic it is|0 I fully support this idea There has to be something we can do|1 My sister told me that were fine this is all made up and its not a Pandemic after she listened to 45s speech Facepalm|1 Yes 2 days and Hogan said the earliest they would come out is this weekend I hope they are released soon|1 The good thing is they make tons of medical equipment the world is in dire need of and hopefully will ramp up production in a few more weeks just in time for when its exploding everywhere else|1 This You can make pretty much every single virus sound horrifying Ive gotten a pretty nasty shingles 2 years ago If someone would have told me at the time that DUDE ITS A DORMANT VIRUS THAT HAS INVADED YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM AND IT CAN CAUSE BRAIN INFLAMMATION AND VISION LOSS AND IT CAN POTENTIALLY MEAN THAT YOU HAVE CANCER IN YOUR BODY I would have probably jumped off a balconyTurns out it came out because I was under a lot of stress at the time and it was gone after 15 week of very annoying itchyness|0 Same thing has happened in the emerg where my husband works This individual was triaged wrong and sat in the waiting area with the most vulnerable people in the department for hours He imagines the test came back neg because he didnt hear otherwise but all it takes is one mistake and vulnerable people are exposed Emerg doctors in Ontario have come together to petition the government set up separate sites for potential COVID19 patients but nothings happened yet|0 It hadnt yet been declared a pandemic at the time and was especially nonthreatening in the US especially not in a tiny town like Vail No one thinks it could happen to them until it does I havent informed the airline but thats a good idea Vail is aware of our group having been affected and have since shut down the resort and I assume been in contact with local businesses|1 Virus Ill have what Im having|0 This is awful We dont need Asian American senators telling us this admin is bad We need more white men yes men telling us everything is OK Harrumph Make America safe from minorities again Trumo29292|1 A nursing home is for people who are too ill to live independently Most if not all of the patients there were already in a very bad way before they got infected|0 If youve got kids at home and want them to be exposed to a variety of kinds of music while theyre at home NPR has been doing its Tiny Desk Concert Serieshttpswwwnprorgseriestinydeskconcerts for years Its tremendously varied inclusive and informal Sometimes the artists discuss their craft as well It includes people youve probably never heard of as well as famous virtuoso classical musicians and some big name pop stars 1010 would recommendEdit if you care about the language your kids hear screen first Part of being inclusive means that not all lyrics are sanitized|1 Its not conspiratorial anybody who doesnt think this subreddit is full of CCP shills pushing proChina propaganda is very naive|0 Because Conservatives dont care about people They never have and they never will|0 thats really sad Im sorry for your husband I hope we stays safe because he is at high risk as for the rest I would kick them in the pants theyre not endangering themselves but every interaction makes the odds much much worse for your husband and millions others who are immune compromised were having a tough time already it breaks my heart to see how many people dont care and are actively endangering me and my family its not just old people who will die its all of us|0 the labs studies done with benzalkonium chloride 02 showed it to be ineffective against COVID 19 most of of these products contain 03 not sure how effect they are againstCOVID 19 I would stick to alcohol 70 or Hydrogen Peroxide 3 for critical things|0 I work at a behavioral clinic and they just announced schools closing for my state Were staying open for normal hours until we literally cant Im hoping the parents have enough respect for us to abide by our sick policy so we can stay open|0 Lmao what the fuck hope more people hoard over this bullshit|0 If you werent prepared and literally have no food Would you wait 2 hours I feel for them|0 FeniksGaming is clearly a volunteer D|1 I find it believable that she could have said something like good thing youre wearing gloves because I just absentmindedly licked my finger and were supposed to be extra careful in case one of us has coronavirus without knowing|1 And then Chile Argentina Uruguay and Southern Brazil will be fucked as Fall and then Winter arrives|0 Most Americans know thats BS we are not any better South Korea for example demonstrated their true intentions by trying to thwart the virus and fight it Same for a few other countries In the US the truth is that we deliberately allowed it to fester so we can remove as much of the costly population as possible|0 The last place you want to be is in a crowded drug store full of sick people trying to buy cold remedies|0 This was Bruce Aylward whos independent from WHO He said the data suggested this in Guangdong province specifically They also said Wuhan experienced serious fog of war Experts also disagree with him some predicting 5 of Wuhan 500000 were infected|0 Only if youre under the delusion that the government can do anything well|1 There is discussion of this by dr John Campbell from tonights episode He advises against ibuprofen and paracetamol as this is used a lot in Italy and extremely high death rate Good post Ive taken it off my shopping list Thanks|1 I suggest getting a lot of sleep my sore throat seems to have dissapeared because of sleep|0 Very good idea to crowdsource information on thisI wish there was an option however for Doctor ordered test but public health refusedI assumed thats what happened to me Ive been waiting 7 days for my test results and have heard nothing from public health The hospital has heard nothing for me My employer federal government US is trying to see what happened but I assume public health quietly denied the request|0 Also happy cake day|1 Or that poor kids funeral in WowThe first thing that came to my mind Theres an article about it now better hope its not on a super public server or itll be gone in a dayTheres no stoping egriefers|0 Yes Im totally Trump Bigly For real though that Cheeto can kiss this countrys collective COVID ridden asses|1 Airlines are a national service and a necessityBy nationalizing it you preserve the employees jobs while removing the ability for anyone else to profit off the bailout Look at all the companies that made money after the last recession the rich did a grab of assets at bargain basement prices after they were bailed out and freed from debtTotally wrong if a company recieves government money so it doesnt go bankrupt it should be nationalised instead|1 What does Wuhan accent sound like|1 I think the CDC or fed needs to announce pandemic status Our legal folks told me that but Im unsure exactly what the mechanism is if that makes sense|0 Oh theres this one guy in my college and hes always oh its just a flu the flu kills more people per year and it rly pisses me off and the same guy came in to college with a cold And he was coughing in the air|0 I cannot accept it but I think it likely|0 Yes|1 Time for severe social shaming Shes putting others at risk|0 Hell Id say this has been spreading in China since November even I read that the first suspicious case was a man presenting symptoms on Dec 1st meaning he had been infected at least in November Id bet hard cash theres already an outbreak in the US thats masking itself as the flu|0 Honestly if I saw this plot in a movie Id laugh at how unbelievable it was But here we are|1 Same here in Ohio Toilet paper and hand sanitizer are gone I work at a vet clinic and we are having to reuse out surgical masks because they are in such short supply|1 I didnt say that good news are fakeIm just saying the facts should be looked at with different angles which you should always do when looking at plain numbersI also didnt say that only those who are taken to the hospital are getting treatedOnly those who have been to a high risk region and are showing symptoms or those whose symtoms are so severe that they have to stay at the hospital are even getting testedWhich means that there are loads of people running around spreading the infection because only those who were tested positive are quarantined along with the people they had contact with which means it will eventually reach those high risk people who are far more likely to die Yeah the mortality rate may be lower than it looks from the official numbers across the globe But I honestly dont care about the percentage of deaths as much as I care about the absolute numbersDont get me wrong its great that there is a high percentage of people who only have flu like symptoms or none at all But detecting most of those should be a key component of a containment strategy until a vaccine or medication is on the market and available for allLets say we have a 1000 proven infected in the country And ten of those died putting the mortality rate at 1 All proven cases are quarantined and cant infect anybody else thats great everybodys happyBut lets say there are 9000 other people who only show light symptoms and werent even tested Its flu season after all Mortality rate is at 01 in reality great isnt itWell the 9000 arent quarantined and they say every person infects about three other peopleJudging by the number above two weeks later we have 27000 people infected 10 are detected 27 more people dead leaving 24300 unquarantinedWhich again infect three people each 72900 infected after another two weeks another 73 deadAnd so on yeah low percentage but 100 preventable deaths in 4 weeks in this scenario|0 Lol Ive lived overseas as a representative of the US and am bilingualIm also a doctoral candidate in pathology|1 Definitely what I took from that|1 People are not starving in Italy The supply chain is working just fine|1 No no its Oh god I cant believe this is happening can someone pleasepleasefind Ja Rule so I can make sense of all this WHERE IS JA|0 Take care of yourself Keep your hands clean avoid large crowds if possible|1 Thats all true but the situation isnt quite as uniformly bleak as you think State governments have the power to act without the federal governments approval and some have been responding relatively aggressively notably Washington and New YorkSo there will be a sort of patchwork of responses of varying effectiveness with some areas on track to look like Korea and others on track for an Iranlevel catastrophic meltdown|1 Yes surgical masks will let it through N95 masks if applied correctly will not|1 Sure government lies but not at the magnitude of the CCP|0 Billionaires need to come to New Zealand before she is forced to enact stricter travel restrictions|0 Thanks uChordata1 just a bit paranoid Ill need more than the soft packs contain and that I wont be able to find some to purchase as they seem to be sold out everywhere I know theyre not liquids but I wondered if a larger container would be a concern on their end|0 How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Breaching Quarantine|1 The White House is hoarding test kits like citizens are hoarding Toilet Paper|1 They should announce NOW that March Break will extend through to Easter this will allow parents to make plans and teachers to prepare|1 Look at the fatality demographicshttpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusagesexdemographicsParents with young children should be MUCH MORE worried about the flu which has been deadly this year for infants|0 Its the Chinese social media he fears Once they caught your scent they are absolutely ruthless|0 Park fees What dystopian nonsense is this|0 Thank you I agree Its frustrating because Ive been through a lot of trauma throughout life especially in my childhood I do have a tendency to overreact to things but the things I overreact to are generally small things that a normal person would encounter in their day to day life like interpersonal relationships job interviews etcIve always felt I handled chaotic situations and emergencies quite well so its frustrating to be called crazy about the one thing Im somewhat level headed about Anyway safe wishes to you and your family|0 Why are the pipes expelling fire|0 How you doing there Food and supplies good Any shortages Water electricity fine Can you isolate yourself for weeks over there with the right supplies|1 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Butter makes it but there was no butter|0 Just hoping it doesnt strike SA for real Brazil would be SO ducked|1 VIP vs NVIP|1 No idea same boat here Ive already had three spouts of sickness within a twelve month period at workCant really afford to be off again especially unpaid|0 If wanted to make sure that manufacturing was moved to the US we would have to place heavy embargos and restrictions on USChinese trade while also creating regulations which make it difficult to exploit cheap labor in foreign countries|1 I find it very concerning that you are hearing its just a flu Im from Aus and our media are taking it very seriously there is not attempt to make the public just relax about it rather reporting on all updates and trying to get as many specialists on the programs as possible|0 Go into full on research mode about the symptoms Sore throat is very rare I just went through this myself But dont worry Ive moved on to a new obsession whether or not I have lung pain or just pulled a weird muscle|0 they are not escaping from COVID19 they are rioting because the government suspended the parent visits|0 Yet its the best kit in the world Since being used no new case has been found|1 You used literally wrong|0 Wow imagine how much worse it could have gotten if they didnt do that|1 I dont understand you said our current system of democracy is bad what alternative are you talking about I didnt mean communism vs capitalism|0 Yep Ive even seen people saying I tested positive for the flu but I dont believe that Saying instead they think it was COVID bc it didnt feel like the flu These people are in for a very unpleasant surprise|0 passes out from shock|0 Most intelligent statement this administrations ever made|1 Oh yeah not saying we shouldnt try We should try everything I just dont think it will help much except maybe to slow the spread some|1 In China 3 weeks ago they were well aware there were thousands upon thousands of cases they were just trying to cover it up|1 YepTwo cheeks of the same assI generally mistrust most politicians regardless of their positionsIve never understood the whole cult of personality thingI think the Chinese deserve the utmost respect for what theyve achieved but when I say Chinese I mean the doctors nurses community leaders health professionals and the ordinary Chinese citizens and maybe begrudgingly some of the regional leadership The CCP has just usurped that heroism as PR for themselves|1 And this is what even the best prepared countries will be looking at if more likely when their health care systems become overwhelmed I agree were looking at a 2 CFRSource while I dont have any special access to secret data Im a physician and also have a graduate research background in immunologyinfluenza vaccine responses|1 Germany doesnt do postmortem analysis and considering that Germany got a weird number of pneumonia cases because of the flu you can imagine how many casesdeath went undetected|0 Thats a blessing Ive worked at Olive Garden for 5 months first serving job everything from the wine samples to the unlimited soup salad and breadsticks can get overwhelming with a big party were limited to 8 but most Ive taken is a 20 top Ive seen some servers just breakdown I still like serving and I have no idea why lol|1 Or perhaps a lab worked simply became infected unknowingly and it just spread from there|0 My mom 60 is convinced that shes not at risk with this She told me that shes careful and washed her hands frequently so there wont be any chance that shell get it Shes also convinced that my grandma 86 wont get it because shes still fit as a fiddle |1 People are looking within their bubble My schoolwork is still open therefore the rest of the country is as wellAlso there hasnt been any US federal mandate for closures like other countries but to be fair some US states are larger than those countries|1 to the worst of it worse means bad to a greater extent worst means bad to the greatest extent|0 Thats because its nonsense Dont put more and more pressure on the health system just because youre paranoid about your flucold This panic is completely counterproductive|0 Fuck you|0 Its not great at all but its terrible either there are a lot of jobs that pay less Average retail is 20hr Average hospitality is 16hr|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 Many times Damn too many people like you in this sub just fucking respond to the post|0 The number of deaths being accurate doesnt make the CFR accurate There must be many mild cases that havent been found|1 As someone with aortic stenosis in my mid 20s this is extremely concerning I hate the amount of people on Facebook not giving af about this thinking people are freaking out for no reason Its so easy to forget about people like me who look totally healthy but can take a real hit from something like this|1 I think the states companies universities and schools are taking things into their own hands and implemented widespread testing unilaterally Im hopeful that the situation while it will definitely get worse wont get as bad as it is in Italy Of course who really knows|1 Really goofy I feel like within the week or maybe the next is when universities will really start shutting down widespread Theres been a lot of talk in mine Canada from the school and professors and weve only got like 14 confirmed cases in my province as of last night Thankfully it seems like Canada is taking it pretty seriously at least compared to some governments But I guess its still pretty hard to tell how much theyll do until it really starts spreading|1 R0 is 47 people now But R0 is not a fixed value is just an average based on changing conditions You could have an R0 of 10000 if you spit constantly into the air supply of a mass meeting or something|0 But they also believe they had a large middleclass to sell to in ChinaIm not sure that theory is holding up now|0 At this point if theyre going on their damn cruise during a pandemic yes they are cruise people haha|1 what a scumbag this guy belongs in prison|0 Stressed|0 Yes I am sure that the health expert is responsible for Trump firing the pandemic expert team in 2018 and cutting the CDCs budget Maybe Trump should just accept that he fucked up big time|1 Can you link to the petition description The link youve given goes straight to the page to sign Id like to know what Im signing for|1 Elon You said time and time again that you care about the future of humanity Do the right thing now Elon during this pandemic and dont play God with the lives of all ur employees at SpaceX and Tesla and the rest of the population Please dont let me lose respect for the hero that I once saw in you This is the time for you to release your employees and not risk their lives during this pandemic|1 The document says that As many as 80 of the population are expected to be infected with Covid19 in the next 12 months and up to 15 79 million people may require hospitalisationAs many vs expected I read it as an upper limit|0 In MA Yesterday I was told I need major surgery Doctor said that he wont even schedule it as Im not going to die and very soon they are stopping all non essential surgery and health care He hopes by mid June I can have my surgery|1 Ha Same here I remember reading in lots of places that there are going to be lots of newborn babies in nine months and I couldnt understand why they said that Me and my wifes sex life has basically gone but weve talked about it and were not worried there is a definite external reason for it and it isnt anything to do with us or our relationship Youll get it back|1 If you dont have insurance its often the only way to get healthcare Its not the fault of the poor its the fault of the clinics that turn people away if they cant pay meaning they go to the one place that cant legally turn them away|1 This is all the fault of the Chinese Communist Party They destroyed too many lives They NEED and MUST pay a price|0 He needs to go on tour and shake the hands kiss and hug ALL of his supporters|1 It depends on your insurance Most fan events do not have insurance at all much less insurance that would cover that scenario|1 To their credit Elsevier created a Coronavirus research collection on 1Science of over 4000 articles Not their exhaustive collection of articles containing the word coronavirus but the right step and it covers a great deal of relevant sciencehttpscoronavirus1sciencecomsearchhttpscoronavirus1sciencecomsearch|1 I have some N95 as well from the Ebola scare in Dallas from 2014 I just wanted some P100 at home if I have to triage a family member in the home who has the virus since Ill be the nurse of about 7 people Ive tried the masks on and its not too bad breathing through them|0 Between this and the psych ward in Korea what Ive learned is that I really really dont want to have to ever live in a long term care facility|1 Only until intelligent AI are founded and youve beat the market|1 Ive just watched this and feel really sad for the people of Wuhan So many horrific happenings i just dont know what to say i dont actually know where to startSo sad|0 As coronavirus Yep|1 Sorry but I need to make a point here Im italian the FIRST thing governement said us is NOT to go to the hospital Doing this will expose other people to virus We are made to call a number 1500 and they come to test youHow can you stop this if people with viruses go into hospital halls|0 North Koreas civilian aircraft are so old they probably have a greater chance of causing deaths than the virus does|1 Its more contagious and 34 times more deadly than the flu Flu 01 deaths Coronavirus 34 deaths|0 those actually do kill millions of peopleCovid19 easily has the potential to kill millions of people Experts are projecting 6070 of adults will be infected worldwide Even if 1 of those people die do the mathhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchviDelUkpFm60Perk your ears up 127 of the videoThe news isnt being clear on just how dangerous this is|0 That will be true if it spreads enough Not yet though Many colds present the same|1 Substance abuse and domestic violence skyrocket in post disaster situations too|0 I like the Waynes World reference Have an upvote|1 Thats literally what im saying China this is a good way to see how it spreads China has been saying its not air born but how can so many new cases come up after they quarantined people |1 Gotta love Russia|1 Slowing it down is incredibly important And who do you expect to deliver all those online orders How do you expect the have water or electricity or gas in your home if the people working in those industries stay home What about the military Wouldnt they be capable of spreading it Just look at what happened to the Diamond Princess even though they didnt leave their rooms|1 The situation isnt so straightforward The Chinese company has promised to license the rights from Gilead ie Gilead gets a share of the profits Although BrightGene has said it has successfully developed and manufactured copies of the drug it has also maintained that it will not launch the drug until it has received licensing from Gilead conducted clinical trials and obtained approval httpwwwpmlivecompharmanewschinasbrightgenesuccessfullycopiesgileadscoronavirushopefulremdesivir1325639httpwwwpmlivecompharmanewschinasbrightgenesuccessfullycopiesgileadscoronavirushopefulremdesivir1325639 However if the Chinese patent is granted it might mean that Gilead also has to license from whatever Chinese institute in order to sell their drug in ChinaGilead had a patent on the use of this drug for coronaviruses in general but they did not have the data that it works for SARSCoV2 China has or will have that data Its complicated There is no lawsuit yet|1 no they have come into contact with someone who may have had contact|0 In aviation we call that getthereitis Its killed a lot of pilots and passengers when the schedule and the external factors associated with that schedule override all the other factors screaming dont fly or turn around|0 STILL stop touching your face you need to break the habit when you eventually have to go out Also many jobs cannot be worked from home|0 People being infected is bad but most will get better Mortality is unknown|1 Methanolismadefrom the destructive distillation of wood and is chiefly synthesized from carbon monoxide and hydrogenI doubt they are making liquor out of wood|0 Woah This radical rhetoric is getting out of hand|1 For those of you nonclinical folk who dont have access to Uptodate or Dynamed this is how clinicians will approach the most common severe complication for COVID19 The first major retrospective study of over 44000 patients showed 138 of patients as severe dyspnea respiratory rate 30minute blood oxygen saturation 93 PaO2FiO2 ratio 300 andor lung infiltrates 50 within 48 hours and 47 as critical respiratory failure septic shock andor multiple organ dysfunctionfailurehttpspubmedncbinlmnihgov32064853theepidemiologicalcharacteristicsofanoutbreakof2019novelcoronavirusdiseasescovid19inchinadoptAbstract|0 I probably say California has at least 1000 people not getting tested but got the symthoms I got the flu like symthoms after getting the virus from a karayoke place in santa Clara with 14 other friends who showed similar symthoms next week I called Kaiser 19 times but they said they cannot get me tested and it would cost me ten hundred dollars So I just went to work everyday gym and now everyone got it around me and my manager might die I should have quarantined myself but didnt realize it might have been Covid 19 until I saw the news |0 not the case in Denmark it is illegal to limit how many of an item a customer may buy however they are allowed to have nonlinear pricing|0 What about Portland Theyre feeling left out|1 Its not a vaccine A vaccine gives your immune system an attenuated version of the thing to fight so it can build up antibodies And once it knows which ones work against that thing it can make a lot of them again in the future It goes bad guy make this special thing to fight it This technique instead just puts DNA fragments into your body that your body copies brainlessly to produce antibodies Its not teaching your immune system Its just hijacking your DNA copy processes to make antibodies instead So the antibodies would only live in your system as long as those DNA fragments do which would probably be on order of days|0 someone on tv tried to blame Hipaa and privacy issues that is total bs no one is asking for their names|0 Nah theyre screwed over by their own greed|0 httpswwwreuterscomarticleushealthcoronavirusjapanjapansabesaysreadytotopupfiscalspendingifcoronavirushitseconomyidUSKBN20Q02LJapan hasnt done anything Again its all talk and expectations and promises nothing concrete|1 Thanks I think the fact that I have been spooked by all this has made things much easier|1 Time for our government to do literally anything to help people and not corporate board members and businesses|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Can we have a watch party at your house|1 Im guessing this is manufacturing in a sterile environment The employer is mostly worried about the environment and product being fouled Sounds like a good clean environment where you are safe Dont worry about rationing ppe they are just trying to be reasonable I believe|1 How do you feel now and do you feel like theres permanent damage|0 Why are we the only European country doing fuck all Im grateful to my employer that at least they have seen sense and have asked all staff to work from home in the next couple of weeks|0 My parents are in their early 70s My mom is traveling for work tomorrow and also has an autoimmune thing My dad has blood sugar and blood pressure issues I hope she doesnt bring it home to both of them I wouldnt be willing to fly across the country to attend their funeral|0 Hey I thought it was worth posting again because I misunderstood what I had read I only care about factsthis is no time for egowe need to all be informed and smart and this thing will go way better|1 How is this nonsense up voted with 20 votes Are you seriously questioning why we have a government currently|0 Are there any alternate sources of information about Westerdamned infection Is it still just one Asking for a comedian|1 Wow In Japan it takes 4 hours to get results Its obvious which country is more developed|1 This man speaks of witchcraft Arrest him|0 See What i did was stock up beer so if i get told to stay home Im good|1 Exactly the same situation here in my office in Maryland About 13 of our office was out sick with this weird nonflu in January It started when one person came back from vacation in Mexico and the next day became symptomatic with cough and high fever|0 I guess he is gearing up for a Darwin award Shucks|1 They dont understand how insurance works because theyre rich enough they dont have to give a damnTrump literally thought health insurance cost 12 year You know a lot of the papers were sayingactually these Senators couldnt believe it how much I know about it I know a lot about health care You are basically saying from the moment the insurance youre 21 years old you start working and youre paying 12 a year for insurance and by the time youre 70 you get a nice planIts not an isolated incident either Later he bumped it up slightly to 15 per month Insurance is youre 20 years old you just graduated from college and you start paying 15 a month for the rest of your life and by the time youre 70 and you really need it youre still paying the same amount and thats really insuranceHe thinks its the same as a life insurance plan|1 But its probably better to move them off a ship and into hospitals instead of risking infecting many more people on the ship no Like what just happened on the diamond princess bro|1 Ha Ha Thats what you get for being a nationalist Actually having faith in your country Whats wrong with you|1 Nah he had some nooodz he had to handle|0 Where we live this isnt an option because not everyone has access to internet We have 2 weeks worth of paper packets|1 You know what really doesnt add up Belgium has 109 cases and no deaths so far US has 214 cases yet 14 deaths A logical explanation could be Unreported cases in US are currently through the roof|0 You should check with doctors or whoever knows about that stuff whether it would be safe and effective to use denatured fuel alcohol which is still widely available It has methanol which is toxic but depending on whether it can enter the body there it may work in a pinch Check obviously before you try though|1 What is the cost Most have not hit their deductible or have no insurance|0 Youre jealous is all|0 Thats what people said two weeks ago Doubt it|0 Stay safe out there fellow human beingStay safe out there fellow Vault Hunterftfy|1 Theyve chained all but one exit So in case of fire good luck|1 My wife is due in two weeks Im terrified|0 Its not misleading it literally says on it ON GOING and is asterisked Its just displaying where the Corona Virus currently is relative to other pandemics|1 No one going to mention that the supplier shares a very similar name to the organisation running the lab in the Valve game PortalI hope they are all getting cake|1 Thanks this is a solid post The cash thing is a big issue outside of China In China if I go to a shop I dont need to touch anything but the groceries|1 Dude the USA is doing ZERO community testing for Ncov This post is a joke|1 That requires the political will to do so Even with a major flaw in the global supply chain being exposed it will be difficult in the US to force businesses to shift production onshore It would require regulation and subsidies|0 I wish Everyone is far too greedy though Im from Canada and the only reason we havent closed boarders I think is that it wouldnt be good for our economy Our leaders care more about money than us the citizens|1 Thats not looking at correct exponential growth Top Epis say 4080 infected within the year conservative 50 is 163 million 50 million with much more associated hospitalizations than flu|0 First Person Shooter online multiplayer games That culture is toxic AF and if you try to be rational with themyoure immediately labeled an antigamer or someshit Hardcore Us vs Them mentalityI quit playing those games because of it I stick to campaigns and solo games like Skyrim now|1 So Italy Iran in a couple weeks probably France and Spain The UK next Southeast Asia What is the plan for the month after that This is while ignoring that the virus was already within the US Buying time at the front isnt crisis control With the infections rate we are seeing it is not a question IF it comes It is a question of managing the impact to spread the worst of it over months rather than weeks That requires testing monitoring quarantines All of the things currently missing in Trumps plan|0 Agreed My stress levels were way higher before but now are lower I still ask myself is it enough|0 Thanks Me too My 10yo son has BAD asthma so were keeping them both as far apart as possible and hoping he doesnt already have it I know theres been reports of kids not having as bad of symptoms but his asthma has already put him in the hospital before|1 Assume 60 get infected Assume 15 need care Assume 02 of those admitted die for ages 1050 Risk numbers from Wuhan and CDC estimate of how many Americans may eventually catch itYour chance of dying this year from covid alone is 1 in 1000 Thats huge Thats more likely than dying in a fire or by smoke And you can catch it multiple timesChange the fatality on admittance rate to 0125 for 70 age and your risk becomes 1 in 100 Same as dying in a auto accident And again no vaccine no long term immunity you can catch it again and again This not if you become infected risk This is your chance of dying from covid in totalWe just added a huge new mortality risk This disease outstrips cancer outstrips most other causes|0 I was joking |1 You tell them that and they keep saying that theyre well informed and not panicking at all and were all dumb sheeple for not flipping shit at the virus and hiding under the bed|1 In my opinion as long as the 3D Printed Units are being given away for free then ethically its for the greater good and a Judge should throw out the Lawsuit due to the current circumstances Otherwise one shouldnt be allowed to profit from the work of another without consent|1 Can you back it up with a source that TMobile is actually ATT Ive just never heard this and Google is saying thats not true I dont doubt you just want your knowledge|0 My mum isnt exactly old or particularly elderly but its very frustrating how she lets basic precautions slip when I see her She seems to be wiping her faceeyesnose using unwashed hands is still heading to social events after work trots out a I dont have heath problems so itll be fine if I get it as a defence etc|1 So are they saying that lcov has been around since the beginning and we are just now realising there are two different strains|0 If you were my child I would not want you to take the risk With limited test kits and some people having mild symptoms I would reschedule Considering the circumstances I am sure others are asking the same questions If things get worse theres a chance that spring break events will be cancelled However I remember my college years and taking risks If you do decide to go please take the necessary precautions Travel with one or two responsible friends stay away from large crowds make sure you have necessary items hand sanitizer wipes your own bottled water snacks etc Also consider going to a place with a limited number of people camping hiking self guided tours etc|1 WTF the EU has approved their test but they cant get the FDA to approve it What I guess trump doesnt own stock in this Utah company|0 Being a parent and having children is why you SHOULD have a firearm that is securely stored away from them|1 Youre mixing up causation with correlation Rock Hudson didnt cause AIDS to be taken seriously he happened to die as the public was becoming more aware And Tom Hanks is not the reason that people are suddenly paying attention to Coronavirus Thats just silly|0 Not planning on traveling anywhere anytime soon But I do agree with you about some of the fears and empathize deeply how are we supposed to do much of anything outside of work and home for the next couple of months I know it is not possible for a lot of folks I know unless we literally went into state enforced quarantine I wanted to say that i empathize deeply with you Sending kindness|1 All the evidence no if you read Adam Kucharski and other modellers working with the UK thats just false|0 The government doesnt exist to protect its people It exists to control its people|0 DrJohn Campbell covered this in his live QA last week He suspects the weak positive rating is due to the animal not being actually infected but rather just having the virus settled onto their mucus membranes In a similar way an apple or any other inanimate object would be contaminated|1 Goes state by state but for the most part yeah all our sports stuff is shut down|1 If I did this as a kid Id be the smartest person in the world I didnt They did Man Im hyped for the future I just want so full dive vr|1 How dumb How sad|0 Whats a shame is that theres no button to report possible propaganda comments I clicked report but none of the options matched|0 Youre welcome |1 The reality is theres around 70000 kits iirc in the healthcare sector and the million touted by Pence is in commercial sector According to the latest committee meeting httpsyoutubeHcPAfj38gk4|0 Yes but unlike the rest of us his prayers worked so that must mean he is best buds with Jebus if he dies they get to hang out more often so surely his reward is dying quicker than the rest of us Phew sure glad my prayers didnt work|1 Yes it is the actual fuck|0 I havent called for that and if there are conservatives that are calling for that shame on them Thats wrong Lot more liberals on here making comments compared to conservatives just based on what Ive seen|0 Lets see what else your link saysThe second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much deadlier than the first The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics those most at risk were the sick and elderly while younger healthier people recovered easily By August when the second wave began in France Sierra Leone and the United States the virus had mutated to a much deadlier form October 1918 was the deadliest month of the whole pandemic|0 You did the right thing It may be tough love but its still love on your part Unfortunately I think your loved ones will figure out you were right all to soon|1 Can you do me a favour and shut up this isnt just a natural disaster as it was completely caused by humans unhygienically selling and eating animals in a market in inhumane conditions|1 Jokes on me Have I defended our corrupt profit driven health care system Jokes on you wringing your hands in angst over the poor state of things here or smugly telling me how much better their healthcare system is compared to ours isnt going to protect you We are all screwed Rubbing my nose is how shitty my available health care is isnt going to change that|1 Is there not a level 4 lab in Wuhan Because if there isnt Im sorry for the misinformation But I believe you will find that thay is a fact what I meant was its my opinion that it could of all started there Do you need a hug You seem angry|0 they all knew watching the same stuff we were Yet they all delayed and lied Testng only started when they could no longer cover it up All said its nothingEvery country even down to every state now same story|0 As I understand the Italian news this decree is now in force The whole region of lombardy and 11 provinces 12 million people affected Movement is restricted You can only leave or enter for work that cannot be postponed or emergencies Schools theatres swimming pools gyms museums closed No public sport events and competitions Movement inside the quarantine zone only if absolutely necessary Bars and restaurants only open between 6am and 6pm Bars restaurants shops supermarkets have to ensure a 1 metre distance between customers If they cant theyll have to close Churches and other religious places remain open but must make sure there are no larger gatherings of peopleAnything else|0 Tell that assange or snowden about these differences and as for downvotes it is to be expected when the common npc is confronted with an opinion he doesnt understand|0 ID 5 confirmed cases as of 314 in 24 hours Stores are getting picked over No TP sanitizing products to speak of Sundries going fastPeople have no clue Still out and about as if nothing is happening Pray for us all|0 But thats not deaths Thats those infected|0 Followed Thank you|1 I appreciate the work going into this|1 All while blaming the Jews sorry the new scapegoat the democrats|0 Yes Much worse|0 The death rate is just too high to be just age Compare its recoveries to nr of deaths Its insane At the end the death rate might be 20 maybe higher Its just too high to be a failure of the health system They might have a newly mutated virus that is more aggressiveIve been watching all the numbers multiple times per day since January This really scares me|0 Dude Im on reddit that is by far the most heard one yet You can do better|1 I think the 34 percent is really a false number Now this is just my hunch but based on and lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this because a lot of people will have this and it is very mild They will get better very rapidly they dont even see a doctor or call doctor you never hear about those people so you cant put them down in the category in overall population in terms of this corona flu or virus So you just cant do thatSo if you know we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by you know sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work but they get better and then when you do have a death like you had in the state of Washington like you had one in California I believe you had one in New York you know all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4 percent which is a very high number as opposed to a fraction of 1 percent|1 Fucking bullshit I hope we dont cave in like we did with Kuka The US cant be trusted anymore with stuff like this The rights for this vaccine are better of in Europe|0 Nope Every single guideline being given in America right now goes something like if youre not feeling well please stay home As if the whole 214 day asymptomatic but contagious incubation period is Not a thing Like this is why there are so many American gloomers on this subreddit lol America is about to get fucked by this|0 Woot woot Fuck you virus|1 It has been in the US since DecJan the whole spike in flu deaths was actually coronovirus and the death rate will be pretty low overall At least that is what I think will be found out in the end Was no stopping it|0 Protease inhibitors Arent those used for hiv drugs|0 I would bet it will get cancelled A week is a long time in this dynamic situation|1 My dad is a senior engineer for a medical company and had to do routine maintenance on an MRI machine last night but needed distilled water to do a flush Had to delay because he went to 6 different stores in Wisconsin Northern Illinois in the area and there was no distilled water to be foundFriends posted pictures from Northern WI Stevens Point Area showing that they cant find diapers at their local storesGot a text from my aunt that the grocery store near them in the Milwaukee area is nuts Will be going later to pick up an RX wish me luck Stay safe everyone|1 If this were Martin Shrekeli hed be like cOme DoWN to cORonAvIrus plAZa whEre U cAn geT TeSted foR thE lOW prIcE OF 9999 buT if u CalL up on THE spEciaL numBer u GEt a discOunT oF 50 ThATs riGhT yOuR hEaltH iS worTh tHe discount of A fUCKIng inFomeRcial bECAuSe thiS is the U s fucINg A aND FucK YOu|1 Seniors are going to be pissed thats 2 thousand dollars down the drain|0 When they dont cancel it then people will start getting it whilst there They then may quarantine the event and it will look like a proper mad max dystopia People trapped in a world of steam punk penny farthings and chainmail covered trucks|0 There is not just one guy anymore Germany suspects 70 of Germans will get COVID19|0 in a time of global crisis americans still find ways to be patriotic twats about it|0 The numbers there are all general purpose I think check your provinces info if you want to be sure not limited to travelers|1 Better views than Greenland|1 Thanks for the input I was curious to hear from someone who had experience with ECMOYeah that doesnt sound viable whatsoever in terms of resourcemanpower allocation ifwhen the outbreak gets worse ICUs are overwhelmed staffing is short etc|1 Ugh what a prick I mean it barely matters at this point just earlier this week in St Louis county while being out and about the number of people I have seen at work and in public with flu like symptoms is really high Granted it could just be flu but I have a feeling there is pretty wide community spread here already and we just dont know due to the lack of testing|1 Great way to restart the cluster|1 I hope BJ will get sick|0 Sadly the high rate of inequality and individualism means USA is a heartbeat from the purge so crime would be crazy Already robbery happened in nyc using flu mask that was a week ago|0 I mean I understand the theory here but fuck that|0 Lmao when a Gothic store cares more about their employees than mine|1 This is complete and utter bull I guess we are just giving up on containing it |1 The numbers are old but back in 2013 Starbucks reported that they were serving over 500 people per dayhttpswwwbusinessinsidercomhowmanycustomersstarbuckswillhave201310 e per store on average and expected it to grow to closer to 750 around nowThe same 1000 people per day all contained at the school every day is probably less risky that a varying 500 people per day who travel all over the community|0 Nice find|1 they gave us a callSo i was believing you up to i saw this before or after the NSA was monitoring their commsx200BI wouldnt put it past the NSA to have a net up right now passively watching people with high level information such as this looking for leaks If this information was truex200BThen again maybe they dont maybe everyone has their head up their own ass like the CDC right now As a few buddies in the National Guardim on the east coast were told to be ready But it was more to contain a small area Youre talking about locking down a state or multiple states i feel like opsec would be tight as shit on that|0 I think whether it would be accepted is the bigger question|1 Youre assuming everyone is a millennial Anything other than the cable TV box making moving pictures to my parents must be witchcraft And they were among the first parents of that generation to get internet access so yeah Theres a huge untapped market of old people that REALLY dont want to go out|1 DM me I work on low level problems in genomics that could be ideal for you All open source public research|0 Oh thats it Man Im sure insurance will happy cover that s|1 That is the least reassuring thing I have read in a very very long time|0 Thank you very kindly |1 You really should try kfcs Portuguese egg tartspasteis de nata As far as Im aware of theyre available in just about every asian kfc Really good for the price lol|1 Just like he listened to the protesters |1 Portuguese here im sure we have it in wide numbers across the population precisely because till a week ago they only tested with travel history Suposedly now they will test all respitatory syndromes but its so late|1 But are they immune Thats the biggest question I have what sort of immunity do recovered patients have to covid19|1 This whole situation has really opened my eyes as to just how complacent narcissistic and selfish the culture here can be|0 I cannot wait to hear if my daughters co worker was positive If so I am shaming the shit out of the medical practice that allowed the employee to work a full week with the obvious symptoms|1 Ill try to|0 I was there over Christmas and the sun didnt shine the whole time I was there and two days later when I came back I was sick for over 3 weeks|0 I dread the debt bills and bankruptcy that is around the corner for so many Americans I also have no hope in any relief from our administration Theyll call it thinning the herd behind closed doors|0 Good to see this kind of analysis Basically says there are no obvious signatures of genetic engineering in the viral sequence This still doesnt rule out the origin of the outbreak from the Wuhan viral lab since they were studying diverse wild types of coronavirus It also doesnt rule out directed evolution in vitro|1 It is stupid but so are people so I wouldnt be too surprised|0 Die from what Theyre not testing so I guess it will just be natural causes|0 me readingsubreddit Oh thank god|1 Reputable news outlets are probably all doing as theyd told and minimizing it Theres a thing in the UK Defense of the Realm Act The government basically asks news not to report on a certain thing It was invoked during WW1 to reduce panic Maybe we have something like that in the US Unless bodies are piling up to the point they cant hide it Id be surprised to see accurate reporting|1 Yes and he is the boss doing nothing We have these republican who believe praying fixes things global warming is a hoax and vaccines cause autism I would rather haves educated individuals making the decisions|1 Yeah I would tell you I have a fever chills and some sweating but dont have a thermometer on hand Going to order one online|1 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ive also heard this I guess we just decided to get sick under the radar to avoid panic It is frustrating|0 Wow America is so modern an well prepared and Americans are so well educatedTheres no way theyd have those same issues that China had or worse|1 Just because that sounds like a lot of people doesnt mean that it is wrong Its just incomprehensible Like the WHO chair said We are in uncharted waters here|1 Same here I feel like theyre failing so fucking hard I live in Seattle and people who have symptoms here are being turned away without a test being told theyre fine|0 My family is in Venezuela I promise you cant completely stay in touch as you otherwise would|1 Planet graniteEarth treks these are indoor climbing gyms across the country They closed their doors completely to prevent the spread of the virus As you can imagine hundreds of people touching rock climbing holds and ropes is an easy way to share germs Their staff even part time workers will be paid during the closure Memberships will not be billedOn the other hand mesa rim climbing gyms are still operating but have just limited the gym to members only|1 Sometimes it sucks to be special|1 The good part is you have super markets full for you now to get all you need and be save when the storm starts|1 Most chemical gases dont do lung damage Some do of course Chemical weapons are many times similar to insecticides but instead of blocking the neurotransmition of insects interfere with mammalian neurotrasmission|0 Lets just say we are fucked DFW|0 Only the best cereal in the world Cinnamon Toast Krunch Oh wait Uh CTC|1 Yes I agree Im a high school student in Michigan and everybodys freaking out at my school Especially since our school is near both casesEdit Yep schools are cancelled from Monday until April 6|1 what is frustrating is that all of that will happen the math is clear so why wait and make things worse|0 Should be arrested for negligence|0 America is a somewhat free society and we still fucked it up Its not about the actual society but the leadership|0 NYC is so expensive I was doing quite well there until I had to close my company 5 months later I had to move away|1 Thanks for the input OP I know youre on the statistical side of things but have you seen any statistical evidence of possible mutation Or any other drastic changesFrom what I gather from what you provided especially with the possible contact numbers at point 8 that quarantine measures and public awareness has stemmed the tide of infection for the time being That is great newsBut the nature of the virus still leaves many questions|1 Thanks|1 The longer we wait to quarantine the whole country the deeper Covid19 will penetrate and like the Italians doctors have said all the hospitals will convert into coronavirus centers and eventually the demand will outweigh the supply of doctorsnurses and materials Its either we look like Wuhan or Milan|1 Is your boss aware that you were in contact with this patient without appropriate ppe And theyre still asking you to go in Will you be expected to wear ppe to prevent potentially spreading it to other patients Can you be tested based on proximity to a confirmed case We will absolutely need all medical staff to be healthy for as long as possible as more and more people fall ill I hope you did not contract the virus and I hope policies change soon to better protect you|1 But why would I want to spend 1 on insurance for the disc I swear to god that is the most stupid shit Its even obvious the employee thinks its stupid but has to ask or else he will get written upYou dont have kids My eight year olds can load a game one time and magically a scratch pops up in just the right spot to make the game unplayable Of course if I had any sense Id just buy all the games online but that doesnt work well for presents that I want them to actually open|0 The problem is people are posting random youtube videos as facts Or saying If everyone in the world is infected with a 5 rate we can expect this many deaths1|0 Yes I want coronavirus WTF|0 At the same time there would be a large amount of people who are like fuck going to the hospital Ill get infected there for sure while getting tested|0 Hes got the age to be like that again|1 Thats the exact sort of thing that leads to low morale and mutiny|0 The whole thing is a nothing burger Give the infected a bowl of chicken soup and a pint of whiskey|0 As someone who has lived in Egypt good luck with that My heart breaks for the hand most Egyptians have been dealt|1 Not every manager that gets a bonus is an executiveboard member Some of them are just normal folks for whom that is part of their normal salary|1 Dont worry if this stuff turns out to work governments around the world are going to be cranking it out like you wouldnt believe|1 Never said that The real heroes are the people on the front lines not me I dont want any credit is all People are going to concerts cruises plame trips and acting as if everything is normal Its not normal You need to become a germaphobe if you want to increase your chances of not getting infected If everybody did that this thing would die off in a month Since most people are ignorant im likely going to be a germaphobe for the next two years Be safe my friend|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Exactly why going into total lockdown too early is dangerous Savings may be able to survive a month or two but 4 5 6 months of lockdown in the next 12|0 My kids peds office is a sure fire way to get gastro or influenza Doc touches kid types note on laptop touches kid again Nurse comes in pulls paper down on exam table and rips off old Wipe down exam table not covered by paper Goddamn that is just too much My lawd|0 Its impossible for exponential growth to continue forever Eventually sick people are just spreading the disease to other sick people Havent checked what of people in Italy are sick but its possible that this is all were seeing|0 Its so crazy to read some of the things we were thinking about 40 days ago today Im proud of us guysBtw 10 days ago a mod on one of the other Covid subs threatened me because I used the word disaster saying that 2 mortality is a disaster Today Cuomo talked for 2 hours to us New Yorkers about how he implemented a disaster law that will apply to other disasters such as Covid Oh well|0 Applause for being proactive|1 That sucks Theres a lot of bad info about face masks saying they are only for the infected etc But if the virus can be contagious when you still feel fine how do you even know if youre healthy YOU DONT Thats what confuses me to no end|0 Its not original or clever Joke has been made countless times and its been days|0 Do you know why is called the spanish flu Because everywhere back then goverments were trying to stop panic and not allowing the press to report true numbersMeanwhile in Spain not the country most affected by the flu anyway they easily realised it was a pandemic and periodically inforrmed the press about the number of deaths So the press everywhere could not report cases in their own countries but they could report the data from Spain So spanish fluThe name just stuck|0 I was going through the listings to find people to report But when you go to report the listing price gowdging wasnt listed under reason even though eBay knows this is happening You know what the first option to report someone for wasavoiding eBay fees Cause thats the thing they care about the most|1 This is so sad I always found it pretty awful when people would say itll just kill the elderly Yeah And thats a good thing|0 Cant cancel misinformation unfortunately|1 Best post title ever|1 Matt Hancock said we will stop at nothingTheyve done nothing and they will stop there|0 Yes Most people cant even miss 1 paycheck My neighbor drives Uber and Lyft for money His car broke down for a few days and he couldnt make rent that month so his rent was 2 weeks late His landlord would not renew his lease so he had to moveIn a layoff you have unemployment but that barely covers shit Most Americans are one bad thing away from being homeless|0 So kind of like I Am Legend We wont be sick well just form a new coronasociety that has formed symbiosis between man and virus And well still have the Olympics but with five coronaviruses as a logo|1 Just wait a few weeks and have your pick of abandoned ones The best thing about living in Asia is all the people flexing with Mercedes they cant actually afford|1 For more information about N95 respirators and general preparedness you can read our Wiki pagehttpswwwredditcomrChinaFluwikiindexpreparednessCDCs recommended guidance for extended use and limited reuse of N95 filtering facepiece respirators in healthcare settings httpswwwcdcgovnioshtopicshcwcontrolsrecommendedguidanceextusehtmlStudies suggest that the correct use of P2 masks or surgical masks is effective in reducing the spread of respiratory viruses httpswwwijidonlinecomarticleS12019712280829010084fulltextI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I didnt before I started It literally 247365 Holidays and pandemicsnothing stops the post office Guy at work was joking the other night said if we closeyou know its bad|0 Coronavirus could end up killing more people than WWIIHaving said that when it is over it wont result in the same kind of social upheaval Just a rebuilding Most of the people who will die from coronavirus are the elderly who are already out of the work force|0 Like Fauci alluded to today its our system thats the problem It isnt geared towards this like other countries|1 he didnt know he had leukaemia until he went to the hospital for coronavirusim praying this virus doesnt unlock dormant diseases|1 Thank you|1 aw yeah i feel I mean the only thing you can do is stay healthy and aware take some echinacea for immune support theres lot of cool home recipes that help your immune system but that has to accompany a healthy diet ya know|1 I guess the government failed yet again Have they not heard of supply rotation FFS what do we pay taxes for|0 She lives in London with relatives shes not just here on holiday or to get healthcare|1 You are stupid|0 Nobody knows the test kit better than me|1 Freaking hate this I know its partially rationalizing in their mind but it really bothers me Me and all my family fall into the about to get buttfucked category and we were a happy family before china released this lovely bug|1 Oh wonderful |1 Swhy I wouldnt vote Buttegieg Medicare for All who want it Fuck that shit And he dropped out because he was pandering to the establishment The right picked Trump when they got mad The left is picking Bernie|0 Oh thats better then|1 And it is only a crapshoot for false negatives If someone gets a positive they are almost certainly positive which is still quite helpful in terms of getting their contacts to selfisolate or get tested If someone tests negative its more of a maybe might have sampled too early or swabbed poorly|1 As a Swede Im not at all surprised There were shortages of medical materials before the coronavirus was even a thing Too many budget cuts tbh|0 Yeah Im staying away from my parents I could be asymptomatic or just have mild symptoms but I could put them in harms way Theyre having a hard time understanding that|0 Lol Italy just exported a case back to China Things have come full circle|1 Wheres the bailout for restaurants and bars|0 CWD is only an issue in certain parts of certain states Right|1 If anything Taiwan should be on the top of that list Literally thousands of Taiwanese worked in mainland China Current number of cases in TW 42 Yes 42 The government implemented symptoms checks before anyone can enter public places such as schools wide spread education on sanitary practices and distribution of sanitizers super fast response by the custom to identify and ban travels tofrom high risk locations Also very quick and stringent quarantine protocols for anyone suspected of being infected It should be the model example for countries anywhere to learn from how to deal with a highly infectious diseasex200BBut of course since Uncle China said TW is not a country WHO will just keep on pretending it doesnt exist and staying incompetent instead of maybe actually learning what an effective protocol looks like|1 The worry is about elastic bands on some of them|0 I hate that Its also disturbing how many people look down on you for having any sort of hope of treatment|0 Well we have 20 years to catch up again|1 Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition rules are available for free Its a great way to find some escapism and have some adventures and laughs with your family as we go through this|1 Good luck with that Most slots are booked up for nearly a fortnight|1 Exactly The ones making these decisions will be at the front of the line to get the best care While everyone else will be wondering if they will even get seen|1 The US would be a lot better of if their president was an ordinary idiot|0 Unfortunately you cant snap your fingers and create paid sick leave for people right now|0 I dont click on random YouTube links that people cant be bothered to even say what its about|1 Bruh this is so biased Japan literally gave up on testing|0 Im in WA too and I havent noticed anyone going too crazy just yet and I livework not far from Kirkland where at least one of the deaths happened My workplace is taking more precautions and my boyfriend says his workplace is allowing people to work from home now I am going to stock up on some supplies though Im worried but trying not to get worked up over it|0 Reddit Twitter and Insta are mainstream now There are other sources that are uncensored Note that uncensored means very good for science and inquiry but horrible for quality of information and message control If you were calling for tighter moderation on reddit over past month you should probably stay here|0 Pollution is horrible in Seoul Wonder how that plays out|0 The death rate cannot truly be assessed at this time The case fatality rate deathsconfirmed cases will likely decline as testing becomes more widespread With the degree were undertesting right now asymptomatic and mild cases arent being recorded as COVID19 which makes the disease look deadlier than it truly is Lowering the true death rate will depend on new medical interventions like effective antivirals and social interventions to reduce contagion as much as possible|0 60 of what Pay|0 If you had 200k I would already class you as rich|1 Ignore I have a repiratory infection right now and I just tell people Im contagious then they start shaking|0 If the virus live sin the lower part of your lungs you could spit up a lot of mucus void of virus particles Ultimately we need bloodbased antibodyELISA tests|0 If you cant you cant But you can still help by following the guidelines of how to not contract and or transmit COV19 That is in and of itself working towards the greater goal of ending the epidemic|1 Theres a huge difference in accepting numbers and body burning See my post history from todayI think the numbers are nearer 85000 dead|0 Nearly 99 of patients in China had a fever by day 3 of the virus Its the single biggest indicator of the virus and is the first symptom for the vast majority of patients They arent entirely wrong to view the fever as the 1 thing to watch out for|1 everybody has to die of something|0 Sorry for your situation if that means anything All the Iranian people I ever met were really awesome cool people I hope your friends and family back home are ok|1 Well worth reading needs to be shared far and widewhen you see young people who end up intubated in the ICU pronated or worse in ECMO a machine for the worst cases which extracts the blood reoxygenates it and returns it to the body waiting for the lungs to hopefully heal all this confidence for your young age goes awayTry to have mercy on that myriad of older people you could exterminate It is not your fault I know but of those who put it in your head that you are exaggerating|1 Yeah Im not really critiquing your analysis per se Im more suggesting that since its a summary statistic folks like to look at the superspread events compare them to the smaller spread events and get a value rather than including all cases Your post gets to that in spirit|1 The coronavirus family is at the extreme low end of the RNA virus mutation rate scale and likely well below all other RNA viruses like the flu As the family of viruses have a self correcting mechanism like most DNA based viruses and unlike all other RNA based viruses Making quick ao major mutative change very unlikelyHeres a source on the proof reading part if anyone wants to read ithttpsjournalsplosorgplospathogensarticleid101371journalppat1003760|1 Im sorry but thats just nuts no pun intended America should be ashamed of themselves|0 We know for sure asymptomatic folks can spread it Just like other flusx200BOk so lets say 20 days from being sick to death and lets take an verage of 214 days of contact to symptoms and make that a nice 10x200BSo now we have 30 days from being infected to dying x200Bnow LETS TAKE A LOOK AT WA On January 19 2020 a 35yearold man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County Washington with a 4day history of cough and subjective fever On checking into the clinic the patient put on a mask in the waiting room After waiting approximately 20 minutes he was taken into an examination room and underwent evaluation by a provider He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan China The patient stated that he had seen a health alert from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC about the novel coronavirus outbreak in China and because of his symptoms and recent travel decided to see a health care provider x200BSo this man flew into Seattle or some other airport 60 days ago x200BWith a R0 of even 2 we would have people dropping like flies in WA rn if mortality is anywhere near 3|1 Yes 100 I share this same sentiment Its exhausting|1 Semantics but yes|1 Id move Germany down to round 4 and Switzerland are probably in round 3 but otherwise spot on Also round 5 is going to absolutely be the worst|0 Maybe US is quietly doing the UKs herd immunity gimmick which I guess would required actually making sure selective quarantine efforts actually works so that such a theory of controlled but deliberate spread is even workable in practice for sake of gaining the needed statistics for depending on such a theory in the first place So I am thinking that haivng national guard around might be there for that purpose to ensure enforced but selective quarantineSo the herd immunity idea in UK has been explained by some to involve allowing the virus to spread over time but controlling the spread by turning types of quarantines in areas on and off as desired|1 There is still a lot that is unknown about the newly emerged 2019 novel coronavirus 2019nCoV and how it spreads Two other coronaviruses have emerged previously to cause severe illness in people MERS and SARS 2019nCoV is more genetically related to SARS than MERS but both are betacoronaviruses with their origins in bats While we dont know for sure that this virus will behave the same way as SARS and MERS we can use the information from both of these earlier coronaviruses to guide us In general because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures Coronaviruses are generally thought to be spread most often by respiratory droplets Currently there is no evidence to support transmission of 2019nCoV associated with imported goods and there have not been any cases of 2019nCoV in the United States associated with imported goods Information will be provided on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus websitehttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019nCoVindexhtml as it becomes availableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19support if you have any questions or concerns|0 I work in filmNo sleepconstant exposure to cavalier dumb assholesima die nice knowin yall|0 Wow I never thought about health anxiety but yes that makes so much sense I always thought I was the only one that worried about brain tumors and cancer all the time One of my grandmothers died of an aneurysm and the other from emphysema from smoking so my brain and lungs have always been the centers of my worries|0 possibly go the IV route or liposomally encapsulated vitamin C|1 It is bad|0 Preparing regardless of the corona virus is a good idea Another way to look at it is that you should be able to survive at least three days without depending on someone else|1 Commenting for followingstay safe|1 Seriously people STOP BUYING MASKS Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching Coronavirus but if healthcare providers cant get them to care for sick patients it puts them and our communities at risk|0 The flu kills almost 100 times as many people every year in Canada than the total death toll from SARS|0 I used a VM lol|1 5075 are asymptomatic Holy shit Theres got to be millions infected then which further lowers the mortality rate since theres tons infected not knowinglyEdit its still uncertain if those who were asymptomatic when they tested positive remained asymptomatic throughout the entire duration of having the virus or If they developed symptoms days later We need more information|0 We stocked up on the Lysol disinfecting spray and Clorox wipes s couple weeks ago Glad we did|1 This is the thing scaring me the most The early symptoms of COVID are identical to my normal March experience|0 Well thanks man|1 Capitalized generally refers to a proper noun inviting my joke about the product branded as Proactive|1 Ben Carson added to coronavirus taskforceOh ok now Americans can feel safe I guess|1 The general public typically doesnt know or arent educated on how to properly remove a mask Hence they can cause more risk than harm by removing masks improperly and contaminating mucous membranesEvery study that Ive seen contradicts this Rather than improper training the main factor as to whether masks are useful for the general public is how much they actually wear the masksInternational Journal of Infectious Diseaseshttparchiveis1Mwcb This one shows surgical masks preventing untrained wearers from being infected when living with someone who has the fluQuote We found compliance to be low but compliance is affected by perception of risk In a pandemic we would expect compliance to improve In compliant users masks were highly efficaciousAnd this one published in Emerging Infectious DiseaseshttparchiveisspCh6 the journal of the CDC was similar in that it looked at mask use by the general public with a juicy quote We present the results of a prospective clinical trial of face mask use conducted in response to an urgent need to clarify the clinical benefit of using masks The key findings are that 50 of participants were adherent with mask use and that the intentiontotreat analysis showed no difference between arms Although our study suggests that community use of face masks is unlikely to be an effective control policy for seasonal respiratory diseases adherent mask users had a significant reduction in the risk for clinical infection Another recent study that examined the use of surgical masks and handwashing for the prevention of influenza transmission also found no significant difference between the intervention arms 12 Our study found that only 21 of household contacts in the face mask arms reported wearing the mask often or always during the followup period Adherence with treatments and preventive measures is well known to vary depending on perception of risk 27 and would be expected to increase during an influenza pandemic During the height of the SARS epidemic of April and May 2003 in Hong Kong adherence to infection control measures was high 76 of the population wore a face mask 65 washed their hands after relevant contact and 78 covered their mouths when sneezing or coughing 28 In addition adherence may vary depending on cultural context Asian cultures are more accepting of mask use 29 Therefore although we found that distributing masks during seasonal winter influenza outbreaks is an ineffective control measure characterized by low adherence results indicate the potential efficacy of masks in contexts where a larger adherence may be expected such as during a severe influenza pandemic or other emerging infectionAnd while I completely agree that healthcare workers should be getting the quality masks before the general public and that the government should declare a state of emergency and ration them accordingly for that purpose studies indicate that even homemade masks are better than nothingNational Institutes of Healthhttparchiveis5Vm12 Homemade cloth masks reduce permeation even of tiny 002 m1 m particles by 50 with surgical masks reducing permeation by 75 even during realworld activities Considering that droplet transmission viruses like the one causing COVID19 often require larger droplets than that these masks could be even more effective against this particular virusQuote Any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection|1 Good old New York Times pay wall during a pandemic|1 Had a traumatic Spam experience when I was 12 Took a 10 day hiking trip on the Appalachian Trail On day 3 a bear climbed broke the tree branch where we had hung all our perishable food Had to live on Spam for 7 daysWill give it another chance Chorizo peppered sounds good|0 Join rbadeconomics|1 Meanwhile Poland banned gatherings over 1000 lol and schools arent closedyet|0 agreed quarantines are bad for the stock market and would only be used in extreme circumstances|0 Thats mostly common Chicago winters are brutal sometimes and everyone has the cough and nose shitting on Colleges are the same way|0 YesAnything that has been in a supermarket can have been handled or sneezed on by a member of the public Unfortunately its not possible to effectively sterilise most foods Antibacterial soap all over an apple isnt going to improve the taste likewise plenty of aspects and crevices in a bunch of grapesI for example am ordering my groceries online But Im painfully away the person who pulled them from shelves or the delivery driver that loaded the onto the trolly may have been sickMy procedure is to open a can empty it into the saucepan discard the can then clean the handle of the bin the can opener and my hands Then I proceed to heat up and eat the contents on the assumption that my kitchen is already cleanGive that almost everyone is going to catch this thing it might actually make sense to get it early before hospitals are overwhelmed I dont know This is a nightmare|0 Much agreed Thank you for the helpful reminders Stay safe friend|1 On the other hand much of the US wont have temperatures in the 80s until July That is a long time from now If 70s arent enough to significantly slow the spread that is not good news|1 WHO should have been disbanded and replaced after they fucked up the Ebola outbreakThey are a political and bureaucratic organization and thats ok for something like the FAO or UNESCO but its totally the wrong organization to deal with a crisisThousands died in 2013 and it very easily could have be vastly worse than it was Because they were poor people in relatively unknown countries everyone gave WHO a passIn 6 months I believe everyone will look back on this as one of the most epic fuck ups of humanity And fuck CCP too they are far worse and 100 at fault but we all know that|0 Most people dont even know what exponential growth is That said I dont think it will sustain the rate of doubling every three days Societies will take steps to prevent that In hotspots there will be an increasing percentage of people who have healed and have become immune which will reduce the R0|1 Sorry if the bad joke was not got|0 Its true that is an issue Its also compounded by testing delays in that it takes longer to carry out a test than to confirm death And with the current South Korean numbers the CFR using my method is over 20 which is unlikely to be true eitherHowever people take a long time to die from this disease From the reports Ive seen it can take weeks Really you have to follow specific patients or do some more fancy math Thats why I believe the true CFR will end up not being too far from the 134 that have been by WHO|0 elegated decisions to Whitty and Vallance the Chief Medical and Scientific Advisors almost completely so far httpsukreuterscomarticleukhealthcarecoronavirusbritainwhittyukmovingintodelayphaseofcoronavirusbattleplanchiefmedicalofficeridUKKBN20S10YhttpsukreuterscomarticleukhealthcarecoronavirusbritainwhittyukmovingintodelayphaseofcoronavirusbattleplanchiefmedicalofficeridUKKBN20S10Y Whittey was publicly saying we were moving to delay days ago We are still in contain|0 Thats not a bad move politically and in truth Let the right people do their jobs Regardless of anyones opinion of them our politicians will need to figure out how to keep the economy and society functioning and let the experts do their job|1 Id recommend not going to Sweden regardless haha|1 Uh sure but I disagreed with the metric the OP presented The thread is about positive relationships garnered from foreign aid which is an absolute value not a of GNIInsert country isnt going to say thanks to the US for giving 001 of their GNI Theyd say thanks to the US for giving us insert numberWhich is why the total matters not the s|1 More like work to eat mentality|1 Im not a fan of cruises but to add to your infoIf youre able to get tickets on sale you can get a very good deal overall Transportation room meals allinclusive Thats why we hear about some seniors pretty much using cruises as a retirement home|1 Cambodia has only detected one case so I dont think anyone really had high expectations for them lol|1 Wow my native language is English and I use rectify sometimes but I never thought of it that way before cool |1 No asymptomatic or not if they are tested positive it counts as confirmed cases in Chinahttpwwwgovcnzhengce20200219content5480958htmhttpwwwgovcnzhengce20200219content5480958htm23 RTPCR|1 Yeah I live in Seattle isopropyl alcohol is sold out everywhere Even online unless you want to pay 30 bucks a bottle on amazon|1 We may even never know if it was made in a laboratoryJust remember this when people say that it definitely comes from nature they dont really know and cant tell|1 Thats rough We have some of the same problems here testing is pretty limited though I understand our labs can only process so many samples A few things are shut down but work is still largely ongoing even for employees that could do their job just as well working from home though most businesses at least have some of the easy stuff social distancing better hygiene as a general policy The good news is the mortality risk if youre infected is going to be lower than what the data suggests since there are going to be many nonfatal infections that arent tested and thus not reported but fatal infections will almost always be tested and reported For a country that only tests severe cases plus a handful of suspected cases the true number of cases could be as much as 5x higher than what is reported based on the WHO China report that itself probably underestimates the number of nomild symptom cases a bit|1 Ive read that the PG or VG is actually quite helpful in protecting from any virus Dont have any links to handAlways a bit suspicious of these scare stories around vaping Like the recent scare that came from the US Turns out it was illegal THC carts But they tried to ban flavours many other countries banned vaping while carrying on selling cigs to anyone who wants them|0 This is why I never take a cruise 3000 people in the same boat using the same facilities for almost a week One lazy employee not properly cleaning coupled with someone sick with a virus mean stuff spreads quick Ive heard stories of tons of people getting sick from a cruise cause some idiot thinks its a good idea to go sick and tough it out|0 I work in physical therapy and have been lobbying to shut it down as acute care has ton of potential to pass diseaseNo one listens to shit|0 Will you be posting that here in this thread or somewhere else Anxiously awaiting as I am also in the Salt Lake Valley and visited several stores near Herriman early in the week |0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Banning flights will probably do nothing at this point People will still get in by taking indirect flights Tracking is easier this way|1 It doubles around every 4 days So expect to see thrice the numbers then Which doesnt sound like a lot when its just 1000 but then it goes to 2k 4k 8k 16k 32k 64k 128k 248k Just look at Italy The US is currently utterly failing to contain it even a tiny bit|0 Seriously dude I dont know what your problem is You ASKED me what I do to help my community Actually you just insinuated that I never help anyone What have you done besides polishing corporate knobs all your life|1 i guess but 80 people cramped on a view point is not safe|0 I think most of it has to do with the fact that WHO backed up China on this bio lab Experts around the world said it wouldnt be safe but WHO was like nah well make sure China does it rightNow they both messed up and WHO has to cover their trail as much as Chinas|1 First just like you said China has scientists Who do you think advised the government to guarantine the cities Because those scientists know that this virus is a threat because it spreads like hell and we dont know shit about it yet so its best to stop it even if it means drastic measures Because they remember that the last time they had something like this SARS they downplayed it and got fucked by it So it explains the quarantinesSecond as you said traffic and air pollution kills a million people A YEAR This virus did all this in A MONTH when it just begun and is still spreading And anyone with an IQ above yours can figure it out that it would just keep getting worse if kept unattended So they went ahead and tried their best to stop itSo really everything they do makes perfect sense and even if they overreacted its still better than downplaying it We should be happy theyre going for this drastic measures whatever the real case is|1 The cases from 12 weeks ago if there are hundreds of cases right now would likely number less than one hundred and are spread over king and snohomish counties No reason to believe that this would overwhelm any hospital|0 Like being a waiter in northen Italy wish me luck|1 So these doctors survived a pandemic They probably worked countless hours at the hospitals seeing countless patients Might have even watched doctors and nurses become sick from being constantly exposed to the virus They then have the strength courage and compassion to travel across the world to help out others They are a perfect example of what is great about humanity I wish them health and long lives|1 So youre wanting google to now regulate our schools as well|1 Most medical people know they are going to get it but they are self quarantining and primarily only going to work on those cases until cleared most likely|1 Tell that to little timmy or sally who are in grade 9 and are new to the work force Youre a fucking moron mate|0 That is just bullshit and fear mongering highly likely it will be way below 4 once we get a clearer picture in the coming months|0 Japan has a low caseload theyre hoping the virus will just go away|1 A friend on Facebook yesterday anounced her brilliant analysis of the situation most of the cases are in China so you dont need to worry Your chances of getting this are miniscule unless you live in Washington The post was about 8 inches long and full of logical trainwrecks like this And it was followed by a spate of people thanking her for the misinformation I am more afraid of human stupidity than I am the virus|1 If you go you need to do a 14 day quarantine so you dont kill your parents or anyone else Too bad you couldnt go camping or some other remote activity in Northern California to limit the spread Please get a face mask and at the very LEAST wear that on the flight when you come back|1 When youre confined to a room all day eating and sweating in bed A daily sheet change isnt excessive and brings comfort Most of the sweat will end up in your pijamasclothes The bedding will not be affected by it much if at all The only exception i see here is the sweating caused by antipyreticsThere is a small amount of salt released either by the bubbles popping in boiling water or the vapor pressure of a solid or a combo of both It worked for my oldest as a breathing treatment before we had a nebulizer Perhaps if you go breathing boiling steam but at that point all you feel is your skin being burned from the temperatureIf you do a regular warm water steam breathing its just waterIt would take quite awhile for vitamins to build up to become toxic and you can use the boost in vitamin A B6 C D E selenium and zincDepends on current concentrations in the body and how long you take double doses that you suggested The concentrations toperated and toxicity vary highly by vitamin C being of least concern as our bodies are good at filtering it out and removing it via urine if we ever eat excessThe Mayo Clinic disagrees httpswwwmayoclinicorgdiseasesconditionsfeverindepthfeverart20050997Then The Mayo Clinic is wrongYoure not causing hypothermia The fever comes down slowly You would continue to take the patients temperature and stop the intervention once it normalizes Ive done this with probably 150 or more patients with chorioamnionitis and it works very wellYou are putting someone with no clothes and dampening his skin to cause a rapid decrease in surface temperature At least you didnt suggest ice bath so thats good|1 F off man There is no indication of anything you said|0 Yeah I was planing to go and buy my usual week to week grocery yesterday I only need to feed myself so I dont need to buy in industrial quantity if I do Ill just end up wasting it No cart left almost no parking left and from what I saw at least a 20 minutes line at the cashes which almost never happen I ended up only buying what I actually needed and took the express lineFrom what Ive heard that same store had 40 minutes lines at 7am this morning and by the number of cars I saw during lunch time its not going slower anytime soonEdit We are not a big community Even when big snow storms are announced the lines are not that long|0 Thought policeNo thanks|1 Last season I was seated at a Pho restaurant when I noticed the server and workers cutting up the herbs all hacking and sneezing I got up and walked out It is unfortunate that some restaurants disincentivize employees who call in sick|0 Thank you|1 Thanks sounds interesting|1 Here comes the shit show folks|1 Its as if the Mayor said only leave your home for food medicine or any other reason you might want to leave your home I dont have a problem with this other than it doesnt seem to me to be a major escalation over steps that were already taken with closures of business|1 Same Took my stitches out at home because fuck that|0 I read this to the tune of We Didnt Start the FireYou win Reddit today|1 Bugs still dont get acknowledged or fixed Sometimes the whole world raids an event Pokmon for two hours and no shiny has been sighted There is no problem on our end says Niantic and then silently fixes it so its solved 10 minutes later but gives no refunds for items used I stopped playing a few months back because I refuse to support this horrible company any further The only reason this game works is because it uses the Pokmon IP They wouldve gone bankrupt if they pulled this shit with original contentan unknown IP|0 Jokes on you system|1 Where my Bs at Lol How is this hitting us|1 Should you cough into your mask or remove your mask to cough into your elbow Coughing into your mask sounds like its just gonna stick mucus all over the inside of the mask cover|1 Great update and thank you for using emojis to make things easier to read and more clear|1 Where I live they are keeping schools open because they say it is safer than sending kids home and having them interact with babysitters I dont know what to think anymore I think in a week it will all be different|1 Thats my countyjust trying dark humor i guess|1 Interesting Can you get a letter from the department head stating that you are in a very good position to graduate or something along that line At least to give the employer confidence that youre still likely to finishAnd you said the capstone cant be continued remotely Can you pick it up where you left off and have an abbreviated period and graduate earlier than the end of the next semester|1 Young people have died and have been in serious condition and some arent sick previously|0 So there able to test in Afghanistan but not The United States|0 You assume you are everyone You are not Besides with automation Im not really referring to employment here More along the lines of safety and security for US citizens to have the medical devices drugs masks etc they need when they are needed Unless you want to continue to be held hostage from these goods from China I surely do not and it think its a travesty we are at this point to begin with|1 This info is like a week old Are they even still releasing the death ages|0 It might only be worse if you say anything about Not feeling the bern How is it the ccp is allowed to ruin the reddit Seriously what are they doing just reporting posts|0 In Hong Kong thats exactly what happened during the SARS epidemic And 20 years later with the Wuhan Flu virus upon us facing the most expensive housing found anywhere on the globe the youth are saying the exact same thing except they aint joking|0 They were wrong and picked the wrong side June 1989 was an inner party fight It wasnt about protestors but it was about securing power in the party and preventing the spread of protests against the party which had only recently secured a hold on the country Everyone mowed down in the street was killed to keep the Party from fracturing Comparable to the night of the long knives Millions were purged out of the party and lots of high level prodemocracy party leaders were removed forcibly I dont think it was moral but I dont think governments are moral entities|1 Its always bothered me when I visit The first time I was there I treated it like mexico used bottled water for EVERYTHING Later I basically decided like you apparently have that the issue isnt pathogens but heavy metal toxicity etc So now Ill use it for brushing teeth at least but never drink it make tea coffee etc But how do you know what restaurants are doing Every time I order a drink or pour tea at a restaurant Im thinking where did they get the water|0 Anything that speaks bad of our dear King of the United States is fake news He is the best leader he know the best and the most loyal people Many people trust me say that we are in a new age of Greatness|1 Why are some infected under home isolation instead of hospital|0 The EU is closing their borders I really wish that certain perfidious allies could stop the food drain off of the Europeans plates|1 The same with the 2 in the UK Authorities are like Were looking for close contacts of the people infected but we arent going to tell you their age sex or where theyre from Good luck|1 I started stocking up about 3 weeks ago Nothing crazy but I at least have a months worth of food and cleaning supplies Last week I have been buying medicine and and things like drink additives for flavored water and other luxury items My biggest concern is I have my parents living with me Ron their 70s Luckily I live on over to acres and they can stay busy if a quarantine ever happens We have a garden and tons of games to keep us busy if we have to hold up for any period of time|1 I hate these regional splits they dont give enough granularity This guy is doing a good job at trying to give more location specific breakdowns with Sources httpsshenoygithubiocoronavirusUKhttpsshenoygithubiocoronavirusUK |0 Yes but the immunomodulatory benefits of HQ occur after 3 months of taking it Thus my supposition that HQ is being investigated for the promise of its in vitro AntiViral benefithoping that it will do the same in vivo For the cytokine storm that devastates pts bodies and leads to death Im saying the the much more potent and fast acting biologics are more likely to be helpful for ICU patients|0 Sounds like he went down amidst a crowd of redditors|1 Thank goodness the potential consequences of the parade couldve been disastrous|1 Did you think Iran would bomb us They dont have the logistical capability|0 I was just starting to get in good shape Im sad this will ruin my gym trips for awhile|0 Not kidding In Italy food is LIFE No worries on having enough food|0 I wonder when people will realize more than COVID19 was released from the Wuhan labThere was another drop dead virus released It is the real reason people are collapsing and dying so suddenly in the videosIt is a different virus using the cloud of COVID19 as cover|0 thank you Honestly your story sounds worse than mine I wish you well and my thoughts and prayers are with you Something is amiss with the system its broken|1 This conspiracy theory is trying to be everywhere and its just embarrassingly bad It takes a truly mediocre level of scientific literacy to even think it sounds plausible but Im sure well see it everywhere before long|1 Dont forget that we will be hitting the steep part of the hockey stick of exponential growth in infections at the same time|1 were fucked|0 Im slightly worried yes But Im not panicking And if Im not panicking you shouldnt be either unless you live closer to Wuhan than me|1 THANK YOU Finally someone besides me points this out Im not saying COVID is as overhyped as H1N1 was its already causing major tragedy in Italy after all but its likely still not even close to as bad in reality as it currently seems|0 I saw where California claimed Amazon wanted 200 for name brand hand sanitizers which is crazy Money is all anyone wants and willing to do anything to get|1 Cancelling as many things as possible now is a good idea be proactive not reactiveThough One comment I read elsewhere was if you cancel primary school then grandparents are often called on to look after kids That means the elderly are not able to minimise their social exposure |1 Do you know of any organization who is taking volunteers to do this within their communities I think its a great service and would be interested in getting involved when it comes to that|1 More details here httpsmultimedia3mcommwsmedia409903Orespiratoryprotectionagainstbiohazardspdf The key to how long and how many times they can be worn depends on how they are handled and what they are exposed to whether visible contamination is present or excessive external moisture The filter of the masks gets MORE effective over long term use which eventually makes it harder to breathe through Edit to be clear Im not saying it is good to be reusing them for extended periods of time but that it can be done and can still be effective In my experience after 3 4 days if you havent handled them very carefully you start to lose the seal around the bridge of your nose The alternative is surgical masks or no masks at all|1 The maverick 88 is mint Get the version with the 8 shot tube If you want slugs make sure they are rifled Winchester supers are really cheap hollow point slugs that are reliable Pick up some 00 buck and my personal favorite 4 buck 4 buck is great for general home defense it shoots out 27 22cal pellets at 1200fps It will absolutely obliterate any non armored threat at home defense range the best part is it wont over penetrate through a decent wall 00 buck and especially slug you gotta be very careful of what behind itAlso only get 2 34 shells 3 shells might have a bit more power but the chances of a short stroke or hang up ejecting is much higher Not worth the risk of its for home defense 2 34 is just as effective Its not like youre using it against grizzlysAlso get a flashlight mount and a half decent light Always imperative to make sure you have a illuminated target in night time HD situations Once the adrenaline starts going its a possibility to take a shot at the wrong target in the darkStay safe and sling lead|1 My heart aches for his family colleagues and friends Its a sad day in the end he died a hero and his name will go down in historyRest in peace Doctor You selflessly sacrificed yourself suffered and ultimately died so countless others could live Its an honor to know of your name and contributions to China and the rest of the world We the world will make sure that your story lives on|1 Likely quarantined This sidebar states no hoaxes so hopefully it wont be quarantined|1 They stopped reporting cases because the numbers were false to begin with and the virus pandemic is growing and spreading too fast so they dont have accurate numbers to begin with|0 Edward SnowdenYeah but were talking about highly classified information in his case not censorship on Facebook That is not applicable to the initial argument wuyump7 made and is a whole another debate about what deserves to be confidential what level of access should citizens have etc That is absolutely a worthy discussion|1 Time for these companies to cut ties with the Chinese Communist Party|1 I will be messaging you in 3 months on 20200614 182815 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202006142018281520UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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supporter and I know its a tough deal but he has handled it like shit bumbling Biden would be worse Bernie would be awful Where is real leadership|0 Find a nurse at a hospital icu and give them If you dont want to go then call the hospital for best mailing address|1 Gun stores started seeing a similar run on weapons and ammunition as the panic intensified no no no bad america Come on guys I always thought that movies got it wrong ya know like ppl wouldnt go that crazy bit sadly they were right Be safe out there everyone|0 RB Leipzigs coach gave a better answer Something along the lines of you dont ask a virologist how they think my team will play on Saturday so why are you asking me this|1 Whaaaaat Thats crazy Jeeze I hope neither of us catch it before our due date Neither of us have long left so hopefully that doesnt happen|1 At least we are a proactive shithole am i right fella|1 Thought it was suppose to go to 0 in April when the weather gets warm|1 I never got the appeal of cruise shipsYoure stuck in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of annoying drunk people on a dirty hunk of metal|0 Who are you talking about Im in my 60s and I never met an authority figure I trusted It isnt going to happen now Please dont generalize about an entire age group|1 Feel free to discuss it elsewhere wwwredditcomrAlternativeHealth If you do find a crystal that can cure the virus under the full moon please test it and let us knowThe doctors and people who trust the scientific method will be stay in this sub|1 Because the responsible government agency advises against testing asymptomatic cases Exactly like the man in this article No symptoms no test|1 Yes|1 In Germany they also dont test everyone who has a cough and fever You need to have had contact with an infected person or have visited a high risk countryarea where there is a large outbreak|0 It looks to me like 20182019 has twin peaks It also looks like 20152016 has twin peaks but overall curve is lower20112012 looks like also barely has a double peak|1 Maybe its time people treat this more seriously|1 They hated him because he told them the truth|0 they arent even running tests in my county from the way it seems and someone died from community spread just 2 counties over|0 And hand sanitizer does nothing against virusesThis is wrong for SARSCoV2 stop spreading this false information Thus SARSCoV2 belongs to the betaCoVs category It has round or elliptic and often pleomorphic form and a diameter of approximately 60140 nm Like other CoVs it is sensitive to ultraviolet rays and heat Furthermore these viruses can be effectively inactivated by lipid solvents including ether 75 ethanol chlorinecontaining disinfectant peroxyacetic acid and chloroform except for chlorhexidinehttpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK554776|1 Nobodyyet but its in northern Italy now and it has just overtaken japan and those guys that are not talking about it have all been on their winter holidays there so in 20 days nobody is going to be talking about anything else|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 I just caught a koffing inside our house should i be worried|0 Also in France and have been very angry at the media govt for downplaying this Finally we see some real measures this week but after 2 months of being told just the flu people dont care|0 Colorado went from 0 cases to 34 cases in about 23 days and weve been at that number since If that number isnt rising then surely there are no more cases right s|0 they have the highest amount of cases if we exclude the cruise ship 49 cases iirc There are missing links as to how latest cases got infected and remember wuhan didnt start with 200 cases either|0 The problem with masks is that it is very hard to protect yourself You need the right masks and follow the right procedures and these N95 masks are hard to wear for longerWhat is however much easier is to reduce the amount of viruses people who are infectious shed But here it does not help much unless a sizeable percentage of the population wears them This would mean more focus on low quality masks in distribution and also messaging It is very instructive to look at Singapore Hong Kong and Japans spread where wearing masks always has been common Check out the slopes of the various countries here httpsstudylibnetcoronavirusgrowth|0 How long is the time until recovery for people who have gotten COVID19 Is it comparable to the recovery times for a cold or the flu which are typically less than one or two weeks|0 United Shit of Freedomland|0 everybody that believes its a hoax|0 Billie Eilish held an indoor concert in Raleigh North Carolina yesterday and Raleigh is an affected community Super shitty of her lost all respect for her over this|1 Oh man What a situation Not sure where is the worst place to be Aus or UK|0 Im not sure what they mean about size but generally theres no need to put space between letters and punctuation like you do for Chinese characters Your last sentence would generally be written Thanks a lotYour English is fantastic Love from the United States Stay safe and healthyEdit I see they pointed out that you were using a different character I imagine your keyboard has different ones|1 That is what happens when you hire low IQ people as anchors|0 Singapore is one of the most fantastic country ive visitedIts illegal to be gay not even marriage relationships are illegal and they execute people for marijuana possession They do some things right but theyre very very far from being fantastichttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiLGBTrightsinSingapore httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMisuseofDrugsActSingapore|0 Sounds like what the US is doing|1 The US has tested under 400 people according to the CDC How does this correspond to contact tracing and testing for 12 people plus all of those in quarantine It should be pretty easy to do the math and see if this is internally consistent As well according to the CDC we will not test symptomatic people with recent travel histories from China unless they are sick enough to be hospitalized and we have no testing for anyone who came from Singapore Taiwan etc|1 Ok that I can get behind|1 With the amount of people hes been shaking hands with his viral loads are going to skyrocket|0 You do realize that even the plague started out with a small number of cases right Granted this is nearly as deadly but its only in the beginning stages|1 Y2k was not a disaster because it was handled seriously Otherwise we would be partying like its 1900 or at best disco|1 Ok top of the already existing flu On top of heart attacks etc that cant get adequate care|0 Slightly correct The youngest fatality is actually 36 I think the second youngest is 47 httpstimecom5770924wuhancoronavirusyoungestdeath|0 When I found this sub I remember a lot of posts saying how theyre glad the quality of posts improved I guess it was around the time this sub started getting better|1 Lol|1 I hope so too People should be able to take time off to get well without having to worry about losing pay I want my sick coworkers to stay home so theyre more comfortable and get better and so that they dont infect me Even with sick pay and liberal work from home for people who can do so there are still people who insist on coming in when theyre contagious|1 I have a question I am not tech savy at all fyi but how does privacy work with this Will my personal imformation be exposedAlso my computer frequesntly disconnects from the wifi how would this effect the programEdit Can I get and idiots guide on how this works I am super interested but I am unfortunatly a dumbass|1 No clinical data exist to indicate that net benefit is derived from corticosteroids in the treatment of respiratory infection due to RSV influenza SARSCoV or MERSCoV The available observational data suggest increased mortality and secondary infection rates in influenza impaired clearance of SARSCoV and MERSCoV and complications of corticosteroid therapy in survivors If it is present the effect of steroids on mortality in those with septic shock is small and is unlikely to be generalisable to shock in the context of severe respiratory failure due to 2019nCoV|0 I was at Home Depot in Broadview today and I did see one employee wearing a surgical mask I felt oddly proud of him But as far as I can tell theres been no panic buying no TP flying off the shelves I feel like Im the only one around me who is aware|0 There are amazing people in China and plenty of asshats as well They are just like any other people they can be kind rude mean ruthless generous or any other human traits or any combination of human traits They may value certain things more and certain things less but no less human The issue is you dont report on a human doing regular kind thing you would report a human doing scummy human thing And the Chinese government doesnt help either in their rather hamfisted way have in one way or another reinforce some negative views For example everyone talks about Chinese money in Africa how many people talk about China sending treated mosquito nets to Africa to combat contagious diseases But its just part of life|0 Tough for me to guess so I just left them out seems like they can take more draconian measures like China or SK but theyre also more likely to mess things up and hide actual numbers instead of taking action like Iran|0 There are already quite a few mutations quite a few on the spike protien this will be seasonal We can only slow it down and hope antivirals prophylactically will work like it does for HIV|1 Yeah those monkeys are pretty fearless during normal times|1 Taking care of elderly people whom cannot fully care for themselves is not only a job but a big job I pay a lot of money for my mothers inhome care Id seriously take the government up on this especially if you are furloughed or fired So get a note from their doctor and you can apply for this benefit if you are indeed taking care of themBut I dont know if they count as dependents to the tax man|1 Yeah but people are fucking stupid|0 I do get that reference because Ive seen that hundreds of times on the front page haha|1 Coug Death Camp|0 my favorite is the storefront that just says DENNIS|1 Theres a reason why the Spanish flu is called the Spanish flu tbh|0 I like Mike Good statementx200BIve been discussing Covid19 preparations with people and the confirm they are doing things to prepare but then throw in but we dont want to panic I dont like it when they say this As if preparing for an emergency is panicking I dont get it Maybe they say that so Ill stop buying toilet paper and there will be more for them|0 Just posting here so I dont forget to come back and check for these sources that the dude is totally going to post any second now|1 Dr flu prepare for the achoo|0 To be fair its looks better than the Homeland Security lines this weekend at the airports At least these ppl are outside|1 With a practical demonstration|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 I had heard this kind of thing for a while and really wasnt convinced but damn The tone of it lately combined with the relative lack of new posts despite a fuckton of new users is alarming And nothing even slightly edgy|0 I think its setting in I watched the people in my office today finally start to come to terms with it My coworker put on the news and they were all speechless over events and school getting cancelled|0 I hope this shit for brains kumquat gets jail time for the people he will kill by downplaying this and doing absolutely jack shit about it|0 Todays figures will be released later this afternoonNot gonna lie I know I can be quite pessimistic but pretty sure its all gone to shit and theyre waiting until the stock markets close to announce a monumental increase in new cases is it just me lmao|1 HPV vaccine is given to boys and girls for free by the NHS in the UK edit there is no way it costs 1200 or even half that from the factory gate|1 But Im young and healthy who cares about anyone else Im trying to get rid of my tan lines|1 Some smaller hospitals may not have the specialized doctors to help care for the critically ill And in rural areas that higher level care is often several hrs away via ambulance with an unstable patient Not to mention many hospitals may not have the staffing needed to care for their normal patient load let alone during a crisis But to answer your question when theres increases in patient volumes the nursingstaff often remain the same The US medical system like many arent setup to deal with large surges in demand It means that things will be more likely to be missed|1 I will pray for you to get some upvotes|1 The cruise officials keep claiming the ventilation filters out the virus but I have my doubts|0 Good points about the difference if the test is positive have already been made by other posters but what if its negative That means1 He doesnt have to selfquarantine for the next however many weeks not knowing for sure when he can stop2 It can be ruled out as a possible cause for his ailment which is important if symptoms worsen and he requires treatment|0 subzero IQ Darwin Award natural selection in action attentionseeking gene currently in the process of vanishingwhat else can I say|1 Yes I just went out once to fetch masks sent by a friend from your city we couldnt find masks anywhere And the medical team is from your province Thank you so much|1 We dont know this yet most of the time it is not the caseBut with this many people infected it might mutate and person that had it can get sick again in theory|0 How do you figure out if theyve been in Iran Iran doesnt stamp passports and people arent truthful if they know the truth will be inconvenient httpswwwtehrantimescomnews437345NomorepassportstampsforforeignnationalsvisitingIran|0 I used it a few years ago after a surgery My friend used it last year after her kidney transplant Her mom used it to help her recover Why wouldnt people want to use a legal protection to keep their job if they or a family member is illBecause its UNPAID Weird My short term disability insuranceYeah YOUR insurance Most people have no or little insurance Youll pay for it either way Either through an insurance premium or taxes At least with insurance you have a choice Healthcare is not a choice if you need it then you need it A human right cannot be provided by another personYou drive on public roads educated in public schools rely on public police to provide security consume food and water that was insured safe by other people paying taxes to fund government inspectors etc etc|1 Just because they dont die doesnt mean they wont need to be hospitalized thus taking up resources that could have saved the life of someone more vulnerable Their actions can directly cause the death of someone elseI wonder if they would be so reckless if they could see the faces of the people who will be turned away from the hospitals and left to die because of them Its always easy to be nonchalant when the people you harm are faceless statistics|0 most people under 40 could get through this virus with needing hospitalization The fucking boomers are the ones that need the protection and arent taking it seriously im sitting here washing hands watching my germs staying out of public spaces so i dont infect these old fucks and they could care less|1 It would if it wasnt disingenuous They arent being called racist for criticising the Chinese government Theyre being called racist for calling it China flu|1 We need more dedicated humans such as you DrHelen Chu I was in the hospital on New Years Day in Hawaii with flu like symptoms but it felt different than the flu my hospital sent me home with zero medication I was bed ridden for about a week I spend a lot of time in bed already preexisting conditions I had shortness of breath difficulty taking a deep breathEdit the flu test nasal swap was negative|0 This isnt all that serious even in recent times the H1N109 virus known as Swineflu infected somewhere between 1020 of the world population and killed anyhere from 150000575000 httpsenwikipediaorgwiki2009flupandemichttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2009flupandemic|0 He was at the same location as the person who tested positive He has not stopped shaking hands He shook a bunch of peoples hands after he got off the plane today|1 Considering Wuhan residents are rallying by singking the national anthem its unlikely they will rise against the government but instead see the government as what saves them Especially if the local government will be made an example of for being incompetent|0 No matter what age you are you should be isolating so that those who are already infected can be treated before the next wave crushes the health care system|0 I mean some maintenance exercise wont hurt but I wouldnt start pushing it anywhere near the level where your body needs to divert energy towards recovery|1 Moving the production to China was a wise move If we didnt move EVERYTHINGIt is so cheap to product in China so it is understandable to move it to there but we should leave enough to handle a crisis|0 I miss Obama |0 RIP All the doctors nurses are risking themselves to save peoples lives Please let us all do our parts by taking precautions and avoiding crowds to reduce the burden on them|0 Do they actually have it They might be the closest to an isolated country|0 Yes this Ive been sick twice and breastfed through it and my baby didnt get sick either time Its best if she keeps that babe on her boob|1 I assume they mean that there is going to be some aid to all Canadians they said they are working out the details this weekend and will announce next week They committed 20 billion to this effort|1 OneFC did this already and it was just fine Kinda nice actually Although I will miss the crazy Brazilian crowds chanting and screaming for every strike|0 Worked with promoters for ten years but sure|1 0 reanimated if you trust Chinas numbers|1 Fuck I hope they dont either heres mine I live with my Dad 58 and Grandma 89 in central Connecticut They are all the family I haveDad has lung complications thanks to asbestos and general fiberglass exposure no cancer as of yet Grandma is generally not in good health due to many things I dont want to list outBoth of them are going about their days like nothing is wrong going out shopping or whatever They wont listen to me and Im scared for them|0 The CDC has stopped testing for COVD19 since March 8th Only outside labs are now testing Something is up it really appears that in an attempt to prevent a panic they are keeping testing artificially low to keep the numbers appearing small and manageable Source httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovtestinginushtmlNotice the blue graph the CDC has stopped testing in the US Something is up|0 Disneyland the happiest place on Earth and the last place on Earth you want to be|1 Nature is much better at weaponizing this stuff than we are|1 Ill be in the bakery getting a dozen jelly donuts|0 What action Not testing people Blocking flights from the EU after weve already gotten beyond containment domestically|1 because in theory one anecdote should be enough to disprove the hypothesisIf this isnt a joke it should beScience isnt done through anecdotes and a single data point is never enough to disprove a hypothesis|0 Yeah if he has the power to do what she says shes completely justified in calling him out It should be a simple thing to make happen then if thats the case and no reason not to do it Im sure he had his fingers crossed when he said Yes|1 Argh china sure know how to increase its world social score s|1 Oh I agree|1 17 million fatalities means the public become aware that is is more deadly than was first thought A fifth of workers off sick Ok so you see where a worker gets the illness the office is shut down Same with a supermarket if someone gets the illness Or if you work in a food manufacturers they get shut down Put 2 and 2 together People realise this is more problematical then they first thought And someone near them catches it There will be rather more alarm than there is now|0 I work in a crowded public place I wish more people would avoid usThe number of times I got coughed on by visitors last weekhas me wanting a hazmat suit If only I didnt need my job for health insurance and paying all my bills|1 Agree Next is HK that has excellent healthcare transparency but a more complicated situation with closeness to China and a population that is harder to control|1 Americans have been so inundated with propaganda they dont even see their own hypocrisy|0 A dumb twat in my extended network just came back from Dominican Republican with her unkempt family Claims she doesnt have to quarantine because SR isnt on the list She also works in healthcare Scary|0 Thats what they had said ban the trade in wold animals till the epidemic is over and then when it starts up again a new animaltransmitted disease will start up|0 So blow up 58 tests that dont meet CDC criteria for international travel or confirmed contact but skip people whove had confirmed contact and some but not all symptoms because fuck them right|0 You should check out some of the YouTube comments on videos about COVID19 The conspiracy people justified or otherwise I dont know enough about it speak on all of it are having an absolute field day From comments as comparatively banal as WHO covering up information on this disease not doing a very good job considering how many sources have the real information to WHO being a front for China to downplay concerns of a manufactured disease to cull the population of the planet to it instead being manufactured by Democrats to kill off redblooded Republican Americans and some Asian people for good measure Its loco bonkers over there I love it I dont stand with or against WHO so I wont comment on that in and of itself|0 DidntIsnt CCP cutting internet access to Wuhan Hard to check up on social media when you ahve no internet|0 Yeah I know but I think its just the immense population in China which makes it so that yeah a lot of Chinese people do it but like 1 of the Chinese population is still 3 times more than the population of my entire country Realistically if every Chinese person did as they say theyd need far more doctors and hospitals and I dont just mean now|1 Ive seen in the news that were entitled to sick pay in the UK if we have to stay home Selfisolation on advice from the NHS also counts I think|0 They can keep the school open for the kids who really need it for food and place to spend timeI am sure its a small percentage If rest stay home you have already cut the transmission rate significantlyI dont know why these politicians always operate in binary choice of yes or no|1 Gabbi is looking good thoughLooking good for what Putting another Republican in the White House No thanks|1 What money is owed to insurance companies All hospital bills sent out after youve been to the hospital go to the hospital Plus most people dont have insurance which is part of the problem in insurance based systems If people dont pay nurses and wings of hospitals start shutting down programs that help people get shut down until the hospital shuts down But before they shut down they will reduce their intake to only golden insurance carriers turning away anyone who isnt life or death so that means most people who need to go to the ER couldnt|1 3 months sorry if youre just catching up here |0 Me too if it wont be a main news tomorrow this will be shocking|0 what the actual fuck|0 Thats a good question|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Yeah I got two 100 tips and one 60 tip on the three tables that came into my last day of work Allowed me to buy the groceries well use in our house and not take a hit on my savings Im missing at least two weeks of work as of now and im sure it will be more|1 The team is already no 6httpsboincbakerlaborgrosettatopteamsphpWell done weOn the other hand Im not getting enough tasks to feed my cores looks like http timeouts etc we might be stretching the infrastructure a bit|1 Im not saying its happening now but it would happen if everyone would rush to the ER at the first sign of any kind of symptoms like a fever or a cough when theres no reason to assume it could be nCOV19|1 httpswwwgooglecomhkampsnypostcom20200229chinaofficialsknewofcoronavirusindecemberorderedcoverupreportsaysampFYI people in China do not enjoy freedom of speech like u do|0 2000 not great not terrible|0 Youre welcome I spent the last 10 minutes scrolling through and found nothing of use on which should be a useful subredditThis subreddit contributes nothing other than trying to create panic Luckily the vast majority of the population wont see it|1 I think you put too much value on this type of information The intelligence agencies have enough on their plates And then what are they supposed to do next dispatch commandos in helicopters to rope down and push the delete key on the postings And CDC does not have its head up ass They are completely muzzled by the White House and cannot do what science and health would dictate|1 I mostly just wanted one to walk my dogs in my neighborhoodnot likely to encounter very many people But I agree better than nothing|1 I have concerns that people with just a cough wont self isolate if they dont get a positive test especially as the government hasnt come forward with any financial mitigation measures for the population If you need to work have a slight cough and no access to testing youll probably end up going into work If you need to work have a slight cough but test positive and are forced to self isolate you wont go to work|0 I fucking hate Ford and everything he stands for but Im glad he declared a state of emergency here Trudeau should follow and make it national|0 Yeah no This math is simple Obviously if you test everybody fatality rates will be lowerItaly only tested people with severe symptoms Therefore the fatality rate was higher South Korea tested everybody Testing doesnt prevent spread or treat sickness It only gives you an accurate number of the total number of cases|0 Merrily We Go To Hell|0 Sounds like the way Milwaukee is partitioned stay safe nonetheless|1 A nice drop in China and Italy Thats good news assuming China is telling the truth about its numbers|1 Dont know what dicks you have sniffing but mine smells like roses |1 Sorry meant to direct reply to this Were alreadyIn the process here and most the first responders are down Not that any mainstream media would ever say that|0 And effective |1 that giant shield called bullshit religion would be a nice start|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Costco had no carts available Walmart in Stoney Creek was noticeably busy for a weekday afternoon but nothing intense|0 Im Italian and I was like that well not really I was saying it might be a pandemic but I was only scared of it mutating and fatality rate rising amongst young people as wellTheres no more bed at the ICU in my hospital and I learned young people that have it bad still get their lungs fucked for lifeReality is gonna hit them right in the face|0 So if the death rate is 71 todayThe average time to die is 2 weeksThe average death rate is 1Infected doubles every 4 daysWe can use math to work out actual cases from deaths The above math may need to be adjusted but 2 weeks ago we can average that 7100 were infected from the death rate being 1 Then we 2x2x2x15 for the 14 days we would have estimated cases of 85200|0 Influenza infection would be considered a comorbidity and increase the likelihood of death|0 Well shit im on vacation in Rome atm and is supposed to go home tomorrow|0 If you get quarantined theres government aid about 450 per week per person in your household Some landlords have been awesome but more than a few are tied up in the bs of buy a place and get a renter to pay the mortgage|1 1 week ago 23 januari How many deaths confirmed infected in China and internationelly|0 Especially given that the federal government doesnt seem eager to do much more than throw blame and lie to the public|0 R0 of sarscov2 is AT WORST 39Measles 1218Even HIV has a bigger R0 of 5Im ignoring the transmission rates because they are irrelevant in the context of what hes saying|0 So sad|0 I saw it suggested to buy gift cards from local restaurants you like as well|1 I know 2 people whove passed from pneumonia in the last 2 weeks prior to that in 30 years Ive known one Im reaaaaaally not trying to jump to a conclusion but Im now curious|1 When places like the Philippines have basically closed their churches in response to the virus Vatican City is being extremely idioticedit Changed my insult directed towards the Vatican to a less ableist term|0 me American otaku Im jealous|0 My father legit believes this is a Chinese bioweapon that they created to further destroy western manufacturing and that they started it in China so it would spread to others and theyd regain control of their economy by the time it hit everyone elseI asked him where he heard it and he frustratedly threw his hands up and went Ok well I guess it was all a lie I heard then huh and I went Yeah probably At least you realize that now|1 really had no good answerIts obvious theyd rather let people die than let the movie leave the states|0 Indoor people have family partners and jobs Do you truly believe all human contact in Beijing has stopped No touch with a mother no kiss with a boyfriend no touching the same elevator buttons Please It may go more slowly but high chances are that it will spread like any other fluAnd even in the remote case you are halting its spread right now How many months will you keep behaving like that All wearing masks nobody touching half of the companies closed no traveling etc And how many months can china maintain Hubei blockaded Not only Hubei majority of eastern regions have already more than 100 confirmed cases Beijing will be isolated from all china for 6 months 8 12 24 Please optimism has a limit|1 all good the stock market results were giving whatever what was going on away|1 Those fat and juicy bonuses for the managers have to be paid out from somewhere|1 Yes Hes quite dapper|1 It would make a hell of a movie plot if Florida was saved by an army of Millenial Florida Men hopped up on bath salts molesting the coronavirus into submission I will admit|0 Jeezus ED doctor here Mildly sick people should not be going to the ER to simply get tested unless you goal is to expose the sickest of the sick in the community to a highly infectious disease There needs to be some kind of community site where the people with mild symptoms can get tested and instructed on proper self quarantine procedures|0 It should be illegal to be this stupid |0 Okie dokie and thank you so much|1 Go amazon go Thank you for helping Aint no pandemic gunna stop us|1 Okay even though they said I will have my job back when all this is over go ahead and file Its a temporary closing of the department|1 I think its quite obvious people freaking out and losing their shit would be much much more harmful than the pandemic itself if people dont panic they think they can manage it without disruption of normal life several hundred or thousand dead not that much of a deal on the grand scale if people flood hospitals in worry and supermarkets run out of food and absenteeism in workplaces rise and the supply chain and normal functioning of the economy breaks down then youre truly fucked us isnt exactly china with its centralized command and strong institutional capacity on the ground so theyre doing their best to not have people freak out things will go on like normal if people think if itll go on like normal and it wont if people dont think that|1 stop spinning what he said into something so you feel righti know reddit has tds so i wont go into it|0 Theyre adding 6 African countries to Trumps Muslim ban not related to the virus at all|0 Im so sorry for this and I hope youre able to quickly recover from the loss Im sure itll be hard and Im sure it was shocking from the sudden notice Thank you so much for sharing your story I knew this would be happening soon due to the virus but hearing your story still feels so surreal Best of wishes to you and your family|1 No because politicians are fighting to take merits of it|0 Yes there is if the economy does not show sings of recovery by the time of reelection and if the public thinks the president did a bad job handling the crisisIf the enonomy is recovering and the public thinks he did a good job during this crisis sere is 0 chance of him losing But thats what it will come down to Anything else is just chatter and not that important in the Hand scheme of things|0 I feel like right now is the most comfortable we will all be for a long time|1 The Olympics is a ways out but Japan is currently under orders to reschedule or cancel major public events A sumo wrestling tournament which is to start this weekend has been closed to spectators though the event is going forward under strict protocolshttpstachiaiorg20200301bashobehindcloseddoorsthegorydetails It will mean refunding 7000 tickets x 15 days This is the kind of response that we should be seeing in the US|0 I know And already within a minute I get people telling me that they dont understand why I think Im entitled to an opinion because I think that theres not enough information to confirm a 23 mortality rate that everyone is now using to sweep this virus under the rug and laugh at those who are paying attention to it|1 Well it worked for H1N1 didnt it|1 Funny how Texas says none but my job told me something different we own the facility where the positive test was confirmed How do they come up with the numbers Is it only if they came in contact with another country or do they count any positive case they find |1 Yes nothing screams stupid like having emotions|1 Yeah maybe 1 in 500 Less than dying from a car accident in your lifetime And about the same as being killed as a pedestrian If you are under 50 and healthy go about you life|0 Its not bullshit Venice is pretty empty late at night even before the flu|1 Well Americans in Europe can still fly direct to the States from the UK Ireland Bulgaria and a couple of others They dont have to return via Canada|1 Insurance companies If we dont bail them out They wont be able to do their jobs and pay people on claims GEICO LIZARD HOLDING OUT HAND FOR THAT SWEET SWEET BAILOUT MONEY|1 Yeah wtf were they waiting for|0 They said in Tumps latest briefing 20 who get this need hospitalization If you need hospitalization but cannot get care what is the death rate then Surely not the full 20All year flu causes 200000 hospitalizations If this hits 200m people 40m would need care Why have they not already declared martial law People are spreading this right now In 2 months 100m will have it|0 The US did one thousand tests therefore there are fewer people infected in the US than in the Germany s|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Already we are having promising results with antivirals and the fact that it responds to antivirals at all unlike HIV which didnt respond to anything we threw at it for years upon years or the flu which is highly resistant to antivirals due to decades of mutations means that its now just about finding which antivirals work This alone could reduce most of the death rate and turn 4 week recoveries into 5 day recoveriesYeah but also consider this as virus already developing resistance to some preliminary treatments more young people without health problems starting to die at the frontlines of this SARS 20 Also in the initial stages of the breakout doctors at Wuhan General Hospital after testing with numerous HIV antivirals and even influenza antivirals and combinations developed their own treatment protocol by using a combo of antivirals such as opinavir and ritonavir along with nebulized alphainterferon and it worked on most of the patients as progress and recovery could be seen However off late the same treatment protocol does not seem to work anymore and many patients are displaying signs that resistance has been developed with some regressing into a worse state indicating that the coronavirus has started to developing an antiviral resistance to these drugs Also current trials at Wuhan General with various new drugs are not showing any positive outcome What has been observed so far is that it is only the patients who are younger and without any underlying problems and a strong immunity system are the ones that seem to be getting better but that constitutes a small number compared to those infected or dying Furthermore it is now seen that many younger patients without any underlying medical conditions are also progressing into critical conditions after contracting the coronavirus and some even dying Among the new deaths reported there are already patients as young as 27 years of age having died from the coronavirus in Hubei without any underlying diseasehttpswwwthailandmedicalnewsnewslatestcoronavirusshowingresistancetoearlierantiviralsseemstobeevolving|0 Assuming much Try not to drop to the level of derogatory name calling were all adults I hope we can have a civil conversation Though for the record not gay sweetyI did click your link hence how I knew the Index takes gross income into account and seems to be one of the higher factors they take into accountWe disagree thats fine We can leave it there Take care out there |1 Doesnt sound like something that happens in a first world country a mini plague in homeless encampments Wtf|0 Anyone know how much pedialyte is a good amount to stock up on for when you get sick|0 This isnt entirely surprising 1 in 3 adults in China has high blood pressure httpswwwfuturityorghighbloodpressurechina1587072When you figure that the age of those deceased skews older half having high blood pressure doesnt seem to imply a significantly increased risk if any at all|0 I started feeling better when people around me started taking it more seriously My province is giving daily updates all large gatherings and most small ones getting cancelled and people moving to work at home And its a long weekend and Im ready to work at home if I can next week|1 By coughing hard|0 This will be bad 1million dead Americans bad 10million world wide|0 This is very true and kind of a double edged swordHospital cant turn you away for not having insurance but you also cant check and see if this hospital is in network|1 It made me question a lot of things even so that I feel like Im subconsciously avoiding himI dont think he essentially wants to make me sick hes just selfishly ignorant to the troubles Im going through and annoyed by my behavior since it wasnt like that before Some people just dont understand the psychological burden of being sick for two months nonstop and dont have the empathy to comprehend it Im not trying to annoy or hurt anyone I just want to protect myself and people around me that may come into contact with me as much as I can At this point with the fact that a common cold progressed into an ear and eye infection a few weeks back its not just the COVID19 that I want to avoid Im doing me best to stay healthy in general until I manage to raise my strengthen my immunity as much as I can|0 It is disheartening to read this this will without doubt happen this week most places in Europe God bless you hope this nightmare will be over|1 Let me introduce you to my friend Alzheimers disease|1 24 of chain smokers over 65 who get the virus certainly Young healthy people probably much much lower|1 This man is a hero its sad that he has to be|1 Well I agree a heart rate of 135 is terrible I get what youre saying Lay people may not understand all that Im looking at it from the perspective of doing a full head to toe assessment|1 Thats an awful plan and I cant believe the UK is willing to sacrifice their citizens on a hunch|0 I really feel for this guy his heart is of a journalist with no fear fighting the good fight for truth|0 Funny how Mexico now wants to shut down the border because of disease Weve been dealing with them sending peeps with disease and unvaccinated for decades Please shut down the border permanently|1 Lets not forget that Michigan still has no coronavirus reported|0 His condition gradually improved after a month of roundtheclock care and antivirus treatment|1 Yeah he knows exactly what hes doing These doomers always do|1 They are regularly called out during disasters When I was a child back in the 80s the National Guard came and picked out in amphibious vehicles to rescue the kids in my elementary school because the area the school was located in began flooding|0 Yes people think that they wont catch it and everything will be back to normal in a week or two They dont understand that everyone is going to catch it and that we just dont want everyone catching it at the same time|1 Carnival yes|1 I hope my wife comes across this on her reddit scrolling I quit not too long ago but I worry about her because shes roughly a halfpack to pack a day smoker She gets upset and flustered whenever I try and approach the topic but this may be the time to seriously sit down and say that now is the time to make the choice|0 Its because humans are incredibly bad at thinking exponentially This shortcoming transcends cultures political ideology everything Our brains arent wired for it An example I saw somewhere else recently really illustrated this wellLete say theres a lily pad on a pond that doubles in size everyday On day 30 it has covered the entire pond On what day did it cover half the pondDay 29In fact on day 15 it covers around 0031 and only over 1 on day 24 Viral growth like this follows an exponential curve Everything seems fine and then it isnt|1 Start watching the reports in the next week from those who were on the ship and taken home 17 were confirmed positive on the planes and they were still allowed to go home|1 There was the 98 year old who got better|1 In case you didnt know rCoronavirus doesnt allow local unconfirmed reports rChinaFlu is the place for that|0 Yeah super spooky You can find them on Twitter and 4chan Lots in the hospital on the street and one that looked like a hotel|1 Dr Fair are there any project already starting to collect data from mid november across the world for other people that might have died from covid19 and were just considered a flu death Is the death report a global standard or a Country lets say Italy is considering a 85yo dead from an heart attack but positive to this particular virus a covid19 death while another Country lets say Germany isnt|0 He just cut CDC funding|0 There are a lot of elite folks that have a serious God complex|1 Fucking patriots Love em Hope they get a goddamn order of Canada when this is all done for keeping us fed|1 Sportclips is doing absolutely nothing All they have said is to clean more and dont shake people hands This barely does anything Since we are constantly touching people I think their needs to be another plan of action for this company I have had more than 4 men come in and get their haircut in the past week WHILE being sick and management says just clean your chair really well Even though the person is coughing and what not The company should implement time off for people who have health issues not guilt them into coming to work It should be a choice made by each employee if they choose to come into work or if they dont and they shouldnt have to worry about if they are going to lose their job or not|1 We should combat their 50c army and the amount of disinformationPR they are trying to spread Theyve already brainwashed a few Americans into thanking them for their help Its disconcerting and awful how they are trying to make us fight each other at a time where we should all be cooperating The ultimate blame goes to CCP China for this mess After this all blows over if it ever does they need to be held accountable for everything they did|0 I homeschool all my kids Look into Homeschool Legal Defense Association I am a member and they can help you online with information and laws regarding homeschooling in your state Public schools will not help you to know your options My states laws are pretty good It consists of registering my school online and promising to have my kids do their school 186days a year I buy curriculum and we do the workbooks together The info is all free I pay 10 a month as a member and they will provide me with lawyers if a school district or department of family services tried to say I was neglecting my children I keep my childrens work and do California achievement tests yearly to make sure my kids are progressing|1 Youre the saddest docs Ive ever met|0 I like to think he normalized the idea of having a black president and paved the way for BO to become acceptable to a lot of folksI liked that guy|1 As a secondary school student I can do that maths Experts would be epidemiologists or the like Misleading title|0 Really failed to do the right thing today this is the time to put a stop to things implement changes put a plan of action in place and move forward Instead nothing really was done at all|0 A government that cares for and supports the general welfare of its citizensImpossible|1 What happens if a person doesnot become immune after getting infected and can get reinfected with slight variations of the same virus or have the virus dormant in their body like HIV This plan could lead to a catastrophe|0 Yep the local cluster was identified on february 21 and the numbers started growing up since then So if the starting point for the outbreak in italy is taken on february 21 thats a bit more than 3 weeks from the first confirmed case to now to around 25k cases|1 Surprised they didnt shut down a whole wing of a hospital for them as they should You ever see those guys dunk Its fucking spectacular Heroes|1 I worked for Tim Hortons for 5 years I ended up as a manager I think its disgusting how people are over Tim Hortons As someone who has had coffee thrown at me for it not being filled over the fill line and Pepsi thrown at me because it wasnt as cold as theyve wanted it Shut that shit down please|0 Howdy can we get this shit twice I havent read anything that would indicate otherwise but no one will say No you cant get Coronavirus ywice which scares the hell out of me|0 No majarity maybe Still doesnt justify how they do things|0 When I say treatment Im talking about medical treatment Her medical treatment would not have changed at all Her situation is sad Sad situation or not her medical treatment is the same|0 Also infertility is that a risk|0 No dont listen to them Tell me|0 Concerned but not worried Im checking the number of deaths outside of China daily As of 4 hours ago that number is zero|1 Yeah sometimes watching a video set like that gives one a real appreciation for physicians scientists researchers Neat stuff|1 literally told everyone to prep in january and i was being laughed at also people still dont take me serious when i tell them that the virus is airborne and theres a 93 similarity to hiv which means it binds to human cells insanely well and that it can cause damage to your nervous system and you get pretty much permanent lung damage you also dont build immunity when you recover since the virus mutates in your body extremely fast and reinfects you again which is like hiv and sars people still think its the flu which completely blows my mind they need to realize this is most likely a bioweapon designed to kill and its already been confirmed that its manmadeedit imagine downvoting this literally in denial|0 Yes his symptoms are not obvious at all|1 Understandably so We all have individuals were worried about and cant pretend were not nervous for ourselves too The reality is what we know is most of us should be ok But its not a nice situation Recommended taking some breathing exercises and mindfulness just to keep you calm|1 Ive been trying to get my family and friends to take it serious since midJanuary I am highly concerned but also well prepared no I didnt buy 18 packs of Costco toilet paper just one lol I also live in Washington state where its been an issue longer than most other parts of the country As a result I am well aware of the situation and ready as best I can be whether its this event or another in the future Normalcy bias has a strong foothold here but we should always be preparedI was 11 in 2001 sooooo definitely didnt have a shotgun Absolutely I will protect myself and my family if things get crazy Id be a shit husband and father if I didnt|1 Thoughts and Prayers dont solve the underlying problems We already get a enough of the good news from the CCP|0 Take that much higher rate with a good amount of salt Only a certain amount of people infected by Corona has been registered Which means that the virus has probably been more spread than currently estimated but also the mortality rate is much lower than currently estimated Its always like this with Pandemics numbers will be corrected big time in hindsight|1 This entire subreddit is like plagueincs message board Kinda puts it in perspective how grim things are right now|0 It might help but this is primarily spread via the air We need immediate relief Ive already had to spend time with co workers who are Ill today and Im fuckinf over it|1 BREAKING The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been informed of the first case of the coronavirus in a person who did not recently return from a foreign country or have contact with a confirmed case according to a person briefed on the case Officials have begun tracing the contacts of the resident to find out how the person may have been infected and who else might have been exposedThis is a developing story It will be updatedA new case of coronavirus was confirmed in the United States on Wednesday as several other countries also confirmed new cases and deaths and President Trump called for a 630 pm news conference with officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and others to discuss the spread of the virus He accused the media of stoking panic about financial marketsThe Dow Jones industrial average endured its worst twoday slump in four years Tuesday On Wednesday it was up 300 points shortly after open but closed down about 124 pointsOn European and Asian financial markets economic alarms continued to flash however with cases spreading and little sign that the epidemic was relenting after the CDC warned of the inevitable spread in the United States of covid19 the disease caused by the coronavirusFrance reported the first death of a French citizen from the epidemic as cases grew rapidly across Europe with Spain confirming eight new cases in the past 24 hours and new infections reported in Germany Greece France Croatia Austria and Switzerland A new case in Brazil marks the first known case in Latin America Although China announced a decline in new confirmed cases on Wednesday the number of infected people soared in South Korea to more than 1200 with more expected in the coming days as the state attempts to test 200000 peopleHere are the latest developments A new case of coronavirus was confirmed in the United States on Wednesday bringing the total number of cases in the country to 60 The CDC did not specify Wednesday how that person contracted the virus France reported the first coronavirus death of a French citizen amid a dramatic uptick in cases within Europe Most new cases are connected to an outbreak in northern Italy still the largest on the continent Brazil confirmed its first case which also marks the first known case in Latin America Statistics released by the Chinese government showed a decline in the number of new cases in mainland China an additional 406 cases were reported Wednesday morning along with 52 deaths All but five of the new cases and all of the new deaths were in Hubei province South Korea reported 284 additional cases of the coronavirus Wednesday raising the national tally to 1261 That number is expected to rise in coming days as the country begins the mass testing of more than 200000 members of a messianic religious movement at the center of an outbreak in the city of Daegu|0 Thats good Youre ahead of the curve Are you able to isolate much at home for the next month or so Or is that difficult|0 We have zero masks available in Pakistan And it was only yesterday that the first 2 cases were discovered God knows what people will do to keep themselves safe|1 Ok so I live in a retirement community Population 12400 Ive heard ambulances squealing by all morning We do not have a hospital nearby less than 30 miles away|1 Its quarantined Not kidding|0 Im fairly sure I go to that school Many students are worried too since after the supposed deep clean there were still marks of pencils on desks these were marks that would easily come off with water I think that theres probably gonna be a large outbreak at my school since not all the preventative measures that could have been taken wereAlso we all have school issued computers so it would be easy to have students do all their work online|1 That might not be the best idea I hope all is well but maybe some precaution needs to be taken and people might need to get checked by a doctor for any type of illness|0 Of course they get infected you dolt It just seems rather unusually that they dont actually get ill from itIts very odd but thank the gods for small mercies eh|1 Holy shit Thanks|0 Theyre in Oklahoma where the Governor encouraged people to go out just this past Saturday night|1 we have people in the West who openly practice support censorshipSome examples would be nice better than just yelling here|1 Yeah this is a very bizarre timeline|0 Do we have functional programming for GPUs nowIn any case immutability is a roadblock for performance It is almost always faster to change something than to recreate it The reason we are moving more toward immutability is because performance is not an issue in most applications But here it definitely is and the added complexity of mutability is justified|1 Its totally normal for a virus to mutate Its partly how lab techs can determine how the infection is spreading where an individual infection originated ect Its already aggressive But luckily its mild for the well being of kids and adults I think a lot of people will get this and get through it and live with antibodies for when it comes around again Protect the vulnerable people They need isolation Not the general public|1 Everything happened too slow They kept holding off on calling this a pandemic and I personally think that caused a domino effect across the world that has and will continue to cost lives They were not forceful enough This wait and see approach was the last thing the world needed This just seems like Monday morning quarterbacking Accurate but late|1 Hmmm that sucks I have already had that twice It would not be cool My hand sanitizer could be double purpose|0 They had the same advice a couple of days ago when my housemate and I had a fever better now Surely its better to ramp up testing and try to do as many people as possible than to be overwhelmed with people getting seriously ill South Korea have drivethrough tests and we have athome tests I dont get the objections that itd be too expensive too many false positives etc Youve got to nip it in the bud if you possibly can If this gets to Hubei or South Korea levels itll be impossible to control without basically shutting down the country|1 Are you in the US EVERYONE lives paycheck to paycheck here What do we do Quit our jobs and hope to find a new onewhen In 18 months when theres a vaccine We have some savings but not 12 3 years We dont go out if were sick but no one has the luxury of just quitting their lives|0 Hey you crack me up first time over the past weeks Thank you you have the potential there someone out there just needed what you have and nothing more |1 Damn I was refreshing today to see the stats from this guy Stay safe|1 I think today is the first day Im seriously thinking about prepping This is going to get ugly and things will run out The question is how soonEdit I live in Tasmania|0 What a joke of an organization Youre clearly more worried about funding and this idiotic notion you can protect the markets instead of protecting the publicTheres just about no way in hell youre going to contain it now Its been in the US for weeks and we realistically are only seeing a fraction of whats really out thereIf you wanted to contain it you needed to act a month ago and not worry about the impact on the markets either way global supply chains are getting interrupted so the best realistic scenario is that theres a stock market drop to accurately represent those lossesWhen bad should happens and the stock markets dont go down even worse it will happen You cant prop up the markets against reality and expect good outcomes|0 We only have enough tests for the rich and famous right now|1 Cured or recovered My guess is its the latter Yall really need to stop labeling patients who recovered by themselves as cured It gives people a lot of false hope|1 Im going laugh my ass off if she ends up being the candidate because all the candidates are dead from the virus and the DNC is like Wellyou never dropped out so|0 If you start messing with solar power youll realize quickly why plants barely move Still it is nice to decouple from others for some things|1 Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your lovely message I do feel like we are all in this together Thank you for your advice I am taking supplements also Being in the healthcare field I have come to accept the things I cannot do Its part of the job It I still show up and give it my all My job is hard so hard but I do it because I love it I love medicine I love helping people The hospital is the one place where I am not anxious at all I know what to do there Its my land Im in control of the things I know how to be in control of Its when I am at home is when things get dark Im surviving though It helps to hear from people like you I love the idea of an invisible link It makes me feel so comforted that you and everyone else on this sub is so encouraging and we are all banding together I will carry this with me as I work the next three nights And I am here to support you too Stay safe Thank you so much|1 I work in special education and I know so many kids who have medical conditions My own child has asthma We know another family who have a child with primary immunodeficiency She was attending public school and doing tball this year Theyve gone into lockdown mode All you aholes that think this wont affect you and you will somehow be killing only old people who dont deserve this either these are some of your victims I hope Karma clamps down on you hard|0 Even if the effects on reproductive system are minor we dont know for sure it will impact rates of reproduction indirectly|0 At my school Im a high school student we have 2 kids that are in the hospital being tested That happened yesterday They attended my school and WE STILL HAVE SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY All schools around me are shut down and businesses are about to shut down Theyre are few kids attending my school and everyone is calling offI dont have this privilege because I have used up my 10 days this year of calling off so I may not call off of school without consequences with the law broken system As of right now Im in math class prayers to Italy|0 Seattle flu study is offering free testing httpsseattlefluorg People have reported being fedexed the test within 2 hours Edit I dont know why the medical providers are not promoting this|0 Excellent idea Do you know if there are versions for iOS or Android as well My husband needs the PC because he has to work from home|1 My parents were looking to sell their house soon and move in to assisted living but with this they are now postponing They feel their chances are lower in assisted living To be clear not necessarily COVID but for any novel virus in the futureTheir current home is fairly remote already and my mom has like three full freezers of food and enough canned goods to last through an apocalypse In fact shes telling us we should move down and stay in her house since shes already so well stocked Not to joke about your concern Totally get it If your parents are in FL I would just ask yourself what is FLs plan if their senior living facility got hit by a hurricaneETA how close are your parents to a hospital Mine are pretty far which worries me the most Because it looks like if people get sick they get sick fast and need hospitalization fast So maybe the better question isnt how close you are to them but how close are they to a hospital|1 i voted for bernie but I suspect this crisis pretty much kills his chance People want a steady hand right now and biden is seen as this maybe illogically|0 i can totally agree with that being absurd yes id perhaps be willing to use stronger adjectives too|1 3 day old account 1 karma No one gives a shit about your incoherent ramblings bot|0 The current CFR in Italy is quite scary and knowing the number will only go up is heartbreaking There is only a limited number of ECMO too Hopefully as they treat more patients they will gain more experience I watched the Italian docs interview it must be so stressful on the ground there Heartbreaking|0 Ive had a bad cough for 3 weeks bacterial bronchitis not contagious and not once was I asked about my coughSuper big yikes|0 Its starting to seem like a two phase infection period|1 That costume probably helps keeping the germs away You know its like a full body armour|1 5 vacation days Thats ridiculous Minimum in Germany is 24 and you only need to take 5 to get a full weekEditAnd there is no sick leave Youre visiting a foctor get diagnosed get a paper and go home|0 I would have done the same thing Best not to make them act any worse|1 Pretty sure hes talking about the one in Pacifica They just redid it to be a canteen or something|1 lol oh no a stranger on the internet thinks im fat whatever will i do|1 the government is too busy giving handouts to billionairesWhat are you smokinghttpswwwwashingtonpostcomuspolicy20200317trumpcoronavirusstimuluspackageThe Trump administration wants to send direct cash payments to Americans in the coming weeks|1 Not really similar things happened with terrible management in during Fukushima disaster|0 Supposedly theyve been wanting to add capacity in India Singapore elsewhere due to trumps trade war|0 I have lived in Turkey for 36 years All my family none voted for them still lives there I fly back and forth at least 5 times a year My twitter account is full of criticism Id be crazy to claim Turkey is a freedom paradise but if you dont insult anyone or openly support armed terrorist groups youll be fine|1 Dont worry they are praying|1 Good analogy|1 Because civil insurrection by any idiot who can get hold of a gun is just what we need during a pandemic|0 I think as virus doesnt discriminate between nations race color economy etc world needs to come together to deal with it Its high time we let go mindset of greed hatred racism discrimination prejudice etc It isnt doing any favor to any one of us rather joining hands and working together can eliminate many problems |0 China is killing it with this virus|0 Bitcoin miners are happy rn|1 Seriously it looks photoshopped Is that the clouds reflection Under the bridge too And all the hundreds of little fishies Really Im not doubting that the canals are cleaner due to there being less tourism but I still think the picture isnt real Just an opinion though|1 36 death rate not great not terribleEditthat was a Chernobyl reference people The comment above is from Chernobyl Literally the first minute of the first episode|0 Because China is sending armies into the middle east and randomly carrying out drone attacks on civilians|0 I want to link it does anyone have an archive link please|1 Yeah my exact thoughts|1 The day I stop drinking bleach is the day I die|0 They are immune from their tenants if they use a property manager and dont have to see themOr are you seriously suggesting landlords are known for their social conscience|1 Stop it|0 So my understanding of this is by slowing the spread you end up with the same number of cases eventually but a smaller number of cases at any one time The advantage being that the healthcare system would face less pressure Is that correct It would also mean a longer time period before the epidemic peaks|1 I take it back Im back to feeling super crappy today A lot of congestion headache and slight fever again I had to make an emergency trip Monday to the store and pet store for food for my animals god I can only hope I didnt get sick there If I thought I was sick then I wouldnt have gone but that night I begin feeling illTheres no way of evening know if I have the virus because no one will test for it Im just stuck at home isolating myself for the sake of IF I may have it|0 Also adding to my list Buying used books amazon Stopped going to grocery to stock cant handle frantic people just doing amazon delivery now|1 Please provide additional information County Hospital|1 Assuming you are in high school even if everyone in your school got it theyd probably be all ok It affects old people way worse|0 My father is almost 60 a little overweight and type 2 diabetic Ive been telling him to get ready for this since this subreddit first started He hasnt of course and is still going out and doing unnecessary things|1 The Social Security Administration is overseeing it|1 I dont believe so Data from South Korea says the virus has a 5 death rate there Id say thats probably a best case scenario as well|1 I wish my wife was serious like you|1 what i mean is saying its natural selection isnt the nicest way if you were to talk to affected people but yes it is natural selection in that sense|1 its not that bad|1 Most have kind of accepted their fate from what I can see|1 I found this funny|1 Do amphetamines cause high blood pressure|0 Yeah its horrid Tried to get out of Washington but couldnt|0 CDC wont kill you for spreading disinformation Thankfully there is constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech in the USA|1 You know its bad when Forrest Gump cant out run Coronavirus|0 Jokes on you boy lol|1 i put in a grocery order through wal mart today and a lot of the things i typically buy ricedry beans canned tuna vienna sausages were out of stock so i left them off the order when i got my email that my order was ready there were ELEVEN substitutes i went there to pick it up and had to run in for something i forgot i got to the grocery section and the first frozen food aisle was BARE i took a lot of pictures because a lot of stuff was just wiped out or very close to being wiped out while saturday afternoons at wal mart here tend to be pretty busy ive NEVER seen it like this|1 What are you talking about They already are a great writerThe internet is awesome|1 Yeah then add all the bureaucracy and mandatory corruption and things slow down by a lot|1 Ive only been on it for the last hour but this sub has fucking terrified me Maybe a good thing|0 Also there are currently hospital resources for everyone infected If this turns into a global pandemic then most of us will be under considerably worse care then those currently with the condition Id much rather be in a Chinese hospital with Chinese doctors then in my bed in a western country with no facilitates available|0 I bet you she thinks coronavirus and anything else for that matter cant get her because of some strange illogical narcissistic reasoning|0 They refuse to believe it will get bad in the US Sigh|0 Thank you Jack|1 What a smart humble leader|1 Oh God A bride group on Facebook That sounds worse than being quarantined on this ship for two weeks|0 Id like to know what the actual figures for London are if they are weeks ahead|1 Its almost as if the federal government has been slowly sabotaged and undermined for the better part of 4 decades or something|1 300 odd that have been tested mind you|0 I understand what you are saying Id like to add I think I remember Lagos nigeria Has its first confirmed case so its definitely getting to less developed parts of the world Even if 100 of global human population gets infected and lets say after all is said and done that the mortality reaches 50 due to a bunch of factors that still leaves 35 billionish of us It probably wont be anywhere near that devastating Coronavirus at worst is just one note in the ballad of sorrow coming for the species climate change and ecological collapse are the face melting guitar sollow before the slow fade out|0 you just kill other citizens by the millions|0 I have fond myself crying several times watching the people in China Its heartbreaking|0 Poor baby|0 Do you think people are cramming In last good night out then|1 CityMD is urgent care which is different but more a replacement for what people would usually go to the ER for I mean more like postop surgery recovery centers Theyre more specialized which means theyre less well equipped than a general purpose hospital room and significantly less useful in an outbreak like this although they do their stated purpose just fine|1 If Pences want a test get a test rhetoric was true I and many other nonsymptomatic people would get testedI am hoping that I and the vast majority of nonsymptomatic people are uninfected and a test would show thatFor most of the infected people we can put them in a motel room Give them daily food deliveries This should not be that expensiveThe current reported counts are simply not to be believed because testing is so unnecessarily and immorally restricted We need real numbers We do not want Trump numbersIf we do not actively encourage everyone to get tested we will continue to get Trump numbers|0 Just so everyone knows FICO 9 the most current credit model treats medical bills sent to collections differently than other debts These debts wont ding your credit as much as nonmedical debts sent to collection|1 Sure Im aware of this But still you can tell that some country is more infected than other or the estimated raise rate based on the number of confirmed cases|0 Im really hoping they have another press conference soon with updates on whats up with the testing|1 I feel like this virus hits old and young equally hard in terms of severe pneumonia However older people typically have more chance of comorbidities that weaken their body beforehand and can sustain less damage while fighting the virus so they end up dying more before the virus runs its course whereas younger people have a higher chance of surviving just long enough to beat back the virus and recover|0 And then the government will blame people for listening to official advice and not using common sense like Rees Mogg did with the Grenfell victims|0 Got cop cars surrounding the buildingthis really is an American thing which I never understood police always taking the side of the business preemptively and employing itself to implement corporate decisionsin Europe at least they tell them to handle it themselves and hire private security if they really want to which cant do muchif workers riot the company needs to negotiate and convince them to leave not have the police intervene on some BS trespassing violation|0 And WHO said its not a pandemic so its fine But hey at least those bonds will mature just in time for the summer Olympics |1 Again do we have enough masks for everyone or should they be rationed for health care workers|1 Nah its terrible but theres not much I can do about it except vote Just acknowledging the reality of the situation|0 Well the common part of common sense is at a level that is much lower than I previously thought Common sense is unfortunately too common The common person is pretty stupid I overheard two nurses today arguing about whether astrology is real These are people involved in caring for other peoples health Kat Williams got a round of applause for saying something like you have to use your intelligence If people came from monkeys THEN WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS Watch that video of John McCain having to defend Obama from his own voter base when they were asking him questions about Obamas national origin and religion and then booing him when he didnt feed into the paranoid conspiracy theories and racism We dont want common sense to be the norm We want informed sense to be the norm|0 Old people are experts at not giving a shit Works well until it doesnt|1 Militaries will be sick just like everyone|0 Youre making strawmans here I never even got to opening the package Open with gloves then disinfect the gloves The contents of the package can sit there for a month before you use it to make sure the virus is toast Disinfect the contents of the package if needed earlier Not hard|1 I figured you did just wanted to make a joke When I was a kid my great grandmother bought me a 1year subscription and I was so happy I think I have brain rot now|1 Wow this is scary This makes me not want to get tested|1 They literally were at the frontlines not any different from trench fighters in WWI Rip and we definitely need to make memorials like we do for wars and 911|1 Looks like Seattles becoming the next Wuhan Once it hits the homeless population itll get ugly fast|0 The best way to reduce the probability is isolation It sucks but its near fullproof The moisture in your breath breaks down the barrier in N95 masks after a few hours I would be very skeptical of methods deemed to extend their effectiveness especially if the intended use of these refurbished masks and those methods is to avoid or reduce the need for behavior change Sanitizing may be more about giving a contaminated mask which has been worn for 15 minutes another hour or two as opposed to giving additional life to a mask which is beyond its lifespan|0 that he didnt get a response Sunday is really not a surprisenobody has open Sundays especially if he isnt sick yetthe rest of it being so unorganised is unfortunate tho I agree|1 You joke but your immune system is all you have against this virus Compromise it at your own risk So eating right sleeping well exercising etc at least do that much|1 Oh you are dead on Reddit|0 Did you notice left leaning media went from calling Trump racist for barring people from China to screaming that he isnt doing anything after the debate That was almost as funny as when Colberts audience flipped on Comey|0 In order to contract an airborne virus from someone they have to cough laugh sneeze or similarly violently expell air in your vicinity Then the virus has to enter you through a mucus membrane eyes mouth nose ect And the number of virus has to be sufficient to overwhelm your immune system low numbers will be eliminated and you will never be infected In an asymptomatic person they will not be coughing or sneezing often AND the number of viral particles they emit will be low While it is not impossible for this person to infect others it is unlikely You are jumping to a lot of conclusions without data to support them Im not saying that the virus wont spread or isnt dangerous but if it were as contagious as you say I suspect the number of infections would be much higher globally when you account for the fact that many infected people flew and were in airports while asymptomatic many of them more than 5 days ago so we would expect to be seeing some secondary infections by now|0 The batch of tests from like second week of Feb were bad NY finally got approval from bureaucratic nonsense so they could use their own Wadsworth lab over the weekendYeah check Wadsworth lab two nytimes articles on it|0 httpscnnytimescomhealth20200305coronaviruschinaaylwarddualhttpscnnytimescomhealth20200305coronaviruschinaaylwarddualThis guy says he thinks otherwise with only a small number of asymptomatic cases that dont develop symptoms eventually Problematic either way I guess on the one hand there could be a massive reserve of silent spreaders on the other the death rate could be in the worst case scenario range like were seeing in Italy|0 I found the artist and sent them a message Admittedly my Mandarin is poor at best and my written mandarin is basically English run through google translate so I hope they get it and can understand itFound here httpsweibocomu2962184681httpsweibocomu2962184681|1 Nicely done|1 What did they lie about Seriously asking|0 A local Sacramento news story was centered on this news today being broken to a man on the ship Was wearing glasses but the rest of his face whew|0 Appreciate these OP|1 What brings me the most comfort is the cruise ship with over 12 the people who had the virus are asymptomatic Chances are were gonna be fine|1 As an American I am so ashamed of this President I am sorry|0 I understand what youre getting at but in a lot of these cases happening right now its just people buying out stock at a store and trying to flip it That wont cause a net gain in the amount of supplies being brought in It doesnt increase how much hand sanitizer is available Theyre taking the supply that already exists and redistributing it at inflated costIf Costco had 1000 bottles of hand sanitizer and 1000 people each bought one or one person bought 1000 that doesnt make a difference in how much hand sanitizer exists it just means 999 people still need hand sanitizer Normally something sells out the store orders more no big deal But now you have to wait for the next shipment When does that arrive Time is too critical to wait for the market to find a new balance If somebody is bringing in outside supplies where did they get them Another Costco in a different cityI agree with the invisible hand under normal circumstances but these are not normal circumstances These people are not capitalizing on an opportunity they are being predators when people are at their most vulnerable|1 The US had anything but a robust response we have handled this alarmingly lax We have a president with no concept of science letting students come back from Italy without any screening to a state that had yet to see any cases Michigan I cant believe Im saying this but we shouldve followed Chinas lead LOCK IT DOWN And DONT GO TO DISNEY during a pandemic That is all|0 To me just classic CHF symptoms Leading up to her transfer to the ICU was just an increased difficulty breathing that wasnt getting better with treatment Even with a bipap machine she couldnt breathe|0 We have plans for that I suspect things would be a lot more surefooted with Pence at the helm even if one disagrees with him on all political grounds|0 Just heard that three cases were confirmed in Ohio locations not disclosed yet At least testing has started Stay safe friend|1 fiveday symptom clockThe keeping track with a clock idea sounds interesting but why 5 days There are people who have gone 14 or 28 days without symptoms Shouldnt it be a 28 day clock|1 Thanks for responding Good luck from Ottawa|1 Yes|1 This is just a test a distraction from whats really happening|0 There needs to be triag centers dedicated to testing So they can tag those that need to go to the ER from those that need to stay home and restOur hospital has been code red status the past week Its getting ridiculous|1 Have you considered that turning on their government could lead to a bloody civil war that regular people dont want China already had a bloody civil war which led to the ccp They definitely dont need another Turning on the government isnt as simple as it sounds sadly|0 tell me about it Im having to get my sister in law to tell my father in law to cover his mouth just because its better hygiene They normally dont listen to me until its way to late then they want me to fix the mess they created Wife is the same way Im really good at data prediction when there is enough data I know a lot of people are I do research before giving my opinion on something No matter how much research I do Im always blown off because my wife and her family have this weird superiority complexThank you though for your hard work and I hope you and your family stays safeEDIT Wish I was as good with grammerspelling as I was with researchcomp sci XD|1 Costs arent an issue for the test just keep on it Money dont matter if you are dead|0 You are 999999 safeYour parents not so much Your grandparents are fuckedIm not living in fearBeing prepared living in fear Be prepared and be informed Being a dumbass on the other hand will get you or your loved ones killedDont panic but dont underestimate this Dont be like the people who live on the volcano and are being told an eruption is coming but they ignore it and get swallowed by the pyroclastic flow|0 I just saw that NY is asking insurers to waive cost sharing associated with testing for coronavirus httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcm7knnewyorkgovernorannouncinganewdirectivehttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcm7knnewyorkgovernorannouncinganewdirective Hopefully this helps|1 Yes I thought it was an amazing one|1 This is the only guy on TV that I trust at the moment If he says this is what we should be doing then we need to heed his advice|1 Unfortunately we have a load of politicians and influencers saying its no big deal and trying to be cool Until they cut the crap a large portion of our country will think its just the flu|0 Agree been arguing with friends and family since mid JanuaryMe Plan ahead get food PPE etcThem Nah the CDC will save us Me Their job is containment on a nationwide scale not to feed youThem Dont worry so much you are youngMe I have old parents and family members to think about|1 I heard today a guy saying that George Soros started this virus and its just a hoax to get Trump out of office I cant even make this stuff up and I cannot believe I share the same planet with people like this|0 If Trump did it everyone would be screaming about xenophobia|0 We have to wait until were told we can come out before we can stop taking orders and start revolving in the streets|0 I see Ill look into it and delete if needs be|0 Yes because we shouldnt be punished for the choices of idiots around us lol|1 Totally agree|1 I dont think anyone couldve foreseen this that earlyisnt it generally better to wait for more info before spreading the panic around|0 Funny how people are saying its getting serious when the NBA shuts down and an actor gets sick What were yall expecting Its just the flu right|0 It is actually very much like the flu It is not the same but the symptoms are very similar I go to a university where actual experts reside and they had a seminar on Thursday They said that it is more deadlier because we have no vaccine that has proven to get rid of it or keep you immune to it Its also more deadlier because you can carry the virus without any symptoms for a very long time SARS of 2003 was very similar to it as well because the viruses are in the same group SARS much like the flu went away after it warmed up in the northern hemisphere Media wanting people to freak out over it is why this has gone out of hand No matter what we do 70 of the Earths population WILL be affected The only people that have a high risk of dying are those over the age of 80 and those with chronic illness The flu has been around for many many years COVID19 is a novel virus that people dont know how to control Sometimes we cant even control the flu Stop being so extra Kay Thanks|0 Sorry I didnt realize|0 Yes although its close to impossible to enact it effectively We share the bathroom and I still have to use glasses plates forks and I have to sleep in the same room with my sister although I moved her bed 15m away from me On a positive note I dont have fever anymore I can breathe normally and I put some cream on the parts of my back that ached and its basically gone I just have a bit of cough but Ive had it since January its a sort of nervous cough Lets hope for the best|1 Honestly there is nothing wrong with this Sure it might be outrageous but no one is being forced to buy this The person who does would not have had access to handSanitizer otherwise It would have just been bought up and shipped back to Asia by the international college students just like they did with all the masks At least those bottles are getting to stay in the United States|1 Were lucky since it developed symptoms before it spread noob player|1 Im interested with this too I started to feel shitty the last few days so I dipped into my reserves I stocked up to survive so healthy foods werent necessarily on my list Nothing fresh high protein and carbs easy prep and then moral boosting foods Would like to make one last trip for broth and canned veggies But again I feel like shit Lol|1 How did you think it was a conspiracy There was video of it forever|0 Oh Im pretty sure now that governments did it once for a legitimate reason theyll try it again later This sets a dangerous precedent|1 Good advice but I hate that this person is using a PhD degree and title to appear more authoritativeMy junior high music teacher had a PhD Hell most of US congress has a doctorate degree|0 We dont owe the government anything yes China has developed a lot since 1949 but its because we Chinese people work hard not because CCP is some awesome shitThis understanding spreading throughout the general population is exactly what the CCP censorshipbrainwashing apparatus is designed to prevent|1 Why havent we cracked down on bulk buying in emergency situations like this My local Kroger implemented a 5 of a product per person limit and actually enforcing it so we dont have so many selfish assholes like this couple in BC|0 Im more than okay with it Ive been ready for weeks|1 I would be careful if you are spending your time in the capital city There are already 11 confirmed cases and 300 people being kept in quarantine I would avoid getting close to people that are showing signs of sickness like coughingsneezing and make sure to wash your hands often especially after touching things in public places Iceland is also really sparsely populated most of the people live in the capital so you should be fine if you just take the right measures|1 We already have an abject poverty and addiction problem pretty much everywhere outside the metropolitan areasI dont think I can overstate the fact that this shit is going to change our country fundamentally|0 Im guessing the patient is extremely critical so they had to test and announce before the first news would be the death Im making shit up bu tit sis the most reasonable guess|0 Yes I have sympathy for them And so should you|1 My employer Boeing put out a memo Thursday afternoon that all Puget Sound workers who can work remotely need to do so through the end of the month aside from management who is still expected in person and atrisk persons should stay home 60 or immunocompromised The factory is still running normal operationsThe tech giants like Microsoft Amazon F5 have most staff working from home as of midweek but most people are still going to work as usual IDK what will happen going forward theres not many precautionary measures left aside from full scale closures|0 Thats a very simplistic argument this videohttpsyoutubeSHcqNVjGJN4 has a more nuanced view|0 Hard to tell if those are leg restraints for paralysis or knee braces but proactive unable to walk sick Yet|0 I think what Americans specifically those who will remain unamed fail to realise is that the reason why Chinas outbreak seemed so bad and fast spreading is because China hadnt made much information public until it got bad Back when the virus first started to spread there were only 22 people dead too But now that the entire worlds got its eyes on every single country with the virus 22 doesnt seem like all that much anymore when you compare it to a place thats had the disease for months|0 Why the fuck are they not setting up testing centers away from hospitals|0 Its a dead body people dont magically get teleported to the funeral home|0 Probably high volume of virus and tiny errors when removing PPE After taking off PPE and leaving hospital premise is also a danger zone Some doctorsnurse did not die from virus but from exhaustion related sudden cardiac arrest Over worked exhausted high viral load in the environment makes infection extremely easy The virus decreases white blood cells at the same time can trigger severe immune reaction that damage the lungs at that point its all up to the individuals body to fight Despite this the majority of nurses and doctors have not been infected So proper PPE usage technique is extremely important Not every doctor is trained well in using PPE especially if they are not infectious disease doctors Mistakes happen unfortunately|0 I feel you As all great compromises go No one ends up happy|1 Can people in shelter in place leave for work|0 I cant say shit Im almost done smoking a pork butt for 8 hours|1 No ones pretending everything is fine You dont know what youre talking about Perhaps you would prefer to live in Iran where dissent is forbiddenNo I wouldnt and that has nothing to do with anything I said and is a perfect example of what Im talking about You think Im a bad guy so now its okay to use ad hominems Youre a completely uninformed piece of shit spreading propaganda about something you know nothing of People like you are the reason the world sucksBlocked|0 No shame in getting wrapped up in what is likely to be one of the biggest global events in our lifetime You have realised how serious this is before the general public thats all|0 My man And yes please|1 This is a shit show Just know youre gonna get the virus at some point this year and God be with you what happens|0 That REALLY sucks|0 Oh hey there early bird Did you too get the the flu kills more people blah blah blah speech for the last few months as wellThis is one of the worst I told you so s ever|0 Well thats good news Hopefully this can be reliably used for more patients|1 Be cautious and hopefulYes and possibly make some reasonable relatively simple preparations Not simply because you might need them you may not but because some people find being prepared to be comforting If you have a well stocked pantry dont fret about food if the cupboards are a bit bare this might be a good time to do a stockup shopping trip If your medicine cabinet contains nothing but an almost empty bottle of Tums and some expired bandaids pick up some fever reducing medication tylenol advil asprin etc and some OTC cough medicine Grab a few boxes of tissues hand sanitizer if you can find it and maybe a good book if theres one youve been looking forward to reading we could all use a nice relaxing treat right now Thats all stuff that will useful in the event you do need to deal with a local outbreak but that youll likely also useneed eventually anyway Ive topped up my pantry and medicine cabinet even if I dont need it now Ill appreciate it next time theres a snowstorm or hurricane or someone in my house comes down with a cold|1 Yep Con artists usually never change Hes been going at it fullsteam for 40 years and is fucking relentless Just like TrumpAnd hes got a builtin base of convictims that worship him and have their checkbooks and credit cards out ready and waiting to use on whatever grift he comes up with|1 Yeah thats bullshit Why are you trying to push fake news|0 Lmfao good one you almost had me there mr Virus|1 You overly emotional troglodyte try educating yourself hes absolutely rightrcollapseAlso reported|1 Yes in the town I live in theres a confirmed case|1 It was part of the emergency legislation proposed on Saturday Heres an article about ithttpswwwmetrocouk20200308army3000000volunteerscalledhelpnhsfightcoronavirus12365444I dont know how the extra people will be used or when theyll be needed|0 Yeah the parameters and outputs will be very complex Its just stark the difference on how the west is dealing with it compared to the east South Koreas numbers compared to Italy speaks volumes to me|1 Ill bet a lot of these labs have done it and just not saying anything until officially getting approvalIf Cuomos know these numbers it could explain why he said there will be exponential increases|0 Australia is getting fucked in the ass repeatedly|0 Maybe but tanning UV is UVA a longer wavelength so theres no reason why they should need to However even if they did it would be a terrible idea Leave a houseplant and a goldfish next to a UVC light for a few hours and they will be dead It kills most everything it touches which is why its so effective for this purpose It is NOT something you want to be exposed to whether your eyes are shielded or not|0 If you want your child out of school you need to keep your child out of school The superintendent wont make this choice for you in time Just do it dont wait for permission|1 I work in healthcare and I keep seeing obnoxious posts on social media from sooooo many of my former coworkers mocking people who are concerned about it and I really am finding it hard to hold my tongue being that I have Type 1 Diabetes and am considered higher risk of dyingit isnt JUST old people and even if it were why arent more people concerned with protecting JUST the old people My mind is spinning every day|0 Less total infected does mean less chance to mutate A cell mutates by its DNA being corrupted during its copyphase when the cell detects that the RNA is incorrect they 99 of the time self destruct sometimes this fails At this point you have a cell producing proteins it is not meant to produce The way a virus mutates is very similar Viruses take over cells and send in their own DNA in to the cell core for it to produce now you got a cell producing tons of these During production of viruses the same mutation that happens naturally in our bodies can occur just the same way for viruses that they during copy phase take the RNA and send it to the tRNA which by chance is incorrect and you may this time have a virus produced which has improved characteristics better ways of spread more dangerous and harder to contain etc etcBasically yes the more infected the higher chance of mutation since these mutations in turn happen more often in total|0 Its not worth seeing Save yourself the trouble|0 If youre generalising and saying NO REPUBLICANS have any empathy then youre just as bad and are part of the problemIf anything you have no empathy or are so closed minded that its basically the same as being a xenophobe If you instead said Then how do you explain x race not having any empathy youd be considered a racist Calm down realise how incredibly stupid what you just said is and stop trying to incite arguments when its the last thing we need right now|0 OK Thanos|1 If this is the case do you think the UK strategy is a good one|1 Maestro Bocelli is cancelling his tours until its over|0 And their rent Mortgages Let the old and weak die Let the strong and the economy continue|0 I think article says Parkinsonian Syndrome which can be caused by many things including Parkinsons Disease but is different Lets get pedantic Seriously though so sad hope he is doing well he is supposed to tour in May|1 Not when you have acute respiratory problems it aint|0 He was out shaking hands right after the meeting after being told not to|0 North Korea is capable of drastic quarantine measures Even if it gets a foothold they will be able to contain it as they would have no issues if some collateral damage happens|0 What Of course patients can They can give advanced directives where they can decide not to be resuscitated if they code or they can choose to assign a surrogate to make their decisions for them Medicine is entirely revolves around patient autonomy the only time where they cant participate in a decision like this is if theyre incapable of doing so|1 The olympics in Tokyo despite being something I was super excited for and really wanted to see happen is no longer a safe and viable optionIts pretty much a guaranteed event that will cause a huge outbreak some rich asshole from China who can pay to get past the quarantine is gonna end up going and even if he isnt symptomatic he can still transmit that shit|1 Thank you for converting to American measurements Freedom units|1 The owners are but theyve got alot more people on the salary to help But trust they are doing their fair share|1 Ah I see I know the process to get FDA approval takes forever They have extremely stringent requirements I have quite a few friends who work in the pharmaceutical field Everyone says FDA controls pretty tightly|1 Theyll be the daft ones if they get ill from not being careful with the virus|0 My family and my inlaws are conservative and they are not taking it seriously at all Trump has not emphasized how serious this situation is going to get so they continue to vacation in Florida in denial|1 Boycott the automotive industry and stop buying cars every 50k miles I work for teir 2 supplier and they are not going to do anything Just unpaid company time|0 Why are hospitality businesses still open This makes no sense Hotels and restaurants are breeding grounds for germs anyways let alone none is traveling to stay in hotels or go out to eat|0 Ive been looking for this paper since I had table 1 but not the paper itself Thanks for posting|1 Testing lol|1 I will go out and get what I need or can get But the less you have to go out the less chances you have of catching it Plus I prepped for 2 months for 4 persons|1 Serious question no wit or trying to prove you wrong what did he do Ive heard opinions that the worst thing he did were his tweets almost making WW3 coming up but I didnt hear honest criticism of how he fucked up the economy|0 You can have an TLR mediated innate immune response that cures a viral infection without an an adaptive antibody mediated immunity|1 If you live near a source of fresh water just buy a filter and keep some bucketsjugs handy|1 Gove has teflon sim skin no human virus can penetrate it|0 The US does not have a Coronavirus problem we have so few cases sIf you dont test you cant tell how many cases there are|1 I dont watch any TV News for important info let alone a clown show like FOX Ive been pleading for people to do as you suggest for decades|1 Drain the Faux news swamp All of this scientist denying is abhorrent and I see a lot of it come from this network I hope COVID19 can knock some sense into the US public to start paying attention to the people who devote their lives to researching their various fields|0 Not to be that guy but how can anybody tell that a cytokine storm killed somebody who caught the spanish flu Not a whole lot left to test|0 we dont know yet SARS did permanent damage to your lungs many sources saying this one can leave chronicle issues as well|0 Its meaningless|0 The home part seems to have confused them|0 Its pretty laughable that youre acquiring supplies and making plans to protect yourself and your family in the event of a disaster bro Im cant stop cackling High comedy Whats next acquiring basic first aid and minor medical skills Improving your physical fitness LOL u r so stupid|1 So the virus has failed the game alreadyhope it gets bored playing now|0 Doubt|0 For coronavirus bingo next week trumppence says UPSFedEx misplaced our testing kitsIts a national emergency not a reelection campaign Both republicans and democrats need to just put politics aside and do their damn jobs|0 Natural selection at work|1 Sounds like a good time to have a bag of rice in the pantry|1 Reddit has a 2 hour delay to fetch comments or you can use our 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America is mainly a consumer of them as we are an consumer based economy And no American is going to want to work harder train themselves and get paid less Americans only want their entitlements and benefits No sacrifice They want the 6 figure desk job where they can chit chat by the water cooler about binge watching entire seasons on Netflix Not work and live in a factory line|1 Right except those kids need to go somewhere which means you rip a huge portion of the workforce away suddenly These people work in hospitals make medical supplies grow or sell foodDrastic action like this will have consequences And by consequences I mean people will die Closing public transport will put more cars on the roads People will be unable to work and lose their homes Shutting schools isnt a magic bullet that will cure COVID19 It may be a prudent action at some point but the amount of armchair epidemiologists on Reddit spouting this is obvious bullshit is unbelievable|0 omg its so true though I literally hate watching the news but here I am F5ing world news sources like its my drug|1 I know someone whos family member is a nurse and theres definitely an unconfirmed case in her hospital so hopefully it doesnt spread to upstate but I can see where youre coming from|1 I have no idea But the virus will circulate and cause problems for a year or two|0 Snarking about Amazons taxes then suggesting using their unprecedented incredible distribution network to send relief supplies in the same post but somehow no connection between the conceptsLol what So if you innovate you shouldnt pay taxes on your 2 billion in profit What the hell kind of argument is this|0 A large piece of good action in the US|1 Your problem is GIGO Formal diagnosis and actual infection numbers are in a giant disparity|0 Precisely I respectfully described such a scenario earlier and a few people were for whatever reason very defensive at such a suggestion even though all the facts indicate that chain of transmission you described to be a very strong possibility|1 I agree If they didnt travel for the lunar new year chances are they know someone who did|1 Tim Hortons Wan has some of the best food in HK I miss it a lot Glad to hear that their service is still amazing as well|1 This Japanese paper based on 565 Japanese evacuees from Wuhan pegs asymptomatic at 416This is a bit misleading They only found 5 asymptotic carriers in that group of 500 people only 12 people tested positive total You cant conclude much from that especially without knowing what age group the carriers were in|1 its unclear whether people were reinfected or there was a resurgence of the original infection From what Ive read today its inconclusive|1 Thanks|1 60 days isnt sustainable in this day and age Ludicrous|0 Thailand doctors reported that their drug cocktail seems to cure the disease Hopefully they can begin administering that as soon as cases pop up|1 I mean Amsterdam will enable checks too once they stop being high|0 He probably doesnt but people also dont have a source that this is a cover up The tinfoil hat assery is so strong|1 Yes thats terrible too and it angers me even moreBut it goes against US principles at its core Chinas whole system is corrupt and they even admit to sending soldiers to Uyghur houses where they kidnapped the man already and have them sleep in the same bed as women They have the gall to say nothing happens even though Uyghur women are turning up pregnant because of thatThats just one example but the overall issue is that Chinas political principles are corrupt As messed up as the US is due to money interfering in politics they still would never try to implement or defend the soldier in bed idea China is essentially a mafia dictatorship|0 Im very left wing and can totally see the logic in the approach That said we just dont know if it will work or will be a disaster but that goes for either approaches hard lock down or soft lock down|0 In the US theyre telling people not to wear masks It must be a cultural thing Im happy with my modern police antiriot military issue gas mask with its NATO canister and biowarfare escape grade papr|1 I bought my P95 half face mask three weeks ago It looks like a serious mask Ill start wearing it tomorrow as well as my lab googles and gloves and go to the grocery store|1 so true this is the first real lol ive been able to manage for a couple of days|1 Exactly I know it was supposed to be easy for the masses to understand but it was so simplified as to be wrong|0 Lived in Shanghai for 4 years My dealings we primarily with central gov pols you could not be anymore correct This is fucking huge not to mention the abject loss of face on the world stage|1 But of course you still touch objects that countless others have touched such as door handles shopping carts money storereceipts storeproducts etcIn this cases the best protection is simply dont touch your face while out in public until youve had a chance to wash your hands But even thenfor example you will have to touch your keys or other personal items while out door or car key or even parts of your clothing so then if you arrive home wash your hands but then touch your personal items again such as keys then well its tough to avoid doing And chances are youre going to inadvertently touch your face at some point while out Further while you may not have brought much of the virus back into the home someone else in your home might have Likewise when youre visiting others simply touching a glass or fork or remote control or keyboard etc In the end I think most of us are simply just bound to catch this But still nevertheless minimizing how often you touch your facial area until youve washed your hands will go a long way|1 Saw a post about hand sanitizer being an anti bacterial and corona virus is well a virus Is it true that had sanitizer would have little affect on corona virus|1 Guilty at picking my username But dunno where that flair came from I think a mod heh|0 Im losing weight just from anxiety |0 After the news I just heard Yes youre right FUCK|0 I thought it was had and he is discharged now No|0 It really amazes me that some people get off wasting peoples time But sure Ill play along to make your sorry day brighter Ones supposed to listen to the word of God not the word of rambling strangers on internet forums Point me to the part where a prophet foretold that our pope is the antichrist instead of the vague bullshit that might as well be generated by a chat bot|1 Definitely however there are plenty of jobs that cant be done from home|1 Its just an ironic coincidence that stood out to me as ironic The other things you mention are not ironic no|0 Borders still open to Americans we are doomed|0 Great username|1 I like to think of it as natural selection|1 No its notCan I check your source|0 This is exactly how CFR works CaseFatality rate Fatalities divided by casesA case fatality rate CFR also case fatality risk or case fatality ratio is the ratio of deaths from a certain disease to the total number of people diagnosed with this disease for a certain period of timehttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiCasefatalityrate|0 Agreed Of our government cant provide large scale testing to prevent the spread we need access to all of the news outlets to spread awareness|1 It has appeared in IcelandhttpstwittercomRover829status1234409399290138627By May the Coronavirus is either going to be nothing to worry about or a globespanning terror So I wouldnt worry about it either way Try to go to the Iceland trip it might be yanked away from you but you have to swing at every pitch|1 And herein lies the problem most of these Covid deniers just dont seem to be aware of this The media isnt doing their part this factoid is the number one message that needs to get out If we knew a massive tsunami was inbound within the next few weeks we wouldnt bother lining the coast with sandbags wed be running for high ground If there arent enough beds with oxygen support we all need to do whatever we can to avoid catching this thing Restrict the flow of borders isolate outbreak zones close the schools whatever it takes Would we care about the economy if a 50ft tsunami was headed toward our shores|0 Id say definitely continue the nonstress tests Just take precautions wash hands dont touch your face maybe wear gloves for opening doors etc and then toss them Hang in there|1 34 is not low I am not advising caution|1 They swapped the restriction between rChinaFlu and rCoronavirus |0 Yeah one of my employees is pregnant and one is on dialysis so Im really not taking any chances Thats great that your company is strict on it|1 Spring break is in two weeks at my kids school A good 1015 of people go to Disney with another decent percentage traveling in general I half joked with my husband that it would be at our school soon|1 Sure speculation the smoking gun is lying 280 meters from the Seafood Market not Suspisious at all cant even believe it in my dreams|0 Actually not The WHO stated act aggressive now|0 Awesome Wish big name chain restaurants would follow suitAhem Panera|1 NPR has had some good coverage todayfinally National media is starting to catch up The hubris of America needs a wake up calland I say this as an American|1 Go right ahead Everyone gets approved first|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Orange County stores out of all meats toilet paper soaps and sanitizers frozen vegetables canned foods etc people lining up at 3am to be first in the door Schools are closed churches are closed Event centers are cancelling all events Small business like dance studios are still operational Personally Im terrified I just got back from my honeymoon in Hawaii Weve visited very few people since because of fears we may have caught it going through LAX Tonight Im having tightness in my chest Uncertain if actually sick or just anxiety related|0 I was SOOOOOOO hoping the username checked out|1 They are not testing people just returning from Hong Kong who go to the hospital with high fevers and pneumonia This happened to a friend and now her husband is sickHer primary care doctor sent her to the emergency room thinking she would be tested|1 They put the tube in and out while youre under general anesthesia The only indication I had one in was the sore throat|0 i support community watch no one in no one out protect your shit and your neighbor and they will do the samewelding people into there homes is dangerous but restricted movement and social distancing is absolutely necessary|0 Not really true While ships do pollute a lot by the sheer number of people on board they actually have low pollution per person and per ton carried for cargo ships Also cruise ships usually dont burn the cheap oils because passengers complain about the smell|0 Wasnt planning on seeing Sakura at least but it does now seem like its gonna be a cancelled trip|1 None is Central America yet That is good news|1 Except a n95 mask worn properly absolutely will help Stop spreading bullshit|0 Well its pretty clear that this virus at least Covid19 started in China Thats not to say we should necessarily blame them but their response time was longer then it should have been Nonetheless despite the possibility of this starting anywhere Chinas infamous wet markets are particularly high risk for outbreaks|0 Ive been following it too Its not end of the world or civilization bad It might fuck some things up for a couple years at the max|0 theres probably more than a thousand dead theres lots and lots of reports since December of older people dying of a mysterious pneumonia|0 So we really have no good data to estimate the mortality yet Scary|0 Its not to peak my interestIts spelled pique def stimulate interest or curiosity|1 Oh the famous I agree with freedom of speech unless you say something I dont likeDont you think that lying and downplaying things is exactly what creates mistrust fear and more specifically an uncontrollable panic when the truth explodes|0 Message the mods and tell them I told you so then In another two weeks do it again also be an ass about it too You earned the right |0 Up votes can be seen as a way of figuring out if theres a demand for somethingWhy spend time uploading and doing something without demand|0 Damn I feel your fear Id be scared shitless too Dunno what to say to you intvis situation except good luck im sorry|0 Its crazy how much of a hard on people in the United States have about hating another country Its like they already poses the hate they just were looking for something to attach it to like a virus finding a host|0 wow scary the last 5 days or so saw an exponential increase|1 If this corona virus is anything like past corona virus SARS having pets around is a very bad idea Pets can catch and spread the virus Pretty stupid to be hanging around animals they can carry zoonotic diseases|0 I am so so so glad we dont have Scheer at the helm|1 Its Chinas fault|0 I will be messaging you in 7 days on 20200314 024446 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003142002444620UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this 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and we literally have the same problem with mass prayers The government here hasnt shutdown mosques and mass prayers so people wont go to work but will most definitely gather for mass prayer|1 You can report this to OSHA8003216742 OSHAAlso these methodshttpswwwoshagovcontactushttpswwwoshagovcontactusGuidance for other businesses trying to protect workers from Covid19httpswwwoshagovPublicationsOSHA3990pdfhttpswwwoshagovPublicationsOSHA3990pdfx200Bif my employer isnt properly protecting me how do I continueThe good news is you wont need much PPE or much different than what you are already doing You already made the big helpful change for your staff If you PM me I will try and connect you to an outside physician or epidemiologist to consult with so you can trust the feedback you are getting on the seriousness and how to protect your staff|1 Let be honest that choosing what to do is not unlimited If someone wanted to chose to rape people I dont think it would have wider public support General I would want to be allowed to do what I want within the limits of a society that offers some protection I understand what Im allowed to do may sometimes be reduced for reasonable safety reasons and the amount they are reduced may vary what is going on|1 Italian man doing Italian things I love it|1 Im well aware I bought two more packs of Cold Flu from Costco the other day|0 I believe its some gel like substance As the Chinese doctors discovered|1 Thank you|1 There seems to be a dose response although its just a theory at this point Individuals whose point of exposure is someone with fullblown virus have potential for a more severe response themselves When HCPs do get exposed its often to very sick individuals|0 Sending mine but this will probably be the last week I do Avoiding swimming lessons and clubs from now though|0 This is what he is forced to do to be able to grab peoples attention If he was speaking normally nobody would take it seriously|0 Being a great and highly competent neurosurgeon does not make someone competent in anything else Ben Carson proves it Have you listened to the guy talk He thinks the pyramids were grain silos He thinks being gay is a choice He compared Obamacare to slavery And so on|1 With the deepening of understanding of new coronavirus pneumonia and the accumulation of experience in diagnosis and treatment in view of the characteristics of the epidemic in Hubei Province the General Office of the National Health and Health Commission and the Office of the State Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine issued the Diagnosis and Treatment Plan for New Coronavirus Infected Pneumonia Trial Version adds clinical diagnosis to the case diagnosis classification in Hubei Province so that patients can receive standardized treatment according to confirmed cases as early as possible to further improve the success rate of treatment According to the plan Hubei Province has recently conducted investigations on suspected cases and revised the diagnosis results and newly diagnosed patients were diagnosed according to the new diagnosis classification In order to be consistent with the classification of case diagnosis issued by other provinces across the country starting today Hubei Province will include the number of clinically diagnosed cases into the number of confirmed cases for publicationFrom 0200 to 2400 on February 12 2020 Hubei Province newly added 14840 new cases of pneumonia including 13332 clinically diagnosed cases of which 13436 cases in Wuhan 37 cases in Huangshi 26 cases in Shiyan and 13 in Xiangyang Cases 26 in Yichang 321 in Jingzhou 231 in Jingmen 204 in Ezhou 123 in Xiaogan 264 in Huanggang 9 in Xianning 31 in Suizhou 26 in Enshi 20 in Xiantao There were 69 cases in Tianmen City and 4 cases in Qianjiang City There were 242 new deaths including 135 clinically diagnosed cases in the province including 216 in Wuhan 3 in Huangshi 1 in Xiangyang 3 in Yichang 2 in Jingzhou 2 in Ezhou and Xiaogan There were 4 cases in Huangshi City 4 cases in Huanggang City 1 case in Xianning City 2 cases in Suizhou City 1 case in Enshi Prefecture and 3 cases in Xiantao City 802 new hospital discharges including 423 clinically diagnosed cases including 538 in Wuhan 17 in Huangshi 11 in Shiyan 6 in Xiangyang 10 in Yichang 22 in Jingzhou and 11 in Jingmen 23 in Ezhou 28 in Xiaogan 89 in Huanggang 19 in Xianning 11 in Suizhou 10 in Enshi 5 in Xiantao 1 in Tianmen and 1 in Shennongjia Forest DistrictAs of 2400 on February 12 2020 Hubei Province has reported a total of 48206 cases of new coronary pneumonia including 13332 clinically diagnosed cases of which 32994 cases in Wuhan including 12364 clinically diagnosed cases and 911 cases in Huangshi including clinical 12 cases were diagnosed 562 cases in Shiyan City including 3 clinically diagnosed cases 1101 cases in Xiangyang City 810 cases in Yichang City 1431 cases in Jingzhou City including 287 clinical diagnosis cases and 927 cases in Jingmen City including clinical diagnosis 202 cases 1065 cases in Ezhou City including 155 clinically diagnosed cases 2874 cases in Xiaogan City including 35 clinically diagnosed cases 2662 cases in Huanggang City including 221 clinically diagnosed cases and 534 cases in Xianning City including 6 clinically diagnosed cases 1160 in Suizhou 229 in Enshi including 19 clinically diagnosed cases 480 in Xiantao City including 2 clinically diagnosed cases and 362 in Tianmen City including 26 clinically diagnosed cases There were 94 cases in Qianjiang City and 10 cases in Shennongjia Forest DistrictA total of 3441 patients were discharged from the hospital The province has a cumulative total of 1310 cases including 1036 cases in Wuhan including 134 cases of clinically diagnosed cases 9 cases in Huangshi City 1 case in Shiyan City 13 cases in Xiangyang City 11 cases in Yichang City and 23 cases in Jingzhou City There were 24 cases in Jingmen City 30 cases in Ezhou City 49 cases in Xiaogan City 58 cases in Huanggang City 7 cases in Xianning City 14 cases in Suizhou City 4 cases in Enshi Prefecture including 1 case of clinically diagnosed deaths and 16 cases in Xiantao City There were 10 cases in Tianmen City and 5 cases in Qianjiang CityAt present 33693 patients are still being treated in the hospital of which 5647 are critically ill and 1437 are critically ill They are all receiving isolation treatment at designated medical institutions There were 9028 suspected cases 3317 were excluded that day and 6126 were concentrated and isolated A total of 158377 close contacts were tracked and 77308 people were still under medical observation|0 The death rate is low as long as clusters dont develop but once they do the death rate increases dramatically As long as it doesnt spread youre right all is well But this is unlikely unfortunately|0 Yay idiots will hopefully take it seriously now|1 When my husband was in chemo I didnt give a shit what ppl thought I wore gloves picked times where it was early morning and off shopping times to stay away from people If he was still alive I would wrap myself in plastic milk bags and not give a rats ass what people thought|1 Where can I even buy a reasonably priced one All of the ones on amazon are like 150 dollars|1 Exactly Everyone just wants this to ease their minds instead of staying home for awhile Were all fucked because everyone wants to act like a vaccine is just gonna negate the virus Stay home people its only a little while|0 Agreed |1 Like you and a lot of people who take interest in global news i followed this when it started in China It frustrates me that China probably had thousands of infected people before they knew what was happening and the rest of the world should have been ready and implemented stricter regulations regarding quarantine etc It seems the economy is more important than human lifeJust seen they are thinking about banning over 70 year olds from going to football matches How about cancel the games instead Madness|0 Bernie nor the Democrats are going to save you|1 Even mental illness can affect your immune system Obesity is almost certainly a risk factor too|0 Did you bother to look it up or are you just gonna keep saying ur a conspiracy theorist|0 Bernie said this was racist just 3 days ago Which one is it|0 Imagine infected people in 3rd world countries with poor inspection and healthcare|0 Exactly Its better to have it possibly not need it then to need it and not have it|1 Well all get it we cant prevent it We all have a 2 chance of death nowWell you have about a 12 chance of dying in any given year ignoring important things like age curves so it isnt that bad at 2 Make your saving throw|1 I always wonder if the people who say this dont have older relatives friends with immune diseases loved ones with asthma organ transplants cancer these are people ffs Theyre as alive and valid and vibrant as everyone else|1 ok good to know so then just 1 positive case from community spread but if the other comment is correct and its from working at LAX theres prob more undiagnosed|1 Well done Your posts have always been balanced so I am very happy you are modding this subreddit|1 Finally my sleep apnea is doing something useful for me|1 Make America Safe Again|1 Can someone please ELI5 English isnt my first language and I dont fully understand this answer|1 Im a dad of a compromised person I wear an N99 Vogg mask every day All of a sudden Im the most popular guy in the store everyone wants to know where I got it You can only do what you can do This is the sort of thing that my child has almost died from in the past Ive had to say goodbye twice and miraculously he has come through In the end you are responsible for what you are capable of changing but you are not omnipotent or all powerful Be wise Spend your time well and leave the rest up|1 Yeah but did you wash these wild animals in the Ganges River before eating them|1 Fwiw there is a vicious flu strain that is only somewhat moderated by the vaccine going around in the Chicagoland area its sent a quarter of the staff at one UoC clinic home in one day Im worrying about cumulative effects at this point|0 It probably could have been handled better but its not a surprise if you follow the news at all|0 Trump is handling this extremely poorly and the federal government seems to be flailingdoing a bad jobIm not disagreeing with thatIm just trying to point out reasons to have hope and not think were entirely screwedTest kits should be on their way as we speak I think the administration said theyd have either 1 or 2 million ready to go by this week Its too late to do anything proactive with that information but well have it Also different states are handling this differently and have issued clear statements about the danger and are starting to implement quarantines and shut down events Way more people are aware of this that were aware of the situation at the same stage in China and are taking precautions into their own handsWould you prefer if I just complained about how screwed we arePart of responding appropriately to emergency situations like this is identify things that are going right so as to accurately asses the risk and get people to stay positive enough to take necessary action against the negatives If you tell people everyone is doomed and theres nothing you can do about it theyre unlikely to do much to curb what seems like inevitable disasterIm not denying the negatives and I think its perfectly justifiable to be angry at anyone saying its just the flu at this stage in the game and all the screw ups I just dont think theres any good in saying were done forthis is definitely going to be worse than China particularly when were not in the end gamethere are still things we can do and reasons to be more optimistic even if that bad outcome may in fact end up happening|0 This could not be more true Everyone here looks at me like Im mental every time I bring up the virusExample My neighbour Actual Response Why would I bother with this social distancing crap if Im gunna get it Im gunna get it and get over it just like every other flu This is just stupid and people got themselves all worked up over nothing If I want to go the pub Im gunna dam well do it and no politician is going to tell me otherwise its a free country 60 yr old diabetic neighbour who bought 5 bags of tp today Genius|0 Oh shit Sorry I didnt get back to you on this I see Gummyia did in my place and put it much better and more detailed than probably would have lol|1 Yeah theyve been gone for weeks even down in the South suburbs like AlvinWebster|1 I hope so Source|1 Chance is you will never find out whether that was it unless you do an antibody test I have no faith in the local government let alone the cdc ever getting to this although private foundations or commercial entities might|1 Great idea I love the way you think|1 Thats kind of whats gradually been happening but it doesnt seem to be having that much of an impact That 16000 includes parents and there are 30000 students in the entire district In my school only about a third of my grade is gone I like the idea of a strike but I dont think it would be quick enough and effective enough to mitigate spread Hopefully public pressure like the exposure of that petition in the media a few hours ago will compel them to do whats right|1 Reasonable but can be misleading Just to clarify this to give you an extreme example 1113242424 While the majority of the people 57 get the symptoms closer to 3 days we dont have much information about the 50 before and after|0 Im more worried about the us people without health care coverage arent going to go to the doctor|0 Its terrible and our governments response to this pandemic has made it clear they dont care about us in any way besides our contributions to their stock portfolios|0 Oh damn thats crazy enough already without the disinfectantIf it is working it isnt crazy Could be workingSalt on the roads in some European countries Poland where I live for sure during colder winters not this year to fight with ice on roads too is insane because of corrosion of carsBut it is working anyway|0 Well it depends Managing fever is and reducing pain also important Especially for people with mild symptoms who stay at home Maybe better to take an NSAID than have to visit hospital Ill wait for more case reports from doctors on the ground before worrying too much about it It also seems that maybe its an ibuprofen specific mechanism not all NSAIDs So plenty of other tools in the toolbox in that case|0 Nobody is taking me seriously either They think Im morbid and negative trying to explain the truth that this isnt just a simple flu that a couple people catch and may succumb to Im tired of the virus period and sick of fearing it and have come to the conclusion to just life your life like today is your last because with this virus who knows whats gonna happen|0 Older people are always the first to go not entitely sure why people are focusing on that Should be looking at how many healthy younger people die compared to other diseases|0 x200B15th of Jan was 30 30 15 days from Oct 30 The date that the virus came alive in humans if the DNA decoding of the virus is correctx200B75 days more or lessx200BNow we could calculate the spreadx200BIf the incubation time is 3 days then one person would get 3 new infectedx200BInfected people day 3 incubation time 3 for cubic growth in 3D space x200BI get 75 3 3 15625 infected by day 75The news number is also saying 15 K confirmed casesIf we say x200BDay 3 3 new infectedDay 6 9 New infected from the last 36 3x 99 3x 2712 3x 81Wolfram alfa gives me 31699 cubic growth for Xhttpswwwwolframalphacominputi28122F3295Ex3D81walheaderhttpswwwwolframalphacominputi28122F3295Ex3D81walheaderx200B75 331699 I get 26997 infected in 75 days if the incubation period is 3 days and 3 new people get infected from every previous infected personx200BSo the news number is 15k and the math number is 27Kx200BThe numbers might be ridicules but then again I am not a viral scientist nor mathematician x200B365 days 331699 4071791 people infected in a year365 3 331699 132498862 people infected in 3 years365 10 331699 6021233728 people infected in 10 yearsx200BThe Wuhan virus would need 10 years to infect the whole world populationx200BIn the news math is OK but its 100 wrong since its all based on click bait news and fun speculation|0 There have been some reports but its too early to tell Although it is very plausible due to a phenomenon with the immune system call Cytokine storms which can be deadly|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Which is exactly what the US government encourages companies to do They offer tax breaks on debt making it cheaper than equity|1 I hate it when ppl bring that up So what if the account is new Youd be stupid to keep a reddit account for longer than a few months Nobody wants to get doxxeddata mined|0 Fuck me eh|0 Ontario Canada which shares a border with NY State has closed all of their publicly funded schools for the next 3 weeks Our entire country covering the approx side of Narnia as of minutes ago has 200 cases Population 375 million Why is NY not taking this seriously|1 My personal issue is itll rely so much on who is in power Could you imagine if we had single payer with trump as president and he was trying to defund it left and right that would be disastrous|0 I tried calling because my husbands co worker was just diagnosed with it but both lines are down Ended up using Maple and doc just told me to self isolate and contact local health unit if we get any symptoms|0 Is real life truly this imperfectEr yes|1 Been saying this for weeks Either South America Mexico Africa Middle East ie the entire third world all have quarantine procedures that put the firstsecond world to shame or this thing has been spreading exclusively under the radar and completely undocumented for the entire last month or two and is set to explode in the coming weeksmonths Will be absolute armageddon on a scale worse than China|0 I dont understand why 99 of the population would even need to see these papers thoughThey dont but it isnt for them Every university and firm researching the virus already had access through research databases noYou would think so but sadly no|0 This is terrible My heart goes out to that woman|0 Be careful showering people with gold got R Kelly in a ton of trouble|0 Also some of my friends were declined tests even though they got sick after interacting with people who later tested positive for covid19|1 There is one suspect in Brazil student that was in Wuhan along with 127 cases that are being verifiedhttpsnoticiasuolcombrsaudeultimasnoticiasredacao20200128brasiltemumcasosuspeitodecoronavirusemmgdizministrodasaudehtm|0 Wow we live in a good country not like the other shitty ones|1 Hmm making a claim about a new pandemic that only jumped to humans in early November and has now spread around the world There are more severe and critical cases per case with Covid You will be eating your hat in a few months|0 Im flying into LAX on Friday next week Just flying in from NorCal I honestly dont know whether to wear a N95 mask the whole time and gloves or just go bareback lol Im young so Im aware I wouldnt get that sick but Id HATE to become a vector and get others sick including family and friends That old curse may you live in interesting timeshttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiMayyouliveininterestingtimes couldnt be more on point|1 Make sure to wear gloves and a mask at the appointment Like you said you cant risk catching anything else Good for you for being extra cautious and not just blowing this off as the flu like most others so I must applaud you on that Keep hydrated and stay safe|1 That got depressing fast|0 That 01 is literally ONE patient age 1018 out of 1023 deaths and we know nothing about their preexisting conditionsI read the same paper OP this is fearmongering bullshit and should be taken down Reported for sensationalism|0 Thats crazy I almost have the same symptoms except a burning almost in my chest very mild but I can feel something isnt right|0 A small amount of fear would be useful here I would tell her that there is a sickness around and that even though she is not at a big risk of getting sick herself its still very important for her to share responsibility for not bringing the sickness into the house because others could get ill from it Giving her a purpose like help keep Grandma safe from the virus will be easier to understand than just dont go near anyone|1 The OP made it clear that he was either the unluckiest man on earth OR the Chinese authorities were severely lowballing the numbers back then I dont really understand what youre arguing against All youre saying is someone has to be the unluckiest person which doesnt negate what OP is saying|0 There are individuals in this world that have a negative predisposition to lifePity them but dont waste your time|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil responseIf you believe we made a mistake contact ushttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetorChinaFlu or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I think its a mixture or normality bias ignorance and denialI know a lot of otherwise intelligent people who really dont seem bothered by it all or if they are they are very good at hiding itI cant blame everyone for being in denial they are probably just as scared as everyone else but just dont know how to handle to situationThe problem is those who are actively ignoring the advice regarding hand washing etc and those who are sharing the social media posts downplaying the whole situation Some people are so stubborn they will probably still try and downplay it all even after people they know are killed by it|0 One thing i know for sure is i dont want to receive a rushed development vaccine|1 i cant stop thinking in all tsho videos in China South Corea and iran with people falling hoep is not the case But this should be already everywhere|1 Incompetent|0 Yes I think the number should be x of y confirmed Instead of x Nobody wants to report the sample set|1 David Fisman is a leading epidemiologist at UofT lol You seem to think cases can fall quickly due to measures implemented in the past few days The virus can be incubated for 14 days or more It takes 12 weeks of illness to progress to needing hospitalization Get educated and then lets talk|1 Oh hes actually an Indian with a serious hardon for XiChina at least hes been shitposting as an Indian for years now|0 Absolutely true but only leaving when necessary is still better than acting like nothing is wrong going to the pub with your mates and sampling each others drinks|1 Great question|1 People working to combat coronavirus will be taking every precaution There are three groups of people we need to really watch how we interact with them and they are the elderly people with preexisting medical conditions and children The elderly and less healthy for obvious reasons and children because of their high rate of transmission So young people with no medical conditions are perfect for doing things like grocery runs and dare I say it babysitting These people stand the best chance of survival and we will need them to do things for us that we maybe shouldnt be doing ourselves If you can send out one person to do shopping for two families then we are going to halve the number of people going out in public Of course people are going to have to be strict about their protective measures but I think this is far better than each household going out and risking infection or transmission|1 Also losing hours is the first step to losing your actual job|0 Youre an idiot|0 At this point and from the way theyve handled this not sure how itll help|1 Even more than that Ive seen as much as a 45 hour lead on some stories the Brazilian Pres being positive comes to mind Its not minor stories Its kinda crazy cuz you thinkwell thats not really a reputable source that one broke to reddit via some Mexican newspaper that I and Im willing to bet most people had never heard of but then several hours later its in big MSM like CNN and BBC and you now know its true The whole thing is kind of a mind fuck Somebody probably several people will wind up doing doctoral dissertations on crowd sourcing information and realfake stories and the timelines associated with it all in a few years|1 That is literally the definition of every human alive today on planet earth minus just a few areas that the modern world does not touch|1 The one in the front is doing the much betta pose and is dressed like Baga Chipz from that episode of drag race so I think its safe to say theyre drag queens lol|1 This is dumb its not xenophobic at all The overwhelming majority of cases in Canada right now have travel history You do 24hr notice that Canada is now closed to the flow of people on commercial flightsships and land borders Canadian citizens exempt for the landsea part but have to quarantineWithin 2 weeks with social distancing measures and good testingcontract tracing you will have relatively stable levels of infection unless theres a super spreader When 100 countries have cases closing the borders cant even be tied to a nationrace to make the race card work Its just common sense|1 Right This is the same country that refused to tell the rest of the world what happened in the first place and tried covering it up and were supposed to believe them Nah|0 Im not sure I read that you need a million to open a single McDonalds and I was like why the hell even do that Put that money in an ETF and be happy instead|0 Ive explained this to you several times now If you dont want to accept the clear data I told you then please answer this simple questionWhere is the GEO5 forecast simulation getting its data fromMagic|1 muh free speech|1 Ive made it a personal mission not to google any acronyms It took months to figure out tldr but holy crap was it rewarding when it finally dawned on me|1 Short little cocksucker|0 Yep 100 was only PHE doing it before I believe|1 At the minimum we should have presumed those kind of warnings accurate until proven otherwise|0 Youre welcome |1 at this point testing is pointless there have to be thousands of cases probably tens of thousnads in the area and nothing will stop the spread except a severe lockdownshutdown i get that the dems should focus on the failure of testing by the administration as it is obviously political cyanide for Trump but at this point flattening the curve and expanding hospital capacity is the only remaining option|0 Watch he backs out|0 Within the particular program for emergency preparedness Capabilities 11 13 described in this document specifically describe functions of 11Managing Medical surges to provide resources for disease surveillance and laboratory diagnostic resources and 12 Public Health Laboratory Testing These services encompass having reliable diagnostic testing kits available at appropriate volume and having resources to distribute them promptly to areas of need httpswwwcdcgovcprreadinesscapabilitieshtm|0 Attack on Pangolins|0 Health literacy is shockingly low|0 what a whitewashhow did the article not even mention the failed 100000 cases why even bother try to inform the reader|0 Wait til they just let them disembark at SF then lose track of where they all go|0 traveling there tommorrow with my ignorant parents yay|1 Peppa loves jumping up and down in muddy puddlesEveryone loves jumping up and down in muddy puddles|1 Hes probably talking to a colleagueMale I want to go home too I want to go home to celebrate Chinese New year What did you guys do What did you guys do inaudible Been working 4 shifts a day inaudible We dont want to live anymore See for yourself What on earth are you guys doingFemale There thereMale I dont want Take them all away Even if theyre lying on the floor drag them outinaudible I dont want to work anymore Fire meFemale inaudibleMale I am not making a scenethrowing a tantrum There are so many of them here what do you want me to doFemale Theyre asking the hospital director to come take a lookMale inaudibleFemale Ask the patient to find the hospital directorVideographer probably seeking for treatment Ive tried to find him I dont know who is the hospital director Ive called the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th line|1 I mean we may hate the things about Trump voters that led them to vote for him but as people No we dont hate them as people|0 Thank you I pulled my location right up Im 129 miles a way from a confirmed case|1 Just smile and wave boys smile and wave|1 We didnt analyse the fact that Swine Flu spread from pigs to humans and stopped the mass farming of pigs as a result Pig farming is normal so we keep doing it This could have started anywhere|0 CDC Pandemic Response Team Fired in 2018httpswwwsnopescomfactchecktrumpfirepandemicteam|0 India is the second most populous country after China Has highest population density In last two days cases have gone from 3 to 28 Expecting localized outbreaks around Delhi Jaipur etc Is there any analysis of total number of beds available in India state or city wise per 100k population As accessibility to healthcare has made major difference in the mortality rates|1 Well actually it can I understand your reasoning but youre still wrong|0 Heres the shortened version of ithttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfil7igimsorryiffeelingsarehurtbutpeopleneedfki3y9iutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare didnt want to add the specific numbers and cities in case it broke a rule|0 So the SansCulottes have come to the countryside again demanding bread|0 A company here in Quebec is starting human trials in JulyAug 2020 for Covid 19 Medicago announces production of a viable vaccine candidate for COVID19 The biopharma successfully produced VirusLike Particles VLP of the coronavirus in just 20 days using proprietary plantbased technology Medicagos platform can produce both vaccine and antibody candidates against COVID19 disease QUEBEC CITY March 12 2020 Medicago a biopharmaceutical company headquartered in Quebec City announced today that they have successfully produced a VirusLike Particle VLP of the coronavirus just 20 days after obtaining the SARSCoV2 virus causing the COVID19 disease gene Production of the VLP is the first step in developing a vaccine for COVID19 which will now undergo preclinical testing for safety and efficacy Once this is completed Medicago expects to discuss with the appropriate Health Agencies to initiate human trials of the vaccine by summer JulyAugust2020x200Bhttpsmediamedicagocomwebfolderdownloadcdd5b616fa32c817ec7d1023f4c75231medicagocovid19pressreleasefinalen3c26d750813c907f2af077cdc20f7a7049a7155bmedicagocovid19pressreleasefinalenpdfhttpsmediamedicagocomwebfolderdownloadcdd5b616fa32c817ec7d1023f4c75231medicagocovid19pressreleasefinalen3c26d750813c907f2af077cdc20f7a7049a7155bmedicagocovid19pressreleasefinalenpdfEdit title|1 US definitely not ready for nonpharmaceutical intervention Home of the cant tell me what to do Land of the pills can fix it And trust of governmentmedia is at all time low Sure Chinese dont trust gov but they follow orders Stock up on O2 tanks|1 Please dont take this as an attack on you I actually understand your fear Its just that Im getting tired of people making statements without any studies or proof to back up their opinions which are nothing but reactions to fear I found a WHO article about the topic It beginsYes thats how the article begins In fact thats the first paragraph of the introduction Did you read past that You seem to have come to the opposite conclusion that the study did Keep reading the study and youll find that in multiple places they state theyre either not effective or the data doesnt support the conclusion youre making Thats the best science available right nowheres a quote from the same article you mentioned International travel restrictions general observationsHave limited effectiveness eg 90 air travel restriction in all affected countries may delay spread of pandemics by 34 weeksHave minimal impact on the magnitude of pandemics typically reducing attack rates by less than 002May prolong the seasonal influenza seasonMay result in higher epidemic peak if resultant delay causes pandemic wave to coincide with seasonal influenza waveSimulated impact particularly weak in scenarios that involve strains with high transmissibilityExtensive restriction of international air travel might delay introduction of a pandemic into a country by up to 2 months and delay pandemic spread by 34 monthsWould not prevent introduction of a pandemic into any given countryMay give time for other interventions eg the production and distribution of effective vaccines and antiviral drugsSocial and economic impacts need to be evaluated Omans civil aviation authoritySo Other countries can do what they want and ignore WHO protocols and best practices It doesnt make them right in any way Canada seems to be completely insaneId say Canada is seeming to be the complete opposite of insane Were making decisions based on the best available science and studies|0 Im aware of that the post above me agreed with MSNBCs math before his edit and made some sort of rambling comment about us being cunts because we allowed it to happen|0 Policies and education are effective to reduce mask consumption In Hong Kong public acitivites were cancelled schools were stopped and online lessons were given people now work from home instead kf going to the office and most importantly people are advocated not to go out if unecessary By reducing social contact plus using masks when really you have to go to the public it could reduce chances of infection while maintaining a lower mask demand|1 Again not addressing the point I made at all Im not saying anyone shouldnt do it nor do I care Im just saying that if you need it you have a problem as is the case with any addiction|0 Thanks for speaking out bro Im with you I truly think its a topic that doesnt get enough attention Right now theres a country in the world where millions of ethnic minorities were targeted and thrown into concentration camps then subjected to involuntary laborThat country is America and Im taking about private prisonsI will also be your ally in this fight bro Thats what being a patriot is about|1 from one of the early study about one of the Wuhan hospital 41 of the patients out of 300 cases of that study got infected in the hospital Panic testing isnt a good solution especially during a flu season|0 No at early stage carry lam said government officers should not wear masks another officer keep coughing and refuse to wear mask because the government was still planning to appeal courts decision that antimask law is illegal You can still find these on webhttpsampscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3048883coronaviruscarrielamwarnshongkongofficialsShe only cares about politic not hong kong people|0 I agree I had the viral pneumonia once I was good and all of the sudden I was sweating bricks felt like complete shit and could barley walk This also happened at work and I had to walk a mile homecrawled a bit|1 I work for a Fortune 500 industrial supply company and we have already done this My segment is Resellers and I have people messaging me daily to see if they can get respirators and they dont care about the cost When they werent on restriction I would always say no because I knew they would jack up the price for the hospitals or people who really needed themThis is extremely necessary otherwise you get people who will price gouge the needy You would think that situations like this would bring out the best in peopleEdit Mistype|1 Those under 18 are 24 of reported cases Do you think that children are magically immune to this Its much more likely that they are getting sick and those cases just arent being recognized So the cases among the age group with a next to zero fatality rate arent going into the literal death rate calculation Thats obviously going to skew the reported death rate higher I doubt thats the only reason for the estimate being so much lower than the observed its just one obvious reason httpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactorshttpswwwstatnewscom20200303whoisgettingsickandhowsickabreakdownofcoronavirusriskbydemographicfactors|0 Yes Norwegian Cruise Lines is not a Norwegian company It is American owned and operated based in Miami|1 snake oil merchants will always appear in a crisis He sells knowing that many taking his so called cure will get over the virus|0 Well I mean I know they dont have enough tests But to give a bunch to our celebrities just makes me sick The one thing we are seeing with controlled spread is mass testing|0 Thats what I thought you meant Thanks|1 Nah Id say its from the ridiculously infectious and deadly pulmonary virus that they have Not a doctor though just taking a wild guess|0 All the medical staff here in Seattle have been working 18 hour shifts without taking breaks since the outbreak got bad Everyone is breaking at this point and supplies are are literally disappearing as soon as stores go back in stock Im really fearing whats going to happen in the next week We have a huge homeless problem where we barley have any shelters to house them so if we get to the state Italy is in the we are really going to have to push to find quarantine methods The response to this has been absolute chaos and will continue to be so until the government actually steps up|0 If youre the odd one out then maybe start thinking that youre over reacting|0 Hail Mary Malon|1 We didnt lock them up physically although I agree that we shouldnt have barred them just like Anthony Fauci shouldnt have been barred by TrumpWe sure acted faster than the rest of the world We took action as soon as we realized this was bad but its the CoronaVirus we are talking about Any outbreak sure takes a few weeks to be recognizedAnd yes western countries should definitely learn from us and take actions All of the western countries are inactive during your critical first weeks as well|1 No youre saying that hordes of people are going to panic and overwhelm hospitals That is not happening now and likely wont happen And that by definition is fear mongering|0 Waiting for the sister to jump up and sing its corona timeI hope this is fake|0 I dont like how those ages are divided up In the 2 lowest groups its comparing 5 years to 24 years|0 Well its been 36 hours What have your high up sources to say now|1 Update Well it finally happened We received notification that someone at my work tested as presumptive positive Now management is finally agreeing to let us work from home for that next two weeksI find their slow to respond attitude contemptuous and disgusting It further illustrates how little we are valued I am grateful that we can finally work from home during this pandemic but I shouldnt need to be grateful This isnt a courtesy its a crisisI will remember the mindset of those who placed their egos and their profits above our lives and do whatever I can to discredit and marginalize anyone who sees the life of the worker as expendable November 2nd is not far off Lets vote these type of people off the island|1 Thats completely fair and I 100 agree with you What I left out of my previous comment was folks arent taking precaution specifically for others sakes|1 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfeqtuqevergreenhospitalceasingallcovid19testsfjq30klcontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 It sucks how little details they publish|0 If she gets sick at least shell be in a better place with better medical care depending on your country but you seem less concerned about your country than the US Id take the riskETA And depending on how good her social safety net is there being at home with family might also be very helpful since its likely a case of not if but when on most people getting sick|1 I brought that up just because it indicates that there was a lot more traveling between china and singapore than say japan or america Singapore has a huge amount of connection with China far far more than Taiwan Most of the people in Singapore are either originally from china or the children of people who emigrated from China The Taiwanese Chinese population mostly came to Taiwan hundreds of years ago|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related 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school is still on tomorrow tho The people are our only hope but people I work with still wanting to fly southLol double facepalm |1 If you get lasting lung damage its just gonna be worse when ya catch it again in a year this is looking like a long term thing|0 The Trump administration doing nothing for 2 months whilst they saw what was happening in China to develop credible testing procedures will go down as a historic mistake Slowing the spread by just a month may have saved a half the people who eventually die|0 Doctors dying from work exhaustion That is awful waste of good peopleHe died of a cardiac arrest a heart attack|0 dont blame you|1 Serious question Has their ever been a virus that someone can get over and the person does not develop an immunity for it|0 Yeah you can test positive for awhile after symptoms have subsided They released her without testing to see if she was negative at least twice is what happened Its the same thing going on in China the infected are still shedding after theyve recovered Geez figure it out people|0 You just moved the goalpost a freaking mile Recovered doesnt mean they were given 500 and a puppy either Recovered just means recovered No nCov symptoms no detectable virusNo one said it meant cured There is no cure No one said it gave immunity for life how long immunity lasts will take time to figure out and it will also take time to figure out if the virus mutates enough to bypass any natural immunityBut there also hasnt been a relapse from a recovered person yet People have felt a bit better then taken a turn for the worse thats common But I dont think anyone has been officially diagnosed as recovered and then relapsed Im sure it will happen once or twice once you start talking about thousands of cases mistakes or oddities will occur But so far so good|0 Its already been diversifying away from China though None of my recent clothes bought say Made in China It is actually cheaper to make certain items in other countries now as wages rose in China over the years|1 It wont become active isnt the same as it sitting around being latent wont make a completely novel disease worse|0 And when the delivery drivers are sick|0 Interesting I just added Rosetta to a third computer last night and it worked fine for me but I already have an account so I didnt have to complete that step Let me try and see if I can create an account and I will get back to you|1 No thanks You know how many germs coins can carry|1 The Australian governor has just come out with virus is not transmitted through selfies though when someone told her that Hanks could have transmitted the virus to lots of fans not just the film crewAustralian politicians seem as bad as the British and the American ones|0 Gross he ate poop|0 Paid sick leave funded via the federal government is literally by definition a socialist program Just because the word socialism makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean its not that anymoreEDIT I mean the fucked up definition of socialism that american conservatives have The one where any additional safety nets are somehow socialist|0 Yeah if it was the new York times the headlines would be 6 million Jews dead in the midst of coronavirus outbreak and quarantine in china|0 Not only risking these medical professionals but the lives of people they wont be available to helpJail is deserved and fuck the first judge that goes light on these people If they do t take it seriously then we will see more of the sameI swear to God I think we are just asking for martial law People cant think beyond themselves|0 I hope everyone and their country remember not to trust CCP|1 Thank you|1 httpwwwecigaretteresearchorgresearchindexphpwhatsnew2020278coronaSee section starting with Lets talk about ecigarettes now Probably the best info we have|1 Scuse the awful job I did there of posting a link|0 Sitting on their freshly washed hands Great work everyone same time next week bring the nice biscuits|1 Lol its ok Figured you were being sarcastic|1 Healthcare Its highly likely that all people in authority in healthcare are under a lot of pressure Since one can be asymptomatic and still spread it theres no way to know until symptoms appear Its not only for the benefit of you and other workers but also the elderly and anyone with a health issue You can help anyone if you go down|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Remembers own experience with a school nurseI think my finger is brokenCan you bend itI CAN BEND IT SIDEWAYSIts fine then But if you really want to be such a big baby about it I can call your parentsNarrator It was broken|0 Shit Id be ecstatic with Chinas 2000 per day throughput from back when|0 Even when you are sick you still get hardcore grief for taking them It makes no sense|0 they can just keep making up excuses that they were workinglol thats a manager problem then A competent manager can quantify the output of your work even if its intangible And if someones work is impossible to quantify You dont actually need them|0 Youre right Youre being downvoted by a bunch of consoomers who take no financial or personal responsibility|0 Funny this comes up right after NYTs report about lack of tests Insert copypasta pro CCP propaganda response|0 I am preparing myself for this But I also cried about it when I realized that is what you must do It will be hard to not have my baby with me right away in the room Also I have read I might not be able to have my husband with me either Its just hard to wrap my head around it I also feel like in will do whatever I need to keep my baby and myself healthy|1 thats just horrible just why hold a fockin parade DURING AN OUTBREAK and this was during the spanish flu gg st louis|0 No pictures|0 Too early to determine if this is bullish or not Im slightly bullish because actual numbers arent anything to be worried about in the US and this event will be a lagging indicator we wont see the actual effect until earnings As far as Chinese indexes and Shenzhen this is quite bearish in the near term and medium termx200BThe Chinese economy is slowing down due to this virus along with the Hong Kong protests A mini recession in the making and a potential black swan for them The Chinese are indebted beyond comprehension They lie about their GDP growth their debt is 3x larger than their GDP HORRIBLE Their entire economy is teetering on the brink of economic collapsex200BIf this virus infects even infects a small amount of their population it doesnt need to kill many we are going to see a significant decrease in manufacturing The base on which this house of cards has been built upon is starting to violently shakex200BKyle Bass has a great video with Raoul Pal speaking about China Linkhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv9eDYx6FRFY|0 Some expert predicted that half of the US population would come down with COVID19 I hope thats an exaggeration because even aside from the millions who would die theres the question of what would happen if half of the workforce had to take a month off from work to recover How many people are prepared to pay the rent and buy food for a month without income I think the precious stock market would be the least of their concerns|1 The proper responseNow it could be accurate if some enterprising individual booked a flight to an unimpacted area stocked up on purell and traveled back with supply and needs to sell at increased cost because thats what it cost to bring it to marketThats where it gets messy between gouging and it was difficult and expensive to get more product into the area|1 Really Youd think the way they over price their coats theyd have money in the bank to pay something|0 Well in the US I am not going in unless I think its really serious Fucking copays man|1 high temperature and high relative humidityI dunno about anyone else but a sauna suddenly looks more interesting|1 Remember the virus has an average of 5 days before symptoms show What scientists do is they track the current confirmed data and extrapolate to 5 days previous So what youre seeing is 5 days ago Given the lock down occurring in Italy happening last week I expect the numbers to rise for a couple more days then start peaking and slowing down Italy is nearing their peak Soon we will be celebrating and then the world will have to take measures themselves|1 Poster should add Country before the posts actual title Its so hard to follow news from different places|0 If were getting really picky here couldnt we say that since the epicenter is the point from which something spreads like seismic waves in an earthquake then we actually dont know exactly where the epicenter of the virus is Sure its spreading quickly in NY and WA but it didnt originate in either of those places to our knowledge|1 Talk about being selfish on a sub where the majority is stocking on months of food making it impossible for the other people to do regular grocery shopping|0 They should get tested but the fact that theyre getting prioritized over people are actually symptoms is wrong|0 Time to secede to succeed|1 Bill thank you for taking the time to do this today I live in Seattle like you and it feels like our testing has not increased Our number of confirmed cases are starting to lag behind other states What do you think gives Effective social distancing or lack of testing|1 I think given the size of the country and sheer amount of opportunity cost incurred for individual follow up once it Chinese level numbers start coming in community mitigation is the only option left|1 Aww did he hurt your feelings by insulting your idol Face it what he said is true President Trump will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents weve ever had Hes incompetent corrupt and proven to lie constantly White trash just flocks to him because they like seeing someone as trashy as themself in office|0 This is definitely an interesting situation Will see what my parents say about traveling or not traveling to Asia Anecdotal evidence I have a trip to Taiwan planned for late Aprilmy kids first trip to Asia|1 I started getting a raspy throat last night got worse today so I called out of work restaurant job so I wouldnt spread whatever it is I have Two other employees are also out sick with unknown funk so we will see how it goes|0 I imagine the problem would be perception People who dont go to the doctor because they are worried about cost are not suddenly going to change their habits And who is going to pay for their hospitalisation if they are actually sick And do these people have paid sick leave That would also stop them reporting symptoms Not that this proves there are other cases but it is worth considering that it might limit the number of people who selfreport for checks|0 Part of me feels like I should purposefully get the virus now to secure myself a chance at a hospital bed|1 Please do not spam If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 This is Britain Rain doesnt even stop us from having BBQs|1 Considering Scotlands the only safe place left i wonder how many are gonna travel down aha also apparently that case of the virus in Wales was in Swansea defo gonna end up being in Cardiff n Newport eventually|1 Whats confusing about itThere is an eminent global shortage of supplies so everyone is buying everything they can now and producing whatever they can now It makes sense that stocks would rise|0 CDC is trying to save the market not lives CDC doesnt give a shit about you or anyone else|1 Not only a chance this happens with almost all viruses It will burn out Theres the possibility of becoming seasonal but that buys us a lot more time to prepare for it including vaccines|0 There is actually some benefit to this You wont likely filter any virus you breathe but it helps you keep from touching your mouth it can be worn by the infected and you can make it at home |0 Globalism has only increased the wealth of the rich It has destroyed the middle class in America and rendered many in poverty|1 Yes Those just a flu bro people will when the perishable food runs out panic Weve already seen brawls over toilet paper what about the same for food sounds unlikely|0 the wait time might be shorter i dont really remember maybe it was only like a 1 month wait you just have to send in all your forms with a couple of references to the police they call the people you listed as references and do a background check then if youre approved they send you your licence in the mail|1 100 agree But that underscores my point theyre casting the widest net and finding only a relatively small number of cases|1 People downvoting you for telling the truth thanks reddit|1 My city is still sayingtHeRE iS a LOw rIsKSide note I cant see my posts from this sub on my home page for the last couple hoursHmmmm Anyone else having this issue I posted somewhere else and it shows but not from here hopefully this one doesEdit I can see this one but not these 2 from another thread httpswwwredditcomrCanadaCoronaviruscommentsfjitmodoyoureallythinkcanadawillshutdowntomorrowfknuck3context3Weird|0 Thanks for the info So that would be critical where I live also Concerning Maybe less so that only one is required but while ventilator for a time being cases dont seem bad organ failure and shock ones do|0 I have been following this since Wuhan started building hospitals I kept saying to my family get ready Nope nope nope Then the light bulb had gone off just recently I am very high risk Almost middle aged type 1 diabetic and hypertension So I am freaking out I have made my will I have gotten my affairs in order And it really Sucks I have never experienced anxiety until this I am freaking out I know I need to breath So yes this is surreal for sure|0 I agree with the sentiment here and we do need to stay calm and just be responsible about this In my case I have asthma and had the opportunity to go today so I figured 997 was close enough to qualify The issue I am trying to raise is more about the hidden fees though which all still applies even if I had a higher fever and shortness of breath|1 The OP is totally correct The method of calculating CFR by dividing deaths by cases is only appropriate after all cases are determined cases otherwise you are assuming every single case being added at an exponential rate will not die Ive been arguing this point with several numpties on an Irish News Media website comments section and am being continually being shot down as clueless or arrogant IMO There are two recognised methods of determining the best guess CFR during an emerging epedemic Method 1 CFR deaths deaths recoveries x 100 This will give a reasonable guesstimate Using an Icecream parlour analogy You have a queue of 1000 customers most customers will order a wafer cone some will order a cup You need to place an order for cups soon so would like to know the customer cup ratio After 100 customers have been served you note 20 have ordered cups while 80 cones So the customer cup ratio is 20 The beauty of this method is that it doesnt matter if new customers join the end of the queue even exponentially or how long it takes before a customer is served Its a reasonable logical approach to evaluate what is a dynamic situation Method 2 CFR deaths at dayx cases at dayxT where T is the average time from when a case is newly identified to when death occurs Simply put you are noting that cases need time to reach their outcome before you can evaluate So if you take the number of deaths on a particular day then you have to look at the number of cases T days later Eg If T is 10 days then you take todays deaths and the number of cases from 10 days ago and then do the calculation deathscases 10 days earlierThe issue with method 2 is that you need to know T which may be itself be difficult to evaluate Hence Method 1 would be my personal preferred method But reasonably good estimations of T for nCoV are out thereBTW There is a 3rd method that involves quite complex calculus which could be employed in computer modelingNote using yesterdays figures I got CFR 22 for Method 1 and 18 for method 2 Or splitting the difference a CFR of 20The CFR of 21 is a disinformation pill that originated from the National Health Commission of China press conference and has been regurgitated by the press ever since21 was calculated using deathscases This as the OP points out should only be used after all cases are resolved and is otherwise faulty It could of course have been an honest mistake a language misunderstanding stupidity or just an effort at diverting panic Whatever the case the statement was invalid 2019nCoV will kill about 20 of all those infected based on the best currently known figures Hopefully this figure will fall if better any treatments are identifiedHope this is helpful|1 1200 is still absolutely unacceptable|0 did they not cancel for the Spanish flu What a 4head move|0 Aah yes the mighty h1n1 that had a lower fatality rate than the common flu|0 What distributorim on this for lupus should I Be worried about not being able to get this in A few months|0 If youre not in quarantine just buy rosemary bushes from a garden center They grow somewhat slowly We tried to start some from seed and our germination rate was 0 Some things like cilantro make sense to get small or start from seed Rosemary isnt one If you start rosemary from a cutting youll probably have a plant ready for trimming a year from now|1 Thank you You said what I was thinking but couldnt put into words|1 Its very sad how many people out there have no faith in the professionals like this who actually keep our country running|0 I agree with your hypothesis Problem is chloroquine is harmless Expats such as myself were given doses to prevent malariaWe have all lived long livesI am talking in a dire pandemicIt is cheap cheap cheap to produceGet it ready Thats all|1 I mean good|1 The Whampoa Garden resident had been to Wuhan on January 21 and returned to Hong Kong two days later via the express rail before developing a fever on January 31The man was admitted to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Yau Ma Tei on the same day where he was confirmed to be infectedHe had underlying health issues according to information previously disclosed by the Centre for Health Protection|1 Only the sith deal in absolutes I just qouted WHO values It looks very low unless nobody is reporting|1 This guy is a hero He is risking his life to report the truth risking getting infected but perhaps more importantly risking getting locked up for life by the very Chinese government pronouncing to protect its own people Americans often complain how all Chinese people are brainwashed the reality is most Chinese do not dare to complain Whah this guy did is literal heroism standing up to a real dictator We in the west need to make sure he is safe and we need to support more people like him in China|1 Any screenshot please Cant dont want to sign up for weibo|1 I work for a library We are closed to the public But for some reason our execs just cant justify sending us home paid without work to do At least not before the county makes a call We are independent of the county and do not operate underneath themSo because our county is idiots and isnt shutting down all our librarians are checking in books that cannot be sanitized properly And of course now in the 11th hour IT is being asked to prep 100 laptops if they do decide to send people home Because god forbid you focus on employee health and safety over politics and optics|1 I believe that any small business under 500 employees can wrote the pay off on their taxes If you have cash flow problems you can apply to have the money given to you rather than the write off|0 Pretty sure he meant the figuratively|1 But according to the Whitehouse It is contained Lol|1 Holy shit If your bf is that stupid I have some property I want to sell him Also has he any interest in Amway Its a great way to be your own boss |1 Alright show me the source for your claim then|1 I would rather it be 1000 per person as 4 people live in my house thanks|1 This insane lunatic is literally willing to let the world get decimated by infectious disease to try and get reelected And thats why he wants it only for America So he can say look what I did Only I have this cureHe takes zero responsibility for mismanaging things but I guarantee you he will claim credit for whatever solution is found And I can guarantee you it wont be him who finds itHe is evil No hyperbole no exaggeration Wanting the cure only for America so he can brag and take credit to benefit himself is evil He doesnt care about America or the American people He should swing from a rope|0 There is no worse place to lie down than the floor of an ER waiting room|0 no links|0 Heh Every cloud|0 Im in Montgomery County where most of the new cases are I work for myself and can choose to be pretty isolated but itll hurt financially My kids go to public school very close to schools they closed because they were connected to the CHop doctor My ex who share custody with is a police officer in Norristown and will be undoubtedly constantly exposed They have no masks sanitizer nothing for added protection Part of me wants to just hole up with my kids The most high risk person in my life is my mom who lives by herself and is retired She wont even stay home from even though she is generally a very anxious person I ironically an not usually anxious about safety or germs but I feel like this is this ticking time bomb that everyone is to scared to look at square on If I saw people taking action I wouldnt feel so anxious but its all too little too late|0 They definitely have But we understand Just grateful we still have food hahaha|1 Seriously why only 46 people are tested out of a ship of 3500|0 CDC sucksBut the rules preventing her from doing her job are the rules that stop doctors doing tests on you without your permission or releasing your private info to whoever they wantThey didnt have the participants permission to test for SARS2 Or to hand their identifying details to the public health authoritiesI personally think she made the right call Public good personal rights But Im usually in the minority on this topic on Reddit Slightest whisper of a HIPAA violation or cops using genetic databases to find criminals and everyones all but my privacy So Im finding it strange that so few people are talking about the ethical issuesIts more complicated than plucky little lab stands up to the CDC This is little lab committing ethical violation for the greater good against the backdrop of the CDC sucking so bad they felt they had toAnd now people are talking about some gag order without any source backing that up Which is annoying because Im stuck defending CDC from untruth and misinterpretation when Id much rather be slamming them for sucking so bad at testing Theres plenty to criticise them for no need to make up stuff Especially because it runs the risk of people focusing on that going oh that was fake news CDC didnt do that and then writing all the criticisms off even the valid ones|0 Haha Ive seen some cute little chalk board signs with little rhymes that ask people to remove shoes I usually put down the shoe towel by the front door for when we have guests come I say oh you can just leave your shoes here As sweetly as I can lol Sometimes I forget and people who are new to our house will just come on in with their nasty shoes Ugh|1 Cant be There hasnt been enough resolved for this amount of people If you look at the date the data is up to 21119 As of 217 we have more than 700 new deaths since they stopped the data|0 3 is a ridiculous assumption though|0 Coronavirus will radicalize the libs and Im so here for itFor those who dont know this is a Vladimir Lenin quote he was reflecting on the fact that after the 1905 revolution failed he didnt expect the revolution in his lifetimeIn 1917 he came back to Russia to lead the Bolsheviks they had 2000 members that year a few years later there were half a million|0 Correct there is no longer a shortage China can test hundreds of thousands a day and South Korea is currently testing tens of thousands per dayThe US government just doesnt work anymore if it ever did|0 Literally dont know any other adults who cant just use toilet paper I have IBS still survive with just toilet paper Youre missing the point Those wipes are for babies toddlers and really people in diapers because diapers trap the shit onto your skin Its not the same as using a toilet Calling me ableist while defending people hoarding baby wipes so parents cant get them for defenseless infants Youre a joke|1 I mean theyre on average younger patients and they have better healthcare So far all deaths we know of have been from old people who is unfortunately much more vulnerableWouldnt call him that old where in a first death case in Beijing it took not even full 3 weeks to die when returning from Wuhan The victim was a 50yearold man who had visited the central city of Wuhan the epicentre of the outbreak on January 8 and developed a fever after returning to Beijing seven days later the citys health commission said He went to a hospital on January 21 and died on Monday of respiratory failure the commission said httpswwwfrance24comen20200127beijingreportscapitalsfirstdeathfromcoronavirus|0 Are they any known viruses that act like this I have never heard of something that is work upon second exposure aside from Dengue|1 I think these alternate paths has more to do with a discrepancy in recent past history SARS experience willingness to do this China and maybe speculation some secrets that China knew and nonChinese governments dont know yet|1 RaTG13 was randomly generated in a cave withfrom other similar bat SARS like viruses so any type of gene transfer between them would be similar Since no other SARS like virus has mutated that way its very in likely that this one wouldnt unless it came into contact with a virus with the furin cleavage site and did some sort of gene transfer outside the cave Idk if thats possibleAnother paper mentioned that the pangolin virus also doesnt have the furin cleavage site so it would have had to mutate in one go to humans and stay there or find a different vector between pangolin and humans I just dont see why everyone is arguing the odds of this happnimg in nature when this mutation has never been seen before within the clad and we have proof that the lab in the city where it originated from was doing studies with the same gene insertion that has mutated into covid19|0 The nurs is working in emergency room not with quarantine Always when its News from aftonbladet take it with a truckload of salt|0 Hes a little busy Probably best not to disturb the man right now|1 This program never started due to fuckery with the CDC test kitsThe CDC announced a week and a half ago that it would add pilot coronavirus testing to its flu surveillance network in five cities a step toward expanded testing of people with respiratory symptoms who didnt have other obvious risk factors Specimens that test negative for flu will be tested for coronavirus But that expanded testing has been delayed because of an unspecified problem with one of the compounds used in the CDC test About half of state labs got inconclusive results when using the compound so the CDC said it would make a new version and redistribute ithttpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealth20200225cdccoronavirustest|0 AFAICR Prime has always had a 30 day free trial httpswwwamazoncomgphelpcustomerdisplayhtmlnodeId201910190|1 Exactly what I was thinking If this is so someone could fart silent but deadly farts and could literally kill people with them|0 While the MSM was telling you its just the flu Alexs listeners were prepping a month ago He sells vitamins and storable food Water filters shit like that He has never claimed to have a cure for coronavirus Alex is often full of shit but so is the mainstream media|0 Better link for you httpswwwnimhnihgovhealthfindhelpindexshtmlhttpswwwnimhnihgovhealthfindhelpindexshtml|1 His mom is hot as fuck|0 Sorry but that kind of makes me want to strangle you In a friendly Homer vs Bart kind of way|1 Thats the spirit I believe in your marinara ramen dish|1 Holy shit Hes resilient AF|0 With a ban on 100 people gathering are they recommending working from home too|0 The original human infection as in the original animalhuman Sorry I probably should just go listen |1 Very early to come to any sort of conclusionThe larger the growth the larger the time period needs to be to establish an accurate mortality rate|1 My friend has a friend thats a reporter told her he already passed but they were using ECMO to hold on to him|1 What he was saying but didnt realize he was saying was that he believes there are at least a half a million people out there who dont suspect theyre infected because their symptoms are so mild all going about their business and spreading the virus further Thats the only way the current data fits with his hunch that the real mortality rate is significantly less than 1 And he could actually be right but that 1 would still add up to tenstohundreds of thousands dead every year if it cant be contained|0 True but i do wonder how much this drives up the number of hospitalacquired cases If everybody with a light fever and a cough goes to the hospital for testing more than a few with runofthemill infections or even Influenza are gonna pick this up in the hospital|1 They also risking their family lives |0 Young old healthy immune compromised etc this virus does not discriminateIt absolutely does though in terms of riskYoure right that we all need to take this seriously but part of that is taking seriously your relative risk based on demographics If you are young and dont have other conditions the CDC strongly recommends you dont go to the hospital because you are unlikely to have more than mild symptoms and would be taking valuable medical resources away from those more vulnerable than you|1 Its an election year Just imagine how many hands politicians shake and how many babies they kiss during elections If its as widespread as we fear itll be Id be shocked if a few dont get it|0 Cool finally some action lets hope its not too late|1 Is there no employment insurance you guys pay into|0 IF the corona virus gets to be plague level bad they are going to look back and say that cellphones are like rats to the Black Death|0 SPAM IS MY GOD|0 Are you in Columbus and talking about sonic temple festival|1 Until you threated to reduce a tiny part of his earnings Then he says screw you all|0 Is that a wanna be dictator move or what Jesus Next thing they are gonna say is trump is smart|1 Man who said anything about it being west worlds fault Are you a troll or just reaaaaally slow Do you seriously dont get my first comment|0 take a look at pics from the ground any city that hasnt made it an actual ban people are partying even harder right now the stores and restaurants are slower but places where younger people gather are thriving atm|0 Theres basically two phases that are interesting at the momentYou start off with the primary source of infections being from abroad The government call this the containment phase Numbers will keep going up because we dont have an effective travel ban but if we can contain enough of the affected were mostly fineThe second phase is where your primary source of new infections is community infections person to person within the community The government call this the mitigation phase where they can no longer contain it but only try to make it suck less So if I go to China get infected and bring it back Im a phase1 infection If I go to work and give it to you thats a phase2 infectionSo heres the catch Once the primary source of new cases is community infections thats when these r0 numbers start kicking in and we start seeing exponential growth Once that takes hold an Italystyle outbreak is when not ifI believe with zero education on the topic France and Germany are already in phase2 and the UK is transitioning from phase1 to phase2 right nowBut as someone else said the actual population basically doesnt matter The UK is today where Germany was on the 5th Germany is today where Italy was on the 1st Unless were doing something preventative that theyre not the UK should expect to see Germanys current numbers in 56 days and Italys numbers in maybe 2 weeks There is no natural defence here no reason we should naturally do any better than them Either were more preventative than them more effective than them or were simply a few days behind them|0 If travel from Europe is banned I dont imagine airlines will still run the USEurope routes First demand will be very low since most travelers wont want to be stuck overseas that long Second theyd have to fly the planes back to the US empty which is very expensiveAny European traveler still here after Friday will likely be stuck here unless their governments charter flights for repatriation Its not unprecedented the UK did that after a major airline suddenly shut down a while back|0 Were doing pretty good in Singapore With our small size we might actually be one of the few countries that can successfully contain the spread Very tight contact tracing here with small borders|1 Well done|1 1 is an order of magnitude greater than 01|1 The issue will be in a month when there is no longer room at our hospitals due to no one taking this seriously now Hospital workers will have to consciously decide who lives and who dies The sick will not get the care they need|0 I dunno man Boston was essentially quarantined or on lockdown in the aftermath of the Boston bombing which was the stupidest reason to lock down a city ever and Bostonians were applauding it The instant the military did it people would go oh shit I guess we need to be quarantined Dont underestimate groupthink in the face of extreme authority|0 Thats the strong argument that a being withheld not enough surgical masks for everyone|1 Here I am thinking I was an idiot the whole time|0 This was the part of the article that really pissed me off As a Physician Assistant working in a busy NYC Hospital I want to do my best to care for as many people as possible But quite frankly I do not NEED to do anything Especially if I dont have the protective equipment that I NEED to keep safe I am begging anyone reading this if you can stay inside please please stay I know it seems like everything is fine and this is some big joke that will just blow over but I assure you it is not I dont care if you are a 20 year old and in the best of health this virus can kill you And the more people who decide to leave their houses the less people me and my coworkers will be able to save|1 I wouldnt be surprised if they are just finally confirming for themselves with what has been coming out of China for the last week This situation has really illustrated just how slow these governing bodies are at sharing information with each otherWe had to have asymptomatic transmission and H2H transmission verified outside of China like 4 or 5 separate times for them to confirm it when Chinese Officials confirmed it days ago Its like this for almost all governing bodies This is what the purpose of the WHO is for creating reliable information exchange to keep everyone informed and ready but they have not been doing that due to just how political it all has become I think this illustrates perfectly how a new completely independent organization needs to be set up to try and aggregate information and sift through what is accurate and what is not It is pretty crazy how some epidemiologists have been ahead of those in places of power in terms of knowing details about the virus just from places like Twitter and WeChat and stuff You have to be immensely skeptical and trained in the discipline obviously but its a valuable resource and it should be utilized Especially when global health is at stake|1 People like simple narratives Chinas authoritarianism was a mixed bag here Some things worked in their favor some didnt|1 Around 97 chance you wont die|1 Dont know where youre based but if in the USAveeno Skin Relief is an amazing hand lotion and is sold at drugstores I put it on every time I wash my hands and it seems to be helping not an ad|1 Theres a very good chance of that but even if we dont this is the nightmare scenarioSecondary transmission to a taxi driver will likely cause panic which isnt exactly unjustified in Thailand given the thousands of Chinese tourists from Wuhan who are stranded there now and the heavy usage of this type of transportation|0 Thing is I live in the East Bay already about 50 minutes southwest of where the no known cause case is I dont know I might be safer in Orlando LOL Either way if I stay or go im scared|1 I remember this video I knew this would happen lol Good Sue this con for exploiting peoples faith|1 In Soviet Russia virus isolates you|0 It sounds like her daughter doesnt speak Chinese She could potentially be stranded alone in the middle of an unknown city without the ability to communicate with others with few people to help because they are holed up inside protecting themselves from disease And I doubt there are many hotel options right now It is very possible that she would end up alone with nowhere to go I assume the language barrier is very important here Im sure if it was guaranteed the flight would take off she would urge her to get any flight possible|1 But if youre already paying for heating then there should be no increase in electricity costsExcept that my heat is powered by a natural gas furnace which is far cheaper to operate per unit of heat produced vs pure electrical resistanceBut yes you get a little refund from the waste heat|1 Switzerland has also banned gatherings of more than 1000 people|0 I completely agree Id go so far as to say that people who wont stay home are going to have blood on their hands Some guy in another thread was whining about his schooling being put on hold for two months Like a person having to take a two month hiatus is in any way comparable to tens of thousands of people becoming critically ill For the last few years a lot of things have happened that have made me realize that the US is filled with sociopaths Its sickening|0 You are experiencing history you will have stories to share with future generations If you make it|1 Thats great and all but not everyone you see out is getting a craft cocktail Many people are out because they need to go to work because they will lose their employment if they dont Might be hard for a rich PhD techie to understand this but hundreds of millions of Americans are living pay check to check These people would love to be able to stay home but they dont have that luxury Get mad at state and federal governments for reacting so slowly to this Not the guy who is risking his life just so he can pay rent or put food on the table This is such a yuppy tweet its comical|1 To add to this I think the best actions that regional large city based hospitals could take would be preparing for a large increase in pneumonia and pneumoniarelated complications as well as figuring out plans for rapid deployment of temporary beds Not necessarily on the level of the 8 day hospitals China has built but the hospital here in Austin did construct several shared tentbased containment facilities back during seine flu Of course since there isnt lical spreading here in the USA right now theres no need to actually construct said facilities but having a plan for if and when would be thoughtful I am sure they do of course since there are people who are paid to come up with contengeny plans like this but its a matter pf how fast could they deploy such measures|1 They have had 3 weeks since china went panic mode|0 They used it in publications up until March 2018 as far as I can see on their website and stopped using the category now since it would make them look bad or something according to themselves|0 Ive been trying to rationalize the death tolls in Wuhan Hubei Italy an Seattle but you are correct just found this over on NextrainThere is not evidence that any strain of the COVID19 virus SARSCoV2 is more severe A recent paper has claimed that SARSCoV2 has split into two strains L and S with the L strain causing a more severe version of COVID19 This theory was used to try to explain the higher case fatality ratio that has been seen in Wuhan China the epicenter of the outbreak as compared to other parts of China Nextstrain team member Richard Neher PhD summed up why this theory is inaccurate in this twitter thread In short this difference in case fatality rates is likely a statistical artifact due to the way that genomes are sampled extremely heterogeneously in time and space Rapidly growing local outbreaks get sampled intensively and result in overrepresentation of some variantsThanks for clarifying it for me I appreciate it|0 I cant wait until we become as sensible as you and Singapore lol Thanks for the information friend|1 They know we cant protest lmao They dont give a fuck Notice how quickly those nba players got tested Not the average folks though who are showing symptoms btw|1 So getting Iran back on track to the bomb is positive I dont think youre a real Trump supporter I think youre a troll trying to make them look even worse than they really are|1 He is not sick but being held by authorities Hes even said in videos if you dont hear from me Im not sick but they may quarantine me anyway|1 Extremely Poor practices on the cruise ship allowing the virus to spread to staffemployees not having different zones on the shipReleasing everybody from the ship telling themgiving the papers stating they are not a health risk and bizarrely intentionally basing the release off 14 days from the infection date of the first infected person and making no reference to all the other infections that took place after|0 I do find it interesting the immediate downvotes if I dont agree with this There was another post about the lack of civility when opposing viewpoints are raised and this is proof indeed and will probably be downvoted into oblivion immediately too|0 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Youre on the other side of the boat comparatively I appreciate the sentiment thoughHopefully it goes well down there youve already been having a rough time over the past yearCheers|1 Im not a doctor or scientist so I cant confirm what hes sayingThe director of the WHO has endorsed him commented that he was a reliable sourceHe is not a medical doctor he is a nurse with a PhD experience in teaching researching and front line work|1 Fuck yeah Socialism|0 Thats fine and dandy Im just pointing out that these underlying conditions could be found and pointed to for 999 of the human population|1 Rule number 1 never trust the Chinese government|0 That still misses the point how long does this immunity last We have no idea nobody does Further yet you can fight off a virus but that might not even give you immunity to that specific virus at all even if you do get immunity that virus could go on to radically mutate unlikely and then you wont have that same immunity theres too many variables that come into viruses to bank so hard on such a dangerous idea|0 Should have done this weeks ago I know a lot of people on these subreddits started social distancing around when the CDC made that announcement Wish that more people would have tried|1 The federal government is telling people to go about their lives as usualPart of life as usual at least in the US is not staying home when sick|0 Every year or 2 since 911 theres some world ending mega serious disease that comes up and is going to kill us all swine flu bird flu ebola etc Its not going to fucking happen A few people will get sick well overhype the shit out of a disease thats less lethal than the common flu and move on with our lives in a few months Its insanely more likely that the Chinese createdspread this virus purposely to shift focus from the HK riots and the MUSLIMS THAT THEYRE KILLING AND KEEPING IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS shut the fuck up about this dumbass flu|0 The statnews link in the original comment cites this study httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762692httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle2762692 that yes did show some air samples in a room with an infected person came back without catching a virus but they also point out that This study has several limitationsdue to operational limitations during an outbreak methodology was inconsistent and sample size was small 3 patients and the volume of air sampled represents only a small fraction of total volume and air exchanges in the room would have diluted the presence of SARSCoV2 in the airI appreciate the link I didnt know how contagious poop is Id heard of the apartment building with the clogged sewer line but forgot that paper found the surfaces aroundof the toilet had it so its likely during flushing the virus shed in a sick persons poop is getting churned up in water droplets They concluded with Significant environmental contamination by patients with SARSCoV2 through respiratory droplets and fecal shedding suggests the environment as a potential medium of transmission and supports the need for strict adherence to environmental and hand hygieneTotally agree with you that invisible airborness is the big unknownBut given how friggin fast this spreads among asymptomaticnoncoughing people I dont think its safe to say talkinglaughingbreathing is NOT kicking out at least some bits of water vapor that float for 3 hours|1 No Hide|0 A lot of this is the incredibly low interest rates Companies just borrow money and buy their own shares When corporate bonds are so low capitalism doesnt work correctly|1 In other words I am ignorant of the atrocities and tragedies around me from time to time|0 Dude I work retail I hear you No benefits and I mostly serve old people Its scary I dont want to hurt anyone But the business wont close|0 Ty was looking for this in vivo comment|1 Sorry man Im kinda blinded right now thx|1 Not necessarily to my understanding Its only specific certain mutations on genetic markers that make you prone to reinfection Im not an expert though|1 Do you even maths People can die from natural death as well as from nCoV|0 if so and I am sure this is correct probably months actually where are all the dead in the streets since there is WHO claims a nearly 4 mortality rate surely the dead would be piling upDont get me wrong this is very serious and the Trump idiot is making it much much worse but I am puzzled at the lack of deaths given how dangerous WHO is saying this virus is|0 Reminds me of the statement President Bush made after 911 We need to show the terrorists we are not afraid and go out shopping Show them we are not cowards take the family to Disney|0 This is thought provoking and highly disconcerting I believe we really need an all or nothing approach and we need it now and I am leaning towards all Locking down 320 million people would be a nightmare but not as great a nightmare as these halfmeasures and PR stunts to try and catch a horse thats already bolted from the barn|0 Bottom line from the articleThe lesson learnt from this is that all highrisk evacuees contacts and return travellers should be tested or missed asymptomatic cases may cause undetected chains of transmission in the community Failures in case detection and loss of epidemic control in other countries increases the likelihood of a pandemic which appears to already be upon us|0 Its seriously damaging to morale They must be seen to be taking actions forget the health side the quarantine is required for political stabilityPersonally I would still do it on health grounds if theres danger of overloading oxygen therapy methods in health facilities supporting Shiyan Ultimately people will need to learn how to work from home if possible|0 They are implementing unemployment sick leave and Family Medical Leave with less stringent requirements for exactly this reason in Washington as of today|0 Does anyone else view all this as corporate marketing I am getting emails constantly from any company that I bought something from in the past about their coronavirus policy and how they are making a difference It reminds me of when every company started going green and could stop telling every customer about it|0 Friend of mine in LA knows two HEALTHY late 20s kids on oxygen w it|1 Strong doubt my friend Have you seen the gaps on the sides I could stick my tongue in and lick the tasty coronavirus off of their lips|1 You have to wonder whether this virus is just smoke screen for what is actually going on Its not spread massively overseas in a month now Seems unlikely with airtravel spreading disease so easily Hopefully not a genocide going on right now|1 Fuck yeah pizza hut|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfcv0tzhowturkeymanagednottohavecovid19casesfje60rdcontext3 was automatically removed because it referred to a coronavirusrelated subreddit which has been quarantined by the reddit admins who have stated that it may contain misinformation or hoax contentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|0 Infectious disease professor now theres some peak irony|0 Surely even if you had a bad healthcare system itll still be detected once it gets bad like in Italy The difference is you end up with an Iran situation Which is a very scary situation for all concerned Those nations with lower levels of healthcare services and infrastructure are where covid 19 can cause horrific fatality rates |0 Ill say it againWe should be pushing to close down ALL schools right now for hell the rest of the school year Schools are one of if not the biggest source of viral spread in society Think about it there is no other thingplace where such a huge number basically from all of society gathers together in one place at one time Members of households from every part of society are in one place at one time for hours at a time 5 days a week Most importantly Schools unlike work are also in the short term completely unnecessary Especially in an emergency like this Closing them will not only help slow the local spread down significantly but itll also help slow the normal cold and flu down as well Thus making corona easier to spot early clearing up medical space AND eliminatinglowering a potential added complication for people who do get it ie a simultaneous coldflu infection|0 Nothing is black and white Again its not the teachers responsibility to solve the social ills of the city|1 We have a mall near us that closed about a year ago They were supposed to turn it into a medical facility Im not sure if plans are to tear it down or just remodel it but I havent seen any action with it so far|0 Id much rather let the professionals use it bc their are trained in using it correctly and also exposed to much much more risks than any lay person like you and me Also unless you are also going to wear protective eye ware and full on hazmat suit whats masks gonna do besides giving you false sense of protection If somebody sneezes on your face your eyes are still exposed But who knows maybe false sense of protection is better than feeling hopeless and unprotected Im not giving anybody advice here Wear them if you think it helps you just be mindful that if you are not used to it especially with eye protection thats going to fog up and force you to touch your face you might be worse off and also in shortage times masks could be much more helpful to others in hospital settingsWhat I do is I just dont go out dont meet people if I dont have to Do a big load groceries at once and wear disposable gloves to remind me to not touch my face And wash wash wash|1 Wow I mean something just asnt right with all this I mean hes not a total dumbass is he Dont answer that question|1 Mods are doing a good job removing inappropriate posts quickly You see it report it|1 All the hand washing is going to be a pain but it IS important I have been thinking about a wearing rubber gloves that have a flannel lining when Im out and about They are loose enough that theyre easy enough to pull off if need be and the lining makes them comfortable adsorbs sweat Having read the great advice about Dawn I could then carry some microfiber towels and Dawn to clean them during the course of a day|1 I hope mitigation gets a bit more effort and acknowledgment The west has really shit the bed on this one even after they watched China do the same damn thing My CEO literally said this will blow over and cool off just like it did in China He has no concept of what China had to do to sequester the epidemic|0 Sounds like in India it may be problematic given poverty levels and population density|0 I drive past a huge gym last night thats all windows I could only spot one guy in there at 1am Sadly I also drive down the main drag just to see and the bars were in full swing|0 When my loans first started I was accruing over 1400month in interest so good for you having 120 cant wait for the day I reach that Better yet 0month|1 O2 concentrators are easier to procure compared to a ventilator Would that be an option|1 His wife is high risk due to her age She is basically a boomer|0 Hmmm nothe ban started after they have confirmed cases and it was already too late by then with the start of community spreadFrom WikipediaOn 31 January the first two cases of COVID19 were confirmed in Rome Two Chinese tourists who arrived in Milan on 23 January via Milan Malpensa Airport and travelled to Rome on a tourist bus tested positive for SARSCoV2 and were hospitalised in Lazzaro Spallanzani National Institute for Infectious DiseasesItalian government suspended all flights to and from China and declared a state of emergencyTravel ban wont be effective once you have community spread|0 Do you have a link about those NJ cases only thing I could find was that a crew member died of something completely unrelated and that everyone they tested tested negative and the ship set sail nothing stating anyone was positive for COVID19 or taken anywhere heres a link httpspatchcomnewjerseyhobokencrewmandiesnjshipwhere27testedcoronavirusreports|0 How dare you try to slow the panic with reality|0 Is there a gun range near you that will let you try out various guns See what fits you Or a class Or a friend Im in CA Husband took me to the range My first time out 9mm at 20 all 9 shots were in the 6 target|1 They could just be the same sellercompany and have a stock response if any buyer shows doubts to buying from China|0 No one knows what this is yet so it would be stupid to disregard all info on other diseases we do know about just so we can feel better and throw caution to the wind If that bothers your normalcy bias then too bad We are not a year down the tunnel yet there is no 2020 vision here What you are doing is trying to censor discussion just like the Soviets after Chernobyl|0 Yes see it for yourselfFor those who wants contexthttpsyoutubei0hgfBkIBDM nuclear expert interview 1306 1002 306 httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomworld2019dec04radiationhotspotsfoundnearfukushimaolympicsitegreenpeace|1 They say 75 alcohol is effective Normally 70 is suggested Does this mean that 70 alcohol will not kill the virus|1 I will be messaging you in 1 hour on 20200309 190454 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003092019045420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsffxc0utopcoronavirusdoctorinwuhansayshighbloodfk16oigcontext3CLICK THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FCoronavirus2Fcomments2Fffxc0u2Ftopcoronavirusdoctorinwuhansayshighblood2Ffk16oig2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020030920193A043A5420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from 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and then increasing the price|1 Videos in this thread Watch Playlist 9654httpsubtletvcomrfgz25efeatureplaylistVIDEOCOMMENT1 httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvLJKs3d9wQMhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvLJKs3d9wQM 2 httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvNiMcbdYNMMIhttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvNiMcbdYNMMI17httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgz25efk7z7arcontext10fk7z7ar I like the idea but Im not entirely sure how a 3D printer helps Ideally we need to make something like in the link below but have it automated Wed need a mask instead of a tube down the throat as seen in the video Also Im not entirely shttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvfJNDgYunA4khttpwwwyoutubecomwatchvfJNDgYunA4k1httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgz25efka4un8context10fka4un8 My friend Lam in Hong Kong is already on itIm a bot working hard to help Redditors find related videos to watch Ill keep this updated as long as I canPlay Allhttpsubtletvcomrfgz25efeatureplaylistftrlnk1 InfohttpsnpredditcomrSubtleTVwikimentionedvideos Get me on 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peopleWhat am I not seeing hereYes blatant lying is absolute shit but speaking about all the possibilitys and inplikations all the time seems kinda problematicYes peoples lifes are valuable but not only those affected with the virusAll in all its a difficile thing to balance the various parts of the machinery Yes its hell yes its struggle but life is a whole way of struggleI am not opposed to Als the criticism the organisations and governments are receiving but maybe there are many inplikations and traps we or at least I do not see here|0 If we had planned ahead and EVERYONE wore an N95 without exhaust or a surgical mask while in public this would create an artificial herd immunity and reduce the R0 below zero|1 Absolutely no doubt in my mind thatll be the case|0 I was prescribed Prednisone but Ive decided not to take it because its a steroid and steroids weaken the immune system|0 They have geothermal electricity so they will be one of the few places that wont have to worry about the heatelectricity going out Small population they could probably feed though traditional fishing and the livestock they have|1 Thats the big problem that this virus results in pneumonia Thats the problem that people end up dying from in the end If you cant breathe you cant live There are other complications this virus can cause too like organ failure but pneumonia is the biggest issue Really this is what Aids patients end up dying from also pneumonia|0 The CDC only had a limited amount of test kits and they were having a high failure rate with the kits There is now a larger better supply of test kits so the kits have been distributed to the states to do so with as needed This is also why the CDC wont be tracking the numbers daily too Since they arent administered by the CDC anymore they will collect data and put out updates less frequently We will see a spike in diagnosis simply because not enough were getting tested and some people can carry the virus without being sick themselves|1 If I have a cold Im staying the fuck away from my family|0 Then look at water the same way You never know whose life is being saved with running water The potential that person has to change the world or at least their community|1 Im not arguing we should run nurses into the ground Im just looking at it from the hospitals perspective and frankly from the nurses perspective If they are anything like the nurses I know they will right or wrong not let being sick stop them from coming in if they are asked to Its part of the culture Theyre like football players they play injured unless coach forces them to sit|1 More like 1000 In Metro Manila we have 12 million people packed in a small area of 600 square kms Its going to be a shitstorm here|1 Gas mask or go home Also Im bearded and 200 bucks for a positive pressure mask and a filtered autumn is foghorn they used to be like 80|1 Because this is the result of some dumb cunt dropping a petri dish in a lab then putting it back like nothing happened then going home probs via the fish market to grab his dinner|0 I dont give a shit about Tom Hanks|1 Your efforts are appreciated|1 Yes i do understand that I dont agree with the way trump is handling this at all What i am trying to say is many countries in Europe have lower number and how trump seems to blamehate EuropeI also understand the usa is much larger and has a much larger population then the uk Part of our problem the us is our medical system Many peoples insurance isnt very good and some have none So they cant even afford to get medical care and that causes further spread|0 Exactly The fitting is the important part 90 wearers of the N95s I see dont have them properly fitted Not much more effective than a simple surgical mask|0 Yupp mine just crashed and I had to close out and reopen up just to see this post at the top|1 Nice Leaderboard1 uRepliesNice at 1791 nices2 ulerobinbot at 1589 nices3 uporousasshole at 529 nices132843 uDottedWarrior at 1 niceI AM A BOT REPLY IGNORE AND I WILL STOP REPLYING TO YOUR COMMENTS|0 My concern is that it will take them another few days to start action By then the 1000 will be 2000 and once action starts the first few days theyll catch some but if they dont get and least half it will have doubled again and total cases will have increased|1 Its free in Washington state It can be donehttpswwwkuoworgstorieswastatetocovercovid19testsfortheuninsured|1 greed|0 I cant find my original source which had much better context unfortunately buthttpswwwcnbccom20200221coronaviruslatestupdatesoutbreakhtml 143 pm Only three states can test for coronavirus because of flawed kitsCalifornia Nebraska and Illinois are the only US states that can currently test for coronavirus the Association of Public Health Laboratories told Reuters The CDC last week said some of the testing kits sent to US states and at least 30 countries produced inconclusive results due to a flawed component and the CDC planned to send replacement materials to make the kits work The CDC has increased testing capacity until new testing kits become available said Scott Becker the executive director of APHL which represents public health laboratories in the United States httpswwwcdcgovmediareleases2020t0221cdctelebriefingcovid19html In terms of the test kits you know what i think weve been as transparent as one could be about this issue Im happy to report that were fully stood up at CDC There is no lag time for testing at this point That is the focus of testing in the united states the testing here at CDC Weve had no issues at all in terms of the quality of that As weve pushed tests out to the state they did what we would expect as part of the normal procedures which is do the verification in their own laboratories There were problems identified with the test kits That is a normal part unfortunately of these processes We obviously would not want to use anything but the most perfect possible kits since were making determinations about whether people have COVID19 or not|1 Is it like Christmas in that theres a busy period beforehand but on the actual daydays everything is shut down|1 thanks for the chuckle|1 Fair point|1 WHO was in China and has a report in it They debunked the theory that we were seeing only the tip of the iceberg and said the number of unreported and mild cases is infact low China did massive testing of their population and the WHO was there and reported in it|0 To be brought low by merely a flu|0 Taiwannewscomtw is one of the three main English language sites posted in rtaiwan Taiwan News began publication in 1949 as China News Founded by James Wei It was the first Englishlanguage newspaper in Taiwan Its ongoing mission is to report on both Taiwanese society as well as modern global trends building a bridge of communication between cultures and nations In 1997 the newspaper was purchased by IMei Foods Co Ltd CEO Luis Ko who remains the publisher The name was later changed to Taiwan News as the paper began to move its focus toward local news|1 Yeah we felt really awkward with our handsanitizer but saw other people discretely use it Good Now I only wish wearing a mask would be more acceptable Not even the doctors wear it|1 Nice comment dummy|1 And yet the DNC didnt postpone primaries today except for Ohio and thats because the governor is broke a sweat to do so Irresponsible to say the least|0 I know the n95 disposable masks are designed to protect the user and others And that this is why they are so valuable to health services personnel As a health care professional in the absence of the n95 to protect THEIR health wouldnt the use of n95100 p100 respirators be effectiveThese can still be obtained on the market and while they are not ideal for the situation the health of the heroes on the front line may still be protected without doing any more harm to others than going without a mask altogether|1 Ugh I would skip that for sure|0 Fuck dictator Trump too maybe America needs some Freedoms xD|1 Except alcohol ruins your immune system cries|0 How does people this dumb get elected|0 Yes yesterdays total had several days worth of clinical diagnoses|1 Except I was never one two or three Nice attempt thoughSorry you cant sort through available data well enough to make valid comparisons between countries|1 Thank you Half this sub just wants to watch the world burn|1 They built cities for no reason I wonder what their aim has been Weird|0 I dont think there is a reasonably large amount of people who didnt go to the hospital despite lifethreatening illness or whom the hospital turned away despite lifethreatening illness|1 Is there someone we can call to complain|0 You confuse business owners with the 00001 of the population that are billionaire or multi millionaire corporation owners Small to medium size business owners get tarred with that same brush it seems but its a long way from the realityFeeling hard done by wont help anyone|0 Its that low because South Koreans are testing a shitton of people every single day on top of immediately quarantining people We arent South Korea isnt what is going to happen here we are more than likely going to be an Italy 20 but worst People in Italy will go to the hospital if they feel too sick or ill in America people will stay home out of fear of costs its ingrained in us It has the possibility to spike higher because of that|0 There is though now the producer is unable buy the resources needed for expansion of production as the profit generated likely wont cover the costs anymore|1 It could be a defense mechanism I sometimes slip into feeling weirdly excited like Im watching a work of fiction play out in real life But I snap back to reality and Im terrified for my parents especially my dad I dont think this is the end of the world but its very worrying for older people if this is not slowed down so that hospitals dont get overcrowded|0 You mean donating money to his own foundation so he can fly around the world playing White Savior Money that he earned by exploiting workers and running an anticompetitive monopolyGee what a guy|0 Humans are animals We only had ourselves to save us and now we have no one|1 So the actions and steps being taken by the US and the rest of the world seem like appropriate and heightened measures given the situation There is no sarcasm in my questionIm honestly asking|1 The window of opportunity for prepping is closing fast|1 Because no one has the amount of medication stored to treat the whole world with it My guess its produced in india or china too|1 im 100 certain that i would shit my pants if i saw a manhack coming at me in real life|0 I agree We can do more damage to the economy by staying home or more damage to our humanity by going out Gotta love natural selection|1 Happy cake dayI agree that health care providers and the career people in the CDC NIH HHS etc are working in the best interest of the health of individual patients and the publicatlarge unconcerned with political appearancesWhether or not the doctors and hospitals answer to the President the resources and challenges they gave are affected by his leadership and decisionmaking His decisions directly affected when and how many test kits have been available His rhetoric affects how people behave His own statements reveal his priorities But the horse is out of the barn on that We could have been in a better spot but we just have to recognize the one were in eg no not everyone with symptoms can access testing right now despite what has been said and do the best we can from hereIm sure it terrifying to think ones child has a pandemic disease and feel powerless to get them available resources The good news is that they can and should follow treatment as with a regular flu The less good news is that there might be a missed opportunity to prevent exponential exposures if there is a test to determine whether this is a confirmed case or not The more we shift toward universal voluntary social distancing home confinement the more likely exponential spreads will be avertedThe parent here has had an experience with the health care system that left them in fear of whether and how they could get necessary diagnosis and treatment for their child ifwhen he developed more severe symptoms They have lost confidence in the triage process and possibly the tracking and communication of exposures Fabricating info to try to get assessment or treatment would only make it worse overall I understand their fear and hope that their child already is showing improvement|1 They just put danger growing in the title to provoke panic|0 Thats what we Americans call a baptism by fire Feuertaufe|0 China really doesnt care what reddit thinks Its blocked anyway for mainlanders|0 So a good solution in your eyes is to pay an extra 135 a year instead of just removing regulationsWhat interim I left america 6 years ago and this is still the case nothing has changed The law is EXACTLY THE SAME TODAY as it was in 2014|1 Find a new crusade I was agreeing with you|1 Why do you exclude journalist and media People who recovered can interview with them too If you only count peoples twitter as real you are fueling your own anxiety Besides there is one on sharing on Facebook and reddit and a lot on Weibo Chinese version of twitter People are recovering No need to frighten yourself|0 its still 100000 better than doing no testing in the US|1 Hey random question since youre the poster in the juliagalef sub Do you have any idea what shes doing Since November 2019 she hasnt posted on twitter nor released a new podcast I hope all is fine|1 It doesnt effect young people they said Well when the hospitals are clogged with patients that need high intensity oxygenlife support from the coronavirus because we didnt social distance and little Timmy breaks his arm in half falling off his bike I hope theres medical staff available to help him|1 People are buying food not because they believe it will run out in stores but because they want to self quarantine|1 I hope they are staying healthy through this|1 I would take that information with a rather big grain of salt Heres a lot more information pointing to the contrary httpswwwdicardiologycomcontentesccouncilhypertensionsaysaceiandarbsdonotincreasecovid19mortalityhttpswwwbmjcomcontent368bmjm810rr16httpswwwresearchgatenetpublication7679870GoodACEbadACEdobattleinlunginjurySARShttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsf5igf1covid19anevidencebasedpossiblestrategyforNot to mention theres currently a clinical trial ongoing for treatment of Covid with Losartan an ARBhttpsclinicaltrialsgovct2showNCT04312009From reading most of these my rather uneducated take is that while some of these medications might present higher ace 2 levels which could facilitate in theory an easier infection pathway they might also be beneficial during the illness due to the same reason This last article explains the latter very well httpshealthcareineuropecomennewsseekingacovid19antidotethepotentialoface2htmlOne last interesting thing suggested is that cigarette smoke or nicotine inhalation inhibits the expression of ACE2AT2R in multiple organs including the brain heart and lungs which could explain to an extent the very low smoker numbers of infected seen in China but also the rather high of critical smoker patients which ended up being infected Ie smoking might make it harder to get infected low ace2 but if infected potential to have serious symptoms low ace 2 actual smoking damage to lungs is my guess Id also take this whole bit with a big grain of salt tbh since we need more datastudies httpsgrantomecomgrantNIHR01HL13563502Disclaimer Im not a doctor this post is no medical advice I just spent a lot of time doing my own research on the matter|0 Hardly retire The US is the only place Ive seen 80 year olds forced to work for a living|0 Its not the government who should pay for the salary of an employee in the private sector Its the boss of the company or just get unemployment|0 Because some people have been brainwashed into thinking its better for them to die in poverty than to pay for someone elses asthma medication|0 God is omnipresentPlease use these verses in your fliers Acts 74849 King James Version KJV48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands as saith the prophet 49 Heaven is my throne and earth is my footstool what house will ye build me saith the Lord or what is the place of my restMatthew 656 King James Version KJV5 And when thou prayest thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets that they may be seen of men Verily I say unto you They have their reward 6 But thou when thou prayest enter into thy closet and when thou hast shut thy door pray to thy Father which is in secret and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openlyDont forget they pass things out all the time declaring they know who goes to hell and believers go to peoples doors|1 Your doing Gods work Thank you|1 Furthermore801 infected23 hospitalized 4 in ICU2 in critical condition1 semi related death 80 year old dies from cardiac arrest tested positive after their death |0 For everyone who called this last week congrats It does seem like Super Tuesday was the real bottleneck here Now that voting is over the people can start getting informed|1 This bitch cannot even spell the virus name dont expect her last neuron to do extra work|0 Mine doesnt work that way It just goes on the card If I got the cash I would eat way cheaper lol|1 Also that the types of masks people were buying and wearing make little to no impact|0 Thanks for confirming|1 I got it at 30 I understand you completely I had good luck with Enbrel for several years but after about a decade it stopped working Went to Orencia and that worked just ok for a while then failed in a brutal prolonged flareup I went on Actemra several months ago and its been a charm I havent moved so well in years and am back to physical therapy and actual exercise Please dont kill yourself There are better days|1 Add Have extra trashbags You will need to replace them the outsides have a good chance of getting contaminated|1 This is soooo messed up|0 Youre going to get downvoted because youre suggesting we wait until an illness status killing millions of people before we worry about it when that view is exactly how you get illnesses that kill millions of people|0 The fact she felt the need to tell you she dousnt have corona is terrifying|0 My husband will love it|1 Actually yes it does We arent going to stop it The goal is to slow it down so that it takes longer to infect everyone so that hospitals dont get overwhelmed and run out of bedsequipmentThe more people who socially distance themselves the better|1 Tomorrow we will be hearing about it The Dow fell a lot Sunday It is very possible it will continue to fall America just needs a reason to care This is the reason to care articlehttpswwwgooglecomampswwwccncomdowfuturescrash520pointsaschinamakesshockingcoronavirusconfession|1 RT was there when my mom was in the ICU before she passed he never gave up hope until we called it That young man was an angel literally his name and I did the best thank you I knew how to do I wrote to his supervisor singing his praise I hope hes still an angel to families on that 4th floor ICU|1 The Chinese people are victims here We can hope that shedding light on the situation will motivate the Government be to be transparent It is what they responded to in the pastThe government and the people of China are two different enities and need to be treated as suchCitizens of China at great personal risk posted information in the internet to shed light on the situation in China Without their bravery we would know a lot less Those people forced the hand of the government in some cases|1 No one is taking this seriously I live in Washington right smack dab in the middle of where there is an active outbreak even here our state is on emergency and no one gives a shit Nothing is closing or people being sent home if they are sick My husbands boss is sick and came into work today to tell everyone Another employee came to work with a fever and was told to go home There was a kid sick here and the school closed to clean but is back up and running They will not close the schools unless its more serious Public transportation is all running even ComicCon is still going A lot of people are going to die|0 It might be working Ive put it across twitter as well|1 Forgive and let go mate not worth it|1 Im trying hard not to think about North Korea rn|0 But there are a lot more people who get the flu Wouldnt this only be a valid comparison when the virus has reached its peak infection|0 So if there is no indication of a threat why are you telling meThis is like the pilot of you plane coming on the speaker out of nowhere with a shaky voice and telling you not to panic|1 The same reason you cant base your madeup kill rate based solely off of deaths to recoveries ratio lolLook Im a recently recovered doomer all I can say is spend some time reading actual doctors discuss this global event on rmedicine daily coronavirus threads It helps Unless youre one of the crazies that believe they arent doctors and theyre just paid CCP accounts lmao|1 Well that cant be fucking good for all the patients he saw after|0 Same Perhaps humanity will be changed for the better well have to work together and drop our petty disagreements in the face of so much death and tragedy But I think we have a responsibility to try to minimise it as much as possible and thats why I support the stayhomehttpsstaythefuckhomecomsfw movement|0 This one is CPU only right Im already running FoldingHome on only my GPU I could join the Rosetta team if GPU processing is available My CPU is already burning hot without running this program haha|1 Sad to hear Looks like only Asian countries seems to appreciate masks|1 Fucking hell When this is all over all I hope at the very leaaat it opens everyones eyes and moves towards a dramatic change in our health care system|1 Theyre up 115 not the worst|1 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnbccom20200316cdcconfirmsfirstknownemployeeinfectedwithcoronavirushtmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 flu not fly |0 They still do My dad came over talking about how theres already a vaccine for coronavirus and WHAT ABOUT SWINE FLU DURING OBAMA|0 The truth is he is to narcissistic to want to know Heaven forbid he isnt seen as a tremendous specimen of a man the best looking and immune to every disease His ego would not take it if he gets sick from a hoax|1 Im not sick I swear What Coughing up blood Nah thats not ebola its just my TB acting up nothing to worry about|1 Ive tried to understand their popularity Granted I had no early experiences with them but It just doesnt appeal|1 My friend told me he is traveling to Greece in 34 weeks and that he may get n95 masks for the planeI told him that there may be no flights leaving LA or maybe entering Greece lol He didnt like that|1 If any landlords want to temporarily drop rent prices to break even and be able to pay themselves a reasonable amount that would help too Its in their best interest not to evict people or cause their tenants financial hardships Landlords who help will keep their tenants longer Vacant units are expensive|1 I would love to wear bandanas They look cool They could be functionally fashionable|1 Right I should go tested for cancer every day even if its impractical and will bankrupt me|0 Johnson county KS where there have been a few casesPopped into Hen House this morning to get some heavy whipping cream and cereal Not too many shoppers yet The store was pretty well stocked Low on paper goods and cleaning suppliesEdited to add our Microcenter computer and office equipment was crowded Employees told me they are busier than usual and had to put a 5person limit on computer screens Many employees around here being told to work from home soon|1 RemindMe 10 DaysEdit lol who downvotes this This isnt for you|1 Shes not wrong Misinformation is worse than a lack of informationAnd we cannot assume what kind of person she is like this Its not right|1 I wore a reusable face mask today doing groceries While I did get some worried looks no one harassed me I think if enough people keep wearing it this will become the new norm|0 Wait it was so severe even ECMO or retrovirals werent effective Was he not diagnosed early Or did they not try those procedures|0 Tell them youre infected and that youre going to go anyway|0 The rich providing assistance is not only the right thing to do but also provides them with protection should the majority revolt Welfare wasnt created because Americans care it was designed to protect the rich|1 This is happening in the UK too News report where they interviewed a load of school children what its been like All of them are being bullied theyre the corona virus kid now All the Chinese restaurants are reporting a 5060 downturn Many reports of an increase in racial abuseIts really sad that innocent people are being made a target because of this|0 No one is happy our parents and grandparents are at risk I took this information as them trying to draw a parallel to the seasonal flu Similar to seasonal flu older people and those with weakened immune systems are at greater risk And the information being released by the WHO and CDC including press releases is written by medical people who tend to have a more clinical personally removed perspective Not because they dont care but speaking from my own experience in healthcare you need a certain degree of personal removal to not be emotionally destroyed by your job As younger people were obligated to help protect our vulnerable family and friends everyone really but those are the people were around most by trying to keep ourselves from getting the virus Because if we get it theres a good chance well infect the vulnerable people in our lives Or if we do get it we need to isolate ourselves from them This is why at my hospital we all are required to get flu shots every year or wear a mask if we dont The flu shots arent for us as much as they are to protect our patients from catching it from staff Just an example of how vulnerable people should be protected from healthier people who may be carrying a virus while feeling ok|1 why does this only consider those that havent progress to life threatening levels but not those who are asymptomatic or just not sick enough to be tested|1 Which is why we call it Wuhan Virus to delineate from the other corono virus strains|0 Any place the weathers bad most of the year Thats how it is|0 I live in a hurricane state I always have at least a couple weeks worth of nonperishable food and basic medical supplies just from habit Plus it kept me from going hungry if I had an unexpected expense when I was poorerBut I work with people who are paycheck to paycheck and cant do that Either from true dire finances outside their control or because they just dont prioritize it over going out to eat or some other discretionary expenseI warned my coworkers about a potential hours cut or shutdown for potentially weeks late last month and they mostly just shrugged it off One or two did make some preparationssave extra moneynot spend their tax refund yet at least|0 An acquaintance just told me its pathetic how social media is using Coronavirus to criticize Trump Then another chimed in with Deep State remarks I have 6 more hours to go with these two idiots before my shift ends|0 thats because in the shit countries people die before growing old|1 As an ICU nurse this is what concerns me We are already getting overwhelmed with flu A We dont have the resources for this|0 The cdc was asking doctors not to test Normally youd be right but this CDC is being run for propaganda|0 Idk its reasonable to question Chinese CCPThis is one of few optimistic posts I have seen here do I hope it is true D|1 The people running those stores are misinformed ignorant or prioritizing profits over customersI would trust the Public Health authorities they consulted with to make the decision over some guy on reddit with the username dontsuckmydick|1 In Seattle AirBnB would pay for that in no time|0 For sure I work in health care in rural NL and people particularly in the older generation think antibiotics cure every little sniffle and depending on the Dr a lot just give in and hand them out We actually had public ad campaigns against people seeking antibiotics when not needed Im pretty sure there is a lab personnel shortage across the island as well Its this weird belief around here that we will be the last to get it being and small island community but I know of 3 families that returned from Asia recently not to mention all the people going through Pearson airport and coming home either from out west working or down south vacationing|1 Incredibly informative Thank you|1 herd immunity as the aim so lets do nothing is completely false and alarmist The aim is to flatten the peak by doing timed interventions There is no herd immunity plan Herd immunity is a by product of flattening the peak and every western nation will say the same|0 There can also be adverse effects to closing schools for exampleYoure forgetting something here mateTeachers and support staff Large amounts of which are FIRMLY in the age brackets for deathdisability if recovered bilateral interstitial pneumonia which leads to heavy fibroid scarring of the lungs|1 MegacityA megacity is a very large city metropolitan area typically with a population of more than 10 million people Precise definitions vary the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs in its 2014 World Urbanization Prospects report counted urban agglomerations having over 10 million inhabitants A University of Bonn report held that they are usually defined as metropolitan areas with a total population of 10 million or more people Others list cities satisfying criteria of either 5 or 8 million and also have a population density of 2000 per square kilometre PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|1 Youre not working on a predictive model You took an exponential growth formula from and plugged it into a chart According to your model 1 billion Americans will have the Coronavirus in 50 days from now|1 Redditors can be so nice I have a lot of good friends that I sorta met through reddit|1 primetime news last week said a new second strain o the flu is making its roundskids are getting sick for a second time this flu seasoni also just want to point out that the last flulike infectious disease pandemic with a huge death toll was suppressed by governments worldwide im just saying regardless we need to keep an eye on all of them given their track record and the likelyhood that they may be coordinating with one another|0 Which is a very positive sign|1 We ran out Wednesday night and stocked up on food pet supplies and basic medications OTC stuff I feel better knowing we could hunker down in the house for three weeks or so without having to make a run for things|1 What about millions of Americans who cant afford to buy the test kits Pretty sure everyone in Seattle can afford to buy themselves those|1 Meanwhile WHO is enjoying the weekend Maybe come Monday they will finally declare it what it is a pandemic|1 most humans are imbeciles1 The government has been downplaying this since day one people that have no critical thinking skills or scientific knowledge generally believe whatever the authorities say yes it is very dangerous but it is what it is2 The naysayers ALWAYS say nay no matter what Usually they are right but eventually they are wrong Unfortunately when they are wrong their mentality makes the problem 100x worse When the government does itand it always will it then makes it 1000x worsestackedx200BNothing can be done about it it is due to lack of intelligence You cant automatically make those people intelligent This is why education is so importantand it needs to be restructured for modern knowledge Everyone should learn biology medicine etc to a high degreeabout 10 years study along with other things such as physics mathematics and psychologyx200BIt is the same problem as those who always cry wolfvs never crying wolf these people also lack the ability to critically think and the scientific knowledge to verify facts They then spread BS that dilutes the knowledge base and this creates more naysayers and more conspiracy theories the truth then is covered in layers of BS on both sides The governments are filled with those sorts of people|0 No data no decision Less data wrong decision Absolute datassss yummy but there is no perfect world|1 Apparently the legal sale of marijuana has increased significantly Same can be said for alcohol|1 I would be happy to help moderate although I have no experience sure I can learn quick I get quite alot of free time|1 Surgical masks dont seal at the sides where it vents N95 would be superior in filtering and providing a seal|1 See page 3 of the WHO doc i linked for severity categories Decent doc worth a read|1 Yeah I hate that man as much as CNN does but he didnt directly say the virus was a hoax He said the idea that it was his fault which he blamed Dems for pushing was a hoax Which I dont agree with either I think it was partially his fault for mishandling but its clearly a more defensible contention than the virus is a hoax aka doesnt exist|0 They did substantial contact tracing early on for the whole of the contain phase and got many people tested and into selfisolation early on reducing the infections theyd causeI dont think that flattens the peak really but it does help slow and delay it|1 Just keep your hands clean minimize touching of your face with unclean hands stay away from sick people and try to avoid large crowds ie dont go to Costco to buy TP or hand sanitizer and the odds of contracting it are still pretty low even if it is in your area The R0 value of the flu is 23 and the R0 of COVID is showing as between 14 38 Now think about when the flu is in your area and you know several people that have gotten it I bet you probably didnt However we also have to take into account that nobody has immunity to COVID since it is new so it is probably easier to catch than the flu which were exposed to constantly Just take some precautions and realize that the vast majority of cases have relatively mild illness Not going to say that it wont be miserable but the chances of you ending up in the hospital are pretty small unless you have some kind of preexisting condition Try to do as much as you can to minimize the risk to others Wear a mask if you feel sick even if you arent sure if it is COVID sanitize your shopping cart if you go shopping use hand sanitizer when you get into your car from any public place etc If we all do this we can significantly slow down the spread of COVID I was at the store the other day and some lady was hacking up a storm and not covering her mouth She was coughing all over just about everything Horrible It makes me want to carry a bottle of bleach around|0 Conclusion stay the fuck home|0 Theyre adorable little plague rats I was laying on the couch yesterday and my 4 year old walked up to me at face level and sneezed Covered half my face in phlegm Sorry DadaIm pretty sure Im gonna get pink eye and coronavirus at the same time now|1 If youre young and otherwise healthy your chances of dying are an order of magnitude lower than that|1 This is not unreasonable You dont get second chances|0 So people who are prepared are the stupid ones Enjoy your dirty ass lol I have food and toilet paper WINNING|1 In that scenario the consequence would likely be prison terms|0 Yes I read that too Im not sure that 2 years of school closures extreme social distancing and other measures even on and off can be sustained Think of the economic damageThe economy that we had before this would suffer a lot of damage yes But a new economy will emerge that consists of businesses that either adapted to our new reality or jumped on the opportunity to fill a new need we didnt have beforeThis mindset is no different than the one thats revolved around climate change vs the oil industry just on a much shorter time scaleThe economy will be fine we just need to embrace change and adapt|1 5 deaths before we have even begun widespread testing or contact tracing Absolute disaster|0 My fiancs second job just had someone come back from a trip to DC feeling sick This company had recently sent out info about quarantining and using ETO for it Now that someone is sick those rules are gone and shes being told she has to go into work anyway as its unlikely to be Coronavirus I told her to quit Bullshit they act caring until their business is actually put into jeopardy This on top of our state having its first confirmed case announced today Not that person but that person also cant get tested because they didnt travel outside the country If my house ends up with it after we canceled our god damn wedding for fear of catching it and spreading it to our family I cant put into words how angry I will be I will take all of the emails from that company and blast the media with them forcing her to go in despite all the signs they need to be on lockdown God Dammit|0 I believe the suggestion is that if a lockdown is ordered not only would rent be deferred a month without penalty but that your mortgage payment would ALSO be deferred a month without penalty OR accruing interest The US has not had a shutdown like this in modern times Even in 1918 we did not have such an interconnectedness of people and companies|1 Hope your wife stays safe|1 laughs in prepperBring that shit|0 Same haha|1 Yup I told family members and coworkers to start prepping in case shit hits the fan a month ago Everyone thought I was paranoid exaggerating the symptoms of the virus and that its only in China Now my parents text me at work supermarket if we have any Lysol and Clorox left they are taking it seriously now I hate saying I told you so but luckily for them I bought supplies little by little|1 Tank Drone strikes making their US debut|0 Sounds like someone wants a 1 way ticket to the states where people cant even afford to go see the doctorI honestly wish people like you would go for a nice stroll in quarantine zones and contract the diseases that everyone else tries to preventtreat with socialized healthcare|1 And term limits in fact make people more beholden to lobbyists because it leads to politicians having less institutional knowledge and needing to structure their votes in a way that can get them hired as a lobbyist after they are termlimited out In places like Michigan having termlimits for state legislators hasnt worked out well|1 Chinese propaganda They covered it up and lied which is why we are in this situation today|0 Thanks a lot I am constantly thinking about a favorable outcome if it comes to my family I probably do have more resources than the average person but still it isnt us who decide how this might all end right Its my first day in office today after a terrible weekend I drenched myself into COVID19 news and articles I do feel better There is one big yesyes in my collegues attitude they wouldnt let me talk about the virus and its impact as much as I would want to so I happen to naturally be forced to dig into other news primarily domestic Other than that no hobbies that I could turn my mind and time to My everyday is a neverending chain between news and household duties What really caught me offguard and absolutely stunned me was the fact that I literally stopped using social media and isolated from communication with friends online|0 True a lot of infrastructure still needs to be handled and availableHowever you can dramatically lower the number of people the virus has access to thus you get a lower number of people affected which might be just enough to not get in a critical phase for the health servicesThey are reporting this from Italy some people will just have to be let go because the probability of survival is so low and they cant use the resource on trying and hoping Bad in and of itself but even worse when they start running out of painkillers|0 I dont think the AIDS epidemic and Covid are a fair comparison|1 Why cant the American public see this for what it is I can and I cry for you guys in the states with this guy in charge you are screwed You even have to pay for a test Omg|0 Calm your tits China went through the worst of it Look at what happened there to know what to expect at the absurd|0 This as well|1 Exactly the point I was trying to make with my comment Due to the way the virus spreads we are likely past the point of preventing catastrophic spread without full measures of quarantine and travel restrictions Which need to be enacted now like yesterday Half measures will avail us nothing|0 Canadas biggest music event The Junos will be held on March 15th because the province has had no cases|0 Aight Sounds good|1 Exactly Here in Karachi People are still clogging into Restraunts and the Beach Pakistans Sindh Province is the Hardest hit but our people dont careFor once I agree with DPRK They shot the bloke that didnt adhere to anti Corona measures|0 Well maybe the comedian who was on the quarantained cruiseship did a great effort for the win|1 It really is and as a Malaysian Im really pissed off about this We didnt ask to be lead by a stupid backdoor government My only option right now is hope my company offers the work from home program this week so I can start self isolation|0 They are letting WHO in now FYI httpswwwwashingtonexaminercomnewschinaagreestoletinternationalexpertsintocountrytohelpwithcoronavirusoutbreakhttpswwwwashingtonexaminercomnewschinaagreestoletinternationalexpertsintocountrytohelpwithcoronavirusoutbreak|1 And watch the sub20 sex offender registry explode|0 Are you feeling euphoric fellow atheist tips fedora|1 Fucking great book|1 Im sure theyre pissed at him for cutting their budget |0 However its not the Black Death|1 My husbands the same Just rolls his eyes every time I bring it up Ive been buying a little extra every week for a good month made me feel like I was doing something proactive I completely agree that talking helps A problem shared is a problem halved and all that People dont get it government are downplaying it and no one trusts the media|1 Play stupid prizes|1 This is at least 15 weeks to 2 weeks old news None of these article mention which company or research center is taking these findings and doing preclinical trials I feel like nobody has taken these Important findings and doing anything with it All these article end with the Jeremy guy saying experimealists should use these findings He doesnt mention if he connected with anyone Or anyone connected with him Thats the most tragic part I wish I could do experiments I wish was a person of note who could get this project running or make some calls to get right people involved|1 what are your epidemiologists opinions on italy being completely shut down and them having to choose which patients to admit based on survival chances|1 Im not an epidemologist But Ive been saying the same thing we need an antibody test testing for RNA is well and good but if theres an asymptomaticvery mild symptomatic reservoir out there we need to know about it as well as antibodies giving us a decent idea of how big this iceberg actually is My question is there anything us citizens can do to put pressure on the CDC to develop and do widespread antibody testing|1 Thats exactly why the admin saying its just the flu is so goddamn dangerous People are going to die because they were expressly told by the authorities that this wasnt that serious|0 Like the Northeast urban cores have accepted pervasive skin diseases and bedbugs so the South will become innured to pervasive lung infections It is already many across the old slave states already carry persistent MRSA in their lungs|1 They arent And if they are they created this virus|1 Just like Trump|1 China flu is much more fear mongering and uncertified China bad etc This week it was full of Post asking for Pats on the back about how they were right about hoarding stuffs on how the warnings were true etc etc because of Italy US like the people dont understand exponential growth here |0 Absolutely I understand not wanting to shut down the economy but there are so many studies in public health showing that proactive preventative healthcare is more effective No way COVID19 is an exception|1 I agree this is only going to become apparent when old people start dying If 13 of NYC gets it lets say 3M people and the mortality rate is 1 then that is 30K dead in NYC alone That is pretty bad I dont think the mortality rate will turn out that high but I do think there could be up to 30K dead probably more like 3K10K|0 That is correct My concern is that I never really got over whatever I had before or did I That is why I will see my primary doctor on Friday for my scheduled appointment to confirm I have asthma and endometriosis I dont have time or the money to play these guessing games I dont fight things off as easily I am 36 years old with health issues Both of my kids are also asthmatic Better to be safe than sorry I feel worse than when I had the flu the first time Which at that point was my very first time ever having the Flu everAlso I was tested at a clinic so that I could be seen quicker for meds before my appointment Not sure if taking a flu test is the same How should I know for sure if the people in the big ass building I work in from all walks of life have not been to other countries My HR has already told on themselves to me over the phone that they are escalating my call along with others Not sure if she was supposed to say all of that Id rather be safe than sorry They were already looking to possibly make us all work from home soon due to what is going on|0 I agree the market will dip but investors seem to be optimistic about long term growth The virus isnt impacting the financials of most of these manufacturing firms in the long term just the short term That means these companies are still worth about the same valuation but perhaps not over the next 3 months To most investors who are bullish on long term global markets the dip is an investment opportunity|1 I am convinced but its trying to convince the masses that think that the flu is worse so dont be alarmed|0 How many illegals does South Korea have South Korea is one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries in the world Id imagine that number would be one of the smallest out of rich developed nations lol I could be wrong on that but itd still be a small number by comparison What is is like koreaboos Chinese and south East Asians|1 I asked they said no|0 My grandma is a rabid Trump hater and the venom shes spitting is worse than ever beforeIts a shame shes got COPD and congestive heart failure so she can only talk to me about it over the phone Shes so pissed off she cant go anywhere|0 Im also due in April I share your sentiment|1 Which should help realize that purpose is foreign to biology Also a substantial part of our genome is of viral origin Common ancestors being infected and passing the viral DNA to descendants While it has no purpose it shapes evolution and survival of the fittest mind you|0 Factory is open Some worker is kill some live No worry such is life Why you worry factory is open|0 Indeed Perfect what you said|1 Edit he just told me everyone can work from home but his groupIn any other thread this would mean your husband is cheating on you|0 A corrupted business that has rotten its good values|1 Yeah Chinas totally not lying because they never do that They especially dont do that to cover up their blunders And certainly have not jailed doctors or others who were trying to spread awareness before the outbreak Chinas awesome|1 Intelligent LOLI guess people with AK47s would likely have the better of you anyway|1 Its pretty quiet out in Putuo where I am CNY definitely makes the city less energetic but youre right its different now Even in my living complex where we walk our dog the wife insists we stay away from anybody we see walking despite everyone having a mask on The extended holiday has probably postponed the return of many to the city as well My friend said he went to Co Cheese yesterday and it was pretty empty downtown where he lives and he was the only person in the restaurantKFC for too long cant be good for you Cook something |1 I love how nobody actually had an answer to your question|1 same Ive been stocking up gradually since late Jan though thankfully so have my family members who live elsewherewe all took this seriously from the getgo Virtual elbow bumps to you all lets hang and get through this together|1 Hey guys lets look to history to give us a few lessons and a bright outlook Remember the world faced rough times after 1929 but by the end of the 30s things started looking better well and then a world war came so uhfuck|1 Russia had just lost ww1 and I believe there was also food shortage The revolution was partly a response to those|0 While I agree eating cats and dogs is gross its only cause of our western cultural upbringing We eat cows and pigs which are plenty smart and emotional and we think nothing of it|1 Ive talked to a lot of them and at first I thought that what you meant by it was sense cause these are some stubborn and ignorant bastards Im speaking to you couldnt talk sense into them with a bullhorn in your hands and a klaxon horn going off behind you|0 Agreed|1 Because the dumb government thought this would scare a lot of people so that they dont go to protests|0 20 are seriuoscritical casesWe dont know how many of the remaining 80 would be hospitalized under normal hospital working situation We know that in Wuhan at least part of them die due to lack of access to hospital|0 Poor guests they came all this way only to test negative I hope they can do the test again at the next port of call and maybe get a solid positive result|1 Nope Most are actually made in Germany and the US thankfully|1 The Foundation is focused on its area of expertise which is diagnostics therapeutics and vaccines There will be lots of opportunity to give to social service organizations including food banks and I am sure people will be generous about this Once we know who tests positive we can figure out how to support them so they can stay isolated and still get the food and medicine they need|1 Although theyre easy to make they have to be shipped worldwide to alot of countries in every continent except antartica ofcourse so there will be shortages if you begin trigger happy testing|1 So my last test results wereNeutrophils Abs1299 KmcLLymphocytes Abs 030 KmcLWhich would give me a ratio of 433 but those were taken a few months ago when I was in the ER for Norovirus I assume that would give me bad resultsI have results from a few years ago which show 3217 which seems a lot more normal|0 Well or something he touched before he put his hand in his mouth|1 Woooooow he came to the doctor on the 3rd and they sent him home without testing him then he came back on the 9th in critical condition Thats freaking negligent WE NEED TO TEST PEOPLE AMERICA|0 Fired in 321|0 Why is it spreading in Australia during summer in this case Singapore is slowing because they are dealing with the problem at a much larger scale not because of heat|0 20 can overwhelm a system httpsiimgurcom5rNv7UDpng|0 a missed payment or two How do you pay for rent then What if you were eating beans and rice anyway|0 OK|1 I believe he is speaking of degos greaseballs whops Im a dego so dont get all shitty|1 There are plenty of tests in other countries they have offered to send them to us the admin refuses They could have been here weeks ago when the first batch were faulty and we got the offer|0 Unless you planned ahead over a month ago and purchase 3M 6000 series half face respirators for the family In addition to the fact they actually fit and seal properly they can be sanitized The pancake style cartridges can be reused for a while as long as you treat them as highly infectious and dont touch them The cartridge style can be wiped and cleaned on the outside|1 Hes a terrible speaker|0 We will drag it out We can beat this|0 Historically fear and economic uncertainty nudge people to the right more concerned with their own problems than societys with a lag time of five to ten years So I think this continues to be bad news politically likely overall to bolster right wing populist movements around the world|0 Lets compare this with the worldhttpsipinimgcomoriginalsd0c65fd0c65f6cf43e813abf70c61ad6f3f608png and we know how devastating it may get for some peoples|0 This is madness Our local news is even doing stories on people that are unable to get tested because there are not enough testing kits Im sure this is everywhere also What a joke|1 Oh great now all the rFreefolk are going to get it|1 But China was the first to be affected and there are many other democratic countries currently failing|0 I am sure they are being well taken care of Theres a newsthat while medical staffs werewaiting outside the Redcross warehouse a driver obviously a driver of a government official walked in and took a box of N95 masks|1 You heard the man Close the schools now kids cheering in the background|1 Still cheaper lolLoans are a bitch|0 Yay this is the AMA I really needed Does it seem like amazon will be closing in the near future at all Or would it continue going so long as postal services continue|1 Seriously though no one took this shit seriously until Tom Hanks and an NBA player caught the virus A few more celebs and North America will go in complete lockdown|0 If we let him masturbate furiously to his hero fantasy in his mommas basement hell never get around to actually having to go though the HORRIBLE BIG SCARY BACKGROUND CHECK|0 I achieved that in my first 6 months of work Now I just want vacations and sex tbh|1 Listen guy those CDC test are perfect Perfect like the transcript or the call well maybe not as perfect as the call|1 If people are willing to pay that price for a luxury theyre willing to pay that price for a luxury I dont understand how a government stealing private property especially from very small businesses an acceptable solution for anythingUse government resources to produce the masks|0 These guys are in critical condition I think its time for darts in the dark And if that dart turns out to be a flame thrower I guess we will just have to run with it|0 My restaurant closed and the owners didnt tell us and wont answer their phones shit|0 Well well well how the turntables|1 No one is saying anything because everyone knows that 3000 cases is around the maximum they can process per day few hundreds|0 The whole bio weapon theory is just chaff spat out by Russian troll farms People have been warning everyone about this exact problem for years and nobody was doing anything to fix it Eventually China was going to generate a bug so virulent it kills off a good portion of humanity Its inevitable They have terrible food safety practices and give people fistfuls of antibiotics for minor ailments Ciprofloxacin doesnt even work in China you have to use Norfloxacin Cipro is what they use to treat anthrax|0 One major problem I have with this paper is that it uses the methods of this previous paper to estimate the outbreak size httpssciencesciencemagorgcontent32459341557httpssciencesciencemagorgcontent32459341557These methods to my understanding assume uniform distribution of cases in the country Whereas I would guess its more prevalent among religious pilgrims who are traveling in groups and get exposed to shared surfacesAlso this article has been posted here before|0 My thoughts exactly Potentially someone fear mongering|0 Im giving it two weeks when images of overrun hospitals in many states play on nightly news Another week for the most rural of communities to see outbreaks within their towns|1 Its completely possible for Iran to have 5 cases have all of them die and the true mortality rate of the infected population still be 2Possible yes Likely The odds of that would be astronomical One in about 3 billion chances if I did my math right|0 When I worked retail we werent allowed to accept tips If you did and it was found out you could get fired|0 Why is this so true Between the NBA shutting down and Tom Hanks confirmed if the US doesnt take it seriously now they wont ever take it seriously|1 A name is just that a name Please judge my by my actions no more no less|0 CDC to the elderly Please stay at home and cancel your flightsThe elderly No I dont think I will|0 Wait It isnt currently free|0 Whats worse is that theres a Washington county in Oregon The headline should state A Washington county|0 Good Bot|1 President Of The United states|1 Damn how long did you have that fever all days combined before you were finally admitted to the hospital|0 Dump a few million quid into tory party coffers then theyll do whatever you want Not got a few million to spare Well maybe have a think about that next time theyre up for election|1 Alright You cant just say this and leave us hanging Which areas and how many|1 I would take my chances with a group sourced unapproved but promising vent if I had to Same for a well read but unlicensed physician|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Well whatever he has he just gave it to to his daughter|1 Big business will adjust new opportunities state side will open up to fill the demands of production now defunct in China People keep telling me its impossible to go back but its not Its just going to suck for awhile This is a correction in the manufacturing sector long overdue Stupid of so many to put so much behind one country even one as big as China I feel for the Chinese I want them to survive this and go back to work but I hope for all our sakes a lesson is learned here|0 What I was doing press the F5 key and the escape keys together most of the time it will load the page but then quit before the wall loads|1 Its crazy to just wait for it to start showing up in a widespread fashion in which case it will be too late to realistically do something about it We should be closing schools now and just saying lets wait a couple of weeks and see what happens|0 Yeah right The only thing he does is go up there and suck Trumps dick because thats what he has to do to survive politically Hes hands off and lets the experts do what they know how to do|0 These are what we call idiots I love spending time with my kids I made them theyre pretty fantastic My favourite people If your kids are annoying to be around its because you made them that way Shitty people make shitty kids|1 This is what people dont understand about being a CEO You are literally and directly responsible for thousands of people and one fuck up can costs thousands of jobs|0 Sad but true|1 Thats because America Trillions for bullets Zero for the health and welfare of their peopleThe wealthy dont understand some basics If the majority of the population is sick the people they depend on to be wealthy wont be there And their wealth will dry up|1 You also need to account for things like underlying conditions like obesity poor health suppressed immune system whether they smoke high blood pressure ect the younger people that had intense cases usually had one of the above or a combination|1 Wow you would think after Mardi Gras with people coming to NOLA from all over that there would be more testing|1 It likely wouldnt spread as quick in that event Source I played Plague once|1 A bunch of stores here closing in Canada and sending emails notifying the public they will pay their employees Ex Hudsons Bay Victoria Secret Bath Body Works Calvin Klein Club Monaco etc|0 Should we petition the lobbying oligarchsAnd in the future maybe vote to shrink the governments power so the lobbying oligarchs have less power|0 Anyone infected either died or didnt get tested|0 If they took it seriously they would close the schools|0 Itd be cool if the tests were more readily available to healthcare professionals here in the US if they took less time to run and consistently reported status of infection|1 Dirty country Wtf I dont know exactly what country you are talking about but that doesnt even matter|0 Badass thank you|1 This is kinda scary|0 I can confirm Heard from my neighbour that some younglings will go to the shopping mall on Monday because schools are closed To be fair its not only the ignorance of the youngs also the parents here do not really care Sad|1 Same Really really sucks to have to figure out rescheduling everything Good luck to you and your partner and hopefully were out of this mess by then|1 You are nuts man the whole world doesnt fit into your dem vs repub mind Couldnt care less for either too many people like you that make everything a Us vs Them|0 Probably the elderly or people who are sick They deliver food so they dont have to go out|0 You mean exactly what you just did to the OPNow youre crying because someone made assumptions about YOU and the lack of what youre doing Are you that fucking oblivious You just ASSUMED what shes doing and demanded that she do more Take your own advice Fucking hypocrite|0 Bad comparison as we have way healthier people Belgium still doesnt have a government FTFY|0 Alright team hands up whos going to volunteer to go deliver them|1 That is an interesting comparisonEdit I think until and unless we see that number of dead in the US many folks in our country are not going to accept that this is a risk|0 its not like you just exhale the virus the viruss mode of transportation is droplets which are not submicron|0 Your masks means nothing if the society breaks downYou are implying masks is the only supply being prepared|1 So he should stay in the southHe is currently safe because he lives in Germany since a few yearshe lived in South Italy for over 45years and he told several times that some of the clinics there reminds him of stuff he has seen in 3rd world countries There are apparently clinics which only have 2 or 3 working respirators which could be used for corona cases If there are dozens or hundreds of severe cases then a lot of people will dieThe North of Italy is miles ahead and if people in the South get desperate they will try their luck in the North|1 its not like just free money to split up amongst everyone whether you were quarantined or lost work or not jesus its not just a quick payout to everyone in the country|0 Like most Chinese I was quarantined at home for a month Therefore the number of infections other than Hubei is smallx200BhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfd9jinexperienceinchinaistayedathomeforamonthhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfd9jinexperienceinchinaistayedathomeforamonth|1 Goodluck Shit will hit the fan anytime now in mexico Most likely starting in tourist cities since mexico isnt implementing any precautions|0 How did you come up with 70 million infected|0 This is extremely serious if accurate You dont have a great quality or length of life with lung scarring|0 Noone going to work sick is the alternative|0 Oh god thats awful to hear I pray the best for all the ppl in the US and Everywherehonestly this crisis was brought to ppl by goverments all around the world and now it is up ppl to defeat it|0 Think he was being sarcastic|0 Haha for once Im happy to be downvoted so much|1 In practice and in a perfect world thats great but it would be way too exploitable|1 dont care didnt ask plus even with the flag you should still be able to buy them|0 People learn to drive cars and operate cell phones both of which are far more complicated Imagine if national leaders told people to stop driving and stop using phones because it was too much for them to learn how to do|0 I understand it but putting no urgency in this now means that it will just be spreading People are also only being as careful as the government says which is worrying for eg my workplace is still going on with meetings and all|0 I have a decent stash a couple cases of Heineken and some liquor so I am ready It works for hurricane season too|1 There is no perfect blanket advice because the symptoms you develop may vary Having said that you will need something to help control the fever that is very likely to manifest Fevers are no joke and should be watched closely Ibuprofen is my go to but anything with Acetaminophen like Tylenol can help too Stay hydrated I can not stress how important this is Drinks with electrolytes can help stay on top of that but you need to drink plenty of water It doesnt need to be bottled but if youre worried about tap water google the different kinds of filters you can use Eating is important too It may sound obvious but when youre sick its very easy to forget or flat out not want to eat Your body needs fuel to fight with so give it what it needs Despite your best efforts your friend may hit a point where a professional is needed If it gets to that point please seek help Fear of debt is not worth dying over Good luck|1 The monty python sketch is pretty memonic too but perhaps before your time|1 A German guy here My university has closed but we still have to do our exams and they dont want to close schools here|0 And the people stocking grocery store shelves could be sick too|0 Who remembers way back before the swappening with rchinaflu when this sub was the conspiracy one and everyone thought only Asians were affected by COVID19|0 No Except Iran|0 Sure its about me But I also know Ill die one day and life will be about me less and less People will forget me and go on with their own storiesThats okay All I want is to comfort the people in the now Hopefully that will help others in the future and my influence can spread beyond meIts okay The world will go on and you get to enjoy s small portion of itWe all die in the end There are more ends after our ends Thats what makes us alive|1 Youre surely right that people are overstating radiation risks in generalBut can we agree that the radiation fallout from Chernobyl was on a different level than that of Fukushima|1 What kind of evidence is there for the use of Arbidol against COVID19 Are there any benefits over the seemingly more proven Tamiflu|1 Screening at airports probably isnt too helpful anyways Asymptomatic infected people will get a false negative screening result right So self quarantine is the best we can do And of course these self quarantined people will not all follow the rules they will go line up to buy toilet paper|0 This is backwards the federal government should rely on the states to survive not the states relying on the federal government Especially a rich state like NY|1 Thank you for updating Please stay safe|1 You may be right I think there is an acceptance that transmission will occur but to manage it so that the peak is drawn out I am no expert but it seems a pragmatic approach What is the alternative|0 The study used is not peer reviewed and it was pointed out that a nebulizer may not be an ideal analogue to a human coughing and perfect lab conditions do not mimic the real world The bus transmission could be accounted for by someone who was asymptomatic You cannot prove that it remains suspended as an aerosol through anecdotal evidence from a bus ride before China had instituted safety precautions I am not saying that it cannot exist as an aerosol but coming to an absolute conclusion that it can remain suspended in the air for hours using a non peer reviewed study and an anecdote is reckless and could cause more panic and hording behaviors So many studies are coming out so quickly that they must be looked at with a critical eye The reason they are making that suggestion for medical personal is because a nebulizer is similar to spray that may occur during intubation not normal everyday circumstances Is it possible for the virus to be suspended as an aerosol probably is it the main way it will spread throughout the public no|0 Call your government Call your local Congresspeople and Senator Ask what they are doing Ask about emergency research funding bills to find treatments and vaccines They actually care about calls in that a staff person keeps track of the total number of phone calls on each subject so if enough people do it it makes a differenceEven if they think its 90 chance of being perfectly fine put some plans in place and get some research going for the 10|1 When i accurately point out that the average person is too stupid to handle this i get downvoted Its just a fact though the vast majority of people are emotional and not rational|0 I believe it I texted with someone this morning who just came back from Australia he said there was zero screening on the US side coming in No one so much as took a temperature or asked any questions|0 I collect tauI dont know sobbing |1 Please tell me this is s Its getting hard to tell these days|1 From us but not from the rich|0 So Irs around 15 of being put in icu 15 Thats fucking high holy shit Im 24|0 Id like to see it broken down to male smokers and male nonsmokers for exampleI would assume that age might play a big role How many people in their 60 70 and 80 are smokers compared to the general population|1 Yes Materials are getting harder and harder to supply Analysts at my job are talking about how if we dont get certain materials moving through the supply chain we may not be selling much this year Manufacturers wont be able to keep up|1 Tbf I only know one guy that does it but its my favourite example of why being specific is good practise|1 you may want to check that|1 And they say China is lying Haha|0 I earn that much and have slept 2 hours a night the last two weeks Im working TIRELESSLY trying to fight everyone to stop the spread We have to do this together every single one of us Money doesnt matter Human lives do We all have to band the fuck together and do it now|0 People who take interest in this disease spreading out as much as possiblePeople Or are itXFiles music plays|1 I thought it was his press secretary Could be wrong though too much happening|0 Thanks but this isnt the best time sneak peak bot|0 Not gonna lie I did buy 10 cases of water and a few other things Tho it was split 5 different ways for families that couldnt afford to get much at all O gotta help peeps in need|1 Thats good|1 PBSW is a reference to something very specific is the D19 stand mutation and is not symmetric of PBS and yes there are thousands of anomalies between them But in each stand we can see 1 thing that has changed for the worse as mutated intentionally But I am asking those who posted this in reference to the knowledge they actually have or if they are pulling information from everywhere and plagiarizing the hell out of the information to seem like they know what they are talking about Harvard has done it before|0 Yes theres a first case from Tillburg from yesterday I think|1 You feeling ok mate|1 We do have our issues But when you combine the imprisonments of the Uighurs withe NO press freedoms NO freedom of assembly NO religious freedoms etc then I fail to see our issues as morally equivalent|0 Yeah we got one last night|1 USG only spends about 12rd of the Federal budget on the immediate govt healthcare related things and its citizens14 is the bankrupt Social Security ponzi scheme which also encompasses SSDI and other forms of welfare it was never designed for14 is interest on debts which will never be paid and the DoD budget to go blow up the world14 on HHS which is a lot of things including Medicare but also Obamacare Medicaid and various other housinghealth programs14 everything elsehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFileFederalRevenueandSpendingpng|1 Thailand is still a beautiful country with rich history and a beautiful people|1 Agreed The vast majority are literally not experts in any relevant field Just look at the signatoriesThey have PhDs in theoretical particle physics and aeronauticsThey are lecturers in mathematics and chemistryThey are professors in astronomy and data scienceThey are students in computer science and in condensed matter physicsWhat an absolute fucking farceI dont know if our governments strategy is the correct one I have my own reservations But this desperate appeal to irrelevant authorities is ridiculousTo be clear I fully support these individuals voicing their concerns it is absolutely their right to do so and for all I know they may be right But I cant stand the panicked mobs here on this subreddit parading this letter around as if it has more weight than the UKs Chief Medical Officers advising the government|1 The scary word might fix the problem democratic socialism |0 Didnt he cut the very program at the CDC that would have prepared us for whats happeningOf course facts dont matter to the moronsIf anything I think that this among the fact he has only a couple good hours a day now means he will barely be able to make it to the electionHave you seen him speak lately|1 R0 cannot just be multiplied to estimate infected peopleI appreciate your concern I didnt multiple R0 The R0 numbers I used are documented I merely compared the size of one to the other and came up with a factor of 175 then multiplied that to the number of people infected with the flu There have been two other people in various threads Ive been in that have brought up your concern as well However like the other two people to point out that Im not using R0 properly you havent described how to use R0 properly So I will ask you as I have asked them Maybe I can get an answer this time How does one use R0 properly to more accurately paint the picture that I want to paint I dont care if the numbers are lower or higher Im not trying to fear monger here I just want to paint an accurate picture You obviously imply you know how to use R0 properly Please help me use R0 properly And the estimated mortality rate for Covid19 heavily depends on the quality of the testingI used two numbers neither is the lowest nor the highest Both are documented in wikipedia And all of that is why you come up with vastly ludicrous numbersI appreciate your criticism Please help me paint an accurate picture|1 Ohioan here they just did they here Im hoping that helps|1 been here since January and I can tell you I dont know anymore if its healthy or not I was worried it would be a pandemic but I was optimistic the governments worldwide would response quickly Then I got worried because they havent responded quickly but I was optimistic that things would still eventually get wrestled under control into a lockdown Now I am worried because I still dont see things are truly going into lockdown but I want to be optimistic we wont see society itself collapse into anarchy and chaosThe thing is after what Ive seen so far why would I be optimistic anymore that we wont see society collapse into anarchy and chaos If anything everything suggests that it will now Im just in denialFuck this timeline|1 Jesus christ the beginning of that headline scared the fuck out of me|0 Lots of naive people out there|0 lmao requesting facts is fine and I agree we need people talking about facts but you dont have to be so condescending when requesting it you come off like a bit of a dickhead hence the downvotes|1 Isnt it always normal procedure for school teachers to make sure the kids wash their hands thoroughly before lunchIts always been the case where my kids went to school whatever its been in Denmark or in China|1 Do not worry this isnt my only account|1 Is this as serious as the Spanish flu|0 Find a 100 year old man tell him he has the flu 2 weeks later parade him out and say he was cured|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 The WHO have now started pressuring China instead of telling them theyve done a good job and sucking them off|1 Source on Rudy feeling symptoms 2 days prior to his positive test I havent seen that reportedCDC says symptoms can appear 214 days after exposure httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovsymptomstestingsymptomshtmlthe low end of that fits the potential timeline where Rudy got the virus from the child|1 This I cannot believe why someone deleted my post about it It is just statistically impossible that they have those outrageously false numbers Chinas gonna have at least 400500k deaths and half the population infected at least only quarantining 40million persons You know how to count right so thats what is being optimistic|0 IN Most people seem to think its no big deal Because they are idiots|0 Are you talking about cash for clunkers or my ck for 300 dollars from Mr Obama I wish that he could step in and be president for a while|1 Yea that makes tons of sense Oh but the country that has the most knowledge of anyone about this virus is arresting people that dont wear masks Think about this China can produce more masks than any country on earth and their citizens still spent billions of dollars basically depleting the worlds supply of available masks and having them shipped to ChinaThe US is spreading this message now because masks are out of stock virtually everywhere and all new supply is being sold to the government not to retailers So no sense having people panic that they cant find masks and might get sick Better to tell them they dont need them anywayWeeks ago the story was wearing a mask made you touch your face lessRegardless if the virus got on your mask and you got infected by using the mask improperly you 100 would have got the virus without the mask Not to mention that it reduces your chances of spreading the virus if you have it|0 Is anyone in quarantine in the United States No Are there empty grocery stores in the United States Know Is anyone starving in the United States No Does Washington still have to go to their jobs YesWell you scored 1 out of 4 Congratulations Washington State still has jobs On the other hand hundreds are under selfquarantine the are empty shelves everywhere just got back from a halffull CostCo in Nevada and of course there are people starving in the United States We have a horrific amount of impoverished and homeless families and people How ignorant are you to the world|1 nah i dont respect this kid free healthcare for all|1 Thats exactly the wrong thing to do We need proper clinical trials Thats not how any of this works|0 Already doing it to protect my child I only take him to open spaces with very few people Otherwise we are at home|1 Fucking eczema is an underlying health condition A significant one at that psoriasis and eczema are these conditions Anything AT ALL to do with your immune system is a risk factor Minor psoriasis can evidently increase your risk of severe pneumonia by like 50|1 Uhhh Really Can I get some more info cause this person sounds like a proper idiot How does that though process work Do they just go Hmmm the whole country is on lockdown dealing with a deadly pandemic perfect time to get a cheap hotel Like what|1 Thank you Andrew Cuomo Please let the rest of the country start taking this more seriously|1 Yes I will update on her conditionShes in a town near Wuhan thats been locked down|1 As far as I know not many Most arent testing unless you haven been out of the country How are things in Italy I have a friend stuck there and I cant get a hold of her Happy Cake Day|1 The current crisis really highlights how so many Americans have little to nothing in savings For some the Their culture of conspicuous consumption is coming home to roostEdit added the words in italics for clarity|0 I 100 believe this reference flew way over his head He needs better handlers|1 I like to consider myself pretty open minded Id like to hear this one too|1 When it affects Trump thats when hell take it seriouslytill then US citizens are just numbersto him sorry folksyour being screwed by the POTUSjust like Stormy Daniels |0 Nah we separate our finances I I buy whatever I wanted with my hard earned money For years i bought nothing at all just saving investing paying of debts and living expenses|0 can anyone Make you stay homeThanks for the clarification on your question I am not a lawyer or doctor but my understanding as a casual constitutionalist who has read up a bit on the topic is probably not automatically in the US under current law If a person was definitely a clear danger to the general populace and themselves then a medical doctor would strongly encourage that person to remain under medical care for their own good and everyone elses If that person declined and tried to check themselves out of the hospital it starts to depend on the doctors discretion The doctor could call the police and tell them they want to hold under medical supervision on a 5150 mental illness because arguably theyd be trying to do something pretty crazy and declining medical care in this scenario would clearly be endangering themselves too However depending on the state involuntary 5150s are limited at something between 2472 hours At that point if the person gets a lawyer to file an emergency petition with a judge the person will get a judge to look at the situation and make a preliminary ruling on whether they can constitutionally be detained further Most judges are probably going to weigh the opinion of licensed medical doctors pretty heavilyAnother variable is what health regulations the relevant state andor county has on the books A lot of counties have some kind of public health agency which often has some kind of authority to act in the interest of public safety Whatever policy it is will still ultimately have to pass constitutional muster by the judiciary The doctors andor public health agency will still need to present clear evidence to support their position Im not sure the evidence surrounding Coronavirus as it stands at this moment would pass a strong constitutional challenge to justify continued longterm involuntary incarceration Then again most judges would probably grant a preliminary injunction to prevent irreparable harm while the court figures it out With an apparent incubation period of 14 days itll be a moot point by the time it gets to a rulingAs for what happens in the hospital hallway judges tend to grant law enforcement a fair amount of post hoc leeway in situations where they have to improvise something on the spur of the moment under difficult and uncertain circumstances as long as the officer is trying to do the right thing Keep in mind that in the US a doctor still cant universally force a parent to vaccinate a child for smallpox which is contagious and tends to be more lethal than Coronavirus However that doctor can inform the public health authorities school district etc and the school district will probably not let an unvaccinated child around other kids|1 Yes we should I think we will inevitably|1 Obama dealing with a recession and the ongoing war Trump dealing with the growth of coming out of a recession and his big mouth|0 There was one story with respect to it Trump said something about helping people The cost will drop once we actually have test kits that work|1 OMG those students and staff are definitely in danger Fingers crossed for them|0 Meanwhile in France governement asking to literally dont wear mask unless you are sick |0 I do think that the person talking about rights being taken away in the name of safety does have a point Every time there is a terror attack or similar then new powers are introduced that are for our own good Boris has already said that emergency powers will be declared if necessary The drive through swab centres for example would be a gift for the police if they were to have access to that database somehow|0 Hello there fellow Zhejiang expatredditorEdit geez I meant fellow Fuck me|0 You need a better job andor better skills|1 On news conference today California is watching 9400 people Not sure how many have been tested Probably not enough|0 Youre not reading what I wrote There have been loads of articles saying kids are spared from this virus with only mild symptoms so I was surprised to see a critical case He pulled through but others may not be so lucky Especially if were potentially gonna be talking about thousands and millions of cases and that this virus has only been around for about 2 months total|1 Im going to Disney next week Were both healthy adultsMy condolences to your family friends coworkers and other contacts|1 Every time I see somebody saying that we need to take measures to get things back to normal as quickly as possible I want to tear my hair out|1 You stay safe too Wash those hands|1 Youve only got 40 cases That is really smart to do it know and wait how things go Wow Saving probably hundreds if not thousands of lifes|1 give this guy a medal|1 Nope no confusion I was responding to ubodement about the Brazilian president Initial report was a positive test result Few minutes later that changed to reports it was negative|1 My pets are far more beautiful creatures than most humans|1 Unfortunately true I have no idea who that is|0 Yep its not the best article going around Good luck finding reliable information out of communist China|1 Inslees doing the best he can First state to get cases and the Federal govt wasnt prepared to help us at all Its spread a shitload but at least he isnt denying anything|1 Why dont all or most tech companies do this I know not every job and every company has the ability to support work from home options but if they have the ability to do so they should At the very least it keeps employees safe and its less of a chance of spreading the disease since it reduces commuters|1 They will China will get reinfected but not necessarily in Wuhan They need the people that fought so long and won to rest so they are ready to go at it again when the time is needed where they are needed|1 China is not a communist country or even a socialist country now Her main economic system form is capitalism But some of the political heritage left by the past socialist history is still preserved to todays China and it has had a beneficial impact on this country and its showed during this fight against epidemic For example emergency mobilization of nation wide medical forces and volunteers to support Hubei such as calling on people to fight the epidemic to protect peoples living right the most basic human right such as free treatment of all infected people which cannot be achieved without the concerted efforts of the party and the peopleSocialism does not mean depriving people of their personal freedom but means that each person can bear his own social responsibility to make this society better and protect the interests of the majority of the people|1 Let me be clearChina sucksUSA sucksBoth cut massive corners during constructionYour and youre mean very different things|0 Infected without symptoms thats just downright scary The numbers must be far higher than those being reported|0 Youre right Gotta always have hope even if every fiber in my being is telling me we are fucked Thanks for that reminder|1 It would be covered as off label use of a drug shown to have efficacy in these patientsIt obviously wouldnt be used for any patients other than those critically ill It has severe side effect potential as well so you wouldnt really want it unless you had a severe case|0 The movie about this is going to be scary shit|0 Death Rate 140|0 even if it means the economy takes a big hiteconomy will take a hit anyway it already hasbetter to have healthy people that can rebuild a hit economy|1 Report them This isnt allowed on eBay or Amazon|1 A Japanese infectious disease specialist from a university hospital who recently boarded said the control measures were completely inadequate with no distinction between red and green zones noticing lots of exposure failure points|0 If only they could hear or read the content of supplements herbs and food expressed in IUPAC terms Honey alone could fill a paragraph|0 I think you should consider traveling around Eastern Europe once this virus threat settles down Youll be surprised just how uneventful in terms of dangerousweird encounters those places actually are compared to what youve been imagining before Maybe things are different if youre a political activist but nonetheless were talking about a normal persons perspectiveI am from eastern europe I was born in the soviet union altrough my country has regained its independence since There is no need to imagine things here because i spent most of my life including currently in eastern europe Mind you Russia is very different from other soviet bloc countries in there|0 This guy is exhausting|0 When all is finished I hope this kind of people will be put to trial for manslaughter|1 The problem is Americans nowadays arent accustomed to making personal sacrifices for the collective interests of the greater good From looking at cruise groups theres a significant number of people who go into an apoplectic rage if its suggested that someone should do anything for the greater good|1 You need to be more respectful|1 I just found out a lady on my aisle I work with was in Thailand for 3 weeks including lunar new year Me and the guy across from me have bad colds going through our houses I remember her being out for a bit not sure when she got back Obviously none of this means I have coronavirus but youd be surprised how many people have a 3rd degree connection back to China in every area of the US Her hotel in Bangkok was in Chinatown too she was in Bangkok for lunar new year in the middle of Chinatown She said the cab couldnt even get to the hotelAgain none of this means I have coronavirus but what do you expect people to do Just test anyone who knows someone who was traveling in January Thats a huge undertaking on its own before even wading into containment I dont even know how to get tested Truly if I wanted to I dont think I could|1 This doesnt seem like a problem to me Just have one and enjoy it Your supply will last longer|1 Oh thank GOD the greatest virologist of that country spoke|1 Contact the mediaNext time audio record that BS Stay safe |1 They could just pass out homeopathic remedies Complete nonsense but it makes people feel like they are doing something|1 I consider millions of deaths to be bad|0 People love to shit on US leaders but is this not basically the same as every country on the subject right now The US just formalized it publicly|1 Thx|1 This is insane|0 Its your narrative thats false It come from those stupid journalists They believe freedom of information cures all because they make a living on it This epidemic just wasnt humanly possible to be stopped at Wuhan without knowledge on the virus or PCR test Public awareness worth absolutely nothing in that situation at that moment|1 Most plans available to lower middle class still have very high deductibles A catastrophe plan could still cost you around 300400 A month depending on your income and still have a 10000 deductible The rationale being that at least you wont be put into hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt from your hospital stay But pretty much makes general healthcare for things like the flu unattainable|0 Very much appreciated Professor|1 Yes|1 Well hang on The government was planning a mitigate strategy and spent a month spreading disinformation rather than accurately informing people If youve been hearing it just like mild flu and just wash your hands and not self educating you wont think its a big deal On top of this we have had bullshit apocalyptic predictions before Brexit WWIII with Iran and N Korea Its understandable why people dont care and a product of our awful leaders|0 When I first began my law practice many many years ago I would recite this under my breath while walking to court It was remarkably effective at relieving my terror|1 Wait what If youre working from home they have to pay you because it still qualifies as work|0 Edit Mistaken thought it was American Congress Ive been wondering if this virus can get so bad as to cause as shift in voting patterns If half of Congress was exposed it was likely the republican half Will it result in any political deathsAnd if this is affecting older people by an order of magnitude there may be enough elderly who are either too sick to vote or have passed away We know the overwhelming majority of elderly people are conservative and that they vote with consistency|0 This is what i did with my hypochondriasis in CPT and it helped immensely Now to actually apply it in real life lol|1 I like ZephyrhillsDo they sell that where you are in China|1 And bullshit gets the presidency|0 Id argue that if this so called being created us and the entire universe then it deserves to be revered and acknowledged in some way Perhaps theres a reason beyond our comprehension why there is so much suffering in the world perhaps it is all a test who knows Some believe that God does help those who are worthy we dont know the criteria that God may judge us with perhaps it seems inhumane to us but by the laws that govern this universe it makes complete sense Its entirely an abstract concept and maybe human morality doesnt hold weight in the grand scheme of things How can we argue with the being that created everythingIm an agnostic I dont believe one way or another just my two cents|1 I couldnt work with 103 fever and pneumonia and wouldnt And if my boss tried to force me in what Id tell him would make his ears bleed I like my job but I was looking for a job when I found that one and Im NOBODIES slave|1 You are an imbecile Do you realize that You CLEARLY do not understand what communism is What part of it confuses you Is it the part where THERE IS NO FUCKING DICTATOR Or is it the part where THERE IS NO FUCKING DICTATOR WHAT THE HELL WAS MAO What the HELL IS XI What the hell IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA DICTATOR IS SOMEONE WHO HAS ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY A DEMIGOD IN THEIR SOCIETY SOMEONE WHO HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY TO ANYONE ELSENow where in the fuck in communism does it say that dictators are allowed Please teach me oh masterful geniusYou seem to think that if someone says they are X that they ABSOLUTELY have to be XYou fail to realize that CCP is a dictatorshipauthoritarian JUST as much as the US is They are both capitalistic slavery tooWhat is a democracy IT IS FUCKING COMMUNISMYou seem to get confused easily by big words and their precise definitions not being able to understand the actual structural meaningI WILL SPELL IT OUT TO YOUDEMOCRACY A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state typically through elected representativesCapitalism an economic and political system in which a countrys trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit selfinterests rather than by the state or collectiveCommunism a political theory derived from Karl Marx advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs Socialism a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production distribution and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a wholeCapitalism Slavery Owned by the few the masters the plantation owners the CEOs the Pharaohs the kings the lords dictators eliteSocialsm Democracy Communism The exact opposite of the above owned by everyone No one is above anyone elseYou can pretend all of them are different all you want You can play that game and confuse yourself all you want Its not my fault you cant understand that a rose is a rose by any other name The minor specific shit that makes them different IS IRRELEVANT There is two binary opposites in governments FREEDOM AND SLAVERY EVERY FORM OF GOVERNMENT FALLS SOMEWHERE ON THE SPECTRUMCommunism does not fall within slavery Slavery requires a master NO WHERE did Marx say slaves were part of his system in fact his system was created in DIRECT opposition to capitalismNOW EITHER CAPITALISM SLAVERY OR CAPITALISM FREEDOM COMMUNISM is the EXACT oppositeYou want to claim that capitalism is freedomSee your problem is that you are easily confused by the smoke screen Its not my fault you have been so easily brainwashedYou can make a claim that some slavery is good and that is a totally different argument but Capitalism says it is slavery right in the fucking definitionCapitalism an economic and political system in which a countrys trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit selfinterests rather than by the state or collectiveWho the fuck are these private owners Oh yeah just private owners Are you so clueless that you are confused by relabling things Here let me rewrite it so it makes sense to youCapitalism an economic and political system in which a countrys trade and industry are controlled by the master for profit selfinterests rather than by the people or collectiveYou really think that slavery in the US went away after emancipation You think all the masters just said Ok we lost you win we will disappear You are an absolute imbecile and it is people like you that have helped destroy humanity with your stupidity and protecting the very people who have caused almost all the problems since the dawn of time|0 Sorry I didnt phrase that very well I think what they are saying is that Italy acted too late And they only isolated people who tested positive If you think about it the UK is doing lockdown but of ALL ill people which makes a lot of sense I know its voluntary but Im fairly sure they will have modelled the expected response to that using the worlds best epidemiologists and behavioural scientists Its a nuanced approach and I can see the reasoning behind it Anyway stronger measures are undoubtedly in the pipeline and will help flatten the curve|1 Comparing to regular flu is stupid because of a vastly different infection numbers Unless you get data from when regular flu first started god knows how many years ago|0 Mate if the camera zoomed out a bit more youd see a messy puddle forming underneath him|0 Apparently they will be asked to pay per guardianThere are 230 seat on each plane there will be medical staff onboard so capacity will be less than that|0 Dont talk out of your ass You are saying 700k per day with 150k cases means you think out of 250k people 150k are infected Is that the case in Shanghai Beijing or other foreign state Is that the kind of data we have Dont talks out of your ass|0 I saw a changeorghttpschangeorg petition to cancel SXSW about 2 days before it was officially cancelled|0 Preemtive measures was showned to work during the Spanish Flue Lets hope it will again|1 No not stupidCalculatedI dont like it but the truth is it will be as bad as it will be but feeding widespread panic isnt a great option|0 Canned tomatoes chickpeas and beans are okay You can make chili|1 Hope mexican summer heat 48 kills it because oh boi it will kill me for sure|0 I hate to be a downer but its all up and down the West coast right now Its worse there than in Florida Youre most likely just going to catch it at home anyway in the next couple months|0 NO SHITYOU DONT SAY|0 Man their work has to be hard|0 Ive seen this movie Doesnt end well|0 Your commenthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfeupgdihopeeveryonerealizesthereasonthecdcandfjswtmxcontext3 was automatically removed for potential offtopic political discussion A mod team member has been notified to review the post for approval I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 What kind of effect will the virus have on a premature newborn I just had a son born and he may be getting out of the NICU soon should we do everything in our power to keep him tucked away at home I work in law enforcement and come in close contact with people every day Do I need to heavily limit my contact with him If I get sick should I stay in a hotel or something I know thats incredibly specific but I am worried for my child He did not have any respiratory issues other than just being born early at 32 weeks he is perfectly healthy|1 Good grief|0 That page is pretty bad actually with lots of misleading information Children arent a risk factor they are generally not affected much by corona viruses The main risk is their unhygienic practices giving others the disease Implies that masks will add a lot if protection on public transport etc when it really wont Issue is droplet transmission on your hands face not air Raw meat being a concern outside China|1 Imagine your government testing a theory on your elderly population Great strategy|1 Orange man have everything handled Italys Healthcare is very very badin fact its the worst The US has the very best healthcare in the world Nothing to worry about Buy stockss|1 I am going to watch the early prelim prelims and entire main card to give me a nice 6hour distraction from the newsAdesanya is insane but Yoel is a freak of nature Izzy is crazy to call him out should be an amazing fight|0 Edit Apparently there is a facebook post from a close friend who says the news report has been sensationalised and several facts changed to garner more attention Apparently the husband had shown no symptoms on entering India and was diagnosed only after the wife had reached Agra to meet her family there is a tradition in some families for the bride to visit her family on the first Holi after marriage and that the family was arguing about the unsanitary quarantine facility and not about the act of quarantining itselfOPLanded in Mumbai flew to Bangalore then flew to Delhi and took a train to Agra Ticked all the boxes major cities and all types of transportation shes like a newly married wanderlusting grim reaper|0 Were just another organism like an algea bloom that has consumed its food source Nature cullsI think when to economize means monetary wealth over people were doing it wrong Its just a desperate denialist attempt to delay the inevitable What we think we have even the notion of having is illusory There is no holding on to what isnt there The question is are we willing to confront this in order to create something new or do we really truly just want the comfort of the false narrativePart of the problem is that capitalism displaces the costs of behavior both temporally and geographically As this economy experiences its last agonal breaths the ability to displace these costs is removed from us Its a game of musical chairs and the music has stopped This puts pressure in particular sectors and regions As an example we may find that certain areas maybe entire cities maybe cities in general are totally and utterly unsustainable The resources required to support us and the systems necessary to acquire them may no longer be available to usSo I think really we need to first accept and go through the grieving process of loss of our current way of life our comforts and illusion of security in large part our very identity Then we need to embrace community and help to make our lives as they are right now something worth experiencing|1 For just being sick or can you use if your childs school closed and you have no child care services available|0 I hope people are stockpiling antihistamines as well to help with that chloroquine itch|1 Lies Youre just so desperate to be right But you havent been right about anything yet have you|0 I try with the ELI5 Aerosol basically means very small droplets of liquid infused with the virus suspended in air Smaller is the droplet larger is the possibility that this droplet is carried around by the air movement and so more time is required for the droplet to settle down Wind air motion has a clear effect on the spreading|0 Spots on the throat could be strep or mono I am sure there are other diagnoses too but I had both of those and that was a symptom|1 East Asian age reckoningEast Asian age reckoning originated in China and continues in limited use there along with Tibet and Japan but is still common in Korea People are born at the age of one ie the first year of lifetime using an ordinal number instead of zero using a cardinal number and on Chinese New Year or New Years Day one year is added to their age Since age is incremented at the beginning of the lunar or solar year rather than on the anniversary of a birthday people may be one or two years older in Asian reckoning than in the international age system PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrCoronavirusaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 There is no way ChinaIranUS are reporting their real numbers|0 Oh nice going to read|1 Its recommended selfimposed quarantine so its voluntary|1 Pretty sure everyone needs to come up with long term solution because this virus isnt going anywhere anytime soon let alone 2 weeks|1 Also our healthcare sucks I never said it didntSo I thought your posts were a misguided effort to try to defend our healthcare system Apparently theyre not So then whats your goal here Are you literally just rubbing it in that other people are sick because youre upset that other countries criticize our terrible healthcare system That says a lot about you|0 Yes that was basically my point We have way too many people in this country who have no sick leave We have to change that If a company legitimately cant provide sick leave or someone works independently we have to have some sort of safety net for those people Many other countries seem to do this in some fashion and at a minimum we need something that covers people during a pandemic or disease outbreak Preferably wed have something that people can always fall back on should they become injured or sick If anything good comes out of this current pandemic it will be a more prominent dialogue around this issue I think people are finally starting to realize just how many Americans have no ability to take leave when sick|0 Dont be so dumbThats impossible for people like OP theyre born this way |1 This I was freaking out when I saw a headline about a 21yearold soccer coach dying in Spain Then later I read another story about him and turns out he had undiagnosed leukemia Which dont get me wrong sucks so much for him and everyone who loves him and is a huge tragedy but its also not a case of a healthy young person just dying|0 Its really unbelievable they let this happen|1 This entire sub is cynical Im always grateful when I see the good news flair|1 I mean if you paid attention to the CCP response like quarantining half the country and locking down wuhan you would be kinda retarded to think its easy to contain|1 Hes tryna get those of us not infected to MARS right now|1 There are multiple Wuhan evacuees that are infectedAnd the symptoms of the nonAsians Any report at all about being severe or critical No Yea thats what Im saying Ive been following this thing for weeks and cant find a single one neither Almost as if theres a patternThere are already several cases in various countries with NO known contact with China nor travellers from ChinaHeres a simple rule of thumb as you read the news Asian especially East Asian gets infected 20 chance hes going to fight for his life with assistance from the hospital NonAsian gets infected Most dont even realize it because they feel fine mild symptoms at most quarantined in hospital room quick recovery walks out like nothing happenedIf you find me even a single report that says otherwise Id love to hear it Otherwise were looking at a disease thats been spreading for months that hasnt even seriously affected any nonAsians If this virus broke out in the West they may not have even noticed it because its so benign|0 No sadly its true|0 Ive heard supposedly that Vitamin D can help with the inflammatory responses of the lungs and former smokers might be more resilient because their lungs have tar and excess mucus which makes it harder for the virus to bind to the cellsHow ironic would that be Smoke for 10 years and gain an immunity against a pandemic Lmao|1 This COVID19 has been said to create heart problems|0 but are there any peerreviewed ones Not yet and the ones i have seen will probably get rejected if the review panels are decent The approach to causal inference people seem to take in a crisis is really not great|0 Bardstown Its about 4560 mins from Lexington Dont panic just practice safe hygiene For the first time in a long time I feel like weve taken the right steps to get this under control in KY|1 Youre not understanding the situationI understand the situation better than you Furthermore that is over a 12 month period not all at once Start of the studied periodOn 30 December 2019 three bronchoalveolar lavage samples were collected from a patient with pneumonia of unknown etiology End of the studied periodAmong 55924 laboratory confirmed cases reported as of 20 February 2020Soeven less than 2 monthsthank you for bringing this to my attention20 requiring medical care doesnt necessarily mean staying in a hospital overnight let alone ICU so looking at only ICU beds isnt accurate Wrong In this case thats exactly what it means Of people infected with COVID19 virus 138 have severe disease dyspnea respiratory frequency 30minute blood oxygen saturation 93 PaO2FiO2 ratio 300 andor lung infiltrates 50 of the lung field within 2448 hours and 61 are critical respiratory failure septic shock andor multiple organ dysfunctionfailure Severe cases are defined as tachypnoea 30 breaths min or oxygen saturation 93 at rest or PaO2FIO2 300 mmHg Critical cases are defined as respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilation shock or other organ failure that requires intensive care About a quarter of severe and critical cases require mechanical ventilation while the remaining 75 require only oxygen supplementationAll of the above describes ARDShttpsfoundationchestnetorgpatienteducationresourcesacuterespiratorydistresssyndromeardsAnd ARDS is treated in the ICUARDS is a serious disorder of the lung which has the potential to cause death Patients with ARDS may require mechanical ventilation because of hypoxia18httpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK436002The management is usually in the ICU with an interprofessional healthcare teamhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovbooksNBK436002|0 Wow|1 Get some mental help Holy fuck you are messed up in the head|0 Of course we are We have the best doctors the best health care system we are the best Country in the world never mind the small number os tests God have mercy if I get sick I dont have idea where to go for help getting a test|1 Im asking how long do you expect it to take before number of infected patients is decreasing which indicates it is ok to loosen some of the restrictions we put in place to decrease the infection rate|0 The denominator isnt as important when the numerator destroys you on its own|0 You are a good man and correct First we help people stay aliveWe CAN make a fucking difference if everyone pulls their heads out of their bottoms and helps each other|1 Those are excellent deals thank you for making this post Ive just compared the prices youve posted here against the costs of the supplies we received this morning and every deal here where we bought a parallel item is superior My family has historically been quite privileged and therefore tended to shop from places like Ocado so Im definitely going to be combing the internet before adding things Tbh I thought we were getting some good deals with stuff like the Waitrose Essentials range and now I think maybe thats massively overpriced Ill be back when I do find some genuinely good deals I do have some food related tips to share howevernot specific deals but could be useful for people checking out this post1 Consider morale in an extended quarantine What would you need to keep your spirits up What would any kids in the family need Our prep includes lots of teabags and longlife sweet biscuits for a quick boost and ingredients to bake of course2 If eating monotonous food over an extended period what would make it more interesting Oil salt herbs spices vinegar soy sauce sweet chilli sauce mustard honey Buying condiments and seasonings can be really expensive but try to have at least a couple of your favourites 3 If your family differs in their level of commitment to preparing for a major Coronavirus outbreak consider storing some of the more desirable food items discreetly so they dont get eaten up too fast My partner and I are leading the prep effort in our household and are storing biscuits peanuts cereals and salty foods away from hungry eyes 4 Check out httpsezpreppingcomfoodstoragecalculator for a rough and ready guide to food storage quantities for your family size in a given period eg 2 weeks 4 weeks Some foods are unfamiliarAmerican but as a basic structure to help plan it can be useful|1 A couple daysThe difference between who cares and WHO cares|1 Thank you very much Really appreciate these kind of updates|1 There are many very thorough epidemiological models of this the CDC alone put out 4 models just today literally every epidemiologst in the world has run every possible variation of these calculations Did you think they forgot thatNo patients wont be simultaneous but they will be overlapping There will be a crunch point with most hospital cases bunched into a few months according to current forecasts If you do a full model draw out the curve factoring in current rate of spread 5 day incubation 11 d until symptoms get bad US hospital beds are maxed out about 34 weeks from now then it gets really really fierce about 8 weeks from nowWe can ramp up beds to some degree triage tents etc but we cant ramp up staff ventilators supplies as easily That means a lot of patients will get substandard care and that will elevate mortality rate Also using the best models by the worlds top professionals to try to prepare for a public health crisis is not panic porn|1 I wonder though why would the wuhan virus has exponential rate while swine flu and sars had linear line in the past|0 Fairly confident there is some context missing from this They would not have denied her a testAlso they would have isolated her straight away for going into ae with suspected Corona Thats a massive no no on her part and would not have been advised if she had called firstEdit wow to people down voting do you like spreading miss information|1 Yo CDC how about saying already happening but our tests are inaccurate so IDK|0 Anyone have luck with Whole Foods Amazon Fresh delivery Northern Virginia I have a delivery scheduled Tuesday at 9am just want to be realistic if itll even get here Should I cancel and just go brave the streets|1 Well if your colleagues have family in China and their family cant get their hands on any masks wouldnt you do the same|1 The CDC should never have had the monopoly in test development in the first place Who is responsible for that|1 Im not really sure if I should be worried My family says its fearmongering but most of Reddit is shouting apocalypse What is the correct course of action Should I be worried I work at a CVS which Im sure will be a hotbed of the infected if this thing blows up What can we do to stay safe|0 Hysteria is what will happen in 2 weeks if we do nothing|0 I agree At first I thought wow My area is a flu hotspot Then I clicked on a dot 1 person said they had a flu in my city within 7 days It would be great if this was something used by millions instead of hundreds|1 Holy shit that section on Iran sent a shiver down my spine I had absolutely no idea it was that bad People from a small remote town to the damn mayor have contracted it and yet the numbers have been entirely suppressed High mortality rate and religious customs such as kissing Damn|0 The government wants the virus to spread When will people understand this They want this epidemic over and done with as quickly as possible and that doesnt happen by reducing its spread They want it to burn through the British public like the great fire of London|1 My job can be done so easily from home ill probably have to work through the whole thing so basically that|1 Its from the fact that the numbers the Chinese are releaseing are not seeming accurate with what we know of thw virus The other thing is that BBC reporters went into a town that should be fully inhabited but was a ghost town and the military removed them That may not mean anything but its why your seeing people infer that number|0 My point was he doesnt actually think its made up His still idiotic when it comes to it but he doesnt think its not real which is what some people have been parading around|0 Strap in ladies and gents were in for some fun times over the next few months|1 It may not be about lack of resources but the time it takes for all the paperwork and bureaucracy to work itself out especially considering the glut of applications that are going to pour in|1 Do we have a source for that It is apocalyptic even beyond anything China did at least officiallyreported|0 I got better|1 That sounds like a really cute expo Im just imagining pangolins in straw hats with little farming tools|1 Thats only if you correctly file and get approved for FMLA I had to take FMLA because of an emergency surgery and I had to pay my doctor and extra fee for them to even sign the paper saying I had to be off work|0 My company just laid us all off Small Distributor with 6 or so employees were basiclly only doing emergency deliveries for some customers as the food service industry needs us still|0 This post was deleted in another group I am very ashamed that we have come to this We have to fight for democracy and freedom of speech|0 These tests are idiotic with the reliability of urine pregnancy test But worse Why are they taking these tests serious It could be a month or whatever until the viral load is high enough to be detected Come on|0 China kinda started this whole mess Its literally the least they could do|0 Woow whats real scary is to know that this shits still suppppppppppper low ratio still stands 16x the numbers|0 Oh it did my computer also I dont have an issue with globalism in general but in terms of governance and priorities it is pretty low on the listHence the reason I said globalism at all costs That may not even be the reason why they are covering this whole thing up|1 Its been reported to stay in the air for up to 3 hoursThe other dude linked to a good YT video with Dr Osterholm|1 Once we have the serological evidence of who was infected well know the answers Sadly we have lost valuable time in the US thanks to our failed leadership that continues to downplay this pandemic They are the ones you should be angry at|0 Take your brand new account somewhere elseUnless youve got something to say that this hitting London is absolutely fine|1 Most likely a ground glass opacity and a negative flu test in a younger person would be the sort of unusual clinical presentation that would cause a clinician to start thinking zebras instead of horses|0 And when youre done you can just sink them to create artificial reefs Even the environment wins|1 You are a pathetic political hack|0 If you like that wait till you see my post history I too am a big fan of Fibonacci|1 Most theyre forced to do is get a patient thatll die 99 outside of an actual miracle to help someone who can more likely to be saved which still is a very hard choice that fucks up the medical personnel that have to make to decision btw Only warzones are different but military doctors have separate training If we get to a point where there is one ventilator for two people who can both be saved and the hospital has to decide who lives and dies which is according to some reports whats happening in Italy thats a whole other ballpark Id trust the doctors and nurses to make the correct choice more than anyone too but its still a choice nobody should have to make|1 Tony Fauci has been the scientific and calm voice of reason for 2 decades I trust him|1 Gentle exercises are ok Depression will also lower your immune system and exercise can counteract depression|0 Same here in Maricopa County Luckily my daughter is walking around like everything is lava with germs but Im baffled that even a week ago my daughters teacher didnt even know if the school has even said anything about it Also we have 3 cases so maybe they should read up Spring break starts now and Ill be hard pressed to send her back afterwards|0 Its not just trump though Almost all of my friends are liberals NONE of them care about this At all They think its a crisis fabricated by the media Its wild to me that so few people are worried about this I suppose its like another commenter said a normalcy bias|0 One good thing is since we live in the digital age at least you guys have other things to do to keep you occupied WeChat lets you talk with dozens of other people Chinese government has allowed console gaming into your country so you guys can experience the same fun stuff most of us Westerners doKeep your heads up man Stay safeThat kinda humor is called gallowsdark humor Its a coping mechanism Perfectly understandable|1 My problem here is even though they didnt show symptoms when they landed they came back from the epicenter of the Corona virus The decent thing to do is wait for atleast 14 days before taking flights and trains Because of her negligence now many people may die I dont see how she is different from this guy who is banned for life from taking JetBlue flights httpswwwbusinessinsidercomjetbluebansmanwithcovid19fortellingcrewafterflight20203|0 One thing which is good news about this is that we are very likely to have MUCH MUCH better treatments for this virus in the next month or two Antivirals for a lot of viruses often take a while to show even slight signs of success this virus has shown that it reacts to quite a lot of antivirals right off the bat Its just a matter of time to find out which ones work best and what doses to administer them at Antivirals are more expensive compared to antibiotics or vaccines but can be mass produced if given enough time Then there are also nonantiviral treatments which can reduce symptoms by a large amount as well such as this one|1 So so so so many people still going to work and caring on like its break more than lakcdown Drastic actions have been enacted but enforced Eh|1 I think it can only be an error by a reporter Laughscries in American|0 You do it for as long as necessary this is unlikely to last longer than 69 months This is the main reason why fiscal responsibility vis a vis a balanced budget and little debt was important 20 years ago Everybody loves to spend for their priorities until the off chance something like this happens and we need to spend loads of cash Had we not been so stupid over the years we could easily throw a few trillion to get through this pandemic and still have half the debt we currently have|1 Lol it comes from tax payers obviously|1 Panic buying is when people max out their credit cards buying all the toilet paper in the county not regular shopping during a pandemic Responsible shopping would be steadily stocking up since January|1 Yeah I think they just want as many as possible to catch it at this point If actions really do speak louder than words anyways|1 We wouldnt know for sure his agenda It could be something fixed based on a paper idea he have something changing with the theories he have trolling andor powerdrunk I care more about the negative impacts than the reasons behind I agree most of all that its wrong to put lives at risk through censorship Its basically the first wrong step which China did censoring information and delaying action for 12 months which is likely a main contributory factor to this becoming an alreadynear pandemicAs for not putting China in a bad light it might fall into excessive moderation moderating excess or both the latter to reduce the noisetosignal ratio though arguably the voting mechanism can already serve to bubble up useful informationFor moderation standards it shouldnt be that each moderator have their own It should ideally be consistent As to the purpose of a sub who determines what should and shouldnt belong to it Is it the moderators Or the community If its the community with an influx of new users outnumbering the original base should the latter have the say by sheer democratic numbers or can the original group carve rules into stone which are not easy to modify Im just musing|0 Lol Im gonna steal that line |0 It went wacko before the Chinese bought 5About the same time everywhere went crazy PC Elen Pao was a key agent for the imposition of Cultural Marxism on RedditThats why we need the Culling that the virus may bring Darwin in coming back and hes hungry|0 Italy please stay strong Im sure you will get better soon|1 I am asking in your opinion peoples death is just a karma|0 Its not the employees fault Its literally the companys fault|1 Possibly worse than SARS Survivors of the 2003 epidemic apparently have breathing problems and fatigue even now|0 Hahaa Except restrictive societal NosyNancys have made it so I cant teach my 6 yr old to walk around the block alone much less stay home alone Some 70yr old fuck will call CPS on me|0 Worst case scenario kids catch this at school parents catch it from them nobody left to take care of the kids Not loving our politicians over this|0 Laksh do you know which Chinese manufacturer it was that refused to refund the money Jinghao or Retone|0 Lol Free germs|1 Interesting that that willfully ignorant panel during the original announcement left out the fact his wife was also there with himWas she quarantined at the same time as the husband Everything will be fine|1 Taiwan was a Japanese colony in 1912 and until after World War 2 The first mass migration to Taiwan came in the 1700s|0 Try listening to nature sounds on Youtube while lying in bed and visualizing|0 Yeah Hillary was a shite candidate|1 Its estimated that 3 of people have weakened immune systems This never stopped any of us from going about our daily business before Why now The only thing that has changed is the hype and hysterical reactions|1 Im not trying to say this in a if I can do it everyone can kind of way but I have been working from home for almost 7 years My child is 5 and never went to daycare I cant sit here and say it was incredibly easy but it wasnt impossible or even close It just took some adapting and adjustment Not everyones job is the same as mine obviously but working from home generally provides for a bit more freedom than working at an officelocationEveryones circumstances are different but I just wanted to throw that out there|1 Definitely I would also like to add something about contact lens avoid touching your eyes and wear glasses for now|1 My boyfriend is currently barred from working until he can show that he tested negative and isnt otherwise contagious I think hes less concerned with being a statistic than he is trying to make sure he can get by|0 Did you let the school know why you were pulling them I plan to do this after today but Im worried theyll still rack up attendance points Ive pleaded with the school board and they said not until theres a confirmed case in our town Theres one less than an hour away but thats not good enough Our colleges have shut down Ive tried explaining to them that people arent getting tested so we shouldnt wait for confirmed cases No one will listen to me that its just better to be active now Why would we wait until its worse |0 There are limits to what a health system can do if people are hellbent on doing things like these |1 Not the person youre replying to but I feel the need to clarify why our reaction is different to other countriesOur infections per million is way lower than other countries So our response needs to be different If were too heavy handed now it could be disastrous later|0 Yeah I hope they dont use the virus as an excuse to stop filling reusable cups in the long run Its fine if theyre doing it as a preventive measure for a limited period of time but we still do pretty much have a climate crisis to care for|1 Thank you She had a good long good life But had alzheimers the past 5 year where rough So its very bittersweet that she is gone|1 Please post your resume of your expertise on the CDC Medicare or the VA What papers news articles journals etc that you have written about these agencies|1 My Grandma is being the same way Its really sad to me|0 Happy She pining for the fjords|1 Unfortunately I think questions will need to be banned|0 So in other words there is a massive problem that will come and is coming|0 Its easy to say youd risk facing eviction when youre still healthy and not actually in that scenario You wont risk homelessness The gravity of the situation will hit you once you have that choice to face You either have a good safety net with roommates who will cover for youparents who will help you if youre not still a dependent or you are very naiveYoull moan and cry about how unfair it is how you desperately want to stay home But youll go out knowing youre still contagious Youll work to pay the bills because you know once you get evicted its going to be a black mark on your rent history credit Youll still have collections on you until you file bankruptcy and good luck finding a place to live then No one will care you stayed home to do your part Youll get no reward or leniency for your sacrifice No youll go out like everyone else has to and youre a bigger fool for throwing your life away if you dont|1 You dont know the difference between department level and executive level but dam dont you know the difference between Secretary and PresidentLITERALLY irrelevant because a public health emergency which extends to the entire nation is declared by the HHS secretary not the president and obviously after conferring with the president It would help if you actually know what you were talking about|1 Hes not political He has no agenda no voters no investors He simply understands the facts and can communicate them Thats what makes him different|0 1 tbs of ground flaxseed to 23 tbs of water is a fantastic egg substitution|1 Gennies are significant expenses for the average household require fuel and if it broke down are you able to fix itElectronics are great but if it cant be charged via a USB on a solar panel and youre not hardcore prepper Id stick them in the too hard basketSolar lanterns solar USBchargers those are what will get you through a small scale SHTF incident Anything bigger than that and Id say unfortunately a gennie marks you as target 1 for the have nots Slip under the radar dont advertise that you are prepped|0 I cannot imagine how tough that must be and scary I just want to say thank you for all that you do I hope you get some rest and feel better|1 Working in an online shopping hub I can tell you its a great way to bring the virus into your houseThe items you order are handled by gloveless pickers theres no hygiene practices promoted whatsoever and people come to work sick due to a 3 sicknesses before discipline rule The boxes your items come in are then handled by mostly gloved general assistants but these are cotton gloves and if anything make it worse because they touch everything the person touches throughout the day including door handles etc Your items are then re sorted by gloveless drivers to look presentable During the transfer the boxes come into contact with anywhere from 2 to 10 people who are coughing and sneezing in close proximity to the shopping sometimes directly over it as I said theres no hygiene enforced and these people are minimum wage workers who just want to go home|0 The idea that the Spanish Flu started in northern China is a hypothesis The first known case of Spanish Influenza was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11 1918 Therefore we own itInteresting ideas about China and wildlife creating the virus unproven speculation once againYoure right about how they lied and covered it up but its only fair to mention that we did exactly the same thing in 1918 because most of Europe was at war and nobody wanted to show weakness Its called the Spanish Flu because they were the first to report cases China isnt going to own up to their deception nor will they assume responsibility for the financial mayhem that is ongoing and will probably get worse Hell theyve already started blaming the USA|0 Please post unsourced speculation in the discussion threadIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 Thats a big mistakebased on the recommendation I can tell you a few of my local hospitals arent ready California has some great research hospitals with plenty of funding and was ready and prepared to handle the situation The plan failed miserablyFor those who believe your old Ebola and H1n1 protocols will apply the plan will definitely have holesinfected nurses are fighting back after being exposed and contracting the viruswe dont have the right plan the right tools needed to fight this at our hospitals CDC denied nurses to be tested after failed plan of action designed by CDChttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfe7x0vquarantinednurseraisesalarmsoverbeingdeniedutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf At my main facility CDC denied 2 patients with suspected covid19 New criteria for CDC states they would test anyone with a doctors recommendation now yet theyre still denying testingThey keep reporting that theres no back log but there should beThis brings no confidence to the medical communities We dont know the best plan of action and we feel like were flying blind at this pointI hope other facilities here in US have better luck with their sars cov2 challenges|1 Edmonton The mentality here is between my coworkers intense discussion and agreement that its about as bad as the flu it happens every year masks are stupid and they found it on a camel in 2012 so that means we are okOfficially I have heard very little to nothing about what is happening in Edmonton or plans of what will happen My friend told me that an friend of theirs is a paper pusher with Alberta Health Services and they have plans to go on a trip this weekend to Las VegasIf the internal climate of AHS is that all is fair and safe on the horizon and that its perfectly acceptable to remain travelling recreationally with no advice to stop well its not a good signOn the upside I dont think weve been hit by panic buying yet so I have time to pick up some more supplies tomorrow|1 Thank you so much|1 Perhaps and by then itll be too late If not theyll take it seriously when hospitals are so inundated with patients in respiratory failure that access to any other care become impossible Number one killer of young people is trauma There wont be no trauma care when the hospitals are converting ORs and their respiratory equipment into ICUs for the infected|0 Well South Korea and US are two totally different countries in population scale and social culture|1 wearing a gas mask in congress to mock coronavirus hoax|0 Its just a bit worse than the common cold seen on a facebook articleFucking idiots everywhere I got accused of fear mongering for suggesting people start stocking up on supplies now|0 People are preparing to not leave their house for a few weeks Gotta make sure you can wipe your ass in that time|0 great art mainly by starving the artists|1 Oh no|0 Bingo Guarantee the exploited workers of Asia arent getting paid for their missed work If they actually cared they would remove the slavery from their supply chain and ditch the overpaid Instagram account managers|0 Bold words assuming we are a functioning democracy 25 million MORE people voted for a different president than the one we got Votes mean fuck all The people in power are the rich and honestly the rich dont care if we have healthcare or not I wish it were as you think but sadly its not|0 Tell your sister not to risk it Totally worth missing it if that means your entire family is safer I imagine some or a lot of those attendees are Chinese or higher chance they interact with people who have either traveled to or interact with those who have traveled to higher risk areas The 14 day terribly executed self quarantine for almost 7000 Californians coming to an end right about now Its likely going to get worse Tell your parents of you cant convince your sister Point to the CDC announcement from today if you have to Good luck|1 Is that 10 stat true|1 Good tactic|1 People will be more upset if Amazon doesnt keep delivering Theyre planning on using Amazon while they are staying home from their jobs with pay|0 Talk about a dystopian day at work Anyone who thought that it was acceptable to get the bus drivers to do this unprotected and without their express knowledge and consent should be sacked|1 Tbh I dont care your trust its your business and Im not defending my government I can say many things where I hate them too Im just saying a world should allow more voices even different ideas and its your choice to listen or not your trust wont help saving more people in this epidemic nor you distrust kill more people So end of discussion have a good day |0 Check for fever but dont worry too much most people would show syphons by now and the cluster just started spreading around this time so it is extremly unlikely that you got infected|0 Have you tried chartering a private jet to a country that actually tests I hear that works really well|1 Fuck that Buy some shag carpet Get a running start and just let gravity and momentum take care of the restThe best part Someone breaks into your house they know you mean business|1 Considering that the Japanese quarantine officer who tested positive wasnt even on the ship when the quarantine began its safe to conclude that the virus has spread in the couple weeks it was docked|1 The fact that we are hoping private companies make these decisions in the interest of the public good is shameful There need to be federal mandates and relief funds made available for people that are economically impacted|1 At least someone is being honest|1 I pay 8090 a month on water and I live outside of Detroit With a small family but its me and my children bathe together Being a single mom my showers are ridiculously short I cant imagine getting my bill down to 40 a month|0 This seems like bullshit China the epicenter hasnt even had anywhere near that number|0 This story is so sad I hope that this full knowledge is wellknown by the people of China|0 My petition went nowhere I shouted about it and shared on social media and then it went ahead Just saying thats all|1 I blame all of this on the internet being scrubbed of the horrors coming out of China Remember how in January and early February we were watching people get forcibly quarantined bodies in body bags getting stacked upfilling an ambulance within a few minutes people being welded into their homes multiple dead bodies lying on one small street 3 dead children put in one body bag a man who hanged himself because his wife and kids died of the virus while he was quarantined The American public doesnt know about any of that and YouTube Twitter have been deleting the videos from larger channels as fast as they can If these things were shown on the nightly prime time news reactions would be very different|0 Articles not very clear but researchers prolly use it to run models do calculations or other data related things|0 Italian health workers are showing incredible amounts of resilience dedication compassion and care for their people Im humbled and inspired by their efforts and wish them nothing but good health and rest once this is over If not going outside can be even of marginal help for these people I wont Praying all other Italians will do the same|1 at early stages of growth quadratic models fit well alsoAt very early stages of growth you can fit anythingAt later stages of growth where theres no longer exponential growth quadratics look best too while growth is still positive and hasnt taken on a real logistic shape yet|1 Can i have a dual rtx Titans amd 3990x 10 year vvvip free steam account and keep these after the test Will do the test for free|1 FUCK YES THATS MY ALMA MATER|0 Lots of anxious people in these comments who think a flimsy surgical mask is a magic forcefield that can keep germs out rather than breed germs right under your nose|0 Im exactly where you are I did my prep got a months worth of food and supplies forwhatever I guess Shortages quarantine etc Were in AZ have no confirmed spread in my town because nobody is testing Im positive its all over the place so life is going on as usual My wife has a job I am self employed we have a six year old daughter who needs to do things I dont see it possible to just wall ourselves off and besides when would that end This thing could be with us for months and likely will be for years until we develop immunity a vaccine or treatment Its far too contagious At this point Im doing the same reducing the opportunities for infection avoiding the major vectors no big gatherings practicing impeccable hygiene and trying to teach a six year old to the sameNOT easy But aside from that I just feel a bit hopeless and almost apathetic its going to be with us and theres a high likelihood we or someone close to us will get it Containment is not possible so were in mitigation mode|0 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiProjectVeritasYour comments are getting more longwinded and you even went hopped on an alt account to downvote my comment twice Good Let the dipshit flow through you|0 To me trying to grasp the concept of nothingness is akin to tying to grasp infinity I mean I understand these concepts but really grasping them is tough At least for me|0 Should I travel to Scotland Ireland next week from UK for a leisure trip with all possible precautions like Sanitizers Masks GlovesHello AllWanted your opinion if I travel to Scotland Ireland next week from UK for a leisure trip with all possible precautions like Sanitizers masks gloves RegardsSwapnil|1 I bet they willenjoy full sick pay unlike most of us|0 Preach brothersister preach I am so with you on this so much for our clever wealth producing overlords Stupid fks all they can ever see in money now and are incapable of thinking or seeing long term|1 Has she seen an infectious disease specialist She needs to be tested for other respiratory infections in case this is a secondary bacterial infection and she is not on the correct antibiotic for it Much of the danger for dying is from cytokine storm which is the bodys immune system in overdrive and results in crazy inflammation Here is an article that addresses this not specifically for covid19 Maybe you could share with her doctors as suggestions to try There is a class of drugs that block the AT2 receptors that is used to control high blood pressure Covid19 also gets into the body via these receptors They might have some application if the blood pressure doesnt drop too much Once youre already infected not sure if its as useful Wouldnt hurt to try Among the list of other things Once she gets off the steroids it may get worse You should go be with her You need to be her advocate Prayers for your MomhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4711683|0 Some Chinese dude actually chose to disobey and killed 2 officers enforcing quarantine He got served the death penaltySource httpswwwscmpcomnewschinasocietyarticle3053082deathsentencefatalstabbingscoronavirusroadblockchina|0 Oh yeah on point|1 Vegas here and my family and I use five gallon jugs Every single water refill location in Vegas is open and thriving so Id suggest picking up a five gallon jug or two Sure theyre more cumbersome than the onegallons but out here filling them up cost only 1 per jug and I havent come across a single refill station thats out yet Ive got ten of the jugs stockpiled just in case|1 Probably not where I live it might qualify as a misdemeanor but I think the cops would laugh it off at this point|1 Its quite simple you stick to the facts facts only The moment you start comparing it to something else youre either downplaying or causing panic both of which are dangerousDry cough fever shortness of breath Novel virus that has not been seen in humans before At least this way the masses who only read mainstream news wont just shrug it off like they have been doing|1 Yet he is trying to stop the epidemic from spreading Im no Trump supporter but this is a logical reason to keep the ship off of our land|0 We must remember that R0 represents the mean number of people that each individual with the disease will infect In reality R0 is a random variable drawn from some distribution The spread will depend on the shape of that distributionR0 is not unique many different distributions can give rise to the same mean R0|1 Fair points Im not saying the US is going to be Italy but to be under the assumption it will be like SK is dangerous right nowDo you have info on current capacity available in the ICU beds Would be intersting to see|0 There are a lot But none are geared in such a way that the bonus makes any life deciding factor Im in a bonus heavy company and its still only 20 of my salaryBut the article mentions its only bonus for management that its restricting Not employee bonus|1 thank you for posting|1 Nothing really But one post is like a pixel A single pixel does not change the picture nor does a handful of pixels Right now and for over a week now the picture has been grim|0 No testing is being done and people are being told that they dont need to quarantine because their contact wasnt confirmed positive But no one is confirmed positive because theres no testingIts a Covid22|0 What if the virus travels to homes via dirty shoes|0 Yes We called a family member who is a nurse expecting more information but they just said to wash hands They also said the mortality rate is the same as the flu which is untrue|0 I tried everything to stay healthy Donned a P100 weeks ago extreme hand washing Today I had to call PA DoHWoke up sick as hell at 02h00 chest on fire and coughing fits They arent chronic but come and goThroat feels like it is full of ashes hard to swallow Mouth is dry No motivation for food or drink no interestSo damn tired and exhausted legs like rubber and I just want to sit down and not get upDaughter is also coughing fever and a bit lethargic She seems fairly better than I Ages three and thirty fiveI have never felt this bad Like when I cough its like Im breathing hot or superheated air|0 Initial faulty test kits sounds familiar cough cough|0 The parent should be fined and shamed It is reckless disregard for others It tells you everything you need to know about someone that he thought that was okay The dude agreeing with it is the same kind of person|0 Could be mild cases too not necessarily all delayed symptoms|1 Thanks so much|1 poor old ppl |0 Hopefully your regret will not be warranted Stay healthy|1 I hope you get what you are|1 The Wuhan novel virus was first identified in Wuhan about 12 Dec 2019 was inadequately communicated domestically let alone globally for several weeks and is just one newly identified type of coronavirus New virus apparent serious implications particularly for elderly men and others with preconditions and yet wellinformed judgements may still be quite premature|0 Virus does the main damage especially lowering thekilling the normal T cells secondary bacterial infection does the most damage and is what causes the longevity of the incubation period and severity of deaths with ranging complications meaning old and young Think of it as a spear coated with bile I have lymphedema so everytime i catch a virus flu my lowered immune system always allows incubation with water gain plus loss of energy usually a large craving for sugar too then the secondary bacterial infection kicks in then massive fever and such This happens average twice a year The virus incubation combined with the bacterial infection plus the compromised immune system is the no joke about this virus I take my everyday doxycycline with Tylenol everyday Then once i find i have a fever I start off with AlkaSeltzer plus cold and flu dont use just the cold version and make sure it has the bedtime version with it since most healing is done at a restful state then i add my cephalexin which makes my skin peel If none of those dont work I go to the hospital ER where i usually see my disease doctor the next day Been dealing with it for a couple of decades so i got the timing down of events|0 Fuck Jerk Bezos|0 Yeah exactly due to the lag the death rate is always artificially lower all the way until the end|0 We all though we are smarter and better than Chinese|1 I feel you I also work for a large corporation in Dallas with a bunch of good ole boys A few of them got pissed when I brought it up on Monday I hear theres a new disease every election year or democrats are just trying to make Trump look bad I dont talk about it any more but I have taken action on my own like cancelling my company trip to Chicago I was supposed to go to this week My boss looked at me like I was crazy when I said I dont want to be separated from my family with what is on the horizon Im not even really upset or mad at them I feel kind of sorry for them for not taking the time to read between the lines and look at the data that is out there on this disease I wonder what they will say to me when this is all over and done|0 It is likely that the US has at least one outbreak that is not currently controlled but they havent reached the level of Italys main outbreak which has already caused many deaths|0 Thats a 66 mortality rate in Italy Almost double what were seeing world wide Does anyone know why the death rate is so much greater there|0 How does that refute what eukomos said The odds of getting severely sick do indeed correlate with increasing age and even then most of those cases will recover Sure 6080 of Americans MAY get the virus but a big chunk might not even know they ever had it Theres still like a 9697 chance of a full recovery|1 Soooobasically were still amazing and shame on Europe|1 Mic drop|0 Im just using pure surgical spirit at the moment|1 This this right here This is the cause of almost every case in North America out side of the home for people dying slowly in SeattleFirst is was people calling Trump racist for shutting down travel and then carrying on with their day Now its people complaining about how the administration isnt taking this serious and is saying stay calm and then carrying on with their dayAs long as they can keep on keeping on they will Humanity is dumb and finally found a way to kill itself Just keep socializing Karen what are you wierd|0 Are you gonna trust what I was told or your own lying eyesIt says right here 181 house st Is on fire leave those other houses alone|0 Cant we just correct this sentance Novel coronavirus COVID19 is a new strain of coronavirus first identified in Wuhan City China Novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 is a new strain of coronavirus first identified in Wuhan City China It causes the respiratory disease COVID19|1 When you dont let prices rise this is the resultTheres no such thing as sold out when prices are permitted to rise because people self conserve Youd only have bought one maybe none if the price was high enough or your actual need low enough meaning there would still be masks left for those who really do need them later in the day And 10x process are always better than sold out|0 Whats with the diamond princess What happened there Isnt that thing a cruise ship|1 YES lol Its so surreal It really makes me wonder if were really not in an AI generated world I mean seriously Trump being President was predicted by the Simpsons and now we have a plague outbreak and the headlines all feel like generated by a games ai|1 Rapid and decisive response is an ability of authoritarian regimes and oneparty states so its not particularly surprising When you dont have to consider how your actions will affect the next elections life is easier|1 Probably but slowing the spread is incredibly important If you can stop your country getting infected until some medications that are effective in fighting the virus have been found youll be much better off If you can hold it off until a vaccine is created you may avoid a widespread outbreak altogether Hell even a couple of extra weeks could allow you to be significantly more prepared and knowledgeable on how to manage it Any amount of time you can delay means your people will be better off|0 Yep|1 I suspect they are keeping the borders open to the US right now because they are trying to get Canadians home from abroad a friends child was in Europe and was told Westjet and AC were booked for the next 5 days The only way to get home was United Airlines through the US and then transfer to Canada|1 New disease spotted in China New worrying disease spreading A diagnostic team in China has identified a new disease which has been named Covid19 It is quite severe and must be investigated furtherUS bans all flights The United States has become the first country to ban all flights in an out of the countryNorway shuts down land bordersUK prioritising cure researchx200Bfor the in order to avoid misinformation the US only banned flights from countries in Europe for the upcoming 30 days New York Times reports the followinghttpswwwnytimescom20200312worldeuropeeuropecoronavirustravelbanhtmlEarly edit these are NOT actual headlines These are taken from Plague Inc like the comment I replied to mentioned If you want more or make a bingo card for what we we could see happen in the coming period here is the Plague Inc Wiki page for all the ingame news eventshttpsplagueincfandomcomwikiNews|0 Right Its like a 3 year old missing half of the pointLike okay people in charge do you remember that the key to herd immunity is vaccination|1 I worry that by the time they close schools it might be too late|0 I work in print and I once sent a client who was quite a severe religious type a sample layout with Lorem Ipsum generic filler text all over it as an example For some reason they got it into their head that I was taking the piss out of them in some foreign language sent me an extremely angry reply and I never heard from them again|0 No the source that America is only making their own due to their ego|0 Hopefully other will follow this route and we should encourage them to We can only succeed if all get on |1 The percentage definitely matters Illnesses that are widespread but have lower death and hospitalization rates than COVID19 dont routinely bring countries to their knees Itll be really interesting to look back in a year when we have better data and enough time has passed to take out the hysteria Plus it wont be an election year which isnt helping matters|0 College student here Ive spoken with several of my peers who have quite literally responded to my concerns withYOLO orif I die I dieI guarantee these numbskulls havent stared death in the face unless Im just cowardly Itll take one of their buddies dying or something to get through to them|0 Understood but there needs to be real precautions taken I should have elaborated the post also encourages people to come to their office as they offer a personal service|1 In WA its more likely to be the less virulent S type otherwise you would expect to see pneumonia cases in a bunch of 4050 year olds not just the oldThe first tested cases just popped up a couple of days ago PNA isnt instantaneous it happens a week or so after onset Also if you havent been tracking it were not treating PNA unless O2 saturation is also decreased Were asking those people to recuperate at home Both the 19 year old and the 50 year old found a few days ago could easily have PNA just not require hospitalization|0 Whats the point of this post You said you were trolling people like us but then took notice when the stock market crashed and now want to come here and share your wisdom We are the people you dismissed for blowing this whole situation out of proportion so sit down and figure out why every other person here had this figured out before you instead of making a riamverysmart post about how you only got caught with your pants around your knees instead of your ankles|1 If anything thats worst than the unfortunate situation now is exactly this Damn racists with not a hint of sense|0 Not surprised if he had it lol|1 Yeah that needs to change but clearly it makes no logical sense to have someone knocking on doors and handing boxes to people that could potentially be a carrier of the virus Cardboard TTL of COVID19 is 24 hours A studyhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v1fullpdf out this week finds that the virus can survive on hard surfaces such as plastic and stainless steel for up to 72 hours and on cardboard for up to 24 hours |1 I dont know why Im getting excited about it Germany always beat us on penalties in extra time|1 You needed a s for this one I think haha|1 I hadnt thought of it this way but youre 100 correct In fact if Im honest Id be one of those that dont go for something like this especially realizing that Im likely to be okay young and healthy and going to the hospital could equal being quarantined A stay like that could easily run up to the tens of thousands and its just not affordable|1 OP Freakin great missive brothose pens sales must be good Well written and funny And serious and I can totally relate A|1 Not your Google but generously shared 1|1 Thats assuming literally everyone in China being infected which is patently absurd The spanish flu only achieved a 27 global infection and it was one of the most infections pandemics in modern history Besides that 2 number only holds as long as healthcare infrastructure holds up it actually gets much worse than that if infrastructure breaks down That kind of backoftheenvelope math doesnt really work sadly|0 Oh youre right about that The point is that people arent washing their hands even when touching other peoples hands Forgot corona its just unsanitary at the best of timesIsrael has been really good at enforcing home quarantine But I am avoiding public transportation|1 The world sucks now I grew up in NY Im 32 now My mother was a single mom working her ass off By second grade I was walking to and from school by myself and home by myself till my mother got home Im not saying its the best thing but kids are babied way too long nowadays By 15 you should be able to basically take care of yourself but its not like that anymore I think this is also why you have kids living at home till well into their 20s now also besides the economy and jobs etc not talking about that here though People cant take care of themselves or figure out how to survive if they had to for shit|1 Im a truck driver on LI and deliverstock Icecream and frozen product working from 5am to 6pm last Friday was hands down the worst day I have ever experience Being around hundreds of panicked people hoarding everything they can find from morning to night I called out of work for the first time in years the following day because I had a mental breakdown My girlfriend that I live with is a nurse and will 100 be dealing with covid patients by mid next week and I really dont know how to go back to work in that environment come tuesday Stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment any suggestions edit my company can give two shits about me they over work me and havent given me a raise in the almost 7 years that Ive been with them|0 Lets stop with the unneccessary business travel Skype is fine|0 People love to politicize stuff because their Furor tells them its bad Like brown people and climate science Just block the asshole and move on They will go back to their TD or 4chan echo chamber|1 In the US if when cases crop up in local hospitals we should hear rumblings from misc health care workersThere are too many drs nurses and techs that care about our communities health and will start talking|1 What about high temp and LOW humidity Im in CentralCal This week will be rainy but when spring comes so does 80F weather When its summer it stays over 90F Summers are rarely under 98F and usually over 100F Weve had WEEKS over 100F straight with an occasional 99F to end the record But LOW humidity|0 Heres hoping|1 YET YOU REPLIED THANKS XOXO|1 I hope your son will be OK Tell him to use Purell around the clock Lysol every hard surface including the seatback of his desk carry a mini can of Lysol and spray the area where hell sit avoid direct contact with people as often as possibleemail professors vs inperson office hours no clubs etc I forget if this is a university or not but the rest of my comment still stands|0 All good questions I had already emailed the principal a couple times in what steps they were taking and are they aware of the advancing news as many today are just not interested in watching the news I think when were dealing with a pandemic of this proportion with unknown mortality rate of 34 compared to the flu of 01 normal rules are not as valid The Spanish Flu had the best cases in cities that proactively selfisolated pretty much forbid shaking hands and hugging for the common good canceled gatherings etc I learned a lot from a great doc on YouTube on it This virus is not like the last few pandemics it is much more sneaky and ever evolving I emailed my sons teacher and she quickly responded and said she would gladly work with me on this The Principal also told me that they were already training Teachers tomorrow on moving into digital school from home Its a process and Im glad theyre supporting me in our decision I believe schools in CA will close in a matter of weeks esp once Quest gets testing this Monday The tide is shifting soon Employers and schools need to do the right thing and prepare and support people doing whats right for both them and our community to slow down spread We made the decision last night and I emailed his Teacher and copied in the Principal today|1 So people both would have panicked raided all grocery stores but wouldnt have panicked and cancelled their trips or practiced better hygiene Your arguments logic is completely inconsistent Honestly the worst case in my scenario is that people got more shopping in early before there was wide community spread hey maybe we actually have testing or took the WHO up on all the kits they offered Perhaps spending some of the billions on public awareness campaigns on correcting the behavior of some of the stupid people you mentioned There is really no upside to waiting for massive community spread to announce this when you have a hint of foresight Yes grocery line would be have been long but they absolutely are now except you have a much greater chance or catching the flu there now Also how does long grocery shopping lines have any correlation to how the CDC performs its duty That is some serious mental gymnastics If anything people are more likely to listen to the CDC with widespread awareness a general anxiety relating to the virus Which is partially the point of making such a declaration|0 Depends which state you live in but sadly it requires the state to say fuck you to the federal government and take matters into their own hands|0 That also assume available hospital care CFR rises dramatically without medical intervention THAT is why we are screwed Projections have Us hospitals exceeding capacity in 23 weeksat which point things start to get really bad|0 Good luck finding any|1 That came from fox news sources in the white house Propaganda for justifying the denial of the bill I saw the article and was curious But it read as pure propagandaFrom what I read theres potentially a very misleading relation There may have been funds that were to be diverted from programs that were not allowed to fund establishments where abortions are performed but that language was needed to circumvent that because most hospitals in the US perform abortionsFrankly I didnt read much into the bill myself There was too much news and bullshit going on to sift through at the moment with the news briefings given nationwide and in my stateEdit heres a source for the issue httpswwwvicecomenusarticle4ag55grepublicanscoronavirusemergencylegislationabortionrestrictions|0 A former CDC director was on TV speaking about how dire things can get if the spread doesnt slow down|0 So these are pretty crappy sources for this data and its based off of autopsies which just means they are seeing worst case scenario outcomes for patients that likely had other risk factors like smokingasbestos exposureCOPDetc I really dont think this is something that most people need to worry about unless they plan on dying from this disease to be honest and I havent seen any other research or publications indicating this is a widespread thing|0 Yeah Im just waiting for the UK to implode It would be ironic if it wasnt brexit that destroyed the economy but the idiots celebrating it in large crowds|1 Yeah I expect to see numbers jump dramatically in the next week or two now that states can test although for the record I also am sideeyeing my state which is not testing aggressively despite having cases|1 Fuck Elsevier as always bloodsucking parasites|0 The Japanese evacuated about 200 people and now 5 test positive about 2 The Germans evacuated about a 100 and 2 of them tested positive also 2 2 of 11 million is about 200000 people some of the recent research articles also predict 6 digit numbers with their models|1 Yeah they literally will just say this shit and at any opportunity they get when things go negative who actually knows to what extent its true|0 There are free alternatives for everything out there but they are not as effective and polished as the ones made by google Plus they are not all under one company or group which makes it tedious for normal users to collect and use This is the drawbackcompromise of privacy at the moment Personally I like to go the extra steps to use those transparent and open source apps rather than have spyware from the apps made by google and other big marketing corporation|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Try the smaller ones like rcoronavirusGA etc maybe|1 Its not just about waiting for a vaccine quarantines are meant to allow health services to prepare retrain staff add capacity wait for viable antivirals such as remdesivir which is already being given to patients in limited trials and most importantly spread the peak|1 Its a hit piece Pence was asked by a reporter if he supported the needle exchange program He said hed pray on the answer When the bill came around after thatwhen it was ready to be signed and had passed the house and Senate he ended up signing it But because the news media is dishonest and preys on people who are too stupid to understand how government operates they say he delayed action on it Answering a reporter question is not how laws are made|0 El savage a door|0 Same here the virus is not deadly so everything will be fine in 23 weeks Its only the elders who die Like wtf|0 Honestly are we not sure trump is 3 kids in a trenchcoat|1 Universal basic income would go to everyone including the wealthy people who wouldnt need it|1 Thanks for your post Unfortunately when i try to warn people even my own siblings and Mother they either shrug it off laugh or even get angry at me for Trying to scare them People are trying to shame others online for stocking up on itemsI feel sort of guilty but i have everything i need for my family medicine food toilet paper masks gloves goggles 3M respirators a gun in case things get crazy I even have freeze dried food I can live for the next 34 months w out leaving the house if i have toI have Facebook friends in Los Angeles and I dont know how but they dont even know what Corona Virus is yet They tried to buy toilet paper yesterday and were amazed that it is all gone wtf Seriously They are still going to baseball games The ones that do not prepare are starting to get angry at those of us that did i saw it last night at the store the shelves were 12 full and people were pissed off saying this is crazy facebook posts saying anyone who is stocking up on toilet paper are part of the problem i replied to that saying They have 12 rolls on Amazon for 149 which they do but what is crazy is they only had 1 left and it sold while i was copying and pasting it Those who dont prepare better have a lot of to buy the stuff they need from those willing to sell itEdit im not selling anything i have but have offered N95 masks and surgical masks for free to my family who refused because Masks dont work|0 Hi know what he says Good answer|1 I figured we had cases since January throughout major cities all these numbers are not surprising me|0 Economically hes not left wingHe absolutely isHow Hes a capitalist through and through and holds no left wing positions to my knowledgeon immigration hes vagueSo hes leftNope from everything Ive seen hed be another Obama ie would pretend to be nice about it while deporting constantlyHe supports m4a and also the direct control of pharm good prices It may not be particularly well thought out but it doesnt mean hes a free market capitalistHe doesnt support m4a he says he does but has no plan for it has no plan for a public option has no plan for significant change to healthcare at all hed lower a few specific drug prices Cool thats not left wingLibs are the left in the US You can talk about anarchismcommunism until the cows come home but its a practically nonexistent faction in US politicsI would say the DSA and left is the left in the USA and they are pretty significant portion of the population considering socialism is now more popular than capitalism among millennials and gen Z with millions of new voters from the latter every 4 years|1 Jesus fear mongering people like you is not helpful to anyone or anything theres 150k cases right now virus started in December Yeah its spreading fast but your numbers are bullshit And theres been plenty of smart scientist and doctors in fact the overwhelming majority of the medical field seem to say there isnt long term or permanent damage I get if you dont want to be an optimist but keep your made up theories to yourself|0 It could fall into a seasonal pattern until its properly vaccinated against Given the unbelievable speed at which dozens of different vaccines are being developed we may have vaccines ready before the next season to properly kill it off|0 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 God fucking bless doctors nurses and all medical staff|1 Not the best person to be telling you this but this thing can trigger all kinds of organ failure out of nowhere Bad flu pnuemonia is considered a MILD case In severe and critical cases its a literal nightmare|0 Or it just aggravates you so bad that you posted it in another platform where the wouldnt respond At this point with no cure it would HURT anyone to do that so stop reporting stuff in Facebook|0 I will answer for you The Chinese government did the right thing for its people at that time in its characteristically brutal selfish and arrogant way All countries who do the same to Chinese citizens at present are also doing the right thing for their own citizens and treating China in the same manner that China treated othersWhat goes around comes around China should not expect to be treated by other nations any better than it treats others In foreign policy lingo it is called diplomatic parity You get as much kindness from others as you have shown to them|0 Back in January WHO even CONDEMNS countries banning people traveled from China It tells me everything I need to know about the situation of WHO Totally useless and Chinaowned|0 What do they mean by not wanting to create panic Panic equals being prepared I dont see anyone running around saying its the end of the world|0 Clever girl|1 Now I cant win in Pandemic 2|0 LOUDER These facts drive me insane|0 Right It is apparently specific to geographical locations as to how high the CFR really is Ive read it could be as low as 04|0 Time to stock up on vacuum cleaner bags |1 Ive had a bad cough for five days and had a day with headache sneeze and vomited once Worked a day in a location with a confirmed case about ten days ago 30s good health no vulnerabilities Wanted to get tested today to avoid getting older coworkers killed My healthcare provider had me do a phone questionnaire then an hour later speak on phone with nurse then offered an hour later a phone or video checkup with a doctor Doctor over phone checkup said no fever no test go back to workIf Im a case with mild symptoms that spreads then I cant say I didnt try|0 You can do this Its so much easier than you think it is I smoked a pack a day for 25 years and I quit four years ago best decision I ever made The first couple weeks is hard but after that it gets easier And when its over you will wonder why you didnt do it years ago Take it one day one hour one minute at a time No ones perfect if you mess up dont give up|1 THis is something that Im also trying to figure out How many of these mildmoderate cases require to be hospitalized How many people can recover at homeChina reported 8020 in mild to severecritical cases but they hospitalized everyone Im hoping South Korea and Germanys numbers can shed some light on what the hospitalization rate is going to be but that is very concerning at the moment We know the deathrate is going to be around 1 probably less but we need to know how many people need to be in a hospital to get the best outcomes|1 Its already in all the other states A travel ban wont help having each state practice social distancing will|0 Americans call any kind of universal program as socialist the term has lost all meaning|0 Didnt it only go up because the US pumped 12 trillion in Not sure why they thought that would be a long term fix|0 You can cancel itThe decree has been signed at 3 am Italian time so Venice cannot be entered or left|0 Easily Spanish flu killed more than ww1|0 I guess its confusing to talk about h2h transmission Its about the transmission in general So far all of the people were infected in china As soon as somebody is being infected outside of China it is an international issue Still not a crisis|0 Hahaha but you buy their eggs|1 Im tellin you this shit is all over the place I also gave a ride to a hospital worker from Ft Worth Alliance hospital|0 This is a perfect time for Bernie to go nuts saying how the US healthcare system is a disaster and say it isnt prepared and people will be forced to go to work with it and cant even afford testing|0 Classy Mark Cuban|1 I just want to say my mother works in a hospital as well almost all if not every single hospital has a plan for when things like this happen Im in Las Vegas and there are a few reported cases here It is worrying but please ease your mind to know that there are protocols in place for things like this|1 I get what your saying and I personally wouldnt rush out and get a bunch of stuff just because its supposed to help But I have used herbs for inflammation and skin conditions and its always been called homeopathic What Im trying to say is its all lumped under that one word I also use these herbs under the direction of a physician But again its all labeled as such Im just saying plants have been used for a very long time and under the direction of a professional can help It was the only thing that cleared my kids eczema up and I honestly tried it all medicine wise Im just saying understand that while you see homeopathic as one way others lump it all under that name|1 Can someone explain what it means to recover Are you like 100 back to normal as if you never had it And can live normal life again Or does it mean youre just stable and not going to die|1 1 I would never trust to just remove my gloves and go in my home thinking its okay because I just took them offremember I SAID it is STANDARD to wash hands after taking gloves off So obviously coming from my background its a different story or people with similar background And I get your point of view trying to think from someone who doesnt have general knowledge on PPE 2 It doesnt mean they gotta enter their home with dirty hands which also goes back to if you know your shit or not Hand sanitizeror if youre real serious about it a Decon stationSide note Im also someone who jumped the gun back in January and bought rolls of CHEM TAPE and 6MIL thickness plastic bags that I can cut open and make a quarantined little area in my house to be able to properly decontaminate myself or others with DAWN DISH SOAP AND WATERAnd it wouldnt hurt for others to do so similarly YES DAWN DISH SOAP AND WATER IS ALL YOU FUCKING NEED BELIEVE IT OR NOTYes yes alcohols work too Im just saying its as simple as dawn dish soap and wateredit MY original point still stands to the person who thinks using a single pair of gloves at their work will make a difference|0 Viruses typically mutate into less deadly version since you know they want to survive They are at their deadliest just after jumping from one species to another|1 Tell the pharmaceutical industry that selling any life saving products for a profit should be a crime too|0 And simply because it gets hard to breath in them after a couple hours even especially if used properly because it gets moist from your breath if you dont change it And no regular person is going to have enough to change it as much as you need to change it if used properlyNot to mention people will re use them|0 Tomorrow take a picture with a fresh paper newspaper in front like in the old hostage movies|1 we know china and i think japan now tests 4 times no idea how much US tests|0 Why do you think some people have such a hard time wrapping their head around the gravity of the situation|0 Yeah as the demand for intensive care goes up and the system cannot accomodate the quality of care that can be provided goes down And the US may be younger on average it sure aint healthier nor better prepared nor taking it more seriously|1 Probably dont want to have their political opponents use the pandemic as a political football from within the team thats funding the response|0 He used umbrella clearly to avoid contact with diseased person Hes just dumb|0 Even with the emergency reserve there are only 120000 ventilators in the country In the best of times intubation is never a quick decision|1 Treatment does not imply cure There is still supportive care they can give in a hospital|1 Im sure there are people out there that are going to say that this woman is a traitor and should be in jail for damaging the reputation of the government|0 Never let a disaster go to waste This isnt unintentional They are going use this to shave off even more rights mark my words The disease is also particularly harmful to the old and weak Its a fucking win win for the elite|1 Im sorry but the beach is the safest place in broward county is the funniest thing Ive heard all dayI say that from Tallahassee|1 Try rnCoV Its been pretty much outside of this drama but its modding is incredibly tight so may not be everyones cup of tea|1 Subreddit for the ESP32 resp32 Edit to add more subs rarduino resp8266 rdiyelectronicsHeres a search on programming the ESP32 with Arduino IDEhttpswwwgooglecomsearchqprogrammingesp32witharduinoide a few of which were purple because I had already watched them Ill do a short primer chocked full of keywords to search that Ill put in italics and you can highlight and right click to search on In no way is this comprehensive or all encompassing as there are aspects Im just graspingArduino is an eponym It started as a company making a simple device to teach people embedded programming Historically thats hard like when I was in college getting my EE The people making Arduinos built a tool to interface with their boards to make the process easier so the rest of us can focus on getting something done instead of setting up the environment to compile and download code to the gizmoArduino IDE is the computer program that you can write in C or C code to run on your Arduino microcontroller boardgizmo In the realm of Arduino the programs you write to run on the arduino is called a sketch This is all open source Other companies and people realized they could piggyback off the Arduino IDE for their own different products by adding options in the Ardunio IDEArduino is synonymous with that companies products but can also mean the physical layout of the board and its connection pins Companies make shields that can stack onto the arduino board with the processor to make using different technologies modular Example interfacing with CAN bus communication the Arduinos AVR brand processor doesnt have a CAN controller or transciever onboard so you buy a shield with these functions and the capability is added without needing a hardware engineer The hardware engineer is at the company who made the shield and their production value is in bringing this function to arduino easily normally with examples and documentationWhen a company Intel AMD Texas Instruments NXP etc makes a processor they will engineer a processor development kit to help engineers interface with the various functions of that processor Historically each company had form factors layouts and software tool chains that they developed This makes using the processor difficult Arduino lent a de facto standard to the concept of development kits and helped bring more and more products to market highlighting their technologies the best they can in a manner compatible with this new easy way called ArduinoArduino has evolved and morphed into an incredible maker universe with many many companies contributing their products and highlighting their products unique offerings to all of us Blocky is a way to program without writing code you drag and drop blocks to form your program and the IDE then interfaces with the Arduino to make it happenThe first morphing I noticed was when Microbit introduced the chipKIT family of products to highlight their processors they use the Arduino pinout but have a much more capable processor A processor in an embedded device can be called a MCU Their board can be programmed with the Arduino IDE I found the chipKIT when an Arduino didnt have enough RAM to store a simple XY plot The chipKIT was roughly the same price under 40 and had 32K of memoryThen companies expanded the concept into their own formfactors like Adafruit Feather Seeed Studio invented their Grove SystemhttpwikiseeedstudiocomGroveSystem Raspberry Pi is something I would say grew out of Arduino Microbithttpsmicrobitorg anotherAnother morphing is how microsoft used Arduino to highlight their C C sharp code Arduinolike boards were made which were embedded with interpreters in place which could run microsofts machine independent C code C wants to be with java Blocky would be akin to this morphing the easy Arduino IDE to something different andor even more easyI cant begin to be comprehensive with my listing of the morphings it has grown exponentially and branched out in all directions and disciplines especially with STEM in mind Searching electronics vendors for embedded development kits yields hundreds of low price boardsESP32 as I use it grew out of all this and then the M5 Stack people made a way to standardize ESP32 into something even more friendly than Arduino|1 I suspect that coronavirus has been here for a little while now and we just didnt know About a month ago after recovering from the flu a few weeks later my daughter was sick again with low grade fever cough etc she had a respiratory infection apparently but you just never know|0 It will go straight to landlords and the like As soon as they realise everyone has extra money your rent is increasing|1 They will know that too The panic will be to stay in doors the desperation will be to venture out in search of food and medicine|0 We arent sleeping too well brother not too well 6 months is a loooong time getting by wise|1 Until very recently each test here costs the individuals 1000 WITH insurance Even if there were tests no one can afford them Luckily there are programs that are paying for them so the individuals dont but they are not everywhere My country is halfway between a third world and first world country and I hate it|0 He didnt even say that in that context The virus itself being a hoax i heard the recordings that isnt what was said But thats the pushed narrative So thats a done deal now Curious how do you think things would be different if that wasnt said and some other sugar coated lie was in its place|1 He grew the beard The trope thats the opposite of jump the shark when a TV show gets better after one event Named after Commander Riker in star trek the next generation when the show got way better after he grew a beard And Cruz literally grew a beard This thing has layers yo|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 Thats awesomeI love when the government comes in and forcibly takes all of the stuff I legally purchased because I just have too much of it|1 it will absolutely happen again They did the same thing with SARS temporarily shutting down the wet marketsThis is not new this is not a step forward this is China acting like its doing something meaningful and then lifting the ban in 13 months or simply stop enforcing it|0 Why are Boomer men so hardheaded Theyre at high risk yet the most in denial its so weird|0 Quite impressed by our work response Full pay for self isolation or Covid illness and advised to leave laptops at home so we can work remotely at short notice|0 Why is Trump not infected though Well have to wait for 5 days for Walmart Target CEOs and Dr Farci getting tested positive for COVID19|1 I think they should just stay home not merely avoid crowded areas Order your food from the mail or stock up one last time real good at the food store and stay the f homeIts pretty much time to start staying home if you can especially if youre old or have lung problems Of course not everyone can stay home but those who can shouldEven if youre going to still inevitably get it itll be better to get it later and it will help healthcare workers|1 Thats definitely a sit up and take notice situation for any who still have their heads buried|1 stop with the facts its hurting his narrative|0 Mostly not the problem of the test kit but how and where the samples were taken from nose mouth deep throat or even lung fluid and if the samples had virus And also the experience of the nurses taking the samples|1 But that isnt an actual action I suspect that at this point the states and cities are reporting to the press on a minute to minute basis The way I see it its more about the feds funding the states to support hospitals and supply sanitation and food But even that the amount of staff is limited no matter what I see it more as a psychological rather than an actual thing the feds could do|0 What actually leaves me curious Can an US fellow chime in here How does the US system handle the testing well once theyre there and the hospital treatment My question aims at the not existing public healthcare What will be billed to the people that will be tested What will be billed if a test is positive and theyre treatedUltimately if people have to cover themselves this will so badly backfire on top of the way too late tests|1 Its people not understanding how exponential growthinfection rate works I cant wait for more shifting of the goal posts from Oh not many is infected to Oh not many have died into full blown HOLY SHIT WE ALL GON DIEI cant wait for that delicious schadenfreude|1 Thanks updated|1 It was too late by the time China started going public Lets be honest Wuhan is too international and too connected to global industry If this had happened in some backwater it would be fine but Wuhan flies 30000 people in and out every week from foreign locations at least|1 Portland OR has a presumptive positive|1 I think its because serious announcements have just come in the last few days especially out of the US Australia and New Zealand so a lot of people are latching onto the fear mongering Well be trying our best to keep it at bay here though|1 They are protesting online|0 Of course you do High income earners are bad people right Im a business owner who grew up absolutely dirt poor and am from a broken homeBut I worked my ass off day and night 7 days a week to build a moderately successful business which currently employs 29 people who are also paid well I guess Im the bad guy to you|0 x10 How will you maintain any public confidence at all in your government and your systems when you have failed to protect them which is literally your job|1 I think the virus is a bigger threat The number of deaths is likely understated|0 I am Im only seeing my husband and kids He has to work unfortunately|0 i feel really same i dont know why im a kiddo uwu XD i have extreme anxiety attacks and it has very bad repercusions and problemos my heart goes nuts like 110 125 bpm and with this coronavirus situation my attacks have grown and i cant simply stand it but thanks to wholesomeness from very good people in reddit ive quite learned to regulate my bpm and i definetly like these kinds of post My lifestyle has changed beacuse of my tachycardia and it has changed for the betterThanks for this wholesome post Really thx D|1 Huh kind of like letting your patient write their own physical Geez whos doctor did thatWhether or not its a lie who knows|1 The spice extends life|1 USA isnt seriously trying for containment They are focused on slowing it down but have stressed that they believe it getting a foothold is pretty much inevitable|1 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 What I dont get is that everyone knows this but then freaks out when more cases are reported Its like we already know they are there now we just actually have confirmation Nothing has actually changed|1 I am also but the jokes comfort me and make me feel better Reddit still being reddit even in uncertainty makes this news less scary I am sure its not just me but that is how I feel about having a small degree of humour with concerning news|1 No it may work the same way scientifically speaking I take quercetin anyway and Id love for it to work especially as a preventative measure but who the hell knows Those nice Quebec scientists are over in China doing trials to find out It sure would be a kick in the pants if something you can buy on Amazon and Walgreens kicked the crap out of this epidemic|0 Good sue them|1 Exactly Whaaat rCoronavirusFalseInfo got shut down for false info Well darn|1 How do you know you are healthy without testing|1 Living in America is a pretty bad deal Ive realized this after 10 years in Taiwan Hong Kong and New Zealand|0 Is it just me or there is no audio in this video|0 Healthcare System The US is reactive not proactive Costs more to keep that stuff on hand They will get it here eventually once they figure out where to get it from itll be too late then though SMH|0 Well Were fucked|0 The cow killed 10000 in US but tried 12000000 times The shark kill 700 worldwide while only tried 30000 times with many attempts still in action|0 And its not like anyone in East Asia is going on cruises at the moment so the ships are probably empty I dont know about things like air circulation and plumbing though this might preclude them from being useful|0 Seriously People I thought were intelligent are in my Facebook feed spouting dangerous bullshit and getting dozens of likes for it One girl posted an article pointing out the danger to others even if you are young and healthy and like 20 people attacked her and called it fearmongering I never thought Facebook was that great but this is insanity I deleted the app off my phone this morning I just cant handle FBpeople right now|0 Thats not actually true You should look at the potential symptoms list and the percentage of people who get what|0 Reddit and their illusion of freedom of speech In another few years we will all be meeting on the dark web via Tor providing Tor network stays unprofitable Or even mIRC ICQ or BBS Im really showing my age here but I look forward to censorship driving people back to using vintage methods of technology for communication|1 At first I thought wow BBC is really pushing for up to date cultural relevance this season Then I realized it wasnt about Doctor Who|1 Asian peopleLike Pakistanis Sri Lankans ThaisNice racism|0 Meanwhile I personally know of two people who had family visiting the Midwest from Seattle for vacations this weekIm so confused|0 God these posts are so ridiculous What are you solving by posting this Clearly the WHO is corruptnot giving us all the facts and clearly Dr John Campbell has a good grasp of whats going on and has integrity Doesnt change the fact that youre at best virtue signalling and at worst shouting into the void|1 This is how all Flu viruses travel|0 MY FAIR LADY |1 Well yes But the OPs argument is a logical fallacy nonetheless|1 Yeah and add to that the over 200000 low income uninsured that will continue to go to work while infected because they need a paycheck and cant afford medical care anyway our state rejected the Medicaid expansion Its going to get very bad here|0 Only places Im going are work grocery store to see if the stock has improved and drivethru if I have no food|1 Lol 3d print them a giant dildo to go fuck themselves with|0 If its any help my University where I work one of largest in London is about to announce all exams for first years cancelled all other exams moved to alternative assessment and term 3 teaching moved onlineI imagine most Universities are going to follow suit I think many London Universities are announcing it today|1 Im not quite sure where the other New Hampshire post came from but we are under a state of emergency The governor has ordered all schools in the state to be closed until April 3rd Vt is also under state of emergency We now have a mobile testing unit set up in Lebanon NH not at DHMC The sore shelves are now empty and even freezer isles at my local supermarkets|0 Do itI had a couple people pull the its the flu bro then act like I was ridiculous for pointing out the issues with that line of thinkingThen Trump declared a national emergency and NBA got canceled Guess who looked stupid then|0 Sorry I was being completely sarcastic I should have added a s|0 I dont blame Japan I blame the ineptness of the US If we had a president who cared he would have organized communication with Abe Blame can also be placed on the owner of the ship It is not at all clear that Japan has legal dominion over this ship and even if they did which I doubt they need good communication with the US and the owner I doubt they got either|1 I mean Well be grand tbh Im Irish and on immunosuppressants and not worried Chances of it getting here are low and if it does then other countries outside of China have done fairly well in containing it from what we know Im watching the stories and the news here as it progresses but getting overly concerned and panicked wont help anything|0 This is from the 3rd and it is already out of date with the rate this is spiraling in Seattle This article from yesterday which again is probably old newsIncluding the Overlake Medical Center death and the new Snohomish County death the new statewide coronavirus death total is 26|0 My grandmother died around the twentyfirst of January after coming down with a bad fever and respiratory complications Shed only been at the nursing home a week for a broken collarbone In Ohio a couple miles from a university with a large Chinese student population|0 Thats like providing him a free rare commodity Wrapping paper he cant use that for anything|1 I actually read that spray bottles are not recommended as they spray the virus aroundhttpswwwgovsgarticle5stepstocleananddisinfecthomespossiblyexposedtoncovhttpswwwgovsgarticle5stepstocleananddisinfecthomespossiblyexposedtoncovIt says Do not use a spray pack to apply disinfectant as it may create splashes which can further spread the virus But yes I will probably end up using a second cup|1 Our generation is more assholishhi 14 as well they see dumb trends and follow them blindly instead of seeing it as age and generation see their bad habbits and racism comes from family and being raised by the internet believing everything they see they think its funny because everyone jokes about it their age and when adults tell them to grow up and behaive they say its uncool and defy how they should act its their upbringing not their generation or age its what ideas rise them|0 Because fucking Stock Market is more important than People|1 I choose not to have kids Irritating little brats who parents coddle them to no end|0 They have to quarantine Wuhan actually upped their quarantine period for patients to 28 days from 14 days The turnover time alone would clog up hospitals Just think it through logically pal|0 Aww thanks|1 Bad take its neoliberalism for both|0 13 We still have not organised quarantine locations in order protect the staff and patients in the main hospitals|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I feel you My bf is a iTs JuSt A fLu person He thought it was funny to try and touch my face after hed been out to the bank I could have stabbed him|0 No doubt|0 Japan are in the same boat they couldnt even test most of the people on the cruise ship Japan have already exploded thanks to their dumb relaxed attitude They just wanted to make friends with China for economic reasons over the lives of their people Economy people|1 Its completely true The entire government has been shamefully inept Theres no way youre going to make this good for the Dems either no matter how idiotic the president is|0 Its like the most rabid deniers of truth are most active Its literal insanity I dont care who people support politically but I see so many fake memes unironically shared by conservative and liberal groups that I cant help but wonder whats going on inside these peoples heads At the very least people should check their sources but never do This is why we will be royally fucked when corona hits the US|0 Zero tolerance means zero toleranceAct like a dick and Im ruining your trip Wont lose a second of sleep over it Bullies will learn the hard way|1 Id like to hear a professional opinion before you go drawing all these conclusions This may be completely misleadingFor example the London Middlesex pattern is very similar to this one for Toronto but yet we have firsthand knowledge from a verified ER physician did an AMA in the London reddit forum he specifically said we have not seen an increase in the case of individuals presenting with COVIDlike symptoms Theyve been on high alert and doing sentinel testing testing influenza samples Could this pattern not be due to a seasonal nonCOVID19 influenzalike illness like rhinovirus etc|1 You dont think agencies hype shit up for funding Like at all Like the entire intel community and the MICIts going to be fine Jesus|1 I totally agree about the crying wolfers and if there ever was a time for clarity it is now I thought your post was extremely well done by the way and its clear you put a great deal of time and thought into it My kudos|1 The flu the common annual flu is the best counterexample 646000 worldwide killed every year by the flu Same demographics as this virus Wheres the megathreads Wheres the adminpromoted subreddits The headlines Wheres all the commenters talking about our impending doom Lines at Costco|0 Norway is well positioned to take care if its people with their trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund|1 Everything about what you said is incredibly frustrating because its true Sigh|0 This has been pretty much debunked The difference was so minor its not worth considering them as different strains|1 With a name like skittletittys I already know you flip 7 gram rocks|1 What No it is the LEAST American solution Its actually a great idea and not yet overbeaurocracized Not putting a ridiculous list of rules on everything is something we just dont do|1 Bring in those miracle Indian doctors 645 tests in a couple of days with All Clear results|1 Hi and thank you for doing this AMAI have two questionsIn an emergency like this how long does it take to develope and approve a vaccine One month A year Also do you think there is any truth to the rumors and news from China that the virus might affect fertility in men|1 good bot|1 Ill tell my colleague in wuhan Im sure he will be dumbfounded to learn about this|0 Personally i would support legislature banning import of any good that is produced by factory not fit to enviromental standards even if it doubled the price of goods|1 Thank you Captain Obvious|1 This is viral pneumonia not like bacterial where we can just give antibiotics|0 I didnt word it clearly|0 Hopefully she isnt saying Fuck all them kids|1 Ah medical advice from the windmill cancer guyi feel silly for worrying for nothing now I hope he catches it since hes so unphased by it and its SO mild|0 If thats the intention its not just morally reprehensible but also extremely dumb and shortsighted because it will ultimately increase the mortality rate which definitely wont play too well with the electorate|0 Haha at this point even I am feeling bad for you about the lack of data youve been hammering that point for awhile I agree I would hope that by now we could see more data hopefully now that countries like Italy France the UK and the US are starting trials with ChloroquineHydroxychloroquine we might have news within a month or too and hopefully China is transparent with the data on their trials that should be ending soon|1 We dont have government run healthcare we have for profit healthcare and they couldnt afford PPE for their peopleAll the money went up the executives noses|1 I had to whack some of my staff over the head with some facts they didnt know Like how many of their coworkers and their household members fall into the very worrisome mortality rate categories Not to mention all of the public visitorsTo the one who said its just like the flu I explained in small words at significant volume that everyones favorite staff person had lost his mother fast to just the flu two years agoI think some people are incapable of converting statistics to meaning people they know at risk|0 Yeah forget it|1 dumb bimbos in fancy clothes|0 Thank you Words like this are really helpfull in that time|1 Bro youre telling me ive been eating my boogers for almost two decades for NO REASON|0 Its not that more people are necessarily just getting sick That is happening but also existing cases are showing up So if the death rate were markedly higher it would have already started showing up Also worth bearing in mind we have no recorded deaths outside China Id imagine Chinese infrastructure is responsible for a lot of the death rate within China|0 But there are plenty of kits Its a stupidly simple test with widely available reagents The gov saying dont test until x is the problem|0 apps on phone can do way more than just identify you they can get all your contact information track your exact location get info from other apps etc No reason to give them more than they minimally need another basic principal of cyber security|1 They are trying to clear the streets linkhttpswwwwwltvcomarticlenewslocalorleansneworleanssendspolicetobreakuplargecrowdsonbourbonstreet2893e981165665542ab8c855281664a6de8|1 Exactly For people under like 50 the mortality rate is well below one percent Im still a few years shy of thirty even if I do get it and EMT here Im half expecting it eventually I should be fine But I have an eighty something year old grandmother Shes relatively healthy for her age but thats also the age group where youre healthy until you arentWe dont need to panic as a society That does more harm than good But my god we are not taking this shit seriously|1 That IS a fun fact thank you|1 If you truly did that to the cop cars then fuck you Its not about not liking the cops Those are people who will have to respond to those in the community that may be elderly or immunocompromised That could be a death sentence for someone|0 My wife and were planning to visit Cameroon at the end of April to visit familyEarly February she started asking me to look for the cheapest flight tickets I started dragging trying to gain some timeShe eventually even suggested going alone I initially agreed She is ten years younger than me and Im slightly asthmatic so Im a bit scared I dont want to be in a hospital in Cameroon thats my biggest issue But after hearing the first rumors out of Cameroon she finally changed her mindWe arent going now not in the next six months at least Kinda bummed but yeahWe have done enough shopping for 3 months Ill start working from home on Monday My wife works in an elderly home other than that we are now 100 preparedI hope this thing blows over in three weeks I pray it does Either way Im ready|1 Are we sure this isnt a guestlists for one of Epsteins parties|1 Were beyond that Theyre not going to start a US depression to try to contain the uncontainable|0 I work at Starbucks in Canada and Im glad this is happening Two stores in my district were completely shut down as of tonight We are removing condiment stands tomorrow and as of Tuesday all seating will be removed I worked the last two nights on weekends our cafe is usually pretty much full until close and Saturday night it was a ghost town much to my relief Today was pretty slow for most of it up until about 530pm and it was packed all of a sudden This made me very frustrated and anxious how can people be so selfish Some parents were even in with their young children and I overheard a mom telling her young daughter to stop touching the counter and then putting her hands to her mouth She just kind of laughed it off and kind of gave me a smirk as if to say Kids amiright I cringed so hard How can you be aware of something that is so crucial to everyones safety yet be so cavalier about it These people are killing us and and our loved ones and it feels so bleak right nowEdit a word|1 Aw thank you sending back to you too|1 In terms of nastier politics US might see a shift to the right as those infecteddying are in more liberaldemocratic areas VS ConservativeRepublican friendly areas that are secluded This might promote occupying more westerncentral territories as a means to not live in overcrowded places like New York Boston or Los Angeles|1 Thank you|1 Wouldnt more be dead if thats the case|1 And I am absolutely seething with jealousy as an American Theres woefully few people in power with that kind of giveashit about the wellbeing of the populace|0 wish i could bribe lol|1 Good to know we are repeating the same mistakes as before|1 Good luck fighting Amazon for it x|1 Isnt price gouging illegal|1 The government seems to be acting like were still in the prevention phase when weve obviously moved on to the mitigation phase|1 Fuck it I want to try to edit his snoring into a SW scene Ive not done any video editing in years though so itll probably suck|0 I was so sad when that happened|0 Doesnt sound like an opinion to me Since youre so powerful and connected why dont you step up and fix that managers mindset instead of dismissing the OPs experience Transfer a little BelieveHer to this scenario|1 Contain Its in over 48 countries and is only beginning to spread like wildfire in the USThe only good thing about the virus is thank goodness this isnt Ebola|1 I dont think its the loneliness itself that they are worried about I think they are rather worried that old people who get bored lonely or whatever else will stop respecting the quarantine and put everyone at risk|0 what happened did they miss wishing you a healthy New year in one of the years|1 This is exactly what needs to be done Im not one to support mass buying and panicing but people are taking this way too lightly Just because youre fit young healthy adults doesnt mean you get to go around being irresponsible and spreading disease to the old and weak|0 Yeah good luck with that |1 Is leaving really a good idea though Its not like the virus isnt going to infect a large number of people throughout europe within the next month and you might as well be in your local area in your own house when that happensedit probably shouldnt have used a double negative there|0 I was just letting uVauxhallTavern know that this article didnt give any info on the other 7 people regarding their nationality Im not arguing theyre Asian or not|1 A 33yearold woman was admitted to that health center with suspicion of being infected by the virus according to medical sources and staff at that hospital who asked to testify under anonymityThe Health Ministry meanwhile dismissed these versions and explained that this is a patient with bronchial syndrome rhinofaringo complication in the throat and bronchi although he said that person traveled to the city of Beijing ChinaSalud also said they were alerted to the admission of a person to the hospitalThe National Rapid Response team made up of expert epidemiologists immediately moved to take the necessary control measures and investigate the existence of an epidemiological link they said in a statementThe medical sources consulted by El Diario de Hoy however agree that the woman was admitted to a private hospital and that this Thursday she was transferred to the isolation center located in Los Planes de RenderosThey also corroborated that the patient would have been part of a delegation that traveled to China in midJanuarySalud also said they were alerted to the admission of a person to the hospitalThe National Rapid Response team made up of expert epidemiologists immediately moved to take the necessary control measures and investigate the existence of an epidemiological link they said in a statementThe medical sources consulted by El Diario de Hoy however agree that the woman was admitted to a private hospital and that this Thursday she was transferred to the isolation center located in Los Planes de RenderosThey also corroborated that the patient would have been part of a delegation that traveled to China in midJanuaryIn the private hospital where the patient was protected an employee confirmed to El Diario de Hoy that she was transferred by staff of the Ministry of Health at 430 in the afternoonWhen consulting an employee directly on the case she merely said that consultations should be made the next day in the morningA doctor who works in the hospital who asked for a reservation of his name assured this media that the patient was held in an unoccupied room of that care center and that it was then required by the Ministry of Health to be transferred to the Saldaa hospitalPediatrician Rodrigo Simn explained that if there is a suspicious case the protocol to follow is to send evidence to the Center for Disease Control CDC in Atlanta USAUU Whose results will take two weeksSimn recommended that the population be calm and follow the sanitary recommendations|1 fines and jail time will only work if people actually have the capacity to selfisolate In 13 years I havent accumulated a single day of sick pay because every fucking job is on a casual contract now Over 3 million Australians are in the same boat People working paycheck to paycheck dont have the option to simply miss work or theyll be selfisolating on the streets unless landlords all die in the first wave|0 Obama even Blair would do a much better job staring down a disaster for starters|0 Bruh just dont go lol|0 Who has professional quarantine facilities for 3700 people lmao|1 A combination of all of the above The blood tests and antibody levels as well as the general clinical picture all give useful informationThere are downsides to every test including test sensitivity and availability If you arent testing everyone with RTPCR then having a combination of clinical signs which suggest something unusual like COVID19 are very useful|1 Thing is most people just dont believe these things can happen to them I know it sounds silly but Ive seen it They act careless minimalizing the thing until it explodes right on their faces and only then they start taking notice Problem is maybes already too late by then|0 try to relax drink tea and a lot of other healthy fluids like water do not read news all the time you just need the basic info you probably got already isolate as much as possible whether you have the disease or not the main thing now is not to spread or contract it how to act if you get infected be healthy eat healthy food and exercise your body a bit and get some vitamin D from some walks and fresh air of course without too much contact with others|1 You guys need to do some research all the fed did was offer banks 15T in liquidity The banks are going to need it and they absolutely need to stay liquid or everything collapses Its not a stimulus this is different than 2008 Do you guys seriously think the fed just bought 15T of stocks|0 I got my popcorn ready for when this is through They got a sayingYou dont change generals in the middle of the battle But history is replete with Chinese generals losing their heads after the battle is over|0 yes lets save lives in other countries by giving away all of our ventilators leaving millions of our own people to die in the process what an absolutely amazing idea that iswhy would we do that for any reason whatsoever wed be committing suicideim actually stunned by what youre saying its honestly the most ridiculous thing ive seen anyone say about the pandemic so far|1 If this is true then hes gambling the death rate is low enough he can sweep the dead under the carpet How stupid And ducking evil|0 Thats the death rate not the sickness rate There are as far as I know no hard data published on the sickness rate as far as I can tell If you know of any I would really like to get my hands on it|0 I heard the SARS vaccine mortality rate was 100 Brave folks|1 It spread far far away from Hubei Woman from Shanghai infected first people in Germany even before she herself got sick and at least one guy she infected has infected few others ALL before they even knew they had the virus|0 many nurses work 12 hour shifts school doesnt last that long they already have routines in place for people to take care of their kids many nurses do a 12 hour shift and then sleep for the next 8 hours so they have a 20 hour period when they cant take care of their kids|1 If there are no lime then its a punishment Are there limes|0 That is likely more promising than trying to keep this subreddit international |1 Dont they also all want open borders|1 They are single use They cannot be reused between patients or they risk cross contamination|0 I find your lack of faith disturbing|0 Its so much better for your brand overall even if youre losing a couple of hundred grand in the short term|1 Sometimes is people being sensitive referring only to NBA HongKong Also we do want to focus on one specific topic at one time negate everything wont help|0 We need an Iphone app that can shine a light beam glow thing and detect the presence of the virus Since I dont know squat about how this would be possible I have every faith that someone could do this Gotta be some super smart person who can rock this|1 Well magazines and hats dont run around all over the place touching and being touched by lots of other things|1 Yes And staying home|1 I dont understand are you an expert If not how can you possibly disagree with an expert model|0 Please God make it happen These ass holes need to pay|0 Canada here way to go Katie Porter youve just saves many lives Congress needs more people like you|1 Smartest move We should do this at the Federal Level|1 Whaaaat Why didnt I hear about this Censoring during a pandemic Honestly why dont I own a firearm|1 They arent testing more since before they were already testing at full capacityand were unable to test everyone what changed is that since today they have stopped testing anyone with mild symptoms and instead they are counted as possitive authomatically|0 Korea has cult populations thats going around spreading the love of God corona Taiwan despite being vigilant they dont have capacityenough treatment experience with the new virus |1 Chinese people return to their families for the New Years celebration no matter where they are|0 Im no expert but breathing the same air circulated by the same system shared by hundreds infected by COVID19 doesnt sound smart to me|0 Yeah some Next time try not to post clickbait articles like 14 year old boy with coronavirus dies after getting hit by truck|1 I have anxiety anyway n started up with a sore scratchy throat yesterday bit of a runny nose Thinking its allergies or a cold but bit nervous as well|0 Coming into winter as is Australia and New Zealand All cases so far in Australia are imported Not p2p local transmission as yet Edit As the seasonal flu season is coming up there might be a chance for a person to have both seasonal flu and Coronavirus at the same time and for it to morph Any data on people who might have been infected by both and that leading to the horrendous statistics in Wuhan|0 ACE2 inhibition will most probably lead to hypertension But the virus doesnt bind in the enzymatic pocket of the ACE2 enzyme So you can create a monoclonal antibody that binds to that epitope and ACE2 will in all likelihood continue working normally while the virus cannot bind at allWhat is even better is soluble ACE2 that binds to the virus and doesnt allow it to bind to the cells|1 It would be since the papers give specific strains specific nucleotide sequences cut and the locations they were inserted I just dont know how to blast or do sequence alignments|0 Wonder how much does it cost for the host to deep clean a airborne virus You know the one that can last on smooth surface up to 9 days Might be cheaper to refund Just saying|1 Dont worry those quarantines are coming|1 On Jan 18 it was reported that there were 8200 deaths to the flu Not even close to as deadly Source httpswwwcontagionlivecomnewsusflucasesclimbto15millionwith54pediatricdeathsrecordedin201920season|0 Yes you would make a better PM by far than the clown there now|1 I read this today Im actually impressed that our government is the first one to put out somewhat realistic numbers|1 A little disappointing that they arent consolidating this info centrally more reliably The daily trend I think is more relevant than the absolute number of cases in a lot of ways Though they obviously have a lot more important tasks at hand at the moment|1 Lucky Ohioans|1 Thank you|1 They are effective when used and fitted properlyEven homemade cloth masks help sourcehttparchiveis5Vm12 Masks dont have to have an airtight seal to offer some benefit|1 Can you comment on this one httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed30229968httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed30229968It seems to suggest that they are effective Am I missing something|1 My school waited until we had a confirmed case in our district They knew how deadly and infectious it was and still wanted to drag school out as long as possible The schools barely care about the students and it really shows They knew the dangers of it but made it a rule that they wanted to legitimately see someone endangered THEN they took action Nobody is treating this as seriously as they should and if they are taking it seriously they are losing their sht buying toilet paper Sorry for the word wall I just wanted to share my experience with American public schools and their reaction to the coronavirus as well as rant a bit|0 Thank you|1 Well there are some people who claim to be doctors or related positions thats a good point but even the gov wants allmost masks to go to the healthcare workers|1 Nah Im also nonpolitical and mostly independent I have always been a big Bernie fan since he started running back in 2016You dont need specific political leanings to be an idiot|0 Animation assignments and animal crossing new horizons I read a really long and horrible Facebook post today that is almost 100 fake but the imagery in it was so horrifying that every time I think of it I get a horrible anxious tremor On new medication to treat anxiety and migraines which contributes heavily to my jitteriness which is highly annoying when you are doing hand drawn animation Im also setting up a new computer for university work and got myself some new clothes so Im looking so forward to those arrivingAlso not offensive at all this time is incredibly stressful and its nice to just talk about well nice things to people|0 No we plan on shooting you When you start looking for food and look suspicious walking up|0 Youd love socialized health care That way they can decide the vulnerable arent worth treating at all and just refuse to treat them|1 justice|1 This is actually the first alarming news regards to kids|0 True but we are in the early days of understanding long term effects but as you state this could have reproductive immune system and other systemic problems The point is this article does a good job of covering what IS known|1 As the situation develops I wanted to try and gather more information that could potentially allow for greater awareness of the situation concerning the spread of the COVID19 pandemic which is currently happening around the worldWhile the WHO and other national governments are sharing and recording their own data an open communitybased source could prove useful in combating underreporting and misinformation However it must be clear that these submissions will not have an even distribution as they are currently only from users in rCoronavirus and community submissions only which are not verified by any public authorityPlease be honest the situation is serious while there is no need to panic we should all be doing everything we can to help each other and ensure that reliable information is available We are all in this togetherSymptom Reporting httpsdocsgooglecomformsde1FAIpQLSd329asttJCz6VIiBJ9OBnVLnsRKGJGjzcQ3YBGT1swL8sJgviewformuspsflinkhttpsdocsgooglecomformsde1FAIpQLSd329asttJCz6VIiBJ9OBnVLnsRKGJGjzcQ3YBGT1swL8sJgviewformuspsflinkResults will be shared here work in progress httpsdatastudiogooglecomreporting0f39f2b4f83a4ca9a4bffcd3a2c01078httpsdatastudiogooglecomreporting0f39f2b4f83a4ca9a4bffcd3a2c01078|1 Im not a medic or anything but its been my understanding thanks to school biology theres a whole bunch of viruses that some people never build an immunity to for whatever reason including not by vaccination Google vaccine nonresponders hepatitisb for instance 515 or varicella vaccine failure etc So Im hoping very hard that its a rare occurance that people can be reinfected|1 Does he have any good shit|0 ive heard from friends that CVS stores have not been raided|1 Have you methttpsduckduckgocomqtrumpsdoctortffabiaximagesiaimages his doctor lol|1 This clever cartoon has been circulating here in China the patient in the bed is meant to be a hot and dry noodle which is the signature dish from Wuhan In the window are specialty foods from the other provinces of China sending well wishes and urging Wuhan to keep fightingIm not artistically inclined at all but I think it would be cool if we could make one in return Change out the china foods in the window with foods around the world Like tacos cheeseburgers pasta sushi etcId love to share that back with the people here to let them know the world is also with them so if anyone is good at this stuff and would be interested feel free to PM here|1 CDC Its actually more like 11 billion first of all but for a government agency the size of the CDC that isnt really that much I know it sounds like a lot but I think the argument could easily be made that it should be higher|1 Reports were if anything the opposite Chinese death certificates only allow a single cause of death without a test it would default to just pneumonia|0 My great grandmother died of the 1918 flu and left my grandfather with his father alone His father remarried a horrible woman who kicked him out at age 13 after his father had committed suicide in the barn He had a horrible life as a kid but went off to WWII as a spy for the US Army History repeats itself The first time it is tragedy the second is a farce|0 Ironic|0 Same could be said with respect to the comment above mine|1 Yep|1 Happened in Wuhan The 1918 pandemic had three phases the second wave autumn was the one that had the most deaths while the first wave in spring had just a couple thousands like SARSCov2 we will see|1 I suspect South Korea has the most accurate fatality rate given the widespread testing it has done They likely have caught most of the mild and asymptomatic cases Its easier to count the dead and more severe cases compared to mildasymptomatic cases if you have limited testing kits Singapore is the best case scenario ie locking down the infected and truly contain the spread|0 That is really sad just 21|0 Well its not like were taking about area 51 and lizard people here We know how the flu spreads and we know its here in the states We also know how it spread in ChinaThe conspiracy nuts in this case are the ones who think its a genetic weapon designed by either the chinese or the USA to wage war or something|0 The kangaroos want nothing to do with him|1 Id like to be in an horror movie when at some point characters divide themselves|0 42 years42 years 5 states from deep blue to deep red And what doesnt The gun parthttpswwwpolitifactcomfactchecks2019sep09betoorourkehowmanygunsarestreetsunitedstates or that the fed is impotenthttpswwwcdcgovquarantineaboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolationhtml when it comes to quarantines I am lost on your ignorance and ability to point to the problem you are having|0 Same shit different day|0 I am 19 miles away from a case Lol|1 Herd immunity httpswwwovgoxacuknewsherdimmunityhowdoesitwork If enough people in a population are immune to the disease it is harder for the disease to find new hosts to spread too|1 How bad of a time this is to travel to the USA Do you think that the US government will take measures and cancel flights within the next week|0 this virus is fucking crazy|0 Boy it sure would cost a lot to pay for everyones wages and bail out all the small companies that will go bust or the insurance companies that have to do it if we dontHopefully it is better for you there than in the US but loss of business coverage doesnt count right now The virus doesnt meet the requirements so as always the insurance company will be just fine|1 Its just shopping Lets just call it what it really is The original definition is just fine Shopping is shopping now matter how many ways its emphasized Yes shopping to get supplies is just normal behavior Dont let strange labels from people get you down You know your a normal shopper and thats all that matters Cheer up |1 No hospitals can do very little without an authorization from the state You dont want to know how much red tape a hospital has to go through to install a new ICU blockThe US healthcare system combines the worst of two worlds rigidity and red tape of a governmentcontrolled system and profit motive of a private system|0 That will definitely attract all of the local corvid zombies in the area|1 That is stupid there are hundreds of thousands employees from those companies working remotely at any given time|0 Theyre selling it on eBay and Amazon|1 Awesome news Step away from WHO recommendations|1 looks at 1980s yea they sure like taking risks|1 I have a bunch left over from some home improvement projects DM a little proof and Ill send you a dozen tomorrow|1 best experts|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 Please take your god emperor worship to an appropriate sub There are many on reddit|1 Most people dont understand basic economics and scream ThOSe GOugerS arE StEaLING OUr MoNEY|0 Most Americans are incredibly selfish and wouldnt inconvenience themselves for anyone else not part of their immediate circle|0 Probably economic reasons If some country ends up like China with hundreds of cases being reported everyday it wouldnt be good to a lot of companies interests If panic spreads then trade and flight movement comes to a halt Chinese goods here that were imported before the virus had spread there are worth more than three times their original price Humans will find ways to profit from anything so naturally they want as much good of a bad thing that they can get as horrible as that sounds|0 Well Im from Scandinavia 39people per sq mile in Finland with high quality free healthcare and pretty much everyone has a cottage in the country But I dont fully recognize the point in travelling to a safer area right now Just make sure you arent old and dont have autoimmune problems Getting stranded far away from your home is probably going to be worse for you|1 Not to mention the thousands of Chinese students here who attend Harvard MIT and the other 30 colleges in Boston alone Guess where most of them went for winter break|0 exactly same with what i heard from my friends in china hoping it over soon|1 Source on that Lol|1 If its a stupid idea and it works then its not a stupid idea|0 Honestly at this point can I just buy my own test kit from like South Korea or sum|1 Social media might finally become a helpful thing|1 Heres hoping that they manage to recover|1 He says people have been presenting with flulike symptoms but testing negative for the flu for months and that thinks this has been widespread for a while nowCDC says first case hit seattle in mid january We definitely had communitytransmissions starting in mid february because one week later when people started to die|0 The government was trying to be too rational Just on Friday they relaxed measures saying they were unreasonable beforeI called some politicians out on Twitter and one told me Im panicking for no reason When I was asking for a 14 day quarantine for anyone who was in contact with a Corona patient like they do in other countriesSame guy was quite frantic today asking for the 14 day quarantineThis is a shitshow|0 Just live your life normally till you cant anymore and be prepared for that There is no reason to stress out something you cant control the stress probably isnt good for your health either|0 Lol they havent been in power for a decade mateThe shit hole country we now live in is all on the tories|0 You do realize right wing right of center and social politics are an oxymoron Now I will say our liberals are divided you have what I call liberals left of center then you have progressives socialists pretending to be democrats to run on the ticket Also they try to push now a days conservatives as what normal people call white supremests how ever they forget white supremests adhere to nazism which was the socialist party Most Democrats during the civil war had a lot of people who where part of the 3ks and did not want to free slaves The Democrats party has changed Ill admit however the smear on republicans is dumb cause all people need to do is actually pick up a book but they dont want to or want you to do that|0 It was a man though BBC is wrong All French media is reporting is was an 80 year old man But in the end it doesnt matter Just sad for the victim and his relatives|0 I have a relative with 2 kids who lives in Colorado She does not want to be alone with her kids there during quarantine even though she has a husband so she is flying from there to Wisconsin tomorrow to be with her elderly mother in law who can watch her kids I am furious and disappointed at the inlaws for allowing this just stay home please|0 Choo choo No brakes|0 Id like to piggy back on this one and ask if hand sanitizer is as effective as hand washing for COVID 19 prevention I thought hand sanitizers are antibacterial and this being a virus seems like it shouldnt be affected by hand sanitizers|1 The article mentions that its managers bonus that are restricted So normal people can still get a bonus But those companies that get help probably wont be turning bonuslevelprofits this yearAlso most companies in norway are not geared in such a way that the bonus for an employee really has that much to say And especially not lower and normal income onesIn Norway the bonus is exactly that A BONUS You should be able to live fine without it|1 Statistics is statistics the definition of mean vs median doesnt changeWhat you were saying would be likely correct if incubation period have a gaussian distribution for this virus which it may very well does but you should have mentionedcited it since its a critical piece of reasoning for your statement|0 Another sanctimonious message ok pal stay home then Self quarantine ride out the storm Tons of people are doing this in my city too telling everyone how they have a respiratory problem and will die but they all end their message with I cant stay home Im being forced to work shop etc everyone should disrupt everything so you dont have to Dont think so Take the precautions for you follow guidelines and stay safe Parents whining about schools are the worst if you dont want to send your kid dont fucking send them If you disagree with the school being open keep them out Stop crying youll die and then sending your kid to school They wont be failed held back literally nothing will happen The public education state literally forces kids forward what makes you think now there is a problem your kid will be held back Morons Sorry been holding this one in for a while|0 not really the virus is going to go through the population regardless theres no stopping that at this point We have the ability to take various measures to slow its spread down but it stopped being containable the moment it left Wuhan This is mainly because even if we did have an immediate quarantine of the entire USA for two months and starved the virus to the point of eradication there would be new cases coming in via outside the country Even if we set up extensive testing for all incoming travelers there would be cracks in the system you wouldnt need many that allow covidpositive people into the us You would at least have endless local quarantines and closures if not large national quarantines and lockdowns until either a enough of the population developed immunity to kickstart herd immunity or b a vaccine was developed The estimated R0 of covid19 is 228httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed32097725 This means that if slightly more than 56 of people in the US got it then the functional R0 would move to 1 and herd immunity would begin to kick in with an infectious person passing it to less than 1 person on averagex200Bthe only real thing we can do is to prevent an overloading of the healthcare system for this quarantines and lockdowns are useful it is inevitable that a baseline amount of people get it and die though because measures based on only quarantine and lockdown will not protect people from infection long term only herd immunity will remember that the effect and quality of healthcare is factored into the death rates for covid19 meaning that since we have nonnull death rates in the US for covid patients and our hospitals have not yet been overloaded those deaths are deaths that occured DESPITE healthcare not in absence of it So the real tragedy of this whole thing is that once the initial infection spread out of WuhanChina it set in motion a long inevitable chain of events that guaranteed this minimal nonnull floor death rate of people who get the virus everywhere in the world Once it spread out of control millions were doomed|0 I have no use for a President that did not prepare his country for this outbreak S Korea and Iran have been on top of their Countries the whole time US looks like a Third world CountryCompared to them And our President only cares about the stock market Very upsetting|1 If we close schools how many nurses will have to stay home and look after children Our number one priority should be to do everything we can to ensure we have the most healthiest and best equipped medical workers possible|1 Since US sanctions were imposed in Iran Iran has developed closer ties to China Students who used to go to the US to study now go to Iran Business ties to China have also increased so not much mystery about whats happening now in Iran|1 Thats what they said before Using a different word wont help the situation And people just went nuts|0 Its funny how any posts about optimism rationality and that dont promote panic are quickly downvoted and followed up with a post telling them how wrong they are sprinkled with panic It really shows a lot about the majority of people on these threads|1 No he was later abducted by aliens that look like obama clones Im not saying I believe him though but look into it|0 Because mortality rates are drastically different in different countries and injury due to mechanical ventilation is a well known cause of mortality in patients like these And mechanical ventilation practices are known to be different at different times and placesIt is really just common sense but of course not definitive Once you have a hypothesis then you need to go collect data to check itPainting this question as a conspiracy theory is frankly antiscience|0 Ultimate fear monger page|0 Hmmm ok I know theyve been discussing how the charter works re not letting people with symptoms in the country since we have a right to enter However actually getting a flight is another matter Im here in Canada with my grandmother and the rest of my family is in the states so if none of us can travel itll limit some options|1 Thats crazy|0 I am saying we should take every precaution Quarantine the animals that were in the homes of those who fell sick What does it hurt|0 Fuck the Fed|0 Its either this or they are so incompetent they have no idea what is going on or what to do We watch all these movies where some pandemic hits and the CDC swoops in with their people in hazmat suits and setup quarantines and people are in labs doing scientist stuff Satellites in orbit are transmitting data computers lights are blinking tape reels are spinning telegraphs are spitting out morse code all while Who are you by the Who is playing in the background CSI referenceIn reality everyone is just licking windows I mean it is government workers we are talking about|0 I agree and I hope they do Sounds like a horror movie|1 No test in Oregon My husband returned from Kirkland buying groceries at QFC 1 mile from Kirkland LifeCare center Fever then dry cough for days slightly short of breath with pulse ox dropping to 92 percent Doctor cant test because he doesnt meet the criteria Self quarantined anyway|0 Thank you for recognizing how shitty airBNB is I live in Toronto and it has messed with housing prices so much I hate airBNB with all my heart 3|0 I go to a state Uni in Pa shit will definitely hit the fan for us after spring break The band took a trip to LA and I know of people going to SC New York and some other states Once everyone is back and partying this weekend itll probably spread across campus fairly fast|1 Damn right|0 Politicians are toast They rub shoulders with people all day long glad handing literally There will be a great culling of older politicians without any party favoritism|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Man you are no better than the brainwashed trolls that blindly praise the CCPIts called strongman politics and youre being fooled|1 No it was really kind of you to try to make a difference in the struggle of someone recovering from drugs|0 If there is a relationship I suspect it is weak and if it isnt well know in days Millions of Americans take lisinopril It is one of the worlds most prescribed medicines Either way Im sure people are looking into this as week speak and a pile of studies are on the way|0 Well I have guns so|1 Tha k you for everything you are doing in these hard times you are one the front lines of one of the worst crisiss in the last 6080 years|0 Uh hard to mess up more than the country that literally unleashed the virus on the world|0 What really Wholefoods wouldnt deliver damn|1 No one should give a F what you think because everything youve said is currently only purported by Chinas communist partyThats the only source of your supposed evidenceIn the end you could be right This could be the time that the CCP was finally honest but the fact youre so stuck on it shows youre nothing but a propaganda piece|0 Most importantlythreatens our livesIdk if all Chinese people are nationalisticbut most of us value our own lives|1 I love your masks|1 Fine by me My only fear is running out of essentials in that time period|0 The death rate was about 02 The novel corona virus has a death rate of 1 which is 50 times as high AND its more contagious AND it kills older people with terrifying efficiencySo those things|0 The guy who doesnt believe in evolution and who talks to an invisible magic man in the sky with telepathic thoughts is now in charge Lets all relax now|1 I work at a hospital Im showing symptoms with no fever I work VERY closely with patients over half of my regulars are poor and over 60 Im thinking of taking the hit to my vacationsick time and using it to get mt self away got at least a week But we only get 6 days They dont even freaking test me unless I have had contact with a confirmed case Which makes no god damn sense|0 I didnt say you didnt do it to yourselves tooYou guys fuck yourselves more than anyone sometimes|0 Thats what I mean its not something I think we can fully grasp until put in the situation but planing for that sense of boredom that could possibly hit is wise to help mentally Glad you pulled through|1 This move is not exactly 4d chess Its more like 2d chutes and ladders|1 Small scale they dont care about you Large scale they worry about stockholders|0 Even if hospitals had enough beds would Americans go to hospital given theyll be bankrupt once they recovered|0 In 1918 people thought the flu had passed and then it came around for another wave This is what Im wondering about with China It apparently peaked way before it hit herd immunity levels even putting aside the question of whether people can by reinfected What happens when they loosen restrictions and someone from another country comes in and reintroduces it Are they in for multiple rounds of this situation|0 Theres also a chance that tests might just fail and you have to start over right|0 Related to this what is current best practice for people taking antihypertension medicines Are higher risks associated with taking certain antihypertension medicines|1 Nah just add an I Center for Disease Information Control|0 You close early for certain holidays Christmas etc|1 Give it a decade or a few people will be reading and watching what happened in 2020 and be like man people were stupid back then thank God this cant happen today with all our progress and science Then theyll proceed to fuck it all up in precisely the same way|1 Come on people It was a dumb joke in an awkward situation He shouldnt have done that but the bigger issue is the culture we have in America thinking this is funny and the whole room expected to think the same You all know a few people close to you that would do the same In that same vein the recently passed NBA rule of limiting player contact to reporters to at least 6ft apart has also in large part been joked about by every team in the NBA That rule passed before this Gobert incident btwOur government should have told us this was potentially a serious problem a month ago and to take precautions now Id still bet that 34 Americans would say theres not much cause for concern At least here in Utah And no Gobert shouldnt have done that it was dumb But thats not the main problem hereWere screwed people This is going to get much worse before it gets any betterHeres a good thread that goes in depth about Gobert and the reporters around him httpswwwredditcomrnbacommentsfhc0qnjazzreportersthoughtsongoberttouchingutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x|0 Well NY just raised the bar on everyone Im sure a lot of the blue states will follow|1 They were all reading prepared statements come on Biden Trump|1 OUr leaders do not have balls anymore to take decisions to save country|1 Send them some of the ACTUAL expert opinions on the virus it might help change their mind Doctors here in Australia have been urging the government to close schools and things like thatBesides that just know that you were ahead of the curve that eventually people will start seeing things differently and I know that might not bring you peace of mind but realise that everyone is unique and will respond differently to things like thisYou just need to focus on your response right now Maybe do a bit of prepping for your friends who might find themselves in a bind later Buy them some things have some extra food or toilet paper for them|1 LOL the time to close our borders was months ago friend|1 The recent 7 cases all from Iran There are no direct flights to Iran from Canada|0 Get her tested its the easiest way to find out Its not really dangerous perse it just has to be stopped|1 Good point I should get more sleep these days|1 I think the reason he wanted to buy it was because he did indeed test negative Now he wants to be the first vaccinated so he doesnt die He says its for America but its really for him Seriously think about it This man only really thinks about himself and his friends until hes pressured to do otherwise|1 We didnt stock up because husband and myself had the flu But not at the same time so our normal household supply of tp and Lysol and frozen meats were severely diminished by the time either of us felt like making a grocery run Now with two more kids home from their suddenly closed colleges we need to find a normal amount of tp and basic supplies We are finally up to one weeks supply after trying 7 different stores over two days Normally I would have been on top of this but were were dragging knuckles on the ground for weeks|0 That regime is just terrible absolute idiots they will get infected themselves it is already happening|0 This sounds like an email that would come from a church Loler praythecoronaaway|1 On the other hand the hospitals here have instituted a policy of everyone having to wear masks because of influenza no mention of corona possibility This has resulted in it being more impossible to buy masks Around 2 hours after delivery the pharmacies are out|1 Wish I could upvote you|1 i wish i dont want to dwell on the past its gone now is all we have left|1 Just buy a hand held sprayerbidet|1 Will it though Not clear at this point and certainly not soon|1 So I love this but it isnt actually an influenza virus I dont mean to be semantic but a lot of people conflate the two when they are totally different and it is important to keep the separation Boomer virus Boomer Covid Boomer Coronavirus Something like that Not as pithy but more accurate|1 Its not washing your hands like crazy for yourself Its washing your hands and not letting yourself get infected so you dont give it to others who could easily die from it This is a world group effort and we all need to play a part|0 I heard a rumor that its already mutated from the strain first observed in China Do you know of any truth to or evidence supporting this rumor If so can you explain how its mutated andor are there additional precautions that need to be taken|1 I would look closely at FDAs approach to regulating rtPCRbased testsThe CDC shouldnt have to distribute test kits Publish the target sequences and let multiple vendors plug them in to established reviewed rtPCR frameworks and you should be good to go with multiple implementations available so you arent stuck if one of them has a contamination problem|1 I saw another post from a person who was having to leave because their program was shut down They said they didnt really have a choice as their housing gave them a week to get out|0 No I am good|1 One would hope if the stakeholders with science backgrounds get any political pushback they would immediately resign and go public with the data Whats good for the public might not be good for politics|1 I want to start seeing right wing Americans jailed for doing exactly the same thing|0 Im sorry about your job If you need a new one let me know EDIT Im in the Scottsdale Area|0 The USA used requisition on times of emergency For example Second powers act that allow any agency to seize materials tools equipment land and plantsNational defence act for times of war too compliance for orders for materials and products shall be obligatory and precedence before any other order or contract |0 Yeah Im an assistant manager at a Carwash and their first response was oh we have been through flu and other cold seasons before Then it turned into disinfect everything commonly touched and CDC guidelines Now its wear gloves when talking to all customers and save labor cause we are only washing sub 100 a day When things start to stabilize Im looking for a new job Its sad cause I liked my job up till this point and thought the owner was a little different but now I see its not true|0 5 death with the mass majority of then being very old people or people with very weak systems|0 Im already planning on staying home starting Monday deBlasio can go fuck himself|0 But is it safe to have the highest risk population congregate together Other stores have decided NOT to do this specifically due to this risk|0 not this time i assure you a lot of people are taken aback by his stance he is still the best on policy and growing the economy but the odds of reelection are lower today because of the weird virus denial|0 I dont think anyones paying the doomers They just get a hardon from acting like theyre woke to something the sheeple dont see|1 The best freedom unit|1 Sorry world we have to just let it spread in America because it costs to much Nothing we can do about it|0 The disease is already out in public in huge numbers Anyone with upper respiratory symptoms needs to assume they are infected The only way we will combat this is with social distancing and shutting down all nonessential work All schools should be closed We need to learn from the countries that are succeeding as well as the countries that got overwhelmed If we dont start shutting things down we are fucked It is likely already too late in cities like Seattle hospitals will be overrun within a week but they wont be confirmed cases|0 Gah Litterally shitting a brick in Austin right nowI wonder if this will be like herpes or something Everyone that gets it will continually just flareup so the outbreaks of clusters never truly end I mean I cant see a person fighting a bug like this without developing some kind of immunity to it Its just unfathomable to me|1 lets huddle everyone into a bunker with no backup lights and a possible back entrance because we didnt check lol|0 Wow how long has that been going on Im so sorry I went to urgent care today to get a chest Xray just to make sure and feel better that my lungs are fine Who knows how Ill feel or if it will get better I can only hope for the best God bless u|1 The president is well aware that even if only 5 of the US population is infected we will have 559000 deaths at a 34 Mortality current mortality rate or 329000 deaths at a 20 Mortality talking heads rates both surpass the Swine flu and only the 1918 Spanish flu stands in the way of the lead|0 Thank you China we are really grateful for your helpI hope all the assholes who were being racist dicks until a few weeks ago will rethink their actions probably wont because theyre morons|1 He was trying to prevent panic at the start but theres only so long you can do that before everyone everywhere is coughing and feverish|0 Ive watched this with equal measures of interest and fear since 1000 Pretty interesting times to be living in|1 Cool that 40month will really save me when I lose my job and cant pay my rent|1 Watch our prophet Dr John Campbell He shall calm your soul|1 And vice versaIts painfully stupid to watch on both sides|0 Keeps my sinuses well lubricated|1 Bro are you delusional Lol come back in like 5 days and tell me how well we are doing in the US Washington is shit show already NY is turning into one Lol and Florida Florida is going to be the wildfire that sets this thing off into proportions we cannot handle Again youre touting the trump administration like they are a god send and doing everything right The only reason our numbers are as low as they are is we are not testing everyone we should Plain and simple And no this is not able to be contained like MERS as that was linked directly back to camels in that middle eastern region and SARS you did not become infectious until you were sick for a substantial duration and showing symptoms for that amount of time too This however can spread without any sign of sickness NOT THE SAME Dude give it up You clearly have a hard on for the GOP and Trump we get it|1 Yeah maybe people in this subreddit should follow that advice too|1 So theres some basis in reality for those scenes in outbreak movies where one person is immune and they have to use their blood This is fascinating and I really hope its an answer right now|1 He literally just explained this to youIts so they dont have ppl saying different things Everybody needs to be clear and precise This is how all crisis are properly handledThere was never a gag order Vice President Mike Pence created a firestorm after he informed agency officials that all messaging related to the coronavirus must be filtered through his office but a senior Trump administration official said on Friday that was only a temporary pause to ensure proper coordination Pences policy led to some career experts canceling television appearances though they have told lawmakers the administration is not silencing themWe want open clear rapid fast transparent communication the senior administration official said pointing to a Friday press briefing with White House officials and Health and Human Services Department Secretary Alex Azar and other media events Pence is just trying to make sure theyre not unintentionally scaring the American public by having people on at every hour of every single cable network and saying different things each hourhttpswwwgovexeccommanagement202002whitehousepledgesprotectemployeescoronavirusletexpertsspeak163419|1 You know what he meant youre just being argumentative lmao|1 how is gamestop not bankrupt shitty service shitty employers wasteful stores horrible quality control|1 Thanks for catching my mistake|1 I wish our district would support my decision to do the same We were told the school would not excuse absences unless there was a doctors note|1 Yes you put it better than me as a popular alternative I guess I was trying to say the option of working from home will become the norm|1 You can always wipe things down with rubbing alcohol or bleach solution I always give my plastic and cans a soak in rubbing alcohol bc I cant find bleach anywhere but I let my cardboard items sit for a few days The virus only lasts about 24 hrs on Cardboard but can last 3 days on plastic and metal|1 Yep OP knows|1 A gente esta sortudo que o Corona no foi forte antes Carnaval|0 The way our medical and work systems are structured now are simply incompatible with this virus Now our leaders are freaking out because taking advantage of the workers and normal citizens to make profit got us here in the first place|1 Unfortunately it would take more than 2 weeks to kill it off and youd have to stop all travel and importexport to the county for the duration of the global pandemic or until a vaccine was developed and widely distributed sometime next year Its literally just not possible|0 Exactly what reddit and everyone else should be doing Spreading fear and panicking is wayyy more of a problem than the virus itself Really pathetic to be honest|0 Man my kid was so excited to dye her hair a rainbow and go to Pride I hope she can go next year|1 So you didnt read the post It was about the efficacy of prayer on your mental healthYou can wash your hands and also pray These are not mutually exclusive ideas|1 A lot of people died from the Spanish flu from starvation and super infections rather than from the flu itself|0 Anal sex had a higher chance of transmition than vaginal sexBut transmission occurs less often via anal sex than vaginal sex worldwide It is right for you to be concerned about having anal sex though Good for you for keeping safe|1 Judging by paintings from past times where its mostly drawn to be a blueish clear surface and not a sickly brownishgreen tint Yes yes it did|1 Wheres that vid of him on Hot Ones coughing saying wtf|0 To be clear are you stating that the two people under investigation are also in the NLR area|1 I know some pretty spry 80 somethings|1 Seriously If i remember glancing at the paper they SPECIFICALLY say that they arent saying it can be transferred this way it is just a study of how long it lives on these surfaces in ideal conditions|1 China built new hospitals in a matter of days and closed down the epicentre of the disease Most people who brought the disease out were people from the west that were in Wuhan at that moment They have handled the situation and it is for now under control the situation in the West is getting progressively worse|0 Me I have it 92 sure They wont test me because its mild but I have known contact|1 God|1 Thank you for this Just ordered some zinc lozenges|1 I have a csection scheduled for June 19th The thought of my husband not being there andor me being separated from my newborn for two weeks has me a nervous wreck|0 Its wild Im young and have no underlying conditions so Im not to worried about myself but am scared for my grandmother who lives in Seattle shes 83 and since we arent doing widespread testing she has no way of knowing how many people in her area have it She lives alone too so she has to go do her errands herself I would stay w her but Im worried I might pass it on to her|0 It means its so widespread that if you have the symptoms its presumed you have it Swabbing noses was spreading it If youre symptomatic CALL your doc You will be swabbed if you get really sick to confirm Theyre thinking that some folks are carriersI agree that this might cause under reporting but there is a rhyme and reason|0 Thanks|1 Okay Bilbo Let us know how Smaug is doing|1 Bartender at a casino for about 8 years Theyre shutting us down for a few weeks Theyre paying us hourly which is shit considering most of our money is made through tips but Im still grateful Because I know a lot of us arent getting anything I hope this blows over soon but I fear my nest egg is going to dwindle away real fast They say were down for a few weeks but I see this being a few month ordeal|0 People arent thinking of the repercussions of wanting the government to move at lightning speed during times like this They have proven time and again that the end result is going to be more freedom and privacy erosion Its never going to be for the good of the people|1 Just think what would happen if Sanders wins and healthcare is run by government entirely scary|1 Ha Just read the tile Funny that I actually thought thats all theyd said This is absolutely my expectation|1 I saw pics of shoppers in line in Italy They all had shopping carts which kept them pretty well separated|1 Thats the only reason they may cave in Trump is actually a little self aware that hes looking bad to even his constituents atm Its a rare sighting to be sure|0 The sad thing is that the exponential spread does not look so bad in the first weeks and it gives an early warning for several weeks to prepare it gives the false sense of security that it is just the flu|0 Yup nobodys gives a shit literally my brother is taking his son and GF to Disneyland in Florida for 7 days next week So much about avoiding public places|0 I was torn My kids college in Florida has moved all classes online and most students are instate will go home Home for us is SF Bay Area After struggling with this we decided he should come home I know the risks of him catching the virus on his flights But if it escalates in Florida the medical facilities will be swamped with all the retirees needing help I cannot bear the thought of him being alone in the dorms if he gets sick|0 Tits up bro Im already dtf on this and printing like crazy|0 Sounds similar to Sweden Fucking Finland that stashes resources for shit like this One thing could be good though if alot of health personnel is getting sick now they can probably work without masks later|0 Is North Korea the safest place on the planet right now|1 In another week it will be different story Hopefully Fuck|0 Nah you can get fucked Stop spreading misinformation you god damn idiotedit httpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemaskshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019adviceforpublicwhenandhowtousemasksyall downvoting me can get fucked you dont know better than the WHO so stop acting like you do|0 Yes the economic crisis scares me more than the virus|0 Lucky its an island|1 Ah makes sense Id say the reason it looks like more nonnationals post on snapmaps in the first place is because repercussions for them would be less severe anyway Thanks for your response|1 They and especially them should be beaten to a puddle of tissue|0 It would break their hypocratic oath You cant choose based on personal feelings that opens the door for discrimination Everyone thats sick is sick because they went out and about touched their face and didnt self isolate at the beginning of this|0 Your body generally gets rid of excess immune cells after an infection most of the ones produced as a direct response to an infection are ordered to kill themselves this is mainly due to the energy they need B Cells in particular need constant signals from Helper T Cells or they die If the immune system is already weakened B Cells might be dying before their time has come or maybe a less aggressive immune system might be calling for apoptosis too early allowing the virus to swing back Alternatively they could simply be reinforced for some diseases you dont always develop full immunity the first time you encounter them|0 Here in the uk they wont test you unless youre a high risk patient|0 What a rich and vibrant culture|1 Its not saving face its calculated What better way to put fear into the idiot majority than a major virus outbreak during an election year Its like being a War President but with microbesWe need stability during these trying times A change in administration will only serve to weaken our ability to fight against this agent of destruction Mike Pence probably|0 Happened to my roommate because he came from Washington not overseas Now Im sitting at home with a fever and muscle aches wondering if I infected my whole workplace|0 Yep I guess we could order more ventilators from china Oh wait they are closed|1 Of course I see the line of argument Good lord I have an MS in mathematics Im very familiar with logical arguments Which is why the argument that this is a good thing is so obviously illogical to me Redditors LOVE to go around parroting things like overpopulation and other things without EVER backing it up with a solid logical argument The historical precedent is what that loss of life due to disease has often preceded power and economic vacuums allowing for paradigm shifts leading to more advancement and therefore loss of life is good Give me an Fing break The lack of insight is incredible|1 In the 1918 flu pandemic people setup roadblocks around there own towns in the USA to stop people coming in|0 like a responsible adult|1 This should be illegal Too bad our gov has gone into hiding|0 That is conspiracy BS|0 I dunno I keep seeing comments about it not being racist so I presume someones making them |1 Exactly those that havent followed from the beginnings have no idea the implications of this We need to know the origin and fast Jesus I cant believe they are trying to blame the US Wtf|0 Well guys it s been good and all but I m type A so |1 Yes 8 in the France airplane would correspond to hundreds of thousands infected by now So 2009 swine flu level|0 I mean I feel like its to late for me at this point but ya Im definitely looking the problem is I have 8 or 9 years I Forget which and I get decent ish 1465hr pay with a little boy on the way due at the end of may and some alright benefits 2 weeks vacation 5 ph days and stock and insurance options but ya Im not happy at all about this|0 No because in hospitals we are very good about testing for the flu|0 I dont think it means that youre misinterpretting your own data If datasets were perfect it would mean 2x more likely to die if youre contacted COVID19 compared to dying now due to any other cause You need to multiply nCoV data to probability of getting COVID19 because nCoV just means probability to die if you have COVID whereas Total means probability die just by existing from other causes Say if we believe 60 of world population will be impacted you need to calculate 06 nCoV TotalEDIT For 25 07 0002 000106415 13156040031950382 This means IF 70 of 25 year olds population gets covid 25 year olds are 13x more liekly to die from COVID compared to any other cause assuming this dataset is perfect which I dont know if it is If my math is right Fix me if Im wrong Im not an expert|0 I wish people around me paid attention Women in my local moms group are still spewing the more people die from the flu As they complain about childrens museums and public library closures Ive lost my breath trying to get through to them that their willful ignorance can kill someone but they just say Im not keeping my kids inside for my sanity If people are sick or elderly they should self quarantine not me My kids will enjoy their spring break I also get attacked and told to quit spreading fear If the truth is so scary maybe they should keep their kids home|0 Unfortunately we english only seem to learn after the fact and when its to late Luckily growing up in Zimbabwe taught us to be prepared and survive|1 ulxlCaraBoolxl Source A family member works as a medical professional in an area hospital in a capacity that I can not be any more specific about Not directed at you specifically but people in general Do not go to a local hospital and demand a test The local hospitals are feeling the strain just from the phone calls alone We do not have the ability to perform the test locally in Chattanooga Its not that they dont want to test you They cant for both logistic and procedural reasons We do now have the ability to have a limited number of tests sent to private labs like Labcorp Labcorp still has limited capacity and medical facilities have to be very choosy about what gets sent They just cant test everyone who wants a test as an abundance of caution measure The local hospital I am familiar with is following the published CDC guidelines These CDC guidelines are subject to change quickly but my understanding is that they have not changed substantially from the March 4th guidelineshttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtml that we are all familiar with high risk country within 14 days direct contact with an infected person AND have symptomsCall your primary care physician first|0 Im in the south and hand sanitizer has been out of stock everywhere since I started looking for it on the 28th we dont even have any confirmed cases|1 How much money do you have to pay to be tested|0 Doesnt help|0 Look at the other countries where it started Couple cases there and there and then it exploded This scenario seems unlikely unfortunately|0 Were they wearing those elastic shoe covers on top of their shoes|1 Stop these events|0 Really dont want to turn this into politics left is naive right is assholes etc I dont care not a political guy but friend says he blames the right for privitizing healthcare and reducing taxes with preparedness being much better before thatWe also have a bad habit or more mandate of law rather of giving work to the lowest bidder when it comes to government contracts and the company responsible for deliveries now is apparently atrocious|0 Smart You are smart More citizens need to be like you|1 Ah ok So when we have private labs that can test then it will be covered That makes sense|1 Brilliant Carrying toothpicks with me now|1 Sorry Im still freaking out It takes me forever to get back to baseline Im really scared and I lash out when Im scared|0 Thank you|1 My company cancelled all meetings Yesterday people were making fun of it Then the NBA suspended the season and everyones 401k imploded and now the few people in the office are talking virus all day|0 Yeah some stupid rumors Nothing to worry about|1 I know several older people who will not listen and send me Facebook screenshots of information The information in these posts is ridiculous BTW They all think its being blown out of proportion I end up just telling them I love them and to be careful Nothing can be done|1 Lol yank removed my comment fuck off man|0 wow that is pretty good|1 Same Doesnt help that I wear glasses that I constantly adjust unconsciously|0 Well any chance some of them did NOT have the virus has been completely obliterated|0 This is not WWII Countries were physically destroyed from that Yes China prob back first but who are they selling to exactly This will all be back to normal in 6 months Long term companies will probably look to diversify their manufacturing process which will hurt China|0 I feel your pain And Im in total agreement with most of your thoughts and opinions I live in Hudson Valley and commute into Manhattan Ive stopped taking Metro North and the subway I dont want to drive anywhere near New Rochelle My firm has not yet gotten the memo on letting all of us work from home You are lucky in that respect that your University is going virtualI dont think the NYT is the best source of news A Canadian redditor has put together a great Covid19 PSAhttpswwwredditcomrcanadacommentsfghd23psaregardingcovid19awarningutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare5Bhere5Dhttpswwwredditcomrcanadacommentsfghd23psaregardingcovid19awarningutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare which is the best overall resource Ive found so far The list of precautions is a mile long but at least its comprehensive It takes a while to load but the 10 seconds wait time is worth it There are also the daily MedCram lectures on YouTube Hard science very little politics helps give you a good perspective I have tons of other links if youre interestedI dont know what to tell you about your parents For people in your age group teens to twenties money is a huge challenge Im older 62 but I have my own challenges Im in a highrisk Corona age group I had a lot of difficulties as a teenager when I was in college and I sought free counseling through Stanford University It was worth it Im struggling emotionally right now and may have to return to meditation I dont have your battle with parents but I have problems with my extreme social isolation no friends or family to speak of and I have bad PTSD from a lot of stuff Feel free to PM me|1 It wasnt exactly the same The grandfather passed because of a heart attack or something not because of the virus no one knew And the little boy had been told not to get out so he didnt before an official making rounds found him several days later|0 Recommend dosage|1 If true then thats kinda a retarded thing to do|0 I did Now I have friends who didnt listen who are down to three roles of toilet paper|1 wuhan was overwhelmed and they quarantined at 600 800 cases 17 deaths the west is quarantining later washington is currently at i think 19 deaths yes the numbers are skewed from the residential home but they arent quarantining yet or even testing anymore so what the plan is to not overwhelm hospitals in washington i would really like to know|1 I think they mean the tracker that showed you how far away a pokmon was It showed 1 2 or 3 steps to show how close you wereFrom what I remember it lasted a few weeks because of the massive strain on the servers|0 yea thats true lets just hope those numbers stay low suppose well find out as more places get hit|1 Its really frustrating that people are spreading around such blatant misinformation It makes me not want to look at this sub sometimes |0 Its called prioritising the FTSE100 over the general public Bad news for people great news for hedge fund managers|1 I dont get it My rhinoplasty was canceled and while I get its disappointing for anyone who is insecure it is 100 percent understandable If it wasnt canceled in my country I would have postponed it myself Mine was supposed to be tomorrow Yeah it sucks but you know what People need the hospital space to deal with a global pandemic After all of this is over there will be plenty of time for cosmetic procedures I cant even imagine being that selfish speaking as a person who is in almost an exactly similar situation as that man and didnt do what he didAlso If he really is that selfish having coronavirus and undergoing rhinoplasty to the primary site the surgery is the same area where the virus attacks bad idea Imagine recovering from surgery on the nose meanwhile having corona That will be his karma|0 As a fellow nurse I too am concerned for her and all the nurses in Seattle I heard admin was telling them the proper PPE is now Droplet Precaution I just checked CDC website and it still recommends Airborne PrecautionI hope she and her colleagues stay safe Best of luck to you|1 there were no accidents back then only happy trolling|1 Best video Ive seen so far Thanks|1 The great wall of china was a body bag all along|1 Its just the flu window has passed to contain it|0 Also the companies producing and distributing thalidomide knew about the birth defects dozens of kids born without limbs from children of people who worked at the company and used the drug before it was widely available and lied about its safety refused to pay out settlements to people whose lives were significantly negatively impacted by their birth defects no arms no legs in some cases neural damage and after they were forbidden to sell in North America and Europe pivoted to developing nations where it is being used widely as a treatment for leprosy and where you guessed it it is causing birth defects still today|0 So this means healthcare workers just have to suffer then|0 What picture someone told me about a picture i dont know anything about hte picture ive never seen it I take many pictures sometimes 100s of pictures a day The best pictures I dont know this person or who you are talking aboutJESUS CHRIST who is letting him answer questions|1 In what way are things getting better My city doesnt even have a single test available yet I live in a city of 3 million people in the USA|1 As long as Trump is in office nothing will happen the fat orange fucker will pat himself on the back on a job well done|0 no doubt cant rule that out|0 lol downvoted for not fitting the tinfoil hat reddit narrative|1 Im not too sure what the public health protocol is but I was at a hospital last week Etobicoke General emergency room to be specific for a broken toe and there were very little quarantine protocols visible The only standard thing was the required wearing of masks if you have a coughMy neighbours left to go to Hong Kong in December and came home early Since theyve been back they have self quarantined for the next two weeks despite having no symptoms as a precaution So hopefully some people are taking those safety measures but likely not as my neighbour is retired and can afford to spend two weeks at homeHeard there is a potential case at McMaster too and someone on this sub posted Toronto hospitals will still have you waiting for hours if you suspect you have it and walk into an ER|0 This seems like a safety hazard|1 The book isnt pro or anti Israel Israel builds the wall based on their military intelligence agency which looks into fringe theories aka the zombie Apocalypse They build the wall in order to save themselves and allow Palestinians to come back in after most refused they shut the wall and just watched as zombie hordes killed hundreds of thousands without letting anyone in which is pretty heartless They didnt attempt to save anyone outside the wall out of fear of compromising the security|1 Panic at the picnic|0 Come on Promising a million 4 days from now does not make todays statistics fake newsAlso the 1 million isnt slated for PA For all you know PA gets 6 of that million|0 To be fair I think slightly less than half of people Americans got it this year|1 Im not in a peak area But weve done very little testing here and so many people havent been taking it seriously until about the last two days some still arent I think Im basically going to remain holed up as much as I can until delivery with my daughter not going to school Family members and families at her school have continued to travel by plane and go to large gatherings|0 The thing is many of these politicians take lobbing money in exchange for making sure we dont get real healthcare Which kills 68000 people each yearSo the voters are wishing death upon politicians for free Whereas politicians are wishing death upon voters in exchange for moneyNeither is good but one is more nefarious than the other|0 The site is offline and so our chances to find a cure|1 Folks I think its safe to say this virus is a nothingburger Like many in this thread I was initially swept up by the happening frenzy but the more case histories that were made available the clearer it became that this is all just much ado about nothingFirstly I must commend President Xi for his outstanding leadership in these tough times He has successfully contained the spread of this virus while also containing the spread of something far more dangerous unfounded panic President Xi has set an example to the rest of the world in how to quickly and efficiently deal with a novel virusThe swiftness at which this virus has been neutralised is aweinspirng This may be a bold thing for me to say but I think President Xi has shown that he is the leader of the free world He has shown that China is now the global superpower This is a response the likes of which has never been seen with unprecedented success So while we celebrate the inevitable eradication of this virus I raise a toast TO PRESIDENT XI LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD|1 It talks about babies It says 11 percent under age 1 were severe or critical|0 Wait another week to find out you need a national quarantine and things are still going to get exponentially worse over the following two weeks|0 Sadly thats how triage works in disaster settings Im just wondering if and when that will start to happen in the US|0 cant we just shuffle this guy off with some sort of strange accident he makes me wretch with his selfish greed and sickening displays austentatious wealth and technology he is an embaresment to himself and everything around him|0 So just like the US then got it|1 I honestly dont know and saying anything concrete I think would only add to the hysteria The only thing I know for certain is the interests of the party holds primacy over the lives of the people They lied during SARS they lied in the beginning stages of this outbreak All I can say is dont trust the information that THEY reveal to you or the data that westerners extrapolate from Chinese data What matters is the data collected outside of China|0 Do you think that the infection numbers in Italy have just stopped growing|0 De Blasio is putting all of the blame on the federal government but wont do what all of the surroundings states are doing and closing schools Its recklessEdit It was announced that schools will be closed after all|0 We were running 80 occupancy at Great Wolf before it shutdown for Covid Youre bringing your kids and grandkids out to a vacation spot where kids run their snotty hands all over every single inch they can touch The water is fine I can say they got really good filtering and all but Jesus I wash my hands after Every door and every weird surface I end up near|1 Yeah it was the deaths that caught my eye too|1 Thats great youre keeping an eye out and keeping up with your yearly appointments I walk away every day thankful for what I have as well |1 I think the point being made is the link between unusual culinary habits combined with poor food hygeine standards and the likelihood of novel viruses entering the human population|0 Battling misinformation online also known as battling the information that will hurt our bottom line|0 Ive suspected we were beyond 100k for a few days now Thats not based on anything except how much testing we ARE doing and how much testing were explicitly NOT doing Im not an expert or anything|0 What do you mean As in they will cancel|0 Herd immunity means that so many people already got sick and became immune that disease dies down because there arent enough hosts that didnt get sick yet to sustain the disease Its why even people that arent vaccinated usually dont get sick for some eradicated diseases|0 I agree 100 with your last two paragraphs but unless we have robots to manufacture things at low cost or UBI to prop up salaries of manufacturing workers manufacturing is never coming back to the western world in scale|0 Its a simple matter to have supplies left on the stoop Payment too just as they are walking up No need to open the door to strangers or germs|0 You arent wrong it just sickens me that China handles massive public health emergencies this way If they want to obfuscate on political protests fine though shady as all hell but this is about the lives of their citizens|0 I work at a designer store in NYC Rockefeller Highly tourism area Our store refuses to close just reduce the hours of opening by a few hours NYC needs to make all retail designer stores close I am literally risking my life and potentially spreading it bc my company cares more about the tiny about of money they could make then their employees|1 Im lucky that I could handle that I think my employer would likely pay us but if not I have enough PTO to get through that I dont have kids but I would volunteer to watch kids for those who have to go to work like healthcare workers|1 Sorry for the loss You should ask to see if they have their own vetted movers|0 Relax its just a flu|1 My dad is a staunch Trump supporter and even he is clued in to the danger we are facing You should know what youre talking about before pigeonholing an entire demographic|0 If I were elderly I would avoid the subway at all cost regardless of a mask If I were a young person I would be much more concerned with what my hands touch the seat handle bars etc than wearing a maskYou provide a visceral anecdote but you dont address either of my pointsHas there ever been any evidence that East Asian societies that use masks on a general basis suffer from significantly fewer cases of the flu or common cold Also why did the mask culture of South Korea succumb to the virus if masks are so effective|0 It cant be everybody though There are a significant number of people rushing Costco for example Those people cant be laughing it off|0 Friend is a lab tech in suburban Houston and he told me the same thing Last weekend|1 FUCK YEAH FUCK THE CCP|0 Great So happy to see my homeland is fucking people over in the name of even more money Not the kind of publicity my tiny little grand duchy needs|1 If the funeral director died he would still have to go in to work one more time|0 So capitalism works as intended being survival of the fittest with regards to payroll and expenses The story has been the same for decades nothing else has changed besides more of what your preaching heard it when minimal wage was being increased to 725 didnt see any businesses collapseWhile at the same time I do agree with you regarding sudden change can affect many smaller businesses unfairly maybe a gradual process to slowly slide in these benefits would be helpful to all parties involved|1 Heres the textSPRINGFIELD Mo Addie Blankenship of NAMI Southwest Missouri says the coronavirus is alarming all kinds of peopleFor anybody who may not identify having a mental illness its scary said BlankenshipBlankenship says these fears can be exemplified in someone with ObsessiveCompulsive Disorder or other forms of debilitating anxietyIt can be uncomfortable and stressful for somebody said BlankenshipWhich is why the organization is working to educate our communityWeve had a lot of folks who have verbalized anxiety over this so we decided were going to be proactive said BlankenshipShe says this includes reminding their clients of ways to stay safeWash your hands if youre sick stay home if youre feeling depressed or anxious reach out to your doctor your therapist come to us for support said BlankenshipJanet Plemmons works and volunteers at NAMIPlemmons says anxiety is also a part of her everyday lifeIts like a constant nervousness especially with this virus the coronavirus said PlemmonsPlemmons admits its hard not to think about COVID19 at timesI am atrisk because of my age Im over 60 and have a compromised immune system said PlemmonsPlemmons says she wants to learn ways to stay safe not just for herself but for those around herI think the keyword is coping skills said Plemmons I want to be able to not let the mental illness take over and make me frantic or upset my daily life said Plemmons|0 Very interesting Just looked at my cbc Im 41 and my neutrophil to lymphocyte ratio is 286 repeating of coursethis report would imply my danger is low I think|0 Im expecting 810 US only has 1 million staffed beds latest numbers are 12 that test positive are critical US will be 2030 millions bed short|1 Ive said it and Ill say it again Either you go full EU or you disband it This once again shows why lots of advice no power to do anything|0 Its just the flu bros|0 Not quite Its more the other way around Almost all fake news or instances where the media just got it wrong is negative about him You will never see them accidentally make him look good Edit One great example is the headlines Trump calls coronavirus a hoax and its maybe one of the most egregious fake news examples ever|0 Yes it is quite different Hospitals in Japan are not as well equipped as American hospitals much less amenities and personal equipment in each room The bed I stayed in for 3 days was very uncomfortable and was not adjustable At one point a group on Japanese doctors gathered around my bed had me strip naked and then had a lengthy medical discussion while poking me My limited Japanese was not enough to understand anything other than that I was OK but then why were all these doctors looking at me Anyway that shit about Japanese doctors being more polite yeah no|0 Most likely not but with the way people are acting now especially in the grocery stores I dont really want to be anywhere near that as the outbreak continues to worsen|0 Nope he declared out of hand that the virus definitely didnt come from that lab just before a bunch of Chinese scientists said they thought it probably didIt has 96 genetic similarity to a virus found in bats in 2013 Its not from the lab you absolute conspiracy spewing mongoloid Are we really on day 1 still|1 I have had the same experience Im sick and my PCP wont test me Then the newspapers and official websites publish these absurdly low figures of confirmed cases Well of course theyre low because theyre refusing to test almost everyone|0 People with mild symptoms probably includes about 12 of the whole United States as the symptoms are indistinguishable from other ordinary illnesses like cold and flu People with mild symptoms assume they dont COVID19 anyway so how deadly the President states the virus is or isnt is completely irrelevant to their decision making process because they dont even know they have the virus Think of how many people you know right now currently experiencing cold or flu like symptoms Now how many of those people assume they have COVID19 and are acting accordingly|0 Jeez dude relax Even in China outside of Hubei cases have remained low I right now we need to fight the panic more than anything|0 Movies and Tv would have you believe America is full of super heroes Turns out most of us are just fucking idiots|1 They cancelled the Seoul concerts But the Cali start to the tour is still a go in April|0 Shut the wet markets down indefinitely STOP the consumption of wild animals stop the poor sanitary conditions|0 I have chosen to keep them off this week but I run the risk of being fined for each child I would like the choice without being penalised for it|1 Apparently a runny nose is a very VERY uncommon symptom I would definitely say thats probably allergies Im no doctor though|1 lol|1 Umm no|0 could be at 12 million within a week It is only that high if the public can prove it No testing no Coronavirus It is just a good public health policy not to test as clearly it is the testing theat results in the increase of infected cases s|1 Peoples loved ones die from car accidents all the time and nobody argues for banning cars to reduce the number of accidents At some point even emotional people will realize that the economic impact it would take to prevent their loved ones death isnt worth it|0 Most ppl are tired of hearing it can only take so much|0 Welcome to the human factor of ignorance and stupidity combine that with delayed responses by governments and the fact in China a human life dont mean shit so they can just weld you into your house and you will understand how fucked the west really is|0 We should luck out on that The corona family has a slower mutation rate than the flu I wouldnt worry too much about mutation right now Even ifwhen it does there is a probably better than 5050 chance that it mutates into a less virulent form Because of selection pressure etcAlso there are a lot of studies questioning virulence of that outbreak A lot of other factors were involved outside of the virus itself in making it as deadly as it was|1 Thank you for this Nobody deserves this and anyone who says so is a sociopathExcept of course for the animal merchants May they rot in hell|0 Thats assuming your average healthy 20 or 30 year old doesnt get pneumonia or require hospitalization in an already at capacity hospital though|1 From a workers compensation perspective our attorney have advised that anyone who says they need to stay home let them stay home Not sure if thats helpful but theyre taking a very conservative approach and so should your employer|1 I feel so bad for them are we airdropping them supplies|0 I was thinking this same thingthe nooks and crannies problem|0 Also parents are getting two weeks of paid leave to take care of their children|1 Talking like a true CCP spokesmanI am impressed|1 1 Viruses arent alive2 If you leave 01 alive youll get super resistant viruses Whats the end goal|1 Yeah same I tried to get my hands on some in January too but they were disgustingly expensive not at all feasible for my family to stock up on|0 ttle shit said he built me a special gift It was a heart shaped house Cute right I open the door and walk inside and the whole damn place blows up while he cackles atit would be a whole different story if that was in real life and not in Minecraft|1 Yes but the airlines are the ones restricting who gets on planes Once youre in Canada or at the border with symptoms you can get in Canada cant turn Canadian citizens away once theyve already landed or are at the physical border Airlines can turn people around though which is what the government told them to do|0 If they had been tested people would be pissed that they have access to tests and so many others at risk dont Loose loose Goodbye Karma |0 Let me put it to you this way Say youre a prole in oh Italy under mussolini The Americans roll through and save your bacon Do you think the US is concerned here with doing its duty to humanity And how do you feel a few years later when they coup your government|1 The act of butchering them specifically and monkey blood getting into small nicks and cuts on the butchers hands|0 Such a shame the country has a justice system where people can actually defend themselves|1 See yesterdays post Important French announcement RT 901 16MAR20httpsoldredditcomrnCoVcommentsfjj653importantfrenchannouncementrt90116mar20 for more information on this valid concern|1 TicToc and WiFi has been our saving grace so far|1 say goodbye to her like you may never see her again maybe that will do it|1 Sorry Im just so angry for these poor people Its gross All of it is so grossThis is exactly the emotion you should be feelingThe old economic order is dead but the corporates will try to reinstate authoritarian capitalism a system that will be inadequate to serve the needs of those financially wiped out and physically disabled and there will be a lot of newly disabled people postCOVID because respiratory illnesses are fucking nasty by the pandemic They will exploit our desire for everything to go back to normalWe need to fight them The system doesnt work This isnt 911 or Katrina This is corporate capitalisms Chernobyl and we need to make sure it ends global corporate capitalism just as Chernobyl ended the Soviet Union Its time in the US to build a modern economic system based on principles of rationality that is socialism and ditch this garbage mightmakesright feudalism|0 Still better than the alternative|1 Lol right Its so crazy the way they word shit I know they have to but it tends to start making us all think that they think were complete morons|0 Or no eyebrows and those all black eyes looking creepy too|0 I completely agree there Ive left the Pentecostal churches a while ago because even the better ones had a ton of loons in them and because I couldnt even find scriptural backing for half their ideas despite the fact they claim to follow a literal teaching of it I switched over to Baptist churches not nlthat I think Baptists arw pwrdect either but mainly because I dont want anymore suprises The groupthink among Pentecostals can get pretty bad but youre right that this is present in any idealogical group|1 Same problem San Fran is about to have|0 Its better than no people recovering At least some people are actually living|1 Finally these are some facts that have been well known in China one month ago and used to back up their quarantine decision|1 Rick Scott stole money and Gillum was literally caught drunk in a room with someone doing meth Ill take this over that Floridas choice of govenors has always been terrible I had my reservations of DeSantis with him being so ProTrump before elected but since being elected he has distanced himself and fought for higher teachers wages of which my mom is a teacher|0 Well tbf its only 270 people at this point compare that to the amount of people with terminal cancer and how many terminal patients make YouTube vlogs Not many there has been a few PeeWeeToms is one that comes to mind My point is that even something as widespread as terminal cancer generally doesnt give people the inspiration to share their story with the world and theres a lot more of those people compared to corona patients But youre right I do think eventually we will see some already existing you tubers catch the disease and we will get a true representation of how it effects people on a day to day basis|0 Yeah cause his old dumb ass would really know what to do How could he hel us What has he ever done for anyone his entire carrier He use to live on welfare Old dumb ass socialist You know in socialist countrys you are denied care if your age and sickness are at a certian point Ie cancer at 85 yrs oldno treatment|0 I should be able to work from home but my company isnt letting us all yet until all some other employees can work from home and they test their damn VPN Its frustrating a bit|0 YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE DELEGATE|0 Not really which is very disconcerting considering the alarming amount of people who recklessly break voluntary selfisolation|0 Sounds like youre well prepared Best of luck to you and hope everything works out all right|1 Havent Pangolins been ruled out againFromhttpvirologicalorgttheproximaloriginofsarscov2398 In addition the pangolin CoV does not carry a polybasic cleavage site insertion For a precursor virus to acquire the polybasic cleavage site and mutations in the spike protein suitable for human ACE2 receptor binding an animal host would likely have to have a high population density to allow natural selection to proceed efficiently and an ACE2 gene that is similar to the human orthologueIf the author of that post is correct and its not Pangolin but closely related to Pangolins available in large numbers and sold at a market that sell unusual meat then well have to look at Carnivora that is to say cats and dogs|1 I mean yeah This seems to be the majority of cases its honestly a bit surprising this even made news|1 Its not racist because its not referencing ehnicity or even nationality Thats the racist comments Someone can be ethnically Chinese but not be a national Someone can be a Chinese national living elsewhere who hasnt even visited Hell most people who would be posting are Reddit are likely to be white Americans Studies have been done that have showed its harder to differentiate between other races So you cant just tell by looking at someone that theyre a Chinese national or even ethnically Chinese all that reliably Thats why racist claims were made Bc most people were referring to avoiding people of Chinese raceethnicity Not to mention all the expats and tourists you could come into contact with Most people werent concerned about them Foreignersbc they cant ban Americans from entering their home who have visited China So it could be Chinese Japanese German British Canadian Doesnt matter If you visited China we cannot let you in|1 A small country like Norway got 100 cases straight back from vacation in Italy mostly from the not so infected yet areas Seems their testing is faaar behind|1 Its obviously a joke dude Tf|1 ELI5 please|1 No shit If its that important then history if not the present will absolve you Simply spouting that there is an awful secret but I cant tell you merely fosters discontent and conspiracy theories|0 Its like they needed to say hey this is an unknown and we want to protect America Theres nothing to panic about yet BUT out of an abundance of caution if you CAN work from home you SHOULD|1 Chicago banned all court ordered evictions for 60 I believe its now 60 was 30 but they extended it daysThat being said scream at your state to halt all mortgages and ALL debts including rent for at minimum one month I am a bartender and my roommate works at a theater We are both now laid off until this shutdown is lifted We have both applied for unemployment but the system actually crashed yesterday and was down for hours due to so many people applying simultaneously Its bad out there guys|0 This pretty amazing Could be cheaper than lawsuits|1 Unfortunately you are correct The bottom line is all that they care about How about a bail out for the American people on the lines of the bank and car manufacturer bail outs of 08 Surely we could print some more money like we did then|1 Reds always wanted to bring humanity to helli guess they succeed this time|1 That game is rigged Mexico|0 Gee I wonder how people got such a crazy ideahttpswwwsciencenewsorgarticlecoronavirusdogpethongkonginfectionThis sub was in love with that possibility despite zero evidenceYep zero evidence well except for that dog that tested positive This is good news that the dog in Hong Kong was a fluke but it wasnt a crazy rumor with zero evidence|1 Careful Pence will tell his Mother on you|1 Odds are pretty high for many people that someone in your family or friends is in a high risk group I wont die and will likely have mild symptoms Another family member has a compromised immune system and another has to visit the hospital in a few weeks|1 Dumb accusations|0 Its a shit show Advice has been changing since day 1 of the plan too much focus on trackable cases even when we had the first nontraceable case no social security to people who should be isolating straight away and this is what happensI imagine Parliament wont be meeting in the chamber for a while|0 Its aerosolized This lets it be airborne on a small scale Its not some roving cloud of toxins Its a fog of death It wont travel all that far|0 There are countries that will suffer much more than the US Consider yourself lucky|0 Happy cake day|1 Thank you for isolating yourself|1 Funny how celebrities get tested with no symptoms but folks with actual symptoms get denied a test|0 You take a solid flu vaccine you dont think that could have an impact or much of an impact on coronaVaccine Which will do nothing|0 Its just the flu bro kid is gonna be really shocked when he finds himself drowning in his own lung fluid in the waiting room because the hospitals are loaded to capacity|0 Because Trump made a lot of roll backs on the ACA It also allowed junk insurance companies to spring up which is about as good as no insurance at all worse actually Because you still pay for a premium but you literally get no coverage and they dont find this out until it gets to that point|0 May have to do something with blood clotting group 0 has a lower risk for thromboembolic events Elevated Ddimers also seem to play a role in COVID19 outcomes as they point to thromboembolic events or organic failure It would also be interesting to investigate weather common SNPs such as FVL play a role such as in predicting BETTER sepsis outcomes|1 People under 40 who are otherwise healthy suffer from influenza induced pneumonia and organ failure leading to death Its obviously not the most common age group who die from influenza but it does occur Also a lot of people also dont understand that the flu is not the common cold The flu will make you immobile for a week w intense fever headache and body aches|0 Absolutely nothing wrong with this comment Youve done your bit youve tried Ignore the hate|0 Unlikely they know anything as central Gov decides but a little forward planning goes a long way good on them proactive|1 Typical leftist smugness If you actually look at my post nowhere did I defend Trump or say we dont need testing But youre so oblivious to reality it permeates what seems to be youre very limited rationality and ability to critically think No amount of bitching reposts of the same old drivel and gritting and grinding of teeth will change the fact that testing cannot be done at this point for every human being on earth or this country Be it for equipment facilities manpower or component shortages So while you all spend your time complaining like children others are actually taking action to get things done|0 Did you book through Disney We had to cancel a WDW vacation with only a weeks notice a few years back and got a full refund|0 Dont be scared of that this isnt even close to the end of us honestly|1 I mean poverty and violence in a city is always one bus stop or subway line away sometimes only a block walkx200Bx200BNot worth it no thanks Its not just being victim either its seeing it and having to deal with it Ive been to a lot of big cities i wouldnt live there unless i was rich and anyone who does i find to be insane as the opx200Bx200BCity folk think where I live is insane too so to each their own|0 Wow you summed up my routine perfectly Twitch see if favorite streamer is streaming YouTube|1 Hey I know its dumb but Ive never made iced coffee in my French Im assuming just make the thing and fridge to cool I feel like that its the only way|1 Goddamn it There goes my annual 200 person facetouching competition|0 Im just lost for words surely this cant continue|1 Its the most beautiful containment ever Echoes It was a perfect phone call|1 So being a health care worker makes you immune Are you immune to all infectious deseases or just COVID19 Would you retain your immunity if you switched careers and left health care Or does the immunity only last as long as you work in health care Why hasnt the health care worker immunity happened in other countries Does it only work in the U S What if a Chinese doctor got a job in a US hospital Would they become immune Would they lose their health care worker immunity if they returned to China Will your hospital be writing up this amazing discovery and submitting it to medical journals for publication Why arent they sharing this breakthrough with the rest of the medical community Why dont we just make everyone a health care worker and that will put an end to the outbreakSo many questions Could we get an AMA from the person at your hospital who discovered that health care workers are immune I have a lot more questions|1 Serious question why didnt this happen in Kirkland WA The elderly here give absolutely no fucks about this and life seems like normal like nothing is going on at all|0 I have seen reports from 4 days 625 days Links belowTo be clear i do not think the below equation is a good representation of how the virus spreads but to answer your question2n5 where n is days since the first infectionhttpswwwgeekwirecom2020geneticanalysissuggestscoronavirusinfectionsdoubleeverysixdaysspreadinghundredshttpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle265200146articlehttpswwwprojectsyndicateorgcommentarycovid19datadonotsupportglobalalarmismbyanatolekaletsky202003|1 Assume if its in your county its next door to you only way to protect yourself|1 PANIC BUYING INTENSIFIES|0 Trust your instinct Areas with few positives are due to lack of testing|1 We lived for millions of years without the economy we can do it now too maybe you not because ur lazy but many of us can|1 Yes Very possible|1 This is not true South Korea numbers dont double every 25 days|0 Globalized economy is a net benefit despite the apparent pain of lost jobs its a net gain BUT not when a quintessential trading partner is a dysfunctional corrup oneparty dictatorship|1 Because they know China much better that its not simply black and white about what China has been doing and saying|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 There isnt a cure though Itll be weeks at the best years at the worst The best they could do for him is the worlds most intense battery of drugs ranging from theraflu to the HIV cocktail|1 What is the evidence that ventilation reduces mortality The recent Lancet paper on disease course in Wuhan cases shows ventilation partitioned almost exclusively to nonsurvivors indicating lack of survival benefit or severe misallocation of ventilation to cases that would not benefithttpswwwthelancetcomactionshowPdfpiiS01406736282029305663|0 Its illegal to slaughter dogs in Korea as of 2018httpswwwgooglecomampsamptheguardiancomworld2018jun21killingdogsformeatillegalsouthkoreacourtrules|0 Yes|1 Yes thats what I prepared for The government response will ultimately be rounding up suspected infected and putting them in a quarantine together to live or die with minimal treatment|0 Fever could be one of several things and theres no reason to make assumptions yet rBrashyToner|0 Regarding the two strains article this response was published saying its misinformationhttpvirologicalorgtresponsetoontheoriginandcontinuingevolutionofsarscov2418|0 I believe this is because Italy only tests the severe cases The rate would be lower if they tested identified and included mild or asymptomatic cases who recover if they turn severe they would end up in the existing sample size|0 Guys the real take away is that they have been asymptomatic the whole time How many asymptomatic people do you think are walking about out there right now See And China will not count them as confirmed because they changed how they rate Asymptomatic cases last week They will surely lose track|1 Statistically none of the children are in danger unless they have a preexisting immune deficiency Its more likely the teachers would be at risk|0 If my boss tells me to come despite catching coronavirus with the threat of losing my livlihood I will try to avoid giving it to others but my boss|0 The 3 figure seems to have no factual basis but the cases we have so far seems to be over 10 and if we look at the actual deadsurvived ratio its a whooping 57 but thats unrealistic and its too early to look at that ratioDo note that based on the initial study the december victims were also stable for 8 to 10 days until it took a turn for the worse The current outside china numbers does not seem to give us much info due to being too early and not enough cases|0 Im no expert but I believe this has a lot more to do with the ambient conditions effect on how the virus survives outside the body If you can reduce the amount of time it remains viable after being coughed out of someone then you reduce how quickly it can spread|0 What are your qualifications in epidemiology and infectious diseases OPJust out of interest Youd like us to weigh up the balance of evidence about a course of action so perhaps youd like to qualify your post with your qualifications|1 Hell yeah Give everyone WOW and were set lmao|1 Same I dont go outside lol There will be a time when we will have to and Im scared to be honest Ive heard people on here saying they were at the store and people cough and say Corona without covering their mouth Wtf Were screwed and not in a good way|0 His first thought was tax break for his sons company in the name of tickle down economics aka big bonus for execs when no one is paying attention Its been met with some opposition so the market will continue in turnoil which drives him more crazy Im sure he thinks Corona is a Democrat|1 Because he was given a mix of drugs he takes 200mg hydroxychloroquine daily instead of the usual 400 or 500mgOne other thing to note is that his condition went bad for two to three days before getting better afterwards so the effectiveness should not be that high but works He said he was one of the severe casesAbout other cases I dont know anyone who I can get their prescriptions but when I talked with my dads supervisor nurse in hospital and local pharmacy they said doctors usually prescribe hydroxychloroquine among other drugs|0 The governor is negotiating with the health workers union for day care One reason is the amount of nurses and doctors and hospital employees that have children in the schools They cant stay home if the kids are home They need to goto work|1 I dont have the bravery to do this but I wish someone wouldThe next time someone says the flu is much worse ask them how bad the flu is If they give you a number like 50000 deaths per year or whatever tell them that thats the wrong answer because you need to know how many people are infected before that is meaningful Explain that if 50000 people get the flu and 50000 die thats very different from if 500000000 get the flu and 50000 die After walking them through those stats ask them how many people have died of coronavirus Then ask them how many people got infected Then ask them how those two numbers compareAnd then point out that the flu stat is yearly and the coronavirus stat is monthlyAnd then point out how exponential growth works ie if we see 5000 deaths in march we should not expect to see 5000 deaths in april more like 50000 number probably exaggerated for effect|0 This is the issue Healthcare is about to be overwhelmed and then what Only a lucky few will get then life supportive care needed to beat the virus|1 so happy to live in austria theyre taking great precautions aswell hopefully the rest of the eu follows suit asap|1 OH NO welp It was nice knowing you all You all were great I will miss you all here on reddit|1 Ill ask you a question that will help you understandWhat if you took a random sample of humans today and found that 301 out of 301 humans had COVID19 Would that be good or bad news|0 May be we will see the peak in 23 days Hopefully Problem would be lack of ICU beds for new patients |0 Another reason is SK can isolate those infected people and cut down the infection chain|0 I think its been shown time and time again in the past decade or two that we dont do enough to warrant their attention So the rich keep pushing what they can get away with|1 Great point it still blows my mind though how the CDC came out and said Get Ready but the govt wasnt even ready to start mass testing Ball dropped|1 I miss coherent sentences too I didnt realize how much until now|0 He literally said wash your hands lmao|1 Thanks for alerting me|1 My school has said that when the government tells at risk people to selfisolate that they will be allowed to take time off If you have a humane headteacher it should be the same|0 Mine only has the germs I already have on meThis includes the germs you picked up from touching doorknobs elevator buttons etc So unless you always wash your hands before touching your phone your phone will get infected and potentially reinfect your hands every time you use it|0 Have you seen US meat production How about petting zoos Think it cant happen Swine flu and bird flu came from pigs and birds How many E coli outbreaks have we had here Its better here yes but live animals are a thing Have a dog They get sick too or cat Just because it hasnt happened does not mean it cannot happen|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 That 2 is calculated wacky Thats comparing newly confirmed cases with people who took on average 23 weeks to die Actual mortality will be higher than 2|0 Servers are on reduced wage so they can collect tips but if they need to go on unemployment theyre screwed bc the tips dont countAre you sure about this AFAIK unemployed is based on total declared income not only wages paid So if they declare those tips as part of their income and paid UI taxes they certainly should get UI covering that|0 The amount of times Ive heard its just the flu Infuriates me|0 I am not saying they were No opinion or expertise in this areaI am just asking if this law came about bc culturally Germans had responsibilities to other Germans or if this law was something in reaction to recent Germany history Since UK common law doesnt have this concept and thus it is not a common in English speaking countries I am just curious how this came about Edit This being punished for not helping|0 Its as simple as that they are contradicting what WHO have been saying for literally a month You can contain this virus do not let it spread You cant contain the virus indefinitely You are completely provably wrong The isolation approach taken by other countries is also something you dont understand the point of Sounds like youve constructed a complete nonsense of both in your own head to create yet another good Vs bad narrative I dead to think what else you believe|0 We didnt start the fire is a list of the highlights and lowlights of American history from the end of WW2 Truman to 1989 Tianenmen SquareIf you havent heard of some of the stuff listed you could spend a fair bit on wikipedia reading up on them|1 444 in critical condition Hubei only Yikes|0 Ive been so worried about this I am only first trimester now but during my last pregnancy I got a bad respiratory infection a triage patient coughed directly in my mouth in the second trimester and I was beyond miserable couldnt breathe couldnt sleep vomited multiple times a day from coughing It was the sickest and most miserable I have ever been and it went on for weeks And that never progressed to actual pneumonia I am absolutely petrified at the thought of going through that again let alone worse And that isnt even touching on unknowns about potential effects on the fetus or the course of the pregnancy itself|0 NHS Scotland is able to post the stats on the website of the Scottish Governmenthttpswwwgovscotcoronaviruscovid19 but theres no English government website for Public Health England to use Its an artifact of a poorly thought out devolution processThe overall count for the UK is still published on the UK website but the regional breakdown only applies to Englandhttpswwwgovukguidancecoronaviruscovid19informationforthepublic|0 Haha awesome|1 Not sure what hotel you guys booked but I know a lot of the big ten chains are doing free cancellations for COVID19 I know for a fact were doing it at Hilton Just call and mention the virus and they should let you off scotfree|1 He said n95 masks dont help in the common populace which is correct You need to know how to put them on and take them off Any pictures of any random group of people wearing them will show that people dont know how|0 The back of the clorox wipes says 4 minutes to sanitize and 15 seconds to kill viruses corona and influenza|0 the real question is if he tested negative why wouldnt they say|0 Idk it seems that ALOT of important figures in China are dying Not that the virus doesnt kill but statistically it doesnt really make sense|1 You sound boring as fuck Naturally you should stay home during a pandemic but otherwise Concerts are fun and bring people happiness|1 This is whats happening when the country is run by a whole bunch of incompetent fuckups We are all going to hell in a handbasket|0 Oh wow|1 I thought this sub was to produce scientific information without retribution If the mods allow these types of incendiary comments to persist here then this is not the sub I thought it was and I will unsubscribe|1 For which thesis statement As far as mutations I recommend this peer reviewed paperJournal of Virologyhttpsjviasmorgcontent84199733 AuthorsRafael Sanjun1Miguel R Nebot2 Nicola Chirico3 Louis M Mansky4 and Robert Belshaw51Institut Cavanilles de Biodiversitat i Biologia Evolutiva Departament de Genetica and Unidad Mixta de Investigacin en Genmica y Salud Universitat de Valncia CCatedrtico Agustn Escardino 9 Paterna 46980 Valncia Spain2Instituto de Fsica Corpuscular Universitat de Valncia and CSIC CCatedrtico Agustn Escardino 9 Paterna 46980 Valncia Spain3Department of Structural and Functional Biology Via JH Dunant 3 University of Insubria 21100 Varese Italy4Institute for Molecular Virology Academic Health Center University of Minnesota Minneapolis Minnesota 554555Department of Zoology South Parks Road University of Oxford Oxford OX1 3PS United KingdomOtherwise I can only submit that Ive done what one could describe as an above average amount of reading and a dissertation or two on epidemiology over the past 32 years|1 Downvote and move on Comments like this are not needed|1 Okay twelvie|1 You are completely correct but the ones I have are low wattage used for fish tank water sterilization|0 Thank you so much Its a gorgeous country just like the US which I hope I can visit one day Lets have faith in our governments maybe given the fact that it mostly affects elderly people your president could convince himself Best of luck from Italy and stay safe my friend|1 No one both contracted and died of Ebola virus disease while in the United States httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiEbolaviruscasesintheUnitedStates|0 Every day I wake up and hope Italys numbers have gone down then I see a higher number and remain disappointedIt needs to stop It really needs to stop|0 ya Im in Gatineau too all these cases in quebec with no specified locations makes me nervous|0 I said it was a preprint man not that it was 100 tested and proved I made it clear in my first comment it was a preprint|1 Yeah the ban always allowed Aussie citizens permanent residents and dependents to return to Australia Theyre screened at the airport and expected to selfquarantine for 14 daysThis will be likely be the same for any other country with travel bans an essential part of being a citizen is having the right to return home You could detain and quarantine them once theyre here but you cant say they cant come inI dont know how strict we are being on the selfquarantine There are different levels from saying Plz stay in for 14 days call us if you get sick to giving them a thermometer and asking them to report temperature daily to calling them several times a day to check inBut we want them back NOW Otherwise we have to go get them ifwhen it gets completely out of hand outside Hubei This way they trickle in theyre registered and everyone is on the alert for symptoms Theyll be less of a problem than some unknowing superspreader like the British guy|1 Had to chuckle but you are right Crap collective it is|0 Too tired to do it now So what does it stand for |0 If only a whitecollar job always meant more pay I wish I had studied welding |1 Man every time I see this sub the top comment always sounds like they want this to be badIts always some kind of prophetic comment about how bad it will get or how things will get so much worseWhy Do people here want this to be a global catastrophe|0 This may be complete fiction so please correct if wrong but is there a risk of this virus mutating to become more deadlyI always remember one of the plot points in Contagion was that the virus mutates in the US and begins to kill healthier people is this something we should be concerned about|0 The wealthy are in positions of power the have acquired teams of people that trust and rely on them It doesnt matter if theres 6 billion or 600 million theres always going to be positions of power The difference is that in a world of 600 million the world would likely be a lot more gentle on the planet Less trash less pollution less crowds and less strain on resources Its a lot easier to farm for 600 million in the world than 6 billion I think depopulation naturally by encouraging not breeding is the best course of action for our planet and long term survival of humans and animals I dont think humans are bad I just think modern civilization has allowed the population to run rampant while not putting any controls on it Hell look at China even with the 1 child policy they had they still ballooned out of control India did the same and the middle east is currently following in their footsteps x200BTheres only so many roads you can build and ways to get products to people So somethings gotta give eventually as they arent improving transport speeds fast enough to even keep up with increasing amounts of traffic in even moderately sized cities let alone the larger ones People will sprawl out again but then you just create the same problems in new places|1 Two weeks worth of necessary supplies seems pretty prudent to me Its just an insurance policy Its very unlikely that your house will burn down but youre still going to get fire insurance rightYou can be 99 sure that it wont be necessary and still prepare for that 1 doubt|0 Thats good Im hoping to see more accomodations from the travel industry in the near future Its only a matter of time before more places are asking people to stay at home and cancelling public gatherings|1 Trudeau and our media would rather talk about racism than common sense|0 Make your ownhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvpJaVBt8q6g8 if you cant buy one its better than nothing|1 Do I need to source that whatever the case fatality rate is its higher than the flu whatever the R0 is its higher than the flu theres no coronavirus vaccine developed in humans and theres real risk of ADE if we use a simple inactivated whole virus vaccine and theres no proven antiviralIts just simply not a flu virus Were better prepared for flu viruses|0 Sweden is not doing nothing Stop spreading misinformation|1 I know and I love it I also now love let the genie out of the bag |1 Also you might be sick We dont know if were sick until almost a week after we are shedding virus Everyone should be considered sick|0 Yeah Lately Ive been thinking about how lucky I am that my dad died of cancer when I was young|0 You have it backwards taking more measures would flatten the curve Western governments are not taking action because1 run by boomers2 flat curve requires transparency and honesty which would have more drastic economic impacts They are choosing their investments over saving lives|1 LCBOAsking for a friend|1 If you go the speed limit and have lunch its just under four Maybe the time difference got you I wish I had gotten masks My work hasnt shut down yet|1 Pence is praying Things will be okay as long as we join in|1 Im curious how people are affording to panic purchase large amounts of food and goods while complaining they cant afford to be sent home from work as they are paycheck to paycheck Perhaps these are different groups of people|0 Yeah Alton You are my cooking god Being a bit of a science nerd I never understood cook books until your book Im just here for the Food I always wanted to Thank you so Thank You|1 But I am saying that most people did not have masks before this pandemic So them not buying masks that should be for health workers is a good thing|1 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure but either prevention is a waste of money or it seems like a waste of money|0 Pedal power interface is available but we are still working on the regulator to prevent overpressuring the lungs so for the time being we are including an audiocassette of the BeeGees Popular Music Track Staying Alive to help the pedaller maintain the correct rhythm Please state leg length and number of legs when ordering|1 Proof that the virus has become selfaware We are really screwed now|0 You jumped from talking about the people of Taiwan to all Asians Yeah ok no racism here|0 Well they were elected recently so they dont have to think about their career for the next five years This makes me laugh so hard Since I was born there were like 3 or 4 governments that lasted a whole term|1 Its not really HIPAA that is the main cause although it is a small piece It is more because of the Code of Federal Regulations for things like lab tests If you have any kind of test that is meant to diagnose treat or cure a disease or illness it must be FDA approved or it must meet specific requirements to avoid that approval One such case that you can use is for research purposes where the person provides informed consent and understands that it is experimental Or if they are using anonymized samples and not reporting the results to the patient or using the results to make medical decisions And there are very good reasons to have these regulations Right off the bat the whole Theranos scandal is directly related to this type of legislation If a lab puts out a test but it hasnt been validated then they could be telling you that you have a serious disease when you dont causing you to use risky treatments and spend thousands on care Or they could say you dont have a disease when you do and cost you your life The real problem is that our country did not consider these things before and have a plan to increase the pace in times of crisis for these fast moving viruses This is more a problem of breaking through the bureaucracy than one of straight malice|0 Everywhere else in the world you can get tested except the United States let that sink in|1 Can you believe that back when the threat was lower they claimed it was low and now that its higher theyre saying its higher Fucking unbelievable|0 Straw man argument Youre good at these arent you Im advocating for PPE and your moving the goal post Im not baited This is my last response to you Have a nice life|1 Unclear thus far As states are increasingly allowed to conduct their own tests instead of sending it to the CDC lab it may depend on testing capacity specific to each state Its unsure whether well just end up with a big backlog of cases or if the states the public labs and private contractors will be able to produce and process the tests in a timely fashion Well probably see states hand out some basic guidelines to their doctors in order to avoid an avalanche of testing requests Is there a specific reason you want the test I feel like a doctor would only order the test if you had close contact with a known case could identify potential exposure Ie theyve been releasing where some cases had been prior to diagnosis or had at least flulike symptoms|1 funny how every celebrity who gets this is perfectly finethey are lying to prevent panic|1 Lol only on Reddit do I see constant boot licking for China thinking|1 I agree And I have also been here since the beginning watching the escalation I will be glad if it doesnt happen though|1 You cant I have 4 kids and myself Im hoping the cold weather holds bc a lot of my stuff is outside|1 white flags begging the virus for mercy Like the japanese in the fifties|1 I used to be a very anxious person If anyone out there reads this really try to focus on what you can control and put your safety ahead of the interests of others They might not have your best interests and often arent the same Whether a shit show or not you control your actions Do your best If you dont need to work dont If you dont need to visit old relatives then dont Ask yourself if you need to be in person for this task you are about to do If the answer is no then dont do it in person and just be safe especially if in a cityRemember counted positive does not mean infected Not everyone has terrible reactions Older people are especially of concern or diabetics like my grandmother I have her on house quarantine and away from her church until things are clearer and more resolved|1 Yeah thats what we need during this time Coffee Minimum wage jobs and coffee The virus doesnt stand a chance For fuck|0 Does your dog just look at you quizzically as youre rolling in cow shit|0 Definitely Its overwhelming at this point Im hoping theres something we could do to help|1 Precisely Ive been laughed at my friends family spouse for two months now Well whos laughing now|1 Are you aware that mike pence has a terrible history when it comes to dealing with epidemics like HIV Hes also a certified moron|0 Here in the philippines 7 out of 10 people has mask now Almost everyone is wearing one in the mall Does this mean that If i go to america and I wear a mask ill be frowned upon|0 Oh no I better put the crack pipe down jk but yeah duh smoking is bad period and even worse with this shit spreading|0 Only because manufacturing in China isnt cheap anymore Theyve become a superpower and with that average wages have risen Now with the shale production in the US were back on an even playing field as far as wages vs cost of manufacturing goes So they seek the next third world regions|1 My grandad is 90 cancer bowel cancer aneurysm in his chest so bad its growing OUTSIDESage to say Impretty worried about him Hes very stern and old fashioned so normally ignores all shit like this Never does what I tell him because why she he listen to his 30 year old grand daughter when he was in the merchant navy right So I thought all advice would fall of deaf ears thankfully hes listened to me he sees it too and Ive been drip feeding him leaked china videos fromwuhan etc Since jan because I was keeping him up to date with the HK protests Hes cancelled his blood tests and isnt leaving his house I havent been to see him in 2 weeks now but speak EVERYDAY on whatsapp The issue is my mum and younger brother The live just down the road from him too theyre both still going to work my mumworks at a very busy petrol station on a motorway and she visits him every day Neither mum nor brother will listen even if they do think its just flu they know just flu could kill him too Ive had quite a bug falling out with them both and have basically said if he gets this and dieds I will never forgive either of them Ive not seen him for 2 weeks neither has my son because I want him to bloody survive they dont seem to care All because they want that paycheck Fyi my brothers iob is non essential He has no rent or mortgage no car his phone is paid for by my mum but still everyday going to work in the public and share it with my grandad|0 Factor in a relatively safe and effective treatment option for modsevere cases and lemme know how that changes things There may be some reasonable options to choose fromEdit also it looks like immunity after infection is a thinghttpswwwbiorxivorgcontent10110120200313990226v1|1 It feels like its so obvious but even some people in this sub deny they workI think we have a mask shortage so the government is trying to spread that they dont work saving them for medical staff Sounds like a conspiracy theory but Im afraid it might be true|0 Ebola is way easier to contain|1 Sound great until you accidentally contract coronavirus on the flight there|1 You know I have to be honest the last few years that led up to this shitstorm and Im sitting here very very angry and my friends and coworkers will tell you as a Buddhist I normally am one of the calmest I honestly hope this enrages some people and motivates them to get involved and hold electedofficials feet to the fire literally if necessary Weve seen a few examples over the past few years of Interviews or ethical officials fighting hard but we need more warriors A lot of the criminals and grifters think if they move fast enough or talk smooth enough or deny repeatedly enough that theyll never get caught or that it will take a long time They may be right but we should shorten and harshen that outcome|0 Yes but the major difference here from Ebola is that the epicenter is now in China the worlds most populous country and one which poses particularly acute complexity due to a whole myriad of issues most in the West who know nothing about China naively underestimate The capacity for this thing to spread is absolutely massive in comparison to Ebola Unlike SARS which was contained in a much tighter region and when there were relatively much fewer Chinese roaming abroad the reach of the new coronavirus will extend to every corner of the globeThe incentive for local provincial officials to lie to the central government on fear of punishment for bearing bad news the strict penalties put in place for citizens expressing criticisms or exposing truths the eight hour delay of enforcing the quarantine on Wuhan the arrogant denial of the viruss capacity to spread from human to humanall of this several weeks before the official quarantineallowed this thing to get much worse than it needed be Chinese citizens themselves are rightly pissed off that their government has basically allowed the infected to wander to every province of China and these citizens face up to seven years of prison for expressing these criticisms People in China being unable to directly criticize those who allowed this to happen will inevitably search for scapegoats as people do everywhere and thus many innocent people will die due to the hysteria It is not uncommon for doctors in China to be stabbed if a loved one dies under their careregardless of whether it was their fault There is an incentive to project blame into something as a result of being unable to unleash it elsewhere We will likely see more of this The doctors themselves are on the frontlines of hell and will be treated like cannon fodder by the government being under equipped One thing is for certain those responsible for allowing this to spread will never apologize to the world or the people of China They will attempt to cover it up with ostentatious displays of power that ultimately mean nothing and will do little to help the situation now that the horse has left the barn This situation is unlike the Ebola or SARS crisis for the very reason we are talking about China in 2020 not China of the early 2000s The unique problems posed by China at this time are usually completely missed by anyone unfamiliar with how it actually handles problems of this nature and the amount of influence it now exerts over the globe to accommodate its always special needs which was evident in the WHOs obsequious kowtowing to the Chinese government for days ahead of finally announcing the emergency The United States has been similarly meek and slow to respond to this gates should have been closed days ago at the least Again for those who understand how China works in its own xenophobic approach to the world they would know China would be the first to close its own gates to passengers coming from a country known to be carrying a disease of this sort But the doublestandard prevails and the world must treat China as if it were special even when it would not extend the favor if it were on the other end of the bargain This is the nature of how things work in terms of international relations with China I do worry about the xenophobic backlash against Chinese Since most Americans are ignorant of anything beyond its borders let alone Asia many of them will lump all East Asians into one category and equally treat them poorly But you can bet the same thing would happen in China tenfold toward foreigners should they be associated with a country carrying a virus like this 100 This does not excuse the behavior It does suggest nobody in this is innocent I have a Chinese significant other home for the holiday shut in at in her small Ningbo home I also have several friends in China whom I worry about This is a unique situation and should not be compared to previous outbreaks It may be less severe or more in the end but collapsing these virus outbreaks down into conceptual categories betrays a mental distortion that smells to me like a defense mechanism to avoid the complex truth of the situation|0 For anyone else curious here is a table of other past diseases with their R0 readingshttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiBasicreproductionnumber|1 Pretty sure thats a leftover joke about Irish people from when people were super prejudiced against them and not because it was an actual traditionLike in boot camp if you had a stray string on your uniform it was called an Irish pendent|1 Why do that when we can watch the sick citizens scramble to work more hours to pay MORE money Edit s|0 Thank You Yep Im a dedicated Walmart shopper in California This is a great tip because that is very convenient and perhaps would be an OK size to try out Thank you for helping out very appreciated|1 Theres actually been plenty of good news this subreddit just likes focusing on the bad news|1 Okay I see I asked because I wonder if you knew where your phone was manufactured and how globalism contributed to you having a phone|1 No and yesIt takes 3 weeks to die from this overly simplistic model I know So todays 9000 infected means 100 dead in 3 weeks time And most of them have no symptoms yet|0 201920 Wuhan coronavirus outbreakThe 201920 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak formally the outbreak of novel coronavirus 2019nCoV is an ongoing viral epidemic primarily affecting mainland China along with isolated cases in 28 other countries and territories In early December 2019 a new coronavirus designated 2019nCoV was identified in Wuhan the capital of Chinas Hubei province after 41 people developed pneumonia without a clear cause The virus which causes 2019nCoV acute respiratory disease is capable of spreading from person to person The incubation period time from exposure to onset of symptoms ranges from 2 to 14 days but it may be contagious during this period and after recovery PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Love in the time of corona|1 And thats a good thing|1 Definitely Desperate times call for desperate measures|0 Those peaks are literally the same two times I got super sick pretty interesting I wonder if any of those peaks were due in any part to coronavirus|1 this a stressful time to buy a house|0 Oh good to know its all under control Now I dont have to hear all the whining about the lack of masks which the government has plenty of Im sure|1 Totally fair I think we should be putting in place severe measures I think Im just getting oversensitive because upvoted comments in Corona subs tend to be the MOST alarmist It reminds me of how in politics subs ProBernie things always make it to the top|1 Can confirm I am a hospital physician There has been no communication or preparation Things are business as usualEdit in retrospect the hospital may have preparations in place behind the scenes but I know my hospital administration and I think it is highly improbable|0 This may not be a reliable source Please resubmit your post with a link to an internationally recognized news organization or an recognized institution Note that you may also resubmit as a text post add the link and explanatory text Always add a translation when posting Chinese articlesIf you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for your cooperation|1 NYC has only tested 35 people and they have 22 confirmed cases 35 out of 20 million In a city where most people take subways busses and cabs British Columbia 5m people in an area larger 2 Californias has tested over 1000 people more than double what the entire US has tested afaik and only found 21 Yall are fucked neighbour|0 As a dictator you could just not give a fuck since youre pretty much in the most secured place The thing is in NK the leadership takes their peoples health seriously I dont get that feeling in Germany rn since there are still flights from IranItaly landing without any health check or followup But hey they already got a conjuncture plan in place|1 Im surprised there arent more volunteering opportunities Im young and healthy and working from home with no real work to do Feels like a waste I would definitely volunteer to help out in the community if there was something organised that I know would make a difference|1 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Maybe she could ask the doctor if a corticosteroid inhaler would be a good idea|1 Great linkConclusionsSignificanceAny type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection|0 They are so nice to their slaves|1 I guess we all die then|0 i find it hard to believe that they wouldnt I mean there is Fauci he is in his 80s he is invaluable how devastating would it be to lose any of these people to infection of the very thing they are fighting|0 The things that all the locals are saying have not been proved in a peer reviewed study yet so it is 100 false and since its false there is no reason to even consider preparationGovernments|0 Iran is a dump People stay home You will be fine|0 Even without meaningful Ontario data today Canada is still continuing exponential growth 34 over yesterday Friggin brutalNot a chance theres nothing new in the GTA and Im skeptical about lack of cases in Ottawa|0 What better place to hunt for new virus strains than in a city with open air live animal markets and poor sanitation You could probably even secretlyaccidentally release an engineered strain in such a place and no one would be able to prove it wasnt a natural occurance|0 I read comments yesterday from people in Milan that stated they were still able to leave their homes and go about their daily business as usual even after the last decree Are you in Italy yourself and if so can you comment on this|0 Team B for the win|1 They figure it out like all parents who still have to work|1 Thank you|1 If it only infected the idiots doing this we might be better off but sure enough theyll spread it to some poor pensioner just trying to buy milk at the grocery store|0 Thank you for helping us learn what is happening in Iran|1 The CDC arent on TV every day begging for cash like a In the Arms of an Angel ASPCA commercial unlike the WHO|1 Residents spend that long awake due to vestigial traditions of their training Recent limitations on hours are trying to combat that Any full surgeon or attending physician spending that long awake isnt doing so because they see themselves as gods on a pedestal its because theyre underresourced and overworkedBut I dont think people are choosing to not vaccinate kids because their doctor is tired|0 Right and a bad flu season already can put enough stress on hospitals Throwing in another easily transmitted disease without nearly as much available and proven treatments would be a nasty wrench to throw into the mix|0 Both of my kids got RSV 4ish years ago The oldest still has reactive airways because of it and the youngest who was a newborn at the time almost died I think the trauma of going through that with them is where most of my fear stems from I cant watch my kids choke on their own mucus again|0 a governments sole purpose is to protect its citizens I disagree with the president completely and condemn the action but I completely understand it|0 Socialism Oh wait This is a good thing Maybe we could have health care like that too|1 I take it the viral marketing has been good for business|1 It doesnt feel like its the same but I certainly hope Im wrong|1 Theres also video of him wiping his nose with his hand then immediately shaking someones hand|1 Yuuuuuuuup Im pretty sure this is 99 of reactions I had the flu for the first time a few years ago in college I was barely 20 incredibly healthy and I literally thought I might die with a 103 degree fever and body aches so bad I could barely move I was one of those assholes who every time I had a temperature said I had the flu Holy shit it is NOT the same|0 Hahaha not edgy at all Just think all this doom and gloom is a bit much for me This is going to be a dogshit few months Lets have a laugh instead of flinging more shit at each other|0 japan and corea are ahead of us in number of reported cases i ment|1 I dont understand what eugenics are but I like putting the term in my wild tin foil hat level conspiracy theories so I sound smarter|1 Link says to give an annual contribution if you are using an adblockerI take it that the fake news is now seeing itself as saintly and you need to contribute instead of paying lol|0 Better to let people die then Hope all that companies leadership needs them but the hospital says All I got are these 3d printed ones because you were a cunt Guess Ill give it to someone WORTH saving|0 I was looking at GuangDong on the Johns Hopkinshttpsgisanddatamapsarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 dashboard and they had 141 recovered and only 1 death Whatever they are doing must be working well it gives me hope that this virus isnt so dangerous IF your hospitals arent overwhelmed|1 Faker is an international treasure|1 At this point the fact shes even arguing is downright comical Her daughter should have booked a flight out of there as soon as Wuhan was locked down like anyone with common sense would have doneI guess all the State department travel advisories in the world cant fix stupid|1 Fellow plane commuter herealthough usually one return trip a month Ive been at work the last 3 weeks in London and ready to fly home go Germany in a few days When I get home Im going to have to think long and hard about my working arrangements as it doesnt seem safe anymore its the public transport on either sideplus planes and airport just just all seem so dirty Full of people with no matters of hygiene What are your plans|0 Just as number of cases is systematically under reported I think mortality rates are systematically underreported for the same reason lack of testing I dont understand how cause of death can be attributed to SARSCoV2 covid19 coronavirus if no testing has been done for it Why wouldnt secondary conditions be attributed as cause of death in many undetected covid19 cases|0 It can permanently damage lung tissue stop being a complete moron|0 My god I was just in OHare two days ago I was flying domestically but still it wasnt like this|0 l vem o arrombado fdp que no liga para os crimes do pt|0 An ancient beast that ducked down for almost twenty years then we stuck our head in the sand and dug our graves with it|0 Individual choice but also deeply cultural Even outside of flu season and before the virus some people would wear a mask in public placesWe have to buy them ourselves Theres a bit of a shortage and when there is stock theres limits on how many you can buy But no body seems to desperate for them so far The government recently also introduced a new law that harshly punishes anyone trying to profit from buying extra and selling for a profit|0 Only 1 of the couple will come out of quarantine alive|1 Yeah Im relatively confident in my ability to avoid infection in my day to day at work Im a germ freak avoid touching my face wash hands for a full 30 seconds use way too much sanitizer But when I get home its harder to keep the germs off when you have a 1 and 3 year old And a wife who is a high school teacher|1 I know its almost like theyve had some sort of ational quarantine lockdown to prevent the virus spreading or something|1 80 proof is 40 alcohol and will NOT catch on fire|1 Agreed definitely possible but also not necessarily the case either All depends on who was on and the culture at that individual facility Could have been a competent alert and caring nurse on 73 and then a real dud on 311 and mediocre on 117 thats sixteen hours of poor oversight even if the rest of the facility is decent|1 I miss ChickfilA already Shit Ive been getting groceries delivered and no restaurants the past month or two and I finally told my work to frig off But ahhhh|0 Yes it would|1 Cruises are not that expensiveLower middle class can easily afford them once a year or so|1 But please give his poor voice a rest That man is a national treasure|1 Yes and thats exactly the predicament All the scaremongers on here saying nobodys getting tested yeah its complicated Like you need to set up the mobile secure testing sites before you put out the call to get people tested you DO NOT WANT corona folks in the hospitals and doctors offices|1 Fuck approval and just test and report Simple Point fingers after|0 That navy hospital sounds like a great idea Are they allowed to do that For some reason I thought only National Guard was allowed to serve domestically|1 Im a teacher Last Friday we had a PD day no students I kept asking everyone what were doing and what the plans are for if we have to cancel and if we will make up a n the summer like snow days or if we will go online Apparently they got annoyed with me and told me I need to stop worrying about it The admin team didnt even meet until after I sent an email to my principal because our district had sent an email to parents saying we had online capabilities without havent consulted the teachers and principals|0 Thanks|1 only been 2 daysTell that to the workers who didnt get a pay check for Friday or wont get one this weekend since the only reason owners will do it is for press coverage they wont get that on the weekend|1 one joke|1 Oh God isnt this a monkey wrench This would add so much confusion to the testing kits their viability|0 Some people kicking off on fB about it our surgery normally has appointments every day if you ring early It is very easy to see our GP so this is a bit of a shock locally I absolutely agree that we need to keep our front line professionals as safe as possible and thank you for the work you are doing What is your procedure for UTIs I get them on a regular basis and will no doubt need antibiotics whilst Covid19 is in circulation|1 If even a single medical staff catches and dies from coronavirus assuming they didnt have a mask at some point wouldnt that justify at least felony manslaughter for the thiefI would have to think the thief knows that taking those masks will expose medical staff and their patients to the virus and that it would justify criminal prosecutionSmall consolation to the victims you guys and patients but its something If such a charge would be possible maybe informing the police would be a good idea If warrants are issued in time and they can narrow down suspects maybe they can find the thief and get some of the masks back in timeIdk im not a cop or a lawyer Im just firing thoughts off the top of my head Whoever did this is a fiend no doubt|0 Cool story bro Until now all the numbers that China has given are very close to the numbers we are seeing on the west The rest of your post is just political propangada|1 That would be a really bad idea The vast majority of experts believe that laws against price gouging are harmfulhttpwwwigmchicagoorgsurveyspricegougingThats because high prices are an essential way to ensure that resources get where they are desperately needed Imposing artificially low prices creates shortages of vital supplies and makes it harder for people to recover from disasters The impulse to denounce the greed reflected in such prices is human But price hikes are a response to scarcity and signals that reveal the true severity of scarcity are critical during storms and other crises Price hikes let consumers know that fuel is scarcer than it was Price hikes prompt consumers to use fuel more judiciously buying less gasoline than they would at a lower price They take fewer unnecessary trips diminishing pressure on supplies Price hikes also create a financial incentive for suppliers from outside the area to move their product into highdemand zones As supplies return to normal so do pricesPrice Gouging After a Disaster Is Good for the Publichttpswwwwsjcomarticlespricegougingafteradisasterisgoodforthepublic1507071457To be clear marketclearing prices are not always best In emergency situations very high prices can end up placing too many critical resources in the hands of the wealthy Sometimes rationing can be fairer and promote human happinesshttpscheaptalkorg20121029pricegouging Nonetheless the balance of argument does favor allowing and indeed encouraging higher prices in most emergency situations If the store doesnt raise prices attentive customers may buy up the whole stock resell it during the emergency and price gouge themselves Or store employees may funnel the scarce goods to their friends and relatives Dont think the alternative to corporate price gouging is necessarily a fairer outcome but that subtle point doesnt always translate well to social media The higher prices if they can be done without bad publicity encourage stores to have more emergency supplies on hand in the first place They also create an incentive for people to bring in more of the scarce resources from outside When Hurricane Katrina created problems with the power supply in Mississippi one entrepreneur drove in 19 generators and tried to sell them for twice the normal price He was arrestedhttpwwwfoxnewscomopinion20121101inpraisepricegouginghtml spent four days in jail and his generators were confiscated Did that help anyonePrice Gouging Can Be a Type of Hurricane Aidhttpswwwbloombergcomopinionarticles20170905pricegougingcanbeatypeofhurricaneaid|0 what it is like in wuhan right nowhttpstrithucvnnetvideostonghoptinhcanhthethamcuanhungnguoinhiembenhtaivuhanhtml|1 Windows Defender will take care of it|1 WowI wonder how it feels living in a country with competent leaders|1 There was a connection between H1N1 susceptibility and previous exposure to related viruses In time it wouldnt surprise me if some population groups were more naturally suited to fight this due to partialimmunity as a result of previous exposure|0 Nice There is better and better porn coming from China|1 Exactly I dont think this kind of estimation could tell us a max figure but might be helpful in finding a minimum|1 Wild that China and Hubei are still key elements there when we have that case in the UK where a guy picked it up in Singapore WEEKS ago Travelled to France to visit friends at a ski resort before traveling home All the while he felt fine He then had some time in UK life as usual went to pubs etc before finally getting unwell and being diagnosed nCoVThat person infected 7 people in France 5 still in France one returned to UK and one went on to Spain and we know of 4 other people he infected back in the UK making him a super spreaderBut the key fact is that he picked up nCoV weeks ago and not in China at all He never went to China and its confirmed he got it in SingaporeThat was the factor behind the NHS changing advice to include other countries as a risk element Appreciate it has no link to USA but youd imagine the fact it hit us from Singapore the US would consider a wider range of risk countries|0 It is During spanish influenza many died from cytokine storms that killed so fast they went from no symptoms to dead in 12 hoursCould also be heart inflammation causing heart attacks in people predisposed to heart issues even if they appear outwardly healthy|0 Thanks I hope you find them helpful|1 Every single person on board with towns in transitions does and parties who generally dont get the votes will be urging their voters to go sweep what votes were left to take between the usual unconcerned lot and the covidscared lot So we might end up with idiotic right wing delusional dudes destroying yet more nature just because were not brave enough to look reality eye to eye and act on itIn fact Im hoping the towns in transition movement will help turn this election into something meaninglful for once Its an anticollapse prorelocalizing and prorewilding movement if youve never heard of it the kind that gets your citys lawnmowers replaced by sheep|0 I hope they also have measures to keep utilities on or provide debt relief for those who fall behind because of this Funding directly can only go so far I cant imagine how stressful this is for those affected|1 so OK doomer|1 Americans are finally getting a glimpse of what has really been going on behind the scenes which has been nothing We had since the beginning of January to go allin and start preparing getting test kits produced in mass quantities and 1000 other moving parts figured out on a national state and regional level Nothing was really done in all of January all of February and first part of March We had a window of opportunity to really stay on top of this with massive testing contact tracing shutting down cruises limiting flights and other travel and quarantines Literally every single ball was dropped everywhere Not just nationally but many states are dealing with the same fate not taking this seriously when it was obvious exactly what was coming to the US Instead most turned a blind eye for political and financial reasons I pray for this country and the world every night Population wise the US is probably in the worst shape of any country in the world depending on where everything goes with India over time with COVID19Yet the Trumper Humpers I have overheard are talking about how this is merely a democratic ploy to undermine the presidency|0 Ive started to notice a lot of things that I didnt before Like bags of rice or even pizza rolls I checked about 10 different bags of each and every single one had holes that went straight through to the product Talk about yikes|0 Masks are a proactive measure You cant be proactive when you are the initial epicenter|1 Love how hes not wearing gloves Nice|1 No the US did|0 Hopefully Its a good indicator of how widespread it is because sadly rich and famous people are the ones getting tested Its important data|1 three If phase III passes then the drug is approved for ordinary use|1 I know a college student that had a cytokine storm to the common flu that passed I have read about people in their 40s suffering the same fate and have heard of children having them Not so much elderly The elderly have sadly the brunt of pneumonia complications We all need to just practice excellent germ precaution as if your life depended on it and not as if you may get a cough or sniffle until we know more statistically about this virus IMHO|0 An interest rate that was massively below market for the time but sure lets pretend they didnt get an enormous government subsidy|1 Millions of us are about to know that feeling|1 bro at this point i think almost all the major countries of europe barring perhaps uk are in deep trouble|0 Lol|1 Flybe was doomed it had almost collapsed earlier in the year already|0 I know that theory was a strong word imho|1 There are many things america does in a way that does not make sense and should be fixed For example forcing employers to pay social contribution for all workers instea dof only full time workers would kill the whole lets employ you for 35 hours so we get to pay no social contributions and you end up paying for everyting yourself thats very popular nowadays|0 I could never do Calculus online so I have no ideaI did this with a nutrition course LolI can only speak from my experience But yeah they were jerks about my eyes not staying on the screen We did have some simple math we had to use the calculator onscreen they provided|0 This hasnt even convinced my parents to take it seriously Do you REALLY think these huge companies want to miss out on money Do you think the NCAA wants to miss out on its biggest money making tournament ITS NOT A FREAKING HOAX I just cant deal anymore|1 Plus bats are aesthetically dope and cute|1 Like I said I do try to control it but I have bad moments like now and I just wanted a place to vent|0 They have beer and slushies with booze added tequila or vodka iirc I think its margarita and pina colada flavored slushies but Im not sure about that|0 I never claimed he did He just blabbered out some nonsense and used the term hoax in an unclear way when addressing a deadly pandemic that hadnt arrived fully yet Words are important for the president and his stupidity caused damage as it frequently does|0 It only emptied my bank account|0 The NHS is not a global organisation thankfully The failure of the NHS has limited our options during this crisis Every death in the UK will be the fault of the NHS Individual practitioners nurses doctors etc are guilty of protecting their jobs at the expense of our health As far as Im concerned they are the enemy now and we should not show them any mercy|0 We shouldnt shame idiots for being idiots We should however shame those who have idiots a venue to act on their idiocy Those idiots arent just hurting themselves|1 Its a big company next to Morrisons and Asda Your so lucky my shop would never close no matter what happens My friend who is above me is going to try speak to our manager today because she also agrees there should be more safety measures in place Just giving us hand sanitiser isnt enough Im 23 with a 1 year old and my grandmas about to self isolate and I help her out by getting her shopping and cleaning her house especially now that she cant order home delivery with all the bulk buyers|1 Hi everyoneIm a student from a Masters degree course on Communication Management based in Milan ItalyWere assigned with building a report on worldwide opinion regarding coronavirusYour opinions can help us better study this difficult situation Efficient communication during these times proves to be both difficult and crucialIf you have a minute to spare it would be really great if you could answer this brief survey on the situation Obviously answers are completely anonymous Thank you for your timehttpsdocsgooglecomformsde1FAIpQLScT6oLyjRfcZZl7Kh3CLO1mLnaj8qEdgyTqNLV9HVMGX39gMgviewform|1 My boss met with a doctor like this to discuss Covid19 and he came back had a meeting with our team and downplayed it to us as being no worse than the flu Now all my coworkers are taking it even less seriously than before|0 Rich peopleceleb bet get the best treatment|1 Yep we got this guys We were meant to prepare and we did For whatever reason we are all exactly were we are meant to be at this moment We got this|1 People were busy criticising Chinese draconian laws and making up conspiracy theories that the virus was being used as an excuse to infectimprisonkill political dissidents Some were even saying that this was a Chinese method of population control because of their ageing population|0 More importantly whos this Count Olaf looking motherfucker in the photo|0 Wow thats sweet|1 Bill Gates is a good man We need more people like him|1 Seattlearea will be next I feel like|1 Lots of jobs are utterly pointless and meaningless Theres even a whole sitcom about it you might have heard of called The Office|0 I saw the UK video with Boris and it was definitely herding What exactly are you saying is wrong with calling it that|0 Its basically a confirmed case They will have run their own test before results from Winnipeg come in for double confirmation and they would not have made this announcement without some solid evidence that this is ncov|0 Im sure the downfall in the stock markets has nothing to do with CEOs selling stocks to go hide in a bunker for the next 6 months|1 I mean you cant effectively do both at the same time So either you are halfassing your job or its very easy or ignoring your kid|0 Star Wars Celebration too|0 some authorities recommend against ithttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovaboutpreventiontreatmenthtml while some suggest doing sohttpswwwinfogovhkgiageneral20200228P2020022800752htmfontSize1 Both authorities recommend the exact same thing wearing a mask in public if you are having symptoms|1 Bay Area CA Just got lockdown last night Supposedly they will arrest us if we go out|0 You are right I should say some instead of mostAnd no I dont think employers have it down they can fire someone with the wrong reason and get away with it Quite often if the employer does one thing wrong they probably have a few more things wrong as well|0 Need to censor Google from Reddit War|0 Kind of past that time but better late than neverIts just that when I start hearing that food and diapers will disappear until June and whatever OP said I raise an eyebrowChina is ALREADY starting to restore production No not because its all songs birds and flowers there but because they know that if they dont get back to work theyll get replaced And whether its them or someone else the supply chain will recover enough for food and diapers within max a month I believeSo what I personally do I expect panic periods to last 12 weeks and in general its best to go out and shop once a month so 1 week of fresh produce 36 weeks of nonperishable food seems sufficient to meNo need to prepare for end of the world This is basically how we cross the line from being prepared into panic hoardingWhoever doesnt have masks though tough luck Time for this was a month ago Maybe available here and there dunno Ive noticed in EU theyre alllllll gone last week or so I bought a month ago|1 Everyone is wearing a mask Everyone Not to avoid getting sick but to stop others getting sick of you happened to be infected but asymptomaticThis Wearing mask is so important avoiding mass gatherings too you never know who is or whether you are sick Wearing mask reduces the risk of spreading I feel that even though the number of confirmed cases in Korea is high it shows that the government is actually testing people doing the necessary measures quarantine etc I am sure the situation in Korea will get better soon will have to look out for import cases then|0 Seattle area here Youre not losing your mind Theres a whole lot of freak out going on right now Dont waste your energy trying to convince others of what you know to be true Your instincts are telling you to get ready Do it When your brain starts to go to the what ifs immediately redirect to something else as a distraction Do Not Go There|1 The question becomes what happens when it can no longer be downplayed Will John Q public be pissed that the government lied to them or go into protect me or bothThe most important thing is to WATCH what officials do not what they say If you start seeing your govt officials drop out of publicskip events then you know things are coming to a head|0 Thank you so much I now have a clearer understanding of the difference between ACE2 and AT2 receptors There really do not seem to be many specific ACE2 inhibitors unfortunately|0 OKIt looked like some panic buying the weekend before we had our first confirmed case I made a trip to the Walmart pharmacy this weekend for some ear drops but went into the coldflu section and called my parents to see if they needed anything they actually do have a cold right now It seemed like there were no shortages of any medicines or pain relievers At work there are mixed opinions The loudest people are saying its just the flu Honestly not trying to argue with them because it might cause unnecessary panic and most of them just go from work to home and back not super social All Ive added is that its a good idea in general not to touch your face and wash your hands as often as possible|0 Its inept geopolitical maneuvering Ceding leadership of an international institution allows others to take over that role And hes proposing doing that to save a miniscule amount of money relative to tax cuts Its penny wise and pound foolish|1 ELI5 version Exact shape is very important to proteins but hard to work out as 1 protein chain has many possiblities You can think of it like origami Youre handed a flat piece of paper with a pattern on it and youre told to make a dragon with no instruction The pattern can give you some clues but its not much help What you do have is some basic rules to follow but they can be applied in any which way such as pyramid or valley fold and no cutting We would know when youve got it right when the mouth of the dragon can perfectly hold onto a nicknack The same piece of paper though could also easily make a box that although useful isnt what were after The reason they dont use computers for this is because they are still really bad with shape Human brains are still the best tool we have for thinking our way around images and objects Theres another project like this one where people are asked to classify new galaxies Not complex for a human but computers just cant seem to manage it accurately enough|1 what do you mean it made no difference Did they admit the daughter or send her home|0 Maybe true no idea My point was there are way more countries to blame and we did have time to prepare|0 In 2010 I worked an education sector job that required a college degree for 8hour in Ohio Now Im in Texas and it seems most minimum wage jobs pay 1215hour|0 CDC doesnt have the authority to do anything other then recommend There probably exists a beurcratic action to change that|1 this aged well|1 BRO I LITTERALY FINGERBANGED THE CONTROL KEY SO HARD IT WORKED THANKS ALOT DUDE I wish I can give my silver to you Wait is that possible|1 Their healthcare systems overall have better results than the US system And its cheaper And the patients over there dont receive a million dollar bill if theyre in the ICU for a month|1 The hospitals cannot handle the number of severe cases if they let this go unchecked|0 Maybe Most leaders are over 50 they wont even save themselves right now so who knows|0 Kinda offtopic but Ive named my virus once called Justin Bieber and it successfully wiped out everyone in the World lmao|1 Yea that guy is suspect as fuck and literally provides no evidence for his claim that 100000s are dying|0 Some related information regarding Gileads remdesivir and lung damage Timing is keyThe data show that timing of antiviral initiation may be critical as administration of remdesivir with high viral loads seen after peak viral titer failed to reduce lung damage despite reducing viral loads in the Sheahan studyhttpswwwjwatchorgna5088920200303remdesivirpromisingantiviralagainstcoronaviruses|0 Some people are selfish to the point where they prioritize their two weeks of freedom over killing potentially millions of people|0 Thats what I thought too Like they just released a million kits and apparently the majority of states have labs now that can run the tests for the results Guess they never lifted the extreme requirements to be tested though|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 Not sure this is accurate but willing to read stuff that backs this up|0 For some sure Thanks for adding that|1 FYI you can set your WhatsApp to only show your profile pic to your contacts|1 I only want good|1 Just look at the map for ithttpswwwbloombergcomgraphics2020wuhannovelcoronavirusoutbreaksrndpremiumThe difference between northern hemisphere and southern hemisphere is absolutely striking Yes the southern hemisphere has worse testing etc but at some point it would become visible due to a sharp rise in suspicious deaths and it just hasnt Latin America and most of Africa are virtually untouched and Africa has very high levels of contact with China these days due to Chinese investments in African natural resourcesBut the real indicator to me is India India has a lot of contact with China far more than say Italy If they had the same rate of spread as Italy their hospitals would be absolutely overwhelmed with pneumonia cases And they arent Im sure there are cases going undetected but either its spreading slower or its just less dangerous there or both Climate has to be a huge factor because with all apologies to the good people of India and China India is just as bad as China with respect to hygiene crowding pollution etcI dont think warm weather is a silver bullet that will solve everything But it has to be considered as a major factor at this point its just a very effective explanation for why some countries are hit harder than others Every country hit hard at this point has had a cool climate and most excepting Iran are overcast and damp That cant be a coincidence|1 Yeah you can have your freedom as long as it doesnt endanger the safety of others which these type of people do|1 Because the paper that supports its use only came out 12 days ago Until now when it was used at all it was as a secondbest substitute for chloroquineAs for Chloroquine the Chinese have been nearly allin on it since earlytomid February Western doctors have been suspicious because chloroquine has been suggested as a cure for many things in the past with mixed results once it reaches human trialsWe might get some preliminary clinical trial results at the end of this month or early april If the results still look good governments around the world will be using this|1 Murder and violation of the law|0 Pedant alert Doublespeak would have both of those statements as intentional and correct|1 The person you directly replied to asked which private industry is going to and you wrote UofW did so although you didnt directly state UoW was a private entity your answer reads like that according to standard English grammar or a nonsequitur|1 During SARS 0 were found in Toronto I flew through at that time and remember the pantomime37 still means over 13 are being found In the real world this isnt trivial and has value|1 I wouldnt call commission based pay the norm Sure its prevalent in some industries like real estate and car sales but most people will get hourly or annual salary payIve worked in both private sector and public municipal and I can assure you there werent many differences Government is obviously held to certain laws but so is a chunk of the private sector|1 Now thats straight up genius|1 I heard its already banned in China because of this|0 Is it better to use the inside of your shirthoodie to touch your face|1 Why wait till now to announce this then Is there a conspiracy I dont understand|0 Its not worth it |0 Very true Govt officials and doctors need to stress to people that this IS a big deal Many people that I have seen in the US think this is nothing And that will not change until it is made clear through various sources that this is not just a mild case of the flu and that many people getting sick at the same time could inundate the health care system and prevent people from getting the care that they need|1 Not your fault The comment said Bill Barr instead of William Barr|1 So their government test the virus for free I suppose|1 Bro Gobert single handley played defense for 2 different sports and shut down both leagues hes above all star at this point|1 Much sooner If you get the flu in England you wait around two weeks to see a doctor|0 There are actually specific rules about taking photos inside customs halls You can be arrested and fined In a situation like this id do it anyway|0 thanks for sharing|1 They fitted a 6 parameter model to data from a slew of cities 375 cities Z D the average latent period the average duration of infection the transmission reduction factor for undocumented infections the transmission rate for documented infections the fraction of documented infections and the travel multiplicative factorFrom that their best estimates are1 86 unreported cases in Wuhan initially2 Falling to about 35 unreported where control measures are in place3 Asymptomaticunreported infectors are about 55 or so as contagious as the symptomatics|0 Thinking a job matters right now is a joke We all have a social responsibility to stop this shit If youre company is fucking the dog fuck them Walk out call in sick dont fucking go We as a collective society make the rules not the ones at the top and so if we as a collective society decide to not work in an office pushing paperwork for some asshole to make more money what can they do They wont have a business left During this shit we all need to keep an eye on the companies that fuck their employees I havent had Tim Hortons in years and after this past week will continue to never go ever for example Hopefully more people do the same|0 Yeah I mean they are spaced outside but if theyve decided thats a safe distance than they could let far more than ten inside at once|1 Amish will be the only community left standing in 12 month from now They are better prepared better isolated and have a much stronger immune system Maybe theyll have to build a wall around their little villages in order to avoid the hordes of the sick seeking refuge|1 Not day 1 exactly but i had a friend visit me before flying back home from spain around mid January and he was the one who told me about a novel virus that appeared in Wuhan and killed a couple of people alreadyI remember the exact words and the chill it gave me reading at how fast it was spreadingI talked to my family about it and friends and right before leaving 3rd of February The first cases in Europe started to show from people leaving Wuhan and that was when I was genuinely scared and people called it overreaction it wouldnt be that badThey still think its not that bad|1 Could you explain where Canadas response at the moment is lackingAsking seriously as a Canadian|0 Exciting is probably not the word Id have used|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 I was quoting Diamond Princess because its a well studied sample and the infection happened quite a while ago so I assume most cases are closed by now If you have a source that proves otherwise Im interested to see thatEdit Some Googling reveals that its a bit more complicated Some passengers who were family members of infected passengers have gotten infected after leaving the ship but might still be counted in as infected passengers Those cases seem to still be ongoing|0 exactlyx200Bits like common sense has gone out the window|1 What the fuck has happened to this sub|0 seriously these clowns seen what was popping off in China thought this is great theyre getting hammered while seemingly taking no precautions besides banning chinese from taking direct flights to the US and then assuming it wouldnt spread to the US the system is broken this has been very eye opening for me|0 i believe Iran is in worst case scenario now its probably over 100000 cases at this point|0 Ive seen all sorts of stupid and gross shit happening in the subway but this sort of targeted assault has been generally rare Thats people trying to normalize these happenings because they dont want people paying attention to the actual racism thats happening in the country|0 Make the virus illegal|0 I wonder if its transferred by kissing his butt|1 And you like 36 chance of kidney damage and 72 of heart damage Page 2httpswwwaccorgmedia665AFA1E710B4B3293138D14BE8D1213pdf|0 South Korea also had a death cult that was purposefully infecting people to bring on the end of daysPlease provide sources or that is pure speculation|0 Yeah i keep reminding myself the spread is whats really scaring people too but it still scares the crap out me that i COULD get it and it COULD kill me|0 ThanksHere its flu season so lots of people are sick I imagine its the same for your area Im so sorry youre feeling rotten but fortunately once you kick it youll have developed antibodies for it so no more having to worry about itWeve had lots come forward here but currently are at zero cases of Corona Its all been Flu Bronchitis or standard Pneumonia Think of all the other diseases that arent making the rounds because people like you are selfisolating That makes you the hero |0 And 85 of people on the Diamond Princess didnt manage to catch it|1 Or just get a flu vaccine|0 Roads and bridges and free bonus Wuhan Corona virus|1 What will you do when they start asking you for food because you have so much and they starveYou tell them that you only have enough for a little while but that your plan is to kill and eat looters to provide extra nutrition SayHunting is too much workits easier if the meat comes to youOf course they will assume you are jokingbut the fact that you even mentioned such a thing leaves them with the lasting impression that you just might be crazy enough to actually do it|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 The disease is still very dangerous for people who are at risk who have never been infected beforeSo wont this be a problem with herd immunity if a vaccine hasnt developed by the time that is achieved|0 Well thats good to know But didnt Wuhan just double their quarantine time|1 Ha ha ha so funny Racism is not cool my dude|1 Hey I wanted that Ill pay you 400|0 They buy the shares back using profits from the company When they do this they reduce the amount of outstanding shares Typically it causes a price increase because there are while the buy back takes place more buyers than sellers Its like toilet paper right now The less rolls of TP there are the more valuable each roll is On the end other end companies will issue extra shares and increase the amount of outstanding shares If youre a current share holder buyback good new issue stock bad|1 Jude Law was wearing that in the movie Contagion|0 supposedly its online but the way trump administration was trying to bias it expect poorly executed|0 If you cant agree that this is a different kind of situation in a different kind of time where economy is different and mechanics of the virus are different then we waste posts|0 Yes I live in the zone and we are allowed to leave if we are not infected We are not actually being contained yet Yet All the containment means is that community centers and businesses are being closed So far|1 Medical student here so I can shed some light on this We undergo respiratory mask fit tests so we each have a batch of personalized masks for a perfect seal Im sure most people follow proper protocol as well but others sometimes dont realize that theyre not following best practices for example being clean shaven etc|1 Hopefully the reviewers comment and the final paper includes that infoThanks for posting|1 Of course you do because you want twist it and use their preparedness as something selfish they are doing while simultaneously rationalizing away why you are not prepared nor even preparing|0 Fuck thats less than a mile from me|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Its still cold in Vancouver theyll have a great time|1 recovered in SK documents actually means no more quarantine needed for these patients I really wonder why countries like Iran and Italy have that much high recovered rate compared to SK|1 I really didnt need to read this This is actually freaking me out|0 Yeah I had no idea but Im open to being wrong Something is going on I cant comment on the political chess though I agree that they will be rubbing their hands together somehow but I am following the health service impact of other countries diligently and it does not look good|0 And if we wont gold wont mean shit Bullets and non perishables though now thats an investment in my book|1 Hee hee So good to get a laugh out of this subreddit |1 Warm weather did slow it down in the summer actually but it was back with a more virulent mutation in the fall October 1918 was the deadliest monthhttpswwwhistorycomnewsspanishfludeathsoctober1918 After subsiding over the summer a second even more powerful wave of influenza swept across the United States This influenza strain was more virulent than any seen before or since and instead of striking the very old and the very young it cut down otherwise healthy young adults such as the soldiers preparing for war|0 Why did the Seattle area hospital give up after testing a hundred cases and then just saying its endemic Why dont they test the Public and ask for self quarantines like South Korea|1 OP I agree with you if you are in the USA or Canada or pretty much every other country besides China you dont have much to worry about However Im in China with my wife and there is a shortage of face masks havent been able to buy any in the store or online and this is a big deal because you cant go inside anywhere shops grocery store public transit without a mask Cant leave the house what happens when you cant leave the house anxiety worsens If I do get sick I probably wont die but Ive been in a Chinese hospital on occasion and dont want to spend multiple weeks there So while I mostly agree with you there are different situations|1 Man guys im worried Watch out for my newest post|0 Well ur prepared for whatever now|1 China isnt slowing they just stopped reporting I guess US is even worse with censorship|0 This thread is getting completely ridiculous You have these expert virologists making predictions and then random people claim its wrong because they frequent rcoronavirus where everyone likes to fantasize about doomsday Look at Italy if they had the equivalent deathrate there they would have to have another 300000 deaths But they are getting about 300 or so a dayIld be surprised if USA gets 1 of this worst case scenario|0 Rather than just sterizile Id strongly recommend getting veggies you can bake or toss in the oven and heat over 170F Trying to clean off the surface only takes care of things on the surface|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 yes I posted something and immediately got down voted What makes it worse is the threads are setup so that if you want to reply to a reply there is a fairly long cool off period before you can I suspect this is on purpose so that the message can be controlled and the original post or reply can be drowned out if it is not on CCP narrative Maybe a bit tinfoil hatish but I stopped posting|0 WHOs own bulletin from 2005httpwww9whointbulletinvolumes8310editorial11005htmlen admitted a political problemRecently the appropriateness of WHO as a global health monitoring body has been questioned due to its multiple roles in advocacy technical assistance to countries and monitoring and evaluation against a backdrop of political links with its Member States 3Its solution was to share stats betterHowever given an increasing number of international players in the field of health statistics WHO should simultaneously strengthen its role as a facilitator and coordinator of leading experts in health statistics One example is the recently established WHO HighLevel Panel on Health Statistics|1 thank you |1 Like people are rational Theyll go and hoard more food and tp as the numbers skyrocket|1 Yes most people who I talk to about Say the flu is worse or some other dumb shit because theyre not educated so I have up too|0 No one has even tested positive in our county LITERALLY NO ONE HAS EVEN BEEN TESTED IN OUR COUNTY it is like they think the numbers magically tic up when someone gets it|1 Yeah just read the article Hope it works|1 We all need a little humour in these times hums the national anthem whilst walking away|1 I work in a small factory thats definetly not essential cosmetics in between Veneto and Lombardia center of the infection We are getting new cases in all the small cities around us and yet we have to go and if it wasnt enough we have to go even on Saturday because theres stuff to do At 10k infected the owners decided to give us gloves next day face masks and now they test if we have fever we have to be alone in the changing rooms and all that stuff I am mindblown by how people are just interested in money Its just a 2 week break what the government is recommending please I dont want to get infected because I have to produce an antihairloss lotion|0 I hope you are right|1 Steven Soderberg already made the primer in a movie Its called Contagion|0 Yep The petition to cancel classes has around 3000 signatures|1 I understand your point but I think the problem is that people avoid seeking medical advicetreatment simply because they dont want their personal freedom to be taken away which can make things worse|0 Yeah I need some paint during this downtime LOL|1 Happy cake day|1 Dont forget Costco let this happen|1 Im just reading stuff on reddit about this so Im mostly uninformed Having said that hospitals around the world are giving various medications appropriate to the symptoms in each patient Some dont need more than fever medication while some need drugs to handle pneumonia as well as the drugs I mentioned above In addition some places have reported that a drug for arthritis of all things named actemra is helping patients recover faster The good thing is that all this information is being shared globally on a daily basis which makes me very hopeful Research labs are sharing a lot of data with others especially universities and govt funded research So lots of very smart people are working in cooperation somewhat globally|1 If thats not s you sound ignorant|1 The VA Healthcare system is my healthcare provider The smaller surgical type masks is what was put out They arent adequate for many airborne droplet infections Im sure youve seen a hospital during busy hours At some point weaker masks arent helping They have these stations with Kleenex tissues hand sanitizer and masks Cheap PPE is only going to make things worse No I cant just walk in and take as many as I wish Depending on the Veteran we get benefits many do not Im partially disabled and recently had a Distal Bicepts Tendon repair at the VA Another Veteran had the same surgery the day I had mine I would say I have access to them to a limited degree|0 South Korea was working on coronavirus testing even before nCoV emerged because of MERShttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1237058531410489345htmlrefreshedyeshttpsthreadreaderappcomthread1237058531410489345htmlrefreshedyesI shared this before but reupping this interview with Dr Lee Jaegap who explained how S Korea was able to ramp up the capacity to test for COVID19 so quickly Short version KCDC was ready for a mutant strain of coronavirus as early as Nov 2019 Having gone through MERS S Koreas CDC decided a different kind of coronavirus will strike again So by Nov 2019 even before COVID19 was known to the world KCDC developed a protocol to detect a new strain of coronavirus The protocol is super clever They basically developed a test to detect every kind of coronavirus then eliminated all known variants like SARS This way S Korea could detect a new strain without knowing exactly what that strain is Then they ran enough trial runs to have the test be performed as quickly as possible As a result S Korea intercepted its first nCoV case a visiting Chinese tourist at the airport and could confirm diagnosis within 12 hours of testingTheres no substitute for good preparation|1 I think its more like the other common coronaviruses and goes thru like a cold|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 The Chinese government have banners up around the country with threateningsounding messagesIF YOU VISIT FRIENDS TODAY EXPECT THE CORONAVIRUS TO KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR TOMORROWhttpsmobiletwittercomSCMPNewsstatus1235879043804704771Wonder what our governments equivalent would end up being|1 Yeah too bad alcohol is a poison and weakens your immune system|0 Well if anyone could get a vaccine it would be him first|1 TLDR Shrine is a massive pirate and torrenter who is stealing paid content this virus means hes managed to gain access to a load of research unrelated to Covid19 because people are gullible|0 I live in Central Florida and theres a strong mix here of people stocking up and staying indoors and people that are 60 and older in full blown denial packing every church and restaurant in sight No joke There was a line outside the Chinese buffet before they opened last Thursday and it was just a huge line of old people Its gonna be god damn mayhem|1 Thats been a theory from the start but doomers does not like it|0 So do I There are very watchable videos but will alarmterrify those still stuck in stages 1 or 2 of Schopenhauers stages of truth Edited to say even for people whove reached stage 3 the news is still very disturbing|0 Im not sure how this view has become the orthodoxyIs there any historical precedent for them being too honest with people in a crisis and it causing some sort of disaster|0 no its not you need to keep track of the spread to effectively limit itNow governments and people are not taking precautions because they thing they have 110 of the current actual casesSuccessful containment is where this is done such as Korea|1 Id say something closer to mischievous person It literally translates to small sly person Its usually not particularly negative in connotation you would mostky use it to describe a child whos trying to outsmart an adult or something like that|1 He would like a large number of dead pensioners|0 Thanks I hope I dont get it either Its insane that forcing people to go to work WILL kill people I see so many elderly people every single day I hope this disease leads to real change|1 Did you catch the part where the article was written by a former Department of Homeland Security official Or did you just react to the headline|1 They have all the numbers and news on the Oregon Health Authority website and you can sign up for email updates as well|1 Good point|1 i liked this justification morehttpsiimgurcoma4QliwAjpgLike seriously|1 Now I want quarantine too|1 Thanks|1 I think you might be either confusing specificity and sensitivity or youre misunderstanding the implications of dimers and hairpins in primersHigh sensitivity means you have few false negatives High specificity means you have few false positives Dimers and hairpins will prevent transcriptase from copying the RNA when its present Thus dimers and hairpins have no impact on specificity theres no RNA to amplify and are detrimental to sensitivity failure to amplify the RNA when it is present|0 the virus is almost entirely airborne Aint shit you can do about it |1 We need more babies so thats good |1 If this was biowarfare by the Chinese they would want people in our governments arguing against containment They lied to us telling us its just a flu it will never get here we can easily contain it when they never intended to contain it They helped the virus they are not on the side of the citizens They are on the side of the virus and those behind it They must be made to pay|0 all countries hit pretty hard by SARSSometimes it takes suffering a pandemic to understand how to fight one Europe meanwhile hasnt suffered a real pandemic in forever and theyre most of them bungling it|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Chinese food culture in a nutshell Eat something gross and pretend you like it to fit in and because its rareexpensive|1 Its good though that those checked bags are extra so that people who dont need them dont pay for them The cheap lowfare airlines have made changes even to the standard carriers which benefit the flexible customer|1 You became the very thing you swore to destroy|0 If Singapore and Brazil are examples of low rate of spread the world is in for a long one|0 Abroad PhDs often call themselves Dr there are even Dr Drs in some countries Germany for people who have more than one In the States PhDs dont usually use Dr but will put PhD after their name professionally In the US only medical degrees use Dr nonprofessionally for everyday interactions which is honestly unnecessary IMO Its a cultural difference between Europe and the US I wouldnt read more into it than that|1 Yeah at least youre not in ChicagolandEvery one of these people probably live in the suburbs Id bet at least a few of them took the Blue Line to downtown and then transfered to another line With the virus staying on surfaces for several hours thats the entire L infected And that doesnt even consider all of the bus routes the commuter rail and rideshare cars they jumped intoWere so fucked here|0 On YouTube you can pause the video where you want right click on it then select Copy video URL at current time The link will start where you want it when someone clicks the link Like thishttpsyoutubegQBioeCwt0Et6|1 Oh my god shutup bootlicker|1 I work for the government and we just got a memo last week letting us know that theyre staying on top of it and that theyll keep us up to date useless|0 Fellow Canadian here who was born in Zhengzhou and still have some family friends there My dad actually went back to Kaifeng for Chinese New Year to visit grandparents and is now stuck there and cant fly back to Canada all outbound flights from China to Canada cancelled Thanks for sharing the photos recognized a couple spots I used to pass by Very eerie seeing it this empty Stay safe|1 The richest country in the world uses that excuse to not doing anything for its people Hows that make America great again if others literally way better at handling the situation Human capital is the most influential factor of economic growth I guess the fixing stock market is more urgent than saving millions of people|1 I dont think you need to worry so much about stopping the virus on your hands You just want to keep your hands from coming into contact with droplets and then transferring them to your face|0 Sanders has always been a communist apologist While hating the rich while being extremely wealthy himselfHe even surrounds himself with hard line communists and stalanists I think he is very intelligent he knows how to pander to people however do not think he will not destroy the US economyHe also spins a web of deceit and lies Student loans a way to get people to study and get into high pay careers where they will earn a lot more than non educated peers Has been spun into oppression Tax funded health care that means lower quality for most Americans for the benefit of a small amount of americans is spun into the only option rather than one of thousands of others including laws to make more competitionCarbon tax as the ONLY solution The green new deal is only vaible if the USA was the only polluter rather than getting the economy on max drive making average people able to afford to swotch over to green technologies and investing surplus tax into safer nuclearthoriumpebble or just safer uranium and eventually fusionI can go on and on how all these policies sound good but they are generally just pandering to stupid people who have to capability to think of the bigger picture or even better or actual solutions Some we actually have allready My 3 steps would be 1 colledge kids should have a mandatory financial course showing them how their lifetime income will be more than the people they will be taking from if they get it for free and how their taxes will be more for life2 allow cross state competition and cheaper drugs onto the market3 push for thorium reactors and an switch to powered road auto mobiles Cheap carsno bat or small bat running on roads supplying both normal and auto electricityMy 3 ideas would cost very little to implement and bring huge financial gains over decades due to efficiency|1 It cant be overstated how much your calm steady presence means to us right now Made a point today at the grocery to personally thank every employee I could find May not be much but Thanks We appreciate it|1 No its not|0 I mean yea I agree Its hard to draw any good conclusions with any data we have so far|1 Thats why when I run out of food in a month Ill only buy non perishables and drop them in a corner for a few days before unpacking Low effort minimal riskI can live without fresh vegetables and ice cream and most meats as long as necessary|0 You need to visit social media more then its pretty much everywhere|1 Oh yeah same in my city Some have not even heard of coronavirus here I was walking down to get coffee from my work place and asked the cafe owners if there has been any chatter and they looked at me like I have gone crazy Its not a threat outside of China apparently|1 Unbelievably and recklessly stupid Theyll be tons of problems from this but its their own fault Anyone attending anything like this currently is an idiotic fool|0 Or you could read the original post since it is about the dangers of downplaying the potential risk in the USRight now flu is widespread across the US Locally our healthcare providers are calling it an epidemic of both A and B strains People are still working because they cant afford ten days off work They already dont take the flu seriously What do you think they are going to do when they read someone writing It is not much worse than the flu People tend to latch on to information that confirms their bias|0 I agree with your analysis comparing Liberias ebola with Chinas coronavirus is not correct still those numbers are not taken at the same stage of the epidemic therefore the comparison is useless|0 Why stop there If we nationalize all health companies we could actually take care of everyone|1 I told my parent peer pressure is a hell of a thing and will get people killed when having a similar conversation|0 Youre right So these people who work at this park should lose their income But you shouldnt because you cant afford it Lol k|0 The sad thing is that the were millions of P100 filter masks around that provide far better protection and last a week than the n95 by a factor of 10100 but they are no offered for medical purposes to avoid the liability issues The bill would have exempted the mfg from liability for the pandemic but congress bowed to the trial attorneys|0 True|1 Thats why I said its a dictatorship with extra step and in a manner of speaking Sure I wont get hawled to jail for speaking because right now Im just one person with no audience But soon as my voice becomes amplified I will be shut down Probably not by police but by willing foot soldiers like you Dictatorship with extra steps|1 Thats just a terrible situation Hope it all works out for you So theyre no longer testing Wow Cant have any cases if you dont test eh|1 Yes Pooya our Mamans will survive No worries|0 No All estimates point to coronavirus being more deadly|0 I think it really is possible it started a lot earlier People keep seizing on the wet market but it is looking more and more like there were other cases Its possible lots of old people were dying from pneumonia for some time and Chyna was simply too incompetentdishonest with their numbers to identify it for what it was|1 I think someone here must learn the meaning of the word greyLife is not black or white left right bad or good|0 How much do young people in the US like teenagers and young adults should worry about Coronovirus I am so fucking scared can someone tell me the truth|0 now try to relax Stress will only hurt your immune system|0 Wow the twitter comments those people are idiots|1 WHO has been giving terrible advice this entire time|0 Its not 18 months more like 12 months|1 This Were a family of 5 and it seems like we never stop eating unless everyone is asleep Even totally stocked we still need to get fruitsveggies at least once a week|1 Its cute that you think theyre super geniuses and not just grossly incompetent|1 Oh no this reminds me of that guy who was under quarantine but went to basically every bar in his city to infect others|0 What convinced you|1 Ok well heres the thing and why I hate snopes x200BRear Adm Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by thenNational Security Advisor John Bolton and Ziemers team was disbanded Tom Bossert whom the Washington Post reported had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks had been firedhttpswwwnbcnewscompoliticspoliticsnewstombosserttrumpshomelandsecurityadviserresignn864321 one month prior Its thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it eliminating Ziemers position and reassigning others although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time Legum statedhttpstwittercomJuddLegumstatus1232051346796371968 in a followup tweet that Trump also cut funding for the CDC forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectiousdisease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018 Among the countries abandoned China That was partly true according to 2018 news reportshttpswebarchiveorgweb20200206210123httpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewstoyourhealthwp20180201cdctocutby80percenteffortstopreventglobaldiseaseoutbreak stating that funding for the CDCs global disease outbreak prevention efforts had been reduced by 80 including funding for the agencys efforts in China But that was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding not a direct cut by the Trump administrationx200BSo Trump didnt do it Bolton did whom Trump fired They also dont mention that this position was appointed by Obama a new position that was a political position not a medical one nor necessary for implementing a response They also dont mention that no other administration in history had ever had that position and that the position was responsible for a lot of the lapses in communication Obamas regulations designed to filter information through a political appointee kept them from being able to get the proper approval to release it that has since been undone This whole thing has been a shit show but considering weve had a plan laid out for a response for preparation and execution since the Bush administration its kind of hard for me to simply blame Trump that nobody in the WHO or CDC seems to know what to do I mean what is the UN organization good for if not for taking the lead on handling issues like this and advising and organizing How do states not have individual plans for this Why arent hospitals ordering their own tests if they are apparently so cheap Theres a lot of wtf going on right now but Trump is hardly at the top of that list right now|1 No this kind of thinking is an overdramatization|0 What does this have to do with the stats not adding up Thats the most general dataless information I have ever come across regarding a counterargument There is literally no point across|0 I still cant believe how the governments that stopped ships in this case Japan basically condemned most of the people in there to get infected Plus we are talking about Japan not a Latin America or African country with messed up governments|0 Honestly i dont understand why they wait until is really really bad to do this Governments are too slow and in denial in their attempt to not cause panic|1 Well neighbor stay well|1 Ohhhh is a pandemic everyone panic Ok what should I or the government doCricketsUseless article|0 I still fear theyre trying to hide something far worse than corona since some of the measures would only make sense with african swine fever|0 Thats the spirit|1 Ha there may be a bridge but there might not be many if any to cross it|1 We also purchased pulse oximeters for our family and they all read correctly now for us in good health Im reassured to have them in the case of Illness to know when were good to ride things out at home and when its time to be seen Its good peace of mind|1 Weve known for years that smoking increases the severity of respiratory illness COVID19 would be a remarkable exception to that and thus the burden of proof lies with you|0 From an owner perspective its better to turn those away if the customers are from areas known to have high infection rates The customer is unlikely to take it personally even giving them a small discount coupon to say that you do not want to turn them away but have no choice If they dont turn customers away there is a high chance of having a large chunk of your staff get sick That will make service very poor which is everything in a hotel Customers will not come back You will get bad reviews From a pure money perspective it may be cheaper to turn others away|0 Be careful though with zombies old coughing people without masks and speeding cars on those lonely roads they dont need to worry about those fancy facial recognition speeding cameras right now with everyone wearing a mask|1 fair Im just saying that once they legitimately open back up the virus will come back in weeks to months and the whole things will keep playing out over and over until a vaccine or herd immunity is reached sucks|1 They effectively banned exports when they stopped exporting most things And they only allow exports after the governments need are met which is super vague They also nationalized foreign mask producers like M3 Other countries had to ban exports in part because China bought so many back and because so many people donated to China Thats not to say they arent justified looking out for themselves but they arent selfless saviors they want to portray themselves as either httpswwwnytimescom20200313businessmaskschinacoronavirushtmlTaiwan 1|1 Its a natural reaction for anyone thats come to the same conclusion in regarding to how big of a threat this is It also doesnt help when we have people still towing the line of bro its just the flu bro and trying to gaslight us into thinking this is a nothing burger The reality is well get through this like any other storm and crisis throughout human history While there are those out there not giving a fuck spreading it on purpose or not taking this seriously at all There are those among us who are taking every measure to mitigate this crisis help each other and pulling every effort to contain and cure Dont just focus on the ugly of humanity but also those who whether by great acts or little acts are heroes in their own right These are the little things we dont see reported everyday because they dont sell newsheadlines Dont forget them Because in reality if there is absolutely no one trying to help make the situation better we as a species would have been extinct long ago|1 i really suspect that if Trump carried virus too not easy to judge a good or bad news|0 I recommend bolding the words scientific discussion in the subreddit info if thats possible|1 Thanks for being an amazing human being as always Both of you Hope youre able to enjoy some time in your trampoline room during all of this or when its all over Both of you stay safe and healthy|1 I feel the same This atmosphere of political correctness inadvertently benefits the oppressor CCP As freethinking people we cant even have responsible conversations about the possible sources of COVID19 without being labeled a rumor monger conspiracy theorist andor racist even if the ONLY level 4 lab in all of China sits at the epicenter of the outbreak Furthermore the bat virus identified as the likely source of COVID19 96 genetically identical was originally found in a cave 800 miles from Wuhanoh by the way was also being studied by virologists at the Wuhan lab So what are the chances that those bats travelled 800 miles to Wuhan via wildlife trade vs being accidentally leaked from the Wuhan labI understand it would be inflammatory to say its a bio weapon But an accidental leak esp in light of previous SARS leaks is wholly possible and worthy of discussion The CCPs belligerent responses had me suspicious from the getgo It reminds me of a wise quote from Elie Wiesel famous writer and holocaust survivor Neutrality helps the oppressor never the victim Silence encourages the tormentor never the tormented Sometimes we must interfere When human lives are endangered when human dignity is in jeopardy national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant|0 The problem is you have these local economies propped up based on the cruise industry Without them they would take a huge hit Short term loss for long term gain|1 UK department for health announced today they will not be disclosing locations of infections from now on To me citizens have a right to know areas that should be avoided if possible|0 Dont care if she looks or not just smack|0 Its insane the governor has canceled schools statewide|0 Its a monoclonal antibody based treatment wont be cheap and not easy to make|0 If were talking about the same hearing weds morning he said he has never lied to a president I dont doubt he is privately telling Trump the full truth but is in fact being muzzled from telling the truth to the public|1 Yeah theres worse scenarios than not going on holiday But like you said the frustration is killer Hope you get to see your husband soon All the best|0 Literally nothing in nature follows a linear growth path The simplest explanation is that the numbers are garbage I dont mean tainted necessarily but they are most definitely not measuring enough people or measuring them accurately The official numbers are all minimum proven cases They have no clue what the actual numbers are|1 To what degree are these stats meaningfulThe column headings should be relabelled as Detected Transmissions and Detected DeathsIf we compare CFRs Case Fatality Rates based only on detected Covid19 cases and established deaths due to Covid19 in what sense if any are these CFRs meaningful between countries|0 some of these peopleleaders think that this is another regular flu|0 Absolutely I agree 100 I dont like having to depend on other people and a pantry gives me a feeling of safety and independence|1 Please reply to my last post and embarass yourself again What a fucking waste of my time|0 I have stopped ordering pizza and my favourite Thai food I miss my pad Thai Ill be learning to make this at home now Today I did grab a coffee at a smaller coffee shop to get me through a WalMart shop to stock up I made sure I did not have to bring my son with me who touches everything|0 Anyone that says that you deserve this is full of hatred and should be pitied The timing is terrible such an important holiday affected|0 Patients wont have to pay for coinsurance or premiums anyone correct me if Im wrong associated with coronavirus Typically our insurance only kicks in after weve paid deductiblespremiums which can be pretty high and discouraged people from seeking medical attention|0 Here in AZ this was announced by our governer takkkg there advice All schools closed until March 27th and no gatherings over 50|0 no one will listen they make fun of me for it lol|1 Why do some Amazon guys knock on my door and some dont I know its different companies but cant amazon tell them all to just drop and run|0 Its kinda funny actually Youd think the zombie apocalypse was upon us|1 You hit it right on the head mixed messagesfrom their dear leader has made them think its ok meanwhilen those damn millennials keep telling them to stay home and take it easy for a few weeksI havent even tried with my parents because theyre too far gone they were always dumb but now theyre just flat out stupid beyond belief Theyve never listened to me a single time in my life no matter the topic they just think they know everything So thats fine they can go ahead and keep traveling and shaking hands with everyone they meet at least maybe well have two less trump supporters around going forward Thats the best silver lining I can come up withAnd if were really lucky trump will have it and thats a wrap|1 Yup Good old Pasco|1 rcoronavirus is pretty much that Its funny how this sub seems doomer as fuck but is actually so much more logical than the other sub|1 Right They do IT went into effect in January Thats why no retail stores can restock If they needed them that bad they can enact all kinds of powers to force stores to give them to hospitals They could notify the corporations that they are to donate them to local hospitals etc They didnt That is not our fault That is squarely on the Trump administration As is the failure to manage the national stockpile No matter who was doing it before its been unearthed on their watch and they were not prepared when they had plenty of notice|0 No foreign soldier set foot on English soil but their planes sure flew over and dropped bombs on itIf you think the fear of a bomb falling on your head and the fear of COVID19 are the same then you are a fool|0 The mods here and rCoronavirus especially are censoring all sorts then patting themselves on their backs for supressing information Absolutely crazy|0 Thats the issue It really is the best way to target 95 of conspiracy theories Why Who benefits from it In this case it cant be a single country targeting someone else because its now spreading on every single country and those causing it would have taken measures early otherwise Its also not some measure to thin out global population because honestly the COVID19 its pretty shit at that worst estimates give a few million dead which is nothing compared to the global population and theres plenty of bioweapons whose existance is known that could be infinitely worse So why would anyone spread the SARSCOV2 There really isnt a reason|0 Can you please clarify|1 WhyIts the equivalent of kicking the can down the road in this case further towards winter where health services will be under increased strain Delaying achieves fuck all unless youre going to delay until theres a vaccine widely available which is predicted at 18 months so that isnt going to work Or you go full total war state and institute conscription for the NHS and move all business towards producing medical equipment and buildings which is also not going to happen The obvious goal is to flatten the curve so you reduce the strain on the NHS while simultaneously developing herd immunity so the at risk groups have less chance of contracting the virus|0 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to stop the spread they then tried to tell me that most people would touch the OUTSIDE of the mask rendering it ineffective There were a bunch of other bullshit lies they tried to tell me but at least they left my floor redfaced and quiet for once|0 Thats actually really cool and also terrifying|0 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 This 1 Explains a lot 2 Is why anything ever done notslow in japan is always doomed to be a huge clusterfuck ie Normal actions goes something like this we need to have a meeting to finalize the procedure for filing the paperwork needed to officially request an announcement of notice for discussion on when to hold the briefing for the format of the meeting to decide who is in charge of planning how but not who to begin preparations to get blankthing done And OC there are no less than 18 people mixed within this with the power to change veto or just hold it up at any or all stages for any reason at all plus 50 more outside people having no connection or knowledge of it with the same ability Not to mention about 23 bureaucrats for every stage of the mess|0 I dont understand what people like OP want people to be doing Should everyone turn into a recluse and be screaming in panic over the virus Its not in 90 of communities worldwide|0 Because you really dont want the healthcare workers spreading it if they catch it see the cluster from the Australian hospital for why and because even if the effect is minor in protecting people from it healthcare workers are going to be exposed enough that even minor protections will have significant effects overall for them Add to that they still need to protect themselves and others from everything else in the hospital Theyre still treating elderly and immunocompromised people and could transmit other illnesses as well even minor ones which would be life threatening to those groups A shortage of masks impacts all the protections in the hospital not just interactions with people who have COVID19|0 Arrested Where is the source that say they were arrested|0 Other than the fact that the majority of those supplies are manufactured inwait for itChinaThis event is going to expose the global reliance on centralized manufacturing and how it is a massive vulnerability|0 Can we just vote them all out Our government is pathetic|0 take away the government no more healthcare for anyoneso the doctors nurses and equipment would all just vanish idk why youre so set in the idea that these things are impossible without government|0 He had a blackface scandalAlso ITLL BE FINE HELL COSPLAY AS A HEALTHY PERSON|0 Soap is probably the best just because it gets rid of dirt Why would hand sanitizer work|1 Couldnt it also be possible that this guy maybe sat next to someone from Wuhan on the plane that gave it to him We dont know for sure how he got this But yes it definitely speaks to it being hyper contagious but we already knew this No ideal for Vietnam|1 Did anyone find any reputable academic sources on this Global Times leans towards antiCommunist party rhetoric and can play up the scaremongering aspects of it I would love to find out more what academics are saying about this|1 Im in Canada nobody here has it anymore So Im pretty confident Ive got nothing to worry about for nowEdit This comment aged well breaking news brand new case here|1 Australia on fire locusts in Africa so war disease locusts fire and brimstone Did I miss anything Oh market crash and recession|0 Or we can pay nurses more|0 Hey man I also quit as a result of this news I am a bit younger than you but only have been smoking for nine odd months so far You can do this You can give up smoking If not because of this for your future self|0 Im glad Target and Walmart are opening their parking lots s|1 Im convinced that they are concerned about false negatives which is why they arent testing more If someone is sick but not tested they are told to quarantine If someone is sick tested and receives a false negative they go back out in the community and spread it|0 Look at Brooklyn Theres currently OPEN real estate Not much but some Because the owners would rather stick to their guns and make no money than admit that theyre asking too much and lower the rent to make it desirable enough to rent Backwards much I always tell my kids 1 is more than 0 but we see instance after instance where New Yorkers or landlords in anyplace really are so bent against this idea of getting fucked that they fuck themselves out of prospective renters|0 The Chinese are reporting positive tests not infected That there are more infected is pretty much a given|1 Well I was just saying it so you could work from home |1 For those who didnt check he reported cases in Volusia county home to the infamous Daytona Beach where lots of people enjoy spring break|1 Theyre closing the schools They just announced that and there will be a press conference in twenty minutes So youre good|1 Me too and Im here mate cant fault healthy skepticism I feel that theyve done well but that people in the US and Uk will never agree to the limitations that were imposed on life here for the last few weeks I had my first pint in 6 weeks on Saturday as bars have just reopened|0 I was in my doctors office at the end of January I mentioned to the nurse that I was a little nervous about catching the flu while I was there She said she wiped down everything in the room between patients|0 Honestly as scary as tornadoes are Id rather deal with the small probability of dying in oneand an occasional nightmare than live in a place that where it snows regularly Im happy with our one day of snow that melts by 3pm and temps that rarely go below 30 You guys are the brave ones|1 Sorry friend we have to downvote you to prove your point|1 I read this headline 5 times but I kept missing the word testing|0 Pretty sure theres a regular startled cats one also |1 OMG Theres only a 98 percent chance of survivability Dont they know that|1 I had the same initial thought about getting it earlybut then we learned it can reinfect stronger and harder for patients to recover|1 Ugh Im sorry Sometimes the wording in those types of letters is almost as enraging as the situation itself Try to rest when possible I hope you get some relief soon|0 Would you like to be back at square one I personally would love for my country to have no new cases and to be able to go back to containment strategies only this time with sufficient medical supplies|1 I dont see it anywhere on this sub but earlier an exhausted Dr Jiang Jijun died of heart attack during his shift He was the vice director of the infection disease department that is currently overwhelmed|0 This happened in a hospital in The Netherlands too where I work Turned out in the end his main problem wasnt pulmonary but it scared me how no one caredlaughed it off|0 Exactly and all the promises for financial aid from missing work due to the coronavirus will hinge on being diagnosed with the coronavirus If you arent able to get a diagnosis you arent eligible for government assistance|1 I live in Ireland and I live in a relatively small town but the parade was postponed anyway The fact that they postponed it rather than cancelled is kinda weird because you cant just have a St Patricks Day parade in the middle of April or something Its not St Patricks but hey we tried|0 Okay so hes a month behind the news|1 I know its not much but take a multivitamin or vitamin C if you can lots of fluids and get some sleepI know everyone is feeling anxious but some of the best things we can do now are small things Good luck Im in the biggest city in Eastern WA Spokane and because we dont have confirmed cases lack of tests lol ive been worried that our hospitals will be hit hard Schools still open everywhere and it seems like the city is more worried about the economy and not spreading panicBeing under 30 im not worried for myself currently but i have several grandparents in their 70s and 80s and also would like my kid to visit with them My wifes Grandma is already in bad health and my mother in law lives with her and works Uber at this point im not even worried about the spread of the disease and more worried about whether it will overwhelm local hospitals|1 Or that asshole comedian that did the same thing|1 Why have I spent so many hours playing Fallout games if not to survive in an apocalyptic world|0 My vendors were and they all happily rescheduled Our venue gave us push back but within our contract it discusses national emergencies acts of God etc so after quite some debating they reluctantly let us reschedule it|1 Thats because it is ignorant People that think this way are the problem|0 Cant confirm or deny that but they are definitely munching pangolin armadillo relativeshttpsmhuffpostcomusentryus5e3df0a2c5b6bb0ffc1113fd|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes that is correct According to the announcement there will be one government official assigned to each household to enforce the Corner Rule These are dire times indeed|0 I strangely find this encouraging But American arrogance is bar none If someone makes something idiot proof America will surely make a better idiot|0 Ok take a look at this httpsimgurcomYz1GgxEAfter running that set of numbers and it isnt a simple copy and paste process Additionally am recording the updates for future use so keeping them pristine has importance Again after running that set of numbers refreshed the JHU source and found Taiwans numbers had dropped to 8 on both sides Will take a look at the CDCs information but historically found them less reliable than other reporting groups Will take a look at what they have which as of last weekend was a pitiful offering and see whether or not it might be used|0 Totally agree Id genuinely be reassured if I were an American right now Boris had a once in a century chance of turning me the hardest of lefties to the conservatives if he had taken steps like this to protect our population He could have become a hero of Churchill like proportions if he had protected us to the fullest extent early on and put UK out there as an example of how to tackle pandemics and look after your populationInstead I got advice on how to wash my hands and a warning that a love one will die shortlyIm not demanding immunity by any means but I am condemning inaction that leads to a greater loss of life I see no evidence of any country gaining herd immunity to this but a great deal of reinfection ratesI fear our country is making a grave grave mistake|1 sooo what are you suggesting 15k cases and 300 dead And you think this is enough to justify all the lockdowns canceled airlines the loss from consumerism and tourism D sleep on|0 Like we do with all the rest of the what they pull right|1 NO IDEA|0 Bnonewscom keeps timing out just meEdit they released a tweet stating the problem and are working on a fix now|0 You can look up the age ranges of people who have had dangerous cases YOU are the one spreading disinformation|0 Macron is going to speak tonight looks like we all get the ban hammer and curfews|0 I honestly hope it is sooner than later If we quarantine sooner I would think it would be for a shorter time|1 That may be the most trumpian thing Ive ever heard Not a knock on you but a general comment on how dumbed down we are|0 Ww3 about to get started by a virus lmao|1 I mean technically the ship is not inside of Japan I think it should definitely be counted separately|1 Go now if you can hope you feel better|1 Preterm labor kills babies And yes no vertical transmission|0 I dont have one yet but I have several friends who do Id help supply materials to someone with a printer|1 The level of incompetence buy all levels of Canadian government is unbelievable In reality weve allowed this with our votes I hope we all learn from this|1 I live in Fulton Its been pretty cold until just today I have been wearing a scarf and hat to and from the bus for weeks We have had a couple 12 week warm bursts th since December but for the most part in the 40s From what Im reading theres a big difference for virus stability between 40F and 60F|1 lol I was just thinking about thatI always made it hella infectious and left no symptoms until I either had 34 of the world or the cure was at like 30 Then Id unlock a shit ton of symptoms at once and let it take it away|0 In my opinion continue to life your life and dont head into hotspots or cruise shipsPhilly and Montreal are not hotspots so it would be ridiculous to cancel your plans|0 Thank you for helping us and taking a tisk in doing so GOD BLESS|1 What the fuck does that have to with open borders|0 Hong Kong and Wuhan have brought out a lot of latent Sinophobia which has always existed to some extent in this country dont dare try calling it out on reddit though or you will be accused of whataboutism|0 I was making a joke that using chemtrails to mass distribute an antiviral drug would really freak out all the conspiratards I dont actually think thats a legitimate solution|1 Though I agree with you in regard to this Hanlons Razor is complete shite IMHO The idea that a large part of the elites not all of course arent selfserving sociopaths psychopaths is utter nonsense Though to be fair most leaders care to one degree or another about the population of their nations When it comes to corporate elites though Hanlons Razor is dead in the water|1 Especially not Cambodia Ive been to hospital in Cambodia seriously you dont want to end up in hospital in Cambodia Even if you were healthy going in|1 Oh please Im from the fucking south Its not a matter of understanding the other side their culture etc It is purely reasonable resentment and disgust|0 Longer Unless we all quarantine alone in a truly foolproof isolation environment family members will pass it around 23 weeks is enough to find out which houses have it already After that affected families would need to be separated those with symptoms for treatment and those without need to SOLO quarantine for ANOTHER 2 weeks to see if anyone else caught it Done PERFECTLY without ANY spread thru healthcare workersimperfect measures we could eliminate this with foolproof quarantineseparation measures spannning TWO full incubation periods So 6 weeks of economic stagnation minimum Being 100 perfect is VERY difficult this virus seems to be very infectiousPlus we are humans You dont stop having cancer or mental illness or whatever for 6 weeks just because of this virus Criminality and hate and domestic violence and all the ugliness of the human condition dont pause because of this virus|0 Those videos scare me I think were fucked|0 jack ma we need it much more than USA Sincerely Pakistan|1 Well the CDC may thinkknow that this is only slightly worse than the flu I hope|0 Her experience is basically the same with mine also stuck in Wuhan for weeks now except my families only wash hands and change clothes after returning from outside She is super cautious and thats a good thingOP could you please tell your friend that if she is really really worried about the lump on her daughters neck she can contact her community and ask for permission to go to the hospital Hospital clinics are SUPER empty now except for fever clinics It will be fine if she takes precautions and I believe she will take enough precautions|1 Its difficult to tell the CFR until after an outbreak The CFR for Sarscov1 was revised upwards at the end of the outbreak I dont want to be over alarmist but potentially this could happen with SARSCov2 I cant post a link but BBC News had a medic from China who is working in Wuhan on last night He had been given permission to speak to them by the CCP He stated that the death rate for Critical cases was actually worse than Sars was So potentially the CFR could get revised upwards|0 Glad Captain Obvious has finally joined the team|1 Happy cake day|1 Remember the Spring Breakers and bar crawlers who ignored pleas for social distancing and accelerated the spread of COVID19 to themselves and others|0 The FDA approved industrial P100 and N95 masks is my understandingTell your supervisor Print the info off of the internet and hand it to themText email everyone you know and ask for masks I had two P100s in my garage One unopenedTrump declared an emergency so that health professionals can do whatever they think is best legallyPrint off the emergency declaration as pertaining to this and give it to your supervisorSurvival of the fittest mentally|1 Im so worried about this myself|0 Chinese people are more likely to have recently been in ChinaThe comment youre responding to is talking about Chinese immigrants They rarely if ever go back to ChinaYoure thinking of Chinese expats Those are people that travel for jobs or other opportunities but rarely settle down|1 No Im just a person who figured out a long time ago that every single human being on this planet despite how many thousands of years our shared ancestors may be apart well were all still related to each other at the end of it all Were all one big family and unfortunately like families do we have some relatives that just want to bad mouth and pick on others Hang in there distant cousin Be safe and stay healthy Please |1 Yea Im not saying that everyone there isnt infected but Im sure a majority of the people going in normal years would just be the ones to stay at home and ride the flu out|1 Just make sure to rate him before you die |0 Eh Im a minority pretty much everywhere Would rather be a minority amongst smart people|1 Could you share some links Id be pretty interested to read more on the subject|1 Well thats a huge relief s|1 The Utah Jazz organization blew thru 58 fucking tests Dont let that bother you as there are plenty of tests to go around sFuck them and everyone who was involved in this|1 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Would PQQ be better utilized after onset of symptoms or as a preventative I have a very limited supply|1 I would have thought the opposite We will be screaming for NHS investment if this thing gets as bad as we fear it will surely Watch what happens in the USA I guess|0 Oh thank you|1 Its not about stupidity Its about being an asshole|1 Member spending 20 minutes downloading a song only to find out the last 75 of it was just static because it was a record industry decoyI am so thankful they finally got their heads on straight and started offering legit digital delivery for |1 We in the US were told to ignore it It was under control and the numbers would go down from 15 to 0|0 Letting a pandemic ravage the nation and collapse its healthcare system to own the libs|0 jiayou like jahyo literally means add oil as in keep pushing forward|1 Houston You mean like people preparing for it|1 Great answer |1 Woman working two jobs to support her children made 2 mistakes 1 She didnt purusit career to have enough income to support her lifestyle2 She decided that its good idea to support another 2 unemployed people for 18 years rchildfreeSorry but thats just pure wrong decision making and leveraging her position to unsustainable level and now she demands to have something for lesser price than its real marketprice She wants to steal someone else belonging so she can have it for free or cheaper Its pure theft and nobody should support this toxic behaviorBTW if capitalism is so bad why are you not producing everything without capital You can make products without roof over your head machines Capitalists allow people to produce more products much cheaper Because hoarding capital allows larger investments|0 The US is going to be significantly worse than Italy Were three weeks away from mass graves|0 The argument is that doctors need them more Which is true|1 If Im not mistaken Rudy Gobert is patient 0 in Salt Lake City Its fairly important for data|1 Is Wuhan still on lockdown Any other areas as well|1 Sensitive yes well informed no Get your shit ass strawman out of here Ming|0 I just watched it last night and the similarities are pretty insane|1 Charleston here agreeing with you In the mid70s starting tomorrow and 80s by end of week|1 You have to consider the mentality of some though there are alot of people who would latch onto any opportunity to get clicks views Maybe not the super sick ones but the mild cases Especially people who are young and their identity is attached to social media|1 if it is h1n1 both times maybe if it is flub the second time then no|0 Hes predicting that richer countries wont do what this article recommends|1 We called our mortgage company to see about accommodations and they said we could skip a month pay the extra out in the next 3 months and take a HUGE hit to our credit Not a big help|1 how old are you lol Im an American in san Diego but I do live in china most the time|1 Chinese arithmetic is hard can someone helpSo Hubei report for Feb 13 has 51986 confirmed Hubei report for Feb 12 has 48206 confirmed Thats an increase of 3780 cases But the Feb 13 report indicates an increase of 4823 cases as does this threads OPWhat am I missing|1 Well theyre heavyduty antivirals so it makes sense|1 Although the panic might cause people with the flu to think they have corona and call their doctor|0 Thats fine in a vacuum but healthy people can also die from being too poor to eat or have a home because the economy is wrecked with no one making any money|0 How the hell is this even possable Is it that virulent|0 In raw numbers yes but I dont think in percentages Italy was a perfect storm|1 Testing is available to anyone with symptoms now as of the last hour with state labs being approved to handle it|1 sounds like UK has backed away under pressure but this explains the difficulty but doesnt really get at the political suicide it entailsx200Bhttpseandcowhybritainscoronavirusstrategyisliterallyoneofthemostinsanethingsinmodernhistory45c755f1db2dhttpseandcowhybritainscoronavirusstrategyisliterallyoneofthemostinsanethingsinmodernhistory45c755f1db2d|0 Well time to change things around instead of sticking to tradition Just because things have always been that way|1 Is there any data related to the virus that have been peerreviewed Plus what does peerreview mean when reviewer and reviewee share same interest|1 Who told you that you would also test positive for the flu |1 Terrific cover That really captures the incredible tension and suspended terror of the moment|0 Love the back and forth between sanity and insanity|1 The only time in the past few decades where CO2 emissions did not increase globally was in the midst of the recession of 2008You know what lets stop using plasting straws and cutlery people probably stopped using them in 2008 too hence the dip|0 True but the analysis here difference between today vs yesterday is extremely basic whereas talking about 2nd order rates is not as intrinsic to many people|1 guys he has a point theres a significant difference between confirmed cases and total known unknown casesdoesnt make it any less serious imo though|1 Introvert party |1 Why the 25th Just curious as its a Tuesday lol Whatve you prepped so far I have been too Lots of ramen soup rice canned stuff gloves masks etc|1 Ive just read the letter The vast majority are literally not experts in any relevant field Just look at the signatoriesThey have PhDs in theoretical particle physics and aeronauticsThey are lecturers in mathematics and chemistryThey are professors in astronomy and data scienceThey are students in computer science and in condensed matter physicsWhat an absolute fucking farce|0 Its alarming to say the least|0 Exactly thats why people need to care about why TUCKER CARLSON is calling it Chinese corona flu|1 We have reached a point in our civilization where you would hope we can have both cheap labor and human rights at the same time|1 They are disassembling also the Emergency hospitals that they built in the beginning|0 Where do you think all these people getting infected are getting it from You think the postal worker is treating patients|0 You implied it for sure by not specifying when responding to a comment that originally referred to world economies|1 Its a Democratic hoax I like the numbers where they are and I take no responsibility at all are a little more than just tone deaf let alone the blatant and dangerous lies like claiming it was contained in the US and cases would only go down or promising tests that never materialized or trying to cover for his administrations abysmal response by saying we had no time to prepare The virus might have originated in China but Trump will be responsible for the coming severity in the US It is not Chinas fault that the FDA and CDC couldnt get testing off the ground and insisted on a homegrown solution or that social interventions in the US have been and continue to be inadequate|1 Thats definitely written by someone thats pretty extreme on the cautious side There are also reports from others that you can live a quite normal life if you want|1 Good thing hospitals never have to worry about emergencies|1 Insular was a great way I saw it described once|1 If it is anything like the Spanish Flu it will rage in the spring die down in the summer and rage even worse in the fall Now that is just what the Spanish Flu did so no garauntees but seems reasonable|0 Then they will freak out and get angry at me maybe even cuss me out or scream|0 The EU is embarassingly bad at coordinating the state in self proclaimed charge only do whatever is good for them|0 Yes and Mayo Clinic Rochester MN is in deep need Donate if you can|1 How long do you thing that will take Will summer help make this more manageable so that normal life will resume or are we in a state of limbo until a vaccine half our population gets immunity to this|1 They were a bit late to their updates yesterday too hoping its nothing too serious |1 Yup noticed it too Maybe thats why he seems to be taking it a little more seriously now|0 Oh it hasnt yet My bad That was pure doom and gloom speculation on my part I am super hopeful for it because I fear the US will never go for chloroquine if it works because they cant profit from it|0 Careful youll get called a bootlicker if you point out that to be fired you need 2 hours of time off task per 10 hour shift lol|0 For people like this it will be soon then theyll regret it|0 And you are I dont doubt that there are tests kits in every state I do doubt that they are using them based on symptomatic diagnosis|1 Haha I just got off the phone with my mom Shes in the garden and still gives excellent advice Keeps me grounded|1 That should be illegal Youd think that one of the most powerful nations in the world would take care of their own people|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Horrifying|0 Ive had a scratchy throat for 8 days now It hasnt developed into anything else Because of that plus the time of year Im pretty sure its allergies at this point Fingers crossed at least|1 I just like the suck it and quit part|0 Im sorry but thats fucking ridiculous Id use a different rword if I want afraid of a ban the sheer either incompetency or willful ignorance is insane|0 Unless its a full face respirator donned and doffed in sterile conditions youre wasting your time|0 Exactly Its time for all of us to put them on and get out there and help our communities|1 How will we feed industry workers if we dont make bombsHow will we employ our youth if not as soldiers guarding poppy fieldsHow will we protect the populace if they are educated and allowed to make their own decisions|1 How did he get a test with no symptoms|0 Rupert Murdoch must have it or be terrified of it People did seem to be waking up in my group|0 Damn what a feeling Whelp at least I know 100 its right next time Kinda wish I was wrong more often|0 Yes that is how America is designed to operate It is beautifulEdit Go look up Federalism America is a Constitutional Federal Republic Words have meanings|1 There is a paywall but in the first part states It seems patients are also touched by a myocarditis viral because the agression of the heart is quite fast and strong He said that after losing a patient of 50 yo seemingly healthy Not sure of the reliability of that data though|1 In the US right now anyone in any situation where they can qualify for a mortgage and rustle up the money for a down payment IS IN ANOTHER CLASS than those who are renting period And trades are very lucrative so I dont know why you called him an artist originally I absolutely hate people who say things like its really not a lot of money if you buckle down For many renters that is NOT AN OPTION there is NO WIGGLE ROOM Its not like renters are stupid and dont realize theyd be better off not throwing their money down the drain They literally dont have options like this Their parents are renting too they never had a house everything is paycheck to paycheck theyd be out on the street from one sickness That is a whole different ballgame than those with whatever means to purchase a house Im not trying to attack you here but god I was hoping for a better answer than yeah my parents DID help with the downpayment after your original comment And on top of that you are basically landlords collecting rent from someone else too Like you do you but dont comment like you had a revelation one day and realized buying was better than renting and collected your barista tip money and bought one ffs|1 I think the best you can do is to call medical professional and explain your situation Make sure you outline your relation and contact with the infected person Good luck|1 Id expect lower cases today anywayIts the old British expectations that the world closes on a Sunday|0 Spoton Youve also got to have some idea of the total number of cases to determine the true death rate Just doing simple math with the numbers we have wont be accurate because so many people arent being tested|0 I know this is beside the point but god forbid our Olympics novelty hats have the wrong year on it Lol|0 Well that is one study I wouldnt take it as bible There are lots of spurious panic reports out there by experts and lots of reports saying all good dont panicThe dont panic ones never make it to reddit or get downvoted to hell I triedI frankly think China have done well with their reporting The information they have been giving us isnt pretty Sure there might be inconsistencies but ill take it at face value its all we have|0 Here in America we get 1000 maybe and probably have to pay taxes on it|0 Big cities with serious gang issues are gonna be bad people like that dream of days of social chaos where the cops and soldiers are to busy to respond to anything expect armed neighborhood groups to become a thing before too long|0 The best kind of correct|1 Im kinda getting scared right now|0 They werent prepared for the initial outbreak Im pretty sure they have a super strict protocol to follow now and wont get caught vulnerable again Its like getting sucker punched or something when the element of surprise is gone the threat is minimized|1 A pink slip I dont think the federal government bothers with dictionaries much any more|0 Yeah but trump doesnt care about us he has his money and hes happy he could care less about our well being but he forgets without people in the country he has no country to rule over|0 Trump trying to corner the market on an exclusive from the Germans America first and allhttpswwwdwcomengermanyanduswrestleovercoronavirusvaccinereporta52777990|1 Did u lose mod|0 Im a teacher and I get paid at the end of each month For some reason Im worried about my income because classes have been cancelled with no alternative for elearning in place not all students have internet access and I teach an elementary elective which doesnt have real grades However I am also assuming that the budget includes my salary so why wouldnt I get paid The email I received my my district said something about being in talks to ensure our pay as well as part time but why would that go awayIts just so strange to me that I have a salary that is somehow in jeopardy let alone millions of part time workers who have been affected since day 1EDIT First I want to say thank you to everyone being supportive and saying not to worry The world needs kindness now more than it needs toilet paperI also want to clarify that Im 9999 positive I will still get paid My salary is part of the districts budget I was just shocked that it was being addressed because I assumed that it was a given that I would still be paid Its surreal that they have to address it just so everyone knows and can feel comfortable|1 Got a winter lay off until April however I hope we go into lockdown people are not going to listen and its gonna keep spreading|1 This is pretty normal for someone who gets bad pneumonia I had it twice this fall and have permanent damage|0 I live in a food desert up until recently the closest grocery store was 15 miles away in a city with no car or bike I eat at restaurantsfast food at most once every 2 weeks but its sometimes unavoidable when you really need food are underprepared for some idiosyncratic reason and dont have time for the literal 90 minute round trip to a grocery store|0 Hospitalization rates are what 510 At last survey the US has a little under 9000000 hospital beds So 90000000180000000 people would have to get sick before we ran out of beds In what world do you see that number of people getting sick Id be shocked if a 100000 people get sick|0 Dont listen to people who are saying that the Chinese are bad people for eating wild animalsAMERICANS EAT WILD ANIMALS ALL THE TIME Its hypocritcal for an American to have disgust at Chinese people eating wild animals as it is a long running joke in America that hillbillies will eat anything even possums that they hit with their car|0 Dr Fauci for President He is genuinely a good person that cares straightforward and brilliant I trust him more than anyone else in the administration Thank god for him|1 Or hell say its positive even if it isnt and then pull through and then its back to square one with people thinking this is just the flu|0 SOUTH KOREA BEST KOREA|1 My daughter is in kindergarten and has repeatedly had to ask her teacher if she can wash her hands before breakfast lunch and snack Shes been told there isnt enough time to have everyone do that and eat I told her she needs to act like shes just going potty then because they cant tell her she cant potty at lunch I sent her with her own hand sanitizer as well Yesterday she came home excited because they finally let the kids use hand sanitizer before snack These kids are a fucking Petri dish and no one gives a fuck I emailed the principal to ask what the plans were in the event of closures and at what point parents can voluntarily withdraw their children without consequences regarding truancy The response I got was we are continuing to follow the guidelines from the CDC and local health officials and will update parents as information becomes available No talk of online learning programs no response to my question regarding truancy Im pretty irate about all of it Especially the hand washing thing|1 yep European comission has once again expressed their dissatisfaction with any country that wants to limit travel from italy They want this thing to spread in europe|0 actually this is a perfect sentiment having my supplies feels so good not just for this but other events it has also made me realize that i live in a state of mild level stress due to things i have not prepared for in the past i have kept the rule of in use and backup for things like dish soap laundry detergent toothbrushes etc but i have only had about a two to four weeks supply of things having more now feels very good it is somewhat like when i realized that there was a significant mental shift in stress level from having savings if this blows over there are a number of things i have contemplated but not acted on and as i look at the situation now full of regret on procrastinating i hope to have a chance to address them it really brings home living with that low level worry that seemed so easy to blow off was probably having an effect that i ignored because it just didnt seem pressing when i worked in an office one of the most clever things a coworker showed me was their birthday drawer it was filled with cards and small giftsthey never forgot a coworkers birthday|1 Im not Only edge lords were criticising the performance at the time The reception was overwhelmingly positive by the vast majority of peopledo you really think the queen parachuting into a stadium was worthy of a nations opening ceremonyIts certainly not a school play though is it Everyone is entitled to their opinion and Im not going to pretend like everyone liked it clearly there are people who didnt but its really quite pointless to shit on it 8 years later as if youre some kind of world art critic whos just woken up from a coma And to call it a school play is well off the mark|0 You can bet that private industry is more responsive and that private health care is of a higher quality Profit is a great motivator to get things done right and quicklyNearly all of the best health care facilities in the country are nonprofits The forprofit health care facilities in the country are almost all much lower quality health care facilities Monopoly power like that wielded by the government is the problem You need only look at our federal deficit and the fact that so little gets done to understand how well governmentrun business worksYet when you look at Medicare Advantage aka privatized Medicare and traditional Medicare aka government run Medicare traditional Medicare costs less has much larger provider networks and has higher satisfaction than privatized Medicare and employerprovided insurancehttpswwwinsurancecomhealthinsurancehealthinsuranceplanratings Theres a reason why people travel to the US for their care if they can afford to do itMore Americans actually leave the US for care than people come to the US for are Thats not a pretty picture|1 The CDC wrote transmission of SARSCoV2 to persons from surfaces contaminated with the virus has not been documentedSource httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcommunityelectionpollinglocationshtmlIf true isnt this huge Wouldnt it mean that you would have to be in physical proximity with someone shedding the virus to get it|1 agreed|1 i can tell you im prepping since you got no way to reach me anyway|0 Diamond princess with 218 cases alone being blocked in the Japan sea has absolutely nothing to do with the 247 number of cases in Japan oh wait|0 These theme parks and casinos that dont close and the tourists visiting them are all ignorant|0 Wonder if he feels bad now for letting politics and money dictate the early response or lack thereofEdit just to be clear I dont really give a shit if he feels bad|0 Interesting I wonder if the sane holds true for former smokers|1 People that havent stocked up with toilet roll already wont have to pretend soon|1 Like all the comments liking the article That shows the impact of our comunity Like everything that will help this unfortunate person It may be the only help he gets|1 Might be sick might just be tired af from acting as president during a global crisis|0 1 It makes absolutely sence for Trump to want the vacine first2 As if Germany has no money Why is the german government confirming this Why didnt the US administration communicate it with the german government first 3 Your Opinion clearly isnt the only logical option|1 Thanks I love this community|1 We dont get 100 of the UV the sun radiates directly into our skin Did you even go to middle school The ozone reduces the danger of the sun by filtering the UV|0 Well I mean you wont be seeing all of us next year|1 You dont have shit for rights when the governor declares a state of emergency|1 If tom hanks died to this there will be full on panic mode|0 They are already there Just not in hyperlink form I will go add them for you though No problem|0 Hahait is for the other morons on the internet I had to double check the values in FI am just worried about my parents I hope India snaps out of denial and starts taking big steps|1 I will say it on positive stories as earnestly as I say it on negative ones stop treating Chinese people like they are hiveminded ants There are more than a billion of them more than all of the US and Europe combined Jack Ma is one person not China|1 Similar to the 36 year old in Nebraska who was well enough to be playing at a basketball game on Wednesday and ended up in the hospital on Thursday then transferred to critical care on Fridayhttpswww3newsnowcomnewsnationalcoronaviruslivehealthdepartmentsprovideupdateonnebraskasfirstcoronaviruscasehttpswwwomahacomlivewellnebraskahealthnebraskasfirstcoronavirusdiseasepatientistransferredtobiocontainmentarticlec9d8ac8b54e15aee841bb7b15ec94873html|1 Im not talking about a building Im talking about the true Church of God I have only Love for the lost its all the Churches have you any idea about the Apostasy well if you did you would know|1 Its like a decade old at this point|1 How do we know this We know we cant trust the data out of china fine if you dont want to listen to peer reviewed data then i dont know what to say|0 I read a post from Italian redditors last week saying people were insisting on going to confession even after the quarantines began The result The priests are ending up in the ICUs Apparently THAT scared some of the older folks into taking it seriously This is all a psychology experiment from hell PLUS the a pandemic|0 Thanks for the clarification The chart shows Bahrain at 19|1 Thank you That is helpful to know|1 This is the most bad ass looking thing I have ever seen in my life|1 Its called Trump Welcome to a dictatorship|1 Ya I know I just want an ounce of optimism today And the fact is 99 means 1 couldve been messed with thats actually a lot of genetic code But maybe this gets independent verification|1 Of course hes going How long is it going to take to get all those results back Because Ive got an engagement on the 20th of February he told KOMO News adding he speaks on suicide prevention and wouldnt get paid if he didnt make it|0 That mixed with some incredibly racist comments What a dumpster fire|0 So Ive gotten the flu shot every year since I was little because everyone in my family did in no small part to protect my dad while he was going through chemo The year he died I said fuck it and didnt get the shot Got the flu for the first time ever in my life and yeahthought I was dying Doctor actually tested me for Mono because of how absolutely wrecked I was|0 look at the two charts posted by the doctor on spread look closely The goal is roughly the same if not more people actually coming down with it just keeping it on a curb Understanding graphs is key because they arent gonna come out and tell the public the intention is to allow small chunks to get sick at a time thats awful sounding to most ignorant individuals of how viruses work They did the same thing with swine flu filtering it through 60 million ended up with it and nobody even remembers it|0 I havent read through all of its citations but this article states wet market is a market selling fresh meat fish produce and other perishable goods as distinguished from dry markets which sell durable goods such as fabric and electronics httpsenwikipediaorgwikiWetmarkethttpsenwikipediaorgwikiWetmarket So the term wet market doesnt necessarily indicates the facility is flooded with water on the floor It simply states meat fish and produce aka perishable agricultural products are sold there as opposed to dry market which sells nonfoodstuff All grocery stores meet this definitionIf we associate the all wet markets with the 2019 corona virus then were labeling all grocery stores world wide with it Now do you see the ridiculousness of it|1 when has a coronavirus been as infectious deadlyA disease being novel is not evidence that its been genetically engineered All diseases were once novel Oh and literally have 3 separate genes only found in HIV Theres many genes shared across species Humans have dna with sequences similar to viruses That is not compelling evidence that the virus was genetically engineered Youre making rational errors similar to people who fail to understand evolution through natural selection The fact that we share 95 of our dna with chimpanzees does not demonstrate that we evolved from chimps but rather that we share a common ancestor The only thing that having a few genes in common shows is that both viruses use those genes It doesnt demonstrate their origin Those genes could be shared in all viruses or could have evolved independently If a very long genetic sequence were shared then that would be suspect but thats not the case Ill tell ya how Fucking BIOWEAPON you must be pretty stupid to actually think that the virus originated from a seafood market Lol Um Yeah Researchers showed years ago that there were viruses like this virus that only needed a few mutations to cause a human epidemic Its entirely plausible that this happened naturally But the fact is we simply dont know Either it evolved naturally or the lab in wuhan made very minor changes to make it infectious to humans I would say both are equally likely Whats not likely is that this was tailor made We are not smart enough to custom engineer viruses Yet But hey your stupid enough to have all the evidence and still buy into the bullshit your masters try to feed youAs hominem attacks shows your weakness Tell me something Is there a difference between a Caucasian and an African Genetically obviously Yes Different races have genetics that are unique to that set of people This is not entirely true Theres no such thing as a race biologically speaking There are unique human populations The distinction is important Race is based on skin color populations is based on genetics If you were engineering a bioweapon with a specific purpose in mind Would you integrate that purpose into the weaponEven though there is human genetic variation thereby not much variation Most other species have more variation than humans Genetically speaking we look like a bunch of clones Oh and btw statistics are showing that the mortality rate for Asians is much higher than whats being found in Italy and Iran Thats the basis for that theory and I personally dont believe its race specific but like all things its possibleYes but there could be other possible explanations 1 Fatalities are Miley caused by a lack of treatment caused by overburdened hospitals We havent reached that point yet 2 China suppressed awareness causing the infection to blow up in their face Other countries have an opportunity to slow its spread and prevent hospital overruns 3 There could be cultural differences such as Chinese markets New York may be more susceptible than Los Angeles due to cultural differences etc even though theres no significant genetic differences between the two cities You sound so certain in your position and thats a good indicator that you have no idea what youre talking about Good luck being wrong in the future|1 For some people yes I mean hey if you dont take the risk you cant get the reward Why shouldnt that work in this situation too|1 Gah that sucks I hope youre treated quickly and get over whatever youre in there for soon|1 What about controlling for ancillary factors People on cruise ships are likely to have above average socioeconomic standing Not sure how strong a role that plays in this yet All the population samples I saw out of china dont account for level of means the patient had|0 DoubleDogDamned Dumbass|0 How that twitter thread is full of propaganda Its like watching a crime in real timeNo mention of what AG Barr had prioritized previously so this statement is weak|0 The Chinese got to fight the powerhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv2WHe5fxS3dAhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv2WHe5fxS3dAFor inspiration|1 Yup as soon as I read the uninsured will be reimbursed I knew I couldnt get a test Reimbursement is not free it means you must have the money for it upfront how much is the test and enough money to cover your other expenses while you wait how long for that reimbursement All my work is in performance arts I will have no work for the foreseeable future aka Im fucked I cant touch my tiny savings for a test when it would mean not paying next months rent or food or bills while I wait for reimbursement You want to contain the virus Make testing free and make it plenty|0 People dont want it shut down people want it isolated and tested|0 Sounds like my angst with buses I always go to the far back seats is possible|1 Its not When you fly over any major city the spread of humanity looks just like a cancer spreading across Earth There are good individuals trying to reduce their footprint but they still have a footprint Its like comparing a particularly aggressive type of cancer vs a less aggressive variety|0 Well im heading there this weekend for a bachelor party lol We got an airbnb so probably just end up swimming in the pool all weekend|1 This is absurd Our ancestors werent saying this crap during the Black Death or when war was simply a fact of life or when famines ravaged their nations|0 Essential means ok to go to work|1 Truth is antiCCP|1 Eventually the deaths in Italy will be like having a plane crash every single day|0 My Aunt and Uncle just returned from traveling around Asia for a few months and they were shocked by how light the screening was|0 I think its too early to say that 40 to 70 will be infected since the data may not be reliable enough plus more and more research is being done every hour of every day so I think effective treatments will be found sooner than later also more and more people are getting more aware of the virus so theyll be taking more precautions to not get it the infection rate will be lowered especially with the rampant media coverage of it people are going to be more prepared for it So I dont think a few million may be infected but nothing to that scale Lastly I think its too early to make those predictions and the best thing we can do is prepare and take action against it On an unrelated I also think the big fear surrounding this is because of the death toll but I think if you are a healthy adult with adequate lungs you will be fine even if you contract it you will most likely be fine Also its reported that 82 of all of the symptoms are mild so furthermore even if 4070 get infected it doesnt mean they will die infact it is most likely that they will recover|0 Please note questions are to be asked on the AMA thread in rCoronavirus The guest will not be answering questions here Thank you|1 I think 550k would be a low estimate for a city like Wuhan|1 Not sure if youve gotten an update from your mom yet or not but my boyfriends mom lives in Roatan and read that the lady removed from the cruise ship just had dengue fever|0 This is why I feel like this is going to drag on for a long time If half the country is quarantined and the other half isnt they are just delaying the bad half from giving it to them|0 Good point taken You are right|1 youre going to get tired of so much virus|0 I remember reading those articles as well and thinking they dont make sense Holland America is or should be in big big trouble over this|0 Care to speculate as to why you think this is false Serious question Its happening all around us already Why do you think it wont happen here|1 Just so you know the PIS government is taking all the necessary steps to protect their citizens Rest of Europe is falling|1 If you are a single mum or dad with 3 kidsDont be a single mum or dad with 3 kids then I get that some people end up that way through no fault of their own but in general it speaks of some poor life choices|0 Everything I read about it from the start was terrifying to me They werent fluff pieces Things talking about the cytokine reaction to just how fast the thing reproduces It sounded like a viral brush fire with a total overcompensation resulting in some outcomes in ARDsmicro holes in lungs multiple organ damageWheeeeNothing about that looked typical to me Its been like a snowball of oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck rolling down a hill|0 How is the swine flu mild when it infected 60 million and killed over 500000|0 I will be curious to see if our medical system fares worse than a lesser funded socialized healthcare system The dread most people have of the financial consequences of an ER visit will probably delay some from seeking care|0 Yes good idea They should requisition places likes Centre Parcs and Butlins then bus in healthy volunteers like you to experiment on and hopefully gain knowledge quickly The death rate will be lower than for atrisk groups and on top of wages they could give you a medal with a small pension and a free military burial The survivors once they are no longer carriers can then work for the greatly enlarged national homedelivery serviceSuggest it to Dominic Cummings|1 Its a virus not nuclear waste A proper fogging with any number of disinfectants will pretty much sanitize the ship|1 Hell give us the run down|0 Dont be fooled by our low number Weve done jack shit to contain the virus Were panicking at this point Our political leaders know theyve fucked up and doing damage control|0 Baselworld at the end of april has already been postponed until february 21|0 gotta infect a loooooot more people before herd immunity starts giving function protection to the most vulnerable|1 But then wouldnt we have seen a lower CFR on the diamond princess if trueIts my understanding that we did|1 Maybe because you are a little crazy There have been 3 deaths outside of China so far|0 Thats not how that works though In a surgical mask it actually can trap pathogens if it fits incorrectly|0 Sorry youre right|0 Only a simpleton will compare engineering a border wall with fighting a novel virus|0 Well hopefully|1 No one disagrees with you Also no one is talking about shutting down nonessential civilian travel The person I originally replied to was talking about shutting borders Period|0 Thanks|1 Bat Really Wtf kind of meat is on a bat to make it worthwhile How hungry do you have to be|0 That explains why they have to test so many times and how they have let people go after several negative tests What a joke Are they doing the shit on purpose|1 He learned his lesson Be smarter Find better grifting victims|1 I dont think my comment was subjective Donald Trump is objectively doing a really bad job|0 They are also not testing the really sick that cannot make it out of their house or bed or have already died in their home How many elderly live by themselves in Italy How often do they get checked on by friends or neighbors This is a giant unknown|0 I feel like we are all playing carona roulette with our own and other peoples lives|1 Im trying to convince my family to stock up on supplies before something happens my country doesnt have confirmed cases but we had 7 suspected cases that were negative|0 As a Kiwi myself I appreciate this A lot Hope youre feeling okay|1 News media in the states doesnt give a fuck unless it effects the states Pretty gross but when you live here your whole life but travel abroad a lot it really becomes clear|1 you can legally keep chickens in a private home in NYC I saw a turkey in a community garden before you can pick a live goat or sheep in bushwick for slaughter|1 This is a bit misleading different countries are testing differently and this has changed over timeLook at whats happening in ICUs to find out how close you are to Italy|0 thank you|1 beating up some Chinese people Well its a good way to get infected if one of them have coronavirus|0 Playing what up Im a health professional and in my life in such meetings Ive never seen anyone so clearly having no idea what hes talking about HIV is not going to be eliminated in the developed world in 10 years 10 years ago was not so horrible Weve had effective treatments since 1996 and 1 pill per day treatment for over 15 years Its unfortunate that any time was wasted on talking to this man|1 Thanks for the answerWhen you write ACE2 will in all likelihood continue working normally has this been tested at all in humans|1 Forty Six 2 dead|0 Judging from his diet Im sure thatll never be the case|1 believes community spread will be worse if students dispersed at homeDear god That line of thinking is literally INSANE and goes against everything we know about the spread of illness through schools|0 Yeaaaah Ive noticed this already and was like wow yall really will capitalize off anything huh|1 I am from Germany and Im mit surprised Our government is a complete failure|0 Yeah Good idea with late night runs not as many people will be out then unless everyone does late night runs|1 From what I understand they are doing it under the guise of a research project and not as a medical service IE they are preparing a report about spread of COVID19 so they test a lot of samples for COVID19 and should one test positive they must of course inform that persons doctor even though as a research project the test results are research results not medical results aka nobody there gives a crap what the paperwork says but testing is happening so they are going with itedit the research project wasnt set up for this particular scenario but rather is an ongoing research project studying flu and flulike diseases httpsseattlefluorgHowever since they are already doing tons of flu tests they had the capability to switch to COVID19 testing and start their own test and since they are a research project and not a medical service they are not regulated by CDC They also cant officially do medical COVID19 testing but at this point even an unofficial wontholdupincourt answer is useful to tell which patients need to be isolated and which ones can be sent home with a can of chicken soup Its my understanding not authoritative info that Seattle Flu Study has tested several hundred samples for COVID19 They were also the first to find a positive sample in Washington state Their numbers of course are not medical numbers and thus cant be added to any diagnostic totals|0 When the death count reaches a million or more people will be glad to wear masks|0 2000 total to my wife and I would significantly alleviate most of our anxieties about the current situation|0 Correct Same tactic I use with todays politics as well|1 If he dies so does pretty much all credibility and confidence this country hasHe took those out into the woods and shot them about three years ago mateThe rest of us are just waiting to see how spectacularly it all falls apart over there|1 Mi sa di si lavoro e spesa sono ok |1 This title is so misleading not cool|0 Bad scifi and disaster movies should be part of the curriculum for all prospective WHO officials|0 I made a new account today to try and use Reddit again because I fuckin hate it and the first comment I read which is a top comment is someone acting like US politicans EVER gave a fuck about anyone but themselvesWow|0 Im also asthmatic and I had similar problems where Im at 34 days ago I started feeling off headaches followed by night sweats and a lot of coughing needless to say I barely slept Contacted my GP about it and got an appointment He asked me what I do for a living where Im from and if I have an inhaler I havent used it in over a year He prescribed me 2 inhalers and told me if it happens that after 2 puffs my breathing doesnt get better to call an emergency service And thats about it Missed classes this week and I am considering not going into work on Saturday I work as a waitress in a VERY busy restaurantI do feel much better now my breathing is fine and last night I slept like a baby luckily Next week I will see if I am able to stay at home I dont want to leave my house unless its absolutely necessary |0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Yo this might sound crazybut I swear bill gates did it|0 We had a month and a half to prepare for thisWHO a month ago With China clamping down they are giving the rest of the world an opportunity to get readyRest of the world sits on their hands Outbreak is in China and contained there No worries|1 I have probably 1718 Usernames I came back to this one to ground myself for the plague Best wishes to you and yours|1 On the contrary in fact the vulnerable and over 70s are to be told to stay home Meanwhile a lot of people who are less vulnerable will catch the virus and probably develop immunity Once this has happened to x amount of people the elderly and vulnerable will be far less prone to catch the virus due to the decrease in its R0 from so many now being immune Hopefully this decrease in R0 will be enough for the virus to gradually fizzle outSo in fact the young and healthy are being sacrificed to protect the old and vulnerable The alternative is to stay in lockdown until cases die down but then what happens when people begin going out again The virus will still be there and cases will once again shoot up back into lockdown we go This whole time the economy is tanking and very little progress is being made against the virus A vaccine could take years to develop|1 I said the law is on its way outWay out does not mean it is actually not in the law in the first place Yes imagine what you can get a starving terrified refugee already conditioned to obey any authority to do after several months in a reintegration camp if you wanted to I didnt even say Korea was authoritarian or was a bad place I literally said they are capable of doing it if they still wanted to and you are going off into fantasy land chimping out Change your diaperredacted And you sure US will not crack down a communist revolution to overthrow the govt by sending National Guard Admit it its the same all the way everywhere Korean govt will get flak and the ruling party will fail to win the election for years if any violation of human rights happens universally in the way you described|0 statistical noise the trend is up until it is clearly downx200Bchina virus knew it could only kill 626364 each day via fixed equation italy virus appears to operate under different rules|0 Sure I dont want to take from others so i was out of wipes in general so instead of getting one 3pk like normal I got 2 No need to get 15|1 Im really not sureI think the administrative staff and faculty are working on the best information we have to try to provide students with what they need to be successful academically So far we havent seen a rise in employee absenteeism and were anticipating St Patricks day to be as festive as always so I dont see the students modulating their behaviour much yetSr Admin is working with public health officials and the sr Admins at other institutions the senior admin including presidents have professional organizations and councils they sit on to monitor this and make their decisionsIve been following this as closely as anyone I know Post secondary institutions are notoriously slow moving and Im stunned at how quickly plans are being developed Thats not to say they couldnt do more or it will ultimately be enough but time will tell|1 They tried to make me go there I said no|0 Start out healthy end upnothttpsmedia2giphycommedial2SpU9zonMIt74tVesourcegif|1 Yeah fair I didnt read this particular article but I think what Im saying about the general attitude stands And Im not replying directly to the article Im replying to this comment about it being obvious to a lot of people that what the Pentagon is saying would be the case|1 Which makes it pretty good news that SK is reporting those figures given they have the most data to hand I guess|1 I know the feeling At the beginning I was concerned for my children but now Im concerned for my 80 yr old grandma|1 My kids daycare is still open Definitely not going but doesnt make sense|1 I work downtown at a poplar tourist attraction and I just might not show up to work during SXSW|1 Good point Though how many Daily Mail Daily Express Telegraph etc editors are going to read this stuff and report it to people unless the death rate is the days top headline I seriously doubt that the government could take the action that is required unless these propaganda outlets of the corporations and the wealthy are overridden by public concern Only our deaths can wrestle control back from the power and money into the hands of the people A sobering thought|0 Its a really bad look if a country doesnt protect its own citizens which also have their own rights as citizens|0 Is reverse devils advocate Gods advocate Does this mean if youre advocating for anything then you are Gods advocate I dunno man|0 Desoxyn the prescribed form of methamphetamine is only the dextro entiomer of meth Street methamphetamine is racemic meaning 5050 dexmethamphetaminelevomethamphetamineLevomethamphetamine is commonly used in OTC decongestant medications like Vicks vapo inhalers and has no recreational valueDexmethamphetamine is way more recreational than racemic|1 USA didnt cut anything The fake president did|0 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 I agree wholeheartedly The best part is CDC only tested 400 as of last weekend Yeah if you dont test there are no cases What a shitshow|1 Its more that 14 days Thats already established Why are we not going with pessimistic decision making ffs|0 And that means 1 in 5 get severecritical symptoms Everyone is going to know people that died from this Even if youre one of the lucky ones you may still pass it on to someone who wont be so lucky|1 Yup When the coast is clear clear them and off they go Or something|1 The number of infected individuals was very low in the beginning and there is also a time delay between being infected and needing hospitalisation|0 I would say there is a difference between quitting and staying clean Quitting smoking is a nuisance but is very doable and nothing compared to an opiate detox In the long term an addict with a years clean time is in a good position to stay clean while an ex smoker might start back smoking at the bar over drinks or whatever That being said heroin relapse rates are still very high So in my opinion quitting smoking is definitely easier but continued abstinence is trickier|1 Thats the spirit Please dont trust blindly and also not distrust blindly|1 ohh divx water mark Good ole times|1 There is a much higher rate of travel in the US and that travel has not stopped completely The spread might start more slowly at first but the exponential spread will remain exponential until people stop traveling and bringing the virus to other microcommunities Once a virus has reached a community the spread will be exponential with respect to that community regardless of the population density largely due to the long incubation period and the likelihood that the virus can be spread through presymptomatic and possibly asymptomatic individuals Some smaller rural communities in the US may be spared once the moderate quarantines and travel restrictions take place provided there is no community exposure to the virus But barring some miracle the virus will not be containable across vast swaths of the population until heavier mandatory quarantines and 0 travel restrictions are put into place|1 The real threat is denial There I said something different|0 Ignorant I saw it directly thru what happened to my brother and saw all the other homeschooled kids Good lord|1 Not good If 13 of medical personnel get infected we are screwed|0 The problem is there being a public health policy in the first place Its not daddy governments job to make sure you dont get AIDS|0 I literally had no idea this game was coming out Thanks |1 Wasnt toilet plume a serious concern with OG SARS|1 That plus its only the flu|0 I live in Florida Just about everything is cancelled or closed But outofstate spring breakers still came and filled up our beaches We only just got our first mobile testing unit today|0 I think the theory is that closures and containment slow it down and the longer we slow it down the closer we get to a vaccine China slowed it down a ton If every country would do that we might have a vaccine out before its worked its way though the world and killed millions|0 Hero Amazing human being|1 Yea people have no grasp that a company just cant pay its employees for weeks on end with nothing being sold Itd be nice just not going to happen they need to suspend mortgagesrent until its under control and go from there|0 Its much worse than that For what we are seeing its 20 of people who gets in severecritical state most of them needs icu beds plus all the other 80 of mild cases some have pneumonia and needs normal beds to track down the problem but I think theres not enough data to know how many of those requires hospitalization By the way the idea is to delay this on time so this doesnt happen at once|0 Thank you for your kind words I appreciate it |1 Well bright side Maybe this is the last year of the rat youll have to deal with|1 I think critical care in the UK might extend to HDU high dependency unit one step away from Intensive Care|1 Yeah I just saw that I apologize for getting the number wrong|0 Not so bold prediction time Over the next week the vast majority of businesses go ahead and go on lockdown mainly because the social pressure of being the one business in your area being seen not caring or not trying We make it a week or two whatever pace we have been averaging for daily cases drops a bit the first sign that isolation is working and businesses start opening back up first week of April with the see it was no big deal crew gaining ground in the Facebook war Meanwhile dirt cheap flights and hotel rooms an extended spring break no crowds and being constantly reminded of the fact that if youre young and healthy its almost no personal risk leads to epic coronacation 2020 parties for a small minority of the college crowd Finally dispersing back to their respective universities just in time for everyone to give up on strict isolation The gulf coast gets hit hard and fast Locals follow their hurricane plans to try to get out of dodge as hospitals start to get overwhelmed taking it with them through the southeast and Coronavirus sweeps through the rest country by the end of AprilEDIT I am not a doctor nor an expert in a related field but I would recommend checking out Doctor Mikes updates on YouTube for ongoing information Alert not anxious httpswwwyoutubecomchannelUC0QHWhjbe5fGJEPz3sVb6nw|1 IMPORTANT CDC said that children infected with COVID19 may present with Nausea Vomiting and DiarrheaThe first US cade of COVID19 a man in Snohomish Washington also presented with nausea vomiting and other GI symptoms Thats actually why he went to the doctor for GI issues The other symptoms like fever and respiratory problems came laterCDC page on Children COVID19 httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovpreparechildrenfaqhtmlQuote Reported symptoms in children include coldlike symptoms such as fever runny nose and cough Vomiting and diarrhea have also been reported|0 Same about 2 or 3 weeks ago me and every other person at my college were sick Could have just been a cold though like you said well never knowunless we get sick again soon|0 This city is a disaster Dont feel safe at all living here anymore Very glad that Im moving next month for unrelated reasons|0 Insert Fresh Prince here|1 I just canceled my wedding which was supposed to take place in 2 weeks in Vegas Were from the Bay Area in California a hot spot and I knew over a week ago that it was a bad idea I got a lot of shit from people when I canceled a few days ago but now it seems everyone has come around I dont want to send literally every person in the world that I love on a trip right now Well get married some other time who cares|1 Yeah that logic is working perfectly for educational outcomes in the US s|1 Thats ridiculous There are probably 2000 cases in WA right now the hardest hit state It isnt too late|0 fuck|0 This is a creepy and shitty thing to say about a 14 year old|0 Smart move Appease the virus by offering our first borns|1 If you just showed me those 4 graphs and I were a hoaxer I would probably say see Everyone gets over it and everything goes back to normal faster if we just dont worry about it and continue as normal I mean the cases do go to zero faster on the top left than on the bottom right|1 I agree In his mind the entire disease is liberal propaganda to take down Trump i dont understand this mindset especially when he himself is stating to stay inside and self quarantine|1 If all the professors die theyre gonna be losing a lot more This is more important to weather One storm at a time ok|0 Dont worry all these businesses are going to go out of business soon anyway|1 Gives new meaning to the word shares|1 I mean taking what China says with a grain of salt isnt a necessarily bad thing but this time the gamble didnt work|1 I agree with Dollar Tree There are some good bargains there Thats where I get my latex helium balloons for birthday parties|1 Haha whoa this should be up higher just a bit|1 Everybody I know its STILL saying its just the flu or that covid19 swept through in December|0 This is an antibody isolated from a genetically engineered animal so I wouldnt go out and regard it as safe without testing But if they had isolated from a human that has recovered from the disease then I think that it is unethical not to give it to humans even without safety checks Every year countless people get animal produced antiserums that have 0 testing In one of the biggest crisis in human history I think an antibody isolated in a human should be considered safe But that is just me|0 The British will do their stiff upper lip thing and grin and bear itTheyre pragmatic when it comes down to itDue to the virulence of this virus the only real way to stop the exponential increase weve seen is the kind of draconian lock downs and social distancing weve seen in ChinaI cant see the US being as compliant The Chinese have a great sense of national identity and unity and I dont attribute any of that to the CCP|1 Im a realtor for commercial real estate in Sweden Not shaking hands is neigh impossible but Im glad we dont have cheek kissing here|1 Murdoch is clearly an issue But its borne of much more than Murdoch|1 The reality is that no one is prepared for this you think that EuropeMiddle EastAfricaMexicoCanadaAustraliaEtc is any better equipped Youre looking at this as if the grass is greener on the other side of the oceanEveryones healthcare system is going to be stretched to the absolute limit if this hits worse case scenario Im tired of American redditors constantly screeching about how bad they have it in America meanwhile Italy is considering murder charges for anyone leaving their house without reason|0 Yes I understand your intentions and I appreciate your intentions to make it easier on everyoneI feel like care homes as you say are likely to be hit as people who work there often do not get paid enough to make provisions for sick leave and people notoriously come to work ill same in hospitals|1 Urban areas should be sufficiently dense even if large parts of the continent are empty|0 One does it by manipulating the system through large money bribes The other doesnt have that optionYes billionaires make their money manipulating the system through large money bribes and everyone else arent billionaires because they dont have that option BrilliantYou need capital to grow capital Go through a list of the richest men in the US and take note of who inherited their wealthActually financial success is tightly correlated with IQ which is mostly heritable You being an idiot isnt necessarily your fault but it does mean that having the requisite IQ for that kind of success is something that you dont have an option to doMaybe read a book and learn about the advances of all rungs of society in quality of life instead of crying that you dont have all the fancy shit you see on instagram or that you have to work hard to live a life people of the past could only dream of|0 Ill look into doing that then|0 Dude just imagine what would happen to everyone who claims God will protect me if the Pope himself got it and died Mass hysteria among people who already are spreading the disease like crazy via public gatherings Theres 100 good reason to not admit it|0 I use mine regularly on public transit I wash my hands at work or home So I usually have travel size bottles and one regular size bottle They usually last awhile Also Im working from home as of next week was off most of this week So I figure Ill be using less since Im home|0 Ahh I see thank you Very helpful|1 Got it friend I would choose BillG too if Dr John wasnt around and being so awesome |1 Are young people also being affected to a critical stage Reports coming out of spain and everywhere else Im scared|0 Dad died a few months ago and then my only grandparent thats still alive acted like a cunt in the months leading up to his death My mom is young enough that it wont kill her So yeah I dont give a shit|1 The chinese took it very seriously after things got wrong in wuhan|0 Truly disgusting response|0 60k subscriber as well I remember when every 5 hours top was full of new posts Now theres so many people here it seems to take a lot longer to cycle through|1 Well i am in NL and that is partially true Social activity is still a thing here Children are playing in my backyard everyday like it is holiday Parents are also around I find that their ignorance is above any sort of morale Unless government take this seriously people will remain ignorant|1 Better hope their first viable vaccine isnt too shitty Everyone will be forced to take it|1 No worries And another source that can give some basic backgrounder on how some of this worksis of all things an anime and manga series called Cells At Work that heavily covers immune cells in particular In my case Im going to use a LOT of computer metaphors as there really are a lot of similaritiesSo what reverse transcriptase doesto understand that lets actually go a little into how DNA and RNA workWe know DNA pretty much what our cells use for their genetic code including how they make proteins and such When a cell is using some of this code to actually send instructions on how to make a protein to its organelles it transcribes this to RNAusually mRNAwhich then exits the nucleus and goes to the ribosomes which use this info to build proteinshttpswwwatdbiocomcontent14TranscriptionTranslationandReplication These proteins in turn build you and your cellsAgain probably a good way to think of this is a computeryou have a central server with code the nucleus and from there it might have a Git server which is a really common way for open source programs to distribute code You can go to the website using either git as a tool or via a regular web browser and download code that youd configure for your own systemand for some systems your server might even push the new code to clients this would be the equivalent of the nucleus transcribing the RNA and sending it to the ribosomes You then can use this code for say building an Arduino application like control the motors for this 3D printer using something like Arduino IDE this is the equivalent of the ribosomes using that mRNA to build a proteinWhat a retrovirus like HIV does isit essentially has a program written in RNA on How To Make Virusesbut instead of just using the ribosomes themselves acting like mRNA instructions it actually uses a specific protein called reverse transcriptase to essentially decompile the viral code to DNAand then stick it in the cells genetic code So retroviruses in a way actually act like real life malware the most of noncomputer viruses This actually makes it really tough for the bodys defenses to stop the virus and the virus can actually hijack things more efficientlyGetting back to our computer metaphorlets imagine you had some kind of virus or worm or trojan horse program that existed that would actually have a builtin decompiler to make compilable code of itself submitted the decompiled code to the Git server as a security patch to of all things an antivirus program and from now on everyone who compiled that program or even got a precompiled versiongot a copy of that virus with their antivirus which will spread that virus to other computers which will decompile itself and submit itself to other Git servers This is in essence how HIV worksMost RNA viruses are positive sense RNA viruses which is to say the order of how things are programmed and the genetic equivalent of zeroes and ones goes the same way as with mRNA produced in the cell Theres a less common form of RNA virus called a negative sense cell whichagain to use a computer metaphoris a lot like trying to use code designed for an Intel processor which is littleendianthat is the smaller or least significant bits and digits go on the left and trying to run it on a Freescale Dragonball which is a processor based on the Motorola 68000 series that is bigendianthat is it expects the bits and digits to go the other way around with the least significant or smaller digits on the right It usually doesnt go well unless you set a flag to compile for bigendian or littleendian or have something to translate between the two although its far less an issue nowadayshttpsenwikipediaorgwikiEndiannessnegativesense RNA viruses essentially set the endianness using an RNA replicase that flips things around to the right way to be read as mRNA and uh surreptitiously use the ribosomes to make more virusesNow when youre making RNAyou normally need DNA as a template Positive sense RNA viruses the ones whose viral RNA has the same endianness as mRNA from the nucleus actually have a neat way to get around this problemtheir virus genetic code actually codes for a specific proteinan RNAdependent RNA polymerase or RdRPthat is itself a protein framework for making virus RNA without having to hijack the genetic code of the cell at allTo continue our computer metaphorslets imagine theres a different virus now but one not infecting Git servers but spreading itself through a malicious plugin for the Arduino IDE itself which compiles the virus in all code and ALSO spreads via merely connecting via USB to an Arduino infected by the viruswhich installs the bad plugin to the Arduino IDEincluding and especially when the Arduino doesnt perform well or locks up because its making many copies of the bad plugin Thats in essence how COVID19 worksMore in second post|0 that was one video dont blow it out of proportion if you dont have hard evidence Youll just add to the already high stress level and no one needs that And by the way God please save our kids|1 yeah no shit|0 you underestimate how many people are incapable of cooking|0 True Not sure why youre getting downvoted Lots of petitions end nowhere Its only when people in power decide something should change that something does change|1 They explained that further widespread testing is pointless If you have symptoms then isolate Hospitals are already making the necessary preparations for patient care Masks at large events are pointless They are useful only for health professionalsYou cannot burn it out React to aggressively then you will push it into winter and have even bigger problemsTheres nothing you have said that wasnt covered by the scientificmedical advice and pandemic plan|1 I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD DO THIS awesome|1 No all in different areas|0 Now imagine what the world has truly been like for centuries when people have claimed atrocities that the masses vehemently denied|1 Couldve taken earlier action instead of trying to cover it up at first resulting in the significance of this outbreak in the first place|1 Pulled mine last Friday We cannot wait for authorities to do anything Theyve proven time and time again they waited to long for anything The schools WILL shut down if their is a certain absent Lets make it happen Pull your kids now|1 I wonder which cunt advisor told him to keep saying follow the science Sounds a little like get brexit done will of the people etc etc|0 Whats this we business Half of us have fought this kicking and screaming from day one|0 Pretty much any mask is better than nothing N95 is the best thoughAnd for the people who are antimask Yes masks work thats why healthcare professionals use them It is not hard to properly wear a mask Search youtube for Wear N95 Mask Yes they can cause other people to be concerned We need people healthy and concerned not comforted and sick Yes there can be a shortage You can make a mask at home that is almost as good as an N95 mask Search youtube Yes it does not cover the eyes wear swimming googles as well Any protection is better than nothing|1 I dont think people are giving the Police enough praise The Police will be just as vital in the next few months as healthcare staff120k police officers vs 106430 doctors 285893 nurses 132673 scientific therapeutic and technical staff with an extra 20k Ambulance and Paramedic StaffTo any police officers of staff reading this thank you and good luck|1 Ask the banks to stop mortgage payments Ask the governments to stop taxes Ask the utilities to stop charging Then maybe landlords could It goes further|0 We did well compared to the horror show in progress in EU and NA We still did poorly compared to Taiwan or Macau|1 Thank you for reading all of that I cried and it was good to have that release I really needed to hear that I will be strong Thank you I wish you well in these uncertain times|1 Not a medical person but my guess is these measures wont ultimately stop it Slowing it could help spread out when people get sick and slow the impact on the health care system Just worried about family elders|1 People need to get a grip Dumb gits|0 I guess rich people are all fine and dandy when they pretend to care about progressiveness once a year at the Oscars|1 Yes Thanks for sharing Never thought of that|1 You would think that the Chinese would learn to stop eating bats after the SARS incident But no they keep eating shit and infecting the planet|0 The Gang Solve Coronavirus|1 Im not trying to speak this into existence but my 95 year old grandmother is in one of these Im afraid this will be it for her Im scared|0 Well as much of a fool as I think Tedros is he is only responsible for his own ineptness not trumpstrump is responsible for how he himself is choosing to handle this and the lies and misinformation he is choosing to spread|0 This is so sad I wish Ive never read it Poor dogs man |1 GOD pick who should be on Noahs Ark|1 Sure dude Im an armchair expret about Turkey The country which Im literally living in|1 Everyone in the malloffice buildinggym can be a confirmed case patient or already recovered seropositive health care worker or volunteer recovered patientRecovered COVID19 patients could be offered incentives to monitor these milder patients and a 2 day course in vitals monitoring Nurses there for the decision making This can be done if theres a will and recognition of gravity|1 Yep Happened in my store and posted about it like last week Lady had no morals dont care he was buying all our hand sanitizer when we serve mostly an elderly clientele|1 lol new york times does not deserve a cent from me|1 She was advised at the airport to self isolate when she returned home|0 There is to say that by the way he said that it was pretty clear that such numbers are extremely low almost non existent|1 I think the reverberations of this are likey to last almost a decade both socially and financially I guess it is a good thing from an economic standpoint we have had a great economy by in large for almost a decade I hope in these soon to be very very lean times that we will weather it better than if this had happened in 0910 when the economy was already in the crapper What I hope for more than anything is that we learn from this not just us the United States but us as a species With other real threats like climate change that we are failing miserably to address that we look at all of the wasted resources of all of these bloated world militaries and address the threats we all face as inhabitants of this small rock flying through this crazy universe Live long and prosper|0 Washing your hands is better anyways|1 If youre worried about going ask about a phone appointment My doctors are mainly doing phone appointments now to reduce the risk of spreading|0 not 100 effective hand washing is so much better but definitely useful if you have touched doors handled shopping carts or picked up anything in public that others may have touched or sneezedcoughed on just squirt some in your hand after leaving the area and make sure it contains 70 alcohol i use a product that contains benzalkonium chloride instead of alcohol its a foam hand sanitizeri wipe down my steering wheel phone and doors in my car with a chlorox wipe after coming into my car too bleach is the best for killing stuff i read a lot of info about cdc telling purell not to claim their products will eradicate virusesbacteria it should only be used when you cant wash your hands not that it doesnt help it just wont eradicate the virus as well as they claimedited for clarification|1 They can worry about that when it arrives Like everything else|0 Contagion might as well have been a documentary at this point|0 like going to a concert of 800 people|1 I find it cute that you would believe that|1 Its not that our government is so unprepared the system is designed so that no preparation is possible Their show must go on And now people will die|0 Best of luck to you and your son I have 2 under 3 and cant fathom being in your shoes Stay strong and I wish you the best|1 How does herd immunity work for coronaviruses My understanding is that there is little or no longterm immunity to coronaviruses and thus little or no herd immunity This isnt influenza|0 How about you just assume they all have it since one had already tested positive|1 I used to frequent Shanghai back in the day and seeing it this empty is honestly the most surreal shit|0 Lmao same Although the diarrhea would be a bit unusual|1 Things Italians are good at Pasta Aperitivo Not playing in the World Cup Containing Coronavirus|1 I think it was specifically in reference to packages that had come from China It was a little while ago that he said that when local infection threat wasnt looking like quite such an imminent threat|0 Its really quite sad seeing some of the posts on this sub I bet when these people are in the same situation as Italy they wont give a damn where the aid comes fromPolitical debatesconspiracies have a time and place and its not right now|0 Again please do your research The government is not advised by a couple of scientists There are 4 Chief Medical Officers in the UK for a start one in each constituent country There is 1 Chief Science AdviserThe UKs action plan is based on advice from 5 committees SAGE NERVTAG ACDP SPIM and JCVI These groups are comprised of numerous experts from across academia and industry|1 My friends have no fear Dougie is here Ffs what an idiot|0 It means that humans will adapt to the virus A vaccine will also improve peoples resistance We have drugs being used in China and South Korea and other places that have great promise in treating the virus if you contract it The next couple months will suck but things will get better through the summer After that hard to say but there are a lot of possible curesvaccines in the pipeline|1 Try using a pregnancy pillow instead Im a man and love my pregnancy pillow|1 They call it a hospital but from what I have seen its more akin to an asylum where you cannot open the door from inside one of the cells and the people inside get fed through a hatch Of course they are being isolated I understand that But I can only imagine the fear of being put in one of these rooms with the lack of personel information and resources not to mention flooding on top of it allPoor people|0 Not making light of the situation but I like how the South Korean CDC is KCDC It makes me think of the band ACDC and just gives me a chuckle|1 in the early stages of a pandemic when growth is very exponential slight changes to R0 can have dramatic effects on the number of people infected That said Australia isnt doing a whole lot of testing|0 It says it cut FUNDING for them which is not that|0 Yep Im savin that soup for the darker days lol Eating anything perishable first|1 Senators arnt an important group I mean I dont think they are but Im sure our government thinks differentlyand Im sure he does more traveling than the average person But I still get what your saying I still think its off|1 All tests are free thye just wont actually do any tests for the public|1 I tell you what else is spreading the virus idiots are I saw someone FB showing off that he had attended a gathering in a pub for someones birthday The pub was packed With this kind of mentality were in for a world of hurt|0 Sorry i dont understand are you suggesting that people should make masks at home of they cant find any in the shops Still I dont think people should stockpill masks|0 Its not that we dont care just that were way the fuck behind and not even prepared in the slightest Just like with everything technology military etc|0 The thing about the masks is that is really not that effective has a virus stopper Not for the healthy person Masks have pores the virus gets allocated in those pores people breed through those pores you get the picture Masks are good for the infected They cough and sneezes and masks avoid the droplets to spread Still they remain in the masks thats why they need to be changed otherwise its just a portable virus case Medical personnel uses masks to avoid contact with the droplets that may be expelled by a patient Still if it happens they must change mask immediately and of course wash themselves before placing a new mask So yeah go crazy buying masks and use them without knowledge that youll end up getting it anywayIn the end relax I know you are addicted to fear and end of days feelings these days but this wont be the event that will clear your debts fix your insecurities or clear your frustrations Its only the first pandemic on social media Lots of ignorance and histeria going around Youll see|0 Im just wondering if wed have similar problems here in the West if such a thing happened We have a decent number of hospitals in most urban and suburban areas but would we have similar scenes even in first world nations|0 For a pandemic like this we would probably quarantine ourselves For better or for worse the media is somewhat trusted so the 24 hour news cycle would simply rev things up and get it done|1 Crazy what a 3 day doubling period can do|0 The very slow very conservative Trumpcontrolled CDC said this Meaning that step is two weeks too late Dont get in groups larger than your family stay isolated together for 8 weeks reassess then if youre not in the hospital|0 China takes a lot of heat because of their political views and track record on human rights but I am always amazed at how quickly they can mobilize and produce items when they are needed Their government pretty much says dont worry about the money or economy well print more|1 So Bidens Super Tuesday win for Wall Street was short lived |1 I feel this is matter of hours right now The numbers are skewed due to lack of testing Which is great for the numbers but bad for people Incubation period average 55 days and R0 will is 25 31 i think So expect the number of sick people getting doubledtrippled over 6 days And depending on the response it either slowing down in matter of weeks or months China was able to slow it down in matter of 3 months But they all stay home and are not allowed to go out Since we western world are probably not able to do that I suspect it will take more time to slow it down|0 Snake flu|0 Good news boys there were only 60 million cases and 12k deaths in the US Just a measly 20 of the population Totally overblown|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 ive been wondering about north korea and what they are going to do once an outbreak is confirmed Its going to be total chaos|0 Hey hi Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts I cant agree with you more about your decision to stay away from panicking masses but i also feel so sorry and upset for those who just realised what they have been shrugging off or if they are elderly people who naturally have difficulties in going shopping or not having younger relatives to help them have even essentials It is not your fault nor it is any other workers in stores and retails and protecting yourself is the primary thing to do but oh boy i feel for those people who had their head in the sand and now they are completely lost and overwhelmed by what has come upon them what most of us has known for months now Sarscov2 please go away|0 Yes its not constructive I believe the government is acting mild to avoid panic And Im sure they dont have all they answers yet so speculation isnt going to help either|0 Almost no ones is saying 80|0 I am afraid that your optimism is unwarranted There will continue to be false negatives because you take a sample from a specific sub system in the body While the virus can be in another subsystem Still spreading Theres nothing you can do to fix that This particular strain attaches very easily to lungs heart kidneys testicles and god knows where else In the sample I think its taken from blood or Ive heard also nasal secretion|1 Im very impressed by the mods responsiveness considering how fast the sub has grown The mods dont get enough appreciation so Im happy to this post|1 Ontario runs its own tests and then has Winnipeg doublecheck Thats probably what they will say but well all find out soon enough|1 They did not say the disease can be transmitted from human to human until the 20th and my mom flew back to Wuhan for new year on the 19th and she didnt wear a face mask partly her fault Shes been sick past couple days but Ive been telling her to refrain from going to hospital unless shes 100 sure she has the coronavirus Had they released ANY information earlier I would have called her and told her to cancel her flight|0 Im glad you got that outlet Yep its a mindfuck alright|1 I think we ALL are screwed Youre not alone there|0 If 70 get it then the ICUs get overwhelmed so you get Italylevel death rate so more like 16M dead in the US327200000 70 7scenariosItaly style 16M dead WHO average style 34 78M dead Lucky Korean style 04 09M dead11500 max ICU beds see below so they get overwhelmed at 575000 active cases 115000 20 usage rate or 01 or the total pop|0 Im saying if they had disembarked everyone on day one not just those that tested positive|1 While theres some truth to what you say Western civilization surely didnt come to dominate world history for the better part of a millennium because of good international manners The clash of civilizations is of course a recurrent historical theme but one can hope big bad globalization will gradually spread similarities rather than differencesEven in the current state we are bemoaning lost jobs while thousands have died in China and many more surely will|0 Yep Roommates father just got back from Florida apparently no fucks given on his end Its a shame both him and his wife are 60 overweight not a ton but still dont exercise smoke and have high BP Like dude you just put your wife at risk how are you okay with that Even with the flu why would you do that|0 From what I understand it takes some time for the testing agentculturewhatever it is to show a positive result and a longer incubation may mean a more accurate result|1 You are a star Super informative stuff and very clearly written|1 Which I just dont get in this case Countries are shutting down Were seeing mass quarantine school systems closed borders closed industry throttling back due to lack of workersPoliticians would never allow that if it wasnt forced on them because they generally live and die on the economy It keeps people fed it keeps their military armed and ready and it keeps them more surely in powerThe fact that such measures are being taken is evidence of exactly how serious the people in charge have been convinced things are I agree with the dont panic messaging but thats not the same as do nothing|1 These were companies that already had vaccine candidates ready or should have them ready soon He was going to push to have the clinical trials done faster From what i gathered there is a 1 month lag time between Phase 1 and Phase 2 and Trump was going to push to get that shortened|1 I recommend that people buy the 6000 and 7000 series of 3M respirator masks even if they cant get the cartridgesThere are still filters available online expensive but availableThis is because nobody is doing any research they are assuming if you cant get FFP2FFP3 then you cant get a mask I was buying pandemic cartridges designed to outlast a pandemic wave weeks ago when everybody was buying a single FFP3 mask for the same price In a panic nobody researchesYou can still buy P2 and P3 filters try to get the encapsulated or part encapsulated filters if possible|0 Yes good post But I cant figure out what shutting down for 2 weeks does All itd take is one person after that 2 weeks to start up another increasing infection rate Then we shut down again|1 I got steroids abx andtamiflu when I had flu They tested me too|0 Definitely not sinking around the world not just in China|1 No this kind of trading takes supply off the market It is being bought and horded in the first place to create a low supply situation where it can be sold with high profit And the product is produced as fast possible at the moment anyway It is not like the producing companies will sell at 300 So this reselling will have no consequence for production or availability other than creating temporary shortages|0 Explain this to your local hospital particularly your immune suppressed health and get tested asap|1 Been off since Thursday Tell the school you all have a dry cough so your gonna be on the safe side problem solved When this is all done the number of people that will wish they took the same steps and are angry the govt never did it for them will be in the millions Forget any push back you get now and look after you and yoursEdit Just as an add on we actually sent my daughters teacher an email explaining we felt the government werent acting quickly enough and so are taking our daughter out as we can he replied that we should do what we feel is best So if you have a good relationship with the schoolteacher they will no doubt understand These people are worried and have families too But if they are dicks just tell them your all coughing and have a fever Theyll beg you to stay away|1 Cool We will no longer will be at Yes cases in the US|1 Those doctors are probably taking modafinil Basically if you take it for 72 hours straight your heart just stops|1 And not just Fox News Even CNN and MSNBC have been taking shots at it because their owners are terrified of the working class learning the true definition of the word Socialism|0 its good that mass media is catching up|1 Maybe like thishttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv8lSNNyHzmc4httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv8lSNNyHzmc4|1 Wuhan Jia You Zhongguo Jia You Let the world see what a united China can overcome|1 No that was a dumb move by someone in the State Department Which was criticized by both Trump and the CDC since it was explicitly against the procedure that they were supposed to follow|0 Thank you for your responses and best of luck to you keep us updated|1 Thanks for sharing|1 This was known since January the problem isnt one person getting the disease Its everyone getting the disease at once which floods the hospital and causes deaths to skyrocket|0 Why are you even thinking about protests people are dying We can save lives by staying at home people who refuse to stay at home unless they need to go out are putting the fragile people in their familyworkplace at risk|0 Hey Take a look at other countries Quarantine does work It took a while for Wuhan but they made it Stay safe|1 Theyll die or their loved ones will die and you can tell them how stupid they are|0 I read this sub religiously and its all bad news Good god I needed that silly statement|1 Hey I used to live right over there on 37th by the Safeway well in the early 00s as a late teen lol|1 Most definitely I actually thought the Democrats were a bunch of whiny Trump haters that just wanted to start mess and bash him all the time but now I see that they actually care about us as the American people more|1 Yes and the WHO ranks Italy as having the 2nd best healthcare system in the world while US is 37th just behind Costa RicaWe are fucked six ways from Sunday|1 18min drive from mine Aint bad|1 Like holy shit here in DC we are basically shut down everything in a week NYC is on the edge of a real catastrophe The ignorance level is through the roof|0 Wow what a great counter argument|1 This is what scares the shit out of me No one in my area is concerned about this and is even brushing it off when I bring it up because it isnt killing many people unless you unfortunately have other conditions but the hospitalization rate is pretty damn high even at younger ages and once those beds fill up and the doctors are working around the clock thats a terrifying prospectAdd in India cutting off supply lines for certain antibiotics and other medicines and this gets pretty scary to think about|0 Just so everyone is aware ARDS acute respiratory distress syndrome and its management is not unique to this virus Unfortunately there are individuals with viral or bacterial pneumonia that end up with this everyday|0 Just follow Taiwan on this one set a fine and adjust it according to your income when they caught you violate the quarantineOur government doesnt even need to have a brain to come up with plans just copy and paste from the rest of the world the one that works and they are still thinking not acting Taiwanese man who evaded coronavirus quarantine fined maximum NT1 million US33350 httpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3884486httpswwwtaiwannewscomtwennews3884486|0 Thats how you handle shit Even suing the cult church that made the mess worse|0 Stay healthy up there Michigan bros|1 Actually Im pissed about the interior BC case Absolutely vague She worked on Monday and self isolated Tuesday but there is no cause for concern according to the media|0 Remember the CDC is completely different from what it was when it appropriately responded to swine flu and avian flu This agency has more or less been gagged by the current admin via incompetent appointments and orders of misinforming the populace|0 The Catholic church Either their God will protect them or he will take them to heaven Surely this is a winwin if they true believers|1 How amazing it is that the US is actually ahead of Italys pace|1 Oh wow I just checked it out Geeze why cant they make government websites look better like that Two years ago it took me forever to find some basic info on the local government website|1 My understanding from a source I read on here earlier was that the lung symptoms or lower respiratory symptoms come ifwhen the disease progresses So people who do not have a fever are more likely to have the upper respiratory symptoms including a cough congestion basic bad cold symptoms So the lung pain and issues breathing probably would appear along with a fever But I dont recall the basis for that assertion so take with a grain of salt|0 Still better than nothing|1 True Hero|1 Please see this study It will answer your quesitonhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022220025791v1httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020022220025791v1|1 I do not think united states gov federal or local govs are equipped to handle it|0 Now actually read it There have been hundreds tested and many positives How do you think they diagnosed em|1 Well now that his wife has it hes taking it seriously|1 This is a tricky one I totally understand your anxiety and the need to keep your dad safe If you can work from home and limit outside interactions that will help a lot If you visit your dad is it possible for both of you to wear masks Keeping a distance ie not hugging is also a good idea Or maybe you could drop off more supplies less frequently to limit exposure|1 This is insanity Could her Dr not test her because she did not meet the CDC requirements which is unbelievable because their series of major mistakes is what caused so much of this Is she able to get tested at a state or public health lab|0 Its great to read some good news The previous tests were only about 70 reliable so every patient hat to be tested twice to be cleared This is an important step in the right direction making testing more reliable and more sustainableThank you scientists for having everyones back |1 It is shameful that the Jazz get such preferential treatment and all other citizens are getting ignored They should have their name changed to the the tested or throw the fans under the bus|0 Took 7 days for us to get results London but then a friend who lives up North only took 3 days So depends on where in the country you are and which lab it gets sent to|1 Youre probably wrong too Fact is we dont know enough to draw any conclusions and we may not know for a long time|0 You have video of the president stating hes going to declare a national emergency at 3pm|0 Someone is going to suffer one way or another the idea is to minimize loss Its sad that some kids depend on school for other stuff besides education but theres many many more that could suffer if the schools do not close|0 Hello first of all thanks for doing the AMA Apologies for the extremely specific question but I am currently travelling around South America at the moment and had been planning on returning to the UK in June I am an asthma sufferer 27M and starting to become slightly concerned about both the idea of potentially becoming infected whilst abroad since I perceive myself more likely to both catch the disease and require hospitalization This is balanced with fears that if I return home that I may be more likely to contract it in a place where healthcare is more stretched and I may be best placed staying in SA My current plan is to monitor the situation over the next couple of weeks and make a decision then but I really have no idea what the right thing to do is Would you have any advice Im unaware of current risks to asthma sufferers in younger peopleI appreciate this may be impossible to answer thanks again for doing this|0 Not gonna give you suggestions just going to mull over if well end up getting a baby boom in about 10 months time|1 So for each 1 million flu diagnoses theyre missing 20000 COVID19 diagnoses|0 My allergies are horrible this year my nose runs constantly no matter what I do Yesterday the woman behind me in line at the grocery store moved back like 6 feet when she saw me wipe my nose with a tissue She did the right thing But I really hope I didnt panic her|1 I remember when 1 case in Europe was alarming Now it is 1000s a day Not good|0 Amazing Im glad Im not the only who thinks this but someone on the ground to confirm this I might actually get a ticket Probably get isolated upon arrival haha|1 What do you make of this reference to furin potentially priming the S protein for cell entry The present study indicates that SARSCoV2 spread also depends on TMPRSS2 activity although we note that SARSCoV2 infection of Calu3 cells was inhibited but not abrogated by camostat mesylate likely reflecting residual S protein priming by CatBL One can speculate that furinmediated precleavage at the S1S2 site in infected cells might promote subsequent TMPRSS2dependent entry into target cells as reported for MERSCoV|0 Cruises are actually an amazing way to travel in places like Asia Think about it you essentially turned the travel part of traveling into a fun experience Instead of going from airport to hotel in several countries you can just hang out on a cruise ship and get off in various countriescitiesIf you had to travel to Hong Kong Japan Taiwan Philippines etc all in one trip youre looking at tons of air travel moving luggages checking in and out of hotels going through security etc With a cruise ship you just leave your stuff in your room and party the whole time with all the food you could ask for|1 Sheesh I needed to read this My nose started running on Fri and this morning Im now sneezing coughing and congested I cant say Im not a little bit nervous because I am But I live alone I dont go out or frankly anywhere so Im not expecting it to be the bad one|0 Yeah I am graduating college this semester Sad I wont get to walk|0 Hand swabbing is done for explosive residue not Coronahttpswwwthoughtcocomchemicalsfalsepositivetsaswabtest606808|1 Blame the GovernmentMost people in the UK are not actively monitoring coronavirus on special coronavirus subreddits Theyre looking at TV listening to the radio and seeing what newspapers are posting and the consistent message coming through is theres no need to worry its not a big deal were still in the containment phasePeople trust these official messages so they dont see any reason to change their approach Part of the reason for that is if everyone stopped shopping the shop assistants the waiters the butchers and bakers would all be looking at having their hours slashed or getting laid offI must admit I am very frustrated at the constant just work from home message which utterly fails to realise many most working people do not have that option available to them|0 Palm face They just arent going to test for community spread which give a false sense of security Lockdown is inevitable at this rate|1 Off topic but its also why folks conflate building extreme wealth with working or earning money They just cant stop thinking about money in linear terms|1 Great FINALLY Last week this was a conspiracy theory people were questioning if he was even in Wuhan Hopefully it picks up and CCP start feeling some heat for once|1 This is life on mother earth for anything outside of our societal bubble We can always keep the two worlds contained as much as people seem to want to|1 To be fair i get itI almost went to a bar last night because its easy to forget the situation we are in Where i am at stores are all open bars are open work is going as normal Even the grocery stores are about as busy as normal I spent the weekend watching movies at home with my roommates and we sort of forgot shits about to hit the fan here|1 Yeah can someone explain this in laymans terms|1 I got you tagged as proPiS troll from rpolandI am completely not surprised you failed to understand umyhangdownsaysheys point|1 Food for a month if you can afford it Stuff that wont go off a good variety healthy but include some treats Cleaning suppliesLoo paperBasic medicinesPet stuff food litter if you need itYou may struggle to get all of these consider buying online from reputable places that are limiting purchases per customer Clean everything that enters your house whether from the shops or a package Take off your shoes and clothes when you get in and take a shower Its scary but statistically you will probably make it through fine Prepping is wise youre still not too late Take a written list and dont panic Best of luck 3|1 Well youd think the CEOs could handle something as critical as this on their own Thats why they get the big money right|0 At any rate I would not call trouble breathening Doing well unless the symptoms subsided later and it got lost in translation|1 Super glad you have the flu I bet nobodys ever said that to you before|1 And DONT TOUCH YOUR FACE even though me mentioning it just then is making your face extra itchy for some reason|0 It feel like they are doing absolutely nothing here in the US A few briefings making claims that dont come to pass Not to mention our inability to test at scale is going to reap potentially disastrous consequences|0 Ive been doing this before it was cool haha|1 Yeah I suppose being too scared is probably better then totally apathetic I just worry about misinformation in situations like this The irony is people are freaking out here where its primarily young folks who will be fine and Trump is going on FOX News saying its not as bad as the flu to the primarily elderly audience who are far more at risk|0 agree with you|1 People are upset at others for buying toilet paper I say if you need it you need it just be sensible about it Im thankful I did all of my prepping two weeks ago The last thing I bought was food this week and masks yesterday so Im all done|1 They will realise soon enough Covid19 does not give a fuck about ppls believes or feelings|1 China 14886Hubei 14840Total China outside Hubei 46 I agree this probably isnt real but its whats out there|1 Nah theyre already saying its fake news and blown out of proportionYou cant reason with Trump cultists|0 Genuinely curious Im an Asian why is wearing masks a shame in the West|0 Theyre worried more about the economy than public health They dont want to cause a panic but theyre doing a fine job regardless|0 This is presupposing we have a lot of mild covid19 cases its often talked about but we still have no proof of that And the chinese data dont make it easier because they include even pneumonia that dont lead to hospitalisation as mild|0 President is a monumental fake the Dotard is incapable of handling a crisis of this magnitude there I fixed it for you |0 Yep that is what I am reading Its like the gov doesnt want to know Deniability I guess Take care of you|1 Couldnt agree more I China study found from a passenger in fact it in the back of a bus that he infected people 15 feet in front of him just by sitting in his seat and then the people got off the bus and 30 minutes later with the air still circulating on the bus a woman sat down at the front of the bus and got it The original passenger entered from the back of the bus|0 There was an Australian woman who flew from Cambodia to Malaysia before being stopped She had the virus|0 It is hard to believe its walking pneumonia|0 The mountains in Austria are absolute fire|0 Basically we are all screwedThe time taken for us to be screwed would be2 weeks if you know a guy who went to Hubei4 weeks if you know a guy who knows a guy who went to Hubei6 weeks if you know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who went to Hubei etc|0 You know the safety videos on airplanes that always tell you to put the oxygen mask on for yourself before assisting others I think it applies here why should any healthcare worker be obliged to work in an unsafe environment Theyll just become patients themselves and exacerbate the problem The real issue here is institutions have to provide them with the right PPE to do their jobs safely|1 100 why not Keeps you busy and gives you a skill whether or not you use it Try and learn basic car mechanics too I didnt know shit spent last year just trying things fixing small stuff now Im good for anything you can do with basic tools which is pretty cool Diagnosedfixed a radiator last year also got to tell a mechanic what was wrong with a friends car no oil for 2 years he disagreed and was wrong That felt good for only a years worth of studying Either way definitely find something that can earn you spare foodstuff from others if need be or something that allows you to produce tradeable goods Not saying things are getting that bad because a lot of people disagree but I think its cool|1 Honestly that sometimes gives me reassurance for my gma and mom that just wont stop smokingForgive my naive why did braking hip lead to her death|1 You mean the cellular technology WTF|0 Yesthe Y on pearl downtown has a daycare on the second floor separate from the drop in center for members I asked about what precautions they were taking Wednesday mentioned my concerns about the comingling then pulled my kid out of daycare for now based on their response As of Friday they still had no plan to change I truly cant understand the logic there Daycare is a Petri dish no matter how well they clean Nothing is going to keep 3 year olds from touching everything after rubbing eyes fingers up nose hands in mouth There are a ton of old people that work out there that are needlessly being put at risk Daycare can and should be kept separate from members for now I urged them to take over a studio so they can have a space for large motor skills when its bad outside send yoga class to the gym for now try to keep everyone safer My employers response has been very proactive and respectable maybe its setting my expectations too high for others At this point all employees are asked to work from home if at all possible and flextime is understoodexpected due to schools being out or needing to care for sick family If some people choose to go into the office for whatever reason theyre asked to maintain a distance of at least 6 feet from any coworkers All business travel is banned even domestically and has been for over a week now Theres a behavioral health hotline for anyone feeling anxious needing to talk to someone Theyre going to come out of this with some very committed employees showing they care when it really matters Im not loving the Y so much |1 Hope Ezra is hearing this loud and clear|1 It worked out just as well as the Hillary has a 97 chance of winning according to our polls|1 Lmao most landlords are those corporations you fool They already own all the homes they have since 08|1 This kind of is essential travel though I thinkAside from the fact that if we miss this there may not be another way to see each other for a whole year and thats optimistically assuming that this wont be a problem next year my partner has mobility issues and the week Im coming down is a week when they will have nobody else to care for them|1 only thing that really zaps it really or some really strong alcohol rubs|1 If your Asian say that your from WuhanIf your not Asian say that you just got out of princess diamond|1 I think they would be paid a decent amount but may not be as much as one would expect The honor is paramount though|1 thx ill check it outx200Bedit checked it out but I dont trust the source I just watched Trumps statements He is often taken out of context such as calling the virus a hoax He did not He called how the democrats politicized it and blamed it on him as a hoax|0 Heard that Not the flu|1 Hah thanks Im actually privy to Minecraft but I dont understand the memesong theyre referring to|1 It looks like its been done Shortly after we had this convo funny enough|1 I giggled reading your post until I got toYou just burn and cry on the toiletAnd then I lost it Lmaothe imagery |0 Only to trump and his dumb ass defenders|0 Also there was alot of uncontrolled spread in hospitals before it was noticed|0 Ive seen reports that 20 of the people that get the virus will need hospital care Your figures show that 20 of the entire US population will need hospital care Have you actually seen reports of this because this is the first time Ive seen a figure that high I will say that I havent watched the video yet I was just wondering if there are any articles out there yet with a figure this high|1 My dad got a terrible cold right around new years It took him over a month to get over it He said he thought he was starting to get better and then took a nose dive for the worse He complained of tightness in his chest and had a cough the entire time It got to where kept sore muscles from all the coughing for a while|0 Your last sentence is a wise description for what its like to live with anxiety I may have to borrow that|1 The entire top part of chopstick symbol means Bamboo a popular material for chopstick in ancient China which is also wood I guess |1 Who told you that Someone who was in North Korea If the answer is no then its probably bullshit|0 Im a conservative I dont care one way or another what anyone thinks Just stating exactly what i saw I didnt say all Trump supporters feel this way just that 90 of the comments are saying its a plot by democrats or the virus isnt real|1 The bank cant take your house because you owe more than its worth It is in the banks interest to keep you paying on the mortgage|1 Thats the point though and why people are angry the government arent doing anything to reduce the loss of life Thats the point No one thinks the government can prevent ALL deaths from this they just know that they can prevent enormous amounts of deaths and they are choosing not to do that for completely bullshit reasons|0 What incentive is there to claim old people are more vulnerable than young|1 They held a parade to prompt the war effort I believe and I crease patriotism Thousands of people attended about a week or so later the city was lockdowned and around 12000 people died in Philadelphia alone|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 This is legit terrifying I live right next to Montyponty|0 Greatest hands in history|1 Yes everyone will be getting this virus I imagine the government only needs to slow the spread so there is less peak demand on the healthcare system When a community starts to show infection a quarantine will go up to slow the spread Expect a month long quarantine event sometime after they find it in your area|1 Yes The entire world is connected now The only places that are truly far away are those that are inaccessible by mass travel Antarctica Greenland the Canadian Arctic Southern Islands parts of Siberia etc And these places have one thing in common very low population|1 they would not be effective in outbreak quarantine due to requirement of negative pressure rooms|0 DM to secret sub please|1 Karma will be a bitch|0 Thats slang from like 30 years ago when I was a kid Also acceptable Funna Fint to|1 Lmao yes I will be very reassured hearing that from a president while he is on his way to play golf If President want to reassure us he can start by getting cdc to send test kits to every lab hospital etc in the country|1 Remember this guy when its time to present the 2020 Darwin awards|1 I dont think theres much they can do but keep reminding the public to wash their hands and stay home if they feel under the weather The symptoms for carriers range from none to feeling slightly under the weather to obviously more serious If they tried to test everyone that presented with fever and a cough in affected areas it would likely be tens of thousands of people Im in NYC and felt like damn near everyone on the train had a sniffle and cough|0 Also a lot of the Chinese in the diaspora tend to be from HK and Guangdong Wuhan wasnt a major exporter of people like other regions of China Like the whole of Hubei 50 million people only had 3 digit counts of Canadians whereas Hong Kong is minimum 6 figure number|1 Nah America is only immune to offering affordable healthcare to people who will definitely need it imminently|1 I love how every nations pride leads them to look down their nose at their neighbors and proudly proclaim how they are better because of X And yet no nation is humble to adopt the good ideas of their neighbors|1 Why arent they using the damn tests|0 i used to think it was an age thing then i met a young right winger and realized this is human conditionsome people are just more comfortable in a black and white world where might is right Gray areas overwhelm them|1 No its not Only 3244 confirmed cases in the US the US has a population around 360 million Also only 62 deaths thus far Do math Toughen the fuck up Dont be such a pussy|0 Which happened a lot in china We may face similar shortages here|0 The Citigroup chief executive told the Financial Times that the party would end at some point but there was so much liquidity it would not be disrupted by the turmoil in the US subprime mortgage marketHe denied that Citigroup one of the biggest providers of finance to private equity deals was pulling backWhen the music stops in terms of liquidity things will be complicated But as long as the music is playing youve got to get up and dance Were still dancing he said in an interview with the FT in Japan Chuck Prince July 10th 2007|0 Im not defending his actions so far Im explaining to you that it was the CDCs decision to develop its own test kits which has resulted in clusters exploding across the United States Trump himself has largely followed the same infuriating line of other western leadersThe presidents job is not to micromanage everything in government The CDC is set up for this exact scenario and thankfully are the ones who are taking the initiative not politicians with no experience in disease control Unfortunately they made a very poor but well intentioned decision with extreme consequences|1 Does anyone know if these dust masks are at all effectivehttpswwwhoneywellstorecomstoreproductshoneywelldustmasksrws54000htmhttpswwwhoneywellstorecomstoreproductshoneywelldustmasksrws54000htmThese are the only ones accessible to me right now Thanks|1 I wonder how poor American health compares with Chinese people breathing toxic air for their entire lives|0 theres a lot of shit we should be doing|0 Wow I thought political posts were not allowed in this sub reddit|1 Gotta learn how to handle a new virus if we plan on sending people to Mars Who knows what the hell lives in the dirt there that isnt nice to humans|0 This is such a middle class thing to say For millions of poor people in the US there is dystopia every day a pandemic is just another thing to add to the pile eating them down Theyre not going to stop going to work|0 Same I live in Saint Petersburg Russia and clinics are I would say 80 full at any time We have strangely warm winter this year 3540 F And usually this kind of temperature is very good for any virus to spread It would be much easier to stay healthy at much colder days Plus Im sure we almost dont have any equipment for those who will be confirmed for coronavirus So it will be a battle of an armless man vs this mothercking virus|1 66 was the lower estimate too|0 I dont know I think it depends on how much theyre paid and how theyre treated by their employer if they should feel committed to risking themselves If I were a lowpaid poorly treated nurse or nurse aid or whatever in a shady nursing home why should it be my problem No one cared about the lowlevel workers problems but now people want lowtoaverage paid nurses and minimumwage food workers to care about everyone else more than themselves This is hypocritical|0 a little off topic question I got this Kikar rechargeable wand which is UVC out of fun I wanted to see if it will show stains urinespit but it doesnt is that normal since the wavelenght is too low or the power is too low Or did I get scammed and all the germ killing lights should show stains as well|0 Thank you for understanding and having a conversation No I wont equate a government with its people Yes the response compared to SARS was much better but its alarming to see how so many countries were still blinded and are so illprepared to handle an event like this or to even put containment measures in place before its too late which for most it is Whats the point of having agencies like the TSA or everyone getting spied on by their governments if they can neither handle something like this or track and analyze the spread Isnt that what Americans freely gave up after the Patriot Act Freedoms for protection Well that was a fucked up lie and I dont understand why time and again we willingly trust these people with our lives only to see no one be held accountable for their negligence|1 True wasent for comparison they asked for interesting things to read|1 Its been going since early december or before If it was going to spread that wide it would have happened already It is spreading massively but it will not reach those numbers This is some of the most doomer shit i have read on chinaflu|0 Based on these numbers i think the mortality rate is 1400 025 There must be around 300k infected on Hubei Nothing special about China or outside China|0 Nope and I live here US is just better at lying so it gives us a better sense of freedom|1 Ti l ngi Vit Nam Dti kh gn ti ngh tnh hnh l ncc bin php mnh m s c tc dng nu thc hin sm40000vn 1 lng qu l tt so snh th cc cng ty nc ngoi Vit Namv d LG nu ba n cho cng nhn vi chi ph khong 20000 coment ting vit cho cc bn dch chi|1 Obviously there is more to it than just that file but that in conjunction with the sitemap are what actually restrict most crawlers to get the pages of the site|0 Oh God that was horrific|0 this Agree|1 The ridiculous part is the average nursing home in the US costs something like 7k a month even with a roommate and you have to use all of your assets in your name first to pay for it before the government will pay for any portion So most olds go to net worth zero living in a shithole with a random roommate where all they do is wait to die from a disease like sepsis pneumonia etc|0 I see what the issue is People are confusing hospital beds with ICU hospital beds Its the ICU hospital beds and ventilators that are needed not so much regular hospital beds|0 Ive also made my home a coronavirus free zone and two family members are staying with me for the duration One doesnt work and the two of us that do are able to do everything remotely They keep wanting to go outside for dumb reasons like I need my Starbucks and Im like we have two months worth of coffee here make a pot|1 How tf is it ethical that THIS announcement is behind a paywall|1 I never asked you for the label with views like those who needs to put a label on them You should tell me if its libertarian though so I can add another tally on that mental list|1 I DONT think people will be able to fight the government if it came down to it but I think it at least slows it down and gives them a little bit less confidence|1 Not until people start dropping dead in the streets|0 Yeah hes a fuckface for that shit and deserves to be charged criminally or fined heavily at the least|0 Really gotta be careful not to immediately expect small homogeneous Asian nation levels of organization from those two massive and diverse countriesLogistically those two nations have significant challenges that Korea doesnt Culturally both countries are quite diverse Linguistically those nations are diverseNot to say we shouldnt expect our governments to respond well to any potential epidemics Im just saying weve gotta manage expectations Its like the US and Canada are consumer model SUVs and were comparing them 0100 mph to a Ferrari small homogenous nationsWell get to 100 mph but not as fast as these Ferraris|1 We were bailed out in 2009 because it popped up late in the season and we had a vaccine to roll out when fall rolled back aroundWhats dangerous about Covid19 is even if its dampened during the summer theres no guarantee well have a large scale vaccine deployable come fall|0 You really think this will kill 6080m people You should really take a break of this subreddit or the internet lol|0 I read erections Yes I am immature|1 Amen Its purely ignorance stupidity and selfishness at this point Wake up America|0 Not good enough They need to close do the right thing people|0 Hi live in Beijing The thing is two weeks ago there was a rumor going around about pneumonia but no one really panicked Fast forward and now we know its a new virus and it hit right when the largest annual human migration event happens So a lot of spreading the virus occurred and now that a lot of the infected are starting to show symptoms the numbers are going up exponentially Heres the thing though Everyone in China is aware Geared up with face masks and hand sanitizer My wife is literally spritzing our jackets with alcohol every time we come in I think people are doing everything to prevent getting sickWill Shanghai be fine by the time you come I would say its probable things clear up by then Theres always the extremely rare chance this all goes haywire and we all die but I think itll all be fine in about a month|0 Cool way to get a local cluster started|1 Well this is CNN who has consistently blown things way out of proportions and negative Nancy is all about politics Take them both as chicken littles at the very least Sure they may be telling the truth this time but look at their past|1 Exactly unless youre from Detroit youd have no idea about the situation|0 Do you mean the 26 page paper I linked to or the synopsis on the front page Check the YT vid I linked to if you want a summary of that 26 page paper|1 it really depends upon the countrys population health and the age distributionive been told that italy has a larger than normal population above 65 no idea if thats true or not just what ive been told|1 In Denmark public institutions have been shut down schools and other non vital organs Bars are closed some restaurants so China South Korea isnt the only countries thats on stage 1 2 Just read Belgium also is beginning to shut things down as well as Norway|1 Its just an off the cuff idea There are easy ways to exploit it The US govt FED is already propping up the stock market so its not dissimilar to repo loans 0025 interest rates and QE So we are already losing more and more moneyYouTube is definitely profitable thats why GOOGL bought them|1 Waiting with popcorn to see redditors response when these experts say theres no benefit to wearing surgical masks for the general public if youre not ill|1 Do you have a source for the hospital director suicide I cant find a thing about that|0 THIS This is why it makes me really angry looking at some acquaintances sharing info about how this is less deadly than a flu But I cannot seem to get them to engage and take this seriously|0 I guess it needs internet Sadly most of the time my computer is offline |0 Most of them just arent aware would be my guess Ive spent two days on this sub and am sounding like a nut to my friends Unless someone takes the time to find out whats going on theyll be just oblivious No one in their right mind would choose going to these events if they knew the dangers|1 All those savings on medicare and social security|1 Id definitely look into rescheduling airlines are being a little more flexible with tickets at the moment and theyre far more likely to reschedule you if it means you wont cancel on them|1 You could pretend to be sick and sit out of the dinner I dont know how old you are or what you can get away with as far as not listening to your parents but Id go for the most tactful way to get what you want without doing damage to your relationship From the sound of it your family is going to get it eventually so it might be worth it to play the long game sit through dinner but try to get her to prep a little over the next few daysIDK but I wish you luck|1 But reddit told me it was literally the black death 20|0 I recall reading that some super spreader named Mattias in Italy also ran a marathon|1 If someone can make it for 1 and they are selling it for 11000 yah greedy fuckers|0 The terror of knowing were 1 bad boss away from homelessness keeps us in line But its also really tiring|0 Perhaps they could bankrupt him nbspFinancially I mean hes already morally bankrupt|0 As read straight off YYZ Pearson Airport Toronto The Public Health Agency of Canada has assessed the public health risk associated with COVID19 as low for Canada at this time We continue to work in collaboration with PHAC to ensure that all proper measures are taken for all international arriving passengers Since Trudeau has decided against travel bans because they would have huge impacts on our economy and would only delay the inevitable travel continues as planned As posted on Toronto International airport YYZ in 2019 international airport traffic was 9222479 in Q1 and Q2 How could anything possibly slip through the cracks with the incredible containment measures at customs Have you travelled to China in the last 14 days|1 The envy of the developing world means it isnt compariable to developed countries such as SK China Italy and the US I dont doubt it is better than many developing nations|1 Proactive Americans dont know the meaning of the word|1 3 is a pretty low base that percentage is pure clickbait|1 I would say luck reporting is fair media here wont spare even a slight chance to point out gun at governmentPeople do put lots of doubt again India a loteven myself but given the track record of containing contagious diseases I would say either India has gotten luck too many times or checks are in place which people fails to observe|0 Dude I keep seeing people say this you cant just throw an average death and the extrapolate what the average death rate for an area The death rate will differ on population size affluence of area age of area etc|0 Why isnt the media drilling this into peoples heads Im from the UK and not one BBC SKY ITV etc news channel has brought this up This is my biggest concern in this pandemic and the media are trying too hard to calm people down instead of being honest about how tough its going to be if WHEN it gets to that point|1 Ive got so many emails texts from JoAnns for deals Bitch theres a pandemic|0 The whole north east seems to be getting fucking wacked not good news for a New Yorker|0 Ibuprofen Mmm I certainly would not take anything that will suppress symptoms which are the body fighting the infection I would not want to do anything to stand in the way of that I would encourage the fever and manage it knowing that fever is what destroys the virus Ibuprofen blunts fevernot smart It will only give the virus a deeper hold|1 I agree with you|1 I didnt know American politicians based their culture on Chinese cultureWhy Politicians Dont Just Say Yes I Fcked UphttpswwwthedailybeastcomwhypoliticiansdontjustsayyesifckedupWhy politicians wont admit their mistakeshttpswwwwashingtonpostcomnewsthefixwp20141014whypoliticianswontadmittheirmistakes|0 Good thing we had two months to prepare for this right|1 I can legit live stream tomorrow if youre keen to watch lol|1 Ive been reminding myself that efforts to contain the infection are ramping up in my dads region and that if they can stop the exponential growth most people wont contract the virus at all I wish I could travel to visit my dad without putting him at riskIf you live with your mom make sure to keep yourself healthy as thats the best thing you can control Stay up to date with your local health authority and the WHO and make sure your mom clearly understands the precautions she needs We can make it though this|1 The British government has chosen death through inactionBrace yourselves|0 The money you pay goes to your host and not Airbnb If you dont document a travel issue properly they wont have the grounds to take the money from your host and since they make almost no money on reservations they cant really refund out of pocket CSRs arent able to transcend policy in most cases We arent able to take losses above a certain amount and it has to be considered a good investment or we could get in serious shit Its honestly bullshit|0 Thats sick|0 Hi Guys we have written a blog to help you take preventive measures from Corona Virus httpstwittercomalltimegenericstatus1233793589987115008s20|1 MERS came from bats that infected camels It was camels that passed it to humans The first two letters of MERS literally stand for middle eastern Its not south asian|0 Blame the CCP they knew about this for weeks and tried to bury itThen it got out of control and now they are blaming it on the Americans|0 Its world bank pushing his bias for personal gain with examples of poorer countries benefiting from richer countries loss when trade is opened|1 I hope theyre doing so near me My government has announced new steps in combating the spread so I hope this extends to schoolscolleges soon|1 Im on the Ontario New York border and I support you closing your schools|1 CDC refused tests from WHO ages ago That wanted to make their own|0 Right but those people update around the clocks as soon as they get the news via APIdata scraping automatic or user submission manual whereas the new government site only promises to update their composed data twice daily Thats the differenceIts not about uncovering any secret its about delivering the consolidated data sooner through a single channel|1 Its too bad they didnt list the actual machines in the article|0 Computer systems werent programmed to cope with the rollover to year 2000 and many had serious problems Many months of fixes prior to Y2K prevented things like planes falling out of the sky at midnight possible exaggeration there but it was one of the fears|0 If yall though Italy was bad I think the US is gonna be so much worse No quarantine no halting rentmortgages no shutting down social event The federal government is about as well prepared for this as it is to help ordinary citizens Were fucked|0 I love the fucking Italians|1 Its not the new normal holy fuck|0 Thats not a bad idea thanks|1 please do this for Germany as wellPlease make something less hovery for mobile|1 Theyre trying to stay out of heaven so damn hard|0 thank you for your kind words friend they really are Im just hoping that they dont go through with the plan even though its already late to go back they can still make the situation better|1 Take care and Stay Safe I hope everything will get better for you family and for Italy|1 Its going to be free as well Theyve waived the cost sharing on itEdit adding source httpswwwuhccomhealthandwellnesshealthtopicscovid19|1 As a 26 year old youre greatly overreacting The coronavirus will most likely be like a moderate flu for you odds are it wont even be that bad If you live with an elderly parent or something thats more cause for concern than anything else|0 The kids arent responsible for their socioeconomic status|0 My mother has been going on about how its a conspiracy and its manmade Its exhausting|0 Does anybody have the link to the film he shared|1 Italy is literally about to pass a lockdown on multiple affected provinces today They had 20 cases almost exactly 2 weeks ago Normal life can change that quick with this thing People better be getting prepared|1 Not many heroes there Big surpriseThey also receive some of the best health care in the world|1 Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Essential|1 I live in Atlanta and my NextDoor has been so great about offering a hand to the elderly and childcare Its so nice to see people come together at a time like this|1 Live in Salem OR Gf and I just cancelled tickets to a comedy show in Portland out of concern for Covid19 but were concerned we may be over reacting|1 Yes in the more populated areas The midwest rural areas which is massive Eh not so much Go go country living|1 Thank you for taking the time to write this out and explain|1 If you want to have infected employees working then go right ahead And prepare for lawsuitsI dont I would tell them to contact me when theyre better and see whether their job is still available You cant come in if youre sick and if we didnt negotiate time off thats on youNow if The Govmnt does think thats just unfair to the worker then The Govmnt can use some of those tax dollars I keep giving them to reimburse the worker|0 Oh fuck yeah Id forgotten that I didnt want people to die Cheers for reminding me matey|0 No OP just used it Its still used|0 Everyone should tweet or email and ask canada to add the US to the list with iran and italy if anything the us is worse than italy because its not keeping track of anything going on|0 No because those arent counted in the official death toll either|0 We have the best healthcare money can buy|1 Hope its UVC|1 People justifying why their breaking of the rules was ok is the reason IMO this crisis will drag on for much longer than people thinkAgreed The urgency to hunker down and truly isolate will not be taken to heart by many until community spread is in their neighborhoods Then you will see a tonne of the old Pray for us we are all sick and have no idea where we got it FB posts|0 The virus is spreading in the US right now guaranteed and we dont have the metrics or interest apparently to find them sooner rather than later|1 If you think there isnt community spread in Florida today you need to give your head a shake It is out asymptomatic and mild cases are spreading fast Look at the death stay in the US right now the US is where Italy was two weeks ago 20 cases and nothing to see here Give it a little bit more time|0 These are 8 confirmed cases mostly elder people Now imagine yourself maybe on your 20s30s without moving for 10 days staying in a tiny room without being able to do much your body will be starting to hurt because of the inactivity These people have been 10 days without moving waiting for results 10 days for a elder person without moving is a LOT now put a unknown virus on top of that this is really sad|0 Ditto man Been tracking and preparing in Jan when all my friends and family called me a prepper and alarmistIm sort of hoping that good prevails America will eat the rich and maybe on the back side well get back to a life worth living|1 I should add that Im doubtful about a number of other aspects of your post I dont think the close contact data means what you think it means I dont think that you have access to higher quality private information that you can base figures on the most optimistic aspect of this entire thing has been the speed and quality of information sharing in the scientific community and the very best data we have on disease progression and epidemiology is published I dont think describing the confirmed case data as lagging by 12 days is helpful or accurate And so on and so forth Too much to go into here I would normally not respond to this sort of thing on Reddit but much damage has been done in the last few days because people have spread wild surmises and flimsy research that hasnt passed through peer review Much of what you have in this post is accurate and the caution against conspiratorial thinking is well put|1 I dont wish anybody any illness but sadly Im sure if a celebrity gets the disease well have a cure or at least treatment in a month Thats the effect of celebrities It happened with AIDS|0 Why does your local Chinese restaurant have you number|1 Just go around touching every microphone as well as peoples faceshttpsmobiletwittercomDavefox2status1237906382193438720refsrctwsrc5Etfw7Ctwcamp5Etweetembedrefurlhttps3A2F2Fd1007574777521497352ampprojectnet2F20030318421002Fframehtml Theyll prioritise you|1 This line of thinking is bullshit and literally just capitalist propaganda Not everybody has the inherent need to be better than everybody else Everybody should be able to fucking survive if you want to be richer than other people go ahead Life shouldnt be about slaving away just to survive|1 Did you know that in the 2017 to 2018 flu season almost 80000 people in the United States alone died from the flu and 10 of them were in the healthy age range|0 Yeah I started tinkering around with the delta of the logs and that paints a bit clearer picture Its all hooked into a little manual Jupyter notebook so Ill punch in the daily numbers and keep an eye on it Right now theres way too much noise to have any sort of faith in it but seeing as Im headed back there its about the best guide I haveEDIT if youve got a bit of a background in this Id be interested in hearing how you approach the problem Ive done data science in a few fields but this one is kind of new|1 We probably arent using the fund right now But we might use it eventually to fix some of the damage done by printing moneyBut you are right We not only have the fund we have our own currency also|0 cancer car accidents murder covid19only happens to other people|0 Yeahme too Luckily Today nobody shot me while I was buying bread|1 vaccines drugs hospitals better housing isolationthat works more against the virus than air travels works for it|1 Honestly it looks less like the CDC is going the way of the CCP and more like itll be general anarchy with every state health department for themselves And no one at the helm|1 But RAM is not the choke point for those things A 2080ti is a nice card and what I would expect for somebody doing that kind of work but the ratio of RAM to processing power seems weird I would be interested to hear what tasks that kind of RAM helps with when you have a single consumer graphics card and processor because I wouldnt expect it would help with 3d rendering or that kind of stuff after a certain point|1 Im gonna have to stop smoking weed and weakening my immune system Fuck|0 It sounds sketchy maybe someone was pranking or just bullshitting you The government makes civilians sign NDAs Can anyone verify if thats a thing In a whole apartment complex there are people whod leak anyway they dont care or understand or are just nuts And kids would live in the complex and kids cant sign NDAs and theyd blabber about it to their friends or post on social media Theyd just cut off internet access and footcar traffic to lock down the complexCould you post it to rOlympia and see if anyone else has heard or pass it on to your local media so they can try to verify it|0 Lol Perfect|1 True My parents are 65 and 60 I dont even think of them as being old|1 The fuck Whos got time for all that Go kill yourself|0 Tldr recovered people are testing positive again for presence of the virus but not actually falling ill again It seems to be possible for a person to be an asymptomatic host daysweeks after successfully clearing their system of the virus|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our 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purely from his office Hes not working at Walmart or in a hospital correct me if Im wrong Im just saying theres quite a bit of downside risk to his ideas|0 i think its perfect deal for insurance sales|1 I think someone like this wants things to be easy Sprays and wipes are confusing I knew that trying to teach my husband a cleaning routine was not going to work I have spent years collecting things that I felt would be useful some day I set up a 3x3 pee tent outside the back door After coming home we go into the tent and change clothes The soiled clothes are put in a garbage bag but they are not immediately taken into the house to be washed I set up a large battery box on the back porch and inside is an industrial grade ozone generator 100 on Amazon Clothes get treated before being brought inside I also throw the newspaper mail and Amazon packages inside Im going to treat the groceries after I make my final run to Costco|1 Ah yeah that is good news Still important factors are the time for drugs to take effect and the cost of drugs If the amount of hospitalization relative to those infected is high enough compiled with high cost or high duration of stay could overwhelm systems|1 We have done virus isolation But I want to be clear the current tests that we developed at CDC is not were not sure of the natural history of how the virus is isolated Can you isolate it one day then three days later you can and we are seeing in the cases that are in the hospital Weve seen people had detectable virus then they didnt have detectable virus Then three days later they had detectable virus Were using the virus cultures right now and these individuals more to help us learn about this virus How much asymptomatic carriage in fact is there So I want people to understand that distinction Were not using it as a release criteria because we dont know the natural history of how this virus is secreted And this is what were continuing to learnRobert Redfield CDC Director I think the question you ask is really one of the fundamental basis of why this decision was made If we had an absolutely accurate test that was very sensitive and very specific then we could just test people and say Okay were good to go I want to get back to the broad concept that I mentioned when I made my brief introduction about the unknowns We dont know the accuracy of this test We havent done enough people who came in with negative then all sudden they were positiveAnthony S Fauci NIAIDWhite House BriefinghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvYgKC5am9vxw|1 No|0 Yeah like Korea is going to sell us tests in the middle of their outbreak lol|1 Yeah its March break next week so it will end up being two weeks|1 Interestingly I read that smokers are majorly underrepresented in the the hospitalized population in Italy BUT the smokers who do end up hospitalized have a bad time of it|0 yea but i bet was only nucleotide acid test right no butt swab|0 As someone who works in higher ed I can guarantee all are thinking of it Pandemic labelling by the WHO today will most likely be a trigger for emergency response plans to be set into action by many|0 Same idea Freezer died last night so frozen food thawed all night and ruined a shit load of meat Not happy |0 The czech republic also has this system only you call your doctor directly We also have ambulances that go to peoples homes and test them without having to go to the hospital This all works really well but theres still a ton of people that only cares for themselves and go to the hospital regardless|1 Well the profit motive is still very much alive in Sweden lol|1 Aww thank you for your kind words What a strange thing with your nerve Scary that its easy to think that someone is exaggerating|1 Fuck|0 Have you all had suspected cases come in Just wondering anecdotally what you are seeing on the front lines|0 httpswwwworldometersinfocoronaviruscoronavirusdeathtollAlso if you scroll down you can see how the death is accelerating|0 Im Italian living in Turin whats hes saying is just not true except maybe in the most critical towns You can leave the house but you need to keep a safe distance from every other person you can go to work you can go get groceries its still highly suggested to stay home tho Supermarkets are fine theres plenty of food Offices are open the government is asking everyone who can to work from home Ive been working from home for the past week They closed every non essential shop that deals with the public|1 Everyone should be masked Thats not even a question anymore More than enough evidence that it is better than nothing The cumulative effect of multiple better than nothing is substantial When the first wave is over and before a vaccine is available we will all be wearing them the 95 of those still here That will become a production priority I guarantee it That we were told otherwise by our leaders will be dealt with How harshly will depend on the death toll For now as there are not enough masks to go around health care workers must have priority Isolatehttpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 Probably but not yet and really you should stock up right now before it gets crazy|0 Hopefully its bought at a recreational level nationwide|1 So this would be passive immunisation Vaccine would be active immunisation This will help patients immensely|1 I thought you were going to say you could afford to hire a team of scientists and create the vaccine yourself|1 Fighting disinformation is part of fighting the virus|0 Except Italian and Chinese hospitals are overwhelmed with the numbers right now|1 Yeah the virus SARS exploits the immune system so another mode of treatment could be necessary|1 Lol the world is on fire|1 On one hand I think this is positive since ordering on Amazon would be a great way to keep people from going out and shopping in stores but these workers need a huge raise lots of paid sick leave and some phenomenal medical equipment to keep them safe|1 I do I just lost my job today because my entire company shut down due to the pandemic My fianc and I are talking about delaying our wedding me moving in with him overseas because of it The economy is looking like we are ready to enter another Great Depression and Im having to put travel rock climbing other outdoor adventures on hold due to the virus The virus is wrecking my life and Im not even infected yet My nightmare scenario is that it infects my elderly parents and they dont make it And then it infects me leaving me permanently disabled from lung damage and unable to work hike climb or trail run again Everything about this virus seems worst case scenario so Im starting to think all this is inevitable even though I know it likely is not Just any encouragement would help|1 Lets agree to disagree Pretty sure youre the exact person this original post is talking about|1 Cancel all debts held by China for all affected countries and distribute the funds as compensation to the people and businesses affected Seize all domestic assets opened by Chinese entities If all countries do this China is powerless to screw with any of us|0 There is one way to stop it National lockdown|0 Ah fuck I cant believe theyve done this|0 June Nope If you want a social life now you get a few roommates who will quarantine with you or you go it alone|0 Tbh thats would have been a decent move with a thawing arctic and glaciers melting Its mineral rich and gives us better Arctic reach|1 They are the best at trolling the numbers |1 Also I think they dont want to seem like a nanny stateWhen all the grandparents who look after young children die were going to need a lot of nannies|0 Meanwhile trump and the rest of the GOP is ingenting anti abortion laws into legislation hiding it inside healthcare laws up for vote|0 Some of you percentages are wrong|0 We are going to need expanded unemployment benefitsick leave and a pause on all mortgage rent and debt collections This is doable Whats not doable is stopping this virus from spreading and killing your parents and grandparents since we already missed the boat on that Fuck this stupid article|0 But Taiwan is pretty capitalist as well Also the current situation surely costs more than how Taiwan handled it which is not very capitalist so that doesnt make sense either|1 About 4 weeks ago I told my parents and some friends to stock up and they did but kinda halfassed Theyre thanking me now though|1 Shockingly soAnd we have way more its Anthroposophys home basehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiGoetheanumIn the 2 largest grocery store chains Migros Coop you can find fresh produce grown using religious principles biodynamics DemeterhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiDemeterInternational|1 The problem with this idea is that no work means no money for your company which ultimately means no paycheck at least for some people Major companies might be able to just pay people anyway but many small businesses would have major problems likely triggering a recession|0 Is today a good day to buy Stocks will go up eventually|1 I am no good at teaching shoot even helping with my kids homework i get too irritated husband is much better at it than me|1 COVID19 experts LIE about masks not being effective so they can get more of them for health care providers Ask yourself why do doctors and nurses wear them Also Dr Fauci on record said that mask will help in preventing contacting illness during mornings senate hearing|1 After it is far too late to stop itPolitical correctness will be the death of us all|0 Ive never realized how lucky I am to be living 15 minutes away from Hopkins|0 but this is what happens when you have a media that hypes everything into mass hysteriaI definitely take your point and agree that this 24 hour news cycle is horrendous for so many reasons But on the other hand media outlets like Fox News are still downplaying this outbreak as not a big deal and I think that kind of shit is way more damaging|0 Ahh Im in San Diego as well and Ive been feeling my throat sore and had a headache earlier today I hope its nothing serious|1 There are more and more idiots with zero sense of responsibility and these famous idiots who gains huge attention are just making the situation worse Even if he did not carry the virus what kind of information and attitude he is passing to the public while there are literately halfbaked idiots who only follow celebrities to discover their next idiocy mastering action|1 Do you have any details about this There was a suspected case at my kids school in the Philly suburbs mid January but they were cleared for the same reason and recovered quickly A week or two later my kids had a bad flu that lasted ten days but tested negative for influenza|0 Ive sent them BAT from Brave Browser I hope they sign up to receive it|1 Please share sources for quarantines being unsuccessful|1 Are we just going to ignore the fact that we are infinitely more equipped to handle medical issues than we were over a hundred fucking years ago I dont disagree with the first statement in that I believe we will all be affectedI get it its going to be terrible Here in a few years we could look up and see a hell of a lot of people have died from this disease But if this is as bad as a pandemic from 1918 in which tens of millions of people died then weve completely failed as a collective human race|0 There are no massproduced serological tests in Singapore They did a oneoff serological test in a research lab to solve a mystery it is nowhere near being manufactured|0 The magnitude of the effect is big That is more important than the p value|1 In canada too Although more people are taking it seriously now that most are out of jobs|0 Its just very difficult to implement those programs quickly so as much as it is absolutely necessary to make that switch theyre not prepared for it at all which is the real problem|0 You are probably better off away from somebody like that All of those people are going to be flooding hospitals here in a couple weeks|1 WHO cares|1 China did well Western countries are the ones being late on taking measures|1 Canada is at 13 now Confirmed husband of the 12th now infected|0 US got a cool website and walmart on their side Coronavirus is FUCKED|0 Why not start erecting temporary structures to increase ward capacity start getting people trained in basic ward help Start putting up more testing centres in car parks You know The obvious stuff|1 FEMA has no troops and the National Guard is at the state level The Army is not comingat least not to entrap us in our homes|0 What government incompetence All weve seen is incompetence at the Presidential and US Cabinet level Who appointed all the idiots Who appointed a lawyer and a drug lobbyist thats a complete idiot to head up Health and Human Services agency in charge of test kit distributionx200BWho didnt order the development of test kits on January 19th Who didnt close of inbound flights from China until after China closed most of it airports and after airlines themselves stopped flying because it wasnt economically viable to fly planes at 110th capacity A later example was the 300 passenger capacity Asiana flight to Vietnam with only 40 passengers on boardx200BWho hasnt ordered cruise ship travel be stopped That should have happened the second he saw the mess on the Diamond Princess in Japan There are business school books on the efficiency of Japanse manufacturing Toyota it was an eye opener to see them fail so miserably at a relatively simple taskfind a facility to separate the passengers test them and triage them for care as neededx200BWho can stand up in front of the press and with a straight face announce that only 46 passengers out of 3500 were tested Who could be so stupid that they dont even make sure the passengers have been notified before making the announcement The whole world watched the shit show at the Diamond Princess How fucking stupid does the President of the United States have to be to at least not say hey guys lets at least be sure we dont look this stupid on the world stage lets be prepared for a cruise ship infection Or better yet order the cancellation of all cruise ship travelx200BWho didnt convene a meeting with his Cabinent on January 19202122 or even the 23rd and at least go over a list of obvious needs even if just the items that we were seeing EVERY FUCKING DAY on TV in China masks protective suits for first responders and test kitsx200BWho repeatedly says the CDC numbers are wrong while standing in front of CDC scientistsx200BWho doesnt even have a 1st grade level understanding of how things work in the worldx200BWho doesnt even understand LED light bulbsx200BWho doesnt even understand low flow toilets and doesnt even have the brain to make an educated lie about how many times they need to be flushed 15 who the fuck flushes the toilet 15 timesx200BWho tried to kill Obamacare which gave the poor and middle class basic access to the health care they need BTW even if you dont have Obamacare it will do a lot to save your ass by increasing access to healthcare for those around youx200BThis is not a government emergency This is a public health emergency If our public health system fails then it becomes a governmentmilitaryzombie apocalypse emergencyx200BFuck anyone that has supported this ass clown Fuck any American that deflects from his incomptence in the same fashion ass CCP loyalists|0 Ok but Im not sure what that has to do with the ACE inhibitor factorAre you stating that if it were ACE inhibitors it leads to hypoxia that if they arent dying from hypoxia it is related to heart problems insteadAlso do people with heart problems always have high blood pressure and take ACE inhibitorsIm just very concerned and not just for myself Im concerned about all potentially affected|0 I have a friend who is a PhD in science and he scared the crap out of me He is prepared for him and his family to isolate for 90 days should it pop up in our state Im going to Costco tomorrow Ive had friends and family laugh at me but whatever Like people are sharing here itll eventually get used or donated|1 Well for your sake I hope zombies know how to deliveroo|1 Doesnt say a change in criteria as weve not moved phases yet Doesnt matter if you do 1 or 10000 ignoring community spreaders is hiding the true nature of the infection rates in UK|0 takes this video to a whole new level of fucked up|0 1 What he is doing is charity no one is forcing him so you dont need to tax ie steal from people to get things like this done 2 Are you blind Do you not see how incompetent the government has been acting in response to this crisis And you want to give these stupid corrupt people more money|0 Of course this could be done if state of emergency is declared NotstandsgesetzeBut nobody in the german government has the balls Angela Merkel is probably hiding in the Kanzlerbunker|0 You would hope everybody has heard of it by now|1 Yeah but none of these cases were in Rome the hot seat of Catholicism and Carnival actually isnt that big of a tourist pull in Italy|1 They fucked it up in 1918 too|0 Worst part is by the time a few kids start getting sick that means many more are also sick and have probably infected their families as well Now all the parents who said but I cant miss work or who will watch the kids will have to figure that out anyway The schools will inevitably close why not do it now BEFORE they all start getting infected and spreading it|0 The box is a little room that was supposedly built by Abraham and his son Ishmael but its been repaired so much over the years that none of it is original except the black stone in the corner|1 This can be sold by making this sub upvotes only Im not sure if it is something mods can do or if it requires admins|0 Almost all infected with symptoms will lead to pneumonia and thats why CT scan is one of the important method for Chinese doctors to see if the person got this coronavirus I have said it in another comment section but feel necessary to repeat this in many cases even for the patients dont cough that much or at a very early stage of infection their CT image shows their lungs are already infected and that includes young people But in China some young patients eventually get over this and their pneumonia somehow cured by their immune system I guess thats why they said young people can handle this better But this is not promised and many still need to be hospitalized when condition getting worse Thats why as a Chinese I feel weird when western people keep referring this as just a flu|0 I dont think china will get those foreign companies againIt has put negative impact on general public sure But I am not so sure about big tech like google and apple I dont think they will be able to do business in Chinese market without bending knee to CCP in one way or another I have been a fan of Elon Musk and still am but I am pretty sure China will steal electric car tech from Tesla from its Chinese factory and soon make cheap electric cars with slave labor|1 Seriously I dont want this virus in California Sign this petition Lets take one step at a time Cancel Coachella People from all over the world comw to it Its a tragedy in the making httpchngitZMSdQYKRXx|0 Except for you know the patient in Chicagoland who got the virus somewhere in the environment and they have no idea how|0 Fuck you|0 Man this Administration is doing a terrible job Sad|0 I just picked a number at the high end of the range that people have been throwing around If you think its closer to 1 add 2 weeks to my estimates if you think its closer to 10 take a Valium and subtract 2 weeks Precision on mortality rate or time to kill doesnt matter much to my point the only number I really needed to get close was the doubling time|0 I am the working poor I get by by being frugal You stock up a little each paycheck I get that some people need help but everyone can cut back a little to plan for disaster If youre been preparing you wont starve immediately Not in regards to Covid but what Ive seen people around me do makes me beyond cynical Like people selling their food stamps half price to buy illegal drugs Also I went to work today with a cough and thoroughly bleach wiped everything down in between customers|0 Payroll tax cuts have their place This is not it Thats why the Democrats dont support it now but have in the pastAnd no we cant wait to call out people We need to call people out now while people are paying attention Why would you want to wait until all this dies down to call out people who cant be trusted in an emergency|0 There were around 8000 cases of SARS across 17 countries This virus is already at over 78000 cases across 33 countries and international cases are exploding by the day In terms of infectiousness I dont think SARS is a good comparison|1 It will be encouraging if Italy is able to have peak infections this early They havent welded doors shut like China Their response is probably a lot closer to what we will see in western countries|1 Well I dont care about the real ones I care about the real serious ones|0 If he had mild flu symptoms why did they suddenly test him for coronavirus Did they ever explain|0 Its great corona virus association of Asia|1 Thats messed up especially in situations like these|1 Who the fuck down voted you 100|0 Thats a good call|1 If people act like they do when they have the flu this will infect most of the planet and kill tens of millions|0 What a terrible attitude |0 Closing your eyes doesnt change reality friend|0 My concern is that March break is going to be a major wildcard the week or two after kids return to school Too many Canadians are planning to travel to the States which appears to be dropping the ball There are three at risk people in my household myself included I am going to have to make a judgement call when the time comes The health and well being of my family is my responsibility Trusting the school board or government to make that safety paramount over all of the other factors they have to deal with would be foolish|1 There is no evidence of immunity post recovery recovered patients could get infected again|0 This is why we cant have nice things|0 And you can connect each team in like a 5 day span I know even without playing the Jazz like 4 other teams used the same charter plane within a couple days span|1 Its already been proven their death tolls arent accurate|0 Exactly A much more coherent strategy is to panic buy hens|0 Can anyone tell me how this doesnt violate the freedom of the press amendment from the bill of rights Serious inquiry|0 Meanwhile in the rest of the worldhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiSickleaveOthercountriesAt least 145 countries provide paid sick days for short or longterm illnesses with 127 providing a week or more annually 98 countries guarantee one month or more of paid sick days60|0 As I said its an extremely marginal good thing Im not downplaying the gravity of the situation at all Please pray for our healthcare workers and all of us|1 Didnt realize that was the actual download link until after I downloaded the PDF thanks|1 Im pretty sure this is true in the same way you can catch pretty much anything again after enough time has passed Ie why we get the flu shot every year instead of just once|1 Force majeure clauses which excludes coverage in the event of natural disaster war terrorist attacks and pandemics|0 Definitely not looking a gift horse in the mouth|1 Best of luck I hope the tests start coming back faster and you have the PPE you can dream of|1 Safer when Certainly not safer after you contract a serious case of this then you would want to be close to a large well funded hospital Suburban may be better than rural or urban in that case|1 My husband and I have been stocking up on food and supplies we can only really prep for a month at time with our current budget yet this already is allowing a bit of self quarentine here at home I can hermit up if need be only time we really go out is for a hike or to OB visits or to check on family As long as they allot for grocery shopping I say quarantine in home is not an awful idea for if areas start getting high infected numbers|0 I think borders might be sealed up considerably at all ports of entry but a national shutdown at this point seems a bit out of character for this lazy behind the curve government|0 Honestly bro Id avoid Washington at all costs Nobody knows how that kid got infected and now the first US death has been reported in Washington|0 Potentially bad news httpsmobiletwittercomdavidasinclairstatus1239234810947801088 They need to put out a damn study already though|0 Im spending my last semester of law school going online for class and almost assuredly not getting a graduation ceremony This shit sucks|0 Terrifying we have to look after each other|0 God bless this country|1 Ya my neighbor is convinced that there are 500000 people in the US with it Given that many are asymptomatic and get through it with mild symptoms and like you mentioned the extreme ongoing lack of testing I can see why theyd think that|1 OMG Disneyland is the last place on Earth you should go Full of disgusting snot bags|0 I leave tomorrow very seriously considering cancelling|0 Not sure if this is across all store this is at st austell fair sized town in Cornwall|1 Its paywalled Can someone help out|1 No such thing thats just capitalism with generous safety social net|1 Yes its an excellent PR opportunity mixed with an extended free trial The expense involved with offering free media to people who werent paying you anyway is minimal the potential benefits of bringing in thousands of new customers are high Once Corona Madness reaches its peak you can end offer a I survived the virus celebratory subscription package at the regular priceThats if enough people survive at least|1 The virus would have likely given them some of the symptoms to cause respiratory problems No excuse they caught in the first place Even if they had complications|0 People flock to shops and empty them when theres like 3 inches of snow forecasted You really think panic buying wont happen|0 yeah but greenland is really where its at|1 As someone who was once railroaded for something I did not say it happens In my case I made an innocuous comment truly and I cant even remember what it was now 20 years back but somehow it got reported as an incredibly racist misogynist slur to the boss and I got fired Im pretty sure she heard me right but just didnt like me I mean its not like what I said even sounded like what she reported Sigh|0 Agreed|1 Bordering on criminal negligence surely|0 4chan has been described as pissing in a sea of piss But every now and then some real shit comes trickling out|0 Nah any amount of tenure at a large company provides you with plenty of PTO to take 2 weeks|0 But its true right|1 Lethbridge Alberta here I stocked up last weekend on some canned goods and TP only because the stuff I wanted was on sale I looked like an extreme couponer or just bargain hunter at my local Walmart|1 yes they have such low levels of viruses that it cant be noticedand cause it locates in the bottom of the lungs harder to test and get results|1 TBF doomers were saying we were all gonna die I saw folks claiming a 50 death toll on the extreme end the more reasonable doomers were screaming 10 or more|0 Hi Im a teacher Im constantly getting sick because kids are not only filthy germbags but filthy germbags without a sense of hygiene or etiquette when sick Given that kids can be carriers with mild symptoms I fully expect teachers to get COVID at a much higher rate than the average population A teacher might have several classes with 2030 kids in them each every day|0 My husbands company banned international travel about a month ago but wont restrict domestic travel yetEdit it was actually like 17 days ago but it feels like 3 months ago in this timeline|1 I will be messaging you in 3 hours on 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Current infected is underreported due to shortage of testing kits|0 Amazing a country that actually puts the health of its people above stock markets elections and bureaucratic facesavingThe CDC director should be in prison|1 There was already information of this sort published extrapolating from experiences with the earlier SARS coronavirusCertainly its important that studies get repeated with this one but there doesnt seem to be a drastic difference|1 stay home dont get close to anyone If symptoms worsen call the hospital They put you on oxygen and ventilators|0 Your comment will age well Sweden appears to have also stopped publishing confirmed cases as of this afternoon|1 Or the warden help to hide the fact too|1 One its called rounding and two the Spanish flu was 10 httpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources1918pandemich1n1html|0 Theyre telling the Chinese citizens that he froze to death in the snow What a way to honour his memory|0 Dude no one cut funding Stop being sheep|0 Singapore does this Employers are to grant paid hospitalisationmedical leave if their employees have been issued with a quarantine order or leave of absence I feel that this has really increased the number of people going to both private and government setup clinics because even if you are not suspected to have the disease youre sent home with a subsidised bill and sweet sweet 5 days of medical leave My countrys already mostly over the panic but I do hope the rest of the world pulls through as well Cheers to you all|1 Most people dont like being the centre of attention in public And being one of the first to wear a mask turns heads Especially since the majority of people think its just the flu I wish everyone would wear them But they just wont until an official announcement advises it|0 Lol yeah Im afraid I wont last long either We went doomsday shopping today Bought masks food water and medicine for a month But when the shit hits the fan I dont know if any of it is gonna help much Im not a prepper guy I very hesitantly came to the conclusion that its time to get ready|1 Not want to be a lunatic or something but bothers me how little the matter is dealt here in Brazil Come on there are confirmed cases on Italy home country of a lot of gringos who came here to party and Carnaval Will happen without any safe measures It seems that everyone is more interested in make costumes mocking Bolsonaro or Lula than make sure we will be ready to deal with the disease Hell its seems like anyone isnt even caring about the ones we already have here like measles zika dengue|0 If they really are testing only the ones with severe covid symptoms shouldnt the number of infected be very close to 100 of the tests How can it be that 75 of the people who go to the hospital with severe covid symptoms actually have a different disease in this period with similar symptoms|0 I can tell them they are positive There you go|1 Can you imagine the bill for critical care to an uninsured person I am sure there are many who just wont bother going to the hospital and give in to death but not before spreading the virus as much as possible rather than lose everything and go into bankruptcy|0 Yeah Theres also the community part where opening churches for prayer not masses probably helps with the anxiety of the general populace and gives them a feeling of not being abandoned in the time of needOf course if the churches become packed its a problem but should decent precautions be taken opening the churches for silent prayer wont necessarily be the worst thing to do|0 Not OP but its REALLY 5050 on this I manage a gas station yes Will I still receive pay Yes Do I have to deal with potentially infected people every day Yes Its fucking no win I feel but I really feel for individuals working in the hospitalityentertainment industry|1 Truth died a long time ago bud|0 Yea BuT wE wIlL tAkE iT oN tHe ChIn BeTtEr|1 and yet many still dont take it seriously|1 Thats what it was like in the very early 90s My dad purchased a business line to our house and sold access to neighbors|1 The guys on wall street are on average as dumb as anyone but their mistakes tend to be paid for by other people creating the illusion of success|1 LoL so true People are insane|1 a undocumented cases and b how much of the spread has been at healthcare or retirement facilities Hospitalization rate may come down a huge amount|1 Didnt a study come out saying they thought the actual fatality rate was between 36 or something|0 Well I think the point was more about people who arent in such close proximity to these things like your grandfather And hes absolutely right We have extremely short attention spans when it comes to crises|1 If we are prepared and wrong we have extra food and supplies we are going to use anyway If you are wrong people you know will die|0 Yeah they totally cancel every major national sports league for just the flu bro|0 My understanding is they serve no purpose besides to killThey serve no purpose beside to replicate Killing is just a side effect of them using our bodies as raw material|0 Great for the CCP People who test negative can therefore be rounded up and sent to the crematorium before they can even think about revolting|1 By prolonging the inevitable panic it gives researchers more time to hopefully develop a vaccine or learn more about the virus It also allows officials to prepare for the worst ahead of time Are they actually doing that though That remains to be seen|0 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4591635Please stop spreading misinformation Theyre a lot of stupid people in the world that could die from it|0 Honestly though you dont think theres even a slight possibility that could be a PR move I know its too soon to say definately but its entirely possible|1 Yo linu its holiday Netflix is your friend Hot coco and fuck the virusStay safe|1 Theyre scrambling to figure out how they could blame it on Trump|0 But also if we have all of our public health officials the ones with integrity resigning during the worst pandemic in living memories thats gonna be baaaad|0 Not to mention what Dr Campbell said about the more virulent strain in Iran possibly causing heart infections terrifying|0 Im a selfdefence teacher and closed now my schools parents with kids totally cool with it my younger adults not so much saying the risk groups should stay home and the older once are okay with it|1 Heatsun kill it too|0 They also likely came into close contact with infected patients ie checking their throatsmouths their ears etc If it can be spread simply by having an infected patient breathe in your face then doctors already have a higher risk of coming into contact with the virus than most of the population|0 Some epidemiologists think China only tested 2030 of the population that was actually infected Considering their criteria shifted to requiring pneumonia like symptoms around the time of the lock down that makes some sense But even if they missed that many people the CFR would still be around 1 That is still bad news especially for NHS|0 Arent we a bit foolish thinking about that The government controlling there people |1 Does the virus have effects on the autonomic nervous system andor central nervous system If so how likely is it that the mechanism of the virus inducing respiratory distress is through blocking efferent nerves that innervate respiratory muscle from getting an excitatory signal from the central nervous system|0 Coronavirus is offended to be called a virus and says that its racist |0 One of you is wrong|0 This happened at my school too The latin teacher and some other students also came back from Italy last week and all of them were sick Idk who they are and idk the teacher but its pretty scary since if it spreads the whole school is screwed|0 Ever heard of the Great Depression Banks failed People lost their jobs People starved Sickness increased People died If the worlds economy collapses then it will be worse than the Coronaviruswhich still is a small pandemic historically speaking|0 Stop touching it just like stop touch your face|0 Could somebody calculate the percentage of Italians infected and dead Just trying to get an idea of the scope of the Italian population thats been hit by this Thanks in advance|0 I feel you man I have elderly at home which prevents me from going out and my buds were pretty much going to have a reunion trip They are still talking about going but its gonna be a sad no from me|0 Countries with regulations are doing fine Our issue is corrupted regulations designed to enrich the writers of the bills and their friends|1 Yeah theyre mostly quarantine centers so you cant go and spread it to other people If youre actually sick theyll drag you to an actual hospital|0 This is crazy You need to tell this to a reporter|0 Top left number currently infectedBelow that cumulative infected current death dischargedhttpsncovdxycnncovh5viewpneumoniaThey dont line up perfectly through the day but thats what its supposed to show|0 For something that doubles every couple of days having 6x the population is meaningless|0 Half a billion that Bloomberg dropped on a lark to run for president would have helped too Bill is indeed a force of good some others are just narcissists|1 South Korean article Lol Another BS lie like that North Koreans believe in unicorns or that executed aunt of Kim Jong Un who turned out to be alive and plethora of other officials|1 It would be great if that could somehow work but thats just not even in the realm of reality Someone somewhere has to pay for all of the resources that 400 million people use over a 2 week period plus our infrastructure requites people to work in many MANY areas in order for anything to function|1 Ive always been a very empathetic person and I e almost completely withdrawn from our current society It makes me so sad and frustrated I decided to start a business and work from home I know there are still great people out there but as a whole it makes me feel sick|0 Okay so recent sources have suggested that asymptomatic transmission is negligible the transmission rate is highest in the first few days symptoms appear those with mild symptoms have high transmission but its less infectious those with mild symptoms that turn into more serious conditions retain high transmission and are very infectiousMaria van Kerkhove the WHOs head of emerging diseases and zoonoses unit An early report on a cluster of cases in Germany caused a huge stir when the authors claimed a woman from China who was asymptomatic had infected several colleagues in Germany when she visited her companys headquarters there It was later revealed the woman had had some symptoms while she was in Germany but sloughed them off as jet lag Despite that the authors continue to describe her as having infected others before she became ill People infected with Covid19 who are truly asymptomatic are rare Van Kerkhove said Studies in China estimate that about 12 of confirmed cases are asymptomatic But Van Kerkhove said when the scientists on the WHO mission to China pressed for more detail it became clear that most of the people who were first described as asymptomatic actually were presymptomatic theyd been detected through contact tracing before their symptoms manifested So very very few she said And asymptomatic cases are definitely not a major driver of transmissionhttpswwwstatnewscom20200306werelearningalotaboutthecoronavirusitwillhelpusassessriskhttpswwwstatnewscom20200306werelearningalotaboutthecoronavirusitwillhelpusassessrisk People who contract the novel coronavirus emit high amounts of virus very early on in their infection according to a new study from Germany that helps to explain the rapid and efficient way in which the virus has spread around the world At the same time the study suggests that while people with mild infections can still test positive by throat swabs for days and even weeks after their illness those who are only mildly sick are likely not still infectious by about 10 days after they start to experience symptoms Osterholm said the data in the paper confirm what the spread of the disease has been signaling early and potentially highly efficient transmission of the virus occurs before clinical symptoms or in conjunction with the very first mild symptomshttpswwwstatnewscom20200309peopleshedhighlevelsofcoronavirusstudyfindsbutmostarelikelynotinfectiousafterrecoverybeginshttpswwwstatnewscom20200309peopleshedhighlevelsofcoronavirusstudyfindsbutmostarelikelynotinfectiousafterrecoverybegins|1 I dont think you understand what fiduciary responsibility means A csuite executive has to ask himself how will this choice profit my company before any decision making as mandated by code|1 That train of thought is really helpful and my therapist gave me similar methods to cope and it really helps|1 Im willing to bet that Orlando will have a massive outbreak soon Spring break Disney World Florida negligently turning a blind eye and not testing Feels like a recipe for disaster|0 Its especially bad because random people come into the same building though those people shouldnt be dumb and just stay away Lots of old people too So yeah its a pretty awful situation|1 That and treatment makes a huge difference in terms of survivability for those with severe cases You see this in italy right now They dont have room in their hospitalsICUs and are having to turn people away who are then dying This was also the case in Wuhan China solved this by literally building entirely new hospitals over the course of like a week and a half|1 Ive been nervous as well Ive realized I cant eat grocery shop go to school work to pay rent and more without risking the same level of likely exposure as Disney since Disney is my community Unless our government does something all we can do is stay very on our hygiene which its concerning how many people werent in the first place Im still considering getting a reusable mask or something it apparently helps you not to spread it if you do have it a bit I dont expect many people to try though I saw a grown man picking his nose a few days ago We need strict rules to really do anything|1 A passage that i found moving and advisableTry to have mercy on that myriad of older people you could exterminate It is not your fault I know but of those who put it in your head that you are exaggerating and even this testimony may seem just an exaggeration for those who are far from the epidemic but please listen to us try to leave the house only to indispensable things|1 Who do you propose we start testing We dont have a group of sick people to test like China did You propose we test everyone across the US|0 As an honest American who has also lived overseas I disagree with you lolFTFY|1 Welp this time Grandpa is gonna die so that might be enough to get people out in the streets with pitchforksI hope hope VP Pence is praying really hard to solve this outbreak|1 p95 or n95 respirators are good but they are big|1 Im sure any ebola precautions are probably adequate for this Im not a doctor but it seems ebola would require even stricter precautions|1 Maybe if you explain it like multilevel marketing people will get it If you sell the virus to 10 friends and they sell it to 10 friends|1 Locally it could Some town out there is going to get smart and just lock people out|1 My dumb SIL posted pictures of herself today at a party in Denver and people were doing keg stands and sharing the tap It really bothers me how selfish and irresponsible some people are in times like this|0 I work in a radiation oncology department at the biggest center in our state currently are doing no screening besides asking everyone at the door do you feel sick If no you are let inside The therapists treating these patients should be tested daily but it wont happen and a lot of lives will be lost because of it|0 I thought I read somewhere you dont have to pay But i Guess thats not the case Well I guess you should just assume you have it and Stay home What state are u in my contaminated chum|0 death or serious physical injury lawyers are a slippery bunch Theyll claim that Covid19 is not going to statistically cause either of these Now back to work|0 Youre in a fucking dream world dude Your first paragraph is completely meaningless and either intentionally misleading or ignorant AF The ONLY reason why numbers are as low as they are and community spread has been limited to MULTIPLE wtf is a relatively small area in your world locations with hundreds and now thousands of miles between them is because we are at inception The only IF is how effective containment strategies once implemented prove to be You do realize many many thousands will become infected in a BEST case scenario Worst case is unimaginable|0 I agree There are still thousands of people sick with a contagious disease that can kill people It makes sense to shut down the cities|0 How familiar is he with the wet market in general Because they had a lot of bizarre things for sale there|0 Gotta have it open since Epsteins lolita island is no longer open to visit for the Disney cruise ships|0 Theyre overwelemend so short on personnel to help This obviously is not how any facility would normally operate|1 I have questions that might make me seem a little dumb but Im genuinely curious From everything I just read in this report the virus and subsequent treatment sound like nothing more than a mild case of pneumonia His O2 sats never dropped dangerously low and the only treatment used was supplemental oxygen and other basic care ibuprofen etc right Does this mean we have less to worry about than media is making it seem What about all the deaths confirmed to be linked to the 2019 novel coronavirus Is this because of comorbidity or lack of healthcare or was this guy not an accurate representation of the virusAgain forgive me if this sounds silly or Im asking the wrong questions Im not an MD or anything special just a 19 year old kid entering healthcare and I couldnt make some of this add up|1 Where are we right now with the official number of infecteddeaths worldwide and then whats OUR estimate since we know the official tally is so off|1 Oh wow Sobering So how worried should people in their low 20s be By the way I feel like Im talking to a celebrity thanks for answering|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I recently heard bio weapons expert Dr Steve Hatfilll talk about past research into a SARS vaccine He said the problem was when the mice who developed antibodies following vaccination were reintroduced to the virus Their reaction to being reexposed was very severe esp to lungs and the vaccine could not advance to human trials in the US|0 I dont find this to be coincidence at all The mortality rate is directly related to the higher infection rate The provinces neighboring Hubei are seeing relatively higher infection rates too There are many graphs being published that show thisI think the reason this is happening is that once hospitals get overloaded in a given city then the citys mortality rate rapidly increases because there arent enough ventilators doctors and oxygen People stop going to hospitals and it spreads in the homes of the infectedTheres also a thing where 20 of people get a symptom of diarrhea and theres a theory going around that like some of our other recent coronaviruses it could be spreading via the fecal oral route China has those kneeling toilets too and they are less sanitary than what other developed nations are used too The reason we know this is because active virus was detected in a stool sample in one of the western countries but they hadnt proceeded any further beyond noting thatSo if someone stays home because the hospitals are full and is using a washroom at home its quite possible that with both the fecal and oral route and with the amount of space afforded in cramped living conditions they will infect their whole family|1 How do they still have limited resources for testingA million test kits and every commercial lab in the US is allowed to process tests What the ll|0 1 Consolidation and vertical integration of pharmaceutical suppliers manufacturers and distributors is probably the number one cause of cost increases Pharma manufacturers pharmacy benefit managers and pharmacies all are out there to profit and a incredibly complex web of entities makes sure that no one has any price transparency Very few players means little competition and the complexity means huge barriers to entry keep anyone else out 2 We tend to overuse and over charge for diagnostic tests that may not be needed in some cases This is partly to reduce risk of lawsuits as we are very litigious against doctors But also hospitals encourage high usage of these tests to help make up for the losses they are required legally to take on by caring for the uninsured Hospitals sometimes take losses on doctors salaries because they know if they employ them they can force them to use their diagnostic facilities 3 Palliative care is viewed as a defeat We dont encourage patients to define before hand the extent of intervention they desire so we do everything we can to keep them alive even beyond what would be comfortable or perhaps desirable for the patient 4 The model health care is paid for is generally by the amount of service provided We are just staring to incorporate health care outcomes into how these services are paid for this was thanks to Obama and the ACA Without incorporating quality of outcomes and utilization into the payment model lots of unnecessary care was encouraged by the model itself 5 Massive administrative overhead due to a system with multiple insurance companies6 Lack of good technological standards to help share information effectively The ACA somewhat helped with this but the software and standards out there are still incredibly primitive There are no doubt other major factors but these are a few I know well enough to explain|1 Unlike every other country that didnt stop flights for a month then welcomed people back to mingle after pulling them out of the petri dish directly lol|1 My wedding is in August Lord knows how all this will be then Its too early to cancel out of fear or possibly Im keeping an eye on everything but might cancel in the long run|0 Sadly far to many people are just joking about this situation and saying its no worse than the flu Also you constantly hear it only kills old people I dont need to worryIts like people dont care that potentially their parents and grandparents could die from this|0 Please refrain from using ableist termsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 I doubt sanctions matter much in this case The whole world right now has a shortage of the PPE gear that is needed The biggest manufacturer of these things is China and China is producing less than 13 of what it needs domestically right nowI dont know why you are still travelling internationally Staying in an enclosed space with a couple hundred strangers with closed air circulation is just not a good idea right now|0 If Im standing next to an infected person coughing and sneezing in public will a mask protect me or notI think the answer is yes|1 Yes but there is no mass cases yet|0 r u gonna do some WALL ST BETS LMAO|1 FYI you can still be contagious while taking antibiotics and they do jack squat if what you have is viral Next time you should stay home while you have symptoms of an infectious disease even if it means some temporary disruption to your daily life|0 CDC Deputy Director said they are doing a great job|1 Ah Thats what Ive been wondering too If they are seeing numbers decrease why are they so quick to start opening businesses again Seems silly to me Thanks stay safe|1 Well it seems likely that in ten days or so we will be where Italy is today in terms of number of infections and probably fatalities Keeping schools open under those circumstances might prove ah challenging lets say|0 Finally a quality post with actual useful information and NO speculation Thank you for this|1 The US is 10 days behind ItalyI hope everyone realizes that|1 Sure and everything you listed still pales in comparison to COVID19 Thats the pointThe US cut rates by half a percentage point and the fed injected 15 trillion to stabilize the markets and ease worry from the big banks Multiple major cities are on lockdown and all travel to Europe has been suspended Major sports leagues have suspended operations andor terminated the season This is all in less than a month after the first confirmed case arising as a result from community spread At no point has the HIV epidemic been within the same galaxy Hell it hasnt even been playing the same sport in regards to COVID19 and the importance in stopping itId actually bet on a vaccine by middle of next year personally but well see and imo it will mostly be due to the aforementioned laissezfaire attitude and testing by the Chinese government|0 I have been prepping After the CDC announcement today I told a coworker to watch it She said oh its just the flu it will pass quickly She saw the look on my face and then said I dont really want to watch because I dont think it will be bad ignorance is bliss I said OK and walked away Now I know not to say anything else to her|0 Lobyists whining about the impact to shareholders|0 I believe my asshole just inverted in horror at that thought Didnt know it could do that|0 The threat to the American public remains low|0 Outline works on WaPo but not NYT fyi Archive works for all of them|0 I suspect the latter unfortunately But im sure the us is not only one in this position|0 US may have prevented 95 of virus cases if it acted on scientists warning and existing data rather than calling it a hoax and blaming Democrats sWish I could say we did much better but|0 Hey thank you so much for helping outIm on a Mac so the prompt may be a bit different Open up FAHControl click on configure select the identity tab and input the following number under team number236269 Then click save and you should be good to goAlso please consider joining Rosetta tooThank you so much for your help It is much appreciated|1 Stock up on peanut butter calorie rich and full of protein Also get honey and jam again calorie rich And cleaning stuff bleach is known to kill the coronavirus as well as alcohol but thats now more difficult to find Dettol or normal disinfectant does not kill it On Sunday I bought the last of the bleach from my big Tesco|0 Plenty of people in their 30s and 40s are dyingThis is absolutely not true The vast vast majority of the death toll is above 60 years The average has been 80 years|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnncomworldlivenewscoronavirusoutbreak031620intlhnkh7af238a717f5fc8b08230d3ddaa5c2fdI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Im 31 weeks pregnant due in May Im so freaking scared|0 Thats the first cherished British tradition down the pan What next|1 Thank you Wouldnt have figured that out myself|1 Im ppretty happy with my Soros ancestry so Im not sure why youd take a dig at it|1 Imagine you are an annoying drunk person Thats the appeal|0 Yes here we go again specifying the specific limitations up front This study doesnt exist in a vacuum Theres a ton of tobacconicotineACE2 receptors aplenty but this answers specific questions raised in a previous article preprint What about Asian vs Caucasian What about different age groups What about male vs female What about nonsmokers vs smokers This is a followup in response to those precise questions which were asked and no one has ever asked these questions before This is science in rapid ferment being investigated for the first time right in front of our eyes Instead of casual dismissal in kneejerk Luddite fashion it should raise further avenues of investigation which includes data mining of existing datasets We are also building atop of knowledge gained in the two decades since SARSCov1 To witThe text has a lot of specific terminologies which I do not understand unfortunately and descriptions of processes that I can neither confirm nor refuteI left the post above because I had the feeling that people are looking for statistics that will allow them to sleep peacefully comforting themselves with thoughts that they are not Asians and moreover do not smoke And so this study of the tissue of cancer patients pops up a second or third timeWell if you just like to collect and analyze information here are two patents both identical if I understood correctly on the same topichttpspatentsgooglecompatentUS7794707httpspatentsgooglecompatentUS7794707httpspatentsgooglecompatentEP2047867B1httpspatentsgooglecompatentEP2047867B1|1 Hope you are alright and doing better Hope it is just a brief cold and your relative is doing better soon as well|1 I have a beard so face masks wont work for me Also theyre not very effective overall|0 And have an accurate measure of how virulent it is so that everyone can stop freaking the fuck out but still remain in their homes until a vaccine is announced|0 The problem with your forecast is that outbreaks dont happen evenly across the country all at once They overwhelm a single hospital before spreading to another area CFR will be higher than predicted in those situations|0 Hopefully if it goes the way it does in Italy panic buying and blaming should be over in a few weeks Of course lets hope the UK doesnt follow the same infected and death toll as Italy has|0 In LA here at this point its already probably past a point of quarantine tbh people are still gathering in groups all over with no real cares to the actual problem at hand There is no real testing going on and i expect at this time in the next two week to have a severe outbreak incapacitating hospitals since approximately 20 require some form of hospital careits only the flu its only a 2 death rate for old people and yet people dont take into account what happens to everyone else who needs medical care when hospitals are flooded with people freaking out because they have it or do need serious care 24 death rate for Covid19 is not an accurate number of actual deaths that will be caused by this I honestly cant believe the ineptitude of everyone around me the stupidity is the media and their over reactions and the government and their under reactions Trump nor the cdc are the problems here the information has been online since January If you didnt prepare for this then than you are the problem stop digging yourselves in a whole and paying attention to more than wtf snoopdog and the kardashians are doing pick up a book learn something and pay attention to the shit going on around you and in the news globally More than anything else stop acting like your not part of the problem because you are the problem guess im just venting|0 Well theres a reason they call it going viral|1 No apologies required this is a great way to present the data more so than my attempt Let me know if I can help with sharing of more data|1 Be safe hopefully now you can assess the situation for yourself a bit better now|1 There had been famines throughout the region going back centuries there were even administrative famines under the Tsar these were nothing new The Soviet Union ended them immediately following WWII the greatest calamity any nation faced during the 20th centuryThe 100 million figure is completely fabricated the black books authors even admit this it even includes the deaths of german soldiers within the USSR during WWIIChernobyl was worsened by bureaucracy corruption and mismanagement this is no different than the current coronavirus crisis in the US or the broader healthcare crisis in the US or the fact that the US military just failed an audit where it somehow lost 63 trillion dollarsThe modern middle class in capitalist countries is small and shrinking fast Working class people suffer every day smart phone or not|0 I think the better question is why the United States the most prosperous and one of the most developed countries in the world has been so blatantly incompetent in response to this outbreak|1 I am immunocompromised The risk is too high for me My daughter will be off school from now until|0 well find out we have the benefit of people less dense populations who also dont intermingle quite as much and a far more isolated elderly community very few multigenerational homes Probably the most sane response Ive heard so far was vastly increased measures around nursing homes etc|1 Brutal They need to shutdown like Italy|0 Probably Although a nursing facility with lots of very elderly people who also have underlying conditions sounds like the exactly the kind of place where a 33 fatality rate is possible |0 Or it might have been the illegal war that has destabilised the entire Middle EastOr the goldOr the overspending|0 is vulnerable to one person or a small group returning to the store multiple times|0 I went through all this a few weeks ago in being livid at the lack of proactive social isolationWe have no hard data there are long term impacts seems like bloodbrain barrier happens in very weak patients We have enough recovery data to determine the virus does disappear from the system with enough white blood cells to contain it There are outliers but it hasnt been the majority of the mild cases so farGovernment is between a rock and hard place You take the very severe cost of a 2nd wave later in the year look at China and South Korea very closely if severely self isolate now or you get peoples immune systems built up in the majority of healthy people so our health care systems can deal with severe cases over a longer spreadI have my doubts still over this plan but Id rather not close schoolsunis put older grandparents under strainrisk and wait for the time to strike Its almost leaving people to planprepare themselves without being in panicStupid decisions get made in panics|0 Then they should go down with their people If 60 of their population is supposed to be infected they should be the first ones to be infected|0 No youve completely missed the point and youre completely naive if you think people are wearing masks in the west to protect the general public from their own asymptomatic transmission Theyre wearing them with the expectation they provide personal protection and they are idiots for doing so My entire post was in reply to question about use in a personal protection scenario specifically outside of the WHO guidelines If your goal is to achieve some sort of quasi herd immunity through the use of masks for an entire population then have some bad news for your regarding supply and logistics|0 Yeah didnt happen last night The Whitehouse has a briefing scheduled for 330 today though|1 Which is ironic considering the demographic that seems to be dying the most during this pandemic are voting aged senior citizens born between 1946 and 1964 this specific demographic represents nearly 20 of the American public|0 Sounds like a ransom payment|1 he is telling the truth|1 Thank you sister You are helping us a ton Stay safe|1 Im so annoyed by the nurses Shaming people for being worried and preparing should things go south|0 Im interested in who these 7000 people who have been tested in Alberta are As far as I know you dont get it unless youve travelled or been in contact with someone who has Or show mega symptoms maybe|1 Starting to feel a lot better about living in Idaho|1 Underrated reply lol|1 We win The public health authority still stick with the sneeze into a tissue and bin it And well be fine This country feels very much like a rabbit in headlights right now|1 So much wasted beauty and love of life that could have been avoided|1 Just what I was looking for Thanks|1 Bring me back to the boring days in which hollywood gossip was the biggest story of the day|0 Nice deletions|1 The Asymptomatic are super spreaders|1 Ill take the Conona Frappuccino 20oz with room for cream19oz|0 But Germany has no deaths reported They must be doing something right|0 More people die from the flu because more people have the flu Corona is only just getting started|0 Dr John Campbell I could not thank that man enough|0 Keeping this balance is difficult overall we are all in favour of light moderation but some moderation does need to happen|1 WellThey were at 300 deaths a week before this weekAt the first day of 300 they were up to 1500 deaths in a week 7 days following 300weekWhich means we are probably going to be somewhere around 7500 deaths in the current week although it could be less as well given trend past few days but I would think definitely 3K|1 Yeah Im not terrible for a layperson at interpreting this stuff but this is beyond me|1 Holy shit yes|0 I have no faith in SE Asia not even Singapore Even now the government is trying to play down the situation no real measures other than recommendations are very happy to accept medical visitors and has not closed borders to neighbouring countries We have so many people bringing in the disease from Indonesia Malaysia and the Philippines|1 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Dont tell me what to think He was hoarding Even a large family didnt need that much meat Hoarding is a real problem at present BTW you just judged me|0 Tried convincing my sister to wear her mask for the 6th time today got yelled at again She comes home and never covers her mouth when she coughs yesterday I had a fever and difficulty breathing|1 I once thought I had mono for an entire year turned out I was just really bored|0 You or employee health should discuss this with your local public health to do the risk assessment|0 Well there goes the celebrity yall asked for How long till everyone takes it seriously now|1 What are you missing|0 Yes because as we see Tedros we strongly argue against travel bans because nothing to worry about Adhanom is not struggling at all hes thriving at this position Were all so much better for his timely guidance and strategy|1 I did this and I felt so much better after|1 So as soon as this blows over Got it Hope some of us are still left|1 They are only in those positions because they are lapdog bootlickers This fight goes UP not at the irrelevant firewall of middle management We are ALL going to be desperate Do not divide and be conquered by the VERY FEW on top that instigate this gross machine to continue It is the HEAD that needs to roll|0 I would like to see the source also The NYTimes released a podcast 2 days ago explaining smoking being a contributer to death Stating 50 of Chinese men smoke And also using that as a reason for 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RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 Packed my shit and drove|0 About 30 years ago I saw a TV news item about Japanese cabbies who had a device in their cabs to momentarily accept paper bills heat them to a high temperature probably a hot roller and then spit them out rapidly Killed everything bacteria viruses fungi|0 Could be The problem thats really concerning is that quarantine may where people are catching this stuffThey put you in close proximity with other people who are likely to have the virus and this is what happens|0 Okay what I mean that can be shut downAll mortgagesrentsgaswater payments Just Everyones Thats easy People still make some money and some businesses lose out But if its done and enacted correctly Everyone keeps their jobs and everyone keeps their homes But it requires the government to actually do the appropriate measures Its very easy to do and I explain it in my videos But Im pretty sure its very possible|1 They will find excuses to push the blame on others when this turns out to be a disaster|0 Why do you have to throw insults|0 Its sad that something so serious and deadly not just healthwise but economically catastrophic is being treating as a laughing stock by a country thats supposed to be a leader to world Weve fallen so far smh|0 Genepool purifying itself well come out a stronger species after the weak and idiots are purged by nature|1 Tell her to book a high speed rail ticket or plane to Shenzhen ASAP or direct to Hongkong if that is still available Shenzhen is the only land crossing in China to a separate jurisdiction that isnt the hinterland of bumfuck nowhere and that land border crossing is unlikely to be sealed soonAlthough being stuck in HK could be a considerable drain on finances if your daughter was only budgeting for mainland China government and public health resources are much more accessible to English speaking foreigners and US consulate services are far more well equipped in Hongkong|1 Its on purpose Theyre letting it happen just like 911|1 Two weeks is a sufficient start because it actually gets you three to four weeks due to spring break Then reevaluate and extend|1 Yes this info may be worth collecting just to predict how the virus spreads|1 Why do people keep ignoring the hospitalization rate|0 One dog got it and hes fine|1 My god|1 Hi Italian here I really like seeing all this people caring about us maybe Reddit is a bit better than what I thought initiallyThank you everyone for your support|1 Minor counterexamplesSmallpox Alastrim aka variola minor actually became dominant form of smallpox in North America and the Commonwealth countries starting from earliest 20th century Ended up being longestlasting smallpox strain before we scienced the disease out of existence had a 12 death rate Its actually now thought mass vaccination and quarantine campaigns actually put significant evolutionary pressure for smallpox to become a less severe diseasePolio Is mostly responsible for morbidity more than mortality has come tantalizingly close to being scienced out of existence in the same way smallpox has been the only remaining spots where polio actually circulates in the wild are western Pakistan parts of Afghanistan and parts of Nigeriaall areas where you have some extremist Wahhabist groups with a real antivax streakHIV Actually seems to have become a less fulminant disease in the past 70 years versus when it first got into some populations in the late 50smuch less when it first jumped species The issue is breaks in skin and transmittal by blood and bodily fluidsits actually also remarkably easy to get HIV from heterosexual sex the dominant form of transmission in subSaharan Africa and even easier to get it from sharing dirty needles and getting chimp blood in cuts from butchering some bushmeat Is no longer QUITE as deadly with the advent of HAART therapyMalaria Depends significantly on the type of malaria Ill certainly grant you this with falciparium malaria and requires mosquito bites and the mosquitoes that carry malaria tend to be native to warmer regions of the world most evolutionary pressure on malaria so far has been with antimalarialsand with humans evolving certain traits in malarious regions like oh the carrier states for both thalassemia and sickle cell disease both of which seem to be protective against malaria We should see some interesting approaches in future of both malaria vaccination in humans and malaria prevention in mosquitoes meanwhile the sole registered use that remains for bad old DDTis mosquito control for malaria and literal draining of swamps actually seems to have done a lot for wiping out malaria transmission in the USMeasles Im actually really really shocked you DIDNT mention this one Started out as an extremely severe disease when it evolved from rinderpest via a species jump with something like a milder Ebola death rate of around 60 butdespite being literally the most infectious disease ever recorded such that one has to ACTIVELY work to not get itget your damn shots people its ONLY at a 1520 death rate nowand at least until the recent trends of fundamentalists not getting their shots because religious reasons or urban legends about Baby SlurryTeh AutismInfertility Gooetc and the recent trend of Karens ALSO not getting their kids their shots because of the same urban legends actually had been successfully wiped out from the US and a number of other countriesWhen Andrew Wakefield shuffles off the mortal coil I humbly suggest that the University of Oxford or some other wellmeaning promedicalscience British group erect the Wakefield Memorial Urinals over his grave so as to prevent the local water table from being contaminated by the crowds of medical professionals waiting to piss on his graveSyphilis surprised you didnt mention this either as it was the Big Bad STD before HIV Crossed over to European populations circa 1500 or so used to be a very severe fulminant yawslike illness that typically resulted in death within 3 years via massive amounts of gumma formation and tissue destruction By the time it killed Al Capone who managed to get it and live with it JUST before penicillin was found to be an effective treatment that had stretched to at least ten to twenty years it took for syphilis to kill you effectively the Renaissanceera cases seem to have gone almost immediately into tertiary syphilis Easy to catch if you didnt use protection and was the feared STD of its time becausemuch like untreated HIVit was inevitably fatalEbola yes seriously Initial outbreaks in Zaire now the DRC had a 90 fatality rate even with treatment more recent outbreaks and serovars seem to have gone down to around 60 and with the largest of the recent Ebola outbreaks possibly with a fatality rate as low as 40httpsenwikipediaorgwikiWesternAfricanEbolavirusepidemic About as easy to catch as HIV pretty much youve got to be swapping blood or bodily fluids and yes it is very possible to get Ebola from sexrear entry or otherwiseupwards of six months after ones partner has recoveredInfluenza yup Spreads like crazy FAR easier to catch than HIV is kills around 12 of people who catch it a year in bad flu seasons with an H1N1 bugbut H1N1 bugs used to be a lot worse as all of them in humans and in pigs evolved from the big monstergrandfather of all H1N1 flusthe infamous Spanish Flu which actually probably started either in Kansas or China from keeping pigs and chickensducks together which had a lovely variolamajoresque death toll of around 20This is why generally public health agencies stamp out any novel avian flus like H5N1 where they can this is also why in general biosafety rules in the Western world dont allow chickens to clean up after the pigsAnd yes as amazing as it soundsus humans via public health measures actually DO put evolutionary pressure on a virus Quarantines and obvious symptoms and well killing the host before they can pass it onthose do tend to put some pressure on milder viruses that can last longer in a hostCOVID19 of note is actually a sort of calmer friendlier SARS in that way in that it doesnt have as high a rate of throwing people into severe pneumonia and often manifestswellas a bad chest cold not unlike a fair number of common cold coronaviruses Which means it spreads more and has an opportunity to infect a lot more people versus SARS or MERS Even the stuff about presymptomatic transmission is part of this evolutionary pressureits better for the virus anyways if it can cause JUST enough symptoms like a cough or a sneeze to spread but not make someone so sick that theyre going to run to the doctor and crawl in bed for the next two weeks|0 Angry and scared|0 Look at South Korea Theres probably a few thousand cases and only a handful of deaths Idk man if it was closer to SARS there would be more deaths|0 Even the discoverer of SARS says that it is showing efficacy right nowIm aware of Dr Zheng He is the one who went against CCP protocol to treat SARS with steroids instead of antibiotics Made the CFR go down from 50 to 16 However in a Chinese state articlehttpwwwchinaorgcnchina20200219content75720773htm he is quoted as touting the effectiveness of TCM against Covid19I should add Im not trying to be argumentative I hope this works and works WELL since its so cheap and theres so much of it already out there I really hope that this is what stops this thing until we get a vaccine I am just trying to be realistic and temper my expectations|1 Stop it with your conspiracy hate monger about China|0 I saw that Great news I may be a multigenerational American but my name is Irish as hell Proud to be Irish today and everyday|0 They fired all but two handlers who feedcare for the big cats tigers and lions at the Mirage in Las Vegas|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response Please contact us if we made a mistake|0 Currently sitting in class at the biggest university in the state just 025 mi from where the initial patient is being held haha fuck|0 They were in the hospital for the first 8 months obviously not at home right awayIm sorry if it came across like thatThey just turned 12 actually and are off the vent and decannulated But absolutely they were discharged to home and I was the nurse bringing them there Looking back I honestly cant believe that was able to happen with that literally being my first job out of school and no training frankly its terrifying to me But I have since learned most homecare agencies dont give a damn they just want a warm body so they can keep a case|1 It was clearly implied|1 Dont have links but and Im saying this as a bleedingheart liberal hes not really that backwards compared to some others in the GOP Its mainly the standard abortion stuff from a moderate republican In his two years hes tried to figure out our educational funding purchased new state parks and is enacting or already has a redflag gun law If we get through this Im voting for him for a second term and would consider him for President I can bicker about minor policy differences with an elected representative but its his competence that Im impressed with Its damn refreshing|0 It will take a lot more than Coronavirus to unseat the USD as the safety currency especially since the other big safety currency is JPY and HKD but thats practically fungible with USD|1 Germany is also wrong All 16 cured but thats how statistics are made|0 You dont actually know my job And theres an excellent chance you couldnt do it|1 Do you have a spare room like a break room or something Would it be impossible to let the women bring their kids in to work with them The kids will mostly be doing school work or if not video games likely if the schools are cancelled It would keep your employees coming in and your business running Im not talking out my ass here Im having work done on my house soon and if their kids are home from school and have no childcare Im gonna let the contractors bring them over Im not offering free babysitting but I can set up a space and wifi for them to do school stuff My dad used to bring me to jobs with him when I was little like ages 48 when he couldnt get childcare hed give me a coloring book and snacks|0 Youre right but given all the other things that are happening right now I think its safe to assume itIf he wanted from Wuhan that would mean hes a secondary infection which is worse|0 If they cant pay me more than 200 for a three month old game Yeah Im not surprised theyre pulling this shit|0 Well verify it then He said the WHO dont want to make any travel banslook up if its true or notits not exactly rocket scienceYes if Trump says the sky is blue then look it up if its true or not If its true then its true it doesnt matter if Trump said it or whoever said it Facts are Factstheyre independent of the people that state them|1 I think we all have the right to be upset by now|0 Im not trying to be a jerk but take a step back You got a manicure during a potential pandemic It doesnt matter how many times the person doing your nails washed their hands If they were shedding your chance if infection is probably close to 100 after spending that much time in such close proximity to them Possibly also the customer and manicurist in the next chair if the chairs are close to one anotherPersonally Im not even going to the barber while this is going on and I desperately want a haircut with every fiber of my being right now |0 Exactly This is what creeping censorshippolitical correctnessnanny state did to us Even if any level of government wanted to publish information I am certain they would have to get the blessing of all the other levels as well as the WHO and UN We have to accept that we will be treated like 5 year old children|1 Dead Great We have a procedure for that|0 Thanks I dont mind the negative comments because I sort of expect a level of trolling and callousness on an anonymous message board My message still stands though and what I ask is completely valid and easy to implement Hope your dad stays healthy too|1 Germany said Be prepared for a pandemic the situation got out of controlWho said that Theres like 10 infected people The situation is very very far from out of control Trains are still operating normally with zero restrictions Also the reason why people say its a pandemic is because it is Pandemic just means disease outbreak thats over national borders Thats it|1 The quarantines are to PREVENT tens of thousands of deathsYou dont just start to implement harsh restrictions when the virus is out of control and infecting millions You do it when theres thousands of cases and you want to prevent hundreds of thousands of cases Notice that other countries are beginning to go into lockdown mode as well with just dozens of cases|1 They get overthrown every time they try to move off the USD standard and into something better for their country like gold|1 so you have no answer lmao|1 Dont know if this is completely true but it feels the mass panic by the public happened on Wednesday when the NBA closed down something the picnic cates about and is at a similar status as celebrities|0 Same here and my benefits havent kicked in so I cant use any sick leave or vacation days or PTO Its barely minimum wage but I need the money I even have the resources to work at home but youre only allowed to telework if youre suffering from covid or been exposed to someone that is carrying the virus I should just show up tomorrow fake coughing and dry heaving|0 True but its a great way to spread it|1 If the value of R0 is as high in other countries our results suggest that active and strong populationwide social distancing efforts such as closing down transportation system schools discouraging travel etc might be needed to reduce the overall contacts to contain the spread of the virus |1 It is when you have business leaders and bankers screaming at you that youll financially ruin them and theyll never fund you again|0 Can we please have a timelapse of Theresa Tams commentsquotes over these weeks just so that we can clearly see how the messaging evolveschanges|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I am in Ottawa and its like there is not even a VirusNo one talking about it and no one getting ready for it|1 Makes me worry that Wuhan is likely worse than even doubling the public numbers|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpswwwcnbccom20200316millionsofamericanscouldlosetheirjobsinacoronavirusrecessionhtmlsourcetwitter7CmainI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 I have a feeling theres gonna be a lot of divorces after this thing is over|1 Are you fucking kidding me with this clickbait|1 Its not going to be 0006 but some countries are showing that with proper testing care and proactive actions you can control the growth rate and see a decrease in overall new casesEven from a we are all going to get infected standpoint it is far smarter and far more humane to have infections occur at a slower rate to a ensure hospitals are not overwhelmed and b allow time for more support systems to be in place as well as more treatment developmentOr will we be idiotic deniars take too long to react properly and join the likes of Italy or EnglandDo the math Take the US population much less the world population determine a percent of the total population that will get infected and then figure out how many people die with each increase in the mortality rateDo all those people die now at a higher mortality rate overwhelming all services or do we have a lower rate of mortality over a longer period one the system can handle or one that benefits from more treatments being developed|1 The economic health of a country is inextricably ties to its overall well being and the health of the economy and its people should both be considered in any type of comprehensive response plan It is not as though its that meme where there are two separate buttons one labeled health and one labeled economy that must be chosen between It isnt a zero sum game|1 It saves lives because if you can slow the spread of the virus in the community then the hospitals done become overrun and theyre not choosing who to let die Im sorry that you dont have anyone you want to protect but I have several So Ill be supporting anything that lets them stay inside and minimize their risk as much as oosisnle|0 I know youre one of many but just dropping in to say thanks Ive seen too many of my peers going out and being reckless and trying to make me feel bad about not tagging along The more we share a stayin mindset hopefully the quicker we can all go back to regular life|1 lmao get fucked we dont give a shit unless its immediately filling our pockets this whole Corona thing is super raw material we could never make up on our own cant pay to make big wall go away tough some mad fuckers already payed up ahaha and that means we already made enough to not give a fuck about you|1 You know the British wartime economy for world war 2 went on for 20 30 years well into the fifties and 60s I dont think you can compare People ww2 survived for many years by growing their own food and surviving It was not a time of wealth people were extremely poor and a generation grew under that Maybe here you have extreme pressures but I would not compare to the suffering of victims of war|0 Thats funny considering the people telling them to get permission first are conservatives who typically are very outspoken about the first amendment Smh the hypocrisy is disgusting|0 Heyo Bill How long do you foresee this going until we can start to live our normal day to day life again Do you think a national shutdown will be necessary I was running numbers this morning and it looks like this is just the beginning for us in America|1 Haha I expect the onslaught I had this conversation with a friend just last night We both agreed that our views would not change even if these things were happening right on our own doorstep We can all push our own opinions on what people should or shouldnt do but I would rather people take action based on standards and science that we now have access to science that did not exist when these cultures started Its like smoking I dont really blame all the older generation of people who got caught up in smoking when they were younger but I do think its great that smoking is declining in my own country now due to education and campaigns showing just how lethal they are|1 Couldnt agree more great post|0 We need to find out the cruise ship transmission rate of a disease with known base transmission rate before we can extrapolate the true transmission rate of coronavirus Cruise ships are known to transmit disease very quickly|1 The idiot local authorities didnt want to be the bearer of bad news and Xi lost his shit about the cover up I remember him going all metal about it saying something like to those who choose to cover this up your name will for eternity be nailed on the pillar of shame I dont like the CCP and never will but they have handled the virus so much better than the US its not even funny|0 Please post them|1 And this is why we cant have nice things|0 X number of tests per day priority for caretakers being tested medical bills covered for healthcare workers for starters Im assuming if they ask those nurses in Washington and California theyd have no shortage of ideas|0 But the beautiful tests you are saying thats not enough already|1 Freedom of Speech doesnt mean youre safe from criticismFreedom of speech means you can express extreme asocial opinions and not be censoredprosecuted by the government But the court of public opinion has free reign to call you out or support you condemn or save you etcFreedom of speech doesnt mean there are no consequences to what you say|1 Because Corona virus fucked up his lungs first|0 Unless Russias accusing the US of starting this is actually that Russia created this created a vaccine dispensed the vaccine to whomever they selected would they give it to Trump and then spread the virus|1 You know those operator licenses you see posted at bars and restaurants If you violate the order you will most likely get those yanked|0 Boston Because it sounds like Boston|1 Given the huge bottleneck and barriers in testingdiagnosis how accurate do you think the statistics are surrounding coronavirus in the US Many with mild symptoms are not being tested many asymptomatic carriers obviously are not tested and many who were sick earlier without proper contact risk thresholds first it was direct travel from China now Italy and in our state Biogen Additionally if only the severe cases are being testedconfirmed wouldnt this bias the apparent fatality rate and severityIt appears we are in an exponential phase of growth but is that a reflection of our delayed testing selective testing criteria and limited throughput capacity|0 The people making this horrible calls arent the front line healthcare workers Administration at my hospital is now working from the safety of their home making way more money than me while they tell us so sorry we dont have masks I guess youll have to reuse them if you can find them Im pissed I want them in the trenches with us they cant do nursing tasks but they can answer call bells turn people change people etc And if I see one more Fing family steal our masks or gloves I may snap|0 New Hampshire is ballin The motto is live free or die They have no sales tax and its a beautiful state They also have some of the most lax firearm laws in the country but somehow is one of the safest states to live in terms of firearm violence|0 I didnt buy a thousand dollars in masks and canned peaches cause I thought we werent fucked|1 Also and I know that everyone hates banks but how do banks stay viable Just freeze time for two months How are Italys banks connected to the rest of the world Will other banks still loan to themThat said these are probably measures that need to be taken Most people cant just stay home for two months|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Just burn it down alreadyJk poor people must be terrifying|0 If only they would call out the head of Health Canada Patty Haijdu Patty who graduated university with a bachelor or arts has been more concerned about the implied racism that would come with travel restrictions and busy doing photoops in China town telling everyone to eat local than she has been about COVID19Edit hot damn My first silver Thanks stranger How do I make it colloidal|0 But no other country is doing that but the US Would you rather have the option or not having an option at all Dont be too greedy|1 Imagine stuff going on like this in Kansas City Denver Spokane etc Wonder if well have to experience this in the USA Wonder if the measures theyre taking are saving American lives Like me Heart goes out to everyone over there|1 I feel safe because Im keeping my ass home Every person in the US should assume theyre infected and screw these stupid tests They should only test medical personnel public testing is a waste of time and resources it could be spent to help people prepare so they dont go making unnecessary trips outsideI mean seriously drive thru testing More like drive thru infecting This just puts more people on the road The testing is not a cure it probably has a huge margin of error Besides you could get tested it comes back negative and you bump into someone thats infected 30 minutes later And since you know youre negative you go about inadvertently infecting every one around you|0 I think its more a case of being unable to afford NOT to go for most people I know in the USA People here would LOVE the protections for workers sick time and vacation benefits of other nationsNo one wants to go to work sick I dont even want to go when Im well most of the time|1 When Once 60 of people are already sick and cant go to work anyway How useful Were still in its just the flu and gollygee we can test 2500 people now mode Its fucking insulting|0 Hope that this is the case prepare as this is not the case|1 I read body fluids can spread it as in urine spit feces mucus etc You can google how the soles of your shoes might pickup diseases and you spread it around your home In the West people arent as used to epidemics like SARS that this coronavirus is family of People tend to have mudrooms for organization and reduce dirt but keeping your shoes away from indoor living spaces is also hygiene related and apparently cuts down on disease|0 teehee bezos bad upvotes to the left|0 Too bad Corona does not target those out of touch with reality|0 I am sorry It was a quick plot I agree it is visually awful|0 In Volusia Walmart cancelled my pickup order this am |0 Not to be pedantic but its about rate of exposureYour chances of being around someone with a high viral load in the general public are much lower than those of the doctor whos treating the sick person less than 3 ft away Thats when the fancy mask mattersEdit as for why more explanation was not given scientific literacy was a huge challenge BEFORE this mess Many do not even truly know what a virus is|0 Pneumonia killed my brothers fiance in 2009 She was misdiagnosed as having swine flu no swab or anything done the doctor went on symptoms When resting at home for a week didnt help she went to AE where they realised her oxygen levels were fucked and sent her straight to intensive care She died there in an induced coma 2 weeks later She was only 30 My brother was 28 and had a complete mental break afterwards|0 The US is doomed Just went out to buy supplies to make masks cause there are none available and was sandwiched between 2 boomers in line who couldnt stop complaining about the panic everyone was in that its no big deal and everything is crazy overblown One claimed SARS killed more people and no one overacted I flat out told her thats not true and was just ignored This is going to be so bad|0 Federally Funded Tests Conducted by US Scientists Indicate Coronavirus Can Survive in the Air Federally funded tests conducted by scientists from several major institutions indicated that the novel form of coronavirus behind a worldwide outbreak can survive in the air for several hours A study awaiting peer review from scientists at Princeton University the University of CaliforniaLos Angeles and the National Institutes of Health NIH posted online Wednesday indicated that the COVID19 virus could remain viable in the air up to 3 hours post aerosolization while remaining alive on plastic and other surfaces for up to three days Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV19 is plausible as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for 42 multiple hours and on surfaces up to days reads the studys abstract httpsthehillcompolicyhealthcare487110testsindicatecoronaviruscansurviveintheairhttpsthehillcompolicyhealthcare487110testsindicatecoronaviruscansurviveintheair|1 Thats not very smart|0 The number of newly diagnosed patients with new coronary pneumonia in Taiwan has increased to 18 and the first cases have no obvious symptoms Xinhua News Agency 20200210 053057 The Taiwan Epidemic Epidemic Command Center held a press conference on the 9th to announce that Taiwan has added a new confirmed case of new coronavirus pneumonia and the total number of patients has now increased to 18 This is the first case in Taiwan that has no obvious symptoms but high levels of virus in the body The person in charge of the Taiwan Epidemic Epidemic Command Center said the new case was the youngest son of a couple who had recently been diagnosed with the new coronavirus pneumonia The family of four transferred from Hong Kong to Italy for travel on January 22 and returned to Taiwan from Hong Kong on February 1 First the husband was notified of fever and pneumonia and the wife was notified for the cold symptoms The couple was diagnosed on February 6 and the eldest son was diagnosed on the 8th During the epidemic investigation the epidemic prevention officers found that although the youngest son had no symptoms because the three family members of his companion had been diagnosed one after another it was determined that they might be exposed to the same source of infection Therefore even if the inspection conditions were not met the epidemic prevention officers still took the initiative to conduct inspections The diagnosis of new coronavirus is positive and the amount of virus in the body is quite high It may be just that no symptoms have appeared and whether it is infectious is unknown The person in charge of the epidemic command center said that because the family of four was free walking and there were no other close contacts there were currently 78 people in a family of four contacts According to current regulations close contacts of confirmed cases will be quarantined at home for 14 days Once fever upper respiratory tract and other symptoms occur they will be sent to the doctor for quarantine notification However the first case of asymptomatic infection in Taiwan occurred and the amount of virus in the body was found to be comparable Therefore the consideration of expanding the scope of collection and inspection may lead to a rapid increase in the number of confirmed cases At present the expert meeting of the health authorities of the Taiwan authorities is discussing In the future as long as the close contacts of confirmed cases are to be examined they will no longer be checked for symptoms The person in charge of the epidemic command center said that there are currently 18 confirmed cases in Taiwan of which the first has been released from quarantine In other cases the vital signs were comprehensive and stable no oxygen was used in the hospital breathing was normal and they were still in hospital isolation At present there are 6 people who were negative in the latest collection and hope to recover gradually Xinhua News Agency Cha Wenhua Wu Jihai|1 Bolsonaro tested positive I believe There was a headline|1 Huh Weird|0 uTheLab420 wrote Even in the US Yeah Go home youre brain dead|0 No I think we should but no we wont|0 Thanks So as of Jan 8 the results were still considered preliminaryAlso sad to see they predicted it would not lead to a big epidemic|0 And religiousness is declining in western countries in younger people Education works but it just takes time especially cause a lot of people are stubborn and dont like to change their ways Younger people are becoming less and less religious as the years go on and its because theyre taught more science in schools now and not a bunch of religious shit As more and more old people die well see the percentage of people unaffiliated with religion rising The world is pretty much built on religion at the moment and it takes time to reverse that We can see the effects of that reversal already though through things like legal abortions gay marriage weed legalisation etc|0 true it would not be bad news for predicted deaths it WOULD be bad news for the estimated number of idiots in our government media and naive public|1 Corona is the Top story for days now Headlines from the state news Homepage Tagesschaude from top to bottom 3 more Corona Cases in Bavaria EU plans to evacuate Euopeans from Wuhan Interview A pandemic is possible Then other news like Trumps Israel plan and stuff|1 In other words No tests for everyone anytime soon|0 Thats not exactly very scientific of you though There are valid arguments for why universal healthcare reduces the spread of diseases Do you have any argument for a privatized system that isnt just circumstantial evidenceedit furthermore we shouldnt come to conclusions about anything at the moment since we are just getting started Lets talk about this in 3 months and compare private vs public healthcare|0 This is from the frontlines in Italyhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchv9mrPHOnkVE17 days ago they had 2 fatalities Yesterday 631 fatalities more than a A380 jet|0 After the news came out of how incompetent Japans quarantine is i bet each one of them regrets their decision to stay on that ship|0 This dont come easily it involves active testing the determination to lockdown its epicenter early and the coorperation of its people and they wear masks|1 Perfectly said|1 Yeah Im also immunocompromised and my college is closing down until April 30 and Im really relieved Still gotta do those classes online though haha|1 Im a Georgia Southern student our spring break is next week for us I wouldnt be surprised if the universities decide to close within the next week My professor this morning already mentioned a plan if we are moved to an online class|0 The fact that you can still buy masks in stores is a sign of how bad this is going to get The national stockpiles are not nearly enough and they will be gone very soon The government should have snatched up the national supply of PPE over a month ago to redistribute it to hospitals|0 Oh wow A whole day Thatll stop the spread for sure|1 Dont drink it though its still poison|0 how come one of the most developed countries in the world only has capacity to test in 3 states you gotta be kidding What can one hope from the developing world|1 Hes a loose cannon with a death wish but dammit if he doesnt get results|0 Always been a problem But finally finally this may actually be working in public healths favor If the switch has flipped for most people were no longer dealing in incremental measures If anyone cancels just about anything right now theyre finally beyond reproach It took us too long to get here but no one needs to ask permission to close things any more For that Im glad|0 Its still 10 days away Things are developing so fast it will be cancelled|0 Yeah sure putting people in quarantine to protect themselves and save other peoples lives is a human rights violation but doing nothing and letting them spread disease is not This sort of doublestandard towards China is insane|0 Good less propoganda|1 How many workers are being laid off because of mass quarantineHow many businesses will need a bail out because of mass quarantineHow soon before supply chain interruptions mean even basic items are no longer availableWe are going to reach a tipping point where its no longer advantageous for most people to quarantine Viruses become less lethal upon mutation due to randomness and selective pressure The most vulnerable should be quarantining|0 Those oxygen masks only work for a limited time They are also nowhere near equivalent to a ventilator|0 Meanwhile in Japan there have been two major marathons recently in Tokyo and Nagoya used to select the Olympic teams Both banned all but the elite runners in order to prevent spread of the virus I was scheduled to run in the Nagoya one today and was initially furious they didnt refund our fees hah but clearly the organizers made the correct callI think they will be feeling the after effects of the LA marathon in 2 weeks time|0 exactly a lot of viruses around him high stress not sleeping enough working lot of hours imagine working like that as 67 year old Of course body will shut down|0 Some of the epidemiological models Ive seen say that the number of infected in Wuhan and the surrounding areas has actually exceeded 1 million by now You can safely take whatever number of infected is being published and multiply it by about 20 or 30 times to arrive at something closer to the true figure The main difference between SARSCoV2 and SARSCoV is that this new virus binds to human cells far far more easily Like about 20 times more easily than SARS COVID19 is quite literally a form of SARS It causes what is basically the same disease as SARS except it spreads faster Way faster Alarmingly fast|1 I can go days without it with a worry or feeling anything But I only drink one cup a day in the morningAKA not an addiction If you were addicted then you would have withdrawal symptoms if you quit|1 Wow Thats crazy But good to keep the flow of things I worry though about drivers falling asleep Its tough driving that many hours|1 Yes I think denialists want to discredit reasonable speculation about the potential disaster posed by this pandemic by cherry picking examples of crackpot posts Reddit was never spreading misinformation anymore than official sources that claimed this was just another flu|0 Even in Shanghai pollution went up to 180 on Sunday 18 times the recommended WHO limit even before the official start of work|1 Im in Germany and my state is currently deciding wheter to close all schools etcSo my math teacher is in quarantine 30 teachers were not at school yesterday and yet the only action my school with over 1600 students has taken is to cancel the parent meetings|0 Its the difference between 06 MR and 5 Its still multitudes deadlier than the flu but not as bad as it appears to be Still that also doesnt take into affect deaths that were not tested A lot of these people have underlying conditions that are being misdiagnosed The 69yearold that died in NJ suffered a heart attack Luckily they tested him a few days before Tested Saturday Confirmed Tuesday Died Wednesday|0 NO U|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please earn some karma after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 I was in Costco yesterday and I overheard a couple arguing about this He was mocking her for being concerned She was defending herself by saying it doesnt hurt anything to err on the side of cautionThey were really angry with each other|0 Any medical professional such as your GP can overrule 111 and request you a test If you are seriously concerned and 111 are not helping request to speak to a doctoron the line failing that call your GP but do not go there Im sorry if I have made it sound like its easy to get a test but where my wife works it is easy to get a test if you exhibit the symptoms and they deem you to be at risk|1 I blame the Ying Yang Twins Thanks for the correction|1 How is a banana supposed to help|1 YES I think many people are missing this While it still isnt ideal its better than the headline makes you believe|0 Paying for the quarantine is really cheap there Much cheaper than a ER visit in the us And most of the holiday destinations have already shut the doors or filled with patients|1 Hunan Oh no Thats a red zone isnt it Are they under quarantine as well Im so sorry I hope they are safe and healthy|1 If he had won in 2012 Trump never wouldve become president Im a third party guy but Ive always wondered if Democrats would take the trade off Only four years of Obama but zero years of Donald Trump|1 Ive been wondering something about this are these numbers like actual numbers or are they of populationLike Italy has 280 million less people than the US So how does that play into things I assume that on the early ends of things it means less of people get sick but as exponential growth takes over we end up with more sick due to how spreadable this is|0 As someone who does crossfit I think Im in the low risk group|0 Would you be surprised if I have a diagnosis of severe ASPD lmao|1 I cough every now and then just to clear my throat due to allergies Im sure people think Im patient zero sometimes but Im not calling in sick because I have the same phlegm issues I always do|1 You are very right Her s a post from someone in my town who has all of the symptoms of covid19 and just returned from Seattle where there was also community spread and the CDC and local hospitals have turned her away or told her to go to the emergency room to infect some more people httpswwwredditcomrakroncommentsfgxkv3covid19testingHonestly what the actual fuck|0 Sometimes cynics can be right but to me it reeks a bit too much of conspiracy thinking A general feature of conspiracy theories is that in them the powers that be are evil allknowing and capable On some occasions Im happy to assume the first one to be true but hardly ever any of the other two|0 Thats actually pretty fucking reasonable Nice going guys|1 Dont worry friend this will soon end we just gotta wait ive seen some news i dont know if fake or not that cases of coronavirus in china have lowered since its outbreakThis will soon end do not worry and care for you loved ones beacuse they are still there with you supporting and caring for youStay in a good mood me D|1 Why denied|0 Time will tell if he is right or not We will see in a few months after massive infections across the world on every continent Did Europe do the better job Did the US do the better job Did Japan do the better job Did Russia do the better job Or was it China Every country is doing a different approach in terms of containement communication and testing You have different healthcare systems and capacities We will see who manages this whole thing with more success|1 Sweden as well |1 It was nice knowing you all|1 the sheer amount of just the flu Ive been hearing at work for the last few days has been nauseating honestly|1 better option is just not fly if you have a job that requires travelseriously see if you can get out of not doing somajor airports right now to me would be death traps all those people from all around the world together in one placethe absolute worst place to be in my opinion plus by traveling you risk spreading it to other places more too|0 Give them the same treatment spanish flu patients got and well see how it goes|0 Saw that one comingIt was about damn time They should have done it last week|0 Danke I must have missed it Also Lenny huge fan of your music keep it up|1 14 bill unknown number of undocumented youth that was hidden from government due to 1 child policy|1 What is going on at the Laboratory studying the Virus Is it even operating Too many questions Can someone enlighten me on status of the Laboratory|1 Haha Ive already edited out the close contact data Youre right Honestly it was a bit of trying to provide some positivism at the end but only using publicly known data It was a bit of selfexercise and clearly I applied too much personal bias Im curious what you think on the confirmed case lag specifically actually This is something were very sensitive to in the dataset|1 I expect a lower death rate Firstly because China didnt test at least double or triple or who knows what amount of cases So they had a lot more it is a fact Secondly Italy is advanced in medical care Third people dont catch it in lines waiting to get to a hospital like it was in China I believe thousands were exposed in lines and hallways of Chinese hospitals Then it got out of control|1 If only I hope they do something though my hours and wages just got slashed by half We were already living paycheck to paycheck If anyone has any tips on resources we can use right now that would be amazing|1 I promise to I just wish more people would because you are doing more harm than good when I know your intentions are to do good however misguided Just unsub and go away Thats best for everyone else|1 Good|1 I meant we cant blame everything on China they also fucked it up But lets be honest countries knew about the virus since January but they didnt do anything until late FebruaryIm in Spain we didnt have cases until February Spain and the European Union did next to nothing until it was too late If we would know a month earlier we also wouldnt have done anything Europe didnt want to close borders didnt want to take precautions or even do anything until a few weeks ago|0 Got bless our flyboys|1 Thank you This is exactly what Ive been looking for|1 We like to travel|1 No sh |0 Ah is this true Washington mom hereNot wanting to send them to school starting this week At all|1 For those of you complaining and those of you who are Trump HatersI bet there will not be one person that receives a check who will tear it up or not cash it or even cash it and give it to someone who could use really use itThere are a lot of people on this thread complaining about getting money or Trump bashing but I would be willing to bet that every check they send out will get cashed|0 probably smart to take allergy pills for a while so you will know the difference|1 I have only recently gotten healthy enough to enjoy running and had two upcoming short races in April and May Im really disappointed that the smart thing to do is going to be skip Its likely that theyll be cancelled regardless|1 It is exhausting but Ill admit I felt much better once I had what I need also started a journal of whats going on everyday w closings news cases etc were witnessing history before our eyes|1 Glad they dont have guns I think|1 Yes I think we need to put public health before economic health The next 6 months to a year are going to be rough no matter what we do now and the markets are included in that Doesnt matter whether we close parks or not the virus is going to spread and manufacturing centers of the world are going into indefinite lockdown which means were heading for a major recession as the last two weeks of stock market trends have reflected But we can delay the spread of the disease to such an extent that its manageable for the system Which is what basically every medical authority nationally and worldwide is recommending and working towards Because the alternative is burying our head in the sand and ending up with a much higher death rate than we need to because were forced to deal with the virus all at once and it overwhelms the medical system|0 I am in danger|0 Best of luck mate Ill be thinking of you|1 In my country universities closed and huge amount of people complain that the virus is not even here we have just few cases then why to close it down Well this is the best time to close it down because if the virus got here and universities are open then rip its over|1 Yeah seems odd WTH were they thinking Should have made millions of testing kits Unless they dont give a shit about us the citizens as long as its not their ass on the line|1 Man I am so happy to move to Canada from US dont mind the taxes cos I can see a doctor whenever I feel a little sick or just to get his opinion of my habits instead of waiting for to get really sick before I saw a doctor like I did in US And thats when I had a great insurance plan from my company in states Cant imagine how people see them without insuranceOnce a doc charged 1200 for just looking at my throat of which I paid close to 300 Here I have done x ray ultrasound 3 visits and prescription medicines and have paid like 7 in total which I will get reimbursed from my insurance company|1 to keep the economy from getting hit hardIt doesnt make sense at best it hides the problem for a week or two and the economy gets hit just as hard Or at worst it affects the economy more because cases that could have been quarantined arent There is no scenario where it makes sense to not test to help the economy|0 Its not psychologically feasible yet When this thing hits our healthcare system like a ton of bricks and collapses it new things will become politically possible that are not when its not an unprecedented crisis It would be quite straightforward for the government to tell people whose job is indispensable enough that they need to go to work and who has to work from home or skip work And if the people working in the grocery store wont go itd be possible to distribute emergency rations door to door with the national guard|1 Can you stop spamming this in different threads|0 For reference I live in Michigan My high school had an announcement about preventing COVID19 field trips a trip to Florida band shows plays etc were cancelled All Michigan schools are closed 3162020 until early April I got on the normally packed bus today and it only had 5 kids on it The state governor strongly discourages groups of people over 100Sorry about the formatting Im on mobile|0 42 million over 65 in USA a problem as well as mortality rate is higher as age goes up|0 This could also be due to panic A lot of people could be going to the ER just because theres a heightened awareness about respiratory symptoms and they want to make sure they dont have the corona virus when all they have is a cold The symptoms are so similar to cold and flu and both are still circulating through the population No telling how many of those people actually have corona vs are just scared that they have it and are trying to get testedLots of people who wouldnt normally go to the hospital over a fever and cough probably are now|0 Oh well youre here Hope you understand now how serious this is even for countries like Singapore are strugglingOnly one person was able to spread to 80 somehting cases thats how contiguous it is Finally a country Korea reporting real numbers|1 So it will grow exponentially at first having no barriers to transmission nobody with immunity But at that rate everyone on the planet gets infected and obviously before you get to that point alot of people have already had it and we assume cant get it again So now there is a natural barrier that turns you hockey stick graph into a curve Epidemiologists who have models for this and even have a name for diseases that follow that pattern something curve tell us we should expect to reach that sort of natural end point between 4070 of the population|0 I agreeWe need change they should be broken up and medical monopolies aka patents made illegal |0 Great In more referring to the state and local parks The ones that must people will go to|1 Damn right fuck the director of the WHO giving us a 2nd hand twisted version of the scientists account|0 The idea right now is to stay the fuck home anyway because if you cant get it you cant spread it|0 yo trump finna text us lmao|1 Ive been following this since the beginning China has definitely gone silent Its kind of scary|0 There are junior doctors registrars and consultants I specifically asked about them being able to differentiate between bacterial and viral pneumonia but no one has answered that|0 Still not exponential were in the clear|1 Jesus christ i think reddit will only be pleased when literally every human alive has been tested TEST THEM TEST THEM ALL|1 Maybe because China also tried to blame on US And WHO always on Chinas side|0 Yeah in a 6A high school thats only 3 to 5 deaths nothing to worry about|1 Yeah like I dont get people stocking up on water either What about coronavirus will kill our supply of fresh running water|1 I work in university administration Theres no reason why I shouldnt be working from home We told our supervisor yesterday that we want to be working from home and she was surprised Its just baffling Im getting mad about it|0 There are times for following the rules and times for not Follow your instinct here Even if his grades suffer in the long run you are doing your best to keep him healthy which matters a lot more to his future than the rules make you believe right nowOur schools are still in as of now too and Im also doing a lot of soul searching this weekend so I i now what youre going through|1 1 yes But not all of them2 some supermarkets are insufficient in food Govowned markets are refilling fast others slow But overall food stock is not much of a problem Prices have gone up by about 3050 on average observation from only one market near me but I heard extreme cases of 810 times raise in vegetables extreme But also rare My speculations are 50 on average3 deceased is accurate Infected numbers may be higher due to lack of testing equipments in the early stage but now its about right The videos you see in which people stacked hospitals is imo part because of the fear but not the virus itself And its also flu season many people are suspicious since the resemblance between symptoms of the virus and the common flu|0 As a medical intern Im wondering if were gonna get called in like theyre doing in Italy we have such a low amount of beds in ICUs and medical professionals are already getting sickEdit Medical internRealized my titel is different in my English third language|1 I dont have any answers but Im there with you friend|1 He could save others from the virus but not himself|1 5 in Hertfordshire I think all the 1 to 4 business and breaking down into boroughs is to avoid soon having to put a very large number next to London|0 Asthma too I have a dry asthma cough all winter from the heat drying stuff out I run a humidifier as much as possible but its a constant battle and I have dry cough fits|0 I dont know about other countries but all tracking sites are wrong about Swedens severe casesSweden does not publicize numbers on severe cases there have been a few confirmed ICU cases but there are no actual numbers released We dont even test people not admitted to hospital anymore so yeah So our severe cases are included as mild in statistics|0 The fucker has already said that the coronavirus is the Democrats new hoax We are truly fucked with this President|0 Might as well send it up here to Winniepeg|1 It can live on a surface for nine days in perfect conditions but usually 45 days httpswwwsciencealertcomstudyshowsjusthowlongcoronavirusescanstickaroundonasurfacehttpswwwsciencealertcomstudyshowsjusthowlongcoronavirusescanstickaroundonasurface|1 Thats Ocxams Razor and the solution I hope it true|1 I hate most of you anyway so this doesnt move me|0 Yeah just goto ChinaFlu subreddit Bunch of idiots and reactionary people on there|1 This is want my mom should be listening too not Fox News|1 She can lose her license her staff can lose their license the facility can close down|0 Aw that sounds so cool|1 Will it be as effective as the normal way of creating vaccines|1 I have heard this so many times its eerie Like a blanket people use to protect them from a coming tornado|1 India hasnt reported any new cases for weeks after first 3 imported cases looks like weather is helping|1 Watch the video simulation of the balls as virus It show different social distancingoutbreak options I think it explains it perfectly and its simple httpswwwwashingtonpostcomgraphics2020worldcoronasimulator|1 People are collapsing in Wuhan followed by old footage of it isnt accurate People have beeen or were collapsing might be more accurate The way it has been phrased makes out like the footage was taken todayEdit why did you down vote it is the truth|1 As an introvert with social anxiety this looks so comfy lol|1 not sure if its the same one my friend was referring to yesterday but i found this httpsmpweixinqqcomsDDGl218IqVlUxngCiOSKwseems to be more speculation based now looking at it i have no idea as i dont read any chinese|0 Young people also hate boomers for ruining literally everything and being selfish so they see this as karma if it really doesnt affect the young lol They dont understand theres immunocompromised kids too|0 Ebola primarily affected Africa whereas Covid19 has affected the entire world It pretty much equals out|1 Masks help if youre already infected it keeps your coughing from reaching other peopleHowever if youre uninfected masks wont really help since if just a bit gets on you and you touch something near you eyes or mouth itll spread into you So wash your hands dont touch your faceIm wrong Im just parroting multiple news outlets who I now see were clearly spreading bullshit Read Cyanoblamins replyhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfg1gcpofficialtheprimeministerconfirmedinapressfk2g7gx|0 Someone just having a laugh at your expense unfortunately If you download this insert and BLAST it you find its simply a bat coronavirus sequence ie the exact opposite of what its purported to be novel nonnaturalHave fun and try yourself HerehttpsimgurcomSCD9ygY is my result|1 Kiss that toilet paper stock good bye|1 By early detection theyre getting antivirals to people before they hit the worst stages of the disease which is hopefully keeping the death count lower than itd be otherwise|0 Good luck out there|1 Of concern is the percentage of people that are estimated by most countries to become infected That percentage is as high as 80 infection rate Even with a modest infection rate of 50 that would translate to 35 billion people infected and if the CFR is between 1 to 3 that translates to 35 million to 105 million people dead And thats not factoring in the possibility that this virus can mutate and become a more virulent and transmissive strain which will increase those numbers by an exponential amount |0 Yeah we live 5 miles from ground zero of this cluster Today 3720 Puget Sound has a 16 death rate|0 Did catch you in here Virus does not care Total number is irrelevantPopulation density is |0 Here is a link to a study explaining how cheap masks help prevent spreading virusProfessional and HomeMade Face Masks Reduce Exposure to Respiratory Infections among the General PopulationhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799Please understand that even a cheap homemade mask can help prevent the disease Once you understand it and acknowledge it please share your understanding with others so that we can make a cultural shift toward mask acceptance Thank you|1 Good artists create but great artists steal|1 The CDC is obviously inept Its because it is a government bureaucracy that has had year after year of unfixed error replicating in the organization until the wrong way seems to them the right way to operate And yall want government run socialized medicine This is what socialized medicine would look like The VA is another fine example The red tape is overwhelmingEdited for clarification|0 What if they are mad at the numbers because they are having a hard time figuring out statistics of their biological warfare weaponry juuuust sayyyin Resident evil plot becoming a reality Not saying this as a joke its a strong possibility|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 RemindMe 10 days I bet UK Germany will not be like Italy|0 I am a kindergarten teacher who had traveled and been in contact with infected people who tested positive I am now showing symptoms County of health decided they cannot test me because I do not have shortness of breath difficulty breathing I have all the other symptoms including a 1019 fever which has not gone down in 24 hours My doctor wants me tested My school district wants me tested I would like to be tested so that I can inform the families in my class Many of my students live with or are taken care of by elderly grandparents I have been told by the health department to self quarantine at home and not worry about it|1 What infuriates me so much is that the current administration dismantled the epidemic response team put in place by Obamas administration almost immediately upon taking control They destroyed what was a vital resource in stopping a pandemic like Corvid19 They have also defunded the already underfunded CDC Public health should not be a partisan issue|0 Cant imagine the conspiracies youll will come up with when they show you Amazon ads|1 We in trouble now|0 But its really on us The disaster relief fund is bankrolled by taxpayers So cheers|1 Per virology on mod team The virus has no obvious genetic manipulation feed into other HIV refutations etc and is ostensibly just a wildtype virus related to SARS and another sampled bat progenitor virus If it escaped from a lab it was essentially unchanged from the form in which it was originally isolated in batsintermediate species pangolin So either it was isolated directly from a batpangolin taken to the secure lab and promptly released with no modifications or it came from nature The latter being the entire reason this class of virus has research going on at Wuhan in the first place|0 Lawrence Kansas is taking this super seriously Im so proud of my town Businesses are either shutting down or changing how they do business Deliverycarry out only No one is telling them to do this its all voluntary The vast majority of our local owned businesses have done this Shops are offering free delivery or curbside delivery for books toys etc Its amazing|1 Remdesivir last I checked its still being seen as an effective treatment but nothing recent past day or two has been published|1 Coworker came in today hacking up a lung Come to find out she flew out of Tampa two weeks ago Pray for me Bois if youre fucking sick stay home|0 This should keep those assholes busy|0 You should clearly explain the covid19 case fatality rates vs influenza fatality rates to peopleThese are getting mixed up all the time and people are thinking that 23 of all infected will dieThe number of covid19 infected people is unknown The number of lab confirmed cases who are in hospitals is known and most deaths are knownThis would be the CFR for diagnosed patients which is completely different from CFR for all infected For influenza most numbers are postepidemic estimates with estimated numbers for all infected This would usually be 520 of all population For example 41 million people of 320 million people in US is 128 of all peopleSo basically the most comparable rate for influenza is deaths hospitalizations Thus 16 000 deaths 500000 hospitalizations 32 CFR for hospital admitted influenza patients in the US Per the source httpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenpreliminaryinseasonestimateshtmhttpswwwcdcgovfluaboutburdenpreliminaryinseasonestimateshtmYou can also do a deaths lab confirmed flu cases number for the US Just now there were around 174k lab confirmed influenza cases in the US This will rise to at least 250k before the season is over If there are 16 000 deaths per 250 000 lab confirmed flu cases the CFR for those is 64 If a flu patient is confirmed with a lab test as influenza the CFR is over 6Even these numbers should not be compared without detailed info on patient selection CFR isnt a standardized number which can be compared freely and people should learn that We do not know postepidemic all infected CFR of covid19 yet Ill wager it will be higher than influenza but by how much I have no idea I hope it will be only a tad higher than influenzaTLDR Not all CFRs are the same Most importantly Do not compare all infected post epidemic CFRs to lab confirmed patient CFRs|0 Hes the only smart one in the movie lol|1 Theyre still partying on the beaches in Florida Were fucking done for|1 Arent you a very active bouncy ball |0 This is a cure is worse than the disease scenario|0 Currently a few hundred people infected|0 But does that pay for the 3000 test|0 Yes it does thats a good point|1 Just follow this subreddit I guess maybe follow my personal account but Im a bit shy so its up to you|0 They must be already considering closing or at least preparing for the possibility of needing to close I went to high school in Maryland not in a bad neighborhood either and I remember first hand that they care about student safety up to the point that it keeps them from getting sued|1 What does this mean when youre asymptomatic Your body was strong enough to fight the virus wo needing hospitalization but youre still shedding the virus|1 I am sorry sir Chinese people are not allowedbut i am TaiwaneseSorry sir our news said that you might have Corona|0 You should be good to go now|1 imagine going on holiday then you come back home and 80 of the people are gone|1 The I have nothing to hide normies are out in full force|1 what are you having trouble finding There are dozens if not hundreds of medical articles on the virus now available to the public|0 Calm before the storm|1 Too late internet popo is on your ass and you are now on FBIs most wanted Sucks to be you|0 Woah wait are you saying people are dumb|0 I think the best thing to do is to stay home and monitor Public health lines are overwhelmed Its probably fine if you dont get through right away if youre feeling overall ok I think workplaces are going to have to refine their policies because at this point its impossible to get timely testing due to the status of our system Workers should not need doctors notes to stay home|1 Noted Thanks will change my recipe I hadnt checked WHO I thought that aloe Vera gel was mostly water so Im not sure if that counts or not|1 Thank you brother will do |1 According to the WHO this is a misguided hope|1 Mexico neithersimply put the official plan is to let the bomb to blow in their face and then try to contain it Australian style|1 Ooooh The Stand I watched Contagion yesterday today its The Stand|0 These stores are making so much money just take your sales prices off and sell out of your product pretty much guaranteed Why push it|1 The disturbing thing is the downvotesSo its because the hospital believes that its droplets and not aerosol apparently Iow these people downvoting dont even know why theyre saying what theyre saying They just repeat what those above them tell them How freaking awful|0 Best post on the internet today BatflySorry You were so close to rbeetlejuicing|1 Oddly there is plenty of bar soap leftBuy that if you need soap Soap breaks down the fat that holds that crapvirus together httpswwwtheguardiancomcommentisfree2020mar12sciencesoapkillscoronavirusalcoholbaseddisinfectantshttpswwwtheguardiancomcommentisfree2020mar12sciencesoapkillscoronavirusalcoholbaseddisinfectantsIm not at all concerned about not having a load of hand sanitizers I would be very concerned if I didnt have soapIf I couldnt get liquid soap Id buy bar soap If I couldnt get the kind of bar soap were used to Id go to the hardware store and buy that kind of soap you use to wash your hands when youre a mechanic If I couldnt get that Id use dish liquid If I couldnt get that Id use shampoo Id be sure to get a good hand lotion too because of dryness depending on the soap youre washing your hands withSoap wins over hand sanitizers I understand why people are buying TP to stay at home but I dont understand the hand sanitizer craze unless they are not able to work from home and need to stay at a cubicle at work without going to the restroom to wash their hands|1 Its not that people in Italy France and Spain are incredibly social Socialising is a huge part of society in those countries hence a quarantine or lockdown becomes an issue|1 There will be stories of heroes coming out of places like Wuhan Milan etc I look forward to reading them|1 Yes Its not useless But you would be the only one who wears mask in the middle of the city because media keep saying it that you dont have to wear unless you are infected I seriously dont want to get a bad gaze or in the worst possible case to get stabbed in the public I have asian look as well and yeah I cant imagine how bad it would be|0 Yepin Beijing all my local friends are calling it the Wuhan Virus |1 otherwise why would people be trying to develop vaccines for itPeople have been trying to develop vaccines against HIV for a long long time as well Why dont we have immunity from that Its a coronavirus its unlikely to be that different to other corona viruses Citation needed You cant choose to get yourself infected early on a whim There have been some that doesnt mean that the vast majority of people will be reinfectedAt this point we just dont know Our knowledge is very limited It could very well be like herpes and stay dormant in your body forever Or it could keep mutating so any immunity would be useless With any successive infection your ability to cope would become worse Therefore it would be a silly strategy to want to get infected early without definite information from the scientists|0 Hahaha yup me too Youre definitely not alone My husband is super sick of me analyzing the news and buying cans of food I live in Seattle but have been freaking out since JanuaryAfter the first couple of cases around you prepare to reap that sweet sweet vindication At which point theyll fall in line and start using soapTry not to chew their ear off I think denialism is masking the opposite response we have to fear|1 Yep I work at the airport too Still surprisingly filled with people Not as packed as before but still lots traveling|1 His entire post is about every life matters instead of virus specific related he could literally post this in the car subreddit same context bigger numbersThe car portion was referring to him saying every live matters not that its contagious In my comparison you can also compare shark attacks and lightning simply say if its safer to swim with sharks or walk in a lightning storm you can compare them I did not mention contagious I realize what an exponential curve is and highly doubt this virus will be one regarding deaths I honestly think this will be contagious just not very lethal overallbut in comparison of many other things society allows this virus is not the thing to focus on if your goal is to save lives rant to the governments regarding safer travel it kills way more overall than viruss He is fighting over 200 people saying all lives matterI agree but shouldnt he focus on the 125 millionI just think if thats his point why is he focusing on the 200 when it could be for 125 million as he says every life mattersIm not trying to be a dick to him just pointing out a potential overlookPeople are to sensitive if their belief is challenged people are allowed to disagree without being dicksIm not a heartless prick I just honestly believe everyone is freaking out over a weaker influenza if you dont post on regular flu subreddits I dont understand getting hysterical here|0 My mistake it was the case in Montreal that ride transit|0 In time all things pass When things have become tough I have family members who say Adversity is a good teacher although they say it in Russian Everything works out the way it is suppose too Whatever happens we all must continue on To life Be well|1 Fair Think I made an edit that shes in the house with a 4y old and 3y old and sometimes when these smart little buggers get whiny they resort to baby talk So my wife has to nip that in the butt BFineMD|1 Agreed this sub had me prepared|1 vietnam got a lot of things right im surprised|1 They SUPER promise this time|1 went to the au show it was sick |0 A cold Lol|1 The British guy on the boat David Abel is now in serious condition|0 If everyone gets radiation poisoning well all be protected Some guy at Chernobyl I guess|1 Yep But we fucked it up and had tainted test kits Then ran out of reagents supposedly The WHO kits would have at least let us get a jump on things|0 I think people are being way too optimistic about remote work And I say this as someone who works 100 remotelyI sincerely think the opposite is going to happen People who dont really want to be remote workers are going to do it because many companies like my own just dictate it They dont have proper home offices Going from a phone powerful desktop two giant monitors and being able to meet with people by walking over Now people are working from laptops intended for travel People are sitting in the couch with their work in their lap Its not a great way for most to be productiveWorse Schools are shutting downparents are keeping them homepeople arent going to daycare So now you have ill equipped remote workers many of home are at home with their childrenAgain I work from home 100 and I know I cant be productive when I am watching my child I have a nannybabysitter come on the days when my wife is working Most people wont be able to do that in the short term These will be people trying to juggle remote work without equipment while also attending to regular house and child crapAnda lot of us are going to get sick I bet many new remote workers will want to save their vacation time and figure Im already home I can work while sick Which is only going to make it all much worseI saw a drastic decrease in the amount of emails chat messages and measurable work when we started remote work And the number of people missing meetings skyrocketedIn the past Ive watched my employer cut or remove work from home polices as they got more popular A lot of people cant handle it Letting everyone do it is going to result in very poor performance and many companies will shy away from it in the future|0 Well Nadine Dorries didnt follow it at first|1 Ill bring the baseball team|0 Because we dont track the flu anymore It used to kill millions now we pretty much dont care about it Pneumonia still kills nearly 3 millions a year 800000 children The flu also mutates a lot more than this corona virus apparently does my guess il after the first wave people will be mostly immunized to it|0 No one but trump is extremely shortsighted so he thinks it benefits him|1 My wifes a school bus driver now talks are no school till sept Trudeau said nobody should worry about rent or food EI doesnt pay enough anybody know if EI payments will be higher|0 In a time of world war A military enforced curfew or quarantine would be a harder sell these days|0 As an outsider makes we want to troll their government on we chat|1 Lets not worry Im sure they all have mysterious undiagnosed health conditions that put them at increased risk|1 And that would be an amazing place to start All of these bullshit concerns are just like the debate over gun violence Theres no perfect solution so lets just do nothing People are dying Something is better than nothing|1 Why have I got this feeling the delay phase will be as we are now except with bozza on TV every other day saying we are indeed delaying itdo not worry|1 Luckily we dont all live on cruise ships you cant extrapolate the disease spread from a cruise ship to the rest of society|1 Edge of wonder if where I got the information And they back it up pretty convincingly Cant post it as its considered The C word But easy to search on you tube|1 I keep telling people that our government has literally been taken over by the 1 n they can give 2 fucks if this shit spreads|0 Its a very big country with a lot of people so sometimes its not easy to have a complete ban of something considered not that harmful Same can be said to many things which outsiders may not understandThat being said I expect serious actions afterwards from the government|0 Did you watch ABC interview with secretary Alex Azar Any member on this sub would have had better questions than George Stephanopoulos|1 We own two rent houses One is occupied by a great family always pay the rent on time take good care of the property The second is ALWAYS late weve given up on late fees he has a good job and newer vehicles Guess which one well waive the rent on if necessaryBeing a good tenant BEFORE a crisis will pay off in the long run Note we depend on the rental income and were extremely good landlords|1 Thanks for corrections|1 And they all congregate at the only barrestaurant in town speaking from experience growing up|1 My grandfather was tested by the CDC in Texas negative They let him go home so I think they had to be pretty confident in his negative result in order to do so|0 Not quite what you are after but Im hearing from colleagues that NHS Scotland is now treating any sort of cold flu like symptoms as potential coronavirus As such healthcare workers are using much more PPE when it comes to dealing with patients as well as putting masks and things on patients to try and stop them spreading the disease|0 Even assuming a base of 10 today with an incubation period of 4 days and an R0 of only 18 we should have over 100 cases by the end of the month easily actually over sextuple that number and if you work it out technically 800I cant see how this will be contained unless we shut down all inessential travel and radically adjust our behaviours as a society immediately But few people seem to care even now This month will be pivotalDate Cases R0 18010320201005032020180903202032130320205817032020105210320201892503202034029032020612020420201102060420201984100420203570140420206427180420201156822042020208232604202037481300420206746604052020121440080520202185911205202039346416052020708235200520201274824240520202294683280520204130429|1 Only food shortages I can anticipate would be due to short term panic buying This isnt the Black Death I cant see how society and supply chains will totally collapse Fatalities and serious risk are massively skewed towards the elderly and people with comorbiditiesUnless theres information Im missing I dont know how this public health crisis will stop crops being harvested and truck drivers delivering it|0 There are several possibilities and many outcomes and risks Ideally increased awareness and travel lockdowns will work and this will subside in mid to late Feb but there are many variables and risks around any prediction like that|1 Yup We were brought in to assist the power company in keeping people away from downed lines so that said power company could devote more manpower to getting things repaired|1 As a comparison today in Chile a woman coming from Italy with a fever was tested on the airport and the result returned positive She could have infected many more people without that test|1 I think you missed the part about incurring multiple potentially fatal injections or potentially life long negative health consequences Is your life really that cheap|0 Please stop upvoting this person They are spreading disinformation This makes no sense to have this much of a skew Stop reddit stahp|0 Heard from Iran I gotta put the oil on my b hole Im safe|1 Yes lets waste test kits on someone with zero symptoms while others are in the hospital nearly dying and cant get tested simply because hes the president Excellent logic Wow|1 I knew when China built a hospital in 10 days just for the virus that this was no joke and it was time to get prepared The timelapse video I seen of the hospital was crazy on how it was built I dont just rely on just one source to tell me whats going on Waiting on your government to tell you what to do is crazy to me Just keep in touch with whats really going on by checking several sources|0 Im an idiot Have two left feet when it comes to this type of dance|0 they know whats coming its just matter of time that they are not announcing to general public you better prepare dont wait on govt|1 Yesterday one of the main Italian newspapers published an article about how the coronavirus is ending its course and its almost over well guess again lol|1 Hows do you disinfect your phone This is thing that I really want to know|1 i dont recommend looking at any of my posts except for maybe this one|0 As much as I have no love for the UK government what makes you believe that our response is lesser than that of other governmentsIn 34 years we can all look back and judge the effectiveness of different countries policies but until then its entirely feasible that we are getting this right or at least more right than othersThere are explanations for the lack of severe tactics now and perhaps they will turn out to be foolhardy ones but equally maybe they are correct|0 I know it says that in the article but I cant find anything official that says that to be true|1 Pathetic|0 Block it by disabling Javascript on that website from your google chrome|0 Precisely what the fuck can they do take them to court|0 The comment is now gone but I dont remember it mentioning avoiding other precautions Yes it becomes dangerous when people dont seek other treatment but Im hesitant to presume everybody mentioning herbs advocates such approach|0 Their posts are almost as awesome as Andrew|1 Couples watching porn together Sounds like a cuck to me vibrators fair enough but the pornography industry is modern slavery dont forget that|0 Ive been coming to terms with the reality that my time is limited while this has been going on This is where I am too so when people are so flippant about it I get sad My husband is extremely worried It kills me seeing him follow this and know thats most probably what we are looking at We have prepped and are prepared have stocked up on our meds and will hunker down when it hits no cases so far where I live and hope for the best Im also having more intimate conversations with people and am planning on writing letters for my son on their wedding dayI also have had a few brushes with death and am convinced that if I were a cat I would have 4 lives leftheres hoping|0 Hes the only one Id trust to run things under martial law or a quarantine of major citiesThe cheers for fact based science|1 Incredible strength and resolve|1 Honestly the housing market in my citycountry is so fucked up everyone deserves it Houses are for people to live in not for people to make money|0 And I dont think doctors are actually a reliable source for new general knowledge if they are not trainedspecialized in researching They might be biasedEdit I want to correct myself because what I said can be understood differently than what I intended to mean What I really meant is a doctor or a group of doctors can be biased not because they lie but often because their method of gathering data is flawed the sample size is small or even because of unlucky choosing outliers Thats why a community of many researching groups for questioning defending peering replicating of new scientific experimentsresultsknowledge is important Of course when it comes to choosing between a random reddit account and my doctor Id rather trust the later|1 Quarantines are useless if they arent enforced People will just do whatever they want no matter who gets hurt they dont care|0 This is great why couldnt the usa have done this|1 edited thank you|1 FUCK|0 On the other hand the S type which is evolutionarily older and less aggressive might have increased in relative frequency due to relatively weaker selective pressureThis is good news right|1 I told my parents brothers and best friend My brothers laugh at me so I stocked a bit more in case I need to share with them Hopefully my parents did listen so did my best friend Really worry for her she is about to give birth and her husband is an idiot I hope she doesnt catch anything at the hospital next week|1 MSNBC has it 3 or 4 pages below the fold I suppose super Tuesday or whatever this day is called trumps so to speak Corona|1 Did he get infected on his way home or was he already infected en route|0 On the one hand the countries with few infections should be able to control it On the other hand most of them seem to have about the same dayonday 25 increase that China has|1 Lying to customs could be a lifetime ban|0 how is it that all of us schmucks had the foresight to stock up on masks but the government actors specifically tasked with knowing what the fuck is going on were caught too lateim by no means stockpiling specifically so as to leave some for others including healthcare but i have enough to go out very infrequently for supplies if necessary and to get to hospital responsibly if i get sickI wish we knew more about whether personaluse masks can be reused If I remove the mask and hang outside in the sun for 2 days shouldnt it be clean again not sterile but without active virus to still provide somewhat of a physical barrier against droplets landing on my mouthnose|0 Here let an engineerbiologist break it down for youI think most people arent aware of the risk of systemic healthcare failure due to COVID19 because they simply havent run the numbers yet Lets talk math httpsthreadreaderappcomthread1236095180459003909html|0 Approved|1 If the people chosen have seen a few disease driven apocalyptic films or books in the past and take it semi seriously wed have better results Economy will take a hot but we wont have this stupid nonsense|0 When people dont realise that the Chinese government lies about its data|0 THANK YOU I MESSAGED A MOD ON THIS AND GOT NOTHING glad im not the only one feeling this way|1 It s not even repeat offender Right now its a class 1 fine ie 38e they need a law to get it to 138e for that specific cause The law can take few hours to few days to be voted|1 Yes vitamin E acetate thanks for your explanationIve read several accounts that claimed affected people were using JUUL devices with refilled cartridges to vape THC I dont know why they would have chosen vitamin E acetate as a diluent instead of standard vaping liquid maybe the THC is insoluble In any event it was a very stupid choice|1 It does seem unlikely to be ncov as the medics are not wearing protective gear If 3 kids alll died from coronavirus dont you think they would be suited up like medics in other videos from China|0 Thank you I appreciate it|1 good I MUST have my gummie bears delivered with 2hour shipping|1 This is so important|1 Ohh ok that makes sense Also how long until thats enforced after its announced Im going to be staying at my cousins house for several days to a week If its put in place while Im there will I be able to get home|1 Warning for those who might be anxious the beginning bit in the dark is a joke about toilet paper The rest is very positive funny and informative|1 Right Id assume theyd just kind of disregard it Maybe Im wrong|0 Exactly I think when its all said and done we will find a 10 death rate It will take us months to have significant numbers though|0 I dont want to get into a political discussion but I prefer to see an expert in the field than a prime minister or president like Trump downplaying or pretending to know whats happing I guess he will address the public sometime in the future but giving space to the experts seems reasonable to me and more in tune with what a head of state should do|1 Thank you It help knowing Im not alone in my fear|1 Aw jeez Yea that totally makes senseI was an admin assistant to a doctor who was semiretired He was a cool guy even was the top dog in his field ranked in the top 50 of the most cited people of all times according to google scholar and worked the same amount of hours as he did when he was full time There was nothing that he hated more than the bureaucracy of healthcare He despised them so much with good reason I left my job there because of bullshit from middle managers and its easily the most despicable part of healthcare|1 Companies and governments need to treat this like a war situation with emergency mass manufacturing of test kits ideally a do it at home test kit sent for free every 2 weeks and if you test positive you get an official test and needed PPE personal protective equipment for hospitals companies especially for workers who interact with customers and basically everyone wearing masks and disposable gloves will be the new norm for awhile everyone should have easy access to hand sanitizer and disinfectants everything needed to help patients with severe cases and coronavirus specific treatment facilities separate from the normal hospitals All doctors that can help need to If youre a doctor in a field that is nonessential right now you should be helping with this New jobs with compelling salaries should be made for medical personnel who can help but arent doctors Businesses should try to go online as much as possible Amazon pharmacies WalMart Target etc need to start stocking the stuff people are looking for online again instead of telling them to go to their local physical locations Its a waste of time for people and puts them and others at risk every time they go to these places looking for hand sanitizer not to mention it probably drives the staff nuts have to answer do you have any hand sanitizer in stock every few minutes for hours every day|1 RaTG13 was 96 similar and thats sortof exactly my point RaTG13 was 96 similar and it was randomly generated from the wild SARS is 80 similar as well Why do you think that random mutations couldnt create this it seems like their are examples from the wild that are extremely similar to this disease US labs are also saying theyre getting a an extremely similar sample from Pangolin testing and China said they found a 99 similair virus from a Pangolin sample It seems way way more likely to me that a SARS virus randomly mutated based on the evidence you provided|1 This If he insists on working outside still they need to separate quarters Sleep in the garage Figure out the bathroom issue Make it work But dont come out everyday and wash your hands and pretend its gonna be OK If he gets sick shell most likely get sick|0 Happy cake day|1 If youre serious about gambling on the market going down you do realize you can short the market rightMake some 4 month expiration puts on SPY Should be easy money for you if youre right|1 Im going to try this route one more time tomorrow though I may have asked the wrong questions or talked to the wrong people|0 Hes definitely not wrong Peace does not mean having to tolerate Chinas bullshit for any longer|0 I always did say those kids were gonna kill me|0 The science that justifies his course of action is economicsThe dismal science|0 Your post has been automatically removed In an effort to reduce spam please wait a few days after creating a new account I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirusFOS if you have any questions or concerns|1 Date of that article is 12 days ago which is a damned lifetime with COVID19AFAIK they turned over the data to virologists for study which I think has already generated white papers|0 Yes Usually the day you develop full blown ARDS will be the day you die without ventilators or ECMO No clinical symptoms of ARDS to full blown ARDS usually takes 13 days mostly 1 day|0 Thanks youre keeping up with this thread better than I am I think I made a mistake posting this here its too much|1 Exact same thing I was doing today and just heard theres confirmed cases in my city an hour ago Great until its not for sure|1 I mean the powder is pretty great out there right now |1 Its 75 up till 33k for full time employees and 90 up till 38k for hourly employeesThe company must pay the remainder so the employee will get full payhttpswwwdrdkligetilforstaanyhedenhjaelpepakkepaapladsstatendaekkerstordelaffyringstruedesloenI changed the currency to dollars for you guys|0 Lol My sweet summer child Trump says a lot of things that are lies We have a huge testing deficit because of early screw ups Real testing only began this past weekend httpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovcasesupdatestestinginushtmlLook at the bottom of the page|1 Lets boycott any companies that tries to sue these heroes|1 whats a trustworthy source trump cnn nyt msnbcmath nerds communist chinaso bill gates whos foundation is in the area of the first patient fed hutch same area the nursing home outbreak and the person who ran a simulation predicting this exact scenario of the virus months before doesnt seem odd to you event 201 wuhan military gamesif you watched the whole video and seen some other work he has done youd realize that every single top news story every day is coded with the numbers but hey just a coincidenceconspiracy trust who ever ya want mandatory vaccines and a cashless society cuz money spreads the virus during a stock market crash is coming have fun crawling to your mastersgo to google and type in pandemic bonds maybe that has something to do with whats going on these days btw they mature in july as long as a pandemic isnt declared if it is investors lose millions maybe billions|1 Yeah its smart for sure not arguing with that Im happy with these measures but waiting 2 hours on a queue to get in is so weird seems unrealTheres a delivery service but the first date available is in April now so its a long wait in either way|1 It contains a good wish in addition to appreciation|1 Once it becomes obvious how I dont know as its already obvious to so many of us thats when panic will set in because to them itll be like going from 060 in a flash In an attempt to stave off panic by holding back information the people in power have only assured itMy biggest fear is losing loved ones Nobody is listening to me brushing off my concerns and telling me that I cant let fear rule my life I cant convince them that fear that by self isolating as I have for a week now Im not letting fear rule me Im being pragmatic Ive been able to at least convince my Mom to read the CDC information sheet for older adults and people at risk but who knows if my parents will take it seriouslyThings in this world are scary and taking those things seriously isnt fear mongering Fear of danger has kept our species going putting your head in the sand only makes you an easy target|0 The GOP is too busy shoveling money into the bank accounts of the wealthy and big corporations They dont have time for this virus nonsenseBut wait Dont worry theyre taking care of it Theyll give big business a big bailout airlines too and itll trickle down in the form of face masks and glovesAnd when this is all over the administration will be able to say at least the shareholders survived|1 The fact that the reported dead statistic is outpacing the cured statistic is pretty unnerving esp if the early reported mortality rate is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1535 something doesnt jive or maybe Im not understating something correctly|0 Can we please get some sources that arent sensationalist pop news articles All Ive seen is one or two experts who put 70 as an upper bound in the absolute worst case scenario Im hearing most experts put numbers around 12 of the global population Still an absolutely terrible pandemic that will destroy certain communities but not 5 billion cases|0 Because they can It sounds like this guy has run this model before and if he ever skipped hes going to pay dearly And yes I know exactly what audits are about thank you very much|1 Welcome to dealing with China I did this for many years and had an international chemical distribution company Chinese people do not think about contracts and deadlines the same way we do Things are done as they can be done not any faster not any slower In China a contract is an agreement to what sounds good then It is not as binding as in the Western world Imagine if Westerners had to deal with yeah well I said I would pay you today but there was a flood and I was unable to make it and then not be able to charge interest or fault the other party Those are the pros and cons of the Chinese system The business culture in China is incredibly ancient even Chinese children playing Monopoly start to rapidly develop profit sharing models and other strange rules that most Western children would not think of Because of this operating a business which depends on Chinese manufacturing is obviously subject to several flaws I remember in my own youth waiting for many things I always said I should have been a waiter I would wait for the domestic clients to give me money Then I would wait for the Chinese people to go grab the Western Union Then I would wait for them to give me a tracking number Then I would wait for them to actually ship it Then I would wait for it to actually get here then the waiting would begin again This became easier as I went and started to plan for delays Chinese New Year throws many people off balance So does We just built a new post office and it collapsed I tried to call Chinese vendors in Nanjing and Shanghai out on this particular bullshit before only to do my own research read news articles and see that they were not actually lying Can you imagine in America a disaster hits hurricane and the government says Stay home dont work be safe Your landlord cant charge you and you can do house chores All payments must be delayed That is the system in China That is what they did for this outbreak If other places operated the same way your business might still be going strong Delays happen all the time Being prepared is pushing the responsibility off on a psychic Being able to survive is the duty of your government and fellow citizens |1 I just really dont give a flying fuck I like the people I know and I like the place generally do you honestly think you are going to change my mind Do you honestly think Im going to feel bad Are you ill do you not have a life is it a mental issueWhat is wrong with you|1 Well maybe its warranted bc people in Houston are having parties going to clubs if you live here and were out and about today you would have no idea all the area schools are closed Its wild|1 Omg England is doing a much better job It seems like we dont have kits or not enough but the government dont want to say it We need to ask for help if we need |1 You must live in a different country I have no idea who Harris Teeter is|0 Ah yeah I see now hahahaha should have read through properly before I replied My bad |0 Hes possibly the worst governor in the country|0 Its more of a problem of centralization Too many midlevel and Senior bureaucrats who actually have no personal risk of ruin when they make decisions Theyre focused on efficiency instead of robustness And if they are wrong they can claim its too chaoticThe only way human society has survived to this point is because typically leaders take personal risk for their communitys gain Currently senior and mid level leadership roles are able to put risk on the individual citizens for the leader and bureaucrats gainParadoxically the only way this is fixed at the state and national level is when more of us on the local level get involved in the local level As that puts actual leaders in closer and closer proximety to decisions|0 Actually the bigger problem on Reddit is anyone with an opinion that challenges the narrative risks being removed or banned on this forum|0 Good point hes off the deep end now|1 So Trump can play god and extort everyone seeking help|1 Our parents want to believe they are the strongest and should be protecting and educating us no matter how old we are If we go to them blubbering with fears theyre likely to react by telling us this is no big deal Educate them use facts not fears Quote reputable sources And listen to them if they want to share Let them teach you even if you already know what theyre telling you It will let them feel like they know something and therefore will probably take action according to their own sense of self Dont you do that yourselfMaybe ask them as the intelligent thinking people you know they are to at least consider avoiding crowded places just for a few weeks then buy them some groceries send one or two links from reputable sources containing facts and statistics and check on them just once every day to see how theyre feeling They will welcome concern but reject proselytizing|0 Also the priest in the story is Episcopalian but I guess it doesnt matter to the ignorant|0 The virus wont slow down It didnt in China it didnt in Asia it didnt in Europe Europe first started with mild restrictions no huge events more checks at airports etc But no matter if Italy Spain France or Germany it all boiled down to a lockdown with only supermarkets and pharmacies being open The pattern has been exactly the same in every country The US wont be an exception and the faster social distancing is maximized the flatter the curve will be the less people will die|0 OK but thats THE one mainstream alloverthenews worldwide exampleLet me maybe explain it like this If there is reportedly around 20 complications that require hospitalization with this thing how many of the rest of the 80 are completely fine or have very mild symptoms and how many are leaning closer to the range requiring hospitalization And how many are in between the two comparable to a cold maybe Approaching 10k infected outside china in all age groups and walks of life I would expect there to be various examples of all but the worst progressions of this disease being covered online by private individuals already I mean we live in a world where people watch other people shop for groceries or do their laundry online and endless supply of content feeding that nicheWouldnt you expect a little coverage about a thing thats currently breaking the internet already with tons of people glued to the screen for any piece of new footageThose are important questions I cant find a readily available answer to at the moment The Media mostly makes it sound like you are either close to dying if left to your own devices 20 of cases mostly old or sick people or completely fine with mild symptoms|0 Not really This disease is a great equalizer in many ways For the most part unless you can get some pricey drugs that may help you if you get hospitalized all a doctor can do is give you fluids or hook you to a machine and well thats about it You either get better or die|1 Cloth mask dont help stopping the VirusCloth absorbs water droplets including body fluidYou may get yourself more likely to get the virus compare to not wearing any masks at all|0 Damn brother thats wacky|0 but they go to same bathroom toilet lol|1 TBC for many possibly most its not self delusion They wouldnt be that way normally Brainwashed and traumatized and in fear describes it better Its not the people neeaarly as much as it is the system|0 The british super spreader would like a word|1 Its fallible yes But the upvotedownvote system is better than no vetting at all IMO It works relatively well to signal boost useful information in smaller focused subreddits It starts to fail when subreddits are populated by folks who dont known the subject matter andor their limits Trolling meming and brigading hurt quality as well I wish reddits post boosting algorithm worked more like a web of trust|1 Those people definitely have herpes at the minimum|1 Again as uEngineeringNeverEnds has said what you quoted does not say the virus is airborne In fact the only twoinstances of the word air in the article are the followingImplications of all the available evidence Although this novel coronavirus might have first originated from animals and now jumped into humans the possibility of persontoperson transmission could not be excluded as seen in this family cluster with no known history of exposure to markets or animals and rapid intercity spread might be possible by air travel Vigilant epidemiological control in the community and healthcare facilities is important to prevent another SARSlike epidemicandDiscussion We report here a familial cluster of unexplained pneumonia due to 2019nCoV Six of seven family members had radiological changes of viral pneumonia among whom five patients 1 2 4 5 and 7 tested positive for 2019nCoV by RTPCR Five patients patients 1 2 3 4 and 7 had associated symptoms at the time of presentation Complete genome sequences of the two strains from patients 2 and 5 showed almost complete nucleotide identity with each other and were closest to the bat SARSrelated coronaviruses reported in 2018 Several possible scenarios of transmission exist The first and most likely scenario is that one virologically documented patient with pneumonia patient 1 acquired the infection from a Wuhan hospital while visiting their relative relative 1 and then patients 15 transmitted the virus to patient 7 on returning to Shenzhen The second scenario is that patients 15 have directly acquired the infection from relatives 25 and transmitted it to patient 7 on returning to Shenzhen But this scenario is less likely because patients 15 developed symptoms before relatives 25 The third scenario is that patients 15 acquired the infection from an unknown common source in Wuhan and transmitted it to patient 7 when back in Shenzhen For the patients relatives relatives 25 they could have acquired the infection from the hospital or the community although no virological confirmation was possible and they had no animal contacts game food or visits to the Huanan seafood wholesale market Notably patient 1 or patient 3 who had visited Wuhan hospital might have been infectious before symptom onset because patient 5 was shedding virus without symptoms These findings suggested that persontoperson transmission and intercity spread of 2019nCoV by air travel are possible supporting reports of infected Chinese travellers from Wuhan being detected in other geographical regionsNeither of them say the virus is airborne both when read in sentence and read in context of the whole article or even paragraphAir travel refers to airplanes Its even clearer in your quote as it immediately follows with supporting reports of infected Chinese travellers from Wuhan being detected in other geographical regionsFinally the article summarizes your same quote again at the endOur study showed that persontoperson transmission in family homes or hospital and intercity spread of this novel coronavirus are possible and therefore vigilant control measures are warranted at this early stage of the epidemic Contributors Now having said all that there may or may not have been a reportarticle from other medical experts in the mainland HKU or HK in general that I think that I saw talking about airborne I only remember for sure that droplet transmission was mentioned in a fewYou can go try and find this article But please dont use this sentence as proof of the virus being airborne That sentence doesnt even talk about what youre claiming|1 Write to them that hey guys I am sorry you were right can we atleast be friends now|1 The 10 min test wont suddenly mean that these people will have access to healthcare its already too lateAs for hysteria just look at Italy that will be here soonOk but what even was the point in your response The ten minute test is not a form of treatment so lets provide political point scoring and fearmongering instead Is that more or less usefulAgain what youre saying about Italy is irrelevant Things will get worse here so its fine this sub is a useless pile of dogshit Tbh there is actually a possibility for some early forms of treatment within the next few months however again this will never appear on this sub|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 This is criminal An absolute criminal coverup|0 Sorry about that panicked for a second there Yeah this could have highly detrimental effects on Italys economy Lombardy is one of the main engines of Italys economy and alot of people who dont live there travel there for work from the neighboring areas But I guess desperate times call for desperate measures|0 A March Madness|0 But its only 3 that means all the currently dead will reanimate|0 That is possible But keep in mind he is only the 28th case in Tianjin where the hospitals are likely not overwhelmed yet with patients carrying this virusAlso given that his coworkers were diagnosed with the disease he might be a suspected case under heavy observation a possible explanation why they performed so many tests on him|0 No its not a typo|0 High pollution in Hubei maybe damaged lungs Poorer hygienestandard of living in Hubei possible comorbidty leading to worse symptoms Elderly more like to suffer worse symptoms with a weaker immune system Its relevant|0 B b but I thought thoughts and prayers were the solution to everything1|1 The ban isnt about banning Chinese passport holders but those who have been in China from Feb 1 You could well be in China on Feb 1 hopped onto a plane to Tokyo on Feb 2 and then took a TokyoBrisbane flight on Feb 3 The ban seems flawed|0 including the reasonable worst case scenarioThey even try to make the worst case scenario sound mild lol|0 I came home from college to my parents house and realized that they are not taking this serious at all Who has told all these older people that this isnt serious Thats what I want to know|0 Better do nothing like Mexico and USA in 2009 with H1N1 and killed 280 000 people Also release the real deaths stats 3 years later|0 Oh Im not so sure Ive mentioned on other comments my fears being in a capital city with an international airport and multiple universitys with international students We also are a huge multicultural city with large populations of specific countries so I unfortunately am very aware at how quickly that can change For the record I love the city and love how multicultural we are and wouldnt change it even given the circumstancesjust because I dont want to come across as racist or something but its definitely something Im conscious of|1 they want us to continue working for if work should falter so shall everything With out production the entire system falls apart|1 Went to the ER last night roomed next to the nurses station None of them took it seriously even making beer jokes from weeks ago One of them got mad because she had to check if her flight to a country was cancelled One lady even said shes just gonna use more hand sanitizer and she wont get it and itll die out when the summer gets here|0 same happening in europe even with the warnings of china actually countries like north korea are protecting their citizens more|1 Ive got a work trip to London planned on 17th Errr no|0 Thanks Stay safe|1 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 I just wanted to say this is a great infographic Any chance you could do something similar for ThailandAlso happy cake day|1 My fianc flew back to Seattle from being overseas in Tokyo for the past month on a ship No health checks at all no questioning on travel just standard back checks He didnt see anyone being questioned or temperature read at all|0 I lived her for ten years and think its a remarkable and brave democracy that has been resilient against a ruthless autocrat|1 Indeed I see parallel lines to people saying I cant believe that there are still some people that deny climate change even in discussions where there is no one saying that People just want to hype up the argumentation|0 Your comment should be stickied to the top|1 I just realized that my colleague went to Hubei to visit her family for the holiday Shes more than likely stuck there for the time being I guess Our manager has just informed us that the holiday has been extended until February 5th also|1 This aged well|1 Dont forget whats happening in the Aegean Or the boarder at Evros|1 Gulf Coast ports are being hit hard too Quite a bit of industry in Houston TX is being impacted and will be for the foreseeable future This is going to have economic repercussions on the world It would be nice to see this and situations like this covered in the news more|1 Ive been taking 1000 IU anyway since going out much less lately Taking it right after breakfast just in case it lowers my melatonin|0 An idiot professor in Infectious Deceases none the lessIt is both ironic and very sadHope he didnt infect too manyBest of luck op|0 And was that budget approved by Congress or nothttpswwwfactcheckorg202003falseclaimaboutcdcsglobalantipandemicwork|1 Making bold statements without sources Yikes|1 Ski goggles are not ideal they have vents in them to prevent fogging So they can make you braver than you should beGo for lab goggles or full face respirators|1 Theres a reason for that It is a remake of the contagion movie intro Lots of these clips arent even from Wuhan when it broke out This was made before it spread everywhere even Heres the original clip I found back in the middle of January i wish I could find the reddit link from when this was posted im sure it got removed though it had lots of info explaining where all the clips had actually come from and debunked most of the footage not even being from when the outbreak happened httpsstreamablecomcuypo|1 Well it is 61 rn|1 These people run countries we are all doomed|0 Coming from the UK its hard to get my head around this|0 Mad props to him Saving lives|0 Corporations have competition and thus must strive for cheap and solid productsGov has no incentive to do any of this With every bureaucratic layer skimming money from public taxes Gov would have no incentive to research and develop new products either|1 truly an amazing work of fiction then|1 Pretty much Youve gotta factor in that those patients are already in the very highrisk category Theyre older andor sick andor disabled enough to be living in a nursing home nursing home care is not cheap and medicaremedicaid doesnt cover it unless you actually need skilled nursing care These are not spry 60 year old grandmas who do yoga they are mostly elderly people and many of them likely have multiple underlying health issues On top of that some of them may have Alzheimers or dementia and not be able to communicate ifwhen they start feeling bad so staff dont realize something is going on until the person is visibly having difficulty breathing or other symptoms Its tragic certainly but its not surprising that the death rate is unusually high or that their conditions deteriorate especially quickly|0 trump was in a meeting with the brazilian government 3 days ago now these brazilians are confirmed to have covidwe must quarantine maralago and hope for the best god is trying to send us a mesage with boomer plague|1 0 deaths in singapore R u serious|0 If China isnt back to 100 in the next 10 days posts like this will be common Sorry about your job Many will be in the same boat if things dont improve drastically in the short term To me it looks like China is pushing the reopening of their factories even without workers in order to give the appearance of normalcy and to keep the Yuan from cratering This story is not over I know of factories right now with less than 10 of their staff and projecting it could take until April to get back to somewhat normal production Most companies run on just in time inventory models That means they might have 3045 days of saftey stock Once its gone Its gone|1 This country has failed so many of its citizens Im so ashamed to be American right now|0 Everyone else already knew this about Trump his supporters will support him no matter what and blame someone else for the problems|0 I was joking you nutbagBut who knows anymore|1 Could you add me as well Was hoping to crosspost a helpful quote I found earlier|1 Son told my husband 65 and I 64 to self isolate which we do as much as possible outside of work I started prepping early Feb and am now cooking and stocking the freezer Heres the rub I travel for work every stinking week Limiting myself to regional airports constantly wash my hands but it stinks|0 idk are you|0 Doing the lords work Thank you Bill|1 Ok maybe Ive been misled I will try to find somethingEdit httpswwwsciencemagorgnews202001wuhanseafoodmarketmaynotbesourcenovelvirusspreadingglobally|1 Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Because he lives there and we havent seen him since long Because we didnt had a vacation yetIm not sure at whats your question pertains to|0 Well they are by trying to cover it up for weeks Scientists are now saying their data shows if they had not tried to cover this up for three weeks the cases could have been reduced by 95 at the very beginning and for once it would be nice for the government of China to just own up and work with the rest of the world to stop this and make sure it doesnt happen again Instead the CCP is throwing blame everywhere else Its sad to see that it does NOT have to be this way Close the wet markets like you said youd do after the first SARS outbreak and then didnt do Chinese government and Im talking about the government NOT the people specifically|1 I highly doubt the China numbers are still real|0 That is a contradiction to say the least|0 File FMLA if an emergency 6th occurrence happens literally they cant fire you Its against the law|0 Well shit|0 This is the best case scenario for quarantine Food supplies for weeks comfortable rooms and they even have a TV and internet access Also why would you overload already crowded hospitals in the vicinity and risk getting vulnerable patients and staff infected|0 I hope this to be done for ALS and other diseases|1 Why does the free for all curve last so shortly If its the most amount of people infected shouldnt it be the highest and extend for the longest|1 The rest of the world should cut off travel to and from the US for their own safety The US is fucking this up worse than almost anyone else|0 With no lube sadly|0 You should go for a drive in Seattle Its a ghost town|0 I bought a bunch of cleaning supplies including Clorox wipes and hand sanitizer at Lowes Because around here no one shops at Lowes|1 My dad is 72 with only one lung and oral cancer mom is 71 with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and she works part time at the local grocery store They laughed at me weeks ago when I started buying canned food and beans and rice They told me they wouldnt cancel their cruise for April They refuse to stay home they go out to dinner and for breakfast and insist this is just a flu They have stressed me out so much its unreal They think I am crazy and this is all just the flu|0 The same thing happened yesterday in Bulgaria A woman returning from Italy wanted to get tested and they have told her that she has to pay 200 BGN 100 EUR if she wants to do it because she has no symptoms|0 You want to know something mind blowing Schools are closed to protect the adults from getting infectedThe children are not in danger they are simple carriers the mission of virus is to infect as much healthy children as possible to later transfer itself into adults So when you hear about schools being closed remember that its saving the lifes of Adults not the children|1 Agreed A more detailed discussion herehttpswwwredditcomrCOVID19commentsffo5l7antibodyresponsestosarscov2inpatientsofutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 Yeah I see what youre saying If someone is skilled at removing virus laden gloves from their hands without transferring the virus onto themselves thats great I do think that a person wearing gloves will be less aware of how they may be spreading the virus to other surfaces as opposed to someone who will wash their hands or sanitize after theyve touched various risky surfaces such as elevator buttons and door handles|1 People acting like it is already around you is the best way we can slow the spread|1 I am pissed as hell he didnt shut it all down in December|0 I really hope the fever was due to something else and it was just a false negative Yikes|0 OMG This is about to get totally out of control At least Cuomo is being honest|1 Odd Read other news saying Heidi Klum wasnt able to get tested even though she felt ill|0 I think you keep going back to money Think of it more as targeting resources Typically we dont have the entirety of the worlds resources going towards solving a problem When we do I think youd be surprised at the result|1 Good example of why I cant stand most humans|1 Tourists allready in the country is also quarantined in hotels while waiting to be sent home Popular tourist destinations and towns are closing down and passengers on cruise ships are not allowed to leave the boat 9 airports have also been closed Everything except grocery stores have either closed or are running at reduced capacity|1 This is pretty wrong There are waiting times for specialists but what youre describing is definitely far from the norm|1 If this is true then would that change the CDCs stance that uninfected individuals shouldnt wear masks|1 Thank you for sharing this|1 Im an emergency doctor in NYC We have had so so many patients meet criteria for testing Every call to the DOH resulted in we are refusing to test the patient use your clinical judgment and please tell the patient to selfquarantine themselves at home for two weeks one patient I treated as positive return from trekking through Europe including Italy Germany etc and fever to 104 next morning got swabs for cultures quarantined etc and the DOH called me back and said actually we change our minds we will not test send them home We will now be using lapcorp I believe in order to test ourselves without requesting it At least as of the most recent updates weve received More frustrating tbh is patients walking in and stealing entire boxes of surgical masks and n95 masks They are now in such short supply that I need to reuse them and request an n95 mask of a nurse when I need one Such a shitshow|0 Yeah and they dont have shit for paid leave typically and dont have the means to pay for childcare when the local schools close Youll have credentialed medical staff staffing the front desks and cleaning rooms not too far into this thing Were already talking about sending home medical staff that cant easily be converted to work an ICU so Im guessing theyll get offered some alternative jobs if they want to continue collecting a check Its a total dumpster fire|0 I hope youre feeling better internet stranger|1 I get the same looks and just wear it I tell myself Id like to do anything I can get not catch it and not my problem if others dont want to|1 You could still marry me I will take your Corona panic seriously but disappoint you in all other aspects of life|0 I think Spain has taken the worst response to coronavirus title from IranThe governments inaction has been appalling All for political reasons too|0 Right When 10 of the worlds population is quarantined we should just go about as if its business as usual It isnt until we have a chance to stick it to orangemanbad that we suddenly pay attention|1 Go to the map if you scroll all the way down they list out all of the cases for the day with their sources Whether or not they have the NY case up on the map yet idk But it will be up there soon if its not|0 I own many spicies Should I just buy fresh veg and then freeze it|1 I think were all interested to find out the results but Ill take them with a grain of salt given the propensity that this administration has for lying|0 How does a class average of F not reflect poorly on the professor for either being shit at teaching or making overly difficult exams|0 Yes it is super dooper strength apparently|1 So far he has been my go to for information that is not all about doom porn That being said to see him in the state he has been in his last few videos hes lost all hope for containment and now so have I|1 I just got off the phone with my dad an hour ago and finally got through to him and convinced him What seemed to get through to him was when I told him Italy had 20 cases 2 weeks ago and now the entire country is in quarantine with nearly 10000 infected almost 500 dead 700 more in critical condition This will be us in a few weeks And being over 60 with Diabetes hes in a high risk group I hope your dad starts taking it seriously Maybe show him some of these headlines|0 Youd be surprised how many athletes are asthmatic Or at least diagnosed as such so they can use asthma meds for performance enhancement|1 The 35 death rate is an overestimate since the number of actual cases is much higher than the reported 100000 but the actual number of deaths isnt much higher than the reported 3500 the virus is still bad but the outbreaks in Korea and other parts of the world where the number of reported cases is very accurate shows a death rate of 1 2|0 The median age of a physician in the US is in their 60sdoctors are going to get hit so hard here|0 What was it about the testing in China and South Korea that is so much better than the US The number of kits The number of labs The lack of testing in the US is not being explained well and is being politicized more than anything|1 something like tom hanks dying would make it click pretty damn quick for the boomers|1 Doesnt really matter anyway there isnt anything they can do now its already spreading inside the United States they could have back in early February They could have suspended air travel and instituted testing on a massive scale to quarantine but no|0 This pandemic sure will make one hell of a documentary one day|0 Yeah but then the world economy would crash|0 If dumb asses start unloading on quarantine officials What you think the national guard or deployed reserves is gonna flick that selector switch to semi and make it a fair fight If people start firing on them its gonna increase escalation of force Which I dont even think any of this is gonna happen They would probably deploy crowd control LTL in large scale|0 Thanks for the reply Ive grown up with the NHS here and I take it for granted that healthcare is free Of course I am aware that its funded by tax but I think its a fantastic service that this country has I am aware that people abroad knock it because they hear one thing they dont like Also it doesnt fit some peoples political agenda to say that the NHS is a great credit to the UKI wouldnt like to be in the situation where I thought I was ill and I couldnt afford the tests or treatment I hope the governments worldwide help out the citizens of their respective countries|1 A man of culture I see The only thing I dont like about it is the front camera but they actually fix it in the next model lol Mi Mix 3 it becomes popup which is super cool|1 Well the weird thing is that SARS had the same effect with smokers being really underrepresented but not so much with MERS I believe this virus is more closely related to SARS so there could be something there in terms of infectivity|1 Yeah when the news start showing thousands of dead Trumps brainwashed cult members will simply deny it and claim its all fake news and crisis actors Even when their own neighbors get sick they wont believe their own eyes if reality contradicts their cult leader|0 I saw an ad on Facebook last week advertising for volunteers with 7000 compensation but no idea if it was legitif it was this same study|0 canadians are polite and easy going government and companies makes good use of it|1 Im terrified of this|0 I need a video of this its hilarious|1 Yes Once all the hospital beds are full we will need a place for the sick and the sooner preparations are made the better provisioned these places will be Meanwhile selfquarantine at home is effective too|1 Age also makes you more likely to be infected|0 The minor deities of the politics church think themselves immune to the common peoples illnesses Some party line should protect him|1 We havent done a fucking thing to stop it yet Short of a national quarantine most of us WILL get it|0 There are plenty of countries you can look to to see how that works Countries whose upper echelons still manage to have a grand old time being rich and fancy while many beg on the streets or live in slums|1 No I dont want to change the World Series timeline lol|1 I could not disagree more with this post Leaving for example disaster preparedness or health centers and their related costs to small towns or cities in poorer locations of America is a horrible idea They have to be subsidized and our greatest scientific minds are in large part at university hospitals and in large cities|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Or we are seeing the fatality rate in noneAsians 100 if you look at the Iran numbers|0 Tbf article says this event started March 4 and I think most people were just barely starting to take it seriously enough to panic buy toilet paper at that point It wasnt until last Thursday that most people I know began to take real measures and stopped going to events try to stay at home|0 True but I know this place really Really well Ive never seen it like that ever|1 Yeah good job NHL players that play in the same arena but are keeping their money probably|1 Trumps worst nightmare people who are unimpressed by his money|0 At least thats what he said Since he continued seeing patients like it was nothing despite having just come back from the US imagine how much angrier people would be if he said he also had a fevercough etc|0 Love her|1 That must be hard when you have a population of 8 people Yeah 8 I said it|1 I understand what you are saying and I agree with youIf you dont like whats being said change the conversation Don DraperWhen I encounter someone saying overreacting I try to shift the conversation to costs risks and consequences in the hopes I get them to shift their mindset from under vs over where they will likely just double down on their position|1 The government really needs to stop lying|0 Do tell why its a horrible culture Is it the world famous museums parks libraries or architecture |0 At those rates the whole world will be officially confirmed as infected within a month which is why we expect this to level off at some point soon|0 agreed|1 What they should do lolTo clarify if these people literally fight against free speech than its unfortunate but necessary to take action on themNot to mention brigading is literally against the site wide rules|0 Usually they get trucks several days a week Several trucks actually Grocery stores are constantly getting deliveriesNo we dont know when well have more TP and hand sanitizer|1 Following Worldometer the amount of severe cases would indicate this effective with the limited data now obviously 38 cases only 1 severe|0 316 roentgen not great not terribleMan this feels like we are 40 minutes into a drawnout disaster movie|0 What a shitty premise The government should do this you cant just trust people that they would care for you Sometimes people dont care if you are being killed|0 anyone know what percentage of hydrogen peroxide is required for disinfection Will the standard low concentration mixtures for oral debridement be effective|1 Its time stop wearing outside shoesclothes throughout the house Keep them at the entrance Spray them down with disinfectant and then immediately wash your hands or use sanitizing gel Every precaution needs to be taken given how infectious this is Everyone needs to start looking at their daily habits and look for possible cross contamination behaviors|0 Yeah thats really not how this should work|1 Your name is bad and you should feel bad|0 The falun gong wiki is carefully managed by the cult and its allies in the mediaIn the many email exchanges I have had with Falun Dafa members I have frequently focused on the following three areasRacism and homophobia I have specifically asked Falun Dafa members how they regard Mr Lis racist teachings which denigrate the children of interracial unions as cross bred and incompleteOne Falun Dafa practitioner responded My understanding is that when gods created man we were created to gods image sic different races was created sic by gods of different races and when a child is born from a marriage of two people from different races it will be hard for the gods to trace the childs origin and therefore hard to saveIn defense of Li Hongzhis homophobic pronouncements one member remarked Actually all orthodox upright religions view this matter in the same way Christianity included it is very hard to reach heaven when practicing homosexuality|1 Dont trust those China numbers right Thats what you told me|0 And C Tho honestly Vitamin rich food is better|1 Then use Net official development assistance by country as a percentage of GNI from your link as the top post referred to of GDP donatedThat makes it a fair comparison Of course big or rich countries will donate more overall but if we want to measure generosity by country a percentage of their income donated is a better metric1st place Sweden 14020th place United States 017If we look at the big blocks of regions USA as states Europe as countries and China as provinces we have European Union average 047 China 0348 United States 017and then some big countries India 0077 Russia 006 Brazil 0025Pretty shocking to see how low Russia is on the list considering its relative status among the Great Powers|1 Id be okay its probably necessary to slow it down|1 But China havent and cannot eliminate it from their population that is a fallacy It is a global pandemic and will keep coming back The choice is to tackle it now or push it off until winter when it will be a hell of a lot worse|0 Anxiety works the opposite way Im afraid and will magnify potential symptoms and materialize others out of thin air Im anxious I know Not to say that this person shouldnt ask the experts where he should be seen if at all but trust your intuition is sometimes exactly the opposite of what one should do|1 Stop acting like all landlords are greedy arseholes I agree they should not just evict people for starters who else are they going to get anyway at the moment However my friend is a renter and a landlord he is not super wealthy he wont be able to pay his rent or bills without the rental income from his property|0 Finally someone who pays attention and doesnt blindly post stupid shitAgree 100 theres a reason why deaths are occurring in China and not other countries as of yet|1 Tin can and string Mic drop|0 Me family is in northern China and Im in the US I questioned Chinas numbers too due to the sudden decrease of cases But my parents told me that they already went back to work quarantine in most of the cities are lifted and my hometown 15hrs drive from Wuhan has no more cases People have been going out without masks and everything Its a completely different time from two weeks ago So I dont doubt that its true that the situation has gotten way under control now|1 Well thats not reassuringare them numbers worse than what I read or I had a family member who is a doctor that says that people most at risk for death are elderly people and people with underlying illnesses Im 25 years old and really healthy Am I still fucked|0 Its a beautiful day outside|1 Its also not just a simple question of heres a bed put a patient in it like you could do with a fractured hip or stroke All of these patients will need isolation protocols they cant just be placed in wards mixed with general patients due to the high risk of cross infection So in reality only a fraction of the total beds could realistically be used|0 I think its becoming apparent that the quality of healthcare infrastructure is one of the factors having a considerable impact on mortality rates In particular with respect to ECMO extracorporeal membrane oxygenation treatment availability Italy has a high number of ICU beds per person 125 per 100000 but ECMO is not widely available In China outside of Hubei ECMO artificial lung treatment was widely used where ventilation didnt work I would think ECMO is widely used in Germany as well because China ordered machines from there I cant find any information about ECMO availability in South KoreaI realise healthcare infrastructure is an obvious determinant but Im starting to wonder about this treatment in particular|1 Question how are we gauging those who died at homeIt has widely reported that they turn away the much older patients to focus on the younger severe patientsIm assuming there are alot of unaccounted people who have died at home in theory no|0 To be fair China is a developed country|1 thats very true I did not think about this actually some people do have to go to work|1 It would be great to be able to compare countries to one or multiple US states For example comparing all of Italy is much more comparable to the state of California than it is to the US as a whole|1 What about camostat theoretically stops the virus at the very first step of its reproduction cycle virus cant even get into the cell gets yeeted|0 Not quite that Swabs taken from the air exhaust outlets tested positive suggesting that small virusladen droplets may be displaced by airflows and deposited on equipment such as vents|1 Work is allowed to resume from Feb 10A week old at least Hopefully things are getting betteredit Considering that today is Feb 16 unless the sentence is written by mistake I stand by that comment|1 the term panic buying really irks me I dont see how families buying enough food for 23 weeks is panicIts also dangerous because it shames people into not preparing I spent two weeks begging my sister to go stock up and she would always respond I dont want to panic To which I would say its not panic its preparing|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpstorinorepubblicaitcronaca20200317newscontagiaimediciorarischia12annidicarcerelaprocuraindagaperepidemiaaggravata251520891refRHPPTPBHI251505081C12P9S18T1I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Frustrating indeed I am not worried about the Fatality Rate I am way more worried about serious cases Many many many sigh too many people do not realize that if hospitals are swarmed things get bad In addition many countries cannot handle a monday morning during flu season let alone an epidemic Even if the it would be just panic buying at fault just get supplies before everyone else does I do not know just common sense which seems i am afraid not so common anymore Thank you for your sharing|0 Sure thing what would you like to know Keep in mind any answers I give you will be either from the infection specialists at my hospital or referenced from the CDC WHO etc So yeah ask away |1 Beat him with a 6ft stick or greater|1 He makes 3m lol|1 The national guard will show up to get you And Im sorry no matter what kind of fantasies you live your AR will not protect you from even militarized trained police who want to get you out of a building|0 Yes and its all stupid|0 I have to leave my home at 8 am Ill probably get home at 7 pm As an Independent Pharmacy owner I am not paid to do this shit I deliver to you and you dont ever tip Never Now we are getting into another time|0 Im feeling the same but Ive also started dealing with seasonal allergies the last few years and Ive been cleaning up at a family members home that burnt down so I dont know if Im sick or if my lungs are angry from pollen and soot since Im stretching out masks and filters way longer than is reasonable since I know I wont be able to get replacements|0 Thank you And thanks for facilitating the discussion|1 Based on modeling1 and biochemical experiments34 SARSCoV2 seems to have an RBD that may bind with high affinity to ACE2 from human nonhuman primate ferret pig and cat as well as other species with high receptor homology1 For a precursor virus to acquire the polybasic cleavage site and mutations in the spike protein suitable for human ACE2 receptor binding an animal host would likely have to have a high population density to allow natural selection to proceed efficiently and an ACE2 gene that is similar to the human orthologueHow plausible is it that pigs were the intermediate host and some fraction of the diseased pigs affected by the massive African swine fever outbreakhttpswwwnprorgsectionsthesalt20190815751090633swinefeveriskillingvastnumbersofpigsinchina were actually carrying a precursor to the current SARSCoV2 ASF symptoms in pigshttpswwwaphisusdagovaphisourfocusanimalhealthanimaldiseaseinformationswinediseaseinformationafricanswinefever sound similar to COVID19 symptoms in humans so it seems reasonable to think a precursor nCov disease in pigs could have been misdiagnosed as the well known ASF virus especially if it appeared in the midst of an actual ASF outbreak|1 Ive cut down my eating out to almost none in the past 3 weeks but now when I do occasionally I always have an alcohol wipe ready to wipe down my hands and card after paying Also try to wipe down the containers my food is in|1 I certainly think we could double or triple Id be surprised if it jumped more than that though|1 theres lot of signs of collapse all around us i dont have racist bone in my flesh everything is fine in wuhan be happy and relax|1 Yes I read this today and it is excellent|1 Two weeks ago I was talking with my mom about how it seemed like the virus was pretty well contained to Wuhan so hopefully wed be ok And then Italy Iran and South Korea started getting a flood of cases and there was that outbreak at LifeCare in Seattle|1 Im sorry but youre being a dick with that an Asian person sneezed on me commentJust read some Coronavirus subs today People all over the country are having all the symptoms right down to difficulty breathing and cant get tested because no travel no known contacts with a confirmed caseThere is community spread These people very well may have it And if there arent enough tests then I can understand how they are not top priority if not old or immunocompromisedBut lumping them in with paranoid people who have no symptoms and think an Asian person sneezed on them is really mean and condescending Medical professionals can distinguish between them via symptoms and would be able to administer tests accordinglyDont lump asymptomatic hypochondriacs in with people who are sick and scared please|0 Its actually very cheap and very easy to make chloroquine A single factory can produce millions of doses a day if necessary Dont know about Hydroxychloroquine but thats a good sign It is more expensive but still only like 025 a pill or less outside of the united statesBut as a rule now is the time to stock up on any medications for the next couple months whether they might help cure covid19 or not There could be supply chain shortages if these mass quarantines drag on|1 This is a great thought but if they get the 50 Billion how can I ask for refunds of the few hundred dollars in baggage fees I paid over the last few years|1 Yeah its slightly worse than influenza the virus isnt as bad as the media declares it to be For your phone theirs a product called cavi wipes just wipe your phone off once you get home and no need to worry about it|0 Safety is far more important than what some random people think While theyre sick in bed you your gf can be perfectly okay|1 People are wearing masks if they can before they get things to drop off because the primary spread is through respiratory droplets But theres a shortage of masks so this is an issue They also wear gloves if they have them But theres nothing anyone can do about anyone who may have touched the product up the supply chain Theyre taking what precautions they can washing hands etc The people receiving the dropoffs are waiting at least 3 hours to open the door to get the supplies and spritzing them with sanitizer before touching them I wish I had better answers|1 but still cant play crisis 3 at acceptable frame rates|1 I was hoping that was going to be in the US|1 The Chinese one doesnt mention other drugs perhaps it is because cq is stronger than the hcq available in Korea|1 Just my town thats bullshit then Everyones supporting each other by saying we need to ignore Boris and continue as normal and support all bars restaurants and clubs by going still|0 Basically Heres what people dont seem to understand When you go public you sell pieces of yourself to whoever is willing to buy them You agree to put up the company usually 90 of it You essentially create money out of thin air But thats by and large just a scam If someone could buy up all the shares they could in theory take over the company but thats all it means By buying back the shares what you say is we got your money for nothing heres some of that back It is the only honest thing on Wallstreet which is funny because it is so hated and seen as evil|0 I mean cant you just tell the hospital to eat a dick and that youre poor and theyll have to pay for it After theyve fixed you of course|0 Coronavirus has requested your locationPlease click here to allow this app to continue following your location once you leave the app|1 it should be restored anyway water isnt a want its a need|1 Except there are guns around They just happen to be in the hands of criminalsEdit if you are all down voting because you think its not true please do some research You can start by searching Google news for london gun and you will find countless news reports of shootings etc Thats just in London|0 Perhaps the CDC should recommend that everyone start wearing an improvised mask like a handkerchief to prevent asymptomatic spreading i bet it would help reduce stigma of mask wearing in the US and cut transmission|1 Declaring state of emergency is not equal to preventing the disease from entering effectively Closing the border would be the best option and instead they made zhuhai Macau bridge free for a whole week Thats just inviting the patients to overload the already stressed medical system|1 Even if you or anyone else for that matter get a test so what There is no cure no vaccine no treatment except selfisolation and IF you get to the hospital in time after developing a near death version they can save your life maybe But its hours not weeks hours from healthy to dead If you have this and are at home and develop the deadly version you are still dead Then there is the problem that someone can test negative every time until they are suddenly positive but still healthy Either way that person is infectious If you get a cold or flu or maybe this self isolate and wait it out The test is still pointless at this stage|0 This bodes ill|0 Until WHO says this is an emergency this is a nothing topic globally except for the people of Wuhan and ChinaHere is the WHO DirectorGeneral Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus DWhttpswwwdwcomenwhotoholdcoronavirusemergencymeetinga52192252 He also said the WHO deeply regrets a mistake in three of its reports last week in which it described the global risk posed by the disease as moderate instead of high He put the misrepresentation down to human errorWHOhttpswwwwhointnewsroomeventsdetail20200130defaultcalendarinternationalhealthregulationsemergencycommitteeonnovelcoronavirusinchina The International Health Regulations Emergency Committee on novel coronavirus in China will advise the DirectorGeneral on whether the outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern PHEIC and what recommendations should be made to manage it They are meeting now started at 13h30 and will make their decisions and recommendations public on the WHO website|0 Your comment has been removedPlease be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts You must follow rule 1 and Reddits content policy specifically the rules regarding threatening or encouraging violence or physical harmhttpswwwreddithelpcomencategoriesrulesreportingaccountandcommunityrestrictionsdonotpostviolentcontentI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 or many of us really care about our rights|1 Figuring out how to vote during all this is actually a pretty major deal under the category of keeping the country running|1 They dont need to Bunch of people getting sick Start the quarantine|0 Romance of the Three Kingdoms era wants a word with you|1 Yes federalism has fucking fucked us states would have been able to test their own airports at their own will from the start Maybe not all states but even a few being proactive wouldve got everyone else on board as soon as there were a few positive tests but the Godhead CDC and the federal scumbags decided to make the decisions for 50 regions of human beings They can go to hell|1 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Wait Whats that Sounds quite like a journey|1 Yeah I was really careful about what I said because I didnt want to come across as alarmist I mean I didnt really know that I was right Lets just say I knew I didnt know everything I did a lot of reading and came to conclusion it was worth being a little vocal Im much more anxious and concerned at this point I think the reality of this is hitting me hard regardless of my awareness|1 Youre correct its not issued on arrival but that isnt exactly unusual Onarrival visas are more or less reserved for countries that also give us Canadians onarrival visas which China mostly doesnt apart from a few cases transiting very short term visits etcIf China gave Canadians blanket visas onarrival then I suspect Canada would reciprocate We issue onarrival visas to countries far far sketchier than ChinaMost visa rules in the world have a basis in reciprocity You treat our peeps nice we treat your peeps nice|1 Thank you for your perspective it helps to simmer down my anxiety a LOT|1 During the height of the panic buying here in Singapore someone ordered 800kg from online Redmart delivery Bet you cant beat that|0 As a corollary the Chinese have found some success treating covid19 patients with blood plasma from recovered patients antibodies and are urging blood plasma donations|1 Lol wtf subreddit am I on right now|0 Not a single person was killed in Hong Kong Best to shut the fuck up if you dont know what youre talking about|0 I will be messaging you in 1 month on 20200428 182114 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202004282018211420UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfaxktkimpercentsurethiswillhappenfj16wdecontext37 OTHERS CLICKED THIS LINKhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5Bhttps3A2F2Fwwwredditcom2Fr2FChinaFlu2Fcomments2Ffaxktk2Fimpercentsurethiswillhappen2Ffj16wde2F5D0A0ARemindMe21202020042820183A213A1420UTC to send a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spamParent commenter can delete this message to hide from othershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectDelete20CommentmessageDelete2120faxktkInfohttpsnpredditcomrRemindMeBotcommentse1bko7remindmebotinfov21CustomhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectRemindermessage5BLink20or20message20inside20square20brackets5D0A0ARemindMe2120Time20period20hereYour RemindershttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoRemindMeBotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessageMyReminders21FeedbackhttpsnpredditcommessagecomposetoWatchful1subjectRemindMeBot20Feedback|0 ExactlyThat my friend is logic with Chinese characteristics|1 Its not just about shutting down consoles its the fact that their employees dont have access to cleaning supplies and are being expected to bring their own The fact that theyre not shutting down public consoles is just insult to injury|0 An actual patient 31 in Kentucky refusing to self quarantine was forced to do so The governor ordered law enforcement to prevent him from leaving his home httpswwwkentuckycomnewshealthandmedicinearticle241200076html|0 I am just sick of this guy he pretends to be a philanthropist but in reality he is just piling money un his false foundations to elude taxes|0 How is that possible that people from Italy who had no contact with China got the virus Is there any scientific explanation to these unlinked cases|0 Well right now were not leaving the house at all and my husbands family has been dropping off groceries at the garage I think were going to wait two weeks before we leave the house and only to het groceries when we do our deep cleaning Im using Lysol on hard surfaces and bleaching all of our sheets and bedding Im also going to wash all our clothes and deep clean the bathrooms with comet and bleach and wipe door knobs off very well before we have any guests come inside|1 Kobe affected many peoples livesLike that girl he raped and his fans sent death threats to|0 You are disrespecting the Chinese people you think theyre idiots freedom of speech is a fundamental right you think they cant handle internet rumors|1 I wish the Netherlands did the same thing People here are being super ignorant and the prime minister Rutte is the one thats being the most of them all Group Immunity has been proven not to work based on studies and experts from Italy and other countries Im a foreigner living in the Netherlands and I am genuinely concerned about whats going to happen next|1 If your unsure do it first instinct is usually the right one|0 Ah I see thank you for the clarification Didnt know how many were on it but still|1 Ill believe it when confirmed by medical professionals outside of China|0 Substantial well not really this one has only 85 neversmokers in a large group of 1000 cases with 58 of the sample being males in table 1 httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020620020974v1Sample Methods We extracted the data on 1099 patients with laboratoryconfirmed 2019nCoV ARD from 552 hospitals in 31 provincesprovincial municipalities through January 29th 2020|1 lol ptsd is really playin in my favor finally|1 Your comment was removed as it is a joke meme or shitpost Rule 10|1 Ok this is great news|1 I feel Trudeau didnt want to piss off trump by being the first one to do it Spineless as usual He needs to make a stand during these times time is not a luxury we have|1 Same here Just buying things that I normally buy I love making chili pasta etc and doing it cheaply I am just ahead in my grocery shopping|1 Or the fact they shut down schools over a month ago its a country where everyone has facemasks already motorcycles pollution theyre vigilant due to previous experience with SARS quarantined thousands arriving from affected areas and currently have high humidity and temperature in much of the countryBut nah communist bad capitalist good|0 Exactly thisI guarantee a low level analyst flagged an issue in Wuhan in December Itll will have beenGo find out more for two weeks Then nah fuxk it my boss doesnt care about this shitBut the time mid jan comes around said analyst is getting his or her ass chewed out for not alerting anyone Said analyst if they are any good has now copied fucking everyone in on their immediate superiors emails saying its a nothingburger and is about to get a new position while said immediate superior now has a shiny new desk in a bunker deep in bumfuck nowhere|1 Yours is just as good Thx you for posting Clone and repost mine wherever you want I hereby open source it LOL|1 Richmond KY no confirmed cases yet completely out of toilet paper Lysol wipes hand sanitizer and Ramen noodles most canned soup most peanut butter I was the only person wearing gloves including staff which is concerning There were still loads of senior citizens out very concerning|1 Stay safe as much as you can mate you matter to us Thank you for your report and know theres people around the world who are thinking about you and hoping you stay healthy and as clearminded as you are right now|1 Why is each state doing DIFFERENT thingsBecause the United States was founded as something akin to the European Union Your question is akin to asking why is each country in Europe doing different things Its because the states are the source of the federal governments power not vice versa|1 Criticising a government for its handling of the outbreak and criticising a government for funding promises made in 2016 with poorly researched shit flinging are two completely different things How is this not blatantly obvious|0 Japan is working on a 1 hour one Though 3 hours is pretty good|1 Right Like pay my rent for me and Ill happily stay home|1 Well that settles it then rolls eyes|1 This is stupid Instead of a little controlled panic now youre going to have a large uncontrolled panic later|0 She sells readings on Etsy Sameday response for a three card spread I think she charges seven bucks A full 10 card Celtic Cross is somewhere between 3040 I dont know off the top of my headThe way she really stands out is she sends pics of the spread to her client and she has unique and highquality cards uses a lovely cloth and surrounds them with crystals smudge sticks and other prop type stuff shot and arranged very artfully with good lighting Shes a whiz with visuals and very entrepreneurial as well as a good reader I am none of those things so I dont know how it will go for me lol|1 Agreed This post honestly sounds like someone working for the Chinese government would writeHEY LOOK AT THOSE GUYSI notice Chinese propaganda rags generally take a similar approach China is no longer epic center and will recover steadfastedly and shortly the situation is worse in Korea now etc|1 for nowpeople in their 40s will be ICU care first ones who have the highest chances of survival will be treatedanyone over 60good luck|1 Wow great info Do you think the following idea is good I have been thinking about a wearing rubber gloves that have a flannel lining when Im out and about They are loose enough that theyre easy enough to pull off if need be and the lining makes them comfortable adsorbs sweat Having read your advice I could then carry some microfiber towels and Dawn to clean them during the course of a day|1 Its now taking over the top news stories across the globeFriends and family said I was crazy tooIts sad even now people choose to ignore this I think it a coping mechanism for them|0 Make it apocalyptic|0 I wonder if they have made a list of people traveling from wuhan into the US or have been in contact with someone from wuhan since December If it is already exponential it could turn out rapid social awareness of the virus outpaced its infection rate and any more positives are from previous infections Are there any historical examples similar to this|1 Thats usually fine with LLCs they can be pass through entities As long as you are paying the tax somewhere youll be OK I think ask your accountantYou are unlikely to get in trouble for that so long as you claim and pay it on your personal taxes But you wont get this benefit I have my LLCs license software from my SCorp resulting in the LLCs having almost no income and then I pay taxes pay myself from the SCorp I think I could probably restructure and pay less taxes but honestly I think thats kind of unpatriotic to shirk your tax burdenETA Id ask a pro about what youre doing ASAP You dont want to comingle business and personal accounts like that or you lose the benefit of the LLC because that makes it trivial to pierce the veilhttpswwwlawcornelleduwexpiercingthecorporateveil if you get sued meaning they can then come for your personal assets like your house Again Im not an accountant but I think you should talk to one because that could bring you trouble down the line even if the IRS is OK with it|1 I wont question their decision I dont know their reality Closing schools is a difficult decision within the context of an pandemic What are the demographics Can you ID source spread relationships Are there indications of endemic spread What are the socioeconomic impacts Rural Urban Leadership This is just a hint of what your public health officials are trying to grasp when they make decisions You think they are mindless bureaucrats God no The future of humanity and even their own families and themselves is in their decisions They have prepared their whole lives in obscurity for this being sometimes abused for it Ask them why they made their decision for clarity but understand they are soldiers in a war you do not comprehend and they are riding a rollercoaster to not win but only to mitigate They lose no matter what But maybe they saved millions Prove the negative And their reward Their actions will be torn to pieces because they didnt save everyone Oh closing schools is only one of the decisions they have to make today As a former and always Marine I got one thing to say Lock and load once more into the breach|0 no tpIs it fucking amateur hour|0 Half a million people died of treatable cancer because of the 2008 crash Not bailing out the banks would have been much worse|0 Here in Michigan it felt like the second we had a case here Whitmer shut down all public schools and most universities shut down It seems like insanity to me just learning of it now that New York is still open with 500 confirmed cases x200BAs far as massive testing being a solution goes the tests have a significant false positive is it really more beneficial to mass test before serious symptoms arise than to shut down means of its spread|1 Fuck American healthcare |0 Awesome will share with local diy scene thanks|1 Boomer alertIf one person in an office gets sick they should be encouraged to stay home so they dont spread the illness But because of mindsets like yours people just come in sick even though sick workers are less productive and more likely to make mistakes And then once they get everyone else sick the whole office is working at a suboptimal level And everyone feels like shit|0 Preliminary studies show infectious ability up to 3 hours after being aerosolized|1 They are applicable until 1 million people get it then shit goes out the window but thats why we do containment so the peak is hopefully much lower|0 More people it infects more opportunity for mutation|1 If there is anything that shows you how ill prepared this admin is instead of using that money to acquire and distribute ventilators theyre just gonna send everyone a check and then tell the states they are on their own to get supplies If only people were paid enough to have savings to back themselves up in these situations|0 Wash your hands dont touch your face and for fucks sake stop hoarding all the toilet paper Its a respiratory disease not a stomach disease|0 The practice was common when I worked at a public agency You could donate sick or vacation days to someone who was terminally ill because gotta love America if you are sick enough to miss work you will eventually lose insurance coverage Got that Get insured for serious illness but lose insurance because you got seriously illThat said I worked in a government bureaucracy not for the worlds richest person|0 Im twenty Im worried about getting it and Im worried for my family too my father had a heart transplant and has medications that suppress his white blood cells so Im unsure if he will survive Im unsure if I will too since Im a smoker and that fucks with your immune system although Im not over weight and Im not under weight maybe this woman was unlucky nonetheless I feel bad for her and am still terrified of this illness|0 Theres tons of codes and rules For the most part these rules are only strictly applied of foreign capital projects Domestically owned projects are a big free for all I built factories for a major chemical conglomerate I visited competitor factories that made similar products to our factories and was dumbfounded at the stark contrast in safety and operations We had regulators up our ass at all times The was a local owned factory in our chemical park that dumped a cyanide molecule in the evenings in amounts that must have been hazardous the odor would choke us Nothing ever happened to that location The local companies arent being held to the same standards because of greed and bribery|0 Never ascribe to malevolence that which can be explained by incompetence|0 like by actually giving out fines and arresting people is the order from the governer considered a law ordinance just curious what it takes to get people to take this shit seriously ive heard many people jsut flat out say they wont stop what they are doing until they are forced to do so its pathetic|0 I dont see why one should cancel out the others responsibilities That answer is trite and irresponsible in itself|0 almost like we shouldnt have such an insane defense budget when were a 4th world shitholecan tanks get turned into ventillators asking for a friend|1 Zero precautions from Halifax to Toronto and back Not even a notice in the bathrooms for example Wash hands Blowers are nasty for this Etc Crazy to meWe going to put them up at point of no return|0 What good are his masks and test kits if the federal government is actively blocking the testing of sick people|0 SARS R0 is around 3httpswwwwhointcsrsarsenWHOconsensuspdf which is similar to current SARSCoV2 R0httpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdf although I do agree that it is more infectious Should the infectivity be higher as SARSCoV2 is also a coronovirus with similar infection mechanism plus asymptomatic transmission is possible mask wearing should really be considered based on current evidence from other coronavirus|1 Exactly voting with your dollar Employees may choose to work somewhere else and purchase their own income insurance perhaps or if possible save some money and resources aside for that purpose Some methods may prove more efficient than othersAs a tool addict I may show my support by frequenting Lowes if the price is close enough As for the general discussion special circumstances might require a different approach say if it is a extended or more severe disruption than any individual or business may realistically prepare for Just a thought for the thread|1 How is divorce rate going to go up if nobody is around to make it happen If anything divorce rates should drop substantially considering everything will be closed|0 Oh dont worry about your tax dollars Trump has cut the future budget of the CDC to ribbons Who needs the CDC when it would be cheaper to have a pandemic and kill off 600k people and get back to work pronto The only time you can stop a pandemic is at the beginning so yes you should test everything that moves Otherwise you are all going to die Enjoy your tax dollars loser|0 My favorite is It only kills 2 of people2 of people sick enough to seek medical help and end up recordedThe Diamond Princess showed that about half of people infected had no symptoms most of the rest were mild enough not to need medical care About 45700 total were serious and 7 diedThats a 1 mortality rate in people whos average age was about 60 The dead here were all in their seventies or older That is not an illness with an overall 2 mortality rateA sample size of 700 is going to give a decently accurate estimate of mortalityhttpsslatecomtechnology202003coronavirusmortalityratelowerthanwethinkhtmlFor example in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic some early estimates were 10 times greater than the eventual CFR of 128 percent Epidemiologists think and quibble in terms of numerators and denominatorswhich patients were included when fractional estimates were calculated which werent were those decisions validand the results change a lot as a result We are already seeing this In the early days of the crisis in Wuhan China the CFR was more than 4 percent As the virus spread to other parts of Hubei the number fell to 2 percent As it spread through China the reported CFR dropped further to 02 to 04 percent As testing begins to include more asymptomatic and mild cases more realistic numbers are starting to surface New reports from the World Health Organization that estimate the global death rate of COVID19 to be 34 percent higher than previously believed is not cause for further panic This number is subject to the same usual forces that we would normally expect to inaccurately embellish death rate statistics early in an epidemic If anything it underscores just how early we are in this|0 Yeah and|1 Aside from the 01 who will only look out for themselves theres concern for first responders medical personnel and such Do the people planning this realize that first responders arent going to focus on their jobs if their spouseschildren are sick|0 Wow You have absolutely zero knowledge of manufacturing and distribution practices|1 Just force isolate old people and they wont die|1 If you tell the truth about what you observed you are in the clearYou should name the facility if not the nurse and be ready to identify both nurses that treated you|1 Good article thanks for sharing|1 Lol I thought it was illegal to belong to any other party in China|1 The government is the people CNN couldve started its 247 coverage of the coronavirus in December Wonder what they were more preoccupied with Blaming everything on the government Wonder what they should be focused on right now instead|0 What are your top indicators that it was made in a lab|1 I couldnt find those Edited because sometimes I lack brain cells ugh|0 Thats a good list I think those are the most salient points especially the hospitalization rate Thats what worries me the most Im healthy but I may very well come down with this a few months from now By then what are the odds a hospital bed will be available if I catch a bad case of it Adding hospital bed and ventilator capacity isnt an easy thing to do|0 are you paid to spread so much misinformation i cant fathom someone being borne so dumb like you are|0 You guys are going to kill someone|0 Its a pandemic not flu season This is the world youre living in try to keep up|1 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 Good This weekend will be great Im not as worried anymore Thank you for sharing|1 Oh fuck Time to go down Winchester and wait for this all to blow over|0 Dude hes trying to have a serious discussion with you Saying ok doomer and leaving it at that just doesnt make sense You think some of these experts are wrong Explain why instead of using a trite one liner|0 People should have seen this coming Some assholes do just want to watch the world burn|0 Yes Im saying reinstate what we had and top up with EI|1 Nope we in Nigeria dont want him|0 So you dont have it but still want the attention Understood|1 Same my friend It allowed me to be paranoid enough to start my own teleworking earlier than my organization which is finally testing for everyone now Basically emailed my boss and said I will be working from home moving forward Now cases in my area are exploding and it seems that early paranoia wasnt so crazy after all|1 Its not hard at all Single events in SK Wuhan and elsewhere have been directly attributable to case explosions|1 China does the same thing with flu death counts Their flu death counts are under 100 for 2016 and 2017 compared to the US 10000to 20000 Its so backwards In 2016 and 2017 China reported only 56 and 41 deaths respectively according to NHC data One possible reason for Chinas unusually low flu death numbers is that health officials in the country depend on reports of deaths for their data rather than the statistical modeling used by authorities elsewhere in the world httpswwwcaixinglobalcom20190221whyarentpeopleinchinadyingoftheflu101382286html|0 Then you have 1k to use on charity more efficiently than the govt can Where is the problem|1 I would assume that if your blood pressure is under control via medicine then the vascular system is not under this pressure and your heart is not under stress thereby negating the impact with regards to COVID19|0 Hunker down at home with the family live off of my stockpile of food and play card or board games to pass the time Maybe work on some projects Ive been putting off|1 Possibly hopeful If its mutated already but to a less potent strain Id think that would be somewhat good news Its mutating itself from a potent to weaker form|1 youre so cool|1 Nursing homes in the west will get ravagedBear in mind that in China most elderly live with their eldest son or some other member of the familyThey are not abandoned in care homes like in the westI expect the widespread use of care home to have a huge impact on the overall CFR|1 Yes thats exactly whats going to happen|1 It doesnt matter the number Look at their actions not their words or numbersA city with 1000000 people in Iran just got quarantinedYou quarantine 1000000 people for only 2 deathsWelcome to pandemic|0 Not all bipedal giants eat them Just disgusting ones|0 Theres way more than 500 they were able to trace the infection in the retirement home in WA back to the first person that got infected back in December and by comparing the generations of the virus were able to determine that he had infected 500 to 1500 people At the time there were 39 known casesWithout a shred of doubt the numbers youre hearing are the tip of the iceberg|0 Youve never heard of freezing your bread Sure its not as good as fresh but it gets the job done|1 Who WHO wants to knowBut seriously what player signed the autograph Rudy Gobert Donovan Mitchell or a player that hasnt been confirmed to have the virus yetEdit It was Rudy GoberthttpsmobiletwittercomNBC10Samstatus1238566184997576704|0 Even though its bullshit does it really matter if its 24 hours or a week Chances are big that a lot of surfaces are touched within 24 hours anyway And you dont know when someone touched a surface last|0 As a Michigan guy I reluctantly have to applaud you guys down south|1 Just answer if this your kids with exactly the same symptom what would you do Stay home waiting to die|0 Its because the government is putting response efforts to the state As it should Its supporting the states and not blanketing the country in rules that might hamper parts of the country that need to stay working Cities like San Fran and Seattle are doing great response measures But Toledo Texas doesnt need to implement those same restrictions|1 20 min drive got ya beat Unless its rush hour then a lifetime lol|1 Yeah I agree it largely depends on testing conditions If they require to show hands then that complicates things but if they dont just fuck around with the mic settings or get a quiet keyboard and mouse I kinda see it as a challenge so that ingenuity can guarantee an advantage and thanks to our best friend competition any advantage is a benefit The idea is expose the flaws of the testing process eg relying only on memory|1 Continually the US decides to take the China approach Coverup censor block muzzle distort downplay|0 Societal stress starting to show and its only been 2 days of quarantine It starts with prisons of course but lets see how long the rest of society holds up until violence flairs up I hope not but Western peoples are not used to these measuresIt happend in a fucking high security prison and because they cancelled meetings Not some bullshit societal stress agenda youre trying to push Dont talk like its the end of times and that the violence in the wesst will flair up Please chill|0 Yeah Im not an expert on it but there were other other factors too Like there was less labor so people started coming up with new ways to work efficiently including switching from growing grain which is labor intensive to livestock which is less so Which had the side effect of improving the diets of a lot of people who previously rarely ate meat or much else besides grainsI have no idea how COVID will turn out but I imagine there will be some opportunities that come out of it but maybe not until after the economic plunge Like the fact the Chinese production is shutting down is probably forcing a lot of people to find production elsewhere which is an opportunity for factories outside of ChinaBut Im just speculating|1 Its going to be great Im not sure Ill buy a KitchenAid yet though Ill work by hand for a while and then figure out what to do next|1 Does everyone realize there was a jump because of testing It would be the same in the US if they were testing more These people were already infected they just hadnt been tested This is the problem with titles like this Instead of posting that they started testing and cases are rising they dooms day it for karma We need positivity and to stop panicking Post like this are the reason people freak out Miss information|0 I promise my dad has never heard the term Wu Flu Hes 75 not on the internet and not friends with anyone who is|0 I know that the uncertainty of where the virus will spread and how bad it will be can feel very scary and overwhelming It sounds like two of your biggest concerns are keeping your mother safe and making sure your family continues to have enough to eat If your family isnt concerned about covid19 then maybe you can focus on the flu and the dangers it poses to your mother The flu truly has been really bad this year and swine flu is one of the strains that is really active right nowYou can encourage your family to wash their hands before preparing your mothers food and to stay from her if theyre coughing You can encourage your niece to cough into her elbow and regularly wash her hands so that she doesnt get her grandmother sick If its possible you can try to reduce the number of germs on surfaces by cleaning and sanitizing objects that are frequently touched like faucets and doorknobsIf you cant buy a lot of food at once then maybe you can try to buy a little bit extra each time you go shopping Focus on foods that you can store for a while like beans and flour and rice|0 You had a problem with a specific country and so I removed the factor that was specific to that country by allowing a larger data set that encompasses and averages out the varying degrees of seriousness and proactivity at play in each country so we can get a look at what its doing generally regardless of any one governments actions on any given subset of the population This is exactly the opposite to what youve just stated at the end of your first paragraph80 is technically a stat yes But its a guess for the future Compared to say actual hard numbers that have already occurred Not that I deny the worth of extrapolation but its still exactly that a guess about something we dont understand so its a rough one at the very best Its also according to the press only a worst case scenario possibility as opposed to whats thought to be most likely It also has no time scale attached to it Nor any claims one way or the other regarding what the timescale of cures and treatments becoming available are or what proportion of that worst case scenario 80 infection will occur after we have those medical tools in place to make it a potentially much less serious conditionSo yes I appreciate stats but context is keyI share your concern for those that are at risk of infecting themselves and others through inaction complacency and denial I fully support calls to action to help to combat this thing in all the small personal ways as much as the larger scale ones And its in light of current ongoing efforts that these numbers get to remain no higher than they areBut I will take numbers at what they are after 3 or 4 months since people are known to have started suffering from this 00007 of the human population has died from it And Ill give that number and its trajectory over time the concern it warrants No more no less|0 Pretty sure this one is confirmed and will be announced at tomorrows press conference|1 The major is an opportunistic hypocriteFirst the state of emergency and immediately after that he authorized a convention in San Antonio with more than 15000 attendees httpswwwawpwriterorgmagazinemediawritersnewsview4683How credible is that|0 Had to take a business trip for 3 days Only bright side is the 3 states I was in had no known cases yet reportedNot much of a bright side but still|1 No its fucking conservative boomers all the way this problem wouldn be so bad it we had health care for all or housing for all fuck boomers yall never listened when it came to climate change but now that they are the most at risk yall want us to take it seriously like we aint cause most of us millennials think of other people including your old ass I hope yall die so we can vote in more socialist that will protect everyone even the elderly with social saftey nets yall refused to vote in|0 That 1 it doesnt kill is probably the COVID19|1 End of this month at the outside Beautiful tests|1 Thats what I tought but a comment answer indicated that were not sure actually although I was taught that it was a chirality issue|0 Like how every saline IV bag for the entire world was being made in Puerto Rico which is prone to catastrophic hurricanes|0 They are about to be way more down tomorrow and even worse next week Hillary is Probably relieved she didnt have to deal with this|0 To be fair 67 is a little old|1 I had these same symptoms you are describing in Januaryand theres still 0 cases in my state So I doubt it was corona because itd be widespread by now around here and its not It mustve been bronchitis I tested negative for fluSo honestly you COULD just have bronchitis 3 it knocked me on my butt with a 2 week fever and nasty cough|0 Sniped rCOVID19 and invited mods of rChinaflu and rCoronavirus to take over if they want to as they do a great job and didnt want someone with malicious intent to take it|1 Okay Not an expert but from what Ive read the tests are inaccurateunreliable because the virus is apt to settle into the lower lobes of the lungs so a nosethroat swab doesnt reach that I think this is why China moved more towards diagnostic testing ie if your lung xray exhibited telltale findings of COVID I take this to mean that in the US doctors are going by xrays first tests second Does this mean we dont already have circulating cases here No As 80 are mild enough not to need hospitalization and xrays TLDR theyre only testing those with pneumonia who are in the hospital who have xrays with tell tale signs|0 Thats odd I got a notification that I was whitelisted several days ago Oh well|0 There is definitely a bias towards negativity in this sub I commented that the virus is not deadly enough to be the end of the world and I got downvoted Itll definitely cause a disaster though|0 The nations best and brightestCertainly the nations most expensive|1 It is always easier to get a refundcredit if governments put restrictions on Wait until that happens if you want creditmoney Also if they then refuse your travel insurance should cover you unless you bought it recently if so check policy|1 Ah yes True I take it back Were stuffed arent we|1 Yes it is Google it right now guarantee you the first couple of results indicate that it is at least moderately seasonal Michael Osterholm also said it on JRE a few days ago A genuine expert on this topic|1 Only China is evil and dirty Japan is all clean and they make the anime that the average Redditor wanks off to on a daily basisSo its not news|0 I got what I could on Sunday I wasnt quite prepared financially to get as stocked as Id like to be Work really screwed me this last month to the point Im basically out of my job Though I have enough to last 2 weeks My roommates havent prepped yet but maybe theyll realize they need to get supplies when our local stores start the panic buying Theyll have to wait the long lines but thats what happens when you dont get the jump|0 Underreporting deaths is a problem though People dying at home are being just cremated and not counted towards coronavirus deaths They need to be either included as it most likely is the case or a separate category created for deaths that are suspected to be coronavirus related so the scientific community can make assessments based on that information|0 Perfectly summed up my feelings Im a meat clerk for a local chain and hearing social distancing only to be around hundreds during an 8 hour period is sparking my anxiety like crazy 2 of my children and her are high risk if they catch it so its been just a nightmare|1 freeweibocomhttpsfreeweibocom indexes deleted posts and accountsfreewechatcomhttpsfreewechatcom can be used for WeChatI am not sure if there is a direct link to greatfireorghttpsgreatfireorg but its a good starting point to find this type of informationedit not sure why all the downvotes but the site explains how it works I guess wumaos|1 Yeah Im pretty sure thats me at the moment Dry cough pretty immediate upper respiratory phlegm but no fever at all|1 No not listed so far|0 hat are the most common APPS or programs for holding online classesDo these support live lectures quest ion asking web teleconferencing or strictly prerecorded lectures|1 This is what scares me This tells me that authorities have no confidence in themselves about containing or mitigating the spread Otherwise theyd be doing that and the stock market would be acting less speculatively about it all right now|0 The fact is nobody would rent this property anymore anyways So its lost revenue at this point If we hadnt booked it nobody would have So there is zero loss to the owner If Airbnb has insurance then somebody needs to pay out They 100 should not put this on the actual property owner and that is what I am trying to get across I know you get where I am coming from|0 Those of us who are vegetarian and eat beans most days of the week are laughing|1 If I dont go to work MRI machines all over the country dont get fixed I repair motors for the cold heads on the machines Sorry I must go to work every day Millions of other Americans are part of critical infrastructure if we dont go to work Lights will turn off water wont flow hospital equipment will fail More people would die if we all stopped doing our jobs|0 That made me curious about how many presidents have ever died while in office A quick Google search gave me 4 died of natural causes and 4 were assassinated Im actually surprised that the natural causes number is that number Even odder none of them were over 70|1 Old ladies are getting beat up and cursed at in New YorkThis is such nonsense Im not even going to bother asking for a source because I know you dont have one|0 Thanks for causing good shortages|1 Why is this mod team trying to exclusively monopolize any subreddit related to the virus|0 I did a huge I Told You So dance in my parents faceThey got back at me by having a stash three times the size of mine|1 GOP complains that China hid the scope of the problem early on and failed to act Meanwhile trump brags about keeping the numbers low in the USA and has done almost no testing while the virus has been spreading within the country|0 Trump wouldnt want it anyway|0 But your dead so thats cool Cmon man Ya gotta think big picture|0 PLZ SEND HELP|1 Yep theres resources that go into that as well Some call it family cloth though I kinda think its not nearly as sanitary I should also stipulate that Ive no idea how safe homemade TP would be for your system My best guess is the safest option is to toss it in the garbage like you would a diaper Just sharing this if people are in dire straits and cant leave the housenot as like a great long term plan|1 No I am not Sorry if I was misleading I am just an XrayCT tech But I do in fact see a whole lot of pneumonia and that is very severe Hell I nearly died from viral pneumonia myself two years ago and what I had looks like nothing compared to the scan in this tweet|0 They appear to be saying that the flu mortality rate is 01 and that the best estimate of the coronavirus mortality rate is 1Edit And its a guessing game because we do not have raw numbers of infected We only know the number of positive tests but obviously many cases are mild and never tested If you just use the raw deathspositive cases mortality would be something like 35 35 times the flu 10x is a relatively conservative estimate|1 Lmao im calling itthat from now on|1 I figure anyone we stop from coming in is balanced by someone we stop from going there|0 Or that he made a human error with his PPE while treating or visiting a quarantine site|0 Good news at least|1 httpimgurcomgallery21dStI7Im on mobile so I had to crop it to remove names but this is the best I got This is for the east coast DMV area Who knows whats going on in the west coast|1 The government downplayed this way too much from the beginning Starting with masks dont provide protect to the flu is worse Im extremely upset with our federal and provincial governments response to this epidemicNo wonder BC chief medical officer Dr Bonnie Henry cried during the press conference on Saturday She knew from the outbreak at the senior care centre this will turn into a massive shit showThey keep staying public transit is safe asymptomatic transmissions are unlikely Then why are there officials in affected areas saying otherwisehttpswwwcnncom20200309usnewyorksubwaycoronavirusindexhtml How did these asymptotic tourists infect a bunch of peoplehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar09britishcouplecontractvirusonflightfromheathrowtovietnam|0 You can definetely make awesome hamburger buns even without eggs Checkout some vegan recipes and just still use butter for some nicer flavour over margarine|1 Oh buddy its likely about to get a lot more depressing|0 They left abruptly So they heard Trump wanted to slash their budget and wanted to control the CDC Thats how I see a team of experts in the top position leaving abruptly when they see the incompetence they would be dealing with for 4 years|0 Ah ok Thabk you From reading this subreddit the last couple of weeks it feels like it is R100|1 Chinas healthcare system doesnt have a well functioning primary care system Instead of making an appointment with their doctors office or a community clinic they often just go to the hospitals to see specialists even for small things like fevers and headaches On the otherhand primary care physicians in the US are an integral part of the healthcare system and function as gatekeepers to specialists The issue of treating hospitals as primary care commonly arises in the US when people dont have insurance which is the case for millions of Americans|1 Dining rooms Lol|1 Thanks for this Im practicing acceptance of my friendsfamilymyself being more stressed and anxious than normal and loving them anyway Its hard not to return a reactive comment with something similar but I think that is the definition of compassion allowing someone else to be exactly where they are at and loving them through it Tough to do at times but thats what Ill be working on|1 Second what other poster answered Finnair tried to ban those masks too but crew from Hong Kong protested and they were forced to allow them to wear masks if they prefer it|0 At least youre equipped with PPE lol But yeah quite a few people I know cant just work from home and wouldwill be struggling|1 We need to stop depending on numbers Widespread testing is never going to happen They are going to have one excuse after another They are going to stall as long as they can until our hospitals are completely overwhelmed Then its every man for himself|0 Yep at this point its just deny deny until you loose your job and then youll be kn the same page Im still working for how long idk but really would rather follow suite I mean yesterday we had 2 people test positive where I work Still obligated to work wont tell us where the sick person was at|0 Its crazy how many people in this sub dont understand this Preach|0 So your saying in twelve months time we may not have to worry about anything like stock marketprice of petrol or global warming as a good percentage of us may not be here|1 It was but the Chinese government REALLY wants to take back HK Theyve been poking at the edges of HKs autonomy ever since Britain had to give up their ownership of HK in 1997 and the current governor is trying to accelerate allowing China to take over HKs sovereigntySo technically they should be semiautonomous but its very easy to tell that a lot of that has been picked away at the past couple decades|1 I am a little broken|0 Far easier to achieve universal insurance in a country like china where rurals get shafted on seeking higher end care than in the US A huge amount of democrat infighting that killed UHC in the 1990s was whether or not to offer a comprehensive package or a skinny one|1 Nice dutch name though Pussybagbike|1 httpstimecom5742053ectopicpregnancyohioabortionbillFor some so into science he sure doesnt understand the basics of ectopic pregancies|1 Its fun that this was downvoted when its verifiably true and cited in articles from multiple publications|1 Thats is absolutely a good idea Im quarantined right now so I have a lot of extra time to worry It would be nice to have a place to discuss coping strategies with other|1 Very small evidence so far suggesting anything originally boasted It is showing they wanna do more research which is common with any disease They did the same for many forms of the flu including normal influenza and swine flu in the effects of causing sterile problems amongst a small population There have been animal models even used to see effects of influenza and fevers on sperm We cant start spreading this type of idea when the majority of people wont know how to read these papers and will take it as evidence that now they have to fear for their fertile abilities|0 Given current issues can we change the prize to a no touch high five|1 All you have to do is tell the hospital that you are refusing to be tested for the virus and if they still test for it they should cover the costs There is really nothing they can do for the virus other than give you flu meds Its not worth paying 1400 for a test If the test becomes mandatory make sure you notify them that you will not be footing the bill for the test|0 140 Patently false The risk is significantly lower in this age group The risk is not not at risk Plenty of healthy under 40 yr olds have died This is just a fact However the odds greatly favor your survival if you do fall into this age category and are free of underlying health conditions The Case fatality rate is likely around 2 for this group although I have not seen the latest crunched numbers so dont take that as gospel|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Thanks for the laugh That debt died with the French monarchy|1 We have been teaching kids that the world is going to end in 10 years because of 2 degrees C of warming for 30 years Is it any wonder people would have fatalistic reactions|0 How is that appeasing China policy working out|1 wtf|0 So my admin is going to go to Home Depot and the hardware stores and go buy them so the general public 100 should leave the masks be My elderly dad should not put a mask in his cart and pass it by so Jo Blow Johnny comes behind him and purchases that mask my dad left for a nurse anyways Are my admins going to go on Amazon and get masks now at high prices The public should leave the ones online for healthcare So my admin couldnt care less to buy these back in January when this became a crisis in China and purchase masks from a medical supply company for a reasonable price They couldnt get online a few weeks ago or go to the hardware store and pharmacies 3 weeks ago while the general public had little idea what was going on and beat the public to the masks They do understand pandemics do they not So my admin didnt care after the Ebola scare to keep lots of these on hand Im a nurse and idk this all seems sketchy I bought my own masks because admin would not when prompted Jan 26th No one cares when it was a problem for those people over there and they could not put 2 2 together that a virus would spread by people on airplanes traveling in and out over Lunar New Year holiday and the virus would be our problem too By the time they cared the masks were gone This is just a total screw up and the citizens here should not be mask shamed over it as the fallguys SMH I get daily emails from the CDC telling me the masks are for me They told the public the masks are for me Uh with no link where to get these masks for me Mmkkk thanks|0 This virus is literally hell in a cell|0 s stands for sarcasm|0 Serological testing yes|1 When hospitals get overcrowded and employees get overworked this increases risk of containment being ineffectual This is why me and my gf have both decided that should one or both of us get infected we will quarantine at home and at least be comfortable and not risk spreading to others|0 So did Hawaii But Im sure they knew the confirmed case was coming|1 Guess everyone has different experiences Was on a flight from EWR to ord and a man got sick motion sick light headed pale and they had an ambulance waiting for him at the gate and took him off the plane before everyone else Cant say he was tested or anything but precautions were taken|0 If people would have been in the streets at the doors of the justice to call fairness he wouldnt be there anymore But no America is a fucking huge country so it takes a long time to travel to DC and we cant just take the time off work to protest with the knowledge that our job will be there when we get back like people in Europe canFTFY|1 Would love to have my post approved Thanks|1 Yeah thats right prop about Canada and my experience there Axe to grind on Canadalol My doctor in NY i call I get in to see someone in a few hours|1 From the articleThe man in his 30s stood at the front left of the general admission zone during Tools concert at Spark Arena last Friday February 28|1 I mean you cant blame biotech companies for this outbreak Theyre racing to capitalize on their innovations in testing similar to what South Korean biotechs have done The bottleneck is paralysis at the CDC HHS level This article spells it out fairly clearly httpswwwpoliticocomnews20200302azarcrosshairsdelayscoronavirustests118796|1 Masks are disposable Thats how they work To get through several weeks youd need dozens and dozens of masksThere are NOT enough masks for this in local market The country that we buy them from China isnt going to be exactly in a position to sell their reserves to other countriesA mask on a sick person is n times more effective n being the number of interactions someone has in a day than it would on a healthy person So if healthy people are hoarding up on masks then when someone gets sick there isnt a mask for them to wear getting n people sick who also cant get a mask giving you nn people getting sick And this continues on and eventually the healthy people with masks start getting sick because masks only prevent direct contact If you talk to someone who is sick for an hour without changing your mask you are likely going to get sick if they dont have a mask to catch the moisture from their breath Because face masks do not filter air they only catch moisture and reduce the range of infectivity|0 Id love to see this happen but I also think the only way to do it is to cause so much of a stink that the government is simply disgraced on an international scale and even that doesnt seem to be worth much these days The government cares about big business money not the people Organize with others Create resources If the government doesnt care about its own people then itll be the people who have to care for each other|0 Fever seems to be the most prevalent symptom please correct me if Im wrongSo Id say thats a good sign Hope you feel better soon|1 Good point I guess Ive been so wrapped up in all of the news surrounding this virus for so long that all of it just sounds like old news to me I didnt join this reddit until a few weeks ago but I too have been following this since I first saw reports on a new zoonotic virus in China back in DecemberUnfortunately like youve basically said all of what weve known is new to most of the public as well as our new readers of this subreddit and giving them places to find reliable information to cut through all the bs is important I overlooked the fact that even a simple comment stating whats been obvious to a lot of us on here can go a long way in getting people to information without the political spin|1 Reddit doesnt want to have their 1000 preparations misjudged|0 There was a 2hour long press conference by Dr Bruce Alyward who travelled to Beijing and Wuhan at the behest of WHO along with about a dozen other prominent epidemiologists and virologists Excellent informationhttpsyoutubeo0q1XMRKYMDr Alyward remarked that the authorities have issued the SIXTH version of the COVID treatment guidelines generally about 1 revision per week Im trying to get a copy and hand it over to a professional translator in the US for immediate translation|1 Damn I drove over 4 of us had passports my my GF only had her ID which at the time was all you needed She also had her social secuirty cardThe US border guard gave us an endless amount of shit for her not having a Passport we were youngish and she had never travelled And you didnt have to have one either It was interesting how much trouble he gave us considering that we went entered Canada it was essentially just Hi come on in|0 Everyone who works while they still can exposes others for several days until symptoms set in|0 Its a bit more legally definable than that But any advice should probably aire on the side of caution Leading someone into danger is prosecutable|0 Fucking disgusting really Then they act like Im weird for wearing gloves |0 Absolutely One of the reasons I think were defiant of reality is because of our background as Americans Weve been sheltered from really bad events for the last 75 years and were taking it for granted|0 This is true from the employee side too nice to not have an obligation to an employer|1 Buying time is even more important than just giving governments and people time to prepare It also spreads the impact to healthcare out over a longer period meaning less likelihood of entire hospitals having to quarantine including staff less chance of supplies running out etc|1 begrudgingly some of the regional leadershipI would like to contest this claim and say that in most ways it was the regional government that fucked up with the central government being the one who had to clean up the mess in Wuhan See Beijing sacking the mayor of Wuhan and later the situation getting much better controlled You see China using my understanding of the US feds and state governments is a reverse America in some ways where the central government is very authoritarian but competent where as the regional government is corrupted at best and ancap cyberpunk heaven at worst People like to go and blame the CCP as much as if its a monolith but for an organization with hundreds of millions governing a country of more than a billion even total surveillance is difficult so shit like the Wuhan local government telling the folks at Beijing that everything is finnneee and then later causing an international fuck up that puts the entire party to blame is a common occurrence|0 Saddest think about that is that one person with coronavirus in a plane could easily infect everyone there It is a really bad place to be at during an epidemic Many people breathing in the same air for hours really close to each other|0 Why do you think that is Could it be that you import a lot of shit and work from the US Or possibly that tons of canadians and americans go to and from a lot Are you sure it isnt Canadians getting sick in America and bring it back These are all just as likely What is NOT likely is that Americans are going to canada to hide from a virus that majority of the north were saying its just the flu 3 days ago|0 They elected a moron and are trying their hardest to keep him in office they deserve to be dethroned|0 We mainly just speculate this but have no proof of such claims There are more countries with such stance I think Morocco is one of them too|0 Try youre over reacting Im not going to stop living my life My immunocompromised girlfriendI really hope shes right|1 This exactly Already in a lot of places Lol|1 I will ugly cry for both of them |0 That is good to hear Thanks for your reply And keep strong |1 What I intended but also desired to convey their secrecy thus the portmanteau and neologism|1 This is the action we need I hope others get on board as well|1 Well this is surely a humanitarian move for China however we should know the reason behind all these actions China had suppressed the information of this virus back in DEC prosecuting people who spread the information of disease online in order to keep it a secret They are doing these kind actions now just to distract the world from blaming them for the slow irresponsible actions at the begin of the outbreak so that their National Image wont be damaged Had China faced the virus actively at the start there wont be the need of such kind actions nor the great damage the virus has done to the world|1 Coronavirus virologist Roberto Burioni attacks Pope Francis A mistake reopening the churches14032020 1151The reopening of the churches in Rome commissioned by Pope Bergoglio is a bad idea I am sure that God wants everyone to pray from home Virologist Roberto Burioni wrote it on twitter In fact the decision of the Diocese of Rome to close all the churches of the capital due to Coronavirus lasted a short night Cardinal Angelo De Donatis on Friday gave the green light to the reopening With an unprecedented decision we consulted our bishop Pope Francis we published on March 12 the decree that fixed the closure for three weeks but a further confrontation with the Pope has prompted us to consider another need that since the closure of our churches other little ones have no reason of disorientation and confusion The risk for people is to feel even more isolated explained the prelate Hence the new decree which contains the indication to leave open only the parish churches and those that are the headquarters of missions with care of souls and equated|0 I cant people are just brushing it asidedont care about it because they are fit and healthy so its not going to effect them as bad|1 Are flu tests and COVID19 tests being run by the same labs and thus increasing capacity to test for one means reducing testing for the other Might explain the spikehttpswwwinfectioncontroltodaycomcoronaviruscdcseekstestsomeflusymptomscovid19Might have to find data for a city not covered by one of the mentioned labs in that article for the same time period to confirm|0 He kissed and shook hands as they exited the boatWe just might see the end of a dictator|1 Certainly not a black or white issue|1 Well I saw some things that made me happy1 Clinical trials2 Trials vs control3 Old drug so lots of data on it in humans4 People who took the drug had better outcomes than people who didntDont know if it was a randomized doubleblind study so Im hesitant to say breakthrough but this looks promising Then again n100 Hopefully other hospitals will adopt this therapy and study the data This does give me some hope though|1 Buy as many ventilators as you like still need competent medical professionals to operate them|1 Ebola had a much higher fatality rate of around 50 This would palay a part in the ethical decision of when a trial vaccine can be used|0 But if I understand it correctly it is untaxed and the people who are working from home get 100 taxed pay which probably equals out to about the same if not less than 66|0 I work at a grocery chain we cant wear mask or gloves Forget about sick leave |0 Too bad Trudeau is a fuck|0 if it comes to vote i am voting YES|1 The most closest comparison is 1918 Spanish Flu But this is not a normal seasonal Flu Its an extremely infectious pandemic flu which claims 50 million death worldwide and about 675000 occurring in the United States The current coronavirus is very likely kill 1 million people in US surpassing Spanish Flu Think about about it Trumps tweet|0 Its so sad Just cause theyre in a nursing home doesnt mean they dont have families I know when my grandma was in a nursing home with alzheimers we visited 3 times a week Its very selfish of people to say that its not bad cause it only affects old people|0 I actually came back to this Dark man Super duper dark Let the black humour begin Ring around the Rosie and all that|1 Lol I bet the majority of the US ones are still going to go ahead|1 Italy have taken far more care than the UK to slow this down yet 368 people died of Covid19 there today their hospitals are overwhelmed they have run out of ambulances and they cant copeWithout drastic measures this will grow incredibly quickly increasing 1015 times a month Our NHS cant cope with that plus the more people who have it the more risk that it will mutate increasing the chance that it will affect young and old alike and be more resilient to vaccinesWe need time to find solutions not cull the population|1 I will be messaging you in 1 day on 20200307 131818 UTChttpwwwwolframalphacominputi202003072013181820UTC20To20Local20Time to remind you of this linkhttpsnpredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfdumzckidinmytownreturningfromitalytripwasfjjwlljcontext34 OTHERS CLICKED THIS 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With all the delivery apps now there really isnt a need to ever leave the house unless its for a medical issue so I dont feel like there is any excuse for this And please if anyone reads this who gets quarantined and uses a delivery service just post a note saying to leave whatever it is by the door and for them to not touch anything due to quarantine Hopefully there wont be a need to expose the delivery person to anything as they should all accept payment electronically|1 Most of this type of virus will only survive for a maximum of 10 days outside of a host so of you have 12 N95equivalent or better masks marked to enable differentiation and use them for one day and rotate between them you should have a supply of masks for 60 days or more|1 Thats weird Ive read a bunch of people saying Costco is sold out and swamped but Ive been to Safeway and Trader Joes in the past two days and it was totally normal Tons of rice beans paper products canned goods So I guess if youre having trouble getting what you need dont go to Costco|0 Agree Couldnt they convene virtually and vote |1 That looks less impressiveI wonder how France and Germany are doing I seem to recall seeing France had 1412 positive cases from something like 1415 tests|1 I hope for only that Although that it is extremely doubtful it will only be that long|1 Meanwhile over here in Germany some guys broke into a retirment home and no they did not steal the drugs they stole the supply of virostatic sanitizer because its so damn sold out and everyone is so paranoid that its right now more profitable than grannys happy pills|0 Its a joke because his name is Chang Kai so one shek and he is Chang Kai shek aka fighter against mao and probly not well looked upon in modern China because reasons|1 Wow I could swear I remember this happening about 6 years ago I even stopped listening to NPR because of it But if it did happen all record of it is wiped from Google I stand corrected after doing some research Thank you for questioning my claim|1 So far it has 20 hospitalization rate 5 intensive care rate 2 death rate Which is hugeBut as seen in Hubei once all the hospital beds are full and no more people can get helped with oxygen that 20 might as well be the death rate|0 If theyre symptomatic Im not sympathetic|0 They donwnvote me because theres some false belief that newspapers used to be bastions of truth in the past and got corrupted They werent you can go down even as far as the french revolution and the papers were always biased agenda pushing misinformed prints Its much harder going back further than that because there are no consisten copies and most media was state owned before french revolutionIf you want something closer to home look at the american revolution Both the british and the american pring was full of biased misinformation and outright liesThere was this even in boston if i recall correctly A group of english soldiers were surounded by the american colonists The local press stated the brits opened fire on the crowd The british press stated someone from the crowd shot at them and they started firing back Both were incorrect as it turned out in a nearby street someone was cleaning a gun and had a misfire both sides were spooked by the sound of a gun and though the fire was opened on them and began returning fire but of course the papers at the time did not want to write that so you end up finding that in private journals of bystanders instead|0 Ugh sounds harsh Thanks for the answer and for doing this AMA Wishing you all the best|1 Her edit some info so this doesnt get taken out of context lady was sitting on a narrow stairwell with a mask on man walking up is obstructed by her sees that shes wearing a mask and starts calling her a diseased bitch He gets up in her face when she doesnt respond and tries to intimidate her she tells him to go away and he hits her head extremely hard before leaving the station I started recording after that in an attempt to get his face no one stepped in as she was getting beaten with an umbrella until I pulled him off he ran out of the station shortly after|0 How true is drinking a lot of water would make the surface of your throat slippery enough for the virus not to cling onto your throat and directly slip to the stomach and be killed by the stomach acids I heard it from the Secretary of Health from the Philippines I firmly do not believe that it could just slip like a baby on a slide|0 A coughing fit|1 Thats not great news especially when everyone is using only 14 days as their quarantine time|0 The goal is to avoid delay a global panicFTFY|0 The UK has not stopped testing They increased testing to 10000 and per day they tested 50000 by Saturday|1 Exactly Theyll cancel operations that require ICU afterwards might be a big issue for those requiring those operations but they wouldnt want to be in that vulnerable state during an outbreak but even then they wont cope I suppose that we also dont want to double count in that some of the people in ICU will be just the kind of people who would have a sever infection Think of all those people in care homes wholl most likely suffer here Theres no way governments are going to prioritise them|0 My problem with this is that religious officials are misleading a vulnerable communityThis is what religion basically does Not an attack just a factWithout the vulnerable religion would cease to exist|0 You dont consider Ben Carson competent|1 Ive got a big arse so the kitchen roll on the right is better |1 This is awesome The one thing Im wanting for in any chart is age demographics and preexisting conditions|1 I know somebody who works in health and their experience with other infectious diseases is that they are fed up getting a whole school wanting tests every time one pupil gets something infectious Contact tracing and quarantine may be almost our only weapon here but getting swamped with more contacts than they can feasibly handle doesnt help|0 Claming that in the video they say 9 deaths in 5 mins is not being emotional It is spreading lies and panic I have no empathy for people acting that way I have respect and emphaty for people experiencing this not for people who lies and then says this is even bigger than we imagined we are all gonna die bullshit They are just trying to prove their conspiracy theories nothing more|0 I agree wholeheartedly with your 2nd point If anything its an exercise to think through emergencies and what needs to be done and is realistic to accomplish|1 Sure the goal is not containment at this point it is managing the disease It will not be the same situation going forward If you can slow it down to the point where it doesnt overwhelm the healthcare system you can at least treat everyone have a more manageable situation|1 As a New York Resident I can honeslty say Ive been impressed by Cuomos actions so far Including my seemingly unpopular opinion sanitizer productions from prison work programs was innovate and ingenious|1 That rbc analyst is an idiot He bases his pessimism on the fact that Remdesivir was not very effective against Ebola even though these are two completely different virus families altogetherThis is what happens when you have clueless layman cover technical fields|0 Hopefully renewed practices of taking better care of the health of people next to you and yourself ie more remote work more acknowlegement to not go out while even mildly sick more handwashing and sanitizingProbably life will go on as before once there is a reliable quick way of diagnosing and a medication protocol in place for athome care that eliminates most of the severe cases and minimizes chances of it evolving into omgitsgonnakillyounowpneumonia|1 Also keeps the boss away from the office I call that a win|1 If watching someone being a twat makes one act like a twat maybe it points to a separate issue Super market should have 4 isles worth of TP Pasta UHT milk That is a correct response I mean people werent being twat a week back Its self preservation which is kicking in|0 Nice|1 why would they wait until sunday the 2 days left open are gonna be a disaster for fuck sake get over your greed and think about peoples health that being said people who still want to go deserve to be infected|0 So whe dont know if it helps or hurts but its tremendously important|1 Oh no I just flew home to Canada from the UK because their crazy strategy freaked me out too much to stay there But its good that youre there to take care of your mom and can stay indoors Best of luck to you|1 People arent taking it seriously So wheres the toilet paper Problem is that people take it seriously in the wrong way We shouldnt panic we should just be aware and careful of spreading it|0 Yeah rent is a really tricky one because the private landlords who are using the money to pay their own mortgages are going to be reluctant to not pay But if people dont have an income then its not like they can just rent to someone else instead Something has to give there for sure|0 This is true I wonder what Italy is doing or Japan I know 2 teachers and if it gets bad they are gone and I dont think that is abnormal I cant see any solution Teachers are not going to stay maybe parents can volunteer I dont know enough about the societies in Japan South Korea and Italy Chinas way is not an answerI think people should start to think about it After those countries have tried so hardcan we really just let it take its course|0 I dont see how with all the people hes been in contact with testing positive that he cant be sick|1 I love your post so much I agree with youI do believe that on the other side of this we can all be better people if we so choose and we can start right now|1 Well the OP is also a preprint and therefore not peer reviewed Also neither I nor those authors are making a claim other than we dont know yet|1 Here come your downvotes Reddit is determined to be panicked over this thing no matter what Every thread of good news is immediately bombarded with supposed counterpoints and then buried Kids are not getting very sick from this and that should be celebrated|1 Our government needs to step up and start cancelling events Major sports should be cancelled as well|0 Thia info was out a week or so ago I sent it to my representative and said they need to consider that group in the vulnerabletake extra precautions Of course they dont give a shit and havent done anything they still say its only droplet infection and asymptomatic is 12 days|1 Im guessing you work an office jobLets see what food service does not do and watch how dangerous that will be|0 Somebody help this man|1 Ford and his officials at his press conference this morning were practicing social distancinghttpsi2wpcommediaglobalnewscavideostaticnewsi09qd5kdoxta9ntnjis3DougFordTHumber1jpgw670quality70stripall unlike Trump and his officials at theirshttpswwwnydailynewscomresizerIeQ88Gp0tt8oqYdBOL6C6sxDja8415x281toparcanglerfisharc2prodtroncs3amazonawscompublic47SIGYHWC5GIDF2U7ZSALRWHXYjpg so good on Ford|1 EVERY genome thats sequenced and has at least one mutation can be considered a strain The reason you delineate such things is because of some clinical or epidemiological significance That was not demonstrated here|1 Obese and overweight people are actually MORE likely to survive pneumoniahttpswwweurekalertorgpubreleases201805eaftoao052318phpObesity has a huge impact on heart disease and the like but thats not a factor here|1 medical is thai pround and respect but govment use this event for politic movent and profit that all i know so far|1 I want to cry So simple these poems but so beautiful|1 Thats kind of all you can do is decide to make the safest choice for you and your family Tell them what youre worried about one last time and tell them you wont remind them again Then you focus on you and your family What works for me is whenever I am worried about someone I try to do something practical to prepare to help them later if I can So if youre worrying and freaking out start setting up a care package for each household that you worry might be affected Start brainstorming a plan for how you would help each household IF they did catch it|0 Trust me I understand Watching it on a loop was making me loopy Distracting myself with other things hasnt cured me but it has helped me think more clearly about how I can help myselfSo what CAN you do What is the smallest first step you can take Do thatIf you cant think clearly then call mental health triage They can advise you|1 Not for the lack of trying|1 Im ready My t rip to wally world at lunch was more for supplies I can give to friends and family I work in a company with sales people who are constantly flying in and out of major hubs on the way to and from jobs Though our shows are starting to get cancelled so that might ends soon Regardless glad Im ready hope you are too|1 Trump will never show humility defer to experts or extend an olive branch I hope it kills him so that at the very least he cant be causing more panic and confusion Dont get me wrong pence is a piece of shit but at least hes able to string a sentence together|0 Why does nobody listen to the WHO They are still saying it can be stopped South Korea is an open democracy and stopped theirs starting from an outbreak way worse than ours Other East Asian democracies have stopped it even before it got that bad eg Taiwan Sure Canada is not directly comparable to those countries but some of the ways were different actually act in our favor such as lower population densityThe wave of fatalism right now is driving me batty|0 the uniform made sure the patient kept their distance because they did not want to get hit by the beak this obviuosly decreased transmissibility|1 One can hope|1 I am rather referring to the hanging part A minimal amount of research would clearly tell you that the death sentence in China would only be carried out through shooting or lethal injectionhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCapitalpunishmentinChinaExecutionsprocedure The two cases you attached here are really wellknown in China for their controversy The first one annihilated the Chinese dairy industry for the next ten years The second one on the other hand is a political mass and is highly suspected to be a CCP coverup attemptAs for if the one who held responsible for this would get a death sentence it is possible by law but we dont know for sure because the death toll was not finalized yet Chinese judicial system seemed to be more hesitant for signing off death penalty confirmations for nonviolent crimes right now My best bet is that he might get one with reprieve which is actually equal to life in prisonIronically both suspects in the cases were executed by gunshot NOT hanging sourcehttpwwwchinanewscomgnnews200911241981693shtmlsourcehttpszhwikipediaorgwikiE69BBEE68890E69DB0E6A188|0 Well to be fair the local hospital here got all its pulse oximeters from Amazon|1 Thanks m8|1 Ya we can test a handful of people each week Meanwhile places like South Korea manage to test thousands Go USA|1 In times of crisis a good community is your best defence Read up on the Syrian Civil War and how the best off communities banded together|1 Do we hate the American government for doing the same Getting good PR and helping out other countries Hypocrite much|1 Problem is u cant make ventilators and masks fast enough to make a difference Testing doesnt really help at this point either except to scare people into distancing|0 I disagree that Is your job deal with reality and help Otherwise you are a coward|0 the REAL reason they dont want us to wear them is because everyone bought them out And medical professionals were running low They figured will we can just buy them in the stores when they didnt have enough even though that is NOT how they usually obtain them Then they got to the stores and realized us normies bought them up So they got pissed and said they dont help yall anyway When they should have not LIED and just said hey we were not prepared for this and are running low and need the ones you have please|0 The welding door shut is done by the hyper suspicious neighbours of those who recently returned home from somewhere else similar to villagers erecting brick walls around their own homes and community Not something the nation itself endorsedGive the lockdown some credits It actually slowed the spread and bought time for other countries to react Italy has also locked down and I dont hear people blasting Italy for their similar tacticThis is a tough time that requires tough decisions Be a bit more fair to the countries that actually went far and wide|1 And the weed stores If they really do shut it down like in Italy there wont be mail or deliveries for anything either No Amazon or anything elseEdit Eh now Im not sure I read one site that said no mail or deliveries I read another that said Italys postal service still works|0 If these numbers continue the virus will die down in a few weeks|0 Pretty sure dudes just trollin|1 Well Washington states XFL game had a confirmed case of COVID19 but it was just someone working food concessions at the game Nothing to worry about s|1 Disagree I dont think this will cause massive lasting damage but obviously no one knows Positive to see Koreas numbers drop so farFew months I dont think anyone will be worried anymore Ppl got short attentions Who knows tho|0 Agreed|1 Shes right about the testing Just look at the Corona Virus Mortality of 11 patients in the US If were looking at a mortality rate of 1 percent then there would be 1100 cases total Given that the CDC has identified 200 cases as of March 5th the CDC is missing the big picture and putting all of us in the States at risk|0 Thats interesting Ill be keeping an eye on this I usually take ibuprofen because I suffer various muscle issues and it normally helps but Ill move away from it if Im showing symptoms|0 A virus that kills people and economics continues to be the big concern I just dont get it|0 and yet most people believe their bullshit|0 Paying taxes would be a nice start|1 want do know more about German situation|1 Yeah But remember that there are two sides to that coin Any random yearly version of the flu could easily cause another 1918 if it were newnovel to humans The reason that doesnt happen is because even with years worth of mutations your immune systems still have a good idea about what they are fighting and are at least somewhat ready Meaning milder and shorter illnesses The same thing will happen with this its just going to be a rough first run through If we are lucky well just end up with a 5th coronavirus cause of colds if not a new seasonal flu level illness at least for a few years|1 Nice try cam boy|1 I saw a news report on a woman getting robbed The thief went for the masks the woman had bought earlier and left leaving all the money Lol|0 Yeah thats why Im more afraid of the panic this virus causes more than the virus itself which is why the fearmongering is so enraging|0 You might be fishing for the woke response with that but uh idt youll like the results of the vote on letting known carriers of a very contagious new virus into the country right now better safe than sorry Quarantine everyone where they are and they can come back whenif they get better Im sure they have video chat in Malaysia should be fine|1 Happy cake day|1 American is jam packed with people who only believe how serious it is once theyve seen it in person or its effected them|0 Ignore the 10 second thing though That part is false and really wont tell you anything|0 still broke still no money for this|0 Good for Korea Japan needed to do this weeks ago and stop arrivals from mainland China|1 Karens hate him|0 Just the cost of doing FREEDOM|1 So less critical and less serious Whats going on in here|0 Its a beautiful town if youve never visited it or climbed the steps of the cathedral|1 Its not a bad news The cases have been there for a long time and you just need more tests to find them all|1 if youre willing to pay for it the price is right thats how economics works demand up price up|0 It almost seems like the news stations who like the president are making it seem like hes doing a lot for nothing while the ones who dont like him want to make it seem like hes playing a fiddle while the world endsIm sorry but he called the virus a hoax as recently as last week You cant exaggerate just how terrible his handling has beenHe tried to keep a cruise ship from docking in order to keep numbers artificially low He had to be overruled by his own administration to avoid creating a serious situation simply because he was concerned about looking good in the short term I defy you to call this anything but malicious incompetence|0 This is exactly what happened to me on Jan 30th I was stunned when me and my CH wife arrived at SFO and they werent screening at all Makes me a bit nervous Anyway thanks for this report youre raising awareness and thats great|1 Yes and China Some European countries have also ramped up testingSome countries dont because they dont have the means or because they dont like the political fallout After all high numbers scare people Some reason that sticking your head in the sand is a better strategyUntil of course their healthcare systems get caught unawares|1 Im concerned about that study because it only mentioned that it was safe for African Americans with G6PD deficiency The Mediterranean varient is different|1 I was wondering when utilitarian ethics would come into play|1 I cant believe I had to scroll down this far to read the bleeding obvious Who are these people that are buying the exhaustion line Good lord|1 My family and I have had to move out in the middle of this pandemic because of a stubborn boomer dad whos mantra is its just a flue just watch nothing is going to happen|0 Most people still arent wearing masks in publicPanic buying is putting large numbers of people in close proximity as they try to relieve their fears through shoppingA great many jobs are forcing their employees to come into workMany employees live paycheck to paycheck and risk losing their income either by being fired or simply by being unpaid on sick leave this will make most people destituteMost state and local governments are reluctant to force closures Some school closures in some states in many nothing is being doneA portion of the country is literally in denial about the risks and are intentionally engaging in risky activity to flaunt their beliefTesting is still extremely sparse and for most people unobtainableMost medical institutions simply arent prepared to handle what is coming Their material stocks will not lastThe government is woefully unprepared to provide emergency supplies Only 10000 ventilators in reserves The government is only just now beginning to enact emergency production requirements which might help|0 Well you folks voted for Conservatives What did you expect|1 No because im a healthy adult at low risk Its not a concern|0 Plus the numbers seem to be generally in like with the S Korea and Italy numbers as well So unless EVERYTHING is a conspiracy I think most people could place some faith in Chinas numbers|1 So irresponsible what dicks|0 Lets do this for the entire world Excellent Can we do the same with bailouts of all kinds|1 This is me I feel like I would rather catch it before the hospitals are overwhelmed but the whole situation feels surreal to me|1 I wonder how many of these fewer confirmed cases is due to the revised definition that theyre using Are the numbers of suspected cases and people under quarantinesupervision out yet|0 Too bad its not sparking support in the ballot boxes|0 Please be civil Its rude vulgar or offensive|0 No it was a major turning point People dont understand that the CCP actually gave concessions and tried to meet the demands of the protestors The protest was more or less tolerated for a long time Local troops refused to attack the protestorsAfter that day protests were squashed dissent was squashed and the government took a far more draconian route|0 Well weve passed the number of infected for swine flu Speaking for myself Ive never seen containment measures from governments on the scale we are seeing with Covid19 Its also a new virus so important details like how it gets spread how fast it gets spread what the potential severity of the symptomsthe public and experts are finding it out together in real time as it unfolds Thats differentDelete my swine flu comment since I am wrong and I can admit it I saw a thingy on the internet that showed Covid19 passing other viruses like MERS and swine flu and I didnt look closely enough at the details|0 Just get prepared man get a guns get food protect yourself and family if it applies and do what you can to survive I know that Im not letting anybody touch my family without a fight I will die on my feet rather than live on my knees The corona virus is worse than theyre telling is and they want no documentation of it Thats why theres no tests Theyre knowingly letting it spreadBe aware man If you want soemthing to listen to or learn more go here bannedvideoand here infowarscom|1 See this just reminds me of the good ole drowning man jokeA man is struggling in the middle of a lake He prays to God to save him A boat comes up and the captain says to the man Do you need some helpThe man replies no no God will save me So the boat drives offA second boat comes by Here grab this rope No thanks God will save meA third boat comes by This is your last chance Do you need some helpNo God will save meThe man drowns and goes to heaven God why didnt you save meI sent three boats What happened to that|1 Have you been here the last three years Expecting consequences at this point is wasted energy|0 If you have NO symptoms then you dont have it Simple as that|0 The diagram is saying T and C but everyone is saying L and S What am I missing|0 Well I wouldnt wish this on anyone What an aweful thing for you to say Thats demonic and monstrous you cant hold people accountable for saying its just a flu because you werent listened to Thats not right A lot of people would blow this off because the media is a shit show and has been for a long time and so people stopped believing it Thats not their fault its the medias fault So how dare you wish that on anyone|0 WOW thank you for sharing I am in NY and today my husband and I made the same choice Havent told the school yet though Was hoping that we would have some more test results today|1 Here is to hoping everyone stays healthy|1 That and if they never lifted the ban on wildlife trade life would probably look different right now|1 Great thank you|1 Lol ok Youll learn how it all works one day|1 Still got my ski bum do on Havent cut it since just before thanksgiving Longest Ive let it go in 40 years Guess itll be 70s long by the time this mess is done |0 That might put them ahead of the competition and who knows maybe that advantage could cause them to edge out the competition and oh my God Demolition Man was right|1 Unfortunately whether or not we were the ones perpetuating it|0 They have no idea if he had coronavirus so they can not say he died from it It is not a confirmed death because it was not a confirmed case|1 This is testing bias It is not a 37600 growth It just means all of a sudden they were testing for it Obviously 9 days ago hundred of people were already infected in Italy|0 And your lovely USA led by a demented cheeto bowl face planter where the majority of people do not have medical cover and is a country where people have preexisting conditions rather than a medical condition is a utopia Fuck right off|1 Its pretty easy to fit and test a respirator at home|1 I got my p95 mask with 4 extra filters yesterday They were sold out of the surgical masks and p100 at Home Depot while I was there anyway and Im currently in a state which has zero confirmed cases of coronavirus Im gonna buy a bunch of canned food today Would the P100 be better than the P95 Or are they the same for thisWhat else should I get Some OTC immune medicine or something Should I stock up on bottled water Anything else TIA|1 The army wouldnt take over a major Chinese City Except they didThe military didnt take over a city they took control of medical supply distribution in Wuhan which is typical of any large scale disaster anywhere in the world Those trucks that officially werent there until they did and we STILL dont have a 100 answer on what they sprayWhat does this even mean People being welded into their appartments dragged to quarantine camps and shoved into boxesThis has been corroborated The capital of China is under curfew FFS And of course curfew is somehow different than quarantineThis is very different than quarantine Nobody is allowed to leave Wuhan at all Beijing has banned large public gatherings and nonessential businesses like bars People are temp scanned when leaving residential buildings However people can leave Beijing and go out in public and whatever There are videos of people just dropping dead in the streets too many videos to think they would somehow all be fakedPeople die all the time Some people die in public Is this related to Th e Coronavirus Maybe maybe not However based on international case data the disease does not present this way like you are fine and then in an instant you are sprawled out on the groundFinally with respect to your original post the plural of anecdote is not evidence|0 Confirmed idk but many must have been confirmed after onset of symptoms|0 Do some reading on political manipulation and keeping the public confused Trump posting craziness on Twitter then the a matter of fact we are so helpful and transparent leaders front postTrump talking All by designNotice the press picked up on the totally different tones of Trumps tweets and how Pence was They called them out on it They deflectedI think people are very aware of the horrible handling of this entire situation and all the propaganda and manipulation tactics are being seen throughIf they can delay things long enough everyones attention will be elsewhere as the virus spreads They screwed up big time it could cost America many many lives I hope people do not forget the lack of response or leadership from the beginningAbove is just my opinion I hate politics and dont watch the news This whole thing has been crazy to watch|0 Cool and good to hear|1 I believe the guy Dr Yang is totally legitimate and is trying to help the Covid19 victim Doctor or Physicians Asst from NJ Twitter verification is completely worthless IMHOScams are usually heres some terrible situation send moneyThe gist of what hes asking for is theres a dying patient heres what weve done for him what were doing isnt working can anybody get me in touch with the right people from the drug companies fast have them call me and does anybody have an idea on how to treat this case before the patient is deadVery unscammy in my opinion|0 Taiwan et al did well BECAUSE they do not trust China whatsoever When China finally 3 months later came out and admitted theres a virus in Wuhan Taiwan and the others knew it must be really bad for them to come forwards We should all be outraged at the CCP primarily but also at our own governments of the last 30 years who let this happen All the outsourcing to save a few pennies resulted in China having us by the balls Now theyre threatening to cut off medical supplies to the US And theres almost zero domestic production Oops|0 I think those in power have A Are so incompetent they are letting us die B Planned for half of us to die a long time ago|0 Any percentage on that permanent lung damage figure|0 Density is the heavier cohort when predicting outcomes That has been clear from the beggining|1 Lmao my school thinks shutting down school until March 27 will do the trick and this is in the Bay Area with 120 cases Its like they want us to get sick|1 You arent thinking very hard about it then Theres an obvious fellow with a name Conveniently he also controls the CDC|1 My friends are all still going on a trip this weekend and I chose to not partake I tried to reason with them but none of them seem to care Its so frustrating|1 It can which is the point There are people who will be contagious but possibly y show no symptoms at all or nothing worse or distinguishable from the flu We arent testing people who could have it because they havent been to Wuhan|0 People dont get it a second time Viruses dont do thatSure they do People can get chicken pox and mono several times No one is claiming that having norovirus once makes you immune to other versions There have been many studies of people catching the common coldhttpswwwnytimescom20180309welllivecanicatchthesamecoldtwicehtml multiple times in a controlled environment that suggests that it was the same cold Immune suppression can cause your body not to make sufficient antibodies or you can catch a mutated version of the virus thats different enough to make the antibodies not work|1 Yeah I dont claim to be a statistician but I feel like charting something like a viral outbreak using only confirmed cases along with such a small sample size can only take you so far It seems like itll be a good while before we truly will know how extensive the infection rates got|1 The woman who studies at Western University made a full recoverywithin two to three daysPretty quick recovery thats a good sign|1 Closing our border and stopping flights would have done nothing With the amount of unguarded coastline we have were not really the type of country that can lock up tight lol There is a lot of ship traffic out there Or were they supposed to suspend all trade as wellYa that wouldve been real intelligent Lock up the borders then have hundreds maybe thousands of smuggled in people landing on secluded beaches and walking out into Canada with absolutely no way to track them That wouldve worked out real well sIf it wasnt so serious it would be comical seeing how irrational some people have become over the last while|0 Who cares That show sucks|1 TP rice pasta spag sauce flour frozen veggies already have a good amount of vitamins antiinflams meats7 gallons of home brew in the kegerator and 5 gallons of wine in the fermenter|1 Plot it on a logarithmic scale to see if it follows a slanting slope or not or an a graph with roughly 5K or any measurement as scale of Yaxis I saw something about this Draw a logistic curve with the start of the curve of the original curve i think if the slope of the curve starts to stay constant that is where you would find the inflection point which is when the logistic curve starts to slope downwards This could be the slowing down of the spread of the virus however i have no imagination and absolutely cannot stop procrastinating so i havent tried it out I heard this somewhere on youtube like maybe a week ago from some Pi character guy i cannot find now Hope this is correct and helps i dunno|1 I have an idea the best idea people are telling be walk up to poor people and cough into their open mouths I think it will work I think it will bump the markets Good Stocks Best Stocks Stocks|1 Thats called fourstage triage and its a necessary evil Its also used in mass casualty events and natural disasters|0 Sadly youre so right So much of surgical inpatient care is frequent flier noncomps|1 Exactly this Theyre jumping for joy with this virus social cleansing of the population thay costs them the most but just after they used them all for their ill gotten votes Then they will swoop in and follow the steps theyve been told to follow for weeks and the remainder will be a brainwashed bunch of kids who think the government saved themDo I get an extra big tin foil hat|1 Theres no way without imposing martial law People are going to run out of money We have a few weeks at best before people are just going to take their chances|1 no lol just the benefits|1 Aside from being able to notify others about possible contact people who test positive might be eligible for disability different rules about paid leave and more understanding from their employers or school if they decide to stay home for two weeksThe more tests the more data we have about the virus ability to spread its effect on different age groups its symptoms or lack thereof and for how long people are contagious before during and after showing symptoms Were basically refusing to collect data that can help us learn more every time we refuse to test someone|0 Wow no wonder we had 300k new subscribers in the last day Went from 200k to over 500k almost overnight|1 Swine flu and spanish flu were not the same type of H1N1 though as thats a whole subfamily of virus which includes a lot of them including avian flu Your last statement is ignorant at best and a flat out lie at worst|0 in rdankmemes i think it was probably gen zers who said in a post comments section that people are hyping up this virus too much and that the flu is worse than Covid19|0 whats the point if u quarantine and dont stop people from going out to lunch and clubbing Quarantine absolutely means house arrest|0 If thats true containment for the US at least is too late|1 hahaha sure they wont|1 Sorry that I find my well being more important And youre so fucking stupid because you make it look like you give more about others than yourself If you had the choice of you getting it or your grandma under the assumption shes alive who would you choose to get it You or her|1 Your argument is that if you have Illness A you cannot possibly have Illness B Thats deeply flawedpeople get concurrent illnesses all the time so having one confirmed does not rule out the other Aside from that I agree with your point that people get a little hypochondriac about stuff like this which can overwhelm the system and take tests away from people who are more likely to have it If only we were better prepared if only we had just used the WHO test kits from the start if only the federal government actually met its own deadline for rolling out millions of tests The countries that are testing as many people as possible regardless of symptoms are showing a much lower fatality rate see S Korea for example|0 I do hope that theres some proper social distancing done soon because even f Im right theres a tipping point past which it doesnt matter anymore and the law of large numbers starts to take over|1 Heres thats called Marshall law Scary stuff|0 I didnt insult the guy and I wasnt saying that I envy him for having free time Im trying to understand the point he was making because it made no logical sense that simply because he has free time that everyone does For all you know social justice warrior white knight he could suffer from crippling depression or has some mental disorder and is otherwise physically perfectly fineI shouldnt even entertain this train of thought because of your overreaction but even people whose legs dont work still live perfectly fulfilling lives if they so have the desire to in spite of the added difficulties and dont always want your pity lord knows nobody NEEDS pity or to be treated any differently than anyone else No need to be a self righteous asshole about my post unless you yourself have a physical impairment and took what I said personally for some reason I dont care if Im a fucker or not I guess Im just a fucker Youre a fucker too Lets be fuckers togetherIn which case I still feel for you if you are emotionally messed up because your body is impairedAnyways hes trying to say that we should have all of the free time in the world because he does due to his impairment How can he apply his personal circumstances to set the standards of free time for everyone else It doesnt matter what his personal circumstances are that grant him the free time Youre missing the point and getting offended for no reason him being on disability couldve been replaced with anything else and Id be asking the same questionGranted I do agree that literally everyone can take a half hour of their time to google this shit andor check a source like Reddit even from their phones while at work or doing other things but not everyone is very discerning of information on current events or else public opinion on most things wouldnt be so fragmented as it is|0 Read something about its possible that COVID19 affects asian men worse due to an ACE2 receptor or something But maybe Im wrong|0 Ive been following since day 1 and the last thing I would do is trust the paranoid cult mentality that is being bred on this sub and elsewhere Everyone working each other up the conspiracy theories getting more outlandish the disinfo more dangerous The users of this subreddit and those like them are the biggest threat to the public right now aside from the virus as you are causing panic|0 What a shitty way to start life|0 u serious bro lol you are dumb a rocks|0 Whats to be alarmed about If you feel threatened put a mask on and selfquarantine Dont blame it on the government blame it on yourself|0 i believe we are already in the recession the problem is we cant call it one until we see 2 quarters of negative GDP growthsupply chains began disruption in late January Companies with average inventory turnover rates over 10 will start feeling the pain in march keep an eye on electronics hardware companiesim watching the shelves on best buy to see if things start stocking out then we know were in for a world of pain|0 God damnit why didnt the US have the balls to do this|0 Sorry to hear Best of luck to your family|1 Wtf|0 Look everyone should be wearing maskes just like everyone should be tested Unfortunately the production and distribution are not there So yes the push to not wear masks for those that have them is stupid Unless you can conjure up a couple billion of them complaining about it does not do anythingsidenoteSurgical masks really do not last that long as the moisture from your breath makes them soggy This is why the cup respirators last for a long time more area for the water to go and evaporate from|0 Grew up in Europe can confirm It was an interesting change in my habits when I moved to a suburban corner of the US and then a decade later to the boonies Then again we live in earthquake and wildfire country which also mean power shut offs so over the years weve learned to stock up We have about a months worth of food at any time for all three of us|1 Sure it will absolutely level off when there is nobody left to infect or when containment measures start working|1 There could be a rather large shift in the demographic in the coming year Mandate is definitely gone|1 If you have the virus you might not know right away Some people dont show symptoms immediately so they probs arent wearing a mask Then others can get infected and not know it until they show symptoms all the while not wearing masks I feel like its OK to wear on public transport at the very least Something is better than nothing|1 This is why Im still terrified of the virus it seems they dont know everything about it And the things they do know I feel they arent telling us everything|0 Here are sources for the text shown in the posted image20200105 httpswwwwhointcsrdon05january2020pneumoniaofunkowncausechinaen WHO risk assessment There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology The reported link to a wholesale fish and live animal market could indicate an exposure link to animals The symptoms reported among the patients are common to several respiratory diseases and pneumonia is common in the winter season however the occurrence of 44 cases of pneumonia requiring hospitalization clustered in space and time should be handled prudently 20200106 httpswtopcomasia202001amysteriousvirusismakingasianervousitsnotsarssowhatisit The World Health Organization said in a statementhttpswwwwhointcsrdon05january2020pneumoniaofunkowncausechinaen Sunday that there is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology20200112 httpswwwwhointcsrdon12january2020novelcoronaviruschinaen WHO is reassured of the quality of the ongoing investigations and the response measures implemented in Wuhan and the commitment to share information regularly 20200112 httpstwittercomwhostatus1216392474094178305 WHO is reassured of the quality of the ongoing investigations and the response measures implemented on the novel coronavirus 2019nCoV in Wuhan China and the authorities commitment to share information regularly with WHO httpbitly36N7hdF20200305 httpstwittercomDrTedrosstatus1235635005415739393 Were concerned that in some countries the level of political commitment the actions that demonstrate that commitment dont match the level of the threat we all face This is NOT a drill NOT the time to give up NOT a time for excuses This is a time for pulling out all the stopsI have also taken my own screenshot of this tweet by DrTedroshttpsiimgurcompUIwgbhpng|1 What about Pences quote in that articleDespite todays sad news lets be clear The risk to the American people of the coronavirus remains low according to all of the experts we are working with across the governmentThat seems to contradict much of what weve been hearing in the past week Even the CDC has said that its time for communities to prepare Who are the experts that they are working with|0 yes if you take it for a chronic disease its recommended to have a yearly checkup with your ophthamologist|1 Attention umevskonat cc uBlueCoastalElite Heres your reminder from 2 weeks ago on 20200225 080132Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20200225 080132Zreminderidb5457755a3fa4f8a8925b5fcccaf66f8subredditCoronaVirus2019nCoV Thread has 27 reminders Next time remember to use my default callsign kminder rCoronaVirus2019nCoV Coronaviruspredictionsfor2020rCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsf96ndzcoronaviruspredictionsfor2020fiprehocontext3 kminder in 14 daysThis thread is popping with 27 reminders Here is reminderception threadhttpsnpredditcomrRemindditReminderscommentsf9dwm2CoronaVirus2019nCoV Coronaviruspredictionsfor2020If you have thoughts to improve experience let us knowhttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectFeedbackAfterNotify2120Reminddit20Reminder2023b5457755a3fa4f8a8925b5fcccaf66f8OP can Repeat ReminderhttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectRepeat20Remindermessagekminder20in201420days200Akminder20220weeks0A0A0AServer20settings20below20Do20not20change0Aaction2120RepeatReminder0Areminderid2120b5457755a3fa4f8a8925b5fcccaf66f80A Delete CommenthttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectDelete20Reminder20CommentmessagedeleteReminderComment2120b5457755a3fa4f8a8925b5fcccaf66f8 Delete 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are not magically going to be better in 14 days Some are going to get better after 14 days some are not Lots of lost economic stability at the family levelThe American health care system is actually really really really good Former health care worker here Whats not good is our health administration and access vis a vie other countries of equal health care and economic ability Our health care professionals are world class I dont feel like our health care system is crumbling Its the bizarre control that insurance companies have on our access and they also drive how patient interactions occur Dont get me started on the shitshow with cost of meds and lab costs and such The average American is too fat I agree Solving that issue is a combo of self regulation dietary education healthcare access etc Try have confidence in your health care workers They are going to get this done Get real mad at the middlemen and legislators standing between you and your health care|1 I dont think theres enough evidence to be sure of this yet but its looking increasingly as though some cases may be either asymptomatic or so mild that they might as well be This is good in a way because it means that there may be lots of unrecorded cases which will push the CFR down but also makes it harder to contain as you cant see whos infected An advantage in Ebola was that people were only able to spread the disease when they were symptomatic so it was easier to tell who might be infectious People with weakened immune systems and the elderly definitely seem to be more at risk as they are for most infectious diseases the vast majority of deaths have been in people above 65 and of those the majority in people above 80 As we get more analysis of the existing cases other characteristics may or may not emerge Children dont seem to be getting bad cases at all so far There dont seem to be any other obvious trends emerging yet as far as Im aware|1 Yes and I wont be surprised if a lot of studios dont follow suite with stuff in the theaters now Attendance is way down so they might as well recoup their cost by moving up the video release dates A lot of big tent pole pictures have already moved openings to fall or next year|1 The most honest answer hereWell for me it is I relate to this completely|1 or they think it is seasonal flu|0 Thanks for the advice |1 Is it impossible to believe that Zuckerberg might actually try to do something good for once|1 All I know I legit saw a post on twitter that dissapeared about major announcement and then someone had a picture of it on Reddit which also disappearedSo at this point Im not sure if its bs being taking down or control of social mediaWe shall see in the following days|0 Mods are locking things that reflect badly on the administration Weak|0 Besides contact tracing and testing all the likely candidates family coworkers they are even sending out messages telling people where and when confirmed cases went shopping eating etc So members of the public can figure out that they were in the same place at the same time and get themselves tested The investigators use GPS data surveillance camera footage and credit card transactions to recreate their route a day before their symptoms showed Its very intrusive but effective httpswwwbbccomnewsworldasia51733145httpswwwbbccomnewsworldasia51733145|1 These symptoms arent consistent with those reported for COVID19 A dry unproductive cough no phlegm has been a consistent symptom from early cases If the cough becomes consistent and unproductive accompanied by a fever and you cant hold a full lung for 10 seconds without having to cough you should call the 866 number As a precaution you should stay home|0 Im worried financiallywhats going to happen most of us cant afford to stay home with no income|0 But not only do they have to get the vaccine ready for human use but they also have to produce millions if not hundreds of millions or even billions of vaccines to give to people Its mind blowing when you think about it|1 If thats the cases theyre always isolated due to their status How did they get infected|0 Next on the chopping block|0 Even my therapist was like okay I guess you were right|1 I agree Even if it simply cuts does the chances of getting a disease it is still worth it for me as an individual|1 America is trying to contain panic and keep the numbers lowIts going to lead to more people dying|0 coincides with brexit day NICE|1 Ill be sending my desktop and laptop to help out as best as they can See if I cant get my dads gaming rig to step up while hes at work too lolYouve got a Ryzen 5 3600x Radeon rx 5700 desktop and an i76700hq 980M laptop I hope they can be of some use Good luck Will spread the word thru my college discord as well|1 Double kill|0 Its up to you mate better to not be in a big city right now I guess Look at the bright side you can wear googles and mask without anyone noticing|1 Or just call your travel insurance The experience hosts are small business and expecting them to cover you not getting travel insurance isnt fair|0 Hes college age and otherwise healthy Hes on a reasonably good pump and manages his diabetes well Hes been checking for ketones more oftenI noticed people are buying up alcohol pads around here Before the virus hit the US Id gotten him 6 boxes of 200 medium That was 19 at Amazon two weeks ago at normal price Today its 24 Amazon and 29 other vendor Since hand sanitizer is out at local stores even the non alcoholic which doesnt match the 60 I suspect people want the pads|1 My company will be working hash bash on April 4th5th in Ann Arbor Michigan Talk about a specifically bad event People passing joints around sometimes just handed down the line to hundreds think qp joint of strangers|0 Thats why circlejerks are badIn a pair of months it will be all basically over and youll be fucked|0 he called the alarmism a hoax not the corona virus The alarmism triggered panic now the country is unnecessarily shutting down in most regions which is going to cause a lot people unnecessary problems financiallyat the end of 2019 the US was deemed overall most prepared for a pandemic 1 out of 195 even acknowledging the response would be slow ranking 54 out of 195 httpswwwghsindexorgcountryunitedstatesyeah discretionary spending priorities were changed based on the knowledge at hand we dont know what the result of that choice will be yet and the country has the unrivaled ability to throw resources at an identified problem but somehow people think they should spin up overnight which isnt how it worksin january china was still lying and saying the disease didnt spread from person to person hiding the fact that healthcare workers treating the mysterious viral pneumonia were catching it from patients|0 And yet makes me feel less worried so its all good|1 Same I hadnt heard anything about Pangolins before today either After reading through a few articles leading back to the original story I decided to link the older one over todays articles as it seemed like a more definitive source If its of any interest the first mention of Pangolins that I read today was herehttpswwwsmhcomauworldasiawhatiscoronavirusandhowworriedshouldwebe20200121p53t9dhtml That article links to this story about illegal wildlife trade being at the heart of this epidemic httpswwwsmhcomauworldasiahowdoesanepidemicspreadandwhatdoesthewildlifetradehavetodowithit20200129p53vvmhtmlwhich ultimately lead me to the article in the main post|1 I work in oil and have been offshore enough to realize this But its a good pointMy plan was to wear a mask over my eyes as well and then decontaminate after I get home But the only purpose of having the masks was for IF I have to go out not whenBut the key to making that work is knowing when to stay out at home And it may already be too late|1 Ps WATER Peanut butter Seriously great proteinenergy macros for storage required Ive lived for a month on it without a problem though it raised my cholesterol so get the kind without transfat Soap deodorant toothpaste MEDICINES Im not a doctor Not even a hardcore prepper|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 Buffalo here Same experience as you Crash|0 Hope you get well quick Life Money|1 Wondering if I should sanitize the contents But there are important papers with it that I cant exactly sanitize lol|0 Could there be false positive |1 Please provide evidence for gutting the CDC budget for past 4 yearsIm not challenging you Id really like to see if its true and then be able to pass the message onx200BThanks|1 Our current administration is full of idiots cowards and corporate bitches They dont know what to do and even if they did they wouldnt do it because it would mean prioritizing people over companies and wealth|0 This assumes there are grown ups in charge making responsible decisions Probably the same thing Russians assumed during the Chernobyl meltdown|1 I saw the part with the patients on beds being stopped in hallway yesterday It might be even olderIt was separate from the part with overcrowded hallways I think that part was just pasted to the beginning and the ending of the gif|0 Bad time to work in a chemist or supermarket I guess|0 These cases are certainly problematic Local sustained H2H transmission in other countries make it even more challenging to identify other cases At the moment our medical system is screening for China travel history but quite clearly Ifwhen this goes Pandemic in the definition sense without mass availability of testing this will be extremely challenging to deal with|1 We wont we are literally stupiding ourselves to death|0 True Valid points It also falls back on normal people for not wanting to be informed I have 0 medical background or training and I understand the ramifications of an issue like this Its not too hard to read up on it|1 Its just a list of countries In Brazil carnaval starts today with more than 7 days of huge parties with millions of tourists from all over the world I doubt the airports have any rigid control with tests and containment plansWe are counting on mere luck here|1 Ok but either you die of heart stuff or cancer eventually if you live long enough youre probably going to get cancer so whats the timescale for increased risk|0 Yesterday we went out for a modern asian cuisine restaurant thats new in town Food was great restaurant was quite empty Didnt think of this but could indeed be the cause Shame|0 What was it like Did you think you were going die|0 Just so this becomes real if 13 of Canada gets it at 34 rate thats over 400000 dead Tell that to those who do not believe you|0 German Government announced at 5pm that they reserved enormous amounts of Chloroquine from Bayer because intensive evaluation of positive first results is in progress|1 They waited for deaths before starting tests That pushes up the chance that a nursing home will tip you off but its still just a tip of an iceberg The US doesnt seem to have grasped that yet|1 The probably are burning shit Doesnt mean theyre burning 12000 bodies a day or whatever claim was being madeTheyre doing lots of extreme shit because this is an extreme circumstance Any detailed conspiracy theory is just absolute bullshit at this point Theres not enough information available to randoms outside of China to be making statements like ThEYre BuRnIng 30000 BoDiEs A DaY1|0 Because you only believe in the nonsense that is in the Bible Got it|0 1 people might not be advertising their contributions2 this is something that doesnt really have a monetary solution that governments cant handle whats needed is expertise and no amount of money magics up a horde of doctors|1 Yes I realized today that officials have started to insert several months time frames into the conversation about how challenging it will be for us to change our behavior as a society Im already wistful for back in the day yesterday when it was still two weeks|1 Id be laughing as well if it werent so serious over here But youre 100 correct on all points The United States is an absolute joke of a country This very well could be our Chernobyl only far more deadly|1 I keep seeing this talking about restaurant and grocery store employees What about airline workers and other business within airports They are very high risk and are getting ignore|0 Ive been having the same thoughts for yearshow completely broken and backwards our society is USnot everyone mind you but enough of the herd that we are collectively moving backwards Will Scandinavia take me and my family too Bonus two of us are an up and coming metal duo|1 This is the funniest thing EVERRRR|1 Its not a rumor A study points out that ACE2 receptors are more plentiful in cells that govern or are involved in both semen and testosteroneproduction in the testes It also points out COVID19 appears to target ACE2 receptors which are plentiful in the lungs kidneys heart intestines and testes COVID19 symptoms include damage to the lungs kidneys heart with sufferers having gastrointestinal problems and some appear to have lesions on their testes and may haveget orchitis which can lead to infertility Paper linked here httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf3of4srisksofinfertilityformenevenwithonlymildhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsf3of4srisksofinfertilityformenevenwithonlymild|0 Ok here some good newsI saw several snap stories from people which are currently in WuhanLife goes on tho I didnt see any doomsday scenarios in those snapsSure most people wore face masks or were insideThey were watching Netflix one dude was singing an dancing they ate a big ass burger and one dude made a story with a girl in his bed of course not naked or somethingSome people even joked about the virusSame on tiktok btw|1 whyareyouruninggif why do you want to escape if youre under watch and sure not positive And if you have the virus you can be cured or atleast be in first respond medical help|1 The first patient in Dallas TX to test positive for coronavirus a 77 year old man was released from the hospital and is doing well His wife was was also positive but never needed hospital care httpswwwfox4newscomnewsfirstpersonwhotestedpositiveforcovid19indallascountyleavinghospitalingreatshape|1 and with what you just said you are literally the embodiment of the worst fucking thing that could happen|0 Just hit C3 Hopefully can hit GC before this all ends|1 And even then the masks are basically useless unless theyre correctly sized for your face and youve received training on how to use them youre literally not supposed to be able to smell aerosols sprayed in your face when the mask in on properly|0 WHO complains about misinformationAlso WHO drops the definition of pandemicYou couldnt make this up|0 Wait just one second Youre telling me that we should have taken the Covid19 epidemic seriously when it started and not blown it off as equivalent to the common cold Its actually a national emergency because it is in fact much worse than a common coldWhere are all the users claiming that it is equivalent to a common cold today I hope you are hiding your faces in shame for claiming all the people who were legitimately informed were instead fear mongering Shame on all of you who decided Its not my problem because it is not in my backyard yet|0 You know in movies how the main characters try to get out of a certain situation because they sense danger but others bully and make fun of them for even considering this and then everyone dies|0 u are a fucking nutter give ya head a wobble ya fuckin pub lunch head cunt|0 1 A way to toggle the different bars on off so one could for example just look at active cases It could auto rescale when you click on it as well2 A toggle to show areas under lockdown|1 Yes Ive met a doctor about ten years ago and he was there he didnt want to talk about it nobody he knows died he just said he was young at that timethats allA good doctor though I wonder how he is doing now 18 confirmed in my hometown already|1 I am preparing for death sadly |0 Thanks|1 The main symptoms explained by CDC are respiratory symptoms and a fever These are nonspecific and apply to many other viral infections Initially we were concerned for people with a travel history and respitaroy symptoms But now with the spread of COVID19 what are other more specific signs and symptoms to look for Do we know whether droplet precautions are enough for patients with suspected COVID19|0 Honestly you shouldnt go to the doctor at all at this point unless you have a very high fever that has lasted a bit or are experience pneumonia symptoms that arent getting better You are not going to get tested and it is a waste of your time to go|0 There is going to be a lot of people who are willfully ignorant to whats going on flooding these subs talking about something they have no knowledge of Hopefully mods will ban them thats the plan on mine anyway|0 No its a teacher who divides their time between multiple schools Usually some kind of special ed teacher although sometimes it can be music drama shop etc|1 If everyone was forced to immediately convert to cooking groceries at home for food we would deplete our supplies very quickly Like it or not we need the ability to source from drive thrus and restaurants|1 No idea|0 Well like I said if it gets bad to the point of locking down towns cities neighbourhoods With those kind of numbers its only a matter of time before we see similar videos will be interesting to see the comparison|1 Im near Tacoma and my sister works for MultiCare I dont believe theyre testing people who are asymptomatic at this time even with direct exposure I could be wrong but I think thats whats happening now They are giving free virtual visits away to screen for it though and if she starts having symptoms theyll get her tested|1 economic interests are aligned with preventing disease spread Shutdowns will be longer and productivity will be worse the more sick people there are dead people are also bad for the economydead people dont buy things|0 Dont support Liverpool but damn this guy is just so hard not to like|0 Google is the enemy of the people Google is supposed to be a search engine instead they have become activist by pushing their leftist agenda by deciding what people can or cannot read in order to sway public opinionSounds like a wild conspiracy theory without any evidence and any sources provided for this will probably be from blogs unknown websites and youtube videos|0 Thats not what they said a few weeks ago when I was told about how bad the flu is this season Slow to pivot and to accept scientific findings Now doing a 180 and nobody listens due to the prior statements|0 The truth of reality The purpose of humanity|1 This is one of the most ridiculous things Ive heard with the sheer volume of tweets hes made speeches hes given youve got to be sticking your head in the sand to have been looking for years and come up emptyhttpsmyoutubecomwatchvLRmo6R2WN0YBtw|0 Nothing to do with mindless work and everything to do with cheaper labor|0 I think we are acting about right Its better to be prepared|1 She is only 37 but takes medications that suppress her immune system She has rheumatoid arthritis She got MRSA last year because her skin chaffed and has had an unexplained respiratory illness for the past 6ish months Not Covid19 Different symptoms|0 So what youre saying is Tedros is waiting for this virus to start hitting Africa hard I dont know where Tedros is from people still shit themselves to death and practice cannibalism For all we know behind closed doors he might see this is a bad cold|0 He got creamed in that race you really really lost|0 The cops can ventilate you right quick if you dont play ball|0 Could be worse Could be Dollar General|0 Thats one of the most fascinating things Ive ever read I have so many questionsInteresting that he hade rhonchi at urgent care but a clear chest Xray He had some pretty high fevers Also interesting that he never had a positive serum test I wonder if that is normal What kind of samples are everyone using to diagnose this Also interesting that he had nausea vomiting and diarrhea And low white counts Wouldnt it be amazing to have this kind of information on more patients What a trooper a lot of people wouldnt agree to be part of such a study|1 Good to know that for once us third world places are not much worse with this emergency than major EU countries|1 The hospital rankings were based on equiptment are research capabilities not outcome That is completely useless One of the 3 tools to rank them was size how the hell is that releavent Another is ficheros ricos which is literally their endowment Again in a country with free healthcare how is that relevantFind me anything on health outcomes for PATIENTS because thats what matters doesnt itYou argument is like saying that Russia is the richest country in the world because Putin is the richest man in the worldx200BBut ask yourself when a millionaire or billionaire from Europe or Canada get severly ill or injured were do they always go for medical treatment In a simple term the US has the best healthcare money can buy but thats the catch you have to buy it Is that a straight up bullshit guess I dont know if you know any billionaires but the filthy rich in London tend to use british doctors Yes maybe they pay to use private hospitals but in the UK the same doctors that work in private hospitals are mandated to work in public ones as well Crazy huh|1 With the Schengen zone I dont think it really matters as open internal borders within Schengen stop over flights and the fantastic EUrail system makes flight bans of direct flights without other measures worthlessIt wasnt publicly known in the West that infectious carriers could be asymptomatic for so long as well making temperature checks a good but incomplete measureChina tried to cover it up in the beginning then before Italy closed her borders preannounced a quarantine of Wuhan meaning those with means to leave did so before the quarantine struck Some of these early cases during the cover up and quarantine dodgers ended up everywhere around the globe and Chinas nouvea riche love love love Italy especially for Chinese New Year vacations the biggest holiday time of the year for ChinaFinally China lobbied hard for countries to not place stringent travel controls on it and the Italian government has just agreed wholeheartedly to receiving Chinese funds and investment for the One Belt One Road project I wouldnt be surprised if that played a factor against a stricter ban of people coming from China across all borders|1 Why arent our Heath Care workers already equipped with the masks they need How is it the general publics jobs to do this Just shows how inadequate the Heath Care system is|0 I cant stand that fucking idiot speak for yourself|0 I could not love this post more|0 Somebody turned horsepox to smallpox in lab it lead to finding new vaccine for smallpox So there might be people who are thing its perfectly viable strategy|1 Trumpers kicking Romney out may have saved his life That irony tho|1 It is affordable for them thats why their cool with it as is|1 Dont worry all flights just got canceled here in Belgium Great|1 Depends As for me I trust the Washington Post and New York Times|1 My roommate got fired from his last job for going home when he started throwing up|0 same lol|1 Cant see that paper here but the only 9 day figure Ive seen was from a paper testing virus viability when suspended in culture medium a solution used in laboratory science specifically designed for cellularmicrobial survival and growthThe virus was suspended in 10ul droplets under humid conditions which would first have to evaporate Then the virus is still sat in a super friendly matrix of sugarsIts not really comparable to real life conditions of being sneezed or coughed out of someones face Spit and snot are actually rather unfriendly to viruses|1 Finally something positive|1 For those of you that dont know this is a typical example of CCPs information warfare on western mediasocial network exploiting the freedom that average Chinese people dont have in their home country while freely criticizing the western media that are blocked by GFW that average Chinese cant even access|0 Honest question What would be considered excessive handwashingsanitizing|1 How can I give you data when I just said my country doesnt allow inside information to reach globally My really close friend knows these type of things and had told this to me Let me tell you when my country told the world first there were only 4 people infected my friend told me there is 1 other person also and after some time they announced this If I tell the number now the total count of Corona virus cases will increase drastically|1 Bought you coffee Please keep this going it is insanely helpful information Are you the only one updating and how are you collecting data|1 I mean he cant leak it Hence classified|1 Ive read your comment history here and Ill say you have a degratory tone I understand you find others opinions unsettling but who wants to listen to someone who bashes othersRegarding what you say Car accidents are not contagious and do not spread exponentially over a short period of time The benefit of quarantine is to limit the spread too late for corona imo which was done successfully with ebola and sars for example A couple of potentially 7 billion people is still around 70 million dead for every percentageThe purpose now may be to delay the spread and buy time to better prepare and focus resources and to lessen the concurrency of cases reducing the stress on society as a wholeWhat do you think is the best way of dealing with corona given the current situation|1 Really excellent post Thank you|1 I hope they dont cancel WrestleMania its in like three weeks|1 Cults tend to amplify the proclivity for a majority of adults to act like children with money|1 They are lucky to have reached such an age and are even more lucky to have a grandchild who loves them and cares about them Keep doing what youre doing check in on them calls videos letters whatever make sure theyve got food perhaps bring them something hobby wise they can do whether its some DVDs or jigsaw puzles or even video games youre never too old to start new things and they can still have fun You need to try to get your mind off the worst case scenario do everything reasonable you and they can do to stay protected but dont forget to keep living|1 I wasnt taking about statistics I was talking about people that would have been otherwise alive if not for this illness 1 is too many and were already way past that|0 No people doing trade isnt one side fleecing over another Thats why its trade and not gunboat diplomacy The trade is when 2 countries using relative advantage to take advantage of each others specialization|1 To give you an idea The government gave 17 trillion to Wall StreetThere is roughly 325 million Americans in the United States That equals to a little over 5200 per American Take that as you will just doing the mathHowever I will leave you with a quote from Martin Luther King jrSocialism for the rich rugged individualism for the poor|1 Can confirm this as a primary teacher Some of my colleagues already have class sizes of about 36 and that was before coronavirusWe had Norovirus go around our school it was chaos Sick kids and adults everywhere|0 Also here northern Michigan Lots of bad bugs this year|0 The testing here is like saying 36 Roentgen Not good not terribleWait till we get the better meter|1 What would it take to finally brand the American government as Evil|0 When someone does something in the hope of praise or notice it is called virtue signallingLet the downvoting commence|1 Oh sorry I miss understood your questions They all have these laser thermometers that they use on your forehead without touching the skin I was a little high the otherday as I had just had a long walk to the police station so they checked the temp on my wrist as well|1 I thought about it but it seemed so obvious for once Apparently I was wrong Will edit|0 Be informed be ready with what ever resources possible and hold on I am surrounded by 70 year olds sweet people and Im extra worried forthem|1 I know right I am worried about this virus its already in my state and it could literally be anywhere because the people broke the quarantine Also one of my teachers daughters is in the foreign exchange program and she just came back from italy that teacher isnt here this week but my school still doesnt care|0 Getting away with maybe They arent really covering g anything upThey have a lot of secrets but no mysteries|0 interesting|1 Ugh yea that was probably here in Denver I expect to see quite a few cases from that event|0 Exactly and many states are now actively trying to prevent the spread Literally just about every schooluniversity in my city has been closed Thia sub fear mongers too much and its fucking annoying Yes take this seriously but stop reveling in imaginary scenarios|0 Thats a slippery slope If you treat people like actual humans eventually theyre gonna start to think of themselves as humans and expect to be treated humanely|1 They do keep a good relation with china mostly because they export most of their raw materials to china China has been distancing themselves from NK for a while but they are its closest ally They had some people movement there of course|1 I hope more high ranking Tories get infected includes this fucking boris cunt|0 They did the moment the church cluster was found they began testing It wasnt perfect but across the world it was the best response maybe only second to SingaporeGo through the headlines and the numbers from 21st February onward It was obvious the situation was much worse especially with all the cases Italy has been exporting over to the world which is a screaming signal that the outbreak has been running rampant for some time and requires drastic actions to control But they looked at the daily new cases and shrugged And only a few days ago did they start to wake up to the situation they have on their hands after the health care system got overwhelmed and the daily new cases are 700|1 how do you hoax a virus|0 Hmmm I am not superstitious but this makes me feel weird inside|0 I see So influenza flu is generally a rhinovirus and since the wuflu is a coronavirus its not accurate to call it a flu |0 I had really good insurance through my parents when I was in my early twenties One day pissed blood and had terrible pain in my side Enough pain to think I was dyingDrove to an ER Was in there for about 30 minutesCT scan and diagnosis of kidney stonesMonth later got the bill2000 dollars even after insuranceUSA is a joke There is no American Dream There is no empathy There is only greed Everywhere Food medications housing clothing edit 2 forgot educationEdit spelling|0 Lets be honest many people who dont believe anything coming out of the CCP are not going to use the same level of skepticism on rumors and leaks theyre getting out of social media This is just as bad if not worseTreat EVERY source coming out with proper skepticism and well be better off Mass panic and hysteria helps noone|0 Imagine standing in a line of 50 people and being told 1 of you is going to be shot You ok with that scenarioGot any grandparents 15 chance for them|1 Okay so Everyone just needs to stay home And its wonderful that people are making school lunches for all these kids to take homeIt only takes on person with COVID19 to pass it on to 100s of people though One much lady or man And Bam Every kid will have it Will pass it to their parents and siblings and other family So a 15 of contracting it Think about that So 200 out of a thousand will get sick With exponential growth Thats a 5 Of people who are infected With exponential growth and a 0025 mortality rate That adds up quick|1 I havent read all the posts but a more useful stat might be deaths as a of world population Those early plagues were horribly devastating as a portion of the population To the dead it doesnt matter how many others die but still an interesting metric|0 Why is it one or the other Both governments are shit if you ask me Yes the CCP propaganda and influence machine is running high since the flack they got from fucking up this virus massively at the start Yes Trump constantly dropped bullshit information about this virus on his Twitter followed by this twat move|0 So why doesnt the government control the supply purchase all stock first and then if theres anything left over at some point in the future when theyve hopefully ramped up domestic production release any remainder for sale to the public|1 1261 9336 x 100 135 infection rate Can I panic now|0 Sadly I think theres something uniquely bad with the US Government Maybe some other countries could fit that category too This is pathetic though|0 Sometimes it is hard to believe they dont want it to because of the incompetenceAgreed Its getting more and more difficult to believe its mere incompetence and not deliberate|0 Oh Im sure hes fine In as good of health as they guy who stood in front of the tanks All is wellYou think they showed him the video they just published of the happy dancing ladies in the contagion ward Hope so Sure would have cheered him up|1 All social media platforms MSM and governments censored this too Not just China to blame|0 Nowhere did it say they would instantaneously appear in every medical facility in the entore country withing 5 minutes or be unlimited like the lords bread and fish Look maybe things are happening late Maybe things arent being taken seriously by all But bombarding the Healthcare system and people with complaints isnt helping and pent up anger at trump or whomever isnt going to change what they can do for you If you think you are sick or could be sick Stay the full home Dont risk anything No one out there wants to make it so the US doesnt get to test people But they sure as hell do have real and limited numbers They have to prioritize And we have to be patient There is just no other way Any new tests new studies new ideas are great ones Please support them For all of our sake|0 Like they learned after the Spanish flu or heeded the warnings from Sara mers and Ebola|0 Here are some things China did in WuhanHubei Encouraged selfquarantine Communities assigned people to each local residential area to carry out essential daily tasks such as purchasing food water drugs etc to minimize uncontrolled contact between people Community level quarantine Forbid all unnecessary intercommunity travels to avoid potential infection clusters from expanding before confirmation Cubic hospitals Wuhan created 10 cubic hospitals from buildings that have large indoor spaces such as stadiums or large meeting halls to house patients with light symptoms in order to 1 allow faster responses in case symptoms turn severe and 2 minimize the risks of these people infecting other healthy individuals Makeshift treatment centers namely those 2 hospitals built within 10 days it actually took longer than that but you get the point These hospitals along with ICUs of other hospitals are meant to house patients with severecritical symptoms so they would have life support if needed and better care in general while remaining in a fully quarantined areaI dont know if Italy did all these things especially the first 3 but if it didnt then its only reasonable that it will see worse numbers than those from China|1 everything correct except announcing confirmed cases or maybe they dont have enough test kits so they just put all suspected cases into a secret wing|0 Putin has always been an enemy you are delusional|0 Always wanted to give an award Enjoy fellow redditor |1 Yes|1 Its an interesting reversal one month ago all Chinese are personaenongrata all around the world however now its Chinas turn to stop people elsewhere from coming in|1 I am beginning to doubt this information Renal Society says dont stop taking medications httpsrenalorgrenalassociationukpositionstatementpatientsnovelcoronavirusinfectionusebloodpressuremedicationsApparently this claim comes from a doctor in France and data not consistent Coming out now there is a lot of misinformationhttpswwwbbccomnews51929628Stay well RJ|1 Fair I appreciate it is scary but at this moment in time we need to stay calm and believe that measures are being taken in an attempt to minimize the effect of this Pandemic Things are being phased in such as football match and other events being shut down Give it a couple of weeks and imagine schools will be closing too but now doesnt seem to be the correct time As people keep quoting they need to smooth the curve and to do this in a reasonable time frame a certain number of people need to get infected before intense measures are taken I wish you and your family all the best but now is not the time to panic right now we need a concerted effect and attempt to keep the plan When the time for proper social isolation is upon us we will be told and then we need to take it seriously|1 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure|1 There arent enough N95 masks for everyone by a long shot If everyone is convinced they need to wear one just to step outside it doesnt leave any for medical professionals who really do need one|1 I doubt it The two are totally intertwined Also while flippant this comment was actually me trying to point out the synchronicity of having a large migratory holiday coming up during the ramp up phase of an epidemic which is kind of something that should be factored into preparedness planning no|0 Oh please I doubt any US president gives two fucks about their people Hilary wouldve done the same dumbass American bullshit Obama didnt do anything for Flint Bush didnt give a shit about Katrina etc etc|0 He literally said that despite the will of the voters felons still cant vote unless they pay likely illegal and exorbitant fees cmon dude hes a piece of shit too|0 Here let me google that for you httpswwwcdcgovncehvspsurvGIlisthtmAs you can see the CDC publishes that data If you click on a few example voyages you will see that the number often exceeds 100 infections sometimes more than 200 or even 300|1 They dont exactly care about people inside of China either|0 Good Fuck them|0 Your sister got you sick Get her a congratulations for being an idiot cake when this all blows over|0 Stay safe friend Love your username |1 Dude might be immortal if he can handle all that|1 No one wants to hear you berate people at Walmart|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Theres are lots of things to prevent such happen even if your economy are shit|0 No shit Sherlock|0 Confirmed 92312 dead 3131 recovered 48190 Every country in the world is working on this|0 CDC recommendations are what have gotten us in this mess They dont want to test anyone until you are practically a corpse Meanwhile thousands of people are running around NYC already infected Manhattan is a sleeper hot zone I personally know several people who are sick but not sick enough to head to the doctor and so no one has really been tested Worse part is Manhattans populations swells during the day so we are rapidly exporting cases to Westchester NJ and CT everyday|0 Italians have bidetsbidets world peace |1 Fucking hell Are you actually seriousEvery major government is advising asthmatics to take care Respiratory issues make people more vulnerable to infections do you actually need to see direct evidence for this virus Use your common sense|0 Water is a basic human right Charging for it when taxes are paid is a joke No excuse to cut someones water|0 As indicated our restaurants just closed down Please be safe EVERYONE If you can help please help If you need help ask for help|1 I came to post the same thing This is not proof or even evidence that the virus did not come out of the Wuhan institute of virology Theyve been rebuked before for dangerous Coronavirus research and containment failures This is at the most a very early educated guess that this virus was not engineered Thats all well and good the question that needs to be answered is did it come out of the lab or not|0 Tests are limited resourcesSure but the point is that they shouldnt still be so limited We should be testing everyone even if they just have minor symptoms so that people can be identified and ensured that they stop spreading it to others If people think I probablymight just have the flu then they arent going to take the same precautionsAnyone who wants a test can get one was what 1 or 2 weeks ago South Korea can do it so why cant the US|0 Is demand higher than need|0 Hope your dad is doing good|1 When there are no symptoms for a week after you spread it it would be fairly easy for one person to walk on and give it to the entire ship before anyone realized|1 One thing Ive noticed is that doomers never respond coherently to questions about the lack of deaths outside of China or even in China outside of Hubei They invariably rely on a set of generic and vague nonanswers like West has better medical system Chinese pollution or the classic WAIT IT WILL GET WORSE Reality is that the west having a better medical system doesnt explain the lack of deaths outside Hubei since it is still in China 15 deaths pollution also doesnt explain the disparity and it certain doesnt explain why SARS caused more deaths outside China The obvious answer is simply that this coronavirus is NOT as deadly as previous ones but that is the one big no no that doomers cannot Once it gets out that the actual mortality rate is below 5 possibly even as low as 12 targeting primarily the elderly the reality is that most of the world is going to lose interest fast Humanity just does not care about old people|0 18 months Thats a long ass timeline|0 DrZhang received two patients and she found their symptoms odd later she received two more similar patients Like I said in the post she was highly concerned and reported the cases she also alert her department and the hospitalThen DrLi heard about the test report from his workmateDrLi talked about the virus in a group chat there are 150 people in the group he was warning his classmate to be careful All of his classmates are doctorsSomeone screen shot it posted it then it went viral then DrLi was arrested|0 Thank you for doing this Please stay safe|1 Cheerfully withdrawn|1 just to be clear you mean goverments hands not governors hands yes cause the governors are doing a better job than the president so fari think the abbreviation you want is govts|1 You are insanely misinformesedEdit seriously people no where has anything close to 15 mortality there is absolutely no reason to think thats an accurate number other than sheer panic and misinformation|0 Must be an idiot following and distracted by the media in the blanket blame game lacking in any critical thinking skills|0 People need to stop focusing on the tests Tests are not a major prevention method AT ALL They are only useful if the patient is at risk and must be taken special care of if infected or for medical staff so they can avoid being a factor of transmissionThe lower fatality rates are a logical consequence of testing more healthy people it just skews the numbersThe only key to prevent spread is the isolation of people and especially people who were potentially in contact with the virus|0 Not only the vulnerable get really sick|0 Not sure if I agree but adjusting masks constantly will cause you to touch youre face more often|0 No that is not the story carts overflowing with toilet paper tells|0 mm havent visited those ones for 40 days already A few surgical masks are good enough for me as its ending in China|1 Like the rules of the subreddit If thats the case I apologize|1 I work from home so it wouldnt be a huge adjustmenti assume I would still have to work But my 8 year old would be home all day and I wouldnt be able to engage with him that much so who knows what he would get into its just the 2 of us and Ive been prepping since January we would be ok over 2 months and maybe even longer but we would prob have a few fights on what he would have to eat|0 Ive been thinking he has a ghost writer for his tweets for some time now Too many words grammar too complex compared to his press conference or interviews So I think the tweets can go on for a long time regardless of his condition|0 I dont watch him talk often but he had a couple strange pauses in the middle of words where it looked like he was sharply taking a breath Is that normal for him|1 Ill take Newark over LaGuardia|0 If crime stopped then the police would be out of work Its the circle of life|0 Another post is saying pets can get coronavirus so be careful|1 Per Fox 10 Phoenix theres a second student who presented the same symptoms as the confirmed student from ASU The CDC refused to take his samples because he didnt come from Wuhan but the province next to Hubei The first student confirmed to have coronavirus Attended class went clubbing went shopping before seeing the doctorWith the latest numbers more than 3000 of the 4500 cases in China are outside of Wuhan It isnt popping on the CDCs radar because the CDC is grossly underreacting to the scale of the epidemic China responsible for a fifth of the worlds population is under full cholera of 1820 Plague protocls Interprovince travel travel restrictions are heavily restricted even in Beijing The number of confirmed cases in Wuhan doubled in a single day while 80 of provinces have now reached the confirmed numbers Wuhan had on Jan 16th|0 This made me chuckle We made a final run to Cosco Home Depot and Sportsmans Warehouse the other night Two trucks loaded up We backed each truck into the garage and closed the door before unloading because we didnt want neighbors to see I dont know my neighbors I moved here for work last year and thought it was temporary Been living like college kids because our stuff is still in Texas So now I have two sets of SHTF goods |1 Thanks for the info Im trying to figure out which sanitizers or disinfectants are effective Looks like Dettol uses chloroxylenol which may not be effective against coronavirus httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed9602977Still researching|1 her dick was under 3 inches|0 I mean he is racist so|0 Its a just in case thing widespread sickness can shut a lot of stuff down ie look at China and all the factories We can hope it doesnt get to that point at any rate but most people are erring on the side of its better to have and not needMy local Costco has actually limited water and sugar sales to 5 per household probably other items too like flour and was actually out of toilet paper|1 Its a cynical move that is all|0 After using hand sanitizer make sure to use lotion of some kind If your skin is breaking your are just giving germs and viruses more entry points Im sorry that you have to work even when you know you shouldnt We are making a rukus for paid leave for folks like you and suspension of rentmortgage for few months|1 In all fairness most institutions are great in theory and then we find flaws when humans implement them and begin manipulating|1 Fucking plebs s Great news catching this asshat|1 FWIW Koreas not a warm climate More like ne usa They containment has more to do with policyIt will be interesting to see if the different usa climates have different results|1 Interesting question I mean last election we were discussing if everyone should have free broadband which these days is often included as a human right Sure thats useful for education etc but surely it isnt necessary to live Foodwater and shelter are necessary for survival why on earth werent we offering free food instead of free bloody broadband|1 I actually chuckled when the task force yesterday was about to go live with their press conference and then postponed till after the markets closed|1 No deaths in children under 10 but they can still get flu like symptoms or pneumonia Biggest threat is to those 50 or with underlying conditions Overall at least 30x more deadly than the flu|0 What is the logic in this My opinion here This could possibly mean they will quarantine the region and save tests to stop spread in other regions because Washington is not contained Why couldnt we just have been preparedDont answer that lol I think I got it|1 Vogmasks Those things are awesome and Im buying some once this is all over with|1 Look at those unreal top comments They are just unbelievably ridiculous at this stage|0 Dry goods medication pet food cough drops and food that youll actually want to eat Also if you like these things candy popcorn chips to make things better|1 It will but it takes a while of not showing symptoms until a case counts as a recovery Theres all kinds of lag in all directions|0 sending my prayers well wishes were going to get through this|1 And then he thought he heard God answer Nah let em die so he did|0 Chancellor just said that it is possible to stop public transit at all I dont think this will happen in the ghext 3 weeks but who knows Just wanted to let you know|0 4000 doctors and nurses drive all days from Italy to go to work in Switzerland Lombardia will be happy to give them a new job if border was closed|1 Europe is definitely not completely innocent of that as well But this pandemic definitely is showing where the glaring benefits of a so called welfare state are compared to complete capitalism|1 and if he doesnt he clearly doesnt care about poor people|0 Cancel the event because of a few infections Ridiculous alarmism happening all over the place in hereIs it really alarmism The virus can take up to 14 days before symptoms show A few infections are guaranteed to have interacted with many people before they even found out and those people interacted with others and so onChina just plateaued after over a month and they did serious lockdowns If the US allows huge gatherings in places close to confirmed cases then it will spread like wildfire I dont think its being an alarmist just because they want to minimize the spread|0 They can claim that theyre technically correct in at least two ways but it is deliberately misleading and manipulating the public|0 Could ease the transmissions though couldnt it|1 I imagine that will increase if theres a shelter in place order Some cities are enacting specific encampment provisions but I have a feeling NYC will go no tolerance on this one|1 I think anyone with a brain knows the numbers are 10x at this pointI mean they are turning away dying patients from the hospital There is no way ZERO that they are counting everyone|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Well said I feel like we know a secret And everyone has the opportunity to know the secret but they just dont care because theyre so clogged up in their own bsevery day life its just the flu that its just nonsense to them If they cared to know the secret infection could possibly be avoided But they wont pay attention to the secret until it crops up and infects them their loved ones a politician or a celebrity Until then the secret remains as it is|1 Thats what I want to knowtooI am a Chinese living in Henan province and I saw these videos tooI really want to know whats going on exactly because my neighborhood damaged the roads to stop people from entering and going outI think where I am is quite far from Wuhanand the videos really make my family feel scaredis the video realthere are too many rumours|0 ffsThe number of cases is increasing they are obviously preparing for the natural increase in cases over time If they only built beds for the cases NOW theyd constantly be shortCalm down and try to use basic logic|1 I mean yeah Sick leave should already be widely available the US just sucks ass on that front For instance my wifes job technically accrues sick leave for employees but if they use it its still a strike against their attendance as if they were just a noshow Obvious netresult most people go to work sick getting everyone else sick Its idiotic Nobody should lose their job because of a pandemic|0 well waive copays for the testing Exactly what the fuck does that mean to someone who has no copays and is 100 deductible based Oh yeah nothing Someone should burn their house down|0 No Im wearing multiple N95 masks at a time some not even on my face Im giving out globs of hand sanitizer as tips Its glorious|1 coughing in someones face is protected by the first amendment|1 holy shit sounds like there could be thousands of cases out there that nobody knows about fuck|0 It gets it from the GEOS5 model The GEOS5 model does not get live information on sulphur emissions from satellite data Instead it combines expected sulphur emissions as determined from data from the 90s and 00s with weather data to forecast where SO2 will go once its already emitted|1 Yeah you mean like they did for people after Katrina What a joke|1 If you go into detail like thatok What about people who work in a different city or county Can they not go to work Are you going to pay their rent or supply food to them|1 Why do you think it accomplishes nothing If it gets more people to be careful about staying home when they are sick I think that is something Also as a parent with a child with a preexisting medical condition I dont really want to hear how such a low amount of young people die that it doesnt matter|0 And the German government does what does best Watching and waiting|1 Have we reached a point where xenophobia and racism is now acceptable|0 How long is a substantial amount of time 3 months 1 year|1 Its like a Daily Mail story thats true|1 Class haha |1 Im not too worked up just worried because Im not informed and dont quite know what to look for|0 And just what IS happening to the lungs in carriers sickened and those in recovery Need to hear more about THATtoo|0 Your re perfectly right but in the Uk the masks are out of stock already for weeks now|1 Please clear this virus from the white house and get some competent people in charge of this|1 You tried to do something nice and the energy was wrong So it could have been right place wrong time or right time wrong place You are over it so just let that bad energy float away into the stream through the river over the waterfall and into the ocean Gone|0 Was this ever confirmed I recall that it was only one local reporter who claimed that and then everyone else said that this prisoner didnt have it|0 Why do you pay so much You earn a lot I am guessing I pay 255|0 This short sighted thinking is how we got where we are though Two weeks of lost wages is a hell of a lot better than a nationwide health epidemic that leads to a market collapse and then massive layoffs unemployment Minor to semimajor inconvenience now hopefully rectified by government intervention we can give billions in corporate subsidies we can sure as hell bail out our people or massive inconvenience tied hand in hand with a public health collapse I take the first 99 times out of 100|0 Some companies say they are ok the verge of releasing them|1 Expecially for people in critical condition But Ill bet you anything that one in 5000 statistic applies to chronic users of it not people taking it for 5 to 10 days|0 My sister is still teaching and she has severe asthma I really hope he closes schools soon|1 If youre lucky you only get mild symptoms but you can still infect the elderly and other vulnerable groups|0 Unless they are forced to close stores will make employees keep going in Even if they only make half the money they should have head office will say it is 50 more then if the closed the store for the day Meanwhile everyone in head office is working from home|0 Kudos to you for listening We have found it relaxing Doing lots of things I didnt have time for Cooking alot of really gourmet meals We just times our regular shopping list and made a few adjustments for fresh veges and things like that|1 And people stay infected for months and years|0 I dread you are right I hope we arent too late but the public just was led up to this slaughter due to incompetent federal government|0 Trump World is overreacting We have the best doctors They are doing a great job This is not as serious as the fake media projects Relax and carry on with your normal routine Flu kills more people|1 Laughs in American|1 Ok and the same reasoning applies for that The stock market and the economy are correlated|1 I went to the guys at AE they are still in packaging the masksOne of the guys was like Not sure we can take these the other one was like Yes we absolutely can in an areyoukiddingme type of tone Theyll probably put them in the back office and use them when the government supplies run out I have no idea I imagine a lot of standard protocol things are going to be suspended over the next few weeks|1 Theres some truth to it in that education is mostly designed to enforce compliance these days Thats the system writ large though Individual teachers can care very much about their students and like to see them flourishBut the work of a schoolkid is worthless it just creates work for others Nobody is profiting off your book reports timmy Its for your edification its a service to you the student|1 and the Chinese gov would build it on contaminated ground in such a manner that it would collapse and kill patients at some point|0 Currently right now we already have zero bed lolz|1 Yes I work in the medical field and this is accurate Supplies are running low and suppliers are jacking up prices|1 I know you were trying to be insulting towards the nba players but Im still going to point out that it takes way more than just being tall Yes a few players are stars because theyre genetic freaks but most of them have an insane skill level that they have worked on and are still working on since they were kids Ps I really ducking miss the NBA if you couldnt tell|0 Look up the southern strategy Its no wonder you guys dont even have the education to address corruption Literal vote farming statesFunny that billionaires are more likely to be blue unless they inherit their money from their parents lol|1 I disagree as I think friends and family should be encouraged to take reasonable steps to prepare for what they need Shit goes down Im going to have some badass friends and family to share life with and hopefully theyre a bit more prepared because I wasnt hiding Yes no sign in the front yard but we need community and each other if were going to have any real chance at moving forward|1 Explain to me how someone quarantined in their home is spreading it to others What you should be looking out for is the new rate of spread under quarantine conditionsWhat does this have anything to do with confirmed cases Whether there are new infected people or not they get added to the suspected pile before they get confirmed by testing so if there is a backlog of 21k people then your confirmed cases per day cant go down before you clear those 21k people|0 But leave the rest on there by themselves Sounds a bit selfish imo especially for a country that likes to save face|1 Yes its a tricky one to call Im saying no When the official figures record cases Im taking it that those are nearly all people showing symptoms There may be some that have tested positive in screening but who have no symptoms and are counted as cases but these would be the exception Anyway my model is based on official figures as source data so its based on the official count|0 Regrettably the coronavirus shot Comrade Li twice in the back of the head|0 Yes MASKS SAVE LIVEShttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799 EVERYONE SHOULD BE WEARING A MASKhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799Any Type Of General Mask Use Is Likely To Decrease Viral Exposure And Infection Risk On A Population Level In Spite Of Imperfect Fit And Imperfect Adherence Personal Respirators Providing Most Protection MASKS SAVE LIVEShttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799 DIY MASKShttpswwwgooglecomsearchclientsafarichanneliphonebmsourcehpei8dtqXscONeegTrmqmgDQqdiymaskforfluoqdiymasgslpsyab110i131l2j0l6j0i131j024146062900000021214280j7j101gwswiz60i362i308i154i357MV1MjhZkTo8|1 You ma dude is a really good guy You fuckin genius My fam had problems with em for like my entire life Thank you for being someone who knows this shit You are a good man thank you I just noticed your name lmfao|1 Im not sure if swim goggles would look more or less silly than this|0 I would contain her but shes an assholeand Im not letting her get near me My friend was ordered back from Korea and same story no TSA check Just assume theyre everywhere We live in a small rural area I can only imagine its worse in populated areas|0 My mom is 84 and thank God she lives with me Shes sooo stubborn but at least since shes in my care I can prevent her from going to any dangerous places full of people Im purchasing some craft materials and puzzles for her to work on while shes cooped up and I also plan to take her out walking a few times a week I think this will help soften the blow of being told she cant do her regular routine She is such a creature of habit and still so independent but shes also at great risk due to her age and hypertension Hopefully some of the older folks start heeding the warnings|1 I bartend in a SW Florida tourist town my girlfriend is a restaurant manager my restaurant did over 1000 covers yesterday at least 60 were over the age of 65 The more conservative the boomer the more they believed this is all a hoax Most are taking zero precautions My girlfriends place on the beach set record alcohol sales because so many spring breakers are out taking advantage of cheap flights hotels are slashing prices to make up for last minute cancellations|0 They want that money money money|1 No cases yet in Ottawa to date I heard early on of one possible which turned out to be nothing Good table A bit more descriptive than Worldometer|0 But getting everyone infected with this virus will make things even worse And will also kill more people than needed Whats more important being responsible or faking stuff so people will be calm|0 If the CDC is needed to tell you that you should cancel your wedding right now then let me refer to the opening of Idiocracy and suggest that you update your life plans Our future will thank you|1 I wonder where they got 381 fromThis number has to be backdated article says Wuhans doctors became aware late Dec if thats the case how did they know its 381 That number seems like if someone after knowing what this is went back and review old cases and then got that number|1 Sure sucks not to know but as seen here it is not necessary to know The worry is people get angry and go out since they are not officially ill even if deep down they know it Im convinced you have it and impressed you kept your calm and thought of others|1 Also recommend these videos Protect self and family Feb 14 2020httpsyoutubeIkdPFCStA38 Runtime 11 min Live Chat with John Saturday 22 Feb 2020 1900 UK timehttpsyoutube57fVBsJtwbA Runtime 15235|1 CDC guidelines include pts presenting with respiratory symptoms w recent travel from China which to me as a physician seems appropriate So this headline is misleading Although I am surprised at the low number of tests given the tremendous amount of travelers into the US from China at baseline Theres too many variables that go into total number of tested pts 1 Pts may be not presenting for care due to mild symptoms 2 Front line doctors not obtaining adequate histories or pts themselves withholding history 3 Test kit availability esp since first batch was defective Going into a bit of biostats rationale on not testing the general population outside of chinaThe thing is every test has a false positive and false negative rate if we start mass testing in the general population outside of china where disease prevalence is low you will have a high degree of false positive results This is why we think carefully about using any test and avoid using a test alone in clinical decision making For example if there is LOW pretest probability ie pt with respiratory symptoms without recent travel to china and no recent involvement in any super spreader event ie Diamond princess if the test was positive I would consider that a false positive test If there is a HIGH pretest probability pt traveled from China even if the test was negative I would consider this to be a false negative Again NO test can replace general clinical picture and clinical judgement The thing is in the context of an outbreak you would be hardpressed not to treat every positive result even if it was a false positive As a result if we were to mass test the general population we would have a significant number of false positives forcing us to waste resources on pts who otherwise probably dont have the virusThe gold standard for diagnosis would be isolationculture of the virus from either nasopharyngeal swab bronchoalveolar lavage fecal testing blood urine Without that it is impossible to know whether countries like Italy are testing too much or the US is testing too little or both My bet would probably be on both and the appropriate amount of testing is probably somewhere inbetween|1 So Lets recap you said Why isnt china allowing in WHO I pointed out that according to the WHO they are You stuck to your conspiracy theory that they are not 1 China is an autocratic state they dont even publish the simplest things like unemployment figures 2 They are spraying houses because that is what you do in a viral outbreak 3 they are not welding people into homes That story is from a Taiwanese conspiracyanti CCP propaganda site I know because my father in law listens to it all the time This is the same blog that talks about how the virus is a bioweapon designed by the french and released during a air plane demonstration by the Americans Yes there is some bullshit going on and it is not all by the CCP4 They are detaining journalists because that is what the CCP does Try and post a blog about anything negative about the CCP and see what happens Any dissent outside of the party line is reason for arrest It doesnt mean that what the journalists say it true only that it is not CCP approved In China you get arrested for saying true things as well as false things The info which does tend to get out is via the HK and Taiwanese media because they have the information smugglers So generally speaking all info illegally gathered in China will have a strong antiCCP bias and you have to correct for that Im not saying the CCP arent a bunch of total authoritarian dickwads what i am saying is rely on the infectionmortality rates of the known western infections and its still at 2 Still just a slightly worse flu Not Armageddon|0 Wrong|0 I dont think a warmer climate will stop it it may slow it down Iran right now is 16 degrees and has been between 14 and 18 degrees this week I think this will be around until and if they can develop a vaccine that works Vaccines can take a few years to get right|0 Chinese here Dont trust the chinese government at all Period|0 WHO dont dare call it pandemic because its admitting they failed they get the blame |0 I mean if I am going to die I wouldnt mind finding out what paid porn is all about first|0 Unless most of the people in charge of water and electricity get infecteddieYes but it isnt like they have to go to work each day and handpump the water to you|0 Go home and chill Hes in a very high risk category and we dont know truly who has this or not|0 Cultural aspects only explain it to some extent Its also the law of large numbers at work Ibiza natives for example would hardly claim Chinese tourists are the worst|0 Theres only been one president that actually cares about the people and thats Jimmy Carter Politicians dont have your interest at heart whether Democrat or republican|1 Wonderful Sending my love to the people of Italy |1 Yes Thats certainly possible Its coldflu season and the testing regime for COVID19 is onerous enough that anyone exhibiting symptoms is likely quarantined Theres a lot of statistical noise coming out of Hubei|1 Are there any good examples |1 Youll never be able to get this man to do something he doesnt want to do again for the rest of his life A 101 year old man is already the definition of giving zero fucksone that just beat coronavirus If this man wants to cross the street in his wheelchair naked everyday now then thats what hes going to do|1 I didnt know theres been more than one coronavirus and I didnt think it was that popular to the point it had its own subreddit My comment was just statin Im surprised it had a sub for so longPS Youre an idiot if you think what I said is me cosigning on a conspiracy|0 Jewish citizens Im sure the Palestinians with terrible infrastructure run down hospitals lack of water etc can just go pound sand|0 Ill be honest Ive been looking to my state governor as the de facto commander in chief of the land for the past week even though he could still be doing a much better job and not hiding behind decadesold laws as justification for putting outbreak case reports on a fucking slow drip|1 Most transplant teams would not allow a cruise ever Or a buffet restaurant Thats crazy Has she even contacted her team I know one guy who was doing ok on dialysis decided to hold off on a transplant just so he could go on more cruises|0 There was a story of reporters in Italy being approached for interviews by people in quarantine it was only being enforced on the roads so people just walked through fields to escape I dont think its a nationality thing People are people|1 Some of the healthiest professional athletes in the world arent playing ball for millions of dollarsbut make sure your kids are in school|1 That sounds like a good idea|1 Thanks god|1 I just did a reverse image search for the chart That was on my phone Not sure if this will work For everybodyhttpi4cdnorgint1582519505765jpg|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Then their visit is meaningless and is only for propaganda and is intended to mislead the world|0 Well we ought to be talking of what has been the case so far with predictions Things can change but until they do the rest of Chinas numbers have not been big And there are people who dont know all details reading the posts so they ought to know what has been the trend so far|1 Officially paralyzed this kind of rhetoric is misleading and incites unnecessary panic|0 im glad to know your family has not been exposed and is outside the risk range stay safe|1 Kinda happens wen u down play it and say its just a flu noting to worry about Poeple will not worry and go on whit life|0 My uncle 65 year old diabetic told me today that thisll be over soon Trump said an antidote will be ready in about 6 weeks Trumps rhetoric is dangerous|0 They normally close down one of the largest city on the planet for flu outbreaks right So this is more proof this is jUst LiKE tHe FlU as so many have been saying since this started|0 idea organise with a small group of parents to look after the all kids for one or two weeks each at a time Kids are not completely isolated but better than being at school and a balanced approach for working parents|1 So theres credibility to these newsFUCKYou beat it on one battlefield and then it comes back with a new technique and with a vengeance If this crap isnt bioengineered its a freak of nature from the worst nightmare|0 Well in another sub I just replied to a paramedic who said this will be over in a few weeks with minimal deaths and it will be far less impactful than the flu and well all realize we are idiots How do you combat that when hes literally the one whos supposed to be taking this the most seriously|0 The CDC wants it to spread There is no other explanation A third grader could come up with a better plan|1 Its like I told my mom earlier today America didnt really lose its shit about this until their sportsball games started getting cancelled Its all fun and games until the balls stop flying|1 How much further do you reckon this will go Are the measures currently taken sufficient How was China able to stop the exponential growth of infected|0 Have to get through the short term to make it to long term This virus is hard to kill and keeps on coming back in some Some will be infectious multiple times|0 Thanks I missed that report Do you have a link Ill look for it too I see the lancet article linked in the tweetEdit is it this one that isnt peer reviewed and is in preprint httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020020720021154v1|0 Thats what I call c rations Have plenty of those If this doesnt go down Im sure they will sit in my pantry until I throw them out in 3 years|1 Here in Las Vegas the international tourist body fluid capital of the US they are only reporting 2 cases so far I dont want to see people here that depend on tourism lose their jobs but that number is absolute bullshit SNDH and Gov Sisolak are putting people in danger by refusing to test not tracking people who are exposed not closing schools not urging large gatherings of people to reconsider meetings not urging the public to be safe and practice proper hygiene not trying to combat the spread in the huge homeless population that lives in the sewers not urging Universities to go to online instruction not trying to combat hoarding or price gouging Nevada Gov Sisolak and SNDH seem to just be praying that COVID19 will go away and their goals seem to be focused on preventing a loss of revenue over preventing loss of life Its frustrating and stupid|0 I hadnt noticed until you pointed it out but I fucking hate it too I associate it with Stephen a Smith and it seems the world wants to be like him or certainly have increased acting like him in recent years Just say the first thing that comes to your head and SHOUT IT at people|1 Where do you find 3 masks I want a dozen|1 Hahah I just call it beer camp because I dont remember the name of the program and that is what it felt like I did not feel like I won anything because that whole ordeal cost me like 15 grand maybe more with beer camp being probably 2k That said maybe I did win because the DUI ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me I quit drinking the next day and havent had a drop since July will be 4 years My life got EXPONENTIALLY better after that on so many levels So I guess it actually was 15k well spent|1 Japan has National Health Insurance and members mostly pay 30 of the actual cost So yes generally they are not as equipped as private hospitals in US But coronavirus patients now are only allowed in specific hospitals with certain standards And I think they are treated with utmost care because theyre foreign coronavirus patients Fingers crossed for your uncle and your family|1 And yet a hospitalization rate for 019 that is lower than seasonal influenza and not even particularly closeYou look at this data and just wish that you could knock a few opposing chess pieces off the board versus this virus We could take nearly a quarter of the population right out of the game with ease The only question is howEDIT I continue to be amazed by how age skewed this is Were talking almost 1000x worse for 80 year olds than kids in school Three orders of magnitude Wow Just insane stuff here|1 In 13 weeks when your staff is all getting ill and people around you are dying and there are no masks period the same folks who are telling you that you are irresponsible are going to be begging you for an improvised mask and probably not apologizing for criticizing you nowI would def considering making some|0 China changed how they report new cases 3 days ago they only report confirmed infected now if they test positive and have symptoms If they have no symptoms and test positive they are no longer reported as new cases Thats why your seeing a drop in new cases|0 Most ppl dont realize that most ppl are still walking around saying flu is worse I corrected someone on social media today who said influenza has mortality rate of 7 while this SARS2 is 2 and got hounded with insults for stating the true numbers according to WHO Humans are dumb as fack|0 Im sure there is but the only reason I know is because my cousin wants to go there for her bachelorette party|1 Yeah seems likely the 1 fatality rate is a function of poor testing|0 I was trying to not be cynical for at least one Reddit comment|1 Literally points out that Hong Kong bots were spamming propaganda against the movement in WuhanThe AMERICAN propaganda is sOooOooOoooO strongThe lack of selfawareness here is astoundingThen again you dont care about that do you Mr go on call me a cpc shill it wont bring back your dead mother nor will it change my opinion |0 Best beautiful bullets|1 I just copied the article for people too lazy to use incognito But I had heard about it It made the rounds through other subs|0 I wasnt sidestepping shit my point still stands Journalists issue retractions after releasing bad information Alex Jones just tries to sell more penis enhancement pills|0 I think youve missed the mark saying the most dangerous thing about this disease is socialunrest So far what weve seen is the biggest danger is overwhelming your healthcare system This disease puts 10 20 of people who get it in the hospital If hospitals exceed capacity and begin to turn people away the case fatality rate doubles Under a strained medical system everyone who needs healthcare is impacted Cancer patients influenza patients pregnanciesanyone who would go to a hospital if there wasnt an outbreakare now receiving suboptimal careOverwhelmed hospitals is something weve seen throughout endemic areas Social unrest is something we havent seen anywhere yet|0 Absolutely not paranoid This shit is 3x more contagious than fluLook the entire country is slowly going to slow down a lot then all will come back jobs tooHealth once is gone is gone|1 Nine days My personal hygiene is woefully unprepared for the challenges of the 21st century|0 Except it didnt The rest of Asia has been able to contain it There was panic buying and it was scary but nothing like what I am seeing on US media Half the country doesnt give a shit and still going to parties and spring break while the other half is terrified|0 Agreed and well said I am a bit frustrated each time someone says to stay home if youre elderly or stay home if you show symptoms Yes stay home if youre in those groups but please stay home if youre reasonably able to do so Some people will be going out to do hard needed work to keep the country fed distribute goods and police the streets and all the other public services that are so valued Some people will not have the financial ability to stay home If you are someone that can stay home please do so The vaccination analogy is a good one each of us that can distance protects the entire community and nation Even people that cannot stay home|1 Dont worry I mean whats the worst case scenario shttpsphiladelphiaencyclopediaorgarchiveinfluenzaspanishflupandemic191819|0 Hypothetical but highly possible scenarioAn atrisk individual is advised by medical professionals to either selfquarantine or is placed under some sort of controlled quarantine Said individual skips out and infects others potentially putting the community at risk and threatening livesShouldnt there be a means of enforcement a significant penalty for noncompliance Without this the medical guidance has no teeth Its justguidanceLook at the woman in South Korea yesterday She was advised to be tested twice but refused it and proceeded to infect dozens putting lives at risk and an entire city and honestly all of South Korea in a panicThere needs to be enforcement and the threat of a penalty If you read the article there are a range of possible penalties with the 2year sentence being the worst caseTaiwan is not in lockdown People arent suffering or lacking foodwater We have 24 confirmed cases here would very much like to see that number not blow up And indeed there have been a few isolated cases where people have skipped out on quarantineI believe the government is doing the right thing here|0 I stopped telling people Ive been called weird and paranoid|0 whats taking so long Is Doug stuck in traffic|0 Yes He had been kinda thinking about quitting for awhile but this was all he needed for the push|1 I was talking about the lack of civil rights It shouldnt surprise anyone|0 Right but the way we are currently testing only people with serious symptoms are actually getting tested we wont ever know how many people got corona and just didnt notice or had no symptoms at allWhich is a double edged sword because it causes the virus to spread faster but also is less harmful than what the numbers will ever say|0 If its any comfort your wifes risk is likely quite low Unless shes immune compromised or has pulmonary disease her risk is a fraction of a percent We dont have a breakdown of the deaths to date but judging from other viral pulmonary illness the chance of a healthy person dying of COVID19 is probably 03 or less|1 Hopefully the salary is doubled or tripled for you otherwise it aint even worth the risk Family always comes first no matter the cost Best wishes to you and family|1 Sometimes I feel like the best I can do is get my best black clothes to the dry cleaner going to be a lot of funerals this year|1 100Im very fortunate to be able to work from home|1 I think it depends on the pharmacy Local ones might fill it with a prescription asking for it but big ones like CVS will absolutely not if its a C1 I forget if the lower number is more regulated|0 I know I have a do not touch nest egg but definitely being careful|1 Why even pay for trash times|0 Second is the top loser|0 If it has been in Iran for monthsGiven that today is the 21st of February just about two months since anybody even in Wuhan was noticing an odd cluster of pneumonia it seems unlikely to have been in Iran for months plural|0 Yeah its getting ridiculous how regular people cant get testedThey need to figure out this testing thing|0 Yes which is why its ludicrous to take every video coming out as gospel right now people have bad motives and theyre magnified in times of crisis the good and bad|0 Moron No some of the vitamin A studies show it is effective even if there is no deficiency Doses much larger than dietary intake are given The last study used 500000iu in small children That is about 200400x typical recommended intake|0 My father predicted Id be a Republican as soon as I owned property He was wrong However there are definitely things that happen along the way that happen to every generationI recall a prof reading out a complaint made back in ancient Babylonia or some such a scribe bemoaning his son hanging around the marketplace with his friends and ignoring his scribe studies|0 This thing is a monster It can make men sterile Of any age It attacks the happy sacks It attacks many organs with ace II receptors the lungs are just one of them Including the brain It can leave permeant damage Most scary of all once you get better it seems you can be re infected with your own virus Ie not catch it from some else Hence starting the cycle over again Fuck is all I can say|0 He should tell my friends and family that|1 Typical Idaho I am afraid for Idaho I have a feeling its not going to be pretty|1 Perfectly clear why numbers on diagnosis are incredibly under reported Its the same with HIV Shitty tests cause onward transmission|1 Well to be fair I asked my question first Was China doing the safe and responsible thing for its citizens yes or no|1 Quarantine ends on the 19th February for everyone except close contacts of confirmed cases who must remain for 14 days after last contact with the case Apparently Japan plans to have all 3600 tested by that date but Im not sure about the viability of this option See WHO situation report 9 Febhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusesituationreports20200209sitrep20ncovpdfsfvrsn6f80d1b94 and this press conference 10 Febhttpsyoutube86WLDRm3Xqw Skip to 1742 for the question about the cruise ship|0 Anyone have an idea on how bad this will effects aviation mechanics|0 There are no mods as far as I can tell They opened the sub and left the next day|0 Selling it when its all out and people are desperate|0 this is something we observe with influenza tooif it kills you it will often be very fast|0 Starting to feel like Im not crazy to assume we have been lied to this whole time|1 The extent of fine aerosol contagion is unclear It has infected people in hospitals but may not be a significant issue in a more open environment In any event closing the windows cant hurt|0 Pride greed and ignorance are the reasons that pop out to me as to why people arent being proactive|0 Oh my gosh I just left my job at an ER a couple weeks ago and I cant imagine them not having any We just had a TB patient recently its not like its just the coronavirus There was also a gas leak a few weeks ago some kind of gas scented with sulfur and staff started doling out N95 masks to all the patients since we werent evacuating Other people pointed out that this wouldnt actually be a barrier for the gas but they continued since it would calm people down They wasted quite a few I mean no one would have expected there would be a shortage but that sucks|0 We need to stop calling it COVID19 coronavirus We need to call it what it is China flu just like how the Spanish were blamed for the Spanish Flu of 1918|0 Thank you for also including the news that essential oils and things like that are NOT cures The fact that this actually needs an official government warning makes me weep for humanity|0 Its safe to say we pretty much either all have it or gonna become infected at some point its inevitable|1 Comic drawn by a holocaust denier whose subreddit was banned because it was a NeoNazi platform I can only wonder why he has issues with being called an antisemite|0 Wouldnt last long Obese gun nut vs a reaper drone|0 If we knew who did and didnt have the virus with even a little more certainty than we do now we wouldnt have to necessarily shut everything down Or at least not for as long And it could be independent shutdowns based on the location in the USWithout data were flying blind We let it get away from us at the gate with limited testing|0 Some of your best work yet Keep it up comrade|1 Nah hes just an idiot|0 Masks are gone for both people and companies what is on your personal shelf or in the office supply closet is it I woodwork and reload ammunition as hobbies so I thankfully have masks at home from that but if I wanted to go get more that probably wouldnt happen unless I got lucky|1 Do we trust that in nchina discharged means better Or do they just get pushed out the door|1 Youre better off without that idiot He sounds like the kind that would bring it to you just to prove its fake Sorry hes not supportive|1 I wish it only were the 8M March but there were also plenty of political meetings because there are elections in two regions of northern Spain Galicia and Basque Country the Fallas in Valencia were stopped today and football matches with public I personally think it will hit harder than in many other countries China took it really seriously stopping the country for 2 weeks Italy had measures too and many other countries in Europe are reacting far more quickly than in Spain A lot of elderly people will die because they want to give a good image Its just so wrong|0 praying to reddit gods that this somehow gets upvoted to top|1 Youre trying to fortify your argument by saying so extremely that they act in a way that endangers a groupI agree I never said the contrary Stop making easy arguments to make yourself look good its the definition of pathetic And as for my feelings I never stated my feelings I was discussing how others might deal with a problem Again youre making up arguments|0 The aki resorts were ordered closed Give me strength|1 Yeah I never meant it would never happen with the panic shopping just that 16 days ago we werent there yet I think small areas will quarantine but not the whole country|0 Thats why WHO played a huge part in this as I have stated The WHO told the world that travel restrictions against China wasnt needed Quite a few countries already knew this was nothing but straight up BS but there are a great deal more governments who did not pretended not to know and US and Italy werent among them They were among the first few countries to set travel restrictions against China but because other countries did not infected cases were seeping through the cracks Clueless infected Chinese tourists were bypassing the travel ban by transiting through other countries infecting others during their transit who then travel to another part of the world and into the US and UK and Italy and everywhere thats been fucked by the virusThe entire narrative that the US and Europe did nothing and allowed the virus to spread is absolutely wrong Especially in the case of Italy as they even banned travelling from Taiwan It wasnt that they pretended it didnt happen it was they were mislead by the WHO and the statistic and didnt do nearly enough to contain the spread|0 Speed virus response They are the ones already slowing it downGood god Ill give him credit if he ever comes around and actually helps here I swear I will But this shit is disgusting and someone just needs to take over and do it better|0 Renewal by Anderson I seriously just had a door to door sales guy come to my house When I called the company their response was thats what we do this time of year Absurd But hey on the plus side I know Ill never buy from them|0 Im literally defending the rights and promoting that it is a good idea for them to have an hour|1 Well at least one of those is already probably already suffering an outbreak|0 I will try this thank you|1 A disease that affects the nervous system Such as meningitis|0 Ive send you a another response regarding the language barrier etc maybe we can continue to conversation there I just cant see it working for a lot of reasonsThe US has send medical supplies and is working with Chinese scientists on a cure Why would allowing them inside fix anythingFirst of all if things are being covered up thatll happen regardless of a few Americans in WuhanSecondly how are they going to cooperate discuss without being able to speak the same languageThird what benefit is there that they can offer on the frontlines Im assuming helping patients How With google translate I dont think youve thought this through|1 Just letting people know that Im going to start blocking everyone who tries to lecture me that I deserve my poverty because Im supposedly an inferior form of life to you Please dont reply because I dont want to hear it|0 Hes going to Italy Well he wont be coming back any time soon Change the damn locks I cant believe how stupid he could be going to a country that already is putting towns on lockdown to minimize the spread|1 I downloaded is yesterday and played with coronavirus Damn Canada killed me Same old story|0 Restaurants are a no go every year during flu season This year that no go is going to be much longer|0 Thank you for this work and may God bless you|1 Equally the govt may be accounting for that which I would assume they are given they are waiting for the harsh restrictions when we reach the peak Id like to think they have thought through the fact that not everyone will obey|0 I love workbooks I actually have a full shelf full and curate worksheets for the day for my jk son and 3 year old daughter Im a bit of a nerd I usually buy the ones from Costco|1 Yes Holy shit indeed|0 No ones gonna get put in a camp for eating bats|0 Far left goverment Yeah sure|1 Dont politicise this while you defend the only government on the planet that is ignoring the general scientific community I hope youre being paid well for writing this crap|0 if you call China a shithole the earth is a shithole too there are so many democratic worse shitholes like India Philippines Pakistan African countries Ukraineall worse than China totalitarian really Have you been there Lucky that they dont become democratic Iraq or Syria made by USA|0 Ty where are you posting em|1 Its like I understand the Flu is worse The CDC reported a few days ago that the past week they saw a decline in Flu numbers Which is good The same cant be said for Coronavirus which is a new virus and is spreading person to person Plus there is no vaccine for it Experts still dont fully understand this virusEven with the Flu being worse there is a vaccine for it Its only about 40 to 60 effective The Flu version going around now is H1N1 Type A Earlier in the season it was Type B And the Flu is targeting young peopleI wish theyd stop comparing apples to oranges Is it good that the Flu for which there is a vaccine yet its still targeting young people a good thing Whereas we also now have Coronavirus which is spreading exponentially with no vaccine And on a side note here in America doctors are not checking patients showing symptoms unless theyve been to China or around someone who has Well never have a true number of how many people have Coronavirus nor how many have died from it They dont want to cause a panic Its already spooking global stock markets|0 Lol|1 Got it good one I have actually been hoping this would wake some of them up Im shocked that it hasnt Even a little bit|1 Lol|1 No theyll just diversify factories in two other cheaper countries instead of the one Though honestly even though China was the source of this theyre also one of the few countries that have implemented successful containment They might be seen as more reliable in the face of black swan events after all is said and done The US is facing a fade from relevance like Britain in the last century if it cant get its shit together|1 So many people have been lied to There has to be an accounting for that later|0 TranslationZhongshan Nans team isolated neocoronavirus from a patients urine specimenFang QingGuangzhou Daily full media reporter Fang Qing The reporter of Guangzhou Daily learned yesterday from the team of Professor Zhao Jincun an expert of the academician Zhong Nanshan and the deputy director of the State Key Laboratory of Respiratory Diseases that the new coronavirus was isolated from the stool samples of patients with new coronary pneumonia On February 19 under the guidance of Academician Zhong Nanshan the team once again identified the new type of coronavirus from a urine sample of a patient with a new type of coronavirus pneumonia under the United Nations Key Laboratory of Biosafety Testing P3 laboratory The sample was a urine specimen provided by the First Affiliated Hospital of Guangzhou Medical UniversityThe research team successfully isolated a new coronavirus strain using Vero E6 cells The genome sequencing and virological identification of the virus has been completedThe research team said that the above research confirmed the existence of live virus in patients urine and combined with the previous findings of virus isolation in feces reminded the public to pay more attention to personal and family cleanliness such as washing hands after using the toilet paying attention to the drainage of toilets and flushing toilets Cover up to avoid possible spread|0 Im afraid youre right also Faux News today not my TV was complaining that Democrats were stalling on the solution|0 Sounds just like me So happy Im not having to me out in that mess|1 Could get worseVery cool very legal|1 No China fucked the whole world It started there and they did nothing for several weeks until it grew out of control Morons like you think its cool to blame the US for everything|0 Fucked up as it may be this could very well be a beneficial evolution of society in disguise|0 There is nothing to debate about the effectiveness of masks We all knew they helped Of course we are told other things becase there is a shortageIt gets more and more frustrating to see people asking this pointless question Masks help both to keep you from getting sick and the sick person fro spreading itThe problem is when you have a shortage the worst case has to be masked and that would be the sick coughing person That helps lessen the droplets spreading in the air If they are wearing it correctlyWhy do you think it I was mandatory in China to wear a mask Sick or healthy Because it lessens the chance of disease on both sidesThis has never been a mystery No matter what people were told and those that choose to believe what you are told over doing your own research are just reaching the tip of the ice berg on believing what you are told in regard to this virusTo those that are still spreading political memes about this virus I truly feel sorry for you When your blinders come off you will be standing in front of a battlefield without a weapon|0 This can still happen What individuals do matters People can make institutions respond by voicing their concerns We do have the internet now I could learn how to use Zoom etc Below is a transcript from March 11th Alberta COVID update This is definitely an improvement But youre absolutely right we could do more I think we could probably explicitly recommend selfisolating to anyone returning from international travel Perhaps people coming back from Las Vegas should also be selfisolating Or New York Pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cured bacon No wait Thats not right Based on this evolving information Alberta is now asking all travellers returning from Italy to selfisolate for 14 days have passed since their last visit In addition to this all travelers returning to Alberta from anywhere outside Canada should consider limiting attendance at large public gatherings and most importantly should closely monitor themselves for any symptoms such as fever or coughIf they experience symptoms they should immediately selfisolate if they get these symptoms and call Health Link at 811 for assessment and testinghttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvqqbevPiMAeQfeatureyoutubelistPLvrD8tiHIX1L5LKwB0kl4aJjkK4OuElhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvqqbevPiMAeQfeatureyoutubelistPLvrD8tiHIX1L5LKwB0kl4aJjkK4OuEl|1 Hurr durr communism bad i have never read anything about communismSure And you read manynot only communist manifesto but all classics of marxism I guess Phttpsikymcdncomphotosimagesoriginal0014633747c8jpghttpsikymcdncomphotosimagesoriginal0014633747c8jpg PAnd you can only test so many cases a day so its normal that the confirmed cases are lower than expectedWhile the subject isChinese StateOwned Caijing Magazine report that a lot of death cases classified as normal pneumonia and didnt countIf anybody would believe you and your bullshit that confirmed cases mean dead cases then fear mongering would be a thing done actually BY YOU Pif you as a doctor got a patient with fever cough and sore throat would you instantly know its a new diseaseMaybe notbut I wouldnt arrest the doctors who say it is new disease for fear mongeringI wouldnt accept leaving it without investigation for a month I wouldnt keep lying all the time to the point where I must close fucking 11 million citizen city because of 100 or 1000 ill people denying in the same time it is H2H It was PUNY and PITIFUL I couldnt be so incompetent to let hundreds of thousands people already leave the city before official declaring the quarantineBut exactly so dumb are Chinese communists who did it exactly as I described|0 Why of all industries have you decided cremation runs three shifts I love near an industrial area Not one factory runs more than one shift Thats 200 excess capacity I can guarantee you most of those factories are full of equipment a lot more expensive than an oven Every factory there runs 5 shifts Theoretically you could run 21 shifts per week Thats over 300 excess capacity In every factory|1 You said I have this ongoing suspicion that the reported median contagion time of 3 days from that China study with 1k patients is really an underestimateWhich would imply that the median incubation time is longer than that However there is no evidence for this Even the report you linked showed that after symptomatic people are quarantined the rate of new infections quickly drop Your comment is complete speculation And to answer your note about data being fishy the reason why the effect is so drastic very shortly after the 23rd is that the vast vast majority of cases were in the province where the lookdown was performed at that timepoint|0 Lol wish I could I went to place an order recently to me in nyc and apparently amazon Lowes and Home Depot are all sold out|1 And condemning 14 as per the statistics of fatality rates in our over 80s population millions to death|0 Ive been thinking the same thing Im trying to only shop where I know employers will not allow sick workers and will have them covered|1 Its always old dicks at the top who have never ever give a fuck about peoples life that make all those decisions|1 Ive paused to think of this many times in the last few weeks I also watch the actions as opposed to the words spoken which is why Im down voted by people for everything I say I dont care about that though and I dont know the future but it doesnt look very promising in my honest opinion I think the effects are already showing themselves in the west when it comes to global supply chains although Im nowhere near qualified to actually speak about the state of the supply chains but maybe the west is swiftly acting as they are based on an incentive to make sure those dont fall apart I believe its well known that this would cause a serious global recession if it isnt taken care of in China very soon|1 I havent seen anything suggesting that the entirety of that 80 contracted pneumonia Its also incredibly unlikely I cant imagine there being nearly 18 asymptomatic and then as soon as you develop a symptom bam pneumonia Best guess on what shes referring to is something floating around that China included mild pneumonia in the 80 of mild cases but these would have been if I remember correctly cases that would likely clear up on their own|1 Same thing happened in iran but no one paid attention We need to act now before its too late Politicians who ignore this and went buisness as usual are directly being punished|0 MarchMay is autumn far from the middle of summer however our temps are still quite warm at least|1 Thats exactly right but every small time investor is going to be putting out sell orders with their brokerages over the weekend Im probably wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that on Monday the market is going to have its single biggest overall loss in the recorded history of the NYSE|0 Praise the Lord and pass the TP|1 It literally has more procorporate laws than the USSocialist my ass they do have a nice social safety net but from what I heard its getting harder to maintain as an increasing portion of the population just lives off welfare and never contributes to it|1 Well today I had to work with my coworkers all day who were coughing and sneezing Stressing me out|0 At this point after so much argument and bully I have received I wish this actually teaches these people some lesson who live in their bubble of normalcy bias|0 Thx for the warning I know of course i mined Bitcoin for a while and already donated computer power to seti But good advise for everyone else Btw in winter its not that bad cause alot of the power is converted to heat|1 Somebody please tell me how people are still able to just fly in from China no questions askedAm I the only one who thinks this is absolutely nuts Have I missed something|0 Have the military doctorsmedical personnel been called upon to help yet|1 Mathematicians specifically statisticians do the modelling Virologist study the disease the maths guys study the numbers both are used in combination along with behavioural science used because it is not a medical science but a social science which can never provide proof and requires interpretation I am sure these guys have done rudimentary modelling with stats available and have a legitimate valid voice|1 Get that partial unemployment I know I will Ill be damned happy if I can take a break from the world of working 12 hours a day five days a week to be with my family for a forced staycation for two or so weeks|0 It is but the more I read about the wet market a giant one next to a nationally important rail link I am thinking what if the intermediary hostcurrent hot theory was also getting infected and that was the partial driver in infection and the whole thing started in the shadows much earlier and the Wuhan wet market is just the first site of superspreading and the Chinese were trying to contain this and the Wuhan wet market became the nexus for tracing in the early daysSo if you were within the confines of the Wuhan wet market the R0 rate was ridiculously high but smaller as your exposure lowered in the community and any black site for slaughter of any possible host speciesDNA analysis suggests the disease done in one single jump in a single source which begs the question how many people initially got infected from the catching to slaughter to transport to meatThe issue of relying on early statistics for something that has mild symptoms is you might never find all the early patients even if you really tried this is not a disease that always results in high hospitalization ratesThe cruise ship must have a very high R0 rate if we treat it as a closed system as wellAuthors done the calculations and point to the high infectious rates in the early daysI guess I dont disagree in that it has such a rate in a certain environment but the policy implications could be to avoid having such superspreading environments over giant China quarantine everywhere|0 This is true however reading and knowing the horrors of the day also doesnt make them go away either You cannot realistically pretend none of this is happening nor should you try but if your doing what you should be doing why do you need to know exactly what is going on in every country in the world Though it may feel like solidarity you are under no obligation to witness the suffering of othersI would argue that weeks ago it would be important to follow the news because it would help you get out ahead of whats coming but at this point unless something miraculous happens we are pretty much in the new status quoAt this point keeping up with the CDCWHOYour local officials is keeping informed enough in my opinion and probably more than most people who dont use reddit a lot are doing|1 Yeah all stores can be open|1 Actually I say this without taking a deeper look into the virus mind you it sounds like septic shock The reason many patients die from pneumonia is that they develop sepsisseptic shock|0 With a username like yours why do you keep saying shit like this Do you know something the rest of us dontPlease share with the rest of the class Enlighten us|1 It was the humans gratitude that changed us and brought us to a new phase of evolution If it werent for their incredible stupidity and incompetence in handling the COVID19 virus we may have never been able to achieve the great heights we have today May we never forget their sacrifice First penguin astronaut circa 2103|1 Better dead than redSounds amazing but when push comes to shove and dead implies throwing not only your own life but the lives of your loved ones away idk to me it becomes a lot more complicated than Cold War propaganda Silly issue anyway Democracies clearly can only survive if they act reasonably and protect life in the face of crises|0 Careful Don Cherry lost his job when he said you people but yeah Im from Canada and even with our heavily anti trump news sources I can tell this guy hasnt got a clue what the facts are And it doesnt matter nothing me or you could ever say will convince this one we arent russian trolls Occasions like these you just wanna grab some popcorn and keep poking this jellyfish|1 I thought they changed the average from 986 f to 97 point something I saw it on thr news for sure with in the past year or two Also i have alwsys been told unless its over 100 you dont have a fevee becuase 99 point anything can be reached easily and most have it that high randomly So i wouldnt be concerned about almost 99 but is the average really that Is it different in other countrjes then from the US|1 Ya thats a fair point|1 Do you think the lack of testing is keeping them from acknowledging the scope or just unwillingness to take the hard steps|0 The worse I have seen is someone complaining and saying that laws should be in place so she could have access to some masks|0 Favorite recipes|1 He is also a piece of shit who would buy pharmaceutical companies take their IP and slash their RD budgets He has limited the capacity for private research in this country and should not be listened to for anything even if he is rightEditGoogle Novartis to see the shit he did|0 You tell them theyre more worried about the economy than people dying Thats something thats universally understood all of our governments would trade our health for an economy that appears good|1 What you need to take into account is that this study includes all the old resolved cases as well as all the recent cases that havent resolved yet So correct older data shows higher ratios and ratio in this study will update as more cases resolve It is useful though to highlight differences in risk levels even if final ratios are not yet available Its almost impossible to pinpoint a CFR in the midst of an emerging outbreak for many reasons It can go up over time for example if more cases resolve by ending in death Alternatively it can go down for example if milder cases layer come to light I think what is unique about this particular disease is the sheer number of infections that are occurring due to it being highly contagious and here being no immunity in the population If you have an enormous number of people infected even relatively low fatality ratios can still result in large numbers of total people dead|0 Actually encouraging people to attempt this with homebrew hardware would be too irresponsible for my liking Properly fused power supplies of a sufficient voltage for electrospinning are generally lab equipment not something youd just have lying around and the inadequately fused kVrange power supplies most people have access to eg from a CRT arent safe enough to be a viable optionAnyone with the right engineering background and equipment to attempt this properly wont need an explanation on isolation methods and should be able to find all the processrelated info they need from primary literature Afaik there are no YouTube tutorials for MESIf you do have an appropriate background to attempt this PM me and I can give you papers and contact info for some researchers active in the field for guidance|0 now thik that he went around six hospitals and infected everyone there during the already symptomatic period|0 There is the possibility that if you have to VPN to your companys intranet that the companys systems do not have the available ports to support a sudden rush of everyone or majority or whatever attempting to connect|1 But that one Australian lady was fine|1 Out of season does not mean a virus wont spread at all though Things like temperature can potentially reduce transmissions but not be expected to completely stop themhttpsvirologydownundercomwpcontentuploads201904FluAUSTRALIAhistoricalNDSS15APR2019png So it looks like there were 10686 confirmed flu cases for March 2019 in Australia outside of their flu season which is usually around June to SeptemberCoronavirus has spread in Australia to two or three people confirmed the others aquired it while traveling out of countryhttpsenwikipediaorgwiki2020coronavirusoutbreakinAustralia|0 Except its not a time of emergency There is no declaration of emergency yet on the State or Federal level|1 I wore a vogmask on a flight back from California a few weeks ago because I have a fragrance sensitivity and the person sharing my row pulled out some super fragranced wipes and wiped down everything including the air ventilation She moved seats very soon after my mask came out but Ive never had anyone be noticeably rude|0 We had this discussion yesterday already and there are different studies available Some say ACE2 inhibitors are bad but some say they could be good and helpfulSee httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgfspiimacriticalcaredoctorworkinginaukhcidfk48mn2httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfgfspiimacriticalcaredoctorworkinginaukhcidfk48mn2|1 They want that march break money Them saying our park is open to healthy Americans means nothing as its proven that you will get the virus and not know you are incubating it until symptoms show up 1014 days later|1 Im assuming because a low white blood cell count is one of the most common symptoms of Covid 19 that this is their reasoning But if they drew blood to learn that then they had the capacity to test for other things like bacterial pneumonia So something is fishy here|1 I dont think n95 is single use But it has a working time limits like few hours|1 No they arent|0 my BP is horrible even with the meds Cheers Best of luck to ya|1 Ah thanks just wanted to check We really should be telling people not just kids to stay home for 21 days not 14 then here|1 Really good article I said most of this to my husband a couple of weeks ago and he laughed Just forwarded this to him Doubt hell read it hasnt read anything else I have sent Hes like 95 of the population and doesnt give a crap Everyone should read this|1 So no plan Lots of hot air|0 Thats all good and a step in the right direction but what about people who will be laid off due to the strain of this virus and lose their health insurance as a result It just seems shitty that you can lose your health insurance due toa health crisis|0 Yo the median age of Uganda is 15 wtf|0 Yes all news are talking about how serious IT is 247 We just need to provide more masks and respirators to hospitals because u cant buy them in drug stores just online cause stupid people are buying drugs and masks That they dont need as much |0 Looks like a normal Sams Club on a busy day and those carts arent overly full for panic buying|0 What about Freedom tons|1 Scary stuff |0 Whatever helps him win an election|1 On the flip side this subways and schools must remain operational bullshit is why many business are not closing in NYC And they are steadfast in their refusal to do what other cities are doing even when it comes to getting meals to kids from those schools rather than the shit show disaster waiting to happen Ive seen everyday the last two weeks working in and commuting to ManhattanEither way its a matter of days now until NYC hospitals are overrun If Cuomo truly believed the numbers he thinks are out there but for lack of testing hed demand they close the schools Public transport should be for essential services only otherwise they are virus spreading machines I WANT them to get testing and ignore the feds too so that they wake up and start shutting the city down as well Deblasio did the same shit with refusing to shut schools down for a blizzard that crippled the city a few years back|1 If he brings back a disease that kills me Id prefer he at least had fun on the trip|0 Id usually never ever suggest security because youre usually by yourself but now thats the point|0 Following your logic and i have some data that we do develop long term immunity vaccines are out of the table Also expect not only seasonality but actually countries that never get out of this problem as the virus will simply move over the same population over and over again|0 Us americans are used to being in a massive country where you can travel a thousand miles and still be surrounded by Americans Its not ignorance its just that we never have to tell anyone were American unlike somewhere in Europe since there are so many countries packed into a small area the people are much more used to saying what country theyre from as opposed to what town or state So yes I guess you could say we assume everyone knows we are american not so much out of ignorance but out of habit|1 Not exclusivelyyou have to supplement with other foods at about 6 months because the babys iron stores start to run low But breast milk is still recommended for a year plusin combination with solid food not by itself|1 Ill make a prediction right now Countries which do as above will have a worse economic recovery than countries that dont after the crisis In terms of GDP per capita specificallyyou are now a moderator of rwallstreetbets|0 After the coronavirus pandemic finally calms down its going to be viscerally clear which of our institutions value human life and which simply dont|1 Im interested in your criticism of them Could you elaborate using less ambiguous words or by providing sources|0 Is there another authority you could bring your evidence to If you have evidence that china is lying about the death count you shouldnt keep it to yourself Any ideas|0 I am pulling out of my memory only sorry wish I had a source but if I recall correctly about double the risk of complications compared to a nonsmoker This might be bad data though because China has some of the worst air pollution in the world which is very similar in effects on the bodyx200BBottom line is stopping smoking will be greatly beneficial to your health so do it|0 No one did tell them They told them it was coldflu|0 General strike|0 I think this is why there hasnt been more action Events likely have some sort of clause that relies on an official declaring it a pandemic before they can act I hope this experience changes things in the future|1 I feel Im very greedy being AB|0 To be fair I was also counting on Italy to be minor and show us how superior western medical systems can control the virus Reality has set in for me now|1 Of course they are Right from the start theyve been trying to shift the blame particularly pointing to Americans as a potential source|0 Oooooh that is some commie asshole Chinese government loving bullshit Wonder if they smell said bullshit over all the bodies they claim to not be burning|0 This Funny thing is preppers have the same practical mentality the very rich have had basically forever Its the same reason rich people live in gated communities and dont like to be named in SEC filings When people know you have shit and can find out where you live the sociopaths show up at your door and try to take it|1 And no TP great|1 Ive worked remotely for about 2 years now It can be extremely isolating and difficult to manage Personal focus time management and sense of connection to coworkers can be difficult My advice is to keep to a schedule make sure you get out of your officeroom and into the sun a bit if you can Do not wake up and go directly to work Respect the time you would have spent commuting or getting ready Get ready Dress properly get a shower whatever you normally do Even if youre not teaching right nowx200BPick some new technology or course or something else to take online yourself to get some ideas for how to do it well or improve it There are PLENTY of free University courses available online that are basically as good as the real thing Check Coursea MIT open coursewaresp etc|1 The 1 rule of being prepared is to not let anyone know youre prepared The vast majority will mock you then when theres a problem will come to you for your supplies Its a group effort to minimize spread but its up to the individual for prepardness And most individuals will fall short but thats not your fault or your responsibility The information is widely available and people choose to ignore it until its to late|0 i was looking at masks on Amazon just yesterday in France and saw that prices were around 200300 for a pack of just two i thought it was suspicious but i actually didnt even think about price gouging most of those listings seem to have been removed now|0 BL4 labs are all near large population centers You think the people making these decisions care about ignoring the chronic consequences of an intervention|1 Money before the people its a great stance Dont test dont know how many have it All good for the numbers I just hope fluffy old Boris is paying attention to Italy|1 This is great I also just heard an additional 10 billion stimulus package for businesses was announced|1 Most schools around the world use whats called prusian model that was designed to produce compliant factory workers So yes its true Take a look how education looked like before it youll be surprised how different it was|1 THANK YOU People shouldnt have to rely on the grace of billionaires The only reason they get to be billionaires is because the structure of the country in which they live in enabled them to There needs to be policies in place in which they give back to the country that made them|1 Thanks|1 yes|1 Trump fake news|0 Is he sick|0 I missed it unfortunately Any nuggets|0 But perhaps all of our politicians who are old af will die or travel to another country for care and the people who survive can incite change|0 That was one of the first stories we did Well kinda Restaurant workers before any closures hit Im sure we will do another if and when Indiana shuts it down for real|1 Welcome to 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subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Sad to say but this is were socialism shines State wants masks Everyone and their uncle starts producing them And if they have to stitch them by handAt the same time over here in Germany some companies try to do a production shift Which wouldnt even be enough to equip the emergency services|0 If you think you could be having a heart attack go to the hospital|0 It is mainly useful when you are in a lot contact with viruses like eeehhh doctors and nurses Let them have the masks|1 Yes I can see you carrying six infected bottles in that pack there|0 It must be completely rampant in London who knew that a city that relies on an underground with 1 mask usage it would spread easily|1 Pathetic|0 theres wishfulthinking bias as well oh this will surely onle affect Asians Thats trueeither way need dataI agree We still dont know|1 Goddamit I like pie|1 Maybe it will be slowly getting back to normal by may Bright side Always hope|1 You have to take into account the average ages of the people on the boat too though A lot of old folks and fat fucks go on cruises because its the laziest vacation possible|0 The fact that you think the economy is being tanked by CHOICE is telling of your ignorance towards the situation|0 Theres no point telling people Just preparing for my family and if nothing happens great Its like any insurance policy You rarely use it Plus if people know theyll be knocking on my door when they need something|0 Of course R0 would be massively reduced if people wore PPE and were all locked down But the R0 of flu remains fairly low with next to no containment measures at all It simply spreads freelyThe R0 of Covid19 when no containment measures are in place is significantly higher than fluThere is absolutely no evidence to suggest the R0 will naturally reduce as you say The only thing that will reduce the R0 is significant containment measuresDespite R0 not being a set number different viruses do have very different transmission rates Covid19 is spreading faster and more efficiently than any flu|0 Every day Maybe not bringing tens of thousands But there are events with hundreds and thousands of people every single day here in NYC and Im pretty sure in other large cities as well|1 If you dont have a fever then youre probably good fever in like 80 of cases|1 Give over If it gets so bad the Schengen Area can be temporarily closed|0 People are panicking and buying way more than they need Its ridiculous|0 Yes|1 Trump Hey Pence why do you keep bringing these random people to shake my hand while you stand 20 feet away wearing a mask and gloves|1 I heard in some countries you have to pay to be quarantined|0 TIL Im brave |1 Id like to know this as well|1 this nicely summarizes the biggest problem right now the fear of fear|0 This should be the new standard Please do|1 more like 1 in 2000|1 Well that was a very wild ride|1 You should have read further when i said thank you to someone because i didnt knew that the news were already outAbout speaking German yes i do Or are you just trying to say that as a foreign i should be quiet and say Heil to everythingNow i get it about the teacher that i mentioned earlier Not all Germans think like that but i know a few The superior genes ones Look i get it You invented alot have great technology and so on but in the end that doesnt change the stuborn mentality And sorry but it is trueAnd btw i am not 247 on Reddit I dont see tv because honestly is boring And online i have not seen it until someone here mentioned it and i said Thank you 2 timesSo yeah Hope you are right Again i have kids and wouldnt want anything to get any further but you said it i am a doomer just because i failed the news Hope you feel better nowGood luck to Germany We sure need it like the rest of the world needs it too |1 Thanks No I was not aware of this And still I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe It defies common sense regarding the situation in Wuhan the measures in place and most foreign infections spread by Wuhanese If anything the situation in Wuhan must be considerably worse than admitted compared to other Chinese cities|0 Companies that take risks that cant be justified from a profit motive go bankruptProducing lung treatment equipment during a lung disease pandemic only to be turned away by the government is also a very dumb move And seeing that there is no competition rushing in to fill the void like it always happens when a corporation is making stupid decisions just look at Betamax vs VHS standard war their fears of being turned away may not be unfounded|0 The biggest problem country right now is Iran who admitted they knew the virus was wreaking havoc in their country as long as Jan 30thSpain just admitted a virus death today even the victim died Feb 13th|0 Woah NellyHe has requested 25bn which would go towards developing a vaccine and stockpiling protective gear like face masksLets just say we paid 2B to some drug company for the vaccine That is taxpayer money so we would already be paying them to develop it They are bypassing the one thing they constantly complain is the majority cost for bringing the drug to market FDA approvals and testing And oh yea lets not forget the people that may die by rolling snake eyes during the shortened human trial portion of this drugs release SOOO fuck you if we didnt already pay for it It should be free for every fucking American who pays taxes|0 It would be better if he had said wear a mask outside your home|1 Thank you As someone of childbearing age I hope more is known soon about how SARSCoV2 the virus and COVID19 the disease affect mom and baby during first and second trimesters|1 Totally agreed|1 Its just the flu Bruh s|0 Laurie Garrett who writes for Foreign Policy has covered several outbreaks and recommends wearing gloves like this taking them off when you come home and washing them She also didnt wear a mask Heres what she doeshttpsforeignpolicycom20200125wuhancoronavirussafetychina|1 We need to pray harder|1 Of course they did They have eaten up so much cold war red scare propaganda that literally anything that fits in the category of the government spends money to benefit its citizens in general is socialism compared to their overlysimplistic and selfish ideology|0 In my country this is already prohibited We are in a complete lockdown until 31 march limited social life not all shops are openNot like it was unknown that the elderly and sick have a life threatening risk with this shit As soon as shit had hit the fan in the US stuff like this should be at least have an advice against It is fucking not rocket science|0 100 rioting would be utterly ridiculousbut if my loved ones were to start dying and the fucking PM had nonchalantly told me about it a week prior from the safety of his bubble i think the ridiculous would seem a lot more appealing dont youstay safe regardless|1 Do we know if it clears their system completely though While this is great news Im concerned about the reports of sterility lung issues etc|1 Dont forget the homeless|1 It amazes me how he manages to stay on the air The Fox narrative is pretty fragile at least it seems that way I may have been conditioned to give it extra scrutiny by the anti Fox sentiment of the Bush Jr era|1 Yeah Im basically in the same boat Plus my company decided now is a good time to schedule mandatory overtime and work Saturdays now as well We usually work 8 hours MF|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Its making me so upset that everyone doesnt care The fact Italy has just quarantined 16 million people and American states declaring emergencies show this isnt just the flu and we need to be ready I wish you well and keep cleaning the checkouts even if they laugh at you We know were ready|1 Japan now believes that the Wakayama patient and the infected surgeon are two unrelated cases The patient started having symptoms on 21fever and vomiting Had a 39C fever on 26 went to the hospital to see a physician and was hospitalized on the same day His condition got worsepneumonia and was transferred to another hospital on 213 He had no known contact with the infected surgeon in the same hospital The surgeon started having fever on 131 a week before the patient visited the hospital The timelines dont match up sourcehttpsheadlinesyahoocojphla2020021400000042maisoci|0 True this shit will be referenced by real life Star Trek captains as part of the troubles on Earth|0 Who knew Microsoft would end up being the good guys|1 Well they only tested the suspect peopleBut in all seriousness Trump doesnt want the numbers to go up from one cruise ship his words This is all being managed with the target of not spooking the stock market China did that and finally had to make a correction If this keeps up well do the same|1 Both then Austalian Center for Infectious Disease and the CDC have both come out today and said they have no evidence that indicated the disease can be spread during incubation That isnt a verifiable fact at this pointbtw Australians already changed their mind about that Australias chief medical officer Professor Brendan Murphy has confirmed health experts believe the new coronavirus is contagious before people show symptomshttpswwwsmhcomaunationalcoronaviruscontagiousbeforesymptomsshowchiefmedicalofficer20200129p53vtihtml|0 My parents are elderly Literally in this diseases wheelhouse They are insisting on going on a European river cruise next month THEY REFUSE TO BE SWAYED Its a once in a lifetime trip Its worth the risk for a 12hour plane ride and a 2 wk boat cruise down the river in the middle of the european hot zoneThey believe it is all fake news They dont believe any of it I told them of it in Mid Jan and was scared for them All they did was buy masksEven the elderly themselves dont care|0 Thank my daddy and mommy I hit jackpot decades ago lol|1 To be clear though the people I know who are brushing this off are liberal conservatives both Seems to not be a partisan belief apparently stupidity isnt relegated to a specific political party |1 Also the fact that a month before the outbreak the Taiwanese presidential elections were held and the antiChina faction won by a landslide due to the Hong Kong Protests In response the Chinese government stopped issuing visas for mainlanders to come to Taiwan in an attempt to punish Taiwan Due to the fact that Chinese mainlanders actually make up a notinsignificant portion of Taiwans tourism revenue Therefore when the outbreak occurred Taiwan most likely had the least amount of Chinese tourists and visitors for any country in Asia I feel like this greatly contributed to the low cases in Taiwan|0 So they knew about it for a whole month before they even informed the publicSeems like shit work to me|0 You know 80 of people who get it have very mild or no symptoms right This virus isnt the end of the world though its going to stress our infrastructure People arent going to be able to not go outside|0 Ironically eating uranium ore would likely not do anything to you due to how low emissions it is|0 And it will desproportionaly affect wealthy Nations Developing Nations have much fewer old people|1 survival of the fittest riches|1 I wouldnt be surprised if people were pretending to buy the just a flu narrative and secretly preparing to avoid such situations Its never good if someone knows you have any supplies|0 When they got patient One they immediatly placed suitable measures but problem was there was no patient zeroThey thought everything would be under control advised people to stay at home People insisted that they want to go out and have coffee from bara here its like that It was on the news on the very First day Two weeks later there was a lock down of that area but people still travelled to other communities and thats how community spread gained its momentum Looks like people are Always against any useful measures|1 Sars had much higher mortality rate and lower transmission rate|0 Gladly would take a mandatory quarantine Although the best time to catch it is right now in the states|1 Same Im playing a nonstop game of is this chest tightness covid19 or an impending panic attack|0 Same One friend asked me to stop talking about it and another wont respond and changes the subject when I bring it up My extended entire family has told me they are ready to go when its their time as if leaving behind all of their children and grandchildren is patriotic or something|1 helpful thank you|1 Despite rising cases the UK are reducing the testing capacityhttpswwwindependentcouknewshealthcoronavirusuktestborisjohnsonpandemicoutbreaknewcasesnhsa9396406htmlI dont know why but this isnt going to end well for the UK|1 If people knew he had Covid19 people would freak out Honestly after all the people he had contact with recently as this was taking off in Italy Ill believe hes fine when I see it|0 The patient was released hours before the test came back positive So its not like she would have had to wait another week|1 We all have to make sacrifices to fight this battle|0 I had to turn it off Fucking idiot|0 The symptoms are indeed like the flu The seriousness of it is another matter entirely and thats where the analogy is a serious problem people saying its like the flu is read as its nothing out of the ordinary|0 Thanks And you dont dilute it with anything else like waterMy problem is that I have no idea where to buy isopropyl alcohol |1 Thank you I am a firm believer in proper supplementation in just normal daily life outside of the scope of illness But when I start to get sick i hit them hard This will be a long list because I use various formulations with a combo of ingredients Side note I have an account to get products with a site that sells to physiciansnaturopathsPAs so some things might not be available but Im pretty sure by ingredient you should be able to find Nacteyl Cysteine NAC is used to treat cystic fibrosis and COPD this had been recommended by my naturopath to me for my severe allergies and tendency towards sinus infections and sometimes secondary like bronchitis Any strong pungent herbal blend one that I have included pomegranate rind amla cinnamon bark rosemary leaf extract green tea leaf extract curcuma longa root clove and oregano essential oil SeleniumSpirulinaRhodiola Forskohlii RLipoic Acid ZincResveratrol Neonatal lung tissue edit this threw off some people its bovine derived You can look up glandular and treating with neonatal tissuesSOD superoxide dismustaseLlysineI like using isoquercetin for my Vitamin C as it is the most bioavailable and strongest form of Vit C I know ofHerbs like hyssop and holy basil and lobeliaI take these drops called Cellular Oxygenator by Professional FormulasBig ones to start with are Vit C quercetin or isoquercetin if possibleNACVit D SeleniumAnd then a pungent herbal productLet me know if you want actual brand names or specific products I use I just didnt want to come off as pushing a particular product|1 Haha What a wait Where are you that has such a shortage|1 A mask and some safety glasses would have sufficed|1 Sure but it does make sense to have intelligent planning and recourse for black swan events like a global pandemic This is why Federal government exists to step in during times of crisis provide solutions and funding then recede back to its normal duties after the pandemic is allayed|1 Exactly thats how it spreads Churches will be superspreading centers unless church authorities finally come to their senses but Im not holding my hopes up|0 If the only means of safeguarding health is a surgical mask then it is a poor but acceptable choice If you examine photos of people on the street in China often they wear more than one mask The two types of mask are designed to be used are completely different environments Surgical masks are designed to be worn in a clinical setting where air is regulated condition and controlled N95 masks are designed to be worn in environments where the breathable air contains contaminants As stated by another here surgical masks are designed to protect others patients from clinicians N95 masks are designed to protect the wearer from the environmentAdditionally the N95 mask you want to wear has a plastic exhaust port The port is a one way valve allowing the moisture laden air being exhaled to exit the mask enclosure Masks without a port become saturated by moisture rich exhaled breathe This results in increasing the effort needed to draw air in through the filtering material of the mask More energy is needed in order to breath This increases fatigue shortens range of travel and increases the length of time spent in hazardous areas As the masks are used they become weighty due to the moisture absorbed The fit over the mouth and nose compromised and the feeling uncomfortable These are only a few of the factors needing to be considered when determining which mask to select and quantity needed|1 Thats great newsAs an educator myself my Spring Break started early when they cancelled classes today They did it as a preventative measure and are hoping that this clears out in the next ten days but they arent very optimistic about that coming to fruition Im a bit nervous about how it plays out but if we end up seeing closures in my state Im certain our salaries will still be honored But you knowit causes lots of stress |1 A late pandemic outbreak is far more damaging that the first option|0 Shit Id sell my 950 pistol for a few boxes of masks|0 Sadly that will most likely get real for him too Insurance wont cover the lost business if they close so if its a small place most likely the owners are in fight or lose everything mode I know a bunch of people in the industry and simply put they dont want to be open either but if with no security whatsoever in the form of insurance or government they simply will keep selling as long as they can|0 You go offline since youre so fucking horny for a doomsday scenario|0 This is not an effective disinfectant of Covid19 Clorox Disinfectant wipes is what you need|0 Sure you can have many ICUs The bigger problem will be medical staff China could throw all their medical man power from a billion people to a single spot nearly Italy and the other EU countries will run out of medical staff sooner than of ICUs Especially with their shortage in protective gear and lack of preparation for this case the medical staff will be infected quickly|0 Why cant we be smart and take notes from other countries and get ahead of the curve Lock it down or at least start the process of locking it down Extend Spring Break for all schools and get students online learning Close the bars and other popular social gathering places This would help so much|1 I agree I commented this above but it bears repeatingWhen something cannot be done for the pubic good by private forprofit enterprise the natural solution is a public nonprofit enterprise which would naturally have to be a government endeavor But if we try to do a public nonprofit half the people cry socialism and nothing ends up getting done Some folks would rather have the government solve a problem than leave it unsolved Others would rather the problem go unsolved than to have the government solve itPublic nonprofits are the appropriate solution when a public good needs to be done but cannot be done at the scale and price it needs to be done while making a profit Investors need to make a return on investment thats what theyre motivated by Government can take huge risks and investments to protect the public with thinks like publicly funded vaccination projects that would never attract private investment Thats why the government is the natural fit for public services which would be intrinsically incompatible with making a profit such as policing and fire fighting and emergency services What were seeing with this pandemic is a slowmotion relatively speaking emergency|1 Lol and you think the US government is telling its citizens everything they know|1 Sick burn|0 source I agree he deserves to have his name known and properly honored I want to confirm if possible|1 genius tier strat is to launch a lawsuit against a foreign political party with more members than your entire nations population|1 The truth is supply lines are importantFuck Jeff Bezos in general though|1 Husband is now believing me He even watched a video on prepping Whats really funny The stuff the guy was saying is handy and good and even extra We already have Were not prepped Were just cautious Im sure we dont have all we could but lots of stuff weve had for years tarps contractorgrade bags tp for 5x as many people etc etc If we have to stay in we might be able to clean our house and organize it all|1 not much A considerable amount was allocated towards stock buybacksnot muchSo youre saying they didnt save much money from tax breaks because they spent the money they saved from the tax breaks inflating their equity You spending the money you saved in a tax break does not mean the tax breaks didnt save you money Or perhaps this is about the choice of the word saved The word saved is deliberately chosen because anti tax people love to say you dont get money from tax breaks Its money you had that you dont have to spend aka money saved That is money saved for how long does not matter in the slightest Me saying they saved money on their taxes is not me saying they started a long term savings plan why would i even suggest thatIn short they saved money by not having to pay taxes Them subsequentially spending that money doesnt mean you can say that they didnt save much as a result of the tax breaks Money saved can in turn be spent it does not mean it wasnt saved to begin with|1 My understanding based on SARS literature I consulted in mid January is that the protease inhibitors typically utilized for treatment of Hepatitis C and in some cases of HIV are demonstrably effective against both ncov2019 as it was then called and the SARS and indeed the MERS COVsIn particular the following were understood to be efficaciousProtease Inhibitors Greatest efficacy so far against 2019NCOV Sofosbuvirvelpatasvir Ribavirin with PEGA interferon Simeprevir Gileads newer hepatitis C protease inhibitor combination drug the name escapes me added sofosbuvirvelpatasvir supra for the time being but I recall that a course of treatment was around one hundred and sixty thousand USD in the USA Other antivirals with suspected efficacy a fairly inexpensive antimalarial quinolone was effective in vitro a Thai doctor has claimed that coadministration of Tamiflu enhanced the efficacy of two protease inhibitors ribivirin among them in the context of NCOV2019 ARDS female patient over 85 with critical disease and apparent recoveryAlternative Therapies Blood plasma transfusions from recently infected persons were said to have ameliorated the symptoms of 10 critical patients in the endstage of COVID19 ARDS many showing substantial clinical improvement within 24 hours of administration in China ZMAP an RNA antiviral deployed against Ebola showed promise in vitro against 2019NCOV|1 I dont believe that figure for a minute there is way too much shadowing going in for this to be really effective|1 Its just a little frustrating I refuse to panic buy as all that does is deprive others of items they need while those that panic buy hoard items they do not However the only losers are those that dont panic buy I have a quarter of a container of hand soap left and will end up having to resort to cleaning my hands with flash spray shortly as I cannot get soap anywhere I wonder how many households have 10 bottles sitting in a cupboard right now|0 I listened to one dipshit on a podcast say that only Chinese people can die from this strain because their lungs are different and the virus only causes pneumonia with that specific type of lung What in the fuck|0 Reminds me of my company Everybody can get about a week of vacation but its a first come first serve to put your name on that calendar No two people can take the same vacation time off because somebody has to fill in for that person gone So yes you can get a vacation but it very likely wont be when you want it or need it Im set for the second week of April but Ill basically be doing nothing all that week just not working|0 Wtf hahah There is no such a thing for illegal dna ancestry test How naive you are Its not illegal to have a dna test in Turkey |0 Listened to the whole thing Its doesnt promote confidence that theres any handle on this The comments on Iran being a potential mutated strain I wasnt excited to hear Completely informative but lots of bummer news|0 You are so wrong you even got confused as to who is moderating here|0 Stay safe Keep us posted|1 American who strongly dislikes Trump I have mixed feelings about this but I dont want to think of myself as wishing death on anybody who isnt a proven serial killer Hes not in good health and doesnt know how to quarantine himself well see what COVID19 decides to do|0 Its my understanding that this is false The virus has different shed rates so in the early days they were doing oral swabs which came back negative but different tests were still positive To this point I dont think theres been any evidence of reinfection|1 Ah the great American Dream Water to wash the plague off your hands|1 This is what every country with an outbreak is doing minus SK and is so dumb they are giving up and fucked it up badly|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Based on reports Ive read 5 million wuhan people left before the lockdown with 10000 flying to my country I think most of them are likely the rich and connected who have received news and left before the lock downThe virus was reported to the WHO on December 31st so there was early indiciation something was wrong almost a month ago They didnt know the seriousness of the virus and not all health workers were coordinated some doctors sent people home saying not to worry but information about the coronavirus was circulating for nearly a month now httpswwwtheguardiancomscience2020jan26coronavirusfromfoodmarkettoglobalpanicresponsemistakeshttpswwwtheguardiancomscience2020jan26coronavirusfromfoodmarkettoglobalpanicresponsemistakes|1 Times have changed because of the hyperconnected informational space created by the internet Only transparency and consistency with the public can prevent panic in this situation paternalism and minimization will not work This epidemic is definitely worse than SARS MERS or swine flu in terms of its potential final impact|0 Welp were screwed|0 I work in healthcare and everyone here says Im over reacting people are clueless and no one uses common medical knowledgeEdit everything to everyone add here|0 Yah dont worry|1 Hi Ive been looking on the CDC site but couldnt find the copy Do you mind sharing the link Thank you|1 Japan has many small islands and probably some military camps on them But I guess it is not my job attitude is quite prevalent here It is also close to the end of the fiscal year and Japanese organizations are very reluctant to spend any unplanned money during FebruaryMarch|0 Nah the rubberfaced centerright alien billionaire media tycoon probably cares more about the common folk|1 Yeah Like if the broader community is so bad we should avoid bringing that broader community together and thus prevent faster cross contamination like I dunno schools Jees Im blown away by this guy|0 If your city is forced into lockdown you will not be allowed to travel to work and all shops and restaurants will close It just happened in Italy The authorities are nice enough to cover peoples utility bills and there will be tax reliefs The situation just made me realize that unconditional basic income may not be such a bad idea after all |1 Damn This whole thing is an eye opener to those countries with social policies and health care systems Ive always admired Guess the grass is always greener Hope you guys get your act together fast|1 Hmm this is true|1 But muh GDP the neoliberal wonk cried as his lungs filled with fluid|0 I am sorry but this sounds incredibly irresponsibleWhile I dont advocate testing for every case of sore throat not knowing wether you are positive to COVID19 will have a knock on effect unless you live as a hermitProbably you went to work before you felt so unwell met with family or friends visited a cafe Taking a test will prevent the virus to spread further because you will be able to alert people you were in contact with so they can take precautions and selfisolate|1 I had a feeling you wouldnt be getting on that flight lol Stay safe and good luck buddy|1 You dont undertstand BASIC biology if you think fungi dont produce antibodies to the same pathogens we do The only one creating cringe here and exposing themselves is you All i am doing is repeating basic fundamenal knowledge that can be found in any encyclopediaA simple google search for antiviral fungi should yield you enough reading to keep ypu occupied for a few centuries Have fun|1 Can u forward them this link If its just the flu then why did one Italian hospital close entirely when a man contaminated it If its JF why did x countries close their borders not sure of numberturkey and Pakistan with Iran multiple w China If its JF why are 760 M ppl locked down 98 of the global population Would these stats help them understand|0 Perfect name for the virus lol Winnie the Flu|1 Think it would be quite the shocker to know how many actually died and their age in a video of a local hospital they had dead people all over the place looked straight out of outbreak|0 Community spread is happening so you dont need to be tested If you get sick you know what it is You stay home like a responsible citizenIf you are severely sick you call health authorities If treatments specific to Covid19 seem warranted your infection should be confirmedWe are not at the stage of containment coordinated by officials anymore Get used to it and stop the useless complaining|0 To be fair this is pretty standard for pandemics Plenty of other countries are acting the same way and the Spanish flu was called the Spanish flu because Spain was the only country admitting to the outbreak while all other countries tried to act like they didnt have it Doesnt justify it and Im mad as hell but Im just pointing out this seems to be pretty standard for govt action during pandemics|1 Is it fair to ask medical staff to test for this when they are already overwhelmedYes its critical for planning and monitoring the virulence of the pathogen I would guess that that the numbers epidemiologists are working off of right now are probably severely skewed by the less than factual information about the spread rate of the diseaseSo I dont think there is a concrete plan from the government to intentionally obscure these numbersCould be Theres a first time for everythingIf anything various levels of government are FAR more likely to try to hide the facts from their superior than they are to deceive the worldVery possible It looks like the local government was very slow to sound the alarmLike I said Ive read a couple of reports claiming that they have run out of the test kits to confirm the disease So it may just be that they are incapable right now of confirming the virus in the sick and guessing would skew the statistics just like intentionally under reporting So they may not be intentionally hiding the extent of the infections but also not providing the world with actual infection rates either|0 You are only as strong as your weakest link If you as a country have areas doing nothing then all these containment efforts will fail There needs to be federal actions nation wide And closed borders Only the can you contain this and then begin to think about next steps|0 Holy Crapoly I hope the strategy works to slow the viruses spread in Italy Europe In retrospect does Italy wish that theyd lockdown sooner Should other countries still early days consider such measures or at least mandate social distance and ban large events|1 Unless every epidemiologist and physician was fired from the agency funding cuts do not justify the CDCs silence We are past the point of bungling past recklessness and well into intentional malfeasance and breach of duty to the public if not treason and crime against humanity|1 Yes We have a chain of stores here called Grocery Outlet it is a great place to get canned goods Organic beans for like 79 cents a can and the expiration is fine|1 I do not like nor trust the Tories but I think the government are taking their advice from the right people and their advice will be data based and intended to save the most number of lives including the oldMy concern is the difficulty in accurate messaging to the different groups that the keep calm carry on message being given to the majority of the population is being actioned by the vulnerable and the stay safe message is not being sufficiently heardIf we can do anything as a group we should get these differences across|1 Rule 1 Be respectful Racism sexism and other bigoted behavior is not allowed No inflammatory remarks personal attacks or insults Respect for other redditors is essential to promote ongoing dialog If you believe we made a mistake please let us know Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 a forum for impartial discussion|1 I work as a 911 dispatcher I saw an uptick in transports of pneumonia patients Our medics dont wear their ppe when dealing with potential biohazards sometimes first hand witness to it I brought it up to my supervisors on the shift I was working Well if we forced them to wear ppe in a mandate it would initiate a possible panic I get told not to read too deeply into calls Funny I guess they just wanted the actual panic We are getting what we deserve no matter how many scream into the void of chain of command|0 You can literally listen to him talk on videos and say totally inaccurate shit How stupid are you Just read the news Its all over The numbers are climbing Fast And yet the white house says kellyan conway either yesterday ir today its contained The CDC proclained its endemicin washington state Dozens are infected and dying wt one nursing home alone 22 in one week 70 of the staff infected How is any of this just not bat shit crazy to you If you believe a word ofwhat he says youre just an idiot too Truly|0 Its amazing how this virus has reminded us so quickly that we are all humans Other days there were pictures in Italy of top footballers queuing with everyone for hours out of a supermarket|1 Italy has been in quarantine long enough to get better numbers soon One thing that kept numbers high some time was fact that 5ppl household went lockdown for example mother has it rest of family gets it inside 4 walls and goes later in hospital when condition got bad and tested positive added to daily infection There should not be other way to get it anymore cos everyone in quarantine right|1 Im not hopeful but maybe it will ensure that contingency planning and funding will be pushed up the agenda again Running systems at near 100 capacity may be efficient but its useless when unexpected things happen|1 What about what Ive written strikes you as inciting panic Advocating for more action with an eye to best practices seems very far removed from screaming that the sky is falling|0 He stays in the same hospital he works when he got sick The doctors and nurses helping him are his colleagues who work together And the government want him to be alive more than anyone else so that that news wont go bigger |1 China has been awful with their disregard for IP laws You cant even sell used cds or dvds on amazon anymore because the site was just flooded with so many counterfeits|0 Thanks man theyre in the UK and its disheartening hearing how its getting so bad for my elderly aunt and father yet my sister and nieces have been told theres no risk from going to school and daycare Like what|0 You could have gotten it 7 days ago and still test negative|0 Not expecting trying Sorry for the confusion|0 Its already time They already kill 68000 per year for profit|0 Yes of course I meant to highlight two uncertainties 1 Do we develop meaningful immunity 2 What are the long term health effects At this time we simply do not know the answer to either question So saying that people have recovered is misleading People should have greater concern|1 All of this is from my understanding as a non professional Will provided sources if I come across them againFair enough I dont have any citiations as to what the primary method of spread is on hand either but I will say Ive heard various experts say it has such a high r0 due to being dropletborne and possible also airborne I reiterate that no one has said its proven to be airborne just suspected I did not say say it can only happen to HCW just that it is almost entirely HCW Again from my understandingOk my understanding is that the reason for the high R0 is because its spread by droplets and this can affect anyone Ofc HCWs are at higher risk but they are generally The public is certainly at risk of infection via droplet You have a rather high expectation of our society which is good but optimistic A HCW who was told by the state to selfisolate went to a partyTBH I swing wildly back and forth on this You know having thought about it I do grant you that many people could not be taught to use them properly sadly What percentage I dont know The Aussie study did show a low compliance rate among the public IIRC but theorize that compliance would increase during an actual pandemic|1 Half true If we find evidence on the books we separate out any that have been contaminated and put them in a little tent with a small heater for a few hours The tent gets to be about 170F But its not for lice its bed bugs|1 Im from the South and even though that answer seems obvious No one here even seems to think its something to fear Its just the flu to these people Just jokes and misinformation|0 Note The study at the centre of this article on the transmission of the coronavirus was retracted on Tuesday by the journal Practical Preventive Medicine without giving a reason The South China Morning Post has reached out to the papers authors and will update the articleRedacted before it was even posted here shows how many of the Muppets here actually read the first paragraph|0 Ive been Worried about my grandpa making it through this He is 102|0 This is the truth and should be upvoted and seen|1 No they are just not accepting shipments of anything not in those categories If they are already in stock then you are fine|0 Its the scientists who fucked upbeaurocrat scientists who made a bizarre choice to develop own tests refusing WHO testsand then ran such sloppy labs the tests were contaminated and non functioning There arent enough tests and thats on the CDC|0 And so people can stay home from work and not lose their homes|1 Ah thanks for the info tbh as someone mad depressed I could probably do alright just chilling for a couple of weeks Hopefully the food theyre getting served is at least nice Also I feel like youd have a case for suing afterwards too So even something like 10k payout would be worth it|1 Ive found it now in a few media now FRhttpswwwfrdewissencoronavirussarscov2testschnelltestdeutschlandgetestetcovid1913582178html Tagesschauhttpswwwtagesschaudeinlandcoronadeutschlandhausaerzte101html It raises however the question why as in this article described some people have such a struggle to get tested I hope its not like with some hospitals that have the equipment and beds available but no personnel so that they have to close stations Maybe they are exaggerating the capacities to keep the public calm Who knows|0 Man what a great idea Portland is pretty awesome visit if you get a chance|1 If that happened today they would have denied you your colonoscopy anyway Its considered an elective procedure and those are being shelved to make room for COVID patients|0 My employer sent out the company memo which was chalked up to just wash your hands Great prevention|1 I never said you wouldnt have a sell off But had there been a coherent strategy from the beginning this could have mitigated the damage|0 Seeing as the number of cases is quickly growing I hope Indiana follows suit|1 No idea why you were downvoted They had a hospital built within less than two weeks to deal with the overcrowding Does anyone here think that is possible without rounds of parliamentary debate in most other countries|0 Micronesia took actions back in January and nations were complaining about it Even s Korea complained and retaliated when Japan did it to them to avoid further cases being brought in|0 This would be 1 million on top of the normal average rate people are still dying for other reasons Its still a lot of people even if its a small |1 I seriously dont get it Worst case scenario a person would have nonperishable food and supplies in advance At one work place as well we did mention that we should stock up on few things in advance everyone just laughed it off It is medical supplies we need anyways masks and disinfectant stuff Curious how it pans out once they warehouses are low on these Which already started btw but people just brushing it off as inconvenience|1 Why are serious quarantine efforts not being made in Washington state to stop the spread of the virus I find the serious tone of the discussion about this virus directly contradicts the actions of our officials I live in Seattle and I demand answers I also find the wishy washy actions of our officials extremely confusing and upsetting Is this an emergency or not Are we the US going to take this seriously or not|0 You act like the human race hasnt survived a long time without all the made in China stuff Dont you have any idea about how people have lived historically before technology Its pure nonsense to compare JapanskoreaChinaIsraelusaIranItaly BUT its being done Micronesia has a better government The infected nations failed to stop or contain the pandemic Micronesia has been smarter than everyone else You can not visit Micronesia if your nation is infected You can maybe visit if you have been quarantined in a non infected nation and have passed a health screening|0 I agree It wont be long until were on lockdown and police are roaming the streets Damn Wish I wouldve been nicer to them|1 If that was true why have they already reported 19 caseshttpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscaseshttpsbnonewscomindexphp202001thelatestcoronaviruscases|1 Really wish you guys had an analytical president This guy is not who I would want at the helm for anything remotely impactful to society|1 Lmao|1 Do they not think there is more upheaval in everyone in the country becoming sick at once fighting for spaces in hospitals government all becoming sick|0 Oh so were all fucked thats comforting|0 Excellent I wish all newspapers would follow suite and do this|1 Critical cases increased more than serious dropped Also 81 deaths|0 forced you say could i use this same force to tell my mortgage company that i cant pay cause c0RoNa v1RuS some folks rent out because they need the extra income they cant absorb the financial hit either So its either the nonpaying tenant goes or we all go not a hard decision|0 yeah this is bad|0 I am a firm believer in CoronaKarma And it is only a matter of time before your pro Trump nurse register friends get it they are in the healthcare sector Without 10 hours of training in hazmat suit and PPE Personal Protective Equipment wearing and availability of the abovementioned items in their hospital its almost INEVITABLE they will contract it Thats what happened in China and Italy CoronaKarma is a thing Just ask that NBA Super Spreader Rudy Gobert who had to publicly apologize Please dont rub it in too hard when they contract it but do it over the phone because you dont want to be anywhere within 30 feet of them IRL|1 We are waiting until its too late you fucking IDIOT|0 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 You really dont have to take it so personally my friend you are not the only one that knows french next time just post one source at least so other people can confirm the statement Misinformation is not something you should side with imagine if asking for sources was frowned upon|1 This was me in Costco around the same time Passed a guy with one of the big flat carts with a chest freezer half a dozen cases of water a bunch of frozen foods pasta canned goods beans ricePretty much me as well but I did it gradually I skipped getting water though I figured as long as China could keep water and electricity flowing in Wuhan I was probably pretty safe By the way the Costco deep freezes 250 pound capacity is a flat lie Ive got at least 325 in it |1 This is an astoundingly wrong legal take|1 The question is how many people will stay at home just closing restaurants and schools If you dont go to school or to the college you have more time for fun and if you spend this time to hang out with your friends you are helping the spread of the virusWe need to stay at home but I think its difficult to do it alone we need a generally lockdown at least for three or more weeks but this is just my opinion|0 Thats not necessarily true Just look at how many massive large and small businesses are moving at a snails pace Public sector speed is limited by politics but can act quickly when a politician has a mandate to act and the private sector is limited by greed just as much as greed can spur movement for the private companies|0 I talked two hours ago with my friends girlfriend who works here in Bergamo as nurse situation in absolutely not good this kind of law right now could save many lives if people want to respect It|1 Ilsole24ore is the main economic newspaper in ItalyIm translating the first paragraph with the extended titleCoronavirus the govt estimates 92000 infections peaking on the 18th of MarchMore than 360000 will be quarantined These are the official forecasts from the GovtDated 13th of MarchWhat they mean by 360000 quarantined is people that are known to have been in contact with people who tested positive and are doing strict mandated quarantine at home|1 This matters zero FYI|1 Not really but its their choice to mingle if they want to|1 Yup you laid it out much better than I could Theres a lot going on especially in USA Right to Work re nightmare states and I totally get that wildcat strikes as they almost always result in mass firings or some kind of legal action arent really doable or practical for the workers to attempt A union member can always dream But ultimately the goal is to keep pilots crew other crew like maintenancecleaningbaggage handling etc and their passengers safe without costing anyone their careers It shouldnt be as tricky as it is but here we are I hope the pilots are successful and their union can make some headway on this I think most people would agree that its a health risk for those involved in international travel to high risk areas at the moment|1 I read and draw it keeps my mind occupied and allows me to claim down and forget about the problem|0 So its not a democratic hoax|1 China is dumping billions into propping things up The markets are being convinced this will stay in China but that seems unlikely to me weve seen enough cases that its probably on the loose already Mostly its folks sticking their head in the sand The r0 value on this is nuts we should start either seeing a decline if we get this under control doubtful or simply numbers too massive to test The small guys will feel it first and many will go under Larger corporations have a massive stockpile of cash to weather this But we will see investment brokers and banks that are over leveraged will have a pretty impactful experienceNot doomsday but this is gonna hurt a lot of businesses and those without reserves will go under|0 Unfortunately not|0 Most likely People in this country only really think of themselves its our culture to bring other people down I guess theres nothing we can do other than isolate our elderly population|0 Every time I think Im being paranoid and stupidly going into credit card debt to stockpile stuff I see something like this and it decreases my am I having a mental breakdown anxiety and replaces it with is the world as we know it coming to an end anxiety|0 Ive tried it a few times because I want to be able to trust they wont lieThey always fucking lie Part of the thrill is the deception|1 Anyone who thinks the USA or any other country is going to fare any better with the same amount of patients is living in a delusion|1 Finally That seems like an appropriate measure I must say|1 South Carolina here Grocery store is out of wipes hand sanitizer and intermittently out of paper towels eggs pedialyte and low on many staple goods Pick up time slots are not currently available due to demand Schools are released and my company is WFH for minimum 46 weeks 20something coworkers still managed to go bar hopping this weekend Despite having fever dry cough runny nose and tight chest and taking a virtual screening I have been unable to take a test|1 Nice to see the famous are able to get tests relatively quickly I hope he recovers soon but the inequities in the system dont serve any of us If one of us is sick we can all be sick because this is contagious Testing needs to go up now|0 Wow people were panicking when the virus was only in China Crazy Say any news from Italy where the entire country has been placed on lockdown|0 The lime goes on the top|1 My point is more the reaction of many of the public to hoard supplies such as antibacterial handwash toilet roll and surgical masks and criminals profiting from it Obviously the apocalyptic scenarios have been done to death but reality always finds a way to be both more banal and more scary|0 I was thinking maybe its best to not release this kind of data That way everyone has to take things seriously|1 Because its NYC Fed pumped 100 billion into the market this morning and cut interest rates to improve the market If they did testing and found out a shit ton of people are infected and publicized their findings everything is going to take a massive hit|0 I get it but its giving people wrong information and its also not protecting are nurses who are coming into close contact Can the government send a secret email to all medical staff telling them that they are bullshitting the country then because even the medical staff believe them that masks dont work which is rediculous|0 Scared people buy toilet paper smart people collect bottle caps|0 Good for you but if they were posting hwvon the weekend wouldnt you want school management and parents to knowAs I said most teachers are good|1 Oh its difficult to answer your questions without insulting some national pride We were famous for wine 3000 years ago Some traditions some secrets some wonderful elixirs are refined almost to mystical levels with time and love Lots of time and lots of love for wine obviously|1 Especially certain New York lawyers|1 I agree about needing a licensetraining it does invalidate that comparison However these people can not possibly claim they are unaware of the seriousness They lied about their test results specifically to avoid being quarantined which even if they havent been following the news and are completely clueless would clue them in to the severity of the situation They were at the bare minimum told that they possibly have an infectious virus hence the testing I was suggesting manslaughter charges only if there were deaths as a direct result of their actions And I stand by that It is entirely possible someone will die because they wanted to be comfortable and it disgusts me that there are apologists for this kind of behavior|0 Lol wait till Biden does some more mental somersaults during the debate|1 this is every mmo now mmo devs are the most out of touch and stubborn developers ive ever interacted with for some reason they have a very hard time viewing things objectively and instead view their games or specific classes whatever as passion projects and their decisions are ideologically driven rather than objectively driven from a balance perspective its very very weird|0 Ty Ill check it out|0 Only 200 you know how amazing that issad but true|1 Panicking and or promoting panicking doesnt help anyone|0 Would this possibly explain why the cases outside of Wuhan have seemed relatively milder I think of the Bavarians for example and even some of the cases in Canada and the United States|1 I dont think so A lot of people were locked into their apartments Including elderly people who died those that could have used ICU There are videos of packed hospitals bars being welded across doors communities beings shut people lying all through corridors|0 Yeah but its very ironic to say this in a thread about US Their underreporting and inaction is much more severe|0 Yep Why did you send this to me though|1 In happened a few times at my campus in Qubec as well I remember loving to scream along with the others for that same exact reason|1 Risk is low baby risk is low|0 Yes every morning|1 No no no Dont do this Keeping the economy up in running is most important I mean coffee shops arent really a necessity but if service workers start to adopt this mentality were all fucked|0 But for some reason they like to keep the US from performing similar measures because muh racism by they I mean the Israelis in the US government|0 CDC needs to be investigatedThey refused working tests that WHO offeredSent out faulty testsHad a strict criteria for testing that the patient had to have been to China for weeks after the virus had spread outside China There were ppl with symptoms coming home from infected countries such as Vietnam Italy that were refused testing bc they werent in China CDC essentially delayed testing in the United States by 6 WEEKS Which was a crucial period to try to contain the virus CDC also mistakenly released infected ppl a cpl of times CDC knew since January that the incubation period was longer than 14 days They knew its was closer to 24 days but yet they STILL continue to do 14 day quarantines Some of those released ppl have since tested positive CDC knew screenings wereare worthless due to asymptomatic transmission Yet continues to let ppl off planes cruise ships via screening CDC has continually refused Drs requests for testingThey refused to tell the public the truth about the virus in a timely manner so that Americas elderly most those w medical conditions would know to take extra precautions I know bc I was 1 of the ppl begging them since JanFeb to pls tell ppl the truth just guide them through the precautions they should take to make sure health care providers were protectedIve followed this virus closely since January The more CDC botched everything the harder it got to believe that it was just sheer incompetence|0 Its like the apprentice and Trump made Pence project manager We know how this ends for Pence|1 Vs only 3 of women Id be shocked if this wasnt the reason for reports that COVID19 hits men worse|0 OP is just warming up hisher talents for when were in lockdown Cant wait to see the next piece |1 Im sorry That is hard in circumstances where you are comfortable in your own home I cant imagine what that is like when you are being yelled at and forced to stay in work Im sorry Youre brave|1 That was me on Wednesday except it was sushi I regret nothing|0 10 million people getting infected over the course of a year is much more manageable than 10 million people getting infected over the course of a monthThis is a very salient point Thanks|0 Smoking is extremely addictive and most smokers are unable to quit Even once diagnosed with a potentially deadly smoking related illness many fail to quit Ive struggled with it my entire life If youve never smoked good for you you dodged a bullet Makes sense that it must baffle your mind But the power of nicotine addiction is incredible and even with months of nonsmoking it has always gotten me in the end I no longer smoke or use tobacco products ive been on NRT for over a year patches gum and occasional vape and am hoping to taper off to 100 nicotine free this year|0 Australias government should not be used as an example of the will of the people after that appalling handling of the bush fires and the plight of the firefighters But otherwise your plan is golden Ever thought they might be taking this golden opportunity to thin out the pensionable folks And the folks who depend on extensive NHS support Else why are they botching this up so badly|0 The old and the chronically sick are the canary in the coal mine Because borders were not closed and broad testing didnt begin six weeks ago|0 Dont throw the bridal showerthats crazy Stay home for the next 14 days if possible This thing is no jokesome people who recover from it have permanent lung damage afterwards Please take this very seriously and do not expose others|0 imkindastrange your reminder arrives in 2 weeks on 20200311 050122Zhttpswwwremindditcomtimedt20200311 050122Zreminderida0b387d1b2eb4f46914516981fae1c87subredditCoronaVirus2019nCoV Next time remember to use my default callsign kminder rCoronaVirus2019nCoV Coronaviruspredictionsfor20202rCoronaVirus2019nCoVcommentsf96ndzcoronaviruspredictionsfor2020fistyqlcontext3 kminder in 14 daysThis thread is popping Here is reminderception 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ReminderhttpsredditcommessagecomposetokzreminderbotsubjectRemindermessageyourmessage0A0Akminder20timeortimefromnow Your RemindershttpsredditcommessagecomposetokzreminderbotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessagelistReminders21 QuestionshttpsredditcommessagecomposetokzreminderbotsubjectFeedback2120KZReminderBot20from20imkindastrange|1 CCP with yet another high score sad sarcasm|0 As this are basically less than double what we in Italy have funded and considered the US have 10 times the population that money are not going to cut it|1 Remember when people were saying WHO pushed China to reveal more accurate data so the number of confirmed cases went up last weekSure was nice to dream that WHO has any sort of push or power over China at all|1 Very cool Thanks for taking care of bees They are so important|1 SARSCoV2 seems to have an RBD that binds with high affinity to ACE2 from humans ferrets cats and other species with high receptor homology7 So does that mean loose house cats might become infected transmitters as well|0 Its an odd question to ask speculation can absolutely harm In the case of a virus outbreak why dont you exercise your freedom of speech responsibly Not only will it show your respect for the importance of evidence but it will also help to not inflame current situations|1 Yup Just the flu|0 Well then Id only be able to wear the mask once every 9 days|1 Wow thats really nice of you to say I do my best to be as accurate as possible and I dont ever want to be accused of fake news or misinfomation I just wanted to make sure it was more clear but YES you are so right about the fact that people will have WAY less choices how to move around the country I think that is partially the point Along with Via has been in trouble for a while|1 Indonesias health minister literally said their prayers were heard by God and thats the reason why they have zero infections I think your country is still better than that|1 In January my boss was like youre an idiot this is nothing Today he was flipping out that some girl he was talking to wasnt taking this seriously|0 1824 months until we have a vaccineAlternatively processing a billion tests a week would enable everyone in the US to test 23 times a week and we could quickly identify and shut down outbreaks before they expand|1 Im in NYC Been wearing mine for the last two months I know I look like a lunatic I also dont care Good for your girlfriend Tell her shes doing the right thing And be sure to disinfect that bad boy after every use|0 I posted the NEJM article earlier today and yes I do think people absolutely need to read it as this CNN article just glosses over a lot of it or doesnt mention it at all|1 I work in public events planning We just laid off 12 our staff because of this shit causing south by Southwest to tank|0 But prices are lower than ever|0 Are you richNoPlease die US policy|0 I see so then its possible this was an actual mistake Not trying to defend the CCP here just wondering|0 The worldwide death toll 2771 doesnt match the breakout list 2811|0 Good|1 Flu tends to have a wet cough Had lots of lung crap from it this year Wouldnt say toght just congested Lots of Mucinex|0 This is the problem I have been telling this to people for days but doomers and CCP haters are turning everything into stupid speculations This is not about science virus and lives of people anymore All they want to prove that how the CCP is the devil and they are hiding something and they engineered this virus This level of dumbness made me tired really|0 Well we are most likely going to have quite a bit fewer old clueless politicians running things soon|0 I wish that there was a translation by a domain expert available Its hard to determine from this if the consensus is based on a study or not|1 Is there a good way to translate these I live in Gumi and get like 12 a day|1 No details about employee travel I wonder if its Ontarios first community spread|0 Lets be real do you think people going to the Queen City Lounge give a fuck Not surprising|0 Singapore had no new cases yesterday and today|0 Hes a serial killer whos never had the guts to kill|0 Thats fair and my intention isnt to spread misinformation This whole thread isnt verified I would imagine most people who are sharing stuff on here know that and can interpret everything with a grain of saltAt the end of the day everyone is impacted and wants to see government action that help stem the spread|1 Some but not all You have fair point|1 This just happened in Spain as well|1 Its the only thing I wont fault the administration on Theyre over a month late on serious measures but theres no way to just jump into a 10week shutdown You do have to ease into it to mitigate panic and mayhem|0 Now my personal comment The situation in Italy has escalated extremely quickly This virus is a timebomb Please reduce social contact as much as you can and stay home I do not want any other country with this same situation Dont make the mistake of thinking Oh its just in Italy now here we only have few cases Everyone thinks that until the situation literally explodes in absolute no time This might become a catastrophe but with changes in our daily behavior we can avoid thisI agree and it would save us a tremendous amount of trouble later if we did this now in the States but we wont So like everyone else we will need to be reactionary I wish we all could stay home Chances are that 1 month of doing that might just nip this in the bud Were on a path to be dealing with death and loss for years to come|0 It will be like the LA riots in 92 except worldwide What happens when the underprivileged or even dregs of society dont have jobs are infected or have friendsfamily infected dont have money are angry are desperate have nothing left to lose and everyones efforts are focused on healthcare and economics and not stopping rampant and possibly neverbeforeseen riotinglootingviolent crimeDo you really think that in America in particular millions of unimportantyetdesperateandangry people wont be looting and breaking into stores Do you not think they wont be violating quarantines and curfews Do you not think that they will be destroying healthcare systems and workers by not listening to doctors or providers and violently attacking them or each other as or while they are dying There are millions of people in the world who will totally freak the fuk out because they are not going to make it and are not seen as important or wellsocialized The economics in all this will likely guarantee this hellscape to come Where were the cops during the LA riots They basically fell back into wealthy enclaves and protected the wealthy That will happen again and whoever is living in communities with little money will go crazy on each other there and then will spill over into middle America at the least and into the neighborhoods In places like cities where business is conducted like downtown areas in some major cities those from lesser neighborhoods will spill into financial and business districts when they lose their jobs or get infected and they will destroy whatever or whoever is in their path People will be killed robbed beaten and it will look like Gotham City when The Joker leads his revolution in the latest Joker movieThere is going to be massive civil disturbance and unrest and its only a matter of time before there is martial law and military on the streets to quell the violenceEdit Forgot to mention that gun sales are surging right now|0 Yeah Id rather have been able to offer individual wrapped sheets or something but didnt have any on hand The container is clear at least and you can visually see the stuff looks right and its attached to my residence so not anonymous but Im not offended if anyone doesnt trust it|1 These are great stories Does anyone else chuckle when the last line of the article is something like The bill was 9016 As if we might otherwise think the bill was 47000|1 At the end of the podcast it states that state officials closed the project Either today or yesterdayDoes anybody want to bet that didnt come with a big stick from the fedsDisgusting|1 No kissing though you know the virus|1 The HR number is provided because this is a internal document for employees I dont see how that is suspicious|0 Has anyone checked to find out if declaring this an emergency gives them the right to quarenteen I know when the CDC declared an emergency it gave them the right but I dont know about local laws Can city officials quarenteen when a disaster is declared|0 Curious Why not use log vertical scale That would show the line bending when countermeasures begin to take effect The linear plots all look the same because they all curve upwards|1 I live in Indiana The only things at the store that were dwindlingout of stock were TP and vitamin C There was plenty of food left on the shelves though they were out of halfgallons of milk|1 Thanks for explaining|1 A lot of deniers feel like that until it hits close to home then they are running out getting supplies and saying they knew this would happen all along|1 httpsyoutubenx7lhj25cShould I watch this or will it make my head explode in rage and frustrationEDIT Nevermind Rage and frustration He truly is an imbecile|0 My laughter stems from a grim realization of the absurdity of this moment in history You arent wrong|1 this is one is hilarious|1 I hope Boris gets it|1 Youre not looking at it from a nonhealthy persons viewTake that smoker with a 30 reduction in capacity Theyre getting along fine And now lets add another 30 reduction after they battle a bad case of Covid19 Now theyre at 60 reduction from a healthy person Fine now NopeAnd there are a lot of people that already have damaged lungs from things other than smoking|0 Am I the only one amazed that there are over 32000 articles less than 10 weeks into the outbreak|1 South Carolina you need proof of insurance or paySo they wont be testing any people who has no insurance and cant afford to pay I guess if this thing takes off lets hope not they will also start testing people who cant afford to pay|1 Thats just due to the shortage of test kits Id love to know if what I got is a cold or covid but no dice|0 I have insurance If I dont feel like I am going to be helped much I will choose to avoid paying the 100 copay plus whatever random stuff I am billed for afterward|0 Dont forget money is free speech|1 Thatll never work unless Dr John Campbell turns into a corrupt immoral person|0 Expect wholesale epidemiczombieapocalypse films coming in 2022 All those props gotta be used somewhere right But I agree their content is shockingly dire and I for one hope this shakes them up|1 httponlinesfsueduasweiTeachingfilesLloydSmith200520nature20superspreaderspdfThis is the initial work he did after SARS I believe you can find further work building from this as well|1 Not sure if|0 Correct me if Im wrong but it looks like its two pictures because theyre in different locations|1 Did you see my stickied post The one with all my coronavirus findingsI work for my states DOT I tried emailing Governor Inslee with that as well as Secretary Wiesman over at the Washington State Department of Health I received pointless form letters about washing my hands in responseChrist This really is going to progress to the point where theyre going to drag out the National Guard|1 Trump admin already told us not to listen to you all This is fake news The virus isnt even here have you seen anyone with it The President is right Just live your normal lives|0 Stocked up on nonperishable foods and household items for my family and my parents Ordered everything through Amazon to minimize the risk and a lot easier to coordinate|1 That would be great Hope we see more studies on this soonUnder the circumstance of lower temperature every 1 increase in average minimum and maximum temperatures led to an increase of the cumulative number of cases by 083 082 and 083 respectively In the singlefactor model of the highertemperature group every 1 increase in the minimum temperature led to a decrease of the cumulative number of cases by 086 Conclusion The study found that to certain extent temperature could significant change COVID19 transmission and there might be a best temperature for the viral transmission which may partly explain why it first broke out in Wuhan It is suggested that countries and regions with a lower temperature in the world adopt the strictest control measures to prevent future reversal|1 Its not excactly the same here we dont need any documents to go outside Everybody goes as they please Were not yet nearly as strict as Italy|1 Being a gamer is the safest thing right now lol|1 Free marketeers really believe its the best way to function its similar to religious thought When your god fails you all thats left is despair|1 how dumb are you1 For your enlightenment California and Washington state are not socialist entities Washington state doesnt even have an income tax you idiot2 These states are international destinations so of course people carrying the virus are going to make their way through there first3 These states do have a hospital and healthcare system that can respond to a crisis4 They have actually been testing and diagnosing people with the virus taking an proactive approach to trying to get ahead of itAs is commonly know testing is completely inadequate in most regions of the country particularly the backbirth red states which are completely fucked if they think theyre somehow immune to a viral pandemic by not reporting numbers Just this week Matt Gaetz a republican senator mocked people who were taking precautions then his constituents started dying|0 This happened in multiple cities in China as well including Wuhan Things are getting better here in China I am sure Italy will get through this battle as well Keep the spirit up stay stronghttpsweibointlapiweibocnshare131132708htmlweiboid4471614710547824|1 Where Doing what Give me an example because I see more people trying silence and downplay ANY reaction to this flu rather than admit its worse than what were hearing|0 Welcome to the west The freeest of them all We got free speech and everything But dare you not agree with everything we say or your a bigoted sexistic transphobic antisemite and we will get you fired and put you off welfare Dont get me wrong you still have all the rights were not a dictatorship or anything You wont be starving in gulags like all those evil men Its not our fault you dont have any money for food were the nice guysBest paradox is the your opinion is wrong because you are just a parasite living of welfare but if you have a job we will do everything we can to get you fired because your opinion is wrong|1 Its Sunday Are you suggesting unionized workers to actually spend time at work on Sunday Outrageous|0 what a stupid fucks they dont understand what is going on|0 CAN WE DO THIS IN THE US PLEASE I have a feeling the banks will be ok This shows how weak we are to adapt like other countries|1 Stay safe Keep us updated|1 Ha that post comment gave me the first laugh if the day And theres little to laugh at right now|1 Oh how very thoughtful|1 Im sorry to be that guy but can you explain in a more idiot friendly fashion Are you saying the best thing I can do to possibly disinfect surfaces or my own skin is put water and Dawn dish detergent on a paper towel and rub it on the thing Like for ten seconds 20 Does it not matter And do you have a resource about why this is so It sounds like youre saying its better than bleach Im not doubting you btw I just want to understand Because I have stocked up on Dawn for the dishes and such Now I am thinking that may have been smart|1 Ive been waiting to hear about that village please submit it here if there is data|1 Yeah things will be different because the economy is going to take a huge blow but itll slowly return to normal once everything is sorted out The only thing keeping us from the scenario in the movie Contagion is the death rate Its still serious but thank god the death rate isnt as high as it is in Contagion Theres currently a huge domino effect effect going on thats going to cause a ton of issues but its nothing we cant get past Its an inconvenience and loss|0 Really That doesnt seem like a lot There sre at least a hundred within 20 miles of me|0 We all know the Coronavirus gains more power the more people know about it like the villain in a childrens horror book|0 It is pretty stupid and very rude to their host nationBut also I see it as that British Were not afraid of anything bravado|0 Read 5 Days At Memorial and you can get a first hand account of doctors needing to decide who lives and dies|1 I appreciate your joke People get so offended these days|1 My company just sent out the word this evening All office staff is to work from home until further notice All sales trips client visits conferences etc canceled All consultants and external contract staff are being sent back from whence they came Everyone currently traveling for business is being brought back home immediatelyPretty nuts Never seen anything like it|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 Take care my friend know that you are doing the right thing for yourself and your little one and your pups You need to protect your family right now and youre doing a great job by being prepared Best case scenario your town evades trouble and you dont need to grocery shop for a while Make sure you wear a mask if you go out even one made of a tshirt is better than nothing|1 Would be nice if China did this for everyone they infected|0 There are way too many mixed messages out there unfortunately If you watch Dr John Campbell on YouTube you should feel more confident in your decision to cancel He is reputable and professional and he urges that we be proactive and not reactive and stay home There have been advisories to not go on Cruise ships this isnt that different httpsyoutubeB5yExFZFYw|1 I dont understand the TP panic buying Other things can be used in a pinch napkins paper towels newspapers etc Buy a 25 bidet on amazon to reduce TP usage If youre thinking of buying a full face respirator just buy it Once the panic buyers realize this is an alternative to n95 masks the stores will be out of them|0 Once agAin the R0 is not likely to stay at the same rate when you measure containment efforts It will like go up and down quite a bit|1 Thinking the same thing Such a phony briefing Cover your cough and wash your hands Jesusat least say cover your cough with your elbow This is so pathetic|0 Case case case cluster cluster boomI guess people dont know that China isnt shipping us medications anymore and neither is India What we have on hand is all we have|1 Political parrot Calls Taiwan a territory of China Wtf dude Any backbone|0 They just trying to help|1 Four Horsemen of the ApocalypsehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiFourHorsemenoftheApocalypse guess the Pestilence version is the right oneWhere do I repent my sins and confess my guilt in this final hour|0 Quite honestly of my son was that age I would deregistrr him to avoid repercussions can always re register him at a later date Ive kept my so off nursery since January its not about keeping in your house you can go to natural places we go to the beach and walk the dog etc but go everywhere in my car and maintain strict hygiene throughout We dont go where people are and thats how you combat cabin fever YOU CAN GO OUT just dont go where people are Dont go to shops and parks etc but you can go for a walk play football in an empty field etc At some point you have to draw the line I guess finding the line is hard Like do I stop my dog from doing in the garden as pets can carry the virus as a surface and come into my garden meaning my dog will pick it up on his paws put it on my floors where my toddler is playing Do I lock us all in and throw away the key So I had to draw a line yours may be different to mine but theyll both involve no contact with people|0 Wrong Its not a logarithmic growth Its quite steady and its stark now because we are ramping up testing|0 Happy to spread the word if you know of any other subreddits to post it to lmk|1 They are gonna stay on top of a shelf until they die of old age|0 I just got back from Kaiser Permanente in Los Angeles and was denied a corona test My boss does not know what to do with meFever 105Traveled from Hawaii 7 days agoI was tested for the flu which came back neg|0 Its thanks to the right winged governments they can get this rich|1 Any opportunity to automate a noticeable fraction 25 of the skilled adjustment with AIpurposebuilt electronics Even to make a partial adjustment in the correct direction to stretch the time waiting for a physician|1 Follow the source and look at their methodology This except doesnt speak to that specifically it could be drawn entirely from resolved cases in which case the recovered percentage is simply 100 percent dead That would make the most sense|0 If theres community spread ie a pandemic then by definition quarantine hasnt worked wont work and is unnecessary What we need to focus on now is social distancing and effective decontamination of fomites Which is what China did by essentially shutting down Wuhan Its simply a mitigation tactic to slow the viruss spread|1 china has a shitload of money isnt the issue brainpower more than cost Also china specifically didnt allow international help until the end of January as any google search would show|0 We havent hit the critical point yet Italy today just drafted 10000 medical students I imagine well be doing the same if it gets bad here|0 Yeah well I got holidays booked I aint got time for this shit|1 Lol I feel like youre ranting at me All I said is that the elderly are at higher risk of death from the coronavirus which is supported by the available data|1 tyedit no i meant the link from thestarcom is behind a paywall|0 Totally agree that well never get accurate stats out of Wuhan or China in general The real test of mortality rates will be for the confirmed cases outside China which are slowly building up That means well have to wait a week or two|1 Hows that Polio vaccine working out Hows that Measles vaccine working outPeople keep pointing to the vaccine like its a cureIt might be|1 NC has 300 tests for the whole state Mecklenburg County Charlotte one of the biggest cities in the country just tested 2 positive Press conference a few minutes ago someone asked how many were tested and she said they were given 3 tests by the state So 23 were positive and she was told after they use the 3 they will send 3 more When someone asked why only 3 she said the state has 100 counties so they have a lot to cover Its a fucking JOKE|1 Yah it is one thing to check on to rule out possibilities The virus doesnt appear to be mutating so its a little odd that people are amediately getting reinffected if the reports are true|1 No that is what we get for neglecting our primary school education system and focusing exclusively on colleges to get our population for our workforce while neglecting the trades and all other alternativesThe wanton greed from the universities is just icing on the shit cake|0 I work at a bank handling cash all day with nasty ass customers Its all but guaranteed Current advice from the corporation is to wash hands and use hand sanitizer and to not touch our face|1 Heres one investigating social distancing measures and the impact during the Spanish Flu pandemic httpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle208354|0 Werent you just saying how you shook hands with Gobert and he coughed in your face That was right after you got back from your tour of Bergamo Italy Wuhan China and Qom Iran Id totally vouch for you|0 Thats brilliant Guess what 0C is really cold and 100C is really hot too|1 Thank you Im not a virologist but wanted to investigate and see if there is any pharmacotherapy that could be used to treat the disease But not knowing much about the virus I didnt know where to begin looking for drug targets Thank you|1 Went to 13 years of catholic school It was a college prep school focused on science and math and factbased research that had a theology course once a day Im no longer catholic partially because of the noncatholic philosophy courses I took at my catholic school and also because the endemic abuse by priestsBut please dont mistake catholic teachings with that of evangelicals Catholicism has long since embraced science evolution and medicine|0 There is no good solutionBut people need to be talking with their extended family and friends for what if scenariosPeople should be practicing social distancing now Not waiting for a lot of cases to pop up in their areaSchools probably should be closed for the remainder of the school year as infections head toward peak|1 Not whento bunch of the cases were in a longterm care facility|1 Makes sense Id think in the long run the protests would hurt HK more than the disease but I think the two cities will be a sort of NYCLondon thing where they are both huge and have overlapping markets|1 Consumables are how many medical device companies make a profit and failure to enforce a patent can cost them their sustainable revenue This behavior is explainable yet reprehensible Its a litigious capitalism trapping everyone in a shitty cycle of greedy cynical actions that debase all parties|0 Prayers for them Please keep us updated|1 Oh shit I know that store|0 As someone whos in their mid twenties but also in remission with pretty severe lung damage this virus has me incredibly worried For someone like me whos 4 years into recovery but previously immunocompramised how soon should I take quarantine precautions|0 That seems to be the case I live in North Texas and nobody ever talked about Ebola until suddenly two cases showed up in their backyard Most were confused by the fact that a disease outbreak taking place in Africa could affect a semirural communityIts the same with this When cases pop up at your local hospital if info is released to the general public people will stop using that comparisonIf COVID19 becomes endemic and part of the seasonal cycle like the flu the new statement will be At least its just influenza|0 Haha I dont really consider Wikipedia as a valid source This virus is new Therefore nobody knows for sure if you can achieve immunity right away Or how long it can last|1 Or at least Italy would more readily admit to it|1 If you have IgG and no IgM that means you recovered and now immune If you have high IgG and low IgM it means you are either in the end of the infection or recently recovered|0 same growth trend as italy|1 Mass riots during a pandemic Yeah I wouldnt recommend that|0 no its not youre literally a fear mongering propagandist|0 Help us all |1 YES I was on all the horrible ones like Wuhan flu and all that every day it would be how this is literally the end of the world Covid19 is the only one that makes me feel hopeful so I follow that and my local ones|1 Your comment has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or postsI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 You have to pay on your own for quarantineAnd how the fuck are you going to stop the spread in the US if people are reluctant to go to the doctor in fear of being quarantined in fear of billsThis cant really go well|0 Holy shit 35k new cases|0 I am glad that you are optimistic about this whole situation However the chances are more likely then not that by the time your trip comes around that either Japan or the UK will have followed the lead of other countries and banned non essential travel inout Start mentally preparing for your trip to be cancelled now|1 Seems to me that 96 of americans are very sheeplike They look around no one else is acting out and the media says everything is fine so they gowell I guess everythings okay thenUnfortunately I think one of these days things are gonna get bad enough that the media cant notreport the situation anymore Then everyone beingsmart will rush to the stores and clean them out Thatll cause panic and the situation will cascade from there|0 When you put it that way I must agree|1 I cannot absolutely answer a question like this Your friend ought to see a doctor thats it|1 There is nothing morally wrong with price gauging thats the only way to get people to quickly get desperately needed supplies to disaster stricken area Without price gauging you get some people hoarding supplies while some people have nothing and there would be no incentives for anyone to risk themselves by supplying new supplies|0 Ah yeah sure armchair warriors of this sub definitely know better than the Japanese government|1 Ive been waiting for this for years Maybe Ill finally be able to buy a fucking house now|0 Is it possible to have now clear areas in a different color Or will this not matter in another 7 days |1 Nows a great time to explore the game if you havent already|1 File a consumer complaint with your states OAG You can do that through their website|0 In Holland no cleaning except for in the hospitals But i have seen a lot of trucks carrying cleaning goods to street cleaner companies like Twente Milieu I have also heard of the central food distribution that they started hoarding in large amounts of food all the suddenly|1 Elon Musk is devoting his life to make a Mars colony because he thinks Earth might be destroyed in the future and hes telling us dont be such an alarmistok Elon insert Jennifer Lawrence ok gif|1 Take your your red Christmas tree and fuck off|0 That line up sucks|0 So like 12 million Americans dead then A nation traumatized never to be the same again Thats your burn out situation|0 true but the flu has been around longer however it should be mentioned that when comparing the seasonal flu to covid19 the flu has a vaccine which not only prevents some people from getting it but reduces the severity in the people that do get the shot but still get the flu|0 Thanks for this this made me really smile|1 I might be wrong but Trump looked like he knew he was lying as he was talking during the beginning of the press conference He looked guilty|0 True but it kills in the same way that flu does respiratory distress and failure|0 Exponentially ominous|0 DM sent I dont know I can help but maybe|0 You can beat an epidemic like that A pandemic is a different beast|1 Same Im 30 and with mild asthma Area Im in has a few cases just pop up and one death so far of a 60 yo And just went to my local taco bell only to hear 90 of the workers coughing constantly not a good sign|0 edit well i saw your edit yeah you cant do that from a single caseYeah sorry lol At first my knee jerk reaction was that you didnt understand me but then I realized your point and you are correctThis is the part from OPs post that I have the biggest problem withSpeculation here Im beginning to think that the highest ranges of number of infected people from the studies published in The Lancet 78000 on Jan 25th might be actually underestimated a lot and there might have been dozens thousands infected as early as Jan 15thThose numbers are pure conjecture|0 I dont see what the big deal here with most of what is written there and what wasnt already obvious at the time of that post if it was dated a month earlier than fair enough Most people on these subreddits were watching all the videos coming out of China and putting two and two together and could see what was going to happenThe only unique info is on the bats which I have not heard anywhere which is interesting but one has to ask how would this spread from infected humans to bats I know absolutely squat on this if someone could elaborate|0 Made an account after years of lurking could not think of a good username for the life of me lol just to suggest emphasizing gloves or hand sanitizer at minimum after refueling Gas pumps can be highly contaminated and I suspect FL has a much higher degree of infection than we are aware of currently This is anecdotal of course but my friends who are RNs have some concerning stories about people being monitored for matching symptoms without testing Still I imagine driving is better than sharing breathing space with who knows how many potentially infected people on a fight Best of luck to you and your parents mine are 73 63 and Im also trying to convince them to take protective measures at the moment|1 Movies mentioned in the articleIn an extraordinary step the studio on Monday said it would make its movies available in the home on the same day as their global theatrical releases beginning with DreamWorks Animations Trolls World Tour opening April 10 in the USThe company will also make movies that are currently in theatrical release available ondemand beginning as early as Friday starting with the Elisabeth Moss horror film The Invisible Man the satirical thriller The Hunt and Focus Features period comedydrama Emma|0 the original weibo is censored and deleted A woman commented to a user who asked for help online my family member passed away this afternoon there should be a bed available you can try to contact this hospital|1 Singapore can only do this because theyre extremely rich per capita and also have a small population relatively over a small area|1 Is there an episode with Last week tonight where they dont take half the program to just shit on the trump administrationIts just tiresome to watch I used to enjoy Last Week Tonight but since the trump administration came into power it has just been very boring|0 yep|1 Im sorry but what the fuck|0 I make ZERO profit on the house How is it greed I wanted out of the neighborhood i was in They wanted to rent a house for their family and coulld not purchase one because their credit is bad Renting was their only option I hope to god the virus renders you sterile so you cannot reproduce and add your DNA to the gene pool|1 Its actually weird to see health officials lie in real time in an attempt to keep supplies available for doctors and nurses They are probably right to lie to us for that very reason but to have johns hopkins WHO CDC saying that masks are not helpful is unnerving when you know they are lying about it|0 Im assuming the numbers are a lot worse for USA How do other countries have way more cases than here but less deaths Is America not testing enough We shouldnt have a 6 mortality rate|0 I feel like I have ghost pneumonia however its not as bad as Ive had it in the past Probably from the cold and stress of the elections|1 Yes but they would cause side effect in long term use as carbon dioxides would accumulate in the mask and thats why some agencies and governments like Singaporean government are discouraging general public from using N95 mask And theres also supply problem|0 My parents are currently in the UK No worries Im bashing my head against the wall and in fact managed to put a hole in some art I had on the wall when I through my phone Good luck to you and your friends|1 Looks like deepmind was already working on it httpsdeepmindcomresearchopensourcecomputationalpredictionsofproteinstructuresassociatedwithCOVID19|1 Italy is in total lockdown with overwhelmed hospitals with only 03 of their population infected Yes that number is optimistic|1 New Zealand has its first confirmed infected|0 Ummmm they didnt actually ban it|1 Me too Just this morning a couple of dumbasses thought it was totally legit to travel via plane to go visit long distance romantic partners despite the risk it puts immunocompromised individuals They didnt care Said I cared more about my life as a diabetic than about their love life Fuck yes I do People dont deserve to die because they want to be with a romantic partners I get it It sucks It also sucks for us who could be screwed But fucking wait a few more months Jesus|1 Apparently according to the Italian data isolated COVID19 patients recover faster as wellhttpswwwrepubblicaitsalutemedicinaericerca20200316newscoronavirusstudioil5075deicasiavosonoasintomaticiemoltocontagiosi251474302So maybe in some countries they are putting all the infected patients together which is increasing the total viral load|0 So like possibly thousands of many others|1 In dry air the droplets quickly dry up and become smaller ie lighter so they float in the air longer In humid air droplets stay large and settle due to gravityHowever I dont think the humidity is playing a large role in Singapore because people interact mostly in airconditioned interiors public transport where people are packed like sardines are airconditioned|1 I think this is all happening in stages to preventease hysteria and mass travel crushes like we are seeing in the US Everyone rushing home at once will be as dangerous as leaving the borders open Similar to the rollout of provincial shutdowns People are complaining they arent doing enough but if they go from 0 to 100 in a day it will cause more problems than it prevents I would have preferred the rollout start in later January mind you but the West really needed an Italy situation tragically to realize they were vulnerable|0 I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised with the serious tone Trump took and the affirmative steps he took I am not a Trump fan but I am applauding his address tonight|1 businessinsidercom is a news outlet If possible please resubmit with a link to a primary source such as a peerreviewed paper or official press release Rule 2If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCOVID19 reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Totally agree It would do wonders for overall morale if people limited their exposure to the information overload But people wont self discipline|0 The world has given up containing this virus and will allow it to run its coursewhat in the fuck are you talking about lol|1 So I live in Spain and Im clueless about what were supposed to do about our pets I have a dog and I would very much like it if I didnt have to teach her to do her business inside the apartment Guess Ill see the first time I go out with her|0 You either think truth matters or it doesnt I tend to think you should be truthful Maos disastrous policies killed 3040 million Chinese I tend to reject people who open their mouths and lies about things to make things look worse for political points or karma For example saying the GLF killed upward of 100 million peopleYou can be whoever and whatever you want to be I simply believed that there are truth and there are falsehood|0 Your kid wont get sick but your kid could still give it to youAnd this is why kids are the perfect vectors It is utter insanity to not cancel schools because of this|1 Most governments reserve the right to seize property especially intellectual property for national security The government has to make it legal problem solved and the plans should enter the public domain and go on thingverse to distribute it as needed|1 Thats my thought too But where to find info on how to manage fresh fruit and veg cant exactly boil lettuce for a salad Interesting that there isnt a lot of info on this Washing your hands goes a long way But hows about washing food fruit and veg|1 They only just recently started mentioning it cause the joint commission came through and cited a bunch of hospitals for improper cleaning It was news to many of our hospitals too lmao|1 Thank you|1 The process to approve medical devices through the FDA in the US is also similar to the process to approve aviation parts and aircraft It takes forever but for good reason Also making more of an existing line would be much faster to replicate tooling and logistics instead of reinventing the wheel|1 Thanks|1 Man redditors will jump at any chance to victimize men Literally nobody here thinks women cant also be nasty and spiteful People just say hehim by default for everything good or bad|0 Slightly off topic but I found out that if my county closes schools they will still somehow be providing free and reduced lunch to kids who need it|1 Welcome to America where the only color that matters is green and fuck everyone else|0 Try to find info about the Belt and Road Initiative projects in Italy Its anything but benign if youre able to decode CCP doublespeak Start watching Serpentza laowhy86 China Uncensored Eyeopening|1 Right and then you still probably want to worry for the worst case scenarios|0 you should be concernedplease stop panickingInstructions unclear|0 thanks Obama turned into thanks Trump|1 Hmm USA companies too for all the ecological disasters they have caused|0 No different than the NYT though|0 They wont shut down schools for 2 reasons1 Schools are paid by the federal government based on attendance2 Schools are evaluated by the state government based on standardized test scoresIts a sad fucking world we live in but thats what we are up against when it comes to administration|0 We all have bidets in Thailand but on a much cruder level than Japan Essentially every toilet comes with a sprayer just like the one found in North American kitchen sinks|0 Its useful Ill watch it as well|1 Well at the end of the day we are talking about models predictions I dont put too much trust in models and predictions to tell the truth There are always unknowns and it can go either way Anyway thanks for the discussion Take care Thumbs up |1 I also have OCD OCD can manifest in many different ways for me I have PureO OCD purely obsessional I have a theme that my brain cant seem to move away from Obviously with the trigger of COVID19 my contamination OCD has been insane Im not afraid of getting it myself Im afraid of bringing it to my mom This results in my wiping things down several times a day washing my hands raw visualizing the germs on everything I come in contact with seeing them fly through the air when someone coughs without covering etc|0 What have they improved Should i download it again|1 She could have looked for this quality before bring children into the world So irresponsible|0 was just in Sarasota yesterday Motherfucker|0 You will get through this You will survive thisSix weeks from now six months from now look back at this post and promise yourself Never Again Never again will you have to worry about food never again will you have to worry about toilet paper never again will you be stressed about where basic provisions come from How Become a prepper not the crazy kind you see on TV being made a fool of but the kind that always keeps a few weeks water food toilet paper and medicine on hand just in case|0 You need help Help yourself Theres not a single country on the planet that has a government that will completely save people from this|1 thanks to global warning this probably wont be the first pandemic we see in our lifetimes|1 Which is why we need to stay home Close schools cancel social events vacations and limit trips out to public areas My husband and I were supposed to go on a trip to New Mexico but we decided to cancel Not because we think we have been exposed or feel sick but because we just dont know I dont want to be responsible for spreading it|0 Not really sure Pretty stunning to watch that statement He doesnt like the EU does hePretty much guaranteed that BoJo will have to take some action later today|0 I remember reading that during the Spanish Flu epidemic there was a drastic shortage of doctors and nurses so Amelia Earhart before she was famous took like a two day nursing course and joined a corps of volunteers Im currently unemployed Can I provide backup support for our Americas doctors and nurses|1 Pretty easy for a multimillionaire to selfquarantine|1 I had a professor like this too His favorite trick was to talk so fast you couldnt successfully take notes this was nearly 30 years ago so it wasnt easy to just record him If he saw you glancing down and writing hed bang impatiently on the chalkboard with his chalk and say come on keep up He would also heavily insinuate you were stupid if you struggled with the material|0 You should go back to the hospital Get another Xray while they still have room Try again to get a test I had pneumonia years ago I was so tired it was so painful But they gave me pneumonia drugs Maybe they can treat the pneumonia|0 How come people go by what is officially reported We should be adding a 0 to the end of the number because a lot of cases are not tested and just rolled under as flu pneumonia complications etc|0 NOBODY DOES THAT HOLY SHITI swear to god posters on this sub just make up crap about the consenus on this sub and then every pant shitting moron runs with it|0 Ive been talking tome friends in NYC whom some use to swim in a gym in new Rochelle prior to the outbreak and they had no idea about the containment or even the onset of cases It was shocking to me think that they still acted as if its no big deal like its a common cold There not high risk but either way this is definitely an indicator of how governments and citizens will be handling future events|1 Even polio didnt cause this much panicWe also have so much more social media that is causing a lot more of the panic Almost no 2 people in this thread can agree on the current news theyve heard its all wildly varying from how deadly to how many are infected to how many deaths it might produce The news is much responsible for all the panic buying Not to mention youtubers who made prepper videos have skyrocketed in views watched a random one the other day first item he recommended stocking up on Toilet paper|0 Which country do you live in Im familiar with wearing surgical masks in public because I have lived in the Far East for many years Unfortunately Europeans are very stubborn in this respect If you wear a mask in public they look at you with suspicion in the worst case you might even get attacked I think the attitude will change in the coming days and weeks as the corona spreads in Europe Unfortunately authorities havent provided for enough masks so they are now spreading the narrative that masks are useless or even dangerous to cover their back I think this is criminal negligence on the part of the authorities If your boss becomes more aware of the global pandemic in the coming days try to convince him that wearing a mask is to protect the customers and to give them a feeling of safety its like handling vegetables with gloves instead of with your bare hands|0 Oh like we wouldnt kick in for their GoFundMe legal defensePlease lets get this lawsuit going so we can slap them right down|1 I completely agree that this lady is insane But if youve got decent gas milage there is no way youre spending 45 on gas driving 3 hours|0 Well its be a good idea to avoid Socialist gatheringsNot hating on socialism just making a bad joke sorryEdit Guess its good enough to have a silver thanks dude|1 Or they are trying to kill the rhetorics that China should be responsible for this outbreak by suggesting something borderline ludicrousStraight out of Trumps playbook|0 Great Start doing it now Whenever you have time Look for masks hand sanitizer under various spellings to avoid being removed wipes and report it Thanks|1 Yeah we need high paid people we care about to tell us what to do Murca|1 minds in tv journalismIts a super low bar though so it might not be unreasonable|1 This quite literally backs up everything Ive saidWere working on the assumption right now that an outbreak is inevitable We cannot stop this spread we can only delay itMaybe you should read your own quote again a bit more slowly Specificallybut stressed the virus could still be controlled The WHO defines a pandemic as a situation in which the whole worlds population would likely be exposed to this infection and potentially a proportion of them fall sick Michael Ryan who heads the WHOs emergencies programme has saidx200BIm going to state it this virus doesnt give a fuck about your feelings It doesnt care if the thought of many deaths upsets you You all need to pull the wool from over your eyesAt what point did you get the impression that I think the virus cares about my feelings Or for that matter is capable of caringIn a month or so time when the UK is badly infected I expect you to come back to this comment and admit that I was right But you wontRight about what exactly EDIT httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOJQTM4QbTsgt13m53shttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvOJQTM4QbTsgt13m53s|0 Again this shows what a fucked society we live in that the employer wouldnt be covering thisGod forbid the billionaires help|0 At least they are admitting the real figures are prob much higher Still bullshit strategy so far|0 Singapore has as good a chance of stopping it as any one else Singapore is uniquely screwed right now though Theyre gearing up for an outbreak of dengue with a strain that was previously not dominant That means the population hasnt been dealing with this strain and everyones susceptible to it everyones dodging two bullets now Healthcare subsidies for low income is quite generous The contact tracing has been pretty good and the minute they discovered cases they couldnt trace they raised their infectious disease status Everyone panicked supermarkets sold out|1 Wouldnt count the German government as reliable source these days At least regarding the pandemic they are acting more incompetent than ever|0 Hopefully you guys used it to your advantage Its kind of a super power assuming this wasnt a broken clock is right twice a day type of thing and youre not susceptible to false alarmsI bought a big bottle of hand sanitizer a box of gloves a reusable cartridge mask a tyvek suit a handful of disposable masks vitamin D supplements and enough supplies to not leave my low density apartment for a month at the end of JanuaryHad zero problems getting all of that stuff because I got it early Ive never done anything like that beforehavent had false scares that have made me prep for things that didnt happen To me this was obviously a big dealreal not something overblown that I was prepping for unnecessarily I didnt tell anyone irl so I didnt seem crazy and I dont intend to use much of it unless a family member gets it and I need to take care of them andor the cases skyrocket to the point where I dont feel good going to the grocery store Im relatively low risk and am feeling extremely well prepared though definitely not invincible or anythingOnly thing I didnt do was move my money I seriously considered it but I made a commitment to think of it as a long term investment that was out of my mind when I put it in as I know most people lose money by moving it aroundyou tend to do better if you just sit on and hold a diversified portfolio Im still ahead of inflation from when I put it in I think and Im pretty sure its going to go back up at some point I think China heavy stuff might not but I dont think I have any of that but I do kind of regret not taking advantage of thisBut either way though it kind of sucks to be the lone voice of reason when people ignore you to theirs and everyone elses detriment there are definitely positive aspects to it|1 Im sorry are the medical companies trying to monopolize something in the time of crisis Thats mutiny|0 Dont goConvince everyone you possibly can not to go eitherThink of the bigger picture hereThis is like going to work during a zombie apocalypse or somethingThe regular concerns of not getting fired or being disciplined hardly mean as much in the face of whats going on|1 No but it slows down the spread and buys us valuable time to react|1 Capitalism can be reckless Its the only reason this and other events arent cancelled If NBA games the Olympics and European cup gets cancelledthen we are zombie apocalypse fucked|0 There is no job worth your life I really really dont want to be an alarmist but China doesnt have a good track record with being honest It is either as bad or worse than China is reporting|0 this is the kind of time it would come in handy for securityAll that means is the people coming for you are used to handling firearms and will probably be better equipped Youre more likely to get shot unless you really know what youre doing|1 An old 4chan post predicted that Italy would be next after China before I believe Italy even has a case or ver fewThen went on to say that you didnt want to virus going to Brazil due to the bats in Brazil and this virus mixing with those bats to create a worse version|0 Ive been wearing my and it certainly alerts people when they see it I think its a good thing because people are still not taking it seriously enoughAnd overkill is relative this is some lady in Hong Kong and it was weeks agohttpsiimgurcomjZP9p8ljpg|1 I totally feel the same way We are failing because of arrogance and bias|0 Someone legit downvoted this good news lmao Yall upset because they werent positive|1 No matter what country or city you live in The most important thing you can do is Go home now via a quiet grocery store and lock your front door Then Look at the exponential growth in various countries on these sheets Especially first 60 days bottom of sheet httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfcs1c7covid19highlydetailedspreadsheetsandgraphs Hopefully those graphs will convince you that locking your front door now was a good idea|1 Hes scared of the virus|0 The doctors and nurses in my family have already simply assumedaccepted theyll get it They are already limiting their contact with anyone they know who is in a more vulnerable demographic but some of them are themselves a more vulnerable demographic my aunt and uncle nurse and doctor respectively retired to work for a free clinic a few years ago and theyre both 70|1 Yes please|1 Would not surprise me In Germany was the case with a 22 year old that visit the Charit hospital in Berlin with flu like symptoms but was tested negative for it so the send him back home However the lucky part was that the medical center changed the own testing procedures so that every single flu case would be tested on the coronavirus too and he got tested positive with the Covid19 virus later the eveningsource in German for the case httpswwwdeutscheapothekerzeitungdenewsartikel20200302berlinercoronaviruspatientzufaelligentdeckt|0 Think about all the people with undiagnosed or subtle respiratory issues from the aftermath and debris of 911 This is not going to end well for anyone This country almost deserves this we voted these fucking idiots in the first place|1 God damn my metaphor has been destroyed with facts|0 No Im saying that there has been enough time and informational sources for people to know that the CDC is not adequately protecting us from this pandemic and that choosing to do something regardless of their poor advice is not excused by the fact that theyre the government agency tasked with providing accurate informationOr put another way feeling ill is not a feeling in the sense that you are using it When you are suffering from physical symptoms and then ask someone else what you should do about it if they give you poor advice that doesnt mean you stick your head in the sand and proceed as if everythings normal and then blame them for your actionsMy daughter has pink eye right now so Ive been keeping her out of school all week long The doctor wrote a note when my wife took her in for the initial checkup so we could put her back in school without having to come in for a second visit It hasnt cleared up yet however so Im still monitoring her condition Thats me observing and using my brain in the situation its not a feeling like sadness or fear in the way that you tried to construct that straw man Its my responsibility to observe her symptoms and not take her back to school until her pink eye is resolvednot take her in and throw my hands up in the air when other innocent children develop pink eye because a doctor wrote me a note that isnt correct|0 Thats how the world works man Do you really think people are equally important|1 Im not a medical doctor so dont take this as medical advice but I think Codeine is okay as long as its not combined with an antiinflammatory T3 Tylenol 3httpsenwikipediaorgwikiCodeineparacetamol should be fineCodeinehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCodeine itself is an Opiate and not an antiinflammatoryThe source articlehttpswwwtheguardiancomworld2020mar14antiinflammatorydrugsmayaggravatecoronavirusinfection says the problem is with ibuprofen cortisone Its based on a tweet by the French health ministerhttpstwittercomolivierveranstatus1238776545398923264Translated Taking antiinflammatory drugs ibuprofen cortisone could be a factor in worsening the infection If you have a fever take paracetamolIf you are already on antiinflammatory drugs or in doubt ask your doctor for adviceIbuprofen AdvilhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiIbuprofen is a class of drug called nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drug NSAID NSAID is the problem so if Codeine is mixed with a NSAID theres a problemAspirin ASAhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiAspirin is an NSAID so perhaps that should be avoided as wellThe other problem class of drug mentioned in the tweet is cortisonehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCortisone which is steroid hormonehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiSteroidhormone Steroid hormone are corticosteroids and sex steroid It looks like the corticosteroids are the problem as theyre used for antiinflammatory purposes by suppressing the immune systemSomebody else in this comment section linked an article about Steroids and COVID19 being a problemhttpswwwsciencedailycomreleases202002200206110703htmI myself use a topical corticosteroids cream for rashes so I guess its working by suppressing the immune response of my skin to overreact and rash up But I should be fine as Coronavirus is not a skin infection Somebody else in the comment section brought up asthma I guess their inhalers uses corticosteroids mist to suppress their immune system in their lungs in an antiinflammatory fashion Yeah their going to be high risk because the lungs is where Coronavirus is going to infect|0 I would agree with you if they were asking him like he was a doctor and what advice he recommends for the average person But hes the coach of a highly paid football team that travels internationally this question is entirely relevant to him and his answer is inappropriately harsh|1 An epidemic is something you actually can run from in blind terror and escape You just need to get the fuck away from people It isnt the optimal strategy but our current strategy is what exactly|0 Unfortunately it could be the oppositeAt temperatures of around 4C or 392oF certain versions of the coronavirus could remain viable for up to 28 days At temperatures of 3040C 86104F coronaviruses tended to persist for a shorter timesource not sure if trustworthyhttpswwwmedicalnewstodaycomarticlescoronaviruseshowlongcantheysurviveonsurfacesHowlongdocoronavirusespersist Which is surprising if true it seems like it lives less time on a humanbody temperature surface than a frigid one But I mean 20 could be a whole different ballgame|1 Well even in Italy its still like that so|1 For everyone saying why are Americans allowedWe need them for commerce No sane people are coming here to vacation now|0 Good for them |1 And our CFR will undoubtedly be on the higher end with how overloades our medical system can get and how unhealthy a lot of our people are People really arent connecting the dots here 40 is 132M people and 1020 of cases need hospitalization Many of those can die without some degree of extensive medical intervention making the CFR jump from 2 to 5 or 7 like in ItalyWhat is 23 of 132M What is 7 of 132M 26 to 924 millionHowever nervous people may be they arent nearly nervous enough|0 Did you misspell President and wrote press by mistake|0 Trumps WH meeting with the heads of the major airlines They pushed him to not call for any warning against flying|0 beer is good for you and has calories if you need em|1 Yes Stay connected and find ways to help even if its something little like chatting with a worried friend sharing some recipe ideas checking on a neighbor at a distance anything little to help someone else out tends to make you feel less out of control and just bummed by it all|1 The industry has skirted wage and hour laws for decades by registering in foreign countries and hiring desperate people from third world countries who will work for peanuts|0 Agreed I understand where a formal trial takes time but this seems like the sort of situation where its worth releasing preliminary results|1 Have premium VPN due to company Change VPN to location to Italy ProfitEdit Did not check amazon but xhamster is actually premium with VPN What a lovely day|1 That will not be enough for my sister and her big fat ass|0 Have the Olympics ever been canceled Its such a moneytourism maker Id wonder if theyd just ban China from the event or if theyd cancel the entire thing There are cases in other countries but I would think itll be controlled by thenexcept for in China x200BFun story My fiance is in China She works at a hospital She told me yesterday that things are starting to get better in China Cities are opening back up and so on I said How do you know that Do you know what she said to me Do you know what the hell she said to me She said The government is telling us things are getting better lkajldajlskjsjdflaksjlj778980|0 To be honest I trust the WHO experts more than the reddit armchair experts|1 Agreed why was there no enforcement food market to stop selling of jungle meat Most new infectious disease in human arise from animal vectors I dont care if some people say those poor farmers just needs to make some money Its a public safety hazard as we see here and enforcement should be maximum punishment relative to danger selling wild animal meat can cause|0 Dude ChinaCCP even survived Tiananmen massacre This is not going to take her down trust me|1 My area is a little smaller but relatively large aka not a small town in the middle of nowhere As of yesterday we had test results from a whopping 9 people Im good friends with a nurse and they are not being allowed to test people unless they have traveled to Italy China or know they were in direct contact with someone with a positive test AND checked all the symptom boxes|1 I somehow doubt that after all look at the Spanish Flu Its just people beinh people being people|0 Im having a hard time finding other sources|0 I do think if you go for medical care a few questions should be asked and records kept I understand you cant test everyone I know 3 people with pneumonia age 2023 They were healthy and suddenly sick 1 works with people from China and was asked nothing and our city is small but almost everyday has hundreds of Chinese Tourists The leadership of China last fall even thanked our rural area for be so wonderful to the tourists when they had an accident it is hard to go out to eat especially at buffets or large chain or to the factory mall without seeing the tour buses While maybe these 3 cases are just random and not the virus the doctors should be noting any pneumonia especially in young healthy people in case the person takes a serious turn and is in the hospitalThe tour buses are not as full these days but they were in full all December in January One of the companies that runs the buses was on the news saying how business has slowed the last few weeks and how their business is hurting|1 I think intubation is critical while external oxygen is severe So holy shit I cant breatheam I dying is still mild|0 Im a catholic and stopped drinking that wine cup ever since I saw some communion crumbles at the bottom of a cup as a kidI know God has its rules but God gave me a brain too|1 I believe the conspiracy lies in the reasons why we dont have tests At this point other countries literally have drivethrough COVID testing The question is how does a country as advanced as the United States fall this far behind the testing and preparation curve The answer is either incompetence or malevolence|0 I work in the restaurant business in Turin if things go further my company is definitely going to close the stores since we serve traditional Chinese foodI felt this shit since 15th of January Hoped shit would not be this serious and egotistically speaking hoped itll not be this fucking close|0 Fuck them|0 Just look at how they handled Katrina Scientists warned and they knew it was coming yet they still bungled it But given the reactive nature of the gov at least subsequent responses to Hurricanes improved even it did jack for their lack of foresight and prepare for other scenarios|0 I dont think they are giving an update this Sunday|1 Three hours well spent Excellent post Canadians doing Canadians proudThanks for doing your part to keep people informed|1 Yeah was thinking more that the virus might have spread much more widely than what youd expect from the number of deaths if a bunch of deaths have been missed|1 5 BBs at my school none have damaged ears|1 An R0 of 37 would have infected everyone on the ship 700 affected is an R0 of 114|0 I made a list of what household supplies I normally use and just bought an additional one or two of them depending on frequency of usage Then I figured out my normal eating habits and did the same thing It helps Im a healthy single adult in my 30s so I have no unusual or exorbitant needs But even in the best of times it sucks to run out of wet wipes or shampoo so might as well have some on hand anyway|1 even if the tests where ready if you only test the most severe cases you are late by at least a week to stop community spread I wish they started random testing of patients in early stage of flu symptoms There is no doubt that Trump will lose the election once we see the numbers go up in the US|0 People that vote for him are the same demographic most at risk in this epidemic If Trump loses a huge chunk of his Boomer voters specifically the idiotic ones who believed him and took no precautions not sure how we survives that politically|0 This got out of hand around early February|1 By the way I enjoy your posts in rmy600lblife|1 He stated that he was in a position to quitwhich of course factored into my responseHim exposing himself to the coronavirus in no way helps protect his familyIm not going to debate you further Take care|1 Im in Texas I have several auto immune diseases so Im immunosuppressed I dont leave my house even though we arent in a hot zone I am not risking anything Not with my bad health My husband works and does the exact same thing He doesnt bag his clothes although Im starting to think he should He washes his hands before leaving work Washes them once he gets home and then showers Hope you stay safe|1 Then youre welcome|1 Philly canceled their parade this year Individual people are just stupid|0 Thank you I was also blind|0 Testing will not change his status He is either infected or not|0 Looking at Koreas fatality numbers its looking like 8 as opposed to Chinas 23 10 is asking a lot|0 The county I live in has had 1 death and 5 confirmed cases The public school I go to has around 3000 students and refuses to take this seriously My teachers have already told us this will blow over We are a 15 minute walk away from the elderly community|0 Great question Its a major hotel chain so Id imagine theyll be okay longterm but they did basically lay off a lot of the hourly workers who just get paid when they work events Unless they completely shut the hotel down for several months it seems like theyd be able to find something for her to do but its hard to know|1 So just like that nurse was saying here yesterday we dont just walk away and shrug if youre not diagnosed and everyone downvoted her Because I thought that was a good indication that its not thousands and thousands hidden here in usa|1 Im gonna be getting into the EMS field later this year Seems like I chose a rough time to decide to join lol|1 Yall are fools for thinking my whole purpose was to reinstate the Pharoahs P btw Prince of Egypt is a great movie and I imagined your voice was Moses My only point was hubris We are acting negligently even evilly in allowing our democratic capitalist system to exist with such instability Depressions civil wars or potential collapse is not fun|0 Hold up Go to 544 Did they really just warn people that a temperature difference from opening a window could cause the common cold Is this a mistranslatedTheres no way that the people writing this information video think thats true so why include it in the video If they do think its true how can they be this read up on the coronavirus and just overlook how viruses in general workEven worse it looks like none of the 152 other people who posted comments didnt pick this up or just didnt bother to mention itEdit For those of you thinking its mistranslated its not Another commented pointed this out as well but before seeing this comment I had went back and checked and realized that the translation is done very well and hardcoded obviously by the NK government before I saw thisHIGHNRG00httpswwwredditcomuserHIGHNRG00 2 points1 hour agohttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfbqasunorthkoreangovernmentcreatesbetterpsavideosfj6hzgt They translate it and post it on a state run YouTube channel I just discovered it last weekThere are legitimately a lot of people praising their healthcare system in these comments and this sort of should be pointed out Whats even worse is that I dont think they actually believe what they said about catching a cold from the weather I think its some weird form of population control the reason for which is completely lost on most of us including meThe problem really lies in what other statements they feed the general public like this Its not like the average person can just hop on the internet that the rest of the world has access to I think they are only permitted to use an operating system called RedStar or something and only have access to an internal NK internet sheltered from the outside world|0 thats sad it would be scary to be alone if she developed severe symptoms|0 Im sure global pandemic with closed borders is one of the few acceptable reasons to reschedule|1 Ah Noted thanks for the info|1 should be local level to an extent yes but thell need a tonne of extra funding|1 Ok not cool|1 Bush did not go full dictator with the FEMA camps Having a quick way to provide shelter in the case of a hurricane or God knows what else is a good thing Could it be used for evil Of course Every tool can be used for good or ill But declaring the existence of a tool proves its for nefarious purposes is conspirqcy bullshit|0 Meanwhile lets ignore airlines that knowingly flew infected passengers all over the world turning this localised infection into a global pandemic|0 Ooof I have a lot of friends going to shows including the offSXSW shows next week and I will refuse to see them for at least 2 weeks after Most understand but a few were offended Im moderate risk and my wife is high risk Were not taking chances|0 Same speech patterns as the ones from januaryI can just hear them nowSource Theres no evidence Its kids playing a prank|0 Im just providing some honest context and here you are getting upset over it Theres no reason to do so unless you have an agenda here that relies on a lack of context|0 Not necessarily vaccinated Just assured that effective medical care will be there for them if they fall illNo matter how many Americans die from treatable illness due to healthcare shortages these people know they will always be able to access topoftheline medical careI wouldnt be surprised if the President has his own ventilator equipment that will remain unused during this epidemic if he doesnt end up needing it I wouldnt be surprised if all of the super rich have their own And so would their loved ones And along with all the equipment they could possibly need they would each have their own doctor and full nursing staff on call who will stop treating others to attend only to them in their homes 247That stockpiling would have been part of what the super rich were doing while the administration was stalling for time by assuring us that this is a hoax and refusing to use the WHOapproved testsMeanwhile we are on course for the same crisis Italy is in where doctors must choose who dies because they dont have the equipment to save everyone who could be saved|1 Thanks for the info about asthma my mum has it mildly and its a great concern for me you helped put me at ease|1 If I use the credit they gave me to buy a refundable flight Can I then buy the flight and get a refund|1 old versus young men versus women Given a man and women in the same condition same age the women will most likely get priority No issue with that|0 Japan and Singapore to be correct However totals in both are still 100 so itll be contained Everyone there is scared enough already|0 The biggest failure I see is that the adminstration is sending out WRONG information to the public They need to call it what it isa pandemic and a potential national crisis People need to be educated of the severity of the situation and what each individual should do Instead in order to control any panic the government choose to play down the situation in the media despite warnings from experts and examples from the rest of the world That sounds awfully like something China usually would be blamed for doingfooling its own people The majority of the Americans take no interest in the rest the world and are too focused on their day to day to understand what the infection number means Even right now most of my friends still do not take it seriously at all|0 If this is true I feel that the uni should be called out for knowingly lying to its students|0 Hey at least hes trying OK|1 It is clear that the optimism of the poster is misplaced from the fact that no printed source can be found to back up their assertions The government has published no plan and we are rightly worried|1 Im so sorry youre going thru this its really shitty that hes doing this I would talk to him as strongly as I could and if he doesnt listen then maybe see where you stand and make the decision|0 No you are right about that Theyre not all cold hearted killers and even those people can do decent things every now and again|0 where geniuses also being trolls and trolls act like geniuses|1 Absolute Whoreson|0 I need someone to tell me how this virus kills|0 Snubbing social distancing right now is morally equivalent to being an antivaccine We will probably get through this without a major catastrophe due to the efforts of most people while a minority will reap the reward they do not deserve|1 Definitely the Brazilian congressEu abracei meio Congresso Voc entra l dentro vindo de uma viagem internacional e acaba abraando os caras A gente gosta deles Eles gostam da gente A gente abraa pergunta como foi a viagem Estive com Rodrigo Maia com Davi Alcolumbre com Paulo Guedes com Mandetta com Ramos numa reunio em que falei que deveramos tomar providncia e ter disciplina No precisamos esperar morrer um para depois fazer o que tem de fazer afirmou Trad referindose aos ministros da Economia Sade e Secretaria de GovernoThose are brazilian politicians and ministers|1 That was their original intent but not what they ended up doing|1 It appears that you are asking a question If you have not already please include references related to your question if possible Reminder for people answering Please keep answers evidencebased and source your statements appropriately Thank you for keeping the discussions on rCOVID19 factualI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCOVID19 if you have any questions or concerns|1 Are these genes able to be discovered on a 23 me report If so I wonder if knowing elevated risk would even matter We havent found effective ways to reduce risk|0 How much do you wanna bet the end result is much closer to 2 than it is to 33Yes this estimate is better than the CFR likely by an order of magnitude so yes its much better to spam this number than the 33 BS CFR that literally changes significantly each day|1 Because I had never participated in one of these It looks like a regular chat|1 You kinda have to treat each state like a country though at this point I feel People really arent traveling for the most part|1 gotta bomb it|0 It sounds like you have had a this novel coronavirus You really ought to get tested because it seems even for mild cases mens fertility may well be reduceddestroyed because of ACE2 receptors in the testes httpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022418v1fullpdfhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020021220022418v1fullpdf|1 Agree|1 That thing is shaped like the cap my grandmother use to cover a tall pot for steaming traditional steamed egg cake for lunar new year |1 How much ICUs is recommended per day I have tablets with 6000 ICUs per tablet|1 Yea if someone smoke and still manages to test positive it seems they are more likely to have severe illnessBut if all you know is someone smokes they are less likely to have mild illness or severe illness after exposure So calling it a risk factor is wrong|0 It spreads very easy under the right conditions and when people arent serious about hygiene|1 Ill take a few|0 You completely edited what you asserted after I replied as evidenced by the quotes not matching up I dont think youre having this conversation in good faithLook lots of patients get chest CT based on pneumonia symptoms Its close to universal in many places and a big fraction in othersSay that Ive made a big overreach I dont think so and only 10 of suspected and unusual pneumonia cases get chest CT That doesnt really change the time to detection of community based spread much youll have enough cases quickly that youll still trip over it Its only if its 01 or 001 that theres a big swing but I dont think youre asserting thatThe big big point is China was able to detect communitybased spread of something relatively early despite having a shitty public health system and no reason to be particularly diligent no PCR no known pattern of disease etc Why do you think the US is going to be so much worse at spotting communitybased spread despite having the benefits of knowing the presentation of the disease and having PCR available for confirmation and some surveillance etc|0 Chromebook hot spot Same price to give 100 kids that as one person being in the hospital over nightThese are all solvable problems|0 I think its really concerning to know that despite education and so much free time so many people are so stupid|0 yOU FORGOT THAT THE USA NOW WANTS TO BAIL OUT THE CRUISE INDUSTRYTHEY ARE WORTHLESS THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY AGAIN THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND THE BANK INDUSTRY WHATS UR THOUGHTS ON THATOH BY THE WAY THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE PETRODOLLAR AS IF THE USA LOSES THAT IT LOSES THE RESERVE CURRENCY STATUS|0 Lets not forget the technology which transcends the speed of actions|1 Im an older student with an immunodeficient child You never know who is sitting next to you Please stay home Life Attendance|1 Agree that most patients with ARDS need a higher PEEP but it seems conceivable to give 10 of facemask peep with the right cleverness This might help some of the low acuity patients and temporize flatten our curve The aerosol problem is real but an exhaust filter might be able to be used I am actually going to work a little on this today|1 This is better math than the CDC could do|1 its not fearmongering to state that chinese numbers are underreported due to state cesorship shortage of testing kits and many people not being accepted into hospitals to begin with|0 Yeah the mortality rate will drop as more people are infected because people get infected faster than it takes to kill But it will catch up|0 hugs|1 I think you are onto something here If they really wanted to say it and make it seem convincing they would vary it a little|1 We can beat this The most important things that can be done to limit this outbreak ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITYWash our hands dont touch our faces avoid close contact with others dont visit the elderly if youre sick and if you are very sick and have had or suspect contact with an infected personcall 811 before you go to a clinic for testing 811 in BC I dont know numbers for other jurisdictions but phoning ahead is important|0 Its crazy how many small details Im aware of now that have never crossed my mind before Thanks a million for sharing this Can You go into details on this statement a bit I dont think the West is prepared for an organized lockdown and this idea haunts me|1 IMO Its a completely missed opportunity for Carrie Lam to gain back even a weeny bit of trust In fact shes lost even more But how more broke can one get when theyre already bankrupt|0 I just want to point out that ohio had a dedicated website for the virus before it even had a single case httpscoronavirusohiogovwpsportalgovcovid19httpscoronavirusohiogovwpsportalgovcovid19|1 And did nothing You must not work in healthcare She continued to care for her patients until she deemed it unsafe and removed herself she did everything right We only have SOME information and fewer resources|1 Im concerned for my parents and grandparents Theyre all still alive and healthy except my grandfather who died before I was born If this disease gets widespread they all have a significant chance of death for being over 50 None of them are taking SARS2 seriously either so they wont take any precautions I never get sick Name you worry too much Maybe I do worry too much but Im still concerned about them|0 This is just criminal|0 And why do you think we dont know Could it be the state of the US not having accessible healthcare so people are getting sick and because of wages they cant get tested either Theres a reason this isnt working|0 Totally agree on rationing and item limits People have created a situation that doesnt allow everyone to have minimal necessities|1 Let me guess Something something quid pro quo something something russia Yeah sure senator|1 People say that shit to comfort themselves|0 Youre so terribly wrong Heres the top 10 countries with highest rates of intentional homicide victims per 100000 inhabitants The US is 90 on this list with 53 murders per 100000 inhabitants Beside that youll find the top 10 countries with highest rates of civilian firearms per 100 people The US is 1 with 1205 per 100 people Youll find theres no correlation between number of guns per capita with number of murders per capita However there does seem to be a correlation between antiUS propagandists and a staggering lack of math and stats skillsIntentional homicide victims per 100000 inhabitants El Salvador 618 Jamaica 57 Venezuela 5633US Virgin Islands 4926 Honduras 417 Lesotho 4125 Belize 379 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 3646 South Africa 359Estimate of civilian firearms per 100 persons United States 1205 Falkland Islands 621 Yemen 528 New Caledonia 425 Montenegro 391 Serbia 391 Canada 347 Uruguay 347 Cyprus 34EDIT Canada is the 7th on the list of most firearms per civilian while being 151st on the list of murders per capita Your whole narrative is wrong as proven by this data|0 Thats what my work has said I can do all my work from home but they want me to come in and if one of my kids get Ill then I should still come in My boss is 75 years old and sits on a desk next to me My kids go to a school with 1500 pupils Should I say bye to him now|0 The silver lining in Italys figures is that their day over day infection rate increase has dropped from 25 per day to only 10 todayHopefully thats due to the widespread quarantines in Lombardy then the nation and not due to decreased testingThe sooner we implement widespread quarantines and universal testing the more lives we save Every country everywhere is going to have to do it The longer we wait the more people dont get a respirator and die|1 as per MY understanding of it containment is in the context as to slowing the rate of spread down to pace where current health care providers can care for detect and deal with these cases the overall concern in the aspect of death ratio to infection is due to concern of the necessity and ability for infected to get relative care for said infection which may impart dramatically lower said death ratio Therefore mitigation is when outbreak is imminent and can no longer be slowed to a pace where current health care providers can adequately deal with the surge of patients infected requiring treatment this in turn encapsulates the idea of mitigating the rate of death per infected as an example symptom A is cause of death to 75 of patients symptom B 10 symptom C 15 therefore when preparing for outbreak for mitigation you utilize available resources to provide symptom A sufficient ability to fight infection as to mitigate the best ratio of death with constrained amount of supplies this is objectively what mitigation is how to use what we have to get the best rate of survival this is not to fear monger this is what mitigation is how to get the best ratio of things with what you currently have|0 to suggest all these people are just a hoax made to fit some model is quite laughable how else would they get these people to die at the correct times to match the model Can you really be that dumb The belief is that China is not reporting numbers higher than some artificial metric They arent getting people to die on time they just arent reporting a lot of deaths as caused by coronavirus They are reporting them as pneumonia or other complications|0 Wrong A 29 year oldhttpsnypostcom20200221coronavirustragedychinesedoctorwhopostponedweddingtotreatpatientsdiesofinfection was the youngest|0 Its a bit pointless TBH For one they need to be quarantined anyways If 2700 test and 1000 test are they going to say okay youre free to go No they would still need to be quarantined and retested after the incubation period And for those who test positive what does knowing the result achieve Theres no proven treatment They are all essentially proven mild cases by virtue of them sitting comfortably in their boat instead of needing hospitalization So theres no treatment and no need to move them What is gained by indiscriminate testing then|1 There are high risk areas International airports add risk college campuses with international student populations there are a lot of unknown factors The saturation point of disease vectors is incomplete|0 Its all we can do really haha Lets hope common sense prevails|1 I dont understand how does worrying abou it help you You only lower the effectivity of your immune system|1 Its impossible to tell the extent of immunity without time but the best information we have is from similar coronaviruses which do give a period of immunity to their hostsAnything I hear about reinfection right now I take with a grain of salt That seems to be driven more by sensationalism|1 But that will impact the airline industry and they contribute to certain politicians reelection so|1 No worries I just dont want to spread disinformation either|0 Thanks good point Will do from now on|1 You know you can take a bandana and tie it around your neckface Then come home and wash it No vapor barrier but if you are out and about it is better than no mask And wash your hands 20 seconds minimum|1 Truly|1 Thank you|1 Or how he posted a crappy screen shot instead of fing LINK|0 Well cant argue with that logic|1 I wasnt saying the number was accurate just pointing out where it came from That info from Robert Kock Institut is interesting x200BAgen0434085141062515593328796070317Unknown2405Total4195998 rounding errorConsidering that 1559 year olds only make up 4836httpswwwstatistacomstatistics454349populationbyagegroupgermany of the German population youre probably right about the ICU numbers Also 60 make up 234 of the population so Germany seems to be doing an incredible job keeping the at risk population isolatedIm wondering what this says about the reports from Italy and NW US that healthy younger people are having lots of ICU incidents Hopefully its anecdotes that are sticking out rather than a significant number that will start showing up other places|1 You are fucking stupid It may be 1300 now actually most likely much higher already but in 1 month what will it be 200k And in 6 months 150 million Is that when we should start to act|0 I work at Nordstrom and it is connected to a mall with a lot of people passing through I work with kids which we know are not the most sanitary and my dad is type 2 diabetic I dont want to go to work for our safety|1 Good share at risk of being controversial What are peoples opinions of colloidal silver Im agnostic on it and have never tried it or advocated it but I am curious if it is potentially effective in this caseI feel like becoming a member of the blue man crew would be better than being dead but only if it actually helps|1 Most sensible comment in ages I work at a university in the UK and we are the same 1000 people in a call centre 500 meters away from our building were sent home yesterday but were still planning a graduation ceremony in the middle of April People I work with are taking no precautions and one of them is heading to Poland for the weekend|0 GileadSciencesmy physician colleague has worsening coronavirus COVID19 Gilead reps said they dont have access to the drug trial on weekends Please help Contact me please Healthy 30 yr old male with sudden rapidly progressing resp failure posted with permissionWith sudden 1 day shortness of breath and 103 fever 5 days later not responding to o2 supplementation with o2 sats 80|1 Thats great line up for masks Spread it before you can even protect yourself Best to stay in|1 Ya Im thinking worse case scenario I just ask the tenant to cover costs Hoping it doesnt come to that though|0 I would love to know this answer|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I agree Sunny outdoors with a breeze is very very different from indoors public transit etc Besides he didnt force the beaches open he put the decision in the hands of local governments Im taking the pandemic extremely seriously eg wearing a respirator in public but I think this was the right call|1 Nah this is standard medical stuff They did the same thing during the last Ebola outbreak|0 Not to be that guy but the translation is closer to Royalty wants the minister to die the minister cannot not die To me its a bittersweet phrase of loyalty and sacrifice to the crownI see so many spin opinions talking shit on the Wuhan govt covering up in the earlier weeks First making decisions and freaking people out when information is unclear wont help anyone especially with millions in one city Why wouldnt a natural response be to send medical staff to go fight a newly found dangerous virus Second I have a pretty good gut feeling that if Wuhan quarantined the city early without just cause the airwaves would be flooded with human rights abuse and the usual baizuo callsYour hindsight affords you the luxury of calling their decisions gambling Ive seen enough shit in corporate boardrooms to say this has been responded to in one of the better possible outcomes in what could have beenI fully despise anyone on the sidelines who cry for perfection while real humanity is in the trenches fighting against the darkness Their nation called upon them in the hour of need and more are running toward the crisisYour interpretation and other netizens like you disgusts me|0 Im afraid of dying from the virus and Im only 21 I have Hodgkins lymphoma and am currently receiving chemotherapy The chemo has made my immunity drop to critical condition Additionally the cancer is of the immune system and I had tumors in my lungs Long story short I feel like if I got the virus I would almost certainly die I currently work in a small shirt shop and am wondering if I should take a leave of absence until I finish chemo and my immune system returns or the virus dies out But at the same time flu is just as deadly and is more common and always around so am I just worrying too much about the coronavirus and should continue working|0 I guess maybe itd be better to say that some Americans have the best healthcare in the world But theres then a lot of others who dont|1 Hijacking top comment to post this because idk how else to get this outI dont know if thisll get seen or not given how many comments there are but since a lot of big box stores like Target and Walmart are still open to the public right now I feel the need to try and get the word out Im an employee at Target and please for our safety and yours dont come out to a physical store shopping for random shit like board games and clothing and ten color highlighters because youre bored of being quarantined I work at Target and were all scared of getting this thing but people will not stop showing up to meander for a few hours just to get out of the house Its exposing all of us and all of our at risk customers unnecessarily because most of yall have no way of knowing if you even have the virus or not at this pointWe dont resent anyone at all for shopping when they need things but our stores are not open for entertainment and we feel like the general public and our CEOs arent taking our safety into consideration Brian Cornell refuses to follow CDC guidelines put reasonable limits on the amount of people that can be in a store at once and Im tired of sitting here waiting for his decisions to kill me or my coworkers A lot of us are young but that doesnt mean well survive coronavirus without permanent lung damage and 13 an hour is not enough for me to willingly accept that as a risk of working in a god damn Target We cant wait this out at home like some people can because were needed at work so were begging everyone to please limit unnecessary shopping trips so that we have at least a fighting chance to stay healthy Im in an area that has closed all restaurants bars and theaters and has cancelled all public gatherings for the foreseeable future and people are still not taking things seriously enough to skip bathing suit shopping It is terrifying We are all human just like you Please try to help protect us and tell your friends and family to do the same|1 Well China is still under reporting new cases daily It isnt over there and thats after the major containment efforts they implemented So Im not sure Id call that the final infected for ChinaAlso I strongly suspect that well see more fatalities and critical cases as a percentage of overall cases than we saw with the swine flu Well just have to see I guess but I prefer to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best|1 That is a very important point|1 Yes its government AND media wtf|0 Our schools would have done the same until our governor mandated us to close Sending good thoughts to NY|1 Can we PLEASE get rid of opinion self posts I dont give a shit if your pub is holding a 21st birthday party You think Boris is a dick Congrats not the point of the subFucking sick to death of keyboard warriors deciding they know better than leading virologists just spouting self post after self postCan we just have useful informational links here not everyones opinions|1 Yeah dude Im getting a bit tired of thisEvery time the number of young people in Europe gets mentioned they either drink too much smoke too much the air is bad they ran a marathon even though they already had symptoms which worsened it they ate ibuprofen etcMaybe its time to just accept that a considerate amount of young people also end up in the ICU As long as there still is space And that the politicians and MSM that told you not to worry might have been lying a little bit to you to keep the economy going just that bit longer|0 talked to a nurse in AZIts literally just the flu lol|1 yea they did end up taking his body though for whats it worth the coroner never got to do his jobEdit police and the coroner actually tried to prevent lyndon b johnson and jackie kennedy from taking the body from dallas but apparently the presidents associates just straight strong armed them and left|1 One or two distilleries per state switch to this That could provide so much to people And I bet their business profits increase so there really doesnt seem to be a downside in my opinion|1 Gemma fkin Collins is my friend SS her insta|1 32 million more men as of 2018 Idk know for sure though Although Im sure theres some theories that explain why more men are infected|0 Well the entire country is going on lockdown so theres literally no point flying there I dont think this is evidence of Air Canada caring about anything other than protecting their profits|1 On a very serious note this is not good for mapping any movement This could have been a lot different if it was monitored and taken seriously back in DecemberTime to declare a National Emergency|0 You know what I made this point about a couple weeks ago and got downvoted into oblivion and its FUCKING true|1 Breaking Reddits policies are unjust and crazy Oh wait we know that because the current President of the USs main sub with millions of users has been under quarantine and hidden from the Reddit world for a year and a half|0 Hoping you feel better soon Keep us posted on your condition|1 And can I also just add as someone living in Asia and whose country was heavily hit by SARS back then for everyone to just be a little bit more respectful and sensitive Whilst I understand most people are here out of concern I have observed just bizarre comments treating this outbreak like a sideshow with one guy talking about how he was reading live updates whilst listening to a postapocalyptic video game soundtrack and another and another calling precautionary measures adopted by some countries as creepy Maybe these people are trying to keep things lighthearted or they are trying to relate to the situation in their own way but do bear in mind that there are actual people living in these countries that you see on the news who are at a high risk of being affected by this outbreak|0 Im in Brazil They arent testing enough people many people arent selfreporting There are updates daily but always low numbers 100s|0 I expect him to know whats going on and stand by government entities comprised of knowledgeable experts rather than stating the opposite Not lying would be nice too Unfortunately you can tell trumps lying by watching to see if his mouth moves or he gives nonverbal cues|1 At least most dont leave the home|1 Reported This is clearly a troll post|1 None of these tests have actually been massmanufactured and massdeployed Except for Singapores test which requires a special instrument sold by the same company and is only able to be deployed because Singapore is small and the company can lend the instruments And its not really that fast just simplifies the operation Every country is still doing fairly standard RTPCR testing|1 Oh yeah I have s nice stash of codeine It helps with pain but it does make me high And its very addictive So I only take when I really have to I also have some stash of emergency steroids but read that they also make covid much worse something about its effect on lungs|0 Thats crazy I have been so sick in my life twice that I couldnt walk to the kitchen but I didnt go to the hospital It sure as fuck wasnt mild in any imaginable sense of the word though|0 The key is that if you are not dying or bleeding out you dont need an ambulance If you are concious can walk and talk you call an uber or a friend The time I got to ride an ambulance was because I got hit by a car on my bike Knowing what I do now i didnt hit my head or pass out was walking around afterwards and more pissed off about my damaged bike only pain on my badly scraped leg I would have probably washed it out and driven to the hospital or go to urgent care though they probably would have sent me to the ER|0 Yes your right sure if we let the economy suffer a bit right now to minimize the damage to both the lives lost and damge to the economy|0 Basically its all fucked up like everything else god fucking dammit Im tired of this piece of shit worldOk I need to calm down slow breathing|0 Damage the reading report|0 cancel tickets to greenland download korean for dummies|0 This is the absolutely a Perfect match for this Reddit Please we do want to hear more details|1 Im in north Switzerland Id have to say the atmosphere is the opposite of tense Most people are more upset that carnival is cancelled|0 Masks actually dont do anything Coronavirus isnt transmitted though air Physical contact such as touching your face will spread it Its better not to get masks because hospitals need them the most and people buying them will reduce resources|1 Fastest way off the boat would be to get infected and then fully recover|0 Where the fuck did Canadians think their cases would be coming from Poland Duh Of course the USA You share an open border with the 3rd largest populated country in the world Gimme a break And you had the same opportunity as every other country to stop people from traveling And you could easily have checked people upon entry Gimme a break Everybody just Stop pointing fingers like fucking 8th grade imbeciles And I mean that for everyone People are blaming everyone for everything Its such a human thing to do but its not productive Blaming the Chinese for this is just as unproductive Its a thing Its nature This is a virus Its no different that a hurricane or earthquake You cant stop it although you can slow it down and maybe starve it But I think we are passed that moment of containment You can blame Trump for cutting budgets and say thats the cause You can blame the FDA for having an ego You can blame some heiress in Vietnam for reinfecting her country You can blame the Chinese for wet markets You can blame me for writing this response But virus dont give a fuck Virus dont care Virus be laughing at us Virus gonna be virus Virus gonna kill as many people as possible until we stop blaming and start cooperating So lets focus our energy on social distancing now Lets build some hospitals stat Lets focus on therapeutics and a vaccine Therell be plenty of time to point fingers after the bodies are buried I hope Canada is spared Honestly I do I have really good reasons for it that I will keep to myself But I hope you are spared You took SARS ao the nose So this one should just pass you by I love Canadians I blame you for nothing Except the polar vortex That shit is on you 100 Ohand BoudinI love that shit and cant find it anywhere in the states Thanks a ton eh|0 In cash if at all possible so it doesnt let the apl screw them|0 Sorry but that is not what presumptive positive means I get what it is that you are trying to say and your point is valid but lets stick with facts and definitions during this confusing time|0 Agreed this makes me sad Wilson|0 The angerinduced high blood pressure is going to kill me before the virus ever will|0 NYT is garbage Maybe it used to be respected but those days are long gone The propaganda is coming from them not the other way around|0 So youre admitting you dont even have the loosest grasp of stats then Ok|1 Im tired of doctors who are shocked when someone has pneumonia My wife was sent home Jan 2019 and told she may be suffering from Bronchitis She got really sick and turned out she has pneumonia in both lungs She needed to be hospitalizedFast forward two weeks Im sick and I want a scan to see if I have pneumonia and they are sure I dont have it But I do If I had not insisted they would not have checked2 weeks later I take my teenager in because he is sick Same exact drill they are sure he doesnt have it despite the history And he doesAnd this is supposed to be a good hospital I feel let down by the constant surpriseAntibiotics worked in all three instances If your son is feeling better by tomorrow morning it is bacterial the antibiotics work fast And when he starts feeling better make sure you dont skip doses and make sure he goes to the very end Not doing so risks having it flare back up Good luck|1 Thank you for your words I hope everyone stays safe as well and we all get out of this as soon as possible Everything will be alrighthttpswwwansaitwebimagesimg457x2020311d5fc2e5b705a77ca58d8dfb6c4016a7ejpg children banner in Modugno|1 This fucking Donald Rumsfeld Dick Cheney looking mother fucker is smirking as he talks about mitigation strategies|0 this is the single most ridiculous stat in all of this mess how the F|0 Part of the law around FDA regulations states that the government can grant emergency access to certain products and the CDC can greenlight things related to the public health|1 What the fuck is wrong with you My wife who is Asian gets dirty looks everywhere she goes with a mask And she was followed around the store the other day by a young grungy couple who coughed on her loudly and repeatedly on purposeWe live in Kirkland 3 miles from the epicenter of the biggest US outbreak and people are still in denial and they still act very uncomfortable around anyone with a mask About 1020 give angry looks Now imagine we live back east where people are actually racist|0 This is totally bs Check CNN BBC and Fox websites right now This is all over the homepage Why the fear mongering The media is covering this maybe not to your liking but it is|0 How do you separate comments which are based on racism and comments which are based on the scientifically accepted fact that many ethnicities vary in their expression of diseases and illnesses|0 Ok got it Thanks|1 Eh you might find yourself unable to buy food if youre at the poopy end of the stick such is the way of recessions The rich capitalize on them the poor get poorer|0 Considering the current urgency it might be weeks instead of months Theres been precedent for it in earlier emergency situations lets hope it holds true now as well If development for a cure starts this summer we might be seeing clinical trials by autumn There are a lot of ifs involved though So as always prepare for the worst and hope for the best|1 Thats literally what happens They become weaker so we live side by side with them|0 Agree I am Italian living in Germany we are 10 days behind you but I hope decisions will not be taken when then is too late|1 These fuckers at WHO need to be hanged look how many deaths and they still refuse to acknowledge the situation as a pandemic|0 I also think the fact that the government ignored it then downplayed it now contradicts themselves about it has left people in the state of either dont believe it or like your mate cant believe it|0 Philadelphia held a parade and within 24 hours all 31 hospitals were at max capacity with flu patients So many people died they ran out of room in the graveyards ran out of coffins and then started running out of people to move the bodies out of the city|0 But there are chances that you will recover by yourself if your system is strong enough to fk with it|1 Yeah thats what sucks about Japan A lot of these places are mom and pop clinics that are only open certain hours of the dayhttpswwwtofugucomjapanmedicalsystem and they may not even tell you if you have something serious because it would upset you|0 Lets not call eth stable absurd Absolutely love the project though|1 no difference|0 Lets get some coders to create a nationwide tally website Information can be fetched from individual state websites Please upvote if you think is a good idea|1 My state NY needs to ignore whatever the FDA is telling it and go full steam ahead with setting up their own labs Theres 17 medical schools throughout the state hundreds of hospitals including some of the best in the world tons of top tier research universities We should be in the perfect situation to beat this virus in this state|1 Ah keeping people alive is fascist The more you know|0 Not angry enough You will have short life|1 Lmao thats if I can get tests|1 Thank you for archiving the link so it remains readable ifwhen the original is taken down|1 I think a lot of it is stress and being overworked These doctors arent allowed to go home or leave to see their families Hospitals are noisy stressful and terrible places for getting any restThis makes it harder for them to recover when they get infectedEdit An excellent video describing the situation for doctors nurses httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvXU9FVqwO4TMThey have to wear suits for 6 hours at a time without eating or going to the restroom They develop fullbody rashes through their clothing because of how long they have to wear them Imagine wearing scratchy ski goggles for a week They get blisters from peeled skin everywhere Its pretty brutal Also the first doctors were aware of the outbreak early January before the mortality rate was known They assumed that it was going to be another SARS which added to their stress|0 Exactly Like sure they dont wanna release all Info as to not cause panic But WHEN not if panic hits its almost worse because we have large amounts of uneducated and unprepared people panicking Its a double edge sword Tell people the truth and risk panic withold stuff and people now have trust fear and panic issues|1 Visqueen More like Yassqueen|1 Supposedly warmer temperatures and more direct sun will turn that into 3 days|1 Pretty sure a lot of boomers didnt want thisThen why did they vote for that buffoon If you voted for Boris you did want this Knowingly or unknowingly Play stupid games win stupid prizes|1 No doubt in my mind its that figure in china some estimated 50000 They came to that figure based on crematoriums capacity and those burning 100 for days|0 i really dont understand USA as one of the richest countries ever seems to be failing to test people if they dont do it in time its really going to be hard to recover all of those people man|0 You exposed the same situation Im currently in|0 In the military we had to wear MOPP gear while driving around on an active flightline and then fix and launch aircraftit takes a little training and practice but its by no means difficult for an 18 year old straight out of high school|0 I hope not A big benefit of restricting air travel is keeping people out of crowded airports and planes|0 While its true that wet masks are no longer considered effective surgical masks dont generally get wet through normal use certainly not in 20 minutes Also surgical masks are standard for use with droplet precautions If they didnt work for that purpose why would CDCWHO recommend them They clearly work and suggesting otherwise is absurd|1 I know Its them Im blaming|0 What kind of Economy is it then what is it worth if it does not manage to tackle these health disasters now or in the future We need to evolve to just thinking growth and use also care sustainability and resolve|1 Zzzz Huuuur durrr yuuuur triiigggerrrr Mate youre literally just being driven by your own speculative intuition You are a profound idiot|0 Its complete crap China can airmail from provinces that have been LOCKED DOWN for weeks Airmail can take 7 days which means the package with coronavirus on it IS STILL TRANSMISSIBLE|0 Your wrong They have set up unemployment for all affected Even people effected by schools being closed and not being able to go to work you cant get fired and u get unemployment If u work restraunts that close all get unemployment Dewine is doing his job and putting everyone first|0 We then have an amoral experiment that tells us the true lethality rate|1 Us taxpayers pay the same as most EU states when you factor in state sales taxes and fees Many services we pay fees for in the us are covered by taxes in the EU|0 I work in a restaurant in Portland got laughed at at a work meeting 2 weeks ago when I asked what our plan is going to be for this thing|1 Better off bunking down in your house or going to the country if you live in the city|1 If you dont understand things just ask but dont give people incorrect information from your own assumptions Respirators are used in hospitals Often also called a concentrator Often also called a ventilator So you can breathe To give you Oxygen It can breathe for you Im afraid your mask will not provide you with oxygen should you have holes in your lungs An N95 respirator or FFP23 is a type of RPE Respiratory protective equipment for DIY like spray painting or sanding It does not give you oxygen It protects you from breathing in small particles like dust and paint It also protects you against the virus by filtering the tiny particles so you dont breathe them in It cannot give you oxygen therefore is useless when you already have the virus except for when protecting others from catching itAnother type is an underwater respirator so you can breathe while for example looking at fish Do you require further definitions on types of respirator|1 Go with instincts always as that is why god gave them to us My daughter was hikng New Zealand in Jan and kept getting the feeling to keep moving dont camp here She listened that area flooded overnight trapping people |1 CFRCfr for flu is 01For corona its around atm 6And Who s team leader that visited china stated that chinese retests of old flu monitoring test wont suggest signifficant drop of this number because of cases without symptoms being unnoticed That mild symptoms for corona were from fever to pneumonia httpswwwnytimescom20200304healthcoronaviruschinaaylwardhtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200304healthcoronaviruschinaaylwardhtmlI think its gonna get worse after medical systems fail China used more medical eqiupment in wuhan than most of the developed countries have in total To treat marginal number of population deaths from other diseases being untreated Its gonna be bad |0 Its not just the people here lots of scientists said they are Very concerned and this is much worse than SARS etc So those cases look good lets see how it evolves|0 One doesnt excuse the other Both are terrible imo|0 What thehellthey actually did This is insane to contemplate if this was something like Ebola we would literally all be dead before the nation got its crap together|0 Theres a difference between surgical masks and respirator face masks like N95 FFP2 FFP3 which are capable of filtering out larger particles and should help against droplets from coughssneezesEdit not that much of a difference Even surgical masks do helphttpssmartairfilterscomenblogn95masksurgicalpreventtransmissioncoronavirushttpsjamanetworkcomjournalsjamafullarticle184819httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed19193267|1 A part of me feels they want this to get worse so other countries can feel the pain they are which would mean greater equality in the global market place For a people who have a cultural habit of taking extreme lengths to save face I can see them wanting it to spread to other countries so they suffer too making other countries inept handling of the disease make China look less bad in comparison If other countries have the issues China has now it means Chinese authorities are more competent that they actually are in the eyes of most of their brainwashed population that refuses to do anything about the human rights abuses going on see Muslim populationThis should really be the perfect excuse for a 100 travel ban for anyone holding Chinese passports If they are not letting in experts to help and are continuing to cover up shit which they have been doing since December yeah time for the rest of the world to put them in an economic death grip It would hurt us surely but they would be hurt way more|0 Biden needs to drop out and endorse him|1 I bet you got loads of abuse I got abuse for telling people to prepare for what is happening Seems to be several groups appearing Those that think its all a massive joke and any one with a modicum more intelligence than them is talking out of their arse Those that think its a hoax or a hurr big pharma money making trip Bill Gates something something Those that understand what is happening and taking precautions but not losing their minds Those that think it will all blow over its China and eating bats lets have corona parties You did the right thing you can go back next week and tell them it all escalated rather quickly but you did you best|1 There is a lot of reputation to lose if your paper stirs up panic|0 damn this shit is disturbing af|0 Might explain her perspective for her being personally infected though|0 Came here for this Did not disappoint|1 Possibly someone on the same flight from ChinaEdit nvm I was confused So they dont know where this person got it Yikes|0 We really forget the incredible amount of death and destruction that happened at the beginning of the 20th century|0 People still think going to sweat out a cold at the gym is a good idea Nobody uses wipes or spray and paper towels effectively to kill anything in that setting it is put out as a mental feel good thing Gyms are absolutely disgusting in my experience especially when they have carpeted locker rooms|0 I was just googling this as my wife takes Hydroxchloroquine for lupus Glad you posted I am concerned about availability for her for her lupus if it becomes a goto treatment if the virus progresses to the major population But then again I guess my family has a prophylactic supply if the SHTF|1 My dad who is a boomer saw this coming when it first started and has been following its closely the whole time One of his favorite books is The Stand and he said thats whats happening here My sisters and I were home a few weeks ago and he stocked each one of us up with two bags full of non perishable foods medicine thermometers Now you cant find a thermometer anywhere He said go get any booze you like because that will be next and its happening I didnt take it seriously until I saw what was happening in Italy Not every boomer is an asshole Lets remember that|1 Hes also dumb enough that they could straight up lie to him about the pandemic and hed believe it Mr President it will die out when it gets hot Nothing to worry about|0 Yay for the vegetarians and vegans who have on average much lower blood pressure People on a standard American diet of lots of beef and bacon will probably not have a good time|0 Are you more susceptible to death if you suffer from asthma|0 Take a deep breath Good luck|1 this virus will kill the old save the economic system and limit fertility in young men|0 Nice try You tried it with the Pope and Danial Radcliffe get your ass off the site|0 So like a third of Americans|1 Thats even more wrong than the person youre replying to Antibody immunity wanes over time Thats why you need booster shots for some vaccinations Endemic means that a disease is longterm entrenched in some particular region eg malaria is endemic in SubSaharan Africa|0 There is no point in fear beyond that which serves as motivation to properly prepare It doesnt take panic to prepare properly it takes a little fear and a lot of rational thinking|0 Yesterday I was able to convince my 70something year old mum not to go to London tomorrow Evidently I made a mistake It seems that actually the government wants a whole bunch more people to get sick maybe die and then theyll tell you to stop going to school football matches The reason they dont trust you to stay at home for too long Thats right the government doesnt trust the UK population|0 I believe Canada or at least Ontario is doing the same now anyone going to the hospital who is presumed to have influenza is also being tested for COVID19 to be on the safe side At least according to the government website These cases are also apparently grouped in the under investigation category along with any other potential contacts of travelers from China|1 Healthcare here is a fucking joke I got hit by a car while I was jogging and I GOT STUCK WITH 5000 of the bill after having my hip broken my skull fractured and losing my career I was a professional athlete a runner And I got stuck with part of the bill because the drivers insurance company was maxed out My point is that even if you pay your deductible and pay your co pays for medication and pay your monthly premium fee YOUR INSURANCE WILL RUN OUT Poof gone you spent all their money after they spent all your money So good luck with running to the hospital for absolutely anything and not being in debt for the actual rest of your life|0 Is it safe for me to travel within Europe by air specifically to France What precautions do I need to take if I do travel|1 We successfully contained Nipah virus in the past We also successfully contained Bubonic Plague back in 1994 Our public healthcare system is actually underrated considering epidemics Situation here is better|1 Regardless a mask will remind you not to touch your face It works to increase your odds of staying healthy for that reason alone|1 I dont like this dude one bit but this is a good move|1 Lets hope the number of subs drop just as quickly in the near future|1 It is possible but the experts are saying no as long as it takes several days or weeks to arrive Obviously many packages arrive sooner than that and theres absolutely no reason to assume that the delivery people would not be coughing all over your package right before delivering it to your door Id be more worried about the latter than the contents inside but theyre not impervious eitherId definitely open packages outside and leave the outermost packaging out there somewhere Then maybe just wipe down the actual contents with Lysol wipes or similar before bringing it inside If you really want to be carefulWhatever you do dont believe the dismissive claims that based on what we know about other coronaviruses blah blah blah|0 Its always good to own guns No filthy animal will trespass my yard|1 This means that for sure people are making antibodies right|1 Looks like you all want to talk about it so Ill let it be|0 Zhong added that though the first case of novel coronavirus pneumonia was reported in China its source may not come from the countryWTF what new conspiracy theory is this|0 I believe you can inform the public appropriately without causing fear There will be some panic with initial hoarding and purchasing of supplies perhaps but that would subside because its not there yet Singapore is a pretty good example The government has been transparent It led to a weekend of mass spending and going a little nuts in the grocery stores but then everything was restocked and back to normal Id rather have the panic before its necessary it before there is widespread infection and people stock up than when the shit is really hitting the fan|1 Maybe the end of soviet block was bigger but now we cant say|0 Is there any reports on covid19 causing urticaria Me and my father picked up a weird cold about mid February and both of us broke out in hives within 24 hours of each other We dont live in the same house and neither of us are allergic to anything that we are aware of I had a fever and not much else for about 4 days Dad has had a very mild cough since I realize it is very unlikely it was covid however the person we picked the bug up from is a nurse in an area with a large asian population and the illness wasnt like any cold Ive had before|0 Yes it is associated with Alzheimers but those are also genetic risk factors for immune suppression|1 Also the turks who genozided the armenians pretty recently Dont forget the turksAnd the ottoman empire so pretty much the whole middle east They genozided a shitton of people|1 Well if EVERYONE was tested we would have a lot better idea of COVID19s mortality rate Right now the mortality rate is skewed higher because only people who appear sick are being allowed to take the test in most areas There could be 10s of thousands or 100s of thousands of infected people who are showing very little or no signs at all If that is the case the mortality rate would drop dramatically Wouldnt you agree that it is best to have the most accurate data we can about this bug|0 Ive met guys like this on site before and they are actually made of granite Bet he puts a better shift in than the young lads|1 Viral pneumonia manifests in say 10 of total cases Most nonold and nonsick people dont progress that far Thats good news The bad news is that means we need to multiply by more like factor of 500 not 50 mode of 10100x By that logic we already have 500k cases in US alone We will know this is true IF significantly more than 10 ppl die today or any day in next 10 days nationally With CFR of approx 1 1000 cases implies 10d mortality Therefore if say 50 people die what we measuring is not delta lethality of the disease rather undertesting 23 weeks ago|0 If the test is a CT scan Im not sure it would work that way It could just be that 32 of the time the anatomical differences dont match our current coronavirus models In that case it wont matter how many CTs you have or how many doctors look at it since it is a systematic error|0 httpsoutredditcomt3fkibzeurlhttps3A2F2Fwwwyoutubecom2Fwatch3Fv3DDVau7NDjQw26feature3DyoutubetokenAQAACSRyXu2zta1WyHubQiR6iybQB6bExWg0pLeWTWdbR4HMaSappnameredditcomThis video from this sub that I watched 2 minutes ago made me feel much better|1 Its considered a creole Sort of like English with a mixture of languages in a senseSource am Singaporean|1 Im sure well all become strident environmentalists from now on|1 Haha thanks Ill dump a 50 bottle of purell I got off Amazon on it and enjoy it later Haha|1 Fuck the WHO Get those pussies out of Chinas pocket and do something worthwhile|0 If we want to prevent a massive escalation of this outbreak and not have the healthcare system crushed by tens or hundreds of thousands of ill patients in the very near future we must effectively shutdown the west coast now All public events and meetings must be cancelled all but a few absolutely essential businesses must cease operating and allow those who can work from home to do so All schools and churches should be closed Everyone needs to stay at home for at least two serial intervals roughly 14 days If this is not done now brace yourselves for what is coming|1 Plenty of people cant prepare I cant I dont have any money to pay rent let alone prep If I had money Id drive home where its safer and I have support and friends But I dont Im stuck 1500 miles from my home town|1 Our best bet is to slow transmission down as much as possible hope the weather really does help and maybe well have a vaccine next year|1 Im also in the US Only me and my other friend in many states over are talking about it Im very close to where the CDC is so I dont know if that makes me feel more or less safe I 100 believe our news will be withheld and facts skewed But Im preparing Tomorrow I plan on going in getting a large bag of dog food and large bag of rice I also need more frozen vegetables I think I have enough food to last a month Our biggest issue will be my husband job He will have to work regardless of what happens He is with the government Now that Im actually talking it out I may make my inlaws move in with me and make him stay at their house|1 Damn How does normal sick leave work Dont you get compensated over there I live in Sweden where you normaly get no pay in the firsy day but then 80 and now many get 80 pay from the first dayTbh that sounds like more of a social issue than an issue of testing and epidemiology|0 My guess is the white blood cells from recovering patients contain antibodies for the virus Someone correct me if Im wrong|0 thats interesting local walmart has people in maskswhile upscale places like safeway does not or at least not yet wondering if its a perception thing|1 I agree ucbpiz they are down playing the hype and paranoia as Ive heard them say people are spreading so I completely agree however I think the statistics speak for themselves and I dont consider myself paranoid but rightfully very concerned|1 What other analysis info YouTube channels would you recommend for a comparison|1 Hand sanitizers need to be at least 50 ethanol regardless of whatever else is in it More is better|1 My dad was of the its just a cold nothing to worry about mindset Finally got him to come around And he has promised to stay home 73 COPD diabetes heart problems obesityhed never survive it|1 this is my thing nowpeople want him to drop out and im tornIts pretty obvious he wont be the nom but he will keep bidens feet to the fire and he will discuss these issues and people will get to hear them if he is in Especially since he isnt combative with Joe very much so I dont feel like he hurts himThe downside is I dont think its a great idea for people to go out and vote right now|0 Honestly I didnt know that pansy had a wife Seriously|1 My boyfriend says I keep going on about it The thing is though I get more anxious and worried about the situation the less engagement I get I want to discuss the impending event that will like be the biggest event in our lifetime to make sure weve covered all bases with preparation Ignoring it is freaking me out|0 And The authorities are clearly preparing to test a large number of those 13 billion Otherwise why would they produce the kitsIts like youre trying to miss the relevant details|1 I gave up on Facebook today There was a post in a AHL Group for the minor league team of my NHL team I follow and it was brought up will the home games be cancelled or nofan attendance since were in SoCal RiversideOntario So much Its just the Flu bro and so much yeah but 70 of the cases in china have recovered so really how BAD can it be|0 Why do these people still exist in 2020 I honestly think a lot of people deserve to die from Coronavirus|0 I dont get this who is combating the risk Who is downplaying it The virus has been dominating the news now for months Sorry im just OOTL on this sentiment|0 Because mUh FReEdoMs|1 Its like the CDC is totally resigned to it spreading I really hope theyre investigating all activites flights terminals restaurants etc this person visited|1 Before embarking on a journey of revenge dig TWO graves|0 You guys know how many people sneeze Would be nuts to test them all Unless you come in puking limes and salt we will assume its a common cold|0 No only what people can see feel touch see or hearwith their ears not from someone is definitive sources for me I dont trust links etc|0 I sell doors and windows at Home Depot in the US can confirmPeople just browsing garage door openers for 20 minutes then not buying anything moving on to see what vacuums are stylish right now not buying anything moving onBafflingOn a positive note my coworkers are saying its just the flu man a little less|1 I felt a great disturbance in the force a million voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced|0 wait indoctrinate is ableist|0 West Virginia has fallen F|0 Right but this map Im referring to isnt hosted by the CDC and had previously cleared negative cases as well persist on the map|0 Go on twitter Ask hong kong people They are fighting this with open border because of political correctness But so far their citizen are doing great by themselves|1 But wouldnt you just go off Korea Japan and Singapore Modernized transparent countries that are giving us numbers|1 No way Im missing my orgies|0 Yeah fuck the chief medical officer who is a world expert on dealing with virusesFuck himI thought we said wed had enough of experts in this country|0 Breadfruit and jackfruit are from the same family but breadfruit is more tasty Its widely available fresh canned or frozen in Afro Caribbean shops Plantains are also a good source of carbs|1 Totally and everyone is downplaying it like its nothing but who wants transmitting it to grandma or grandpa or whoever on their conscious Its really amazing the level of apathy I am hearing from people Had a coworker brag yesterday about the sweet deal she got Monday night to go skiing in Austria this coming weekend cant face palm enough|1 IIRC right now there is not kit nor test that give 100 accurate results yet Not in the whole world So well shrugs|1 Well the national emergency should be used for more important things like defeating Huawei|1 They definitely do And garuanteed there are bigger chess moves at play Well maybe find out in 40 years|1 We going to fucking blow the doors off those weak ass numbersUSA will always be number 1|0 a fact wheres the source for this fact most of the claims of younger deaths are from unverified twitter accounts and the like literally anyone can make a twitter and tweet whatever bullshit they want Also should note that deaths at ANY age are 100 possible doesnt mean theyre common but an outlier 35 year old dying will get widely reported vs the 100 80 year olds that will be forgotten gotta get dem clicks|0 Listen bro its only a matter of time I know it sucks but I think most if not all states will have confirmed as long as there are no travel restrictions between states|0 Yep your point definitely still stands|1 Just came in to say there are both corticosteroids antiinflammatory general negative effects and anabolic steroids muscle producing generally positive effectsDont confuse them|0 Are you all freaking out over there yet My kid is in uni over there and refuses to leave before they cancel her classes She has one more week before scheduled break|0 Fuck Pence|0 People are stupid the earlier you declare a pandemic a pandemic the bigger the possibility there is you can avert deaths and containkill off the pandemicThere is no thing as calling a pandemic too early because if you do it correctly it will not become a deathwave sweeping over the globe|0 Same size as the Fl 80140nm The however is the R0 number and casefatilityrate CFR and NOT whether homemade masks are useful|1 Always stay prepared My golden rule DPAP Dont panic always prepare|1 But medical supply Things that help you through quarantine Toilet paper is least of your concern|1 Well I hope you are also removing posts that are trying to blame one political party over another when this has nothing to do with politics or who the current president is Thankyou|1 That is terrible that people are attacking Chinese people and wishing them ill will The issue here is that the West is being inundated with images of markets in China with live animals kept in little filthy cages that are slaughtered for food They are terrible heart breaking images that piss people off My heart goes out to you and your family and the innocent people in China caught up in this illness lets all hope that a cure is found soon|0 My wife is a nurse in a respiratory unit and they are so low on masks that she is only allowed masks if her patients have high fever I wish she could quit for a few monthsSomeone in her county tested positive at a nearby hospital a few days ago I hope they find more masks|1 Theres also never ever been a case where a doctor was wrong about a condition when a patient had already selfdiagnosed This has never happened in the history of mankind because doctors are in fact demigods who can do no wrong And patients are basically like those Epsilons from Brave New World barely functional and nowhere near capable of cogitating on the level of Doctorstm|0 Why should I worry or not worry I see panic from some and total calm from others|0 200 iq Cant stand close to each other if there is no one left to stand next to|0 Its not about blaming travel Its about being able to contact all those who have come into contact with an active COVID case so that those people can self isolate and protect their family and their communities Travel IS a big risk factor here too though|1 Of course there would have been No matter how its spun most people think war is bad Of course probably not a panic as ridiculous as this but then its people on this sub who only have themselves to blame|0 WCG doesnt list COVID19 on the active research page so I dont believe so unless theres some kind of foldinghomeWCG interoperation that Im not aware of|1 I mean the CDC isnt really affected by the president|1 Lasting change has to come from systemic widespread population support Nearly all mitigations already exist and are not implemented for economic reasons For example absent of 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soil except scandinavia The way its been handled Im honestly not surprised information was not given at the right time|1 you mean the Kung Flu|0 Cambodia has literally done better than Japan Japan is a great embarrassment and has brought shame on themselves|1 We have a Quarantine Act yes|1 And yet CDC sayshttpswwwcdcgovflupandemicresources2009h1n1pandemichtmlFew young people had any existing immunity as detected by antibody response to the H1N1pdm09 virus but nearly onethird of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virusIt was so similar that the other strains gave immunity More the point 1918 flu gave immunity to the 2009 fluhttpsjviasmorgcontent8463127|0 33 just in WA 18 cases 6 deathsPlease try to be even the slightest bit responsible here Computing based on only 18 cases at the beginning of discovering an outbreak is not going to give you an accurate mortality rateEspecially since one of the first hotspots is an assisted living facility with the most vulnerable populationThis is very misleadingLook to research papers for CFR case fatality rate to get a better idea of a much more realistic numberThe number has hovered around 2 for a number of weeks It is higher for those with certain comorbidities and it varies with age increasing above 50 peaking at about 14 for 80 and up|1 Brit hereI dont think were in denial at all Anecdotally its all anyone is talking about There has been some minor panic buying stocking up but for the most part people are carrying on as normal and just being more diligent with handwashing We arent losing our collective minds and subscribing to the worst most pessimistic forecasts of how things will progress but that doesnt mean were in denial or being dismissive of the potential seriousnessStiff upper lip and carry on old boy|0 Good Lord The poor people who work on these ships I cant imagine dealing with 2200 cooped up passengers|0 thank you |1 Its a debunked hoaxedit no hoax|0 As someone who rarely never looks at pictures like this what exactly am I looking at Aside from lungs of course|1 It is true however you do not have qurantine 350 meters from one boarder few more meters from another and a lot of people daily migrating from Italy both ways Hope they will be held responsible for lying in some way|1 I guess nature has to fight back somehow|0 I did that Ive won 4 hand sanitizer auctions for over 700 each this toilet paper price I thought would be much moreI used an old account that I dont care if it gets bad reviews I have 3 or 4 days to payIm waiting it out by then theyd have to relist it and hopefully some people wont pay that by then|1 Italy is not doing that yet despite what some newspaper said Everyone who needs a respirator is getting one and they are increasing capacity as needed Of course if the number of people in need of a respirator keep growing at the same rate as some point they wont be able to increase capacity Also we have this kind of problem only in one region Lombardy where we have the most of the cases|1 Im not sure there is evidence There is clear incompetence resulting in obfuscation over and over again whistle blower reporthttpswwwaxioscomcdclabcoronaviruscontaminated6dc9726ddea3423fb5adeb7b1e44c2e2html|0 httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2674012httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2674012 Heres an article on first wave in the summer seems to have protected people from the second more deadly second wave in the winter|1 Very good all you need to do is understand context Never stated it did|1 We keep saying that Each week just gets worse and worse|0 Ive been at this forum for years Believe me i wouldnt promulgate bullshit Especially during a human crisis|0 Cant agree more Already asked for masks from some friends who are in the pharmaceutical sector I just read in the news that the prices of masks surged from 120160 PKR to 1200 PKR in Quetta city near to the Iranin border|1 A friend works in a hospital in England They closed 2 departments due to members of administrative staff testing positive Fine all well and good however before being sent home without being tested or told to self isolate mind you a meeting was held with the administrative staff from those wards telling them they are not to inform anyone of what is going on and if they speak to the press they will be fired|1 I spoke to a friend today who was at first saying Coronavirus is no worse than flu and Italy have gone way too far theyre just using scare tactics When I challenged him and presented him with the facts he essentially admitted he was choosing to be in denial because he couldnt cope with the stress I feel like a lot of people are like this or just plain ignorant I struggle to understand this tho cus whether you choose to believe it or not it IS coming|0 Hope these are travel related Fuck me|0 There arent enough steps being taken We all need to be quarantined Childcare places are still open people are still going to work libraries playgrounds and restaurants are still open Religious folks think God will save them from coronavirus and continue to go into public Not enough is being done to contain this|1 My hospital is being the change we aspire to be Were developing our own fucking assay to circumvent this hindrance of a government That doesnt mean we shouldnt call out the bullshit|0 Are you aware how infectious disease works That those people can still infect like say their parents or grandparents who would be high risk|1 so private corporations have a mandated unknown unlimited liability|0 Honestly is anyone surprised That is exactly what I expected and its why I was sitting calmly at home with my family at the time Shopping was done 2 weeks ago|1 I hope theyre getting ready to quarantine or that town might become a ghost town|1 Thats only because people like you think abortion is good is some sort of fact of science Your opinions arent science and people are allowed to disagree without being antiscience Left wing social justice is not science and its not antiscience when the Catholic church contradicts it Know whats anti science 9000 genders|1 WHO You sure|1 Virus God grant me the neurimidase to bind to the sialic acid receptors I can find the hemagluttin for poking a hole in the cell wall and the ability to mutate rapidly to avoid those pesky Tcells|1 Lol youre welcome Utah Its okay its not like the other 42 tests got used anyway|1 thats alot of human rights violations|0 Italy is fucked Turkey still doesnt have it although in 100 certain it must be here only just not detected yet the authorities are super serious about containing this shit But in the Netherlands my friends tell me basically every case that is discovered are people that went to Italy recently or have family friends that went to Italy Not sure how true it is Read that it has permanent effects like lung scarring and a weakened immune system havent had to properly look into it Fuck man I thought this would be like SARS and it would pass without ever ever being a big threat|0 If the Princess is any example there will be many others with CV Old people stuck on a cramped boat for weeks with shared ventilation on plumbing is a virus wet dream|1 Lads forget it Lets put the entire lockdown operation on hold until Emmy here decides to get off her ass and gets herself back to her parents|0 Thats awesome of them to set a clear and striking example of the correct behavior on TV Some government idiots dont even understand their own policies or perhaps dont careHealth official licks finger moments after warning people during coronavirus press conferencehttpswwwfox2detroitcomnewshealthofficiallicksfingermomentsafterwarningpeopleduringcoronaviruspressconferenceDutch PM shakes hands seconds after telling people not to shake handshttpsmetrocouk20200310dutchpmshakeshandssecondstellingpeoplenotshakehands12375737|1 Doubt X|0 Theyre being shown up for the 6th form debate Weirdos they really are|0 That is not isolation or quarantine|1 And we all died if I recall|0 Northern California too Exposed Persons With the shift from containment to mitigation it is no longer necessary for someone who has been in contact with a person who has COVID19 to quarantine for 14 days This applies to the general public as well as health care workers and first responders However exposed persons should selfmonitor for respiratory symptoms and fever If they develop symptoms they should stay home in order to protect those who are well again for 72 hours after symptoms resolve or 7 days after symptoms began whichever is longerhttpswwwplacercagov6454RecommendCOVID19mitigationhttpswwwplacercagov6454RecommendCOVID19mitigation See number 6|1 Hey hope the zucc donates money to your godfundme if you ever need one bro|1 You cant see next quarter looking bad|0 Thats a bit disingenuous because the virus is definitely not uniformly distributed Unless youre near a cluster 15024 people definitely dont have the virusIts perfectly valid to say that the situation in its entirety is quite concerning but the risk to any given individual is extremely low at the present time|0 I work at an urgent care in Orlando FL where the majority of patients are outofstate or foreign tourists here to visit Disney and the other attractions How the living fuck was MCO Orlando International Airport not one of the first airports to prioritize screening As far as I know MCO is still not doing actual screeningsIm pretty damn sure the first time several of our patients were ever screened for Covid19 was in our patient waiting room We are royally fucked man|1 Good you better not be fucking buying a TV with pandemic money|1 Just like what we do in jan|1 I aced the test They tell me that no one has ever gotten a perfect score on that one Really Nobutthen but theyll say Ohhh ohhh he must be lying like the transcript whichby the wayperfect calldo you see what theyre doing now in Ohio I did that I called him up I says Do whatever you have to Its for the peopleFor the peeeeeople Does that work ever sound weird to you Peeeeepole Peeeeeeephole|0 Yeah thats gonna be a major problem as long as Trump denies the truth and his minions believe every word he says His denials are gonna make this pandemic even worse in the US|0 Same my aunt and uncle are going on a trip regardless of airports being the 1 worst place to be now|0 OK but please remember that symptoms confirmed|1 Glasgow will be a contender if theres no lockdown before the weekend|0 Dont trust the Thai numbers They arent testing properly either They have many cases of viral pneumonia and their numbers look eerily similar to those multiplying in Korea and Italy Really messed up that governments would actively cover up the truth just for short term gain What are they going to do when it blows up like it is in Iran|1 Wear gloves and you can make your own sanitizer too Best of luck to you|1 1 Confirmed case that was cured and was allowed to leave quarantine after having 2 tests of negative 1 test per day|0 Why cant they pray from home though|0 Iposted another similar case 8 people got fired|0 Stop weighing down the fear train with your facts and dates Orange man bad Obvi|0 Yes it obviously is but they are reserved for doctors and nurses If they get sick we have a problem|0 Im up in WA but I think across the country were going to be quickly seeing the same issues everywhere of limitedscarce medical supplies especially PPE Medical services are getting prepped to the best of their ability Take that as you will|1 America is screwed isnt it Cant get a doctors note cant take sick leaveJust move to Australia guys doctors are free and minimum wage is 20 an hour|1 Ya know what when someone ignores something that is painfully obvious then I do take a little joy watching when it blows up in their faces Watching a Repub senator get upset at the incompetence of the head of Homeland Security made me smile a bit That senator has had multiple chances to stop the appointment of incompetent leaders of Federal agencies but did nothing|0 Thank you This sub is very helpful|1 We deserve this Every plague that God gives us we deserve it Money over people every fucking time|1 Why are we worried who pays for it Its a matter of life and death for some people|0 The incubation period is on average 5 days We did expect to see way way more cases around the world so far So far almost all transmissions worldwide have been obvious transmissions Someones spouse someones driver or maid child or they attended a meeting with an infected person etc There have been barely any transmissions which came out of nowhere where we cant identify how the person got infected This is very very good news The even better news is how many people SHOULD have been obvious transmissions but werent This is the real key to determining how infectious it is In some cases the infected met up with people were around their family or went to other peoples homes etc and all of those people tested negative for the virus If you had close contact with 50 people and 10 of them got infected that is a highly contagious virus If none of them got infected which is mostly what we are seeing with most cases its not a highly contagious virus It doesnt have to be super contagious to spread fast however among a naive population as we have seen with Wuhan the amount of cases rocketed upwards into the tens of thousands likely in a matter of weeks before the lockdown That is the biggest fear Clusters of the virus popping up every single winter infecting tens of thousands before we even know what to do Sure it might be relatively easily containable past that point but due to the long incubation period it could hit that point before youre even aware of it|0 There are still a fair few about Toolstation near me has over 100 FFP2 masks in stock|1 Its actually 50 fatality rate since you dont count the confirmed cases but only recovereddead cases|0 Yeah thats the main issue with this one Asymptomatic transmission is a real thing and seems to be how this thing has spread so widely so quicklyI honestly think its stupid that theyre even doing fever checkpoints in certain countries sure theyll catch the symptomatic cases but it doesnt really stop anything from happening|1 AgreedThe schools being kept open is a big issue There are arguments in favour of having schools remain open as childcare for essential workers or for students about to sit important national exams Theres no rational argument for insisting every child keep attending school under threat of fines Unless its we want every child to be infected because theyll probably get it mildly and something something herd immunity But of course they realise how monstrous it would look to say that outright|0 Its illegal to turn people away from the ER in America based on their ability to pay They must be examined and treated as necessary|0 We charge insane amounts for education Its not manditory There are other paths to success Its high price is due to the situation with loans and students dumb enough to get into debt for stupid degreesAs far as health care if you can afford it its the best in the world And we dont deny care to dying children because we figure they are a lost cause like with socialized health careAs far as the EU goes all you guys are talk You guys dont have or need a military because of my country Without us Russia would gobble you guys up whenever they felt like it Militarily and economically you guys dont compete with us or with China It annoying hearing you guys complain about us when the EU wouldnt be able to exist with the US having its back|1 Curious too here|1 Nice Thank you so much for helping out|1 Thanks for sharing this|1 Multiple scientists have also been very reassuring Theres hardly a consensus But this sub reddit in general being a little on the fearful side of things Im not surprised the debate has been a little onesided so farIf my thoughts are wishful thinking yours are pessimistic Time will tell and as always probably fall a little in betweenI say we talk again in three months June 12th Im setting a reminder on my phone I will gladly admit if my prediction was overly optimistic and Ill be glad to catch up regardless see how we feel about the whole situation thenIn the meantime stay cautious stay safe for you and others All the best and thanks for the discussion See you on june 12th |1 I can look for the source in rCOVID19 subreddit but a stuffy showed a much lower percentage of infected we smokers than the general population something like 12 infected we smokers vs 50 smokers in the general population2 theories smokers have some form of protection from infection or patients lie about their smoking historyThat said those reported smokers tended to have more severe disease albeit it was a relatively small sample size|0 I am not a nurse But I have nurse friends whove told me that their hospital has hardly said a thing about coronavirus Therefore they arent even slightly worried And they just keep talking about how its just the flu Its kind of scary to see how casual and laid back they are about this thing Its strange to read about nurses on the internet who are concerned But then personally know nurses who arent in the slightest taking this seriously|0 We provide accurate and curated medical information as well as numbers|1 5 of people who were diagnosed There may be thousands of people infected with mild to no symptoms left undiagnosed which could decrease that number by alot|0 Like I said Let those business take care of it Remember bootstraps|1 What no fuckin ziti|0 Haha|1 im sure there are people like that but who knows if things really get bad apartment buildings may have to be sealed shut like in China Its better to have the peace of mind that you are sorted for a while|1 This is just xenophobic I have a friend in the studio who is from the Czech Republic I know he hasnt been home in a little while but I should be scared of interaction with him incase theres a confirmed case in his homelandYeah no thanks This is a time for solidarity not pettiness|1 Can you please What was the persons age Lowest reported age in the world is 36|0 Only that symptoms reappearedThat isnt even true in all cases A decent amount of the reinfections tested positive at follow up appointments but they never showed symptoms after discharge|1 could probably add SK imports to that as well sucks to be me i am running low on gochujang and tteokbokki supplies in general|0 But they could be praying harder|1 Original songhttpsyoutube2fA5MVqzJVct45While Siena sleeps everything is silent and the moon lights up the TowerFeel in the dark alone in peace subdued Fonte GaiaThat sings a song of love and passion Verbena is born in the main squarelong live our Siena long live our Sienaon the main aquare verbena is bornlong live our Siena the most beautiful of the cities|1 I agree im from India and trust me if this virus originated from here there would be millions of cases already and a lot would have died already This country simply dont have enough medical power to do something as the virus spreads Indians are gathering masks so all the sellers together decide to increase the price to abnormal rates and are having abnormal profit They all see money even in someones death they see money|1 Unless theyre one of the 1 in 12 children in the US who have asthma Not every 15 year old is perfectly healthy with no preexisting conditions|1 God that bald interrupting congressman was pissing me off|0 They have cute little Tabasco and ketchups in them|1 If youd like a depressionover a cold|1 So I bought about 200 worth of supplies meds and food that we use at our household anyways Bought paper plates and stuff like that too because if I get sick I am not doing dishes Regardless theyll get used anyways I bought stuff we normally eat as far as canned foods go and things with a long shelf life We already had plenty of food So Im putting this in a box under my bed So we dont eat it or use it before we need it I live in the Midwest of the US I felt a little crazy at the store but at least now I know that 1wont have to go in publicbusy places if there is an outbreak in my area 2dont have to worry if there is a shortage of supplies and 3if I get sick Ill still have supplies and wont spread my germs|0 I love them Anything that allows me to not interact with the types of people that work at McDonalds is a good thing|1 My sister and brother keep saying its too much I try to tell them theyre not drs or experts I remind them China shut down and its a fucking dictatorship But they still blame the US media As if China gave a shit what the US media thinks|0 If anything maybe well change for the better more demand for public funding and resourcing|1 the West will learn a tough lesson on this|0 Best analogy ever|1 True|1 Yes and even if the average illness lasted a month that would mean at worst 5 ofall truckers would have it at once x200BEssential jobs will keep running that includes trucking and logistics I am understanding it just fucking fine youre over reacting drastrically|0 I dont think anyone should want to come to the US We are not testing at any rate and its probably going to be our number one export soon|1 You bastard you got silverWhen I said it I got downvoted|0 No thats not what it means Read the comments|0 Next month you probably shouldnt come All schools and universities will probably shut down Some regions of Portugal are already in quarantineIn a month things only will be getting worse with what I expect a quite high number of unconfirmed cases because 29 seems way too little|0 Pfft Im in Seattle There are confirmed cases within 5 blocks of me What do I win|1 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Yes and also the fact that the Cold months on the south hemisphere are getting closer may June and July can be quite chilling in Sao Paulo but also in other areas of Brasil and south America so once again the coronavirus scaring us with its perfect timing after smashing over China in theirs new year and europa during Carnival celebrations|1 Its like a drastic overestimate which people from the WHO have pointed outA huge portion of mild cases never got tested Especially in Hubei When looking at the diamond princess 36 people out of 700 people are in severe condition When looking at the other Chinese provinces a figure of around 510 is most often found in terms of seriouscritical cases Hubei is the single province with by far the highest severity rate and this is almost definitely just due to them not accepting mild patients as much|1 And its this type of mindset thats going to make the spread worse|0 Exactly It will be like FDR hide it for as long as possible to preserve the image of power|1 WI Today in Walmart I overheard a huddle of employees having a lengthy discussion about the toilet paper panic But hey they dont necessary deliver toilet paper in a quarantine situation Yeah food sure Theyll hand out MREs or whatever else they have on hand Water well thats probably covered Maybe theyll toss some paper towels in there But toilet paper Thats a luxury Sweet soft toilet paper|1 And it also wont cost the insurance company any money if they die on the street|0 The government does some things very very well when not cut off at the knees by people like Trump|1 Its a possible scenario until clear contradictions are found Those who think its just a flu bro didnt believe COVID19 was a thing too|0 And letting them back on land and sending them into self quarantine will risk a 100 times as many I know you guys are trying to race us Germans in most explosive growthof corona cases but when you have confirmed cases in a perfect quarantine letting them out is just beyond retarded|0 It was a no here in Canada because I dont have recent travel history despite documented community spread in my area They said they would test but CDC Canada wont let them I think its because they know its everywhere the cat is out of the bag and now its just panic mitigation Dont test mild cases let them go home and recover thinking its the common cold or flu and conserve resources for the critical cases as they begin rolling in Thats my guess anyway The more they test the more panic is going to spread When over 80 of those positive cases will be mild testing everyone will just spread panic and not actually help anyone if containment isnt an option anymore|0 Thank you for your help|1 hey guys we need to find a solution to prevent the people to panic how bout we tell them we are not sure what constitute a pandemic lets say our criteria changed and we are not sure what actually IS a pandemic yes that will hold them for another week or so good idea|1 Im sorry ebmx My wife and I are very quiet when we use AirBnB especially in flats or apts I have become close friends with many AirBNB neighbors all around the world I understand that people live near the units and do not want to disrupt their lives by being the common tourist Hotels are great but often 24X the cost of most AirBnBs|1 Honestly with the estimation of a few years of immunity minimum after exposure due to a slow mutation rate that sounds like a better idea than being scared of catching it|1 Wow NYC is next|1 Very cool I only wish theyd done it earlier in the day so us Europeans could enjoy the show too|1 1 Pediatrics and NICU2 Labor and Delivery 3 Patients who meet criteria to recover Very very sad to say but this is a fact This is your 1864 population who have a fighting chance You on dialysis dementia mechanical ventilation etc Not at the front of the line|0 What an inane retort People with the lowest wages need it the mostUsing your logic people drowning in water dont need air because they dont have much to begin with|0 Its been proven in every crisis even in the Fyre Festival they came back to support the ones who gave their all|1 I agree Theres a lot of victims in China right now Blame CCP|0 Oh hey my dad does work that takes him there all the time And he has weak lungs from a previous brush with pneumonia And seems to think taking measures to protect his own health is emasculating or some shit Wonderful Maybe if I point out hed put my mom at risk if he brought this home hell make some efforts to protect himself|0 I shorted the SP 500 during that first week of free fall Im not happy this is occurring but theres no sense going down with the ship|0 Many friends and family said I was crazy two weeks ago for stockpiling 3 weeks supply I thought it was to avoid getting sick but now that my whole family has minor symptoms that line up just from going to the library and a local outdoor garden last week were voluntarily in for two weeks or however long it takes to get back to normal Dont know if this is novel coronavirus but at the same time dont know if it isnt either Better safe than irresponsible and sorry Turns out the stockpile will keep us fed and supplied during this time I work from home and we homeschool so other than having cabin fever we should be fine in here for even 3 weeks if needed|0 I never said I wasnt interested in data I too have been doing research and Dr John Campbell who has a very reputable resums and FB daily update mentioned reinfection Perhaps he was wrong I have been cross referencing so many articles and sources it is hard to keep things straight And what post am I missing where you explained how contagious it is And while you contended it doesnt mimic flu how is fever cough etc as I said NOT flu like Not ever symptom is but many are esp initial ones|0 People are full of shit|0 This is the worlds general approach summed up in one example Really really sad I would call back and explain that you may have been exposed and how In their defense they are probably getting hundreds if not thousands of calls from concerned citizens with far less chance of exposure but explaining to them how you may have been exposed may helpPS I think you are totally warranted in your concern|0 Fully agree All saying China lied as if that makes the lack of response in the west totally ok Its not Stop focusing on China and look at whats going to happen around you|1 Thx|1 He has to try to make sure Mondays losses dont wipe out Sundays gains and reach 20|1 Thank you for the request comradefsunole380 has not said the Nword yet|1 Why does the nature of what you do require you to stay awake for long periods or do you just really like coffee|1 A whole free internet|1 Will be worse than 2 Spaniards smoke like chimneys|0 I find it funny that people are concerned about fast food when they should also look at pizza delivery I work as a shift lead at a pizza delivery restaurant and I promise you the guys and girls that deliver your pizza are working everyday hopeful that they can make enough in tips to cover their bills for the day in my area They cannot afford to miss work if they get sick If the restaurants shut down my people will loose everything as will I None of us want to contract coronavirus an end up spreading it to our customers That said I think we should close It is a big risk to continue delivery and one of us get sick I have a family that I dont want to take this home to Most of my drivers have families with elderly parents living with them We all are in this together and we all need to do our part to keep from spreading this|0 Thanks for the credit Kudos to you take my upvote|1 Please even a small little town like Italy was able to made like 25000 tests do we really need to talk about this situation I understand that managing the media is a priority expecially during elections but come on really|1 Your comment history is literally just you spreading false information lmao|1 You are right Just imagine what could happen if people were allowed to say stuff that makes sense The horror|0 Dude I can see you dont like regulations but the thing is we have no idea if the vaccine effective or safe without testing as per regulations Releasing what they have now into the wild can easily make it worse|1 For every 1000 people we CT we give one of them cancer Its not a risk free test|0 If the CNN article was correct the cruise did not stop in mainland china but rather a hongkong person whose been to mainland china for a couple of hours entered the cruise from Tokyo and was the carrier in there It was 11 days from symptoms until he sought medical help|1 LOL No sorry I shouldnt laugh But LOLIf youre white collar working for medium to large companies you usually get some leave sometimes sick and annual leave are combinedMost blue collar workers that are paid by the hour do not get sick pay or leave unless theyre unionizedHence many sick people will come to work cause they cant afford to take time off Especially the food service workers|0 You can tell your friends and family they are fucking stupid for traveling|0 Lol rip commie corbyn|1 Those are NOT regular Lysol wipes on that list Make sure you check the product name exactly|1 This is unfortunately in my neighborhood Ugh|0 Just be careful about local burial laws and how hard your local government might try to enforce them|1 You mean they just took stuff that he legally bought with his own money Without any legal procedures I dont support hoarding but this is exactly what was happening in Russia after communist revolution Redistribution of resources by force I never expected that to happen in a free capitalist country|1 found it Swine Flu I missed per usu|0 Totally agree I work in a medical institute and even here many young undergrad medicalbio related students are like I dont care shit I am gonna have spring break to WA CA or someplace else I didnt see the US government do its duty to evoke peoples attention From other posts I read currently they can only test tens of samples a day Is that a joke China can handle 10k samples a day Russia can handle 2kweek USA which is undoubtfully NO1 country in the world can only do tens Of course when the government cant even know the truth how can people be aware of their situation|1 Give the name of the company to reddit and let social justice happen|1 I believe the parent comment was being sarcastic|0 Everybody with a brain understands what youre trying to say and you dont need to say sorry Im so sorry youre going through this and I hope you get better soon|1 Yeah thats the way I see this virus playing out I dont think its going to be apocalyptic like people claim but the problem is that its very infectious and can hospitalize a good chunk of the population I dont think that many are going to die because the virus is turboEbola which it most definitely is not but rather just because they wont be able to get the resources necessary|0 H2H transmission in the USA will not show for quite some time as most people would assume they have the flu rather than Coronavirus The only hope is to track any and all persons known to have had contact with infected patients|0 Used to be a manager at Dollar Tree I walked out because Im better than that but 50 of our customers were all geriatric They were my favorite because they were always so nice to me and very polite to all the workers I loved helping them|1 Thats surprisingly cheap I dont travel to China for work but i do travel to other parts of Asia a few times a year for work and a once a yearevery couple of years trip to Japan private travel If that deal expands to other parts of Asia I might travel in a little more style for my personal trips|1 But I am sure peer reviewers will acknowledge her accomplishments very much Unless they formally ban her from applying for federal funding I dont think that will happen she should be fine|0 Me too I am going on a flight in a couple weeks and I dread the reaction Im going to get wearing my mask People are not nice and while I certainly dont let it stop me it does get frustrating and tiring|0 Whats the situation like in Africa They seems to have suspiciously few cases and Im guessing its because of a lack of testing So how bad do you think the situation is there really|0 You gotta be really careful with any type of disinfectant I sprayed lysol my doorknob yesterday and now the paint is peeling YIKES|1 Remember videos of people fainting in the streets try to google anything more recent than January on this topic The signal went dead|0 Are you having a low risk pregnancy so far A birthing place would be safer as far as exposure Im delivering at a hospital exclusively for pregnancy and female reproductive issues so Im hoping that when I deliver Ill be less at risk because of this|0 And we are not doing anything about it Thats the sad and scary part|0 I read Liberty is online now|1 theyre not exactly used to thinking of the needs of others over their own interests is what this guy is saying|1 No it says what happens if its left unchecked and its not left unchecked|0 Haunting Everyone who is worried about panic needs to read this and ask themselves if this is what they would trade for a false sense of security|0 These should be standard issue for taking care of an elder|1 There is not yet a vaccine or treatment for the illnessand unlike influenza most people do not have any immunity to it Unlike measles itdoesnt spread through the airIt can spread persontoperson through droplets in coughs or sneezes or by touching a contaminated surface and then touching ones eyes noseor mouth thats not correct aerosol transmission has been confirmed by the world health organizationit contradicts what they say in the next sentence|0 I mean is it possible that they could delay the olympics by months or even a year|0 I agree that their bioweapons research privileges should be taken away but youre dreaming if you think the US isnt folds worse than the ccp with international relations and attacks Im also positive youre going to see how little control so many countries ESPECIALLY the US have over healthcare and their citizens in the coming months If youre in an overpopulated city with high poverty and shit health infrastructure like most of south central US the cities surrounding Hubei will look like a dream|1 I live in Idaho the spread has been slow in Thailand and they have good hospitals you might go there|1 Agreed|1 Im not sure I dont think Im going to test either one to see|0 This is supposed to be the sub where we agreed we would post academic studies to answer questions|1 httpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdfhttpswwwimperialacukmediaimperialcollegemedicinesphidegidafellowshipsImperialCollegeCOVID19NPImodelling16032020pdfIf we do nothing 510000 will die from COVID19The government think they can get the death toll below 100000|0 Its been out since last week Ive bought a box on amazon and it was sent from Sams Club Its possible the suppliers are putting big box stores first|1 Hundreds THOUSANDS McDonalds and fast food restaurants in general are CESPOOLS Companies need to very much start valuing their workers as theyre what make their companies run and stay running|1 Basically you will need two layers and you sandwich the filter in between I made a sort of sleeve that opens on the inside and for simplicity I dont use any velcro or gadgety things to close the pocketMeasure your face from you nose to your chin My measurement is about 10 cm so I need my mask to be around 1415 cm in height nose to chin and around 15 19 cm in length cheekbone to cheekboneTry watching these videos and choose your favourite pattern There are several types you can make some more complicated than others Sorry that none of these videos are in EnglishhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvS6n9J3XfPPchttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvS6n9J3XfPPchttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNE3zfvHfJnshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNE3zfvHfJnshttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvwZ5cVokushttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvwZ5cVokushttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvAEbe747iDYYhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvAEbe747iDYYSlightly more complicated pattern httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFxaQkbMWLcMhttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvFxaQkbMWLcMAlso just a side note I dont really like inserting the elastic in the way this videohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvNE3zfvHfJns does because over time it pulls on the ear pulls on the fabric of the mask and the mask becomes looser in a few hours I tried sewing the elastic directly on the fabric and while it didnt make the masks fit looser over time it still pulled on my ears Remember that you can always customise these designs and be sure to add a nose wireEdit If your mask is too small it will move around when you talk|1 Thats interesting thank you Im not totally sure what to make of it just yet because we need a little more context wheres the line between quarantineobservation and hospitalization And has it shifted by geography or timeBut at a minimum this reaffirms for me that the messaging that downplays the severity on nonelderly adults is extremely dangerous|0 Hes not wrong in that coronavirus is a common cold Dont get COVID19 confused with coronavirus Coronavirus has always existed COVID19 is the new disease|1 Interesting analogy but it cannot replicate without using dna|1 as long as we compare apples to apples the standard of everything is much higher in America than in the UK America is much more generous immigration wise to people coming from the thirdworld but remove them from the averages and compare people within racial boundaries and the UK basically sucks at everything Every race does worse in the UK|0 Maybe you frequent worse sources of information than I do Try reading things instead of browsing memes and jornalists complaining about racism against asiansHow is that relevant|0 I 100 agree My point was to point out that everyone should be prepared|1 I am all for social distancing I just disagree with school closures and forced business closures I dont think In the history of the world there has ever been this type of stoppage of Economic activity We are in uncharted waters and I honestly dont know if its justified They wanted to push to a point to get criticized for overreaction and I am there Hope this all works out|0 No that is the Case Fatality Rate CFR the mortality rate is independent of this|0 Why He bad Just curious|0 Fear mongering helps no one|0 Make some homemade chicken soup and freeze it If you get sick you wont want to cook|0 Thanks for doing this very helpful|1 Youre a dumbass|0 And this is great Thanks for the info|1 Maybe Im just too sceptical but lets see what happens over the next 612 months|0 FFS this is what Thailand has been saying all this time|0 Just watched a video about the 1918 flu they would block access to their towns and pay militia members to guard the small rural cities but ultimately the virus came in Via the Milkman and the postman|0 Kids will DEFINITELY be posting this in a decade as a TIL about The Great Coronavirus Pandemic|1 The WHO said that most of the South American countries had no way of testing for coronavirus until a couple of days ago Theres a good possibility that people are getting diagnosed with Denguewhen it could be Coronavirus I guess they know in the coming days and weeks when they start testing people|1 aids is hardly comparable tho lol you dont just get that|1 Even if I accept that glib response as factual youre apparently totally onboard with the way the American healthcare system operates|1 No Because the ban is on anyone having been in Europe in the last 14 days So people transfering through will be refused entry to the US|0 Its already here in Georgia We are woefully unprepared for this|0 I do agree it is fairly reasonable based on what we know|1 Nothing shows up the faulty logic of the book quite like a plague where your survival depends on whether your neighbours can afford to get tested or stay home|1 I have never had pnumonia but a couple years ago around xmas time I got a brutal chest coldchest infection I was miserable and my throat hurt SO bad I would wake up multiple times a night literally gasping for air and I would have to sit up and cough out a bunch of yellow phlegm so I could breathe again This lasted for about a weekIs that what pneumonia is like|0 It really does seem like I died and went to hell or something I cant tell if its just me or what but it feels like the world turned upside down|1 Ngl I read that whole fucking thing with no punctuation holding my breath hoping I got to the end of the paragraph before passing out from not breathing Im not sure if you know how to use a comma for a pause but I wish you would learn thank you|1 If you cant find any masks then you can make some Following masks were designed by scientists Very easy Here are several sites about DIY maskshttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3373043httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3373043httpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3050689howmakeyourownmaskhongkongscientistshttpswwwscmpcomnewshongkonghealthenvironmentarticle3050689howmakeyourownmaskhongkongscientists|1 I wish I could put my 70 year old parents in a bubble too Its scary for the elderly Im trying to make them go to PR to their house out there since so far PR is clean|1 This is heartbreaking|0 You have sick leave in Canada Go on medical ei EMployment insurance will Pay 55 of pat for up to 15 weeksCmon CBC you know Canadian has Ei benefits Give them options and stop creating more fear|0 037 29Thats a huge confidence interval I dont think we can really predict CFR that well as of yetDP CFR is 08 so far Hopefully that remains constant and not many more DP cases die|1 Most definitely the latter You under estimate the potential ruin of a nation under mass panic|0 Easy Cellphone dataJust ask the cellphone companies to collaborate|1 Me Nah|0 I could barely watch that dumb shit|0 Oh also people are prepared more for other disasters like hurricanes snowstorms job loss divorce|0 Thats the problem In america quarantining will not work without legal and financial protections We dont even take days of when were sick and dying as it is because of moneyif were not even sick youre going to have a hard time forcing people to destroy their lives|0 I accept these sorts of numbers from the Chinese but not the total infected or dead|0 Not many till two weeks ago if you look at weekly flu reports the actual flu virus test results and flu like illness count were highly correlated but that changed in the last two weeks|0 I have my doubts this will work either but these are Canadian researchers|0 There are 69000 critical care adult beds in the US My question is whether the ratio in the post includes PICUNICU beds or is it calculated on adult beds only|1 Yeah but when they do get back up to speed theyre probably going to basically try to make up for it The world generates at least 40 billion tons of emissions per year sooo Just 39900000000 left|1 At Trumps age range the fatality rate in China was 8 That was in an area where most of the men smoke and most of the women do not being a lung infection that had a huge effect on mortality Without that risk factor it was around 3 and with it around 13Trumps obesity is a risk factor That puts him around the 13 range If hes on as many amphetamines as he often appears thats a second compounding risk factor and could put him well over 20 He would get good care though which would increase his chance of survivalPoliticians are one of the highest risk factor categories for infection Put the odds that he kicks the bucket before November at 25|1 Even worse its from March 2 and the March 12 is estimatedI dont know and Im super frustrated why they are not open about it|0 It only lasts weeks during a hurricane because the upstream supplier isnt hurling product out the door at every retailer in the US at the same time Area wide disasters are different then nationwidecontinent wide runs on product no matter how stupid it is|0 The fact that most sporting events have taken matters into their own hands and cancelled anyway The unpopular measure of cancelling sport is no longer needed Also the data suggeated that people would watch sport in the pub where corona is more contagious is no longer warranted Now major sport has all but shut down the government can prevent other mass events with impunity|0 if my computer help find something usefull would i be noticed|1 Shoot the virus to death|0 Im feeling the same gratitude Prepping for the last 6 weeks made it so we could lock down before everyone else Im in a US hot spot so Im thankful to have not been in the post apocalyptic mess that was Costco this week|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Cant find the link right now but theres a study showing that economic downturns have a paradoxical effect on suicide people who lose their jobs have a huge increase in suicide risk but those who do not move from employed to unemployed during the downturn experience a small decrease in suicide risk Because most people dont lose their jobs the overall effect is a small populationwide decrease in suicide although those individuals who lose jobs face catastrophe|0 I was only 20 on 911 and Im from just outside NYC I truly felt that life would never be normal again But it was It was different in many ways but it went back to normal This will too|1 This is what happens when the government doesnt act hard or fast enough because they dont want to panic people When they dont test everyone and just say stay inside and vicariously numbers seem lower When media and politicians perpetuate the old people at risk only myth When information regarding what happens to people of ALL AGES if it crosses the blood brain barrier This is what dullard selfish inward looking twats do Im so enraged|0 Lol this place is one of the worst for misinformation there is an overwhelming majority who spreads stupid unfounded claims and theories here generally they get massive support|0 It means if the delivery driver is asymptomatic and breathing out the virus youre not exposing yourself to breathing in the droplets or aerosol that they are breathing outA lot of deliveries dont require signatures either Ive found Amazon Tesco and Sainsburys dont need them especially if you give a nod through the window that youve seen themAlso the driver isnt getting exposed to anyone in the house who may be breathing the virus out into the air|1 This is honestly amazing Youre very talented|1 Are you talking about the guy in Miami who had shitty insurance and paid 1400 for a flu test|0 Its always the damn bats isnt it|0 Now that this is happening outside of China we can get true accounts of patient journeysVery worrying indeed|1 So many people jumping on the Google bad train in here|0 Theyre there to make roast pig to feed all the starving citizens because CCP will provide for all How glorious Nothing to see here comrade|1 Turns out diversity is a weakness rather than a strength In 2007 the Harvard professor Robert Putnam published a paperhttponlinelibrarywileycomdoi101111j14679477200700176xabstract that appeared to challenge the benefits of living in a racially diverse society Putnams study which used a large nationally representative sample of nearly 30000 Americans found that people living in more diverse areas reported lower levels of trust in their neighbors They also reported less interest in voting volunteering and giving to charity In other words greater diversity seemed to be linked to both feelings and behaviors that threaten a sense of community The finding was alarming to many people including Putnam himself because the US continues to grow in racial and ethnic diversity with each passing decade|1 Rats also helped to spread it was my understandingThe natural reservoir effect is why we eliminated the pox but will never eliminate the plague theres still a few cases every year or many other pathogens among these some classed under preventable diseases and why antivaxxers are so dangerous httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiNaturalreservoirAlso why many countries vaccinate the wild animals against rabies by using bait food laced with vaccineIm not a doctor|0 Same at our office Plus cut back on cold and flu|0 I am sad your username is not u5DCheesemaster|0 Never let a crisis go to waste|1 More than just the Flu with Hulu|0 It means they may have future health complications as a result of having Covid19 even if they have recoveredAn example is having poor blood flow to your feet as a result of having diabetes|0 I agree with this need and Im in the US The US content is drowning out posts about other countries|1 They also have four times the beds that we do in the US Higher than that compared to other countries like UK|1 Agree|1 Thank you and your friend so much this is very insightful and I think a much needed wake up call to everyone who is obsessing over the numbers and statistics whilst forgetting that these are real people real lives and real deaths that had such an unfortunate situation unfairly dropped upon them Glad to hear people are looking out for eachother other out there a true example of the universal human spirit|1 You can do it Your the greatest country on earth |1 Damned right those hospitals are further and further from Tokyo|0 Except youre going to look really fucking stupid when new deliveries come to stores as planned I know one of the managers at my local grocery chain they said almost every out of stock item will have trucks coming as previously planned this week They just dont have the ability to speed up the schedule|0 Definitely possible Designing medical electronics and supplies in this case is extremely complicated and regulated Companies are not allowed to just sweep quality and sterility under the rug unless there was a order to do so|1 Are you and your friends freelance or Disney cast members|1 i would gladly give up my food for the kids around me but all of the adults in this neighborhood are horrible people so idc about them ill starve to death before i let the 6 year old next door starve but her parents are trash monsters that only make the world worse so i dont care about them its a matter of perspective|0 The deadlier strain runs out of hosts as the less deadly strain overtakes it and the hosts humans develop immunity to both strains through infection with the less deadly one The more deadly one doesnt travel as fast and so it doesnt exist as readily on the frontiers of community immunity thus it dies out It is chased out of town so to speak|0 Kind of cruel since Trumps budget calls for even more cuts to the CDC As if getting rid of our infectious response department in 2018 wasnt enough|0 My sister just sent me this from on board an Air Canada Flight to LAXThere is a lady on the flight who might have COVID19 and is not feeling good and they tried to get her off but shes not getting off and they are leaving anywaysI thought the gov was tigheting regulations for people having symptoms on planes|0 Why is Coronavirus COVID19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE no longer being updated|0 I just moved from Vancouver to east coast rural CanadaI have two internet providers I use a Bell cellular device for high speed I commonly get 70 Mbps updown and I have crap DSL from TekSavvy I usually get about 15 Mpbs down shit for upCrap DSL is about 70 a month unlimited It works almost well enough for youtubenetflixprime It can be a little slow to start streaming but its okI use the Bell account for work because I work remotely and it isnt uncommon to be in video meetings I also have a VoIP desk phone and remote into servers and things This is billed on a tiered system I usually use 3040 gb of data and this costs around 110130 a monthI also have 10gb download on my mobile phone plan also through Bell so I route things like my laptop through that until I use up 9gbI did have a satellite system for a month through Xplorenet Download was pretty good but it was somewhat expensive overall Much more than the Bell setup The latency was pretty bad so theres a bit of a lag between requesting a site and receiving it I didnt care for itIt is a bit of an adjustment since my previous house had fiber and could easily hit 130 Mbps updown for about 70 a month But the extra internet service costs are no big deal considering I dont have a high mortgage any longer I also go out at night and see all the stars I have an acre of land surrounded by trees and foxes dash across my front yard The trade offs are worth it for me|1 Id wager that a St Patricks day parade being cancelled in the US would be more of an issue than in Ireland so I am not surprised|0 What a shitshow They should be better organized and give out surgical masks for these people waiting to get tested|1 The thing is that theres some serious jumping to conclusions being done here theres a slew of scenarios that could be at play The man in question went to the hospital five times in five days and got five separate tests this is during flu season Its not farfetched at all to assume that he was a little too paranoid about having nCoV kept asking for new tests and ended up fulfilling the prophecy himself by catching it at the hospital where cases were already being treatedEven if you dont believe in that assumption false negatives are not unheard of every test for anything has a potential for producing false negatives just like every test for anything has a potential to produce false positives Yet I dont see anyone worrying about what if the number of cases is inflated by false positives so why is this one false negative such a hot topic here I see it brought up again and again and every time language is being used to imply that theres been a lot or several cases when I have not found any source beyond the one man Im talking about in this comment and Ive specifically searchedIts simple statistics If you have a test with 95 accuracy and you test 100 people you know for a fact are not infected on average youre still going to get five positive test results Similarly you will get false negatives in the same vein test 100 who you know for a fact have the virus and youd get 5 results that indicate no infection Should that be reason to go around every thread that announces a negative result and say but but but what if falseRead up on the baserate fallacyhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiBaseratefallacyAgain Im open to being enlightened with sources The fact that theres downvoting going on here for comments that simply ask for sources is incredibly disappointing|1 At the v least however there are some guidelines and FAQ from the CDC that address things like Can my package from China have COVID19 on it Will warm weather stop the outbreak Can animals give me COVID19 Can someone who has been in isolation infect me etc etc|0 I voted this morning in Florida I was never so aware of how many things I touch that other people touch Every person holds one of two pens to esign to show that you showed up and confirm it is you A piece of paper that someone hands to you and you hand to someone else Then the pens you use to mark the ballot I told myself I would wash my hands as soon as I got home As soon as I got home I got on the computer Ugh|1 Theyre being more selective with their testing Over the last five days Lombardys positive test rate has been 35 42 49 43 54|1 Progress|1 Report them to the proper authorities Be proactive You about a couple and potentially save hundreds down the line|1 Difficult is one thing2050 of the population sick at the same time is another|0 FDA approved|1 Anybody who succeeds her will be the same all just puppets|1 During the H1N1 I was a potential patient tracked in a flight and forced to take Tamiflu the pill really tasted awful I think if even Morocco was able to do it so will Canada|0 Dont believe the Misinformation and propaganda spread by the incompetent government of this administration because they are completely unprepared and incapable of dealing with a lethal pandemichttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2440799utmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf PLoS One 2008 37 e2618Published online 2008 Jul 9 doi 101371journalpone0002618 Professional and HomeMade Face Masks Reduce Exposure to Respiratory Infections among the General PopulationPrincipal FindingsAll types of masks reduced aerosol exposure relatively stable over time unaffected by duration of wear or type of activity but with a high degree of individual variation Personal respirators were more efficient than surgical masks which were more efficient than homemade masksConclusionsSignificanceAny type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence personal respirators providing most protection Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmissionWEAR A MASK|0 And if its on Fox you likely believe the same I dont care about trump care about possible reinfection|0 Right as the number of daily confirmed cases in China falls off a cliff and Wall Street rallies on Hopes that the virus has been contained Weird that|1 I dont think the ratio of deaths to infections is being accurately reported in Iran and the quality of healthcare there is quite poor so I dont think its reasonable to conjecture at this point that its an inherently more deadly strain|0 There are some cases in China where it took 3 or more tests to get positive results on the virus So it could be multiple tests per person but this shouldnt happen very often|1 If u go in a cvs they have free ones by the minute clinic|1 Please read your own source before posting that way I am no Trump fan but this looks like fake news|0 Masks dont mean youre safe|0 Who the fuck cares about what the ccp says they are not to be trusted since the beginning|0 Assuming we can reasonably measure this assumes China is telling us the truth You believe China has been honest They are barring Japan government officials from leaving now They have quarantined tens of millions of people Does this sound reasonably like the actions of people who think only 100 or so people died They quarantined tens of millions when there was only 30 dead Does that sound remotely reasonable|0 This wont work in America derivatives never went away Freeze mortgage payments you might as well stop all bank loans you might as well shut down half of the payroll checks|1 Clusters aready arrived but no one is testing so no one knowsNext week for sure this time promise|1 Saint Catherines of sienna If I guess can you tell lol|1 Good to hear Im glad I was able to inform some people who finally prepared about a week ago I dont have n95s either but I just learned some cool DIY masks using cotton shirts Too lazy to provide link but its a google search away|1 Pride The US is full of pride and the other deadly sins|1 An indirect friends wedding is in Seattle in June She must be stressing right now|1 Employers wont stop it We will|1 And crack down on mask hoarding Im sorry that some people are anxious and panicbuy some ship them back to their relatives in other countries we ALSO have a pandemic and all the signs indicate that since were not testing enough we NEED those masks Xray packages and luggages and make sure those masks stay within our bordersConfiscate all hoarders inventory Trace all these amazon arbitrageupsellersresellers big box store financial records of masks to the hoarder and distribute them to medical professionals who need them If even our HOSPITALS dont have masks due to hoarding its disgraceful Absofuckinglutely disgraceful|1 I havent taken a vacation in 25 years I really need a forced vacation in my basement|0 its too bad you couldnt source parts from other countries but even if you diversified those companies in turn would probably rely on china and it would still grind to a halt sorry man|0 So much for freedom of speech Imagine the spin and misinformation we are about to receiveDoctors should be in charge|1 Its not just a field report or bullet list but my impressions That includes the psychological impact this upheaval is having And as such it is truthful and helpful I hope as others encountering this situation and measures soon would probably feel the same|1 Thats already a given Those who shorted weeks ago are sitting pretty|1 What a scumbag Heres a way to get it for free punch him and take the sanitizer|0 Responsible|1 You cant just assume that persons infection statusits 2020My preferred statuses are InconclusiveNegative but I answer to any status spoken with respect|1 diederichIt will decline from where it is today and approach an asymptote of 1 eventually The more millions tested over next 4 weeks the faster it will get to 1 Only thing that would change that is if the strain mutates to become more deadly and then we are screwed There are 2 strains now|0 I mean doctors still kill people all the time by accident|0 Austrian here Home Office anounced at 3 oclock via the internet the current situation number of positive tested persons 860 1 died recovered people 6 8167 got tested by now Stay at home stay calm and use your brain care for others and of course dont hoard toiletpaper or other stuff Wish you all the best out there we will overcome this togetherBig thanks and the best to all the people who work in health care or similar fields|1 Yeah pretty much my worry Im in law school and our teachers often practise on the side Dont know if theyll have time to record that for us Crossing our fingers but still no announcements so it does seem quite grim|0 Fellow MInnesotan here Try going online for sameday orderpick up If its not at your usual store chances are itll be at a different one Something like that probably has a better chance for being able to order online than TP where you need to come in they wont pullreserve it for you Order later in the evening so the staff will pull it for you firstthing in the morning Ive been doing this for two weeks alternating between Shakopee Lakeville Savage and Burnsville Its awesome|1 The real risk isnt so much now when we can identify a single source location Give it a few more months If there has been more outbreak locations it will be much harder to contain it|0 YouTube may not always be a reliable source especially unverified or unofficial channelshttpssupportgooglecomyoutubeanswer3046484hlenRemember that anyone can upload a video to YouTube for any reason they want and that YouTube content should always be taken with a grain of saltI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorChinaFlu if you have any questions or concerns|1 But those war bonds werent going to sell themselves|0 Thanks This quote gave me cancer|0 Your comment or post has been removed Please avoid offtopic political discussionsOur policy on political posts is as followsThis sub could easily become overwhelmed with political discussion we therefore wish to limit it The line is inevitably blurred but we use a distinction between policy and politics Policy is fine politics is better posted elsewhere News articles that mention or quote elected officials will be given extra scrutiny and if their content is primarily political rather than about policy they will be removed Likewise editorialized headlines whether by the submitter or the news article itself will likely be removed Comment sections of political submissions will be locked early and often Virtually the entire internet is set up to allow you to argue with others about your political opinions if you find that you must do so People who cannot make the politics vs policy distinction may be banned|1 I cant believe this is even a conversationbut okSo according to youpeople cant use words if a Nazi has used them beforeSo as Im sure you were aware if you have ever studied history Hitler had a German Shepard So unquestionably at some point some Nazi somewhere used the word dogAnd yetin your replyyou also used this Nazi word So by your own reasoning you must be a NazirightOf course that isnt right Thats idiotic Nazis dont gain ownership of a word because they spoke itNeither Nazis nor you will ever decide for me which words Im allowed to chooseFrankly the mere fact that you wish to control my words makes you look like the Nazi here|1 MD here Risk is real Potential for hospitalsICUs to become overwhelmed in places if not managed right Your friend should stay hydrated and get some rest she might be very busy in 23 weeks maybe more depending on location But I think WA and CA will get very busy in 23 weeks Hopefully not as bad as Italy right now but possibly|1 I think its still too abstract to the US We havent really seen it yet Like we know the tsunami is coming but right now the water looks fine its just receding back a littleEDIT I just want to add its abstract to me as well Im doing my part stayed in for the last 4 days with the exception of a trip to the grocery store and to Home Depot for some supplies Have really only left to walk the dog and observed social distancing But even today its so weird to think were on the brink of a lot of people dying and Im sitting here deciding if I want to play Jedi Outcast or play guitar tonight Also I havent seen the first episode of Westworld|1 Yeah imo definitely not the time to be paying more into your student loans Especially if youre barely making ends meet to begin with like most of us Im no economist but with the way things are looking right now if we all just stopped paying our student loans there is absolutely nothing the banks or the government could feasibly do about itFor it to work we all or at least a majority would have to stop making student loan payments Kind of analogous to how this whole selfquarantine and containment thing works lol|1 It depends on their respective deadliness in a functioning healthcare system vs an overwhelmed one|1 This is awesome|1 Iran is hiding numbers too|0 Shouldnt masturbation or sex weaken immunity system of men I always feel weak after masturbating|0 i know judging from china that it takes a while for people to be deemed recovered but i really hope we get recovered figures too|1 Its not like being extra careful might hurt in their situation right|0 My god in a prison tooThats disgusting prisoners are people too and if one catches it the rest willI doubt they have enough beds in the H wing to control it|0 He was number one|1 I thought it was Oktoberfest everday in Germany no|0 Hm This place wasnt speaking of this virus being the next extinction event a few days ago did the mods get tired of removing hysterical and fear mongering posts talking about how MILLIONS are going to all die or rot their lungs out just by a viral particle entering their body Jesus christ|0 Long story short should we be shitting bricks What about people with asthma|0 Gillum DeSantis opponent who lost was literally in a room with meth the other day|0 You dont mention but is this the Diamond Princess Let us know what they change the name to|1 Its easy they use financial and economic carrots and sticks to influence WHO NBA Disney and reddit|1 End result is the same is such an BS excuse African Americans are free today regardless of they were enslaved or not So we can just forget that they got enslaved Same result eh Fck no|0 Companies that make TP have warehouses FULL of product How are they not double ordering and double shipping to fulfill the need|1 You have to look at other trendsnumbers as a smallersmallest increase says nothing about the speed of the spread For example an exponential growth has a declining daily increase each day will be smaller change than the last and clearly doesnt mean the spread is slowing|1 Well at the very top it says theres a limit of 4 so you didnt really crash it|1 some other indicators they were up to no goodWalking around while poor|0 Best car parks|1 Like our sense of national pride did|1 While I am not taking anything away from Bills personal contributions towards charity when he ran Microsoft it was an unpleasant place to work and they did not have a great record of caring about anything except for Microsoft All the really positive stuff that I have seen come out of Microsoft has happened since Satya Nadella took over as CEO|1 Still combined with negative flupneumococcal tests it can be very informative|0 I bet them buying the vaccine only for Americans likely means they will just get to charge huge prices for a vaccine and most Americans wont even get it without bankrupting themselves anyway|1 More naive leaders who are only good at falsely promising the people they extort with safety|1 Says that guy that still trust statistics coming from the CCPThese statistics are from WHO|1 To be fair the softwarefirmware was constantly causing scopecost creep|1 applause|1 He already is thats the fucking problem|0 the 23 week incubation periods are extreme outliers Most people are seeing symptoms by 57 days 3 days on the extreme low end|0 The people in charge dont careIt could kill 10 and as long as their economic numbers look good they will be happy Coronavirus should reveal the nakedness of the emperor|1 Thank you for taking the time to post this This was very helpful and appreciated|1 Similarly consider that strains of weed often have antiinflammatory components|0 DO NOT DIP N95 MASKS IN DETERGENT It will degrade the electret charge and ruin your filter It might also ruin the hydrophobic layer in a surgical maskHowever this salt stuff looks promising for all other filters that dont use electret charge even a DIY cotton mask|0 I do not know but he is attached to a device which pumps blood full of oxygen for him because he cant get enough oxygen due to the virus most of time this procedure is used to relieve the lung and let them heal without them being affected by a mechanical ventilation system which is very aggressive to the alveoles But then again k do not now how he is behaving|1 Yes but we arent there yet I dont know if you can filter out all the funk in the water at home But its a quality of life thing|1 Id be pretty disappointed too By sacrificing these events now however you will help increase the likelihood that there will be a college or job for you to go to next year Need to keep the older folks alive so you have a world to take over and improve|1 Theyre using IE I cant find better explanations|0 I truly believe gloves and masks could significantly halt spread|1 Yes thats how the world works famous andor rich people get first welcome|1 Please do not postcomment links to your discord server You can check out our official discord server in the menu tabI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I tell them Italy was overwhelmed in under 3 weeks They said Italy has shit health care and US had 20K deaths from flu last year this is nothing hopelessIdiots|0 thats where youre wrong kiddo|0 thats not how science works lmao|1 I think it is a combination of both Leukemia being like a booster for coronavirus|1 Nah Its a fucking shtick that a bunch of dickheads are trying to make one It absolutely wasnt a thing that was being brought up AT ALL until this started to look serious and then suddenly its political Youre fucking opportunists trying to latch it like parasites now that you think it could be used politically Its transparent and disgusting to use people dying like this|1 Simple you treat them as if they are because in all likelihood this is the case No need for a swab the treatment is the same wether positive or not stay home inform anyone youve come in contact with and if symptoms get bad enough go to the hospital|1 instead of labels like summer the precise temperatures are more important In North qld the temps are still between 25 min to 34 max despite it being autumn Viruses become inactive quickly on warm to hot surfaces The lipid protective coating surrounding the virus melts exposing the virus to the atmosphere and rendering it inactive Its more difficult to contract the virus by touching things exposed to the sun|1 Not journalists DOCTORS Doctors were trying to warn people but instead got arrested|0 Yep my husband literally saw this and just said oh shit this is serious We are in Utah btw thats what Ive been saying for 6 weeks|0 Haha just saw a Twitter pic of a banner outside a large building that said Every disaster movie starts with the government ignoring an expertWe are all on our own here sadly|0 He is treasured here in the US too at least in my heart Love that he just spell out what he sees plainly|1 lol you know News with a capital N|1 I was too then I realized Lysol didnt include their wipes in their list of products that can kill coronavirus So back to Clorox for now|0 I wonder how much communal meals during the new year celebrations contributed to the initial rapid spread grabbing food from a communal dish with chopsticks that just went in your mouth seems like a really easy way to spread this thing to me|1 Yep and from my experience martial law actually works|1 Woohoo 4 day weekend Homer Simpson|1 Thanks for letting us know weve updated the bot|1 I hope in a crisis they will let you make it up but that being said its hard to tell when that would be Im sorry and best of luck|1 The private brief to senators probably laid it bare this was wide scale already and it was likely unstoppable I think now we go slow and get mitigation right in the least restrictive and destructive way possible Not sure what that looks like yet This world problem will have many different solutions for each country|0 Yeah it seems extremely unlikely What is likely dangerous and also mentioned as a risk factor by the German RKI is badly vented event rooms in which people breath or cough all the time and aerosol accumulates Good ventilation is important in particular for rooms with many people so open your windows often|0 It basically feels like were grounded but our parents are on vacation|1 no means of knowingThey absolutely have a means of knowing Its called modelling We have very advanced AI and models especially in this country They arent just guessing and hoping for the best here|1 This 100 Its outrageous The Fucking Tests Arghh I justI cant even lads|0 Another note about the mall in San Antonio Thats where they dropped everyone off after releasing them from quarantine Instead of letting someone come get them or making arrangements for them to get where they needed to go they just dropped them off at the mall and made it someone elses problem|0 Probably but there are people who unironically think like this|1 First off Im potentially saving this persons life by telling him not to take drugs from online pharmacies and without professional medical consent Plaquenil is not an Advil or Tylenolyou can just pop Its a serious immunosuppressing medication with potential life threatening side effects and is not just a drug everyone can take if they have other underlying conditions Dont take it without medical consent Every single doctor would say the same thing Secondmy username refers to how soul crushing and awful taking the mcat is You wouldnt know and thank god youre not a doctor respectfully|0 95 of the employees are hourly This is scary Hopefully WDW will provide Covid19 testing free and follow up if needed Scary Scary scary|0 It spares nobody Older people make up more of the dead but everyone expert people in their single digit years belong to a category that has died|0 Everyone in this stupid sub is doing more damage to themselves stressing over nothing than this virus ever will|0 Our local school district is still in the well wait for the CDC to tell us we have a case and must close the schoolsNo tests mean no infections mean no worries|0 Sad but true|1 Julie Gerberding head of the CDC purposefully lied about that question then A senator asked her why a SARS vaccine was never made and she said it was just because SARS went away before they got enough funding to continue making a vaccine He then pushed further and asked whether it was a funding thing or something about the virus that would make it hard to make a vaccine And she said again it was just a funding issue |0 Rule 7 Avoid OffTopic Political Discussions|0 Multiple people have called you out for promoting fake health goopesque bullshit that you parade around as factual medical advice You are only active in subreddits spreading information about the flu You do this constantly Give up Youre at least 70 years old Sus lol Old school should be a huge red flag about outdated practices Retire|0 Capable Definitely We are a world leader in medical research Willing I hope so|1 I dont get if there is Proof that it works even though these trials arent completed From the standpoint of science pretrial case studies are only limited forms of proof|0 Realized jeff bezos no where to be found|0 A lot of the profit made could still be used for good funding for hospitals etc that are going to be overrunThey cant deny that theyve made the situation worse by holding this concert so Id have a little pinch of respect if they got their heads out of their arses and did something to help|1 Exactly If you let your quarantined persons associate with each other or anyone else its not a quarantine its just a petridish breeding groundQuarantine depends on knowing the last possible time someone might have been infected and then going through the incubation time If your quarantined persons can be infected by each other then you have have a new last possible time and you have to reset the timer for each new infected person foundIt might be useful to tell people in quarantine that as well If they dont want to be alone in a cabin getting food oneway and without contact then they may end up in an indefinite quarantine|0 Bold of you to assume I have friends|1 And the biggest take would be MASKS are effective Good god that is the worst lie theyve said Even the secret service has been duped|1 No idea about how the water works on a ship like that I do know they have talked about needing to go out to sea every couple days to make fresh water with the desalination unit on the ship|1 Quarantine includes time travel Please dont go back and infect everyone in 1991|1 United States|1 What is this picture circulating on some social media about every election year there is a virus blah blah blah is there truth to it or more horse shit conspiracy|0 Not true They encourage you not to share a toilet and not have visitors but the only enforced rule is dont leave your home|0 You were talking about FEMA camps 4 days ago a day after that article came out this is definitely bullshit wouldnt you post about your family before FEMA camps|0 This is infuriating Sadly there are many people who will not take this seriously and will not begin to take necessary precautions until they know it is close to them This is only going to cause the virus to spread faster in TN because people will still feel disconnected from itEdit Looks like weve been heard They just updated their policy and will now release county info for positive coronavirus caseshttpswwwtngovhealthnews2020310tdhannouncesupdatetocovid19casemanagementpolicieshtml|0 What a tragedy He was just about to live his life as a family man with a bright career ahead of him Rest in peace Dr Li Wenliang|1 That has been the puzzling thing to me If it has been transmitting persontoperson for the past six weeks then why am I not hearing about hospital overload Maybe it isnt at that point yet or maybe it is affecting Seattle differently I havent figured it out yet|0 Look up influenza deaths in China anyone who thinks China arent doing the same thing for coronavirus deaths is very gullible|0 Talking about the 20 medication wasnt the point I was just using smaller numbersI was just stating why prices were increasing More people need it so pharmacies charge more to gouge the citizens Them insurance companies deny to pay any more than half for the gouged prices making pharmacies double their prices again|0 Getting a lot of tests Roche Thermo Fisher approved quickly is one of the things I feel Pence is helping Previous to his leadership it was literally nothingFDA and CDC are supposed to be full of scientists and experts but look at how slow the response was They were probably more interested in covering their asses behind long and strict approval processes than responding quickly and protecting American lives in this onceonehundredyear event|1 were fucked|0 Game Stop power to the asymptomaticI swear that the company seems to be taking the exact same trajectory as Radio Shack|0 Too bad current admin wouldnt allow reevaluating how polls are conducted|0 Thank you that was a lovely comment and made my day We are very close and that does allow us to blow off steam as we all know that its usually just fustrations and at the end of the day we are always there for each otherMy daughter is amazing I feel so guilty at times as she only ever knew me ill when she was growing up as I got ME when she was about 18months old so I could never really play and run around with her like I did with her older brotherIve been a lot better this last few months thank you as I started importing some natural thyroid medication from Thailand which whilst not curing me had given me my life back according to the NHS my levels were just slightly below treatment levels so they wouldnt do anythingOne of my most treasured photos is of my late grandmother holding my new born daughter with my mother myself and sisters in the picture we have always been a close family and I hope that will pass along with my granddaughters generation|1 Thank you for supporting|1 Tell this dumbass that|0 lmao whatever you say bigot|1 Not to be negative but Canada doesnt have that much experience with SARS I mean the number of people who were infected during SAR was not even 1000 Its the speed of spreading and the amount of people getting sick at the same time makes COVID19 scary Can you imagine every day there are 200 more people in critical condition and need treatment right away|0 Yes of course I believe there is a no estimated return date on there as wel but its been a long time since Ive done it|1 You clearly dont know how the quarantine works|1 Alcohol gels available in the marker ranges from 62 80 in ethnaol or isopropanol contant Gels and liquid works the same While gel may increase the compliance liquid form performs betterhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpubmed11988252 Anyway both are good for keeping hands clean|1 Been watching since January and sounding the alarm to my family the entire time My mother is severely immunocompromised and I have desperately trying to get her to take this seriously the entire time She is telling me she is totally taking it seriously She has a 20 acre farm in the middle of no where She can easily self quarantine She went out to eat in a restaurant Tulsa tonight there are known cases in Tulsa CountyI am beyond frustrated|0 A very high proportion of the world has one or both of those as well|1 Because Wuhan was the epicenter and it takes a while before the virus becomes a problem too big for a locality to solve But once its too big for the locality hyper aggressive actions are neededThe rnaught of the virus the rate of infection is exceedingly high It is seemingly easy for this virus to grow into a city stopper before the city even recognizes the extent of the problemUndiagnosed pneumonia happens everywhere Once doctors started figuring out it wasnt just a random spike in influenza privately amongst themselves the administration in China started sanctioning doctors and forcing them to sign retractions If private companies raised the alarm they were told to shut up So the state of information sharing and leadership in China ensured it would spread far and wide before it was confrontedConsequently instead of 100 undiagnosed pneumonia the city will have thousands or tens of thousands of cases But as you know most hospitals run close to 100 capacity With thousands of new sick there is a lack the beds oxygen medical professionals etc The first wave of infected die at ridiculous rates The true preFeb 1 death rates in Wuhan are likely what we will see from Iran in these early daysThis is why early leadership transparent actions and aggressive confronting of the virus are required Because if you say well figure it out once we get there its already too late Wuhan could fly in thousands of doctors to confront the issue Who can California or Oregon fly in if 20 states are affected and the remaining states have smaller outbreaks|0 Wed be happy that the government is treating an outbreak seriously and responding accordingly Instead he decided not to treat it seriously at all and even call concerns around it a hoax Thats the problem people have with him he never seems to treat anything seriouslyPeoples lives are literally at risk Even if they dont die getting really sick tends to cause a lot of problems for people in general The current response shows no regards for people|0 I think staying put is a better bet it seems like air travel is a sure way to get sick Unless they have some quality masks that they could wear the whole time Airport procedures are abysmal for this right now|1 Im seld employed Not sure what to do|0 Criminals just stop Okay Just stop|0 Yes My unit was closed because it is for nonemergency procedures We do not have enough supplies I will be floated tomorrow to where we are short staffed I live in NY|1 Heres what I tell myself 1 Chinas response is beyond what the statistics and numbers require 2 Its very difficult to determine what was fake or not however it is a fact that all information has ceased coming from that region meaning it has to be worse than reported Even the CCP stopped with their videos of the hospital etc 3 The rapid spread in Japan Death Princess Iran Italy and South Korea show that its not a joke|0 Its becoming a badge of honor for politicians and celebs to get corona|1 Yes but OP knows that if he says someone famous did it he gets more internet points|1 The first plane in were tested 3 times swab nasal and blood Im sure the second flight was too|1 Yeah this is bullshit stores are empty but warehouses are full Now this poor woman in a higher risk age bracket has to leave her house a second time because people apparently dont understand how grocery stores work|0 Followed you so I can keep up to dateA colleague of mine that works upstairs in the care home I work at went to Italy on holiday today she was very excited about it last nightShe didnt seem to give a shit about the Coronavirus but it has me very paranoid shes gonna bring it back with her|0 I feel your pain I suffer from the same things as you and my only support is my 67 year old father who has a lot of chronic health issues I have been dealing with a lot of catastrophic thinking over the past few weeks Im just hoping that things start to improve sooner rather than later Hopefully the treatments that are in trials will be effective and available in the not so distant future|1 Stop spreading lies You can still fly to China from the US They restricted some locationshttpsiimgurcomctfXlY9jpg|0 Thats a tough situation to handle I hope for the best|1 httpsstorechurchofjesuschristorgusaenfoodstorage30744573456166788491They are sold out of most things right now Probably because of the current crisis After this blows over check them out|0 Why didnt the White House just bring the team back Beg and plead we were wrong please come back and help|1 Contact your MLAs tell them to close the schools and ban gatherings Repeat|0 Theyre not gonna make shit if noone can watch it in the theater|1 WTF the actual fuck is a stupid law like that wow SMH|0 It is interesting to hear a statement from WHO and the government I hope they call all the passengers right now and ask urgently to leave the crowded places and if possible isolate themselves for 1424 days and report if symptoms appearx200BSERIOUSLY IF YOU WERE ON THIS SHIP Be responsible take all measures not to infect other people If you have a fever or other symptoms Call an ambulance Avoid crowds Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing if there is no mask cough into the elbow joint and do not touch surfaces such as elevator digs door handlesx200BI hope this is an isolated case|1 Seine flu bent the worlds greatest nations over a barrel in 2009 with no lube Where was the media then|1 They have to be fitted properly and a lot of people dont ensure thats done correctly|0 Canadian cities have low population densities European cities not as bad as China but still very densely built up apartment blocks crammed public transport The cities are not quite as big but still very denseWe wouldnt have the mass travel event China had with the New Year so thats an advantage China missed the chance of banning New Year travel mid January I doubt we would have done any better if this had started in the West in early November and authorities had to decide whether to be cautious and ban Christmas travel No one would have had the guts to cancel Christmas shopping and travel Its easy to point the finger|0 Thank you for sharing this|1 LOL|1 The government doesnt care about them You have rent to pay Oh well Good luck to you Also we still expect you to pay your taxes|1 Thanks|1 Bc we dont have a problem just the flu right|0 Its morbid but if anyone Reddit has a strange boner for Keanu being the big one became a confirmed case thatd be a great way to gauge how much censorship is actually occuring|1 Literally is for healthy people under 50 that live in the western world|1 SG has great doctors fantastic hospitals worldleading care discipline If you are headed for 23 weeks of managed isolation care youre going to get the best attention money cannot buy Ask a family member go buy a Nintendo Switch handful of games call the NCID Best of luck stay positive|1 Like that doesnt happen 50 times a day anyway Im sure the mainstream US news media will fail to report on every important aspect of coronavirus until its too late because the billionaires that own them want it that way|1 Thats the world I want to live in|1 The issue is that the CCP in China covered up the disease for an entire month while it spread aroundhttpsnypostcom20200229chinaofficialsknewofcoronavirusindecemberorderedcoverupreportsaysI dont care if Superman is President Even he couldnt do anything to stop it spread in the US or in any other country with a land air or sea connection with China|0 Thank you Bill Gates The Virus is VERY serious We should do our BEST to stop the spread because not every country in the world has a good medical system like the west|1 Even Chinese smartphone makers like Xiaomi have been setting up plants in India due to Indias owm tariff|1 You could always wear a mask Point out that its recommended by the CDC if you think you have symptoms Although personally and I understand everybody has to pick their battles and families family I wouldnt want to eat dinner with anyone that would scream at me|0 Not to be that personbut if it was accidentally leaked from a lab what are the chances that it was a bioweapon to target certain ethnicities while leaving others less affected|0 Agreed but Im not sure what that should entail A fining system Forced quarantine in a safe facility Not welding people in their homes|0 Honestly I used to eat out so much but Ive been afraid to eat take out since this all happened Saving me money I guess lol|1 whats winning WW2 got to do with anything|1 Yup and only 213 people died Also are numbers are 100 correctThis is contained Thats why we dont trust China|0 My state has a population of 85 million people The local news tonight quoted a State Health Lab employee who said we have 300400 test kits available now and hope to have 500 to 600 kits available soon 300600 test kits total for 85 million people They also said theres been 69 tests in the state so far and 9 of them have presumptive positive results We had zero cases 6 days ago Well zero cases confirmed by a test|1 No it doesnt This study only compared two types of mask It didnt investigate no mask or handwashing|0 And theres also no individual data for cancer patients diabetes or organ transplants People need this information so that they can make an informed decision about what their true risk is|0 I think the danger is that the minority who gets critical or severe wont be able to get the healthcare that they need if it happens too fastThis is what happened with Italy and China It wasnt that COVID19 was deadly its that it overwhelmed the healthcare system|0 Lol speaking of this If anybody needs masks let me know I have some|1 essentially committing crimes against humanity is kind of Chinas MO|1 I just got that news alert two mins ago Not shocked at all that theyve found more Just waiting for the numbers to roll in In the meantime Im staying home |1 My worst nightmare|0 I found masks at advanced auto parts a few days ago Their site lets you check all the stores within 30 miles to see where they are in stock|1 This is what im trying to tell people and they are literally laughing at me Im in Florida a county with a confirmed case|1 Wow this is really solid work and about time So basically the extremely high case fatality rate of 18 calculated for Wuhan is down to the screening method used Or put in another way there seems to be about 10 infected for every registered patient This also explains the discrepancy in fatality rate between China and western countries It feels oddly reassuring to know that the danger of dying from COVID19 only equals about 10 years worth of seasonal flu|0 Also to prevent complete overload of medical resources Good luck getting an ICU bed and lifesaving treatment for a medical emergency when the system is past capacity with COVID patients|1 Does anyone know if there are plans to run serological tests on every single cruise ship guest and crewNow that data would be cool|1 A school in my state has found a child with a positive test and announced they are closing for two weeks starting today Apparently they contacted parents sunday night so Im glad to see they are starting to act around here We only have one confirmed adult case announced on the news so far but if this child has it obviously its already widespread|1 I knew Id hit rock bottom when I seriously considered getting a Texas catheter condom with a hose attached so I wouldnt have to get up from the computer to pee|0 I work for the council too i do customer service on the receptions weve been told nothing only to keep desks clean Other council staff have been told to work from home and heres us forgot about as usual The ones who come into contact with most people|1 Thats true but it could increase the chance of picking up a bacterial infection which would make you more vulnerable Any way Im not sure why Im arguing this Im pretty sure were both on Team Wash your friggin hands and stop worrying about them getting chapped|0 It shouldnt be too surprising from the federal level The CDC was late to the party on Ebolahttpswwwwsjcomarticlesusebolaresponsetobeexaminedbycongressthursday1413459734 and the Obama administration got questioned for it 6 years ago Personally I think the CDC is just incompetent in general regardless of the administration|0 Following as well|1 Yes you do ahah ministre Legault is doing a good job we stand behind him|1 Welcome to britain the trend of thought there who cares about his safety|1 Okay pal why are the Chinese using HIV drugs to fight thishttpswwwfiercepharmacompharmaasiachinarepurposesabbviehivdugasbigpharmaralliestohelpcombatdeadlycoronavirus To battle the coronavirus emergency Chinese government and medical experts are taking some unconventional measures including publicly backing offlabel use of a Big Pharma drug AbbVies fixeddose HIV drug Kaletraalso known as Aluvia is now recommended as a treatment for pneumonia caused by the new coronavirus known as 2019nCoV Chinas National Health Commission says in its updated clinical guidancehttpstateofthenationcop6103Four Gene Insertions Dont Just Happen Except By Purposeful and Malevolent DesignIt doesnt get any bigger than this recent scientific finding and forensic development in the Wuhan coronavirus bioweapon case The following 4 screenshots tell the story so that even the layperson can understand Really how does this coronavirus possess HIV viruslike insertions This complex bioengineered virus could only have been created in an extremely sophisticated bioweapon laboratory of which there are very few in the entire world to produce such a deadly infectious disease Only the usual suspects would ever have conceived the intentional release of such a dangerous pandemic agent upon the world community of nations Those obvious suspects and their motives are thoroughly discussed in this expos WUHAN CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC BIOENGINEERED Whos behind it why now and why ChinaAccording to researchers from Nanki University in Tianjin China Covid19 contains a strange HIVlike mutation that may make it more contagious and give it properties not found in other coronavirusesThe Chinese study builds upon earlier research in India that concluded that the disease was unlikely to have originated in nature This comes amid speculation that Covid19 originated in a Chinese research lab located in Wuhan httpchinaxivorgabs20200200004|0 Omg I feel for you My brother has been completely unfazed by all of this My parents dont want to make waves with him because they had to cancel seeing him for Thanksgiving when they got the flu Lol I would have been fine and glad they did but he took it personally Just amazes meEdit grammar|1 Its likely some of those patients categorized as flu actually had coronavirus Many times they test negative for flu but physician will still diagnose as flu CDC admitted some of the patients who have died of influenza actually had coronavirus after post death samples were taken|0 Almost certainly yes Think about all the cases across the world that came from Iran The odds that all these people ran into the same small crowd admittedly getting bigger is impossible|1 Im a lefty and even I have to admit that OP is ignorant and his hate has him blind to the actual consequences Lets hope Trump is not sick and Im hoping both sides can work together to fight this We are going to need all hands on deck and all sides working on the issue|0 I have heard that but seems like there are no reputable sources for thatI just mean that the contingency plans that China is activating are the SAME as if it was a biological attack|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to ensure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 and that came from the very top|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 You have no regime You have a democratically elected government|0 Going from 1 to 1000 takes 10 doubling Right now the doubling rate looks to be 6 days Even if you start with 10 people sick its still 10 doublings to get to 10000 With a 3 percent fatality rate your looking at an average of 30 people per thousand If its been 45 days we have this far seen 7 doublings If we started at 1 That would mean we still have 774 of cases to go between now and 10000Thats what people dont seem to grasp If it was 3 days and we started with 10 people We would have about 32000 cases nation wide And most of those cases would either be asymptomatic still It has a long incubation and recovery period So 7 doublings worth of cohorts at anytime wont even necessarily showing yet|0 Wow thats crazy you must paying like 4 or 5 grand a month|1 Right now would actually be a really interesting time to do clinicals but Id also rather not get sick|1 Yes Its a tabloid|1 A friend of mine got flu like symptoms starting a few weeks ago They havent traveled abroad However they do work in a school They are getting worse A cough they cant shake and constant ups and downs with fevers The doc has sent them for a chest Xray and this came back clear Not once has any professional mentioned testing for Covid 19 Any ideas why this is|1 Lets just be clear All humans of every race have historically fucking blown|1 scary for those in their 60s and up or in early age Its a major concern for the rest us at most|0 CCP will blame others for its own mistake Shame isnt in its dictionary LOL|0 Theyre probably trying to hold out until spring break is over since its a huge season for them|1 Its not essential if the workers dont feel it is People by the looks of it have enough food let alone TP|0 And theres been nearly a 50 increase in tests too|1 Oh dear whats the issue this time|1 I didnt notice that Coronvirus might be filtered and being compressed with the Twitter controlled News portion where they select the tweetsThis is media propaganda of denial to be honest|1 I have faith in no government|1 Be a cynic expect governments to lie to you expect the love of money to override truth or honesty You wont be disappointed|1 Its actually every business not just Chinese restaurants My sales have gone from 250 a day to 20 per week People are more concerned about saving money and buying emergency supplies and just survival than consumerism|0 Fun fact in my town since the lockdown only one person at a time can get inside a bank|1 Im so nervous for people around me I had a fever of about 1008 for three days over the weekend with dry cough fatigue and diarrhea I had a doctors appt the Friday of the weekend I felt off and they reported an elevated heart rate but couldnt take my temperature all their thermometers were haunted or something who knows Ive never been sick like that before and it wasnt overly debilitating or anything but it was strange We have confirmed cases in my state and I work with people who could have been exposed through travel No confirmed cases on my campus but Im nervous that whatever I had was a mild case and that I was shedding the virus without knowing it Based on the info Im seeing this could have been a mild case but I have no way to know and like I did see a doctor in that time but it feels like people are not taking things particularly seriously here because we dont have confirmed cases Im not sure what to do about any of this but Im keeping close tabs on reports to see if confirmations crop up where I am|0 Unnintented side effects that could potentially be worse than the disease itself|0 dont HEPA filters need changing a couple of times a day to block nCovIm going to guess no the thousands of passenger cabins dont all have thisto say nothing of contamination from contact with door handles stair handrails etc|0 Im leaving my house in London because I live with a bunch of people who are not taking it seriously Its clear to me they just dont like facing really bad news and they dont have a lot of critical thinking skillsx200BHonestly this will sound horrible but if you have people near you who dont seem to have their life together part of that I think is they just dont make plans and dont think theyre worth making and they like to improvise wildly And thats the sort of people to run away from right now|0 Id say Mexico is in for a rough time too unfortunately|0 Dont be embarrassed I occasionally catch myself doing the same When I was two I figured out how to open our back sliding door and wandered off into the yard My parents couldnt find me so instead of looking for me they freaked out because they assumed that the rapture had happened and started praying A neighbor found me and brought me home My parents always sort of laughed whenever they told that story but it always unnerved me that that was their first reaction It unnerved me even more when my daughter was a toddler and started playing hideandseek without telling me that we were playing it I couldnt find her and the first thought in my mind was the rapture however I still continued to look and found her|1 Exactly its fucking infuriating|0 You are right about the death of the unconfirmed cases I wasnt thinking about the fatality rate of the official statistics I was thinking about the actual fatality rate of someone who is infected in Hubei or elsewhere whether confirmed or not confirmed Given the hospital situation in Hubei for any given patient I believe the fatality rate is higher than say in Shanghai|0 Well wellwell YOURE CRINGE|1 I said to my husband why are people leaving China just to live the nightmare all over again in the US I said this weeks ago Safer in China|1 Whats with that document OP Its obviously fake Those arent even words Total gibberish JK Hope youre awright|1 Im not saying COVID19 isnt a problem just that its easy to see why the layman is sick of panicking|0 Because its not that easy Have you seen a vehicle assembly line Its almost entirely made up of VERY specialized equipment and unique robots that were built to do one thing like mounting a dashboard in a car or putting a windshield on attach a door bolt the seats in etc You cant just switch over to making something entirely different like they could probably make a Civic instead of a Focus but they couldnt make a rifle an iPad or Ventilators Add that to the fact that medical devices have to be constructed in clean rooms which a vehicle assembly line is not and youve got a bunch of reasons why|1 The switch was a mistake I understand why they did it and why having a lesspanicky subreddit under the name people would search for first would be better for mental health but now we just wound up with two panic subs one because its supposed to be that way and another because its too big to be moderated well|0 The only time Ive experienced air quality comparable to Chinese cities was in the wildfire smoke that covered most of the West Coast in the summers of 2017 and 2018 I lived in two small cities in Hunan by Chinese standards 5 million and 1 million in 20082009 and regularly visited the moderate by Chinese standards Changsha which was sometimes so bad during the dry season that you couldnt see skyscrapers more than a few blocks away I had one episode of a severe coldcoughlaryngitis in China I had 2 pretty severe respiratory illnesses after the smoky summer of 2018 and have had none so far this year after a clean summer knocks on wood Air quality definitely makes a difference in the severity of illness for me even for awhile after being exposed|0 Not sure if I believe this Its China|0 Ive been saying this for two weeks and getting lambasted Its because people only care about themselves and dont give a fuck about anything other tham their stupid fucking concert|1 Its almost like having forprofit healthcare is a bad idea|0 lol|1 And WHO for down playing this and acting like the Chinese spoken man|1 I deleted I dont have a source it was just breaking news on TV in canada Im watching it in ottawa Guess well wait and see if were getting fake news or you guys are being kept in the dark |0 Will I get my preordered switch Please I need answers |1 Hey Im in NYC too and Im really freaking out My parents dont live here and they seem so unconcerned Theyre not in a good economic place and both work jobs that are not possible to do remotely and would be extremely affected if this gets worse I frankly think theyre in denial I am so anxious and I am sorry that this isnt helpful but just know youre not the only one who is freaking out in this area I am especially worried as my SOs job has not yet moved to work from home Stupid stupid stupid And also maybe take comfort in that it seems like a LOT of people ARE listening to the recommendations of social distancing now I HAD to take the subway the other day to pick up files I needed to work from home and it was a ghost town And my law school and both of my part time jobs have gone remote Lets hope this mitigation is going to do SOMETHING|0 Wow What a shit show The US seems to have been completely unprepared for any of this And the decision to force sick people back into work is horrendous people are absolutely going to die because of this decision This is staying up and approved What should the CDC and the retirement home be doing instead|0 Theres no way he didnt get it|0 I hope all businesses that do this fail miserably|0 This is true After looking into it a bit more Im actually fairly optimistic for Saudi Arabia Its warm even in winter they have good medical facilities low population density little contact with Iran and they seem to be taking it quite seriously Although on the flip side they spend a lot of time packing people into mosques which could spread it Well see|1 Idk that blonde with the tealaquamarine jacket could get it|0 It definitely varies by college My college allows you to stay the whole winter break if you want|1 Probably not a good idea to lick the floor then|0 Doctors are recommending that you do It wont protect you from covid19 but it will protect you from flu This keeps you from getting both at once and also keeps people out of hospitals Need to keep the hospitals clear|0 Great questions I cant say for others but different workplaces across the world are trying different things moving seating around to create more distance splitting lunch hours so only a fraction of the company are having lunch at one time obviously keeping 2m distance when going to someone to talk do meetings etc Definitely bring this up with your management as a concern for your safety in the coming weeksmonths and any reasonable employer should make things happen for workplace safetyAs for commute sigh its almost impossible Maybe carpoolingEverything helps in terms of social distancing|1 It will be very interesting to see the effect this has on the planet Way less pollution and emissions during this time It will give scientists to see the effect we have on curbing climate change from reducing emissions and prove once and for all to the deniers out there that we can make a difference|1 Prison|0 Call your loan companies and tell them you were laid off due to the pandemic Some of them will be willing to take a deferment or a smaller payment Im sorry I am working 10 hours instead of 40 this week|0 Interesting|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Staff isnt even the main problem Its equipmentroomsYou can get more staff from volunteersretiredtrained but in other professions in times of crisis you cant build more ventilators and oxygen compressors so quickly You cant build pressurenegative isolation rooms chinas quick building was nowhere near what would be a good facility|0 Water is clear|1 NYC is ready to sacrifice 34 percent of its population because they are too proud to have an epidemic|1 Agree This is one of the better uses of internet connectivity|1 My husband is calling me a nutcase for wanting to stock up he doesnt think its that bad|0 im here in madrid trying to decide whether to stay or leave|0 No being miserable for weeks is one thing Passing it to others without knowing is the big thing You dont need to be sick or miserable to give your grandparents corona|0 For real Trump was calling it a democrat hoax less than weeks ago at one of his group therapy sessions|0 Unfortunately most people are reactive not proactive Almost all of my friends lived in la la land and it didnt hit their dense skulls how bad this situation is until the NBA season got suspended Now theyre a few of the many buffoons lining up to buy 80 stacks of toilet paper because they seemingly havent wiped their asses in 4 years|0 I think everyone on Reddit has known this for ages other countries confirmed it months ago including China What took Canada so long to actually admit it is beyond me|1 Lol do you really believe that|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 It says essentially the same thing in the linkThis means that most individuals who are tested are unlikely to be infected with Wuhan novel coronavirus|0 My understanding is that the official Chinese definition has always been cases with the illness not just the infection Suspected case one with symptoms including pneumonia positive lab test confirmed caseAlso the Chinese numbers I saw on official pages were mostly directly labelled confirmed cases of pneumonia caused by novel corona virus See also my other comment with more details httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf1py42chinesenationalhealthcommissionhaschangedfh81r6t|1 as quickly as China did during the initial explosive growth of their first few weeks during the outbreakCan you imagine any US govt completely shutting down entire cities like China did Definitely going to get some rednecks arming them selves against the govt at that point|1 Korfastt on reddit said it so it must be true The host of one of the most popular shows on TV must be dumb as a rock Korfastt is really smart though he knows that shitposting on reddit is where its at|1 Every time she walked in she probably was coughing and releasing mushroom clouds of virus aerosols in the tiny enclosed shared oxygen of a meeting hall and the rest of the attendees hoovered them up right into their mucus membranes If she sat in different areas at random each time she went entirely different groups would be affected Additionally some of the seeded cases may have later infected more people in the hall Might be two or even three generations of infection deep already if asymptomatic spreading is the norm not the exception I havent seen any proof it isnt|0 Actually try to hold a minimum of 1 meter distance as recommended by the WHO What can I do to protect myself from the coronavirus Maintain at least 1 metre 3 feet distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing httpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronaviruseshttpswwwwhointnewsroomqadetailqacoronaviruses|1 One of the things thats helped me that someone said We will get through this One way or another whatever faces us its something were going to walk through together and well get through the other side This will pass as all things do There will be some scary times but this isnt like endoftheworld scenarios or anything 95 of the population will be fine But Were going to go through this one way or another the best thing we can do is prepare and face it in as calm and rational manner as possible Panicking only makes things worse our health and how we react to things SO if were going to go through this no matter what theres no way around it the best we can do is stay healthy stay smart and face it with a clear head Were walking through this together Like all things well walk through it and it will pass All we can do is do the best we can and be brave but things will largely be fine even if things feel scary at the moment Be brave buddy Well make it through this and hell we may even learn a few things Maybe some good will come out of this in the end and in the meantime well learn how to lean on community and care for one another|1 Bruh the upvotes of this post are uncannily high If you read the articles on Vietnamese Commies Force 47 asswipes you would see that the official figure is 10000 paid peons working hard so 700 votes is nothing to them The unofficial figure is likely much higher|0 Yes but imagine if OP chose yellow as his pseudocolor this would be a naughty lung tennis ball|1 This Washingtonian thanks you|1 Fuck I am supposed to go yo a wedding today|0 I just want to say thank you I was ignorant of the excellent work of BNO prior to this crisis You and the rest of the team are doing the most fantastic job I cannot tell you how impressed I have been Thank you|1 Yeah its all fun and games until they get sick|1 In an optimal environment Outdoors isnt an optimal environment for a virus to live|1 well breathing issues sound counterproductive|1 it is funny USA have all the disadvantages of socialism but not a single advantage of that|0 Yes youre right As unfortunate as it is for the people aboard they provide an extra point of view for the disease Although I do have to point out that cruise ships are very infectious for diseases so we shouldnt look for the infectious capability of the virus using the cruise ships But it will provide insight on the hospitalization rate though|0 Right on man be safe|1 US government is trying to hide the numbers|0 Amazing Ive never been this close in my life I just need to find 4 friends and I can hit the max gathering amount|1 saving faceThat is the shit that needs to be wiped from the earth|1 This what we desperately need|0 I believe ChinaI believe WHO their report on vetting the China numbersI dont believe the US Im absolutely certain the US hasis hiding deaths by conveniently not testing or doing post mortems on pneumoniainfluenzalike deaths over the last several weeksThe ONLY revision to deaths prior to testing finally ramping up has been a handful of Evergreen deaths How likely is it those were the only untested COVID19 deaths Extremely unlikely But well never know Chance of the US letting WHO come and do an audit like China did ZERO|1 Im not sure what Canadas protocol for epidemics are but handwashing and not touching your face make more of a difference than you thing Many viruses use a lipid bilayer to enter the body like a bubble to protect against stomach acid usually and hand washing for 2060 seconds helps bust up that lipid bilayer and makes it harder for the virus to survive or easier for your body to combat it I cant comment on touching your face because Ive worked in hospitals for 2 years and im still notoriously bad at not doing that but its helped my coworkers who have better selfcontrol than i do Im a student planning on going into medical I have a work history in hospitals and I had to do a research paper on SARS in my microbiology class so Im vaguely familiar with some coronavirus history and viruses themselves Im by no means an expert and cannot issue medical advice my work experience is also strictly in US hospitals so there may be a difference in protocol there but if there are specific concerns you have about the virus or transmission I can do my best to provide information based on my workschooling history Im trying to check reddit a couple times a day to answer questions and if I do not have the answer I can at least point you in a direction to give yourself more information The more you know about this the less scary it becomes so if theres any information I can provide to make you feel more comfortable let me know and Ill get back to you as soon as I can|1 Just like the plague doctors in the Middle Ages RIP sir|1 De Blasio is actually threatening to fire teachers who dont show up for work on Monday|0 My seeds didnt work enough My entire friend group is going to NOLA besides me this weekend even though they just shut down the remainder of the biggest 3week festival my city gets each year Ill happily be at home netflixing|1 Singapore isnt really that rich There are a disproportionate number of wealthy people who have chosen to settle here tax haven but the average citizen isnt rich Singapore is 18 ranked by median household incomehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiMedianincome adjusted by purchasing power parity US is 5 Taxes are low so effectively Singaporeans may have it better but very few people are living the Crazy Rich Asians life|1 I like this comment because it tells me that I am smart|1 Actually he wasnt Italian health chiefHe was a general practitioner my secretarys one and the president of the local professional associationStill a tragedy btw|0 Its not particular to Chinese people People anywhere can turn into a mob if their survival becomes a question There are not food shortages or mob behaviour now for the most part but situations can go off the rails quite quickly|1 yeah stress is a bitch Ive been in the toilet for like an hour because I have got cold from roommate and Im sure its cold because Im already feeling fine after sleeping for 4 hours and Ive got no running nose cough or anything just slight sore throat and Im just so stressed out that Ive been shaking and wanted to vomit|0 As I understand it China was quarantining people in their houses Hard to imagine that being enforced here|0 Theres good pho in parts of Denver too|1 Possibly try virgin coconut oil as a moisturizer too Its less convenient than lotion but ingredients in most lotions can exacerbate an irritation not to mention a lot of them contain toxic chemicals The oil replenishes necessary oils in your skin soothes irritation and dryness nourishes your body absorbs quickly and it also has antifungalantiviral properties |0 Relax I am making a broader point The use of the term recovered is the issue It is reckless to say that anyone has recovered without understanding the impact of this disease People are still suffering long term effects of SARS1|0 They do if the WHO did its bloody job|0 Itll still be under a health emergency Martial Law comes in when that fails and the system breaks down But act like an idiot and in either case they will kick your teeth in just the same|0 The interviewer should have went on a tirade about evil genocidal Boris because his high level plan cant possibly perfectly deal with the situation of every single 70yo in the entire country and hes therefore personally trying to kill the poor|0 I wish I had not read this Omg|1 I agree and it needs to be right now not a week from now when things have really gotten out of hand Surely were bright enough as a country to learn from others mistakes|1 When people run out of necessities because they didnt prepare and are out of work losing money hungryTheyre going to be knocking on your door begging for help or not so politely asking Or not asking at all UBI or something similar might prevent that Everyone is worried about the virus and not about the sideeffects it will have on peoples behavior|0 I have some canned and frozen veggies If you get the decent brands they are pretty decent|1 You contextually bring up a very good point That point is individual patient care verses population based public health It can be frustrating as an investigator at the tip of the spear of trying to stop many outbreaks As a Communicable Disease Epidemiology Program Manager on more than one occasion I have seen a physicianhealthcare provider identify a suspected measles case and provide excellent patient specific care But it never occurs to them that all the people in the waiting room for up to two hours after the measles case has left are at risk Nobody attempts to identify who was in the waiting room or what PPE was in use by whom etc So the individual patient is well taken care of Everyone else is on their ownuntil they develop disease and then the provider has guaranteed themselves many more individual patientjs Oversimplifying but with a large grain of truth In the US our docs receive just a few hours of public health instruction Whats that got to do with the patient The entire system is is oriented around individualistic caresometimes at the expense of everyone else As a public health professional we want to save everyone not just the individual patient That is population based healthThanks for the opportunity to rant a bit but for any docs please remember this lesson|1 Not sure I understand what you mean I just used the previous chart and a photo editing tool to make a rough version using the updated stats|0 Its insane how incompetent they are being seeing as my job has all high risk people we are supposed to take care of And there were three reports just the other day in my state|0 Yup I fully support the drivers here Im sure this is covered under section 44 need to check been discussed here a few times basically an employee can refuse work if they deem it unsafe I think these more to it though|1 our country was established on freedoms and wouldnt this set a precedentFreedom has limits in this country We know them as laws We frequently lock murderers up and no one says their freedom to murder is being infringed upon In this case COVID19 is a serial murderer that is accelerating its death rate It just so happens that the only practical way to ferret out the unknowing hosts and arrest their unintended murders is to detain everyone to be searched either by lockdown or by mass mandatory testing Unreasonable search and seizure is in the 4th amendment so the only question is At what point is the regional detainment of the population warranted It is not really a question of whether or not it is Constitutional BTW the 4th amendment rights of citizens has been defacto suspended ever since the Patriot Act was passed so this move could hardly be considered unprecedented on its principle only unprecedented on its scale|0 Because eldery People die faster when infacted|0 Its not at all thats absolutely foolish Its too late to stop allowing more sick people to come in and potentially spread infection Out of here with this|0 I too would like to know these numbersWe have very few barriers on our faces The immune system also doesnt help the 5 that need intensive care or die|1 The best person|1 What part of stay home as much as possible do people not understand IF you can stay home then stay the duck home if you cant then you cant the goal is to reduce the spread of the virus the more people out and about increases the spread For fucks sake|0 This is fantastic news After watching the parliamentary comments from Matt Hancock I didnt expect this to be so soon Thought wed squeeze the containment phase out until at least this weekend Hopefully this delay phase brings serious action|1 thats what we signed up for when we started working hereIs it a healthcare job at a hospital or perhaps paramedics or fire If so I guess I can kinda see the point Some jobs are riskier than others|0 Yes I think by the time the outbreak is recognizable from an epi perspective you are behind the curve on containment If they had been testing more extensively from the outset they may have been able to slow or even contain the spread As it is now we are still in a paradigm of guesswork to try to understand what the situation might be|1 This is probably a bad attempt to stop everyone with a cough phoning it in I guess|0 Yeah shes in the dementia unit good luck keeping her in her room she cant remember which one it is anyway and is regularly found in the wrong bed Its a stupid expensive home with an onsite chef ffs Shes happy there Ill give them that but Ive raised so many concerns with the family about their lack of observation shes not my relative though so its tough|0 So 2 weeks after 911 I took my family to Disney world and universal studios No one was there Definitely way under half of normal Yet the evening news while we were physically there observing reality showed video of packed parks and reported only a slight downturn in attendanceIve never trusted these reports since And dont know who to trust Trump after weeks of lies Definitely not For now Im looking to the CDC and Johns Hopkins|1 The highest percentage drop is not in the title though 2261 btw|0 echo chamberLiterally arguing that something that didnt happen should be said to have happened by people who know better just so that the person who almost kinda said it is punished in the court of social opinion properlyIm sorry but I hate Trumps lies and I hate lies against Trump and when I look at the two sides and see more lies against Trump than by him it makes me wonder what the fuck happened to this country Did we decide that Trump won because hes a liar and not solely because he was running against Killary so everybody else has to lie now too|0 My boyfriend also 29 had pneumonia last year aswell and he still has some sort of respiratory problem we are not really sure aboutThis thing is scary af Gladly we havent had any cases confirmed in our state yet south of Brazil but our neighboring state confirmed one todayUgh I wish science could work quicklier and give us all these answers |1 Good luck OP I believe that the virus might have spread already in most countries they only did not yet start to systematically test people|1 Well at the same time Musk has been revealed as a major GOP Super PAC donor Donating to the same party that denies climate change is real So for every ounce of good hes doing he does an ounce of harm on top of his misanthropic traits|1 Well if youre American you should hope they are wrong America and most seem to be shutting everything down early The UK isnt shutting enough down but we will see what ends up being most effective|1 Because we live in a country of spoiled brats who think nothing bad could ever happen to them|1 I would be down for that after all this is done I would personally love to see him hung out to dry like he has done with our people Take it on the chin Dont worry mate we will|1 hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha You people are so stuck in your bubble its funny to watch from the outside Like seriously Ill wage a bet that you think you are better than anyone who supports Donald Trump Am I right|1 Yup Our after school care is done by grandparents who are late 60s with underlying health issues Who also look after great grandparent in their 90s Not good|1 Or perhaps bias against China is skewing recognition of what they have been doing right|0 Im hoping the best for you both|1 Records of plague of seeming similar symptom sounds not so convincing DNA evidence would persuade me|0 Your comments get stranger and stranger Lay off the rakia you little edgelordhttpswwwodmporgA quick at this page shows you dont know what the fuck you are talking about|0 Its because Asian countries have experienced outbreaks such as SARS and already have a more prepared mentality whereas Western countries still have their heads in the sand and think this doesnt affect us This will be a massive wake up call that will certainly transform society Its very unfortunate that it has to take something like this to happen because the Coronavirus is certainly going to be on a much more larger and serious scale compared to the other virus outbreaks|1 I didnt say that there was a leftist party you can try and preclude yourself from being a hypocrite all you want but you probably are|1 And in Japan youre lucky to find out the city they live in from official sources Certainly nothing usable|1 Thanks again All fixed at least for the moment|1 No thanks The government has too much power as is it doesnt need more power Id rather have the option to choose to pay for services like healthcare not forced into it Its bad enough that the government takes a decent sum from every month Ill never vote bigger government|0 I agree with the other person he did a decent job today But hes done such a terrible job prior to today that any improvement looks good|1 You can be critical of both yknow The US administration is horrifically incompetent in nearly everything they do and this may very well lead to avoidable deaths The CCP trying to preserve their image and suppress their own suffering dying citizens is the reason this wasnt limited to Wuhan then wasnt limited to Hubei and now is not even limited to China The situation seems to be pretty much out of the control of any governing or administrative body on the planet at this point and whether or not it can be made manageable again remains to be seen|0 Thats a production problem were going to have to resolve unless we feel like putting service workers and those who must work in close quarters out of commission I agree that our frontline healthcare workers need them first but if we dont solve this shortage other segments of our economy are going to be hit hardPeople in close quarters thinking its no more harmful than the common cold and that masks dont work are going to be unnecessary casualties|0 Ramifications Theyre acting like this was a bad move Theyre so stupid|0 I am in the US and can do that it totally depends on where you work and in what type of job even more so I work for the state I have 14 paid sick and 14 paid vacation days No excuses needed no questions asked|0 Yes that sounds great Just gotta get them to report in over Teams or similar software|1 Make sure you buy plenty of ammo too Nothing on earth is more useless than a gun with no ammo|0 So Ive to prepare to say goodbye to my parents who despite their age are pretty cool and fun people to be around who are dearly loved who have grandchildren in the name of herdimmunityThis is antivax level nonsense Your parents are at risk and the only ways to stop them getting this disease is to either stamp it out globally not happening that ship has sailed or to build up herd immunity around them Why the ever living fuck did you put herd immunity in scare quotes You dont believe in it Help them keep isolated while the epidemic spreads through all the people who have a tickley cough No one wants you to have to say goodbye If we do this right the mortality rate will be well below 1 because we will be biasing the spread towards the least vulnerable|1 We welcomed them with open arms Its a big part of the economy here RIP|1 Bigly thank you for this chuckle I expect nothing less from him|1 Yeah just the flu bro as the largest quarantine in the history of humanity goes down all just year in year out kind of stuff|0 You think a government dealing with a pandemic on hand and a nation of 14 billion absolutley fucking terrified citizen will have half a shit what NYT thinks|0 The virus can exist for a protracted period of a few weeks Its favorite temperature is 41F 5C and medium humidity In temperatures lower than 41F it can last longer If a person becomes sick at home and is coughing the virus is likely on every surface they touched or were within 6 feet of Exactly everywhere in the home As its known to be present in bodily waste the bathrooms could hold higher concentrations of infectious materials Think it more likely they reinfected themselves from virus they brought into the home before becoming symptomatic There have been no reports of the virus mutating though the possibility can not be dismissed|0 Those numbers are so so many times higher than the burden caused by the flu|0 The guy is extremely smart he knows how to play Trump and he also knows that saving lives right now is the only thing that matters|1 Thats a pretty baseless extrapolation though Its so far in the future that the situation could change dramatically True exponential growth never occurs in nature theres always a limiting factor whether it be population size or human ingenuity for this virus Its much more likely therell be a slowdown then a dropoff as we take drastic quarantine and treatment measures|1 Kinda hoping this situation will make Americans see the light Oh and UK to|1 Coincidental that the Boomer meme started getting pushed real hard last November just in time for the virus release in December Have you always been contemptuous of people older than you even strangers on the internet you imagine are older than you There is a reason it is called programming|0 I mean thats great for Seattle but it would be really nice if the billionaires would help the rest of us as well|1 I feel so bad for those poor people|0 Yep everyone knows the company too i wont say much more about who it is but think postit notes|1 In general IMO its more for kids But thats just me and my opinion Its crazy to go there during the pandemic SMFH|0 Agreed TWO elementary schools in my area have at least one reported case each They have both scheduled an elearning day for today but not sure what theyre planning on doing permanently|0 The free market for private health insurance did optimize They optimized their profits thats why we pay double the per capita healthcare costs as any other modern nation|1 Basically the Wuhan municipal government is a bunch of incompetent retards with no regard to the seriousness of the situationedit typo|0 Thats because they literally are not even treating people over 65 because they are overwhelmed and have to decide who to treatIf the demographics were younger they would still have to decide who to treat|1 Are those really reasonable bounds If we throw away Chinas data which seems like a good counterfactual and invoke priors about SARS coronaviruses is there any reason to believe that the CFR will not be around 8|1 This fucking country is so stupidIts literally gonna kill me|0 If you want a positive spin on that think about the fact that they had basically zero technology science medicine and information compared to today but still survived it as a population If people made it through that under those conditions well make it through this|1 Media told us it was nothing a month ago so no one paid attention except for a few who put death and long incubation together and realised the horse bolted months ago|0 There was a strong flu strain in the fifties and we did stop SARS MERS ebola recently|0 Its as much on each country of the world for not being vigilant and having plans in place for these kinda of eventsChina drug its feet initially but it would be worse worldwide if they hadnt taken the actions they did|0 I really hope it works and will save many lives|1 He tested negative for the virus after his leg surgery|0 30000 more beds How mild are the symptoms if they require inpatient medical care Also theyre claiming there will be recreation areas like libraries and movie theaters Is the point of this to observe mild cases until they develop into more severe or critical cases This is all so very confusing|0 And I saw Breaking Bad if we ever get a vaccine we can count on those chicken places to efficiently distribute it for us am I right|0 Okay that makes sense My heart just goes out to the people who are so worried and still have to go into work here so close to where everything is happening Best thing is to work on the healthiest we possibly can be and do what is in our control|1 Stocks will drop more but Dont move your money though unless youre nearing retirement Get vitamin b1 and b2 Those can combat LDH inflammation if you get the virus No one is talking about that Buy food you will eat regardless of what happens Ive got 60 days of normal food and supplies plus another 6090 days of emergency bulk food rice beans flour salt sugar etcDont forget your pet food Dont forget spices Rice can be boring to eat plain Have prescriptions filledGet toilet paper and paper towels Grab a bottle of Clorox few bottles of rubbing alcohol and an empty spray bottle You can make your own disinfectant The important things Dont worry Anxiety weakens your immune system Expect quarantines in your area They are already happening Be honest with your kids They need to be aware but feel secure Wash your hands frequently Dont touch your face or rub your eyes or nose Make sure your kids know this too determine where your line in the sand is What is your trigger to say Im not going to school to church etc If you are being called crazy by your spouse do what you need to do to protect them Ive done all the prep work My wife thinks Im insaneYet here I sit confined to my own house under doctors orders because I am sick but tested negative for the flu or strep Get a pulseodometer off of amazon They are 17 via prime If your sick monitor your oxygen levels If it goes below 95 go to the er I could be wrong But I doubt it Our modeling has indicated we would hit 100K by March 6 We expect 1000 in the us by the 9th and 5000 by the 17th We think there are a lot more than thatBut there is no way to know until testing starts People keep saying the flu is worse The flu has a 01 fatality rate while this has a 34 rate Its not the death that is concerning We all die of something The issue is that if this is as bad as they are saying and you are in the 20 needing critical care there will be 2800 people waiting for every available ICU bedIts the collateral damage that is dangerous Protect your family from going into a critical state FEMA is not prepared for this Hospitals are not prepared for this 80 of people arent preparing for this Maybe Im wrong Worst case I dont have to buy groceries for a while But if Im right|0 We will be ok God willing we have been stocking up for a couple weeks now We havent stopped going outside but me and the kids are avoiding crowds mainly going on walks Until that is closed down NYC|0 Compared to what it has been in the past yes|1 Thank you for the information It is great to see a large group of people take an active role to make sure the whole stays healthy|1 They explained in detail why that wont work This virus it spreading It cannot be contained It will become endemic Everyone will be exposedThe countries that have taken the most brutal approaches are seeing improvementsThey are only delaying the inevitable No immunity exists so sooner or later they will continue to see outbreaks|0 Newborns are very susceptible to death by disease|0 They did not test as much as Italy Many cases are surely misdiagnosed as a bad flu|0 Tests are useful if you want to prevent or control an outbreak If you dont want to stop the infection then tests are useless you just treat the people in the worst condition and thats itDont know which is the American policy over this|1 Its tough It really is People look outside of themselves for guidance but often times they dont look too far away They look at their political leaders they look at the talking heads on their preferred news broadcast they look at their friends and coworkers Then they use that to make a conclusionx200BIf those places were for the most part until very very recently and some even to this day acting like this isnt a big deal I cant in good conscious blame that person I can get upset with their sources I can get upset with their education I can get upset with their apathy of insight but I cant be too upset with themx200BMy own father is in that category he thinks its a political hoax and I cant convince him otherwise He works in DC and I am very worried about him but Im not mad at him and I hope beyond hope that once this is over he is with us and we can heal together without I told you sosx200BYou take care|0 Great point All my kids eat at school and I eat at work We usually are ok the go on the weekend and eat outGoing from that to being stuck at home for weeks and trying to buy in bulk to minimize crowding grocery store it totally makes sense that shelves are emptyAlso grocery store dont have much stock locally|1 I hope he will share his 101 on how to deal with virus|1 Yes its incredibly difficult to get tested Two of my husbands employees were because theyd just come back from a vacation in Italy They both tested positive Now my husband is sick with several of the symptoms and was told he doesnt qualify for testing and to quarantine himself|1 Srsly this is all you care about stupid people You fu iphones|0 Quarantine is not about care it is to stop spread They assume you have it or will have it so you become a statistic|0 Just the actors playing dead is creepy enough to prevent a rewatch That movie is far more an educational tool than something Id watch on a whim|0 Regular earned sick time lolIf you get sick in Europe most of it at least your sick ass stays home This is known as a public health system Your boss might not like it but the State would rather one person stay at home than infect the office the people on public transit the people at the store the teachers at school|0 That was just me talking shit So I guess Im the source 100 not factualBut there was an article over the weekend about a shipment of fake tests intercepted in LAX a couple days ago|0 And Trudeau was shaking hands with Iranian officials in Iran during the outbreak one of the guys who shock hands with him died a few weeks later We knew enough to put restrictions on flights from hotspots months ago I wouldnt be surprised if it was Justin that infected his wife himself|0 It has a lot to do with the treatment he received which I doubt many others have gotten Look it up they went all out for his treatment methods|0 As far as resurgences I think thats very likely My family and I were more sick than weve ever been a week ago We kept thinking we were better went on with our usual activities while self isolating and then whatever we had would knock us flat on our backs I dont think it can be overestimated how long it can take your body to fight something serious like this|0 By in town I meant my town sorry I am not in your area x200BMy daughter heard about it at school an older man with asthma The schools are closed until Monday we will see then and are discussing pulling our kids out x200BMy husband talked to some people at a local store where a woman was symptomatic and sent to the hospital x200BHe first told me that the reports of two people infected may have been one person reported from different sources A woman and man sounds like 2 diff people but things do get messed up in the rumor mill If the woman had tested positive there would be people from the store in quarantine We will be hearing more soon x200Btip Use gloves when handling money It can live on surfaces for some time and money changes hands a lot especially small bills|1 Yah about early Feb since the flight ban was on 131|0 That legitimately brightened up my day|1 I live near Charlotte NC Didnt get to make it to that one but I heard traffic was backed up for miles Also heard Tool lost some fans that day|0 If we got a care package in the US from our govt we would have people crying and complaing they didnt get vegan or gluten free stuff lol|1 People believe quarantine will work this late in the game Now people are trusting the CDC again lol|1 Dude I have a friend in Dalian who is in mandatory wfh since january|1 Hes working to support you and your children thats a reason to leave someone ummmm ok If hes taking proper precaution washing hands ect it should be fine if your unhappy dont blame the virus |1 Better charge than not using the technology at all Let the media and public outcry shame them afterwards|0 Not true|0 Thats right just breath in and breathe out Visit your country way back in the 1980s on business Fantastic people both countries Welcoming friendly Beach sand like gold with blue waters forever i have fancied going back one day but thats on hold for a bit I suspect You all take good care of Mr Mrs Hanks as they are a class act back her in a clueless and classless new Merica Peace|1 THIS Plus absolutely no measures whatsoever have been taken when the outbreak in China started Noone stocked up on supplies facial masks disinfectant The hospital where I work has now made the throwaway onetimeuse masks permanent itemsmeaning you get that ONE mask for your shiftbullshit We are down to 200 pcs for a medium sized hospital Complete and UDDER BS Even when I told them to stock up on these things 6 weeks ago ok should elaboratewe test everyone and their mum if only the slightest hint appears This Flu season will be the worst everwe detect sooo many cases now it is always cotested as the flu is still 1000x more likely|0 I grew up with doctors and scientists in my immediate family I know how viruss work You are not a medical professional Try the big words on someone else Your a mechanic Not a doctor Shoo Spread your shit elsewherePs medical and scientific personnel would never do maybes and ifs They deal in straight facts They ask a question and then using proven methods prove it correct or prove it wrong You may have read a lot of scientific information and are able to regurgitate it on others and make it sound plausible but You learned a new word learned some things but by no means are you even qualified to dessimate any reasonable information as soon as you said mayYou are what the WHO and medical community are calling infodemic spreaders You do not have any qualifications to speak So shut up and stay in your corner|0 The literature for self isolation that is for public usage I have shared above My one that I have in print has a number to call for test results specifically so I did not share that|0 one of the proper methods to compute CFR during an outbreak is to divide deaths during a period by the number of deaths plus recoveries of a periodThat doesnt seem very difficult to grasp I mean Im not an epidemiologist and I went for this immediatelyhttpsoldredditcomreuropecommentsf76nyyukraineviolentclashesaslocalshurlstonesatfibf1djcontext3 as the figure to go for The game isnt over till its over Only problem I saw with this is that the recovered figure could be uncertain due to undiagnosed cases with mild or no symptoms So Im not sure if there arent actually many more recoveries because of that As with murders in crime statistics the death figures seem quite firm because dead bodies are kind of difficult to ignore both for law enforcement and medical staff respectivelyLove your user name BTW It is way coolaside from giving me migraines that is|0 I know for sure that ill go bankrupt after a single month of not working I run my own business but i follow a strategy of reinvesting all the gains so i dont pay myself that much money Which makes this super dangerous for my own existence and may bankrupt me after less than a month|0 YeahGood luck with thatOhahhh9 people at the deli counter 17 people at the food courtGod knows how many st the basketball gameohyeahI neglected to get all their names|0 Ones you couldnt breathe through Even the best printers in the world dont have the resolution necessary for that Plus the nonwovens needed for masks can be made by the mile ita cutting them shaping them and distributing them that takes time|1 Day 3 of the flu for me Its probably on me|0 Much ado about nothing Given how long they thought about this I personally expected something different COVID19 seems like something they could have come up with over breakfast|1 I teach in an SENPRU combo school and between the full moon last week and Coronavirus its been mental The kids are all trying to drink hand sanitiser because they think itll make them drunk Some kids have parents with special needs too and with the neglect the suffer dont even have minimum hygiene so I truly worry for them|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 That would be fantastic You dont have to literally film a whole day just the most important partsthoughts feelings If you could send it to me afterwards I would appreciate that so much|1 The amount of love in this comment is almost palpable Best wishes|1 They dont care I was on the infected cruise ship and now sick I drove uber until I was notified of Covid19 contact and I tried to let uber know to protect those pax but they have ignored me Im going on CNN to blow the whistle on Uber|0 Very much We are experiencing history right now wether we like it or not|1 Or go to Taiwan Both are doing well in containing this|1 Lets hope not and not act like millions of people are beyond help The CCP sucks but giving up so many of their own would be stupid|0 How we looking boys Are we feeling the pinchhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfiqurjwashingtoncoronavirusdeathcounthits40amongutmmediumandroidapputmsourceshare yet|1 Soon we need new country names WuSA Wumany Wutalia Looks like those Bilderberg guys decided to reduce population in favour of the retirement and healthcare systems Savings with all the old sick and poor dying would be enormous Dont have any other explanation anymore I know it sounds oddps Thanks a lot for the comments Below cheeruphumanity virora have really good points Basically I would share the idea that a mix of incompetency of people in power and economic brainwash is sufficient for having created the current situation and it doesnt need a conspiracy|1 rich powerful self isolating heading to bunker while no one is looking|1 Thank you|1 Couldnt agree more Cant believe the absolute state of our government My partner and I looked out of the window this morning and the rush hour traffic is out there same as always It is insane People are not taking this seriously Well unless youre somewhere special in the country footfall and traffic across most if not all towncity centres has dropped quite significantly You just may not have noticed there are way less people|0 I dont even understand the lysol wipes thing All you need is bleach water and a rag Yes the Lysol wipes are easier but they are not a essential|1 In another thread I was reading a plumber mentioned that it isnt completely uncommon for a misinstalled bidet attachment to completely flood an area The apartment complex likely has their nobidet policy as a result of experienced maintenance staff If any water damage happens to their property the tenant might be liable for the costs|0 99 certain this is fake There are a ton of factual errors in the text and the figures are vague enough to be lifted from elsewhere or just completely falsified It reads like it was written by someone with an 8th grade biology background Bottom line be critical of cures before any reputable sources are sharing data|0 This is am overlooked fact in epidemic situations health care workers work 20 hours days sleep on couches eat poorly and irregularily and thus become more likely to have poor outcomes based on exhausted immune systems|0 Worth a try|1 Very jealous here from Sweden I dont know why our government is so stubborn and acts suicidal Had a serious discussion with my partner yesterday and perhaps wed move to Denmark in the long term|0 You are correct All that goes for r coronavirusThat is where they focus their propaganda effortsThis sub is too small for them to worry about yet|0 Well in my experiences in Winnipeg emergency rooms there are usually prioritized based on severity of the issue Its like that here in the states too but to a different degree My FIL has nearly died several times obviously they escalated him to ER he always went by car used to refuse to call ambulances but he recently has been going back by ambulance and they confirm youre not dying and he waits for 68 hours sometimes even though they know his medical history and hes pretty old Not arguing Im pro socialized healthcare all the way live in US But there can be tradeoffs which I fully believe are worth it as I believe everyone deserves free healthcare One thing they do post their wait times online so you can pick from a variety of good hospitals Edit Oh and critical care hospital rooms are in groups usually 57 people sorted by aliment sometimes more or less ICU is in large rooms with a spread of people Longterm stay rooms 34 Families visit usually only allowed in 2 at a time most do not stay over or have that option though some sleep on the couches in the waiting area for each type of recovery roomI hurt my back badly badly in Winnipeg visiting and I knew I needed an MRI I could have gone to the ER but I knew they wouldnt do an MRI the wait time can be monthssss I stayed in bed for the rest of the trip and recovered enough to stand the car ride Crushed my L5S1 disc|0 Why did the CDC stop reporting testing numbersWhat is the cost of getting tested|0 I have read a decent amount about this subject as I have remetophobia and so I have obsessively read about NorovirusSome of my theories on why viruses work better in the cold1 Not as much rain to wash away viruses and dirt containing the viruses from sidewalks Peoples shoes are also not as likely to come into contact with flowingfresh rain water which naturally helps to clean off shoes a lot of germs enter your home through your shoes so take them off2 People stay inside more often which means more people are more likely to breath the same air and touch the same objects3 Immune systems may be comprimised in winter due to less sunlight change in diet and less physical activity4 Lower temperatures help viruses to live longer outside of a host your bodyI could be totally wrong about all this but thats my anedotal opinion|1 I watched our developer build the neighbors house from ground up including digging and connecting infrastructure in about 2 months Seemed like himself and only a handful of guys Give them the crew and you could knock it out pretty fast IMO When I did landscape construction roofing drywall I became pretty amazed at how much a few guys likely hung over and stoned could do Add more bodies and seriousness to it easy|1 for every greedy hoarder theres someone putting themselves at risk to help others|0 To a basketball team owner thats like his race horse Of course hes going to take care of his horse|1 Fuck damnit I blame the airlines for not taking the initiative of shutting down before the government asked them to They should have set a date and closed house What did they do instead Lowered prices and practically begged people to fly for what Some chump change Thats fucked up|0 Its why Europe is having the same problem|0 Well|1 Nah thats what it is affectionately called by people who have experienced it It is a real shit hole|0 you should blacklist most products you are using in your life and most likely live like hermit in the woods if you research a little bit better then you will realize that your comfort in everyday live is above of your morality so just stop being two faced|1 Come on down to Uncle Touchys Naked Puzzle Basement You wont wear a shirt and youll cry|0 I mean this is Reddit after all whining is sort of the prerogative|0 Smart keep prices low so the first person who needs water buys all of it and there isnt any left for anyone else|1 Its their fault they are homeless Be a man and take care of yourself|1 The kid who got an autograph tested positive it does not confirm he got it from the player though|1 Big if flu|0 If you dont test them you cant count them Simple as that If you think that this Admin wants to know how many are actually infected Ive got news for you|0 if you are right and if there are people dying in hundreds per day as this one was just one hospital then this is very scary|0 What Im proposing is suspend mortgages now and lets figure out rent suspension afterwards Eviction takes time anyways We also should make EI immediately available rather than the delay period so that we dont run into this problemAlternatively we can take the example of UBI and do an emergency version of it immediately Give every citizen over the age of 18 10002000 for the next month Thats not gonna fix everything but itll fix a lot of the problems and help stimulate the economy a common tactic for handling recessions|0 that is the burden of being on the front line nurses are underpaidunderappreciated but directly save more lives than doctors bc always on the floor and hands on Thank you for your service|1 Sorry that was a typo meant to write unbased|0 Not the same price as a cell phone no But I get your point Im East Coast Canadian so yeah I know what the basement of a house looks like because we used to get snowed in every winter and needed supplies Here in Singapore Ive no idea where people would put 800kg of supplies in a 1000 square foot apartment|1 Yep guy was upset about this because that trip is all bought and paid for|0 httpscrofsblogstypepadcomh5n1202002moreonthecovid19caseinnortherncaliforniahtmlhttpscrofsblogstypepadcomh5n1202002moreonthecovid19caseinnortherncaliforniahtml The UC Davis Medical Center is treating a patient who may be the first person in the country to have contracted the novel coronavirus COVID19 from community exposure The California Department of Public Health reported Wednesday the individual is a resident of Solano County who had no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual An email sent out Wednesday by two UC Davis officials said the patient arrived at the medical center in Sacramento last Wednesday but was only tested for the virus on Sunday despite a request made by med center officials that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conduct a test when the patient was admitted Today the CDC confirmed the patients test was positive said the email from David Lubarsky vicechancellor of human health services and Brad Simmons interim CEO of UC Davis Medical Center This is not the first COVID19 patient we have treated and because of the precautions we have had in place since this patients arrival we believe there has been minimal potential for exposure here at UC Davis Medical Center the email said Nevertheless a small number of medical center employees have been asked to stay home and monitor their temperatures Lubarsky and Simmons said the patient was transferred to UC Davis from another Northern California hospital on Wednesday Feb 19 When the patient arrived the patient had already been intubated was on a ventilator and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition the email said Since the patient arrived with a suspected viral infection our care teams have been taking the proper infection prevention precautions during the patients stay Upon admission our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID19 We requested COVID19 testing by the CDC since neither Sacramento County nor the California Department of Public Health is doing testing for coronavirus at this time Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID19 a test was not immediately administered said the email which added that UC Davis Health does not control the testing process On Sunday the CDC ordered COVID19 testing of the patient and the patient was put on airborne precautions and strict contact precautions The positive test results were announced on Wednesday|1 From what I remember in another Reddit post its not illegal but censored Not Japanese pixelated censored but it has to be approved porn meaning theres literally a job to review porn in China|1 Different strain maybe|0 Edit ok different scenarios has different recommendations I have deleted my comment|1 Theyre already preparing their propaganda machine to blame further infections on foreigners|0 Please cover your mouth when you yawn You could kill someone Thats what I mean Its changing our behaviour It has to there is no choice I dont want death for anyone thats not my point The democtratic capitalistic system is failing us it has been for awhile now The Pandemic is just the trigger that will speed up the process|0 Happy cake day|1 Really How did this age I knew it was gonna be bad globally|0 Its better than a huge hospital bill and a gravestone|1 They should start using a shotgun microphone and stand 30 feet apart It would play out like a Monty Python sketch|1 We should give our children more credit I think they understand much more then we give them credit for|1 Dont be an idiot vitamin C doesnt help If youre immunocompromised and you get this you will need medical care no matter how good you eat stay hydrated or sleep or god knows what vitamins That wont help you gain an immune system out of thin airI literally never claimed youll gain an immune system from one vitamin Youve missed the point entirely The implication that youll get treatment and be fine so long as a ventilator is available is not supported by the facts at allIm allergic to many antibiotics Since childhood Ive had to be extremely vigilant with infections because the treatments available if I get something like bacterial pneumonia are limited for me Literally every doctor Ive had has advised me to take vitamins including C in addition to a healthy diet lots of fluids plenty of rest and so on I also have asthma which is another reason respiratory infections are particularly worrisomeSo fuck me for being an idiot and following doctors advice huh Its not a cure and I never claimed anything of the sort Meanwhile youre implying a bit of treatment and a ventilator is going to save the immune compromised|1 Its been raging there for only 2 weeks but it takes 28 weeks to die Thats why|0 Im on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi and things are tense but nobody seems to say aloud that they are worried The state officials are woefully supplied both physically and intellectually and we still have the Confederate flag on our state flag So yea this place is still the same dumpster fire just not as bad as during slavery and Jim Crow|0 Actually according to Harvard many people wont display symptoms There are 4 categories of severity And a very low fatality rate For those under 50 The calculation is backwards|0 It lacks a lot of the hallmarks of a human modified virus It also doesnt behave like a bioweapon would|0 death rate is low bc 40 tested were in 20s and of that 40 70 were female Just read in daily report from Daegu|0 Damn that growth is scary|0 Ive just checked your history It seems youre an expert of sorts perhaps a scholar on topics such as viruses climate and politics Death camps in the US martial law in Poland Did you glue your tin foil hat to your head permantenly or did you just forget to take your fucking meds|0 Mainland Chinese are well known to take medicine to lower their body temp to make it past airport screenings and lie about their travel history There have already been multiple cases of Wuhan coronavirus infected individuals hiding their symptoms in order to be able to travel|0 Give me five and Ill leave you alone forever Bernie|0 The commas make Poland like a nonrestrictive clause modifying microstates rather than a member of a list But you only have two items in your list so you should have just said and No need for either semicolons or commas|1 I work in long term care currently at work with a temperature of 1007 and rising And they wont let me leave I love being a nurse but damn They dont give af about us or the patients|1 Make up become used to win it|1 Thanks I just got some Guaifenesin last night and will grab some Tylenol and cough suppressants today|1 This articlehttpswwwnytimescom20200302healthcoronavirustestingcdchtml has the best description of the course of events in my opinion|1 My guess is that the smokers getting virus from touching cigarette butt when took cigarette out of the box and put in their mouths In this case smokers have higher chance to get infected|0 Good move on paying Canadian taxes As an american I lived in Onayatio for 6 years I paid the EXACT same amount in taxes up there as I did in the US And I got my gal bladder out for free And it wasnt an emergency How can you stand to work in our healthcare system knowing what Canada does|1 Man those Uighurs are probably completely fucked now|0 Its like work breathing through some of those things for more than 10 minutes|1 You really dont have to convince me that COVID19 is a overwhelming problem that will absolutely stretch and likely exceed the ability of our healthcare system and democratic society to respond But top journals are releasing high quality research that actually answers the questions we have about this disease instead of making some random guesswork look like a magic cureall I really hope the evidence actually supports the use of this drug and we can throw our entire collective energy into manufacturing and distributing it but there is serious danger in peddling unproven cures waste of precious resources and time from healthcare providers false hope and despair when it doesnt pan out a sense of complacency that can lead to higher infections not to mention potential unnecessary side effectsSo honestly it doesnt matter what we random internet people think This is a decision for doctors and epidemiologists And you cant convince me that they arent out there absolutely busting their asses to find drugs that will help people Until there are reputable voices calling for the use of this medication I think you need to chill out on the snake oil|1 But young people were also needing ICU care you most likely have a lower chance of needing it but it doesnt mean it isnt happening There is a 30 or 40 year old medical worker here in the hospital who is in serious condition Who knows how many she infected as she treated them whats even worse is they dont make any information public because of hippa This is going to be blowing up in every major metro area in the US in the next 2 weeks just like Italy I really hope Im wrong but from everything Im seeing it doesnt give me much hope|0 If you boil salt water in a pan you will see little white crystals around the outside of it The loss of salt is minimal and not suspended for a long period of time but its there I did this with my oldest before we had a nebulizer It works well enough for an at home breathing treatment if you need one|1 Im in Dalian in north east chinaWe also have a similar lockdown There are temperature checks when entering the subway office buildings mall office buildings and my residential areaI went to my office to pick some things up yesterday and my temperature was checked 5 times No one used an old fashioned inear thermometer everyone used a digital thermometer that takes readings without any contact They normally measure the wrist or forehead Otherwise similar situation here One gate is open deliveries piling up outside Ordering groceries online for delivery still works but you have to order early on to morning or else they are fully booked for the dayWork here also starts on 10th officially but Ive heard of many people who will work from home until March so hopefully the situation remains similar as today|1 Funny how youd say 23 days Whenever I want to quit weed which I smoke with tobacco its always impossible to sleep for the first 3 or 4 days and after that its just normal and Im over it|1 29 is simply ridiculous|0 Dont forget that 80 of the meds or raw materials for prescription drugs come from China including those for treating this disease|1 Tell that to the flu vaccine that has to be remade every year and still only has a 30 effectiveness We cannot count on a vaccine to save us|1 Spanish Flu infected roughly a third of the population in a time when global travel took much less time and was much harderGood luck and Godspeed|0 Yeah some bull shit Burke saying 1 of tests will be positive|1 Italy has been through this before and they will make it through this time Being a crossroads for global trade for the last 2000 yrs they have seen many a plague and their culture survived and prospered|1 As a teacher i agree and i hope that happens soon but i also feel like we shouldnt be forced to risk our own lives and health to be babysitters Many teachers are older or have underlying health conditions and they should go home first but everyone is at risk particularly now that thr virus has been allowed to spread freely across schools and i dont want to die because of poor decision making by the government Everyone is asked to social distance EXCEPT US and essential services and retail workers|1 You should pick yourself up some reusable face masks Ive been able to find a few in smaller mom and pop stores At least this way you can keep yourself protected|1 Yeah I saw this post and was like this is 100 reasonable|1 Id ask where we should show up to protest but I dont want to be in a large crowd Guess Im calling my representatives tomorrow|0 You seem like one of those types that would love to see this virus destroy the country just to get Trump out|1 httpswwwgooglecomampswwwnytimescom20200229healthcoronavirusfluamphtml3f0p19G0038About 1 for the flu most years|0 Yep I feel like all the cashiers are being replaced with robots in the coming months I feel like a lot of jobs that can be automated will be switched over by the time were out of this |1 What exactly is a state of emergency and how will it effect our daily lives|0 70 wont get it and the death rate isnt 7 Old people increase the early death toll in all these countries Italy has a fuckload of oldies You people just want this to be like a movie so youre convincing yourselves its as bad as a Hollywood flick No more than 100k will die book it|0 because we are the type of country that doesnt spend any money until there is an absolute catastrophe Then as soon as its over we stop putting any money into it so that were not prepared next time either It cost twice as much and it works half as well|0 Not sure what you tried to communicate here|0 Infection rates in South Korea have been falling recently likely as a result of better testing and quarantining|1 he might be 53 but his heart is huge |1 As long as things are going normally people are working on the vaccine You might think that they would anyway but not really the case Even researchers have to get to work by way of Starbucks Quarantine makes everything much much slower If manufacturing stops 1 vial of vaccine doesnt do anyone any good Well except for the person holding it|1 Thats a fair point|1 HERESYMothers love will cure all Yes mother|1 Glad to hear|1 Im really glad that my employer ordered the production guys to make multiple batches of hand sanitizer bottle the stuff and pretty much ordered me to make sure its distributed among all employees Not that there was much resistance from anybody but it made an impactThere are good employers out there They are rare but they exist|1 If the containment isnt an option for other countries then locking down borders for 6 weeks wont be a solution what do you do after these 6 weeks The other countries will be infected so youll either have to lock down borders for years or youll have to tackle the disease anyway|0 dont downplay your contribution every bit helps|1 Amazing man Hats off to his selflessness|1 Cuz everyone is locked inside or dead|0 Im surprised theyre allowed to shut off someones water Here in NY theyll send you to collections but theyll never shut off your water because its a quality of life issue|1 Unprepared and WILLFULLY dense Our leaders are so arrogant and pompous with their heads up their ass Selling us out to keep the economy going makes it even more sinister|0 To be honest thats what I will probably do Im in NYC and cant imagine literally not leaving my small apartment for 14 days and getting everything delivered They had the same problem in China How did they solve it They took everyone entire families in quarantine sick or not and threw them into camps with nearzero medical care and in close contact with legitimate cases Guess what happened to those people They caught COVID19 and died or are still there If people like you cannot do your civic duty youll eventually find yourself begging to be allowed a second chance to selfisolate You probably wont get it|1 Thats a pretty fucking easy choice Financial gains or the lives of humans Uhdurr|1 No The ventilator is life support It is breathing for you|1 People in the modern world live very sheltered lives They believe the government will always save them Reality is life can get very difficult and very cruel very quickly People are insane and deserve what they get if they go to China now|0 And cancelpostpone the election due to the public health hazard Wouldnt even surprise me at this point|0 There hasnt passed enough time to know the outcome for sure of even the earliest international cases yet|1 No youre completely right Were going to have this virus Theyre trying to make it so we dont have the virus and a huge depression|0 We need to fight back now before its too late against the CCP|0 Good job Mike you finally learned to read what everyone was already sayingmy God we are in trouble|1 You know what makes this worse imagine the next pandemic has a 20 mortality rate and an R0 of 7 Will this apathy even then still occur How bad does something have to get for people to take it serious|0 In the absence of proper testing the only way to check so called confirmed infections is to use the death rate to work it outBased on the figures from 2 days ago that will be 55211142 which would make it roughly 2800 The government is announcing confirmed figures of 1543 and the expect intelligent people to accept their drivel|1 Sounds like how I felt after my first dance with Fireball Oof|1 The irony of those elderly most likely to have voted for the charlatans will now be the ones most likely to die|0 Im coping as best as I can Ive come to accept that my family and my immediate relatives are going to basically be on lock down and those of us leaving the home are doing the best we can to do WFH Were having more food delivered today Its a nightmare but at least Im not entirely alone|1 Looking at the 41 that were in the Lancet study I noticed most of those people did not seek early treatment They probably just thought it was the flu This would affect outcomes|0 Mine was removed because of cancer It was over twenty years ago and as far as I can tell Ive had no ill effects but from what I have read it does affect the immune response somewhat I feel a bit better as I found out today that the thymus is not that critical for T cell production throughout adulthood maximally 30and on average only 11of the naive T cell pool was originally formed by the thymus In line with this we found that in adults as many as 77 of CD31 naive CD4 T cells were in fact formed by peripheral T cell prolif eration This is from httpswwwcellcomimmunitypdfS1074761312000556pdf|0 Be thankful that you had the chance to do it Panic buying when theres a SNOWPOCALYPSE ie its going to snow around here is crappy cant even imagine what it would be like it they find a few cases in the local area|1 Some of the academics Ive been following have suggested that closely watching Singapore which is a lot more transparent about its numbers may give a better picture of the early days of it taking hold On the upside I did read but lack the source right now that apparently Singapore has roughly the same number of annual air arrivals from China as the US does So that could help with comps relative to the US On the downside Singapore has a lot more compliant society and they have been very responsive to government measures to wear masks and report etc So that may or may not be applicable to USCanada when modeling Hard to know how quickly people will adjust to government suggestions in that regard|1 Its generally easier to practice social distancing in rural areas however I live in a rural area and just by the nature of distance from stores people tend to naturally stock up on two weeks to a months worth of supplies at a time minimizing trips into town and close interaction with groups more than a few people are pretty minimal normally and even less now with most gatherings kept small and outdoors|1 Wow thats a shame Super sad indeed|1 Youre required to give up your privacy anyway when you fly There is zero expectation of privacy especially when you fly international Furthermore CBP is moving to 100 facial recognition for United States citizens for reentry into United States in the next five years The concept of privacy in a country that has zero privacy protections for its citizens is a joke|1 The us has to do all those things but they arent Thats not a good look bud Neither are the ignorant Americans online bragging about it|1 Im surprised it hadnt happened sooner|1 Every lie told incurs a debt to the truth|0 Has it spread much H2H in the city That would be worrying|0 You been on Reddit lately There are tons of people demanding Chinastyle martial law and praising Chinas heavy handedness with censorship|1 IIRC something like 8090 of all black market fentanyl comes from China whether it starts out on the black market or starts out legitimate its actually prescribed in some cases and ends up on the black market|1 Thank you|1 The dumbest thing is that long term the economy is better off if this doesnt spread I find it hard to believe that the short term benefits of having people continue to go shopping outweighs the long term risks of this continuing to spread|0 Only the Americans with Trump Derangement Syndrome TDS caused by massive consumption of fake news CNN NBC reddit homepage|0 in most places they dont Whats your point This is horrible no matter which way you cut it|0 Its funny that this has more upvotes than the petition has signatures|1 Your job doesnt let you at the least stay home without pay Im lucky that I have sick hours galore and plenty of PTO built up if it came to that but I could also just not go in and go without pay|0 SPEAKING TRUTH BITES YEAH GO TELL THIS SHIT TO GOVT WHO FAILED TO TAKE PROACTIVE MEASURES RATHER THAN STFU ME|0 Many Americans dont like going to the doctor Even fewer over a cold And when you go to the doctor you rarely get more than a few meds and discharged I had walking pneumonia what ever that is and they gave me antibiotics and some cough syrup and sent me on my way This was a few years ago High probability that a lot of people who might have it wont get tested or wont even seek medical care|1 The good until they announce that alot more people have died due to pneumonia the virus seems to be milder than we thought Similar to GermanyThe bad WHOLE FCKING JAPAN IS PROBABLY INFECTED BY NOW|0 I just meant from this years strain I know viruses shift and change and if Corona comes back next year or a few years it will be different enough to get again like the flu But if I had it now recovered in a week or two would I be safe for the season or year I understand this might not be something that is known with certainty at the moment I just might have it now Im wondering if Ill be safe from it when after I recover Granted it is Corona and not just the flu|1 Exactly Which is why Im hoping the NHS has bought them They at least have trained people and service staff that can get them working properly Used to be a medical buyer for them a life time ago God help anyone who thinks they can just run one at home|1 That is true but the same can be said about the coronavirus|1 smart move this is unfortunate|0 Like how that chinese minister is saying the US military are responsible wait till you see the propaganda machine in full tilt before voting Anti globalization blame china and the EU will be played non stop Trump supporters will bury all reason with their own reality These people have went all in a long time ago Like with 911 if the dems get in they are going to deal the dumpster fire left by republicans|1 Yeah I guess Im not saying this story is fake there is just a lot of conflicting information and Im trying to figure it all out|0 Haha agreed|1 good luck LAers |1 the good news flair on this lol|1 Big Hit had originally envisioned a hip hop group and then changed tactics and developed them as an idol group So to me when they say theyre BTS pop they mean in terms of having their own BTS style Because theyve never denied being an idol group Heres a really interesting youtube about kpop if you have some time The whole manufactured thing is really unfair to all of them Edit its exactly as you say the American music industry isnt less manufacturedhttpsmyoutubecomwatchvbn0gmumosfeatureyoutube|1 Thats fucking disgusting|0 Virus and health a side I wouldnt chance being outside of my own country on the midst of the world announcing the magical Pandemic word It will have some consequences no doubt I cant personally tell you what theyd be for travel though|0 Amoy Gardens had them but the ones protecting floor drains dried outThis news article suggests to me that they added trap primers to keep the floor drain traps sealed the water pipes installed on the outside wall would supply a constant water flow to prevent the drains and pipes from drying uphttpswwwscmpcomarticle443364amoygardensbefittedantisarsdrainagesystem|0 Japanese disease control really really screwed up the quarantine and just let that virus run wild on that shipProbably any further quarantine on the Diamond Princess would have been useless and youd sooner get back to your life if you caught the virus and received treatment rather than wait aboard the ship while everyone slowly gets infected|0 And tesla is what we considerd fast and yhry have no shortage in capitol|0 Lmao|1 As you shouldTheyve been the most reliable consistent uptodate news source covering the virusIt has almost reached the point where you dont know if some reports are legit until BNO tweets about it lmao|1 Well as a saudi we pack our selfs in mosques Also the government sends daily texts about corona and reminding us to wash our hands Also also we had a couple of corona cases back in 2015|1 Our dumbdumb Premier in Ontario did the same thing Told everyone Go fly go travel for March break Have a good time no one should worry within the week we had the news for Canadians told to come home now while they canx200BNo apology or even acknowledgement of how much he mislead people and contributed to this problem|0 Yes the European experts are morons Okay Youre tje geniusIts easy to complain|1 China has nukes Theres next to no chance of a war|0 Good point But if they infected you or someone you loved|1 Why dont you send some fucking test kits out Fucking morons|0 I guess thats nice but seems weird and a little off to me Just pay the damn workers|0 True unfortunately|1 Thank you yeah Im not going over there anymore Fear doesnt do well when mixed with a wandering mind Im already very cautious of sick people and cleaning my hands so I think Im good on that frontIm taking a break from COVID news I think Just taking a moment to mindlessly chat with a friend and eat something is already making me feel loads better I appreciate the offer Tbh I never know what to say when people offer to talk feelings out so I hope thats not offensive to you|1 This coronavirus is not SARS its not MERS and its not influenza It is a unique virus with unique characteristics Tedros saidTedros said both COVID19 and influenza cause respiratory disease and spread the same way but COVID19 does not transmit as efficiently as the flu People with the flu but who are not yet sick are major drivers of transmission which does not appear to be the case for COVID19COVID19 also causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza as there are not yet any vaccines or therapeutics but Tedros noted it can be contained unlike the flux200BLinkhttpsthehillcomchangingamericawellbeingpreventioncures485770whocoronavirusmoredeadlythanflubutcanbe|0 This self isolation if one does it with right formalities means official sick leave|0 Recommend you watch 28 weeks later and put things in perspective|1 Chinese infrastructure already has major problems Having a major problem in a hospital loaded out with thousands of infected patients is dire|0 Not a doctor but I think that is in reference to intubation being a relatively violent process and just being on a ventilator can cause pneumonia of its own|0 My friend works for a cruise company and they are not giving refunds Its terrible because some people really want to cancel but they could face anywhere from 5005000 loss I know everyone on this sub understands this virus should be taken seriously But a lot of people out there think its an overreaction and would never cancel their trip or dont realize until its too late|0 50 Im relieved that in the UK we have a huge 800 beds ready to go|1 Summary execution would stop this type of shit|0 I have a feeling Bey Jay Elon and a few others are outta here Remote island probably as the space thing isnt ready yet Maybe I put too much thought into their lyrics lol|1 Praying for ya from australia|1 I know gwinnett county has it I am from there It happened a lot last year I only know bc I have a lot of friends with kids now in school there|1 Im working on a website that will help businesses raise funds for employees Im hoping to launch it tomorrow|1 Exponential growth is scary stuff|0 Thanks for the context take my upvote it helps to know thatThe info in the ITV article is disturbing but is very similar to various other reports and interviews from northern Italy 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ReminderhttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectRemindermessageyourmessage0A0Akminder20timeortimefromnow Your RemindershttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectList20Of20RemindersmessagelistReminders21 QuestionshttpsredditcommessagecomposetoremindditbotsubjectFeedback2120Reminder20from20GreyKit|1 I am not even in China but your news report brought me to tears Thanks for sharing|1 Most of the cases need 2 weeks or so to get bad|0 Could you make one that says keep calm and die|0 And add ominous music lol|1 A 6 month old cant scuba dive Well safelyGotta have someone to watch them for some activities Theres also activities during the day shows etc where a kid isnt always welcome But hey maybe your right that people are shitty parents if they dont spend 100 of their free time with their kids and moms who work and put kids into daycare are shitty moms s|0 And to think I left the military because I no longer wanted to take part in wars|0 There is no place for price gouging on Amazon the company said in an emailed statement Yet I see price gouging all the time especially on Amazon Canada but I guess were used to getting fleeced here I remember seeing a gallon jug of molasses for 900 or something Like who puts up these crazy listings Lots of other examples on there|1 If they knew they would But too much people put their faith in their government Without even knowing it because ironically in my country theyre shouting all year that nothings good but when a threat appears nooooo our government is the best and itll handle it like no one elseThats what every government said when COVID19 appeared on their territory|1 Neither was withholding a Supreme Court appointment|0 Hahaha love it|1 Plague Inc is making a publicity stunt just calm down|1 We do Thats what were trying to do now but we lost valuable time waiting for federal government New York has their own tests and they finally got the OK to use themRegardless of how bad the advice was about the virus from the top American people have pushed their local and state governments into taking action They protested large gatherings pushed for schools and arenas to be closed There are some very smart and determined people in America and we made choices based on what we saw happening in China and Italy We were on our own this time but as you can see many people are making good choices and fighting against infections We can be angry but it wont change the fact that the administration has basically abandoned middle and lower income people We must save ourselves and vote accordingly|1 Im in complete agreement They will continue to protect their profits and the economy until the general public comes to the realization of how bad this is and only then will the govs sound the alarm This will likely be especially true in the US god forbid they put a damper on their precious election year Its a sad state of affairs What a strange time to be alive|1 Silver lining to a bad thunderstorm My biggest fear is how my kids are taken care if I die|0 Make a revolution you say that like its making a sandwich |1 People are talking about the cost of not working economics damage etc Im not sure they realize the hospital bill youre facing if youre one of the younger people who still needs hospitalization or the total cost of millions of seniors being hospitalized or on ventilators|1 Pension funding Only 4 of Americans have a pension Companies have been shifting the burden of retirement funding from corporations to individuals for decades|0 Just like they spent all their cash for stock buybacks and even borrowed some and bought some more now that they need liquidity and they should go just the opposite sell more shares to raise cash and pay loans back Maybe if they are forced to sell shares and dilute shareholders in order to stay afloat this will teach them a lesson for keeping rainy day funds and not spending it all to buy back shares and create a stock bubble|1 Do you know anyone you can ask who might help you out I am young and low risk I dont know anyone in my area pretty new here that I can help out but if there was someone who asked I would gladly run errands and such|1 He has a very big brain Hes a stable genius|1 There have been a good article about this from the team of NIHCDC scientists that traveled to Hubei they have detailed stats on symptoms with percentages I remember only that running nose is one of the symptoms that have no relation to COVID2019|1 And their economy For the FLU |0 Mr Hindsight and Ms Retrospect are lurking in the corner waiting for their time to shine|0 I bet the ebola river is absolutely lovely No chance in hell am I ever going there They changed the naming rules so places wont be associated with diseases|0 Im tired of people from other countries pretending American soldiers would drop bombs on American citizens fighting for their constitutional freedoms Talk about a delusional idiot|0 That would only make me incredibly paranoid and more freaked out at this point|0 I am confused by this How are they projecting 70000000 people are going to contract this No other country to date has a 1 in 5 infection rate nowhere near that I am not being a skeptic just wondering where these numbers are coming from|0 So if you ever do anything the government doesnt like it is possibly an intentional spread of the virus correct|0 The 1918 Spanish Flu is roughly considered 2 It is considered to have infected over a quarter of the worlds population and depending upon the study killed from 50100 million people They believe some of the higher mortality rates among young adults were due to cytokine release syndromehttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCytokinereleasesyndromeFrom everybody that survived that pandemic somebody they knew lost their life Thats what 2 means The irony that Trump says its just the flu his grandfather died from the Spanish Flu|0 Eerie is the perfect word I peaced out a few days ago to PEK and the vibe between the two cities is night and dayAlso significant increase in sirens all along the gaojia in SH|1 Its your usual hurr durrr China bad sensationalism with 0 rationality and logical deduction lolTheyd rather label everything in a bad light than give credit when credit is dueIts time people looked at this from a bypartisan perspective irregardless of political beliefs and treat this outbreak head on together and not trying to one up one another smh|0 Trump is terrified because the only thing he can rely on for reelection is that he made the economy grow aka a total lie but still some people believe it so if the economy tanks his entire reelection platform goes down the drain Fox News was saying just yesterday that the democrats want the virus to spread and kill people because they want the economy to tank Trump is so scared of the election that his entire impeachment proceedings were about him attempting to tarnish Biden he will do anything it takes Listen to his call to Fox News yesterday where he specifically mentions people still going to work hes so scared of the workforce taking time off its pathetic|0 I really hope the rest of the world understands that most Americans share this view as well I worry weve ostracized ourselves so much lately and its probable were going to have the worst outbreak of any nation|0 The people on top of society make decisions and the rest of us live with themThe leaders decided to destroy the middle class reduce median wages destroy the social welfare and healthcare systems and they also decided to create the bullshit meme of consumers drive the marketThe people who make the rules decide everyone elses behavior Consumers work within the system that the leaders create Blaming the consumer is blaming the victim|0 I know Singapore is a extremely strict country and its a relatively small country Like chewing gum is banned and all drugs carry the death penalty Tracking down infections and finding infected people seems relatively easy|0 Dont worry they are mad because they lost tendies on Friday Say this joke again when the virus is gone and people will laugh|1 Im not gonna stand here and see that virus cut open and see that little Kintner boy spill out all over the dock|0 amazoncom is an ecommerce website and isnt allowed in posts or comments If you believe we made a mistake please let us knowThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 Its not the spice its the poor quality of the food|0 Theres a discrepancy though between what symptoms a random person needs to show to get tested and someone with a risky travel history or personal contactsFHM have been horrible at communicating though and seem to be the institution thats dragging its heels the most I dont understand why they advised caution to travellers from northern italy only after most of them would have returned from the sporting break|0 Yep Its like there is a fire slowly approaching you and you dont want to look alarmist by evacuating so you literally sit and tell people Its just a flame bro and then get surprised when you walk out the next day and people are running around on fire How could this have happened|1 Except that wasnt the fucking case even a few days agoSpeculation is fine mindless conspiracy isnt|0 He will be fired Amazon dont play|0 Taking responsibility for his actions to startLead from example especially in a crisis1 Admitting to the public that he should have taken this seriously earlier This is so we can have less of the just a flu bros and stop them from walking around town bars clubs parties when they may be asymptomatic 2 Admitting that he wasted valuable time nearly 2 months trying to falsely take credit for stopping and containing this This is so people understand he may not be the best person to listen to at times and this is why we will be running into a lot more deaths that could have been prevented if he was a better leader3 Stepping aside and letting the actual professionals weigh in on these matters Stop the tweets and trying to get reelected right nowThis is again so people stop thinking that China started this all in an effort to get trump out of here This just makes people take the situation less serious Thats just for starters|0 I would compare that to being hung over on a work day with 4 hours of sleep and coffee barely helping and the complete mental fog Probably like that|1 how do you explain the Japanese quarantine officer that got infectedProbably because he was interacting with infected people and slipped up It only takes one mistake to get infected|0 Ah shit i live in Seattle|0 Why cant this man be president He should start a new political party|1 The rich and powerful pieces of trash do The majority not so much|1 I was growing mine out past couple weeks and sadly shaved it 10 mins ago because I kept doing the facial hair scratch or sophisticated thinking hand pose thing all day|1 Take solace in the fact that even in China it doesnt seem to be infecting EVERYONE Look at Japan and South Korea and Singapore Their entire population is not going to contract this Be safe be vigilant and plan to bug in|1 Dont feel guilty about preparing Keep it on the down low and you wont even have to defend your actions You can eat the extra food and save the masks and gloves for the next time this happens which it undoubtedly willYou dont have anything to prove|1 Katrina was crazy Before that I had no idea that civilized society is help together by such a thin thread|0 A world war involving nuclear weapons is a different matter altogether though not only that buy radiation will severely lower your immune system|0 I wish a speedy recovery to all patients I hope that this deadly epidemic will be eliminated We are with you in pain for you We will support you with everything we have In the end we will win against this virus as we have over others The real power is your efforts thank you|1 Am I going crazy or does everyone here seem to have coronavirus|0 They hurt a lot but it all depends on how crazy you are about noncompliance If youre one of those who have doen zero preparation and starve for 2 days youre going to keep charging no matter the pain|0 I watched Stephen Kings The Stand as a kid Holy shit|0 The way you have to explain it to this guy like hes a toddler in order for him to get it is pretty funny Im not going to lie|1 Im from Derby and live in London Friends in London are onto it friends in Derby and wifes family in Scotland are laughing it off|1 Last liberal government ever Its a disgrace Avoid your fate Isolatehttpsstaythefuckhomecom|0 Or you live through this and realize life is about much more than a dream job which itself is an oxymoron|1 Have one 1 minute away love it|1 Im in Bern The weather is nice and the city is fairly packed Its unreal|1 Great Hopefully theres news for renters soon too|1 In Japan every main Japanese newspaper 5 of them and 2 English ones almost everyday writes about coronavirus on their first page for at least 3 weeksThe government may be incompetent but hell everyone here is concerned about this|0 Yep My son was born at 1lb 8oz Didnt get to hold him for a full month and we were one of the lucky ones with minimal problems Spending time in the nicu was easily the most emotionally draining thing Ive ever experienced Every alarm is someones baby in need of immediate life saving care and they go off all the time Cant say enough how strong those nurses are|1 Yes so lets do all we can to warn people to be even more careful and not be offended if they arent let in|1 China is not the same as outside China We dont have apparent multiple generations of transmission outside of China especially not outside Asia You might say that they exist but that isnt based on evidence but your faith despite the absence of evidence|1 I think thats what its for Mask shortage Healthy people in Japan are STILL wearing masks and they know A LOT about masksI already have them and Im still gonna wear mine so people stay the hell away from me Thats another reason to wear masks btw so others can see to stay away from you When I wore one in Japan and was visibly sick people stayed away from me in the trainsSometimes I think that might be why some girls wear them To keep those train perverts away from them lol Or to not be identified by stalkers The amount of girls wearing masks in Japan exceeds the amount of guys by a noticeable marginCrime is VERY low in Japan compared to the US so people wearing masks doesnt generally cause as much of a problem Besides population density well some cities in the US are still heavily populated I think the main reason masks arent a thing in the US is because of all of the robberies and crime that go on|0 The mortality rate is so high these factors are likely minor compared to virological factors Pneumonia at these rates is astounding for a primary viral infection It definitely will have an effect and make things worse but I think here the scales are quite different|1 Data from stories does he mean maybe asking the family members who died from influenza what their symptoms were before they died|0 You did your part The rest was on them No guilt dude|0 Well see If everyone responds we will see infection rates level off Just block my username and youll never see it again|0 This is what everyone needs to do if they get symptomatic Im certainly not a doctor but do what you would do for any illness just stay away from other people And maybe your dog|0 Holy fuck that sounds stressful|0 Im old enough to remember when the US was the country that donated medical assistance to countries who werent rich or advanced enough to get this for themselves Welcome to the decline|0 Niche use or potentially in cases where most folks recovering from COVID19 are actually disqualified from donating plasma due to risk of continued viral shed being a participant in a COVID19 related clinical trial etcI noted below that we arent 100 sure of the length of time people may be shedding virus after recovering from COVID19 and its entirely likely that any group thats doing immune serums may disqualify donors whove had COVID19 less than six months ago read everyone we know of whos had COVID19 at this point also typically donors cant have been in an experimental new drug trial for a period of time without donating and at this rate I think almost every person whos been found with labconfirmed COVID19 is being offered participation in a clinical trial of some form or another if theyre sick enough for hospitalizationSo tldr just because of whats involved in making immune serums and all the restrictions that would apply to recent recoverees from COVID19you might actually have a larger pool of SARS recoverees that can donate plasma to the cause at this time|0 Fuck my fellow californians It was good times Tc|0 Why is it targeting the likable starsSeriously First the nicest man in Hollywood and now the sexiest man in Hollywood|1 Evangelicals are antiscience and as you know whoevers loudest gets the most attention Im Christian but to do things like not get chemo or an organ transplant or hell even medicine is properly dumb What I hate more than anything are the televangelists who cure things like HIVcancer or what you will Theyre just liars chasing money which is terrible considering how many desperate people they take advantage ofIt makes my blood boil thinking about it and I can understand why people hate evangelism because I do to in all honesty|0 httpswwwthestarcomnewscanada20200211saltisthesecretingredientinthesefacemasksthatcouldpreventspreadofnextcoronavirushtmlhttpswwwthestarcomnewscanada20200211saltisthesecretingredientinthesefacemasksthatcouldpreventspreadofnextcoronavirushtmlIts highly unlikely youll be able to replicate these salt crystal masks but some people might be able to find a way to rig it|0 Remember that stress impacts your immune system And there are things you can do to improve it that are more productive than reading online Cook a healthy meal get some exercise spend time with friendsfamily and dont discuss the virus Etc|1 Criticizing a government is now xenophobic Lol|1 Its not like 214 million DEADFor that we will have to see how deadly fall mutation turns out to be|0 Not sure better ask at rthewalkingdead|0 Animal crossingPersona 5 royalResident evil 3|0 Automatic translation herehttpstranslategooglecomtranslateslautotlenuhttpwwwansaitenglishnewsgeneralnews20200316over2000healthworkersinfected97a0363fe2e8478abe26bc08d4d2983bhtmlI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Your sheep must feel pretty comfortable with their supply of toilet paper Otherwise they would be flocking to the store|1 I remember a couple years ago I was at work I just couldnt absorb oxygen Like no cough no actual issues other than I felt like I was breathing anything but oxygen I was lightheaded blacking out in the corners of my eyes stumbling a bit I dont know what that was but thats the closest thing I can imagine Never figured out what it was|0 Thats no frail lily thats a vicious tigerWhether she re engaged to give as good as she got prefilming and got more back or started it herself and the narrative is shit thats nobody to feel sorry for Its a typical pair of aggressive NYers |0 Unless you have a severe case of coronavirus in which case dont sleep because your body cant breathe on its own|0 What are the ramifications if they die Just pull them You wont be the only parent|0 But thats something to take solace in 1st world healthcare infrastructure isnt strained at the moment so it goes to show proper treatment will be able to contain it as long as we nip it in the bud|1 I agree a cruise line wont get a bailout but a US publicly traded company with headquarters in Miami and a ton of American citizens on staff does a significant amount for the American economy Where do you think all its corporate profits go Mostly US shareholders|1 Italians in general in my experienceI have done a fair bit of traveling and Italians were the warmest and friendliest towards tourists by far If we were lost all we had to do is open a map and no less than 3 Italians would swoop in trying to help us get to where we were going I was as much impressed with their gracious hospitality as I was their art architecture and food Lot of love for Italy beautiful country|1 Doesnt help that the media has torched most of its credibility over the last 1020 yearsSo many false alarms over the years now everybody is shocked to find people have stopped paying attention at a time when they really should be|0 I would love a nuanced statement from the CDC like you have laid out I am partially convincedI can still think of reasons for testing depending on the accuracy of the tests of course First is that I think we want more accurate fatality rates The second is that I still see hope that containment is possible and for that you need a sensitive test or battery of tests I do not have an opinion on whether containment is possible as I am not an expert I also do not have an opinion on whether we should have mass testing likely of the RTPCR kind it appears as Ill also leave that to the experts|1 Seems ignorance and hyper religious beliefs go hand in hand for some strange reason |1 Yes this is the real panic CCP was worried about Most people do not know that party members sit on the company boards|0 Im so shocked that there was apparently no plan this whole time Its really unbelievable|0 I think its the first time the number of seriouscritical cases has dropped edit by more than a handful|1 I totally agree I was thinking more along the lines of rales resolving with deep breathing and percussion or a rhonchi resolving after deep breathing and coughing Im ashamed to admit that I probably wouldnt recognize diminished breath sounds though|1 The way to have a steady supply is to limit the number each person can buy at any time This makes it fairThe Soviet Union tried this approach|1 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 You know the Time Person of the Year award isnt necessarily about someone who did something good right For example Hitler and Stalin were both the person of the year at some point|1 No you both|0 Man fuck the US|0 they stopped reporting the number of tested persons 3 weeks ago thoughsomething is wrong clearly|0 If extreme measures arent taken now and we continue following Italys path in 2 weeks the NHS will already be overrun and delaying the peak will be irrelevant We have half the critical care beds per capita than Italy and theyve been having to decide who gets a ventilator and who gets to die for the past few daysChina South Korea Taiwan Hong Kong and even Italy in some areas have managed to quell the outbreaks by implementing heavy testing and social isolation measures whilst its possible there may be a bounce back we have real life case studies showing these measures work These measures are also supported by the WHO Instead in this country we seem happy to take a massive gamble against the advice of every other major power WHO and the evidence we have so far|1 True true Just keep that stuff in hand just in case lol|1 The CDC tells clinicians to use their judgment in deciding who should get tested What would defying that advice accomplish How does use your judgment equate to dont want people to get testedhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtmlhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovhcpclinicalcriteriahtml|1 Yeah I hear you Virus doesnt give a crap about trying doing the best we can and so on unfortunately|1 Yeeep thats what theyre planning for Cant get unemployment if nothing is running People really need to think about their situation and the current situation in this country Unemployment isnt going to just happen like everything else we predicted would|1 A season DD would write his life story in 23 scenes judging by the pacing of S8 Hes born He turns evil Next scene hes elderly and dead|0 This is pretty naive I am sure people would love to lose their jobs in the middle of a pandemic|1 YupIts fucking annoyingPeople use the flu as a fuckin slang term for a cold Then they say Lol its just a coldInfluenza is a massive killer This is several times worse than INFLUENZA|0 A massive Thank you to you and all your colleagues Stay safe and good luck|1 I too would like to stand away from a guy shouting in your ear with a megaphone|1 Schools need to switch to online education ASAP IMO They would currently have no idea if the virus is being transmitted through schools or not because kids often dont show symptoms although they can still transmit it|0 Normalcy bias|0 Simple the big number is an estimate and estimates are flexible|1 Because price gouging is illegal in many places|0 Oh wow Scary This is all very scary We have people at local hospitals being treated and some students in the college district I work in are being monitored and selfquarantined|0 Ok but 40s and 20syounger are different One of my friends and I both got it and it was pretty miserable but not in any way lifethreatening|1 Id wager The Tenderloin in San Francisco is the worst possible place for an outbreak|0 Thanks god it on the other side of canada|1 From WHOChina joint reporthttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfhttpswwwwhointdocsdefaultsourcecoronavirusewhochinajointmissiononcovid19finalreportpdfThe Joint Mission systematically enquired about testing for COVID19 from routine respiratory disease surveillance systems to explore if COVID19 is circulating more broadly and undetected in the community in China These systems could include RTPCR testing of COVID19 virus in influenzalikeillness ILI and severe acute respiratory infection SARI surveillance systems as well as testing of results among all visitors to fever clinics In Wuhan COVID19 testing of ILI samples 20 per week in November and December 2019 and in the first two weeks of January 2020 found no positive results in the 2019 samples 1 adult positive in the first week of January and 3 adults positive in the second week of January|1 I am done with this pointless fucking argument Translation I cant actually refute anything you said so Im going to swear and scream like an angry child You dont count mortality by including people who are still sick It has never been done for any infectious disease everOh look here we have an expertThe WHO is using the same standard as has been used for every pandemicYeah The standardhttpswwwmedicalnewstodaycomarticleswhyarecovid19deathratessohardtocalculateexpertsweighin you are railing against Spoiler the 34 rate turns out to be deaths total confirmed casesIt is fucking simpleYeah thats a key part of DunningKruger syndrome Everything is really fucking simple when you dont actually know anything Whereas realityhttpsjournalsplosorgplosntdsarticleid101371journalpntd0003846 is always really hard I realise you may have had enough of experts but now really isnt the time for that|0 Well for what its worth UV wont remove poo from your phoneYour phone will still have poo Itll just be clean poo |1 Youre not stating anything that isnt more calmly stated in the OPs article Its called a novel Coronavirus because our immunity systems have no prior education of it So until we get our scientific and medical arms around it its new novel and we need to continue to unravel it The general public is getting a real time look at how the world works on these things Historically in prior outbreaks there was far LESS connectivity between organizations or the ability to look behind the curtain In as much as the Chinese have failed to be fully transparent and Wuhan really does feel like something that belongs on the same page as Fukushima and Chernobyl Im doing my best to come at this with healthy skepticism but not spread panic myself Concern is healthy And we should all continue to let the mosaic populate and we all have to make our own decisions on how to absorb and react|1 I genuinely want to know how these people are still your friends I have lost so many people after their trump shenanigans and found myself drifting away from new acquaintances after finding out revealing g facts that I genuinely am curious how you manage to tolerate it Granted I am the daughter of an immigrant and a far left Bernie bro so that makes it difficult|1 Even better sanitize it first I dont get food delivery but I did a pick up from my dealer yesterday Dudes got a family and I made sure to sanitize the bills before handing off We laughed about them being a little wet but he appreciated the precaution|1 The hand gel has alcohol in it usually which dissolved the coating just enough to affect the appearanceThe costing isnt actually there to repel water though its there to reduce fingerprints httpswwwphonearenacomnewsOleophobiccoatingwhatitishowtocleanyourphonewhattodoifthecoatingwearsoffid65974|1 Well There was a live stream of the WHO official youtube channel with a long QA session answering questions from twitter with the head of infectious diseases and the head of mediasocial media They were live from outside the WHO building presumably in Europe as both had European accents I have watched this video on the 26th or 27th of February I have found a chat of mine talking to a friend about the video but unfortunately I did not send a link I have looked on the official channel and I cannot find the video I have seen your article and now many other articles pointing out that there have been studies where a virus can persist on a surface for days but the articles dont mention under what conditions this can happen Generally speaking it appears that a virus can persist for much longer in optimized cold and very humid conditions There is nothing precise on covid19 yet but there is this article from today which suggests upwards of 24hrs under the right conditions httpsnewsskycomstorycoronavirusrevealedtheobjectsthathelpspreadcovid1911949623httpsnewsskycomstorycoronavirusrevealedtheobjectsthathelpspreadcovid1911949623 again temperature and humidity seems to be key to the virus survival Not great as were still in winter in the northern hemisphere|0 Absolutely Since our leaders did not act quickly enough on testing and were way behind in that regard our best defense is social distancing|1 My cousin and aunt are going on Monday I begged them to stay home Michigan Im truly worried for them|1 You dont know Maybe he is exactly who we need in charge the only man who is truly able to recognize the greatness and potential in Jared Mr Trump PLEASE I beseech you Put Jared in charge of the coronavirus so we can all relax knowing he is in charge|1 Not enough tests and trying to save them for the at risk populations|1 Look how they handled the vape epidemic They essentially lied about the cause for like half a year while nicotine vapers went back to cigarettes and people died from THC vapes|0 He Always seems that way He surely has had contact with someone whos tested positive down the line but at this point a lot of us have Not a fan of the guy but dont wish the virus on him either just my own personal feeling|0 SMH maybe they are still under the illusion that children cannot contract it or wont pass it on|0 Not if you want to stay away from work in order to not get the disease And does everyone get sick pay Im not sure if everyone has that option What about people who are selfemployed|0 Pence doesnt think smoking causes cancer and I heard he refused the advice of the CDC during the Aids epidemic to open a free syringe exchange He is antiscience|0 Exceptwe have evidence o it with OTHER infectious diseases including but not limited toa The measles which crossed over into humans from the nowextinct rinderpest sometime between 400800 CE Whilst measles is still nasty early measles was like canine distemper which crossed over much more recently from rinderpest in that it had something like a 60 fatality rate or higherb Syphilis which was introduced into European populations circa the 1500swhilst still a nasty disease especially if untreated and allowed to go into tertiary syphilis it was a remarkably deadly disease in its 1500s form such that it gained the name the great poxthe course of illness was quite a bit accelerated from the present with infection to death from a particularly severe form of tertiary syphilis involving multiple gummas being as short as 23 years essentially to the Renaissance Era what HIV and AIDS was to the 80s before highly effective retroviralsc The Spanish flu yes DAT Flu H1N1 flus are still rough compared to ordinary flu but modern H1N1 flus all of which are genetic descendants of the original Spanish flu via two lineagesone in humans one in pigs are considerably less nasty than the cytokinestormcausing Flu From Hell that has been arguably blamed for the end of World War IId Ebola yes seriously The initial outbreaks of Ebola Zaire were around 90 fatal and burned out very quickly subsequent Ebola outbreaks and subtypes have actually been lowering in fatality rate around 60and considering that until recently there was no Ebola vaccine and no effective antiviral treatment for Ebola this is very likely evolution of the virus itself Another thing pointing to this is that larger outbreaks of Ebola have been in general the less blatantly fatal serotypes with death rates closer to Lassa FeverIts spreading at its present virulence level yes butheres the thinga lot of the selections for virulence have a tendency to tame down viruses yes the genetic mutations that make them easier to spread actually can make them less deadly and it is not to the genetic advantage of a virus to kill its infecteewhat helps it survive and propogate and do its Virus Thing is actually keeping the host alive but shedding virus Retroviruses in particular have raised this to a black artwe actually have remnants of retroviruses in our DNA that infected human and prehuman ancestors long ago and actually incorporated themselves into the genetic code Retroviruses unlike a lot of virus families actually dont explode a cell in reproduction but hijack the cellular manufacturing process a little more efficientlyIf viruses didnt lose virulence over time or diseases in general wed be dealing with killer avian flu like worse than Spanish Flu level stuff literally every flu season wed be having COVID19 about 500 times over something like 20 of your viruses that cause the common cold are actually coronaviruses that jumped species generations ago quite possibly were as bad as COVID19 when they first jumped species but noware just chest colds syphilis would be Extremely Obvious as an STD as itd make people look like plague zombies before killing them compete with the weeping sores and wed be having death rates from measles far closer to those experienced in recentlycontacted peoples who are completely naive to the disease note measles epidemics have killed off 9095 of recently contacted peoples at times this is why forced contact of uncontacted peoples is Frowned Upon nowadays Oh and smallpox would have probably wiped out 95 of the world population did I mention smallpox in its initial forms tended to manifest as a haemorrhagic fever not unlike Ebola And it tended to do that in naive populations like the Mandan First Nation that was almost completely wiped out from haemorrhagic smallpox So theres thatNow the main issue is that it does take time for viruses to evolve this way to better match their hosts without killing them So we still very much want to do the Sciencing to find an effective vaccine and antivirals But its not Captain Trips|0 My parents are 70 and 85 and the 85yo has congestive heart failure Hes not doing wellWhen I called them on Thursday and said you should stop going out to dinner and hosting your friends try to stay away from people they told me that these worries were a liberal media hoax All of these precautions are to save them and their friends and they didnt believe any of itSo yeah A lot of this is on the moron who called it a hoax|0 Nice they handled it very wellupcoming news of the virus has mutated and gotten stronger in former infected patients|1 People should die so we can save moneyTo Trump Yes|1 Yeah I sure was disappointed in the turnout for the primaries Marched too Remember the pigs beating us with their Billy clubs calling is dirty hippies |0 Wu Han Aint nothing to fuck with|0 Dont forget those of us in healthcare Not only do we not get to stay home we are going to get busier|1 I have searched every store in my town of 15000 people No hand sanitizer to be found I did grab Wet Ones antibacterial wipes for hands That will ease my mind as we have a road trip planned for March break|1 Thank you|1 This should be top comment|1 Yeah it was recently banned in the UK for hotels as it was proven to be nothing more than psychological manipulation|0 Probably because it can literally destroy the country|0 Not necessarily they have better healthcare but their government is quite Corrupt Can you imagine Hitlers granddaughter running for any government position in Germany Well Mussolinis granddaughter is a politician in Italy|1 That must mean they set a Medicare approved reimbursement rate yeah I wonder what it is|1 THANK YOU Most Americans who visit Canada live right on the border the overwhelming majority of us wouldnt even notice if we were barred from entering|1 PCP or teladoc for the order Less than 100 likely much lowerLabs work doesnt involve an admission so no hospital bill outside of actual lab work|0 Weird Zerohedge writes Japan says no coronavirus cases confirmed on cruise ship Diamond Princess|0 Boris is a total disgrace I think hes more of a symptom of the people in our country though|0 Isnt it roughly the same time period for SARS Like how HIV spread along with the end of Congo colonialism and the start of migration as well as American LGBT rights movement Viruses hopped onto the wagon of human behavior|1 Because we trust that our scientists are better than yours Sorry This idea that Britain is run entirely by corrupt evil insane people that could bypass the medical and scientific community is a product of the caricature of the country you see through the proEU press If this is happening its because some extremely heavyweight medical scientists epidemiologists virologists and other experts have signed off on it Boris Johnson doesnt sit at the helm overruling his advisers and departments on specialist knowledge There is a machinery around us called the government and civil service and generally theyre far more competent than the individual the public elects to be the public face of that machinery It is very likely that other nations are looking at similar approaches Theyre just not telling you because they know it would spark outrage and political unrest that the UK isnt as worried about No cure is coming for a long time No vaccine is coming for a long time No one wants to hear that some people are going to have to die to ensure the minimal number of deaths across society overall but that might be better than the alternative Managing society such that immunity rises at the highest rate relative to overall spread and impact of the disease may well be the best plausible outcome in terms of overall death that is currently realistic so this action is being taken because it leads to the least harmful outcome for everyone Of course you can take draconian measures like complete societal lockdown and find your economy cant recover because every time you lift measures you see a resurgence which overwhelms your healthcare system yet again and as your economy weakens more and more people die because healthcare services are strapped for cash lowering the quality of care and creating more deaths All this because you commit a moral fallacy of thinking that its better to try to save everyone and if that doesnt work save no one than make a calculated decision about how to manage the outcome with the least possible deathsYoure basically saying that in Italy you dont think with your heads you think with your hearts and as soon as the government admits theyre being rational about the outcome and factoring some deaths into the recovery strategy you think only about your own granny and decide to go out and protest spreading the virus and causing the government to spend money on things that could have been spent on saving your granny Im sorry but in the UK we call that idiocy and reactionary thinking|1 yeah a law suit is nice if you have the income to survive as long as the legal process takes plus however long it then takes to be paid even if you do manage to win after a few years|1 I have been told that I may wear a mask if I wish but I have to provide it my self Unfortunately they are now really hard to get hold of I do have a couple but only ffp3 disposable that last for about 4 hours Each shift is 89 hours long Our stock room isnt that big I do not wish to name the company but it is a petrol stationfoodcafe place I assume if I get it I have no come back due to them saying I can wear a mask but failed to provide on my part But Im not convinced just a mask will do the trick Its all very well having the advice of working from home But you cant fill up with fuel from home I am going to bring up the fact that Starbucks have banned reusable cups as a safe guard where as we are in a new promotional push for them We serve a lot of the emergency response crews I am currently banned from bringing up the subject depending on who the duty manager is on shift This is because apparently I was starting to freak out some of the other staff and customers with how seriously Im taking it But I think they should be taking it seriously Not approaching it like an ostrich with its head in the sand Sorry for bad grammar Its very late|0 You will be fine its the old people who may have a bad experience with this I am oldishThats according to approx 50000 case studies so farIf you catch it it will prob just be like a dose of flu|0 Different levels of preparedness in both countries It leads to both greater detection of asymptoticlowseverity cases and also a greater rate of survival in severe cases If you compare SK death rate to that in other parts of China the numbers are much closer You can draw a similar comparison of different rates between ItalySK to the different rates of death between Wuhan and the rest of China Wuhans medical system got overwhelmed only the most severe cases could get proper treatment via oxygen machines Many people couldnt get care in the early days because the new hospitals werent even setup yet and the fact that there just wasnt enough equipment Quality of care in Italy during the past two weeks or so might be comparable to the quality of care in Wuhan during the early days Bruce Aylward a Canadian and WHO staff member who just got back from China has been giving a lot of interviews in the past two days on Chinas preparedness response Its worth a read for sure because it seems like Chinas response after midJan seemed to be professional and extremely proficient so much so that we might want to learn from them and SK and Singapore for that matter|0 There are no test kits Virginia man died He was confirmed positive on the 13th died on the 14th He was the 365th test Virginia has done What does that tell you It tells me that there still arent any damn test kits Last time I heard Virginia had received 800 test kits with promises promises for millions to come Part of the millions on Friday put off to the next Friday oh promises promises maybe the beginning of next month do you think Im not convinced Didnt believe the liars so Im not disappointed or surprised only angry|1 This is actually my least favorite thing this outbreak has done I mean till Olympics are officially cancled|0 I guess hes saying the efficacy of the measures is severely cut if you let the virus spread to at or above 1 of any given community Im not sure if community in this case can be pockets of high density areas around the country or if by community he means the nation But 1 of the country would be somewhere around 33 million|0 I work in a public hospital in a major metropolitan city and and am abhorred by the literal lack of preparation and proactive measures zero taken I am literally being told to use hand sanitizer and wash my hands Zero measures taken to protect my personal safety Zero measures given to help my patients|1 800kg of rice is same cost as a cell phone Have you ever seen an american prepper They have basements and garages stocked that look like stores in their own home|1 Dont forget essential oils|1 I was so tired and Im VERY poorly educated about medical terms Hope it gave someone a laugh at least|1 Hospitalization rates for pneumoniainfluenzalike illness are 40 per 100000 In a community hospital serving roughly 100000 residents a cluster of 40 COVID19 infections and this is the likely pattern infections are clustered or focal in respiratory viral infections then youd see 6 extra cases or better than a 15 increase in the course of a couple of weeks No remotely proficient administrator is going to miss that Flu season is also on the decline at the moment Hospitalizations only lag slightly|0 They might get accused of stealing them from the inventory my moms a doctor and she said there have been a lot of theft going on in her hospital for these supplies but its still probably best to give it to them personally|1 Thank you for reading my mind lol|1 This When coronavirus hit Iran the people were especially freaking out because they knew Iran didnt have the resources to treat it properly|0 No you have to multiply the Bs ie B This is the origin of the phrase Be there or B squared|0 People who work in supermarkets deserve more credit shit pay and made to work like a dog at the moment with no masks gloves or sanitizer provided Not to mention customers are talking to them like crap|0 httpsenmwikipediaorgwikiCorruptedBloodincidentCorrection Im not sure if the CDC was involved in studying this|0 Yup 3 people came down with the virus and my boss told me to go the building they where in to check something I refused it needs a deep clean He didnt understand how dangerous it is|1 If you just enlarge thus screen its grainy but if you go to the link it is clear and legit BOE even enlarged|1 I mean apple is still going to be selling their products online and they need a good story thats good with the working class Makes sense that theyd offer unlimited paid sick leave and that theyll probably keep paying their employeesx200BIm worried for people who work hourly jobs or restaurant jobs etc who will be unpaid for weeks Hopefully there is a way to bail out these people who will absolutely need a way to livex200BMaybe Coronavirus is going to get the ball rolling on Universal Basic Income|1 I just got hired on at a new job and dont even get health insurance benefits until May Fuck the USAs dogshit healthcare system|0 Chill War is not good but people die due to disease as well some diseases kill more people than wars do and the Chinese government and people have had to fight to keep people alive Theyve had to change the way they live OP also never compared the Coronavirus to a ballistics war just said that their economy was a wartime economy the definition of which literally only requires contingencies and changes put in place which affect the economy Their experience does not take away from any other extreme or experience If people are afraid and dying and all you can say is they cant name their pain that then you need to rearrange your priorities Also these contingency plans put into place in China are an attempt to keep the disease from spreading to your country and household So show some decency|0 Are you eating lead biscuits If you quarantine an area early in 1 month youll have almost virtually eradicated community spread If you wait youre looking at your 4 5 6 month estimate Christ people like this are the ones who wait until tires are bare before buying new ones|1 arosolized coronavirus floating in the air Most of it will be transmitted through droplets when people sneeze and cough Even those puny surgical masks reduce incidence of cold and flu by 4x They are recommending eye protection for this thoughUsually masks are enough for droplets4x Noit is too insane optimism 50 protection at least meaning lowering incidence up to 2x and no more Really much less As I said scarf on your mounth and nose could give you simillar protectionAnd puny masks work for medicals only if there are only dropletsAre much better against bacteria so are usually used For medicans that could be sometimes enough because medicans dont end on masks only and take quite care about disinfection of everythingBut we have news about ill medicans too So or they have only masksor even better protection could be not enoughAnd wellOverreaction in such situation is already beneficial choice People shouldnt believe in masks because in crowds we see in China crowds normal to whole Asia masks will NOT be enough Saying it is enough is dumband it puts people at riskProbability of meeting very close infested person in such crowd is too high Especially it its symptoms are visible after 12 days after you begin infect people around you It is good for their government to keep the situation look normal but it is dangerous in factThe only good thing their government does is putting cities in quarantineBut they did it too lateand despite so powerful authoritarian totalitarian control they are probably dont putting enough effort to find and quarantine under guard all that would be infested and those who met them They may not sended enough equipment if infos we see are correct Are they able to keep all the logistics to quarantine the citycitiestoo feed people and to try to separate between ill and healthy In democracy it would be hard but USA has FEMAfor Chinese it would be easier or not|0 I heard you could also absorb it through the belly button if youre a woman I like how you had to explain that its less effective lmao|1 They also didnt say what times theyll be open or anything Pretty crappy article tbh|0 Its probably been there for weeks they just never really tested which is the worst part about all of this honestly|0 Contracted coronavirus coronedExample Is Karen coming in today Unfortunately not shes coronic I think she got coroned last week on the way to work|0 Yes That was what I meant with regard to some cases are likely diagnosed without testing being performed If someone comes in with the same symptoms as everyone else who tested positive Im going out on a limb and presuming that those people are instantly diagnosed So say 10000 people come into the hospital in a day 2000 tested 1000 come back positive That leaves 8000 left Cant you imagine at least 1000 of that remaining untested 8000 are automatically diagnosed based on symptoms alone Especially due to staff and test shortages Doctors are having breakdowns Im going to say that its very likely corners are being cut especially with regard to diagnosing without testing|1 How many tests were administered to capture these 1700 positives|1 When COVID initially started everyone was so wary about being in the same space with an Asian Please avoid travelling to Asia and continue to stay the fuck away from us because being around westerners now is ironically much more dangerous than anything|0 Its nothing special I am from another European country and here you always get 100 of the salary and bonus as long as you are sick no matter how long it takes And that is up to you and your doctor not the company That is the law all companies have to act according to it This is a matter of course for most western rich countries well except the USA|1 Wishing you the best too Be safe|1 We should all just close the borders and only allow those in who have been extensively screened Quarantine everybody who have been identified with the virus and treat them at any cost|1 Im not just trying to be an asshole but the majority of people seem to be happy with it considering thats what system wins each time a vote happens|1 Good riddance commie scum |1 This previous work on SARSfamily betacorona virus growth disagreesIts not actually exponential but it damn close in the ascending phase before mitigation kicks in 64 million is highly unlikely but 35 million is nothttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC4903879|0 In Malaysia a lot of people were wearing masks I did too as well when visiting crowded areas|1 Damn|0 Everyone is Governments are really bad at this sort of thing|0 Yep And it was in their official report from Wuhan too along with the claim that 20 of cases require hospitalisationBut in the UK and USA the government and most media are pushing a 1 CFR only the elderly get sick narrative Occasionally the CFR is qualified with a statement like Its high because they missed mild cases in China although the WHO has explicitly stated they do not believe this to be the case Scotland has also been suggesting a 4 rate of hospitalisation which I have not seen suggested anywhere elseGotta keep the economy rolling I guess|0 Im so glad you learned anyway and plan to teach your kids Do you have the 5 meals planned My top 5 meals are omelet curry and 3 kinds of tacos When you have a love for cooking or fear of failure its fun to lean into fun cooking gadgets Also cooking for someone is a major way to show affection We were always on the go and I rarely got to cook as a kid I literally forgot flour in a cake once my dad grew up in a trailer park and he can literally turn leftovers into a gourmet tasting menu so thats my goal With daily practice its possible It sounds like you are very similar turning leftovers into new meals|1 I got my supply of both goes longer than a month though am screwed lol|0 Point of clarification You wouldnt be ruining anyones trip He would I do understand your wish to protect the other passengers from having their flight schedule interrupted but the consequences of assholery belong squarely on the shoulders of the asshole not those of the person who calls them on it|1 Huh Thats an interesting point and it would make good sense Now why would children have less ACE2 receptors than adults Is this speculation or is that documented|1 I mean do you have emergency savings Or could you take out a loan I will get downvoted for this but want to remind people that these are optionsYou also likely have some bills that arent essential to survival like cable high cell phone package etc|1 So you think theyre being completely honest|1 Several weeks ago on Reddit I said the only people who dont prepare for major disaster are the elderly the poor and the foolishand you can opt out of one of those categories North Americans have had weeks to slowly prepare without depleting grocery store stocks and if more people had done this older people could have had much greater access to goods before facing mandatory quarantine Instead the foolish have picked the shelves cleanTake notice of this woman our media and governments have failed us by refusing to tell us the truth They continue This is what that looks like Dont get sad about this Get angry and demand better starting now|0 so quick to anger what are you hiding|0 thats not what the focus of the article is the title they chose is misleading end of conversation|0 People be stupid NOT to isolate selfquarantineYour job or your life Choose|0 Seriously it is a miracle that Taiwan is controlled in COVID19 There is Chinese Festival in 25 Jan thousands of people who work in Wuhan return to Taiwan to meet their families That should be a main source of infection The only reason I could imagine is that the ULTRAhigh mask rate in Taiwan after 30 Jan stopped the further infections|1 Visit the above linked subreddit at your own risk I am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Its a jokeThat chief science officer wants herd immunity to develop after 70 of people are infectedHow about fighting the virus instead then using this vaccine instead of dooming half a million 0010766 people to a nasty deathAsia Middle East and possibly Africa will end up quarantining the entire western world at this rate just like UK has done for years on every pet for rabies|0 Not mild doesnt mean serious Id imagine the pneumonia number is much lower than we actually see People arent seeking treatment because of a cough fever and body aches|0 Yeah I work at Busch Gardens Tampa Less busypopular than Disney but they have a festival going on every weekend for the next month or so I work Saturday and Sunday and Im definitely concerned All those people packed in to see a concert is not gonna be good|1 Well thats just rude|0 Yeah its way to see the comparison like this but its the real data and this thing is off the charts compared to SARS we have no comparison so this is just unprecedented|0 The rate seems right on target for the March 1st report Also if you look at 1718 theres a decently equivalent number per week there Youd have to look into why those rates were so high in that year as well to get a better picture Need more data to make any kind of judgement here|1 Thanks for accepting my apologyI do the best I can and hey not like the first time I looked stupid Seen you before on threads and you aint no Rocket Scientist yourself so I know you know how it isBest to ya|1 With a name like sparkle titties Id believe anything you said|1 Walk around Canada now it is certainly a naive population|1 If you are rich enough to afford wood while others freeze you are obviously a counterrevolutionary capitalist roadies|1 I used to fly out of OHare every Monday morning 1525 hours was my norm This was a 810 years ago hopefully things have changed OHare sucks they do 130 of the business they are meant to do If its better now for you Im glad This was before the fast pass thing they have now|1 Oh no does Kenney have to actually start caring about the people of Alberta|1 China does not report flu deaths the same way They record influenza and pneumonia in different groups and if someone is killed by pneumonia they are not counted as an influenza death even if influenza caused their pneumonia|0 If you dont have health insurance chances are you are living paycheck to paycheck They are expanding Medicaid and if you are sick enough to go to the hospital you will have stopped receiving the paycheck and will become eligible In most states assets dont count only income Medicaid is often backdated to the first of the month|0 What up dude I used to work with you Would it still be possible to play spikeball if we maintained a 6ft distance and wore glovesSorry to hear you got it glad youre being openReal question how did you NOT fingers crossed pass it to your wife and kids Is it luck Did you keep your distance when you started feeling symptomatic|1 Bought a small stock of tinned food about a weeks worth last week my wife has said that she is not eating it I think there is an im not eating tinned food mentality in modern culture shes coming round though which is good we are prepared and will shop as normal until shit hits the fan|1 If youre young and healthy you will probably be fine But youll contribute to spreading it to people who are not as lucky as you are Then the hospitals would collapse and even people with other urgencies could die from the sheer lack of resourcesTo me not caring enough to take the simplest precautions because you will personally be unaffected is at least 34 steps above being selfish|0 No not 100 of the household will get it Ill refer you to the AMA that 10 qualified doctors did on rCoronavirus httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfdf5fqweareateamofmedicalexpertsfollowingutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf that provided sources and refutation regarding cases that were able to treat those in the same household without also contracting Id also refer you to read the ACTUAL WHO document regarding their finding after sending 9 qualified professionals to research the disease in China on February 25th that found that transmission rate was although a high RO around 7 Read the sourcesI find reddit to be invaluable for researching this but the misinformation is rampant Dont cling to titles of articles either read the articles|0 Thank you for the advice I didnt even think about the tape thing I appreciate the knowledge|1 I think Ireland has a 100 person cap indoors and 500 outdoors Might just be a recommendation not sure|0 We are always gonna need food so I would say that is one of the most important jobs|1 I am flabbergasted Oh my gosh That is insane|0 Yes it kinda means something different in economics and yes this person is using it wrong|1 Lol no we cant|1 Im a fan of those vaccines Varicella Hep B HPV not so muchFor your info we do vaccinate our children we just have to follow a less aggressive schedule due various illnesses|0 Hard to tell those nonaffected regions apart from the nontesting regions Italy certainly had a bunch of cases for not being an affected regionCountries should basically just start saying that any country that doesnt test all people with symptoms will itself be considered affected and travellers subject to quarantine|1 Same here LOL|1 Great question PM me I hired someone with a dirty background and I may have some tips|1 Capitalism is our dear friend|1 He just had walking pneumonia And hes a whole lot better now|1 Moneys running tight and need to be funneled to the really crising parts of the welfare The Social democrats motto for the last 20 years has been Democracy and proper values can solve anything if we just throw money at it and outsource political decisions to the market forces Its not been working too well which shows by the Social Democrats polling at their lowest popularity numbers since the 1800s|1 This post has eased my anxiety a significant amount Thank you so much for taking your time to research and post that|1 Or they begin to see that communicable diseases are a serious concern and start taking precautions all the timeYou seem to have a great deal of faith in the intelligence of the average person|1 Ontario alone has tested more people than ALL of the US So has BC|0 We have an patient 31 as well Remember the woman that flew 3 different flights from Iran while symptomatic then went on to take public transit without a mask before finally being diagnosed|1 This is fake newshttpsmfacebookcomyasharchitposts3101605686550147|0 Looks like he was supposed to get test results today|1 I tried to send a package today via FedEx then UPS but I was not able to get over the sticker shock From NYC FiDi to Chongqing 250 to send a small box containing 25 masks Wowwee|0 I have a coworkerfriend with the same mentality its beyond frustrating|0 Would really love those tips Thanks so much|1 Hey OP I fully agree with what youre saying Its a terrible mindset and people will always worry for themselves first Personally as a somewhat healthy mid twenties person Im super scared of getting it as Im worried I might die if I do get it and also worried for close family members who would be in the category of what you saidIve never seen anyone say or confirm that young people my age should not worry however And honestly I really need to hear that its not a deathticket if I do get it|0 Just wanted to thank you for this comment|1 Quarantine a couple thousands all at once Sounds good to me|1 Theyve already fucked it The NHS will probably be overwhelmed in the next few weeks just from the people whove already been infected over the weeks of inaction This virus spreads FAST and there seem to be quite a lot of asymptomatic carriers like children or people who have very mild symptoms and dont even realise they have it Also the governments declaration that the plan is to have everyone get it so we can get immunity and get over it means a not insubstantial number of people are now deliberately trying to get it because they think they can get over it quick and be immune Ive already heard this from 3 friends of mine I think I am just going to go out to parties crowded areas the bus not worry about washing my hands etc so I can get it faster and my other friend showed me a facebook post of people hosting a coronavirus party for everyone to get coronavirus so they can get over and it and get immunity just like how parents will do with kids and chickenpox its insane|1 Yep TRUMP 2020|1 Free unicorns|1 I get that but theyre saying that lcov is the one that is killing people so it must have been around since the beginning Or has scov been killing people too|0 do you not read the comments before you make claims like that|1 Thought this was a shit post on Wall Street bets What the fuck is this|0 A month to prepare and get our shit together Nope Thoughts and prayers will take care of it|0 Would be nice to see them do something Even if it wasnt money Couldnt the owner of Amazon offer some extra support to his staff in the UK Could James Dyson donate 100m to a research institution to find a vaccine He has 5 billion and they often say we are all in this together etc|1 I wish quarantine procedures worked but this is all they breed in practice Just another thing for the list of good ideas in the hypothetical but disastrous in practice|0 The most prepared at sweeping it under the rug|1 Well said|1 What in the fuck does it matter If you have symptoms you have some kind of infection whether covid19 or not so limit your exposure to others and isolate Knowing if its covid19 or not changes nothingWere passed the point where testing is useful and at the point of closing all gatherings over 10 people already What changes when you know whether you have it or not Were you planning on going out Were you planning on getting tested constantly for the foreseeable future Because testing takes a few days and you could get infected in the meantime Or right after getting the test Literally nothing changes by knowing if you have it now|0 require a mandatory 14 day selfquarantineDo you know how ridiculous that sentence is If its required its not a self quarantine Also theyll have absolutely no way to enforce it which is why they cant make it mandatoryBut I do agree with you that they should remind people to selfquarantine to minimize exposure|0 Extra precautions should be taken especially when you know very little about a new airborne virus There is no reason why not to unless of course there are conflict of interests like a authoritarian dictatorship losing legitimacy if things looks too bad under their watchI dont see why perfectly good advice like thishttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsewa651psaifyouareinchinahandlecashwithextreme handle cash with care gets taken down unless you worry about the economy1 factor in CCP legitimacy more than potentially spreading the infections even furtherx200BEditStrangeYet this is allowed Isnt Cash much worse since Cash changes unknown hands much more often than a personal cellphone httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsew8zh7imsurprisedthatdisinfectyourcellphonehasntutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsew8zh7imsurprisedthatdisinfectyourcellphonehasntutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x|0 IKR PCR tests are giving false negatives already imagine that kitIf you search last month they developed a PCR Kit that works in 15 min I wonder why no one uses it|1 From what I understand there is a sizable amount of asymptomatic cases and cases that are much milder than the flu|0 That is very true theres no such thing as a crystal ball|1 There has to be some incentiveWhy they move in the first place And what will make them come back Shouldnt be a shocker it is all about making more money|1 Your circling of logic is astounding|1 Impressive amount of 1s|1 Publix just said fuck it and moved to reduced hours because why the fuck be open with empty shelves|0 No life wont return to normal even if the entire continent stayed inside for 14 days It wont magically disappear if we all stayed inside for 14 days People need to understand if they still dont change their habits after the initial 14 days and keep at it the virus will just come back After the initial spike since the virus still lingers in the communities it will randomly pop up and yes it does become easier to manage but it also becomes a game of whack a mole the virus is either popping up randomly or it gets brought in by a traveler So its really about sustained social distancing like what those people in Korea have done and tons of testing contact tracing to catch as many of the infected as possible Stop the spread gif httpsenwikipediaorgwikiCoronavirusdisease2019mediaFileCovid19curvesgraphic2stopthespreadv3gifhttpsenwikipediaorgwikiCoronavirusdisease2019mediaFileCovid19curvesgraphic2stopthespreadv3gif|0 A fancy respirator mask would probably be a better use of your money|1 Costs or time may be involved30 minutes or so on high heat for smaller numbers better heat penetration of items could benefit|1 Ill be honest Ive been trying to disconnect the numbers from the people because its fucked I cant imagine how helpless people must feel in China Its heartbreaking|0 Wow And that was a less deadly virus than this one|1 Why does the chart image exclude Hubei in the stats Thats the province for Wuhan|0 The last few weeks have made me really want to move to Korea|1 He was attending class for nearly an entire week This occurred at UMass boston and there is a body of students with respiratory infections now being tested My gfs friend goes to school there|1 The problem is that 38 of nurses have children in school So if the kids are off school whos gonna look after them A lot of nurses will have to stay home so there wont be enough nurses to look after the sick people|0 Until you have a hairy bhole of your own you cant imagine the struggle And if you are a guy that hasnt tried baby wipes yet you arent living|1 Thank you This is the truth|1 Right Exactly like your entire comment history Im dead|0 Apparently spreading diseasesviruses is a thing some like to do that so I hear|1 Thank you Ive been worried about the process of taking food from the doorstep inside but that sounds like a solid routine|1 China has a historyhttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiBattleofSuiyang of this sort of thinghttpsenmwikipediaorgwikiGreatLeapForward Im almost curious if this post will be deleted|1 The US is great in certain things healthcare though its absolute shit Pretty crazy how dysfunctional it is|1 I came across the following perspective I can not verify its authenticity so take it for what its worth I hope it helps|1 Maybe hes the one giving it to them|1 The way I think about it of course human rights violations are bad and of course we should base decisions in expertise But we dont have the expertise we dont know if travel bans and quarantines work We could delay the decision while trying to figure it out but doing the research to find out would take some time During that time the virus might spread further and turn out to be more serious than previously estimated And then when we finally have expertise to make a decision on whether to impose travel bans we might just find we should have done it long ago Or not of course theres the chance that we find out travel bans dont work anyway But theres a lot of unknowns and I cant blame anyone for thinking better safe than sorry in that regard But they should still do the research to figure out if the decision should stand Doing one thing is a human rights violation but doing the other may leave your population more susceptible to a deadly epidemic and making a moral choice between the two is hard|0 Usually yes they do|1 Weird I saw this comment and the ad on my podcast player at nearly the same moment httpsiimgurcomunvbZsqjpgWhats elysium anyway |0 Please contact your mayor your governor your senators your representatives and ALL of your local news outlets The CDC needs to be pressured This is so incredibly frustrating|0 ok|1 That should be flagged good news|1 I dont know if its a cognitive bias or if everyone is actually sick but god damn you cant get on a bus or go into a bar without people coughing next to you|0 Of course our best hospitals are really good we have a lot of innovation however it all costs a lot of money which the common people dont have|1 I remember new years in HK wifes cousin down from Shanghai talks about something SARSy happening in Hubei Couldnt find anything about it on Reddit but there was some stuff on LIHKG It all seemed pretty tinfoilhat until first WK of Jan Shit got real really fast I started seeing little blips on Reddit but January was blowing up in Chinese language social Wife I booked flights to US for last day of CNY cheeeeap I been following ever since Not so dumb luck that Chinaflu would evade the pinks but this is the sub where I started seeing nonChinese start talkingrCoronavirus was cool for a minute Now its running on Xi Jinping thought|1 Really excellent interview Super informative and insightful This debacle is a result of failure at multiple levels local state national as well as CDC but the President of the United States ultimately bears responsibility as Chief Executive Trump has been 180 degrees in the wrong direction in his approach and execution during this pandemic His supporters have to know that A pandemic is one of the few things you cant just talk your way out of You need real chops serious commitment to seeking out the truth empowering subordinates and taking decisive and incisive action even when it might seem politically or optically an L We need a real leader right now not a showman|1 Update Facing an avalanche of bad publicity Labrador announced on Tuesdayhttpswwwbusinesswirecomnewshome20200316005955en that it would grant royaltyfree licenses to companies developing COVID19 tests The company also claims it didnt know that BioFire was working on a coronavirus test when it filed its lawsuit last week The company seems to be going forward with the lawsuitThanks uaixaves|0 Theyre going to have to make it mandatory I think Part of the problem is that people arent going to comply with suggestions given to them by leaders who have been untruthful and inconsistent The messaging has been very mixed|0 China should be sanctioned as they fucked up and told the world they have resolved already Everyone knows they are lying|0 966 new recoveredthats a huge jump from yesterday|1 If this counts as taxable income im going to be pissed|0 Also I know people who been there and witness nearly all the men smoke but NO women were|0 I said this another thread got downvoted to fuck Not sure why Nations should immediately treat Singapore the way they are treating China Stop flights and ban people who have been there from entering your country for 14 daysI agree As others have mentioned Singaporean situation is now a great threat Unlike China and HK there are no skepticism harboured towards Singaporean travellers yet|0 AM23 Your post requires Moderator review Please understand this measure is needed to insure the quality of posts presented on rnCoVI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetornCoV if you have any questions or concerns|1 Ive seen several reports of patients recovering but then their symptoms return and in some cases the return of symptoms is when the patient succumbs to the virus This was most recently reported in the second confirmed case in North Carolina That patient returned from Italy in February after his original symptoms resolved but now they have reemerged How concerned should we be about reports of reemerging symptoms after a supposed recovery|1 Not officially yet but that doesnt really mean it isnt here undetected Unfortunately people around me think thats silly to assume that though and Im going too far in assuming its here Hilarious|1 They arent testing until youre too sick to ask for testing|0 buses all electric to be fair|1 Additional note my 17yo works parttime at a local hospital as part of school program We want to think whatever she came down with came from her work there|1 I would zap it in the microwave when it arrives just to be sure |1 Perhaps this is the case but why then the vast majority of people show lymphopenia judging by the reports Im not sure that the virus can sit in the body for 3 weeks and do absolutely nothing at least it avoids the immune response which means that the virions in the body are present The question is where and in what form Unfortunately or fortunately I am also not a doctor|0 Lol Its not like you said something crazy Sounds totally plausible I think you can get away without proof on this one|0 I wish people would pay attention I hope we are all wrong and infection spread slowsAfter tomorrow I personally will not leave my apartment except to go to work I unfortunately have to buy some pants and clothes for work on sunday though Also while out I will probably grab the last of the supplies I want grab I already dont like the idea though because I am the care taker of a immunocompromised family member|1 I never asked you to feel bad for us you dont have to|0 There isnt nearly enough celebrities for this to make any difference whatsoever at the end of the day were talking maybe 10000 people over 8 billion and see how that shrinks per countryNow consider this elite people have incredible velocity and contacts in the world flying jets metting the whos who 10x a day on a good day etc This means they are orders of magnitude bigger vectors than anyone else any domain whether Sean Caroll or Lebron James or Tom Hanks Even secluded they typically have entourage when a famous person is infected the reality and antihoax sentiment related to the virus grows 1000000 x faster yes very accurate statistic You get the point It raises awareness and lets people spread a message much better faster Its the good part of a star system so lets use it in dire times So you absolutely want to screen the most exposed people first whatever the reason Its not just a privilege of wealth its also just cold health crisis strategy if you ask me speak like Machiavelli Montesquieu Toqueville here how to get the results we want how to battle the damn thing most efficiently|1 Close the borders to all foreign nationals periodAbout that about half the country is very opposed to knowing who crosses the southern border political pressure has been heavy to keep it open heavily subsidized testing and care for infected Mandatory federal quarantine for infectedIf things run out we will tap the strategic reserves its why we have them A perk of that is they are already paid for protect sick workers from job loss using sick daysThe mortality rate is as high as the unemployment rate histrionically speaking these events result in labor shortages The kind of company that will fire its people for not breaking quarantine also wont be competitive in convincing people to work for themSit back and relax Take a bit of joy in the fact your main concerns during a global disaster that is taking aim at killing more people then both world wars combined is about your financial futureWhen shit blows over we will fix things|0 Theyll eventually see the results of it im sure|1 Im talking aside from herd immunityDo you have references for the virus causing death and lung damage in young healthy people|0 I totally agree with you They should have learned and they didnt|1 This whole situation reminds me of the film Contagion If you havent watched it Id highly recommend it|0 Go check out the other thread where this guy claims to be a doctor and then proceeds to say like OMG TRUMP IS DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB BECAUSE HES NOT CAUSING A PANIC Its like trump obsession syndrome TOS|1 Jolly rancher Skittle|1 Tbh I would love to see Trump run through a bunch of middle school health class questions and give his candid thoughts Legit chance that he believes unshakeably in like not getting pregnant if you get down in a hot tub|1 No but we did quadruple over the course of a month|0 Theyre not testing because if news comes that a nurse got coronavirus while wearing protective equipment you can bet tons of nurses all around the United States would quit|1 When I drove Uber for a few months when I was unemployed years ago I was happy that anyone tipped me anything at all I figured if each person gave me a buck I would have least payed for my gas that day Of course most people didnt even do that|1 Would you have liked me to bring you a bottle of my own vomit for proof No Then I wont put it in the breakroom microwave on High before I know you take your lunch breakRetail bosses like that are dehumanizing and its deplorable behavior Paula Thurston and Chris you all know what you did|0 Curious if it would be possible to adapt and convert a CPAP machine into a makeshift ventilator|1 Your comment contains unsourced speculation Claims made in rCOVID19 should be factual and possible to substantiate If you believe we made a mistake please contact us Thank you for keeping rCOVID19 factual|1 2021 the rise of super bacteria|1 Trumps presidency wont be in such Great Shape if theyre shown to be utterly unprepared and the health care system collapses as this virus rips through the country Nothing like a crisis to show the public the truth and incompetence of dear leader and no amount of media spin can salvage a reputation from the opened eyes of the voting public This happened in Australia to our prime minister post bush fires and he is extremely lucky there is no pending election Trump will not be so lucky|1 Old news at this point How many more people need to hear this before the denial stops|0 Its good that they preemptively close the schools before cases appear I hope they stay closed|1 Haha I guess I didnt think of that True enough Thank you for the username analysis|1 is fake he fakes to enter in the quarantined zone just to have likes|0 without a 100 compliance rate you cant get rid of the cases we have Canadians having to wait for six months to get a blood test wont help either|0 Interesting Thanks for the reply Ill go do some reading on that I didnt realize that it had been done before|1 I used to use Folding at home a long time ago It was interesting Ive heard you can earn crypto currency with it I should consider going back|1 Whatever drugs youre on please tell us so we can avoid themWhy zero counter argumentation Would be glad to hear really|1 Im pretty annoyed with the Public Health authorities who are telling people not to wear masks saying that people who dont look sick cant spread the disease etc Its almost like a deliberate disinfo campaign Its not like a pandemic or deadly infectious disease is a new idea that nobody ever thought of before Its crazy like having the Fire Department that says we never expected to have to deal with a big fire or dont worry about where you throw your matches or cigarette butts it cant start a fire and even if it does most fires arent deadly Not sure how much longer we can tolerate clown world responses to real world problems|1 Here is the flipside The virus could totally wipe out the democrat candidates Bernie Sanders 78 years oldMichael Bloomberg 78 years oldJoe Biden 77 years oldElizabeth Warren 70 years oldTom Steyer 62 years oldAmy Klobuchar 59 years oldLiterally the only person under 40 still technically in the race is Pete Buttigieg 38 years oldCompared to Trump who can decrease the number of public appearances he does it would hurt the Democratic candidates to reduce their appearances at events events with lots of peopleIn a really bad timeline this could end up being a very very weird election|0 We all fucked|0 This is amazing|1 So youre saying theres a chance Boris could be out in 8 months|1 This is true and I really wish everyone knew it I asked my boss the other day which room on our unit has negative air flow for airborne precautions and she didn t know|1 Yeah the virus isnt the risk|1 If BCs cases increase Torontos the only city you seem to care about the most cases will inevitably increase too unless you want to build a border within Canada So its probably in your best interest to look at Canada as a whole because the virus knows no borders and were all in this together If BC goes down were taking all of Canada down with it Note Theres probably evidence of Toronto showing poor contact tracing out there but Im not going to find it for you|1 By the way does we have the status of people who has covered from the virus We can indeed find numbers outside China about the current people who are treated and recovered But I wasnt able to find number of Chinese who has the virus and has been recovered|1 Thanks thats a good explanation|1 bless lol|1 Im surprised so many companies are this close to the brink that even after a few weeks of supply delays theyre in the shit|1 yeah doctor is a fucking idiot the hospital is full of a lot worse things than Coronavirus nosocomial diseases cause more deaths each year than all flus combined|0 This is probably the scariest thing about our modern world You never know what the truth isEither the coronavirus is a mild flu or its going to kill a lot of people and I still dont know what to believe|0 A WARREN ZEVON FAN IN THE WILD BRO i have dont let us get sick tattooed on my arm ive been listening non stop|0 Ill be sure to pass on your message what I can tell you right now behind the scenes is that it is truly a lot of work but we are trying to stay on top of it|1 Turkey is in Asia but if you called them Asians most people would think youre being obtuse and I think most Turks would think youre trying to start a fight|0 March 1519 Youre wrong|0 People seriously |0 And for the next election just flip it around again with some clever district manipulation and an appeal to rural emotions|1 Parttime teacher without a full load subbing in the off periods yeah no pay here all my teacher friends still pulling a check tough times|1 Not all heroes wear capes|0 Im wondering if Ill have trouble getting food in the following weeksmonths I was planning to renovate and dont currently have a stove or oven only refrigerator and microwave I get all my food from restaurants and fresh fruitsveggies prepared stuff from the store If this gets so bad that togo food is unavailable Ill be pretty stuck I guess I can get some cannedfrozen things but things like pasta and flour I cant use right now|0 Beyond this outbreak we are also facing a future where those who recover from C19 related pneumonia are likely to have reduced lung functionI suspect this is going to go into history as being comparable to 911 in terms of dramatically changing how the public perceives a previously unrealized threat and there are going to be long term health repercussions that wont be immediately apparent to the general population|0 Yes part of moderating is ensuring that lies and crazy nonsense doesnt run rampant|0 In NYC you get physically mobbed and beaten if you are asian and wear a mask Its no surprise people are scared to wear them IF you want to blame somebody blame the dumbass racists|0 Agree unfortunately Americans suck when it comes to caring about anyone but themselves Just bc most cases are mild doesnt mean all are The fatality rate for the flu is 1 while covid19 is between 35 I think they are starting to take it seriously though our schools are closed for the next 2 weeks with further action TBD|0 Business as usual for his adminA little jaded way to describe what is probably the best course of action in this situation No matter who the president is it does not benefit Americans in any way to publicly announce that our Commander in Chief has a potentially fatal illness|0 My parents want to go to florence in a month They have a cancellation insurance should they cancel i rly dunno|0 Great article|1 Good guy coronavirus|1 Its the whole chain debt needs to be serviced to Shaky lending is going to be exposed if this drags out banks will fail maybe not in Canada but other places and it will be felt worldwideIm glad the government acknowledged the impact We have no idea how that translates into policy but at least they are aware of it|0 Yeah we have to test everyone Even those who has no simptomsJust to show good numbers|1 Oh Danke war da kurz verzweifelt und musste mir von google translate hilfe holen D|0 YESBe preemptiveThis is an interspecies war on a global level stop it before it starts|0 Did anyone else hear is voice break a little like he was about to cry I know he feels for this country and he really care for all of us He took us out of one of the worst economic crisis and now hes doing all of he can with extreme intelligence He know Italians and he knows he has to do this with tiny steps to make us listen and obey the rules And its working this man will be foverer remember like one of the best PM Italy has ever had|1 Their only hearing the bits they WANT to hearA lot of people do this and Im so tired of it especially when it involves this pandemicI would love to start believing this thing is going to disappear over night and there will be no consequences for our poor actions But logic and reality dont give a shit what we WANT to believeI 100 believe the government have talked to scientists buuut their only hearing the we could be lucky or this good thing IS maybe possible parts of it|1 didnt realize i was doing any of those things just injecting some humor during an awful and stressful time|0 Nah thank god but Ive had nonScottish ladies do worseSeems like AEER cases are seen quickly in either system and the real difference comes with nonemergency cases My last visit was not an ER visit minor concussion but I was seen in just a few mins anyway I bet my bill cost more than yours though|1 An age graph of the infected in Korea would be useful actually critical to making an assertion about the outbreak there|0 I really love this idea and if I can make some time I will definitely try this out Thank you very much|1 lol if you think that doesnt happen even moreso in socialist countries|1 fuck this elon|0 Wow Ive been on here since January and never heard this about the normal flu Mind making a post with sources I think more would benefit from this|1 What You would buy more than you need if the product costed way more than it originaly cost Mostlikley not unless you are rich and just want to be an asshole|1 Is it going down I dont watch the daily numbers I couldnt tell if your being sarcastic or not|0 I think youre absolutely right in what you say about people acting like theyre experts when they have no idea what theyre talking about but I always have a lot of doubts about people who claim they used to be a certain type of person but have now seen the light when they have no post history Again not that it really matters because either way youre right but if you find youre getting doubt from people that might be one reason for it|0 But the government has not implemented no measures they have just not done what other countries have done There is a big difference I would not classify myself as naively optimistic rather a realist I cannot say the government has got everything right I am know there are things that could be done better Specifically around communication but that does not mean there approach to resolve this situation is wrong|1 Can you pls point out|1 This article is bullshit Its written by a local guy who is just looking to make the left look badHere in Seattle all parents can keep their kids home from school if they want And teaches are to provide 2 weeks worth of lessonsThe question was asked Why isnt the district providing online learning And the answer was that not everyone has access to technology or internet at home Which agree or disagree this has nothing to do with the decision to keep the kids at school|0 Start with a general strike Need a out 10 million across the country and probably shouldnt do it during a pandemic mass boycotts need something akin to the Boston Tea Party I am bit terribly positive as well about things but the fabric of society is more fragile than we think and we need to break it in our favor|1 Now if the rest of the world can just get as hot and humid with a government and public as competent as Singapore well be totally fine But seriously I hope that this proves that western style public health campaigns can prevent exponential spread That would be good news if it just meant that everyone who is affected this year can get high quality treatment even if it is still spreading next year|1 8 billions I hope you realize that here we are going back to stick and stones right|1 Fuck him|0 Yes this is what Im afraid of My wife is a stay at home mom Im the sole provider for us and our three kids and also for my mother who has cancer Im so damn worried about what happens if I contract this virus I couldnt work but then what What happens to my family Whos gonna pay the bills|0 Awesome now just need it if you dont have symptoms|1 Yes See the graphs here httpswwwarcgiscomappsopsdashboardindexhtmlbda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6|1 ill be honest i read your original comment as soon as i woke up and the tone of it went right over my head lol|1 Yup not to sound like a broken record but as others have stated you wont have cases if you dont test|0 like asthma dang |1 Thats the governments fault for not preparing for the pandemic though And the blame needs to be placed on them In the meantime we need to ramp up production of them as much as possible and begin distributing to as many people as we can|0 Ah yes the top notch government of Iran Really a government of the people Thanks uBernBernieBern |1 Yes I am very much aware of this I think you are just trying to pick at my statement vecause you cant argue against it Saying look at what is happening in Europe is far easier than saying look at what is happening and then listing every European country My statement still stands|1 Yeah but you cant change procedures that quickly especially for hospitality companies such as the one that owns both the Diamond and the Grand Princess ships I am not excusing any questionable policies they may or may not have I am simply saying its not easy to implement new measures in a short period of timeI have never been on a cruise myself but the fact the Diamond Princess went from a few cases to 700 in just a few days indicate that something isnt working The first reports for the Grand Princess mentions quite a few staff tested positive I would not be surprised if among those were people that handle food If there are food buffets on the ship those are one ideal means for the virus to spread Close proximity to others may be another factor|1 Its MUTATING Its getting stronger and stronger We Are Screwed|1 Oh geez Do not panic ffs Keep calm and follow the instruction Downvote please Spreading panic is bad|1 Would also like to know|1 So I read a couple of Facebook comments on a Austin 360 post Apparently some are getting the swab sample done by a doctor but the State Health department is refusing to test it That is some bullshit|0 Around 20 million people get flu in US each year so 5 of that would be 1 million people dead While a regular flu only results in 50k deadCancer kills around 600k per yearSo a new disease would result in more deaths than cancer if it spreads Thats really small lol|0 I dont think this is a big problem Those weeks even some Baby Paper diaper factory just trun thier machines to product masks And some drink factory to product Disinfector But it will make a serious damage on the machine it can not be used again after this|0 Do you really think the government would do that Just go on the record and tell lies|0 So the 1 Trillion or so that the mega rich didnt have to pay back into society had zero real effectYou mean there is no effect overall when 1 Trillion isnt going back into the budget Lol okThey sure made out like bandits with their stock buybacks and CEO raises all while cutting jobs and benefits Fuck the rich made a steal with the savings they didnt have to pay into the tax system|1 Because his supporters believe that coronavirus is being overblown by the Democrats and the media to hurt his reelection chances It is sad and crazyKnown cases in US should surpass 500 by the end of the day|0 The article actually has really good preparation tips|1 Ok time to guess the three companies that make industrial pumps|1 Ive heard that the reason they arent testing suspicious cases is because theres a shortage on tests but I dont have a good source for this|0 Only if by migratory pattern of infected species you mean humans|0 Yeah was Director for Medical Preparedness on the National Security Council among other government positions|1 Deep breathThere are concerns of ibuprofen aggravating conditions SourcehttpswwwphysiciansweeklycomfrancewarnsagainstuseParacetamol is just what Europe calls acetaminophen Tylenol|0 I get so annoyed because I am a health care provider in the hospital and so many people are worried about the wrong things for the wrong reasons They say if you look it really only kills old people Oh so fuck old people amirites I happen to like my parents They never mention the immunocompromised so I guess people dont like to think about that part since it could get sadOk so get this even if it does only affect old people our hospitals in the US cant handle taking care of all of these new patients We get noticeably busier and strained during flu season when its just the flu We had offandon mask shortages even before Covid19 What are we going to do Nobody seems too worried about the health care systems or any employees that have to routinely interact with the infected wearing insufficient PPE because of the shortage To top it off at the hospital I work people have been stealing masks from us Someone stole a giant hand sanitizer stand from the entrance to the cafeteria the place where people need it the most Im seriously worried this is going to make every aspect of my job more difficult and the public doesnt really care if I get exposed because I chose to work in a hospital And if I do get exposed I cant even ask for workmans comp to cover my mandatory quarantine unless I can pin it on a certain patientIm so mad at how selfish all of it is Then when it starts to affect them theyll all turn into activists with a bunch of thoughts and prayers and GoFundMes for all the younger people in their 40s that die You know the ones we can all agree on that its actually sad and unfair that they died s Its so frustrating Im glad to see other people that feel the way I do|0 So WW2 was just incompetence Dropping nukes on 100s of thousands of japs was just incompetence WW1 was just incompetence all the other things were just incompetencex200BYeah lets please stay with the facts PLEASE|0 Its like Ive been hearing the same story for months |1 Most airlines are refunding and crediting towards another ticket|1 dont forget ear and butt plugs|1 Im pretty sure theyre testing 4 times Thats why testing takes so long|1 its ironic because all the Republicans said Obama was going to declare martial law and then Trump ends up being the one that does it lol haha|1 Makes sense Lack of sleep and poor nutrition even lacking personal hygiene like showering regularly all have an impact on our immune system and overall well being|1 My habit of ignoring the mail until the mailbox overflows has finally paid off Bills are essentially all online at this point why should I go collect the spam|0 Is that the official number now|1 We need to push govt for the emergency UBI|0 Im in South Korea and the cases just increased sevenfold over the last 2 days Last night was the night for me I feel like everythings changed|1 Look at that masks are effective|1 go on and on about how masks work to prevent the diseaseit is better to say that the masks help in lowering your chances of contracting the disease in terms of actual prevention maybe it is effective 60 of the time mainly because the eyesocular orifice dont go through the reflex of inhaling in and out it is not like the eyes are doing conscious inhaling of the air and air particulates into the body like what is happening with the mouth and the nose so the major or main way that the organism will most likely get the virus is through the orifices which suck in not the eyes Similarly it is just like how wearing a condom doesnt technically prevent stdspregnancies but you can use that type of wording and say prevents |1 I personally would enjoy staying home with my kids and their playing with friends via online video games It would be quite a memory those months spent playing video games all the time because of the pandemicBut its financially feasible for me to lose work for a while|1 I work in Massachusetts not too far outside Boston and its still business as usual Half my office is coughing and sneezing and no one seems to be taking it seriously People are still bringing in snacks to share like a bag of popcorn in the break room and cookies etc One guy has been mysteriously absent for almost 2 weeks after weeks if dry coughing all over the office not covering his mouth at all Working from home isnt an option here because our president is a Boomer who thinks coming to work when sick is some kind of badge of honorI cant afford to stay home for multiple weeks without pay the USMassachusetts needs to figure out some kind of policies or supplemental income for hourly workers Mass introduced a new tax for financial assistance during long absences due to illness but I dont think it goes into effect until 2021|0 Surely then its just a case of tweaking the dosage to leave your own immune system to do more of the work|1 WA just provided an update a few minutes agohttpswwwdohwagovEmergenciesCoronavirus with the latest deaths Their count is now 16 CA has 1 and FL has 2 So 19 seems to be the correct number right now|1 The concept is letting everyone wearing it so those potential patients will not feel uncomfortable to do so and reduce their spreading rate|1 No shit|0 Sorry I mean like similar to whats happened in parts of China where millions are told to stay in their homes|1 alcohol kills viruses I think I might have to much blood in my alcohol system right now|0 Im tired of people calling me a fearmonger for quoting official statistics and saying things have the potential to get worse|0 I dont know what crystals youre using but mine definitely have a more regular and lighttransmissive structure than that|1 This question is very ominous If even 1 in 3 have that attitude there might as well be no social isolation at all|0 No way This will happen time and time again around the country|0 How badly do you think Americans want access to Canada|0 What do you suggest the movement be Especially as they would be more prone to getting sick so theyre supposed to have social isolation and not have people be around them|0 I mean you could also have sex with the flu and transmit that too doesnt mean its STI|0 The image Western media has created in China is terrible Not just with this but even before this Im not going to disregard the issues they have but most media is hard to trust when it comes to anything Chinarelated And can the American media stop showing Asians in masks when reporting on Covid19|1 well that is not appropriate either There needs to be a pretty strong reason to do a CT and flu symptoms are not enough The lungs would have to sound like crap poor oxygen levels would be two of the main criteria and even then a regular chest Xray is more appropriate Any CT needs to have the benefits outweigh the risk due to the high radiation exposure|1 Get a bidet Much better than baby wipes I have all the things and its been life changing You still use a tiny bit of toilet paper to dry with but its so much better in the long run|1 Jeuss Christ is it not obvious that the only Wuhan infected CCP is containing the virus sstyle of posts is sarcasm LOL the fuck man SMH|0 There are legitimate reasons to criticize Pencehttpswwwcnncom20200227politicsmikepencehivindianacoronavirusindexhtmlHe was very slow to act it took him 6 months to act on this with the needle exchenge program Maybe Trump should have put Fauci in charge if he is so expierienced|0 Its not the common cold obviously and for such a smart guy thats an absurd statement|1 A train wreck where half the people in the train are denying that its happening|0 This makes no sense After 14 days some will have the disease More have been exposed so then you have to continue quarantinee|0 I think it was simplified to show the change rapidlyRealistically the data space would be larger with more silos and a few super spreaders but it was designed to communicate quickly and clearly and did so wellWe can get all of society their data science degrees with next weeks 4 min WAPO article Right now we need people to not go to fucking Saint Patricks day parades|1 Buzzfeed News occasionally puts out great articles Their true crime articles and exposs in particular are very good But their politics and science stuff I go elsewhere for those news|1 Well every Olmpics the OC hands out condoms to prevent the spread of one virus This time they can hand out masks too to stop the spread of another virus|1 Its still deadlier than the flu And people outside the high risk groups have died from this|0 And one in China about an infected person getting off the bus and another guy getting on half an hour later and contracting it|0 Good for you money is never worth it in the endeither the stress of worrying or the potential to get infected You did the right thing Helping others to see the way tooTo anyone else travelling its not all about YOU You may be fine but you may infect and kill other people Your money is not as important as other peoples lives or your own life Cancel plans and look forward to planning another trip in the future Its time to pull together as a nation not a time to be selfish|0 He understands it He just feels the need to lie to people for his benefit|1 These are only confirmed cases I feel like its probaly 10x that|1 Yeah people act like no one has reason to travel or idk family or partners in other countries|1 Oh misread that deleted the first reply Ill link it to you when I see it is out But I guess somebody will be faster with posting it here on the sub |0 That or let a small group of elites make a life or death decision for the general populationor not do the Herd Immunity social experiment|0 Ive heard this from a friend of mine who knows two people in the military Same thing verbatim|1 Sounds like the terminator|1 Except if they dont protect you why do doctors use them now I happened to have a few masks I was going to use for going into our crawlspace so Im good but your argument is illogical|0 You should fill your meds for the next few months now just in case they run out My mom takes hydrochloroquine and told her to get as much as she can given the expected demand with covid|0 If theyre not ill anymore why do we have to wait till March to see if theyre ill stillThey are still ill and infecting others now just their symptoms are not that bad so far We should see if their condition gets progressively better or worse|1 Do you have kids Are you divorced Do you have elderly parents Do you have a college education Are you a POC Are you a woman What kind of obstacles do you have Not everyone is in a position where they can save|1 Im not sure Ive seen anywhere that they say the death toll is conclusive The death toll is basically people who died who had a positive diagnostic test for ncov The last part of that sentence is at the very least implied and understood by anyone in the medical field Id guess|0 Well considering that we humans have farmed pigs for centuries and lots of people eat pork every day Its not badSo its entirely based on because lots of people eat pork everyday so its acceptable right Im pretty sure lots of people eat lots of other stuffs too considering China has the biggest population on earth just like there are many people in Asia likes in Korea eating dogs actually very delicious you should try some even snakes and cobras are quite tasty as well if you can find some decent chefs that know how to remove their venomous sac firstPeople in China are not forced to eat bats Thats their own decisions and eventually theyve made their own bedYou are acting like those extreme vegans criticising others for eating meat You cannot simply forced your opinions and saying others are backwards|1 Doesnt cloud IaaS make this type of distributed processing model obsolete|0 Wow suicide missions already Things slid so fast|0 We were apparently partly into the delay phase as of TuesdayWeds but now theyve backtracked and said were teetering off the edge so ironically it seems like theyre trying to delay officially going into the delay phase as much as possible|0 Makes absolutely no sense why the UK wasnt included in the first wave of travel bans from Europe Because Trump owns properties there|0 This is great but we need about 100 more and need them to be open all day with more tests Keep it up though Colorado|1 Yup its been a real shitty couple of decades for the west|0 Looks that way They should stay in their protected safe space instead of calling for censorship here|1 I watched the interview and I truly believe he intended to imply that the irresponsible rhetoric was from democrats since they were also referenced in Savannah Guthries question but he forgot to specify so it just sounded like an admission I dont think he would admit ANYTHING like this on purpose|1 At my company theyve posted that we will need to use any accrued sick time or vacation time We will also be subject to normal attendance policies Full time workers should be fine with doctors notes but part time employees will have to unschedule themselves for a week at a time if they want to keep their job|0 30 billion in various aid and packagesPretty amazing stuffDont want to be negative Gobsmacked at what theyve announced but it does make you think what do they know that we dontYou could build a third of HS2 with that|1 So I should walk around with a fan on my chest instead of a clock like Flavor Flav|1 I like this postPlease cross post if you like and join httpsoldredditcomrTheCoronavirus|1 You scream like you know it but youre just one of many unreasonable noise Even if you were right youre doing no good or even bad It takes dedication to be troll and it takes knowledge and skills to educate or inform others|0 This particularly person was not repatriated as they were not bringing back actively infected individuals Persons were screened coming back and were only flown back if they past the screening they still went into quarantine once they got back to the UK however but no one repatriated has of yet died This website is particularly useful for keeping track in real time httpswwwworldometersinfocoronavirusmar01news|0 Good news for kids under 9 bad news for everyone else theyre spreading it to with no one knowing|0 Dont worry Theres a lot of time between now and then And they WILL tour in 2020 and there WILL be tickets available for you if they have to postpone|1 I didnt get pneumonia but I understand coughing for about 4mths straight Till now I had no idea what happened All the Clinics Hospital and even traditional Chinese medicine doctors had no ideaAs I get older I suffered the same issue but this time the hospital gave me a week worth of Antiboditics and told me this is the strongest meds they have if it does not cure the cough I need to go elsewhere for a stronger doseLucky for me Im cured Probably due to the cough I developed some odd issue that made be throw out anything I ate|0 When lost in the woods you gotta do what you gotta do do|0 This has been my constant worry Govts should provide free healthcare to everyone wrt coronavirus Many of the poor might not test themselves because of budget issues Govt should publicise freecheckups and quarantine measures It should ask funds from big businesses|0 Its already taken off though thats the problem The disease has been spreading exponentially through the UK for weeks now With the limited capacity of the NHS were likely already at the stage at which the NHS is going to collapse just from the people whove been infected up to now in a few weeks timeItaly implemented social distancing measures later and look whats happened to them|0 They dont announce locations to prevent panic They try to safe the economy and hope it goes away with spring weather They say its a bad fever and that pu dont need to close areas unless deadly cases happenI would say it is incompetence instead of being evilWe needed a south korean approach two weeks ago|0 HerdImmunity strategy is inhuman no matter it works or not Elders are given up Human civilization are developed to prevent the old to be given up or killed so we have society manners pensions etc which differs human and animalBoJo shame on you|0 Definitely pop over there A few bits are vat free at the moment in my local store|1 Please tell me how many have been infected in germany again I need my fixIs there a new oneWill I die|0 That really helped me understand thank you And also scary shit|0 Lets all be honest what cured him has Karens essential oilsAll jokes aside Im glad the man survived and wish him well|1 Well sure its possible places tinfoil hat on head A lot of hospitals are run by nonprofit religious organizations as well That could also mean hidden agendas removes tinfoil|1 Take precautions Thats the only way we can avoid being that one person dying from this virus If you read news in Wuhan as families die offthe whole family due to this disease you want to get a mask and stay away from crowds|0 Oh fuck|0 so very poor countries have better health care|1 Not sure the disease can specifically target the poor Considering the UK has a national health service the general population rich or poor are getting the same treatment Its a bit silly of a comment this Regard of if the UK is doing the right thing|0 I thought the party line included the word hoax|1 Duh Companies BETTER take noteemployees are going to remember YOUR response to this and they are going to remember ITHERS response to this Tread carefully|1 What good decisions has the mayor made Name 3 no name 1|1 The tests will come back negative if the viral load in the body is insufficient to generate a positive result With this one it seems the viral load creeps up pretty slowly rather than quicklyThus there really isnt a point to testing somebody ASAP its best to quarantine and monitor|1 The problem is that none of the plans are creative enough nor deal with reality We need a systemic overall of the entire process from tort law on down Simply implementing Medicare for All is not enough That doesnt socialize medicine it just creates a single payer system and it doesnt address the issues of out of control insurance costs for physicians and hospitals It doesnt address a system that allows individuals to walk into an ER with a cold when they should sit at home or visit a clinic It doesnt address the cost of educations for doctors that must be paid back with extremely high wages It doesnt address the shiny expensive facilities that were built by private Healthcare to attract more patients but now must be paid back on Medicare compensation There are a ton of issues that must be addressed We painted ourselves into a corner|1 This is why you need a free press|1 I dont think anyone can say for certain about too many things You can tell us what is plausible or likely but I think every person should be open to the idea of discovering their hypothesis is correct or incorrect The other response here to your comment was the sarcastic remark about the cruise ship think about whether it was droplets or aerosol what on earth do you or I know for sure|1 November cannot come soon enough This admin is woefully unprepared for this|0 I had all sympthoms like you I thought I have very bad flu but my doctors gave medicine from schizophreniaand appointments for psychologist for no apparent reason Had 374390C for almost a week Chills in the morningsOur country does not have have Covid cases only imported ones 10I did not took any drugs got better second week but my heart sometimes hurt Its already more than a month from the start of being sick and I still sometimes get 375 which after some time drops back to 366|0 So what Young people dont die from this old people do This is millennials being smart consumers lower the price of vacation and go nuts|1 who takes tylenot against fever most do against pain|0 Not in France but for some perspective at least from where I am a lot of young people have an extreme dislike for older age groups I know the issue is more complicated but a lot of my friends feel like we have nothing to lose from this virus and alot to gain|1 Ok zoomer|1 You do to confirm how they became dead|0 Oh I ready have a screen protector is it fine to use a bit of soap and water on a cloth for that|1 Where the fuck are you getting 9 case fatality rate|0 Thank you and same to you and yours|1 They can get sued In the united states you can sue anyone for any reason you just pay a couple hundred bucks to your district court and file it They have to appear and defend themselves or you win by default If you dont want a large sum just take them to small claims and request monetary compensation for the harm they caused you for making you sickyou can sue them for the lost wages you would have earned at work had they not been so careless and perhaps even the medical bills but small claims only allows up to like 3 grand where Im from so youd have to file a civil lawsuit if you want more out of them|1 There is no such thing as price gouging The market will pay the equilibrium price If you cant afford it dont buy it If you restricted the price youd just get mass shortages Do you want to live in Venezuela|0 Also I dont know if they can be prosecuted if they leave their homeBut lets hope everyone is considerate|1 Ok what did you do with my verses|1 They are only testing those with stupidly strict parameters Alabama just opened up a few drive thru clinics and they have been stupid packed today|0 I think the test is pretty good but not as good as other tests we have for respiratory viruses Here is what I read The 5167 false negative rate doesnt sound too bad but the anecdotes do A study in the journal Radiology showed five out of 167 patients tested negative for the disease despite lung scans showing they were ill They then tested positive for the virus at a later dateAnd there are numerous anecdotal accountsThese include that of Dr Li Wenliang who first raised concerns about the disease and has been hailed as a hero in China after dying from it He said his test results had come back negative on multiple occasions before he had finally been diagnosedChinese journalists have uncovered other cases of people testing negative six times before a seventh test confirmed they had the diseaseAnd similar issues have been raised in other affected countries including Singapore and ThailandIn the US meanwhile Dr Nancy Messonnier of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says some of its tests are producing inconclusive results This doctor also speculates the virus may be secondary same source as the quote above The early signs of coronavirus are very similar to other respiratory viruses Dr MacDermott saysMaybe they werent infected when first testedThen over the course of time they became infected and later tested positive for the coronavirus Thats a possibilityAnother option is the patients do have the coronavirus but it is at such an early stage there is not enough to detectEven though RTPCR tests massively expand the amount of genetic material they need something to work fromBut that doesnt make sense after six tests Dr MacDermott says httpswwwbbccomnewshealth51491763|1 I think you need to seek psychological help|1 Mostly young criminals shooting at each other and victims kill people|0 Go by feverthats all we have to confirm since states are not testing people with symptoms unless they are critical|0 Sometimes Im amazed at how well the West brainwashed their people Nothing China does is right to them|1 I run a street food company on the gulf coast in Florida I closed to voluntarily quarantine myself and my family last Friday Everybody here is going out like its spring break and cant believe that I closed because of this|1 PCR machines break down the dna strand strip it down the center You need to have the target template that has a sequence match to covid19 and test to see if you got a match They dont have the target kits to do the test At some point they likely will but theyre being told to redirect anything that reaches sufficient levels of suspicious to the state level agency|0 I get your point but then clearly the plans were not enacted fast enough Every country should have looked at China and acted immediately upon the 5 million escaping Wuhan globally before the lockdown|1 Yes the oldest boomers are about 74 So theyre under 80 and thus see themselves as not that old They are right in that theyre not the generation with the biggest risk Its their older siblings But boomers are still old and at risk|0 Yeah completely understandable |1 The world is plagued by greed and its fucking depressing|0 a single data point compared to how many other data points we have does not matter in statistics Youre also assuming that someone on the internet is telling the truth|1 Of course it wcould ruin organizers who already paid cash advances and marketing I also wonder if insurance policies if they have any require cancellation by the government|0 If the governments of Italy UK USA treated it as a pandemic and stopped flights quarantined and did contact tracing we would be like Singapore or Taiwan but the mislabeling of what this is allowed aforementioned governments to sit on their ass and spread disinformation The stock markets know better|0 What about the fact it does protect from droplets What if someone sneezed right at you It would lower the viral load rather than landing right on your exposed membranes Hey and its all the rage now trendy even dont you like trendy LOL|0 Mmm yeah You see were putting the cover sheets on all TPS reports now before they go out Did you see the memo about this|1 Do you need to throw in deaths as well as the remissions Its all a free bed |1 It doesnt matter how centralized the system is theres always gonna be battle between the central and local government Even the central government have different departments and not all of them would agree on some issues The Wuhan major suggested that they reported to Beijing but we dont know the truth I dont have any solid evidence to blame anyone for the earlier stage misbehave but for sure there are people responsible for it|0 I think the inexcusable failures of governments around the world will be much studied by historians and anthropologists significantly laterAs of right now the same people who made fun of me not even a week ago when I suggested they take this seriously They seem to have erased that from their memories now that cases are nearby and all the hand sanitizer is gone Im absolutely certain that if I asked them why they didnt take it seriously earlier theyd say There was no way I could have known or evade the topic entirely|1 Ok this makes much more sense I closed the store today until at least Saturday so Ill have plenty of time for it Thank btw appreciate it|1 Oh wow more good news Yay|1 I found out about this in Jan because of alt media I have never been as disappointed regarding governments the mainstream media and the lack of critical thinking skills in society as i am now But we still have to fight for our friends and neighbors|0 Good news is of the 36 passengers that showed symptoms on that flight 16 flew to their final destination and the 20 french citizens all tested negative to the virus x200B Sourcehttpswwwouestfrancefrsanteviruscoronavirustestsnegatifspourlesrapatriesdudeuxiemevolquipresentaientdessymptomes6719134|0 Then hell inexplicably text Coronafefe at 2am|0 This is what I find funny and terrifying There is NO way they can contain this its out and spreading Just take precautions and treat it the best you can|1 better to beg forgiveness than ask permission|1 I live in Texas and people are still crowding restaurants and going out in public crowded places Its going to get pretty bad here|0 Properly used PPE works in any setting not just a healthcare one Viruses dont care what your job isTheres a difference between what I think you want to sayMasks should be reserved for healthcare workersAnd what you are sayingimplyingMasks only work for healthcare workers|0 Cap hill represent yesterday I heard someone out my window say omg Im so excited the bars will be empty Not if you and everyone else use that logic|1 they were already strong since Italy was the first G7 country that signed the silk road economic treaty|1 snappy little nasty comment goes herejesus saves|0 This is a horror|0 I mean my post did say if you were not deficient in any vitamins but nice rant tho|1 Really tho does coronavirus cause a sudden need to interact with people or why the fuck would he do it|0 Gotta remember with older people that their experience may be hinderance to thisNancy Pelosi is 79 years old If predictions are right this will be the worst pandemic of her lifetime Shes heard people go crazy about H1N1 Bird Flu Ebola SARS and probably a dozen others that are before my time And none of them caused major issues in the USBased on that experience its reasonable to think this one will also just blow overNot that I personally think it will But I do understand why older people particularly politicians would not take this that seriously at this point|0 Thank you for the clarification Could you tell me the procedures for disinfecting n95s would really appreciate it|1 Great good to support your workers in this time of crisisNow start paying them a living wage healthcare and basic job protectionsOh and pay your damn taxes Bezos|1 Wisconsin is kind of being like this You basically have to have traveled somewhere or have contact with a known case to get tested Maybe due to a lack of test kits and resources for testing But it makes me wonder how many are going to end up in a bad way that maybe would have had a better outcome had they received testing and better treatment|1 If this virus proves to be something like HIV that ends up killing you two years later boy Johnson will look stupid then wont he|0 If comparing the systems US CDC is more efficient in design than China CDC In China local CDC doctors and experts has to go through local gov dumb to reach the central CDC And we all know the report was manipulated by local gov which caused the delay of initial response US CDC has its own org hierarchy many more tools at its disposal and direct impact on the president But|0 Mains could go and panic buyers will resort to batteries and I dont trust the wind so was thinking maybe chain to my bike peddle power Might as well stay fit for the apocolypse Ill just peddle faster for more air Actually can get the missus to peddle for me Is it more for extras and mod kits because its already costing me my mortgage and marriage|0 I really want to believe Chinese succes You could be right I might believe it too easily Same goes for Iran I believe its very bad there right now and we dont see the numbers to suggest its anything bad I dont believe it Why would I believe China and not Iran You are right|0 Stopped by the Dollar General this past Saturday And I stopped in again yesterday afternoon Nothing was restocked from when I was there Saturday Harder hit than I expected was soaptoiletries I went ahead to buy body wash and an 8pack block of bar soap in case Can goods were ravaged About the only ones left were vegetables people didnt want or SPAM Candysoda was in abundance No toilet paperOne lone shelf of paper towels Spices were starting to go including sugar and salt I bought sugar the other day but stocked up on salt Crisco will be next as the only oils left were supersized bottles or even 7 olive oil bottlesMost heartbreaking was a senior citizen man He was maybe 80 years old and he had one little basket and was shopping He was picking up of all things packages of those peanut butter crackers and some canned goods He was floored at the insanity in there It was sad|0 Dude look on the bright sights please you sound like those kids with their nice warm room and an expensive PC think you know it all At least have a rational mind and dont judge people yet You not even there witness everything so why would you think the country arent able to fight it off In fact the government amid if an outbreak happen in a city like Sai Gon they only have 1000 bed and there will be a shit show here Look up the sources mate and stop listening to rumor please most of them are gossip made up stories People who report that I find to be very incompetent to understand real situations and they always process information as they would think like doomsday is coming or some shitAND STOP MOANING LIKE A KID |1 Remember when we thought ol George dub was the worst president in history|0 That is true the actual death rate is probably lower But we have to start making educated guesses somewhere Considering the data we have so far using a 23 baseline is justifiable as an initial number|0 Read this thread The virus doesnt like heat and humidity AC removes heat and humidity from the air|0 Bats are rats with wings carriers of disease That absolutely makes them a poor food choice LOL And call it cultural but eating a boiled bat with fur head and all is to me absolutely disgusting and gross|0 Where is the governor hiding himself|0 It could be that various ACE inhibitors work differently regarding ACE2 From this article httpsdiabetesdiabetesjournalsorgcontent5741018 Although the ACE2 enzyme is not inhibited by ACE inhibitors in vitro perindopril also significantly modified the expression and activity of ACE2 in our models Treatment of c57Bl6 mice with perindopril reduced plasma ACE2 activity and cortical ACE2 activity in both control and diabetic animals|0 Not all of them UofT Wlu and UWaterloo are still open Western is closing Honestly We need to tell ford to close university and collage and have kids sent home 20 year olds think theyre invincible and many are still planning on going to st Patricks day events this weekendTuesday|1 Actually it is Arabic even though you are right to expect it to be FarsiHe is a foreign journalist reporting in Iran I guess for an Arabic speaking outlet although I have no idea which one I can only read Arabic via Farsi loan words|0 Microbiologist here Just be honest Dont have enough and dont need them in low risk areas But why lie and say even proper N95 masks worn properly wont be imperfectly protective|0 top notch boobie trapsYou dont say |1 Death penalty Eradicate them all for bio warfare|0 WHO who took total confirmed cases and divided that by the deaths which isnt how you find CFR lol Completely ignoring South Korea with their 06 death rate South Korea seems to be the only country testing everybody that they even slightly suspect might have it This also doesnt include those that were asymptomatic who werent tested|0 I just had to cancel a trip to Austin unrelated event I was able to cancel the hotel with no penalty but didnt get my money back from the flight They give you credit you can use for another flight later on|0 Its possible that we are not having a coherent conversation together The only two points I made in this thread are that1 America is not Asia2 Lets copy Asia is a stupid argument for wearing masksI chose to make my statements in a vulgar manner on purpose but that doesnt negate their validity|0 I am always baffled on how people fail to understand exponential growth Like for real you are dumb and shouldnt voice your opinion on matters which your brain is incapable of understanding|0 Those poor nurses I am SO happy to be out of healthcare right now Some admin pulling the trigger from their private office is sending these poor healthcare workers into extreme risk Especially if they follow that WA med center that Peak Prosperity was talking about today They announced that they would bar any healthcare workers from wearing masks and instead put masks on symptomatic patients Just insanity Man total shower thought but how do we have tons of nukes and bombs stocked up but we dont have basic medical supplies set aside for the health emergency we knew was coming|0 Bingo People would have to drop out of school lose their cars their homes their kids end up homeless and etc These are not excuses these are the reality of the flaws in Americas economy|0 meaning literally zero containment or mitigation efforts Which is essentially the current US approach We have very little testing and very little contact tracing meaning it has been allowed to flow unchecked We have people who died before they were diagnosed as infected with the virus This is not how you contain or mitigate|0 Same Im part of a business critical operation so all Im doing is going to work 4 people in my department max and coming back I have food for at least 3 weeks Most people are not taking this as seriously I am very scared of the health implications if I get this virus|0 Same Havent seen anyone acting sick or known anyone who has gotten sick Still working at Nordstrom like normal Not sure what else to do|0 Michael Osterholm who is a biosecurity and infectiousdisease expert and apparently a very respected one claimed that he could have a vaccine ready tomorrow the problem is the extensive trials that such vaccines have to go through to get approved As he put it its not that people are dragging their feet its just the way the system is designed to protect the consumers of the vaccines and medications|1 A brave hero have fallen|1 He could be ok with it like a cuck|1 I think the quote was more about the fact that death on a massive scale isnt something that most people can easily relate toshow empathy for If you tell me that JFK died I can wrap my head around who he was what he accomplished and what he could have accomplished If you tell me millions of jews died in the holocaust I know its a bad thing but it really doesnt make me feel any different than being told that there are 7 billion people in the world|0 Oh no Singapore|0 Ironic|0 It doesnt help that we were at an event last weekend with thousands of athletes spitting and snotting everywhere Then my husband had to travel for work through two major airports and came down with influenza fingers crossed He had bad cold then fever and now fever has resolved thank God and he has just cold symptoms again I have aaaallll the paranoia I need right now|0 Yeah its not anti viral rather anti bacterial|1 Because it doesnt even have a 10 fatality rate Im more scared of Ebola breaking out again It had a 90 fatality rate|0 Not sure if I should cancel in person interviews|0 5 bucks trump will blame Obama for the crash Oh wait|0 Well they tried them due to his worsening condition It says so in this paperhttpswwwnejmorgdoifull101056NEJMoa2001191 published by the New England journal of medicine Only after starting this investigational course of antivirals his condition improved He had to be put on supplemental oxygen I mean not everyone has access to that kind of healthcare and he was a 35 year old healthy male It could be very ugly for older or immunosupressed people specially in countries that dont have the same resources as the US|1 And your best guess should be trusted because|1 Save the dmt you might need that to help you over to the other side touch wood I hope notI may have to dig out my skyrim disc actually|1 Please refrain from making strong speculative claims without sourcesIf you believe we made a mistake please message the moderatorshttpswwwredditcommessagecomposeto2Fr2FcoronavirusThank you for your cooperation|1 Its only a matter of time Im sure |1 Ugh I wish I was still in grade school to enjoy summer starting several months early|1 Thats just my shitty 02 worthhey now 2 cents on the dollar is a catastrophically high amount if were talking about taxing stashes of billionaire money amirite|0 Im interested in this too|1 Thats ok Simply doing it raises awareness and will make some people that see you consider whether they should be doing the sameThe ones that dont figure out that safety precautions are important will have plenty of time to rethink their positions when they are sick Some of those people will be doing that thinking while recovering in a 4000day hospital bed for 68 weeks|1 stupid people public health and medical expertsThe stupid people here are the ones buying up masks they dont need I work at an assisted living facility non profit and we are at a point of needing to ration masks 250 high risk client are going to be put at risk because you stupid fucks think you need masksIf your mask isnt n95 rated and actually FITTED it is doing absolutely nothing and you are just putting everyone else at risk Fuck off|0 Brilliant|1 Bin in der selben Situation Kann jetzt geplante Prfungen nicht absolvieren und habe keine Gewissheit dass die Uni in zwei Woche auch wieder erffnet wird Bleibt einem aber nichts anderes brig als zu warten|0 If I saw a drivethrough treatment pop up in the US I would truly believe it is the actual apocalypse and someone is trying to make quick money right before everything ceases to exist|1 Toronto Public Health has been in regular contact with the woman during her selfisolation period officials saidThe couple who are in their 50s both wore masks for the duration of the flight as a precaution health officials said and were picked up in a private vehicle where the driver also wore a mask They were taken straight home where they live aloneOfficials are following protocols and actively following up with passengers on China Southern Airlines flight CZ311 from Guangzhou China who were in close proximity to the couple and have made contact with a few The couples flight landed at Pearson International Airport at 346 pm on Jan22Williams told CTVs Your Morning earlier Monday that the entire plane was not at risk because its a dropletspread organism|1 Yes my first thought too Charlie Brooker is a mystic I swear|1 Compare the s that are most probable for COVID19 right now with the s for the theoretical flu pandemic listed in this studyhttpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC2206465po696429 The numbers for the theoretical pandemic flu are much worse than the normal flu and will collapse health care systems The normal flu is bad enough However COVID19s preliminary numbers are even worse than the one in the study Then compare COVID19s numbers against the 1918 Pandemic Flus numbers httpswwwnccdcgoveidarticle121050979articlehttpwwwcidrapumnedunewsperspective202001datasuggestncovmoreinfectious1918fluwhatdoesmeanYou will likely then understand why many are concerned|0 Yes the article says because he had been tested negative he was discharged on the 2nd March|0 I mean it is her job to prepare the familybeing prepared helps to ease stress and this is a very stressful time|0 No youre living in some sort of fantasy land with no basis in reality|0 Thank you for sharing Your English is perfect by the way much better than most Americans I wanted to ask if you live in Lombardy or Veneto these 2 provinces have the biggest problem according to the newspapers in USA or you live outside of these places Are other areas of Italy able to cope with the disease or do they have the same problems as Lombardy and Veneto|1 no theyd catch the virus from the husband and kids and the supermarketsmoking is a major factor more men smoke women also tend to live healthier and due to biological differences women have better immune systems than men|1 Its not this simpleUsually when youre talking about viruses that develop in humans before spreading youd probably be rightHowever this disease is new to us and essentially has no clue what the fuck its actually doing to spreadIt might get more deadly it might get less deadlyWe dont know|0 I was pessimistic but I still expected them to try a little bit harder Theyre only shutting the school that infected kid went to down for a few days to clean it and the school their sibling goes to isnt being closed at all Their sibling is just staying home for a couple of weeks and getting tested and theyre calling that an abundance of caution|0 You may have killed innocent people CORONAVIRUS but now that youve messed with my geralt youre gonna catch these hands|0 Yep and weeks ago there was footage of a guy lying on the floor in a crowded Wuhan hospital chucking banknotes around to try to get help Sobering stuff|0 Yep The same one most other experts are calling out httpswwwfrance24comen20200315insufficientandriskinglivesexpertstakeaimatukgovtscoronavirusplanhttpswwwfrance24comen20200315insufficientandriskinglivesexpertstakeaimatukgovtscoronavirusplan Manymedicalexpertsseem to agree Agroup of 229 scientists at British universities published anopen letterhttpmathsqmulacukvnicosiaUKscientistsstatementoncoronavirusmeasurespdfon Saturdaydecrying thelack ofsocial distancing measures taken so far as an insufficient response and arguing that additional and more restrictive measures should be taken immediatelyThe current data about the number of infections in the UK is in line with the growth curves already observed in other countries including Italy Spain France and Germany the scientists noted The same data suggests that the number of infected will be in the order of dozens of thousands within a few daysIn light of this trajectory they took aim at Vallancesreliance on herd immunity Going forherd immunityat this point does not seem a viable option as this will put NHSthe National Health Serviceat an even stronger level of stress risking many more lives than necessaryIndeed Britains cherished public healthcare service was already under strain before the coronavirus emerged intheChinese city of Wuhan in DecemberInthe autumnJohnson was prompted to take emergency actionhttpswwwfrance24comen20191119ukunitedkingdomhealthnhsgeneralelectionborisjohnsontoryconservativelabourjeremycorbynbrexitto prevent a winter crisis from engulfing the NHS|0 I get offended because Italy is the best country in the world but the first who throw shit at it are the Italian themself healthcare in Italy is something other country should copy pasta as it is|0 yes i saw that on r3b3lmedia|1 Dude governments cant be trusted But if someone said you should start to prepare mass pandemonium would ensue|0 22 80 Your Dads a badass|0 Is it really as bad as it is said to be in the media Or is it worse than the media says|0 thank you for your report|1 Trump should reveal his test certificate What does he have to hide|0 Now a look at the US where I work in retail and a corporation would NEVER give up a chance to make money Im forced to be in a small store where customers have no respect and cough and sneeze on everything Corporate has said they are not supplying stores with anymore cleaning products so employees are responsible for buying and bringing in their ownAnd I am very tempted to display a sign on the door urging customers to take precautions and preventions But that could get me fired|0 On that note the fucking owners of these markets and pharmacies price gouging and taking advantage of the whole thing proves that society in general is fucked on this current path Not just Coronavirus but were going to live in Brave New World if we go on like this|1 Never mind the looming threat of an uncontrolled outbreak there is paperwork to be filed|0 No one can buy them All sold out I look everyday for masks and Lysol Sold out|0 I quit smoking Nov 9 2018 are my chances of catching it the same as someone that still smokes Do I have a better chance of healing if I do|1 Especially Asian makes yeah|1 Its not necessarily friends but various events being canceled|0 an older white guyIm sure him being white has some relevance to something|1 doesnt help when everyones so much an ass about itin a perfectly nonracist world we could joke about steiotypes and no one would be butthurt but nooooo all the sjw overreactings is just souring relationsx200Bquote avenue q song were all a little bit racist Everyones a little bit Racist sometimes Doesnt mean we go around committing Hate crimes Look around and You will find No ones really Colorblind Maybe its a fact We all should face Everyone makes Judgments Based on race|0 SARS was a different virus in many ways even if the similarities are there For one it was far more likely to travel to different organs in the body With Covid19 this can happen in critical cases but is not the norm at all This would explain why so many SARS cases had such high incidences of long term damage|0 No thanks Id like my pandemic a bit more well done|1 If we cant trust the Infected numbers we cant trust the Recovered numbers either|0 They just had New Years celebrations and now Christmas Hopefully the government arranges a proper party for them|1 This is what Im thinking I think coronavirus is everywhere and is being mistaken for a cold and flu How would you know the difference as a young otherwise healthy adult Most cases are mild The 20 hospitalization rate is because people are only seeking treatment for severe cases Just another bad flu that transmits like a cold|0 Awesome thanks|1 Im O but my two favorite people in the world my son and husband are A|1 Last time Tedros was there he returned with no new data Lol x infinity|1 Chill on the weed or any smoke inhalation brother You need those lungs to be in as good condition as possible|1 Yes but that would be the biggest invasion in human history It would need to selfdestruct and disappear from the internet after the outbreak is over which wouldnt happen Yes given enough beforeafter recordings that would be possibleThe easiest way I can think of to do this would be to listen for respiratory changes like the previous option In any country with an emergency alert system yes Otherwise you would need telecoms to volunteer to let you send out a mass text or phone call to all of their customers with the information This could be expensive I dont know enough about hardware to properly answer this but its probably possible on Android but would require Apples cooperation for iPhones due to their lockeddown design If you were careful with your design you could probably have a lowerend laptop drive a few dozen without too many issues ignoring IO restrictions|1 Cool so in ten days|1 This isnt gonna stop Were less than a month from the military setting up tent cities at hospitals and also guarding them at the same time|1 Wow we have reached the bottom|1 We need the Covid19 vaccine today Its crazy to see countries not pouring everything into tackling this problemMy lungs are pretty shitty half the size of normal lungs congenital defect at birth I cannot run 14 mile without hyperventilating like an asthma patient This virus will kill meI really need this vaccine now|0 That might be the right move It was at all times highs the riskds to the economty are large enough that it really shouldnt go straight back there|0 Refugees live among the general population if they had it it would have spread far and wide Speculation No nonsense|0 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo Curse you Corona virus|0 Unless your boyfriend is a 75 year old man youre gravely overreacting Which is understandable considering the media panic but nobody under 30 died so far in Italy|0 Its people like you Ive had to deal with for 6 solid weeks calling me a shill while I try to share whats happening here on the ground in China It might surprise you that a large swathe of the population here in China are neither shills or brainwashed but real people with an opinion|1 if China has already got out of this why you think countries like USA cantUS even got a jump on things despite what people are saying Yes we could have done better but Im happy for once with how people are taking this seriously It could be better it could also be a lot worseAlso I want to say the way the US is laid out might be better for our chances When I went to Europe I was amazed at how close things were and distinctly remember how close you were to other people all the timeIts like that in cities here but for your average town You cant get anywhere without driving and youre usually at least 6ft from people anyways All I worry about is disinfecting objects and obsessively washing hands|1 Also because after feb 1 there were a whole lot more patients outside Wuhanhubei where mortality rate was much lower|0 Whyd I get so aggressive Trump is going to get a lot of people killed and all of his apologists including you are helping him make that happen When you say Obama lied too all its doing is making excuses for Trumps behavior|0 Its not Wuhan roulette more like Italian roulette|1 Do you know how stable this particular virus is what the likelihood of mutation is Or like the rest of us are you just a layperson with no real understanding of this and are guessing|1 This is why 2nd infection is so scary Everyone saying its no big deal obviously has no idea what NOVEL means We simply do not know yet if this is something we build immunity to or not It attacks the body similarly to HIV dont quite me on that but if someone knows please confirm or correct me and we have no data yet to understand secondary transmission or relapse|0 Hahaha|1 Thank god I thought for a second that they were gonna sail of the edge of the world|1 cant read it cuz ny time sucks|0 Thank you for the update I think many of us have been worried because we know there are supply chain issues in other industries Sometimes its easy to guess what comes from China but in other cases there could be some dependency that the average consumer doesnt know about|1 The air is still dry af where I am and Im struggling with dry skin even without the extra washing|0 This is why this is such a bad idea The best idea would be to simply send every citizen cash No time wasting seeing who needs it most just send enough for people to get through this shit Most of these proposals only help people currently with jobs or able to apply for unemployment but there are millions that are not eligible for a variety of reasons that will suffer|0 Wow I havent seen someone try to pump bitcoin in a long time|1 Still sad though some might have lived another decade who knows Italians are blessed with long lives|1 I wholeheartedly agree lets not let Boris do worse|0 I wish they would just be blunt and honest about the fact that demand exceeds supply by a astronomical margin Instead they push this bs through the media with a condescending tone When it was only in China professionals were explaining the benefits of n95 Now they magically dont work and youre crazy for even considering buying them also we need them to keep our people safe Also you need to go through a fit test at NASA or else they will definitely give you the flu|1 Almost every expert is saying thatYet people keep insisting on not taking this seriously|0 As far as I know Wuhan is still in a lock down No one leaves and the whole Hubei province But other part of China is not locked down People still can fly to Canada|0 I am in NJ and have been sneezing and coughing like crazy My brain was freaking out But I started taking my seasonal allergy meds and Im better now Hopefully thats some of it|1 The TONE was to not to create panic but the facts were to help everyone realistically prepareI thought it was the best US press conference so far|1 Youve got it wrong too He got a ttulo in chemistry from the Escuela Tcnica Industrial No 12 which is a staterun technical secondary schoolSnopes basically says its a posthigh school secondary degree equivalent to certification from a community college Wiki says its a Chemical technicians diplomahttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktheholycehttpswwwsnopescomfactchecktheholyce|0 httpstwittercomEpsilonTheorystatus1232847757804802048Patient was already sick on Feb 19 upon admission|0 Because theyre vastly underprepared How are you going to blame the public for trying to protect themselves|1 Should I be taking vitamin d3 1000iu|1 Severe refugee crisis Locals being raped beaten by said refugees Liberal government is incompetent and the trend is agreeing with me Corona virus no different|0 Correct May You cant just assume this though and move on There is nothing scientific or mathematical about basing any numbers on this You have to look at the data presented and make your decisions on that If a crib had a piece of metal you could break off and eat as a child would you want that crib recalled Or would you say something along the lines of I assume most toddlers are smart enough not to break off and eat metal so itll be fine in most cases probably|1 Or just call your travel insurance The experience hosts are small business and expecting them to cover you not getting travel insurance isnt fair|0 Panic can be easily assuaged by clear and transparent information presented in a calm and rational manner Followed by laying out a concise plan as to actions the individual can take to alleviate the threat in conjunction with the govt is doing Instead we have none of this|0 No you walk around coughing|0 Sound logic for sure|1 Doesnt believing in conspiracy theories get tiring after youve been proven wrong every time|0 This is the kind of common sense social responsibility that Bernie Sanders is trying to bring to America The Nordic Model works people Theres a reason these countries are consistently in the top 10 happiest countries in the world|1 Man youre right It just sucks so much I visited this sub every day before it blew up in popularity and now it feels very unwelcoming to nonliberals and filled with tons of speculative fearmongering and politically charged irrelevancy Basically another rpolitics Im so tired of ideology ruining everything good I just want to coexist|0 Dont stop at bars and restaurants stores in general need to close as well Seems hundreds of people confined in one building standing shoulder to shoulder touching dozens of products is the best way to spread a virus|1 I cant even imagine stopped by the grocery store 2 days ago and it was pandemonium Every single employee I saw looked fucking miserable|0 At some point one would think people and health are more important than money But wait its the GOP my mistake|0 Im currently in the process of strongly considering not going My flights not scheduled until the 18th so Im still feeling the situation out Its only a 3 hour flight from where I am to her and Im pretty anal about washing my hands and not touching other people as it is anyway Plus Im one of the lucky few who scored some face masks before the shortage If figures come out soon that are astronomically higher than whats being reported which im expecting to happen Ill for sure postpone the trip Id just like to wait it out a few more days before making decisions|1 Would like to know of its feasible to run both as well Wouldnt mind letting the pc replace the heater for a while|1 The plan is for Clarence Thomas wife to verify that all the people who leave us to die are personally loyal to Trump|0 Chinese government and WHO suck They should have warned other countries the severity of this virus|0 It actually is People arent traveling back until next week and Shanghai is pretty much dead My parents want to leave so they dont take up space in Chinese hospitals if they get sick Theyre privelidged enough to be able to go to the US and want to ensure resources are available for Chinese citizens|0 Just to keep China happy our governments and institutions that are supposed to be there to protect us are going to most likely kill many people|1 Shitty watercolor still around|0 Please expand this into a reddit sticky Please|1 Im just going by what Trump said I doubt has much extra time with his 6 hours executive time daily and weekend golfing schedule|0 Pretty sure making your paid employee shift through steam chat should be considered employee abuse No man should suffer that|0 Im in Milan right now and the atmosphere is definitely tense Lots of misinformation going on on Whatsapp Im lucky to be rational and tech savvy there are so many people freaking out right now because of this stuff|0 I dont disagree that you have to make sure you dont waste tests in general but were not talking about people wandering in off the street asking for a test because they sneezed This is her husband and children who would be at just a risk as she was and needed to be tested at the same point Fact is were low on tests in the first place because the head of the CDC is a fucking pharmaceutical lobbyist who wanted his buddies to get that sweet sweet tax payer money instead of allowing the WHO and other countries help with a standardized test they already had|1 Ive been using food as an example If a billionaire bought all the food in their state and stuck it in a basement would they just be like well free market The combination of dumb and arrogant really fucks humanity over But what can you do I wish no ill will towards them I just want them to understand their ideas arent even good for THEM That and that it has nothing to do with Communism which I dont see how regulating capitalism is instantly Communism But again not great comprehension skillsAnyway wish us all luck I guess I live in a big city so bracing for fun times ahead|0 Its called forum sliding China has like 1600 agents plus whatever else share blue is throwing at any given sub It wouldnt surprise me that China would want everything to be anti Trump since xi signed the trade deal like a few days before the wuhan incident was public knowledge|1 Same thing happened to me near boston I hope they are right but I am not going to take the risk|0 My flights in 2 weeks seem pretty empty People must be canceling One leg on 737 has 12 seats occupied and 4 of those seats are ours|1 Are you by any chance part of an african tribe where burning bodies is deeply offensiveBut I am sure that the chinese doctors and nurse have the time to get in touch with all the relatives not like there is much doing on right now in china |1 I cant even process how fucking bad that press conference was Trump did not prepare at all for that and he sounded like shit|0 If that was an option for me I would choose the touristy beach town with a garden I would leave as soon as possible Just my opinion|0 You want us to have sympathy for these rich jackasses who dont have a hardship in the world no they can rot in hell with politicians|0 The store managers have very little to no power All theyre allowed to do in regards to this situation is order supplies from corporate Its up to corporate to actually source the supplies and decide if a store will close Source was a manager there for an unfortunate amount of time|0 Very soon You mean once every listed company has to shutter most of its operations demand for most goods falls the economy goes into double digit recession and unemployment to 15 and daily deaths is four or five digits All weve had so far is anticipation and a few profit warnings Wait until the machine is turned off Im predicting the Dow will go to 12k or lower and it wont be for a couple more months at least Has Boeing announced yet Thats going to be a big one|0 Wow its almost like 14 days is two weeks|1 I hate this because Im working at a call center already bad where we provide closed captioned calls for our clientele Our clients are members of the deaf and hard of hearing community which has a large overlap with the elderly at high risk community Guess whos work rarely offers OT Guess whos work also approved 12 hour work days 52 hours a week for FT and 50 hours a week for part time Yeah were helping our users be more connected in these times of great crisis but were creating a tightly packed overly stressed understaffed breeding ground for our employees As soon as one person is confirmed to have it not gonna happen because Utah is trash with administering tests then anyone who sat near them for 2 weeks has to quarantine shared work environment 5 foot cubes no assigned seating and well be even more swamped for those unaffected|1 Ya not sure if they are losing crematorium workers to exhaustion yet They have lost at least one medical worker that way Very possible they are working triple shifts Even then thats a year or twos worth of backlog in the furnacesThey arent burning millions of bodies unless they are throwing them into a hot coal fire or something While theres been rumors of that sort of thing mostly based on sulfuric data I havent seen any confirmation that strongly supports the hypothesisYouve seen a few leaks here and there maybe footage of people leaving corpses outside for trash pickup What you arent seeing is footage with thousands of dead bodies lying in the streets or being loaded into fleets of dumptrucks A few maybe but not at that kind of scaleIf that was happening it would be known There are ways around the firewall and enough people that know how to do it that the images would get out|0 We have to do something around the country but what can we do Seriously like not being sarcastic lol what can we actually do Spread this information around Do we think the petition that circulated demanding the CDC post testing numbers actually helped to get them to do that Obviously we know that they are not telling us the real numbers but they are at least telling us more than they were on Monday or Tuesday|0 ARDS has a mortality rate of 3050 if you develop it even with best treatment so yes|1 It got hugged to death by reddit Oopsies|0 Well Im glad at least I put a smile on your face|1 Because it was just a flu bro|0 LOL|1 I feel like at this rate Ill be on the next season of doomsday preppers|0 Not necessarily true There are already cheaper or better options for many industries eg garments Also although China may have captured much of the tech supply chain there are other options like Taiwan Japan or even the US and this may hasten the relocation of supply chain out of China and back to the US already that is already encouraged by the Trump tariffs|1 Next month it will be one year my mother stopped smoking She quit cold turkey and we were there to support her telling her she was doing good|1 Happy cake day|1 Labcorp and quest 2 major corporations He also said now 1 mil tests out by the end of this week and another 4 mil by end of next week lol Too bad the real issue here is states cant get enough supplies its not just tests|0 Its not about treatment its about getting the piece of paper that allows you to take unpaid sick leave from work|0 i told my friend the other day maybe dollar general knew what was coming and thats why there are 5 less than 10 miles from my house|1 Not everyone has grandparents or a good relationship to them|1 Youll die when you cant pay for food|0 There are nearly 1000 cases outside of China Just the Diamond Princess is showing significant sustained and uncontrollable H2H infection outside of the main countryAlso what does significant mean 10 100 1000 1 billionAn early declaration can help both governments and public authorities adjust prepare and limit the pandemicWaiting until its out of control killing millions of people no one cares what the WHO would say at that momentIts sad that they turned the WHO into a joke no one looks into anymore for help guidance and coordination|1 Yah really weird Ive been coincidentally feeling quite bad over the past week and a half or so but Ive been tested twice and both negative|0 The drunk Im sure hes lovely actually was the most threating The challenge was I just worked through the flight on my laptop and he kept tapping me to take off my headphoens and I would be gracious each time and tell him I had to finish something and we could talk at baggage Slowly over the flight he started saying crazier things like no one cares for me and Ill get whats coming to me By the time we deplaned I actually changed rows and waited for him to exit and let 12 the plane out|1 Well theres that But also when this thing first showed up they followed proper protocol Im sure The problem is they didnt know it was different than regular pneumonia or the flu until the thing was many days in and doctors were looking at things logicallyIts not logical to get one case and shut down the city They treated it normal until they realized several days even weeks in this wasnt a standard illness And they probably had many meetings to discuss whats going on This thing lept at them in the early stages and they didnt have a chance|0 Capitalism at workYou need valves Oh well|1 They already conditioned us for that very argument httpwwwbbccomearthstory20170504therearediseaseshiddeniniceandtheyarewakingup|0 Ill believe when I see it and by the way after taxes will be between 500 700 and only if you pay taxes Dont see that helping alot although something is better than nothing especially when youre at the bottom|0 What about cooks for sorority kids coming back to campuses that have been moved to online only Why cant they just go home Would be safer for them and for campus employees|1 Did anyone actually read the emailNo or theyd realize the first line says First Id like to be super clear that if you feel the slightest bit ill or even uncomfortable please do not feel obligated to come to work I will personally be at work but thats just me Totally ok if you want to stay home for any reason|1 China sends medical equipment to ItalySome guy on reddit theyre just brainwashing you|0 Its a bit of a Catch22 when youve campaigned on governments inability to do anything right|0 The sky is falling The sky is falling|0 Very sorry that you and the rest of the Chinese people must put up with the disasters caused by such a corrupt system I have a deep admiration for Chinese history and culture hope to someday be able to visit a China whose government better represents the will of its people My thoughts are with you in these trying times|1 Yeah it wouldnt be the time for nyaah told you so But hopefully people can share what theyve learnedGuaranteed there will be anger after its over directed in a lot of directions I suspect one will be towards people who got it recovered fine but spread it around without caring|0 If the advertising contracts are signed the existence of a real audience probably doesnt matter Nobody running the Olympics gives a shit about the entertainment potential just the revenue Scores of athletes or entire countries cancelling their appearance will kill the event not a lack of audience at the location|0 Please Sometimes thats all thats available My gym has sanitizer stations throughout and thats what Ive been using I decided to stop lifting though and only go to teach my classes and then GTFO Thankfully as a spin instructor and aqua instructor I dont get too close to anyone|1 You can literally get on a plane to China tomorrow They discouraged nonessential travel If we stopped travel from China the economy wouldve crashed out whole economy has outsourced good manufaturing to there and relies on it|0 This 100 if these companies want to show support they will start to reveal plans to boost our supply chains and manufacturing capacity|1 Basically the guy has it It just wasnt confirmed with the CDC Nj has their own tests and he has the coronavirus Man is from Fort Lee coming straight from Fort Lees mayors mouth|1 Dude he died Respect|0 I wish my KFC mopped the floorsPlace is permanently slippery|1 The issue is that you only have so much space on the truck Lets say there are 40 pallets usually with 10 being toilet paper and 30 of food Now to keep the levels of TP at a normal level the restocking truck will have 20 pallets of TP and 20 of food Food shelves look empty so people panic and empty the food that is left but the restocking truck doesnt have enough to restock and so on Go on over to rsupplychain who explains all this much betterThe point is that just in time works great especially for maximizing corporate profit until it doesnt But that isnt the companies problem is it Those CEOs and their cronies are probably already in their bunkers eating steak at this point|1 The ban is on any non American who has been in Europe in the past 14 days So if they arrive in Canada from Europe and get their passport stamped they arent flying to the US for another two weeks|0 I already asked about plans in case of individual or wide quarantines There are none I live in Quebec and nobody cares about the virus yet its a US thingI was told Id need a doctors note fat chance to get unto our wage health insurance and otherwise it would be considered leave without pay unless the company shuts down for a while then I could apply for welfareI have a Gov Job application filled and interview at the end of the month|1 You should really diversify get some shares in pasta|1 Right Weve passed maybe 10 people at sufficient distance during a 15 hour walk today Entirely safe|1 I only played easy mode |1 Im a manager at a grocery store and I just have to ask people to calm the FUCK DOWN There is no shortage of food Even Italy is chock full of groceries right now No one is starving Why you are wiping out milk and produce is beyond me Itll go bad in a week or two and youll be right back to the store which will still be full but all of us employees are going to be exhausted with our immune systems compromisedCover your mouth when you cough Dont show up to our stores if you are sick we have Instacart for a reason Your panic is the disaster not the lack of food When everything but grocery shuts down we will be there for you|0 Im glad The number of people who are coming back here after week in Florida is absolutely amazing I know a few who spent last week in Europe a couple in South America and a few at VA beach Most of the local people were in FL Our very own governor was in Spain for vacation but cut his trip short and his entire family is now in quarantine Fucking insaneETA closing the beaches and not telling them to GTFO and go back home is pointless|1 If we didnt have millions of poor and working class people for whom the costs of a test or quarantine or loss of work is potentially a death sentence Id agree with you Unfortunately public health initiatives find more success here by removing barriers IE making testing and treatment costs as low as possible providing paid sick leave and job securityetc rather than punishing people who otherwise would want to help containment efforts|0 Is there really nothing we can do about this shit show|0 Given the shit that we have to work with here supplied by the federal government Governor Whitmer has been doing a pretty good job|1 They should cancel flights to Cambodia too because they have one confirmed caseThey should not only cancel flights due to the 8000 confirmed cases at the known ground zero I dont follow your logic|0 Once again Smokers 0This proves nothing but continues to be interesting|1 My son isnt in school yet and our state doesnt have any reported cases but I would have pulled him out of school already also Its more serious than people are behaving Its like we learned nothing from the past 3 months watching China now Iran and Italy We arent leaving the house unless necessary which I have prenatal doctor appointment at a hospital every week so thats funanxiety raising Ive stopped taking my son to daycare during my appointments and no more play place or playground for a while I know its extreme for some people but its what I can do at this point until it peaks and subsides Just letting you know that youre not alone Public awareness should be priority but for whatever reason were just letting people continue on like nothing is happening|1 You cant declare martial law and postpone the election if you dont let things get out of control first|0 I can confirm religious studies teachers are complete morons I got suspended because someone broke the extension lead to the wheel in TV They didnt want to watch the video about a religion I shall not name The teacher watched them do it they stamped on the lead Infront of everyone I laughed I got suspended The kid that broke the extension lead received no punishment|0 This is bad See what happened to the mice given a SARS vaccine|0 to add unlike what they want us to believe The virus has a mortality rate in the US identical to that of the combined world mortality rate of 35|1 I am not terribly concerned about proximity because the affected people are quarantined in their homes I have not seen any national guard yet and Im not sure if theyre even here yet They are only coming to sanitize schools and etc and to deliver food to the quarantined people They are not likely going to affect those of us that are not sick or quarantined While I am inside the containment zone I am not very close to the people that we know for sure are infected with the virus but there are a lot of people quarantined just to be safe No one on my street or in my neighborhood is sick or quarantined yet Many people here are not very concernedEdit also wanted to say that I do plan to drive around tomorrow to see if I can see the national guard or anything else happening Should be interesting|1 That sounds good actually LOLI do love beans rice cajun style|1 That wont go far at all I guarantee theyll be allocated another 50 billion by the end if the month and likely more after that Checkout the per state allocations that are supposed to go to local hospitals to buy more things like ventilators I could blow away that entire handful of millions on ventilators vitals monitoring gear ppe etc and it wouldnt even make a dent|1 Just got off the phone with the super and he said the arent closing until there is a case in the school So until everyone has it nothing to worry about apparently|1 I would speculate that spike protein activation is independent of antibody specificity some sort of change in protein mobility due to a large change in mass due to binding My prediction is that while ADE exists it really is just the spike protein being bound to anything that triggers it Unfortunately getting a non antibody protein to bind a specific target is practically impossibleAs for obvious evolutionary advances I can think of a handful of obvious free lunches when it comes to metabolizing chains of sugars yet wooded trees still exist Evolution doesnt do obvious it scraps out the win however it can If it stumbles on to an easy meal massive changes in an ecosystem occur see invasive speciesAs for the lack of reinfection and no cases of ADE in vivo there are just too many robust systems in place Not only are your b cells trained but memory cytotoxic and helper t cells are as well The majority of cell types are immune from infection as viruses tend to be very picky Cross section that with cells that undergo antibody induced phagocytosis and you have a very small number cells that can be infected if any without the release of interleukins cytokines tnfs etc that prevent viral infection and reproduction I would be interested to see what ADE capable viruses would do in an active HIVAIDS situation Probably still nothing but its a thought|1 Yeah Why discuss firsthand accounts from the upper echelon when uthequeenshapeshifts reporting live from a bunker sovereign freedom cell of autonomy bets that everything is just dandy|1 Yes I just wrote the same thing above about my mother bitching and complaining about people panicking for nothing She refuses to believe the virus is a threat and continues to live life as normal Denying all the signs and warnings I called the personality type flat out stupid or psychopath|0 No offense but thats just an unnecessarily overdramatic response I think we need to change our attitude about protecting vulnerable people instead of assuming nothing can be doneWhere are you picking up on this assumption that nothing can be done Thats no where in my post Supplies are what they are right now They should change in the not too distant future but for the moment we cant make millions of masks immediately come into existence|0 I am in Houston too and we are collectively retarded|0 I would lie too I dont feel like being stuck on a cruise ship Fuck that Sorry but I dont care if I further the spread|0 take 2 weeks off for a cold out of an abundance of caution go to work and later actually catch coronavirus and be out for at least and additional 2 more weeks is what will certainly happen for many people|1 You like downvotes I see|1 Im an extrovert but Im not stupid I think this is less of an extrovert issue and more of an assholenarcissistshitforbrains thing|1 No one believed Noah either until the floods came He was laughed at and ridiculed The moral of that story is you do what you gotta do and dont worry about what other people tell you to the contrary especially when it looks like youre right|1 No I definitely wouldnt expect it to be easy But I find it really hard to trust that a manand partywhos chosen personal enrichment over the country and the lives of the people wouldnt do so again The Tories austerity killed over 100000 people The type of Brexit that Boris campaigned for and is spearheading will undoubtedly cost lives Lack of investment in environmental protections is valuing the finances of the wealthy over lives The way they want to strip the NHS bare Do I believe that this time hell choose the moral path over the greedy one I cant bring myself to So as his plan which coincidentally seems much better financially even at a higher cost in lives is criticized by experts and subject to major reverses of course I dont doubt it was carefully thought out But I have to wonder what priorities were plugged in to come up with it|0 httpswwwyoutubecomuserCampbellteaching All his videos are very much done in a teaching manner I watch his daily updates I think youll want to find the one about oxygen in the blood|1 Why are especially Americans at risk|0 i can report that im being called a sheep for merley telling people be careful now its getting closex200Bits either pure panic or freethinker fedoras no middle thing allowed|0 Had a cousin just fly home from Italy to DFW Through Germany London and into Dallas with no testing done at any airports Be safe everyone|1 Strange most bus drivers Ive seen in the past few years wear them along with gloves Taxi drivers too Seems that people arent too worried yet Twitter is pretty active about it though|1 Theyve known about this since January yet dont have enough hand sanitisers PPE staff or ventilators in March I just dont get it|0 Lets all play Harakiri|1 Oof Good luck Hopefully most people are understanding|1 DaveFernig Test protocols are all up on protocolsio so easy enough to run up a home brew test Just need the la which will be in all major hospitals and universities|1 Just curious but is there a source you can direct us to for the Italy stuff Im not familiar with the situation there|1 Damn I loved this game|1 Fuck|0 I tried to line them up to the closest Italian case number so I aligned the 6391 cases in Spain with the 5883 cases in Italy rather than the 7375 cases the following day|1 No shit|0 Hmm yeah not sure unless each district averaged their pay and paid them out which would make sense but I guess not every district will do this My district in particular has a union though the subs arent in it I guess my district just decided to do the civil thing and take care of everyone|1 And I wont forget the men who diedWho gave that cough to me|1 Trump called it a democratic hoax last week|0 I went down this rabbit hole because I also have a metabolic disorder Found out that recently there has been a rise in young women diagnosed with my disorder who actually have an autoimmune disorder So thats fun for me|0 Still makes no sense but I have more time now to explain why The recovered number is already old as it takes time to recover The number of people infected now is more recent A similarly large proportion of this number will recover as well|0 Also its 2 to 4 including the unhealthy and seniorsThis is no comfort if youre 1 of those groups but for everyone else it is almost certainly 1|1 Hope your mom dont get sick or you wont have the basement to live in anymore|1 There is a chance that the masks are useless though if the report of chinese selling refurbished masks is true|1 Youre right but i think youre being a bit pedantic Even though the mutations are random i think that over time a weaker virus will have a higher probability of continuing to spread because like you said it kills less of its hosts Of course a more deadly strain of covid19 could appear but i think would have less of a chance of staying around over time|0 Im so sorry Maybe try calling UW|0 Lmao thanks for making me laugh both of you|1 Yes I can still get my bell|1 Regular precautions are certainly wise but if an infected person sneezes within 6 ft of you then its over Its so risky|0 Thanks|1 Iran either is very transparent with their numbers or their healthcare system is atrocious x200BOn a side note does anyone know if Hadi had any history with illnesses|0 No shit its not good Still an increase in the numbers really doesnt mean anything at this point as were already far surpassing it Hitting 10k or whatever literally just means more people are getting tested|0 Yes|1 I want to get off roller coaster 2Roller coaster 2 is a great value|1 I can tell you for a fact China is doing a lot manIm in a city north of Shanghai tier 3 5mil people and they hav even imposing lots of restrictions the last 4 days or soNo one can go back to work before 9th feb unless they are critical to the cities functions public transport has been limitedcompulsory wearing of masks in publicall nonessential venues areas are closed parks cinemas Internet cafes etcmy company had to report to the local government where our employees have been and if they have been in contact with people from Wuhangeneral information about essential goods and how we have enough in the cityAnd more If other cities are doing this much then I think China is doing amazing|1 Good luck|1 If ever you wanted to understand British exceptionalism this is the time I cannot tell you how many times Ive heard oh it would never happen hereRunning through so much of our discourse is this implicit belief that no other country is as sophisticated civilised or advanced as the UK|1 I probably didnt make clear I sorry I meant that if Wuhan wasnt placed in Quarrantine then the virus would have spread a lot faster and the numbers we are seeing now would be exponentially more Especially since it was Chinese new year and there are a lot of international travelers The quarrantine slowed it down giving other nations and other chinese cities more time to prepare and establish proper protocols Not all countries took advantage of this though|1 Lol Im closer to NYC and dont even live in the state Your situation sounds rough It kinda makes me appreciate PA a bit more|1 why is the CDC is telling the whole country that surgical masks are acceptable when multiple studies show this virus requires aerosol precautions rather than droplet precautions Theyre about to slaughter our healthcare workers There is a reason that the healthcare workers of every other country fighting the Wuhan virus are wearing double layer hazmat suits and respirators How do other countries have better personal protection equipment than the United States Per the Chinesewho have had boots on the ground for three months fighting this nowhttpsenglishkyodonewsnetnews2020028cd9ef77bf8dchinaadmitsaerosolinfectionpossibleincoronavirusoutbreakhtmlPer a recent US studyhttpswwwmedrxivorgcontent1011012020030920033217v2fullpdfhtmlMay god be with yall|1 Oh sure I just wanted to throw out there that Tylenol is safe to use|1 I think they are looking for a reason to look down on others They feel theyre right as the media and government back them and keep the just a flu narrative and believe those who take the epidemic to what it is to be dumber and ridiculous|0 They said ten times more lethal Flu kills 01 of infected people Covid19 kills 10|0 A truest description of the situationWhen a doctor repeats the mantra that this is just a next flu|1 YepWealth redistribution to the upper classes in the form of austerityPrivatized gains and socialized losses|0 This sounds like something Trump would do|1 Except they dont And you wont find any citations to support your false statement The below article interviews leading experts on the matter and Ive got plenty more where that came from httpswwwwashingtonpostcomhealthunprecedentedchinesequarantinecouldbackfireexpertssay20200124db073f3c3ea411ea88725df698785a4estoryhtml|1 Business Insider essentially only reposts material whereas Buzzfeed has excellent investigative reporting|1 God bless Seattle|1 Danish news reported 2 flight passengers to Greenland are suspected to be infected earlier today|0 COLUMBUS OH OSU closed campus until March 30th at earliest All classes will be moved to online My step brother goes there As for myself I live in WHEELING WV so its only a matter of time until schools close here|1 Could have written this myself Got told I have health anxiety by them|0 Has anyone thought about the fact he has been in the hospital since 0125 That is a VERY long time to be in a hospital They said he turned critical over the last several days Can you imagine if you had 1000 of these patients No way any system can handle this|0 I am 100 in favor of masks but just please please please remember to not touch your face and keep messing with it if it doesnt feel comfortable Wash your hands and for the love of your grow human dont touch your face it will help drastically reduce your exposure risk|1 We all are But this wont be the end of the world Things might be different and challenging for a little but there will be a time where we can look back and say wow remember coronavirus We made it through 57 million Americans got the swine flu too Look up the numbers on swine flu I swear thatll make you feel better|1 Wife is er MD We are terrified|0 The Classic is still on and the athletes are still being allowed to come and compete the Expo was cancelledThe expo draws another 200k plus peopleIve got 2 dozen friends competing this weekend and they all still plan to attend I have many more friends that are now screwed on nonrefundable airfare and hotel accomodations some that were already travelling and were as close as 3 hours away when the expo was cancelled Ive even got a couple of friends that had booths and ordered a ton of merch just for the expo that are now losing their minds because they have trailers full of inventory that would have sold this weekendIt sucks but it is for the best At least I dont have to drive the few hours each way this weekend theres that|1 My friend came back from the US and clearly has it Was tested Wednesday or Thursday but told theywont get resents for a week As they are self isolating and have relatively mild symptoms I assume they arent a priority Im sure this is true for hundreds of people|1 Is there any consensus around the impact of warmer weather on the infectiousness of the disease in the northern hemisphere From a laymans perspective the flu is seasonal and the 2003SARS outbreak was largely under control by July What about COVID19|0 I work in a plant with a small warehouse Youd be amazed how often inventory gets lost and then randomly found 6 months later I cant imagine the nightmare that is Ikeas warehouse|1 I smoke Marijuana to increase the paranoia|1 Thank you for that link the previous poster had sent me into a tizzy 1549 is a large set of years tooI only quit smoking 25 years ago but my lung function is 95 of normal My original feeling is that with mild asthma and being 38 Im probably and maybe you too since we seem to have similar characteristics at risk of severe Thats why Im stressed Hopefully if the mortality rate is 23 we line up on walking out healthy at the end but man will it be unpleasantHopefully its months and months away and there are antivirals to cut down on complications of severe disease by then|0 Oh no my crush|0 Believe it or not Kentucky is doing a good job Thank goodness we got a Democrat governor just in time|1 Without super cheap and fast testing I think that testing at this point is pointless You may be clean now and tomorrow you may get infected Instead the curve needs to be flatten and I dont need to repeat how|0 I agree this does seem possible|1 Well of course but this is talking about the chances of one developing sequelae given one contracts the disease And in this respect it seems SARS is far worse That was all I was saying|1 Ive never met a rude Chinese person|1 Oh nice now that is helpful I resent the July tax payment at the best of times|1 Hmmmm exactly what the Australian government and right wing media did with the bushfires Trying to blame arsonists and claim that the fires arent unprecedented|0 Everyone stocking up is intelligent Our government is totally negligent and even going so far as to give advice that will cause more people to get sick such as masks dont work They havent even closed off travel to northern italy|0 Am I supposed to be impressed that a company with a net revenue of over 280 billion is cashing out 350 millionThats literally a drop in the bucket|1 The WHO is doing an even worse job and Trump isnt in charge of that either President Trump named Pence as the leader of a task force to combat the spread of the virus and he is a fucking lawyer Its like me putting you in charge of nuclear power meltdown task force Trump was even saying its a hoax and fake news and blamed democratic side for all of it Trump could have turn this in to easy win just take a fucking money from gov put smart people in charge and just give them all resources to get things done But now he is doing same shit when there was a tropical tropical storm Dorian and he was correcting experts and giving orders what they can should say and what not This virus outbreak should be 100 non political but here we are Trump talking stuff he have no fucking clue about|0 It snowed in Iraq last week Its really like someone playing plague inc where everything just falls into order|1 Nah Chinese douchery is hilariously funny if youre not the one involved but a spectator American douchery usually ends up with people having their feelings hurt and offended Chinese are douches to each other and then just move on and not give a fuck after its been resolved|0 Not to mention at its core it is litigating to give a city the ability to restrict a persons right to freedom over their fears Thats a really dangerous precedent IMO|0 No they get criticized for censoring and disappearing journalists and conveniently making whistleblowers who couldve stopped this in its tracks sick|0 This morning as i drove into my small Central Texas town i find all the church parking lots packed Catholic Baptist Lutheran Methodist Presbyterian etc When services were over everyone was shaking hands and hugging This kind of shocked me then made me very angry|0 20 for the confirmed and tested cases Thats why they need to test more We need data and the real numbers to plan correctly That percentage number might be much much lower|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use 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stores just no flour pasta cans of beans etc There is still lots of foods even if there are empty shelves|0 Nope its because the US response has proven that theyre even worse than China|0 I think the only reason herd immunity is so popular among leadership in the UK is because it allows them to do absolutely nothing about this for just a little bit longer before it comes to bite them in the ass What the guy on the screen said was on point though their plan essentially is to let 200k600k people die so they dont have to be economically impacted by any sort of containment strategy Both sides have their points though this is already out there and its not going away herd immunity might really be the only way this can end at this point because containment failed|0 Sometimes I feel like viruses manipulate peoples thought processes in order to assist spreading the virus Then I remember that people can just be selfish|0 My wife was reading that this is the case with elderberry for immune comprimized Dont have source atm|1 Because there are people who are selfish and refuse to be told what to do whod rather go out and keep spreading the virus Youll never get people to lock down because there are people who dont understand that their needs are in fact luxuries Like the people complaining about having to eat frozen vegetables finding an alternative to TP using soap instead of sanitizer or eating in instead of outIm actually amazed most by that last one like none of those people have ever made a PB sandwich|1 human nature is beautifully disgusting|1 That was apparently an error Not sure Im buying it But this article says it was maybe a mistake based on flights from Australia often involving lengthy layovers in atrisk countrieshttpswwwgooglecomauampsmjpostcomIsraelNewsPresidentRivlinwillnotbequarantinedfollowingAustraliatrip619206ampIts all very weird Like what are the odds of the media deciding no travel in Thailand etc meant you couldnt get tofrom Australia so therefore Australia must also be banned Seems like an unnecessary level of added infoFeels more like a political show of power Either it was the Israeli Prime Minister vs Israeli President who was IN Australia when this was first reported or ScoMo managed to do something to piss off the Israelis|0 Not too sure|0 If Im reading this correctly this study does not assert that those hypertensive patients were in fact treated with ACE inhibitors or ARBs While they state that hypertension is often treated with ARBs and ACE inhibitors which is true they also acknowledge that such treatment was not assessed in either study Thus the use of these meds in this specific patient group appears to be an assumption Is it safe to make this assumption Perhaps But there is at least one paper from several years back now that asserts that approx 2022 of Asians living in Asia may have hypertension but that the rates of detection treatment and control of hypertension remain low 1 If this is true then Im not sure that the assumption of the hypertension medications used before or during hospitalization holds I would like to see more evidence supporting or simply better understand the authors assertions 1 Managing blood pressure control in Asian patients safety and efficacy of losartan httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC3964028|1 Well yeah my first thought was you knocking the spacing of individuals yet youre at an airport|1 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Future shit|0 I got pneumonia 4 years ago I was 3 days at the hospital and got 2 weeks sick leave It was one of the most horrible things Ive experienced Fever was constantly between 3940c throwing up everything I ate CRP 450 I felt like I was dying And oh I have asthma heart disease and on top of that Im working as a practical nurse So Im pretty worried about getting corona|0 10K patients may have died in this month|0 The theory about it being a biphasal infection freaks me out Kind of like the way those whove had Chickenpox end up with Shingles if the virus reactivates later in life which can be quite severe for some I read about the bloke from China who tested negative supposedly recovered and was released from hospital only to die at home a few days later Will those who never contracted the virus be healthier than those who did but seemingly recovered|0 They didnt understand how it spreads most thought it was punishment from God Also the death rate wasnt that high only around 30 not something like Ebola which has over 90 kill rate and thats why Ebola cant spread easily even in super backward areas of Africa due to it kills the host too easily|0 You seem to have an extremely gullible view on human nature|0 I agree I went to California Orange County in early February There was a confirmed case there I came home sick as a dog High fever sore throat and cough Went to doc day I returned and then a week later Told both where Id been Was laughed off They said I had sinus infection But neither antibiotic they tried helped At my second doc appointment my pulse ox was 84 I got better after about ten days|1 Thank fuck|0 It appears you may have questions about the risks associated with the SARSCoV2 andor actions you should take to prepare for how you might be affected We here at rCOVID19 recommend following the guidelines and advice given by trusted sources Your local health officials the World Health Organization and others have been actively monitoring the situation and providing guidance to the public about itSome resources which may be applicable to your situation are as follows The World Health Organization website which has regularly updated situation reports travel advice and advice to the public on protecting yourself from infectionshttpswwwwhointemergenciesdiseasesnovelcoronavirus2019 The CDC USA website which provides Risk assessments Travel advice and FAQs relating to the 2019 nCoV outbreakhttpswwwcdcgovcoronavirus2019ncovindexhtml The UKs Department of Health and Social Cares guidance to the publichttpswwwgovukguidancewuhannovelcoronavirusinformationforthepublicIf you believe you may have symptoms of the Novel Coronavirus or feel you may have been exposed to the virus speak to a doctor andor contact your local health officials for further guidanceFollow the advice of users in this post at your own risk Any advice that exceeds the recommendations of public officials or your health care provider may simply be driven by panic and not the facts|1 Lol He actually entered in a city but not the right one He enter a normal city not in quarantine So even false But he claims false advertising about how easy is enter and get out a quarantine zone Yes for sure because you enter a normal city idiot|1 Whatever you think of Chinas politics this statement is true What is your issue with it|1 Maybe Maybe not After Wuhan they did everythingright rand them helping us save a patients live in NJ though Im inclined to trust them for now until more evidence comes out|1 Closing the border to Americans would be bad for both countriesIf it must be done then so be it but its understandable why they are putting it off|0 Its always been this way I worked for a respiratory protection manufacturer for 9 years Business always boomed in time of disaster then stops immediately after its done Politicians then talk if change but with the issue behind them never make any meaningful progress towards preparedness|0 Good choice|1 Ya then they stopped using clinical diagnoses towards the count and suddenly wow cases dropped dramatically Crazy how that gets gleamed over everywhere|1 Well we dont have a model for how it would look if the weather WAS cold there Maybe it would be ten times worse maybe twice as bad|0 Too bad theyre all sold out|0 Hes not the problem The problem is the realization that your countrymen as a whole have consistently voted into this direction for decadesIm sorry|1 How is a complete lack of hygiene a totally voluntary cultural phenomenon allowing for gross cross species contamination leading to novel viruses somehow anyone elses faultNo whitey making anyone drink bat soup cuz|0 Yeah youre right Lets hope that my fellow citizens arent too much selfish even if they usually are |1 Hey I think its serious as fuck man|0 Every expert in that field is confirming that masks dont work Wuhan losing 3000 healthcare professionals who were wearing masks Countless stories about doctors catching the virus despite wearing masks But hey you not a conspiracy theorist at all and you are using logic Sure carry on|1 This narrative has been floating around here since the sub exploded but is missing important context The cover up in china was done by the local government They knew there was a potential novel virus causing pneumonia in december but did not report it until it was obvious what was going on The national chinese government was super pissed about this and came down hard on those leaders So far China has appeared fairly transparent They have certainly done their normal ridiculous job of silencing bloggers and shit like that but I think they were more open about their situation than the US is being right now That is embarrassing|0 I thought this too It seems perfectly designed in a very tragic way when looked at in a long term socio economic perspective Malthussian|1 There is no way to test the entire populationThe current steps in Europe are1 Good hygene no crossing borders no gathering food courts closed2 If you contract flulike symptoms stay home and self medicate3 If your symptoms get worse call a hotline and arrange for a test4 Home quarantine if positive5 Upon heavy breathing vomiting worse symptoms hospitalizationThey are trying to prevent people with just anxiety or a cold from storming the test centers It is not possible to test everyone that thinks they may be sickThere are approx 50x as many people just selfmedicating like a normal flu as there are confirmed cases That is not to say it is a normal flu|0 15 household attack rate thats interesting|0 I initially had mild anxiety about it because I have a preexisting condition type 1 diabetes and they keep saying people with preexisting conditions dont have it easy with this virus But I was thinking part of it is also the unprecedented quarantine in fact thats what drew me into this to begin with its just astounding but also quite freightening Ive rationalized that if this outbreak was happening anywhere else would there be such a massive quarantine Probably not we have to remind ourselves its an authoritarian regime where thats very easy to pull off regardless of what the real threat level is So that is a major factor in all of thisInterestingly most of the anxiety has gone away because Ive been engaging with the informed posts you mention and largely ignoring the spreadsheets of numbers which as you say is completely useless at this time|0 Its pissing me off Im an NHS District Nurse I see 20 vulnerable elderly people at home each shift I developed a cold runny nose sore throat over the weekend Do I go in and risk the lives of elderly people or do I call in and cancel shift leaving NHS short A simple test would clear my mind and allow me to continue working Fuck this is infuriatingNot to mention we dont even have any stocks of hand gels in our clinic in London arghhh|0 Yea I have read the same thing So its strange that mine can drop so low and I just dont feel that badI am in my sixties but I am also in very good shape from a lot of endurance training I plan to be the oldest person to climb Mt Kilimanjaro after I turn 90 I also want to be the oldest person to complete a marathon|1 One of the latest deaths reported was in a woman in her 70s who was previously hospitalized The other was in another resident of LifeCare in Kirkland who died in her family family home on Feb 26Why do they allow the patient to go back home Shouldnt they be kept in the hospital all the time Upon death the body should be sent to incinerator asap Its inhumane but the best way to stop the spread|1 no|0 swiss isnt even in europe they wanted to be independent so yeah|1 The reporter was quoting Pence who is clueless What actually happened was HHS categorized it as an essential health benefit which means plans including medicaremedicaid have to cover itOther things in this category include hospitalization ambulance rides etc theyre not free and still come under the same copaydeductible rule as any other claim they just have to cover them to be considered a valid plan under ACA rules|0 Translation we are bonedThe mind resists this information And thats good It means we will keep fighting anywayBut sober reality A lot of people will be very sick and a lot of people will die and it may take years for the world to get back on its feet|0 No Im not good at social skills We were sitting there and talking when I was thinking on how to make them understand Then this idea came and I gave it a shot Never knew it would play out like this|1 Its a place I can go with friends that has positive interaction I never wait in the crazy lines nor do I go when its busy If you have an annual pass and go often a visit is about 1015 Better than going to see some movie I dont care to see where all Im doing is sitting silently near my friends Better than going out to buy overpriced drinks in a place I dont feel all that safe in I also do stuff like kayak hike when I can Disney is usually a 1015 mile walking day which I enjoy I have only been to the Florida parks and usually do at least two parks per visit though so this is a shitty reply I hear the tickets at Disneyland are 200 now though so those parks must be fucked all the time|1 businessinsidercom news source is unreliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source such as a reliable news organization or an recognized institutionThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 yeah im in san francisco havent gone to a barrestaurant since tuesday and dont plan on it for 2 monthsstill went on a hike near the beach though didnt come within 6 feet of anybody but my girlfriend|1 Thank you for this I had been planning to do something like this 5 days ago but had been busy with my freelance clients This is awesome and I dont need to do it anymore thank you|1 Sure but like the foreign travel bans dont need infected creating more pockets|1 Definitely not just people under 25|1 Spanish flu originated in Kansas but whaddayagonnado|0 Yeah and using your own device is a massive opportunity for a potential security breach This is in no way an ideal solution|1 Yeah they can buy them from YOU|1 heh i hope people will start taking it more serious here in italyI think its slowly picking up but i still see too many people around for my taste|1 yeah but well who needs fibre anyway right s|1 A lot of people critical of our PM love just saying stuff|1 You can be critical but stably critical meaning for example intubated but with stable not worsening vent settings|1 So do I someone with moderate asthma HAVE to go to the hospital if I get this or can I tough it out at home|0 How else would we know its a Democrat hoax just flu national emergency with very few cases|0 IMO its clear that people in several governments throughout the world knows something we dont the US is not the only country playing this game my theory to why they refuse to test1 the tests are not accurate due to the lack of access to sample data there are over 90000 samples but most are owned by china many countries are not in good standing with china2 the type of test they are doing rtpcr on a possible biphase or a virus with multiple strains may in itself lead to a lot of false negatives the belief that the false negatives will lead to more problems than just letting everybody believe they are all possibly infected3 the US may have the least capacity in their hospitals namely the ventilator systems to take over our breathing when our lungs fail to handle all the patients not testing will ensure that only the people with the most resources will have first access to these limited facilities4 the gold standard for testing is a cat scan of the lungs and an antibody test cat scans are expensive and the antibody test is still being developed but almost ready|0 I hoped they had learned their lesson during the Fukushima disaster Hopefully they wont have to learn the hard way but there is no way in hell that I am going to the Olympics in Tokyo This country is run by incompetent baffoons|0 I live in NL Why are they handling it terribly|0 Quebec Im wondering how hard the decreased foot traffic is hitting people who panhandle and food banks closing services I honestly feel terrible for the lack of resources for the abundance of homeless we have in Montreal|0 auto update without having to refresh the pageAnd wow the figures are way ahead of worldmeters|1 Seems like they WANT this shit hereWho is they Democrats Because the Coronavirus is the worst thing to happen to the Trump administration so far There goes the economy|0 Theres a reason for that second amendment and forming a militia thank God|1 People are funny and inconsistent when it comes to disbelieving in medicineFor example antivaxxers disbelieve nearly everything conventional medicine has to say about vaccination But what do they do when their kid gets critically ill They take them straight to the hospital emergency room and entrust conventional medicine doctors to fix itMy point I guess is who knows what theyll do|0 Masks need to be on the front line is why they say to not buy them Its not unlike when all steel was reserved for the war when we were at war Car companies couldnt buy up the supply of steel for example|0 Yeah its called money|1 My NY county is closed and we dont have any positives yet|0 So is there anything else that can be done to prepare yourself aside from masks wipes and a few weeks of foodwater I dont wanna go overboard but I also feel like somethings missing|1 This is typically not how the economy works People dont have their savings wiped out and lose their job and then all of a sudden live the way they were before once some arbitrary amount of time hits Its going to be a crawl|0 That is complete bullshit The actions individuals take are basically the only thing that will have an impact Even slight changes in behavior drastically offset the potential outcome as long as theyre adopted by wider society The goal needs to be letting people know that everything they do makes a difference here and its time to take this seriously|0 wouldnt Amazon removing 1 million products for price gouging be just as much the market doing what markets doBezos it appears the market has beenputs on sunglassescorrected|0 Ohhohoho Ive been betrayed by our society since I was born is this your first time|0 Its quite amazing how blunt they are about it England really made an error by not following the French approach in the late 1700s|1 Its kinda mellowTheres always a lot of political fuss about a lot of stuff but over all its really mellow I love living here Ive traveled a lot for work and holidays but aside from more beautiful nature and landscapes Denmark is very flat I think Id prefer living hereSchools free medical bills are free if you become unemployed the state will pay you enough to have a normal life If you get mentally ill or become disabled the state will also pay for your careOur taxes are fixed at around 38 though but with a salary of 42000DKK a month I still have around 28000 for myself And I have health insurance and unemployment insurance Health insurance is paid through my job and the unemployment insurance means Ill have my regular salary for a year if I get firedA lot of stuff is expensive here though A regular car often costs at least 5 times more than what youd pay in the states last I checked because of heavy taxationBut public transportation is not too costly and you can basically get to anywhere in Denmark with itAlso its a through and through representative democracy so you dont have various lobbyists or swing states manipulating the elections Also we have the lowest bribery ratesPolice carries handguns or submachine guns but casualties are extremely rare and theyre generally very kind and helpful unless youre a dickEdit1 Also most of the population speaks two languages Mainly Danish and English Its taught in public school along with either German or French If youre a tourist here or want to move here for work or live here as an English speaker youll be fine Getting citizenship is kinda hard though You basically have to be able to assure everyone and their mum that you are able to support yourself But all in all I kinda think thats fair enoughOh and we are one of the oldest kingdoms founded in c935 AD Although it doesnt actually function as a monarchy because one of our late kings gave back the power to the people we still have a royal family and a lot of traditions revolving around the monarchy In reality our Queen doesnt get involved in politics but she sometimes comments on the state of things and its considered a great shame if she doesnt like the way the government is running the country Her kids the Crown Prince and his brother are heavily involved in fundraising and charity Both are exmilitary and the Crown Prince is a former Frogman navy seal He often runs with us at a charity event called Royal Run If you become head of state the Queen has to retrify your government If you become an officer in the army shell also hold an audience for you Its that kind of stuff that goes on Ive only really met her face to face 3 times though Ive met the princes a lot of times through work though And my oldest cousin exFrogman helped train the crown prince Or so goes the stories in my family So yeah I mean I love living here But Im army and Im kinda biased I guessEdit2 42000DKK 624053 current ratesEdit3 I hope I answered your questions mate Feel free to ask away Sorry for the long post btw People rarely ask me anything and I got carried awayEdit4 Im so glad so many found this helpful Thanks for the gold and platinum Wow|1 I will work as always and pray I dont get sick because I cant afford to not work|1 Correct however it shows a distinct lack of priorities We cannot use that 15T on medical infrastructure vaccine research etc until it gets paid back|0 Uvlight could help slowing down or killing bacteria|0 God i sure hope so|1 Yeah I heard up reduced capacity too Our manufacturing time has essentially doubled because theyre so short staffed|1 This is why we need to do our part and social distance in our respective parts of the world where we still can make a difference Lightening the load for our brave medical professionals is better for the ones who both need and provide help Seeing all these people party for St Pattys in the US on my IG feed made me lose quite a lot of faith in humanity this weekend|1 just eat the Effing chicken and quit complaining i hear its tasty with hot doughnuts|0 Hey I just got released from isolation Imma celebrate with an Orange Julius and some Sbarros Who does this|1 Dont worry I have been backing up the subreddits Shout out to my boys at rdatahoarder|1 Thank you for this|1 My boyfriend is very supportive too He hasnt gone back to his factory job after learning that they imported 150 workers from a factory overseas that had a positive case He encouraged me to forcibly stay at home and make my bosses come up with a plan if they want to keep me employed or not Fact is our jobs are not worth our lives|1 Good We need more of this|1 People that are homeless in a first world country are homeless because of mental illness andor drug addiction not because there arent resources available to them You need a bank account to receive money and you need the necessary mental capacity to get a bank account|0 Maybe the gov planted that leak video so you find your thoughts and underline the official data Thrust nobody Mr Robot S01E01|0 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 I think that Imperial College estimate is eerily accurate Thanks so much for sharing BTW Maybe not today because of how sensitive people are to this but Im going to guess long term months years that most people will never know they were a host|1 Well COVID19 is fairly contagious but not overwhelmingly so It takes a few weeks for it to really get the ball rolling in a country It does seem to have a fairly high number of healthy carriers At least for now there doesnt seem to be much of a propagation in the southern hemisphere Even in China we didnt get to the point in which basically everyone would be affected For this study to be true it would have to be The only part that could end up being true is the economic impact but its fairly hard to predict|1 The best thing to do now is to follow South Koreas example where the death rate is the lowest less then 1 percent They have tested the largest number of people setting up drive through testing sites which are accessible to every citizen It looks like the bipartisan corona bill has guaranteed funding for a similar program Hopefully it gets implemented soon|1 Low percentages are still a lot of people if the population is large enough|0 You mean the wealthiest state on the planet If need be yes|1 I am sorry that is happening That would be very difficult Are your inlaws aware that Italy is basically shut down Do they know how exponential growth works I hope you can find a way to get through to them|1 Shes concerned about leaving her catOH COME ON You have to be making this shit up Shes playing right into the stereotype|0 Its a morbid curiosity yeah History playing out in real timeIts a sick crossover episode with rdataIsBeautiful|0 It says that in literally the second paragraph of the article Crazy how many people will criticize an article without even opening it lol|0 Yeah I was saying in lateJan that I suspect must be over 100000 already for such a severe gov response rumours that were coming out fact is they didnt include suspected cases didnt test to confirm many of those suspected cases Im in Hong Kong were not doing to badly most folks protecting themselves as much as possible but Im wondering what number of infected people is the tipping point where it just spreads exponentially|0 Lol these guys gonna donate some plasma stuff to us and my boomer neighbors still going to be labeling all Chinese people as bateaters|1 You fucker|0 Bring up N Korea and theyll start making fun of their dear leader nonsense I guarantee it|1 You are correct Thats why I said number deaths to increase upto 21 days I want to stay hopeful that why I said just 21 days and not more I am no expert just extrapolating available information Also from you I learned that younger patients may take longer time to get critical|1 Why not if you live in a single family home I could stay home for at least 2 weeks at this point because I have enough supplies I halted my gym membership in December because I can only go when I have my kids and I dont want them in the childcare during cold and flu season Im just a normal person You think politicians arent given special attention in situations like this|0 yeah like a week ago USA had 400 confirmed cases yet managed to export more infected people than that to other countriesI wouldnt put too much stock in confirmed cases besides S Korea and the fuckin cruise ship|1 In the US this attitude is more widespread among people with conservative political leaning Trump supporters Basically when this first hit Trump called is a hoax and said the political left and media were blowing it out of proportion and using it to attack him Hes not really saying that anymore but I still see lots of people making those comments about it online saying only pussies are worried about it Weird to hear of Europeans saying the same stuff as Trump|0 Yeah I tried looking for a source on the claim all I could find was anonymous german government representative saying it happened as the headline implies and a tweet from the company saying it never happened and a couple US govt officials basically implying that the US govt met with but didnt make a bid for the company Its getting difficult to parse through the political posturing and find the news about whats going on with the actual virus on this subreddit|0 Id do the opposite try to hold out until a vaccine Probability of permanent damage to lungs kidneys testes infertility|0 I use a neighborhood app called Nextdoor and we make sure people have foodsupplies and encourage checking in on other neighbors This virus happening during an age of online connectivity is such an asset All of the community level actions give me the hope I need when so much is uncertain|1 No checks in Amsterdam either today I was surprised|0 I read a theory weeks ago that the reason more men than women were getting COVID19 was because women are less likely to touch their faces and eyes if theyre wearing makeup so we are giving the virus less chances to enter the bodyNo scientific studies to back it up but I do wonder if thats the case because I know I dont touch my madeup face if I can help itAnd wash your brushes anyway Hair brushes too|1 Good point|1 Yep Wuhan is to biomed what Shenzen is to electronics|1 Im in Canada too saw some young Asians in line at Costco last week wearing black fashion masks not once did they touch their face Im so conscious of not doing same and hate it Once someone dies in the city from CV I bet lots will start wearing them And if its anyone under 50 more social distance|0 Easily higher Ironic that we have a great wealthy country but were lacking a lot in healthcare Which of course makes us less great|1 Surely the amount or cases crossing the border will be much less than the cases from community spread at this point All else being equal in terms of how a society is acting border restriction just delays the peak by a few days when there has been community spread at huge economic costs I dont see the point in restricting travel People are starting to practice social isolation That should be enough to flatten the curve noPS im not that confident in my understanding just expressing things as I currently understand rhem|0 We witnessed it on Super Tuesday as well Lets just face it we live in an oligarchy All hail the market|1 Put him in with all the political prisoners|0 We need more guts to fight this|0 411 confirmed cases based on how many being tested Would like to know thx |1 give some to canada pls|1 I work in American schools in a moderately poor area So many parents send a sick kid to school because they cant afford a sitter or the day off|0 Your submission has been removed Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users encouraging harm racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Malaria used to be endemic throughout the American South southern Europe etc just FYI Its not gone because it suddenly got colder|1 Look up the transmission rates and super spreaders This virus has exponential growth One case is enough to know whats going to happen|1 Would that not destroy a good portion of their voting base Or while donning my own tinfoil hat they just trying to load up before the coming economic disaster follow by climate disaster|0 Well their PR works so props to them for that|1 If you wanna do it right shut down the malls too didnt we have like two known outbreaks almost or happened I know a mall can fit more then 500 people so why are they still open to the public|1 The entire purpose of the federal government is to look after the safety and security of its citizens as a whole when state governments alone may not be equipped to handle itThis is a global concern and requires more response than whatever local governments can provide The federal government absolutely should have scenarios and responses in place and they should be acting upon themLocal groups are hampered by federal responses Testing cant be doneconfirmed Information isnt flowing How can we not look to DC for helpHow can I have any confidence in this government for any emergency situation if theyre not taking this seriously Classifying briefings on something that directly concerns every American citizen is foolish and will only inspire more fear They are taking absolutely no visible steps to stop misinformation or to attempt to address the potential consequences of the pandemicSecrecy and sequesters are the exact opposite steps to take|0 So I guess trump administration is going to be in a cruise ship off of USA since he doesnt want numbers going up|0 What is the amount of testingAre we testing all people or a subset of peopleHow much are we under testing in the US If we tested more people would we get more cases or lessIf we get more positive cases what does that do to the CFR Does it go up or down|1 So many words from someone so lost|0 I am also really struggling with thisI have 2 children of preschool age one an infant I also have 2 stepchildren who attend 2 different schools one of which is half a mile from a closed school My husband and I both have at risk relatives My MIL works in a very public facing role and would certainly not stop this she is one of those who doesnt listen to experts I imagine she is fairly unaware of coronavirus despite being in a job where she really needs to beMy husband is totally on board with prepping we have plenty to last months He is being very careful at work though is the only one doing so of the many thousand who work there apparently Im still on maternity leave for now but I work in a hospital in a patient facing role with a vulnerable populationBut he is considering going to live with his parents for a while once things kick off so that he can still see his other 2 children and not put me and the little ones at risk and also help his parents And just accept that he will get it and they will all get it and that he wont see us for a while But I also think he thinks it will never come to this and that Im mental You can see him struggling with everyone on one side saying just flu and the reality on the other he doesnt want to deal basically and I think he thinks itll be easier with his mum where he can pretend its fine But equally hes trying to work out how to secure the house from lootersIm sad and frightened and want to be selfish and ask him to stay Being so alone for potentially months is such a scary thought I cant even believe any of these things are considerations Its all insane I feel like Im mentally ill on then one hand but while far from an expert I have a better understanding than most of viruses epidemiology and human health and can see this is seriousMy friend who is due to give birth any day has nothing in at all foodsupply wise and says its annoying and she hopes it blows over soon|0 The part of me that worries about getting it also wonders how my body will actually respond to it given that my particular ailment is a whacked out jacked up immune system that has a history of lung and kidney involvement Theres a part of me that hopes that because I do have nutty antibodies that already are paranoid about my lungs and kidney cells theyre going to do their thing Thats probably just wishful thinking but some of us autoimmune patients are capable of some pretty wild things like the case of a woman with lupus whose body made antibodies to HIV Overall I really just dont want to find out as I do have lung issues including asthma and chronic respiratory problems are definitely linked with a higher fatality rate 8 according to the recent WHO report|1 Wondering if they will put in quarantine and more harsh controls before elections and then use that to suspend elections and increase the Presidents term|0 Lots of water surfactant are a good general guideline Using things like bleach etc on an unknown agent can actually make it worseIts just sort of a law of nature that wash your hands with soap and water is the answer to most of lifes problems|1 Yes its late stage capitalism at its absolute worst People buying 3 cart fulls of hand sanitizer only to turn around and sell it for 10x what they paid for it Making a profit at other peoples expense|1 Im glad you said that Im just did what an earthly person should do Because how beautiful the world is but how fragile Actually the earth is getting worse No borders no race no color no gender i just hope people all over the world makes the earth better No pollution no disease no poverty no war no discrimination I know its so difficult that hardly achieve But we cant be negative because of that As a old Chinese saying goes plant trees for the benefit of posterity just do it And finally well get to it wirelessly Thank you for reading my words I hope it will help you Once again I hope you safe and health Sweet dream|1 Thats just it though its already a full blown crisis There is no stopping this or slowing it down China tried and guess what it BARELY worked They are going to have a secondary mass outbreak as soon as people start coming back Were at the point where this will rage uncontrolled till it burns itself out due to mass immunity due to exposureOr is that to much truth for you people|0 I have a lot of anxiety so I wouldnt make the trip However my friend flew to CA last week to go to a show at the SF Ballet Didnt give the travel a second thought My friends in SF are going about life as normal for the moment Id say go for it wash your hands and be proactive if you DO develop symptoms youll be fine but dont go out and infect others|1 Im never buying Chinese stuff again That government sucks|0 Anyone on deaths bed then Thats generous|1 Just when you think its not going to be as bad as contagionthe movie|0 Universities in Madrid at least are cancelled from the 11th until the 25th|0 No problem stay safe|0 Explains my anecdotal experience was feeling better four days ago so I took an ibuprofen before bed in the hopes I would wake up at 100 When I woke up my lungs and throat felt worse and the cough was more painful Today I am back to feeling as good as I did four days ago|1 This is good This is the way|1 I think they say being prepared while they have a common lack of health care capacities similar to other EU countries|1 Please stop fear mongering the Spanish Flu infected get this 500000000 COVID19 is nowhere near this It killed between 50000000 and 100000000 million This researcher is full of it httpsyoutubeUDY5COg2P2c|0 Fuck them|0 Smiling and talking about Jesus|1 Thank you for your effort|1 Im currently at the airport in incheon Lol its pretty deadIm nervous about flying|1 Damn are you watching me Lmao Such a creepy notification to receive at 437 AM|1 Yeah thats right|1 might be time to postpone it|0 I agree these benefits should be extended indefinitely I myself worked for six years with no PTO no holidays and no sick leave I stayed home two days because I couldnt stop vomiting and even then when I got back to work my manager rolled their eyes and said sure sure when I told them how sick I had been|0 Cant handle someone who has a different point of view CaLl ThEm RaCiSt How original|0 I would argue for jail time|0 Yes I agree Glad to hear they are taking it seriously in your area too|1 Just listened to Legends and Lucid thats good music|1 I dont really get it why subscribe to these things if youve got it all sussed Go carry on socialising Ive also been following it for a couple of months Didnt take a lot of working out to realise global spread was inevitable What got my attention was Chinas response and the lack of media coverage So I searched for answers Ive given my husband a running commentary of whats about to happen He didnt believe it for a long time I just informed myself The information has been there all along if people cared to know Perhaps all those new people should do their research before commenting|1 Which test The Coviid 19 argene test Cant say as its still being validated and not at my site Even if I had my hands on that data I wouldnt put it on Reddit I would like to keep my jobTheres going to be different LODs with every assay Based on argene literature they are typically that sensitive|1 Take the risk Be calm and explain yourself clearly as well as why youre concerned the info in this post calmly explained should be enough If you think youre doing the right thing dont be afraid to look crazy if youre wrong|1 You may be right but behavioural science is barely a social science its basically marketing lol|1 Heh tell me about it Theyve never ordered from Fisher or Kelly scientific When the supplier doesnt have the chemicals you are going to wait a LONG time|0 Good thing the world is bigger than America I am sure we will be happy to use these ventilators here in Canada if we run out of medical equipment and people are dyingOr how about this If hospitals are businesses if the USA is out of free ventilators could a hospital not be offering patients to come use these new uncertified ventilators if they are willing to sign away their right to sue and pay the hospital with their spare kidney Sounds like a business opportunity to me|1 Exactly prices will go up Plenty of Americans will work in a field as long as the pay is competitive They wont work at the rate an illegal immigrant will work at though|0 Do we know whether those cases were actually reinfections though or just people being released when not yet completely healthy|0 Panic causes panic buying bro|0 Someone got bad and was deleted truth hurts corona bros|0 It OnLy kIlLs OlD PeoPLex200Bas if young people also dont have underlying health problems|0 Sorry I had a dimwit donnie moment there|0 Martial law we can eat the rich right|1 So thats why my engine is running a little rich|1 7 Death rate|0 Its not a new drug so it has been tested before But now that it may prove an effective treatment for COVID theres a lot more reason to move quickly to establish how effectiveThere arent any trials of this drug specifically for treating COVID that have concluded but several are under way around the world now Give it around a month and well hear more news|1 We all die Its just a matter of time D|0 Thats the dream But people cba|1 I walked out of nursing completely in January because of how unsafe the environment for patients nurses has becomeAnd Im sure that made things better|1 Goverment still say that indonesia have zero confirmed cases The last suspected corona patient dies of swine flu httpsjakartaglobeidnewsindonesiasayssuspectedcoronaviruspatientdiesofswinefluhttpsjakartaglobeidnewsindonesiasayssuspectedcoronaviruspatientdiesofswineflu|0 There are many possible solutions to the problems scientists are trying to solve like a needle in a haystack Gaming computers have powerful GPUs which are better then CPUs at specific tasks like this one Any who downloads this project will be given a haystack to help search for the needle The more people that help the smaller the haystack gets|1 Welcome to rCoronavirus We have a very specific set of ruleshttpwwwredditcomrcoronavirusaboutrules here Here are the highlights Be civil Personal attacks and accusations are not allowed Repeated offences may lead to a ban Avoid offtopic political discussions Comments must be related to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak Comments focused on politicians rather than public policy will be lockedremoved at our discretion and repeat offenders may be banned Please use reliable sources Unverified twitteryoutube accounts facebook pages or just general unverified personal accounts are not acceptable General questions and prepping info should be kept to the Daily Discussion Thread No giving or soliciting medical advice This includes verified healthmedical professionalsIf you are feeling anxious depressed or overwhelmed please see our list of support resourceshttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruswikisupportI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|0 Former employee here and I couldnt agree more This is a fucking dumpster fire|0 I was never tested in October for even the fluUnlikely to be true unless theyd already diagnosed you with a bacterial infection just some antibioticsOh so they diagnosed you with a bacterial infection x200BMy symptoms today would be seen as a possible COVID19 x200BSo would the symptoms of millions of other people from dozens of virus and bacteria every year x200BIf I were tested for antibodies now it would be inconclusive that I was infected in October rather than more recently with a very minor infectionYou werent infected in october|0 Singapore has one of the most advanced healthcare systems in the world extremely high standard of living monetary might and also a government that has a rather tight controlYou dont find many of these factors in other countries|1 So pathetic lol I know Germany basically shuts down on a weekend but come on lol|1 I guess a lot of people ignore how the people who have recovered are still damaged rather permanently in the lungs httpswwwgooglecomampswwwbusinessinsidercomcoronavirusrecoverydamagelungfunctiongaspingairhongkongdoctors202033Famp|0 The new cases today in the whole of China is 8 No deaths A single digit number|0 Disagree The FDA and CDC could have unleashed companies instantly from the regulations They waited several weeks to do so Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water|0 Head office will not allow it And were actually currently busier than usual as students like to think theyre big and hard and better than this|1 Same logic that my professor made when buying books You can literally apply that to anything It doesnt really mean anything Yeah Im triggered as a former student|1 Well alcohol breaks protein chains down so prions should technically be killable with alcoholbut yes when it comes to prion disease they incinerate all PPE the moment they are done to stop it from spreading|1 We have a prime minister no president|0 Particularly weird since a decent chunk of the growth in the USSeattle area is potentially due to bettermore accessible testing rather than new cases and unless this is true of all countries it doesnt really address how much of the trend is due to expansion of testing vs actual new cases|1 This was a bioweapon Most likely built by the US and stolen by China EVERYONE involved should pay They should not have played god and we will pay the price|0 Now that is fcking dark I dont think thats true There are crappy nursing homes here that the staff may abandon But there are really really swanky ones a crap ton of them in suburbs that the staff may decide to live in source former security guard at gigantic nursing homeindependent living property There is a doctor office dentist office small store countless lounging rooms of books and games professional kitchen bigger than cruise ship kitchens basement storage of years of supplies They lock down pretty good too with steel slamming fire doors throughout coridors state of the art securityfire sensors shatterbullet resistant glass in every nook and cranny|0 Iran has had 1 MP die so far More than a dozen infected|0 Definitely|1 Haughty assholes are the exact target Im looking for Good luck when the quarantines hit|1 Thats simply not true But if thats your belief I cant change it|0 Ive heard that theyre doing the same thing this time around even recording deaths as pneumonia to keep numbers down This blew into the open less than a week ago but one of the first cases diagnosed in Australia flew in from China in the first week of January Theyve been hiding it for weeks|0 it was extraordinaryIt was like 1988 Donald Trump Still kind of mental bit coherent and ontask|1 I did not advise people to leave their homes or go into other peoples homes I am not an expert I made it clear in my other response that I didnt know what exactly we should be doing But I do know that doing nothing is not acceptable Dont ask me what you should be doing ask the people around you|1 This isnt about being overwhelmed its about showing that we are experiencing the same exponential growth rate as Italy Nothing more nothing less|1 The idea behind the deliberate infection parties is that theyll get the virus get it over with be immune and contribute to herd immunity Its stupid but that is what people are thinking they should do due to the governments absolutely shit shit strategy|0 Could someone explain how this Subreddit was created in 2013 when the virus was discovered in December of 2019|1 Thank you Thats what I had read as well but this lists them seperately for some reason|1 Wow excellent content Thanks|1 Would a CPAP help prevent pneumonia|1 I really dont know they havent asked anyone to do so who returned from Italy as far as I know They have however asked romanians living in cointries with lots of cases like UK and Italy not to return for Easter holidays if possible|1 Harbin SHSIf so love those girls|1 Came here to say this You can be injured in many ways just living your life but I have been trying to tell people this is NOT like flu You can be vaccinated against flu But not this virus And people who are diabetic or immunosuppressed or with congestive heart failure are just as likely as the next person to die in a crash They are MORE likely to die when someone who is not concerned about getting this illness or spreading it|0 Ill look into that Theres a few job opportunities Im looking at This is a stressful time|0 Each year in the United States more than 250000 people have to seek care in a hospital due to pneumonia Unfortunately about 50000 people die from the disease each year in the United States Most of the people affected by pneumonia in the United States are adultsx200BThe virus causes pneumonia so|1 Hold on tight Japan No stopping it there now|0 No problem I actually cant figure out how you do edit the title so lve approved it Ill check if someone else knows and get back to you|0 2 confirmed cases in Fulton I work in north Fulton I know they dont have many tests available but it surprises me they didnt test for influenza at leastI hope your kiddo feels better soon|1 I resell a lot of things granted its mostly things that are widely available that I speculate on and hoardingreselling maskssanitizeretc is just way too low Thats only going to help it spread when people cant get access and a few are hoarding them for profit|1 Honestly no Im not aware of any way to make donations into TDC but our agency is well funded and has disaster protocol including locking down the unit and having officers remainsleep on the unit 247 if needed In Texas visitation was cancelled Dont get me wrong Ive seen a lot of bad things but theres a lot of inmates that are truly good people that have unfortunately made really bad decisions I feel for them It sucks In a perfect world the nonviolent offenders would be released on parole and allowed to go be with their families|0 I hadnt looked into ozone Ill have to investigate|0 Nope we are SEVERELY SCREWED in South Africa Our Health Experts claim it will not spread because and I quote Even if one or two people get infected the spread of it is not going to be very good because the virus doesnt like heatEven though WHO says there is no evidence for thisPlease keep in mind that this is the same country that STAPLED INSTRUCTIONS ON TO CONDOMS TO PREVENT HIV INFECTION I REPEAT STAPLED MAKING HOLES IN CONDOMS TO PREVENT HIV SPREADING httpsmnews24comSouthAfricaNewssouthafricaconfirmsfirstcaseofcoronavirusbutexpertssayitsunlikelytospread20200305httpswwwnewscientistcomarticle2233249willthecovid19coronavirusoutbreakdieoutinthesummersheathttpsmgcozaarticle19990218condomswerestapled|0 Wrong context this is all referring to the company who is suing the guy who made the replacement 3D printed valve in Italy US healthcare isnt involvedDont know if the valve company from the US or not but the valve company needs to be smacked down for this and taught that suing a Good Samaritan who figured out how to make their part faster cheaper and literally saved lives by doing so is unacceptableNow as a US citizen and staring the corona pandemic in the face there are a whole other host of soapboxes I could get on regarding the profiteering around medical treatments and supplies but I just woke up and dont feel like opening that can of worms|0 Chances are low While it was mostly coming in by plane it was easier to track and contain Now that its all over the US its pretty much impossible to track and contain I expect local transmission to take off in the wake of the Sudbury case|1 You have a lot more faith than I in the British system Im afraid I think all nations will try to downplay the situation enough to keep people out of panic mode for the sake of keeping the peace and the economic stability|1 Except ebola had like a 90 death rate frankly its insulting when people compare far more severe emergency like that to the coronavirus|0 They dont have enough tests Thats the problem Theyre trying to prioritize the test kits for the highest risk people|0 And the Spanish flu paradoxically killed the healthy It turned an otherwise healthy immune system against the host|0 honestly i still feel climate inaction has been the dumbest thing in human history this is a minor slip up in comparison|0 France has stopped a couple days ago Theyre only counting and testing serious cases that need hospitalization now Italy has also loosened its testing criteria|0 Trump told us it was the flu Then Biden upstaged him so he did a rambling address|0 its best to panic before the rest panics|0 You might just add a line for the US to give some perspective CDC has numbers per week of positive flu infections below i put the graph of the 20182019 US flu season As you see it takes quite a few weeks to max out but does so at 14000 positive detected infections per week note these are only clinical labs reporting but they are the bulk though As you seem to be using cumulative numbers in your graphs you have to keep adding them to the previous At least then it will be visible that corona for now is far less dangerous than your standard flu httpsiimgurcom5ToVeCfjpgI regret not being able to find easily digestible death counts for standard flu in the US apart from pediatric But so far 8200 people died in the US in this years standard flu season Again CDC source Of course all of this is based on the numbers we get from China being correct which is highly doubtfulEdit Im no expert by the way Just found these numbers on CDC webpage Happy to hear from people with more insight into the numbers This is just a laymans view|0 I like pizza|1 A month ago closing the border was racist so borders werent closed or you got tons of shit for closing borders to other countries Now its not racist Guess people finally saw sense|0 The one thing I appreciate is at least the worldometers site does citations for everything so its good to scroll down and look|1 I was thinking of about 50 Last week was about 40 and after seeing more and more leaked videos Im confident the numbers are over 200k|1 Masks work best to stop the spread its that simple They work best to prevent sick people from spreading not healthy people from getting sick x200BNotice doctors offices make you put a mask on if you have flu symptoms but dont make everyone arond you put masks onx200Bx200BTheyve openly said we dont have enough masks and have openly said we need to save the ones we have for medical profesionals|1 What is the standard supply of extra PPE stock in a hospital Is it a few weeks Months Do supervisors prep for a worst case scenario so that there is an adequate supply of essential gear|0 Since hes sub zero wouldnt bacteria and viruses not be able to survive in these temperaturesSo hed be safe anyway|1 Its just the flu right Lets all go to the game and take mask selfies|0 last week in days hospitals will be floodedhere we arecrazy to think when that statement was made last week how crazy it did really soundand then a day afterthen shit started to get real we were just at a few hundred start of last weeknow were at 5000 over 500 increase in less then 24 hours too|0 No its about letting fear run your life Thats what it is|0 I imagine that they hope to slow the rate that the virus spreads Meanwhile they can identify who is sick treatisolate them and simultaneously allow the virus to run its course and burn out If anything this strategy could make the problem more manageable like containing a fireSouth Korea and Germany seem to be employing effective strategies but not every country has the same resources and healthcare infrastructure|1 For fucks sake how can one be so selfish Im in Japan atm and I plan on getting tested as soon as I get home to Australia and avoiding everyone until I get my results Should be against international laws to do something stupid like this How could anyone respect a man who has literally just put all of America at risk of getting the virus|0 Happy cake day|1 I know me too But look at Italy 1700 in 9 days Wowheres the wiki on Italy outbreak httpsenmwikipediaorgwiki2020coronavirusoutbreakinItalyIf you scroll down to timeline its pretty scary If we get it like that it will go to 10 M The timeline for S Korea is interesting The one for US is showing we are exactly where SK was 19 days ago Its like it just putts along for awhile till boom Exponential incubation period plus undetected cases ppl not realizing it could be this virus |1 They just increase death rate to 35 Expect that to keep going up China was really on top of things in Wuhan and death rate was 58 percent Other countries not as good at ramping up expect 9 percent|0 If anyone with any sense of responsibility and mathematical understanding had been involved in a responsible way as soon as they saw what actions China was taking they would have said ok over the next few weeks we need to make it a national priority to be able to make a large number of tests of patients with respiratory illnesses even without clear connections to China to make sure we stay on top of what is going on there is no way travel restrictions alone can be relied on and we need to start proactively looking at medical supplies and general readiness of the health care systemMore or less the opposite happened with production of tests vanishing into some incomprehensible chain of unclear failures and nobody taking the steps to find other solutions|1 But we have learned that Sars Cov2 does in fact bind well very well in fact Maybe China knew of its strong binding affinity to some of the critically involved immune receptors that they freaked out and locked down their population Either they publicly overreacted which isnt likely or they knew from research that this virus was virulent and therefore took the only measures they knew would work The spread will only stop with zero physical contact But also interesting is the fact that China has yet to release quarantine controls in large part which potentially implies they know everyone will just get reinfected and the whole process starts again If that is the case will we ever be together physically as a people again|1 Thats why I dont care when celebs die and I dont know any personally so why do people care so much when they pass like Kobe that was recent|0 Are you saying to me that the virus is racist Damn we should do something about it Racism no more s|0 If anyone didnt get a chance to watch he mentioned his teams full report should be available soon Just had to be looked over by Tedros and the Chinese government Hopefully that doesnt take long and nothing is censored|1 Interesting Is there any way you could update us on this Even if news breaks I suspect the status of your confirmed cases will not be disclosed|1 Exact same in the uk Boris the spider stated the exact same shit I can only guess that they have obviously forecasted the health services to be completely over run due to inadequate funding at the best of times and littleno preparation for this scenario with a large percentage of healthcare workers becoming infected and theyre strategy is Maximise the speed and spread of the virus so nearly everyone has it at once then quarantine Those who will die will die in that time those who will live are presumably Immune Or able to fight it better in the future Fuck knows I dont trust the government especially the tories Im just trying to read between the lines and rationalise their totally backwards strategy the best I can|0 The WHO expert who insists it can be stopped Dr Bruce Aylward is also a Canadian Hes right but it takes guts to shut down an entire country But thats whats needed You either do it early China or wait till its too late and try it anyway after you tun out of optionsItaly and soon others|0 Natural selection hard at work|1 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 Many people I know in the states are actively berating people trying to spread information about the Coronavirus calling them fearmongers and acting as if nothing is happening Its not good to panic thats for sure But it sure as hell isnt good to shrug off the Coronavirus as if it were a common cold|0 Not being dumb at all People going on cruises at this point are morons|1 Dont forget personal hygiene Ive seen quite a few more men not wash their hands as a habit than women|1 No If you have a fever in KING COUNTY you should definitely stay home|1 The implications of a sentient fkin virus is frightening|0 Thats the idea behind reddit the good stories get upvoted and rise to the top Links or stories that are lacking get downvoted or no votes at all its a community system so we dont have a king green lighting stories like farkcom Not saying fark isnt good just a different system|1 afaik chloroquine builds up in the cytosol of the cells and inhibits endocytosis by changing the pH Hydroxychloriquine is currently in studies and Im hoping that works as well since its easier to get has fewer side effects and is generally safer httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5192383httpswwwncbinlmnihgovpmcarticlesPMC5192383|1 im a brazilian and didnt get the joke could you please explain it to me|1 If youre worried about coronavirus yes I think you are|1 The sad part is we dont get any changes How long have we been complaining about this and nothing has happened|0 yes actually lmaohttpswwwredditcomrnottheonioncommentsfgnj0dcoronavirusconferencegetscanceledbecauseofutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2xhttpswwwredditcomrnottheonioncommentsfgnj0dcoronavirusconferencegetscanceledbecauseofutmsourceshareutmmediumweb2x|1 Its important to remember that this is a new virus and we are learning more about it every day the agency continued The cycle of infection with COVID19 is not yet well understood but the amount of virus is typically highest when the person is sickest As the illness resolves the amount of virus fallsFrom the way I read it it seems as if this statement was from the CDC They should be saying this on a regular instead of the 14 days isolation and negative tests mean you are in the clear and America is still at low risk nonsense|0 Uhhh virus wise yeah probs once it inevitably escalates a bit more|1 COVID19 is officially spreading persontoperson in KY USAAnd no way to stop it at all|0 Amazing Good to show others how it spreads because it is difficult to visualize Any idea what the red vs green means|1 Honest question whats a good argument to bring up to those kind of people I recently read an article that this flu season there are already 70000 infected I would like to be able to make people realize that this virus is not just the flu Is it because it seems to be so much more infectious and we dont have any vaccines at hand|1 Wow That is just nuts|1 What a good system |1 Good point Amazon should buy it from them and donate it|1 Im in college I was the only one on my team who was saying we shouldnt be going to Florida for spring break Coach got so mad called it ungrateful not to want to go on our free trip Was mocked for staying back in the room most of the trip not drinking to keep my immunity up while everyone else got hammered All you see on peoples Snapchat stories is pictures of them packed together at bars and houseparties with captions like social distancing making a mockery of the whole thing I already didnt have much faith in humanity but manCoach everyone saying what youre afraid of getting the sniffles Snaps at our assistant coach for wearing gloves saying its just a little flu bug people like you overreacting like this are the problem|0 Love from Seattle|1 Are you in LondonI suspect the plan is to reduce the chance of healthcare workers being infected outside work and bringing it in with them|0 How about we bring back the word romanticizing|1 Guys the last thing we want is for you to be so sick you cant effectively commit suicide murder|0 Youre confusing that with the zombie virus|0 Its going to collapse for sure Not sure what that will look like I fear a migrant issue like the world has never seen|1 Been to Kiev in 2018 It is a lovely city|1 Im not disagreeing with you Im frustrated with trump as well|0 I mean we humans are kind of pests to nature if you think about itWe are not a pest we are cancer if the planet would be an Entityx200BHumankind grows take ground and recources and change without any consideration of the hosts earth ability to survive|0 It wasnt always the epicenter this really started after a lot of folks got back from Fashion Week in Milan Which was easily predictable but we did nothing to screen people coming backIts just that things can spread rapidly in a city reliant on public transportation thats this crowded|1 Glad to hear Ive got family in Shanghai and am quite concerned but they are staying indoors for the most part and living on deliveries also the fridge and pantry are still fully stocked from CNY when I visited Whats your favorite flavor of Supermarkets in Hong Kong are getting restocked and if I see anything I can mail you some|1 Americans will be paying 500 per pop too so not only does Trump look good Trumps corporate friends will make a lot of money given how backwards the Health Care system in America is|1 Im not obese but I am overweight and I just got serious about losing weight a month ago Ive already lost over 10lbs and am going strong but Im worried it could be too little too late|0 Good post Its what we need Mine would be anything capable of cleaning is good for hand washing Fairy Shampoo Whatever If you cant fight soap or anti bac use what you have already|1 Ugh Can we simply move on from shaking hands social hugging kissing and the likeA wave slight bow or hand on the heart allows you to greet someone and works far better to prevent the spread of germs|1 Predictions with no countermeasures considered are pointless predictions human behaviour can be a major influencing factor See httpsscholargooglecoukscholarhlenassdt02C5qjansenfunkepidemicspreadbtnGdgsqabsu23p3D7Alu6gCaPaQJFor a good overview|1 Looks like you were anxiously awaiting your husband starting that job 26 days ago We knew about the threat then Maybe he should have waited to apply Someone has to make money so you can have the privilege to work from home right Im literally going to be taking care of people that are infected and going home to my kids Take your fake outrage and privilege elsewhere|0 No but this guy has a very valid point Theres not many other professions where 1000s of people are transported to various shoots in other countries Usually crews work on various films throughout the year and with all the various crew positions some could be working for two weeks on one gig and two months on another These people are within close proximity of each other and I dont know if youve ever been to a shoot before but the facilities are usually subpar for extras anyhow and you spend half of your day walking about talking to people and shaking hands with others in the profession Filmmaking is nothing like any other profession within the context of what this guy is talking about Hes right on the money there I can see 2020 being a terrible year for filmmaking|0 Suggesting that Chinas containment measures are even close to adequate is seriously laughable|1 Bloody idiots are everywhere|0 Not surprising Many countries have been copying the authoritarian model for years cf Washington consensus vs Beijing consensus debate COVID19 is the first test global of the fashionable authoritarian model whose preference for happy talk image management and insecure leadership virtually guarantee that it will fail|0 No you cant The 0774 number is of total known cases where the flu numbers are 001 of the entire population healthy and infected Ah I see where youre confused The entire population is the total known cases for flu most are just asymptomatic until memory wanes or an antigenic shift happens Its not coincidence that a radiation patient will get multiple cases of flu a year we are in a constant state of bombardment|0 Im on the other side of the wall so hopefully I can put your mind at ease a little bit Hi I am a contract manager for a company that services Federal facilities That means Im the janitor with an office who works for the governmentIm in regular contact with all the other managers in the company and all of us at various Federal buildings like department of defense USDA Federal aviation administration and so on have been taking extra measures either on our own advice or at the request of our clients to disinfect absolutely everything as frequently as possible At my building we have switched to a hospital grade disinfectant and the heavyduty high risk working gloves We have increased the restroom cleaning frequency from the contracted twice a day to once an hour all of the staff is receiving ongoing training on infection control procedures Our suppliers are providing additional training and heavy duty disinfecting products Our company and our competitors are all taking this opportunity to try and sell our clients additional cleaning services the federal agencies are going to great lengths to protect their employees Ive been doing this for almost 20 years now and I have never seen the entire industry get together with a single cause like thisMy client the department of defense was a little stubborn about spending all the extra money but when the CDC gives them orders they have to complyAt the same time we have all been told to be discreet about these changes so that we dont frighten people People are acting normal on purpose just so everybody else can keep doing what theyre supposed to be doing|1 Please trust me you cant and shouldnt I have 15 years of experience in the creation of medical devices I am medical device engineer This idea would result in the deaths of many many people|1 I dont agree I think it will effectively not matter having its budget cut|0 People will not believe it until they see people dying in the streets Its shitty but true Then they will stay the hell home|0 Bureaucracy is a bitch|0 At no point do I say it is not contagious but very contagious is an exaggeration when you speak in context of diseases that exist in the world|1 Thank you for sharing your experience People in the states are also acting like nothing is happening and our government isnt being very proactive so its very concerning Im glad to hear you mom is doing well|1 Its not inaccurate to label this as socialism since it is a socialist policy All economies are mixed economies with both capitalist and socialist elements and while this one probably temporary policy does not make a country suddenly lean heavily towards socialism they are inching more towards socialism than before This crisis is one of those times where temporary safety nets which are socialist in practice should be put into place|0 Dr Nashans dataAccording to the data in the paper among 1099 pneumonia patients surveyed 927 were nonsmokers accounting for 854 percent of the total 21 had a history of smoking accounting for 19 percent and 137 were smokers accounting for 126 percentIts not proof of anything but nicotine being protective is an interesting hypothesis I would not advise you take up smoking though|1 But what about accidentally being in an elevator with an infected person or something You can not always know how you picked it up|0 So crazy to hear that one story of someone who get hit with a several thousand dollar bill for a test tooGranted it takes some knowhow but running a qPCR with commercial reagents isnt that hard One could frugally source decentish equipment for several thousand and run lots of those tests|0 Water is a human right Like many countries the USA should make denying access to it illegal|0 People that go to bourbon street are some of the dumbest people on earth Its disgusting and as someone else said no one that lives in New Orleans really goes over there|0 Damn Why are my nets empty|0 EMS should have proper barrier devices to prevent transmission Key word is should|0 I dont understand who is spreading this misinformation or whyThe US President his cabinet the person in charge of dealing with the pandemic and the head of the CDC Those are the ones this information|0 Maybe they are going to announce community spread in the presser before they put the numbers up Maybe the case jump is huge and they want to feed us the numbers wrapped in some positive jargon Regardless the situation canny be good considering we didnt get gta numbers yesterday and the numbers are so late today|1 Damn thats bad Were all fucked Thanks china and thanks to our governments for not doing anything until it was too late The incompetence is shocking but you get what you vote for|0 Thanks|1 I was told today that the NHS is funnelling resources and staff to just life threatening cases so I couldnt get pretty urgent treatment for at least a few months|0 Not saying the video is true but it is possible that people who work there are not from Wuhan originally so may not have the accent|1 Dexamphetamine FTW|1 Arent all of these AIDS like symptoms from autopsies You know people that died and didnt recover at all Its a bit of a stretch saying it leaves you fucked for life when you are extrapolating it from people who died|0 Also a tip from survivors of the spanish flu taking 12 tsp of baking soda in water in the morning and a few times throughout the day apperantly prevented people from catching it even with close prolonged exposure Something about the alkalininity in our bodies not being conducive to viruses and also affective against HIV Im not sure myself but easy to do and cant hurt so Im taking itThought I owed u one |1 How long does it take for people to recover from it or at least for the symptoms to stop|0 My reddit psychologist friend did you take the time to consider that this very post was a cathartic release A necessary therapy of sorts Did you stop and pause to think that perhaps what I wrote wasnt the byproduct of me spending a ton of time on the internet but instead a byproduct of my direct experience considerations in my every day lifeNo Did you not read to the end of the post I made Was that not enough for you in your grand psychological knowledge to deduce that my stresses stem from real world day to day situations that I cant simply turn off the monitor bruh LUL aboutNo You just wanted to offer this petty advice that is tbh pretty obvious to anyone Well I hope you got some sort of cathartic release from stating dime a dozen sort of statements under the guise of being concerned about my mental healthPlease feel free to DM me any further fortune cookie advice you have|1 I mean if youre buying as much food as you can carry because you think the world is going to end then youre probably overreacting My point is that its not a bad idea to buy more than you need for situations like this before they arise|1 Interesting I found out hand sanitizer what making me REALLY sick and had to stop using it|0 Im so confused with this as someone whos moved around a lot I get asked is there a specific doctor youd like to see a lot and I dont understand the question like is the guy youre putting me in front of qualified to practice medicine and does he have my history Great any then|1 Being ill is nothing to be embarrased about I am a Boomer Ok I have learned that life is so very short Just take care of your body and mind best you can Reach out for support This too SHALL pass Be smart but live your best life even in the midst of this One day at a time Its all any of us have Face your deepest fears Stare them down Then go about your days Be hopeful even in the face of pestilence Dont allow fear to rule you Take authority over your mind right now You DO have that within your power I promise you that|1 Someone get this post to the studio heads Money to be made lives to be saved|1 second of all the death rate of the flu is 1 vs around 37 for the coronavirusThat is because there are so few cases of COVID 19 and it hit groups of older people with already underlying health issues That 37 is the worst possible representation considering the circumstances The common flu deaths is low because so many people get it|0 Unfortunately I work at a prison Someones gotta watch them Same for the utility and emergency services Im all for a lockdown though This is spiraling fast|0 I tried to get tested today Impossible Ive been sick all week Its just a call center Your primary care doctor cAnd test you Its not the paradise of success it sounded like You have to go through the military hospital Which is about an hour and half outside Seattle And I couldnt get a live person on the phone|1 My thoughts exactly Good thing is that we boil water for drinking in China|1 httpsweibocom2630028693It0oliY8Jfrompage1001062630028693profilewvr6modweibotimetypecommenthttpsweibocom2630028693It0oliY8Jfrompage1001062630028693profilewvr6modweibotimetypecommentHis hospital claims they are still fighting for his life despite news that he passed away came out hours before that and even httpstwittercomPDChinahttpstwittercomPDChina reported itMany suspect that this is just a tactic to suppress the masss rage Its midnight here if we see the news that DrLihttpsDrLi died well cry out in anger But if we go to sleep knowing the hospital is still fighting for his life and wake up to his death tomorrow morning some of our rage may come out as disappointmentAre they really fighting for the one last bit of hope Or are they keeping his dead heart plugged and pumping only to pretend our society is not heartless|0 And the servers are coping remarkably well Smaller events previously have messed the servers up something rotten|0 free testing ya right Just spent the evening trying to get a woman in her late 70s with raspy breathing a dry unproductive cough and diarrhea living in an assisted living care center a few miles from LifeCare in Kirkland who has already been put in quarantine by the facility tested Guess what Still not tested Two options 911 or wait and seeEdit Heads need to roll CDC you had one fing job|1 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 BuT iTs PaNiC bUyInG|0 I worry about the public panic running out to buy up everything People clean out stores before a few inches of snow fall This will make people drop a grand per family at the storeYou realize thats EXACTLY what you are doing Panic buying weeks and weeks of goods|0 Based on what youve learned and observed do you believe that there is validity to the claim that the virus was running rampant in some areas a lot longer than what is officially recognized For context Im referring to a claim by a Dr in the US who suggested this after working with the infected on the US West Coast Some have interpreted this as the virus potentially having made rounds in an untested populace for the last month or two but that speculation which Ive heard seemed to come from people who were speculating wildly|0 Its the official hanyupinyin transliteration of the Chinese character in Latin characters Both of you arent wrong but I think you are talking past each other|1 I would imagine its because diabetes weakens the immune system and one of the worst things this virus does is attack the immune system destroying white blood cells|0 Lol this whole thread is being astroturfed by bot accounts with repetitve comments about mike and his hummus Wasnt there a news story about them using 1600 trolls or something to quiet things down|1 Poland has 07 known infection people per million UK 6 USA 3 Poland wins race to economic recovery by staggering the lockdown announcements early|1 Ive tried But she doesnt want to hear it she doesnt want to admit that daily life could be extremely disrupted Idk what to do at this point|0 I agree he probably wouldnt push for it but I can actually see Biden actively trying to kill investigations under his unity and return to normalcy line|0 Wasnt my post Afraid Ill have to rely on OP to respond|0 What was the cited reason for the ban|0 I recently did that for the first time at a french grocery store It was such a cool feeling Such a relaxing shopping experience when nobody is around You just wander around and check out their high variety of products Did it before in the US but at a Walmart and that was a scary freakshow though Here in Germany its so stessful Every shop has to close at 20h and on sundays so supermarkets are packed throughout saturday like hell|0 Honestly I dont think Italys numbers would be that different Perhaps if a few sick Chinese travelers thought getting around the ban was too much of a bother then it helped Italys numbers But then again why dont Germany or France have more infections than Italy Again I think travel bans may have a small negative effect on infections but that isnt nearly as important as having the infrastructure and healthcare system preparedness needed to test heavily and contact trace inflected people|0 Better to be in a system with private insurance with resources stretched Socialized youll start seeing the choices being made to ignore those at most risk due to rationing of care|1 So I have been doing it wrong this whole time TIL |0 Italy is starting a wide range study with Remdesivir starting it also on patients with less severe clinical symptoms Its going to be the phase 3 trial in the 5 major hospitals affected by the epidemichttpswwwcorriereitsalutemalattieinfettive20marzo13coronavirusviatestlantiviraleremdesivirpartecipaanchelitaliaf0ebb8fc651211eaac89181bb7c2e00eshtmlhttpswwwcorriereitsalutemalattieinfettive20marzo13coronavirusviatestlantiviraleremdesivirpartecipaanchelitaliaf0ebb8fc651211eaac89181bb7c2e00eshtmlEdited to add they are already using remdesivir on critical patients as compassionate care|1 Thats how it should work I agree But theres always certain states that cant keep up in some shape or form I can see certain states shutting boarders to others because of this Though I believe in October Trump sign an executive order detailed in emergency response using Marines and reserves which the details are not constitutionally friendly |1 httpswwwthelocalit20200228italyscoronavirusdeathtollrisesto21as821casesconfirmedhttpswwwthelocalit20200228italyscoronavirusdeathtollrisesto21as821casesconfirmedPlease read this article and stop spreading panic Its about Italy The reason why the numbers are bs is because the virus is not they key factor in the death of the ill but a contributing factor Most people are just at home with mild symptoms and like7 in intensive care Which again might be old people or people with preexisting conditionsI do trust Italy the most with their data for some reason Dunno What I want to add is Ive studied statistics for a very long time due to my engineering studies Trust me when I say this The media will manipulate statistics in favor of terror and panic because this will make you click and buy half of the supermarket in fear of inevitable doom They will do it Its your responsibility not to bait yourself into fear and panic Be careful with numbers Always read EXACTLY what happened Take care|0 Its awful but understandable|0 Pretty much all southern and eastern Europe High unemploymentlow wages or both making it hard to buy a house|1 Diverting resources or doctors globally to the worse hit areas would be nice to see Airline and hotel industry is worried about the impact this is having on them but damn they could be used to help move resources around to contain it or limit how much of a strain this is having on hospitals|0 Then people will say of course he recovered from it he only had a 99 chance of beating it|0 not with that private system they gonna die like medieval peasants|0 Better than the government which knows we cant give then money if we are dead but still seems to be driving people towards death|0 One of the best and most realistic posts here these days ty for this|1 Yup I was the paranoid overreacting and weird one now I get to chill|0 btw did someone manage to punch that Chinese lady from Wuhan on the nose for intentionally hiding her symptoms and posting her Paris vacation pictures on socialmedia i think by now she deserves at least some stern words No racism involved|0 The whole world is still pretending this isnt an airborne virus thats asymptomatic while contagious for weeks Its a mass delusion|0 Death Stranding is lit and relevant|0 Keep in mind that this would be for hospitalized cases so the rate would be elevated since mild cases dont use up hospital space and dangerous secondary infections in underequipped hospitals are commonId guess between 10 and 20And yeah thats what I think too|0 You should For instance the the Netherlands version of the CDC already recommends that hospitals administer chloroquine based medication to anyone getting admitted for COVID19x200BUse Google Translate httpslcirivmnlcovid19bijlagemedicamenteuzebehandeloptieshttpslcirivmnlcovid19bijlagemedicamenteuzebehandelopties|1 It may not affect him badly but he could pass it to you with his recklessness My boyfriend is immunosuppressed like you and the thought of me passing it to him honestly keeps me up at night|1 I have to admit I did not have Wisconsin on my Coronavirus Bingo Card|1 Anyone coming from Thailand no matter what must be in 14 days isolation even with no symptomsNote that even no symptoms fits the usual definition of quarantine a temporary period of isolation of someone with a risk for having contracted a disease but who has not been proven to carry the disease|0 The major reason of locking down is to be able to find all the people positive and quarantine all of them to break the transmission chain if we are in containment phase If there are millions then no point for containment but you wont know until you test enough|1 Yeah all those off road Vespas in Seattle are going to revving up any day|1 Ah yeah thats good perspective ty|1 I havent downvoted you I just cant provide you with what you are asking for And she isnt on the phone all day We have been exchanging comments for five minutes and yes she has been on the phone for the last 20 minutes Look dude theres a lot of information rumor misinformation out there You choose what to believe At the end of the day we all must choose to believe or skeptical about It could be bullshit It could be truth We may never know All i am doing is relaying informationYou decide what to do with it Were all in this together Stay safe brother|0 It will have to get a lot worse for people to look at war as the better alternative|0 nice I hope they dont cancel AX 2020 tho c and that it wont be a repeat of 2019s line con kek|1 Ok well what if we called it an Economic Stimulus check Crazy idea huh|1 I read somewhere that 1 out of every 4 American could be like way more is one medical disaster from bankruptcy This really wont end well|0 Not feeling sick one day then the next feeling a little warm in the morning then full blown fever and weakness within a day You can wake up in full sweats from a fever as well when you went to bed fine|1 I misspoke Density is correlated with rate of spreadPopulation is correlated with likelihood of an emergence China makes up nearly 20 of the global population India 17 Combined they make up around 37 of the global populationOf the 62 21st century epidemics only 13 have originated in either India or ChinaOf those 13 only 6 originated in China or Hong KongSo China is the source of fewer outbreaks than you would statistically expectEven the scary ones of the last two decades are not disproportionally from ChinaMERS Middle EastZika BrazilEbola 20132016 West AfricaKivu Ebola CongoEbola 2004 SudanSwine Flu India2009 Flu Pandemic MexicoSARS was from Hong Kong and now nearly 20 years later nCoronavirus|0 It doesnt matter if its a luxury cruise ship or not its a fucking cruise shipIts going to be smaller then most accommodations no matter how hard you try Koreas quarantine of korean nationals from Wuhan made people stay in isolated rooms 300 people all given their own rooms|0 Think of it like the Chinese version of people that buy jade vagina eggs and drink vinegar upside down covered in crystals The US version is pretty benign but the Chinese version has risks like this|1 I think all the experts in charge are resigned to the fact containment was impossible and we will get thousands of cases like Italy has All they are trying to do is control the timing The best they can hope for is to reduce fatalities by 30 or so which might be saving the lives of hundreds of peopleFrom what Professor Chris Whitty is saying it sounds like some of the drastic steps taken by Italy have been counterproductive Italy was one of the first to ban flights from China so people just flew from China to other EU countries and entered Italy undetected Italy was of the first to close schools so children probably mingled with kids from other schools and had grandparents look after them spreading the virus to the most vulnerable Italy was one of the first to quarantine certain areas so people packed up and left to different parts of the country taking the virus with them Now entire country on lockdown so everyone was queuing up outside supermarkets exposing themselves to the virus further|1 Yes more Lovecraftian Goat Mouse Human Hybrids please|1 Now does Italy have a information suppression culture as well|1 I found someone on Amazon selling one bottle of disinfectant spray for 150 People are such shit sometimes|0 Yes which is why they shouldnt be on a cruise ship|1 Sale lol Free service for a month on Netflix hbo ps now Xbox etc|1 I think theyd be more appreciate of more funding and better pay|1 Id rather be aware and prepared|1 Lets start a gofundme to convince a celebrity to fake becoming critically ill for a bit|0 In a perfect world yes|1 I am on mat leave so yes for me My husband tried working from home today as mandated in the corporate email he received last week and was told by his boss consider yourself quarantined and hung up on him So now Im worried|1 Absolutely frustrating most of these same idiots are going to be dumbfounded and angry when they are sick and the hospitals are to overwhelmed to help anybody|0 I think this is the plan and I think the plan will buckle under outstanding public pressure when the bodies start piling up|1 Italy was one of the first countries to lock down flights from China I remember because Italy lockdown flights from Taiwan as well and there was a huge fuss in Taiwan Italy suspended flights on 131 the very first EU state followed by Cech|1 Pardon my ignorance but how did this whole thing beginmaybe Im confused Oh yeahONE case|0 i may be spreading it but i still have to go places idk what to do about that|0 Dont listen to him This sub has been a magnet for the crazies This measure alone would not crash the housing market|1 This is somewhat comforting at a time when the UKs approach to the virus is really scary I wish I was more confident about where were headed but Ill take hope wherever I can find it|1 Hey honey I think in your case the best thing to do is if you need to leave the house try and stay separate from your elders And try doing some meditation watch the movie power of healing stress can compromise your immune system and increase BP Hang in there keep us updated praying for you and your family also you are already informed I think now you need to try and focus on your family and having a good time keep your spirits up You cant stress about what you have no control over you you might not get it at all Try and check news only once a day for less periods|1 I have no doubt about the raw materials used in the production of the masks But they wont be able to add more production capabilities if they want to build more production lines simply because the crucial equipment that binds the layers together is only made by one German company And they have received overwhelming orders that they cant deliver on time|0 Self isolating seeming a very good plan at this point then if its been circulating that long|1 Lol I cant take it anymore just stop please No more I cant take the retardation|1 Think about that a circoscript environment quarantined where the virus is already spreading is the perfect breeding ground for a mass contagion Yeah the numbers are clearly doctored and it is known that the cases are more but using percentages in this case is NOT the way you do it Mathematic percentages are absolutely based on a formula it is arbitrary and they not take any of the variations in consideration If the number is x in the whole world it does not mean that in every state a fixated number of people are sick We have more cases in the ship because the spreading of the virus is not contained and probably something they take advantage of for proper study finding the people that even in a environment of high risk of taking the virus are sane can improve a study on the subject maybe finding a way to immunize based on their capabilities There are really crazy conspiracies about the CV but with some logic and basic understanding you are gonna unveil the truth and in this case is more scary than the conspiracies themselvesOP I bless you and your family hope everything can lead to a good ending|1 Based upon the fact that he is out and about he was therefore determined to be at minimal risk Lots of questions would be asked I hope he would have answered them honestly He doesnt have a track record for that He would likely be asked to self monitor including taking his temperature once or twice a day and be given instructions on what to do IF he has any symptoms even remotely were to occur including DO NOT GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM but call public health first so they could coordinate with any healthcare facility he might go to He would be at home and asked to limit his interactions with others if there was any concern He would NOT go to the hospital the health department would stay in phone contact daily or some other periodicity based upon determined risk He obviously is considered very low risk and I dont know the criteria With Ebola I had a person lie who would have been high on the risk scale WE have to depend upon the honesty of people This guy would have pissed me off and we would have likely had a long talk with him|0 Whats dangerous is that this is an easy way to further spread the virus around the world arnt flights still coming in and out of HK internationally If so its wild to think Carrie a lamb is currently last bastion of hope to stop containment hahaha|1 And then WHO went for a name so no one would remember this all started in China|0 yes i own a small business i need to make a profit otherwise i would just join the payroll of an existing business and they can deal with shit i also provide a pretty nice benefit package for my employees which are all high schoolcommunity college graduates i dont feel bad about making a profit one bit and would shut it down if i wasnt making a profit|1 Low risk now but the misinformation could prove costly later Not a doomer just trying to view his from his perspective|0 The infected are incubating symptoms whilst silently spreading the virus Once its a little bit bad the level cant be halted|0 not in our district Ive been trying to do this and until its a districtwide policy they wont allow it|0 more protection then not having one N100 is better though|1 Exams cancelled too I wonder what grades my year will receive instead|0 A marked improvement|1 Because people listen to right wing radio and believe outright lies about a pandemic The people I know who are influenced by right wing media are old and in poor health They have people hating a teenager because she is trying to combat climate change Ask them any of them what they think of Greta Thornberg You will shocked at their responses Pretend you are racist and then you will hear their racist opinions come outTrump has a bunch of people controlled by their hate of their fellow man Left wing media is bad as well The media in this country is terrible in general|0 I work in a coffee shop of a very well known franchise I cant see my superiors giving a single fuck until the government forces them to close or enforce whatever measures until then Im just gonna have to face hundreds of people a day and hope for the best because I cannot afford to not work I imagine at least as of today if I attempted to wear a respirator or even a basic medical mask Id probably be chewed out for it in one way or another and told to take it off|1 And jobs really Not a lot of business could handle a complete work stoppage for a month Then you end up with an economic fallout even more severe than what we had 10 years agoEdit really Downvote me for this I owned my own business for 12 years I rarely had more than 2 weeks of cash on hand to cover expenses Business interruption insurance might have covered some of it Now likely If I had to close for a month Id have to just walk away Id be in too much debt to ever make it back Even if I had been able to claw my way back out of such a situation you dont think all my customers would be trying to do the same The economic fallout would be insane|0 I live near Kirkland too and pretty sure I had COVID19 about a month ago and Im mostly recovered with a nagging cough Others are saying the same Some schools are closed and events are being canceled and employers are encouraging working from home where possible All we can hope is that this bug is kept out of senior communities I wonder how unique the US is in that so many of our seniors are clustered together in communities where in other countries and cultures theyre spread out more living with the family|1 Respect Chinas doctors Fuck the CCP who persecuted the doctors who first draw Coronavirus to public attention and who caused things to get out of control in Wuhan in the first place|0 MAGA America First Make mask in USAUSA Cant make enough masks and have to lie to citizens that mask are useless to keep demand pathetically in neturalAlso USA situation getting worseMAGA Lets blame China and call it a day|0 Damn These antibodies earth made are really good Clearing up her lungs already You go Gaia|1 You have a point my attitude about him is in line with what my mother used to say you cant kill shit He wont die even if he gets it although he may kill others spreading it Then he would be insufferable about it BUT looking at my hometown of nyc this thing is set to explode in numbers and deaths He really wont be able to dismiss this anymore in a few weeks And he WILL be held accountable for the lack of action|1 Yeah its a positive demsnd shock Literslly econ 101|1 Its true that we arent anywhere close but I hate these articles have to always find a way to over sensationalize SOMEthing less than 2 weeks ago It was under a week ago but the phrasing is to imply theyve had longer less than a week doesnt sound long enough to complain about it I guess At that point why not just go with less than 4 weeks ago they are all true lolx200BBut yes wtf numbers of tested should be A LOT higher Use the testing methods other countries are already using the CDC shouldnt need to approve tests already approved by the WHO and other top virologists in the world Come back later and say they were wrong if you need to and adjust the numbers which is unlikely to even happen but better than dragging our feet|0 I wish I hadnt seen this 9 hours later because I want people to see the belowWe got a recorded message from the LA County health department that among other info said if you have a fever and cough dont call your doctor unless you start to have breathing difficulties In other words theyre not testing suspect cases unless they become acuteSo how are we supposed to know how widespread this is|1 Make your own hand sanitizer Im just about to myself as I cant find any either Small spray bottle with 3 parts 99rubbing alcohol and 2 parts basic aloe vera gel|1 The cases are not in the camps but in the same province Do you even realise how big are the Chinas provinces Looks like you didnt even read the article youre posting You are spreading misinformation Please do not do that|1 We have to fight back|0 The number of cases confirmed also seems to increase every 3 or so days so this could be an off day That and you know the testing criteria missing a good majority of cases even if they are potentially serious|1 Things like this are really important Find things to laugh about|1 You are correct and I am oversimplifying for the sake of brevity Depreciating value on equipment happens regardless of where it is located And yes for the exact reasons you mentioned is why it hasnt been done yet Though after an event such as this Causing a disruption in the supply chain might get some gears turning to maybe diversify the global supply chain|1 Masks dont protect you from the virus You should only wear them if you possess symptomsEdit Nice getting downvoted for repeating WHOs information|1 1 China made it mandatory to immediately cremate all bodies if infected when died As hard as it is they consider it essential to stopping the spread Are you aware of hospitals in the US having other similar or not postmortem protocols2 How can the general public help support our medical community on the front lines when this inevitably peaks3 Italy is turning away old frail people because standard triage prefers patients who are likely to recover Will something similar apply to the uninsured and the homeless in the US4 China eventually started diagnosing people purely by CAT scan It had better specificity than the RNA tests Are we talking about this at all in the US5 I hope youre well and stay well Were all rooting for people on the front lines Thank you|1 To be fair just about every Dem has at least a public option as part of their platform MFA isnt the only way to provide universal health care|1 Oh go on bash the CCP at least their government doesnt fucking shut down for months when the housewivesI mean politicians gets in an arguementBecause they dont have a democracy and everything is decided by one guy lmao If anyone disagrees with what his ideals are they get fired demoted arrested or even killed I think I would rather have a government shutdown that lasts a few weeks than give a communist tyrant that much power Fucking idiot|0 No they will most likely postpone the surgery In Italy all doctors are now pandemic doctors The surgeons are on the front lines treating patients not doing surgeries Dad is better off staying away from hospitals until this all blows over|0 The Trump admin I guarantee they have not Theyre still in denial But public health officials at state level epidemiologists planners they have They just have to be tapped and their plans put into action The denial could potentially lead to millions more infected It looks like California is already taking its own statelevel actions that are much more than the Fed That is actually good|1 Their economy tanks if the world isnt buying their stuff Its in their best interest to get this virus squashed so the world economy keeps spending money|1 Im sorry for your loss that sounds like a very difficult situation to be in I hope you all stay safe and healthy My heart goes out to you and your family|1 Their comment history indicates Geneva My son goes to school in Davis and Im pretty worried|1 It only kills 999 of germs though|0 Aw man Ive been scrubbing so much my hands are chapped Damn it OK then DealI cant stop laughing I dont know why Im finding this so funny|1 Doesnt really matter at this point If you can stay home then do stay home If you cant then take any and all precautions httpsstaythefuckhomecom|0 He was not aware It was not that serious|1 Its hard to compare due to cultural differences regardless Its like when people argue about how gun control is brilliant in some places In other places complete gun control is Brazil You cant really model yourself after another country unless you are basically that country Too many variables|0 Everyone can have a thousand dollars so long as I get my war|0 httpswww20minchschweiznewsstoryDeutscherZollblockiertContainerfuerdieSchweiz28385897 Laut dem TagesAnzeiger Artikel ist kostenpflichtig droht der deutsche Exportstopp fr medizinisches Schutzmaterial sich nun zum eigentlichen Handelsembargo gegen die Schweiz auszuweiten Der Grund Der deutsche Zoll soll sogar Importe aus Drittstaaten stoppen In Hamburg gebe es demnach mindestens einen Fall wo zurzeit ein Schiffscontainer blockiert wird Wie eine Quelle zum TagesAnzeiger sagt befinden sich im Container Operationshandschuhe die ein Schweizer Importeur direkt in China bestellt hatte Theyre not just banning exports Since Switzerland is landlocked and has no harbors with direct access to oversees markets every import goes through harbors in either germany or the netherlands Technically when a good gets imported from china it never enters german borders since it goes through a bonded warehouses Zollfreilager Germany blocked medical goods from china to switzerland that is currently in such a warehouse That being said it seems like it was all a big mistake and politicians are trying to solve the issue|0 There may be somebody more knowledgeable than me who could follow up on this but my understanding is that in the Northern hemisphere there is something in the summer is on its way comment Its not so much about warmer weather but that with the increase in daylight hours and sunshine that the levels of Vit D increase in turn this helps our immune systems to fight infection|1 Prisons started rioting because visitarions were revoked due to the virus Clearly not the only reason 50 escaped 30 were apprehendedThe virus chaos will be the perfect storm everywhere for lots of other shit happening trying to take advantage of the situation Ugh|0 The hero we need|1 You seem to be assuming my criticism is purely partisan I have no illusions that any other party in power wouldnt be making the same mistakesMy point is that those mistakes have made it worse and increased the incidence of these reallocations that euphemism is bleak as hellTheres no honour in losing a loved one that wouldnt have had to die if our supposedly representative leaders had acted otherwise Theres no avoiding the political and ideological nature of this issue And its frustrating that no one will selfreflect on this after the fact|0 id say play it by ear as you dont have a flight to worry about you have a bit more wiggle room even with hotel reservations theyre usually have friendlier cancellation policies than airlines It may be an obvious yes or no come that time be safe|1 I think a lot of people are going to find out they have some kick ass survival skills they never knew they had|0 Eh I work at a call center which is a pretty well known cess pool for flus and colds just because how close we are and all were getting is still the wash your hands and distance yourselvesIn fact my buddies wife has a fever and has been coughing quite a bit and asked if he should come in and they said yes it will be okay|1 Damn right I aint got no time for shooting people to busy jamming while Rome burns|0 They should be done They refuse to let me use their housing service because of an arrest that never led to a conviction despite the law in my state specifically deeming this illegal Nothing I can do except sue them I guess They are garbage and wont help when I ask|0 City of Toronto employee told my sister theyre locking down tomorrow too She JUST called me Weird timing|0 1 really solid advice and well done|1 I have been saying this for a while There are too damn many of us humans I wish having one or no children was more socially acceptable We insist on reproducing we pressure people to do it looking at you religion and we outcast people who dont want to have kidsIve said it would be better to have a well thought out controlled slow down of the global population I said that would be better than Mother Nature suddenly smacking us down Here we are Population reduction doesnt mean the virus would be fully contained but maybe with a more manageable population size our problems would be more manageable I am disheartened that humans dont seem to have a well thought out plan about anything anymore Everyone tells me technology will save us Where is our technology now What does it matter when a few with incomprehensible wealth are steering the ship|1 They have a very valid concern for their own safety and the safety of their crew Every time they are in one of those flights all passengers US bound are wearing face masks so the crew in effect reset the 14 day clock and should selfquarantine upon returning They also carry that risk home to their families Additionally they are running the risk of being stranded if the city they are flying to goes into lockdown and having to wait for an airforce flight to get them out|1 This is very interesting and informative I wonder which differences if any would be drivers for differences in stopping the spread of disease or moving where the tipping points are as the relate to different hospital systems abilities to handle overcrowding during a crisis|0 Most of yalls comments seem like you are selfjustifying buying out your towns supply of toilet paper and you arent even ashamed|1 outside of the us its hard to win courts like this damage from neglect|0 But see thats just the thing They know from experience that they can fuck up everything fuck up covering up that they fucked up everything and still face not one single consequence|0 and joining this cult is also a good way for some people who want to leave China and settle in US quickly and easily They join the protest overseas stating fake CCP taking organs alive with acted and photoshopped scenes so that they can get protect with asylum Its becoming a easier way than other illegal migration methods like hiding in containers etcIts also easier than going studying abroad and find a proper job to contribute to that society and get legally settled|1 This is where youre supposed to think of the things youd enjoy doing with two healthy weeks to yourself|1 This is how it plays out tends to double every Five days todays events may have spread it up evenHere is a probable timeline for the virus in Nz Hopefully it will not be this bad I have counted current cases as 4 because the Iranian must have caught it from someone else040320 Number of Infected 4080320 Number of Infected 8 was 4130320 Number of Infected 16 was 8180320 Number of Infected 32 was 16230320 Number of Infected 64 was 32280320 Number of Infected 128 was 64020420 Number of Infected 256 was 128070420 Number of Infected 512 was 256120420 Number of Infected 1024 was 512170420 Number of Infected 2048 was 1024220420 Number of Infected 4096 was 2048270420 Number of Infected 8192 was 4096020520 Number of infected 16384 was 8192070520 Number of infected 32768 was 16348120520 Number of infected 65 536 was 32768170520 Number of infected 130076 was 65536220520 Number of infected 260152 was 130076270520 Number of infected 510304 was 260152|0 Im in a really weird health place right now I feel kind of sick Not like oh I cant come in to work sick but eh Im sick enough to call a sick day or two and consider it a mental health day However because of this coronavirus scare Im terrified to call in sick because people may assume the worst So now Im just going to work feeling groggy and like I have a cold while trying to consider if I should just take a sick day|0 Not to say he wouldnt try but the federal government does not have the authority to cancel or postpone the election as far as I am aware That decision would have to be made by the many individual states and they should already have preparedness procedures in place like votebymail or absentee ballots for those in quarantine etc We will see though I could see either side trying to declare an election held in such a manner to be illegitimate but who knows Im trying not to make those grand assumptions until the situation becomes more clear|1 Yes but a protest is a crowd too I hope they take precautions|1 Put another way the risks to overreacting are less than the risks to underreactingBut everyone has an agenda The risks to overreacting are generally economic were not expecting stampede deaths from rushes on masks for example However the risks to underreacting may indeed be human lives lostChoose wisely|0 Yeah measles and whooping cough Both have a r0 over 10 while current estimates of this are anywhere from 2 to 66 Measles is a true airborne disease where say you could be standing in a room which someone with the disease had been in that room even hours before and you could possibly catch it|1 Japans cheating with that cruise ship though|0 This is a lot of great information Im going to follow you Thank you for doing this|1 Thailand seems to be following the China example keep it hidden to avoid damaging the tourist industry|0 You are 100 rightthe west is always only concerned about itself If even one person dies here because of the Virus you will see how crazy and sad reddit and in general the media will get|0 And given the thousands of taxi drivers in bangkok that come in contact with chinese visitors at the airport its quiet scary|0 This dude isnt mostly known for his youtube rather for his instagramHowever the dude violated various laws by breaking in and then breaking outHe will be fined and get jailed for 3 months for that but it aint overBy doing what he did he might be processed for attacking public health which is way worse He risks 3 months of jailtime a fine from 6 months to 3 years for attack on public health and most likely another finePeople who do this shit are dumbfucks who should be jailed for their entire lives imho|0 Annual Flu shots are almost always useless I get it every year and its usually the wrong strain and i end up getting the flu anyways|0 I have a really hard time believing that this is on HERE and not being shared on any news site elsewhereI am sorry but I doubt it|0 Id feel better if their numbers matched John Hopkins Instead they are lower than JH and surprise I trust JH more|1 FFP23 masks and similar ones are fitted properly For hygienic masks and standard surgery masks you should go to the next hospital and look how many there wear them correctly The main idea of those it to catch the big droplets and they do that to a large degree in particular for those from the person wearing it even if you dont fit well or or are worn not 100 correctly What is true is that you need to exchange them often enough when they are wet they dont work anymore|0 My boss and i think the whole corporation is in a similar situation As many gripes as Ive had with my workplace theyve always tried to do whats best fo their employees both on the corporate level and just in my location Our business is nearly dead and my boss and scheduling manager are just trying to ensure everything gets an even and fair split of the hours we have available They both know whos relying on their paychecks the most and they try to accommodateSo really what Im saying is yes some businesses arent doing whats best for their employees but many others are just trying to make sure their employees arent fucked over when rent is due|1 Young people who go to get fucked up on spring break arent normally the kind who give a shit about preventive measures|0 Thank you for the advice best of wishes to you and your baby on the way|1 So very little testing which must mean they are doing something right or other countries like France and the Netherlands something very wrong|0 Who will care|1 YupIf you do not require medical intervention then you are mildIf you require medical intervention to assist your bodys normal functioning like oxygen therapy that would be severeIf you require medical intervention to keep your bodys normal functioning online like intubation then youre criticalWhat I dont like about this spectrum is that theres a big difference between an intubation for breathing and being on ECMO|1 Canadian health leaders are just going to let community spread continue as long as possible in hope asymptomatic heard immunity will stop it it wont work and soon Canada will be in the exact same scenario as italy or worse These people are going to have to pay for what they did in these early days if they survive the way they chose to sacrifice the old and the weak they are personally responsible for the deaths when it comes to light that there were months of community spread being purposefully ignored South Korea can test 10000 a day so could we our leaders are deliberately choosing not to do so|0 Wouldnt surprise me|0 Or maybe humidityMaybe the viral load isnt as great in Washington State because of the weather|0 You need staff trained in the care and use of those ventilators too but the NHS has gradually been whittled away|1 Lol Ok I doubt it but I guess we will see|1 No off topic political comments|0 He better not be inflating those prices|1 My mom bought up these reusable masks idk how well they will work its like made of polyester or some fabric but its pretty thick Anyways I can get why they would be cautious of someone wearing a mask thinking they are infected But at the same time the gloves would throw me as someone who is cautious and honestly its not my place to judge Hell Id wear gloves and shit Screw the people who dont care or are posting that on FB They are just low lives Keep doing what youre doing All I can suggest is wash your hands after wearing the gloves just in case you touch the outside of them Dont want that to be the thing that stands between you getting sick and staying healthy|0 I was teased at work for weeks about my personal prepping I was talked to by my boss about how its low risk and I need to calm down Yesterday the ceo sent out an email banning all domestic and foreign business travel and to prepare for long term teleworking and to stock our homes accordingly Our companys primary domain is risk mitigation Take heed if youre on the fence|0 That only applies until truckers stop driving|0 Damn Quebec is winning this while we have an idiot in ontario|0 Im Kind of suspicuous why THEYRE so prepared and the way that they help and they brag about it seems so idk I dont wanna spread misinformation but i wanna know More about it is it 100 sure that the Chinese dont havy anything to do with it |1 Its not really about the productivity but the image it would give of Salarymen not looking like theyre super busy would look bad for the company|0 I mean you really should have never stopped Dont listen to the government agencies that are attempting to downplay this Theyre attempting to prevent panic as panic can be worse then the virus itself|0 Honestly I kind of wonder if it wouldnt be better for all the at risk categories to be the ones that social distance and quarantine since the healthy population overall seems to have very little adverse effects Its a lot easier to maintain those populations rather than everyone else The only stick in the wheel is that many of the healthy people will continue to interact with at risk populations despite being told not to|1 Thanks for your concern but Im in Croatia and been talking to him online via messenger D|1 This was the perfect article to send to friends and family thanks|1 Different standards of care between Italy and China Though 40 of hospitalized patients required oxygen therapy in China according to the New England medical journal|1 The plan according to Hubei Health Commission is to close the cubicle hospitals one by one and then restore regular operations at actual hospitals gradually|1 I was held at gun point in front of Walmart I told the kid to get a job still got all the money taken from meIts a small sample seize but they wont listen in some instances|0 Thank you EBSCO Thank you|1 Its seriously SO interesting Makes me want to consider becoming a microbiologist even But I imagine it involves a bunch of math which Im terrible at lol|1 Yes Ive been thinking the same|1 Maybe well learn to learn from secondhand experience instead of criticizing other people who are suffering|0 were there calls to shut down any other big festivals around that time|1 Be safe|1 It still wont fix the problem people will still come to our beaches and then fill up restaurants They need to close the beaches so tourists stop coming here and force restaurants to go to take outdelivery only I dont know why theyre taking baby steps during a pandemic in a state full of tourists|0 You dont catch morbid obesity like a virus But as a process it can develop rapidly depending on their mental state especially if the person is very stressed And since you mention neighbors I should add you may not catch obesity or diabetes but you could be negatively affected healthwise if your environment doesnt provide factors that can prevent or help against said health issues In public health studies research has confirmed the trend of wealth is equals to health by comparing zip codes neighborhood More affluent neighborhoods had a healthier population compared to the less affluent neighborhoods and that the poorer the neighborhood the worse the general health of the population was Honestly research isnt really needed to confirm this because if you just compare the neighborhoods you can see it how far is the grocery store The restaurants What sort of produce are offered How are the roads Air quality Any recreational parks EtcBtw I mean no disrespect and am just typing to sort of raise awareness of the problems in our own land One of my close friends is a pediatrician and was reading on some public health papers and shared it with me and I thought that itd be nice to share this at least once on Reddit lol|1 I am sure he promptly tried to get gvt contracts on masks and sanitizer for any buddies of him|1 I think people like you are more valuable to the world than you realize because you are willing to sacrifice your wellbeing for others People like you are the peace makers the care givers the people who share with those who have less It is easier to take than it is to give People like you make the world kinder and caring and a little bit better for others Dont discount your worth|1 YOU HAD A FUCKING SOCCER GAME WITH 40K PEOPLE ON SUNDAY Jesus fuck|0 High risk are the first to go the young and healthy will fall later|1 I wonder what theyre actually going to do for Canadians whose work is affected by COVID and how they will make it work Hopefully they will start by waiving student loan payments which effectively costs them nothing to do but eases the burden for many people|1 A huge percent of people cant afford to just stay home for several weeks|1 But everyone has an agenda The risks to overreacting are generally economic were not expecting stampede deaths from rushes on masks for example However the risks to underreacting may indeed be human lives lostI wouldnt downplay the effect that a hit to an economy can have on a community or nation The effects may not be as immediate or as inyourface as deaths from a virus but that almost makes them more insidious in some waysThis is a dramatic example but in the USA Canada and the UK the housing market collapse is thought to be the main driving force of an estimated 10000 more suicides committed for financial reasons compared to 2007 This is deaths not attempts This is far from the only problem Many suspect that at least part of the opioid crisis that we have seen in recent years in the US and many other parts of the world are waves from this financial collapse When an economy tanks so does government investment in social programs for things like mental health and even the essentials like housing and food The list goes on an on Im not saying that panic could cause anything close to the housing bubble Just trying to say that economics is a lot more than people racing to get N95 masks|0 I live here too I work by the confirmed Corona resident homeBeen having weird symptoms 3 days light headed headache and next 3 days a low grade feverdry coughsore throat I had no sneezing or congestion throughout this Yesterday my chest and throat was burning I could barely breathe Called advice nurse they said to go into urgent care Dr just did routine check and no testing and said you have a virus take some ibuprofen for the inflammation me no shit sherlock Luckily Ive been able to work from home and not expose anyone|0 Thats so odd that doctors Ive spoken to who attend WHO AND CDC conferences disagree with you as a common symptom of younger persons Thank God a random redditor put me at ease You and Pence are keeping my blood pressure in check s|0 Whats outrageous about thinking that they would follow the guidelines they discussed during this exercise Like if there was a fire would it be tinfoil hat that a company follows the fire drill protocol It was the exact point of conducting the simulation but you pointing fingers and calling names is really helpful in ZERO capacity so good luck|1 Violence or civil unrest but if you are promoting fake online news that can get people killed it should be regulated In the United States we are having the problem with Facebook and Fox news People actually believe things like if the Senate acquitts Trump he can run for a third term Also in the United Statea we just allow corporations to decide what speech is acceptable on social media And we may not be cowards but the misinformation campaigns lead to things like anti vaccination movements and pseudoscience like GOOP Measles are a thing again in the United States because we are so brave|1 Makes me think about one of the most unhygienic things out there shopping carts Everyone touches them with their dirty hands and when do they ever get cleaned|0 This is stupidity on a whole new level way above anything a human being able to comprehend|0 Just for reference IIRC the first test results from Diamond Princess reported on Japanese news TBS was 10 positive out of 31 test results Small sample size but yeah it may well be worse if no more active measure is taken|1 So they are doing a piss poor job of containing it on a single ship Im sure they will do a splendid job in an entire country s|1 Your assertion is that patients cant escape medical quarantines in the US because MERICA|0 Thank you Really appreciate it|1 ITT orange fans mad|0 Laughs nervously in third world country|1 Whats the problem with just supplying them with food and a few doctors and waiting for it to burn out Isnt that what weve done with quarantine ships for millenia|0 Bat sushi is hard to give up probably|0 Im not worried about me getting sick Im worried if my parents do which is why Ive told them not to pick me up from the airport and Im quarantining myself for at least two weeks when I get back Ive been told the healthcare in valencia sucks I have very good insurance back in america because luckily my parents can afford it And even if I didnt they can afford out of pocket costs I was panicked because Id be quarantined in an apartment all alone because everyone that Ive talked to who lives there theyre all leaving Everyone from school is going back home even a lot of the teachers Ive heard are going back to their families because theyve been fired I love this city and I dont want to leave but what made this place amazing were all the friends Ive made I dont know enough spanish I think to really make spanish friends and regardless the area I live in is very international and most of them spoke english but now I guess everyones going home Ive had a history with suicide attempts when my parents used to force me to stay in my room with no contact with friends and no electronics for weeks on end during school breaks when I was younger and Im worried how my mental health will deteriorate if I stay by myself|1 And were still not voting for the guy trying to give us free healthcare|1 Time is the best teacher|1 I live here too lol|1 Typical CCP propaganda|0 Lets not forget that the 2 death rate is of you get the best care Its 10 in Iran likely more in Africa since they have alot of people suffering from immune suppressing diseases|1 The virus isnt targeting any group its just older people tend to have compromised immune systems or pre existing conditions that make it harder to fight off its not like it can mutate to target young people specifically|0 Yes Almost all American companies have their bylaws written in such a way that the CEO is basically paid to keep the share price up every quarter With such cheap debt for the past x years companies have been taking it on and buying back shares using cheap money This makes the stock artificially inflated and CEOs performance artifically good Of course the gamble is always that you can make more money than it costs to service the debt|1 dammit thats good|1 Short for lazy peopleCorona CANT be fully wiped from the planet it will be just another virus like the Influenza which will do what nature offers Cause sickness and death but times xX 5 10 times worseOnly real solution is a draconic measurement beyond OUR imagination Example FULL quarantine lockdown with military support2nd solution is a 0 tolerance anti vax policy in which the Majority MUST be vacinated without any exception because we fail to wipe the flu on a 10 vax rate alreadyPS I didnt even talk about mutation and the fact that we would need a vaccine each year like we need for the flu lol|0 But thats essentially the same thing with every other disease Do you worry about not infecting your grandpas regularly or just now When its time to go its time to go its natureBy your thought people would be suing others because they gave them the flu accidentally killing their grandparents Its ludicrous to even bring that point|0 Indeed indeed I didnt go into the numbers with that as it is possible that were missing milder cases of the virus so the mortality rate is potentially skewed If youve got links to share for those sources and would be willing to I think itd be a great resource for folks to have But I agree it is more deadly especially since it can infect more so has the chance to potentially harm more Especially if the true mortality rate is at or above some of the current estimates Thanks so much for pointing that out Also hope its cool but I edited the post to direct people to read the numbers you shared If not let me know and Ill remove that plug|1 Thats why some starts are now cracking down on restaurants and bars and suchSeems like for every hospitalized person theres another 100 who either have no symptoms or just felt a little funny for a few days If they did get really sick and went to the doctor they had a flu test And if it was negative the doctor shrugged and sent them home without instructions for isolation In the meantime they infected another hundred people|0 Im working on a source as I saw that stated on reddit and cant locate it now What is weird is how the info on WUHAN seems to have dried up Spoted a subtle reference to it in the Economist that might workget I tomorrow|0 Thats a very good point and one I will point out if she does try anything|1 I am asian myself and it was in jest just as the rest of the context was in jest People were making jokes and then this one person didnt get the joke and took it as serious So someone responded and tried to explain it Then I said asians go figure because asians tend to take things seriously Thats all I did|0 My whole company is WFH for all of March now My wife works at the same company This means we are going to be together 247 for a months Pray for my life|1 I understand better late than never but as a man in his earlymid twenties I cannot fucking wait until this closeminded unintelligent toxic ideology of subjective reasoning gets thrown out the window more or less Thats one of the most important things on my bucket list I hope to see the world become more objective before I die|0 You just need to walk around the room and show them before the test right It would be trivial to hide something Or you could accidentally unplug the webcam for a few seconds If youre fast enough they might not even notice or would attribute it to network issues|0 Old men for no country|0 Never thought Id say this but Ted Cruz you just earned my respect|1 Its not as contaigous as measels wow reeeaally reassuringThose people really dont know how contagious measles is I guess I mean saying Its not as contagious as the most contagious disease currently known to mankind is hardly reassuring|1 Dude you guys have done like 30 something test|1 Where do you possibly think they would be able to quarantine 3700 people If this were their home country most of them would be in home quarantine but since its not there is nowhere else but the ship No quarantine facilities are anywhere near big enough|0 My daughter is one too while going to school and that company has been great to her|1 Dude is obviously a wealthy stock investor that never times the market|1 If true then Justin still doesnt get it And if thats true things will only get worse httpsstaythefuckhomecom|1 Although I completely agree that it is logical to compare deaths to recoveries it is also important to understand that it is believed that many cases go unnoticedunconfirmed This could potentially bring down the calculated death rate significantly|0 Neither side seems to give a fuck Our country may be very partisan but the one thing thats bipartisan is their bullshit|0 Right I totally agree Just because your political leaders policies or the lack of has ruined your life or put the country on a tailspin to hell or endangered millions needlessly or led to wars and much death doesnt mean they deserve to be killed by a time traveler when they were still babies|0 You can also make it a good deed Write the expiration date in large marker pen on items and donate them to charitable organization just prior to expiration date You protection is free |1 I did not know that Well hopefully this is the Diamond Princess then|1 its shocking how hard it is to get tested It means we are in very bad shape We dont know how bad it is like we literally have no idea we can guess but without ample testing we should assume at least 10k people have it maybe 10 times that|0 Except the government wouldnt necessarily be incentivized to deprive policy holders from necessary treatment with the endgoal of maximum profits Although with our current political landscape whats to even stop the right from redirecting healthcare funds to fucking build a dome over America or start a war with Antarctic penguins|0 I will not use the word fools to label them Fools are the ppl who do stupid things without knowing itEvils are who do these bad things intentionallyThey are evils instead of fools|0 Hahaha yea dont forget he s an expert he can see the corona virus particles With his Superman xray vision he has determined everyone is fine Cant beat that|1 Who wants to join a protest full of sick people|0 thank you |1 Oddly enough the two go hand in hand|1 How exactly do you think testing works How should Germany magically make the capacity and infrastructure to test everyone within days appear I think you are comparing Germany to an impossible high standard Which country that is not a dictatorship are you exactly comparing it to We should focus on testing the high risk groups first while expanding the testing capabilities which is exactly what is happening|0 Theyre building literal mass graves|0 I think Diamond Princess will be the best small scale exampleJapan is exceptional at process managementHi Pop confined space Shared ResourcesHonest DocumentationLast I checked theyre almost 5050 with tested 400 vs infected 200Id make a wager that the quarantine end date of 219 will be extended If it is were globally fucked because of incubation period If they arent released the methodology weve been using is materially fuckedIf they are all released the methodology weve been using is at least materially correct|1 Yep Trade Descriptions act 1968 would characterise different prices from those marked on packets as a False trade description httpwwwlegislationgovukukpga196829|1 youre literally retarded|0 The absolute mad man|0 Yeah COVID19 is going to go through the Fox News watching elderly of Florida like Trump through a teenagers dressing room Not gonna be good|1 Well fuck me been taking ibuprofen for a cold for days|0 News flash there is no low risk exposure|0 This is good|1 Yay another anarchist Im pretty much secretly anarchist as well anarchopacifist I dont want to get too political as we cant really talk politics here Just wanted to say that youre not alone and a lot of people think government is fundamentally oppressive even if they dont come out and say itWishing the best to people enduring this soon to be pandemic Governments prioritize corporations and the rich over the common human or the environment that sustains us so we have to help each other as far as we are able Both in this crisis and in everyday life to follow Mutual aid|1 damn yall putin crashed our economy that shit sucks|0 So how far away are we from the worst case|0 A great man The doctors in Hong Kong could take a leaf from his book because theyre threatening to strike|1 Suns gonna be a super bro and UV blast us to stop the little COVID19 bugger|1 Heres a related video sourcing bits of evidence on Chinese citizen being burned alive and sent to the crematorium the video is 3 days ago and the person who been uploading these video get underrated for what he post since WHO been working with google to control information being spread around and put automatic tags on video with the word corona virus in it Video httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvEt5cUowd25ohttpswwwyoutubecomwatchvEt5cUowd25o|1 We need to take a few months to make sure these tests are safe Wouldnt want a bunch of people to get sick would we FDA|1 People are twisting his words to justify this being like the normal flu its almost like they refused to watch his other videos or even the other 95 of that same video from today|1 I am neither Democrat or Republican but the idea of a businessman being a better politician than a politician is playing out before our eyes|1 Octopussy could handle the virus with ease|1 So it takes a pandemic before people will start eating fruits and veggies like they should|1 China doesnt care about disabled people Its different over there When I was in China with my relatives there were zero handicap accessibility in mind for the buildings We has strollers so thats why it was so noticeable to me Like literally every store had three steps into it and no ramp Also I didnt see a single disabled person at all Where did all their disabled people go I wonder Edit I want to clarify that China is a big place and I didnt go to every place in China so some places may be better about accessibility|1 Is there raw files anywhere Id love to create some modelsEdit Got it below NVM|1 Actually im not a native speaker of English i have no idea how it is usually said haha|1 People will goto ER people in this country always goto ER primary doctors who are aware of the situation are stopping seeing these patients and advising them goto ERThis is getting more pathetic by the day how US squandered valuable 2 months and did nothing is just beyond me|0 Covid19 does seem to be in the sweet spot of long enough incubation and large enough CFR to do maximum damage|0 Im pretty sure they consider dying of COVID19 to be assaulting a police officer enjoy your felony|1 After all this they should be granted with a lifetime salary|1 Except it wont Young people will live older people will die Hate to say it but this could be economically and socially good in the long run A bunch of pensioners dying saves money Not only has it exposed overrealiance on China but its exposed how unprepared our struggling health service is|0 SURPRISE|1 Yeah Im watching the news like a hawk now I hope the wedding goes well maybe avoid hugs just in case|1 Same Ive been trying to warn people to get it together yet they often think its overblown I guess theyll see the truth soon enough Heres an upvote for yr hope positivity|1 Can people stop using streamable Fuck sake why do I need to click the play button 3 times to watch a video|0 The orginal report said after Chinas CDC received genome results from commercial labs on Dec 31 and realized what it could be it was classified as a potentially dangerous pathogen and per pathogen handling regulations all samples at uncertified labs must be destroyed or shipped via secure containers to certified national labs and all pathogen information must be centrally analyzed by the certified labs 7 days later on Jan 7 the national lab uploaded the full genome to an international databaseThis is the cover up BBC and NYP refers to the part where commercial labs were banned from playing with COVID19In other words propaganda that takes advantage of your inability to read the source material|0 My guess is it would be make things worse to be honest No oneway values or filters with aerosolized particles getting trapped in the bottle Constantly rebreathing dirty air May work as a shield for a bit but long term my guess is it makes things worse|0 Youre being reactionary and emotional The scientific advice is to keep kids in school|1 The more common surgical masks can be helpful for sick people as they do contain coughs and sneezesIve read that most coronaviruses are too small to be filtered out by surgical masks in terms of microns Is this true|1 This Its more like You might recover but hey guess what Youre now in your early 20s with lifelong reduced lung capacity die to scarring possible sterility possible nervous system issues Theyre acting like the possible lifelong ramifications dont apply to them and its just stupid|0 Ok I see Since you commented on my post I thought your message was in the context of youd rather listen to doctors about the doom n gloom Taken in that context I think my reply of Dr Drew makes sense|0 Well if youre keen PM me Ill package up the cleaned data and a few analysis cells then well work out a transfer protocol|1 Im skinny and have no body hair But you described how it works|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 The mask is not going to do you any good The gloves I can see but make sure you still wash your hands with soap|1 Im pretty intent on forcing them to be shut ins if it appears near us Ive stocked up on supplies and have given them a new supply of hand sanitizer and Clorox disinfecting wipes My biggest fear is just it appearing in our community without us being aware of it since people can be contagious but asymptomatic|1 I went to my boots in the Westfield where I work today The member of staff there said theres a que of 50 people at 830 in the morning for hand sanitiser|1 Should have done this ages agoThey were just letting passengers walk through NZ airport yesterday lmao|1 Thank you|1 But then Josh Kushner wouldnt be able to exploit this for profit Karlie Kloss needs new shoes and a few jets|1 At a school here school the principal monitorized one of the bathrooms in 2 hours no one washed their hands|0 Those facts are NOT very fun|0 You do realise were only super wealthy at this point because China buys most of the resources we mine correct I mean yes we have an agricultural industry as well but its nowhere near as big and the only other export we have is hot hollywood actors which by definition only America snatches up|1 Were about to get a crash course in why Medicare for all is a good idea here in America It looks like it might be up to the states Gov Cuomo of NY just made sure that anyone with Medicare didnt have to pay copay and is making insurance companies pay for tests etc If youre uninsured honestly it looks like youre screwed For now at least More governors need to act Its obvious the federal government is incompetent|1 Very good point that mitigates the cataclysmic implications of this data Its really really bad but would be way worse if that meant 17 of all true cases ended up in hospitals|0 Be Civil applies to racism sexism personal attacks and clear fear mongering It does not apply to general swearing attacks on governments and institutions and speculationIf you see a comment or post that breaks the rules report it Dont come up with an uncivil response If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|0 We are the first ones calling him the Phoo it was a joke then he took it way too serious Two years ago we were saying ws should shave his nephews hair during Chinese New Year Ah good old days|1 The rest of China is preparing to restart though This is why we need to act now and end up like the rest of China rather than Hubei|1 Not enough Shut down auto manufacturing Im in an office of 100 people right now All in close communication with one anotherThousands of people on assembly line in close quarters Its as if we dont matter in this When will they shut us down When there are 1000 cases10000 cases So ridiculous and my company will run this thing until the last possible second|0 Scenario 4 OP dies doesnt have to live with the pain of his loved ones suffering and his friend gets to keep his 100 Hurray|1 It is unbelievably unlikely that China knew about it until it was already widespread because nobody knew the virus existed at all We are in a completely different situation This model is useless|0 Possibly but this seems more to do with the large testing facility they built which went operational today The amount of suspected cases also dropped by a massive amount which indicates they were able to test those people|0 I know and I kinda agree with you Im just clarifying why Dr John reported what he reported He definitely could have clarified that the authorities still consider droplet transmission the main form of transmission But this does not change the fact that Chinese authorities updated their guidelines to recognize aerosol transmission even if its just a lowish possibility I dont think he deserved to be accused of having reported misinformation for reporting official Chinese guidelines |0 Please explain how logistically you can quarantine New York|1 Everyone started stocking up rice toilet paper and other nonperisable food items last month in Hong Kong Had a time where I walked down to the nearby supermarket to see all the canned food shelves toilet paper shelves and instant noodle shelves empty There were rumors on whatsapp a message app we use frequently facebook and everywhere that the import of rice would get shut off People bought as much as they could carry for example rice they would buy 25 kg packs instead of the usual 8kg Images of people queuing up for the cashier with huge piles of toilet paper homes with stacks of rice packs and toilet paperhttpshkoncccntnews20200216photobkn2020021611561940702160082200101pjpg20200216200536 empty supermarket shelves for ricehttpscdnhk01comdimediaimages3963808orge25c6d05eaffb0e503bd06c8372b0e15jpgySqJ0IU01l19pXfwp8uKZVNqkEvy96sOnynGw58pxsMvw1280r169 and similar scenes I believe its the mentality that people fear they wont be able to leave their homes to buy food on a regular basis and as a result started to stockpile food in their homes Hell some even started bragging their stockpiles on some local online forums link in chinesehttpslihkgcomthread1874917page1|0 If you find someone making that distinction with any kind of authority please let me know Ive been looking for the same information|1 Yeah my two 30 year old friends just flew to Japan cause they didnt want to eat their flight cost its everybody|1 If thats 60 statistic is correct then that would make the WHOs 36 mortality rate somewhere closer to 15 were those cases counted though that may not be correct as the 36 statistic from the WHO may already incorporate some of this uncertainty|0 Use a bandanna or scarf Its still a lot more effective than not using anything at all|1 Exactly This is going to just promote lying and hiding Then difficulty in tracing|0 Any democracy supporters able to defend this system|1 Yeah I suppose the fall 2020 flu season will be a bit more diverse than in the recent past As the northern hemisphere moves into spring and summer this virus will wane When it comes back we may not have a vaccine ready and it will get tense again|0 cute suit OP|1 Sars burned itself out and wasnt profitable to create a vaccine|0 Speaking of Orlando lets not forget DisneyWorld Estimated 50k for Magic Kingdom alone every single day Let alone all the other parks Employees there must be shitting themselves|0 yes they dont think like we do For us we see a lockdown and want to find a way for everyone to break it For them they want to be the only ones to break it because that increases their chances of not getting caught The mentallity is personal gain at any cost screw if it hurts others|1 You dont seem to understand how seriously any sensible government should take a virus that kills 2 of its victims and spreads like the common cold They reacted as soon as it was clear that they were dealing with something that if left unchecked could kill millions of people in China|0 Knowing how New Yorkers are they would probably tell the virus to just fuck off|0 1 Normalized the data up to 127 too noisy Rate of change was 60 ddWhich by the way that is what appears others are starting with IMO not reasonable see belowAssumption made was ground data initial which was sporadic and not organizedIf someone took the first 57 days 116123 they would have been R0 2530 and they were 38 dropped to 26 post that week httpstwittercomDrEricDingstatus12211325733400616972 I calculated standard trend 126 utilizing daily the last 2 data points3 Took a stdDev from trend on data points which revealed trend was stable enough 2 daysNote We are only 6 days into a reasonable trendpattern4 Plotted the actual Confirmed cases against Trend then against R0 estimations confirmed1x5 Current data today says R0 13 is high side of trend and 2 variance of Actual ConfirmedI am not forecasting R0 just mapping the data based upon what we know today and I know these are low numbers That said even if the data was off 20 likely the R0 would read out at 15 actual Not the 38 26 estimations based upon initial datachaos Again i can factor in a 20 error and stay within 15OpinionThe Actual Confirmed data would have to be 50 off to hit 20 Thats not to say it wont hit 2x but I cant subscribe yet to a R0 of 2x as the following is occurring Contact rate is slowing Infection Period by 214 if not sooner should go down assuming we have real numbers causing stabilizationreduction of trend confirmed cases additionally transportation bans and closures will assist in this reduction greatlyNote need to update site with graph i did find a calc error |0 Clarn is straight garbage|1 Irelands first case was around 1213 yo and Im pretty sure hed need at least symptoms to be identified|1 Not sure how that could happen|0 I meanif China didnt hide cases theres a pretty good chance other countries wouldnt have to do anything Because it would have been contained quicker But go off|1 This is so me If I stay off reddit I feel like Im ok But then I literally just spent 3 hours reading through articles and comments and am like there goes my saturday and now I feel like were all gonna dieLater tonight when Im watching bad Roku Channel 90s sitcoms playing computer games and snuggling with my cat Ill think theres nothing to worry about|1 I find just spending some time outdoors surrounded by nature is really nice even if its just walking around looking at trees or looking for butterflies|1 No You cant take into account something that you dont know about unless you guess Im making the assumption that a case is defined as a known case for the purpose of CFR calculations If you were carrying the flu virus for example but suffered no symptoms would you say that you have the flu|0 The problem with CPAP is that viruscontaminated air will get sprayed around|0 have you used the first leg and just want to change the second leg Thats the reason AC refuse to change|0 Based on scientific studies see The Lancet info from WHO 20 of people will have severe symptoms Of this a portion will require ventilation Its a sizeable number Unimaginable I agree And can be altered with containment mitigation and social distancing So lets hope the worst case scenario does not occur|0 Its 484 on world o meter as of a few minutes ago They typically cite sources as well|1 Well put it on the table and let it simmer|1 If you want to make a couple bucks while most jobs are down check with your local supermarkets They are likely hiring extra extra staff Id go and apply but Ive been dealing with a sinus infection as all my friends tell methat they also started developing a couple days after hanging out |1 Pull them out Proactive not reactive The whole country is going to see what we do in 2 weeks so dont worry about beurocratic bullshit right now|1 I would be reluctant to believe the Chinese governments official figures China had to weld people into apartments to stop the spread|0 Lmao half I sell cellphones for a living so I deal with all types of people I would say about 90 of the population is just oblivious lazy and just cant do for themselves|1 Please provide me a source I cant seem to find one|1 Nope but theres a lot of pain in the auto industry in general This is going to be one of the drivers of the coming recessiondepression That and real estate|0 Thanks for the update As someone based thousand of miles away it is not always possible to identify sensationalist headlines from facts I will update the post now Cheers|1 Yeah I agree first case confirmed was on 4th 10 days ago Cant really expect closures of malls and restaurants without any actually sick people|1 Can relate in a wayOur motherin law was visiting us from China recently went back early Jan During early December wed already picked up some news about 10 people catching a weird lung virus in Wuhan At that time only a couple of English outlets reported on it out of interest I googled a bit for it back then I could recover the articles from my browser history but hard to find with a Google search now since corona and pneumonia give back too much recent pagesAnyway skip forward a month and now were all worried motherinlaw is back We have family in Hunan Beijing and sadly Wuhan as well a city we have some very fond memories with Weve heard lunar new year is definitely not the same this year Fatherinlaw has warned against posting in WeChat spreading rumors even whilst being very objective and just warning them to be safe Me and my wife are in Europe and tried looking online at our typical pharmaceutical shops to get some masks to send over Conclusion good masks sold out in Europe Edit with good I mean that I see so many people with surgical masks which is not good enoughTheres one thing were thankful for and thats us bringing 20 N99 masks to China in 2017 Our family members never used them tucked it into a cupboard but weve urged them to use them now when they go outside Meanwhile were shipping a new batch ultimately found online but might take a while to arrive protective goggles Its relatively costly but better safe than sorry I feel were keeping a set for ourselves here as wellHowever let me be clear speaking from where we are outside of China I dont think theres a reason to panic But on the other hand I know for a fact a lot of trouble could have been avoided if the local Wuhan admin jumped into the pond quicker We were aware of this from about early December that something weird was going on And given our history with the city its not the first time we see local politicians fucking it up over there Wuhan could easily be a tripleA city next to Shanghai or Beijing The only good to come out from this is that the central bureau will focus its sight closely on the administration there for the next couple of yearsMy wish is this blows over soon and my family can rest easy On the other hand the moment the first case is confirmed in my country Im wearing that mask on the train Im teaching to 100s of students I dont want to risk it|1 We are all worried about the economy I see it as the primary risk as a result of this situation I mean that is the real killer not coronavirus In situations like this if you dont think in big numbers you risk higher damage|0 I called today to get tested in Portland OR and they said not unless youre hospitalized Cant even get a private test paying cash out of pocket labcorp will only accept samples from medical providers and mine wont order the test unless youre hospitalized Woke up with respiratory problems been up in Seattle boss flew to NYC last week and he and his daughter are sick I even went to a ToolhttpsiimgurcomPJl24KUjpg concert 2 days ago being a dumbass|0 Is your government hiding actual numbers of infectedBecause these is confession video from Wuhan doctor on YouTube claiming there is approx 90000 people infected in only Wuhan Give us your incites please|0 Lol shh|1 Based on the value of my last 5star hotel stay in Bali if that test is 73k then about 72750 is lining the pockets of some corrupt asshles|1 Been a doctor for 34 years of direct patient practice the bulk in surgery And I am not doing surgery walking in a store As I said unless you are changing gloves out at every encounter gloves do no more for you than hand hygiene All you have to do is watch a food service worker in gloves go from cash to food to know people with gloves untrained are contamination centers If everyone washed their hands we would be goodPersonally I only touch items other people could have touched using hand sanitizing wipes I wash all items coming into my house vegetable canned frozen goods boxes meats etc Or use an approved tuberculocidal spray if not soap washable As a long time protocolDo you ou see who shops Their having on gloves means nothing They are equivalent of skin If you have enough gloves to be in the real world and can change with every encounter I would find that hard to believe Most glove work is to protect me from patients and me to protect patients from cross contamination from other patients Change out at every encounter or within one encounter additionally Surgery unless working on an infective patient is primarily saving the patient from me I am getting ready to leave today for a 6 flight trip that I tried to postpone but cannot I will be wearing a N95 on every flight changed out for each oneI will sanitize my seating and environment with appropriate chemistry I will sanitize the toilet at every use I will sanitize my hands frequently I will not be wearing gloves|1 Nah I knew you werent like trying to nuke the US but its a trigger word for the bot so I have to remove it if used in that context If you would have written the comment like your reply where it clarified i can leave it Please dont take it personal rules are rules|0 Thats the point really these people are not stupid Stop thinking they are idiots these are ALL carefully calculated decisions|1 Bullshit This virus can kill tens of millions People like you underestimating this are the problem Not the people buying water and canned goods|0 id agree with you but its worth remembering that hospital workers are around a lot of sick people with high viral loads if a hospital worker gets sick they then risk passing it on to other people and then they cant work you could look at it like they are the frontline soldiers wearing full battle gear because they are fighting an enemy with heavy artillery the average man on the street may well come into contact with someone with a gun but that doesnt mean he needs full battle gear|0 That I dont know Its possible we could keep up with practice and volunteering However it would be easier for us to help during a lockdown As our practices will be shut and only emergency services only|1 Your childhood exposure determines your lifelong immunity Your adult health and habits determine how well you can exercise it We dont have all the same protection so it would be courtesy for the coughersneezers in public to wear masks|1 You just cant test everyone People would get tested for having a running nose Its flu season The only smart thing to do is staying home when feeling sick If there are indicators which makes it likely they will test The capacity is limited and we need to use the resources rational Also I personally think that Europe has that many cases because they do test that much Just test 100 people with flu 10 might have Corona instead of flu|0 No personally I cant say Im too worried about his wellbeing either but I expect a lot people here to actively hope for his death thats all|0 I agree I also think there are likely many more cases a few thousand maybe then being reported simply because like you stated they are not testing or which is likely the largest number a lot of people dont think they have anything wrong with them|1 Not to be boring but after following China for a long time this is basically what they have been doing every single day for the past few decades|1 Also late 20s female living alone and my anxiety really isnt helping anything but Im trying to do this mroe and moreIf you or OP ever need anyone to talk to feel free to message I know this is so shit at the moment and its so easy to feel lonely Welp|0 I just feel like numbers are down because everyone was in quarantine Not sure what the world is gonna look like when you can only go to work and straight back to your home Hope a vaccine is created soon|1 Not a chance he has enough money like any elite to afford private healthcare in the worldwide clinic of his choice|1 Trump is at least trying to push for financial help in the wake of this outbreak Tax cuts and paid time off|1 define free government I think you mean free yet actually not really Murica is as controlled and militant as it gets they just dress it up as democracy but it really is not|1 Its official we found the nCov2019 version of Jude Law So much fake numbers exaggerations in there overuse of punctuationcapscolors to keep you hooked all so he can sell you overpriced masks through an affiliate link And there are morons like you who believe him Why am I not surprisedI bet hes making a ton of money too|0 httpsforeignpolicycom20200131coronaviruschinatrumpunitedstatespublichealthemergencyresponse He did this back in 2018 because of his determined and absolute hatred for Obama He swore to undo everything Obama has done and he just shot himself in the foot Congratulations you just played yourself|1 In my area schools were closed the moment a parent or student was confirmed to be infected The fact that test kits are in low supply and the virus can be transmitted without symptoms ie no coughing means that the true number of confirmed cases could be far higher According to China only 23 of infections were under the age of 19 I cant find the link confirming the number Here is a link to FAQs from the CDC outlining what the current assumptions about pediatric cases are That doesnt necessarily mean they are less likely to become infected It could mean that younger people dont ever show the symptoms but can still transmit the disease All signs point to this impacting the elderly far more severely than anyone else|0 I think governments all over the world would have better prepared if they had thought the virus was intentionally released Pardon my grammar|1 First I hope the best for you all Thanks for doing this What was the order and timeline of symptom onset for each of you Were you able to get tested Where are you|1 Check back on her when she cant get a hospital bed Ignorance kills|0 Sigh now all we can is to do our part and try to prevent ourselves from being infected to prevent overloading the health system|0 I feel like Im witnessing the beginning of a Stephen King novel|1 Please be civil and respectful Insulting other users racism and low effort toxicity are not allowed in comments or posts|0 Sky Not saying yet Figures technically release on govuk website at 2pm Sky sent out a text alert nearly an hour ago but early |1 I think that the panic runs on toilet paper bottled water and hand sanitizer is really showing that article isnt true to actual human behaviorTake my city for example A Costco in a small satellite community of one of the biggest cities in the country ran out of toilet paper in 20 minutes on a Saturday morning when only 2 cases exist in the larger community This is according to an employee of the store|0 Youll get a nice bill that you can pay|1 Its so sad People are their own worst enemies|0 The Ministry of Public Health found the first strains of a new strain of the corona virus infected in the country as a taxi driver Expected to be infected by Chinese passengersDr Sukhum Kanchanaphimai Permanent Secretary Ministry of Public Health Press release today 31 January that the results of laboratory tests showed that 5 more coronaviruses are Chinese 4 Chinese and 1 Thai totaling 19 infected at this timeThai people who are new infected are men Having a career as a taxi driver without a history traveling to Wuhan China therefore concludes that this is the first case of an infection in the countryCountries with local transmission reports are Germany the United States of America Japan and VietnamDr Thanarak Springphat said that after the illness The taxi driver immediately stopped working The general public who uses taxi services therefore does not have to worry about getting infected by an infected taxi driver or notThe first priority is to follow up with the taxi driver after he gets sick The investigation found that there are 13 people all of whom have gone through the entire process of testing Which all have negative effects But doctors continue to monitor the symptoms during the surveillance phase Dr Thanarak said|0 Idk why this is getting downvoted its obvious sarcasm|0 I stockpiled for 6 months because i worked wit several very high ranked people from the governementWith current stategy my model saysIn may the hospitals will overrun and in july 50 of the people are infected|0 Whats hilarious is this We argue about communism while the whole world burns The problem may be government itselfTribe upI might be premature on this|0 This is quite low indeed if that holds it would be very good newsAny data on the age structure of the cultIt would also be interesting to know more about treatmentprotocols in SK do they differ from those in eg Italy or China|1 Your trip might be disrupted Dont be surprised if it is The truth is this virus has probably been spreading for weeks It might take two or more weeks to actually show symptoms in infected patients That combined with current testing is why were going to see an escalation of cases and measures to stop the spread|0 What does karma do Like what is the point of it I joined many months ago but havent actually used Reddit till recently|1 ironic part would be if it was a rat that served as the intermediary since it is year of the rat in chinese zodiac Which is known to have brought the bubonic plague |0 My symptoms whilst mild was abit more pronounced then yours I guess as I had quite a noticeable dry cough This coupled with my wife showing symptoms hours after I did as well cement our decision to call 111 Does the US government have guidance on this As UK literature did mention to call 111 even if conditions are mild they are being extra cautious understandably Do you have sick leave at work|0 just go fuck up their windows with rocks jesus will repair thosenon violent solution those are situations where people should devalue church how stupid they are and how bad they work they couldve easily opened campaigns to donate to faster the vaccine process and in the end say see Jesus saved us through our actions thank Godbut no lets be dumb and get people to hate us the first thing ill do when lockdown ends is to cover their front doors with MURDERS posters|0 Doesnt this comment imply that you are only willing to help people because it obligates them to help you in the future|1 Better stark stocking up on canned goods bottled water anything else you need And buy some vegetable seeds I would if I could|1 I returned from Singapore last Saturday night so Ive been back a full week From all accounts to date it appears to be a milder version of the flu I could have picked up anything travelling that caused my symptoms as they are quite common in the unlikely event it was corona virus then it was as bad as a really bad cold I certainly wouldnt be terrified Compared to the flu which knocked me for six a few years back this is a walk in the park The reason I think its already intrenched in our big cities is because it has been reported to be contagious without symptoms and as its not very severe most people that have it probably wouldnt know and probably wouldnt be concerned enough to go to the doctors Other than to be tested for the virus for curiosity reasons I was never sick enough to go and see a doctor for treatmentI dont think you can stop this one I think its going to affect us all and I heard a virologist from a uni somewhere suggesting this strain will become like a common cold it will just circulate the globe year to yearEither way the government in Australia has a very strict criteria on who can be tested for corona virus As it stands it will not pick up any new infections it will only confirm infections from people who have been in direct contact with a confirmed carrier of the virusIndonesia have not detected a single case however I highly doubt they are Corona virus free It seems wherever they are testing numbers are showing up as positive and they no longer have clear links to Wuhan Australia may not be doing widespread testing as they are of the opinion that there is nothing that can be done anyway|1 Cuz fuck Canads I guess|0 Honestly I find the situation terrifying and dont know where to draw the line between being careful and being outright paranoid Im convinced barely anyone seems to care or think it will affect them My partner is recovering from a bone marrow transplant he had only a few months ago hes still on immunosuppressants and been told to come into hospital as infrequently as possible to reduce risk my housemate suffers heart problems and is type 2 diabetic and Im type 1 diabetic but otherwise healthy but as a result of the UKs ridiculous lack of response and precaution Im concerned about leaving the house and have cancelled all social plans as I dont want to bring it back Im very careful about washing my handsnot touching my face as has been programmed into me since my partner having his chemo for leukemia last year but I just feel like its never going to be enough Honestly think that the gov would do better just telling immunocompromisedolder people to stay home to protect themselves and making sure those people have sick pay to lower the potential death toll Would also be nice to see signs at retailers telling people not to cough into tissuescovering mouth then washing hands otherwise the retailer has the right to remove them from the store to protect staff and customers This should apply to transport too Ive heard and seen some horrendous horror stories regarding this too Good luck to everyone on here and dont be afraid to remind people to be less careless for the sake of others|0 Unless youre in a hotzone you almost surely just have a normal cold or flu Stress will just make you sicker Stay calm |0 Hopefully this will stop those idiots saying the NHS and PHE are not doing enough testing|1 Most defeatist attitude There you go|0 There are no masks available anywhere in the USAEven a banana will keep you from touching your face so much and catch your spittle if you coughMany of the masks in HK are sewn with fabric not medical grade|0 I gotcha I wasnt disagreeing with what you said just thought that was a perfectly relevant exampleAnd I dont know that it is well known even today most people still just accept the numbers being published that its around 90k infected while its probably more like more than a million in China alone|1 This is where Im at I work in the family leisure travel industry and if places like Disneyland or Walt Disney World close even for a week or two our business would be severely damaged if not completely destroyed I know worrying does not help but that hasnt stopped me before|0 Im sorry Im anxious too but mostly self inflicted Im working from home and the company I work for has been absolutely amazing We are going to get through this together I wish you the very best|1 Yes but communism on paper at least should have extreme welfare programs|1 I 100 believe this story My wife had dinner with a friend of hers who was at this event where patient 32 caught the virus from patient 17 Her friend is in self isolation right now and is denied testing until she shows symptoms her husband and everyone else in contact with her is told to get on with their lives Im trying so hard not to freak out right now|1 Thank you for your response I feel as if I am a perspicacious undergrad that goes about his daily routine as normal whilst knowing full well that I should not be doing so I feel like a rarity a movie character that can foresee and no one else will acknowledge I have always been worrisome but this time it feels different The only folks who will listen is those in the Reddit communities my girlfriend and my grandparents But enough of that thank you for you information I understand the economic side of things but I never really thought of the ethics and liability And thanks for your acknowledgement that it was my first post your response about your first gave me a laugh lol|1 Might as well say it now I think itll be all but US|1 There is literally a picture of an ambulance with two paramedics outside it in full hazmat gear like 3 posts downHave you seen he pictures also of testing stations Yep you guessed it all kitted out to protect them as much as possible How are they not protected exactly Those who believe they have coronivirus have been advised for weeks now not to come into hospital A hospital is probably one of the safest places right now bar from those few wards with ICU patients in The vast majority of NHS workers right now are not fighting the virus|1 Why are you here This sub is not for you Its for a scientific discussion Not spreading vague information about how the sky is falling|0 Isnt October when its predicted to get worse again based off of previous viruses|0 Considering how insanely contagious it is I believe it|0 Im a brown guy who was born in Australia Ive always kinda felt like I didnt belong but once when I came back from overseas the customs staff kept saying welcome home and it damn near made me cry|0 specifically it originated from the army cook because one of the pigs he used in the food was infected and it transferred to the soldiers that way who then carried it to well everywhere Thanks WW1|1 Yep Allowing business to control and run public good industries for profit is absurd This is the kind of shit that happens|1 Its not obsessing over testing to expect that we should be testing|1 They just need to give everyone 1000 per month at a time like this That way people can stay home and not risking contracting the virus by going out and infect everyone else|1 Twitter sources may not be reliable If possible please resubmit with a link to a reliable source or the direct articleThank you for helping us keep information in rCoronavirus reliableI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Same Im being chucked around different places doing different jobs because people are calling in but because Im on probation I got told Id risk my job by calling in especially with all the staff cuts to happen in the result of a recession My mum has chemo and my dads a lifelong smoker with high BP too so this could backfire so fuckin horribly I dont know why theyre doing this to us Ill be left on my own to look after my sister if they dont shut everything down ASAP|0 Tests literally werent available back in December they didnt get the DNA sequences until Jan which was considered astonishingly fast Remember China was dealing with a new virus so of course it would be difficult to identify and correctly attribute death to where as US has all the information available right now and is still making the same decisions|0 Wtf is with all these smart people ignoring Italy|0 It shocked me when I realized in my late 30s I had as much risk as someone in their 50s Damn is it really happening Im really getting oldOh well Im prepared to selfquarantine ifwhen it happens Ive already talked to my parents and expressed to my coworkers to talk to their parents too and plan ahead|0 They have said all along that this virus takes different forms and they do not yet understand why it affects some people in a certain way and others in a different way Meaning fatal with pnemonia or organ failuredeath in some and in others only a mild cold or flu symptomsThey are saying that age or preexisting conditions will make you more vulnerable whichis true for anything but they are not covering up the fact that this can be in fact has been proven to be a very serious virus with deadly consequences and should be taken seriouslyThe issue for the death rate is the assumption that the numbers in China are not accurate and they are where we really need to go to get the most accurate numbers So speculation about it at this point is an exercise in futilityWhat gives me hope is the fact that we are havign success in containment outside of ChinaI think what happened is that they had a virus they did not understand was a new virus until things got out of hand and even then they did not realize the ease of which it spreads So when they finally decided to quarrantine Wuhan sp but announced they were going to do that before they did it then many of the already sick people fled that city and thus spread it throughout Chinawhich I believe it the reason they can not yet contain it due to the fact that the people in other parts of China were not under alert for this virus in the proper way keeping it hushHad they not announced the quarrantine but shut of that city I think they would be having success in containment by this time They do not have enough resources to give the amount of effort strict quarrantine measures will take in all of their provinces to keep this thing from causing large outbreaks in all of their country before they are finished with itThe question is how long will planes stop going inand out of China IF you were there you would take the first plane you could out to save yourself and your family So that is the real danger How long the rest of the world keeps up with the notion that China is a viral threat at the moment will be the key to keeping it from spreading worldwide|0 So the death rate is 2 but two out of two died in this story Hmmmmmmmmm|0 Its a second world country it isnt very rich on a per capita basis and has significant income inequality between regions|0 Also consciously make an effort to avoid touching your face Ranges vary between 3 30 face touches an hour on average though this will vary culturally and is likely a major avenue of coldflu transmission Remember most happily not all of your orifices are on your face|1 Yes and not only there I had Coronavirus in late December along with my wife and couple of my friends It was terrible|1 Heres a fun little addendum to a common saying Women and children first Unless theyre poor|1 9000 is assumed no preventive measures had been undertaken but flights were cancelled and limited screening was done The reports actual 31 estimate is 1000The article uses May to get clicks but could have is much more accurate The US count could have had 9000 if no prevention was done|0 I dont even know how to comprehend this persons ego He should be fired and charged assuming it is possible under Italian lawfor endangerment of the students|0 Might end up alot higher if Italy keeps having those numbers too quite insane reallyEdit with the current confirmed cases worldwide and the current confirmed deaths it stands at 37 but we all know theres still a large number of unconfirmed cases so lets hope the real death rate is much lower|0 This is pure political agenda His main enemy is CCP and he uses virus situation to put blame on government What does he want To weaken his country in spun of crisis To start a revolution or something This has nothing to do with virus he is a radical political activist At least thats what i get from his speech|0 Of course man please keep me posted Were in this together Take care x|1 I agree with the above Dogs are family members hereif anyones killing my dog theyre killing me too|0 Hopefully everyone feels better and there will be a cure also thank you for the insit of whats going on|1 Stop posting these papers They do not agree with what you claim they say Especially 2 says that SARS vaccine in Rhesus worked very well|0 The opposite of normalcy bias is overreaction or worstcase scenario biasin which small deviations from normality are dealt with as signals of an impending catastrophe The plot thickens|0 Is there any proof to this Ive just read about things being approved Theres still supply chain issues to deal with|1 Surely yes In Denmark they still dont test except eole with travel or direct exposure risk|1 Poor Toddhe is kind of weird though|0 Sometimes common sense isnt so common Maybe his breath smells like shit didnt want to breath in the fumes|0 I think we need to ramp up testing NOW before we have extensive community spread not after We should be looking at testing Centers home testing and drive thru like South Korea I would rather have a small percentage take advantage then be in an uncontrolled spread situation like in Wuhan That would be way more destructive to our healthcare and economy|0 The bald guy with glass on his head was touching his face egregiously up until the other Dr reminded people to not touch their facesHabits are hard to breakAlso the husband of the lady that went to SK has only been exposed to his wife for 45 days she returned to the states on the 23rd There is a chance he could still develop symptoms To say his is fine is a bit of a misnomer|1 Yes Ive seen that The mice didnt get sick they gradually lost up to 510 body weight by 5 days after infection and were back to normal by 14 days It looks nothing like the illness in humans|1 HBO should start recording material for making What is the cost of lies part 2|0 The potential vaccine for SARS failed in that it actually made the disease worse|0 Id recommend Florida but|1 You got downvoted because youre a lunatic|0 Or the amazon flex contractors|1 Ive got everything but weapons Chances are we wont need them but hell even as someone who doesnt care for guns Im starting to see the reason for their advocates|0 This just goes to show that they can do it any time they want and that bandwidth is an artificial concern they use to put in these restrictions and charge people more|1 Birthting centres have lots of options for pain relief many of them less invasive and incapacitating than epidural In fact birthing centres are a lot more focused on womens comfort and wellbeing than hospitals If you want to be treated like a human being whose experience and feelings actually matter rather than just a vessel for the baby that stands between the baby and the doctor getting it out birthting centres are your best betBesides in many countries epidurals already arent all that common in hospitals|1 We need to shut down the entire state of NY Everyone must be in quarantine besides those that are health care Police Firefighters and military|1 Only one doctorIf youre downvoting this because you think Im wrong Im sorry you cant read the article which specifically says its produced by a single doctor Otherwise carry on|0 I dont disagree I never have Stupid people on TV Stupid leaders I spend no time listening to talking heads with 500 opinions If I did I would not have prepared 4 weeks ago and pulled my kids from school Did you People are just barking at each other Its not productive It is what it is We need to face forward and lean into whats coming Thats all that matters We need to work forward to deal with this issue Im only focussed on that There will be plenty of time later to point the finger|1 If enough wear them Population Level Please quote a sentence from the study claiming this is true on an individual level as wellAs long as you get your masks legally do with them whatever you want though|1 A CCP loyalist billionaire that endorsed Chinas 72 hour work week Yup just like Buddha|1 We just did the same thing We were going to take the kids cousins to Science North etc Sudbury for a preMarch Break blow out and cancelled everything today Its not worth the risk at all Stay safe|1 Do the reports of reinfection weeks later suggest the virus has mutated Or that the immune response in second infection is not as strong as it should behttpsnewsskycomstorycoronavirusjapanconfirmsfirstcaseofpersonbeingreinfectedwithcovid1911944295|0 Very interesting assessment thanks for this information An invisible enemy|1 More like China started this whole fucking thing|1 It has nothing to do with the words only to do with the number of countries in the number of dead Which is actually stated in the article that you put in your very own comment|0 Thanks please keep updating we want the truth You speak great English |1 I really hope so too Best of luck|1 Thats great Im B and I think I rarely have stomach infections I pretty much can eat anything and rarely fall sick with food|1 Oh is that why every western country with free healthcare is testing wayyyyyy more than the USA with its fantastic profit based healthcare system Im sorry but your statement doesnt hold up even with the coronavirus If what you said was true we would of been testing at higher lvls than all these socialist European countries We arent tho I dont know what the is but probably 90 people in the United States has private healthcare So no youre wrong|1 I worked fast food in my early 20s and it was obnoxious but so was I|0 To be fair were pissed at the woefully inadequate response from the US government which seems to be politically motivated|0 There is no way he can say that he did not infect anyone|0 My teacher at college on Friday asked us if we have laptops and if we dont we should let her know She said if the uk government ask them to shut the college down well be able to do the work from home|1 True Even with the sequestered population its a challenge to get proper dataIts also possible older immune systems put up less of a struggle|1 Not a bad idea|1 They dont have to fully recover but maybe they have been improving for a while and have been reclassified today|1 Pay me well enough and I can dodge nukes Just dont ask to check my logs|1 Totally agreed You might want to check this news httpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfew3d2covid19testingnumbersbycountrymarch7thutmsourceshareutmmediumiosapputmnameiossmf|1 My best guess would be months of hell followed by a slower summer then maybe they find drugs that workhelp else things pick up again in the fall then hopefully by next year theres a vaccine If you need a bit of hope google how South Korea and Singapore are doing|1 The USA is such a fucking joke Your government is run by dumb twits and The CDC by a bunch of underachievers with no proper education it seems They tell people not to wear masks and front line nurses arent even being tested after exposure They dont care about the population youre just an afterthought for themThe risk to the American people has never been so high sheeple|0 the worst part of COVID iswhen infected many people would not show any symptomand they still can infect other people That is why everybody should wear masksnot only to protect yourselfbut everyonex200Bedit I just came across this article by NYT httpswwwnytimescom20200226healthcoronavirusasymptomatichtmlhttpswwwnytimescom20200226healthcoronavirusasymptomatichtml|0 Im pretty sure the guy who doesnt know what office he is running for should be the one to drop out We already have a demented driver at the wheel We dont need another That video is just Joe slowly reading a teleprompter off to his right our left Im not impressed|1 Ive been thinking that ever since i listened to the briefing today Wonder what a week from now will look like|1 I firmly believe weve done enough to avoid the biggest spike we could have had and were going to continue to do more in our major population centers like LA San Fran NYC Seattle etcThe only state Im genuinely concerned about right now not flattening their curve is Florida Those folks are in for a very very rude awakening this upcoming week Especially with their age group skewing higher than most Im in Seattle Where it started and where it ran through a single retirement home and killed a huge of our total recorded deaths so far I know how dedicated this state has been to flattening that curve I think were still behind where we couldshould have been as a country without a doubt but were going to get through this|0 This couple shouldnt have to do it and this kind of generosity isnt something that anyone can rely on Great for the couple and the restaurant but what about everyone else who cant get paid Wait for some kind soul to make a 9400 donation Thatt not a real or stable solution We are the richest country in the world our citizens should not have to get lucky to be able to go a few weeks without working It is absolutely disgusting and trying to wipe it away as oh dont be a buzzkill is how that injustice continues|1 The data shows its been spreading but with Chinas quarantine measures its been slowing down Also China wont count people infected but not showing symptoms Thats not confirmation bias thats a fact The White House doesnt even trust chinas numbers bud Go to rCoronavirus if you want to be in a less skeptical subreddit|0 Thats lower than the 19 I saw before|0 Yeah thats been it for me I am healthy and have good cardio but jees cant prepare for a brain infection that just shuts down your breathing|1 Feels like the states should just do their own thing and maybe buy test kits from somewhere else In the long run not having adequate testing will definitely cost more|1 Eh Cat is out the bag at this point They should obviously have those checks in place but its not as important as it was before when there was a chance to contain it Too late for that|1 I collected the lab samples from the first patient in the USA during the SARS outbreak I volunteered to be the only other person allowed in the room besides the Dr As I was suiting up and they were training me how the suit and mask worked I kept thinkingI have 4 kids at homewhat am I doing I didnt back out but I know exactly how our healthcare workers will be feeling The anxiety was pretty bad for me because so much was unknown Good news the precautions worked the health dept hospital and CDC worked extremely well together I am praying it all works out the same this time|1 Chief Medical Officer of Australia Brendan Murphy specifically told Australians NOT to wear them This is the man who stands next to Prime Minister on TV and gives updates Absolutely outrageous|0 What bullshit is this this crappy story and your shitty grammar leads me to believe youre some paid Russian troll hired to sow misinformation online Try writing a more believable story when you create your next username|0 Would suck being the guy in charge with something like this going onRegardless of your political affiliation we have to give full support to our politicians|1 Very few non critical COTS parts possibly but everything I have worked on is designed and made in he US|0 Internet hug|1 This entire sub reads like a conspiracy subreddit People here selectively believe or dont believe China and world governments based on whether or not the information is panicky enough Ridiculous extrapolations are made regarding how dangerous the disease is like taking Irans case mortality rate of 15 as a fact keep in mind that early mortality rates of diseases are generally estimated to be way too high because only severe cases are testedhttpswwwredditcomrCoronaviruscommentsfairo7thissubisalmostat150kmembersandrapidlyfj03hox People here see governments taking precautions and then use that as reasons to be terrified but at the same time shout that governments not taking precautions are putting the population at risk Its all a big cycle of fear|0 He probably at least nominally cares just do to being around so many people and also being in the age range where the lethality is so much worseIf he was 40 and going through this I guarantee he wouldnt give a fucking shit|1 I mean They panic in stages Thats how Seattle has done it and its been fairly effective The grocery stores have time to stock up between each escalation and people have time to adjust|0 This place is unbelievable Ive seen so many people suggesting ideas like this when the idea of people evading quarantine is brought up but the minute the government suggests it its stupid and unrealisticI have no political alignment at all Im 39 and have voted once in my life Lib Dem years ago for the record mainly due to believing all parties are lying bastards that will say what they have to and then do what they want Im rapidly starting to see though that this place obviously does have a preformed bias|0 BC will get hit hard most likely because of Washington However BC Alberta and Ontario Health seem to be on top of things or at least trying In Quebec crickets No information no transparency everyone here in Quebec thinks its the flu|0 I believe brass actually acts as an antibacterial so potentially has the opposite effect than other metals but good to clean everything just in case|1 I agree with you completely I feel like the US will be a much bigger problem than Italy due to the fact were handling it very poorly|1 Telling you its Russian origin Thats why China and Iran are getting the worstRussia couldnt make headway in those counties to screw with them So they create a primary virus create vaccine very selectively dispense vaccine the disperse the virus|1 They arent testing because they dont have enough test kits to distribute to hospitals so all testing is done by the CDC or state disease control Protocol states that only those who are admitted are tested Hopefully that will change as test kits became available presuming they arent faulty as the last ones were|1 Parks have free flowing air with constant wind and miniscule to zero population density The only way for that to happen at a park not playground is if you stand directly in the path of airflow next to an infected person Youd need to go insanely out of the way to make it happen if you even come across someone thats a carrierThe idea is a million times better than your family getting cabin fever which means youre all stressed confined and more likely to defy staying indoors in some way thats actually riskyWhenever I go to a park the only thing I touch is maybe some grass if I sit down or a bottle of water in my pocket usually absolutely nothing though|1 Fun tidbit apocalypses ends with the homophone ellipses which is apt as one describes an end of worlds and another an end of words|1 I knew what you meant I was just pointing out how ineffective it was|0 Please leave a glassdoor review before you die No seriously good luck|1 Cough into your elbows people I cant stress that enough|1 We will be much much worse than China has been in dealing with this thing I think thats been obvious for a while nowTake a breath and relax Now look outside the window Now chill you loon|0 Yeah I mean if this guy on reddit said it was true|1 So if my immune system is good I wont be able to get tested But even if I get tested whats the point right They cant help anyway maybe just give an oxygen mask if breathing is really difficult|1 Same in WA Our postage is even prepaid I like to vote while drinking a beer on my couch|1 Natural selection|1 and then we believe they tell us the correct numbers what a joke hahahahaha|1 Talk about problem action solution|0 I just keep an eye on the news because one of my friends works in a GP here in London they actually got one of the coronavirus patients come in to them and another friend works on the ward in St Thomas as a student nurse Weve got a running bet on wholl get infected first and though were making light of the situation its kind of a mask for how worried we are|1 Youre right they mentioned version 5 in the press conference 2 mornings ago since thats the most up to date version 28 I only used version 4 because thats the one referenced in the tweet Version 5 Trial is here httpwwwnhcgovcnxcszhengcwj202002d4b895337e19445f8d728fcaf1e3e13afilesab6bec7f93e64e7f998d802991203cd6pdfAnd the relevant section for Hubei is page 45 It doesnt differ overmuch from the Chinawide diagnostics in Version 4 but clarifies a bit for the 3rd category in Hubei which I guess is why they made the change|1 Isnt Canada doing pretty well relative to other countries considering the large Italian Indian and chinese community Seems they are responding accurately to the situation at the moment|0 This brings goosebumps on my body and Tears to my eyes Keep up fighting italians We r with u|0 Yep been seeing that at all local coffee shops too|1 Cruz quarantined himself for two weeks after being exposed to someone he is treating it seriously|0 America is the greatest country in the world Trump tweeted yesterday Hed save the world |1 I love Radiolab Which episode is it|1 Its def not hate It sucks as an explanationbut genuinely you cant understand our dark humor until youre a parent Lol|1 In an earlier comment someone mentioned an American with Wuhan travel history had both strainsMy guess complete speculation am no virologist Seattle has the milder strain circulating prominently with LCov slowly killing off people under the guise of sever pneumoniaItalys hospitals probably are circulating LCov or maybe both while superspreaders to other countries could be carrying SCov Iran is most likely seeing LCov though it would make sense if they had more top gov officials traveling directly into China possibly Wuhan Or perhaps theyre all carrying both strains but has different ratio of the strains Does this work that way|0 Do you have a medical condition to be fucked if you get covid|0 Fuck Jeff Bezos|0 You may be vastly overestimating the number of people in the groups you claim to hate or perhaps your criteria for hating someone you disagree with is less stringent than you claim Politics isnt black and white after all|0 I doubt your 3 machine is possible with present technology We use PCR to detect the virus because the amount that can infect humans is so tiny that it has to be amplified before we can detect it|0 Yeah I have some chatting apps I talk to coworkers on try to have at least 23 phonevideo conferences a day but something about the lack of physical human presence that starts to wear on you|0 Yeah Im going to go with there being a lot more mild cases out there that havent been tested Which is still BAD because thats a huge resevoir of cases that can get progressively worse and spread further but its not as bad as the hospitalization rate being stupid high 20 percent is already way too damn high for us to handle|0 C02 Emissions dropped drasticallyPeople now work from home as an experimentthe dumb people who lick shrines catch the virus Darwin awards are being hand outsome other fun things are also happening such as China finally banning the consumption of wild animals|1 Eh not really in this case there are a certain class of algorithms that are better in quantum computers and thats limited by the mechanics of the qubit and how data can be formatted for a quantum computerMoores law with a classic computer makes it better at any general task A quantum computerwill get faster at the types of tasks its well suited to|1 We should hold our last big event before we close yeah thats a good idea|1 In Qubec you have private clinics where you can pay to receive a first class fast service|0 God Bless to him and his family from America And thank you for telling these stories from something everyone is on edge about|1 thats the issue Im having my family go out every day and interact with many people etc and they think im crazy to suggest that we might be in the beginning of something very huge and dangerous they even tease me for being so informed about it|0 Can you imagine people actually not wanting to fuck up the planet and their health|1 if you guessed that everybody in hollywood raped kids youd be right more often than youd be wrong|0 Wow Someone immunocompromised who needs the help of others to not die including herd immunity thinks left leaning politics are socialism and therefore bad|1 I would wear a mask and gloves Your health is more important than their image Good luck|1 And announcing 60 days would have been much harder than the 120 to 180 days this is very likely going to end up atIm adjusting my initial estimate from 68 weeks to 46 monthsBecause thats not sustainable what well see are swift upticks in infection rate followed by lockdowns which get relaxed new upticks new lockdowns and so onProbably around 2 years of that and if we really wanted to do it right we needed to space the pandemic out across 4 years according to these NYT numbers especially the ICU beds that are lifecritical see lower half of articlehttpswwwnytimescominteractive20200317upshothospitalbedshortagescoronavirushtmlhttpswwwnytimescominteractive20200317upshothospitalbedshortagescoronavirushtml|1 Keep an ear open in case a govt program is started for those losing jobs due to COVID You never know they may decide that helping Main Street matters|0 So Ive posted this before anecdotal post I read immunology for my undergraduate degree many years ago now A semester on the Influenza Virus I remember a lecturer explaining the following A respiratory virus requires live viable host cells to invade Once inside it then proceeds to hijack the intracellular machinery to replicate make copies of itself When you smoke you are effectively damaging destroying the layer of epitheial cells that line your airways A virus that invades a damaged dead disfuntional cell isnt going to be able to replicate efficiently Essentially youve created a buffer of dead damaged tissue that is reducing a virus opportunity to establish itself in a functional cell If it gets inside a healthy cell your next cigarette might damage that cell triggering their destruction and replacement I remember my lecturer was a smoker obviously I wouldnt want to debate anybody on the subject and Im certainly not preaching this as truth or good science Just a funny little memory I have wanted to share the anecdote|0 Team numbers do not affect what research youre getting you were told bad info upthread Whether or not you join a team has no impact on your contribution|0 Hes in charge His people are running the show The CDC told his people NOT to put the infected on the plane but they did it anyway|0 The United States is a developing country medically It was nice to meet you too|1 And this is why Im keeping my son home from school today Enough is enough They are holding a parent teacher night tonight too I already let the school know we wont be attending that either Theres been no reports of cases where we are yet I have 5050 custody with his father who thinks Im nuts but the way I see it its my job to keep my family safe It also sux being the only adult in my home I have anxiety and worry ten steps to begin with This is just overloaded my poor brain March break next week schools should officially be cancelled by then until they get things under control|0 Came here to say this Here people are sitting and intellectualising the consequences of the outbreak over beer with friends And irony dies a hundred deaths I will not be surprised if there is only two percent of the population that is actually taking precautions Everybody else is probably waiting to know someone personally who has tested positive maybe then some sense will kick and by then itd be too late Hell its already too late in the US|1 Has germany declared to stop issuing visa for people from wuhan and its nearest province|0 Thanks Obama|1 ty|1 thank you very much|1 Ok it is terrifying the numbers are rising this fast but at least its not exponential If it goes by 2500 a few days then start to dwindle to 1000 and so forth Italy you can do it|0 Youre definitely better off the data showed that smokers who went to hospital had worse outcomes Maybe fewer went to the hospital in the first place because it was normal for their lungs to be ruined so they didnt notice the difference as much|0 Yeah they swapped moderation rules since this sub gained traction|1 The Spanish Flu did not originate in Spain But Spain reported on it because they werent part of the war going on and thus were not classifying it as a nationalsecurity issue Since they were the ones to openly report on it it got tagged as being Spanish|0 Why do people keep on regurgitating the same thing over and over again If they let the doctor speak without properly planning to shut down the city and without properly investigating if it was a virus first everyone would have fled the city and containment would have been much harderIf they just took the world of the doctor and he was wrong it would have lead to massive disruptions to the economy Its a tough decision to quarantine 50 million people and to properly plan for a massive quarantine cant be done at a snap of the finger|0 Yep I dont like to fly I like to take the train I seem to do much better traveling that way However considering the way that society is just spreading a virus like crazy I will start driving everywhere I want to go No interest in flying across the pond Im good here|1 But you cant stop trading to halt a recession thats ridiculous|0 Are you reading ufwoggie2 everyday Hes doing some excellent work over there in rsupplychain with his daily updates|1 So they shouldnt do this I mean this seems like a great idea No country has really been prepared or not run out of masks ventilators etc Just saying its too late doesnt help|1 Hand Washing Intensifies|1 Do not let that bother you In the long run you you can pass your knowledge and guidance onto your children grandchildren and great grandchildren Trust me They will thank you in the long run for it as I now thank my father for passing it into me though he is no longer here to tell him facetoface|1 taking away vital resources from someone who needs themno one really cares about this at least not until someone close to them gets confirmed infected its too late and they realise how big the problem really is|0 How was the video uploaded if he was arrested Was he livestreaming|0 Look Canadian I would move north in a heartbeat but Canada wont take me as I am linguistically challenged and just speak one language and with only a Bachelors degree and less than a million dollars I can only visit for 6 months at a time|0 As this story is pointing out the minute you create a perceived or otherwise risk for self reporting you see less people report If people will fear being detained theyre going to wait until they dont even need the adviceI would suggest that most people at this point wouldnt go against advice unless actually taking the advise could cause punishment|0 I definitely read this 2 weeks ago If I didnt and Im going crazy does anyone remember an article talking about plasma transfusions|1 lost of people knew this claim was BS to begin with but im suprised how many people believed them mabey people parroting that point knew it too but wanted to be seen as helping in SK and japan we heard reports that you were basically banned for leaving the house without a mask I still dont fully understand how authorities werent able to manage supplies considering they dont buy surgical masks off the shelf|0 A CDC screener at LAX airport just tested positive for COVID19 I mean wouldnt someone from the freaking CDC know better than to be touching their face and such I dont know if he wore a mask or not but I dont believe that having a mask would increase the odds of becoming infected especially in high traffic high risk areas like major airports Since there is a shortage of masks priority needs to go to those at greatest risk Thats the real reason people are being advised to not buy masks But this weird insistence that people are too stupid to wear masks properly and not touch their faces is nonsense Masks have been proven to reduce the spread of infection during outbreaks like this and other countries are even mandating them|0 Thanks|1 Me when my town gets an infected corona virus dude httpsyoutubeDv3eduzcZxc|0 We are not in the same position we were even during the Spanish Flu let alone the othersA rapid shutdown of the worlds fragile and deeply connected economies could be fatal for many in and of itselfHowever even more concerning is that an abrupt stoppage of industry and transport would almost certainly cause some abrupt spike in global temperatures due to the effect known as global dimming Theres a lot of uncertainty over how much but the median figure is around 05C Thats a tremendous amount of warming that could happen in a very short period of time and it could trigger tipping points that could accelerate the climate crisis in catastrophic ways The problem with global dimming is that no one really knows how it functions Theres some off chance it might be a big nothingburger but as more and more data comes back telling us that there are more tipping points than we thought and that the climate system is more sensitive than believed that is highly doubtful|0 False positives can also happen with bad design that increases the odds of nonspecific amplification Possible but unlikely given how many eyes are on thisSouth Korea reports the sensitivity of their test is over 95 whereas the sensitivity of the US test is between 7080 Isnt it possible that some of the assay designs are simply biased to be sensitive|0 If you look at the data death rates for men are much higher then for women but in China smokers are mostly menSmoking might make it less likely for you to get infected but I suspect it will still make it more likely for you to die|0 I just hope when this is all over he gives us the scoop on whats really going on I feel like hes reserving his criticism for now but he has to feel pretty silly having to explain that the millions of tests he and the administration promised not only wont be ready when they said it would but that they dont even know what the time frame will be That steamer of an excuse he laid out there on the MSM about the kits being ready but the labs not being ready was pretty stinky|1 Given the economic impact of COVIDrelated social distancing isolation and quarantine is your foundation committed to anything beyond direct medical intervention For example increasing funding to food banks politically supporting bills that provide incomesick leave for workers etc|1 This is a mistake Theyre sending children to grandparents and to the households of the most vulnerable This develops in stages if the right steps are taken too early then the effects of these extraordinary interventions decreases over time and at the time when the virus reaches its peak isolation wont be taken seriously any longer|0 There are no other parts of the world the world is far too global now I work in logistics of all people I see it every day Strict quarantine in a single province of China has already made a dent of nearly 400 bl USD in Chinas economy and we are yet to calculate the damage for the rest of the world We are seeing people going bust right now companies left with no supplies andor resources from China now must rebuild their whole logistics chains and its easier said than done|0 People dont need to be locked in their homes like in Wuhan South Korea is a democracy as is Taiwan We need to employ extensive testing contact tracing proper quarantines for those infected and their families and social distancing like in Korea We are doing none of it|1 A foe of humanity|0 The hero we need|1 Sounds like bored scientist speaks|1 Well those cases are numbers we keep being reminded that those numbers are people and people are definitely dying off tracing this backwards leads to cases dying off s|1 I dont know but I assume it was probably getting too much attention and stressing her out in an already stressful time|0 Shops should increase their prices if demand is higher than supply to make sure goods are still available for people who really need themExpensive goods are better than sold out goodsIts really frustrating that almost nobody gets this|1 Thats sucks We were on spring break when the first case in our county was detected If that didnt happen I dont think my university wouldve transitioned to solely online|0 You could do well enough to get a scholarship and not need to pay or pay next to nothing for trade school|1 ERs here in Texas are asking about any international travel but how much longer will that even matter We have no idea to what extent this is already circulating in the US|0 Worth noting that the reason Im having this test done is that I was overseas Thailand Indonesia Malaysia and Singapore between 123 and 29 My girlfriend got tested before me and we have spent a lot of time together She came back negative|0 Interesting study thanks for the link What is the difference between CFR and IFR|1 Propaganda is a hell of a thing|0 same here thought about alot but never thought about the possibility the coffeeshops would close XD|1 I think the short answer is they didnt It has been circulating much longer than they have acknowledged There have been a couple of random posts attributing African students in Wuhan saying there were strange pneumonia cases as far back as September Thats unsubstantiated thoughThis was posted in January httpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentses21aqwuhanpneumoniasurvivormy22daybattleagainsthttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentses21aqwuhanpneumoniasurvivormy22daybattleagainst and describes a young man admitted to hospital January 2nd when the hospital was already full with similar cases Early January two Doctors from Beijing visit Wuhan come back and Wuhan goes into full quarantine shortly afterwards on 20th January Given what we now know about incubation periods its not unreasonable to work back from the hospital being full early January to a patient zero of September or earlier As far as the statistics go CCP officials are given targets to meet and typically manage statistics as much as possible to meet those targets Chinese figures simply arent trustworthy on pretty much anything any economic analysis on China runs straight into this problem Entertainingly right after the CCP announced the quarantine they issued an order to all provinces to essentially provide accurate figures ie stop lying but as others have pointed out the figures they are providing do not hold up to any kind of mathematical analysis Chernobyl all over again|0 If its close to or over 500 shit is going to hit the fanLuckily thats wey off the reality 373 cases 52 new cases 2748 people tested yesterday|0 What is non essential I have a friend in mexico and aunwing told them two days ago their flight home Friday is all set Is she going to get stuck there|1 The reddit hug of death|0 Right Even with the equipment in sunlight I wouldnt risk taking my kid to a playground right now Everyday though were taking a walk through the woods Theres a lot of old abandoned highways from the 18th century where I live that arent necessarily a proper Park but theyre littleknown quiet and I can keep my toddler entertained|1 MGM will probably screw 99 of their employees They are a heartless company|0 Im in the United States and Ive been following this shit since January Everyone told me I was a nut but here we are|0 GOOD news|1 Im thinking the same maybe we will have this for generations until we only breed immune people Or we just die earlier and get really really sick once a year|0 Yet I get downvoted I get it a lot of you just want an excuse to not go to workschool|1 Same I stocked up my apartment 2 weeks ago and stocked up a week ago at my gf parents house Ive been warning everyone for literally a month I was following this shit when it broke out in China I remember the day they shut down Wuhan My best friend is from China and whole family is over there nanchang and I knew what was coming here I panicked and had a ton of anxiety and was told I was crazy for a month Fuck even 4 days ago I was talking to my friends and telling them I cant believe people are just continuing their lives as if everything is normal Thank the lord people are starting to panic I felt the most relief and calmness I had in months when I heard stores were being raided and everything being canceled Such a relief Everyone is panicking now and Im sitting here finally relieved that everyone is finally worried about it and stuff is changing The irony|0 Next should be a notice that hotels rescind all cancellation fees I have several acquaintances who are travelling state to state because hotels refuse to take the Covid19 situation into considerationx200BLooking at you Marriot and St Regis with your absurd 60 day cancellation policy|0 Stay safe you two|1 thank God it wasnt mei would have deleted that picture|1 Its money though The government have to help since those businesses employ so many people I work and have worked online so Im not affected but many are The quicker we hole up and get through this the better it will be tough instead of dragging it out|1 My sister has been sick for two weeks with symptoms that could be either covid19 or any other respiratory virus Her doctor refused to test her because she couldnt confirm that shes had direct contact with someone who is positive and hasnt been out of the country recently We live in Santa Clara county where it is becoming increasingly widespread in the community She explained to a second telehealth doctor that shes recently been to conferences with lots of foreign people college campuses to do presentations and recruiting and has been in contact with hundreds of people They still wouldnt test her I asked her to selfquarantine because nobody can apparently confirm or deny that shes infected with covid19 The stranglehold on testing kits is ridiculous|0 I have been called the same by my eldest My doctors were eager to downplay it to me too They didnt seem to understand that theres a reason why I was panicking two weeks ago about buying enough dry goods and other necessities for a month Now that my state looked like it was going to cancel school and Im unable to get the necessary for normal groceries and definitely nothing I can stock up on My son is still treating me like I am stupid about it and then his father picked him up spouting the nonsense of more people died of the flu this year than Covid19 and its death rate for influenza is much lower than Covid19 Then I knew where my son got his head filled with idiotic misinformation despite my best efforts and not watching Fox News|0 Statistics have suggested that the large majority of people under 50 dont have to really worry too much of the virus itself with 02 or lower death rates for people under 40 and 04 from 4049However these numbers largely come from China with many doubting those numbers Completed case fatality rate is quite high outside of China but it takes longer to fully recover and test negative than to die from the virusFrom what youve seen and know do you believe the official statistics are accurate Should the large majority of people under 50 worry about their elders instead of themselves|0 is that fatality rate of 410 of hospitalizations in relation to the regular flu or COVID|0 Supplies are coming back in stock everywhere With this virus a true measure of preparation is not how many years of toilet paper you have but how well equipped your immune system is In my experience gloating about being right only brings bad karma Help others not point and blame|1 In Corvallis and I wouldnt call it panic but shelves are looking pretty barebones Costco was apparently a zoo this weekend though|1 Lol no Vietnam is so far behind This is absolute BS So much trash tabloid shit gets upvoted here|0 Thank you for the encouragement I wish there were more people like you|1 Hey I hope things turn around for you soon Life is wild and unpredictable but Id like to think if you go through absurd shit like that theres something around the corner thats good coming I could just be hopelessly naive and thoughts and prayers isnt quite my deal but I truly hope your luck turns around|1 Can a blood donation transmit covid Im feeling sick but more cold like than flu like and I dont want to spread it more|1 So better let the children die|0 Or the CFR could be much less if it spreads that wide As of yesterday it was reported that the average age of people that have died in Italy is 81|0 Having the virus make the rounds in congress wouldnt cause me to lose any sleep|0 Sounds a bit like Free blankets for native americans|1 The people who depend on receiving these payments arent only using them to pay their mortgage They also need groceries medications ect|0 Fuck Jeff BezosNo gold pls I fuck him for free|0 This is my feeling as well Let them all kiss open mouth and end our suffering|1 Why are you wasting time on this bot|0 Ok now this is just ridiculous Fuck you CDC As if you havent fucked up enough already|0 This is good Taking measures is a good thing Stay safe and clean friend |1 Yes People wonder why children are so entitled today This is tragic all of this but perhaps it will help people to become more human in the end|1 I was quoting directly from a news article but go off Does this sub take some sort of pro coronavirus stanceCoronavirus is a reality this sub takes a proreality stance The fact is people are panicking about something they cannot control Wrong Theres plenty people can do to reduce the risk to themselves and others fully within their control Being alarmed is 100 rational and appropriate There is no need to worry about a bursting water line thats outside your house that you cant control You cant control the spread of corona so the best thing is to correctly inform people This is not a worse case scenario with a certain death rateThis kind of thinking will get more people killed than needed|0 The millions of them part is particularly insulting Theres no reason you would wait for a million or no process in place to batch out a million anything at exactly one point in time You can just say were increasing production Our current rate is k per day and were reserving those for the most critical circumstances We estimate to be producing k test per day in X days In the meantime Blah blah instructions to behave responsibly|0 There are already 50 cases in Iceland but Greenland is still not getting infected Need to mutate it to spread via cruise ships Oh wait it already did Good player|1 Which sucks because its not like you can rehab your lung the way you can rehab your knee to gain back range of motion This virus is the perfect storm Ugh|1 Thanks for infecting people doing Gods work|1 Hey this has no relevance to COVID19 As stated previously was found in a nonrandomized manner to have potential benefit for those with a bacterial etiology And a large RCT was done to follow up on this published in the last year in NEJM I think demonstrating no morbidity or mortality benefits with this protocol|1 Accepting it and moving on will infect on average 22 more people Statistically its more deathGotta try not to get it|1 Happy cake day|1 So it begins My fatherinlaw told me yesterday he expects all restaurants to close down until this is over I work in one and I just took on all my own bills and rent for the first time This should get interesting|1 We vote by mail in Washington and its awesome|1 I dont think anyone really believes SARS only killed that many Look at the death rates within China and outside of China|0 Not gonna lie Im vegan and this is making me extra smug|1 Good idea|1 I wonder if those numbers are just from people turned away from the hospital and maybe their immediate family numbers as a projection It sounds like an utter shit show to get treated let alone tested Most people are getting sent home even with symptoms How else can they come up with suspected cases but from who they send home|0 No it just wouldnt have been my first stop Cant really blame the person but the rest of us just shake our heads in disbelief|0 You love Posters Reddit is a censored POS|1 In America you have a bill of rights and thats what would make a US response like this harder You just cant imprison US citizens in their own town and restrict their travel because of laws and rights This shows what totalitarian governments are capable of when it comes to disease|0 I wish I had a death note so I can write tedros name|0 More people die in car accidents than nuclear explosions so why are we worrying about nuclear war|0 Hope they do it for Germany as well cuz the amazon workers here are every year on strike for Christmas and Black Friday |1 My entire family was sick the past week so mother has been stocking up on disinfectants cold syrup natural and medical Theraflu Tea bleach liquid and tablets toilet paper gloves etc We have a good amount of dry food but I think well need more if were stuck at homeGuess Im gonna do some more research on prep now|1 When I worked at Starbucks I developed a migraine so bad that I momentarily lost sight in one of my eyes I was told it was not an excuse to miss my shift|0 ROTFL especially the militarized penguins|1 Do u have a guns to protect yourself The fact that there was a manhunt yesterday scares me Crime would definitely go up|0 No you get the statuary sick pay But most people would be willing to take that financial hit if they knew for sure they had the virus Being told to take the hit just in case and potentially more than once will put a lot of people under real financial pressure|0 That could get a person arrested|0 I live with them My room is a place of transit so I cannot exactly lock it I mean as in how does one convince family to care and act on it I cannot physically avoid them every single time|1 Agreed Just wanted to make sure I understood what your were saying|1 I miss Italia greeting from the |1 no i do it already more than 14 days with 5 kids and we are not infected|1 Well looks like its begun the fed government cant hide and do nothing without the population starting to take rage out at the Feds|1 Hope you feel better|1 Corona fest brought to you by Corona the relaxing beer|1 Ive only been saying that this is a pandemic for like 2 months Once an epidemic spreads and is international its a pandemic|1 Yeah they definitely dont care enough Its pretty frustrating|1 If I ever did something this stupid and selfish I would never show my face in public againThis guy has some answering to do|0 Your post was removed for one of the following reasons Spreading misinformation Encouraging the use of non sourced or speculative opinion as fact Creating meta drama Accusing ethnic andor racial groups in a generalizing wayThank you for understanding|1 I see youre not familiar with military stupidity|0 Not really optimistic just rational|0 I cant believe it has all played out like thisThe initial responses have beendisappointing Except you Singapore Taiwan SK and Isreal you all are pandemic badasses|1 From all these comments hes clearly had a tap on the shoulder|1 Ive talked to a few friends who have families in China most of them never believed the number published by the media they knew there were many more unaccounted for and some never get to see doctors before they died of other symptoms But interestingly they all focused on selfisolation and believe their efforts will soon pay off|1 If the warden knew about it it makes sense How did the warden know about it though I thought the prisoner guard was hiding it did he tell the warden and nothing was done |0 Holy fuck thats upsetting|0 Yep|1 Agreed and when you start reading about how China reactedhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfebv3twhatitslikeinchina0306 Makes you realise how far we have to go The Chinese Government is authoritarian but social compliance is so ingrained that it makes preventative measures easier to implement|1 ha|1 Hopefully more people who voted for him will realize what a true piece of shit he is|1 Im sure trump is once again like I take 100 pic per day and dont know this person like it matters lol They asked him should you be quarantined like others whove been in contact with ppl who have confirmed positive covid19 he is like NEEEXT I dont get how people can tolerate his way of treating others when he gets uncomfortable|1 Its statistically relevant The most accredited estimates for the virus right now are the 3039 ICU rate is well below 1|1 I thought the pragmatic thing to do was secure exclusive vaccine rights s|1 Yet trump blames europemurica|0 Its funny we all went to school and we all remember that 95 of it was bullshit yet now we are paranoid that our own children will miss school|0 Well if nothing happens and you end up with extra beans wont you look foolish|1 Young people not caring about Coronavirus is like old people not caring about climate change|0 Who pays for the innovation America does Other firstworld countries are basically moochers This isnt even worthy of being debated You are flatout wrong httpswwwbrookingseduresearchtheglobalburdenofmedicalinnovation|0 See I remember it being popular in high school as well but I was in high school before then|1 All this just shows why its so important to buy time and shut things down now so we can slow the rate of infection and learn more about how this disease works etc before taking massive decisions about how were going to handle it long term|1 No that means you did it correctly|0 Its like any other profession You have good ones and bad ones You have ones that adapt and keep educated and others that rely only on routine and are stubborn Some are resourceful and some arent at least not anymore than whats required Luck of the draw on that unfortunately What would be nice is having people share this link on all social media platforms which will expose it to more eyes and make it more likely the right people see it|1 The Chinese on weibo are already pointing fingers at the Americans saying how they introduced it to China through the world military games held in Wuhan last year This will just further fuel their accusation against America|0 Post submissions to rChinaFlu should be ontopic relating in some way to the 2019 Wuhanoriginated novel coronavirus SARSCoV2 and COVID19 the disease it causesContent regarding pathogens or diseases other than SARSCoV2 are allowed only if there is a clear relation to SARSCoV2Political discussion is allowed only as it pertains to COVID19 If you believe we made a mistake contact us or help be the change you want to see Mod applications now openhttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsfbxoc1|1 In most countries intentionally spreading bodily fluids onto people constitutes assault|0 This is stupid The truth is that people will share and talk about certain things No one is talking about the subject so someone who is stressed about a dire situation ends up killing himself He was not a target of misinformation he was paranoic and this is hugely in part based on the information block out we have currently To think that it is wrong for people to think that we are not getting the real numbers or that the disease is worse than currently reported is not the issue Thats like blaming violence on video games or music|0 Very heart wrenching and Im sure echoing a lot of the local sentiment We already know that the local officials didnt do everything they should have Hopefully it will inspire some more serious changes in leadershipI just hope more medical personnel come soon and people dont take out their frustrations on the overworked hospital staff While the health facilities in China are nothing to brag about the issues that he is describing would be present in even the best health system facing such a crisisAnd selfisolation is actually not the horrible idea that he makes it out to be especially for mild cases when the existing clinics are already so burdened Anything to take the stress off the health system so they can focus on the most severe cases Those new hospitals cant be built soon enough|1 HelloCan you give us a breakdown of what parts make up a kit Is there a home collection kit Why is it so tricky to have a kit What is the test process likeAfter reading your WebMD link I notice 1 patient in California who tested negative twice and was released before a weak positive test came backWhat is a weak positiveIs the incubation period 14 days or 28 daysDid China report the true number of deaths Did people die of starvation or dehydration while quarantined|0 Yep this is what I keep saying The government needs to update guidance before larger corporate structures are kicked into motion|1 Its the same here Small business owners downplaying this flu as mass hysteria and serving large volumes of people in enclosed areas|0 The idiots thought by shutting someone up they got stability but now theyve made a big huge ginormous global boo boo How do we event describe the scale|1 Supermarket in nyc and yes we normally get 5 trucks a day But even the warehouses are empty|1 IIRC he strongly emphasized that that CFR was with proper medical care The US is poised to be an absolute shitshow because of the aggressive ignorance of the general population muh freedums no sick leave for workers and the lack of socialized medical care When seeking treatment will make you jobless and bankrupt there is a strong incentive to ignore personal symptomsI think a good argument could be made that outcomes in the US will be more like Iran than China Although its too early to tell and I desperately hope Im tragically wrong I dont see the impact of this being flulike in the US at all|0 Near Denver Durango ia awesome I love the polar express|1 It appears that you are asking or speculating about medical advice We do not support speculation about potentially harmful treatments in this subreddit We cant be responsible for ensuring that people who ask for medical advice receive good accurate information and advice here Thus we will remove posts and comments that ask for or give medical advice The only place to seek medical advice is from a professional healthcare provider|1 could this be an example of normalcy bias|0 Im from Italy Its crazy because I always been the super easy guy in terms of hygiene I never cared to pick and eat something from the ground I always smoked with friends drunk from strangersbeers at the stadiumetcetc everything because I always thought that would help my immune systemBtw now we are quarantined and everytime i go out I wear mask and gloves Go out to lets say bring trash to the can its like 5 minutes away and go back no elevator who knows if there is the virus Open the door remove shoes go remove anything in my pocket onto the kitchen table go back and remove jacket wash my hands a lot sterilize keys and money and phoneActually I dont bring phone outside anymoreU have to do a safe zone and a decompression zone Dont mix them Dont walk with shoes in Dont walk without shoes out Everything that comes in must be sterelizedAnd yes I fucking became mad|1 Thats bad in an IT sense but also kind of sweet|1 That sucks|0 Or because Trump systematically eradicated pandemic response because Obama created it after Swine Flu and Ebola hit the US during his term|0 I appreciate you|1 Lmfao people are taking these pictures seriously God forbid rural Chinese have a sense of humor let alone Redditors|1 Shit is going to hit the fan once testing becomes widely available in the states You cant possibly have the widespread cases we have with near zero testing and believe that its not flying exponentially through the population right now Im going on travel this week and seriously considering just buying a bunch of prepackaged food instead of eating out I can control most of my other contact but prepared food feels like a pretty serious weakness in my ability to control pathogen intake|1 ct scans are more expansive lol|1 Youd be surprised I think People out there have survived cheating where HIV was involved People overcome a whole bunch of things The reality is that the thing that needs repairing is trust If you cant regain trust nothing else matters If you can regain trust Then its a matter of whether or not you can forgive them Relationships are complex nuanced and unique to the couple Marriages can dissolve over incredibly simple things Sometimes people divorce simply because they cant learn to communicate even though its a basic skill we all should have Sometimes they work well except for that communication physically emotionally silently but then they have to talk Marriages can also survive pretty much anything my best friend cheated on her husband four separate times one of which gave him a disease had a child from one of those events and she ran away the week before the marriage When he found everything out she agreed to go to counseling figured herself out and is now in a significantly better place TLDRWe really cant place a limit to what can be resolved Everyone has a limit to what theyll forgive but its wrong to say theres a limit to that overall In fact its possible that they might resolve her indiscretion and he might never be mad at her even if he dies from it People are strange but love is complicated and nuanced Just because someone does something stupid doesnt mean you just dont love them Oftentimes we still love each other we just cant get over the problem Trust is the thing you repair before all else|1 ADVChina did a couple segments on this related issue 1httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvBcyYyyaPz84 2httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvo9eXi3RL8q4 3httpswwwyoutubecomwatchvXopSDJq6w8E about how contractors rapidly build on property but dont maintain consistent quality The buildings theyre talking about are literally falling apart or can be pried apart by hand|1 Yeah lol we have 1 case here in Kathmandu Nepal and a few suspected but the one confirmed was released before the test came back No lab so goes to HongKong and now they cannot find him crap|1 the dude who died in muskoka was only confirmed positive after he died because they refused to test him|0 When he gets out of hospital send the man straight to prison What a jackass|0 2018 Nipah virus outbreak in KeralaThe 2018 Kerala Nipah virus outbreak was an outbreak of the Nipah virus in the state of Kerala India traced to the fruit bats in the area The outbreak was localized in Kozhikode and Malappuram districts of Kerala and claimed 17 lives including that of Mohammed Sabith Ali the first suspected case The outbreak was contained and declared over on 10 June 2018A new case of a 23yearold student was detected again on 4 June 2019 in Kochi PMhttpswwwredditcommessagecomposetokittensfromspace Exclude mehttpsredditcommessagecomposetoWikiTextBotmessageExcludemesubjectExcludeme Exclude from subreddithttpsnpredditcomrChinaFluaboutbanned FAQ InformationhttpsnpredditcomrWikiTextBotwikiindex SourcehttpsgithubcomkittenswolfWikiTextBot Downvote to remove v028|0 Agreed OP should be ashamed|0 Reddit the site promoted this Thats the problem with Reddit in general they let entities like the CCP etc run incredibly important subs to change the narrative etc Im always amazed that they havent been the attention of Government at a time when there is more scrutiny against other corps like Facebook Google Twitter etc|1 Nah fires are out|0 Its comforting in a sad way to know that others are dealing with this My mom is 65 has diabetes hypertension severe asthma and is on immunotherapychemo for chronic lymphocytic leukemia She was retired but my stupid ass got her a job working for the census in January so now she is stuck for 8 hours a day in a stuffy temporary office with shared computers and people who refuse to call out sick She was only supposed to work through March but now theyve got her there until July and she doesnt like confrontation so she wont quit I convinced her not to go to church yesterday after explaining THE CDC SAYS DO NOT GO TO CHURCH IT IS THE WORST PLACE TO GO but that was probably only good for a week My area is just beginning to deal with communityacquired virus as we speak and my mom is living it up at fish fries and going to walmart just to browse Im not sure if she doesnt care or doesnt understand or is scared and playing it off like shes not or what Ive told her that this shit is gonna hit us in a major way very soon and it is possible she wont be able to access medical care and she will almost certainly die without it So now shes being kinda bitchy and telling me that even if she dies I wont so who cares I care Shes my only mom I need her This shit is scary and the uncertainty and loss of control over anything except my own body is really fucking with me Sorry for using your comment as a launching pad for my own issues I just felt like I needed to get this out there because I have no one to talk to about it|0 Frankly our situation should be better than Italys if we continue to see aggressive steps like the ones we are seeing Theres no defending the slow rollout of testing but considering the lack of existing infrastructure for mass public surveillance and the speed at which new infrastructure is being developed I think things have gone about as well as they could have At this point mass testing also has very little relevance as far as guiding our response is concerned We need testing to understand what to do with people exhibiting symptoms and for that reason theres a lot of pressure still to focus on clinically indicated tests Congress is in the process of passing stimulus and response legislation to help the public State governments are taking advantage of disaster relief money and are respondingI say youre doom and gloom because I feel like youre focusing on a few things that have gone wrong and not seeing or accounting for the positive steps that have been taken in the last few days to really reduce the spread and really bring resources to bear You might say its too little too late but I dont think thats really borne out by the data in many cases In most states we have now acted to curtail public life far earlier than Italy did Im not diminishing the fact that many people will die and this will be an extremely dark time in our history but the narrative that somehow we have failed as a nation seems drastic and uncalled for|0 How long are they good for without maintenance ie whats their shelf lifeI was just reading that for the long term iron lungs are actually superior for assisted breathing Theres a worldwide shortage of machines for the polio survivors who still need them I kind of wonder if someone shouldnt start building them|1 Yeah i guess TBH I just skimmed over the vid Just the way the video is done is wrong|0 No and even those going back to work are just spreading the disease But most are not actually back to work Even if the factory is open most workers cant or wont show up|0 That would require the FDA to issue the regulations Which is something a national security council pandemic response team could have foreseen|1 What does that have fuck all to do with patriotism|0 Having to spread my outrage and condemnation of government pretty thin these days This is an exact replica of the bone head moves made in Wuhan worse since in Wuhan there was no Wuhan to point to|0 That depends on your definition of screwed From a loss of life standpoint Or from an economic standpoint|0 check this out this was posted here just two days ago Pakistan provides 315000 effective tablets overnight to treat COVID19 in ChinahttpswwwredditcomrChinaFlucommentsf8a1hipakistanprovides315000effectivetablets|1 Northern Virginia hospital telling patients that if they have the flu they cant have covid19httpsimgurcoma4sFLLElHospitals need to be sued for blatant lying just say you dont have any test kits|0 Looks like mexico just pulled a reverse uno card on trump|1 Anyone who thinks are over reacting either wont be here in another 23 months sooner me thinks or will be trying to find what he didnt prepare for Maybe at your house Im almost thinking that they know that this is uncontrollable so instead of causing a civil and societal meltdown they just tell usN95 masks do and then dont work a couple of ships China this and Vietnam that 3 new cases in BFE all the crap we are hearing now to pass the time as this invisible viral fire quietly rages through and around us all|0 So true My husband is an extrovert I am an introvert This virus is definitely stressing our relationship|1 Yeah its good to see these stories to remind ourselves that we are all in this together and we need to show empathy to those that are suffering even if the event is not affecting our daily routine right now|1 This and I think a lot of people just have no idea how much they use Its cheap and often purchased in bulk so starting a new roll doesnt stand out|0 Lmao|1 It doesnt get better because culturally graft swindling and economic deception are expected accepted and even celebrated I know this sounds like a harsh statement but it is true|1 Yes I have thought this too and in the US all the aging boomers are going to bankrupt social security It will also probably take care of the homeless problem and drug users Win win for the gov|1 I know right you can wash your ass but toilet paper aint nutritious|0 This is also true for people who would otherwise want to take off schoolwork before getting infectedsick The US system is not amenable to that people will lose jobs and have grades plummet and instead of taking precautions theyll just assume it wont infect them and continue with life as usualThis is how we die |0 Have to say I love how pasta has the power to unite people even on a sub dedicated to a horrible pandemic Id cook for all of you if I could |1 I meant what chemicals are in Dawn specifically that make it better than other liquid detergents|1 But if you only have a day or two worth of supplies what other option do you have|1 I was thinking of an Amazon warehouse Express sameday shipping of Coronavirus|1 We cancelled our vacation over it and we also cancelled some business travel over it Pretty much bugged in most of the time for the last three weeks|1 i want this basketball thing to become the new metaphor|1 How are they supposed to handle a virus which nobody has any immunity to and no vaccine exists You want to criticize somebody Criticize China for probably allowing it to escape the Wuhan lab in the first place and then go on to commit crimes against humanity against the victims to control the spread|0 We get more meds from India than China if I remember correctly However India also gets the bulk of its ingredients from China Currently the Chinese produce 80 of the materials globally but only supply about 20 of the finished product that the US receivesOf what they do supply there are a number of drugs that are exclusively manufactured in China and not anywhere else in the worldThe US is very dependent on outside suppliers for medicine If nothing else I suspect that we will find ways to improve domestic production and reduce foreign dependencies in a number of areas as a result of this situation|1 i think the CDC is pretty much predicting the same thing if 80 of people have mild symptoms dont stir up any panic serious cases of pneumonia will make their way to the hospital regardless of whether its a complication of COVID or any other infection but you can tell just from reading reddit that people seem to be very frightened and are ready to react hysterically to every new case what we did here was at least buy ourselves another 68 weeks of time before the inevitable panic sets in i dont think the CDC was ever lying their approach was conservative as was necessary at the time people just have a poor understanding of our healthcare system and why they cant just announce a pandemic and test every cold patient for COVID|0 Wow its as though you completely stopped reading my comment after the seventh word impressive|1 This is dumb The dude was literally breathing onto the microphone for the interview Him touching the microphones would have had nowhere near the effect of him breathing directly on it He made a lighthearted joke to the media about the Coronavirus restrictions just like Im sure most of us do with our friends Its just a terrible coincidence that he happened to get the virus|1 Meh you win some you lose some Might as well convert your Bitcoin to alt coins and Gamble on some lottery tickets Or sell and put it in the stock market|1 China has figured out how to stop the virus All you have to do is weld people into their apartments and dont let anyone leave their house for any reason Put anyone who has the virus into a death camp isolation cell just call it a hospital Dont let anyone go back to work or else the virus will just start spreading again Good luck every other country in trying to do this|0 Hes super religious maybe just realizing hes got some explaining to do if he meets Jesus anytime soon|1 Fun fact in November I had to administer a questionnaire about physical activity habits to old people in Italy for a research project Old was defined as over 65 and some of our participants were like 8085 as wellI was doing it with four other colleagues and it became very clear very soon that like 70 of the people we asked to participate would get massively offended at being called old or elderly this word was in the title of the questionnaire and many would tell us to go fuck ourselves upon seeing the title|1 one thing is certain theres a lot of misinformation out there you may be right For example I also found an article on rt about a 15 minute test but i cant even post it here as the bot finds rt unreliable works for mex200BI think the bio link it more accurate than the rt link but truly I dont know|1 over the epidemiologists he fired two years agoFauci knows what hes doing no|0 you cant blame yourself for that when you made that decision it was still very profitable and a smart choice nobody could have predicted that something like this was going to happen|1 Great update once again on behalf of everyone who checks rworldnews and rcoronavirus just for your delta update thank you|1 No cheek kissing no more |1 No|0 Theres absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation its good for our immune systems and it is in no way requires pornography|1 Vulnerable young person here Im limiting my social contact and hand washing like crazy Im lucky that I can work from home because if I get a fever that paracetamol doesnt bring down I need to go the AE in case I go into cardiac arrest Feels like were collateral damage were the type of people being gambled with hereI understand the logic re heard immunity and stopping this thing coming back when restrictions are limited but its uncomfortable being one of the people put at risk by that strategy|0 Thank you for posting to rCanadaCoronavirus Please read our ruleshttpswwwredditcomrcanadacoronavirusaboutrulesPlease remember that all posts and comments should reflect factual truthbased discussion The purpose of this subreddit is to share trustworthy resources and ensure Canadians are as informed and educated as possibleWe will not tolerate racism sexism or harassment of any kind Any comments or posts made contrary to these values will be subject to review by the Mod teamI am a bot and this action was performed automatically Please contact the moderators of this subredditmessagecomposetorCanadaCoronavirus if you have any questions or concerns|1 Its absolutely ridiculous that NYC hasnt closed school yet and it honestly makes me angry to think about Teachers are not invulnerable babysitters whose purpose in life is to provide childcare while parents work They have lives and loved ones of their own and many of them are at an age where they are susceptible to this disease Also the kids are no doubt carriers who can transmit it to friends who will give it to their families and then the vicious cycle continues Closing schools helps curb the spreading|0 Show them that the median in Lombardy if deceased is about 63 Which means that the amount of people over 63 dead are the same number as the people dead under 63|0 Oh shit Oh oh Its just the flu The silly old flu And to think I was worried Lol Only 36 thousand Americans will die Hehe Ahh Where was I Oh yeah You see people The coronavirus is a nothingburger Or how about you know we take both very seriously|0 Yes its the only way they can speak out|1 Safe to assume they are standing for a fair amount of time so blood pooling to lower extremities could definitely cause an individual to faint especially if heshe is under stress or dehydrated Happens at weddings sometimes during long ceremonies|1 Well then I fall back on the three years of preserved food and hydroponic gardens|1 Many of these do include gyms just saying everything it includes takes too long to write out when sending the news out ASAP is the priorityThe Seattle closure includes gyms with restaurants and a few other things plus no gathering of 50|0 Lets run a Chinese food festival like Canada WASTES MONEY|1 Yeah this is a nice gesture from them Could you also post this on rCoronavirusSupport where we collect all small and big stories like this|1 Considering the criminally insane policy on COVID19 by the US administration it is shocking to me that Canada has not already closed its borders Truedau should be questioned about whether he is paying attention to the fiasco thats taking place south of the border|0 BuT oUr ProFiTs|1 Isnt a great feeling knowing that if the worse happens your ready to ride it out Its the opposite of panic Im calm mad at the government and the lack of testing but Im not worried about anything|0 Glad to see they are still only testing people with a fever sWhen they say they have tested 100k people I wonder if they mean they have checked their temperatures at the drive thru testing sites|1 Their leadership is so crazy that they will find a way to exploit this|0 If China handled it effectively this wouldnt be an issue right now You are wrong|0 5779 new tests down from 6337 yesterday676 new confirmed cases An increase of 347 which is above average for the UKAlmost exactly the same growth as USA Spain and Italy when they were at a similar level Below Germany and Frances growth rate at this point883 negative rate 8 out of every 9 people tested didnt have it A bit worse than yesterday all round|0 I agreebut a few is underestimated Theres ppl that check mail like clockwork time|1 Thats fucking ridiculous Im sorry The punishment does not fit the crime This isnt drunk driving or anything this is something you cant control Especially because that quarantine allows you to still go and get the basic necessities so you can still infect someone doing what you need to Not everyone even knows theyre infected As ideal as it might be you cant just halt life Not everyone can do that 5 years jail time is ridiculous for a virus of this caliber|0 We have a union and the VA walks all over it They are useless and powerless The only thing they are good for is the master agreement that gives us our rights and benefits|1 You shouldve prepped for those snow storms You didnt and you made it out okay but you should have You absolutely would have been safer and at less risk if you did but you didnt A lot of people arent adequately prepared for retirement A lot of people smoke A lot of people dont wear their seatbeltGetting upset because everybody isnt handling the situation in an a way that optimizes the positive outcome and minimizes risk is not only unrealistic its nonsensical|1 The NBA has suspended its season|0 Have any of your students gotten sick Are any of them under quarantine|0 Exactly anyway god be with you all I hope your healthcare system will not fail you stay safe and clean|1 I work for Allstate and not a single person I work with even and especially the agency owner are taking this seriously The idea of working remotely has not even been hinted at This outbreak will be caused by an admixture of hubris greed and incompetence|0 No its not Please dont spread fear and misinformation They have the protocols in place to safely pick up and transport the patient and take them to isolation at the hospital|0 I know What we really need is for people to start listening to knowledgeable experts and trusted media outlets Granted without getting into politics its that second part that is a tall ask Many people distrust and ignore the mainstream media because of transparent media bias and subterfuge That dynamic will have impact that translates to human lives|1 I saw so many photos on FB of people in PACKED bars on Saturday Lord help us all|1 This is exactly how the logs in Resident Evil started|0 Plus it makes the blood more vicious and increases clotting|0 problem is if u spread it the person you might give it too might not recover That is the major issue|0 While the Coronavirus is an alarming international health crisis with the potential to cause a lot more damage than it already has its also not the only illness in the world Its got a high infection rate but just by the numbers the vast majority of illness floating around still isnt the coronavirus The Pope is a really old guy whos missing a lung so hes probably reasonably vulnerable to any number of ailments not just highly infectious viruses I dont know why it would be seen as unlikely that he really does just have a common cold Is it possible that its the coronavirus Sure Is it probable Well more probable than if the Pope lived in say Norway but On the whole Im thinking its still very believable that its something unrelated|1 This is a great way of putting it |1 I actually wonder what happens if someone gets symptoms Do they check hisher interaction history and focus on those people or actually extend the quarantine for everyone|1 Well obviously if you are rich then US has the best health care for youBut you need to be rich rich Not i can buy some bling rich but my maid drives a tesla rich|1 You should NOT be wearing a mask unless you have symptoms It actually makes you more vulnerable because youre much more likely to touch your face more frequently to adjust remove or attach the mask Hospitals need them not you The amount of misinformation people are spreading sucksEdit My information comes from my wife that is a doctor working in a hospital This is the information being disseminated there If its changed does anyone have a reputable source Otherwise Ill take information from someone in the trenches instead of I heard|0 Oh man I GOTTA hear this Screw Jones|0 Maybe notmaybe you trust too much in media If there are memes mocking its just a flu thing is because ppl are saying it About the racism against asians its just an example of what media outlets were worried about before the virus spread in Europe|0 Welcome to the world|1 The United States closed its borders to Chinese citizens in January the WHO called it an irresponsible overreaction|0 Fauci is director of NIAID within the NIH He cannot be fired by the president Its an internally selected position Hes been director since the AIDS epidemic in the 80s Hes walking a tightrope because he needs Trump and company to cooperate And Trump needs to cooperate with him too because hes just as important as the director of all of NIH The president only appoints the director of NIH who is Francis Collins And hes an awesome guy anyway Was appointed by Obama|1 Completely untrue I went to the ER Saturday morning in NJ asking for a test presenting with symptoms Nope not authorized to test me because the CDC said so and they didnt even have the tests on hand if they were able to|1 Its in Australia and its warmer there|1 Anyone over 50 should definitely be tested|1 Its what you get for not being around long enough for war to mess up your schedule|0 Can you also send me the name of the sub Thanks|1 Facemasks for the win|1 From an infected medical worker|0 This looks like a copy of the original httpsyoutubetJ1OSg2hw8|1 Our hearts go out to you I think keeping up your spirits with music and loving each other is the best medicine you can have right now|1 Where do you live I havent seen a single mask here in Europe yet Are they a thing in the US now or are you from a more heabily affected country|0 Youre not wrong Walter Youre just an asshole|1 Now the region can breathe the clean air just in time for it to be filled with virons|1 Some factory workers will be dead and not likely to be returning to work China might have a worker shortage for awhile New hires will need to be trained|0 This just in Covid spreads like a mother fucker Heres tom with the weather|0 How is that argument even possible|0 If you think were acting like China NOW give it a few months It might get really fucky soon|1 Thats is one cute kid He managed to color in the ducks feet pretty well|1 lollery I wonder how much it pays to spout bullshit|0 There was a false information floating around about trump cutting the budget he didnt congress did not let him or about him firing the team to deal with it he didnt he moved the team to another deparment|0 I have 3 friends who went to the doctor in nyc last week with all the symptoms They were told there were no kits available then told they very likely have covid19 and should quarantine at home for 14 days The numbers are much worse we just cant see them because kits arent available Shit is scary and many jobs are still refusing to let people work from home Universities just started closing down last week People are still going out and doing things with groups of people|0 I cant imagine being a health care professional and having to triage patients How do you make that decision Age survivability importance|1 Because the disease is aerosolized one of the recommendations is that people stay at least 6 feet away from each other Spaces where people are often packed in close together in large numbers are not good choices when youre trying to avoid an airborne disease|0 Thanks for finding this I saw it earlier and could not find it again|1 F Your a sanitation worker and someone has to clean and clear the infected waste and take it to the garbage burner|0 I love some gardening What area are you in|1 Why bottled water though we expecting mad max|0 I would like to know how many oxygen concentrators there are Those dont require training right Are there enough to hook up 1 or 2 percent of the population|1 Out at the Richmond CA Costco it was the same deal I was the only one buying mainly nonperishable goods once we a public cluster of infected thatll change fast though|0 Switzerland has started going to war Large raft of school closures plus all their football long cancelled unlike France|0 A misleading titleJudging by his physique hes not otherwise healthy but obese Obesity leads to multiple complications which greatly deteriorate the situation But yeah he might be considered healthy by the standard of todays average American See He doesnt have type II diabetes What a singular accomplishment compared with other Americans 70 overweight and 35 obese Just lol|0 My aunt is doing ok Her tests come out positive but she has no more symptoms My uncle is not doing well His fever broke for a day then came back Hes quite weak His breathing is not ok and his lungs look bad in the CT scans|0 My friend sold his drop shipping business recently due to not getting supplies from his supplier in China|1 Did you fly back home What was boarding gate like Any type of health checkDid your gov tell you to self isolateJust wondering|1 Plus it was much easier to identify someone suffering from SARS 1 and SARS wasnt transmissible before showing symptoms|0 Its a form of Pneumonia I thought The Chinese call it Pneumonia Our stupidly is rationalizing it as the flu because in the 1st world thats the worst we have faced|0 Horse shit China is in full blown propaganda mode Theyve said the US planted the virus then they threatened to stop supply chains They have been hostile pieces of shithttpswwwthetimescoukarticlechinesescientistsdestroyedproofofvirusindecemberrz055qjnj|0 1 Covid19 wasnt even on the map for healthcare providers to be worried when I came in for evaluation 2 Simple bleach water mix in a spray bottle and paper towels Once a day clear all touch points and once a week a deep clean of the home take trash out once a day|1 CEO salary from 2013 is not that relevant a comparison More relevanthttpswwwmacrotrendsnetstockschartsYUMyumbrandsgrossprofit Yum Brands gross profit for the quarter ending December 31 2019 was 1309B a 1074 increase yearoveryear Thats for just one quarter I think they can spare to pay their workers paid leave|1 The part that worries me is if theyll go back to work ASAP or if theyll wait it out with a long quarantine to make sure wave two doesnt happenThats the most important part Doesnt mean anything if thousands of people start spreading it again|1 Im afraid not He apparently is the top Communist Party official in the hospital itself This seems like an attempt to get more support from the government rather than criticise the party itself but it is a good start in bringing change|1 Yes you are high risk Also PLEASE BE EXTRA CAREFUL your blue inhalers are anti inflammatory which means if you end up with CV19 your in doubly a bad situation Theres information going round that taking anti inflammatory painkillers for example to tackle the symptoms makes the situation worse I assume this is the same for your blue inhalers|0 Thats what we germans call a Feuertaufe Baptism of fire x200BGodspeed my friend and you will rise to the occasion|1 My school made a teacher come in today who self isolated just yesterday|0 Im not going to say yes or no but these are preliminary reports and havent been peer reviewed confirmed so please take this with a grain of salt Doesnt hurt to have it in the back of your mind though|1 It was really pathetic|0 I like Elon musk but man stick to rockets and cars|1 It is good as a preventative measure but all the businesses affected by it make it less feasible or a hesitant option You have teachers everyone employed by the airports everyone employed by the large gathering industry I am expected to pay bills and rent|0 Business wont thrive if their customers die|0 This is a point the WHO made This is the first pandemic that can be controlled and wiped out but because of human nature it is spreading and worsening China is a perfect example of eradicating the virus if you put in the proper measures Its tough to do but if the entire world did this yes it would be gone Only problem is the entire population isnt following what our governments are recommending Not everywhere is China not everywhere can literally force you in your house to stay|1 Even if that 19 is 10 its still mind boggling highly dangerous for a virus this contagiousIf this thing spreads like Ebola no one would bat an eye|0 Well same in usa since there is no test people died of covid19 might as well count towards fluI am starting to wonder how long has virus been spreading on usa soil|0 I think yesterdays numbers were high because some of the previous days numbers had been delayed|0 I feel your pain Right now hopefully your son will pull through You also need to quarantine him in the home so he doesnt spread the virus A few weeks ago an Iranian girl posted about the family that had been really sick and at that time they didnt know the virus was circulating In the end they lay in the loungeroom and kept an eye on each other and grandma brought food and left it at the door Remember the test isnt the answer Treatment is but they dont want to use up a bed too soon for someone who might get through it without support Best to look after your son To quarantine your son at home he needs to be in his room with the door shut Food should be left at the door and he collects it Can you get disposable plates and cutlery All rubbish double wrapped He should use his own towel and it should be washed every 2 days He should use the bathroom after others Remember that soap and water is effective at killing the virus You need to look after yourself as well Do you have an ox meter If it gets below 93 saturation then he will need to be at the hospital|0 The user who does that couldnt make it yesterday I think hell do it it today When he does well pin it|0 I wasnt that serious tbh|1 Ouch Hope they are ok that sounds a bit risky|1 Same its horrible Hope it gets better|1 I live in Mississippi Like it wont go well here|1 Maybe if people started preparing 3 weeks ago when the CDC told them to rather than making jokes they wouldnt be scrambling|1 China are down to single figure cases Its also starting to trail off in South Korea This is showing that after an initial spike of maybe 2 months with sensible containment measures it may only hit a fraction of the population We all know its probably affected a lot more than 80000 people in China But this only massively dilutes the death rate so thats a good thing Either it will burn out fast and only impact 1 of people Or its so mild for some that they never even get to need testing so the fatality rate could end up really really tiny|0 How is it not a good answerwith all the travel bans against China and the quarantines the chance of someone having covid19 at this gathering is highly unlikely Chill with your fear mongering bucko|0 You also have to remember that in Italy they kiss each other hi and goodbye Some other countries with low numbers especially dont Thats one reason it spread faster in Italy Add that to ignoring advice shortage of medical beds and suppliesyou have yourself the perfect storm|1 I wont comment on Trump but I think Trudeau is an AOK guy He will do the right thing|1 x200BYes that is what most rational people would think but there are going to be panicked New Yorkers that want an immediate answer who will flood the urgent careER Maybe they should cover home testing instead and not encourage people to flood an already strained medical system He may have had good intentions here but|0 Keeping his memory alive is important because the Chinese Communist Party are already trying to pin blame on other countries Calling it Italian flu seriously what and even blaming the US for starting it We know what happened and they dont get to control the narrative|0 Very interesting its the macro economic shifts that we have to follow|1 Containment zone is a terrible word for whats actually happening Its more of a restrict large gatherings while we clean up zone Theyre going to shut down schools and large gatherings while the National Guard sanitizes the schools and presumably other large gathering places churches hotels etcContainment is just a terrible name for it|0 But we were assured by no less an authority than the President of the United States that after his very brave and bold actions actually there are basically no cases and its totally under control s|1 I avoid talking with anyone on facebook outside of my friends list If its a controversial subject they arent people that are open to changing their minds on it at all they are just killing time on facebook and bizzarely even though their names are linked they dont mind being horribly abusive to anyone that slightly annoys them or disagreesIts like a newspaper comments section most of the time Ignorance and anger|0 Only if it mutates significantly which is quite unlikely think seasonal influenza type mutations Once one has had the virus they create some special cells T lymphocytes which will remember that certain antigen If the body comes in contact with the antigen again the immune response will be quicker and beat the virus before it has a chance to replicate inside their body|1 Good looks|1 If they shut parliament to protect politicians whilst leaving schoolsuniversities open and still allowing mass gatheringsIts time to ignore what politicians advise and look after ourselves because they fucking well wont|1 Okay it will ruin the oleophobic coating on your glass screen protector and case|0 Maybe Trudeau will meet them at the airport with hugs Its the humane thing to do|1 I am more concerned about this part in the articleOver the past month on the front lines of the coronavirus battle Dr Peng has been brought to tears many times when forced to turn away patients for lack of staffing and beds He said what really got to him though was the death of an acutely ill pregnant woman when treatment stopped for lack of money the day before the government decided to pick up the costs of all coronavirus treatments Seriously wtf|0 The only reason my family business is still open is because our landlord has explicitly said that this is all being way overblown and we are responsible for rent as usual even if we have to close Were all terrified to go to work because we have contact with hundreds of people a day Were also terrified that this is going to put us out of business permanently We have such high rent that we wont be able to weather more than a month of this Im sure there are thousands of other small businesses facing the same issue|0 Bullshit to generate clicksWhile much is still unknown about the virus the group of Australian experts has produced a warning about the impact the virus might have on peoples lives if left unchecked|0 What about pregnant women there is very limited information about it expect that we need to take be careful and they are in high risk group|0 News channels in the US dont exist to bring honest factual news but to make money They will bring whatever attracts the most eyes to their channel and brings in the most add revenue|1 POSTERS NOTE Always take random Facebook posts with a grain of salt BUT as a social media manager for the past 15 years heres some things that stick out to me This account was created in 2007 which is not entirely impossible to fake but pretty difficult This person also appears to have posted consistently that whole time Lastly fwiw this came across my feed declaring this woman as a friend of a friend Ive known for years|1 So did US patient 1 He didnt make anyone sick that we know of|1 thanks for using the word if goose|1 great piece I was hoping he was going to give an opinion as to which strain of Covid we are seeing in Wshington I was just reading that a strain has gotten weaker as it has mutated from the original|1 We got this man So glad to hear it|1 Its a horrible mentality But on top of that its also short sightedThe hospitals in Italy already cant cope with the inflow of sick patients This wont improve your chances of you come in with an unrelated issue eg traffic accident and require urgent care|0 Walls cant stop planes But tall buildings can |1 I agree That kind of attitude towards others is another type of epidemic When did insulting people become so normalized|0 Find an article talking about it The idea of the government limiting access to medical care is very important that both sidesWhy is it important to themAccording the first result from Google httpswwwinvestopediacominvestingwhichindustryspendsmostlobbyingantmso Hospitals Nursing Homes 1604696566 This category includes all healthcare institutions hospitals nursing homes hospice providers and drug and alcohol inpatient centers Lobbying in this industry was especially active in 2009 and again in 2017 with legislative actions involving health care and the Affordable Care Act At present lobbyist efforts in the sector are generally focused on cost management insurance allocations spending on employee training prevention of physician pay reductions and costs associated with Medicaid and Medicare The leading spender in 2018 is the American Hospital Association with 114 million lobbyist efforts in the sector are generally focused on cost managementThis isnt pharma which has its own category with a higher number So does insuranceMost healthcare lobbying is about being sure healthcare costs remain high and its disgusting|1 Yeah even though my anxiety is through the roof Im happy that Ive managed to not let it affect my actions So far Ive only bought the appropriate necessities|1 Yep in the UK theyre only testing people admitted to hospital so cases are likely in tens of thousands by now|1 First sourceSecond failure how Do the tests just error out and need redone or do they give false positives or false negatives or both The answer to this matters because it would affect the nature of the usefulness of the tests in questionThird some data even with a relatively high margin for error is still better than extremely little data due to sheer lack of testingFourth a margin of error is reducible by performing multiple tests which is what the US governments tests require anyway because they also have a high enough margin for error to require it|0 uhh Im a student at the UW and students are taking it very seriously Most of our finals scheduled for the week of the 16th are canceled do you have any idea how hard it is to get a professor to give up an exam And even before the administration stopped all inperson classes about 13rd of the students who were regularly showing up most of the quarter started skipping classes|0 I wouldnt be surprised if there was a mass exodus of medical personnel in the very near future|0 Same but I live in LA Dont know a single person who even has a pantry Most ppl have maybe 23 days worth of left overs or microwaveable food in the fridge I havent actually cooked a meal from scratch in probably 15 years lol Gonna be a wild ride|1 I am in social care as a student all my visits and meetings have been cancelled nothing for us to do yet the council and unis still want everyone in|1 Nope In the third world unless you have money the best you can hope for is a bed to die on while your family brings you your meals The Republicans are trying to gives us a 3rd world medical system|1 Are they allowed to fly again within the US after arriving at the funneled airports How would someone return home to like Texas or Colorado from those places|1 Better bankrupt than dead|0 But dont test dont tell is not the policy and never was Even this blog admits the CDC ordered the patient to be tested a few days after admission and obviously everyone was told about it when the results became available Under the current PUI guidelines the test would be ordered the same day|1 Thats some dark shit|0 theres several ramifications from hiding this shit The two off the top of my head is 1 medical staff get hit harder than they should 2 being disillusioned to the illusion of someone knows whats going on and how to best server 350ish million people|0 Lol Im a casual reader so I cant really comment on this but I just cant imagine working 10 years to get a PhD and MD only to get tested by casual readers on Reddit who comb the Internet all day and all of a sudden think they have equal knowledge in their field|1 How do people get sold on the idea that that map even makes any sense The US as a threat to world peace Really now An accurate map today would likely put China as the biggest threat or at least it should Back in the day it was Russia but Russia hasnt been as dangerous as China in decades|1 sorry supply and demand|0 Big if true Keyword if|1 They covered up this thing for two months Ffs a healthy amount of disdain is completely warranted|0 I cant imagine having so much hate for someone that one would make up stories like this All of the Chinese Wuhan Flu subs here are the same now Its all political and devolves into arguing|0 Its like saying a burned down house has flame immunity|1 Because hes freaking out he cant find enough for his own family|0 This whole episode shows how silly the US healthcare system isWho should pay for the test Why|0 And people dont get in a car crash then walk around for 2 weeks getting other people in car crashes before noticing|0 Happy cake day stranger|1 Based on what Because you saw like 3 articles of crazy people doing routine shit during a pandemic Practically everything is shut down across the United States Drastic actions have already been taken|0 Hell I am working in China and I feel safer than I would at home in Northern Ireland|0 Never thought I would see the day where China would turn out being more honest and do a vastly better job of protecting their citizens USA has really fallen down|1 Thanks |1 for some 100 million more theyll rename the Chinese wuhan flu into something like Italian flu|0 College kids dont need caretakers Close school and some adults dont work jobs dont get done and things get a little bit worseIts a terrible catch 22|0 Thank you for the kind wordsI wish you the best out there as well|1 Doesnt help that our current leader cut their funding a while back|0 Please pass them to my pms if you got them theres no way theirs actually footage of this right this is to gold to be true|1 Because its easier to fear monger for dat sweet karma|1 Yeah the headline implies we have a testing system This might be technically true in the way that saying Americans own private jets is technically true|1 Yeah but the info that we should see here is how deadly is the virus when a exsmoking multimillionaire with access to some of the best doctors in the world is infected|1 Im a Utahn Most people are cool But were hella prepared Loads of people have up to a year of food storage My in laws have an entire year of supplies in their basement storage Water Food Etc They use the food as a pantry and are constantly refilling it They have a system that say you use a can of corn you place the newly purchased corn in the back Pretty simple|1 They said matt gaetz was free of coronavirus really fast but not trump|1 Ive been monitoring news and checking the Johns Hopkins ArcGIS dashboard daily but it isnt the first thing I do when I wake up Im an exchange student in Europe and will be traveling to London and Paris over spring break Im really not that concerned about contracting coronavirus as I have no risk factors that would increase likelihood of death However theres a real possibility that Ill need to change my travel plans andor that I can get sent back home by my university if it gets really bad in the country Im in|0 It seemed like he was really close in the documentary before either Fukushima or Trump I dont remember which I like his rationale like in the richest most well connected guy and Im pretty smart how much good can I do|1 This is crazy its way too infectious I live in Canada and were using httpscoronaviruscrdcohttpscoronaviruscrdco to keep a track of new outbreaks I think it works for other places too|0 The victims are the people who lost their jobs to the chinese whose government was so brutal in their undermining of the western work force that they managed to secure 90 of manufacturing IP theft mandatory chinese ownership no labor or environmental protections government help to absurd levels to keep everything in china This was a tragedy for the west long before COVID This is just the wheels falling off|0 Hahaha well played|1 Thank you |1 I know this sounds terrible|0 I dont mean to make this political and the state of healthcare is abhorrent for our country but that sounds like an argument against socialized healthcare|0 Thats definitely not just a few extra pounds at least judging from that photo Could be a bad angle or edema but who knows Obesity is worse than smoking drinking and povertyhttpswwwrandorgpubsresearchbriefsRB4549html in terms of risk of chronic illness and other medical consequences|0 I heard someone call it xeroxing Each copy is poorer than the last as it repeatedly replicates|0 Yeah this sub was great before it become US non stories|1